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Title: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on March 12, 2005, 09:24:24 AM
One thing I want to add, if I didn't make a point to examine who started for Potsdam I would have no idea whether the starters were in the game the rest of the way.  Made no difference.  They lost nothing.  That is a very good team.  Too bad Fisher didn't give them their best effort.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: xoverj on March 12, 2005, 10:06:11 AM
When I saw potsdam play in January, I knew that they were good......but they weren't really a great team at that point.  The fact that all of those guys are playing together on the same page is scary.  I agree with BasketballMike, there is no doubt that the SUNYAC prepares a team for the postseason, every game in the SUNYAC brings a postseason environment.  Especially the long road trips and the constant upsets.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 12, 2005, 10:21:23 AM
Kudos, kudos, kudos to Potsdam!! Exceptionally well done. Carry on.
Just recently dug ourselves from snowbanks upon reentering NY from FLA.
We know CStaters are pulling the Bears way, especially after RDragons had Pdam on the ropes in north country and then won at home. Guess that's a way of saying TSpan & Co. had a pretty fair season themselves. Will look even better should Coach Dobbs and Potsdamers extend this thing ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: wherestheenergy on March 12, 2005, 12:24:54 PM
where's bulb?......hmm...*tumble weed*...*cricket*
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bigdaddy on March 12, 2005, 12:59:30 PM
So....I predicted Potsdam by 5....and I was wrong...they won by 24. Potsdam won the rebounding as advertised.  

Potsdam was all we said they were. To be honest...Fisher is a really great team...I felt like they needed to have seen a lot more game tape of Potsdam than they apparently had the oppourtunity to.  

As for the Amherst facility...I was very disappointed. It was not big enough. Didnt have enough parking. Didnt have walkways to parking(walk in the road) and Amherst did not even have a refreshment booth. Their vending was empty by half time of the Rochester game. Couldnt buy a water.  

This game should have been held at Rochester or Potsdam. Amherst facility is junk.  

I am on my way back on the road to see tonights game.  

Prediction...even rebounding....UR Center wont have a great night. Hauben will be held to 13 pts. Potsdam will win by 14.  

I was not impressed by the AMherst team last night. It was Schiel...who was awesome....and beyond that...they werent that good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: portgrad2004 on March 12, 2005, 01:00:27 PM
UR2004,

Yeah, that was a great game even with the outcome.  All I remember about that game though was trying to walk back to my dorm during the storm in the wind tunnel that we call Brockport...Almost got blown over a couple times...

Can't lose with tonight's matchup, either a team from the SUNYAC, or a team from the Rochester Area...good luck to both.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bigdaddy on March 12, 2005, 01:01:43 PM
I called for Potsdam in the pick'em
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: not josh reed on March 12, 2005, 08:50:49 PM
So any one here a score yet?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ur2004 on March 12, 2005, 09:02:20 PM
Rochester 67, Potsdam 51.

UR led by 2 then ended the game on a huge run...

would have been even more of a blowout if UR actually hit its free throws, but they shot something like 57% from the floor

Rebounding was even...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thealmascots on March 12, 2005, 11:39:56 PM
It's a rematch of the 1992 Championship game on Friday night - Rochester and Calvin.  It was Chris Fite against Steve Honderd in that one and Honderd and the Knights took home the hardware.  What's the predictions for this one?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on March 13, 2005, 01:03:52 AM
Ugh, just got home from Amherst.  First of all, congrats to U of R, I hope you win it all.  

I was really looking forward to a very intense physical game inside, to see how the two 6'7"'s Harris and Turner would match up against Hauben and Onyiriuka.  I thought their interior defense would be the key to the game.  Four seconds into the game, the ref called a ticky-tack foul on Turner, and another with minimal contact less than two minutes later.  Neither were obvious, nor were they charge/block decisions.  Turner then sat the next eighteen minutes of the half.  Anyone familiar with Rochester knows how they love to pound it inside and play physical, and immediately the game was altered.

Potsdam couldn't buy a bucket, shooting 31% in the first half.  It was the exact opposite of the Fisher game.  Still, despite the big guy on the bench, and playing a bad half offensively, they were down three at the break.  

Rochester shot 70% from the field in the second half.  Still , the Bears were within two with 3 and a half minutes to go. You have to hand it to U of R.  Every time the Bears needed that crucial stop, Rochester knocked down the jumpers.

Obviously, I'm biased, but I just hate to see referees take the game out of the hands of the players, especially knowing what type of game it would be.

To all the Bears, thanks for a great run.

Maybe I'm just extra mad because I had Potsdam, York, and Stevens Point in the final four in my bracket.  

I'd love to hear other impressions of those who were at the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 13, 2005, 07:31:59 AM
Potsdam had a great run.  They beat themselves last night by not hitting the open jumpers.  UR played a 2/3 defense and said shoot over it but Potsdam couldn't buy a shot. Coach Doobs thanks for bringing back quality basketball to Potsdam/Maxcy.  UR good luck.

FYI the final four top 25 rackings 1,14,19,21
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen jones on March 13, 2005, 09:06:45 AM
Rats! Too bad it ends just short of the final four, but Bearnation is right on the money - quality basketball is back at Potsdam. It was a great year.  

Here's a scary set of facts about the WIAC. Early in the season UW-Superior gets on the bus for a tournament in Rochester, where they defeat the hosts, U of R, 72-67. Superior is considered one of the weaker teams in the WIAC. Superior's WIAC Conference record is 5-11. They were overwhelmed by Stevens Point, 77-42 at home, 83-58 at Stevens Point, and 88-68 in the conference tournament. Good luck to U of R.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ur2004 on March 13, 2005, 09:39:28 AM
owen, that's true, however UR was playing that game without Gabe Perez, their starting PG and last night's leading scorer (16 pts) = but it still does go to show that the WIAC is pretty competitive.  I'm rooting hard for York :-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: boobyhasgameyo on March 13, 2005, 10:17:54 AM
Plus you can't really compare scores of different games like that.  Any team can win on any day.  I see your point about the conference believe me I do, but if you follow that kind of logic then......

U of R earlier in the year lost to R.I.T. by about 8 points I believe, a team Fisher beat four times including a final score of 92-51 in the E8 championship game.  And Fisher in turn lost to Potsdam by 24.  That means Potsdam should have won the U of R game by about 73 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 13, 2005, 05:48:54 PM
Unbearable and Pdam crew:
Quite the season for you guys. It all starts with classy S. Dobbs. We heard nothing but good things when he came aboard. No doubt he gets the best from his charges, and they go to the wall for him!
And speaking of class .....a rousing hip hip hooray for Bears' top lieutenant Stan Cohen. A Cortland native by the way who goes back to the J. Welsh heyday. Stan's in his 31st year at Potsdam after piloting Canton Tech
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen jones on March 14, 2005, 07:17:45 AM
OK, I'm picking Potsdam over U of R by 73. I'm sticking with my logic!!

Oh wait, the game's over? Whew! Someone could have made some money from me! I see your point and it's a good one.

I know the old "x beat y, and y beat z, thus, x must beat y" logic isn't very good logic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on March 14, 2005, 08:47:03 AM
Finally back to my PC after a great long weekend of college and highschool hoops.  I didn't stay on Saturday for the Potsdam/UR game, but the result officially proves that I know nothing about basketball.  I couldn't have been more wrong in my predictions for that bracket.

Congrats to Potsdam on a nice run.  Am I correctly assuming that UR played zone and forced Potsdam to hit jumpers?  I remember Friday night game thinking "wow, if they shoot like this for the next 3 games no one is going to beat them."  Did Clayton, Barton, and Lynne go cold?

I agree somewhat with whoever made the post that was critical of Amherst's facilities.  It is a decent small gym.  Bigger than Fisher's but nothing to call home about.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on March 14, 2005, 08:52:44 AM
Back to the Fisher/Potsdam game.  Earlier in the year myself, "Bulb", and a few others kept saying that in order to beat Fisher you must get physical with them.  Bulb even went as far as to say O'Brien and Sydney were soft.  Well, he was right.  Both very good players, but wow did Potsdam manhandle them.  No one was smart enough to be that physical with them in the E8, and that's why they ran the table.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on March 14, 2005, 03:04:42 PM
To everyone playing SUNYAC ball this past year, thank you. Night in and night out you represented your schools with courage and dignity and provided your fans with intense, competitive basketball. The seniors will be particularly missed. To Joe Zera,  we'll remember you're leadership bringing along a very young team, first to respectability, and then to a team no one wanted to play by year's end. To Dave Ponza, we'll remember you as the personification of the "go to guy" on the floor and a gracious young man off. To Junior Clayton, we enjoyed seeing you score many of those 1K plus points. To Chris Turner, your career 900+ points and 500+ rebounds are only suggestive of what you meant to a team that won 2 regular season and 2 tournament championships.  

To the returning juniors, looking forward to seeing you next year. To the underclassmen, you have models to emulate and guide your development as both athletes and students.  

And to any scholastic players looking for collegiate opportunities, SUNYAC can provide you with outstanding academic experiences and the highest caliber D3 hoops played in the state.  

State School?  

Proud of it!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bigdaddy on March 14, 2005, 03:47:34 PM
Potsdam had a great season and as I predicted early in the season made the Elite eight.  

Christian Turner had a great season and was a defensive nightmare for all who played him. Eldon Harris was a tremendous presence on the floor and vastly improved from his underclassment days. He had tons to be proud of. Jim Connely has a great year and showed tremendous leadership. Edane Barton is a monster when he is inspired and played great ball and was a an animal on the boards. Michael Brooks was intelligent and had great hands. Ryan Lynn was an amazing defender and distributor all year. Ernst Ducena is a great defender and impressive shooter. Evril Clayton is a pure scorer that no one wants to guard.  

Potsdam has a lot to be proud of and was truly dominant in many ways. Sherry Dobbs has brought great basketball back to Jerry Welsh gym and it will be interesting to see his recruited class for next season...lets hope he has found some more forwards.  

My belief is that Ernst, Edane, Ryan Lynn, Dave Bisessi, will all be back next year. Jerry Farrior I am assuming will be a starting forward/center next season.  

Anyway....congrats to a brilliant team from Potsdam.  

Potsdam was strong all season and answered big questions asked of them concerning the strength of the SUNYAC and how they would do against a tested opponent.  

In my opinion...Rochester has a great club...but Potsdam is just as good.  

This game in many ways...was decided by the officiating. Potsdam also missed some key shots. They put forth great effort however.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Texas Mike on March 15, 2005, 01:13:19 PM
Great job Potsdam from deep in the heart of Texas! The coach was great but he couldn't do it without all the hard work and heart displayed by the players. I couldn't make the games but listening online made them sound like a group of Division I-quality players in the game against an outstanding St. John Fisher squad. Great job guys.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: d-mac on March 15, 2005, 04:47:17 PM
And then there were FOUR... or really eight!
This weekend... the best of the best are crowded
But before then... we tell you who we think are the best... on "Hoopsville"!!!

Eight teams in the nation can see where the road finishes. But who is going to get past the final two exits?

Millikin took out Calvin in a hard fought battle... to earn their way to the Women's Final Four. So is this Illinois team ready to go? Coach Lori Kerans will let us know. Her #6 ranked Big Blue Ladies are the lowest ranked team remaining, but still battle tested and ready for their semi-final game with Southern Maine.

The #1 ranked Scranton Lady Royals sure had a tough road to drive as they took on last year's championship finalist, Bowdoin College in the Elite Eight. Scranton showed why they are the #1 team in the nation, knocking off the Polar Bears. So do the Lady Royals have anything left in the tank for Randolph-Macon in the semi-finals? Coach Mike Strong answer that question and if that #1 ranking adds any pressure.

On the men's side, Rochester is still marching... even though mid-way through the season, most thought they had no chance. But their star player returned... and they knocked off not only last year's Final Four finalist Amherst in the Sweet 16... but then took out a suddenly hot SUNY-Potsdam team in the Elite Eight. Now, Rochester has been here before, and Coach Mike Neer has the experience. But how does his team prepare for a tough Final Four match-up with Calvin.

Calvin - people warned us about. They are the only team left in this men's tournament that has played every game to get here. First Wheaton, then Aurora, finally Mississippi College fell to the side of the Knights. Then came MIAA conference foe - and champion Albion. Which Calvin disposed of 60-52... to take their drive to Salem... for the first time since they won the national title in 2000.
So, what will Coach Kevin Vande Streek use from that last title run to help his team get past Rochester and into the title game? We will ask him that and much more (including if he saw Albion's buzzer beater Friday night? Jared did!).

And then there is York College (PA)... 11-15 last year... flew under many radars most of the year... and now they are in the first Final Four in the school's history.
Coach Jeff Gamber has traveled to Salem before, but never with a team playing. Now, after 28 years... he in Salem as a participant. But, this trip is completely new to Coach Gamber and the Spartans, who until this year had never won a NCAA Tournament game. We will talk to the coach of York and see if he has yet to come down from the high of beating Kings on Saturday to lock up the trip to Salem.

So come join us online and LIVE from 8-10PM Eastern!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: xoverj on March 17, 2005, 09:23:27 AM
Well, posting up is done for another year.  Thank you to those who posted regularly and kept the board full of entertaining discussions.  THanks to everyone who kept scores updated during games when some of us couldn't be at them.  All the SUNY's are out, so I am signing off until October.  Everyone have a good off-season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bigdaddy on March 22, 2005, 04:23:22 PM
Its a tough note that only one guy from Potsdam made the region team...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 22, 2005, 04:43:57 PM
Yeah -- I don't know if that's a factor of six SUNYAC SIDs not bothering to cast a ballot, or the balance of the Potsdam team. Probably a little of both.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on March 23, 2005, 08:29:40 AM
Ah, now the All-Region team makeup is making a little more sense.  Not that any of the guys didn't deserve it, but 5 Empire 8 guys versus 2 SUNYAC players was a bit unbalanced.

This is pure speculation, but the Empire 8 Commissioner (Mitrano) is a young guy who might be more inclined to push the E8 SIDs to participate in online activities like D3hoops.com.  I don't know anything about the SUNYAC administration, but that might be the problem.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Bear on March 23, 2005, 06:23:11 PM
The SUNYAC commish is nice guy, long-time retired AD, located in Fredonia, at one of the outposts of the system.  He has a staff of one, a rotating intern who is the publicist.

BAMM - you've hit the nail on the head.  SUNYAC is loaded with good solid players, not just Potsdam, but 15-20 legit D-III stars.  If the SID's don't bother to vote, they won't get recognized.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bigdaddy on March 25, 2005, 08:00:41 PM
A lot of great seniors that will be gone from Potsdam...does anyone know if Edane Barton will be back for another season?

And does anyone know what kind of recruits are coming into Potsdam in the fall?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on May 28, 2005, 01:12:24 AM
Christian Tuner, SUNY Potsdam, has ben awarded a NCAA Post Graduate Scholarship. 28 male winter sports athletes, DI - DIII combined, have been honored with these $7500 scholarships. He is one of only 3 mens basketball players nationwide receiving the award. Selection criteria included outstanding contributions to their team, institution, and collegiate athletics in general.  

Turner, a Potsdam captain for the past two seasons, led the Bears to consecutive SUNYAC championships and to the Elite 8 in this year's tournament. He graduated summa cum laude this month with majors in biology and biochemistry and will attend medical school at SUNY Upstate this fall.

This is a well deserved tribute to an outstanding student-athlete and a reflection of the level of achievement that is possible within the SUNY system that every SUNYAC coach can point to.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 28, 2005, 11:58:09 AM
Yep, and if you're interested as to who the other Division III recipients were, they were on the front page about four weeks ago:

http://www.d3hoops.com/news.php?date=2005-05-03

Potsdam State didn't have a release out at the time so we didn't have much on Turner.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: JOHN HAMMOND on August 05, 2005, 06:44:21 PM
Has anyone seen any sunyac players play in any summer leagues this summer?

Well i have seen some Potsdam guys, Cortland,suny it and Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on August 10, 2005, 09:10:38 AM
I saw some potsdam guys at the Potsdam Camp, they looked sharp training high schoolers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Enrique Suarez on August 11, 2005, 07:21:36 AM
either of the last two posters have any specifics to offer on which guys for what teams and furthermore how they'll impact their teams...if at all
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Spring of Poland on October 02, 2005, 10:00:10 PM
New Post-errrr in the house--Where's all the chatter? It's October. The leaves are changing colors and falling. There's a slight chill in the air. And the Bills, Jets, and Giants are all off to uninspired starts---But more important things to discuss. Who's going to win this conference this year, with Da Bears all graduating? Is it Brockport with Belucci and newly added Jon Rother and friends? Is it Cortland with everyone except O'Garrow back? Potsdam 3-peat? Plattsburgh with their JUCO-squad? Oswego w/ Nick the quick and Ahmad, but minus Ponza the southpaw? Geneseo minus Zera the All-american? Lets hear some posts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on October 03, 2005, 06:47:29 PM
Brockport will definitely be one of the teams to beat. With Belluci, Harris , Williams, Rother, and another D1 transfer in Jerry Cheeves they will be tough. They also have 4 players coming off the bench that got big minutes like Amparo, podgorski, etc..  Im not sure who is really the team to beat but Bport will be near the top guaranteed!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on October 09, 2005, 12:38:39 PM
Took note of Rother settling at Bport. Figured that might be his resting place after KO'd at Cortland after team-leading stats from 03-04. Should be interesting early season (11/29) test sending CState to Bport. It'll be Port's lone home game of first semester.

Cortland debuting 11/18-19 in Franklin & Marshall tourney with Trinity (Ct) and Gwynedd-Mercy. Dragons open at home 11/22 vs. Elmira.

O'Garrow substantial loss. CStaters will need to fortify the point. Appear to have bolstered frontline through experienced 6-6 pickup who's been through some hoop wars (none of SUNYAC nature)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on October 10, 2005, 04:44:55 PM
Index i see that the port is in catholic's early season tourney, any idea who else is in it? I did notice that bport was on the road nonstop in the 1st semester.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on October 10, 2005, 05:06:09 PM
I just saw that eastern and drew are also in the catholic tourney. Drew looks absolutely terrible and they play catholic. Port draws eastern in the 1st game. I see that Bport is making a stop at York on the way down to DC to play against a VERY GOOD york squad. I believe they made it to the elite 8 or final 4 last year. Gotta hand it to whitmore year in and year out the y play the heavyweights, and always seem to have twice as many road games than home games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2005, 09:05:51 PM
You saved yourself from me giving you a hard time about not looking at our schedule pages. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: formerbant10 on October 13, 2005, 03:06:12 PM
Anyone have any info on Cortland....I know they open up against Trinity (CT) down at F&M.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on October 14, 2005, 04:43:23 PM
In regards to the pre-season favorites in the conference, I think the YAC could be largely up for grabs with lots of talent having graduated. Brockport in my view is the preseason favorite having perhaps two of the best players in the conference, Ben Belluci and Jon Rother. Not sure if Rother will have one or two yrs of eligibility. I don't know if he played anywhere last season but if he did, I guess he'd just have one year. Williams gives the Golden Eagles another option up front and he's a tough kid and good rebounder. The loses of Andrews and Boswell will hurt, but I think the returning talent is at least enough to deem this team perhaps one of the tops in the conference.

Cortland and Oswego then follow after that. Both teams both back a majority of talent from last year. Also the Red Dragons and Lakers will miss key parts of last year's playoff teams. Justin O'Garrow for Cortland and Dave Ponza for Oswego. Cortland has talent faces returning in Dave Jutton, Brian Kirchoff and Frank Ranieri while Oswego counters with Nick Perioli, Ahmad Mims and Matt Burridge. Oswego had some postseason success last year it can build on having won an ECAC Upstate NY title.

After that I think its pretty up in the air. Plattsburgh's always tough with the players they bring in. Coach Curle needs a consistent effort night in and night out from Simmons and Gibbs-Smith and will have to bring in some more good JUCO transfers to replace Curtis Smith, Calvin Fraser and Johnnie Carter. Potsdam I would lump into the middle to lower tier just based on the fact they graduated five players who started and were the heart of the team. Coach Dobbs does a super job but I think this year may be one where Potsdam's getting things set for a run in the future. Lynn and Bisesi will form a decent backcourt combo. Oneonta had a good run late in the season last year and brings a substantial amount of talent back. Coach Medici in my view was the Coach of the Year in the conference last year so I think O-State will only get better. Possibly lump New Paltz in with this group because they graduated no one and bring the entire squad back (on paper at least).

And who knows what new faces will emerge and what surprises we'll have before the tip-off in about a month.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Spring of Poland on October 15, 2005, 12:14:51 AM
Da Posterrrrr is back----Absolutely Coach Medici was the Coach of the year in the conference last year. Not only did he bring in fresh talent to a program that needed it, he was able to mold what was the worst team in the SUNYAC's in '03-'04 into a very respectable 8-8 conference record, and a tough quarterfinal loss at Cortland.

That being said, I don't think Oneonta has enough talent to be mentioned with the upper-tier teams--Brockport has to be the favorite; Rother, Belucci and 2 DI transfers will make this team the team to beat on paper. Can they co-exist with only one basketball though???

Don't count C-State out---4 starters back, 9 of their top 10 returning. That says a lot in a conference that turns over a lot year after year. Look what Potsdam did last year with their squad nearly in tact for a whole 'nother year.

Dark horses? NP isn't a bad choice...they didn't graduate anyone either..then again, is that a good thing or bad thing?---My pick might have to be Potsdam. Very tough to pick against Sherry Dobbs and P-Dam. he'll find a way to get things done.

Next question for the forum: What teams will change dramatically from last season? Either for the better, or worse?
Brockport going from 5th in the tourney, to Pre-season #1 is a good start. who else? good or bad?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: haterinthehouse on October 29, 2005, 02:48:40 PM
I believe SUNY-IT will make a big jump this season-I am not saying that they will contend for the sunyac title or finish 1,2, or 3 but they will be much improved.  They have a few juco transfers from CCC, Herkimer, and Mohawk Valley that were all region players that will instantly make them better.  And with Murphy you never know what can happen
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on October 30, 2005, 09:47:16 PM
That'll be a pretty big order for SUNYIT seeing that they lose Nick Grimmer and Rich Phillips.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on November 05, 2005, 12:58:44 PM
Bport looked good in a scrimmage at RIT today. Bport fell behind 5-0 but won the 1st half 37-20. They also won the second half 26-12. The big negative for bport was brandon williams only played about 10 minutes before rolling his ankle. He was done for the day after that. Also jon rother made the trip but didnt play because of a sprained ankle. Mandalano and cheeves looked very good in the 1st 20 min. Also belluci , rubertone and harris looked very good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on November 05, 2005, 01:13:17 PM
Any word on Potsdam's scrimmage last night?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on November 07, 2005, 01:27:02 PM
Cortland looked solid in alumni game on sat. night.  only good things to say about new big man in the middle.  many returners will have the chance to shine now this year, and will need to if they want to contend with the fire power of bport and plats.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on November 08, 2005, 12:52:07 PM
here is a little pre-season action in my mind...

1. Bport
2. Cortland
3. Plats
4. Oswego
5. New Plts
6. Buff st.
7. Oneonta
8. Fradonia
9. Pots
10. Geneseo
11. SUNYIT

... tell me what you think.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on November 08, 2005, 04:45:39 PM
I would not sleep on Potsdam. Dobbs will have those guys ready come league play. Remember I said this when Jan. comes around.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 08, 2005, 07:01:54 PM
Retired 12 - I think you may have something.  9th is a little weak to be sure, but the SUNYAC is always tough.

Potsdam had enormous graduation losses, Harris, Clayton, Turner, Connolly & Brooks.  (Those five could probably make a nice contender by themselves). 

But the cupboard is not bear (pun intended).  Two time SUNYAC tourney MVP Edane Barton is back, and maybe the best athlete in the conference.  In 11 post season games over the last two years, Barton has averaged 15 pts, 8 rebounds, and three assists in about 25 minutes per game.  He will see a lot of time this year, and he has the skills and the experience to put up some big numbers.

Ernst Ducena led the conference in 3 pt shooting, and Dave Bisesi gives the Bears a scoring threat at the point, something they haven't had in about 6 years.

Dobbs and Co, know what they're doing, they have some nice recruits who are learning the differences between HS & College ball.  The speed at which they develop will be the key for Potsdam this year, as the depth beyond these three regulars is all new.

Potsdam opens against a talented Wilkes (Bo Ryan's alma mater) team in the North Country Tournament on 11/18 at Clarkson.  Wilkes features D-I transfer Chris Shovline who was one of the top players in PA HS ball in '03 & '04, and may be one of the best D-III guards anywhere.  That will be a good opening test for sure.

Scrimmages to date have been impressive, but the competition was not up to SUNYAC standards. 

T minus 9 and counting to season opener.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawk Backer on November 08, 2005, 07:12:26 PM
Also watch out for Buff. State...

Losing the twins will be addition by subtraction, and new coach Fajri Ansari (former head coach of Buffalo HS power Turner Carroll -- Julius Page, Leonard Stokes, Loren Stokes, etc.) has plenty of returning talent.

Gregg Jones is one of the best pure scorers in the conference, and watch out for James Williams, a JUCO All-American from Brooklyn, to provide a low-post presence.

If I were anyone else in the SUNYAC, I would be very scared of Buff. State.  It has been a sleeping giant for a number of years, and Ansari has the assistants in place and the connections to get the recruiting job done.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 08, 2005, 11:39:48 PM
CStaters scrimmaged at home vs. Hobart this evening and ruled the closing 30 minutes on heels of ragged first 10'.  Hobart in second outside scrum; Corts their first. Red Dragons will surely be a force. A deep veteran squad despite losing O'Garrow at point and wing Brian Kirchoff.

Ranieri, Jutton, Headley, Skrelja, Jankiewicz, Q. Merritt capable hands. Will probably go with soph Derrick Fish (backup a year ago) at point till a current footballer clears his fall duties.

An addition of major proportions is senior Scott Taggart at 6-6, 250. A handful to say the least. Still a project is 6-8, 260 soph J. Sargent.

Dr. Bill Williams back on coaching staff -- the onetime CState head man (directing player TSpan) an aide along with Dave Muchnick, a Geneseo starter last season.

KINGer, at first look your preseason lineup has merit. Oneonta could elevate. Plenty of work ahead in Potsdam. At least eight freshmen aboard. But Coach D. and Cortland native Cohen know their stuff
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on November 09, 2005, 04:01:22 PM
KING(aka Kirchoff), why aren't you playing this year? I thought you were two years behind me and that would make you a college senior this year, wouldn't it? Why aren't you playing ball?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on November 09, 2005, 10:37:11 PM
Any thoughts on preseason 1st Team?
Heres my picks...

Barton, Pdam
Jones, Buff St
Belluci, Bport
Peroli, Oswego
Simmons, Platts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 10, 2005, 12:20:42 AM
Indication of the depth of SUNYAC, some pretty good folks that should also contend for first team honors

Heslin - Oneonta
Foluke-Henderson - New Paltz
Mims - Oswego
Sanzo - Fredonia (If healthy)
Rother - Brockport
Ranieri - Cortland

All of these folks are proven and capable of big years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sunyac fan on November 10, 2005, 02:31:10 AM
Agree but how bout

1.Bport
2.Cort
3.Oneonta
4.Oswego
5.Pots
6.Platts
7.Buff st.
8.New paltz
9.Fredonia
10.Geneseo
11.SUNYIT

Always a tough league, and a bold prediction with Oneonta but showed promise at the end of last season under Medici and they have Heslin back along with 3 other starters.  Maybe out on a limb but....

Bport is the clear fav.  Cort always tough. Oswego has a very good pg with alot of experience.  But must say the SUNYAC's always leave me guessing so that's how I see it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on November 10, 2005, 02:04:25 PM
I HAVE WATCHED LAST SEASON AND WAS IMPRESSED WITH ALOT OF TEAMS AND PLAYERS I THINK WITH THE LOSSES THAT A LOT OF TEAMS TOOK I THINK THE TOP FOUR MIGHT GO
BROCKPORT OR PLATTSBURGH 1 OR 2 EITHER WAY
CORTLAND
ONEONTA
BUFF STATE

AS FOR PLAYERS I WANT TO SEE IF BROCKPORT WILL HAVE ENOUGH BALL FOR EVERYONE I THINK THAT KRIS GIBBS SMITH IS THE BEST ATHLETE IN THE CONFERENCE BY FAR. HE CAN SCORE INSIDE AND OUT. I THINK HE WAS A LITTLE INCONSISTANT LAST YEAR BUT I THINK IT WAS HARD FOR HIM AND GILANI TO FIT IN ON A TEAM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SCORE TWENTY A GAME SIMMONS AND GIBBS SMITH WILL BOTH MAKE FIRST TEAM AND IN MARCH REMEMBER I SAID THAT GIBBS SMITH WILL BE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. DONT FORGET HOW HE FINISHED OUT, SCORING A LOT OF POINTS IF HE COMES BACK LIKE HE FINISHED HE WILL BE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. I DONT KNOW ABOUT PLATTSBURGH'S RECRUITS BUT I THINK THAT THEY WILL BE VERY SOLID AS WELL AS BROCKPORT. BUFF STATE HAS A VERY GOOD TRANSFER PLAYER IT WILL BE A VERY GOOD SEASON WE SHALL SEE VERY SOON. BUT FIRST TEAM I HAVE

GIBBS SMITH
BELLUCI
SIMMONS
PERROLI
JONES

WE SHALL SEE IN AROUND A WEEK HOW THE SEASON STARTS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on November 10, 2005, 03:21:38 PM
Although they are still my pick to win the SUNYAC tourney, Bport MIGHT have to wait for star big man Jon Rother maybe until second half of the season.  This due to rumors that bc of some fuzzy NCAA rule and grimmy actions by the Cortland coaches and AD, he might have to sit.

In response to the Gibbs-Smith player of the year post... it WONT happen.  Not bc he doesn't have the talent or skill, but bc he is not mentally tough enough to do it night in and night out in the league.  My pick might be Barton of Pots. even though not my fav. player.  This is bc he will have the O run around his game and will not have to share the ball, in return putting up big numbers. 

Chad, get a hold of me personally and i'll tell you why.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on November 11, 2005, 11:36:54 AM
YOU HAVE YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE MINE FAIR ENOUGH BUT GIBBS SMITH WILL ALSO BE IN THE SAME SITUATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOST 7 PLAYERS TWO WHICH SHOT THE BALL ALOT OF TIMES SO IM SURE THE COACH OVER THERE WILL BE HAVING THE BALL IN HIS HANDS ALOT MORE THIS SEASON BUT I AM NOT ONE TO TALK REMEMBER MY COMENTS IN MARCH BUT I HOPE IT IS A GOOD SEASON AND I CANT WIAT TO SEE GIBBS SMITH MATCH UP WITH BARTON AND WE WILL SEE WHO IS THE BETTER ATHLETE AND WHO CAN KEEP  THERE HEAD AND WHO GETS THE WIN.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on November 11, 2005, 10:58:28 PM
Brian,

Sad to see you go from the Red Dragons. It was enjoyable watching you play the last few years and I wish you the best of luck in the rest of your time at Cortland. You're a welcome edition to the board as we enter what's hoping to be an exciting season in the SUNYAC.

ILoveBBall,

If you're going to post about yourself, at least use your real name.  And if you're going to use an alias, make sure that your e-mail address doesn't give you away. 

I'll be talking about the SUNYAC and the rest of the East with Dave McHugh on Hoopsville this Tuesday night. Stay tuned to the main page for more information. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Spring of Poland on November 12, 2005, 12:21:13 AM
Posterrrrrrrr is here----Less than a week to go before the season tips off, great posts so far in here, even better debates.

Cortland will undoubtedly miss Kirchoff's outside shooting, and underrated rebounding as well. However, if that big transfer is as good as all the Cortlandites say he is, he slides into that empty spot into the lineup, Ranieri and Headley slide down a position. Not that bad.

As for Brockport: Rother is unable to play 1st semester because Brockport gave him bad advice by letting him go to a CC last year for a semester. Nothing to do with anything from Cortland's end. It's not up to them. Rother has to have a year of "residence" at Brockport before playing. He doesn't. End of story. However with only 2 or 3 Conference games played in the 1st semester anyways, not that huge of a deal I wouldn't think. Belucci and Co. will have enough power to have a fine 1st semester.

What's with all the bashing of P-Dam in here? 9th in the Conference? C'mon...They still have Barton. They still have some decent backups from last year's squad, and they have a fine recruiting class from what my sources tell me. They'll be more than fine. Pencil them in for 9-10 wins in Conference play.

My picks:
Brockport
Cortland
Oswego
Potsdam
Oneonta
Plattsburgh (Without Simmons; he's no longer there)
Buffalo St. (So long as these transfers are the real deal)
New Paltz
Geneseo
Fredonia
SUNYIT

To me, it's a 3 team race. Port, C-State and the Lakers seem pretty far removed from everyone else. Fair to say?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: lakernation on November 14, 2005, 11:33:21 PM
Should be a great season, building off of last year.  Real tough to call a favorite in this race.  B-Port, Cort, O-Town, you know Potsdam will be there, an up and down Platty team makes for a very top heavy and competitive league this year.  I cant wait to get things started.

Now its time for a shameless plug.  You can catch the action of the Max Ziel Tourny this weeked on 88.9 FM WNYO, and webcast @ www.oswego.edu/~wnyo


Lets tip it up!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on November 15, 2005, 03:01:33 PM
Basketball instead of Lakers hockey on WNYO this weekend? Blasphemy! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: lakernation on November 16, 2005, 08:48:49 AM
Hey, its the first weekend for basketball.  Gotta do it.  For the second straight year, hockey will take a back seat to basketball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 17, 2005, 01:32:35 AM
Be sure to head over to the Multi-Regional Topics Board and select your team for the new Survivor Pool!  :D

You might actually win something!  ;D

Deadline is Friday before the first game's tipoff
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2005, 04:35:49 PM
Conference has nine teams out of the gate tonight, all tourney dates. Four at home:
Buff St and first year coach Fajri Ansari host Marietta (Naz-Pitt Bradford other 1st round);  young Oswegos entertain NY York (Caz-Skidmore); unknown Plats vs. Hartwick (Lehman-WNEng); UTech vs. Alb Pharm (UC-Vt SJoe)

Five travel:
Corts at F&M fest in Lancaster and draws Ct's Trinity (F&M-Gwynedd Mercy), Freds at Rutgers-Newark vs. Emerson (RN-Centenary), NP at Hamilton vs. Messiah (Hams-Medaille), Oneonta at Muhlenberg vs. Lynchburg (Mules-StatenIsle), PBears in Clarkson vs. Wilkes (Clarks-PSmiths)

Bports (w/Bellucci, D1 import Cheves and wo/Rother) begin season and road show  Tuesday at StLawrence, while Genesees have tourney duty Sat/Sun at Emmanuel vs. WConn (Emman-MIT)

Interesting that no traveling SUNYAC team faces host in first round. Might that mean home side desires to steer clear of tougher 1st rounder (vs. SUNYAC) in order to make final?

Do know Corts relishing challenge at F&M where three other entries all potent. F&M perennial postseason team (23-7 last season) and coach nearing 700 Ws at the school. G-M 23-5 and 26-3 last two winters but lost 6-9 center to pros. Trintiy coming off 19-7 season and features preseason A-A center Tyler Rhoten (22.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg), onetime football scholarship candiate at Syracuse
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 18, 2005, 10:33:04 PM
Potsdam opens with gritty 68-55 win against a veteran Wilkes team with 10 of top 12 back from last year

Foul plagued contest with 48 fouls called and 4 fo's (two for each side).

Senior wing Ernst Ducena led the Bears with 21 pts on 7-11 from the floor including 3-4 from beyond the arc.  Ducena also put the clamps on Wilkes star soph Chris Shovlin, who was held to 11 pts, including 4 in the last three minutes when Potsdam sported a double digit lead.  Edane Barton added 12 first half points for the Bears, who return three regulars and sport 10 new players on the roster.

Potsdam played suffocating defense, forcing 22 turnovers, and also outrebounding the Colonels 34-35.

Potsdam's eight freshmen and 10 newcomers played a total of 89 minutes, and made solid contributions scoring, defending, and on the boards.  Potsdam went 11 deep in the opener against a tough opponent.

Potsdam faces Clarkson, 81-51 winner over USCAA opponent Paul Smiths in the 4 PM title tilt.

So far, so good. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2005, 11:25:59 PM
Cortland nipped 78-77 by Trinity (Ct) in what must have been a good 'un. Corts up 36-34 at half; overall was 28x51fg, 6x10 3s, 15x23 ft. Very few TOs either side. Trinity 31-28 reb edge; 30x58 fg, 12x14ft. New Dragon center S. Taggart 20 pts (8x13fg), 11 reb; R. Headley 15 pts; D. Jutton 14 pts, D. Maggiacomo (3x4 3s) 11 pts. off bench. F. Ranieri 8 pts. Trinity A-A pivot T. Rhoten (11x18fg) 25 pts, 4 rebs.
Corts tomorrow vs. G-M, 73-68 fall to host Franklin & Marshall

Buffalo State in record 138-83 drilling of Marietta, Oh. Twas 73-46 at half with BS 31x47fg then and finished 57x84. Whew! J. Williams 28 pts, 11 reb. in 19'. G. Jones 17 pts. in 19', J. Tirado 14, D. Mozelle 14, C. Guiden 7 stls, 6 assts. BS 35 TOvers, Marietta 40!! Goes against Naz in final

Oneonta stops Lynchburg 64-54 as victims 4x25fg in 1st half. OState up 24-18 at intermission. S. Coffey (5x9fg, 3x5 3s) 16 pts, E. Bratt (9x10ft) 13 pts. in spare role, B. Heslin 10 pts, 4 swipes and R. Morin 4 blks

Fredonia 64, Emerson 60

Utica Tech 98, Albany Pharmacy 48

Oswego 81, York, NY 69

New Paltz bows to Messiah 84-75. Tied 35-35 at the break and at 40 in 2nd half. J. Hauser 17 pts, J. Carter 15, M. Irwin 10 pts, 6 assts and B. Kaible 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gatoradio on November 19, 2005, 02:23:22 AM
Potsdam looked decent in their opener this evening versus Wilkes (PA).  The pre-season rankings of Wilkes (#10 in D3) was more than a bit off - and what we saw on the court certainly wasn't indicative of that recognition.  Somehow they managed to keep the game within reach throughout despite being over-played by the Bears. 

Wilkes had a decent press.  Not much for creating turnovers, but good in slowing the pace down to keep a streaky team like Potsdam at bay.  Some great 3-point shooters to boot.  A few more passes to them and the game might have gone down to the wire.  Definite rebounding abilities as well.  They pulled down a lot of boards, even having the good fortune of rebounding many of their own foul shots, which lead to many second chance opportunities from errant field goal attempts.  Admittedly, the height advantange was on Wilkes side and played a significant role in helping that to happen.

Potsdam had its moments as well.  Good penetration in the Paint. All stemming from players who move around without the ball - a great deal more than last year - and indicative of a team-effort as opposed to placing the burden on the returners. Reliable distance shooters coming through in the clutch.  I'm still warming up to the Idea of Barton playing the 4 position, when he had been playing 3 up until this year, but the Bears need him to fill that slot unless the new recruit class matures in that role.  Scary moment for Edane - a close brush with a rolled ankle while trying to turn a stolen ball breakaway into what appeared to be a dunk, but fortunately had most of his weight was on the other foot and fell forward instead of on it.

Many new faces for the Bears this year.  Dobbs substitutes and rotates with such frequency, that everyone got a lot of quality court time, rotation that was especially helpful in the whistle-fest that played out this evening. 

*insert your own referee jab here*  ;o)  (j/k!)

I can't recall a time after the first ten minutes that Bisesi, Barton, & Ducena were all on the court playing together.  It's great to see new talent being rotated into prime time minutes early on, and against a purportedly "good" school, it sends a confident message to the players that Sherry has confidence in them, and is not content to just rely heavily on his returners to make things happen.

One new addition that looked promising from tonight that may be deserving of an "upgrade" was Freshman Gaurd Alvin Dike, who showed some instances of great ball handling, speed, and agility in the paint. It looks like he must have spent a good amount of time over the summer practicing on his hometown courts in Brooklyn to refine those improv skills.

Come home games, watch out... the crowd definitely contributes like a "6th man" .  The Maxcy Maniacs have grown, and the Energy Pep band is also due to be in full force once again.

If the Bears returners remain healthy, they'll run with the top schools in the SUNYAC.  Likely in the 2 or 3 spot - depending on how quickly the freshman squad step up and take to the Dobbs system. 

More to come following tomorrows match-up versus victorious host team Clarkson.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on November 19, 2005, 10:25:50 AM
Congrats to the bears on an out of conf victory. I always root for the sunyac out of conf. I dont see anything telling me wilkes was #10 in d3 preseason rankings?? They were 15-12 last year and finished either 5th or 6th in there conference. I also dont see them receiving a single vote in the preseason top 25??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2005, 11:19:16 AM
Re: Wilkes/Potsdam

As noted elsewhere on the board, the #10 ranking was Smith & Street's, a once a year ranking done without even knowing who's on the team.

Wilkes was 15-10 last year in a tough league with Kings & Scranton.

They have 10 of their top 12 back, and started 1 freshman.  they are big, 6-8, 6-6, 6-5.

They have a potential D-III AA in soph Chris Shovlin who averaged 18.8 ppg last year after transferring from D-I Monmouth.  He was a two year first team all-state player in PA, and for a while was being courted by Rutgers of the Big East.  He was blanketed by Potsdam captain Ernst Ducena, held to 11 pts.  Ducena meanwhile tossed in 21 including 3x4 from long range.

Wilkes was picked as the preseason favorite in their league based on all their returning talent, and there is a lengthy snippet on them in Mark Simon's column this week.

That being said, they couldn't handle Potsdam's half court pressure, and Potsdam's athleticism won the battle of the boards by 9, despite a Bear height disadvantage of about 3" per position.

Potsdam has three returning regulars, five letterman total, but has reloaded with 8 freshmen, 1 JUCO, and one walkon who came to Potsdam to study, held his own in the off-season wars and has turned into a nice player.

Top Freshmen appear to be Alvin Dike, Msgr. Scanlon, NYC, & Brandon Siskavich 6-7 C/F, Peru, NY.   Both have nice games and will contribute right from the get go. 

Dobbs & Co. know what they're doing, work hard at it, and know that tough defense generates lots of good things in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2005, 12:41:52 PM
Plattsburgh 68, Hartwick 43

SUNYACs 7-2 on opening night

Cortland in heart-wrenching setback to Trinity. Four-point play (trey + ft) with 11 seconds left the difference. Ouch! Corts led entire second half till then, 47-36 at 17:22, 50-39 at 16:35, 71-64 at 4:55 ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2005, 07:28:31 PM
Potsdam over Clarkson 74-60 for crown. Extends 35-31 half lead quickly to 43-31. E. Barton 17 pts, 9 rebs, 6 assists to land mvp. E. Ducena (4x7fg) 13 pts, D. Bisesi 13 pts, 3 assts, both all tourney team. Bears 22x51fg, 23x37ft. Clarkson 49-32 reb margin but hit only 33%fg

Buffalo State recovers from 39-36 halftime hole to stop Naz 83-73 for title. MVP J. Williams (7x14fg) 22 pts, 4 assts in 34'. D. Mozelle all tourney with (8x11fg) 18 pt game. C. Hepburn (8x12ft) 16 pts in 14', J. Wingate 13 pts. BS bench nets 49 pts. to Naz 12. Naz' J. Canori all tourney with (10x17fg) 35 pts, 8 rebs in going the distance. BS 27x62fg, Naz 23x61fg (13x24 3s). Pitt Bradford over Marietta 131-119 in consi. Naz over PB 92-72 in Friday start

New Paltz takes consi 93-66 over Medaille at Hamilton. Hawks 12 up at 11:15 of first half and Medaille never under double figure deficit. NP 55-35 half; hit 36x66fg for game, 11x19 3s. K. Crichlow 18 pts, 4 assts, all tourney J. Hauser 16 pts, 7 rebs, M. Irwin 13 pts, 8 assts; B. Kaible 11 pts and provides early spark. Widest lead at 29 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2005, 11:03:19 PM
Geneseo wins first rounder over W. Conn. 65-48 in Emmanuel tourney. T. Kitson, last season's rookie of year, with 19 pts. (8x13fg), 11 reb; S. McDonnell 14 pts, 9 rebs; G. Spears 12 pts; S. Sciera 8 pts, 7 rebs, B. Bennett 6 assts. Leads 35-23 at half. Outboards WC 52-34. Plays MIT in Sunday final

Fredonia falls 76-51 in final of Rutgers-Newark tourney to host. Freds 17x54fg (9x30 3s). Trail 39-20 at half with mere 7x28fg shooting to RN 13x25. T. Anderson (5x7fg, 3x5 3s) with 16 pts; C. Donohue 8 pts; all tourney K. Gordon 7 rebs, 3 pts. Gordon 19 pts, 10 reb. in opener vs. Emerson

Oneonta beaten by Muhlenberg 72-62 in latter's tourney final

Utica Tech downed 90-77 by Utica College in UT tourney title go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2005, 11:56:53 PM
Cortland takes third place in F&M Tourney by beating Gwynedd-Mercy, Pa. 85-67. Red Dragons shoot to 38-27 edge at break. F. Ranieri 23 pts (9x14fg, 2x2 3s), 11 rebs, 4 assts; D. Maggiacomo (5x10 3s) 17 pts, 3 assts in 18'; R. Headley (6x11fg) 15 pts, 6 rebs; S. Taggart (7x10 fg) 15 pts, 6 rebs in 17'. Corts 32x67fg, 10x23 3s, just 5 TOvers

Plattsburgh 83, W. New England 64 in Pburgh tourney final. Cards 34-33 half leaders

Oswego 77, Skidmore 55 in Oswego final. Lakers 41-28 up at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on November 20, 2005, 07:28:34 PM
Hello jdex, Bear, and others.  Hope all is well with you.

An interesting start to the year.

SUNYAC 2-1 vs. E8, 2-0 vs. LL.

SUNYAC 16-7 overall.

Good win for Potsdam over Wilkes, who was picked to win the MAC Freedom league (Scranton, King's, etc.)  I think those who picked the Bears to finish ninth in the league might be a little surprised come March. Good early test next Tuesday when Plattsburgh visits Potsdam. Can Gibbs-Smith carry the Cards, who lost Carter, Arterberry, Jelani Simmons, and Smith from last year? We'll see.

Anyone who saw Potsdam destroy St. John Fisher by 24 in the Sweet 16 last year should not be surprised that Fisher lost to Baldwin Wallace from the OAC in their opener.  Their preseason #7 ranking was laughable, and the person who voted them #1 in the country in the preseason poll ought to have his/her head examined.  Talk about no sense of perspective.  No disrespect on last year's 28-0 start, which is a great accomplishment, but beating up on Hartwick, Elmira, Nazareth, et al.  doesn't exactly mean you can hang with tougher Divison III teams.

Most unbelievable stat of the weekend, Wilkes up 27-0 and then 45-1 to start consolation game vs. Paul Smith's. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 20, 2005, 08:41:30 PM
Quote from: unbearable on November 20, 2005, 07:28:34 PM
Most unbelievable stat of the weekend, Wilkes up 27-0 and then 45-1 to start consolation game vs. Paul Smith's. 

Daaaaaammmmnnnn.  What the heck is Paul Smith's anyway (besides a College of Forestry)? I know they're not D3, I wouldn't guess they're D2 if they got beat down like that.

Heyyyy, my first post of Year 2 on d3hoops.com....and it's on the SUNYAC board asking about Paul Smith.

So who's the team to beat this year? I hear Brockport is back to being strong, but Potsdam should have something to say about that. Oswego? Cortland?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2005, 10:52:37 PM
Hey, Caz, you might want to try some previous pages on SUNYAC board.

Paul Smith's a north country institution. Don't know its affiliation; not NCAA, we believe. Wilkes 95, PS 39 consi at Pdam

On Sunday:
Geneseo saw 28-27 halftime edge vanish in 68-60 slip to MIT in Emmanuel Tourney (Boston) final. Knights in 44-38 lead midway through final half, then slipped. S. McDonnell (8x15fg) 21 pts, T. Kitson 12 pts., both all tourney. S. Sciera 13 pts, 8 rebs. Gens 25x53fg but just 2x15 3s while MIT 7x18 there (23x50fg)

Buffalo St. in third game in three days lost at D1 UBuffalo 96-61; outboarded 49-29 and shoots 24x60fg to Bulls 34x69. UB 36-16 inside point edge. G. Jones (6x11fg) 16 pts; J. Williams 5 blks, 11 pts, 5 rebs

On Saturday, Cortland's F. Ranieri all tourney at F&M meet where Trinity, Ct. won title, 84-75, in OT

Oneonta's Saturday loss to host Muhlenberg had Dragons within 64-62 at 1:18; was 32-31 game at half. OStater
's Heslin (7x14fg) 17 pts; Murphy (6x9 fg) 12 pts, 9 rebs; Coffee (6x12fg) 15 pts 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gatoradio on November 21, 2005, 03:49:04 AM
According to their website, Paul Smiths College is a member of the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (USCAA) which is comprised of small colleges throughout the United States with an enrollment less than 1500.  They are a member of the Northern Independence Conference (NIC) which is composed primarily of small institutions in New York and New England.

I was unable to locate a central web page for the NIC  conference, but according to Paul Smiths' season schedule, it would appear that some other schools in the conference are:  Clinton CC, Albany Pharmacy, Vermont Tech, New Hampshire Tech, Lyndon State, Green Mountain, Word of Life, and North Country CC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 21, 2005, 07:15:54 PM
Paul Smiths is a former two year school that has moved to four year, but with a decent number of one year certificate and two year associates programs still extant.  They have about 800 students and are located 20 miles Northwest of Lake Placid.

They have been playing more four year schools lately, and usually are a W for the nearby D-III Schools, Clarkson, Potsdam, SUNYIT and Plattsburgh usually have them on the schedule or in a tournament.

Wilkes had a bone in their teeth after the loss to Potsdam, and they just pounded Paul Smiths, who gave away about 5 inches per man.

Potsdam-Clarkson game was a struggle for the first half, then Dobbs made a couple of half-time adjustments, and the Bears ripped off 8 unanswered pts to start the second half.  Built the lead to 21 before Dobbs cleared the bench with about 3:00 to play.  Clarkson left regulars in and came back to a final margin of 14.  Dobbs played 14 of 15 on his roster and the 9 new guys played a total of 82 minutes, so they are getting baptized into college ball right out of the gate,

Much taller Clarkson had a big rebounding edge, but shot poorly both inside and outside.

Plattsburgh has reloaded, couple of athletic transfers, Gibbs-Smith is the go to guy, but he seems to have a decent supporting cast.  Despite their huge losses from last season, they will be competitive, they have good size, and athleticism.  Will be tough at their place for sure, particularly for those teams that have to play Potsdam on Friday and the Cards on Saturday.

Cards travel to Jerry Welsh Gym on 11/29 for a big early season game that should help sort out the haves and have-nots in the SUNYAC. 

Happy Turkey Day everyone.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2005, 01:14:15 AM
Oneonta takes 78-69 tumble in home opener vs. Utica College (3-0). Dragons down 34-31 in opening 20' despite B. Heslin 15 pts. OState quickly digs bigger hole. Heslin finishes with 20 pts. (7x11fg, 2x4 3s),  11 rebs. E. Bratt 12 pts., J. Murphy 12 pts, M. Reardon 11 pts, 6 assts. Ddragons 26x65fg, 6x21 3s. UC 24x50fg paced by J. Bryant 24 pts, 14 rebs. OState 1-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on November 22, 2005, 08:53:23 AM
Bport opens there season on the road tonight at 1-1 St Lawrence. Its a nice little advantage for St Lawrence to have already played 2 games, and playing the port with out rother in the post. I would love to go to the game but Bport to Canton is a serious hike.  I expect big games out of belluci, cheeves,maldonado, and harris.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2005, 11:09:24 AM
While Bports take to the road this evening vs. St. Lawrence, Cortland (1-1) has Elmira at home, New Paltz greets Mt. St. Mary's, and Fredonia treks to D'Youville
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on November 22, 2005, 07:10:21 PM
Just listened to the Bport pregame show and i have some bad news for Bport fans. Not only is rother not eligeable until 2nd semester but harris and williams are off the team. I have no idea if this is a one game suspension, a 1 semester suspension or if they are off the team for good. To sum this up Bport is without 3 starters, and is only dressing 10 players.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2005, 10:14:16 PM
Cortland (2-1) dispatches Elmira 84-52 at CState. Sees 37-27 halftime lead dwindle to 7 before pulling away. Dragons 50% from field, 56% 2nd half. F. Ranieri 16 pts, 9 rebs, 6 assts; D. Maggiacomo 14 pts (3x4 3s), R. Headley 11 pts, 7 rebs; S. Skrelja 11 pts, 7 rebs; D. Jutton 11 pts. (3x3 3s)

Brockport opens campaign with rallying 77-74 win at St. Lawrence. D. Maldonado 10 foot bucket at 3:05 snaps 66-66 tie and Bports never headed.  Larries within 74-72 when fts extend Bport edge. SL final bid off rim. Hosts up early 23-11; Eagles close to 35-31 at half. Bport first lead of final half at 61-60, and J. Cheves trey makes it 64-60. Cheves 6 3s in 25 pt. game (16 in 2nd half), 6 rebs. B. Bellucci 15 pts, 7 rebs. Maldonado 11 pts. Bkport 25x69 fg (9x18 3s); SL 33-31 reb edge but Saints with 32 TOvers (Bport 16)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2005, 11:56:30 PM
And,
New Paltz (2-1) def. Mt. St. Mary 63-57 in first round of Hudson Valley Shootout. At home, NP overcame 30-29 intermission deficit. M. Irwin trey put NP up with 12:52 left. Only 1 ahead at 3:52, Hawks finished well. J. Hauser 20 pts, 7 reb; B. Kaible 10 pts, 8 rebs. NP vs. Vassar 11/30 in final

Fredonia (2-1) takes D'Youville 61-55 in OT in Buffalo. C. Donahue 3-pter starts off extra frame. T. Alassari (15 pts, 9 rebs, 3 stls) hits 2ft with :12 left in second half. T. Anderson 19 pts, 6 assts, K. Gordon 8 rebs
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Post by: thebear on November 27, 2005, 06:50:35 PM
Preview of SUNYAC openers Tuesday night. Pairings match top teams and traditional rivals.  Conference co-favorite Oswego gets the bye on Tuesday.

Cortland  at Brockport   
Two of top three preseason picks in conference tipoff.  D-I transfer Cheves a scoring machine for the Eagles, but Dragons have 10 of top 12 back from their second place team, plus a top inside player in Scott Taggart who held his own against 1st team preseason AA Tyler Rhoten of Trinity in season opener, in a game decided in closing seconds.

Fredonia  at Buffalo State   
Fredonia has everyone back, but Buffalo State has a new coach, top talent returning, and a new force in the middle in 6'8 James Williams.

SUNYIT  at Geneseo   
Geneseo made a run at the end of the season, but lost conference POY in Zera.  Kitson was conference ROY and Steve McDonnell, top perimeter player return.  IT lost two best players, but has veteran coach Tom Murphy at the helm, and several top JUCO's

Oneonta  at New Paltz   
Coach Vince Medici turned program around in one year, and has core returning including excellent size on the front line.  NP lost top two scorers, but will be more team oriented and has a top player in John Hauser.  Will Oneonta playing Monday/Tuesday after a layoff hurt the Dragons?

Plattsburgh  at Potsdam

Unbeaten archrivals open their conference season.  Bears return two time tourney MVP Edane Barton, 3pt ace Ernst Ducena, and SUNYAC coach of the year Sherry Dobbs.  Development and maturation of Bears talented newcomers (10 including 8 freshmen) will be the key.
Plattsburgh returns Kris Gibbs-Smith, an amazing athletic talent, and adds two talented Xfers in Anthony Williams (Morgan State) and Travis Gorham (Post U/Ct).  Although Cards lost a myriad of all-conference talent, they may be a better team this year.

Great pairings, will learn a lot about the strength of the conference right from the get go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2005, 03:24:50 PM
Bports,
Yes, indeed, what's up with Eagles? Current roster at Bport site lists just nine players. No Harris, No Williams in addition to expected no Rother this semester
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2005, 04:12:57 PM
Just realized Brockport played Sunday. Nine man cast lost at Hamilton, 102-88. Trailed 48-38 at half. Shot 29x57 with 10 3s. Hams went 39x78fg with 44-30 board advantage. B. Bellucci 34 pts (12x17fg, 8x10ft), J. Cheves 19 pts (7x13fg, 5 3s), K. Amparo 13 pts (4x10fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 28, 2005, 04:33:06 PM
As roster indicates, word on the street is that Harris and Williams are off the Brockport team, but no public details as to why.  Whitmore will still keep the Eagles competitive even with 9 on the roster.

Hamilton is a deep/talented team, they are much improved with Welchons running the show. 

Hamilton is always a tough place for a road game.

Looks like it was a scrappy battle with 4 players T'd up in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2005, 07:45:14 PM
A bit more digging had Bport/Hams game over early in second half. Conts scored a bunch early then, and led by 25 late. Bellucci with 36 pts, 29 in 2nd half. Bport with 31 TOvers.
Hectic pace for sure. Hamilton (at least website) had final score 102-90 stead of 102-88.

In addition to Tuesday's SUNYAC starters, Oneonta hosting Caz tonight, and Oswego at Caz on Wed.  when New Paltz faces Vassar in Hudson Valley Tourney final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2005, 01:07:48 AM
Oneonta rolls 82-59 over Cazenovia. Total control for Dragons, up 44-33 at midway mark and 70-44 with 9' left. J. Murphy 18 pts (5x7 fg, 8x10ft), 9 reb. for 2-2 OState. S. Coffey 12 pts (5x10fg, 2x6 3s), M. Reardon 10 pts, J. Winans 4 assts. go 30x73fg, 19x26ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2005, 10:26:12 PM
Cortland 73, Brockport 72 at Bport. All it was cracked up to be. D. Maggiacomo 3pter (F. Ranieri asst) at 0:13 wins it after hosts' D. Ruberton layup at 0:27 breaks 70-70 tie. Bport doesn't get final shot. Turnover at end.
Maggiacomo `3' to close out 1st half made it 41-41.
Bport scores game's 1st 8 pts -- widest lead of the game. CState up 23-19, Bport 35-30.

For CState, R. Headley (7x10fg) 18 pts in 28'; Ranieri (6x10fg) 15 pts, 4 assts), S. Taggart (6x8fg) 12 pts, 8 rebs; Maggiacomo (4x14fg) 10 pts in 27' off bench; S. Skrelja (4x9fg) 9 pts, 9 rebs.

Cortland 30x58fg (6x16 3s). Shoots 16x30 1st half. Bport 30x64fg (5x22 3s). Corts 7x12ft, Bport 7x8. Bport 37-29 reb margin,  with 15 TOvers to Cstate 15.

B. Bellucci (8x20fg) 20 pts, 10 rebs, 3 assts, 8 TOvers in 35'; J. Cheves (6x10fg, 3x10 3s) 15 pts in 34'. K. Amparo (6x10fg) 12 pts, 5 asts; J. Zenkel 6 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on November 29, 2005, 10:34:35 PM
Potsdam 86 - Plattsburg 74 in Bears SUNYAC opener. Ernst Ducena: 6 - 11 from the field with four 3's. Dave Besesi scores big (18) from the point. Devon Taft came alive from the field pmping in 17. Tim Reinhardt played big off the bench with 9 providing just enough inside threat, along with Brenden Siskavich

Chris Gibbs-Smith knocked down 23 for the Cards although 9 of those were after the game was out of reach.

Defense? Not tonight - Bears shot 50% from the field, Cards 46%, although Ducena did a solid job on Gibbs-Smith holding him to 14 (came in averaging 28) for the first 35 minutes.

Once again, Plattsburg had control issues. Players barked at the Z's, coach T'd up once. Cards appeare to have enough talent to win if clear heads prevail. Otherwise, another year of disappointment.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2005, 10:58:20 PM
New Paltz 76, Oneonta 75
Buffalo St. 90, Fredonia 76
Utica Tech 75, Geneseo 72, OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2005, 11:14:30 PM
Buffalo State easily over guest Fredonia 90-76 with scintillating 35x59 (10x15 3) floor accuracy. G. Jones a terror with 31 pts. (10x13fg, 6x7 3s), 5 reb. in 28'. J. Williams 14 pts. (6x13fg), 3 assts, 2 blks in 24'; D. Mozelle 13 pts (6x7fg) in 18'. BS controls first half in 51-37 style, dropping 21x32fg (6x7 3s). Freds unshabby 13x26fg by half, finish 23x57. T. Anderson 17 pts, 6 rebs for victims; M. Kelly 16 pts (4x8fg, 7x8ft), D. Watkins (5x9fg) 15 pts, 7 rebs; T. Alassdari 12 pts. BS with 22 assists

Utica Tech goes OT to win 75-72 at Geneseo. Tech up 41-35 at half and never trails the rest of the way, though tied at least twice in 2nd half. Was 64-64 on Geneseo S. McDonnell trey 3:32 from end of reg. Adams hoop gives UT edge before G. Spears bucket at 2:13 makes it 66-66 through reg. Tied at 68 when Adams layup puts Tech ahead for good.
Five Techs in double figures: C. Bien-Aime 14 pts (4x6 3s), C. Brown 13 pts (10 reb), and reserves C. Plante 12 pts (3x5 3s), C. Reaves 10 pts (3 stls), J.P. Adams 10 pts. M. Abrawad 10 of UT's 14 assts and adds 7 rebs. A. Gilkes 10 rebs. UT 29x63fg, 9x14 3s.
McDonnell 26 pts. in defeat, shooting 9x24fg -- 8x21 3s! Has 5 assts. Spears (5x12fg) 12 pts, T. Kitson 8 rebs, B. Bennett 7 rebs, S. Sciera 10 rebs. Knights 28x74fg, 12x34 3s. Last Geneseo lead 32-30 with 4:19 left in half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gatoradio on November 30, 2005, 12:42:02 AM
Potsdam v. Plattsburg @ Welsh Gymnasium.  Bears home opener.  Arrived late due to prior obligations, and so I didn't get to see the first 8 minutes of the game.  Nothing impressive seemed to haved happened in that stretch according to my fellow fans - both teams seemingly playing unispired.  The Bears looked a little sluggish on the offensive end of things - not going all-out for rebounds, players not moving around away from the ball.  Plattsburgh likewise had difficulties getting settled into their offense, which was radically centered around Chris Gibbs-Smith - definitely a talented INDIVIDUAL, but not really  a team player.  After several time outs, he didn't even put a hand in when the team circled round for a quick chant to wrap up and regroup.  He did good in isolation, and taking it to the hole, driving into the lane, but didn't seem to mesh with the rest of the guys on the court, preferring to take the shot instead of dishing it off to an ungaurded player.  The Bears were able to effectively rotate defensive coverage amongst several players to keep out of foul trouble for the most part.  A couple of streaks for both teams to finish out the first half, Plattsburghs starting line having a distinct advantage in experience when Dobbs rotated in the second line leading to a 10-0 run for the Cards.
The Bears are demonstrating thus far to be a second half team.  There was additional spring in their step as they warmed into the second stanza.  Several players, notably freshman Brandon Siskavich is developing skills in posting up and working the interior of the offensive court, something which the Bears are still sporadic in their use of.  So far, it's been a disadvantage, especially since less fouls are drawn from jump shots and they haven't been able to exploit their excellent free throw percentage as much as they could be.
Midway through the second period the Bears were able to string together several consecutive scores, bringing the lead to around 10.  After this, the biggest factor in the game became foul shooting.  I'll have to leave the actual percentages to the statisticians on this one, but I'd figure that the Bears shoot about 80% from the charity stripe while the Cards faired not much better than 30%.  In a game with many whistles, it could have been a lot closer, but Plattsburgh couldn't buy a made foul shot to save their life, and some of the attempts were just plain ugly.  I hope that the Cards sincerely spend some time working on this aspect of the game in the upcoming weeks if they want to be able to compete in close games down the stretch.
The Bears main liabilities still lie in two areas, experience, and height.  Dobbs is working feverishly to bring the newer players along, and only time will demonstrate whether it will be in time to generate waves come the second hald of the season, and whatever games may lay beyond that for the Bears.  In terms of addressing the height shortage, rebounds are being tipped outward instead of upword, and this gives the Bears the edge back, as they are able to scrap away the loose ball with their quickness.
I still would like to see the Bears use this lack of size more to their advantage, making speed an integral part of their offense, moving without the ball, and passing through zone defenses instead of going around the horn to exploit 2 on 1 situations in the paint.  The complement needed to make that happen will be the maturing of at least 2 players to play the high/low post, and setting up plays to take advantage of the quick look in.  Who Dobbs chooses to do that will be up to him, but it's a facet that needs to become a part of the offense if the Bears want to stay with the top teams in the SUNYAC, as much as decent 3-point percentages have been on their side thus far.

The Bears go on to play Clarkson U on Thursday in a non-conference match at home.  The Golden Knights are a team that the Bears recently knocked off in a 4-team tournament a couple of weeks back.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gatoradio on November 30, 2005, 12:51:46 AM
Potsdam v. Plattsburg @ Welsh Gymnasium.  Bears home opener.  Arrived late due to prior obligations, and so I didn't get to see the first 8 minutes of the game.  Nothing impressive seemed to haved happened in that stretch according to my fellow fans - both teams seemingly playing unispired.  The Bears looked a little sluggish on the offensive end of things - not going all-out for rebounds, players not moving around away from the ball.  Plattsburgh likewise had difficulties getting settled into their offense, which was radically centered around Chris Gibbs-Smith - definitely a talented INDIVIDUAL, but not really what I'd surmise to be a team player.  After one time out, he didn't even put a hand in when the team circled round for a quick chant to wrap up and regroup.  He's definitely the go-to player for the Cards and can get the job done, but he's likewise got a temper that can both help and harm the Cards.  He did good in isolation, and taking it to the hole, driving into the lane, but didn't seem to mesh with the rest of the guys on the court, preferring to take the shot instead of dishing it off to another player.  The Bears were able to effectively rotate defensive coverage amongst several players to keep out of foul trouble for the most part.  A couple of streaks for both teams to finish out the first half, Plattsburgh's starting line having a distinct advantage in experience when Dobbs rotated in the second line leading to a 10-0 run for the Cards.

The Bears are demonstrating thus far to be a second half team.  There was additional spring in their step as they warmed into the second stanza.  Several players, notably freshman Brandon Siskavich is developing skills in posting up and working the interior of the offensive court, something which the Bears are still sporadic in their use of.  So far, it's been a disadvantage, especially since they draw less fouls from jump shots and therefore haven't been able to exploit their excellent free throw percentage as much as they could be.

Midway through the second period the Bears were able to string together several consecutive scores, bringing the lead to around 10.  After this, the biggest factor in the game became foul shooting.  I'll have to leave the actual percentages to the statisticians on this one, but I'd figure that the Bears shot about 80% from the charity stripe tonight while the Cards faired not much better than 30%.  In a game with many whistles, it could have been a lot closer, but Plattsburgh couldn't buy a foul shot to save their life, and some of the attempts were just plain ugly.  I sincerely hope that the Cards look at the game footage and then spend some time working on this aspect of the game in the upcoming weeks if they want to be able to legitimately compete in close games down the stretch.

The Bears main liabilities still lie in two areas: experience and height.  Dobbs is working feverishly to bring the newer players along, working them to full extension at practices.  Only time will demonstrate whether their development will be in time to generate waves come the second half of the season, and whatever games may lie beyond that for the Bears this years.  In terms of addressing the height shortage, rebounds are being tipped outward instead of upward, and this gives the Bears their edge back, as they are able to scrap away the loose ball with their quickness.

I still would like to see the Bears utilize their lack of size more to their advantage, making speed an integral part of their offense, moving without the ball, and passing through zone defenses instead of going around the horn to exploit 2 on 1 situations in the paint.  The complement needed to make that happen will be the maturing of at least 2 players to play the high/low post, and setting up plays to take advantage of the quick look in.  Who Dobbs chooses to do that will be up to him, but it's a facet that needs to become a part of the offense if the Bears want to stay with the top teams in the SUNYAC, as much as decent 3-point percentages have been on their side thus far.

The Bears will go on to play cross-town "rival" Clarkson U on Thursday in a non-conference match at home.  The Golden Knights are a team that the Bears recently knocked off in a 4-team tournament a couple of weeks back.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on November 30, 2005, 01:35:21 AM
tonight it was two good teams playing a great game potsdam vs plattsburgh potsdam came out on top and played the better game. it helps when the refs dont allow you to play defense on potsdam you couldnt tough the kids. and everyone always has something negative to say about chris gibbs and plattsburgh state chris shoots alot but hes suppose to everyone has a night like that and the season has just started there is much time for improvment potsdam played good and they one good job theres 22 games left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2005, 10:45:46 AM
New Paltz' 76-75 home win over Oneonta an OT affair. Settled with 0:02 left on B. Kaible's rebound and bucket. OState 35-34 halftime leader and needed S. Coffey's trey at 0:20 to reach extra frame at 67-67. NP up 65-60 at 1:24. Sr. g K. Crichlowff 17 pts (12 by half), 11 reb. M. Irwin 13 pts, J. Hawser 15 pts 9 assts, J. Richard 10 rebs. Coffey's 21 pts (11 1st half)pace OState whose J. Murphy nets 14 (10 1st half), K. Reed 15,  fr R. Morin 12 and 9 rebs, and M. Reardon 11 pts

Oswego (2-0) at Caz tonight. Potsdam home date and rematch vs. Clarkson on Thurs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on November 30, 2005, 11:42:52 AM
Bport puts up a game effort agaist cortland but falls 1 point short. Bport only had 8 players available for this game and still had a really good chance to win this game. It is pretty obvious that if the have to play with 8 players they will finish in the middle of the pack in sunyacs. When they get rother back and if or when they get harris and williams back they will be  the heavy favorites to win sunyacs. Bport has to play platts and oswego on the road coming up on back to back days and that could lead to a 0-3 start in sunyacs for the port. Teams better take there best shot at them early because they will be tough to beat later in the season. It was pretty obvious last night that bport was running on empty at the end of that game with only 8 players. They were up 5-6 pts on many occasions but just couldnt  extend the lead beyond that. After watching that game last night  i would say bport wins that game by at least 15 points with there full squad. Props to cortland for playing a good game and any W at bport is a good W.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on November 30, 2005, 01:39:20 PM
I didn't see the game, but from what I've heard it was a good one at the port.  Bports, good call about the depleted 8 man roster of port last night, and I do agree that Rother esp. will make a huge difference.  However, I remember port teams of the past playing hard all game without getting tired, and if u look at the box score... Cortland only played 8 players as well.  Good win for my boys at Cstate regardless.  Bport still my favorite hands down to represent the SUNYAC in the tourney, IF they stay out of trouble and on the court.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2005, 01:48:50 AM
Oswego goes to 3-0 in 95-66 Wednesday cruise at Cazenovia where A. Mims (7x10fg), M. Burridge (7x14fg) and N. Perioli (8x10fg) each nets 18 pts. Burridge with 7 rebs, Perioli 6 assts. K. Reuter 14 pts. Ten Lakers see at least 22' court time. Twas 46-30 at the break when Oswego connected 19x32 from the field and finished 36x62 including 8x16 3s.

New Paltz at home Wednesday slips to Vassar 79-74 in final of Mid-Hudson Tourney.  Hawks ahead 22-15 midway through first half. Vassar up 35-33 at half. With 12' left NP holds 50-49 edge on S. Lewis `3' and extends to 59-51 at 9' on B. Kaible trey. Vassar back in 72-69 control before NP J. Sugrue's only hoop, a `3' -- knots it at 72 at 0:42. Vassar quick to retake lead and hits closing ft's. J. Hauser 18 pts (2x4 3s, 10x12fts) pace NP. M. Irwin (4x6fg) 12 pts, 4 assts; K. Crichlow 11 pts; Kaible 9 pts (3x4 3s); Lewis 13 pts. Hawks 24x52fg; Vassar 42-33 reb margin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on December 01, 2005, 09:00:11 PM
Potsdam 79, Clarkson 61

Bears pull away in second half.  Sounded like the game was closer than final score would indicate.  I will be interested to see how Clarkson fares in the LL.  I think with their size they may surprise some people.

Bears now 4-0.


I knew I should have picked Potsdam in the d3hoops survivor pool.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 01, 2005, 10:17:04 PM
Unbearable

Since you & I are arguably two of the most loyal Potsdam fans in history, Even I wouldn't have done that this year. 

Lose 6 Seniors, including 4 All Conference players, + 2 yr starting point guard opted to concentrate on Academics

Reload with 8 frosh, a 5-7 JUCO, and a top draft pick from the Intramural League.

Play two games in Hawaii against Top 10 D-II team with a 6-10 and a 7 footer, and against a top 10 NAIA D-II team with several athletic 6-8's.

Catch a draw where they have to play Brockport on the road, only.

That's why even loyal old me didn't pick the Bears in the pool.

Clarkson is tall,  playing a lot of people and there doesn't seem to be any continuity or rhythm.  They will get handled regularly by any team with athletic inside players with decent size.  Barton ate them alive in the first three minutes of the second half.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2005, 01:45:47 PM
Friday's tests pit:
Buff St. (3-1,1-0) at One (1-2, 0-1)
Freds (2-2, 0-1) at Corts (3-1, 0-1)
Gens (1-2, 0-1) at Oswe (3-0, 0-0)
Bports (1-2, 0-1) at Platts (2-1, 0-1)

Saturday goes:
Buff St. at IT (2-1, 1-0)l
NPaltz (3-2, 1-0) at Pots (4-0, 1-0)
Bport at Osweg
Freds at One
Gens at Platts
Corts at Alfred, nl
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2005, 10:12:22 PM
Cortland takes down visiting Fredonia 65-48.

Red Dragons 4-1. Fast start and comfortable lead gets a bit hairy later. Freds, trailing 37-26 at half, within 44-39 and keep Cortlands in sight thereafter. F. Ranier keeps afloat home side, which struggles from the field in second half.  Late free throws allow Cortland to pull away. Dragons 15x32fg (4 3s) in first half and finish 22x49. Ranieri 15 pts. (6x10fg), 4 reb; D. Maggiacomo 14 pts (4x8 3s) off bench; R. Headley 13 pts (4x7fg), 6 reb; S. Taggart 6 reb, S. Skrelja 8 reb, 3 assts. Just 5 Cort TOvers. Spunky Freds led by T. Alassari 10 pts. (7x17fg), 8 rebs, 4 assts. Lone Fred in double figures. Fredonia loses big man K. Gordon early (8') to leg injury. Anderson 6 pts. (2x7fg), 3 reb. in 36'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2005, 10:44:54 PM
Oswego 67, Geneseo 60
Host Lakers out to 34-24 lead at half, forge 18 pt. lead in second period before Gens within 49-45. S. Sciera 19 pts. (7x8fg), T. Kitson 13 pts, 7 rebs; S. McDonnell 12 pts. in loss

Buffalo St. 88, Oneonta 72
James Williams 33 pts. (12x18 fg, 9x12ft, 9 rebs, 4 assts, 2 blks, 1 stl) paces Bengals.  Those numbers in 30' as 15 BSers take court. Buff St. 48-32 halftime command on 22x32fg shooting (finishes 33x62). D. Mozelle 14 pts. (6x7fg) only other Bengal in double figures. Has 5 rebs, 3 stls. Oneonta's J. Murphy 21 pts. (9x15fg). M. Reardon 4 assts. One 28x63fg (12x32 1st half)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2005, 11:35:03 PM
Brockport 85, Plattsburgh 79

Fredonia's Alassari 20 pts. stead of 10 in loss to Cortland. Kept 'em in the game with 3x8 3s and slashes
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on December 02, 2005, 11:42:14 PM
gibbs smith goes down in the first minute of the game with a rolled ankle coming down from a jumpshot tried to come back and play but was hurt and could not move after he came out it was a good back and forth game brockport came out on top
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on December 03, 2005, 09:12:21 AM
Good win on the road for Bport last night. Bport races out to a 12 pt 1st half lead and lead by 5 at the half. Bport got the lead back to 7 before platts went up by 2. Bport lead almost the entire game and had 9 guys suited up gor this game. The port is still missing 3 starters so we will see how fresh they are tonight at oswego? Amparo belluci and cheeves all had 20 pts or more for the eagles. If bport could come away from oswego with a W tonight it would be huge. I was worried they may start 0-3 in sunyacs with there  first three games being against all top tier sunyac competition. Especially with 2 on the road and missing some stud players. So far for the port the best surprise is the frosh pg filling in for harris. The kid looks like he is a very smart heads up player, who looks to get every player involved. He is from webster, but i am drawing a blank on his name  josh wenzel??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on December 03, 2005, 10:24:31 AM
solid win by cortland last night over fred.  don't let the 4-1 record fool you though, they are not THAT good.  i hope this team like many other span coached teams in the past get better as they go, esp. if they think they can contend in the tourney.  Two huge points of the game.... 1) Cortland needs a go to scorer.  not all game long, but when they go dry for mins on end and need a big bucket.  they can get away with it against a team like fred. but late in the year that wont fly against top conference comp.  2) fred. might not win a conference game!  with no size and very little skill, they are going to have to face a bad team on a bad night it looks like.  pt gaurd was the only stand out or even player worth watching on the roster.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2005, 11:55:34 AM
A few numbers from Bport win at Pburgh .....

K. Amparo's 24 points (17 1st half), 4 assts, 4 stls led the Eagles, who had 45-40 advantage at half, trailed 51-49, then led forever after at 11:14 on J. Cheves' trey. Cheves and D. Maldonado points keyed 66-57 breakaway by 9:30. Burghers close to 69-67 at 6' prior to Bport death spurt. B. Bellucci 18 pts, 4 assts; Cheves 19 pts, 9 rebs; J. Zenkel 6 assts, I. Mack 7 assts. -- team 24 assts in 30(x52) hoops!! Hit 9x17 3s. Pburgh 39-29 reb. edge. Cards' M. Deitz 23 pts (9x13fg, 5x7 3s); T. Gorham 17 pts. (6x9fg), 10 rebs. Ankle-weary K. Gibbs-Smith 23' and 1x5fg, 7 rebs.  definitely a factor for better (Bport) or worse (Burgh).
Bports only played seven, so at least a pair fresh for Oswegos. Really question why young men of this age can't play (hoops) well into the night, let alone back to back. Don't buy the tired bit.

As for Cortland (obviously our rooting interest), it's true TSpan hasn't yet found the combination. Has many, many options (even without The King), and is tinkering. Should actually be 5-0 (barring that dreaded 4-pointer vs. good Trinity). Dragons last night in second half fell in love with 3-point onslaught after lighting it up earlier. Point slot still a ??, though several able candidates. Transfer E. Nalls steady and currently starts. D. Fish okay but doesn't offer much offensively. Don't know M. Schaller's status. Played fb and was supposed to bolster backcourt when eligible.

As per Fredonia, yes in what appears a pretty balanced SUNYAC the BDevils could be pressed for wins. Still, mighty pesky. Alassari all-star but has to carry too big a load. He's a delight to watch. Freds hurt last night when K. Gordon (6-5 soph) went down after running the floor for layup in first half. Also, 6-6 frosh David Mack gave 'em plenty of good minutes (20). 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on December 03, 2005, 12:46:09 PM
jdex - Why young men can't play into the night...

The SUNYAC is a conference where a premium is placed on tough, physical defense. JC transfers to the league consistently report that the most difficult transition is to accomodate to the speed of the game and the mental pressure of playing tough, every-possession defense at this level. For incoming frosh, particularly for those coming out of Class B or lower programs, the leap is enormous.

Last year's Potsdam team was classic SUNYAC. Their leading scorer averaged 11.0 - hardly impressive for an Elite 8 team. However, they only gave up 62.9 ppg by running in waves of fresh, focused defenders.

If you need a blow, you either get it on the offensive end or on the bench - and if you take it on the defensive end, you'll soon be on the bench in any case.

No question these young men have the physical stamina for lots of minutes. Staying mentally focused on every defensive possession is draining and takes time and experience to handle.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2005, 03:10:26 PM
Well stated, Bearseh. We could buy into that, mental toughness and all.  Teams in the same boat playing back to back for the most part. Of course, the exception is the bye team in the odd-numbered SUNYAC. And then there's the depth factor, and degree of difficulty from first night to second. No doubt, Bport numbers (and its annual early road show sked) could be costly at the moment. And we said in the same boat?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bj5485 on December 03, 2005, 05:47:10 PM
Potsdam overcomes ten point first half deficit to beat New Paltz 84-60. Bears go to 5-0.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2005, 07:54:55 PM
SUNYIT 95, Buffalo St. 90
Oneonta 67, Fredonia 54, ot
Plattsburgh 71, Geneseo 54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on December 03, 2005, 07:55:48 PM
If you have info on Brockport @ Oswego, please post.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 03, 2005, 08:14:26 PM
That's scheduled as an 8:00 game.  Nice road trip, Brockport to Plattsburgh, then back to Oswego (through a blizzard) then on to Brockport (through more blizzards)!!!

SUNYIT upsetting Buff State is a shocker.  Looks like the Murph is showing his longevity stripes already.  Game didn't look like a whole lot of defense was played, but they sure lit up the scoreboard!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2005, 08:19:22 PM
SUNYIT stays among SUNYAC unbeatens by gunning down guest Buffalo State 95-90. A 48-48 halftime tilt on Tech 12-2 finish. Utica took final lead with 4:12 to play in the game. A 91-90 game at 0:47 before FTs wrapped up verdict. C. Reaves quite the Tech Superman, 31 pts (11x20fg, 3x6 3s, 6x11ft), 9 assts, 5 stls in 36' of work. C. Bien-Aime 17 pts. (3x8 3s), JP Adams 13 pts (5x11fg), C. Plante 10 pts. Tech 32x70fg, 10x27 3s, 21x27ft. edge. Career game for BState's G. Jones: 33 pts (12x24fg, 7x14 3s!), 5 rebs in 35'. J. Williams adds 19 pts. (9x20fg), 8 reb, 7 BLKS, 2 assts; D. Mozelle 11 pts (5x9fg), 6 rebs; J. Tirado 10 pts (6x10ft). BS 34x79fg, 11x26 3s

Oneonta never trailed in home OT conquering of Fredonia, whose M. Kelly trey at 0:08 of reg. extended matters at 51-51. Then all Dragons. OState in 27-24 lead at intermission. Teams never separated by double figures till OT. OState up 47-38 at 4:44 and seven ahead at 1:55. J. Murphy 16 pts (7x15fg, 6 rebs, 4 blks, 2 stls, 2 assts in 33' in win. S. Coffey 13 pts.; M. Reardon 11 pts. (4x6fg, 2x3 3s), 7 rebs. OState 26x57fg. For Freds, Alassari 14 pts. (5x14fg), 4 stls; Kelly 14 pts. (5x9fg, 2x6 3s) 3 assts, 3 stls. Freds 21 TVers, 18x57fg

In Potsdam's 84-60 north country victory vs. New Paltz, Bears in 45-35 lead at half after trailing by 10 midway into period before 11-1 run. Hold 27 point lead twice. Shoot 36x68fg (20x38 1st half). E. Barton 18 pts (10 1st half), 12 rebs; D. Bisesi 16 pts, 4 assts; B. Siskavich 14 pts (10 1st half). NP's J. Hauser 16 pts, 8 rebs; shoot 23x60fg, 24 TOvers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 03, 2005, 08:29:47 PM
Potsdam NP game - Dobbs did a great coaching job.  

After a NP run put the hawks up 22-12 with 12:00 left in the first half, Dobbs called a TO, put in his entire second team, 1 JUCO, 1 career backup, 1 Jr drafted from the intramural league and two freshmen.  They went on a 12-1 run in the next three minutes to turn the tide.  Potsdam went on to a 10 point half time lead, and extended throughout the second half.  Dobbs emptied the bench with 2:33 left.

Potsdam got half their points from new players, over half the minutes.  Barton had a monster game 18 pts 12 rebs on 8x12 FG in 22 minutes.  Point guard Dave Bisesi had 16 points & 4 assists in 25 minutes.

6'7 frosh Brandon Siskavich had a breakout game as he showed some excellent ball skills, and a sweet mid range jump shot to tally 14 pts on 7x10 and 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals in 20 minutes of court time.

Potsdam had 12 players play at least 8 minutes, and won the battle of the boards 42-37, forced 24 turnovers and held the Hawks to 38% FG 26% 3 FG.

Potsdam makes their first trip out of Potsdam next weekend, facing
two Empire 8 clubs, at Alfred U. on Friday, then on to Ithaca Saturday afternoon in a 4PM tilt.  

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2005, 10:16:34 PM
Cortland exerts mental toughness, actually sharpshooting skills, to down Alfred, 86-76, on the road. Goes to 5-1 with fifth straight, shooting 33x54 (9x20 3s). Pivot S. Taggart 24 pts. (11x12fg), 6 rebs. Four others score double figures: D. Maggiacomo 13 (3x7 3s); S. Skrelja 12, 7 rebs; D. Jutton 12 (4x8 3s); F. Ranieri 10, 4 rebs, 3 assts; D. Fish 5 assts, E. Nalls 5 assts. Dragons lead 46-42 in close first half, extend to 13 seven minutes into 2nd period, hike to 15 and withstand Alfred rush to 7 at 2:52. Maggiacomo `3' repellant. R. Hallett 24 pts. (4 3s) for 2-3 Saxons, who had won two in a row
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2005, 10:24:46 PM
Oswego storms past Brockport, 92-77
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 03, 2005, 10:44:11 PM
That score puts the Lakers as the team to beat in the SUNYAC this year.  Perioli, Mims, Burridge, all potential A/C players,

Funny - SUNYAC seems to be more high scoring this year than in the past?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2005, 11:52:28 PM
Oswego shakes free of Brockport  in second half. Leads 50-49 following first. What a balanced display by starters. All score double figures and take all but eight shots during 37x76fg effort. A. Mims 18 (7x15fg), 10 rebs; M. Burridge 17 (8x15fg), 6 rebs; T. Franze 17 (7x12fg), 8 rebs, 5 assts; N. Perioli 16 (7x15fg), 6 stls in second straight 40' test; K. Reuter 14 (5x11), 3 stls. Only 4 TOvers to Bport's 16. Outboarded 42-34. Eagles' B. Bellucci 25 pts. (8x17fg, 3x4 3s), 10 rebs, 3 assts in 27'; K. Amparo 20 pts (10x15fg), 6 rebs, 3 assts in 28'; D. Rubertone 15 pts (7x13fg), 8 rebs in 35'; D. Maldonado 12 pts (4x8 3s), 5 rebs. J. Cheves held in check (3 pts, 1x8fg, 1x6 3s) in 35'.

For Oswego in Friday's win vs. Geneseo, N. Perioli and M. Burridge 16 pts. each, Reuter 13, Franze 10
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on December 04, 2005, 11:42:39 AM
Im not really happy about the port being 1-2 in the conf, but it was very easy to see it coming. They probably started with the toughest 3 game stretch of any sunyac team? Home against cortland , at plattsburgh and at oswego. It sure would have been nice to start with geneseo, fredonia, and lets say NP.  Bport will be on the road some more with games at #5 york, and at #24 catholic for a tourney. These games along with playingall but one game first semester on the road is what whitmore does every year to get his team ready for the sunyac tourney. Its to bad a few players made a bad decision and it will most likely cost them the 1st semester. With that said and the addition of rother this team will be loaded  and will have something to prove in the 2nd semester. Having 9 guys suit up is not to favorable for whitmores system. Especially when 2 of those 9 would not see the court other wise. Whitmore likes to use about 10-12 players all about 18-28 min a game. Even when he had mills, medburry, etc they only played about 25 min a game. This frosh pg from webster is filling in nice for harris but bports defensive pressure all starts up top with a lightning quick harris and that is what this team is missing. Oh well it is what it is .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 04, 2005, 01:52:54 PM
A big shout to the new SID at Plattsburgh, Patrick Stewart!

Patrick did an outstanding job at McMurry in the ASC for 2 1/2 years, covering 19 sports and providing background to the local media, and on the McMurry website.  In addition to the background material for 10 football games, nearly 50 basketball (men's and women's) games and about 15 baseball games that were broadcast on radio each year, he occcasionally had to provide background material to an occasional locally-televised football or basketball game as well.

Plattsburgh is getting a good one.  We hate to lose him, but send him our best wishes!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: haterinthehouse on December 05, 2005, 07:55:59 AM
haterinthehouse
Junior Varsity



Re: SUNYAC
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2005, 02:48:40 pm »   

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I believe SUNY-IT will make a big jump this season-I am not saying that they will contend for the sunyac title or finish 1,2, or 3 but they will be much improved.  They have a few juco transfers from CCC, Herkimer, and Mohawk Valley that were all region players that will instantly make them better.  And with Murphy you never know what can happen 

ummmmm....It seems like I remember saying that SUNY IT would be much improved this season (refer to my statment above), but so many of you chose to laugh at me.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on December 05, 2005, 03:43:29 PM
plattsburgh beats geneseo badly without gibbs smith good team effort the young kids are really stepping up antwan miller is playing well as well as dietz jared dumont was 5 for 7 from the three point line plattsburgh will be just fine as the season rolls on they will be a top four team in the sunyac going into the playoffs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on December 05, 2005, 04:42:05 PM
haterinthehouse it is a little early to start boasting about your prediction. sunyit may very well be better this tear but who have they played? They lost to utica and then they beat albany school of pharmacy. They also beat a geneseo team that was picked to finish 10th out of 12 teams in sunyac, and a buff st team that was picked to finish in the middle of the pack.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on December 05, 2005, 05:31:50 PM
May our favorite dieties smite us if the posts here get as personally demeaning as those in the Empire 8 - particularly when all we reasonably know, after a couple of league matchups, is that the league, as always, has several weak (possibly horrrible) teams, several rock solid clubs,  a couple of maybes, and at at least one-who-the-hell knows.

Re: SUNY IT, I'm reminded of Richard Farina's "Been down so long, it looks like up to me".
But it is refreshing that one can finally write a positive IT post without a prior need for therapy.

On the other hand, anyone with a "haterinhtehouse" tag may need the occasional hand grenade dropped down his/her shorts/bloomers. But welcome aboard - it's likely to be a wild ride.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on December 05, 2005, 07:14:55 PM
It's still early to tell how the conference is going to shake out. Most teams are wrapping up their first semester schedules and the bulk of the conference play isn't going to happen until January.

As per SUNYIT, considering how bad that team was last year WITH Nick Grimmer and Rich Phillips, a 3-1 start overall and a 2-0 conference record is something to be happy about. I think time will tell how good this team really is when they get into the meat of their conference schedule starting January 10 at New Paltz. I'll actually get to see SUNYIT tomorrow night when they play at Hamilton. It will be Coach Tom Murphy's return to Hamilton for the first time since he was asked to retire at the end of the 2003-2004 season.

Elsewhere, Buffalo State's another surprise. Sure the Bengals were picked to finish in the middle of the conference, but they've been putting some serious points on the board. If anything, they're improved over last year's team that barely eeked into the playoffs in Dick Bihr's final year. Fans out at BSC have a lot to be excited about this winter.

Cortland, Potsdam and Oswego are all off to great starts as well. Cortland has won five straight heading into their game tomorrow night with Ithaca at Ben Light. Potsdam I thought would be down slightly this year after graduating so much talent. But, Ernst Ducena has really emerged for the Bears and helped them stay undefeated. Oswego will contend atop the SUNYAC again even without Ponza. Lakers made a statement on Saturday night putting 92 on Brockport after leading by one at the half. Line of the night on Saturday from Brockport coach Nelson Whitmore on WBSU at halftime.

Interviewer: Coach, what did you guys do right in the first half?

Whitmore: (Slight sarcastic tone) Well, we gave up 50 points.

Oneonta and Plattsburgh both have struggled in the early part of the season. I'm a little disappointed Jelani Simmons didn't return to Plattsburgh after seeing him put on an offensive showcase against Potsdam in the SUNYAC Semis last February. The transfers need time to get used to each other and I see the Cardinals finishing in the lower part of the middle half, probably 6th or 7th. Oneonta's 2-3 but after this weekend playing in the Hartwick tournament could be back over .500. OT loss to New Paltz doesn't help the Dragons but last year they started slow and finished the season with a flurry.

Cheap plug...Hamilton vs. SUNYIT tomorrow night on D3hoopsNet. 7:45pm EST for the pre-game, 8:00pm for game time. SUNYIT enters fresh off their five point upset of Buff State in Utica against local rival and undefeated Hamilton. Coach Murphy's return to the Scott Field House. Doesn't get better than that.

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 05, 2005, 08:18:23 PM
I'm a little disappointed Jelani Simmons didn't return to Plattsburgh after seeing him put on an offensive showcase against Potsdam in the SUNYAC Semis last February.  

John - a little revisionist history re; Last years SUNYAC semis.  Who put on the offensive showcase?

Eldon Harris 25 pts 11 rebounds 2 blocks 2 steals

Jelani Simmons 18 pts 5 rebounds 8 blocks

The Cardinals will be just fine.  Travis Gorham is a steady solid presence in the post, he rebounds, sets picks, plays defense, and scores when the opportunity is there.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2005, 08:41:08 PM
And, Mac, it was one year ago, almost to the day, when Tech (and ass't coach Murphy) tripped Hamilton 75-72. One guy of whom Continentals will surely keep tabs is Bien-Aime -- 24 pts, 4x5 3s in that contest
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2005, 11:18:43 AM
Six tipping tonight against outsiders ......

2-2 Naz at 5-0 Oswego
5-1 Corts at 0-4 IC
3-1 Utica Tech at 5-0 Hamilton
2-1 SJF at 2-4 Fredonia
2-3 Geneseo at 2-3 Alfreds
3-3 NPaltz at 1-2 Old Westbury

Two on Wed. nl stage .....

2-3 Bports at 4-3 RobtsWes
2-3 Plattsburghers at 2-4 Clarkson
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2005, 09:55:41 PM
Cortland barely, 57-55 at Ithaca. Tight first half. Maggiacomo threes boost Red Dragons to 28-23 halftime lead. Corts answer every IC approach thereafter, but never able to pull away. Lead 46-39 on Ranieri hoop at 8:26 (IC within 47-45) and up 51-45 on another Ranieri bucket at 2:30 (IC within 51-48 at 0:40). Jutton ft makes it 53-48. IC at 53-50 at :23 and then 54-52 before Maggiacomo two ft's and Jutton ft. IC buzzer trey from halfcourt
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2005, 10:17:40 PM
Oswego 68, Nazareth 66
Hamilton 88, SUNYIT 75
Old Westbury 72, New Paltz 62
St. John Fisher 76, Fredonia 67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2005, 10:45:34 PM
Alfred 78, Geneseo 73

Gens in 23-23 knot when Alfred took 37-29 halftime lead. FTs difference: Saxons 25x30, Gen 11x21. G. Spears 16 pts (6x12fg), 9 rebs; J. Papincak 12 pts (5x10fg). Alfred's D. Stein 10 pts, 4 stls, 4 rebs; R. McCarter 14 pts (10x10ft), T. Dersham 14 pts.

SUNYIT trails host Hamilton 44-31 at the break. Conts 18x39fg at half and finish 33x69 (10x25 3s). Tech 30x80fg (13x37 half). Goes 10x27 3s. IT 46-45 reb edge. C. Reaves 24 pts (10x24fg, 3x7 3s) in 39' for Uticans. C. Bien-Aime 14 pts (4x8 3s) in 23'; A. Gilkes 11 pts., 15 rebs; C. Plante 10 pts. Tech just 5x16ft to Hams 12x14. In win, T. Welchons 22 pts. (8x20fg, 4x9 3s); N. Jones 18 pts, 11 rebs; T. Ngobeni 13 pts (6x7fg)

Fredonia beaten (21x56fg, 12x28 3s). T. Anderson 20 pts (5x12fg), C. Donahue 16 pts (5x11fg). Fisher leads 44-28 at half and is led by S. O'Brien 23 pts (8x14fg, 5x10 3s)

New Paltz  tumbles, shoots 22x42fg and in 28-24 hole at break. J. Richards 14 pts. (5x5fg), 10 rebs; K. Crichlow 13 pts, M. Irwin 10 pts. Hawks with 28 TOvers

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2005, 11:18:56 PM
Cortland wins sixth straight in unimpressive style. Had hands full with winless IC, something the Red Dragons have previously experienced, especially at Ben Light. Corts were swept by IC last season.
FT salvation tonight for Corts -- 19x27 at stripe to hosts' 5x7. Neither side gets much going offensively (Corts 4x13 3s to IC's 4x15). Cortland 17x41fg, IC 23x62. Cortland 37-31 reb advantage but with 15 TOvers and mere 8 assts. IC 16 assts (J. Whetstone 5) and 12 steals. Still, four CStates in double figures: F. Ranieri 11 (5x11fg), D. Maggiacomo 11 (2x6 3s), R. Headley 10 (6x7ft), D. Jutton 10. S. Skrelja 12 rebs. IC's J. Bellis 14 pts, B. Andruskiewicz 12

Oswego 6-0. Trails Naz second half till A. Mims layup+ft at 4:21 for 61-60 lead. Naz hoop for 62-61 edge. N. Perioli 3pter boosts OState by 64-62. Mims ft's at 0:29 makes it 68-66. Naz misses twice on final possession. M. Burrdige 21 pts for victors, Perioli 14, E. Robertson 12, Mims 11. Naz/ J. Canori 15, T. Smith 12
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2005, 10:25:29 PM
Plattsburgh on road roughs up Clarkson 72-51. Down 15-12, Cards on 16-3 run enroute to 36-24 bulge at half. Start second frame 12-0 for 48-24 doubling up of Knights. Burghers 23x45fg (12x21 1st half), 5x13 3s, 12 stls. A. Williams 22 pts (6x10fg, 2x3 3s), 5 assts; B. Hatch 12 pts (5x8fg); A. Miller 10 pts, 9 rebs. Clarkson 9x28fg opening half, finish 18x56. B. Dudek 10 pts, EJ Harrison 10 pts, J. Chiero 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2005, 10:33:59 PM
Brockport whips Roberts Wesleyan 95-82 in Rochester. B. Bellucci (13x19fg) 30 pts, 10 rebs, 7 assts, 3 stls in 35'. Eagles hold 39-35 halftime lead, go 34x73fg for the game. D. Rubertone 18 pts (6x14fg), 11 rebs, 4 stls; J. Zenkel 17 pts (6x7fg, 3 stls, 5 rebs; J. Cheves 10 pts. For RW A. Evans 28 pts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on December 08, 2005, 12:35:22 AM
plattsburgh smacks clarkson by 19 gibb smith misses another game with that ankle sprain anthony williams steps up and antwon miller is playing very well
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2005, 10:16:57 AM
Nice win for the Cards on the road.  Cards developing depth and other scoring options.  Dietz will be a player in this league.  What's the prognosis on the G-S ankle?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2005, 12:11:32 AM
Fredonia ends four game losing ways with 58-58 triumph at Pitt-Bradford. In charge at half 29-26. T. Anderson 13 pts. (5x10fg, 1x2 3s); T. Alassari 10 pts, 11 rebs, 6 assts in 36'; D. Watkins 10 pts; K. Reichlmayr 8 rebs. Freds 22x45fg (8x22 3s) and 37-24 board gap. Game matched coaching brothers, Kevin with Freds, Andy PB, which had been averaging 87ppg. Devils limited top gun R. Race (28ppg) to 14
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on December 09, 2005, 01:44:08 AM
GIBBS SMITH ANKLE IS JUST A SPRAIN HE MIGHT BE BACK THIS SATURDAY AGAINST  GREEN MOUNTAIN BUT NOTHING SERIOUS BUT POSSIBLY SATURDAY BUT THEIR CHRISTMAS TOURNAMENT FOR SURE
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2005, 05:24:55 PM
Conference fives in non-conf action Friday:
Buff St. tourney vs. Hilbert (D'Youville vs. Medaille)
SJF at Geneseo
Oswego at RIT tourney vs. Wilkes (RIT vs. NY York)
Potsdam at Alfred


And on Saturday:
Buff St. tourney finals
Oswego at RIT tourney finals
Penn St. Behred at Fredonia
John Jay at New Paltz
Oneonta tourney at Hartwick (Fitchburg vs. LI St. Joe's). Sunday windup at 'Wick
Green Mtn at Plattsburgh
Potsdam at Ithaca
SUNYIT at Utica Coll




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2005, 05:35:54 PM
Anyone aware of Utica Techies' sleds arriving from Paul Smith's yet? About 24 hrs. and counting! Or ......did Techies' sleighs even attempt to reach no. country for Thursday's contest/mismatch?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 09, 2005, 09:27:15 PM
Sled arrived.  Result not terribly impressive, but a W is a W.

You will recall Paul Smiths trailed Wilkes 45-1 in the first half of the consy at the North Country Invitational at Clarkson.  Credit the Plattsburgh Press-Republican for the following.


PAUL SMITHS -- Paul Smith's College made a late run at SUNYIT Tuesday before the Wildcats, the early surprise of SUNYAC basketball, pulled away to an 84-66 victory in men's basketball.

The Bobcats (5-9) drew to within 7 with 6½ minutes to play, but SUNYIT nailed two baskets and forced Paul Smith's to turn the ball over.

"I was pleased with our effort; we had a shot at it," Paul Smith's Coach Mark Cartmill said.

"We played very well; I was pleased that we were in the game until the last 2 or 3 minutes."

SUNYIT (4-2) already has knocked off Geneseo and Buffalo State in SUNYAC play.

Junior guard Chris Reaves scored 26 points to lead the Wildcats with J.P. Adams tossing in 19.

Jimmy Noel had 6 rebounds and Thompson, 6 assists, for the Bobcats, who will close out the semester at home with SUNY Canton at 1 p.m. Saturday.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2005, 10:23:34 PM
Buffalo State easily over Hilbert 82-66 in BS tourney. Plays Medaille (57-48 over D'Youville) in Sat final. Eleven Bengals saw at least 11' court time in rout. G. Jones 21 pts (7x13fg), 5 reb, 3 assts, 3 stls in 28'; J. Tirado 10 pts in 22'. BS 39-26 at intermission; pops at 27x61fg rate, 25x33ft. Hilbert 29 TVers

Oswego ppd. at RIT tourney. Seems Wilkes thwarted by weather. Lakers face NY York at 3 p.m. Saturday, then RIT Sun at 3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2005, 11:21:48 PM
Potsdam drops its first when homestanding Alfred seizes 72-66 verdict. Alfs lead 34-30 at half and finish 24x29ft and outboard Bears 37-29. E. Barton 17 pts (6x15fg), 6 assts, 5 stls in 38'; D. Taft 12 pts (4x5fg), D. Bisesi 10 pts (3x11fg, 0x5 3s). Four Saxons in double figures led by T. Dersham 16

Geneseo beaten 75-61 at home by Fisher. Gens up 38-37 at half when both sides shoot 16x27 from field. Hosts cool to 7x18 in final period. Fisher finishes 28x49fg and scores first 10 points of second half. G. Spears 18 pts (14 1st half), S. McDonnell 15 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cantbestopped on December 09, 2005, 11:49:09 PM
A little prediction Buff State wins their tourney by 35 tomorrow, medaille sucks and hilbert was sadly the 2nd best team in that tourney, dyouville just stinks and thats why medaille is playing buff state for the tourney ship, but it wont be close
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 10, 2005, 05:29:13 PM
I get home from doing some Xmas shopping, turn on the Ithaca/Potsdam game and hear "...makes the 2nd foul shot and the lead is now 81-47." I immediately think Potsdam is destroying Ithaca. Then, the color guy says, "Very impressive performance by the Bombers today." I almost dropped my laptop. What in god's name happened? Did Barton and the rest of the starters get benched or something. Wow, that's crazy.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on December 10, 2005, 05:40:39 PM
Wow.  Tough road trip for the Bears.  Love to hear some analysis from anyone who was there.

I figured a young team might struggle in their first trip outside of town, but I wasn't expecting this.

Perhaps Wilkes and Plattsburgh are overrated?

Congrats to Ithaca and Alfred.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on December 10, 2005, 06:06:43 PM
how is it that you say plattsburgh could be overrated because potsdam gets smacked. is it because plattsburgh lost to them early in the season potsdam played good and plattsburgh didnt. and you guys talk about barton like he is amazing or something he is a descent player nothin spectacular when they are not hitting threes they wont win that many conference games we will see where the teams stand about 16 games into the season potsdam is overrated thats the problem!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on December 10, 2005, 06:14:03 PM
Wow, I hate to call people on grammar or spelling on these boards but, ILOVEBALL, easy with the run-on sentences. If I were reading your post aloud, I would have run out of breath about four times.

Unbearable, the box score is not up yet but the release says Ithaca hit a school record 15 treys. I'm sure that had something to do with the margin of victory but the radio guys were making it sound like Potsdam couldn't throw it in the ocean from the dock. Like you said, young teams will have those games on the road and Ithaca is a tough team at home...not so much when they're on the road, though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2005, 06:57:28 PM
Ithaca 90, Potsdam 52 (B. Joe 23 pts with 7 3s; IC school record 15 treys). In today's game, light-it-up from outside and you have a chance. Bellis is known 3pt sharpshooter -- and it's Joe who's a bit out of the ordinary on this day.

New Paltz 75, John Jay 60

SUNYIT tumbles 80-72 to Utica College whose Pioneers 27x53fg (11x16 3s). UC 38-29 at the break. For Tech C. Laboard 16 pts (10x14ft), 5 reb; C. Bien-Amie 14 pts (5x8fg, 3x5 3s) 4 assts; A. Gilkes 12 pts, 15 reb; C. Reaves 11 pts (4x11fg). UC's D. Herring 21 pts. leads double figure quartet. Winners with 24 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 10, 2005, 06:58:40 PM
The good news for Potsdam and its fans is they don't play again until January, by which point today's beating should be out of their heads completely.  I'll bet they put a hurting on Worcester State in that first game back.

Ithaca shot about 55% from three-point land today.  Not a whole heck of a lot Potsdam coulda done when the Bombers were that hot.

Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you....pun may or may not be intended.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 10, 2005, 07:09:53 PM
Wasn't at the game, but obvious props to the Bombers for a decisive win.

Looking at the box, several keys:

Threes IC 15x27, Potsdam 6x20.  

Obviously IC was getting open looks, and on their home court, they shot (pun intended) Lights Out.

Rebounding, IC 41 Potsdam 26.  Potsdam is starting a freshman at Center, and he will be tested.  Barton played 38 minutes against Alfred in a game that ended 18 hours before.  

Turnovers IC 10, Potsdam 16.  

Minutes by starters Potsdam 98, IC 128,

With the game out of hand early, Dobbs must have decided to see what his newcomers were made of.  For 10 of these players, it was the first road trip of their career other than a van across town for the first two games of the season.

Also, IC most certainly wanted to win one for the Gipper (Mullins), and remembered last season's painful loss at Potsdam, where IC blew an 18 point second half lead to lose in OT.

Seeing what #1 Duke did to #2 Texas, basketball is a funny game, you can beat a team by 30 or 40, and in the return game, it may go down to the wire.  

Again, lots of respect for IC in reversing their season opening donut.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on December 10, 2005, 08:35:08 PM
ILOVEBALL,

Let me explain what I meant. It is still early in the season, and people in every region are trying to figure out which teams are the strongest.  When a team is 5-0 and drops two on the road to teams that were 3-3 and 1-6, respectively, it makes any unbiased observer question how tough the previous competition was.  With so few games played to this point, there are always a few teams which are probably better than their record would indicate, especially if they've played tough out-of-region or DII teams, and a few undefeateds who might not be as strong as you might think.

Potsdam beat Wilkes, who, from what I can gather, was the preseason pick in the MAC Freedom League.  They also beat Clarkson twice, New Paltz, and Plattsburgh.

Clearly, anyone can beat anyone on a given night.  However, I think as the season progresses, we will all have the opportunity to see who the strongest teams are, and to evaluate the entire body of work, as it were.

I also really get a kick out of how you repeatedly dismiss the reigning SUNYAC tournament MVP as "average" or "nothing special".  Could it be that your frustration at never beating the Bears in your career is getting the best of you?

Hope your ankle gets better soon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 11, 2005, 01:49:53 AM
Plattsburgh 82, Green Mountain 39. Cards 5-2. A. Williams 11 pts paces balanced rout

Oneonta 61, Hartwick 55 in opening round of 'Wick tourney. S. Coffey 24 pts (5x12fg, 4x8 3s), M. Reardon 10 pts including trey at halftime buzzer for 28-25 lead. OState pulls away 45-37 but 'Wick pulls close before 53-44 pullaway at 2' mark. Dragons 20x46fg, 6x15 3s and challenge NY St. Joe's in Sunday final. Joe's over Fitchburg 84-69.

Fredonia loses 72-58 to PS Behrend, whose 6-7 soph center Kevin Buczynski goes for 41 pts. (14x21fg, 13x14ft), 10 rebs. PS-B 33-26 edge at half, then up 41-28. T. Anderson 15 pts (6x12fg), 4 assts, 2 stls; M. Kelly 13 pts (3x4 3s). Freds 18x42fg, outboarded 31-20. PS-B 5-1, Freds 3-6

Buffalo St. 97, Medaille 74 in BS tourney final. Bengals just 40-39 halftime control in sixth win in eight starts. Shoot 40x75fg led by mvp J. Williams 30 pts. (13x22fg), 8 rebs in 28'. All tourney G. Jones 17 pts, all tourney D. Mozelle 17 rebs, 12 pts. (6x10fg); J. Tirado 16 pts (7x11fg), 8 reb, 4 assts. Medaille's J. McNeil 30 pts. (12x26 fg). Medaille 12x36 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on December 11, 2005, 10:36:06 AM
could be that i am waiting to beat them, but barton is good but he is always talked about like he is so amazing. he s alright  but i dont see it like the way he is talked about but we will see how everything pans out in the end of the season. he just never worked out against plattsburgh so i have to see it first so we play them again maybe then i will ge to see something that impresses me
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on December 11, 2005, 04:20:46 PM
Losing to Ithaca at Ben Light should surpise no one.  This team has a well earned rep for playing tough at home. Losing by 38? That's a surprise.

I saw it and here's my take. Prior to the 2 road losses this weekend, Potsdam was 5-0 and had played well against Wilkes (at Clarkson), and at home v. Plattsburg. Two wins v. Clarkson and win v. New Paltz don't mean much. Playing at Clarkson (Wilkes & Clarkson) is the next best thing to a home game for Potsdam and both the Knights and New Paltz are currently weak squads.

Even at 5-0, Potsdam weaknesses were suggested in their stats over those games:

1. Mediocre team defense, particularly compared to previous years
2. Mediocre team rebounding (had less than a +1 advantage)
3. Horrible team FT %

You all know what it takes to win on the road: team defense, rebounding, and you must get to the line and convert. That didn't happen at Alfred or Ithaca.

Ithaca took advantage of 1. and 2. above to the tune of 15 3's. Some were defended but many were off wide open looks. Bombers also totally uncovered the fundemental problems with the Bears: No experience on the front line, lack of a true point, and no vocal floor leadership at eiher end.

Ithaca's big forward had a great day: sets a pick down low, steps out beyond the arc, nobody goes with him, hits an open three, freshman defender goes to the bench.  The sub (not a frosh but a 1st yr player) doesn't box out, goes to the bench. Next sub is a frosh and neither defends or boxes out but there's no else to go to. When they tried giving help, Brian Joe filled it up. Bombers beat Bears down court for good looks or to defend; no easy baskets for Potsdam. You needed to see this unfold to fully appreciate S. Dobbs frustration.

Offensively, No one is fully in charge on the floor. Bisesi is certainly fun to watch and will be a force in SUNYAC before he's done. Now, I believe he's a much better 2 than 1 - but there is, currently, no one else.

The boards speak for themselves: Bears played small most of the day: Ithaca +15.

Potsdam continues to play 9 - 10 people 10+ minutes. May not be able to continue to this and win. They don't have the horsepower and really need to give their 1st year big men game minutes to develop. It won't be pretty until they learn to play - and play hard - at this level.

Finally, this group looked emotionally wasted on Saturday. One or two people on this team need to step up and take names offensively and defensively or it will be a long, long season for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 11, 2005, 09:01:10 PM
Oswego, last of SUNYAC unbeatens, goes down to RIT, 79-63,  in final of latter's tourney. Tight until late. Tech 35-29 at the half. Lakers lead 49-48 on 3pt N. Perioli at 11' before RIT 14-3 push. Oswego 25x69fg. M. Burridge 16 pts, 5 reb; A. Mims 14 pts, 8 reb; Perioli 9 pts (4x13fg), 6 assts in 40'. Oswego 7-1. RIT 4-1 and led by T. Bacon 21 pts, 15 reb; B. Zeinfeld 17 pts, F. Snyder 10 pts. Hosts Cortland Tues.

Oneonta tops LI St. Joe's 60-54 for Hartwick tourney crown. Overcomes 28-23 half deficit. R. Morin ft puts OState up 52-51 at 3', follows with hoop and S. Coffey clinches with four ft. Coffey event mvp with second straight 24 pt game. Adds 9 rebs. J. Murphy, Morin 8 pts each. Dragons 5-4, Joe's 3-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on December 12, 2005, 05:39:34 PM
Bearseh,

Thanks for your insights.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 14, 2005, 12:08:44 AM
Cortland grabs seventh straight in solid 66-52 fashion at RIT. Dragons coming at teams from many, many directions. Shoot 7x18 3s and have four scoring double digits: D. Maggiacomo 15 pts (3x8 3s), D. Jutton 14 pts (4x7 3s), F. Ranieri 12 pts. (6x9fg), 4 assts; S. Skrelja 10 pts., 15 REB. Skrelja and Maggiacomo come off bench, Skrelja 29' court time second only to Jutton's 32'.
Cortland ahead 32-28 at half and open second period with 23-3 run! Leads by 22 with 10' left. Corts 22x54fg. RIT shoots 21x60 (3x17 3s) in seeing three game win streak terminated. T. Bacon 19 pts, 11 reb for Tigers. Cortland 7-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on December 15, 2005, 03:42:48 PM
ILOVEBALL - amazing: scratching your head in disbelief at what you saw. That, in a word, describes my experience watching Edane Barton play basketball. Over the past 2 years I have seen him consistently outrebound people 5" taller and 50 lbs heavier; strip the best point guards in the league and convert huge dunks at the other end; hit NBA range 3's while getting dumped on his backside and then convert the and 1. I've also seen him commit dozens of unforced turnovers in every imaginable situation, launch passes to what appear to be imaginary team mates, or totally disappear for long stretches of minutes. The one constant has been never knowing what to expect.  His play can not reasonably be described without using superlatives. I'm not sure that his play can be reasonably described at all; no one else in the league can match either his "Oh, Wow" or "Doh!" factors - and in all respects, he meets my definition of head scratching amazing.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 21, 2005, 10:54:10 AM
Potsdam road woes lingering ....but what a way to go! In Hawaii, Bears drop preset tourney pair to D2 Hawaii Hilo 91-63, and to Daytona's Embry-Riddle 77-72 Now 5-4 with four straight road setbacks

In today's slip to ER, Potsdam trails 53-33 before rallying within two with 2' left. ER trey at 1' jacks margin to five. Damners back to three, ER ft's finish it.  Shoot 28x68fg (8x21 3s) to ER's 27x51fg (6x14 3s). ER 12-1. E. Barton 17 pts (6x12fg(2x4 3s), 11 rebs, 5 assts, 6 of Bears' 19 tOvers; D. Bisesi 15 pts (6x9fg, 3x4 3s); B. Siskavich 12 pts (5x8 3s); E. Ducena 11 pts. Barton 4 fouls in 27', Bisesi 4 in 29', Ducena 4 in 30'

In Monday loss Pdam 23x59fg to Hilo's 30x51(11x15 3s). Barton 12 pts, 9 reb, 4 assts; Bisesi 9 pts. Hilo 6-3




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2005, 04:23:58 PM
As we prepare to board the Florida Express .......

Thursday openers at Montclair tourney have 5-2 Plattsburgh, winners of three straight, in rugged test vs. 7-1 Keene of NH, and Montclair vs. Bridgewater MA in fray of 3-4 marks. Keene had six game win streak till dropping 100-97 outing vs. respected 7-2 Tufts Jumbos. Tourney concludes Friday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2005, 09:11:34 PM
Plattsburgh slips 101-100 in overtime to Keene St. (NH) in Montclair tourney start
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on December 29, 2005, 11:26:42 PM
Jdex,

Have a wonderful time in Florida.  We all appreciate your efforts to keep us informed.  Best wishes for a happy and healthy new year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 30, 2005, 12:09:23 AM
Unbearable,
Appreciate it ...................rarely get near a computer in FLA., but do keep close tabs on SUNYACs. Looks like top notch horse race in Jan/Feb. Cortland all we thought they'd be -- tough. Very deep. It'll be interesting to see how TSpan handles the point. Elbert Nalls draws starting assignment and does well in all facets. Gets pulled early and rarely sees duty thereafter. Generally his successors even better -- Maggiacomo and Skrelja in particular.

Plattsburgh in quite the game this evening and faces host Montclair (68-67 loss to Bridgewater MA) on Friday afternoon.
Keene NH escaped Cardinals' charge from 68-42 deficit at 11:35 to 86-86 tie on A. Williams' '3' at 0:17. After Keene hoop, A. Miller layup at 0:01 created reg. knot at 88.
Keene hit FTs six-seconds into ot and led by eight at 3:08. Back came Platts within 99-97 on A. Williams' trey at 0:55. Miller layup at 0:32 made it 101-99 and his ft moments later posted final score. Miller missed jumper at 0:02
Pburgh 34x68fg (9x27 3s), 23x30ft. Had 47-36 board edge. Lost Williams, T. Gorham, K. Gibbs-Smith on fouls (Keene 25x36ft and 32x70fg). Miller 21 pts (6x9fg, 8x9ft), 5 assts, 5 stls in 24'; Williams 20 pts (6x13fg); Gibbs-Smith 15 pts (6x8fg) and 6 TVers in 24'; R. Rider 13 pts (4x7fg, 2x3 3s) in 19'; T. Gorham 11 pts (4x4fg), 10 rebs; B. Hatch 10 rebs
Keene 8-1. Had 44-30 halftime bulge
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 04, 2006, 12:04:05 AM
Florida? Where in Florida?  I live down here in West Palm Beach.

Haven't been on these boards in a while.  Wishing good Luck to the Golden Eagles in D.C.  as they head for the Catholic tournament!

I'd love to see my Alma Mater Play the beloved administrator of this site's Alma Mater! 

First, there is Eastern who I know nothing about.  Anyone have any info on the Eastern Eagles?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 04, 2006, 01:02:06 PM
Bport on the road tonight  at #10 york pa after having almost a month off. Bport then travels to catolic(receiving votes top 25) for a weekend tourney . GOOD LUCK BPORT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 04, 2006, 01:02:41 PM
catholic
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 05, 2006, 08:43:16 AM
Bport puts up a good fight on the road at #10 york pa. Bport down 10 at the half opens 2nd half on a 17-9 run to get within 2 pts halfway throughh 2nd half. York opens the lead back to 7pts and pulls away late for a 91-77 win. York has won 22 straight on there home court. Belluci goes for 24 and rother nets 19 in his first game for the port. cheeves and amparo also hit for double figures. The question still remains when are williams and harris going to be allowed back on the team? With rother back this is a good team, if williams and harris come back this team will be VERY GOOD.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 05, 2006, 01:16:18 PM
If Williams and Harris still aren't with the team now that we've moved into 2006, I'd seriously doubt they'll be coming back at all. The second semester (in terms of actual classes) starts for most schools over the next few weeks. Anyone who sat out in the first semester....i.e. John Rother and Mychal Wilkes, is now eligible because that semester is over. Right around the time of the Hamilton game is when the Brockport roster changed and Williams and Harris were taken off, and maybe some others, I can't remember. Seems to me, the Port's roster is always very large.

I think Brockport can contend for the league title with the nucleus of Rother, Cheeves and Belluci. But, their style of play and lack of players to choose from could hurt them down the stretch. After the Catholic tournament, there's the resumption of conference play, plus the Chase Tournament. If anything, Brockport will be battle tested and these games against tough competition will ready them for conference play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2006, 04:01:53 PM
Jdex reporting in .......from Clearwater at the moment .....

Seems all getting back into full swing this weekend ......know Cortland over Hartwick 79-62 on Wednesday, and at RPI tonight to begin five game road swing that includes Oneonta on Tuesday and north country (Pdam, Platts) following weekend, then at Oswego. Quite the haul!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2006, 10:34:37 PM
Cortland grabs ninth straight with 72-55 halting of host RPI. Shoots 48% (27x56fg, 8x19 3s) led by R. Headley 17 pts, D.. Jutton 16 pts (4x7 3s), D. Maggiacomo 12 pts (4x8 3s), F. RAnieri 11 pts, S. Skrelja 8 pts, 5 assts, 6 rebs, 3 stls. Up 38-27 at half. Dragons 9-1.
Maggiacomo 19 pts  (5x9 3s) on Wed. vs. 'Wick.
Corts continue coming at you from varying directions.

Oswego loses 91-83 at 2-6 St. Lawrence. Trails 42-35 at half, by 70-55 before rallying to 85-78. M. Burridge 28 pts, 7 rebs; N. Perioli 18 pts, A. Mims 13 pts

Oneonta tumbles 68-51 to NJ's R. Stockton in Union Tourney

Await Buff St. at M. Washington from Albright Tourney. Host all over Grove City.

Think we said Corts at Oswego middle of this month. Actually, Lakers at Cortland about that time. Dragons upcoming at Oneonta, Plats, Pdam and UTech before hosting Platts and Oswegos

Night from chilly Clearwater
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 07, 2006, 10:44:12 PM
Potsdam back in win column with home 75-73 stopping of Worcester St. E. Barton layup at 0:45 snaps 71-71 tie; B. Siskavich steal and 2ft clincher though Worcester misses 25 footer at :02 after theft. E. Ducena 15 pts, Barton 14, 6 rebs, 4 stls, 7 aswsts, Siskavich 14 pts in 18'; D. Bisesi 11 pts. Pdam 36-33 at half

Brockport bows to 8-2 Eastern 111-98. Winners cash 63 pts in second half to overcome 53-48 Bport intermission lead. B. Bellucci 31 pts in route going Eagles' effort

Oswego over Clarkson 79-73 in Potsdam. Lakers by 41-32 at half but trail by 5 with 9' left. M. Burridge 17 pts. first half and finishes with 26 (12x17fg), 8 rebs. A Mims 14 pts, 12 rebs, N. Perioli 13 pts

Buffalo St. tripped 81-76 by Albright in latter's tourney final. Albright 45-39 at half and extend to 69-55 before BS back to 78-76 on G. Jones trey on heels of his 4-pointer. Jones 25 pts, J. Tirado 20. Both all-stars. J. Williams held to 8 pts. after 33 in Friday's 88-86 beating of Mary Washington

Oneonta over St. Joe's, Me. 83-53. J. Wysocki leads Dragons with 14 pts, J. Murphy 13, M. Reardon 13. OState 39-25 halftime leaders and shoot 29x63fg

New Paltz loses 76-58 to Manhattanville. Down 36-28 at half and never closer. J. Hauser 17 pts, K. Crichlow 9

Fredonia in OT past Thiel 81-73 as T. Alassari nets 30 pts (14x20ft), C. Donahue 21 pts (5x11 3s). Leads 41-30 at half and was 66 all in reg.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: docksider on January 07, 2006, 11:25:58 PM
Jdex, thanks for the news.  I'm always amazed that I can get the scoop from you here faster than I can get results from the SUNYAC website.  Great write ups. 

Hope FL is good to you and that your internet connections are better than expected.   We're all better for your reports.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 08, 2006, 10:22:15 PM
Brockport gets to 4-5 when Drew yields 81-70 in consi of Catholic tourney on Sunday. Drew, 6-7, forges 37-34 halftime lead. Eagles 24x52fg (11x27 3s) and paced by all-tourney J. Cheves 26 pts (8x17fg, 5x13 3s), 9 rebs. Jon Rother 14 pts (5x9fg, 2x4 3s), 6 reb. Bport 43-32 reb edge. B. Bellucci checked to 6 pts (3x12fg) after 30 in Sat. loss to Eastern, Pa. when Cheves had 11, Rother 16. In nation's capital, host 9-3 Catholic wins title with 89-67 beating of Eastern. On to big Chase for Eagles

Also Sat, UTech in 67-60 slip to 7-1 Vassar, whose Brewers up 29-28 at break. Utica ahead 53-52 at 6:30, then in 63-53 arrears at 1:43. Shoots 26x61fg (4x22 3s). C. Reaves 10 pts, 6 assts; C. Laboard 10 pts, 6 rebs, 6 assts; A. Gilkes 10 pts (5x9fg), 7 reb
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 10, 2006, 08:19:21 AM
Ahhhhhh 2nd semmester basketball.. Who can stay stong, and who will fall off???

For how I think the SUNYAC will pan out...

1. I have to go with Cortland, with 4 players in double figures and a solid core Maggiacomo, and Ranieri esp. I would have to say down the strech that they will stand atop the SUNYAC standings.. However I don't know if they will be able to keep it up in the post season, last year fallin to OSU in Utica..

2. Oswego, yes although a minor slip at St.LU (which may hurt them down the strech) I think the Lakers will take the #2 spot in the SUNYAC.. Solid front court with Mims, Burrige, however besides Perioli in the backcourt maybe a bit lacking.. Will 40' a game take a toll on Perioli down the strech, we will see.. Hopefully they will find that 4th and 5th spark with the 4 Ruter playing limited minutes, injury?

3. Buff State, that's right BUFF STATE... Besides getting smacked by proven D1 Buffalo the bengals have been in all of their other 3 losses.. With J Williams and Gregg Jones being a solid 1-2 punch on the offensive end almost producing 40 points per game.. Playing 11 players over 10 minutes a game to me is incredible, which shows they are not affraid to use their bench.. Can they keep it together on the court??

4. Potsdam
5. Brockport, who I think will pick it up in the 2nd half
6. SUNYIT, who I think will fall off alittle 2nd half..
7. Plattsburgh
8. New Paltz
9.Oneonta
10. Fredonia
11. Geneseo
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 10, 2006, 12:42:52 PM
Tuesday appears to have the haves vs. have nots on top (always a dangerous situation, especially since all 'haves' are on the road): Cortland at Oneonta, UTech at New Paltz, Oswego at Fredonia

In Wednesday's Chase action, 5 seed Bport is home to 4 RIT, and 8 Geneseo meets 1 Fisher at Naz

SUNYAC lineup:
Cortland 2-0, 9-1
Oswego 2-0, 8-2
Potsdam 2-0, 6-4
SUNYIT 2-0, 4-4
Buffalo St. 2-1, 8-4
Oneonta 1-2, 6-5
Brockport 1-2, 4-5
Plattsburgh 1-2, 5-4
New Paltz 1-1, 4-6
Fredonia 0-3, 5-6
Geneseo 0-3, 2-6

Anyone see any major roster moves? Know Bport activates erstwhile CState all-star Jon Rother. Others? Plus ....minus?
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Post by: bports on January 10, 2006, 04:49:03 PM
Still no word on harris and williams but Bport activates mychal wilkes a guard from newark. I believe he has been inserted into the starting lineup and has had double figures 2 out of 3 games.
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Post by: jdex on January 10, 2006, 05:45:15 PM
'Sheek,' your second semester prognostication has merit. Bottom four for sure. Buff State looks to be in the upper mix. Seems to have defined top players and plenty of depth. Inside play looks rugged from several directions. Bengals in past have tendency to be quite undisciplined. Time will tell. How profound, huh?
Believe Cortland has staying power. Although plenty of points from perimeter as in the past, Dragons tougher inside because of Taggart. Can score if necessary, but content to fill a role -- screening, rebounding, defense. TSpan uses him according to matchups.
Schaller has returned to team after playing football, and has seen very limited action. Was expected to contend for starting point slot. Others have filled the bill in various capacities.
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Post by: thebear on January 10, 2006, 08:31:28 PM
Looking at the Massey Ratings

SUNYAC

Cortland (46)
Buff St. (98)
Potsdam (145)
Oswego (149)
SUNYIT (155)
Brockport (181)
Oneonta (207)
Plattsburgh (223)
Geneseo (259)
New Paltz (265)
Fredonia (283)

Think Cortland is the clear #1 with their veteran club.  Oswego lost a lot of toughness with the departure of Ponza, Oliver, and Constance, who were all scrappers.

Will be a scramble for 2-4 with Buff St, Potsdam, Oswego, IT, B'port all in the mix.  Suspect the bottom three won't change much barring injury.

Last year, the 1-4 seeds all won their openers.  Anything can happen in Utica, as its a road game for everyone.

P.S.  Potsdam's two losses in Hawaii were to a very talented Hawaii Hilo, team now 10-3 and a 2004-05 D-II top ten team, and Embry-Riddle (16-1), which narrowly held off (77-72)a late Potsdam charge and is the #1 team in NAIA D-II.  Potsdam is young, but if they can hang in there through the SUNYAC and win a first round home game, their newcomers will all have a year's experience under their belts by the time Utica rolls around.

Potsdam mid-year add is Jehrod Hall, Jr. from No. Country Community College, athletic 6-4 swing man, who coupled with Barton will give the Bears athletic mismatches at the #3 & #4 spots.  Potsdam is very young, currently starting a freshman, two sophs and two seniors. 
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Post by: bimbo coles on January 10, 2006, 10:51:14 PM
Lakers get by Fredonia in a closer than expected game.. 71-64.. A. Mims 20 on 9x15 and 5 boards, n. Perioli 12 on 3x11 0-5 from arc.. and 10 assists no TO in 39', Burrige after averaging 26 in last 2, goes for only 6 on 3x5..
Fredonia- Anderson 19 pts on 7x13.. Alassari 8 pts on only 2x7 from the floor.. OSU goes 6-6 down the strech from the line to put the game away.. Lakers 9-3, 3-0.. Blue Devils 5-7, 0-4..
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Post by: jdex on January 10, 2006, 11:36:19 PM
Cortland gets 10th straight with 74-62 stopping of host Oneonta where F. Ranieri goes for 19 pts, 9 reb, 4 assts; S. Taggart 17 pts, 12 reb (10 offensive; D. Maggicomo 11 pts (3x6 3s). Corts never real comfy; up 29-22 at half. Dragons 28x62fg to OState 22x51

SUNYIT conquers entertaining New Paltz 90-80. Tech 34-30 at intermission, sees daylight then withstands NP charge within three at :43. C. Reaves 24 pts (12 each half), 8 assts; C. Plante 19 pts, C. Laboard 13 pts, E. Belone 10 pts. J. Hauser 19 pts, 10 reb for NP. B. Kaible 11 pts, J. Sugroe 10 pts, K. Crichlow 10 pts

Plattsburgh takes guest St. Lawrence 69-64 behind A. Williams 22 pts (8x13fg), 7 reb. His two free flips late widen 67-64 margin. Cards end four game losing skid. T. Gorham 9 pts, 15 rebs; K. Gibbs-SMith 14 pts. Platts in 41-25 halftime command

Oswego locked in 37-all game at the break. Perioli and Downing clutch charity tosses near the wire. Downing 11 pts. Both sides 25x50fg. Lakers 15x16 free throwing. Oswego down the stretch had 61-49 lead
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Post by: jdex on January 11, 2006, 09:39:45 PM
Geneseo bows 70-55 to Fisher in Chase opener. Trails 31-30 at half and Fisher on 10-0 spurt midway through second half pulls away. T. Kitson 12 pts (6x7fg) leads Knights

Brockport up 69-63 on RIT with 6:30 left
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Post by: jdex on January 11, 2006, 09:44:57 PM
Bport 76-74 at 2:30
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2006, 09:58:40 PM
Bport-RIT in OT
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Post by: jdex on January 11, 2006, 10:14:23 PM
Brockport in OT tips RIT 99-87 at Bport. B. Bellucci 22 pts, 11 rebs; D. Rubertone 20 pts; J. Rother 19 pts, 5 rebs; J. Zenkel 14 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on January 13, 2006, 05:40:39 PM
Sheek - thanks for your views.
Bear - thanks for the Massey ratings, generally find them more useful than others.

I haven't seen everyone yet but this year looks easier to call then several previous.

The bottom four: Fredonia, Geneseo, New Paltz, and Oneonta in no particular order. One of them will make the SUNYAC tourney so why not Oneonta.

Plattsburg, Potsdam, SUNY IT, are likely 5 - 7. Plattsburg is the most dangerous on a given night. Playing there is usually diificult but, much like last season,  you never know what you'll get from the Cards night to night. Potsdam is young, rebounds poorly, and defensively challenged. I like thebear's optimism - first round home game - but don't currently share that view. Have't seen IT yet but stats suggest a 4 or 5 finish.

Top four: (1) Cortland. Have seen them twice and like this team. Hard working, well coached, veterans. Nothing special about any one guy - but they all share they ball, work the boards, hustle on defense, and and shoot FTs. You can win on the road with those skills.
(2) Oswego. Have seen them twice. Like to watch Perioli - a tough, decisive leader. Mims is quick and a leaper. Both are great entertainment but not enough help available. (3) Buffalo State. Can score with anyone but too often fail to D-up. (4) Brockport. This is Bellucci's last hurrah, Rother will keep his nose clean.

I know it's only January, but don't see anyone getting out of the first round of the NCAA's. Prove me wrong boys, please.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2006, 06:35:07 PM
Bearseh,
Like your thinking. Right on. Real interesting weekend for Cortland, at Pburgh tonight and at Pdam tomorrow. This always a difficult trip. Can't remember many times a CState sweep. Maybe 2000-01 when Dragons won 18 in a row; and maybe once before. Current win streak at 10. No real stickout wins, though seven have come on the road (including escape of depleted Bports). One of best games was only loss, season opener to current 9-3 Trinity (on 4 pt. play in closing seconds).
Having Potsdam travel to Oswego tonight may help Cortland. Seems like past matchups have always had Pdam at home the prior night.

Also tonight NPaltz at BuffSt, Oneonta at SUNYIT. Currently underway is Bport clash with Fisher goliaths. Could be quite the feather for Eagles, who should certainly be paying more attention than vs. RIT. Bports saw early 27 pt. lead vanish before recovering in OT.

Geneseo today crushed RIT 86-56 in Chase tourney at UR. Knights ahead 52-23 at half and hit 35x60fg. G. Spears 20 pts(9x13fg), 6 rebs, 5 assts; J. Kling 13 pts(6x7fg), S. Sciera 11 pts, J. Papincak 11 pts, S. Morton 6 assts. Face Naz/Keuka winner on Sat
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2006, 11:14:26 PM
Cortland 70, Plattsburgh 58
Oswego 63, Potsdam 51
Buffalo St. 63, New Paltz 62
SUNYIT 69, Oneonta 66
St. John Fisher 94, Brockport 78
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2006, 12:04:54 AM
Cortland's  F. Ranieri nets 24 pts (1,014 career), 12 rebs, 4 assts; R. Headley 11 pts, 4 assts; D. Maggiacomo 11 pts; S.
Taggart 6 rebs. Dragons' 11th in a row. Best start (11-1) since 1963-64 Dave Bleau era

Oswego carries early big stick -- 42-22 at half. Lakers 19x54fg to Pdam's 21x60. Road woes continue for Bears, just 1x9 3s. E. Barton 24 pts(8x15fg), 17 rebs, 5 stls in 38' for Pdam. Oswego's M. Burridge 18 pts, 15 rebs; spare K. Reuter 11 pts. Lakers get it done without usual big night from N. Perioli (1x4fg) 2 pts, 2 assts in 37'. E. Roberson off bench for 9 pts in 19'. Mims also in check

Buffalo State holds on behind G. Jones 20 pts(6x16fg), 3x8 3s; D. Mozelle 14 pts (6x8fg), 15 rebs; D. Griggs 14 pts(7x12fg), 11 rebs. BS ahead 36-31 at intermission, hike lead to 12. NP in late bolt and misses at buzzer. B. Kaible 17 pts(6x10fg, 5x9 3s) for Hawks; J. Hauser 11 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assts; M. Irwin 10 pts.  BS 24x55fg, 23 TVers and 43-31 reb edge. NP 25x58fg (9x25 3s).
BS without 21ppg J. Williams. No longer on roster

Brockport stays with Fisher most of the way. Down 47-43 at half and within 76-72 at 7:18. SJF with 31-44 reb. advantage and shoots steady 37x73fg. Bport 25x58(4x18 3s). J. Cheves 19 pts(6x16fg), 5 reb; B. Bellucci 18 pts(8x13fg), 8 reb in 37'; J. Rother 18 pts(6x10fg), 3 blks in just 24' (3pf).
Bport faces RobtsWesleyan in Saturday Chase consi

Geneseo up against Keuka in another Chase consi on Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on January 14, 2006, 01:16:37 AM
Back from Oswego. Laker Hall is a great venue and restaurants are outdtanding! The game, on the other hand...

Oswego looks great in the first half. Solid defense, superb transition game. Potsdam looks as inexperienced as they are, never get back on D, and can't handle Burridge inside. 2nd half - Potsdam's Barton puts on all-league performance (see jdex stats above), shuts down Burridge, and the rest of the Lakers, except Reuter disappear. Broderick smashes clipboard to pieces nearly blinding a fan in the third row. Best sit high if behind the Laker bench.

Lakers margin of victory is at the line - no surprise when playing there, eh. Lakers with 18 more opportunities than Potsdam. Note - only 7 more PFs blown on the Bears, but as we know, its not how many the Z's whistle - but when - that controls a game.

Worth the trip to see Burridge (1st half) and Barton (2nd half) and post-game pasta. Disappointments: Both point guards. More experienced Perioli smart enough to not force much when A-game isn't there. Beisesi could learn a lot from him.

Hold Your Nose Stat of the Night: Potsdam with a total of 3 assists.

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Post by: jdex on January 14, 2006, 06:44:31 PM
Cortland 69, Potsdam 60
Fredonia 70, New Paltz 67
Plattsburgh 75, Ithaca 68
Robts Wesleyan 91, Brockport 85
Geneseo 85, Keuka 71
Tonight: SUNYIC at Oswego
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Post by: jdex on January 14, 2006, 07:24:14 PM
Cortland grabs 12th straight with 69-60 win at Potsdam. Dragons hit half of 26 shots in first half for 32-25 lead. Bears 9x26fg in opening period and wind up 23x53 and 9x19 3s. Corts (23x50fg, 6x14 3s) have five in double figures: F. Ranieri 13 (5x7fg), 3 assts; S. Taggard 13 (6x8fg), 8 rebs; D. Maggiacomo 13 (3x4 3s and 3x3 1st half); S. Skrelja 11 pts (4x7fg); D. Jutton 10 pts; E. Nalls 4 assts in 19'. E. Barton paces host Bears with 16 pts(6x15fg), 13 reb, 6 TVers. D. Bisesi 13 pts(3x5 3s); E. Ducena 12pts (4x8 3s)

Fredonia up 27-24 at half. M. Kelly 12 pts(4x8 3s); K. Gordon 11 pts(5x8fg); T. Alassari 11 pts, 5 assts. NP gets 15 pts(3x5 3s), 6 assts, 2 stls from M. Irwin; B. Kaible 13 pts, J. Hauser 11 pts, K. Critchlow 5 rebs

Plattsburgh at home sees 25-12 lead gone by half (36-36). IC up by four at 5' before Platts reversal keyed by Gibbs-Smith and T. Gorham. Pburgh 23x46fg but 25x35ft (IC 9x13ft). Gorham 18 pts (5x9fg), 13 rebs; A. Williams 18 pts (7x10fg), 8 TVers in 40'; Gibbs-Smith 18 pts(5x8fg) in 27' bench role. Cards end five game IC win streak.

Brockport finishes fourth in Chase tourney. RW in 51-44 halftime lead but trails Eagles 78-77 before fast finish. RW 46-35 board edge. B. Bellucci 19 pts(7x10fg), 7 reb, 3 assts; J. Cheves 19 pts(5x9 3s); J. Rothers 12 pts(4x11fg), 4 blks; M. Wilkes 10 pts(2x4 3s); J. Zenkel 4 assts. RW 11-8

Geneseo finishes fifth in Chase. G. Spears 23 pts(11x17fg), 7 rebs; T. Kitson 16 pts(6x8fg); N. Kelly 14 pts(4x8 3s), 5 assts of team's 25; S. McDonnell 12 pts(4x7fg). Ahead 43-35 at half and hit 8x17 3s for game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on January 14, 2006, 09:38:04 PM
Cortland should get some top 25 consideration.  Their only loss is by one point to a respectable Trinity (Conn) squad, who beat #8 Amherst today.
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Post by: bearseh on January 14, 2006, 11:42:00 PM
bamm - I admire your optimisim re: top 25 consideration for Cortland. Much has been written about their 1 "quality loss". What's missing are quality wins, and they won't get them in the SUNYAC this year. Top to bottom the league, sadly,  will not generate the strength of schedule needed for a top 25 rating.

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Post by: bamm on January 14, 2006, 11:46:10 PM
bearseh -- I pretty much posted the same opinion in the Top 25 board regarding the strength (or lack of) in the SUNYAC.  Regardless, a consecutive win streak (12 and counting) compared to only one loss on the season at some point becomes hard to ignore.  The situation may end up like Fisher last year:  piling up wins against average teams (maybe a couple decent teams, but no big wins) will move you into the top 25, but not without a fair amount of skeptics.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 15, 2006, 08:20:20 AM
I was at the game, and Cortland is a good team. 

But they don't have the one player that makes them special.  I agree they may get top 25 votes because of a gaudy record, but I still think the SUNYAC is an any given team can beat any other league.

Props to Cortland for going 2-0 on the dreaded North Country swing however.  Not done very often.

By the way, Edane Barton averaged 20 points and !!15!! rebounds in the weekend losses to arguably the top two teams in the SUNYAC!

For those who care, the temperature drop in Potsdam over the last 24 hour is 47 degrees.  0 in the North Woods this morning.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2006, 12:49:53 PM
Another blow for SUNYAC strength? SUNYIT over Oswego 88-81 AT Oswego.
Oswegos 42-41 lead at half in what appears to be very even test. C. Laboard 23 pts, 8 rebs and C. Reeves 22 pts, 12 reb, 6 assts for Techsters. A. Mims 21 pts in loss as all five Lakers in double figures. M. Burridge 10 pts.

Sure do agree degree of mediocrity hurting Cortland. Dragons make cover page this week as 'flavor of the week'?????? Corts and Potsdam tied at 45 last night before 13-2 Dragon run featuring big man S. Taggart. F. Ranieri may be closest to go-to guy, but this team has many, many dangerous hands.

Also, of Cortland's first 13 games, 10 have been on the road. Corts go to Utica on Tuesday before launch of finishing kick mostly at their Corey Gym. That's where Platts and Oswegos visit next weekend.
And as we said, opening loss to Trinity, Ct. in tourney game may have been Dragons' finest moment to date (which is certainly saying something about SUNYAC this winter). Cortland led most of the way and we believe the entire second half until closing seconds -- and dastardly trey+ft. Trinity 10-3 after ambushing highly ranked and at-home Amherst last night
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Post by: bearseh on January 15, 2006, 08:24:21 PM
What's happening to Oswego in the 2nd half? Horrible 2nd half at home v. Potsdam. I didn't see the IT game but numbers suggest another let down. 

Hey bear, is Doc Smith still in shorts? Or is it really cold?
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Post by: Maxcy Maniac on January 15, 2006, 08:42:34 PM
Doc Smith....still in shorts.
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Post by: thebear on January 16, 2006, 07:03:48 AM
bearseh

IMHO, Perioli is having to play nearly 40 per game.  No quality backup to run the point.  These three game weeks are going to take a toll.

SUNYIT is athletic, but you can't underestimate what Murphy brings to the bench.  He know what to do when the game is on the line, and as long as he has enough talent to compete, he'll win more than his share.

5 below with wind chill in the -20 range.  Just another normal Janaury Day in Potsdam.  I suspect Doc Smith will still be in Shorts.

Props to the memory of Dr. ML King today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2006, 10:11:15 PM
Cortland 76, SUNYIT 70
Oswego 93, Buffalo St. 75
Brockport 83, New Paltz 66
Oneonta at Plattsburgh, ppd. to Wed
Potsdam 75, St. Lawrence 68
Geneseo 79, Elmira 40
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on January 17, 2006, 10:38:57 PM
Dispite not playing the first half Edane Barton led the Bears over St. Lawernce with 27 points in 16min.  Who can match up with Edane?  ???
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Post by: thebear on January 17, 2006, 10:43:52 PM
Just back from the Potsdam game at St. Lawrence.

Far more interesting than the final score indicated.

Potsdam coach Dobbs benched 3 starters and 6 reserves for the first half for reasons related to team rules.

Diminshed Bear forces (only six players saw action) were scrappy and kept it close in the first half, half ended with SLU up 34-25.  Freshman Damon Brown had 10 first half points to lead the Bears.  SLU had balanced scoring, but missed a golden opportunity with a 6x17 performance at the charity stripe.

In the second half, Potsdam's Edane Barton set a school record for points in a half with 27, added 6 rebounds and three steals, going 10x13 from the floor (In 16 minutes!!!).  SLU tried guarding Barton with everyone, but Barton kept driving to the hoop through traffic for layup after layup.  Brown added 12 points and 8 rebounds in his most extended action of the season.

Soph Tyler Shaver led Saints with 18 points, while Freshman Bela Vonnak had 16 points and 11 rebounds in 16 minutes.

Like Potsdam, SLU is very young with four freshman and two sophs in their 9 player regular rotation.  The Potsdam team that showed up in the last 10 minutes of the second half can compete with anyone.


Potsdam has the long trek to Fredonia and Buffalo this weekend.  
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Post by: jdex on January 17, 2006, 11:02:00 PM
Cortland takes undisputed first place lead with dispatch of former co-leading SUNYIT in Utica. F. Ranieri produces another solid show with 21 pts(10x13fg). D. Jutton 17 pts(5x10 3s), 3 stls; D. Maggiacomo 11 pts, 5 assts; S. Taggard 10 pts, 7 rebs; S. Skrelja 9 pts; R. Headley 8 pts. Dragons win 13th strraight (10-1 on the road)

Brockport's B. Bellucci 33 pts(11x13fg, 10x12ft), 6 rebs, 5 assts, 2 stls. Eagles 39-26 over NP at half. D. Rubertone 12 pts(5x10fg), 14 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls; K. Amparo 8 tps, 11 rebs in 23'; J. Rother 7 pts, 8 rebs, 3 assts, 5 TVers in 24'. Bport 30x66fg and 49-31 board lead. NP 28x67fg and led by J. Hauser 20 pts(9x19fg), K. Crichlow 13 pts, B. Kaible 12 pts, J. Richards 10 pts, M. Irwin 8 assts, 3 stls, 6 TVers

Oswego in 49-37 control at half and finishes 37x58fg(7x10 3s). T. Franze 20 pts(9x14fg), 7 assts in 26'; N. Perioli 20 pts(8x11fg, 2x3 3s) in 37'; A. Mims 15 pts(7x9fg), 8 rebs; T. Downing 14 pts(5x6fg, 3x3 3s); M. Burridge 2 pts, 3 rebs in 14' (4pf). BS 29x56fg and led by D. Mozelle 17 pts(8x14fg), 9 rebs; G. Jones 15 pts(5x10fg); D. Griggs 15 pts(7x11fg), 6 rebs; J. Rirado 11 pts(7x8ft), 4 assts

Potsdam shoots down SL 34-25 halftime lead. As Maniac says, no Barton in first half and 3' for B. Siskavich then. It's latter's free throws that tie and former's layup that put Bears over the top in second half. Barton 27pts(10x13fg, 7x9fg), 6 rebs, 3 stls and 4pf -- all in second half, we gather. D. Brown 12 pts, 8 rebs (10, 7 1st half). Pdam 26x61fg(4x7 3s), 19x32ft. SL 18x35ft and 23x57fg -- (DA BEAR SPEAKETH ABOVE)

Geneseo 43-14 cushion at the break. Knights shoot 31x59fg overall. N. Kelly 12 pts, S. McDonnell 12 pts, G. Spears 11 pts, 5 rebs; J. Papincak 11 pts, 5 rebs; B. Bennett 5 of Gens 22 assists. Elmira 25 turnovers

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2006, 11:39:21 PM
Quite the scare for Cortland in Utica. Host out to 24-12 lead. Cortland up 27-26 but trails 38-35 at half. Twas 64-64 at 4:39 and Dragons by 67-66 at 3:19. E. Belone '3' brings Tech within 71-70 at 1:10. Jutton trey at 0:14 lifts Cortland, whose M. Schaller two free flips at 0:04 the climax. First Schaller points of the season. Saw action for a minute.
Cortland 33x63fg and 4x10ft where UT was 2x4. Uticans 29x60fg and paced by C. Reaves 16 pts(7x16fg). A. Gilkes 12 pts(6x7fg), Belone 12 pts, C. Plante 11
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Post by: bearseh on January 18, 2006, 08:06:37 PM
Great nght for the concessionaires at St.  Lawrence. Z crew blows 50, count 'em, 50 personals. Teams combine for 30 turnovers, actually not bad for these two young teams, for a grand total of 80 play stoppages - not including time outs. Two per minute of play...smooth.

Need to maximize hot dog, popcorn, and No-Doze sales, be sure to reserve the Syracuse Whistle Wailers for your game. With 50 personals and 67 FT attempts, you'll have more than enough time to solicit visiting alums. Build that new field house today.
Call today! 1-800-315-BLOW.
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Post by: thebear on January 18, 2006, 10:00:37 PM
You had to be there to believe it.   

While the new SLU layout is very nice, (no wall of death for players to  contend with as in past years), the entrance for the fans is through the back door. 

Only concessions in sight were a couple of vending machines. 

Nevertheless props to the Carlisle family (NBA Rick's folks) for funding a very nice upgrade, far superior to the Amherst facility that passed for a sectional venue last year.

In the first half, while Potsdam was playing with reduced forces, Potsdam's two post players set some sort of record with eight fouls in 35 minutes of PT. 

First half FT shooting was serious futility as well.  Potsdam's 6x13 would be enough for wailing and gnashing of coaches' teeth, but SLU topped that with a 6x17 effort on their home court.

At least the game was cozy, weather outside was an sleet/ice storm with 45 mph winds.  Cute.

Barton was impressive in the second half, broke a 33 year old school record for pts in a half set in '73 first by now D-I (Siena, Marquette, Lamar, Wagner) coach Mike Deane, and later duplicated in '85 by D3 POY Brendan Mitchell.  Pretty heady company.

Bears are developing, SLU had just beaten Union, and last week Oswego at SLU - both top 10 clubs in the east region.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2006, 11:21:55 PM
Plattsburgh over invading Oneonta 65-61. K. Gibbs-Smith 21 pts(6x9fg, 8x9ft), 4 rebs, 3 assts; T. Gorham 6 rebs; A. Miller 6 rebs. Cards 29-25 half leader. OState's J. Murphy 18 ptsw, S. Coffey 15, E. Johnson 13
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 20, 2006, 10:04:09 PM
Cortland 62, Plattsburgh 41
Brockport 88, Buffalo St. 85
Potsdam 66, Fredonia 54
Geneseo 74, Oneonta 59
Oswego 74, New Paltz 60
SUNYIT 102, Cazenovia 79, Thur
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 20, 2006, 10:40:38 PM
Cortland's 14th straight not a thing of beauty. Just 22x64fg but in  rebound frenzy with so many misfires (Platts 14x53). S. Taggard 19 rebs for Corts, with 9 pts in 26'. F. Ranieri 12 rebs, 11 pts. Dragons 51-31 board rule. Platts 14-6 lead 8' into Pete's Place contest. Hosts finally grab 20-19 lead at 4:12 and hold 31-21 edge at half. Still a five point game with 11' left before Corts pull away. D. Maggiacomo 17 pts(6x12fg, 4x9 3s) in usual bench role. K. Gibbs-Smith 13 pts(4x14fg), 9 reb in 39'

Potsdam falls behind Freds 30-25 at half and winds up winning on 20x27ft showing (Freds 7x10ft and only four back with 3:45 left). Potsdam 20x48fg, Devils 20x52. E. Barton in 37' had 16 pts(3x6fg, 10x13ft), 7 rebs, 4 assts, 5 stls. B. Siskavich 15 pts(4x9fg), 7 rebs in 30', S. Mitchell 10 pts(4x8fg), 4 assts. D. Bisesi off bench for 14' duty and 4 pts. M. Kelly 12 pts(4x9fg), 3 stls for Fredonia, K. Gordon 6 rebs. T. Alassari in reserve stint for 18' and 8 pts

Oswego nets first 12 pts and cruises to 36-21 halftime lead enroute to Saturday appointment at Cortland. N. Perioli 12 pts in 1st half and closes with 23 and 5 assts. M. Burridge 15 pts, A. Mims 14 pts, 7 blks, 9 rebs; K. Reuter 10 pts. NP's M. Irwin 16 pts(7x10fg), K. Crichlow 10 pts, 6 assts; J. Hauser 6 rebs, 5 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 20, 2006, 11:17:03 PM
Brockport takes first lead with 10:29 to go and seizes it for good at 7:16. Up 84-77 at 1:51 but Buff St within 85-83 at :57 at 87-85 at :19. B. Bellucci answers first challenge for last of 34 pts(12x18fg, 4x5 3s). Adds 7 rebs, 4 assts in 35'. BS misses trey at :04. J. Rother 16 pts(7x13fg), 3 blks; K. Amparo 15 pts(6x8fg); J. Cheves 12 pts)4x10fg, 4x9 3s). BS ahead 46-38 at intermission. Bengals 37x69fg at Tuttle. D. Griggs 20 pts(10x13fg), 9 rebs; G. Jones 19 pts(7x18fg, 1x7 3s); C. Hepburn 16 pts(7x10fg), 6 rebs in 20'; C. Guiden 9 pts, 5 assts, 4 stls; D. Mozelle 10 pts(5x14fg), 5 assts

Geneseo and OState 28-28 at half before Gens 16-4 run opens second period. Knights 27x55fg and led by soph T. Kitson 21pts(8x13fg); S. McDonnell 11 pts (9x10ft); J. Kling 10 pts(4x4fg), 3 assts; S. Morton 10 pts(5x7fg), 5 rebs; G. Spears 8pts(4x7fg). E. Bratt heads Oneonta with 19 pts(6x9fg, 3x6 3s). S. Coffey 14 pts(5x10fg, 4x8 3s); J. Murphy 11 pts; M. Reardon 7 assts. Dragons 21x51fg (8x22 3s)

SUNYIT comes from behind to beat Caz, which holds 49-45 lead at break. Utica 61-33 board domination the difference. C. Laboard 33 pts(14x26fg, 4x7 3s), 10 rebs; C. Plante 20 pts; A. Gilkes 18 pts; P. Whalen 12 pts; C. Reaves 0 pts, 7 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 21, 2006, 05:42:33 PM
Cortland-Oswego Men's Hoops

http://www.bcmonsters.com
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on January 21, 2006, 08:17:01 PM
Props to Potsdam for their successful road trip. Check out E. Barton's stat line v. Buff State. Still amazing.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2006, 08:49:43 PM
To underscore Johnny Mac's halftime intro .....it wasn't pretty .......Oswego by 5 over Cortland at the half ......

Already .....

Potsdam back from 39-38 halftime deficit to trip Buffalo State 82-79. E. Barton 21 pts(5x10fg, 11x14ft), 6 assts in 33'. E. Ducenza 18 pts(5x5fg, 4x4 3s), 5 assts; S. Mitchell 16 pts(5x5fg, 4x4 3s); D. Brown 11 pts(3x5fg). Bears 23x46fg(13x21 1st half) and 9x12 3s, 23x29ft. BS 29x62fg, 18x26ft and led by D. Mozelle 24 pts(10x21fg), 7 reb; G. Jones 18 pts; D. Griggs 17 pts(7x10fg), 7 rebs, 5 assts; C. Hepburn 11 pts. Third straight L for Bengals

Geneseo wins fifth straight with 73-49 thump of New Paltz. Leads 30-28 at half. S. McDonnell 18 pts(6x12fg); T. Kitson 16 pts(6x13fg), 8 rebs; S. Sciera 9 pts(4x8fg); B. Bennett 3 assts. NP's pivot J. Richards 15 pts, 11 rebs; K. Crichlow 16 pts(6x9fg); J. Hauser 6 assts, 3 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 21, 2006, 09:08:40 PM
bearseh

Not just Barton - look at Mitchell and Ducena, they missed one FT between the two of them.  Both 5x5 FG 4x4 3FG, combined 6x7 FG.

Ducena had a perfect shooting line. and added 5 assists.

These two scored 34 points on 10 FGA.  That's outrageous!

Barton leads Potsdam in scoring, rebounding, Asts, & Stls.  Among the top 50 nationally in rebounds and steals.

Credit to Buff St.  Many teams would have packed it in after losing their top player at mid-season, but the Bengals have the talent and athleticism to be a force down the stretch.

SUNYAC is always interesting this time of year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on January 21, 2006, 09:39:07 PM
Indeed - great support.

How often do you see one player grab more than half of a team's rebounds. That's wack.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2006, 10:53:23 PM
Quite the day!! ...Down go Dukies, down go Pittses, down go Gators, down goes Frazier (actually E8's Fisher at hands of Naz) ....and down go the Dragons of CState ..

Oswego 59, host Cortland 56 to square up conference leadership
Brockport 98, SUNYIT 95
Fredonia 61, Plattsburgh 51

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2006, 11:14:30 PM
Cortland 14 game win skein ends at hands of visiting Oswegos. Shaky Dragons' shooting continues second straight night.  Corts 22x58fg(4x19 3s) vs. Lakers, who go 22x49(2x12). M. Burridge 18 pts(9x11fg), 8 rebs.  pace winners. A. Mims 14 pts(5x11fg), 9 rebs; N. Perioli 5 assts (2x8fg) in 38'. For Corts F. Ranieri 15 pts; R. Headley 11 pts, 10 rebs; D. Maggiacomo 9 pts (3x14fg, 3x11 3s); S. Skrelja 10 rebs. First time Maggiacomo hasn't hit double figures this season. Off the bench at all times.
Lakers in 26-21 lead at half when Cortland 8x27fg. Lead throughout second half and 56-44 at 3:55. Don't score again till 56-50 at 1:45. Up 59-50 at 1:29. Maggiacomo nails pair of 3s, the second at :44 to complete scoring. His final trey attempt off back rim at buzzer
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2006, 11:28:45 PM
Brockport in shootout at home, survives with 28x37fting to Utica's 16x22. B. Bellucci 5x6 down the stretch prove vital and give him 27 pts(7x15fg, 3x3 3s) to go with 10 rebs, 6 assts, 6 TVrs. D. Rubertone 20 pts(7x9fg), 7 rebs; K. Amparo 19 pts(7x10fg), 4 assts; J. Rother 13 pts(5x9fg), 4pf in 26'; J. Cheves 9 pts(4x10fg).
Bport up by 11 in first half and settles for 47-42 lead at break. Nip and tuck final 20'; Tech taking 86-85 edge at 4:09 on Gilkes points. Bellucci answers with '3' at 3:45.
Bport 32x61fg(6x18 3s); Utica 34x84fg(11x31 3s). Guests' C. Laboard 28 pts(9x20fg, 3x8 3s); C. Reaves 24 pts(8x17fg), 8 rebs, 3 assts, 3 stls, 5pf; C. Bien-Aime 15 pts, 5pf in 16'; A. GIlkes 13 pts(6x13fg), 10 rebs, 4pf in 13'. Two foul out, three others with four. Bport 4-2 in league, Utica 5-2

Fredonia sees 30-14 bulge at half disappear quickly. Plattsburgh forges 34-33 lead before Freds regain balance, seize lead and hold on. T. Alassari 22 pts, C. Donahue 11 pts, T. Anderson 11 pts. Platts' J. Dumont scores 15, T. Gorham 13
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on January 22, 2006, 02:54:50 AM
Dragons shooting hasn't been shakey - it has been hideous. Deciding factors on Friday: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th chances and Plattsburg's inability to play any aspect of the game to any degree of competence. I rue driving an hour and spending $8 admission to view this stinker with my wife. The best part of the game was sharing an orange and Peppermint Patty at the half.

Was commmited to see Potsdam at Buff State Saturday but did follow the Oswego v Cortland web cast. Both leave heads shaking with grotesque first half. Oswego in control througout 2nd half. Up by 9 with 1:29 remaining. Cort closes with a mini-run to make it appear interesting. Actually, it was...for 1:29.

Should, at least for a while, give rest to the delusion that Dragons should be in top 25. No slam at the team intended - only at the delusional.  Dragons do D-up and make teams play ugly; most opponenets, however, can play ugly with or without D...and Dragons offense odius.

Conference tightens up and a good week ahead. We'll see if Geneseo has developed into a dangerous team - or just beating up light-weights. Games of the Week: Tuesday - Oswego v. SUNY IT; Friday - Cortland v. Geneseo; Saturday - Buff State v. Cortland.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 24, 2006, 03:48:05 PM
Big game tonight in Utica, visiting OSU Lakers vs IT Wildcats.. Oswego looks to avenge their Jan 14th 88-81 loss to Reaves and Co. With a win over Cortland last Saturday, can the Lakers keep momentum and their SUNYAC lead.. IT looks to keep pace with Conference leaders C-Land and Lakers.. Also looks to keep the pressure on  Brockport and Potsdam.. Can Laboard stay hot, and will Burridge be a presence in the post.. Better guard play definitely determing the out come of this game.. IT: Bein-Aime, Reaves, Plante.. OSU:  Perioli, Franze, Downing.

Buff State needs win tonight to stay in the mix of things, good test for Geneseo to prove themselves in the conference..

Brockport trying to take care of Fredonia at their home gym.. Looking to put some space between themselves and the bottom half of the pack..

NP at O-State... Both looking for win #2...

Plattsburg vs visiting Potsdam, big game for Potsdam to keep pace with top 4..

:-*
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 24, 2006, 06:27:34 PM
Cortland-IC webcast

http://www.bcmonsters.com
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 24, 2006, 10:32:46 PM
Cortland again not very impressive but stops guest Ithaca 62-49 at Pete's Palace. F. Ranieri 18 pts, 9 rebs, 4 assts. R. Headley 12 pts. J. Bellis paces IC, Burton scoreless. Corts 32-25 at half. Just 21x55fg and 4x17 3. IC 18x51fg

Brockport humbled at Fredonia 64-56. Freds up 17-2 in first 10', then 35-7 and 39-27 at half. Brocks within 55-54 at 3:45. T. Anderson, K. Gordon, D. Watkins, C. Donohue finish strong. T. Alassari 15 pts, T. Anderson 14 pts, 6 rebs, 6 assts. J. Cheves 16 pts for Eagles, D. Rubertone 15, Bellucci held to 13

Geneseo at home all over Buffalo State 88-64. G. Spears 17 pts(7x9fg), 7 rebs; N. Kelley 12 pts(4x5 3s), T. Kitson 6 rebs. S. Morton 16 pts. Leads 47-34 at half

Plattsburgh at home nips Potsdam 71-69
Oneonta at home whips New Paltz 72-47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 24, 2006, 10:50:55 PM
Oswego spoils home sweep with 93-89 OT conquering of SUNYIT

Plattsburgh wins behind A. Williams 23 pts(15 1st half), 7 assts. K. Gibbs-Smith 18 pts, A. Miller 13, T. Gorham 13 rebs. Up 36-35 at half. Pdam's D. Brown 24 pts(9x13fg, 6x6 3s), E. Ducena 15 pts(6x7fg, 3x3 3s); E. Barton 11 pts, 6 assts in 25'; S. Mitchell 6 assts. Pdam 17 TVrs to Platts 9
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 25, 2006, 09:34:56 PM
Plattsburgh-Potsdam last night. A truly exceptional game. Both teams played with a tremendous amount of intensity. I was so sorry to see the game decided the way it was: Chris Gibbs-Smith made one of his usual spin moves, shot the ball over a man 6 inches shorter than he, misses shot, whistle blows, foul on the Potsdam guy.  Offensive foul, probably, but please, don't make the call that you did!!! The game should have been decided by overtime, not 2 free throws with 2.2 seconds left. The capacity crowd deserved a little longer night of hoops. Reaction after game: POtsdam fans: "Can you believe that?"  Plattsburgh fans: "we got away with one."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on January 25, 2006, 10:27:46 PM
to BBM.

GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. POTSDAM HAD A FRESHMAN WHO AVERAGES 4 POINTS A GAME GOES OFF FOR 24. BARTON DOESENT DO ****  ANTHONY WILLIAMS GOES FOR 23 POINTS 7 ASSISTS AND 1 TURNOVER. PLATTSBURGH SHOOTS THE BALL TERRIBLE AND STILL WINS BY TWO. POTSDAM GOES 10 FOR 13 FROM THE THREE POINT LINE AND STILL LOST. POTSDAM GOT BEAT. GIBBS SMITH GOES TO THE HOLE AND SHOOTS OVER TWO OR THREE PEOPLE AND GETS FOULED. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR POTSDAM WHERE WAS YOUR HERO BARTON AT?  EXACTLY NO WHERE GIBBS SMITH GUARDED BARTON  AND HE DIDNT DO MUCH WHY DOESENT BARTON GUARD GIBBS SMITH. GIBB SMITH WENT 4 FOR 5 FROM THE FLOOR AND 4 FOR 5 FROM THE LINE IN THE SECOND HALF WHILE BEING DOUBLE TEAMED EVERY TIME HE TOUCHED THE BALL. IF PLATTSBURGH'S SHOOTERS WOULD HAVE BEEN HOT POTSDAM WOULD HAVE LOST BY 15. SO STOP MAKING EXECUSES. YOU POTSDAM FANS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BARTON WHY DIDNT HE STEP UP AND SHUT DOWN GIBBS SMITH IN THE SECOND HALF AND DOWN THE STRETCH WHERE HE WORKED POTSDAM OUT. BUT KEEP MAKING EXCUSES ITS THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO. NO ONE ON THAT TEAM WAS ABLE TO HOLD GIBBS SMITH ONE ON ONE AND IF IT WASNT FOR THE DOUBLE TEAMS EVERYTIME HE TOUCHED THE BALL HE WOULD HAVE GAVE DUCENA 30 OR BETTER AND WILLIAMS TORCHED POTSDAMS GUARDS FOR 23 AND 7 AND ANTWON MILLER ALSO PLAYED A SOLID GAME OFF THE BENCH. TAKE AWAY #15 s BIRTHDAY NIGHT AND YOU GUYS ARNET EVEN IN THE GAME.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on January 25, 2006, 11:03:31 PM
Toot your own horn some more...G-S. How many times have you beaten Potsdam in your career? Just keep your mouth shut till you beat Potsdam in the SUNYAC tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on January 25, 2006, 11:33:49 PM
OH WOW SO WHAT I JUST BEAT THEM LAST NIGHT THOUGH. AND I AM NOT TOUTIN MY OWN HORN I AM STATING THE FACTS. POINT BLANK IS POTSDAM LOST LAST NIGHT MY ARGUMENT IS OVER AND HERE YOU COME OUT OF NO WHERE BUT SAY WHAT YOU LIKE WE WON LAST NIGHT SO TALK TO YOU LATER  ;) ;D AND TO BBM IF THE SPIN MOVE IS SO USUAL WHY DOESENT PEOPLE LEARN TO STOP IT AND WHY IS HE DOUBLE TEAMED EVERY TIME HE TOUCHES THE BALL. YOU PEOPLE THAT RIGHT ON THIS THING ARE SO FUNNY PROBABLY NEVER PLAYED A SPORT IN YOUR LIFE BUT SO QUICK TO HOP ON THE CLOSET SCHOOL TO YOUR HOUSE. GOOD NIGHT AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT IN POTSDAM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on January 25, 2006, 11:42:21 PM
AND TO BE HONEST I WOULDNT EVEN WRITE ON THIS PAGE BUT  EVERYTIME SOMEONE WRITES ABOUT PLATTSBURGH THEY ALWAYS SAY SOMETHING NEGATIVE SO I AM GOING TO DEFEND PLATTSBURGH STATE EVERYTIME THERE IS A NEGATIVE COMMENT. IF IT WASNT FOR THAT I WOULDNT EVEN WRITE ON HERE. EVERYTIME PLATTSBURGH NAME IS MENTIONED OR MOST OF THE TIME I SHOULD SAY IT IS SOMETHING NEGATIVE STARTING FROM LAST YEAR
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on January 26, 2006, 12:23:23 AM
G-S, YOUR CAPS LOCK IS ON...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 26, 2006, 12:29:50 AM
Please don't shout. Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 26, 2006, 12:55:37 AM
Don't you have anything better to do than to come on here and talk smack? I can't imagine your coach would be terribly happy about you posting on a message board about your immense greatness during the season. Is it that boring in Plattsburgh that you have to sit in the dorm room and peck away at the key board with your caps lock on? Most guys would let their play on the basketball court do their talking. So people say bad things about Plattsburgh. It's a message board. A last second win against a Potsdam team that's around the middle of the pack in the conference, nothing to seriously write home about.

And the last person you need to rag on is Edane Barton. By my estimation, he's still the best player in the conference. And...he's been a part of two SUNYAC Championship teams, been to the NCAA tournament twice, and twice, he was the Most Valuable Player of the SUNYAC tournament. Not to mention, he's got the common sense not to come on here and talk trash about others.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 26, 2006, 08:29:24 AM
To ILOveBasketball  - Thanks for bashing me regarding my comments about the game and the other things about going back to Potsdam....... I AM a Plattsburgh State grad and I'm telling it the way that I saw it. You did have a very good game, your team shot much better than usual (except for Dumont), and I beg to differ with you on your comment about not being a ballplayer. If you don't know squat about someone, I wouldn't be running my mouth, thank you very much. Please don't make me want to rip up my PSUC Diploma....
P.S. What's the big thing about who is better, you or Edane? Who was better, Bird or Magic? Chamberlain or Russell? To me, let's just sit back and enjoy watching the better players. Is is that important to be the best?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: assassin on January 26, 2006, 10:21:38 AM
If their is one thing I have learned from reading the posts on this site over the last few days, it's that Gibbs-Smith won't be winning any 3rd grade spelling bees anytime soon.  Let's review his many spelling errors and give him his corrections for future use, shall we:

1.  EXECUSES-Excuses
2.  ARNET-aren't
3.  WHY DOESENT PEOPLE-Why don't people
4.  Right-Write (wrong usage)
5.  Closet school-Closest school

Just play ball dude!  Your only embarassing yourself on this site and creating the wrong kind of attention for yourself and your team. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on January 26, 2006, 12:59:24 PM
Hey, Gibbs-Smith, name one thing important you've ever won in your life, at any level? I bet you didn't even win YMCA tournaments in Rochester. I'm a fan/alum of an E8 team, but I'm from Rochester and I know for a fact that you've won nothing of any importance EVER . Sure, you get some individual accolades(All-Greater Rochester, SUNYAC, etc), but you're not a winner and you never have been, so shut your mouth.

I'd take Barton's big-game abilities(I'm talking about the SUNYAC tourney, not a middle-of-the-season conference matchup) and the fact he's a winner over your stats any day of the week. Like McGraw said, let your play on the court talk. People like you are the ones who would take Peyton Manning over Tom Brady. I sincerely look forward to your team's premature exit in the SUNYAC tournament. Get some class.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on January 26, 2006, 02:16:49 PM
This is my last post the only reason i come on here and write is because everytime plattsburgh is mentioned it is never positive so i speak my mind no disrespect  to anyone and if anyone took offense i am sorry but i get tired of seeing plattsburgh talked about all the time well see how the season pans out and im done !!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ILOVEBALL on January 26, 2006, 02:22:52 PM
ONCE AGAIN SORRY IF I HAVE MADE ANYONE FEEL DISRESPECTED I JUST GET WORKED UP SOMETIMES BUT TO ASSASSIN MY CUMULATIVE GPA FOR MY FOR YEARS IS A 3.1 AND MY CAPS WERE ON ON PURPOSE BUT I WAS OUT OF LINE AND I APOLOGIZE AND I WILL LEAVE THE DISCUSSION FOR  THE REST OF THE SEASON TO YOU GUYS.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 26, 2006, 03:23:00 PM
Once again Gibbs, it would be: My GPA for my *four* (4) years not "for"... What do they teach you up there in the North Country.. Good luck after college...  :-*
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on January 26, 2006, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: bimbo coles on January 26, 2006, 03:23:00 PM
Once again Gibbs, it would be: My GPA for my *four* (4) years not "for"... What do they teach you up there in the North Country.. Good luck after college... :-*

Should the name of this board be changed to "SUNYAC Grammar School"?  Sheesh.  Take it easy.

And if so, Gibbs should probably point out that a "?" should have followed "North Country".
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 26, 2006, 05:55:38 PM
It's too bad that we've gotten away from bb talk and have gotten all worked up on grammar. Yes, the grammar has been bad, but that's not what we're here for. I hope that Gibbs-Smith has a great career, but I hope that he keeps the game in perspective. Bashing Edane is not the answer. I have met Edane on 1 occassion and I spoke with him for 8 or 9 minutes until he excused himself as he was going to be late for a speaking engagement. I found out that he was speaking to a large group of inter-city (NYC) youths about the positives of staying in school and getting an education. I have heard other stories like that relating to Edane. No, Edane may not be a superstar every night on the court, he won't make the NBA, but with his kindness and his outlook on life he will be remembered and looked upon as a hero to many young people. I guess you would say that he is a true ambassador for SUNYAC and all of college basketball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2006, 10:17:58 PM
Cortland 69, Geneseo 57
Brockport 97, New Paltz 79

Potsdam 82, Oneonta 63 as Bears escape 36-32 halftime hole. Pdam  goes 27x41ft to OState 6x9. Ironically, E. Barton exits on fouls after 18'. Goes scoreless in 9' opening half but has seven second period points (7x8ft) and has 7 rebs for game. D. Brown 18 pts(6x9fg, 3x4 3s); B. Siskavich 15 pts(6x9fg); A. Dike off bench for 13 pts, 6 reb in 24'; S. Mitchell 13 pts. OState's S. Coffey 19 pts(6x10fg, 5x6 3s). Oneonta 24x48fg, 9x20 3s. Pdam with 43-24 reb gap; shoots 24x55fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2006, 10:37:34 PM
Oswego 58, Fredonia 54
Plattsburgh 69, SUNYIT 67

Cortland halts Geneseo whose Knights hold 28-26 homecourt halftime lead. Late 10-0 run clinches for Red Dragons. F. Ranieri 17 pts(6x14fg), 10 rebs, 4 assits; R. Headley 15 pts(5x9fg), 6 rebs; S. Skrelja 5 stls, 3 assts. CState minus starting pg E. Nalls for second straight game. Gens' G. Spears 15 pts, 5 rebs; S. McDonnell 19 pts in 27'. Corts 10 TVers to hosts' 19. Cortland 24x56fg, Gen 19x49fg

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2006, 10:53:19 PM
Oswego also trails at half, 23-21, and quickly down 27-21 before 7-0 run reversal for league leaders. N. Perioli 16 pts, M. Burridge 10 pts, 8 rebs. Freds T. Alassari 19 pts, D. Watkins 12

Bport behind 34-33 prior to taking 49-44 halftime lead. J. Rother goes for 30 pts(11x15fg) in 31', the same court time posted by B. Bellucci in 23 pts(8x16fg), 8 assts, 10 reb performance. K. Amparo has 15 pts(6x11fg); J. Cheves 14 pts(5x7fg); D. Rubertone 10 pts. Eagles shoot 36x60fg, 8x13 3s. NP's J. Hauser 24 pts(10x18fg); J. Sugrue 10 pts; M. Irwin 10 pts, 7 assts. NP 32x63fg and 2x2ft to Eagles 17x22ft and 21 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2006, 11:01:27 PM
Plattsburgh's A. Williams 24 pts (5 3s), 7 rebs; K. Gibbs-Smith 11 pts, 5 rebs. Cards hit first 13x24fg for 45-33 bulge at half. C. Laboard 18 pts, 9 rebs for UT; E. Belone 13 pts; A. gilkes 9 rebs. Tech 47-36 lead off boards, 20-6 offensive
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 27, 2006, 11:19:27 PM
Not sure why Nalls hasn't been in the line-up for C-State. He hasn't played to my knowledge since getting elbowed in the nose by Nick Perrioli last Saturday night. Fish, Schaller, Maggiacomo and Skrelja combined to play well running the point against Ithaca on Tuesday. As long as the point guard by committee works, I think Cortland will continue to use it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2006, 10:24:22 PM
Cortland 75, Buffalo St. 73
Brockport 77, Oneonta 76
SUNYIT 94, Geneseo 92
New Paltz 68, Fredonia 64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2006, 10:45:20 PM
Cortland wins on F. Ranieri jump bank shot at :03. His steal secures it. Dragons pull even with idle Oswego atop conference at 9-1. Buff St. holds lead for majority; at 18-6 prior to CState run into 22-22 knot on J. Miolan `3'. At 36-36 going into final frame. Each side with five point advantages. Corts finally grab lead 72-71 on S. Taggart FTs at 1:50. R. Headley FT at :48 makes it 73-71 and BS's C. Hepburn gets equalizing FG at :04. Enter Ranieri for last of his 11 pts(4x10fg) in 36'. D. Maggiacomo off bench for 24 pts(8x13fg, 5x10 3s) in 29'. Taggart 18 pts(7x10fg), 10 rebs in 28'; Headley 12 pts(4x9fg), 4 assts; S. Skrelja 12 rebs, 4 stls in 29'. Corts 19x25fts to BS 15x23ft. Hepburn with 17 pts(6x12fg); L. McNair 13 pts in 23'; G. Jones 11 pts(5x15fg, 0x6 3s); D. Griggs 10 rebs; D. Mozelle 9 rebs, 7 pts; C. Guiden 11 pts, 4 assts, 3 stls. Cortland 25x66fg, 6x17 3s, 19 TVrs to Bengals' 26x58fg, 17 TVrs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2006, 11:30:12 PM
Brockport battles back a good deal at OState where Dragons hold 38-36 lead at half and by nine early in second period. Match tied at 4:09 and at 73 at 1:27 when B. Bellucci sinks FT pair. J. Cheves, who led earlier second half comeback, made FTs at 0:05 for 77-73 margin. S. Coffey trey at end. Bellucci 24 pts(8x14fg, 3x4 3s) in 31'; J. Cheves 21 pts(6x17fg, 4x9 3s), 5 rebs; Jon Rother 17 pts; M. Wilkes 5 assts, 3 stls. Eagles 21x29ft to OState's 12x25. Coffey 23 pts (7x9 3s), 5 rebs; J. Murphy 14 pts; M. Reardon 14 pts, 9 assts. OState 10x15 beyond arc

SUNYIT wins in OT and makes 14x28 3s. Geneseo ahead 40-39 at half and led by S. McDonnell 20 pts

NP ends 10 game skid as J. Hauser has 26 pts(6x10 3s), J. Sugrue 15 pts(5x6 3s). Fredonia ahead 39-32 at half. T. alassari 17 pts, D. Watkins 13, T. Anderson 13 and 12 rebs. NP's M. Irwin trey at 5' puts Hawks up for good. Has 8 pts, 4 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2006, 01:01:34 PM
The best shot at No. 1 tourney seed, in other words regular season title holder?
Obviously Cortland and Oswego have a leg up. Both 9-1 and two game lead. And down the stretch they come ........with CState seemingly a schedule edge. Dragons' February slate includes two games with cellar dwelling NP and singles with playoff challenged Geneseo and Fredonia (latter pair on final weekend), and key dates with SUNYIT and Bport (both at home).

Oswego's closing six league dates include road date tonight at rushing Pburgh, home tests with BS, NP and OneSt, and a seemingly deciding final week at Pdam and Bport. Lakers have pretty much relied on starting five, especially Mims, Perioli and Burridge. Thrown in for good measure next week is home game vs. solid Utica College

Cortland uncharacteristically in a bit of a downswing late in the season. Shooting percentages off of late. Of course, rugged defensive play remains, and F. Ranieri is the steady one. S. Taggart came up big last Saturday as did bomber D. Maggiacomo. Also came a huge lift off the bench from heretofore unknown frosh guard J. Miolan (15').

Bport is 6-3 and up against it, though certainly capable. Toughest schedule overall. And Eagles run for home starts tonight at dangerous Buff St., whose postseason hopes are surprisingly iffy. Bport also has Pdam, Pburgh, Geneseo, Oswegos at home, and go to Utica and Cortland.  Real longshot with that slate.

Potsdam at 5-3 starts a 'must' win closing kick tonight in north country against 6-4 Utica Tech. In another week Bears are in Utica. Away games at Bport, Geneseo are slated next weekend. Final four dates are with BS, Fredonia and Oswego at home, and windup at Oneonta.

Also tonight, Fredonia is at Geneseo, and Oneonta has outsider at Ithaca.

In a race for the final three playoff spots at the moment: Pburgh 4-5, Gens 3-5, BS 3-6, Freds 3-7, Oneontas 2-8, NP 2-9

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on January 31, 2006, 05:27:20 PM
Right on the money, jdex.

Cortland with the decided edge in scheduling.

Important games in the north country. Plattsburgh is always a tough venue and it's time for the Cards to put up or, as has been characteristic of last couple of years, crash and burn down the stretch. Oswego has tough road wins v. IT and Cortland and they need this one.

Bears season is on the line this week. IT tonight and away in Rochester this weekend.  I know the bear was hoping Potsdam would hang in close enough in the first half of the season and then ...a light at the end of the tunnel. They have done the first, but you know what the light is. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsc1fan on January 31, 2006, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 31, 2006, 01:01:34 PM
The best shot at No. 1 tourney seed, in other words regular season title holder?
.....
  ....Eagles run for home starts tonight at dangerous Buff St., whose postseason hopes are surprisingly iffy.


  Yes indeed, ...what's up with this 2nd half Bengal Swoon?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2006, 10:16:21 PM
Oswego 61, Plattsburgh 38
Brockport 102, Buffalo St. 93
Geneseo 75, Fredonia 54
SUNYIT 83, Potsdam 71
Ithaca 69, Oneonta 64

Buff St. minus ace big man Williams for second semester ....was leading scorer (20 ppg) and rebounder .........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2006, 10:32:44 PM
Yeah, yeah ....oops ........that Oswego cruise at Pburgh is a women's final!! Dang! ...Anyone know the men's?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2006, 10:36:09 PM
Joy in the Burgh ...... Plattsburgh MEN 85-77 over Oswego!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2006, 11:26:58 PM
Plattsburgh's K. Gibbs-Smith career best 35 pts and 11 rebs. Goes 11x26fg and 27 pts in opening half when Cards take 47-41 lead over Oswego. Lakers' six game win streak history. M. Dietz 14 pts for Burghers, B. Hatch 14, A. Williams 11. Oswego's A. Mims, M. Burridge, frosh K. Reuter 16 each, T. Franze 11, E. Roberson 10. Cards 31x61fg, Lakers 34x69 up north

Brockport wears down Buffs, who lead by 15 midway into first half, by 52-51 at half and by 11 with 10:43 to go. Bport's J. Rother launches return with dunk at 10', Bellucci follows with '3' and K. Amparo gets aboard charge. Game 85-85 at 4:43 prior to Amparo go ahead hoop. Presto ....Eagles forge 11 point lead at 1:07. Bport 34x60fg, 10x15 3s, 24x37ft; BS 34x68fg, 7x26 3s, 18x28ft. Rother 19 pts(9x14fg) in 34'; Amparo 19 pts (7x8fg); J. Cheves 17 pts(5x7 3s), 5 assts, 0 TVrs. Ex-Bporter C. Hepburn 21 pts(5x9 3s) for BS; G. Jones 16 pts(5x20fg, 1x12 3s), 4 assts, 3 stls in 38'; J. Tirado 13 pts(5x6 3); D. Griggs 11 pts, 10 rebs; L. McNair 10 pts

SUNYIT busts out to 38-31 lead at half and finishes 34x41ft to host Bears' 7x11. C. Reaves 23 pts(13x14ft), 7 reb; C. Plante 14 pts(3x5s); P. Whalen 13 pts(9x9ft); A. Gilkes 11 pts. Pdam 10x20 3s. E. Barton 17 pts(6x14fg, 2x2 3s), 10 reb, 3 assts, 4pf in 29'; D. Brown 15 pts(3x5s). Utica 42-35 reb margin

Geneseo's S. McDonnell nine 3s set Knights' record. Finishes with 28 pts (9x12fg -- all 3s) in 23'. Breaks mark of all-time SUNYAC best Scott Fitch in early 90s (Fitch coached McDonnell at Fairport). Gens and Freds 25-25 till home team breaks to 44-28 halftime lead. McDonnell 6x7 first half. Gens 28x51fg. T. Anderson paces Freds with 20 pts(7x10fg, 4x4 3s); C. Donahue 10 pts; A. Smith 9 pts, 9 rebs

Oneonta always has Ithaca in sight -- never more than 9 back. IC 36-33 at half. OState has brief 49-48 edge at 9:20. S. Coffey 18 pts(5x12 3s) in 27'; M. Reardon 12 pts; J. Murphy 10 pts, 5pf in 21'. J. Bellis 23 pts; Andruskiewicz 22 pts, 16 reb for IC

Jdex on the move, folks. Probably no computer access for February, just the sun of FLA. Will scramble to stay abreast .......Go TSpan & CState!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on January 31, 2006, 11:54:22 PM
Props to the Cards. Career game for Gibbs-Smith torching the Lakers for 35 and 11 rebs.

It's 11:30 pm and it would be nice to see a box score...somewhere...anywhere.

Bears beaten at home. Next year will schedule all home games in Vermont, New Jersey, and the US Virgin islands  to avoid CNY z-crews. For the past several years, the best place to play Potsdam has been at home. Famous for getting "homed" at home.

Amazing stats of the game: (1) Potsdam converts 5 more FG and 5 more 3's and still losses by 12.  (2) 11 more PFs blown against Potsdam yields 30 additional FTs for IT.

Cortland will sleep well tonight...no one else in SUNYAC playing D.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: docksider on February 01, 2006, 01:06:52 AM
Say it aint so, jdex.  It's been great to have your posts from the sunbelt. I'll  second your closing thoughts for span and the c-state crew.

dock
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on February 01, 2006, 09:40:54 AM
Yes, SUNYIT did get to the f.t. line 30 more times than Potsdam. They were aggresive and they did take the ball to the hole hard. What got me was that Coach Murphy was up "chatting" with the refs ALL game. I know because I sat right behind him. Coach Dobbs had a seat, I don't know how much he left it as I wasn't seated behind him, but once when he got up to question a call he was given a "T". I thought that at least one of the other officials was going to step in and say something as the official who blew the 2 calls was screened out and did not get a good look at the play. Then again, why should I think that the officials would do something right???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 02, 2006, 08:40:23 PM
Big weekend for the home teams:

Friday

Brockport outscores Potsdam; neither play D
Oswego over anyone (Buff State) at home; can't beat their z's
Fredonia past Oneonta; Ah, what a year it coulda' been...
Geneseo, pushing for 4th, gets by G-Smith. Oh, right, Plattsburg.
Cortland slows down IT and gets win (if they get a friendly crew). Else, the Wildcats pull off the upset and the squeeze on 1-4 in the conference begins

Saturday...More of the same for the home boys.

Plattsburg and Potsdam in must win games at Brockport and Geneseo. Doesn't happen.

Visiting friends in Rochester this weekend and checking out Brockport both Friday and Saturday. He predicts Brockport runs the table, Cortland and Oswego lose twice, all three finish 13-3. Hmmm, if Eagles can average 180 per game...

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 03, 2006, 01:08:50 PM
Absolutely no way bport runs the table. They have a tough schedule down the stretch and they are way to thin. There starting 5 is as good as most anyone but they just dont have any depth. Im not sure if cheves can even play tonight or not, there was a scuffle at the end of the buff st game and he got tossed out. Its to bad they dont have there whole team because the really could have done some serious damage with williams, harris and mandalano. To make these kids sit the whole year for a small infraction makes me sick, someone over there needs to wake up. Kids make mistakes and this punishment did not fit the crime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thumbsup on February 03, 2006, 02:02:33 PM
new to the sunyac board.  Only one take here.  I was at the P-dam, Utica game.  Poorly officiated both ways.  Awful "T".  That being said, every night it seems I watch a poorly officiated game.  Some nights they let em play, some nights your in the one and one 8 minutes in.  I have never felt referees cost people games, but they need some new blood.  these guys are plain awful and don't work out there.  They even look bad at times.  Nothing against Utica-tech, they should have won the game, led wire to wire.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 03, 2006, 11:03:32 PM
Just got back from Brockport/Potsdam.
What a mess. As expected, neither played D. Only surprise was that the z-crew at this fiasco reminded me once again that incompetence is relative.

Props to Plattsburg. 40 min for G-Smith. Looking forward to Saturday afternoon at B'port.

What happened in Oswego?

C'state..steady as she goes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 04, 2006, 12:02:57 PM
bearseh you are correct those zebras were pretty bad last night. I am a bport fan and will admit potsdam got the raw deal on some calls down the stretch. Not having cheves also hurt the port, i believe he will be back tonight. I look at this game as a must win for bport because there schedule down the stretch is tough at cort, at suny it, oswego, and geneseo. They were kind of in the same position last year a nd blew there chance to host a game in the tourney by losing there last couple of games. If they win tonight to go to9-3 they could afford to go 2-2 down the stretch and 11-5 will definitely get you a home game especially having the tie breaker against pots and platts. Lose tonight though and all bets are off and even going 1-3 down the stretch wouldnt surprise me. Sunyacs are so competitive this year, if the season were to end today cortland would draw buff st first round. BRUTAL!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 05, 2006, 01:53:22 AM
Friday and Saturday SUNYAC basketball...what a prelude to Superbowl Sunday. On Friday, the 4 games pitting the 8 top teams against each other were decided by a total of 23 points Saturday, 9 total points was the difference in 2 games with 4 of the top 8.

Friday, it took a 30 point effort from Brockport's Ben Belluci to eclipse Potsdam's Ernst Ducena's 23 point night (8-15, 5-9 from 3, and 2-2 FTs). The Eagles needed an incredible 28-32 shooting from the line (87.5%)  to get the win, 93-86, in a game where they were outshot from the floor (30-29) and from 3 (12-7).

Saturday, Brockport 86 – Plattsburg 84. Both big guns,  Belluci 26, Gibbs-Smith, firing bullets. Belluci leading both teams with 8 assits. Gibbs-Smith battling for 8 boards. Belluci  giving Brockport 35 minutes, only exceeded by Cards Gibbs-Smith 39. The final difference? Eagles with one more 3 (12-11) than the Cards and one more FT (16-15).

Intended to follow-up Friday in Brockport with the Cards on Saturday – but saw enough offense Friday. Expected more of the same on Saturday and, apparently, there was.

Traveled to Geneseo, instead, to see the Knights for the first time this season in what turned out to be yet another in a string of tension-packed, OT thrillers with Potsdam. Last year Potsdam clinched the regular season championship with an OT win at home against the Knights, and 2 years ago Edane Barton first emerged as a Bears force when he hit the winner in OT at Geneseo.

Ernst Ducena sent this Saturday's game into OT, 65-65, with a twisting, high-arching, 15' fade-away jumper that hit nothing but the bottom of the net as the horn sounded ending regulation. Ducena led the Bears with 25 on a torrid (7-11, 5-7, 6-6) for a combined 15-26, 10-16 from 3, 8-8 FT weekend.

The real fun had begun. Freshman Brandon Siskavitch had been ineffective at the 5, but Tim Reinhardt gave the Bears 18 solid minutes, 7 rebs, and 4 pts before fouling out late in regulation and leaving Sherry Dobbs with a dilemma. Who to play in the post down the stretch with the game on the line? Dobbs creatively assigned that task to the  6'3" Barton. Barton took serious care of business in the Bears 78-71 OT win. Everything going to the hole, Barton stuffed, stole, deflected, or rebounded. It was, well, an amazing defensive performance with a game-high 13 boards and solid 20 pt effort. 

Jehrod Hall played a crucial supporting with 23 minutes, 10 pts, and 7 rebounds keeping the Bears (6-5) in 5th, a half game ahead of the Cards (6-6) in the loss column and only 1 game behind 4th place SUNYIT (7- 4).

Brockport climbs into a 2nd place tie with Oswego (both 9-3). Cortland (11-1) cruising at the moment – but others are  coming. Sounds like a typical SUNYAC stretch run.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 06, 2006, 04:11:34 PM
Here's a stab at the final standings.

2 obvious issues: 1) Clearly I have too much time on my hands and 2) only the bear can resolve how tiebreakers impact the final standings if this delusion works out.

Cortland (15-1): Wins out against Brockport, NP, Geneseo, Fredonia. Tough game for Brockport. At Cortland on Saturday after Friday at SUNYIT.

Oswego (12-4): Wins over NP, Oneonta, @Potsdam (Will win from the line). Lose @ Brockport.

Brockport  (12-4): Win @ SUNYIT. Lose @ Cortland.. Beat Geneseo and Oswego @ home.

SUNYIT (10-6): Beat Potsdam @ home after tough road trips for both. Lose to Brockport. Beat Fredonia and Buff State on the road.

Plattsburg: (10-6): Win out v. Fredonia, Buff State, NP, Oneonta.

Potsdam (9-7): Wins v. Bengals, Fredonia, Oneonta. Lose to IT and Oswego. 

Buff State: (Either 6-10 or 8-6) I have no clue what's up with the Bengals. I haven't seen them this year and am guessing they'll handle Geneseo even though the Knights destroyed them last time out. Potsdam, Plattsburg, IT? These are all a toss up but Bengals are 1-3 in their last 4 games decided by 3 pts or less. Somebody brighter than me needds to pick these.

Geneseo (6-10)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 07, 2006, 04:41:59 PM
bearseh & anyone else who cares. 

Pretty much agree with your picks, a few key games will decide much barring upsets. 

Cortland just about a lock for one seed, will see Geneseo in the first round.  Buff State most likely doomed to a seven seed, and a road game at Brockport or Oswego,  everyone else too close to call, but key games as I see them:


Tonight

Potsdam at SUNYIT.  The winner in great shape for a 4 seed, the loser is probably road fodder.

2/10

Brockport at SUNYIT.  Must win for both teams, a Brockport win gives them a shot at the two seed, SUNYIT win keeps alive their hopes for a home game.

2/11
Brockport at Cortland

Tough road weekend for the Eagles, who have the class player in the league in Ben Bellucci.  Don't think the Eagle's D is enough to stop Cortland at Home
A double dip on this trip and the Eagles are no longer flying high & would have to win out for a home game.

2/14

Oswego at Potsdam

Are the Bears freshmen game tested & ready to play like sophomores?  This game is regionally televised on Time Warner Cable of Central NY.  CNY reputations will be at stake, can someone please assign some competent refs?  bearseh - any suggestions?  Jim Burr/Din Cahill/Rich Paparo like the old days?

2/18
Oswego at Brockport, winner is the 2 seed, probably faces Buff State, loser is the 3 seed unless 'port lost two earlier contests then with Plattsburgh, SUNYIT, Potsdam in the 4-5-6 mix.

Lurking in the weeds

Plattsburgh W6 L6, Home this weekend vs. Fredonia and Buff State, away the last weekend vs. bottom dwellers Oneonta/New Paltz, easiest schedule of the contenders, Cards could back into a 4 seed if Potsdam or SUNYIT falters in any way.

Tie breakers beyond head to head are record against each seed.  Oswego's win over Cortland gives them trump card in any tie breakers unless someone else beats the Red Dragons in the next two weeks.

Tie breakers in the Brockport, SUNYIT, Potsdam, Plattsburgh mix get messy.  real probability all of these teams could wind up 9-7 or 10-6.

Conference sort of muted this year.  Cortland has a gaudy record, but no sense they're in any shape to roar through the first three rounds.  Dragons should be a lock for an at-large in the expanded field, and will probably host 1st round if SUNYAC champs. 

If SUNYAC tourney is an upset like two years ago, suspect champ will be fodder for a top seed, e.g. NYU, Fisher, or Hamilton, although we saw what happened at Amherst last year, Fisher wouldn't like that matchup.

Helps get through the dog days of winter in the North Country.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 07, 2006, 09:50:35 PM
Me again

bearseh a bit off tonight

Potsdam 85 SUNYIT 52 (@ SUNYIT) not a misprint

Edane Barton with 28, 19 in 2nd Half. Damon Brown had 14.  IT's C. Reaves held to 4 points after 23 last week.

Potsdam led by 16 at the half and extended.

45 point turnaround from a week ago, where they lost 83-71 at Potsdam to the Wildcats.

Question for the rest of SUNYAC, (& East Region) will the Potsdam team that showed up tonight be there for the next 4 games and SUNYAC's.  similar pattern to two years ago when the Bears went on a late season run into the second round of the NCAA's at Wooster.  Stay tuned.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 08, 2006, 12:21:31 AM
Just back fro Utica. A bit off? Blew this pick by 30+.

IT came out in a zone and Bears picked it apart inside and outside. It went man and dane Barton went wild. Potsdam up 16 at the half and only a 4 point swing in the final 20 sec. kept lead under 20. Bears scored first 5 to start second half and game over. Murphy understandably frustrated with IT's total collapse. Conceded with 8:30 to go when he pulled everyone.

Dave Besesi was spilnted and carried off the floor after bad spill on drive with 5:30 remaining. Tarnsported to hospital post-game.

Biggest news, excluding IT collapse, was Bears hustle and team defense. Bears have won 2 out of 3 road games within 5 days. Tim Rhinehardt played well in the post and Jehrod Hall was solid both ways in significant minutes.  Ernst Ducena a rock as usual and Damon Brown played a bit stickier defense. Mitchell ran the offense nicely.

Bench was into the game and that helps.

IT should be a great venue...intimate, well lit. Nice team and still only a few students show.

Oswego defends SUNYAC with a solid win over Utica.

Looks like it's just the two of us bear...so I'll forget posting and see you Friday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on February 08, 2006, 07:49:30 PM
Potsdam can certainly play with anyone in the conference. By the sounds of last night's game at SUNYIT, it looks like the team that played last year (senior led and senior deep). Before games last year, the team would huddle together and get pumped up and play some unbelievable defense. For the games that I have seen this year, the team shows up. Maybe the freshmen are realizing what it takes to win day in and day out. If so, watch out as the Bears will be coming at you 12-13 deep....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 09, 2006, 11:38:21 AM
To Bearseh and The Bear,

Even though you're the only two posting most of the time right now (at least until JDex returns), please don't stop. Many of us who don't post normally still enjoy reading about what's happening in the league. In my case (as the SID at Cortland), I only see the other teams when they play at our place, or in Utica, so I find it interesting to read about the "beyond the box score" details about other games from people at those games.

Thanks, and keep up the good work.

Fran Elia
Cortland

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 09, 2006, 08:51:28 PM
This is Buff States weekend to travel to the north country and the stakes for the Bengals couldn't be bigger. If the Bengals lose both legs of a tough trek then the door is open for Geneseo to bump them out of the tournament. If the Bengals come up big with 2 wins they have a shot at he 4 seed. Huge scheduling advantage for Plattsburg. Bengals must get by Potsdam on Friday and then face a 4 pm start in Plattsburg on Saturday.

Brockport comes east for a big road series as well. The Eagles should handle SUNYIT Friday. Potsdam left them in pieces Tuesday night and the Wildcats need David Copperfield to put them back together.

Best game of the weekend should be Brockport at Cortland. Two solid teams with very different styles. If Cortland fans don't pack the house for this one, then drop the phys. ed. major because these kids don't know athletics. I haven't seen a full house in the Dragons den in years and this team deserves support.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 09, 2006, 11:21:55 PM
Fran Elia

Thanks for the moral support.  We'll do the best we can, although you know between the two of us there will be a certain amount of grousing about incompetent members of the CNY striped shirt profession.

Bearseh

Took my weekly look at the insides of a chicken, and IMHO the SUNYAC regular season race shakes out as follows:

Cortland - mortal lock for #1 barring collapse. 

2 - winner of Brockport Oswego game.  Right down to the wire.

3. Loser of Brockport Oswego game, both own a tiebreaker over Potsdam.

4. Potsdam if they win out.  Big obstacle there is Oswego, a Potsdam nemesis of the last few years at J. Welsh on Tuesday, before a regional TV audience.

5.  Plattsburgh is most likely here, favorable schedule for the Cards.  While they won a close one at Memorial Hall, they got walloped at Jerry Welsh in December.

6 SUNYIT, barring a complete collapse.  Need one win to solidfy - with Fredonia on the menu - probably doable.

7. Buff State.  Bengals have seven losses and Potsdam, Plattsburgh, SUNYIT on the schedule.  7-9 is probably most likely scenario.

8. Geneseo - 4-8 - but two home games against cellar dwellers this weekend will probably secure the last spot.

9-11 Fredonia, Oneonta, New Paltz, too many games on the road & against better teams.  Fredonia still not mathematically eliminated, but a lineup of 500 mile bus trip, @Plattsburgh, @ Potsdam, 400 mile bus trip, with snow predicted will most likely take care of that.  People don't realize how far it is from Fredonia to Plattsburgh!!!

Final homestand vs. SUNYIT & Cortland spells 0-4 finish unless Span takes pity on the Devils and gives his reserves serious PT.  With an lock at-large bid and hosting in the mix, he won't jeopardize his current #1 East ranking with any sort of gesture like that.

ergo: Tuesday the 20th looks like:

Geneseo at Cortland
Buff State at Brockport (predicted score 120-110, NBA has nothing on these clubs when it comes to going up and down the hardwood)
SUNYIT @ Oswego
Plattsburgh at Potsdam

all reasonable mid-week road trips for the visitors.

Time will tell.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 10, 2006, 11:53:23 AM
Hey all, been on the board awhile just to lazy to post....

bearseh...i know its no excuse as this team should have a lot of support but to understand it a little better think of the culture of cortland......jock school so you have a lot of athletes....say track hockey and other sports are away......100-150 sports oriented kids not even on campus ,.,......and its a party school so now your games are at 8 on fri/sat..........not saying its right just explaining.......

as far as the team.....i love the depth and versitility........but with that there is no go to player......brockport down 1 or 2 with 10 seconds to go you know ben has the ball....same with oswwego and mims.....yes we have rainieri and he hit a big 3 last year to win a game as well as the buff state win this year...but hes a "big man" and your go to player is usually a guard.........just something to think about......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: docksider on February 10, 2006, 10:59:39 PM
Brockport 62 at SUNYIT 82 
Buffalo State 81 at Potsdam 97 
Fredonia 52 at Plattsburgh 76 
Oneonta 69 at Geneseo 78 
New Paltz 52 at Oswego 76

Those are the results.  Any eyewitness accounts?   

The margins, more than the outcomes, would seem the news of the night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: docksider on February 10, 2006, 11:13:02 PM
IT has 5 players with double figures and wins both halves.  Statistically, turnovers and rebounding explain the margin of victory.  Combined, they give IT 23 more shots.

And from the Bears' website....
"The Bears led in every offensive category in the game, shooting an impressive 51.6% from the field to the Bengals 45.9%. Every Potsdam player that played scored in the game as the Bears were led by the game high scorer Edane Barton (Spring Valley/Colgate University) who dropped 20 of his 26 points in the first half. Scott Mitchell (Brushton/North Country CC) added 17 points and went 4 for 5 from behind the arc. Jehrod Hall (Syracuse/North Country CC) had 11 points and 7 rebounds in the win.

The Bengals had 4 players in double digits with Dion Mozelle (Rego Park/Xaverian) leading the way with 20 points and Jobany Tirado (Syracuse/Corcoran) added 17 points and 11 rebounds in the loss."

Just fillin' in until thebear and beaseh get home or jdex finds an internet hookup.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 11, 2006, 10:19:12 PM
Big win for c-state.........very good crowd for those who were calling for it.........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on February 13, 2006, 12:11:07 PM
Time Warner Sports is televising Tuesday's game between the Oswego Lakers and Potsdam Bears live from Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.  You would never know by checking the Potsdam website  ???, but trust me its on TV, it is regional though only nothern NY will get it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 13, 2006, 08:03:14 PM
I think it will be live in Syracuse too. I saw an ad for it the other day on Time Warner Sports during another college game. I remember last year TWS did a Potsdam-SLU men's game from Welsh Gym. Plus, Potsdam vs. Geneseo ice hockey was on just a few short weeks ago.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 14, 2006, 05:03:25 PM
No more predictions from this poster, at least not until I get some of those chickens thebear has been using.

Looking for BuffState to finally step up last Friday and they play the worst first half of ball imaginable. Talk about thinking long, thinking wrong. They started 3 big guards v. Potsdam in attempt to take advantage of the Bear's 5'7'' guard Scott Mitchell. The first two times they posted Mitchell up, he stole the ball and ignited fast breaks. Adding insult to injury, he canned two open threes in the first 5 minutes with a big guard playing off him to protect against the dribble. By the time Buff went to its usual lineup the Bears were up 10 and rolling. All that kept this thing from looking worse were 20 Bears second half turnovers.

Then, they wacked my "Plattsburg wins out" call by beating the Cards at home on Saturday. I dont even want to discusss Brockport at SUNYIT. Tuesday night the Wildcats were in shambles, Murphy grousing about everything. He even complained that too much time was allowed to remove an injured player from the floor (splinted and transported to the ER).  But, he to, must use chickens in his coaching magic to conjure a win 3 days later.

Good to hear C'State drew a decent crowd Saturday . Every Dragons game is a clinic in disciplined, half court, team ball played by a veteran squad.  Reminds me of Brockport 03-04. Experienced team , rolled through the regular season.  They did, however, lose to Potsdam by 8 in the championship game. Bears shot 51% from the field, 53% from the arc, 73% from the line, and were +4 on the boards. That's the kind of effort it's going to take for anyone to handle the C'Spanners in this year's tourney.

Any takers?






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 14, 2006, 09:48:06 PM
Potsdam putting the proverbial smackdown on Oswego live on Time Warner Sports. Potsdam leads by 18 late.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 14, 2006, 11:04:41 PM
Just back from the Potsdam - Oswego game.  Bears asserted themselves at home against SUNYAC's #2 team, winning 82-68 in a game that was not as close as the final margin.

Potsdam All-American candidate Edane Barton exploded for 20 second half points en route to a career high 29 point outburst, his fifth straight 20 point effort.  In addition Barton added 12 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals and blocked a shot.  He shot only 12x21, but examination of game film (televised regionally on Time-Warner Central NY) will most likely show that most of the misses were obvious fouls not called because the refs wanted to get the game over with.

Barton has had 3 double doubles in Potsdam's 5 game win streak, and is making a strong case for SUNYAC POY honors to go with his pair of Tournament MVP trophies.

Potsdam freshman center Brandon Siskavich had a breakout game, scoring 18 points on 9x11 shooting against Oswego's Mat Burridge, who is a virtual lock for an All-SUNYAC selection.  Oh yes - Siskavich only played 19 minutes due to first half foul trouble.  Siskavich is a fine shooter in the lane and low post, and is developing into a real asset for Potsdam.

Oswego got 15 from Ahmad Mims, but he was completely overshadowed by Barton.  Burridge had 14, and slasher wing Todd Franze added 12.

Potsdam outrebounded Oswego 42-30.  Neither team shot the three well, Potsdam 5x14, Oswego 4x21.  With about 4 minutes left, Oswego was 0-15 from the arc, then hit four of six in late action to trim a 24 point Potsdam lead with about 9 minutes left to the final margin of 14.

Props to Potsdam guard Ernst Ducena.  He completely shackled Oswego PG Nick Perioli, holding him to 5 points, 2 assists in 38 minutes of action.  Ducena's length really hampered Perioli's game, and he got few open looks from outside, going 2x8 overall and 0-5 beyond the arc, it also affected his ability to run the Oswego offense. Ducena struggled with his 3 pt shot, but still added 7 key points.

Potsdam also got a solid relief effort from backup post Tim Reinhardt who added 6 points and a steal, as well as a solid defensive effort on Burridge.

Potsdam will clinch at least a four seed with a win Friday night at conference cellar dweller Oneonta.  Oswego and Brockport meet Saturday night in the conference regular season finale.  The winner will be the two seed.  If Oswego loses, they are the three seed, and Potsdam the four based on a three way tie-breaker.  If Brockport loses, Potsdam moves to a three seed and the Eagles and SUNYIT (if they win over Fredonia and Buff St.) will have to apply tie-breakers to figure out the 4-5 scenario.  (I should have that figured out by tomorrow).

Bears' season is shaping up like '03-04 where a late stretch run led to an upset SUNYAC title, followed by a first-round NCAA tourney victory on the road.  Bears are taking their season one game at a time, which is the right way to do it.

Will post Brockport/SUNYIT tiebreaker scenario tomorrow.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on February 14, 2006, 11:14:46 PM
Watch out Cortland. Potsdam is really starting to mature at the right time. They are going to be a tough out for anyone in the conference tourney.........Also any thoughts on POY? Could there be a possible Barton & Belluci split?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 15, 2006, 07:54:22 AM
Last night I went to Cortland/ New Paltz game.  I live in the Hudson Valley(Potsdam Alum).  I wanted to see if Cortland was really that good 21-2.  Cortland was up 16 at half because New Paltz went cold from the field last 4:00 minutes.  Cortland also shot over 50% for the first half.  Should have been closer.  Second half was different, New Paltz out scored Cortland to win half only losing by 12.  If New Paltz had a big man to stop Taggart and a premier game it would've been an exciting finish.  New Paltz hit very few 3"s. New Paltz had the game down to 6 at one point but could not get closer.  Bonus: Skrelja fouled out with 11:30 left because of a T.  He got mad at the foul call and ran at the ref.  Foul 4 and 5.  Bear thanks for the run down on Potsdam/Oswego game.  Looks like the SUNYAC tournament will be interesting.  Their was a post about how Cortland doesn't have a go to person.  I have to agree.  They are a solid team will no superstars.

The team that beats Cortland  will have to have a solid post player and not allow offensive rebounds.  I believe that they will not win the SUNYAC tournament for the above reason.  My prediction a Potsdam/Brockport final in Utica with Potsdam once again going to the tournament because Edane Barton will be the next Potsdam All-American.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 15, 2006, 11:39:19 AM
Clearly only 2 candidates for POY: B'ports Ben Bellucci and Potsdam's Edane Barton.

Here's a current league stat comparison:

                                            Barton                            Bellucci

Scoring                                    2nd                                 1st
Rebounding                             1st                                  13th
Off Reb                                    2nd                                  6th
Def Reb                                    1st                             Not in top 15
FG %                                       .512                                  .512
FT %                                        .71                                     .81
3 %                                    Not in top 15 (40%)              3rd (51.6%)
Assists                                     3.1 / gm                             4.0 / gm
Steals                                  3rd                     Not in top 15

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 15, 2006, 12:20:35 PM
Gotta' learn how to type...



                                            Barton                         Bellucci

Minutes Played                      28/gm                        32/gm
Assist/TO Ratio                        11                               10


Plenty of  ammo to make a case for either of these outstanding players.

The bottom line...there are 8 or 9 SUNYAC teams that are worth a drive to see when matched against each other; but Barton is the only indvidual player in the league who will get me to drive to Potsdam and back on a Tuesday night (5 hours drive time) to see the game live when it's  televised locally. You really need to see Barton to believe him.  In any given game he's likely to play any or every position on the floor from the point to the post - at 6'3" and maybe 185 lbs. No one can match up with him 1 on 1. He has explosive quickness, huge ups, and amazing strength for his size. And, as I've said before, even his turnovers are headscratchingly special. Top this off with a huge GPA, a consistenlt positive sportsman's attitiude on and off the court and you've got the student athlete of the year, most versitle player of the year, POY.


Serious props to several other team MVPs:

Lakers Nick Perioli. Individual stats have not been eye-catching except 37 min / game. Huge. Lakers can't play without him n the floor.

Cortland's Frank Raineri. Every set runs through him and he defines the character of the Dragons.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 15, 2006, 01:52:26 PM
On the POY debate........I don't see any Dragon away games.....from what I saw Cortland had a home and home with Brockport but only played Potsdam once(unless I missed something).........So i only saw Ben once and never saw Barton....except for the 30 seconds I watched last night flipping through channels...so here are the two's numbers against Cortland

Ben @ Cortland 4-13... 13 points...3 asst....4 boards....5 fouls....4 turnovers
       @ Brockport 8-20...20points...3 asst....10 boards....1 foul.....8 turnovers

Barton @ Potsdam 6-15 ....16 points...2 asst....13 boards....2 fouls....6 turnovers..

Ben went for 30 against potsdam while Barton had 10 and was in foul trouble......


Like my boy says.....its easy to score 30 against NP...so numbers arent the best indicator.....i can remember the brockport game in which i went home thinking ben had 6-10 points....it was a very quiet 13..as far as who scares me more it is barton first aginst cortland (earlier post noted team needs to keep dragons off offensive boards) then mims....and maybe even rother before Ben because of his history.....should be a good SUNYAC tourney.......

and for bearseh......a busfull of rowdy cortland students may or may not be traveling to Utica....create a better environment for our boys
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 15, 2006, 02:31:40 PM
cstate19:

Fill up the bus. The Utica Aud needs noise. Last year the Aud "crowd" for the chanpionship was one of the smallest that Potsdam played in front of all year, and you've got to be able to handle playing in front of a large crowd to win in the NCAAs.

I like the on campus atmosphere in the Empire 8 tourney - hot, noisy, venues. Sure, somebody gets a home court advantage. So it goes. Would love to see SUNYAC rotate the tourney among the schools. Just some great facilities - Buff State, Oswego, Cortland, Oneonta, Potsdam, SUNYIT...and more. Would rather be crammed in than choose from a couple thousand empty seats.

Two years ago in the tourney Penn State-Behrend packed 900 people into 800 seats and the atmosphere was electric. Last year the Potsdam crowd raised the roof in the second round game v. Salem State.

The Aud will never provide the level of excitement that the conference tourney deserves.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on February 15, 2006, 03:52:11 PM
Pictures from Potsdam's games vs. Buff state, Fredonia (senior night), and Oswego
www2.potsdam.edu/schild96
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 15, 2006, 05:01:13 PM
bearseh:

i completely agree.......my friends and i have debated this for the last couple of games this season........the only good point if opposition was traveling isssues (say a lower seed wins on friday they have to travel to the higher seed on saturday).....i debated that point by having the entire tournament at the top seeds place.......why not??? they have earned it....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2006, 05:17:58 PM
I think a former SUNYAC head coach with two national titles, Five trips to the final four, and nine elite 8's (Who could that be. . . hint - Potsdam's Gym is named for him) has been telling Damore (SUNYAC Commish) that since the first time the games were in the aud. 

Apparently the problem is the SUNYAC staff is too small to cover two venues on tournament weekend, and gender equity rules insist that the women's regular season champ must have the same hosting opportunity as the men's so unless the same school wins both regular season titles, the women's tournament would have to be at a different site.  Having a "neutral" facility and a combined championship meets the gender equity rules.  Those rules are specific and on every athletic administrator's mind.

I remember when Potsdam, Albany, and Buff State had SUNYAC playoff wars in the 80's  Sites were rotated East to West in alternating years. 

in '84-85, Potsdam finished second in the country to North Park (lost by a pt.) but LOST the SUNYAC semi to Buff State at Albany.  Potsdam, (27-3) at the time, then had to go on the road in the NCAA regionals, where they beat Buffalo State.  In those days, the gyms were packed over an hour before tipoff, 3,000 + screaming fans, miles of toilet papers and thousand's of computer punch confetti.  THAT was playoff atmosphere.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2006, 05:36:08 PM
POY Update

Actually Barton is shooting 48% from three in SUNYAC games, just doesn't have enough made 3FG's to meet the standard.

In a scary thought, he is the FOURTH option of the starters for shooting the trey.

Freshman Damon Brown (23x42 .548)
PG Scott Mitchell (25x49 .510)
Senior Wing Ernst Ducena (39x85 .459 - lifetime 45% 3 pt shooter)

Bears are shooting .455 from the arc in conference games.  Ranked #3 nationally in 3pt FG%.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 15, 2006, 05:44:37 PM
I dont by the small staff stuff.........what happens in every other SUNYAC sport (i believe)??????  baseball....soccer...track.....list goes on and on.........get it changed....this isnt the ACC or Big East.....whats the difference between 1 through 4 seeds.......you get 1 home game each!!! in a conference where the top 4 teams all have a shot, why not give the teams that work the hardest during the regular season alittle advantage.....get it changed....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2006, 06:45:23 PM
Agreed.

A great team wins at home and on the road.  If the 1 seed hosts, some advantage, but if the contending teams are good enough, it just adds some spice.  Important thing is to make sure that the visitors get a reasonable amount of seating.

Of course, Potsdam has a corner on that market, they won their '80-81 national title in overtime on the home court of their opponent.  Don't think that's been done since.


Peace
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 15, 2006, 08:59:53 PM
An offensive year in SUNYAC. Here's how they stack up in league play: PF/PA

Points For:

Brockport
Buff State
Potsdam
Oswego
SUNYIT
Geneseo
Cortland
Plattsburg
New Paltz
Oneonta
Fredonia

All top 8 make the tournement.

Points Against:

Cortland
Fredonia
Plattsburg
Oswego
Oneonta
Potsdam
Geneseo
SUNYIT
New Paltz
Brockport
Buff State

2 of top 8 don't make tourney.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 15, 2006, 09:15:34 PM
Player of the year or not, I got a pair of Red Dragons I watched the other night that are running away with it.  In other words... It's a Two Dragon race.   Frank Ranieri and Simon Skrelja are the senior leaders and co-captains of a team that hasn't really been challenged aside from a fluke loss to Oswego.  These guys do it all.  Skrelja with the fly-overs, and Ranieri with the bi-ceps.  Wins and losses people.  These guys are winners.  I even saw them helping old women across the street after the Brockport win.  Admirable human beings that belong at the top of the voting for SUNYAC POY.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2006, 11:25:21 PM
Agreed Ranieri and Skrelja are a big part of Cortland's success, but similar to last year, when Potsdam wins both regular season and tournament titles, POY didn't go to the Bears.

Potsdam has 4 All-SUNYAC selection, but Zera of Geneseo wins POY.  admittedly leading scorer, but his team was middle of the pack.

Unselfish teams often win the league title, but SUNYAC tends to reward scorers. 

IMHO, Taggart is the reason Cortland is 15-1 this year.  So far, no one in the conference has an answer for him.  He's the only major add to last year's team, and plugs the one hole in C-State's armor, a legitimate force in the paint.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 15, 2006, 11:54:45 PM
 I have to agree about Taggart for Cortland.  Very physical player similar to Hauben for Uof R.  Last year in elite 8 game Potsdam couldn't stop Hauben.  If any team wants to win SUNYAC title they have to stop Targgart in the paint.  Cortland isn't a perimeter team.  Thay don't score a lot of points but will shut you down with tough D.  That being said I still believe they can be beat because they don't have a go to guy late in a close game on a neutral court. 

Back in the day there wasn't anything like a good Potsdam vs Albany vs Buff State game at Maxcy.  A keg or 2 before the game and 3000+ fans going crazy.  When was the last time a SUNYAC team sold out their home court.  I look at the attendence on line and most school can't get more then 500 fans to watch their games.  Maybe this is why the game is played in Utica because the alumni can go to the games because of location.  Students would rather play PS2 then go watch some great D3hoops.   I will be driving 2 hours each way to watch Potsdam friday.  The new gym at Oneonta holds 4000 I believe they will have maybe 300 and most of them will be Potsdam loyal fans.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 16, 2006, 12:13:32 AM
Nick -

Ask the Dragons if they've been "really challenged" this year.
Two wins over a Brockport team that doesn't play defense by a total of 3 points.
2 point win over Buff State - who, by the way, typically plays less D than Brockport.
Which of those were "fluke" wins?
Plus 6 over a fair SUNYIT team - a real blowout by these standards.
Meeting both Oswego and Potsdam only once...is a big scheduling plus.

What I've enjoyed most about C'State this year is that they have been challenged and have met those challenges with disciplined, team ball. No POY here but, possibly, the SUNYAC team of the year. We'll see in about 10 days.

Re: Simon - I know he's a C'State favorite son, but, really...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 16, 2006, 12:35:36 AM
Who goes to the Aud?

Player's parents, relatives, friends, neighbors, girl friend or boyfriend; a handful of students from each participating school willing to burn class and who have a place to crash in Utica - or don't mind the 5 - 6 hour round trip to Brockport, Potsdam, Plattsburg; a handful of each participating school's local fans (typically retired so time off isn't an issue); half a dozen of the CNY (Syracuse) basketball cognescenti for face time; a few Utica locals. That's it. Alumni? More like alumnus.

The Aud will be empty and colorless once again for what should be the flag ship event of the basketball season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 16, 2006, 06:25:11 AM
Beareh You either go to Potsdam or went to Potsdam.  When was the last time Maxcy/Jerry Welsh had a huge crowd for a regular season SUNYAC game?  How many people went to see the Cortland game this year?  I live 6 hours from Potsdam, I watch more Potsdam games then the students that attend school there.  There was once a time when the Potsdam/Cortland would've had a crowd of over 3000 for a regular season game not 500.  Cortland is a jock school and only had a crowd of 900 for a huge game vs Brockport.  Most student who now attend school in the SUNY sysytem do not attend their home schools game look at the numbers.  I believe if any school were to host the conference tournment there would not be a sell out game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on February 16, 2006, 06:56:43 AM
no Mims for POY?? just a consideration..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2006, 07:58:47 AM
If you were at Potsdam the other night, you would probably say no.

He may not be the best player on his own team, Burridge is a solid force in the middle, with skilled post moves.  In addition, Mims plays with Perioli, without Nick, I'm not sure Mims would be as good as he is.

Barton really dominated Mims, Mims nearly fouled out, and was switched to guard another player, he just couldn't guard Barton in the paint.

Barton 29 pts 12 rebounds (6 O 6 D) 5 assists, 1 block, 4 steals 32 minutes

Mims 15 pts, 4 rebounds (3 O 1 D), 3 blocks, 2 steals 30 minutes.

Oswego is a good team with 3 likely all-SUNYAC players.  That being said, they may actually be underachieving this year.  As a team they are shooting poorly from the arc, which allows teams to pack it in on them.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 16, 2006, 10:09:45 AM
the bear fans go crazy with posts while i am away from my computer.....

my thoughts....

1)simon is an extremely valuable player to cortland....tonesetter....energy off the bench...extreme matchup problem at the 1....senior leader....etc.....POY???? not top 10.....how many MVP votes does teddy bruschi get a year????

2) taggart is the reason cortland is 15-1.......any big man with size and who can walk straigh goes higher then the SUNYAC....thats why he is such a problem.......the best part about him is he gets most of his points by way of offensive rebounds......

3) cortland is not a perimeter team????? who said that???? have you seen them play?? the ball is always on the perimeter waiting to get into jutton (not his best year but a very clutch player look for a big postseason play or two from him) or maggicamo's hands..... not a perimeter team.....wow

4) the fan attendanc (particularly the student body) is pathetic.......i think i gave some reasons in an earlier post.......the idea of having the entire tournament of the final four at the #1 seeds place is not to sell out or get a better environment so much as it is to reward them for being the #1 seed......as it stands now there is no advantage of being a #1 any more then a #4......#1 doenst have to travel, and plays on their court......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2006, 11:48:20 AM
Cstate19 - no disrespect here.

I think what bearseh means is that Cortland has a couple of shooters, but relies on Ranieri, Skrelja, and Taggart, not to meantion Headley (unsung hero) for a pretty good hunk of their scoring.  Skrelja and Taggart might make a three if they get lucky, Ranieri can shoot it, but he's only made 3x10 in the conference this season, not someone you would focus on.

Maggiacomo is a great spark off the bench, and can shoot the rock. 

If you look at Potsdam, their PG, Wings, and PF are all three point shooters you have to respect - Damon Brown (23x42 .548)  , Scott Mitchell (25x49 .510), Ernst Ducena (39x85 .459), Edane Barton (11x23 .478).  In addition, the center, Brandon Siskavich has very good range for a 6'7" post. 

The point is that with Cortland you have two guys, three at most that can shoot the three.  With Potsdam, everyone except the post is a legitimate 3 point threat, if you challenge them on the perimeter it opens up the inside, and Brown and Barton are very quick athletic players who love to take it to the rack.

Brown & Mitchell are new to the lineup since Cortland played Potsdam, and they change the Bears' game from what the Dragons saw earlier.

Potsdam shooting 3 pt @ .455 for 15 SUNYAC games, while holding opponents to .296 beyond the arc.  When you talk perimeter team, that's what Bearseh means.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 16, 2006, 11:49:43 AM
Bearnation:

At the tender age of 61, not currently enrolled! An Oswego alumnus, class of '66.
Got hooked on SUNYAC basketball watching Ron Davis at Oswego when I was a kid and Bears basketball in the 80's for obvious reasons.

You're correct. SUNYAC students do not typically support their athletic teams with strong attendance. Lots of reasons I am sure we agree on, including too little time and so many choices. Additionally, I do believe the institutions and conference do an abysmal job promoting and marketing their sports within both their academic and larger communities and that is a significant, contributing factor to low attendance. Be glad to discuss this at length off-line - but staging the tourney at the Aud is an example.

I agree that a campus based tournamnet will not sell out - without promotion over time. But dollars to donuts, go to the 1 seed campus, or Jamesville-DeWitt high school, and it will immediately and significantly out draw the Aud. More importantly, traditions are built over time. The tradition that's been built at the Aud? It's more fun to IM, watch ESPN, or get a root canal.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on February 16, 2006, 11:58:23 AM
Not really sure who started the converstation about the #1 seed hosting all of the game that would have usually been played in the aud.  but i love the idea!  Cortland has the best floor/gym in the conference behind only o-state.  The lack of #'s in the seats i don't believe would be an issue in the playoffs as they can be in the reg. season here at cortland.  i used to play at randolph-macon and even as the #1 team in the country, we would have games with more empty seats than full.  Come playoff time and NCAA tourney.... we had students and adults camping outside of the area waiting for tickets.  The same could hold true here at cortland, and worst case... it would be better than playing in the 60* aud where its too cold to even work up a sweat.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 16, 2006, 11:59:59 AM
Did I ever suggest Cortland was or was not a perimeter team?  

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 16, 2006, 12:31:23 PM
Belucci is the POY

He leads the conference in scoring by like 6 ppg.

He shoots a high percentage from everywhere.

Most importantly he has done a lot of damage from the PG position from Brockport, the most important position on the floor.

He manages to score and do all the little things while running a solid SUNYAC squad

**Before we count Ranieri's Bi-ceps out of the hunt it should be said that he is playing without the little toe on his left food (zoo visit gone wrong).  A man that can persevere like that deserves POY consideration.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 16, 2006, 12:36:18 PM
One more factor....When Barton and Belucci went head-to head:

Belucci                     Barton
30 pts                      10pts

Brockport win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2006, 02:40:12 PM
That game was at Brockport, where, as documented on this board (By a brockport fan), the zebras were not having their best night.  A bunch of Bellucci's points came from the line late in the game, as Potsdam had to foul to try to get closer.

Barton played only 16 minutes before fouling out courtesy of said incompetent zebras.  My guess is that had he been able to play his normal complement of 27-30 minutes, the game would have been much closer.
With the unbalanced schedule, Ben won't get to experience the reverse treatment in the North Country.

Since that Potsdam - Brockport Game, since the coaches are voting now, these are the games that will be remembered Played since that day.

          Barton                Bellucci
Record  5-0                    2-2
Pts          24.6               18.3
Rebs       10.6                 4.5
Ast          3.0                   3.5
Blk           0.4                    --
Stl           2.2                     .7
2 FG %   56%                   50%
3 FG       7                        10
3 FG %   50%                   45%
FT %      64%                    80%

Since the Brockport game, Barton has been called for 5 fouls in five games.

Bellucci had five against Cortland, where they forced him to play defense.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 16, 2006, 03:48:59 PM
I dont really know what the last 5 games really matter.  All i was saying is that, head-to-head Ben was 20 points better.  Referees are often incompetent and the good players adjust.  Im not sure the award is for the SUNYAC Player of  5-random games in the middle of the season.  The award is for an entire year.   Barton is like 4th in scoring in the SUNYAC.  Although scoring doesn't tell everything it is often the most important criterion when deciding individual basketball awards.  Ben has scored and made his teammates for an entire season.  That is a player of the year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2006, 04:46:31 PM
There is a stat system called Tendex, that uses all aspects of a game to eveluate a player's performance.  As of Tuesday night, the tendex shows Barton with 523 points in 675 minutes.  Bellucci has 518 points in 796 minutes.

Barton leads Bellucci by a bunch in rebounding, Asts to Turnovers, Blocked Shots and Steals, which offsets Bellucci's edge in scoring.

Then, this system, calculates pts/minute played, which gives Barton a big advantage, and also factors in the pace at which the team plays.  Since 'port plays no defense and a run & gun style, they get a lot more scoring opportunities.  Also, since Barton is the top defensive rebounder in the conference you can bet he doesn't get the cheapie fast break release points that Bellucci seems to always be around for.  Coaches understand that.

It should be a very close call.  P.S. the "down the stretch" games are what everyone remembers.  That's why five (not so) random games are important.  Murphy and Broderick are going to freshly remember the game Barton played against them, as are Ansari, Moore, and Minton.

What they aren't going to remember too kindly is Bellucci staying in the game after the outcome was decided to fatten up his scoring stats.  That's not what a POY is.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 16, 2006, 05:53:57 PM
Whew!

Mess with thebear and get torched with the facts.

By the ways, thanks for the Taggart reminder. Sometimes I'll forget the mantra: Defensive, Rebounding, Convert at the Line.

Taggart delivers the second object in a "big" way.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 16, 2006, 07:01:40 PM
I dont really know what this valtrax stat is, but it sounds too complicated.  If you look at efficiency ratings in the NBA you will rarely find that the top guy in the ratings is actually the leagues most valuable player.  So personally, I don't really take those too seriously.  I think you make good points and barton would be a good candidate, but I think the entire year Belucci has had as far as doing everything for Brockport statistically, and being there when they need a PG makes him edge out Skrelja and Ranieri...Oh yeah, and Barton. 

One stat  I do know.  Cortland 21-2 SUNYAC REG. Season champs. 

Ready to do some steamrolling in the tourney
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 16, 2006, 08:25:12 PM
To answer the question of why the SUNYAC plays its conference tournament at the AUD in Utica, find the contract between the SUNYAC and the city of Utica.  You will then find the answer.$$$$$$"S

The SUNYAC gets no love, top team(Cortland) is 21-2 and only 15 votes on the top 25.  Maybe the league should come up with a promotion.  Just visited Potsdam web site anyone with a Potsdam id or a proof of residence for Potsdam gets into the game free Tuesday night.  If Jerry Welsh/Maxcy isn't full they should give back all of the trophies. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2006, 09:39:06 PM
bearnation - not quite so fast.

The problem is the school is on a "mini break' this weekend, with no school Monday and Tueday.

Many Potsdam students won't get back to campus until the game is over, as Mom will expect to feed them before they leave for Potsdam.

Hence the promotion, to try to drum up community interest etc.  Since we will be a few students short on Tuesday night.

Bearseh - Facts are great, unfortunately some people don't like the facts, when opinion serves their purposes better.  Speaking of facts, I thought Valtrax  was a drug they advertise on cable to be used to treat a certain viral social disease.

The tendex system I was describing is similar to the one used for college bb by CBS Sports line,

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/playerrankings/regularseason/OVERALL

the 1-2-3 in that ranking as far as player effectiveness are JJ Reddick, Shelden Williams, and Adam Morrison.  That tells me there's a pretty good correlation between productive players and successful teams.

If you look at Barton's stats and Shelden Williams' stats they're eerily similar
although Barton gets his points and rebounds in less time than Williams.

As a certain DA (& wife of a former Bear coache) bearseh, bearnation and I know would say, I rest my case.

"Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts" __ Sgt. Joe Friday


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on February 16, 2006, 09:47:31 PM
and the Crowd goes wild for theBear!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 16, 2006, 11:06:21 PM
Eeeeeeeasy pandas,

Lets not compare apples and oranges.  Edane Barton does not go through the rigors of an ACC schedule every year.  While Cortland is a juggernaut, they are certainly not North Carolina or Maryland.  I like your Tendex thing, and I used the word Valtrax knowingly to emphasize what little I knew about your system.  You bears fans are like a couple of grizzlies tumbling through a dumpster.  Anyway, I am valuing the stats as well as opinion.  I think every coach that has a vote will weigh their personal opinion for POY.  I just think the year Bellucci is having can't be argued against.  Head-to-head 30 pts to 10 pts for Barton.  And if you want to bring in garbage points, Barton scored several "meaningless" buckets when the game was decided against Cortland. 
Lets not mention that he got dunked on by Si "fly-high puddin'-pie, in your eye, make you wanna cry" Skrelja.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 16, 2006, 11:34:01 PM
Bear,  I have faith that the good students of SUNY Potsdam will leave that last meatball on the platter, start their engine to drive north to support their team.
The good folks of the north country truely know the hand that feeds them and will be there to support the Bears digging through the dumpster for a meal of there SUNYAC opponent.  Then it is off to Utica because like it or not this is the chosen path.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2006, 07:16:26 AM
On a more serious note, tonight has a slate of four SUNYAC games.

Matchups and their tournament implications

Potsdam (10-5) at Oneonta (2-12)

Potsdam win and they clinch at least a 4 seed and a home game.  Oneonta
is playing for pride.  Coming off Tuesday's emotional win at Oswego. Dobbs will keep his players focused on the business at hand - one game at a time.
Oneonta coming off a 37 point loss at Oswego last Saturday will be playing hard to regain some respect.

Geneseo (6-9) at Cortland (13-1)
Probable preview of SUNYAC 1-8 first round game.  Cortland playing to maintain their #1 regional seed with central location and exclellent facility probable hosting site for the first three NCAA rounds.  A win for Geneseo would cement the 8 seed. At least the coaches won't have to spend a lot of time scouting and watching film for Tuesday's game.

SUNYIT (8-6) at Fredonia (4-10)
SUNYIT still alive for a four seed.  Has to keep winning to retain the 5 seed as Plattsburgh has a much easier schedule for the weekend.  Fredonia's deliberate style may frustrate the "run & gun" Wildcats.  Fredonia's much more competitive at home with upset wins vs. Brockport and Plattsburgh.

Plattsburgh (7-7) at New Paltz (2-13)
Plattsburgh pretty much a lock for a 6 seed, but looking at a 5 if they win out and IT loses one this weekend.  New Paltz playing for pride on senior night.

Based on the outcome of these four, will update tomorrow's games in the AM.

Pretty ugly weather forecast here, Potsdam to Oneonta, Plattsburgh to New paltz, IT to Fredonia, Geneseo to Cortland all may be rough trips today. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Grutte Dirk on February 17, 2006, 10:21:10 AM
Is there a forum that discusses SUNYAC sports not found on D3sports.com?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on February 17, 2006, 12:38:13 PM
Nick: I'm a bit confused about a statement of yours'. You stated that Barton got some cheap baskets at the end of the Cortland game when the game was already decided. I was at that game and if my memory serves me right, I remember it being a tied game with 5 minutes to go. Yes, Cortland won by 9, but they had to scratch and dig for that win. They do have a very good team. As far assaying that Bellucci had 30 and BArton 10 when they played head-to-head, that comparison can't be made as they did not guard one another. They both deserve POY, but maybe the next 2-4 games will give one of them the edge. Remember: Barton was Playoff MVP for the past 2 years, I guess that cream truly rises to the top.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on February 17, 2006, 02:08:22 PM
Just got word that 81 south is closed, what happens if the Potsdam/Oneonta game is not played? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2006, 02:52:31 PM
I understand, from the college's web site, that the game for tonight has been ppd due to weather.  (No safe way to travel through 200 + miles of mountain roads that lay between here and Oneonta.)

The web site also tells me the game has been rescheduled for Sunday, women play at 1PM, men at 3PM.

Because of the log jam at the 2,3,4,5,6 seeds, the men's game has playoff implications over just about every scenario imaginable.  The women's game has playoff implications as the Oneonta women need the win to secure a home playoff game.

Typical SUNYAC down to the wire finish, ppd 1 day.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 17, 2006, 06:45:09 PM
Cortland and Geneseo are playing tonight at 8pm

http://www.bcmonsters.com
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 17, 2006, 07:07:22 PM
a flurry of posts.........gotta love postseason time
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 17, 2006, 08:41:24 PM
Geneseo 39 Cortland 29  HALF

Awful first half effort by the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 17, 2006, 09:17:45 PM
wow........so happy right now i chose not to go to tonights game.....yuck......reason why im not upset cstate isnt getting votes
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2006, 09:29:02 PM
Geneseo has size, and plenty of it.  They are the one team that has the horses to keep a big body on Taggart.  Spears, Howe, & Sciera are all big fellas, who are custom built for a deliberate half court game.

If McDonnell is shooting well, and Kitson is the conference ROY we saw last year, this can be a dangerous team.  Kling is a talented first year from a storied HS program, and by this time in the year, is really a veteran.  Morton is another freshman with talent.  Geneseo desn't match up well with an athletic team with race-horse talent, but they can field a nice team.

Hopefully Cortland will still get to host a first round NCAA game with three losses, but the committee has done sillier things in the past.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2006, 10:03:44 PM
Geneseo 76 Cortland 70

SUNYIT 87 Fredonia 68 - IT comes back from a 9pt. halftime deficit to outscore Devils 51-23 (ouch!) in the second half.  T.Anderson (Fredonia) 31pt effort wasted in the loss.

Plattsburgh NP game delayed to 9:30 due to a highway closure en route. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 17, 2006, 10:19:53 PM
Just got back from Oneonta.  Left early to visit Baseball Hall of Fame with my son.  If you haven't been since the remodel, go it is great. Very disappointed about game being cancelled,  bottom line the school made correct call. Safety first.

Just did quick look at Cortland/Geneseo  Box score:  I wasn't there just going by numbers.  Taggart 10 points in 23 minutes, Skrelia 4/28, Ranieri 14/36 and finally Maggiacome 20/23.  When I made the post about Cortland not being a perimeter team, What I was saying was that their offensive is not designed to use perimeter shooting as the first option.  They look to score in the paint first.  This didn't happen tonight and they lost.  Yes, Maggiacome can shoot and yes he did shoot and because they had to shoot from behind the arc they lost.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on February 17, 2006, 10:27:54 PM
Geneseo is legit. They played Fisher very tough in the Chase for the first 25 minutes before going ice cold. That'd be an interesting matchup if those two had to meet again in the 1st round of SUNYAC's. What does this loss do for Cortland's at-large chances if they don't win the conference tourney?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Finished For Now on February 17, 2006, 10:42:42 PM
Plattsburgh - New Paltz score anyone?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 18, 2006, 12:27:26 AM
Plattsburgh 113 New Paltz 58
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 18, 2006, 01:56:33 AM
bottom line......its a good wake up call......gotta see them again next weekend......im actually happy.....you can bet that CState will be fired up next time around......plus my loud mouth will be there....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 18, 2006, 06:37:36 AM
I tip my hat to Plattsburgh.  I'm not sure why game was delayed until 9:30PM (most likely great amounts of snow in the Adirondacks) against New Paltz.  As a team they shot 67.2%, 13 players scored, 4 had double digits another had 9.  Team was lead by Gribbs-Smith with 22.  Geat job.  Whatever they did to get ready for this game should become their standard because it worked.

We are down to the final days of the regular season and the outcome of who is playing where is still in question.  Except for the first seed, the rest are up for grabs.  This is what makes the SUNYAC a premier league.  Balance and excitement.  They may not get their due respect from the outside but they play very exciting basketball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2006, 07:50:08 AM
Plattsburgh game was delayed because the Northway was closed north of Glens Falls due to a bad accident.  At one time yesterday, all four major North South routes out of Northern NY were closed due to accidents/downed trees and power lines.  We had sustained 40-50 mile winds, and gusts up to hurricane force.  Very little snow, but the central Adirondacks got pounded.

Props to Curle & Co, often untoward delays can mess with visitor's psyche.

Just visited the local clutch of chickens and as far as I can tell this is the scoop on today's SUNYAC lineup.

Afternoon game

SUNYIT (9-6) at Buffalo State (7-8)

SUNYIT still has a chance at the four seed, but needs help.  Must win for the Wildcats.  If the Bengals lose, they drop to the 8 seed and have to play at Cortland.  I'm sure they would rather win, stay as a 7 seed, and not draw Cortland in the first round.  Teams pretty evenly matched, very athletic, not much defense will be played, but should be fun to watch.  Last game for Buff State's Greg Jones, Jobany Tirado, and Lester McNair.  Senior night cames can have unexpected outcomes.

Early Evening game:

Plattsburgh (8-7) @ Oneonta (2-12)

Tip moved to 6:00 due to Plattsburgh's late start last night.
Plattsburgh must win to stay at 7 losses.  If IT loses to Buff State, and Plattsburgh wins this, Cards own the tiebreaker and will have the 5 seed.

Oneonta playing for pride, coming off pounding at Oswego.  Cards have too much size and athleticism for undersized Dragons, who have been decimated by injuries to post players.

Late Game

Oswego(11-4) at Brockport (10-5)

The main event.  Probably the single most significant game played in the conference this year.  (Cortland's lead was too big when Oswego beat them)

Oswego win gives them the 2 seed and Brockport drops.  How far, 3,4,5 depends on the outcome of the SUNYIT and Potsdam games. 

Yes an Eagle loss and Potsdam/SUNYIT wins, and the Eagles are on the road. (IT Holds tiebreaker with win over Oswego).  Eagles in a must-win for a home game.

Brockport win ties them with Oswego, (and Potsdam if they win at Oneonta).  While Oswego wins head to head tie-breaker with Brockport because of Oswego win over Cortland, Brockport wins a three-way tie breaker due to higher win % among the three teams.

Senior night for Brockport star Ben Bellucci, playing against HS teammate Ahmad Mims, also 'port seniors Kenny Amparo and Jerry Cheves.

Call this one the battle of the snowbelt.  Drive from Oswego to Brockport in winter one of the scariest in the world.

Tomorrow 3PM

Potsdam (10-5) at Oneonta.(2-12 + Saturday's game)

Options will become very clear once Saturday's games are played.  Potsdam still has a shot at a 3 seed. 



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 18, 2006, 11:29:01 AM
Mims played a heck of a game against former C-NS teammate Ranieri at Cortland in their only regular season meeting this year. Mims is a solid athlete with a great wingspan and jumping ability. Hard to believe Mims, Belluci and Ranieri all come from that same program. I wonder how good they were when all three of those guys were seniors?

As for thoughts on the Geneseo-Cortland game last night. Geneseo came in with their game plan and they executed it to perfection. Much like the game plan of Oswego, it focused on a very deliberate offense and tough defense. Though in Cortland's defense, it's hard to keep it close when your opponent's shooting 72% in the first half. Geneseo found that out the hard way on Tuesday against 'Port when BRK shot 77% in the 2nd half in a blow out win. Cortland defense wasn't as good as usual. They let Geneseo get a lot of open looks created by dribble penetration. Their big guys played well too but weren't overwhelming. Taggert spent most of the game in foul trouble. He picked up a ticky tack foul for his fourth midway through the 2nd and sat just about the rest of the night.

Cortland offense looked sluggish. 44% in the first half from the floor but not on very good shot selection. The Knights played good perimeter defense and didn't allow Jutton and Maggiacomo very good looks. Headley also had a very pedestrian night with only four points. When Headley's scoring and grabbing offensive boards, the team is doing well. Lots of credit for Geneseo goes to Joe Kling. He does look like Shaggy from Scooby Doo, but he plays a solid game. He forced a lot of the action at Cortland with dribble penetration and just out working the Dragons. Kitson pretty much disappeared and had a quiet night. Morton played a solid game but needs to stop whining to the refs. Every call against him was contested.

If anything for Cortland it was a wake up call. They can't just show up and mow teams over. That's a given but its always nice to have the point reinforced. I think it hurts their Pool C chances if they don't win the SUNYAC. On paper, its a loss to a sub .500 team at home late in the season. If anything, I'm sure the Dragons would like another shot at Geneseo on Tuesday, but they may very well see Buffalo State. On a side note, the officiating last night was just downright brutal. I don't like to rag on the refs a lot, but some of the calls and non-calls last night were absolutely ridiculous. At one point, Jutton loses the ball and it bounces off his face out of bounds and the sideline official says Cortland ball. He quickly changed it once he realized what he did. One can hope that only the best officials in the conference are at the Aud next weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 18, 2006, 12:32:21 PM
thats what ive been asking for the last two years???? mims rainieri and ben couldnt get their team to glens falls?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2006, 09:30:12 PM
Scores in so far

Now 10-6 SUNYIT defeats Buff State (now 7-9) 91-83 dropping Bengals to an 8 seed, and an all-expenses paid trip to Pete's Palace on Tuesday.  As predicted lots of scoring, little defense played.

SUNYIT axiously awaiting result of Oswego @ Brockport, as 'port loss and Potsdam win on Sunday could move Wildcats to a 4 seed, and send the Eagles to Utica as the visitors.

In an upset of epic proportions, 2-12 Oneonta beats Plattsburgh, knocking the Cards to a 6 seed. Plattsburgh has a Jekyll & Hyde Weekend, winning by 53 last night vs a 2-13 team, then losing tonite 74-63 to the now 3-12 Dragons!!

Sean Coffey on Senior Day lights up for 25 including 6x11 beyond the arc, and Jaysen Murphy & Josh Wysocki each add 14.

Plattsburgh ace Kris Gibbs-Smith has 16 in the loss on 5x13 shooting with 5 turnovers.

11-4 Oswego leads 10-5 Brockport 60-43 @ Tuttle North with 7:14 to go in the second half.  Oswego win locks the two seed, Brockport is a 3 or 5
depending on Potsdam game tomorrow.

SUNYIT owns tie breaker over Brockport in the event of a two-way tie, as they split, both lost twice to Cortland, but SUNYIT has a win over Oswego vs. two losses for Eagles.

If Potsdam wins, they are the three, SUNYIT is the four, and Brockport is the five.

If Potsdam doesn't win (shudder) - don't want to think about it.  Won't be thinkin negative tonite.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2006, 09:50:08 PM
Final Score

Oswego St (12-4) defeats host Brockport St. (10-6) 73-53.  Ahmad Mims has a huge game with 27pts 12rebs, to lay claim to POY consideration.
Brockport star Ben Bellucci, on senior night held to 15 pts, three rebounds.

Oswego clinches the two seed and will host Geneseo on Tuesday.

Brockport currently tied with SUNYIT at 10-6.  SUNYIT owns two team tie-breaker over Brockport.

Potsdam 10-5 plays at Oneonta 3-12 tomorrow at three.  Potsdam win gives them the three seed.  Oneonta clearly dangerous after today's thrashing of Plattsburgh

Three seed will host Plattsburgh

Four five will be remainder of Potsdam, Brockport, SUNYIT cluster.

Typical SUNYAC - regular season supposed to be over tonite, and need to wait until SUNDAY for a decision.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on February 19, 2006, 07:51:22 AM
Going to see Potsdam at Oneonta with my two sons this afternoon. It's about 3 1/2 hours from us (we're near NYC) but haven't seen Potsdam play since I graduated in 1982... so it's about time.

Big thank you to all who post regularly and keep those of us mired in downstate office-life clued in as to what is going on at our old schools. The local papers here often don't carry division 3 scores, much less stories.

PS - re attendance at games - As I remember, even in 80-81, 81-82, when Potsdam was a D-III power, Maxcy was basically empty for games the first semester. You'd go and have maybe 100 people and a couple thousand empty spaces. Actually, it was kind of relaxing! It didn't get crowded and crazy until February, and even then it was mainly kids on campus that went. VERY few locals.  That's just the North Country. It's always going to be Clarkson hockey that gets the love no matter how badly they perform.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2006, 08:42:46 AM
Owen - safe travels.

You bring back fond memories of times past, used to take my two (now grown) the three hours through the mountains from Glens Falls to Potsdam (in the winter) for games.  They always got a kick out of "Uncle Jerry".

GO BEARS  - Potsdam has a home game if they win, so I'm sure Dobbs' will have them up for the game.

Be interested in your thoughts after the game.

(I'm stuck here, a 5 hour ride through the mountains with lake effect warnings in the Tug Hill, has wifey nervious).

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: manofgor24 on February 19, 2006, 05:19:16 PM
I believe when belucci, raneiri, and mims were seniors, they lost to Watertown in the sectionals.  Good team, but Gorman and co. were too much.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2006, 05:41:18 PM
SUNYAC and Potsdam websites have a final

Oneonta 71 Potsdam 69.

:( >:(

Will wait for the SUNY commish to post seeds, as there's a messy (unbalanced schedule) three way tie at 3-4-5.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 19, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
Class AA (or whatever it was then) is always the hardest to get to Glens Falls, because teams have lots of talent. And when you get to the regional level after Section III, you may run into even better teams from the Albany area. Teams need to get the right seeding in the tournament and everything has to fall your favor. Many teams don't even get to Glens Falls. The biggest example I can think of is from my junior year. Elton Brand was the New York State Player of the Year his senior year at Peekskill. His team was upset I believe in the regional playoffs. He was at the Civic Center, but just to receive his award. I think Ranieri, Mims and Belluci (for two years anyways) have had stellar college careers. Hopefully one of the three will be finishing off their college ball in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2006, 06:59:25 PM
Potsdam website showing that Potsdam playing at SUNYIT on Tuesday in a first round game.

Oneonta game was very even throughout.  Teams were tied at the half 31-31.  Potsdam led 63-61 with two minutes left.  Oneonta's Sean Coffey took a three.  Referee called a foul on Potsdam co-capt Ernst Ducena.  Ducena, who's very steady, was called for a technical.  Coffey makes 5x5 from the FT line, giving Oneonta a 66-63 lead.  Remainder of the game was a FT shooting contest.  Potsdam ace Edane Barton had 13 points 14 rebounds despite only playing 26 minutes due to foul trouble.  Coffey had game high 16 points with 10x11 FT shooting.  Potsdam's three freshman regulars combined for 3x20 FG's.

One call makes the difference between a three seed and a home game, and a 5 seed and a road game.  Who says ref's can't make a difference.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 19, 2006, 07:04:52 PM
From the SUNYAC website....

Men's Tournament
Quarterfinals – Tuesday, Feb. 21 (On Campuses)
#8 Buffalo State (7-9) at #1 Cortland (14-2) at 8 p.m.
#7 Geneseo (7-9) at #2 Oswego (12-4) at 8 p.m.
#6 Plattsburgh (8-8) at #3 Brockport (10-6) at 7 p.m.
#5 Potsdam (10-6) at #4 SUNYIT (10-6) at 7 p.m.

Semifinals – Friday, Feb. 24 (Utica Memorial Auditorium)
Winner of #6/#3 vs. Winner of #7/#2 – 1:00 p.m.
Winner of #5/#4 vs. Winner of #8/#1 – 3:00 p.m.

Finals – Saturday, Feb. 25 (Utica Memorial Auditorium)
Semifinal Winners – 1:00 p.m.
(winner receives automatic NCAA bid)

No mention of the tiebreaker that was used to determine the seedings in the Brockport-Potsdam-SUNYIT three way mess.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2006, 07:05:16 PM
Regarding C-NS & Glens Falls.  I lived there for 25 years, have many friends involved with the tournament.

Problem is three D-III studs may not be enough when going up against Albany area, LI and Hudson Valley teams.  Mt. Vernon often has 2 or 3 D-I prospects, usually including a high D-I recruit. LI schools often have at least 1 ACC recruit.  Downstate schools often have players that can't get into college (or JUCO at best) but are great players.

Advantage is there are great games played, particularly at the A and AA levels.

While living there, I got to see Sam Perkins, Chris Mullin, Christian Laettner Dorsey Levens all play in the tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2006, 07:11:23 PM
As I understand it the tiebreaker was win % among the three teams.

Brockport beat Potsdam at Brockport in their only meeting
Potsdam and SUNYIT split - each winning at the other's place.
Brockport and SUNYIT split

so

Brockport 2-1
SUNYIT 2-2
Potsdam 1-3.

Not a great system when a road loss that you don't get to avenge at home drops you from a 3 to a 5 seed.

Alternative is to play double round robin, which with number of sub-par teams this year would probably still result in ties, but limits non-conference play.  When SUNYAC played 20 game schedule, even good teams would have 5 or 6 conference losses, which crippled chances for at large bids.

Just win Baby!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 19, 2006, 07:33:50 PM
Back in the 90's I worked in Peeksill and I believe when Peekskill won the class B state title in 1996 Elton Brand was on that team. I may be wrong because as one gets older the memory gets bad.  I believe he was either a junior or senior when they won.  Peekskill has one of the better programs in the Hudson Valley.  Much like Lourdes in girls hoops. 
While on the subject of high school hoops.  I have relatives in Chateaugay which is why I chose to go to Potsdam plus fell in love with Maxcy Hall.   Any true jock would fall in love with Maxcy Hall.  Looking to see where they are playing their sectional games, Section X is playing just about all their sectional games at SUNY Potsdam.  Down here in the Hudson Valley Section IX plays the semis and finals of all classes at SUNY New Platz. Most games are next weekend which would cause a conflict.  Maybe this is why games are played at AUD in Utica?  Do other sections play tournament games at SUNY schools?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 19, 2006, 07:38:29 PM
Hmm, that's a pretty good list of players.  I missed Elton Brand by a year. He was a senior in 96-97. The 1995-96 team won the Federation title. Peekskill beat St. Dom's in a classic. The same St. Dom's team (still now coached by Rob Pavinelli) went back to Fed's in 96-97 and broke my heart, beating Westhill in the Class B Fed Title game. Westhill went back to the Falls in 97-98, but lost to a scrappy Westhampton Beach team in the NYPHSAA title game.

Just two or three years later, Brand (I can't remember how long Brand was at Duke),  was in the NBA. The only name player I can remember seeing was from Long Island Lutheran during the Federation Championships in 96-97. A 6'6" senior on his way to St. John's. He wasn't running into the crowd or sponsoring rap albums. The listing in the program (which I still have) is Ronald Artest, Grade 12.

Reading the program, I come across a familiar name, but not one I knew at the time. Christ the King is usually one of the best women's teams in the state. And on the 1996-97 CTK team, 11th grader Sue Bird. Jeez, that makes me the same age as her.

Indiana had their come one, come all state tournament, and other places jam pack areans for basketball. But I'll take the Final Four at the Glens Falls Civic Center any day. It's a little small, and slightly chilly because it serves as a hockey rink, but there's no other atmosphere like it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on February 19, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
You think you might be adding Paul Harris to that list of pros you were proud to see at Glens Falls?  I watched his Niagara Falls team take apart Nottingham in last year's A semi-final.  He really was a man among boys out there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2006, 08:01:51 PM
I had that exact discussion one day with the former supt of schools in Glens Falls, who as it happens is a member, along with his father, (a lengendary coach) of the Indiana basketball Hall of Fame.  He says as great as Glens Falls is, it isn't anything like the Indiana state championships.

He was playing for his dad at the time Milan Ind won the game immortalized in Hoosiers. 

Still, Glens Falls is a great venue.  & This year they have the new indoor waterpark at the Great Escape, so the wife & kiddies can go an not have to go to the games.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 19, 2006, 08:34:51 PM
Doing some on line research to jog my memory.
Peekskill won class C title in 95 Poughkeepsie won Class B both schools are now Class A schools and play some great games
Peekskill moved to class B in 1996 and won both state and federation titles.If my math is correct Brand won state titles his soph and junior years and lost his senior year.
Brand went to Duke 2 years and was drafted #1 by Chicago in 1999.
I remember when Chris Mullen was a senior and he single handed beat the McCrary brothers for Mount Vernon they both went on to play at Louisville.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 20, 2006, 11:44:38 AM
only had 1 trip to glens falls.....went to watch the Beacon Bulldogs led by seniors Macklin and ortquist(sound familiar anyone?) who shoulda beat amityville in the finals....talent i saw was  aj price from amityville, tyler relph who was Mr. Basketball and was at WVU (anyone know what happened?) and the best of em all....greg paulus who was a soph.....

as a cuse fan im excited about everything I hear about Harris

as a cortland guy.........i wish ortquist coulda got his act together.......woulda really helped this cortland team.....also...how many years did headley play with hilton armstrong
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on February 20, 2006, 01:22:31 PM
Quote from: John McGraw on February 19, 2006, 07:38:29 PM
Hmm, that's a pretty good list of players.  I missed Elton Brand by a year. He was a senior in 96-97. The 1995-96 team won the Federation title. Peekskill beat St. Dom's in a classic. The same St. Dom's team (still now coached by Rob Pavinelli) went back to Fed's in 96-97 and broke my heart, beating Westhill in the Class B Fed Title game. Westhill went back to the Falls in 97-98, but lost to a scrappy Westhampton Beach team in the NYPHSAA title game.

Just two or three years later, Brand (I can't remember how long Brand was at Duke),  was in the NBA. The only name player I can remember seeing was from Long Island Lutheran during the Federation Championships in 96-97. A 6'6" senior on his way to St. John's. He wasn't running into the crowd or sponsoring rap albums. The listing in the program (which I still have) is Ronald Artest, Grade 12.

Reading the program, I come across a familiar name, but not one I knew at the time. Christ the King is usually one of the best women's teams in the state. And on the 1996-97 CTK team, 11th grader Sue Bird. Jeez, that makes me the same age as her.

Indiana had their come one, come all state tournament, and other places jam pack areans for basketball. But I'll take the Final Four at the Glens Falls Civic Center any day. It's a little small, and slightly chilly because it serves as a hockey rink, but there's no other atmosphere like it.
I covered the Final Four at the GFCC for the boys tournament and the Final Four for the girls tournament at HVCC, and I vote for the Civic Center hands down for a state basketball tourney.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on February 20, 2006, 04:59:17 PM
the SUNYAC playoffs are starting tomorrow, predictions? Game previews?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 20, 2006, 05:09:21 PM
Lets refocus on the SUNYAC thread.

First round games tomorrow

Buffalo State (13-12, 7-9) at Cortland (14-2, 22-3)
Cortland beat visiting Buffalo State 75-73 in their only meeting this year.

Tough first round game for the #1 seed.  Buff State very athletic, and if they get a lead could give the Dragons problems.

Geneseo (12-13, 7-9) at Oswego (19-6, 12-4)
Oswego won only previous meeting 67-60 at Oswego
Geneseo coming off big win vs. Cortland, Oswego vs. Brockport
Geneseo has a size advantage, and Oswego's strength has been Mims & Burridge inside, and Franze slashing to the basket.  Lakers struggling from the arc.

Plattsburgh (15-10, 8-8) at Brockport (14-11, 10-6)
Brockport swept season series 85-79 (Gibbs-Smith hurt in this game) at 'burgh, then 86-84 squeaker at 'port.

Brockport a three seed by tiebreaker.  Coming off a brutal loss at home to Oswego.  Gibbs-Smith will be in front of his homeboys, and may really be up for this game.  Cards can beat anyone when they bring their A game, but also capable of walkabouts at times.  'burgh defense may be too intense for the Eagles.  Should be some great basketball with Bellucci, Cheves, Amparo, Rother, Gibbs-Smith, Williams, Gorham, A. Miller.

Potsdam (15-10, 10-6) at SUNYIT (14-10, 10-6)
Potsdam beat SUNYIT on 2/7 85-52 in thorough dismantling of Wildcats.  Props to IT mentor Tom Murphy, as he regrouped and has won four straight and a home game.  

SUNYIT beat Potsdam on 1/31 83-71 as the 'cats went to the line 41 times at Jerry Welsh Gym.

Bears smarting from upset loss at Oneonta on Sunday, 'cats want to keep their great turnaround year going.  Should be a dandy.

Four great matchups.

Four ugly road trips (mid-week in winter)
Buff State to Cortland
Plattsburgh to Brockport
Geneseo to Oswego (send out a search party if they don't get there)
Potsdam to Utica.
Every trip through an active lake effect snow belt (or 2).






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on February 20, 2006, 05:45:44 PM
Well, Potsdam v Oneonta was disappointing for my boys first callege b'ball game, not very well played and not very well refereed either. Yes, it was very close throughout, Oneonta's biggest lead was 6 points I think, but the game didn't have much to recommend it :(. I'll leave the commentary to the guys that really know what they're talking about. I'm just a casual fan.

At least the trip was fun. I see where some of the comments about the refs on this board are coming from now. The 2 shot technical plus 3 shot foul leading to 5 consecutive made free throws for Oneonta with about 2 minutes left in the game were killer. Ouch!

Having last seen Potsdam play 24 years ago it was interesting to see how the teams compared. This Potsdam team seemed VERY inexperienced (so many freshmen) and a little sloppy/out of control at times. I guess watching Eddie Jachim, Leroy Witherspoon and Derek Rowland spoiled me. (probably butchered the spelling of the names - sorry!)  Still, there is definitely some raw talent at Potsdam that could make this a very good team next year. Good luck in the SUNYACs.


Took my two boys to the Hall of Fame this morning (baseball, not the soccer one in Oneonta). First time they've been there.  They loved that!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bed on February 21, 2006, 07:14:40 AM
Watch out for SUNY-IT.  They have the best coach in the conference.  One of the best coaches in D3.  His team won't be favored, but don't underestimate the Wildcats if they play Brockport, Cortland, etc.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2006, 08:05:39 AM
Murphy is an excellent coach, no doubt, but the SUNYAC has a number of top notch coaches, who certainly are his equal.  T-Span, Kevin Broderick, Nelson Whitmore, Sherry Dobbs are all first rate X's & O's guys and solid recruiters.   Fajri Ansari at Buff State has a huge rep from the HS level and a number of his HS guys went on to High D-I and the NBA.

Tonight's game should be a dandy.  Potsdam last visit to IT resulted in a 33 point Potsdam victory.  Be interesting to see what changes Murphy makes in his strategy for this game. 

SUNYAC is wide open this year, no dominant team.  (Yes Cortland was 14-2 but most of their games were close, and their two league losses at home).

Anyone can beat anyone in a given game.  Will come down to defense, rebounding, making FT's, and taking care of the ball.  The team that does that best should emerge as the champion.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 21, 2006, 11:54:52 AM
cortland, potsdam, brockport and oswego all 1st round winners....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2006, 12:03:14 PM
My thoughts for All-Conference and Player of the Year

First Team

Edane Barton - Potsdam
Ahmad Mims - Oswego
Ben Bellucci - Brockport
Scott Taggart - Cortland
Chris Reaves - SUNYIT

Second Team
Kris Gibbs-Smith - Plattsburgh
Mat Burridge - Oswego
Simon Skrelja - Cortland
Frank Ranieri - Cortland
Deon Mozelle - Buffalo St.

Honorable mention
Kenny Amparo - Brockport
Jaysen Murphy - Oneonta
Travis Gorham - Plattsburgh
Antoine Gilkes - SUNYIT
Chris Laboard - SUNYIT

Newcomer of the year - Chris Reaves, SUNYIT
Freshman of the year - Joe Kling, Geneseo

Player of the Year - Edane Barton.  Took a team with no returning starters,   8 freshmen & 11 first year players to a third place tie.  Despite being a marked man all year, came up with an incredible, versatile season, scoring, rebounding, assists, steals, hustle.

As the above teams indicate, most of the other POY candidates (Mims, Bellucci) had other strong players in the lineup.

Barton led his team in scoring 16 times, in rebounding 19 times, and had 12 double doubles.  His season compares to the season Brendan Mitchell had when he was named D-III POY at Potsdam.

Any other thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 21, 2006, 12:53:21 PM
Edane Barton has 3 of the top 6 three point shooters (as far as percentage) in the SUNYAC.  I understand your affiliation to Potsdam, Bear, but lets be a little unbiased here.  A team that can spread the floor will open the lanes for a guy like Barton.  Im not saying he isn't talented, but he isnt playing with guys with wooden legs.  Ranieri needs to be first team, taggart second.  Taggart had a great season, but Raineri is the focal point of the offense and the team leader.  Along with Si "fly high....you get the point" Skrelja. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2006, 01:23:11 PM
Taggart is one of the few legit post players in the SUNYAC.  When he's in the game, he's almost unstoppable.  That's why I suggested him for first team.

I used the same logic as last year, when Potsdam C Eldon Harris made first team, despite relatively modest stats.  When Taggart is in the game, you have to change your game plan to handle him.  Gilkes from IT is the same way.

Yes, Potsdam shoots the three well, but if you look those three people make a combined 4.5 3ptrs a game.  Many of which are created by Barton driving to the lane and dishing, or defenses double teaming Barton leaving open looks for the shooters.  He averages nearly three assists a game, and a large number are from him driving then kicking to the shooter at the arc.

Believe me, Barton doesn't get any free looks because of extended defenses. 

If threes really matter, Bellucci has Cheves to extend the defenses, he leads the conference in 3 FG's per game.  He also has Amparo, and Rother to complement him. 

Mims has Perioli and Burridge. 

Corts have Taggart, Ranieri, Skrelja, Maggiacomo, point being these other clubs have lots of weapons, game in and game out.

Potsdam has a lot of role players, and one special player that is the catalyst that makes it all work in what is supposed to be a rebuilding year.

As I said the post was a device to get a conversation started that was on topic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 21, 2006, 03:26:45 PM
Barton is POY........

i think taggart is first and si and frank are second team...good call bear....mr bigmorton has had one to many beast lites......

Nick...any creative chants for tonight??.....or should i just continue to rag the other players appearnces and mannerisms?????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2006, 04:55:12 PM
Best be careful - Buff State's coach is an imam.  No kidding!

At least they have decent uni's this year.  last year's were REALLY ugly so you coulda started there.

Jones will have a bunch of his Syracuse home boys, as will McNair (Ithaca)
They will be lookin to make a statement.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 21, 2006, 05:28:09 PM
Cortland - Buff State

7:45pm EST Pre-Game

http://www.bcmonsters.com
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2006, 07:42:19 PM
Halftime at SUNYIT

SUNYIT 38 Potsdam 37.  SUNYIT leads by 10, 33-23 before Potsdam on an 8-0 run to end the half.

Potsdam 5'7" PG Scott Mitchell leads all scorers with 12 on 4 treys

Chris Reaves leads IT with 11.

Radio reports Potsdam star Edane Barton playing, but "under the weather"

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on February 21, 2006, 07:46:41 PM
I'm having trouble with Potsdam's webcast from their website. Can anyone help out?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2006, 08:31:27 PM
At SUNYIT

End of Regulation

Potsdam 83 SUNYIT 83

Potsdam rallies from 8 pt deficit with 7 minutes left to tie.  IT misses chance to win with :02.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 21, 2006, 08:46:04 PM
HALF

Cortland 48 Buffalo State 34

Ranieri 16pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2006, 08:53:04 PM
In overtime

SUNYIT 97 Potsdam 96.

There will be a new SUNYAC champion.

Reaves had 30.  Edane Barton 32.

Potsdam was 7 down in OT, and came up just short.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 21, 2006, 09:25:37 PM
didnt make it to the game....had to fill a spot in the Y league.....looks like im missing a great effort
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bed on February 21, 2006, 10:03:32 PM
MURPHY does it again.  Big time coaching down the stretch.   Players came through.  SUNY-IT moves to the 2nd Round.

Congrats to Coach Murph!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 21, 2006, 10:09:04 PM
FINALS

Cortland 99 Buff State 84
Oswego 66 Geneseo 62
Plattsburgh 88 Brockport 86
SUNYIT 97 Potsdam 96 OT

Semi-finals on Friday

1:00pm Plattsburgh vs. Oswego (Main Event later on Friday for Oswego vs. Plattsburgh hockey at The Romney)
3:00pm Cortland vs. SUNYIT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: docksider on February 22, 2006, 01:32:07 AM
RE: all sunyac predictions by thebear.

I'd have to switch Ranieri and Taggart (or bump another of your first teamers to leave room for both R and T).  Scott's contributions have been huge, but Frank gets more minutes and is always in when the game is close.  Scott plays less and may or may not be in at the end, depending on situation.   And when he's in, he comes through big time.  There's no stat for leadership, but if there were, Frank, Simon, and Scott would all be at the top, and Frank just might be off the chart.

That said, none of these three would care as much about being all sunyac as they would about winning sunyac and more.  Basketball is a team sport, and Cortland's success is, if nothing else, a reflection of the fact that they get that. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 22, 2006, 01:24:01 PM
i went 2-4 not bad considering the oher two games were decided by 3 compined points......sounded like a good day of basketball......friday's predictions...cortland and oswego move on
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Nick bigmorton on February 22, 2006, 02:11:06 PM
This is the last I want to talk about Barton.  He may get POY and he is obviously a worthing candidate.  I just don't think you need to talk about how bad the refs were when a good player has an off-game....or that he was sneezing in the pre-game huddle.  Good players overcome all factors to prove how good they are.  When a guy is getting into foul trouble he needs to adjust.  The Cortland-Geneseo game- the refs were atrocious, and I was there first hand to see it...I am the last guy thats gonna pin a game on the refs.  I have no problem with Edane Barton winning POY I just don't need to be convinced that he should be a lottery pick this June.  Cstate 19 is crazy...he should know that Taggart isn't a focus on offense and hasn't been a team leader all year long.  This is a team that was 2nd in the SUNYAC last year.  Taggart didn't save a 2-14 team.  He is a great addition to an already great team, and he would fit nicely on 2nd-team All-SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on February 23, 2006, 11:16:53 AM
Nick i have to agree with you about Taggart, he is a GOOD player on a very good team, nothing more or less.  the leadership on that team comes from Frank and Simon, it has been that way for years.  Eventhough i like the kid, Taggart is not an all SUNYAC player!  how do you put someone in the top 15 in the conference when down at the end of games he doesn't make the top 7 on his own roster.  Cstate19 have you seen them play?  90% of what Taggart does is on his own, nothing drawn up by Span.  All rebs. and put backs off the O glass, far from a focus on offense.  Also, Simon playing as a 6 man should not hurt his chances of a first team bid this year.  Span likes the energy and production he brings as a lift off of the bench when the starters get flat.  he is the best player on the best team in the conference and should be rewarded for it.  if the award was for MVP he would have it, but unlucky for Simon its not, its POY.  Good luck to my C-state boys this weekend though, i was up in the air about them all year waiting to fall off, but now i really think they will take it home.  Cortland 62 Oswego 59 in the title game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 23, 2006, 11:49:19 AM
yes kirch ive seen them play many times, the most recent you and Dan drunk as hell yelling at the refs (who deserved it).....by the way I think Dynasty is taking the All-School chip.....you dont have the firepower...enjoy your Y chip while playing with them......


the fact that Taggart gets all his points off rebounds makes him that much better.......those 6-10 points a game are ones the team would not have without him...the fact that the offense runs through simon and frank means they always get oppurtunities........yes for the last time i agree that si and frank are the unquestioned leaders of the team...like i said before how many MVP votes does teddy bruschi get??? leaders dont get individual awards and they dont care thats why they are leaders.....if the offense ran through taggart he would average 20 and 10......not a knock on SI and Frank.........just praise for Big Scott......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2006, 05:34:41 PM
I think both of you guys are on point. 

The issue is that a "team effort" usually doesn't get rewarded with a lot of first team berths, but does get a bunch of 2nd team & HM's. 

Look at last year, Harris (Potsdam) was 1st team, despite fairly modest stats.  Why - because he played great post defense, and rebounded at both ends, and forced you to deal with him (& Turner).  The scorers (Barton, Connelly, Clayton) all made 2nd team or HM.  I think Cortland will get 1 1st teamer, 2 on the second, and one or two HM.  5 out of 15 represents the season they had.

Look at last year's All-SUNYAC team

Zera - leading scorer - lost in quarters
Bellucci - 2nd leading scorer - lost in quarters
O'Garrow - glue that made Cortland a contender
Perioli - glue that made Oswego a contender
Harris - post that everyone had to game plan for.

Taggart gives Cortland the presence to contend with the wide-body 6'8's you will see if you have to play Wooster, or some of the New England teams in the NCAA's.  Against midget SUNYAC teams, he sits a lot because he isn't quick enough to guard a Jaysen Murphy type player.  But in tournament play, he becomes a load, Simon can play the point instead of the post, and you have a great, deep lineup, with Ranieri, Headley, & Jutton/Maggiacomo.

Potsdam beat Fisher last year with in your face defense, Fisher couldn't run their offense, and Fisher's 6'4" scorers were mismatched when they did get inside.  They don't have a counter for Taggart.

I'm rooting for Corts.  They are a class act.  Sleeper could be Plattsburgh. if they show up with their A game, they can take anyone.  Lots of talent in Williams, Gorham, Gibbs-Smith & Miller.

Corts will have to play their usual great defense.  PG by committee may be a disadvantage against Reaves in the semi's.  If he's hot, like he was Tuesday, you can play great defense and he will still find a way to score. 

Should be a great SUNYAC tournament.  A Cortland win, and they should be a lock to host a first round game, and possibly, due to Fisher's tiny gym, the regionals as well. 

NCAA's - don't be surprised if a NJ or Ohio team gets moved into the region for balance.  Utica is the last ranked team, but unless they upset Fisher, they may not get an at large bid, particularly with a recent loss to Oswego.  Wooster has Wittenberg (#6 in poll)  in their conference, and Witt is < 500 mile bus trip to Rochester or Cortland, so that may be in the cards.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on February 23, 2006, 09:07:32 PM
Check out Potsdam's webiste, it shows that Barton was First Team Selection. This probably means that Belluci was awarded POY.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 23, 2006, 11:27:49 PM
i just got word ben is poy cortland had 3 honors players.........i will try to get more
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 24, 2006, 12:10:35 AM
and btw.......gibbs-smith is a punk..........he is so lucky i will not be making the trip to utica this weekend........the redicule on his chin hair among other things would be enough to take him out of his game...........i guarentee i could rile him up enough to get a T..........message to G-S......your a good player....shut your mouth and hoop......dont worry about all that street sh*t.....your not making the NBA....get off the d3hoops message board for fans!!!!!!!!.........if you have that much free time get in the gym or the weight room.........i know your gonna read this...........your a solid player......work hard, ball out and be respected......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 24, 2006, 11:40:06 AM
From the SUNYAC Web Site

2005-06 SUNYAC Men's Basketball All-Conference Teams



First Team
Name                          School                Pos.     Yr.       Ht.       Hometown/Previous School

Ben Bellucci               Brockport           G         Sr.       6'4       Cicero/Cicero-North Syracuse

Frank Ranieri              Cortland             F          Sr.       6'4       Cicero/Cicero North Syracuse

Ahmad Mims               Oswego              F          Sr.       6'4       Syracuse/Cicero-North Syracuse                     

Kris Gibbs-Smith        Plattsburgh         F          Sr.       6'6       Rochester/John Marshall

Edane Barton               Potsdam              G/F      Sr.       6-3       Spring Valley/Colgate University
                                                               

Second Team
Name                          School                Pos.     Yr.       Ht.       Hometown/Previous School

Gregg Jones                 Buffalo State      F          Sr.       6'3       Syracuse/Nottingham

Simon Skrelja              Cortland             G/F      Sr.       6'3       Hastings-on-Hudson/Hastings

Nick Perioli                Oswego              G         Jr.        5'10     Liverpool/Liverpool

Mat Burridge               Oswego              C         Jr.        6'7       Oswego/Hannibal

Chris Reaves               SUNYIT             G         Jr.        5'9       Syracuse/Herkimer CC



Honorable Mention
Name                          School                Pos.     Yr.       Ht.       Hometown/Previous School

Jerry Cheves               Brockport           F          Sr.       6'3       Brockport, NY/Brockport

Dion Mozelle              Buffalo State      F          So.       6'5       Rego Park/Xaverian

Scott Taggart               Cortland             C         Sr.       6'6       Sidney Center/Franklin

Jaysen Murphy            Oneonta              F          Jr.        6'3       East Elmhurst/Robert Wagner

Sean Coffey                 Oneonta              G         Sr.       6'2       New Paltz/New Paltz




2005-06 Player of the Year: Ben Bellucci, Brockport                                             

2005-06 Rookie of the Year: Scott Morton, Geneseo           

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 24, 2006, 11:56:42 AM
thanks bear...taggart gets HM......ouch.....guess i was off on thinking 1st team....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 24, 2006, 01:04:16 PM
The two picks I don't get are Murphy and Coffey as HM.

Oneonta did squat this year until the last weekend.  Sure they had some injuries, but they also had 12 conference losses. 

Can't tell me that Maggiacomo didn't deserve HM over Coffey.  He was the dagger in the heart of most of Cort's opponents with his well-stroked threes coming off the bench.

I also thought Gilkes and Gorham were better choices for HM than Murphy as inside players.

Interesting all 5 first teamers are /slash/ G-F's who can go inside or outside.  No pure guards or posts in the group.  Wonder if this is a trend.

Good luck to Corts this afternoon, sure they'll come to play.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum03 on February 24, 2006, 03:49:23 PM
according to D3hoops.com, Plattsburgh beats Oswego 69-65 to advance to the finals against the winner between Cortland and SUNYIT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 24, 2006, 03:50:15 PM
FINAL

Plattsburgh 69 Cortland 65
-Plattsburgh leads for a combined four or five minutes of the game. Anthony Williams hits a late three pointer for the go-ahead basket. Williams finished with 26pts.

HALF

SUNYIT 50 Cortland 38
*Wildcats shoot 9x18 from 3pt range
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum03 on February 24, 2006, 03:54:21 PM
That halftime score between Cortland and SUNYIT is surprising.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on February 24, 2006, 04:01:43 PM
Cortland down 4 54-50 after being down 12 at the half...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on February 24, 2006, 04:05:47 PM
17-4 run by Cortland, they've taken their second lead. 55-54 Cortland. IT is falling apart
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on February 24, 2006, 04:07:16 PM
Quote from: budcrew08 on February 24, 2006, 04:05:47 PM
17-4 run by Cortland, they've taken their second lead. 55-54 Cortland. IT is falling apart

Technical foul on Cortland's Frank Ranieri... they said he said something to the officials.

Technical on BOTH teams. A guy from IT called for a Tech foul too.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on February 24, 2006, 04:10:32 PM
Cortland up 58-57, 12 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum03 on February 24, 2006, 04:27:38 PM
what's the score in the cortland sunyit game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 24, 2006, 04:30:28 PM
71-69 SUNYIT....305 left

http://www.bcmonsters.com
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dewcrew88 on February 24, 2006, 04:38:22 PM
SUNYIT might get it done, which could screw up Utica because C-State would get one of the precious C bids.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum03 on February 24, 2006, 04:46:19 PM
any update on the game??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 24, 2006, 04:46:42 PM
FINAL

SUNYIT 81 Cortland 74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: lefty31 on February 24, 2006, 07:43:40 PM
hey whats up everybody...I know everybody is going to be surprised with what happend this weekend but for someone who played for years at Oswego and for people who have followed SUNYAC know that every other year or so there are those weird teams that make it.  For example New Paltz in the championship recently, even when we made it five years ago was a surprise.  Even though it hurts to watch my lakers lose when they were ahead the whole game i was a little shocked.  Sunyac much like big east every game tough.  I have one more thing to discuss I know ive read a lot of stuff on here about gibbs-smith and how people are getting on him about his game, but its simple he wins and he makes his team and teamates better. Personally i never had a problem with him we were always cool to each other and he guarded me everytime we played, he respected me and i respected him so you can knock him all you want but he took his team to the championship game.................
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: reggieball22 on February 24, 2006, 07:57:24 PM
Yeah the SUNYAC and the Big East have so much in common. Its like you could interchange any of the 2 teams. Come on man.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on February 24, 2006, 08:03:46 PM
Fisher and RIT tied at 61 with 23.7 seconds remaining in Pittsford. Is this Black Friday?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on February 24, 2006, 08:22:57 PM
Fisher wins 67-65 in OT. Hell of a game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 24, 2006, 09:21:07 PM
In last year's championship game the Lakers came out of the locker room looking scared, fell behind early, and never mounted a threat. This year's team came out confident, trailed for a total of 37 seconds early in the first half and was up 35-30 at the break. Mims in double digits, Burridge controlling the post, Perioli running a smooth point and a couple of buckets, and Franze with help had Gibbs-Smith under wraps. Only a huge 17 from red hot Anthony Williams kept the Cards close.

Looked like the Lakers were ready to close this one out early when they opened the 2nd half with a little 5-0 run to take a 40-30 lead at 17:46, but the Cards didn't crack and played the Lakers even for the next 10 minutes trailing 59-48 at 5:53. Still thought it might be time to warm up the bus. Brian Hatch and Travis Gorham were playing big inside but Gibbs-Smith was getting hammered and held every time he touched the ball although not getting to the line. Oswego was still up 63-53 at 4:44.

Cards score 5 straight and close to 63-58 at 2:58. On the next two possessions, Oswego scores a deuce before cards hit another big 3. Lakers time out up 65-61 at 2:02

A huge 4 point swing after the time out. Oswego inbounds and works the ball to Burridge. He backed his man into the middle of the lane no more than 5ft out and everyone in the arena, including everyone on the floor, expected a drop step or jump hook from point blank range. But he inexplicably chose to kick the ball to Mims on the left wing. Not a great pass and Mims was simply watching Burridge post up – ball rolls out of bounds to the Cards. On the other end, Gibbs-Smith made a great cut down the left side of the lane with a huge catch and finish on what looked to be a too high lob to bring the Cards within 2, 65-63, with 1:29 remaining.

Oswego worked the ball deliberately in the front court against tough man defense. Franze drove the lane and was tied up in double team at 1:07. Oswego ball on the baseline. Lakers got nothing out of the inbound and Perioli was forced to take a wild 3. Never found the rim – Plattsburg ball on the clock violation at :54.

Perhaps the Lakers were looking to double G-S or Gorham, or perhaps they expected the Cards to run some clock, but Anthony Williams, impossibly alone on the right wing extended drained another 3 to put the Cards up 66-65 with :39 on the clock.

Once again, the Lakers went to Franze, with worse results than the previous possession. Franze was whistled for a charge on the base line. Plattsburg ball at :21. Lakers quickly foul Antwane Williams, hits 1 of 2 FTs. Cards up 67-65.

Lakers go inside to Burridge – fouled - to the line for 2 with 2 on the clock. Can't convert, Gorham grabs the board and is fouled. Converts both to seal the upset while the Cards bench and fans explode.

They say a close game is a coach's game. For the Cards T-Curle, who has had his share of grief and aggravation over the last 2 years, I'll say no more.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: lefty31 on February 25, 2006, 12:21:34 AM
I agree with everything you said except for Oswego came out scared last year.  Usually when u beat a team by 20 when they are 19-0 and ranked in the nation they have revenge on there mind.  Also you have to understand there were only two players who had made it that far before Oliver and Ponza, and other have not been that deep in SUNAYCS before.  Potsdam played a good game defensivly and offensively and deserved to win.  Here is the problem, when Oswego needed a bucket last year everybody knew who they were going to, when geneseo needed a bucket you knew zera was getting the ball, when potsdam needed a bucket you knew they were going inside,  this year the lakers  are lacking that go to player.  Sometimes that is the problem with a well balanced team such as Oswego.  Talk about history, Oswego upsets Plattsburgh in 01-02 to go to finals, then Plattsburgh upsets Oswego in first round of Sunyacs, and now the Plattsburgh once again upsets Oswego.....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: goiter on February 25, 2006, 02:56:25 AM
lets face it...murph is a winner
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 25, 2006, 07:00:12 AM
I would like to congratulate SUNYIT and Plattsburgh on hard fought victories

On the one hand a gentleman coach forced out of his previous school, shows that with age and experience comes success.   

On the other hand, an outspoken team leader who as his team on the verge of the long sought after championship. 

Who will win?

As I predicted Cortland is out.  They will make the NCAA with a quick visit.  They have a good team. They have no key leader as all the previous post show.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 25, 2006, 11:43:29 AM
your on the right track bear......just a lil off.....cortland has plenty of leaders......they have no go to guy....i have said it over and over.......down 3 with a lil bit to go simon takes it to the rack but cant finish......no go to guy......everyones been saying it all year and everyone is right.....lets hope they get in and play just a lil bit better.........my game ball???? SUNYIT's coach.....a 2-3 matchup zone is a perfect way to stop the dragons good job IT......cortland...lets get in and get it done...all the faith in the world
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 25, 2006, 03:23:31 PM
At SUNYAC web Plattsburgh 94-73.  Looks like SUNYIT didn't show or they played zone and Plattsburgh shot the lights out.  Anyone have stats?

Gibbs-Smith has the chance to put his foot where his mouth is.  Does he have what it takes?

To all the Gibbs-Smith haters.  When it counted he brought his team to the big dance.  This is what a team leader a go to player does.   If he remains focused he can take his team deep into the tournament.  The success of Plattsburgh is all based on his performance.

Good Luck and represent well!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 25, 2006, 03:37:28 PM
If there are no more upsets the following 8 schools should make the ECAC upstate tournament.  In no order

Rochester, Utica,St. Lawerence, Union, Oswego , Potsdam ,SUNYIT ,Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2006, 04:30:36 PM
Re SUNYAC final,

SUNYAC web site says Brian Hatch, Plattsburgh's 5 led their scorers with 21.  He's usually a defense, rebounder blue collar kinda guy, so they must have ignored him and paid.  Plattsburgh is big, 6-7, 6-6, 6-5, 6-2, 6-1, so their overall size must have given IT fits.  IT is athletic, but small.  If they get behind they can self destruct. 

As for the 2-3 zone, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.  If your opponents shoot well, and get a lead, then you're in trouble.

As for ECAC's,

Several people I talked  to don't believe that Rochester would accept an ECAC bid.

SLU didn't take an ECAC bid last year.

Keuka will be sniffing around for a bid.  They have a decent record, albeit in a terrible league.

NYU will take one, but it will be in the Metro region.

I would think RIT/Ithaca would be in the mix with SLU, they all have virtually identical in region and overall records.

Seeds would likely be

1 Utica
2 Oswego (with a recent win over Utica, could be #1)
3 Union
4-5-6-7 Potsdam/Brockport/Keuka/SUNYIT - in some order
8 one from RIT/Ithaca/SLU

Probably have the four SUNYAC teams matched up against the four non-SUNYAC teams in the first round.

Props to Plattsburgh for a solid performance in the SUNYAC's. 
Team really came back strong from a shocking loss to Oneonta in the regular season finale to pull together and win in a number of different ways.

Just shows how balanced the SUNYAC is, #4 & #6 seeds in the final.
with the champion having regular season losses to the #9 & #10 teams in the league.

Would be surprised if Fisher or Hamilton is paired against the SUNYAC teams in early rounds. 

Similar to '03-04, Plattsburgh may well get shipped to New England because they're an upset winner, may get sent to Norwich which is actually very close to Plattsburgh.  (Potsdam got sent to Penn St-Erie, then Wooster) Cortland may have blown their chance for a home game, with two late season losses although they might get to host Hamilton.

Suspect some NJ/PA/Western Ohio team may get shipped to Fisher as the East region will likely only get the three conference championship bids + Cortland. 

Should be an interesting Sunday/Monday.  Waiting to see how the powers that be on the regional and national committees concoct the brackets.












Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on February 25, 2006, 04:44:39 PM
Bear -- correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Ithaca is ineligible for the ECAC's because they don't have better than a .500 record overall.  SLU is 13-12.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2006, 05:25:49 PM
Thought it was .500 or better. I'll check Monday with someone who knows.

Surprised - SLU beats Hamilton, then Union beats SLU, then Hamilton crushes Union!!!

Was the board aware that when Potsdam beat SLU earlier this year, Dobbs benched most of his regulars for the first half and went with 6 players (including 3 who rarely play).  Then crushed SLU (on their court) in the 2nd half.  Just wonder how strong the LL is this year?

I think if someone gets in Fisher or Hamilton's face with really tough D and a physical game, they will melt.  Plattsburgh has several guys that will do just that.  Neither team has anyone to deal with Gibbs-Smith's athleticism if he brings his A game.  The guy is a physical wonder, 6-5 with guard skills and can go inside or outside.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on February 25, 2006, 06:36:55 PM
If it come down to Ithaca/RIT/SLU, I hope the Bombers get the nod seeing how they're 3-0 against the other two opponents. The rational thing isn't always what happens, though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on February 25, 2006, 06:55:18 PM
congrats plattsburgh....bad weekend for cstate basketball.....both should have a chance to rebound in NCAA's.....for the record i dont hate gibbs-smith...just recoginize talent and wish hed just shut up and play......would make him that much better......sorta like i wish devendorf would shutup for the Orange......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 25, 2006, 10:20:59 PM
Lefty -

Not to beat a dead horse, but when Oswego came out of the locker room last year  to begin their shoot around, my wife commented that they looked tight, and several other regulars came over and made similar comments.

Several days after the game I had a conversation with one of the Lakers who confirmed that they were tight and simply could not relax prior to and during the game.

Believe what you like, but it was obvious to the regulars and confirmed by an absolutlely credible source.

All that being said, it's only marginally relavent if one chooses to make the argument that Oswego is developing a big game - big finish problem. While they certainly handled the last 4:30 of Friday's game about as badly as possible, I expect a strong Laker showing in the ECAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thumbsup on February 26, 2006, 12:18:26 AM
I have to disagree with the Bear.  Having seen Hamilton I believe that 6-6 Nick Jones is just as athletic if not more than Gibbs-Smith.  He takes better shots too.  The sunyac is the deepest conference in the state, but Hamilton could have won that conference as well.  don't know much about fisher outside of Potsdam blowing them out last year, but I can't see Plattsburgh playing with Hamilton if that scenerio ever comes about.  We'll see I guess, but Hamilton is as athletic as any Sunyac team and they can shoot the ball pretty darn good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 26, 2006, 12:23:32 AM
When does the ECAC tournament begin because SUNY Potsdam will hosts Class C and D games for both boys and girls state tournament from 3/8-3/11.  It will make it hard for Potsdam to host ECAC games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on February 26, 2006, 12:27:18 AM
If I remember correctly, the ECAC first round games actually take place during the week.  The state HS games should be on the weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on February 26, 2006, 12:37:45 AM
Ok, I think the statute of limitations has run on talking about last year's Potsdam vs Fisher game. There is absolutely nothing relevant about that game last year in terms of what is currently going on. Congrats to Potsdam on that win last year, but it's over. That win indicates nothing about this year's Fisher team or any SUNYAC/E8 comparison.

Potsdam matched up perfectly with Fisher. Fisher's big guys could be knocked around last year; that's not the case this year. SJF laid an egg at the wrong time and they've learned from that. I'd love to see a Fisher/Cortland or Fisher/Plattsburgh St game in the NCAA's, especially if it's at Manning Napier Gym.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 26, 2006, 12:39:41 AM
As I understand the college's usage policy, if the college has a game, that always takes precedence over outside use of the facility.  Since ECAC games are typically played at night, they could move the HS games to afternoon.

I believe same sort of situation happened last year, and some HS games were moved to Clarkson.  I believe this has always been the case, because Potsdam never missed an opportunity to host regionals/Elite 8 games in the heyday in the '80's.  

I know J.Welsh is a premier facility to watch b'ball but the Sectional b'ball folks know that if Potsdam has a game they have to go to Plan B.  Indian River in the Watertown area also has a large gym available.

SLU has revamped their gym, and it is a nice facility, seats about 1200-1500 with a press gallery etc.  Court is now centered

That being said, Potsdam likely in the middle of the bracket.  

I think Utica/Oswego/Union all pretty much locks to host.  Potsdam might get a first rounder vs. SLU if they get a bid.  Think pairings could well be SUNYIT@Union, Brockport@Utica, Keuka/RIT/Ithaca@Oswego, SLU@Potsdam

We shall see on Monday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 26, 2006, 12:48:22 AM
Be careful what you wish for.  One thing to remember, Gibbs-Smith is a Rochester boy, and would relish the opportunity to impress the hometown folks.

He's a man on a mission this year.  He is letting his actions on the court speak for him, and is speaking very loudly of late.  He would love to do so in the upscale environs of Pittsford.

P.S.  Thumbs up. 

If you remember, Nick Jones played at Clarkson for a year.  I've seen him play, He's a nice player, but you have to see G-S to believe him.  He is a gifted athlete for this level, great hops, strength, and very quick and fast for a man his size.  He can pick up a loose ball in the lane and dunk it from a standstill.  He is a matchup problem for anyone at this level.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 26, 2006, 11:29:17 AM
Thoughts on the SUNYAC Final Four...

It was certainly an interesting weekend of basketball at the Aud. Number six seeded Plattsburgh wins their first outright SUNYAC championship in 30 years defeating fourth seeded SUNYIT. The game was just about as close as the final score indicates. Against Cortland, SUNYIT shot the lights out and their heckling defense really negated Taggert in the post. Also, they had a loud and rowdy crowd too. On Saturday, their shooting went cold. SUNYIT couldn't buy a bucket from three until the second half. They were getting open looks, but nothing fell. And down low, no one could stop Brian Hatch. Hatch had an OK game against Oswego in the semifinals but nothing to write home about. Against SUNYIT, he looked like a world-beater. SUNYIT didn't have anyone really tall enough to guard him and he was strong on the glass.

Plattsburgh's shooting was extremely good for the second straight day. I think for the weekend, they were over 50% combined between Oswego and SUNYIT wins. I was really impressed with Anthony Williams. He was the difference in the Oswego game. Plattsburgh was trailing by 10 or so late, and Williams banged in back to back three's to cut the lead to four. Little bit later with Plattsburgh trailing by two, he hits the go-ahead three from just about the bench with a defender in his face. He also has great court vision on the break and leads the team on the floor. Excellent replacement for now assistant coach Curtis Smith. Gibbs-Smith proved his detractors wrong with two solid performances. He took over the second half of the SUNYIT game, blowing an 11-point lead wide open.

Great crowds this weekend too for the men's side. SUNYIT playing in two of the three games didn't hurt. They may have had a better turnout yesterday if the weather hadn't been rotten. Good number of Plattsburgh fans at the Saturday final considering the four-hr drive to Utica. Not to mention their hockey team playing in the SUNY semifinals at Romney.

And the even better news is, the SUNYAC has a great chance to get two teams into the NCAA tournament. If this was last year, I'd be holding my breath for Cortland. But, with a high regional ranking and 20+ wins, the Red Dragons look to be a solid bet for a Pool C bid. If anything, their loss at SUNYIT in the Final Four takes them out of hosting a regional hub. Right now, with four New York teams, it will be interesting to see where everyone goes.

Oh yeah, Curtis Smith, best dressed coach or assistant coach all weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thumbsup on February 26, 2006, 12:47:42 PM
Bear,

Seen Gibbs-Smith about 5-6 times.  Nice player, not a great shooter, more of a slasher, lots of bad shots from time to time.  I'll take Jones because he is longer, but he wouldn't guard Gibbs-Smith, he would probably get Peck.  Doesn't matter though, P-burgh isn't deep enough to play at the regional level.  Still believe that there are four maybe five other teams I would have liked to see come out of the Yac, and I know you will like this, Potsdam would have been on of them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 26, 2006, 02:54:42 PM
SUNYAC All Tournament Team

MVP Kris Gibbs-Smith Plattsburgh

Chris Laboard SUNYIT
Chris Reaves SUNYIT
Travis Gorham Plattsburgh
Anthony Williams Plattsburgh
Rod Headley Cortland?

Would've thought one of the Cortland senior leaders would've made the tournament team.  Maybe the kid from Peekskill is laying claim to the leadership role.  I hope the Cortland seniors step to the plate or their visit will be real quick. Why no one from Oswego?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on February 26, 2006, 05:36:59 PM
From what I have heard the SUNYIT sqaud was practicing all week long in the aud, which is against the rules of the tourney, conference and or the ncaa, not really sure which of those it was.  the AD at cortland has made a claim/protest about this and is trying to overturn the choice from the time the game hit 0:00 . obviously Pburg would still go to the NCAA but this would put C-state as runner-up in the tourney which looks better to the committee giving up those few at large spots.  No idea if this action will materialize into anything or just be blown off by sunyac officals though.  good luck on selection sunday C-state
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on February 26, 2006, 05:43:36 PM
one more thing.... whoever it was comparing the sunyac to the big east... i've never heard something so crazy in my life!  the only reason they compare what so ever is that the lower level teams have the ability to knock off a top team within conference play.  however, the big east has many teams in the top 10 or even top 5 in the country at any given time.  if you take ANY team in the sunyac right now and put them against ANY top 5 team in D3 basketball they would loose by 15-20 for sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on February 27, 2006, 12:59:54 AM
congrats to C-state on the bid and Pburg to winning the tourney!  represent well in the NCAA's, they can't get to be a lot of fun when you get deep!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2006, 07:43:41 AM
ECAC's

Manual says 500 or better. overall or divisional

Committee is chaired by Mike Lindberg at Ithaca

Committee includes reps from Fisher (NCAA team), Keuka (likely #1 seed) Rochester (likely team), Fredonia (SUNY rep) & Union (likely team LL rep)

Quick pass would suggest:

Keuka
Oswego
Union
Rochester
Potsdam
Brockport
Ithaca
SUNYIT

Criteria:


Quote
1. Divisional winning percentage, head–to-head results, results against common opponents;
2. Strength-of-schedule to be determined in part by results against teams selected into the
NCAA or already in the tournament; and
3. Regular season conference standings.
Note: The committee must review all criteria above in the order listed. A team may have an
excellent winning percentage; however the strength of schedule and results against teams in the
tournament also must be examined.

Others in the mix:
Alfred (divisional > .500)
RIT
SLU
Buffalo St
Hobart
Vassar (overall >.500)

Will know later today
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on February 27, 2006, 08:58:24 AM
Here's what the Bracket looks like to me:

1 -  Amherst
2 -  Fisher
3 - WPI
4 - Cortland
5 - Tufts
6 - Gordon
7 - Norwich
8 - Hamilton
9 - Plattsburgh
10 - Elms
11 - Utica
12 - Endicott
13 - Mass-Boston
14 - Bridgewater St

Cortland should handle Mass-Boston.  But Plattsburgh is going to have a tough time with Hamilton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on February 27, 2006, 12:56:48 PM
ECAC's are out. Here are the 1st round matchups:

Wednesday

#8 RIT @ #1 Oswego
#7 Ithaca  @ #2 Union
#6 Brockport @ #3 SUNYIT
#5 Keuka @ #4 Potsdam

Semi-finals will be held Friday night
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on February 27, 2006, 03:16:20 PM
Congrats to Keuka for their ECAC bid.

If anyone connected to the Keuka team happens to see this post, please tell J. Files that Mr. & Mrs. T are bringing the team a post-game batch of cookies; one cookie for each time he's called this year.

Looking forward to seeing you in Potsdam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: haterinthehouse on March 01, 2006, 04:08:25 PM
Happy to see SUNY-IT in the ECAC's.  This writer predict back in Sept. that they would be much improved.  Where are my doubters now
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on March 01, 2006, 09:53:05 PM
Quote from: haterinthehouse on March 01, 2006, 04:08:25 PM
Happy to see SUNY-IT in the ECAC's. This writer predict back in Sept. that they would be much improved. Where are my doubters now

Right on cue, SUNYIT gets summarily dispatched in the first round of the ECAC's by Brockport, 91-88. Other ECAC scores:

Potsdam 81 Keuka 69

Oswego 84 RIT 81

Ithaca 86 Union 83

Looks like Potsdam/Oswego and Ithaca/Brockport in the semis.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bed on March 01, 2006, 11:46:57 PM
Hey but SUNY-IT had a hell of a year.

I know they lost to Brockport, but they problems with Brockport all season.  I think they lost both regular season games to them, as well as tonight.

But overall, a huge success story considering they lost Nick Grimmer to graduation this season and were able to do as well as they did in the regular season and then have an outstanding performance in the SUNYAC tourney before losing in the finals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on March 02, 2006, 10:31:19 PM
ouch GS.......good year plattsburg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2006, 03:20:24 PM
On the way north ..........(just off the course in Myrtle Beach):
Congrats to Pburghers .......and to CState and TSpan. Don't believe this is anywhere near the best Red Dragons outfit. BUT, all they did was win. Hope they can go a ways in nationals. Playing at home a fine reward.
Fact that Pburgh took Hamilton to OT before bowing last evening is testament to Cardinals' strong finish.
What's this thing all about re SUNYIT's edge (practicing at Aud) in SUNYAC tourney? Edge enough playing at home before boisterous crowd, yes? Still, tis a pretty fair IT squad coaching by Maestro Murph.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 03, 2006, 05:24:35 PM
Re; SUNYIT practicing in the Aud.  ?Who's going to do anything about it?.  Grimmer (SUNYIT AD) is the league president, he's Murph's former player, what's he going to say...duh?...  Commish reports to the president (Grimmer), so he's not going to do anything. . .  Murph plays by his own rules. . . 35 years in the business & he thinks he's entitled. 

That said, he proved he could win by reloading with refugees from the JUCO ranks, just like he used to win with top shelf D-III recruits.

Solution to the Aud problem:  Move the games back to the campuses.  1st Round Tuesday at top 4 seeds.  Semis's Friday night at two highest remaining seeds.  Finals on Sunday afternoon at the highest surviving seed in time for NCAA Selection committee.  Same deal for the women.   Utica Aud is a horrible venue.  Also make the SUNYAC race even more rewarding.

Every SUNYAC school has a decent gym, some are palaces by D-III standards (Oneonta, Buff St., Corts, 'port, Potsdam, Geneseo), even P'burgh, which plays in their small gym, has the field house available for bigger crowds.

P'burgh loss - tough for the Cardinal.  They had the ball in the hands of their go to guy at the end of the game, he just didn't make the FT's.  Hamilton has talent,  Amherst game will be a revelation as to relative differences between NE and East. 

Agree with poster who suggested Hamilton should schedule non-leaguers with the top NESCAC schools.

LL just doesn't give them the competition to be tournament tough.  They should also be scheduling the likes of Rochester, Fisher, Cortland, Oswego, Potsdam, either alternating year home & home or in tournaments.

All are within 3 hours of Hamilton, easy road trips, but will give them tough, well coached, physical opponents to prep them for the post-season. 

Much better than the opening of season tournament with New Paltz (5-20 vs. Medaille 4-21) as the LL already has more cupcakes than a bakery truck.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2006, 09:26:23 PM
Cortland over UMass-Boston 51-38 with about 8 minutes left at CState. Dragons up 50-33 not long ago .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2006, 09:53:55 PM
Cortland 68, UMass-Boston 54

Cortland vs. Tufts on Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jbl2006 on March 03, 2006, 10:39:08 PM
Oswego 76- Postdam-60
Ithaca 77-Brockport-75

Oswego vs Ithaca at 2:00 pm.

Oswego wins by 8 points or more.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on March 03, 2006, 10:44:46 PM
thank you the bear.........who cares who was practicing in the AUD..its a bad venue regardless......as for cortland..........gotta hit some FT's to beat Tufts.......from what i saw??? sunyac has no athletes....UMass Boston was a bad team but athletic..gave cortland problems........but the better team won out........i would like to see the get Rodney some more touches.........good crowd tonight bear........shoulda been there
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2006, 10:49:59 AM
Cstate & jdex - congrats to Dragons for getting through to round 2.

If I had gone anywhere last night, it would have been to Oswego, but wifey prevailed and I stayed here and spared my self driving 7 hours in high winds and patches of whiteouts.

Tufts coach is Bob Sheldon Jr.  North Country native and former SLU player, son of SLU's retired AD.  Veteran of upstate NY basketball wars before becoming the head man at Tufts.

I disagree about SUNYAC not being athletic.  There are pockets of athleticism, SUNYIT has several great athletes, Buff State has several, Plattsburgh has at least four very athletic players.  Others that come to mind are Mims, Barton, Amparo, Kitson; Potsdam has at least three very athletic NYC frosh;  but the physical nature of SUNYAC play, inconsistency by zebras (travels and ticky-tack rebounding fouls) and excellent coaching in the league tend to mitigate the ability of athletes to dominate games during the regular season.   

Cortland, I would say has at least 6 excellent basketball players, but they could struggle against a team with a lot of quickness and great ups.  Span is a terrific coach, and played himself against great athletes when the SUNYAC was a player on the national D-III scene, so he knows how to work around his team's limitations. 

Bears finished their season last night.  Per their pattern in recent years struggled at Laker Hall with their shooting, got open looks and couldn't knock them down.  Also struggled from the FT line, which was 10 points of the final margin.  Perioli has come out of a slump in the last two games, and Lakers are a much better team when he's scoring. 

Lakers are probably kicking themselves over their SUNYAC loss to Plattsburgh, as they probably had a clear shot to an NCAA bid if they hadn't melted down.


Bears will have big holes to fill with departure of Barton - nearly 1200 pts, over 700 rebounds, 200 assists in just three years, and Ducena, who is the all time school leader in 3 pt FG% at ~44%.  Two freshman started and a third was the 6th man, Dobb's needs to recruit some size and depth at a couple of spots to stay in the SUNYAC first division.

Signing off until next November.  Good Luck to Corts, Hamilton, Utica, and Fisher in the NCAA's

The BEAR

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on March 04, 2006, 11:12:11 AM
As an Ithaca fan, would someone go tell the Oswego players that tonight is a huge game and their tourney hopes hinge on it. I figure that's the best way to make them play terrible.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on March 04, 2006, 11:59:22 AM
Your right there are pockets of athleticism but not much.  Case in point, tonight Frank goes up for a layup misses it, gets his own board goes up again and has it blocked.  In a SUNYAC game thats an easy putback for him.  Span did a good job coaching tonight, especially when we looked lost against the press early.  Like I said tonight will be tough, gotta hit their FT's.  A win is a win though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearseh on March 04, 2006, 05:28:17 PM
Yo bear...

My wifey prevailed and we did go to Oswego for the SoWhatWhoCares semis rather than Cort for the tournament. Yours made a wise decision. Mine didn't. Next time we coin toss for a basketball decision we're using my coin.

Major snooze in the barren north. Think a 2 pointer is entertaining? Ithaca and B'Port proved otherwise. Poorly played throughout. Only redeeming value was Ithaca's Bellis scoring from just inside the foul line with seconds on the clock for the win. He's a class act and played well all night. Two Bomber frosh, Burton and Bostic, also played solid minutes.

Brockport notable - with about 11 min to go, the Eagles, for the perhaps the first time this year, played aggressive man-to-man for 34 consecutive seconds. Yet, just before the shot clock expired, Sean Burton threw up a line drive jumper from the line and scored. He didn't call the bank, but was still counted ;) With those results, perhaps it's understandable why the Eagles just didn't bother playing D this season.

The most entertaining aspect of Potsdam/Oswego was the lead article in the campus newpaper, The Oswegonian, re: Board of Regents member Candace deBussey. Seems she has her undies in a bundle about a sex toy workshop The Womens Center is sponsoring on campus. Candace has once again forgotton that the campus is, for the most part, populated by adults who, from time to time, exercise free speech, and that the student association $$$ for the lecture actually is wholly contributed by the students. Had she seen the game, she might be more inclined to prohibit ball (of the basket variety) on campus.

As you know, Potsdam didn't show up - and coupled with the Lakers uncanny ability to win completely meaningless games...had a blowout by the half. 2nd half was played even, i.e. both played mediocre. Oswego's Roberson (6-3) was awarded the Trash Talker Least Able to Back It Up Award for jawing at Potsdam's Mitchell (5-7) after he actually scored over him. The mouth was one and done during that scoring spree when Broderick put him back on the pines after "I am the Greatest" hoisted a brick from 3 on the Lakers next possession. The Lakers Downing (23) did his best to wrest the Most Visible Underwear Award from Plattsburg's G-S, but I still give it to the North Country favorite based on the Cards NCAA appearance - while Downing only flashes in the minors. Props to Mat Burridge - plays extremely hard every night.

Given the importance of Saturday's final, Oswego by 20.

Always a pleasure viewing your posts. Very scary when opinions are fact-based. Clearly, mine aren't!

Hoping for the best from the Dragons tonight!

Anyone needing a ride to the Final Four in Salem, drop an email.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on March 04, 2006, 06:12:57 PM
Cstate19.. what do you know about bad venues or athletes ???  You have never played a min. of competitive basketball in your life!  The sunyac has players that can play with some of the top players in the country at this level.  I was at the Cortland game as well last night and totally disagree about getting the ball to headly more.  He is at his best when he makes something out of nothing, O glass rebs. and put backs, steals and starting the transition game.  Over his carrier at Cortland, when he has high pt total games, Cortland losses!  That is bc the real money players were not on, in return costing them the game.  Cortland did come out flat and nervous though, hopefully this will not continue tonight, if it does it might end the season.  FTs will be very important along with turnovers, just like any sport when the postseason comes.... Whoever has less turnovers needs to play very bad to not win.  One thing they might be able to do against Tuffs is get out and run with the bigs, no substitute for easy buckets and free points for running the floor.  Another key point to look for in the game is the outside shooting of Cortland.  They have yet to have ANY player hit the 3 ball with any kind of consistency when the game is tight.  Even last night it was brick central until it was a double-digit lead and the pressure was off of the snipers.  Jdex I agree... maybe not one of the best Cstate teams of all time, but they do know how to win! Hope it continues tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on March 04, 2006, 07:17:22 PM
Cortland down 14-3 in the early going.  Ouch.

You can actually watch the game here:

http://www.jumbocast.net/index.php
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on March 04, 2006, 07:34:12 PM
Tufts - 20
Cortland - 18

4:30 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on March 05, 2006, 10:00:18 AM
your right about not hitting any 3's ..........we prolly need you out there Kirch........maybe you meant career???? carrier is the dome i will be at rooting on the cuse today........LET'S GO ORANGE!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on March 05, 2006, 10:49:54 AM
Maybe the word "Championship" next to "ECAC" really scared Oswego into choking last night. Congrats on a great career to the Oswego seniors and kudos to the Bombers for surprising everyone and taking home the ECAC championship.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: KING on March 05, 2006, 11:41:29 AM
cortland played a great game last night and just came up short.  best game i've ever seen them play in recent years.  Simon played like an all-american, and taggart played one of his best ever as well.  came up just short but to a very solid Tuffs team who had to earn everything they got last night.  best team in my eyes won the game, but great year Cortland!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 07, 2006, 08:51:32 AM
I have to give a call out to an old rival.  I know that SUNY Albany is now Division I but once upon a time they were Potsdam's greatest rival.  Doc Sauers vs Jerry Welsh.  There was never an empty seat when these two schools played.  Albany is one win away from a trip to the big dance and I wish them Great Luck.  The one big question that remains after all these years,  Would the win streak have been 60 games if the Albany/Potsdam game hadn't been cancelled because of the measles at Albany?  This is the first time I will be cheering for the Danes because I always love when David is giving a chance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on March 11, 2006, 09:07:03 PM
Oh yeah. I remember those Albany v Potsdam games of the '70s and '80s. Those were like wars. It'll be sort of cool to see a SUNY school in the Div I NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: assassin on March 13, 2006, 03:45:01 PM
Now that all of the SUNYAC teams have officially concluded their seasons, let's start looking ahead towards next season prognistications.  Who are the early season favorites to win the YAC, and who are the early favorites for some of the individual honors.  As far as teams are concerned, I think that you have to look at these teams, in no particular order, as the early favorites with what they have coming back:


           OSWEGO:  Basically everyone is back except for Mims.

           GENESEO:  Everyone returns with no seniors on the roster this season.
                             That includes ROY Morton, and hopefully a healthy McDonnell.

           BROCKPORT:  I know Belluci and Cheves are gone, but they do have       
                                 Rother and a nice cast of Vanilla Ice's and Eminem's to go
                                 along with them.  Also, they may have a few guys coming
                                 off of suspensions (Harris and Williams).

           SUNYIT:  Good cast of athletic, explosive returning guards coming back
                          and you know Murphy will bring in some more talent.

Potsdam has to be right there as well with Brown and a nice group of returning young guys.  Plattsburgh too, with Williams, Dietz, Gorham, and co.

As far as Preseason Picks for AC go, here goes:

1st team:  Perioli-Oswego
                 Reaves-SUNYIT
                 Morton-Geneseo
                 Burridge-Oswego
                 Hedley-Cortland

2nd team:  Brown-Potsdam
                  Williams-Plattsburgh
                  Rother-Bport
                  Mozelle-B State
                  Gorham-Plattsburgh

HM:  Bien Amine-IT
        McDonnell-Geneseo
        Spears-Geneseo
        Laboard-IT
        Maggiacomo-Cortland
        Alassari-Fredonia
        Murphy-Oneonta
       


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on March 14, 2006, 07:48:19 PM
Barton and Belluci are first team all region.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cstate4 on March 15, 2006, 02:18:59 AM
Yes well i have been reading the things you people have been putting up here these past few years and i have been disgusted with wat i have been reading recently. You guys totally forgot that Cortland will possibly be returning 13 players some you prolly no nothing about because they were playing behind great players such as Frank, Simon, Rodney and Scott. So yea there is a lot of talent returning for C-state in which they will prolly shock you guys again because we are being counted out again. We enjoy being the underdogs. So U worry about Sunyit who might not even get all those players back like Reeves yea Lambard will return cuz he's young and talented. Cortland will be a very veteran orientated team next year so continue to count us out we enjoy it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cstate4 on March 15, 2006, 02:30:05 AM
One more thing really y isnt cortland among the teams considered for next year maybe you guys should check the roster and look and find out also about some of the players returning. Please answer this though.
Why isnt Cortland considered one of the teams favored next year? >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on March 15, 2006, 01:34:03 PM
Registration e-mail shows that Cstate4 is current Red Dragon hoopster Quentin Merrit, or someone that's using the e-mail address Merritt71@cortland.edu. Just figured I'd throw that out there.

In my view, Cortland is on the radar screen for next year, but the Dragons lose a lot of senior leadership. Next year, the Jutton and Headley class will be the senior class. Among those upperclassmen, someone's going to have to step into the leadership role that Ranieri and Skrelja had this past season. I think the bigger loss on the floor is Taggert. While Frank and Simon had leadership, Taggert had size and was a difference maker down low. Not all the teams in the SUNYAC have a big guy on the block. Two years ago, Potsdam had Eldon Harris and Christian Turner, each around 6'6-6'7. This year, Plattsburgh had Gibbs-Smith, Gorham and Hatch all 6'6 and above. And Cortland had Taggert. Without Taggert, Cortland is back to where they were before they had him. Cortland will contend, but they'll be in the middle of the pack. If I had to take a favorite right now, I'd say SUNYIT. Look what Coach Murphy did in just one year. Worst team in the league to SUNYAC championship game. Outside of SUNYIT, the entire league will be wide open.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on March 15, 2006, 10:47:23 PM
Does anyone know when the All-American team are announced?....Also do Belluci and/or Barton have a chance?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: assassin on March 16, 2006, 03:00:27 PM
It looks like we have another "Gibbs-Smith" poster on our hands in CState4.  You know, one of those insecure players  who, instead of letting his play do his talking, has to come on here and try to make a case for himself and his team.  At least GS actually had the opportunity to let his play speak for him...your ass was on the bench this season.  Which leads me to my next point.  If what Cortland State has coming back was so good then Span would have found a way to get you some minutes.  I have no problem in saying that Hedley, Jutton, and Maggiacomo are talented, but as for you and the rest...respect is earned not given.  Let your play do the talking next year.  I like to hear some other opinions as to who they project to be the upper tier of the YAC next year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: docksider on March 18, 2006, 02:19:13 AM
DV, you need to look a little closer.  No doubt that C-state has big shoes to fill in losing Scott, Simon, and Frank, but they have a lot of talent returning.  There's a bunch of guys, QM included, who played big roles this season and last.  The line-up at C-state seems very strategic or role oreinted.  See earlier references to point guard by committee in this forum.  And when Simon came off the bench, was it to replace Taggart or the starting point guard of the week?

The other thing to keep in mind is player determination. Frank and Simon were often starters on one of the worst teams in C-state history and they were the keys to one of the best.  Many of the recruits who came after them were better than they were as freshmen; the question remains whether they will become as good as Frank and Simon did as juniors and seniors.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on July 07, 2006, 11:34:47 AM
Bad news out of Oswego, Nick Perioli PG for the Lakers is awaiting ACL and MCL surgery from and injury sustained in June.. My best wishes for a speedy return.. The Lakers with out him, are in trouble..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on July 24, 2006, 11:52:46 AM
Cortland awaiting word from NCAA regarding petition to have Scott Taggart eligible for another season. Incoming recruits include pair of big men (6-6ish) from Syracuse area
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thumbsup on September 04, 2006, 09:27:26 PM
Who is the leading candidate for the SunyIT job?  I have heard some interesting names but things have been tight lipped down in Utica.  Rumor has it Bill Mitchell from Potsdam St. (remember him??)  wants to get back into coaching.  Would be a wonderful choice for the Wildcats. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thumbsup on September 04, 2006, 09:32:26 PM
Predictions for 06-07

The only thing that is sure is that Cortland is got to be a tip pick getting 6th year seniors extra seasons.  Any other predictions
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on September 05, 2006, 10:51:38 AM
Sixth year senior? Don't think so. Eligibility question goes back to J.C. days when he encountered some medical problems. Played one season w/Cortland. BUT it says here Taggart wasn't granted another season w/Red Dragons.

What's the story at SUNY Tech? Murph gone? Retiring?

New Paltz has new facility for Coach Doug P.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on September 21, 2006, 11:32:16 AM
Thanks to Liberty board we learn Murphy exits Utica Tech for D1 Northeastern in Boston where onetime Hamilton pupil Bill Coen is head coach. Murphy will assist and return to cny for NE's opening game in mid-November vs. Syracuse.
And UT's new skipper is ....................
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on October 15, 2006, 04:20:22 PM
UT's new coach is an old one -- Kevin Grimmer retakes reins

Hoops are back ......must be mid-October

Openers Nov. 17 ......Buff St. vs. Clark in BS tourney, Geneseo vs. Lake Erie, Plattsburgh vs. Conn Coll in Rutg-Newk tourney, Oberlin at Bport in Bport tourney, Oswego vs. Caz in Osw tourney, Freds at Naz tourney, Pdam tourney, Oneonta at W&L tourney, SUNYIT at Utica tourney

And on Nov. 18 .......Cortland at CCNY, Bport vs. Pitt-Bradford, NPaltz vs. Brooklyn Coll,  and tourney wrapups ....

Among other interesting early tests:  Pdam at NYU and Bport at SJF on Nov. 21; BS at Rochester tourney Nov. 25-26
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on October 15, 2006, 10:14:20 PM
Any word if the Mitchell to SUNYIT rumor was creditable?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on October 16, 2006, 09:08:29 AM
i dont think mitchell would leave potsdam, his wife is the DA up there. anyone heard how practices have went? any new comings and goings?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on October 16, 2006, 08:31:09 PM
I am aware of his wife's lofty North Country status, but a rumor was out that he was interested.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on October 17, 2006, 11:51:50 AM
well i understand your concern for your former coach but i think he's got a cushy job at potsdam. how's med school going?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 02, 2006, 10:49:31 PM
Cortland gives good account in scrimmage vs. Hobart, whose Statesmen make the trip on snowy night. Weather delays start, but not the Red Dragons. Hosts win opening half by about 10. Second half even on last-second Hobart hoop.

Cortsl certainly with different look, as in smaller. But it's a good shooting, quick and deep outfit. Headley, Jutton, Maggiacomo, Fish, Jankiewicz lead the way. Returning soph C. Niehoff up front with Q. Merritt. Couple of 6-5 frosh from Syracuse area will play including 240-lb P. Oliver once his football season concludes.

Next up: Scrimmage with Nazareth Nov. 12
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: go_cards on November 03, 2006, 10:36:04 AM
Does anyone think the Cards will go back to back ?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 03, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
From early reports it appears Pburghers definite favorite. Supposedly 11 returnees!

How bout Oswego Perioli's status from serious early summer knee trouble?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: go_cards on November 03, 2006, 04:31:52 PM
Wow without Nick Oswego could be in trouble. Who will be the back up?

Can Plattsburgh go far without GS?
Gorham and williams will have to step up big time.


My top 4 teams

1-Cortland
2-Plattsburgh
3-Buff State
4-Brockport

What do everyone think?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 03, 2006, 10:59:24 PM
1. Cortland is a stretch. Lost a bunch up front in Ranieri and Taggart, plus key swingman Skrelja -- super sixth man. Will be respectable, maybe more should youth arrive inside.

Sure have to look at Plattsburgh's veteran dotted array. Awful early to get a line on others, BUT don't sleep on New Paltz. Dougie P. is all smiles, and for more reasons than he took a bride on 9/9. Hawks bring back a slew -- J. Hauser (15.4 ppg, 6 rpg, 80 assists), bro M. Hauser, guard M. Irwin (10.2 ppg), J. Sugrue among brigade. But key figure will be 6-6 A. Foluke-Henderson, who missed last season after 16.3 ppg, 7 rpg previous winter. Hefty frosh crew featuring 6-6 pair, 6-5 pair. AND NP has 12/31 date in Hawaii (honeymooning?) vs. D2 Chaminade. Yes, that Chaminade, which hosts Maui Invite this month and meets UCLA in first round!!

Geneseo was senior-less last season with a team including McDonell, Spears, Bennett, Scieera, T. Kitson (SUNYAC top rookie two years back), Kelly, Muchnick.

Fredonia has seven holdovers led by Alassari (13 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 79 assists), Gordon, Moore

Always interesting at Buff St. Bengals certainly lead `name game' -- Ishmael Skylark ripe for `Boomer's list? He's junior guard from CA. Also have Kojo, Pee Wee, Californian DJ and Bubba. Vets include 6-6 sr. Dante Griggs (10.4 ppg, 5 rpg), 6-4 swingman C. Hepburn, 6-6 Dion Mozelle (12.7 ppg), and sr. guard Jay Wingate
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on November 04, 2006, 10:14:52 AM
Sleeper team in the SUNYAC is Geneseo, lot of returners and play well diciplined ball.  my projections are:

Geneseo
Potsdamn
Plattsburgh
Buff state
Cortland
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 04, 2006, 03:51:15 PM
Geneseo also has a big guy from last year that started coming on toward the end of the year to take away minutes from Sciera. His last name is Howe and I thought he was the best freshmen towards the end of last year. Also, Muchnick isn't with them anymore, last I knew he is patrolling the sidelines with Tommy S at Cortland and did so last year.

One thing on NP, they always seem to bring in huge freshmen classes and then they disappear after first semester and sometimes before that. Maybe their new facility will keep them there.

Potsdam loses Barton and Ducena, everything else is back including some promising sophomores who were freshmen last year.

Plattburgh will be a better TEAM without Gibbs-Smith. Who knows what type of juco's they brought in, usually talented ones though. Without question the team to beat. Curle has done an exceptional job bringing a mix of freshmen, jucos, and transfers.

Oneonta brings Heslin back for a 5th year. Is Reed playing again? The loss of Coffey could hurt them because of his deadly shooting, just ask Potsdam.

Buff St., who knows with them. The players they have back are extremely talented. I'm sure their incoming players are very good because anyone who can spell their name can get in there. Their talent could explode in more ways then one at any moment.

Cortland loses a ton scoring and leadership from graduation. They should reload and be good again how Spanbauer adjusts to his new team.

Brockport gets a couple of players back from suspension, both who have potential to be all league this year. Some transfers at mid-semester have always changed the face of the Eagles every year, who will they bring in next?

Fredonia lost quite a bit from last year's squad. Depending on their recruiting class it could be another tough one in cold and snowy Buffalo.

SUNYIT has Grimmer back in controls, lets just say thats a huge downgrade from current Northeastern assistant Tom Murphy. We'll see how the players adjust and how Grimmer handles having a ton of talent.

Oswego's outlook basically depends on having Perioli. If they don't have him, they could be in trouble. He has controlled that team for 3 years and I think Broderick was counting on him to finally make a run to the NCAA. Losing Mims will hurt but they do have the best big man in the league in Matt Burridge.

Well thats it for now, let's get some reports back from scrimmages and exhibition games soon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 04, 2006, 04:45:20 PM
Not exactly true that Cortland lost ton of scoring ........lost power in Ranieri and Taggart, and key swingman Skrelja, but much firepower returns.

Yes, Reed returning to Oneonta along with 6-7 Heslin. Both on injured reserve last winter. Oneonta also brings back league HM J. Murphy, 6-3 sr who averaged 11.8 ppg and 5.8 rpg, plus sr. M. Reardon, 6-7 soph R. Morin, E. Batt and others.

And, yes, don't think any foes will sleep on Geneseo. Plenty of vets

Utica Tech should frighten with C. Reaves (17.5 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 125 assists, 75 stls), C. LaBoard (14 ppg, 5 rpg), C. Plante (71x173 3s, 11 ppg) and A. Gilkes (10 ppg, 9 rpg).

Brockport has work to do. Lost Bellucci, Rother, Cheves, Amparo. Returns D. Maldonado (8.9 ppg) as 6-5 frontliner and D. Rubertone (8.8 ppg)

Potsdam probably has some recruits to replace some pretty fair losses. Among holdovers are 6-7 B. Siskavich (8.1 ppg) and backcourters S. Mitchell and D. Taft, plus 6-4 sr. J. Hall, 6-2 guard D. Brown (7.4 ppg), Reinhardt, Dike
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 04, 2006, 08:32:08 PM
you're right jdex, i thought jutton was gone too. i believe he is the trajan langdon of the sunyac, it seems like he has been there forever. though scoring might on the inside will be a factor, they did lose a ton of leadership with ranieri and skjeljia (sp?).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on November 04, 2006, 08:54:09 PM
Happy November, everyone!  Hope it has been a happy and healthy year for all of you. 

If The Bear has any insights on Potsdam's squad, they would be much appreciated.

See you when the games begin.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on November 04, 2006, 11:48:32 PM
SUNYIT doesn't have the key ingredient...Coach Murphy.

I think thats a big difference in the 'Cats.

Jdex, if you remember, I thought highly of New Paltz last year with everyone returning. And they promptly went out and pooped it up. Unfortunately I think the same may happen this year. Doug is a good coach but I don't think the talent back is going to be the difference - it wasn't last year.

Plattsburgh has a lot back but loses Gibbs-Smith. That hurts. He and Anthony Williams were the heart and soul of that team down the stretch. They'll still be tough but I'm not sure they win it all again. Hard to improve upon their stretch run but not having Gibbs-Smith hurts.

Cortland, well, they're back like they were before Taggert. No presence in the middle and lots of guards chucking up three's. No Ranieri either. Hell of a job by Frank and Simon Skrelja to take that program from the basement of the conference up to the regular season champ and a NCAA playoff appearance. They'll be troublesome to opponents but without inside play, they won't have the special ingredient. I'm not sold on the Big Q down low after he came on this board and talked junk after the end of the season. He's got big shoes to fill. But, I think Maggiacomo-Jutton-Headley could be one of the best threesomes in the league.

It'll be some interesting times in the SUNYAC this year. I'm a little sad I won't be up at the Pete anymore. Oh well, it'll be 70 here in Virginia on Thursday. I'll survive LOL.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: go_cards on November 05, 2006, 10:04:55 PM
Rumors say that Plattsburgh has a D-1 transfers that plays the same as Mr. GS. Where do Curle find these good players?   ;D

Does anyone have a list of juco and transfers he has in the past?


This is going to be a good year for basketball.

G0 Cards

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on November 06, 2006, 11:41:11 AM
sunyac will be interesting i am looking forward to see how things play out.. some teams that have been out of the running for a while could come out on top..

front runners seem to be and i say seem to be..

potsdam
platts
geneseo
utica tech
cortland...

like said who knows with buff state
and can alassari lead fredonia? i question his leadrship at times.
will perioli play the year, after having acl surgery in june?? loss of mims will hurt as well.
will NP or o-state make some noise this year??
can brockport recover after monster losses, rother, belucci, cheeves?
who will step up this year?
it's almost time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 07, 2006, 04:45:29 PM
You have to admire Buff St. for publicizing this one ......Bengals dropped 91-48 exhibition to D1 UB last Friday.

Certainly little to cheer about if you're Buff St fan. Shoot 15x52fg (5x24 1st half), 1x11 3s. Down 43-23 at half. D.J. Nubine-Mitchell, 6-4 jr guard from CA sees most minutes (25) and shoots 1x6fg, 2 pts, 3 stls. I. Skylark in 20' is 0x8fg, 2 pts; D. Mozelle 2 pts in 22', 6-6 sr. D. Griggs 0 pts, 4pf in 8', C. Hepburn 0 pts. (0x3fg)) in 9', 6-7 NYC frosh A. Samedi 10 pts (6x8ft) in 22', K. Wood 5x5fg, 4 reb. in 18'.  Bulls 35x65fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on November 09, 2006, 11:22:26 AM
Potsdam plays a nonleague game last night against Algonquin College of CAnada. Algonquin was strong at guard, not much for big men. Brandon Siskavich and Tim Reinhart were both impressive on the boards and running the court for Potsdam. Scott Mitchell played another steady game at the point, making the perfect pass at all the right times. Team will be deaper this year as last year's group of freshman have gained confidence. New kid out of Syracuse looks like he'll be a contributor by midseason.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 09, 2006, 12:06:24 PM
Potsdam doesn't have any new kids from Syracuse. They do have a juco transfer by the name of Jeff Riker that went to school at OCC, but he is from Dryden. Another player for them is Anthony Williams, a solid combo guard from Long Island. I would imagine those are the two players you are talking about.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on November 11, 2006, 05:17:57 PM
Yes, Jeff Riker is the player that I was referring to. Anthony plays with lots of confidence but just didn't seem to be able to finish. I certainly shouldn't judge him much on his 8 or 9 minutes though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 12, 2006, 05:23:58 PM
Cortland in home Sunday workout vs. Nazareth and gives positive showing. Better than against Hobart, and that wasn't bad. This team can shoot. Maggiacomo unconscious along with Jutton. CState by 10 at half and 15 through 40'. Jr. 6-8, 260 J. Sargent opens at center and does well. Jr. 6-5 swingman M. Jankiewicz quite visible in all facets. Another '3' threat. Certainly hold their own off boards. Frosh 6-6 M. Lewis a comer, and 6-6, 255 frosh P. Oliver sees first competitive action.
Cortland has numbers. Down the liners simply trample Naz counterparts. Frosh guard W. Coston quite the spark.
Naz expected to contend in E8. Frosh guard C. McAdam  an eyeful. Jr. bro R. McAdam injured and didn't play. Last season's scoring whiz J. Canori has tough day
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 15, 2006, 09:55:17 AM
It looks like Cortland will be living and dying by the 3 this year. Quite unusual for a Spanbauer team. I guess you have to adjust to the players that he has. When he had Tom Williams, it was set Tom screens and let him go to work. Then it was onto Hi-Lo game with the bigs. And the past couple of years it has been spread them out penetrate and pitch. We'll see how the rest of the SUNYAC adjusts to this.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 15, 2006, 04:18:59 PM
just stopping by...........still active on the football boards
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 16, 2006, 12:12:26 AM
Can anyone give a report on Brockport?  I am far removed from that and the Brockport Athletics site won't give you any info.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 16, 2006, 10:37:31 AM
Brockport loses a ton of scoring from last year's team. They do get Brandon Williams and Shaun Harris back for a year's suspension because of questionable administrative decisions. They also get a couple of guys like Bobby Brooks and Dave Maldonoldo back from injuries. They jury is out on who else they brought in. I heard they have a couple of players that are older and should help with their old man strength. I do believe that both Williams and Harris can't play in the first couple of games, but I'm not sure. They do have Dan Rubertone and his toughness around the basket, along with Mychal Wilkes and his 3 point shooting. Any other reports from them? I know they usually scrimmage a host of Rochester area schools.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jbl2006 on November 16, 2006, 10:31:12 PM
Anybody know what happened with Rother?  I thought he had another year left?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 17, 2006, 12:19:37 AM
Thanks Slicky for the info. +k
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 17, 2006, 11:31:05 AM
Last I knew Rother was transferring to Salisbury. I haven't checked their roster but that was the news at the end of last year. I don't think Whitmore was going to welcome him and his attitude back.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 17, 2006, 11:35:12 AM
I just checked and Rother is not on their roster either. Not sure of his whereabouts. Either way it would be 4 different schools for college. Cortland, MCC, Brockport, and ?????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2006, 12:38:32 PM
30 minutes to tip time for SUNYAC .....

Veteran Geneseo faces Lake Erie at 1 in Rochester tourney opener (UR/Ithaca at 8)

Plattsburgh in 5:30 test vs. always rugged Conn College in Rutgers-Newark tourney (R-N/PS-Abington)

Much improved (we think) Oneonta at 6 vs. VA's Averett (20-8 last winter) in Wash&Lee tourney (W&L/Denison)

SUNYIT at 6 vs. Keuka in Utica Coll tourney (UC/PSmiths)

Potsdam hosts tonight vs. Green Mtn (Castleton/Clarkson)

Buff St. hosting tonight vs. Clark at 8 (Fisher/Pt Park)

Brockport tourney tonight has Eagles vs. Oberlin (PittBradford/St.Larry). Meets PB Saturday in preset pairings (?)

Fredonia vs. Keystone St. in Naz tourney tonight

Oswego (Perioli on roster) tourney host tonight at 8 vs. Caz (Purchase/Lehman)

As for Rother, was seen at Cortland/Naz scrimmage last weekend at CState. Attitude, eh? Corts wouldn't know anythng about that, he said cynically.
And, Cortland opener on Saturday vs. CCNY will be played at NYC's Lehman College at 1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2006, 04:16:09 PM
Geneseo falls 85-76 to Lake Erie after leading 35-33 at half. T. Kitson 25 pts, 6 rebs; G. Spears 13 pts; S. Morton 7 assts; B. Bennett 10 assts; S. Sciera 8 pts, 8 rebs.  Knights on Saturday at 1 meet loser of tonight's tourney host Naz vs. Morrisville go

Fredonia in recent 64-50 exhibition win over Canada's Fleming College. T. Alassari 14 pts, 7 assts; K. Reichlmayr, Monticello frosh g B. Cooper 12 pts each
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 17, 2006, 05:04:38 PM
Actually, Geneseo will play the loser of the Ithaca-UR game.  It's Fredonia that's at the Naz tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2006, 05:44:57 PM
Caz, just realized error of my ways. Had it right at the top of sked in my prior post, too. Thanks for the catch. Indeed, Fredonia in Naz fest vs. Keystone St. before Naz/Morrisville.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2006, 02:01:26 AM
Buffalo St.  beats Clark 88-74 at BS, overcoming 45-28 halftime hole by outscoring guests 60-29 over final 20'. K. Wood 21 pts(11x14ft), 8 assts, 3 stls, 7 reb in 32' BS showing. D. Griggs 11 pts(4x6fg), 10 rebs; C. Hepburn 9 pts, 9 rebs. Bengals 12x32fg in 1st half, then 19x31. Go 25x39ft. Play Point Park (97-69 over Fisher) in tourney final. PP with 53-26 lead at half. Fish 11x41fg in first half

Plattsburgh falls 55-52 to Conn College in Rutgers-Newark tourney. For Cards K. Hunt 21 pts, A. Mioller 13. Play PS-Abington in consi

Oswego in own tourney belts Caz 114-60. Frosh M. Jabbi 20 pts(9x13fg), 10 rebs. He's 6-5, 180 from Bronx. D. White, K. Reuter 16 pts each, E. Roberson 15 pts, 8 rebs; M. Burridge 13 pts, 10 rebs. Lakers 54% from field. No Perioli. Lehman over Purchase 70-58

Oneonta loses 71-55 to Averett of Va. in Wash & Lee tourney. OState outscored in 19-0 spell over 35-14 first half run. E. Brratt 19 pts, 6 rebs; W. Heslin 14 pts, 6 rebs. Dragons vs. Denison (82-71 slip to W&L) in consi

SUNYIT past Keuka 110-60 at Utica College tourney. Meets UC (104-37 over PSmith) in final

Fredonia rallies past Keystone 56-54 in Naz tourney opener. Keystone up 37-30 at break. T. Alassari 3pter and ft's pull Freds even at 54. K. Reichlmayr ft at :35 provides lead. Alassari 16 pts (3x7 3s), 8 rebs, 4 assts in 33'; frosh B. Cooper 12 pts; frosh K. Saunders 10 pts; K. Gordon 8 rebs. Up against Naz (91-69 over Morrisville)

Potsdam blitzes Green Mountain 82-57 and will meet Clarkson (65-46 over Castleton). B. Siskavich 22 pts, 7 rebs; J. Hall 9 rebs; T. Reinhardt 15 pts(6x13fg); S. Mitchell 13 pts. Bears 47-24 at half; shoot 32x67fg

Geneseo gets Ithaca in Rochester tourney consi. UR over IC 81-72

Brockport beats Oberlin 78-66 in Bport tourney
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2006, 10:26:24 AM
At Bport, Eagles seize 34-31 halftime edge and break away from knot at 61at 6:44 with 11-3 run vs. Ohio's Oberlin. Soph 6-2 J. Clark from Liverpool with 14 pts (2 3s), 6 rebs; D. Rubertone 13 pts, 9 rebs; M. Wilkes 13 pts, 5 stls. Outboarded 42-32 but O's with 32 turnovers to host's 17. Bport 18x24ft, 13 stls. Meets Pitt-Bradford today in preset pairings. P-B fell 79-72 to St. Larries who overcame two point deficit at half with 61% shooting in final period. Sophs T. Wopperer (20 pts, 4x6 3s), B. Vonnak (17 pts, 6 rebs, 4 assts) pace win
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2006, 01:31:58 PM
In addition to tourney completions today ....

Cortland opens vs. CCNY at Lehman in NYC this afternoon, and New Paltz debuts tonight at home vs. Brooklyn College

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2006, 06:10:14 PM
Cortland over CCNY 58-56 in NYC

Geneseo takes Ithaca 78-67 in Naz consi match. Soph S. Morton all tourney with 18 pts(5x10fg, 4x5 3s), 5 blks, 4 rebs, 3 stls); S. Sciera 19 pts(7x10fg) in 17'; J. Kling 11 pts; G. Spears 10 pts; T. Kitson 11 rebs; B. Bennett 5 assts)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2006, 06:30:48 PM
Point Park 99, Buffalo St. 82 in BS tourney final

Utica College 99, SUNYIT 82 in UC tourney final where hosts' D. Herring (23 pts) MVP. Pioneers ahead 47-42 at break. For Tech, C. Reaves 32 pts (10x17fg, 8x11 3s), 5 assts in 37'; C. Laboard 14 pts; C. Plante 12 pts; A. gilkes 12 rebs. UC 44-30 board advantage. Tech 27x64fg

Potsdam outgunned 58-55 by Clarkson in Pdam tourney final. Clarkson 33-25 at half. Pdam 15x50fg, 20x21ft, outboarded 39-27. D. Brown 14 pts (4x15fg); J. Hall 10 rebs; S. Mitchell 12 pts (3x7 3s); B. Siskavich 11 pts (3x10fg). Clarkson's E.J. Harrison 19 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2006, 06:44:57 PM
Oswego wins its tourney in 76-54 style over Lehman. Shoots 26x53fg as E. Roberson nets 25 pts(10x16fg); K. Reuter 16(5x14fg); M. Burridge 11 (5x6fg); T. Franze 10 pts(3x4fg); M. Jabbi 7 pts and 8 rebs. Lakers lead 38-28 at intermission
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2006, 07:45:45 PM
Fredonia rally falls short in final of Naz tourney where Naz prevails 66-61 behind mvp J. Canori's 26 pts. Freds down 39-21 at half and 45-21 with 15:53 to play. Freds score 30 of next 38 points to get within 53-51 on all-tourney K. Reichelmayr hoop at 3:16. Tight thereafter. A. Smith all tourney with 15 pts, B. Cooper 11 pts. Fredonia 37-32 glass edge. T. Alassari 5 pts and 4pf in 25' stint

Cortland win features D. Maggiacomo's 32 pts(11x20fg, 5x13 3s), R. Headley 6 pts, 5 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2006, 01:47:19 AM
Brockport flogs Pitt-Bradford 105-80 as six Eagles score double digits led by benchman S. Johnson's 20 pts (4x4fg, 10x11ft) in 16', and starters D. Maldonado (16 pts, 9 rebs), J. Clarke (13 pts), M. Wilkes (12 pts, 5 assts), A. Poles 11 pts, 5 assts), D. Rubertone (10 pts). Bport sets 53-34 halftime pace. Ends 30x60fg, 36x50ft, 48 rebs

Plattsburgh downs Penn St.-Abington 73-68 in Rutgers-Newark tourney consi. Jr. R. Rider 17 pts, 13 rebs; All Classic K. Hunt 12 pts, 7 rebs, 3 stls, 2 blks; soph M. Dietz 12 pts; sr. J. Dumont 12 pts; Tanzania frosh froward Y. Mwamuntyange also recognized. Hosts over Conn College 64-63 in final

Oneonta beaten 77-62 by Denison in Wash & Lee tourney consi. Dragons 22x63fg led by W. Heslin 22 pts(8x13fg, 2x4 3s); E. Bratt 17 pts(7x13fg, 2x8 3s). Denison ahead 33-21 at half

New Paltz christens new athletic center with 94-63 romp past Brooklyn College. T. Cannon 20 pts(9x12fg); M. Hauser 13 pts, 7 rebs; A. Foluke-Henderson 12 pts, 6 rebs. Hawks in 51-31 control through 20'. Have 56-34 board margin

Cortland's R. Headley with game-winning 12-foot bank shot at :04 vs. CCNY. Dragons out to 13-2 lead but turnovers hurt. Soph C. Niehoff key 3-pter down the stretch
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on November 19, 2006, 10:59:36 AM
Rother transferred to William Paterson and is listed on the roster.

Who knows why he chose Paterson, outside of the fact that they have a decent chance of competing for a national championship this year.

Good player but credibility is ruined after playing for four schools in five years. Though, I'm not sure if he actually stepped on the floor at MCC since he still has eligibility remaining.

Weird story.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 20, 2006, 03:57:08 PM
Thanks for the Rother infor John.

Did anyone else notice Potsdam's loss to Clarkson? I think that is a bad loss. Maybe Clarkson's newcomers made a difference. Another possibility is Potsdam's head got a little big and they couldn't make it through the doors of Maxcy Hall. They must remember that good teams at the D3 level aren't led by freshmen and sophomores, they are lead by upperclassmen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on November 20, 2006, 07:37:55 PM
Slickyquick, I was at the Potsdam-Clarkson game on sat and I think you hit the nail on the head. Potsdam's freshman and sophomores played lethargic the entire game and were lucky to even make the game that close. They got killed on the boards, made careless turnovers and were out-hustled in all aspects of the game. After watching this game I was embarressed to be associated with the school and felt bad for coach Dobbs. He coached his ass off and tried to fire the guys up, but I guess they just dont have it. Its going to be a long season in the north country if something doesnt change quickly.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 21, 2006, 09:54:12 AM
Maybe a good wakeup call for the Bears will be tonight when they take on NYU. The Violets return All-American Jason Boone and a slew of others. It will be a homecoming for many of the Bears but they might just want to hop on the bus back to Potsdam if they are going to play like they did against Clarkson.

Where are all the other Bear followers, did they hop off the bandwagon after the nice little run of the past 3 years?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2006, 11:55:50 AM
Potsdam at NYU certainly one interesting pairing tonight, another takes Brockport to SJF. Then there's Plattsburgh home to Norwich, Oswego greeting Morrisville, Cortlands at Elmirans, Techmen of Utica at Mt. St. Vincent
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2006, 10:16:27 PM
Cortland whips host Elmira 99-56, shooting 14x25 3s. Ahead 50-25 at midway point. D. Maggicomo 18 pts (7x12fg, 4x8 3s) in 28'; M. Jankiewicz 14 pts (4x6fg, 3x4 3s) 5 reb) in 14'; J. Miolan 12 pts (5x6fg, 2x2 3s) in 13'; R. Headley 12 pts. in 20'; M. Schaller 4 assts. Dragons 26x70fg; 12 players score. Elmira's M. Keating 15 pts (6x10fg

NYU 77, Potsdam 67
Plattsburgh 72, Norwich 55
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: retired12 on November 21, 2006, 10:16:39 PM
Potsdam falls to NYU 77-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2006, 10:36:34 PM
Brockport beats SJF 97-86 for only third SJF home loss in last 55 games. Bport leads 37-36 at half and finishes 14x30 3s (35x76fg). M. Wilkes 17 pts (6x10fg, 3x6 3s) in 25'; B. Williams 17 pts (7x18fg, 10 reb in 29'; D. Maldonado 15 pts(4x9 3s) off bench; J. Clarke 11 pts off bench; A. Poles 14 pts(3x8 3s). D. McSweeney 24 pts. for Fisher. SJF leads 45-44 at 16:12 before I. Mack layup for reversal. Bport 72-56 at 9'. SJF within 83-77 at 3:12. Clarke delivers big 3 for Eagles, whose free throwing keeps SJF at arm's length
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2006, 10:58:59 PM
Plattsburgh in 32-19 lead at half and finishes 47%fg with five in double figures: T. Gorham 15 pts (16reb); A. Miller 12 pts (11 assts); K. Hunt 13 pts, R. Rider 11, M. Dietz 10

Potsdam bows to 3-0 Violets who hold 33-24 lead. NYU ahead 70-55 with 3:30 left before Pdam 9-0 run tightens it at 2'. T. Reinhard 14 pts(6x15fg), 4 assts, 4 rebs before fouling out. B. Siskavich also dq'd with 5 pts. S. Mitchell 13 pts(4x6fg) and J. Riker 10 pts. off bench (4x6fg, 2x4 3s). Bears 26x54fg (8x17 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2006, 11:01:00 PM
Oswego 76, Morrisville 59
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2006, 12:23:25 AM
Oswego rolling 42-32 at half and winds up 26x62fg led by T. Franze 17 pts(7x11fg) in 31'; M. Burridge 16 pts(6x13fg), 13reb, 3stl in 32'; K. Reuter 15 pts(4x7fg, 3x6 3s), 3 stls; T. Downing 3 assts

SUNYIT roasts Mount St. Vincent 101-76 on road. A. Gilkes 18 pts(8x13fg), 9 rebs; C. Laboard 17 pts(5x12fg); C. Reaves 15 pts(6x12fg, 3x4 3s), 3 stls, 7 assts; E. Belone 14 pts(7x13fg). Tech 49-36 halftime margin. Hits 39x71fg with 46-34reb gap
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 26, 2006, 06:30:19 PM
Buffalo St. this afternoon tops Wash & Jeff 83-71 at Rochester. Bengals, 2-1, bolt to 51-42 intermission lead on 23x37fg. Wind up 29x57 from the field. D. Griggs 21 pts(7x11fg), B. Wood 13 pts(6x13fg), D. Mozelle 11 pts(3x6fg). W&J 0-5 and fell 76-44 to UR in Saturday matinee. Buffs vs. UR Monday night
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2006, 12:32:49 AM
Buffalo St. drops 88-57 verdict at Rochester on Monday night to even Bengals record at 2-2. UR shoots 58%fg led by U. Ndubizu 21 pts(9x10fg). BS trails 39-24 at half and 73-49 with 6:08 left. Bubba Wood 16 pts in 19' in reserve role for Bengals. D. Griggs 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2006, 03:28:36 PM
Trio of conference games tonight and four other SUNYACs in action:

3-0 Oswego at 1-1 Geneseo, 1-1 Fredonia at 3-0 Brockport, 2-0 Cortland at 0-2 Oneonta

2-1 SUNYIT hosts Paul Smith, 1-0 New Paltz at Vassar (tourney 1st round nightcap after Bard vs. Mt. St. Mary; consi & final Wednesday), 1-2 Potsdam at Clarkson in rematch of Pdam tourney final won by Clarkson, 2-1 Plattsburgh at St. Lawrence
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2006, 01:56:41 AM
Unbeaten Brockport overcomes 32-25 Fredonia halftime lead.  Several second half ties, first at 38 on M. Wilkes' 3pter at 14:30. Later at 57 at 4:21 when S. Harris ft and S. Johnston trey boost Eagles. A. Poles 14 pts, Wilkes 12 pts, assts, 5 stls; B. Williams 11 pts; Harris 4 assts. Bpots 22x55fg, Freds 22x53 and led by K. Reichlmayr 15 pts(7x10fg) in 25' and playing with foul trouble. K. Saunders 14 pts; T. Alassari 4 stls, 8 pts, 6 assts, 6 turnvrs; M. Moore 5 assts. Freds with 29 trnvrs

Geneseo over guest Oswego 82-70. Lakers ahead 42-39 at half and get 25 pt(10x14fg) game from T. Franze, who adds 6 rebs, 4 stls, 3 assts in 37'. Geneseo shoots 29x55 from floor, outboards Oswego 37-26 and lands deciding 23x32ft to Lakers' 8x16. S. Sciera off bench has 17 pts(6x10fg) in 20' for winners, whose T. Kitson has 16 pts(6x12fg), J. Kling 15 pts(5x9fg), 9 rebs, 6 stls in 36'. For Oswego, E. Robertson has 17 pts, 3 stls in 35' reserve role; M. Burridge 10 pts

Oneonta wins first with 74-67 stopping of Cortland. W. Heslin with 18 pts(6x13fg), 10 reb, 3 assts, 2 stls in 29' show for homestanding OState. E. Bratt 14 pts(5x10fg, 4x6 3s), R. Morin off bench for 13 pts(4x5fg) in 15'. OState 33-30 lead at half and always keep Corts at arm's length in second half. CState 23x59fg and 8x20 beyong arc led by D. Maggiacomo 21 pts(7x17fg, 4x7 3s). M. Jankiewicz 16 pts(7x11fg, 2x6 3s) in 20'; R. Headley 15 pts(4x15fg), 9 reb in 35'. OState 28x57fg and 6x11 3s)

Potsdam beaten 74-63 at Clarkson to spoil T. Reinhardt's 32 pt (15x23) night. He scores 16 of Bears' first 24 points on 7x10fg, and adds 7 rebs. B. Siskavich 12 pts. Pdam down 52-37 and closes within 6 to 3-0 Knights, who beat Bears by 3 in recent tourney final

SUNYIT clips Paul Smith 90-66 at home behind A. Gilkes 19 pts, 12 rebs. E. Belone 17 pts, LK Miller 10 pts, JP Adams 9 pts, 8 rebs in 11'. C. Reaves has eye cut to limit play to 21' and 6 pts

Plattsburgh falls 71-59 at 4-0 St. Lawrence which makes 13x25 3s. T. Gorham 22 pts, 12 rebs for Cards

New Paltz loses 77-72 at Vassar in opening round of Hudson Valley Shootout. NP yields 60-51 lead at 7:14 as hosts land three straight treys. Earlier NP overcomes 37-30 Vassar lead. J. Hauser 17 pts, T. Cannon 13 pts, frosh P. Oliver 13 pts for Hawks who meet Bard in Wednesday consi

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on November 29, 2006, 08:50:37 AM
"C. Reaves has eye cut to limit play to 21' and 6 pts"

Did he return after? Hope he is ok, the guy can play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: JQV on November 29, 2006, 08:58:09 AM
Lots of game summaries here.  Can someone give me a breakdown of the SUNYAC this season?  What did the pre-season coaches poll say, who are the teams to watch, who are the players to watch, etc?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 29, 2006, 10:26:37 AM
Jose, I don't believe there is a preseason poll anymore in the SUNYAC. They went away with it a couple of years ago. I believe Dick Bihr complained when his team didn't live up to expectations after they won the SUNYAC tourney the year before. It could be a down year for the SUNYAC because some many of the teams lost quality players.

On another note, Potsdam loses again to Clarkson. What is going on with the Bears? Expectations were high and they've looked awful with their only win coming against Vermont School for the Blind. Is Reinhardt playing above his head or has he gotten a lot better since last year?

Could Brockport be back to it's old ways with pressure defense all around and going deep into the bench? Causing 29 turnovers brings the Eagles back to the days of Ricky Hollis and Mark Perry.

Big win for Oneonta against Cortland. I would assume expectation at Cortland are high again because of what they return. They don't have experienced size which I'm sure hurt them against Heslin.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2006, 02:06:55 PM
Jose, check back on these pages for an early (preseason) look at SUNYAC. Looks very much to these eyes like wide open chase, but still very, very early. Bports and Geneseos trek to Plattsburgh and Potsday this weekend for interesting tests. And we're looking forward to see Cortland in first home outing Friday against Techsters of Utica
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: JQV on November 29, 2006, 02:14:30 PM
I'll definitely have my eye on Potsdam-'Port.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on November 29, 2006, 05:09:50 PM
Potsdam has certainly had it's hands full against Clarkson these past 2 weeks. However, this a very good Clarkson team. They are very well coached and run a very deliberate offense. For the 1st time in several years, they have an adequate bench. At 1 stretch last night they hit 7 consecutive 3's. Potsdam guards gave up 3-4 inches per man which partially contributed to the problem. Clarkson should make a run at the league title this year. Potsdam: I think you'll see them starting to rise....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2006, 11:26:50 PM
New Paltz all over Bard 108-86 in Hudson Valley Shootout consi. J. Hauser 17 pts, 5 rebs, 2 assts; T. Cannon 16 pts, 5 rebs; A. Foluke-Henderson 14 pts, 7 rebs; 4 stls. Hawks up 57-48 midway. Go 43x75fg and 7x14 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 30, 2006, 08:58:12 AM
Quote from: slickyquick on November 29, 2006, 10:26:37 AM
Jose, I don't believe there is a preseason poll anymore in the SUNYAC. They went away with it a couple of years ago. I believe Dick Bihr complained when his team didn't live up to expectations after they won the SUNYAC tourney the year before. It could be a down year for the SUNYAC because some many of the teams lost quality players.

On another note, Potsdam loses again to Clarkson. What is going on with the Bears? Expectations were high and they've looked awful with their only win coming against Vermont School for the Blind. Is Reinhardt playing above his head or has he gotten a lot better since last year?

Could Brockport be back to it's old ways with pressure defense all around and going deep into the bench? Causing 29 turnovers brings the Eagles back to the days of Ricky Hollis and Mark Perry.

Big win for Oneonta against Cortland. I would assume expectation at Cortland are high again because of what they return. They don't have experienced size which I'm sure hurt them against Heslin.

cortland lost arguably their 3 best players.........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on November 30, 2006, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 30, 2006, 08:58:12 AM
Quote from: slickyquick on November 29, 2006, 10:26:37 AM
Jose, I don't believe there is a preseason poll anymore in the SUNYAC. They went away with it a couple of years ago. I believe Dick Bihr complained when his team didn't live up to expectations after they won the SUNYAC tourney the year before. It could be a down year for the SUNYAC because some many of the teams lost quality players.

On another note, Potsdam loses again to Clarkson. What is going on with the Bears? Expectations were high and they've looked awful with their only win coming against Vermont School for the Blind. Is Reinhardt playing above his head or has he gotten a lot better since last year?

Could Brockport be back to it's old ways with pressure defense all around and going deep into the bench? Causing 29 turnovers brings the Eagles back to the days of Ricky Hollis and Mark Perry.

Big win for Oneonta against Cortland. I would assume expectation at Cortland are high again because of what they return. They don't have experienced size which I'm sure hurt them against Heslin.

cortland lost arguably their 3 best players.........



Is Mike Lewis from Central Square playing at Cortland? I know they were going after him pretty hard. The kid can play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: JQV on November 30, 2006, 09:02:39 AM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 30, 2006, 08:58:12 AM
Quote from: slickyquick on November 29, 2006, 10:26:37 AM
Jose, I don't believe there is a preseason poll anymore in the SUNYAC. They went away with it a couple of years ago. I believe Dick Bihr complained when his team didn't live up to expectations after they won the SUNYAC tourney the year before. It could be a down year for the SUNYAC because some many of the teams lost quality players.

On another note, Potsdam loses again to Clarkson. What is going on with the Bears? Expectations were high and they've looked awful with their only win coming against Vermont School for the Blind. Is Reinhardt playing above his head or has he gotten a lot better since last year?

Could Brockport be back to it's old ways with pressure defense all around and going deep into the bench? Causing 29 turnovers brings the Eagles back to the days of Ricky Hollis and Mark Perry.

Big win for Oneonta against Cortland. I would assume expectation at Cortland are high again because of what they return. They don't have experienced size which I'm sure hurt them against Heslin.

There's our boy.  +k to you CState.  I was hoping I wouldn't have to wait until next fall to spar with you some more.  I have been asking for some SUNYAC insight and been told it is pretty wide open.

Here is what I know:

-'Port is having early success with their pressure;
-Potsdam is underachieving a bit;

-Tell me what you know about Cortland.  They must play IC pretty soon.
cortland lost arguably their 3 best players.........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 30, 2006, 09:25:57 AM
thanks jose +k to you to.........ill let you know my early season thoughts after the game friday......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on November 30, 2006, 09:27:54 AM
Quote from: UCgrad45 on November 30, 2006, 09:02:12 AM
Quote from: cstate19 on November 30, 2006, 08:58:12 AM
Quote from: slickyquick on November 29, 2006, 10:26:37 AM
Jose, I don't believe there is a preseason poll anymore in the SUNYAC. They went away with it a couple of years ago. I believe Dick Bihr complained when his team didn't live up to expectations after they won the SUNYAC tourney the year before. It could be a down year for the SUNYAC because some many of the teams lost quality players.

On another note, Potsdam loses again to Clarkson. What is going on with the Bears? Expectations were high and they've looked awful with their only win coming against Vermont School for the Blind. Is Reinhardt playing above his head or has he gotten a lot better since last year?

Could Brockport be back to it's old ways with pressure defense all around and going deep into the bench? Causing 29 turnovers brings the Eagles back to the days of Ricky Hollis and Mark Perry.

Big win for Oneonta against Cortland. I would assume expectation at Cortland are high again because of what they return. They don't have experienced size which I'm sure hurt them against Heslin.

cortland lost arguably their 3 best players.........



Is Mike Lewis from Central Square playing at Cortland? I know they were going after him pretty hard. The kid can play.

http://www.cortland.edu/athletics/mbasketball/2006-07/mbbrost.pdf


thats whos playing
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 30, 2006, 10:04:04 AM
I know that Cortland lost their 3 "best players" but they are Sportland. They should still be good every year. They have phys. ed. and can get players into school.  They have some very good shooters back along with Headley who is always a dangerous player. They also brought in a very good recruiting class led by Mike Lewis from Central Square who was recruiting by basically everyone in the SUNYAC.

Let's just put it this way, the SUNYAC should run through defending champion Plattsburgh. They lose Gibbs-Smith and gain more experience with their guards along with JUCO transfer Khylan Hunt.

Now onto Potsdam. Regardless of how much better Clarkson has gotten, which I'm sure is a lot, judging from the scores, Potsdam just shouldn't lose to them. As long as Dobbs as been around they have played tough hardnosed "D" which Clarkson wasn't able to handle. Are the Potsdam guards putting on that same pressure? I doubt it but Clarkson's guard play is average. They may be experienced but they are definitely average.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on December 01, 2006, 09:56:09 AM
SUNY IT could be a decent team this year. Reaves is excellent and they can score. Their D is suspect and they seem kind of small. But they do have some talent.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2006, 11:06:46 AM
Slickyquick, we're going to hazard good guess that less than half of Sportland's roster are PE majors. That's been case in recent years. We'll get  roll call of the current outfit

SUNYIT at Cortland tonight in what should be interesting match. This is veteran Utica unit. And it did quite well last season. Kayoed Cortlands in tourney. Would expect nothing less than a contender, though Murphy's  moved on and Grimmer again holds reins. Reaves' court time limited on Tuesday because of ailing eye. Don't know immediate status

Joining SUNYIT at Cortland tonight for SUNYAC play: Bport at Pburgh, Gens at Pdam, Freds at NPaltz, BS at OnState
And Saturday has Gens at Pburgh, Bports at Pdams, UTech at OsState, Freds at OnSt.  Non-leaguer Corts hosting Alfred

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on December 01, 2006, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: UCgrad45 on December 01, 2006, 09:56:09 AM
SUNY IT could be a decent team this year. Reaves is excellent and they can score. Their D is suspect and they seem kind of small. But they do have some talent.

sunit returns about everyone from a team that got to the conference championship game and they COULD be good? great statement
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 01, 2006, 03:23:33 PM
Jdex, what I was trying to say is that if you have phys. ed. and you can get players into school you should be good every year. Cortland and Brockport are in the same boat.  They should be good every single year in every single sport. Phys. Ed. attracts a lot of good athletes. Ask any of other SUNYAC school coaches and they would love to have something along the lines of Sports Management or Phys. Ed. I believe Fisher has a major called Sports and Society (at least they did a couple of years ago). It is a major draw for kids, they just want to be involved with sports.

Some schools also have special programs ("Special Talent") for kids with lesser scores to get into school. Places like Geneseo (I know they are good academically but they still have it), Cortland, Brockport, and I'm sure there are a couple of others. Keep in mind Buff St and SUNYIT can get anyone that breathes into school, so they are slightly at an advantage. Plattsburgh can get transfers in with lower GPAs then normal. Potsdam, I'm not sure about but they don't always seem to have the brightest bulbs of the bunch. Oneonta and Fredonia, I'm not too sure about but similar to Potsdam some of their guys might need a couple of hours to finish a one hour test.

It is amazing to see one SUNYAC school not being able to get a kid in while others have no problem with them. You would think that it would be on a level playing field on a year to year basis as far as the admissions process goes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2006, 07:25:19 PM
Wow, some pretty broad characterizations. Am sure Potsdam, Oneonta and Fredonia folks in particular would take issue. We know Cortland for the first time had  excess of 10,000 applicants for 2006-07. Admission selection gets quite selective. We know coaches have to fight tooth and nail for "their" kids. Favoring "Talent" is available in most areas -- academic as well as athletic, though coaches certainly take more advantage. And it  really doesn't take a lot of numbers to succeed in basketball, as opposed to football. A couple of "players" will make it work. All  SUNYAC schools do mighty fine in staying competitive. We see a real horse race this winter.

Also, on Saturday slate add Buff St. at NPaltz

And, yes, we believe Mike Lewis will be a Cortland factor in not too distant future. Apparently just has to adapt to TSpan's schemes, especially defensively. Believe me, coach is very particular. Lewis and fellow 6-6 Paul Oliver are frosh pair who will figure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on December 01, 2006, 07:46:28 PM
Slickyquick,

I'm sure the two all-conference level players off Potsdam's Elite Eight squad who are in med school were given a few extra hours on their MCATs, too. 

Darn that silly NCAA for giving out those post-graduate fellowships to exemplary student-atheletes.  Same with the Chancellor's awards.

Please explain "not the brightest bulbs in the bunch" to all of us.  I'm eagerly awaiting your response.

Ever consider that the focus, drive and determination that make one a successful athlete might also be able to be transferred to academic pursuits as well?

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

-Abraham Lincoln

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2006, 10:27:42 PM
Utica Tech 93, Cortland 88 OT

Tech withstands big upset bid by home debuting Dragons who hold 49-33 first half lead. Tech gets rolling in second half and trails 63-57 at 11:45 on LaBoard hoop. His basket at 5:30 knots it at 73 but Corts regain edge. It's 81-78 at 1:48 as C. Reaves hits driving layup, and 81-80 on Reaves steal. A. Gilkes free throw on reb foul knots it at 81 in reg. Tech shows veteran savvy after going down 84-83 on D. Jutton trey. Reversal on E. Belone hoop. Reaves ft at 1:26 hike lead. Cortland shaky at the finish; misses some easy touches inside. Reaves goes with small bandage over right eye; comes alive in second half.  Gilkes sits much of second half with 4 pf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2006, 10:54:13 PM
C. Laboard 28 pts(9x17fg), 10 rebs; C. Reaves 25 pts(10-21fg), 10 rebs, 4 assts, 3 stls in 45'; A. Gilkes 9 pts, 13 rebs in 24'; E. Belone 17 pts(6x17fg) in 41'; P. Whalen 11 pts, 9 rebs in 36'. Tech trails 49-33 at the half when Cortland shoots 18x36fg and 6x10 3 with big bench lifts from M. Lewis and J. Miolan. Corts finish 31x80fg(13x31 3s) to Tech's 32x75fg.
D. Jutton 20 pts(6x16fg, 4x9 3s), 6 rebs in 40' for CState; D. Maggiacomo 16 pts(5x16fg, 3x8 3s); M. Jankiewicz 13 pts, 6 rebs; J. Miolan 12 pts(5x10fg) in 19'. Tech 54-44 board edge

New Paltz 61, Fredonia 56
Geneseo 67, Potsdam 64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2006, 11:33:25 PM
Brockport tips host Plattsburgh 74-72 on M. Wilkes' 2 free throws at 0.4. B. Williams 23 pts

Oneonta shakes 32-32 halftime knot with Buffalo St. and takes 11 pt. lead with 14' left. BS within 3 at 3' when W. Heslin, E. Bratt, K. Reed foul shooting the finishing touch. OState 21x27ft and 28x53fg. K. Reed 24 pts(9x14fg, 6x6ft), 8 reb, 4 stls, 3 assts; foul-troubled Heslin 21 pts (7x9fg, 7x8ft), 6 reb in 21'; E. Bratt 10 pts, 4 assts. OState 23 assts (R. Fitzgerald 5, M. Reardon 4). BS 29x70fg. B. Wood 14 pts(4x11fg, 3x5 3s), 4 assts, 3 stls; S. Lamar 12 pts(5x10fg) in 14'; D. Griggs 11 pts(5x8fg), 5 reb in 34'

New Paltz' A. Foluke-Henderson 13 pts, 13 rebs, 4 stls; T. Cannon 16 pts, 5 rebs; J. Hauser 9 pts; M. Irwin 9 pts. Hawks build on 29-28 halftime lead and hold 12 pt. edge before Fredonia within 58-56 at 2:35.

Geneseo's J. Kling 6 free throws in final 0:53 seals deal vs. Potsdam. Knights overcome 5 pt. deficit in second half and take largest lead at 65-62. Kling 10 pts(4x7fg, 8x8ft); S. Morton 17 pts(4x8fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on December 02, 2006, 12:34:45 AM
Quote from: unbearable on December 01, 2006, 07:46:28 PM
Slickyquick,

I'm sure the two all-conference level players off Potsdam's Elite Eight squad who are in med school were given a few extra hours on their MCATs, too. 

Darn that silly NCAA for giving out those post-graduate fellowships to exemplary student-atheletes.  Same with the Chancellor's awards.

Please explain "not the brightest bulbs in the bunch" to all of us.  I'm eagerly awaiting your response.

Ever consider that the focus, drive and determination that make one a successful athlete might also be able to be transferred to academic pursuits as well?

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

-Abraham Lincoln




Was Turner one of those guys that is in med school? He was always a smart kid. We were teammates in HS but I am not sure what his degree is in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on December 02, 2006, 12:35:16 AM
I've got to give props to IT on an impressive win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on December 02, 2006, 01:17:26 AM
I have to give props to me predicted sleeper (not really sleeper, but always underated) Geneseo. 

I rate Geneseo & Bport as the 2 top Sunyac teams this year.  However, the sunyac with heavy dependency on athleticism is very unpredictable and a streaky.  So just because people have predicitions on who may be at the top, it is never certain and in the past is definatly not the case. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on December 02, 2006, 11:18:44 AM
Brockport is starting to look like the villanova of last year. They start four guards and a forward and will be in your face for 40 minutes. They have 7 guards that can all play and that will even get better when shawn harris brother comes in next semester. Not sure of his name but he is another very good guard. This team is making it very tough for teams to get there offense started. They have 11 players getting pretty good minutes and are forcing teams to use timeouts just to catch there breath. The game at fisher is a good example of good guard play. Fishers guards are very young and were totally in over there heads, bport had a double digit lead for over half of that game. Just for the record bport is getting very hard to get into after they became a tier 2 sunyac school. You need about a 90 average along with a good sat score to be considered( i think an 1100?). As far as that special talent goes i believe the hoops team is allowed 1 per year. The football team is allowed 2.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 02, 2006, 11:32:25 AM
I do know of Potsdam's two medical students Christian Turner and Jim Connelly and I don't doubt their extremely high GPAs. I totally respect the things that they did to the program athletically and academically but....

Potsdam has not exactly been known, especially in the past, as a fine academic institution. I don't want to name names but there are some players that have been there within the past 5 or 6 years that have struggled quite a bit academically. I know there are also other players like that at other schools but I'm just saying Potsdam because it was one of the first schools that came to mind. And yes, I do know that they are one of the 3 tier II schools in the SUNYs along with Brockport and New Paltz.

Maybe, a lot of myself mentioning Potsdam has to do with the 80's era when Jerry Welsh was there. They were a straight bandit program, regardless of what anyone in the North Country believes. They had unreal players during that time, but to say they had scholars would be a total lie.  I do believe there are still players from that era who still haven't graduated. I'm sure it was the same at Buff St when they were good and possibly Brockport during the recent NCAA stretch.  I am just stating the facts that I know.

The idea of these schools from the general public is what I'm really going from.  If you ask someone if they think Buff St or SUNYIT is a good school, most people would chuckle.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on December 02, 2006, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: FisherDynasty on December 02, 2006, 01:17:26 AM
I have to give props to me predicted sleeper (not really sleeper, but always underated) Geneseo. 

I rate Geneseo & Bport as the 2 top Sunyac teams this year.  However, the sunyac with heavy dependency on athleticism is very unpredictable and a streaky.  So just because people have predicitions on who may be at the top, it is never certain and in the past is definatly not the case. 

no sunyit?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2006, 06:07:34 PM
Cortland bounces back from tough Friday loss to clip Alfred 72-58 at home. Begins to take charge late in first half, leads 40-26 at half, pushes margin to near 20 and withstands Saxons' comeback bid. Corts make 13 more ft (20x28 to 7x16) as both squads 23x59fg. R. Headley 15 pts(5x11fg), 5 reb, 2 stls for 3-2 Red Dragons. C. Niehoff 14 pts(8x10ft), 8 reb in 14'; M. Lewis 7 pts, 9 rebs, 2 stls in 21' -- latter pair off bench; D. Maggiacomo 9 pts(3x5 3s). Ten Dragons score. D. Stein 13 pts in 27'; J. Patt 12 pts; R. Clemenson 11 pts; P. Smithgall 11 rebs for 2-3 Alfs, who were minus top guard R. McCarter
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2006, 06:19:26 PM
Potsdam 98, Brockport 95
Oneonta 56, Fredonia 51
Buffalo St. 76, New Paltz 71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2006, 06:56:05 PM
Potsdam scores 62 in second half to erase 51-36 Bport halftime lead. Bears 21x33fg(5x8 3s) over final 20'. T. Reinhardt 24 pts(10x12fg), 7 rebs, 4 assts in 35'; D. Brownb 21 pts(6x9fg, 8x10ft), 4 stls, 8 assts; S. Mitchell 17 pts(6x11fg, 5x8 3s), 6 assts, 2 stls; B. Siskavich 14 pts(6x8fg); A. Williams 13 pts. Bears 24 assts, make 21x31ft, 35x59fg(7x16 3s). Bport's D. Maldonado 23 pts(7x14fg, 6x10 3s) but plays just 19'. Fouls out. B. Williams 18 pts, 11 rebs; M. Wilkes 19 pts(6x10fg, 5x8 3s). Eagles 29x63fg, 12x28 3s, 25x35ft

Plattsburgh 65, Geneseo 59
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2006, 07:16:54 PM
Oneonta goes to 3-0 in SUNYAC by pulling away from 25-24 halftime lead vs. guesting Fredonia; 14-2 run keyed by E. Bratt, K. Reed does the trick. Bratt 11 pts(4x6fg, 3x5 3s); Reed 10 pts, 7 rebs; R. Morin 10 pts(4x8fg) in 14'. Freds' K. Reichlmayr 21 pts(10x16fg), 8 rebs, 3 stls; K. Gordon 8 rebs (Fred 37-31 advantage); M. Moore 4 assts; A. Smith 13 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2006, 01:29:11 AM
Oswego outguns visiting SUNYIT 85-57. Leaps to 44-23 halftime lead, putting IT behind eight ball for second straight night. But unlike huge winning rally at Cortland, Tech can't handle multiple Laker weapons. E. Robertson 22 pts(9x13fg, 4x5 3s); M. Burridge 18 pts(6x10fg), 12 rebs; T. Franze 15 pts(6x8fg), 7 assts, 3 stls; K. Reuter 11 pts; T. Downing 5 assts. Oswego 34x64fg, 40 rebs; IT 25x63fg, 33 rebs. A. Gilkes 25 pts(11x14fg), 7 rebs in loss. C. Reaves 10 pts(4x11fg) in 32' after going OT route on Friday; C. LaBoard 6 pts, 9 rebs

Buffalo St. leads NP 39-35 at half and breaks 61-61 tie with 6:30 left. Bengals 30x65fg, 48 rebs. DJ Nubine-Mitchell 16 pts(6x7fg, 2x3 3s) in 12'; N. Wilkins 13 pts(3x8 3s) in 11'; D. Griggs 12 pts(5x6fg), 8 rebs in 32'. All three come off bench. D. Mozelle 12 pts, 8 rebs; B. wood 7 assts, 7 pts, 4 stls, 5 rebs. Big game from NP's A. Foluke-Henderson with 30 pts(13x20fg), 13 rebs, 2 assts, 2 stls. J. Hauser 14 pts, T. Cannon 14 pts. NP 28x74fg

Plattsburgh rallies. Down 27-23 at half and 41-26 at 14:16. Pull even at 46 at 8:35 and forge lead on A. Williams' 3pter at 4:56. Williams 18 pts, 8 rebs; J. Dumont 11 pts, T. Gorham 11 pts. Pburgh 35-29 reb advantage with 15 offensive grabs. Gen's T. Kitson 13 pts(6x12fg); J. Howe 11 pts(6x8fg), 7 assts; 5 rebs; B. Bennett 9 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on December 03, 2006, 11:41:04 AM
Wow bport blows a 15 pt second half lead to lose at potsdam. They almost swept the north country trip but potsdam comes out and shoots like 70% fg including around 75% behind the arc in the 2nd half. Hopefully bport learned a lesson from this, but all in all to go to the north and come out of it 1-1 is ok.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2006, 11:38:34 PM
Fredonia falls 66-57 in home opener vs. Pitt-Bradford. Tied at 41 PB goes on 11-0 string. Freds (1-5) in 32-29 arrears at half despite 12x25fg (finish 22x57). T. Alassari 15 pts(7x21fg), 5 rebs, 4 assts, 2 stls in 32'; K. Reichlmayr 14 pts(6x9fg), 6 rebs; A. Smith 12 pts(5x10fg); K. Saunders 10 pts. P-B fifth straight win
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2006, 12:09:56 PM
As we said, a horse race of pick 'em proportions ..... only one (conference) unbeaten, only two winless (including Cortland)

One SUNYAC tilt tonight: NPaltz at SUNYIT. Sorry, still prefer Utica Tech. At least that tells vicinity of the place!

Five others in pretty fair non-league hookups: StLarry at Pdam, Clarkson at Pburgh, IC at CState, OsState at Naz, Alfs at Gens

OnSt 3-0 (3-2), Bport 2-1 (5-1), Gen 2-1 (3-2), OsSt 1-1 (4-1), IT 1-1 (4-2), NP 1-1 (3-2), BS 1-1 (3-3), Pburgh 1-1 (3-3), Pdam 1-1 (2-4), CState 0-2 (3-2), Freds 0-3 (1-5)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2006, 10:24:51 PM
Cortland takes step back with 67-61 home loss to Ithaca. Lethargic Red Dragons never get going (as in 23x63fg, 6x20 3s -- looked even worse). IC no ball of fire, but had enough -- 22x54fg, 4x18 3s. CState shortcomings inside very evident. Bombers' 6-5 fr Tom Brown (8 pts, 2 reb in 13'  provides spark along with 6-5 soph J. Bostic (12 pts, 7 reb, 3 blck), and 6-4 sr S. Stahn. S. Burton (12 pt),  B. Clemente and S. Leahy (10 pt) hit late ft's. IC up most of way, 33-32 at half and should have been more. Up as much as 11 late. CState back within handful, then stumble. Corts 9x19ft hurts since IC goes 19x26ft. IC 17 trnvrs (Burton 7, 5 assts) to Corts 9. B. Joe 11 pts, 6 rebs.  IC five in double figures -- 12, 12, 11, 11, 10. R. Headley 14 pts(5x13fg), 7 reb for CSt, D. Maggiacomo 14 pts(5x7fg, 4x6 3s); J. Miolan active off bench for 7 pts; C. Niehoff 10 pts(4x12fg), 6 reb

SUNYIT 87, New Paltz 85
Geneseo 67, Alfred 50
St. Lawrence 76, Potsdam 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2006, 10:58:10 PM
Oswego wins 81-73 at Nazareth. M. Burridge 26 pts(8x15fg, 9x12ft), 16 reb in 39'; T. Franze 20 pts(8x17fg), 9 rebs; E. Robertson 14 pts; T. Downing 8 pts, 4 assts. Lakers 45-34 at half. Shoot 29x55fg to Naz 28x81. T. Smith 20 pts in loss, J. Canori 18, C. McAdam 13 and 7 assts

Geneseo romps. Up 39-22 at half on 9-0 late run. Extend to 19 early second half and plays 18 cagers. Shoots 15x29fg first halfand finishes 25x51(6x13 3s). S. Morton 16 pts(6x9fg, 2x4 3s), 4 assts, 2 stls in 32'; S. McDonnell 14 pts(5x6fg, 3x4 3s) in 14'

Potsdam's A. Williams 18 pts(8x13fg) in 22'; D. Taft 12 pts(4x6fg) in 19'; S. Mitchell 4 assts. Trails 39-28 at half. Saints' B. Vonnak 18 pts, 14 rebs. SL 45-36 reb margin. Pdam 20x57fg

Plattsburgh 73, Clarkson 63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2006, 01:21:25 AM
Plattsburgh ends Clarkson unbeaten streak at five. Leads 42-32 at half. Makes 9x21 3s overall in 23x59fg effort. A. Williams 17 pts(4x13fg, 4x6 3s); K. Hunt 17 pts(8x10fg) in 26'; J. Dumont 12 pts; M. Dietz 11 pts; T. Gorham 7 pts, 14 rebs. E. Vigansky 17 pts(7x9fg) in defeat

SUNYIT's C. Reaves breaks 81-81 tie at 1:04 and scores five straight points to finish 29 pt. night (12x23fg), 12 rebs, 7 assts, 5 stls, 2 blks, 7 trnvrs. C. LaBoard 21 pts(8x14fg), 11 rebs; E. Belone 17 pts(6x13fg); A. Gilkes 8 rebs. IT up 40-36 at half and 71-61 at 7:36 on Reaves trey. NP rallies. A. Foluke-Henderson 26 pts, 6 rebs; P. Oliver 22 pts, 5 rebs; T. Cannon 15 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assts, 5 stls. Shoots 31x72fg, IT 33x78. NP 49-44 reb edge
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 06, 2006, 09:43:49 AM
Potsdam loses to SLU by 16. I didn't watch the game but I noticed in the box score that leading scorer Tim Reinhardt didn't play at all. What is his status? Also, did any one else notice that 5'6" Scott Mitchell had 6 rebounds while 6'7" Brandon Siskavich had 2. Are you kidding me with that?

What a line Chris Reaves from SUNYIT posted. If he brought his "A" game every night he definitely be first time all league and possibly player of the year. He is basically a poor man's Allen Iverson.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on December 06, 2006, 06:17:52 PM
qs -

Check the SU (very tall front line) - Oklahoma State (bunch o' runts) box re: What's up with that.  Rebounding is as much or more about position, desire, and hustle than height. Coming out of Peru, it seems clear that Siskavitch learned to reach over competition. You know that won't typically cut it at this level - but Siskavitch is far from alone in that regard.

Mitchell, a certified lunatic on the court, backs down to no one, consistently works hard, and does know how to board from the guard spot.

Interesting SU - Potsdam similarity: neither has an aggressive floor leader taking names for individual's poor performances  - particularly on the defensive end. Neither going far in their respective divisions without one.

jdex - nice work with your posts. They are appreciated.

Props and prayers to the bear. Looking forward to seeing your posts when you're able. You are missed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2006, 09:52:01 PM
Z,
What's up with `The Bear'? Always appreciated his insight, especially from north country
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on December 07, 2006, 11:24:17 AM
Yes, what is up with the Bear? He is most interesting. I feel that Potsdam really misses Ernst Ducina more than anyone realizes as he was an outstanding defensive player who consistently guarded the leading scorer on the opposition. His 45% or so 3 pt. shot didn't hurt either. I do think that Damon Brown can become a player just like him as he has the tools, just needs the heart. As for the discussion about the academic requirements being a "little loose" at Potsdam, let's just say this: yes while the Final 8 team of 2 years ago does have 2 young men in Med School, the Conference had 2 All-SUNYAC All-Stars rejected from Potsdam due to grades. Put these 2 guys on the team and maybe we're looking at the Final 4. Then again, maybe they would have been on academic ineligibility so much that the team chemistry would have been destoyed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2006, 12:29:11 PM
Cortland travels to Utica College tonight. Oneonta at Cazenovia.

CState coming off its worst showing. Doesn't get easier against E8 competition. Hosts RIT Dec. 15, draws Fisher in first round of York (Pa) tourney Dec. 29 and is home to RPI Jan. 6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 07, 2006, 04:34:24 PM
Again, I know about the med school students and also the all-SUNYAC players that were rejected, I even know the names of those two student-athletes. What I am saying and what I will continue to say is that the reputation of Potsdam to the general public isn't super high. Their standards have increased a lot in the past of years.  A lot of adults think of Potsdam(the town) being full of bars.

I'm sure someone will give the average GPAs and SAT scores of each school in the conference to show me how great of a school Potsdam is.

I just want to see the GPAs and SAT scores of the guys that played for Jerry Welsh when they went to the NCAA finals 5 out of 7 years.  That might help me in my argument.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on December 07, 2006, 08:20:30 PM
Help - I'm looking for the SUNYAC board and all I'm getting is the History Channel.

Conspiracy theorists, Bushkateers, and fans and alumni of every team that Welsh's Bears used and abused have been barking about this, that, and the other for well over 20 years.

The myth grows greater, claims of a Welsh-led cabal grow wilder, and fact further receeds into the past of those who were there.

Publish individual's GPAs and SATs from 1985? I'll get Marty McFly, Biff, and Doc on the case yesterday.

Seems that Welsh is to SUNYAC as Murphy will to the Liberty League if they're still comparing Tobin Anderson to "The Legend" in 2032.

I morn for the bits and bytes trapped in this black hole of hyperbole.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2006, 10:38:22 PM
Cortland bows 72-58 at Utica College whose R. Bryant scores 32 (12x18fg, 3x4 3s) and adds 9 rebs, 5 assts, 4 stls with but 1 trnvr. UC in charge 39-33 at half on 16x31fg though 0x9 3s. C. Niehoff 14 pts(4x7fg) pace CState in 25' stint. D. Maggicomo 13 pts(5x11fg, 3x6 3s) in 26'; R. Headley 11 pts(5x11fg), 6 rebs; M. Schaller 3 assts in 20'; M. Jankiewicz 3 assts. UC's D. Herring 11 pts(5x10fg), 6 assts. Corts 17 trnvrs, outboarded 33-29. UC 29x59fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2006, 11:04:37 PM
 Cazenovia sinks Oneonta 75-72 at Caz. Home side builds 39-26 lead at break. Tied at 60 at 5:30 on K. Reed FTs before P. Marshall fg at 5:23 puts Caz up for keeps. Lead grows to 5, shrinks to 1 at 1:20. Caz extends at 1:07. W. Heslin 25 pts(20x22fg), 10 rebs in 27' for OState; E. Bratt 15 pts(5x12fg), 4 assts; J. Murphy 9 pts, 10 rebs; K. Reed 10 rebs. Dragons with 60 rebs (29 offensively) to Caz 36. S. Zavackis 16 pts(8x10fg) for Caz. Plays just 18' and fouls out. J. Winans 15 pts(6x13fg) in 40'; E. Sauer 14 pts. OSt 28x74fg, 3x18 3s. Caz 31x75fg, 7x28 3s.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2006, 06:56:04 PM
Friday NC slate has Potsdam and Oneonta attempting to get upright against visitors Alfred and Hartwick, respectively. Fredonia at this posting already in action vs. Houghton in opening round of tourney at RIT (vs. Hobart)

Saturday card takes New Paltz to John Jay and, in a good measuring stick,  Geneseo to Fisher. Also, SUNYIT at home to Utica in matinee rematch of earlier tourney test at UC (won by UC). And Potsdam is home to Ithaca at 4. Fredonia finishes up in RIT tourney
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2006, 10:07:05 PM
Fredonia in `free fall,' drops 70-63 issue to Houghton, which goes 19x30ft to Freds' 3x8 in opener of RIT tourney. Big ft discrepancy but not pf -- 19 Fredonia, 15 Houghton. Go figure. Fredonia by 28-23 at break, tied at 19:11, trails forever after at 12:15 by 42-41. Houghton by as many as 12. K. Saunders 18 pts(7x12fg, 4x6 3s) for victims, whose K. Reichlmayl 16 pts(7x11fg); A. Smith 14 pts(7x8fg), 5 rebs; B. Cooper 12 pts(5x13fg), 5 assts, 3 stls. Freds 27x50fg, 6x15 3s. Y. Auzulini 20 pts(7x7fg) in win. Fredonia 1-6 and meets RIT/Hobart loser at 1 Sat. Houghton 4-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2006, 10:29:24 PM
Potsdam sinks Alfred 68-62 from ft stripe, making 21x22 in second half. Bears trail 29-25 at half when they went 0x1ft, 11x34fg. Only 21x64fg overall, 5x16 3s, outboarded 44-41. B. Siskavich 19pts(6x15fg), 10 reb; A. Dike 16 pts(5x11fg), 12 rebs in 30' off bench; S. Mitchell 10 pts, 6 assts. Alfs 13x19ft. D. Stein 13 pts, 14 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2006, 10:39:59 PM
Hartwick at Oneonta on Saturday night .....

Potsdam's T. Reinhardt back in lineup. Missed previous game for ??? Had 9 pts(2x11fg), 9 rebs in 31' vs. Alfs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on December 09, 2006, 10:15:19 AM
Yes, Tim Reinhardt was definitely bothered by the mask coving his face due to his broken nose. It was easy to see that he couldn't judge distances at all. Still hustled as usual.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 09, 2006, 12:56:01 PM
Siskavich finally has a double figured rebound game. I think it might be the 1st of his career.  Nice to see Reinhardt back. Somewhat surprising that no one knew what was wrong with me while he was sitting out the SLU game. Big game for Potsdam today in attempts to finish the 1st semester on a high note.

Did anyone notice that Brockport has almost a month off after their games last weekend. They don't play until Dec. 30. Kind of unusual. Might give some transfers (?) more time to adjust. Any word on who they plan on bringing in. Just speculation here, they usually bring in one or two players. I think someone said Shawn Harris' brother is coming in. Any other ideas?

Is anyone surprised by Plattsburgh's slow start. They are extremely talented and I'm somewhat shocked how up and down they have been.

Fredonia is struggling again. At least now they have some talented freshmen, but as we all know you can't completely rely on freshmen in the SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2006, 01:49:08 PM
Plattsburgh slow start? Not really. Cards 4-3. Three losses to current 6-2 Conn. Coll by 3, 8-0 St. Lawrence by 12 (6 midway thru 2nd half) and 5-1 Bport by 2 (but at home)

Bports simply didn't add holiday festivities like SUNYIT heading to Vegas, NP to CA and Hawaii (vs. Chaminade), Oswego to VA, and of particular note BS to Orlando where Bengals on morning of 12/22 duel Lincoln, Ind. Yes, the Lincoln of 201 pt. (in)famy this month. The Lincs 5-1 and today vs. Ramapo. Later vs. John Jay, R. Stockton ...... BS on 12/20 in Orlando vs. Albion, MI.
At least Bport has already played at home this season

Fredonia opposing Hobart at this moment in RIT tourney consi. RIT by 19 over Barts on Fri.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2006, 03:52:35 PM
Hobart 58, Fredonia 54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2006, 05:03:02 PM
SUNYIT gunned down by Utica College in 99-76 final after 48-35 thru half. UC 20x36fg in opening 20' and concludes 39x68fg with 55 rebs to IT;s 24 and 24x68fg. R. Bryant paces win with 26 pts(11x18fg), 20 rebs in 32'. J. Lighthall 25 pts(12x15fg), 7 rebs; B. Collier 13 pts; R. Whyte 11 pts(4x7fg) in 16'. IT's C. LaBoard 28 pts(8x19fg, 2x5 3s); E. Belone 19 pts(7x11fg), 3x6 3s); P. Whalen 12 pts; C. Reaves 10 pts(4x12fg, 1x6 3s), 5 assts, 5 stls. UC 6-1, IT 5-3

Fredonia whipped by 20x22 Bart free throwing (Freds 6x10ft). Bart by 22-17 at half, Fredonia up at 5:42 by down for good at 4:22. A. Smith 14 pts; K. Reichlmayr 13 pts(6x9fg), 5 stls, 7 rebs; K. Gordon 10 pts, 3 assts. Hobart 16x37fg. J. Grazioli leads Statesmen with 15 pts, 7 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls in 27'. Bart 2-5, freds 1-7
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2006, 07:53:22 PM
Potsdam beaten 91-78 at home by Ithaca, whose Bombers shoot 36x62fg and 7x11 3s. IC opens up 46-35 halftime lead on 19x29fg and 4x5 3s. Potsdam's S. Mitchell 21 pts(8x13fg, 5x9 3s), 5 assts; T. Reinhardt 16 pts(7x13fg), 7 rebs; A. Williams 12 pts; D. Brown 6 assts; B. Siskavich 10 pts(4x13fg). Bears with 19 assts, but IC with 27! S. Burton 23 pts(8x14fg, 7x9 3s), 4 assts for IC. J. Bostic 19 pts(9x11fg), 7 rebs; T. Brown 8 rebs, 7 rebs; S. Stahn 15 pts, 5 assts; B. Joe 6 assts. Pdam 27x62fg, 11x19 3s. Bears 3-6, IC 4-3

New Paltz tops John Jay 76-68, rallying from 39-35 deficit at half. A. Foluke-Henderson 19 pts(7x11fg), 6 rebs; J. Hauser 17 pts, 10 rebs; M. Irwin 7 assts

Ooops. Opened another SUNYAC post head by mistake. Believe SUNYIT's loss there, along with Fredonia bit
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2006, 01:54:01 AM
Geneseo in crushing 63-62 slip at Fisher where Knights scoreless over final six minutes. Lead by 7 at 6:15. SJF ties at 62 at 3:40 and wins on first of two D. McSweeny ft's at 0:04. Gen leads 39-34 at half after up by as many as 9. Never relinquish lead until end. Misses two FTs at 2:02. S. Morton 14 pts(6x12fg); J. Kling 12 pts(5x8fg), 5 stls; J. Howe 6 rebs. Goes 27x51fg to Fisher's 26x59. SJF 39-27 reb gap and Gen just 7x14ft. McSweeney 25 pts(11x13fg), 9 rebs; J. Beigel 12 pts(5x9fg), 8 rebs; I. Smalt 7 rebs off bench

Oneonta stays winless (0-4) outside SUNYAC (3-0) with 57-49 fall to Hartwick. Wick by 29-22 at intermission. OSt 20x55fg, 4x17 3s; Wick 21x53fg. J. Murphy 11 pts; E. Bratt 11 pts(4x14fg, 2x11 3s); W. Heslin 10 pts; M. Reardon 5 assts. Wick's C. Carson 18 pts(7x13fg), 6 rebs, 2 assts, 3 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on December 10, 2006, 03:12:56 AM
E8 is definately better then the SUNYAC this year.  Not trying to cause controversy, but the SUNYAC is a year away from being the best conf. in the region.  They'll get there but not yet.  Geneseo the best in my opinion loses to Fisher.  (doesnt mean they're worse then fisher since fisher was hosting) but all the teams in the SUYAC have been all over the place so far.  Bport still has a good record but they are playing above theire means right now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 11, 2006, 04:22:56 PM
FisherDynasty,

I'll agree with you so far. The SUNYAC changes so much once it gets into league though. The one difference between the SUNYAC and the Empire 8 is that wins on roadtrips aren't automatic like they are in the Empire. In the SUNYAC anyone can lose to anyone, in part because of the long road trips and the tough environments.

When you think about it everyone in the Empire is at the most 3 hours away while the SUNYAC could be 5 to 6 hours especially for Potsdam, Plattsburgh, New Paltz, and Fredonia. When you go the North Country, you will be lucky to go 1-1. That trip just wears on players and coaches alike. It is also a problem when teams have to travel to places like Oneonta on Tuesday nights four hours and then try and play a game. That is usually a tough trip.

I don't know if I agree with you on Brockport. They actually could get better if their rumored transfers come in. So we'll just have to see on that one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on December 12, 2006, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on December 11, 2006, 04:22:56 PM
FisherDynasty,

I'll agree with you so far. The SUNYAC changes so much once it gets into league though. The one difference between the SUNYAC and the Empire 8 is that wins on roadtrips aren't automatic like they are in the Empire. In the SUNYAC anyone can lose to anyone, in part because of the long road trips and the tough environments.

When you think about it everyone in the Empire is at the most 3 hours away while the SUNYAC could be 5 to 6 hours especially for Potsdam, Plattsburgh, New Paltz, and Fredonia. When you go the North Country, you will be lucky to go 1-1. That trip just wears on players and coaches alike. It is also a problem when teams have to travel to places like Oneonta on Tuesday nights four hours and then try and play a game. That is usually a tough trip.

I don't know if I agree with you on Brockport. They actually could get better if their rumored transfers come in. So we'll just have to see on that one.


That won't be the same when Stevens is added to the conference. I assume one other school in that area will be added as well to keep it at an even number.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on December 12, 2006, 03:18:38 PM
Who is Bport supposed to be getting? They always seem to pull in some good transfers.  If they get a 6'3, 6'4 slasher or a big man they could be very dangerous.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 12, 2006, 03:52:58 PM
I think someone on here said that Shawn Harris' brother is coming. There might be one or two more. I think we will have to wait and see what Whitmore has up his sleeve when the semester begins.
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Post by: slickyquick on December 13, 2006, 10:29:11 AM
Like the other East Region boards, lets talk about best players from the '00 to the '07 season. Here's my list. I'm sure I will forget someone.

PG - Ricky Hollis - Brockport or Nick Perioli - Oswego
SG - Michael O'Steen - Oswego
SF - Tom Williams - Cortland
PF - Mike Medbury - Brockport
C - Brandon Mills - Brockport or Eldon Harris or Andre Peterson - both from Potsdam

The center position is very tough figure out so I put all 3 in there. I don't know if there is much argument on the other 4 but we'll just have to see what other people have to say.
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Post by: BBM on December 14, 2006, 03:11:14 PM
Good choices at center except for Andre Peterson. He played more of a #4 man. His injury problem kept him from being the best every night. As for the #3 man, I would have to give Edane Barton a share of that position. He was at the top of the conference in both scoring and in rebounding the past 2 years. For 6'2" that is quite an accomplishment. Any word on how his pro career is going in Europe?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 15, 2006, 10:54:00 AM
The reason I put Peterson at the five is because he played more on the inside when he teamed up with Guida. I would say he was definitely a "5" in their system. He could've been a lot better if he was in better shape.

I'm not sure what is going with Edane Barton, as far as his professional career goes. I placed Tom Williams there because Barton was a good player on a couple of very good teams. He did have the tendency to disappear in some games. He had the potential to be one of the best players in the region but he was very up and down with his stats. Tom Williams was the best player in the SUNYAC for a couple of years and I believe led Cortland to back to back Sweet 16s.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 15, 2006, 01:35:19 PM
Friday evening has Cortland hosting RIT at 6 at The Pete. Buffalo State's holiday tourney first round pairings: D'Youville vs. Hilbert at 6, BS vs. Medaille at 8. Finals Saturday

CState foe RIT coming off nice win over pretty fair York, NY outfit (6-4)which holds `W' over d3.com nationally ranked Wm Paterson (8-1). As noted earlier here by Johnny Mac, ex-Cortland/Bport performer Jon Rother suiting up with WP, whose next foe is Seton Hall tonight at SH (exh for the Hall but reg season game for WP. The 6-7, 250 lb Rother has made five starts and averaging 15', 6 pt and 3 rebs; shooting 75%fg (21x28, 3x4 3s) but only 9x18ft. By the way, York's other slips to unbeatens NYU, Rutgers-Newark and regarded NC Wesleyan

SUNYACs stack up thusly ....
OnSt 3-0 (3-4), Bport 2-1 (5-1), IT 2-1 (5-3), Gen 2-1 (4-3), OsSt 1-1 (5-1), Pburgh 1-1 (4-3), BS 1-1 (3-3), Pdam 1-1 (3-6), NP 1-2 (4-3), CSt 0-2 (3-4), Fred 0-3 (1-7)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 15, 2006, 08:34:39 PM
Another tough Cortland loss, this one 63-62 administered at home by RIT and C. Roy who hit game-winning bucket at :05. Red Dragons just took 62-61 lead on C. Niehoff's deep 3pter from right wing. Roy (2x5fg, 4 pts, 4 rebs, 3 assts, 31') dribbled across lane and swished short jumper from right side. CSt got off uncontested bid from left corner at horn. Gangbusters Corts opening, led 30-18 about 7' from half that ended 34-30 CSt. Hosts widened gap to 10 in 2nd half before RIT took slight edge in final moments. Frantic finish ensued. D. Maggiacomo 15 pts (5x11fg, 3x5 3s, 6 rebs, 2 blks) for Corts; Niehoff 11 pts (5x11fg), 7 rebs in 25'; D. Jutton 10 pts (4x8fg). Shoot 25x61fg(8x20 3s) and 38-32 reb edge vs. bigger Tiggers. RIT 25x58 fg(4x19 3s). Wins via 9x12ft to CSt 4x8. Only 6pf vs. RIT until it gives late pair. B. Zeinfield 15pts (5x18fg, 3x13 3s), 4 stls; K. Gethers 13 pts(5x12fg), 7 rebs, 4 blks; T. Bacon 11 pts(5x9fg), 7 rebs. Corts 3-5, RIT 5-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 15, 2006, 10:46:36 PM
Buffalo St. ground up Medaille 78-44 in BS tourney start. Goes 17x35fg first half for 40-19 bulge. Finishes 33x67fg as 13 score and 12 play 11' or more. D. Mozelle 12 pts(6x6fg) in 17'; I. Skylark 12 pts(5x9fg, 2x4 3s), 6 rebs in 11'; D. Griggs 11 pts(3x6fg), 13 rebs in 23'. BS meets Hilbert in Sat final at 8. Hilbert over D'Youville 69-54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 17, 2006, 01:22:56 AM
Buffalo St. polishes off Hilbert 85-75 in BS tourney final. Bengals 30x38ft. Hold 36-29 half margin and shoot 13x24fg over final period. Wind up 26x58fg. B. Wood 19 pts(5x12fg, 9x12ft), 7 assts, 4 stls; D. Griggs 15 pts(6x9fg), 5 reb, 5 pf in 29'; I. Skylark 15 pts(4x9fg), 6x8ft); J. Jones 7 rebs. Latter duo off bench. BS 25 trnvrs to Hilbert's 29 along with 15x21ft and 29pf (2 starters dq'd, three other players with 4). Hilbert  14x26fg 2nd half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 19, 2006, 05:42:02 PM
Buffalo St. back on court tonight in Orlando vs. 2-4 Albion, MI at 6 in tourney. Plays again Friday morn at 11 vs. 5-3 Lincoln, which has lost twice since scoring 201 pts.  Lincoln earlier vs. 5-2 No. Central, IL. BS 5-3

SUNYIT in action Thursday at 3:30 in Las Vegas vs. 4-2 St. Joe's, LI. Uticans on Friday at 5:45 vs. 5-3 UW Stout or 6-1 Buena-Vista, IA

Update: Wm Paterson beaten 83-56 at d1 Seton Hall, though only down 41-35 at half. No J. Rother in box

And, CSt skipper T. Spanbauer's nephew E. Spanbauer with 6 pts in Niagara Falls win over Syracuse-area Jamesville-DeWitt at SU Dome last Sunday. Part of four games showcasing some top scholastic talent including several SU-bound players. NF heralded guard Jonny Flynn (33 pts in duel with J-D soph star B. Triche) one of them. Spanbauer is 6-7 junior with interest in Cortland
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 19, 2006, 06:21:56 PM
Oneonta in Hawaii!! Who knew? Red Dragons lost 60-57 to Nebraska's NAIA Dana College on Sunday. Trail 31-25 at half to 4-9 foe. W. Heslin only OStater in double figures with 20 pts(8x14fg) and 11 rebs. OSt 3-5

OSt. tonight at 11 (EST) plays Canada's Simon Fraser U.  SF on Monday defeated Dana 72-69. New Paltz next week in Hawaii
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 19, 2006, 09:30:34 PM
Tough keeping days straight during holidays. So .........Buffalo St. actually opens in Orlando on Wednesday night
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 20, 2006, 11:29:16 AM
Oneonta drops fifth in a row, but does it in Honolulu. You can't feel too bad for Red Dragons. Simon Fraser U. of Canada takes 82-62 verdict in Hoop & Surf Tourney consi. SF (13-7) is 23x36fg(5x8 3s) and 31x38ft. Holds 40-23 lead at half. OSt shoots 22x56fg(5x23 3s). E. Bratt 10 pts(4x7fg, 2x5 3s) in 21', most time of any Dragon. Thirteen OSters score and all 14 have at least one of team's 24 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 20, 2006, 09:20:08 PM
Buffalo St. stays on a roll with 65-59 dispatch of Albion in Orlando tourney. BS's I. Skylark in starting cast and breaks tie of 59 with 3 pter at 0:35. B. Wood sinks 2 ft at 0:13 and Bengals add ft at 0:02. BS never trails and holds widest lead of 9 in first half. Leads 31-27 at half, shooting 9x23ft. Finishes 19x50fg(8x21 3s) and 19x30ft. Wood 17 pts(6x13fg, 2x4 3s), 3 assts, 2 stls in 35'; Skylark 9 pts(3x6fg) in 22'. Albion 11x17ft. Bengals 6-3 and face Lincoln Friday morn
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 21, 2006, 09:40:55 PM
SUNYIT wins over St. Joe's, LI 75-74 on last-second E. Belone bucket in opener of Orlando tourney. A. Gilkes 18 pts, 9 rebs; C. LaBoard 14 pts, 13 rebs; Belone 14 pts, 7 rebs; C. Reaves 12 pts. Play Friday night at 8:45 vs. winner of tonight's UW Stout/Buena Vista test
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Post by: njlincolnlion on December 22, 2006, 02:24:20 PM
Lincoln beats Buffalo State 110-103 in OT at the Orlando Tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 22, 2006, 04:45:52 PM
Buff St. trails nearly entire contest. Never by much, though 47-45 half deficit turns to double figures early in final period. B. Wood hoop at 0:17 left in reg knots at 96. D. Mozelle deuce has Bengals up in OT and N. Wilkins `3' makes it 101-98. Lincs tie at 3:20 Ja'Juan Robinson last of 29 pts (11x20fg) gives them lead for keeps at 2:44. Lincs 7x7ft in OT. Mozelle 29 pts(11x17fg), 7 rebs for BS; Wood 20 pts(5x17fg), 6 rebs, 5pf in 42'; WILKINS 18 pts(6x12 3s). BS 35x83fg(17x34 2nd half), 12x36 3s, 21x34ft. Besides Wood pf, Mozelle, Skylark (19'), Griggs (6 rebs, 27') and Guiden have 4 each. Lincs 32x72fg, 29x37ft and 48-44 reb edge. BS 6-4, Lincs 7-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 23, 2006, 01:24:43 AM
SUNYIT beaten 79-62 by UW-Stout in Las Vegas tourney final. IT by 6 at intermission. Stout 7-3 and edged Buena Vista 57-56 in opener

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 27, 2006, 06:05:35 PM
New Paltz tonight at Bethany, CA.  And Sunday tackles Chaminade in HI
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 28, 2006, 10:58:16 AM
New Paltz hits 15x28fg in second half to wipe out 42-41 halftime deficit in 81-71 west coast victory at Bethany, CA expense. A. Foluke-Henderson huge game with 30 pts(15x18fg), 7 rebs, 4 assts, 7 stls in 35'. T. Cannon 16 pts(6x17fg), 13 rebs, 6 assts; J. Hauser 10 pts(4x11fg), 7 rebs. NP 33x68fg, 10x20ft, 5x15 3s. Beths 30x76fg, 6x19ft, 47-41 reb edge. On to Hawaii
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Post by: unbearable on December 28, 2006, 03:30:56 PM
Please forgive the length of the post.  I thought this was worth reading.

One Falcon's quest
Albany High coach Turner values books over basketball 
 
By DAVID FILKINS, Staff writer
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First published: Sunday, December 24, 2006

Albany n the first day of basketball tryouts this fall at Albany High School, first-year varsity coach Troy Turner stood before potential players in an empty cafeteria, holding a book in one hand and a basketball in the other.
He set the ball on a table, raised the book and said, "This is 10 times more valuable."

The players responded by giving Turner what he described as a "what-are-you-talking-about look." He continued his lecture anyway, discussing survival, success, how sports can go at any time and including his favorite saying, that education equals money.

Turner spent the rest of the evening wondering how his message had been received, if at all. He found out the next day, when a student who struggled academically approached Turner and said he wasn't going to try out.

"Why?" Turner asked.

"It was something you said," the student responded. "That our education is our money. I have to value that and focus on my schoolwork before I play basketball."

Turner sees the student almost every day. The speech inspired change.

"He's on his way," Turner said. "He caught the essence of what I was saying."

That is the kind of man Albany hired when it brought Turner on as varsity coach over the summer: a guy who as a teenager asked a coach not about shooting or passing but about getting kids to listen; who earned a degree in economics but abandoned his dreams of becoming a stockbroker to work with kids; who calls basketball the "carrot" for getting players to care about their education.

Though Albany has started the season just 2-5, his players are taking the carrot. There are eight seniors on the team. All are expected to attend college next fall. Mandatory study halls and required grade averages ensure the Albany basketball program's future is bright, whether in the classroom or on the court.

As Turner's friend and advisor Mark Bobb-Semple said: "The kids aren't just hearing the words. They're listening."

Turner, 43, was born in Albany in 1963 and lived in Arbor Hill until 1977, when his family moved to the Green Street Projects in the South End. This is where he began playing basketball, mostly in Washington Park and at the Albany Boys & Girls Club, under the watchful eyes of some of the city's finest players and coaches: guys like Fred Daniels, Herb Crossman, Robert Bowman, Nate Bland, Ticky Burden, Jim "Booie" Traynham and Joe Roberts.

But more than just basketball, Turner studied those who had tasted success, analyzing how and why they got to the top. Roberts was one of the most influential. He ran the Human Resource Basketball Program in Albany when Turner was a teenager. The program provided students with jobs during the summer and allowed one week off to attend Roberts' basketball clinic.

A photo was taken during the clinic, showing Turner, 13 or 14 at the time, zoning in on Roberts as he spoke. The other children in the photo weren't paying attention. Years later Turner asked Roberts what he remembered about him as a child.

"You used to listen," Roberts said.

Turner went on to become a star at Albany High, an unselfish guard who could shoot, defend and had sound fundamentals. He graduated in 1981 and played under Bill Kirsch and his assistant, John Griffin, at Siena before transferring to Potsdam and winning the Division III national championship in 1986.

After graduation Turner became a substitute teacher at Albany High and "caught the bug." He gave up on becoming a stockbroker and turned his focus toward helping children, first with the Albany Youth Program and most recently as the home school coordinator at Albany High. He also started an AAU team, Davies Athletic Club, in 1997. The program is funded by Davies Office Refurbishing owner Bill Davies, who trusts Turner so much he funds the program and gets out of Turner's way, no questions asked.

The AAU program provides more than just a basketball education, offering SAT prep, a study hall and life skills training.

"Education and AAU are like oil and water," Turner said. "But basketball is the carrot. We use that carrot to get kids into college."

More than 80 percent of the Davies AAU players have gone to college. All have been from the inner city. Turner seeks similar success at Albany High.

The gym was empty at 3:30 p.m. on a recent Wednesday. High school basketball teams nationwide were practicing at this time, shooting, passing and developing as teams and players. But not at Albany High.

Practice came later. First, the action occurred in room 125.

Three dozen young men, members of the freshman, JV and varsity basketball teams, were seated in the small room. Turner stood in the front, 72 eyes on him.

"What are life skills?" he asked.

More than half the boys raised their hands. Turner pointed to El-Shahiem Coles, a senior.

"Necessities for life," Coles said.

Players come to this study hall every Wednesday and Thursday to finish their work and listen to inspirational speakers. Turner has brought in Albany YMCA executive director Orville Abrahams, Albany Patroons assistant coach Derrick Rowland and former Albany High football player Jeremy Horn, now playing on scholarship at Syracuse. By the season's end, Turner hopes to bring in Albany County District Attorney David Soares, former NBA player Chris Mullin and a host of other success stories.

The players are buying into his system. Turner requires they have a 70 average to compete. That number will increase to 75 next year, then 80, capping at 85 the following year.

"At first we thought it was whack," sophomore William Chapple said. "We thought it was a joke. But now we see it's to make things easier in the future. Like (Turner) says, we're called student-athletes because we're students first and athletes second."

"Demanding we have a certain grade is smart," senior Luke LeReau added. "They're trying to get us into college. High school isn't the end. It's just the beginning."

Turner sees room for growth despite recent success. When Horn visited last week, players on the basketball team asked him how fast he could run, who his favorite player was, and if he wanted to play in the NFL, rather than asking about the adversity he has overcome, having lived on his own since age 15.

Turner intervened because the line of questioning wasn't satisfactory.

"Ask about his pain," Turner said. "A lot of people fold when they feel that pain. Think about when you're running. You feel the pain and ask what is the value of pain? Is it better for you? What can it do for you? Will you be better off in the end because of it?"

Later, Turner laughed about his frustration.

"It's a work in progress," he said. "You can't win unless you're in the race. Our guys are in the race."

Turner said what he and his staff have accomplished is a testament to the kids in the program. Their lives aren't always easy, living in a densely populated area where temptation lurks around every corner.

Albany booster club member Bernie Mulligan has worked with most of the kids at some point. As he said: "None of these guys live in Loudonville. They're good kids, but don't come from areas that often breed success."

Enith Perry, a senior, lives on Judson Street in the West Hill section of Albany. One side is made up of solid one- and two-family homes; the other side is littered with abandoned buildings, 10 in all. The street is a microcosm of life in the inner city. The good and the bad.

Perry is the good. He helps the woman up the street with her day-care service. He's an usher at the Star of Bethlehem Church on Clinton Avenue. He plays with the neighborhood kids in the summer and fixes their bicycles.

Perry could have been swallowed up by the street. Some of his friends were. They respect him for staying strong. "You're doing it, man. Keep it up," they tell him after he drops 20 points in a game or gets called a role model by his teachers.

The lanky forward with a grade average in the high 80s wants to play basketball and major in English or physical education. Probably at Brockport or Cortland. He could start college next month if he wanted to. He has enough credits to graduate but is taking extra classes because he enjoys learning and wants to walk across the stage with his classmates.

Perry is not the exception; he's just one example of a basketball player at Albany High striving for success. There are others.

Chapple is part of the Sponsored Scholar Program, which takes honor students on college visits and job shadows. LeReau has an 89 average and will likely study business at New Paltz. Senior forward Malcolm Bland has an average in the high 80s and scored better than 1,100 on his SAT. Corey Aviza, whose average is above 90, just got accepted at Cortland. And Isaiah Duke, a junior, gets college credit for taking advanced placement classes.

This kind of student can be found throughout the athletic program and the general student body. But as much as school officials would like the public perception of Albany High as a dangerous school to change, they understand where it comes from. Fights. Stabbings. Emergency school board meetings. All have occurred within the past year. The negative publicity has had such an effect that a public relations official was on hand during most of the interviews for this story, which is nearly unheard of in high school athletics.

What Turner, his players, new athletic director Kathleen Ryan, members of the student body and almost everyone else associated with Albany High says is that while a problem with violence does exist, it represents an extremely small portion of the 2,326-member student body, and that the actions of a few overshadow the good occurring in the classrooms.

"A lot of parents won't send their kids to Albany High," Chapple said. "But there is a great opportunity to learn here. They see the way kids dress on the street and say, 'OK, I see how it is,' but those same kids are honor students."

Ryan has made a difference during her short time on the job. Under a policy she instituted at the beginning of the year, students failing three classes cannot compete, though they must continue to practice and attend games.

"We want them under the supervision of a coach," Ryan said. "The coaches may have more influence than anyone in their lives. The coaches have leverage."

Of the nine fall teams for boys and girls, seven were named New York State Scholar Athlete teams. The success has carried over to the winter, led by Turner, who Ryan said, "runs the model program. He's taken what he does one step further and almost wiped academic problems off the board."


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on December 28, 2006, 05:53:18 PM
Very nice article regarding Troy Turner. You did a nice job Unbearable. Do have to laugh at previous postings as one of the guys mentioned that Jerry Welsh brought in a group of hoodlums to win the 2 National Championships. Troy played the game really hard and really well while at Potsdam.  Since he played so hard, was he not a nice person? Looking at the rosters of the 2 championship teams, I see where many (actually almost all) of the guys are doing very well in life. Who are all these hoodlums????
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Post by: Pat Coleman on December 28, 2006, 09:37:47 PM
Rather than violate the newspaper's copyright, however, you should link to the story.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2006, 04:11:57 PM
Friday tournament action takes Oswego to Virginia for the Christopher Newport Captain's Shootout. Lakers at 5-1 open in an hour vs. 7-1 Greensboro. C. Newport at 5-4 plays 2-8 Fisk of Nashville --- interesting in that Fisk eight days ago beat CN by a point. On Saturday it's Oswego vs. CN, and Fisk vs. Greensboro in rematch of 12/20 when Fisk was 4 pt winner

Cortland at 3-5 plays 4-1 SJ Fisher in 8 p.m. nightcap of York, PA tourney. York at 5-3 vs. 6-2 Susquehanna, PA at 6. Winners, losers Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pride1fan on December 29, 2006, 04:27:03 PM
"Greensboro in rematch of 12/20 when Fisk was 4 pt winner"



Fisk was a 4 point loser.





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2006, 07:58:34 PM
Greensboro Pridesman knows of what he speaks .....69-64 over Fisk a short time ago

Meanwhile, Oswego this evening shaded 85-82 by Gmen. T. Franze 26 pts for Lakers, M. Burridge 18 pts, 11 rebs; E. Robertson 16 pts. OSt 18 turnovers to winning Pride's 6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2006, 10:52:22 PM
Cortland scrappy effort turned back by SJ Fisher 82-76 in opening round of York, PA tourney. Fisher by 39-33 at break but CSt 53-47 with about 13' left. SJF 10-0 run regains balance. Cortland ties at 57 on C. Niehoff ft and eventually holds 68-65 edge on D. Maggiacomo 3pter. Another 10-0 Fisher tear. D. Mueller trey gets reversal at 3:14. Cortland within 78-76 on Maggiacomo `3'. Mueller nets 2 ft.
D. Jutton 27 pts(5x10fg, 4x8 3s), 13x13fts, 5 rebs; Maggiacomo 17 pts(5x10fg, 4x7 3s); Niehoff 16 pts(7x15fg, 6 rebs; P. Oliver 5 rebs, 4 pts. CSt 9x223 to SJF's 11x21. Mueller 19 pts(5x9fg, 5x8 3s); J. Beigel 16 pts((7x11fg), 5 rebs, 4 assts; D. McSweeney 16 pts(6x6fg, 4x4ft), 5 rebs.
Cortland vs. Susquehanna at 1 Sat. York 84-69 opener

Florida-bound Saturday. Posting hereafter for us a ?????. But sure will keep an eye on SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on December 31, 2006, 12:40:57 AM
Brockport looks very good after a long layoff with a 112-63 win vs Dyouville. Brockport lead 100-50 with 9 minutes remaining. Brockport newcomers looked very good as sherod harris the brother of shawn is lightning quick and a good finisher. The frontcourt also got some help in 6'8" cantrel parrish from buffalo grover cleveland high hit for double digits. This kid is long and very athletic and will remind you of brandon mills. He is only listed as a frosh in program so he will make some frosh mistakes. This is just what williams needed in the paint to take some pressure off of him. Time will tell but this team looks pretty darn with all those guards. It looks like the rotation is 13 deep, hopefully everyone can stay happy?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 31, 2006, 12:50:31 AM
Nice win to end the year!  And if Parrish can be compared in anyway this early on to Mills, this means some good things to come

However the January schedule looks like a killer --- St. Lawrence, Hamilton and the Chase Tourney!!  Should be some good competition to measure the team against...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on January 01, 2007, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 29, 2006, 10:52:22 PM
Cortland scrappy effort turned back by SJ Fisher 82-76 in opening round of York, PA tourney. Fisher by 39-33 at break but CSt 53-47 with about 13' left. SJF 10-0 run regains balance. Cortland ties at 57 on C. Niehoff ft and eventually holds 68-65 edge on D. Maggiacomo 3pter. Another 10-0 Fisher tear. D. Mueller trey gets reversal at 3:14. Cortland within 78-76 on Maggiacomo `3'. Mueller nets 2 ft.
D. Jutton 27 pts(5x10fg, 4x8 3s), 13x13fts, 5 rebs; Maggiacomo 17 pts(5x10fg, 4x7 3s); Niehoff 16 pts(7x15fg, 6 rebs; P. Oliver 5 rebs, 4 pts. CSt 9x223 to SJF's 11x21. Mueller 19 pts(5x9fg, 5x8 3s); J. Beigel 16 pts((7x11fg), 5 rebs, 4 assts; D. McSweeney 16 pts(6x6fg, 4x4ft), 5 rebs.
Cortland vs. Susquehanna at 1 Sat. York 84-69 opener

Florida-bound Saturday. Posting hereafter for us a ?????. But sure will keep an eye on SUNYAC

Being a Fisher fan, I was pretty impressed with Cortland. It seems like they are having a rough year this far, but I thiink they could be very good in the future. I thought they found a way to lose rather than getting run out of the gym. I know they were good last year but who did they lose that made them drop off the way they have so far this season.
Was it all Raneiri? or were there other players that made up the nucleus of that team?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2007, 12:21:59 PM
Greetings from Clearwater

Yes, sjfcards, finishing huge concern for Corts. And, yes, Ranieri was key leader along with departed S. Taggart and S. Skrelja. Jutton 27 vs. Fisher was big surprise, particularly 13x13ft. He's basically outside performer because of size, but has been going to hoop a bit more. Hope this team doesn't get discouraged. They could still be SUNYAC factor.

Congrats on winning tourney. Really turned it on vs. York.

Here's hoping we can get back to posting. But Florida does call with sun et al!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on January 02, 2007, 02:34:28 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 02, 2007, 12:21:59 PM
Greetings from Clearwater

Yes, sjfcards, finishing huge concern for Corts. And, yes, Ranieri was key leader along with departed S. Taggart and S. Skrelja. Jutton 27 vs. Fisher was big surprise, particularly 13x13ft. He's basically outside performer because of size, but has been going to hoop a bit more. Hope this team doesn't get discouraged. They could still be SUNYAC factor.

Congrats on winning tourney. Really turned it on vs. York.

Here's hoping we can get back to posting. But Florida does call with sun et al!

Agreed C-state could be a team that no one would want to play come SUNY tourny time...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2007, 05:43:58 PM
Plattsburgh returning to court at this moment in opener of Springfield tourney. Cards at 4-3 tangling with 8-2 Kean prior to host 3-7 Pride meeting 7-3 Colby. Wednesday consi at 3, final at 7:30

From earlier, New Paltz 101-86 victim of Chaminade in Hawaii; Oswego nipped 87-85 at Christopher Newport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2007, 11:38:58 PM
Plattsburgh beaten 67-62 by good Kean outfit in Springfield tourney start. Pburgh ahead 29-26 at half; game even at 50 at 6:44 before Kean moves to fore. J. Dumont 14 pts; A.Williams 14 pts; K. Hunt 12 pts, 10 rebs; T. Gorham 10 rebs, 5 assts. Burgh vs. Colby in Wed. consi

In New Paltz slip to Chaminade, J. Hauser 26 pts(4x7 3s) to give him 1,021 career. A. Foluke-Henderson 22 pts, 5 rebs; M. Hauser 11 pts; M. Irwin 7 assts

In Bport rout of D'Youville, A. Poles 18 pts. Eagles 60-39 half and 100-50 with 9' left. Have 24 stls, 26 assts

In Oswego second straight narrow loss in southland, T. Franze 26 pts;  E.Robertson 21 pts(5x9 3s);M. Burridge 16 pts, 11 rebs; M. Jabbi 11 pts, 16 rebs

In Cortland fall to Susquehanna, D. Maggiacomo 18 pts -- all in first half of 77-60 loss. D. Jutton 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2007, 11:35:26 AM
Certainly doesn't look like a big (or anywhere near) SUNYAC season, at least in comparison to other circuits. Still, once conference play underway next week in earnest it would appear to be a wide open chase. Off all play thus far we will say Brockport might have the upper hand. And a couple of new recruits for second semester underscores that premise. Oswego is right there as well, we believe. Couple of narrow slips over holidays, but even without their ace at the point, Lakers look to be a load. Others stepping up well. And don't dismiss Plattsburgh despite 4-4 mark. Every loss to quality foe -- and not by much. And good case could be made for Geneseo, a veteran crew. Oops, then there's SUNYIT. Talented bunch led by C. Reaves. Just may be No. 1 team. Has that kind of potential. We also take a liking to The Paltz. Current leader Oneonta a pretender for sure, me thinks. Should break from skid Thursday night  home vs. St. Joe's of Vt.

On Wednesday's dance card: Geneseo at Pitt-Bradford for a good test; Fredonia at home gets Houghton; and Pburgh in the Springfield tourney consi at 3 plays 7-4 Colby. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on January 03, 2007, 01:19:19 PM
I have seen a few SUNYAC teams play this year. Geneseo, Cortland, and Brockport...of the teams that I have seen I think Geneseo is the best team out there. Brockport was a close second...I can't imagine many teams in the SUNYAC being better than those two teams. If I was to place a bet, I would put my money on Geneseo to finish first in SUNY and Brockport second by a very small margin.

Obviously I have not seen Potsdam and they can always be a contender...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2007, 05:46:28 PM
Plattsburgh 86, Colby 70
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2007, 11:43:41 PM
Geneseo over Pitt-Bradford 77-57, building on 42-31 halftime edge. S. McDonnell 14 pts(4x7fg, 2x3 3s) in 27'; S. Morton 20 pts(8x15fg), 6 rebs in 33'; B. Bennett 14 pts(7x9fg); T. Kitson 10 pts, 11 rebs; G. Spears 10 pts, 6 assts. Knights 32x57fg; 15 play vs. 7-4 P-B

Fredonia losing streak at 8 in 83-76 fall to Houghton, which takes 44-25 bulge at half. Freds come within 5 vs. 5-5 winners. K. Reichlmayr 23 pts; T. Alassari 14 pts; B.Cooper 12 pts. Freds 25x50fg, 23x34ft. Houghton's L. Mortonson 35 pts(13x19fg, 6x8 3s) and 25 pts 1st half

Pburgh in 35-28 midway control and go on 25-7 run. Holds 69-44 lead with 9' to go. A. Williams 18 pts, 5 assts; all tourney T. Gorham 15 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assts; K. Hunt 13 pts, 7 rebs; J. Dumont 11 pts, 6 rebs. Cards 54% from field and 11x22 3s. Boost record to 5-4 vs. 7-5 Colby
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 04, 2007, 10:33:04 PM
Oneonta returns to winning ways with 67-60 home win over St. Joe's, Vt behind transfer newcomer B. Fisk 20 pts(6x11fg, 5x10 3s). B. Heslin 13 pts, K. Reed 11 pts, 10 rebs; M. Reardon 11 pts; J. Murphy 5 assts. OSt 24x72fg, 9x27 3s, 10x22ft. Up by 18 late in first half and by 16 in second half before Joe's within 4 at 1:34
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2007, 10:48:39 AM
Time for a few SUNYACs to step up if conference wants some respect. Brockport leads the way with pair of difficult tasks (this ain't D'Youville), but at home -- tonight vs. 7-1 Hamilton, Sunday matinee with 9-0 St. Lawrence. Bports getting plenty of love as possible favorite in next week's Chase tourney. Oswego tonight at home vs. good Clarkson and tomorrow hosts SL.

Didn't mean to recently dismiss (or diminish) Potsdam's SUNYAC chances. Only 3-6 though somewhat misleading (losses to Clarkson twice, NYU, Gens, Bport, SL and hot shooting IC). But have to get things going. Could start tonight in Trinity fest. Still, tough one vs. 8-2 Westfield which hasn't played Pdam's type of schedule. That's 8 p.m. tip after 9-1 Trinity vs. 6-3 Framingham.

Also Saturday, Geneseo (looked at as middle of  road Chase pick, though we believe a more serious challenger) tunes up at Elmira (aka D'Youville?), and struggling Cortland draws more trouble at home vs. RPI
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 05, 2007, 04:32:09 PM
As Chucky used to say "I'm Back".  Spent the month of December in San Diego, which I highly recommend.

Daughter was ill in California, and since my wife is a prof, I got the duty.  On the mend now.  Thanks to all, especially ZOLA and crew for their thoughts and prayers.

JDEX - you are right on SUNYAC having to step it up tonite. 

One correction, Potsdam BEAT B'port, coming back from 18 down in the second half to win 98-95 ('port's only loss to date).  Their six losses have been to teams with a combined record of 42-11 (.794) including unbeatens SLU and NYU. 

Potsdam has a lot of freshman and sophomores in the regular rotation, and will be up and down as they develop.  Only 1 player, reserve G Devin Taft is in his third year in the program, 2 first year, 2 JUCO's, 7 sophs.

Real find has been 6-6 post Tim Reinhardt,  grew up in B'port's back yard (Hilton) attended Potsdam, didn't play at first, then walked on after C. Turner and E. Harris graduated, now their leading scorer and rebounder, with 15ppg and 6 rpg despite playing with a mask.

This could be one of those years that SUNYAC feeds on their young, everyone beats everyone else, cluster of teams between 11-5 and 6-10, all enough to dim overall records, and result in only 1 bid for the conference. 

Geneseo should be good, they have size, depth, two former conference ROY's, and like all Geneseo teams, smart kids who are coachable. 

Since I have official duties in the athletic dept these days, I will keep my comments to a minimum except to correct factual errors like this one.

:)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 05, 2007, 09:15:18 PM
Brockport puts on a clinic in the 2nd half and pounds a very good hamilton team 95-75. Bport leads at the half by3,and stretches the lead to 10 early in the 2nd only to see hamilton come back to take a 62-61 lead. Thats when Bport went on a monster of a run and turned this game into a rout at the 5 minute mark. Sherod Harris in only his second game looks like this is his 4th year with his teammates. If i had to guess i would say he had around 20-24 pts and 7 assts? The guards Brockport has are creating alot of problems with defenses. they were getting open look after open look. Bport missed a ton of chip shots and ft's in first half or else this may have got really ugly. This hamilton team was receiving votes in the top 25 and had already beat 1 top 25 team. Does anyone know if the whole sunyac tourney is going to be played on campuses this year? I thought i read that somewhere.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2007, 10:30:17 PM
Brockport 94, Hamilton 75. Eagles 49-46 at half and 68-66 at 9:27 when a 21-0 run settled matters. A pair of key 3's by She. Harris figure. He finishes 18 pts(6x14fg, 4x9 3s), 9 assts. A. Poles 17pts(3x7 3s); D. Maldonado 14 pts(4x6 3s); M. Wilkes 11 pts,  stls. Bport 33x69 fg, 13x29 3s, 40 rebs, 15x25ft. Hams 29x68fg, 8x24 3s, 41 rebs, 9x11ft

Oswego nipped 64-62 at home by Clarkson whose Knights overcome 39-25 half deficit and 21 pt second half hole. Take lead at 2:44 on E. Pickering hoop and for good at 1:34 on B. Linton pts. T.Franze 15 pts for Lakers; D. White 12 pts; E.Robertson 11 pts. Clarkson 8-2, OsSt 5-4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2007, 10:37:47 PM
Potsdam loses 76-71 to Westfield St. at Trinity Tourney. Plays Framingham Sat at 1:30 in consi. Trinity over latter 100-61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2007, 11:52:23 PM
Potsdam down 34-26 midway. Winds up 26x60fg, 5x19 3s, 19 assts to Westfield 29x59fg. S. Mitchell 16 pts(5x9fg, 4x7 3s) in 29'; J. Hall 13 pts(3x5fg, 7x7ft) in 16'; T. Reinhardt 10 pts(4x7fg), 8 rebs, 6 assts; A. Dike 10 pts(5x6 fg)

Bport turns 25 Ham trnvrs into 36 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on January 06, 2007, 12:57:23 AM
A very impressive win for Brockport tonight against a very good Hamilton team. Could it be that Brockport is positioning itself to be the favorite in the SUNYAC Conference?..From what I have seen I would have to think so...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
Geneseo needs 44-15 second half push to stop host Elmira 77-55. Slow starting Knights behnd 40-32 at break before getting it going vs. 1-9 Soaring Eagles. S. Morton 18 pts(6x12fg, 3x5 3s), 5 assts. Nets 14 in final 20'. S. McDonnell 16 pts(5x10fg, 2x5 3s); T. Kitson 12 pts, 7 rebs; B. Bennett 6 assts. Gens 28x60fg and 42-32reb gap. Elms 21x58fg. Knights 6-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2007, 08:25:09 PM
Cortland gets things rolling with 65-48 whipping of guest RPI. Red Dragons up 37-27 at half. Shoot 25x53fg, 10x25 3s led by D. Maggiacomo's 17 pts(6x15fg, 5x14 3s); D. Jutton 13 pts(5x10fg, 3x6 3s) 6 rebs; C. Niehoff 14 pts(5x13fg, 2x3 3s); frosh M. Lewis 10 pts(4x5fg), 5 reb in 23'; E. Nalls 3 assts. Engineers 20x51fg and see record dip to 6-4. Corts, 4-7, without R. Headley 2nd straight game

Potsdam handsome 85-66 winner over Framingham in Trinity tourney consi. Up early 20-8 and 40-22 enroute to 48-35 halftime edge. Foe within 50-44. Pdam widens margin to 77-62 at 6:40. All tourney T. Reinhardt 20 pts, 8 rebs. D. Brown 22 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assts; S.Mitchell 17pts, 5 rebs, 4 assts; J. Hall 10 rebs, 5 assts. Bears 28x63fg, 22x24ft and 54 reb as Fram goes 27x77fg and 8x38 3s. Trinity 77, Westfield 64 for title
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 07, 2007, 10:53:01 AM
Congrats to Bport on another good win against hamilton. Today Bport has another tough game with 10-0 St Lawerence coming to town. A win here should lock up the #1 seed in the chase. Brockport was already loaded at guard and the rich got richer with the arrival of junior sherod harris . It took him all of one game to get into the starting lineup and he has looked awesome. Against a VERY good hamilton team he put up 18 pts 9asst and 4reb and 5 steals. Also the arrival of 6'8" cantrel parish is huge for Bport. He put up 8 pts and 9 reb against hamilton. This was huge for the eagles as brandon williams really needed some help in the paint and can now play more at the4. Stay focused and get the W today Bport, the 1 seed is yours to keep, a loss could send you to the 3 or possibly 4 seed. No one wants to be part of the 4 vs 5 in the 1st round.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 07, 2007, 12:34:08 PM
Oswego falls victim to unbeaten St. Lawrence 80-76 on 18x28 SL second half fg pops. Even at 33 through 20'. OsSt 29x63fg, Saints 30x58 in dealing Lakers fourth straight setback -- all within 4 pts. T. Franze 23 pts(10x15fg; K. Reuter 14 pts(5x6fg, 2x3 3s); E. Robertson 11 pts; M. Jabbi 10 pts; M. Burridge 10 rebs, 6 stls; T. Downing 6 assts

SUNYIT takes Cazenovia 88-81. Early 16 pt control stands at 45-35 at half but just 59-57 with 11:22 left. C. Reaves center stage with 31 pts(10x15fg, 5x8 3s including trio in pullaway mode), 6 assts; C. LaBoard 16 pts(7x18fg), 16 rebs, 6 assts; C. Plante 13 pts(4x6 3s); A.gilkes 12 pts(4x12fg). Cats 30x73fg, 10x21 3s.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 07, 2007, 04:37:49 PM
Bport blows out St. Lawrence by 30.  After picking up Sharod Williams and Cantrel, In my opinion and probably most others (we'll find out after the Chase) but Bport is the best team in the East region.  They do not have many weaknesses.  If they are hitting there jumpers they can beat anyone in the country.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 07, 2007, 04:51:07 PM
As in 102-72 in Bport where hosts never trailed. 52-34 at half. B. Williams 21 pts(7x13fg), 13 reb in 17'; Sherod Harris 21 pts(7x11fg, 3x6 3s), 4assts, 4stls in 28'; A. Poles 19 pts(6x10fg, 5x7 3s) in 22'; M.Wilkes 11 pts, 7 rebs. Eleven Eagles see at least 10'. Bport 34x79fg, 10x28 3s, 24x34ft, outboard Saints 55-37. SL 33 trnvrs to Bport's 25. SL 22x59fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 07, 2007, 05:26:34 PM
I am wondering if Brockport will now start receiving some votes in the top 25 poll... Hamilton was receiving 3 votes and the golden eagles beat them handily, then beating an Undefeated St. Lawrence team... May garner at least some attention. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 07, 2007, 08:52:07 PM
If not, someone's not paying attention
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on January 08, 2007, 12:45:39 AM
to answer an earlier question............cortland lost raineri, skrelja, and taggart.......rainieri was 15 and 6...taggart was 11 and 8 and skrelja was 8 and 7....skrelja and raineri were also very good senior leaders
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 08, 2007, 10:08:52 PM
Fredonia over Hilbert 86-82 at home to snap skid of 8. Devils 29x49fg including 17x26 opening half  as Freds seized 48-35 lead. Up by as many as 21 early, then withstand 3pt Bert assault. K. Saunders (16 pts, 5 assts) and sub T. Alassari (14 pts, 3 stls) clutch free throwing in stretch play. K. Reichlmayr 21 pts(8x11fg), 15 reb; K. Gordon 12 pts(6x8fg). Devils 25x34ft and 41-28 reb advantage. Hilbert 15x30 treys (G. Ufland 9 and 31 pts). Freds 2-8, Hilbert 6-6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2007, 10:22:17 AM
Act II begins tonight. Key conference action. And with so much balance, that'll be the case most of the time

Buff St. invades Cortland. This pair could be vying for eighth and last playoff berth

Potsdam ready to make move? Visits sometimes potent SUNYIT with arguably best talent of all

Plattsburgh at Oswego in test of team looking to take step towards top

Then there's Oneonta's trip to Utica College .....and another dose of reality?!

Brockport as No. 1 seed begins Chase Tourney quest Wednesday vs. 8-Keuka. Geneseo at No. 4 plays 5 Roberts Wesleyan. Bport 33rd with a bullet in current d3 natl poll. Also tomorrow NPaltz at home to Old Westbury

One 3-0 (4-6), Bport 2-1 (8-1), Gen 2-1 (6-3), IT 2-1 (7-4), BS 1-1 (6-4), Pburgh 1-1 (5-4), Osw 1-1 (5-5), Pdam 1-1 (4-7), NP 1-1 (5-4), CSt 0-2 (4-7), Freds 0-3 (1-8)



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2007, 10:32:41 PM
Oswego 75, Plattsburgh 73
Buffalo St. 68, Cortland 53
Potsdam 88, SUNYIT 76
Utica College 67, Oneonta 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2007, 10:50:16 PM
Buff St. breaks 51-51 tie at 5:36 paced by B. Wood's 17 pts(4x10fg, 8x11ft) 6 assts, 3 stls. Bengals make 15x27fg to take 35-25 lead at half. Corts square up and lead 47-43 at 8:11. BS winds up 24x49fg, Dragons mere 16x54fg, 6x21 3s but 15x16ft. D. Maggiacomo 16 pts(4x12fg, 4x8 3s), C.Niehoff 15 pts(5x14fg), 8 rebs, 4 stls; M. Lewis 7 rebs; D. Jutton 7 pts(3x13fg, 1x9 3s). CSt 34-33 reb edge

Oneonta has 29-27 lead at half, loses via UC 22x25 to 10x15ft difference. OSt 24x61fg, UC 20x45. M. Reardon 12 pts(5x8fg), 3 assts, 4 stls, 37' for Dragons; K. Reed 11 pts(4x7fg), 9 rebs; B.Fisk 11 pts(3x7fg); J. Murphy 10 pts, 6 rebs; W. Heslin 1 pt(0x8fg), 8 rebs. UC's J. Lighthall 18 pts, D. Herring 13 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2007, 11:23:41 PM
Oswego ahead 39-33 at half. Lakers 27x52fg, 16x24ft to Pburgh 28x56fg, 9x16ft, 8x21 3s. OSt 31-19 board margin. T. Franze 21 pts(7x13fg, 2x2 3s) 6 rebs, 5 assts, 2 stls; K. Reuter 17 pts(7x11fg, 3x5 3s); M. Burridge 16 pts(6x8fg), 10 rebs; T.Downing 10 pts, 5 assts. A. Williams 20 pts(8x18fg, 2x6 3s) for Cards; A.Miller off bench for 18 pts(7x12fg), 3 assts, 3 stls in 25';T. Gorham 16 pts(7x9fg) 6 reb, 5pf in 39'

Potsdam's T. Reinhardt 22 pts; B. Graney 15 pts, 8 rebs; J. Hall 10  pts, 5 rebs. Pdam 49-42 at intermission and hit 6x8 3s by then. Shoot well over 50% from field. For IT  C. LaBoard 24 pts, 8 rebs; E.Belone 20 pts; C.Reaves 14 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 10, 2007, 10:49:43 PM
Brockport 98, Keuka 58 in Chase
Geneseo 75, Robts Wesleyan 72 2ot in Chase
New Paltz 83, Old Westbury 80
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 10, 2007, 11:27:22 PM
Brockport's Sherod Harris 17 pts(5x6 3s), 5 assts in romp. Eagles land 14 3s. B. Williams 14 pts, 8 rebs; S. Johnston 13 pts;  M. Wilkes 11 pts. Meet Geneseo in Friday semi at RWes

Geneseo's B. Bennett 2ft at 0:04 tie at 59 in reg. Knights up 67-62 in 1st ot but RW ft's at 0:10 pull even at 68. In 2nd ot S. McDonnell hits 2 ft's at 1:19 to put Gens up 73-72 and give McDonnell 1,000th career pt. Bennett hoop at 0:30. RW misses desperation treys. S.Morton 15 pts, 7 assts; Bennett 14 pts;McDonnell 13 pts; G. Spears 11 pts, 12 rebs; T. Kitson 10 pts, 9 rebs

New Paltz forges 37-28 halftime lead but yield edge in second half till A. Foluke Henderson hoop at 8:02 for 58-56 lead. NP 22x26ft to OW 7x17. Hawks 27x59fg, 7x22 3s. J. Hauser 27 pts(8x16fg, 3x7 3s), 8 rebs, 4 assts; Foluke Henderson 23 pts(8x13fg), 7 rebs; T.Cannon12 pts; V.Alvarez 10 pts(4x6fg), M. Irwin 5 assts. OW 6-5

In Oswego narrow win over Pburgh from Tuesday, M. Burridge joins 1,000pt club. Lakers up 74-69 late before A. Miller hoops  tighten matters. Last ditch Pburgh bid bounces off rim

Cortland's R. Headley due back this weekend from broken nose suffered in York tourney. Has missed three games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 10, 2007, 11:46:00 PM
Welcome back Bear. Let the games begin.

Planning on a Brockport - Geneseo final at the Chase on Saturday. While most predictions I've made have been more lethal than an appearance on the cover of Sports Illustrated, these should be fine if the Knights are for real.

If your stuck in the north country for the weekend, Oneonta @ Potsdam will entertain.

Tuesday the 16th, dinner at Canale's and a Brockport v. Oswego dessert, fine evening fare. I haven't seen B'prts latest imports but hope they're as good as advertised. May be the best chance for a tournament-enabled SUNYAC team?

Final 4 tickets went on sale Monday. If you haven't been, go. No matter the teams, great competition, decent venue, not all that far, warm if we're lucky...say no  more.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 11, 2007, 07:11:16 AM
Pretty tough for Bport and geneseo to play sat considering they play friday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 11, 2007, 10:40:55 AM
My bad - misread the Geneseo website. Although, at my age, being a day late isn't all that bad.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 11, 2007, 10:53:31 AM
my prediction on the bport-geneseo game. bport overwhelms geneseo's veteran guards with their pressure and wins by 20. i have never been impressed by these geneseo guards like i was when they had binger, greco, and lemoyne. but, as everyone knows weird things happen when sunyac teams play each other.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on January 11, 2007, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on January 11, 2007, 10:53:31 AM
my prediction on the bport-geneseo game. bport overwhelms geneseo's veteran guards with their pressure and wins by 20. i have never been impressed by these geneseo guards like i was when they had binger, greco, and lemoyne. but, as everyone knows weird things happen when sunyac teams play each other.

I don't know...I tend to think that Geneseo is a team on the rise this year. I do think Brockport will win, but I think it will be close until the last 5 minutes. Brockport appears to be the class of the SUNYAC so they should get it done.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2007, 12:32:16 PM
Would surprise us not to find Bport in Chase final vs. UR. Had them atop SUNYAC from 1st semester showing and has only grown (as in Sherod Harris). See chemistry as only potential hazard. Deep and talented.

Also tonight, NP at Pdam, IT at BS, OsSt at Freds, OnSt at Pburgh

And Saturday in addition to Chase, NP at Pburgh, Corts and Freds, OsSt at BS, OnSt at Pdam

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2007, 10:50:17 PM
Surprise it is! Geneseo 84, Brockport 73

New Paltz 73, Potsdam 61
Buffalo St. 99, SUNYIT 85
Oswego 64, Fredonia 62
Oneonta 58, Plattsburgh 56
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2007, 11:25:41 PM
Geneseo jumps out 28-10 and  has 41-33 margin at half. Knights hike to 14 and Bport never nearer than 9. Gens make 60% fg to Eagles 33% (6x15 3s 1st half, 2x16 after); 40pf on Bport leads to 37x59ft for Gens. T. Kitson 24 pts(9x11fg); S. Morton 16 pts, 5 rebs, 4 blks; G. Spears 11 pts; B.Bennett 10 pts, 9 rebs, 7 assts, 4 stls. Sherod Harris 22 pts for Bport, M. Wilkes 11 pts

Buff St. 36x72fg, 21x28ft. D. Mozelle 23 pts(10x17fg) 9 rebs; B. Wood 18 pts(6x14fg) 8 assts, 3 stls; J. Lawal 15 pts(6x9fg) 14 rebs; c. Guiden 5 assts. BS 53-39 reb gap. IT 34x80fg, 11x31 3s. C. Reaves 25 pts(10x24fg, 2x8 3s) 8 rebs, 6 assts; C. LaBoard 19 pts(8x16fg) 9 rebs, 7 assts, 3 stls; C. Plante 15 (5x11 3s). Bengals 52-46 at half

Oswego 30-22 at the break. T. Franze 18 pts(7x12fg), 5 stls, 3 assts; E. Robertson 16 pts, 8 rebs; D. White 11 pts(4x6fg), 6 rebs. Lakers 21x57fg. Freds own 49-42 board advantage and get 17 pts(7x12fg, 3x7 3s) from T. Alassari who has 6 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls. Devils come from 10 back to 45-41 down at 7'. K. Reichlmayr 10 pts, 12 rebs, 3 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2007, 11:47:32 PM
New Paltz puts Potsdam in 34-28 hole at half, finishes 24x64fg, 23x32ft. T. Cannon 21 pts(7x16fg) 7 rebs; A. Foluke Henderson 17 pts(7x12fg), 7 rebs, 4 stls; J. Hauser 13 pts(4x15fg), 9 rebs; M. Irwin 11 pts, 9 assts, 3 stls. Potsdam 25x61fg, 5x10ft, outboarded 45-39 and 25 trnvrs. D. Brown 18 pts(6x10fg, 4x5 3s), 3 assts in 21'; A. Williams 13 pts; J. Hall 10 pts; B.Siskavich 10 reb in 18'; T. Reinhardt 0 pts, 6 rebs in 28'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2007, 09:33:35 AM
Oneonta keeps top perch with big road win on E. Bratt trey at 0:20. Miserable Pburgh opening half (20%fg) finds Dragons with 28-17 lead. A. Williams has Burgh up 51-49 to put OSt in comeback mode. Bratt 13 pts, B. Fisk 9, R. Morin 9, M. Reardon 9 assts. Williams 15 pts in setback; R. Rider 14 pts, 5 rebs; K. Hunt 12 pts; T. Gorham 8 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 13, 2007, 01:10:18 PM
I dont think the Geneseo win over Bport was that much of a Surprise, I predicted Geneseo to win the SUNYAC this year, they have Solid talented guards with a bunch of solid big men that play very structured basketball.  Yes I think Bport is more talented and was the favorite but I think that Geneseo's strong guard play was exactly what it was going to take to beat an uptempo pressurizing bport D.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2007, 05:03:54 PM
Fisher 85, Brockport 81
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2007, 07:40:05 PM
Vengeful Fisher ahead 44-39 at intermission but falls in 53-49 arrears prior to 3pt Fish flurry while bolting to 66-57 lead. Cards 31x57fg, 11x25 3s keyed by D. Mueller career best 30 pts(10x15fg, 6x10 3s), 4 stls. Bport 32x64fg, 6x17 3s, 23 assts. B. Williams 18 pts(7x13fg) in 22'; Sherod Harris 10 pts, 7 assts; M. Wilkes 5 assts; J. Johnson 10 pts, leading 5 rebs in 12'

Buffalo St. 81, Oswego 76. Bengals by 42-35 at half. Lakers regain lead in second half and rule till 3:15 D. Mozelle hoop. Mozelle 20 pts(9x19fg), 5 rebs; B. Wood 13 pts, 7 assts, 7 rebs; J. Lawal 10 pts(4x5fg). BS 29x65fg, OSt 30x67fg. T. Franze 17 pts(7x18fg), 10 of Lakers' 26trnvrs; M. Burridge 16 pts(8x13fg), 10 rebs; M. Jabbi 13 rebs, 8 pts in 19'; T. Downing 8 assts, 9 pts

Plattsburgh 86, New Paltz 66. Pburgh by 19 in opening period and 35-26 at half. tied with 13:29 left. Cards 33x59fg, 8x17 3s. A. Williams 25 pts(8x13fg, 3x5 3s), 4 assts, 3 stls in 27'; T. Gorham 12 pts(6x7fg), 7 rebs; K. Hunt 12 pts(5x9fg); A. Miller 11 pts, 5 assts. NP 22x67fg led by M. Irwin 15 pts(5x10fg, 4x7 3s); T. Cannon 12 pts; J. Hauser 12 pts; A.Foluke-Henderson 10 pts, 12 reb, 5pf in 21'

Potsdam 62, Oneonta 56. OSt looking to stay unbeaten in league takes 38-28 control at half as Pdam has 11x28fg then and finishes comeback at 22x47. T. Reinhardt 16 pts(7x12fg) in 32' following scoreless Friday; B. Sisavich 14 pts(6x12fg, 2x3 3s) in 23'; A. Dike 7 rebs. Dragons 27x52fg (14x26 1st half), 8x16 3s. W. Heslin 15 pts(6x10fg, 2x4 3s); E. Bratt 14 pts(5x8fg, 4x5 3s); B. Fisk 11 pts; K. Reed 8 pts,11rebs;  8 of OSt. 22 assts; M. Reardon 7 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 13, 2007, 09:58:52 PM
A few more details on Oneonta @ Potsdam.  Oneonta was atop the SUNYAC standings at 4-0.  They extended their lead to 17 (45-28) early in the second half, before Potsdam went on an 11 minute 20-0 run.  Been a long time since I've seen a college team of any kind held scoreless for 11 minutes.  For the last 16 minutes of the game, the Potsdam outscored the Dragons 34-11. 

This is the Bears second huge turnaround against a SUNYAC foe.  In December, they came from 18 down in the second half to defeat Brockport (sans Sherrod Harris and Cantrel).

Nice comeback for this young Potsdam team after a disappointing loss to New Paltz the night before.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2007, 11:03:31 PM
Cortland 74, Fredonia 66. D. Maggiacomo cuts loose for 42 pts on 14x18fg AND 10x12 3s. Adds 2 assts, 3 stls in 37'. Corts down 35-29 at half and 45-36 with 15:26 to go. Go on 27-8 tear featuring Maggiacomo 18 pts. Dragons 25x51fg, 10x19 3s. Soph C. Niehoff 19 pts(7x12fg), co-leading 4 rebs. D. Jutton 4 assts. Freds 27x56fg. K. Reichlmayr 20 pts(9x11fg); A. Smith 14 pts

Rochester 80, Geneseo 53 in Chase final. Over early. Jackets in 39-13 halftime domination. Gens 23x53fg to UR 28x41. Knights T. Kitson (8 pts, 6 reb) and S. Morton (8 pts) all tourney. M. Chmielowiec 19 pts(6x8fg, 3x5 3s) paces UR
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: assassin on January 14, 2007, 10:25:34 AM
Was at Chase final last night and it looked like Geneseo ran out of gas.  No excuse as U of R played great and is a very good team--but I don't think 27 pts. better than Knights.  U of R really benefited from being able to rest starters the night before in the blowout over Fisher whereas Geneseo had a Double OT thriller and a gutsy win over Bport on its road to the final.  This Knights team is very good and has played the last 2 weeks without one of its top 2-3 players--Joe Kling.  They will challenge for the SUNYAC thiis year.  Now it's time for all teams to dig into the league schedule.  The great thing about this league is that anyone can be beat on any night--their are no gimme's.  Buff. State made a nice statement over the weekend that they are a force to be reckoned with and Oswego, Potsdam, Plattsburgh, SUNYIT, are all talented and will challenge Bport and Geneseo all season long.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on January 15, 2007, 04:18:32 PM
U of R is a very good team. I agree not 27 points better than Geneseo, much they are not 29 points better than Fisher. I will say I think that they could win SUNYAC or the Empire 8 this year. Rochester has good big man and at times very good guard play. I would say that Rochester played very well in the Chase, perhaps over even their heads.
Geneseo is a good team this year. I think that they will be in the top 2 or 3 of the SUNYAC, but I do think that Brockport is a better team, and that they will win the league this year.

In the 3 main NY leagues this year I will take Brockport to win the SUNYAC, Fisher to win the E8, and Hamilton to win the Liberty league.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2007, 11:31:58 AM
Three contests on Tuesday card: Fredonia at Geneseo, Brockport at Oswego as chart topper, and co-pacesetting Oneonta at SUNYIT

D. Maggiacomo's 10 3s (on 12 bids) on Saturday a Cortland school record. What's SUNYAC record?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on January 16, 2007, 08:44:33 PM
jdex,

Scouring the SUNYAC record book, good through the 2004-2005 season, the record appeared to be 8.  The record book only has stats from 1985 forward in some categories, but my recollection was that was the season the three-point shot was introduced at all levels.

http://www.sunyac.com/recordbooks/mensrecordbook04-05.pdf (http://www.sunyac.com/recordbooks/mensrecordbook04-05.pdf)

Then, during the 05-06 season, the record was upped to 9.

http://www.sunyac.com/mensbasketball/05-06stats/CONFHILO.HTM (http://www.sunyac.com/mensbasketball/05-06stats/CONFHILO.HTM)

Therefore, it would seem as if the 10 is a SUNYAC record as well.  That is just my completely unofficial opinion.

Hope Florida is treating you well.  A wicked ice storm has left tens of thousands of us in the Capital District without power.  Good to see I'm using my electricity in a completely productive way.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2007, 10:49:39 PM
Oswego 102, Brockport 89
Geneseo 67, Fredonia 51
Oneonta 74, SUNYIT 71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2007, 10:59:26 PM
And the winnahhhhh is ........

SUNYAC board says Oswego .......Bport says Bport ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2007, 11:21:56 PM
Geneseo far from best but gets job done. Leads 27-22 at half despite 6x23fg. Concludes 21x54fg, 22x30ft. G. Spears 14 pts(6x11fg); S.Morton 12 pts, 11 rebs; J. Segarra 8 pts(2x5 3s); B. Bennett 5 assts, 4 stls. Fredonia 15x43fg, 2x18 3s. K. Reichlmayr 12 pts(4x5fg), 12 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2007, 11:41:56 PM
Wishful thinking on Bport part. Oswego prevails at home. Strikes for 62 pts in second half (29ft) to overcome 48-40 Eagles edge at half. E. Robertson 20 pts, T. Downing 16, T. Franze 16, M. Burridge 15, K. Reuter 14. Shawn Harris 22 paces Bport. C. Parrish 14

Oneonta holds 34-31 break lead on B. Fisk trey. IT up 9 in second half before OSt seizes 9 pt lead at 3:40 and holds on. IT last ditch hoop falls short. Fisk 19 pts. For IT E. Belone 21 pts; C. Reaves 15 pts, 9 assts, 1 trnvr in 38'; C. LaBoard 13 pts, 9 rebs, 5 stls; A. Gilkes 13 pts, 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 17, 2007, 12:22:32 AM
Brockport defensive strategy: if it's  moving, foul it; if it's not moving, hit it until it moves and then foul it. I saw the Geneseo box: Brockport whistled for 40 fouls, Geneseo with 59 FT attempts Hardly believed it. Tonight, 'Port whistled for 37 hacks, slaps, grabs, sleeperholds, you name it - they did it, for 68 Laker FTs.

Oswego down 48-40 at the half but Brockport simply would not allow Oswego to lose. The Eagles continued to foul until even the hapless Lakers (38 of 62) made enough FTs to win.

Over the last 2 games Brockport opponents have had a combined 102 charity tosses. Didn't see the Geneseo game but the Eagles earned every one of the whistles tonight, frequently fouling 2 or 3 times in succession, forcing a whistle from a crew that was reluctant to stop this eyesore yet once again.

On the plus side...Kyke Reuter gave the Lakers a nice spark in the second half after a brief but wholly forgetable first half appearance. Tom Downing dropped several seriously deep 3's to lead the Lakers 2nd half rally and Todd Franz shredded 'Ports guards with penetration. Laker frosh Mahamoud Jabbi impressed with solid minutes behind Matt Burridge who was in foul trouble for most of the night.

For the Eagles, . Junior guard Sherod Harris and soph Shawn Harris are great to watch - both can go to the hoop - both can shoot. Seems like senior Dan Rubertone has been around for ever. Never spectacular but really works hard for everything he gets. Cantrel Parrish, another fine looking freshman.

Please, someone from Brockport help me with this...their 57 man rotation is interesting (OK, its only 12). I guess the thinking is that if you have 60 available fouls, use 'em. Is there a grand design I'm missing, a method to the madness? Are these guys undisciplined and clueless or do they believe they can foul their way to a championship?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 17, 2007, 08:50:47 AM
Im with ya Zola, I dont understand it either, but thats how bport has played the last 5 years, just pressure the heck out of ya, give up lay-ups try to force turnovers and outscore you.  Like i said before, if the refs are calling the fouls, if they are hitting their 3's, they win by trading buckets and can beat a lot of teams. However, that strategy is inconsistent and has been in the past, which also means they can get beat by a lot of teams that handle the pressure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2007, 09:57:25 AM
Thanks, Unbearable, for `3' data. McDonnell not quite as prolific (reckless?) as his Geneseo days dwindle. But, then again, he doesn't have to be. More contributors now for Knights. Speaking thereof, McDonnell missing from last night's rather easy win over Fredonia

And, Florida fine. But today sinking to about 70 high after near 80s. Chill setting in, but you north country guys know all about that. Sorry!

Bport website finally owned up to loss.

Great post, Zola. Loved it!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 17, 2007, 10:21:44 AM
Jdex Wakeup temp in the Potsdam 'burb's this morning was -16f.  Wind chill in the high -20's low -30's.  Enjoy basking in the Fla sunshine, you've earned it.

Zola - wonder how different what 'Port is doing vs. the so-called Grinnell system.
They try to launch 3's within 10 secs, and press full-court the whole game.

SUNYAC season proving to be one of those years where there will be a bunch of teams lumped very closely.  Surprised that 'port already has two losses. 

Buff St. could be a sleeper here, they are out of the gate quickly, have talent, and by quirk of schedule are spared from a trip to Potsdam (where they haven't won in several years) this year.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 19, 2007, 03:34:27 PM
To clarify on the Maggiacomo three-point record mentioned above...the SUNYAC record book that's being referenced is for SUNYAC tournament games only. There is no compiled list of records for the SUNYAC that includes regular season games, as far as I know. I don't know, therefore, if Maggiacomo's 10 three-pointers are a league record; I just know that it's a school record.

Fran Elia
Cortland SID
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on January 19, 2007, 04:56:21 PM
Thanks Fran, you're right.

There were many career stats in that record book, so when I scrolled down through the .pdf file I missed the transition to tournament records.  Must have been frostbite on the brain from the ice storm.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2007, 06:21:31 PM
Can probably count on more interesting results tonight when Oswego is at Oneonta, SUNYIT at New Paltz, and Potsdam at Buffalo State. And Cortland is at Geneseo, Plattsburgh at Fredonia

Brockport back on court Saturday at Oneonta joining Pburgh at BS, Geneseo at NP, Oswego at Corts, Pdam at Freds. Sunday finds IT hosting Morrisville

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2007, 10:36:03 PM
Oneonta 68, Oswego 67
Potsdam 94, Buffalo St. 76

SUNYIT 94, New Paltz 83.  IT takes 50-47 lead at half. Cats 34x66fg, 12x27 3s. C. LaBoard 22 pts(8x15fg, 2x6 3s), 10 rebs, 7 assts, 4 stls in 40'; C. Plante 20 pts(6x9 3s) in 26'; C. Reaves 17 pts(6x13fg), 7 assts; A. Gilkes 16 pts(6x11fg); E. Belone 15 pts(6x12fg). For NP it's A. Foluke-Henderson 26 pts(11x15fg), 8 rebs, 4 assts, 3 stls; J. Hauser 31 pts(13x19fg), 8 rebs; M. Hauser 11 pts; M. Irwin 10 assts. Hawks 34x71fg, 24 assts

Geneseo 64, Cortland 61. Red Dragons 32-31 at half. Knights 20x40fg, 21x28ft. T. Kitson 19 pts(7x10fg); S.Morton 6 assts; J. Howe 12 rebs, 8 pts in 24' in reserve role. Corts 22x61fg, 8x34 3s. D.Maggiacomo 18 pts(6x19fg, 4x14 3s); C. Niehoff 18 pts(7x13fg, 2x4 3s), 10 rebs

Plattsburgh 73, Fredonia 64. Pburgh 27x48fg, 8x14 3s. A.Williams 29 pts(9x18fg, 5x9 3s), 5 rebs, 5 assts; K. Hunt 11 pts(5x6fg); T.Gorham 8 rebs. Cards 37-27 at half. Freds K. Reichlmayr 21 pts(9x11fg); J.Kane 16 pts(8x12fg) in 18' off bench; B. Cooper 5 rebs. Devils 28x53fg, 4x7 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2007, 10:58:20 PM
Oneonta's K. Reed jumper wins at 0:07. Dragons fall behind 41-29 at half on Oswego 20-9 run. Oneonta has edge with 5:33 left. Five lead changes, three ties follow. Reed 16 pts(7x13fg, 12 rebs in 26'. Has 4 pf. B. Fisk 14 pts(6x13fg) in 24' off bench. Dragons with 48-32 reb margin, go 27x60fg, 6x16ft. Oswego 24x58fg, 13x25ft. T. Franze 19 pts(8x14fg), 4 assts, 2 stls; E. Robertson 14 pts, 4 assts (his last ditch trey misses); M. Burridge 10 pts(5x8fg); D. White 10 pts

Potsdam hits 32x54fg, 9x18 3s featuring T. Reinhardt 20 pts(7x12fg), 6 assts in 28'; A. Williams 20 pts(6x8fg, 2x4 3s), 5 rebs in 26'; D. Brown 12 pts, 5 assts. Bears 18x30fg in 1st half for 44-34 lead. BS 29x70fg, 1x13 3s, 17x23ft. J. Lawal 16 pts(8x11fg), leading 6 rebs; DJ Nubine Mitchell 12 pts(6x10fg); B.Wood 12 pts(8x8ft). Pdam 36 rebs, 25 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 19, 2007, 11:58:01 PM
So for New Paltz, A.F.H.and John Hauser combined to shoot 24 for 34 (70.6%), but their teammates were a combined 10 for 37 (27%) from the floor.  Jeez, nice depth chart you've got there, Hawks.

I'll be heading over to their new gym tomorrow night (thank goodness they got rid of that Elting dump) to see New Paltz take on a Geneseo squad that has to bus 5 hours downstate right after a tough squeaker win at home against Cortland tonight.  Methinks the Knights are really the best team in this league no matter what smoke and mirrors Oneonta keeps pulling out of its collective rear end to stay in first place.  I'll report back to the board with my thoughts on the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 20, 2007, 01:31:26 AM
CBomb: Hard to tell who relies more on smoke n' mirrors. Oswego turns in another inept performance at the line, 13-25, in their 1 point loss at Oneonta, yet still manage to outscore the Dragons, 8-18, from the stripe. Decent floor game, 27-60, and blowout on the boards give Dragons another win. Looked at Lakers twice this week and saw too much Roberson and not enough Burridge.  Z's had Downing in their sights all night and he seemed bothered. Anyone with clues on Reuter? This kid can play but it's just not happening with any consistency

Meanwhile, heard the Knights needed home zebra help and an obviously horrendous binge of 3-point clangers from Jutton and Maggiacomo, 6-27 combined, to edge the Spanlanders at home. 

Some bias here. Have seen Geneseo a couple fo times and really hate to admit that a team that mediocre just might be the best in the league. The again, have now seen Oneonta twice and it is even more painful to admit that they could be the best. As you know from previous post, was hoping that current additions to B'port might make for something really interesting - but as long as they continue to play in the Bizaro Universe, will continue to keep looking.

Staying close to home tomorrow and heading to Cortland for first look at RDs. Huge game for the Lakers who can ill-afford another loss. If anyone heads to Oneonta, would appreciate their comments.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 20, 2007, 03:56:46 AM
Or -

The youthful Bears have now recorded two straight wins against teams at the top of the standings.

One a night when the homestanding Bengals were looking to celebrate program win #1,000, the Bears kept countering every first half surge before going on a mini-run (15-8 over the last 4:40) to lead at halftime 44-34.  T. Reinhardt had 15 in the first half, and B. Graney, who is playing very well had two huge trey's and logged solid minutes in the post.

The Bears then came out of the locker room on fire and went on a 21-3 run (21 points in 4:40 translates to a 160+ point game pace) to lead by 28 on the road at 15:20 of the second half.  After that it was pretty much garbage time, but Dobbs, mindful of what his troops did to Oneonta last Saturday, kept his head and managed the lead nicely.  Since this year's Bears can shoot FT's, the outcome was never in doubt.  Final margin dropped below 20 only because Buff State made their only three of the night (1x13 at home) on their last possession, and Dobbs then just held the ball at the end of the game.  Bengals drop to 4-2 in the conference and Oneonta is now sitting on a 1.5 game lead over the rest of the tribe.  Reinhardt and frosh Anthony Williams Jr. each had 20 to lead four Bears in doubles.

So we have Potsdam with wins over Brockport, Oneonta, @Buff State, and @SUNYIT.  Losses are by 3 to the aforementioned Blue Knights, and an inexplicable second half walkabout against New Paltz that can only be chalked up to the gods of basketball not smiling that day.

The Bears now have balance, and are getting meaningful minutes from their bench, especially B. Graney and Jehrod Hall who has become a defensive terror and solid role player.  They play two freshman and four sophs in their top 9.

Potsdam must not look past Fredonia, who has been competitive in all but one game this season, and then hosts arch-rival Plattsburgh next Tuesday at J. Welsh in the team's only meeting of the season.

SUNYAC should go down to the wire.  Exactly four weeks left in the regular season.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 20, 2007, 07:10:23 PM
Brockport 60, Oneonta 58

Plattsburgh 90, Buffalo St. 84. Cards 45-36 at 20' mark and hike to 18 early in second half. BS rallies within 2 at 2:32. A. Miller bucket hikes lead 0:10 later and T. Gorham ft's finish job. Pburgh 30x62fg, 9x21 3s. Five starters score double figures. K. Hunt 20 pts(6x12fg), 12 rebs; A. Williams 18 pts(6x16fg, 3x7 3s), 5 assts; T.Gorham 16 pts(5x10fg), 16 rebs, 4 assts; J. Dumont 13 pts (4x6fg -- all 3s), 4 assts; R. Rider 10 pts(4x6fg) in 13'. Buffs 30x69fg, 21x31ft. D. Mozelle 14 pts(6x14fg), 11 rebs; J. Jones 14 pts(5x9fg) off bench; J. Lawal 13 pts(6x7fg), 7 rebs; C.Guiden 5 assts, 4 stls

Fredonia 63, Potsdam 53. Devils in first league win. Their 23-19 halftime lead evaporates but frosh J. Kane hoop at 14:27 regains upper hand at 28-27 and Freds lead thereafter. Go 20x46fg led by T. Alassari 18 pts(5x11fg, 2x5 3s), 7 rebs. K. Reichlmayr 10 pts, 9 rebs; Kane 14 pts(4x5fg) in 18'. Bears mere 18x51fg, 12x23ft. S. Mitchell 15 pts; J. Hall 12 pts. T. Reinhardt 7 pts, 5pf in 30'; B. Siskavich 5pf in 19', 3 pts; D. Brown 4pf (7 pts in 31') along with A. Williams (2 pts in 17')
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 20, 2007, 07:31:53 PM
Brockport comes from 37-19 submission with 20' to go to nip Oneonta. Bport paltry 6x30fg opening half and winds up 20x61, 15x29ft, 46rebs, 27 trnvrs. B. Williams 14 pts(4x12fg), 12 rebs in 27'; Sherod Harris 11 pts(4x15fg, 2x7 3s), 3 stls in leading 29'; A. Poles 10 pts. Dragons 23x62fg (15x32 1st half). W. Heslin 18 pts(6x12fg) in 21'; M. Grimes 11 pts(5x9fg) in 23'; K. Reed 10 pts(4x13fg), 11 rebs, 4 assts. OSt 26 trnvrs (M. Reardon 10 in 38')
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Maxcy Maniac on January 20, 2007, 10:10:10 PM
Potsdam at Fredonia.

Potsdam falls apart at the seams and continues to play down to lower tems and up to better teams.  They have proved they can play by almost putting up 100 points against Buff State on friday.

Fredonia hosted the bears in their old gym while there field house stood idle with just a few students playing basketball.  ???

Any history in their switching courts?  It seems very odd that a coach would change the room and floor surface from game to game   ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 20, 2007, 11:31:48 PM
Geneseo 71, New Paltz 54. Knights move into first place by shaking free from 33-33 halftime knot. Lead 64-44 with 6:10 left. Land 32x62fg. T. Kitson 24 pts(12x14fg); S. Morton 14 pts(6x11fg, 2x3 3s), 7 assts, 4 blks; S. Sciera 13 pts(5x11fg); B. Bennett 9 assts. NP needs comeback to tie at half. Hits 18x57fg overall. M.  Hauser 15 pts(5x14fg, 4x6 3s), 5 rebs; J. Hauser 12 pts; T. Cannon 10 pts(4x13fg); A. Foluke-Henderson 2 pts(1x5fg), 10 rebs

Oswego 56, Cortland 51. Normal Corts play. Lead considerable part of game including 30-22 at half and by 11 on J. Sargent trey. Still up by 8 about 10' from end and by 1 at 3:48. There, E. Roberson hoop give Lakers lead. He nets 18 pts(6x8fg, 4x5 3s) with 7 rebs, 3 assts. T. Franze 10 pts(4x9fg); spare D. White 10 pts(3x3fg), 7 rebs. OSt 21x47fg, 5x15 3s, 9x20ft. Corts 18x57fg, 3x18 3s, 12x14ft. C. Niehoff career best 20 pts(8x19fg), 9 rebs. Lone Dragon scoring in scoring figures
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 20, 2007, 11:45:38 PM
Thoughts from my field trip to the Geneseo-New Paltz game tonight:  This is the second time I've been excited to see that Foluke-Henderson kid in action in his career and the second time I've seen him put up a total nothing performance.  Offensively he did nothing.  John Hauser's an OK ballplayer, probably the only Hawk who did something useful, especially in the second half when they just got nuked.  What a terrible defensive team.  Kitson got all of his points on the same shot, wide open 10 footer from the wing, nobody ever got a hand in his face or anything.  NP gave up layup after layup all night.  Geneseo looks like a solid, well-drilled outfit.  They move the ball very effectively and consistently found the open man.  They don't appear to beat themselves with stupid mistakes; I think they can go far in this league.

New Paltz's new building is tremendous.  Too bad they don't deserve to play there.  Also, pathetic atmosphere tonight.  About 200 fans which was acceptable given that it's a Saturday night and I don't believe school is back in session; but no music played during breaks in the action, the PA announcer didn't say a single word in the second half and when he talked in the first half I couldn't understand a word.  You've got brand new speakers, fellas, I could see 'em hanging there.  Use 'em why dontcha??  I almost fell asleep in the second half when Geneseo went up by 20.  It's like a bright shiny graveyard.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: assassin on January 21, 2007, 04:36:29 PM
Interesting weekend in the SUNYAC.  A number of very dangerous teams in the conference, but not a lot of consistency.  It seems as though Geneseo and Oneonta are the only two that are really playing consistent, quality basketball night in and night out, yet Oneonta still has a losing record.  Zola, I woild have to disagree with your asessment of Geneseo being a very Mediocre team.  They are 11-4 and have been playing for the last month without 2 of their top 8-9 guys in Kling and McDonnell who are nursing injuries, and yet are still getting wins.  They will be very tough to beat when back at full strength.  I still think that anyone can win this conference with the exception of Fredonia.  It's going to come down to who's hot at tourny time.  The team I can't figure out is Potsdam...they have some talent yet are SO unpredicatable.  How do you beat Buff. State by 18 and lose to Fredonia by 10 the next night??   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2007, 06:10:44 PM
SUNYIT 62, Morrisville 54. Cats evidently elsewhere, like looking at NFL playoff game. Tied at 28 at half and trailing 39-31. C. Reaves finally pushes IT to fore at 9:19. A. Gilkes 16 pts, 13 rebs; C. LaBoard 15 pts, 7 rebs; E. Belone 11 pt

Also have become Geneseo convert, particularly with two main cogs sidelined. Yes, it's anyone's guess come tourney time, but three teams won't be there. Fredonia and Cortland could be two, and the third? Or the three? Strap it up, ride's underway!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2007, 11:59:17 AM
Tuesday's ticket:
Geneseo at Buff St., Bport at Corts, Pburgh at Pdam
Outsiders: Oswego hikes to E8 pacesetting Utica, Fredonia home to Morrisville

SUNYACs stack up thusly: Gen 5-1 (11-4), OnSt 6-2 (7-9), OsSt 5-3 (9-7), Bport 3-2 (10-4), Pburgh 4-3 (8-6), Pdam 4-3 (7-9), Buff St 4-3 (9-6), IT 3-4 (9-7), NP 2-5 (7-7), CSt 1-5 (5-10), Fred 1-7 (3-12)

Oswego skipper K. Broderick's take: Looking at (last) weekend, knowing we're going to play the No. 1 team Friday and the No. 10 team Saturday, I knew there would be no difference between the two games and there wasn't. I don't even look at the standings anymore. You know every game is going to be tough because every team has guys who can play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 23, 2007, 07:32:11 PM
A win tonight at cortland would be huge for the port. They would be 4-2 in conference with 5 of the first 6 on the road, that would set them up really nice for the end of the year. A loss tonight would put the in the middle of the pack with lots of work to do. This team after losing 3 in a row found themselves down 21 pts at the 19 min mark at oneonta. They rebounded to win and that was huge but they should not have been in that position. They have not been playing good and the fouls are getting out of control  fisher shot 60ft's and oswego shot 62ft's. Im sure the refs are a little whistle happy but most of the blame goes to the coach and players. Whitmore needs to shorten his bench from about 13 players to 10, and be a little less agressive on the road. The players dont seem to have time to settle into the game and he yanks them. There is no way this team should be down 19 pts to any team at halftime in the sunyac conference. Especially when oneonta played on friday night and bport didnt. I realize that the pressure and run and gun is there style but 39@40 fouls in back to back games should get your attention to shake something up. I still believe they are one of the top 2 teams in sunyac if not the best but they need to start showing it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 23, 2007, 08:34:01 PM
ROCfan:

I've seen everyone, most twice, excluding  Fredonia and Buff State. Ergo, my opinion is, of course, ihformed by anecdotally.

We can do  a game by game analysis and prove once again that you can usually find evidence to support any position you would like, e.g. Geneseo played poorly v. Potsdam and Cortland and still got two wins. Indeed, Potsdam and Cortland were flat, inept, asleep, absent, played with bags over their heads, pick your descriptor of poor...yet the Knights managed to win both by 3. Their current 3 game streak is against teams that are a combined 4-17 in the league and 15-29 overall. Strikes me as a so what.

We can look at Y-T-D stats and  find the Knights shoot well from the field (49%), nothing special from 3 (33%), mediocre from the line (66%), perform poorly on the offensive boards (145), OK on the defensive boards (376), and have a fair Assist/TO ratio (1.1). When you compare their stats to Potsdam, for example, a mediocre 4-3 league, 7-9 overall...47% shooting, 39% from 3, 74% FT, 182 & 387 off and def rebounds respectively, and a similar Assist/TO ratio...Knights numbers look more anemic.

Was not taking a slam at the Knights but rather at the current state of the league. The SUNYAC is, from year to year,  physical and competitive - but, of course, not always for the same reasons. This year the league is competitive more for a bevy of teamd playing inconsistent, mediocre, ball rather that for teams playing consistent, quality ball. Examples:

Oneonta, 6-2 (7-9). Say no more.

Oswego: Plays 1 decent half per game ( down by 8 v Port and down 7 v. Cort) and win both going away.

Potsdam: Puts up huge runs v. Port, Buff State. 25 turnovers v. Fredonia.

We can look for quality wins. Geneseo has a 1 point win over a decent SJF. Sadly, its hard to make a case that any league win is "quality".

I do like bports analysis of his favorites. Will be interesting to see what Whitmore does with this squad, particularly if they can develop a semblance of an inside game.

Well, to end this blah...Many entertaining games to play but few will be between teams playing solid ball worth driving through snow and, as yet, see no one of D3 tournament interest.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 23, 2007, 09:09:44 PM
Zola, Geneseo lost to SJF.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2007, 09:50:45 PM
Brockport 71, Cortland 63. Tied at 63 at 2' mark. Sound familiar. B. Williams 2 ft puts Eagles up. Sherod Harris the finisher

Fredonia 61, Morrisville 44
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2007, 10:14:34 PM
Utica 63, Oswego 62

Geneseo 75, Buffalo St. 66. Knights grab lead late in opening half and extend 34-31 halftime margin to double figures most of second half. BS within 7 late. Gens 28x57fg. No McDonnell or Kling. G. Spears 23 pts(8x12fg), 10 reb, 3 stls; S. Morton 17 pts (6x11fg), 4 assts, 3 stls; J. Howe 12 pts(6x11fg), 11 rebs; T. Kitson 12 pts, 10 rebs; N. Kelley 4 assts. BS 25x63fg. DJ Nubine-Mitchell 17 pts(6x10fg); J. Lawal 13 pts(6x8fg), 9 rebs; B. Wood 12 pts(5x11fg), 4 stls, 6 trnvs; I. Skylark 10 pts in 10'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2007, 10:27:11 PM
Fredonia 19x27ft does in Mville. Devils 18x38fg to M's 16x56fg, 8x14ft. Freds by 26-18 at half. A. Smith 12 pts(4x6fg); T. Alassari 11 pts; B. Cooper 10 pts; K. Reichlmayr 7 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: assassin on January 23, 2007, 11:31:58 PM
Zola, you make some valid points...but I again have to remind you that Geneseo has played almost half of their season without Kling and McDonnell.  I don't know the numbers, but that's taking somewhere around 20pts. out of your backcourt.  Will be interesting to see what happens, when those guys are back in the lineup.  Nice wins tonight for Bport, Geneseo, and Plattsburgh.  This weekend will be huge in helping to sort out the standings.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 23, 2007, 11:44:40 PM
Plattsburgh beats Potsdam by 1 in double OT. Plattsburgh jumps to a double digit lead and Potsdam fights back. Anthony Williams has a huge game for Plattsburgh with 31 points. Potsdam misses a layup with 2 seconds left in the contest. Great effort by both teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2007, 11:46:32 PM
Plattsburgh 89, Potsdam 88, 2ot. A. Williams 31 pts(8x22fg, 4x11 3s) 7 assts, 6stls, 6rebs, 11x14ft in 47'. Scores 21 pts 1st half for Cards, who go 25x31ft to Pdam's 4x7ft. Pburgh 44-38 at half, 72-72 reg. K. Hunt 15 pts(6x13fg), 9 rebs; A.Miller 13 pts, 8 reebs; T.Gorham 13 pts, 11rebs  in 46'. Cards 29x76fg, 42 rebs. Bears 38x74fg, 8x23 3s, 48 rebs. D. Brown 28 pts(11x19fg, 3x8 3s), 4 stls; J. Hall 15 pts(7x10fg), 6 assts, 10 rebs; T. Reinhardt 14 pts(7x10fg), 6 rebs; B. Graney 12 pts(5x9fg), 6 rebs

Oswego hard luck. ANOTHER tight one. Leads at 0:10 on E. Roberson ft's. Lose at 0:02 on soph D. Herring 15 foot jumper for UC. T. Franze 19 pts(9x11fg) for Lakers; K. Reuter 17 pts; Roberson 14 pts(4x6 3s). OSt 25x53fg, UC 26x56. UC 36-27 reb

Brockport comes from 10 back late in first half, builds 43-30 lead before capitulating to Cortland, but right the ship from 63 tie. Sheod Harris 17 pts(5x11fg, 3x6 3s); C. Parrish 12 pts(4x7fg) in 18'. Red Dragons 19x64fg, 9x32 3s. C. Niehoff 18 pts(7x17fg), 7 rebs; J. Miolen as starter 14 pts in 21'; M. Lewis 9 rebs; D. Maggiacomo 0x10fg, 0x7 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 24, 2007, 01:09:13 AM
SUNYAC Massey Ratings prior to games played on 1/23. Listed by Team, Rank, Strength of Schedule (based on 403 population)

Geneseo 63/111
Brockport 94/207
Plattsburg 159/201
Buff State 163/221
Oswego 183/261
Potsdam 238/234
New Paltz 247/296
SUNYIT 250/320
Oneonta 266/273
Cortland 290/226
Fredonia 342/288

Plattsburg (159) beats Potsdam (238) by 1 because Potsdam misses wide open layup within last 4 seconds of 2nd overtime. Well, league games, especially Bears - Cards, are always tough to predict, eh. Cards Williams and Bears Brown put on a show.

In non-league action, Utica (73) buried Oswego (183), as you would expect given their respective ratings, by 1 at home. FYI - Laker's starters Burridge, Downing, Roberson combine for 7-29 from the field. Still, Roberson a solid 4-6 from 3. Reuter (17) big off bench. Laker's 12/17 assists/TO ratio, 9 fewer boards. Bryant with fine 19 and 11 in 35 min for Pioneers.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 24, 2007, 10:00:01 AM
Everyone is knocking Whitmore for playing a bunch of guys. Didn't he do that when they went to the Elite 8 and it was effective. He has always went deep with his rotation with the exception of last year because of injuries and suspensions. To knock Bport for fouling is crazy. The refs always seem to have it out for him and his squad. Just because they are quicker, stronger, and tougher then their opponents they get penalized. It is basically the same idea behind a big center setting a pick on a little guard, the guard falls down and it is automatically a foul even though the big man was there for 3 seconds.

It is pretty obvious that the SUNYAC is down this year. They lost a lot of good players like thebear said. It will get better because there are a lot of good players that are contributing who are freshmen and sophmores.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 24, 2007, 10:13:49 AM
Just read the Plattsburgh-Potsdam box. Wow, it must have a been a great game. It must have come down to two things. The Cardinals went to the line 31 times and made 25 of them while the Bears went to the line 7 times and made 4. Only going to the line 7 times in a double overtime game, I don't know if I've ever seen or heard of that.

Another line is Potsdam's 28 turnovers. Not too many teams can win with 28 turnovers. What was funny about that stat was that they also had 31 assists to their 37 field goals. I don't know who does the stat keeping in the North Country but I highly doubt the Bears had that many assists. I'm sure thebear can confirm or deny that stat.

The Brockport Eagles hold Cortland's leading scorer Dave Maggiocomo scoreless. A big road win for the Eagles. Another solid effort from their second semester transfers Sherod Harris and Cantrel Parrish as they combine for 29 points.

The Knights of Geneseo get three double figure rebounders as Kitson, Spears, and Jeff Howe. Howe has a double double. I think he is their best big man but just doesn't perform consistently. It is interesting that Geneseo only really went 7 deep yesterday. Did they move Kitson to the three because it was only Howe and Sciera that got decent minutes off the bench. Does anyone know why Jay Wingate isn't playing for Buff St. Is he still not 100% from his knee injury.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 24, 2007, 02:41:38 PM
An answer to your question Slickquick is that Plattsbugh's press hurt Potsdam and on the Plattsburgh steals many 2 on1 and 1 on 1 opportunities existed. Unfortunately for Potsdam, a foul was called on 98% of Plattsburgh's layup attempts. I give credit to the Plattsburgh guards as they went in, hurling their bodies at the defense and getting the call. They did a great job of "reading the officiating." Yes, you're right, that is quite a discrepency in F.T. attempts, isn't it?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 24, 2007, 03:47:38 PM
Slick  like you i am a bport fan and live and die with the eagles. To compare this years bench players to the elite 8 teams subs is not comparing apples to apples. That team had 2 or 3 players on there bench that would have started on this years team. A couple that come to mind are charlie croff who played behind alex smith and bob s who played behind medberry. The only player that may have started off this years team is sherod harris, and he would have had to play the 2 with hollis at the pt. I understand what whitmores style is but after 40 pf's in back to back games i think i would back off just a little bit. He hardly ever uses a zone but he did against hamilton around the 9 min mark of the 2nd half and the game tied. The result was like a 20-2 run for bport and game over. I just think he can be very slow and stubborn to change anything when he notices it is not working. I like him as a coach i just wish he would shake things up every so often.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 24, 2007, 03:57:06 PM
slickyquick, I think playing aggressive favors bport, after a while the refs give up on calling the ticky tack fouls and the game turns in bports favor.  To say they dont hack tho is a reach, I played against almost all the bport guards this summer and yes they are very quick but they do hack like crazy and reach almost everytime.  You feel like you are gettin raped.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 24, 2007, 04:22:18 PM
One thing I do remember in the first year Brockport went to the NCAAs, they played Geneseo in the semis and the Knights went to the line like 58 times (might be a little lower but not much), which I still believe a SUNYAC tourney record. So it isn't like that this has just happened. I don't believe that Whitmore tells his team to foul but when you play tough hard nosed D you will foul. If they make the NCAAs, their pressure will cause other teams a lot of problems just like Brockport teams from years past.

Bports, as far as getting 40 personal fouls in back to back games, I don't think you can play any different. I think the players should adjust slightly how they play but if I were Whitmore, I wouldn't tell them back down. One thing I also remember about the Golden Eagles of years past, they would slowly play more in the halfcourt as the season went on. They would grind it out a little more because that is what Geneseo led by Greco, LeMoyne, and Binger and Cortland led by Binger and Williams would force them to.

Another thing about these Golden Eagles is that the refs aren't quite use to seeing them on a consistent basis. They were use to Hollis, Perry, Mateo, and Masters grabbing and clawing their way to get steals. So, it could actually get really scary next year when the team develops even more.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 24, 2007, 04:30:20 PM
Slicky quick - It was a great game except for the last three seconds, when the Bears missed a wide open "bunny" down by a point.  The crowd was ready to explode, & then - well you know the feeling.

Although I've been accused (back when I was keeping stats) of being the most liberal assist giver in history (I kept stats when Mike Deane averaged 10 a game for three years (805 all told in 80 games)), I would question 31 of 37 FG's being assisted.  Damon Brown scored a lot of his points on acrobatic drives into the lane, there were also more than a few breakaways in transition that should have been unassisted.  I'll look at the film when I get a chance.

What was amazing about the foul discrepancy is that neither team really had to foul.  Potsdam put in a 13-2 surge early in the second half that brought the game close and the second half & the OT's were relatively low scoring affairs after that.
Usually that kind of a foul discrepancy is related to one team fouling to put the other team on the line to get the ball back, but that really didn't happen.

Williams & Miller did a good job of initiating contact and getting the fouls called, while Potsdam had a lot of shots at the other end where FT's or "and one's" could have been called, but weren't.

Big win for the Cards, as with the teams only meeting once, gives them the head-to-head tie breaker over Potsdam.

The top 9 teams in this conference are so close that any one of them can win the conference tournament.  It will come down to who's playing well, and people lost to injuries.

As for Wingate, he only played in "garbage time" against Potsdam.  My guess is that he's still not fully recovered.  A sad ending to a player with so much physical talent, he really had NFL-class speed (9.7 100m) in his heyday.

Bears have a big home matchup vs. Oswego on Saturday, Bear Pride night with women, hockey & men all scheduled for Maxcy on Saturday night.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 25, 2007, 08:23:13 PM
Some people are truly confused and marry in January. Will be thinking Oneonta @ Geneseo and Brockport while traveling to NJ for a wedding...my wife's  f!**/&%second  f!**/&% cousin. No justice.

A Fucillo weekend for the Dragons.  My best guess is they lose both, Brockport best shot at a win, and fall back in the pack with the ner-do-wells. Claims of smoke and mirrors justified.

Brockport really needs a Friday win to keep pressure on Geneseo Saturday. You are at home Eagles - time to get the job done.

Will be in Geneseo Tuesday night. Hope to see a full gym without going to SJF.

Enough about the Geneseo MIAs. If Perioli had not been injured we might not be having any of these conversations. The Lakers have had no point, Burridge has been lost without him, yet they are still scary and get one more crack at Geneseo, Port, and Oneonta.

say no more
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on January 26, 2007, 07:56:46 AM
good last point zola. can't dwell on what you don't have and we all know that shoulda woulda coulda's don't win basketball games.. lakers sure need him this year more than any..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 26, 2007, 11:42:38 AM
Brockport has not played a full 40 minute game since there win vs st lawerence. I fully expect them to come out at home tonight and light up oneonta. Around the 10 min mark of the second half this game should be over. This team is just to good to not play a full game in the last month. You cant even count there chase tourney game against keuka. With that said 4-2 in conf with 5 of the first 6 being on the road is pretty darn good. Even though they are not playing good they have held down the ship. Look for a nice run of W's out of the eagles with all yhese home games coming up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2007, 07:40:07 PM
Not much scouting needed for Friday's fare. Four games are rematches from just last Saturday: Oneonta at Bport, BS at Pburgh, Corts at Oswego, NP at Geneseo. Also, Freds visit IT.

Saturday docket also includes pairing from last week: Freds at Pburgh. Also slated NP at Bkport, Oneonta at Geneseo, Oswego at Pdam, BS at IT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on January 26, 2007, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: zola on January 25, 2007, 08:23:13 PM

A Fucillo weekend for the Dragons.  My best guess is they lose both, Brockport best shot at a win, and fall back in the pack with the ner-do-wells. Claims of smoke and mirrors justified.


Big time props to zola for use of one of cstate's fav commercials. +k to you


IT'S HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 26, 2007, 10:13:31 PM
Brockport took oneonta out behind the wood shed tonight. Brockport goes up 12 in the first half and ends up with an 8 point halftime lead. The second half is all Bport, i left with 1 min left and bport was up 100-69. Sherod harris had a monster game i would guess around 25 pts. Cantrel parish also had a big game with around 18pts 12 reb?. Brockport completes the sweep of oneonta which always is nice for tie break scenarios. Good job eagles NP is on deck for tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2007, 10:16:59 PM
Topsy turvy???

New Paltz 75, hosting Geneseo 71 .....go figure. No Geneseo travel weariness here. NP 35-32 at half despite Knights 14x26fg over 20'. NP 25x51fg, 8x16 3s, 17x32ft (Gen 6x11ft). J. Hauser 21 pts(7x10fg, 3x5 3s), 5 rebs; J. Sugure 13 pts(4x6fg, 3x4 3s); T. Cannon 12 pts, 5 stls; A. Foluke-Henderson 12 pts(5x10fg), 6 rebs, 5 stls; M. Irwin 10 pts, 8 assts, 3 of Hawks 16 stls. Outboarded 40-22. Gens S. Morton 28 pts(10x17fg, 5x10 3s), 7 rebs, 7 assts, 8 of team's 24 trnvrs to NP 14; J. Howe 18 pts(9x10fg), 11 rebs, 5 assts; G. Spears 10 pts(5x12fg), 9 rebs. Knights 30x56fg

Plattsburgh 78, Buffalo St. 66
SUNYIT 72, Fredonia 56
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 26, 2007, 10:22:59 PM
Now that is weird.  Last week I'd have said (and probably most of the other what felt like 12 people in attendance would have agreed) that New Paltz didn't belong on the same floor as Geneseo and now they beat them on the road.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2007, 10:27:54 PM
Brockport 103, Oneonta 71
Oswego 82, Cortland 64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2007, 11:26:05 PM
Oswego 42-29 at half. T.Franze 17 pts; E.Roberson 14 pts; K. Reuter 14 pts; T.Downing 11 pts; M. Burridge 10 pts. Corts C. Niehoff 17 pts, 6 rebs; D. Maggiacomo 11 pts, 5 rebs

IT's A. Gilkes 22 pts(9x12fg), 10 rebs; C. LaBoard 16 pts(6x11fg), 7 rebs, 4 assts, 2 stls; C. Reaves 11 pts, 6 stls, 4 assts; E. Belone 10 pts. Shoots 28x56fg to Freds 24x60. Devils T. Alassari 19 pts(5x13 3s), 4 stls; K. Reichlmayr 17 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2007, 11:39:15 PM
Brockport in charge, 46-37 at half and answers 61-51 Oneonta approach at 12:07 with 14-2 spurt to launch clinching  manuevers. Sherod Harris 29 pts, 7 stls; C. parrish 16 pts, 6 rebs; B. Williams 14 pts, 6 rebs; A. Poles 12 pts. in 14'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: assassin on January 26, 2007, 11:58:13 PM
Geneseo loses tight one tonight against a hot shooting New Paltz team  74-71.  That being said, Zola and Coles, your points about woulda, coulda, shoulda are true but...tonight Geneseo plays without starting PG Bennett (foot??), SG-McDonnell (Knee), SG-Kling, and lost giant Sciera with an apparent arm injury.  That's 4 of your top 7 in minutes and points.  That's pretty tough to overcome no matter how talented you are.  35ppg and plenty of other intangibles out of lineup.  WIll be interesting to see how they bounce back against a solid Oneonta team coming off a blowout to BPort.  Who knows who will be in the lineup?  Bport looks to be getting back in sync as do Oswego and Plattsburgh.  Tomorrows games could really shake the top up.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2007, 09:24:25 AM
Plattsburgh's T. Gorham 20 pts, 13 rebs; K. hunt 15 pts, 19 REBS; A. Miller 16 pts(7x9fg), 4 stls; A. Williams 11 pts, 6 assts. Cards shoot over 50% from field, BS 37%. Pburgh 47-34 reb. I. Skylark 16 pts for Bengals; B. Wood 14 pts, 6 assts; DJ Nubine-Mitchell 11 pts; D. Mozelle 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2007, 07:30:45 PM
Broxkport 109, New Paltz 81. Second straight big game for Eagles. Off to 15-4 lead and extend to 55-41 at half. twas 73-62 at 11' prior to 23-4 Bport settlement. Hit 38x65fg, 9x14 3s, 24x29ft with 41reb, 22assts, 10 blks, 13 stls. NINETEEN Eagles play. B. Williams 17 pts(7x13fg), 10 rebs; Shawn Harris 14 pts; Sherod Harris 14 pts(5x7fg), 4 assts in 17'; S. Johnston 12 pts(4x5fg) in 13'. NP A. Foluke-Henderson 31 pts(11x18fg), 6 rebs; T. Cannon 14 pts; J. Hauser 12 pts

Oneonta 72, Geneseo 49. Ailing Gens! Oneonta 49-24 at half. Shoots 23x43fg, 11x22 3s in all. B. Fisk 31 pts(7x10 3s) in 22'; E. Bratt 14 pts(5x7fg). Knights 15x42fg, 2x12 3s. Within 11 in second half. S. Morton 11 pts; G. Spears 11 pts; J. Howe 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2007, 09:00:26 PM
Plattsburgh 69, Fredonia 55. Cards win 5th straight behind A. Williams 19 pts, 5 assts, 4 stls; J. Dumont 11 pts; T. Gorham 11 pts, 11 rebs. Freds K. Reichlmayr 16 pts(7x11fg); K. Saunders 11 pts(3x4 3s); K. Gordon 9 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2007, 10:31:50 PM
Potsdam 83, Oswego 72: Bears land 19x33fg in opening half and 44-42 edge. Wind up 32x58fg, 10x17 3s, 43-34 board upsmanship. T.  Reinhardt 16 pts(7x9fg); B. Graney 15 pts(6x13fg), 5 reb, 4 stls in 26'; D. Brown 14 pts(5x5fg, 2x2 3s); J. Hall 8 assts; A. Williams 9 pts, 6 assts; B. Siskavich 11 pts, 11 rebs. Lakers 28x67fg (16x32 1st half). E. Roberson 25 pts(11x17fg, 3x7 3s), 7 rebs; M. Burridge 12 pts, 6 rebs; T. Downing 11 pts, 7 assts, 4 stls; K. Reuter 11 pts; T. Franze 5 pts(2x7fg), 4pf in 34'

SUNYIT 84, Buffalo St. 80
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2007, 11:29:47 PM
IT races to 49-31 halftime lead in 20x31fg (7x14 3s) display over 20'. Cats 33x63fg, 8x19 3s in all. E. Belone 22 pts(8x12fg); C. LaBoard 19 pts(7x12fg), 8 assts, 4 blks in 40'; C. Reaves 15 pts(6x14fg), 4 assts, 2 stls; A. Gilkes 10 pts, 5pf in 23'. BS 33x79fg. D. Mozelle 28 pts(11x19fg); I. Skylark 16 pts(7x12fg); J. Lawal 11 pts, 9 rebs; B. Wood 2 pts(1x9fg) in 23'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sports 101 on January 28, 2007, 07:06:53 PM
I think alot of people are counting suny it out of it again this year
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 28, 2007, 07:37:02 PM
I don't think you can count out SUNYIT at all. The only thing with them is their coaching. Can Grimmer keep control them like Murphy did or will the players control their own fate.

I still don't know if we can count out Plattsburgh either. They have SUNYAC experience unlike any other team in the tourney. Though they don't have Gibbs-Smith they still have everyone else back with the addition of Khylan Hunt who is a very good player in his own right.

I think the front runner has to be Brockport right now though. They are really starting to play well and have enough good players that other teams just can't focus on one guy.

As everyone knows in the SUNYAC, anything could happen and I'm sure it will...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 28, 2007, 08:03:15 PM
Brockport also finishes up with 5 of there last 8 at home. After there next 2 road games at geneseo and at fredonia the finish up with 5 of 6 at tuttle north where they are lighting teams up. What is the deal with sunyac tourney this year, i know first round is on campus but the schedule also says final 4 on campus?? How do they determine who hosts and i would think on such late notice some gyms would already be spoken for?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2007, 09:21:21 PM
Highest remaining seed hosts semis/final. Would assume each SUNYAC school aware of that and has facilities available 2/23-24

Also see by Pburgh website Gibbs-Smith just signed pro contract with Philippean Pro League
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 29, 2007, 01:01:40 AM
One day in Jersey and the league goes wild.

Consideration to ROCfan. You know the season is not going as planned when you have team highlight film running on Monday night episodes of ER.

Wicked Eagles weekend. Deliver coup de grace to the Knights this Tuesday? Will be there rooting for the crutched and bandaged Knights to avoid a train wreck.

Plattsburg with 5 straight. Good eye jdex. Anyone else paying attention?

Bears recover from a crushing loss at home to the Cards on Tuesday with a sweet win at home over the Lakers. Lights out shooting.

Stick a regular season fork in IT. At Plattsburg Tuesday for their 5th loss (last time I  called a game correctly was 1986 – but take this to the bank).

If not for Port @ Geneseo would make the short (??) drive to New Paltz and catch their game with Cortland. Have enjoyed watching them both this year. Both more competitive than their records indicate. Interesting to watch Spanbauer rebuild although this year has not been his best effort. Can comment more if anyone interested...otherwise not. New Paltz Coach P is sharp, young guy doing a nice job. Which brings me to the topic for the Latest Rant of The Week.

Now that the SUNYAC has finally abandoned the Aud as the tourney venue, years after it was abandoned by SUNYAC fans, perhaps the league brain trust might reconsider another of it's more deluded decisions and once again include the top 10 schools (if not the top 11 – yes, that would mean everyone) in the tournament. We are half way through the season; maybe Buff State stumbles and New Paltz climbs one spot – but that's the extent of suspense as to who is in and who is not. I expect the Buffs to finish 7-10 and that is the best NP can finish given their schedule, while 5-11 or 6-9 is more likely.

What I miss – what the league does not provide – is an opportunity for a clear, yet competitive underdog to excel in the tournament. Stuff happens, boys and girls, that makes for interesting basketball. When the decision was made several years ago to truncate the tournament it was not made with the support of the student reps to the "advisory" council. Where are the advocates of inclusion? Much can change late in the season. Where are the advocates for giving teams who have worked hard all year one last chance at the brass ring? It seem odd that a league that takes ever so much pride in the old saw that on any given night...blah, blah, blah...has a system of tie breakers in place to exclude teams from their tournament that tie for 8th place with identical won-loss records.

Now that the league has, at least for the short run, opted to bring tournament games out to people who actually care, perhaps they could also, once again, include more or  all of the teams that matter.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 29, 2007, 01:52:55 AM
No parity? Whoa, not so fast my friend.

The number four and number six seeds played in the SUNYAC championship game last year.

SUYNYIT, the fourth seed, knocked off top seeded and two-loss Cortland in the semifinals. In the other semifinal, the sixth seed, Plattsburgh, beat the number two seed, Oswego.

Plattsburgh then crushed SUNYIT the next day to win the championship. They very well could have advanced into the second round of the NCAA tournament if not for some missed foul shots late against Hamilton.

The Cardinals were 8-8 after the regular season and started their upset parade by defeating Brockport State in the opening round.

That sounds like parity to me my friend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 29, 2007, 02:33:35 PM
Dear John,

You conveniently, or purposefully,  missed the point of the post. The post was not in the least about parity - but about inclusion; or, in the case of 27% of the league's basketball teams, exclusion from tournament play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2007, 02:36:58 PM
Zola,
TSpan must be chugging an extra BLite these nights. Very, very confounding team. Hasn't shot the ball anywhere near as expected. Still, with defense has managed to be competitive nearly every time out. Still doesn't finish strong. A take-charge entity among the missing, though 6-4 soph C. Niehoff has blossomed. Frosh 6-6 Mike Lewis coming. Junior J. Miolen provides flash and dash. Maggiacomo from 42 to zip, which says it all about his standstill shooting-failure to create abilities. Jutton (school career leader in made 3) MIA most nights, along with Jankiewicz. Headley apparently bothered by broken nose. Could still be building next winter, especially in backcourt

This far into the season and Span's still looking for right combinations. Lot of hands, little consistency.

Nice upcoming Corts schedule. Put on the miles tomorrow to New Paltz. Next week make week night journey to Potsdam. NP's Dougie Pasquerella a TSpan protege. Expected him to do well this winter. We shall see.

Anyone remember early days of SUNYAC when all eight members gathered at single site (Cortland packed 'em in at old Moffett Center) for tourney. Four games each of three days. Great environment.

Think Johnny Mac can be excused, judging from hour of his post. Got your drift, Z.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 29, 2007, 02:56:05 PM
I admit I did miss the jist of the post.

I disagree that all the teams should be allowed in the post-season tournament. Eight's more than enough as it is in an eleven team league. You don't want to reward someone with a post-season berth by going 1-13 or whatever it is in the league.

The tournament's already spread out enough between three days of games, I can't see them adding a fourth, which in essence, would be play-in games.

When I first started covering the SUNYAC, I remember three days worth of games all coming at the decrepid Aud (men and women) and how draining it was for everyone, players, coaches, fans, SIDs, broadcasters. At least now, the tournament's more spread out with the days off in between the first round and semi-finals.

The final few spots give the teams in the lower tier something to play for. While they'd be playing for seeding in an eleven-team format, it's not the same as not making the playoffs. I think it would be watering down the tournament competition and lowering the league standards.

That's how all the SUNYAC tournaments are, not everyone makes it. In baseball, there's eight teams, and only four make the conference tournament - three days of endless baseball. In hockey, there's eight teams and six make it. There's two play-in games, then you have your final four. The two worst teams are left out.

Why reward mediocrity and poor play?

I don't want to come off like an @$$hole, but not everyone should be in the conference tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on January 29, 2007, 05:15:42 PM
I'm sure this will put me in the minority, but I liked the 1980's 4-team tournament that rotated the championship between campus sites of East #1 (usually Potsdam or Albany) and West #1 (usually Buffalo State or Brockport).  It made for a great weekend, with thousands of fans.  I thought going to the Tuesday/ Friday/ Saturday, eight-team format cheapened it a bit.  I've been to the Aud in Utica almost every year, and I think it is pathetic.  High school games draw more than the SUNYAC championship does.  Players should have the ability to close their collegiate careers in front of many fans, not empty seats. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sports 101 on January 29, 2007, 07:32:07 PM
Zola,

I sorry to say but i think your wrong about suny it and plattsburg outcome.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 29, 2007, 07:45:10 PM
SUNYIT Schedule for last year shows them losing SUNYAC finals to Pburgh 94-73.  Since the game was played in Utica, and this site has already documented that Murph practiced at the Aud all week before the tournament, sounds like the Cats got whupped at home or close to it.

Most large conferences have at least eight spots in the conference tournament.  Agree that campus sites make more sense unless there is a truly spectacular venue. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2007, 08:00:24 PM
Oh but for twin divisions again. But guess what we have now is better than the BIG East lineup that you have to take both shoes off to finish counting

Suppose locales of SUNYAC institutions prevents such a 6-5 setup now. Morrisville the 12th?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 29, 2007, 10:24:35 PM
Tis the plan for '07-08.  Play home & home within 6 team division, play 3 home 3 away vs. all teams in opposite division.
Still yields a 16 game schedule. Top 4 in each division qualify for playoffs.

Will try to get tenative lineup of Divisions. 

Obvious teams:

East:

NP
Oneonta
Plattsburgh
Potsdam

West
Fredonia
Buffalo
Geneseo
Brockport

TBD

Corts
Oswego
SUNYIT
Morrisville

If Corts & Oswego both to West, that Division would be loaded in most years, largest schools, most urban schools, both phys ed schools.

May have details tom'w



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on January 29, 2007, 10:55:42 PM
Bear -- that's very interesting news.  As a Potsdam fan, you've got to be thrilled.  As an objective observer and being desirous of fair distribution of teams you've got to be appalled.

Potsdam or Plattsburgh would win a basketball division with NP, Oneonta, SUNYIT, and Morrisville every year.  And you could assume that one deserving member of Geneseo, Brockport, Buff State, Cortland, and Oswego would miss the tourney almost every season, while Morrisville or New Paltz might sneak in. 

Nothing against those schools, but like you alluded to -- because of their nature they'll never be SUNYAC basketball powerhouses. 

We'll have to wait for the official word, but if they truly split the league up geographically it will certainly irk some folks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 30, 2007, 01:39:01 AM
What other way is there to do it but geographically?  Since they'd probably use this format for all SUNYAC sports where there are at least 9-10 teams, balancing it out for men's basketball might create an overload in baseball or lacrosse or women's soccer or whatever.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on January 30, 2007, 09:18:01 AM
Well, of course it's geographically.  The question is how strictly they follow it.  You could put Morrisville and SUNYIT in the "west", and place Cortland and Oswego in the "east", which is what the Bear was alluding to.

Any drive Morrisville and SUNYIT would have to make to Buff State or Fredonia still wouldn't be as long as the trips Potsdam/Plattsburgh and New Paltz have to make to see each other.

And because of the dominance of the urban/phys ed schools in virtually all SUNYAC athletics, the same argument that applies to basketball applies to baseball, soccer, lacrosse and the rest.

There's a reason you see Cortland and Brockport in every SUNYAC sport's postseason tourney.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 30, 2007, 11:57:15 AM
They use the geographic split for volleyball, where there's the same glut of teams as basketball.

East
Cortland, New Paltz, Oneonta, Plattsburgh, Potsdam, SUNYIT

West
Brockport, Geneseo, Fredonia, Oswego, Buffalo State

My guess would be Morrisville goes in the East and Cortland moves to the west. Though, as people have already pointed out, that's an absolutely terrible basketball division that Potsdam and Plattsburgh would easily dominate.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on January 30, 2007, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: John McGraw on January 30, 2007, 11:57:15 AM
They use the geographic split for volleyball, where there's the same glut of teams as basketball.

East
Cortland, New Paltz, Oneonta, Plattsburgh, Potsdam, SUNYIT

West
Brockport, Geneseo, Fredonia, Oswego, Buffalo State

My guess would be Morrisville goes in the East and Cortland moves to the west. Though, as people have already pointed out, that's an absolutely terrible basketball division that Potsdam and Plattsburgh would easily dominate.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I agree with you, John. However, think of the other sports, too. The West would be unreal for soccer with Brockport, Geneseo and Cortland all in the same division. If I remember correctly, that tourney only has four teams; if they took two from each division, it would probably be the case that the 3rd place team in the West would be better than 1st place team in the East. That's how it goes sometimes, I guess.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2007, 01:44:35 PM
Tuesday tussles take high-falutin' Brockport to woozy Geneseo, SUNYIT to Plattsburgh, Buffalo St. to Fredonia, Cortland to New Paltz. Oneonta home vs. Ithaca.

Earlier indicated Corts next week in Pdam for second midweek trip in a row. Actually that's two weeks away. Corts entertain Pdam and Pburgh this weekend
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 30, 2007, 01:49:52 PM
One way to get over the difference in the strengths various schools have in different sports AND still divide the divisions on geographic areas so that teams travel is balanced... would be to get out of the box where an even number of teams from each division qualify for the tournament.

i.e. based on the soccer example just given...  Take the top team from each division and the next best records no matter what division the teams are from.  With this, based on the soccer example, one team from the east... and three from the west...

Best teams get in the tournament... if you have 6 teasm in, you could do the same thing with either the top one or two from each division and then take the next best teams until the tournament field is filled.

That would help with the different schools being stronger in different sports...

Also, Geneseo seems to be in the running every year for the Commisioners cup... they aren't a PE school but they seem to complete for the cup annually.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2007, 02:19:49 PM
Max,
Don't know about best-records-after-champs theory. Remember, you have unbalanced schedules. A team with a better record would be playing more games vs. bad teams from second rate division. That's if you play home and home in your division, and once against each of other division teams.

Also, am unsure of the phys ed mentality. Being a Cortland loyalist, see how it should and has influenced sports teams. But other SUNYAC members with other majors have certainly held their own. Coaches for sure have a lot to do with that. Their interest, desire, willingness to stay and build a program. Think if you check out successful programs through the years you'll find that type of leadership.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on January 30, 2007, 02:33:36 PM
Both you guys make good points.  If I'm allowed to continue to clarify -- some schools in the SUNYAC (New Paltz and Morrisville, for example) are simply not going to compete with some other schools (Cortland and Brockport) athletically, year in and year out, because of the academic and geographic nature of those institutions. 

I don't think there's going to be much disagreement with that.

The other schools that do well athletically have their own unique attributes that help them get kids with talent there (Geneseo's strong academics and unique programs within the SUNY system, for example).

Anyway, the point originally was pretty simple -- a sports division that contains New Paltz, Morrisville, and Oneonta (as well as SUNYIT) is going to be a lot weaker than one that contains Cortland, Brockport, Geneseo, and Oswego -- across the board, in all sports.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on January 30, 2007, 03:29:40 PM
This doesn't necessarily mean that all sports are going to be split into divisions. Because, not all the schools sponsor the exact same sports.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 30, 2007, 04:30:16 PM
Link to Morrisville D-III announcement is here

http://www.morrisville.edu/Athletics/NCAA.aspx

It appears from this that they won't be an official conference member for '07-08.

They participate in

Field Hockey
M & W Soccer
Volleyball
Ice Hockey
M&W Hoops
M&W Swimming & Diving
M&W Lax
W SB

and

Football

Also Oneonta M. Soccer is dropping down from D-I, and will likely be a D-III soccer power in future years.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 30, 2007, 04:57:33 PM
The SUNYAC is going to have a tough time figuring out the conference situation. Maybe Mr. Damore will retire before this all happens so he doesn't have to deal with potential fiasco.

As far as teams competing, I think some of it has to do with coaching, facilities, and location. I think that New Paltz can compete within the SUNYAC conference, their volleyball teams have because they recruit hard and get the right people. They now have a new facility. Plus, they are a little over an hour from NYC. If you think about, Potsdam and Plattsburgh's rosters are littered with players from NYC. You would think that NP could snatch some good players from that area. And don't tell me the lure of Canada is helping Potsdam and Plattsburgh recruit. It's really cold up there.

Now, don't get me wrong here, Brockport and Cortland have an advantage because they are phys. ed schools. That is a big draw because a lot of athletes want to be teachers and/or coaches. But why couldn't NP be like Geneseo. They stress academics and still excel on athletics. Geneseo would be a great place if it wasn't for a that terrible floor that use for basketball. I know New Paltz isn't that great of a town but what SUNY school has a great town to go with it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2007, 10:39:45 PM
Brockport 82, Geneseo 70. Eagles out to 19-7 lead. Knights rally via 11-0 tear. Bport to 42-39 half in sharpshooting period by both. Gens within 53-49 before 12-0 Port run. Bport 29x52fg, 8x18 3s. Shawn Harris 14 pts(5x10fg); C. Parrish 13 pts(5x6fg), 5 pf in 27'; M. Wilkes 13 pts(3x5fg); B. Williams 11 pts(4x8fg), 6 reb; D. Maldonado 11 pts off bench(4x6fg); Sherod Harrris 9 pts, 5 assts, 3 stls in team leading 29'. Knights 22x42fg, 6x12 3s, 20x23ft. Returning J. Kling 17 pts(8x8ft); T.Kitson 13 pts; S. Morton 12 pts, 6 rebs, 6 assts. Gens 26 trnvrs

Oneonta 68, Ithaca 62. Dragons lead practically all the way. By 12 in first half but small numbers thereafter including 28-27 half. OSt 23x53fg, 6x15 3s. E. Bratt 15 pts(3x5fg, 2x4 3s), 7x8ft, 3 assts, 4 stls; W. heslin 13 pts(4x8fg); K. Reed 12 pts, 6 rebs; M. Reardon 12 pts(5x7fg), 3 stls; J. Murphy 9 rebs. IC 23x67fg. S. Burton 25pts(9x15fg); S. Leahy 10 pts(4x14fg)

Cortland 73, New Paltz 70 ot
Fredonia 78, Buffalo St. 75, ot
Plattsburgh 91, SUNYIT 76


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2007, 11:19:59 PM
Plattsburgh's seventh in a row featuring A. Williams 21 pts, 12 assts;T. Gorham 14 pts, 13 rebs; K. Hunt 13 pts, 10 rebs; A.Miller 16 pts; J. Dumont 5 assts. For IT twas C. Reaves 24 pts, 13 rebs; C. LaBoard 24 pts; A. Gilkes 8 rebs. Cards 52-38 reb

Cortland's D. Maggiacomo steals inbound throw and sinks jumper at 0:01 of reg -- 59 all. NP forges 63-59 lead prior to 9-0 CSt run and advantage at 0:35 of ot. C. Niehoff free throw. Hawks miss trey at end. Corts 35-30 at intermission. Shoot 25x76fg, 5x22 3s and get game on 18x23ft to NP 10x21ft. Just 8 Dragon trnvrs. Maggiacomo 15 pts off bench. D. Jutton 15 pts(5x12fg), 4 assts; M. Lewis huge with 13 pts, 15 REB in 33'; C. Niehoff 12 pts(4x17fg); R. Headley 10 pts.
NP outboarded 54-45. A. Foluke-Henderson 21 pts, 12 rebs, 4 assts; J. Hauser 19 pts, 9 reb; M. Irwin 4 assts. NP 28x60fg

Fredonia comes from 19 back. First lead on K. Reichlmayr hoop starting ot. Freds 13 down with 4:34 left in reg. 13-0 run gets 67 knot on T. Alassari ft at 0:15. J. Kane 22 pts(8x11fg) in 24' as reserve; Reichlmayr 20 pts, 7 rebs; Alassari 12 pts, 5 assts, 5 stls. Freds 23x52fg, 22x27ft. BS 38-25 lead at half. Bengals 28x62fg, 13x18ft. D. Mozelle 13 pts. BS left thirsting for program's 1000th win
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 31, 2007, 01:22:47 AM
Just back from Geneseo. jdex, as usual, thanks lots of pertinent stats. However, the defining stat tonight was turnovers: 18 for Port - almost excusable for a team that relies on a lot of transition - again, almost; 28 for the Knights.

Exciting first half, beyond-belief-pathetic 2nd.  A dark and stormy night with unforced turnover, after unforced turnover....you get the point. Not many defensive gems in this mess. The Z's were no small part of the problem: called a rash of walks on everything that moved for a 4-5 minute span; then called more carries over the next 4-5 minutes than I've seen year-to-date; then called nothing at all for a while. Sherod Harris (he and his brother are worth the price of admission - well, anywhere except at 6-bucks-a-game Geneseo) spent more time in conference with the Z's than with Coach W. Especially liked the arm around the shoulder move pose.

Knights down 11 with 5:30 remaining and my ever-the-optimist sister commented that it was still a 4 possession game. She paused for a moment and continued, well, that presupposes that they (Geneseo) will actually take 4 shots before the game is over. By the 2:30 mark, they had managed to get one to the rim.

Terrific scoring balance from the Eagles.

Ah well, expected more from this game, but sometimes mediocrity does get rewarded.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 31, 2007, 01:16:59 PM
Two big wins for Brockport basketball last night...

I think that the realingment discussion is full of all kinds of pitfalls and great ideas.  I also think that it could be done on sport by sport basis, and unless a sport has 10 or more teams in it stay in one division, and do some type of balance scheduling.

If Morrisville drops out, that will really drop a wrench into the mix... as 11 is one of the toughest numbers to schedule.

On another thread:
The schools are all strong in different sports... so every school can have its day.  I think New paltz has improved over the years, but not sure it will match the tradition of success that Geneseo has shown.

And anohter one:
Oneonta will be a D-III soccer power for several years.  What prompted the change in classification.


AND it is cold everywhere in NY at this time of year... not just Potsdam and Plattsburgh!  brrrrr...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2007, 02:15:29 PM
While somewhat off topic, here's the memo from the Oneonta president regarding reclassification.

Somewhat tough to be the lone ranger I would think.

http://www.oneonta.edu/academics/athletics/MSOCCER/donovanmemo.pdf



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2007, 05:48:19 PM
Oneonta came down to III slate last fall after having pretty fair run in I ranks for about 15 seasons. Red Dragons were still SUNYAC soccer in late 80s. Of course, neighbor Hartwick is I in city housing National Soccer Hall of Fame. Both schools were grandfathered to I when NCAA required members declare affiliation to one classification in all sports. A few were allowed to stay I, with other sports III, such as Hobart lacrosse, Hopkins lacrosse, Clarkson pucks, SL pucks and the like. OSt returning to III soccer should heighten SUNYAC boot play
As release from 11/05 pointed out, financial considerations (as in scholarships) certainly was driving factor

Hoops tonight: NP at Baruch
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Post by: jdex on January 31, 2007, 11:31:13 PM
New Paltz holds on at Baruch for 65-64 win. Deja vu alll over again? Not quite. Unlike previous night when NP saw late lead slip away at home to Cortland, NP saw 65-60 edge at 1:04 dwindle but ..... Baruch misses at horn. Hawks 38-33 at half. Connect on 23x51fg. A. Foluke-Henderson 17 pts(8x12fg) to reach career 1,000. Adds 7 rebs; T. Cannon 16 pts(6x11fg), 12 rebs, 5 stls, 4 assts; J. Hauser 11 pts, 5 rebs.

Corts D. Jutton in Tuesday win surpassed 1,000 career pts
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Post by: zola on February 01, 2007, 02:59:49 PM
Dandy weekend to be in Cortland. Every Potsdam game this season is a surprise - which of the multiple personality Bears shows up for this one? Cortland's Mike Lewis is one of the better SUNYAC frosh and worth a look. Bears Damon Brown can impress on the offensive end when bears remember to give him some minutes.

Ski Greek Peak Saturday morning. New snow and a toddy or two. Brilliant!

Plattsburg for the afternoon finale. Cards should be fresh - no Friday game - and motivated. Without another shot at Port, no need to look past anyone; Curles need to continue to win out for a shot at the top. Don't expect Dragons to make it easy.

Common sense puts the Dragon's on an 0-2 weekend - but they have put out good efforts all season, and when the Bears decide to lose, no one can stop them.

Eagles go 2-0; at Fredonia Friday; at home v. Oswego Saturday. Lakers desparate for a win, but without a point - what's the point? Geneseo should be smart enough for Saturday win. Weekend upset: Oneonta has too much fun with an open Friday and stumbles at NP.

Was in Geneseo's "new" basketball gym for first time Tuesday. Great looking floor, excellent lighting, scoreboards, sound.... Downside: Hosted bigger Super Bowl parties than this facility holds, but at $6 a ticket - seating size not an issue during the season.






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 01, 2007, 03:25:15 PM
Did Geneseo renovate that old gym that was in the back of the facility? That floor, I think, would be much better for fans and players a like. Ask any opposing SUNYAC team and they hate going to the terrible floors at Fredonia and Geneseo's old one. I think with the smaller capacity it makes it more of a high school gym, but it gives the Knights a home court advantage, where the fans are closer.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 01, 2007, 07:39:23 PM
Have shifted to Bradenton area. Posting a ????? We shall see
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2007, 05:35:44 PM
Only two games to fry on Friday fish day. Bport and Pdam have road hooks baited for Freds and Corts, respectively.

Saturday tier I tilt has Oswego at 'Port. Oneonta big date at NP, while Gens and IT rumble in Utica (or is it NY Mills). Streaking Pburgh is at Corts
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Post by: jdex on February 02, 2007, 09:45:14 PM
Cortland 89, Potsdam 74.  D. Jutton 28 pts, D. Maggiacomo 20. Red Dragons land 14 threes. D. Brown paces Bears
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2007, 09:57:10 PM
Cortland on fire from a distance. Sinks 14x29 3s and 29x54fg overall with 17x18ft display. D. Jutton 28 pts, 5 rebs; D. Maggiacomo 21 pts; C. Niehoff 13 pts, 5 rebs; J. Miolen 9 pts; P. Oliver 8 pts, 4 rebs; M. Lewis 6 pts, 7 rebs. Potsdam 24x58fg, 7x22 3s, 19x29ft. D.Brown 20 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assts; B. Graney 12 pts;T. Reinhardt 10 pts;B. Siskavich 10 pts, 5 rebs
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Post by: jdex on February 02, 2007, 10:05:26 PM
Brockport routs host Fredonia 74-51. Making 16x26 shots, Eagles soar to 43-17 halftime bulge. Make 27x46fg, half of 16 treys. Sherod harris 14 pts(5x7 3s) 3 assts, 3 stls in 23'; C. Parrish 13 pts(5x6fg) 6 rebs in 20'; J. Johnson 12 pts(5x7 3s) in 13'; Shawn Harris 5 assts, 3 stls. Freds 19x54fg. K. Reichlmayr 10 pts(4x8fg) 8 rebs, 5 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 02, 2007, 11:58:32 PM
Weather in Cortland was terrible. Potsdam was worse. Only 11 traveled; point guard Scott Mitchell wasn't one of them (illness) and sorely missed. As already noted, torrid shooting night for the Dragons. Great to see Cort's frosh Mike Lewis get big minutes and play solid along with Niehoff (soph). Careful Bears, opportunity to finish the season with 9 - 10 losses is available. No comments on any individual Bear. Lots of minutes from almost all in attendance; ergo, lots of blame to go around. (S. Dobbs might consider shortening bench to save several from further embarassment. A cheap shot? Perhaps. Accurate? Absolutely. This team is not 9 - 10 deep and pretendng it is...). Check the box for gruesome details. Cards remain hope of the north.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 03, 2007, 09:10:42 AM
Z,
Sorry to hear Cortland climate a tad unsettled (not really since we're deep in the heart of Florida -- deep enough to miss tragic central FL scene). Hope you can reach slopes of the Peak for some downhill action (Pdam imitation?) and pint or two. Should you get a chance take in nearby Hollenbeck's Cider Mill. Outstanding cider, pies, fudge, etc. Bruce H. a jolly good chap

Thanks for pointing out Mitchell absence. Dragons will have handful in Pburghers. But should Corts light it up again, who knows. Don't know  what story is with Paul Oliver, rawboned 6-6, 250 lb frosh. Hasn't played of late till Friday. He and Lewis certainly give future hope. Oliver also a football TE
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Post by: bports on February 03, 2007, 11:26:51 AM
After winning 5 straight sunyac games  Bport has put a little distance between them and the pack. I realize its only 1 game but they also hold the tie breaker with the 3 teams behind them. Brockport now has the luxury of finishing up with 5 of there last 6 games at HOME. The only roady is to sunyit. With that said i realize sunyac is always very unpredictable but this is setting up nice for the eagles. Today is an important game against oswego, the eagles are out to avenge an earlier loss to the lakers. The lakers have the luxury of not playing in the last week and the port was on the road at fredonia last night. Last time these 2 played i think the port was whistled for like 40 pf's. The lakers shot something like 60ft's? I dont expect that to happen this time and i expect bport to pull away in the 2nd half i will go with 91-76 Bport!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 03, 2007, 02:27:06 PM
jdex: Good to hear primary poster is safe and well. Actually CNY weather wasn't unsettled at all. Snow settled into drifts. Automobiles, small dogs, and children settled into snow. Should reappear in 60 - 90 days. Thanks for the tip on Hollenbeck's.

bports: Sounds reasonable. Would appreciate feedback on today's game. Drama remaining in reg season is positional - particularly who gets 8th and final spot.

Game time.
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Post by: jdex on February 03, 2007, 06:20:40 PM
Plattsburgh 62, Cortland 55. Big performances from K. Hunt (23 pts on 9x11fg) and A. Williams (21 pts on 7x15fg, 3x8 3s, 4 assts, 2 stls) for Cards in 8th straight W. Corts most of first half till Hunt layup at 0:01 provided 25-24 edge. Game tied at 39 midway thru second half. Pburgh seizes lead and holds tight in limited single figures. Cards 23x49fg, 11x15ft. Corts WITH 46-26 BOARD MARGIN, but in reversal from previous night only 23x68fg AND 5x24 3s. J. Dumont 6 assts, T. Gorham 10 pts(4x7fg) and 8 rebs for Cards. CSt's J. Miolen 15 pts(6x12fg, 2x4 3) in 22' starting backcourt role. M. Lewis 11 pts(5x10fg), 12 rebs inc 7 offense as Corts have 23 `O' reb. D. Jutton 0x6 3s, D. Maggiacomo 2x8 3s

Oneonta 75, New Paltz 57

Would have to say Corts, NP and Freds looking more and more  like short straw guys. Can beat each other but not much else -- unless Corts light it up like vs. Pdam on Friday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 03, 2007, 11:04:52 PM
I guess i will take my pat on the back, Bport 91 oswego 76 is the final. See my post from 11am this morning LOL. Does anyone want any inside info on the super bowl? I will post tomorrows score in the afternoon. Back to a serious note Bport leads big the entire way. Bport goes up 45-28 at the half, oswego cuts it to 8 and then Bport goes on another late run. Game starts an hour late after a two hour blizzard. Refs were no where to be seen and they finally showed up. This makes 7 straight sunyac wins for the port with 4 of the last 5 at home. This was a good win playing a good oswego team that didnt have to play last night. Next up is buff st tues night, good work eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 03, 2007, 11:51:12 PM
Bport's C. Parrish 29 pts(7x10fg, 14x15ft), 8 rebs; B. Williams 16 pts(7x12fg), 11 rebs; M. Wilkes 13 pts(4x6fg); A. Poles 12 pts; Shawn Harris 7 assts; Sherod Harris 4 assts, 3 stls. Eagles 27x55fg, 7x16 3s, 40 reb, 30x35ft. Oswego 27x67fg, 19x28ft, 3x16 3s, 36 rebs. M. Burridge 23 pts(9x14fg), 8 rebs, 4pf in 24'; T. Franze 17 pts(7x14fg), 8 rebs, 4pf in 32'

SUNYIT 70, Geneseo 63. IT 17x31fg 1st half enroute to 44-28 lead. Cats 23x57fg, 10x25 3s, 14x20ft. Only 6pf. Gens 7x10ft. E. Belone 17 pts(6x11fg); A. Gilkes 14 pts, 10 rebs; C. Plante 13 pts(4x10 3s); C. LaBoard 14 pts, 6 rebs, 4 assts, 4 stls; C. Reaves 12 pts, 7 assts, 5 stls, 8 trnvs. Gen 26x55fg, 4x19 3s. T.Kitson 24 pts(11x17fg), 8 rebs in 27'; G. Spears 10 pts off bench(4x6fg); S. Morton 6 assts; S. McDonnell 4 assts, 0pts(0x4fg) in 18' bench duty

Oneonta 14-0 lead before NP connects. 39-18 at half. Dragons 25x57fg, 21x33ft. M. Reardon 17 pts(7x9fg); W. Heslin 9 rebs, 2 assts, 4 blks; E. Bratt 12 pts, 3 assts; K. Reed 11 pts(5x9fg); J. Murphy 10 pts(4x6fg). NP minus A. Foluke-Henderson. M. Hauser 12 pts(all 3s second half); J. Sugrue 12 pts(5x10fg); J. Hauser 10 pts; L. Bertrum 9 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 04, 2007, 12:31:12 PM
Man i knew cantrel parish had a good game but 29 pts for a frosh. This kid is going to be very very good!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 04, 2007, 02:44:46 PM
bports: Will be going to the Turningstone this week. Please choose any 5 numbers from 00 - 36 and send them along. Will play $10 on each - 1 roulette spin.

After unsuccessfully trying to "will" a win for NP, you understand why I would preferto  play your numbers rather than my own.

Parish impressed when I say him at Oswego and continues to settle in. Will be making a Brockport and Geneseo visit this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 06, 2007, 09:47:24 PM
Cortland 59, Oneonta 55
Brockport 94, Buffalo St. 67
New Paltz 91, Morrisville 61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 06, 2007, 09:57:00 PM
Brockport pretty much has there way with buff st. Eagles play a sloppy first 10 minutes then go on a run and lead at the half by either 14 or 15. Brockport comes out in the second half a little sloppy then extends lead to 25. I think it was 94-67 final, just like index said. Sherod harris had another huge game with 23 pts 6 assts. Bwilliams and c parish with 16 and 15 respectively. This was the 8th straight win in sunyac for the eagles and will still play 3 of last 4 at home. Next up is home against potsdam and dont think the eagles will forget blowing that 18 pt lead at potsdam. That was also without two of there current starters 2nd semester additions harris and parish.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 06, 2007, 10:17:51 PM
Cortland keeps playoff bid in motion by sinking Oneonta. Clutch free throwing in stretch by D. Jutton. CSt 30-24 at half. Shoots 19x44fg, 9x17 3s. C. Niehoff 15 pts, 8 rebs; Jutton 13 pts(4x8fg); D. Maggiacomo 13 pts(4x8fg, 4x6 3s). OSt 14x46fg, 7x24 3s, 20x23ft. W. Heslin 18 pts(11x13ft); B. Fish 13 pts(4x9fg, 3x8 3s); E. Bratt 11 pts(4x9fg, 3x7 3s

NP 42-29 half. A. Foluke-Henderson 19 pts(8x11fg), 8 rebs; M. Hauser 15 pts(5x7 3);M. Irwin 4 assts, 4 stls; L. Bertram 10 rebs. 32x53fg, 12x20 3s, 15x23ft. Mville 17x60fg. 4-16 record

Plattsburgh 86, Middlebury 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 06, 2007, 10:29:15 PM
SUNYIT 90, Potsdam 79
Fredonia at Thiel from Mon., ppd.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 07, 2007, 12:00:35 AM
Once again Potsdam proves its the best 10 minute team in the league...Once again Potsdam proves its the worst 10 minute team in the league.

Best first half aspect for the Bears - the well done SUNY Potsdam promo pieces(T-W televised). The worst - well everything: 13 turnovers (Bears give the no-look pass  new meaning); no boards; shooting (what shooting? started 0-9 from 3); down 20 at the half - and, oh yea, this thing was televised.

Second half - Scott Mitchell goes nuts; several Bears remember to play defense...for a while; more than 1 guy boxes out on the glass, for a while; cut a 21 pt deficit to 4 over 10 minute span; then, crash and burn and lose by 11.

Anyone see Cortland's win?

Friday's slate is looking great. Billy games in Geneseo, Buff, and the Port.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 07, 2007, 09:56:29 AM
IT's C. Reaves 27 pts(11x12fg, 3x4 3s, 8 reb, 4 asst, 4 st in 38'; C. LaBoard 15 pts(. 11x13ft), 8 reb, 5 assts, 2 stl in 40'; E. Belone 12 pts(5x10fg); C. Plante 11 pts(3x103s); A. Edwards 11 pts(4x5fg) in 18' spare duty; A. Gilkes 9 rebs, 8 pts. Unloads at 31x62fg clip(19x36 1st half), 8x24 3s. CHECK OUT ft: IT 20x25, Pdam 3x5. Bears D. Brown 21 pts(8x16fg), 3 assts; S. Mitchell 20 pts(7x14fg, 6x12 3s); B. Siskavich 10 pts(5x7fg); J. Hall 10 pts(5x6fg). Mitchell 18 pts 2nd half on 6x8 3s. Bears down 49-29 at half but shoot 20x38fg 2nd half, 33x66 overall, 10x31 3s

Plattsburgh's A. Williams 29 pts(11x24fg, 4x7 3s), 7 rebs, 8 assts as Cards win 9th straight heading into Friday's game at Geneseo, whose Knights tonight tangle with Oswego. T. Gorham 13 pts, 13 rebs, 5 blks; K. Hunt 12 pts. Pburgh 41-28 at half. Sinks 33x70fg, 9x20 3s. Middlebury (13-9) has 27x74fg effort

Buff St's 7th straight setback includes D. Mozelle 16 pts, 7 rebs; J.Lawal 14 pts, 6 rebs, 4 stls; B.Wood 10 pts. Bport 43-30 reb advantage
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 07, 2007, 01:51:59 PM
Just got done looking at the SUNYIT-Potsdam box. IT only went 6 deep, 2 minutes from someone doesn't count in my book. Potsdam doesn't play Reinhardt in the second half and Alvin Dike doesn't play. Did these guys get hurt because they were both getting good minutes at the beginning of the year and now they aren't getting much. Any word from the injury front?

Both Brockport and Plattsburgh seem to be pulling away from the pack. It should definitely be an interesting matchup if they play each other in the SUNYACs. We shall see. It looks like Whitmore is back to his old ways playing 47 different guys while most teams are shortening their bench at this point. The team this team plays together the scarier that could be come SUNYAC and NCAA time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on February 07, 2007, 02:12:38 PM
Both Tim Reinhart and Alvin Dike are battling this tough flu virus that is pounding northern NY right now. SUNYIT was much quicker than Potsdam last night. Free throw line proved to be the big difference, again. Potsdam has to take the ball to the hole as that is what is being called this year. Any Potsdam players listening????
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Post by: sports 101 on February 07, 2007, 03:28:53 PM
To keep it real IT went 7 deep watch the game at 7 tonight on time warner channel no excuses where the flu came about but any way i guess they were  camera shy and to say bport and plattsbugh are running away with it  save it cortland was  running away with it last year what happened.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 07, 2007, 10:58:54 PM
Oswego 67, Geneseo 60. Lakers out to 21-8 lead, 28-19 half. Knight close to 37-33 at 11:39. OSt 8-0 run follows to take command. K. Reuter off bench for 16 pts(4x6fg, 3x4 3s) in 26'; M. Burridge 14 pts(6x8fg), 6 rebs; T. Franze 12 pts(5x9fg), 2 assts, 2 stls. Hit 22x45fg, 4x15 3s, 19x34ft. Gens 23x50fg, 12x17ft, 2x9 3s. S. McDonnell 24 pts(8x14fg); T. Kitson 10 pts, 7 rebs; S. Morton 10 pts, 5 rebs, 4 assts, 5 stls; G. Spears 0 pts, 4 rebs in 25'. Knights lose 5th in a row
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 08, 2007, 10:05:33 AM
Brockport and Plattsburgh are clearly the two best teams in the league. There is an outside chance that a team like SUNYIT make another run like they did last year but I except both the Golden Eagles and the Cardinals to meet for the league championship. Both teams are well coached and both have postseason experience. The only postseason experience Grimmer has coaching is watching the SUNYAC awards ceremony in Utica.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2007, 11:30:31 AM
Sure has that look heading to stretch. If things ended today Bport in hosting role throughout. Eagles, minus solid semester pickups, won at the Burgh by 2 on 12/1 in only meeting. ITers sure have potential. Really like LaBoard.

See Cortland in vital outing Friday at Buffs. They're tied for eighth, with sliding BS sked edge -- Corts, NP, Freds all at home and closing at Oswego. Corts tough road literally -- at BS, Pdam, Port and finishing home vs. Freds. Dragons soph Niehoff, frosh Lewis have made big headway. Missing 6-8 jr Sargent and capt. Headley of late

And what the heck is up with Geneseo? Returning personnel ......and has lost 5 straight!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 08, 2007, 03:26:12 PM
Direct quote from 'port website

The Golden Eagles are 17-4 overall and 16-4 in region games and are currently ranked 2nd in the East Region behind St. Lawrence University. The Golden Eagles beat St. Lawrence in early January 102-72 in Tuttle North Gymnasium at Brockport.

Still don't understand how SLU can be ranked ahead of 'port, particularly when 'port beat SLU by 30?

'port has won 8 in a row, 5 of last 6 recent wins of the "dumptruck" variety.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 08, 2007, 03:44:01 PM
The bear i am with you on that one im not really sure how st lawrence is ahead of bport. I saw that game that bport steam rolled st lawrence and it got pretty ugly for the visitors. I would be ok with someone like the u of r ahead of the port because they play such a tough schedule but not st lawrence. Brockport has been on a roll ever since whitmore put parish in the starting lineup. Brockport is only 1 game ahead of platts but they  hold the tiebreak over them, with only 4 games left it will be pretty tough for them to pass bport in the standings. Brockport finishes up with 3 of there 4 at home so i dont expect a melt down.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: b4the3isme on February 09, 2007, 09:38:17 AM
My first inclination was to support SLU with their better record but upon closer inspection I too agree.  SLU doesn't have a signature win.  Couple of OK wins over Middlebury and over Vassar the second time around.  I just think that Bport has yet to be forgiven for that miserable stretch of 3 losses to Gen State, SJF and Oswego.  I too agree that Bport is better than SLU but the SUNYAC seems down to me this year as a whole with a lot of teams hovering around .500. The only 2 teams that seem to be making a push are the port and platt so the weakness of the league may be figuring in too.  I will say that I truly think that Rochester and NYU are the best teams in the state with Utica and bport and SLU and Hamilton after them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2007, 04:26:46 PM
Friday's games send Pburgh to Geneseo, Pdam to Bport, Corts to Buff St, IT to Oneonta, and NP to Oswego if the Paltz sled makes it

Saturday has Oneonta trying to make it to snowbound Oswego, Pdam at Geneseo, NP at BS, and IT at Fredonia

SUNYAC stacks up ........Bport 10-2(17-4), Pburgh 9-3(14-6), Oneonta 8-4(10-11), Oswego 7-5(11-10), IT 7-5(13-8), Geneseo 6-6(12-9), Pdam 5-6(8-12), BS 4-8(9-11), CSt 4-8(8-13), NP 3-8(10-10), Freds 2-10(5-15)

Anyone have any guess re league's best player? A real chore this season, yes? A. Williams of Pburgh, C. Reaves or C. LaBoard of IT, T. Franze of Oswego, D. Brown, others??????? A. F. H. of NP a first teamer it would seem.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2007, 10:13:06 PM
Buffalo St. 72, Cortland 69. Bengals quit losing ways. Overcome 33-30 half deficit. Corts 4 up at 5:14. D. Mozelle gives BS lead for good at 2:04. B. Wood 5x6ft down stretch. BS 25x47fg, 8x15 3s, 14x19ft. DJ Nubine-Mitchell 23 pts(8x12fg, 4x7 3s); B. Wood 22 pts(6x10fg, 4x5 3s) 4 assts, 7 trnvrs; C. Guiden 8 assts. CSt 23x58fg, 5x21 3s, 18x24ft. M. Lewis 13 pts(3x6fg) 7 reb; J. Miolen 13 pts(5x12fg) 4 assts; C. Niehoff 12 pts(3x10fg); P. Oliver 12 pts(5x7fg); D. Jutton 5 pts(2x8fg). Holds 34-29reb edge

Brockport 92, Potsdam 75. Eagles 56 pt second half dispatches Bears, who lead 41-36 at break. Pot 36x72fg, 9x15ft, 11x27 3s. Sherod Harris 23 pts(8x16fg), 5x9 3s); Shawn Harris 21 pts(9x13fg), 2x4 3s); C. Parrish 17 pts(6x9fg) in 23'; D. Maldonado 12 pts(4x5 3s). 20 trnvrs. Pdam 24x61fg, 18x23ft, 9x17 3s. d. Brown 16 pts(5x15fg, 2x5 3s); B. Graney 15 pts(6x13fg); A. Williams 11 pts(3x5fg); T. Reinhardt 11 pts(3x7fg)

SUNYIT 79, Oneonta 74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2007, 10:34:20 PM
Geneseo 80, Plattsburgh74. Knights end 5 game skid and Pburgh's 9 game unbeaten tear. Shoot 15x28fg 1st half for 39-30 lead. Cards comeback takes 8 pt lead midway thru 2nd half before S. McDonnell, S. Sciera, J. Howe right Gens. Pull ahead about 6' from finish. Go 27x51fg, 2x5 3s, 24x35ft paced by Sciera 21 pts(7x7fg, 7x11ft) 8 rebs, 4pf in 20'; McDonnell 18 pts(5x8fg, 2x2 3s) 5 assts; T. Kitson 10 pts(5x9fg) 6 rebs, 4 stls; G. Spears 10 pts(5x10fg). Burgh 26x58fg, 9x32 3s, 13x18ft. A. Williams 18 pts(6x17fg, 1x11 3s) 7 assts, 7 trnvrs, 4pf in 35'; K. Hunt 17 pts(6x8fg) 7 rebs, 3 stls; T. Gorham 9 pts, 8 rebs, 5pf in 26'. No Siskavich

Oswego 92, New Paltz 87
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 09, 2007, 10:48:23 PM
Many to be considered for leagues best player but for my $$ it is Sherod Harris. Brockport wins its 9th straight sunyac game tonight and pretty much have locked up home court advantage throughout. They have a 2 game lead with 3 to go and own tie breakers over just about everyone.  Sherod harris goes for 23 pts tonight and brother shawn has 21 pts 7 reb and 7 assts. Good work GOLDEN EAGLES!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2007, 10:55:43 PM
IT shoots down 43-38 Oneonta edge at intermission. C. LaBoard 31 pts(10x16fg, 2x5 3s, 9x10ft) 13 rebs, 2 assts, 3 stls; C. Reaves 15 pts(7x18fg, 0x6 3s) 3 assts, 5 stls; A. Edwards 11 pts(3x3fg, 1x1 3, 4x4ft) 4 assts in 25' reserve role; E. Belone 10 pts(3x12fg) 8 rebs. Cats 28x64fg, 8x27 3s, 15x20ft, 42 rebs. Oneonta makes 16 of first 29fg, winds up 30x61, 9x21 3s, 5x13ft. E. Bratt 19 pts(7x12fg, 5x7 3s); J. Murphy 11 pts(4x6fg); W. Heslin 10 pts(4x10fg); M. Reardon 5 assts, 5 stls

Sherod Harris certainly in most outstanding mix. We hesitate cause he came aboard 2nd semester, which may not mean much considering so few games played 1st semester. Believe he missed three conf. games

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2007, 11:12:20 PM
Oswego's E. Roberson `3' at 4:12 snaps 75-all tie. M. Burridge 19 pts, 15 rebs; Roberson 17 pts; K. Reuter 17 pts; D. White 11 pts; T. Franze 15 pts. Lakers 7x12 3s. NP's J. Hauser 28 pts, T. Cannon 16, A. Foluke-Henderson 16, M. Irwin 11, M. Hauser 10
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 10, 2007, 12:12:14 AM
Great to get out from under 8' of snow and visit balmy Brockport for sun, fun, and basketball. As one close to Bears ball commented at the half - "We've played lots of good halves." Not many back to back both implied and prophetic.



Most Outstanding Player: Sherod Harris. Wildly entertaining, looks like AI (hey, I'm 60+ and sitting in row 30), worth Geneseo prices to see. Kudos to the Port - $2 admission for seniors.

MVP (if SUNYAC had one): Cards AW. They can't leave home without him.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2007, 01:18:17 AM
jdex
       Just wanted to thank you for all the scores and info you've posted over the past few years. I don't know how you do it but you are the best.
        Also wanted to mention that Siskavich is a potsdam player and that was why you didn't have any info on him for the geneseo-plattsburgh game.
       Sounds like the cardinals had a little letdown against geneseo.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 10, 2007, 01:40:12 AM
Quote from: b4the3isme on February 09, 2007, 09:38:17 AM
SLU doesn't have a signature win. 

"Signature wins" isn't really one of the criteria for regional rankings. :)

St. Lawrence entered the day with an .850 regional winning percentage and a 10.800 Quality of Wins Index. Brockport entered the day with an .800 and a 10.300. That's not overly close in the QOWI department and I can see where that might have overridden a head-to-head result.

Of course, tonight's games throw all that out the window.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2007, 10:02:17 AM
To wit: Hamilton 76, St. Lawrence 68 and Bport comeback. Fifty six pt outburst in 2nd half keyed by 20-6 gait from the gate. Eagles 8x13 3 over closing 20' when Sherod H. netted 15 of his 23.

Grats, Magicman! B. Siskavich up and running for Pdam. That's what we get for too many rays here on Anna Maria Island   

And just to catch a couple of others: Bport 36x72fg, 11x27 3s, 9x15ft, 26 assts, 13 trnvrs to Pdam's 20 ............And Corts D. Maggiacomo 12 pts(4x11fg, 2x7 3s). Red Dragons' playoff hopes probably dead in the water despite fine road effort. Been that kind of season for TSpan troops. Growth coming a tad late, but growth: frosh 6-6ers M. Lewis, P. Oliver, small forward soph C. Niehoff, quick jr guard J. Miolen
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: RadioGuy on February 10, 2007, 01:59:22 PM
What gives?  Brockport State was up in the rankings until "meaningless" losses during the JP Morgan Chase tournament.  Now, they are on a 9 game streak, and are blowing out the competition.  When do you start to see this team back in the ranks.  They will win SUNYACs, be in the NCAA...and then what?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: superman57 on February 10, 2007, 02:22:14 PM
sorry no loss is meaningless....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2007, 07:00:09 PM
Oswego 88, Oneonta 59. E. Roberson 26 pts

Geneseo 85, Potsdam 59. Knights by double figures midway into first half and that margin lasts. Was 43-29 at half. Gens 31x48fg, 6x13 3s, 17x23ft, 29 reb. S. Morton 17 pts(2x5 3s) 9 assts, 5 stls; S. Sciera 14 pts(6x6fg); J. Kling 13 pts(5x6fg); T. Kitson 12 pts(6x9fg) 7 rebs; S. McDonnell 11 pts(3x4 3s); J. Howe 10 pts(4x4fg). Pdam 22x50fg, 6x18 3s, 18 rebs. J. Hall 11 pts(5x6fg) 3 assts, 3 stls; T. Reinhardt 10 pts(5x9fg) 3 assts, 2 stls; B. Graney 10 pts(3x6fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2007, 07:30:36 PM
Buffalo St. 96, New Paltz 83. BS solidifies hold on final playoff berth after winning 1,000th in Bengal history previous night. Takes 48-39 halftime bulge over foul plagued NP. BS 37x69fg. D. Mozelle 21 pts(8x11fg) 7 reb in 18'; C. guiden 12 pts(6x9fg); A. Samedi 12 pts, 7 reb in 18'; DJ Nubine-Mitchell 11 pts(5x9fg); B. wood 11 pts(3x11fg) 6 assts, 3 stls, 7 trnvrs. NP 27x65fg, 23x32ft. A. Foluke-Henderson 20 pts(7x12fg) 12 reb, 5pf in 27'; J. Hauser 18 pts(6x13fg) 5pf in 23'; T. Cannon 20 pts(7x15fg) 5 assts, 3 stls; M. Hauser 10 pts;L. Bertram 5pf in 12'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2007, 09:33:28 PM
Plattsburgh 60, Morrisville 57
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2007, 10:30:09 PM
Fredonia 78, SUNYIT 74 ot. Upset special! Devils hold slim lead most of the way from midway 1st half. Eleven ties, last at 69 in ot. T. Alassari `3' puts Freds up for keeps at 3:04. A. Smith big hoop at 1:20 withstands 1pt IT approach, and B. Cooper 2ft seals deal. Freds 36-32 at half. Reg 64-64. Alassari 19 pts (7x15fg, 5x9 3s) 6 rebs, 5 assts, 2 stls, 2 trnvrs in 43'; Cooper 16 pts(5x12fg, 2x5 3s) 3 assts; K. Reichlmayr 15 pts(5x14fg) 14 rebs; Smith 13 pts(4x8fg); K. Saunders 11 pts, 4 assts. Freds 27x63fg, 11x25 3s, 13x15ft, 45 rebs. IT 25x61fg, 8x23 3s, 16x21ft, 31 rebs. C. Reaves 19 pts(6x15fg, 1x5 3s) 8 rebs, 5 stls; A. Gilkes 17 pts(7x13fg) 10 rebs; E. Belone 15 pts(5x11fg, 3x6 3s) 4 stls; C. LaBoard 13 pts(4x12fg) 7 assts, 2 stls

Oswego out to 39-24 halftime burying of Oneonta. Lakers 27x52fg, 26x36ft. Roberson 26 pts(6x9fg, 4x6 3s) 3 assts, 3 stls; K. Reuter 10 pts(4x8fg); T.Downing 10 pts; M. Burridge 10 rebs, 8 pts; T. Franze 6 pts, 3 assts, 3 stls in 22'. Dragons 21x46fg, 32pf. R.Morin 14 pts(6x8fg) in 19'; W. Heslin 9 pts. Three lead reb with 4 each

Plattsburgh scores first 10 points, then trails 11-10 and Morrisville makes game of it. Cards 36-31 at half. Just 58-57 at 0:30. Missed 2nd ft by Mville is all preventing tie at that juncture. Pburgh 23x55fg, 6x25 3s, 8x8ft, 42 reb, 21 trnvrs. K. Hunt 14 pts(5x8fg) 9 rebs in 27'; M. Dietz 13 pts(4x9fg, 3x6 3s) in 21'; T.Gorham 10 pts(4x6fg) 14 rebs, 3 stls. Fourteen Cards in action. Mville (6-16) 20x58fg. S.Dodrick 25 pts(8x11fg, 4x5 3s) 6 assts, 3 stls in 37'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2007, 12:33:19 AM
And just when you think it's over ......along comes Yogi, er Fran. Cortland guru reminds us Red Dragons aren't going quietly in quest for playoff slot. Still hope. Instead of chasing Buff St. for eighth seed, Potsdam now gets CSt attention. Corts currently ninth at 4-9, Pdam eighth at 5-8. They clash Tuesday in north country where guests looking to sweep season series. Next weekend finales have Corts at Bport and home to Freds; Bears at NP and at Oneonta.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 11, 2007, 11:53:28 AM
On the topic of player of the year in the SUNYAC, it's very wide open to this point.  I think that Sherod Harris and Chris Reaves are probably the favorites but their are several deserving candidates.  Here would be my all conference teams through this point in the season:

1st team:

G-Sherod Harris (Bport)-16ppg, 4apg, 2.5st. (Best player on the best team)
G-Anthony Williams (Plattsburgh)-19.8ppg (the glue to his team)
G-Chris Reaves (SUNYIT)-18ppg, 5rpg, 5apg, 2.8spg (he does it all for his team)
F-Scott Morton (Geneseo)-13.8, 5rpg, 4.7apg, 2bpg, 2.5spg (he's ranked in top 12 in 8 categories)
F-Todd Franze (Oswego)-17.7ppg, 3apg, 2spg (He's had a breakout year)

2nd Team:
G-Chris Laboard (SUNYIT)-17ppg, 8rpg, 3apg, 2spg
F-Travis Gorham (Platt)-12.8ppg, 10.5 rpg
F-Brandon Williams (Bport)-13.7ppg, 7.9rpg
C-Matt Burridge (Oswego)-13ppg, 8.7rpg
F-Will Heslin (Oneonta)-13.5ppg, 6rpg

3rd team:
F-A. Foluke (New Paltz)-18.6ppg, 7.8rpg (probably belongs higher if not for teams record)
G-Dave Maggiacomo (Cortland)-16.2 ppg
F-Tarik Kitson (Geneseo)-12.8ppg, 6rpg
G-Erik Roberson (Oswego)-15ppg
F-Cantrel Parish (Bport)-12ppg, 5rpg
G-Kerry Wood (Buff.)-13.5ppg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 12, 2007, 12:07:32 AM
Hmmm I am apt to agree that no loss is meaningless...  Not too fond of a current Brockport broadcaster's statement there...

Anyway, the Eastern region is not too high on the pollster's radar, and maybe if the eagles make a run into the playoffs, then it's possible they'll make it into the poll...

It's nice to see that they are doing so well this year, wish I could see them play!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: RadioGuy on February 13, 2007, 12:34:42 AM
It's unfortunate that the Eastern Region isn't very liked.  I think the SUNYAC system in itself has a strong level of competiveness.  I understand that "no loss is meaningless" but the tournament wasn't a huge deal, and it doesn't count on the SUNYAC record.
  As far as Brockport, they are doing very well this year.  This is a team that does well often.  Last year was an off year, but that was due to a shallow bench.  Anyway, hopefully I can click on the polls soon and see them on the list somewhere...AP has them 2nd in East..Probably will change come Wednesday when the new lists come out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2007, 08:59:10 AM
Every game counts .....with meaning. And for SUNYACs this season that's especially true since league, for the most part, is fairly mediocre. Bport has stepped up, then down, and currently is playing very well, and at a good time. C. Parrish becoming integral figure. Now .......Eagles going to SUNYIT tonight. Will real IT please stand up!

Also Tuesday matchups that, off recent play, could go either way. Corts at Pdam has playoff implications (as in in/out), Oswego at Pburgh, NP at Oneonta, Freds at BS

Razor, can't find much fault. A few others deserve mention
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: RadioGuy on February 13, 2007, 10:15:24 PM
Well, BPort is now 1st in East...clinched 1st in SUNYACs...and this should give them the bid to the NCAA's.  We'll see how long until they get the recognition they deserve, right?  I don't mean to deny or down anybody here, but this is coming from somebody who follows all Brockport athletics...a sports program that is always underestimated and seems to continuously get looked over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 13, 2007, 10:24:45 PM
 Dude, are you friggin seriuos??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2007, 10:33:07 PM
Cortland sinks Potsdam 67-65 to move into 8th place tie with Pdam (CSt sweeps series with Bears). Frosh M. Lewis 23 pts(9x10fg, 5x13ft), 9 reb in 32'. Scores 18 pts. in 2nd half following 28-28 tie at break. D. Jutton 19 pts(5x12fg, 4x10 3s, 5x5ft), 3 assts in 36'. Scores 12 after intermission. C. Niehoff 9 pts(3x6fg), J. Miolen 6 rebs. Corts 21x46fg, 6x19 3s, 19x33ft. Bears lost 5th straight, 7 in last 8 starts. Go 24x50fg, 6x18 3s, 11x14ft. B. Siskavich of hosts 17 pts(7x10fg, 2x4 3s); S. Mitchell 14 pts(5x7fg, 4x6 3s), 5 assts, 5 trnvrs, 3 stls; D. Brown 11 pts(3x9fg); J. Hall 10 rebs

Oneonta 79, New Paltz 69. W. Heslin 19 pts(7x15fg), 11 rebs, 4 stls; B. Fisk 16 pts(5x11fg, 3x6 3s); R.Fitzgerald 11 pts(5x9fg); E.Bratt 11 pts(4x9fg), 3 assts, 2 stls. OSt 19x34fg 1st half enroute to 50-28 lead; finish 29x66fg. NP 23x49fg, 7x16 3s). J. Hauser 24 pts(6x12fg, 4x7 3s; T. Cannon 15 pts(6x9fg), 6 stls, 8 trnvrs, 9 rebs; A. Foluke-Henderson 13 pts(6x12fg, 1x7ft), 7 rebs, 5 stls; M. Irwin 12 pts(4x8fg)

Buffalo St. 74, Fredonia 59. J. Lawal 19 pts(8x9fg), 5 rebs; C. Hepburn 12 pts(4x8fg), 8 rebs; C. Guiden 12 pts(5x12fg). BS 39-30 at half. Bengals 27x54fg. Freds 22x60fg. T. Alassari  6x12fg, 2x6 3s, 3 assts, 2 stls; A. Smith 13 pts(5x6fg, 2x4 3s); B. Cooper 6 rebs; K. Reichlmayr 9 pts, 4pf in 22'

Brockport 114, SUNYIT 108. Wouldn't expect anything else!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2007, 10:49:32 PM
Plattsburgh 78, Oswego 77
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 14, 2007, 12:09:16 AM
Brockport gallops to 58-40 halftime lead on 22x35fg, 5x9 3s. Widens gap till IT within 109-106 on C. Reaves & E. Belone 3s. FTs clinch. Eagles 10th in a row. Sherod Harris 24 pts, C. Parrish 21, Shawn Harris 16, M. Wilkes 11, B. Williams 10. IT's Belone 34 pts (6 3s), Reaves 29 in 40'; C. LaBoard 19, A. Gilkes 15
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2007, 02:05:56 AM
Went to the Plattsburgh/Oswego game and certainly got my money's worth. Cards won 78-77 on 3 pt play by Travis Gorham with about a minute to go. Lakers missed on their next possession and fouled with 35 secs to go. Cards missed both foul shots and Lakers came down, went inside to Mat Burridge who was fouled with 6 secs to go. He missed both attempts and the Cards squeaked out the win to give them a 2 game lead on 2nd place. Gorham, Anthony Williams and Khylan Hunt all came up big for the Cardinals. Burridge, Kyle Reuter and Erik Roberson led the Lakers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2007, 02:25:44 AM
I know there's a big weekend left in the league but after tonight's games this looks like the first round of playoff action.

          #8 Cortland @ #1 Brockport
       
          #7 Buffalo @ #2 Plattsburgh

          #6 Sunyit @ #3 Oswego

          #5 Geneseo @ #4 Oneonta

The 3 4 5 & 6 spots are all subject to change but I think this is the way they'll end up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 14, 2007, 09:09:52 AM
Pburgh's A. Williams 24 pts; T. Gorham 24 pts, 14 rebs, 7 assts; K. Hunt 19  pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks; D. Lynch 10 rebs, 2 blks. Oswego's E. Roberson 20  pts, K. Reuter 15, M. Burridge 13, D. White 12, T. Franze 6 assts
Cards with 39-35 lead. Lakers tie quickly on White pts prior to Hunt hoop leading to Pburgh edge till OSt ties at 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 15, 2007, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: RadioGuy on February 13, 2007, 10:15:24 PM
Well, BPort is now 1st in East...clinched 1st in SUNYACs...and this should give them the bid to the NCAA's.  We'll see how long until they get the recognition they deserve, right?  I don't mean to deny or down anybody here, but this is coming from somebody who follows all Brockport athletics...a sports program that is always underestimated and seems to continuously get looked over.

Always underestimated?....I would assume you are too young to remember when this site has had both Brockport basketball and Football in the top 10..

It's just the way it is....it really shouldn't matter to you or anyone at Brockport where their ranking is.  All that matters at this point is that they win the SUNYAC and get in the tournament. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on February 15, 2007, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 15, 2007, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: RadioGuy on February 13, 2007, 10:15:24 PM
Well, BPort is now 1st in East...clinched 1st in SUNYACs...and this should give them the bid to the NCAA's.  We'll see how long until they get the recognition they deserve, right?  I don't mean to deny or down anybody here, but this is coming from somebody who follows all Brockport athletics...a sports program that is always underestimated and seems to continuously get looked over.

Always underestimated?....I would assume you are too young to remember when this site has had both Brockport basketball and Football in the top 10..

It's just the way it is....it really shouldn't matter to you or anyone at Brockport where their ranking is.  All that matters at this point is that they win the SUNYAC and get in the tournament. 

Yeah, but why wasn't the victory over SUNYIT the lead story on SportsCenter?  See... no respect.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 15, 2007, 10:23:49 PM
Brockport might have been in the top 10 in both the football and basketball but it was warranted. It wasn't like Brockport was playing cupcakes. They won the Chase and played a handful of teams. They did lose to U of R in the Elite 8 game. In the NCAA tourney it is all about matchups. U of R - Brockport is always a battle of contrasting styles. Brockport wants to get up and down while the Yellowjackets want to grind it out. I believe at the end of that season that Golden Eagles were ranked around 14 by d3hoops. That team might have been one of the most talented and deepest team the East Region has seen in a long time.

People need to remember that Brockport is 4-1 against NESCAC schools in the NCAA tourney. They have beaten both Trinity and Amherst twice and then lost to the Williams team that lost at the buzzer vs. Wisc. Stevens Point. I don't think that I'm going out on a limb here but there aren't too many teams that are 4-1 versus the NESCAC in postseason play.

One thing that I wouldn't mind seeing is a couple of teams from the East Region, preferably U of R, Brockport, and Fisher take on a group of schools from the Midwest, like UW-Stevens Point, Wooster, and Hope, on a neutral floor with neutral refs. It would an interesting thing to do, maybe d3hoops can help set it up because the state schools usually have a tough time their budgets. I'm not saying that East region would dominate and win all the games but it would definitely test all teams involved with some good games and maybe a different perspective of the East and/or Midwest region.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2007, 05:09:24 PM
Heading into the last roundup with a pair of big Friday dates since Corts and Pdam share last playoff berth: Corts in Bport in what could be first round tourney appointment, and Pdam at the Paltz. In other jockeying pairings: Pburghers at IT, Gens at Freds

On Saturday Corts could already know fate or what they have to do in night home go with Freds, since Pdam has afternoon session at Oneonta. And Gens are at Bport, Buffs at Oswego, Pburgh at NP

Current stackup: Bport 12-2(19-4), Pburgh 10-4(16-7), One 9-6(11-13), Osw 9-6(13-11), Gens 8-6(14-9), IT 8-7(14-10), BS 7-8(12-11), CSt 5-9(9-14), Pdam 5-9(8-15), NP 3-11(10-13), Freds 3-11(6-16)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2007, 09:40:40 PM
Brockport 83, Cortland 63. Port by 45-31 at intermission and always in control. Sherod Harris 20 pts(4x9fg, 4x6 3s), 15 by half. Plays team-high 27'. C. Parrish 12 pts(3x4fg) in 19'. Outboard Corts 33-25 and do a number off offense glass. Port 26x55fg,; 21x26ft, 10x24 3s, 19 assts. Corts 23x46fg, 9x18ft, 8x17 3s, 19 trnrvs. D. Maggiacomo 15 pts(5x11fg, 4x7 3s) in 26'; frosh P. Oliver 10 pts(3x3fg) in 27'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2007, 10:51:26 PM
New Paltz 75, Potsdam 66. Both Pdam and Corts lose to remain tied for 8th spot. NP with edge most of the way, 37-32 at the break. Bears hold only lead of second half with 9:05 left. Shortlived, but game knotted at 4:07. NP back to fore and T. Cannon provides points for late lift. NP 26x59fg, 6x15 3s, 17x31ft. A. Foluke-Henderson 24 pts(10x15fg), 7 rebs; J. Hauser 21 pts(7x14fg, 2x3 3s), 8 rebs, 4 assts, 4 stls; M. Hauser 11 pts; T. Cannon 10 pts, 4 stls. Pdam 25x50fg. T. Reinhardt 19 pts(9x10fg) in 28'; D. Brown 14 pts(5x11fg); J. Hall 12 pts(5x9fg), 9 rebs, 3 stls, 10 trnvrs (Pdam 23); B. Graney 10 pts, 9 rebs

SUNYIT 89, Plattsburgh 84. Cards close to 1 on A. Williams trey in closing moments. C. LaBoard completes big night (29 pts, 13 reb) with 2ft at 0:17 for IT. Williams '3' misfires and E. Belone finishes 18 pt. night with 2ft in win. C. Reaves 13 pts, A.Gilkes 15 pts, 12 rebs. Williams 21 pts. for Burgh

Geneseo 66, Fredonia 44. Over early. Gens 29-13 at half as Freds 5x21fg. Knights 23x43fg overall, 9x14 3s, 11x14ft. S. McDonnell 15 pts(4x8fg, 3x6 3s), 3 assts, 4 rebs in 28'; S. Morton 13 pts(4x6fg, 4x5 3s), 5 rebs, 5 stls; J. Howe 10 pts(5x7fg) in 18'. Devils 16x54fg. T. Alassari 12 pts(5x15fg), 5 rebs; K. Reichlmayr 11 pts(4x9fg), 8 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 16, 2007, 10:56:50 PM
So is Brockport's radio guy going to come on here and talk smack again, and complain about Brockport not getting any respect? That was pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2007, 01:42:26 AM
Which year are we talking?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 17, 2007, 10:35:28 AM
With the screen name pg04, I am guessing he is talking about 2004 when Brockport was the only D-III to get their Football, BAsketball and Baseball teams into the NCAA tournament.

It was a nice accomplishment....  I am sure some other teams have done that in other years, but it is still a very nice accomplishment.

And as long as Brockport doesn't lose in the first (or second) round of the SUNYAC tournament... being ranked #1 in the east most likely gets them into the tournament already.  BUT it is better to win the tournament and not have to worry about who may beat someone else and having to wait for a bid.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 17, 2007, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2007, 01:42:26 AM
Which year are we talking?

If this was for me, I wasn't actually speaking of it happening in the same year, but relatively close to one another...and I think my memory deceived me about it being top 10 for both, however between the years I was there both teams had made it to the elite 8 of the tournament of their respectivesports....and I am relatively sure that at least the football team made it into top 10 at sometime, though now that I think of it, the basketball team probably wasn't.  2003-2004 wasn't specifically the year I referred to, but that's a good year to bring up. 

Regardless, my comment was made to defend the pollstars, as well as saying that it shouldn't matter at all to anyone in Brockport...and just to keep the roll going.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 17, 2007, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: John McGraw on February 16, 2007, 10:56:50 PM
So is Brockport's radio guy going to come on here and talk smack again, and complain about Brockport not getting any respect? That was pretty hilarious.

I didn't ever do that did I? lol  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on February 17, 2007, 06:01:47 PM
Oops, didn't mean pg04. I meant RadioGuy, whom pg04 quoted in an earlier post.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 17, 2007, 07:02:42 PM
pg04 & John,

No problem with either of yoru posts, I was just commenting to support pg04's comments about brockport being high in the polls years ago.  It was very impressive to do it in the same year and to have baseball do it too!

And I do agree it was a bit comical seeing the complaints about where a team is in the polls.  Although as a fellow Brockport supporter it was nice to see the passion for the team!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2007, 07:10:33 PM
Potsdam 61, Oneonta 59. Bears do their part to make tourney, but need Cortland loss to visiting Fredonia to clinch. Corts win and advance via tiebreaking criteria (sweep of Pdam)

Plattsburgh 71, New Paltz 66. NP by 12 early and 37-35 at half. Squared at 66 at 2:22 when Pburgh ft's grab lead. A. Miller ft's clinch. Cards 24x53fg, 4x19 3s, 19x23ft. A. Williams 30 pts(9x21fg on heels of 7x25fg in Fri. slip to IT) 1x6 3s, 11x11ft, 7reb, 5 assts; Miller 12 pts(5x8fg) 7 rebs, 4 stls; T. Gorham (2 pts, 6 rebs in 16') and K. Hunt (7 pts, 5 rebs in 29') both with 4pf. NP windup has A. Foluke-Henderson 18 pts(8x15fg), 3stls; J. Hauser 15 pts(5x12fg, 2x4 3s), 4 stls; T. Cannon 10 pts(5x10fg),5 rebs, 5 assts, 4 stls; M. Irwin 7 rebs, 7 assts.
On Friday at IT, Pburgh's Miller added 18 pts to Williams 21 (1x9 3s), J. Dumont 15 on 5x10 3s, T. Gorham 12 pts, 13 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 17, 2007, 07:31:14 PM
Quote from: Bob Maxwell on February 17, 2007, 07:02:42 PM
pg04 & John,

No problem with either of yoru posts, I was just commenting to support pg04's comments about brockport being high in the polls years ago.  It was very impressive to do it in the same year and to have baseball do it too!

And I do agree it was a bit comical seeing the complaints about where a team is in the polls.  Although as a fellow Brockport supporter it was nice to see the passion for the team!

Agreed, and that baseball run may have been the most impressive run of all 3 sports for the port. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2007, 07:42:47 PM
Potsdam's J. Hall layup at 0:16 stops Oneonta. Pdam by 32-27 at half. Tied at 55 . with 2:21 left and at 59 at 0:24 when OSt's W. Heslin delivers ft pair. Pdam ends loss string on 20x48fg, 4x14 3s, 17x18ft. D. Brown 18 pts(6x15fg, 1x4 3s ...has 15 pt. 1st half on 6x10fg); B. Siskavich 12 pts(4x9fg, 2x5 3s), 9 rebs; B. Graney 11 pts; Hall 10 pts(4x6fg) 4pf in 32'; T. Reinhardt 0x0fg, 2x2ft, 5pf in 17'. OSt 21x60fg, 2x18 3s, 15x19ft. W.Heslin 16 pts(5x13fg); M. Reardon 8 rebs. Pdam sweeps home and home
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2007, 08:01:11 PM
And I was referring to John's post, thinking that there was at least one other year a Brockport broadcaster came on and ran smack. I know that their student workers have been represented on the boards. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 17, 2007, 08:25:49 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2007, 08:01:11 PM
And I was referring to John's post, thinking that there was at least one other year a Brockport broadcaster came on and ran smack. I know that their student workers have been represented on the boards. :)

I would know nothing of the sorts!  ;) .... anyway some that have come on here have been informative, some secretive and talking smack, others not so secretive and talking smack.

In the end I think it just comes own to a strong desire to see the team do well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2007, 08:58:24 PM
Talk about smackdowns! Fredonia 37, Cortland 35 at the half. C. Niehoff 13 pts, J. Miolen 10 for CSt. T. Alassari, K. Reichlmayr 11 each for Freds
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2007, 10:15:50 PM
Cortland 80, Fredonia 73. Spunky second half for Red Dragons, who earn return trip to Brockport on Tuesday. Land 14x28 3s and 23x47fg to offset strong Fredonia spoiler effort. D. Maggiacomo 18 pts(4x12fg, 4 3s); J. Miolen 16 pts (4 3s); C. Niehoff 15 pts; D. Jutton 14 pts (4x7 3s); M. Lewis 10 rebs. CSt 20x26ft. Freds 29x51fg, 7x19 3s, 8x11ft. K. Reichlmayr 17 pts, 8 rebs; T. Alassari 17 pts, A. Smith 14 pts, K. Gordon 11 pts, B. Cooper 14 pts

Brockport 79, Geneseo 63. Bport 38-33 intermission. Go 25x50fg, 9x19 3s, 20x27ft. D. Maldonado 15 pts(5x7fg, 3x5 3s) in 15'; Sherod Harris 14 pts(3x9fg), 5 assts; A. Poles 13 pts(4x7fg); C. Parrish 12 pts(5x8fg); B. Williams 11 rebs, 4 stls. Eagles bench outpts Gen spares 49-11. Knights 23x55fg, 14x20ft, 3x15 3s. S. Morton 22 pts(7x10fg, 1x3 3s); G. Spears 20 pts(9x14fg), 8 rebs; T. Kitson 4 assts, 0 pts; S. McDonnell 4 pts

Oswego 77, Buffalo St. 69. Lakers 42-33 at half. Lead nearly entire way but by slim counts. BS draws to 1 twice in closing moments. T. Downing answers both for Oswego, second time at 1:15 making it 72-69. Go 31x61fg, 6x15 3s, 9x19ft. M. Burridge 22 pts(11x16fg), 10 rebs; E. Roberson 18 pts(6x12fg, 2x4 3s) in 26'; Downing 12 pts(4x6fg, 2x2 3s) 9 assts, 1 trnvr; K. Reuter 10 pts; D.White 9 rebs, 9 pts; T. Franze 8 assts, 3 pts(1x7fg) in 37'. BS 31x76fg, 0x6 3s, 7x17ft, 53 rebs. D.Griggs 17 pts(8x16fg), 13 rebs, 3 assts in 23'; D.Mozelle 14 pts(6x12fg), 11 rebs; J. Lawal 10 pts(5x12fg), 6 rebs; 4pf in 16'; C.Guiden 5 assts. BS opens tourney at Pburgh. Oswego finishes third in conf.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2007, 10:35:57 PM
And looks like Genseo at Oswego, IT vs. Oneonta
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 18, 2007, 12:35:53 AM

Congratulations to the Brockport Brigade. No one poses a serious SUNYAC tourney threat if you're disciplined enough to take care of business. Suprise me and win a couple in the NCAA's.

T. Curley my coach of the year. Cards flew under everyone's radar, all the way to second.

Lakers hang together for 3rd without a point. Ah, what might have been.

And as a long-time Bears fan...

Top 3 Reasons for Leaving New York and the Planet in February:

3. Digging out from under 12 feet of snow
2. President George W. Decider and and  Governor Elliot Steamroller
1. Total collapse of Bears basketball


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 18, 2007, 11:22:10 AM
I don't think Curle (not Curley) will win Coach of the Year. I believe that Whitmore from Brockport will get it. You look at that team and it is basically a team new from last year. He has won twelve straight and looks to be steamrolling for a NCAA bid. Curle has done a good job but we must remember that they won SUNYACs last year and it doesn't seem to be a suprise on how well they've done (at least to me).

Disappointing year for the Potsdam Bears. Losing a lot of leadership hurt quite a bit. Still a very talented bunch. If somehow, they put some egos aside they could challenge for a top spot next year.

Does anyone know if Pieroli (sp?) from Oswego is going to come back for a final year next year? If he comes back and is a similar player to how he was before, they can also challenge for the conference title.

Matchups should be interesting here in the tourney. Brockport clearly has the advantage if they can take care of business against that other phys ed school. I wonder what the atmosphere will be like with the tourney back on campus. It has to be better than the Aud. The only time the Aud was lively was when the Charleston Chiefs with the Hanson brothers made their appearance in the movie Slapshot. The sad thing about that was the Aud hadn't changed from the time the movie took place until last year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 18, 2007, 02:40:11 PM
Interesting to go back to page 33 area of this site and regurgitate early season outlooks. Slickyquick had some nice calls. Even made mention of Bport propensity to add second semester assistance. Did it ever! But don't believe anyone saw the power-to-be at the finish line. Whitmore lock in my mind. Plattsburgh always on my radar, and A. Williams lived up to solid billing.

SUNYIT and Geneseo came in under (my) expectations. Geneseo can be excused because of injuries. Scarey IT (home tuesday to Oneonta) in line for semi game at Bport. Potsdam biggest. NP close second. Kudos to Oswego for getting it done minus all-star Perioli. Slew of close ones, and who knows how many tight setbacks he would have turned the other way. Others probably in their element -- Oneonta, BS, Corts (though any sort of consistent finishes would've made for winning season), Freds

As for Perioli. He certain has eligibility. Also is an all-conference baseballer. In that vein, Max, Oswego has already lost last season's top performer (jr of Anthony Coromato, .460 avg, 44bi, 7hr, .835slugpct) to Cortland. As if Corts need more help there. Bundle of stars back to team that's won 9 of last 10 SUNYACs and 14 of last 16!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 19, 2007, 07:32:18 AM
jdex,

Yes, they did pick up Coromato... and have most of their pitching back.  There has been a lot of discussion on the baseball SUNYAC borad about the upcoming season.  It seems to be a concenous that Cortland & Brockport will compete for 1 & 2... with Plattsuburgh, Oneonta and perhaps New Paltz & Fredonia fighting for the last 2 spots.  Pburgh & Ostate are the two in question... as they both lost their top pitchers.

It will be interesting season and also to go back after the season and see what the predictionw were on here just like in the basketball pages.

I think Brockport has picked up a lot to fill the losses from last year... and have upgraded so it will be an interesting season, even with Coromato going from Oswego to Cortland...  by the way, that loss will be very tough for Oswego to over come.

4 mor edays to SUNYAC baseball hits the field.   And one until the basketball tournemant starts!  Great time of year... (if it gets warm that is... )  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 19, 2007, 02:34:13 PM
Anyone with an attention span longer than a lightening bolt watching Potsdam this season recognize that their problems extend far beyond "egos". If it were "Egos",  then we could hope that off-season psychotherapy might help them "challenge for a top spot next year". Sadly, not the case.

Among their more pressing issues, Potsdam was 1) unable to defend anyone with even modest post talent, and 2) when they did sag to provide inside help they lacked the team speed to defend the kickout to the wings. Egos aside, they got consistently beat both inside and outside.

As for next year...the Bears look forward to replacing point guard Scot Mitchell with...? and it's a complete mystery where on-floor team leadership, sorely lacking this year,  will come from next.

While not at all sure which specific egos were referenced, more effective recruiting is required before Bears are again competitive.

Re: COY

Yes, it is a so what, who cares selection. But I'm not so busy....

Whitmore selection is easy way and appropriately meaningless, regardless of  the "Gee, its ever so hard to coach a team with talent" argument. Brockport was relatively loaded in a weak SUNYAC. Oswego and Geneseo wiped out with injuries. No one knows how Oneonta did as well in the league as they did. SUNYIT again had a part-time coach. Etc...

Whitmore did the job with two starting fives and a cast of thousands. Curley molded a winner with much less. From the standpoint of any oustanding teaching and motivational performance, Spahbauer deserves more recognition that either. Dragons had amble opportunity to kiss off the season, light up a Lucky, and wait until next year. They didn't. They played hard every game, and certainly, not to my surprise, clawed their way into the tournament in the last week of the season, bumping the Bears to...the school psycologists couch?

But enough is enough and evidence suggests interest is waning in a season with little drama, less excitement, and no one ready to make a mark in the NCAAs. Still, Geneseo @ Oswego Tuesday...





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 19, 2007, 08:29:55 PM
Well zola, it is obvious you are getting what I said. Potsdam had a problem this year and the problem had to do with playing a lot of minutes as freshmen and then not feeling that it is necessary to work hard as sophomores. They have one of the most talented individuals in the SUNYAC yet they couldn't bring it together. In part because they wanted to get theirs and in part because they didn't have leadership. Toughness and basketball IQ are things that you need to get by at any level and if you watched the SUNYIT game on tv then you understand that they lacked toughness especially in the post.

So do the Bears need some help on the recruiting trail, yes they do. But with the talent they have returning they need to put their egos aside and share the basketball a little more, beat the crap out of each other during the spring to instill some toughness, and get some bigs who aren't afraid to get after it on the defensive end.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on February 20, 2007, 02:19:06 PM
going into the tournament i don't think anyone can match up with brockport the past month or 2.. Losing to 3 SUNYAC teams Potsdam who the don't have to worry about, Geneseo and Oswego (in which one will eliminate the other tonight..) I think it is safe to say these are the only 2 teams port has to worry about..

should be a battle in oswego tonight..
at home i have to give the edge to oswego, they are tough to beat on their own floor. and have made something out of their season when they could of easily thrown in the towel early on with the loss of pg.. on that topic they should have their leader back next year with a year left standing.. good news for lakers.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 20, 2007, 05:30:10 PM
SQ - my final, thank God, 2006-7 Bears commentary. Many posts ago, mentioned that Bears had no "take names" leadership particularly on the defensive end. Not from their seniors and certainly not from their underclassmen.

I apparently have missed  prior comments re: their soft post play and lack of quickness to get to perimeter people.

As regards talent: Brown is a scorer who doesn't defend. Graney is much improved but will continue to have size problems with 4's and quickness problems with 3s. Neither Reihnardt, if he comes back to complete elibibility, nor Siskavich is a power player in the post.  I can't identify a 5th solid starter among remaining. 6th and 7th man? Still in highschool.

Absolutely, they need to ..."share the basketball a little (more than a little) more, beat the crap out of each other during the spring..." and certainly hope that season ending swan dive into the abyss serves as serious slap up side the head of any inflated egos...regardless, this group won't get it done without tranfusion of talent and committment.

Anyway, off to Oswego...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2007, 09:46:17 PM
Brockport 74, Cortland 56. Rough first half by both. Neither shoots well. CSt by 20-18 with about 5' left. A. Poles `3' give Eagles edge for keeps. Go on to 31-24 halftime lead. Roar into second half and immediately forge big margin, by 21 at one stage. Corts, who missed first 12 treys before getting one with 12+ minutes left, back within 10 and ball at 5' mark. Turnovers starts CSt unraveling. Port 29x52fg, 5x12 3s, 11x17ft, 34-25reb, 14 trnvrs to Corts 11, 18-6 2nd chance pts.C. Parrish 22 pts(10x15fg), 5 rebs; Shawn Harris 13 pts(5x8fg); B. Williams 15 pts(6x10fg), 10 rebs, 3 assts; Sherod harris 5 pts(2x2fg), 3 assts.  Dragons 21x54fg, 9x11ft, 5x21 3s. D. Jutton 17 pts(7x15fg, 3x9 3s); P. Oliver 11 pts(5x6fg) in 13'; D. Maggiacomo 8 pts(2x8fg); C. Niehoff 6 pts(2x10fg), 6 rebs; M. Lewis 7 rebs. CSt bench 19-12 pt. margin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2007, 10:08:29 PM
SUNYIT 90, Oneonta 73. OSt 11-4 early before IT takes 20-17 edge and ahead 34-32 at break. Oneonta seizes brief upper hand but Cats go on rampage. At one point up by 23. C. LaBoard 25 pts, 9 rebs, 6 assts, 6 stls; C. Reaves 25 pts. OSt's E. Bratt 23 pts

Plattsburgh 82, Buffalo St. 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2007, 10:26:43 PM
Plattsburgh 82  Buffalo State 72
Plattsburgh started slowly and finally caught Bengals 22-21 with about 5 min. to go in half.  Cards up 34-28 at the break. Cards stayed 8-9 points ahead and back to back 3's by A. Williams and A. Miller stretched the lead to 15 with about 8 mins. to go in the game. Plattsburgh got a little sloppy and let the Bengals claw their way back in as they closed it to 67-65 with about 3:30 to play. A technical foul was called on a Buff. State player for trash talking after he hit a 3 and Plattsburgh was able to open up a 7 point lead. Foul shots made the final margin of 10.
  Cardinals led by Anthony Miller with 25 pts(16 of them on free throws all in the 2nd half) Khylan Hunt had 17 Travis Gorham had 16 and Anthony Miller had 10. Mike Dietz had a fine all around game with 9 pts, some key rebounds and took several chargesat opportune times. Buffalo State was led by Carlton Guiden with 13 pts, Dante Griggs with 12 and Jay Wingate with 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 20, 2007, 10:47:47 PM
Oswego wins as well over Oneonta...all 4 home teams hold serve (same in the women's games.)  Brockport vs. SUNYIT, P'burgh vs. Oswego.

IT is probably the only one of the 3 with a legit chance at beating Brockport with the Wildcats' high octane offense.  'Port only beat 'em by 6 in a wild one about 2 weeks ago or so.  Doubtful Plattsburgh would get an at-large bid at 19-9 with a loss in the finals.  Brockport is a solid NCAA lock at this point.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2007, 11:33:05 PM
Actually, Oswego stops Geneseo 61-51. Lakers by 32-30 thru 20'. Hit 22x51fg, 6x17 3s, 11x21ft. M. Burridge 18 pts(8x14fg), 5 reb; T. Downing 16 pts(5x10fg), 3 assts, 4 stls; K. Reuter 11 pts(4x8fg); T. Franze 7 pts, 4 assts; D. White 8 rebs; E.Roberson 8 rebs. Gens 22x56fg, 2x13 3s, 5x13ft. S. Sciera 12 pts(6x10fg), 6 rebs; S. Morton 9 pts(3x14fg, 0x7 3s), 7 rebs; B.Bennett 8 pts; J. Howe 8 pts; T. Kitson  8 rebs

Plattsburgh 33x46ft .........leads 34-28 at half. Cards 15x28fg 1st half, 23x50fg overall. Williams 4x15fg, 1x6 3s, 14x19ft, 4 assts; Hunt 5x10fg, 7x7ft, 9 rebs; Gorham 4x7fg, 6x10ft, 13 rebs; Miller 4x7fg, 5x6ft, 3 stls. Pburgh 42-28reb gap. Buffs 29x69fg and lose C. Guiden (13 pts, 22'), D. Griggs (12 pts), D. Mozelle (14') via 5pf. J. Wingate 10  pts

Port hosts final four. Friday vs. IT; Pburgh vs. Oswego. Saturday final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 20, 2007, 11:56:14 PM
Jdex is right of course, it was Geneseo not Oneonta.  The Oswego women beat Oneonta; must have looked at the wrong headline on their website.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: rjcarter8 on February 21, 2007, 12:55:07 PM
Just thought I'd take a look to see how the Northeast and East region QOWI's stack up aganist each other. It may have been overkill, but I grabbed the top 20 teams in each region, then compiled the combined list to the top 40 overall. It's clear to see the Northeast Region has teams with much higher QOWI than the East Region.

Northeast Region  (Region rank, QOWI, Overall rank, Team, Conference, Region win pct., Region record, Overall record)
1.   11.625 (1) Amherst (NESCAC)   0.958 (23-1)   24-1
2.    10.950 (3) Trinity (Conn.) (NESCAC)   0.850 (17-3)   21-3
3.    10.810 (4) Worcester Polytech (NEWMAC)   0.905 (19-2)   21-2
4.    10.708 (5) Salem State (MASCAC)   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
5.    10.520 (8) Rhode Island College (LEC)   0.880 (22-3)   22-3
6.    10.217 (20) Keene State (LEC)   0.826 (19-4)   22-4
7.    10.125 (25) Brandeis (UAA)   0.750 (18-6)   18-6
8.    9.792 (42) Bates (NESCAC)   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
9.    9.708 (49) Husson (NAC)   0.875 (21-3)   21-5
10.    9.360 (61) Tufts (NESCAC)   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
11.    9.346 (63) Western New England (GNAC)   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
12.    9.292 (67) Babson (NEWMAC)   0.625 (15-9)   16-9
13.    9.250 (69) Bridgewater State (MASCAC)   0.708 (17-7)   17-7
14.    9.190 (72) Colby (NESCAC)   0.667 (14-7)   15-10
15.    8.870 (95) Gordon (CCC)   0.696 (16-7)   19-7
16.    8.800 (97) Elms (NAC)   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
17.    8.800 (98) Lasell (NAC)   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
18.    8.720 (103) Endicott (CCC)   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
19.   8.696 (108) Williams (NESCAC)   0.565 (13-10)   14-11
20.   8.600 (114) Middlebury (NESCAC)   0.600 (15-10)   15-10

East Region (Region rank, QOWI, Overall rank, Team, Conference, Region win pct., Region record, Overall record)
1.    10.400 (10) Brockport State (SUNYAC)   0.840 (21-4)   22-4
2.    10.292 (15) St. Lawrence (LL)   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
3.    10.217 (19) Rochester (UAA)   0.739 (17-6)   17-7
4.    10.208 (21) St. John Fisher (E8)   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
5.     9.870 (38) New York University (UAA)   0.783 (18-5)   19-5
6.     9.762 (46) Hamilton (LL)   0.714 (15-6)   18-6
7.     9.348 (62) Utica (E8)   0.739 (17-6)   18-6
8.     9.190 (71) Plattsburgh State (SUNYAC)   0.714 (15-6)   18-8
9.     8.727 (101) Vassar (LL)   0.636 (14-8)   15-9
10.   8.696 (107) Oswego State (SUNYAC)   0.609 (14-9)   15-11
11.   8.680 (111) Clarkson (LL)   0.560 (14-11)   14-11
12.   8.667 (113) Geneseo State (SUNYAC)   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
13.    8.522 (117) Rochester Tech (E8)   0.565 (13-10)   14-11
14.    8.429 (125) Ithaca (E8)  0.571 (12-9)   14-11
15.    8.391 (127) SUNYIT (SUNYAC)   0.609 (14-9)   16-10
16.    7.917 (160) RPI (LL)   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
17.    7.857 (169) Union (LL)   0.524 (11-10)   11-13
18.    7.773 (174) Alfred (E8)  0.455 (10-12)   10-14
19. 7.727 (178) Buffalo State (SUNYAC)   0.455 (10-12)   12-13
20. 7.708 (181) Hobart (LL)   0.417 (10-14)   11-14

Here are the combined regional rankings based on QOWI. In the event of a tie, and there are a few, I ranked the teams in order of their overall rank.

Combined Regions (Northeast and East)
1. (NE1)   11.625 (1) Amherst (NESCAC)   0.958 (23-1)   24-1
2. (NE2)   10.950 (3) Trinity (Conn.) (NESCAC)   0.850 (17-3)   21-3
3. (NE3)   10.810 (4) Worcester Polytech (NEWMAC)   0.905 (19-2)   21-2
4. (NE4)   10.708 (5) Salem State (MASCAC)   0.920 (23-2)   23-2
5. (NE5)   10.520 (8) Rhode Island College (LEC)   0.880 (22-3)   22-3
6. (E1)   10.400 (10) Brockport State (SUNYAC)   0.840 (21-4)   22-4
7. (E2)   10.292 (15) St. Lawrence (LL)   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
8. (E3)   10.217 (19) Rochester (UAA)   0.739 (17-6)   17-7
tie (NE6)   10.217 (20) Keene State (LEC)   0.826 (19-4)   22-4
10. (E4)    10.208 (21) St. John Fisher (E8)   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
11. (NE7)    10.125 (25) Brandeis (UAA)   0.750 (18-6)   18-6
12. (E5)     9.870 (38) New York University (UAA)   0.783 (18-5)   19-5
13. (NE8)    9.792 (42) Bates (NESCAC)   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
14. (E6)     9.762 (46) Hamilton (LL)   0.714 (15-6)   18-6
15. (NE9)    9.708 (49) Husson (NAC)   0.875 (21-3)   21-5
16. (NE10)    9.360 (61) Tufts (NESCAC)   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
17. (E7)      9.348 (62) Utica (E8)   0.739 (17-6)   18-6
18. (NE11)   9.346 (63) Western New England (GNAC)   0.731 (19-7)   19-7
19. (NE12)    9.292 (67) Babson (NEWMAC)   0.625 (15-9)   16-9
20. (NE13)    9.250 (69) Bridgewater State (MASCAC)   0.708 (17-7)   17-7
21. (E8)        9.190 (71) Plattsburgh State (SUNYAC)   0.714 (15-6)   18-8
tie (NE14)    9.190 (72) Colby (NESCAC)   0.667 (14-7)   15-10
23. (NE15)    8.870 (95) Gordon (CCC)   0.696 (16-7)   19-7
24. (NE16)    8.800 (97) Elms (NAC)   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
tie (NE17)    8.800 (98) Lasell (NAC)   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
26. (E9)        8.727 (101) Vassar (LL)   0.636 (14-8)   15-9
27. (NE18)    8.720 (103) Endicott (CCC)   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
28. (E10)      8.696 (107) Oswego State (SUNYAC)   0.609 (14-9)   15-11
tie (NE19)      8.696 (108) Williams (NESCAC)   0.565 (13-10)   14-11
30. (E11)      8.680 (111) Clarkson (LL)   0.560 (14-11)   14-11
31. (E12)       8.667 (113) Geneseo State (SUNYAC)   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
32. (NE20)   8.600 (114) Middlebury (NESCAC)   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
33. (E13)       8.522 (117) Rochester Tech (E8)   0.565 (13-10)   14-11
34. (E14)       8.429 (125) Ithaca (E8)  0.571 (12-9)   14-11
35. (E15)       8.391 (127) SUNYIT (SUNYAC)   0.609 (14-9)   16-10
36. (E16)       7.917 (160) RPI (LL)   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
37. (E17)       7.857 (169) Union (LL)   0.524 (11-10)   11-13
38. (E18)       7.773 (174) Alfred (E8)  0.455 (10-12)   10-14
39. (E19)      7.727 (178) Buffalo State (SUNYAC)   0.455 (10-12)   12-13
40. (E20)      7.708 (181) Hobart (LL)   0.417 (10-14)   11-14

I know some of these teams will get their conference bids, but there are plenty for Pool C too.

Anyone have any thoughts about Pool C bids after seeing this?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2007, 02:51:36 AM
Well, first thought is it doesn't make much sense to take 20 teams from the 69-team Northeast and 20 from the 35-team East. To represent the two proportionally you need to take half as many from the East.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: rjcarter8 on February 22, 2007, 07:42:41 AM
Sorry, I was under the impression the Northeast and East teams would be vying for the same bids, so I just sorted the teams by QOWI.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: b4the3isme on February 22, 2007, 03:08:24 PM
Well I thinks its pretty evident that the only way the SUNYAC is a 2 conference bid league is if a team other than Brockport wins.  That being said I think the conference might have a legit shot to get 3 or 4 teams into the ECAC. Platt and SUNYIT are locks I would think. Oswego & Geneseo may have shots also.  The liberty league will probably be ticked though as its 7th place team (Clarkson) beat Oswego and they'll be lucky to get 2 teams in. RPI & Union swept the series from Clarkson but records of 13-12 and 11-13 aren't too gaudy even though both teams might be better than Oswego & Geneseo?! Hamilton will be a lock if it doesn't win the LL tourny and get into the NCAA.  SLU looks like it has a shot at being a pool C team but would be a lock if it does not go to the NCAA's.  Vassar the 3rd place LL places in the Metro Tourney.  E8 teams Utica, RIT and Ithaca have to be considered, but again RIT has losses to Clarkson and SLU and Utica has a loss to Clarkson.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: rjcarter8 on February 22, 2007, 03:39:04 PM
Quote from: b4the3isme on February 22, 2007, 03:08:24 PM
Well I thinks its pretty evident that the only way the SUNYAC is a 2 conference bid league is if a team other than Brockport wins.  That being said I think the conference might have a legit shot to get 3 or 4 teams into the ECAC. Platt and SUNYIT are locks I would think. Oswego & Geneseo may have shots also.  The liberty league will probably be ticked though as its 7th place team (Clarkson) beat Oswego and they'll be lucky to get 2 teams in. RPI & Union swept the series from Clarkson but records of 13-12 and 11-13 aren't too gaudy even though both teams might be better than Oswego & Geneseo?! Hamilton will be a lock if it doesn't win the LL tourny and get into the NCAA.  SLU looks like it has a shot at being a pool C team but would be a lock if it does not go to the NCAA's.  Vassar the 3rd place LL places in the Metro Tourney.  E8 teams Utica, RIT and Ithaca have to be considered, but again RIT has losses to Clarkson and SLU and Utica has a loss to Clarkson.

Actually, Hamilton doesn't play in the ECACs, something to do with their NESCAC ties.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2007, 09:09:12 AM
SLU the last couple of years has had a record good enough to play ECAC's but they've passed as it coincides with their spring break.

If they don't make NCAA's as a Pool C, I'd wonder if they would do ECAC's either.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: b4the3isme on February 23, 2007, 05:46:39 PM
Wow- idk that Hamilton turns down ECAC bids, but I guess it makes sense because I think U of R does for the same reason.  If SLU doesn't get a pool C bid or win the Tourney outright and they decline a ECAC bid, the SUNYAC should put 3 or 4 teams in the ECAC for sure.  Heck RPI, Union and may be even Clarkson could be considered although a sub .500 record by Union doesn't look to good and Clarkson's league record of 5-9 is pretty bad also.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2007, 08:15:01 PM
Plattsburgh moves into final with 89-73 dispatching of Oswego in opener of tourney semis at Bport. Cards with upper hand till OSt takes 62-61 lead at 10:37. Burgh in 9-0 run as part of 19-4 separation and command at 2:41. T. Gorham 30 pts, A. Williams 23, K. Hunt 21. Lakers E. Roberson 25, T. Downing 13, M. Burridge 10
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2007, 10:08:44 PM
Brockport moves into finals berth by outgunnng SUNYIT 104-89. Bench scoring: Eagles 47, IT 2. Bport starts fast, holds 51-51 lead at half. Makes 34x55fg, 23x34ft, 13x23 3s. Has 45-25 reb margin. A. Poles 24 pts(7x9fg, 6x8 3s; B. Williams 18 pts(7x12fg); Sherod Harris 16 pts(4x8fg, 2x6 3s), 9 assts; M. Wilkes 16 pts(5x9fg, 3x6 3s), 4 assts, 7 rebs; D. Maldonado 11 pts(4x5fg, 2x3 3s) in 14'. IT's C. Reaves 24 pts(11x20fg, 2x8 3s), 3 assts; C. LaBoard 24 pts(7x16fg), 4 stls, 6 assts in 40'; A. Gilkes 17 pts(8x13fg), 6 rebs; E. Belone 16 pts(5x14fg, 2x8 3s). Cats 34x73fg, 14x19ft, 7x27 3s. IT 9 trnvrs, Port 22
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 23, 2007, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: b4the3isme on February 23, 2007, 05:46:39 PM
Wow- idk that Hamilton turns down ECAC bids, but I guess it makes sense because I think U of R does for the same reason.  If SLU doesn't get a pool C bid or win the Tourney outright and they decline a ECAC bid, the SUNYAC should put 3 or 4 teams in the ECAC for sure.  Heck RPI, Union and may be even Clarkson could be considered although a sub .500 record by Union doesn't look to good and Clarkson's league record of 5-9 is pretty bad also.

It's my understanding that a team must be .500 overall or better to be considered for ECACs, which throws out Union and Hobart.  Here's my guess at the field right now, also assuming that both Hamilton and St. Lawrence decline invites:

Plattsburgh, Oswego, SUNYIT and Geneseo from the SUNYAC; Utica, Ithaca and RIT from the E8; Vassar from the LL.  If P'burgh and/or Utica wind up in the NCAA Tournament the next group of candidates would be RPI, Clarkson and Hilbert of the AMCC...I actually just assume that Hilbert is an ECAC member b/c they're in the East region.  They might not be.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 24, 2007, 08:35:13 AM
Plattsburgh - Brockport, should be a good game... last one was 74-72 on 12/1 in PLattsburgh.   I think Brockport wins again... but by a larger margin, as they are a team that has grown as the season went on.

Anyone be at the game? We may drive into attend...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2007, 09:22:15 AM
Bob,
Great choice of words, as in grown. Five games into the season and along come 6-7 Cantrel Parrish and 16ppg Sherod Harris. We're just crunching a few numbers here. Heck, a few numbers? This Bport outfit plays in waves. And give 'em credit, they appear to an outsider to get along and mesh well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2007, 04:40:21 PM
Plattsburgh through 20' with 32-24 lead. As much as 11 pt. difference. Pburgh and Bports each with 13 trnvrs. Burgh 14x32fg, Port 10x33. Cards with 2 3s, Port 1. A. Williams 10 pts for PB, B. Williams 10 for BP. Sherod Harris limited to 8' with 2pf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 24, 2007, 05:46:50 PM
Plattsburgh wins SUNYAC Championship, and will gain the pool A bid... 80-75 Plattsburgh... Bubble buster anyone?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2007, 07:23:23 PM
Ahhhh ,  just what NCAA desires!

Plattsburgh trails this for a short spell in second half, then flexes muscle.
A. Williams 28 pts(11x26fg), 5 assts, 9 rebs; T. Gorham 12 pts(5x11fg); M. Dietz 12 pts(4x7fg, 3x6 3s); K. Hunt 11 pts(5x9fg), 10 rebs; A. Miller 6 stls. Burghs 34x55fg, 23x34ft, 13x23 3s, 45-25 reb gap, 9 trnvrs to Port's 22. Cards bench 22, Eagles' 4 after Bport 47-2 bench margin vs. IT. Port 34x73fg, 14x19ft, 7x27 3s. Sherod Harris goes second half route, finishes 31 pts(10x16fg, 7x9 3s). B. Williams 19 pts(9x16fg), 17 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 26, 2007, 08:25:31 AM
Disappointment... really thought Brockport was on a roll.  Guess Plattsburgh felt otherwise.

Congratulations to Plattsburgh on a well played game.

Hopefully Brockport will still get an at large bid and SUNYAC will have two teams in the tournament.

When do they come out?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 26, 2007, 08:29:52 AM
Last night, Bob.  You have been spending too much time building a group of baseball fans!   ;) :) :D

Brockport did get a Pool C bid.  See front page.  Pairings in the brackets come out about 9 am EST.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
Brockport will be playing Williams.  St. Lawrence will be hosting the first and second rounds.  I am slightly surprised given the thrashing Brockport gave them earlier in the year, but St. Lawrence did win their conference and that would probably be the difference...Unless there is some other hosting issue?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on February 26, 2007, 09:46:04 AM
Quote from: pg04 on February 26, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
Brockport will be playing Williams.  St. Lawrence will be hosting the first and second rounds.  I am slightly surprised given the thrashing Brockport gave them earlier in the year, but St. Lawrence did win their conference and that would probably be the difference...Unless there is some other hosting issue?

No hosting issue.  It appears the loss in the SUNYAC final cost at least two home games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on February 26, 2007, 10:13:19 AM
That loss for bport was very costly, lost home court advantage through the second round and have been matched with Williams in the first round, ouch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 26, 2007, 10:37:56 AM
Thanks Ralph...  thought it was eitehr last night, or today as they have to get the travle plans in order... 

Yes, I've gained at least one good baseball fan, haven't I?   :o

Yes, that loss cost them home court... but that is why we play the games.  To see what will happen.  Will be fun to watch unfold.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 26, 2007, 12:54:35 PM
Very interesting subplots with the games at SLU. Brockport plays Williams which beat the Golden Eagles in the Sweet 16 the last time either team was in the NCAA tourney. I would expect a really high scoring game. Dave Paulsen, visits his old stomping ground in Larryland and could end up playing his old assistant, Chris Downs. And Brockport could potentially play a home and home with the Saints.

I am pretty sure that Whitmore is not happy about heading up to the North Country. Not a wonderful trip especially this time of year.

Plattsburgh gets a tough draw with Rochester, but that should be a battle. It will definitely be an interesting game to watch. It might your prototypical NCAA tourney game in the 50s. Whoever wins that game, I believe, will get to the Sweet 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 27, 2007, 09:05:14 AM
First Team: A. Williams(Plat), C. Reaves(IT), Sherod Harris(Bkp), B. Williams(Bkp), C. LaBoard(IT)

Second: S. Morton(Gen), T. Gorham(Plat), M. Burridge(Osw), A. Foluke-Henderson(NP), T. Franze(Osw)

HM: W. Heslin(One), D. Maggiacomo(Cort), T. Reinhardt(Pot), E. Roberson(Osw), J. Hauser(NP)

Top player: A. Williams
Top rook: C. Parrish(Bkp)
Coach: Curle(Plat)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on February 27, 2007, 09:44:23 AM
Predictions for this wkend:
1st Round:

Fisher +11

UofR +7

St. Lawrence +4

Bport +2

Wooster  +7

Centre + 4

John Carrol +6

2nd round:

Fisher vsUofR  - Fisher +1

Bport Vs St. Lawrence - Bport +2

Wooster vs Centre - Wooster+5

lake Erie vs John Carrol - Lake Eirre +4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 28, 2007, 11:55:06 PM
Oswego beat RIT and SUNYIT dropped Clarkson in the ECACs tonight....Lakers vs. Wildcats in one semi at Vassar on Friday; the other is Vassar (beat Hilbert) vs. Ithaca (beat RPI).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 01, 2007, 12:32:26 AM
Oswego 74, RIT 63. Lakers hold 38-26 lead at half; narrows to 45-44 prior to 16-6 runout. Sixth man K. Reuter 21 pts(6x15fg, 3x8 3s); M. Burridge 16 pts(7x10fg), 8 rebs; T. Downing 14 pts(4x13fg), 6 assts. OSt 24x63fg, 19x31ft to RIT 13x28. Victims 51-38 reb separation. Go 24x63fg. T. Bacon 25 pts(11x16fg), 14 rebs; S. Young 17 pts; C. Roy 6 assts

SUNYIT 96, Clarkson 84
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 01, 2007, 03:36:54 PM
Way to go SUNYAC's, hopefully sunyacs can keep flexing there muscles tomorrow night!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2007, 08:45:24 PM
Would love nothing better than to see a Brockport-Plattsburgh rematch in the sweet 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 02, 2007, 12:52:14 AM
Hello SUNYAC peoples, we're collecting previews for each team in the tourney on one of the multiregional boards. If I get them by Friday I may even be able to stick them in one document for people to peruse. A fun little tourney resource of sorts. Would someone here be willing to do one for Brockport State and Plattsburgh State? Thanks much!

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2007, 07:44:44 PM
Say what you want about my beloved SUNYAC, but tonite, Brockport recorded a neutral court win (74-66) over the NESCAC Champion Williams, and Plattsburgh came from 15 down in the seond half to squeak out a 61-60 win in Rochester over UAA power University of Rochester.

Be interested in Pat C's reaction to a "weak" conference posting not one but two wins over "power" conferences.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 02, 2007, 07:45:25 PM
Brockport wins 74-66 and Plattsburgh hits a shot at the buzzer to beat U OF R 61-60. Good night for the SUNYAC!! 

So much for your UR/WIlliams matchup in the sweet 16 eh Pat  ;).  I'm just kidding...I had to stick the jab in... Don't worry I've gotten plenty of my picks wrong as well lol. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2007, 07:55:37 PM
Profile

Brockport

24-5, 14-2 conference

Depth, Depth, Depth.  Their second five could start for most D-III teams.  They routinely have four or 5 in doubles, and at least 8 players on the roster are capable of doubles an any given night

Starters

Sherod Harris - 5-9, JUCO from Monroe CC.  If he was 6-1, he'd be playing high D-I.  Can dominate a game on defense, offense, and especially in transition

Mychal Wilkes - 5-11 So.  Deadly shooter, draws tough defensive assignment, hard nose, in your face.

Brandon Williams - 6-2 220 - the SUNYAC's version of Charles Barkley.  Can shoot from the outside, and uses his strength and athleticism to dominate in the paint.  Runs very well for his size.

Cantrel Parish - 6-7 Freshman - long and athletic.  Wonder how s mid-major missed this guy.  he can shoot, run, and especially rebound.

Aaron Poles - 5-10 Jr. G, unselfish, role player, does what it takes to win.

This team can beat you any way you want.  If it's a track meet, they can run with anyone.  In halfcourt, they have great athletes who are all strong, quick, and competitive.

Very deep bench.  As I said their second five could start at a lot of D-III Schools.

They beat SLU by 30 earlier this season.  Only an upset in the SUNYAC tournament kept them from hosting the Rochester area pod in the NCAA's.

Hopefully SLU will pay attention to business tonite vs. Elms instead of looking ahead to Brockport.  

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 02, 2007, 08:50:15 PM
Thanks thebear! :)

Incidentally, I am famous for not liking Rochester (I just thought one Rochester team was overrated and it got out of hand and exaggerated, but at this point it's way too funny to let go... :D ). Soo.... Go Brockport! ;D ;)

Must have been one heck of a game...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2007, 09:03:13 PM
Anthony Williams hits a 40' shot at the buzzer to give the Plattsburgh State Cardinals a 61-60 win over Univ. of Rochester. The Cards came back from a 15 pt. deficit with 10 min. to go. Down 53-38 they go on a 9-0 run to get within 6 at 53-47. UofR scores twice to go back up by 10 with 5min to play. But the Cards come  back again to get within 2 setting the stage for Williams heroics. UofR missed a couple of key FT's that could have made it a 2 possession game with less than 30 secs. remaining.  Williams showed why he was the SUNYAC POY with 28 pts. 3 3's and a perfect 7 for 7 from the line. Travis Gorham added 14 pts and 13 reboundsfor the Cards.
UofR was led by Jon Onyiriuka with 15 pts, Uche Ndubizu with 11 and Rob Dominiak also had 11.

St John Fisher leads Wentworth 51-34 at the half. Looks like it might be the Cardinals playing the Cardinals tomorrow nite to get to the sweet 16. Too bad Plattsburgh has to play on their court.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: supernvstr on March 03, 2007, 12:25:12 PM
For all those Plattsburgh fans out there...

Plattsburgh vs. St. John Fisher can be heard LIVE tonight at 7pm...
Go to http://athletics.sjfc.edu/  then click on LISTEN LIVE
from there navigate to CLICK HERE TO CONTINUE and you should be all set.


If that does not work...
www.teamline.cc
type in St. John Fisher
then navigate to Men's Basketball

Thanks, and hope you can tune in!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on March 03, 2007, 01:30:10 PM
Superb win for the Eagles. Solid D, patient half court game, and transition when available. And Williams was no slouch. Game in on a 5 game streak including huge win over Amherst. Like every Paulsen coached team they defended for the full 35, great ball movement on offense - intensity on both ends of the court. Drained big 3s for a modest lead at the half. Difference was eagles depth and unselfish play. Brandon Williams was amazing in the post, consistently knocking down little jump hooks with either hand. Maldonado contributed a first half 5 point run to end a Willaims rally. Sherod Harris did what he does..."What are you doing?...Oh, great play." Parish again solid, particularly for a frosh. Ian Mack turned in solid minutes at the point and Jermaine Johnson blew people away with his ups.

Kudos to Whitmore. Nice adjustments at the half provide better perimiter defense. Also kudos to the merry band of  weak-whistled refs who shall remain nameless to protect the inept. Never before have I seen a ref refuse to use a visible 5 second closely guarded count. After much prompting from the bench and fans, whistles became audible and the 5 count was reinstated. Well, there are lots of rules and, for some, its clearly hard to remember them all.

St. Lawrence/Elms a snooze. Larries are not particularly quick, Elms even less so, and crash in the 1st round again.

Luck to Eagles and Cards tonight. They'll need it playing in 2 venues famous for homers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 03, 2007, 08:07:06 PM
Either the Announcers are whining incessently for no reason, or the refs are trying to perform a miracle for the saints.   According to the announcers the home crowd isn't too sportsmanlike either...

42-35 Eagles about 13 mins left in 2nd half. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 03, 2007, 08:14:03 PM
Brockport pulling away a little bit, 52-38 with about 9 mins left. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 03, 2007, 08:19:21 PM
The wheels have fallen off really... 61-41 Brockport under 8 minutes left. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 03, 2007, 08:32:11 PM
Final:

Brockport   74
St. Lawrence 49

Brockport faces Fisher/ Cardinal winner
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: blindwatchmaker on March 03, 2007, 10:39:46 PM
So who do you think will host between SJF, Brockport, JCU and Wooster?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bjgiants6 on March 03, 2007, 10:42:53 PM
My guess, Wooster.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2007, 12:14:52 AM
Wooster would also be my guess.  It should really be that way anyway but the way they set up the bracket I'm not too sure...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on March 04, 2007, 03:32:42 AM
Fisher should host, #1 seed in the east. #1 seed in great lakes lost.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2007, 12:44:22 PM
Yes, but Lake Erie only got the bye because they couldn't host two rounds of basketball... Wooster is the #2 team in the nation, by all rights they should host in my Opinion. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 04, 2007, 01:32:42 PM
The games should be in Wooster. They have been ranked high all year long and there is no reason why they wouldn't host. They have a nice facility and a quality fanbase. I couldn't imagine the disappointment opposing teams would have if they walked into Fisher's gym.  I guess they just announced Fisher will host the game, which is better off for Brockport considering its 20 minutes down the road.

Congrats to the Golden Eagles, I think it might be a Whitmore rule, "If you make the NCAAs, you have to go the Sweet 16." Everyone of his teams that have made the tourney have gotten to the round of 16. I really hope they pound Fisher. Should be interesting with neutral court referees on that game. Will they call a lot of fouls because of Brockport's physical nature?

Regardless, good luck Golden Eagles, make a statement.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ksc218 on March 04, 2007, 01:39:07 PM
games are at fisher according http://athletics.sjfc.edu/index.asp?path=mbball (http://athletics.sjfc.edu/index.asp?path=mbball)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on March 04, 2007, 01:39:23 PM
D3hoops.com Top 25 has no bearing on who will host sectionals or who the NCAA has seeded higher.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2007, 01:42:18 PM
John,

We know this---, but we are stating that there is such a desparity in the poll between Wooster and the other 3 teams (Ie none of the other 3 teams are IN the poll) that it almost seems like Wooster HAS to be the best team (Even Massey has them 2)...unless all the D3hoops voters are unreliable. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 04, 2007, 01:46:54 PM
Another thing could be that Wooster just has so much respect from the people that vote for D3hoops because of their program that they are continually voted high. The people that vote usually don't regard the East Region very high so it is actually funny that the NCAA ruled Fisher as the host.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
Seeding wise, I guess it makes sense. 

Lake Erie was "The Number 1 seed" of the region, getting the bye.  Even had they won their game their Gym isn't big enough to host and hence I think Fisher was destined to host from the beginning.

As Fisher Dynasty said on another page... This automatically means Fisher is on the way to the final 4...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 04, 2007, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
As Fisher Dynasty said on another page... This automatically means Fisher is on the way to the final 4...

Not so fast my friend....a team called Wooster may have something to say about that point.  :) :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2007, 01:56:31 PM
To the hosting team does not always go the spoils, as I have seen first hand, and many teams have seen in recent history. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 04, 2007, 02:36:27 PM
Good Luck to the Brockport Team.   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 04, 2007, 05:33:49 PM
The bottom line is fisher and bport both had very good seasons and i believe they are both 24-5? I cant complain that fisher got to host due to there record but there gym is another story. It might be a great place to play but to watch a game there is horrible. First off there is no parking, it is also a very small gym with a bad layout. You can sit in the stands and cant even see the sideline in front of you. Brockport has already gone into there house and come away with a W this year, and that was without parish and harris. Fisher got there revenge in the chase with a w over bport. Like the fisher coach said they have to play a game just like sat game to beat bport, i believe they shot about 65% from the field. Brockport has a huge advantage over fisher in the backcourt and overall has a more talented team. The game bport won at fisher bport lead almost the entire game and much of that was by double digits. The game fisher won was back and fourth and bport played pretty bad and still had a good chance to win.    Bport 79 fisher 70
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 04, 2007, 05:48:38 PM
Having seen both teams (SJF and BPORT) play against Plattsbugh within a two week period.

I agree with the SJF coach, SJF has to shoot over 50% to beat BPort unless BPort plays
terrible.   Bridgeport is quicker and in my opinion more athletic.   Sherrod Harris will score
at least 30 points.  SJF couldn't handle Anthony #11 on PBurgh and he didn't shoot 3 pts that
well on Saturday.  Harris single-handedly almost brought BPort back in the SUNYAC Championship
game.    I hope both teams play at full strength and get better officiating (more consistant and understandable calls)
than what was seen on Saturday's Round 2 game.    Bad for both teams and when the whistle was blown
it usually had everyone pausing to figure out what the call would be.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on March 04, 2007, 05:52:35 PM
If Brockport beats SJF, would the BPort people fill the gym Saturday, or would Fisher's absence make it easier to get tickets for Saturday?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 04, 2007, 06:08:47 PM
Going by my experience this week.   IF you are a support of the teams other than SJF and Fisher you better get there early on both days.   Unless they (NCAA and Fisher) follow through on reserving a group of tickets for ALL the schools, there is no-way that little gym holds enough to handle Brockport and Fisher fans who show up for the early game AND has room for the other schools. 

I hear all these stories about how SJF fills the gym during the season, and this is NCAA playoffs.  One would assume they could fill it now.   And Brockport had a very good crowd at there on-campus gym for the SUNYAC final game.
If half of that crowd shows up and only half of the SJF regulars show up, the SJF gym is full.   

The Rochester War Memorial may be free this coming weekend.  The High School State qualifier games have been moved out of there due to the big fight last night.    Nahhh, that would never happen, that would be too good of a solution.  A what, 10,000 seat arena with parking and concessions mid-way (almost  ;D) between two of the participating schools.   Near hotels.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 12:40:49 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on March 04, 2007, 01:46:54 PM
Another thing could be that Wooster just has so much respect from the people that vote for D3hoops because of their program that they are continually voted high. The people that vote usually don't regard the East Region very high so it is actually funny that the NCAA ruled Fisher as the host.

The NCAA seedings never correlate with our rankings. The rankings are more accurate, though. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 05, 2007, 12:52:36 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on March 04, 2007, 06:08:47 PM

I hear all these stories about how SJF fills the gym during the season, and this is NCAA playoffs.  One would assume they could fill it now.   
That seems to be all they are is 'stories'.  Judging from their attendance figures, Fisher is averaging less than 600 per game.  You'd think, seeing as 'this is the NCAA playoffs' you'd see better turnout???  Nope!  Listed attendance over both NCAA home games for Fisher over the weekend:  650 for both games?!  That's barely 50% capacity!  Compare that to Wooster's attendance over the weekend:  3,038 Friday night and 3,207 Saturday night and they averaged over 2,000 per game throughout the regular season. 

The bottom line is that the NCAA really dropped the ball on this one!  Rewarding a team to host a sectional that can't even sell out a puny little 1200 seat gym in the NCAA tournament?!  Now, we as fans of the other schools involved in this sectional are rewarded with the possibility of not even having the opportunity to watch a game live because the games are being played in such a puny little gym and there might not be enough tickets to go around?! ???  Fisher needs to do the smart thing and clear the gym between sessions on Friday night!  They wanted the host, now they need to take responsibility and do the right thing even if it involves a little more work on their part!!!


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on March 05, 2007, 12:57:41 PM
ScotsFan i wouldnt worry about the gym being sold out, im sure there will be hundreds not getting into either game on friday and saturday.  The majority of the reason why the reg seasons dont get sold out is because the other e8 schools dont bring any fans in.  Last weekend fishers students were on break and neither team fisher played brought anyone and the gym was still full.  If you are smart you will get there early for the games this wkend and when you do play fisher get there over an hour early.  As Wooster, JCU and bport will all bring fans, its going to be a shame to watch all the people get rejected at the door.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 05, 2007, 01:01:22 PM
There were more people at the U of R / Plattsburgh game than the other two.   Half the crowd left after the first game (U of R fans, students, pep band ...).       Clear the gym between games.    :D ::) :D   I don't see that occurring.
Especially if the weather is cold/snowy etc.   There is no place to herd the crowd out easily.    If other places are charging separately for both Friday games then wow, what a deal people got at SJF last Friday.  1 point buzzer beater game and a blow out by the home/host team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 05, 2007, 12:52:36 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on March 04, 2007, 06:08:47 PM

I hear all these stories about how SJF fills the gym during the season, and this is NCAA playoffs.  One would assume they could fill it now.   
That seems to be all they are is 'stories'.  Judging from their attendance figures, Fisher is averaging less than 600 per game.  You'd think, seeing as 'this is the NCAA playoffs' you'd see better turnout???  Nope!  Listed attendance over both NCAA home games for Fisher over the weekend:  650 for both games?!  That's barely 50% capacity!  Compare that to Wooster's attendance over the weekend:  3,038 Friday night and 3,207 Saturday night and they averaged over 2,000 per game throughout the regular season. 

The bottom line is that the NCAA really dropped the ball on this one!  Rewarding a team to host a sectional that can't even sell out a puny little 1200 seat gym in the NCAA tournament?!  Now, we as fans of the other schools involved in this sectional are rewarded with the possibility of not even having the opportunity to watch a game live because the games are being played in such a puny little gym and there might not be enough tickets to go around?! ???  Fisher needs to do the smart thing and clear the gym between sessions on Friday night!  They wanted the host, now they need to take responsibility and do the right thing even if it involves a little more work on their part!!!

Fanbase is not one of the criteria. Never has been -- ask the Hope and Calvin fans who went to higher seeded Aurora last week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 05, 2007, 01:11:11 PM
"...Last weekend fishers students were on break and neither team fisher played brought anyone and the gym was still full..."  

That gym was NOT full either day.    Plattsburgh had close to 70 people on Friday, less on Saturday.   There were more assistant coaches on Fisher than fans from Wentworth. ;D   The U of R pep band took up double the space (15-20 members using two or three seats to setup and hold coats).    Down on the court level on Saturday most of the seats on the lobby side were not filled to capacity.  The first row across that entire side is always empty from what I understand.     IF all the seats that are in the arena are not used the host shouldn't be counting them toward the arena capacity figures.    No way under the configuation I saw does that little place hold over 1000.

If Brockport can bring the student section they had at the SUNYAC championship game, THEN the place might come close to being full.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on March 05, 2007, 01:14:34 PM
The place is going to be sold out guaranteed, probably for both games seeing that Wooster brings fans, and i can guarantee Bport will bring more people then Pburg and wentworth. Also, more fisher students will be back from break. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 05, 2007, 01:19:01 PM
My only thinking in regards to Fisher hosting is that the NCAA doesn't look into seating capacity as much as it use to. In years past that was the case. In all my years involved in some capacity in D3, that is my only thinking. Could be in part because of the enormous tv contract the NCAA has with CBS, they don't worry about the revenue brought from D3 contests. Not that it was much to begin with anyway.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on March 05, 2007, 01:20:33 PM
Fanbase is one of the criteria, although it is a low priority and may never actually come into play:

Quote from: Men's Championship Handbook, page 7, emphasis addedSite Selection
The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
3. Seeding; and
4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 05, 2007, 02:02:13 PM
""..i can guarantee Bport will bring more people then Pburg and wentworth.  "

You have a great grasp of the obvious  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: diehardfan on March 05, 2007, 03:11:10 PM
Hey guys, I just thought I'd pop in to let you know about a little project we did. A group of around 40 posters banded together and created a Unofficial Guide to the 2006-2007 NCAA Tourney, that contains a team-by-team breakdown of the teams in the tournament. This is especially cool given the fact that the official NCAA guide gives you very little insight into the teams, and nearly all of the previews in the Unofficial Guide were made by fans of the team.

The website is: http://wheatonhoops.googlepages.com/ncaatourney and on that website you can find browsable information, as well as a 19 page printable PDF document. This was updated as of this morning.

While I doubt that we'll ever get any posters to submit information for the 11 teams that did not submit previews, it does include previews from 48 of the 59 teams in the tournament, and all of the teams in the Sweet Sixteen. I hope you check it out and enjoy the content!

If there are any corrections or content additions you would like to me, please submit them to me by PM. Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 05, 2007, 04:08:13 PM
The St. John Fisher College Cardinals will host the NCAA Division III Championship Sectional semifinals and finals this Friday, March 9 and Saturday, March 10.  On Friday night the College of Wooster Fighting Scots (27-3) will take on the John Carroll Blue Streaks (21-9) at 6 p.m. and the Cardinals (24-5) will face off against the SUNY Brockport Golden Eagles (24-5) at 8 p.m.  The winner of each game will play Saturday night at 7 p.m..

Tickets are general admission at the following prices:
$7 for adults
$4 for senior citizens/students with ID/children
Children under 2 are free

Presale tickets will be available Tuesday, March 6 from 12 p.m. – 3 p.m. and Wednesday, March 7 from 12 p.m. – 3 p.m. in the Athletic Department main office in the Student Life Center.  Presale tickets are for Friday night only, and separate tickets must be purchased for the 6 p.m. and 8 p.m. games. Tickets for Saturday's games will go on sale Saturday night at 6 p.m.   Coach McCabe who handles facility concerns  585-385-8312  or  585-385-5223
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 05, 2007, 04:09:59 PM
It doesn't say if you can CALL to reserve pre-sale tickets.  I would assume because they gave specific times and said "at the athletic offices" that would mean you need to do that in-person.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2007, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 05, 2007, 01:20:33 PM
Fanbase is one of the criteria, although it is a low priority and may never actually come into play:

Quote from: Men's Championship Handbook, page 7, emphasis addedSite Selection
The Championships Committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
2. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
3. Seeding; and
4. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.
If you can name an instance in which this has come into play recently, let me know. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on March 05, 2007, 07:22:51 PM
What can I say; I'm a lawyer, I think like a lawyer. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 06, 2007, 03:25:38 PM
Here are some interesting career moves that I can trace

Tim Welsh    Potsdam
       assistant under his Dad Jerry Welsh
       assistant and later Head at Iona  Div I
       Head coach at Providence  Div I

Mike Deane  Potsdam  1974     All American  many time SUNYAC 1st team
       assistant at Potsdam  1974
       assistant at Plattsburgh  1975-76  when they went to the final 4
       Head at Delhi Tech
       Head at Oswego State
       Head at Siena   Div I        1st NCAA bid for this school
       Head at Marquette  Div I  NCAA and NIT appearances
       Head at Lamar    Div I
       Head at Wagner   Div I

Dan Theiss   Plattsburgh  1981
       played for Norm Law at PSUC and Mike Deane at Delhi Tech
       assistant at Plattsburgh
       assistant at Univ of Vermont
       assistant at Siena  with M. Deane
       assistant at Marquette with  K. O'Neal and Mike Deane (appears in movie Hoop Dreams ;D)
       assistant at Lamar with M.Deane
       assistant at Rhode Island

Steve Holmes   Plattsburgh  1983
       assistant at ???
       Head at Geneseo   ( 2 SUNYAC Championships)
       Head at Salisbury State

Tom Clune    Plattsburgh  1982
       played on same team as Steve Holmes and Jeff Law
       assistant at Geneseo under Tom Pope
       Head at Post (CT)
       Head at Utica
       Head at Plattsburgh St   ( 2 SUNYAC championships) 

Jeff Law  Plattsburgh 1985     
       played for his dad, Norm Law  on same team with Clune and Holmes ( I think)
       assistant at Hawaii   under
       Head at Hawaii Hilo  Div II

Norm Law - Brockport 1960   Hall of Fame there
       Head at Plattsburgh   ( 2 SUNYAC championships, 1 NCAA final four; 3 ECAC visits)
       Assistant with Paul Evans at Pittsburgh  DIV I  big east  1986-1995 ?

Tom Pope   Brockport 1960  Hall of Fame there 
       assistant at ?
       Head at Geneseo State   ( 2 time coach of year)
       
Sherry Dobbs   Plattsburgh 1995  under Larry Cowan (Ithaca ) and assistant Jim Mullin (Ithaca)
       assistant at Ithaca under Jim Mullins
       Head at Potsdam State (2 SUNYAC Championships)     

Mauro Panaggio - Brockport 1952  Hall of Fame
       Head at Brockport     (4 SUNYAC Championships)    2 NCAA regional appearances    1 final 4
       Head coach Rochester Zeniths    I think they won that Pro league championship

Danny Panaggio  Brockport 1977 Hall of Fame
       assistant at Oklahoma  Div I
       head coach Quad Cities  in CBA   

Tom Spanbauer   Cortland 1983
       played against Tom Clune and Steve Holmes and Dan Theiss and Jeff Law
       assistant at Albany State
       Head at Alfred
       Head at Cortland   ( 4 time Coach of the year in SUNYAC) 
                                   1st appearance in NCAA for school; 1st finals in ECAC for school

Dan Muchnick   Geneseo 2005
       assistant at Cortland (now)

Bill Williams     Cortland  1969   all SUNYAC player
       current assistant at Cortland
       former HEAD at Cortland    1 SUNYAC Coach of the Year
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2007, 04:00:03 PM
Some Adds to your list:

Tim Welsh was an assistant at IONA and Fla. State to Pat Kennedy

Tim Welsh was an assistant at Syracuse to Jim Boeheim

Mike Deane was an assistant to Jud Heathcoate at Michigan State.  Izzo replaced Mike when he left for Siena.

Steve Holmes was an assistant at Potsdam for the '85-87 60 game streak.

Sherry Dobbs has stops at Potsdam (women's asst) and SLU (under Dave Paulsen)

Greg Snyder, Potsdam is now an assistant at Hamilton

Derrick Rowland, Potsdam is the top assistant to Michael Ray Richardson of the Albany Patroons of the CBA, and head coach of the Patroons in the USBL (they field teams in both leagues) and played under three coaching legends, Phil Jackson, Bill Musselman, and George Karl.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2007, 04:09:29 PM
I think you mean Curle, not Clune at Plattsburgh.

Rob Clune played at Albany during that era, and his brother Paul was the coach at Oneonta before Medici.

P.S.  One of the answers to why Plattsburgh took so long between NCAA wins is that they were 2-37 vs. Jerry Welsh coached teams from 1969-1991.  One of their two wins came in '75-76 when the Cards went to the Final Four.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 06, 2007, 05:14:58 PM
thanks thebear.    I just made a typo.
I called Tom Curle , Clune the other day and got a crazy look from him.
He actually knew who I meant.

I was at that game and tormented Jerry all night long.   
Actually I tormented him for 5 years.    ;D
They always beat us ( in many different ways ) but we always gave them a fight.
The only way he could stop Larry Parker was to have him in foul trouble.   :(  seemed to always happen
at your place   hmmm....
My senior year he asked if I wanted to come work for him. 
I just asked for his autograph  and smiled.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: GPT on March 06, 2007, 05:48:31 PM
Rob Kornaker went to Alfred
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 06, 2007, 08:31:50 PM
Well, neither Alfred is a SUNYAC conference school. 
However,   The SJF  coach was assistant at Geneseo St at one time
AND  has two ex-Cortland players as assistants this year.


SUNYAC  - conference of coaches  :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 06, 2007, 08:34:53 PM
What do two things do athletic programs at Brockport, Plattsburgh, Oneonta and Potsdam have in common ?

They have all won at least one NCAA National championship (any sport) 
AND
they have all made it to at least one NCAA Men's basketball Final Four in Div III.   ;D   from 1970 through this year.

Go  Brockport !!!!   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 06, 2007, 09:39:23 PM
I'm going to question the credibility of d3hoops and their pole. First off, the two SIDs for the East Region that vote in the poll don't even pay attention to basketball. One is big hockey guy and other doesn't even go to games. How can you use them, that is ridiculous. WIth the top 25 poll, 1/3 of the teams didn't make the NCAA tourney and another 1/3 already has been eliminated, those are some impressive numbers. Pat, do you have something against the East Region?

Brockport is 5-1 against NESCAC school during their NCAA runs, who else can say that. And I do believe that Amherst is, as Williams fans like to say, "0 for Salem." Also, after hosting the Elite 8 game back in 2002, Brockport finished the poll at 13th, are you kidding me. That team might have been one of the most talented team, that faced a tough matchup in Rochester.

I finally was able to get that off my chest because this has been going on for a while, respect Brockport and the East Region. Just wait to see what Brockport has in store for next year
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 06, 2007, 10:13:01 PM
Robert DeGrandpre   Brockport    Plattsburgh NY native (how did he sneak away  ;D )
     assistant at RIT
     assistant at Brockport
     Just named HEAD coach at Hilbert
(congrats Robert)

Speaking of Rob Clune

Rob Clune   - Albany State 1981
     assistant at Plattsburgh
     assistant at   .....
     Head at Bethaney
     just was named Head coach at Allegheny

Jerome Moss     Fredonia 1981    BS and Masters   all SUNYAC team one year also if I remember correctly
     assistant at Fredonia
     assistant at Elmira
     named  head Woman's BBall coach at Buffalo State
     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 06, 2007, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on March 06, 2007, 09:39:23 PM
I'm going to question the credibility of d3hoops and their pole. First off, the two SIDs for the East Region that vote in the poll don't even pay attention to basketball. One is big hockey guy and other doesn't even go to games. How can you use them, that is ridiculous. WIth the top 25 poll, 1/3 of the teams didn't make the NCAA tourney and another 1/3 already has been eliminated, those are some impressive numbers. Pat, do you have something against the East Region?

Are there not upsets in college basketball? Did I miss something? Did we start playing basketball on paper?

By the way, there are not two East Region SIDs on the men's panel. There's only one. Yes, it's more of a hockey school but I value voters with multi-regional expertise and this person has worked in three Division III regions in the past several years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 07, 2007, 11:40:31 AM
It is a hockey school and he doesn't even go to the basketball games. I'm sure you can find someone who has knowledge of basketball and actually goes to the games. Someone like Eric McDowell from Union would be perfect. He loves basketball and does a lot of research. Though, Union is a D1 hockey program, he has seen his fare share of good basketball teams after being at Brockport for a couple of years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2007, 12:26:30 PM
Liberty League already has a voter.

Please, don't tell me how to make up the voter panel. You don't seem to actually know who's on the panel in the first place.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on March 07, 2007, 07:50:18 PM
FYI...

I just opened up a new topic in the Multi-Region room concerning this sectional.
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5165.new#new

It might make it easier for the followers of all 4 teams to discuss the tournament there; one-stop shopping.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 09, 2007, 10:24:00 PM
Congrats to Brockport!! Good luck against Wooster.

Nice Job Pat on the call. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2007, 03:24:03 AM
Thanks -- appreciate it coming from a former broadcaster.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 10, 2007, 10:28:13 AM
Now, during the Whitmore Era at Brockport, he has made 3 Sweet 16s and 2 Elite Eights. That's a pretty impressive resume.  Is there any chance that they could get some national respect. I would love to make it to the game today but due to the long drive, I'm not going to be there supporting the East region and Brockport.

Hey Pat, any chance within the next couple of years of having a D3hoops Shootout with different regions playing each other similar to a game that is being played today. Take a couple of teams from each region and have them play each other on neutral floors.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2007, 12:37:03 PM
Well, we kind of overestimate the current budget of the site but it does sound like a great idea. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 10, 2007, 06:45:05 PM
Another SUNYAC Major College Coach we tend to forget.

Joe Jones, Columbia. The Long Island native was a four-year letterwinner at the State University of New York at Oswego. He graduated in 1987 with a degree in communications and earned his master's degree in counseling in 1989.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: wooscotsfan on March 10, 2007, 09:36:46 PM
Final:  Wooster 94  Brockport State 87  OT

Tremendous game and a very fine performance by the Golden Eagles! :)  Brockport had a shot to win the game at the end of regulation so Wooster is fortunate to get the win tonight.

Wooster was led tonight by James Cooper who had an unbelievable performance with 34 points!   Tim Vandervaart had 17 points, Brandon Johnson had 13 points, Tom Port had 12 points (12 boards) and Devin Fulk chipped in 10 points.

Brockport State was led by Sherod Harris with 26 points and Brandon Williams with 21 points.  These two guys are incredible players! :)  Also for Brockport, Mychal Wilkes had 12 points, Aaron Poles contributed 10 points and Cantrel Parish chipped in 9 points.

With all their starters returning, Brockport will be a very tough team next year!

Congratulations to Brockport State on a terrific season!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: David Collinge on March 10, 2007, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on March 10, 2007, 09:36:46 PM
Brockport State was led by Sherod Harris with 26 points and Brandon Williams with 21 points. 

Wow, amen to that.  Brockport has an excellent, excellent basketball team.  I was very impressed with the whole team, but especially Harris and Williams.  It took everything Wooster had to give to somehow pull his one out.  I believe Brockport is the best team we faced this year, and I'm certain that they deserve to be ranked fairly high in the top 25 poll. 

I know it's a cliche, but it's true: it's really a shame that either team had to lose tonight.  Congratulations to the Golden Eagles on a great team and a great season.

And congratulations to the Brockport fans, too--you really had the house rocking tonight.   :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 11, 2007, 11:57:56 AM
Good job on a great season Bport you made all of us fans proud!!!!  Everyone who watched that game last night realizes you were just as good as the team you played. Many teams would have packed it in after giving up an 11 pt lead and going down by 11. Returning your top 13 players and making this nice run who knows you might receive a couple votes in the honorable mention top 25. The polls are fun for the fans but its pretty obvious they mean nothing. Good job to all the coaches and players you were a pleasure to watch all season..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2007, 12:28:21 PM
No offense, bports, but if Brockport didn't do enough before the tournament to prove they were a Top 25 team it would be hard for us to take it on faith.

Interestingly, the Massey Ratings before this weekend's games have Brockport at No. 28. The computers didn't think much of Brockport's resume either.

http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1

Will be interesting to see what this team is without Sherod Harris for the first semester next year -- he has just one semester of eligibility left. They will remain a challenge for the voters to deal with.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 11, 2007, 01:32:57 PM
Pat,

They were pretty good earlier in the year without Harris and Parrish. They were much better with them, but they usually only play about 8 games or less in the first semester. He will be missed but I'm sure Whitmore will have another stud transfer fill his role. And don't let the pollsters screw with their ranking like they did when they made the Elite 8 back in 2002. They should be a top 10 team in the country and next's preseason poll should have them right there also.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2007, 02:23:04 PM
The pollsters are allowed to do what they want, including taking into account any wins the teams had over Top 25 opponents in their bracket on the way through the tournament.

Other brackets were stacked much more heavily by the NCAA and I'm sure voters will take that into account but if Brockport is not in the Top 15 I will be very disappointed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 11, 2007, 03:30:03 PM
Quote from: bports on March 11, 2007, 11:57:56 AM
The polls are fun for the fans but its pretty obvious they mean nothing. Good job to all the coaches and players you were a pleasure to watch all season..
Sometimes it's better to fly under the radar.  As you said, the polls are basically for the fans.  The players are the ones who determine the outcomes on the court. 

I wasn't able to attend last nights epic contest, but I was glued to my radio and Brockport definitely had me worried.  If David Collinge says they're the best team Wooster has faced this season, then I would have to agree in that they seem to have been vastly underrated, as Wooster has faced a bevy of quality opponents including several Top 10 NAIA teams.  In other words, that's some pretty nice praise coming from Mr. Collinge.

Congrats to Brockport on a fine season.  From the looks of things, they should be loaded coming back next year and I'm sure getting to the Elite 8 this season had to be a very pleasant surprise.  I don't think you'll have to be worrying about flying under anyone's radar next season, however!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on March 11, 2007, 03:31:29 PM
Congrats to the Golden Eagles on a great run.

As Slickyquick pointed out before the game, Coach Whitmore has quietly done a great job with Brockport.  They beat the other two East region conferences' champs on their floor.  They took out Williams and have beaten NESCAC tournament teams more than once now, which is rare in the East/Northeast.  And they obviously played a great game last night.

The Golden Eagles will be ranked.   And they've erased those bad memories I had from being the sole person to vote  them No. 1 a few years ago.  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 11, 2007, 03:54:03 PM
Pat i would like an honest take as to the harris situation last night with the technical foul. He got a T for smiling after the ref had called a personal foul on him. That kid plays with a smile on his face for 40 minutes and you would think the ref would realize that. The refs then made a total mess out of the next 15 minutes trying to sort out who shoots the ft's first. It ultimately cost Bport 1 point after they let #34 re shoot his ft,s and he made both the 2nd time. It seems fairly obvious you shoot the T first with no one in the lane and then you shoot the ft's with the players in the lane. I have never seen a T givin to a player for smiling, and i think a ref has to realize the situation. I would never say it cost bport the game and take away from a good win for wooster but the refs sure did make a mess out of it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2007, 03:57:20 PM
It only took 7:45 or so to sort out that foul shot fiasco, let's be fair. :)

I do not know what Harris might or might not have done and unless you are him or were on the floor, I don't know if you do either, since it was on the baseline in traffic.

I do know that when Whitmore asked, the official said "I warned him three times."

I think Brockport got a makeup call pretty soon thereafter just to be sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: division3hoops on March 11, 2007, 04:24:30 PM
Just wanted to quickly say how impressed I was with the Brockport team.  Harris is amazing.  He is unstoppable.  I sat there during the game and really couldn't think of a way to take him out of the game.  I can't believe that they haven't been in the top 25 this year because I firmly believe that Wooster has not played a better team this year.  We played Georgetown (NAIA) and they were extremely athletic but still I think Brockport was the best.  With pretty much all of their team returning next year, they should do extremely well.  Funny seeing how good they were, I think Wooster fans were very taken aback by their abilities.  Good luck next year!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WooMix on March 11, 2007, 07:23:44 PM
Is Harris as good as Cooper?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 11, 2007, 09:09:42 PM
Quote from: bports on March 11, 2007, 03:54:03 PM
Pat i would like an honest take as to the harris situation last night with the technical foul. He got a T for smiling after the ref had called a personal foul on him. That kid plays with a smile on his face for 40 minutes and you would think the ref would realize that. The refs then made a total mess out of the next 15 minutes trying to sort out who shoots the ft's first. It ultimately cost Bport 1 point after they let #34 re shoot his ft,s and he made both the 2nd time. It seems fairly obvious you shoot the T first with no one in the lane and then you shoot the ft's with the players in the lane. I have never seen a T givin to a player for smiling, and i think a ref has to realize the situation. I would never say it cost bport the game and take away from a good win for wooster but the refs sure did make a mess out of it.

I don't know if this is any indication of what led to the technical but I found this over on the E8 board:

Quote from: bjgiants6 on March 10, 2007, 03:29:54 PM
Last night, he was guarding a freshman and ate him right up. He especially will try to get into whoever he is guarding into the palyers head, and talks trash.

I don't know what the situation was as I was not at the game, but judging from the fact that the kid likes to talk trash and the fact that he was warned multiple times by the officials, I really don't think there is any reason to doubt the official's decision to 'T' him up.  He had obviously been getting under the officials' skin and finally did something to break the camel's back, so to speak.  It just also happened at about the most inopportune time for Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 11, 2007, 11:14:41 PM
Quote from: WooMix on March 11, 2007, 07:23:44 PM
Is Harris as good as Cooper?

Harris appeared to be faster but I would consider Cooprt the more consistent shooter based on what I saw this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on March 12, 2007, 10:47:05 AM
Hey Pat, since you were at the games this wkend, what were your takes on Fisher on a rebuilding year? although, the starters sat most of the game due to foul trouble it may have been hard to judge.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: doubledribble on March 12, 2007, 02:51:42 PM
Pointing out the actions of these referees does not take away from Wooster's win.  They need to be accountable for their egos and incompetence in such an important game.  You simply CANNOT overlook the order of FT shooters in a techinal foul situation in an ELITE 8 GAME.  Not one of those three refs saw what was going on.  It was the referee at the scorers table who finally stepped in.  Their blunder allowed #34 to retake and convert the game winning basket. 

Like PC said, who knows what was actually said down there, but in my opinion, it better have been really really bad to call a techinal foul towards the end of an ELITE 8 GAME.  The players should decide the game and not some official who feelings were hurt because he was smiled at.

This was a crucial part of the game and was even mentioned by D3Hoops coverage.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2007, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: doubledribble on March 12, 2007, 02:51:42 PM
Like PC said, who knows what was actually said down there, but in my opinion, it better have been really really bad to call a techinal foul towards the end of an ELITE 8 GAME.  T

This was 13:21 to go in the second half, not "towards the end." I don't think that rises to the standards of officials being required to swallow their whistle.

As was mentioned earlier, either here or on the NCAC board, Harris and the same official had a long discussion on a previous out of bounds play. I'm sure Harris must have had some inkling he should be on his best behavior.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: doubledribble on March 12, 2007, 03:38:03 PM
13 minutes remaining is more towards the end than the beginning and 12 seconds is not a long conversation.  I did not say that the refs should have swallowed their whistles.  I did imply that, depending on what #5 actually said, lame techinals shouldn't be called in this situation.  It's the case in every sport at every level.  The players dshould decide the crucial games.

What do you think Coach K. would do if this happened to him against Kansas in 2 weeks????  Wooster made an impressive come back and is very deserving, but those errors cost BP a trip to Salem.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 12, 2007, 03:46:50 PM
You would think that at any point in an NCAA game to receive a "T" you would need to do something extremely wrong. I wasn't there and didn't see it but from other people's observations it didn't seem like it was warranted. I did listen to Pat's broadcast, but couldn't gather the same info as I would've if I was there. I'm sure there were other points during the game where Brockport could have done something different to effect the game. It seemed like the momentum shifted at that point and Wooster took control of the game.

I always try to take the PC version on referees decision making in what to call and what not to call, but it is amazing how much what they do or don't call makes a difference in the game. A great example would be during the West Virginia-Louisville (clock issues and traveling non-call) game then also the Kentucky-Mississippi State (lane violation), which both changed the outcome of the game.

Both Tubby Smith and John Beilein took the high road on what happened. They both pointed out other chances they had during the game but bit their lip when it came to officiating.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on March 12, 2007, 03:49:30 PM
It is apparent the referee had a discussion with Harris -- a warning.  If he was decent enough to give the player a warning and the player chose not to heed that warning, he can give him a technical at any point after that, regardless of game situation as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 12, 2007, 04:03:06 PM
Wooster won the game and they deserved to win because they made the plays in overtime. But that mistake the refs made was a joke and it cost bport one point and possibly two if the shooter would have took that 2nd shot. I wont say it cost bport the game because who knows how the game would have been different. You cant give the refs a free pass on this though, a game being played at that level should be officiated at a high level and that was a high school jv game type of mistake. With that being said i think bports big mistake was in that 6 min stretch was trying to pound the ball inside time after time and it just was not there. Lets be serious here all these referees stood and watched wooster take 3 ft's before anyone realized this? Im just an average basketball junkie and even i know you shoot the T before the personal foul.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on March 12, 2007, 06:02:56 PM
Just back from Rochester, and not surprised to see the officials are a large part of the conversation here.

First - Rochester is a fabulous venue for any tournament weekend any time of the year. I've been to Wooster and never wish to return. Let's call the Fisher facility "cozy", and in a D3 kind of way, an exciting, location for a regional finals.

Re: the officials. The officials consistently get a pass and have their designated apologists on this board and in other venues. The Pope is subject to more direct criticism than the beloved Zebras. I've been ripped here for actually mentioning officials by name. Now, thanks to the Bush administration, that is prohibited by the Patriot Act.

As to the circumstances of the error of the free throw administration, incorrect free throw administration is one of only several correctable errors by rule. Given that the rules recognize that free throw administration provides significant opportunity for error, it is reasonable to expect a crew to take the time necessary to guarantee the correct administration of free throws, particularly when both personal and technical free throws are concurrently awarded, prior to their administration. This crew did not.

While we won't find their names here, I'm sure their names appear on their game checks.

Looking forward to Salem. Brockport will be missed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: JQV on March 12, 2007, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: zola on March 12, 2007, 06:02:56 PM
Now, thanks to the Bush administration, that is prohibited by the Patriot Act.

Is that seriously part of the Patriot Act?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
Names are on the box score:

http://athletics.wooster.edu/mb/boxes/2006-07/brockport.php
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 12, 2007, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
Names are on the box score:

http://athletics.wooster.edu/mb/boxes/2006-07/brockport.php
Wouldn't that be a violation of the Patriot Act??? ::)

Quote from: bports on March 12, 2007, 04:03:06 PM
Im just an average basketball junkie and even i know you shoot the T before the personal foul.
This is not always the case.  There are instances where the technicals are called not in the line of play or something along those lines.  It happened to Wooster earlier this season actually.  They were playing Wabash in a close game and a Wabash player was trying to save a ball from going out of bounds and called a timeout of which Wabash had none left.  The result is a technical, but not one in which Wooster retained possession after the tecnical ft's were taken.  From what I gathered from the type of technical called on Harris, it was along those same lines in that it occurred after the pf was called and B'port was going to have possesion after the ft's were taken.   With Fulk shooting the technicals second, it would have meant that Wooster was going to get possession, so it is actually a good thing for B'port that the alternate official caught the error.   That error was that  the technical ft's had to be shot first and then Vandervaart would shoot his ft's like a normal personal foul with everyone lining the lane in case of a miss and B'port would then gain possession if Vandervaart made them both which was the case.

The bottom line is that there are rules in place that allow the officials to stop the game if there was an error that is a correctable mistake.  Apparantly this was one of those instances and it also allowed for the score to be reset to where the mistake was made.  Was it unfortunate that this mistake had to be made?  Absolutely.  But the bottom line is that the correct call was made and if the officials hadn't corrected things, Wooster would have still had the ball after Fulk's fts with the possibility of taking the lead so you can't really look at that one made up ft as the sole reason B'port lost!

In regards to calling the technical or not calling the technical, I don't think anyone is really to blame other than Harris himself.  It is pretty evident that the officials went out of their way to warn this young man to cool it and stop showing up the officials.  If he chooses not to heed those warnings and gets t'd up for it, then I see no one to blame but Harris for not keeping his cool and for not keeping his mouth shut.  He should know better than letting his emotions get the better of him at a critical point of the game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2007, 08:07:41 PM
The lead had already gone from 12 points to four when the technical was called. The tide was already turning. This didn't help but it wasn't like it sparked it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2007, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: Chairman JoseQViper on March 12, 2007, 06:16:50 PM
Quote from: zola on March 12, 2007, 06:02:56 PM
Now, thanks to the Bush administration, that is prohibited by the Patriot Act.

Is that seriously part of the Patriot Act?

Actually, that level of privacy issue is covered by Kennedy-Kasselbaum, otherwise known as HIPAA! :)

The ACLU is seeking FOIA in the United States District Court Western District Of New York to reveal the names.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2007, 08:48:01 PM
I thought that the falling out-of-bounds timeout was not recognized this year.

Please help me.  The official recognized the technical even tho' there were none left.

Had Wooster had a time out, and he fell out of bounds/lost possession because of the rule change, would Wooster have lost the ball and been charged with the timeout?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2007, 12:05:31 AM
I wish more schools in this league took D3hoops.com seriously. Seven schools have yet to cast a D3hoops.com All-Region ballot. Doesn't bode well for the conference's representation.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: division3hoops on March 13, 2007, 08:52:49 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2007, 08:48:01 PM
I thought that the falling out-of-bounds timeout was not recognized this year.

Please help me.  The official recognized the technical even tho' there were none left.

Had Wooster had a time out, and he fell out of bounds/lost possession because of the rule change, would Wooster have lost the ball and been charged with the timeout?

Not sure what you are saying here???
Wabash was falling out of bounds and called a time-out but had none left to call.  They were granted the time-out (sort of, players were off the floor due to deliberation)because by the time the refs realized they didn't have any left, the players were already off of the floor.  There was deliberation of what to do and Wabash was charged with a technical.  From what I remember, Wooster shot the free-throws but was not awarded possession after them.  The ball went back to Wabash.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 13, 2007, 09:07:12 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2007, 08:48:01 PM
I thought that the falling out-of-bounds timeout was not recognized this year.
Yeah, that was the screwy part of that whole scenario.  The technical was awarded to Wooster because Wabash called a timeout when they had none remaining.  I had forgotton about the rule change stating that you could no longer call a timeout when falling out of bounds to save possession.  In that case, Wooster should have been awarded the ball as well due to Wabash losing the ball out of bounds.  Oh well, it didn't cost Wooster the game or anything.  At least the officials got the technical right which iced the game for the Scots in that game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: division3hoops on March 13, 2007, 10:22:34 AM
Quote from: ScotsFan on March 13, 2007, 09:07:12 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 12, 2007, 08:48:01 PM
I thought that the falling out-of-bounds timeout was not recognized this year.
Yeah, that was the screwy part of that whole scenario.  The technical was awarded to Wooster because Wabash called a timeout when they had none remaining.  I had forgotton about the rule change stating that you could no longer call a timeout when falling out of bounds to save possession.  In that case, Wooster should have been awarded the ball as well due to Wabash losing the ball out of bounds.  Oh well, it didn't cost Wooster the game or anything.  At least the officials got the technical right which iced the game for the Scots in that game.

From my undestanding, you can still fall out of bounds and call a time-out.  What you CAN'T do is jump out of bounds and call a time-out.  I thought both feet had to be on the floor and that it would still be recognized.  Pat or anyone else?  Is this the ruling?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ScotsFan on March 13, 2007, 11:39:14 AM
division3hoops,

You are correct.  You have to have control of the ball and both feet in bounds to call a timeout as you're falling out of bounds  (kind of like a sideline reception in the NFL).  I wasn't at the Wabash game in Crawfordsville, but from the radio broadcast, it sounded as if the Wabash player jumped to save the ball and called timeout in the air.  Like I said, I wasn't there, so maybe he did have control while callling timeout before falling out of bounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: division3hoops on March 13, 2007, 12:34:30 PM
ScotsFan -
I was at the game and never thought that the player didn't have control of the ball or both feet on the ground. I remember some people yelling about not being able to call time-out when falling out of bounds and I also remember sitting there disagreeing with them because I was pretty sure both of the players feet were on the ground and that he did have control.  I think a lot of people were confused about the new rule.
I agreed completely with the ruling the officals made.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 15, 2007, 04:05:41 PM
Isn't this is the SUNYAC board...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on March 18, 2007, 09:17:29 PM
Sitting in Myrtle Beach after 3 great days of basketball in Salem. Both semis were well played nail-biters. Amherst held off a solid Wooster rally and VWC squeeked by WU StL when the Bears last shoot got off just after the horn. Great performances out of Tom Port (Wooster), Sean Wallis (Wash), Brandon Adair (VWC), and Olsen (Amherst) as per MVP.

Finals a total snooze. VWC played poorly. Too much pointless dribbling leading to unforced turnovers, mindless shot selection, and Adair dropped a bomb. 3-11 from the line included many front end of 1 and 1 misses. Amherst was too deep and balanced, protected the ball. Never in doubt.

Overall...

1. Brockport, SJF, can compete with any of this year's final 4.
2.  Wooster brought the whole town. Great support.
3. Amherst fans the loudest and crudest.
4. Salem knows how to throw a party (move this up to 1.)
5. Montano's - fabulous restaurant. Superb filet, scallops, shrimp, live acoustic music. Should not be missed.
6. Burgland Ford - Got us out of major car trouble with incredible service, care, and attention (they really are #1). Thanks again.
7. And as, we have grown to expect from our D3 zebras, they were, of course, inconsistent, often confused, villified by coaches, fans, next of kin...but they're our zebras. In fact, one of our little favorites from Utica worked a semi along with a western NY lad that we love in the greater Roch area. Just like home.

Appreciate all the time that several have contributed to the board throughout the season.

Looking forward to golf, riding the Triumph,  and next October 15th.

One last nod to the 04-05 Bears out there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 21, 2007, 11:56:21 AM
Williams Tabbed All-District by NABC Coaches ;D

KANSAS CITY, Mo.  - Plattsburgh State men's basketball player Anthony Williams collected another award for his trophy case on Tuesday when the National Association of Basketball Coaches selected him to the NABC Division III East All-District First Team. He finished third in the player of the year balloting behind Utica's Ray Bryant and Hamilton's Tsakani Ngobeni.

Williams, who helped the Cardinals to a 21-9 mark (school record for victories in a season), second consecutive State University of New York Athletic Conference championship and first NCAA Tournament win since 1976 in their second straight trip to the Big Dance, has also been named the SUNYAC Player of the Year, D3hoops.com All-East Region First Team and SUNYAC All-Tournament Team.

A 6-1 junior guard from Brooklyn (Paul Robeson High School), Williams averaged a conference-leading 21.6 points, 4.8 assists and 2.1 steals per game.  His performance during the SUNYAC tournament was even better, averaging 25.5 points, 7.5 rebounds and 3.5 assists in three games en route to the title.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on March 21, 2007, 01:04:41 PM
Williams is better then Bryant
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 25, 2007, 05:46:19 PM
Have to believe J. Rother's collegiate career finally over after many stops. Took part in NJAC/Skyline Senior Game. Had 7pts, 4rebs in 7' in 146-124 NJAC win. Rother's Wm Paterson squad had disappointing 15-10 campaign. Pioneers expected to make nat'l waves
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on April 12, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
April 5, 2007

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Anthony Williams' accolades continue as he was named to the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) NCAA Division III third-team All-America team. Williams is the lone representative of the SUNYAC conference, and the first basketball player to receive this honor in Plattsburgh State history. Williams led the SUNYAC in points, assists and steals while helping the Cardinals secure its second consecutive SUNYAC championship. Williams has also been selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Year, D3hoops.com All-East Region First Team, NABC East All-District First Team and SUNYAC All-Tournament Team. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on May 22, 2007, 07:53:57 AM
I see that Morrisville's 07-08 schedule is up on their site and that they play a full slate of SUNYAC games   -  what is their status  -  do their games count in the other teams' league records?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on May 30, 2007, 04:36:04 PM
As I understand it, Morrisville's games will count in the SUNYAC standings, as well as regional W-L. 

Since the SUNYAC is an automatic bid conference, Morrisville won't be eligible for the conference tournament until they are eligible for full NCAA membership.

In effect, they become spoilers until they are a full member.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2007, 04:51:14 PM
Morrisville does not count as a regional opponent until 2008-09.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sixfour on July 05, 2007, 11:52:57 AM
i hear some rumblings out of new paltz? anyone in "the know" about possible shake ups in that program???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on July 10, 2007, 09:20:37 AM
Well the job is posted on the NCAA website so I would assume that Dougie P resigned to take another position or was fired. I haven't heard anything regarding the situation though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on July 11, 2007, 12:39:57 PM
He's returning to Homer HS.  Near his wife's hometown.

here's the link

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070710/SPORTS/707100339

College coaching is a tough gig when you have a growing family.

Once again, the board is prescient.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sixfour on July 12, 2007, 06:27:47 PM
Quote from: thebear on July 11, 2007, 12:39:57 PM


Once again, the board is prescient.




wish him nothing but the best of luck, everything ive heard about him, although never had the pleasure of meeting him, has been positive.

about being prescient....i have some people in my life who are/have been close to the program so I had to ask around here when i heard the Rumor.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on July 23, 2007, 03:39:59 PM
I have heard from 2 people that Bport has 2 big time players coming in next year to go along with there top 13 players returning. One of them is a transfer from a div 1 school and im not sure if the other is a transfer or frosh? I dont want to jinx this so i will not give the transfers name as i will believe it when i see it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WNYHoops on July 24, 2007, 11:47:40 AM
I have heard the transfer might possibly be Calvin Betts, formerly of UB and Rush-Henrietta. Living in Buffalo you sometimes hear things ... but I would find that very hard to believe unless he had some major problems at UB. Why would a kid on full scholarship to a DI school leave to attend a DIII state school in his hometown?? But if Betts is going to B-Port, that has not only regional, but national implications. With the people they have returning along with Betts, who is a legit DI player, everyone else in the SUNYAC might be playing for 2nd place.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2007, 12:39:17 PM
WNYHoops -- it happens frequently.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WNYHoops on July 24, 2007, 02:15:57 PM
Well Pat, if indeed Betts is transferring to Brockport and is eligible to play this year, they will be one of the top 10 teams in the country. Coming off an Elite 8 showing and returning most of their players ... PLUS adding Betts could put them over the top. He was getting minutes last year at UB and playing well. I felt he was the top player coming out of Rochester two years ago, and he should have 3 years of eligibility left. His size and athleticism would seem to be a good fit for their style. If his mind is right, I would think he should have his way with most SUNYAC 3-men. So mark it down right now, Brockport (with Betts on the roster) is the favorite for the top ranking in the East Region. I know the season has not even started and a lot can happen between now and Oct. 15th, but you should get out to see this team play next year. They should have high expectations at "the port."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2007, 04:07:07 PM
I think the only question with Brockport would be what they do in the first semester with Sherod Harris out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on July 24, 2007, 05:35:51 PM
wny  That is exactly what i heard i just didnt want to come out and say it. I never believe these things until i see it happen. I heard this a month or so ago and i also heard the guard coming in is on a level with  sherod harris. Time will tell but im not to worried about harris only playing 2nd semester, after all that is the semester that counts and his brother sean and wylkes will hold down the fort. Lets not forget about poles either that kid is very good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on July 24, 2007, 05:41:48 PM
Sean harris was playing the whole post season last year with a very bad sprained ankle. It was so bad i dont think he even played in a few games in the sunyac tourney, or if he did it was only for a couple minutes. There is no doubt that sherod is there best player but the still have a very strong backcourt without him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2007, 11:12:53 PM
Heh -- both semesters count, bports. If Brockport struggles badly in the first semester and drops a bunch of games it will affect where they play in the NCAA Tournament, if they qualify.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WNYHoops on July 25, 2007, 09:07:11 AM
Obviously missing Sharod the first semester will hurt Bport, but traditionally the games in the first semester will be non-league, with a tournament here or there (I think they actually host a tip-off). Probably around 10 games before Christmas that I don't think would be too grueling. Adding Betts plus their overall depth should not affect them too much with the Harris loss. He will be back for the bulk of their schedule and the tournament. Pat, I don't think making the NCAA's will be an issue with them (Unless they completely implode internally), but an early loss or two could effect their placement. Would they have felt better last year playing Wooster at Tuttle??

This team is loaded and clearly the favorite in the SUNYAC and the always-competitive Chase Tournament before that. I would be surprised if they are not one of the top seeds in the country come March.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on July 25, 2007, 09:44:31 AM
Regardless of Brockport adding any transfers, they should be preseason top 10 and maybe top 5. They could be scary good. And by the way, Shawn Harris actually had a broken bone in his leg. The bone was a non-weight bearing bone but it hurt everytime he jumped, which is much of his game. He played the last month or so of the season with it. Scary to think what he and Brockport could've done with him 100%.

As far as Brockport's schedule next year, they will not have 3 of 5 starters for the first semester. Sherod Harris, Dave Maldanaldo, and Cantrell Parrish will be out. They'll only be out for 4 games unless Brockport picks up another game 1st semester.

All of us D3 fans lost out on another Fisher-Brockport game because Kornaker backed out on a game at Tuttle North for the second time in three years. I always enjoyed watching these two quality programs battle it out. It's too bad Kornaker doesn't want play a quality non-conference game. Inside sources say that defending National Champions Amherst could come to Brockport in late February to replace the Fisher game. It has yet to be confirmed but there is a possibility.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on July 25, 2007, 11:38:05 AM
Why will the three players mentioned, Harris, Maldanado, and Parrish, be out the first semester?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 25, 2007, 12:07:03 PM
Harris has only one semester of eligibility left. Can't speak to the others.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on July 25, 2007, 04:49:12 PM
They will all be out because of various reasons, I'm not at liberty to say because I think some of the reasons are private matters. With a small game load during the first semester, those 3 players not being there will make a difference but not a huge one because of Brockport's depth. They will be playing in Lebanon Valley's tournament and then two league games.

As far as the transfers go, Calvin Betts will not being going to Brockport next season. Consider that rumor dead because there has been zero contact and Betts has not asked for his release from UB. Also, right now there will no other known transfers are headed to Brockport.

Though, as I made mention of last season, watch out for a transfer after semester break. This could be the East region's chance at making some noise nationally.  I have no names or any ideas of who he would bring in but don't be surprised if something happens.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on July 30, 2007, 05:51:11 PM
"...Sean harris was playing the whole post season last year with a very bad sprained ankle. It was so bad i dont think he even played in a few games in the sunyac tourney, or if he did it was only for a couple minutes. There is no doubt that sherod is there best player but the still have a very strong backcourt without him...."

He looked really healthy in the LOSS to Plattsburgh in the finals at Brockport and in the game against Bport's first round opponents in the NCAA's at STF.    I believe he made the All SUNYAC tourney team also.
Looking at the teams box scores for the SUNYAC tourney he played his normal 23 plus minutes for the whole tournament (or more)    31 points in 28 minutes vs P'burgh.

The Favorite and #1 ranked TEAM in the SUNYAC league is the two timed defending conference champions the Plattsburgh State Cardinals.   The automatic bid goes through the North Country based  on conference play and head to head results for the past two seasons.    Anthony Wiliams was/is the best guard in the conference. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on August 01, 2007, 04:49:43 PM
Lets see there cards there is sean harris and there is sherrod harris, you might want to go back to that box score and check your facts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 02, 2007, 09:26:57 AM
As Cards would say, Anthony Williams is the best guard in the SUNYAC. Well, I'm sure many that have seen him play agree that he is one of the best if not the best guard in the league. Here is my opinion.

Williams is a very solid player. He is one of those guys that just puts up numbers. I would imagine after playing against him other SUNYAC coaches look at the box and say, "Wow, I didn't think he had 24 points, 7 boards, and 6 assists." He does everything quietly and bam. It's similar to dying a slow death.

Sherod Harris is THE most exciting guard in the SUNYAC. He is an eye catcher. Everything he does surprises you. Unlike Williams opposing coaches probably say, "Didn't he have like 30 points?" Yet, he only had 18 but made big play after big play and totally changed the tempo of the game.

Now, I'm not saying that either is better, they their battle during the SUNYAC season should be interesting. As I said last year, Plattsburgh will very good. It will be a two horse race, lead by the two best guards in the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 09, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
Any word on the opening at New Paltz? I would assume that some assistants from Williams and Fisher would apply for that. Has anyone heard anything?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on August 09, 2007, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on August 09, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
Any word on the opening at New Paltz? I would assume that some assistants from Williams and Fisher would apply for that. Has anyone heard anything?

Yeah, the article on the hiring was in my local paper this morning (I live 20 minutes from NP).  They went with an assistant from D2 Concordia College (NY) named Dagan Nelson.  He's been an assistant here and there for a long time as well as a HS coach.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 16, 2007, 05:18:31 PM
According to my sources, Brockport coach Nelson Whitmore will resign at Brockport and take the head position at Hamlin University in St. Paul, Minnesota. Hamlin has a rich history of basketball, it held the first intercollegiate game in 1895. It is considered "the birthplace of basketball." Associate head coach Gregg Dunne will take over the Golden Eagles on an interim basis for the upcoming year.

All I have to say is WOW, never expected this. Let the rumors fly...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2007, 03:01:31 PM
That's been mentioned on the MIAC board as well. Interesting move, if true.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on August 18, 2007, 11:32:39 AM
I heard the news on whitmore yesterday but didnt want to mention it until it was made official. I dont blame him one bit for leaving with some of the BS that goes on in that athletic department. Funny how a coach up there can call his own shots for the last two years and another coach cant get anything he wants? Dont be surprised if they lose there football coach next they have his team practicing in a cow pasture. The condition of  that football field in november- dec has already cost them  a home playoff game and has bee an absolute joke the last 3 years. I am a diehard Bport fan but i am really starting to wonder what is going on up there. It must be real fun to recruit a kid after looking at that football field after they have just returned from a cortland visit. I realize money doesnt grow on trees but someone up there better get there act together.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on August 18, 2007, 01:11:49 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on August 16, 2007, 05:18:31 PM
According to my sources, Brockport coach Nelson Whitmore will resign at Brockport and take the head position at Hamlin University in St. Paul, Minnesota. Hamlin has a rich history of basketball, it held the first intercollegiate game in 1895. It is considered "the birthplace of basketball."

No, it's considered to be the birthplace of college basketball. The birthplace of basketball is Springfield, MA, which is where Dr. James Naismith invented the sport while a teacher at the YMCA School. That's why the Basketball Hall of Fame is located there.

And Whitmore's new school is spelled "Hamline". Incidentally, while it does indeed have a rich basketball history (including a 1978 trip to the D3 Final Four), Hamline has not added much to that rich history in recent years. The Pipers have definitely been an afterthought in the MIAC for at least the past decade, which has been dominated by St. Thomas, Gustavus Adolphus, and St. John's (with a brief flurry of competitiveness from Augsburg when Devean George of the Dallas Mavericks was an Auggie in the late '90s).

I'd be curious to find out why Whitmore has left a program that he has turned into a regional power and tourney presence within a weak region for an underperforming and poorly-supported program in a middling conference in a much stronger region. In other words, he's gone from being a big fish in a small pond to being a small fish in a big pond, competition-wise. Was it money? Dissatisfaction with Brockport's facilities, administration, or atmosphere? Or does he have some tie to Hamline or to the Twin Cities that made this a desirable choice? Because just looking at the facts on the surface -- which is all we have to go on at this point -- it appears to be a lateral move at best on Whitmore's part.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 18, 2007, 10:44:54 PM
Sorry for the mix up with Hamline. As for a couple of interesting scenarios that were confronted at Brockport with Whitmore.

1) Whitmore was offered the job at Hamline and then came to Brockport to see what they could do as far as job duties, salary, etc. Brockport didn't give him ANYTHING. There was no offer for a pay raise (which is due, more on that in a sec) or decrease in administrative duties.

2) His job at Brockport is 50% administrative and 50% coaching. It is surprising how well he has done when you can't focus all your time to coaching. He was also the assistant athletic director.

3) His Brockport teams have the 7th most wins in the country since 2000. Not in the SUNYAC, not New York State, but in the country. Those are impressive numbers and he was not given any type of raise besides cost of living raises throughout that time. During that time, Brockport went to 2 Sweet 16's and 2 Elite 8's.

4) His staff at Brockport is the lowest paid in the SUNYAC. That includes his salary and his only paid assistant Gregg Dunne. There are several staffs that have two paid assistants or one paid assistant that gets a decent amount of money. It is very hard to recruit when an assistant coach holds another job outside the college.

5) There were two other members of the athletic staff at Brockport that received significant raises after successful seasons. Nelson Whitmore and his basketball teams have been the most successful team on campus since he took over. I know you can argue with wrestling but it's different when you are competing with over 300 teams for NCAA bids compared to around 100 for wrestling.

6) At Hamline he will have a full time assistant, good facilities, and an administration that will be supportive. It is in a great city and the school is well known for their academics (law school especially).

7) Though Hamline hasn't been successful in recent years, Whitmore's philosophy is much different then anyone in that league. That will make him unique and bring a different style then what everyone else is use to. Kids love to play in his uptempo system.

Overall, I think it is a good opportunity for Coach Whitmore and his family. He feels like he is wanted in St. Paul and is obviously willing to move his family out there. To leave a potential National Championship contender about a week before classes start, he must of felt that he was severely snubbed by administration at Brockport. I wish him nothing but the best for him. I'm sure he will be successful.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on August 20, 2007, 01:38:27 AM
Interesting response. You obviously have the inside dope on the situation in B'port. Thanks, Slickyquick. Check out the current conversation in the MIAC room, where a lot of Minnesota folks who have a good understanding of Hamline's current status are weighing in about Whitmore's move.

One point I'd like to make, though, is about his preference for an uptempo game being a contrast to the deliberate halfcourt style preferred in the MIAC. There are reasons why that style has always been a hallmark of MIAC play, and why coaches have had difficulty installing a successful uptempo game in that league (and in other midwestern D3 leagues where a similar halfcourt style of play is the norm). One is that a coach faces an uphill battle if he attempts to utilize a different style of play than what is common within his recruiting base, and I can tell you with a fair degree of certainty that jackrabbit ball is not the prevailing style in Minnesota high school basketball. Another is that, if the talent level of two teams is roughly equal, the game is invariably won by the team that executes better, and if the two teams are used to significantly different paces then the team that dictates the tempo will usually be the one better positioned to make fewer mistakes than the opposition. And it's easier for a slowdown, defense-first team to dictate tempo than it is for a speed-it-up, fullcourt team of equal or lesser talent (unless you're talking about a gimmick offense like Grinnell's), provided that the slowdown team has a couple of ballhandlers who can beat a press (or a smart and precise collection of pressbreak passers). Unless he can somehow find the players locally (since Hamline, like almost every team in that league, recruits very few out-of-state kids) who can fit into his system and bring more to the table in terms of skills and abilities than do the kids from Gustavus Adolphus, St. Thomas, and St. John's, those teams are just going to take the air out of the ball by walking it up the floor on each possession and then grind the Pipers down in the halfcourt with physicality and superior execution.

I just get the distinct impression that he's going to be forced to work with a very different breed of player at Hamline than he's had at Brockport State -- and that his opposition may be very different in nature as well.

Good luck to Coach Whitmore, of course, and I'll add that from my point of view it'd be nice to see Hamline rise up and make the MIAC a little more interesting than the usual two- or three-team horse race that it tends to be. But there's no guarantee that the success he enjoyed with his uptempo style at Brockport State will necessarily translate well to the Land of 10,000 Lakes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on August 20, 2007, 01:39:16 PM
I haven't seen anything official on the Brockport pages... but it is on the Hamline site so it must be "official"

http://www.hamline.edu/hamline_info/athletics/index.html

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 20, 2007, 04:54:55 PM
In response to Gregory Sager's comments about jackrabbit ball. I wouldn't call Whitmore's style like that. He wants his teams to force tempo and force turnovers. I'm sure that the MIAC has good guards but Whitmore's teams have made plenty of good guards into tentative players.

Players do not like pressure all the time and that is what his teams will give you. His system is not a gimmick like Grinnell, he has been successful with it since he started coaching. Yes, his players there have to buy into the system and it will be difficult because he really conditions his teams but it is a fun system to play in and to watch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on August 20, 2007, 07:02:10 PM
I want to say good luck to coach Whitmore and thanks for all the great memories and great seasons. You and your teams made our Bport winters alot easier to handle with all of your success.  I think Grgg Dunne who has coached under whitmore for years is a GREAT replacement. Lets just hope its  a long term answer and that the athletic department doesnt fumble this also!!!! Speaking of fumble the first football game is two weeks away and where are the golden eagle socity renewal forms? Whitmore did Bport proud and when the chips were down as usual the athletic department up at tuttle did nothing. I guess if you are not in there  little click up there you get nothing and if you are you get two years of anything you want!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 21, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
Well, it's officially official that Nelson Whitmore has left Brockport and is headed to Hamline.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070821/SPORTS09/708210324/1007/SPORTS (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070821/SPORTS09/708210324/1007/SPORTS)

I'm still in shock that he has been treated this bad by Brockport. I guess the clique that bports was talking about has some major influence while doing minimal amounts of work.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Drake Palmer on August 21, 2007, 07:36:36 PM
That's an interesting article SQ.  If you go back about 6 weeks on the MIAC board former Hamline coach, Barry Wohler, was quoted as saying he was leaving Hamline for a high school coaching position for more money - or "financial security" as he called it.  If I find the link I'll post it here.

It'll be interesting to see how Coach Whitmore does his first season at Hamline. I wish him well, but the cupboard's a little empty especially for the type of ball that Whitmore apparently prefers.

And I was just messing with you & not really trying to bust your chops the other day on the MIAC board.   ;)






   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 21, 2007, 08:57:35 PM
I'm sure Whitmore will get things going quickly (no pun intended) up at Hamline. First season might be struggle considering what is left (from reading the MIAC board) but I'm sure he will get some players there.

Rumor has it, the president at Brockport was not happy with the article in the D & C today. I think anyone would be a little bitter about building HIS own program up and being let down by administration. The president should be ashamed of his actions or lack of regarding Whitmore.

Though Brockport is a very attractive job (w/PE and closeness to BLo and Roch), I think that Whitmore has let his frustrations be known to other coaches. His words carry quite a bit within the NYS coaches fraternity.  It will be interesting to see who those choose.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on August 22, 2007, 12:55:19 AM
QuoteNo, it's considered to be the birthplace of college basketball. The birthplace of basketball is Springfield, MA, which is where Dr. James Naismith invented the sport while a teacher at the YMCA School. That's why the Basketball Hall of Fame is located there.

Incidentally Hamline isn't the only Division III school making this claim.  From the Geneva College website (http://www.geneva.edu/page/fast_facts)...

"Geneva is the "Birthplace of College Basketball," having hosted the first collegiate game in 1892."

Maybe they can play a game this year with winner-take-moniker stakes. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: quickyslick on August 22, 2007, 05:40:00 AM
Hey Slickyquick, Do you think the NCAA violations by Whitmore's program had anything to do with his departure?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 22, 2007, 09:15:39 AM
As far as I know the only violation that occurred was when a couple of guys on the team clocked in for work study. Though the players didn't receive any money, the players got suspended for the year by the university from athletics. The NCAA believed that their suspensions were too harsh and granted all those kids another year of eligibility. Then those same players were suspended by the NCAA for the first couple of games of last year.

So no, I don't think that violation had anything to do with his departure. Maybe it let administration think that it was okay to let their best and most successful coach leave and get nothing in return.

If those are the violations that you are talking about then there is the explanation for that. Also, no need to try and copy my name.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: quickyslick on August 22, 2007, 08:40:24 PM
But were the violations the reason that the administration did not feel the need to Whitmore the money he wanted? The money is obviously there since other coaches have been rewarded for success so there must have been another reason for the admin not to at least counter the Hamline offer.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 22, 2007, 09:05:18 PM
They were deemed minor violations for the basketball program. If you consider what happened with the football team with using a player who wasn't even enrolled in the school. That made FOXSports' bottom line. Now, that's embarrassing. How can administration not check to see if someone has at least 12 credits or is at least enrolled?

Could that whole situation made a difference, maybe. Even before that happened Whitmore was worthy of a raise with his success and never received one. He has had success over time while other sports' (baseball and football) coaches were rewarded with raises and decreases in their other duties, while having less success over time. I think Whitmore has brought more positive light to Brockport than anything else on campus, academics included.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: quickyslick on August 23, 2007, 07:37:52 AM
It is my understanding according to the newspaper article in the D&C that the football situation was caused by a computer glich in the academic record keeping program and not the coach's fault. The basketball situation was different because Whitmore was the supervisor for the athletes that were abusing the workstudy program hours and pay. The three players were working for Whitmore and according to one of the players, were clocking in during practice times.

It is clear that this was probably a determinging factor in the college's decision not to reward Whitmore for winning a few games. You have to do more than win games to get a substantial raise at the Division III level.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on August 23, 2007, 09:03:11 AM
the whitmore situation seems stick, and one that doesn't make sense.. if money was the issue, (don't know how much whitmore made, or what coaches of top 10 teams make).. i can understand that.. like with any profession pay comes with production.. and brockport HAS produced over the past (172-86) over whitmores tenure with the only losing season he has had with the port was his first season 98-99 when they wen't 8-16... whitmore has gained brockport national notariaty taking the port to the national tourney 4 times in 9 seasons, some coaches don't ever get there.... 4 ecac bids.. so 8 out of 9 seasons whitmore has been at the helm brockport has advanced to post season play... so numbers wise whitmore has got the job done, and was well worthy of any kind of raise or money that a top notch division 3 program offers their coaches... i don't think one instance (players falsely claiming work study) would institute such treatment?? maybe i'm wrong but i feel like there is something missing from the equation.. not having really having a real strong knowledge of brockport, or their program besides playing against them a few times in my college days i don't feel i have the authority to probe at what whitmore has built at brockport.. does anyone know what the grad rate of the basketball program was..?? i know at some schools it is not the winning percentage but the character of athletes and the integrity they bring to the program.. i have never heard of such instances with the brockport program that's why i can't piece together the situation.. in my opinion i would say that d3 coaches have few bullets to accomplish:
- recruit quality kids to maintain the integrity of the school/program
- recruit quality athletes to maintain the athletic standards the school has set
- teach players dicipline, how to trust a system, and prepare them for the outside world (outside of basketball).
- win games
- graduate players
- repeat.

if whitmore did all of the above he is a successful coach in my eyes. hamline is lucky to have him.

good luck to the port and whitmore.

whats the SUNYAC looking like this year on paper?? since that's all we really have to go by.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 23, 2007, 09:20:45 AM
QS, come on. A computer glitch, thats a terrible excuse. Usually you can tell if a student is enrolled or not without needing a computer. If they say that then they need to make more frequent calls to admissions and records. I'm not saying that it is the football coach's fault on that but he should at least by aware of things like that, as should as administration. Coaches should at least check on the academic progress of their athletes. Maybe at other institutions someone else checks student-athletes academic progress, but I believe at D3 most coaches do that themselves.

As far as Whitmore being in charge on the work study program, I'm not sure about that. Maybe he is, I can't confirm or deny that. But again, the guys suspended never received money, hence minor violations.

Bimbo, as far as the SUNYAC goes, 2-time defending champs Plattsburgh and Brockport should be the head of the class. Another two horse race as it was last year. Look for Fredonia, Buffalo State, and Potsdam to make improvements. Fredonia and Potsdam are both a year older and will look to make a push to host a SUNYAC tournament game. Buff St could be very good, just a matter of meshing all their pieces (isn't that always the case). I'm sure Oswego will be right up there. Has anyone heard if Perioli is making a comeback? If he does, that pushes Oswego right back to the top. Yes...he's that good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on August 23, 2007, 09:47:48 AM
slicky - i agree with the top 2... team i like is geneseo, i am a big fan of morton and this could be the year they have their coming out.. i could also be very wrong on that one as well, i pick them for my dark horse.. i was never a fan of buff state... always loads of tallent over the past 3-4 years, never make much noise though... i do like oswego this year as well with perioli back saw him play this summer and he looked better than ever, i don't like their size.. they are a grind it out kind of team, but it's hard to grind when you don't have the muscle or size... they will be guard loaded, not much else.. i would have to say top 5 teams in SUNYAC are brockport, potsdam, plattsburg, oswego, geneseo.. any word on morrisville.. i'm curious to see how they will fare in first year SUNYAC test.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 23, 2007, 10:55:11 AM
You are right Bimbo, I always forget about Geneseo for some reason. They have a couple of really good juniors in Morton and Howe. Howe might be one of the better bigs in the conference if he has developed like I thought he would. I'm not as familiar with their other players but those two kids are very good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: notquickorslick on August 23, 2007, 05:08:04 PM
Sorry slickyquick, but I did a little research and your facts are not exactly accurate.  Several years ago, the football coach at Brockport went from a 10-month contract to a 12-month contract and thus his salary was raised to reflect that.  He has also received several merit increases (I believe they are referred to as DSI's at Brockport), as has the baseball coach.  Other than the DSI's and the regular yearly percentage raise, the baseball coach has never had a raise for as long as he's been there (at least 10 years).  As far as the extra duties are concerned, the consensus is that Whitmore always had the least on his plate out of all the full-time coaches.

Since you are so well-informed of Whitmore's situation, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned that he went from 12-months to 10-months a few years ago without a decrease in salary, which in effect turns out to be a substantial raise when you consider his average monthly salary.  He also has received multiple DSI's, and the administration approved his request to pocket money from his summer camps, which is something that no other Brockport coach is permitted to do.

I know Coach Whitmore has been singing the blues lately about his so-called "mistreatment" at Brockport, but don't let him fool you.  His situation isn't nearly as bad as he would have everyone believe.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: quickyslick on August 23, 2007, 05:51:21 PM
Plattsburgh must be considered the team to beat in the SUNYAC. They beat B-Port at B-Port in the SUNYAC finals last year and have a majority of the key players back. Brockport (with or without Whitmore) is the only team that will give them a fight. The talent is still there in B-port but the team could be without at least one of its outside threats. They still have a host of perimeter shooters and Williams and Parrish inside. Whitmore built a solid and deep squad and Dunne says he is going to play the same style. Not many teams can run with Brockport for 40 minutes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 23, 2007, 07:21:30 PM
Now people are making up names to try and question me. Thats fine, I have no problem with that. I'm not close enough to the situation to know all the pay scale stuff but I did hear through the grapevine that the football received a $30,000 raise a couple of years ago when he was about to leave for Mansfield, he was also promised a turf field. Now, as that new guy says moving from a 10 month position to a 12 month position increases salary, I can agree with that, but by $30,000 that's completely irrational or was that a computer glitch too. The reasoning behind the raise was that football was a "money" sport. Its D3 and no sport is a money sport, football is more of a burden then anything.

It is all about keeping up with the Joneses now and if you aren't willing to pay then you will lose coaches. They paid up for the football coach and the football team has done nothing but be .500 since then. Yes, he did make the NCAAs for 4 straight years, but it's not the same when you are competing with about half as many teams.

As far as the camp situation goes, it is common knowledge that money from basketball camps throughout the country to the coaches after the state gets you on the taxes. It doesn't matter what level you are at D1, D2, or D3 camp money goes to the head coaches. That is just common practice, so it isn't an exemption. I'm sure that the wrestling coach gets his fair share of money from the camps that he runs.

On top of Whitmore having much success on the court, he has developed several coaches throughout the Section V area. All league players are a yearly thing with Whitmore. He has produced severeal All-Americans, Mark Wadams (twice), Mike Medbury (twice), Charlie Croff, and Ben Bellucci. He has also had a couple of professional players in Mike Medbury, Ben Bellucci , and Jerry Cheeves. Graduation rates aren't recorded in D3 like they are in D1 but I'm sure his is quite high. He has also raised a substantial amount of money for cancer research with his team the past two years. I did a little research on my own and noticed that his team was 2nd in the Champ/LifeSkills challenge among male teams at the school.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: who cares?? on August 23, 2007, 10:45:48 PM
hi
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: who cares?? on August 23, 2007, 11:05:30 PM
Congratulations to Nelson Whitmore for his success at SUNY Brockport and good luck at Hamline!  I am confident that he will make Hamline a national contender!
He knows how to win!

As a coach, in the SUNYAC conference, I am embarassed for our profession by the "drama" that is being posted about Nelson's departure.  Please remember that coaching is about working with young and  impressionable student-athletes.  I strongly believe that the "drama" that is being written about on this site is unprofessional and in the end will only hurt the student-athletes at Brockport and Hamline.  They have access to this site and we are not setting a good example of what it means to be "professional".   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 24, 2007, 09:34:06 AM
I agree who cares? about the students, but I'm just stating the facts that I know about the Whitmore situation at Brockport. I understand that players, coaches, and obviously fans of the conference get on here. The difference with this situation is that we aren't saying anything derogatory about student athletes. They are not the ones that are professional and don't deserve the criticism that that the media gives them. I just think coaches and administration are fair game.

On a closing note, I want to wish both Nelson Whitmore at Hamline and Greg Dunne at Brockport in this upcoming year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on August 24, 2007, 10:15:54 AM
i don't think there is any "drama" on the situation... when things like this happen on the news, in sports, or anywhere else, there is going to be talk and opinions... i don't think there was any bashing or derogitory comments towards players at brockport or the coaching staff.. slicky has some beefs with the brockport "higher ups".. and that is fine, to each his own.. but when there are boards like these these issues, (coaching changes, players transfering, and the general opinions of fans, coaches or players) are going to be brought about.. facts make the arguement, not the words.. i will follow suit as well in wishing hamline great sucess, as well as brockport.. however this IS a SUNYAC board and SUNYAC issues will be discussed, i would assume.. there have been some good points made on the issue, and i'm sure everyone will move on from it... not much going on basketball wise in these summer months..

on to the season -
who are the top ten players to watch for this year..
guys that can really make a difference on where their teams place in the SUNY..??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on August 24, 2007, 10:41:38 AM
Ten players to watch in my opinion (not in any order)
1) Anthony Williams - Plattsburgh - Reigning Player of the Year
2) Sherod Harris - Brockport - 1st Team All League
3) Brandon Williams - Brockport - 1st Team All League
4) Travis Gorham - Plattsburgh - 2nd Team All League
5) Antawn Miller - Plattsburgh - Explosive offensively and defensively
6) Khylan Hunt - Plattsburgh - Good all around player
7) Scott Morton - Geneseo - 2nd Team All League
8) Foulke-Henderson - New Paltz - 2nd Team All League
9) Nick Perioli - Oswego (if he comes back) - All League several times
10) Damon Brown - Potsdam - Has shown flashes of brillance, needs consistency

Yes...I put 4 Plattsburgh guys on there because they are all good enough to be on the list. Names that just miss this list include Dion Mozelle - Buff St, Mike Lewis - Cortland, Brad Cooper - Fredonia, Tim Reinhardt - Potsdam. Not sure what Morrisville has but I know they have had a ton of talent in the past.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bimbo coles on August 24, 2007, 11:07:16 AM
slicky - good picks i like em... i DO like dion mozelle's game ALOT.. i saw him play a few times last year and he plays with much heart.. i also like kitson from geneseo, i believe he was a junior last year and even snaged POW early in the season... lastly downing from oswego, he really came on at the end of the year last year, he and perioli will be a tough backcourt..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on September 04, 2007, 01:23:05 PM
With school starting, any word on who made it to campus (recruits, transfers) and who didn't come back?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on September 06, 2007, 03:06:05 PM
Williams ,Gorham, Hunt, Miller all return for the two-time defending SUNYAC champions. 



Congrats to Coach Whitmore.
I wish him well .
He wasn't happy at Bport, maybe a change in scenery will help.
Brockport hoops will survive without him. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on September 06, 2007, 03:17:32 PM
Plattsbugh schedule was released today

The begin at the Old Westbury Tip-Off tournament in November

Home vs St Lawrence
away  Morrisville

Dec
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away  Clarkson

Home OSWEGO

Dec 18-19
in California   vs chapman and Occidental colleges

January
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away at Union tournament

away FREDONIA
away BUFFALO

home SUNYIT
home CORTLAND

home GENESEO
home BROCKPORT

away POTSDAM

February
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away ONEONTA
away NEW PALTZ

away Middlebury of VT

home POTSDAM
home NEW PALTZ
home ONEONTA

away CORTLAND
away SUNYIT

25 games    9 home
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on September 19, 2007, 03:22:58 PM
I'm surprised that no one mentioned that SUNYIT is going to the NEAC next year, at least on this board. I think the move makes sense especially since Coach Murphy left last year. The only sport that it has been somewhat respectable is men's basketball.

The past couple of years that have had some fabulous players and have had unprecedented success. In the past they had some quality players such as Keith Glenn and Will Mensah to go along with some of the guys from the past 2 years.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: John McGraw on September 20, 2007, 05:09:57 PM
"With the exception of our SUNY name we share little else with our counterparts in the SUNYAC – from budget and resources, enrollment, sports sponsorship and facilities, we pale by comparison" said Grimmer. "The NEAC consists of institutions very similar to SUNYIT in those categories and, like the SUNYAC, awards automatic bids to the NCAA postseason for conference champions."

"In the NEAC our student-athletes will be on a level playing field and our teams will have the opportunity to compete for those championships and postseason play."

-Taken from an article on WKTV's web site regarding SUNYIT going to the NEAC.

Discuss.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on September 27, 2007, 01:18:05 PM
Looks like it is a better fit for SUNYIT from a competition stand point... but will be considerably more travel from a budget stand point.  If they can afford it, it is a good move for the student athletes...

I am guessing this is an across the board move for the school... and not just basketball.  Is that correct?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2007, 09:43:11 PM
Quote from: Bob Maxwell on September 27, 2007, 01:18:05 PM

I am guessing this is an across the board move for the school... and not just basketball.  Is that correct?
Yes, it is.

On the NEAC message board is the link to the press release (http://php.scripts.psu.edu/dept/iit/hbg/athletics/NEACmembers.pdf).

This really helps the NEAC.  The NEAC's "better" programs are being "cherry-picked" up the pecking order of conferences for numerous reasons.  The NEAC will need some help from new legislation in January 2008 that it has submitted to the NCAA for approval to keep its Pool A bids more easily.

I think that the travel is worth it if the student-athletes have a better chance at a conference championship.  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on October 06, 2007, 07:08:58 PM
Coaching help arrived today at Cortland. Tom Spanbauer's new confidante? His bride, Brookley Abbate. Honeymoon plans put on hold to allow the happy couple to plot for upcoming season. We're on the verge, folks. Red Dragons return pretty fair frontcourt, but must shore up guard slots. Look for at least one frosh to break into starting lineup.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on October 06, 2007, 11:49:42 PM
WYN, I read early about your early prediction for Bport for the chase or favorite, im not quite so sure i agree with you, I think you of are will be Bport in the chase this year.  They are returning just about everyone and will be better coached at that point in the season, port wont be fully gelled with the return of harris similarly to last year at that time. 

I also heard Betts is not coming to bport it was just a rumor.  However, I have seen Cantrell Parrish play this summer and he looks like he is going to be much more of a force next year, making bport even more competitive come NCAA tourny time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 01, 2007, 01:19:45 AM
SAINT LOUIS - Seniors Anthony Williams and Travis Gorham have been selected Preseason All-Americans by The Sporting News, and their Plattsburgh State men's basketball teammates have been listed as a "possible breakthrough team" by the national publication for the 2007-08 season.

Williams, a 6-1 guard from Brooklyn, N.Y. (Robeson High School/Morgan State), is a second-team choice as the reigning State University of New York Athletic Conference and Eastern College Athletic Conference (Upstate) Player of the Year.  He was a consensus all-region choice by D3hoops.com, ECAC and National Association of Basketball Coaches during his junior season, when he led the SUNYAC with a 21.0 scoring average.  He also had 59 3-pointers, 122 assists and 45 steals.  For his efforts, he was named to the All-America teams by NABC (third team) and Division III Bulletin (honorable mention).

A 6-6 forward out of Bridgeport, Conn. (Bridgeport Central HS/Post University), Gorham is an honorable mention pick after averaging 13.2 points and a SUNYAC-leading 10.5 rebounds per game as a junior.  He also shot 55.0 percent from the field, dished 73 assists and blocked 41 shots.  Gorham was the 2007 SUNYAC Tournament MVP and earned all-conference second team honors.

The Cardinals, who are two-time defending SUNYAC champions and advanced to the second round of the NCAA Division III Tournament, are coming off a season in which they set a school-record for victories with a 21-9 record, including 11-5 in the conference for second place during the regular season. As a "possible breakthrough team", Plattsburgh is essentially ranked in the Preseason Top 30 by TSN.  The squad is scheduled to return 12 players, including four starters.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 02, 2007, 11:42:22 PM
PLATTSBURGH, N.Y. - The Plattsburgh State men's basketball team made its national ranking debut in the D3hoops.com Top 25 on Thursday, peaking at No. 16 in the preseason poll of 25 coaches, sports information directors and media members from across the country.  The Cardinals received 161 points. For D3hoops.com Top 25, click here .

In addition, Plattsburgh is rated 13th by Basketball Times (formerly Street and Smith's ) and reigning conference player of the year Anthony Williams has been named to the publication's Preseason All-America Team.

Plattsburgh is the two-time defending champions of the State University of the New York Athletic Conference, qualifying for back-to-back NCAA Division III tournament appearances the last two seasons for the first time in school history.  The Cardinals return four starters among 12 players off last season's squad that set a school record for victories (21-9) and won a NCAA tournament game for the first time in 30 years.

Plattsburgh, which is led by The Sporting News Preseason All-Americans Travis Gorham and Williams, is also ranked in the TSN Preseason Top 30.

"It's great recognition for the school and I'm proud that the national media is taking note of the program's accomplishments the past two seasons," said 2007 SUNYAC Coach of the Year Tom Curle, who is set to begin his fifth season on the Cardinals bench.  "But we have to continue to work hard.  It matters to us where we are at the end of the season."

Brockport State is the only other SUNYAC school noted in the D3hoops.com and Basketball Times rankings, listing at No. 7 (379 points) with one first-place vote and No. 3, respectively.  The Golden Eagles (26-6) won the 2007 conference regular-season title at 14-2, finishing three games ahead of runner-up Plattsburgh (11-5).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on November 04, 2007, 11:02:09 AM
Brockport played a pretty good team from outside Toronto last night and came away with a 99-90 win. Ryerson of toronto went 6'8", 6'10" and 6' 11" across ther front line and Bport started with 4 guards and Brandon Williams. Brockport lead by 1 at the half and pulled away around the 10 min mark. Ryerson cut it to6  a couple of times but bport wore them out. Ryerson reminded me of geneseo alot except much taller, a very disciplined team. It looks like jermaine johnson is in for a good year for the port. He got the start and does all the little things you need to win. He had to have about 12 pts 6 reb and 4 assts, kind of reminds me of a josh pace type of player. Williams had a great game along with poles, wilkes didnt play to well and got in foul trouble. shawn harris didnt really do much but newcomer 6' 6" eamon kayes had a very solid game off the bench. When harris and parish come back after the 5th game it will be interesting to see who comes out of the starting lineup. Not that it really matters everyone will get some run Dunne played about 12 guys even without those 2 last night
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on November 04, 2007, 01:49:51 PM
bsports - do you know if freshman Andy Foote played for B-port last night and if so, how did he look?  Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on November 04, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
jacketfan there are 5 frosh on bports roster and i dont believe any of the played. I do remember his name on the roster sheet, what was his deal in HS? scorer or role player?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on November 04, 2007, 08:38:32 PM
Well, I guess he did a little bit of everything.  Defense mostly but scored when needed, a decent ballhandler.  He was the Class C Co-Player of the Year
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 08, 2007, 01:27:50 AM
00    Tim Havens           G    5-10   160   Fr.    Brooklyn/Frederick Douglass HS
4   Errol Daniyan    F    6-6     200 Fr.     Coram/Longwood HS
15    Chris Ruiz           G    6-4     180 Fr.    Bronx/St. Agnes HS 
41    Shawn Gutzman    G/F    6-3     195 Jr.    Brooklyn/Grady HS   
50    Josh Bruno           G    6-3     195 Fr.    Ottawa, Ontario/Redeemer Christian   
55    RJ Ponesse          F   6-9           260   Fr.   Wallkill/Wallkill
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on November 08, 2007, 09:01:52 AM
Not sure how Gutzman has any eligibility left. I know he played when P-State had Ostrander. He probably took a couple of years off from school. Cards can you explain that to me.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 08, 2007, 09:48:49 AM
If my memory serves me right, If he went directly to the military, the clock stops and starts again once he enrolls following military service.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 08, 2007, 11:45:40 PM
"...Cards can you explain that to me..."

I will call and ask tomorrow, I recall the name also, but haven't been an active alum until mid-season last year.
Too busy recovering and looking for new work. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: EntourageFan85 on November 09, 2007, 01:32:53 PM
Hello this is my first time posting here. I was just wondering after reading the recent posts.  After Brockport and Plattsburgh how do people here see the rest of the conference shaping up.  And for the record if your looking for a voice of a fan of the O-State Red Dragons, I guess I'll be up for that role.  Looking forward to an interesting season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: EntourageFan85 on November 15, 2007, 04:49:58 PM
These are the SUNYAC teams kicking off this weekend, the start of a season. We shall see how things turn out.
Friday Nov. 16th: Buffalo State  vs D'Youville Coles Classic  Hobart  at Oswego   
Max Ziel Tournament  Canton  at SUNYIT Wildcat Tip-Off Tournament   New Paltz  and Oneonta at Rochester Invitational Morrisville  vs To Be Announced   
Hamilton Tip-Off Classic  Potsdam  vs To Be Announced
North Country Coaches vs. Cancer (at Clarkson)
Saturday, November 17 
2:00 pm  Plattsburgh  at OId Westbury Tip-Off Tournament
3:00 pm  Geneseo  vs Rensselaer New York University Tournament
4:00 pm  City College of New York  at Cortland  6:00 pm  Fredonia  vs To Be Announced   Penn State-Behrend Tip-Off Tournament Brockport  vs Rowan   
Lebanon Valley Tournament other games of tournments on the 16th.
Sunday, November 18 
2:00 pm  St. Joseph's (Vermont)  at Oswego Max Ziel Tournament
3:00 pm  Brockport  vs To Be Announced   Lebanon Valley Tournament
TBA  Fredonia  vs To Be Announced    Penn State-Behrend Tip-Off Tournament
TBA  Geneseo  vs To Be Announced   New York University Tournament
TBA  Plattsburgh  vs To Be Announced  OId Westbury Tip-Off Tournament

On a side note I don't know all the tba but for Oneonta and New Paltz they go against Nazareth and Rochester, wins against either of those teams can send a message to look out for the SUNYAC. With Rochester being number 9 and Nazareth receiving votes.  Personally I want Oneonta to come out 2-0 but as long as its not 0-2 they have a decent start.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2007, 07:55:38 PM
 
Filling in a few liftoff blanks ......

Friday finds:
Buffalo St. hosting tourney and meeting D'Youville following UT-Dallas vs. Gwynedd Mercy. Finals Saturday. Buffs fell 113-48 to D1 UB (of UConn victim variety) in exhibition

Oswego preset Ziel fest going against Hobart. Barts meet St. Joe's of Vt. on Saturday; Latter vs. Oswegos Sunday. Lakers with 11 returning including N. Perioli

New Paltz and Oneonta at Rochester invite. Openers: NP vs. nat'lly ranked hosts, OSt gets Nazareth

Morrisville in Hamilton meet facing Pitt-Bradford while Hams draw Medgar Evers

Potsdam at Clarkson hosted North Country tourney and faces Ithaca. Clarkson matched against Albany Pharmacy

SUNYIT at home vs. Canton in Wildcat tourney. Utica College-Paul Smith's fills field


Saturday opening settos:
Plattsburgh tests Greensboro in Old Westbury gathering. OW vs. Brooklyn. Pburghers ranked 13th by NCAA/Bball Times, 16th by D3com

Brockport in Lebanon Valley tourney  vs. first round feature vs. Rowan. LV deals with York, NY. Led by new skipper G. Dunne, Port has No. 3 nat'l preseason slot, 7th D3com and plays first semester minus Sherod Harris.

Geneseo in NYU tourney against RPI for 3 p.m. opener. Homestanding Violets go against Framingham

Fredonia at PS-Behrend tourney. Freds-Baldwin Wallace, PS-B vs. Bridgewater. Freds T. Alassan playing pro ball in Germany

Our guys in Cortland debut Saturday afternoon at home vs. CCNY. Corts stay home Tuesday against Elmira before drawing host next Friday in another Rochester tourney. Dragons have their share of tested seniors (Fish, Jankiewicz, Schaller, Sargent) but underclass vets will figure more (6-4 C. Niehoff, 6-6 M. Lewis, 6-6 250 P. Oliver, guard J. Miolan). Interesting newcomers like frosh guard R. Evans from New Hartford and 6-8 260 C. Milke from Macedon.

We're Floridians now and will be interested from afar ..............

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on November 16, 2007, 01:02:00 AM
Tough test for Potsdam with Ithaca.  Ithaca has 2 all league guys back and looks to finally challenge St John Fisher & newcomer Stevens Tech in the Empire 8 plus one.   Good luck Potsdam!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2007, 11:05:31 PM

   Potsdam takes out Ithaca 93-82, fouling up Bombers with 24x37 to 9x15fting. IC leads most of first half till Bear flourish provides 41-39 halftime edge. Tight second period. IC 8 up at 8:47; tied at 5' and A. Dikes hoop puts Pdam ahead for good. Dikes 18 pts(8x15fg), 11 reb(8off), 4 assts in 31'. D. Brown 21 pts(7x10fg); T. Reinhart 14 pts(5x6fg), Williams 12 pts(5x12fg), Graney 11 pts. IC's S. Burton 26 pts, 7 assts; S. Leahy 23 pts, 7 rebs

   Buffalo St. wallops D'Youville 101-70. In 54-34 hammerlock at half. Fifteen Bengals score. A. White 14 pts(7x13fg), 5 stls in 20'; D. Mozelle 10 pts in 9'. BS 38x82fg, 8x20 3s, 62reb (A. Speed 12 off bench). Bengals with 23 assts

   Oswego licks Hobart 86-74 on 25x55fg, 30x49ft (Bart 6x10ft). Lakers 43-34 at break. K. Reuter 22 pts(6x12fg, 7x8ft); N. Perioli in return goes distance for 19 pts(5x14fg, 1x5 3s, 8x11ft), 10 reb, 4 assts, 4 stls. T. Downing 11x16ft and 15 pts, 5 assts, 3 stls in 35'; M. Jabbi 13 pts, D. White 11 rebs. Oswego 47-38 reb gap, 24 Tvers

    SUNYIT downs Canton 108-93. Holds 50-44 lead at half. Makes 39x87fg, 9x30 3s, 21x30ft with 63reb, 24 assts as Grimmer makes helm return. A. Edwards 15 pts(6x11fg), 9 assts in 38'; D. Golembrowski 24 pts(5x12 3s), 11 reb; D. Moore 23 pts(10x15fg), 10 reb; L-K Miller 14 pts(7x12fg); M. Haynesworth 21 pts(6x14fg) 6 assts, 5 stls

   Oneonta beaten by Nazareth 79-69. Naz by 37-30 at half. Dragons 28x62fg. Reserve R. Stokes 17 pts(7x8fg), 9 rebs in 18'; R. Fisk 11 pts(3x6 3s) in 31'. Naz 28x66fg, 19x24ft to OSt 8x16. C. McAdam 17 pts, 9 assts

    New Paltz falls to Rochester 73-43 and meets Oneonta in Saturday UR tourney consi. NP in 37-24 hole at half. Sees Jackets hit 49% of fg. Hawks soph L. Bertram 16 pts, transfer K. Nelson 15 rebs

     Morrisville tagged with 75-71 loss by Pitt-Bradford
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2007, 11:13:51 PM

   Oneonta gets Rochester on Saturday night in UR tourney -- preset pairings this year. New Paltz clashes with Nazareth. UR-Nazareth duel Tuesday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2007, 10:00:20 AM


    Just to finish that thought ......
     Provisional member Morrisville in respectable opening test. Trails P-B 41-37 at intermission and pulls even early in second half. Has 27x69fg connections, 4x22 3s. J. McCants 15 pts(6x7fg), 6 reb; D. Spencer 13 pts, 8 rebs. Mustangs a handful for touted Ithacans in preseason work. IC minus top insider Bostic -- he of IC's ongoing dreamy football season, in fall to Potsdam












Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2007, 06:04:10 PM

   Cortland debuts with 73-61 handling of CCNY, leading 44-24 at half. Guests within 11 before Dragon Schaller & Miolan treys widen margin

   Geneseo opens with workmanlike 69-56 halting of RPI in tourney play. Knights by 32-23 at half, shoot 27x58fg overall to RPI 19x54. Gens grab 47 boards. Only 5 up at 3:20, J. Kling and J. Howe deliver next six points. Howe 21 pts(10x14fg), 13 reb in 36'; T. Kitson 19 pts, 8 reb; S. Morton 16 pts, 8 assts, 2x4 3s; Kling 11 pts(5x9fg)

    New Paltz tumbles 88-71 to Nazareth. K. Nelson 27 pts, 8 reb in all-tourney play. Naz 42-22 midway through. Outscores Hawks 20-26 to 4x6 at ft line. L. Bertram 14 pts, M. Houser 12 pts, V. Alvarez 10 pts

    Buffalo State beaten 90-82 by Gwynedd-Mercey in BS tourney final. Champs 55-41 at half. Bengals 32x69fg (3x14 3s), 26 trnvrs. D. Mozelle 21 pts(8x17fg), 9 reb, 4pf in 25'. J. Gray 19 pts (7x15fg), 8 assts, 4 stls. G-M 22x42fg in first 20'. Winners with 17 stls

    SUNYIT bows  to Utica College 75-66 in tourney final. UC just 39-38 halftime leader as IT his 13x25fg by intermission. Finishes 22x54fg. M. Haynesworth 21 pts(6x13fg, 3x6 3s); A. Edwards 13 pts (6x9fg), 4 assts, 5 trnvrs. IT leads by six with 10' left.

    In North Country consi Ithaca slams Albany Pharmacy 100-50. S. Burton 22 pts, 6 assts. Potsdam-Clarkson final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2007, 08:38:31 PM

   Cortland out fast, dominates till play gets bit shoddy. Unloads at 16x38fg first half clip and winds up 26x64(6x15 3s) plus 15x19ft. In search to replace hot-handed Maggiacomo, M. Lewis 13 pts(5x11fg), 8 reb, 4pf in 22'; C. Niehoff 12 pts(5x9fg, 2x3 3s), 7 reb in 33'; W. Coston 12 pts, 4 assts in 27'. Nine Dragons score. Frosh guard R. Evans impressive in 24'

   Potsdam thrashes crosstowner Clarkson 71-51 to win N.C. tourney. Tight till about 7:30 when Bears widen lead to double figures. Lead never less, 34-19 at half. Pdam 25x58fg, 9x18 3s led by B. Siskavich arcing 5x5 in 24 pt binge. Nabs 7 reb. Most all contribute. Had to with numbers like A. Dike 2 pt(1x4fg), T. Reinhardt 3 pt(1x6fg)

   Morrisville spills Medgar Evers 85-67 in Hamilton consi. Out to 50-34 halfway lead. Shoot at 32x59fg clip. D. Spencer 21 pts(6x12fg, 2x4 3s), 7 reb, 9 assts, 5 stls, 8 trnvrs in 26'; A. Olasokan 13 pts(5x6fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2007, 08:50:23 PM

  Brockport drops 97-93 opener to Rowan in Lebanon Valley tourney semi. Rowan with four regulars returning from 20-6 squad
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 17, 2007, 10:14:24 PM
Was at both games of the NC Tourney. 

IC was without Bostic, but Leahy/Brown both played well, so difference with Bostic may have been incremental.  Burton [no doubt a first rate D-III guard] played 40', and it was obvious last 6 or 7 that the pace and minutes were impacting his shots and T'overs (Burton had 10).  Potsdam has relays of tenacious athletic wings, and that's where the game was decided.  D. Brown, A. Dike, A Williams Jr., D. Taft & B. Graney mean the wings play hard the whole time they're in the game.  They rebounded and ran the floor well at both ends.

Siskavich was hampered with foul trouble vs. IC, but against Clarkson, showed his perimeter game, which at 6'8 is not all that common at the D-III level.  Pickering is a D-III center with an NFL tight end's body, but Siskavich more than held his own.  Clarkson had huge graduation losses and is still sorting through their PG and perimeter rotation.  They don't appear to have much help for Pickering in the post, but two frosh, Marquis and Lasalita appear to have talent and desire.

SUNYAC shaping up to be a beast of a league, 'port & Platty both have top 25 talent, Geneseo has size and veterans, Buff St always has athletes, Cortland always well-coached, Oswego has Perioli & supporting cast, good teams will be left out of the top 8.  Potsdam has 8 veterans, solid PG Xfer in Serge Clement, and 6'11 first year player Greg Lothridge, who has skills and could be a factor down the stretch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on November 17, 2007, 10:42:48 PM
I think the East region as a whole is much better than in recent years.  Empire 8 although probably not having a team to threaten deep in the ncaa has 4-5 candidates to make the ncaa's this year, possibly getting 2 in if they dont beat each other up too much.  Sunyac at the top very very good, and liberty league is descent as well.  UofR considered east region should have an excellent year as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2007, 11:03:17 PM

   Plattsburgh overwhelms Greensboro 92-59 as A. Williams goes for 27 pts (9x15fg, 6x10 3s), 9 assts in 33'. Cards roll  to 46-29 lead at half. Make 34x61fg, 10x18 3s with just 8 trnvrs. A. Miller 20 pts(8x9fg), 4 stls in 30'; C. Ruiz 13 pts in reserve capacity; K. Hunt 10 pts(5x10fg), 8 rebs

  Brockport tumbles despite 25 pts(7x13fg) by M. Wilkes -- all in second half. Eagles trail Rowan 49-38 then, twice come back into contention. S. Harris 15 pts; J. Clarke 14 pts; B. Brooks 11 pts; B. Williams 5 rebs; A. Poles 5 rebs

   Fredonia gunned down 94-76 by D3com 20th Baldwin-Wallace. Soph B. Cooper 29 pts for Devils; R. Buckmon 23 pts; J. Kane 13

   Oneonta victim of 72-53 Rochester raid as latter's R. Dominak nets 24 pts (6x9 3s) in mvp role. OSt down 42-30 at half on UR 17x29fg accuracy. Dragons 11x22fg over same frame but wind up 18x49 to Jackets' 29x58fg. Oneonta 9x16 3s. All tourney R. Fisk 15 pts in loss, M. Grimes 14 pts(5x8fg)
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Post by: jdex on November 18, 2007, 05:42:19 PM

    Brockport takes consi honors with 85-78 win over host Lebanon Valley. Another big game from M. Wilkes (29 pts, 5 stls, 5 reb). Strikes for 19 pts in 1st half following Sat's all 25 in 2nd half. Makes 8x10fg, 5x7 3s in 39'. Ports 27x46fg(17x26 1st half), 8x14 3s, 18 stls. Eagles 51-33 half and extend to 22 before pair of LV approaches -- closest at 4. J. Clarke 13 pts(5x6fg), all in 1st half, 4 stls. E. Keys 9 pts, 6 reb

    Oswego 84-66 over St. Joe's (Vt) in Lakers tourney final. MVP N. Perioli 22 pts, 4 assts. K. Reuter 27 pts, 18 over 2nd half. T. Downing 5 stls, M. Jabbi 16 pts, 13 reb. SJ's R. Carmo 31 pts, 18 reb

     In motion ...... Fredonia vs. PS-Behrend, Plattsburgh vs. Old Westbury, Geneseo vs. NYU
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2007, 05:49:04 PM

  Actually Fredonia today matched with Bridgewater (Va) in PS-B consi
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2007, 08:16:50 PM
 
  Plattsburgh captures title 77-65 at host Old Westbury expense. A. Williams mvp with 27 pts(11x23fg). A. Miller 11 pts, 6 reb, 2 stls; T. Gorham 15 pts, 12 reb; K. Hunt 13 pts, 9 reb, 2 blks. Consi: Brooklyn College tops Greensboro 84-77

  Geneseo crowned with dramatic 60-57 victory over host NYU. MVP S. Morton hits 30' trey at buzzer. T. Kitson had knotted tilt :30 earlier. Morton 28 pts(11x19fg); all-tourney J. Howe 10 pts; Kitson 6 pts, 10 reb; J. Kling 9 pts, 9 rebs

   Fredonia falls 60-52 to Bridgewater (Va) in Penn St.-Behrend tourney consi. Devils in 25-20 arrears at half. Foul line difference: 6x7 Freds, 16x28 Bridgies who shoot just 19x49fg, Fred merely 20x59. B. Cooper 18 pts(7x15fg, 2x4 3s) in 39'; K. Gordon 11 reb; W. Davis 10 pts
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Post by: Caz Bombers on November 18, 2007, 11:20:18 PM
Very nice win for Geneseo.  Pretty tough to beat NYU in any sport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2007, 09:21:51 PM

  Cortland at home bumps off Elmira 84-58 though not with some concern. D. Fish 3pter at horn provides 31-28 halftime lead. Six ties in opening half. Red Dragons pull away and seize 18 pt lead with 12:25 left. W. Coston 15 pts(6x11fg), soph M. Lewis 15 pts(6x12fg), 7 reb; fr R. Evans 11 pts(4x7fg, 3x6 3s); soph P. Oliver 7 reb. Corts 33x66fg and 21x31 2nd half. Elmira 21x44fg paced by D. Nelson 16 pts(5x8fg, 3x5 3s)
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Post by: jdex on November 20, 2007, 11:22:53 PM

  New Paltz first win a 53-43 decisioning of Old Westbury. Leads 23-14 at half. M. Hauser 22 pts(5x9fg, 5x6 3s); L. Bertram 17 pts(6x11fg), 9 rebs. Rest of Hawks 3x25fg. K. Nelson 0x9fg, 9 reb. OW 16x58fg

   Fredonia shaded 73-71 at home by D'Youville which overcomes 64-49 deficit with 10' left. Devils had dug from 37-29 halftime hole. K. Gordon 16 pts, 11 reb, 5 assts; K. Saunders 15 pts, 5 stls, 4 assts; B. Cooper 12 pts. Freds 26x45fg and 41-30 reb margin. D'Youville 11x16 3s, 23x47fg. C. Walker 23 pts(5x8 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 22, 2007, 10:52:10 AM
SUNYAC, with addition of Morrisville,is once again split between East And West 

West:  Brockport, Buffalo State, Fredonia, Geneseo,Morrisville,Oswego

East: Cortland,New Paltz, Oneonta, Plattsburgh, Potsdam, SUNYIT.

This is the same format when Binghamton, Albany and UB were part of the conference.

Any insight if it will stay this way after SUNYIT leaves.  Maybe one of the other tech schools will join since it seems that they are all becoming 4 year colleges.  Maybe Canton or Alfred?  Cobleskill is joining same conference as SUNYIT.  Maybe one of the SUNY schools near the city(NYC).  Will be interesting to follow.

This being said, Does anyone know the playoff format?  Top 4 schools from each conference?  When looking at each school's schedule, it seems that the east  play the west  once and they play each team in this conference twice. 

It should be a fun year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 22, 2007, 11:07:08 AM
Canton's going NAIA, as D-III new admits are frozen.  Only SUNY 4 years not in the conference are Purchase, Old Westbury, & Farmingdale, which are 300+ miles from Plattsburgh, Potsdam, and Fredonia.  Other Techs are Alfred, Delhi, but again with D-III on moratorium, don't know if  they can join if not a provisional D-III. 

Assume it will be similar to the past, top two seeds in each conference will host bottom two in the quarters.  I think in the past they crossed divisions in the quarters to give the 1 seeds best chance at the finals.  Since everyone plays each other at least once, plenty of head-to-head to determine tie breakers for hosting.  Will try to find out if hosting is predetermined (East or West) or based on overall conference record.  In the past it was predetermined IIRC.

West looks very tough, 'port, Geneseo with a win at NYU, Buff St, Oswego with Perioli back.

Happy football/turkey.  Very weird here in Cali, parade at breakfast, football at 9AM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 24, 2007, 11:59:39 AM

Thanks, Bear Boys. We just hadn't gotten around to taking note of new setup, though we were aware. Highest remaining seed (best record if 1 vs. 1?) hosts Final Four, we think. Great to see action back on campus. Geez, it's difficult trying to keep up long distance (from F.L.A.).

Can't remember conference ever being this strong.

Young Cortlands and Span -- he the Dean of SUNYAC coaches, in Rochester Tourney tonight vs. 'Jackets. Balwin-Wallace and Ohio Wesleyan duel. Matinees for Sunday duty
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 24, 2007, 10:48:34 PM

   Cortland beaten first time when Rochester scores 72-50 opening round UR tourney victory. Jackets go to 4-0. Open up 27-7 lead that shrinks to 33-23 at half. Corts within 8 at 18' mark. J. Onyiriuka leads 9-0 UR run. Corts back to 8 just inside 10'. Hosts on 11-0 streak. Dragons just 20x58fg (4x15 3s). Just 10 Trnvrs. P. Oliver 13 pts(6x7fg) in 26'; C. Niehoff 12 pts(4x10fg, 2x3 3s) in 34'. M. Lewis fouls out in 18' stint and just 4 pts(2x3fg). P. Jankiewicz 2x2 3s in 9'. UR 27x52fg as Onyiriuka raises havoc inside (15 pts(7x10fg) in 29' to lead four UR double figure pt. producers.
     Corts get Baldwin-Wallace in Sunday 1 p.m. consi. B-W loses 98-68 to Ohio Wesleyan
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on November 25, 2007, 12:31:38 AM
Everything you say about the UR/Cort game is true jdex, but the really telling stat was rebounding.  UR held a 41-29 advantage.  The "bigs" - Ndubizu, Onyiriuka and Millbrand - combined for 39 points as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 25, 2007, 03:43:42 PM

   Cortland grabs big 87-84 win over Baldwin-Wallace in Rochester tourney consi. Six Dragons score in double figures and soph P. Oliver all-tourney. C. Niehoff 19 pts, 5 reb in 35'; M. Lewis 16 pts(6x9fg), 7 reb in 34'; J. Miolan 13 pts(5x9fg, 2x5 3s) in 22'; Oliver 12 pts(6x10fg), 11 reb in just 17' because of 4pf; W. Coston 12 pts(5x11fg, 2x3 3s) in 31'; M. Schaller 10 pts(3x4 3s) in 23'; D. Fish 5 assts
     Corts land 33x70fg, 8x15 3s, hold 35-34 reb edge with 18 off offensive glass (Oliver 7), make 13x16ft. Commits mere 8 trnvrs. Tight opening half, tied at 36 before CSt takes 44-36 lead at break behind Lewis spurt. Dragons hold lead till seventh and last tie at 76. B-W leads by 1 but Coston '3' at 2:42 puts Dragons up for keeps. Niehoff and Lewis clutch at foul stripe in stretch run. B-W makes 11x23 3s in 29x58fg effort. K. Brown 31 pts



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 25, 2007, 11:38:02 PM
From the SUNYAC web-site

QUARTERFINALS
February 26 (on campuses)

SEMIFINALS-FINALS
February 29-March 1 (highest remaining seed)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 25, 2007, 11:39:30 PM
November 19
Anthony Williams (Brooklyn/Paul Robeson), Plattsburgh senior center
Williams was chosen most valuable player of the SUNY Old Westbury Panther Classic after leading the No. 16 Cardinals to wins over Greensboro and host SUNY Westbury. He scored 27 points in each game and had 12 assists in the two games against three turnovers, a 4-to-1 ratio. He shot 52.6 percent from the field (20 of 38) and 42.1 percent from three-point range (8 of 19). He also averaged 2.5 steals and 3.0 rebounds in the two tournament games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 26, 2007, 11:02:09 PM


   Oswego polishes off host Cazenovia 96-67
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Post by: jdex on November 27, 2007, 10:14:10 AM

    Oswego punishing of Caz features T. Downing 17 pts, M. Jabbi 16, D. White 14 and 11 reb, K. Reuter 10, M. Jones 10. Lakers, 3-0, extend nine pt halftime lead with 13-0 run starting second period. Host Potsdam Friday, Nazareth Saturday

     Pdamers tonight featured at RIT. Geneseo shares spotlight in home test vs. SJ Fisher. Plattsburgh at home in north country test vs. St. Lawrence. SUNYIT at So. Vermont. New Paltz vs. Vassar at Bard tourney where hosts face Mt. St. Mary's
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on November 27, 2007, 10:54:27 AM
Must say, the Caz web site may be the worst I've seen for updating sports.  Statistics are for last year.  No write up of either game on the men's basketball site, but they do have a story about the JV team and one about how they are going high-tech with email updates.  Oh well
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2007, 10:08:56 PM

  Geneseo 68, St. John Fisher 64

   Potsdam slips 79-70 at RIT. Fouls critical. Only 19x40 (RIT) to 21x30ft difference, but Bears' Siskavich (6 pt, 3x4fg, 18') and T. Reinhardt (1 pt, 0x1fg, 16') plagued. Reinhardt dq'd, Siskavich 4pf. Knotted at 29 at half. Pdam up 41-33 before 29-9 RIT tear. B. Graney 16 pts, 9 reb, 30' off bench; A. Dike 14 pts; A. Williams 11 pts, 10 reb. Bears 22x57fg, RIT 25x60fg, 10x23 3s. Tigers 16x30fg in second half. M. Carson 17 pts, 13 reb in win

    New Paltz loses 69-58 to Vassar in first round of Bard tourney. Vassar in 35-29 halftime control. K. Nelson 17 pts, 14 reb, 4 assts in loss; L. Bertram 12 pts; M. Hauser 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2007, 10:29:22 PM

   Plattsburgh 84, St. Lawrence 70

    Geneseo clinches at ft line after SJF narrows 9 pt. hole to 2 at 2:41. T. Kitson hits 2ft at :24, J. Kling adds 1ft at :15 and S. Morton seals it with 1ft at :04. Kling 18 pts(6x8fg), 10 reb. with 17 pt. in first half. J. Howe 17 pt(8x13fg); Morton 13 pts (3x6fg, 5x13ft); Kitson 11 pts (4x12fg), 10 reb. Knights 18x36ft, SJF 10x15ft. Gens narrow lead at half. Knights 23x49fg, 4x12 3s; SJF 23x54fg, 8x22 3s and led by C. Baltz 20 pts. Knights 37-31 reb gap
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2007, 10:42:23 PM


     Plattsburgh played tough by Larries -- within 6 at 4:43. Only double figure separation near finish. Game scoreless first 2:11; Cards drought lasts opening 4:10. Finally grab lead and go to halftime in front 40-37. Pburgh lands 15x28fg in final 20'. Shoots 31x64 overall to SL 27x66(6x21 3s). A. Williams 26 pts(8x20fg) in 34'; K. Hunt 18 pt(7x12fg); A. Miller 5 assts; T. Gorham 8 pt, 14 reb, 5 stls, 3 assts; C. Ruiz off sidelines for 10 pt(4x6fg, 2x2 3s). Platts 41-35 edge on boards
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2007, 10:47:50 PM


     SUNYIT 93, So. Vermont 76
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2007, 10:30:03 AM

   SUNYIT frosh D. Golembiowski continues lighting it up, striking for 24 pts (9x16fg) at So. Vermont. Nails 6x12 3s, pulls 9 reb, has 4 of Cats' 18 stls. IT by 48-33 at intermission in second win in three starts. D. Moore 17 pts(6x8fg), 5 stls, 5 reb; A. Edwards 15 pts, 11 assts, 5 stls; M. Haynesworth 11 pts. IT 35x70fg, 8x18 3s. SV 1-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on November 28, 2007, 05:11:50 PM
Some info about the SUNYAC tournament format for the 2007-08 season:

The top four teams from each division qualify for the tournament, based on their records from all SUNYAC games (not just divisional games). Those eight teams are then seeded 1-8 based on their SUNYAC records, and the tournament format is the same as last year (quarterfinals: 8 at 1, 7 at 2, 6 at 3, 5 at 4; semifinals and finals at the site of the highest remaining seed after the quarterfinals).

So, for example, if the East champion finishes the year 15-1, the East runner-up is 14-2 and the West champion is 13-3, then the seeds would be: #1 seed - East champ, #2 seed - East runneruip, #3 seed West champ. This format also means that a team could make the tournament with a record worse than a team that doesn't make it. For example, if the fourth team in the West is 7-9 and the fifth team in the East is 8-8, the West fourth seed still makes it while the East fifth seed doesn't, even though the East #5 has a better record.

It appears that the league will revert back to an 11-team, no-division setup in 2008-09 after SUNYIT leaves. I'm not 100 percent sure about this, however, but I think that's the case.

Hope this information helps.

Fran Elia
Cortland SID
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 28, 2007, 06:30:22 PM
Is Morrisville eligible for the SUNYAC tournament and/or NCAAs?  Not yet, right?  When will they be fully graduated into D3?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2007, 11:44:22 PM

  New Paltz 93, Bard 72 in consi of Mid-Hudson tourney hosted by Bard. K. Nelson 31 pts(12x18fg), 21 reb; L. Bertram 21 pts(9x15fg), 12 rebs; J. Sugure 11 pts, 5 assts; V. Alvarez 10 pts; A. James 10 pts. Hawks 43-32 at half

    Morrisville in provisional D3 status for second year. Believe Mustangs fully accredited next school year. Am sure Fran 'Da Man' knows for sure
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2007, 08:54:39 AM

   Oneonta nabs first win with 84-73 road beating of St. Joseph's (Vt). Red Dragons see 41-34 halftime lead shaved to 48-47 and 55-54 before breathing room. B. Fisk 15 pts(3 3s), R. Morin 13 pts, M. Grimes 10 pts. OSt 1-2, NAIA D2 Fighting Saints 1-5
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: EntourageFan85 on November 29, 2007, 12:38:44 PM
So it essentially is a top 4 place winners in each division go to the playoffs this year. Let's hope that it shakes out properly and a 8-8 5th place on one side doesn't get screwed for a 6-10 4th place in the other divison.  Granted I have to look at the divisional breakdown but I think all you have to do is look at one SUNYAC's school schedule. They play there division rivals twice and other division once. So go from there. And Oneonta State got a win after a tough opening weekend, hopefully they can start the confernce right with a win against Geneseo this Friday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: EntourageFan85 on November 29, 2007, 12:52:34 PM
On a side note, not sure if the exact divisional breakdown was mentioned so here it is in alphabetical order since interconference play has not begun yet:

EAST DIVISION: Cortland Red Dragons, New Paltz Hawks, Oneonta Red Dragons, Potsdam Bears, Plattsburgh Cardinals, SUNYIT Wildcats

WEST DIVISION: Brockport Golden Eagles,  Buffalo State Bengals, Fredonia Blue Devils, Geneseo Knights, Morrisville Mustangs, Oswego Lakers

Morrisville is not elegible for postseason play yet. I say this looks balanced either way. Let's see how it looks in the conference cause based on right now most of the conference has done well and had quite a few games already. I know Oneonta lost by 10 to Naz and badly to Rochester. In a couple of weeks they head down to Greensboro who has done damage already this year and also play Averett again. All are pushing themselves to make sure the conference gets two bids min. to me. And I've seen and read what others have done already. Lets go SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2007, 03:30:35 PM

   And Awaaaaaay we go .........conference openers, all interdivisional:

    New Paltz (2-3) at Brockport (1-1)
    SUNYIT (2-1) at Buffalo St. (1-1)
    Cortland (3-1) at Fredonia (0-3)
    Oneonta (1-2) at Geneseo (3-0)
    Plattsburgh (3-0) at Morrisville (1-1)
    Potsdam (2-1) at Oswego (3-0)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2007, 10:41:11 PM

  Cortland rises in second half for 60-57 win at Fredonia. Fr. 6-8 M. Milke hoop at 10:57 puts CSt up 44-42. Trails 27-25 at half. Dragons with 38-24 reb advantage. M. Lewis 15 pts(7x13fg), 11 reb in 29'; W. Coston 10 pts. Milke sees 15' of court time for 4 pts(2x3fg). B. Cooper 3-pter at buzzer misses for Devils. Cooper 18 pts(3x6 3s in 6x11fg)

  Brockport gets past guest New Paltz with 74-59 ease. Eagles by 33-26 at half. Hit 29x65fg with 26 assts, 14 stls. NP 25x53fg. Winners get 19 pt.(7x13fg) from B. Willism who has 7 reb, 4 assts, 3 stls in 22'; A. Poles 12 pts; M. Wilkes 11 pts, 8 assts; E. Keys 10 pts(5x9fg) in 20'. NP K. Nelson 17 pts(8x14fg); L. Bertram 10 rebs; M. Hauser 8 assts

    Geneseo swats visiting Oneonta 83-55. Knights score initial nine points and romp 43-24 at half. S. Morton 21 pts, 7 assts, 6 rebs; T. Kitson 19 pts; J. Kling 11 pts; R. Hasenauer 11 pts, 5 reb. Gens 54% from field

     Buffalo St. takes 81-76 issue from SUNYIT at BS. Bengals by 45-28 at the break. Land 32x71fg. D. Mozelle 19 pts(8x15fg), 10 rebs in 29'; J. Gray 18 pts(7x17fg), 6 assts, 3 stls; N. Wilkes 16 pts(6x18fg). IT has five in double figure scoring whie going 28x66fg. D. Moore 17 pts(7x13fg; L-K. Miller 16 pts; M. Haynesworth 15 pts, 6 assts; A. Edwars 12 pts; D. Golembiowski 14 pts(2x10 3s), 11 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2007, 10:53:07 PM
 
    Plattsburgh blows away hosts Morrisville 111-69, building 53-29 halftime bulge(19x38fg). A. Williams 18 pts(5x12fg, 5x10 3s), 3 assts, 2 stls in 30'; D. Errol 16 pts(5x7fg), 3 stls in 14'; K. Hunt 14 pts(5x6fg); T. Gorham 12 pts(6x9fg), 8 rebws; A. Miller 5 assts. Mville's T. Foster 16 pts(6x12fg). Cards 38x71fg, 11x25 3s. Mustangs 25x74fg, 5x32 3s

    Oswego 74, Potsdam 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on December 01, 2007, 12:48:41 AM
Good win for Oswego.  Saw Potsdam and I thought they were athletic and possibly too tall for Oswego. Haven't  seen Oswego but heard about a scrimmage with Clarkson that was relatively close. Obviously not the same as a game but Potsdam handled Clarkson extremely easily so I thought Potsdam by 10.  Home court would eat some of that up but the bottom line is I still think it is a good win for the Lakers!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on December 01, 2007, 01:50:25 AM
"...Plattsburgh blows away hosts Morrisville 111-69..."

It could have been much worse.  With 9:02 left in the 2nd half, ( 87 48 PBurgh) the starters and 2nd team were out. The Freshman talent outplayed the M-ville regulars 24-21. M-ville played garbage time, chucking up air ball 3 pt attempts and one of there seniors was left in the game to "pad" his stats.

The biggest and most challenging tests for this team will be their visit to Chapman ( in California ) next month. This team was very good last year. They lost 3 seniors (one starter) and one transfer, and got stronger with the new comers.  The 6'9" RJ Ponesse will easily be a 1000 pt career player.  He is mobile, he has inside and outside moves, can make free throws (he will get many of them) and seems to have fit in well with this senior laden squad. A freshman Chris Ruiz was the first off the bench and plays like a Junior.
Anthony Williams is making NBA threes with ease.

They seem to like each other, respect each other, and accept their roles. Morrisville came out tough, but they are mostly freshman and sophomores who can leap, drive and are quick. They foul too much, take wild crazy shots and got frustrated easily by the pressure defense. However, they do have a great place with rowdy and energetic fans.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on December 01, 2007, 01:52:29 AM
"D. Errol 16 " <<< correction <<<  That would be   Errol  Daniyan  #4. Freshman from Coram.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on December 01, 2007, 01:58:24 AM
"...Milke sees 15' of court time for 4 pts(2x3fg)...."

A Palmyra Macedon HS graduate who played on the 2005 State Championship team as a sophomore.  A BIG load, I hope he has improved his work ethic and shed some baby fat.  He did have a quadruple double in a sectional game at Livonia.
Points, Rebounds, blocks and assists. Even had a dunk which shocked just about everyone in the gym.  Getting off the ground was not one of his strong points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2007, 09:14:35 AM

  Oswego up 42-28 at half on 17x32fg pops and commands 16 pt. lead early in second half. Potsdam battles back, leads at 6:19 on B. Graney pts. Then see-saw. OSt's D. White knots at 70 at 2:00 and K. Reuter ft's put Lakers over the top. OSt in last :15 misses four free flips though Pdam can't capitalize. Reuter 23 pts (3 3s); White 17 pts, 6 reb, 4 pf in 23'; N. Perioli 11 pts(3x3 3s), 5 assts, 5 reb; N. Jabbi 5 pt, 3 reb, 5pf in 23'. Lakers 27x59fg, 6x19 3s. Pdam's A. Dike 18 pts, 9 rebs; B. Siskavich 12 pts, 11 rebs in 24'(4pf); T. Reinhardt also foul-troubled (5pf, 20') with 12 pts; D. Brown 11 pts. Bears 27x59fg, 2x15 3s.

    Pburgh's RJ Ponesse 12pts(4x7fg) in 10'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2007, 10:10:36 PM

  Oswego drops 83-68 home test Saturday to Nazareth which connects on 31x54fg, 5x10 3s. Naz up 38-31 at half but Lakers tied 42-all before C. McAdam hoop sends guest ahead for keeps. OSt 25x75fg led by K. Reuter 15 pts, N. Perioli 15 pts. McAdam 15 pts, 7 assts, 6 reb

   Potsdam beaten at home by York 76-65. York, 5-3, unloads at 26x46fg rate and overcomes 33-31 Pdam edge at half. D. Brown 18 pts(5x12fg, 3x7 3s); B. Siskavich 13 pts, 4 assts; T. Reinhardt 11 pts, 6 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2007, 07:27:46 PM

  Cortland marches past Alfred 79-58 at Alfred Sunday afternoon. Forges ahead 6' minutes from halftime, holds 29-24 lead at the break and pushes margin to as much as 23. M. Lewis 14 pts, 11 rebs; J. Miolen 14 pts; C. Niehoff 13 pts, 9 rebs. Dragons up 44-29 on boards, shoot 27x64fg, 21x28ft. Alfs 21x46fg, 8x19 3s. G. Patt 15 pts(4x7 3s) for Saxons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2007, 10:17:14 PM

  Fredonia nabs first win with 57-56 Monday win at Pitt-Bradford. Down 28-27 at half. . R. Buckmon 16 pts(5x11fg, 2x6 3s), 5 rebs; B. Cooper 11 pts; K. Gordon 7 reb. Devils 20x44fg, 13x16ft and 35-27 reb edge. Freds 1-4, P-B 4-3

    SUNYIT stumbles 87-79 at home to Union. Both 2-3. Cats lead 43-39 at half, fall 10 down with 9' left. D. Golumbiowski 22 pts(7x17fg, 6x15 3s), 9 rebs; A. Edwards 16 pts, 7 assts, 9 trnvrs; L-K. Miller 12 pts; D. Moore 11 pts; M. Haynesworth 10 pts. Union 19x22ft paced by J. Lokitis 27 pts(9x13fg) in 28' bench time
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WICB Sports on December 04, 2007, 02:43:01 PM
Radio coverage of tonight's Ithaca-Cortland basketball games starts at 6 p.m. on 92 WICB (www.wicb.org) as the Ithaca women's team takes on the 24th-ranked Red Dragons.

On VIC Radio (www.vicradio.org), coverage of the men's game starts with Bombers Shootaround at 7:40 p.m. followed by tip-off of the men's game at 8 p.m.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2007, 05:27:00 PM

Joining tonight's 5-1 Cortland at 3-1 Ithaca non-conference test:

2-1 Brockport at home vs. 3-4 Robts Wesleyan
2-3 Potsdam at 1-3 St. Lawrence
4-0 Geneseo at 0-5 Alfred
1-3 Oneonta at 5-1 Hartwick
4-0 Plattsburgh at 2-4 Clarkson
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2007, 09:43:59 PM

  Cortland drops 62-53 decision at Ithaca in tale of two halves. CSt in 31-21 first half control before outscored at one stage 25-9. IC gets 19 pts from S. Burton, 13 from T. Brown, 10 from S. Leahy. J. Bostic 13 rebs, 4 pts

  Brockport 91, Roberts Wesleyan 77
  Potsdam 92, St. Lawrence 86

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bombersquadron on December 04, 2007, 10:22:46 PM
As Ithaca expected Cortland but up a great fight tonight. They came in and played very physical, pushed Ithaca around and slowed down the tempo of the game to limit Ithaca's offense. Cortland's bigs really beat up on Ithaca in the first half and were non-existent in the second half. Expected a better game from Niehoff and Miolan as i have seen them play before and they didn't play well tonight. Cortland is very young but talented and big, i think they will be a very good team next year if they get a PG.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2007, 10:28:23 PM
 
 Plattsburgh takes Clarkson 77-63. In charge 31-26 and quickly gain second half ground. A. Williams 22 pts(5x17fg, 11x13ft), 6 reb, 5 assts; T. Gorham 16 pts, 9 rebs; K. Hunt 11 pts

  Geneseo cruises past Alfred 80-63. Takes 38-29 lead at break and finishes 53%fg. J. Kling 17 pts(5x9fg), 7 rebs, 3x5 3s, 7 rebs, 4 assts; J. Howe 15 pts, 8 rebs; S. Morton 12 pts, 8 reb; T. Kitson 10 pts(5x12fg)

   Oneonta downs Hartwick 80-69

   Brockport gets 34 pts(13x20fg), 14 rebs, 3 assts, 5 stls from B. Williams in 33'. Eagles 32x66fg, 9x21 3s and hold 43-32 intermission margin. M. Wilkes 17 pts(5 3s); A. Poles 13 pts(4x6 3s). Bport 19 assts

    Potsdam overcomes 38-37 St. Lawrence halftime edge and has six score double figures, lands 31x64fg, 25x33ft. D. Brown 18 pts(9x10ft) in 22'; A. Williams 14 pts(5x10fg), 4 assts, 8 rebs, 4 stls; S. Clement 13 pts(5x7fg); B. Graney 12 pts(3x5fg) in 20'; B. Siskavich 11 pts; T. Reinhardt 10 pts. SL also has six strike for double figure pts. led by J. Sharlow 15
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bombersquadron on December 04, 2007, 10:30:16 PM
jdex, i see you are the main source of knowledge on the Sunyac board. Do you know much about Cortland, how come there are three seniors on the team who got zero minutes tonight and have not been a factor for them on the floor this entire season. Some of them saw playing time when Cortland went to the tourney a few years ago, what gives?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2007, 11:02:40 PM


   First, a few figures on tonight's slip at IC. Cortlands go 22x63fg (2x14 3s) and 8x35 in 2nd half. IC puts down 11x26fg in second half AND 17x17ft(20x21 for the game). W. Coston 15 pts(6x13fg), 3 stls in 29' for Dragons. Only double digit pointman. MIAs: C. Niehoff 5 pts, 2 rebs in 26'; M. Lewis 5 pts(2x5fg) in 30' = loss.

    CStaters have five seniors, all with multi-season experience but only backcourters D. Fish and M. Schaller have seen regular play in past years. Fish handles the point well, but is not a scorer. Schaller spells Fish and is more of a scoring threat. Are a big reason why Cortland game-in, game-out has few turnovers.
     As for the other seniors: M. Jankiewicz, J. Sargent, Q. Merritt. Quite simply they have never progressed. Believe 6-5 swingman Jankiewicz started his first game at Ithaca as a frosh. His court time is sparser by the season. Sargent at 6-8 has forever been a project. Also saw duty as a frosh. Merritt? A small muscular forward who just hasn't fit into the scheme of things, we guess.
     Coach Span has gone young .......Niehoff had terrific soph late season in 06-07. Lewis returns as potent inside soph and joins powerful 6-8 soph Oliver who came on last season. Add greatly improved soph Coston, returning jr guard Miolan, frosh Evans in backcourt and 6-8 fr Milke up front. This Cortland team is very, very streaky (as in youthful). In previous games it's startly slowly and finished fast, just the opposite of IC contest .....
     Well, you asked ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2007, 12:40:45 AM
   jdex, you are the best.  It sure is nice to know that when I want to find out a score, all I have to do is go online and you've got all the results. I don't know how you do it. And from what I gather you're down in Florida! I can't even get the Plattsburgh State scores half the time on the local tv station when they have the 11 oclock news. I went to the Plattsburgh St.-St. Lawrence game on Nov. 27th and came home to post the score but you, as usual, beat me to it. Plattsburgh has probably got the best team in school history this year (at least since the late 70's when Larry Parker and Ronnie Wright led the Cards to the final four) and they've only got 9 home games all year. It appears no one wanted to come here and face them this year.
    They play Oswego here this Friday and then we won't get to see them until Jan. 18th against SUNYIT. St. Lawrence is the only non-conference opponent  to visit Memorial Hall this year.
    Thanks again for all the time you spend keeping the SUNYAC fans up to date. If I can ever help you with any info on Plattsburgh let me know.
   On a side, note just found out that the Plattsburgh Men's and Women's hockey teams are both ranked No. 1 in the country. The Men's BB team was ranked No. 11 in the last poll. That's a lot of ones. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: reelentless on December 05, 2007, 09:14:53 AM
Jdex, any idea what's going on with Kevin Buono at Cortland?   I've seen him play in a league and believe he started at a DII last year.   When I heard he was going to Cortland I thought he'd have an immediate impact?   Hurt? Behind somebody?  He's certainly got the game to play at this level.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2007, 09:56:07 AM
   
   Catching up ........Oneonta balance kayoes Hartwick. Five Dragons score 10 or better: E. Arrington 14 pts(8x10ft); R. Stokes 12 pts, 3 stls, 8 rebs; R. Morin 12 pts(4x5fg); B. Fisk 10 pts(3x5 3s), 4pf in 16'; reserve M. Lane 10 pts(3x3fg, 2x2 3s) in 20'. OSt 37-19 at half. Clip cords at 24x52fg, 5x13 3s, 27x36ft, 37-27 reb advantage. Wick's A.J. Beaulieu 31 pts on 12x19fg. Other Hawks 12x35fg.
       From Monday, Fredonia first win comes on B. Cooper 1-and-1ft makes at :04.9. Devils come from 7 back late in duel of coaching bros

      Magicman: Feel free to express re potent Cards anytime. While they're nat'lly ranked 11 by D3.com, Bports are 16th

       Relentless: Difficult to break in immediately under Span. A taskmaster of the first order. That said, couple of frosh (in particular backcourter R. Evans) have seen more time than soph transfer Buono. Yes, he started 25 games for Dominican and was No. 1 in assists. Briefly got in Sunday's game at Alfred. Saw same type of duty in two other outings. If he works and is a player, he plays has been our opinion over Span's span. His dad's CSt grad
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2007, 09:59:44 AM

     By the way, meant to mention Jan. 26 as date for  ......... Bport at the 'Burgh
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on December 05, 2007, 03:06:12 PM
"..(at least since the late 70's when Larry Parker and Ronnie Wright led the Cards to the final four)..."

That team took everyone by surprise with two superior talented players.  Larry Parker's almost 17 rebounds a game average and Ronnie Wright's  Earl Monroe 1-on-1 abilities.    Freshman Mike Green, Darryl Hutson and Tony Pettioni's excellent play as well as Tom Rice's rebounding.   They got hot at the right time and won all but 1 league game (Lost by 1 point to Oswego in Oswego.  FYI - Mike Deane's first lost as a head coach, Norm Law missed that game). 

The 1978-79 team with Dan Theiss at point, Paul Einsmann and Kevin Baldwin at forwards, Darryl Hutson, Tony Pettioni, Isiah Harris getting significant playing time, trasnfer Joe Porcelli from Brockport shooting and making threes before there was a three point line. we were 9-2 in league play and didn't go to the NCAA tournament only because of the screwed up tri-champions format.  They played Potsdam 2 times (geographic assignment of games) and lost but beat everyone else.  Potsdam lost to Albany and someone else, and Albany lost to Oneonta.   18-9 with two loses to Division II schools  NY Tech and ?.    Also we beat Division I University of Vermont for the first win of the season.  Even being outrebounded  something like 40 to 17 and Einsmann fouling out with 10 minutes to go.

Considering the number of years between then and now, the NOW team MAY BE the best team I have seen, but they will need to win everything before getting that title.  Watching this current team destroy Morrisville with even the end of the bench outscoring some Morrisville top players in the final 9 minutes, the chance of that looks to be possible.  The trip to California will be the "big" test.   It will be worth the trip up north to see the Brockport and Plattsburgh at Memorial Hall.   It will bring back memories of being Potsdam in 75-76 and Albany in 78-79. IN those games the gym was packed, people were watching broadcasts in filled building classrooms and the atmosphere was magnificent.   Having the best seat in the house and knowing the preparation that the players did before those games was a special deal. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 05, 2007, 08:03:08 PM
Ah Yes - remember it well. 

I think that a lot of Ronny Wright's development was in large part courtesy of Deane, who taught him how to play in control and run a jailbreak fast break.  Mike was still playing at a very high (near NBA/ABA) level in those days, used to routinely score 40+ in semipro games, and really helped Wright's development.

Parker was indeed a specimen, probably the best rebounder inch for inch in the history of D-III hoops.  Stats were padded a bit in those days before deadball and team rebounds, but the man could sky.

78-79 was the year Potsdam made their first trip to the final four, and lost a close one (66-62) to North Park (during their three title run).  Potsdam was 22-7, 2 of the losses were to D-II, LeMoyne and Hartwick. 

Potsdam won the Regionals beating a heavily favored Stony Brook squad at SB, then reversed an earlier loss to arch-rival St. Lawrence in the regional finals.  Conference losses were at Albany, at Oneonta, teams only played once except for closest geographic rival.

'78-79 Potsdam team was lead by eventual 1st team AA's Ed Jachim & Derrick Rowland, who lead Bears to the nat'l title in '80-81.

The two games vs. Plattsburgh were not particularly close that year, Bears won 65-53 in 'burgh, then 80-63 at Potsdam.

One other factoid - The '74-75 team was the only Plattsburgh team to ever beat (77-75) Jerry Welsh.  His career record from '70-91 vs Cards was 37-1.

'Burgh is indeed talented, but SUNYAC is very tough this year.  'port, Geneseo, both forces to be reckoned with, 'burgh has to play them back to back.  Buff State, Potsdam, Oswego, Cortland all capable of testing any team on their schedule. 

Remember last year, when an underachieving Potsdam team took Cards to 2OT, and Bears had a wide open layup opportunity in the final second before losing by a point.

Takes luck, skill, avoiding injuries, and often a healthy dose of home court to make a deep run into the D-III playoffs.  If 'burgh were to advance & host SUNYAC's or NCAA's, would they move games back to Stafford given seating capacity of Memorial Hall?

Bears & 'burgh are scheduled 1/29 in Potsdam and 2/9 in 'burgh.  Hope to see ya there.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on December 06, 2007, 12:54:19 PM
"...Parker was indeed a specimen, probably the best rebounder inch for inch in the history of D-III hoops.  Stats were padded a bit in those days before deadball and team rebounds, but the man could sky..."

No rebounding stats were ever "padded" for Larry and dead ball and team rebounds were being recorded.  In fact, if anything
they were scruitinized even more.  Back in those days most away games stats were coming from the home team and not Plattsburgh scorers.(74-75). Especially in the NCAA games.  Every award Larry got he earned. His body used to be bruised up pretty bad by mid season. In his senior year he was MVP of the SUNYAC only playing part of the season.  Some thug from Cortland sent Larry to the hospital by fracturing Larry's eye socket with an elbow. The jerk didn't help him up, didn't find out his condition after the game nothing.  Larry missed our last seven games and I think the last 3 conference games and was on a pace to get big numbers again.

I agree, Mike Deane's influence was alive and well that year and in following years. The Police League games in Plattsburgh were fantastic games with Mike, Larry, Ronnie, Einsmann, Baldwin, Drew Skornberg from St Lawrence, Ted Bence from Potsdam and many other North country seniors.   The Albany team "Patricks" used to hire some CBA players and players like Larry Fogel from Canisus, the Lee brothers (Jim and Mike) from Syracuse.  Warren Premus from UVM showed up a couple of years. Hal Cowan from Syracuse played one year.

The most enjoyable part was watching Mike Deane and Ted Bence eat younger opponents alive with give and gos and behind the back passes.


"The two games vs. Plattsburgh were not particularly close that year, Bears won 65-53 in 'burgh, then 80-63 at Potsdam.

the 65-53 win was aided by a certain man who seemed to always be assigned to Potsdam games, Bob Hollenbeck.  It always amazed me how Larry, Ronnie,  Kevin Baldwin and Paul Einsmann could play other games with 3 fouls in the whole game, but when we played Potsdam, any one of them would have 2 before 8 minutes left in the 1st half.  It's over and done with, and I have fond memories of yelling back at Mr. Welch and telling him to sit down and shut up.  They could have beat us without any help, real or otherwise.

"Takes luck, skill, avoiding injuries, and often a healthy dose of home court to make a deep run into the D-III playoffs.  If 'burgh were to advance & host SUNYAC's or NCAA's, would they move games back to Stafford given seating capacity of Memorial Hall?"

If St John Fisher can host NCAA rounds in their tiny little elementary school gym, Memorial Hall is just fine. And as far as Home Court goes, with only 9 home games I doubt that will make much of a difference.  We never had a "home advantage" when I was a student.  Bob Garrow went out of his way to be fair even though he was a Plattsburgh alumnus.  And if any school knows "Home Cooking" better it is Potsdam  :o ;D   Actually I take that back, Norwich Academy had more of an edge.  They used to have the opponents locker room near the outside door. And the one window in the room was cracked open because "it was broken"  yeah right.  And with 100's of cadets screaming all night long it was not an easy place to play.  You really had to be on your game against future military commanders. They had one big kid, Kevin something?  He gave us fits, but had little talent to help him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2007, 02:12:50 PM
Cards 7580 +k.

The Deane/Bence tandem on out of bounds plays & the pick & roll was a thing of beauty.  Blink & ya missed it.  People forget that they were playing when college hoops was only two divisions, college & university.  Conference was a real monster back then, NBA star Randy Smith, Norm Bounds, the Gilliam & Pannaggio Brothers, and top college division coaches as well, Welsh, Roy Chipman, Paul Evans, Rollie Massimino, Bill Musselman to name a few.

I think you meant Canton native (now Dr.) Hal Cohen, son of longtime (33years) Potsdam assistant Stan Cohen.

I agree, Bob Garrow was a very fair ref, and a gentleman, a real class act.  Then there was Wally >:(.  I think in those days, the refs and coaches were probably too close in some ways, many of them worked at the same place, or had gone to school together.  Too often they could be seen socializing after the game.

I used to keep stats in that era.  As I've said, Parker was the best rebounder inch for inch that I've seen, but things were a lot looser, no Statcrew, and the shots/rebounds reconciliation was just coming out at that time.  Often the only time "official" stats were published were in NCAA games, each team did their own thing.  The only stat you could take to the bank back then was points, everything else at the D-III level could be manipulated.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on December 06, 2007, 05:26:28 PM
"...Often the only time "official" stats were published were in NCAA games, each team did their own thing.  The only stat you could take to the bank back then was points, everything else at the D-III level could be manipulated...."

And I WAS the official book keeper and statistician for Plattsburgh during those years, and I CAN TELL YOU that NOT ONE rebound was "padded" for Larry.  Not ONE assist was "padded" for Dan Theiss.  I read the NCAA guidelines and followed them to the letter for exactly the situation you just accused ME about. What was done by other schools, I cannot speak about. But for you to ASSUME that statistics were "padded" at Plattsburgh without being "in the know" is pretty lame. 

So in what games did I "pad" the rebounds?  I would really like to know?

I will take my honesty to the any bank you want.  However Potsdam might have "crossed those lines" in those days I can only go by my observations of court-side personnel. If "padding" did go on there, it wouldn't surprise me much after observing  how Jerry Welsh would openly recruiting players outside of the PBA tournament.  It's amazing what he pulled out of his trunk.  I can't speak of who might have cheated or bent the rules in the coaching staff, but MY work was by the book.  Believe me, I had many a player dispute numbers with me, and I always won. Nothing was added to make a player "happy".  And as far as rebounds go, if I missed who it was, it was counted as a team rebound or deadball.

One real big reason why WE all took our jobs seriously is because at one game during a season before I got there the manager used to pre-enter the names into the score book. One game, in a hurry and just wrote the numbers next to names and forgot one player was not going to play. Somehow the numbers were off by one.  The error wasn't caught until the first substitution by Plattsbugh.  When the error was discovered, the opponent was awarded one technical for each mis-match (I think the number was 8 or 9).  So after that EVERY game the players had to our scorers their uniform number before it was written in the book. 

I apologise to the Cohen family for messing up their name.  Mr. Cohen was always a sportsman and gentleman to me.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2007, 07:40:05 PM
Point taken.  I had retired by the '75-76 season, and was in grad school.  Not accusing you of padding anything.  Also not questioning anyone's honesty, just that everything was done by hand, and not as accurate as today's numbers.

As for allegations regarding Coach Welsh, I would say that a school's lifetime record of 1-37 against a coach of an arch rival would generate all shape and manner of jealousy. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2007, 10:20:02 PM

  SUNYIT devours Paul Smith's 89-67 on Thursday evening. Up 39-28 at intermission, margin never shrinks to single digits. D. Hahn 14 pts, 11 rebs for IT whose M. Haynesworth nets 14 pts; D. Moore 13 pts; D. golembiowski 12 pts, 11 rebs; A. Edwards 10 pts. Cats 3-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2007, 05:25:48 PM

   East meets West this evening:

   4-1 Oswego at 5-0 Plattsburgh
   3-1 Brockport at 2-3 Oneonta
   2-1 Buffalo St. at 5-2 Cortland
   5-0 Geneseo at 2-4 New Paltz
   1-2 Morrisville at 3-3 Potsdam
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 07, 2007, 07:26:20 PM
Wasn't it the SUNY  Pattsburgh's men's ice hockey that wasn't allowed to play in  NCAA tournament for breaking NCAA  rules.  I can't remember Potsdam ever being sanctioned by the NCAA.  I wasn't around for the 70's {still in elementary/middle school}, but I did enjoy many games from 83-86(32-0 NCAA Champs).  Jerry Welsh won many games and graduated many players. Many have gone on to do great things.  He has always been a class act.  The one thing about Potsdam being  small in size is that the players lived with us,  they were friends with us,  they went to school with us, won games for us, and graduated with us.  This is what makes Potsdam a great place to go to school and why  many of the Alumni keep giving back to the school. Even when the temp was never above zero for most of the second semester.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2007, 09:50:04 PM

   Geneseo 62, New Paltz 41
   Cortland 77, Buffalo St. 73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2007, 10:13:32 PM

   Geneseo lights up host New Paltz. J. Howe 20 pts (hits first 6 of 7fg), 8 rebs; J. Kling 16 pts; T. Kitson 11 pts; S. Morton 9 assts

    Cortland outlasts Buffalo St., whose Bengals out to 18-8 lead. Triggered by frosh R. Evans off the bench, Corts zoom to 40-35 halftime lead but need second half rally. Up by 9 late, homestanding Dragons hold on. Evans goes for 20 pts. Also get strong game from 6-8 fr. Milke in reserve role

     Brockport 79, Oneonta 74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2007, 10:55:15 PM

  Plattsburgh 86, Oswego 81

  Brockport challenged at Oneonta, whose Dragonsin 69-69 tie at 2:16. J. Clarke '3' at 2' puts Eagles up and they connect on 7x8ft in stretch. Bport in 12-0 control and hold 39-33 edge at half. OSt takes 47-46 and 57-56 leads. M. Wilkes answers both times with treys. Wilkes 25 pts, 17 in 2nd half. B. Williams 18 pts, 8 rebs; Clarke 10 ts

  Cortland's Evans 8x15fg, 2x6 3s, 3 assts in 25'. CSt 33x69fg, 41-36reb. J. Miolan off sidelines for 13 pts, 7 rebs, 3 assts, 3 stls in 26'; P. Oliver 11 pts(5x9fg). Milke in 21' has 7 pts(3x3fg), 5 rebs, 4 assts, 2 blks. M. Lewis and C. Niehoff 5pf each. Nine Dragons see between 15 and 26'. BS 27x63fg, 1x13 3s, 18x25ft to Corts 4x9. D. Mozelle 27 pts(11x20fg), 8 rebs; J. Gray 19 pts(8x15fg), 4stls, 3 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2007, 11:06:40 PM

  Potsdam shoots down Morrisville 87-66, building on 39-30 halftime lead. A. Dike 17 pts(7x10fg), 10 reb, 3 assts, 6 trnvrs. D Brown 15 pts(4x9fg); B. Graney 10 pts(5x8fg); A. Williams 10 pts(4x9fg); B. Siskavich 10 pts(4x8fg). Bears 35x64fg. Twelve Pdamers score. Mville 24x62fg. D. Spencer 25 pts(8x21fg, 8x15ft)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2007, 11:25:28 PM

    Plattsburgh reverses 46-43 Oswego halftime lead. Cards by 73-62 with 6+ minutes left. OSt shaves to 82-81 before A. Williams 1x2ft. Lakers miss tie attempt in closing seconds. Burgh ft's clinch. Platts 34x75fg and 58-39reb. Williams 24 pts(8x22fg, 5x11 3s), 5 assts in 40'; K. Hunt 22 pts(9x19fg), 16 rebs; T. Gorham 21 pts(8x11fg), 14 rebs; A. Miller 5 assts. OSt 28x77fg, 22x24ft, 6 trnvrs. M. Jabbi 25 pts; K. Reuter 14 pts; N. Perioli 14 pts, 7 assts in 40'; T. Downing 13 pts; D. White 11 rebs, 9 pts, 5pf in 21'

      Bport 27x66fg, 5x17 3s,  outboarded 49-41. Wilkes 8x14fg; B. Williams 6 of Eagles 14 stls. Oneonta's M. Grimes 18 pts(7x14fg), 14 rebs in 29'.  R. Fitzgerald 16 pts(10x12ft), 4 stls; B. Fisk 14 pts(5x9fg, 2x6 3s)
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2007, 11:42:38 PM
 
   Great game tonite at Memorial Hall in Pburgh. Oswego jumped out to an early lead against the Cards and maintained it for most of the 1st half. Cards finally caught them around the 3 min. mark but Lakers managed to grab the lead 46-43 at the half. Oswego stretched it to a 6 pt. lead and the Cards responded with a run of their own to open up their biggest lead of the nite at 70-60. Lakers fought back to close it 83-81 with a chance to tie it or win with 10 sec. left but Nick Perioli missed a 2 pt jumper and Plattsburgh knocked down 3 foul shots to clinch it.
  Anthony Williams led the Cards with 24 points followed by Travis Gorham and Khylan Hunt with 21 each. Mahamoud Jabbi tossed in a game high 25 points to lead the Lakers followed by Kyle Reuter and Perioli with 14 each. Tommy Downing also hit double figures with 13 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on December 08, 2007, 03:32:54 PM
Brockport survives the 1st semester with a 4-1  2-0 (sunyac) record without 3 starters. With the addition of all american sherod harris, cantrel parish and maldonado this team will be TOUGH!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2007, 06:10:43 PM

  1-4 Fredonia at 3-3 SUNYIT have conference stage to themselves Saturday night

  A pair of N-Cers: 2-5 New Paltz at home vs. 3-5 John Jay, 4-3 Potsdam entertaining 1-5 Clarkson

   Bports, ya think ..........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2007, 08:48:11 PM

  New Paltz downs John Jay 68-65. NP rises from 35-33 deficit at half to seize 61-52 lead, then holds fast. L. Bertram 22 pts, 10 rebs; K. Nelson 16 pts, 12 rebs; M. Hauser 15 pts, 8 assts

  Potsdam suffers 54-50 indignity to Clarkson, which more than reverses mid-November humiliating 71-51 loss to Pdam for tourney title. Bears 19x49fg, 2x11 3s, 10x21ft. T. Reinhardt only double figure scorer with 13 pts(5x10fg), 5pf in 27'. A. Dike 9 pts(3x8fg); B. Williams 6 rebs. tops team. B. Siskavich 6 pts(2x8fg) in 35' after 24 pts and mvp showing in earlier matchup. Clarkson 16x34fg, 6x17 3s, 16x24ft to overcome 26 trnvrs. B. Linton 16 pts, 8 trnvrs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2007, 09:04:59 PM
Just back from Potsdam-Clarkson game.  Reversal was in part due to personnel.  Potsdam leading scorer Damon Brown, (13 ppg) and top frontcourt reserve Brendan Graney (9 ppg/5 rpg) did not dress due to injuries sustained last night.
Clarkson in earlier contests was missing front court reserves Ryan Smith & Jonathan Hood who compbined for 6 rebs & 5 points in 29'.

Clarkson led by 8 at half, Potsdam clawed back to lead by one, but the Clarkson maintained a 1-4 point lead the rest of the way.  Bears had opportunities to close down the stretch, but balky foul shooting (10x21 after 12x13 the night before) doomed the hosts.  26 fouls in contest didn't help undermanned Potsdam club either.

Bears now off for Finals & Holiday break until 1/3 at Keystone.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2007, 10:55:12 PM

  Fredonia climbs over SUNYIT 76-59. Devils never trail; lead 41-31 midway. Finish 30x71fg, 6x19 3s, 24x27ft, 51-38reb separation. B. Cooper 21 pts(7x20fg, 3x8 3s), 5 reb; J. Bryant 15 pts(6x10fg), 7 reb; R. Buckmon 11 pts(5x12fg), 12 rebs. IT 20x58fg, 8x23 3s. A. Edwards 10 pts(2x11fg); D. Golembiowski 8 pts(3x11fg); M. Haynesworth 3x10fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on December 09, 2007, 08:54:30 PM
With Plattsburgh and Bport the clear front-runners for the 'Yac, and deservedly so...don't sleep on a very good Geneseo team.  They should likely be 8-0 heading into the Chase and have knocked off a few pretty decent teams thus far.  There aren't too many teams that claim to have a better 4some than Morton, Kling, Howe, and Kitson (averaging about 60ppg between the 4 of them)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on December 10, 2007, 03:15:25 AM
Haven't seen Geneseo but a smart well disciplined team that can handle a nasty zone trap press may have a chance  against a very athletic Plattsburgh.  Obviously B-port will be nasty when the whole crew comes back but sometimes it takes a few games to "jell".  Don't ever count out the Lakers from Oswego either, especially at home. It looks like the SUNYAC is the toughest NY league this year, but there is still plenty of basketball to be played.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 14, 2007, 11:02:35 PM

From Friday ....

  Oneonta knocks off host Greensboro, NC  71-60. OSt 23x45fg, 19x27ft, 6x12 3s. Up 32-29 at half. R. Fisk 15 pts(4x8fg, 3x6 3s); R. Morin 14 pts(5x11fg); R. Stokes 12 pts(4x6fg). Wins despite 28 trnrvs. Greensboro 4-4

   Oswego over Hilbert 79-74 to move into final of RIT tourney vs. host (95-80 over D'Youville). Lakers in 40-35 lead at half. Go 30x64fg, 8x19 3s. M. Jabbi 22 pts(10x18fg), 11 rebs, 3 blks for soph; N. Perioli 17 pts, 9 assts, 5 stls; T. Downing 16 pts(5x9fg, 3x5 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 15, 2007, 05:19:08 PM

  From Saturday:

  Oneonta sweeps Carolina with 82-79 OT conquering of Averett in Greensboro. Dragons down 34-29 at half, outboard foe 50-31. M. Grimes 19 pts(9x13fg), 10 reb; E. Arrington 14 pts(5x6fg); R. Fisk 13 pts; R. Morin 14pts(6x11fg)

   Oswego wins RIT tourney with 81-68 beating of RIT. Lakers shake free from 38-all halftime knot. T. Downing mvp, strikes for 21 pts. All tourney are M. Jabbi (14 pts) and N. Perioli (7 pts, 10 assts). K. Reuter 12 pts; D. White 10 pts. OSt 30x64fg

    Buffalo State whips Worester St. 94-76 in BS tourney. Bengals 37x64fg and lead 47-34 at break. Fourteen BSers score. J. Gray 17 pts(7x11fg); A. Samedi 14 pts(6x9fg), 6 rebs; D. Mozelle 12 pts(4x6fg) in 20'; A. Carter 11 pts(5x5fg)
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Post by: jdex on December 15, 2007, 10:14:55 PM

  And .....

   Fredonia wins third straight in 62-60 style over Medaille as frosh J. Bryant hits deciding hoop at buzzer. W. Davis 13 pts; R. Buckmon 13 pts; K. Gordon 12 pts, 10 rebs, 3 blks. Devils overtake 27-27 halftime deficit. Connect on 24x50fg and own 37-25 boards. Medaille 6-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on December 15, 2007, 11:20:06 PM
Mike Deane  - All American at Potsdam State  has won his 400th career win as a college coach.

His Wagner team defeated MD-Eastern Shore  105-86 for their 6th win of the year against 3 defeats.

Mike was an assistant at Plattsburgh during the 75-76 NCAA final four appearance, coached at Delhi Tech, Oswego State, Siena College, Marquette University and Lamar (TX) before ending up at Wagner.  He also had a stint as assistant coach at Michigan State under Jud Heathcoat.    Did I leave anything out Bear fans ?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 16, 2007, 01:39:54 PM
He was also a pretty fine player, College (pre-D-III) All-American, First College Player to record 1,000 assists in four seasons,  Was Potsdam's All-Time leading scorer when he graduated.  Used to run the prettiest fast break you would ever see.  Signature move was a reverse pivot on the dribble followed by a no-look pass for a layup.  Drafted by Milwaukee (NBA) and last player cut in '74 by the Utah Jazz.  Played semi-pro and CBA while still coaching until the early 80's.  Potsdam won 20+ all three years he played there, against scholarship teams (later D-II) like LeMoyne, Hartwick,Siena).

At Michigan State he was responsible for the development of Scott Skiles into an NBA Star and now head coach.  His replacement when he left to take the head job at Siena was Tom Izzo.

He also has a reputation as a no-bs coach, who graduates his players.  He has led three different teams to the Big Dance, and his Wagner team this year is a favorite in the NEC. 

Thanks for the mention, no one has worked harder to get this far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 18, 2007, 12:43:34 AM
My congratulations as well to Mike Deane on his 400th win. I was a team manager at Siena for Mike during his first two seasons there (1986-87 and 1987-88) - we were an NIT team my senior year (they waited until I graduated, of course, before going to the NCAAs the following year and beating Stanford!!)

Mike is definitely one of the most interesting people I've ever worked with. It took me a while to get used to his straight-forward approach (he always spoke his mind, had us call him "Mike" instead of "Coach", etc.). Once I got accustomed to his personality, though, he was great to me and a lot of fun to be around. He could still play very well in his early years at Siena, which we got to see on occasion before or after practices or in other pick-up situations.

In my opinion, Mike's greatest strength as a coach was (and is) the ability to make individuals better. I saw him take OK shooters and make them very good ones. I think his in-game coaching skills got better and better each year as well, and Siena's successes indicate that.

I was lucky enough to do some sports info work and basketball camp work at Siena for a couple of years after I graduated, so I got a chance to deal with him even more. I'm glad he's doing well at Wagner and wish him the best this season. I enjoy hearing stories from other posters about Mike's collegiate playing days, which were obviously a little bit before my time.

Fran Elia
Cortland SID
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 18, 2007, 11:31:52 PM

    Plattsburgh 65, Chapman, CA 63 at Chapman. Chapman 7-4. Unbeaten Cards meet Occidental at Chapman (Orange, CA) on Wednesday. Occidental over Pacific Union 77-40. Pairings predetermined
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 19, 2007, 07:34:09 AM


    Plattsburgh holds on after leading 26-22 at half and by 11 thereafter. Chapman within a point till A. Williams ft at :01 seals it. Williams 31 pts(9x14fg, 3x7 3s, 10x12ft, 1techfl). R. Rider 10pts(3x3fg, 2x2 3s). Cards 23x44fg, 5x12 3s, 14x18ft, outboarded 32-24, only 5 assts. First Chapman home loss and snaps 8 game win streak at home .............

    We're northbound .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Browneagle64 on December 19, 2007, 12:04:36 PM
Best of luck to Plattsburgh today against the men in orange and black. Oxy sure will take this game from the start of first buzzer.  8)

Btw, expect to hear that Oxy 6-10 Soph. Sean Anderson will record a double- double today.
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Post by: Cards7580 on December 19, 2007, 12:07:57 PM
Williams Pours in 31 Points in Cardinals' Win
ORANGE, Calif. -   Preseason All-American Anthony Williams scored a season-high 31 points to lead all players as No. 14 Plattsburgh State escaped with a 65-63 victory Tuesday over host Chapman University in the Tiger-Panther Classic.  The Cardinals improve to 7-0 while the Panthers fall to 7-4.

Williams scored Plattsburgh's last five points, including a free throw with 1 second left, to ice the victory.  He was 9-of-14 from the field and 10-of-12 at the free throw line.

Ricky Rider also reached double figures with 10 points for the Cardinals, who made 23 of 44 field goal attempts for 52.3 percent.

Chapman was led by Kyle Wood and Jared Kaiser with 16 and 11 points, respectively.  Brian Salanger (8 points) led all rebounders with seven.

Plattsburgh led 26-22 at halftime, and built a 10-point advantage, 51-41, on a Chris Ruiz jumper with 8 minutes and 4 seconds left in the game.

But Chapman battled back and cut the deficit to 64-63 on a pair of free throws by Wood after Williams was whistled for a technical foul with 19 seconds remaining.  The Panthers, however, couldn't get a shot off on the game's final possession.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2007, 08:14:10 PM
Just heard that Occidental beat Plattsburgh. Didn't get any specifics on the game.

Figured it would be a tough task to win both games out west. Especially after the Cards had a tough game against Chapman the night before while Oxy took on some creme puff called Pacific Union. I think they were a junior college. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2007, 08:23:42 PM
Occidental 69 Plattsburgh State 64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BrockportStylus on January 02, 2008, 09:54:59 AM
Both Brockport (@ D2 Clarion) and Geneseo (@ Elmira) start their second semester tonight, and the Chase Tournament a week away. The Golden Eagles have six games in 10 days before starting SUNYAC play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2008, 09:01:22 PM

  Geneseo 71, Elmira 59
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2008, 09:08:40 PM

  Geneseo at 7-0 by stopping Elmira, which trails 40-24 at half. S. Morton 15 pts, 7 assts; J. Howe 14 pts; J. Kling 8 reb
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2008, 09:35:38 PM


   Brockport falls 92-84 to Clarion ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2008, 10:21:01 PM


     Bport down 36-32 at half and 66-48 with 8:16 left before rallying withing 76-70 at 1:34. Clarion 11x12ft in stretch. Sherod Harris 29 pts. in first game; B. Williams 15 pts, 11 rebs, 5 assts. Bport 36fls, 25 trnvrs. D2 Clarion 6-4 and fifth straight win
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 03, 2008, 01:56:47 AM
Looks like Harris got in some technical foul trouble reminiscent of the elite 8 last year...

http://brockport.edu/athletics/news.php?id=688
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2008, 09:25:53 PM
 

   Potsdam 68, Keystone 66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2008, 09:36:53 PM

   Potsdam rallies behind D. Brown's 19 pts(5 3s). Bears down by eight at half and 55-45. Brown gets 56-56 tie, then puts Pdam up for keeps 59-56. Bears 8x12 3s in final half after 0x10 in opening period. N. Gideon 10 pts; B. Graney 13 rebs. Pdam 41-21 board stranglehold. Both sides 5-4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 04, 2008, 10:27:23 PM


    Cortland clubs host Clarkson 67-44 to run record to 7-2. Red Dragons race to 42-22 halftime lead and coast on 27x54fg, 42-32reb. W. Coston 17 pts(7x11fg) in 23'; M. Lewis 15 pts, 7 rebs; R. Evans 9 pts(3x6fg). CSt jumps to 12-0 lead. Coston scores 14 pts in 1st half, Lewis 13 pts, 6 rebs in same span. Clarkson 14x47fg and falls to 2-6

    Brockport beaten at Hamilton 72-62. Eagles with 23 trnvrs to Conts 9. Ham by 28-27 at break. Bport 24x52fg, 39-31reb. Sherod Harris 14 pts(6x11fg), 5pf in 28'; M. Wilkes 13 pts(4x8fg), 3x5 3s), 5 assts; C. Parrish 10 pts(5x9fg), 4 reb in 17'. Hamilton 25x58fg. Bport 4-3, Hamilton 5-3

     Plattsburgh tumbles 80-62 to Gordon, MA in Union tourney opener. Both teams 7-2. Pburgh in 2nd straight slip. Trails 37-20 at half. Pulls within eight. Shoots 21x54fg. A. Williams 16 pts(3x11fg), 9x10ft); T. Gorham 14 pts(5x9fg); A. Miller 12 pts(4x8fg). Union over Purchase 86-63

      Buffalo State loses 67-56 at Merchant Marine. Bengals 17x67fg. Down 35-26 at half. D. Mozelle 14 pts(5x17fg), 11 reb; A. Samedi 13 pts(5x7fg), 8 reb. MM 22x67fg, 12x34 3s. BS 3-3, MM 2-7
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2008, 06:54:44 PM

  Brockport slump lingers in 86-78 loss at St. Lawrence. Port 4-4, SL 3-6. Eagles ahead 32-30 at half before yielding to SL 17x31fg accuracy in second half. Saints up by as many as 11. Go 31x61fg to Bport 29x66 (9x20 3s). Sherod Harris 25 pts(9x14fg, 3x6 3s), 4 stls in 29'; M. Wilkes 15 pts(6x13fg, 3x6 3s) in 26'; B. Williams 16 pts(7x17fg) in 30'

   Plattsburgh 98, Purchase 61 in Union tourney consi. All-star A. Williams 27 pts(9x18fg, 7x13 3s), 5 assts, 4 stls in 28'; T. Gorham 12 pts, 11 rebs; A. Miller 12 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assts; R. Rider 10 pts. Cards 36x77fg, 51 rebs. Lead 48-34 at break. Gordon takes title from hosts 60-49

     Buffalo St. bows at NYU 70-62. Violets 8-2, Buffs 3-4.

     Geneseo stays perfect with 74-59 spilling of guest Pitt-Bradford
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2008, 10:46:30 PM

  Geneseo to 8-0, best start since mid-90s, as Knights gallop to 17-4 edge and hold 32-24 margin at half. PB ties at 38 setting up 10-0 Gen run. Knights 30x55fg, 39-26reb. J. Howe 17 pts, 11 rebs; S. Morton 16 pts; J. Kling 10 pts(4x5fg), 5 assts, 3 stls. PB 7-4

  Buffalo St. down 35-30 at half. A. White 15 pts(6x9fg) in 28'; A. Samedi 14 pts(5x8fg); D. Mozelle 8 pts(3x5fg) in 29'. NYU 8-2, BS 3-4

  Fredonia ugly 38-31 victims at PS-Behrend, which overtakes 20-12 Freds lead at half. Devils 13x33fg and 4x13 in second half. PS-B 12x42fg. S. Valenta off bench to lead Freds with 7 pts(3x3fg) in 14'. K. Gordon, G. MacBride, K. Saunders 6reb each

  Morrisville on short side of 77-55 tote to Westfield St. at Regis, MA tourney opener. Stangs 1-4, WS 8-3. Villes in 35-25 halftime hole. W. Jackson 18 pts(6x15fg). Shoot 19x53fg. Play St. Joe's, NY in Sunday consi. Regis, 6-5, outguns Joe's 82-67

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2008, 09:16:12 PM

   Oneonta on Sunday defeats Keuka 75-72 to hike record to 5-4 at expense of 2-5 Keuks. OSt zooms to 52-30 lead at half on 19x33fg pops. Finishes 27x63fg, 8x25 3s, outboarded 43-36. R. Fisk 15 pts(6x10fg, 3x6 3s), 5pf in 16'; S. Gillette 14 pts(5x8fg, 3x6 3s); M. Grimes 11 pts(5x10fg), 8 rebs in 23'; E. Arrington 10 pts(3x6fg); R. Fitzgerald 7 rebs, 9 pts

   Fredonia drops 59-50 issue to Hilbert which breaks free of 29-29 knot at half. Devils 19x41fg. K. Gordon 12 pts(5x7fg) in 29'; A. Smith 10 pts(4x6fg); K. Saunders 10 rebs
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Post by: jdex on January 06, 2008, 09:27:25 PM

  Morrisville wins consi 87-70 over St. Joe's, NY at Regis, MA tourney. In 43-28 ruling stance at break. D. Spencer 18 pts(7x14fg, 0x5 3s); W. Jackson 18 pts(7x13fg, 3x6 3s), 5 assts, 3 stls; A. Olasokan 11 pts(4x9fg); G. Vaughn 10 pts(5x10fg)
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 07, 2008, 10:25:05 PM

   Buffalo St. tumbles 80-68 to The College of New Jersey on Monday night. Bengals trail 41-37 at half despite 16x29fg (finish 27x62). Outboarded 37-29. S. LaMar 11 pts; fr. M. Maloney 11 pts, 5 rebs in 9' second half; J. Gray 10 pts; D. Mozelle 9 pts, 7 rebs. TCNJ 30x58fg in running record to 4-6. BS 3-5
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Post by: jdex on January 08, 2008, 10:39:56 AM

     Comes word from Cortland of Jan. 5 passing of venerable Whitney T. "Pete" Corey at 88. In various capacities -- student, athlete, teacher, multi-sport coach, administrator (including acting president), he touched Cortland college for 40+ years. Directed Red Dragons hoops 11 seasons (146-77);  won pair of SUNYAC titles including conference's first. Current gym bears his name. Was native of Mohawk, NY, which also produced in early '60s another of Cortland's all-timers -- basketball's Dave Bleau. He was coached by Pete, one of the finest gentleman we've ever met.
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Post by: jdex on January 08, 2008, 09:50:26 PM

  Oswego on short end of 97-88 score at St. Lawrence whose 4-6 Saints last weekend topped Bport. OSt 6-3 and up 42-36 at half. SL bench outscores Laker reserves 32-2. Oswego 34x68fg, 10x19 3s, 10x12ft, 26-33reb. T. Downing 26 pts(10x13fg, 5x6 3s), 4 reb in 32'; K. Reuter 23 pts(7x13fg, 3x7 3s, 6x7ft; M. Jabbi 18 pts(9x19fg); N. Perioli 14 pts(5x13fg, 2x4 3s), 5 reb, 5 assts, 0 trnvrs. SL 35x58fg, 8x12 3s, 19x28ft with 6 scoring double figures

   New Paltz 90, Keene St. 86 in OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: reelentless on January 08, 2008, 09:54:50 PM
Any news on the Oneonta v Utica game tonight?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 08, 2008, 10:10:41 PM

   Utica 68, Oneonta 67
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Post by: jdex on January 08, 2008, 11:22:04 PM

Oneonta beaten on UC J. McClendon layup at :04. Utica holds 32-27 edge at half and leads till knotted with 5' left in reg. OSt gets reversal and has slim lead most of final minutes. Oneonta's R. Fisk 31 pts(10x12fg, 5x7 3s), 10 rebs in 38'; E. Arrington 10 pts(4x7fg). UC's McClendon 14 pts(7x8fg); D. Herring 16 pts(6x14fg), 7 assts, 4pf in 29'; P. Goodman 11 pts. OSt 23x52fg, 6x12 3s, 15x22ft, 38-33reb. UC 27x61fg, 7x15 3s. UC 7-4, OSt 5-5

   New Paltz rallies past Keene, NH, which has 47-36 halftime control and extends to 62-47. NP goes on 14-0 run keyed by K. Nelson. Keene hoop at :01 sends action to OT where M. Hauser prevails. Nelson 26 pts(10x14fg), 15 rebs; Hauser 17 pts, 6 assts; L. Bertram 14 pts, 6 reb
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Post by: jdex on January 09, 2008, 10:39:47 PM

    Geneseo 67, Robts Wesleyan 66, ot
    Brockport 88, St. John Fisher 87
    Castleton St. 94, SUNYIT 83
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Post by: jdex on January 09, 2008, 11:22:37 PM

   Geneseo survives on J. Howe bucket at :01 left in Chase OT after missing two free throws at :03 left in reg. RW led throughout first half till closing moments when Gens seized 30-29 edge. RW atop in second half by 11 at 12:54. Knights finally took lead at 3:43 on B. Simpson pts and extended margin to seven. Game knotted at :10. Howe 22 pts(11x20fg, 0x7ft), 8 rebs in 40'; S. Morton 14 pts(4x19fg), 9 assts; Simpson 12 pts; K. Stevens 11 pts(4x6fg) in 15'. Gens 26x60fg, 12x27ft, 3x10 3s. RW 21x52fg, 17x25ft, 7x27 3s. Knights 9-0, RW 4-10

    Brockport in Chase victory. Sherod Harris two free throws clinch in closing seconds. SJF's M. Newman lands trey at :03. Harris 23 pts(6x11fg, 10x10ft) in 39'; M. Wilkes 11 pts; B. Williams 17 pts(6x11fg), 10 rebs. Port 27x58fg, 30x44ft. Fisher's C. Baltz 22 pts(7x15fg), 6 rebs; Newman 18 pts; W. Cornett 10 pts

    SUNYIT falls handily. In 54-34 straits at intermission and 81-45 later. A. Edwards 23 pts(10x17fg); D. Golembiowski 18 pts(7x12fg); D. Moore 15 pts, 9 rebs; L-K Miller 10 pts; M. Haynesworth 10 pts. Castleton 7-4, IT 3-5
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bombersquadron on January 10, 2008, 02:14:01 AM
I was at the Brockport V. Fisher game last year in the sweet sixteen and returned to the chase tonight to see the rematch. Fisher  Brockport played very poorly most of the first half, lacked discipline as a team and couldn't stop Fisher on D. Played a lot of Zone too which surprised me. Turning point was about the 15 minute mark. Brockport pressed in the second half a lot more and at the 15 minute mark scored 7 points in about 30 seconds with Fisher's PG Newman on the bench and the press on. That closed the lead down from 10 to 3 with an AND1 basket by Johnson. Fast forward to the end of the game. Fisher has the ball with 18 seconds no timeouts and has to inbounds from the corner. Newman running out of time throws the ball of the back of PArrish and out of bounds. Attempts to do it again but turns it over Sherrod Harris goes to the line and makes it 86-81. Fisher hits a 3 then fouls Sherrod Harris. He sank both from the FT line making it 88-84. Newman comes down and hits the three, uncontested as Harris just lets him fire away from the top of the key. Fisher is down one two seconds left, the pressure is on and Brandon Williams just throws the ball in its tipped up ends up in the hands of McKeever who pump fakes and shoots a three which almost banks in but was a little long.  Kornaker chased the refs off the court looking for the foul. Controversial play and a tough situation to call a foul in that spot in my opinion. I see the coaching staff's arguement though. Good comeback by Brockport, i knew at halftime the game wasn't over and Fisher was going to have to battle to win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 10, 2008, 08:33:03 PM

Cortland 64, Utica 47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 10, 2008, 08:45:02 PM

Cortland paced by M. Lewis 21 pts; P. Oliver 14 pts, 6 rebs. Red Dragons 8-2, UC 7-5. CSt forges 13-1 bulge, trails 20-19 but takes 31-27 edge at half. Margin balloons to 56-36 behind scrappy defense. Hosts go 24x46fg to UC's 18x49 (5x16 3s). D. Herring 13 pts in setback
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2008, 06:53:02 PM
Big night in the SUNYAC this evening as conference play resumes.  Potsdam needs to win at Buff St. but I think they're going to lose in a close game. Plattsburgh should handle Fredonia by about 15. Likewise Oneonta and Oswego should both be double digit winners over Morrisville and New Paltz respectively.
    Wouldn't be surprised to see Brockport upset No. 1 ranked Rochester tonight in the Chase tournament . UR has already beat up 3 SUNYAC teams. It'll be interesting to see how they fare against one of the better teams in the Conference. Geneseo will have  their hands full with Nazareth tonight and I think their unbeaten streak will come to an end. (I hope I'm wrong, on this one but Naz handled a pretty good Oswego team early in the season)
  As always I will await the j-dex wrap ups between 10 and 11 tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2008, 08:27:06 PM
Nazareth 70 Geneseo 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2008, 09:36:15 PM

  Geneseo in first loss. Naz down 37-30 at half and 44-32. Grabs lead 66-64 at 1:53. Gen's J. Kling ties before Flyers prevail late. S. Morton 24 pts, 7 rebs; Kling 15 pts, 7 rebs; B. Simpson 10 pts, 9 rebs. As noted on another board, Knights have been minus T. Kitson
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2008, 10:14:36 PM

  Buffalo St. at home takes Potsdam 82-74. Bengals 33-31 at half, Damers have early edge in second half but BS finishes well over final 12'. J. Gray 23 pts(9x13fg), 3 assts, 3 stls; J. Tyndal 16 pts(6x9fg), 9 assts; D. Mozelle 13 pts(5x11fg); S. LaMar 10 pts(3x5fg). BS 33x56fg, 19 assts. Pdam 28x78fg, 3x19 3s. D. Brown 17 pts(5x16fg); A. Dike 14 pts; S. Clement 13 pts; D. Taft 10 pts. Have 15 stls. Minus T. Reinhardt, B. Graney

  Plattsburgh 74, Fredonia 65
  Oswego 80, New Paltz 52
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2008, 10:23:13 PM
Brockport loses a tough one to No.1 Rochester 75-70. Down 1 with a minute to go  they couldn't quite pull off the upset. Good showing for the Port though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2008, 10:32:06 PM

    Plattsburgh needs second half push at Fredonia, whose Devils flourish at close of opening period provides 32-29 advantage. Burgh takes upper hand with 9:35 left, hikes gap to 15. Cards 25x38fg(11x22 1st half), 20x29ft, outboarded 17-27 ..........17-27. A. Williams 22 pts(7x12fg, 2x5 3s), 5pf in 35'; A. Miller 17 pts(6x7fg); T. Gorham 5 pts(1x3fg), 4 rebs in 36'. Freds get 26 pts(9x17fg, 4x7 3s), 3 stls from B. Cooper. K. Saunders 16 pts(6x7fg, 2x2 3s), 5 assts. Hosts 24x50fg, 7x15 3s, 10x13ft.
   
    Oswego with ease at home. N. Perioli 19 pts; K. Reuter 15 pts; T. Downing 14 pts; M. Jabbi 7 rebs, 6 blks. NP L. Bertram 16 pts, 8 rebs; K. Nelson 10 pts, 11 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2008, 10:47:37 PM

      Oneonta delivers hearbreaking 69-68 news at Morrisville. OSt's M. Grimes connects on winning bucket at 0:00. Grimes ft at :21 gave guests only lead of second half. Mville reversal at :12. Then Grimes dagger. Stangs by 36-29 at break. Dragons R. Fisk 19 pts(7x12fg, 5x10 3s), 6 rebs, 4pf in 28'; E. Arrington 15 pts(4x9fg, 7x7ft); R. Fitzgerald 12 pts(3x3fg). OSt 22x53fg, 19x26ft. Mville's D. Spencer 22 pts(8x13fg, 1x5 3s), 6 assts, 8 rebs, 4 stls, 7 trnvrs; A. Olaiokan 14 pts(5x10fg); T. Armstead 12 pts(6x11fg), 5 assts, 3 stls

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2008, 11:01:21 PM

    Brockport and UR tied at 32 at half on M. Wilkes '3'. Eagles open up 49-44 lead with 12:34 left before Jackets 6-0 run. UR up late 70-65. Late Bport run appears to get 73-73 tie on Sherod Harris trey. Hoop called off when ref signalled injury timeout for Jackets. Harris 18 pts; B. Williams 12 pts, 7 rebs; A. Poles 14 pts(3x6 3s); M. Wilkes 5 stls. Top ranked UR 11-0
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2008, 11:20:57 PM
jdex
   Port fans must have went wild when Harris' trey was called off. Shades of the infamous Baltimore Ravens time out against  the Patriots.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 11, 2008, 11:48:50 PM
Probably but the whistle was well ahead of the shot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2008, 09:09:58 AM

  Pat would certainly know  .......following was lead to Bport website info:

  Men's Basketball Falls to Rochester in Chase Tourney
Brockport will play Geneseo for third place Saturday

A late 3-point basket by senior Sherod Harris (Rochester, NY/Gates-Chili) that would have tied the game with under a minute to play was disallowed as a University of Rochester player was on the floor injured and the Yellowjackets, ranked No. 1 in the country in the latest D3Hoops.com poll, used the momentum changing moment to carry them to a 75-70 victory in a semifinal game of the JP Morgan/Chase Scholarship Basketball Tournament Friday evening at the Palestra on the campus of the University of Rochester.

The key play in the closing seconds of the game came as Rochester's Robert Dominiak and Brockport's Cantrel Parrish (Buffalo, NY/Grover Cleveland) crashed to the floor battling for control of a rebound. Parrish won the battle and flipped a pass to Harris who sank a 3-point shot that would have tied the score at 73-73 but the whistle had blown to stop play with Dominiak on the floor with an injury to his head.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2008, 09:23:07 AM

  Suggest y'all check out UR's press release .......bit less partisan? Or at least no mention of controversy ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: e8bballfan on January 12, 2008, 12:03:01 PM
I was there and i will tell you that it was a TERRIBLE call. You can't blow the whistle and stop a play while a guy has a wide open 3. And it's not like the whistle was blown, and he shot it 2 seconds after the fact, it basically happened simultaneously. HOrrible call! But maybe if Bport made their lay-ups all game they wouldn't of had to worry about that, but definitely a game changing (and saving) call for UR.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 12, 2008, 12:25:38 PM
aaaaaah    Don't you just love Division III basketball in Rochester New York.

Home team ranked #1 in the country. Home team up by three.  Home team's player goes to the ground while upstart "SUNY" school has the ball and an open shot by a pre-season All-American.     Tweeeeet  no basket.... 

I say this just in JEST, because if this was in Brockport and a Brockport player was on the ground, the whistle would have been blown also.  At Fisher and a Fisher player on the floor, most likely the same deal.  Whichever team DIDN'T get the basket counted would have been upset.  It just so happened this
occurred at the Palestra, in a tight game between two VERY GOOD teams.   What this WILL DO, is make for interesting LATE SEASON conversation IF U of R can remain undefeated. 

It's a judgement call (by the official) as to IF and WHEN to blow the whistle.  IF the players were on the floor around the basket and IN the way of MORE HARM, the whistle was probably a good thing.  If the whistle came when the pile up was behind the play and no player was in dire need of protection then MAYBE it was a bad whistle.   

WHAT IF, the same thing would have happened at St John Fisher during the NCAA game last March as Anthony Williams of Plattsburgh hit the GAME WINNING 3 with 3 seconds left in the game to beat the U of R?  Now, THAT would have been a conspiracy :) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 12, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
I was there as well and agree it was a terrible call.  No question it should have been a flagrant foul on Brockport.   ;D

Regardless of who you were rooting for the whistle clearly blew before the shot and is was long enough before that players stopped playing.  There were a basketfull of ridiculous calls in this game.  One official in particular seemed to be playing to the camera. 

Despite all of the above, it was a GREAT game to watch. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2008, 01:56:46 PM

  Am confused (not unusual) by last post. A terrible call? Flagrant? That in reference to UR player going to the floor via possible rough play?

  On another point, if play is ahead of a possible injury isn't action allowed to continue until that sequence comes to a halt via basket, set offense or some other stoppage of play? Seems like we've seen that often. Have also seen officials use discretionary action .....

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 12, 2008, 04:06:48 PM
I used "terrible" sort of tongue in check.  And flagrant was an overstatement, but Dominiak was riden  headfirst to the floor and a whistle was the right call.  My impression was that that Harris shot the ball after hearing the whistle and had no intention of shooting before hearing it.  Though he has pretty much unlimited range...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2008, 05:14:08 PM

  Brockport 83, Geneseo 59
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2008, 06:15:33 PM

  Cortland conquers SUNYIT 78-73 on the road, bounding to 38-31 halftime lead. Dragons 29x71fg, 15x19ft, 46-38reb in ninth win in 11 starts. M. Lewis 22 pts(7x11fg, 8x10ft), 9 rebs, 4pf in 27'; W. Coston 19 pts(9x14fg); C. Niehoff 12 pts; R. Evans 10 pts in 18'. IT 29x64fg. A. Edwards 16 pts(6x8fg, 3x3 3s), 7 assts; D. Golembiowski 14 pts(4x12fg), 13 rebs; L-K Miller 13 pts(6x10fg); D. Hahn 12 pts(6x10fg); M. Haynesworth 12 pts

   Plattsburgh 79, Buffalo St. 70

    Brockport's Sherod Harris scores Eagles first 13 pts, had 19 at half and finishes with 22. Bport 11-0 liftoff and 42-25 control at intermission. Geneseo within 56-44 at 10'. B. Williams 17 pts, 9 rebs; C. Parrish 16 pts, 9 rebs; A. Poles 10 pts. Gens J. Howe 14 pts; S. Morton 14 pts(8x9ft); K. Stevens 13 pts, 5 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2008, 06:25:27 PM

  Fredonia holds off Potsdam 81-78. Devils overcome 36-33 halftime deficit and lead 74-64 at :52. Bears D. Brown has potential tying trey fail at buzzer. Brown nets 10 of his 23 pts(6x10fg) in last minute. B. Cooper has 15 pts(3x11fg, 7x10ft) in victory; R. Buckmon 14 pts; K. Gordon 12 pts, 6 rebs, 5 assts, 3 stls; J. Bryant 10 pts. For Pdam B.Siskavich 15 pts(7x11fg); A. Dike 13 pts

  New Paltz 75, Morrisville 64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2008, 08:22:30 PM

  Plattsburgh's A. Williams' 25 pts pushes Card to No. 2 on all-time school pt. chart --1,292 (L. Parker No. 1 at 1,560 from '75-78). Williams with 1,373 including season at Morgan St. Pburgh heads Buff St. 39-29 at half and leads by as much as 67-51. A. Miller 14 pts; T. Gorham 12 pts, 10 rebs; E. Daniyan 10 pts, 8 rebs

  Oswego big second half offsets hot Oneonta opening chukker. Dragons on heels of 19x28fg take 38-31 lead at halfway stage. Lakers on 15x21fg finishing tear. Oswego overall 27x49fg, 18x20ft though outrebounded by 40-15! Oneonta 33x70fg in all. Oswego backcourt lights it up: N. Perioli 23 pts(6x9fg, 3x5 3s, 8x8ft), 5 rebs, 6 assts in 40'; T. Downing 23 pts(7x12fg, 2x5 3s, 7x8ft), 7 assts. K. Reuter 13 pts(5x10fg). Dragon E. Arrington 17 pts(8x13fg); M. Latino 14 pts(7x12fg), 11 rebs in 25'; R. Fisk 12 pts(4x7fg, 3x5 3s), 4pf in 14'

  New Paltz fires at 27x44fg clip including 15x27 opening half enroute to 36-29 margin at the break. K. Nelson 19 pts(9x10fg), 7 rebs, 5 stls, 3 assts; M. Hauser 18 pts(3x6fg, 10x12ft); L. Bertram 17 pts(8x12fg). Morrisville's D. Spencer 14 pts(5x12fg, 2x6 3s); T. Armstead 12 pts(5x8fg), 8 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls; K. Buell 10 pts in 20'

  Geneseo at Brockport in Tuesday renewal
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 12, 2008, 08:52:59 PM
"....Plattsburgh's A. Williams' 25 pts pushes Card to No. 2 on all-time school pt. chart --1,292 (L. Parker No. 1 at 1,560 from '75-78). Williams with 1,373 including season at Morgan St....."

And Larry Parker missed the last 7 games of his Senior Season with a broken eye socket thanks to some unknown "Thug" at Cortland who cold-cocked Larry with a flagrant elbow early in the 2nd half sending him to the hospital.  He missed three or four conference games AND STILL was named 1st team and MVP of the league that year.  To tell you what kind of person Larry was, he apologised to his teammates for missing the games. I also believed Larry played the 74-75 season also. He as a sophomore in 75-76 season when we went to the Final Four.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 12, 2008, 09:12:42 PM
On Thursday of this week the Plattsburgh State basketball team was my guest for a "get off the bus and shoot around" at my high school alma mater.  Turns out the JV basketball coach at Palmyra Macedon HS (Dan Harris) played for Tom Curle at Alfred State when Tom was coaching there in the late 1980s.
I thought I told Dan the Plattsburgh coach's name, but when I saw both of their reactions upon Tom's entry to the gym, it was a shock to all three of us.

Lots of laughing and joking going on.  Lots of interesting gazes from the JV and Varsity ball players wondering who all the 6' 7" and taller guys were.  Fed them some pizza and they left for Fredonia later that night.   This marks the fourth visit for a Plattsburgh State mens basketball team to my home town.
Once in the mid 1960's my former health teacher (also a Plattsburgh grad) invited the team to her home while they were in Rochester for games.  She had just become a teacher at my high school and knew most of the team from her college days. The visits during the 1976-77 season and 1978-79 seasons was my idea to get some HOME COOKING and invite a "few" friends over to meet the folks.  This year was a simple thank you gift to my "new" fellow teammates for their success last season.  It was good to talk to Anthony W., Antwan, Kylan, Travis and the other returnees.  The new guys seem to be perfect fits with the program.  All the teams have been the defending SUNYAC champions.  So far the team won-lost record after these "extra" stops on the West-bound road trips have been 5-1.  We only lost the first game  during the 1976-77 trip. My mother fed the traveling squads of 25 players, coaches, managers and trainers during the first two visits and this year it was my turn to be the host.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2008, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: Jacketfan2011 on January 12, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
Regardless of who you were rooting for the whistle clearly blew before the shot and is was long enough before that players stopped playing. 

Absolutely. When it's clear on a little streaming video screen then it should be abundantly easy to tell in person.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 13, 2008, 09:00:30 PM
I was in attendance at the Chase game at U or R and that call taking away the 3 pointer from Sherrod Harris was one of the worst calls I have seen in my40 years of attending b-ball games. The people sitting around me had absolutely no idea why the whistle was blown. Everyone had a different idea of what took place. The kid that was supposedly injured in the play sprinted off the court and a few seconds later hit the 3 pointer that broke Brockport's back. The last five minutes of that game was "lets watch the officials' officiate"!!! Very sad because it was an excellent hard played game by both squads. Many times when a D-1 official works a D-3 game of this magnitude this kind of thing happens. Keep them at D-1 if they are that good. They are not the show--- the kids are.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2008, 09:24:47 PM

   Cortland grabs 10th win with huge second half comeback to defeat Lebanon Valley 62-58 in PA. CSt leads most of first half and slim 30-29 halftime margin. Host Dutchmen fly to 41-30 lead five minutes into final period. Dragons stay in touch and finally seize 53-52 lead on M. Lewis hoop at 5'. Stay in front by as much as five points, final time at 1:08 (61-56) on P. Oliver bucket. M. Schaller gets final point at fl line at :02. Soph Lewis 22 pts(9x11fg), 7reb; J. Miolan 16 pts(6x17fg, 3x8 3s); soph Oliver 12 pts(6x8fg), 8 reb. CSt 25x57fg, 6x17 3s. Now 10-2. LV 6-9
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2008, 09:31:22 PM

  Potsdam slips 83-75 to Ithaca to reverse outcome from earlier n-c duel. IC in front 41-34 at half and by 18 at 13:38 left. Pdam within six at 2:46 on D. Brown trey; never inside of five thereafter and difference of 10 near end. Brown 19 pts(6x15fg, 4x8 3s) in 29'; A. Dike 13 pts; B. Graney 12 pts; T. Reinhardt 10 pts. S. Burton 29 pts(9x18fg, 3x8 3s), 4 assts for IC; J. Bostic 24 pts(14x18ft), 13 rebs. Bombers 32x43ft. IC 8-6, Pdam 5-7

  Fredonia has its way with Alfred 75-60. Devils 5-7, Alfs 1-13. Twas 33-23 at break but Saxes within 43-40 at 12:25, then 8-0 Freds run. Victors unload at 27x50fg pace and hold 39-26 reb edge. B. Cooper 20 pts, 3 stls; W. Davis 11 pts, 4 assts; A. Smith 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2008, 09:38:44 PM

   Brockport and Geneseo tied at 40 at half before Bport scores first eight of second period and is maintaining that margin with just under 4' left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2008, 10:23:07 PM

Brockport over Geneseo 84-79. Gens late whittle 12 pt. deficit to 77-71 at 1:43, then 83-79 on B. Simpson trey at :09. Bport 27x59fg, 20x24ft. D. Maldonado 16 pts(3x6fg, 2x5 3s, 8x8ft) in 18'; Sherod Harris 15 pts(5x10fg), 3x6 3s), 5 assts, 3 stls; B. Williams 13 pts(5x8fg), 4 assts, 4 stls; M. Wilkes 10 pts(4x9fg), 4 assts. J. Howe paces Knights with 24 pts(8x13fg, 8x14ft), 9 rebs; S. Morton 17 pts; S. Simpson 14 pts(6x7fg); J. Kling 17 pts(5x8fg, 2x3 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 16, 2008, 12:22:19 PM
The B-Port Golden Eagles are back!! Three nice efforts in a row and the returners for the second semester are starting to blend and understand roles. Watch out!!!This is big weekend with Oswego on Friday and newcomer Morrisville on Saturday PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 16, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
Scooterman- I agree the effort lately is back, just hope that Bport hasn't painted themselves into a corner with all the early losses.  An at large bid will be as difficult now as the rest of the schedule with a home and away versus Oswego and away games at Plattsburgh, Geneseo,and Cortland.  Port may have to win the tournament to get in unless they play near perfect from here on in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2008, 10:04:28 PM
The Brockport-Plattsburgh game on Jan. 26th in Pburgh could very well determine who will host the Conference semis and finals. I agree that those early season losses could come back to haunt the Eagles if they don't win the conference tournament. I believe one of these teams will end up with a 14-2 conference record and the other one will be 13-3. Which one will probably be determined on the 26th, as it's their only meeting this year. Over the past 3 years these teams have met 7 times with the Cardinals enjoying a 4-3 advantage but home court has meant very little. 3 of the Cards wins have come in Bport, while the Golden Eagles have won 2 straight in Pburgh. 3 of the last 4 have been 2 pt decisions. Expect next week will be more of the same. I'm glad I'll be able to attend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 16, 2008, 11:55:04 PM
Don't look past this week with Plattsburgh playing Cortland on the short layoff.  Brockport has to beat Oswego which has shown fairly well so far this season.  Geneseo will be playing Oswego this week also and then leads Brockport into Plattsburgh next week.

No matter what happens it should be an interesting two months.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 17, 2008, 07:53:18 AM
I agree with what is being said- Hopefully the Eagles haven't painted themselves into a corner as every win is important. I think the SUNYAC's is a difficult conference this year. Plattsburgh, Cortland, Geneseo, Oswego are all good teams and not easy to win at their courts. The rest of the conference is competitive,too. B-port needs to take care of business EVERY NIGHT. The Plattsburgh squad in my mind is Number 1 right now. Like I said before this weekend is HUGE for the Golden Eagles--Dont look past those pesky Lakers. Perrioli will kill you if not guarded.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 17, 2008, 02:11:28 PM
B-port has got to put a streak together. Lightnin' Rod, B-Dubs, and the Eagle-Machine need to string some wins together!!! I think if they continue to win and make the SUNYAC finals but lose to Plattsburgh in the finals-The NCAA's are within reason. Their SOS should be pretty high for consideration.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2008, 09:47:11 PM

  Brockport all over visiting Oswego 90-76. Bport takes 45-29 halftime lead; hits 35x81fg overall to OSt's 27x60. Port with 52-35 board advantage. B. Williams 25 pts(11x21fg); C. Parrish 18 pts(6x9fg); Sherod Harris 13 pts. Oswego gets 18 pts from T. Downing. M. Jabbi 12 pts; D. White 10 pts; N. Perioli 6 pts(2x9fg) in 28'

   Cortland tops host Potsdam 73-65. W. Coston gets 19 pts, 15 by intermission. C. Niehoff 17 pts; fr R. Evans 15 pts. Pdam's T. Reinhardt 19 pts(15 at half); D. Brown 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 18, 2008, 10:10:43 PM
Go Cards,   81 - 69 over SUNYIT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2008, 10:12:25 PM
Plattsburgh St. 81  SUNYIT 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2008, 10:18:11 PM

   Fredonia on the road spills New Paltz 61-50. Leads 30-24 at half. B. Cooper 19 pts(5x13fg, 3x7 3s); K. Gordon 15 pts(3x9fg), 6 rebs. Freds 24x55fg, NP 20x43fg. Hawks' K. Nelson 165 pts(6x8fg); L. Bertram 14 pts(6x10fg); M. Hauser 10 pts.

    Geneseo snuffs Morrisville 85-58 after holding 44-27 halftime bulge. B. Simpson 10 pts(7x8fg); J. Howe 14 pts(7x10fg); K. Stevens 11 pts(5x5fg). In Gennyland hosts go 31x66fg. Stangs D. Spencer 10 pts; K. Buell 10 pts. Mville 10x54fg, 27 trnvrs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2008, 10:31:11 PM

  Plattsburgh's T. Gorham with 22 reb(7-15) vs. guest ITs. Adds 10 pts. Burgh ahead 44-37 at half and by double digits most of second half. IT twice within nine, once with about 8' left. A. Williams 20 pts(5x17fg, 1x11 3s, 9x13ft), 10 assts in 40'; A. Miller 18 pts(8x16fg, 1x7 3s); K. Hunt 10 pts in 22'. Cards 29x74fg, 9x39 3s. IT 27x62fg. D. Golembiowski 13 pts(5x8fg, 3x6 3s); M. Haynesworth 13 pts(4x9fg); D. Moore 12 pts; L-K Miller 11 pts, 7 rebs

   Oneonta over Buffalo St. 76-65. OSt in 36-32 halftime lead. R. Fisk 29 pts(8x15fg, 5x9 3s), 6 reb in 30'; M. Grimes 11 pts(5x7fg); R. Morin 10 pts(4x5fg). Dragons 25x61fg, 21x34ft. BS 24x57fg. D. Mozelle 16 pts(5x8fg), 13 rebs; J. Gray 15 pts(6x16fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2008, 10:49:37 PM

   Bit more on ......

    Cortland up on Potsdam midway 37-29. Bears close to 56-55. CSt 28x53fg, 8x20 3s. Without D. Fish at the point, but M. Schaller, K. Bueno (13'), Evans help fill void. Coston 9x13fg, Niehoff 5x8 in 26', Evans 6x11 in 19'. Pdam 26x53fg, 7x18 3s.

    Bport has 17 players in action. B. Williams shows way in 23'. Parrish big numbers in 19'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 19, 2008, 12:53:58 AM
A very rough night. Drove to Potsdam (130 miles) rather than Oswego (25 miles) just to keep the family peace. My wife is a loyal Bears fan although I can't quite figure out why just lately - or for the last 2 years. But I did want to see Mike Lewis, a local kid now at Cortland play - so I gave up on what was likely to be the better game 'port v. Lakers.

No surprises. Potsdam again failed to play in the first half trailing by 11. Worked hard to cut the lead to 1 with 5 min. remaining. Span called a TO. Dragons answer with a 9-1 run. Game over. Bears consistently fail to protect the ball, play inconsistent defense...you get the picture. Cortland currently undefeated in league play but remain a 2nd tier team behind Brockport and Plattsburg.

Did enjoy seeing Mike Lewis. Unselfish, rebounder, always hustles, able to play physical game. He'll just get better.

Can't  remember seeing a worst crew in the last 5 years. The weakest whistle in 38, you know who, was the best of this 3 man fiasco.  Hey, but it's D3 and we know the vast majority of our beloved officials have reached their terminal velocity. Still, it can be very painful to watch.

Will be interesting to see how the Dragons fare at Plattsburg tomorrow. I expect the Cards to win big even though Cortland was able to cruise for most of the game tonight.  Big game Saturday for the Knghts and Lakers. Both need this one. And  dinner at the Conesus Inn makes for a great day.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 19, 2008, 01:36:47 AM
Zola, at least you didn't waste your time driving the 25 miles to Oswego only to discover the game was actually at Brockport.  That woulda sucked.  Still, though, 130 miles to Potsdam in the dead of January.  That's some D3 dedication right there...oughta be some kind of medal for that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2008, 10:38:14 AM

  East: Pburgh 5-0 (11-2), Corts 4-0 (11-2), Otas 2-3 (7-6), NP 1-4 (5-8), IT 0-4 (3-7)

  West: Bport 4-0 (8-5), Gens 3-1 (10-3), Ogos 3-2 (8-4), Freds 3-2 (6-7), BS 2-3 (4-7), Mville 0-5 (3-7)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 19, 2008, 11:38:22 AM
Jdex - font of all knowledge in SUNYAC. How could you?

Realize my beloved Bears are struggling, but to leave them out entirely?

Bears are 1-4 SUNYAC 5-8 overall, tied with NP for last playoff spot.

P.S.  Coston is very impressive for Dragons, gives them an athletic presence haven't seen in those quarters for some time. Niehoff and Evans made huge contributions off the bench. 

Dragons will be in the mix with Plattsburgh, Brockport, Geneseo.  Since 1 of their two losses is to #1 ranked Rochester, they will be in the mix for an at large bid if they can finish the SUNYAC with 1 or two losses.

Dragons had to play hard with a short rotation (8 players) last night, will be interesting to see how they contend with a very athletic Plattsburgh team and short turn-around.





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: airball55 on January 19, 2008, 11:54:40 AM
1st time sunyac poster here.  In regards to Zola's response about Potsdam, I believe after seeing these teams Cortland is just better.  Potsdam has continued to overachieve since Coach Dobbs has taken over at P-dam, ain't easy getting good players to make the trek north, especially with the amount of sunyac teams that can get pretty much get anyone into school with a pulse.  BTW, I do like Cortland, big and strong, could be dangerous to both B-port (whom lost to St. Law., and Potsdam beat St. Lawrence) or Plattsburgh.  Just some thoughts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2008, 12:42:10 PM

   To make amends to `thebear' .......

    Pdamers as recently voiced on this site proud of M. Deane. Hope they caught this morning's piece on ESPN Gameday. Recent winner of No. 400, Deane was featured with his seatbelt. Bit was launched with storyline the Wagner coach was demonstrative, and this year's new coaching box rule presented problems. To stay under control Dean sits strapped in his chair. Technicals limited to one .......till assessed another this week. Belted chair goes on the road as well. Nice piece. No direct officiating comment, though it was mentioned that fraternity is appreciative.

   Of course we followed his storied playing days as a Bear, and heard even more from his roommate -- a Cortlander.

    Span molding this team into nice outfit. Tis very,very young. Lewis and Oliver both sophs. Capable size is something the coach hasn't had in a while. Coston has made tremendous strides from a year ago. Evans another frosh continuing to mature. Other than Rochester, Corts haven't  played particularly difficult slate and there's  tendency to go into scoring lulls. Things get tougher today ....
   And what's up with Potsdam? Seems like this fall took root the second half of last season.

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 19, 2008, 01:51:19 PM
Another season is fading.  Its tough being a Potsdam fan/Alumni.  Since the glory days the highlights have been few.  After the 04-05 season I thought WOW we are back.  Now once again we are playing with the bottom of SUNYAC.  We can't win big games at Home.  Teams once feared making the long trek to  Maxcy Hall.  Now its another W for someone other then Potsdam. Will the glory days ever return?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 19, 2008, 02:41:02 PM
Yeah - although SI publicity may be a bad thing.  M. Deane got double-T'd last game & ejected, wonder if the NYC refs were making a point.  Mike also a former roomy of yours truly in the mid-70's.  Intense to say the least, probably the best X & O's guy you will ever meet, and demands his players go to class and graduate. 

Bears have been snake bit, key injuries here, slumps there.  Have been competitive in most contests, but other than opener vs. Ithaca and track meet at SLU, have been unable to finish off top opponents.  Losses to Clarkson, Buff State, Fredonia, Ithaca all had one or more starters DNP, #4 & 5 post players both in civvies for Cortland game.

Agree with Bearnation, used to be the way to Potsdam was Thruway to Syracuse turn North & take a loss.  J. Welsh Gym not nearly as intimidating as the person it was named for.

Also agree with airball55, SUNYAC admissions policy decided by each individual school.  Conference is heavily populated with top players not admitted to Potsdam.  Most players who come here, like it when they get here, stay, and graduate, but it takes a great salesman.

Off to Maxcy to watch Bears vs. SUNYIT with potential SUNYAC ROY Dave Golembiowski.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2008, 06:08:03 PM

    Brockport rocks Morrisville 92-65. Makes 14x26 3s in 34x65fg diisplay. Leads 49-31 at break. Sherod Harris 18 pts(6x9fg, 4x7 3s), 6 assts in 26'; M. Wilkes 16 pts(6x8fg, 4x6 3s) in19'; B. Williams 12 pts(6x15fg) in 25'; Shawn Harris 7 assts, 5 stls; C. Parrish 0 pts(9x3fg) in 10'. Mville's A. Olasokian 23 pts(7x14fg, 4x6 3s); D. Spencer 16 pts(5x10fg), 5 assts

    Oswego sinks Geneseo 77-74. Lakers in 42-28 control at half. Hit 31x61fg, 11x26 3s. K. Reuter 30 pts(10x18fg, 7x12 3s); N. Perioli 16 pts(7x14fg), 7 assts; M. Jabbi 11 pts(5x9fg); D. White 7 rebs. Gens 30x53fg. J. Howe 24 pts(11x16fg), 8 rebs; S. Morton 22 pts (8x16fg), 14 rebs; J. Kling 14 pts(5x8fg); B. Simpson 10 pts (5x8fg); J. Kling 14 pts(5x8fg)

    Oneonta takes Fredonia 51-39 after trailing 24-14 at half. OSt first lead at 29-28 at 14:57; for keeps at 34-32 at 10:10. R. Fisk 14 pts(4x11fg, 3x8 3s). Dragons 17x46fg, 13x18ft. Freds 2x3ft, 15x51fg. B. Cooper 12 pts; E. Arrington 6 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2008, 06:11:36 PM
Plattsburgh State 74 Cortland State 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 19, 2008, 06:13:21 PM
The other night I was flipping the channels and came across Providence vs UCONN.  Tim Welsh and his squad blew away UCONN on the road.  Potsdam was a basketball hot bed.  Look at the talent and tradition which came out of the little College at the end of the World.  I do believe it will once again happen.  Kudos to both Mike Deane and Tim Welsh. They learned from the best.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2008, 06:20:22 PM

  Potsdam 83, SUNYIT 69
  New Paltz 75, Buffalo St. 74 OT after NP in 41-27 lead at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2008, 06:39:44 PM
Plattsburgh-Cortland game was a  tight game throughout. Cards grabbed an early 5 point lead but Red Dragons came right back and held the lead for most of the 1st half gaining a 35-31 advantage at the break. Cards came out and closed to within 1 but Cortland went back up by 6. Game was eventually tied by the Cards with about 5 mins. to play and it was back and forth until Khylan Hunt hit a big 3 to put the Cards up 68-65 with 1:28 to play. When Cortland turned it over on their next possession they immediately fouled Travis Gorham who made both foul shots to extend the lead to 5. Anthony Williams hit 4 foul shots down the stretch to preserve the victory.
Khylan Hunt led the Cards with 17 pts along with 9 rebounds. Williams had 15 pts T. Gorham 9pts 11boards and 7assists. Ricky Rider 11pts. Big game off the bench for Freshman Errol Daniyan with 13 pts and Frosh Chris Ruiz with 9 pts.
Red Dragons were led by Mike Lewis with 25 pts and 8 boards Will Coston had 19pts with 5 3's and Paul Oliver had 10 pts.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 19, 2008, 06:50:08 PM
Lest Ye forget, also Arizona HC Kevin O'Neill (J Welsh relative from Chateaugay), and NBA'r Rick Carlisle (Lisbon, NY) also hail from these parts, both learned many lessons from the man over the years.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 19, 2008, 06:58:54 PM
Back from Potsdam - SUNYIT game. 

Bears stumbled out of the gate and were down 0-12 after about 5 minutes. Sound defense & solid rebounding allowed them to close within 1 at Half.  Damon Brown went off for season high 27 for the Bears as the two teams punched & counter-punched through 1st 10 of second half, before Potsdam's defensive pressure and transition steadily built to final score.

Repeating a pattern, Potsdam played without regular SG Anthony Williams Jr, on bench in civvies. 

Long time member of the Potsdam program points out that Damon Brown may be as offensively talented as anyone to wear the maroon & gray, including a long list of D-III AA's & a couple of D-III POY's.

SUNYIT frosh D. Hahn and D. Golembiowski are nice looking players, who bode well for Wildcats as the drop down to NEAC competition after this season.  Both are big, skilled, and athletic.

Bears host Brockport and Geneseo next weekend.  Since both teams are focused on Plattsburgh, possibility Potsdam could steal a couple of wins and even their SUNYAC record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2008, 07:29:53 PM

  New Paltz victorious on K. Nelson deuce at :10, only lead of OT. Buff St. recovers from 14 pt. halftime hole to get 66-all reg. tie. NP 28x63fg, 8x16 3s, 11x14ft. L. Bertram 21 pts(8x14fg), 8 rebs; M. Hauser 16 pts(5x9fg, 5x8 3s), 5 assts; Nelson 15 pts(6x13fg), 6 rebs; J. Segrue 12 pts(4x7fg) and big trey in extra frame. BS 33x75fg, 4x11 3s, 4x10ft, 15 stls. D. Mozelle 22 pts(10x18fg), 9 rebs; J. Gray 17 pts(8x14fg), 5 assts, 7 stls; A. Samedi 10 pts(5x9fg), 7 rebs

  Plattsburgh 26x54fg, 7x18 3s, 15x17ft. Hunt 6x11fg; Williams 5x11fg, 3 stls, 3 assts; Daniyan 4x7fg in 6'. Cards in 33-27 board hold. Corts 28x60fg, 8x16 3s, 5x9ft. Lewis 12x17fg in 37'; Coston 6x12fg, 5x6 3s; Olicer 4x8fg, 4 assts

   Potsdam fronts IT 39-38 at half. Pulls into tie at 5:07 left on B. Graney grenade and makes hay thereafter. Bears 26x32ft, 25x66fg. Brown 8x14fg, 9x11ft, 6 stls in 32'; Reinhardt 14 pts(4x6fg), 9 rebs; S. Clement 12 pts(3x5 3s); A. Dike 10 pts, 8 rebs. IT's D. Moore 19 pts(8x13fg); M. Haynesworth 18 pts(4x7 3s) 9 trnvrs; D. Golembiowski 12 pts; A. Edwards 10 pts, 4 stls

 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 19, 2008, 09:20:52 PM
"... Bears host Brockport and Geneseo next weekend.  Since both teams are focused on Plattsburgh, possibility Potsdam could steal a couple of wins and even their SUNYAC record...."

Go Cards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 19, 2008, 10:16:11 PM
Adding to the SUNYAC and North Country coaching connections.

Mike Deane - Potsdam 1974
Jerry Welsh
Tim Welsh
Stan Cohen - "Mr Assistant"
Norm Law - Brockport 1960
Jeff Law - Plattsburgh 1985
Paul Evans (St Lawrence and Pitt)
Dan Theiss  Plattsburgh 1980, Vermont, Siena, Marquette, Lamar, Rhode Island
Tom Curle - Plattsburgh 1982,  as a player and now reigning SUNYAC coach of the Year
Steve Holmes- Plattsburgh 1983, Potsdam Geneseo and now Salisbury State
Sherry Dobbs - Plattsburgh 1993 Potsdam head now
Kevin Moore - Brockport 1983 - Fredonia head coach
Vince Medici - Cortland 1987 - Oneonta head coach

Larry Cowan - Plattsburgh coach 1987- ?   owns a basketball camp
John Kmack - Plattsburgh 1993 - operates Larry's camp with Leo Rautins of Syracuse

Tom Spanbauer - Cortland 1983 - successful stint at his alma mater

Stan VanGundy - Brockport 1981 - Current Orlando Sentinel NBA coach
Jeff Van Gundy - Brockport 1982-83 1st team SUNYAC - NBA Knicks Rockets

and others who I cant recall at the moment


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 21, 2008, 12:29:52 AM
Big road trip next weekend for the B-port Golden Eagles. Lightnin' Rod, B-Dubs & the Eagle Machine better be hitting on all cyclinders at both ends to grab TWO HUGE wins up north. Potsdam did beat St. Lawrence, and the 'Burg'is the TEAM to beat --if they want to host the SUNYAC's. It's never easy to win at those places. You are always playing 5 against 7 up north!Those officials want what few games they can get!!!! The word on the street is" the coaches and officials are related." (haha)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 01:47:26 AM
"...You are always playing 5 against 7 up north!Those officials want what few games they can get!!!! The word on the street is" the coaches and officials are related." (haha)..."

Having participated and being a highly interested spectator in both the North Country and Rochester basketball areas, I don't believe the North Country officials are NOT any more biased than the Rochester Area group.  It's much more easier for a Brockport team to beat a North Country team THERE, than for a SUNYAC North Country team to beat against a Brockport or Geneseo or St John Fisher ,,,,,   down in Rochester.   You Brockport fans even complain about the officiating in Rochester.  (i.e. U of R vs Brockport this past Chase, and Brockport against St John Fisher (pick a game)). 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 01:48:32 AM
"...'Burg'is the TEAM to beat --if they want to host the SUNYAC's..."

That didn't serve Brockport very well last year  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2008, 03:52:32 AM
Plattsburgh State should move up 5 or 6 spots in the upcoming Top 25 poll but the voters haven't given them much respect this year so it wouldn't surprise me if that doesn't happen. They were ranked at #11 the 1st week and proceeded to drop to 13th then 14th despite starting out 6-0. After crossing the country they beat a decent Chapman team and lost the next night to a very good Occidental team 69-64. After a 2 week layoff they returned to action and lost to a Gordon team currently sporting an 11-3 record which dropped them to #25 in the poll. Since that wake up call they've reeled off 5 in a row and sit atop the SUNYAC standings with a 6-0 mark, & ranked #21 in the latest poll. In the past week The following teams all lost. #2 Brandeis, #4Mary Hardin-Baylor(lost twice), #8 Williams, #9Augustana,(their 3rd loss, 1 of which was to 7th place UW-LaCrosse of the Wisconsin IAC), #12 Elmhurst, #15 Stevens, #16 UW-Oshkosh, #17 Guilford(now with 4 losses, 1 of which was to Greensboro, a team Plattsburgh beat 92-59), #18 Wheaton, Illinois(now with 3 losses), #19 Wooster(also 3 losses),#24 Carnegie Mellon(lost twice). The Univ. of Rochester certainly deserves their #1 ranking but the voters should know that the last time they were defeated was in the NCAA's last March 2nd by Plattsburgh 61-60. Both of these teams returned virtually their entire starting line-ups and it's entirely possible they could meet again down the road if they are both fortunate enough to make the Div. III tournament.
It's too bad Brockport had that 3 game losing streak the 1st week of Jan. because I really think they're a much better team than 9-5 and after climbing to #17 in the D3 poll it would have been great for the SUNYAC conference to have 2 ranked teams to help offset the UAA, WIAC and CCIW conferences come NCAA bid time. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 21, 2008, 09:13:08 AM
Not enough love? they started the season out in the top 20, moved up to almost in the top 10, have to not so good losses and are still in the top 25, i think they have gotten as much love as they could get.  I am not undermining them as i would like to see any of the upstate conf have teams in the top 25 just given plattsburgh's wins and losses, i think they are exactly where they deserve to be.  I think they can be a top 10 team and can do some serious damage in the ncaa tourny if they stay disciplined enough, but, two losses to unranked teams dont help.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 21, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
Can't argue with --"didn't serve them well last year," BUT this is a new year!!! Basically the same squads, but I think the Burg has recruited a little better the the Port. The North Country comment will stand though. Those guys got to be related--You got to be at least 10 points better than the home team to win up there. Seen it way too many times!!! Ask any of the coaches not from the area. Anyway hopefully will be an exciting weekend of hoops---Go Port!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 21, 2008, 10:51:09 AM
One last comment---Why do the officials and coaches ride to the game together, in the North Country?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 12:10:50 PM
where do you get this crap from ?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 12:13:02 PM
"...Not enough love? they started the season out in the top 20, moved up to almost in the top 10,..."

They started the year at #13 and dropped every week except last week.   Dropped every week even when they were undefeated.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
"...The Univ. of Rochester certainly deserves their #1 ranking but the voters should know that the last time they were defeated was in the NCAA's last March 2nd by Plattsburgh 61-60..."

And If I recall not very many gave the Cards much chance of even being within 15 points of the U of R, playing a game in Rochester at St John Fisher.   I was going to save that bit of trivia for this March when the seeding come out and the East bracket is played in Rochester on the U of R's home court.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 21, 2008, 12:23:42 PM
And even fewer people gave them much of a chance of sinking a halfcourt shot at the buzzer to win by 1.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 12:24:38 PM
"...I think they can be a top 10 team and can do some serious damage in the ncaa tourny if they stay disciplined enough, but, two losses to unranked teams dont help...."

I believe that Occidental was ranked and was something like 5-2 at the time  (now 13-3).
Gordon is currently 11-3.

It's not like one of Plattsburgh's losses was to St John Fisher  :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 12:27:43 PM
"...And even fewer people gave them much of a chance of sinking a halfcourt shot at the buzzer to win by 1...."

Quite true, but they (Plattsburgh) were that close at the buzzer and Anthony Made the shot.  It wasn't a desperation HEAVE, it was a legitimate NBA 3 point jump shot that SWISHED.    AND they overcame a 15 point deficit to beat the U of R.   15 points down with 9 minutes and change to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 21, 2008, 12:36:11 PM
They did.  And their full court press was very effective in the second half.  And they managed to "overcome"  Brackney shooting 0-10 and Onyiriuka's 6-15 from inside 3 feet.  And unless they moved the NBA three-point line back to a step inside halfcourt when I wasn't looking, it was a heave.  An amazingly accurate one.

I really don't mean to take anything away from the Cards.  It was a teriffic game and I was a somewhat impartial observer at the time.  Hell, I'm a SUNY grad myself.  But I don 't think you should base this year on that particular result.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 21, 2008, 01:39:55 PM
"...I think they can be a top 10 team and can do some serious damage in the ncaa tourny if they stay disciplined enough, but, two losses to unranked teams dont help...."

I believe that Occidental was ranked and was something like 5-2 at the time  (now 13-3).
Gordon is currently 11-3.

It's not like one of Plattsburgh's losses was to St John Fisher  :o"


yeah your right, that was last year in the sweet 16...  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 21, 2008, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 21, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
The North Country comment will stand though. Those guys got to be related--You got to be at least 10 points better than the home team to win up there. Seen it way too many times!!! Ask any of the coaches not from the area.

May be a bit of historical folklore here.  These days. very few men's D-III college refs even live in the North Country.  This past weekend, the Bears had two outside crews, one from Syracuse, the other from who knows where.  How is it an advantage to the NC teams when we play Cortland and the refs are from Syracuse? (and half of the refs were phys ed majors at either Cortland or Brockport.)

I will say that the SUNYAC has it's ugly road trips,  Potsdam/Plattsburgh to Fredonia is no prize, either are the Rochester teams having to drive through 200 miles of constant lake effect to get to Potsdam, that may have more to do with performance than alleged favortism of NC refs.  In general, I can't think of a single ref I've seen over the last 6 seasons that I would say has unfairly favored the home team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 03:15:02 PM
"...I will say that the SUNYAC has it's ugly road trips,  Potsdam/Plattsburgh to Fredonia is no prize, either are the Rochester teams having to drive through 200 miles of constant lake effect to get to Potsdam ..."

Speaking of Lake Effect, I believe Oswego may have feet of snow as of this weekend.   I agree with TheBear, going over to Lake Erie was no picnic back in the day.  Going down to Binghamton and Cortland wasn't either.
Of course back then, Potsdam and Plattsburgh usually could win both games fairly easily. I never saw a Brockport loss, or a loss to Geneseo in league play from 1975-80.  We made the Buffalo dual games once in an old International Suburban-like tank and two vista-cruiser wagons.   I never heard so many BIG (Tall) babies crying about leg room in my life.    I don't even think it was legal for a college student to be driving other students in a state owned vehicle (even back in those days).   I remember blowing a tire going 75+ mph on the road up to Montreal Canada to scrimmage McGill University.  Scared the living crap out of the passengers let alone the driver (me).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 21, 2008, 03:20:54 PM
"...yeah your right, that was last year in the sweet 16...  "

And to think Dan Mueller's, father was going to hire me... 
Where is that kid now ?   Is he playing semi-pro or anything ?


FYI  Dan Mueller's father played on the same High School team
with Plattsburgh Coach Tom Curle (Waterloo NY).  Another member
of their squad was a guy named John Schweitz

Position: Guard
Height: 6-6    Weight: 210 lbs.
Born: April 19, 1960 in Waterloo, New York
High School: Waterloo in Waterloo, New York
College: University of Richmond

Drafted by the Boston Celtics in the 6th round (23rd pick, 138th overall) of the 1982 NBA draft.
also played for Seattle and Detriot 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 21, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
The burg has recruted better than the port? Are you serious with that? The fact of the matter is that it is alot easier to get accepted at the burg than it is at the PORT. That is not my opinion that is a fact.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2008, 09:11:04 PM
FisherDynasty

You are correct. Fisher did beat Plattsburgh LAST year, but it was the round of 32. Brockport beat Fisher by 14 in the sweet 16 in Fisher's gym.

Plattsburgh had to play Rochester the night before they played Fisher and we all know about the big comeback and the big shot at the end to win it. Fisher on the other hand got to play Wentworth Tech, probably one of the worst teams in the tournament(they were 9-7 in their conf. 17-12 overall), and most of Fisher's starters were comfortably seated on the bench with lots of time left in the game. That plus the fact that Fisher enjoyed home court adv. was a bit much for the Cards of Pbugh St. to overcome.  Not trying to take anything away from Fisher they had a good team last year, but I think if we could have played them in our gym things might have been different. This is a new year and Plattsburgh has been taking care of business lately and hopefully will continue to do so. Big win for Fisher the other night against Stevens. Hope your Cards win the E8 tourney and we get to see you down the road. I'm rooting for Fisher as I don't want the newcomer to walk off with the honors their 1st year in the league.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 21, 2008, 09:23:12 PM
B-port - You are absolutely right about getting into the Burg and not Brockport. Johnny Carter, Frazier and Arteberry were all turned down by Brockport---That's how they ended up at the Burg. Thanks for the correction!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
Plattsburgh State moves up 4 spots to #17 in the D3 top 25 from #21. Surprised to see Virginia Wesleyan jump ahead of Pburgh. They beat 2 lowly conference teams while Plattsburgh won 2 games,  one of them over Cortland, who was undefeated in conference play. Also think Augustana is a little overated with 4 losses and a 2-2 conference record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 21, 2008, 09:57:30 PM
Tell me how NYU gets two votes in the Top 25 poll with a 10-4 record and loss to Geneseo! Someone please explain that logic--Thank you
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2008, 11:19:32 PM
scooterman
Probably 2 coaches or SID's from the UAA conference voted for NYU.


On the topic of Refs. I have to assume you're trying to toy with us North Country boys. You can't really believe all that hogwash you've been spouting about refs and coaches riding to the game together and hometown offcials. You should listen to the Bear I've never known him to be wrong about anything he's posted. I do know a D3 ref who lives in Plattsburgh but he's never done a Plattsburgh State Game. I believe he's the only 1 in this area. I've attended all the Plattsburgh home games this year and most of them last year and we're usually getting crews out of the Albany area or Syracuse.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2008, 12:56:53 AM
If you're advocating for Geneseo to get votes based on a Nov. 18 game against NYU, perhaps you should look at Geneseo's past five games. It's clear it's not Nov. 18 anymore.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2008, 03:47:30 AM
Pat

I certainly wasn't advocating for Geneseo to get votes. I happen to agree with you.
I was merely stating to scooterman (somewhat tongue in cheek) how NYU got 2 votes. In fact I sent my Top 25 to Mr. Ypsi for his posters poll on Sun. evening and had 24 out of the 25 in the D3 poll. I omitted Guilford and added Oxy. I think scooterman wasn't advocating Geneseo either. He probably didn't feel NYU deserved any votes for losing to a 5th place in their conference 10-4 Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 22, 2008, 10:15:47 AM
magicman--You see right through me man! There are alot of factors playing into the North Country trip. Potsdam and the Burg are difficult places to play so if you walk out with a win you feel like you have accomplished something. I do know this to be factual though--the Burg's standards for admission is lower than the Port. Carter, Frazier and Arteberry were denied admission at the Port. We all know they played at Plattsburgh. Anyway it should be a great weekend for Div 3 hoops in the North Country. Enjoy!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 22, 2008, 11:15:26 AM
As far as referees in the North Country. There are at least 3 that I know of that are from Potsdam and the surrounding area. One is Brian Fairchild, who's son and daughter both play ball at Potsdam. I would assume he doesn't do Potsdam games anymore, I would think he still does St. Lawrence, Clarkson, and Canton games. Another is Gordie Atkins, who is from the Ogdensburg's area . The last one is a guy who's name doesn't come to mind but is a older fella who is just a little guy who either looks drunk or smells like cigarettes all the time. As I do recall, Plattsburgh usually has guys from Albany area do their games. Any way you look at it trips to Potsdam/Plattsburgh aren't fun because of 1) weather, 2) long trip, and 3) never knowing which referee crew you will get.

At places like Cortland/SUNYIT, you usually get Syracuse refs and occasionally get some Southern Tier guy at Cortland. At Fredonia/Buff St. you'll get Buffalo guys. Oneonta/New Paltz you'll get Albany/Poughkeepsie guys. Brockport/Geneseo you'll get Rochester and very randomly Buffalo. Oswego either gets Syracuse or Utica guys. Potsdam will get a range of Syracuse, Utica, and North Country for home games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 22, 2008, 03:21:43 PM
Thanks for your input-slicky--Sounds like you played a few times or coached up there--Anyway thanks for the input
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 22, 2008, 04:43:08 PM
"...Any way you look at it trips to Potsdam/Plattsburgh aren't fun because of 1) weather, 2) long trip, and 3) never knowing which referee crew you will get...."

1. Weather - since when is the weather any worse in Potsdam and Plattsburgh than in the Buffalo, Rochester and Oswego areas?  Having made those trips for more years than I want to admit to, I would say I would much rather travel up the Northway to Plattsburgh than go anywhere near Rte 81 or Rte 104 during a snow storm. 

2. long trip.    The travel from Plattsburgh and Potsdam are equally as long and arduous to Buffalo, Cortland, Rochester, Oneonta, New Paltz. 

3.  A team will get this no matter where they go.  From my experience I see the same groups of referees  covering the same teams for many many years. Some are good, some are bad, some are too horrible to use words to illustrate their questionable judgements and interpretations of the rules.   To make it seem like Potsdam AND Plattsburgh lead the field with "homer" referees is short sighted.    I come from the era when Pete Pavia, Murph Shapiro and a couple of times even Larry Lembo were on crews in the Rochester area. I believe Murph has been related to MCC since that time and was fairly close to Panaggio.   ALL areas in NY and probably the country has perceived home team bias crews or individuals. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 22, 2008, 08:47:26 PM
I can only comment from my personal observations-of about 15 d-3 games this year ranging from Buffalo to NYC to Albany to Potsdam.  I thought the best crew and most fair was a crew I saw in Elmira.  Second was at SUNYAC Potsdam. The best home cooking @NYU with RIT a close second and Lehman College a strong third.  My reasons NYU- Huge 3 pt field goal waived off by a questionable call way away from the ball & what seemed like about 12 travel calls that took points away.  RIT - 3 welcome to Rochester foul calls on best player in about first 3 minutes of the game and a T for agruing about the scorekeeper letting the clock run for about a second & half down to .1.  RIT was up 17 at the time and made both T's.  Lehman enjoys a 37-20 advantage from the foul line and ends the game on a 12-2 run where every point came from the line to win by 3.  Special mention- one individual ref in Potsdam just incompetent against the home team in a Liberty League game- just awful calls.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 22, 2008, 09:23:38 PM
Excellent comments about refs seen throughout NYS. The human factor will always be part of the game and that's what makes it so interesting. I think most officials try to do their best to be fair and call what they see! We all admit there are a few, for whatever their reasons, are homers and this will never change. How is that for the obvious. I can think of a half dozen that think the games are played to watch them officiate-- too bad!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2008, 10:28:30 PM

  Oneonta barrels past New Paltz 75-54 at OSt where hosts build on 32-21 lead at half. Thirteen Dragons score led by reserve pair M. Latino's 13 pts (5x5fg), 7 rebs in 14' and B. Hooks 12 pts (4x6fg) in 15'. R. Fisk with 10 pts(2x7fg, 2x5 3s) in 25'. Connect 28x60fg and hold 42-36 board margin. NP 23x63fg, 1x11 3s. L. Bertram 20 pts(8x18fg), 13 rebs; K. Nelson 14 pts(7x12fg), 4pf in 23'

  Morrisville drops 81-79 issue to Cazenovia. Caz in front 43-37 entering final period. Mville's D. Spencer 28 pts(11x20fg), 13 rebs; W. Jackson 17 pts(6x12fg, 3x7 3s); T. Armstead 10 pts, 6 assts. In 32x77fg frame of mind and outreb Caz 46-34. Winners go 30x61fg, 8x24 3s and paced by E. Sauer's 19 pts. Three others in double figures

  Oswego 66, Utica College 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2008, 11:05:18 PM

Oswego's T. Downing 19 pts; N. Perioli 12 pts, 7 assts; K. Pollard 12 pts; D. White 7 rebs; M. Jabbi 4 blks. UC's J. McClendon 20 pts, 10 rebs; D. Herring 15 pts. Pioneers 21 trnvrs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 22, 2008, 11:29:35 PM
RIT - 3 welcome to Rochester foul calls on best player in about first 3 minutes of the game and a T for agruing about the scorekeeper letting the clock run for about a second & half down to .1.

Every time Plattsburgh played at any school in Rochester in games I was at, their best or best two players had exactly the SAME thing happen to them.  Not always that quickly but always before halfway through the first half.    I don't usually comment about time keepers and score keepers unless I actually catch them sleeping or cheating.  Been there, done that.  I had at least 3 home scorekeepers replaced for various reasons.  One was not recording time outs. I called ref over to notify him the other team (Oneonta I believe) was out of time outs.  When the ref didn't see any in the official book, he didn't call the T but removed the scorer and I became the official book.   In a game at Middlebury 1978-79 season we beat them at the buzzer (even though it never went off).  The moronic clock operator never turned on the auto buzzer switch.  I told him to because he didn't do it for the first half either.  He also was slow on the draw shutting the clock off.   I called the officials over three times about him.  HE was pissed off at me.  During the end of the game discussion the officials asked me about the situation and thank god they were communicating with each other and in position.  They allowed the shot, we beat them by one. The Middlebury coaching staff  was furious at me for taking to the officials.   They wouldn't allow me to use their phone to call in the scores to the ECAC, SUNYAC or our local paper.     Ahhh the good old days.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 23, 2008, 12:11:35 AM
Cards you are a card!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2008, 12:22:06 AM
Speaking of weather. Heard the Oswego area just got about 3 feet of snow, in the past couple of days.  Plattsburgh, on the other hand has about 2 inches on the ground
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2008, 12:51:38 AM
 Quote from with age comes?
I can only comment from my personal observations-of about 15 d-3 games this year ranging from Buffalo to NYC to Albany to Potsdam. 


with age
Sounds like you've made the rounds this year. Are you planning to attend the PBurgh-Bport game this Sat at Memorial Hall? Weather report for the weekend sounds favorable for travelers.


How about you Cards? Gonna make that long trip up from Western N.Y. to see what should be the best regular season SUNYAC game this year?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 23, 2008, 01:21:09 AM
"...How about you Cards? Gonna make that long trip up from Western N.Y. to see what should be the best regular season SUNYAC game this year?..."

This is group project week in my MBA course.  :-\  I would if I could, but I can't so I won't.
I'm already there in spirit.   I may come up for Senior Night the last home game.  I will also be
going to Cortland at Cortland.   I will clear my schedule for their NCAA run.

I will also attend the end of the year dinner that the Canadian Studies guy has each year. I had a blast
last year talking with Tom Brennan (Vermont coach and current ESPN talking head).  Turns out he grew up
in the same home town as my mom and knows some of the same people.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 23, 2008, 01:23:52 AM
"...Speaking of weather. Heard the Oswego area just got about 3 feet of snow, in the past couple of days...."

Yes this is true.  In Fulton the snow collapsed the roof of one of the department of public works buildings.  Those large snow blowing machines were in it.  They still can't determine the full extent of the damage.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 23, 2008, 01:33:39 AM
Magic- Will be up north but will be taking in a Vassar team game.  I've seen P-burg already- athletic as anybody but not very deep in my opinion.  Tend to let inferior teams hang around a little but beat them down with the nasty zone trap press. Worried that starters may tire down the stretch because of too many minutes.  Haven't seen Vassar at all in the past five years so as much as I would like to see that game I'll probably stop in Canton or Potsdam. Want to see if this Avitibile at Vassar is for real. Know I'll be missing a tremendous game up in the far north.  By the way I think it was 4 feet of snow- drove through it last weekend after route 81 was closed. Pray I don't get repeat this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2008, 03:20:22 AM
 with age comes?
Coach Curle has been playing his bench more the past few games than he did earlier in the season. But I agree with you they are a little thin there. Also agree that they let too many teams hang around.  The 2 freshman, Errol Daniyan and Chris Ruiz have been improving with every game and are usually the 1st 2 off the bench. Daniyan had a good game against Cortland last week playing about 18 mins. and scoring 13 pts. The box score said he only played 6 mins. but that was wrong. I think that was only his 1st half min. Ruiz played 17 mins and scored 9 pts on 4x8 shots with 4 assists and 3 boards. Williams, of course, is the engine that drives the Cards, but Gorham and Hunt can step up big time if necessary. Gorham is a beast on the boards and Hunt has a nice stroke for a big guy. He buried a 3 against Cortland with 1:40 left to put the Cards up 68-65. Williams is a good shooter and draws a lot of fouls because of his penetration but rarely does he get the bucket and the foul on a lot of those drives settling instead for the foul shots. He's a little out of control sometimes and should be looking to dish off to one of his bigs because he draws the double team so much . But overall I wouldn't trade him for anybody I've seen. He has an uncanny ability to hit the big shot when needed. As he goes, so goes the Cards. Don't know how far the team can go this year but do feel they deserve to be in the NCAA's if they don't win the automatic bid.

Sounds like you're going to see Vassar play St Lawrence or Clarkson. My advice? Take in the SLU-Vassar game. My prediction SLU by 3. They are better than their record indicates and they've been on a roll lately. Vassar is having a good year so far but this game is for 1st place(I think, unless Clarkson upset The Larries tonight)  Have a safe trip. 

Oops just went to the LL page and saw where you posted the SLU-Clarkson score. No surprises there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 23, 2008, 06:37:13 PM
Magic- good news about increased bench play for the Burgs.  Feel that b-port, platt and u of r are the best chances for a NY team to go deep at this point and to do that you've got to have your studs fresh.  I also tend to agree that Vassar may have a tough go against the Larries.  Also will probably take in an RPI game against one of the north country schools too.  They played a pretty tough non-league schedule and could surprise.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2008, 07:55:32 PM
wac?


You're right about those 3 having the best chance to go deep. Unfortunately come tourney time they'll have to bump each other off.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2008, 03:29:19 AM
Tom Brennan is one of the funniest guys on the planet. Haven't seen him in years. He used to make it over to Pburgh when the PBA tournament was a yearly affair and Mike Deane would make his annual trip up for that. I do try to catch Brennan on ESPN whenever I can on the weekends. His radio show in Vermont is hilarious.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 24, 2008, 10:48:18 AM
hey guys--What's the story on this weekend's burg-Bport game? I like B-port only because its a MUST game for them. They really need to get a good streak going and the Burg would be a HUGE win. I just hope they dont look  past the Bears because they are always dangerous at home.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 24, 2008, 07:48:17 PM
Agreed that B-ports with 5 early losses has to be more desparate. It's such a long journey though I have to say that Burg in a squeaker, though that's not what my heart necessarly wants..  Also agreed that the Bears are an athletic team also, and should not be overlooked particularly at home.  Believe B-port will not do that and will win by about 8-10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 25, 2008, 07:11:23 AM
The loss to clarion pa  div 2 school will not count against Bport, keep that in mind. With that said they only have 4 losses not 5.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 25, 2008, 10:12:22 AM
They do have FIVE loses.  This is there results for 2007-08 season from SUNYAC site.

And all losses count as do all wins. Because had they beaten Clarion that WIN would have
counted in their favor.

Sat   Nov   17   8:00 pm   vs   Rowan                  93   -   97   L    Box   Recap
Lebanon Valley Tournament
Sun   Nov   18   1:00 pm   at   Lebanon Valley      W   85   -   78      Box   Recap
Lebanon Valley Tournament
Fri   Nov   30   8:00 pm       New Paltz   C           W   74   -   59       Box   Recap
Tue   Dec   4   7:00 pm      Roberts Wesleyan   W   91   -   77            Box   Recap
Fri   Dec   7   8:00 pm   at    Oneonta   C           W   79   -   74       Box   Recap
Wed   Jan   2   7:00 pm   at   Clarion                 84   -   92   L    Box   Recap
Fri   Jan   4   7:00 pm   at   Hamilton                 62   -   72   L    Box   Recap
Sat   Jan   5   4:00 pm   at   St. Lawrence         78   -   86   L    Box   Recap
Wed   Jan   9   8:15 pm   at   St. John Fisher      W   88   -   87       Box   Recap
JP Morgan/Chase Basketball Tournament
Fri   Jan   11   8:15 pm   at   Rochester                    70   -   75   L    Box   Recap
J.P. Morgan/Chase Tournament
Sat   Jan   12   3:00 pm   vs    Geneseo              W   83   -   59       Box   Recap
J.P. Morgan/Chase Tournament
Tue   Jan   15   8:00 pm       Geneseo   C           W   84   -   79      
Fri   Jan   18   8:00 pm       Oswego   C           W   90   -   76      
Sat   Jan   19   4:00 pm       Morrisville   C            W   92   -   65      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2008, 10:12:56 AM
I agree with you B-port it might not be that big a factor and also Rowan loss is out of region BUT Roberts win and Lebanon Valley win are out of region and NAIA win. Maybe they negate each other. Hopefully if the Eagles finish 19-6 or 18-7 with 2 wins in the SUNYAC tourney their past tourney performances will earn them some consideration. No matter how you look at it ---BIG WEEKEND IN NORTH COUNTRY FOR THE EAGLES. GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 25, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on January 25, 2008, 10:12:22 AM
They do have FIVE loses.  This is there results for 2007-08 season from SUNYAC site.

And all losses count as do all wins. Because had they beaten Clarion that WIN would have
counted in their favor.

Not in the NCAA Tournament selection process, they don't.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2008, 02:31:21 PM
Pat--Am I correct in my thinking from my post?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2008, 09:44:37 PM

Cortland swamps New Paltz 67-42 at CSt where Dragons build on 38-27 lead at half. W. Coston 19 pts (8x9ft); C. Niehoff 13 pts. Corts 24x58fg. NP K. Nelson 7 pts; V. Alvarez 7 pts; 17x48fg

  Oneonta 80, SUNYIT 64 at IT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2008, 10:33:00 PM

    Oswego over Buffalo State 91-83 as Lakers erase 41-39 BS lead at midway mark. N. Perioli trey at 17:49 gives OSt lead for good. Perioli 27 pts(10x17fg, 2x4 3s), 7 assts, 6 rebs in 40'. Lakers 35x70fg as was BS. OSt 19x35fg in second half. Go 6x19 3s to Bengals 3x9. Laker M. Jabbi 24 pts(12x17fg), 3 stls, 3 blks; T. Downing 16 pts, 5 assts; K. Reuter 13 pts(5x10fg, 3x8 3s). BS D. Mozelle 22 pts(10x19fg), 17 rebs, 4pf in 33'; J. Tyndel 15 pts; A. Samedi 15 pts; J. Gray 12 pts, 5 stls; N. Wilkes 11 pts. BS 21 trnrvs

     Morrisville stops guest Fredonia 61-52. Mounts 31-13 intermission margin. D. Spencer 17 pts(4x9fg, 2x5 3s), 9 rebs, 4 assts. Stangs 19x46fg. Fred's J. Kane 11 pts(5x7fg), 12 rebs; B. Cooper 9 pts(2x14fg). Devils 20x62fg, 5x26 first half

    Oneonta tops IT, holding 33-30 lead at half. Gap just three with 9:18 left, then OSt gathers steam. Goes 29x64fg including 16x29 second half, 9x22 3s. R. Fisk 19 pts(7x12fg, 5x10 3s); M. Grimes 15 pts(6x10fg), 15 rebs; R. Morin 13 pts(6x11fg); B. Hooks 10 pts. IT 21x69fg, 5x25 3s. A. Edwards 15 pts; D. Hahn 11 pts(5x8fg), 11 rebs; D. Moore 10 pts

     Brockport 82, Potsdam 68 in north country
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2008, 10:40:10 PM
Plattsburgh State 66 Geneseo State 44
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2008, 10:42:57 PM

    Brockport's D. Maldonado off bench for 20 pts(5x5 3). Eagles by six at half and 20 pts at 4' barrier. M. Wilkes 14 pts; B. Williams 14 pts; Sherod Harris 12 pts including 6x6ft to extend streak to 28 straight
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2008, 10:58:00 PM
Plattsburgh St. comes out flatter than a pancake as Geneseo opens up with a 13-4 lead in Memorial Hall. Gens. extend lead to17-4 with 9:12 left in the first half. Cards finally get it going led by E. Daniyan and C. Ruiz off the bench, to close to within17-15 at the 6 minute mark. Blue Knights hang on to a 25-23 edge at the half. Back and forth action to open the 2nd until Plattsburgh grabs their 1st lead of the game at 32-30 with 14:15 left. Cards never looked back, going on a 28-6 run to make it 60-36 with 3:40 to play. Cards outscored Geneseo 43-19 in 2nd half. A. Williams led the way with 16 pts and 6 rebounds T. Gorham 12 pts 11 boards. E.Daniyan with 14 and C.Ruiz with 9 off the bench. Geneseo averaging 4 players in double figures failed to have anyone hit double digits tonight. J Kling with 9 and B. Simpson with 6 led the Blue Knights.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2008, 11:10:50 PM
So the awaited match up is here--The Burg and The Port. Should be a thriller tomorrow PM. I got the Port by 4--Lightnin Rod and B-Dubs will be at their best and tough to stop. I know its a long ride from Potsdam to the Burg but game on boys! Make it a sweet ride home with the No.1 seed in "The Tut." Good Luck Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 25, 2008, 11:14:20 PM
F-in A Cards  by 22 points

I didn't expect that.   Best defensive game for them in a long time.
Makes them 2-2 w-l in games when they are held under 70 points.

I should drive up there tomorrow.    :-\  damn MBA group project week  :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 25, 2008, 11:15:56 PM
"...with the No.1 seed in "The Tut."...:"

Still a long SUNYAC season to go.   One win does not the #1 seed make.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2008, 11:20:26 PM
It would be the tie-breaker if and when the regular season ends--I think you would agree Card that they will probably be 1 and 2 seeds. Yes?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2008, 12:14:07 AM
As expected both Plattsburgh St. and Brockport St. took care of business tonight setting up the big matchup tomorrow afternoon at Memorial Hall in Pburgh. Home court means nothing when these 2 square off so a Brockport win wouldn't surprise me at all but I sure hope it doesn't happen. Can't remember if Pburgh ever hosted the SUNYAC tournament, sure would like it to happen this year.  GO CARDS!!!

Scooterman
Most likely they will be the top 2 seeds in the tourney. Bport still has to go on the road to Oswego, Cortland and Geneseo and its possible they could lose 2 of these games(not likely but possible.) Likewise the Cardinals have to play at Cortland and Potsdam so tomorrow's winner could still end up in 2nd place overall with 2 or 3 losses. Last year Port was clearly the top team in the reg. season with a 14-2 record while the Cards took 2nd at 11-5. And we all saw how that played out in the tournament. Cards trying to win 3rd championship in a row and the odds aren't in their favor to do that .
Actually not a very long ride from Potsdam to Plattsburgh. Only about 90 minutes.


Congrats to the Morrisville Mustangs for their 1st win in the SUNYAC conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2008, 12:35:16 AM
And then there was 1. U-Mass-Dartmouth only undefeated team left in D3. Who'd a thunk it?  Both Rochester and #2 Brandeis go down Fri. nite. Still expect UR to hold onto the top spot with Amherst moving up to #2.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 26, 2008, 12:35:54 AM
"...It would be the tie-breaker if and when the regular season ends--I think you would agree Card that they will probably be 1 and 2 seeds. Yes?...."

I think they proved last year that there is NO HOME COURT advantage.  Come to think of it, the last TWO years they proved that.   

Like MagicMan, I don't recall Plattsburgh ever hosting the SUNYAC tournament.  It used to be permanent in Utica for awhile and they haven't been the #1 in the regular season since I was there back in 75-80.  Even when the CARDS finish 16-0 in the Regular season it means nothing IF they don't win the Tourney.   I prefer to go one game at a time and always  hope that they understand the History they are creating for the school, the program and themselves.    Each year is a building year.  Two years ago they lost in the first round of the NCAAs because their GO TO GUY didn't COME THROUGH.  Last year they played their hearts out at St John Fisher after the emotionally and physically draining U or R victory. 
I think the returners ALL understand the mission this year, and I don't forget to remind them. 

In order for this team to even get the proper amount of respect they deserve at the school they have to win the NCAA because they have to compete against not one but two Nationally ranked and previous winners  in Ice Hockey.  (Men's and Women's).    Hockey became kings back in the late 1970's at Plattsburgh and remains that way.  However I think Tom Curle has taken what Larry Cowen and Jones started and stepped up the program to the highest level ever.  (except during my time :) )   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 26, 2008, 12:37:47 AM
"... U-Mass-Dartmouth only undefeated team left in D3. Who'd a thunk it?  Both Rochester and #2 Brandeis go down Fri. nite....." 

Probably still suffering the emotional and physical fatigue from their Sunday game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2008, 01:29:52 AM
posted byCards7580

Probably still suffering the emotional and physical fatigue from their Sunday game. 


Lots of time off after that game between them last Sunday. Its not like a Fri. Sat back to back games. These young guys shouldn't be affected by any physical fatigue and as far as emotional fatigue for UR they won on Sun.and should have been in a great frame of mind. Maybe the long plane ride to Atlanta hurt. I don't think they take a bus on a trip that long. That would be a real killer. Brandeis just had a letdown between big games against UR and Washington on Sunday as Marty Perez stated on the Top 25 board.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2008, 05:17:18 AM
Sat. Predictions

Plattsburgh 78 Bport 75

Cortland 70 Oneonta 66

Buff St  88 Morrisville 75

Oswego 84  Fredonia 65

Geneseo 72 Potsdam  67

SUNYIT  75  New Paltz 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 26, 2008, 07:11:28 AM
Just catching up on the SUNYAC news

Bear we will have get together some time to share Chateuagay stories.  My mom went to high school with Jerry Welsh's sister

Drove up to Glens Falls last March to watch Chateaugay in the state finals.  They tried but the back to back games were their undoing.  For a town 3 miles for Canada and only known for world famous chesse.  They did good.

Haven't been able to make it to Potsdam this year.  Finally get see them next weekend at New Paltz.  New Paltz finally has a first class gym.

Next school which needs to upgrade is Plattsburgh.  I believe they are the only school still playing in their original gym.  What did they do with the money when Rockefeller was handing it out?  They also refuse to play in the gym which the Olympics built for them.  The hockey team uses it why not the basketball team?  You have a top tier team, need to upgrade the home court.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 26, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
" ...What did they do with the money when Rockefeller was handing it out?  They also refuse to play in the gym which the Olympics built for them.  The hockey team uses it why not the basketball team?..."

Having played hoops on the court in the Field House at PLattsburgh I can tell you that the composit surface has bubbles in it.  In the NCAA final four year they played there up until Larry Parker almost broke his ankle during a loss against Division II Southhamton.  Basketball should be played on wood surfaces not rubber/plastic.  The switch to Memorial Gym was the best thing they did.  IT is "our" Cameron Hall.  From what I have heard the dead spots in the floor  have been repaired and it looks alot better than when I was up there.  Much better to have 500-600 people in a 1200-1500 seat gym then have the same number of fans in a 3500 seat ghost town.

FYI the Olympics didn't build the field house for Plattsburgh.  In fact about the only thing the Olympic experience got Plattsburgh was a poorly Patched running track surface.  It was the World University Games that helped get the field house built. The facilities at Plattsburgh were used by the US Olympic team in 1976 as a staging area on route to the Montreal Olympics  The field house was built before 1974.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 26, 2008, 12:21:08 PM
Cards and Magicman--You are correct that home court means nothing with the Burg and Bport. The last 2 yrs bears that out--I wish I could be there today because I think it will be a championship game atmosphere. Everybody knows these are two top 25 teams battling for supremacy!!If both teams can't stay pumped and focused for 40 minutes they won't come out on top. Get them---Eagles!!!!!Enjoy the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 26, 2008, 02:07:02 PM
"...knows these are two top 25 teams battling for supremacy..."

Only one top 25  ::)

It's only one game and nobody's life is at stake. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 26, 2008, 02:10:40 PM
Any Cortland fans know why Freshman Chris Milke hasn't been in the last couple of box scores ?
Did he get hurt ?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2008, 06:42:59 PM
Plattsburgh St. 81 Brockport State 78  in OT     Details to follow
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 26, 2008, 06:54:52 PM
no, we want the details NOW !!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2008, 06:57:32 PM

Cortland 79, Oneonta 67
Buffalo St. 78, Morrisville 71
Geneseo 72, Potsdam 68
  SUNYIT 69, New Paltz 57

  Fredonia at Oswego, 8 p.m.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2008, 07:22:53 PM

Cortland out to 18-2 lead, jacks to 20 pts, 41-25 at half and never under double figures in second frame. Soph P. Oliver 16 pts(7x13fg), 16 rebs in 30'; W. Coston 17 pts(6x14fg) after 19 pt., 7 assts game Friday; M. Lewis 16 pts(5x11fg), 9 rebs; D. Fish 5 assts; C. Niehoff 9 pts; fr R. Evans 9 pts. OSt's M. Grimes 20 pts(7x9fg, 2x3 3s), 9 rebs, 4 assts; R. Fisk 12 pts(4x16fg, 3x8 3s)

  Buffalo St. down 41-34 at half to Morrisville. BS finishes 25x60fg, 9x15 3s. J. Gray 29 pts(10x17fg); D. Mozelle 15 pts and nets career 1,000th; N. Wilkins 15 pts(5x9 3s). Mville 27x79fg, 7x31 3s. T. Foster 19 pts(7x20fg, 4x12 3s), 6 rebs in 29'; D. Spencer 13 pts; W. Jackson 12 pts; T. Armstead 10 pts; J. McCants 10 pts

   SUNYIT comes back from 30-29 halftime deficit to trim NP. D. Golembiowski 17 pts(6x9fg, 3x5 3s); M. Haynesworth 13 pts; D. Moore 13 pts, 13 rebs; A. Edwards 11 pts, 10 rebs. NP's K. Nelson 12 pts; A. James 12 pts; M. Hauser 11 pts; L. Bertram 11 pts, 11 rebs

  Potsdam's D. Brown 17 pts; A. Dike 7 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2008, 07:29:28 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh-Brockport game and worn out just from watching. Just like last night the Cards got off to a slow start and fell behind 10-2 in the early going. Brockport led by S. Harris and M. Wilkes extended their lead to 28-16 with 5 mins. left in 1st half. Cards closed to trail 32-27 at the break. Lots of turnovers by both teams but good defense by both as well. More of the same for much of the 2nd half with Golden Eagles maintaining a 4-6 pt lead until Pburgh finally grabbed a short lived lead at 53-52 with 4:30 left to play. Bport back in front 62-56 by 2:24 mark . A. Williams hit a 3 and E.Daniyan a bucket to cut it to 1 at 1:30 mark. Wilkes for Port then Daniyan for Pburgh traded buckets and after a missed Bport posession, Pburgh had the ball with 30 secs. left down 64-63. They wound the clock down and Williams nailed a 3 with 11 secs. to go. Bport got the ball in to S. Harris who went the length of the court to the hoop and was fouled by T. Gorham with 3.8 left(his 5th foul). Harris calmly swished both FT's and a long 3 at the buzzer by A. Williams for the Cards  was short.
In overtime Plattsburgh drew 1st blood with a 3 by A. Miller followed by another 3 by K. Hunt to grab a quick 6 pt lead. Cards extended the lead to 77-66 on 5 FT's before S. Harris made a driving layup with 2 mins. left. At that point the foul parade by Bport started and Plattsburgh let the Port team hang around by missing way too many down the stretch. Bport actually had a chance to tie at the buzzer when S. Harris had a decent 3 pt. attempt that rimmed out at the buzzer.
Plattsburgh was led by Anthony Williams with 24 pts and 7 rebounds. Khylan Hunt had 13pts 12 boards and 4blocks. Travis Gorham leading rebounder in the conference was huge again with 17 boards 9pts and 6 assists. Errol Daniyan off the bench with 12 points and 4 boards and Chris Ruiz also off the bench with 11pts. 4 rebounds and 4 assists.
The Golden Eagles were led by Sherod Harris with 21 pts. and 6 assists, Mychal Wilkes with 21pts. Cantrel Parrish with 14 pts. and 12 boards and Brandon Williams with 13 pts. and 15 rebounds.
Plattsburgh now gains a leg up in the race to hold the Conference tourney with an 8-0 record while Bport holds the top spot in the West division with a 6-1 mark  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 26, 2008, 07:32:36 PM
And the same game story from Brockport's Web Site

Senior Sherod Harris (Rochester, NY/Gates-Chili) hit a pair of free throws with less than four seconds left in the second half to tie the score and force overtime in a State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) game against SUNY Plattsburgh, ranked No. 17 in the country in the latest D3Hoops.com poll, Saturday in Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh.

In overtime, however, the Golden Eagles (10-6 Overall, 6-1 SUNYAC) missed their first five shots – all from beyond the 3-point arc – and Plattsburgh (14-2, 8-0) took advantage scoring the first 10 points of the overtime period and then held on as Harris' last second 3-pointer missed the mark giving the Cardinals an 81-78 victory.

Brockport held a 32-27 lead at the end of the first half and controlled the play for all of the first 20 minutes and most of the second half as well. Plattsburgh took its first lead of the game with five minutes remaining on a Chris Ruiz 3-point basket at 53-52.

Brockport regained control and scored the next six points but with the score 64-63 with just over a minute to play, Harris missed his first free throw in seven games snapping a streak of 28 straight shots from the line. Both teams missed free throws over the next 45 seconds and Plattsburgh took a 2-point lead on an Anthony Williams 3-point basket with 11.4 seconds left in the second half.

Harris took the inbounds pass a raced the length of the court driving the lane and was fouled by Plattsburgh's Travis Gorham with 3.8 seconds left. Harris calmly started a new free throw streak with two shots in front of a screaming crowd to tie the game at 66-66 and force an overtime period.

Plattsburgh jumped out to a 77-66 lead in the extra session before Harris scored a pair of layup baskets and a short jumper to make it a 79-72 game with 48 seconds left. After Plattsburgh missed three-of-four free throws at the other end of the court, Harris hit another driving layup and hit a foul shot for a 3-point play to cut the Cardinal lead to 80-75.

Another free throw by Plattsburgh made it a six-point game at 81-75 but Mychal Wilkes (Newark, NY/Newark) buried a long fade away two-point jumper and Aaron Poles (Rochester, NY/Rush-Henrietta) hit 1-fo-2 free throws to cut the lead to three points at 81-78 with nine seconds left to play.

Plattsburgh's Errol Daniyan missed two free throws and Cantrel Parrish (Buffalo, NY/Grover Cleveland) grabbed the defensive rebound, shuffled a pass to Harris who struggled to control the ball but managed to get a shot off that would have tied the game again but the 3-pointer missed the mark.

Harris and Wilkes each finished with 21 points but Harris missed all eight of his 3-point shots. Brandon Williams (Rochester, NY/Edison) scored 13 points and grabbed a team-leading 15 rebounds and Parrish netted 14 points and grabbed 12 rebounds for the Golden Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2008, 10:16:41 PM

  Oswego 72, Fredonia 57

  Geneseo forges late first half lead and goes to break in charge 31-26. Potsdam chases most of second half. Ties at 2:57 but pair of J. Kling ft put Gens on top for good. Knights 26x56fg, 18x25ft, 21 assts. S. Morton 16 pts(5x14fg); J. Howe 16 pts(7x12fg); Kling 11 pts, 6 assts, 5 stls; T. Kitson 10 pts(3x5fg) in 28' as starter; K. Stevens 7 reb. Bears 23x50fg, 18x20ft. Brown 17 pts(5x14fg); T. Reinhardt 16 pts(5x8fg); Dike 11 pts; B. Siskavich 11 pts; B. Graney 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 26, 2008, 11:30:09 PM
Magic--I listened on the radio and it sounded like the first 4 posessions of OT by Bport were all 3 pt attempts by people that dont shoot 3 ptrs regularly for them. Is that true? It didnt sound like they made good decisions in OT on the offensive end. Again I was listening and not actually there--It sounded like a good hard fought game. Still love the Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2008, 01:19:35 AM
Scooterman

I think that is close. I know Jermaine Johnson had a terrible night shooting and don't understand why Bport didn't go to Sherord Harris immediately after Plattsburgh hit the 1st 3 in overtime. Cards scored 11 points in OT before Port got a pt. Twice in a row after that Harris drove to the basket and made a running hook layup while being closely guarded. Bport scored 12 pts in OT and Harris had 9 of em. When Daniyan went to the line for Pburgh with 5 seconds left and only needing 1 of 2 FT's to ice it I was praying he would hit 1. After missing the 1st, I told my buddy with me that we're in trouble if he misses the 2nd one because there was enough time for Harris to go down and get a good look at a 3. Sure enough that's what happened and He almost pulled it off. Don't understand how Plattsburgh even let him take that shot. Should have fouled him the minute he crossed the half court line, cause if he makes a 3 and sends it to double OT the Cards had Gorham & Williams on the bench with 5 fouls each.
Harris is a fine player and this was my 1st chance to see him play. He didn't disappoint me. If I was voting for Player of the Year my vote would be evenly split between Harris and Williams. Harris loses out only because he didn't play 1st semester. Wilkes can play as well. He had 13 in the 1st half. Glad we don't have to travel to Bport to face them again. Once more in the Championship game will do quite nicely.
By the way did you happen to catch my predictions for tonite's games in the SUNYAC? 6 for 6. Missed the Geneseo-Potsdam game by a point & had the 3 pt. spread on the big game correct. On the Empire 8 board on the 23rd I had Fisher beating Utica and SLU taking down Vassar 69-66 for the 1st place matchup in the LL. Wish I had a bookie that would 've taken my bets. I'd of cleaned up. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:48 AM
"....By the way did you happen to catch my predictions for tonite's games in the SUNYAC? 6 for 6. Missed the Geneseo-Potsdam game by a point & had the 3 pt. spread on the big game correct. On the Empire 8 board on the 23rd I had Fisher beating Utica and SLU taking down Vassar 69-66 for the 1st place matchup in the LL. Wish I had a bookie that would 've taken my bets. I'd of cleaned up. ..."

Stop bragging, everyone knows about your TIME MACHINE in the basement. IT's easy to make predictions when you spend all week in the FUTURE  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 27, 2008, 11:10:50 AM
Hey Magic give me the spreads for a couple of Big East games.... I'd love to retire early!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 27, 2008, 01:30:08 PM
I'll take a piece of that action, too!! Help us retire early. Take care guys
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2008, 02:02:29 PM
One good night does not a prognosticator make. Probably couldn't pick my nose in the Big East. Look at what happened yesterday. And it's easy to pick winners when there's nothing on the line. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 27, 2008, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:48 AM
"....By the way did you happen to catch my predictions for tonite's games in the SUNYAC? 6 for 6. Missed the Geneseo-Potsdam game by a point


So YOU were the one who influenced the refs to make bad call after bad call? 

Unfortunately two of our three refs I believe were from the plattsburgh area, wish they had stayed home.

The loss was not totally their fault, but they made three critical bad/missed calls in the last minute that all favored Geneseo.

Worst was a missed charge call on a Geneseo in-bounds play under the Potsdam basket with 1.1 seconds left.  Happened right in front of the ref, bodies flying, obvious charge, no call.

They also wiped out three made baskets by Bears, by calling fouls on the floor, rather than in the act.


Men's & Women's Games Tuesday vs. Plattsburgh Cards are televised on Time Warner.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 27, 2008, 07:26:35 PM
"...Unfortunately two of our three refs I believe were from the plattsburgh area, wish they had stayed home.
Men's & Women's Games Tuesday vs. Plattsburgh Cards are televised on Time Warner...."

  Man, I hope the camera's don't get a shot of those Plattsburgh officials getting off the team bus Tuesday night.  You know how those "North Country officials ride with the coaches".  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 27, 2008, 07:26:58 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on January 27, 2008, 07:26:35 PM
"...Unfortunately two of our three refs I believe were from the plattsburgh area, wish they had stayed home.
Men's & Women's Games Tuesday vs. Plattsburgh Cards are televised on Time Warner...."

  Man, I hope the camera's don't get a shot of those Plattsburgh officials getting off the team bus Tuesday night.  You know how those "North Country" officials ride with the coaches".  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 27, 2008, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on January 27, 2008, 07:26:35 PM

  Man, I hope the camera's don't get a shot of those Plattsburgh officials getting off the team bus Tuesday night.  You know how those "North Country officials ride with the coaches".  ;D

The way our season's been going, that would be par for the course.  No sense giving us the home court advantage for our home game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 27, 2008, 09:07:41 PM
Let's go Bears--Maybe big letdown after tough weekend for the Burg--We can only hope--Instill some life into those Bears--Work it!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 27, 2008, 09:29:18 PM
+k for scooterman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2008, 10:33:17 PM
thebear

I'm sorry. I actually hated to make that prediction as I went to Potsdam St. in the 60's. And Coach Dobbs is from Peru NY  just down the road from where I now reside and his Uncle is a friend of mine. So believe me bear I would love to pick Potsdam all the time. And I made those picks on Thurs. night, before I saw Geneseo play Plattsburgh on Fri.  After watching Geneseo score a whopping 19 pts in the 2nd half against the Cards I thought the Bears were probably going to grab a win on Sat. Sorry to hear about the missed calls that might have cost them the game. I do know one of the refs who did that game and hope it wasn't him that you had issues with. He never does the Plattsburgh St. games but I've seen him do a lot of local high school games and he always does a fine job.

Going to try and make the Potsdam-Plattsburgh game on Tues. in Potsdam if a can talk 1 of the Plattsburgh coaches to ride over with me instead of the team bus. If you're going tell me where you sit and I'll stop by and say hello.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2008, 01:35:38 AM
The ref I know to be from Plattsburgh had his share of bad/missed calls, but so did his crewmates. In particular, in lead position, he called  a foul on a scoring drive to the basket by the Bears in OT, yet let his crew mate, in trail position change it to a charge even though the lead ref had the best position and had made the call.

Really feeling bad for Coach Dobbs right now.  He works his butt off, but his team seems snakebit with injuries (starting PG didn't play against either 'port of Geneseo this weekend), and he gets his team in a position to win or tie, and the Z's don't do their job.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2008, 11:14:59 AM

   Probably shouldn't count out Geneseo from the mix just yet. Knights' lineup getting fit again with return of T. Kitson, certainly one of their aces if not top performer. Saw first action in quite some time and very limited bench duty on Friday. Started and went nearly 30' Saturday. Key test tomorrow night when Gens entertain Corts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2008, 12:22:58 PM
Having seen them both play, would think Cortland has the edge.  They have size and depth in the post, Coston gives them an athletic dimension they haven't had in a while.  Think the Dragons have the edge in the coaching dept as well.  I think Cortland gets more out of their bench, especially with Niehoff & Evans.

SUNYAC really has center stage tomorrow night, great matchups.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 28, 2008, 12:50:30 PM
I agree with the Bear, the Plattsburgh official was going to call a block with a few seconds left, thus sending the game in OT or giving Potsdam the win (depending on the outcome of the foul shot), but the official at mid-court came running in and called the offensive foul. That official was from Watertown. I don't know who was resonsible for the missed call at 1.2 seconds, but it was in such a spot that all 3 had to have seen it. Taft would have had to make both free throws inorder to send the game into OT, but hey, he should have at least had the opportunity as he did sacrifice his body and got plowed over by a much larger and moving player. It's no wonder the 3 officials were gone from the court as the final horn was still sounding..........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: airball55 on January 28, 2008, 06:39:08 PM
Any referee that lives remotely close to Plattsburgh, check that, official, ref., umpire is flat out incompetent.  I don't know if they cheat, I just think they are bad.  Obviously the requirements to join that board up there consist of playing darts at the local legion and just being buddies with some of the current refs.  Not much better over in St. Law. county neither, but all of this is a result of poor H.S. ball in the area.  It still amazes me thought that some of these guys haven't got a little better.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on January 28, 2008, 08:11:39 PM
The reason they never get better is because their are no consequences.  They get rated poorly by the coaches and you still see them getting games.  Thats the problem.  Their is just a shortage of good ref's
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2008, 09:14:22 PM
Quote from: airball55 on January 28, 2008, 06:39:08 PM
but all of this is a result of poor H.S. ball in the area. 

Not sure that's the reason, we see a lot of Albany, Utica, Rochester, Syracuse refs that ref HS with big time talent (Blatche, Paulus etc.) & St. Rose/Le Moyne games, as well as Colgate/Cornell/Binghamton,Siena,U VM games and they're no prize either. 

Since they mix the crews, you never have the same group working together, so get a lot of gaston & alphonse changing/overruling of calls. 

It all gets back to assessment.  Since no one (colleges, conferences, officials boards) wants to pay the $ to properly assess these guys, they can do what ever they want and there are no consequences.  Since the refs can T up anyone they want for any reason, including looking funny at them, they get the "I can do no wrong mentality" 

Unfortunately the integrity of the game is at stake. 

Everyone says, let the players decide it on the floor, unfortunately that degenerates into bloody playground ball where people get hurt.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2008, 03:35:54 AM
Tuesday Night predictions.


Brooklyn 74  New Paltz 70
Cortland 71  Geneseo 68
Plattsburgh 85  Potsdam 72
Oswego  92  Morrisville 69
Brockport 95  SUNYIT 73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 29, 2008, 08:48:07 AM
It is a very sad scenario in regards to rating officials---The coaches have no control over who does their games--They rate officials but get who are assigned--AT LEAST HS coaches can cross out certain officials up to a certain percentage of available officials on their board--college coaches are at the mercy and availability of officials assigned by the assignor--Their jobs depend on their wins and losses many times--need a better system!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 29, 2008, 08:50:02 AM
magic--Like your predictions but am pulling for the Bears for big upset!! Go Bears--claw them up--Dont play like goldilocks--ROAR
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 29, 2008, 09:42:40 AM
Last two games have been classics.  Last year in Potsdam, Bears & Cards went to 2 OT's, Potsdam had a wide open layup to win at the buzzer in 2nd OT, and it didn't go, Cards win 89-88.

Year before, Teams went at each other hammer & tongs for 40 minutes.  Gibbs-Smith drove to the hoop with .07 left, got trapped in the corner, the refs bailed him out, called the foul, he made two for the victory 71-69.
That game started Cards on a run that resulted in their first SUNYAC title.

Lets hope for round III.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2008, 12:58:26 PM

    Also Tuesday: Fredonia at Houghton
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2008, 07:57:16 PM
Thought Fredonia played last night .

Don't know much about Houghton but I'll pick Fredonia 68-66 over Houghton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on January 29, 2008, 08:18:38 PM
Find me a bookie- magic is predicting and I'm retiring early!!!!   :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2008, 09:16:08 PM
Plattsburgh up on Potsdam 43-33 at the half.

Brockport leads SUNYIT  70-55 7:30 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2008, 09:50:14 PM

   Cortland holds off Geneseo 64-60 as M. Schaller hits clinching 2ft at :06. CSt by 14 in second half till 21-7 Knights run made for interesting finish. W. Coston with key defensive play late

   New Paltz falls 84-75 to Brooklyn
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2008, 10:02:35 PM

   Brockport hangs on by 91-88 after 51-31 halftime lead. Bport 29x65fg, 9x25 3s and 57-31 board gap. Sherod Harris 21 pts(8x14fg, 3x7 3s), 8 reb in 29'; M. Wilkes 22 pts(5x10fg, 4x8 3s), 5 assts, 9 rebs; C. Parrish 19 pts(8x13fg), 8 reb in 25'. For IT 30x74fg, 13x25 3s. D. Golembiowski 32 pts(10x18fg, 8x13 3s); A. Edwards 17 pts; D. Moore 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2008, 10:22:13 PM

New Paltz in 38-34 arrears at half although comeback gets Hawks that close. K. Nelson 19 pts(7x11fg), 7 rebs; J. Sugrue 16 pts(4x6 3s); B. Kuar 11 pts; L. Bertram 8 rebs; M. Hauser 5 assts

  Fredonia loses 66-53 to Houghton. Devils down 29-27 at the break and just 52-46 with about 6' left. B. Cooper 19 pts(7x16fg), 3 assts. Freds 21x52fg

  Oswego 83, Morrisville 78
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 29, 2008, 10:38:30 PM
Cardinals of Plattsburgh  87     Bears of Potsdam  70.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2008, 10:45:30 PM
   Plattsburgh 87, Potsdam 70

  Cortland and Geneseo tied at 59 on Knight J. Kling trey about 1:20 from end. W. Coston and M. Lewis free throws give Corts three pt edge. S. Morton ft narrows to two prior to finishing flourish. Guest Dragons by 29-28 at half and behind J. Miolen and R. Evans treys begin to pull away. Twas 52-37 at 11:05. Corts 22x50fg, 5x15 3s. Frosh Evans 17 pts(7x13fg), 4 rebs in 29'; P. Oliver 11 pts; Miolen 10 pts(4x7fg, 2x5 3s); M. Lewis 9 pts, 9 rebs; D. Fish 6 assts. Gen's S. Morton 15 pts(3x5 3s); Kling 14 pts(6x9 fg); T. Kitson 12 pts. Shoot 24x50fg, 5x10 3s

   Oswego behind Morrisville 38-37 at half. Lakers led throughout opening 20' till near end. Margin was 14 at one stage. OSt built 19 pt margin in second half. Go 30x60fg, 9x22 3s but outreb 40-34. T. Downing 24 pts(7x16fg, 6x13 3s), 5 rebs, 5 assts, 2 stls; M. Jabbi 18 pts(8x15fg), 11 rebs; N. Perioli 14 pts, 12 assts in 40'; D. White 10 rebs; K. Reuter 13 pts. Mville's A. Olasokan 16 pts(6x11fg), 5 assts; D. Spencer 12 pts; W. Jackson 10 pts; T. Foster 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2008, 10:55:59 PM

  Plattsburgh up 43-33 over opening half. Lights it up overall in 33x59fg style, 11x21 3s, 21 assts. A. Williams 27 pts(10x20fg, 4x7 3s), 4 assts, 4pf in 35'; C. Ruiz 17 pts(4x6 3s) in 27'; A. Miller 12 pts(5x9fg); T. Gorham 10 pts, 10 rebs, 4 assts; K. Hunt 10 pts(5x7fg). Pdam26x69fg, 9x22 3s, 41-32 rebs. A. Dike 19 pts(7x15fg), 10 rebs; D. Taft 17 pts(6x10fg, 5x8 3s) in 24'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2008, 11:48:44 PM
Scootman

Sorry the Bears couldn't give you that big upset you were hoping for. The big upset was almost the Golden Eagles going down to SUNYIT. Actually it was an upset cause they didn't cover the spread(-16). The Bport team must have gotten sloppy after they grabbed that big lead. You need to talk to those guys. I really want them to run the table(except for the (hopefully) SUNYAC tourney championship game against the Cards). That would leave them with a 21-7 record and a fair chance to get into the NCAA's. I think they can do some damage in the tournament as they did last year when they got to the great eight. 

I'm slipping. Only got 5 out of 6 tonight with my picks. Knew I was in trouble with that Fredonia pick. Houghton is an NAIA team and I don't know didily about them.

Hamilton had a nice win tonight over Williams. That might hurt Bport.

Never would have picked RIT to beat Ithaca in Ithaca. Bomber fans aren't happy tonight. Lots of back and forth on the E8 board between Stevens, Ithaca and SJF fans.

UMASS-Dartmouth wins again to get to 18-0. Still think they have a soft schedule and would rather face them than UR in the NCAA's.

Just saw that Stevens lost to Baruch(9-12) 75-71 in OT. There goes their top 25 ranking!! They can't blame that loss on a long road trip.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 30, 2008, 08:19:31 AM
Magic-You are right the Eagles called the dogs off too early and survived a scare. They had 20 pt lead at the half and played lackadaisical(sp) the second half. They called the dogs off too early and SUNYIT started raining 3's. The score was 91-85 with 3 seconds and the big freshman kid that had 32 for IT threw in a half courter for final margin. B-Dubs had a poor game for the Eagles and that is unusual. Hope he comes back strong this weekend. Trip to Fredonia(2 hours) and then back to Buffalo St Saturday PM. Not easy trips! Buffalo St. and B-port not friendly rivalry. I remember the Carney cell phone incident at Buffalo--Always alot of talking between players!!! Good luck Eagles--By the way, I knew it was a longshot for the upset at Potsdam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 30, 2008, 09:36:23 AM
Sorry guys a little misinformation on this weekends trip.B-port goes from Fredonia to Buff St. not back home and on to Buff--My bad!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 30, 2008, 10:18:57 AM
Plattsburgh put on a shooting clinic last night against POtsdam - hitting something like 56% of their shots. Despite the hot shooting, POtsdam did tie the game with 6 minutes left in the 1st half and made a nice run with 4 or 5 minutes left in the game. However, every time Potsdam got close, Plattsburgh would hit the 3. Potsdam shot themselves in the foot as they missed 6 or 7 free throws in the last 5 minutes which could have cut the lead to under 5 on several occasions. Officiating: outstanding. Was the best officiated game that I have seen in a year or 2. Was refreshing to see that there are some good ones out there as Potsdam has gotten the bottom of the barrel these past few years. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 30, 2008, 11:25:49 AM
"...Was the best officiated game that I have seen in a year or 2...."

Maybe there could be a D3Hoops Referee rating service.  Have anyone who goes to the game rate each of the officials in say 5-7 different categories and overall rating.   :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 30, 2008, 11:42:54 AM
Can't say that I totally agree with BBM.  I thought once the game was out of hand, the refs let folks play.

First half, the fouls were lopsided, and several of the ones for Potsdam were of the ticky tack variety, given the war that was going on in the paint, were unneccessary.

Travis Gorham, who I think is a great player, picked up his first foul with 1 minute left in the game.  Given how rough the play was in the post, that's a bit of a joke.

Take nothing away from the Cards.  They are an excellent team, well coached, physical, and with unselfish players.  They can stop you on defense, and have the players to get points when they need them.  I wish them all the best in their drive to Salem.

The future looks bright for the 'burgh as well.  Ruiz & Daniyan are talented frosh, who will only get better.  RJ Ponesse is a 6-9 wide body, who sits because he plays behind an AA caliber center in Gorham,  Typically those folks are very good players by the time they crack the starting lineup, because they play against the best in practice every day.

Kudos as well to Bears' senior Devin Taft who got the stroke going last night with a 5-8 performance for beyond the arc, in several cases NBA range.

Cards are much the best team I've seen.  Don't know why the pollsters have Rochester ranked above them, considering the Cards beat U of R in Rochester last year.  Cards are better than last year, their bigs can play with Rochester's bigs, and I think Williams, Ruiz, & Miller are better athletes than U of R's guard trio.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FisherDynasty on January 30, 2008, 11:53:07 AM
Rochester is better.  There bigs are better, and guards besides the pg spot are better.  UofR plays better D, shoots the ball much better, and is more disciplined.  I'd take UofR by 8 anyday.  Last year UofR completely fell apart and blew a 16 pt lead. UofR is much improved from last year as well.  I don't like UofR but they should def be ranked higher then platts. at this point in time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jasper on January 30, 2008, 01:55:58 PM
I agree UofR would beat Plattsburgh easily. Lets be honest last year Plattsburgh beat them on a prayer. UofR is simply a better team overall and play in a much better league
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: airball55 on January 30, 2008, 03:58:28 PM
Best officiating??  I don't think either coach would agree with that, by the number of puzzled looks after whistles.  Heck, the Plattsburgh coach spent a whole TV timeout doing dance moves (of which he was correct) to show the stripes a couple of obvious travels they missed.  Other side, lots of reach ins where Potsdam was ready to move up court and got "stripped".  The outcome wasn't decided by the refs, but to give those guys (especially the grey haired guy) a grade of over a C would be an injustice.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on January 30, 2008, 04:03:15 PM
But they did beat them...  No preference either way here, just would enjoy the game between them if they do get to play somewhere down the line.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on January 30, 2008, 04:50:53 PM
 Seeing both teams play U of R bigs are definitly better than Cards bigs but I do think Williams would be the best guard on the floor.  I think U of R would win but it would be a very close game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 30, 2008, 09:05:03 PM
Most folks haven't seen Ruiz or Daniyan play, from what I saw last night, they will be A/C or better before they're done.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2008, 09:53:44 PM
thebear

Good to hear your comments on the Cards-Bears game last night. As always your observations are honest and to the point. It would seem like the cons outweigh the pros, regarding the officiating. One fellow must have been watching a different game.

And yes, the future looks good with those three freshman you mentioned. Ruiz and Daniyan are usually the first 2 guys off the bench and the strides they've made since the beginning of the year are amazing. Ruiz is a great shooter and plays hard end to end. He doesn't hesitate to take his shot and in the 6 games I've seen he's been instant offense as soon as he enters. Daniyan has been a force inside and while most of his scoring has been from in close he hasn't missed those opportunities when presented. Ponesse hasn't seen a lot of minutes but he's made some key contributions when called upon.

I think Plattsburgh should definitely be ranked higher than they are and if they continue to play well should crack the top ten by NCAA tourney time. The voters place a lot of emphasis on the UAA 's tough schedule, and I don't believe they'll climb above Rochester or Washington U. unless both these teams lose a few more games. It's looking good for Plattsburgh to host the SUNYAC tournament, something they have never done, and if they should be fortunate enough to win the championship, it sure would be nice to host an NCAA game, also something that's never happened here. (Are you listening NCAA)  It would be a 3rd consecutive SUNYAC championship and at some point they should get rewarded for that.

Having said that, I'm scared stiff of Brockport come SUNYAC tourney time. They will need that automatic bid more than Plattsburgh because I think we're looking pretty good even if we lose the crown. Bport on the other hand could get overlooked if they lose. They'll be hungrier, plus the revenge factor from their last 2 meetings will loom large. Just hope the Cardinals remain focused. 26-2 reg. season record just might get them the respect they deserve. And at least 16 of those games will have been on the road.

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BBM on January 31, 2008, 08:09:36 AM
Gentlemen: I took the tape of the Potsdam-Plattsburgh game and watched the entire first half in super slow-mo and watched several of the plays over and over. I will admit that there were 3 REALLY bad calls during the half, all against Potsdam. Graney was called for a block and he must have been set for about 3 seconds at the time. Reinhardt was called for an offensive foul on a putback and it was super obvious that if there was a foul (I didn't think so) it should have been called on the Plattsburgh player and a Plattsburgh guard penetrated the lane, took 5, possibly 6 dribbles, kicked the ball out for a 3 by his teammate. Those 3 calls led directly to 7 PLattsburgh points. I will also stand by my free throw statement: Potsdam was awful at the charity stipe going 6-12 in the 1st half. Hey, take those 7 points away from Plattsburgh, make another free throw or 2 and then you'll never know......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 31, 2008, 08:30:16 AM
A little bit of comparative scoring--Bport played both U of R and the Burg and lost by 5 at the U or R and 3 in OT at the Burg. The U of R loss was with some very questionable calls down the stretch (if you recall)--Who is better--I dont know--its a pick 'em--I am talking about U or R or The Burg--b-port still quality club
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 31, 2008, 08:52:40 AM
Some more comparative scoring:

After taking some time to find Plattsburgh in the Massey rankings (#41) and looking at their schedule:

Plattsburgh 74-69 over Cortland at home

UR 72-50 over Cortland at home

Comparative scoring doesn't mean diddley
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 31, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
Just another factor in the formula of "who is better." Anyway B-port vs U of R anybodies game, and not played at U of R outcome could have been different. Get that "too good for Div 3 official" off the game and outcome reversed, Jacketfan!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 31, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
Were you at the UR/Brockport game?  If so, it must have been apparent that the crowd was at least 60% for Brockport.  Some of the UR players commented after the game how bizzare it was to be at home and have the crowd rooting for the other team.  Especially in the "Hive" section which was populated by what appeared to be a good number of intoxicated Brockport students.  The mocking of the kid singing the national anthem was uncalled for and tasteless.  Anyway, there was zero homecourt advantage in either that game or the Naz game the next day.

And I'm not sure which official you are referring to, but I didn't think any were particularly good.  One was definetly playing for the camera.  If you still believe the disallowed 3 had any bearing on the game, then I disagree.  The whistle blew long (relatively) before the shot was tossed at the basket.  Even the NBA wouldn't have allowed it and wishing don't make it so.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2008, 11:08:40 AM
 Would love to see UR-Plattsburgh duel. Hope it happens.

 We'd like your chances, Jacketfan. And yes, both UR and the Burgh have handled Cortland. But at very different times. Very, very young Corts outfit fell in late November at UR in respectable tourney showing. Ten point game at half and still close till closing 5-10 minutes. Would like to think Cortland has closed the gap now. Gave Cards all they wanted recently in north country.

 But, yeah, difficult to gauge comparative scores, especially games at different stages of the season.

 And let's have neutral grounds for a UR-Cards match .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 31, 2008, 11:25:23 AM
Well, if we can qualify Cortland's performance at UR, then let's remember that UR was without Chmeilowiec their leading reeturning scorer and Juron (returning PG) was recovering from a knee injury and just beginning to work his way back into shape.

And I guess close is a relative term.  It was a 17 point game with 11 minutes left when Neer went "crazy" and subbed maybe a little too soon.  Cort cut it to 8 over the next minute and a half but UR got it back up to a 16 point lead in the next minute or so.

IU don't mean to imply a rematch with Brockport or a game with Plattsburgh would be easy.  I have discovered there really are no easy games (except Keuka  ;D).   I am a SUNY alumni and still have a daughter in the system.  Staunch supporter of all things SUNY.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2008, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Jacketfan2011 on January 31, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
If you still believe the disallowed 3 had any bearing on the game, then I disagree.  The whistle blew long (relatively) before the shot was tossed at the basket.  Even the NBA wouldn't have allowed it and wishing don't make it so.

You may be shouting into the wind on this. I was able to tell from 400 miles away on a tiny video screen that the shot was clearly launched after the whistle, but not one Brockport fan has managed to accept that fact.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 31, 2008, 02:04:36 PM
When it was launched was definitely not a question. The call was the question!!No one around me,  Uof R or Bport people had any idea why the whislte was blown. I was across the court from the call. Anyway it is over and hopefully they will meet again down the road if Bport can continue to improve and not shoot themselves in the foot. I hope their history will earn them some respect when NCAA bids are available. Of course they need to string a bunch of wins together too.

Secondly, can't argue the presentation of the anthem at all. It is classless and am full support of you. Sorry it happened.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 31, 2008, 02:43:20 PM
"... Especially in the "Hive" section which was populated by what appeared to be a good number of intoxicated Brockport students.  The mocking of the kid singing the national anthem was uncalled for and tasteless...."

Not all fans are tasteless and the SUNYAC doesn't have a monopoly on that trait or other obnoxious ones. Please, The  U of R nut jobs are just as rude and tasteless as any fans I have ever witnessed in 40 years of playing or watching.  This is a paraphrased chant by the highly sophisticated YellowJacket Bumblebee fans after their team lost the 15 point lead and THE GAME to Plattsburgh last year.
I quote... "That's all right, that's okay you all will work for US some day...".   Add to that, during most of the game these so-called inspired students made racial slurs toward Anthony W. and Travis G.  and Antwan. Loud enough to disturb the 50 or so Plattsburgh fans including some teens and tweens related to players and coaches.  When I have to lean over and tell some college kid to tone it down it has to be pretty bad. Even slurs against one of the referees.  I am SURE that alcohol and other drug related items are being consumed on the U of R campus also.   IT is very unfortunate that many people don't respect the country enough to take a few minutes to sing or be silent and respect those who died to keep them free and able to express their rudeness in public. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2008, 02:51:14 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 31, 2008, 02:04:36 PM
When it was launched was definitely not a question. The call was the question!!No one around me,  Uof R or Bport people had any idea why the whislte was blown. I was across the court from the call.

Well, I was 400 miles away from it and I had no doubt whatsoever it was blown.

BTW, the SUNYAC is on the front page, if anyone looks at that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 31, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
http://www.d3hoops.com/nation/

Take a look at the current d3hoops feature on Plattsburgh. 
For those who believe "THE SHOT" was a heave, go argue with the person who had one of the best views of the ACTUAL shot.  He saw what I saw.

I'm glad someone did a national article telling some of the story behind Travis and Anthony. They are class people and leaders in their own way.  I've seen what Anthony talks about in this article.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 31, 2008, 02:51:50 PM
Good, one person does. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on January 31, 2008, 02:52:36 PM
Yes Pat,  a truely great article.  Short and to the point.  Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on January 31, 2008, 03:00:11 PM
I really have no idea what you are talking about.  I said nothing about Plattsburgh, merely pointed out that the UR/Brockport game, while at UR was not a home environment.

I was at the UR/Plattsburgh game at SJF last year as well, sitting up behind the Plattsburgh bench.  Never heard a slur and frankly, it's hard top believe a racial slur would come from a UR fan given their adoration of Onyiriuka and Ndubizu.  If you had to tell a kid to quite down, well good for you.  Somebody has to be the grownup.

And maybe attending countless Colgate games has numbed me to the "...work for us someday" chant.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2008, 12:16:40 AM
Quote from Jacketfan2011 on Jan 21, 2008 12:36 pm
Regarding Anthony Williams buzzer beater vs. Rochester in last years NCAA game.

" And unless they moved the NBA three-point line back to a step inside halfcourt when I wasn't looking, it was a heave. An amazingly accurate one."
                             
Jacketfan,

Hope you caught that article describing "the shot" in the" Around the Nation" article this morning. Especially the 4 out of 5 during practice before the game from the same spot  and Coach Curle saying "it wasn't a heave, it was a jump shot. If you saw the form on the shot you would have thought it was a 15 footer".   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on February 01, 2008, 06:45:40 AM
Well, that changes everything.  Curious though.  Why did Coach Curle suggest AW stop horsing around and practice something that might have been pertinent to the game?  I mean really.  4 of 5 from the same spot as the winner?  Seems like he should have made it part of the game plan.  After all, most opposing coaches don't spend a lot of time in practice working on defending 40 foot jump shots. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on February 01, 2008, 08:33:19 AM
Scooter

I don't think anybody would look forward to playing Brockport from here on out.  They are a dangerous team that can beat anybody any time.  One of the freshmen guards is from my area and is a very good kid.  Class C Co-player of the year last year.  I imagine he is learning a thing or two from Harris this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 01, 2008, 08:49:34 AM
Jacket--Andy Foote? Very nice young man and hopefully will help the Eagles in the future. He has played some good minutes for them but too many players ahead of him right now. Hope he understands and continues to work hard.

What has happened to the Poles kid? His minutes just dont seem productive this season. Coach Dunne has given him the benefit of the doubt all season long but how much longer can he wait? Hope he recovers from whatever it is--Maybe this weekend on the western swing to Fredonia and Buff St. --Bring back Carney!!!Dont forget your cellphones, boys!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on February 01, 2008, 08:51:17 AM
Yep.  Andy is a fine young gentleman.  From what I know of him, hard work will be no problem. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2008, 07:43:46 PM
Some important games around the state tonight,in all 3 leagues. 

SUNYAC

Brockport @ Fredonia         Golden Eagles 79-67

Plattsburgh @ Oneonta      Cards must stay focused win 84-75

Potsdam @ New Paltz         Battle for a playoff spot.  Bears 81-77

Geneso@ Buff. St.               Battle for 3rd in the West.  Geneseo 74-70


Empire 8

St John Fisher @ Elmira       SJF wins 1st road game 74-61

Nazareth @ Stevens            Revenge time & 1st place too Naz 78-76

Hartwick @ Utica                  Must win for Utica  64-55


Liberty League

St. Lawrence @ Hamilton     Both teams on a roll but Hamilton at home 69-67




Huge game in Rochester with Washington U. in town. Winner gets leg up in conference and National rankungs. UR wins this battle 76-70
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 01, 2008, 08:40:27 PM
Halftime   Cards 35  Oneonta 24   

WEB CAST in progress from the Oneonta State website.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 01, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
13:47 to go   PBurgh 46 to 30 
8:30 to go Pburgh up by 21
6:44 to go Pburgh   59 to 40.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 01, 2008, 09:16:14 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on February 01, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
13:47 to go   PBurgh 46 to 30 
8:30 to go Pburgh up by 21
6:44 to go Pburgh   59 to 40.
3:20 to go PBurgh 63  to 47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 01, 2008, 09:19:04 PM
65 - 47   after Technical to Grimes of Oneonta 2:16 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 01, 2008, 09:29:38 PM
Final score  Plattsburgh Cardinals go to 10-0 in SUNYAC

70-56 over Oneonta.    Williams with 22, Hunt with 14 or 15, Gorham 12,,,   

On to New Paltz

FYI  tomorrow afternoon Oneonta game vs Potsdam is also going to be web-casted off of the Oneonta site
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2008, 09:46:53 PM
Cards7580


Good job with the updates. I've only got dial up and have a hard time pulling in those webcasts. High speed service not available in lots of areas surrounding Plattsburgh. But the college is getting grants to try and solve that problem.

Cards have now won 14 conference games in a row dating back to last season. Don't think too many teams can match that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 01, 2008, 10:02:32 PM
Actually, my Bears in '85-87 went undefeated in conference play for two consecutive seasons as part of their 60 game streak. 

I think it was 23 or 24 straight regular season, and 6 in the playoffs.  The Cards have a ways to go before they get into matching streaks.

Nice win for Plattsburgh, Oneonta is always a tough place to play, being an arena setting rather than a traditional gym.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 01, 2008, 10:11:36 PM

Oswego at SUNYIT, ppd.
Cortland 70, Morrisville 63
Brockport 65, Fredonia 50
Geneseo 75, Buffalo St. 73
Potsdam 77, New Paltz 54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 01, 2008, 10:28:18 PM

  Cortland gets past Mville despite shaky 9x34fg first half (Mville 8x38 in same span). Dragons 24-21 at half and finish 23x58fg, 48-42reb to Stangs 23x72fg, 10x28 3s. M. Lewis paces CSt with 22 pts(7x13fg), 12 reb in 25'; C. Niehoff 18 pts(6x11fg, 3x5 3s), 10 reb in 30'; W. Coston 12 pts(4x9fg) in 25'; D. Fish 12 assts in 26'. W. Jackson leads Mville with 17 pts(6x15fg), 5 assts; T. Foster 12 pts, 4 assts; D. Spencer 10 pts; J. McCants 9 rebs

  Brockport pulls away over final 7'. Leads 33-25 at half. Bport 21x47fg, 18x22ft. S. Harris 20 pts(5x9fg, 3x5 3s), 5 assts, 2 stls, 7x8ft; D. Maldonado 10 pts(4x9fg, 2x7 3s) in 19'. Freds 19x47fg, 10x27ft. R. Buckmon 12 pts(4x6fg, 2x4 3s); J. Bruant 10 pts(5x8fg), 6 rebs

  Geneseo by 38-34 at the break and sees BS take 55-53 lead before reversal. Gens 27x54fg, 18x30ft. S. Morton 39 pts(15x20fg, 3x4 3s); J. Howe 11 pts, 9 rebs; T. Kitson 10 pts, 9 rebs; J. Kling 4 assts. BS 26x61fg, 13x24ft, 8x17 3s. N. Wilkins 20 pts(7x10fg, 6x8 3s); J. Gray 17 pts; G. Carr 10 pts; D. Mozelle 9 rebs

  Plattsburgh in control at Oneonta. Has 35-24 edge at intermission and in 21 pt second half whiz. Cards 28x61fg. A. Williams 22 pts(7x22fg, 4x12 3s); K. Hunt 14 pts(6x8fg), 10 rebs; T. Gorham 14 pts(6x8fg); A. Miller 6 assts. Dragons 23x58fg. R. Fisk 14 pts(6x15fg, 2x9 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 01, 2008, 10:37:56 PM

   Potsdam pulls away from 30-29 lead at half. In front 41-36 at 16', then take off. Bears 30x67fg, 8x15 3s, 9x12ft, 39-33reb. D. Brown 21 pts(7x11fg, 3x4 3s), 3 assts, 2 stls in 26'; A. Dike 13 pts(6x11fg, 9 rebs; S. Clement 12 pts(4x4 3s), 3 stls in 15'. NP V. Alvarez 13 pts(3 3s), K. Nelson 11 pts; L. Bertram 7 rebs. Hawks 18x44fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2008, 10:47:12 PM
thebear

I knew that!! I saw a lot of those games. I was refering to D3 teams this year that have won their last 14 conference games.
 

Good win for the Bears tonight in New Paltz. Certainly want them to grab that 4th seed.

Isn't that 60 game undefeated streak by Potsdam the longest or 2nd longest of all time? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 01, 2008, 11:10:19 PM
Just back from New Paltz.  The Bears have  much talent that will be back next year.  They will be near the top.  If they keep their heads and play smart, could make a run in the playoffs.  The game was never really close.  New Paltz got hot late in the first half on some nice shooting.  Potsdam took control in the second half.  They played the bench the last 5-6 minutes.
May have to drive out to Oneonta tomorrow!
Or go see if Plattsburgh is for real. The adminstration  at Plattsburgh should take notes on the New Gym at New Paltz tomorrow.  I really enjoy when the Plattsburgh fans tell us how great their gym from the turn of the century is!  I've seen class D high school gyms better then the one they have.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 02, 2008, 12:06:52 AM
I'd rather be 15-2 in "old" Memorial gym, than have a 3000 seat arena and be 2-15.

When the state decides to build a "new" facility (not the A.D.) at Plattsburgh or replace the rubber floor at the field house with a soild wood floor, then maybe you'll get your wish.    Have you ever been to St John Fishers gym ? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 02, 2008, 12:34:45 AM
Hey the gym at New Paltz is going to be great to bring recruits into. Give New Paltz a year or two to get things going they have a head coach that works his but off.  He is going to get it done there. And their is no reason to give a negative shot at new paltz.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2008, 04:45:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 01, 2008, 10:47:12 PM
thebear

Isn't that 60 game undefeated streak by Potsdam the longest or 2nd longest of all time? 


Longest in D-III, second only to UCLA (88 games)

Good to get a W, been a while.  Be nice to get two road wins. 

Haven't done the math, but think Coach Dobbs and the Bears would rather have a 3 seed (Cortland) than a four (Cards). 

A win at Oneonta would really tighten up the battle for the 3-4 seeds, since the two teams have basically identical schedules left.

As for Memorial Hall, the center of campus location cetainly makes it attractive for getting people to the games.

Competitive basketball isn't made to be played on rubber floors, especially 35 year old rubber floors.  Surprised there isn't a major product liability scandal with the number of ACL's that happen on rubber floors, especially amongst the women players.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 02, 2008, 07:25:57 AM
Some rough math just based on some quick facts! Check me if I'm wrong

Potsdam lost to Buffalo State in the SUNYAC championship games of 84-85.         84-85 National runner up lost to North Park by 1.
Went 32-0 85-86 18-0 SUNYAC National Champion!!!
Went 28-1 86-87 17-0 SUNYAC Didn't play second Albany game (measles on Albany Campus, Doc Sauers was not a happy camper, he wanted Albany to end both streaks) 60 straight wins second to UCLA (88)
87-88 had graduated but I believe they didn't lose until the second semester.
I say around 40+ games straight.  Looks like Plattsburgh has a ways to go.

Good Luck!

By the way New Paltz is 6-12. I agree they will win recruits with the new diggs.

Hoping for 2 upsets this weekend New Paltz beats Plattsburgh and the Giants beat the Patriots.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2008, 08:52:21 AM
I think the number is 44, but I'll check.  It's on my portable hard disk, which isn't hooked up at the moment.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 02, 2008, 10:34:14 AM
I seriously doubt that Good players make a decision to go to a school because of a gym.
St John Fisher, U of R and even Plattsburgh don't get the talent they get based on their facility.
The Palestra at U of R has been there for more than 50 years. The U of R (private college ) has 
multi-millions of dollars and hasn't built a new arena despite its basketball programs (mens and womens)
success.

No recruit I ever talked to when giving tours around campus at Plattsburgh ever made a
decision about coming to Plattsburgh because of the field house or Memorial hall.  One would
hope their decisions were based on educational needs, style of play, coach and reputation.

Back in the mid-70's Oneonta "did" play in a high school-like gym and had extremely successful teams.
Now they play in the beautiful new arena and are mid-pack SUNYAC at best.  And they used to fill
that little old gym.  I saw the web-cast of the PBurgh v Oneonta game last night and the place looked
empty.

As far as giving a "negative shot" at New Paltz, the shot was generic to any less successful teams playing
in hugh new facilities. New Paltz has won more than 2 games and it's not because of a new place to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: unbearable on February 02, 2008, 11:50:46 AM
Regarding Potsdam's SUNYAC win streak (including SUNYAC playoff games)
35-0 from 85-87 plus

1987-88 -  3 SUNYAC wins before break.  Loss at Scranton.  1st home loss was during winter break in an empty gym at Maxcy to University of Buffalo, 75-70.  This ended a home-court winning streak that was (I think) 57 in a row, including league, non-league, and playoff games.  However, I'm pretty sure that they were out of DIII and out of SUNYAC at that point.  My recollection was that they left SUNYAC a few years before Albany and Binghamton did, as the university centers began their ascent to DI.

Then, 10 more SUNYAC wins in a row.  So, if UB doesn't count, my guess is 48 SUNYAC wins in a row.

For true basketball junkies, at Utica Tech (now SUNYIT) sometime in mid-January, we were down 17 with 1:46 to go and won by one point.  It still remains, in my opinion, as the greatest basketball comeback at any level of play.

A few years ago, my brother, who lives in State College, PA, called me to tell me he met an ex-Utica Tech player who was on the losing side in that game.  That player (Rudy something?) now coaches school ball in central PA, and still uses that game as an example as why it is important to never give up.

The streak ended on the last weekend of the '87-'88 regular season.  We lost to New Paltz on the Friday night before the big game at UAlbany.  A good lesson in why its important to not look ahead.  Still beat Albany 70-68 the next night.  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 02, 2008, 12:10:45 PM
Cards7580,
your 100% right you need more than just a nice gym to get recruits.  You need to be able to sell your school as a whole like you said.  But when your academics are just as good if not better it all helps.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2008, 12:55:29 PM
unbearable - I'll check the bball yearbooks in my library, and get an exact determination.

Quote from: unbearable on February 02, 2008, 11:50:46 AM

For true basketball junkies, at Utica Tech (now SUNYIT) sometime in mid-January, we were down 17 with 1:46 to go and won by one point.  It still remains, in my opinion, as the greatest basketball comeback at any level of play.

A few years ago, my brother, who lives in State College, PA, called me to tell me he met an ex-Utica Tech player who was on the losing side in that game.  That player (Rudy something?) now coaches school ball in central PA, and still uses that game as an example as why it is important to never give up.


Yeah - that's a legendary comeback.  What's amazing is that the SUNYIT coach never called a time out during that stretch.  Think "Havlicek stole the ball" to the 6th power.  Of course, Steve Babiarz was playing in front of the hometown crowd, and wouldn't think about losing.

I remember the 88 game against Albany.  The whole Albany football team sat behind the Potsdam bench, making so much noise it was impossible to hear.  So Jerry Welsh had his players move their chairs out to the paint opposite his bench during the time outs so he could be heard.  My wife, who's a good sport, and one of Jerry's favorite people, couldn't stand it, she left midway through the first half & went to Crossgates to shop and see a movie, picked me up after the game!


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 02, 2008, 01:08:26 PM
It also is very helpful to recruiting when a college will admit anyone.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 02, 2008, 02:38:14 PM
"...It also is very helpful to recruiting when a college will admit anyone...."

Please ...   You must be too young to remember Pop's McTaw at Brockport some of the
other questionable students who were there under Coach Panaiggio.

It's amazing that ALL the colleges want or wanted the "dummies" you have referring to
in previous posts about the same subject. By the way, how do YOU know what their GPA's
are in High School or College ?  Please refrain from making idiotic comments about who IS
and who ISN'T a qualified college student academically without knowing the TRUE facts
about their situations and providing proof that you even know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2008, 05:07:30 PM
Halftime - Potsdam 36 Oneonta 20.

Bears are pressing & running - best I've seen them play since early in the season.

However, no lead is safe on the road in the SUNYAC.

Dragons & Bears are scrapping for the 3&4 seeds in the East.

Thanks to Oneonta - webcast is great.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2008, 06:04:37 PM
Bears win 62-59.

Oneonta ties at 59 with 2.7 secs.

Bears throw the home run, and Damon Brown makes a contested 21 footer at the buzzer for the victory.

Missing some fingernails





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2008, 06:47:31 PM

  theBear dramatics have nothing on Morrisville at SUNYIT ...........Mville 89, IT 88 likewise decided at 0:00 on FOUR FREE THROWS by D. Spencer. He made one --- the gamewinner. IT leads almost wire-to-wire, 50-40 at half and comfortable most of final period until late. Stangs T. Foster provides first lead with hoop at 0:20. IT's M. Haynesworth deuce ties 88-88 at 0:13. Spencer fouled on trey bid at buzzer. IT also hit with `T'. Foster finishes with 26 pts(8x13fg, 9x11ft), 8 rebs, 4 assts in 27'; Spencer 19 pts(11x16ft); W. Jackson 18 pts; A. Olasokan 11 pts. Mville 27x63fg, 15x41ft. IT's D. Golembiowski 36 pts(13x23fg, 4x13 3s), 7 rebs; A. Edwards 8 assts, 9 rebs, 5pf; D. Moore 14 pts, 12 rebs; D. Hahn 12 pts; L-K Miller 10 pts, 5pf. This a night after Mville had Cortland on the ropes late before falling

   Brockport 72, Buffalo St. 62. Port 30-29 at half, widen lead but see BS within three at 3:11. Eagles 24x68fg, 20x27ft. B. Williams 18 pts(7x12fg), 15 rebs, 4 assts, 5 stls; Sherod Harris 14 pts(3x11fg) in 37'; C. Parrish 10 pts. BS 21x50fg, 33 trnvrs. J. Tyndal 21 pts(6x10fg, 8x8ft); J. Gray 12 pts(5x15fg), 3 stls; D. Mozelle 8 pts(3x4 3s), tf in 19'

   Plattsburgh stops New Paltz 78-65. . Cards 46-37 at half and 62-43 at one stage in final half. Burgh 31x67fg. A. Williams 32 pts(12x22fg, 5x7 3s) in 32'; T. Gorham 13 pts(6x13fg), 14 rebs; K. Hunt 11 pts, 13 rebs; A. Miller 4 assts. NP 24x58fg. K. Nelson 15 pts, 14 rebs, 4 assts; M. Hauser 12 pts, 4 assts; L. Bertram 12 pts; V. Alvarez 10 pts.

   Potsdam 36-20 at half. Goes 23x52fg. D. Brown 16 pts(6x11fg, 2x3 3s); B. Graney 13 pts(6x9fg), 6 rebs; A. Dike 8 rebs, 7 pts; T. Reinhardt 10 pts(3x5fg), 4pf in 29'. OSt 7x26fg first half, 17x53 ovl, 18x23ft. R. Fisk 16 pts(4x9fg, 4x7 3s); M. Grimes 16 pts(6x12fg), 12 rebs; E. Arrington 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2008, 06:49:26 PM

  Tonight: Oswego at Cortland, Geneseo at Fredonia
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2008, 07:29:24 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 02, 2008, 04:45:07 AM

Haven't done the math, but think Coach Dobbs and the Bears would rather have a 3 seed (Cortland) than a four (Cards). 



thebear
I agree Coach Dobbs would rather have the 3 seed than a 4 and after that nail biter today in Oneonta its certainly a possibility. 
I assume you mean who they would be playing in the 1st round of the playoffs(Cortland or the Cards). But I thought that #1 in the West played #4 in the East, #2 in the West played #3 in the East and so on. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And if it is the West it's probably Borckport if you're the 4 or Oswego if you're the 3.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 02, 2008, 08:20:29 PM
Wrong they take the top 4 from the west and top 4 from the east. After that they seed them based on there record and its 1 vs 8  2 vs 7 3 vs 6  and 4 vs 5. So someone with a better record in one division might not make the tourney over someone with a worst record. Top 4 in each division regardless of record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2008, 09:58:59 PM


    Oswego 77, Cortland 74

    Geneseo trims Fredonia 64-53. Freds hold first half lead till S. Morton connects for 31-30 Knights edge heading to half. Never fall behind beyond that. Morton 17 pts(7x14fg), 5 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls; J. Howe 16 pts(7x8fg), 7 rebs; T. Kitson 10 pts(2x3fg, 6x6ft), 4pf in 20'. Gens 22x40fg, 19x24ft. Devils 20x50fg, 8x11ft. B. Cooper 22 pts(8x16fg, 3x7 3s); J. Kane 12 pts, 9 rebs; R. Buckmon 10 pts(4x8fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2008, 11:10:06 PM
bports


Thanks. I knew it was top 4 in each division. Just didn't know they re-seeded them based on records.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2008, 11:14:06 PM
   Oswego's M. Jabbi makes it a day for last second -- in this case 1.8, heroics. Takes court-length pass from D. White and hits `3' to sink Cortland. Lakers midway 37-35 leaders. Hit 27x57fg, 12x24 3s, 11x13ft. T. Downing 27 pts(9x18fg, 6x10 3s); Jabbi 23 pts(9x17fg, 1x2 3s), 11 rebs; K. Reuter 12 pts; N. Perioli 11 pts; D. White 4 assts. Corts 31x57fg, 3x5 3s, 9x12ft. P. Oliver 19 pts(9x15fg), 10 rebs in 30'; M. Lewis 18 pts(8x15fg), 6 rebs in 29'; C. Niehoff 14 pts(5x7fg, 2x2 3s), 3 assts; W. Coston 4 pts(0x3fg), 30'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 03, 2008, 01:03:25 AM
"...Competitive basketball isn't made to be played on rubber floors, especially 35 year old rubber floors.  Surprised there isn't a major product liability scandal with the number of ACL's that happen on rubber floors, especially amongst the women players...."

The rubber floor at the Plattsburgh field house was bad in 1974 when I visited it with my dad. He wanted to see the hockey area (Cornell 1950 Lacrosse and Hockey player).  So after we looked at the co-eds playing broom ball we stepped down to the field house/track portion.  The team was practicing, all kinds of nets hanging from the ceiling to keep errant balls from rolling far away.  When we walked on the actual rubber surface you could see the rolling bubbles in it.  I didn't see the actual basketball court part of it until the next year 1975-76 season.  I went to all the games and did stats.  During one game that season Larry Parker almost broke his ankle when he tripped over a bubble that magically appeared during a game against Southhampton College (Div II).  He missed most of that game and the whole game the following week.  That was the last straw and all of the rest of the home games were moved to Memorial Hall since that day. Even during intramural games you could tamp down one bubble and another one would pop up somewhere else.    The other very annoying factor about playing in that field house section is the noise from all the ventilation systems.  The engineer who designed the facility thought it would be a good idea to put all of those components out of the "weather".  So even during concerts you could hear the roar of fans blowing the air around.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2008, 02:55:58 AM
And for all you "older" basketball junkies. In Feb. 1966 the final game of the regular season Potsdam came back from down 8 with 52 seconds left  to beat Plattsburgh in Plattsburgh to win the Conference championship, and gain the post season bid. No conference tournament back then. George Brown was Potsdam's star and future T.V. personality Tom Chapin (Harry's brother) was Plattsburgh's big man. Believe it was Frosh Joe Topa who hit the game winner at the buzzer for the Bears. No 3 point shot or 35 second clock back then either. Aah!! The good old days.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 03, 2008, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 02, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
Hey Cards--fact of the matter is speaking currently-- xxxxxx were denied admittance at Bport and the rest is history--Last 5 years my man

There are no facts here. You'd have to be in the admissions department at Brockport to have that kind of information, AND you'd be violating the law, pretty sure, by revealing it here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2008, 12:35:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 03, 2008, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 02, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
Hey Cards--fact of the matter is speaking currently-- xxxxxx were denied admittance at Bport and the rest is history--Last 5 years my man

There are no facts here. You'd have to be in the admissions department at Brockport to have that kind of information, AND you'd be violating the law, pretty sure, by revealing it here.

Pat

Thank you for clearing  that up. Plattsburgh State was recently and previously noted in a very reputable publication (whose name escapes me at the moment) as being one of the top 100 colleges academically, in the country, to attend. They don't lower their admission standards for athletes. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 04, 2008, 01:29:56 AM
Plattsburgh Coach Tom Curle interview

http://www.d3hoops.com/audio/08/hoopsville020308b.mp3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 04, 2008, 09:17:20 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2008, 12:35:22 AM
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Thank you for clearing  that up. Plattsburgh State was recently and previously noted in a very reputable publication (whose name escapes me at the moment) as being one of the top 100 colleges academically, in the country, to attend. They don't lower their admission standards for athletes. 

Actually it was the 100 best values in Higher Education.  Still prestigious, but more a combination of costs paired with academics.

Working at a college I can tell you:

Exceptions are made, athletes, musicians, dancers, children of prominent alumni or friends of the college, members of underrepresented groups, all can (& do) get special handling.  It varies from school to school, but exceptions are made, everywhere, even the elite private schools in the NESCAC & UAA.

My experience is a lot of the "such & so" couldn't get in here is to some extent "folklore".  In many cases the individual in question didn't even apply, or if they did, didn't do a great job on the application.  Even when a person gets in a one place and not another, they still have to go to class and do the work to remain eligible. 

Keeping players eligible is just another burden that falls on the coaching staff, not to mention that players who have trouble in the classroom, often have trouble with the nuances of the college game, like who to guard, and what to do in a fraction of a second.

All this being said, transfers are much easier to get into school, in general, a transfer with a 2.0 from an accredited institution can usually be admitted almost anywhere.  That lowers the bar somewhat and is why certain players wind up in places where the question "how did he ever get in there?" follows.

Give Coach Curle credit where credit is due.  He has turned the Cards into one of the elite programs in the East, has done it by starting with juco transfers and people who didn't succeed at other higher level  programs, is now enrolling elite freshman, and has his program poised to break into the top ranks. 

Rare but key SUNYAC vs. NESCAC matchup tomorrow night when the Cards face Middlebury,  that will complete a lot of cross tabulations for the various pollsters out there.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 04, 2008, 09:42:00 AM
It is widely known that most of the SUNYAC will admit transfers at a lower GPA than what they normally except. And yes, that is true for Geneseo also. A kid I went to high school with had a 2.3 while at a community college and was admitted into Geneseo about 10 years ago. Things might have changed but schools are using those transfers to fill spots for students that have left.

Some of the SUNYAC will accept students with under a 2.0 GPA at a junior/community college.  2.0 is usually the standard for letting transfers in for admission.

I also know that at Buff St. has a day during the summer where as long as you bring in your proof of a high school diploma or GED you can enroll in classes right then and there. Not sure how the coaching staff for the Bengals uses that for their advantage but they certainly should.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 04, 2008, 02:39:05 PM
Whitmore use to complain that alot of the kids he recruited couldnt get into school at Bport but would end up at plattsburgh. When Bport went to a level 2 suny school about 5 years ago it made it alot tougher for whitmore and he was always fighting it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WICB Sports on February 04, 2008, 03:28:15 PM
Coverage of Bombers basketball begins Tuesday at 5:40 p.m. Eastern time with Bombers Shootaround on 92 WICB (www.wicb.org).  Coverage of the women's contest between the Bombers and Oneonta tips off at 6 p.m., with Michael Polak and Matt McLaughlin with the call.

At 7:40 p.m., pregame coverage of the men's game begins on vicradio.org.  At 8 p.m., Nate March and Andrew Sidney have the call from the Ben Light Gymnasium on vicradio.org.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 04, 2008, 03:38:50 PM
When you take a job at a university you should know what the requirements are when you take the job.  You can't take a job and then complain you cant get kids into school.  It is then your job to recruit kids who have the requirements and are good enough to play basketball.  I am not saying this is what happend to  Whitmore but it is what it is.  I say congratulations to the guy who has an easy job getting kids in.  That would be the next job I would apply to when it opens up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 04, 2008, 06:44:13 PM
Like i said bport changed there requirements around 5 years ago .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2008, 07:03:07 PM
I find it amusing and/or sad that so many of the posts talking about academic standards have misspellings.  :-\
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 04, 2008, 07:22:11 PM
Yeah- but not everyone these days is a working journalist or had spelling & punctuation drilled (literally & figuratively) into them by Sr. Mary St. XXXXX at an early age.  (I still have scars on my hands from the thin side of the metal ruler.)

I tell my students that spelling & punctuation count, even in businesses classes, but the discipline just isn't there any more.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 04, 2008, 08:02:13 PM
Sorry, I don't usually check my work when I write something on the D3Hoops website.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2008, 11:08:00 PM
I wasn't referring to your post, actually. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 04, 2008, 11:24:41 PM
"...Exceptions are made, athletes, musicians, dancers, children of prominent alumni or friends of the college, members of underrepresented groups, all can (& do) get special handling.  It varies from school to school, but exceptions are made, everywhere, even the elite private schools in the NESCAC & UAA...."

thebear is correct. I would also bet that many colleges who are being mentioned on these boards are involved significantly with the practice.

"...My experience is a lot of the "such & so" couldn't get in here is to some extent "folklore".  In many cases the individual in question didn't even apply, or if they did, didn't do a great job on the application.  Even when a person gets in a one place and not another, they still have to go to class and do the work to remain eligible..."

thebear is correct again and in the most recent incident that spurred this discussion is dead on.  Just because a coach whines about not getting someone in because of no making requirements DOES NOT make it so. Players have to apply in order to be denied.

"...Keeping players eligible is just another burden that falls on the coaching staff, not to mention that players who have trouble in the classroom, often have trouble with the nuances of the college game, like who to guard, and what to do in a fraction of a second..."

The graduation rate of Plattsburgh basketball is 2nd to none.

"...All this being said, transfers are much easier to get into school, in general, a transfer with a 2.0 from an accredited institution can usually be admitted almost anywhere.  That lowers the bar somewhat and is why certain players wind up in places where the question "how did he ever get in there?" follows..."

I'm more interested in what someone does once they are in. What is the outcome. Did they graduate. Did they use the opportunity to do more than play a sport.

"...Give Coach Curle credit where credit is due.  He has turned the Cards into one of the elite programs in the East, has done it by starting with juco transfers and people who didn't succeed at other higher level  programs, is now enrolling elite freshman, and has his program poised to break into the top ranks.  ..."

Not sure who you are referring to. If you read the story D3hoops did about the current Plattsburgh team neither player "failed" at a higher division, but left under pressure from personal matters.  Tom Curle "gets the players" because he is a winner where ever he has coached. He is a great motivator. He knows the game of coaching from may different perspectives.  As a former player, as an assistant, as a coach at three different levels of competition.  He is great with/to his players.  Fair but firm.  He is good with the media, and an excellent example of a leader.   He responds to alumni and promotes positive relationships with former players from all seasons of Plattsburgh basketball.   If my son had lived and could play hoops, he would be at Plattsburgh even if it was to sit on the bench. He has brought a whole new attitude to the program.  If you listen to the Feb 3, Hoopsville interview with him, you can understand his sense of history of the game, his humility, his concern for his players and his perspective and respect for the other SUNYAC programs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 12:43:22 AM
Quote from: Cards7580 on February 04, 2008, 11:24:41 PM
The graduation rate of Plattsburgh basketball is 2nd to none.

Really, No. 1 in all of Division III? Do you have those rankings?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 12:53:12 AM
"...The graduation rate of Plattsburgh basketball is 2nd to none.

Really, No. 1 in all of Division III? Do you have those rankings?..."

OKAY OKAY this statement is an opinion from me. 
The phrase "2nd to none" is an expression and in most cases is not taken literally.
I would however say that in five years to only have two players not get 4 year degrees
ranks pretty high.  Do I have the actual Division III "official rankings" from the NCAA or
whatever organization keeps track of such things?  NO I do not.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 01:26:16 AM
Well, in a conversation where we're taking so many things literally about who applied where and such, I figured we were still being literal. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 01:29:56 AM
Maybe D3Hoops should consider adding it as a Top 25 ranking to complete it's "full" coverage of Division III sports.
;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 05, 2008, 01:49:44 AM
I would be very surprised if the NESCAC schools aren't in the 90's and have been there for a while.

I have a close friend who is a dean at MIT, and he says their attitude is "if we accept them, we are responsible to see that they graduate".  Since the grad rate at MIT (a D-III school) is 92%, with all due respect to my sibling institution in Plattsburgh, don't think we're in that class.

My son went to Geneseo, and their grad rate is stratospheric for a public institution, (6 year grad rate - 78%), they were #1 nationally in the rankings cited by magicman.  I think they graduate a pretty high % of their student athletes.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 05, 2008, 08:28:10 AM
Wow--My comments really instigated a great discussion!!  I would be very interested to know the top 5 schools with the highest graduation rates. Aren't many leagues formed because they have the same educational philosphies and treat athletics similiarly?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 05, 2008, 06:49:16 PM
Its fun to start a great debate.

The reason I brought up the size of Memorial Hall is because unless something dramatic happens.  The SUNYAC title will go thru Plattsburgh.  For many years the great debate was should the SUNYAC title be played in Utica.   
Besides Plattsburgh is anyone going to be happy playing in place that maybe holds 1000 people.  I believe Plattsburgh has about 6000 students.  When they play hockey in an arena that hold over 3000, its a full house.  Then again they are really a hockey school. Otherwise someone would made an update years ago.
I can't remember who said it but one of the Plattsburgh fans posted that they only played 9 home games.  Its mostly likely do to the size and location of the gym and school.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 05, 2008, 07:38:39 PM
Honestly--If Plattsburg hosts which probably will happen--Only the real diehard fans from Bport or any other school from the western conference will show. I will listen to the radio, but I consider myself a real fan. Its just to far!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 07:51:22 PM
"... Its mostly likely do to the size and location of the gym and school. ..."

Size of Gym determines who wants to play on your schedule ?   
Location of gym determines who wants to play on your schedule?  ???

This is not Division I.  When the Cards used to play University of Vermont we went THERE because
supposedly they would draw more people.  Actually the didn't draw that much more than we did
for our home games, but they did charge more for admission.  The gate was split.  If these two reasons
were even options to determine where to play, St John Fisher would not have any home games.  Mike Neer the coach at U of R made a statement today in a radio interview, that he can't understand why U of R hasn't been
selected as an NCAA 1st of 2nd round host site.  "I would like that advantage" was his reason. 

I remember the Lyndon St gym, Fitchburg st and Norwich Academy facilities.  Two were really high school gyms
with poor lights and the Norwich military facility was built back in George Washington time  ;)
They used to claim that the visitors locker room window was broken and could not be shut completely. They had a pile of towels keeping the blowing snow out but not the cold.  And the showers were across the hall which lead directly out the door to the arctic air.  Inside the court was a decent size, but not very wide. There was an upper deck track running around the building. Alot of the cadets used to hang over the railing in uniform which was an imposing image.  Luckily they were not always very good.  But one thing they always did was hustle and play hard for the entire game. 


Location of SCHOOL, yes.    Quality of the team, for sure.
That's probably a good reason. More likely its got to do with coaches not wanting to travel to the
North Country and get beat and then hope the return trip isn't snow, fog, rain or whatever other
bad weather in brewing in the  mountains.  Back in the day, when NY Tech and Hartwick (Division II)
used to be on the Cards schedule I believe they wanted more than ONE game for the weekend. 
I think St Lawrence volunteered one year.   I know Union used to try to get a game for Joe Cardany
from Plattsburgh to play at least once during his time there.   And RPI was up there and we went
to their place in alternating years.  I believe Middlebury, St. Lawrence, and Clarkson deals  are always
home and home in alternating seasons.   The men's team doesn't host a tournament. This year they
went to three.  So that's 6 away games.   6 + 8 SUNYAC away games  = 14 away  +
Clarkson + Middlebury = 16 away. 9 home for 25 total.  Not much room left in a schedule for more home games.

As far as the field house goes for Hockey. Things haven't changed much there since 1980 either. I think there are plans to revamp the seats and make "luxury boxes" of some sort for contributors.  They also are going to create a viewing area over the one end where you come into the arena.

The last update that Memorial hall got was a new floor, new bleachers (cutting capacity from 1500 to 1200) and some new padding on the walls.  The capacity cut was due to the creation of another fire exit at the opposite end of the gym from the main doors and across the gym from the team benches.  I haven't been to a game since 1996 so I am really exercising my memory.  I believe they also repainted the center circle and out of bounds areas.   The real advantage in memorial was taken away when the dead spots in the floor were fixed.  There were at least three spots that OUR guards would steer clear of and they would make the opponents dribble toward.  I remember one game when during a trapping press, (I think it was Cortland), our guards forced their guard to one of the spots just over the half line.  He took two dribbles and was breaking out of the trap, UNTIL  that third dribble went down BUT only rebounded up about 1 foot.   Most other teams seem to know about the spots, and I know Ed Jackim of Potsdam used to walk the floor and find them all.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 07:55:23 PM
"...Its just to far!!..."

Why is it that everyone from Exit 39 of the Thruway WEST think it is too far to travel to Plattsburgh for them or their team, but barely ever consider the length of the SAME trips in reverse for either Potsdam or Plattsburgh ?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 08:06:06 PM
Not a good start for Plattsburgh so far tonight:

http://cat.middlebury.edu/~sports/livestats/basketball/xlive.htm

Triple whammy -- 4-for-22 from the floor, outrebounded 17-13 and 10 turnovers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 08:08:39 PM
"...I have a close friend who is a dean at MIT, and he says their attitude is "if we accept them, we are responsible to see that they graduate".  Since the grad rate at MIT (a D-III school) is 92%, with all due respect to my sibling institution in Plattsburgh, don't think we're in that class...."

I was refering to athletic graduation rates not general student graduation rates.  Having met many MIT, Ivy league and sub-ivy graduates, I think most of the SUNY schools can offer a fairly good education for alot less of the cost.
The two big aspect the SUNY system lacks is the HYPE and alumni donor base.   I know PHD professors at large midwest colleges who got undergraduate degrees from Cortland and Buffalo and they have no problem in the "class" department.    To compare entire student graduation rates of SUNY to IVY or the likes of MIT is really apples to oranges. The SUNY system is run by the state, all of the other colleges are private institutions with the ability to charge more and demand more of the top students.   The SUNY system would collapse completely if they were mandated to only accepted what Harvard, Yale and MIT takes. Most of the SUNY schools are required (by law I think) to accept EEOP or EEOC (forgot which acronym) students.  These are kids without the minimum standard to get in, but have shown the qualities of being possibly able to handle college level courses if given the chance.  IT was also based on need. 

I would also tend to believe that the SUNY charter has the same statement as the MIT dean states above.  If half the people you accept as Freshman don't make it past to or past Sophomore year I doubt that any institution would be getting many students and be still operating.  SUNY was around before I got there in 1975 and is still plugging away in 2008.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 05, 2008, 08:12:39 PM
Potsdam wasn't too far in the 80's to host, but then we put 3,500 into the gym & tied up the fire marshal in the janitor's closet (just kidding).  

But - any chance the NCAA had to not have us host, they used, in '84 when we lost by a point to North Park in the National Championship Game, we had to play the regionals at Hartwick, even though we had only three losses.  Hartwick was on break, and attendance was underwhelming at best.

If Plattsburgh wins the regular season and conference tournament, they should be a lock for a first round bye, and to host a second round game.  That's what we did in '05.  With Rochester & Amherst populating the top Ranks of D-III, I'll bet the regionals will be at Amherst, just like they were in '06 with three New York teams, including an undefeated St. John Fisher club.  LeFrak is a sorry excuse for a tournament site, (no parking, or concessions) but if your school has a big enough name and enough influence in D-III circles, it doesn't seem to matter.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 08:16:09 PM
Hunt with three fouls Williams with two fouls  probably riding the pines.

Middlebury shooting over 50% from FG and 3Pt range and 5 blocked shots. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 08:38:12 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 05, 2008, 08:12:39 PM
Potsdam wasn't too far in the 80's to host, but then we put 3,500 into the gym & tied up the fire marshal in the janitor's closet (just kidding). 

But - any chance the NCAA had to not have us host, they used, in '84 when we lost by a point to North Park in the National Championship Game, we had to play the regionals at Hartwick, even though we had only three losses.  Hartwick was on break, and attendance was underwhelming at best.

If Plattsburgh wins the regular season and conference tournament, they should be a lock for a first round bye, and to host a second round game.  That's what we did in '05.  With Rochester & Amherst populating the top Ranks of D-III, I'll bet the regionals will be at Amherst, just like they were in '06 with three New York teams, including an undefeated St. John Fisher club.  LeFrak is a sorry excuse for a tournament site, (no parking, or concessions) but if your school has a big enough name and enough influence in D-III circles, it doesn't seem to matter.


Actually, seeding has become even more important in recent years, it seems. Size of the gymnasium is not very important right now -- if a gym meets the minimum standards, and that seems now to be 1,100 or so where they will clear the gym in between games if needed -- then the highest seed seems to be hosting.

In the 90s, when I started following this, hosting the sectionals alternated between regions, but that's no longer in play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 09:02:04 PM
Big run for Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2008, 09:11:07 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats Middlebury 78-74 at Middlebury.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 09:14:18 PM
What a come back.  Down by as many as 22 point in the 2nd half.    AWESOME .....
AT Middlebury.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 09:16:04 PM
Thank You  D3Hoops for hosting all of these games for US to either listen too, see or follow with the LIVE statistics.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2008, 09:16:49 PM
Plattsburgh down by as many as 22 in the second half comes back to down Middlebury on a late 3 pt basket and key free throws down the stretch. Halftime score Middlebury up 38-21.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2008, 09:21:43 PM

    Plattsburgh first lead on K. Hunt layup at 2:06 for 72-71 edge. Knotted at 72; Williams trey at 1:27, then his two ft for 77-74 lead at 0:33. T. Gorham ft at 0:03. Cards 27x56fg, 19x25ft, 5x13 3s. A. Williams 29 pts(10x22fg, 3x7 3s); A. Miller 18 pts(7x10fg); Gorham 11 pts, 9 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2008, 09:46:39 PM

   Brockport at home trims Cortland 78-65. Leads 38-28 at half and never seriously challenged. B. Williams 22 pts(9x16fg), 14 rebs in 30'; Sherod Harris 15 pts(4x9fg, 2x5 3s), 4 blks, 5 stls, 5 assts; D. Maldonado 11 pts(4x5fg) in 13'; C. Parrish 8 pts, 8 rebs, 9 trnvrs. Port 40-24 reb bulge, shoots 28x56fg, 8x19 3s. Corts 27x61fg. P. Oliver 16 pts(8x14fg), 7 rebs; M. Lewis 13 pts(5x7fg) in 26'; M. Schaller 12 pts(4x6 3s); W. Coston 4 stls, 4 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2008, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on February 05, 2008, 09:16:04 PM
Thank You  D3Hoops for hosting all of these games for US to either listen too, see or follow with the LIVE statistics.

Sure thing, but most of the credit has to go to the SIDs, who post that info on our site. We just provide the framework for them to use.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2008, 09:54:56 PM
   Oneonta buried at Ithaca 95-57. IC sinks 16x27 3s. S. Burton 21 pts(6x10 3s). Bombers 32x59fg. OSt 22x80fg. R. Stokes 12 pts; R. Fisk 3 pts(1x6 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2008, 10:11:54 PM


    Geneseo spanks SUNYIT 87-77. Takes 44-37 lead at half. S. Morton 29 pts(11x20fg, 4x10 3s), 10 assts, 6 rebs; T. Kitson 22 pts(9x14fg), 10 rebs, 3 assts, 3 stls; J. Howe 14 pts(7x10fg), 6 rebs; B. Simpson 11 pts(4x9 fg). Gens 36x64fg, 42-28 reb gap. IT 30x65fg. M. Haynesworth 20 pts(8x13fg, 4 assts, 3 stls; D. Hahn 16 pts(8x14fg); D. Golembiowski 16 pts(4x9 3s); D. Moore 12 pts; A. Edwards 11 assts

     Potsdam takes 74-67 tumble at Utica College. Match squared at 35 at break. Pdam down by 14 in second half, within four late. Bears 23x67fg, 12x17ft. D. Brown 16 pts(5x13fg); S. Clement 16 pts(6x9fg, 4x7 3s); D. Taft 14 pts; B. Siskavich 12 pts. UC's D. Herring 27 pts(14x17ft). Pioneers 23x26ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2008, 11:25:48 PM
jdex,

Thanks for the stats on the Plattsburgh game. I was following it on the live stats and saw the score change from a tie at 72 to Cards up by three. I thought did  "Big Shot" Williams do it again. Now I know the answer. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2008, 11:32:18 PM
Just saw the highlights on WPTZ late sports. It was an NBA three. Just dribbled down and let it fly before they could get a man on him.  Nothin but net.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 06, 2008, 09:06:44 AM
Well, I guess if Lightnin Rod, B-Dubs and Co. take care of business at Morrisville and Oswego this weekend they are a lock for the No. 2 seed and can only get the No. 1 if the Burg slips twice. Not likely to happen--Everybody better get their snowshoes on for the trip. Also 1000 seats will go fast!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2008, 11:56:31 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 06, 2008, 09:06:44 AM
Well, I guess if Lightnin Rod, B-Dubs and Co. take care of business at Morrisville and Oswego this weekend they are a lock for the No. 2 seed and can only get the No. 1 if the Burg slips twice. Not likely to happen--Everybody better get their snowshoes on for the trip. Also 1000 seats will go fast!!

scooterman,

I keep telling you southern tier guys to stow the snowshoes, you've probably got more snow than we do. When you come up here, you bring your skis. The Olympic mountain "Whiteface" is just a short hop down the road, in Lake Placid.
And that could be a big "if " this weekend in Oswego. I would say that Port is favored by 3. If Oswego does beat Port they will have split the season series, both have 2 conf. losses, and their 4 remaining games are against the same teams. Possibility of a tie. Both fared the same against common conf. opponents(loss to each other and Plattsburgh) which I think is the tiebreaker after head to head play. In that case would they go to point differential against each other or just flip a coin?
And you can take that "Burgh slipping twice not likely to happen" to the bank.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 07, 2008, 05:50:21 PM
I know the Lakers are tough at home but the matchups are not in their favor. B. Williams will have a monster game and Shawn Harris will put Perrioli in lockdown. Port by 10!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2008, 10:23:44 PM

  Brockport routs Morrisville 86-63 on the road. Eagles 47-30 at half. Eleven Ports see 11' or more; 17 in action. B. Williams 15 pts(6x11fg), 6 reb, 4 assts, 4 stls iin 23'; M. Wilkes 13 pts(5x8fg, 3x5 3s) in 16'; C. Parrish 12 pts(6x9fg), 6 rebs in 18'; A. Poles 10 pts(3x6fg) in 19'; D. Maldonado 12 pts(4x7fg, 2x5 3s) in 9'; Sherod Harris off bench for 2 pts(1x6fg) in 14'. Port 34x68fg. Mville 23x67fg, 24 trnvrs. T. Foster 14 pts(6x18fg); J. McCants 11 pts(4x9fg)

   Oneonta thrashes SUNYIT 86-51. OSt 44-18 halftime stranglehold. R. Fisk 17 pts(5x8 3s); J. McMiller 12 pts(2x5 3s); M. Grimes 10 pts(3x5fg). Dragons 32x67fg, 12x26 3s. IT 19x60fg. D. Moore 9 pts; D. Golembiowski 8 pts

   Oswego 81, Geneseo 70
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2008, 10:26:24 PM


   Cortland 65, New Paltz 48
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2008, 10:42:33 PM

    Cortland 39-23 upper hand at half and NP never nearer 11 rest of the way. Corts 27x57fg, 41-29 board edge and led scoring by P. Oliver 15 pts(7x11fg), 5 rebs in 30'; sr. spare M. Jankiewicz 13 pts (5x8fg, 3x6 3s); C. Niehoff 9 pts, 8 rebs; M. Schaller 5 assts. M. Lewis 5 pts, 8 rebs, 4pf in 27'. NP 18x51fg gets 22 pts(9x12fg) from K. Nelson

   Oswego tidy effort at home. Up 42-28 at half and never challenged thereafter. Guns at 26x55fg clip, 10x22 3s, 19x30ft. T. Downing 22 pts(6x12fg, 5x9 3s), 6 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls; N. Perioli 19 pts(8x18fg, 3x7 3s); M. Jabbi 12 pts(5x12fg), 7 rebs; D. White 8 rebs. Geneseo 26x57fg paced by R. Hasenauer off bench for 16 pts(6x10fg) in 13'. J. Howe 14 pts(6x10fg), 7 rebs; J. Kling 11 pts, 4 stls. S. Morton 7 pts(1x8fg) in 28'; T. Kitson 0 pts(0x6fg) in 29'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 09, 2008, 02:18:14 PM
B-port all but locks the NO. 2 seed with W at Oswego this PM. AP needs to come off bench and play productive minutes along with Maldonato and Johnson for Eagles to walk!!! Port by 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2008, 03:02:04 PM

Also today ....
   
    Pdam at Pburgh, BS at Freds, Corts at One, IT at NP, Gens at Mville

    East: Pburgh 11-0 (18-2), Corts 9-3 (16-5), One 6-6 (11-10), Pdam 4-7 (8-12), NP 2-10 (6-14), IT 1-10 (4-13)

    West: Bport 11-1 (15-6), Osw 9-2 (15-4), Gens 7-5 (14-7), Freds 3-7 (6-13), BS 3-7 (5-11), Mville 2-10 (5-13)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 09, 2008, 06:48:48 PM
Brockport beats oswego at oswego pretty easily this afternoon. Brockport jumped out to a big lead to start the game and pretty much roled. Not sure of the final but i think they won by about 15.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 09, 2008, 07:01:23 PM
74-58 Bport over the Lakers of Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 09, 2008, 07:59:59 PM
B-Dubs with 23 pts and JJ with career high 14 pts--Match ups not good for Lakers-- Ligntnin Rod with 6 assists--Way to take care of business, Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2008, 08:05:10 PM

   Brockport 74, Osweego 58
   SUNYIT 71, New Paltz 64
   Geneseo 71, Morrisville 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2008, 08:06:38 PM

    Cortland 72, Oneonta 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2008, 10:46:08 PM

   Cortland rides to 39-35 lead at half, sees Oneonta take 47-45 lead and game even with 10' left before Corts on 7-0 spree. Guests' 5x6ft in final 1:47 dooms OSt. CSt 26x45fg, 8x13 3s to Oneonta 28x61fg. Corts C. Niehoff strikes for all of his 16 pts(4x5 3s) in 1st half. M. Jankiewicz picks up slack second straight night from absent W. Coston. Sr. Jankiewicz 14 pts(5x8fg, 4x5 3s). M. Lewis 15 pts(6x10fg), 8 rebs; P. Oliver 14 pts(6x9fg); M. Schaller 7 assts. One gets 25 pts (9x19fg) from R. Fisk. M. Grimes 15 pts(7x14fg); E. Arrington 6 assts.

   Brockport scores game's first 12 points, zooms to 44-31 lead at half and coasts. Port 28x54fg. B. Williams 23 pts(9x14fg), 9 rebs; soph J. Johnson with lift of 14 pts(6x11fg), 10 pts in first half; Sherod Harris 10 pts, 7 rebs, 6 assts. Lakers 20x55fg, 1x9 3s. N. Perioli 16 pts(5x11fg), 3 assts; M. Jabbi 15 pts; T. Downing 10 pts(3x11fg)

   Geneseo has 38-29 charge of Morrisville by half. Visiting Gens 24x49fg. S. Morton 24 pts(8x15fg), 5 assts; J. Howe 13 pts(5x12fg), 6 assts; T. Kitson 11 pts(4x6fg). Mville 23x56fg. T. Foster 21 pts(9x15fg); K. Buell 13 pts(5x10fg); A. Olasokan 12 pts

    SUNYIT involved in 34-33 halftime fight at New Paltz. IT 27x58fg, 50-35 board advantage. D. Hahn 17 pts; A. Edwards 15 pts, 6 assts; D. Moore 14 pts, 11 rebs; D. Golembiowski 14 pts, 12 rebs. NP has last lead with 5:34 left. Shoots 25x67fg. J. Sugrue 21 pts(7x20fg, 6x16 3s); K. Nelson 20 pts(8x14fg); B. Kuar 10 pts(5x10fg)

    Buffalo State over Fredonia 66-61 at Freds place. Hosts by 34-30 at half. Buffs in finishing 28-10 kick. BS 20x43fg, 24x32ft, outreb 38-28. J. Gray 16 pts(5x11fg); J. Tyndal 15 pts(4x7fg); G. Carr 14 pts(5x6fg). Devils 23x65fg (9x31 2nd half), 2x19 3s), 13x21ft. R. Buckmon 19 pts(8x16fg, 2x7 3s); B. Cooper 5 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 09, 2008, 10:46:10 PM
the Cards of Plattsburgh  87 
Da Bears of Potsdam   78

The only SUNYAC home team to win today.   
12-0 in conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2008, 11:14:49 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh-Potsdam game played before a packed house at Memorial Hall in Pburgh. Back and forth first half with largest lead by either team only 6 pts. Bears with a push near the end to grab a 31-29 edge.  More of the same for the first 8 mins. of the 2nd period when Cards begin to assert themselves. Open up a 4 pt lead and extend it to 8 at 56-48 with 8:30 remaining. A.Williams and C. Ruiz fuel the Cards and extend lead to 12 with 5 mins and then by 15 with 3:45 left to play. Potsdam started the foul parade with the score 68-53. 44 points scored in last 3 1/2 mins for the final of 87-78. Williams with only 2 pts at the half hit for 24 in the 2nd to end up with 26pts. 3assists and 2 steals. Travis Gorham with another huge night off the boards finished with 19 pts. and 14 rebounds. Khylan Hunt grabbed 15 rebounds to go with 9 pts. Chris Ruiz hit for 11 pts off the bench and Errol Daniyan had 8 pts. and 8 rebounds also off the bench. Potsdam was led by Damon Brown with 20 pts. 7 boards and 5 assists, followed by Alvin Dike with 19 pts. and 8 boards. Brandon Siskavich returning to his hometown area chipped in with 13 pts. and 9 rebounds off the bench.

Nationally ranked at # 13 in the D3hoops top 25 poll Plattsburgh wins it's 12th game in a row and remains undefeated in SUNYAC play with a 12-0 record. They up their overall record to 19-2 and should move up a  notch or two as the 13th ranked team Puget Sound suffered their 4th defeat on Fri. eve.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 10, 2008, 10:16:27 PM
Magic--How many can the Burg facility accomodate? I heard 1000 spectators-- is that correct? If it is they should move the SUNYAC playoffs to a larger facility. There should be a minimum to host--That's my thoughts--Not Utica as in past because too big for amount of spectators. Another SUNY campus. Closer to the Burg seeing how they are the NO1 seed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 10, 2008, 11:21:43 PM
Excuse me, but Tuttle Gym in Brockport is said to seat 2000 people and there is NO WAY it was 1/2 full for last year's final. Even with the 100+ Plattsburgh fans who came from many miles away to watch the victorious Cardinals REPEAT as SUNYAC champions.    If Potsdam and/or Oswego get to the SUNYAC Final four there may be a shortage of seats, but I doubt that Brockport and Cortland fans are going to make the trip. 

IF any place deserves to host that tournament it is the #1 seed, the #1 team in the league and the two time champions.  And if the seating in Memorial hall is only listed as 1000, than the seating at St John Fisher is less than that.  However St John Fisher lists their gym as having a capacity of 1200.   I think Memorial hall has somewhere closer to 1200 or 1500 S.R.O. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2008, 02:21:01 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 10, 2008, 10:16:27 PM
Magic--How many can the Burg facility accomodate? I heard 1000 spectators-- is that correct? If it is they should move the SUNYAC playoffs to a larger facility. There should be a minimum to host--That's my thoughts--Not Utica as in past because too big for amount of spectators. Another SUNY campus. Closer to the Burg seeing how they are the NO1 seed.

scooterman,

Memorial hall is listed on the D3hoops Plattsburgh page as holding 1000 and that's probably pretty close. It was packed on Sat. night against Potsdam and they were turning people away. I tried to guess while I was there what the actual capacity was and I think it's probably closer to 1100, give or take a few.

Cards, they didn't allow any standing room at the game on Sat. so I don't think that's an option. Believe me one of the coaches left tickets for his brother and he had to fight to get in even though I had saved him some seats.

But back to the gym size. Stevens is probably going to host the Empire 8 tournament and their gym is listed on the D3hoops page as only holding 1000. Fisher's gym which hosted the E8 finals and the NCAA's last year, including the round of 16 on the 2nd weekend of the tournament also has a listed capacity of 1000. These teams won't and didn't switch to a larger venue.

There is absolutely no way a team that has played on their home court all year and earned the top seed is going to change sites just to accomodate a larger crowd. After all your home court wouldn't be your home court if you switched buildings. Part of the game is knowing the background of your building, your rims, your floor, your backboards. All of these factors make the home court advantage what it is. And believe me in no other sport, in my opinion, is the home advantage as large as that in basketball. Why would we want to give that up? There has been talk on these boards of moving the games to our much larger field house. But we don't play or practice there, so basically we would be giving up what we worked so hard to attain. Can you at least follow me on this?
And they tried holding the tournament in a central location and we all saw how that worked out. It sucked. That's why they went back to the top seed's place. Cards7580 is right. There won't be that many fans making the long trip up here to see the semis and finals. So if you're coming up arrive 35 minutes before game time and you'll be fine.

One last note. Moving the playoff site is probably never going to work because it would have to be a neutral site if you are not going to reward the top seed. And if the site where the games are played doesn't have a local team(and it wouldn't be a neutral site if it did) you won't draw the crowds to come and watch the games. That was part of the problem at Utica. It wasn't a neutral site but the home team was rarely in the final 4 and consequently the place was empty.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 11, 2008, 04:38:45 AM
Saturday night, the Plattsburgh paper listed 912 as the attendance for the Potsdam-Plattsburgh game, as described it as a sold-out gym.  SRO, I would say they can hold (not seat) 1,000.

Memorial Hall is a 1960's SUNY facility, very similar to the "old gyms" at many of the campuses.

Plattsburgh had Stafford built in the early 70's, same time as Maxcy.  They were already starting hockey and made the financial decision to build a larger arena, but make their large BB facility the field house at Stafford, with moveable bleachers and a rubber floor (still there 35 years later, and not safe for big fast athletes of any sex to play a game on)

In 75-76, when they were SUNYAC Champs and made it to the final four, they moved their home games back to Memorial, since they rarely drew huge crowds except for Potsdam and Albany (traditional rivals).

The remaining top seeds in the SUNYAC, Brockport, Oswego, & Cortland all have gyms two to three times the size of Plattsburgh, but if Plattsburgh has an undefeated regular season, they have earned the right to host.

You are right about Eddie Jachim walking every inch of the floor dribbling a basketball at Memorial to locate the dead spots.  What is it John Wooden always said, "failing to prepare is preparing to fail".

That's why Eddie's team won a national championship in overtime on the other team's home floor.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on February 11, 2008, 10:59:11 AM
Playing on your own floor is a huge advantage for the playoffs. Plattsburgh's gym might seem like a high school gym but at the same time it makes for a great atmosphere, that many other gyms can't do. Ask any of the players, would they prefer a dead and empty Utica Aud or Memorial Gym at Plattsburgh. The clear answer would be Plattsburgh even though they wouldn't want to drive there.

It is pretty sad that the SUNYAC thought the Utica Aud, which hadn't made a renovation since the movie Slapshot, was hosting their tournament. Even SUNYIT's gym was a better atmosphere.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 11, 2008, 08:32:59 PM
Potsdam fans of old would have been proud.

I caught the first half of Wagner vs Quinnipiac on TV tonight.
The Q band was playing during a missed Wagner foul shot and Mike Deane was
screaming at the officials through the 2nd MADE foul shot and before the ball was
in play.    Then during the next Quinippiac foul shot that was missed you could
hear Mike yell "Where's the band now"  or something to that affect.   

The announcers even talked about the seat belted chair he was using earlier
in the season.  They were cracking up while Mike was "being Mike".   

Gotta love his passion.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 11, 2008, 08:34:36 PM
Yeah - I'm busting a gut watching him, gotta love him, even if he is certifiable.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 11, 2008, 10:52:49 PM
I like Oxybob's rating system--if the season were to end today it looks like the Burg and Bport would both get in. Hopefully they both win out and play in the championship for the SUNY's--That would be a great game even in the Hall. Both would represent the East well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2008, 12:13:15 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 11, 2008, 10:52:49 PM
I like Oxybob's rating system--if the season were to end today it looks like the Burg and Bport would both get in. Hopefully they both win out and play in the championship for the SUNY's--That would be a great game even in the Hall. Both would represent the East well.

I think you mean pabegg's rating system, don't you. He's the poster who put up the Pool C rankings on the Multi-Regional board. He's got Plattsburgh at #3 and Brockport at #31. I hope he's right. He said the real rankings will be out on Wednesday. He sure put a lot of time and effort into his rankings. And it will be a great game, most likely a replay of Jan. 26th. I hope! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2008, 01:22:00 AM
Wagner win's in OT over Quinnipiac 82-70. Deane's team now 10-2 in the conference  plays at 11-2 Sacred Heart on Thursday for a share of 1st place. Robert Morris also 10-2 needs to lose to Central Connecticut Thurs. and Mike's team will be in 1st all by themselves. Crunch time for the top seed will most likely be determined on Feb. 23rd when Wagner travels to Robert Morris for the only meeting between these two schools. Sure would like to see Mike take a 4th school to the Big Dance. He'd be in pretty elite company if he does. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 12, 2008, 01:39:00 AM
It was great to see the old Potsdam out of bounds play still works down the stretch.  You'd a thunk that after nearly 40 years (I first saw it run in 71-72) that someone would remember to defend the center.

The other four coaches who have taken four teams to the D-I Big Dance are:

Eddie Sutton
Lefty Dreisell
Jim Harrick
Rick Pitino

Unfortunately the first three crashed & burned in spectacular fashion.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2008, 04:11:35 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 11, 2008, 04:38:45 AM
Saturday night, the Plattsburgh paper listed 912 as the attendance for the Potsdam-Plattsburgh game, as described it as a sold-out gym.  SRO, I would say they can hold (not seat) 1,000.

Bear

I know I said the place was packed the other night for the Potsdam game and that they were turning people away, but I should clarify my remarks. All the bleachers looked filled for the first time in several months because Plattsburgh had a home game on Dec. 7th against Oswego and then went on the road for their next 6 games. They didn't play at home again until Jan. 18th and the college wasn't in session so no students to fill the place up. In fact The Potsdam game on Sat. was the 1st time the students were at a game since that Dec 7th Oswego game. The 4 home games we had in Jan. were well attended but nothing like last Sat. when the kids were back. We actually had Cheerleaders and line dancers present. I don't know how the paper determined there were 912 people in attendance. They can't spell, usually have their facts wrong,(they have stated at least 3 times in the past two weeks that the Cardinals are undefeated on the road. I guess losing in Calif. and at the Union tournament aren't considered road games.) So I'd be real surprised if they could count. Anyway despite turning people away there were seats to be had. Also it was Special Olympics night at Memorial Hall and if the count was based on ticket sales none of the olympians were counted as they were given free admission. They had 3 or 4 rows of bleacher seats at one end blocked off for them right behind Plattsburgh bench. That's where my friends and I usually sit and we had to move to the other side of the gym because there were quite a few olympians present, along with their relatives to watch them play a mini BB game against the Plattsburgh Soccer team. Why the ticket sellers were turning people away was strange because usually if it's jam packed you'd think they would get on the PA and ask people to squeeze together to allow more people in. My buddy's daughter's are both Potsdam girls. One graduated last year and one is a JR. this year. The graduate had 3 or 4 of her Potsdam buddies come over for the game and they arrived a little late and they were denied admission. She called up dad on his cell phone and he had to go out and argue with the ticket people so the girls could get in to see the game. We had at least 6 or 7 seats available where we were sitting so they finally got in after a minor argument. I kind of did a rough count the other night and I figured there were probably about a 1000 people present with room for about another 100 or so if everyone were squeezed together.

On another note I was impressed with Damon Brown the other night . Good shooter, good range, athletic, and can go to the hoop. Alvin Dike is pretty solid player as well. Those two along with Siskavich all coming back next year bodes well for the Bears. Reinhardt looked good but foul trouble kept him out for much of the game. He'll be missed next year but only losing 3 guys makes me think you'll be in the thick of things come tourney time.

Now the way I see it the Bears are going to go 3-1 in their last 4 games to finish up with a 7-9 conference record. They'll beat Oneonta, New Paltz, and SUNYIT, but most likely lose to Cortland on the road.

Oneonta with only 3 games left will lose to Potsdam, Plattsburgh, and beat New Paltz to finish at 7-9 as well, but you'll hold the tiebreaker over them.

Buffalo St. with 5 games left will beat Morrisville and Fredonia but lose to Brockport, Geneseo, and Oswego to finish 6-10.

That will give the Bears the 6th overall seed and will most likely mean a trip to Oswego for a 1st round game. Oswego and Cortland both have 3 losses but if Plattsburgh can beat Cortland on the road Feb. 22nd (and that's a big if-I can see their perfect Conference record coming to an end that day, but I hope not) then Cortland will have 4 losses and Oswego probably won't make up the game against SUNYIT that was canceled on Feb.1st. The Lakers finish with games against Fredonia, Buff St. and Morrisville and will end up with a 12-3 record and hold the tiebreaker over Cortland making the SUNYIT game meaningless for both teams.

So there you have it . Now, once all that happens your (our, Iwent there too, remember) Bears just have to beat Oswego in that 1st round game and you'll be coming over to visit Plattsburgh for the Semi's. After that you're on your own. ;D

Wouldn't it be nice if it played out that way?

By the way you'll know this I'm sure. When was the last time a team ran the table in the conference? Do we have to go all the way back to those great Bears teams of the 80's or has it been done more recently than that?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 12, 2008, 07:55:02 AM
Seeing a specific number of 912 and not one rounded off to 0 or 5, I would speculate as Major did that that number is based on ticket sales.  The 1000 count listed as capacity may be the "comfortable seating" count whereas 1200 would be the "tight squeeze" capacity.  I know it used to be in the 1500 range before the renovations.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2008, 08:33:24 PM

     SUNYIT beaten 78-67 at Utica College whose Pioneers on top 36-31 at half. Extend to 19. IT 22x68fg, 20x23ft. D. Moore 15 pts(5x10fg), 8 rebs; L-K Miller 13 pts(5x9fg); D. Hahn 12 pts(6x6ft); D. Golembiowski 10 pts(3x13fg); A. Edwards 10 assts. UC's P. Goodman 17 pts paces four in double figures

     From Sunday: Morrisville loses 73-71 OT to Albany Pharmacy. Stangs 30-28 at half; 65 all reg. Hit 28x77fg. T. Foster 26 pts(11x18fg, 4x7 3s); W. Jackson 11 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsportsfan on February 12, 2008, 09:04:28 PM
Buff State 82  Houghton 63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2008, 11:49:52 PM

   New Paltz bows 71-53 at home to Baruch. Hawks trail 29-25 at half and go on to lose ninth straight. K. Nelson 15 pts(7x11fg); B. Kuar 13 pts(4x8fg). Baruch completes regular season at 13-12 by winning eighth of closing nine games

    Buffalo St. jumps ahead of Houghton 42-27 at half. Winds up 33x62fg. J. Gray 33 pts(14x18fg, 2x3 3s) in 30'; A. Samedi 10 pts(3x4fg); A. White 10 pts(5x9fg). Houghton 7-15
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 13, 2008, 03:25:49 PM
the east rankings are out the the SUNY rules!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2008, 03:22:22 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 13, 2008, 03:25:49 PM
the east rankings are out the the SUNY rules!!!

You're so happy you're stuttering now!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 14, 2008, 08:37:10 AM
magic--you are correct!!!! Anyway, I hope they live up to their billing--The Burg and Bport need to take care of business the rest of the way and not rest upon their laurels!! Get ready for TOURNEY TIME!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 14, 2008, 08:30:50 PM
I happened to notice today that Keene St beat Northeast #2 ranked U Mass Dartmouth 92-85.

I also happened to notice that SUNYAC East cellar dweller New Paltz (2-11 conference) beat Keene St 90-86 in OT earlier this season.

Is the East the beast this year?  Rochester, Plattsburgh, Brockport, Stevens all very talented.

Amherst seems to have avoided the best in the east, despite being right next door (72 miles from St. Line).  Surely they could have scheduled Plattsburgh or Vassar or SLU rather than two vs. (5-17) So. Vt.

Also think the regional rule needs to be expanded to include any school in a state bordering on the state a school is located.  That would allow NY to count regional games in Vt, Ma, CT, NJ, & PA.  Would greatly improve the cross-tabulation of ratings if these games were in region.  Might encourage play between NESCAC and SUNYAC, LL, E-8.

For Potsdam, SLU, Clarkson, there are four schools (Middlebury, Johnson St, Green Mtn, Castleton St) located within 200 miles that are "in region" that are not in NY.





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 14, 2008, 09:13:07 PM

SUNYIT blitzes Albany Pharmacy 93-56. IT's D. Golembiowski 22 pts(9x16fg, 4x7 3s), 9 reb, 3 stls in 25'; M. Haynesworth 17 pts(6x9fg, 5x7 3s) in 22'; D. Moore 11 pts, 8 rebs; D. Hahn 11 pts(5x7fg). Up 45-29 at half. Sinks 36x73fg. AlbPharms 7-16
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 14, 2008, 09:34:40 PM
"...
For Potsdam, SLU, Clarkson, there are four schools (Middlebury, Johnson St, Green Mtn, Castleton St) located within 200 miles that are "in region" that are not in NY....:

Bear, we used to play three of the four you listed each year back in 75-80.  Only Middlebury was a contest. Add Lyndon State and Norwich Academy to that list also.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 14, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
Not from Potsdam - just beyond the 200 mile limit.

Stupid why games in NYC/NJ/PA (except NYU) don't count as in region.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2008, 10:28:09 PM
bear

Still waiting for the answer to my question. Who and when was the last team to run the table in the  SUNYAC confrence? Probably gonna jinx the Cardinals by talking about it, especially when we have to travel to Cortland next weekend but I think the team will be up for the challenge. I'm guessing it probably occured during that 60 game win streak the Bears had but that was over 20 years ago. Just don't know if anyone has done it since then.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 15, 2008, 12:09:53 AM
"...Probably gonna jinx the Cardinals by talking about it..."

That would be my job  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2008, 01:41:55 AM
I'll check.  No one has done it in this decade, Brockport was 15-1 in '03-04, but were upset by my Bears in the SUNYAC final.

I have a hunch that Buff State with Nate Gainey ran the table in the late 80's/early 90's at least once, and the great Geneseo teams with Scott Fitch were also capable of that type of performance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2008, 03:17:02 AM
Thanks Bear,

I remember the 03-04 season and the upset by the Bears over Brockport that year in the finals. And I had that Geneseo team with Fitch as a possibility. He was a great player. Last time I saw him play was the PBA tournament here in Plattsburgh, which his team won. I think that was the last year they had a PBA tournament. Man, he could take over a game. 

Mike Deane must have been buckled up good and tight tonite(Thurs.) as his Wagner Seahawks took down league leading Sacred Heart 100-92 in double OT. Wagner now tied with Robert Morris atop the NEC standings with an 11-2 record. Sacred Heart falls to 11-3 with 2 of those losses coming at the hands of the Seahawks. The big showdown for most likely the top seed will be next Sat evening at Robert Morris unfortunately. It's the only meeting of these 2 this year. If you hear of any radio link for that game please pass it along. TV coverage would be too much to hope for.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 15, 2008, 08:23:11 AM
I think you are right with Gainey in the late 80's and early 90's Coach Birhs(sp) had to have one or two back then. Very interested to know!! Yeah, the Eagles in 2003 were 15-1 should have run the table but didn't. It is difficult to stay focused every night for 16 league contests. These kids have to go to school, too. No tutors to assist them like D1 kids.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2008, 08:48:27 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 15, 2008, 03:17:02 AM

Mike Deane must have been buckled up good and tight tonite(Thurs.) as his Wagner Seahawks took down league leading Sacred Heart 100-92 in double OT. Wagner now tied with Robert Morris atop the NEC standings with an 11-2 record. Sacred Heart falls to 11-3 with 2 of those losses coming at the hands of the Seahawks. The big showdown for most likely the top seed will be next Sat evening at Robert Morris unfortunately. It's the only meeting of these 2 this year. If you hear of any radio link for that game please pass it along. TV coverage would be too much to hope for.

Watched the game last night on MSG, a classic. Deane has lost the seatbelt.  He got T'd twice and ejected the first game after the article came out, the second T had everyone (Including Mike) in the place wondering what he'd said.  He's been on his feet the last two games on TV. I think he has a beefy assistant coach charged with tackling him if he goes out of the coaching box.

Must be tough to play for him, such a perfectionist.  Even tougher to ref his games, he sees and knows everything.

Most of the Wagner games have an audio link.  Go to www.wagner.edu, find men's basketball, and click on schedule, and the links should be there.  MSG runs a Monday/Thursday TV schedule for the NEC, rotating among the teams in the metro NY/NJ/CT area.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2008, 09:27:26 AM
Thanks, Bear. Lucky you to watch the game last night. I don't get MSG on my dish at home. I do have it on cable at my business and once in a while they have the NEC games on Sat. afternoons. I just may have to "work" late next Sat nite if MSG does the game. If not I'll at least try the audio link you mentioned.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2008, 10:11:19 AM
Buff State Media Guide says their last undefeated conference season was 71-72 (Randy Smith).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 15, 2008, 11:59:39 AM
The Burg will be the first since!! Mark it down--scooterman, even though not a Burg fan, predicts it!!!LOL--Good luck Burg!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2008, 12:41:17 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 15, 2008, 11:59:39 AM
The Burg will be the first since!! Mark it down--scooterman, even though not a Burg fan, predicts it!!!LOL--Good luck Burg!!

Actually, the Bears won 31 regular season games in a row (plus two tournaments) from November 85 - February 88.  Over the four years from 84-88, they were 41-2 during the regular season.

Still waiting to hear if anyone went undefeated from 87-00.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 15, 2008, 12:53:27 PM
"...The Burg will be the first since!! Mark it down--scooterman, even though not a Burg fan, predicts it!!!LOL--Good luck Burg!!..."

The KISS OF DEATH ,   aghhhhhhhhhh :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2008, 10:04:53 PM

  Brockport whips Buffalo St. 89-73, building 62-41 halftime bulge on 20x37fg. Bport 30x64fg, 22x30ft. B. Williams 17 pts(6x10fg), 6 reb in 24'; A. Poles 16 pts(6x9fg, 3x5 3s) in 18'; Sherod Harris 14 pts(3x8fg, 7x7ft) in 21'; D. Maldonado 11 pts(4x9fg, 2x5 3s). BS 22x56fg, 27x37ft, 40-37reb. J. Gray 13 pts(3x11fg); A. Samedi 13 pts; A. Speed 12 pts

   Geneseo gets by Fredonia 52-26. Just 20-14 half gap. Gens 16x39fg, 6x13 3s. J. Kling 15 pts(4x8fg, 2x5 3s), 7 rebs; S. Morton 12 pts(3x12fg), 5 assts; K. Stevens 10 pts. Freds 18x45fg, 6x17 3s. W. Davis 13 pts(5x9fg), 3 stls; J. Bryant 4 assts

   Potsdam 72, Oneonta 61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2008, 10:29:31 PM

  Oswego 81, Morrisville 72

   Potsdam had Oneonta by 35-27 at half. Bears 27x58fg, 14x17ft. T. Reinhardt 20 pts(7x13fg), 9reb, 2 ass, 2 stls; A. Dike 19 pts(8x14fg), 11 rreb; D. Brown 13 pts; S. Clement 12 pts. OSt 23x61fg. R. Fisk 15 pts(5x9fg, 3x4 3s); S. Gillette 10 pts(4x7fg, 2x3 3s); M. Grimes 7 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2008, 10:32:34 PM

Plattsburgh 87, New Paltz 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2008, 11:00:30 PM

   Plattsburgh breaks 36-all tie at half with NP. Still tied with about 15' left. Pburghers take charge over final 10'. A. Williams 30 pts(11x26fg, 2x7 3s), 5 assts in 35'; T. Gorham 18 pts(7x10fg), 11 rebs; K. Hunt 10 pts, 10 rebs; A. Miller 5 assts. Cards 33x69fg, 45-34reb. NP 25x62fg. L. Bertram 16 pts(6x10fg), 5 rebs; M. Hauser 11 pts(4x5fg, 2x2 3s), 7 rebs

   Oswego trails Mville 40-39 at half. Still a six point game at 1:25. Lakers 25x72fg, 4x21 3s. T. Downing 26 pts(8x18fg, 4x12 3s); M. Jabbi 17 pts, 8 rebs; N. Perioli 14 pts, 6 assts; D. White 10 pts, 9 rebs; K. Reuter 10 pts. Stangs 28x73fg, 53 reb. T. Foster 16 pts(7x19fg), 15 rebs; W. Jackson 16 pts; A. Olasokan 13 pts, 6 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2008, 11:32:12 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh-New Paltz game at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. A large but not capacity crowd was on hand to watch the Cardinals extend their current winning streak to 13 straight, and remain undefeated in conference play, upping their record to 13-0 in the SUNYAC and 20-2 overall. They also kept their home record unblemished for the season. Both teams came out firing with a fast paced tempo but neither team was able to establish much of an advantage. They ended up tied at the break 36-36. Plattsburgh's defensive intensity just didn't seem to be there in the 1st period and they were a little sloppy taking care of the ball finishing with 10 turnovers to 6 for the Hawks. I'm sure Coach Curle had plenty to say to the guys during the break and it seemed to work as Plattsburgh grabbed a short lead early on and never looked back. New Paltz hung tough however and the Cardinals could only manage a 4 to 6 point lead until the 13 minute mark when they opened it up and grabbed their 1st double digit advantage with 12:32 left. After a quick time out Plattsburgh went on another spurt and with 10:02 left had opened up a 19 point lead. New Paltz never threatened after that. The lead stayed between 19 to 23 pts. with Curle emptying the bench with about 4 mins. to play. 10 Cardinal players got into the scoring column led once again by the big three of Anthony Williams, Travis Gorham, and Khylan Hunt. Williams finished with 30 points on11x26 FG and 6X6 FT. Gorham added 18 pts on 7x10 FG & 4x6 FT and as usual maintained his double -double average hauling down 11 rebounds. Hunt also finished with a double-double scoring 10 pts. and grabbing 10 boards, 6 on the offensive end. Antwane Miller chipped in with 8 pts, 4 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 steals. New Paltz was paced by Lee Bertram with 16 pts on 6x10 FG and 4x4 FT. Matt Hauser also reached double figures with 11 pts on 4x5 FG & 2x2 FT while grabbing a team high 7 boards.





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 16, 2008, 12:39:51 AM
Miller and Hunt never get the accolades that Travis and Anthony get, but they sure do make a difference in most games.  Antwane is especially good keeping everyone loose.  Always smiling. 

Let  me know what special gifts the seniors get during their Senior day ceremony.  Hopefullly they will remember there is a game to play and an undefeated home record to uphold.   

Depending upon the weather, I will get going to Cortland (for sure) and maybe drive to SUNYIT the next day.  I'll be sure to report on the atmosphere for each arena as those teams attempt to prevent the 16-0 from happening.  Assuming the Cards beat down the Oneonta team like the Bears did Friday night.

I hope Anthony scores 30 so that Larry Parker's Career Points record is broken at home.  If it happens at Cortland it will remind me of the THUG that elbowed Larry in the face and put an pre-mature end to Larry's College career in the 1977-78 season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2008, 01:58:13 AM
thebear

Big first step taken by Potsdam tonight to secure that 6th seed I predicted a few days ago. I think the win over Oneonta was the biggest hurdle to having that happen. The Bears are now currently the 7th seed, moving up 1 spot because of Buff State's loss to Bport. A win by Potsdam on Sat. against New Paltz, coupled with a Red Dragon loss to Plattsburgh, and the Bears will wake up Sunday morning in 6th place. They will then control their own destiny.  I guess you could say it's in the "CARDS" for that to happen.

And the way Oswego played tonight against Morrisville leaves us hope for that 1st round upset and a chance to get to the semi-finals. Go BEARS!!!  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2008, 03:33:12 AM
thebear

No Brandon Siskavich tonight for Potsdam. Is he injured again?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2008, 03:45:17 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 15, 2008, 10:11:19 AM
Buff State Media Guide says their last undefeated conference season was 71-72 (Randy Smith).


I saw Randy Smith play that year in the old Potsdam Gym(Merrit Hall I think it was called). What an athlete and ballplayer. The Bears put up a good fight that day but Randy was too much for us to handle. The mere mention brought back fond memories.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 16, 2008, 09:20:57 AM
Been away a awhile! Have to make a living.

Glad I started a rebate debate.  The Plattsburgh people bring up the size of other schools gyms however these schools do not have a student population of over 5000.  It will be almost impossible for a fan from another school to get a ticket.  There are many diehard D3 fans that will travel the distance to see their team play, only to arrive and not get tickets is very dishearten. 

FYI, just heard that Pburg will be holding a lottery for playoff tickets similar to what the Mets are doing for the last game at Shea.

RIP Shea Stadium!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2008, 10:09:30 AM

  Evidently no one really cared, but  .........just to placate you Fredonia followers (have to be some), Freds fell 52-46 to Geneseo. However, that halftime score was correct: 20-14 .......barnburner!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2008, 05:51:02 PM

   Cortland runs past SUNYIT 94-70 on strength of making school record 15 treys

   Brockport outguns Fredonia 86-69, cruising after 43-38 midway stoppage
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2008, 06:15:11 PM

  Potsdam 73, New Paltz 62

  Geneseo 93, Buffalo St. 51

   Cortland has IT down 51-33 at half. Dragons 34x64fg in record 15x30 3s showing. C. Niehoff off bench in 22' stint for 25 pts(8x15fg, 5x9 3s). M. Jankiewicz another strong showing with 13 pts(5x9fg, 3x6 3s), 5 rebs; M. Lewis 11 pts(4x6fg); P. Oliver 10 pts(5x8fg), 6 rebs; R. Evans 10 pts, 4 stls in game-high 29'. IT 22x51fg. D. Hahn 17 pts(6x11fg); J. Edwards 15 pts, 5 assts; D. Golembiowski 11 pts; L-K Miiller 11 pts

    Brockport pulls fg trigger at 29x56 clip (9x24 3s). Just 12 trnvrs to Freds 26 and 27x50fg. Eagle Sherod Harris 16 pts(5x8fg, 2x4 3s); D. Maldonado 15 pts(5x8fg, 3x5 3s) in 20'; C. Parris 15 pts, 6 reb in 16'; B. Williams 14 pts(5x9fg), 5 rebs. Freds B. Cooper 12 pts(5x9fg); J. Bryant 10 pts(4x8fg); K. Gordon 4 assts, 7 rebs

     Morrisville vs. Maine-Presque Isle, cancelled
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2008, 07:17:45 PM
Plattsburgh St. 83- Oneonta St. 59. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2008, 07:56:21 PM
Just returned from the Plattsburgh State game against Oneonta. Not really much of a contest at Memorial Hall this afternoon as Plattsburgh riding the emotional high of Senior Night jumped out to a quick 10 point lead and led 20-4 by the 10 min. mark. Up 30-12 with 6 minutes left in the half, they went to the break with a 43-26 advantage. More of the same to start the 2nd as they extended their margin to 62-33 with 12 minutes left to play. Once again Coach Curle substituted freely as 13 Cardinals hit the scoring column. The highlight of the day was Anthony Williams setting a new school record for career points scored breaking the mark set by former Plattsburgh State star Larry Parker. Williams nailed a 3 with approximately 6 minutes left to reach his game high 29 point total. Timeout was called and the milestone was acknowledged by the crowd with a huge standing ovation. It was the second straight night he hit for 29 or more and gave him a 3 year total of 1562 points. He also had a number of crowd pleasing passes to finish with 7 assists, 4 rebounds, and 3 steals. he was 10x19 FG 3x7 3pt 6x7 FT. Another milestone was reached as Travis Gorham scored 17 pts to top the 1000 pt. mark for his career. He finished with 17 pts on 7x11 FG, 3x6 from 3pt land. He also had 5 assists & 3 blocks in 29 mins. Khylan Hunt had his 2nd straight double-double with 11 pts. and 10 boards. Oneonta was led by Brian Hooks with 14 pts. on 4x7 FG 3x6 3 pt. 3x3 Ft. Robert Fisk added 10 pts on 4x14 FG Plattsburgh is now 14-0 in Sunyac play and 21-2 overall.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2008, 08:52:07 PM

  Geneseo out to 45-19 halftime lead. Shoots 35x77fg, grabs 54 reb as BS goes 20x63fg. Knight J. Howe 18 pts(9x10fg), 9 reb; M. Karam 14 pts(5x11fg, 4x9 3s) in 21'; J. Kling 12 pts(4x8fg, 2x4 3s), 5 assts, 5 stls; B. Simpson 11 pts(5x10fg); R. Hasenhauer 10 pts in 12'. Bengal A. Speed 12 pts(5x12fg), 7 reb; J. Gray 8 pts

   Potsdam holds 27-22 lead at half. Bears 24x56fg, 21x25ft. A. Dike 21 pts(8x12fg), 7 rebs, 3 assts; D. Brown 18 pts(5x17fg, 7x7ft), 9 rebs; D. Taft 12 pts(4x6fg, 2x4 3s). NP 23x61fg. K. Nelson 18 pts(8x14fg), 3 stls in 28'; M. Hauser 18 pts(8x17fg, 2x7 3s); L. Bertram 12 reb

   Cortland's W. Coston returns to lineup for limited duty after missing past two games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 16, 2008, 10:19:40 PM
Coming down the home stretch it looks like the Burg and Bport are favorites to meet in the finals!!! Will the Bears finish as the 6th seed and Oneonta the 7th? Will Buff St hold off Fredonia with a win on Tuesday? Lets hear some chatter. What's everyone's thoughts?

Personally I think that Oswego and Cortland's matchups with Bport are not good. Bport wins hands down. I want to believe the Eagles can beat the Burg but will have to play exceptional game and not many mistakes; missed foul shots, good decisions in the transition game, and some breaks. A. Williams is the difference maker in that game, has been before and will continue to be. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2008, 03:00:26 AM
There you go Bear! With a little help from your North Country travel partner the Potsdam Bears currently own the #6 seed in the SUNYAC tournament. Win out and it's yours. Beat SUNYIT and lose to Cortland would mean Buff St. has to win their last 3 games to take it away from you. I like the Bears chances.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2008, 11:45:33 AM

   In response to an inquiry a while back:

    Cortland 6-8, 260 promising fr C. Milke's absence appears to be from mono. Milke played in nearly every early season contest, averaging nearly 13'. Joins sophs M. Lewis and P. Oliver for imposing frontline down the line. Oliver in addition to yesterday's numbers had 6 assts. Fr. R. Evans as backcourt starter added 4 stls, 3 assts, 3x6 4s.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 17, 2008, 12:35:03 PM
With the season winding diwn, any thoughts on All-conference teams??  Here are my picks:

1st team
G-Anthony Williams (POY)
G-Sherod Harris
F-Scott Morton
G-Nick Pierioli
F-Travis Gorham

2nd team
F-Brandon Williams
G-Damon Brown
F-Mike Lewis
C-Jeff Howe
G-Tommy Downing

HM-
G-Mychael Wilkes
G-Ajani Edwards
F-Khylan Hunt
G-Robert Fisk
F-Will Colston
G-Jamar Gray
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
My Look:

First Team

Travis Gorham (POY) - makes everyone around him better
Anthony Williams 
Sherod Harris
Scott Morton
Mike Lewis

Second Team
Brandon Williams
Mahmoud Jabbi (rebounds, scores, play D)
Damon Brown
Nick Perioli
Dion Mozelle

HM
Rob Fisk
Jeff Howe
Khylan Hunt
Dave Golembiowski (ROY)
Mychal Wilkes

SUNYAC coaches in the past have tended to focus on scorers rather than all-around play.  Gorham is a complete D-III post player, he can score, rebound, pass, catch, and even shoot the three.  He averages a double-double and shoots 59% from two point range.  He is glue that holds the team together, he goes and gets Williams' misses and gives the Cards another chance to score.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2008, 01:28:01 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 14, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
Not from Potsdam - just beyond the 200 mile limit.

Stupid why games in NYC/NJ/PA (except NYU) don't count as in region.

Any game against a school in NYS or PA is in-region for Potsdam, actually.

http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php?question=44
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2008, 02:34:22 PM
Thanks - That's good (& a recent change), but a lot of New England is closer (230 miles) to Potsdam than the Pennsylvania border and they're out of region. 

Don't know why the limit isn't 400 miles, we play in a conference where the longest regualrly scheduled road trip is 401 miles by two lane and 454 by four lane.  Certainly if you're travelling 400 miles each way in your conference, your regional opponents should include teams in that radius.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2008, 02:46:02 PM
I think at this stage in the season, the Bears are taking it one game at a time.  As they should.

B/C of tiebreakers. they need a win (or Fredonia loss) to clinch a playoff spot. 

Regardless of 6,7, or 8 seed, none will be a treat, 'burgh, 'port & Oswego all tough venues for the visitors. 

Plattsburgh & Brockport both undefeated at home this year, while Oswego is 9-2 at Laker Hall (losses to Naz & 'port)

Bears play SUNYIT Friday night, suspect 3's will be launched from all points. 

Cards at Cortland, which will be their biggest challenge to a undefeated regular season.

Teams reverse Saturday afternoon.  SUNYAC two games in 20 hours Fri/Sat one of the reasons it's so hard to go undefeated in this conference. No time to recover before the next tip, particularly with 1-2 hour trips Friday after games.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 17, 2008, 06:28:05 PM
Anthony Williams is the best player in the conference.  If he wants he will be playing somewhere for money next year.  Gorham doesnt seem to work hard all the time.  I know he scores and rebounds but just imagine if he worked hard all the time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 17, 2008, 07:48:56 PM
"...Gorham doesnt seem to work hard all the time.  I know he scores and rebounds but just imagine if he worked hard all the time..."

You don't get double doubles in Points and rebounds by conserving energy and not working hard.  Travis isn't a point guard, he HAS to work to get open so he gets the ball. Same with Khylan Hunt.   We used to keep track of another statistic called DEFLECTIONS.  You get one for every time you touch a pass, steal a ball, or make a defensive play that causes the player with the ball to lose it.  Not all steals are created by the player who ends up with the ball.   Blocked shots also count.  I would be willing to guess that Travis and Khylan probably average over 10 deflections each per game.  Just looking at Travis he averages just under 2 blocks a game and 2 steals a game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2008, 02:31:58 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 17, 2008, 02:46:02 PM
I think at this stage in the season, the Bears are taking it one game at a time.  As they should.

B/C of tiebreakers. they need a win (or Fredonia loss) to clinch a playoff spot. 

Regardless of 6,7, or 8 seed, none will be a treat, 'burgh, 'port & Oswego all tough venues for the visitors. 

Plattsburgh & Brockport both undefeated at home this year, while Oswego is 9-2 at Laker Hall (losses to Naz & 'port)

Bears play SUNYIT Friday night, suspect 3's will be launched from all points. 

Cards at Cortland, which will be their biggest challenge to a undefeated regular season.

Teams reverse Saturday afternoon.  SUNYAC two games in 20 hours Fri/Sat one of the reasons it's so hard to go undefeated in this conference. No time to recover before the next tip, particularly with 1-2 hour trips Friday after games.




Bear,

I think you're being a little cautious in your concern about Fredonia possibly taking a playoff spot away from the Bears. Fredonia won't even make the playoffs. Buffalo St. should take care of that problem on Tuesday night. And the game the Bears need to win is the SUNYIT game on Friday, the 1st of the weekend contests when Potsdam should be fresh and ready. The biggest challenge to the Bears grabbing the sixth seed is Buff. St upsetting Oswego, winning their last three and finishing at 7-9 which would tie Potsdam if the Bears beat SUNYIT and lose to Cortland. The Bengals also hold the tiebreaker over the Bears. Of course the Bears could win both weekend road games and make everything else a moot point.  So far 6 straight games have played out the way I wrote them up back on the 12th of Feb. You gotta have faith, brother!!

And the Bears chances of pulling off an upset in the tournament are much better against Oswego than Plattsburgh or Bport. After all you only lost by 2 down there in November, and if it  had been a little closer at halftime, who knows? You need that 6th seed. So get the guys pumped for Friday night. You need to find Dr. Lou Lagrand and have him give one of his motivational speeches to the team. That would do it!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2008, 02:40:40 AM
And Bear, no Siskavich for 2 straight games. Will he be playing this weekend? Please tell me the answer is yes. He had a decent game against the Plattsburgh bigs. He'll certainly be needed against Cortland's front line.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2008, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 17, 2008, 02:34:22 PM
Thanks - That's good (& a recent change), but a lot of New England is closer (230 miles) to Potsdam than the Pennsylvania border and they're out of region. 

Don't know why the limit isn't 400 miles, we play in a conference where the longest regualrly scheduled road trip is 401 miles by two lane and 454 by four lane.  Certainly if you're travelling 400 miles each way in your conference, your regional opponents should include teams in that radius.

Anyone in the corner of a map is going to have anomalies. Why is it that you can drive eight hours one direction and still be in New York, while in another direction you cross five states? :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 18, 2008, 02:06:09 PM
Cards7580

He is a very good player but he does not work hard all the time.  As a team they dont work hard all the time.  They are a team that could go a long way in the tournament but  I think they can get picked off because of their effort, they play in spurts.  Miller is the only consistant hard work.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 18, 2008, 02:12:15 PM
"...Anyone in the corner of a map is going to have anomalies. Why is it that you can drive eight hours one direction and still be in New York, while in another direction you cross five states?..."

And in one part of the United STates you can stand and touch 4 states in four steps.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2008, 06:44:10 PM
You need to find Dr. Lou Lagrand and have him give one of his motivational speeches to the team. That would do it!!!
[/quote]

You mean the one where he put his fist [Ouch] through the locker door?

We did have our alumni game this weekend.  'Spoon came back.  (Only two-time D-III POY) guy is 45 years old and 50 pounds above his playing weight, but he can still play with the 20 somethings, shoot the NBA range three, and make a 55 foot bounce pass assist on the break.  Boy I forgot how great that used to be.  Barton, Connelly, & Turner from Elite 8 team were all back, all well on their way to successful careers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on February 18, 2008, 07:08:46 PM
Sorry I've been away from the board for awhile...   Somebody explain to me (like I was a nine year old) to quote Denzel in Philadelphia- how Morrisville can lose in OT to the worst college team I've seen all year - Albany Pharm and then stay within ten of the Lakers.   Man I guess there is parity in d-3 hoops!!?? :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 18, 2008, 08:05:54 PM
Basketball is a funny game--It all depends on the night, effort wise, shot selection, defense and mentality of players involved. That's how an Albany Pharm stays with M-ville in D3.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2008, 09:19:13 PM








Quote from: with age comes? on February 18, 2008, 07:08:46 PM
Sorry I've been away ro the board for awhile...   Somebody explain to me (like I was a nine year old) to quote Denzel in Philadelphia- how Morrisville can lose in OT to the worst college team I've seen all year - Albany Pharm and then stay within ten of the Lakers.   Man I guess there is parity in d-3 hoops!!?? :o

Morrisville gives up about 80 pts per game. Usually resulting in a loss. Most of the good teams they play get up by 20 or 30 and then empty the bench. Lots of garbage time pts. get scored making some games appear closer than they really were. Hoisting up a lot of 3's will also skew the final score. The old live by or die by thing. Not sure in this case but I agree with you those two games  sure make you wonder.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2008, 09:45:22 PM
Quote from: with age comes? on February 18, 2008, 07:08:46 PM
Sorry I've been away ro the board for awhile...   Somebody explain to me (like I was a nine year old) to quote Denzel in Philadelphia- how Morrisville can lose in OT to the worst college team I've seen all year - Albany Pharm and then stay within ten of the Lakers.   Man I guess there is parity in d-3 hoops!!?? :o

With Central NY refs, as Zola likes to point out, anything is possible.  Although in this case, they won the game for Oswego which made 19 more FT's.  Perioli & Jabbi, probably Oswego's two best players, shot a combined 10 for 34 (ugh!)  Take a lickin & keep chucking.

Turnovers were Oswego 8 Morrisville 21, Fouls were Oswego 25, Oswego 12.  Both smack of referee involvement.

Most college teams don't win shooting 34% (those were the FGA's they weren't fouled on).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2008, 09:49:01 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 18, 2008, 06:44:10 PM
You need to find Dr. Lou Lagrand and have him give one of his motivational speeches to the team. That would do it!!!

You mean the one where he put his fist [Ouch] through the locker door?

We did have our alumni game this weekend.  'Spoon came back.  (Only two-time D-III POY) guy is 45 years old and 50 pounds above his playing weight, but he can still play with the 20 somethings, shoot the NBA range three, and make a 55 foot bounce pass assist on the break.  Boy I forgot how great that used to be.  Barton, Connelly, & Turner from Elite 8 team were all back, all well on their way to successful careers.
[/quote]


Great to hear about Leroy. I used to travel over from Plattsburgh on a regular basis to see the Bears play during those two years. Talk about a guy who could do it all. If D3Hoops was around back then and they had an all decade team he would be near the top of the list. I remember watching him play as a freshman and knew we were seeing something special.
Dr. Lagrand certainly knew how to ratchet up the intensity. Defense was the name of the game with him. If the other team scored 60 points he was not a happy camper. His teams always ranked near the top in pts. allowed.

Got your e-mail and understand. Thanks.

And I think you meant Morrisville 25 and Oswego 12 on those called fouls.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on February 18, 2008, 11:08:45 PM
Ya I hear you guys about the refs.. got another one for you..   Clarkson outscores Hamilton from the field, from the three, has fewer turnovers, more steals, more offensive rebounds but loses the game by 17 points because Hamilton shoots 48 free throws and outscores Clarkson by 22 points from the stripe and THIS WAS ON CLARKSON'S HOME COURT!!! If I didn't know better I'd swear Tobin Anderson (Hamilton's coach) had pictures....   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2008, 09:38:15 AM

  SUNYIT 94, Cazenovia 74 from Monday ......IT 34x78fg, 21x33ft, 66-40reb. 52-44 by half. D. Moore 24 pts, 10 rebs; D. Golembiowski 17 ts. 14 rebs; D. Hahn 15 pts, 20 rebs; A. Edwards 18 pts, 8assts. Caz 12-12 went 28x77fg, 10x23ft.
   ITs wind up SUNYAC career this week  .......

   Lou `The Grand' learned it all from Pete Corey at Cortland in the 50s.  Outstanding player!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2008, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 19, 2008, 09:38:15 AM
   Lou `The Grand' learned it all from Pete Corey at Cortland in the 50s.  Outstanding player!

Wow, jdex I thought I was old! You must be older than dirt!  ;)

I didn't know who Lou's mentor was, but he had to have been a good one. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2008, 09:25:27 AM

   Older!! And feeling it these days. About to go on the DL.

    But those were fun days up on the hill at Moffett. Bosco Condie et al. Pete Corey recently passed.

    From Tuesday: Fredonia spills Buffalo St. 79-70. BS has 29-28 edge. Freds then on 11-0 tear. B. Cooper 29 pts(9x13fg, 9x11ft), 6 reb, 5 stls; R. Buckmon 23 pts(12x12ft). Devils 25x48fg(15x25 2nd half), 24x31ft, 25 trnvrs. BS 26x61fg(14x35 2nd half), 13x24ft, 21 trnvrs. J. Tyndal 21 pts, 6 assts; J. Gray 20 pts

    Morrisville undressed by D'Youville 93-72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2008, 11:20:06 PM

     Oswego races by SUNYIT 81-65. M. Jabbi 26 pts(11x17fg), 13 rebs; N. Perioli 16 pts(7x14fg), 3 assts; K. Reuter15 pts; T. Downing 14 pts; D. White 11 rebs. OSt 33x67fg, 46 rebs. IT down 45-32 at half. 26x70fg. D. Moore 21 pts(9x18fg), 9 rebs; A. Edwrds 13 pts, 7 assts; D. Golembiowski 11 pts(4x14fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2008, 01:01:34 AM
Quote from: jdex on February 20, 2008, 09:25:27 AM

   Older!! And feeling it these days. About to go on the DL.

Sorry to hear that. Hope its only the 15 day DL.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 21, 2008, 10:15:17 PM
The Burg will be tested at Cortland but matchups favor the Burg.---By 12!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2008, 03:43:27 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 21, 2008, 10:15:17 PM
The Burg will be tested at Cortland but matchups favor the Burg.---By 12!!!

I hope you're right but I think it will be closer than that. Cards up by 4 or 5 before some clinching free throws in the final seconds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2008, 02:58:38 PM
Tonight's SUNYAC slate:

Morrisville @ Buff State – Bengals tied with Fredonia for last playoff spot.  Trap game, as Buff St. will be looking ahead to Oswego tomorrow night.  Bengals should prevail.

Plattsburgh @ Cortland – 'burgh trying to protect an undefeated season.  Home court for playoffs secure with one win this weekend.  Cortland played 'burgh tough up North.  Dragons need one win vs. NC teams to lock up #4 seed.

Oswego @ Fredonia – Oswego holds tiebreaker over Cortland for #3 seed.  Chalk says Lakers should prevail easily, but both teams have three games this week.  Tired legs & long bus rides in snow country lead to interesting results.

Potsdam @ SUNYIT – IT has great offensive firepower, so Bears need to focus on one game at a time.  Last weekend for Wildcats in the SUNYAC, know Grimmer boys would like to chalk up a couple of late season W's.  Bears rotation has key elements missing in the last few games, so lineup that takes the floor will have to get it done.  D. Brown & A. Dike both playing at a very high level.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2008, 08:46:52 PM
Plattsburgh St. 26 Cortland St. 20 at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2008, 09:02:47 PM
SUNYIT 55 Potsdam 54 with about 12 mins left 2 H.

B. Siskavich has 14 for Potsdam after missing last two games.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2008, 09:17:46 PM
Potsdam leads SUNYIT 69 -60 with 6:30 left in the 2nd Half.

Bears in the Double Bonus.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2008, 09:24:12 PM
Potsdam leads 72-68 with 3:02 left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2008, 09:28:39 PM
Plattsburgh 53- Cortland 49 50 secs left
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Post by: magicman on February 22, 2008, 09:30:05 PM
Plattsburgh 53 Cortland 51 with 37 secs. left.  Plattsburgh ball
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2008, 09:31:31 PM
Bears 81, SUNYIT 72 with 1:02 left

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2008, 09:37:57 PM
Potsdam leads 87-77 with :32 left.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2008, 09:40:35 PM
Final Score

Potsdam 89 - 79 Bears move to 7-8 in SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2008, 09:44:57 PM
Plattsburgh St. 56        Cortland St. 53   Final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
Plattsburgh St. goes to 15-0 in the SUNYAC with a tight 56-53 decision over Cortland St. Cortland with a chance to tie has the ball with 16 secs. left but only manages an off balance 3 at the buzzer. Cards gain the upper hand late in the 1st half with an 11-2 run to grab a 26-20 lead at the break. Open up the 2nd period with another 11-3 run to go up by 14 37-23. Red Dragons nip away and are down by 6 with 4 mins left, but Cards back up by 9 at 51-42 with 2:15 remaining, only to have Cortland come back and cut it to 2 53-51 with 45 secs left. 2 FT's by Antwane MIller with 16 secs. provided the final margin of victory. Anthony Williams once again led the Cardinals with 14pts. and 9 rebounds, followed by Khylan Hunt with 13 pts. and 6 boards. Travis Gorham had another double-double with 11 pts. and 13 rebounds. Cortland was paced by Carson Niehoff who led all scorers with 19 pts. Mike Lewis chipped in with 8 pts. and 8 boards and Will Coston added 8pts.

Plattsburgh wins their 14th straight game to stretch their overall record to 22-2, surpassed only by Centre's 22-1 slate.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsportsfan on February 22, 2008, 11:50:50 PM
Fredonia 67  Oswego 64

Buff State 94  Morrisville 63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2008, 12:02:44 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 22, 2008, 09:40:35 PM
Final Score

Potsdam 89 - 79 Bears move to 7-8 in SUNYAC.


And clinch the 6th seed in the playoffs with that win. I told you not to worry. Glad to see Siskavich in the lineup. Nice contribution as well. Looks like you'll be in Oswego on Tueday. Can't see them losing both of their remaining games to fall to 4th. On the other hand I just saw the upset posted by Fredonia over the Lakers. Now they need to win against Buff St. on Sat. night unless Potsdam beats Cortland .

I still think the 1st round of the playoffs on Tuesday Feb 26th shape up like this :

#8 Fredonia St. at #1 Plattsburgh
#7 Oneonta St. at #2 Brockport St.
#6 Potsdam St. at #3 Oswego St.
#5 Geneseo St. at #4 Cortland St.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2008, 01:05:23 AM


    Fredonia takes big step to playoff berth with home upset of Oswego. Freds 32-31 at half; tied at 60 when B. Cooper hoop at 3:07 casts Devils in lead for keeps. OSt misses twice near buzzer. Freds 30x48fg AND 1x8ft (make at 0:00.1). K. Gordon 18 pts(9x11fg), 8 rebs; W. Davis 14 pts, 3 stls; K. Saunders 11 pts; R. Buckmon 10 pts. Laker N. Perioli 20 pts(5x14fg, 1x6 3s, 9x9ft), 4 assts, 5 stls; T. Downing 17 pts (5x9fg -- all 3s); D. White 11 pts; M. Jabbi 4 pts, 7 rebs, 4pf in 20'. Osw 21x55fg, 8x22 3s
     Sat: Freds host Mville, BS at Oswego

     Buffalo State has Mville panting at 49-22 halftime. Buffs 35x81fg, 58 rebs. A. Samedi 18 pts(7x11fg) in 23'; J. Gray 14 pts(5x9fg) in 25'; J. Tyndal 10 rebs, 7 assts, 3 stls. Stangs 19x66fg, 25 trnvrs. T. Foster 18 pts(5x12fg); J. McCants 14 pts(5x11fg)

     Potsdam up 72-68 at 3:45 and has 9-2 run featuring four D. Brown FTs on IT double tech. Tech ahead 34-32 midway. Bears 27x63fg, 30x43ft, 45 reb. D. Brown 20 pts(5x13fg, 9x10ft), 9 rebs; T. Reinhardt 19 pts(6x11fg, 7x7ft); B. Siskavich 16 pts(6x8fg) in 17'; A. Dike 11 pts, 8 rebs. IT 29x75fg, 18x23ft. A. Edwards 16 pts(6x16fg); D. Hahn 14 pts, 9 rebs; D. Moore 11 pts, 11 rebs; D. Golembiowski 11 pts, 7 rebs; L-K Miller 10 pts

      Plattsburgh 21x55fg to Corts 20x69 including 7x36 1st half. Williams 5x20fg, 9 rebs, fouls out in final minute; Gorham 5x10fg and 11 pts, 15 rebs; Hunt 4x8fg in 13 pts, 6 rebs. Niehoff 5x13fg, 3x8 3s, 6x6ft. Coston 8 pts(3x13fg), 4 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 23, 2008, 07:41:34 AM
Spoon was  a great Potsdam player.   1- 2 between Derrick Rowland and Leroy Witherspoon.  One can go either way. When we were making the great run in    85-86.  The college showed the 80-81 championship game in the Union.  The      80-81 game was on ESPN, back in the day ESPN showed the D3 championship game.  The Union was packed.  When he hit that shot at the buzzer the place went nuts. This was 5 years later and we knew the outcome. 
Oh by the way he was only a freshman in 80-81 wasn't POY until 82-83 and 83-84. Spoon was 2xPOY and still didn't have a problem hanging out with us next to a beer ball.  He is a class act.
Maybe they can bring out the tape from either championship game or maybe the 1 point lose to North Park in 84-85.  The team this year can make another great run.
GO BEARS!!!

PS I saw on the Potsdam web that they have a bus going to the hockey game at Pburgh. Once GO BEARS!!!
Any win against Plattsburgh is a great victory.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2008, 10:11:42 AM
SUNYAC Saturday Afternoon - All four home sites decided, but opponents still TBD.

Oswego @ Buff State
Lakers upset last night vs. Fredonia, Need a win to hang on to the three seed.

Potsdam @ Cortland
Cortland coming off a tough loss to Plattsburgh, Bears have won 3 straight.  Cortland needs a win to have a shot at a three seed

Morrisville @ Fredonia
Fredonia win last night give them a straight path to #8 seed.  Morrisville in a three way tie for last place in the conference.

Plattsburgh @ SUNYIT
Plattsburgh coach Curle was head man at IT before moving to his alma mater.  IT has talent, but not always on the same page.  Both teams had tough games last night & short turnaround.  Burgh wants regular season perfecto.

Brockport @ Geneseo
Intramural rivalry.  "port has been playing well & taking no prisoners.  They beat you early & don't let anyone off the deck.
Geneseo a quality team with good bigs & Scott Morton, but maybe not enough quickness to handle Sherod Harris.  Geneseo locked into a 5 seed, will play either Cortland or Oswego.

Oneonta @ New Paltz
Oneonta locked into a 7 seed and contemplating a visit to Tuttle North on Tuesday.  Travel partner rivalry, Hawks playing for pride.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2008, 05:15:07 PM
Potsdam 35 Cortland 35 17:00 left in 2nd @ Cortland.  Cortland opened up 12-2, Bears have clawed back.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2008, 05:32:05 PM
Potsdam & Cortland tied at 49 - 6:30 left 2nd, Cortland Ball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2008, 05:41:38 PM
Cortland on an 11-2 run leads Potsdam 57-51 with 4 left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2008, 05:48:27 PM
Potsdam leads 60-59 with under two left.  Cortland at the line for 2 shots.


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Post by: thebear on February 23, 2008, 05:56:18 PM
Will Coston hits a three with :19 left to put Cortland up by 1.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2008, 06:02:28 PM

  Cortland over Potsdam 66-63 on Coston `three' at about 0:20 and M. Schaller two FTs at :05 following D. Brown and B. Siskavich fg misfires. Even at half at 31
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2008, 06:10:57 PM


      Fredonia clinches final playoff berth with 78-60 stopping of Morrisville

      Plattsburgh 86, SUNYIT 75
      Oswego 92, Buffalo St. 67

      Tonight: Brockport at Geneseo, Oneonta at New Paltz
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2008, 07:13:44 PM

    Cortland's Coston hits pair of go-ahead free throws prior to game-changing trey. A. Dike had come up big previously in Potsdam reversal. Corts 22x66fg, 7x19 3s. Coston far from being thrown under the bus, netting 14 pts(5x11fg, 2x3 3s) in 28'; C. Niehoff 11 pts(3x13fg), 3assts; R Evans 10 pts(3x8fg, 3x5 3s); J. Miolen 3 assts; M. Schaller 3 of CSt 11 stls; M. Lewis 8 pts, 8 rebs, 5pf in 28' Pdam 21x58fg, 5x16 3s, 48-40 reb. Dike 18 pts(6x14fg), 12 rebs; D. brown 11 pts(4x13fg), 10 rebs, 5 assts; B. Graney 11 pts(4x7fg); T. Reinhardt 10 pts, 9 rebs, 5 pf

     Oswego romps to 54-30 (19x35fg) halftime bulge. Lakers 33x71fg, 9x24 3s; 45 rebs. K. Reuter 20 pts(7x11fg), 3 assts; T. Downing 20 pts(7x17fg, 4x9 3s), 4 assts, 3 stls; M. Jabbi 16 pts(6x13fg), 12 rebs; D. White 13 pts, 14 rebs, 4 assts; N. Perioli 10 pts(3x13fg). BS 27x65fg, 0x9 3s. D. Mozelle 16 pts(8x17fg); J. Tundal 13 pts(5x9fg); J. Gray 13 pts(5x9fg)

    Fredonia overcomes 35-24 Morrisville lead at half by sinking 17x25fg over final 20'. Freds 29x52fg, 11x24 3s. B. Cooper 18 pts(6x11fg, 4x6 3s), 4 assts, 2 stls; K. Gordon 17 pts(7x9fg), 6 rebs; W. Davis 4 assts. Mville's W. Jackson 14 pts(6x14fg); T. Armstead 12 pts(5x7fg); J. McCants 11 pts, 9 rebs. Stangs 25x58fg

    Plattsburgh perfection (16-0!!!) arrives at SUNYIT expense; 41-33 at the break. Cards 32x69fg, 11x31 3s. A. Williams 27 pts(9x25fg, 3x15 3s), 6 assts; R. Rider 19 pts(7x9fg, 4x6 3s) in 25'; T. Gorham 17 pts(7x12fg), 15 rebs; C.Ruiz 12 pts(4x7fg). IT 29x66fg, 1x12 3s. D. Moore 22 pts(7x17fg), 12 rebs; A. Edwards 21 pts(9x18fg) 4 assts, 3 stls; D. Golembiowski 11 pts(5x9fg)
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Post by: Cards7580 on February 23, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
Just back from Utica after seeing Plattsburgh win 16th straight SUNYAC game this season.

What a difference 16 hours makes.  A defensive slug fest vs Cortland on Friday night and then
today's up and down slashing, driving, shots going up from all over the place.     The tall freshman  Golembowski was not a factor and got more than half  of his points well after the game was decided.  #44 and #30 Moore and Edwards or visa versa, have great offensive talent, but can't guard anybody. 

200th NCAA win for Tom Curle.  Many former players from his IT days were there for an Alumni game that followed.  IT would be dangerous team if they learn to play defense. 

Ricky Rider was on fire, and scored at will. Good defense also.  it was Everybody Plays Everybody Scores day for Plattsburgh, but I  believe two guys were hurting and as much as they tried a couple or three of the bench guys didn't score.   Anthony Williams came away from game with scratched wrists. Looked like a cat attached him.  Not to mention the other times he was planted into the floor on drives to the hoop.
Lance Darrell had a volleyball kill like block in the 2nd half.  All ball Straight down to the ground block that woke up the crowd.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 23, 2008, 09:49:49 PM
"....PS I saw on the Potsdam web that they have a bus going to the hockey game at Pburgh. Once GO BEARS!!!  Any win against Plattsburgh is a great victory...."

Plattsburgh 6   :o   Potsdam Teddy Bears 0   :-*
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsportsfan on February 23, 2008, 09:52:16 PM
Geneseo 72  Brockport 62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2008, 10:48:19 PM
I still think the 1st round of the playoffs on Tuesday Feb 26th shape up like this :

#8 Fredonia St. at #1 Plattsburgh
#7 Oneonta St. at #2 Brockport St.
#6 Potsdam St. at #3 Oswego St.
#5 Geneseo St. at #4 Cortland St.

As I stated last night here's the playoff matchups for Tuesday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob Maxwell on February 23, 2008, 10:50:33 PM
They should flip Fredonia and Oneonta trips to save gas....  game results will end up the same, won't they?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2008, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: Bob Maxwell on February 23, 2008, 10:50:33 PM
They should flip Fredonia and Oneonta trips to save gas....  game results will end up the same, won't they?

Good point, Bob.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2008, 10:58:35 PM
     Geneseo holds lead for good late in first half which winds up 29-25. In charge throughout final stanza by as much as 14 with 8' left. Knights 26x45fg, 18x27ft. J. Kling 19 pts(5x9fg, 8x8ft) 4 assts, 4 stls, 8 trnvrs; T. Kitson 14 pts(5x8fg); J. Howe 14 pts(6x8fg); S. Morton 11 assts, 7 rebs, 4 pts(2x7fg), 5pf in 36'; B. Simpson 12 pts(5x6fg) in 15'. Port 18x55fg, 11x29 3s, 27-35reb. Sherod Harris 13 pts(3x12fg, 3x9 3s) 4 assts, 5pf in 36'; M. Wilkes 11 pts(4x14fg, 3x8 3s) in 33'; D. Maldonado 11 pts(3x6fg all 3s) in 15'

     Oneonta thrashes New Paltz 74-50. All 15 OSters dressed score. Go 27x65fg, 17x37 enroute to 41-26 first half lead. M. Grimes 15 pts(6x7fg) 7 rebs; R. Fisk 13 pts(5x11fg, 3x7 3s. NP 19x48fg. M. Hauser 14 pts(6x9fg); L. Bertram 11 pts, 8 rebs; V. Alvarez 11 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2008, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: bsportsfan on February 23, 2008, 09:52:16 PM
Geneseo 72  Brockport 62

I guess it's true. Hard to beat a team 3 times in a season. I guess the Golden Eagles didn't have much to play for once Plattsburgh clinched the top seed last night. Hope the loss doesn't come back to haunt them if they need a Pool C bid to make the NCAA's.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 24, 2008, 12:18:56 AM
CP -

Tenn - Memphis was great. Did you notice that the Tenn dude traveled on his game winning field goal? He was pivoting on his left foot, then with his left shoulder to the basket he pulled his left foot back before setting and shooting. But who was watching?

After watching back-to-back Cortland Sate games this weekend, I needed a good one tonight. Cortland lost at home to Plattsburg 56-53, who finished their conference schedule unbeaten. This afternoon, Cortland beat Potsdam 53-50. Both games proved that close games can be poorly played, poorly coached, and poorly officiated. Ugliness - it's everywhere, Chickenman. Turnovers, bricks, lumbering play, whiney coaches, whiney players, holds, grabs, trips, flailing arms and elbows, passes to imaginary teammates, and shots at apparently imaginary rims. And it wasn't defense that held down the scoring in these games.

Did enjoy watching Mike Lewis and Carson Neimoff (sp) both games. If Spanbauer can find someone to feed Lewis in the post and give him the green light to shoot an occasional 3, he'll will be a very difficult match-up in this league. Right now, when he works open down low (frequently), the Dragons rarely display the ability to get him the ball. When he steps outside the arc, also frequently, his defender sags off because he apparently does not have "authorization" to shoot outside 12 ft. Not this weekend.

Maybe next year.

Was looking forward to seeing Plattsburg's Williams, He made a few really fine drives  Friday but was in foul trouble much of the game, shot selection from the field was really pornographic, and he played uninspired defense much of the game. Plattsburg generally played better without him except when Curle asked his troops to run clock with nearly nine minutes remaining in the game with Williams in foul trouble. Here's a surprise. Plattsburg stalled, stopped playing aggressively, turned the ball over, forced poor shots late in the clock and Cortland got back in the game.

The highlight of both games was the half-time show featuring two dance ensembles, one, an amazing high kicking line, and one that I can't describe here. They were followed by a baton twirler who blew everyone's doors off with a fantastic routine. Finally, the Cortland Red Dragon earned raves and is the indisputable Mascot-among-Mascots in the SUNYAC. No tongue in cheek here - half-time was great.

On to the tournament. Even with an undefeated Plattsburg, and a Brockport team that just doesn't consistently maintain focus, I'm pulling for the Golden Eagles. They've got the most talent for some level of tournament success. Now, if the will pay attention for 40 minutes...

Finally, after complaining about the Aud for years, I may have to deal with the finals in the Plattsburg cracker box. Be careful what you wish for. Let's hope they show the game closed circuit on campus or many are likely to get totally shut out.

Good luck to all in the the playoffs. Play with passion.

Thanks to the regulars for informative posts throughout the season.

Go to Salem. You'll have a great time.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2008, 12:20:59 AM
Quote from: Cards7580 on February 23, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
Just back from Utica after seeing Plattsburgh win 16th straight SUNYAC game this season.

What a difference 16 hours makes.  A defensive slug fest vs Cortland on Friday night and then
today's up and down slashing, driving, shots going up from all over the place.     The tall freshman  Golembowski was not a factor and got more than half  of his points well after the game was decided. 

Cards,
Dave Golembiowski of SUNYIT scored 11 pts. in the game with 6 of them coming in the 1st half. He scored a jumper 20 secs into the 2nd half and hit a 3 pointer with 15:29 left in the game to make the score 52-45. I know he didn't score 30 but don't make his contribution less than what it was.  He also had 9 boards 1 block & 1 steal. Certainly not earth shattering but better than any of Cortland's bigs could do against Travis & Khylan the night before. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 24, 2008, 12:25:42 AM
Apologize for miskeying the score on the Cortland-Potsdam game.

Was a mess nonetheless.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 24, 2008, 12:54:25 AM
For all the hype and numbers I wasn't impressed.   3 of his rebounds were long ones off missed 3 pointers and two were off of missed foul shots. The other big guy #52 and #50 were doing most of the pounding and physical activity.  Golembowski played the top of a zone defense (matchup). Impressive footwork for a 6'7" 8" freshman with an equally WIDE wingspan.  Very quiet 11 points for 37 minutes of play.

I also think Kylan Hunt was playing on a bad ankle that he twisted against Cortland the night before.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 24, 2008, 12:57:12 AM
"...and one that I can't describe here...:"   

I would tend to agree.  Not sure what those pair(s) were doing in the very front toward the end of the program.  Maybe that's why that lady was taken away by the medical staff.   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on February 24, 2008, 02:16:05 AM
Does anyone have the pairings for the SUNYAC tournament? Plattsburg seems to be right there, but it could still be fun!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 24, 2008, 08:08:18 AM
Magic--I hope that the Geneseo loss won't hurt the Eagles Pool C chances too. They definitely need to make the SUNY finals to possibly get a berth now. They are very talented and, as zola said, would probably do well in the NCAA's as they have the experience and understanding to compete at that level. They better just go out and win the SUNY's and have no question whether they are going or not!!!!Good luck Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 24, 2008, 08:11:37 AM
Congrats to the Burg--16-0 super regular season!! Now the super season starts---Good Eagles!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 24, 2008, 11:13:17 AM
Other than Plattsburgh, I think it's pretty safe to say that Geneseo may bethe hottest team in the conference heading into the tourny.  Big win over Bport last night in which they basically controlled the game from start to finish and 7-1 down the stretch with Kitson back in the lineup.  Lets not forget that their midseason struggles came with him out of the lineup, and as a senior and 1 of there big 4, his importance can't be undervalued.  Good luck to th Knights in the tourny...it should be a great week in the 'Yac!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2008, 11:22:37 AM

"They should flip Fredonia and Oneonta trips to save gas....  game results will end up the same, won't they?"

    Max-man, You sound like an NCAA tourney official ......LOL ....

    SJFcards: Check previous page for pairings .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 24, 2008, 08:06:07 PM
Here's what the Plattsburgh Athletics site says about ticket distribution for the possible THREE different conference championship games to be played in their arenas.

http://www.plattsburgh.edu/athletics/cardathletics/tickets.php

For basketball it is 1000 tickets to be sold.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 24, 2008, 08:08:50 PM
I'll send an email to the athletic department and the Sports Information dept.

"...Finally, after complaining about the Aud for years, I may have to deal with the finals in the Plattsburg cracker box. Be careful what you wish for. Let's hope they show the game closed circuit on campus or many are likely to get totally shut out..."

They have the capability to do this through the communications department.  It also has been done in the past. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 24, 2008, 08:57:14 PM
With thanks to Josh Reilly, SUNYAC Publicist,

Before this year's Plattsburgh team, the last SUNYAC team to go through a regular season undefeated was Potsdam in 1988-89, when they went 10-0 to win the East Division.  This was a stretch where the Bears had 43 wins in 44 SUNYAC games from November 85- February 89.

Congrats to the Cards for a well-earned regular season championship.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsportsfan on February 25, 2008, 10:05:30 AM
Men's and women's brackets posted at www.sunyac.com.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 25, 2008, 09:48:16 PM
I hear that SUNY Plattssburgh is going to put skyboxes and stadium seating in the hockey field house.  This must be the next step for the hockey team to move to the  Division I level.  I'm really surprised this hasn't happened yet.  Why does the hockey team plays in a beautiful 3000+ stadium while the basketball team(SUNYAC tournamnent) plays in a dudgeon downtown?  Why hasn't the college ever fixed the field house gym to make it suitable to play a high level basketball game?  Basketball will always take a back seat to hockey at SUNY plattsburgh.  Hockey #1,  Basketball #5.  Look at all the improvements the college has made over the last decade and still nothing for the basketball team.  One of the earlier poster said Plattsburgh graduates all of their student-athletes.  Can you tell us what percent of the hockey team graduates from Plattsburgh? Maybe you can cut and paste this and put faces and numbers.  That is so creative.  I would like a star too!
If anyone drives to Plattsburgh and has to watch the game on a TV in the field house please let us know or ask yourself why there is no basketball court in there?
I watched the sectionII high school tournament at HVCC less year.  Their gym hold over 3000 and this is a 2 year community college.  Never been to Morrisville, until last year they were a 2 year school. I bet that their gym is better then the one at Plattsburgh!!  Plattsburgh is a state school!  What is the name on the field house and who was he?  They could have a first class place to play basketball.  No instead drive 400 miles to watch the game on TV! Thats not even crazy its insane!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2008, 10:13:30 PM
'burgh's Field House is named for the late Sen. Ron Stafford, who for many years chaired the higher ed committee in the State Senate and was instrumental in funding the growth of SUNY during the Rockefeller years.

Don't think Plattsburgh will go D-I hockey.  Already a moratorium on that, Clarkson & SLU had to wage quite a fight to keep D-I in one sport & D-III in others.  The 8 or 10 schools that do this (Union & RPI are others) are grandfathered, but the NCAA basically says no mas, If you want D-I scholarships, you have to go all the way in all your sports. 

With Plattsburgh's economic base and SUNY's athletic fee structure (increase limited to the higher education CPI), funding for full scholarships tough to find, and out of D-I schools in the East playing hockey, SUNY 4 years (with all due respect to the fact that you & I are grads of that fine system) near the bottom of the prestige ladder. - Full Ride to SLU now worth nearly $200K vs. $70 at SUNY - where would you go? 

Memorial Hall is a 1964ish Standard SUNY Gym, like those at Geneseo (Schrader), Fredonia (Dodds) etc.  They did replace the floor a few years ago.  Other SUNY Schools also using older wood floored gyms, as rubber floors are a major injury risk.

Stafford Field House at Plattsburgh is like the one at Maxcy with a rubber floor, and the floor is bubbled in spots, so not safe to play, or desirable, as sight lines in these field houses are terrible for shooters. Cost for a portable floor is about $250 K for a decent one, and still not as good as playing on an integrated hardwood floor. (Remember the famous "dead spots" on the parquet ar Boston Garden). 

SUNY was running out of money at the time Stafford was built.  We had just opened Maxcy, but many programs were being cut in the '73-74-75 time frame, and Plattsburgh was basically told to make a decision, and they put their bucks into hockey.  I was the student financial rep for athletics at Potsdam during that time, and remember the tradeoffs that had to be made to get a wooden floor and good bleachers into the gym at Maxcy.  That's why the concrete blocks were bare in Maxcy for so long.

As Zola said, everyone bitched about playing in the Utica Aud, but now that we're faced with a battle of the titans in a tiny gym, Utica doesn't seem so bad.  I'm sure Brockport would rather be playing in Utica than in Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2008, 11:12:49 PM
Plattsburgh State Cardinals achieve their highest ever ranking in the D3Hoops Top 25 poll moving up 1 spot to # 10. They amassed a total of 411 points but are only 12 points out of 6th place. Augustana was 9th with 416, UW-Stevens Point 8th with 419, Washington U. 7th with 422, and Brandeis 6th with 423. Next week could bring more upward movement if they get it done this weekend. Go Cards!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2008, 12:26:32 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2008, 10:13:30 PM
'burgh's Field House is named for the late Sen. Ron Stafford, who for many years chaired the higher ed committee in the State Senate and was instrumental in funding the growth of SUNY during the Rockefeller years.

Don't think Plattsburgh will go D-I hockey.  Already a moratorium on that, Clarkson & SLU had to wage quite a fight to keep D-I in one sport & D-III in others.  The 8 or 10 schools that do this (Union & RPI are others) are grandfathered, but the NCAA basically says no mas, If you want D-I scholarships, you have to go all the way in all your sports. 

With Plattsburgh's economic base and SUNY's athletic fee structure (increase limited to the higher education CPI), funding for full scholarships tough to find, and out of D-I schools in the East playing hockey, SUNY 4 years (with all due respect to the fact that you & I are grads of that fine system) near the bottom of the prestige ladder. - Full Ride to SLU now worth nearly $200K vs. $70 at SUNY - where would you go? 

Memorial Hall is a 1964ish Standard SUNY Gym, like those at Geneseo (Schrader), Fredonia (Dodds) etc.  They did replace the floor a few years ago.  Other SUNY Schools also using older wood floored gyms, as rubber floors are a major injury risk.

Stafford Field House at Plattsburgh is like the one at Maxcy with a rubber floor, and the floor is bubbled in spots, so not safe to play, or desirable, as sight lines in these field houses are terrible for shooters. Cost for a portable floor is about $250 K for a decent one, and still not as good as playing on an integrated hardwood floor. (Remember the famous "dead spots" on the parquet ar Boston Garden). 

SUNY was running out of money at the time Stafford was built.  We had just opened Maxcy, but many programs were being cut in the '73-74-75 time frame, and Plattsburgh was basically told to make a decision, and they put their bucks into hockey.  I was the student financial rep for athletics at Potsdam during that time, and remember the tradeoffs that had to be made to get a wooden floor and good bleachers into the gym at Maxcy.  That's why the concrete blocks were bare in Maxcy for so long.

As Zola said, everyone bitched about playing in the Utica Aud, but now that we're faced with a battle of the titans in a tiny gym, Utica doesn't seem so bad.  I'm sure Brockport would rather be playing in Utica than in Plattsburgh.


Bear,
Good explanation. I couldn't have said it any better. Agree with everything you said except for that last part about the battle of the titans in a tiny gym and Utica not being so bad. Would love to see the battle be the Cards and the Bears and no way would I want to be in Utica. I've waited 34 years to see Plattsburgh host a conference championship and the Cardinal faithful deserve to have the SUNYAC's here having never before been the host of the Final Four. 16-0 in one of the strongest SUNY conferences in recent memory gives us that right. And if NY State spent all that money the Lottery generates on education as they were originally supposed to do we'd probably have a bigger gym or renovated field house.  Memorial Hall may be tiny but it will be rockin come Saturday night.

And as far as Plattsburgh going to D-1 in hockey, there's been no mention of that over here. Not gonna happen. It's too bad that Plattsburgh's basketball program doesn't have a facility as nice as Maxcy Hall. In the past few years we've got a great new baseball field, thanks to the generosity of alumnus Chip Cummings whom the field is named after and the soccer program has a beautiful new synthetic turf field. As far as the Stafford Field House basketball court, about the only time it's used is this time of year for all the local high school sectional battles. We sure do miss Senator Stafford over here. If he were still with us and with the team we have this year he'd of had that new gym built by now. Oh well, hope to see you on the weekend right after the Bears upset the Lakers on Tuesday. (The last part of my equation, if you remember?) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2008, 04:17:38 AM
Here's the way tonight's game could turn out.

Plattsburgh 81 Fredonia 68 Cards have too many offensive weapons. No upset here

Potsdam 74 Oswego 72  Reversal of fortune for the Bears

Cortland 70 Geneseo 67  Red Dragons win a tight one at home

Brockport 89 Oneonta 73  Different Golden Eagles team than 1st time they played 

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on February 26, 2008, 04:51:07 AM
Magic- I thought I was the only one up this late???!!!  Or are you (gasp) the dreaded early riser??? Gutsy pick Bears over Lakers, I like it!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Jacketfan2011 on February 26, 2008, 05:38:08 AM
I wonder if the SUNY's don't consider themselves a hockey conference.  Seems that is the way the powers at Plattsburgh look at it and Morrisvilles gym is absoulte crap but they have a great hockey facility.  And while the gym at Oswego isn't terrilbe, you have to take a charter plane to get there if you are a student.  Great planning to put the athletic facilities a half-hour walk away from most dorms and then stop running busses before the end of games.  Nothing like a 10PM walk in Oswego.  In January.  However, the new hockey arena is right in the middle of campus.  How hard would it have been to make it multi-use?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 26, 2008, 08:10:26 AM
Magic- I like your predictions but isnt Geneseo the hottest team in the conference? I didnt look back to see if that was your statement but I am going with Geneseo over Cortland in tight one!! Tough game to call because both teams run their stuff well in halfcourt sets.

Another battle in Lakerville but I like Oswego's chances. Potsdam too many peaks and valleys.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on February 26, 2008, 05:30:07 PM
Magic -

As disappointed as I am that Plattsburg is hosting the league championship in a gym considerably smaller than Central Square High School, I am sure everyone agrees that they deserve to host the games. Sadly, these will be the first finals I've missed in many years given that I'm unwilling to make the 4.5 hour drive without a guarantee of tickets and 'Burgs refusal to take telephone orders. So it goes.

However, your statement that this is one of the strongest SUNY conferences in recent memory tickles my funny bone. Top to bottom, I didn't see much in the league either this year or last and believe that will be born out in the tournament. No one in the SUNYAC has the combination of size, skill, and mental toughness to make a serious run. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 26, 2008, 05:59:01 PM
How quickly one forgets.  Bears were 23-3 heading into Utica Aud in 04-05, and played in front of < 500 folks with a 3,000 seat gym sitting EMPTY.  We took care of business, beating Cards & Lakers.  Then, after hosting Salem St in a thriller, again at 26-3 we got to go to Amherst's dinky, crappy, poorly lit, no concession, no parking, gym, in a snow storm to play an undefeated team.

SUNYAC needs to consider venue.  If Plattsburgh can't accomodate the final four, and provide tix to general public and longtime SUNYAC supporters of nearly 50 years, we know the 2 (Tuttle - 2,000),3(Laker - 3,000),4(Corey - 3,000),5 (Kuhl- 3,000),6 (Welsh - 3,000),7(Dewar - 3,500),& 8(Steele Hall - 3,000 with portable floor) teams all have some of the best venues in D-III.  I've been in every one of these facilities, and they are in many cases better than a lot of Patriot/NEC/America East D-I facilities.

The NCAA, so concerned with the almighty buck, has to start considering quality of venue for tournament games.  They certainly did in the 70's & 80's, we got some real nasty trips, (Oneonta, Stony Brook, Salem State, Decorah Iowa (guess they didn't mind flights as much, [Worcester when ranked #1 & on a 60 game streak]) especially funny because SLU was often in the tourney as well, and meanwhile one of (at that time) the best gyms in D-III with a rabid fan base sat empty.  Sorry if that means the 'burgh gets screwed, but the players deserve better than a gym not fit for most HS teams.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on February 26, 2008, 06:43:31 PM
I think conference tournaments are the domain of the individual conferences, not the NCAA.  You can't fault their cheapness for the SUNYAC's hosting decisions.

And while I haven't seen the SUNYAC tournament since they moved to campus venues, I think leaving the Aud was a good idea.  Even as a neutral site it was a long drive for the North Country and West NY schools.  The venue was clearly built for hockey and the dank, cold atmosphere didn't do much for enthusiasm.

Yes, having schools host the semis has its problems, depending on the host (i.e. too far away, too small).  On the distance issue, I think the conference tournament winner should get some hosting perks.  To the victors go some spoils.  On the size issue, there's a cost associated with using a neutral venue.  I doubt the marginal gate lost at a smaller venue would cover the costs associated with renting a larger one off campus.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 26, 2008, 07:17:37 PM
I was at the SUNYAC finals last year in Brockport, and if that place was half full I would be surprised. Other than B'ports student section there wasn't much of a "host" crowd there and the Plattsburgh fans numbered less than 100 from my vantage point.

Doesn't each team get a ticket allotment for the SUNYAC conference games ?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 26, 2008, 07:21:32 PM
"...On the size issue, there's a cost associated with using a neutral venue.  I doubt the marginal gate lost at a smaller venue would cover the costs associated with renting a larger one off campus...."

Insurance alone per group has to be assured into the $1,000,000 range.  Even to have the Plattsburgh team practice at my high school gym, they had to show written proof that they could cover the High school district's costs if someone to be injured and sue (everyone in site).  On campus events (SUNYAC conference finals ) would already be covered and not an additional expense.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 26, 2008, 07:39:58 PM
Having heard the same complaints over the past 32 or more years about Memorial Hall, I doubt that winning a third SUNYAC championship in a row is going to get a 3000 seat stadium built or the existing one fixed in order to be safe and justify a move to play there again. Unless all the millionaire Plattsburgh alumni who like basketball get together and get that project started. Even if the move was made to the field house AFTER a safe floor was installed I am pretty sure the same complaints would be heard because Plattsburgh can't do anything right. 

We've got two nationally competitive soccer teams,  two national championship caliber hockey teams, a nationally ranked men's basketball team, a nationally ranked softball team, and the baseball team isn't a push over.  It's not the field or arena that makes these teams successful.  I'm sure it helps, but I would prefer to play at a place with a coach that I like, in an arena that is more than 1/2 full each game and a good medical staff.

But you are right, this team does DESERVE to play in a better gym, but I haven't heard them complain much for the past two years. The TOP seed deserves something for doing what was necessary to secure the spot.  I think 16-0 in the conference is very deserving, even for "poor" old Plattsburgh. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2008, 08:33:02 PM

  At the half: Cortland 32, Geneseo 30
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 26, 2008, 08:45:55 PM
On a side note, I'm really trying hard to tough it out and listen to the Seo/Cortland game online but the 2 guys doing the telecast are FREAKING TERRIBLE!!  I mean this is worse than a root canal!  Anyway, good game thus far and hopefully the knights can pull it out!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2008, 08:51:37 PM

Half: Brockport 30, Oneonta 27
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 26, 2008, 08:55:35 PM
Geneseo goes on run-up 42-34 15min. to go in 2nd half!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on February 26, 2008, 08:59:21 PM
Props to Anthony Williams (of poor ole Plattsburgh) on his nomination as one of the 10 finalists for the Jostens (basically player of the year).  Very deserving and very cool!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2008, 09:00:10 PM

    Plattsburgh 72, Fredonia 62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 26, 2008, 09:02:19 PM
Cortlaand goes on 14-4 run and takes lead by 2 with 10min. to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 26, 2008, 09:18:40 PM
Gtown goes on run of its own and leads by 6 with 3min. to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 26, 2008, 09:20:19 PM
Geneseo up 5 with 1:30 to go and I really think that the student play-by-play man is Mentally Retarded! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on February 26, 2008, 09:29:42 PM
Knights win 63-60!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2008, 09:34:27 PM

   Brockport holds off Oneonta 77-70. This a three point game at 0:12 .....

   Geneseo twice staves off Cortland rallies, the last one from 60-51 hole keyed by Mike Jankiewicz pair of treys. Second one makes it 62-60. J. Kling hits one of two free throws at 0:13. CSt fails at buzzer
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 26, 2008, 09:43:27 PM
The Oswego State men's basketball team defeated Potsdam 71-56 in a SUNYAC Quarterfinal game on Tuesday night at Max Ziel Gymnasium in Oswego. With the victory, Oswego State advances to the SUNYAC semifinals to be held in Plattsburgh on Friday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 26, 2008, 09:45:31 PM
Looks like Friday is 

Geneseo #5 seed at Plattsburgh #1 seed

Oswego  #3 seed vs  Brockport #2 seed


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2008, 09:45:49 PM
  Oswego 71, Potsdam 56

  Brockport runs into foul problems with Sherod Harris and B. Williams both seeing limited minutes. Harris 19' for 19 pts(8x14fg, 2x5 3s), 4pf; Williams 10' for 7 pts(3x8fg), 6 reb, 5 pf. A. Poles 15 pts(4x6fg, 2x4 3s), 8 reb in 24'; C. Parrish 13 pts(6x11fg), 8 reb in 25'; M. Wilkes 4 assts. Port 28x60fg, 42-27reb. OSt 27x58fg. M. Grimes 14 pts(5x8fg, 2x2 3s), 10 rebs; E. Arrington 13 pts(5x10fg); R. Fisk 12 pts(4x12fg, 3x7 3s); M. Lane 10 pts(4x9fg); S. Gillette 4 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2008, 10:09:07 PM

     Oswego 36-26 leaders at half, take advantage of Pdam 8x26fg liftoff. Bears threaten but doused by T. Downing threes. Downing 22 pts(6x13fg, 4x10 3s), 4 stls; N. Perioli 12 pts(5x13fg, 1x3 3s), 6 assts, 3 stls; M. Jabbi 12 pts, 12 rebs, 4 blks; K. Reuter 10 pts; D. White 10 pts(3x4fg). Lakers 23x54fg, 6x18 3s, 19x27ft. Pdam 20x51fg, 2x12 3s, 14x19ft. A. Dike 18 pts(6x12fg); T. Reinhardt 15 pts(7x10fg); B. Graney 6 rebs

    Geneseo gets 16 pts from J. Howe(8x10fg), 5 rebs; T. Kitson 12 pts(6x12fg); S. Morton 12 pts(4x7fg, 2x4 3s), 4 assts; J. Kling 4 assts. Knights 25x49fg, 4x11 3s, 9x12ft, 32-23 rebs. Cortland starters score just 16 pts. Spares show the way: M. Jankiewicz 14 pts(5x9fg, 4x7 3s) in 19'; W. Coston 12 pts(6x12fg), 4 stls; C. Niehoff 12 pts(4x10fg, 2x6 3s). M. Lewis gets 2 pts(0x2fg), 4 rebs, 4 assts in 30'. Dragons 22x50fg, 10x25 3s, 6x8ft

     Plattsburgh has 36-31 halftime lead over Fredonia. Cards 25x59fg, 7x19 3s, 13x13ft. A. Williams 26 pts(10x22fg, 2x7 3s), 6 assts, 2 stls; K. Hunt 14 pts(4x9fg), 9 rebs; T. Gorham 13 rebs, 4 pts, 4 stls; A. Miller 11 pts(4x7fg), 8 rebs. Freds 24x54fg, 7x18 3s, 7x16ft. R. Buckmon 13 pts(4x9fg, 2x4 3s); K. Gordon 11 pts(5x9fg); J. Bryant 10 pts(5x8fg), 5 assts; W. Davis 10 pts(3x5fg), 5 assts, 3 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2008, 10:13:22 PM
Plattsburgh State took care of bisiness tonight winning their quarter-final matchup against Fredonia. Cards grabbed an early 9-2 lead and were never headed. 1st half stayed fairly close as Fredonia matched Plattsburgh basket for basket throughout. Cardinals hitting 3's and Blue Devils scoring inside. Was a 3pt. game when Antwane Miller hit a 3 with 1 sec. left in the half to send the Cards in at the break up 36-31. Cards came out flying to start the 2nd period and extended their lead to as much as 18. Fredonia would cut it to single digits only to have Plattsburgh build it back up. Plattsburgh up by 13 with 3:30 to go and Fredonia coach decided not to do the foul train thing. Anthony Williams again led the Cardinals with 26 pts on`10x22fg, 2x7 3's, 6 assists 3 rebs, 2 steals. Khylan Hunt had 14 pts. 4x9 fg, 2x4 3's, 9rebs.  Antwane Miller added 11 pts. 4x7 fg, 2x2 3's. Travis Gorham 13 rebs, 4 pts. 4 stls. Cards 26x59 fg 7x19 3's. Fredonia was led by Rich Buckmon with 13 pts on 4x9 fg, 2x4 3's. Kyle Gordan had 11 pts on 5x9 fg 4 rebs, 3 assts. Julius Bryant and Wayne Davis each had 10 pts and 5 assts.  

Plattsburgh hosts the semis & finals this weekend.

#2 Brockport vs. #3 Oswego

#1 Plattsburgh vs #5 Geneseo
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2008, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: with age comes? on February 26, 2008, 04:51:07 AM
Magic- I thought I was the only one up this late???!!!  Or are you (gasp) the dreaded early riser??? Gutsy pick Bears over Lakers, I like it!!!

Normally I'm  a night owl, but these past few weeks I've been both as I'm training a new golden retriever puppy. 5 to 5:30 AM he wakes me up and outside we go. It wasn't really gutsy. I promised  "thebear" 3 wks ago that Potsdam was going to win enough games at the end of the season to move up the standings and grab the 6th seed so they wouldn't have to face Bport or Pburgh in the Quarters. Hoped for an upset at Oswego so the Bears would be in the final four and "thebear" would have to make the trek over to Plattsburgh. Almost got my wish. Are you coming up for the weekend? I believe there will be a block of tickets available for each of the schools in the semis. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 26, 2008, 10:58:36 PM
Hey Magic--I think I called them all tonight!! Friday will be Bport over Oswego and the Burg over Geneseo--two games determined by 6 pts or less!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2008, 12:48:18 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on February 26, 2008, 06:43:31 PM
I think conference tournaments are the domain of the individual conferences, not the NCAA.  You can't fault their cheapness for the SUNYAC's hosting decisions.

And while I haven't seen the SUNYAC tournament since they moved to campus venues, I think leaving the Aud was a good idea.  Even as a neutral site it was a long drive for the North Country and West NY schools.  The venue was clearly built for hockey and the dank, cold atmosphere didn't do much for enthusiasm.

Yes, having schools host the semis has its problems, depending on the host (i.e. too far away, too small).  On the distance issue, I think the conference tournament winner should get some hosting perks.  To the victors go some spoils.  On the size issue, there's a cost associated with using a neutral venue.  I doubt the marginal gate lost at a smaller venue would cover the costs associated with renting a larger one off campus.

gordan,
I agree with everything you've said and I've stated most of these ideas over the past couple of weeks when it looked more & more like Plattsburgh was going to be the host site. There has been lots of chatter complaining about the travel and the trip and the field house not being utilized but we've had to experience a lot of these same issues in years past.


Cards,
After speaking with some folks to the college there will be blocks of tickets alloted to the other schools in the semis. I believe that's also mandated by SUNYAC.

thebear,
I remember the Amherst trip. Lots of people complaining about the lack of parking, concessions, and poor playing facility.  And after this year if SUNYAC wants to consider the venue I have no problem with that. You just can't change the rules until the year is over.
Maybe if the tournament was held at the best SUNY facility not involved in the playoffs so that it truly was a neutral site but something tells me (Utica Aud.) if the local team isn't in the mix then the crowds will never be at or near capacity. The exception to that might be if one of the western schools is the site and most of the actual teams that are in the final four are all from that part of the state. It just seems that with most conferences, the reward for doing well in the regular season is home court advantage during the playoffs. Some years the venue is better than others, but you have to take the good with the bad. Of course you could always do away with the playoffs and just let the regular season decide the Conference Champion, as the UAA does. Then no one would be able to complain about where the playoffs are staged.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2008, 12:56:05 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 26, 2008, 10:58:36 PM
Hey Magic--I think I called them all tonight!! Friday will be Bport over Oswego and the Burg over Geneseo--two games determined by 6 pts or less!!

Are you sure? I must have missed that post. ;D  Just kidding. I saw your picks and changed mine so we both wouldn't be the same. ;)  Good job. Coming up for the weekend?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2008, 05:02:49 AM
Quote from: zola on February 26, 2008, 05:30:07 PM
Magic -

As disappointed as I am that Plattsburg is hosting the league championship in a gym considerably smaller than Central Square High School, I am sure everyone agrees that they deserve to host the games. Sadly, these will be the first finals I've missed in many years given that I'm unwilling to make the 4.5 hour drive without a guarantee of tickets and 'Burgs refusal to take telephone orders. So it goes.

However, your statement that this is one of the strongest SUNY conferences in recent memory tickles my funny bone. Top to bottom, I didn't see much in the league either this year or last and believe that will be born out in the tournament. No one in the SUNYAC has the combination of size, skill, and mental toughness to make a serious run. 




zola,

I'm surprised to hear you say that. I've apparently been watching a different SUNYAC conference than you have. Even D3Hoops commented that the SUNYAC conference was one of the up and coming stronger than usual conferences. Let's start at the top.

Plattsburgh St. Only undefeated in Region team in the country with a 21-0 regional record. Went to the NCAA's last year and beat UR  in the 1st round before losing to Fisher at Fisher in the 2nd round. Both Rochester and Plattsburgh have most of the same players returning for this year's squads. Plattsburgh has already locked up a bid to the NCAA's as has UR. Plattsburgh has victories over the top team in the Liberty League, SLU and 1 of the better teams in the NESCAC league, Middlebury both of whom have a good shot at getting bids

Brockport St. is currently ranked 3rd in the East Region and stands to receive a Pool C bid. Last year they won three games to advance to the great 8 and lost in overtime in their effort to make the final four. They return most of that team. They were also ranked nationally for 5 or 6 weeks climbing as high as #11 before sliding out of the top 25. They now stand around 31st.

Oswego St. now sporting a 19-6 record and ranked #7 in the East. 3 of those 6 losses at the hands of Pburgh and Bport. If the Lakers win the SUNYAC tournament it's possible that 3 teams from the conference get bids. If not they will most likely play in the ECAC's and should end up with a 20 win season.

Geneseo St. Basically the same as Oswego. 19-7 record that included recent wins over Bport to end the regular season and now Cortland to advance to the semifinals in the SUNYAC tourney. Good chance they will end up with a 20 win season as well.

Cortland St. See above. 19-7 record and most likely headed to the ECAC's. Young team will be tough next year. Their 7 losses were all to quality opponents. Good chance for a 20 win season.

Potsdam St. Overall record disappointing but injuries throughout the season held them back. Still on any night capable of beating the top teams as evidenced by their wins over SLU and Ithaca.

Even New Paltz who only won 6 games all year and tied for last in the conference beat Keene State who beat then #2 ranked UMass-Dartmouth to end their 20 game win streak.

This year right now the SUNYAC I think has 5 of the top 10 ranked schools in the East Region. Don't believe that's been the case in recent memory, if ever.

I believe the SUNYAC conference will end up with 5 schools all posting 20 or more win seasons.
In checking the other top conferences around the country, none of the following can boast of this accomplishment. The UAA, NESCAC, WIAC, SCAC, CCIW, MIAA, NCAC, OAC, ASC, MWC, CC, MIAC,  and ODAC conferences. Many have just 1 team that will top 20 wins, some have 2, and several have 3, but none even have 4. We have 5. Almost all of the top 30 teams in the country belong to the above conferences. I stand by my earlier statement. If you don't see it that way, that's OK too.

And to ease your disappointment about Plattsburgh hosting the finals and missing them for the first time in years. How about this? I'll pick up tickets for you if you want to make the trip. E-mail me through the personal message service if you're interested. I'm sure we could work something out if you really want to attend.

That goes for the rest of you guys out there as well. Scooterman, With Age, Bports and any others. E-mail me if you want to attend but can't score tickets. I can probably help out. It's the least I can do for some die-hard fans like yourselves.

Sorry for the long post.  Good night and Good luck.     

 
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 27, 2008, 07:59:21 AM
Magic--i will be there with bells on--NO Bells--but in attendance--Hey I am back on my ref vendetta--Went to the Bport-Oneonta game and the syracuse official, Len Rausch, needs to hide his disgust for Bport a little better. He made every block call against the Eagles and charge call against the Eagles all night. His charming personality was evident from across the way as he had looked disgusted all night.

I remember him as a player at Lemoyne as tough nose, hard worker but dont like his refereeing style. Sure the coaches werent real impressed either. I have seen him many times over the years. Not a one time deal. Sorry to any LR lovers!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2008, 01:10:03 PM
Scooterman - I would venture you're not the only one not impressed with that certain former D-II player's reffing style.  Worse than that, rumor has it, he's an up & comer, being considered for a move up to D-I games.

Ask Zola what he thinks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 27, 2008, 06:20:48 PM

      Ahhhhhh, Lenny Rausch ......let me count the ways!

      We remember when Mike Kitts and Pat Driscoll regularly worked SUNYAC games. Good guys both. Even-tempered Kittsy, great sense of humor, knew how to soothe the soul. Now you see his bald pate any time you tune in big games, Big East or other majors. Driscoll wasn't bad, just didn't have that enforcer look. Appeared 16 with a very weak body. He's filled out for sure and you see him working the majors. Pat actually "inherited" Dick `Froggy' Paparo's director of Syracuse parks cushy position. Paparo a striped legend.

      Now comes another Syracusan -- Lenny. Acts as though he's a bit too good for D3. Blows calls left and right. But he's The Man -- at least to Lenny. That's certainly the impression he leaves all the time. He and Cortland's Coach Span not exactly bosom buddies. But mark these words -- Lenny is D1 bound!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2008, 09:05:38 PM
I kept the book on Froggy's very first college JV game in Utica in the fall of '71.  Then there was the time that he handed out 5 T's in one game to Welsh & Evans (must be a record).  He did know how to keep a game in control.

As I've said we used to get the very best,  Jim Burr, Tim Wendt, Gene Monje, Pete Pavia, the Cahill brothers (even got them against Siena one time - no conflict there) all reffed Potsdam games during the 80's.

Mark Di Staola is another Syracuse area ref who was doing D-I games, but haven't seen him in a while.

If none of the coaches like the guy, how does he keep getting assigned?  Sad to say he's still better than most we see.  Some real weak whistles doing D-III games these days, and the crews for the women's games are even weaker in many cases.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on February 28, 2008, 03:33:14 AM
magic - I must agree with your post.  I think the whole region is pretty strong this year with Platts capable of doing real damage in the tourney.  Especially if they focus and pound weak teams early so their big guns can get a little rest.  My one knock on them is that sometimes they let inferior teams hang around too long and think they can "turn it on" when they need too.  Sadly they have been able to do that against many teams but in the tournament all the teams will be at least pretty good and I'm afraid if they let someone hang around too long and that someone gets extremely hot at the right time Platts could be in for a problem.  Also thank you for your gracious offer to help with tickets, I will be traveling north this weekend but will be stopping in Canton for the Liberty League Tournament.        Good Luck to the all the SUNYAC teams, I could see 5 getting post season bids between the NCAA and ECAC if teams accept. The liberty will only probably be able to send one team to the ECAC (either SLU if they lose early -not very likely or Vassar - very likely - last years winners and will probably get beat by Hamilton or SLU in the tournament.   For some reason due to another league affiliation, I believe, Hamilton can't accept the ECAC tournament.  That being said Nazareth, St John Fisher, Ithaca, & RIT are possibles from the e-8 but one of the first 3 could win their tourney. So a non-champion Oswego, Geneseo, Cortland, or Bport would all get bids I would think and Platts is all but a shoe in to go to the NCAA. That's five and suppose the beloved Bears' Bears get hot and win the tourney, who knows it could be 6 in the post season!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on February 28, 2008, 03:57:53 AM
My apologies Bear, just noted that tournament results are in and Bear's Bears were eliminated.  Injuries are tough to overcome.   And as long as refs are being mentionned I want to throw out a name and get opinions?!    Shane Quackenbush...   thoughts? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WNYOsports on February 29, 2008, 10:21:53 AM
WNYO Oswego is going to Plattsburgh a day early to broadcast tonight's semifinal game between the Lakers and Brockport.  You can listen to the game at http://www.wnyosports.com (http://www.wnyosports.com) starting at 5:50 p.m.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sb in the seo on February 29, 2008, 05:20:14 PM
First time long time

Just curious if anyone knows of a radio link to listen to plattsburgh vs. geneseo tonight?

... Or at least live stats?

I work for the Geneseo radio station, but we could not get a team together for the long trip.

Any platty station doing the game? Or b'port/oswego station that is planning on doing both?

I guess I'll throw down a few predictions while i'm on here:

Platty by 5 over Geneseo

The good guys keep it close the whole game, but Plattsburgh makes 2 more "plays" in the final minute... 1 on offense, 1 on defense.

B'port  by 8 over Oswego

I saw both teams once this year and was a little more impressed with Brockport even though they lost.  Should be pretty evenly matched, but I think Brockport shoots a little better and is a little faster tonight and pulls away in the final five minutes.

Thanks.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsportsfan on February 29, 2008, 07:46:52 PM
Oswego 87 Brockport 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 29, 2008, 08:38:59 PM
Oswego is a good team, they have five starters who can all light it up.  Really surprised that Oswego would beat Brockport that badly on a neutral floor.  The old saw about being tough to beat a team three times certainly holds up here.

Lakers at 20-6 now in the SUNYAC finals, must have scrambled the at-large situation in the East a bit.

Losses are to Naz (in E-8 Finals), SLU (probably in LL Finals), at Plattsburgh by 5, 2 to 'port and incredibly the loss at Fredonia last weekend.  Biggest problem is lack of quality wins, with a schedule remarkable only for its 12 wins against teams at or below 500.

Wish Plattsburgh would invest in live stats, but hockey rules on the west shore of the 6th great lake.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 29, 2008, 10:27:03 PM
 

   Plattsburgh overcomes halftime deficit to defeat Geneseo 65-57
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2008, 11:06:44 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh St.- Geneseo St. game.  Plattsburgh grabbed an early lead and led 20-14, when Geneseo went on a 15-0 run to take control at 29-20. Cards fought back to close it to 33-29 at the break. Early back and forth play to start the 2nd half when the Blue Knights opened up a 13 pt lead at 43-30 at the 15 min mark. Plattsburgh narrowed the gap to 50-47 with 9:03 left and finally grabbed the lead at 54-52 with 5:48 to play. Opened up a 7 pt lead at 61-54 and closed it out with FT's to make the final of 65-57.
Plattsburgh as usual was led by Anthony Williams with 25 pts. on 9x26 fg 3x14 3pt's. 4x5 FT's. He also added 7 rebs. and 5 assists. Khylan Hunt had a double double with 14 pts on 5x11 fgs 2x2 3 pt's 2x4 FT's and 11 rebs. Chris Ruiz came off the bench with 10 pts. 3 boards 4 assists and 3 steals. Travis Gorham, battling the flu had 8 pts, 4 rebs 2 assists 3blks, and 2 steals in 26 mins. Antwane Miller chipped in with 7 pts., 5 boards, 3 assists and 2 steals.
Geneseo was led by Jeff Howe with a double double of 13 pts and 11 rebs. on 6x9 fgs. Tarik Kitson was right behind with 13 pts and 9 boards on 6x10 fgs. Joe Kling had 13 pts. and 4 assists on 5x10 fgs and Scott Morton added 12 pts. 5 rebs 9 assists7 3 blks.

Plattsburgh takes on Oswego for the SUNYAC Championship at 4:00 tomorrow afternoon at Memorial Hall.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2008, 11:26:57 PM
Also took in the 1st game tonight with Brockport getting upset by Oswego if you can call it that. Lakers came out firing on all cylinders with Tommy Downing leading the way with 13 1st half pts on 5x6 shooting. Lakers grabbed the early lead and never looked back. Up 41-32 at the break they extended it to a 14 pt lead with 5 mins gone in the 2nd half. Brockport closed to 77-70 with 2:20 left but that was as close as they got. Nick Perioli hit a bunch of foul shots down the stretch and Bport kept firing up 3's that missed the mark to make the final 15 pt margin.
Perioli led all scorers with 24 pts on 7x18 fg's and 10x12 FT's. Also had 6 rebs. and 5 assists. Downing was right behind with 23 pts. on 8x10 fg's and4x4 FT's 6 rebs 2 asists & 2 steals. Kyle Reuter chipped in with 11 pts. on 4x7 fg's & 3x4 FT's Dom White added 10 pts. & 9 boards.  Mahamoud Jabbi had 8 pts. 11 boards and an amazing 7 blocks.
Brockport  was led by Sherod Harris with 23 pts on 9x20 fg's 3x6 3 pt & 5assists. Brandon Williams was the only other player in double figures with 18 pts. on 9x22 fg's and grabbed a game high 15 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 01, 2008, 02:25:06 AM
Fantastic move of the game by Brockport's Cantrel Parrish, who punched out the water cooler dousing two fans and flooding the bench area.  Brilliant move  :(

Brockport had to be looking past Oswego or something because they played in a fog.  Downing from Oswego was on fire and Oswego was the best team on the court Friday night.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 01, 2008, 02:30:48 AM
Plattsburgh's little bitty gym was rocking in the 2nd game.  The whole baseball team was there cheering on their fellow Athletes, a few former Cardinals in the stands, and best wishes emails from former star Tom Chapin. 

Cards were not clicking on all cylinders.  Travis Gorham gutted out his 26 minutes. 

Met the Magicman at his Music Store in Pburgh prior to the game.  Extremely nice fellow and not too bad of a business man either.  Shared some SUNYAC North Country basketball history with him.  Not a single piece of RAP music (?) in his store.   Thumbs up Magic Man.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 01, 2008, 02:32:48 AM
"...Mahamoud Jabbi had 8 pts. 11 boards and an amazing 7 blocks. ..."

Very impressed with his play.  Quick leaper, with great timing.  Could use some more muscle, but really made a statement against Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 01, 2008, 02:56:10 AM
U of R well represented in the pre-NCAA scouting going on during the two SUNYAC games on Friday.  Also in attendance was a NCAA official who scouts possible venues.

Win on Saturday Cardinals and maybe you will host 1st/2nd round game(s).
Packed house. Enthusiatic fans (even Oswego's contingent in the first game).

Inconsistent officiating with attitudes.  Must have been the TV camera crews. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2008, 09:21:21 AM
I think Plattsburgh should host even if they get upset on Saturday. 3rd straight year in the NCAA's, the best record in the East region by far, top ten national ranking, and Plattsburgh's never hosted an NCAA game. At some point it get's to be your turn. If not now, when? Hopefully the Cards will make it easy on the NCAA committee and win the automatic bid today. Last year St. John Fisher and St. Lawrence got to host. This year should be UR and Plattsburgh.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 01, 2008, 04:58:22 PM
My first post... have been a fan of this forum for years.  Not wanting the season to be over and with the Bears out of the playoffs, I took the journey to Plattsbugh for the semi games.  I have to say that the atmosphere was outstanding... reminded me of the Bears sweet 16 game against Salem State a few years back.  I do hope, with all of the recent success of the Cards team, that the AD/administration puts some money into the gym as it really starting to show some wear and tear... a new floor would do wonders!

As for the games, I guess you could say that one was a tale of a team that wanted to be in the final versus one that thought it deserved to be in the title game.  It was sad to see Brockport, a team that many on this site feel could go deep in the tourney, make their lives even more difficult for a pool C birth by losing to Oswego.  That said, Oswego played outstanding all night long... Periolli and Jabbi were incredible.

The Cards vs. Geneseo was a fun game to watch... I haven't seen Plattsburgh shoot as bad as they did in the first half in a long time... even so, to only be down by a handful at the break was a good omen for them.  The second half became a game of runs and the Cards won out by making some clutch shots, holding the edge on fouls (13 vs. 6) and making free throws.  I was impressed with Geneseo... they execute better than any team in the conference.  They played well but the Cards were just to talented and to deep.

Oswego and Plattsburgh in a double dip tonight... 4pm hoops and 7pm hockey... both for conference supremacy and NCAA tournament bids on the line.  Should be fun... wish I was there... both venues will be hopping.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 01, 2008, 05:06:09 PM
Plattsburgh 61 Oswego 44 11 minutes left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 01, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
68 to 54 Plattsburgh with 5:43 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 01, 2008, 05:37:38 PM
Plattsburgh 84 Oswego 70 less than a minute to go... Congrats to the Candinals!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 01, 2008, 05:42:53 PM
magic-I was there and very disappointing effort by the Eagles on the defensive end--no real sense of urgency in their eyes and that is the end result. The Oswego squad utilized the clock very well each posession and knocked down shots all night. They shot better than 50% first half with 9 offensive rebounds on misses. Felt bad for my Eagles but that's what happens!!! Didnt see the Cantrel Parrish move but if that's what happened its uncalled for--The Burg upheld their part even though not looking smooth doing it--Congrats to the Burg!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 01, 2008, 05:50:38 PM
I am sure a lot of the win had to do with Plattsburgh's superior talent but how do the Lakers just falter in the Finals every time they are there. I don't know if it's the players or the coaches but it seems like the same story every time they are there. Lack of intensity or is it the superior teams they have played in the finals throughout Coach Broderick's time there?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 01, 2008, 06:13:04 PM
Slicky--I know what you are saying but I think Oswego are overachievers--No real quality wins this season other than Bport and nonleague schedule does have some challenge but not alot--I give the Lakers kudos for making it to the finals!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 01, 2008, 06:14:47 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on March 01, 2008, 05:50:38 PM
I am sure a lot of the win had to do with Plattsburgh's superior talent but how do the Lakers just falter in the Finals every time they are there. I don't know if it's the players or the coaches but it seems like the same story every time they are there. Lack of intensity or is it the superior teams they have played in the finals throughout Coach Broderick's time there?

But during the regular season and early rounds of the SUNYACs, the Lakers always seem to be able to compete, especially at home.  Zola & I were trying to remember the last time Potsdam won at Oswego, been a while.  Lakers also seem to do very well in the ECAC's usually winning or finishing second, but for some reason, they just can't win a SUNYAC title,  radio today said they haven't won a title since '65.  Long dry spell for one of the largest schools in the system, located in easy driving distance of both Rochester & Syracuse, and surrounded by top JUCO programs, they should be a powerhouse year after year.

Congrats to the Cards, well deserved, they've taken on all comers and are still unscathed by the SUNYAC wars (first team in 20 years to do so.).  Now if they could just get Senator Betty Little to write a member item for a high quality portable basketball floor in Stafford.

P.S.  Very disappointed in the job P'burgh sports info does.  Stats are rarely on their website, no mention of excellent broadcast by Oswego college station, no live stats.  As a former SID, when a school moves into lofty territory (3x SUNYAC titles qualifies, as does national ranking), they have to pick up the administrative side of their game as well.  Delventhal as a former D-I coach should know & demand that - but wait, he's a hockey guy.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2008, 07:10:01 PM
Just returned from the SUNYAC championship game between Plattsburgh St. and Oswego St. Teams traded early baskets until Oswego went on a 7-0 spurt to grab  the advantage at 18-13 at the 11 min mark. Plattsburgh answered with a 10-2 run to lead 23-20 and opened it up a bit with another 11-4 run to take the first double digit lead of 34-24 with 2:13 left in the half. Cards went into the break up 39-26. Teams traded baskets to start the 2nd with Plattsburgh lead fluctuating between 10-15 pts and the Cardinals grabbed their largest lead of the game at 61-44 with 11:26 left to play. Oswegp managed to cut it to 10 with 8:25 remaining but that was as close as the Lakers would get.
Plattsburgh once again was led by All American and Tournament MVP Anthony Williams with 30 pts, 7 rebs, and 5 assists. He was 10x17 from the field with 3x4 from 3 pt. range and 7x8 from the charity stripe. Tournament all star Travis Gorham backed him up with another double -double of 19 pts. and 13 rebounds. Gorham was unstoppable inside as he hit on 8x11 attempts. Khylan Hunt, also was chosen to the all tournament team, as he finished with 14 pts on 3x9 fg's and 7x7 FT's. He also chipped in with 7 boards and 2 blocks. Antwane Miller hit some key buckets to end up with 10 pts on 4x7 fg's. Oswego was led by Kyle Reuter with 21 pts. on 7x10 fg's and 3x4 3 pt's & 4x5 FT's. Nick Perioli who was chosen for the all tournament team added 18 pts. on 5x15 fg's, 8x8 FT's and 7 assists. Tommy Downing also on the all tournament team ended up with 12 pts. on 4x19 fg's 3x4 FT's. Mahamoud Jabbi chipped in with 11 pts and a team high 10 boards.
Sherod Harris of Brockport St. was the other member of the all tournament team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 01, 2008, 08:45:03 PM
"...Sherod Harris of Brockport St. was the other member of the all tournament team...."

Jabbi of Oswego deserved it more for the two games he had.  That guy worked very hard during both games and played hard every minute he played. 

I think keeping Downing #33 from making 3 pointers helped. He had some nice penetration scores but only 1 3pt that I can remember. 

Travis Gorham and Kyhlan (GrandPa and the Forgotten man) played well enough to be considered MVPs, but Anthony Williams showed why (again) he was nick-named Big Shot.   Spider Guzman played good D and came through with 3-4 from the foul line when Oswego was on a seek and foul mission to find him.  It might have been the best FT shooting for Plattsbugh that I have seen.  Focus and Form.

Kudo's go to Tim '00' Havens and Ricky Rider who played all out on both ends.

Another spectacular crowd. Well behaved for a college crowd.  Good mix of college age students, old standards, and a surprising number of middle school to single didget aged young ones in the stands.  Hockey players from both schools, Plattsburgh baseball and lacrosse teams and the lady cardinal basketball team giving support.  A nice mix of some Oswego faithful made the trip also. 

I agree with slickyquick and thebear about some of the problems with the Cardinal web-site.   I look at some of the other sites  and gotta believe that "we" can do a better job.   Like, getting the stats updated more than once a week, getting those stat pages to align correctly with the column headers for easier reading and more photos.   What's wrong with work study students with web-based training in order to get this site updated faster and "pretty it up"?    The internet site can be a GREAT tool, and is not being utilized to it's full potential.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2008, 11:58:42 PM
Cards7580,

Good job giving the bench players tonight their due. Plus k for you.  And guys that rarely get a mention like RJ Ponesse, Farris Thomas, Lance Darrell, and Josh Bruno. They all came in at key times during the year when Travis or Khylan needed a break or were in foul trouble and made plays that were important to the team. It's tough to get minutes when you have 7 guys in front of you with the tools that Anthony, Antwane, Travis, Khylan, Ricky, Chris Ruiz, and Errol Daniyan possess. Their turn will come and hopefully they are the next group of Cardinals to keep Plattsburgh's championship streak alive. Ruiz and Daniyan were both huge contributors throughout the year and played like they were much older than the freshmen they were. Ruiz was instant offense off the bench and I lost track of how many times he entered a game and within seconds drained a 3 to give the team a big lift. And Daniyan's ability to crash the boards and get those putbacks was also a huge factor in many close contests. The Cardinals didn't lose much when these 2 young players replaced our starters. I must admit I was a little nervous tonight when I learned that Daniyan wasn't going to see any action because of his injury the previous night. Hopefully he'll be fine by this coming weekend.

Also agree that Jabbi from Oswego deserved to be on the all tournament team. He was 2 pts shy of a double-double for both nights along with his conference tournament record of 14 blocked shots. Tough to leave Sherod Harris off though. He's a great player and he got his points and assists as expected Friday night. As Coach Flynn said "You can't stop Harris or Brandon Williams, they're going to get their numbers, you just shut down the rest of the players", and that's exactly what Oswego did to the Golden Eagles on Friday night. No one else had more than 6 pts. Don't think that's happened this year before last night.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2008, 03:17:13 AM
Quote from: scooterman on March 01, 2008, 05:42:53 PM
magic-I was there and very disappointing effort by the Eagles on the defensive end--no real sense of urgency in their eyes and that is the end result. The Oswego squad utilized the clock very well each posession and knocked down shots all night. They shot better than 50% first half with 9 offensive rebounds on misses. Felt bad for my Eagles but that's what happens!!! Didnt see the Cantrel Parrish move but if that's what happened its uncalled for--The Burg upheld their part even though not looking smooth doing it--Congrats to the Burg!!

Thanks for the congrats. Very gracious of you. I know how disappointed you must be at the turn of events on Friday night. I was hoping to run into you but having never met I knew that would be difficult. I thought of going down to the Brockport bench area looking up at the fans, and shouting, where's scooterman? Probably would have worked as there wasn't that big of a crowd for the 1st game. Oh well, maybe next year.

I think the Golden Eagles were looking ahead to that match-up with Plattsburgh on Sat. night when they took the floor against the Lakers on Friday. They had handled them with relative ease both times during the regular season and Friday was just going to be another day at the office. Downing, Perioli, and Reuter can flat out shoot, and they wasted no time in heating up, especially Downing. And Bport got beat up on the boards 46-33 and 12 blocks led by Jabbi's 7. Basically Wilkes, Shawn Harris,(who hit the opening basket and never scored again) Parrish and Maldonado took the night off. 20 pts, 8 rebs, 4 assists, no steals and 6 turnovers between the 4 of them. That's the bad news.

The good news is there is still an outside chance that the Golden Eagles may get a Pool C bid. At this moment 12 Pool C bids are locked up.  Another 2 are locked up if the 2 conference leaders should lose in their conference final and don't get the automatic Pool A bid. That leaves 3 remaining Pool C bids left and there are presently 8 teams in contention for them. The 2 teams you need to root for are Worcester Polytech to beat Coast Guard in the NEWMAC final Sunday at Noon. And Mary Hardin-Baylor to beat Concordia-Austin in the ASC title game Sunday at 2:00. If those 2 teams win they get Pool A bids and that will free up 2 more Pool C bids to make 5 available. The teams they play won't get a Pool C bid if they lose but if Worcester and Mary Hardin lose they will get Pool C bids, leaving only 3 up for grabs with 8 teams vying for them. Those 8 teams, as it stands right now, looks like they are: Buena Vista, Middlebury, Occidental,  Emerson, Cal Lutheran, William Paterson, Brockport State, and St. Lawrence.  There are a few more teams that could probably be added to the list of contenders but guys that are more knowledgeable than me seem to think that the last remaining Pool C bids will go to 3, 4, or 5, of these 8 teams. So keep your fingers crossed and root for those 2 teams I mentioned above. Good luck.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 02, 2008, 09:03:31 AM
Magic--Thanks for the scenario--You bet I will be rooting for those two to win--I was at the scorers table for our game because they originally needed someone to keep score but ended up just sitting there. Great seat tho-LOL-- Whatever the Eagles' problem that day, was very disappointing to me because I bleed green and gold--sounds stupid but true--Would have loved to have opportunity to talk to you face to face--Good luck to the Burg and hopefully Bport will back in--Not the way I pictured it but what can you say?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2008, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: fcnews on March 02, 2008, 02:49:16 PM
It looks like nobody wants to host. A lot of the likely suspects have lost this weekend. Who is going to get byes?

With the best record in all of D3Hoops at 26-2,  the longest winning streak in Div. III at 19 straight games, an unblemished conference record of 19-0 and winners of 3 straight SUNYAC Championships, my vote goes to Plattsburgh State to get a 1st round bye.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2008, 04:25:36 PM
They certainly deserve to.  Bears got a first round bye in '04-05 when they won the regular season & conference titles.
They had 3 in conference losses, but were perfect out of conference.

Brockport, Oswego, St. Lawrence all very close to Pool C when you do the math, but probably outside looking in.

Don't be surprised, with 'burg located on the cusp of New England that the second round game maybe winner of a game between two New England teams - that's what the NCAA did in '04-5. Salem St showed up with a 6-9 & a 6-10.

As for hosting the sectionals, should they get that far, Amherst loss will certainly improve Card's standing.  Cards now have a two game in region W-L advantage over Lord Jeffs, Lord Jeff's still have the edge in OWP & OOWP.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 02, 2008, 04:38:00 PM
Go Cards  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2008, 05:22:10 PM
One thing that could get tricky for the Cards getting a Bye is that there are 10 Pool A Bids in the "sectional" representing New England & Upstate NY.  (The Good news is there could have been 12, but NEAC & AMCC were won by Penna teams)

There are also a number of NESCAC teams & UAA teams that will get Pool C Bids, such as Amherst, Brandeis, Bowdoin, even Middlebury, as well as Mass-Dartmouth & WPI, who are strong Pool C teams.  There may be 16 deserving teams in that East Pod, and because of $ the bracket might be filled.

There's also the problem of what to do with Clarkson.  The NCAA may just think that feeding the #16 seed to the #1 seed located 88 miles away may be a quick end to a team with a losing record's time in the tournament as well as an interesting & newsworthy matchup, and also worth a few chuckles.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 02, 2008, 05:52:57 PM
I don't think Tom Curle and the Cardinals care either way.  They are in, they deserve a #1 seed and to be hosts.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
Knowing how cheap the NCAA is, my read on the Northeast/East sectional shapes up as follows if seeds hold

#1 Plattsburgh
#2 Trinity (NESCAC Champ)
#3 Amherst (#1 ranking)
#4 Brandeis (based on win %/OWP/OOWP)

Distance for these 4 teams if hosted by

Plattsburgh 726
Trinity 409
Amherst 340

(Granted Plattsburgh should have cheap hotel rooms compared to the other two).

Listed Gym capacity
Plattsburgh 1,000
Trinity 2,100
Amherst 1,800 (chuckle)

Major Media Market
Plattsburgh (No)
Amherst (No)
Hartford (Mid)

In '04-05 SJF Fisher was undefeated & #3 ranked, yet two Rochester teams and a Potsdam team had to travel to Amherst, whose students were on break and which wound up losing the first night.  Needless to say, ghostly gym on night #2.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dyce on March 02, 2008, 07:17:27 PM
Quick question: in the case of Plattsburgh making a bid to host, is there a chance they would offer the Field House Gym rather than Memorial?  I know that even since its renovation the playing surface has been called into question as suspect, and normally I'd take the cozier confines of Memorial any day, but the Field House has nonetheless held the high school sectional tournament since it was renovated, and the place can seat literally five times as many fans as Memorial.  It also has plenty of locker rooms and the same amenities as a connected ice arena that's hosted a number of NCAA games.

Of course, if Curle and his team are most comfortable at Memorial, that's obviously where they should lobby to play.  I'm just wondering at the feasibility of the other site.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on March 02, 2008, 07:33:23 PM
I'm very puzzled this year with the lack of respect that the east region gets.  It seems like every year we're viewed as the ugly stepchild when it comes to D3 basketball and maybe in previous seasons it was a deserved rap but I really think that this season is a different story!  In my opinion, the quality of D3 basketball in our region this season is as good as any other.  The SUNYAC conference was great this year with Plattsburgh(26 wins), Oswego(20 wins), Bport(19 wins), Geneseo (19 wins), and Cortland (19 wins).  Thats an incredible feat for one conference.  Not to mention Naz (20 wins--NCAA), Stevens (20 wins), Ithaca(17 wins-Reg. season E8 champs), and Fisher with 16 wins on a down year.  Then you've got the U of R who was #1 in the nation for a good part of the season and 3 decent teams from the LL in Vassar, SLU, and Hamilton.  I hope a few of these teams get rewarded for playing in a very competetive 07-08 region.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 02, 2008, 07:56:00 PM
"...Quick question: in the case of Plattsburgh making a bid to host, is there a chance they would offer the Field House Gym rather than Memorial?  I know that even since its renovation the playing surface has been called into question as suspect, and normally I'd take the cozier confines of Memorial any day, but the Field House has nonetheless held the high school sectional tournament since it was renovated, and the place can seat literally five times as many fans as Memorial.  It also has plenty of locker rooms and the same amenities as a connected ice arena that's hosted a number of NCAA games.

Of course, if Curle and his team are most comfortable at Memorial, that's obviously where they should lobby to play.  I'm just wondering at the feasibility of the other site..."

I don't believe there is any "bidding process" for team to host. The NCAA has representatives who "scope out" the potential #1 seeds (as they did in Plattsburgh this weekend) and somehow magically determine WHO gets to host.
If SJF got to host last year, Plattsburgh sure deserves to host this year.   And NO, Plattsburgh will NOT be using the field house for any college  basketball games.   One would think that the men's basketball team with the BEST Record in Division III  (26-2) should get to host something at their "home" gym as has been offered in the past.
IF not, they will still win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 02, 2008, 07:59:12 PM
The problem with the EAST region is that for as many really GOOD teams there are some real stinkers  ( SUNY Purchase  3-22 comes to mind).  Without that team on its schedule PLattsburgh Opponents winning percentage goes up significantly.   Nobody really pays attention to the actual scores and who played a tough SUNYAC  back to back weekend 2nd game less than 12 hours after the Friday nighter.  (including transportation time).  That is what makes the 16-0 during the regular SUNYAC season impressive.  Those long bus rides.  yuck
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2008, 08:11:24 PM
There is a bidding process.  The athletic department has to fill out a lengthy questionnaire and prepare a budget to be submitted to the NCAA in order to be considered for hosting.  The questionnaire includes questions about capacity of the venue, other activities (e.g. NCAA hockey) going on the same dates, whether the students are in session, and the costs to run the event (officials, head table, event staff) and how much they expect to return to the NCAA.

Teams have lost hosting opportunities in the past because of internal snafus on the campus.

I agree Plattsburgh should host, but with the way the East/Northeast is shaping up, a first round game against bottom seed Clarkson looks very likely to me.  Clarkson is the most dangerous team imaginable, they have a good big who can take over a game, and nothing to lose.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 12:08:06 AM
I'd rather play Brockport  :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2008, 01:01:08 AM
Quote from: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 12:08:06 AM
I'd rather play Brockport  :o

I think you partied too much after Saturday's win. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on March 03, 2008, 03:31:56 AM
Guys be serious- Plattsburgh should get a bye and let little ole Clarkson have a chance at Penn State- Behrend or Naz or even U of R.  That being said I truly hope that someone comes out of the east and "represents " well in the tournament.  And if you made me choose, I'd choose Plattsburgh!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 03, 2008, 06:34:47 AM
Cards--I have no comeback--I got to take whatever you dish out--LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2008, 09:31:24 AM
Scooterman,

According to D3Hoops projections, the last 4 Pool C bids went to Occidental, Buena Vista, Cal Lutheran, and Middlebury. Brockport and St. Lawrence were both left out. These are only their projections and they could be wrong about a couple of teams, but they correctly picked all of the Women's team except 1. That Geneseo loss hurt , but the semi-final loss to Oswego was the kiss of death. I truely am sorry, because the Golden Eagles could have done some damage. Tell your guys to put it behind them and kick some butt in the ECAC's.

Bids will be announced at noon today. Tune in to Hoopsville as they will have it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 10:19:46 AM
"...I think you partied too much after Saturday's win. ..."

I was in a hotel room writing a paper for my MBA degree and listening to the SUNYAC hockey game.
Then I was the designated driver :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 10:26:42 AM
I would love to see an ECAC final with Brockport and Oswego going at it.
The spolier (Oswego) vs the spoilee (BPort). 

Goes to 6 overtimes and it has to be decided with a two on two game  between
Nick and Jabbi  vs Sherrod and (pick someone).   The over under would have to be
180 points.  No defense up and down.  raining 3 pointers.     Water jugs flying.
Blizzard blowing outside the arena :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 03, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 03, 2008, 09:31:24 AM
Scooterman,

According to D3Hoops projections, the last 4 Pool C bids went to Occidental, Buena Vista, Cal Lutheran, and Middlebury. Brockport and St. Lawrence were both left out. These are only their projections and they could be wrong about a couple of teams, but they correctly picked all of the Women's team except 1. That Geneseo loss hurt , but the semi-final loss to Oswego was the kiss of death. I truely am sorry, because the Golden Eagles could have done some damage. Tell your guys to put it behind them and kick some butt in the ECAC's.

Bids will be announced at noon today. Tune in to Hoopsville as they will have it.

I ran the numbers,
IMHO Brockport, SLU & Oswego were bubble teams. 

The Oswego loss to Fredonia just killed their chances, and Brockport really needed the second win in the SUNYAC tournament to offset that three game losing streak at mid-season, and the regular season ending loss to Geneseo.  SLU had some tough losses early (e.g. Potsdam at Home) and didn't take care of business on the road at Union.  Then losing in the first round at home to Clarkson was the kiss of death.


All these teams needed to be at 4 or 5 losses in region to have had a shot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 12:56:35 PM
no Brockport     no Chapman    no Stevens

Go  Middlebury  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dyce on March 03, 2008, 01:27:50 PM
Yikes, what a difference a round makes: Clarkson might get their shot at Plattsburgh, but they're looking at a 650-mile detour through Wilkes-Barre (plus a little game of basketball) rather than an 88-mile jaunt across the Adirondacks if it's going to happen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 03:14:17 PM
I'm sure they are not complaining.   They could where Brockport or St Lawrence or St John Fisher is right now.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 03, 2008, 03:42:55 PM
Good luck to the Burg--Represent us well!!! I know the Eagles are disappointed but they controlled their destiny and didnt produce!!Bport has never won the ECAC's before so this would be a great time to do it--I hope they dont fall into that too disappointed to produce category that happens to many NCAA bubble teams. Anyway good luck and bring home a National Championship to the SUNY's.

It would be Sherod Harris and Brandon Williams in that two on two battle--Sounds like fun--My money is on Sherod and Brandon--Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dyce on March 03, 2008, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 03:14:17 PM
I'm sure they are not complaining.   They could where Brockport or St Lawrence or St John Fisher is right now.

Most certainly agreed.  I'm looking forward to Saturday at Memorial in any case, and all's the more fun if the Knights make it through.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 08:11:25 PM
come down behind the Plattsburgh bench and meet Magicman and myself. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2008, 11:07:14 PM
FREDONIA, N.Y. -  The nationally ranked Plattsburgh State men's basketball team took home the top awards for best coach and player of the year handed out by the State University of New York Athletic Conference on Monday.  Tom Curle and Anthony Williams were named the coach and player of the year both for the second straight season, and three Cardinals were All-SUNYAC selections.

Curle led Plattsburgh to its third-straight SUNYAC championship, completing a perfect 16-0 conference record for the program's first regular-season title under his five-year helm.  The Cardinals (26-2) lead the nation in victories heading into the NCAA Division III Tournament.

Williams (Morgan State University), a senior guard out of Paul Robeson High School in Brooklyn, averages 24.2 points per game to lead the SUNYAC's next-best mark by 7.0 ppg.  The 2008 SUNYAC Tournament MVP set school records for points in a season (677) and career (1,684).  He is a Jostens Trophy finalist in recognition as the best player in Division III.

Senior forward Travis Gorham (Bridgeport, Conn./Bridgeport Central HS/Post University) joined Williams on the first team, earning all-conference honors for the second time after being on the first team a year ago.  Gorham averaged 12.3 points and a conference-leading 11.0 rebounds while shooting 55.9 percent from the field.  He is a three-time SUNYAC All-Tournament choice, including MVP accolades as a junior.

A senior forward from Saratoga Springs High (Hudson Valley CC), Khylan Hunt was an all-SUNYAC second team choice after scoring 10.9 points and grabbing a career-high 7.8 rebounds per contest.

All-SUNYAC First Team:  Travis Gorham, Plattsburgh; Sherod Harris, Brockport; Scott Morton, Geneseo; Anthony Williams, Plattsburgh; Brandon Williams, Brockport.

All-SUNYAC Second Team:  Tom Downing, Oswego; Jeff Howe, Geneseo; Khylan Hunt, Plattsburgh; Mike Lewis, Cortland; Nick Perioli, Oswego.

All-SUNYAC Third Team:  Damon Brown, Potsdam; Alvin Dike, Potsdam; Bobby Fisk, Oneonta; Mahamoud Jabbi, Oswego; Mychal Wilkes, Brockport.

PLAYER OF THE YEAR--Anthony Williams, Plattsburgh;
ROOKIE OF THE YEAR--Dave Golembiowski, SUNYIT
COACH OF THE YEAR--Tom Curle, Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on March 03, 2008, 11:53:23 PM
If by some miracle the smoke & mirrors Clarkson Golden Knights do make it past Kings @ Wilkes Barre I'll be putting the miles on my jalopy and driving to the furtherest part of the state too.  Let's face it either team King's or the Knights are the "sacrificial lamb" after playing a game on Thurs and driving the gazillion millions of miles to play another game on Sat against one of the top ten teams in the nation!!  All the better for Platts as they'll be relatively fresh for the next round....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2008, 05:10:33 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 03, 2008, 11:53:23 PM
If by some miracle the smoke & mirrors Clarkson Golden Knights do make it past Kings @ Wilkes Barre I'll be putting the miles on my jalopy and driving to the furtherest part of the state too.  Let's face it either team King's or the Knights are the "sacrificial lamb" after playing a game on Thurs and driving the gazillion millions of miles to play another game on Sat against one of the top ten teams in the nation!!  All the better for Platts as they'll be relatively fresh for the next round....


Glad to hear that. I'll be rooting for Clarkson in hopes that you will have to make that long trip.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2008, 09:34:11 AM
Just in case anyone doesn't know. The Plattsburgh State game against the winner of the Kings College-Clarkson game starts at 7:00 Saturday evening.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bucketsallday on March 04, 2008, 06:02:19 PM
im an LL guy, so im not that familiar with the sunyac, but how do they only get one bid? did brockport struggle in non-conference play?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 04, 2008, 06:40:28 PM
Brockport squandered it's changes for an NCAA bid by losing it's final Regular season conference game to Geneseo and then played very poorly in it's semi-final round loss to Oswego State in the SUNYAC Tournament held in Plattsburgh.

They probably would have a bid now had they won vs Oswego and lost to Plattsburgn in the SUNYAC Finals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2008, 07:19:34 PM
I think the loss to St. Lawrence really hurt Brockport's chances.  From what I know of these things, two teams, same record, same approximate OWP & OOWP, head to head REALLY matters.

The loss to Geneseo really hurt Brockport, as that put them on the same W-L plane as SLU, then they both had bad losses before the finals of their conference Tournament.

Brockport & SLU both wound up 16-6 in region.

OWP - 'port .558. SLU .539
OOWP - 'port .538 SLU .516

SLU beat 'port 86-78
Brockport had no wins vs. Regionally Ranked Teams.

Result - ECAC's for Brockport, SLU on Spring Break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2008, 09:21:34 PM
I was informed today and asked to pass along the fact that Plattsburgh State TV will be televising the 2nd round game between Plattsburgh St and the Clarkson-Kings College winner. The game which starts at 7:00 on Saturday night will be a 1 hour tape delay and start at 8 PM. In order to receive the broadcast you have to be a Charter Commnications subscriber in the Plattsburgh region.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 04, 2008, 09:32:25 PM
A link to an article about Anthony Williams nomination for the
Jimmy V.  Comeback Award.

http://www.d3hoops.com/pressreleases.php?release=2231
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on March 05, 2008, 11:55:25 AM
Did not know the whole story behind Anthony Williams. I just want to say congrats to him and his family for being nominated for the Josten's Award and Jimmy V Comeback Award.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on March 05, 2008, 06:55:40 PM
Slicky- I agree.  I knew some of the story but not all of the story.  Congratulations are in order for Mr. Williams' accomplishments on the court and even moreso for the accomplishments off the court!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 05, 2008, 08:44:35 PM

   Cortland beats Medaille 81-69 for 20th win. Overcomes 7 pt. halftime deficit. Goes 30x61fg as six Dragons score double figures: R. Evans 14, W. Coston 13, M. Lewis 13 and 7 rebs, P. Oliver 12, J. Miolen 11. Meets Oswego in ECAC semi
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 05, 2008, 10:12:55 PM

   Oswego 85, Cazenovia 69

   Sixth double figure scorer for Cortland was C. Niehoff 12 pts. Oliver 8 rep, Miolen 6 rebs. Corts 30-8 run reversed 35-28 Medaille midway lead
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 05, 2008, 10:59:26 PM
2008 ECAC Division III Upstate Men's Basketball Championship

Seeds
No. 1 SUNY Brockport (19-8)
No. 2 SUNY Oswego (20-7)
No. 3 SUNY Cortland (19-7)
No. 4 St. John Fisher College (16-11)
No. 5 Vassar College (18-7)
No. 6 Medaille College (15-12)
No. 7 Cazenovia College (14-13)

First Round - Wednesday, March 5
SUNY Cortland 81, Medaille 69
SUNY Oswego 85, Cazenovia 69
St. John Fisher 68, Vassar 65

Semifinals - Saturday, March 8 at SUNY Brockport
#2 SUNY Oswego vs. #3 SUNY Cortland, 6:00 p.m.
#1 SUNY Brockport vs. #4 St. John Fisher, 8:00 p.m.

Championship - Sunday, March 9 at SUNY Brockport
Two Semifinal Winners, 2:00 p.m.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 06, 2008, 04:54:19 PM
If Brockport gets by the private school, I think the Oswego/Brockport game will be in the 100's.

They would be the 4th SUNYAC team with 20 or more wins. And Geneseo has 19.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2008, 06:55:33 PM
Wonder what the score would be if Brockport or Oswego ever played Grinnell??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 06, 2008, 07:38:23 PM
Seriously Bear... way too funny! :D Still good D3 hoops in northern New York in March... who could ask for anything more?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2008, 08:57:55 PM
Yeah & the Bear women are in the ECAC Upstate Semi's.  One more win & they set a school record with 17 wins.  Two years ago, they won 2.

I do see Clarkson got beat by a nice even 30!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2008, 09:05:50 PM
Plattsburgh State will take on Kings College Sat. 3-8 at 7:00 PM. Kings College pounded Clarkson tonight 96-66. Kings grabbed an early 20-4 lead 7 mins into the game and coasted to a 47-21 halftime lead. More of the same in the 2nd half. Clarkson got as close as 17 early in the 2nd but Kings opened up a 33 pt. lead and emptied the bench. The Kingsmen shot almost 65% from the 3 pt. line nailing 11x17. Hit 61% FG's for the game with 30x49. John Soboleski with 23 pts and 8 boards led the way followed by Jamie Cousart with 20 pts. 6 rebs. and 5 assists.
Clarkson was led by Brandon Linton with 17 pts.  Keith Murray and James Evans had 11 each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on March 07, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
Magic & Cards- was at the game for Kings vs Clarkson- my take on it is over on the liberty league board. Kings can give Plattsburgh a game if they shoot like they did Thursday.  Still like Plattsburgh though.  Good luck Cards!!!  Reek revenge for rabid rollicking northern ny fans!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2008, 12:28:44 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 07, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
Magic & Cards- was at the game for Kings vs Clarkson- my take on it is over on the liberty league board. Kings can give Plattsburgh a game if they shoot like they did Thursday.  Still like Plattsburgh though.  Good luck Cards!!!  Reek revenge for rabid rollicking northern ny fans!!!

Cards can crush Kingsmen cause Curle can coach.  You are the king of alliteration,  but I can still turn a phrase once in a while. Brings me back to my sports reporting days.

Seriously though, it looked like Kings softened up Clarkson early with their big guy Soboleski and then brought in the shooters off the bench.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2008, 02:15:12 AM
This is for Plattsburgh St. fans and Kings College fans who are traveling to the game on Sat. It's been snowing here since about 9 PM Fri. night.  It's now 2 AM Sat. morning and about 4 inches of snow has accumulated. Weather report says we're right on the edge of a warming trend and that the snow is supposed to change over to freezing rain, by morning, sleet and more rain in the afternoon. The old mixed bag. Total snowfall is 6-12 inches but depending on the temps we may get less than that in the immediate Champlain Valley. Hope to see Mrs Hunt and Mr. Ponesse at the game. And Mrs Hunt we've saved your seat. After all we have to protect that winning streak. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2008, 02:36:21 AM
Here's hoping that U of R and Plattsburgh St. can both make a run to the final 4 and give NYS hoops team something to be proud of. I can see Rochester doing just that as they have a good chance to host the sectionals.  Plattsburgh has a tough road ahead. If they get by Kings College, they'll face Brandeis or Bowdoin, and a win there and the prize is Amherst at Amherst in all probability.  Love to see a rematch of UR and Plattsburgh in the Semifinal
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 08, 2008, 11:53:55 AM
It's snowing up in Plattsburgh now.  In 7 hours it will be raining 3pointers.  :o

ECAC West Women's Ice Hockey semi-finals at the Field House, High School state basketball qualifiers at the Field house. NCAA basketball at Memorial Hall, (sold out).   And a college theatrical performance across the street from Memorial.  Parking will be an issue for sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 08, 2008, 11:56:33 AM
I believe the Cards are ready.  Kings (PA) better be hitting their shots or it is going to be a long game.
Their Point guard and the center are the BEST players.  The other guys are all outside shooters.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsportsfan on March 08, 2008, 07:56:43 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on March 06, 2008, 04:54:19 PM
If Brockport gets by the private school, I think the Oswego/Brockport game will be in the 100's.

They would be the 4th SUNYAC team with 20 or more wins. And Geneseo has 19.

Sadly, no Brockport/Oswego final.  Cortland 90-Oswego 80 in snowy Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dyce on March 08, 2008, 09:49:07 PM
83-77 Plattsburgh in OT over King's.  Great game, although I would expect both sides would take exception toward the officiating.  From a Plattsburgh perspective, for example, there's no denying King's big man John Soboleski played a fine game, but he was awarded some questionable fouls and allowed some fancy footwork in the paint all evening.  Clutch 3 by King's to send it into OT, made especially dramatic by the fact that it was one of those roll-around-the-rim 3s that don't seem possible.

Travis Gorham was a monster on the boards at both ends for Plattsburgh as usual, although foul trouble courtesy Soboleski kept him somewhat more tentative toward the end of the game.  Williams had a hot and cold night, hitting a few clutch 3s but making some mental errors by way of some ill-advised passes and a totally inexcusable 10-second call.  Wild game to watch, in any case, and Plattsburgh has to be happy just to have survived this one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bsportsfan on March 08, 2008, 10:17:44 PM
Brockport 81 Fisher 80 in ECAC semifinal.  Final tomorrow at 2 - Brockport vs Cortland
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2008, 10:18:44 PM
Plattsburgh State 83 Kings College 77 in Overtime.

Great game at sold out Memorial Hall tonight in Plattsburgh. Back and forth 1st half with neither team playing that well in the opening period . Kings opens a little daylight near the end of the 1st and grabs a 33-26 lead at the break. Plattsburgh comes out running to start the 2nd and closes to within 1 about 3 mins in. Back and forth action from that point on. Kings led 63-60 with 1:44 left in regulation when Plattsburgh fueled by Anthony Williams grabbed a 3 pt lead at 69-66 with 20 secs left. Vince Scalzo hit his 3rd 3 pointer of the night with 7 ticks remaining and the Cardinals didn't get off a good shot before the buzzer. In overtime Freshman Chris Ruiz who was 0-6 from the field at that point made 3 straight buckets to give the Cards a 75-70 lead. Kings would fight back to close to within 2 at 79-77 with 1:24 left in OT but could get no closer. Williams once again led Plattsburgh with 22 pts. on 6x27 fg, 3x8 3's 7x8 FT's 6 rebs & 4 assists. Antwane Miller had a big game for the Cards with a double-double of 16 pts on 6x9 fg 1x13's 3x4 FT's 11 rebounds(at 6' 0" tall) & 4 assists. Travis Gorham had another huge game also recording a double-double with 16 pts on 7x13 fg's 2x4 FT's and grabbed a game high 17 rebounds.
Kings was led by big man John Soboleski with 30 pts on 7x10 fg's and 16x23 FT's. He also had 8 rebs. Jamie Cousart and Kofi Dwebeng added 12 pts each and Scalzo finished with 10.
Plattsburgh was outshot 52% to 33% in the 1st half but came back to shoot 48% to 37% for Kings in the 2nd. The Cardinals were 15x22 from the charity stripe godd for 78.6% while Kings shot 69.6% from the line hitting 19-29 with Sobeleski taking 23 of those 29 attempts.  
Officiating was strange as they called every slight bump against Kings big man Sobeleski, but allowed the King's defenders to grab and hold Anthony Williams all night long. I don't know if he's got a jersey left they had a handful of it so many times. Hacked across both arms on at least 4 occasions with no call. Somebody needs to teach this crew what traveling is. First time all year I've mentioned poor officials but this crew was bad. One in particular was far and away the worst we've seen all year. Don't  know if it was everybody's favorite Lenny Rausch or not but he was 1 of the 3.

#7 ranked Plattsburgh now moves on to face #5 ranked Brandeis in the sectionals next Friday night. Probably at Amherst, but we're hoping that it could be here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 08, 2008, 11:30:40 PM

      Cortland by 47-35 at half. Oswego within 7 under 5' before CSter M. Schaller hoop stops momentum. Another later OSt push with 5 halted by C. Niehoff and Schaller free throws. Corts with 54-28 reb edge. Soph P. Oliver 28 pts(13x21fg), 13 rebs, 3 assts in 36'; soph M. Lewis 16 pts(7x12fg), 12 rebs in 32'; Niehoff 12 pts; J. Miolen 12 pts(6x12fg) in 19'; D. Fish 7 assts; W. Coston 4 assts. Oswego's T. Downing 38 pts(12x25fg, 5 3s, 9x10ft) in 39'; M. Jabbbi 11 pts, 5 blks; D. White 11 pts; N. Perioli 9 pts(2x10fg) in 40'. CSt bench outscores OSt spares 29-5. Corts 21-7, OSt 21-8
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 09, 2008, 03:18:19 AM
Officials at the Plattsburgh game

Nichols
Jayne
Len Paush - absolutely the WORST and most biased official I have EVER seen.  This is the third game he had PLattsburgh and that I have seen personally.  He has got a vendetta against A.Williams or just against Plattsburgh in general.  WHOEVER schedules referees for games better start going to games to see how this numbnut selfishly inserts himself into a game  instead of letting the players play. Officials with a paranoid attitude and rabbit ears should not be doing SUNYAC finals or NCAA games.   Absolutely PATHETIC conduct on his part, peering into the crowd and making faces to a jeering fan.  Not only did he abuse his power against Plattsburgh he missed at least 4 calls against King's.  Two out of bounds plays he gave to Pburgh. Not too difficult to figure out which dark arm knocked a ball out of bounds.   The big kid on King's needed NO HELP but got plenty of it from many questionable calls going his way.

King's was a very well coached team, and did their best to spoil our season.  Somehow, despite being pushed, pulled, hugged, slapped, and even tackled, Anthony Williams found a way to score 22 points. 

The two freshman Ruiz and Errol D.  played great. Ricky Rider hit two pressure FT's to tie the score at one time in the 2nd half. Gutzman played some great defense with many deflected passes.  Even the Big Guy RJ Ponesse performed the best he could considering Mr. Paush's interpretation of the game.

What a fantastic crowd, of students, parents, old, young and a great representation of almost every Cardinal sports team.  The entire baseball team, the girls of the softball team, hockey players, track and field, lacrosse and others.  Rowdy but not out of control.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 09, 2008, 06:09:56 AM
If Plattsburgh doesn't get the chance to host the next round of the NCAA Division III Men's Basketball tournament they can only blame themselves. If they had  first rate facilities then you go there.  There gym is not first rate.  To be honest its not even rated because its so bad.  I agree that Amherst isn't much better then Memorial Hall but its also not a long trip through the Adirondack Mountains in winter.  If the end were a great  place(Maxcy Hall) its an easy choice.  But Memorial Hall isn't a great place so why go there? 
 
FYI The NCAA Division III Mens Hockey finals are going to be played at the Herb Brooks Olympic Center in Lake Placid.  This goes to show that the NCAA will choose the Adirondacks but they also have to see a reward at the end.  Remember always follow the $$$$$.  I believe this is being sponsored by the SUNYAC and some schools in Vermont. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dyce on March 09, 2008, 07:41:19 AM
I certainly won't argue that Memorial is a detriment to Plattsburgh hosting a sectional, although your description makes it sound like a dumpy arena, which certainly isn't the case - it isn't poorly maintained, it's just tiny.  And if there's blame to be placed, it's on the relatively recent era of sustained success for the program: Plattsburgh has a perfectly sound 5,000-seat field house, but it was renovated largely with high school playoff hoops in mind since the college program's longstanding mediocrity made Memorial a far more appropriate venue.  Blaming the college for failing to predict that the basketball program would experience such a profound resurgence a few years after said renovation is more than a little suspect.

By the way, the hockey tournament's placement in Lake Placid, while almost certainly lucrative, was not really a monetary decision on the NCAA's part.  For one thing, northern New York's remote location is moot, since New York and Vermont teams dominate the division: since 1995, there has been a grand total of one champion from outside of the two states.  Additionally, the DIII hockey final four has traditionally been held on-campus, and there would be more than enough arenas - Oswego, Plattsburgh, Middlebury, Norwich, and Elmira, to name a few - able to generate comparable revenue for the final four.  The problem is given that the disparity in numbers between Eastern and Western DIII hockey programs almost guarantees a perennial 3-1 East-West split, along with the far greater number of suitable on-campus rinks in the East, the West has very little ground to stand on by way of hosting without the division making the move to neutral sites.  Ironically, the West has yet to arrange a neutral host for next season, so it might be back to the drawing board there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 09, 2008, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: bearnation on March 09, 2008, 06:09:56 AM
 
FYI The NCAA Division III Mens Hockey finals are going to be played at the Herb Brooks Olympic Center in Lake Placid.  This goes to show that the NCAA will choose the Adirondacks but they also have to see a reward at the end.  Remember always follow the $$$$$.  I believe this is being sponsored by the SUNYAC and some schools in Vermont. 


Actually your alma mater (Potsdam) is the sponsoring institution along with the ORDA.  We will provide sports medicine, assist with sports information and other roles as needed.  The finals are on Easter Sunday. 
I don't think the driver is money, but rather that the Eastern teams that typically make the tournament (If form follows rankings, Elmira, Plattsburgh, Manhattanville) all have distinct home ice advantages and that a neutral site is fairer for everyone. 

There's so much history in Lake Placid, and with our 2 feet of new snow in the last week, the place will be packed on this early Easter weekend.

Back & the day, Coach Welsh & I talked about putting a bid in to host D-III basketball at Lake Placid, last I knew, they have the old portable floor from Cobo Hall in Detroit (bought it from Glens Falls), and use it when the Globetrotters come to town.  Then he moved on to Iona.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 09, 2008, 11:32:21 AM
Having been to Amherst for the Elite 8 trip Potsdam took us on a few years back I can honestly say that I believe Memorial is a much better site.  Even though Memorial has  some issues with deferred maintenance it seats more (don't give me capacity numbers as I have been to both), has better parking (can you say off campus a 1/2 mile down the road @ Amherst vs. right across the street within 40 to 100 yards), has concessions (Amherst had none) and is a far better atmosphere to watch a game (the place will be packed and a lot of fun for players and fans).  I still remember the Amherst v UofR game that year... the place was far better, atmosphere wise, during the Potsdam v Fisher game! 

Memorial needs an upgrade... that much most agree on... however, it still does the job and the Cardinals know how to treat people during tournament time... just check out the numerous times they have hosted in hockey for both men and women.  Amherst, well, they seem to get by on reputation alone... oh yeah, that and a heck of a good team.  Just my two cents...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 09, 2008, 01:02:01 PM
Pleased to hear that the Cards have been awarded the sectional. 

The Plattsburgh students go on break on Friday but the dorms are open until noon Saturday, so they should have a good crowd for Friday. Amherst students are also on break starting that Friday as is Richard Stockton.  Brandeis has a February break, and  is in session that weekend.

With the Cards Hockey team ranked #3 and already having clinched the automatic bid, Plattsburgh will be a mecca for NCAA sports next weekend.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2008, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 09, 2008, 01:02:01 PM
Pleased to hear that the Cards have been awarded the sectional. 

The Plattsburgh students go on break on Friday but the dorms are open until noon Saturday, so they should have a good crowd for Friday. Amherst students are also on break starting that Friday as is Richard Stockton.  Brandeis has a February break, and  is in session that weekend.

With the Cards Hockey team ranked #3 and already having clinched the automatic bid, Plattsburgh will be a mecca for NCAA sports next weekend.


thebear,

Thank you for that great piece of news. I was hoping that the NCAA would see fit to award the sectional to Plattsburgh but didn't really expect it to happen. We had the limo already set to make the trip to Amherst. Let me know if you are thinking about coming over and I'll get tickets for you.

Plattsburgh St. Women's Hockey team also ranked #1 in the nation. They are playing in the ECAC West final today against Elmira for the automatic bid to the NCAA's.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 09, 2008, 04:12:42 PM

   Brockport 70-61 over Cortland. Late first half run provides 34-20 Port margin. CSt shaves to 7 early in second half and comes within 6 on occasion. Eagles always answer, Sherod Harris usually focal point. Hit winning hoop vs. Fisher at :17 on Sat. Today, Harris 18 pts(6x15fg), 5 assts in 36'; B. Williams 14 pts, 13 rebs, 3 stls; J. Johnson 12 pts; C. Parrish 10 pts. Port 25x63fg, 16x22ft. Corts P. Oliver 20 pts(6x8fg, 8x8ft), 14 rebs in 33'; fr R. Evans 14 pts in 25'; M. Lewis 4 assts, 5 stls, 9 pts, 4pf in 26'. CSt 23x61fg, 11x12ft, 22 trnvrs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 09, 2008, 05:23:18 PM
"....With the Cards Hockey team ranked #3 and already having clinched the automatic bid, Plattsburgh will be a mecca for NCAA sports next weekend....."

Three weeks in a row  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on March 09, 2008, 07:50:41 PM
magic-  nice  -- Go Cards!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dyce on March 09, 2008, 08:52:04 PM
So..........just to sum up next Saturday:


I say we tell the students they're staying in town another day, close the road, and open the beer tents.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 09, 2008, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: Dyce on March 09, 2008, 08:52:04 PM

I say we tell the students they're staying in town another day, close the road, and open the beer tents.

For that matter, have them stay until Monday, we all know the 'burgh's reputation for St. Paddy's Day.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dyce on March 09, 2008, 09:13:24 PM
Quote
For that matter, have them stay until Monday, we all know the 'burgh's reputation for St. Paddy's Day.

Which is why starting some years ago, Plattsburgh's spring break mysteriously began always always always coinciding with the week where St. Patrick's day fell (things were starting to get just a little out of hand  ;) )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 09, 2008, 09:33:10 PM
"...(things were starting to get just a little out of hand   )...."

Things were out of hand back in 1979-80  :-\

At least from what I can remember :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2008, 12:29:03 AM
This weekend's NCAA Sectional at Plattsburgh

Friday March 14th

6:00 Amherst vs Richard Stockton

8:00 Plattsburgh State vs Brandeis


Saturday game is TBA but it would probably be Sat. night at 7:00
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2008, 01:12:12 AM
Quote from: Bear Fan on March 09, 2008, 11:32:21 AM
Having been to Amherst for the Elite 8 trip Potsdam took us on a few years back I can honestly say that I believe Memorial is a much better site.  Even though Memorial has  some issues with deferred maintenance it seats more (don't give me capacity numbers as I have been to both), has better parking (can you say off campus a 1/2 mile down the road @ Amherst vs. right across the street within 40 to 100 yards), has concessions (Amherst had none) and is a far better atmosphere to watch a game (the place will be packed and a lot of fun for players and fans).  I still remember the Amherst v UofR game that year... the place was far better, atmosphere wise, during the Potsdam v Fisher game! 

Memorial needs an upgrade... that much most agree on... however, it still does the job and the Cardinals know how to treat people during tournament time... just check out the numerous times they have hosted in hockey for both men and women.  Amherst, well, they seem to get by on reputation alone... oh yeah, that and a heck of a good team.  Just my two cents...

Thanks for your vote of confidence. Plus k.  We wish we had a better facility but we do feel we can put on a good show with what we have. And as you stated, good on-site parking close by, a concession stand and a rockin Memorial Hall.

#7 ranked Plattsburgh St. will certainly have their work cut out for them this weekend if they want to advance to the Final Four. Their sectional is arguabley the toughest of the 4. #5 ranked Brandeis is possibly the best team in the UAA and was ranked higher than any of the 4 teams from that conference that made the NCAA tournament. And if they get by Brandeis they will probably face defending champs #3 Amherst. With only 8 teams from D3Hoops top 25 poll remaining in the field, 3 of them are in the Plattsburgh sectional.

Cardinals need to be clicking on all cylinders to keep that home winning streak alive through this weekend. The Plattsburgh seniors will be on a mission though, as they don't want to end their college playing days with a loss on their home court. Go Cards!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on March 10, 2008, 09:33:52 AM
The link below is to an article appearing in the March 10th NY Times:

THE SCHOLARSHIP DIVIDE
Athletic Scholarships: Expectations Lose to Reality

This is a must read for high school athletes and their parents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/sports/10scholarships.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 10, 2008, 07:56:50 PM
Hey,

I'm looking for Plattsburgh's boxscore for their game against King's.  Anyone have any idea where to find it?  If you find it, can you please post it in the d3 national pick em board?  Or send me an IM. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 10, 2008, 08:11:29 PM
Box score sent to you via Personal Message
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: walzy31 on March 11, 2008, 10:35:58 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 10, 2008, 12:29:03 AM
This weekend's NCAA Sectional at Plattsburgh

Friday March 14th

6:00 Amherst vs Richard Stockton

8:00 Plattsburgh State vs Brandeis


Saturday game is TBA but it would probably be Sat. night at 7:00
Amherst -8.5 Vs. Richard Stockton at Plattsburgh
Brandeis -13 @ Plattsburgh
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 11, 2008, 02:19:50 PM
Great Bulletin Board material Walzy... Not In The Bulb tried that with Potsdam a few years back before we knocked St. John Fisher off.  All four teams made it this far and are obviously doing a lot of things right.  I'll let them play the score out on the court.  Should be two great nights of hoops in the North Country! Have a nice drive up...

Go Cards!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on March 11, 2008, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on March 11, 2008, 02:19:50 PM
Great Bulletin Board material Walzy... Not In The Bulb tried that with Potsdam a few years back before we knocked St. John Fisher off.  All four teams made it this far and are obviously doing a lot of things right.  I'll let them play the score out on the court.  Should be two great nights of hoops in the North Country! Have a nice drive up...

Go Cards!

Um, I don't ever remember staunchly supporting Fisher. At anything. Ever. I may have thought they'd win that game. Call me crazy for thinking an undefeated team would win a Sweet 16 game. I mean, I must have really been off my rocker for that thought.

Turns out I was wrong. Ever been wrong, Bear Fan? If not, I recommend it. Gives one a whole new perspective on things.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 11, 2008, 05:47:54 PM
I've been wrong plenty!  I was just saying that I remember some of your posts as giving some good board fodder for our team... that is all... still entitled to your opinion...love your stuff, big fan... and so is Walzy by the way... entitled to his opinion that is...just making a statement.  :D

Go Cards!

Tried to go back to the old stuff but the information only goes back to right after U of R beat the Bears... remember some good Garbage plate discussions during that time as well...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: walzy31 on March 11, 2008, 10:25:26 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on March 11, 2008, 02:19:50 PM
Great Bulletin Board material Walzy... Not In The Bulb tried that with Potsdam a few years back before we knocked St. John Fisher off.  All four teams made it this far and are obviously doing a lot of things right.  I'll let them play the score out on the court.  Should be two great nights of hoops in the North Country! Have a nice drive up...

Go Cards!
Driving up from DC would be insane. Unfortunately, I will be one of the internet radio listeners. Should be one hell of a weekend of ball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2008, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: walzy31 on March 11, 2008, 10:35:58 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 10, 2008, 12:29:03 AM
This weekend's NCAA Sectional at Plattsburgh

Friday March 14th

6:00 Amherst vs Richard Stockton

8:00 Plattsburgh State vs Brandeis


Saturday game is TBA but it would probably be Sat. night at 7:00
Amherst -8.5 Vs. Richard Stockton at Plattsburgh
Brandeis -13 @ Plattsburgh
-

Friday's game between Amherst & Richard Stockton is now listed with a start time of 5:30. Apparently You can buy a ticket for either Friday night game, but will need 2 tickets to see both games on Friday as the gym will be cleared after the 1st game.

The Saturday night game has been announced as 7:00.

Walzy,
I think your spreads are a little skewed. Correct line is:

Amherst -11 vs. Richard Stockton

Plattsburgh -3.5 vs Brandeis

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 11, 2008, 11:47:46 PM
"...but will need 2 tickets to see both games on Friday as the gym will be cleared after the 1st game..."

Oh yeah, that will work :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 11, 2008, 11:52:02 PM
Congrats to the Burg--I just completed my move to Tampa, Florida just in time for the First Round of the NCAA's as Tampa is hosting. Anyone seen who might be coming here!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2008, 01:23:49 AM
Quote from: scooterman on March 11, 2008, 11:52:02 PM
Congrats to the Burg--I just completed my move to Tampa, Florida just in time for the First Round of the NCAA's as Tampa is hosting. Anyone seen who might be coming here!!!

Scooterman,
I 'll let you know on Sunday night right after they announce the 65 team field. Some of us are good, but we can't read the minds of the NCAA selection committee.

And let me guess, you ran all the way to Florida cause the Port didn't win the SUNYACS.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 12, 2008, 10:10:04 AM
Hey Magic--No, not really, my kids and grandkids live here and my wife wants to be close to them. Anyway, I hope the Burg wins it all,even though the Port is better(LOL). I want a national champion from the SUNYAC's --Then maybe we will get some respect. I still can't believe only 4 teams from NYS are worthy of NCAA bids. Sorry--Go Burg!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 12, 2008, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: scooterman on March 12, 2008, 10:10:04 AM
I want a national champion from the SUNYAC's --Then maybe we will get some respect. Go Burg!!!

We already do - Potsdam won 2 in men's basketball, time for the Cards to join that lofty company.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2008, 01:46:09 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 12, 2008, 10:31:26 PM
Bear--I know Potsdam won two back in the day but I mean within the last 10 years--The East gets no respect except for the UofR because they play in the UAA--I think you will agree with that--Four teams out of the East--What's with that--
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age comes? on March 13, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
Scooter- I agree that NYS gets very little respect. We do have 2 out of the four teams still in the sweet sixteen.  I've already said that I think the problem with the NY leagues (if you want to call it that) is parity. In the e-8 (or e-9) and SUNYAC the top 5 or 6 teams take turns beating each other (with the exception of the esteemed Cards of course).  In the LL the whole league is competitive with the possible exception of Skidmore.  That being said all the losses mount up while teams like Mass - Dartmouth has a bunch of league opponents that couldn't beat the elite teams in the league with a "beating machine".  Hence a gaudy record, hence a pool bid when I wouldn't be surprised if B-port, Oswego, Cortland & maybe even Geneseo could beat Mass-Dartmouth. Heck ,if I'm right ,I think Mass-Dart got beat twice by a team that lost to New Paltz!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 13, 2008, 02:09:47 AM
Yeah - & if you look at the teams the NESCAC plays non-conference, that's why they have such a strong strength of schedule, they beat up on so called "good" teams from weak leagues.  There are so many teams in their region, they can pick & choose who they deem to play.

Most of the teams you mentioned from the SUNYAC are making the effort to beef up their non-conference schedule, but the conference schedule is what it is, and we do tend to devour each other through familiarity, and long tough Friday night/Saturday afternoon road trips.

The stars are aligned for the Cards to make it to the final four, they just have to rely on their senior leadership to get it done.

I think Plattsburgh matches up well with Brandeis.  I think the Cards have the edge in the paint with Gorham, Hunt & Daniyan coming off the bench.  Williams & Miller will be challenged, and again Ruiz will have to produce from the bench.

Cards have to take no prisoners on D, get out on the threes, take care of the ball, and use their athleticism on the boards.  If Brandeis has a weakness, they aren't a great rebounding team. . .Plattsburgh is.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2008, 05:35:27 AM
Quote from: with age comes? on March 13, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
Scooter- I agree that NYS gets very little respect. We do have 2 out of the four teams still in the sweet sixteen.  I've already said that I think the problem with the NY leagues (if you want to call it that) is parity. In the e-8 (or e-9) and SUNYAC the top 5 or 6 teams take turns beating each other (with the exception of the esteemed Cards of course).  In the LL the whole league is competitive with the possible exception of Skidmore.  That being said all the losses mount up while teams like Mass - Dartmouth has a bunch of league opponents that couldn't beat the elite teams in the league with a "beating machine".  Hence a gaudy record, hence a pool bid when I wouldn't be surprised if B-port, Oswego, Cortland & maybe even Geneseo could beat Mass-Dartmouth. Heck ,if I'm right ,I think Mass-Dart got beat twice by a team that lost to New Paltz!!!!

with age,
You're partially correct. Keene State was the team from the Little East Conference
that New Paltz beat and Keene St. finished 3rd in their league behind UMASS-Dartmouth and Rhode Island. Keene St lost at  Mass-Dartmouth 100-97 in OT the 1st time they played them and turned the tables on their home court winning 92-85 in OT. This same Keene St. team also beat another NCAA bound team, Lasell, who won the automatic bid from the Great Northeast Athletic Conference. Three times Keene St. played Rhode Island and came up just short, losing by 4 in OT, by 4 the 2nd time they played, and by 5 in their conference tournament. I stated back in late Jan. that Mass-Dartmouth would probably finish in the middle of the pack if they played in our SUNYAC league and couldn't understand why they were being given such a lofty national ranking. Took a lot of heat at the time for saying that.  On Feb. 5th or 6th I stated on the Top 25 board that Keene St. would beat a then 20-0 Mass-Dartmouth team that was ranked #2 in the D3Hoops poll. I didn't hear much from their fans after that happened. Rhode Island then beat them twice after that. Still, going into the last week of the season they were ranked ahead of Plattsburgh at #5. Only when they lost to Rhode Island and failed to win their automatic bid did they drop behind Plattsburgh in the poll as we rose to #7 and they fell to #10. Needless to say I didn't have them winning a 1st round game when I filled out my brackets. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: BuzzBurgh on March 13, 2008, 10:12:54 AM
Regarding the the big three this weekend (Amherst, Brandeis, and Plattsburgh) and their conferences, have you had a chance to check out the computerized Massey Ratings: http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=6
It is interesting to note that in the top 60 teams the NESCAC has 7 teams, the UAA has 6 teams, and SUNY has 3 teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: theBroadcaster on March 13, 2008, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: BuzzBurgh on March 13, 2008, 10:12:54 AM
Regarding the the big three this weekend (Amherst, Brandeis, and Plattsburgh) and their conferences, have you had a chance to check out the computerized Massey Ratings: http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=6
It is interesting to note that in the top 60 teams the NESCAC has 7 teams, the UAA has 6 teams, and SUNY has 3 teams.

It's also interesting to note that while the UAA is the number 1 ranked conference in the Massey and the NESCAC is third, the SUNYAC is just 28th.  So while maybe the SUNYAC's top teams are legit, they just haven't faced the same quality teams day in and day out.  The depth of the NESCAC, and esp. the UAA, is where those conferences jump out.  Not to take anything away from what Plattsburgh's done this year, to win that many in a row you have to be good, but its just that the bottom teams of the NESCAC and UAA would probably still be right near the top of the SUNYAC.  I guess we'll truly answer how much of a factor the strength of schedule really is friday night....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 13, 2008, 01:06:54 PM
Thanks for all the commentary on the leagues--I sure hope the
Burg gets to the Final Four--If my beloved Eagles can't, then Go Burg!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 13, 2008, 04:55:44 PM
Scooter,

Thanks for supporting the Cards! Birds of a feather - Eagles and Cards - SUNYAC!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 14, 2008, 08:33:58 AM
I am SUNYAC all the way--Spent alot of years in that conference--Good Luck
Burg--
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 14, 2008, 04:31:12 PM
To all attending the games... enjoy!  To the Cards... do the SUNYAC proud and take the next step to the Final 4!  Wish I could be there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: theBroadcaster on March 14, 2008, 05:38:57 PM
For everyone who can't make it into Memorial Hall tonight, WBRS 100.1FM Waltham, the Brandeis University Radio Station, has made the trip up to Plattsburgh to broadcast the game tonight.  You can listen live online to the broadcast at www.wbrs.org
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on March 14, 2008, 10:37:49 PM
Congratulations!

2007-08 NCAA III Sweet 16

Plattsburg State Cardinals

A Growing Tradition




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2008, 11:16:02 PM
Great game tonight at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. Unfortunately Plattsburgh St ended up on the short end of a 74-63 ballgame. The Cards and the Judges played a back and forth 1st half with neither team gaining much of an advantage and with 3 1/2 mins to go the score was tied at 28. Brandeis closed with an 11-2 run to grab a 39-30 lead at the break. Plattsburgh was hampered by foul problems as Anthony Williams was called for his 3rd foul with about 5 mins. left in the half and was taken out of the game. The 2nd half was more of the same with Brandeis maintaining their lead but the Cardinals slowly chipped away and finally pulled to within 2 around the 7 min. mark. Plattsburgh finally caught the Judgesat 56 apiece with 4:50 to go, but Brandeis came down and hit a 3 to re-capture the lead and were never headed. Another 3 by Joe Coppens extended their lead to 6 and they stretched it to 8 at 66-58 with 1:52 remaining. Plattsburgh cut it to 5 on a 3 pointer by Williams but would get no closer as the Judges hit their foul shots to close the game out. Brandeis was led by Andre Roberson, who came off the bench to score 20 pts. Joe Coppens knocked down 4 treys to finish with 16 pts, and Terrell Hollins chipped in with 14.
Plattsburgh State All American Williams led all scorers with 28 pts, Antwane Miller had 12 pts. and Travis Gorham added 11 to pace the Cardinals. 
Congratulations to Brandeis for their success tonight and good luck against Amherst tomorrow night. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 15, 2008, 01:37:14 AM
From a Cardinal Fan!!

My hats off to Brandeis for a great game. Roberson was terrific throughout the first half and the remainder of the contest. It seemed that Plattsburgh tied the game at 56-56 then ran out of gas. Olson's trey after the Cards had used up a lot of energy to tie the game was huge. Even bigger was "Big Shot Joe's" Coppens three after a wild scramble.

A tough call on Williams in the first half really hurt Plattsburgh. After he went out of the game the Judges went on a 16-4 run to close out the half. 39-30 at the break.

The Cards came out and played terrific defense earlier in the second half but could not convert.

Brandeis spectator bus was a big boost to their team. They were vocal and in to the game throughout. To bad there were some empty seats in their section that some one from Plattburgh could have sat in. Reportedly no one rooting for Plattsburgh was allowed to sit behind the Brandeis bench? Someone stated that it was an NCAA rule? Who knew. The only people that I noticed that were not from Brandeis were some coaches and players from Trinity. They seemed to be pulling for Brandeis. 

Should be a good game tomorrow night. Two really well coached teams going head to head.

Great job by the Cards this year!! They have nothing to be ashamed of at all. They are part of history. Some say one of the best teams ever in Plattsburgh. The 1976 team went to the Final Four but these guys have to rate right up there. Thanks senior class for a memorable four years. You have set a terrific standard for Plattsburgh Basketball!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 15, 2008, 02:00:39 AM
"...Reportedly no one rooting for Plattsburgh was allowed to sit behind the Brandeis bench? Someone stated that it was an NCAA rule? Who knew..."

IF you were sitting behind the Plattsburgh bench near a guy with a red polo shirt on that was me.
I only said what the NCAA Regional Committee Chairman told me, and repeated by Scott the softball coach at Plattsburgh who was facilities mgr.     If they stopped selling tickets and had as many unsold tickets as empty seats in the gym, that was terrible. This was the smallest crowd in the past three weeks in that gym. Considering the baseball team (25+) had already left for games, and it was break time, the student section was pretty good (and loud).    The NCAA has some funky odd ball rules for these tournaments.

One final comment about officials.  I know and respect that doing that job is difficult under any circumstances, but if any of you officials "lurk" on these boards, please understand something.  You are their to officiate NOT to insert yourselves and you bias into the game.  To the few who payed more attention to the crowd than the game for the past couple of weeks during Plattsburgh games.  Get over yourselves.   If you don't like the comments, do your job better, learn to get position or admit you missed a call.  Don't "make up" or "guess" what happened. To the extremely biased MR, R who used to actually PLAY  ??? one time at LeMoyne;  you have got to be the most laughable excuse for a fair minded person I have ever witnessed.  IF you have a problem with people who don't look like you, then you seriously need to find a new profession.  It's pretty sad when you take out your hangups on 18-21 year old young men.  Your smarmy attitude makes the job more difficult for the others in your profession who actually try to do a fair minded job.

I am talking about 3-4 officials out of about 24 different ones.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 15, 2008, 10:31:52 AM
Plattsburgh State Softball Coach and Facility manager's name is Sean. Sean Cotter! You were right about the attendance Cards 7580. I know a lot of people that wanted to attended this game from the community but were shut out because of NCAA policy. Definitely the smallest crowd that Plattsburgh has played in front of in some time. Even with the baseball team in Florida and other students on spring break the student section was still loud. Brandeis student section was great. Amherst section was mostly parents and alumni. Richard Stockton section was non existent. I hope they (Stockton) were not alloted 200 tickets with their showing of support? If they were why doesn't the NCAA let these teams return their unsold tickets and they can be sold at the dooor?

Hats off to the guy dressed as the referee!!!!!!! He remained limber throughout with his stretching and sprints. He came out of the bleachers from right behind were the Amherst players were sitting. I could see they all had huge grins on their faces when "The referee" went in to his act. The referee's were also grinning ear to ear!!

I thought the officials did a fairly good job during this sectional. The first crew was an Albany based trio. I noticed one guy from the second grouping was from the Syracuse area but not sure about the other two.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 15, 2008, 12:02:31 PM
Congrats to the SUNY Plattsburgh Mens Basketball Team on a great season.  Undefeated in the conference is an Awesome achievement.  You represented your school, conference, and Northern New York well.
Northern New York is a great place. If you have a chance, go to the Frozen Four at the Olympic Center in Lake Placid next weekend.  I plan on attending because there is no sports complex in the United States with more history then the 1980 Lake Placid Olympic Center(Herb Brooks Arena). Its a great place to watch a game and when you go inside it still feels like 1980 and Yes it is being hosted by a great SUNYAC institution.
One Northern New York basketball team left.  Its off to Glens Falls to see if the Chateaugay Bulldogs can be the first team to bring a state title to Section 10 and Northern New York.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 15, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: bearnation on March 15, 2008, 12:02:31 PM
Congrats to the SUNY Plattsburgh Mens Basketball Team on a great season.  Undefeated in the conference is an Awesome achievement.  You represented your school, conference, and Northern New York well.
Northern New York is a great place. If you have a chance, go to the Frozen Four at the Olympic Center in Lake Placid next weekend.  I plan on attending because there is no sports complex in the United States with more history then the 1980 Lake Placid Olympic Center(Herb Brooks Arena). Its a great place to watch a game and when you go inside it still feels like 1980 and Yes it is being hosted by a great SUNYAC institution.
One Northern New York basketball team left.  Its off to Glens Falls to see if the Chateaugay Bulldogs can be the first team to bring a state title to Section 10 and Northern New York.


Bearnation!

Thanks for the kudo!! Plattsburgh had a great season!!

P.S.

If you hear from John Guida tell him we miss his post at D-3hoops.com!!! Back in the day - 90's, Guida and I use to have a lot of fun on this sight. That was before everyone had to identify who they were!! That was a blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 15, 2008, 12:46:55 PM
That isn't an NCAA policy, about not selling the seats behind the opposing bench. Must be something the NCAA rep on site made up. They do reserve seating behind the bench for that team but they won't leave seats empty if the team can't fill them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 15, 2008, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: bearnation on March 15, 2008, 12:02:31 PM
One Northern New York basketball team left.  Its off to Glens Falls to see if the Chateaugay Bulldogs can be the first team to bring a state title to Section 10 and Northern New York.


Not quite true, The women's teams from Malone, Madrid Waddington (coached by Potsdam alum Gary Tischler)  & Hammond are still alive in the women's tournament.  M-W plays in the semi's this afternoon, Malone in the finals tonight, and Hammond (defending St. Champs) in the finals tomorrow.

Heard on ESPN today that Potsdam alum Tim Welsh was let go by Providence.  He had a good ten year run, and lots of D-I jobs already open.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 16, 2008, 07:19:24 AM
Was Lenny his normal unpleasant self?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 16, 2008, 12:14:10 PM
The Chateaugay Bulldogs are the first Boys Basketball team from Section X to win a New York State Basketball Title.  Since this is the mens side of the chat line didn't think I had to be that clear. Sorry. They played one hell of a team game. Never close they were up double digits most of the game.  The four senior starters have been playing togehter since CYO days.  If anyone has ever visited Chateaugay it isn't large.  I joked with my uncle that the entire town was at the game in Glens Falls.
I see that the Plattsburgh Cardinals are going to Lake Placid which is good for the SUNYAC and the frozen four.  Hope to see lots of red and white in Lake Placid!
Potsdam and Plattsburgh are rivals but at the end we can come together for a beer!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 16, 2008, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: bearnation on March 16, 2008, 12:14:10 PM
The Chateaugay Bulldogs are the first Boys Basketball team from Section X to win a New York State Basketball Title.  Since this is the mens side of the chat line didn't think I had to be that clear. Sorry. They played one hell of a team game. Never close they were up double digits most of the game.  The four senior starters have been playing togehter since CYO days.  If anyone has ever visited Chateaugay it isn't large.  I joked with my uncle that the entire town was at the game in Glens Falls.
I see that the Plattsburgh Cardinals are going to Lake Placid which is good for the SUNYAC and the frozen four.  Hope to see lots of red and white in Lake Placid!
Potsdam and Plattsburgh are rivals but at the end we can come together for a beer!!

Or a Bear!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully Back to Back Champions for SUNYAC. Oswego - 2007 Champs!!! Plattsburgh -2008!!!???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2008, 10:52:37 PM
And lets not forget the #1 ranked Plattsburgh State Women's Hockey team, who will be hosting the Final Four this weekend at Stafford Field House Ice Arena. They'll also be looking to give the SUNYAC conference back to back championships, by repeating as National Champs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 17, 2008, 08:00:45 AM
Good Luck Lady Cards!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 18, 2008, 10:00:42 AM
Glad to hear Tom Murphy is being honored by the NABC!! He was a terrific coach at Hamilton. One of the best all time in Division III. If Hamilton was involved in the NCAA's in the 80's he most likely would have given Jerry Welsh's teams a run for their money. The Bears were great back then and so were the Continentals!!

He now sits on the bench at Northeastern as an Assistant coach to one of his former players!! I hope you enjoy the moment Murph!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 19, 2008, 11:01:49 AM
Men's All-East Region Team
Players were nominated for these awards by the Sports Information Directors at the various schools. All SIDs in the region were given the opportunity to vote.

Player of the Year: Anthony Williams, Plattsburgh State
Coach of the Year: Tom Curle, Plattsburgh State
Rookie of the Year: Dave Golembiowski, SUNYIT

First team

Pos.   Player   School   Yr.   Hometown
G   Anthony Williams   Plattsburgh State   Sr.   Brooklyn, N.Y.
G   Sherod Harris           Brockport State    Sr.   Rochester, N.Y.
F   Brandon Williams   Brockport State           Sr.   Rochester, N.Y.
F   Travis Gorham       Plattsburgh State   Sr.   Bridgeport, Conn.
C   Jon Onyiriuka           Rochester                   Sr.   Painted Post, N.Y.

Second team

Pos.   Player   School   Yr.   Hometown
G   Sean Burton   Ithaca            Jr.   Yorkville, N.Y.
G   Nick Perioli   Oswego State   Sr.   Liverpool, N.Y.
F   Jeff Bostic         Ithaca            Jr.   Rochester, N.Y.
F   John Grazioli   Hobart            Sr.   Melville, N.Y.
C   Mark Carson   Rochester Tech     Jr.   Voorheesville, N.Y.

Congrats to the SUNYAC representatives in the region.  Actually to everyone named.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 19, 2008, 02:34:47 PM
Vassar's Lawrence Avitabile should be on this list as well. My apologies.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 19, 2008, 05:11:40 PM
Not sure if this made it on the SUNYAC board. If it did my apologies!!

All Sectional Team Announced from Plattsburgh Host Site

#4 - Mario Lancioni - Richard Stockton
#5 - Joe Coppens - Brandeis
#11 - Anthony Williams - Plattsburgh State
#32 - Fletcher Walters - Amherst
#1 - Andrew Olson - Amherst

2008 Plattsburgh State Sectional M.V.P - Andrew Olson - Amherst
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 20, 2008, 09:03:18 PM
Quote from: scooterman on March 11, 2008, 11:52:02 PM
Congrats to the Burg--I just completed my move to Tampa, Florida just in time for the First Round of the NCAA's as Tampa is hosting. Anyone seen who might be coming here!!!

Scooter,

I see you got Drake vs Western Kty. & UConn vs San Diego.  Drake and UConn should win 1st round games and Drake sneaks by UConn to get to the Sweet Sixteen. Hope you get to see the games. Have Fun.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 23, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
Plattsburgh St. Men's Hockey team beat Elmira Saturday 6-3 and will play for the National Championship Sun. afternoon at 4:00 in the Herb Brooks Arena at the Olympic Center in Lake Placid. They will face St Norbert who beat Norwich 3-0 in the other semi-final.

Plattsburgh St. Women's Hockey team repeat as National Champions by defeating Manhattanville Sat. eve in Plattsburgh. I think the score was 3-1. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on March 23, 2008, 01:48:40 AM
Top 10 reasons for a trip to the Final Four

1.   Salem hospitality: inviting, warm, and southern

2.   The Salem Civic Center: a classic arena, great staff, acres of parking, and fresh popcorn

3.   65 and Sunny

4.   A spacious, hospitality suite at the Roanoke Airport Hampton for $103.50 per night

5.   Brazilian Shrimp, Scallops, and Clams at Montaro's

6.   Visiting Fans – Hope had the most;  Amherst, fun and flamboyant; Ursinius, gracious in defeat; and Washington U. had, by far, both the rowdiest and most creative student section. The atmosphere was loud and electric

7.   Ursinus Bears – a small scholl with a he basketball tradition

8.   Hope Flying Dutchman – for 32 minutes they played the ultimate champion to a standoff in perhaps the most physical collegiate game I've seen

9.   Amherst Lord Jeffs – few teams have ever had the opportunity to defend their title in the championship game. Nice run.

10.   Washington U. in St. Louis Bears – Lock-down defense; lethal in transition; smooth, efficient, unselfish in the half court; poise; and Troy Ruths

Wish you all were here.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 23, 2008, 05:33:41 PM
Anthony Williams from Plattsburgh State was named to the D3Hoops All American 2nd Team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on March 24, 2008, 11:30:00 AM
Very well deserved!  Great player, outstanding team, great coach.  A nice year for Plattsburgh!  Sweet 16 for hoops a National Championship for the Women's Hockey Team and 2nd place for the Men's Hockey Team... I'd say the Cards represented the SUNYAC well in the winter post season!  Until next year...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 24, 2008, 09:45:59 PM
Congrats to Anthony Williams and the Plattsburgh Cardinals
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 28, 2008, 06:05:36 AM
Anthony Williams from Plattsburgh State was named to the NABC First Team All American team. Williams, a senior guard was also named to the NABC Division III All District First Team from the East region and was also recognized as the Player of the Year from the East region.

Travis Gorham a senior forward and Williams' teammate at Plattsburgh State was also named to the NABC All District First Team. Plattsburgh State was one of only three schools in all of Division III basketball with 2 First Team All District selections.

Coach Tom Curle of Plattsburgh State was named Coach of the Year by the NABC for the East Region.

Also representing the SUNYAC conference was Sherod Harris, senior guard from Brockport State, who was named to the NABC All District First Team. Brandon Williams, senior forward from Brockport, was named to the second team and Scott Morton, junior guard from Geneseo State was named to the second team as well.
The SUNYAC conference was well represented grabbing 5 of the 11 spots, plus Coach & Player of the Year. Congratulations to everyone on the list.
The complete teams are as follows:

2008 NABC Division III All District Team East Region

First Team
Anthony Williams Plattsburgh St.  Player of the Year
Travis Gorham Plattsburgh St.
Sherod Harris Brockport St.
Sean Burton Ithaca College
Corey McAdam Nazareth College
Jonathan Onyiriuka University of Rochester

Coach of the Year  Tom Curle Plattsburgh St.

Second Team
Scott Morton Geneseo St.
Brandon Williams Brockport St.
John Grazioli Hobart College
Lawrence Avitabile Vassar College
Uche Ndubizu University of Rochester
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 30, 2008, 09:31:31 PM
Just read the teams and sounds like very well evaluated teams,as should be!! Congrats to all selected and next season I will be posting from sunny Florida all season! Enjoy the offseason everyone--Scooterman signing off
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 29, 2008, 09:39:26 AM
Anthony Williams from Plattsburgh State was 1 of only 2 players from Division 3 to make the All Star team at the Collegiate Basketball Invitational this past weekend. Williams averaged 18 points in the 4 games he played. He also set a CBI record with 34 points when his team won an earlier game against a team that had Andrew Olsen from Amherst and Ben Strong from Guilford. Olsen scored 6 pts. and Strong scored 21. Williams didn't start the 1st game of the tournament that he played in but came off the bench to score 7 pts with 4 assists & 2 steals. His team lost  102-90. The 2nd game from the loser's bracket had him starting and he scored 17 pts on 5 x 8 shooting,  2 x 2 3 pointers, 5 x7 FT's, with 4 rebounds 1 assists and 1 steal in 24 minutes. His team won 104-99. Troy Ruths, D-3 Player of the year had 13 pts in 29 minutes for the losing team.
Game 3 was against the Olsen-Strong team and Williams shot lights out going 12 x 14 with 4 x 5 from 3 point land. He was 6 x 6 from the foul line, had 6 rebounds 5 assists and 1 steal in 26 minutes. Olsen played 22 mins. and Strong came off the bench and led the losing team with 21 pts. in 25 minutes.
Besides Williams, the only other D-3 player to make the All Star team was James Cooper from Wooster. Cooper scored 57 pts in the 4 games he played for an average of 14.2. He averaged 25 minutes per game. Williams only averaged 22.5 minutes a game but wound up being the 2nd leading scorer in the tournament with 74 points. Only MVP 6' 10" Jeff Ferguson from Pikeville (NAIA 1) with 83 points outscored Williams and did so with considerably more playing time. Williams shot an amazing 68% from the field and 72% from beyond the arc. Strangely enough he didn't make the all CBI team. Steve Dagostino from Division 2 St. Rose was the only guard chosen.
Congratulations once again to Anthony Williams who hopefully will get noticed by the scouts that were in attendance and perhaps land some kind of Pro contract . Interesting to note that last year 18 of the 20 guys chosen for the CBI All Star game were signed to Pro contracts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Shooting Star on August 15, 2008, 08:49:37 PM
What are the prospects for Potsdam, Cortland, and Geneseo for this coming season?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FutureD3playa on September 17, 2008, 07:49:57 AM
Will Oneonta have a good year? and what are your predictions for the seeds in the conference tourny?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on September 30, 2008, 01:52:46 PM
Congrats to Coach Dunne on having the Interim removed from his appointment at SUNY Brockport. Watch out for the Eagles---A new Brandon Williams is in town--Hope he can live up to the name--Go Eagles--What did everyone else bring in for this hoop season? Let's start some banter--I like Bport, Plattsburgh and Geneseo for my top 3 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Shooting Star on October 13, 2008, 07:50:16 PM
I'm pretty new to NYS.  Who are the best coaches in SUNYAC and why?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Shooting Star on October 15, 2008, 11:33:20 PM
Not a lot of action here?  What are the different SUNYAC schools bringing to the table this year from a coaching and player standpoint. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on October 17, 2008, 12:12:03 AM
I'll try and give a run down of the coaches in the SUNYAC considering there hasn't been much turnover in recent years.

Greg Dunne - Was extremely successful player (Naz) and assistant at Brockport. Had a solid year last season with high expectations for a first year coach. Should be interesting this season without the horses from the last couple of years (Sherod Harris and Brandon Williams in particular). Mychal Wilkes and Cantrell Parrish will lead the Golden Eagles this season.

Kevin Broderick - Always seems to get a couple of kids people don't know about that turn out to be pretty good. Will be interesting to see how he does without Perioli (sp?). Has been to the 'ship on a couple of times but his teams never seem to rise to the occasion. Tom Downing and shoot it from everyone Kyle Rueter should be the leaders.

Tom Curle - Bounced around before finding a home at his alma mater. Has been extremely successful up in the North Country with an influx of transfers from JCs and higher levels. Loses a lot of talent from last years' squad. Life without Anthony Williams is going to difficult. Not expecting them to drop from the upper tier of the conference.

Kevin Moore - Has had a tough time getting players and getting wins. Was an excellent coach before Elmira College went to the basement of the Empire 8. Should continue to get better this year with his star Brad Cooper.

Tom Spanbauer - Had a ton of success with the help of Tom Williams and Company at the beginning of the millennium. Should be a national power with the majors, location, and "special talent" for their athletes.  He will have to find ways to get Mike Lewis the ball, he could be one of the best players in the SUNYAC.

Vince Medici - Had a successful career at HVCC before moving over the SUNYAC. Has done a great job of developing a pipeline to Albany and NYC. Plays in one of the best D3 facilities I have seen. They are still developing and will continue to get better.

Farji Ansari - Disappointing might be the right word for the lack of success Farji has had at Buff State. He can get just about anyone that can breathe into school and can't seem to make his teams mesh. Maybe his boys from Turner-Carroll could help him out. Buff State should be a powerhouse just like they were in the 90's with Dick Bihr at the helm.

Sherry Dobbs - Two NCAA appearances in his first two years was quite a start. Hasn't been much since. Has a talented yet underachieving group of seniors this season, should be a solid season for the Bears or it will be another cold winter in the North Country.

Steve Minton - Has done a fantastic job of bringing a "Princeton" style offense to the SUNYAC. Has considerable talent returning with Howe and Morton. They could make a run at the title this year.

Dagan Nelson - The coach that I have the least about of knowledge about. I've heard he has been working the recruiting trails hard. Hopefully for him, his recruiting will lead to more wins than Dougy P. had.

Brian Murphy - Haven't seen his teams play since Morrisville made the move to full fledged D3 member. His JC teams always had a bunch of talent. Has a great coaching pedigree with his father being the aforementioned Tom Murphy.

I believe that's it. Had Grimmer from SUNYIT in there but forgot they moved over to the NEAC. With practice starting, any reports from any of the campuses. Good luck this season.

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Post by: GPT on October 17, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
I dont get to see alot of SUNY games, but everything you said was pretty much on the money.I Dunne has potential to be very good.

Found a new website called www.empiresportd.synthasite.com , on its college page there is an article about who is the best D3 coach in the Rochester area. Quite interesting site
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Post by: FutureD3playa on October 20, 2008, 07:11:34 AM
Watch out for ONEONTA....D1 transfer from UNC-Greensboro(6'7)....and other solid athletic wings along with good shooters and solid PG.
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Post by: bball12 on October 21, 2008, 06:37:14 PM
New Paltz is going to be a sleeper this year.  I heard they have some pretty talented freshman and a couple talented transfers. 
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Post by: jdex on November 02, 2008, 10:08:51 PM

Buffalo St. rose in second half to defeat Waterloo of Ont. 68-65 in Saturday exhibition. Bengals trailed 38-33 at half. J. Gray 22 pts(9x19fg) in 38'; J.O. Lott 15 pts(6x13fg); A. Samedi 14 pt(6x11fg), 8 reb in 38'; D. Marshall off bench for 5 pt, 8 reb in 18'. BS in 11/14 turnup at D1 Binghamton

Twice today assembled capsules on each team .....lost both times. Will try again, just not today! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 03, 2008, 02:11:30 PM
 
In no particular order ......

Oswego's only two seniors good starting point for Lakers -- capts T. Downing, last season's top scorer (15.9) and a 3pt sharpie (76x189), and returning 5-10 regular K. Reuter (14.1, 98x111ft). OSt has six fr including lean 6-6 and 6-8 duo. Pair of JC 6-2 frontcourt transfers in L. Schrader and  S. Francois. Of course, ignition switch and All-SUNYAC  N. Perioli departed 21-8 unit, along with M. Jabbi.. Opens 11/15 vs. Canton

Potsdam certainly believes it's better than 11-15 finish of a few months back. Six sr headed by SUNYAC HMs 6-2 g D. Brown (15.2pt, 4.3reb, top asst)  and 6-3 g A. Dike (12.5, 7.3). Add 6-8 B. Siskavich (8.7),  g B. Graney (7.9), g S. Clement. More size in 6-11 soph G. Lothridge (ESyr-Minoa) and 6-10 T. Kelso (Ogdensburg), the latter one of five fr. Bears. Tip 11/15 vs. Hobart and drill tonight vs. Algonquin College

Plattsburgh boasting eight lettermen, a bit deceiving since 6-6 200 soph E. Daniyan (6.5pt) is only returning starter (1gm) among that group. Of course, the missing include All-Everything A. Williams, T. Gorham, K. Hunt & Co. responsible for banner 27-3 express. Joining Daniyan as key returning cog is 6-4 C. Ruiz (6.7pt). Also have six others with game experience, among them 6-9 260 R.J. Ponesse and 6-4 200 sr L. Darrell. Cards in 11/15 launch in own tourney, perhaps Paul Smith's 1st rounder? Mourning summer death of ex-coach Larry Cowan at 49

Brockport also has some big shoes to fill, though absence of All-Conference Sherod Harris (now ass't coach) easier to take with incoming seven sr and six jr vet-laden cast. Punch packing crew includes 5-11 All-Conf sr g B. Williams (14.5pt), 6-2 g J. Clarke, 5-11 HM All-Conf g M. Wilkes (11.7), 6-6 jr C. Parrish (8.8,5.2), jr g J. Johnson (5.5), 6-8 sr B. Brooks, 6-5 230 sr E. Kays. Single roster fr is 6-0 175 g G. Williams of Roch. (B. Will relation?). Eagles 21-8 last season. Open 11/22 vs. Wentworth in Hopkins tourney

Geneseo focus centers around sr All-SUNYACs 6-6 200 g S. Morton (15 pts shy of 1,000) and 6-8 230 J. Howe (14.3, 6.5). Morton was 1st team, Howe 2nd. Helping Knights fans ease losses of vitals T. Kitson and J. Kling from 19-8 season are returnees B. Simpson (6.5), 6-7 R. Hasenauer, 6-6 jr K. Stevens (5), 5-11 soph M. Baker.  Get going 11/15 vs. Elmira

Fredonia features 6-0 jr g B. Cooper, Devils No. 1 scorer (14.4) during 9-17 campaign. Freds have two sr, foremost 5-10 W. Davis (7). Other vets number 6-1 jr K. Saunders (6), 6-6 K. Mitchell, 6-4 soph J. Bryant (6, 4), 6-5 G. MacBride. Eight fr  looking for court time. Underway 11/15 vs. Allegheny in R-Newark tourney

Buffalo St. showcased lineup Saturday night in exhibition win over Waterloo, Ont. Usual characters dominated, primarily 6-3 sr g J. Gray, last season's pt leader (15.7), 6-7 jr A. Samedi (9, 6), and sr g J. Tyndal. Gray, Tyndal and 6-2 g A.J. White (6pt) form  Bengals sr contingent. Another vet is 6-7 soph A. Speed. Roster includes seven fr and soph. BS, 8-15 last season, opens 11/21 vs. Thomas More in tourney with R-Newark and J. Carroll

Cortland has wealth of talent from 21-8 season  including top six scorers headed by All-Conf 2nd team 6-6 jr M. Lewis (12.7, 7.1), 6-6 250 jr P. Oliver (10.7, 6.8), 6-4 205 sr C. Niehoff (11.1, 4.3), 6-2 jr g W. Coston (10.6), 6-0 soph g R. Evans (7.5) and 5-11 sr g J. Miolan. Good 3pt strikers in Niehoff (41x98), Evans, Miolan, Coston. RDragons received most SUNYAC points in preseason D3hoops poll that also saw Pburgh, Bport and Geneseo mentioned. CSt opens 11/15 vs. Ithaca (Cortaca Jug same day matinee)

Oneonta senior complement of 6-7 R. Morin (6.1, 2.5), 6-3 g R. Fitzgerald (4.8, 3.3) and 6-3 g M. Lane (4.8) brings leadership, and among eight lettermen Formidable among them  6-4 jr f  M. Grimes (9.9, 6.5). Another vet from 12-14 team is soph S. Gillette (4.3, 2.4) while inside game fortified with transfers B. Beckford, 6-5 f from Brooklyn, and 6-8 jr K. Skinner from Binghamton. OSt debuts 11/15 vs. Cobleskill – in first phase climb to D3 status and SUNYAC tie?

New Paltz has formidable upper class tandem in 6-2 sr g M. Hauser (10.1pt, 41x125 3s) and 6-6 jr f L. Bertram (12.4, 7.1). Also returning is 6-5 jr f A. Bevilacqua. Youth should be served, what with seven fr. Their ranks number 6-4 g C. Hauser and a 6-7 frontliner. Hawks, 6-19 a season ago, take 12 game skid into 11/15 start vs. Drew

Morrisville in fourth and final phase to D3 accreditation. Was 5-19 last season. Among key holdovers 6-4 sr f J. McCants (7, 6) and 6-3 jr f G. Vaughn. Others appear to be 6-6 soph A. Simon, 5-9 jr A. VanDyke, soph g J. Rivers, 6-4 jr McDonald, 6-4 jr f B. Eddy. Gone is stat leader D. Spencer (17, 7). Mustangs bring in five fr including trio from Syracuse city system and 6-5 c from Commack.



 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 03, 2008, 02:23:31 PM
Nice job, Jdex.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 03, 2008, 08:29:32 PM
Jdex--Thanks for the update--down in FL this season but will be rooting hard for my beloved Golden Eagles--Life after B-dubs and Lightnin Rod will be different--Alot of faces are needed to step up and be counted for them to match or improve on the past two seasons--Many veterans on this club, but needed to fill different roles--Good Luck Eagles!!!
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Post by: Thunder on November 04, 2008, 10:44:08 AM
Men Win Basketball Exhibition Game


(POTSDAM, NY) Senior Alvin Dike scored 26 points and added 9 rebounds as he led the SUNY Potsdam Bears to a 72-64 victory in Monday night's exhibition basketball contest with the Algonquin Thunder. The Bears will begin regulation play on Saturday, November 15th at Hobart College.

Damon Brown (Brooklyn/Port Richmond), also a senior, followed Dike (Bronx/Msgr. Scanlan) in scoring with 18 points as he pulled down 7 boards. Senior Brandon Siskavich (Peru/Peru) finished with 10 points and 4 boards while Rookie Tom Kelso (Ogdensburg/OFA) finished with 8 points and 4 rebounds.

Potsdam controlled the game most of the evening and led 34-22 at half-time. Leading scorers for the Thunder included Charly Spurr with 20 points and 5 rebounds, as well as, Anthony Hinds who added 20 points and 1 board.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 04, 2008, 07:33:42 PM
+k Thunder - Like your team and they way they compete.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 06, 2008, 11:32:59 AM

Geez, Morrisville on verge of becoming D3 full member next year and about to jump to NEAC in '09-10?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 06, 2008, 04:42:34 PM
I heard that too.  and they had to suffer those beatings the last two years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on November 09, 2008, 07:27:03 AM
I missed the game, but heard that Utica did quite well against Potsdam. The account I heard was that it was a close score in the first half, and Utica blew them out in the second half. The person I talked to didn't stay for the 3rd short stanza that they play in these games.
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Post by: FutureD3playa on November 09, 2008, 05:41:36 PM
i got a question.....where can i watch all the games this year....do most of the teams show it on there website..live stream?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on November 09, 2008, 09:42:05 PM
New Paltz played against two division II teams.  they beat concordia(NY) by 5 and lost to Mercy College by 10.  They are young but they are a talented bunch of players.  I also heard that morrisville is leaving the league after this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 09, 2008, 09:43:51 PM
No confirmation of Morrisville on either the Morrisville or NEAC sites...  ???

Let's keep an eye out for that development!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2008, 12:12:39 AM
jdex,

As usual, you're right on the money with your information. Plus k. Cortland looks like the team to beat this year. 
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Post by: jdex on November 12, 2008, 05:19:36 PM

Fredonia rolls past Sheridan of Canada 79-61 in exhibition. Devils vets show way: B. Cooper 19 pts(6x14fg, 4x7 3s) in 30'; W. Davis 17 pts(7x11fg) in 26'; K. Saunders 11 pts(4x11fg) in 32'. J. Bryant (6reb) and B. Morse other starters. Spare K. Mitchell 23', S. Valenta, G. MacBride get double digit minutes along with 6-3 fr small f B. Daniels from Niagara Falls. Freds 32x64fg, 7x14ft and up 38-28 at half. Sheridan already 9-6
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Post by: thebear on November 14, 2008, 02:15:02 PM
Potsdam season Preview

Bears at 6-8, 6-10, 6-11 have some serious inside height.

http://www.potsdam.edu/ens.php?ensID=A710C4B529C2D7521D6F996D26CEE71E&sectionID=F82FCBEB74C203F84C54FDC87DDA062A

Opener tomw at Hobart.  Home opener next Friday in NC Coaches vs. Cancer tourney vs. Paul Smiths.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2008, 03:03:06 PM

Buffalo St. bows 102-64 at D1 Binghamton in Friday exhibition. Bingos by 48-29 midway and shoot 63%fg to BS 40%. Bengals A. Speed 15 pt(7x12fg), A. Samedi 12 pts(6x9fg), J. Gray 12 pts(5x14fg)

Today/tonight season openers:

Geneseo home to Elmira, Oneonta hosting Cobleskill, New Paltz entertaining Drew, Cortland home to IC, Podsdam at Hobart, Plattsburgh testing Johnson St. in Pburg Cards Classic opener, Fredonia against Allegheny at Rutg-Newk fest opener, Morrisville home vs. Clarkson, Oswego home vs. Canton
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Post by: thebear on November 15, 2008, 05:08:53 PM
Potsdam comes from behind to win at Hobart 68-66.   Statesman had opportunity to tie with :01 with 2 ft's, but missed both.  Brendan Graney led the Bears with 20 (9x12 Fg's) off the bench, Damon Brown added 16.  R. Estep led Hobart with 20.  Bears led by as much as 11 in the opening half, but Statesman stormed back to a 58-57 lead with 4:38.  Graney scored 6 of last 10 to lead the Bears to a road victory.

Potsdam next at Home Friday 11/21 vs. Paul Smiths in 8 PM nightcap to North Country Coaches vs. Cancer.
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Post by: jdex on November 15, 2008, 05:13:12 PM
Geneseo rips Elmira 76-53. J. Howe 27 pts(12x15fg), 15 reb in 26'; S. Morton 22 pts(9x17fg), 9 reb, 4 assts, 5 stls in 30'. Morton nets career 1,000 pt. M. Baker 5 assts. Knights 30 up in 2nd half. Land 28x62fg, 3x18 3s, 17x32ft. Lead 33-26 at half

Oneonta cuffs Cobleskill 79-68. Dragons by as many as 21. B. Hooks 15 pts(3x9 3s, 6x6ft) in 25'; R. Morin 14 pts(7x9fg) in 16' off bench; M. Lane 12 pts(5x7fg) in 29'; M. Grimes 11 pts(5x6fg) in 20'; B. Beckford 11 reb, 4 asts in 30'. OSt 28x58fg, 5x16 3s. Holds 38-29 gap at intermission
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Post by: jdex on November 15, 2008, 08:52:40 PM

Cortland flattened by guest Ithaca 80-56. Messy RDragons debut. Fortunate to be down only 11 at half, then trail later by 29. R. Evans 18 pts, 5 rebs; P. Oliver 16 pts, 6 rebs; M. Lewis 4 pts, 4 rebs. Go 25x65fg, 4x15 3s and mere 2x7 ft to IC's 22x24ft. Bombers look everything like E8 force. C. Cruz 22 pts(4x5 3s), 7 rebs; S. Burton 13 pts, 6 rebs; B. Rogers 12 pts. Solid even minus big J. Bostic, S. Leahy showings. Many hands contribute. IC 50-35 reb margin; shoots 24x66fg, 7x11 3s in 2nd half

New Paltz guns down Drew 74-61. Out to 29-9 advantage. J. Anderson 20 pts, 5 rebs; C. Cornine 16 pts, 6 rebs, 3 blks in 23'; fr S. Taylor 10 pts, 5 rebs in 17' M. Hauser 7 pts(3x8fg) in 30'; L. Bertram 7 rebs, 3 stls in 31'. Hawks 35-23 at half. Shoots 30x58fg, 13x29ft
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Post by: jdex on November 15, 2008, 09:03:59 PM

Fredonia over Allegheny 64-55 in Rutgers-Newark tourney start
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: UCgrad45 on November 15, 2008, 10:01:25 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 14, 2008, 02:15:02 PM
Potsdam season Preview

Bears at 6-8, 6-10, 6-11 have some serious inside height.

http://www.potsdam.edu/ens.php?ensID=A710C4B529C2D7521D6F996D26CEE71E&sectionID=F82FCBEB74C203F84C54FDC87DDA062A

Opener tomw at Hobart.  Home opener next Friday in NC Coaches vs. Cancer tourney vs. Paul Smiths.


I just noticed that article says hobart is in the empire 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2008, 10:58:12 PM

Plattsburgh holds off Johnson St. 76-70. Cards see 40-30 halftime lead vanish with JS up 59-56 with 10:53 to play. Play stays tight with C. Ruiz providing 65-63 Pburgh edge at 6:16. Ruiz (24 pts on 10x15fg and 2x5 3s), E. Daniyan (16 pt on 6x11fg), T. Farris supply big pts. Ruiz adds 7 reb, 3 stls, 3 assts in 34'; Daniyan 15 reb in 31'. Cards 30x59fg, 13 stls, 41 reb

Morrisville big comeback falls short in 54-52 slip to Clarkson. Latter in front 48-33 with 8' to go. A. VanDyke trey misses at end for Mville whose S. Grant with 16 pts(6x9fg); E. Wilson 10 pts in reserve role
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Post by: jdex on November 16, 2008, 08:45:30 AM

Oswego takes hops away from Canton Kangaroos in big way -- 116-68. Lakers out front 59-31 at break as fr C. Burridge nets 18 of his final 24 pts. S. Francois finishes with 19, K. Reuter 14, fr C. Monaghan 14

To clarify: Ithaca's Bostic and Leahy did play at Cortland, just weren't much statistical factors. Burton a bit more visible but numbers no big deal. Considering IC romped ..... scary!

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Post by: magicman on November 17, 2008, 12:07:39 AM
Plattsburgh State loses to Westfield State 64-60 in Cardinal Classic final. Westfield grabs lead at 60-58 with 34 secs. left. Cardinals come down and miss attempt to tie. Westfield fouled and player makes 1 of 2 to go up by 3 with 22 secs left. Plattsburgh turns the ball over, fouls and The Owls go up by 5 with 10 secs left. The Cardinals were led by Brad Mader who came off the bench to score 16 pts, along with 7 rebounds and 2 blocks. Errol Daniyan and RJ Ponesse both chipped in with 8 points. Westfield St. was paced by Tournament MVP Asa Abbott with 15 pts.  Johnny Dunbar added 13 and Dave Jaehnig also hit double figures with 12. Wouldn't surprise me to see Westfield State win the Mass. State College Athletic Conference this year with 13 returning players from last year's 19-9 team. They just missed the NCAA's last year when they lost to Salem State in the MASCAC championship game, after beating them twice during the regular season.
The loss ended the Cardinals regular season home winning streak that streched back nearly 2 years. They had won their last 16 regular season home games.   
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Post by: jdex on November 17, 2008, 12:25:46 PM

Fredonia loses Rutgers-Newark tourney title game to host 77-59. Devils in 37-28 hole at half. All-tourney B. Cooper 10 pts(4x11fg) in 28'; K. Saunders 10 pts(3x10fg), 4 assts in 37'; sr c B. Morse 8 pts, 7 rebs; W. Davis 4pf, 8 pts in 20'. R-N 30x54fg, Devils 21x60fg.  In Freds opening win vs. Allegheny, Davis 2ft and 3pter break 55-55 knot with 3:41 left. Cooper 4ft clinch. Tied 33 all at half. Cooper 17 pts(5x17fg), 3 stls in 29'; Davis 12 pts(4x8fg), 3 stls in 28'; K. Mitchell 8 rebs; Saunders 5 assts. Allegheny 88, Medgar Evers 61 consi; R-N 110, ME 61 1st round
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Post by: scooterman on November 17, 2008, 01:25:58 PM
The Bport Eagles open up this weekend at the John Hopkins Tourney with the Whitworth Pirates. They look to be a very formidable opponent with 3 starters returning from a stellar season and a great recruiting class. They are a preseason "top 2" pick in their league. I certainly hope the remaining Harris will be the leader he is capable of being--Its his turn to make the Eagles Go--Good luck!!!
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Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 17, 2008, 01:44:49 PM
Quote from: scooterman on November 17, 2008, 01:25:58 PM
The Bport Eagles open up this weekend at the John Hopkins Tourney with the Whitworth Pirates. They look to be a very formidable opponent with 3 starters returning from a stellar season and a great recruiting class. They are a preseason "top 2" pick in their league. I certainly hope the remaining Harris will be the leader he is capable of being--Its his turn to make the Eagles Go--Good luck!!!

Having watched the Brockport/UR scrimmage Friday night, I can tell you that if Bport brings the same kind f defensive intensity from their guards, they'll be fine.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FutureD3playa on November 18, 2008, 07:27:45 AM
watch out for oneonta to make a run in the conference this year...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2008, 05:06:38 PM

On tap tonight:
Plattsburgh at Norwich, Cortland at Utica, Fredonia home to PS-Behrend, Oneonta home to Hartwick
Wednesday has Oswego home to Caz
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on November 18, 2008, 07:16:35 PM
Its about time oneonta makes a run.  They should be better they have nice facilities.  It looks like they have some good tranfers so hopefully this coaching staff can win some games. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2008, 09:03:55 PM

Cortland holds off Utica College 68-62 in Utica. Turnovers (19) and late missed FTs (15x29 for game) nearly cost RDragons who hold 41-25 halftime lead. Dwindles to 63-60 on D. Henning '3' at 0:31. W. Coston 2ft at 0:26 widen gap. R. Evans 18 pts(6x11fg, 5x8 3s), 5 rebs; P. Oliver 14 pts(6x9fg), 8 rebs; C. Niehoff 14 pts(4x8fg, 3x5 3s); M. Lewis 9 pts(2x3fg), 6 rebs. Corts 22x44fg including 16x28 (8x12 3s) first half. Have 37-29 reb margin. UC's Henning 22 pts(9x16fg), 6 assts. Shoot 24x57fg, just 6x8ft
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Post by: jdex on November 18, 2008, 09:17:08 PM

Plattsburgh takes host Norwich 76-67. In charge 41-32 at half. Cards get big game from B. Mader with 17 pts(5x9fg, 7x10ft) and 16 reb in 34'. C. Ruiz with 20 pts(8x16fg, 2x6 3s), 3 stls, 3 assts in 30'. J. Bruno 11 pts on 3x4 3s. E. Daniyan 4 pts in 18'. Pburgh 26x61 fg (14x30 1st half). For 0-3 Norwich, J. Jeffcoat 24 pts (4x6 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2008, 10:10:50 PM

Oneonta tamed by Hartwick 70-59. OSt lags 36-27 at half. Dragons 23x56fg (1x13 3s). B. Beckford 15 pts(6x11fg), 7 blks, 5pf in 29'; M. Grimes 13 pts(5x13fg). Wick's M. Blazek 22 pts(8x13fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2008, 11:12:07 PM

Fredonia with huge 66-63 comeback victory over PS-Behrend. Trailing 59-43 at 7:18, Devils B. Cooper and W. Davis lead charge till K. Mitchell hoop at 0:40 provides 65-63 lead. Cooper 22 pts(8x15fg, 4x7 3s), 4 stls in 35'; Davis 11 pts(4x10fg), 4pf in 23'; Mitchell 11 pts(5x9fg), 6 reb for 3-1 Freds. Make 25x57fg. PS-B, 2-1, holds 37-27 half edge
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TheNextLevel on November 19, 2008, 12:54:57 PM
I, along with over 3,000 other fans watched Hartwick  beat Oneonta State 70-59 in the O-State gym.   Always a great cross-town rivilalry, regardless of the teams records.     Hartwick's freshman point guard, Mark Blazek is a player.   He led all scorers with 23 pts on 8/13 shooting, (3/5 from 3pt range), while playing as a true point guard.   Gives Wick a legit complement  to Cocco.   He could help bring Hartwick up a couple of spots in the E8.  Oneonta has potential, but they have some work to do if they want to compete with the top schools in the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on November 20, 2008, 02:44:28 AM
Morrisville will be happy to get out of the SUNYAC (if the rumor is true) because the chances of them winning many games is slim.  Clarkson led 48-33 with about 8 minutes to go and I believe did not score a field goal for the rest of the game and still won 54-52.  Clarkson does play gritty defense which allowed then to survive the desperation 3 at the buzzer by morrisville. Will look forward to seeing Potsdam-Paul Smiths & Clarkson-Keystone this weekend. Potsdam with a good win over Hobart should be fun to watch as the team is Senior laden. I am hoping for a Potsdam - Clarkson final but you have to play the games (though the whole Potsdam team would probably have to have food poisoning to lose to Paul Smiths).  Keystone is an unknown to me. Early observation - to me Ithaca must be for real this year to handle what was touted as a good veteran Cortland team, And who knew that Hartwick might have finally turned into something other than the Cocco show with their victory over Oneonta?  The Blaze N Cocco show perhaps??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 20, 2008, 06:08:57 AM
Age - couldn't agree more.  It appears the Ithaca Bombers are the "Beast of the East" until someone else steps up.

Keystone is coached by former Clarkson/Potsdam asst Jason Leone.  He has a young squad loaded with first & second year players.  He added diminutive sharp shooter Ryan Luce from JUCO powerhouse Hudson Valley.  Won his opener vs. Delaware Valley.  Different cast of Keystone characters played Bears to a one point game last season in PA.

Can't wait for Friday night, and Zola's impending visit to the 'dam on Saturday. 



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2008, 04:42:38 PM

Oswego drubs Cazenovia 104-79 by extending 46-41 halftime lead. K. Reuter's 22 pts(9x17fg, 3x6 3s) in 35' put him in 1,000 career pt class. T. Downing 22 pts(8x14fg, 6x6ft), 9 assts, 3 blks in 25'; C. Burridge 18 pts(7z12fg), 10 rebs; S. Francois 16 pts(6x7ft). Lakers 40x69fg, only 9 trnv to Caz 25. Caz 34-27 reb margin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: d3hero on November 20, 2008, 09:04:15 PM
Be prepared for SUNY Purchase (a non-SUNAC SUNY) to take down New Paltz in the first round of their tournament tomorrow.

I know what you're thinking...Purchase is an arts school that is in it's first year as an official member of the NCAA.  They have historically been awful.

Well, you're right.  But this year, there's a big difference than all the rest - Purchase has a D1 point guard with two D2 wingmen who can fly.  Pay attention to this game tomorrow night - it should wake people up to the new kid on the block.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scout on November 21, 2008, 07:28:18 AM
Oneonta travels to Massachusetts to take on teams at the Gordon College Tip-Off tourney. Good chance for them to play some solid teams.

First game is Friday evening and is followed by the Championship and consolation matches on Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2008, 12:51:54 PM

On Friday's card .....

Brockport launches in Johns Hopkins tourney vs. similarly debuting Whitworth of Spokane (WA). Nightcap has 0-0 JH vs. 1-0 Moravian. Bport and Whits both with plenty back from banner seasons -- Whitworth to 3d round of NCAAs

Potsdam site of N. Country tourney; 1-0 Bears vs. NAIA Paul Smith's after 1-0 Clarkson vs. Keystone, PA (1-0 after beating Del. Valley)

Geneseo at Gettysburg tourney and 1-0 facing 0-2 Rowan. Gburg in season start and with all starters returning from Sweet 16 outfit, vs. 2-0 Elizabethtown

Oswego takes 2-0 mark into Old Westbury tourney and draws NAIA 0-0 Husson (ME). Afterpiece sends 0-1 OW vs. Brooklyn

Oneonta sends its 1-1 RDragons to Gordon (MA) tourney against 2-0 host. Early game pits 1-0 Wm Paterson vs. 0-0 Wesleyan (CT). Gordon last 1/4 def. Plattsburgh by 18, though now reloading

Buffalo State tourney begins Bengals season. Face 0-0 Thomas More (KY). Also, 0-0 John Carroll (OH) meets 2-0 Rutgers-Newark, whose own tourney last week saw R-N over Fredonia for title

New Paltz tourney host and up against 1-0 Purchase tonight.  Hartwick at 1-0 challenges 0-1 York (NY) in opener at 1 this afternoon

Morrisville at Susquenna (PA) tourney where 0-1 Mustangs meet 2-0 King's (PA). Susquehanna at 2-0 vs. Penn College



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2008, 08:45:19 PM

Brockport takes 83-68 spill against Whitworth in season opener along with Johns Hopkins tourney starter. West coast guest up 39-35 at half as Bport gets 21 pts from bench. Finishes 20x55fg, 23x34ft to victors 31x53fg, 12x21ft. Newcomer J. Almeida leads Eagles with 14 pts(5x12fg, 2x4 3s), 4 rebs in 15'. M. Wilkes 7 pts(2x10fg, 1x7 3s), 3 assts, 3 stls in 30'; C. Parrish 7 pts, 3 rebs in 15'; B. Williams 8 pts, 3pf, 5x6ft in 9'; E. Keys 6 rebs in 22'; J. Johnson 19'. Whit 6-5 so g D. Riley 34 pts, 7 rebs in 38'

Morrisville tumbles 64-47 to King's in opener of Susquehanna tourney. Stangs down 38-27 thru 20'. Go 20x52fg, 2x11 3s. D. Coleman 14 pts(5x10fg); S. Grant 8 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2008, 09:52:07 PM

Oneonta beaten 68-63 by Gordon in latter's tourney semi. Gordon clinch at ft line at 0:03. OSt in Saturday 6 p.m. consi vs. Wesleyan (Ct),  dispatched 75-65 by Wm Paterson
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2008, 10:04:31 PM

Geneseo reaches Gettysburg tourney title step with 62-55 beating of Rowan. Gettysburg over Elizabethtown 71-56
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2008, 10:13:56 PM

Buffalo St. drops 75-71 issue to Thomas More (KY) in BS tourney. Bengals at 1 on Saturday face John Carroll, beaten 76-71 by Rutgers-Newark on reb bucket at 0:03 after holding 40-30 halftime lead
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2008, 10:40:30 PM

New Paltz late push falls short in 81-78 setback to Purchase in NP tourney. Purchase by 48-39 at half. Hawks S. Taylor 22 pts(8x18fg), 8 rebs in 29'; J. Anderson 21 pts (10x14fg), 9 rebs in 31'; H. Wichard 16 pts(6x8fg, 4x6 3s) in 19'; O. Agyemang 10 assts, 5 pts in 34'; L. Bertram 6 pts, 9 rebs in 30'. NP 32x66fg, 42-33 reb edge, 21 trnvrs to Purchase 11. Purchase M. Billups 28 pts(12x22fg), 6 reb. NP vs. York (NY) in Saturday consi. Hartwick 68, York 62

Clarkson in 77-74 win over Keystone (PA) in tourney opener at Potsdam. B. Salanger 21 pts(7x8fg, 5x6 3s). Clarkson-Potsdam final, no doubt. Pdam vs. P Smith's in tonight's other semi
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 21, 2008, 11:01:38 PM
Bears defeated undermanned Paul Smiths squad 99-50.  Potsdam, web site is in transition until after the Holidays so stats and box aren't available at the moment.  Bears led at the half 56-32, despite 20 1st half points from Bobcat's Joe Collura.

Paul Smiths only was able to suit up six players.  Dobbs played everyone and emptied the bench with 8 minutes left.


6-10 Potsdam first year Tom Kelso was a force on the boards, and 6-11 redshirt Greg Lothridge had 10 points on 2 huge dunks, and a shades of Jack Sikma (One of the all-time D-III greats) turn around J.  First Year combo guard Olando Minott showed flashes of brilliance, particularly in transition and a burst to the rim.

Bears still a work in progress, but have more assets than the past few years.

Clarkson as always played physical d, against a gritty Keystone squad that never gave up. 

Clarkson - Potsdam final tomorrow should be fun to watch.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2008, 11:23:06 PM

Thanks, Bear ....

Geneseo's S. Morton 29 pts(11x21fg, 5x10 3s), 10 rebs, 4 assts and then turned off gym lights! K. Stevens 10 pts, 9 rebs, 4 assts; J. Howe 9 pts(4x7fg), 6 rebs. Knights 23x54fg, 8x25 3s. Up on Rowan 31-30 at half

Buffalo State 38-31 halftime edge wiped out. T. More came from 14 back and broke game's seventh tie at 65 at 2:30. Bengal J. Gray 18 pts(5x12fg, 8x8ft); J. Tyndal 14 pts(6x10fg); J.O. Lott 13 pts, 8 assts, 4 stls, 9 trnvrs; AJ White 12 pts; A. Speed 8 rebs; A. Samedi 2 pts, 5pf in 17'. BS 28x59fg, 20 trnvrs. TM puts four in double pt figures, best at 16. Buff-JC consi on Saturday at 3, final at 1

Oneonta trails 29-26 midway and takes early second half lead. Falls behind by double figures before surge makes it close at end. R. Morin 18 pts(8x13fg), 4 reb, 3 blks in 28'; B. Beckford 12 pts(5x7fg), 5pf in 16'; M. Grimes 8 pts in 40'; M. Lane 7 rebs in 33'

Oswego slated to face Husson tonight in Old Westbury tourney. Brooklyn College advances to final with 74-69 kayoing of host
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2008, 10:55:39 AM

Oswego stays clean by virtue of 84-75 putdown of Husson. No problems reaching 3-0 in this Old Westbury tourney first rounder. In 47-31 control at half (17x33fg). T. Downing finishes 20 pts(8x21fg), 4 assts, 7 trnvrs in 32'; S. Francois 19 pts(7x10fg), 14 reb in 38'; C. Burridge 8 pts, 16 reb in 30'; K. Reuter 14 pts; J. Lightbourne 12 pts(10z12ft). Lakers with 48 reb. Face Brooklyn College in final

Brockport this evening tangles with Moravian in J Hopkins consi. Moravian whipped 86-61 by JH Jays

Morrisville's consi foe at Susquehanna tourney is Penn College. Penn tripped 70-61 by Sus

Geneseo goes for throne at Gettysburg vs. hosts. Homestanding Potsdam meets Clarkson in N Country final. New Paltz in own tourney tests York (NY) in consi. Oneonta bids for third place vs. Wesleyan (CT) at Gordon (MA) tourney. Buffalo State at home pursues consi prize vs. John Carroll this afternoon AFTER T More vs. R-Newark title match

In non-tourney play, Cortland plays matinee at CCNY, and Fredonia tonight is home to Cobleskill
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2008, 06:21:52 PM

Cortland 73, CCNY 57

Buffalo St. loses 89-56 to John Carroll in BS tourney consi. BS trails 45-27 at half and by 38 in second half. Sinks 23x60fg. N. Simmons 14 pts(6x11fg) in 27'; all-tourney aj White 8 pts, 7 rebs, 5 blks in 27; J. Gray 6 pts, 8 trnvrs in 17'. Thomas More crowned with 75-55 beating of Rutgers-Newark
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2008, 08:56:26 PM

Brockport 93, Moravian 63 in J Hopkins consi

Potsdam 76, Clarkson 62 in N. Country tourney at Pdam. Bears shake free of 36 all intermission tie on 12x21 second half fg

Cortland annexes win rather easily, forging 41-25 halftime lead. Eleven Dragons score. M. Lewis 15 pts(6x11fg), 10 rebs, 3 stls in 28'; C. Niehoff 12 pts(5x12fg), 5 rebs, 3 assts in 31'; R. Evans 11 pts(4x7fg, 2x5 3s) in 27'; W. Coston 9 pts, 6 rebs, 4 assts in 28'; C. Milke 9 pts(4x6fg) in 11'. CSt 29x61fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2008, 11:34:11 PM

Oswego captures Old Westbury tourney by outgunning Brooklyn College 89-62 as K. Reuter earned mvp with 30 pts(10-18fg, 6x9 3s) in 29'. Reuter had 26 second half points including 6x6 3s to help Lakers boost 39-24 first stanza lead. C. Burridge 12 pts, 8 rebs, 4 assts; all tourney S. Francois 14 rebs; T. Downing 5 pts(1x3fg) in 25'. Old Westbury over Husson 82-69 for third place

Geneseo bows 58-56 to Gettysburg in Gburg tourney championship. Comes from 28-23 halftime deficit to tie at 53 and then 56 on M. Hoy 2ft. All tourney S. Morton 20 pts(6x10fg, 7x8ft), 5 rebs, 6 assts; J. Howe 13 pts(6x10fg), 7 rebs, 4 assts; B. Simpson 12 pts(6x10fg). Bullets win on K. Kennedy 18 foot jumper at 0:12. Victors 20x38fg and 7x14 3s to Knights 2x14

Fredonia buries Cobleskill 71-26. Races to 37-3 halftime lead ........that's right, 37-3! Freds score game's first 17 points and take advantage of 20 first half Cskill trnvrs. K. Saunders 15 pts, S. Valenta 12 pts, B. Morse 10 pts, J. Bryant 9 rebs

Oneonta finishes third in Gordon (MA) tourney with 62-47 victory vs. Wesleyan (CT). M. Lane 16 pts(5x12fg), 5 reb, 3 stls in 35'; T. Talbot 10 pts(5x5fg) in 15' off bench; B. Beckford 10 rebs, 8 pt in 33'. OSt 22x50fg. Gordon upsets Wm Paterson in final 68-67 by striking for game's final 10 points -- game winning layup at 3.7 seconds

New Paltz nipped 62-61 by York (NY) in NP tourney consi double ot skirmish. York by 25-21 at half; tied at 49 through reg and at 57 thru first ot. No scoring in final 3:45 of reg; NP takes lead at 0:18 of first ot but squared at 0:04. York ft (second of two) wins at 0:05. Fr. S. Jenkins 12 pts, 4 rebs, 3 assts for Hawks; C. Cornine 11 pts, 15 rebs; J. Anderson 11 pts, 5 rebs. NP 21x77fg and outrebounded by 57-47

Brockport's C. Parrish all tourney at Hopkins tourney Nets 19 pts with 8 rebs in consi win. J. Clarke 11 pts, J. Johnson 11 pts, M. Wilkes 10 pts, 4 assts, 3 stls; E. Keys 10 pts, 7 rebs. Whitworth (WA) downs J Hopkins 70-60 for title, overcoming 31-30 JH lead at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 23, 2008, 09:54:39 AM
Potsdam put on a second half surge to pull away from cross town rival and defending Liberty League champion Clarkson by a final tally of 74-62 at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.

Clarkson came back from 9 down to take a late first half lead before Potsdam tied it at 36 at intermission.

In the second half it was all Potsdam, and the Bears built a working lead by the 10 minute mark, and then threw in a 21-9 surge over the next seven minutes to build a lead that reached 18.

Damon Brown led Potsdam with 17 points, while fellow seniors Alvin Dike and Brandon Siskavich added 15 and 13 respectively.  Siskavich had the edge in play over Clarkson's Elson Pickering, who was held to nine points, and committed four turnovers.

Dike was selected tournament MVP, and Siskavich to the all-tournament team.  They were joined by Brian Salanger & Keth Murray of Clarkson, New Hartford native Michael Evans of Keystone, and point guard Joseph Collura of Paul Smiths.

Potsdam shot 58% for the game, and relied on drives and mid range jump shots as they made 2 of only 3 treys in the game.  Clarkson shot 43%, but a weak 2-11 from beyond the new arc.  Potsdam outrebounded Clarkson 32-23 led by Siskavich with 8, and promising first year Tom Kelso with 5 in 15 minutes.

Potsdam is on Thanksgiving break before resuming action on December 2 in a rematch with Clarkson at Alumni Gym.
The Bears then face a huge early SUNYAC matchup against contenders Geneseo & Brockport on December 5 & 6 at Jerry Welsh Gym.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 25, 2008, 12:14:42 PM

Tuesday nc outings ....

Brockport at 1-1 home vs. 1-1 SJF
Fredonia takes 2-0 mark to 1-3 D'Youville
Cortland at 2-1 travels to 0-2 Elmira
Plattsburgh holds 1-1 log vs. incoming 2-1 Clarkson
New Paltz at 1-2 greets 1-1 Utica IT
Geneseo boasting 2-1 record in trip to 1-2 Hobart
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 25, 2008, 08:58:54 PM

Cortland sees Elmira come from 15 back in final 15' for 69-63 Soaring Eagles win in Elmira

Brockport falters at home in 86-76 loss to St. John Fisher
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 25, 2008, 09:15:38 PM

Cortland upset after holding 43-30 halftime lead and up 15 with 14:55 left. Elmira pulls even at 59 at 4:46, takes lead on J. Adamson layup at 3:49 and builds margin to six! RDragons 26x64fg, 3x23 3s, 8x16ft. Eagles 22x63fg but 20x29ft. Corts M. Lewis 19 pts(8x14fg), 6 reb, 5pf in 33'; P. Oliver 15 pts(6x7fg, 14 rebs, 4pf in 28'; J. Miolan 13 pts(5x12fg); R. Evans 6 pts(3x10fg, 0x6 3s); sr C. Niehoff 5 pts, 5pf in 34'. Eagles Adamson 18 pts(6x18fg), 14 rebs; B. DiPiazzo 18 pts(6x13fg). Corts 47-42 reb -- plenty of misses all around.

Brockport in 44-32 hole at half and tightens contest in second half. Port with 24 trnvrs accounting for 29 SJF points. Bport converts 15 Fisher turnovers into 20 marks. SJF 35x65fg. ...... Bport 39-27 board edge. J. Almeida 20 pts (6x10fg, 2x6 3s, 6x6ft) in 18' pace hosts, whose M. Wilkes 17 pts(8x17fg) in 34'; S. Harris 12 pts in 28'; B. Williams 0 pts in 7'; C. Parrish 5 pts(2x3fg), 6 rebs, 4pf in 21'. Port 29x54fg. SJF with five scoring in double figures led by O. Franklin 17 (6x11fg) in 30'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 25, 2008, 10:30:29 PM

Plattsburgh nipped 59-58 by Clarkson whose E. Pickering winds up scoring at 1:36 on B. Linton assist. Pburgh takes 58-55 lead on E. Daniyan ft pair at 2:29. Linton narrows on Linton hoop at 2:21. Clarkson by 37-35 at half. Cards C. Ruiz 25 pts(10x13fg); Daniyan 19 pts(8x12fg); B. Mader 10 rebs, 4 assts. Pburgh 21x44fg, 1x3 3s, 15x24ft. Clarkson's Linton 18 pts(8x15fg); F. Llanos 14 pts(5x9fg). Green 23x48fg, 7x17 3s, 6x12ft

Geneseo over Hobart 61-53. Knights hold 32-25 lead at half. J. Howe 20 pts(9x15fg), 5 rebs; S. Morton 12 pts, 7 rebs; B. Simpson 11 pts(5x7fg); K. Stevens 10 rebs; M. Baker 6 assts

New Paltz beaten 97-85 by Utica IT. S. Taylor 17 pts(7x14) in loss; J. Anderson 15 pts; L. Bertram 14 pts; S. Jenkins 11 pts. IT by 48-42 at half. Uticans 36x64fg and led by D. Brown 27 pts, A. Edwards 25, D. Golembiowski 21. IT by as many as 19 in second half

Fredonia stops D'Youville 64-44, striking for game's opening 15 points en route to 32-19 halftime advantage. K. Saunders 14 pts, 5 rebs; W. Davis 9 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2008, 01:15:55 PM

Unbeaten Fredonia tonight makes run at third straight with home date vs. 2-3 Pitt-Bradford

Conference gets underway Tuesday and several good early matchups on the agenda including Oswego at Geneseo out of the gate. DaBear on Empire 8 top of page 391 lists others. Agree Geneseo leading horse on early nc returns

Being rabid Cortland fan we concur (with Bear's E8 post) RDragons solidifying of pg appears to be a must. Loss of handlers Fish and Schaller proving bigger then expected, we fear. Span well aware of hole going into the season but figured vets like Coston, Niehoff, Miolan could handle by committee. Now Cortlands appear to be searching .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2008, 10:54:20 PM

Fredonia improves to 5-1 by downing Pitt-Bradford 84-79 at home. Devils decide it with 35x54ft shooting to PB 12x25. Freds by 35-33 at half and lead by 12 in second period. Margin two at 0:07. Pull 24x60fg trigger. K. Mitchell 17 pts(11x16ft); S. Valenta 16 pts, 11 rebs; K. Saunders 13 pts(11x12ft), 3 stls; B. Cooper 12 pts, 3 stls; B. Morse 11 pts; J. Bryant 11 rebs. PB 2-4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 01, 2008, 11:03:53 PM
Is Fredonia good now?  When did that happen?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2008, 05:10:59 PM

Tuesday docket has three conference openers:

Oswego at Geneseo
Cortland at Oneonta
New Paltz at Morrisville

A pair of north country NC:

Potsdam at Clarkson
Plattsburgh at St. Lawrence
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2008, 10:36:45 PM

Geneseo 65, Oswego 64
Oneonta 66, Cortland 59
Clarkson 64, Potsdam 56
St. Lawrence 82, Plattsburgh 71

Cortland down 37-24 at half at OSt. R. Morin 13 pts paces balanced host showing. OSt 24x55fg. Corts 26x59fg led by C. Niehoff 19 pts(8x15fg). M. Lewis 13  pts

Potsdam drops first to vengeful Golden Eagles. Potsdam down big early, rallies to six down. D. Brown 20 pts, 7 rebs; fr T. Kelso 14 pts(7x11fg), 7 rebs

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2008, 01:26:46 AM

New Paltz 83, Morrisville 53. Hawks by 37-20 at intermission and led by J. Anderson 21 pts(9x14fg) in 26'; L. Bertam 15 pts(7x11fg); C. Cornine 9 rebs. D. Coleman 12 pts(6x11fg) in 22' for Mville

Geneseo wins on S. Morton hoop at the buzzer to overcome 79-71 deficit with 3:05 left. Morton scores 14 over final 6' and despite foul woes finishes with 32 pts(10x13fg, 2x3 3s), 10x12ft, 8 rebs, 4 assts, 3 stls. J. Howe 17 pts, 8 rebs; B. Simpson 13 pts; K. Stevens 12 prts, 10 rebs. Oswego's T. Downing hoop at 0:03 provides edge before Morton heroics. Downing 26 pts; K. Reuter 20 pts

Plattsburgh bows despite C. Ruiz 22 pts(10x22fg); E. DEaniyan 9 pts, 15 rebs. Down 35-34 at half and St. Lawrence maintains edge through second half. Larries T. Wopperer 36 pts (including 1,000 career pt), 9 3s; J. Sharlow 16 assts. Pburgh 31x67fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 03, 2008, 07:40:14 AM
Quote from: thebear on November 21, 2008, 11:01:38 PM6-10 Potsdam first year Tom Kelso was a force on the boards, and 6-11 redshirt Greg Lothridge had 10 points on 2 huge dunks, and a shades of Jack Sikma (One of the all-time D-III greats) turn around J.

Sikma isn't an all-time D3 great, Bear. He played for Illinois Wesleyan back when it was an NAIA school. Same with Terry Porter at UWSP.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Razor on December 03, 2008, 10:38:42 AM
If there was any doubt who the best player in the SUNYAC is this year (and possibly the region), I think that it was erased last night in Geneseo.  Scott Morton scored 32 pts. in 24 minutes of play and had 16 of those over the final 7 minutes with his team trailing by 6pts when he re-entered the game because of foul trouble.  The game itself, has got to be one of the best I've ever seen at the D3 level and had 3 lead changes in the final 7 seconds of regulation including a miracle no-look shot by Morton at the buzzer that won the game for Geneseo.  The shot is featured on ESPN's sportscenter as the #1 play of the night and I have posted a link for the video below.  Great battle between to very well-coached programs and 2 great players in Morton and Tommy Downing.  If Geneseo can develop some consistent scoring from others besides Morton and Howe this could be a special year for them.

http://www.13wham.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=202698@video.wokr13.com&navCatId=26
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on December 03, 2008, 02:53:57 PM
Just saw the clip. WOW!  Great stuff. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on December 03, 2008, 04:52:34 PM
That is an unreal shot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 04, 2008, 12:34:54 AM
I concur that was an amazing clip!!   Thanks for the link.  SUNYAC has some entertaining teams this year with surprises in both directions (Cortland    Fredonia   Oneonta)   Should be a very interesting year with out a real monster like Plattsburgh was last year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on December 04, 2008, 04:41:44 PM
Anyone have any theories onto why Cortland is off to such a poor start?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: shaq oneil rulez on December 04, 2008, 06:14:34 PM
Keep New Paltz on the radar this weekend.  They are young but talented, which can always lead to surprises...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 04, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on December 04, 2008, 04:41:44 PM
Anyone have any theories onto why Cortland is off to such a poor start?

The key to this puzzle is the emergence of a point guard to bring the ball up against pressure, and to provide solid, annoying on ball defense.  The other four spots are solid, Lewis & Oliver are a formidable inside presence, Coston is an athletic marvel, and Niehoff is a great shooter, and solid all-around player.

They need someone to emerge who can play in your face defense on tough point & combo guards, and run Cortland's complicated sets, a la princeton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on December 05, 2008, 05:47:52 AM
Quote from: Razor on December 03, 2008, 10:38:42 AM
If there was any doubt who the best player in the SUNYAC is this year (and possibly the region), I think that it was erased last night in Geneseo.  Scott Morton scored 32 pts. in 24 minutes of play and had 16 of those over the final 7 minutes with his team trailing by 6pts when he re-entered the game because of foul trouble.  The game itself, has got to be one of the best I've ever seen at the D3 level and had 3 lead changes in the final 7 seconds of regulation including a miracle no-look shot by Morton at the buzzer that won the game for Geneseo.  The shot is featured on ESPN's sportscenter as the #1 play of the night and I have posted a link for the video below.  Great battle between to very well-coached programs and 2 great players in Morton and Tommy Downing.  If Geneseo can develop some consistent scoring from others besides Morton and Howe this could be a special year for them.

http://www.13wham.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=202698@video.wokr13.com&navCatId=26

Actually, you needn't have linked to another site to show Morton's shot. The entire ESPN interview with Morton, which featured several renditions of the final seven seconds of the game, was linked from the front page of d3hoops.com. The link's still there, in fact, at the bottom of the page. And I'm pretty sure that this site actually had the interview linked before anyone else did.

Moral of the story? Anything you want to see or know about D3 basketball is available right here on this site!

Amazing shot and finish to that game, by the way.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on December 05, 2008, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 04, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: cstate19 on December 04, 2008, 04:41:44 PM
Anyone have any theories onto why Cortland is off to such a poor start?

The key to this puzzle is the emergence of a point guard to bring the ball up against pressure, and to provide solid, annoying on ball defense.  The other four spots are solid, Lewis & Oliver are a formidable inside presence, Coston is an athletic marvel, and Niehoff is a great shooter, and solid all-around player.

They need someone to emerge who can play in your face defense on tough point & combo guards, and run Cortland's complicated sets, a la princeton.



There is some talk that Span cut the point guard that could do that.  I am sure he thinks that Coston can translate his athletic talents into the Defensive pressure as he is playing him at the 1.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2008, 10:09:16 PM

Potsdam 60, Geneseo 55

Oneonta clips Buffalo St. 73-72 at OSt. BS by 34-33 at half. RDragons take lead with 11' left. Extend edge to seven and survive Bengals push at wire. Buff's J. Gray caps team-leading 17 pt (6x19fg) with trey at 0:36 to finish game's scoring. BS has four scoring double figures as does OSt, whose M. Grimes nets 21 pts(8x14fg) with 7 rebs; M. Lane 10 rebs; R. Morin 19 pts(8x12fg)

Brockport and Plattsburgh go to OT tied at 83
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2008, 10:17:39 PM

Cortland 68, Morrisville 39

Fredonia over New Paltz 68-63. Freds by 36-27 at half. B. Cooper 19 pts. NP gets 26 pts from S. Taylor

Plattsburgh at home about to deal Brockport an ot setback
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2008, 10:29:16 PM

Plattsburgh slips past Brockport 99-92 in ot led by C. Ruiz' 41 pts(14x26fg, 3x7 3s, 10x13ft), 12 rebs in 43'. Cards assume 45-37 halftime lead on 19x37fg (5x10 3s). Eagles lead by as many as five in second half. Pburgh up 60-58 on Ruiz hoop at 12:19 and hold off Bport till J. Almeida bucket at 3:57 completes reg pointmaking. Eagles miss at buzzer. See-saw early in ot. Cards get lead for good on D. Tangney jumper at 3:46 of ot. Bport's Almeida with 20 pts(8x16fg, 4x9 3s); M. Wilkes 20 pts(8x22fg). No C. Parrish

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2008, 10:46:08 PM

Cortland rips Morrisville, bounding to 30-12 margin midway. CSters in double figures led by W. Coston 16 pts(5x11fg), 3 stls in 29'; J. Miolan 13 pts(6x10fg); C. Niehoff 13 pts(5x8fg, 3x5 3s) in bench duty; M. Lewis 10 pts(4x5fg), 6 rebs in 23'; P. Oliver 8 rebs. Corts 26x60fg, 7x19 3s). Mville 14x54fg, 1x15 3s and get 12 scorers, E. Wilson 6 pts the best

Potsdam sees 33-25 halftime lead vanish when Geneseo rises 45-43. But 6-0 Bears run regains an edge that's never reversed. Pdam 21x56fg, 6x14 3s. D. Brown 18 pts(5x15fg, 3x8 3s), 7 rebs; A. Dike 14 pts, 7 rebs; T. Kelso 7 rebs, 6 pts. Geneseo 21x52fg. Guests S. Morton 18 pts, M. Baker 11 pts, K. Stevens 11 pts, B. Simpson 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 05, 2008, 11:02:59 PM
Back from Potsdam - Geneseo tilt.  Bears missing starting post Brandon Siskavich, and PG Serge Clement, both on bench in sweats & visibly limping.

Geneseo runs out to a 10-2 edge, but Potsdam, led by Damon Brown's 13 first half points (3 NBA 3's) storms back to a 33-25 halftime edge.  Bears played 4 guards and a post, but their athleticism resulted in a 22-10 first half edge on the boards.  Geneseo will have to rebound better against athletic teams if they are to contend in the 'YAC.

Geneseo recovered in the second half, took a brief lead at 44-43, the teams traded baskets for a while, then Potsdam, continuing to drive against the Geneseo zone and parade to the line maintained a 56-55 margin.  Bears then made 4 straight free throws in the last minute to seal the victory.

Scott Morton led Geneseo with 18 on 6-18 shooting as Bears harassed him all over the court with their switching man-to-man and swarming athletic wings.  Brown led Bears with 18, Alvin Dike added 14, and both had 7 rebounds.  Potsdam freshman big tandem Tom Kelso (6-10) and Greg Lothridge (6-11) combined for 10 pts & 11 rebounds in 37 minutes, as Potsdam absent Siskavich countered Knights size (6-8, 6-6, 6-6, 6-5)with athletic quickness.  Potsdam's overall rebou8nding edge was 45-27.

Potsdam hosts Brockport tomorrow on basketball alumni day while Knights travel to Plattsburgh.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2008, 12:11:11 AM
Plattsburgh State win was the Cardinals 24th straight win against conference opponents dating back to Feb. 17th 2007. 41 points and 12 rebounds by Chris Ruiz will certainly give Scott Morton a a battle for conference player of the week, despite his well publicized shot against Oswego on Tuesday night. (Which was one of the best I've ever seen.) Saturday Morton and Ruiz will go head to head as Geneseo visits Plattsburgh at 4 PM. The winner of that matchup could walk off with player of the week honors, but Morton has to be the favorite with all the publicity his shot received.

Plattsburgh-Brockport battle was typical of the past 6 games these teams have played.(3-3 split)  Cardinals placed 4 guys in double figures tonight. Danny Tangney came off the bench and scored 14 pts on 5-8 fg, 3x5 3s, and Brad Mader also came in and provided a huge lift for the Cards with 13 pts and 14 rebounds(4x6 fg). Starter Errol Daniyan added 14 pts (7x11fg) 7 boards and 3 blocks.

Brockport also placed 4 guys in double figures. In addition to M. Wilkes with 21 and J. Almeida with 20 pts and 11 rebounds, Eamon Kays had 15pts,(5x11 fg) and
7 boards. Joe Clark chipped in with 13 pts,(4x5fg, 3x4 3s)

Overtime was the name of the game in Plattsburgh tonight as the #1 ranked Plattsburgh Cardinal hockey team took on the #7 ranked Oswego Lakers. The Cardinals scored with about a minute left in the 3rd perod to force OT and then won it with 2 minutes to go in the extra session. Hoop and Hockey fans got their money's worth tonight.  

Big win for the Potsdam Bears tonight over Geneseo. Just when Geneseo was getting some recognition in the top 25 poll (Their only loss coming into tonight's game was a 2 point setback to #9 Gettysburg) the Bears bring them back down to earth. That's only going to make it tougher for the Cardinal's tomorrow as the Blue Knights won't want to slip up again. 
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 06, 2008, 01:29:12 AM
Excellent wins for Plattsburg & in particular Potsdam.  Magic & Bear you 2 have to be pleased. For Potsdam to win without Siskavich & Clement is truly impressive. Maybe Potsdam will get some love in the d3 top 25?  Probably deserve it but probably won't.  Magic if Ruiz keeps putting up numbers like that he won't have to worry about all-league, he'll have to worry about All-American. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2008, 04:38:43 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2008, 12:11:11 AM
Scott Morton well publicized shot against Oswego on Tuesday night. (Which was one of the best I've ever seen.)


Being one of the "old guys" while impressed,  In terms of import, Morton's shot pales in comparison to what we at Potsdam call "The Shot"  - Leroy Witherspoon's 45 foot jump shot with no time remaining in regulation at Augustana, vs. Augustana in the National Championship Game.  This was pre three point rule, so it tied the two teams & the Bears went on to win in OT.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2008, 04:50:56 AM
Quote from: with age came? on December 06, 2008, 01:29:12 AM
Excellent wins for Plattsburg & in particular Potsdam.  Magic & Bear you 2 have to be pleased. For Potsdam to win without Siskavich & Clement is truly impressive. Maybe Potsdam will get some love in the d3 top 25?  Probably deserve it but probably won't. 

Don't think the Bears are quite ready for any poll votes yet.  Too many ?.  They have to start shooting better than 30%.  They are temporarily reduced to a pair of promising freshmen post players, who are still freshmen. 

They also have two tough games Brockport today & SLU on Tuesday then finals.  Their opponent in Orlando on Jan 2 is St. Joseph's (LI) who is undefeated with an average margin of around 20, and a potential All-American in JJ Walsh who is averaging 27 pts & 9 rebs.

In 04-05, it took us forever to even get poll votes, I think we were like 13-0 before we made the polls.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on December 06, 2008, 08:04:44 AM
I remember the amazing Leroy Witherspoon's shot in 1981. The difference was that Witherspoon was FACING the basket from half court so we all knew he would make it! Now if he'd made that shot while facing the other way it would have been impressive. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: davemand316 on December 06, 2008, 03:08:55 PM
Hey Everyone,

I have been reading this board for awhile now but never posted. What does everyone think about O-State? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2008, 05:58:47 PM

Geneseo handles host Plattsburgh 70-57 by pulling away late. Gens by 34-29 at half only to see Cards pull even at 39. Knights use a run to pull away from 53-51 edge to take 62-51 margin behind J. Howe, J. Blair trey and S. Morton hoop. Gens 26x57fg to hosts 23x63 (3x21 3s). Morton 19 pts(7x16fg, 2x6 3s), 9 rebs, 4 assts in 36'; Howe 14 pts(7x13fg), 12 rebs; M. Baker 12 pts(5x7 3s), 4 assts. Pburgh's C. Ruiz 16 pts(6x24fg) in 36'; E. Daniyon 11 pts(5x7fg) in 19'

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2008, 06:17:36 PM

Potsdam 84, Brockport 75

Oneonta stops Fredonia 75-65. Races to 36-17 halftime lead and fires 28x53fg including 15x27 first half. M. Grimes 18 pts(8x10fg), 8 assts in 37'; B. Hooks 12 pts(3x5 3s); B. Beckford 10 pts, 10 rebs; R. Morin 12 pts(5x10fg); S. Gillette 12 pts(3x6 3s); M. Lane 6 assts. Freds 22x60fg. B. Cooper 14 pts(6x12fg) in 24'; W. Davis 14 pts in 27'; J. Bryant 11 pts(3x6fg)
RDragons with nice outfit. Veterans delivering and newcomers contributing. Off to swift start. Felt OSt has underachieved in recent times, but now making some waves with wins over Cortland, BS and Freds, plus nice n-C showing. Still to be seen if OSt for real .....appear so
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2008, 06:27:51 PM

New Paltz swats Buffalo St. 85-78 in Buffalo where Hawks shoot 34x63fg. Hold 36-31 lead at half. S. Taylor 28 pts(12x18fg), 8 rebs in 35'; L. Bertram 14 pts, 7 rebs; J. Anderson 14 pts; W. Wichard 10 pts; O. Agyemang 10 pts. BS 27x68fg. J. Tyndal 20 pts(6x8 3s); J. Gray 17 pts; AJ White 16 pts; A. Samedi 15 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 06, 2008, 06:31:14 PM
It was a good run for the PlattsburghCardinals.  The magic of 85-86 and 86-87 still stands.  The Bears had two quality wins over the weekend.  I'm going to knock on wood but the Bears may be ready for run this year.  The game Tuesday against St. Lawerence should show where the Bears are in the region. There has been some positive posted about St. Lawerence.  Should be a good game.

The shot by Morton from Geneseo was amazing but it didn't put his team in a postion to win a National Championship
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2008, 10:54:02 AM

Oswego 76, Morrisville 61

Potsdam certainly moves front and center with dispatch of Brockport on heels of Friday victory. Both at home, but came shorthanded! Bears strike for first 10 points vs. Port and command 41-34 lead through 20'. Clinch with 19x26ft effort in second period. Make 27x52fg, 28x39ft. A. Dike 22 pts, 10 rebs; D. Brown 16 pts, 3 assts; B. Graney 14 pts(5x8fg), 4 assts in 34'; O. Minott 11 pts, 3 assts; G. Lothridge 9 pts(4x5fg), 9 rebs in 21'. Eagles 29x74fg, 7 trnvrs. J. Johnson 16 pts; E. Kays 14 pts, 8 rebs; M. Wilkes 2 pts(1x4fg), 2pf in 20'; J. Almeida 8 pts(3x9fg) in 20'; C. Parrish 2 pts(1x3fg), 3pf in 13'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2008, 06:20:59 PM

Oswego jc transfer S. Francois with 26 pts, 26 rebs(12 offensively) in beating of Mville. T. Downing 15 pts(3x5 3s), 10 assts; C. Burridge 14 pts; K. Reuter 11 pts, 3 stls. Lakers 26x64fg and up 38-29 at intermission. Stangs 20x71fg and led by E. Wilson 16 pts(10x10ft); K. Gordon 13 pts, 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on December 07, 2008, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: bearnation on December 06, 2008, 06:31:14 PM
It was a good run for the PlattsburghCardinals.  The magic of 85-86 and 86-87 still stands.  The Bears had two quality wins over the weekend.  I'm going to knock on wood but the Bears may be ready for run this year.  The game Tuesday against St. Lawerence should show where the Bears are in the region. There has been some positive posted about St. Lawerence.  Should be a good game.

The shot by Morton from Geneseo was amazing but it didn't put his team in a postion to win a National Championship

What you looking for?  The best shot? Or the best shot under the circumstances?  That goes to Witherspoon.  The best shot goes to Morton.  I have hit 45 foot shots before (and I am no player) but the best shot?  Thats Mortons hands down. 

P.S.  What is really cool is that after the 3, Morton tries to take the charge.  Rare.  Afetr not getting the call, he sprints down and makes a once in a lifetime shot instead of arguing a potantial no call (the right no call).  Even more rare.  Great moment.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2008, 02:29:53 PM
Tomorrow night at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium, Potsdam and St. Lawrence men have their annual contest.

Bears go into the contest at 5-1, having swept Geneseo & Brockport over the weekend.  SLU is 3-1 (only loss to #21 Ursinus) and hasn't played since last week, when they beat Plattsburgh 82-71.

Potsdam wins over the weekend were without the services of senior starters PG Serge Clement, and PF/C Brandon Siskavich, so first year players Olando Minott, Tom Kelso and RS Greg Lothridge stepped up and provided scoring and rebounding in their absence.  Bears start three seniors; 6-2 wing Damon Brown, 6-3 wing/post Alvin Dike, and 6-4 point/wing/post Brendan Graney, plus Minott/Clement & Kelso.

SLU is led by 6-4 Sr guard Tom Wopperer who got hot vs. Plattsburgh and scored 36 including 9x13 3 pt FG's. Veteran supporting cast with Sr posts Bela Vonnak & Richard Williams, and junior PG Josh Sharlow.  Saints have promising newcomers in 6-5 Ralph Temgoua, wing from Paris, France, and 6'4 bruiser Garret Sharlow from nearby Massena, NY

SLU plays at a high tempo, likes to score in the 80's.  Potsdam a bit more under control likes to keep opponents in the low 60's. 

Should be a war, as both teams are off to great starts, have lots of returnees, quality adds, and coaches who used to work together, and are friends off the court.

Potsdam off after this game until 1/2 vs. unbeaten St. Joes (LI) in the ECAC Holiday Festival in Orlando.  SLU follows this toughie hosting a Saturday afternoon matchup vs. unbeaten Ithaca.

Winter is here in NNY, day started out at -10, and it's all the way up to 15.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2008, 04:00:30 PM

Bear,

We wouldn't know about that (ccccold) anymore. Spend majority of our time in F.L.A. But will get north for a few days later this month. Let's see, started a 53 ......now 75! Sorry about that.

Potsdam looks like it has the goods .......now if we can just get our RDragons kick started ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2008, 04:49:33 PM
Thanks, Dex, although the Bears do escape to the Sunny Southland for the ECAC Holiday Festival in Orlando, perhaps you will get a chance to catch their act?

My way of coping with these insane temps, is, truth be told, once the wife finishes grading exams, we're off for two weeks to the San's - Antonio & Diego, where the temps will be much more to our liking.  Then 1/10-1/17 I'm helping the wife lead her team - 16 music business students, to the music industry trade show in Anaheim, so I will miss 22 of 31 winter days between 12/17 & 1/17. :)

As for your Dragons, It would be good if they took a while yet to jell.  Potsdam has to play at Cortland on 1/30 and that's rarely a good time.

I was shocked this weekend at the number of injuries, Geneseo women were down a potential A/C player as well as their top sub; PG Bihr was dragging a bad ankle.  'port men appeared to have a number of injuries, Wilkes looked hobbled, Parrish obviously has some injury problems, and Dunne was using almost hockey-like shifts with his wings.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 08, 2008, 08:09:17 PM
Like I said the Morton's shot was amazing but no one will talking about a shot made to win a game in December.  They will be talking about a great shot made 1981 in 2008 because of what the shot produced.  Which is why it was the better shot aka Leitners shot for Duke or Jordan from the corner.  The best was Leitner's.  Jordan was also facing the hoop.  Was that a great shot?
Wish I was closer to Potsdam even with the cold will be a great game tomorrow!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: cstate19 on December 09, 2008, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: bearnation on December 08, 2008, 08:09:17 PM
Like I said the Morton's shot was amazing but no one will talking about a shot made to win a game in December.  They will be talking about a great shot made 1981 in 2008 because of what the shot produced.  Which is why it was the better shot aka Leitners shot for Duke or Jordan from the corner.  The best was Leitner's.  Jordan was also facing the hoop.  Was that a great shot?
Wish I was closer to Potsdam even with the cold will be a great game tomorrow!

I am fairly sure that people will be talking about Morton's shot no matter when it occurred.  Look, I am not saying that Morton's shot was more IMPORTANT.  I am saying that Morton's shot was better, i.e. tougher.  Case in point.  Let's play a game of H-O-R-S-E.  What shot makes you say "oh sh*t" when your opponent hits it? A 45 foot 3 or Morton's shot?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 09, 2008, 04:12:25 PM
Just because of the shorter distance, there is probably a higher probability of hitting Morton's shot in Horse than a 45 footer.  In fact I'm pretty sure I've made that shot in Horse. (One of the few).

They both fall into the category of "Hail Mary" heaves for sure.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 09, 2008, 07:44:35 PM
Yes, it is alot nicer down here in Florida than in Potsdam or even Bport. My beloved Eagles are off to a rough start. The North Country trip is always a tough trip, and why do they always go up there just before final week. Anyway the Eagles are a little disappointing with all those 5th year players and nobody stepping up and taking control. They did depend on Hot Rod and B-Dubs too many times in the past. Now they are gone and they need a leader!!!! Step up and make us go this 2nd semester. You got plenty of time but get it going Eagles!!! Always a fan--Enjoy the holidays
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 09, 2008, 09:38:22 PM
SLU beats Potsdam 90-84 in a very entertaining game.

Stats still MIA.  SLU PG Josh Sharlow is the real deal, very active and athletic.  Matchup with Burton on Saturday should be a beauty.

Potsdam within 3 at 87-84 with :14 left, but Saints cinched it from the FT line.

Potsdam led 24-13 at midpoint of the first half, but foul trouble on their posts allowed SLU to level at 26-26 four minutes later. 

SLU lead extended to as much as 11 in 2H, but Bears never gave up.

Potsdam freshman 6-10 big Tom Kelso DNP - on the bench in sweats with his right hand in a cast.

Will update stats once the crew figures them out.

Potsdam finishes the semester 5-2, SLU moves to 4-1 & faces unbeaten Ithaca on Saturday afternoon at 4:00.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2008, 12:35:45 PM

Potsdam shoots 15x27fg first half and trails 39-38! Bears finish 32x63fg, 9x21 3s and 11x13ft, BUT SL 25x40ft in Pdam. Hosts D. Brown 29 pts(11x21fg, 5x11 3s) in 37'; B. Siskavich 16 pts(5x7fg, 3x4 3s), 4pf in 16'; A. Dike 14 pts(6x11fg), 7 rebs in 34'. Saints 30x71fg, 5x14 3s, 6 trnvrs to Bears 13

New Paltz crushed at Williams 92-55. Ephs out 9-0and 54-22 at half on 10x20 3s. NP 22x60fg to Willies 35x72fg, 17x32 3s. Hawks S. Taylor 18 pts(9x13fg) in 29'; L. Bertram 10 pts(4x13fg), 9 rebs in 26'; M. Hauser off bench for 10 pts(3x10fg) in 19'. Eps at 6-2 led by K. Snyder 27 pts(10x17fg, 6x9 3s) in 26', B. Schultz 23 pts(9x16fg, 4x6 3s) in 22'

Morrisville saddled with 69-43 loss to Wells. Mustangs trail 32-17 at half against 2-6 foe. Mville 16x54fg. E. Wilson 11 pts(5x10fg), 3 assts, 4 stls, 6 rebs in 25'

Wednesday finds Oneonta hosting Ithacas
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2008, 11:12:23 PM

Oneonta comes within missed ft of upsetting Ithaca, instead falling 79-77 in ot at OSt. RDragon B. Beckford scores at reg buzzer for 71-71 tie, is fouled but doesn't convert. OSt scores first six ot points before IC comeback and victory at 0:04 on S. Burton two ft. OSt winning trey bid catches iron. Oneonta by 40-36 at half on strength of 18x35fg; finishes 37x68fg, 7x11ft, 4x14 3s. IC 28x67fg, 20x27ft, 3x17 3s. OSt 46-35 reb advantage. Beckford 23 pts, 11 rebs, 5 blks, 2 stls, 2 assts; R. Morin 12 pts; M. Grimes 11 pts. Burton 27 pts(10x12ft); J. Bostic 15 pts, 6 rebs; S. Leahy 12 pts, 6 rebs; B. Rogers 11 pts, 6 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 11, 2008, 02:18:04 AM
Tough loss for Potsdam.  Must say was pleased to see Potsdam get at least one vote in the top 25 , but I am afraid that will be gone now.  Must say that it is time to give St Law a little love in the poll too.  Victories over Middlebury & Potsdam both of whom got votes. Only loss is to ranked Ursinius.  Ithaca squeaker over O State shows how tough it is to run the table.  Still think game upcoming vs St Law will determine the early frontrunner for the region.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 11, 2008, 10:16:21 PM

Fredonia gets past Medaille 69-61. Leads 33-31 at half. Fires at 25x59fg clip. W. Davis 19 pts(5x15fg, 3x9 3s), 4 assts, 3 stls; K. Saunders 15 pts(4x11fg, 2x7 3s), 7 rebs, 3 assts, 3 stls; J. Bryant 14 pts(7x8fg), 3 assts; B. Cooper off bench 0 pts(0x2fg), 3 stls in 15'. Freds 20 trnvrs to Medaille 21. Freds 7-2, Medaille 5-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2008, 10:10:17 PM
Oneonta rebounds from their tough 2 pt. loss to Ithaca with a 22 pt. win over a decent Westfield State team, 68-46, in the opening round of the Brodie Tournament at RIT.  The Red Dragons will take on host Rochester Tech for the championship tomorrow. RIT defeated Houghton 89-73 in tonight's 2nd game.   

Oneonta rated a slight favorite in the championship game despite being the visiting team, as long as they don't have a night like they did against Hartwick back on Nov.18th.                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 12, 2008, 10:35:41 PM

Oneonta had 34-21 edge through 21'. Rides R. Morin 20 pts(9x14fg), 6 reb in 19'; B. Hooks 10 pts(2x3 3s); B. Beckford 6 rebs, 5 assts in 19'. OSt 27x57fg. Title test with RIT at 3 p.m.

Morrisville stays winless in 71-49 fall to Hamilton. S. Grant heads Mustangs with 12 pts(5x9fg, 2x4 3s). J. McCants 8 rebs, G. Vaughn 8 rebs. Mville 19x56fg and trails 32-17 at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2008, 01:22:15 AM
It was nice to see the dilemma over SUNYAC player of the week for the week of Nov. 30th thru Dec. 6th be resolved the way it was. Co-Players of the week!! Congrats to Scott Morton and Chris Ruiz, two classy individuals who have both earned the weekly honor 2 times already this young season. Their stat lines for the week are nearly identical. (See Below)

Kyle Reuter, Oswego's fine shooting guard was the player of the week in between Morton and Ruiz winning.

Keep an eye on these 3 guys as they make a run for SUNYAC MVP. It's still early and I'm sure other players will state their case for consideration but these 3 are the frontrunners right now.

Damon Brown for Potsdam, Mike Grimes from Oneonta, Carson Niehoff at Cortland will all be in the race and Shereef Taylor from New Paltz making a run with averages of 20ppg (53% FG 83% FT) and 7.7 rebounds after 3 SUNYAC contests. I know of at least 8 other guys that could be on this list and will be heard from.   

PLAYERS OF THE WEEK (From the SUNYAC Website)
December 8
Scott Morton (Syracuse/Westhill), Geneseo senior guard
Morton averaged 23 points, eight rebounds, three assists, 1.3 steals, and .3 blocks over three games in the last week. His game-winning shot at the buzzer over Oswego garnered nation coverage on ESPN and Yahoo.

Chris Ruiz (Bronx/St. Agnes), Plattsburgh sophomore guard
Ruiz scored a SUNYAC-high, career-high, and possible school record 41 points in an overtime win against Brockport. Ruiz also scored 39* points in a loss against St. Lawrence. Over three games last week, he averaged 26.3 points, 5.7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2.3 steals, and .33 blocks.
*NOTE: Averages for Ruiz are correct but SUNYAC website says he scored 39 against  ST. Lawrence, he didn't, he only had 22.   ( His grandmother had 39 ;D)

December 1
Chris Ruiz (Bronx/St. Agnes), Plattsburgh sophomore guard
In a close 59-58 loss to Clarkson, Ruiz scored 25 points, shooting 76.9% from the field. He also grabbed four rebounds, two assists and one block. Ruiz went four for five from the free throw line.

November 24
Kyle Reuter (Mexico/Mexico), Oswego senior guard
Reuter averaged 22 ppg over the weekend in the SUNY Old Westbury Panther Classic on his way to being named the tournament MVP. He also surpassed 1000 career points, only the thirteenth player in school history to do so. He shot 52% from the field and the three point line, while shooting 75% from the free throw line. Oswego is undefeated this season (4-0).

November 17
Scott Morton (Syracuse/Westhill), Geneseo senior guard
Morton picked up 22 points, nine rebounds, four assists, five steals and one block in a 76-53 win over the Elmira Soaring Eagles. The senior guard shot 52.9% from the field, 33.3% from the three point arc, and 50% from the free throw line
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 13, 2008, 06:54:38 AM
It nice to see a mention of Shereef Taylor  Freshman FDR/Hyde Park.  I watched him in high school and thought he would go to the next level.  He stayed home to play for New Platz and has steped into a leadership role as a freshman.  He may be the piece which New Platz builds around.  Always good to see a talented kid become successful.  He has always shown a level of maturity on the court.
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Post by: jdex on December 13, 2008, 05:35:12 PM

Oneonta captures RIT tourney title with 72-66 conquering of host Tigers keyed by mvp B. Hooks. His late game 3-pointers power OSt to seventh win in 10 starts. In 14' off the bench Hooks has 12 pts(3x9fg, 3x7 3s). RDragons take advantage of cold shooting RIT first half for 31-24 lead. Tigers' reversal at 11' mark and extend to five. But at 5:42 M. Lane hoop provides OSt the lead for good. Lane 13 pts(6x10fg), 6 assts in 38'; T. Talbot 12 pts(4x7fg) in 25' off bench; M. Grimes 11 pts(4x5fg). Sink 27x58fg. RIT with 38-33 boards. Tigers M. Carson 22 pts(9x15fg), 19 rebs; N. Korinchak 11 assts. Westfield St. at 7-3 with 70-54 consi victory
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Post by: magicman on December 13, 2008, 07:51:36 PM
Ithaca's 95-89 win over St. Lawrence this afternoon should give them the top ranking in the East region when the NCAA releases them in January. Don't see them relinquishing that spot for quite a while. Barring an upset in early E8 league action, their next toughest test could come against Potsdam St. on Jan. 13th in Ithaca. The Bombers are off until Jan. 2nd when they open up E8 play against Elmira. This is the 1st of 5 league games in 10 days, followed by the Potsdam game 2 days later. Ithaca has already beaten Cortland, Rochester, Oneonta, and St Lawrence, 4 teams that were contenders for the top spot in the East, and did so with road wins in all 4 instances. Could move up a couple of spots in the Top 25 ranking next week.   
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Post by: jdex on December 13, 2008, 10:36:56 PM

Oswego drops 104-94 verdict to Nazareth. Naz up 48-43 at half and rides 33x43ft to OSt 24x36ft. Lakers T. Downing 30 pts(11x20fg, 3x8 3s), 6 rebs, 7 assts, 5 trnvrs, 4pf in 40'; K. Reuter 28 pts(10x21fg, 3x11 3s), 5 rebs in 37'; C. Burridge 16 pts(8x10ft), 10 rebs, 5pf in 29'; S. Francois 10 rebs, 5 pts in 36'. Goes 32x78fg, 6x30 3s, 45 rebs. Naz 33x73fg, 54 rebs. C. McAdam 31 pts(8x13fg, 14x18ft in 35'; J. DeHimer 27 pts(11x24fg), 16 rebs; R. McAdam 17 pts; J. Major 14 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2008, 02:37:08 AM
The shot by Scott Morton continues to receive national attention with a write up in this week's issue (Dec 15th cover date) of Sports Illustrated. Under SI Players on page 27, SI refers to it as "The shot of the year", and calls the end of the game between Geneseo and Oswego "one of the best college hoops finishes ever".
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Post by: Thunder on December 16, 2008, 09:39:56 AM
I still think the finish of the D2 Championship a couple of years ago ( Barton and ???) was one of the best finishes in a college game. That was amazing the sequence of events.
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Post by: thebear on December 16, 2008, 11:12:52 AM
The again there's the shot at the Carrier Dome last night.  65 footer banked in at the buzzer for the win.  Cleveland State beats the undefeated 'cuse.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: shaq oneil rulez on December 16, 2008, 08:52:45 PM
Quote from: bearnation on December 13, 2008, 06:54:38 AM
It nice to see a mention of Shereef Taylor  Freshman FDR/Hyde Park.  I watched him in high school and thought he would go to the next level.  He stayed home to play for New Platz and has steped into a leadership role as a freshman.  He may be the piece which New Platz builds around.  Always good to see a talented kid become successful.  He has always shown a level of maturity on the court.

I'd agree.  New Paltz has struggled early on, but Taylor has shown he has the ability--and desire-- to take over games.  Good things to come with that player. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on December 17, 2008, 10:19:22 PM
1) How about the floater Mark Perry made against Hobart to send the Golden Eagles to the Sweet 16. Game winner by a senior in his possible last game on the road. Huge moment for the Brockport program.
2) Anthony Williams' half court heave against Rochester in the NCAA tournament. Another huge win for the SUNYAC.

Those two shots are probably the best two shots I've seen to win games. Anybody else remember them.
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Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 17, 2008, 10:24:13 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on December 17, 2008, 10:19:22 PM
1) How about the floater Mark Perry made against Hobart to send the Golden Eagles to the Sweet 16. Game winner by a senior in his possible last game on the road. Huge moment for the Brockport program.
2) Anthony Williams' half court heave against Rochester in the NCAA tournament. Another huge win for the SUNYAC.

Those two shots are probably the best two shots I've seen to win games. Anybody else remember them.

Yeah....that sucked.    ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2008, 10:51:29 PM
Quote from: slickyquick on December 17, 2008, 10:19:22 PM
1) How about the floater Mark Perry made against Hobart to send the Golden Eagles to the Sweet 16. Game winner by a senior in his possible last game on the road. Huge moment for the Brockport program.
2) Anthony Williams' half court heave against Rochester in the NCAA tournament. Another huge win for the SUNYAC.

Those two shots are probably the best two shots I've seen to win games. Anybody else remember them.

There are heaves and then there are jump shots. Anthony's shot was a perfectly executed jump shot, just over the half court line, which made it all the more amazing. ;D
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Post by: scooterman on December 17, 2008, 11:32:40 PM
I agree with you Magic, there are heaves and shots. I think both Perry's and Williams' were shots. Morton's was a trick shot by any standard(even though great finish to game). I witnessed Perry's shot and that was a huge step for my Eagles. That was the night Medbury(a freshman than became the real deal). He never realized how good he was!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 18, 2008, 11:12:22 PM
Now that we have all decided that a jump shot to finish a game is more amazing.  Lets once again go to the 1981 National Championship game ( I really wish the internet and You Tube were around then).  I personal only saw the shot on a large screen video played in the Student Union prior to the 1986 Championship.  We were undefeated and why not bring out some motivation.  Besides we had lost a heart breaker the year before to North Park.  When Spoon hit that shot the place went nuts.  Yes he was facing the basket and it was from about 45 feet. Yes it was amazing and it was a video.   I believe if the college were to play the tape of that game today the reaction would been the same!
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Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 19, 2008, 07:57:31 AM
I would add this caveat to the discussion of great shots.  The thing about Morton's shot that puts it at #1 for me (of those I've seen) is the sequence of events that led up to it.  Hitting the 3 to put Geneseo ahead with 10 seconds left, racing back down the court to try to take a charge and then getting off the ground to hustle back down the floor to be in position to make the shot.  Gotta give the kid an A+ for hustle and desire.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 24, 2008, 01:55:13 AM
I guess what it comes down to for me is the definition of amazing. A perfect form jump shot from 45 feet to win a game is a great shot but for me an amazing shot has to have a mystical element like Morton's.  Flicking a shot over your shoulder with .1 on the clock while imitating superman.  I would venture to guess that on any given night maybe a dozen high school games are decided on a last shot heave facing the basket from beyond 30 feet but I would probably doubt many are decided by a shot like Morton's or we would have seen it on ESPN already. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on December 24, 2008, 11:00:18 AM
Great shot stories aside, the fact that Morton had the whole nation talking about the YAC is a great thing for the conference.  What made it special for me was not the shot alone, but as other have already pointed out, the sequence of events that led to it actually occurring. Great game that showed both teams leaving it all on the floor... a testament to D 3 athletics!

Happy Holidays to all... the conference schedule can't get back under way soon enough! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2008, 10:04:34 PM
Quote from: with age came? on December 24, 2008, 01:55:13 AM
I guess what it comes down to for me is the definition of amazing. A perfect form jump shot from 45 feet to win a game is a great shot but for me an amazing shot has to have a mystical element like Morton's.  Flicking a shot over your shoulder with .1 on the clock while imitating superman.  I would venture to guess that on any given night maybe a dozen high school games are decided on a last shot heave facing the basket from beyond 30 feet but I would probably doubt many are decided by a shot like Morton's or we would have seen it on ESPN already. ;D

Good point.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 26, 2008, 01:20:22 PM
 
Joyless season continues for Buffalo St., still winless on heels of close losses to Oglethorpe (73-70) and Catholic (77-75) in Atlanta on 12/19-20. Round robin format. J. Tyndal all-tourney, gets 17 pts, 4 reb, 4 assts vs. 8-2 host Oglethorpe. A. Samedi 12 pts; J. Gray 10 pts; A. Speed 10 pts. BS down 32-30 at half, up 59-58 at 5'. Hits 32x64fg, but just 2x7ft to winning Petrels 14x20ft.
BS makes good run at 8-2 Catholic. Challenges late after 36-31 halftime hole. Again 32x64fg but again sunk at ft line. Bengals 7x14 to Catholics 19x31. Very uncharitable event for  BS. J. Gray 22 pts(10x24fg), 6 rebs, 5 assts; Tyndal 19 pts(7x14fg), 4 rebs, 3 assts

Morrisville's winless Mustangs fare better. They're ppd. vs. Mount St. Vincent!
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Post by: bearnation on December 26, 2008, 11:20:07 PM
Just watched the ESPN recap of 2008 and I have to give credit where credit is due.  They ranked the Scott Morton  flick number 5.  At least it didn't finish ahead of the Eli to Tyree pass(number 2)! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 27, 2008, 12:02:07 AM
jdex - 2 funny ...  morale boost by a postponment... go 'stangs - win your next 1. Really cool about Morton's shot.
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Post by: shaq oneil rulez on December 30, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
Does anyone want to take bets on how badly NYU will beat New Paltz tonight?  I am going to go out on a limb and say 35...I'll also bet that you will see a New Paltz full time-out within the first two minutes of the game.  However, if I am wrong, I will guarantee that the New Paltz starting 5 will play all 40minutes (Assuming that dopey looking forward stays out of foul trouble).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 30, 2008, 05:59:45 PM

Not so fast ........it may indeed turn out that way BUT  ......something to chew on ......

New Paltz on Monday beat (88-76) Wheaton, Mass. team that's 6-3 with wins over Salem St. and Conn. College, and recent narrow loss to Bridgewater (via major comeback route). NP had five in double figures: H. Wichard 15, S. Jenkins 14, J. Anderson 13, L. Bertram 13 (6 reb), M. Hauser 13 (6 reb). Hawks by 42-33 at half.

Tourney host NYU downed 4-2 Rivier, NH 76-62. Rivier scored early season win over respected Colby-Sawyer
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2008, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: shaq oneil rulez on December 30, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
Does anyone want to take bets on how badly NYU will beat New Paltz tonight?  I am going to go out on a limb and say 35...I'll also bet that you will see a New Paltz full time-out within the first two minutes of the game.  However, if I am wrong, I will guarantee that the New Paltz starting 5 will play all 40minutes (Assuming that dopey looking forward stays out of foul trouble).
Quote from: jdex on December 30, 2008, 05:59:45 PM

Not so fast ........it may indeed turn out that way BUT  ......something to chew on ......

New Paltz on Monday beat (88-76) Wheaton, Mass. team that's 6-3 with wins over Salem St. and Conn. College, and recent narrow loss to Bridgewater (via major comeback route). NP had five in double figures: H. Wichard 15, S. Jenkins 14, J. Anderson 13, L. Bertram 13 (6 reb), M. Hauser 13 (6 reb). Hawks by 42-33 at half.

Tourney host NYU downed 4-2 Rivier, NH 76-62. Rivier scored early season win over respected Colby-Sawyer

Have to give jdex the edge in the prediction game tonight. NYU 73 New Paltz 68
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Post by: jdex on December 30, 2008, 11:01:10 PM

New Paltz 39-34 lead at half and 68-67 with 1:42 left on J. Anderson 'j'. NYU in 6-0 closing run. Violets out to 21-3 spree starting second half. NP 24x55fg for game, just 10x33 2nd half. H. Wichard 14 pts(5x7fg, 4x6 3s) and all-tourney; Anderson 13 pts(5x11fg), 12 rebs; S. Taylor 13 pts; M. Hauser 11 pts(4x7fg). Hawks 15x25ft. Unbeaten NYU 26x54fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on January 01, 2009, 09:02:36 PM
Shaq you usually say good things about New Paltz.  What did they do? kill your cat!!!  This NP team is not the same team as old.  They actually have talented players.  Look at the stats, they have two freshmen as their leading scorers and a third starting playing over 20 minutes a game.  It is not easy to win with freshmen anywhere especially the SUNYAC which is very competitive.  They may make a run to the top half of the league this year.
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Post by: gobombers15 on January 01, 2009, 10:27:00 PM
New Paltz looks better this year, but I'm officially skeptical of NYU. Not so sure they're the #2 team in the region right now, even with their undefeated record. Interested to see what happens when they play Oneonta on 1/6.
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Post by: jdex on January 02, 2009, 09:17:07 PM

Cortland roughs up Greensboro 64-43 in opener of Roanke tourney at Salem, Va. RDragons take 40-22 control at half and unload at 28x58fg rate. M. Lewis 12 pts, 10 rebs; P. Oliver 10 pts, 13 rebs; R. Evans 10 pts(4x5fg); C. Niehoff 10 pts, 5 rebs; W. Coston 6 assts; J. Miolen 5 assts. Greensboro 16x61fg and has five game win streak snapped to go 5-5. CSt faces 9-1 Roanoke in final. Roanoke over PS-Abington 106-55

Potsdam tumbles 76-73 to 8-0 St. Joe's, LI in ECAC Festival in Orlando. Bears next get 7-3 Montclair St.

Geneseo halts Medaille 80-72, taking 48-35 lead at half. S. Morton 23 pts(5x9fg, 12x14ft), 8 assts, 6 rebs; B. Simpson 17 pts(8x14fg); K. Stevens 13 pts(5x8fg, 3x6 3s); J. Howe 11 pts, 7 rebs
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Post by: jdex on January 02, 2009, 09:45:49 PM

Potsdam slips despite 27x54fg to Joe's 23x62. Stripe telltale: Bears 12x19ft to Joe's 24x31 and saddling B. Siskavich with 4pf in 17'. LIers up 30-25 at half. D. Brown 18 pts(6x13fg, 4x10 3s), 8 rebs; A. Dike 14 pts(6x8fg); Siskavich 12 pts(4x7fg); B. Graney 10 pts(4x6fg)
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Post by: jdex on January 02, 2009, 10:58:33 PM

Buffalo St. racks up first win with 77-68 beating of Heidelberg in BS tourney. Bengals face 8-3 Widener in final. Widener gets by St. Lawrence 97-93. BS decides its game early by whizzing to 43-20 halftime bulge. Heidelberg, 4-6, cuts to 7 with 5' left. A.J. White 18 pts(8x14fg); J. Gray 18 pts(6x13fg), 6 rebs; G. Carr 12 pts(5x6fg); A. Speed 11 pts, 13 rebs; J. tyndal 11 pts, 7 assts. BS hits 28x54fg and hikes record to 1-6
Widener and SL exchange lead 18 times. Saints, 4-3, paced by R. Temgoua 24 pts; B. Vonnak 17 pts, 8 rebs

On Saturday, Plattsburgh vs. 6-3 Scranton in opening round of Scranton tourney. Richard Stockton at 10-1 faces 3-7 Shenendoah, Va. And Brockport is at DeSales, Pa. tourney vs. 2-4 Immaculata U. Host at 8-0 takes on 3-7 John Jay

And Cortland faces Roanoke in tourney title go. Potsdam in Orlando vs. Montclair in ECAC Festival

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2009, 05:20:45 PM

Cortland loses 84-82 in double OT to Roanoke in latter's tourney final in Salem, Va. Roanoke goes to 10-1 .....Cortland 4-4

RDragons up 36-32 at half and rally from five back to tie at 64 in reg.

Saw via video stream .........Cortland slow, plodding team because of size .....runs sets without a lot of steady ballhandlers. Little penetrating. And where the heck is Carson Niehoff this season???? Simply looks lost
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Post by: jdex on January 03, 2009, 05:37:02 PM

Potsdam tumbles 75-66 to Montclair in Orlando's ECAC Fest. Bears 5-4, Montclair 8-3. Pdam trails 34-27 at break. Watches NJites bang down 11ax20 3s while hitting 4x17 itself. Bears 26x63fg, 10x11ft to Montclair 29x60fg, 6x8ft and 20 assts. D. Brown 19 pts(7x15fg, 3x6 3s), 8 rebs in 32'; A. Dike 16 pts(7x12fg), 5 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls in 33'
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Post by: jdex on January 03, 2009, 08:31:18 PM

Brockport takes first round 78-52 win over Immaculata, Pa  in DeSales, Pa tourney. Eagles take on 9-0 DeSales Sunday. DeSales 86-53 over John Jay. Bport extends 30-21 halftime lead and features J. Almeida 22 pts(7x11fg, 3x4 3s), 6 reb in 17'; M. Wilkes 13 pts; E. Keys 10 pts, 12 rebs; J. Clarke 10 pts. Hit 25x57fg. Bports 2-4

Buffalo State goes under vs. Widener 87-71 in BS tourney title fray. Widener by 39-38 at half and builds to double figures 5' into final half. Bengals twice within nine thereafter. All tourney J. Gray 24 pts; A. Speed 13 pts, 5 rebs; A. Samedi 11 pts; all tourney AJ White 10 pts. BS 29x63fg, 21 trnvrs vs. 9-3 Widener. BS 1-7. St. Lawrence takes consi 90-79 over Heidelberg

Cortland 2OT disappointment vs. Roanoke soothed by R. Evans 22 pts(7x12fg, 6x10 3s) in 35'. All tourney M. Lewis 20 pts(8x13fg), 15 rebs, 5pf in 46'; all tourney P. Oliver 11 pts, 13 rebs; fr pg N. Sutedjo 4 assts in 14'. Then there's  C. Niehoff 3x15fg, 0x6 3s, 8 pts, 3 rebs in 36'. CSt hurt by 17x31ft to hosts 21x27ft. Corts 56-34 reb margin; 28x69fg, 9x25 3s, 22 trnvrs. Greensboro 92-52 consi over PS-Abington
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Post by: jdex on January 03, 2009, 08:39:18 PM

Plattsburgh bows 66-52 to Scranton in Scranton tourney opening round. Burg vs. Shenendoah, Va in Sunday consi. Richard Stockton over Shens 74-57
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Post by: magicman on January 04, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Plattsburgh St. falls to Shenandoah 63-39 in the consolation game of the Radisson Invitational at Scranton. Cardinals fall to 3-6 and face a tough Middlebury team on Tuesday.
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Post by: magicman on January 04, 2009, 05:46:49 PM
Brockport State downs undefeated Desales 61-49. Desales, the #25th ranked team is D3 Hoops top 25 poll, falls to 9-1. Big win for the Port. Scooterman will be happy down in the sunshine state. Bport improves to 3-4.
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Post by: magicman on January 04, 2009, 06:16:04 PM
Oneonta travels to Utica and comes away with a 77-71 win. Red Dragons improve to 8-3. UC drops to 3-4.

Oneonta next at undefeated NYU on Tuesday. With Brockport knocking Desales from the unbeaten ranks today, can Oneonta do the same at NYU? Oneonta dropped  a 2 pt OT decison to unbeaten Ithaca earlier and NYU won a hard fought decision over New Paltz 73-68 eariler this week. The SUNYAC might strike again. NYU could get some votes in the next Top 25 poll so this could be an interesting regional matchup. 

Utica also gets to take on an unbeaten opponent on Tuesday as they travel to Ithaca. Bombers should win by 9.
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Post by: jdex on January 04, 2009, 06:33:04 PM

Oneonta bumps off UC on 27x54fg, 21x29ft shooting. R. Morin 15 pts(7x11fg) in 31'; M. Lane 13 pts(6x12fg), 5 rebs; B. Beckford 12 pts(6x11fg), 11 rebs; T. Talbot 10 pts. D. Herring 22 pts for UC which trails 33-32 at half and briefly leads in second half. Otherwise it's OSt by as many as nine. UC 25x63fg, 18x23ft in falling to 3-3 while OSt. stock rises to 8-3 with a Tuesday date vs. NYU and plenty of road dates (like 9 of next 11 games)

Plattsburgh mighty flat vs. 4-8 Shenendoah, Va whose Hornets sting the Burg with 14x24fg in first half enroute to 38-21 lead. Cards finish just 13x57fg, 1x16 3s. B. Mader 13 pts(5x13fg), 15 rebs; E. Daniyon 11 pts(4x7fg; C. Ruiz 4 pts(1x10fg, 1x7 3s) in 18'.  In title go Richard Stockton 77, Scranton 62

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 04, 2009, 06:54:37 PM

Brockport pg I. Mack mvp in DeSales trimming. Has 10 pts, 6 assts, 2 stls; all tourney E. Keys 13 pts, 6 rebs; J. Almeida 13 pts, 6 rebs; J. Clarke 6 rebs; M. Wilkes 11 pts. Ports down 30-28 at half, hits 24x55fg, 6x18 3s, 7x10ft
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Post by: scooterman on January 05, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
Congrats to my beloved Eagles--Hopefully this is the start of their resurgence to the SUNYAC elite!!!They needed a big win at DeSales and this should push them in the right direction for a strong second semester. Did not see C. Parrish in the lineup either night. Doesn't look like it effected them. Good luck and keep it going. Magic keep me informed--The golfing is taking away from my b-ball time!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2009, 06:24:39 PM

Yeah, Scooterman, ain't it tough! Got in 18 today at Legacy near Bradenton. Conditions somewhat better than CNY; actually a lot better. Sorry 'bout that
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2009, 09:32:36 PM

Geneseo eludes Pitt-Bradford 83-81 on B. Simpson 2ft at 0:59. S. Morton leads rally from 78-71 deficit and finishes with 27 pts(13x20fg), 7 reb, 3 assts in 31'. K. Stevens 14 pts(5x9fg, 2x4 3s), 10 rebs; M. Hoy 10 pts(4x8fg); J. Howe 10 pts(4x7fg); M. Baker 7 assts. Knights 35x62fg, 6x14 3s and lead 46-44 at half. PB 4-4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2009, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 05, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
Congrats to my beloved Eagles--Hopefully this is the start of their resurgence to the SUNYAC elite!!!They needed a big win at DeSales and this should push them in the right direction for a strong second semester. Did not see C. Parrish in the lineup either night. Doesn't look like it effected them. Good luck and keep it going. Magic keep me informed--The golfing is taking away from my b-ball time!!

Go ahead rub it in about the golfing. I even gave you a karma point to get you out of the negative ranks. And I'm not sure about the golfing taking away from your b-ball time, I think it might be the poor start your Eagles got off to this year kind of dimmed your enthusiasm.  That and no big Plattsburgh-Brockport battle for SUNYAC supremacy to keep you focused. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2009, 05:05:35 AM
Some tough non-conference matchups tonight for the SUNYAC teams.

Middlebury at Plattsburgh St. 8PM  Middlebury looking to avenge last years loss to the Cardinals when Cards came back from 20+ point deficit in 2nd half to beat the Panthers in Middlebury. This year both teams have beat Norwich and Johnson St. and lost to St. Lawrence. Middlebury handed #13 Richard Stockton their only loss. Cardinals, a young team, has had trouble come crunch time. Foul shooting woes and turnovers continue to plague them.  Think the Panthers win this one 73-65.

Oneonta at #32 NYU 7PM  Oneonta takes on their 2nd undefeated team and hopes the outcome is different than the last time. Had Ithaca on the ropes and missed that huge foul shot that would have tumbled the Bombers from the unbeaten ranks. Will they fare any better this time out? I hope they do, but on the road I think they lose a tight one 69-65

Clarkson at Cortland St. 6PM  Clarkson is a scrappy team that doesn't give up and hustles all over the court. But tough loss to Uof R last night and traveling down to Cortland today may be to much to overcome. Red Dragons off to a disappointing start at 4-4 but I think they get the job done 67-61.
 
Keene St. at New Paltz St. 7PM  Hard game to predict but Keene has played some good teams and is averaging 86 pts a game. Fared better against Williams than the Hawks did. Edge to the Owls 81-74 

Hobart at Buffalo St. 8PM  Both teams struggling with Buff St. finally breaking into the win column last weekend. Bengals have lost 4 games by a total of 10 pts, including 1 pt loss at Oneonta. Hobart hung with Fisher and Potsdam St. losing to each by 2. Bengals win #2 71-68.

St. Lawrence at Oswego St. 8PM St Lawrence is averaging 86 pts a game and  Oswego is rolling up 92 ppg. However the Lakers have been pounding the Cantons and Morrisvilles while losing to Geneseo and Naz. The Saints own wins over Middlebury, Potsdam and Plattsburgh. 2 of their 3 losses have come against ranked teams and as "the bear" said "don't see a huge gap between SLU and Ithaca". The Saints take this one 92-84.

Hope I'm right on the SUNYAC teams I picked to win. Hope I'm wrong on the ones I didn't.
Audio links available for the Oneonta-NYU and New Paltz-Keene St. games off the D3 Hoops scoreboard page. Wish they had one for Oswego-SLU as well.








Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2009, 08:42:00 PM

Cortland for the second time in four days beaten in double OT --- tonight at home by Clarkson 55-54!! Virtually same CSt squad routed Knights a year ago in Potsdam. Hard times for 4-5 RDragons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2009, 09:09:07 PM

This had to be a tough watch! Cortland scores game's first five points before Clarkson connects nearly five minutes into play. Corts advantage most of first half which ends 23 all. CSt by as many as seven in second half and has 41-39 lead with 3:30 left in reg. Regulation ends 41-41 on B. Linton hoop at 0:04. Corts also lead most of first OT. Clarkson extends on Linton two ft at 0:07. Second OT stands  54-54 at 2:12 -- E. Pickering delivers gamer at 1:13 on second of two ft. Then CSt has turnover and R. Evans steal, but two shots fail. Excitement galore!!

Corts 19x65fg, 4x13 3s, 12x23ft. Knights 20x61fg, 1x15 3s, 14x17ft. Evans 17 pts(7x14fg, 3x6 3s) in 42'; C. Niehoff 13 pts(2x8fg, 8x10ft) in 38'; M. Lewis 9 pts, 9 rebs in 36'; W. Coston 3x16fg, 7 reb in 44'. Clarkson gets 12 pts(4x13fg) from Linton; G. Koduah 11 pts, 12 rebs; K. Murry 11 rebs; Pickering 1x10fg. Corts 4-5, Knights 8-2 on heels of close Monday loss to Rochester
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2009, 10:13:41 PM
Plattsburgh St. loses a nailbiter to Middlebury 68-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gobombers15 on January 06, 2009, 10:38:51 PM
Oneonta falls at NYU, 62-55. Oneonta cuts deficit to two, 54-52, with 1:28 left but can get no closer.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2009, 10:40:59 PM
Plattsburgh has 33-27 lead at half and holds off 10-2 Middlebury nearly entire second half -- but does not score again with 64-61 edge at 3:05 on K. Brooks hoop. Tied on ft at 1:29 and trails at 0:46, then yields closing points at 0:25 and 0:15. E. Daniyan 29 pts(14x19fg), 15 rebs; C. Ruiz 15 pts(6x13fg), 5 rebs; Brooks 10 pts, 9 assts

New Paltz over Keen St. 73-70. Hawks up 35-21 midway but trail late, then clinch on 6x7ft over final minute led by M. Hauser, S. Taylor clutch charity flips. Taylor 21 pts, 7 rebs; J. Anderson 12 pts(6x7fg); H. Wichard 10 pts. NP 31x69fg, 10x14ft, outboarded 43-33 by 6-5 Keenes

Oneonta gives NYU a scare, leading 26-24 at half. A two point game with 1:28 left -- NYU scores again at 0:31 to begin clinch. OSt's B. Beckford 14 pts(6x12fg), 11 rebs, 4 assts; M. Grimes 10 pts. Hits 21x56fg, 6x27 3s. Unbeaten Violets 23x54fg

Buffalo St. 77, Hobart 67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2009, 10:54:47 PM

Stl Lawrence 90, Oswego 87

Buffalo St. comes back from 35-32 hole at half to trip Hobart. Forges lead at 8:45 and never relinquishes. Fires at 27x52fg clip, 18x26ft led by J. Gray 27 pts(10x14fg, 2x3 3s), 7 rebs, 3 assts, 2 stls in 31'; AJ White 16 pts(6x8fg, 2x2 3s); A. Samedi 13 pts(5x8fg); J. tyndal 10 pts; A. Speed 4 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2009, 11:02:09 PM
Tough loss for the Cardinals tonight at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. Tied at 64 with just over a minute left, zebra waves off Chris Ruiz basket for the lead with call of offensive interference by E. Daniyan(which never happened). Panthers go down and score on a layup by Jamal Davis. Ensuing possession by the Cards, with 25 secs. left, Plattsburgh bench called for a technical. B. Rudin makes 1 of 2 fts and Middlebury goes up 67-64. Cardinals' Ruiz misses a 3 and Panthers fouled again. Convert 1 of 2 to go up by 4 and hold on for the win. Cardinals led at the half 33-27 as Panthers closed a 10 pt deficit down to 6. Biggest lead in 2nd period was 6 pt Cards edge, at 58-52 with 5:00 to play. Panthers finally catch Cards at 64 with hoop and 1 by Jamal Davis.   Errol Daniyan leads Cardinals with career high 29 pts. Ruiz adds 15 and Ketema Brooks chips in with 10. Panthers led by 6' 10" Andrew Lock with 16, and Aaron Smith with 13. Kyle Dudley added 11. Davis had 10 pts. including 5 in a row that first tied the game at 64 and then gave them the lead for good at 66-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2009, 11:14:52 PM

Make it St. Lawrence 98, Oswego 87
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 07, 2009, 09:42:28 AM

Okay .......looks like St. Lawrence 90, Oswego 87  .....SL 49-44 at half and has five in double figures led by T. Wopperer 26 pts. Saints 16x24ft to Lakers 11x12. OSt starting five in double figures and all big minutes. C. Burridge 21 pts(8x14fg), 11 reb; S. Francois 18 pts(8x9fg), 11 rebs; T. Downing 16 pts(4x6fg, 3x5 3s); K. Reuter 14 pts(5x16fg; C. Monaghan 11 pts. Outboarded 45-32, shoots 34x71fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 07, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
Magic- I have to admit- I am a little disappointed in the 1st semester play of my Eagles because of all the experience that squad still posesses. I know they are better than they showed and hopefully those wins will ignite a second semester run. I don't like to see the P-burg down either because I think Coach Curle does a great job of recruiting and putting quality play on the floor.
Jdex-you must be just south of me about 20 minutes. I am at Exit 246 off of 75. Let's play some golf!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: shaq oneil rulez on January 08, 2009, 11:28:53 AM
Not a great week for the SUNYAC, eh? Thankfully New Paltz came up with a win to save a little non-conference face.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 08, 2009, 03:22:17 PM
A little parity should be a good thing for followers of SUNYAC hoops - got a little dull the last few years with Brockport and Plattsburgh alternating steamrolling the league (with a little Potsdam mixed in i.e. 2005).  Still shocking to see the Eagles and Cardinals sporting a combined 6-11 record right now.

Is Oneonta really the best team in the conference?  How times change.  What about Fredonia hiding out at 7-2, 1-1; are the Blue Devils for real?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 08, 2009, 11:01:07 PM

Oswego suffers 81-74 loss to Clarkson. Lakers down 45-44 at half despite T. Downing 17 pts. in 17'. Downing finishes with 23 pts; S. Francois 18 pts, 15 rebs; C. Monaghan 11 pts. For 9-2 Knights B. Linton 18 pts; E. Pickering 16 pts; R. Jefferson 11 pts; J. Hood 10 pts, 10 rebs; G. Koduah 10 pts, 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 09, 2009, 11:27:45 AM
Well if everyone looks at the league, it will go in cycles. There will always be times that teams are slightly down because of admission increases, injuries, etc. Over the past 25 years, there have been stretches of great teams (winning conference tourney, just looking at record books not regular season records) at certain schools. Buff St started it with Bihr in 83-84 (2 years), Potsdam for two years in 85-86, back to the Bengals for 5 years, mix in Fredonia and Bport the next two, back to the Bihr boys for 3, Steve Holmes led Geneseo squad for two years, Spanny at Cortland, Whitmore at Bport for two, back to Bihr's last run, Dobbs at Potsdam for two years, and finally Curle's last three squads.

And if you look at those teams, Buff St had Gettys, Groovers, and Sheppard, Potsdam was Mitchell and Bullock, Buff St was Wolters, Gainey, the famous E-lon-E McCracken, Geneseo was led by Fitch, Cortland was Williams, Bport was Medbury/Hollis/supporting casts, Buff St had a wide range of players that peaked at the right time, Potsdam had Connolly, Harris, Clayton, and finally Platty had Williams/Gorham. All these teams were led by guys that could have/or did play at a higher level. Great players will get you wins. Being a great coach is one thing but if you can't recruit the best players then chances are you won't win (obviously, there are exceptions).

So yes, it is disappointing to see Platty and Bport where they are at but Bport just beat the 25th ranked team on the road without Cantrell Parrish. Watch out for the them come tourney time, they are battle tested as usual. First it was Whitmore and now Dunne with probably some of the toughest scheduling in the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2009, 10:12:48 PM

Fredonia 66, Plattsburgh 59
Geneseo 84, Cortland 61
Buffalo St. 83, Potsdam 63
New Paltz 100, Morrisville 53
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2009, 10:44:34 PM

Fredonia rallies from 41-32 halftime deficit, seizing lead on W. Davis' trey with 3:29 left. Devils 22x51fg. J. Bryant 19 pts; B. Cooper 10 pts; B. Morse 8 pts, 10 rebs. Plattsburgh's C. Ruiz scores 25 by intermission and finishes with 29 (9x16fg, 5x8 3s). E. Daniyan 10 pts, 12 rebs. Cards 21x48fg after 15x26 and 6x9 3s by half. Cards with 20 trnvrs

Geneseo pulls away from 37-34 intermission edge. Hits 33x54fg. Knights 19 up with 12' left. B. Simpson 20 pts(9x11fg), 5 rebs, 4pf in 29'; S. Morton 19 pts(8x15fg); J. Howe 16 pts(8x10fg), 5 rebs in 33'. Cortland 24x51fg, 8x19 3s, 32-24 board edge with 19 trnvrs. J. Miolen 14 pts(6x14fg), 5pf in 27'; C. Milke 10 pts(4x5fg, 8 rebs in 22'; M. Lewis 8 pts(4x6fg), 7 rebs in 31'; C. Niehoff 6 pts(2x3 3s) in 18'

Buffalo St. has 37-27 hold at half and builds quickly although Pdam within 8 at onetime. BS then pulls away. Bengals 31x62fg paced by A. Speed 19 pts(6x9fg), 13 rebs; J. Gray 15 pts(7x17fg), 5 stls, 3 assts; J. Tyndal 13 pts(6x12fg; AJ White 12 pts. Potsdam 25x62 fg, 6x11 3s, 22 trnvrs. D. Brown 25 pts(9x12fg, 6x6 3s), 5 rebs in 35'; A. Dike 15 pts(6x13fg); B. Graney 7 rebs, 4 assts

New Paltz rolls to 54-17 margin at half. J. Anderson 22 pts(10x16fg), 10 rebs; L. Bertram 15 pts, 12 rebs, 5 assts; H. Wichard 13 pts; O. Agymang 8 assts. Hawks 40x74fg, 9x14 3s. M'ville 20x62fg. K. Gordon 14 pts(4x15fg, 1x8 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 10, 2009, 06:34:57 AM
Slickyquick, I agree with your statement that you need to have 1 or 2 all american type players to be successful. You also have to have a system in place that translates to the success of  the team before the individual.  You also need to have that type of player buy into the system.  There are many players who can play but they never become part of the team.  Also you need to have a deep bench supplied with good role players  that also understand the system.  When you have to make the long weekend journey which a SUNYAC schedule requires the entire team has to be ready to play.  If you were to only count on 1 or 2 maybe 3 guys to be successful, you would be in trouble.  Last night Potsdam made 22 turnovers and lost by 20.  Were they ready to play?  Is the system in place? Have they bought into the system? 0 for the second semester.

Early this year I watched New Platz play SUNY Purchase .  Purchase has a DI and 2 DII transfers.  They were up on New Platz by almost 20. New Platz came back and almost won. New Platz only lost by 3 with a team that is mostly underclassmen. New Platz never gave up and had a nice rotation for their bench. The reason Purchase will not be successful this year is because they have no bench to support these guys.  Each of them played 35+minutes.  Their rotation was 6 and 1 guy played 2 minutes.  This is not the formula for success.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: sjfcards on January 10, 2009, 08:59:24 AM
I see that Brockport knocked off Desales recently. I have heard from others on the e8 board that Desales was a pretty solid team, and they were 10-0. Was the win just a fluke thing, or is Brockport perhaps waking up from a really slow start?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 10, 2009, 11:26:56 AM

Should find out about Bport pretty quickly. At conference leader Oneonta today and get good St. Lawrence at home tomorrow, then comes Chase followed by Oswego, Fredonia .........

Don't believe DeSales as good as its record. Opening six point win over SJF a feature. Only two or three other w's vs. teams with winning records. Still, Eagles may be coming together. See to have the talent, especially for SUNYAC which appears somewhat so-so.

As for the conference, have to take Oneonta and New Paltz seriously. Geneseo and Fredonia certainly draw respect. Oswego dangerous. Others unproven at this date. Discount Morrisville, of course.

Cortland? A preseason pick. Big disappointment. Plenty of problems in many areas from veteran crew. Dropped pair of 2OTers to good squads. Blown away at Geneseo last night and hosts Oswego today
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 10, 2009, 12:07:13 PM
Nation, I totally agree with you about having talent and having chemistry to win games. Obviously everyone has to buy in to what the coach wants and basically all the players that I named were able to conform to the team concept.

If you have that All-American type player that completely buys in to what the coach wants then it is easier to get everyone else on the same page. As far as the bench goes, you need to have a good bench to win on a consistent basis with the exception of those Princeton days when Carill was teaching the backdoor like it was their job, those guys consistently played 38-40 minutes almost every game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2009, 06:40:48 PM
Buffalo St 76-65 winners at home over Plattsburgh St.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2009, 08:21:17 PM
Fredonia St. win their 2nd SUNYAC contest of the weekend with a 72-55 defeat of Potsdam St. Blue Devils up 36-21 at the break and lead by 20 to cruise. Freds led by Kevin Saunders with 22 pts on 7x15 fg. Wayne Davis added 16 pts on 4x9 fgs 4x6 3's and 4 assists. Julius Bryant  chipped in with 12 pts and 4 assists.
Damon Brown paced the Bears with 18 pts on 5x10 fg 1x5 3's 7x7 ft. Alvin Dike added 15 pts on 4x6 fg 7x9 ft. Fredonia moves to 9-2 (3-1 conf) and remains unbeaten at home this season. Bears in freefall losing 5th straight to go from 5-1 early record to 5-6 (2-1 conf).

Blue Devils off till next weekend when they face Oswego and then Morrisville at home. 

Doesn't get any easier for Potsdam as the travel to Ithaca for a Tuesday matchup with the unbeaten Bombers. Several weeks ago I posted that this might be a hiccup in Ithaca's battle to run the table or at least remain unbeaten a while longer.  Now feel the Bombers will win by double figures. Teams split 2 games last year with Bears beating Bombers minus Bostic in Clarkson's gym by 11 93-82. A healthy Ithaca returns the favor 2 months later 83-75. Don't think the Bombers are overachieving but the Bears are definitely underachieving.   

"the bear" out in San Diego for the week, has this game circled on his calendar. Might not like the results though unless Potsdam wakes up. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2009, 08:44:35 PM
Oneonta rebounds from their loss to NYU with a win against Brockport to remain undefeated in conference play at 4-0. Stretch overall record to 9-4. Red Dragons grab lead with 4:47 remaining in 1st half and never headed. Up 29-20 at the break  they quickly stretch lead to 17 by the 14 min mark and settle for 8 pt win. Eagles fall to 3-5(0-3 conf.)
Oneonta was paced by Troy Talbert with 19 pts (5x7 fg 9x13 ft), Michael Grimes with 16 pts (8x12 fg), and Brian Beckford with 6 pts, 10 rebounds and 3 assts.
Golden Eagles Mychal Wilkes led all scorers with 24 pts (10x18 fg 2x5 3's). Eamon Kays added 15 pts (7x17 fg) and 7 boards.

Oneonta off till next weekend when they make the northern run to take on Plattsburgh and then Potsdam.

Brockport, right back at it tomorrow, facing another tough game against St Lawrence, before the Chase tourney begins on Wednesday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 10, 2009, 10:49:48 PM

New Paltz kayoes guest Geneseo in hefty 92-65 fashion, leading 42-24 at half. Hawks 35x65fg, 9x16 3s vs. 8-3 Knights. H. Wichard 16 pts(6x12fg, 4x8 3s); S. Taylor 16 pts(8x11fg), 6 rebs, 3 assts, 3 stls; L. Bertram 15 pts(6x7fg), 8 rebs; S. Jenkins 12 pts(5x9fg, 2x4 3s) in 19'. Gens S. Morton 18 pts(7x17fg), 6 rebs, 4 blks; J. Howe 10 pts(5x17fg). Knights 21x68fg, 1x12 3s, 22x29ft

Buffalo St. overcomes 30-28 Plattsburgh edge at half. Gets quick reversal but has just single digit lead till 5' mark. Homestanding Bengals J. tyndal 20 pts(5x10fg, 2x3 3s, 8x11ft), 3 assts, 2 stls in 30'; J. Gray 17 pts(7x14fg), 6 rebs, 5 assts; G. Carr 13 pts(4x7fg). BS 26x51fg (15x28 2nd half), 6x13 3s. Pburg's C. Ruiz 17 pts(5x13fg); E. Daniyan 12 pts(6x8fg) in 14'. Cards 26x62fg, 12x21ft, 1x12 3s

Oswego shoots down 37-31 Cortland halftime lead. Corts 16x34fg in opening 20', then 6x32. Lakers 20x54fg, 8x19 3s, 19x25ft. K. Reuter 17 pts(5x16fg), 6 rebs, 3 stls, 3 assts in 39'; T. Downing 17 pts(5x8 3s); S. Francois 15 pts(9x13ft), 10 rebs; C. Burridge 10 rebs. RDragons C. Niehoff in starting lineup for 16 pts(6x15fg in 29'; P. Oliver 11 prts(5x12fg), 8 rebs, 5pf in 24'; C. Milke starts and nabs 11 rebsin 29'; M. Lewis off bench for 17 rebs, 14 pts(4x9fg, 6x10ft) in 25'. Host Cortland with one at 6:05, then scores just four more points

Morrisville in first win with 59-50 halting of Medgar Evers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 11, 2009, 10:46:26 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 10, 2009, 08:21:17 PM
Doesn't get any easier for Potsdam as the travel to Ithaca for a Tuesday matchup with the unbeaten Bombers. Several weeks ago I posted that this might be a hiccup in Ithaca's battle to run the table or at least remain unbeaten a while longer.  Now feel the Bombers will win by double figures. Teams split 2 games last year with Bears beating Bombers minus Bostic in Clarkson's gym by 11 93-82. A healthy Ithaca returns the favor 2 months later 83-75. Don't think the Bombers are overachieving but the Bears are definitely underachieving.   

"the bear" out in San Diego for the week, has this game circled on his calendar. Might not like the results though unless Potsdam wakes up. 

Actually greater Anaheim for the week.  Helping my better half as she takes 16 of Potsdam's very best to the annual NAMM music industry trade show at the Anaheim Convention Center. 

Nevertheless, Bears skid is puzzling, Both teams in Fla were for real, Fredonia continues to impress, Buff State has talent, and seems to be jelling.  Potsdam had some injury problems at end of first semester, but boxes indicate all hands on deck. 

Problem appears to be reliance on very young post players, and point guard by committee.  Ship needs to change course, and facing a nuclear Bombers team at the bulb this week.

My bigger question is the New Paltz/Geneseo score.  I think the New Paltz/Oneonta road trip is going to define who the real contenders are in the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsonwbny on January 11, 2009, 03:09:15 PM
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i just joined the boards and ill keep you guys updated on the Bengals
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2009, 06:54:25 PM

Brockport clipped 89-74 at home by St. Lawrence. Saints with 45-30 board edge after Oneonta had 47-24 command the previous night. Still no C. Parrish for Eagles who trail SL 44-37 at half. Bport 27x63fg. M. Wilkes 14 pts(6x12fg, 2x3 3s), 4 assts in 29'; J. Clarke 10 pts(4x5fg) as 12 Eagles score. I. Mack 7 assts. SL has five in double figures -- T. Wopperer 22 pts(9x14fg, 4x7 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bamm on January 12, 2009, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 11, 2009, 10:46:26 AM
My bigger question is the New Paltz/Geneseo score. 

Seriously, what the hell happened?  Anyone?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 12, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
I think it might be an indication that New Paltz doesn't suck for the first time in forever.  However, there is evidencet that its 4-1 start in SUNYAC play might be a mirage - 4 of those games were at home and the 1 roadie was at the utterly pathetic Morrisville Mustangs.  Next four YACers are on the road at Potsdam, Plattsburgh, Geneseo and Brockport...no joke even if the Cards and Eagles are down this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2009, 04:21:13 AM
Tonight's Action:

Potsdam St. at Ithaca     Both teams looking to get back on track. Bombers mad       
7:00                               and Bears don't travel well, 0-5 on the road. Ithaca sends
                                         Potsdam to 6th straight loss, 87-73.

Buffalo St. at Cortland St.     Red Dragons on 4 game skid can't afford to lose this   
8:00                                      one. Bengals won 4 of last 5 after 0-6 start.         
                                               Tough call, Cortland 72-69.

Plattsburgh State at Oswego   Lakers looking for some payback after last year's
8:00                                          2 losses to the Cardinals, who struggle down the
                                                   stretch. Oswego hits their foul shots late, 76-71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2009, 04:35:42 AM
Quote from: bamm on January 12, 2009, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 11, 2009, 10:46:26 AM
My bigger question is the New Paltz/Geneseo score. 

Seriously, what the hell happened?  Anyone?

As jdex posted in his summary: Geneseo field goals 21 of 68, 1 for 12 3's.  New Paltz 35 for 65 fg's 9 for 16 3's. I think that pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: shaq oneil rulez on January 13, 2009, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on January 12, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
I think it might be an indication that New Paltz doesn't suck for the first time in forever.  However, there is evidencet that its 4-1 start in SUNYAC play might be a mirage - 4 of those games were at home and the 1 roadie was at the utterly pathetic Morrisville Mustangs.  Next four YACers are on the road at Potsdam, Plattsburgh, Geneseo and Brockport...no joke even if the Cards and Eagles are down this year.

Considering the fact that all those teams have losses this season that would lead anyone dumbfounded, I would say the weekends are up for grabs.  Your skepticism warranted, but if we are going to look at numbers here, New Paltz clearly doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2009, 09:20:23 PM

Potsdam crushed 116-94 at Ithaca. Wasn't that close. IC 24x37fg first half for 57-34 runaway. Pdam 37x71fg but IC fires at 45x71 clip led by C. Cruz 22 pts(9x10fg) in 21'; S. Burton 20 pts(8x11fg) in 26'; M. Jordan 19 pts(7x12fg) in 18'; J. Bostic 14 pts(7x10fg), 12 rebs in 24'. For Bears, D. Brown 29 pts(12x17fg), 6 rebs in 33'. IC 39-27 board margin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2009, 09:52:20 PM
Cortland St. and Buffalo St. go to overtime to decide this one as Red Dragons come away with a much needed win 79-70 to move to 2-3 in the conference.
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Post by: jdex on January 13, 2009, 10:07:28 PM

Cortland uses late first half P. Oliver boost to get within 34-31 at half. Takes lead on M. Lewis hoop at 46-44 and has four point edge in final minute of reg. Buff State's J. Tyndal lands trey and then two ft in closing seconds for 62-62 knot. RDragons J. Miolen and C. Niehoff provide quick OT edge. Niehoff 16 pts; R. Evans 16 pts; Oliver 13 pts, 10 rebs; S. Manning 6 assts. BS gets 20 pts, 5 rebs from AJ White; Tyndal 19 pts; J. Gray 10 pts; A. Speed 13 rebs
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Post by: with age came? on January 13, 2009, 10:46:05 PM
Potsdam baffles me.  Is Siskavich still nursing his injury because 0 for 3, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 3 turnovers in 20 minutes is not his ordinary stat line?  Anyone know what's up re: this tailspin?
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Post by: jdex on January 13, 2009, 11:14:18 PM

Oswego 91, Plattsburgh 83
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2009, 01:38:27 AM
Oswego grabs 46-38 halftime edge and holds on to send Plattsburgh to their 7th straight loss. Cardinals had more FG's (35 to 28), shot 60% to Oswego's 43% and out rebounded the Lakers 34-23 but Lakers ride long range bombs to win nailing 15 3 pointers to Plattsburgh's 3. Oswego paced by Kyle Reuter with 28 pts, Tommy Downing with 23 pts, 10 assts, S. Francois with 15 pts,11 boards and C. Burridge with 11 pts. Cards led by Brad Mader with 22pts on 11x13 fgs, Errol Daniyan with 22 pts, Chris Ruiz with 15 pts and Danny Tangney with 10. 
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Post by: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2009, 01:50:52 AM
Plattsburgh (http://www.plattsburgh.edu/athletics/cardathletics/hockey/men/) is focusing on ice hockey!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2009, 02:36:57 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2009, 01:50:52 AM
Plattsburgh (http://www.plattsburgh.edu/athletics/cardathletics/hockey/men/) is focusing on ice hockey!

Its always been a hockey town Ralph. But what do you expect when "Miracle on Ice" Lake Placid is 45 mins. away in one direction and the Montreal Canadians are 45 mins. away in another direction.  Field house is usually filled to capacity. Both men's and women's teams have been top ranked all year. Men have been #1 for 6 straight weeks. Women were #1 but just fell to #2 yesterday. However, I'd trade both those rankings to have the Cardinals' Hoops team in D3 Hoops Top 10. Men's BB is down this year(tough when you lose all 5 starters from a sweet 16 team) but we're young and we'll be back.

I notice McMurry is having a pretty good year so far. They played the other division of the ASC tough. Looking like a 20+ win season. Why no nickname?     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2009, 09:08:38 PM
Here are a couple of blog entries and K-Mack's visit at Homecoming from 2007.

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2007-10-11/Everything%27s+bigger%2C+including+Homecoming
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2009, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 14, 2009, 02:36:57 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 14, 2009, 01:50:52 AM
Plattsburgh (http://www.plattsburgh.edu/athletics/cardathletics/hockey/men/) is focusing on ice hockey!

Its always been a hockey town Ralph. But what do you expect when "Miracle on Ice" Lake Placid is 45 mins. away in one direction and the Montreal Canadians are 45 mins. away in another direction.  Field house is usually filled to capacity. Both men's and women's teams have been top ranked all year. Men have been #1 for 6 straight weeks. Women were #1 but just fell to #2 yesterday. However, I'd trade both those rankings to have the Cardinals' Hoops team in D3 Hoops Top 10. Men's BB is down this year(tough when you lose all 5 starters from a sweet 16 team) but we're young and we'll be back.

I notice McMurry is having a pretty good year so far. They played the other division of the ASC tough. Looking like a 20+ win season. Why no nickname?     
Patrick Stewart (Plattsburgh SID) was SID at McMurry.  Great guy and one of the best hockey players ever to have lived in Abilene!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2009, 10:33:26 PM

Geneseo shades Brockport 61-59 on K. Stevens's '3' at 0:16. Reversal comes after M. Wilkes '3' for 'Port at 1:46. Eagles by 30-29 at half and lead most of second period of Chase tourney test. Gens get Nazareth next. Naz upsets RIT. S. Morton with 16 pts(5x12fg), 5 assts in 40' for Geneseo. B. Simpson 10 pts(4x6fg). Sinks 21x45fg, 5x13 3s, 14x19ft. Host Bport touts J. Clarke's 20 pts(8x10fg, 4x4 3s), 7 rebs; I. Mack 7 assts. Lands24x50fg, 6x15 3s, 5x10ft
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Post by: magicman on January 16, 2009, 07:17:56 PM
Cortland loses to SUNYIT on the road 71-50. D. Golembiowski with 19 pts and 17 rebounds leads the Wildcats. SUNYIT reverses early Cortland lead to go up by 38-29 at the half. Wildcats extend lead to double figures early 2nd half and cruise to win. Wildcats placed 4 guys in double digits. D. Brown with 18pt. 3 stl, D. Hahn with 13 pts, 7 reb, and A. Edwards with 12 pts and 8 asst.  Corts. led by J. Miolan with 15 pts. and P. Oliver with 11 pts and 8 boards.

Brockport nipped by RIT 62-61
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Post by: jdex on January 16, 2009, 08:43:48 PM

Brockport beaten on N. Korinchak ft at 0:02. Missed first toss. Port up 30-29 at half. Gets 14 pts(5x11fg, 4x6 3s) from M. Wilkes; J. Clarke 12 pts(4x9fg), 5 assts; E. Kays 9 pts, 7 rebs. Outrebounded 38-25 by M. Carson-led Tigers. Carson 21 pts(7x12fg), 12 rebs in 40'; S. Roe 17 pts(6x10fg, 5x8 3s). Port 21x50fg, 7x14 3s, 12x14ft; RIT 21x49, 7x20 3s, 13x24ft
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Post by: magicman on January 16, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
Plattsburgh St. in a mild upset takes down unbeaten in the conference Oneonta St. 71-59.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2009, 10:19:07 PM
Braved the 13 below zero temps to catch the Plattsburgh-Oneonta game tonight. Cardinals grabbed the lead midway thru the 1st half and were never headed. Up by12 at the 3:30 mark they went into the break with a 34-22 lead. Oneonta cut into that margin and several times got within 5 but the Cards went back up by 10 with 8:35 to go at 53-43. Red Dragons came back and cut it to 3 on a 4 point play by Maurice Lane at 7:06 53-50. Chris Ruiz held to only 6 pts suddenly exploded and scored 10 unanswered pts. to stretch the lead for Plattsburgh to 63-50. Ruiz in slightly over 2 minutes hit a 3, scored on a layup after a turnover, hit a 10 foot fallaway jumper, and nailed another 3. He also hit Plattsburgh's next 2 buckets to account for 16 consecutive points for his team sandwiched around several Red Dragon baskets. Coach Tom Curle said this was a must win for his team and the players didn't let him down.

Cardinals placed 4 men in double figures led by Ruiz with 22, Errol Daniyan with 17, R.J. Ponesse with 11, and Brad Mader with 10. Oneonta was paced by Michael Grimes with 17 and Lane with 14. 

Oneonta St. falls to 9-5 overall and 4-1 in the conference. Plattsburgh ends its' 7 game losing streak and improves to 4-10 overall, 2-4 in SUNYAC play. Next up for the Red Dragons tomorrow afternoon is Potsdam St. while the Cardinals look for the weekend sweep of the SUNYAC leaders as they take on 2nd place New Paltz.
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Post by: jdex on January 16, 2009, 10:26:31 PM

Nazareth 80, Geneseo 74
Potsdam 61, New Paltz 58
Oswego 69, Fredonia 67
Buffalo St. 73, Morrisville 46
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Post by: jdex on January 16, 2009, 10:49:59 PM

Potsdam wins on D. Brown 3-pter at 0:03. Squared at 27 thru 20', NP takes 9 pt lead midway into final period. Bears get edge at 3:57 on T. Kelso hoop. Tied at 0:20. Brown 17 pts(7x18fg); Kelso 14 pts, 10 rebs. NP gets 16 pts from H. Wichard. Hawks without Anderson

Geneseo falls and next gets Rochester -- 71-66 victim of SJF. Gens down 34-22 at half and rally within 75-72 at 0:32. S. Morton 23 pts, 7 rebs, 5 assts, 2 blks; K. Stevens 16 pts. Naz 25x45fg, 21x23ft

Buffalo St. romps as A. Speed hits 19 pts plus 8 rebs. Bengals 38-19 at half

Oswego prevails. Takes 33-28 lead at half and up throughout final frame although tied quickly past the break. Fredonia within point at 2:19 and gets trey at 0:02 from K. Saunders. Freds with 49-34 reb gap. T. Downing 24 pts(7x14fg) for Lakers. J. Bryant 18 pts in loss
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Post by: magicman on January 16, 2009, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 16, 2009, 10:26:31 PM

Nazareth 80, Geneseo 74
Potsdam 61, New Paltz 58
Oswego 69, Fredonia 67
Buffalo St. 73, Morrisville 46

jdex,

Those scores along with the Plattsburgh-Oneonta score certainly tightened up the conference. Could be more of the same tomorrow night. Possibility that the Lakers could be all alone in 1st after this weekend.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2009, 12:10:32 PM

Yeah, parity has come ...... but mediocre parity at best. Looks like you get the Paltz and Oneontas out of their gyms and they join the pack. And, yes, Oswego sure looks like certain contender to thee, along with Geneseo. Fredonia could be right there, too, and Potsdam (?).

As for my Cortlands .....ugh!!!! Not a very athletic team .....doesn't shoot well either from field or ft stripe. Suspect ballhandling. Anything else? Methinks Span prefers smaller team. Wow, a team that's too big, or at least that's its strength. Lewis now coming off bench. Got 9' yesterday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 17, 2009, 12:30:12 PM
Noted NP Hawks also without Taylor.  Injuries ? Academics?  NP scored some impressive early conference wins, then travel north without their top two scorers?

Think the 'yac is wide open and will come down to the wire.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
Plattsburgh St. downs New Paltz 76-62.

Buffalo St tops Oswego St 92-85.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2009, 06:46:26 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh-New Paltz game played at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. Both teams started slowly with back and forth play before Plattsburgh opened up an 8 pt lead 21-13 at 9:46 of the 1st half. New Paltz came back to tie it at 24 with 5:04 left only to see the Cards open up a 7 pt lead at the 1:40 mark 33-26. Hawks fought back to close to within 2 at the break 33-31. 1st 4 mins. of the 2nd half saw 6 ties and 6 lead changes. With the score tied at 43 the Cardinals led by Errol Daniyan, and Chris Ruiz went on a 17-2 run over the next 4:30 to lead 60-45 with 11:34 remaining. Cards led by as much as 19 at 71-52 before Curle emptied the bench.
Plattsburgh was led by the game's leading scorer Daniyan with a huge double- double of 26pts and 15 boards. R. J. Ponesse added 17 pts and 6 rebs. while Ruiz held to 2 pts in the 1st period broke loose for 11 in the 2nd half to finish with 13 points. New Paltz placed 4 guys in double figures led by Matt Hauser with 17, Lee Bertram with 15, Harris Wichard with 14 and Connor Cornine added 13. Once again the Hawks played without their top 2 scorers as Shereef Taylor and Jayquan Anderson both absent. 
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Post by: jdex on January 17, 2009, 10:30:58 PM

Oneonta whips Potsdam 88-80 behind 36x56fg accuracy. Ahead 44-39 at the break. Pdam comes from double digit deficit to close to four at 2:56. RDragons R. Morin 22 pts. Four others with 10 plus. Bears D. Brown 21 pts(12x16fg, 6x7 3s) in 37'

Brockport over Keuka 70-57. Eagles 37-26 midway. B. Brooks 11 pts, 10 rebs; J. Johnson 11 pts; E. Kays 10 pts

Geneseo falls 81-63 to Rochester. Jackets up 39-29 at break and never challenged thereafter. Gens S. Morton 20 pts, 6 rebs; J. Howe 19 pts(7x11fg)

Buffalo St led by A. Speed 23 pts, 13 rebs; G. Carr 21 pts. All five starters in double figure scoring as are all Oswego starters. BS 38x74fg. Lakers S. Francois 27 pts(11x21fg), 11 rebs. OSt 32x78fg, 9x25 3s

Fredonia over Morrisville 76-60 although trailing 48-37 with 11:31 left. Freds ahead 28-26 at half. K. Saunders 18 pts, 7 rebs; W. Davis 14 pts. Mville's E. Wilson 15 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2009, 12:36:21 AM
Quote from: jdex on January 17, 2009, 10:30:58 PM

Oneonta whips Potsdam 88-80 behind 36x56fg accuracy. Ahead 44-39 at the break. Pdam comes from double digit deficit to close to four at 2:56. RDragons R. Morin 22 pts. Four others with 10 plus. Bears D. Brown 21 pts(12x16fg, 6x7 3s) in 37'

Say it ain't so jdex!
Went to D3Hoops scoreboard around 8:30 this evening to see that Potsdam had beaten Oneonta 88-80. Also showed that score on both D3 school info pages and on the D3 Hoops SUNYAC page. Showed 4 teams tied for 1st with a 4-2 record. Thought, great, the Bears got a share of the lead. Left the house and came home around 11:30 to discover your post with the real scores and stats. Turns out 1st place was only an illusion. Oh well it felt good for a few hours. Oswego's chances for a 1st place share turned out to be an illusion also thanks to Buff St. When the Bengals started out 0-6(0-2conf) I don't think many figured they would be in the hunt. Nice turnaround for them, but  they still haven't won on the road yet. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on January 18, 2009, 10:10:53 PM
Not only is NP missing their top two scorers in Taylor and Anderson.  I was looking at the stats and they are also missing Jenkins who was playing 18 minutes a game for them and looked to be one of the better shooters off the bench.  I havent seen all the teams in the conference but after watching the geneseo game i thought the hawks had a chance of winning the league. I think the league is up for grabs.  Its not how you start but how you finish.  To bad for the hawks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2009, 07:27:46 AM
New Paltz Coach stated Taylor, Anderson, and Jenkins, all freshmen, are most likely out for the rest of the semester due to academic ineligibility. That's almost 36 ppg and 14 rebounds per game the Hawks will need to replace. Probably too much to overcome for the Hawks to remain in contention. With 9 conference games left and 5 of them on the road,  they will be lucky to go 3-6 in that stretch.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on January 19, 2009, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 18, 2009, 12:36:21 AM
Quote from: jdex on January 17, 2009, 10:30:58 PM

Oneonta whips Potsdam 88-80 behind 36x56fg accuracy. Ahead 44-39 at the break. Pdam comes from double digit deficit to close to four at 2:56. RDragons R. Morin 22 pts. Four others with 10 plus. Bears D. Brown 21 pts(12x16fg, 6x7 3s) in 37'

Say it ain't so jdex!
Went to D3Hoops scoreboard around 8:30 this evening to see that Potsdam had beaten Oneonta 88-80. Also showed that score on both D3 school info pages and on the D3 Hoops SUNYAC page. Showed 4 teams tied for 1st with a 4-2 record. Thought, great, the Bears got a share of the lead. Left the house and came home around 11:30 to discover your post with the real scores and stats. Turns out 1st place was only an illusion. Oh well it felt good for a few hours. Oswego's chances for a 1st place share turned out to be an illusion also thanks to Buff St. When the Bengals started out 0-6(0-2conf) I don't think many figured they would be in the hunt. Nice turnaround for them, but  they still haven't won on the road yet. 

Yes. If a school reports a score it appears everywhere. We have to believe schools are capable of reporting correctly.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2009, 03:03:02 AM
New Paltz drops a 70-50 decision to visiting Brooklyn on Monday afternoon. Hawks down by 8 32-24 at the break closed to within 3 at 49-46 with 7 mins left to play. Bridges go on a game ending 21-4 run to slam the door. New Paltz led by Connor Cornine with a double-double of 12 pts and 13 rebounds. Lee Betram had 12 pts and Harris Wichard added 10 pts and 9 boards.
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Post by: jdex on January 20, 2009, 11:54:08 AM

Only four teams with winning records  ........tells you something, eh?

Oneonta      5-1  10-5
Oswego       4-2    8-5
Fredonia      4-2   10-3
Geneseo      3-2     9-5
New Paltz    4-3     7-9
Buffalo St.    4-3     6-8
Potsdam      3-3     6-8
Plattsburgh  3-4     5-10
Cortland       2-3     5-8
Brockport      0-3     4-8
Morrisville     0-6     1-11

Tuesday card highlights Fredonia at Geneseo. Also, Bport at Oswego, Oneonta at Mville, UC at Potsdam




     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: zola on January 20, 2009, 09:59:13 PM
Utica shot 23 - 27 from the line in a second half 86 - 73 win at Potsdam. This Bears group has never committed to learn and play team defense. Who is the defensive floor leader? Each of theses Bears need to look at the statement defining Potsdam basketball on the athletics department home page.

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Post by: jdex on January 20, 2009, 10:33:51 PM

Oswego whips Brockport 85-59, going on 21-0 tear in first half and leading by as many as 39 later. K. Reuter 24 pts; S. Francois 13 pts, 11 rebs; C. Burridge 18 pts. Port's E. Kays 11 pts, 10 rebs; G. Williams 11 pts

Geneseo 57, Fredonia 50
Oneonta 74, Morrisville 45
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 20, 2009, 10:47:23 PM

Geneseo jumps to 30-15 halftime lead and in 41-19 control before Fredonia awakens. Pulls within 50-45 before Gens S. Morton sinks 7x8ft in final minute. Morton 19 pts(10x14ft); J. Howe 17 pts(8x10fg), 7 rebs. Knights 21x39fg, 23 trnvrs. Freds 14x45fg, 18x24ft, 21 trnvrs. B. Cooper 10 pts, K. Saunders 10 pts

Oneonta forges 31-20 lead at break and lands 31x58fg. R. Morin 21 pts(10x13fg), 9 rebs; M. Grimes 14 pts; B. Beckford 11 pts, 14 rebs. Morrisville 18x61fg. E. Wilson 17 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 21, 2009, 05:48:16 AM
Zola I agree We need a change to truely get the Potsdam Basketball program back to the glory days.  Its a joke to read that Potsdam Basketball is considered a basketball power.  We have only really has one great year since Jerry Welsh departed.  Was 04-05 a fluke?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2009, 11:25:12 PM

Morrisville prescribes 75-57 loss for  Albany Pharmacy. Mustangs stampede led by B. Eddy 16 pts(7x11fg), 11 rebs. Pillaging Mville seizes 35-21 lead at half and goes on to up record to 2-12 vs. 1-12 Albanys
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WNYOsports on January 23, 2009, 08:48:49 PM
Oswego State leads 39-30 at the half over Mo-ville.  Game can be heard by going to WNYOsports.com.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2009, 10:05:22 PM

Cortland 57, Fredonia 47
Oswego 90, Morrisville 60
Oneonta 78, Potsdam 65
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2009, 10:25:56 PM

Cortland gallops to 11-0 start and 33-11 bulge at half. Fredonia scoreless for first 6:52 and shoots 4x22fg over opening 20'. C. Niehoff tops RDragons with 16 pts(5x10fg, 4x7 3s) in 37'. P. Oliver 10 pts, 8 rebs; M. Lewis 10 rebs, 7 pts(3x5fg). Corts 22x49fg, 7x22 3s. Freds finish 14x47fg. W. Davis 15 pts(3x10fg, 8x9ft)

Oneonta out to 40-27 halftime edge on 17x35fg enroute to 28x60fg. R. Morin 19 pts(7x10fg); B. Beckford 17 pts(7x16fg), 13 rebs; B. Hooks 17 pts(5x8fg, 3x6 3s); S. Gillette 10 pts, 4 assts. Potsdam 23x65fg. A. Dike 15 pts(7x14fg), 3 assts, 2 stls; B. Graney 15 pts(5x16fg)

Oswego soars after 39-30 intermission edge. Lakers 19x37fg in second half for 33x70 (11x26 3s) game. T. Downing 18 pts(7x14fg, 4x7 3s), 6 assts, 4 stls; S. Francois 17 pts, 14 rebs; C. Burridge 16 pts, 5 blks; J. Lightbourne 11 pts in 14'. Morrisville 24x61fg. B. Eddy 14 pts(6x10fg)
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Post by: jdex on January 24, 2009, 10:22:34 PM

Brockport wins first conference game in 67-48 fashion at Fredonia. Eagles in 34-26 control at half and begin pullaway five minutes later. Shoot 21x42fg, 8x14 3s. E. Kays 17 pts(6x10fg), 7 rebs, 3 stls; M. Wilkes 16 pts(4x7fg, 4x6 3s); J. Clarke 12 pts(4x6fg). Freds shoot poorly (16x52fg) for second straight night. B. Cooper 12 pts(4x13fg); J. Bryant 11 pts(2x6fg)

Buffalo St. with big homecourt 71-55 stopping of Geneseo. Bengals by 34-25 at the break and quickly make second half hay. BS 26x46fg, 6x15 3s, 13x17ft. J. Tyndal 22 pts(10x18fg, 2x5 3s); J. Gray 19 pts(10x11ft), 5 assts; AJ White 17 pts(7x11fg), 4 stls. Geneseo 23x55fg, 6x14ft; 35-24 reb margin. S. Morton 21 pts(9x13fg, 2x4 3s), 6 rebs, 4 assts, 8 stls, 4pf in 38'; J. Howe 14 pts(6x16fg), 9 rebs. Knights with 24 trnvrs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: slickyquick on January 25, 2009, 06:40:11 PM
Quote from: bearnation on January 21, 2009, 05:48:16 AM
Zola I agree We need a change to truely get the Potsdam Basketball program back to the glory days.  Its a joke to read that Potsdam Basketball is considered a basketball power.  We have only really has one great year since Jerry Welsh departed.  Was 04-05 a fluke?

Didn't the Bears have a couple of decent years since the Jerry Welsh days. Mitchell had them win the regular season a while back and Dobbs took them to the NCAAs twice. I would say that going to the NCAA would be considered a great year. If I recall correctly, Potsdam isn't exactly a hotspot destination for tourism in the winter. It's tough bearing (no pun intended) the cold up there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2009, 08:44:39 PM

Cortland nipped 69-68 by Lebanon Valley Sunday afternoon at home. Layup with 0:06 left does in RDragons this time. They came from 12 down with 13' left, only to fall. In 34-30 hole at half to 8-9 LVers. Corts 26x53fg, 8x21 3s. C. Niehoff 20 pts(8x14fg, 3x5 3s) in 35'; B. Manning 10 pts(4x7fg, 2x3 3s) in 17'; M. Lewis 6 pts(2x3fg), 6 rebs, 4pf in 27'; J. Miolen 7 assts, 4 stls; W. Coston 6 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2009, 09:51:14 PM

Cortland over Brockport 72-64 behind C. Niehoff's 34 pts -- 21 in first half. CSt up 36-22 at half and leads by 16. Bport skipper G. Dunne tossed with pair of Ts late in opening period. Lots of fouls .....E. Kays, M. Wilkes both pf exits .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2009, 09:58:32 PM

Oswego 68, Oneonta 63
Potsdam 80, Plattsburgh 75
Buffalo St. 86, D'Youville 54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2009, 10:25:27 PM

Oswego overcomes sluggish start, though down just 26-24 at half despite 9x38fg. Oneonta ups margin to 9 with 12' left and maintains its balance till knotted at 4'. Laker spare J. Uribe then connects for 3s at 3:11 and 2:31 for six point advantage. Oneonta within two in final minute but held off by five T. Downing ft. Downing 20 pts(5x18fg, 2x5 3s, 8x10ft), 6 assts in 37'; C. Burridge 17 rebs, 8 pts in 35'; S. Francois 11 pts(4x14fg); Uribe 13pts (4x5 3s), 4pf in 17'; K. Reuter 6 pts(1x9fg). Lakers 21x69fg, 8x19 3s, 18x27ft, 50 rebs. RDragons 26x62fg, 0x6 3s, 11x17ft. M. Grimes 18 pts(9x15fg), 6 rebs; R. Morin 17 pts(7x15fg), 4pf in 31'; B. Beckford 10 rebs, 8 pts, 5pf in 31'

Buffalo St. rout gets 48-28 halftime jump. Bengals now 8-8 after 0-6 start. J. Gray 16 pts(7x10fg, 2x4 3s), 3 assts, 2 stls in 24'; G. Carr 14 pts(6x8fg); AJ White 12 pts, 7 rebs; J. Tyndal 4 assts. BS 37x69fg and 23x41 1st half; 51 rebs. D'Youville 7-11
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2009, 10:56:12 PM
Battle of the North Country tonight at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. Back and forth 1st half saw the Bears  come away with a 37-34 lead at the break. Plattsburgh tied it on their 1st possession but Potsdam went on a 9-2 run to take the lead 46-39 at the 17 min mark. Bears remain in front and stretch their advantage to 14, 60-46 with 11:30 to go. Cards would narrow the gap but Potsdam remained in front and again extended their margin to 14 at 71-59 with 3:39 left. Cardinals Josh Bruno enters the game and proceeds to hit 4 baskets(2 3's) to bring the Cardinals back and they take the lead at 72-71 with 1:07 to play. Foul shooting then determined the outcome as the Cardinals missed 4 straight ft's while the Bears were hitting nearly all of theirs. Bear's big men clearly outplayed the Cardinal bigs tonight. (33 pts to 15 and 19 boards to 9)  Potsdam was led by Brandon Siskavich with 17 pts(15 in the 2nd half). He was 6x11fgs,1x3 3's 4x4 ft, with 8 reb. Four other Bears were in double figures. Tom Kelso had 16 pts 7x13 fg, 2x2 ft, 11 boards, Alvin Dike had 13 pts, 2x6 fg, 9x10 ft, Damon Brown added 12 pts, 3x10 fg, 5x6 ft, and Brenden Graney chipped in with 12 pts on 5x10 fg 2x3 3's.
Plattsburgh was led by Chris Ruiz with 22 pts, 8x16 fgs 3x10 3's, Errol Daniyan with 11 pts 5x8 fgs, Shawn Gutzman with 10 and Josh Bruno with 10 pts in 2 min. 

Bears even their SUNYAC record to 4-4 and are next on the road Fri. at Cortland then home on Sat. against Oswego.

Cards fall to 3-5 SUNYAC and host  Buff St. on Fri. and Fredonia on Sat.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2009, 11:04:23 PM
Potsdam rides clutch A. Dike ft effort down the stretch. Bears have 37-34 edge thru first half and hike advantage to dozen midway through closing period. Plattsburgh comes back to grab 72-71 lead on J. Bruno trey at 1:13. Dike gets reversal from stripe at 0:59 and adds another point at 0:21 for 74-72 gap. Pburgh ft failures followed by Pdam's D. Brown free flips. Dike and Brown close it out at the liine in final 10 seconds. Bears B. Siskavich 17 pts(6x11fg), 5 rebs; Dike 13 pts(9x10ft); Brown 12 pts(3x10fg, 5x6ft); B. Graney 12 pts. Pdam 26x57fg, 6x12 3s, 22x26ft to Burgh's 29x62fg, 9x26 3s, 8x19ft. C. Ruiz 22 pts(8x16fg, 3x10 3s); E. Daniyan 11 pts(5x8 3s); S. Gutzman 10 pts; Bruno 10 pts(4x4fg, 2x2 3s); K. Brooks 6 assts

Cortland's Niehoff 10x17fg, 5x9 3s, 9x14ft, 7 rebs. P. Oliver 10 pts, 11 rebs. CSt late lift from fr. N. Sutedjo 8 pts(2x3 3s) in 10'. Fr. B. Manning also plays well in 27' stint. Goes 22x48fg, 21x36ft, 7x16 3s. Bport's Harris 18 pts (6x10fg); M. Wilkes 15 pts, 8 rebs. Eagles 22x61fg, 17x21ft. Climb within five on a couple of late occasions. CSt up to the task. No Parrish, Almeida for Port
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2009, 11:14:23 PM

Pardon the interruption, Magicman!! Twas your call up north. Ours lacked the .............and DOWN  the stretch they come (hoofbeats please) with Kelso finishing with 16 pts(7x13fg), 11 rebs!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2009, 12:54:26 AM
Quote from: jdex on January 27, 2009, 11:14:23 PM

Pardon the interruption, Magicman!! Twas your call up north. Ours lacked the .............and DOWN  the stretch they come (hoofbeats please) with Kelso finishing with 16 pts(7x13fg), 11 rebs!!!!

jdex.
I even wore my Saratoga hat to the game tonight. Could be why Kelso had such a good game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2009, 01:58:35 PM

As if things haven't exactly been going the Bears way, Potdam with nifty bit of upcoming scheduling. Tonight at Cortland, then heads home for Saturday date with Oswego!! At least a night game. Will probably layover tonight in Oswego. And, Lakers idle tonight

Also on Friday agenda: Buff St. at Pburgh, Freds at Mville, Paltz at Gens, One at Bport. Other Saturday gigs make some traveling sense, kinda: NP at Bport, BS at Mville, One at Gens, Freds at Pburgh

As for the chase .....

Oswego       7-2   11-5
Oneonta      7-2   12-6
Buff St          5-3    7-8
Geneseo      4-3   10-6
N Paltz         4-3     7-9
Cortland       4-3     7-9
Potsdam       4-4    7-10
Fredonia       4-5   10-6
Plattsburgh  3-5     5-11
Brockport      1-5    5-10
Morrisville      0-8    2-13





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2009, 10:05:19 PM

Buffalo St. 79, Plattsburgh 75
Fredonia 62, Morrisville 47
Cortland 76, Potsdam 50
Geneseo 70, New Paltz 60
Oneonta 71, Brockport 65
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2009, 10:53:04 PM

Oneonta overtakes Brockport with 1:27 remaining on B. Beckford hoop and 67-65 edge. Bport scoreless over final 3:27 after holding early 12 point second half margin. Eagles by 31-22 at half. OSt's M. Grimes 20 pts(10x14fg); R. Morin 18 pts (8x13fg); Beckford 14 pts, 12 rebs, 5 assts. RDragons 28x46fg. Bport 25x63fg. S. Harris 22 pts(9x14fg), 3 assts, 2 stls; M. Wilkes 12 pts, 4 assts; J. Johnson 7 rebs

Buffalo St. and Pburgh squared at 36 thru 20'. Host Cards seize 52-47 lead with 13:36 left. BS goes ahead 54-52 and expands to 64-53. Pburgh within 66-65 at 4:32 and 77-75 on J. Bruno trey. Bengal J. Gray ft pair clinch at 0:03. BS 15x21ft, Cards 4x9ft. J. Tyndal 22 pts(6x18fg, 3x11 3s), 5 assts for BS. Gray 14 pts(5x11fg); A. Speed 11 pts(5x7fg), 9 rebs. C. Ruiz 24 pts(10x20fg, 4x7 3s) for Cards. E. Daniyan 19 pts(8x15fg), 8 rebs, 2 stls. BS 29x59fg, Pburgh 33x74

Cortland whacks Pdam behind M. Lewis 17 pts(8x11fg), 10 rebs; W. Coston 14 pts(6x11fg), 5 assts; C. Niehoff 13 pts; J. Miolen 10 pts, 5 assts; C. Milke 9 rebs, 6 blks in 13'. Dragons 32x69fg and lead 35-19 at half. B. Graney 9 pts(4x9fg) leads Bears. B. Siskavich 8 pts(3x13fg); D. Brown 3 pts(1x7fg, 1x5 3s) in 23'; A. Dike 6 pts. Bears 20x64fg

Geneseo puts NP in 40-30 halftime deficit but Paltz within one midway into final period before four B. Simpson points help Gens pull away. S. Morton 31 pts(11x17fg, 4x6 3s), 9 rebs, 5 assts, 2 stls; Simpson 14 pts, 5 assts; J. Howe 14 pts, 9 rebs, 3 blks. Knights 28x57fg. NP 22x54fg. H. Wichard 14 pts, 7 rebs; M. Hauser 14 pts; L. Bertram 12 pts, 8 rebs; O. Agyrmang 6 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2009, 10:58:34 PM
Plattsburgh and Buffalo battled back and forth in the 1st half of tonight's game with neither team gaining much of an advantage. Cardinals had an early 6 pt lead with Bengals coming back to take a 5 pt lead with 7:00 left at 29-24. Cards came back to tie it up and they went into the break 36 all. Plattsburgh outscored the Bengals 16-11 over the 1st 6:30 of the 2nd to take a 52-47 edge only to have Buff. St go on a 17-2 run and establish the only double digit lead of the night at 64-54 with 8:00 remaining. Cards come back with an 11-2 run of their own to close to 66-65 at the 4:32 mark.  5 unanswered Bengal pts  pushed the lead to 6  and 2 quick 3 pointers by the Cards with under 30 secs to play cut the lead to 77-75. Bengals at the line with 7.5 secs left and miss both ft's but get the rebound and hit 2 ft's with 4 secs left for the final margin.
Buffalo St. was led by James Tyndall with 22 pts, Jamar Gray with 14 pts and Antonio Speed with 11.
Plattsburgh's Chris Ruiz was the game's high scorer with 24 pts and Errol Daniyan added 19.
Buffalo State improves to 6-3 in Conference play and 9-8 overall. Bengals have now won 9 of their last 11, including 6 of 7 in Conference play after starting the season 0-6. They currently hold down 3rd place in the SUNYAC. They are at Morrisville tomorrow night.
Cardinals fall to 3-6 in conference play 5-12 overall and are in danger of missing the playoffs for the 1st time since the 02-03 season. They host Fredonia on Sat. evening in a must win situation.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2009, 11:00:30 PM

Fredonia takes first lead at 26-24 on B. Cooper '3' and never looks back. Largest lead's final score at Mville. B. Morse 13 pts, 7 rebs; J. Bryant 11 pts; Cooper 7 rebs, 7 pts; W. Davis 5 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 31, 2009, 01:56:22 AM
Magic-you, Bear & I better start praying for some wins here as our beloved Cards, Bears, & Knights seem to be marching toward oblivion.  I would hate to see the only north country marching in a positive direction to be left to the Saints!!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: jdex on January 30, 2009, 01:58:35 PM

As if things haven't exactly been going the Bears way, Potdam with nifty bit of upcoming scheduling. Tonight at Cortland, then heads home for Saturday date with Oswego!! At least a night game. Will probably layover tonight in Oswego. And, Lakers idle tonight


Thanks dex +k, only in the 'yac do you get a 350 mile round trip in the snowbelt, followed by a Saturday night home game.  Men then get to face league leading Lakers, after running into a buzz saw at Cortland.  I think arrival time in Potsdam last night was 2-3 AM depending on how tough the going was on I-81.

Another winter of discontent in the 'dam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2009, 08:03:04 PM

Geneseo fells Oneonta 79-77 as Knights barge to 44-32 halftime lead and extend to 70-52 with 6:43 to go. OSt nearly comes all the way back, drawing within three in final minute and one at 0:11. Gens S. Morton 25 pts(7x15fg, 4x8 3s), 9 rebs, 4 assts in 40'; J. Howe 17 pts(8x10fg); M. Hoy 12 pts(3x3fg) in 24' of bench time; B. Simpson 11 pts. Knights 29x50fg, 6x13 3s, 15x28ft. Oneonta 33x64fg, 4x15 3s, 7x16ft). R. Morin 18 pts(9x16fg); B. Beckford 17 pts(8x12fg), 6 rebs; T. Talbot 10 pts; M. Lane 10 pts

Brockport hammers New Paltz 103-70 with 16x25 trey shooting (36x57fg). Eagles hit 21x28fg, 7x9 3s by half to take 55-38 command. M. Wilkes 18 pts(6x7fg, 4x5 3s) in 15'; J. Johnson 17 pts; G. Williams 15 pts; E. Kays 11 pts; J. Clark 10 pts in Bport game-best 21'; I. Mack 7 assts; J. Zenkel 6 assts. NP 23x46fg. L. Bertram 21 pts(9x10fg); M. Hauser 16 pts; H. Wichard 11 pts

Buffalo St. takes down Morrisville 66-54. Bengals in 34-22 halftime lead but only two points up at 9' mark. BS 22x52fg, 21x30ft. AJ White 16 pts(5x9fg), 7 rebs; G. Carr 14 pts(5x10fg), 6 rebs; J. Gray 13 pts(4x8fg), 4 assts; A. Speed 7 rebs, 4pf in 22'. Stangs E. Wilson 15 pts, 7 rebs; J. McCants 11 rebs, 9 pts. Mville 21x73fg, 5x12ft

Fredonia on verge of beating Plattsburgh
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2009, 08:09:50 PM

Fredonia by 69-60 over Plattsburgh, leading 38-15 at intermission. B. Morse 18 pts(8x11fg); J. Bryant 10 pts; K. Saunders 5 assts. Devils 20x40fg, 5x11 3s, 25x34ft. Pburgh's E. Daniyan 22 pts(9x13fg); C. Ruiz 7 pts(2x7fg), 5pf in 26'. Cards 23x50fg, 1x9 3s, 15x29ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2009, 09:18:57 PM
Slight correction jdex, Fredonia beat Plattsburgh 70-62. Not that it matters much.
Tale of two halves as Cards come back from horrific 15 pt 1st half to outscore Freds 47-32 in the 2nd. Blue Devils up 12-9 with 11:53 to play in the 1st and break the game open with finishing 26-6 run. Credit the Cardinals for coming out and playing hard the entire 2nd half to close the gap. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
Potsdam survives late night road trip home to take down Oswegp 75-66 and prevent the Lakers from taking over sole possession of 1st place. Much needed win for the Bears to stay in the hunt for a playoff berth.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2009, 10:15:12 PM
Updated SUNYAC standings through games of 1-31.

1  Oneonta 8-3   13-7
2  Oswego 7-3    11-6
2  Buff. St   7-3    9-8
4 Geneseo  6-3   12-6
5  Cortland  5-3   8-9
6  Fredonia  6-5  12-6
7  Potsdam  5-5  8-11
8  New Paltz 4-5   7-11
9  Brockport  2-6   6-11
10 Plattsburgh 3-7  5-13
11 Morrisville   0-10 2-15
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
Unbelievable!!! Guess here is that REAL Potsdam squad never did make the trip to Cortland for big setback on Friday .....Real Bears stayed home preparing for Oswego!!!! Who were those masqueraders in Cortland??

Yeah, Magic, we jumped the final gun on Fredonia/Pburgh score. And how about Buff St. ......six straight W's!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2009, 10:42:13 PM

Confirmed!! These Bears in Potsdam tonight were grizzlies .....not teddys. No Potsdamer scored in double figures Friday ......all starters did tonight. What a turnaround, including Saturday! Oswego by 13 with 7' left in first half. Potsdam by 38-36 at half on S. Clement '3'. And with 10:46 left in the game Bears led by 13. OSt twice within four in waning moments. B. Siskavich answers with trey once, and B. Graney points halt second rush at 1:12. Bears then stretch it out. Oswego 10x39 in 3s, 24x80fg as T. Downing goes 2x16fg, 2x11 3s for 6 pts. Pdam 26x63fg, 6x13 3s, 17x21ft as A. Dike 17 pts(6x12fg), 11 rebs; D. Brown 15 pts(5x10fg); Siskavich 14 pts(4x12fg), 12 rebs; T. Kelso 14 pts(6x13fg, 9 rebs; Graney 12 pts(4x9fg). Bears 46-35 reb edge. OSt gets C. Burridge 16 pts(7x17fg), 14 rebs; K. Reuter 14 pts(5x17fg); S. Francois in bench role for 12 pts(4x7fg) in 32'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2009, 10:49:32 PM
Ya gotta love the 'YAC.

Potsdam gets blown out last night, arrives home at 3 AM after a delightful trip through the Lake Ontario snow belt.

Oswego standout Tom Downing had a forgettable night, 2x16 FG, (2x11 3FG) 6 AST's but 5 turnovers

Oswego First Year Chad Burridge is following in brother Mat's footsteps with 16 pts & 14 rebounds.  He and Potsdam first year Tom Kelso (14pts, 9 rebounds, one thunder dunk) are sure to have some classic battles during the next few years.

Bears have a week off to regroup before Bear Pride night and televised (Time Warner sports) Men's & Women's games vs. Plattsburgh on Friday Feb 6th.

5 SUNYAC teams with three losses, so still anyone's regular season title to claim.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2009, 02:25:35 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 31, 2009, 01:56:22 AM
Magic-you, Bear & I better start praying for some wins here as our beloved Cards, Bears, & Knights seem to be marching toward oblivion.  I would hate to see the only north country marching in a positive direction to be left to the Saints!!!! ;D

with age,
I guess "thebear" prayed harder than you or I did last night as Potsdam stops Oswego while our clubs took it on the chin.  Of the 3 teams I think the Bears have the best chance to make the playoffs. I think they go no worse than 3-3 in their remaining 6 games which would give them a 6th or 7th seed in the SUNYAC tournament. They need to have a better record than Fredonia to get the 6th seed as Freds owns the tiebreaker over them. Blue Devils have tougher schedule down the stretch and if the Bears can go 4-2 I think the 6th seed is theirs. Don't think they can get higher than that but it's not out of the question as Cortland also faces a tough stretch with 8 conference games to play including 3 teams currently in front of them. And Bears do get to play Cortland on Feb 17th in Potsdam, but have to win that game to have any chance of overtaking the Red Dragons. Revenge also will be on Potsdam's agenda, to atone for the 76-50 pasting they got last night.
As we've found out in the SUNYAC this year there is no dominant team and from what I've seen, anyone of the current top 7 teams can win it all. Everyone is struggling on the road so the home court advantage is huge and will probably determine the winner.

I didn't think your Knights would be 2-5 after the 1st half of the league schedule. But as bad as that is you're still only a game out of the 4th and final playoff spot. Needless to say must win situations when you play Union and Hobart again.  With 5 of your final 7 games at home you need to go 4-1 at Alumni Gym and 1-1 on the road. Hobart has 5 road games left  and Union 4 so they both have a real possibility of going 3-4 in the 2nd round robin and both ending up at 6-8 or worse. I think 7-7 will cop the 4th playoff spot. I'll be rooting for you.

As for my Cardinals nothing short of a miracle is needed after the disasterous results of this past weekend. Even with a weekend sweep our chances weren't great as we finish up with 5 of 6 on the road. Having 1 road win all year and that being non-conference didn't exactly have me feeling good about our chances. But 2 wins this weekend would have gotten us to 5-5 and maybe our young players would start playing with a bit more confidence. Now instead we're 3-7 and unless we go at least 3-3 down the stretch(which would give us a 6-10 conf. record) I don't see the playoffs in our future. Cardinals are currently in 10th place so the 2 teams we have to climb over are New Paltz and Brockport. We do get to play winless Morrisville twice and end the season at New Paltz, who hasn't won a game since they lost 3 of their top players for the season, 5 games ago. New Paltz currently with a 4-5 record will be hard pressed to win 3 of their final 7 games as they have to face the top teams plus Oneonta twice. Brockport with only 2 conference wins would have to go 5-3 in their final 8 games to beat out the Cards as we own the head to head tiebreaker over them. So I guess Plattsburgh is still alive but barely.                  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 03, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
Actually, I had pretty much given up the ghost.  After the odoriferous performance at Cortland on Friday, the five hour trip in the snowstorm to arrive in Potsdam at 3AM, and playing badly enough to be behind 13 in 13 minutes on Saturday, I was convinced that you could stick a fork in the Bears and was ready to call it a night and head home.

Then the Maroon & Grey suddenly came to life, went on a 21-6 run to end the half, and extended, and answered every Oswego surge with stops at the right time.  Still didn't understand the incessant chucking by the Lakers.  With their size and athleticism, letting the guards bomb away doesn't seem to be a sound strategy.

Potsdam does catch a break in the schedule, with 4 of their 6 remaining games against the bottom four teams.  Plattsburgh is Friday night on Bear Pride night, with a regionally televised contest.  Bears also  have Cortland at home on Senior night, so there will be some pride involved, and a tough road swing vs. 'port & Geneseo, plus Home vs. Morrisville, and end the season with a singleton at New Paltz.

With four teams (NP sans top three scorers, dangerous 'port & Plattsburgh, plus Morrisville) with really poor W-L,   the conference is going to be scrambled eggs, there will be a whole bunch of teams (5,6,7) with 10-6 and 9-7 records, and with an unbalanced schedule, the tiebreakers kinda suck, e.g. Oswego only plays Potsdam once, at Potsdam, Buff St & Fredonia only play Potsdam once, but at home...

Lets face it, this is a one bid conference this year.  Any of the top 8 teams can beat anyone else, at home or on the road.  The regular season champion, assuming it makes it past round 1, will have the home court advantage and sleep in their own beds. 

February makes me shiver! & alas, I won't be at the SUNYAC this year as I have to go south for my Dad's memorial service on 2/27.







Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 03, 2009, 09:51:33 PM

Cortland buries New Paltz 73-44
Geneseo shades Brockport 62-61
Plattsburgh crushes Morrisville 80-47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 03, 2009, 10:02:49 PM

Fredonia halts streaking Buffalo St. 61-58
Oswego sees 11 pt. halftime lead disappear in 69-68 loss at Utica whose J. Patterson bucket at 0:05 decides it
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2009, 10:09:16 PM
Plattsburgh up by double digits early on, increases lead to 38-20 at the break. Extend lead to 31 with 6:00 left. Cardinals had bench players in from 10 min mark on. Brad Mader leads 4 players in double figures with 18 pts. Chris Ruiz adds 17, Josh Bruno with 11 and Errol Daniyan chips in with 10. Morrisville led by Elonzo Wilson with 11.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 03, 2009, 10:32:44 PM

Geneseo prevails on M. Hoy layin in closing seconds after leading nearly entire game. Gens by as many as 12 in first half which ends with Knights holding 28-26 edge. Brockport takes point lead at 9:55 but Knights retake upper hand till tied at 1:35 on M. Wilkes '3'. Gens back to fore and up 60-59 on J. Howe ft at 0:39. Misses second toss. Bport's B. Brooks connects on two ft for lead at 0:35. Gens S. Morton misses ft pair but bailed out by Hoy. Morton 16 pts(6x15fg, 2x7 3s), 5 rebs, 6 assts, 3 stls in 40'; Howe 16 pts(4x6fg, 8x12ft), 9 rebs; K. Stevens 12 pts(5x8fg, 2x5 3s), 10 rebs). Knights 21x44fg, 16x25ft. Bport's Wilkes 26 pts(8x17fg, 5x12 3s), 3 stls; E. Kays 10 pts, 8 rebs; I. Mack 7 assts

Cortland coasts. Builds 36-16 lead at half and gets overall squared at 9-9. Eleven RDragons figure in points. W. Coston 14 pts(5x8fg, 2x4 3s), 4 assts in 27'; S. Manning 12 pts(5x7fg, 2x4 3s); C. Niehoff 9 pts, 7 rebs; R. Evans 7 rebs. CSt 29x61fg. Bench outscores NP 33-0. Just 8 trnvrs after season-low 4 vs. Pdam. NP 16x57fg, 2x21 3s. C. Cornine 16 pts(6x15fg) in 37'; H. Wichard 13 pts, M. Hauser 12 pts. No L. Bertram

Oswego has UC down 39-28 at half. Lakers S. Francois hits two ft for late edge .....J. Patterson layup UC winner at 0:05. Francois 19 pts(7x13fg), 9 rebs; T. Downing 15 pts(5x10fg, 3x6 3s), 7 assts, 3 stls in 40'; K. Reuter 14 pts(5x16fg); C. Brundige 11 rebs. UC's D. Herrings 12 pts, 5 assts; AJ Trahms 11 pts; J. Smith 10 pts. OSt 23x62fg, 8x23 3s, 14x15ft, outboarded 41-34
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2009, 10:40:12 PM
Updated SUNYAC standings through games of 2-3-09

1.   Oneonta 8-3   13-7
2.   Geneseo 7-3   13-6
2.   Oswego 7-3    11-7
4.   Cortland 6-3    9-9
5.   Buff. St   7-4    10-9
6.   Fredonia 7-5    13-6
7.   Potsdam  5-5  8-11
8.   New Paltz 4-6   7-12
9.   Plattsburgh 4-7  6-13
10. Brockport  2-7   6-12
11. Morrisville 0-11  2-16
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 03, 2009, 11:51:08 PM

Fredonia chased Buffalo St. a good deal. Latter led 30-28 at half. Game's 12th and final tie came with 2:02 left on Freds J. Bryant ft. Second toss gave Devils lead for keeps. BS 59-57 approach in closing moments and AJ White went make-miss at ft line. Bryant finished scoring on ft's. Freds K. Mitchell 15 pts(7x8fg) in 29'; Bryant 13 pts(4x8fg), 5 rebs, 4pf in 24'; B. Cooper 11 pts, 5 rebs. Winners 26x53fg, 2x11 3s, 7x10ft. Bengal J. Gray 19 pts(6x10fg), 5 rebs, 2 assts, 2 stls; A. Speed 8 rebs; White 5 assts, 3 stls. BS 18x47fg, 3x10 3s, 19x25ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 05, 2009, 03:24:54 PM
My take on how this season is evolving.

Dave

Oswego   (7-3)
Balance of Schedule at Home, Key games hosting Cortland, Geneseo, Oneonta, Buffalo St. Will have a large part in determining regular season champion

Oneonta   (8-3)
Three of remaining 5 games vs. NP & Morrisville.  Wins @ Cortland & Oswego could lock up #1 spot

Geneseo   (7-3)
Tough road games at Oswego,  Fredonia,  Brockport, Has already lost to Potsdam

Buffalo St.   (7-4)
New Paltz is only non-contender in schedule.  Loss to Fredonia slowed momentum.
Games @ Brockport, Oswego, vs. Cortland Fredonia will influence top seed

Fredonia   (7-5)
Tough remaining schedule, no weak links, will definitely influence
who gets top 4 seeds.  Along with Medici, Moore is contender for coach of the year

Potsdam   (5-5)
Most inconsistent team in the conference.  Could sweep the remaining games
or could lose 5 of 6.  Which Potsdam team will show up?  The one that beat Geneseo & Oswego or the one that lost by 26 to Cortland

Cortland   (6-3)
Brutal remaining schedule.  No sure win.  Facing the top of the conference
and 5 of 7 remaining on the road.  Could be anywhere from 12-4 to 8-8

Brockport   (2-7)
Has underachieved, but has 6 of last 7 at home, and road game at Morrisville.
Must win vs. Plattsburgh to neutralize tiebreaker.  This team has way too much talent to miss the playoffs.

Plattsburgh   (4-7)
Young team, very talented, freshmen and sophomores have a full season under their belts All of remaining schedule on the road.  Has been competitive consistently, but can't    finish off opponents.  Wins vs. Morrisville, NP & Brockport should secure #8 seed.

New Paltz   (4-6)
Has lost 5 in a row, lost 3 top players to academics, enough talent to upset someone but hasn't been competitive in last two contests

Morrisville   (0-11)
Lost by 33 in their last outing to the 9th place team. 0-16 likely.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2009, 05:55:38 PM
Just a reminder that Oneonta coach Vince Medici will be one of our guests on Hoopsville tonight. The show airs from 6-8 ET and he will be in the second hour, along with our East Region reporter, J.C. DeLass.

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/tunein.php
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2009, 07:50:31 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 05, 2009, 03:24:54 PM
My take on how this season is evolving.

Dave

Oneonta   (8-3)
Three of remaining 5 games vs. NP & Morrisville.  Wins @ Cortland & Oswego could lock up #1 spot

Geneseo   (7-3)
Tough road games at Oswego,  Fredonia,  Brockport, Has already lost to Potsdam

Buffalo St.   (7-4)
New Paltz is only non-contender in schedule.  Loss to Fredonia slowed momentum.
Games @ Brockport, Oswego, vs. Cortland Fredonia will influence top seed

Fredonia   (7-5)
Tough remaining schedule, no weak links, will definitely influence
who gets top 4 seeds.  Along with Medici, Moore is contender for coach of the year

Potsdam   (5-5)
Most inconsistent team in the conference.  Could sweep the remaining games
or could lose 5 of 6.  Which Potsdam team will show up?  The one that beat Geneseo & Oswego or the one that lost by 26 to Cortland

Cortland   (6-3)
Brutal remaining schedule.  No sure win.  Facing the top of the conference
and 5 of 7 remaining on the road.  Could be anywhere from 12-4 to 8-8

Brockport   (2-7)
Has underachieved, but has 6 of last 7 at home, and road game at Morrisville.
Must win vs. Plattsburgh to neutralize tiebreaker.  This team has way too much talent to miss the playoffs.

Plattsburgh   (4-7)
Young team, very talented, freshmen and sophomores have a full season under their belts All of remaining schedule on the road.  Has been competitive consistently, but can't    finish off opponents.  Wins vs. Morrisville, NP & Brockport should secure #8 seed.

New Paltz   (4-6)
Has lost 5 in a row, lost 3 top players to academics, enough talent to upset someone but hasn't been competitive in last two contests

Morrisville   (0-11)
Lost by 33 in their last outing to the 9th place team. 0-16 likely.


Bear,

I guess that big win over Oswego last week made you forget about the Lakers. ;) Being 1 of the 4 teams with only 3 losses they have a slight schedule advantage due to the fact they get to play the other 3 loss teams at home. They actually play 5 of their final 6 games at home. However, Oneonta, as you mentioned really has the easiest finish. I think the top spot comes down to that Oswego-Oneonta matchup on Feb. 14th in Oswego.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 05, 2009, 08:23:39 PM
OPERATOR ERROR

Actually I think the Laker's are odds on favorites to win the top spot.  As magic points out, the games vs. Oneonta will decide a lot.

When I did a cut and paste, I guess I didn't select the lakers.

My apologies

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2009, 10:17:59 PM
Another barnburner at Jerry Welsh gymnasium tonight in Potsdam as Potsdam St. comes from behind to beat Plattsburgh St. 64-60. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 06, 2009, 10:37:16 PM

Oswego over Cortland 84-76. Lakers overcome four point CSt lead in second half. K. Reuter 29 pts; J. Francois 10 pts, 10 rebs; T. Downing 18 pts; C. Burridge 18 pts. Cortland led by C. Niehoff 26 pts(8x11fg); P. Oliver 18 pts; W. Coston 12 pts

Brockport burns Fredonia 87-67, shaking free from 34-31 halftime edge. Take charge in final 10 minutes and leads by 23. Eagles 29x58fg, 13x29 3s, 16x19ft. J. Clarke 16 pts, 5 rebs; M. Wilkes 16 pts, 5 rebs, 4 stls; J. Johnson 14 pts(3x4 3s). Freds J. Bryant 20 pts(10x15fg), 6 rebs; W. Davis 11 pts; K. Saunders 11 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
Potsdam trails the entire game and finally grabs the lead at 58-56 with 3:16 to play. Extend lead to 60-56 with 2:47 left and close out the Cards at the free throw line. Plattsburgh was ahead at the half 39-31 and maintained that lead through much of the 2nd period and was still up 54-46 with less than 9 mins. to play. Bears then go on 15-2 run over the next 7 minutes to gain their largest lead at 61-56, before 64-60 final. Free throws once again proved to be the difference, just as they were 10 days ago when the Bears won 80-75. Tonight Potsdam was 18x30 from the line while the Cardinals were only 8x16. Bears shot 20x55 fgs, while Cards were 24x53.  Potsdam was led by Damon Brown with 22 pts including 4 3's and Brandon Siskavich with 13 pts and 11 rebounds. Alvin Dike chipped in with 11 pts and was 7x8 from the free throw line. Cardinals Chris Ruiz led all scorers with 24 points on 10x16 shooting with 2 3's. Danny Tangney was only other Cardinal in double figures with 10 pts.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 07, 2009, 03:37:30 AM
The most telling stat to me was Plattsburgh scores 39 in the first half, 21 in the second.  Been a long time since the Bears held anyone to 21 points in a half.  Plattsburgh went deadly cold from outside 0-6 in second half, and 5-12 from the FT line

Fouls were Cards 25, Bears 15, but I made a comment to a ref friend that I sit with, that it seemed "They were letting them play"  Bodies were flying everywhere.  Daniyan and Thomas had 9 fouls at the PF position playing 39 minutes between them, but they both had trouble with Sikavich's size, and Dike's strength on the O Boards, several over the backs and hacks on O rebounds.

Chris Ruiz is silky smooth, already one of the elite players in the SUNYAC, and a potential D-III All American if he continues to improve (scary thought). 

Cards were handed a interesting schedule  typical of the SUNYAC.  Men's & Women's teams, leaving Potsdam at 11 PM have to drive to Syracuse, eta 1:45 AM, stay overnite, and play at Cortland with 4PM start for the women, and 6 PM for the men, then a lovely 300+ mile bus trip back to Cortland, touring most of Central & Northern, NY.

No one in the Empire 8 has to put up with this kind of travel.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2009, 04:04:23 AM
Updated SUNYAC standings through games of 2-6-09

1.   Oneonta 8-3   13-7
1.   Oswego 8-3    12-7
3.   Geneseo 7-3   13-6
4.   Buff. St   7-4    10-9
5.   Cortland 6-4    9-10
6.   Potsdam  6-5   9-11
7.   Fredonia 7-6    13-7
8.   New Paltz 4-6   7-12
9.   Plattsburgh 4-8  6-14
10. Brockport  3-7   7-12
11. Morrisville 0-11  2-16

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 07, 2009, 05:48:12 PM

Oneonta deals New Paltz 71-61 loss, Hawks seventh straight. OSt 38-33 at half. Pulls 24x45fg trigger, 5x9 3s, 18x24ft. M. Grimes 23 pts(7x9fg, 9x11ft), 10 rebs in 30'; R. Morin 12 pts; B. Hooks 11 pts; M. Lane 10 pts; T. Talbot 7 assts. No B. Beckford. NP 26x58fg. H. Wichard 19 pts(8x12fg, 3x5 3s); L. Bertram 16 pts(6x11fg); O. Agyemang 7 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2009, 07:57:48 PM
Plattsburgh loses another one on the road at Cortland, 74-66.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 07, 2009, 08:07:18 PM

Cortland 74, Plattsburgh 66. RDragons big margin early and 46-35 at half. Stretch to nearly 20 before 19-4 Pburgh run reduces edge to three. CSt's C. Niehoff 24 pts; W. Coston 12 pts; M. Lewis 10 pts, 9 rebs; Paul Oliver 10 pts. In 27x59fg mode, 8x20 3s. E. Daniyan 21 pts, 11 rebs; C. Ruiz 13 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 07, 2009, 10:34:11 PM

Oswego by 78-75 in a tight one over Brockport. Bport 41-37 at half. OSt catches 'em with 15:17 left. Close thereafter with Lakers maintaining edge. Eagle E. Kays hoop at 0:39 makes it 76-75. Laker T. Downing bucket at 0:08. K. Reuter 21 pts(4x12fg, 11x13ft); Downing 18 pts(6x14fg, 2x5 3s), 4pf in 27'; C. Monaghan 17 pts(5x7fg, 4x5 3s) in 17'; S. Francois 11 pts(5x7fg), 7 rebs. Lakers 26x59fg, 17x21ft, 9x22 3s. Bport's Kays 18 pts(6x14fg), 7 rebs; J. Clarke 12 pts(5x6fg); M. Wilkes 12 pts; I. Mack 11 pts. Hit 25x56fg, 23x35ft, 2x12 3s

Geneseo topples Morrisville 71-61. Knights in 33-28 upper half hand. S. Morton 25 pts(8x19fg), 9x9ft, 14 rebs, 7 assts; B. Simpson 20 pts(8x13fg); M. Hoy 13 pts(4x6fg, 3x5 3s. Gens 25x58fg. Stangs E. Wilson 15 pts; A. VanDyke 15 pts; K. Gordon 10 pts; J. McCants 9 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2009, 11:50:01 PM
Updated SUNYAC standings through games of 2-7-09

1.   Oneonta 9-3   14-7
1.   Oswego 9-3    13-7
3.   Geneseo 8-3   14-6
4.   Buff. St   7-4    10-9
4.   Cortland 7-4    10-10
6.   Potsdam  6-5   9-11
7.   Fredonia 7-6    13-7
8.   New Paltz 4-7   7-13
9.   Plattsburgh 4-9  6-15
10. Brockport  3-8   7-13
11. Morrisville 0-12  2-17

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bball12 on February 08, 2009, 12:31:47 PM
I was at the oneonta-new paltz game.  I couldnt believe that oneonta was the first place team in the conference.  They dont play very hard.  Grimes is he only one that plays with energy.  I dont think they are overly talented.  But they win so what can you say.  I would be surprised if they win the conference though.  New Paltz just doesnt have the depth.  The starting five are solid but they just dont have enough anymore losing the two top scorers and one of the top bench players.  I think oswego wil take the conference but it is up for grabs.  YOu cant count anybody out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2009, 03:54:47 PM

As we mentioned ....Oneonta minus B. Beckford for NP for whatever reason. A double-double performer
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 08, 2009, 07:40:55 PM
It's been a long, hard season for my beloved Eagles--They have to catch fire these final 5 games and sneak into the SUNYAC playoffs!!! Anything can happen if they can just get over the top. Kays, Wilkes,Mack, Harris and the boys need to bring it all together and finish strong. I have confidence in them. They are hardworkers and they will be there at the end. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2009, 09:33:01 PM

Cortland kayoes Oneonta 72-64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2009, 09:41:07 PM
Potsdam downs visiting Morrisville 65-51.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2009, 09:53:52 PM

Geneseo 91, Oswego 61
Buffalo St. 74, Brockport 65
Houghton 63, Fredonia 57
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2009, 10:22:26 PM

Geneseo goes to head of the class with splurge at Oswego. Gens 44-30 at half. S. Morton 21 pts, 6 assts, 2 blks; B. Simpson 20 pts, 18 rebs

Cortland and Oneonta in nip and tuck affair in final regular season home date for CSt. Pulls away in waning moments. All hands aboard for most part. W. Coston 15 pts(6x10fg), 6 assts, 5 stls; J. Miolen 12 pts; P. Oliver 12 pts, 8 rebs; R. Evans 12 pts(3x5fg, 2x2 3s); M. Lewis 10 pts, 7 rebs; C. Niehoff 5 pts(1x14fg) in 38'. OSt's M. Lane 17 pts(8x15fg); M. Grimes 11 pts, 8 rebs; B. Beckford 11 pts, 8 rebs; S. Gillette 10 pts

Buffalo St. up 39-36 at half in Bport. Bengals by 67-65 at 2:49. A. Speed 26 pts(9x16fg), 16 rebs; J. Gray 13 pts; A. Samedi 12 pts. BS 26x52fg, 20x30ft, 2x5 3s. Bport's M. Wilkes 15 pts; J. Clarke 11 pts; S. Harris 10 pts; I. Mack 5 assts. Hits 23x67fg, 5x19 3s, 14x20ft

Potsdam  downs Morrisville as T. Kelso goes for 16 pts(8x9fg), 9 rebs; A. Dike 14 pts; starter S. Schwartz 12 pts(4x9 3s) in 28'; S. Clement 10 pts(4x6fg, 2x4 3s); D. Brown 5 assts, 2 pts(1x5fg) in 26'. No Siskavich. Mville's E. Wilson 14 pts

Fredonia falls to 8-13 Houghton, trailing 31-25 at half. Freds 19x52fg to Hough's 15x28fg but 26x38ft to Devils 13x15ft. J. Bryant 16 pts(6x8fg), 5pf in 38'; W. Davis 11 pts; K. Saunders 11 pts

Gens 9-3, One 9-4, Osw 9-4, Corts 8-4, BS 8-4, Pdam 7-5, Freds 7-6, NP 4-7, Platts 4-9, Bport 3-9, Mville 0-13

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2009, 12:55:20 AM
Potsdam-Morrisville game had an interesting statistic. Only 1 player from each team went to the free throw line in the entire game. Morrisville's J. McCants was 1 of 2 and Potsdam's A. Dike was 4 of 8. Total fouls called in the game were 7 against the Mustangs and 6 against the Bears. I guess the refs let em play. Don't think I've ever seen a game where only 2 players out of 20 had a ft attempt.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 11, 2009, 02:11:39 AM
Refs did let them play, only called obvious stuff.  Game was over by 9:20. refreshing.   One of crew from magicman's home turf.

Siskavich & Lothridge both mobile, but on the bench in sweats.  Dobbs inserted Schwartz to replace Siskavich outisde threat & he responded with 4 1st half treys before cooling down.  Clement picked up the second half load from outside.

D. Brown obviously ailing, spent much time on the bench in heavy sweats with a towel on his head.  His one basket was a breakway steal and thunderous dunk in transition.

Potsdam up by 12 in the first half before M'ville run cut to 4.  Bears extended to +20 in the second half before Dobbs emptied what passed for the bench with 7' left.

Bears have won three straight heading into Rochester trip this weekend. 

Geneseo pounding of Oswego a wakeup call, particularly coming at Laker Hall.  Knights may be peaking at just the right time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2009, 02:40:26 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 11, 2009, 02:11:39 AM
Refs did let them play, only called obvious stuff.  Game was over by 9:20. refreshing.   One of crew from magicman's home turf.

That would explain the speed of the game and let em play theme. T. L.(I'm guessing) had to drive back to the Burgh ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2009, 10:02:29 PM

Brockport hammers Potsdam 85-53. M. Wilkes 23 pts; J. Johnson 11 pts; A. Marchant 11 pts. Pdam's D. Brown 18 pts; B. Siskavich 10 pts; S. Clement 10 pts

Buffalo St. gets past Cortland 76-66. Corts by 36-33 at half. Bengals quick second half reversal. Three point game at 0:39. AJ White points allow BS breathing room. J. Gray 18 pts(7x14fg); A. Speed 11 pts, 12 rebs; J. Tyndal 17 pts(7x13fg); White 15 pts(4x5fg, 7x10ft). BS 27x54fg, 21x32ft. CSt 26x65fg. C. Niehoff 16 pts(6x18fg); J. Miolen 15 pts(5x9fg); P. Oliver 14 pts(7x13g); M. Lewis 11 rebs

Oneonta belts Morrisville 75-40. Leads 36-12 at half. R. Morin 21 pts(9x12fg) in 23'. Twelve RDragons score. Go 31x62fg. Mville 13x58fg. K. Gordon 9 pts(3x11fg); E. Wilson 9 pts(2x10fg). Stangs 1x20 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2009, 10:30:26 PM

Geneseo downs Plattsburgh 78-73. Knights in 36-30 halftime edge. Burgh within one at 1:31. Free throws by S. Morton lead to clinch. Gens 28x52fg. K. Stevens 19 pts(7x10fg, 3x5 3s), 8 rebs; J. Blair 14 pts(6x9fg); Morton 12 pts(3x8fg), 4 assts, 4 stls, 4pf in 29'; B. Simpspn 11 pts, 6 assts; J. Howe 12 pts. Cards C. Ruiz 22 pts(7x17fg), 5 stls; B. Mader 20 pts(8x11fg); E. Daniyan 13 pts, 9 rebs. Pburgh 25x60fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2009, 11:08:12 PM

Oswego sinks New Paltz 66-62. T. Downing nets 28 pts(4x7 3s). NP's C. Cornine 23 pts, 9 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 14, 2009, 03:16:46 PM
Magic--Give me the scenario for the Eagles to make the SUNYAC playoffs--They have 4 wins with New Paltz and Plattsburgh. Thanks Scooter needs some help
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2009, 08:44:58 PM
Geneseo over visiting Potsdam 90-77

Host Buffalo St. hands New Paltz 9th straight loss 80-65

Morrisville St. travels to Cazenovia and wins 83-80 in OT

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2009, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 14, 2009, 03:16:46 PM
Magic--Give me the scenario for the Eagles to make the SUNYAC playoffs--They have 4 wins with New Paltz and Plattsburgh. Thanks Scooter needs some help

Scooter,

Plattsburgh has 10 losses with 2 games to play. I believe they will win both of those games, on the road against Morrisville and New Paltz to end up at 6-10 in the YAC. New Paltz and Brockport both have 9 losses with 3 games to play. New Paltz travels to Oneonta on Tuesday and finishes at home against Potsdam, then Plattsburgh. I think they lose all 3 games and wind up 4-12. Your Eagles travel to Morrisville on Tuesday a game they will surely win, and finish by hosting Cortland, then Geneseo. Tough 2 game finale. If the Cards win their final 2 games, your Eagles will have to win all 3 of their games to finish 7-9. If they win 2 of 3 they end up tied with Plattsburgh at 6-10 and lose the tiebreaker to the Cards by virtue of that 99-92 OT loss to the Cards back on December 5th.

The other scenario is New Paltz beats Plattsburgh.  They would both end up 5-11 and then Brockport would only have to win 2 of their final 3 games to end up 6-10 and claim the final playoff spot. If Brockport only wins 1 of their final 3 they also end up at 5-11. With a 3 way tie and teams beating each other(New Paltz and Plattsburgh will have split , Brockport beat New Paltz, and Plattsburgh beat Brockport), I think they go to how the 3 tied teams did against the top teams in the conference. Not sure of that however. Bear or jdex will probably have to help me out if that happens. I, of course am hoping for my initial scenario to play out. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2009, 10:16:05 PM
Oswego St. takes care of visiting Oneonta 107-95.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2009, 11:40:07 PM
Conference standings with 1 week to go.

1   Geneseo    11-3      2-20 at Fredonia    2-21 at Brockport
2   Oswego     11-4      2-20 vs Buff St
3   Buffalo St   10-4      2-17 vs Fredonia     2-20 at Oswego
4   Oneonta    10-5      2-17 vs New Paltz
5   Cortland     8-5       2-17 at Potsdam  2-20 at Brockport 2-21 at Fredonia
6   Fredonia     7-6       2-17 at Buff St.   2-20 vs Geneseo  2-21 vs Cortland
7   Potsdam     7-7       2-17 vs Cortland  2-20 at New Paltz
8   Brockport    4-9       2-17 at Morrisville  2-20 vs Cortland  2-21 vs Geneseo
9   New Paltz   4-9       2-17 at Oneonta  2-20 vs Potsdam  2-21 vs Plattsburgh
10 Plattsburgh 4-10     2-20 at Morrisville  2-21 at New Paltz
11 Morrisville    0-14     2-17 vs Brockport  2-20 Vs Plattsburgh

Interesting observation. Probably won't happen, but because of who plays who,  current top 5 teams could all end up with 11-5 records.

Geneseo obviously in driver's seat, but if they go 1-1 and Buff St wins last 2 the Bengals would claim top spot by virtue of win against Geneseo earlier.  Oswego's only chance is to beat Buff St. and hope Geneseo loses both remainig games, then Lakers claim with only 4 losses. Geneseo's 2 wins over Oswego gives them the advantage if they both end up 12-4 .  No other team can come in 1st place.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 14, 2009, 11:43:12 PM
Oswego in front 45-35 at half and builds lead to 20 early in second half. Oneonta within eight at 3:10, then fades. Lakers 32x56fg, 10x21 3s, 33x38ft. K. Reuter 38 pts(10x16fg, 5x8 3s, 13x13ft) in 38'. Oneonta 35x70fg. B. Beckford 24 pts(9x13fg)

Geneseo chases Potsdam 40-38 at half. Tight second half till Gens extend to double figures about 5' from end. Knights 29x57fg, 8x17 3s, 24x30ft. S. Morton 28 pts(8x16fg), 10 assts, 8 rebs, 3 stls; K. Stevens 21 pts(6x8fg). Bears 28x61fg, 12x12ft, 9x18 3s. D. Brown 26 pts(10x17fg, 4x8 3s) 3 assts

Buffalo St. holds 35-26 margin at half vs. New Paltz.  Bengals 28x58fg. A. Speed 16 pts(6x10fg), 6 rebs; J. Gray 14 pts, 4pf in 23'; N. Simmons 11 pts; J. Tyndal 6 assts. NP H. Wichard 21 pts(8x15fg; M. Hauser 16 pts(10x15ft)

Morrisville up 31-29 at half vs. Cazenovia. Squared at 70 thru reg, Mville with slim edge most of OT and clinches on E. Wilson late charity flips. Caz misses '3' at end. Stangs 33x92fg. E. Wilson 24 pts(8x18fg); J. McCants 23 pts(10x25fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2009, 09:57:40 PM
Cortland travels north to Potsdam and falls to the Bears 68-61. Brandon Siskavich hits 2 free throws with 37 seconds left to put the bears up 64-61. Cortland misses a 3 with 12 secs left, grabs the rebound and takes a time out. Red Dragons called for a 5 second violation on the in bounds pass after the time out and Potsdam's Damon Brown fouled and hits 2 more ft's to extend lead to 66-61. Cortland turns it over again and intentionally fouls Siskavich with 2 secs left. He hits both to make the final score 68-61. 

Bears were led by Damon Brown with 16 pts, Siskavich with 10 and Tom Kelso with 10. Red Dragons paced by Juan Miolan with 16 and Dan Evans with 15. Bears were 17-19 from the line which proved to be the deciding factor. Game was close throughout with Cortland opening up a 19-10 early lead and Bears coming back to be down 4 at the break. Never more than a 5 pt lead from then on until the final score. Bears improve to 8-7 with game at New Paltz Friday. Cortland falls to 8-6 and probably loses any chance of a home playoff game. Red Dragons travel to Brockport then New Paltz this weekend.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2009, 10:09:24 PM

Fredonia 82, Buffalo St. 62
Brockport 84, Morrisville 76
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
With Buffalo St. losing tonight Geneseo can clinch 1st place with 1 win in their last 2 games. Only Oswego still with a slim possibility.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2009, 10:36:55 PM
Ya gotta love the 'Yac.

Fredonia sweeps season series from Buff State (which is 9-2 over last 11, only losses to devils).

Bears get smoked in Cortland, then come back and beat Dragons on senior night.

Sorry I'm gonna be away for the playoffs.

P.S.  Dex - you need to start the Jessica Laing AA drive for the women, she's a tremendous player.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2009, 01:31:11 AM
Oneonta takes care of visiting New Paltz 76-63. Oneonta grabs largest 1st half lead 18-12 with 12:24 to play but the Hawks reverse deficit and lead at the break 35-32. Back and forth early 2nd half with 42 all tie at the 15:51 mark. Red Dragons go on 11-0 run to take control. Stretch lead to as much as 18 and coast home.
Michael Grimes was the game's high scorer leading the Red Dragons with 23 pts on 10x14 shooting. Ryan Morin added 18 pts on 8x15 fgs, and Maurice Lane had 10 pts on 4x6 fgs along with 7 rebounds. Brian Beckford's all around play added 11 boards, 5 pts, 3 assists and 3 blocks. New Paltz led by Connor Cornine with 18 pts on 8x13 fgs, Harris Wichard with 17pts on 6x8 fgs 3x3 3's and Lee Bertram with 14 pts on 7x15 fgs. Red Dragons 27x54 fgs 20x27 fts, Hawks 25x48 fgs 5x8 fts.

Oneonta goes to 11-5 clinching 3rd place and a home game for 1st round of the playoffs. Likely opponent is Fredonia or Cortland.  Oneonta can't move up or down in the standings.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 19, 2009, 10:57:11 AM
Magic- Thanks for the info regarding my Eagles--I think they are going to win their final games this weekend vs. Cortland and Geneseo. They lost by 8 at Cortland and have had two nailbiters against Geneseo. That should be an exciting Senior night game for the guys. If they beat Cortland on Friday that will be a huge incentive for Saturday--They control their own destiny!!!Do it Eagles---Scooter in Florida heading to the golf course--Enjoy the weather up their boys!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2009, 10:08:06 PM

Fredonia 64, Geneseo 59
Potsdam 74, New Paltz 71
Brockport 71, Cortlqnd 53
Plattsburgh 73, Morrisville 45
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2009, 10:24:22 PM

Fredonia shoots down Geneseo 28-25 halftime lead. B. Cooper 18 pts; L. Smith 12 pts; B. Morse 10 rebs. Gens J. Howe 13 pts including career 1,000; B. Simpson 11 pts

Potsdam up 33-26 at half at New Paltz. D. Brown 20 pts; S. Clement 18 pts. Bears 24x49fg, 21x28ft. NP H. Wichard 23 pts; C. Cornine 21 pts. Hawks 26x73fg, 12x16ft

Brockport seizes 37-21 halftime lead vs. Cortland, coasts. M. Wilkes 19 pts. Eagles 23x55fg, 16x20ft, 9x24 3s. Corts M. Lewis 15 pts, 13 rebs; C. Niehoff 13 pts(2x13fg); P. Oliver 13 rebs. RDragons 18x49fg, 2x14 3s. Without injured W. Coston

Plattsburgh over Mville 34-18 at half. Cards 34x60fg. C Ruiz 13 pts; B. Mader 12 pts. Stangs K. Gordon 15 pts; B. Eddy 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2009, 10:25:42 PM
jdex,

I needed your Cortland boys to take care of Brockport tonight. What happened? Now I'm sweatin bullets that Geneseo can take care of the Eagles tomorrow night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2009, 10:31:06 PM

Just typical Cortland game this season. No surprise here ......Brockport senior night. Wilkes & Co. light it up from outside. As mentioned Corts without injured W. Coston and Niehoff fires at 2x13ft clip
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2009, 10:33:27 PM

Buffalo St. 90, Oswego 83
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2009, 11:47:08 PM
jdex or bear help me out here,

A week ago I said the top 5 teams could all end up 11-5. That's not going to happen but if Geneseo loses tomorrow night at  Brockport, then there will be 4 teams tied at 11-5. Head to head doesn't work since Oneonta beat Buff St. Geneseo beat Oswego and Oneonta, Oswego beat Oneonta twice, Buff St beat Geneseo and Oswego twice. So I'm thinking it's whoever has the best record against the other three teams they are tied with. Geneseo is 3-1 against the other 3 teams and Buff St is 3-1 against the other 3 teams. Oswego is 2-4 and Oneonta is 1-3. Would that leave just Geneseo and Buff St.?  And since Buff St owns a win in the only game against Geneseo, then Buff St. would win the regular season crown.  This is crazy!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2009, 03:54:09 AM
My preferred scenario would be for Geneseo to  beat Brockport and solve the equation, and insure that the Cards get the #8 spot.

Cards must be wary of NP, gave the Bears quite the Tussle.  Short on manpower since 3 key mid-season losses, but very athletic and scrappy.

The permutations & combinations of a four way tie make my head hurt!



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 21, 2009, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 20, 2009, 11:47:08 PM
jdex or bear help me out here,

A week ago I said the top 5 teams could all end up 11-5. That's not going to happen but if Geneseo loses tomorrow night at  Brockport, then there will be 4 teams tied at 11-5. Head to head doesn't work since Oneonta beat Buff St. Geneseo beat Oswego and Oneonta, Oswego beat Oneonta twice, Buff St beat Geneseo and Oswego twice. So I'm thinking it's whoever has the best record against the other three teams they are tied with. Geneseo is 3-1 against the other 3 teams and Buff St is 3-1 against the other 3 teams. Oswego is 2-4 and Oneonta is 1-3. Would that leave just Geneseo and Buff St.?  And since Buff St owns a win in the only game against Geneseo, then Buff St. would win the regular season crown.  This is crazy!!!

Magicman,

I think you're partially correct on your analysis. In a four-way tie, if I remember correctly, you first look at head-to-head vs. all the tied teams. This puts Geneseo and Buffalo St. each at 3-1, like you mentioned.

However, I don't think you go back to head-to-head once two teams are pulled out from the first step. You continue on with the next step, which is how did teams do vs. each team down the list (in this case, starting with #5, then #6, etc.). I think Geneseo wins this regardless of whether #5 is just Fredonia (if they beat Cortland today) or if #5 is a combination of Fredonia-Potsdam-Cortland (if Cortland wins at Fredonia).

Again, my analysis is totally unofficial - I'm just doing this off the top of my head after reading the tiebreaker rules a few days ago. The league will obviously announce the official pairings once the smoke clears. But from what I can tell, we're looking at 1) Gen, 2) Buff St., 3) Oswego and 4) Oneonta regardless of the Geneseo-Brockport outcome today.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 21, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
The Eagles have completed half the solution to getting into the playoffs--If they can't get enough momentum from Senior night with all those Seniors making contributions I will be extremely disappointed. Do it Eagles--Good luck
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 21, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
The Eagles have completed half the solution to getting into the playoffs--If they can't get enough momentum from Senior night with all those Seniors making contributions I will be extremely disappointed. Do it Eagles--Good luck

Scooter.
Eagles job got a lot tougher with Geneseo losing last night. From articles I read today Geneseo needs to win tonight to claim #1 seed. If they had clinched last night they wouldn't have anything to play for against your Eagles this evening. Also, jdex said that last night was Brockport's Senior Night. I hope he was right. ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 08:07:26 PM
Plattsburgh St. defeats host New Paltz 57-54. Awaits outcome of Geneseo- Brockport game to see if they get the 8th seed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 08:30:30 PM
Brockport out to early 20-12 lead over Geneseo with 11:04 left in the 1st half. Gens Scott Morton scores 1st 2 pts of the game and then commits 2 fouls in 55 seconds and goes to the bench with only 1:52 gone in the 1st half. Just what the Blue Knights needed. Probable POY sitting in most crucial game of season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 09:07:38 PM
Geneseo down 27-17 with 8:53 left in 1st half fights back to take the lead 31-30, but Brockport's Shawn Harris hits a pair of 3 pointers and the Eagles go into the break up 36-33. Morton ended up playing 9 mins and has 6 pts, 8 rebounds and 3 assists. Fortunately Morton did not pick up another foul yet. Kyle Stevens with 11 pts and 5 boards for the Knights. Harris with 11 pts and Jermaine Johnson with 8 for the Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 09:19:02 PM
Fredonia drops visiting Cortland 71-68 and finishes conference play at 10-6 to claim the 5th seed in the playoffs. Cortland finishes 8-8 and drops in back of Potsdam who ended with a 9-7 record. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 09:26:18 PM
Brockport up 68-60 with 6:33 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 09:42:06 PM
Brockport closes in on final playoff berth. Up 80-70 with 1:15 left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 09:59:36 PM
Quote from: franelia on February 21, 2009, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 20, 2009, 11:47:08 PM
jdex or bear help me out here,

A week ago I said the top 5 teams could all end up 11-5. That's not going to happen but if Geneseo loses tomorrow night at  Brockport, then there will be 4 teams tied at 11-5. Head to head doesn't work since Oneonta beat Buff St. Geneseo beat Oswego and Oneonta, Oswego beat Oneonta twice, Buff St beat Geneseo and Oswego twice. So I'm thinking it's whoever has the best record against the other three teams they are tied with. Geneseo is 3-1 against the other 3 teams and Buff St is 3-1 against the other 3 teams. Oswego is 2-4 and Oneonta is 1-3. Would that leave just Geneseo and Buff St.?  And since Buff St owns a win in the only game against Geneseo, then Buff St. would win the regular season crown.  This is crazy!!!

Magicman,

I think you're partially correct on your analysis. In a four-way tie, if I remember correctly, you first look at head-to-head vs. all the tied teams. This puts Geneseo and Buffalo St. each at 3-1, like you mentioned.

However, I don't think you go back to head-to-head once two teams are pulled out from the first step. You continue on with the next step, which is how did teams do vs. each team down the list (in this case, starting with #5, then #6, etc.). I think Geneseo wins this regardless of whether #5 is just Fredonia (if they beat Cortland today) or if #5 is a combination of Fredonia-Potsdam-Cortland (if Cortland wins at Fredonia).

Again, my analysis is totally unofficial - I'm just doing this off the top of my head after reading the tiebreaker rules a few days ago. The league will obviously announce the official pairings once the smoke clears. But from what I can tell, we're looking at 1) Gen, 2) Buff St., 3) Oswego and 4) Oneonta regardless of the Geneseo-Brockport outcome today.

Fran

Fran,

I think you are correct because I seem to remember it that way as well. But I kept reading things like Geneseo has to win tonight and it made me wonder why they had to win if the tiebreaker is what we think it is. Now that Fredonia is the 5th seed and Geneseo was 1-1 against them and Buff St. was 0-2 against Fredonia I guess Geneseo wins that tiebreaker. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 10:01:53 PM
Final score Brockport 86 Geneseo 81. Brockport clinches 8th seed with a 7-9 record.

Mychal Wilkes leads the Golden Eagles with 20 pts on 6x12 fgs 3x8 3's 5x7 fts and 6 rebounds. Ian Mack with 12 pts on perfect 5x5 fgs and 2x2 fts. Jermaine Johnson also 12 pts and Shawn Harris with 11 pts all in the 1st half. Eagles shot 29x57 fg's 10x23 3's and 22x31 fts.

Geneseo's Kyle Stevens was the game's high scorer with 22 pts on 8x12 fgs 5x7 3's and 8 rebounds. Scott Morton had 20 pts on 4x11 fg's 3x6 3's 9x12 fts along with game high 12 boards and 7 assists. Jeff Howe and Mike Hoy added 13 pts each.
Knights 24x50 fg's 9x18 3's and 24x33 fts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2009, 10:12:44 PM
SUNYAC Standings are showing
Buff State
Geneseo
Oneonta
Oswego

That happens to be alphabetical order, so we anxiously await the pairings, Hoping you folks are right and Oswego is the 3 seed.  Bears don't match up well with Oneonta.

Magic - sorry about the Cards, so close & yet so far away

dex - Dragons late season collapse is troubling, I had them as my odds-on preseason chalk pick.  Too much talent to be the 7 seed.

kudo's to Corts women who staged a monumental second half comeback today, down 15 at half, came back to win by 10
due some love in the national polls.

Noticed Simpson did not play for Geneseo.  IMHO after Morton, he's their next best player, and certainly most athletic.
Geneseo is not as good a team without him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 21, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Magicman,

I just checked - the league tiebreaker does start with the 4-way head-to-head. Teams that are still tied after that go to the "how you did vs. the next team down the list, etc." tiebreaker, which means Geneseo should be #1 (by being 1-1 vs. #5 Fredonia) and Buffalo St. should be #2 (by being 0-2 vs. #5 Fredonia). Geneseo and Buffalo St. are not compared in a 2-way head-to-head since the tie for first was a four-team tie, not a two-team tie. The "head-to-head" component of the tiebreaker, therefore, has Geneseo and Buffalo St. even at 3-1.

The official word, of course, will come from the SUNYAC, but my unofficial take on this has 1) Gen, 2) Buff St., 3) Oswego, 4) Oneonta, 5) Fredonia, 6) Potsdam, 7) Cortland and 8 ) Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: franelia on February 21, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Magicman,

I just checked - the league tiebreaker does start with the 4-way head-to-head. Teams that are still tied after that go to the "how you did vs. the next team down the list, etc." tiebreaker, which means Geneseo should be #1 (by being 1-1 vs. #5 Fredonia) and Buffalo St. should be #2 (by being 0-2 vs. #5 Fredonia). Geneseo and Buffalo St. are not compared in a 2-way head-to-head since the tie for first was a four-team tie, not a two-team tie. The "head-to-head" component of the tiebreaker, therefore, has Geneseo and Buffalo St. even at 3-1.

The official word, of course, will come from the SUNYAC, but my unofficial take on this has 1) Gen, 2) Buff St., 3) Oswego, 4) Oneonta, 5) Fredonia, 6) Potsdam, 7) Cortland and 8 ) Brockport.

Fran,

That's what I come up with as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
Bear,

Thanks for the sympathy concerning the Cardinals. The good thing about living in a SUNYAC city and having one's alma mater as another SUNYAC school is I still have something to root for. GO BEARS!!!

I had also picked Cortland to win the conference this year.

Kudos to Buff St. 0-6 in 2008, 14-4 in 2009. Fredonia comes back to haunt them again in the tiebreaker(we think!!)

I will go out on a limb and predict the Cardinals will return as a conference power next year. At least in the top 3 of the YAC

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2009, 11:03:26 PM
Scooterman,

You should play golf tomorrow. You're so pumped because your Eagles made the playoffs, you'll probably reach all the par 5's in 2 and shoot under par.(Which would probably be a first ;D).

Seriously though, Congrats to the Eagles. They had a tough row to hoe, but won 4 straight to edge out my Cards. Looks like you'll get Geneseo again on Tuesday. Not often you get to play a team 4 times in a season. Because your Eagles won by 5 tonight and you lost the other 2 games against Geneseo by 2 pts and 1 pt you at least have outscored them in head to head play. Good Luck.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2009, 02:19:21 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
Bear,

I will go out on a limb and predict the Cardinals will return as a conference power next year. At least in the top 3 of the YAC


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2009, 02:20:10 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
Bear,

Thanks for the sympathy concerning the Cardinals. The good thing about living in a SUNYAC city and having one's alma mater as another SUNYAC school is I still have something to root for. GO BEARS!!!

. . .

I will go out on a limb and predict the Cardinals will return as a conference power next year. At least in the top 3 of the YAC


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2009, 02:29:13 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
Bear,

Thanks for the sympathy concerning the Cardinals. The good thing about living in a SUNYAC city and having one's alma mater as another SUNYAC school is I still have something to root for. GO BEARS!!!
. . .snip. . .

I will go out on a limb and predict the Cardinals will return as a conference power next year. At least in the top 3 of the YAC



That's right, I forgot that we share that common bond as graduates of the oldest (and finest IMHO) unit of the State University.

I agree that the young Cards are a scary thought.  The nucleus is there, Brooks, Ruiz, Daniyan, and Mader should keep rival coaches awake at night.  Playing college defense takes time, and/or maturity, last year Wms, Gorham, & co were men!.  Curle's ability to mine the juco ranks should work in his favor.

Conference just gets tougher as this years four way tie illustrates, take 16 wins out of the pool (No Morrisville in '10) and it gets even tougher.

I'm hoping your crystal ball gazing is right.  I have to fly out of Syracuse Wednesday AM, and my wife's sister lives in Oswego, so I have convinced the wife to go see her sister, and drop me at Laker Hall (a house of horrors for the Bears of late) on the way.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 22, 2009, 02:15:53 PM
Buff State's website confirms they are the 2 seed and will play Cortland; Geneseo-BPort in the 1-8.  Interesting interpretation by the SUNYAC, I would have guessed they used the "NFL method" of reverting to Step 1 and H2H whenever the initial tie is broken.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2009, 02:35:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2009, 10:33:11 PM
Quote from: franelia on February 21, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Magicman,

I just checked - the league tiebreaker does start with the 4-way head-to-head. Teams that are still tied after that go to the "how you did vs. the next team down the list, etc." tiebreaker, which means Geneseo should be #1 (by being 1-1 vs. #5 Fredonia) and Buffalo St. should be #2 (by being 0-2 vs. #5 Fredonia). Geneseo and Buffalo St. are not compared in a 2-way head-to-head since the tie for first was a four-team tie, not a two-team tie. The "head-to-head" component of the tiebreaker, therefore, has Geneseo and Buffalo St. even at 3-1.

The official word, of course, will come from the SUNYAC, but my unofficial take on this has 1) Gen, 2) Buff St., 3) Oswego, 4) Oneonta, 5) Fredonia, 6) Potsdam, 7) Cortland and 8 ) Brockport.

Fran,

That's what I come up with as well.

Fran,

It's official. Pairings from the SUNYAC website:

#8 Brockport at #1 Geneseo

#5 Fredonia at #4 Oneonta

#6 Potsdam at #3 Oswego

#7 Cortland at #2 Buffalo St.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2009, 10:46:54 PM
Quote from: franelia on February 21, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
Magicman,

I just checked - the league tiebreaker does start with the 4-way head-to-head. Teams that are still tied after that go to the "how you did vs. the next team down the list, etc." tiebreaker,

This is stupid, to be honest. Why would you break a two-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo based on anything but their head-to-head game(s)?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 23, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
I feel like in this case they got to the right conclusion the wrong way.  All things considered, 17-8 Geneseo is probably better than 14-10 Buff State, but the Bengals did beat the Knights.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2009, 05:08:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2009, 10:46:54 PM

This is stupid, to be honest. Why would you break a two-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo based on anything but their head-to-head game(s)?

In this case, IMHO Geneseo would agree with you.  They are drawing the hottest team in the league, who just beat them on Saturday, and the Knights were missing their most athletic starter.  Meanwhile Buff State draws a skidding Cortland team.  I'm sure the Knights would have gladly been the #2 seed, as Brockport can beat anyone in the league the way they are playing.

Also Caz, Buff State had a wretched (0-6) start but has been on a roll since the semester break, I think they're 14-4 in their last 20.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 23, 2009, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2009, 10:46:54 PM

This is stupid, to be honest. Why would you break a two-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo based on anything but their head-to-head game(s)?

Pat, I think the rationale behind this is that it's not a 2-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo St., it's a 4-way tie that also includes Oswego and Oneonta. Head-to-head is applied to the 4-way tie, and the teams that remain tied move to the next step after head-to-head.

That said, I definitely see the logic in going to 2-way head-to-head if the 4-way head-to-head still leaves two tied teams.

I'd be curious to see how other leagues handle multiple-team (3 or more) ties. If anyone knows of other league's tiebreakers available online, let me know.

Thanks.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2009, 08:09:13 PM
Oswego leads Potsdam 66-48 with 13 mins to play in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2009, 08:23:26 PM
Brockport stomping Geneseo 58-37 with 8:42 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2009, 08:48:10 PM

Cortland survives short backcourt to knock off Buffalo St. 68-65 when big men M. Lewis and P. Oliver come up huge
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2009, 08:49:12 PM
Cortland drops Buffalo St 68-65

Geneseo loses to Brockport

Top 2 seeds are history

As thebear says "you gotta love the YAC"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2009, 08:54:43 PM
Potsdam, down 21 to Oswego with 11 mins to play rallies to close the gap but comes up short as the Lakers win 92-87. Oswego will host the final 4 this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2009, 08:55:31 PM

Bport 78, Geneseo 64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2009, 09:31:16 PM

Cortland survives late host Buffalo St. push. RDragons on front side of 38-36 lead at half and build 56-47 margin with just under seven minutes left. Bengals, pressing throughout, battle back within 65-63 at 1:15. CSt misfires from ft line and BS from field. J. Miolen gets clincher on breakaway with long R. Evans pass at 0:07. Miolen steadies shaky Cort backcourt in 40' effort. Has eight (of team 20 in 27x51fg) assts, 10 pts, 5 rebs. M. Lewis delivers 18 pts(6x10fg AND 6x8ft), 5 rebs, 2 assts, 2 stls in 36'; C. Niehoff 21 pts(9x17fg), 3x8 3s), 6 rebs, 6 assts in 39'; P. Oliver 10 rebs, 8 pts(4x6fg) in 30'. Ailing W. Coston sees 2' of action. BS J. Gray 15 pts(7x18fg), 7 assts, 3 stls; AJ White 14 pts; J. Tyndal 11 pts(3x18fg)

Brockport  on target early at Geneseo, taking 38-22 lead at half. Gens never a threat. Port 22x54fg, 9x20 3s, 25x31ft. J. Clarke 19 pts; J. Johnson 16 pts; M. Wilkes 13 pts; J. Zenkel 11 pts; A. Marchand 11 pts. Knights M. Hoy only double figure scorer with 25 pts; Jostens Trophy candidate S. Morton 9 pts(3x13fg), 11 rebs. Gens 21x48fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2009, 09:46:51 PM

Fredonia wire to wire at Oneonta wins 83-65

Final Four at Oswego ......

Friday semis: Fredonia-Brockport, Cortland-Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 24, 2009, 09:58:07 PM
Magic-Sorry so late getting to post but you should have seen me hit the ball on the par 5's on Sunday. I was untouchable!!! I do feel for you but my Eagles are on fire!! Bring on the Fred's--The boys are feeling it---" Just go out and have some fun." The YAC's are up for grabs.  Magic--you are always welcome to come and play some golf. Scooterman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 24, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
Actually, pairings will be Cortland-Fredonia and Oswego-Brockport. For the past couple of years, the seeds are "re-shuffled" after the quarterfinals so that the highest seed plays the lowest seed in the semifinals (similar to what SUNYAC ice hockey does). It wasn't noticeable last year, though, because seeds 1, 2, 3 and 5 won in the opening round. This year, it's noticeable...

Friday at Oswego
#7 Cortland vs. #5 Fredonia, 6 p.m.
#8 Brockport vs. #3 Oswego, 8 p.m.

Saturday - Finals at 4 p.m.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 25, 2009, 01:12:29 AM
Dios mio man!!  It's carnage out there in state-school country tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2009, 03:34:10 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 24, 2009, 09:58:07 PM
Magic-Sorry so late getting to post but you should have seen me hit the ball on the par 5's on Sunday. I was untouchable!!! I do feel for you but my Eagles are on fire!! Bring on the Fred's--The boys are feeling it---" Just go out and have some fun." The YAC's are up for grabs.  Magic--you are always welcome to come and play some golf. Scooterman

I bet you did pound the ball on Sunday. But no Eagles for the Eagle fan???? ;D  Had a feeling Port was going to do it again tonight. Too bad, but you don't get Fredonia on Friday night. You've owned them this year. Oswego on the other hand has had the Eagles number and that's something you will have to sweat out a bit come this weekend.
But Port is hot right now and Oswego got roughed up 2 weeks ago, 91-61 AT HOME by the team Bport crushed tonight. I'd say the revenge factor is huge, not just because you're 0-2 this year against the Lakers, but remember who it was that ended the Eagles NCAA dream last year. Yep, in last years YAC semifinals Lakers 87-72. Good luck Scooter.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2009, 04:21:52 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 23, 2009, 05:08:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2009, 10:46:54 PM

This is stupid, to be honest. Why would you break a two-way tie between Geneseo and Buffalo based on anything but their head-to-head game(s)?

In this case, IMHO Geneseo would agree with you.  They are drawing the hottest team in the league, who just beat them on Saturday, and the Knights were missing their most athletic starter.  Meanwhile Buff State draws a skidding Cortland team.  I'm sure the Knights would have gladly been the #2 seed, as Brockport can beat anyone in the league the way they are playing.

Also Caz, Buff State had a wretched (0-6) start but has been on a roll since the semester break, I think they're 14-4 in their last 20.

Bear.
Certainly were right about Geneseo drawing the hot team in Bport.  Meanwhile Cortland put on the brakes just in time.  jdex a happy camper down in Florida. Be hard pressed to find another conference in the country with an 8,7 5, and 3 seed left  after the 1st round.
Did you get to Oswego to see the game. I listened to most of it on the Bearcast. Nice comeback but 21 down with 11 to play is pretty big hole to dig out of.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
Yeah - I was there.  two big turning points as I see it,  Brown gets a wide open layup with 7 secs left in 1H.  Burridge stuffs him, grabs the rebound and outlets to Downing who hits a NBA 3 pointer at the buzzer.  5 point swing there.

Second Half, Bears did a horrible job of defending the post for the first 10 minutes.  Dobbs went to a smaller quicker lineup and gave the Laker fits for most of the rest of the game.  Dike and Clement came to play, but Damon Brown disappeared, probably the worst game of his career.

Z's were hometown Syracuse/Oswego boys, Burridge had four fouls and 8 blocks, at least two of those had contact with the body, no call.  Horrible block charge call inside 2 mins, as bears were pulling to within 5, waved off that hoop, and Clement hits a wide open three, but waved off as zebra calls a hold off the ball, at the same time as the shot goes up.

As I said, gotta love the 'yac, within two baskets of having the top four seeds knocked out. 

The way 'port is playing,I don't see anyone beating them.  Who ever wins the 'yac will undoubtedly be first round cannon fodder for probably SLU.

Writing this from O'Hare, in San Antonio this weekend for Dad's memorial service/family gathering.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 26, 2009, 08:41:09 AM
My predictions for the weekend openers in Oswego--Cortland will outlast the Fred's as they are more experienced in the tourney, and Spanny will have the boys jacked and ready to play. My Eagles and Oswego are a tough call. Magic is right about Oswego having the Eagles number and match ups are not in Eagles favor. If they can get some big productive minutes from their role players off the bench and REVENGE FACTOR from last year's debacle in the tourney---THE EAGLES WILL BE IN THE FINALS ON SATURDAY!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2009, 05:16:51 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 26, 2009, 08:41:09 AM
My predictions for the weekend openers in Oswego--Cortland will outlast the Fred's as they are more experienced in the tourney, and Spanny will have the boys jacked and ready to play. My Eagles and Oswego are a tough call. Magic is right about Oswego having the Eagles number and match ups are not in Eagles favor. If they can get some big productive minutes from their role players off the bench and REVENGE FACTOR from last year's debacle in the tourney---THE EAGLES WILL BE IN THE FINALS ON SATURDAY!!!!

Scooter,

That's almost the old "counting your Eagles before they've hatched" thing. :D Good idea that you added the word if to start that last sentence or you might have jinxed your guys. Still, the capital letters on the last part might qualify as a jinx. Might want to go back and modify that before tonight's game. ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 27, 2009, 07:41:11 PM

Fredonia shades Cortland 56-55 on B. Cooper hoop at 0:08 -- last of 22 points. Five lead changes in final 3:12. Freds lead by 13 with just over 8 minutes left. C. Niehoff gives RDragons edge at 3:12. Back and forth we go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 27, 2009, 07:53:12 PM

Fredonia leads most of the way. Cortland scoreless first 5', comes back for brief lead and trails 28-23 at intermission. Niehoff (21 pts, 9x21fg, 5 rebs, 3 stls in 40') and P. Oliver provide RDragon lift. B. Cooper counterpunches and L. Smith also delivers big late bucket. Cooper 9x14fg in 40' stint. J. Bryant 11 pts for Freds. Oliver finishes with 15', 7 rebs, 4pf in 24'. W. Coston 5 assts in 16' of Cort duty, scoreless as is J. Miolen
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 27, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
Magic--It's a good thing I didn't read your post until after the game tonight because I probably would have modified it. Anyway the Eagles go 18-20 from the foul line in the last 3 minutes and the role players, Kays,Brooks, G. Williams and Johnson give them huge productive minutes for the VICTORY AND A TRIP TO THE SUNYAC FINALS!!! Wilkes and Harris were very effective with the ball and made some great shots when they were needed. It was a total team effort to beat a very good Oswego squad. I was wrong about the first game. Beating a team 3 times in one season is not an easy task for the Eagles.(Fredonia) They must come to play if they want that NCAA berth!!!!LETS GO EAGLES!!By the way I sucked at golf today but the weather was great.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2009, 11:54:01 PM
Brockport wins at Oswego 84-70 and advances to the title game against Fredonia tomorrow afternoon at 4:00 in Oswego. Eagles,(13-14 Overall) led 41-35 at the half and maintained that lead for most of the second half. With seven minutes left, Brockport held a four point lead at 58-54 but scored the next eight points to take a 12-point lead. Oswego cut the lead to six points with 3:01 to play before Brockport went on another 8-0 run to up the lead to 14 and coast to victory. Mychal Wilkes was the game's high scorer leading the Eagles with 21 points 8 boards and 5 steals. 16 of his pts came in the 2nd half. Brockport placed 4 guys in double figures as Shawn Harris netted 14,  Eamon Kays 11 off the bench,  and Joe Clarke added 10. Eagles sure picked a good time to go on their longest winning streak of the season which now stands at 6.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2009, 12:44:51 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 27, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
Magic--It's a good thing I didn't read your post until after the game tonight because I probably would have modified it. Anyway the Eagles go 18-20 from the foul line in the last 3 minutes and the role players, Kays,Brooks, G. Williams and Johnson give them huge productive minutes for the VICTORY AND A TRIP TO THE SUNYAC FINALS!!! Wilkes and Harris were very effective with the ball and made some great shots when they were needed. It was a total team effort to beat a very good Oswego squad. I was wrong about the first game. Beating a team 3 times in one season is not an easy task for the Eagles.(Fredonia) They must come to play if they want that NCAA berth!!!!LETS GO EAGLES!!By the way I sucked at golf today but the weather was great.

Scooter,

Congratulations, you're getting the thrills a year later than you wanted but what a story the Eagles are turning out to be. Losing Parrish, early in the tear  then Almeida a few games after that really put a hurting on the Eagles. It took a while for the new combinations to jell but in this 6 game winning streak that Port has put together they look like they should have been the top seed and not the 8th seed. To be honest I didn't think they had a snowball's chance in hell of even making the playoffs when they had to finish with Potsdam, Morrisville, Cortland, and Geneseo. I figured 1-3 or 2-2 at best. I'll be rooting for you tomorrow. It is tough to beat a team 3 times in a season, as Oswegp found out tonight, but Port has really handled Fredonia both games. Fred's are well coached and very diciplined, just don't think they match up well with the Eagles. I'll go out in a limb here and predict--- 77-71 Eagles.
Weather was great in the North Country today as well 41 degrees 25-50 MPH winds and rain all day. Lucky us :( >:( (At least it wasn't snow)Last year our local courses opened up on the 16th of April. This year, we got a lot more snow so it will probably be a bit later than that. 8 of my friends are going to Florida next Friday to play for 8 days in a row. One of these years I'll join them.  Hope to catch part of the broadcast tomorrow. Good luck.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 28, 2009, 12:53:00 PM

Big tip of the lid to Port!!! And to you, Scooterman. Great story to topsy-turvy SUNYAC season. Still trying to figure out just 'What hoppened.' From one game to the next, never able to get a handle on this thing.

But for Bport to lose so much from last season, then lose so much from first semester, and still get things rolling and convincingly drill Geneseo and Oswego -- conference's two best outfits, we thought, and on the road no less, well, just outstanding!

Now, with all that love, tis gotta be the kiss of death today. But we're not gonna bet against the Eagles
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 28, 2009, 05:42:13 PM
Brockport up by 9 with 1:09 to go.  Gonna be a double championship for the BPort men and women.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2009, 05:50:24 PM
Brockport downs Fredonia 64-59  to win the SUNYAC conference tournament championship. The Eagles are going to the NCAA's. Scooterman is 6 feet off the ground.
Scooter I'm disappointed in the Eagles I had them winning by 6. Congratulations.
RPI upset St. Lawrence today and gets the Automatic Qualifier from the Liberty League. Saints will still get a Pool C bid but Hamilton might lose out now. And Nazareth upset Ithaca to advance to the E8 championship against RIT who beat Utica today.

No regular season champion from the E8, LL or SUNYAC gets a Pool A bid. This will give us at least 5 teams in the NCAA tournament. Last year we only had 3 from those conferences. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 28, 2009, 11:15:58 PM
Well guys--The Eagles had an incredible run through the SUNYAC Championships. I wasn't feeling real positive with 2:30 left and the Eagles going 1-3 from the foul at that point. The Fred's mounted one last run but Wilkes put the hammer down with 6 foul shots in the last minute. Are they going to draw the Bombers? I am just absolutely ectastic that they made it. Kudos to Coach Dunne and his staff for getting the fellows to believe and pull together. Great job!!! Hopefully they have some upsets left in them for the Big Tourney!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2009, 01:52:04 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 28, 2009, 11:15:58 PM
Well guys--The Eagles had an incredible run through the SUNYAC Championships. I wasn't feeling real positive with 2:30 left and the Eagles going 1-3 from the foul at that point. The Fred's mounted one last run but Wilkes put the hammer down with 6 foul shots in the last minute. Are they going to draw the Bombers? I am just absolutely ectastic that they made it. Kudos to Coach Dunne and his staff for getting the fellows to believe and pull together. Great job!!! Hopefully they have some upsets left in them for the Big Tourney!!!

What!! Scooter you were worried. I gave you the predicted outcome. Have a little faith baby! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2009, 01:53:19 AM
Posted this on several of the East Region boards.

It looks like the East Region will have 7 bids to the NCAA tournament and are as follows:

1   Brockport St.  Pool A  SUNYAC automatic bid
2   RPI   Pool A Liberty League  automatic bid
3   Medaille  Pool A   Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference  automatic bid
4   RIT/Nazareth winner Pool A  Empire 8 automatic bid
5   SUNYIT/Wells winner  Pool A  North Eastern Athletic Conference automatic bid
6   Ithaca  Pool C  at large bid
7   St Lawrence  Pool C  at large bid

I think Hamilton is going to lose out because of all the upsets today to teams that would have been Pool A bids but have now been relegated to Pool C.( Like Ithaca)
After all the teams that should have been Pool A bids take the Pool C bids instead
that doesn't leave enough Pool C bids left for the East Region to get 3 Pool C's. There are simply too many good teams on the bubble. With 8 regions and only 18 Pool C at large bids there is no way that the East will get 3 of them. St Lawrence could even possibly get knocked out of the picture. The 1 good thing the Saints have going for them is that they will remain #2 in the final Regional rankings that come out later today(Sunday) but will not be seen by the public. No way Hamilton can leap over the Saints as they lost in the LL semifinals and the Saints own 2 head to head wins over them.  So for sure 6 teams but I think the Saints get in to give us the 7 bids. At least it's better than the 4 we had last year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2009, 05:05:57 AM
It is now several hours after I posted my list of NCAA bids and D3Hoops has just come out with their NCAA projections. Here's the link:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/09/projected.htm

As I expected the 7 East Region teams I listed are in and Hamilton gets left on the table. D3Hoops projects a 4 team pod with host Ithaca as a #1 seed facing the winner of the SUNYIT/Wells game. The other game will pit Amherst against Brandeis.

St. Lawrence will host another 4 team pod and face Brockport St. UM-Dartmouth will take on the NAZ/RIT winner.(Which they show as RIT. Pat must have a crystal ball)

RPI is an 8 seed and will travel to #1 seed Richard Stockton.

Medaille is also a #8 seed and will travel to the Cleveland Ohio region and face the #1 seed John Carroll.

The coveted 1st round bye has went to Middlebury.

Remember these are only D3Hoops projections and not the actual selections but they will be very close to the NCAA's picks. However, the placement of the teams could differ considerably.

Middlebury losing to Amherst could have an impact on the bye, with it  possibly going to Ithaca.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
You read it here first -

Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2009, 12:28:53 PM

The way 'port is playing,I don't see anyone beating them. 


Interesting as well, 'port has a very winnable first round game vs. Carnegie-Mellon (UAA).  Would've thought that a 14-14 team would have been cannon fodder, but looks like location triumphs once again, as 'port is within driving (all lake effect - all the time) distance of Cleveland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: larry_u on March 02, 2009, 04:39:58 PM
Can someone post your NCAA team's profiles in here:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6299.0
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gPod on March 02, 2009, 09:20:37 PM
hey scooter...how proud are you of our brockport guys?? probably a little bias coming from me, but no other team deserves this as much as them in my opinion.  had a rough season with a lot of key losses to starters and losing a lot of talent from last years team.  got to hand it to them tho, they really performed when it mattered.  with 6 seniors on the team its good to see a great showing of leadership all around.  they got a great draw in the NCAA tourney too, so let's hope they represent the SUNYAC well.  also, i think the SUNYAC tourney shows how tough of a league this was all year, probably a little under-rated.  any team could win on any given night.

scooter, hope everything is well with you, maybe we can hit the links with coach dunne sometime.  take care and DON'T TELL LINDA!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2009, 02:09:20 AM
Here's the SUNYAC All Conference teams.

Congratulations to Scott Morton  Player of the Year. No surprise there.

2008-09 SUNYAC Men's Basketball All-Conference selections
First Team

Name School Pos. Yr. Ht. Hometown/Previous School

Tommy Downing Oswego G/F Sr. 6'2 Staten island/Curtis
Scott Morton Geneseo G Sr. 6'6 Syracuse/Westhill
Kyle Reuter Oswego G Sr. 5'10 Mexico/Mexico
Chris Ruiz Plattsburgh G So. 6'4 Bronx/St. Agnes
Mychal Wilkes Brockport G Sr. 5'11 Newark/Newark

Second Team

Name School Pos. Yr. Ht. Hometown/Previous School

Damon Brown Potsdam G Sr. 6'2 Brooklyn/Port Richmond
Jamar Gray Buffalo State G Sr. 6'3 Rochester/Bishop Kearney
Mike Grimes Oneonta F Jr. 6'4 Albany/Catholic Central
Ryan Morin Oneonta F/C Sr. 6'7 Altamont/Guilderland
Carson Niehoff Cortland G/F Sr. 6'4 West Islip/West Islip

Honorable Mention

Name School Pos. Yr. Ht. Hometown/Previous School

Brad Cooper Fredonia G Jr. 6'0 Monticello/Monticello
Stanley Francois Oswego F Jr. 6'2 Valley Cottage/SUNY Cobleskill
Jeff Howe Geneseo F Sr. 6'8 Niskayuna/Niskayuna
Antonio Speed Buffalo State F So. 6'7 Buffalo/East
James Tyndal Buffalo State G Sr. 5'9 Bronx/Msgr. Scanlon

2008-09 Player of the Year: Scott Morton, Geneseo

2008-09 Rookie of the Year: Chad Burridge, Oswego

Of the 15 honored players there were 10 seniors, 3 juniors and 2 sophomores.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2009, 11:25:13 AM

ECAC Upstate  at Fisher:

Saturday -- 1- Fredonia vs. 4- Hartwick, 6 p.m.; 2- SJF vs. 3- Oswego, 8

Sunday -- Final at 1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 04, 2009, 12:53:24 PM
gpod--Great to hear from you--The Eagles were scary this season with all the drama around them--losing C. Parrish and the Almeda man--Coach Dunne and his staff did an excellent job of adjusting the style and getting the kids to buy into the revamped system. Having all those seniors definitely helped hold the crew together and it all paid off---I agree they got an excellent draw with C-M-- The UAA is a tough conference with the big guy mentality. There will be some match-up situations both ways. It should be an interesting showdown in Cleveland. Gpod--come to FL and we will play some golf!!!Only Linda knows---Scooterman signing off
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2009, 09:55:14 PM
Brockport down 46-43 against Carnegie Mellon with 5:42 to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2009, 10:09:54 PM
Brockport with the ball down 3 55-52 with 32 secs left to play

Wilkes nails a 2 pt jumper Port fouls, CMU misses both free throws .Port with the ball 14 secs to go Port's Clarke fouled goes to the line hits both Brockport up 56-55 with 8 secs left. CMU comes down misses a jumper gets offensive rebound and Bouldin-johnson for CMU is fouled. Misses 1st FT hits 2nd tied at 56. Here we go to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 06, 2009, 10:19:19 PM
Congratulations to SUNYIT and Coach Grimmer for knocking off #11 Elms! This is the first NCAA victory for the boys from Utica. Even though you left the SUNYAC you still have SUNY in your name!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 06, 2009, 10:24:54 PM
SUNYIT wins 85-77. Elms shot a woeful 9-32 from behind the arc.  ::) ::) Wildcats will face St. Lawrence who will have home court advantage. The Saints took down Brooklyn College earlier in the evening.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 06, 2009, 10:27:35 PM
magicman: Why are the stats so far behind your update of SUNY-Brockport game?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2009, 10:29:47 PM
I don,t know I might have a different link for live stats. Anyway they are tied at 63 and going to double OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 06, 2009, 10:31:04 PM
Thanks! I'm tuning in on the SUNY-Brockport web site!!!!!! Go Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2009, 10:43:37 PM
Brockport 's valiant effort coming up a little short as they are now down 73-70 with 8 secs left and CMU is going to the line need 2 misses here now Ow he hit them both and Port loses 75-70 Too bad for the Eagles but they did the SUNYAC proud.

Four overtime games and Port's double OT game tonight in the !st round of play. What a night for D3 Hoops. I'm exhausted just listening to them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2009, 12:10:08 AM
Brockport's magical run comes to an end but they didn't go down without a fight.
Eamon Kays led the Eagles with 15 pts and 8 rebounds. He was 6x11 from the field and 3 for 3 from the line. Ian Mack had 14 pts on 6x9 fgs and 2x2 fts. Mychal Wilkes added 12 points and Joe Clarke chipped in with 10. Eagles didn't have the best of nights shooting from the field going 23 x 69 for an even 33%. They were much better from the line hitting 21 of 26 for an 80% clip. Ultimately going 3 x 20 from long range had to hurt. Another telling stat was only 6 assists recorded by the entire team. Couldn't listen to the game, but followed it on live stats, so I don't know if it was a case of great defense by CMU for the low shooting % or just a lack of getting the ball to the open guy but only 6 assists in a double OT game is not good. Kays and Mack were the only players with decent fg%. CMU placed 5 guys in double figures led by Jack Anderson with 15.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 07, 2009, 01:52:38 AM
Hey Magic - notice Ruiz made first team but no one else from Platt mentionned.  Was that a little disappointing or expected because of not getting to playoffs?   Congrats to Soph Ruiz though.  No doubt a tough force to be reckoned with in the future!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2009, 07:28:37 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 07, 2009, 01:52:38 AM
Hey Magic - notice Ruiz made first team but no one else from Platt mentionned.  Was that a little disappointing or expected because of not getting to playoffs?   Congrats to Soph Ruiz though.  No doubt a tough force to be reckoned with in the future!

with age,
Pretty much expected it. Thought Errol Daniyan at the beginning of the year might have a shot but foul trouble in too many games limited his minutes. Inconsistant as well. Ruiz showed up every game, Daniyan disappeared some nights. But he's going to improve and expect he and Ruiz will make the awards list next year. I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict Player of the Year honors for Ruiz next year. Only thing that might prevent that is, he's only a junior next season and some senior from another team having a strong year, might get the award. Similar to this year where they gave it to Morton. But Morton was deserving this year no question about that. Give me a call if you ever make it back up to Plattsburgh. I imagine your road trips will take quite a downturn now that your  son's career is over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 07, 2009, 08:32:02 PM
I agree Magic, the Eagles put up a valiant effort but couldn't knock down the 3's. If they only made 25% from the 3 they could have pulled it out. The first 8 points of the second overtime told the story for CM. Anyway the Eagles did me proud by not folding at midseason with all their distractions' and made it back to the dance after a year's absence. Congrats to the seniors, Coach Dunne and staff and the entire Eagle squad. Work for next season!!! Scooterman signing off
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 08, 2009, 11:38:56 AM

Fredonia and Oswego narrow first round ECAC Upstate victims. Freds taken 52-50 by Hartwick after hustling back from double figure deficit in second half.  G. MacBride 10 pts -- all first half, lead Devils. And Oswego early 10 pt. second half lead vanishes in 72-71 loss to St. John Fisher. Reuter's 30 (12x19fg) pace Lakers. Wick over host SJF 69-60 in final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 10, 2009, 12:47:32 AM
You are definitely correct Magicman.  There will not be as many miles on my car next year.   I still will follow teams but not see as many in person.  I agree that Ruiz is in the mix for POY for 2010.  Think Plattsburg will be back too if they can recruit a good point guard. The rest of the team is pretty young and solid. And same holds for you if you ever get to Western NY!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2009, 05:48:38 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 10, 2009, 12:47:32 AM
You are definitely correct Magicman.  There will not be as many miles on my car next year.   I still will follow teams but not see as many in person.  I agree that Ruiz is in the mix for POY for 2010.  Think Plattsburg will be back too if they can recruit a good point guard. The rest of the team is pretty young and solid. And same holds for you if you ever get to Western NY!

with age,
From what I understand we already have one but he missed this year with a knee injury.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 12, 2009, 11:34:21 PM
That could be the piece.  SUNYAC is up for grabs next year. Know Potsdam is losing a lot and I think B-port will be down a little also.  Buffalo St is young and will be tough.  Geneseo losing some talent as well.  Think New Platz if they get back the youngsters who were academically in eligible for 2nd term will be a force also.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2009, 04:00:30 AM
I agree. SUNYAC is wide open next year. New Paltz is the big mystery as you mentioned. With those kids back they're a top 3 team. Really think Plattsburgh will be as well. Buff State is young but they do lose 2 of their best players. Just about everyone else has to reload.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 16, 2009, 04:38:43 PM
Hey guys don't count the Eagles out--Rumor is C. Parrish will return, J. Johnson, J. Zenkel, G. Williams and A. Marchand. That's not a bad nucleus with Tyler Mutton coming in and few others the Eagles will hopefully be reloading for another run. I had to add my two cents--Enjoy the offseason
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 17, 2009, 02:44:17 AM
Hey Scooter - I did not know Parrish may be back.  That would be a huge boost for the Eagles indeed and I think definitely put them in the mix.  Time to suffer through "March Madness" and wait for golf season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 18, 2009, 05:20:06 AM
Congratulations to Scot Morton, First Team All-East Region and Chad Burridge, Rookie of the Year. Here's the complete list.

Men's All-East Region Team
Players were nominated for these awards by the Sports Information Directors at the various schools. All SIDs in the region were given the opportunity to vote.

Player of the Year: Sean Burton, G, Ithaca
Coach of the Year: Jim Mullins, Ithaca
Rookie of the Year: Chad Burridge, F, Oswego State

First team

Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G Sean Burton Ithaca Sr. Yorkville, N.Y.
G Scott Morton Geneseo State Sr. Syracuse, N.Y.
F Mike Chmielowiec Rochester Sr. Batavia, N.Y.
F Sam Simmons RPI Sr. Newburgh, N.Y.
C Mark Carson Rochester Tech Sr. Voorheesville, N.Y.

Second team

Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G Corey McAdam Nazareth Jr. Fairport, N.Y.
G Tom Wopperer St. Lawrence Sr. Manlius, N.Y.
F Ryan McAdam Nazareth Sr. Fairport, N.Y.
F David Golembiowski SUNYIT So. Barneveld, N.Y.
C Jeff Bostic Ithaca Sr. Geneva, N.Y.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Hoops Junkie on May 14, 2009, 12:13:14 PM
Any rumors on who the next coach at Oswego will be
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: the golden flyer on May 28, 2009, 01:04:03 PM
Well another coaching shakeup in the east region as Stockwell from Clarkson takes the Oswego job. Here's the link to the Oswego web site.

http://www.oswego.edu/athletics/news_story.html?id=8262
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on June 05, 2009, 02:45:07 PM
The 'yac lost arguably it's greatest all-time player.

Randy Smith passes at age 60.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jckoo-of6wOL8sTki2JDCnd8kitgD98KKB781

Coincidentally, he passed at the same time the conference was celebrating it's 50th anniversary at a gala outing in Lake Placid.

Was privileged to see him play, just an unbelievable athlete, who had all the physical tools, and skills as well.





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: champster on June 10, 2009, 05:21:42 PM
I agree!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TheNextLevel on June 11, 2009, 10:42:33 AM
A sad day indeed, my condolances to his family.

Quote from: thebear on June 05, 2009, 02:45:07 PM
The 'yac lost arguably it's greatest all-time player.

Randy Smith passes at age 60.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jckoo-of6wOL8sTki2JDCnd8kitgD98KKB781

Coincidentally, he passed at the same time the conference was celebrating it's 50th anniversary at a gala outing in Lake Placid.

Was privileged to see him play, just an unbelievable athlete, who had all the physical tools, and skills as well.






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on June 11, 2009, 07:53:21 PM
In today's SI, there is an article about Randy Smith.  Having played in 906 straight NBA, he had to have been a special player.  To come from a d3 school and achieve this make it more remarkable.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on June 12, 2009, 10:26:37 AM
Actually to clarify, Buff State when Randy Smith played was a "College Division" team.  This was before the D-II/D-III split in 1975.  There were scholarship players at the "College Division" teams, and many of the college division teams from those days are in the marginal (& not so marginal) conferences of today.  For example, Siena was a college division team, but with many scholarship athletes, LeMoyne, & Hartwick were also College Division powerhouses, with rosters loaded with scholarship players.

Just to put things in perspective, The final four that Smith led the Bengals to in 1970 was the equivalent of a combined D-II/D-III national championship.

Still amazing that he was an All-American at any level in three college sports, basketball, soccer, and track & field (he high jumped 6'10 or 6'11 in college.)  What is sad is that he played in the "no dunk" era of college basketball.

The only other person I know of who did this was Jim Brown at Syracuse, who lettered in football, basketball, lacrosse, and track & field, and was national class in all four sports, and arguably the best college lacrosse player of all time, and in my mind, the greatest pro football running back of all time, when you consider the size of the league, and the length of his playing career.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: nybball on June 22, 2009, 08:49:22 AM
Word is that over the weekend, Coach Tom Curle quit Plattsburgh for a job at Marymount in VA.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2009, 12:42:01 PM
Marymount announces its head coach hiring:

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2009/06/28/rogers-named-marymount-mens-coach.html
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on July 10, 2009, 02:10:22 AM
Coach Tom Curle seriously considered the Marymount position but in the end decided to stay at Plattsburgh State. Cardinal fans are relieved and looking forward to this season.                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: doubleaz87 on October 05, 2009, 02:05:54 PM
I wonder who will take the AC this year? Plattsburgh looking good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on October 20, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
As you can see from my name I might be a little bias but what about Fredonia.  The coach of the year     In the Sunyac and they r returning 4 starters that went to the confrence championship.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: champster on October 21, 2009, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: FreddyState on October 20, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
As you can see from my name I might be a little bias but what about Fredonia.  The coach of the year     In the Sunyac

True indeed the Fredonia coach was voted coach of the year. But I would note that that  was somewhat unfair to the coach of Buffalo State (IMHO). I point to..

A - In 07-08 season Fredonia finished 6-10  and qualified for the playoffs.
     In 07-08 Buffalo State finished 5-11  and did not make the playoffs.

B- In 08-09 Fredonia finishes 10-6 and ties for 5th (and makes the playoffs)
    In 08-09 Buffalo State finishes 11-5 ( 6 games turnaround which has not happened in SUNYAC in nearly 6 years) finishes tied for 1st...and yet Fredonia's coach is selected "coach of the year"??

   Mind you "Coach of the year" and SUNYAC conference players are based on the regular season performance only. Votes are submitted prior to the playoffs. 
   Having said that. coupled with the fact that I am biased towards the BENGALS...I would say that the B.S.C. BENGALS should be the team to beat this year in the SUNYAC.
  With 2 starters, Junior-Glenroy Carr and Senior-Antonio Samedi, returning and a seasoned point guard in Sophomore- Norman Simmons, the BENGALS should be a favorite once the smoke clears around the first of Jan! They join Sophomores Ahmed Nagaya and Mark Gross as returning members of the "turnaround" team of 08-09.
    Newcomers Todd Jackson, Jake Simmons (no relation to Norman), Craig Elston, Yuseke Omote and Tyler Eustace add some serious firepower to this years BENGALS.
   A freshman class with the likes of Tyshieme Barfield (Syracuse), Seth Runge (Springfield), Anthony Hamer (New York City) and Justin Mitchell (Buffalo) add some serious BENGALS depth for years to go!

I'M SURE THAT THIS TOPIC WILL BE DEBATED FOR MONTHS TO COME AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING PART OF THIS DEBATE ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on October 21, 2009, 12:12:31 PM
True good argument for Buff state and Buff st coach but Fredonia beat you guys TWICE and by 20 the second time hard to argue with that and hard to justify voting for Ansari over Moore.  But enough about the coaches, I just think Fredonia plays better defense than just about anyone else in the league (ranked 14 in the country in points allowed) and has a playmaker in Cooper to lead a very experienced team that has been within 10 points of being SUNYAC champs.  Its very hard for teams to play Fredonia's style of play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: doubleaz87 on October 27, 2009, 02:48:56 PM
Cooper is a hell of a talent, but again Chris Ruiz is looking like he might be the best player in the league. Last year he had games of 41 and 39 in the same week. Sadly I'm very worried about my Potsdam Bears as we only have one player on the roster over 6'5" in Tom Kelso (who might be the biggest hot head in the conference >:() and word on the street is Kelso might not even play this year because of legal problems.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on October 30, 2009, 12:13:19 PM

For starters .....

Brockport with Nov. 15 date at St. Lawrence. Eagles in 20-21 UR tourney. As usual early home games rare. None the first semester

Buffalo State lifts off 20-21 with its Coles Classic. Draws Pitt-Bradford. Naz faces Marietta. Bengals have 12/9 game vs. Point Park. Erstwhile BSer J. tyndal with showtime's Harlem Wizards

Cortland opens in 20-21 Williams tourney vs. Lasell (MA) whose ambitious Lazers tackle host Brandeis on the 17th

Fredonia launches at Elmira on 15th

Geneseo goes the 17th at Medaille. Knights spend New Year's in Washington state

New Paltz tips 18th at Mount St. Mary. NP tourney 20-21

Oneonta underway 20-21 at Muhlenberg tourney. Has December trip to Orlando and match vs. IT

Oswego and new coach A. Stockwell taps vs. Utica on 17th, then has own M. Ziel tourney on 20-21 vs. NJ City

Plattsburgh ignition on the 15th vs. Lyndon St.. Cardinal Classic on 21-22. Ex-Card C. Arterberry inks with Elmira Bulldogs of Eastern Basketball Alliance -- coached by one D. Rodman. Yes, that D. Rodman

Potsdam opposing host Utica on the 15th
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bmull on November 01, 2009, 06:01:01 PM
SIDs and coaches:      How about some 09-10 SUNYAC rosters, please - make the wait fun for the fans.  Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on November 03, 2009, 04:06:55 PM
wow The SUNYAC is really up for grabs this year.  Only 2 non-seniors on last years 1st and 2nd teams.  Anybody have any predictions?  Plattsburgh def has the best player in Ruiz but that doesn't really mean wins.  Geneseo, Cortland, and Oneonta should all be in the mix just because they come to play every night and have good discipline.  Fredonia has four startes back and a big that sat out last year.  Buff St. will be athletic and prolly have the most actual talent in the league but again that doesnt always mean wins.  Oswego has a good big in Burridge but they lost two first teamers and a crap ton of points in Reuter and Downey.  The defending champs, Brockport, loose like 6 or 7 seniors.  It seems like Potsdam is still rebuilding and lost their best player.  Who knows who will be eligible and for how long at New Paltz.  Anybody have any more insight?  Disagree?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopsfan90 on November 09, 2009, 04:59:48 PM
Word from Norfolk VA. New Paltz went down to play an exhibition game against D1 Norfolk State Saturday Nov 7 and were in the lead for most of the game. With about 5 minutes left in the game Norfolk took the lead and wound up winning 101-89.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Thunder on November 10, 2009, 12:32:07 PM
Potsdam 71   Algonquin College  74

Great Game start to finish. Potsdam is an undersized team that plays tough d and goes to the Boards strong. First win for Algonquin against Potsdam in 13 years. As we say in Canada "Sun has to shine on a dogs a** once in a while."
Last win was against Bill Mitchell's Potsdam team 47-45. Next win should be in 2023. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 11, 2009, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: FreddyState on October 21, 2009, 12:12:31 PM
True good argument for Buff state and Buff st coach but Fredonia beat you guys TWICE and by 20 the second time hard to argue with that and hard to justify voting for Ansari over Moore. 

If the "Coach of the year" goes to whomever wins the most games between Buffalo State and Fredonia..then yes Moore is a the guy. With that logic then yes it's "hard to justify voting for Ansari over Moore". Heck if the only criteria is how a coach/team did against Fredonia then the Brockport Coach should have been "Coach of the year" because Brockport beat Fredonia 3 times   this past season by 5, 19 and 20 points. Fortunatly for Moore, that's not the standard ( head to head vs Brockport) by which the SUNYAC  judges "Coach of the year candidates". Fredonia vs. Buffalo State should not be anymore of a standard for Coach of the Year than Brockport vs Fredonia!
  Fortunatly  ???   the "Coach of the year"  (from what I have been told) goes to the coach who had a great regular season and/or turned around a program in that season. Clearly Buffalo State went  from worse (out of the playoffs - 08) to first (tied for first in the SUNYAC at the end of the regular season-09). I too agree that Ansari should have been the guy.

Having said that, coupled with the fact that the 09-10 season is upon us, I too am excited about what the SUNYAC looks like this year! It should be 1 of the most competitive conferences in D-3 basketball!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 12, 2009, 01:28:12 PM
SUNYAC PREDICTIONS anyone?????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bmull on November 12, 2009, 09:40:58 PM
Cortland roster finally up - 5 frosh listed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on November 14, 2009, 01:22:41 AM
1. Cortland - Lewis, Oliver, Evans, and Coston
2. Fredonia - Cooper, Saunders, Bryant, and Mitchell
3. Oneonta - Beckford and Grimes
4.  Geneseo - Simpson, Hoy, Stevens and Blair
5. Plattsburgh - Ruiz, Daniyan, Tangney and Ponesse
6. Buffalo St. - Carr and Samedi
7. New Paltz - Taylor, Anderson, Wichard and Agyemang
8. Oswego - Burridge, Francois, and Monahgan
9. Brockport - Johnson and Marchand
10. Potsdam - Williams, Cross and Kelso

These are my predictions for the 2009-2010 season!!! I can't wait!!! Please let me know what you think put some votes in or put your own predictions in.  These are just based on returning players because thats all we can go on now, no one knows what JUCOs or Freshman are gonna have an impact.  I think Plattsburgh, Buff. St. and New Paltz are all wild cards this year and interchangeable.  We will just have to see I guess!!!

I also have a player to watch this year - James Kane (Fredonia State).  This kid is a good big man with a never ending motor who sat out last year and could have a solid impact on 2009-2010 season.  Avg. 5.7 pts. and 4 reb. in only 14 minutes in 2007-08. (Sitting out first game at Elmira but will be back after that). 

Let me know if there are any other players to watch this year..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on November 14, 2009, 01:51:35 AM
Oh and Bengalsrule I think you missunderstood my post I was saying if it came down to Ansari or Moore you have to go Moore because of head to head.  I was'nt saying that you go with the most wins over a team or best record.  I def. agree with the coach of the year should have a good turn around but if the other team with a good turn around beat you twice then you have to give it to that guy.  And I am guessing that is why the coaches voted Moore or maybe they just respect him and his players more IDK the coaches vote so you are just going to ask them but thats my final comment on coach of the year.  Check out my preseason predictions see what you think.  Give me some feedback.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 14, 2009, 07:04:21 AM
I have hard time believing that Potsdam is the worst team in the SUNYAC!  Bear do you have any insight?  New Paltz will be a team to challenge for the top if they can stay eligible.  I guess this is the year that Fredonia becomes a D3 power house.  I think will should play the games and see what happens.
Title: Re: MBB: SUNYAC - Potsdam frosh
Post by: bmull on November 14, 2009, 01:08:48 PM
Always hard to tell with frosh but Potsdam's Pierce and Lambert both had good NYC public school PSAL careers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on November 14, 2009, 02:23:21 PM
I am not saying Fredonia is going to be a D3 powerhouse I am just saying they should have a pretty good year this year (its just a preseason poll) and you are right we will just have to see what happens.  I am just excited  ;).  What are your guys predictions??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2009, 04:14:31 PM
Plattsburgh State opened their season today with a 103-81 win against Lyndon State. Plattsburgh came out firing and opened up a 22-5 lead 5 minutes into the game. They extended it to 34-12 at the 10:30 mark and went into the break up 52-35. Coach Curle substituted often with 11 different players seeing action in the 1st half. Lyndon State tried to make a comeback during the 1st part of the 2nd period and closed the gap to 12 pts, but the Cardinals led by junior college transfer Steve Thomas, Errol Daniyan, and Chris Ruiz extended the lead back up to 20 and coasted to the victory. Thomas, Daniyan, Ruiz, Carl Munnerlyn, (another Juco transfer), Josh Bruno, and Dan Tangney all scored in double figures to pace the Cardinal attack. Plattsburgh next takes on the Elms College Blazers on Wednesday Nov. 18th at Elms, and then comes home for the Cardinal Classic on Sat. and Sun. Nov. 21st and 22nd. Husson University takes on RIT in the 1st game at 6:00 followed by Plattsburgh St. against Norwich at 8:00. The losers meet in the consolation game at 1 PM on Sun. followed by the Championship game at 3PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on November 15, 2009, 04:50:36 PM
Have to agree with Bear Nation. I'm not exactly disagreeing with Freddy State's prediction; I have no clue where teams will wind up at the end of the season. But Potsdam men's basketball finishing last, in my mind, would be a sign of the impending Apocalypse. I might have to start wearing a sandwich board saying THE END IS NIGH!

Out of curiosity, has Potsdam EVER finished the season with the worst record in the SUNYAC? I have a feeling it might be a first, or at least the first time in the ~30 years since I was a student. If they should happen to finish in the cellar this season this Potsdam alum will be very, very sad.

Hope to catch the Bears when they visit the Rochester area in January (weather permitting). Good luck to all the teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2009, 06:08:22 PM
Fredonia St. falls to Elmira 83-77. Don't think FreddyState saw that one coming. Is Elmira that good? Or are the Blue Devils overrated?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2009, 06:12:36 PM
With Potsdam State falling to Utica College 71-62 the Yac is quickly 0-2 against the E8. Hope that's not a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 15, 2009, 07:14:24 PM
Scooterman is checking in from sunny Florida. Rumor has it my beloved Eagles opened up the season with a big win up in St. Lawrence. I haven't seen much info about the Eagles, and someone picked them for 9th in the SUNYAC's. Don't sleep on my Eagles because they come to play every night and know how to win. Maybe not many "Players to Watch" list; but a bunch of guys who want to win and will be successful through their effort each time they hit the floor. Congrats to Coach Dunne and his staff for getting the Eagles rolling. Good luck!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2009, 09:41:42 PM
Quote from: scooterman on November 15, 2009, 07:14:24 PM
Scooterman is checking in from sunny Florida. Rumor has it my beloved Eagles opened up the season with a big win up in St. Lawrence. I haven't seen much info about the Eagles, and someone picked them for 9th in the SUNYAC's. Don't sleep on my Eagles because they come to play every night and know how to win. Maybe not many "Players to Watch" list; but a bunch of guys who want to win and will be successful through their effort each time they hit the floor. Congrats to Coach Dunne and his staff for getting the Eagles rolling. Good luck!!!!

Hey scooterman glad to see you're back. And yes, your Eagles did have a good opener today against the Saints. 5 guards for Port all scored in double figures. Eagles don't appear to have much height this year but that didn't hold them back today. Looks like from the box score the Eagles had 1 guy 6'4"  Melquan Trotter play a total of 10 mins. and another big 6'5" Zack McTigue play 2 mins. Everyone else was a guard. 5'10" Josh Zenkel led the Eagles with 15 pts, 6 reb, and 5 assists. 6 ft Jermaine Johnson had 13 pts, 5'8" Andy Marchand scored 12 pts, 6 ft. Francisco Lantigua had 11 pts with 7 boards and 6'2" Greg Schiefen also had 11 pts. 2 other guards had 6 pts and 5 pts leaving a grand total of 2 pts for your big men. Eagles were down 1 69-68 with 1:33 left to play when Johnson hit a 3 with 1:14 left to put Port up 71-69. SLU came down and missed a 3 and fouled Zenkel who hit both FT's with 24 sec. left. SLU then turned it over and fouled Zenker again. He hit 1 of 2 to make it 74-69. SLU hit a 3 to make it 74-72, fouled Zenker again who made 1 of 2 and SLU missed a 3 at the buzzer that would have sent it to OT. Final score was 75-72

Nice win for Brockport to start the season. Saints lost a few key players from last year's NCAA team but did have 6 of their top 8 returning.  I would have picked them to win this game today. SLU comes to Plattsburgh on Dec. 1st so I'll get to see them in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on November 16, 2009, 10:53:38 AM
Wow Fredonia really blew it last night.  Didn't play any defense and gave up 83 points and 15 three pointers.  To their defense they do have 3 starters out with injury and suspensions but still.  Hopefully they will be 100% by the time sunyac play comes around.  or else all that talking up I did is gonna make me look real stupid hahaha.

(Cooper did play could however for Fredonia 17 pts. and 9 assists)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on November 16, 2009, 11:20:19 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2009, 06:08:22 PM
Fredonia St. falls to Elmira 83-77. Don't think FreddyState saw that one coming. Is Elmira that good? Or are the Blue Devils overrated?

My guess is Fredonia blew it.  Elmira returned everyone from last year....but from a team that went 4-21!  They did beat Cortland last year and had some promising pieces - Dipiazza? and a solid big that was a tough player but nothing too special.  They should get around 8-10 wins but nothing more than that.  I don't know Fredonia at all but my guess is that was a bad loss but nothing to clean house over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2009, 11:41:04 AM

Cortland opening tonight at home vs. Elmira, whose Eagles soared over Fredonia on the weekend. An earlier post of ours had CState starting ithis Fri/Sat at William tourney.
From afar (FL) we see eight returnees including strong front line of M. Lewis, P. Oliver, C. Milke;  athletic guard in W. Coston, shooter R. Evans plus Manning brothers and N. Sutedjo. Subtracted versatile all star C. Niehoff through graduation. Of frosh handful, four are guards and fifth a slender 6-8 center. Then there's 6-4, 235 sr B. Nagle, a former Dragon football stalwart, and 6-3, 185 sr f C. Vincent from Baldwinsville. Good floor general  seems essential for CState to step up. Certainly missed that force last season with basically same cast (that had leadership at the point) that surprised in '07-08
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2009, 08:52:08 PM

So much for Cortland's veteran look. At least thru first half of 45-38 lead over Elmira. Frosh guards Jesse Winter (Rockville Centre) and Jeff LaMont (Hannibal) in starting cast and lead 3-pt 7x13 barrage. LaMont hits 4x8, Winter 1x1. Two other frosh guards -- Jeremy Smith (Bronx) and Harrison Heffle (Greenlawn), also in action. Addition Dustin Marshall (Newfield) another backcourt find with 8 pts, 4 rebs. B. Nagle, P. Oliver, R. Evans also start. M. Lewis off bench. No W. Coston
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2009, 09:55:35 PM

New look Cortland routs Elmira 87-67 with an eye-catching backcourt performance. Fr J. LaMont nets 21 pts(7x13fg, 5x11 3s) in 21'. Transfer D. Marshall has 15 pts(5x9fg, 1x1 3), 7 rebs in 22'; J. Winter 8 pts(3x5fg, 2x2 3s) in 21'; J. Smith 9 pts(3x5fg, 2x2 3s). P. Oliver rules inside with 15 pts, 8 rebs in 28'; M. Lewis 12 rebs in 23'. CSt 29x58fg, 11x22 3s, 18x23ft, 43 rebs. Elmira 24x62fg. B. DiPiazzo 14 pts(3x7 3s), J. Anderson 12 pts, D. Nelson 11 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2009, 11:04:45 AM

Oswego and Geneseo not as fortunate as CState in season starts. Oswego loses at home to Utica 82-71, Geneseo absorbs 83-77 licking vs. Medaille

Oswego down 37-35 at half and fades behind UC 16x29fg second half. Lakers 3x24 3s. C. Burridge 25 pts(9x15fg), 4pf in 24'; R. Sheridan 10 pts(3x11fg), 9 rebs; fr H. Ward 10 pts, 11 reb. OSt 49-43 reb edge. UC's P. Goodman 27 pts(12x21fg, 2x4 3s), 14 rebs in 34'.  J. Patterson 11 pts, 9 asts in 37'; W. Abrams 15 pts in 35'

Geneseo down 44-35 at half.  Finishes 31x58fg, 9x18 3s. Free throwing a difference: Gens 6x10, Meds 22x27. Knight B. Simpson 20 pts(10x14fg), 6 rebs; J. Segarra 12 pts(4x6 3s); M. Hoy 12 pts, K. Stevens 12 pts and 6 of Gens 24 assts. Meds K.Hack 19 pts(4x8 3s); R. Malicki 17 pts(11x12ft) off bench. Victors 27x54fg

Tonight: Plattsburgh at Elms, New Paltz at Mount St. Mary
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2009, 10:10:36 PM

Plattsburgh falls at Elms 86-72

New Paltz rallies past Mount St. Mary 60-56 on the road
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2009, 10:30:28 PM
Plattsburgh down by 10 at the half against Elms and it only got worse as the Blazers stretched their lead to 23 midway through the 2nd half.  86-72 final. Steve Thomas once again led the Cardinal with a double -double of 16 pts (5x9 fg 6x6ft) and 11 rebounds. Errol Daniyan also with 16 pts (5x8 fg 6x8 ft) and 8 boards. Cards only 1 for 13 beyond the arc also had 24 turnovers. Elms is a decent team picked to win their league but the Cardinals didn't play to their abilities tonight. Should have been much closer.

Cardinals host their annual Cardinal Classic this weekend on Sat. and Sun.
RIT vs Husson  6 PM Sat. Nov.21st
Norwich vs Plattsburgh ST. 8 PM Sat.

Third Place game 1 PM Sun. Nov 22nd
Championship game 3 PM Sun.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2009, 11:23:35 PM

New Paltz' H. Wichard nails 3-pters at 1:02 and 0:20 to beat Mount St. Mary which led 55-45 at 7:11. Twas 56-52 when Wichard connected. M. Devine ft pair finalized margin. Match square at 23 at half. Hawks 21x51fg, 6x18 3s. S. Taylor 21 pts(7x14fg), 6 reb; J. Anderson 10 pts(5x6fg)

Pburgh's C. Ruiz 8 pts(3x11fg), 7 trnvrs in 22'

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2009, 02:36:39 AM
Fredonia State drops to 0-2 as they fall at Penn State-Behrend 69-65, despite shooting an amazing 83.3% from the field in the 2nd half(15x18, 2x2 3's). The Blue Devils weren't too shabby in the 1st half as well  as  they  shot  57.9% (11x19,6x12 3's). Their fg totals for the game were 26x37, a 70.3% with 8x14 from behind the arc. (57.1%). They held a 30-26 halftime lead but lost the game at the charity stripe as they were whistled for 22 fouls to only 13 for Behrend. For the game the Blue Devils were 5x7 from the line while Behrend was 16 for 19 from the foul line(14x16 in the 2nd half). Brad Cooper led the Blue Devils with 16 pts(6x7fg,2x3 3's 2x2ft), 6rebounds and 5 assists. Amir Billups added 12 pts on 5x6 fg, 2x3 3's. Kyle Mitchell was 4x6 fg, for 9pts and James Kane was 3x4 fg with 8 pts. Chris Saltzman from Behrend led all scorers with 31 pts on 12x19 fg 2x3 3's 5x7 ft. No other Behrend player was in double figures.

Hope those 3 starters that FreddyState said were out come back real soon because
it won't get any easier for the Blue Devils as they next travel to Davidson N.C. to take on the Division I Davidson Wildcats. Wow!!!! GOOD LUCK GUYS. Win a big one for the YAC. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 19, 2009, 08:32:12 AM
Magic and Jdex--From what has transpired this early in the season---What are your predictions for the SUNYAC?--I would love to hear your thoughts--Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 19, 2009, 10:34:31 PM
I don't know much about the Golden Eagles team, can someone give me a quick rundown?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2009, 04:25:08 PM
Brockport sinks Tufts 60-55 in UR Palestra fest. Next meets Green Mountain in preset pairings. Eagles 30-21 at half. J. Johnson 20 pts(7x16fg), 3 stls in 30'; B. Williams 12 pts(2x4 3s); J. Zenkel 11 pts (3x5 3s). Just 11 turnovers, shoot 21x48fg, 8x23 3s, 10x16ft, outboarded 41-23 with no Port player more than 3. Tufts 17x48fg, 4x17 3s, 17x23ft in opener. Bport 2-0

Eagles essentially lost top six players from last season, but starters somewhat seasoned including seniors Williams, Zenkel, Johnson. New to that alignment is 6-0, 205 jr swingman F. Lantigua. Extremely guard oriented. Tallest Eagles 6-4 frosh M. Trotter
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2009, 06:11:22 PM
Some thoughts ....

Buffalo St. of unknown quality heading into tonight's opener vs. Pitt-Bradford in BS tourney that includes Naz/Marietta. Few Bengal names recognizable from '08-09. Exceptions are proven 6-7, 225 A. Samedi, the lone senior, along with 6-6 jr G. Carr and soph guard N. Simmons.

Geneseo highlight reel from last season -- Morton, now playing in England. Lack of his and J. Howe presence quite evident in first game fall. B. Simpson at 6-6 carries heavy load as sr. along with classmate K. Stevens, and 6-2 soph guard M. Hoy whose fr. brother joins Knights. Help might come from 6-3 jr. guard J. Scott, transfer from LIU.

Oswego new coach A. Stockwell had rough debut but should fare well in less than crack YAC. Will rely on 6-7 C. Burridge, last year's rookie of the year. S. Francois a major plus. Couple of fr. to watch: 6-7 B. Nollet and 5-9 H. Ward. Lakers with 10 sophs. Play NJ City U. tonight in OSt tourney after Megar Evers/Morrisville

Plattsburgh a contender with 6-4 jr. C. Ruiz and 6-6 E. Daniyan solid returnees. S. Thomas a jr. out of the gate quickly, and K. Brooks returns following top assist role as fr. JC  transfer C. Munnerlyn a quick study in this program which also has 6-10 260 jr. RJ Ponesse. D. Tangnoy a sr 6-4, 210 regular. Cards host Norwich on Saturday

Cortland slide from grace last season could quickly be forgotten. Powerful returning frontline in 6-6s M. Lewis and P. Oliver have been joined by cast of new shooting guards including J. LaMont, J. Winter and Alfred St. transfer D. Marshall. Much needed firepower showed in opener. Also have vet guard R. Evans. Former starter W. Coston a sr. missing from opener. Ex-sturdy footballer B. Nagle an instant contributor. Dragons vs. Lasell tonight at Williams tourney (Williams/So. Vt)

New Paltz soph veteran trio of H. Wichard, S. Taylor and J. Anderson boosted Hawks to opening win. Taylor and Anderson pair of 6-7s. Believe that win ended 12 game skid at end of last winter. Not with NP for what was expected to be sr seasons are L. Bertram and C. Cornine. Quality assister O. Agyemang on roster but has yet to see action. NP tourney opens tonight vs. St. Joe's (LI) after Bridgewater St./Lehman clash

Oneonta starts tonight vs. tourney host Muhlenberg (Moravian/Wm Paterson). M. Grimes a four year sr. key at 6-4 and partners with 6-9 sr B. Beckford as tough duo. Third year jr S. Gillette fills backcourt slot. Talbot a 6-1 jr. vet. Roster lists several first year juniors and pair of 6-7 fr. Erstwhile Dragon S. Coffey playing in Ireland.

Potsdam puzzle needs to replace many key pieces, departed D. Brown and A. Dike in particular. Sr. A. Williams a sr. swing player with much potential. Jr. E. Cross returns with guard O. Minott, and soph pivot T. Kelso after 7.6 pt., 6.2 reb norms last season. Much expected of FL jr transfer B. Walker. From NYC solid prep play comes J. Lambert. Bears at Clarkson on Saturday

Fredonia's B. Cooper a marked man after whiz of an '08-09. Devils awaiting return of reputed 6-4 jr. J. Bryant and 6-4 sr S. Valenta, plus 6-2 soph S. Doanhue. Cooper's fellow captain K. Saunders, a double digit scorer last season, has been used sparingly so far for whatever. New is 6-5 sr J. Kane; other holdovers J. Herrera, 6-3 sr swing player G. MacBride, A. Billups, K. Mitchell and L. Smith.

See above post for Brockport .......

And the winner is ..............we won't go there, but we still wear Cortland red and white. League a little down?? Perhaps a bit more than that. See some good competition. Outside play thus far has generally failed to impress ........and you?




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2009, 08:32:42 PM
Cortland St. over Lasell 84-73 in the 1st game of the Williams Invitational. Williams takes on Southern Vermont for the right to face the Red Dragons in tomorrow's Championship game. I expect that will probably be the matchup. Be interesting to see how Cortland fares against one of the better teams in the NESCAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on November 20, 2009, 09:07:25 PM
Williams Southern Vt. is a 3 point game at half!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2009, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: hopefan on November 20, 2009, 09:07:25 PM
Williams Southern Vt. is a 3 point game at half!!!!!

Williams now up by 20 with 9 mins. to go 76-56
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2009, 10:09:35 PM
Oneonta corrals Muhlenberg's Mules 72-58. Up 40-35 at half. Tied at 46 with 15:36 left. B. Beckford hoop puts Dragons up for good at 13:52. B. Hooks 19 pts(6x12 3s); Gillette 11 pts; Beckford 10 pts; M. Grimes 8 pts, 9 rebs; K. Walsh 10 pts; Talbot 7 assts. OSt vs. Wm Paterson (75-45 over Moravian)

Cortland hits 31x58fg, 4x12 3s, 18x25ft. CSt 35-29 at intermission but knotted at 49 till M. Lewis layup unlocks. Extends to 10 but Lasell closes to five late. D. Marshall, J. Winters ft clinch. Both frosh. P. Oliver 18 pts(8x11fg), 11 reb; Winter 17 pts(4x7fg, 9x13ft), 5 assts; Lewis 14 pts(7x12fg), 8 reb; J. LaMont 11 pts; Marshall 10 pts(3x5fg, 2x3 3s). Lasell 29x63fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2009, 10:41:19 PM
Buffalo St., without A. Samedi, rides 45 pts. from Simmons boys of Rochester to 81-69 beating of Pitt-Bradford. Bengals tackle Naz (95-67 trouncing of Marietta) in final. Fr Jake Simmons with 27 pts(12x23fg, 5x12 3s) in 30'; soph Norm Simmons 18 pts(8x12fg), 8 rebs, 4 assts in 32'; T.O. Jackson 12 pts(6x9fg), 10 rebs. BS 33x69fg

Bridgewater over Lehman 68-56 in New Paltz tourney opener
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2009, 10:55:42 PM
New Paltz tumbles to St. Joe's (LI) 84-80 and takes on Lehman in NP tourney consi

Oswego gets final nod by holding off Jersey City U. 69-65. Lakers to meet Medgar Evers (62-48 over Morrisville). O'State takes 39-33 lead at half and builds double figure edge. Jerseys within pair at 5:37 and one at 1:19. C. Burridge 20 pts(8x10fg), C. Monaghan 4 assts, 3 stls; fr. B. Nollet 10 pts, 4pf in 20'; fr. H. Ward 17 rebs, 4pf in 23'. Oswego 44-19 board dominance
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2009, 05:10:28 PM
Brockport State moves to 3-0 on the year with a 63-50 win over Green Mountain. Jermaine Johnson scored 15 of his team high 17 points in the 2nd half to lead the Golden Eagles. Francisco Lantigua added 10 pts and 6 boards and Gerald Williams also reached double figures with 10 pts. Brandon Williams had a good all around game with 9 pts, 5 assists,. and 4 steals.
Brockport was down 34-28 at the half, got to within 1 around the 10 min. mark at 46-45,  and then used a 3 pointer by Greg Schiefen to spark a 12-0 run over the next 5 mins. to put away the Vermont Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2009, 05:15:20 PM
Cortland State down 46-37 at the half against Williams. Hope the Red Dragons can come back and pull this one out.

Amherst handled Ithaca College pretty easily today winning by 25, 92-67. We need a NY split with the boys from NESCAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2009, 06:07:37 PM
Wow!! Cortland drops 72-68 title game to host Williams after overcoming 54-39 deficit. RDragons on D. Marshall hoop grab 63-62 lead at 4:02. Williams gets reversal at ft line and holds on from there in wild finish. Blake Schultz of Ephs finishes with 29 pts including 12x16 ft and many clutch throws at end. Cortland's R. Evans with 26 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2009, 06:41:43 PM
Oswego captures Ziel title with 80-54 lacing of Medgar Evers

Cortland down at half as Ephs of Williams go torrid 19x28fg to Dragons 14x28. CState suffers early second period blow when P. Oliver gets fourth pf after 90 seconds and fouls out with about 11:30 left. R. Evans and D. Marshall pace comeback from 54-39 hole at 15:28 to 57-51 at 10:24. On fr J. Winiter jumper at 5:13 it's 62-61 Ephs before Marshall layup at 4:02 gives Dragons 63-62 edge. Ephs get lead for good at 3:58 from ft stripe and B. Schultz takes them home, though Cortland shows resiliency. Evans connects to make it 66-65 at 0:21. CSt misses tying trey at 0:09. Winter trey at 0:03 gets within 70-68. Schultz caps 12x16ft, 29 pt(8x16fg) performance from line at 0:02.
Evans notches his 26 pts on 10x18fg, 4x9 3s in 34'. Marshall has 13 pts(5x11fg, 3x6 3s). Winter nets 9 pts, Oliver 8 pts, 3 reb in 15'. CSt 28x58fg, 9x24 3s, 3x9ft. Ephs win at ft line -- 21x31. Go 23x50fg, 5x11 3s. Corts with 37-29 reb margin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2009, 09:43:57 PM
Oswego rout paced by C. Burridge 22 pts(7x16fg, 7x8ft), 5 reb, 5 assts, 3 blks in 26'; C. Gilkes 14 pts(7x14fg), 8 reb in 17'; C. Monaghan 11 pts(4x4fg, 3x3 3s) in 18'; R. Sheridan 5 assts; S. Francois 10 rebs, 9 pts in 22'. Lakers 43-20 at half, shoot 27x73fg overall with 63 reb. Overmatched ME 20x70fg

Buffalo State slips to Nazareth 72-61 in BS tourney final. Naz C. McAdam 18 pts and mvp to lead five Flyers in double figures. Bengals ahead 34-33 at half. G. Carr 13 pts; J. Simmons 12 pts; N. Simmons 9 pts, 8 rebs, 3 stls. Latter duo all-tourney. BS 21x52fg, 0x8 3s and 27 of game's 49 pf. Consi to Marietta over Pitt-Bradford 70-54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2009, 10:16:01 PM
Oneonta captures Muhlenberg tourney with 56-53 win over William Paterson, breaking 53-all tie on B. Beckford hoop at 3:47. M. Grimes adds final point at 0:09. RDragons down 33-31 midway. Second half tight although OSt enjoys 7 pt lead at one stage. Grimes 16 pts(6x10fg), 6 rebs; B. Hooks 13 pts(5x6fg, 3x4 3s), Beckford 10 pts, 9 rebs. Dragons 21x41fg, 6x15 3s, 8x12ft and 33-22 reb advantage. Jerseys 20x53fg, 4x18 3s, 9x11ft. Consi to hosts 66-52 over Moravian

Plattsburgh advances to its tourney's championship game in 77-66 halting of Noriwch. Will meet Husson (75-67 over RIT) on Sunday afternoon. Cards led by E. Daniyan 22 pts(10x16fg), 12 reb in 23'. Ahead 37-29 at half and build to 20 pt gap at 5:50. S. Thomas 16 pts(5x7fg) in 37'; C. Ruiz 13 pts(6x15fg) in 24'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2009, 10:18:35 PM
Host Plattsburgh St. downs the Norwich Cadets 77-66 to advance to the title game of the Cardinal Classic. The Cards will meet the Husson University Eagles who defeated RIT in the evenings 1st game 75-67.


Potsdam State drops one sided decision to Clarkson 83-62.  Knights open up 32-8 lead after 11 minutes and coast to 52-19 halftime advantage. It marked Clarkson's largest margin of victory in the history of the rivalry. Anthony Williams came off the bench to lead the Bears with 14 pts and 8 rebounds. Curtis Pearce and Olando Minott both scored in double figures with 12 and 10 pts respectively. Elson Pickering led the Golden Knights.

Plattsburgh State will try and salvage some SUNYAC pride next week when they travel to Clarkson on Sunday, Nov. 29th and then host SLU on Tuesday Dec 1st 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2009, 05:31:24 PM
Host Plattsburgh State wins their Cardinal Classic with a narrow 72-70 victory over the Husson University Eagles.

Norwich nipped RIT in overtime 81-80 to win the consolation gam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2009, 06:19:03 PM
Errol Daniyan hit 2 clutch free throws with 24 seconds left to play to give Plattsburgh State a 4 pt lead at 72-68. Husson's Joshua Jones hit a bucket to bring Husson within 2 and the Eagles fouled with 9 seconds remaining. Plattsburgh missed the front end of a 1&1 giving Husson 1 last chance. Cards pressure prevents a good look and Eagles game tying attempt not close. Daniyan finished with 20 pts on 9x13 fg 2x3 ft with 7 boards and was chosen as the tournament's MVP. Chris Ruiz also scored 20 pts on 8x18 fg 1x5 3's 3x4 ft and 5 boards. Steve Thomas hit double figures with 14 pts 4 rebounds and 4 assists. Dan Tangney had a good game with 5 pts, 7 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals. Husson's Jones led the Eagles with 20 pts, 16 rebounds and 3 blocks. Also in double figures for Husson was Matt Mackenzie with 19 and Brock Bradford with 18.

Cards managed to forge ahead by 10 with 4:50 left in the 1st half at 35-25 but Husson closed to within 6 39-33 at the break. Eagles narrowed the gap to 1 at 52-51 with 11 mins left to play but the Cards went on a 10-1 tear capped by a Thomas 3 pointer to equal their largest lead at 62-52. with 6:18 remaining. But the Eagles refused to go away and 2 ft's by Bradford tied the score at 66 with 1:53 left. 2 buckets inside by Ruiz and Daniyan's 2 free throws finished the scoring for the Cards.
Plattsburgh now off for a week and then travels to Clarkson for a Sunday Nov. 29th contest.

RIT wasted a 37 pt effort by Scott Young to fall to the Cadets from Norwich 81-80 in overtime. Young was 13 for 17 from the field, with 9 three pointers.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 24, 2009, 09:37:58 PM

Brockport bows to Fisher 78-61. SJF pulls away with 70 percent fg shooting after holding 35-29 halftime lead. Bport's B. Williams 13 pts, G. Williams 11. SJF soph J. Gettings 18 pts leads handful of double figure pointmen

New Paltz goes down 97-82 to SUNYIT

Geneseo loses 70-58 to Hobart
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2009, 09:50:30 PM
Oneonta St squeaks past Ithaca 85-83 to stretch their record to 3-0
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 24, 2009, 09:59:39 PM

Yeah, Oneonta trailing 81-71 with 3:56 left!! Wins on T. Talbot hoop at 0:04. Talbot (18 pts), B. Beckford (22 pts), M. Grimes (16 pts) pace comeback. Talbot gives RDragons 83-82 edge at 0:29. IC's J. Marcus (20 pts) knots it on ft at 0:28. IC by 41-38 at half. Bombers C. Cruz-Rivas has 18 pts, three others with 10
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 24, 2009, 10:11:13 PM

Could this be a Red Dragons chase for the crown, as in Oneonta and Cortland? If still aboard, SUNYIT would qualify as a top contender. ITers coming off win over Utica College to thwart New Paltz, which falls despite 30x55fg and hefty games from J. Anderson (18 pts, 8x12fg), R. Sawyer (15 pts), S. Taylor (14 pts, 3 blks, 3 assts, 3 stls), O. Agyemang (8 assts). IT jr D. Golembiowski, who just reached 1,000 career pts, noted 30. Winners in 48-39 halftime lead

Geneseo beaten badly, down 35-22 at the break and by 26 later. K. Stevens 11 pts, 11 rebs; B. Simpson 11 pts, 7 rebs; J. Scott 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2009, 11:39:33 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 24, 2009, 10:11:13 PM

Could this be a Red Dragons chase for the crown, as in Oneonta and Cortland?

jdex
I definitely think that both Red Dragons will be in the hunt all year long. Plattsburgh State also merits strong consideration. Cardinals Chris Ruiz and Errol Daniyan now have a 3rd option on the team with the addition of Jr transfer Steve Thomas. Thomas, is a very athletic 6'2" shooting guard that can leap, drive to the hoop, and dish off.  After 4 games he's averaging 17.5 ppg, 7 rpg, and 3.2 assists. He also leads the team in minutes with 33 per game. Team has decent depth, and options at the point with newcomer, Jr Carl Munnerlyn. (8.0 ppg) Cards dropped a lot  of games last year in final  minutes of play. This year they will win most of those close ones I believe.

  Through games of 11-24
  SUNYAC record vs. Empire 8 now stands at 2-5
  SUNYAC record vs Liberty League now stands at 1-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 25, 2009, 11:16:04 AM
Concur, Your Magicness, the red Cardinal certainly in same breath with those other red types, and we'll throw in Oswego, Brockport and perhaps Buff State as being there, or just a step off. The  four others -- Geneseo, New Paltz, Fredonia and Potsdam have a way to go off early showings. And of that group keep an eye on NP. But overall it appears SUNYAC has some catching up to do with other top East circuits
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2009, 11:55:14 PM
Fredonia St. plays with the big boys and drops a 78-37 contest to the Divsion I Davidson Wildcats. Blue Devils Brad Cooper only Freds player in double figures with 10. Only down 32-20 at the break. The Wildcats turned up the heat, outscoring the Blue Devils 46- 17 in the 2nd half. Fredonia only shot 14x43 from the field and got out rebounded 45-24. At least they got to play in front of 3500 people. Blue Devils will look to break into the win column in their next game on Dec.1st at Houghton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2009, 11:32:57 AM

Bear, question posed on another board and we, too, curious. Not to knock the stuffing out of you on this post T'day buffet but what's up with the Bears? We say UP. Apparently have become even smaller. Holdover T. Kelson at 6-7 had been listed on roster, isn't now. Things going south in north country?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2009, 07:00:32 PM
Plattsburgh State has a big lead against Clarkson 51-26 at halftime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2009, 07:38:03 PM
New Paltz State squeaks by Keene State 110-109 in double overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2009, 08:20:58 PM
 New Paltz gets big games from Harris Wichard and Shereef Taylor. Wichard with 27 pts on 9x20 fg, 4x11 3's, 5x6 ft 5 reb, 2 asst. Taylor with 27 pts on 13x20 fg, 1x1 3's, 0x3 ft, 8 reb, 5 steals, and 2 asst. Jayquan Anderson has 22 pts on 9x11 fgs, 4x6 ft, with 9 boards. Nick Taldi adds 13 pts on 4x9 fg, 3x7 3's, 2x2 ft. Oppong Agyemang with 12 assists 8 pts on 4x8 fg, 4 reb, and 3 steals.

Hawks were down 47-40 at the half came back to grab the lead with 2 mins gone in the 2nd. Back and forth play until New Paltz forged ahead by 6 at the 15 min mark.Hawks gained largest lead at 8 with 12:06 to play but Owls chipped away until final seconds when they go to the line down 1 87-86 Owls only get 1 of 2 and send it to OT. Back and forth in OT with neither team up by more than 2. Taylor bucket with 29 sec left gives Hawks 2 pt lead 97-95 but Owls hit layup with 11 sec left to tie and the Hawks Taldi misses a 3 at buzzer. In the 2nd OT Hawks fall behind by 4 and Owls extend to 6 with 1:42 left. Hawks Taldi nails a 3, Agyemang steals and Wichard makes a layup with 16 secs left. Hawks foul with 9 ticks left and Keene makes 1 of 2 ft. Hawks with 1 last shot, down 109-107, Shereef Taylor make a trey to pull it out for New Paltz.  It was his only 3 pt attempt of the game. Way to make em count. Must have been a great game to watch. Way to go Hawks!!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2009, 08:23:12 PM
Plattsburgh State drops Clarkson 85-75.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2009, 08:52:59 PM
Plattsburgh State nailed their first 5 attempts from behind the arc to jump out to a quick lead over Clarkson. Up by 14 after 8 minutes Clarkson fought back to cut it to 29-22 but the Cardinals went on a 13-1 run and stretched it to 22-4 run to end the half up 51-26. Cards shot 19-28 (67.9%) in the opening period. Plattsburgh extended their lead to 58-29 early in the 2nd half before Clarkson made a game of it and closed to within 8 late in the game but Cardinals made free throws down the stretch to preserve the win. Steve Thomas led the Cardinals with 21 pts on 6x8 fg, 3x4 3's, and 6x7 from the line. Errol Daniyan scored 19 pts on 5x6 fg,and 9x12 from the line. The big man has now made 23x30 free throws in 5 games for a 76% clip, up over 20 pts from last season. Carl Munnerlyn also had a big game adding 18 pts on 5x8 fg, 1x1 3's, 7x8 ft, with 6 steals. Rey Jefferson with 19 pts, (7x8 from the field with 5 treys), Felix Llanos with  16 pts and Elson Pickering with 12 pts paced the Golden Knights. It was Clarkson's 1st loss of the season and they move to 3-1.

Plattsburgh St. is now 4-1 and will host Liberty League power St. Lawrence on Tuesday Dec. 1st. Cards looking to avenge last years loss to the Saints.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: doubleaz87 on December 01, 2009, 10:30:41 AM
As for the Tom Kelso thing... ummmm he is actually 6'9"... but yeah he isn't on the team anymore technically. It's a long story that isn't being provided to the masses. Potsdam has a long way to go. They can't defend teams with size inside (Which is every other team in the SUNYAC) and they can't defend the inside outside game as everyone saw in the Clarkson game. Dobbs needs at least two big men in next year's recruiting class in order to compete. The Bears play the want to be D-3 SUNY Canton tonight, we'll see what happens as they look for their first win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2009, 12:58:21 PM
FRIDAY 12/4 IT'S FOR REAL!
   This Friday marks the beginning of the SUNYAC Season ( i.e. games that really count for something). With an even number of teams (10), and everyone playing each other twice, the SUNYAC Standings will leave little doubt as to who is the best come 2/21/2010! And since no one gets to play Morrisville twice while others only play them once,  the Conference standings should be a true indicator of where everyone is at come playoff time!

  Looking forward to Fridays night Conference openers. Certainly the BENGALS 1-1 vs Blue Devils 0-3 (and at 0-3 they may really be feeling blue :( )is my game of choice for this weekend. I have no doubt that everyone who has either been injured or suspended on Fredonia's team will be eligible and/or healthy for Friday nights conference opener! ;).

  The Brockport 3-1 vs. Oswego 2-1 (with, in my opinion, one of the best 1-2 SUNYAC 08-09  frontcourt tandems  in Burridge and Francois) match-up should be very entertaining. So far this year Burridge is averaging over 22 a game while Francois is managing the boards.

  The Plattsburgh 4-1 vs. New Paltz 3-2 game should also be very entertaining/revealing.  Interesting enough Plattsburghs' Ruiz, last years #2 scorer in SUNYAC at 18.2, is the third leading scorer on this years team with a 13.2 average!?.

  Potsdam 0-2 vs. Oneonta 3-1  and Geneseo 0-2 vs Cortland 2-1 both  look like a  mismatch on paper, however SUNYAC play is better than all the rest, so anything can happen when 2 SUNYAC teams get together!

Here's 2 great SUNYAC season!!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2009, 09:43:28 PM

Cortland misses last second shot and falls 76-75 at Ithaca, whoseS. Rossi sinks deciding hoop at 1:15 to conclude game's scoring. D. Marshall had put CSt up at 1:29. IC back from 44-36 halftime hole and trails till A. Oztenel trey provides 65-63 edge at 7:08.  Nip and tuck thereafter. Rossi 18 pts, 6 assts; J. Marcus 15; P. Barera 14 pts, 11 rebs; Oztenel 14 pts. IC 29x61fg, 9x14ft. Cortland's P. Oliver 18 pts (9x10fg) -- 16 in 1st half, 4 pf in all; W. Costin 13 pts; D. Marshall 11 pts; B. Manning 11 pts. Dragons 33x63fg, 3x5ft

New Paltz 75, Vassar 64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2009, 10:08:04 PM
Plattsburgh jumps to 41-36 halftime lead over St. Lawrence, hikes margin to nine and holds off late SL surge for 90-86 win. Saints within two at 0:04. C. Munnerlyn ft at 0:03 and S. Thomas ft pair at 0:01. Munnerlyn 23 pts; Thomas 14 pts; E. Daniyan 14 pts, 8 rebs; C. Ruiz 12 pts; K. brooks 10 pts. Cards 31x62fg, 6x12 3s, 22x30 ft. SL with five in double figures, 12 high, four others with 11

Oswego 60, Clarkson 46
Potsdam 104, Canton 62
Fredonia 64, Houghton 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2009, 10:38:10 PM

Oswego uses late 11-1 run to keep guest Clarkson at bay. H. Ward sparks that spree and finishes with 13 pts, 14 rebs. C. Burridge 15 pts, 11 rebs. 3 stls. Lakers outboard Knights 54-34, shoot 18x52fg, 1x14 3s, 23x37ft. Clarkson 14x57fg, 11x18ft

New Paltz opens up 40-30 halftime lead at home. Hawks 29x59fg as J. Anderson gets 20 pts(9x14fg); H. Wichard 20 pts(3x5 3s); S. Taylor 12 pts, 10 rebs; O. Agyemang 7 assts, 6 rebs

Fredonia's J. Kane off sideline for 22 pts(7x8fg). B. Cooper 13 pts(3x8 3s), 7 rebs. Devils erase 30-26 deficit at midway stage

Potsdam builds 52-35 gap midway and coasts upon nailing five of first eight shots in final half. A. Williams' 20 pts paces double figure handful for Bears vs. 1-7 Kangaroos

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2009, 11:23:52 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh St-St Lawrence game and it was a nail biter. SLU jumped out to an early 14-9 lead but Cards take lead 20-17 at the 10 minute mark of the 1st half and were never headed. Up 34-26 for their largest lead of the half Saints close to within 3 but Steve Thomas hit a pull up jumper with 2 seconds left and the Cards go into the break up 41-36. Saints come out of the break and get within 1, 43-42, 3:10 into the half. Back and forth action with Cards going up by 5 or 6 only to have the Saints come back and close to 1 possession game on 5 occassions until Plattsburgh opens up their largest lead at 64-55 with 10:35 remaining. Again SLU closes to 66-64 and teams trade baskets over the next 7 possessions. Up 72-70 with 4:42 left, the Cardinals get a driving layup by Carl Munnerlyn 1 of 2 free throws from Errol Daniyan, and a midcourt steal and breakaway dunk by Steve Thomas to stretch the lead to 7. Saints Garrett Sharlow drains a three, Cards Danny Tangney with offensive rebound and putback to extend lead back to 6. Jack Conboy layup and Ralph Temgoua putback cut lead to 79-77 with 1:59 remaining. Cards Munnerlyn hits a big 3 pointer but Chris Ruiz called for his 5th foul and Temgoua hits both free throws for SLU to cut lead to 3 with 1:19 left. Daniyan hits 2 foul shots with 23 secs left to start the foul parade that followed. Cards hit 8 of 10 free throws in final 23 seconds to seal the win.
Munnerlyn led the Cardinals with 23 pts on 7x14 fg, 2x2 3's, 7x9 ft. Daniyan added 14 pts on 4x8 fg, 6x8 ft, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals. Steve Thomas also had 14 pts(4x12 fg, 0x3 3's 6x8 ft, 6 boards, 3 steals, and 3 assists. Chris Ruiz was limited because of foul trouble but managed 12 pts and 6 rebounds in 20 minutes. Ketama Brooks added 10 points on 4x5 fg, 2x2 3's.

St Lawrence placed 6 players in double figures led by Garrett Sharlow the game's high scorer with 24 pts on 9x17 fg, 3x6 3's, 3x3 ft and 9 rebounds. Andy Hoercher had 12 pts (4x9 fg, 1x2 3's, 3x3 ft) and a game high 5 assists. Josh Sharlow, Ralph Temgoua, Terry Parham, and Nick Meunier all finished with 11 pts each.

Cardinals shot 31x62 (50%) from the field with 6x12 from behind the arc and 22x30 from the line(73.3%)  Cardinals were one of the worst free throw shooting teams in all of Division 3 last year ranking 3rd from the bottom but have turned that around this year averaging 71.6% from the line. Cards were outrebounded by the Saints 33x30.

Plattsburgh State moves to 5-1 on the season and only has 1 non-conference game remaining when they travel to Middlebury on January 5th. Cards open SUNYAC play this coming weekend when they travel downstate to take on 4-2 New Paltz on Friday night before moving on to face unbeaten Oneonta on Saturday night. Red Dragons, currently
3-0 take on Potsdam State Friday night but don't think the Bears are going to prevent Oneonta from a 4-0 start heading into the Plattsburgh game. Bears and Hawks square off Saturday night.          
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2009, 01:33:00 AM
Through games of 12-1:

SUNYAC record vs E8    2-6      Cortland loses to Ithaca since last update.

SUNYAC record vs Liberty League  5-2  
Plattsburgh beats Clarkson & St Lawrence, New Paltz beats Vassar, Oswego beats Clarkson.

SUNYAC overall non-conference record 23-15. Top 7 SUNYAC teams(teams that do not have a losing record) are 21-8

For a comparison:
Liberty League's overall non-conference record is 20-16. Top 6 teams(teams that do not have a losing record) are 18-9

Empire 8's overall non-conference record is 24-16. Top 7 teams(teams that do not have a losing record) are 22-11

Tough to read much into these stats because of the unbalanced match-ups but just thought I throw them out there for your viewing pleasure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2009, 12:03:49 PM
Good stuff there magicman!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: doubleaz87 on December 02, 2009, 04:02:06 PM
Mike Grimes (Albany native like myself) vs. Chris Ruiz on Saturday. Who wins that match-up?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 03, 2009, 02:24:31 AM
There is nobody like the magicman when comes to the crunching of the numbers!!  The "Defending National Champion" in the multi-board pool!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2009, 02:38:09 AM
Quote from: with age came? on December 03, 2009, 02:24:31 AM
There is nobody like the magicman when comes to the crunching of the numbers!!  The "Defending National Champion" in the multi-board pool!!!

Thanks  age. Wondered where you've been for the past week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2009, 07:47:35 AM
Quote from: doubleaz87 on December 02, 2009, 04:02:06 PM
Mike Grimes (Albany native like myself) vs. Chris Ruiz on Saturday. Who wins that match-up?

Well, I wish the game was here in Plattsburgh so I could see it but at least because of the balanced schedule this year I will get to see the rematch on Jan. 20th. I think Oneonta might win this 1st matchup (but I hope they don't) because home court is huge in the SUNYAC. Both teams have gotten off to a good start and are loaded with vetern players. Plattsburgh, with the 2 juco players they gained this year, has had to adjust  the minutes that the returning starters receive. More options for the Cardinals this year means Ruiz isn't on the floor as much as last season and naturally opposing defenses are aimed at stopping him because of his All-Conference status and possible POY considerations. This opens up the other options the Cards have and it is why Ruiz is only the 3rd leading scorer on the team. It's early though and I expect by year's end he will be at the top. Cards still have to learn to share the ball and make the extra pass, but they're gettting better at doing that as evidenced by 5 players in double figs against SLU Tuesday night. The turnovers that plagued them in their loss to Elms College has been addressed and hopefully they will continue to improve in that area of play. I think the Grimes-Ruiz matchup will turn out to be fairly even but if I have to pick one I'll go with Ruiz. He wins the battle but Red Dragons score narrow victory. The wild card for the Cardinals is Steve Thomas. His performance could be a game changer.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 03, 2009, 08:27:58 AM
Magic --How are you? Thanks for all the numbers but give me your prediction of SUNYAC standings from nonconference showings--I like Plattsburgh as they have many weapons. My beloved Eagles should be in the mix, and I don't have enough information to make educated order of finish. Give us something to discuss.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: doubleaz87 on December 03, 2009, 01:36:11 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 03, 2009, 07:47:35 AM
Quote from: doubleaz87 on December 02, 2009, 04:02:06 PM
Mike Grimes (Albany native like myself) vs. Chris Ruiz on Saturday. Who wins that match-up?

Well, I wish the game was here in Plattsburgh so I could see it but at least because of the balanced schedule this year I will get to see the rematch on Jan. 20th. I think Oneonta might win this 1st matchup (but I hope they don't) because home court is huge in the SUNYAC. Both teams have gotten off to a good start and are loaded with vetern players. Plattsburgh, with the 2 juco players they gained this year, has had to adjust  the minutes that the returning starters receive. More options for the Cardinals this year means Ruiz isn't on the floor as much as last season and naturally opposing defenses are aimed at stopping him because of his All-Conference status and possible POY considerations. This opens up the other options the Cards have and it is why Ruiz is only the 3rd leading scorer on the team. It's early though and I expect by year's end he will be at the top. Cards still have to learn to share the ball and make the extra pass, but they're gettting better at doing that as evidenced by 5 players in double figs against SLU Tuesday night. The turnovers that plagued them in their loss to Elms College has been addressed and hopefully they will continue to improve in that area of play. I think the Grimes-Ruiz matchup will turn out to be fairly even but if I have to pick one I'll go with Ruiz. He wins the battle but Red Dragons score narrow victory. The wild card for the Cardinals is Steve Thomas. His performance could be a game changer.   
Very true... They are a better overall team with those two transfers... But as for the match-up I'm taking Grimes because he is very determined to go out on top and he will do anything to win the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2009, 08:42:51 PM
jdex,

Any partial scores on SUNYAC action tonight? Only thing I know is Cortland pounding Geneseo 52-14 at the half. Ouch!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2009, 09:23:48 PM
Brockport over Oswego 28-23 with 13mins left to play. Real defensive battle, I guess.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 04, 2009, 09:37:32 PM
Oneonta beats Potsdam 81-56.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2009, 09:43:06 PM
Cortland downs Geneseo 77-56.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2009, 09:53:43 PM

Cortland annihilates Geneseo with early 12 3s splurge in first half rout. Gense begin final half on 17-0 run. Ho-hum. Cortss 28x58fg, 13x28 3s. D. Marshall in reserve role for 22 pts(9x12fg, 2x4 3s). J. LaMont 16 pts(4x8 3s); B. Manning 13 pts(5x9fg, 2x4 3s); J. Winter 11 pts, 3x5 3s); B. Nagle 6 rebs; B. Oliver 4 pts, 4pf. Gens 22x64fg, 1x9 3s. Heretofore little-used J. Drazen 12 pts, 10 rebs in second half play that also featured A. Miller
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2009, 10:06:11 PM

Plattsburgh 92, New Paltz 77
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2009, 10:13:30 PM

Plattsburgh's C. Ruiz scores 34 -- 20 in second half to lead Cards from 45-38 halftime deficit past New Paltz. Ruiz 14x19fg, 6x7 3s, 5 rebs in 33'; S. Thomas 15 pts; E. Daniyan 11 pts(5x6fg); C. Munnerlyn 10 pts(5x8fg). Pburgh 40x64fg, 7x15 3s, 5x17ft. NP gets 22 pts from S. Taylor(8x16fg); O. Agyemang 8 assts. Pburgh takes lead at 16:09 on K. Brooks hoop and builds margin to 22
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2009, 10:25:28 PM

Fredonia 59, Buffalo St. 52
Brockport 52, Oswego 49

Oneonta gets 25 pts(11x12fg, 3x3 3s) from M. Grimes; 14 pts(7x8fg) from K. Walsh, 12 pts(6x10fg), 7 rebs, 6 assts from B. Beckford in win over guest Potsdam. RDragons by 41-21 at half. OSt 33x55fg. Pdam shoots 25x53fg and has 14 pts from S. Schwartz on 4x6 3s, 12 pts from B. Walker, 10 from C. Pierce
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2009, 10:43:30 PM

Quite the finish at Fredonia evidently! Actual final ....Freds 62, Buff St. 59. BS site had wrong earlier score posted, but in Freds favor. BS by 31-28 at half and by 15 with 8:02 left!! Devils take lead on B. Cooper hoop at 0:21 and get final margin at 0:00 on two Cooper ft's after N. Simmons TF at 0:01. Fredonia paced by J. Kane 17 pts(6x11fg) off bench; Cooper 13 pts; K. Mitchell 11 pts. Go 23x58fg, 4x18 3s, 12x24ft. BS gets 19 pts(8x10fg) from G. Carr. J. Simmons 17 pts(7x16fg, 2x10 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2009, 10:54:23 PM

Brockport holds 25-17 lead at half and builds to 10 with 6:21 left. Oswego within a pair in final seconds. OSt 17x51fg, 2x13 3s, 13x20ft. Bport 17x56fg, 3x21 3s, 15x20ft. B. Williams sparks win with 20 pts(6x10fg, 8x9ft, 4 stls, 4pf in 23'; J. Johnson 11 pts. C. Gilkes nets 12 pts(5x9fg) for Lakers in 14' spare role. C. Burridge 10 pts(4x12fg), 9 rebs. in 34'; H. Ward 11 rebs as OSt has 43-32 reb margin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on December 05, 2009, 02:23:11 AM
Man what a game wish I could have been there... almost 800 people at the game thats alot for a sunyac game...im back guys and everyone is healthy in fredonia..James kane 17 points off the bench...a few stats that are really going to hurt the bengals this year  2-10 from 3 by jake simmons a freshman he must really have the green light and 2 technicals from the other simmons a soph.  and last but not least the bench of buff st. got outscored 33 to 5.  I know it wasnt pretty but Fredonia never wins pretty.

Oh and Bengalsrule I am sorry man, it was a tough one
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2009, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: FreddyState on December 05, 2009, 02:23:11 AM
Oh and Bengalsrule I am sorry man, it was a tough one

Thanks FreddyState for your condolences....and Congrats on the win! I was at the game and it was a tough loss for us (BENGALS).Having been up by 15, 57-42 with 8:02 left in the game and scoring only 2 points over the last 8 minutes makes it even tougher.

I am encouraged however especially when you talk about freshmen like 6'0" Jake Simmons (18.7 pts per game average over the first 3 games/40.7% from the field) and Sophomores like 5'10" Norman Simmons ( a 2 to 1 Assists vs Turnover ratio, 11.3 pts per game average and shooting 54% from the field...oh did I add 18 boards in 3 games?). Yep Normans' temper got the best of him on his 2nd tech ( the first was actually a double tech between him and J. Kane of Fredonia when Kane kicked Simmons during a tussle for the ball). But I will take "Capt." Norman Simmons in a Foxhole over anyone else in SUNYAC. You are right... at present youth is being served at Buffalo State College. And yes, the 800+crowd last night was the largest non-playoff crowd that I can ever remember. It was actually standing room only with 790 plus standing during the last 1:41 seconds of the game. And for those 2 underclassmen to experience that atmosphere last night will only make them , and the rest of the BENGALS,stronger!

  And so as a true believer of the B.S.C. BENGALS I awaken this morning actually feeling much better than I did last night at 10:12 p.m. >:(.Coupled with the fact that starting point guard freshman-Anthony Hamer - ( 4.5 assists per game average and a 2.3 to 1 Assists to Turnover ratio in his first 2 college games) was injured and did not dress. Nor did Last years starting center Senior Capt. - Antonio Samedi (who was 18th in rebounds and 6th in blocked shots in SUNYAC last season) dress either. Both will be dressed and healthy for the next SUNYAC encounter! :) Trust me. ;)

So again congrats Freddyrules, on a great win. Come 1/29/10 I predict that.."IT'S GONNA HURT"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2009, 04:39:04 PM
Cortland leads Brockport 36-29 at the half. jdex likes that update.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2009, 06:00:26 PM

Cortland shades Brockport 65-63 at Pete Corey Gym on B. Manning trey at 1:56. R. Evans ft at 0:41 completes scoring. Port misses at 0:17 (a 3) and at 0:05. Dragons up 36-29 at half and widen gap to 10 before Port rallies to take lead at 3:58 on B. Williams trey. Tough day otherwise for BW. Corts 22x41fg but nearly vanquished by 19 turnovers. Port 21x56fg with mere 8 trnvrs. CSt 6x14 3s, 15ft; Port 7x19 3s, 14ft. Fr J. Winter 17 pts(8x8ft), 5 assts in 29' for Corts; D. Marshall 11 pts(3x3fg, 3x3 3s) in 29' off bench; B. Nagle 7 rebs, 4 assts, 6 pts. G. Williams 18 pts(6x11fg, 3x7 3s) for Port; F. Lantigua 14 pts; B. Williams 10 pts; J. Johnson 1x15fg, 5 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2009, 06:02:20 PM

Plattsburgh 60, Oneonta 58
New Paltz 99, Potsdam 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2009, 06:15:34 PM

Plattsburgh completes comeback on S. Thomas hoop at 0:02. That countered Oneontan B. Hooks tying trey at 0:08. Pburgh trails 27-25 at half and by 9 with 3:44 left. Thomas 20 pts(7x16fg, 2x5 3s) in 40'; E. Daniyan 20 pts(6x12fg, 6 rebs, 8x13ft; C. Ruiz 13 pts, 6 rebs; K. Brooks 5 assts. Cards 21x50fg, 3x11 3s, 15x23ft. For OSt M. Grimes 12 pts(5x14fg), 4pf in 32'; B. Beckford 12 pts, 10 rebs; K. Walsh 11 rebs, 4 assts. Dragons 41-33 reb advantage. Shoot 23x57fg, 3x10 3s, 9x17ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2009, 06:24:50 PM

New Paltz' O. Agyemang doles out 16 assists in 37' stint. Potsdam has 6 total assists, 27 turnovers. Hawks 43x68fg and hold 50-32 lead midway. H. Wichard 23 pts in 22' on 9x12fg; S. Taylor 18 pts(8x10fg), 5 assts. Agyemang adds 4 stls, 4 reb, 5 pts. Pdam's A. Williams 18 pts(6x10fg). Bears 26x53fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2009, 06:38:19 PM
Thank you jdex. Thank You. Just waiting for your post to hear what happened. I predicted Oneonta might win a tight one but said that Steve Thomas performance  could be a game changer. Love it when I'm wrong, then right.  ;D :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2009, 10:49:59 PM

Geneseo shocks host Oswego 66-65!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2009, 11:56:27 PM

Geneseo's M. Hoy 2 ft's at 0:04 sink Lakers. OSt's C. Burridge missed 3pter at finish line of foul-fest. Total of 60 pf called, Gens 22x38 from the stripe, Oswego 23x28. Victors 19x53fg, 6x19 3s, hosts 20x51fg, 2x13 3s. Lakers by 25-18 thru 20' and stretch that quickly. Gens fight back for lead at 10:33 on K. Stevens trey. But Oswego rebounds to take 10 pt edge at 5:29. Back bounce Knights and Hoy triple gets reversal at 1:51. H. Ward bucket provides 65-64 Laker lead in final moments, only to have Hoy hit winning ft pair. Hoy 18 pts(4x9fg, 3x7 3s, 7x8ft) in 24'; B. Simpson 13 pts, 5pf in 26'; Stevens 12 pts, 7 rebs. Oswego's Burridge 15 pts, 8 rebs; Ward 13 pts(4x5fg), 9 rebs; S. Francois 11 pts in 19'; C. Gilkes 10 pts(4x5fg), 5pf in 20'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on December 06, 2009, 07:25:15 PM
man it looks like there was some amazing games this weekend in sunyac play....alot of close games!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 06, 2009, 08:18:15 PM
The SUNYAC looks like it will be a dogfight!!!Plattsburgh,Oneonta, Cortland and Brockport appear to be the upper echelon with Fredonia and New Paltz close behind. Anyone else have any thoughts on the matter--I know its early but I would give them the edge as first semester comes to a close!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on December 06, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
I agree plattsburgh is definetly gonna be the team to beat this year ...cortland and oneonta also should be right up there...Im not quite sold on brockport yet because they have absolutly no big men but they didnt last year either ...We are going to have to wait till second semester on new paltz because last year they started off awesome as well then had some eligibility issues..  fredonia is experienced and finally getting healthy definetly playing alot better then the first 3 games of the season...I think buff st is a very young team that will be in the top 5 by the end of the season if everyone stays eligible.

geneseo and oswego seems like they are down this year but have one of the best coaching staffs in my opinion so u never know...potsdam really down this year
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2009, 09:41:48 PM

Contrary to SUNYAC site, Potsdam loses 77-74 at St. Lawrence, though not without a fight. Saints by 40-29 at half and then quickly 18. But E. Cross 3-pter at 7:37 gives Bears the lead. SL reversal short time later and leads remainder, by 9 at one point. But Pdam within one at 0:17 and twice misses in final seconds. O. Minott 16 pts(8x13fg), 5 rebs in 35' for Bears. S. Schwartz 15 pts(6x13fg); C. Pierce 14 pts(6x11fg) off bench. Bears with 19 turnovers, SL 23. Saints had five in double figures, led by R. Temgoua 19 pts. Pdam 32x62fg, 4x6ft; SL 30x61fg, 7x12ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2009, 09:51:25 PM

Oneonta rolls over Hartwick 70-61, holding 32-22 lead through 20' and retaining double digit edge most of second period. S. Gillette 19 pts(6x9fg, 3x4 3s); M. Grimes 14 pts(2x2 3s); T. Talbot 11 pts; B. Hooks 10 pts; B. Beckford 14 rebs; K. Walsh 6 rebs, 4 assts. OSt 22x43fg, 9x15 3s, 17x26ft, 35-27 reb. Wick gets 22 pts, 10 rebs from K. Phillips; 21 pts from M. Blazek. Shoots 23x59fg, 11x12ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2009, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: FreddyState on December 06, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
.I think buff st is a very young team that will be in the top 5 by the end of the season if everyone stays eligible.

  I can't speak for any BENGALS team that preceeded the 04-05 season, but since Fajri Ansari became coach (in 2005) there has NEVER been a player removed from the team because of eligibility problems. Coach Ansari has kicked players off the team (who's attitude/demeanor did not meet B.S.C. BENGAL standards)  but please don't confuse that with ineligibility. So I'm not sure where the "if everyone stays eligible" comment is coming from ::). Hopefully you don't have Buff State confused with New Paltz (both do have orange in their team colors).

  I too agree that the BENGALS should finish in the top 5! Too bad their, BENGALS, game vs. D-2 Point Park was cancelled tonite (Bad Weather in Buffalo...surprised?). However this Saturday's contest versus D-1 University of Buffalo (08-09 MAC Championship game participant and MAC Eastern Conference Champ) should give the BENGAL faithful an opportunity to see the entire team together for the first time this season!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2009, 09:04:35 PM
Cortland downs Utica College 71-61. Next up they try for Utica sweep as they host SUNYIT on 12-18.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2009, 09:31:37 PM
Back and forth play between Cortland and Utica College in the 1st half that saw 8 ties and 9 lead changes, before Red Dragons go into the break up 34-33. Largest lead was 5 pts achieved twice by Corts late in the half. Pioneers fall behind by 6 at the 16:13 mark of the 2nd, 41-35 but come roaring back with a 15-0 run in the next 4:30, highlighted by back to back treys by Will Abrams and James Paterson followed by an Abrams free throw and a Paterson steal and layup. Cortland finally stops the bleeding with a Mike Lewis layup and 2 ft's by Paul Oliver to pull within 5 at 50-45. Red Dragons continue comeback with 15-2 run of their own to take the lead 56-52 on another pair of Oliver ft's and a 3 pointer by Jeff Lamont. Red Dragons never headed and go 6x6 from the line down the stretch to seal the win.

Cortland led by Paul Oliver with a double -double of 20 pts (6x10 fg's, 8x8 ft's) and 11 rebounds. Ben Nagle had 18 pts on 7x9 fg's and 4x4 ft;s with 8 boards. Jeff Lamont chipped in with 10 pts (2x5 fg's 2x2 3's, 4x4 ft's). Red Dragons were 24x48 from the field, 5x15 from beyond the arc and 18 for 20 from the line. Utica College only went to the charity stripe 11 times hitting 7. Cortland also won the battle of the boards 40-23. Utica College was led by Paterson with 25 pts. Patrick Goodman had 14, and Abrams added 11. Pioneers shot 25x62 from the field and 4x16 from 3 point land.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2009, 03:05:33 AM
SUNYAC Players of the Week from the beginning of the season through this past weekends conference openers:

December 7
Chris Ruiz, Plattsburgh Junior Guard (Washington Heights/St. Agnes)
Ruiz averaged .590 from the field and an impressive .571 from behind the arc. He helped lead the Cardinals to a 3-0 week with 19.7 points, 5.7 rebounds and 1.67 assists per game. Plattsburgh beat St. Lawrence at home 90-86, then traveled to New Paltz and won 92-77. They finished off their perfect week knocking off undefeated host Oneonta 60-58. He posted a season-high 34 points on the scoreboard against New Paltz and went 6-for-7 from the three-point line during that same game. In the Oneonta game he scored 13 pts with 6 rebounds and 2 steals. In the final 2:50 of the game he scored 5 pts had 2 rebounds and a key steal with 25 seconds left.

November 30
Shereef Taylor, New Paltz Sophomore Guard (Hyde Park/FDR)
Taylor hit the game-winning three-pointer against Keene State with four seconds remaining in the second overtime. He scored a game-high 27 points and added 8 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a game-high 5 steals. He also recorded 14 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 blocks and 3 steals in a loss to SUNYIT.

November 23
Chad Burridge, Oswego Sophomore Forward (Hannibal/Hannibal)
Burridge led the Lakers in the first week of the season by averaging 22.3 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 1.67 blocks per game. The Lakers finished the week 2-1 after a loss to Utica, 82-71, and wins over NJ City University, 69-65, and Medgar Evers, 80-54. Burridge was named the Max Ziel Tournament Most Valuable Player as Oswego State claimed the championship trophy.

November 16
Josh Zenkel, Brockport Senior Guard (Webster/Webster-Thomas)
Zenkel led the Golden Eagles to a season-opening 75-72 win over St. Lawrence with a team high 15 points. The senior was 4-6 from the free throw line in the final minute to seal the victory.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2009, 03:41:58 AM

Through games of 12-9:

SUNYAC record vs E8    4-6      Cortland beats Utica Oneonta beats Hartwick since last update

SUNYAC record vs Liberty League  5-3  Potsdam loses to SLU since last update

SUNYAC overall non-conference record 25-16. Top 7 SUNYAC teams(teams that do not have a losing record) are 23-8

For a comparison:
Liberty League's overall non-conference record is 28-23. Top 6 teams(teams that do not have a losing record) are 18-9

Empire 8's overall non-conference record is 26-19. Top 7 teams(teams that do not have a losing record) are 23-13

Tough to read much into these stats because of the unbalanced match-ups but just thought I throw them out there for your viewing pleasure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 10, 2009, 08:02:59 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2009, 07:01:59 PM
Quote from: FreddyState on December 06, 2009, 09:04:21 PM
.I think buff st is a very young team that will be in the top 5 by the end of the season if everyone stays eligible.

  I can't speak for any BENGALS team that preceeded the 04-05 season, but since Fajri Ansari became coach (in 2005) there has NEVER been a player removed from the team because of eligibility problems. Coach Ansari has kicked players off the team (who's attitude/demeanor did not meet B.S.C. BENGAL standards)  but please don't confuse that with ineligibility. So I'm not sure where the "if everyone stays eligible" comment is coming from ::). Hopefully you don't have Buff State confused with New Paltz (both do have orange in their team colors).

  I too agree that the BENGALS should finish in the top 5! Too bad their, BENGALS, game vs. D-2 Point Park was cancelled tonite (Bad Weather in Buffalo...surprised?). However this Saturday's contest versus D-1 University of Buffalo (08-09 MAC Championship game participant and MAC Eastern Conference Champ) should give the BENGAL faithful an opportunity to see the entire team together for the first time this season!

Just a point of clarification, Point Park is an NAIA DII program
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on December 12, 2009, 08:36:45 PM
Fredonia State beats Worchester State 75-73 in the first round of the RIT tournament.  Brad Cooper had 28 and 7 rebounds for Fredonia.  Julius Bryant also contributed 24 points while James Kane had 10 boards and 8 points.  Fredonia moves to 3-3 and has won 3 straight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2009, 11:12:44 PM
Potsdam State hangs with visiting Ithaca for the 1st 20 minutes only down 40-38 at the half, but the Bombers inside game proves to be too much for the Bears to overcome and they fall 92-77. Bears placed 4 in double figures led by Ben Walker with 22 pts(9x15 fg,1x3 3's, 3x6 ft) and Orlando Minott with 15(7x11 fg). Ed Cross added 12 pts hitting 4 of 6 from behind the arc and Skip Schwartz chipped in with 11 pts(4x8fg, 3x6 3's).

Bomber's Phil Barera goes 16x18 from the field and leads all scorers with 33 pts. He also was the game's top rebounder with 9.  Sean Rossi had 18 pts with 7 assists and Eli Maravich has 12 pts on 5x7 fg. Both Chris Cruz-Rivas and Andrei Oztemel added 10 pts.

Bears shot 31x64 from the field (48.4%), while the Bombers hit 39x65 (60%).
Bombers grabbed 41 rebounds to 27 for Potsdam.

Potsdam now off until they visit Fredonia and Buffalo St. on Jan 8th and 9th.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2009, 04:45:53 AM
Oneonta St. tops visiting Utica College 66-52 Saturday night to up their record to 6-1. Utica scored the game's first basket and led early on 7-4 but that was the last time they would have the lead. The Red Dragons powered by Michael Grimes, who scored 13 straight points for his team, took control and never looked back. Up 25-15 with 7:37 left to play in the half, the Pioneers narrowed the gap to 4 at 25-21, but Oneonta closed out the period with a 12-2 run to go into the break up 37-23. Red Dragons continued to build on their lead until it reached 21 on several different ocassions and the best Utica could do was narrow it to 12 late in the game. Grimes posted a double-double as he led all scorers with 21 pts,(8x18 fg, 3x6 3's, 2x3 ft) 10 rebounds, and 3 assists. Brian Beckford also had a double-double with 10 pts, 11 boards, 3 assists, 4 steals and 2 blocks.

The Pioneers were led by James Paterson with 18 pts,(5x10 fg, 3x5 3's, 5x6) and Patrick Goodman with 12 pts.

Oneonta tries for a Utica sweep as they travel to Florida and take on SUNYIT in the opening round of the ECAC Holiday Festival at Disney World in Orlando on Dec. 21st . The next day they take on Wheaton (Mass).           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2009, 09:54:03 PM
Fredonia State loses a close one to Fisher College(Mass) 72-71 in the Championship game of the Brodie Tournament at RIT. After Fredonia claims the lead 71-70 with 16 seconds left Fisher gets a layup at the buzzer to claim the tournament title.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 18, 2009, 05:32:15 PM

Cortland guns down SUNYIT 78-61 at home, galloping to 44-32 halftime lead on 8x12 3pters. Fr J. Winter with 16 first half pts, finishes with 21(7x13fg, 4x8 3s), 6 assts, 6 rebs; fr J. LaMont 16 pts(5x11fg, 4x9 3s; P. Oliver 12 pts(6x9fg), 5 rebs; fr J. Smith 10 pts(2x4 3s); B. Nagle 9 rebs. CSt 28fg, 13x29 3s. Dragons 6-2 and meet Clarkson on 1/6. SUNIT also 6-2. D. Brown 21 pts(8x18fg); R. Charles 16 pts(7x14fg), 8 rebs; D. Goliembowski 15 pts(6x16fg) after 4 pt first half, 19 rebs. IT 23x72fg, 4x26 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 18, 2009, 10:28:36 PM


Oswego destroys Cazenovia 109-59. Lakers build on 53-23 lead at half. Shoot 46x75fg paced by C. Burridge 20 pts(9x12fg) in 24'; J. Uribe 17 pts(5x7fg), 6 reb in 17'; S. Francois 16 pts(6x8fg); C. Gilkes 13 pts(6x10fg), 10 rebs in 17'; B. Nollet 12 pts(6x9fg), 7 rebs in 22'; C. Monaghan 10 pts, 6 rebs, 4 asts; R. Sheridan 5 assts. OSt 4-3, Caz 0-9

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2009, 11:09:13 PM
Oneonta defeats SUNYIT 78-67 at the ECAC Holiday Festival at Disney World in Florida. SUNYIT hits a 3 pointer to open the game and the Red Dragons counter with a 9-0 run and are never headed. Oneonta stretches lead to 15 with 7:39 to play in the 1st half and settle for a 37-25 lead at the break. Wildcats narrow the gap to 6 early in the 2nd half but Red Dragons go on a 16-2 spurt to open up a 20 pt advantage and coast to the win. Four Red dragon players scored in double figures led by Brian Hooks with 18, who hit 6 of 10 from 3 pt. land. Brian Beckford had a double-double with 17 pts and 10 rebounds along with 5 assists. Derek Hahn had 15 pts on 4x7 fg, and 7x9 ft. Mike Grimes added 10 pts and 6 boards.
Oneonta shot 27x55 from the field, 8x18 from behind the arc, and 16x25 from the line.
SUNYIT also placed 4 guys in double digits led by Floyd Thorne who was the game's high scorer with 19 pts. Aaron Swancott had 14, David Golembiowski and Kevin Cappiello chipped in with 11 each.

Oneonta moves to 7-1 on the season and tomorrow will take on Wheaton(Mass) also at Disney World in a 10 AM start.

SUNYIT drops to 6-3 and will face the same Wheaton (Mass) team on Wed. Dec 23rd at 10 AM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2009, 08:01:35 PM
Oneonta St. moves to 8-1 with a 78-68 win over Wheaton College(Mass). Red Dragons led by Michael Grimes and Brian Beckford with 18 points each. Grimes grabbed 8 boards and Beckford had 7. Troy Talbot added 17 pts and 6 assists.
Dragons up by 3 at the break and after back & forth action early in the 2nd period grabbed the lead for good with 15:57 to play. Lead was extended to 14 but Wheaton came back to close within 5 with about a minute left. Red Dragons hit 7 of 10 free throws to close out the game.
Oneonta is off until Jan 8th when they resume conference play with a big game at Brockport St.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Balencesto on December 23, 2009, 12:24:41 AM
 :)Where did Nick Baez end up?  I thought he was going to Potsdam, Fisher or somewhere in Ohio.  He seemed like he'd be a good college player if he settled on playing 3 or 4. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2009, 11:16:25 PM
Geneseo travels to the state of Washington and drops a 77-65 decision to Division II St.  Martin's. Blue Knights fall to 1-4 on the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2010, 01:06:19 PM

Geneseo beaten 75-63 by ranked (16th) D-2 Western Washington (WA). Latter's Vikes 13-1 with 12 straight Ws. Have Gens down 42-26 at half and finish 10x24 3s. Up 19 midway into final period. Knight B. Simpson 19 pts(9x21fg), 13 rebs in 35'; K. Stevens 10 pts(4x8fg). Gens 26x58 3s, 2x6 3s. Interesting winter's journey for game pair!

Cortland 2-0 (6-2), Plattsburgh 2-0 (7-1), Fredonia 1-0 (3-4), Brockport 1-1 (4-2), Geneseo 1-1 (1-5), New Paltz 1-1 (5-3), Oneonta 1-1 (8-1), Buffalo St. 0-1 (1-4), Oswego 0-2 (4-3), Potsdam 0-2 (1-6)

Some interesting Tuesday matchups though we don't see lone YAC test -- Gens at Port, as one. Three others worth eyeing -- Buffs at Bart, Pburgh at Middlebury, Oswegos at Larries

Corts resume Wednesday at Clarkson. Like pair of Friday goes -- Oneontas at Port, Pburgh at Buffs. And Corts have a Saturday date at Oswego, whose Lakers on paper appear to have the goods but stumbled at  home to maybe mediocre Freds (though Cooper & Co. certainly could prove me wrong!)

This early from one view........ Burgh's Cards and Dragons of OSt front and center by a shade over Dragons of CSt

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2010, 03:38:05 AM
Plattsburgh State becomes the 1st SUNYAC team to get a mention in the D3hoops top 25 poll this year. The Cardinals got 2 points in the ORV category. Tough road game for Plattsburgh later on today as they travel to Middlebury to take on the undefeated and #7 ranked Panthers, who are off to their best start in school history at 9-0. Plattsburgh lost a close one at home last year to Middlebury 68-64 and the game hinged on a disputed offensive goaltending call against the Cardinals with about a minute left to play. Wish I could predict a Cardinal win but Panthers start a  6'10', 6'8", 6"4" frontcourt and a 6'4", 6'3" backcourt. They average 74 ppg and are only allowing 54 ppg. Plattsburgh is coming off a month- long layoff and might show some signs of rust. The Panthers meanwhile beat both RPI and Hamilton College by double digits in the past week and seem to be firing on all cylinders. Have to give the edge to Middlebury at home but hope I'm wrong. Going to make the trip over and see the game unless the light snow they predicted turns into something more. Have to cross Lake Champlain by ferry and travel through Burlington Vermont as NY State blew up the Crown Point bridge last week. Burlington only got 33 inches of snow on Monday. Largest snowfall in history for them.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 05, 2010, 04:51:50 AM
Root'em on home to a victory Magic!!! Go Cards - Upstate NY needs a ranked team!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2010, 05:42:07 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 05, 2010, 04:51:50 AM
Root'em on home to a victory Magic!!! Go Cards - Upstate NY needs a ranked team!!!

with age
Thanks for the support. Wish we could have pulled it off. 2 good teams going at it tonight . At least the game was worth the trip.
This is a copy of a post I did on the Top 25 Talk board after I got home.

Here's an update on my previous post as I just returned from the Middlebury-Plattsburgh State game. I didn't get the outcome I wanted as the Panthers won the game 81-75. I did get the margin of victory correct but the score was higher than I guessed due in part to the large number of fouls that were called in the 2nd half. Both of these teams are solid clubs and I'll go out on a limb and predict that Middlebury will win the NESCAC regular season crown and Plattsburgh will win the SUNYAC regular season title. They may get upset in their respective conference tournaments but both should be in the running for Pool C bids in their regions if that happens.

Not many teams in D3, if any, are going to field a bigger lineup than the one that the Panthers put on the floor. (See above post) These guys aren't just big, they're mobile, they play solid D, run the floor well, and help each other out on defense. Offensively they have a ton of weapons and rotate the ball to find the open shooter or find the mismatches inside. All of their bigs have decent post moves and a smooth shooting touch around the basket. The 3 guard rotation of Edwards, Thompson, and Wolfin scored 10, 15, and 7 pts in that order. They teamed up for 11 assists, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, and only turned the ball over 5 times in 86 minutes of play. This team reminds me of the Amherst team of 2 years ago that went to the Final Four. I saw that Lord Jeff team play twice when they defeated Richard Stockton in the round of 16 and Brandeis in the quarterfinals and there is a lot of similarity. Ryan Sharry had a great game tonight leading the Panthers with 18 points and 12 rebounds. This kid has potential All American written all over him. Should be fun to watch for the next 2 1/2 years. Small forward Ryan Wholey also had a solid game with 13 points and 6 boards. The really  big guy, Locke, scored 7 points, 6 rebounds, 5 blocks and 2 steals. The one negative about Locke is his poor free throw shooting. He's only averaging 36% from the line and tonight he continued that trend hitting just 3 of 8 attempts. The Panthers bench was a little shorter tonight due to the closeness of the game as they couldn't really put the Cardinals away. Normally Middlebury has had 10 guys get double minutes in playing time but tonight other than the above 6 only Jamal Davis had meaningful minutes, scoring 8 points and grabbing 4 boards before fouling out in 17 minutes of action.

Plattsburgh State starting lineup was Jr. F 6'6" Errol Daniyan, Sr. F 6'4" Danny Tangney, Jr. G 6'4" Chris Ruiz, Jr. G 6'2" Steve Thomas and So. G 5'10" Ketema Brooks. Despite the size differential the Cardinals were only outrebounded 42-39. The 1st half of this game started slowly as both teams missed a number of chances but the Panthers were up by 5, 11-6 after 6 1/2 minutes of play. The Cardinals came back with a 13-3 run to grab a 19-14 advantage with 6:57 to play in the half and maintained the lead until the 3:53 mark when the Panthers retook the lead and with the score 35-34 the Panthers hit a big 3 right before the buzzer to go into the break up 38-34.
Cardinals scored the 1st 4 pts of the 2nd period to tie it up at 38 but then went cold and couldn't buy a bucket. They went scoreless over the next 6:30 while the Panthers reeled off 16 unanswered points. Middlebury extended their advantage to the games largest lead of 17 points at 57-40 with 11:11 left to play. Plattsburgh went to its' trapping full court press and gradually climbed back into the game and twice cut it to 7 pts only to have the Panthers build it back to 11 with 4:07 remaining. One last surge got the Cardinals within 5 at 74-69 with 1:44 to go but a turnover on their next possession and a Middlebury bucket made it 76-69 and the Panthers hit 5 of 8 free throws down the stretch to close out the game.
Plattsburgh's Daniyan led all scorers with 23 pts and 12 rebounds(Last year against the Panthers he scored 29). Chris Ruiz was the only other Cardinal to hit double figures with 19 pts and 6 boards. Steve Thomas added 9 pts and 7 rebounds. Plattsburgh showed a lot of heart to get back into this game. They expended an enormous amount of energy with their trap press in the last quarter of play and came up a little short on a highly ranked team's home court. If there is such a thing as a good loss, this was one. In speaking with Plattsburgh's Coach Curle earlier he stated, "I know the ramifications of the Middlebury game can have an impact on the national scene, but also want the team to know the real season starts next weekend when we travel to Buffalo for the first of 16 remaining conference games."

Regarding earlier discussion about Middlebury's lofty ranking. I can't say it's too high or too low because I haven't seen any of the other ranked teams, but this is a good basketball team and based on the quality of highly ranked teams I've seen in past years I have to believe they deserve their place in the top 10. And Plattsburgh despite the loss tonight has shown they can play with a team at this level and perhaps should merit some consideration in the national poll.              
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2010, 11:35:47 AM

Buffalo State bows 99-97 in double ot at Hobart whose M. Pobole completes 36 pt(14x23fg) night with winning jumper at 0:05. BS by 39-31 at half. Bart reaches ot with 2ft at 0:08 for 78-78 reg. Bengals force second ot when J. Simmons hits layup at 0:12 for 86-86 knot. Then all Genevans till J. Simmons ft's at 0:13 precede Pobole's winner. BS 38x82fg, 1x16 3s and 53-40 reb difference. Bart 35x80fg. Bengal TO Jackson 25 pts(10x20fg), 17 rebs, 8 trnvrs in 45'; J. Simmons 21 pts(8x23fg(1x10 3s), 3 assts, 5 rebs in 45'; J. Mitchell 14 pts(6x10fg) in 28'. Bart's S. Thompson 29 pts(9x15fg, 11x15 ft)

Oswego nips St. Lawrence 65-62 in ot. R. Sheridan trey provides Laker turnaround at 1:00 on S. Michele feed. C. Monaghan layup at 0:16 clinches. OSt 27-23 at half and by eight with 3' left. SL pulls even 56-56 in reg. C. Burridge 24 pts(12x20fg), 13 rebs in 37'; Sheridan 11 pts; Michele 6 assts, 5 rebs. Lakers 29x64fg. SL J. Sharlow 22 pts, 10 rebs

Brockport bruises Geneseo 68-43, commanding 31-20 lead at half. Tis but 40-35 prior to 15-0 Port run. B. Williams 14 pts(5x6fg, 2x2 3s) in 22'; G. Sheifan 12 pts; J. Johnson 11 pts in Bport home launch. Shoots 25x56fg, 11x24 3s. Gives nine players at least 15' court time. All 16 Eagles in duty. Gens 15x43fg. B. Simpson 12 pts(5x9fg, 8 rebs; E. Estabrooks 10 pts(4x9fg, 2x2 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2010, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 06, 2010, 05:42:07 AM

" the real season starts next weekend when we travel to Buffalo for the first of 16 remaining conference games."

Truer words have never been spoken! Yes indeed the SUNYAC season is about to get into full bloom. I must say that I too have been impressed with the Cards this year. If ever there was a way to get my beloved Bengals out of thier slump then this Friday, against Plattsburgh, could do the trick.

  Yesterdays game vs Hobart was a truly tough loss. Missing 13 free throws (20 of 33) didn't help much either! A monster game, vs Hobart, from T. O. Jackson 25 pts/17 boards coupled with a "near" Double Double from his front court mate "Tone" Samedi 10 points/9 boards and 5 blocks... bodes well for the BENGALS and their ability to slow down Daniyan/S. Thomas (who combine for over 33 points and 13.5 Boards a game this season.)

Looking forward to talking to you, magicman, afterwards!! If you are making the journey then let me know and I'll buy the wings at the Anchor Bar afterwards! ;)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 06, 2010, 09:55:41 PM

Cortland bettered at Clarkson 58-54. Knights 25-22 midway and hold slim margin, but for one reversal, throughout second half. RDragons have 54 reb to hosts 32, but shoot 23x68fg, 5x17 3s, 3x9ft. Knights 19x53fg, 6x23 3s, 14x18ft. CSt's P. Oliver 12 pts(5x13fg), 7 rebs in 25'; J. Winter 10 pts(4x6fg, 2x4 3s), 8 trnvrs, 5pf in 23'; B. Nagle 16 rebs, 8 pts(4x8fg) in 33'. Little from M. Lewis. Clarkson gets 13 pts from K. Murray, 12 from F. Llanos, 11 from R. Jefferson
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2010, 03:57:30 AM
Bengalsrule,

Thanks for the offer, but the trip to Buffalo is about 250 miles outside of my travel range to see a game. Your Bengals have been in a slump since their opening day win but they have been competitive in every game they've played. They could very easily be sitting with a 4-2 record right now istead of 1-5. I hope you understand when I say I'd like their slump to continue just a little longer. After that they can win a ton of conference games. The Cardinals are favored Friday night but as we saw last year in the YAC that doesn't mean much. Six hour bus trips have a way of evening things out.  Still, I think the Cards come away with the win 80-72.  

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2010, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2010, 03:57:30 AM
Your Bengals have been in a slump since their opening day win but they have been competitive in every game they've played. They could very easily be sitting with a 4-2 record right now istead of 1-5. I hope you understand when I say I'd like their slump to continue just a little longer.                  Six hour bus trips have a way of evening things out.  Still, I think the Cards come away with the win 80-72. 

Great assesment of the BENGALS first 6 games, and potential for a 4-2 record, there magicman!! A 3 point loss @ Fredonia (after being up by 15 in the second half with less than 9 minutes to play), 2 point loss to @ CCNY (after being up by 20) and 2 point loss this week @ Hobart (with 5 missed free throws in the last 57 seconds of regulation). I am hoping that playing in the familiar confines of the "Arena" will help us in this big home SUNYAC opener tonite against your Cardinals!

We have got to keep Ruiz under 16 points ( last year he averaged 20 Plus in 2 games..both BENGAL WINS)! Coupled with the fact that he and Daniyan were the only Cards to score in double digits in both contests last year, makes them the 2 Cards that first come to mind. However this Steve Thomas guy worries me. Having lead the Cards in Scoring 4 times and rebounding once (and at 6'2" that must not have been easy) he looks like the "X" factor for tonites game!

Too bad you could not make it here Magicman. Anchor Bar Wings are the best in the NATION
(at least that what they say)! Maybe we will run into each other on the 6th at Memorial hall. Saturdays in Buffalo are pretty slow so a 6 hour drive could be a great alternative to watching snowfall in Buffalo!

I'm predicting 76-71 BENGALS!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2010, 09:05:05 PM
Buff St up 50-45 early in the 2nd half over Plattsburgh St.

Brockport and Oneonta tied at 27 at the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Brockport State takes down visiting Oneonta Red Dragons 74-67.

Plattsburgh St. and Buffalo St. head to overtime tied at 73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2010, 10:04:56 PM
Buffalo St upsets Plattsburgh St in overtime 90-87.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2010, 10:38:42 PM
Brockport reverses a 39-36 deficit at 12:47 of the 2nd with a 14-3 run over 2 1/2 minutes to go up by 8 at 50-42 and are never headed.

Brockport places 5 in double figures led by Derek Kline and Jermaine Johnson with 15 pts each. Klein, 5x12 fg, 3x7 3's, 2x2 ft. Johnson 5x10 fg, 5x7 ft. Gerald Williams with 14 pts on 5x11 fg 3x4 3's. Brandon Williams had 12 pts 5x11 fg 1x4 3's and Josh Zenkel with 11 pts on 4x6 fg, along with 8 rebounds. Port 27x64 fg 11x16 ft.

Oneonta has trio in double figs paced by Michael Grimes 19pts 7x11 fg 5x8 ft 0x2 3's. Brian Beckford with 18 on 8x14 fg, with 12 rebounds, and Troy Talbot 12 pts on 4x5 fg 4x4 ft. Red Dragons 26x50 fg 14x21 ft.

Oneonta at Geneseo and Brockport host New Paltz on Sat afternoon at 4 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2010, 10:42:45 PM
Geneseo over New Paltz 75-65,
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 08, 2010, 10:57:09 PM

Fredonia 76, Potsdam 74

Buffalo State's TO Jackson hoop at 2:14 of OT snaps 16th tie to give Bengals lead for keeps at 85-83. His bucket at 1:02 extends margin to six. Pburgh final points in closing seconds. BS by 42-39 at half. Neither side with much daylight thereafter. Both hold lead. Burgh's D. Tangney 3-pointer at 0:24 earns reg 76-76 knot. For BS it's J. Simmons 24 pts(10x17fg, 4x7 3s), 4 stls in 41'; G. Carr 20 pts(7x14fg), 10 rebs in 43'; Jackson 18 pts(8x15fg), 6 assts, 8 rebs in 43'; A. Samedi 12 pts, 6 rebs in 38'; N. Simmons 11 pts in 39'. Bengsls 36x71fg, 7x10 3s, 11x21ft, outboarded 52-38.
Cards C. Ruiz 23 pts(9x20fg), 11 rebs, 4pf in 36'; E. Daniyan 20 pts(9x12fg), 8 rebs in 40'; S. Thomas 18 pts(5x18fg, 1x7 3s), 11 rebs in 42'; Tangney 11 pts in 19'; RJ Ponesse 10 pts(4x9fg), 7 rebs in 38'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 08, 2010, 11:17:02 PM

Fredonia's B. Cooper passes career 1,000 points with 23 in win over Potsdam. Pdam up 37-35 at half and have narrow lead through front portion of second half. Devils seize lead, build to eight and in 75-69 control at 0:17. Cooper 9x16fg; J. Bryant 12 pts, A. Bilups 11 pts, J. Herrera 10 pts

Geneseo completes night's home side sweep in spilling of New Paltz. Gens 38-29 by the half. B. Simpson 27 pts(9x15fg), 14 rebs, 4pf in 35'; K. Stevens 14 pts, 11 rebs; M. Hoy 10 pts. NP 20x55fg. H. Wichard 16 pts(5x17fg, 4x10 3s); S. Taylor 15 pts, 5pf in 29'; J. Anderson 14 pts, 5pf in 22'; O. Agyemang 8 rebs, 2 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2010, 11:46:02 PM
Big win for the Bengals tonight to get back on the winning track. Fans certainly got their money's worth as these teams went at it from the opening buzzer to the end of overtime. The largest lead by either team occured right after the start of the 2nd half when the Bengals, who went into the break up by 3, hit back to back 3 pointers to open a 9 pt advantage at 48-39. Plattsburgh responded with a 10-2 run and back and forth play continued. The game featured 20 lead changes and 16 ties before the Bengals finally prevailed. Tied at 83 T. O. Jackson gets a tradional 3 pt play to give the Bengals a lead they wouldn't give up.
Buffalo St placed 5 guys in double figures. Jake Simmons 24 pts (10x17 fg, 4x7 3's,1x3 ft), Glenroy Carr double-double 20 pts (7x14 fg, 1x1 3.s 5x6 ft) and 10 rebounds. T.O. Jackson 18 pts (8x15 fg, 2x3 ft) also had 8 boards and 6 assts. Antonio Samedi with 12 pts (5x10 fg, 2x7 ft) and Norman Simmons added 11 pts (4x9 fg, 2x2 3's 1x3 ft). Bengals shot 50.7% from the field 36x71 with 70% beyond the arc 7x10 and 11x21 from the line and grabbed 38 rebounds. Bengals up their mark to 2-5 overall 1-1 in the SUNYAC

Cardinals lose their 2nd in a row on the road this week and fall to 7-3 overall and 2-1 in the conference. They also have 5 guys in double figures led by Chris Ruiz's double-double of 23 pts (9x20 fg, 1x5 3's 4x6 ft), and 11 rebounds. Errol Daniyan 20 pts (9x12 fg, 2x3 ft with 8 rebounds. Steve Thomas also with double-double with 18 pts (5x18fg 1x7 3's 7x8 ft) and 11 boards. Danny Tangney added 11 pts (4x8 fg, 2x4 3's 1x2 ft) and R. J. Ponesse with 10 pts (4x9 fg, 2x3 ft) aand 7 rebounds. Ketema Brooks added 5 pts, 7 assists and 7 rebounds. Cardinals 32x76 from the field (42.1%) 4x19 3's (21.1%) 19x26 free throws (73.1%). Plattsburgh won the battle of the boards 52x38 but to no avail.

Bengals look for and will probably get weekend sweep as they host winless in conference Potsdam State tomorrow at 4 PM.

Cardinals travel to Fredonia looking to give Blue Devils their 1st SUNYAC loss also at 4 PM tomorrow.  
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on January 09, 2010, 12:39:02 AM
Man things are really looking good!!!!!!  Good win for BUff. State.... and Brockport!!!!!and Geneseo.....  New Paltz lost to Geneseo is everyone eligible at New Paltz?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2010, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 08, 2010, 11:46:02 PM
Big win for the Bengals tonight to get back on the winning track. Fans certainly got their money's worth as these teams went at it from the opening buzzer to the end of overtime.

Big win indeed Magicman! 1 hell of a game too! Got to get ready for todays game against Potsdam (tip off in less than 70 Minutes)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2010, 05:53:01 PM
 Buffalo State 80 Potsdam State 67

Brockport State 80  New Paltz State 63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2010, 06:23:41 PM
Fredonia St downs Plattsburgh State 64-54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2010, 06:25:44 PM
Oneonta in a squeaker over Geneseo 80-79.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2010, 07:02:10 PM
Fredonia St. quickly reverses early 3-0 lead by Plattsburgh and is never headed in a 10 pt victory that wasn't as close as the final score indicates. Freds up 5 to 10 most of first half and when the Cards cut it to 23-22 with 3:17 to go Blue Devils ended the half on a 6-0 spurt to go into the break up 29-22. Back and forth play early 2nd half but Fredonia edges into a double digit lead and extends it to 19 with 10 minutes left to play. Cardinals close to within 8 with seconds left but too little too late. Once again too many turnovers (15 for Cards to 8 for Freds) and poor shooting especially from behind the arc proved costly for Plattsburgh (18x49 fg 4x17 3's).

Fredonia with 3 in double digits topped by Brad Cooper who led all scorers with 16 pts.(5x10 fg, 1x3 3's 5x5 ft) Julius Bryant had 14 pts (5x10 fg, 4x4 ft) and James Kane added 13 (5x10fg, 3x5 ft). Kyle Mitchell with 9 pts and 7 rebounds

Plattsburgh led by Carl Munnerlyn with 14pts (5x8 fg, 2x4 3's 2x2 ft). Steve Thomas only other Cardinal in double figures with 12 pts (2x6 fg, 1x2 3's 7x7ft)  
Errol Daniyan only 9 pts in 32 min. and Chris Ruiz 7pts (2x10fg, 1x3 3's 2x7 ft) in 24 mins.
Blue Devils shot 23x55 fg, 2x12 3's and 16x24 from the stripe. Cardinals grabbed 38 rebounds to 34 for Freds. Blue Devils temporarily in 1st place all alone at 3-0, and 5-4 overall will travel to Oneonta in big game next Friday. Cortland at Oswego later tonight needs a win to keep pace with Fredonia.
Plattsburgh suffers 3rd straight setback and drops to 2-2 in the SUNYAC, 7-4 overall and will host Cortland, then Oswego next weekend which have now turned into must wins.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2010, 07:11:52 PM

Oneonta comes from 15 down with 17:43 left to trip Geneseo, which misses pair of ft at 0:02 to lose by one. Gens ahead 42-36 at half and stretch it. OSt quickly strikes back within six at 14:12 and seizes lead for good (61-59) at 10:27 on S. Gillette 3-pointer. Gens B. Simpson completes scoring at 0:14 on layup and ft. OSt 32x73fg, 9x16 3s, 23 assts, 38 rebs. M. Grimes 16 pts(7x15fg), 7 rebs, 5pf in 27'; B. Beckford 14 pts, 5 rebs; Gillette 14 pts, 7 assts in 36'; B. Hooks 12 pts. Gens Simpson 25 pts(9x14fg, 6 rebs; M. Hoy 21 pts(6x12fg, 5x7 3s), 4assts in 34'; M. Baker 10 pts; A. Miller 10 pts(5x6fg), 9 rebs

Fredonia ahead 29-22 at half. Goes 23x55fg and just eight trnvrs. B. Cooper 16 pts(5x10fg), 5 rebs in 27'; J. Bryant 14 pts(5x10fg); J. Kane 13 pts(5x10fg); K. Mitchell 7 rebs. Plattsburgh 18x49fg, 4x17 3s, 14x23ft, 15 trnvrs, 38 rebs. C. Munnerlyn 14 pts(5x8fg) in 31'; S. Thomas 12 pts(2x6fg), 8 rebs in 27'; E. Daniyan 7 pts, 9 rebs in 32'; C. Ruiz 7 pts(2x10fg) in 24'. Hail to the 3-0 YAC Freds!!

Brockport shakes free from 36-36 intermission tie and on G. Williams trey takes 10 point lead with 12:31 left. Builds to 18 at 5:27. Eagles 27x60fg, 14x29 3s. G. Williams 14 pts; J. Johnson 13 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assts, 3 stls; D. Klein 11 pts(3x7 3s); B. Williams 11 pts. New Paltz 23x49fg, 4x17 3s. S. Taylor 21 pts(7x10fg), 13 rebs in 30'; J. Anderson 18 pts(7x9fg) in 29'; H. Wichard 11 pts(4x13fg), 8 rebs; O. Ogyemang 7 assts. All NP hands aboard that matter, it seems. Friday fall came with Anderson and Taylor in pf trouble, it appears

Buffalo State continues rise and takes 45-38 lead after 20'. Bengals 32x64fg, 8x17 3s. J. Simmons 24 pts(8x18fg, 7x13 3s); A. Samedi 16 pts, 8 rebs; G. Carr 14 pts, 11 rebs; J. Mitchell 11 pts, 6 rebs. Potsdam's S. Schwartz 15 pts(6x10fg, 3x5 3s); O. Minott 14 pts; A. Williams 13 pts



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 09, 2010, 10:31:09 PM

Oswego comes back from 20-5 deficit and halftime 40-35 hole to down guest Cortland 76-64. R. Sheridan shows the way with 25 pts(8x12fg, 2x5 3s). C. Monaghan with 18 pts(8x13fg) in 38' and C. Burridge 18 pts(7x19fg), 12 rebs, 4pf in 27'. Falling behind by 10 early in the second half, Lakers grabs lead on Burridge 3-pointer at 12:04 and takes  edge for good at 6:16 on H. Ward hoop. Twas five point game at 2:31. Corts get 21 pts (7x11fg, 6x7 3s) from R. Evans. P. Oliver 13 pts(5x6fg), 5 rebs, 4pf in 22'. J. Winter 6 assts; M. Lewis 0 pts, 3 rebs in 19'. OSt 28x54fg, 5x12 3s, 15x26ft, 9 trnvrs. RDragons 24x54fg, 11x23 3s, 5x11ft, 17 trnvrs. Oswego 16x30fg in second half, CSt 9x24
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 10, 2010, 10:51:46 PM
I guess my Eagles can't be taken lightly. No one plays harder!!!!They will "D" you up so bring your "A" if you are going to compete. Keep it up, Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 11, 2010, 10:55:45 PM

Potsdam falls at home to Hobart 64-56. Barts by 32-29 at halfway mark. Bears 19x45fg and 28 turnovers. B. Walker 14 pts(6x11fg, 2x4 3s) in 23'; C. Pierce 10 pts, 11 rebs; S. Schwartz 10 pts. Statesmen get 20 pts from M. Bruce
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on January 12, 2010, 06:51:08 PM
What is going on with Potsdam?! 1 win, 9 losses!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2010, 09:54:21 PM

Oneonta wins 82-77 at Cortland where final score was biggest lead either way

Oneonta takes down Oswego 75-68
Buffalo State handles D'Youville 83-71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2010, 10:20:36 PM

New Paltz rides clutch play down the stretch to continue Cortland second semester slide. Tight match throughout. NP holds 37-36 edge at half. Pair of R. Evans 3's keep Corts close in late stages. Hawks go two up at 2:08 on S. Taylor bucket that's offset by B. Manning ft pair at 1:53 for 73-73 tie. NP H. Wichard trey on J. Anderson assist makes it 76-73 Hawk lead aat 1:42. Steal by Anderson leads to Wichard ft at 0:44. Evans deuce at 0:32 cuts margin in half. Free throws by O. Agyemang, Taylor and N. Taldi polish off RDragons. NP 25x53fg, 11x23 3s, 21x26ft. Anderson 18 pts(12x13ft), 5 rebs; Wichard 16 pts(5x9fg, 3x7 3s); Taylor 16 pts(7x13fg); Taldi 14 pts(4x5 3s); Agyemang 7 assts, 7 pts. Corts 27x64fg, 11x32 3s, 12x16ft. Evans 17 pts(7x13fg, 3x8 3s); P. Oliver 13 pts, 7 rebs; B. Manning 13 pts(3x7 3s), 4 assts; J. Winter 4 assts, 2 pts

Buffalo St. finally shakes D'Youville in closing minutes. D'Yous by 35-34 at half and in game's 11th tie 11:22 from the end. J. Simmons trey provides BS lead for good at 53-50. Still five point game at 3:24 and Bengals stretch to double figures at 0:39. BS 31x58fg. J. Simmons 26 pts(8x16fg, 5x13 3s); A. Samedi 18 pts(8x11fg), 10 rebs; N. Simmons 9 rebs, 5 assts. D'Yous with five in double figures led by R. Johnson 17 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2010, 10:34:44 PM

Yes, yes ....twas New Paltz getting the win at Cortland

Oneonta had enough of a challenge at Oswego, but up to the task. Pulled away from 27-25 halftime lead to forge 14 point gap. Difference still 10 with 1:28 to go when Laker R. Sheridan pair of treys pulled hosts within five at 1:04. Oneonta simply didn't miss from the stripe in final moments. B. Beckford, M. Grimes and B. Hooks were perfect then, the latter sinking RDragons last six points. Grimes 19 pts(5x7fg), 8 rebs; Hooks 18 pts(3x5 3s); Beckford 15 pts, 5 assts, 5 stls; T. Talbot 11 pts, 4 assts. Oneonta 22x44fg, 6x14 3s (Dragons natl 3pt pct leaders), 25x33ft. Oswego 26x70fg, 7x13 3s, 9x14ft. C. Burridge 22 pts(9x22fg), 14 rebs; Sheridan 19 pts(7x16fg, 4x7 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2010, 01:24:09 AM
jdex,

Cortland loss at home is tough to take. With the home court edge going into tonight's games 14-5 in favor of the home team, defending your home court has become imperative in the YAC. Both road teams are winners tonight and I expected Oneonta to get it done against the Lakers but your Red Dragons were clearly the favorites against the Hawks. After my Cardinals went on the road back in December and came away with 2 big wins over New Paltz and Oneonta I thought we were in the driver's seat early on, but last weekend proved just how tough it can be to get a road win no matter who you face. Shades of last year. I think it's Fredonia's turn to discover that this coming weekend. If they go 1-1 their coach will probably be happy with that. Cortland makes the trip north this weekend and I'm looking forward to the the Friday matchup at Memorial Hall against Plattsburgh. Cardinals could be healthy with 2 key reserves coming back after missing last week's games. Brockport could be alone in 1st place with their 1 loss after Saturday night since they are in the Wendy's Classic tournament and don't have another conference matchup until the 19th against Fredonia. I'll give you the scoop on the Red Dragons-Cardinals game when I get home Friday night. Heard you're a little chilly in Florida this week.. :D It's only 2 below up here tonight!! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2010, 11:45:19 AM
Magic:

For sure Cortland stock falling but fast. Must be disappointing bigtime to Span. Had won four straight with some lights out play to finish first semester. Dragons someplace lost shooting eye. And to lose at home last night to the far-traveliing New Paltzers -- know Corts always cringe over that mid-week hike. But a salute to the Hawks. Frontline vet personnel very good and capable!!Now for CState @#$%&! What the %&*!@#$! One thing jumps out, even from this distance, M. Lewis has become non-factor. For whatever reason, a DNP next to his name last night. But his figures and court time limited all season. He, P. Oliver and solid addition B. Nagle and C. Milke off bench formed good frontline. Backcourt and offense certainly solidified with newcomers J. Winter, J. LaMont, D. Marshall, Smith, joining comer B. Manning and streaky R. Evans. Recent slump doesn't bode well for trip to north country vs. your Cards, who seem ripe to flash some attitude.

Still like the Burghers and Oneonta. And Buffs appear to have the real goods. Stats would seem to indicate more discipline ..... fewer threes (though J. Simmons has green light for good reason) and turnovers. Confidence growing. Jury still out on Freds ......but playing well and evidently they believe!!

Except for Pdam .....on any given night ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
Yeah, Lewis is a puzzle. When I saw him play two years ago at Plattsburgh against a team that ran the table that year in the YAC, I thought with normal improvement his next 2 years could be huge. He averaged 12.9 ppg and 7.1 rpg that year and had 25 pts and 8 boards against Plattsburgh that night going up against the Cardinals Khylan Hunt and All -Conference Travis Gorham. Last year a number of us thought that Cortland was the obvious successor to Plattsburgh as the conference leaders. But as you know the guard play of the Red Dragons last year was deficient and that was probably why Lewis' production  dipped to 10.1 ppg instead of increasing. His rebounding went up a bit to 7.9 rpg. Having started 52 of 56 games the past 2 years it's hard to believe  he has yet to start a game this year. His minutes have been reduced to a little more than half of what he used to average. His numbers this year, 4.6 ppg and 4.8 rpg are less than he put up his freshman year at Cortland (6.5ppg & 5.5rpg). Either he's playing through some nagging injury that limits his minutes on the court or he's deep in Spanbauer's doghouse. Thought for sure you'd know the answer to the Lewis situation.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on January 13, 2010, 09:30:48 PM
hey guys man this season is really unpredictable...however it does seem that the home team has had a huge advantage so far this year (which sucks for the blue devils as they go to oneonta and new paltz this weekend)..who do you guys think is the early season mvp...my vote is for cooper with simmons close behind..(simmons averaging 4 more points but has taken 60 more shots than cooper),,,cant wait for this weekends games...some exciting stuff with like 6-7 teams that could take it
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
Brockport St. in a battle with Roberts Wesleyan. Tied at 60 with 1:48 to play RW has forged into a 68-63 lead with 14 seconds to go.

Now a final 68-63. Golden Eagles lose in the 1st round of the Wendy's Classic in Rochester.
Tied at 60 Wesleyan's Jordon Heath gets hoop and 1 to grab lead and never headed. Port turns it over on ensuing oossession and Heath scores another bucket as RW goes up by 5. Eagles Zenkel hits a 3 and gets a steal  but Port's Klein  misses a 3 for the lead. RW rebound and Heath dunks for his 7th straight point and that wraps it up.

Gerald Williams with 14 pts(3x11 fg, 2x7 3's, 6x6 ft) and Derek Klein with 11pts(3x5 fg, 3x5 3's, 2x2 ft) only ones in double figures for Port.  Zack McTigue with 8pts and 9 boards. RW with A. Bland, J. Heath, and D. Foley with 16, 14, and 10 pts in that order.
Brockport shoots 22x63 from the field, 9x30 from 3, and 10x14 from the line. Eagles out rebounded 43 to 33.  Wesleyan 23x48 fg, 4x14 3's, and 20x31 from the stripe.
Brockport falls to 7-3 on the year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2010, 10:53:29 PM
Geneseo St falls to Rochester 61-51 in the 1st round of the Wendy's Classic.
Yellowjackets down by 10,  17-7 with 11:00 to go in the 1st half come back to grab 27-25 edge at the break. Rochester quickly up by 11 to start the 2nd and twice Knights cut it to 4, the last time 46-42 at 8:39 before 13-4 Rochester spurt slams the door. Blue Knights led by Brandon Simpson with 12 pts (6x17 fg) and 8 rebounds. Abe Miller added 7 pts and 10 boards. Mike Baker all around game of 8 pts, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, and 3 steals. Rochester's Nate Novosel led all scorers with 14 pts on 7x14 from the field and had a double-double with 10 rebounds. Colin Cubit chipped in with 10 pts. John DiBartolomeo added 9 pts, 3 rebounds, 5 assists and 7 steals. Rochester moves to 10-2 while Geneseo falls to 2-8.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2010, 12:31:39 AM
Quote from: FreddyState on January 13, 2010, 09:30:48 PM
who do you guys think is the early season mvp...my vote is for cooper with simmons close behind..(simmons averaging 4 more points but has taken 60 more shots than cooper),,,

  FreddyState. I could not agree with you more. Freshman Jake Simmons is probably  1 or 2 weeks away from being MVP of the YAC. Although he, Frosh Simmons, is currently the leading scorer in the YAC, he still gas a lot of room for improvement!

  Still I must admit that I feel that Jake Simmons really got slighted Monday, 1/11, when the "SUNYAC player of the week" was announced and Fredonia's Senior Brad Cooper won (for the second time in 3 weeks). Stat line for last week....

B. Cooper in 2 games vs. Plattsburgh and Potsdam - 39 points, 4 assists, 9 rebounds and 4 steals
J. Simmons in 3 games vs Plattsburgh, Potsdam and Hobart  - 69 points, 6 assists, 10 rebounds and 6 steals.

  I would ask the SUNYAC statistician why he did not give it to Simmons, but when I saw that all questions must be sent to "SUNYAC.pub@fredonia.edu" then I think that I already had my answer!

  I too agree that on any given night anyone can beat anyone in the wacky YAC! I hope your hometown "huge advantage" theory takes a hit this weekend when the BENGALS travel to New Paltz and Oneonta!

Oh and BTW...
Quote from: jdex on January 13, 2010, 11:45:19 AM
Magic:

And Buffs appear to have the real goods. Stats would seem to indicate more discipline ..... fewer threes (though J. Simmons has green light for good reason) and turnovers.

Great observation JDEX. Yes I too agree that Jake does have the "green light!!"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2010, 04:45:53 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2010, 12:31:39 AM
Quote from: FreddyState on January 13, 2010, 09:30:48 PM
who do you guys think is the early season mvp...my vote is for cooper with simmons close behind..(simmons averaging 4 more points but has taken 60 more shots than cooper),,,

  FreddyState. I could not agree with you more. Freshman Jake Simmons is probably  1 or 2 weeks away from being MVP of the YAC. Although he, Frosh Simmons, is currently the leading scorer in the YAC, he still gas a lot of room for improvement!

  Still I must admit that I feel that Jake Simmons really got slighted Monday, 1/11, when the "SUNYAC player of the week" was announced and Fredonia's Senior Brad Cooper won (for the second time in 3 weeks). Stat line for last week....

B. Cooper in 2 games vs. Plattsburgh and Potsdam - 39 points, 4 assists, 9 rebounds and 4 steals
J. Simmons in 3 games vs Plattsburgh, Potsdam and Hobart  - 69 points, 6 assists, 10 rebounds and 6 steals.

  I would ask the SUNYAC statistician why he did not give it to Simmons, but when I saw that all questions must be sent to "SUNYAC.pub@fredonia.edu" then I think that I already had my answer!

  I too agree that on any given night anyone can beat anyone in the wacky YAC! I hope your hometown "huge advantage" theory takes a hit this weekend when the BENGALS travel to New Paltz and Oneonta!

Oh and BTW...
Quote from: jdex on January 13, 2010, 11:45:19 AM
Magic:

And Buffs appear to have the real goods. Stats would seem to indicate more discipline ..... fewer threes (though J. Simmons has green light for good reason) and turnovers.

Great observation JDEX. Yes I too agree that Jake does have the "green light!!"

WAAYY too early for MVP talk. Easy to say when teams have played an unbalanced 3 or 4 game conference schedule to date. Once all teams have 9 games under their belt will be much easier to narrow the list. My short list has about 15 names on it right now but I can tell you that the winner will probably come from one of the top 2 or 3 teams at the end of the year.

Bengalsrule,
You're right Simmons got hosed. If you just look at the 2 SUNYAC games which happen to be a great comparison because both Simmons and Cooper played against the same 2 teams(Plattsburgh and Potsdam) Simmons averaged 24 pts, 4.5 ppg more than Cooper, shot 18x35 from the field(51.4%) slightly below Cooper's 53.9%, but a whopping 11x20 from 3 point land (55%). Cooper was 33.3% from behind the arc. The steals, assists, and rebounds were fairly even. I could see giving it to Cooper a 2nd time if there were no other noteworthy performances, but Simmons had an OUTSTANDING week and should have received the laurels. SUNYAC missed the boat on that one. But that comes as no surprise. SUNYAC site is poorly maintained. Still can't get any statistics for this years games. That's sad. :( >:( ???

Big weekend coming up. Home teams have ruled for the most part among the top 8 teams. Will that continue? I think it does.(Ihope ;D)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2010, 11:36:06 AM

Have to believe Cooper passing 1,000 point career milestone had something to do with it, yes? Along with where site is edited. And just who selects these awards anyway? Most kinda make sense

Magic: Apparently no M. Lewis injury. And speaking of vanishing acts, we were reminded of another non-factor -- senior W. Coston. Some thought in the past that athletically he had few conference peers. Kind of lost in the shuffle of many new backcourt hands

And we're not sleeping on Brockport. For sure a threat although beaten Wednesday by Robts Wes, a tough-to-get-a-handle on 8-6. Three wins have come over P. Smith and Canton. But has beaten Naz handily and played others tough. Gets UR next
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2010, 06:55:13 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 14, 2010, 11:36:06 AM

Have to believe Cooper passing 1,000 point career milestone had something to do with it, yes? Along with where site is edited. And just who selects these awards anyway? Most kinda make sense

jdex,
You're right. The 1000 pt milestone is probably why he got it. Simmons' good week was just bad timing for him. I have no clue who selects these awards. Always wondered about that.  Would think it would be more than 1 person's opinion but it could be exactly that . I'll have to check with some of my sources at the college tomorrow night when I go to the Cortland-Plattsburgh game.
Yes, Coston was another of that talented group of sopomores (along with Lewis, Evans, and Oliver) that gave the Cardinals fits twice that year. Nobody in the conference played us any tougher.(Port was equally as tough but we only played them once because of the split divsions)  With Plattsburgh losing their entire starting 5 and Port losing Sherod Harris I thought Cortland with those 4 guys returning plus Jr Carson Niehoff was a shoo in to win it all last year. And certainly would be a top contender this year.(And still think they will be despite recent setbacks.) It appears that Coston has gone from starter to the 6th choice among guards. That's a big tumble for a Senior to have to take. Strange indeed. And Brockport will be there as well. Small but extremely athletic.


By the way, live stats available for the game at this link: 

http://www.sidearmstats.com/plattsburgh/mbball/index.htm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FreddyState on January 14, 2010, 07:02:33 PM
I think Simmons should have definetly gotten the player of the week last week as well but like jdex and magicman said cooper did get the 1000 point mark ...I dont beleive any freshman has ever gotten the player of the year award in the sunyac (atleast not in the last 12 years)  I dont think any freshman has even ever made first team in the last 10 years and there has been some good high scoring freshman ...thats why they have rookie of the year awards ....But you guys are right it is way to early to talk mvp...cant wait to see what happens up in oneonta, new paltz this weekend...cortland at plattsburgh should be a good mathup as well both teams coming off some early 2nd semester loses

thanks for the link magicman i will have to check that game out
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2010, 03:32:41 AM
Current Massey ratings for SUNYAC teams:

The SUNYAC is ranked as the 15th toughest conference out of 53.

By contrast:

The Empire 8 is ranked 19th

The Liberty League is ranked 36th

The Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference is ranked 40th

The CUNY is ranked 41st

The Skyline is ranked 45th

The NEAC is ranked 51st

Massey Rankings for individual schools of 413 D3 schools

Oneonta         49
Brockport        58
Plattsburgh    135
Cortland         141
Oswego          165
Fredonia         171
Geneseo         217
buffalo            243
New Paltz       281
Potsdam         364

By contrast some of the top ranked schools in our region:

St John Fisher   26
Medaille             40
Ithaca                61
Rochester          73
NYU                    77
Stevens             79
Nazareth            82
RPI                     176
Hobarty              177
Skidmore            196
RIT                      216
SUNYIT                226
Union                  242
Clarkson             253
Utica                   254
St Lawrence       286
Hamilton             296
Alfred                  332       
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2010, 02:48:39 PM
Brockport leading Geneseo 64-47 with 8:30 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 15, 2010, 03:16:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 15, 2010, 03:32:41 AM
Current Massey ratings for SUNYAC teams:

The SUNYAC is ranked as the 15th toughest conference out of 53.

By contrast:

The Empire 8 is ranked 19th

The Liberty League is ranked 36th

The Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference is ranked 40th

The CUNY is ranked 41st

The Skyline is ranked 45th

The NEAC is ranked 51st

Massey Rankings for individual schools of 413 D3 schools

Oneonta         49
Brockport        58
Plattsburgh    135
Cortland         141
Oswego          165
Fredonia         171
Geneseo         217
buffalo            243
New Paltz       281
Potsdam         364

By contrast some of the top ranked schools in our region:

St John Fisher   26
Medaille             40
Ithaca                61
Rochester          73
NYU                    77
Stevens             79
Nazareth            82
RPI                     176
Hobarty              177
Skidmore            196
RIT                      216
SUNYIT                226
Union                  242
Clarkson             253
Utica                   254
St Lawrence       286
Hamilton             296
Alfred                  332       
 

Hey, you forgot Morrisville at 408 and Cazenovia at 413 (out of 413).

And Paul Smiths at 140 of 140 in NAIA-2.

As I try to tell kids/parents, there is a place for just about anyone.  It's finding the right fit that's the hard part
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2010, 05:26:28 PM
Brockport wins a consolation round matchup in the Wendy's Classic against Geneseo 83-69.

Eagles place 4 in double figures led by Derek Klein's 17 pts (5x10 fg, 5x9 3's, 2x2 ft). Gerald Williams with 14 pts (5x10 fg, 3x6 3's, 1x2 ft), Josh Zenkel with 13 pts (3x7 fg, 3x5 3's 4x4 ft) and Jermaine Johnson with 12 pts (3x8 fg, 0x4 3's 6x7 ft). Port took 37 of their 52 field goal attempts from beyond the arc sinking 15 of them.
Bombs away!!! 10x21 inside the arc. 18 of 21 from the charity stripe.
Tied at 12 with 13:22 left in the 1st the Eagles take control and never headed. Up by 4 at 25-21, Brockport closes out the half on a 14-4 run to go into the break leading 42-28. Blue Knights cut lead in half 43-36 early in 2nd period but Eagles quickly build it back to 13 and open it up to their largest lead of the game 64-45 with 8:42 remaining.
Geneseo led by double-double from Kyle Stevens with 16 pts (5x12 fg, 1x5 3's 5x6 ft) and 12 rebounds. Abe Miller also with a double-double of 15 pts (5x7 fg, 5x10 ft) and 12 boards. Brandon Simpson just missed his with 16 pts (8x11 fg) and 9 rebounds.Gens 27x58 from the field but only 3 of 15 from 3 point land and 12 for 26 from the line. Huge rebounding edge in Blue Knights favor 48-26 but meaningless in a 14 pt loss.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2010, 10:07:02 PM

Cortland bolts past host Plattsburgh 78-73. Leads 36-21 at the half!!! Will be interesting to get Magic's insights at that point. RDragons stretch to 17 before the Burgh launches comeback. Gets within five on several occasions, including 69-64 at 3:34 on C. Munnerlyn trey. CSt's P. Oliver responds with three-point play inside at 3:00. J. Winter hikes margin to 74-64 at 2:04. E. Daniyan gets Cards within eight at 1:54. Then scoreless till Oliver layup at 0:28. Difference at the stripe: Dragons 25x33ft, Cards 11x22ft. Corts 25x55fg, 3x12 3s. Burgh 26x46, 10x14 3s. Cortland 33-25 on the boards. Fr J. Winter 19 pts(6x9fg, 2x3 3s in 18'; Oliver 13 pts(5x7fg, 4pf in 18'; J. Smith 10 pts; B. Nagle 8 rebs. C. Ruiz 20 pts (7x14fg) in 25'; Munnerlyn 18 pts(6x7fg, 6x6 3s) in 32'; Daniyan 11 pts, 9 rebs; S. Thomas 14 pts in 34'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2010, 10:36:56 PM

New Paltz tips Buffalo State 78-65. Big news here: Bengal A. Samedi, coming off recent triple double outing, was scoreless in 10' due to 5pf. NP up 33-32 at half and with 6:05 left built 12 point gap. Had 14 point edge at 1:31. Hawks 23x65, 5x17ft, 27x37ft and paced by reserve N. Taldi's 18 pts(6x10fg, 4x4 3s), 4 rebs. J. Anderson 17 pts, 15 rebs, 3 stls; H. Wichard 14 pts, 6 rebs; S. Taylor 11 pts; O. Agyemang 8 assts, 4pf in 24'. BS goes 27x68fg, 5x18 3s, 6x14ft. TO Jackson 20 pts(9x15fg), 7 rebs; G. Carr 11 rebs; J. Simmons 19 pts(8x21fg, 3x11 3s); N. Simmons 13 pts, 5 assts, 10 rebs

Oneonta sticks it to Fredonia 68-55. RDragons see 35-29 intermission edge slip away before regaining balance and seizing 17 point lead with 4:39 left. OSt 26x61fg, 4x13 3s, 12x19ft. B. Beckford 17 pts(7x14fg), 9 rebs, 4 assts, 3 stls; B. Hooks 12 pts; K. Walsh 10 pts(5x6fg) in 19'; M. Grimes 10 pts(5x10fg), 10 rebs. Freds 17x44fg. B. Cooper 14 pts; K. Saunders 10 pts in 22'

Oswego 62, Potsdam 54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 01:03:23 AM
jdex,
Just back from the game and not happy with what I witnessed in the friendly confines of Memorial Hall. 1st half was all Cortland as they out rebounded, outshot, and outhustled the Cardinals. Tied at 13 with 11:25 left to play Red Dragons go on a 13-4 spurt over the next 5 minutes to take control and stretched their lead to 36-21 at the break by ending the half on another 10-4 run. Screen and rolls, and back door cuts accounted for a number of easy Cortland buckets. Red Dragons had 33 field goal attempts in the 1st half nearly double the Cards total of 17. Plattsburgh got hurt on the boards 19 to 14 and committed 12 turnovers to only 5 for the Corts. Jesse Winter was 3x4 fg 2x2 3's for 9 pts and Dustin Marshall (7 pts) hit 5-6 from the line to pace Cortland. Chris Ruiz led the Cardinals with 12 1st half points on 4x7 fg 2x3 3's.

The Red Dragons hit the 1st basket of the 2nd half to open up their largest lead of the night at 17 points. After a Carl Munnerlyn 3 cut it to 14 Jesse Winter's and one hoop makes it a 17 point edge for the last time. Cardinals finally start to click and go to their full court trapping press which, over the next 5 and a half minutes, whittles the lead down to 48-40. After a Cortland free throw Plattsburgh's Ketema Brooks and Munnerlyn hit back to back 3's and cut the deficit to 3 at 49-46 with 10:47 remaining. Ensuing Cortland possession Jeremy Smith is fouled by Ruiz as they try to trap him and ref calls a technical because of Ruiz' reaction to the call. Smith hits both free throws, Dragons take the ball out, Smith is fouled again, and nails 2 more foul shots building the lead back to 7 at 53-46. I think this was the real turning point of the game. Especially went Cardinals come up empty from the line on their next set and Cort"s Winter hits a pair from the stripe. Lead went from 3 to 9 in 50 seconds and Cards had expended a lot of energy to get it down to 3 pts. Three more times Plattsburgh cut the lead to 5 but Cortland had an answer every time they did and the last time was at the 3:34 mark when Cards Munnerlyn hit his 6th straight 3 pointer of the 2nd half to narrow the gap to 69-64. And one layup by Oliver followed by another easy layup by Winter and Red Dragons quickly up by 10 again. Final score of 78-73 only because Cards scored 7 pts in final 16 seconds.

Once again no sign of Will Coston in the game. I couldn't even tell if he was there because only 10 guys took their jerseys off and I never saw his number. I assume he was because Cortland dressed 16 players and that's how many were listed on the program. Spanbauer used a 9 man rotation all getting double digit minutes. 10th man Mike Lewis came into the game late in the 1st half and played a 6 minute stretch because Oliver got in foul trouble and had to go to the bench. He made about a 30 second appearance late in the second half but was scoreless (didn't take a shot) and had 2 rebounds. Winter definitely looks to be the best of the 3 freshman, good shooter with quickness to beat you off the dribble. Smith and other frosh Harrison Hefele also good players with lots of potential.

Your Red Dragons were the better team tonight and team is the key word here. They consistantly worked their half court sets and were patient until they found the open shooter or cutter many times taking the shot clock down to final seconds before getting a bucket. Made the Cards play defense much longer than the Cards made them play defense. Span subbed multiple players at a time to keep team fresh. 73 sub minutes for Corts to 47 for Cards.  Cardinals too much I've got the ball and I'm gonna score individual play, especially in the 1st half. Curle must have chewed them out good at the break because they found the open man much better in the 2nd half. And Munnerlyn was that man and he was on fire. He played 32 minutes but all 18 of his points came in 16 minutes of the 2nd half. We won the 2nd half but too little too late. Maybe Red Dragons can return the favor when Cards visit Corey Gym on Feb 13.      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 16, 2010, 01:13:36 PM
Magicman - quick question. Did you actually see Lewis play for the short stint in the second half? Would it have been with about seven minutes left? When I got the stats from Plattsburgh, Lewis had a rebound in the second half, but no time played, so I assumed the offensive rebound they gave him was a mistake and asked them to give it to Nagle instead (since he scored about 4 seconds after the rebound). If you confirm that Lewis played, however, and maybe even remember if he got one rebound, then I'll have the rebound changed back to Lewis instead of Nagle. Not a big deal, but I don't want to take away a stat from a player.

Thanks.

Fran Elia
Cortland SID
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 02:40:42 PM
Quote from: franelia on January 16, 2010, 01:13:36 PM
Magicman - quick question. Did you actually see Lewis play for the short stint in the second half? Would it have been with about seven minutes left? When I got the stats from Plattsburgh, Lewis had a rebound in the second half, but no time played, so I assumed the offensive rebound they gave him was a mistake and asked them to give it to Nagle instead (since he scored about 4 seconds after the rebound). If you confirm that Lewis played, however, and maybe even remember if he got one rebound, then I'll have the rebound changed back to Lewis instead of Nagle. Not a big deal, but I don't want to take away a stat from a player.

Thanks.

Fran Elia
Cortland SID
.
Fran,
Yes, I did see Lewis go into the game around that time but it was probably for about a 30-40 sec span and then he came back out. I can't say that I saw him grab that rebound, but do know that he played very briefly in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 02:49:32 PM
Geneseo St. tops Keuka 85-67 in the 7th place game of the Wendy's Classic. Blue Knights move to 3-9 for the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 03:42:30 PM
Brockport St. drops a 96-84 decision to Nazareth in the 6th place game of the Wendy's Classic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 05:54:29 PM
Plattsburgh St. defeats visiting Oswego St. 88-80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2010, 05:57:19 PM

Potsdam 63, Cortland 60!!

Plattsburgh scores the game's final nine points to beat Oswego 88-80. OSt with 80-79 lead at 2:47 on C. Monaghan ft. Burgh reversal on T. Farris jumper at 1:55. C. Ruiz hoop at 0:51, two C. Munnerlyn charity flips at 0:24 and three ft from E. Daniyan completes scoring. Cards by 44-43 through 20'.  Finish 32x54fg, 9x17 3s, 15x22ft, 35 reb. Munnerlyn 23 pts(6x10fg, 4x6 3s) in 35'; Daniyan 20 pts(7x11fg), 7 rebs; C. Ruiz 15 pts(6x10fg), 3x5 3s in 31'; S. Thomas 11 pts(5x10fg. Lakers 30x63fg, 7x11 3s, 13x19ft, 26 rebs. C. Burridge 28 pts(11x24fg), 6 rebs in 36'; R. Sheridan 14 pts(5x8fg, 2x3 3s; C. Monaghan 11 pts
Burridge had 29 pt (12x18fg) and 11 boards in Friday's win at Podsdam where Lakers had 27-25 halftime lead after trailing most of the half. Pdam paced by C. Pierce 17 pts(8x10fg), 6 rebs.

Earlier Saturday, Bport's J. Johns with 24 pts, 9  rebs. Eagles trail Naz 42-29 at half and later 60-37 before within 73-67. Naz C. McAdam 38 pts(9x19fg, 19x23ft) in 40'

Geneseo shoots 28x55fg, 27x35ft. B. Simpson 18 pts, 14 rebs. Gens have six in double figures. In 40-28 halftime lead vs. Keuka
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 06:04:57 PM
Fredonia defeats host New Paltz 70-59.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
jdex,

Cortland loses to Potsdam, Have you been drinking? Wow!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2010, 06:16:23 PM

We wish!! Would make it easier to swallow!!! Gulp, gulp ......

Fredonia outboards New Paltz 46-25. Freds in charge from the get-go and mount 30-23 lead at half. Lead until Hawks square it up at 11:07. NP by three till overtaken for keeps at 8:04 on B. Cooper deuce. Go on to lead by as many as 14. Devils 24x45fg. J. Kane 14 pts, 14 rebs in 30'; Cooper 14 pts(5x18fg); G. MacBride 12 pts(5x9fg, 2x2 3s); J. Bryant 11 pts. NP 21x56fg, 4x25 3s. H. Wichard 18 pts(6x13fg, 1x6 3s) in 35'; J. Anderson 15 pts(7x9fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2010, 06:18:33 PM

Oneonta 76, Buffalo St. 74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2010, 06:36:48 PM

Oneonta prevails on T. Talbot hoop in final second. Buffs apparently get off final shot after pulling even at 0:08 on three J. Simmons ft's. RDragons roll to 38-32 lead at half. Bengals up only on opening bucket. Plot thickens in final half .....pair go toe to toe, several ties, lead changes. Tied at 69 at 3:05. Talbot gives OSt edge at 2:35. B. Beckford and Hooks points keep Dragons ahead till Simmons swipes from the stripe. OSt 29x57fg, 5x10 3s, 13x21ft, 44 rebs. M. Grimes 25 pts(9x16fg), 8 rebs in 37'; Beckford 21 pts(6x10fg), 11 rebs, 4 assts. BS 26x64fg, 4x9 3s, 18x32ft, 32 rebs. TO Jackson 18 pts(8x15fg), 8 rebs; J. Simmons 17 pts(6x18fg, 2x5 3s), 5 stls; A. Samedi 13 pts, 4 blks; N. Simmons 11 pts; G. Carr 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 06:58:49 PM
SUNYAC standings through 1-16-10

SUNYAC conference page has posted a wrong score showing New Paltz beating Fredonia instead of the other way around. This also has led to the wrong W-L records. I sent them an e-mail so hopefully it should be corrected in short order

1   Brockport         4-1
1   Fredonia          4-1
3   Oneonta          5-2
4   Cortland          3-3
4   Plattsburgh     3-3
6   New Paltz       3-4
7   Buffalo            2-3
7   Geneseo         2-3
9   Oswego          2-4
10 Potsdam         1-5
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 07:07:11 PM
SUNYAC Conference web site has fixed scoring error already. That was quick!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2010, 07:40:23 PM
Also worth noting since I complained about this a few days ago. SUNYAC web site now showing Team and Individual statistic for all games through January 14th.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2010, 09:57:24 PM

Potsdam snaps eight game skid at Cortland expense. Just 1-10 into the contest, Pdamers overhaul 41-34 defict with 14:19 left. In front 45-44 at 11:12 on C. Pierce trey and build to 52-48 at 8:36. Corts back to the fore at 5:45 on fr J. Smith connection beyond the arc. And down the stretch they come  .... Bear A. Williams thievery leads to E. Cross layup and 59-58 lead at 1:26. Williams cans key layup at 0:30. Pdam by one till O. Minott charity pair posts final score at 0:09. Dragons misfire on game-closing tying bid. Bears 26x50fg, 4x13 3s, 7x10ft. Pierce 19 pts(9x12fg), 7 rebs; Minott 16 pts(6x9fg), 6 assts, 2 stls; B. Walker 11 pts. Corts -- losers of four of last five, fire at 25x50fg clip, 6x22 3s, 4x7ft. P. Oliver 11 pts (5x7fg) 4  rebs and seemingly critical 4pf in 26'; Smith 10 pts in 12'; R. Evans 10 pts(4x9fg, 2x6 3s) in 29'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 17, 2010, 04:11:20 AM
Hey Bear finally has something to be pleased about!! Potsdam cracks into win column in SUNYAC play!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 17, 2010, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 17, 2010, 04:11:20 AM
Hey Bear finally has something to be pleased about!! Potsdam cracks into win column in SUNYAC play!!

Congrats to the guys - they have been working through serious adversity and deserve this.

I'm in Anaheim helping wifey supervise 16 students. Back to the tundra next week.

Thanks for the props.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2010, 03:40:20 PM
Updated Pool C rankings of the East Region from the Pool C board on the Multi-Regional Topics page.
Includes all games through 1-17-10.
Reg #       wp       owp      oowp    RPI     Nat.  Pool        Region  OVR  Conf.     Team
E   001   0.800   0.609   0.534   0.6380   011   C   005     8-2    12-2   UAA      Rochester
E   002   0.846   0.584   0.531   0.6364   012   A   C      11-2    12-2   SUNYAC   Oneonta State
E   003   0.786   0.531   0.561   0.6023   031   A   C      11-3    12-3   E8       St. John Fisher
E   004   0.714   0.546   0.576   0.5955   038   C   020    10-4    11-5   E8       Nazareth
E   005   0.625   0.625   0.503   0.5946   040   C   021     5-3     8-4   SUNYAC   Brockport State
E   006   0.692   0.565   0.555   0.5942   041   C   022     9-4    10-4   UAA      New York University
E   007   0.750   0.551   0.520   0.5927   043   C   024     9-3    12-4   E8       Ithaca
E   008   0.636   0.620   0.484   0.5904   045   C   025     7-4     8-5   SUNYAC   Plattsburgh State

As of right now the only NCAA bid the SUNYAC would receive would be the Conference Tournament winner if that turns out to be Oneonta. If Oneonta loses in the Conference Tournament then they would probably get a Pool C bid. Of course it's still early and all these rankings could change considerably over the next 6 weeks.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2010, 10:18:18 PM
Brockport St. travels to Fredonia St. and comes away with a 53-48 win to grab sole possession of 1st place in the SUNYAC with a 5-1 record. Oneonta is in 2nd with a 5-2 record. Golden Eagles will next host Plattsburgh and Potsdam this Friday and Saturday. Fredonia now 4-2, spends the weekend at Cortland and Oswego.

Oneonta hosts New Paltz (3-4) on Friday as these two only play once this weekend.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2010, 10:26:34 PM
Buffalo State stops visiting Geneseo 77-64 to move into a 4th place tie with Plattsburgh and Cortland, all with 3-3 conference records. Bengals also make the trip to Central NY this weekend, 1st at Oswego then Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2010, 10:48:44 PM

New Paltz takes Williams to the wire before dropping 70-68 verdict. H. Wichard 3-pter has Hawks up by one at 0:26. Two free throws by J. Wang shift advantage to Ephs at 0:11. N. Taldi misses for NP at 0:03 and Williams completes scoring with ft. Williams at 15-1. Willies by 39-32 at half but Hawks soon turn the tide. A few ties and lead changes, but game stays tight. NP goes 15x27fg and 5x12 3's in 2nd half. Finishes 27x57fg, 6x19 3s, 8x12ft. S. Taylor 22 pts(10x14fg), 4pf in 28'; J. Anderson 16 pts(7x12fg, 4 assts; Wichard 16 pts(5x10fg, 4x7 3s, 6 rebs. Ephs led by T. Whittington's 19 pts(9x12fg) in 23'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2010, 11:09:08 PM

Buffalo State rolls on from 39-30 halftime control, leading by as many as 20. J. Simmons 22 pts(9x17fg, 4x9 3s); TO Jackson 15 pts, 12 rebs; A. Samedi 15 pts, 8 rebs, 6 blks; G. Carr 12 pts. Bengals 30x62fg, 6x14 3s, 11x16ft. Gens 24x59fg. B. Simpson 10 pts, 5 rebs

Brockport snaps tie at 44 on B. Williams layup and accompanying ft. Freds ahead 22-21 at halftime in ragged struggle that sees Port 9x31fg through first period. B. Williams nets 11 pts over final 5' and winds up with 20 pts(6x10fg), 6 rebs, 4 assts in 20'. G. Williams 15 pts(5x14fg, 3x9 3s). Nine Eagles see 11' or more. Ten Freds see 14' or more. B. Cooper 12 pts(4x8fg) in 16'. Port 20x58fg, 4x23 3s, 9x16ft. Freds 17x43fg, 1x11 3s, 13x20ft, 43 rebs, 28 turnvrs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2010, 11:26:34 PM
Brockport trails Fredonia 22-21 at the break and falls behind by 7 before coming back to tie the game at 37 with 8:30 left to play on two baskets by Brandon Williams and a layup and 3 pointer by Gerald Williams. B. Williams trey and free throw give Port 41-37 advantage but Freds tie it again at 44. Back comes B. Williams with a layup and 1 to give the Eagles the lead for good. Another basket  plus 2 free throws by B. Williams and a pair of free throws by G. Williams round out the Brockport scoring and seal the win.
In the last 10 minutes of the game Brandon Williams and Gerald Williams score Brockports final 24 pts. 14 by Brandon and 10 by Gerald.
Brandon finished with a game high 20 pts (6x10 fg, 1x2 3's 7x12 fg), 6 rebounds 4 assists and 2 steals in 20 min. Gerald had 15 pts (5x14 fg 3x9 3's 2x2) 3 boards and 2 steals in 28 min. Golden Eagles 20x58 fg only 4x23 3's 9x16 ft. Also got outrebounded as usual by 43 to 31 margin.
Fredonia was led by Brad Cooper with 12 pts (4x8 fg, 1x2 3's 3x3 ft) in 16 min. Greg Macbride 9 pts, 5 reb, 2asst, 2 steals 1 block in 31 min. Blue Devils shot 17x43 fg, 1x11 3's and 13x20 from the line.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2010, 08:38:20 PM
Brockport leads Plattsburgh 32-29 at the half. The fastest half I think I' ve seen or heard or watched live stats of,  all year. 30 minutes from start to finish. Cortland and Fredonia tipped off just before Plattsburgh-Brockport and had over 9 minutes left to play when Pburgh -Port was at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2010, 08:54:50 PM
Cortland St leads Fredonia St 27-21 at the half. No Brad Cooper for the Blue Devils. Maybe he got hurt in team's last game against Brockport? I noticed he only had 16 minutes in that game and he usually averages around 32.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2010, 09:36:22 PM

Cooper ailing and missed good part of Bport game, according to Freds site. Cortlands routing Devils in second half tonight
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2010, 09:42:41 PM

Pburgh/Bport head to OT at 75
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2010, 09:45:49 PM
Plattsburgh Steve Thomas hits a 3 with 10 seconds left to give Plattsburgh the lead 73-72 over Port. Port misses ensuing possession and C. Ruiz is fouled. He makes both ft's with 4 secs left but Port's J. Zenkel nails a trey at the buzzer as they head to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2010, 10:04:01 PM

Pburgh/Bport 89-89 headed to second OT. Port refusing to die ......down 86-79 with 2:06 left. B. Williams steal and layup at 0:09 knots it .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2010, 10:04:53 PM
Plattsburgh blows a 6 pt lead with 1:22 left and almost loses with 2 late turnovers giving Port last shot with 6 sec left in OT. Daniyan block sends it to Double OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2010, 10:06:55 PM
Cortland over Fredonia 56-47.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2010, 10:12:38 PM

New Paltz takes down Oneonta 77-74 at Oneonta

Geneseo gets by Potsdam 71-66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2010, 10:15:22 PM

Will try a third time ......

Cortland over Fredonia 58-47. Leads by 19 late. Gets 18 pts(7x11fg, 4x5 3s) from new starter D. Marshall. B. Nagle with 14 rebs, 6 pts; B. Manning off bench for 11 pts(5x7fg). Freds minus B. Cooper. J. Kane 13 pts, G. MacBride 10 pts. Corts 22x50fg, 7x15 3s. Freds 18x49fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 22, 2010, 10:17:33 PM
Just to confirm - 58-47 is the correct score for the Cortland-Fredonia game. A little Live Stats error at the end showed the score as "Final" too soon. Jesse Winter hit two FT's to finish the scoring. Thanks. -- Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2010, 10:26:46 PM
 Brockport jumps out to a quick lead in the 2nd OT and is never headed. Jermaine Johnson opens with layup and 1 followed by Pburgh's S.Thomas with 2 ft's. Johnson hit 4 more ft's to extend lead after Pburgh turnovers and Plattsburgh gets to within 2 98-96  on D. Tangney 3 with 15 secs to play but Johnson hit 2 more ft's to close the door 100-96 final. Tough loss for the Cards after it looked good for them in the 1st OT.  

Brockport has 5 guys in double figures: Brandon Williams with 21, Gerald Williams with 19, Jermaine Johnson with 16, Derek Klein with 11, and Zack McTigue with 10. Johnson had 10 rebounds and McTigue had 8.

Plattsburgh placed 4 guys in double figs led by Errol Daniyan who led all scorers with 27 pts and 18 rebounds. Carl Munnerlyn had 22 pts, Chris Ruiz had 17 pts, and Steve Thomas added 16 pts and 10 rebounds.

Port got killed on the boards, as usual, 50 -34 but Plattsburgh turned the ball over 10 more times than the Golden Eagles 26-16. Especially damaging was the 2 turnovers in the last 15 seconds of the 1st overtime and the 3 turnovers at the beginning of the 2nd OT. Brockport scored 35 points off the Cardinals TO's while Plattsburgh scored 20 off of Port's TO's. That's the most telling statistic of the game right there.

With Oneonta and Fredonia both losing tonight and Brockport, now 6-1 taking on last place Potsdam tomorrow the Golden Eagles will probably end the week with a 2 game lead in the SUNYAC race. Plattsburgh at Geneseo tomorrow looking to regroup after tonight's emotional loss, and hopefully even up their record at 4-4.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2010, 10:47:18 PM

New Paltz takes down another "homer." Hawks trail at Oneonta 47-38 at halftime, draw even with 13:49 left, take lead at 11:28 and hiketo eight at 8:26. Oneonta deadlocks at 2:27 but NP J. Anderson ft at 2:15 makes it 75-74. Scoreless till 0:03 and P. Carmel charity flips post final margin. OSt's B. Hooks misses at horn. T. Talbot misfires twice in final moments. NP 29x69fg. S. Taylor 23 pts(8x16fg, 3x4 3s); N. Taldi 18 pts(6x9fg, 1x3 3s); Anderson 15 pts(6x11fg); Carmel 10 pts(4x9fg) in 18'; H. Wichard 8 rebs. RDragons 25x56fg, 5x15 3s, 19x27ft. Hooks 19 pts(5x12fg, 4x11 3s); Talbot 15 pts, 6 assts; B. Beckford 12 pts, 9 rebs, 4pf in 29'; D. Hahn 10 pts; M. grimes 6 pts, 8 rebs, 5pf in 30'

Buffalo St. shoots down 41-39 Oswego halftime lead in O-land. Bengals grab lead early in second half and extend to eight point margin. Lakers within pair at 1:57 before A. Samedi connects from stripe, then J. Simmons does the same. Solid at the line down the stretch. BS 28x51fg, 3x7 3s, 17x23ft. Six in double figures: TO Jackson 16 pts(7x10fg), 10 rebs; Samedi 15 pts(4x6fg, 7x8ft); A. Hamer 12 pts(4x6fg, 2x3 3s); G. Carr 10 pts; J. Simmons 10 pts(3x11fg, 1x3 3s); J. Mitchell 10 pts. Oswego 25x69fg, 8x16 3s, 12x16 ft. C. Burridge 19 pts(7x22fg), 12 rebs; C. Monaghan 15 pts(5x12fg, 4x5 3s)

Geneseo win comes in OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2010, 11:01:20 PM

Geneseo uses B. Simpson backdoor layup on M. Baker feed at 0:03 to reach OT against guest Potsdam. Knights never trail in extra frame. Hold 33-29 halftime lead before Bears on 12-2 tear. Gens respond with 17-2 run for 52-43 advantage. Pdam go-ahead bucket at 0:22. Knight K. Stevens 26 pts(8x10fg, 5x5 3s, 5x5ft), 11 rebs; Simpson 21 pts(8x15fg); J. Segarra 11 pts(3x7 3s), 4 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 04:33:26 PM
Carl Munnerlyn, a junior guard from Plattsburgh State was named to the D3 Hoops team of the week for the week of January 11-17. Here is the write-up:

Carl Munnerlyn
Munnerlyn went 6-for-6 from three-point range in the second half against Cortland State and hit his first two against Oswego State for a streak of eight made threes in a row. He finished 12-for-17 from the field and 10-for-12 from three-point range in averaging 20.5 points.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 04:43:37 PM
Brockport and Potsdam tied at 29 as they go to the break.

Cortland up on Buffalo St 41-24 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 05:37:05 PM
Brockport pulling away from Potsdam 68-54 with 2:14 left.

Cortland over Buff St 68-54 with 55 seconds left

Oswego over Fredonia 54-39 with 3:05 remaining.

No word on the Plattsburgh Geneseo game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 05:40:06 PM
Final score Cortland 68 Buffalo St 54.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 05:46:35 PM
Final score Brockport 76 Potsdam 59. Brockport in sole possession of 1st place with at least a 2 game lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 05:48:17 PM
Final score Oswego 59 Fredonia 50.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 05:52:56 PM
Plattsburgh St downs host Geneseo St 65-58.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2010, 06:01:04 PM
The SUNYAC Standings:

1.   Brockport       7-1
2.   Oneonta        5-3
2.   Cortland        5-3
4.   Plattsburgh   4-4
4.   New Paltz     4-4
4.   Buffalo St      4-4
4.   Fredonia       4-4
8.   Oswego        3-5
8.   Geneseo       3-5
10. Potsdam       1-7   

Brockport clearly in the driver's seat. I guess size and rebounding doesn't matter when you are quick and play together as a team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2010, 06:51:35 PM
 
Brockport gets some Potsdam resistence, as in 29-29 at half and Bears striking first to open final period. Bport in switcheroo but only has four point margin at 8:58. Begins pulling away and maintains at least 10 point lead at 5:29 till closing segment. Big difference at ft stripe, Eagles 22x28 to Pdam 2x4 and 0x0 first half when it goes 7x11 3s (9x19 in all). Port paced by J. Johnson 19 pts(6x7fg) in 29'; G. Williams 17 pts(4x8fg, 3x6 3s) in 24'. Bears A. Williams 15 pts(6x14fg), 8 rebs; S. Schwartz 12 pts(4x4 3s); C. Pierce 10 pts(5x8fg), 5pf in 31'; O. Minott 7 assts; B. Walker 10 pts

Cortland gobbles up Buffalo St. early, holding 41-24 gap at intermission. R. Evans 18 pts (6x12fg, 3x7 3s) paced RDragons. D. Marshall 13 pts(5x10fg), 5 rebs; P. Oliver 12 pts, 14 rebs. Corts 25x58fg. BS 20x65fg, 3x19 3s. CSt 49-36 board grip. Bengal A. Samedi 11 pts, 5 rebs; TO Jackson 10 pts, 13 rebs; J. Simmons 6 pts(3x14fg, 0x7 3s)

Oswego cruises. Has Freds in 26-16 halftime hole that never gets under double figures the rest of the way. Lakers by 20 at one point. C. Burridge 16 pts(6x9fg) in 37'; M. McSloy 11 pts(9x10ft); J. Uribe 10 pts(4x5fg, 2x3 3s) in 20'; C. Monaghan 5 assts, 9 rebs. Freds led by S. Valenta 13 pts(6x13fg), 6 rebs; K. Mitchell 12 pts(4x7fg); J. Monahan 5 assts. OSt 17x32ft, Fred 10x12ft

Plattsbugh gathers second half steam at Geneseo after taking 24-18 charge through 20'. S. Thomas big outing with 27 pts(10x16fg, 2x3 3s, 5x5ft), 6 rebs. C. Munnerlyn 13 pts(4x7fg, 3x4 3s). Gens B. Simpson 18 pts(8x15fg); K. Stevens 14 pts(5x13fg) in 40'; M. Baker 8 assts, 6 trnvrs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2010, 06:01:04 PM
Brockport clearly in the driver's seat. I guess size and rebounding doesn't matter when you are quick and play together as a team.

  Look for the BENGALS to pound it inside tonite againest Brockport!! T. O. Jackson (SUNYACS leader [#1] in Defensive Rebounds AND "Player of the Week"), Glenroy Carr ( SUNYACS #3 Offensive Rebounder) and "Tone" Samedi (SUNYACS leader [#1] in Blocked shots) should all have a double-double! Possibly a triple-double for Samedi!

  I also believe that the BENGALS 3 guards, J. Simmons, N. Simmons and A. Hamer will protect the ball and keep Brockports 5 guard line-up (no starter over 6' 0") from achieving their double digit steals quota (B-Port has averaged over 16 steals a game in their last 3 games - all victories). However when Brockport's opponents protect the ball (i.e St Johns Fisher which beat Brockport by 17 and Nazareth which beat Brockport by 12) then Brockport's chances of winning diminish greatly. In both those losses Brockport only had 10 steals (5 each game).

School is back in session too...so look for a 8 point BENGAL victory! 87 - 79.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2010, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
"Tone" Samedi (SUNYACS leader [#1] in Blocked shots)

.....let me also add  "and ranked #1 in the NATION in Blocked Shots!!!"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2010, 06:01:04 PM
Brockport clearly in the driver's seat. I guess size and rebounding doesn't matter when you are quick and play together as a team.

 Look for the BENGALS to pound it inside tonite againest Brockport!! T. O. Jackson (SUNYACS leader [#1] in Defensive Rebounds AND "Player of the Week"), Glenroy Carr ( SUNYACS #3 Offensive Rebounder) and "Tone" Samedi (SUNYACS leader [#1] in Blocked shots) should all have a double-double! Possibly a triple-double for Samedi!

Somebody needs to ground the Golden Eagles or they'll fly off with the regular season crown and leave the rest of us fighting for a decent seed in the playoffs. Playoffs that will take place at Tuttle North Gym. The good news is Brockport plays 6 of their last 10 SUNYAC games on the road. Go Bengals!
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
Cortland leads visiting Oneonta 30-27 at the half.

Brockport beating host Buffalo St 34-26 with 3 mins left in the 1st half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2010, 09:36:05 PM

Cortland and Oneonta to OT at 54 apiece
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 10:01:25 PM
Cortland wins it in OT 66-61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2010, 10:03:17 PM
Cortland gets key win at home over Oneonta 66-61 in OT to stay within sight of first place Brockport. CSt by 30-27 at half. Oneonta's M. Grimes trey at 0:57 in reg gets 54-54 finish through 40'. Hosts quickly by four in OT. B. Beckford pulls Oneonta even at 61. J. Winter gives CSt lead at 0:35 and free throws by D. Marshall and B. Nagle finish things off. Marshall 18 pts(6x11fg, 6 rebs; Winter 12 pts(5x8fg, 6 assts; Nagle 11 rebs. Grimes 17 pts(6x13fg), 8 rebs; B. Hooks 14 pts; B. Beckford 12 pts; K. Walsh 8 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 10:07:12 PM
Brockport up 69-64  over Buffalo Stwith 2 minutes to play iin the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 10:19:41 PM
 Brockport rolls on 74-68 over the Bengals and moves to 8-1 after they complete the 1st half of SUNYAC play. They will hold a 2 game lead over Cortland who moved to 6-3 with their win over Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2010, 10:24:39 PM
Oswego stops New Paltz 70-54. Lakers 27-24 at half and never pushed in final period. Take double figure lead midway and stretch to 23 at one stage. OSt 29x64fg, 5x6ft. NP 19x56fg, 1x19 3s, 15x21ft. C. Monaghan 20 pts(9x13fg), 7 rebs, 4 assts in win. C. Burridge 15 pts(7x15fg); R. Sheridan 11 pts(4x9fg, 3x6 3s), 5 assts; S. Francois 10 pts. Oswego 39-34 boards. NP J. Anderson 15 pts(7x10fg); S. Taylor 11 pts; H. Wichard 10 pts

Fredonia over Geneseo 65-62. Freds 35-29 at half and continue to hold slim advantage. Gens within one at 1:25 on K. Stevens layup and ft. Scoreless till Devil J. Monahan ft pair at 0:08 completes pointmaking. Monahan 20 pts(6x11fg, 4x7 3s), 6 rebs; S. Valenta 17 pts(8x9fg), 8 rebs; J. Kane 11 pts; K. Mitchell 11 pts. For Gens it's B. Simpson 15 pts(6x17fg), 6 rebs; A. Miller 15 pts; Stevens 12 pts; M. Baker 11 pts, 3 stls; J. Blair 5 stls
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2010, 10:31:09 PM

Plattsburgh 94, Potsdam 75
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 26, 2010, 10:31:09 PM

Plattsburgh 94, Potsdam 75

Thank you jdex, hadn't heard a word out of Potsdam on that game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 10:49:59 PM
The SUNYAC Standings after the 1st round robin:

1.   Brockport       8-1
2.   Cortland        6-3
3.   Plattsburgh    5-4
3.   Oneonta        5-4
3.   Fredonia        5-4
6.   New Paltz      4-5
6.   Buffalo St      4-5
6.   Oswego         4-5
9.   Geneseo        3-6
10. Potsdam         1-8  

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
Plattsburgh grabs double digit lead midway through the 1st half and go into the break up 43-35. Cards open up early in the 2nd and grab an 18 point lead extending it to 23 at 82-59 with just under 5 minutes left, as they coast to final margin of 94-75.

Steve Thomas led the Cardinals, matching his season high of 27 pts (9x18 fg, 0x4 3's, 9x11 ft). He added 9 rebounds 4 assists and 2 blocks. Carl Munnerlyn followed with 22 pts (6x12 fg, 5x7 3's, 5x6 ft). Chris Ruiz added 20 pts (8x15 fg, 2x5 3's, 2x2 ft) and Errol Danniyan had a double-double with 12 pts (6x9 fg) and 10 rebounds. Cards shot 34x64 from the field 7x18 from behind the arc and 19x28 from the line. They won the battle of the boards 39-24.

Potsdam's Curtis Pierce tied Thomas for scoring honors with 27 pts, hitting 10 of 12 shots from the field and 7 of 9 from the charity stripe. Anthony Williams added 19 pts (7x13 fg, 1x3 3's, 4x6 ft) and led the Bears with 7 rebounds. Olando Minott chipped in with 16 pts (6x9 fg, 1x1 3's, 1x1 ft and dished out 5 assists. Bears shot 28x52 from the field, 5x14 3's and 14x18 ft.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2010, 11:47:13 PM

Brockport takes down homestanding Buffalo St. behind mighty bench play featuring  A. Hall's 12 pts(4x4 3s); Z. McTigh 12 pts(5x7fg in 12'; and A. Marchand 10 pts(4x9fg, 2x3 3s) in 19'. Port 40-33 at half and builds 13 point gap at 7:49. Buffs back to five at 3:10, three at 1:45 before McTigh hoop, and three at 1:10 on N. Simmons layup prior to Bport's J. Johnson bucket at 0:33 and ft at 0:22 to wrap it up. Johnson 15 pts, 10 rebs, 4 asts, 4 stls; B. Williams 5 assts, 5 stls. Port 25x55fg, 8x16 3s, 16x27ft. BS 20x47fg, 2x10 3s, 26x38ft, 25 trnvrs. A. Samedi 15 pts(6x8fg), 8 rebs; TO Jackson 14 pts(10x16ft), 11 rebs, 8 trnvrs; J. Simmons 12 pts; J. Mitchell 10 pts(4x7fg) in 15'

Plattsburgh keyed by S. Thomas 27 pts, E. Daniyan 10 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2010, 06:56:50 AM
Some observations at the halfway point of conference play:

The biggest story is the 1st place Brockport Golden Eagles. The biggest part of the biggest story is how small these guys are. Eight different players have started a game during the course of the season and not 1 of them is taller than 6 feet. They have been out-rebounded in every game they've played except one, their 1st game against Geneseo, (they had 32 boards to Geneseo's 31). The second time they played the Blue Knights, in the Wendy's Classic, Brockport lost the battle of the boards 48-26 and won the game 83-69. In over 60 % of their games they got outboarded by double digits but still went 6-4 in those 10 games (5-1 in SUNYAC games). For the season they've grabbed 465 rebounds to their opponents 632. That's a 29.0 average for Port and 39.5 average for their opponents. They've been outshot from the field (46.7% to 41.1%) and even though they're getting killed on the boards, and getting outshot they have 172 more field goal attempts and 28 more made baskets than the opposition. They are also behind their opponents at the foul line. Brockport has a slightly better free throw percentage 67.3% to 66.2%, but gets to the line less times than the competition, 20 attempts to 24 and makes 13.5 free throws per game to the opposition's 16.3. So how do these guys keep winning? Three reasons. 1. They commit 12.5 turnovers per game, and their defense creates 22.0 TO's per game. 2. They outscore you from 3 pt. land. Eagles shoot 34% to 29% and make 8.2 treys a game to 3.9 for their opponents. 3. They have over twice as many steals as the opposition. 12.6 steals per game to 6.1. So getting 10 more turnovers and 6 more steals results in an average of 10 extra possessions per game, along with 4 more made 3 pointers. I guess that's how you get off more shots than the other team despite the rebounding problems. I still think it's smoke and mirrors ;) ;D  But you gotta love a team that plays the game with this kind of effort. Statistics used for Brockport include Tuesday night's game against Buffalo St.

Home court has been a huge factor in the league this year (as usual) Here's the schedule showing how the teams have fared at home, on the road, and where they play their remaining games.

                        Games  Played         Games Left To Play
     Team            Home       Away        Home      Away

1.   Brockport       5-0           3-1             4           5
2.   Cortland        5-1            1-2             3          6            
3.   Plattsburgh    1-1           4-3             7          2
3.   Oneonta        3-2            2-2             4          5
3.   Fredonia        4-1            1-3             4          5
6.   New Paltz      2-2            2-3             5          4
6.   Buffalo St      3-1             1-4             5          4
6.   Oswego         3-4            1-1             2          7
9.   Geneseo        2-2            1-4             5          4
10. Potsdam         1-2            0-6            6          3  

Only 2 teams have a winning record on the road. Brockport and Plattsburgh.
Plattsburgh Cardinals were the road warriors in the 1st half but will now have an edge with 7 of their last 9 at home. Cortland and Oswego are the only places they will visit. Cards failure to put away the Golden Eagles in double OT last Friday when given 2 chances to do so will probably come back to haunt them big time. That and the overtime loss to the Bengals could very well have cost them any chance to host the SUNYAC tournament. Falling 3 games off the lead isn't impossible to make up, but they will need help. And Brockport as good as they've been on the road will be tough to catch. Plus they get 2 of those remaining road games against the 9th and 10th place teams. Cortland could be hard pressed to hang onto 2nd place with 6 of their final 9 games on the road. And 3 of those games are at Port, Oneonta, and Fredonia. The other Red Dragons, Oneonta, have won the 2 road games they should have and lost 2 road games to the top pair, that could have went either way. The bigger problem was losing the games at home to Plattsburgh (where they gave up a 9 pt lead with 3:44 to go) and the loss to New Paltz last Friday. They could go 4-1 in the last 5 road games but need to take down the top pair at home. Oswego has the worst remaining schedule, hosting only 2 more games, against Plattsburgh and Potsdam. I think they'll struggle to climb any higher than 6th place by the end of the year. Fredonia and Buff St. have both shown an inability to win on the road, so it's hard to figure the 2nd half will be much better. I think the best they do is get 2 road wins apiece. New Paltz is hard to guage. One minute they're almost beating the #4 ranked team in the country, or taking down Oneonta on the road, and the next time you check, they're getting beat by double digits at home against Fredonia or dropping a double digit game on the road at Oswego. They could go 2-2 on the road in their final 4 trips but the good news is they face 3 of the top 4 teams at home where they'll need to do some damage to get back into the race. Geneseo and Potsdam will battle to see who avoids the cellar, but also to see which one might catch Oswego. The Blue Knights certainly have the upper hand with a 2 game lead over the Bears. Geneseo does have a chance to claim the 8th and final playoff spot because of Oswego's brutal schedule, but they need to take care of business this Friday, when they host the Lakers, who have revenge on their mind after dropping a 1 point decision to Geneseo back in December. Potsdam with 6 home games remaining can certainly play the spoiler if someones comes into Jerry Welch Gym  thinking they can sleepwalk through an easy victory. Just ask Cortland.

Just some thoughts to give you guys something to mull over. How about some chatter back.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on January 27, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
That's unreal about Brockport.  Very unconventional and I wonder if they are playing this style out of necessity or choice?  Do they simply not have any big men to play and adapted the style to fit their roster?  I haven't seen Brockport play the last few years and aren't familiar with the program. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2010, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on January 27, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
That's unreal about Brockport.  Very unconventional and I wonder if they are playing this style out of necessity or choice?   

Brockport in 1 word......."HAVOC".

  Having watched them do in my beloved BENGALS, last nite, I find that's the best way to describe their play. They started 5 guys 6 feet or shorter and hit 6 three pointers ...in the first half.

1 - They are the poster children for how to play helpside defense.

2 - They double anything approaching the lane

3 - Any big men-with the ball within 15 feet of the basket get double teamed.

4 - They substitute in WAVES. No less than 2 subs every 3-4 minutes.

5 - Offensively they are an "E.O.S.T." -  Equal Opportunity Shooting Team. Everyone has the green lite to fire away.

My hat is off to them because, FOR NOW, thier system works and they believe in it.
Its gonna be interesting how teams adapt to their style when they see Brockport a 2nd time! This Friday, the 2nd half of the SUNYAC schedule begins and Brockport heads to Cortland (which is responsible for their 1 loss to date in SUNYAC).

Personally I am  looking forward to our 2/16 visit to Brockport!!

P.s. Magicman.. Thanks for the "Go BENGALS" yesterday. Sorry we did not come through!!


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2010, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on January 27, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
That's unreal about Brockport.  Very unconventional and I wonder if they are playing this style out of necessity or choice?  Do they simply not have any big men to play and adapted the style to fit their roster?  I haven't seen Brockport play the last few years and aren't familiar with the program. 

bomber 3,
They have 2 guys that are 6'5" both seniors. One of them averages 13.6 minutes a game and has 4.1 ppg and 3.4 rpg. He's their best "big option". The other 6'5" guy has played only 1 minute all year. They have 2 guys 6'3" one is a junior, other a frosh. together they have played a total of 13 minutes all year. And finally they have 2 guys that are 6'2". One is getting the 9th most playing time with 13 minutes a game and averages 3.7ppg and 1.4rpg. The other guy is 11th on the team in minutes played, 7.0 per game and has scored 7 points all year. So I think, in answer to your question, that it's a  little bit of both. They're very athletic and quick, which gives them their best chance to win, and they don't have a sufficient number of big men to field a traditional lineup.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2010, 05:33:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2010, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on January 27, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
That's unreal about Brockport.  Very unconventional and I wonder if they are playing this style out of necessity or choice?   

Brockport in 1 word......."HAVOC".

  Having watched them do in my beloved BENGALS, last nite, I find that's the best way to describe their play. They started 5 guys 6 feet or shorter and hit 6 three pointers ...in the first half.

1 - They are the poster children for how to play helpside defense.

2 - They double anything approaching the lane

3 - Any big men-with the ball within 15 feet of the basket get double teamed.

4 - They substitute in WAVES. No less than 2 subs every 3-4 minutes.

5 - Offensively they are an "E.O.S.T." -  Equal Opportunity Shooting Team. Everyone has the green lite to fire away.

My hat is off to them because, FOR NOW, thier system works and they believe in it.
Its gonna be interesting how teams adapt to their style when they see Brockport a 2nd time! This Friday, the 2nd half of the SUNYAC schedule begins and Brockport heads to Cortland (which is responsible for their 1 loss to date in SUNYAC).

Personally I am  looking forward to our 2/16 visit to Brockport!!

P.s. Magicman.. Thanks for the "Go BENGALS" yesterday. Sorry we did not come through!!



Bengalsrule,
Good description of Brockport. They don't make the trip up to the North Country until February 19th and 20th, so you'll see them again before we get a 2nd crack at them. We let one get away last Friday but they got a break at the end of regulation. Plattsburgh's Ruiz hits 2 free throws with 4 seconds left to give Plattsburgh a 3 pt lead and of course the Cardinal's Coach Curle wants to foul so Port doesn't get off a game tying 3 pointer. Zenkel has the ball for Brockport and we foul him at mid-court but refs don't blow the whistle and he buries the trey, sending it to OT.
Your Bengals played them tough last night and made a nice comback to get within 3 on several occasions late in the game. I was listening to the audio feed on my computer but I only have dial-up and the feed was breaking up on me. Looks like the backbreaker was after N. Simmons scored to cut it to 71-68 with 1:10 left, Port used all of the 35 second clock and J. Johnson scored for Brockport with the shot clock winding down to make it a 5 pt lead with 33 seconds left. Good luck this weekend against Fredonia and Geneseo. Hey whatever happened to Freddy State? Haven't heard from him in quite a while. :o ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on January 27, 2010, 05:41:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 27, 2010, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on January 27, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
That's unreal about Brockport.  Very unconventional and I wonder if they are playing this style out of necessity or choice?  Do they simply not have any big men to play and adapted the style to fit their roster?  I haven't seen Brockport play the last few years and aren't familiar with the program. 

bomber 3,
They have 2 guys that are 6'5" both seniors. One of them averages 13.6 minutes a game and has 4.1 ppg and 3.4 rpg. He's their best "big option". The other 6'5" guy has played only 1 minute all year. They have 2 guys 6'3" one is a junior, other a frosh. together they have played a total of 13 minutes all year. And finally they have 2 guys that are 6'2". One is getting the 9th most playing time with 13 minutes a game and averages 3.7ppg and 1.4rpg. The other guy is 11th on the team in minutes played, 7.0 per game and has scored 7 points all year. So I think, in answer to your question, that it's a  little bit of both. They're very athletic and quick, which gives them their best chance to win, and they don't have a sufficient number of big men to field a traditional lineup.  

Thanks - I'd be interested in seeing them play but they don't usually schedule many E8 teams except maybe Fisher.  Reminds me of when Kean played Ithaca several years ago in Ithaca.  They played 15 guys - no joke.  Subbed in waves - about 3 or 4 at a time - and pressed the entire game.  They were a pretty athletic team and made use of it.  Ithaca hit a game tying buzzer beater 3 to send it to overtime.  With IC up one Kean got fouled with something like 0.2 seconds on the clock and nailed both FTs to win by one.  But I digress....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2010, 10:34:11 PM

Magic, nice night of research judging by the post time ......6:30 AM. My gawd!!!!! Enjoyed the factual figurin'. No arguments here. Now tis time for all to answer the bell on the court, and see how THOSE numbers stack up.

Remember another crew that didn't get "short" shrifted?? Rupp's Runts from days of yore. Yes, yes, we date ourselves! We remember for no other reason than a member of that famed troupe was New Yorker Pat Riley of Schenectady

Aside to Bengalsrule, Friday's Cortland/Brockport match at the Port
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2010, 02:25:47 AM
jdex,
Rupp's Runt's 1965-66, I remember them well. That's the team that lost to Texas Western in the championship game. It was my 1st year in college, I was a runt myself,(5'7") playing JV basketball, and spent every free moment in the gym. Kareem was Lew Alcindor and as a freshman at UCLA that year he couldn't play on the varsity so UCLA's chance at a threepeat was gone. Rupp's Runts were considered small by D1 standards, but they tower over this Brockport team. The Runts had 2 guys 6'5"(center and guard), 2 guys 6'4"(Riley and the other forward), and 6'0" guard Louie Dampier. Thanks for the memories! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 11:52:48 AM

And closer to home -- at least then, were Roy's Runts of Syracuse in the early to mid-70s. The almost home-grown (Windsor) Lee brothers, home grown M. Wadach, along with D. Duval, Bug Williams, etc. Of course, there was a bit of size there, too, such as R. Hackett, B. Doom, etc. Boeheim on board as an aide. Reached '75 Final Four

Aside II: QB Riley's Schenectady Linton HS coach was Cortland product Dick "Conky" Lalla, who considered Riley perhaps a better footballer. And, in fact, he was a Dallas draftee. Apparently took the right other road
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 12:17:02 PM

Roy's Runts of Roy Danforth ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 29, 2010, 04:18:55 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 29, 2010, 11:52:48 AM

Aside II: QB Riley's Schenectady Linton HS coach was Cortland product Dick "Conky" Lalla, who considered Riley perhaps a better footballer. And, in fact, he was a Dallas draftee. Apparently took the right other road

Actually, jdex, Pat Riley's Linton High coach was Walt Przybylo, who, yes, is a Cortland grad (and in the C-Club Hall of Fame here):
http://www.cortlandreddragons.com/hof.aspx?hof=151

I know this mainly because I, too, am a Linton grad (albeit about 20 or so years after Riley). I've been very fortunate to meet Riley on two occasions (once in high school and once in 2000 at a Schenectady City School District Hall of Fame dinner).

In his acceptance speech at the Hall of Fame dinner, he talked about Przybylo by saying ""He knocked the cigarette out of my mouth and changed my life" and "He was an incredible human being. He was absolutely the kind of man who could inspire people to go above and beyond. He could get you to run through a wall. He was an incredible man -- his family was my second family."

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 05:12:25 PM

Yea, Fran, knew that. Guess we should have been more specific in tying the Riley connections to the two Cortlanders -- Linton football to Cortland High product (and All-East Colgate qb) Lalla, and Linton hoops to Cortland State's Przybylo. Lalla recalled Riley as quite the 'hood' of the day (now there's a '50s/60s blast from the past) -- a biker with a smoke in hand.  And now ...... for F. Elia's induction (the kid did good!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 08:49:00 PM

Quick half at Brockport where Cortland leads 36-29

Plattsburgh all over Oneonta 40-24 at the break
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2010, 09:16:56 PM
Any update on Buff State and Fredonia? I was too sick to go the game and the damn audio on my computer aint working!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 09:43:50 PM

Cortland holds off Brockport 76-68 after leading 50-30 with 14:13 left. Again, strange numbers .......Bport 7x34 3s to CSt 9x20. Corts with 47-27 reb bulge. RDragons 23 turnovers to Port's 8. Guests have enough ft fuel in final minutes after Bport within 72-66 on G. Williams trey at 1:03
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 09:58:28 PM

Geneseo ekes out 68-66 win over Oswego

Plattsburgh over Oneonta 78-56
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 10:06:50 PM

Potsdam clips New Paltz 71-52

Buffalo St. trims Fredonia 70-67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2010, 10:53:52 PM

Cortland gets production from many hands to turn back homestanding Brockport. D. Marshall 16 pts, 7 rebs in 34'; B. Manning 14 pts in 21'; J. Winter 12 pts in 32'; J. Smith 10 pts in 18'; P. Oliver 9 pts, 14 rebs in 32'; B. Nagle 11 rebs, 6 assts, 2 blks; R. Evans 9 pts in 16'. Dragons 25x50fg, 17x23ft after 4x4 at half, 17 assts. Port 24x68 with nearly half attempts from beyond the arc. Goes 13x18ft, 13 steals. G. Williams 14 pts, 4pf in 24'; F. Lantigua 12 pts in 22'; B. Williams 11 pts in 24'; J. Johnson 9 pts, 7 rebs in 31'. Port sees seven point half deficit go to 20. Quickly scrap back. Forces CSt to hit from the line for most part. Winter and Marshall stem tide

Plattsburgh all over Oneonta, which never seriously challenges after 16 point gap at half. Cards 31x66fg to OSt 20x52. C. Ruiz 19 pts(8x14fg, 2x3 3s) in 30'; C. Munnerlyn 17 pts(6x8fg, 3x4 3s), 4 assts; S. Thomas 17 pts (7x12fg), 5 rebs in 23'; E. Daniyan 14 pts(6x12fg), 5 rebs. Oneonta's B. Beckford 16 pts(6x16fg), 8 rebs in 25'; M. Grimes 7 pts(2x7fg) in 32'

Buffalo State and Fredonia have 20 lead changes and 11 ties, the last at 65 when Freds J. Kane scores layup at 1:19. Bengal J. Simmons trey the game winner at 0:47. Two S. Valenta free throws bring Freds within 69-67 at 0:15. N. Simmons gets BS final point two seconds later. No indication Fredonia able to get off final bid. Tied at 30 midway into the test. BS 24x53fg, 4x12 3s, 18x30ft. N. Simmons 17 pts(5x14fg, 7x9ft), 7 rebs, 3 assts in 36'; J. Simmons 16 pts(6x11fg, 4x7 3s) in 27'; A. Samedi 13 pts(5x6fg), 6 rebs; A. Hamer 9 pts, 4 stls. Devils 26x50fg, 6x14 3s, 9x14ft. Also have 19 assts to hosts four. Kane 15 pts(6x13fg), 5 assts; G. MacBride 11 pts(5x5fg), 7 assts, 5pf in 36'. No B. Cooper

Geneseo over Oswego on B. Simpson jumper at 0:03. M. Baker gets last of six assists, Simpson last of 22 pts(10x16fg), 7 rebs in 38'. Gens by 33-25 at half and extend to 12 early in final stanza. Oswego within one at 8:01 and two at 1:38. Knights always a step ahead till OSt's S. Michele nets trey at 0:11 to tie. Gens 30x56fg, 0x7 3s. Baker 14 pts(5x8fg); J. Scott 11 pts(5x6fg) in 11'; A. Miller 10 pts, 5 rebs; K. Stevens 8 pts, 6 rebs. Oswego 24x52fg, 7x25 3s. C. Monaghan 12 pts(5x13fg); R. Sheridan 11 pts(3x7 3s); S. Francois 11 pts(5x7fg), 6 rebs; C. Burridge 8 pts(3x6fg) in 35'

Potsdam batters New Paltz with 26x37fg accuracy! Bears by 34-21 at half and widen to as many as 24 points. Pdam 5x8 3s, 14x18ft. C. Pierce 17 pts(7x8fg), 8 rebs in 31'; A. Williams 16 pts(5x7fg, 2x2 3s); E. Cross 13 pts(5x5fg, 3x3 3s) in 17'; B. Walker 10 pts(5x7fg); O. Minott 9 pts. NP 23x49fg, 4x17 3s, 2x7ft. S. Taylor 10 pts(4x8fg); J. Anderson 10 pts(5x5fg) in 24'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2010, 11:06:42 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh St-Oneonta St. game and what I expected to be a battle turned out to be an easy win for the Cardinals. Plattsburgh jumps out to a quick 6-0 lead on 2 treys by Chris Ruiz annd after a Brian Beckford jumper for Oneonta, Carl Munnerlyn hits a 3 pointer to give the Cards an early 9-2 advantage that they would never relinquish. Cards quickly build lead to double figures and lead 17-4 with 12:00 remaining in the half. Oneonta cut it to 19-9 at the 10:09 mark but that was as close as they got the rest of the night. Cards cruised in the break up 40-24 and quickly extended it to 46-25 to open up the 2nd half. A Brian Hooks trey got Oneonta within 13 at 60-4 with 9:21 to play but 6 straight pts by Plattsburgh built it backto 19 at the 8:00 minute mark. Every time Oneonta scored , the Cards had an answer and with 4:34 to play and the Cards up 73-51 Oneonta's Coach Medici threw in the towel and emptied the bench. Card's Coach Curle did likewise and the reserves finished up for the 78-56 final score.
Plattsburgh placed 4 players in double figures led by Chris Ruiz(8x14 fg, 2x3 3's, 1x1 ft) who also added 4 rebounds and 3 assists. 17 points were scored by both Carl Munnerlyn (6x8 fg, 3x5 3's, 2x2 ft, 4 asst) and Steve Thomas (7x12 fg, 0x2 3's, 3x5 ft, 5 reb, 3 asst). Errol Daniyan added 14 pts (6x12 fg, 2x4 ft, 5 reb).
Cardinals shot 31x66 fg, (47%) 5x12 3's and 11x19 from the stripe. Both teams hauled down 38 rebounds. Plattsburgh only committed 8 turnovers while Oneonta had 15.
Red Dragons were led by Brian Beckford with 16 points((6x16 fg, 0x2 3's, 4x12 ft 8 rebounds) No other player hit double digits. Oneonta had a poor 1st half shooting the ball only 9x29 for 31% but picked it up in the 2nd period going 11x23 for an overall 20x52 (38.5%). Brian Hooks made their only 3 pointers hitting 3 of 6 as the team only took 9  attempts from behind the arc. Trouble at the foul line also hurt the Red Dragons as they only made 13 of 30 attemptts.

Plattsburgh improves to 6-4 in the YAC and  takes over sole possession of 3rd place. Oneonta drops to 5-5 and is now tied with Buffalo St. for 4th place. Oneonta travels to Potsdam for a Sat. afternoon game with the Bears, while Plattsburgh hosts New Paltz at 4PM tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 29, 2010, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 29, 2010, 05:12:25 PM

Yea, Fran, knew that. Guess we should have been more specific in tying the Riley connections to the two Cortlanders -- Linton football to Cortland High product (and All-East Colgate qb) Lalla, and Linton hoops to Cortland State's Przybylo. Lalla recalled Riley as quite the 'hood' of the day (now there's a '50s/60s blast from the past) -- a biker with a smoke in hand.  And now ...... for F. Elia's induction (the kid did good!)

Sorry, jdex - I should know by know not to question you!!  :)  I didn't recognize Lalla's name, and the coincidence with Riley having two "Cortland" influences was something I never knew. Thanks for the history lesson!! I will now go to a classroom and write "I will not doubt jdex again" 100 times on the blackboard. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2010, 12:10:37 AM
Quote from: franelia on January 29, 2010, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 29, 2010, 05:12:25 PM

Yea, Fran, knew that. Guess we should have been more specific in tying the Riley connections to the two Cortlanders -- Linton football to Cortland High product (and All-East Colgate qb) Lalla, and Linton hoops to Cortland State's Przybylo. Lalla recalled Riley as quite the 'hood' of the day (now there's a '50s/60s blast from the past) -- a biker with a smoke in hand.  And now ...... for F. Elia's induction (the kid did good!)

Sorry, jdex - I should know by know not to question you!!  :)  I didn't recognize Lalla's name, and the coincidence with Riley having two "Cortland" influences was something I never knew. Thanks for the history lesson!! I will now go to a classroom and write "I will not doubt jdex again" 100 times on the blackboard. :)

franelia,
As jdex once told me, he's older than dirt, he forgot to add, and still sharp as a tack. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 30, 2010, 12:54:40 AM
Bear must be estatic!!! Potsdam notches win 2.  I swear it seems like there is a "Grinnell" model team in every league! Run, chuck, & sub baby!!  d ?  What d?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2010, 01:03:53 AM
And where has "the bear" been hibernating? A definite sighting over on the E8 board earlier Friday but nary a whiff of him over here. After the big upset of Cortland 2 weeks ago and the blowout of New Paltz Friday evening I expected a growl or two. I know about the west coast trip but that doesn't explain his lengthy absences.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 30, 2010, 01:31:08 AM
Probably flying low under radar until his "team" sneaks into the 8th spot - runs the table and turns into the "dancing bears"!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2010, 05:31:31 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 30, 2010, 01:31:08 AM
Probably flying low under radar until his "team" sneaks into the 8th spot - runs the table and turns into the "dancing bears"!! :D

Good one with age, I agree completely. Plus k. And that oughta elicit a comment or two outa him. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 30, 2010, 09:28:35 AM
I'm here, just being appropriately humble.

Bears played their best game of the season last night.

Really like first year player Curtis Pierce, 6-3 forward.  Reminds me of Mo Woods, key in some of the great 80's teams, takes good shots, knows how to finish, and despite his size is a force on the boards.  He's averaging 13ppg & shooting 67% from the floor, def a contender for conference rookie of the year.

Team really had a balanced effort, 13 point effort in 17' by Eddie Cross was huge.   Anthony Williams Jr, Ben Walker, and Olando Minott all had solid games.

I think that the Bears may have taken the Brockport post on this board to heart, they played an active zone most of the game, didn't foul, worked the ball for good shots (70% from the floor), took decent care of the ball,  and held their own on the boards, despite giving up size at every spot.  They held NP to 25 points under their season scoring average.

All this & they played without top 3 pt threat Skip Schwartz, (10 ppg 46% 3FG%) who was on the bench in street clothes, but is expected to play today.

This game was a 50 point turnaround from the first semester meeting at New Paltz.

Bears have 8 conference games left - 5 at home, 3 away ('burgh, Corts, Oswego).  They have already played everyone at least once, so know what to expect.  My guess is with the parity in the SUNYAC this year, it could take 7 wins for the #8 spot.  Still doable given the results this season and the schedule.  Dobbs & Co are working hard.  Lots of teams would have folded long ago.

Oneonta comes to town this afternoon, probably looking to salvage something from their all expenses paid weekend tour of the frozen tundra (Overnight low here was -14 (NOT wind chill).)  Similar matchup, Oneonta has lots of size, scorers, shooters, athletes.

With a full moon tonight, As the zen master says "We'll See"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2010, 02:56:28 PM
Sometimes you just have to poke a bear with a stick to get a reaction!! ;)  Glad to see you're back. Sounds like the Pierce kid will have a bright future, if he's getting a Mo Woods comparison. Good to hear some positives coming out of Potsdam. Now Dobbs has to bring in some decent recruits next year and get the program back on track. It's been a tough year after the losses of the big men that were supposed to be there.

Oneonta is going to come to play today, so the Bears will have their work cut out for them. I imagine the Red Dragon coach chewed them out pretty good after the whipping the Cards put on them last night. Plattsburgh just outhustled them and held them to 13 pts below their scoring average. Shoud have been an even bigger margin as Cards missed at least 4 wide open dunks. I expected a barn burner and in that respect it was disappointing, but good to see Plattsburgh put it all together for a change. They played a solid game last week against Potsdam but I didn't travel over for the game. Two good back to back efforts for them, hope it's the beginning of a nice run up to the playoffs. Still a chance the Cards can host the tournament, but we need to be perfect and still will need help. The Feb. 20th game against the Golden Eagles looms large. Good luck today. Go Bears!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 04:41:17 PM

Looking all too familiar ------Cortland losing 28-23 at the half at Geneseo. Gens have to be seriously focused after early December crushing defeat at CSt where RDragons were 52-14 halftime leaders

New Paltz comes back from early hole to lead host Plattsburgh by four with about six minutes left till half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 04:55:17 PM

New Paltz with 45-37 lead at Plattsburgh at half

Brockport up 35-30 over Oswego thru 20'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 05:32:47 PM

Cortland trails entire second half till D. Marshall putback at 0:02 sends game at Geneseo to OT .......61-61

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 05:36:43 PM

Brockport sinks Oswego 76-61

New Paltz by six at Plattsburgh with 9' left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 05:50:23 PM

Cortland and Geneseo go to 2nd OT at 65-65

New Paltz holds 73-70 lead at Plattsburgh with 3' left in reg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 06:08:12 PM

Cortland explodes in second OT for 87-73 win at Geneseo. RDragons sparked by D. Marshall, J. Winter and B. Manning in big session. P. Oliver with 20 pts before dq'd on pf in first ot. B. Simpson 16 pts, K. Stevens 15 pace Gens who let late reg lead slip away
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 06:12:02 PM

New Paltz finds its game in Plattsburgh, wins 81-77

Oneonta halts losing ways with 79-66 dispatch of Potsdam
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 06:41:13 PM

Dogged Cortland performace. Plays from behind nearly entire regulation. Geneseo answers every second half threat and leads by as many as seven. Has four point edge with 0:34 left on M. Baker free throws. P. Oliver narrows count for Corts at 0:28 and D. Marshall returns mate's missed shot at 0:02 for 61-61 tie. First OT concludes 65-65 before CSt goes on early and often strikes in second 5'. Corts 29x73fg, 5x24 3s, 24x27ft. Gens 32x74fg, 6x22 3s, 3x10ft. Corts with 52-38 reb margin. D. Marshall 20 pts(7x14fg, 2x7 3s), 10 rebs, 8 assts, 3 stls in 43'; P. Oliver 20 pts(7x15fg), 9 rebs; B. Nagle 10 pts, 12 rebs in 45'; B. Manning 14 pts; J. Winter 13 pts. Blue Knight K. Stevens 17 pts(7x16fg, 3x6 3s), 9 rebs; B. Simpson 16 pts(8x15fg); J. Scott 13 pts(6x9fg); M. Hoy 11 pts(3x6 3s); A. Miller 10 pts(5x7fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2010, 06:57:14 PM
No joy in Plattsburgh as New Paltz's Shereef Taylor halts Plattsburgh's 14 point comeback with a hoop and harm at 3:22 mark after Cardinals had taken the lead 71-70 on Errol Daniyan layup for their 1st lead since midway through the 1st period with 5:51 left to play. Daniyan with 2 free throws at 3:02 to cut lead to 74-73 but Taylor comes right back and buries a 3 from the top of the key with 2:33 on the clock for 77-73 Hawks edge. A Plattsburgh misfire by Steve Thomas is followed by 2 missed free throws by the Hawks. Teams exchange missed jumpers and Daniyan is fouled and makes 1 of 2 with 58 ticks remaining. New Paltz misses a 3 point attempt and up three they foul Thomas at the 14 sec. mark, who makes both foul shots to pull the Cards within 1. New Paltz inbounds to Taylor who is fouled and calmly swishes both shots with 10 sec to go and up the lead back to 3. Hawks foul Carl Munnerlyn who makes 1 of 2 but Cards fail to come up with the rebound. Taylor quickly fouled and again hits both shots to close out the scoring.  

Cards opened the game with 2 quick 3 pointers and raced to a double digit lead at 16-6 with only 3 minutes and 20 seconds gone in the 1st half.  Still up 19-10 at 15:52 mark Hawks begin a run of their own and outscore Plattsburgh 18-2 over the next 7 minutes to grab a 28-21 advantage with 8:37 left to play in the period. Back and forth play continued but New Paltz gradually ups lead to 45-33 before Cards cut it to 45-37 at the break. After getting within 3 at 45-42 and 47-44 the Cardinals struggle from the field and the Hawks with a 13-2 spurt,  open the largest lead of the game at 60-46 with 14:23 to play. Plattsburgh creeps back and at 69-64 Daniyan with a layup and 1 followed by two more layups sandwiched around a New Paltz free throw gave Plattsburgh the lead at 71-70 only to set the stage for Taylor's heroics for the Hawks .
Hawks were led by Taylor with 19 pts (5x13 fg, 1x2 3's, 8x9 ft.) and 7 rebounds. Nick Taldi scored 17 pts (5x11 fg, 5x10 3's 2x2 ft) Harris Wichard had 14 pts (5x11 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x5 ft)with 7 boards and Jayquan Anderson added 10 pts.  Hawks shot 27x62(43.5%) from the field, 8x20 3's(40%) and 19x28(67.9%) from the line. Hawks with 41 rebounds to 43 for the Cards aand 10 turnovers to 12 for the Cards.

Plattsburgh placed 3 guys in double figures as Errol Daniyan was the games leading scorer with 26 pts(11x17fg, 4x6 ft) and also was the leading rebounder in the contest with 10 boards. Chris Ruiz finished with 18 pts (6x19 fg, 4x7 3's 2x2 ft) and just missed his double-double grabbing 9 boards. Steve Thomas added 10 pts (3x10 fg,1x3 3's, 5x8 ft). Cardinals shot 27x65 (41.5%)) from the field, 6x16 3's (37.5%) and 17x25(68%) from the charity stripe.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2010, 10:09:12 PM

Brockport pulls away to 11 point lead with 4:27 left and Oswego never nearer. Port 25x53fg, 10x24 3s, 16x21ft. G. Williams 20 pts(5x8fg, 5x7 3s) in 23'; J. Johnson 17 pts(6x14fg, 3x7 3s) in 28'; B. Williams 15 pts, 5 assts, 2 stls; F. Lantigua 6 rebs, 9 pts. Lakers 25x47fg, 2x11 3s, 9x14ft. C. Burridge 18 pts(7x9fg), 7 rebs, 4pf in 33'; H. Ward 13 pts(5x8fg) in 19'; S. Michele 5 assts, 5 stls

Oneonta has Potsdam down 38-30 at midway mark. Bears claw back within seven at 5:32 but fade 15 down at 3:46. OSt puts brakes on four game skid, shooting 29x50fg, 9x16 3s, 12x18ft. B. Hooks 21 pts(6x8fg, 6x7 3s); M. grimes 20 pts (7x10fg), 9 rebs, 4 assts, 3 stls; B. Beckford 15 pts(6x6fg); T. Talbot 11 pts. Pdam 28x54fg, 3x8 3s, 7x10ft. C. Pierce 21 pts(9x15fg), 6 rebs; B. Walker 16 pts(7x10fg, 2x3 3s); A. Williams 8 pts, 5 assts, 7 rebs
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2010, 03:47:46 AM
Conference Standings through 1-30-10:


Brockport State       9-2
 
Cortland State         8-3

Oneonta State        6-5

Plattsburgh State    6-5
 
Buffalo State           5-5
 
Fredonia State        5-5

New Paltz State      5-6

Oswego State         4-7

Geneseo State        4-7

Potsdam State        2-9


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 01, 2010, 10:02:18 PM
I haven't been around much this season but I see my Eagles are flying high like I predicted. They seem to find a way to win each night. They are a fiery group that plays with their hearts on their sleeves each night. Coach Dunne and his staff seem to have them prepared for every contest. I was a little surprised at the Cortland score, but Spanny does a good job preparing the Dragons. Keep it going Eagles--Don't let up!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
Brockport St. drops visiting Fredonia St 75-57.
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Post by: jdex on February 02, 2010, 09:53:21 PM

Brockport widens conference lead with 75-57 win at home over Fredonia while Cortland slips 68-67 at New Paltz.

Geneseo edges Buffalo State 64-60

Brockport engaged in tight affair till late. Eagles hold 36-35 lead at half. Only up 47-43 at 15:03 and 55-52 at 7:54. Own five point advantage at 4:15. J. Johnson trey sends Port ahead by 11 at 2:25. Johnson with 20 pts(7x13fg, 4x6 3s); A. Marchand 13 pts in 21'. Eagles 22x50fg, 9x22 3s, 22x27ft. Freds get 14 pts, 7 rebs from S. Valenta. Count 31 turnovers. Go 19x36fg, 9x16 3s, 10x14ft. Outboard Ports 32-17

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2010, 09:57:32 PM
New Paltz beats visiting  Cortland St 68-67.
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Post by: jdex on February 02, 2010, 10:17:44 PM

Yes, New Paltz over Cortland at the buzzer -- O. Agyemang hoop for only Hawks lead of the game!!!! RDragons by 37-29 at half and by 10 with 13:51 left. CSt final points at 3:05 and 67-61 lead. H. Wichard trey starts NP rally. S. Taylor deuce ...........Corts miss free throws at 0:15 and 0:12 as part of 3x13ft night. Wichard 25 pts(10x16fg, 5x8 3s), 6 rebs in 38'; Taylor 14 pts; Agyemang 10 assts. Corts 28x59fg, 8x21 3s. P. Oliver 19 pts(8x12fg); D. Marshall 16 pts(6x10fg, 4x5 3s), 8 rebs, 4 assts, 2 stls in 38'; B. Nagle 11 pts(5x6fg), 4 assts, 8 rebs.

Oneonta tops Oswego 83-77

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2010, 10:41:29 PM

Oneonta victory comes in double OT at home where RDragons in halftime charge 36-32. Reg winds up 64-64 with Oswego's C. Burridge scoring at 1:26 to post that score. Oneonta misses final shot. First OT ends at 70 with Burridge free throws completing that round's scoring at 1:38 and Oneonta again failing to cash closing shot. Oneonta's S. Gillette lands trey at 4:21 of second OT and scoreless run goes till 1:55. Oneonta by seven at 1:32 but Oswego twice within a pair, the first time at 0:48 on Burridge dunk, and again at 0:19. Free throws by B. Hooks at 0:16 clutch for hosts. K. Walsh connects on another pair at 0:02 to complete 18 pts (6x10fg), 12 rebs in 46'. M. Grimes 16 pts(7x11fg), 6 rebs, 5 assts in 46'; B. Beckford 15 pts(4x13fg, 6x10ft), 9 rebs; Gillette 12 pts, 8 rebs; Hooks 11 pts. Oneonta 28x63fg, 6x18 3s, 21x32ft. Oswego's Burridge 30 pts(13x27fg, 2x6 3s), 9 rebs, 4 stls, 3 assts, 4pf in 39'; C. Monaghan 15 pts; R. Sheridan 13 pts; H. Ward 8 rebs; S. Michele 10 assts. Lakers 31x75fg, 4x15 3s, 11x19ft

Geneseo kayoes Buffalo St. on strength of M. Hoy hoop at 0:52 for 61-60 lead. J. Blair finishes off Buffs with 3x4ft. Knights have 35-29 lead at half. Nip and tuck final period. Neither side up by more than four. B. Simpson leads Gens with 17 pts(5x15fg), 11 rebs in 40'; E. Estabrooks 12 pts; J. Drazen 8 pts, 8 rebs. Gens 18x24ft to Bengals 10x16ft. BS J. Simmons 18 pts(7x18fg, 4x10 3s); N. Simmons 12 pts(4x17fg, 0x4 3s); J. Mitchell 12 pts; TO Jackson 8 rebs; A. Samedi 5pf, 6 pts, 6 rebs in 25'
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Post by: FranElia on February 02, 2010, 11:01:40 PM
Small correction to the Cortland linescore at New Paltz - Dustin Marshall with 19 points and Paul Oliver with 16 points. A Marshall three-pointer was inadvertently given to Oliver (52 instead of 51). Marshall hit 5-of-6 three-pointers. Box score is now correct online.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2010, 12:38:04 AM
Here's how it looks heading into the weekend:
Conference Standings through 2-2-10:


Brockport State       10-2
 
Cortland State         8-4

Oneonta State        7-5

Plattsburgh State    6-5

New Paltz State      6-6
 
Buffalo State           5-6
 
Fredonia State        5-6

Geneseo State        5-7

Oswego State         4-8  

Potsdam State        2-9

Brockport regains 2 game lead, looking more and more like SUNYAC championship will go through Brockport. Golden Eagles hit the road this weekend with games at red hot New Paltz and then 3rd place Oneonta. While a sweep of these 2 won't lock up the regular season crown, I think it's safe to say that if it happens, no one's going to catch them.

Oneonta needs to win to stay ahead of Plattsburgh since the Cardinals own the tiebreaker over these Red Dragons by virtue of a season sweep. And any chance of catching Brockport begins with a win Friday over Geneseo followed by the weekend's biggest matchup as they host Brockport. A loss to the Golden Eagles would not only end Oneonta's hopes of the regular season crown but could send them into 5th place if Plattsburgh and New Paltz both win their pair.    

Cortland's failure to put away the Hawks tonight could come back to haunt them as they lose a big opportunity to go up by 2 games on the rest of the pack and solidify their hold on 2nd. With only a single game this weekend, at home against free falling Oswego, who has slipped into 9th place, Cortland should come out of the weekend still alone in 2nd.

It's now or never for Plattsburgh as Fredonia St and Buffalo St make the trip North to take on the Cardinals. Can't see Plattsburgh catching Brockport but 2nd place is definitely within their grasp. Cards have revenge in mind as they dropped the ball facing both these teams on the road back in early January. Clearly the question is which Plattsburgh team will show up. The one that beat Oneonta decisively last Friday by 22 pts or the one that decided to mail it in on Sat against New Paltz.

Can New Paltz continue their 2nd half surge? After getting blown out by last place Potsdam the Hawks have come back with 2 solid wins against the (3rd place at the time) Cardinals and now 2nd place Cortland. And next up is 1st place Port. Can they hit the trifecta? The rest of the league is sure hoping so.

Buffalo State's road woes continue as they fall to 1-5 away from home with the loss at Geneseo tonight. Making the lonnng trip North to Plattsburgh and Potsdam ususally is not what the doctor ordered to turn that around. Plattsburgh still smarting from New Paltz home loss and Coach Curle should have his team ready to play. And Potsdam is certainly no gimme with recent wins over Cortland and New Paltz.

Fredonia----See above about Buffalo St. Same record, same road problems.

Geneseo has overtaken the Lakers for the 8th and final playoff spot, but holding onto it may be another matter. Two tough games on the road this weekend against Oneonta and New Platz. Blue Knights need at least a split if Lakers manage to upset Cortland.

Potsdam is playing some of their best ball of the season having split their last 4 home games, but the Bears really need to step up this weekend. With Geneseo and Oswego both on the road, it's the perfect opportunity for Potsdam to catch them both. With 9 losses already Potsdam can't fall further behind in the loss column to that pair.
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2010, 01:32:11 AM
Looks like foul shots really cost Cortland the game tonight against New Platz. Not just the 3 for 13 that the Red Dragons shot from the line, or the fact that they missed foul shots with 15 seconds and 12 seconds to play but both those misses were the front end of 1&1's as neither team was in the double bonus in either half. In the 2nd half New Paltz never had a foul called against them until the 10:14 mark. Down 1 with 25 ticks remaining the Hawks had to foul twice just to get Cortland on the line. Corts miss front end, but get the rebound, get fouled again, and miss again, setting the stage for Agyemang's heroics. Looks like the refs let em play tonight, but not getting 2 shot fouls that late in the game hurt as much as the misses. However the way Cortland was throwing up bricks from the line they might have went 3x15 and still lost.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 03, 2010, 06:09:12 PM
When does the East Poll come out? I see the West Poll was in their discussions today?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2010, 08:01:48 PM
The NCAA released the first set of Regional Rankings today. Here is the East Region:

East Region
1. St. John Fisher 15-4 16-4
2. Stevens 15-4 15-4
3. New York University 12-5 13-5
4. Medaille 18-1 19-1
5. Rochester 9-5 13-5
6. Nazareth 12-6 13-7

Complete rankings for all regions can be found here:

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/02/03/mens-regional-rankings-feb-3rd/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 04, 2010, 05:35:19 PM
Right now I agree that the SUNYAC doesn't really have a legitimate contender for the top 6 in the East Poll BUT I think a couple wins this weekend could put the Eagles in that mix around 4 or 5 position. I know Medialle has only one loss but isn't conference rather thin. What about 3 teams from the E8? Give me their overall against the SUNYAC--I really haven't kept track. Thanks and Magic--Keep me abreast --
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on February 04, 2010, 07:27:59 PM
SUNYAC is 5 wins and 8 losses against the E-8 this year.  But more to the point, Brockport lost both of their games to E8 teams by double digits. Downed by Nazareth in the Wendy's tournament (by 12) and lost to St. John Fisher earlier in the season (by 17). I think it would be hard to make a case for them being ranked in the region but who knows?  Maybe it's just me, but it feels like the 'YAC as a whole is on a bit of a downward slope relative to the E8 the last few years. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 05, 2010, 04:21:52 PM
Buff St at Potsdam on Time Warner 26 tonight in CNY.  Women at 6 followed by the men at 8
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Post by: thebear on February 05, 2010, 04:28:51 PM
Also on TWC in WNY & NYC

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on February 05, 2010, 04:55:38 PM
Shoot! wish I lived a little closer to Buffalo! :) (or anywhere else that carried it)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2010, 09:43:21 PM

Cortland rips Oswego 76-63, pulling away midway into second half. Ahead 49-46, RDragons extend to 62-46 at 9:28 and later by 18 in avenging earlier setback at Oswego. Corts 31x62fg, 12x26 3s, 2x7ft. D. Marshall 16 pts(5x11fg, 4x8 3s), 6 rebs, 7 assts in 30'; B. Manning 14 pts(6x10fg, 2x5 3s), 4 assts; J. Smith 11 pts(4x6fg, 3x4 3s); B. Nagle 9 rebs; J. Winter 6 assts; P. Oliver 7 rebs as CSt holds 43-26 board edge. Lakers 20x55fg, 9x19 3s, 14x16ft. C. Burridge 18 pts(6x14fg, 4x5 3s); S. Francois 12 pts(5x5fg); C. Monaghan 12 pts(5x13fg). CSt in 42-37 lead at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2010, 09:55:59 PM

Plattsburgh conquers guest Fredonia 60-48

Oneonta dumps Geneseo 71-57 at OSt where RDragons in 33-22 lead at intermission. Down to four at 6:55, then slow pull away. T. Talbot 15 pts(5x9fg), 4 assts; B. Hooks 13 pts; B. Beckford 11 pts, 9 rebs; M. Grimes 10 pts(4x7fg); S. Gillette 10 pts. OSt 20x28ft. Gens B. Simpson 17 pts, 9 rebs; J. Drazen 12 pts; A. Miller 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2010, 10:07:30 PM

Plattsburgh grabs 28-21 lead at half. S. Thomas finishes with 16 pts(8x8ft); Daniyan 13 pts(4x8fg), 8 rebs; C. Ruiz 11 pts; D. Tangney 10 pts(3x4fg, 2x3 3s). Fredonia gets 15 pts(6x10fg) from S. Valenta; J. Kane 6 rebs, 4 assts
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Post by: jdex on February 05, 2010, 10:27:12 PM

New Paltz brings Brockport back to the pack with 83-74 victory in NP
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2010, 10:53:10 PM

New Paltz takes down Brockport by holding off late Eagles surge. Port comes from 21 back to within four at 3:23 before J. Anderson answers for NP. Hawks push lead to 10. Lead 36-27 at halftime and by 21 at 14:42. Hosts shoot 30x46 from the field, 8x12 3s, 15x27ft. Take 46 rebs to Port 25, though Eagles get 25 Hawk turnovers. H. Wichard tops NP with 18 pts(7x8fg, 3x3 3s), 10 rebs; S. Taylor 17 pts, 10 rebs, 5 assts, 2 stls; N. Taldi 13 pts(4x6fg, 2x3 3s); M. Devine 13 pts(4x6fg) in 22'; J. Anderson 14 pts(6x8fg), 11 rebs. Port 26x69fg, 8x25 3s, 14x20ft, 8 trnvrs. J. Johnson 18 pts, 5 rebs, 4 stls; D. Klein 14 pts(4x7 3s); B. Williams 13 pts(5x16fg), 6 rebs; G. Williams 13 pts(5x14fg)
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Post by: jdex on February 05, 2010, 11:23:20 PM

Word filters down through the tundra to FLA that Buffalo St. defeats Potsdam 76-65
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2010, 04:04:29 AM
Here's a wrap-up of  the Plattsburgh-Fredonia game that Plattsburgh won 60-48. Back and forth play through the 1st 12 minutes had 5 ties and 5 lead changes as both teams tried to dictate the pace of the game. Plattsburgh was looking for an up tempo contest while Fredonia wanted to work the shot clock and create long possessions to neutralize the Cardinals fast paced attack. Each team had some success with their style of play as Fredonia gained their largest lead of the night at 13-9 with 10:48 left in the 1st half. A 9-2 spurt by the Cardinals regained the lead at 18-15 with 6:18 to go. However, the turning point occured when senior captain Danny Tangney entered the game with Plattsburgh up 20-17 and scored the Cardinals final 8 points of the 1st period on 2 free throws plus back to back 3 pointers in the final 3:36, giving Plattsburgh its' largest lead of the half at 28-21. Plattsburgh came out of the break with 2 quick buckets extending their lead to 11 and were still up by 12 when the Blue Devils threatened once again cutting the lead to 42-36 with 10:50 to play. But another Tangney basket and 2 Steve Thomas free throws restored a double digit lead that reached 15 pts at 57-42 with 3:13 remaining. 

Steve Thomas was the game's high scorer and led 4 Cardinal players in double figures with 16 pts(4x10 fg, 8x8 ft) in 33 mins. Daniyan followed with 13 pts(4x8 fg, 5x11 ft) and was also the games leading rebounder with 8 boards in 33 mins.
Chris Ruiz had 11 pts(5x12 fg, 1x5 3's), with 6 boards and 2 assists in 35 mins. Danny Tangney finished with 10 pts(3x4 fg, 2x3 3's, 2x2 ft) in only 14 mins. As a team the Cards shot 20x43 fg(46.5%), 4x10 3's(40%), and 16x23 ft(69.9%). They won the battle of the boards 31 to 24 and both teams committed 10 turnovers

Fredonia leading scorer was Scott Valenta with 15 pts(6x10 fg, 1x1 3's, 2x2 ft)in 25 mins. James Kane was next with 9 pts(3x9 fg, 3x4 ft) and topped the Blue Devils with 6 rebounds and 4 assists. Fredonia shot 18x43(41.9%) from the field, 2x8 3's(25%) and 10x17(58.8%) from the line.

Plattsburgh improves to 7-5 in the conference and 12-7 overall while Fredonia slips to 5-7 in the SUNYAC and 7-11 overall. The Cardinals host Buffalo St on Sat. aftyernoon at 4 PM while the Blue Debils continue their Northern trip with a visit to Potsdam to take on the Bears at the same time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 06, 2010, 12:17:18 PM


Huge test this afternoon in Oneonta where YAC leader Bport tries sweeping the series. Twas 74-67 outcome a month ago, tied at half and Port by one with two minutes left. That same weekend saw Bport  shake free of halftime tie with New Paltz and eventually waltz. Not the case last night on the road at the crazed Hawks home

Other matinees: Buff St. at the Burgh, Gens at the Paltz, and Freds at Pdam. On Super Sunday: Oswego at Morrisville for 1 o'clock tip

Buffalo St. last night flew free of a 33-33 halftime knot at Potsdam. Only a six point game at 5:29 but soon a 13 point separation after a J. Simmons trey and two J. Mitchell buckets. Mitchell a major story. Part of 28-9 bench points difference with 19 pts(9x11fg, 0x1 3), 3 assts in 32'. A. Samedi 16 pts(8x12fg, 5pf in 31'; J. Simmons 15 pts(6x13fg, 3x5 3s). Bengals 33x59fg, 3x10 3s, 7x11ft. Bears O. Minott 15 pts(6x16fg), 5 rebs; A. Williams 13 pts(5x7fg, 2x2 3s), 12 rebs, 3 stls; C. Pierce 13 pts(5x12fg), 7 rebs; B. Walker 13 pts), 6 trnvrs. Pdam 24x54fg, 5x9 3s, 12x18ft.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2010, 06:12:12 PM
Plattsburgh St wins a thriller over Buffalo St. at Memorial Hall 88-86. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2010, 08:24:07 PM
It doesn't get any more exciting than the finish of the Plattsburgh-Buffalo St. game this afternoon in Plattsburgh. Down 84-81, the Cardinals Errol Daniyan scores inside followed by a Chris Ruiz driving layup and 1 to give the Cards an 86-84 lead with 26 seconds to play. Buffalo St. comes down to play for the tie or win and with 6 seconds left Glenroy Carr grabs a rebound off a Bengal miss and is fouled on the putback attempt. Carr calmly makes both free throws to tie it up and the game has OT written all over it, just like the 1st meeting between the 2 teams back on January 8th. Plattsburgh inbounds the ball to Ruiz, who dribbles upcourt covered closely by Carr the entire way. With 2 seconds left and no options open Ruiz throws up a prayer from about 26' that has a chance but bouces off the rim right into the hands of Steve Thomas as he's leaping for the rebound. Thomas, while still elevated two hands the rebound and puts it back with the buzzer sounding as the ball falls through the hoop. Bedlam followed.

Buffalo St. opened the scoring in the 1st period and quickly grabbed a 9-2 lead, a lead they would manage to hold onto nearly the entire game. Cards came back to close within 1 at 13-12 but every time Plattsburgh got close the Bengals would respond and open up a 3 to 5 pt. advantage extending it to their largest lead of the half at 37-29 with 5 minutes to play. Cards chipped away and with 1:09 remaining a Danny Tangney jumper tied the game at 41. Bengals scored on their final 2 possessions to end the half up45-43.
Plattsburgh tied it up out of the break but with only 1:22 gone in the half the Cards big guy, Daniyan is called for his 3rd foul and has to take a seat on the bench. Buffalo St. bigs Carr and Antonio Samedi continued their excellent inside play, along with the outside shooting of Jake Simmons and the Bengals gradually forge a 10 point lead at 71-61 with 11:06 remaining. Plattsburgh refuses to fold and a Carl Munnerlyn 3 pointer,followed by an R.J. Ponesse jumper and another triple by Tangney, brought the Cards within 1 at 75-74 with 6:21 to play. Bengals go back up 78-74 but 3 straight buckets by Plattsburgh give the Cardinals their 1st lead of the game at 80-78 with 4:28 to go. A dunk by the Bengals Samedi who follows with 2 more layup regains the Bengals lead at 84-81, setting the stage for the fantastic finish. Tough loss for the Bengals who definitely came to  play today. Bengals lose Samedi who fouls out of the game with 26 seconds left and earlier with 2:18 left Jake Simmons committs his 5th foul colliding with the Cards Steve Thomas and both go down hard. Simmons was unconscious for several minutes as the game was delayed for about 8-10 minutes until he was finally able to get up and was helped to the Bengal bench. It's possible he may have suffered a concussion but that's just speculation on my part. It's hard to believe this Bengal team with their front line and a shooter like Jake Simmons and solid backcourt mate Norman Simmons hasn't had more success. Road woes continue and bench play seems to be a problem as Justin Mitchell with 6 pts was the top reserve. No sign of Anthony Hamer who was averaging 19 minutes a game.

Cardinals, as they did last night, once again placed 4 players in double figures led by Steve Thomas with 20 pts(8x15 fg,4x7 ft), 7 rebounds and 4 assists in 36 mins. Chris Ruiz was right behind with 17 pts(7x17 fg, 2x6 3's, 1x1 ft), 5 boards, 3 assists, and 2 steals in 36 mins. Carl Munnerlyn had 14 pts(5x12 fg,1x2 3's, 3x4 ft) in 26 mins and R.J. Ponesse came off the bench to add 10 pts(4x7 fg, 2x3 ft) in 17 mins. Farris Thomas was just short of a double-double with 9 pts(4x7 fg) and 9 rebounds of which 5 came on the offensive end. Danny Tangney again came off the bench with some valuable minutes as he had 7 pts(3x4 fg, 1x1 3's) and 4 rebounds in only 19 mins. Cardinals shot 35x72(48.6%) from the field, 4x9(44.4%) from behind the arc, and 14x25(56%) from the line. They also came back to out rebound the Bengals 40-37, after being outboarded 18-15 in the 1st half. Both teams took care of the ball with each only having 8 turnovers.
Bengals Antonio Samedi was the leading scorer for the game with 27 pts(11x14 fg, 5x7 ft)and completed his double-double with 12 rebounds, also adding 5 blocks in 31 mins.. Glenroy Carr had 21 pts(7x12 fg, 7x10 ft) in 35 mins and Jake Simmons added 14 pts( 6x11 fg, 2x4 3's) in only 19 mins. Norm Simmons had 8 pts, 6 boards and 2 blocks while playing the entire 40 minutes.  T.O. Jackson  chipped in with 7 pts 4 rebounds and 4 assists in 28 mins. Bengals shot 33x65(50.8%) from the field, cooling off a bit in the 2nd half after hitting 18x29(62.1%) in the 1st period. They were 2x5 from 3 point land and 18x27(66.7%) from the line.

Cardinal improve to 8-5 in conference play 13-7 overall and will play their last 2 road games of the season next weekend as they travel to Oswego, then Cortland for what could be a battle for 2nd or possibly even 1st place for the Red Dragons depending on the outcome of tonight's Brockport-Oneonta game. Plattsburgh still mathmatically alive for the regular season crown after Brockport's slip up last night at New Paltz. Next up for Buffalo St. is a pair of home games against Oneonta and New Paltz next weekend.        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2010, 08:38:55 PM
Oneonta St hands visiting Brockport its' 2nd consecutive loss 65-54 as the race for the regular season crown heats up. The Golden Eagles lead has been reduced to a half game over Cortland St., 1 game over Oneonta St., and 1and 1/2 games over Plattsburgh St.

Fredonia St rebounds from last nights loss to edge host Potsdam 58-53.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 06, 2010, 10:00:33 PM
  Good win today magicman! Jake actually wound up going to the hospital afterwards to get 4 stitches. Ant Hamer has been out 9 days due to being tackled by James Kane at the end of the Fredonia game last weekend. He is still recovering from those injuries suffered from that dirty play (intentional was called on Kane). Sure could have used him tonite.
 
  Not much else to say other than everyone needs to start studying the tiebreaker formulas because the finish line for first place - SUNYACS REg. season - may be a 3/4 way photo finish ( like last year except the firstplace winner could have as many 6/7 losses). I see Brockport getting at least 2 mores losses (at Plattsburgh and either Bengals or at Potsdam). Ditto for Cortland (at Oneonta and at either Buff State-on Randy Smith Celebration night or vs Plattsburgh). Oneonta finishes with 3 of there last 4 on the road..nuff said. And you know the rest!

  Proud of my BENGALS tonite!!!

Congrats!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
Brockport and Oneonta with a back and forth 1st half that saw 6 ties and 4 lead changes ending up in a 25-25 tie at the break. After Brockport scores the initial basket of the 2nd half to take the brief lead, Oneonta goes on a 18-1 run over the next 6 minutes to take a 15 pt. lead, 43-28, with 13:38 remaining. The Red Dragons maintained a double digit lead for much of the remainder of the game. The Golden Eagles got it to within 8 at the 5:07 mark and within 7 with 1:29 left but Oneonta hit their foul shots down the stretch for the final 11 pt margin.

Brian Beckford was the games leading scorer and rebounder as he had a double-double of 18 pts and 11 rebounds, with 4 assists and 4 blocked shots. He shot 7x11 from the field (1x1 3's 3x4 ft) in 35 mins. Brian Hooks with 17 pts(5x7 fg.4x6 3's 3x4 ft) in 40 mins and Shane Gillette with 12 pts (4x7 fg, 2x3 3's, 2x2 ft) in  33mins. Red Dragons shot 21x40(52.5%) from the field, 7x11(63.6%) 3's and 16x27(59.3%) from the line. They grabbed 41 rebounds to 28 for the Golden Eagles but that's no surprise. Oneonta had 21 turnovers due in part to 12 Brockport steals.
Brockport was led by Jermaine Johnson with 15 pts(5x11 fg, 1x1 3's 4x8 ft) in 30 mins., followed by Brandon Williams with 12 pts (5x12 fg, 2x4 ft) in 28 mins. Gerald Williams added 10 pts (3x10 fg, 4x4 ft) in 21 mins.  Eagles had trouble shooting the ball today from everywhere as they were only 18x55(32.7%) from the field, 3x14(21.4%) from beyond the arc, and 15x27(55.6%) from the free throw line. They only had 7 turnovers and despite being out rebounded again they managed to have 15 more field goal attempts than Oneonta. They just couldn't hit their shots tonight.

Next up for Oneonta is the trip west to Buffalo St and Fredonia next weekend, while Brockport with a game in hand on most teams only has a single game at  Geneseo next Friday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 06, 2010, 10:54:30 PM

Geneseo puts brakes on New Paltz express 63-61 as foul plagued B. Simpson connects at 0:10 on M. Baker assist. NP last points at 2:21. Gens tie on J. Drazen bucket on Baker feed at 1:14. Knights by 31-26 at half. Gens 25x58fg, 6x18 3s, 7x13ft, 18 assts. M. Hoy 15 pts(6x11fg, 3x5 3s) in 23'; Drazon 14 pts(5x7fg); Simpson 10 pts(5x11fg), 4pf in 17'; spare K. Stevens 2x8fg, 2x5 3s, 0pf in 13'. NP 21x51fg, 4x17 3s, 15x20ft. J. Anderson 20 pts(6x15fg, 8x12ft); S. Taylor 19 pts(7x11fg) in 25'; H. Wichard 11 pts, 6 rebs; O. Agyemang 0 pts, 4 assts, 6 rebs

Fredonia tops Potsdam 58-53 as J. Herrera hits game-winning trey at 0:11. Free throws by J. Bryant finish pointmaking. Haltime ends at 24-24. Freds go 12 up to two at 3:55. Bears tie at 0:44 on O. Minott hoop. Devils 21x46fg, 4x11 3s, 12x14ft. Bryant 20 pts(6x8fg, 8x8ft) in 30'; J. Kane 12 pts(6x10fg), 8 rebs in 29'. Pdam 18x43fg, 4x15 3s, 13x17ft. A. Williams 15 pts; J. Lambert 13 pts(5x10fg), 7 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2010, 11:08:08 PM
One thing I forgot to mention in the synopsis of the Plattsburgh-Buff St. game was that Cardinals Coach, Tom Curle was unavailable to coach the team tonight due to a death in the family.(his uncle)   Assistant Coach, Cameron Conover, in his first game as the 'head" coach comes away with the victory. Congratulations to him for a job well done. He had to deal with a Buffalo St. team with a solid frontcourt without the services of Plattsburgh's best big man Errol Daniyan for long stretches due to foul trouble. Daniyan usually averages 33-34 minutes a game and tonight was limited to half his normal playing time with only 17 minutes. He also seemed to make the right moves with substitutions, bringing guys in and getting contributions from them at critical times. With Plattsburgh down by 1 and the ball with 54 secs left, he took a timeout to set the offense. Plattsburgh was looking to get a shot off without using up too much time so if Buffalo went down and scored there would still be enough time for the Cardinals to get anorther chance. The Cards came out of that timeout and after 11 seconds were still struggling to get a good shot. He quickly called another timeout with 43 seconds left which led to a Chris Ruiz layup and foul shot which gave the Cards the critical 2 pt lead. The way the Cards won on the last second putback after Buffalo St tied it up with the 2 free throws will surely make Coach Conover's first win even more memorable than a first win would ordinarily be. 8-)    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2010, 05:20:43 AM
New Paltz defeats the 3rd place, then 2nd place and then 1st place teams in the conference, in that order but sandwich's those 3 wins with a loss to 10th place Potsdam (by 19) and at home on Sat. to 8th place Geneseo (for the 2nd time this year). That's about as strange as it gets in the SUNYAC this season. Throw in the loss they had to 9th place Oswego and if they had won those 4 games against the bottom 3 teams they would be 11-3, sitting in 1st place. As the Bear has said before 'You gotta love the Yac".
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on February 08, 2010, 12:17:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 06, 2010, 08:24:07 PM
It doesn't get any more exciting than the finish of the Plattsburgh-Buffalo St. game this afternoon in Plattsburgh. Down 84-81, the Cardinals Errol Daniyan scores inside followed by a Chris Ruiz driving layup and 1 to give the Cards an 86-84 lead with 26 seconds to play. Buffalo St. comes down to play for the tie or win and with 6 seconds left Glenroy Carr grabs a rebound off a Bengal miss and is fouled on the putback attempt. Carr calmly makes both free throws to tie it up and the game has OT written all over it, just like the 1st meeting between the 2 teams back on January 8th. Plattsburgh inbounds the ball to Ruiz, who dribbles upcourt covered closely by Carr the entire way. With 2 seconds left and no options open Ruiz throws up a prayer from about 26' that has a chance but bouces off the rim right into the hands of Steve Thomas as he's leaping for the rebound. Thomas, while still elevated two hands the rebound and puts it back with the buzzer sounding as the ball falls through the hoop. Bedlam followed.

....and Jim Valvano ran around the court like a madman looking for someone to celebrate with
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2010, 10:27:59 PM

Oswego over Morrisville 97-49 on Sunday. Lakers get to 10-10, Mville 6-13. Oswego 54-26 at half. Gun at 34x67fg, 11x23 3s, 18x22ft clip. S. Francois 15 pts, 7  rebs in 19'; C. Burridge 14 pts(2x3 3s), 13 rebs in 24'; C. Gilkes 12 pts in 13'; C. Monaghan 11 pts in 20'; S. Michele 7 rebs. Aggies 17x54fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2010, 05:21:22 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on February 08, 2010, 12:17:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 06, 2010, 08:24:07 PM
It doesn't get any more exciting than the finish of the Plattsburgh-Buffalo St. game this afternoon in Plattsburgh. Down 84-81, the Cardinals Errol Daniyan scores inside followed by a Chris Ruiz driving layup and 1 to give the Cards an 86-84 lead with 26 seconds to play. Buffalo St. comes down to play for the tie or win and with 6 seconds left Glenroy Carr grabs a rebound off a Bengal miss and is fouled on the putback attempt. Carr calmly makes both free throws to tie it up and the game has OT written all over it, just like the 1st meeting between the 2 teams back on January 8th. Plattsburgh inbounds the ball to Ruiz, who dribbles upcourt covered closely by Carr the entire way. With 2 seconds left and no options open Ruiz throws up a prayer from about 26' that has a chance but bouces off the rim right into the hands of Steve Thomas as he's leaping for the rebound. Thomas, while still elevated two hands the rebound and puts it back with the buzzer sounding as the ball falls through the hoop. Bedlam followed.

....and Jim Valvano ran around the court like a madman looking for someone to celebrate with
bomber3,
I had that exact same thought in mind as I was writing that post about the game. In fact, as I described the game to several friends, I said to them, "remember Valvano, and NC State, that's what it was like". When someone hits the half-court buzzer beater, it takes a second or two for the result, but the mid-air put back from the front of the rim, occurs so fast it's absolutely stunning.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2010, 10:24:25 PM

Unusual slim pickin's for this time of year ...........Potsdam on stage by its lonesome and loses 66-61 to nc guest Clarkson. Bears take 32-24 lead at half. Clarks up for good midway into final period and hold 11 point edge at 1:29. Pdam 25x53fg, 6x17 3s, 5x6ft. A. Williams 14 pts; O. Minott 13 pts; B. Walker 13 pts; C. Pierce 11 pts, 6 rebs. Knight B. Linton 18 pts(7x13fg); F. Llanos 11 pts. Clarkson 12-9, Pdam 3-17
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2010, 11:46:21 PM
New Regional Rankings were released earlier today. Here's the East Region:

Through games of Sunday Feb. 7th 2010

East Region: In-Region Record followed by Overall Record
1. St. John Fisher 17-4 18-4
2. Stevens 16-4 16-4
3. Medaille 19-2 20-2
4. Oneonta State 15-5 16-5
5. New York University 13-6 14-6
6. Nazareth 14-6 15-7

For a complete list of all the regions click on this D3Hoops link:

http://d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2010, 08:37:26 PM
Cortland leads Potsdam 39-25 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2010, 08:51:51 PM
Plattsburgh up by 9 over Oswego at the half 37-28 . Chris Ruiz with a big 1st half for the Cardinals has 20 points on 6x7 from the field 4x4 from 3 point land and 4x4 from the line.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2010, 09:51:24 PM

Cortland by as much as 20 in the first half and defeats Potsdam 75-62 behind D. Marshall 26 pts(10x13fg, 4x5 3s), 6 rebs, 9 ASSTS!! P. Oliver 14 pts(6x8fg); B. Nagle 12 rebs, 8 pts(3x5fg). Corts 31x60fg to Pdam 24x60. C. Pierce 25 pts(9x14fg), 6 rebs; J. Lambert 8 reb; O. Minott 8 rebs, 8 pts

Oneonta 70, Buffalo St. 64
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2010, 10:12:27 PM

Brockport comes from 26-20 halftime deficit to beat Geneseo 55-50

Oneonta overcomes 39-34 Buffalo St. halftime lead. RDragons take lead at 14:11 and hold off Buffs who get within four at 3:52 after down as many as 10. B. Beckford paces OSt with 18 pts(7x19fg), 13 rebs; M. Grimes 11 pts; B. Hooks 11 pts; S. Gillette 10 pts; K. Walsh 10 pts. Go 25x62fg, 3x9 3s, 17x26ft. BS led by G. Carr 22 pts(6x15fg), 7 rebs; J. Simmons 18 pts(8x19fg); TO Jackson 10 pts(4x7fg), 4 blks. Bengals 24x58fg, 2x10 3s, 14x27ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2010, 10:12:37 PM
Plattsburgh St. tops Oswego St. 81-66.  Cards in control throughout the game are up by 15 early on and settle for 37-28 lead at the break. Lakers close to within 5 early in the 2nd half but Cards quickly open back up by 11 and continue to lead by a comfortable margin until Oswego cuts it to 6 with 4:30 left to play. Steve Thomas then nails a 3 pointer, is fouled in the process and makes the free throw to complete the 4 point play. Oswego never closer than 10 after that. Chris Ruiz led the Cardinals with 25 pts followed by Carl Munnerlyn with 17 and Steve Thomas with 12. Lakers were paced by Stanley Francois with 13 pts and Jose Uribe with 12. Lakers big man Chad Burridge was held to 3 pts.

Cardinals move to 9-5 in conference play, 14-7 overall and move down the road to take on Cortland St. tomorrow afternoon at 4:00 in a battle for 2nd place, with the winner trying to keep Brockport in their sights. Oswego drops to 4-10 in SUNYAC play and 10-11 overall, below .500 for the 1st time all year. hosts Potsdam tomorrow afternoon also at 4 PM.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2010, 10:23:35 PM

Brockport maintains conference lead but doesn't erase Geneseo halftime lead till 8:28 left. Close thereafter, with final margin the Port's widest second half separation. Eagles shoot 7x30fg in opening 20' and finish 15x55fg, 7x28 3s, 14x20ft. G. Williams 14 pts(4x13fg, 2x6 3s); spare Z. McTigue 11 pts(3x4fg, 5x7ft) in 19'. Gens 16x37fg, 2x9 3s, 16x27ft and 41-27 reb gap. J. Drazen 13 pts(3x5fg, 7x8ft). B. Simpson 8 pts(all in first half), 9 rebs; K. Stevens 7 pts, 4pf in 14'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2010, 11:08:56 PM
Fredonia St. holds serve at home beating back New Paltz challenge in overtime 67-62. Blue Devils even their record in the YAC at 7-7 while the Hawks fall to 7-8.

New Paltz travels to Buffalo St on Sat for a 4 PM matchup.
Fredonia hosts Oneonta also at 4 PM tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2010, 04:12:37 AM
Top five teams in the conference beat the bottom five teams in the conference Friday night so the only move was made by Fredonia who started the night a half game in back of 5th place New Paltz. By beating the Hawks the Blue Devils now occupy 5th place.

The top 4 teams are coming down the stretch and it looks just like last year with any one of them capable of grabbing regular season honors and the right to host the conference tournament, assuming they win their quarterfinal matchup. I don't think we'll see a repeat of last year's finish when 4 teams all finished with 11-5 records, but it could happen.

League leader Brockport at 11-4 with 3 games left still needs some help to clinch 1st place even if they win out. With 2 of their 4 losses to Cortland St. and with Cortland tied with Brockport in the loss column, the real league leaders are these Red Dragons. Golden Eagles sure hope someone can lay another loss on Cortland otherwise they lose the tiebreaker if they both finish 14-4 based on Cortland's 2 wins over Port. Brockport is off on Saturday and plays their last home game on Tuesday against Buffalo St. They then have to make the trip north to take on last place Potsdam before facing Plattsburgh State in a rematch of their double overtime game against the Cardinals back on Jan. 22nd.

The problem for Cortland is a tough finishing stretch with 3 of their 4 remaining games on the road and the 4 teams they have to play are right behind them breathing down their neck. First up is Plattsburgh, the Red Dragons final home game, this afternoon at 4 PM. They then have to travel to Oneonta, Buffalo St. and Fredonia to finish up league play. If they win those 4 games they deserve to be crowned league champs. They are the only team left in the SUNYAC that controls their own destiny.

Oneonta can win out and finish 13-5 but they need help in a variety of ways. They need Brockport and Cortland to each lose 2 games because they would lose tiebreakers to either of these teams if they ended up tied for the top spot. They also need Plattsburgh to lose 1 game. 

Plattsburgh can still win the regular season title if they win out, but would need a little help. If they do win out, the Cardinals would own the tiebreaker against Brockport and Oneonta, but if they are tied with Cortland at 13-5 it would depend on the order of finish of the remaining teams as to who would win the tiebreaker between these two. If Brockport finishes in 3rd then Cortland would win the tiebreaker. If Oneonta finished in 3rd then Plattsburgh would win the tiebreaker.

There is also a chance that if Plattsburgh wins out, Brockport wins 2 of their 3, with the loss being to Plattsburgh, and Oneonta wins their final 3 games that they will all finish at 13-5 and. If that happens Plattsburgh would win the tiebreaker based on a 3-1 record against the other 2. Port would be 2-2 and Oneonta would be 1-3.

Then there is a possibility of a 4 way tie. Without going into the details, there is a chance that the four above mentioned teams could all finish 12-6. And it's still too early to say who the winner of that tiebreaker would be. One thing to remember is that winning the regular season title only guarantees you the right to host the semis and finals if you win your quarterfinal matchup. Last year the 4 way tie for 1st resulted in Geneseo gaining the top seed with Buff St the 2nd seed, Oswego the 3rd seed and Oneonta the 4th seed. Then what happened? The 1st, 2nd, and 4th seeds all lost leaving the 8th seed Brockport playing the 3rd seed Oswego, who got to host the tournament as the highest remaining seed. And the Golden Eagles completed their amazing run by beating Oswego and then Fredonia to win the SUNYAC tournament and get the automatic NCAA bid. 

The teams that are currently in 5th place and below have no chance or very little chance of winning the regular season crown and are playing for a higher seed.

The biggest game on tap today is The Plattsburgh at Cortland game. These 2 teams have been the hottest clubs in the conference over the past 3 weeks. If the Cardinals can upset the Red Dragons on the road, then they might have the easiest road left to the top spot since they finish up with their final 3 games at home.  They finish by hosting Potsdam and then Geneseo. The final game of the regular season will have Brockport coming to town in what could be a battle for the top seed. The last 3 games these 2 teams have played were all decided in overtime. In fact they have played 8 times in the past 5 years going back to the 05-06 season and they have each won 4 of those games. In addition to the 3 overtime contests, 3 others were decided by 2 points. The remaining 2 games saw Port win by 6 and the Cardinals win by 5. I don't know of any other rivalry where the past 8 games have been that close.
Oneonta can't afford a letdown against Fredonia this afternoon either, if they want to continue their march for the top seed. After shooting themselves in the foot with 3 straight losses at the end of January, just as they were starting to get some national attention, they have rebounded with 5 straight wins to get back into contention.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2010, 04:36:48 PM

Cortland up big early. Settles for 40-30 lead at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2010, 04:42:04 PM
Cortland grabs an early 10 point lead on Plattsburgh State as they jump out to a 14-4 lead after the first 6 minutes of play. Red Dragons pile it on opening up a 30-9 advantage with 8:16 remaining in the 1st period. Still up by 21 at 36-15 with 4:42 to play, the Cardinals go on a 15-4 run to close to within 10 and go into the break only down 40-30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2010, 04:49:17 PM
Oswego St. leads Potsdam St. 38-28 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2010, 05:16:02 PM
Cortland's lead has been cut to 61-57 with 7:12 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2010, 05:27:53 PM
Cortland & Plattsburgh all tied up at 63 1:34 to play Plattsburgh's ball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2010, 05:39:31 PM

Plattsburgh comes all the way back to deal Cortland 69-65 loss
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2010, 05:40:51 PM
Cardinal's Steve Thomas with a 3 pointer with 1:11 to play to give Plattsburgh a 66-63 lead. Chris Ruiz with a steal and Plattsburgh gets the ball with 35 seconds to go. Paul Oliver commits a foul and Plattsburgh Errol Daniyan misses the front end of a 1&1. Cortland comes down and Paul Oliver misses a hook shot and Farris Thomas is fouled by Oliver. He goes to the line and hits the 1st one and Cortland takes a timeout down by 4 with 13 seonds to play. Thomas makes the 2nd and Cortland's Jesse Winter drives the length of the court and lays it in and Cortland takes another time out with 8 seconds left. Plattsburgh inbounds to Steve Thomas and is immediately fouled. Thomas makes 1 0f 2 and The Cardinal come all the way back to beat the Red Dragons 69-65. What a comeback. Chris Ruiz goes over the 1000 point mark with 21 pts and Steve Thomas leads all scorers with 22 points. Dustin Marshall and Ron Evans lead Cortland with 14 pts each and Ben Nagle chips in with 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2010, 09:57:28 PM

Oneonta clips host Fredonia 63-61 in OT. T. Talbot nets gamewinner at last instant following Freds turnover at 0:06. Freds by three at 1:36. Talbot gets OSt even at 0:41. Tied at 31 at half and at 58 through reg on Freds J. Bryant score at 0:03. Oneonta 24x55fg, 4x18 3s, 11x20ft led by reserve D. Hahn 14 pts(7x9fg), 6 rebs in 22'. Talbot 13 pts; Beckford 13 pts, 6 rebs; S. Gillette 11 pts(4x8fg); M. Grimes 4 pts, 4 rebs, 5pf in 27'. Freds 19x48fg, 21x28ft. Bryant 15 pts; J. Kane 10 pts; A. Billups 10 pts

Buffalo State over guest New Paltz 83-69. Bengals in 39-37 halftime lead and following early second period exchange of leads a 16-2 BS run virtually settles it. A. Samedi 18 pts(6x8fg); 12 rebs, 7 blks; J. Simmons 21 pts; J. Mitchell 16 pts; TO Jackson 11 pts(5x7fg), 9 rebs. BS 25x33ft to NP 9x15ft. Hawks J. Anderson 25 pts(10x21fg), 9 rebs; H. Wichard 21 pts(10x17fg), 8 rebs; S. Taylor 13 pts; O. Agyemang 7 assts

Oswego runs past visiting Potsdam 73-59. Lakers have 38-28 halftime lead and pull away after Pdam within eight about five minutes into last half. OSt 24x45fg, 20x25ft. S. Francois 16 pts(8x9fg), 7 rebs in 24'; C. Burridge 14 pts, 8 rebs, 5 blks; C. Monaghan 14 pts, 6 rebs; R. Sheridan 12 pts(3x4fg) in 21'. Bears 21x57fg. C. Pierce 20 pts(7x12fg), 11 rebs; A. Williams 13 pts(5x17fg); O. Minott 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2010, 05:55:45 AM
I think the SUNYAC player of the week to be announced on Monday is a no brainer as Plattsburgh's Chris Ruiz led the Cardinals to 2 wins this weekend. He led the conference in scoring with a 25 point effort against Oswego on Friday night shooting 8x10 from the field, 5x5 from 3 point land, and 4x6 from the line. He added 8 rebounds 3 assists 1 block and a steal as the cards won 81-66.

On Saturday afternoon he was instrumental in leading the Cardinals back from a 21 point deficit against Cortland as they went on to defeat the Red Dragons 69-65 and continue their surge toward the top of the SUNYAC standings. Ruiz scored 21 points on 7x13 from the field 3x5 from beyond the arc and 4x4 from the charity stripe. he finished with 4 rebounds 2 assists 2 blocks and a steal.

His basket against Cortland with 3:45 left to play was his final points of the game but it not only tied the score at 61, capping the Cardinals amazing comeback from a 36-15 deficit but it enabled him to become the 12th Men's basketball player in Plattsburgh State's history to score 1000 points. The junior guard now has 1001 career points.

His combined totals in the 2 games this week are as follows;
15 x 23 from the field (65.2%) 46 points for an average of 23 ppg
8 x 10 3 pointers (80%)
8 x10 free throws (80%)
12 rebounds  6.0 average
5 assists    2.5 average
3 blocks
2 steals

Congratulations to Chris for a career milestone and a great weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2010, 06:24:16 AM
2009-10 SUNYAC Men's Basketball Standings through 2-13-10


Brockport State         11-4  
Oneonta State          11-5  
Plattsburgh State      10-5
Cortland State          10-5  
Buffalo State            7-8  
Fredonia State          7-8  
New Paltz State        7-9  
Geneseo State          6-9  
Oswego State           5-10
Potsdam State          2-13

Any one of the first 4 teams can still win the regular season crown and end up with the top seed. Since Brockport only has 4 losses with 3 games to play everyone else with 8 or more losses is playing for seeding position. Potsdam is the only team eliminated from playoff possibilities.

Anyone care to put forth an opinion on how things will end up?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on February 15, 2010, 04:15:50 PM
I'll let the experts (JDEX and Magic) make the predictions.  I really like the way the Cards are playing right now.  Coach Curle has them playing role oriented basketball and with that talent, they should be able to run the table.  They are a fun team to watch and more explosive than any who have played in Jerry Welsh Gymnasium this season.  Of course the upside for Plattsburgh is that they will be even better next year.  I'm looking forward to seeing Brockport this weekend and only regret (small one considering it will be Senior Day for the Bears and this group deserves our support and encouragement) that I can't make it over to the burgh on Saturday to see what could decide the SUNYAC regular season championship... at least I know where I can get my updates!  Many thanks to you both for keeping Bear and I educated for another season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 12:32:14 PM

Expert? Yeah, sure! We can roll the dice same as you and Magic! And come up with the same cockeyed outlook. One sure thing in the YAC is there's no sure thing. All agreed, methinks. Ups, downs, home wins, road wins . . . can't quite figure the hot teams. At one point thought New Paltz would run the table. And as for our Cortlands? The epitomy of the '09-10 tale. Sweep the Port, win at the Burgh, lose at Pdam, hold leads, lose leads, win at the wire, in OT, lose at the wire. Anyhow, coming down the stretch we like the home squads, and therefore .........

Plattsburgh finishing off 3-0 home week by beating guest Bport to go 13-5
Brockport avoiding looking past the Buffs tonight and winding up  13-5
Oneonta continuing its run of winning the close runs to conclude   13-5
Cortland finding a closing travel itinerary too hazardous, as in 12-6, 11-7     

And the tie-breaking crown to Pburgh!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2010, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 16, 2010, 12:32:14 PM

Expert? Yeah, sure! We can roll the dice same as you and Magic! And come up with the same cockeyed outlook. One sure thing in the YAC is there's no sure thing. All agreed, methinks. Ups, downs, home wins, road wins . . . can't quite figure the hot teams. At one point thought New Paltz would run the table. And as for our Cortlands? The epitomy of the '09-10 tale. Sweep the Port, win at the Burgh, lose at Pdam, hold leads, lose leads, win at the wire, in OT, lose at the wire. Anyhow, coming down the stretch we like the home squads, and therefore .........

Plattsburgh finishing off 3-0 home week by beating guest Bport to go 13-5
Brockport avoiding looking past the Buffs tonight and winding up  13-5
Oneonta continuing its run of winning the close runs to conclude   13-5
Cortland finding a closing travel itinerary too hazardous, as in 12-6, 11-7     

And the tie-breaking crown to Pburgh!

jdex,
I've had similar thoughts since Saturday night but didn't want to jinx the Cardinals.

It's hard to pick Buff St. over Port tonight with the Bengals road record of 2-6, but the front line of Samedi, Carr, and Jackson for the Bengals could give Brockport trouble. If Buffalo St. can shoot just a bit better than they did in their prior matchup with Port they could steal one here. The Golden Eagles could lose this game and still get the top seed by beating Plattsburgh on Saturday.

Tonight's winners:
Buffalo St. over Brockport
Oneonta over Cortland
Plattsburgh over Potsdam
Fredonia over Geneseo
New Paltz over Oswego.


Friday's games:
Brockport over Potsdam
Oneonta over New Paltz
Plattsburgh over Geneseo
Buffalo St. over Cortland
Fredonia over Oswego

Saturday's games
Plattsburgh over Brockport
Cortland over Fredonia
Buffalo St. over Oswego
Geneseo over Potsdam

Bengalsrule,
Back on Jan. 26th you promised me a win tonight when the Bengals visit Brockport. I'm holding you to that promise.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 09:00:09 PM

Oneonta over Cortland 37-31 at the half .......OSt's M. Grimes departs early with leg/ankle injury
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 09:05:34 PM

Plattsburgh 36, Potsdam 30 at the break

Buffalo St. by double figures late in first half at Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 09:09:07 PM

Buffalo St. 46-37 midway at Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 10:03:22 PM

Oneonta comfortably over Cortland 75-58

Plattsburgh over Potsdam 79-75

Buffalo St. leads Brockport 79-78 with 1:28 left ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 10:10:59 PM

Buffalo St. stops host Brockport 85-80

Oswego downs New Paltz 72-69

Fredonia tips Geneseo 66-58
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 10:59:59 PM

Buffalo St. has Brockport peering up till 9:53 remains and Eagle G. Williams lands a trey for 62-62 tie. Bengal J. Simmons quickly bites back with matching three. Bport knots it at 65 and ensuing ties come at 67, 69, 72 and 75. D. Klein trey supplies Bport 78-77 edge at 2:31. Free throws from N. Simmons pull reversal at 2:09 and Buffs extend to 81-78 before G. Williams hoop at 0:46 completes Port's points. TO Jackson at 0:11 and A. Samedi at 0:03 get BS closing marks. Port misses trey in between. BS 32x48fg, 1x3 3s, 20x29ft, 45-25 board hold and 28 trnvrs. Jackson 23 pts(10x14fg), 18 rebs, 5 assts; Samedi 25 pts, 9 rebs; J. Simmons 11 pts, 6 rebs. Port 30x76fg, 12x28 3s, 8x14ft. D. Klein 17 pts(6x8fg, 4x6 3s), 3 assts in 20'; G. Williams 14 pts; B. Williams 9 pts, 5 rebs; J. Johnson 15 pts(6x21fg), 5 rebs in 32'

Oneonta never trails guest Cortland. Shoots 28x50fg, 8x14 3s, 11x13ft, 35 rebs. Only downer was early loss of M. Grimes to ailing leg/ankle. B. Hooks 18 pts(5x7fg, 4x6 3s, 4x4ft); T. Talbot 17 pts(7x13fg), 8 rebs; B. Beckford 15 pts(6x11fg), 4 assts; S. Gillette 10 pts. OSt first five points from R. Greene who was making start on senior night. Corts 25x64fg, 7x26 3s, 1x3ft, 27 rebs. Fr J. Smith 15 pts(6x8fg, 3x5 3s) in 27'; D. Marshall 13 pts(6x17fg, 1x8 3s), 5 rebs, 4 assts, 5 stls; P. Oliver 10 pts(5x10fg)

Oswego overhauls 32-29 New Paltz halftime lead. Takes control early in second half and survives late NP approach. Laker J. Uribe makes four clutch free throws at 0:13 and 0:04. OSt 21x61fg, 3x16 3s, 27x33ft. S. Michele 12 pts, 4 assts; H. Ward 11 pts, 6 rebs; C. Burridge 11 pts(5x16fg); Uribe 10 pts. NP S. Taylor 23 pts; N. Taldi 17 pts; H. Wichard 10 pts. Hawks 19x41fg, 12x25 3s, 19x25ft, 20 trnvrs to host eight

Fredonia up 31-26 at half over Geneseo and get regular season sweep. Frosh J. Monahan 22 pts; K. Mitchell 14 pts; A. Billups 11 pts. Gens A. Miller 15 pts, 10 rebs; K. Stevens 14 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2010, 11:32:15 PM

Plattsburgh walks quite the tightrope in Potsdam rivalry, getting E. Daniyan's go-ahead hoop at 0:29. Bears take 75-74 lead on E. Cross trey at 1:02. Free throws by C. Ruiz and S. Thomas fill out Burgh scoresheet. Potsdam tightens things early in second half, then drops off and trails by 61-53 at 9:08. Bears O. Minott, B. Walker and J. McAllister connect to tie at 5:35. White knuckle time till the buzzer. Daniyan with 27 pts(12x17fg); Ruiz 18 pts; Thomas 15 pts. Walker tallies 24 pts(10x14fg) for game Bears; Cross 14 pts. Am sure Magicman will fill in the blanks once he catches his breath!

Oneonta to head of the class for the moment at 12-5. Pburgh at 11-5 with the Port
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2010, 11:53:39 PM
The game at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh tonight may have been between  2nd place Plattsburgh State and last place Potsdam State but somebody forgot to tell the Bears that fact as Potsdam came within 29 seconds of pulling off the biggest upset in SUNYAC play this year. Whenever these 2 North Country rivals tangle whether it's on the hardwood or on the ice it's usually entertaining and tonight was no different.

The Cardinals came out of the gate firing up three pointers, as they took their first 6 shots from beyond the arc and hit 4 of them to grab a 12-6 lead 4 minutes into the game. Plattsburgh extended the margin to 21-9 and matched that 12 point advantage, at 24-12 with 12:11 left to play in the 1st half. It would be the largest margin of the game. Potsdam slowly chipped away and with 3:20 left in the half caught the Cardinals at 28-28. Cardinals Errol Daniyan scores 3 baskets in the final 1:42 and the Cards go into the break up 36-30.

Potsdam nearly ties it up again 2 minutes into the 2nd period at 38-37 before Cardinals open up a 7 pt lead 46-39. Back and forth action with Plattsburgh maintaining a 3 to 7 point edge until the 9:00 mark when a Chris Ruiz steal leads to a Farris Thomas dunk that gives the Cards their largest lead of the half at 61-53. Back come the Bears with 9 unanswered points capped by an Olando Minott jumper followed by 2 Minott free throws and the Bears grab the lead for the first time all night 62-61 with 5:35 remaining. Five lead changes and 3 ties would come in the next 5 minutes with the last one occuring when Cards Daniyan scored with 29 seconds left to put the Cards up for good at 76-75. Bears come down for the last shot and Minott is fouled as he goes in for a layup. He goes to the line with 19 seconds left and misses both free throws, Cards Chris Ruiz grabs the rebound, is fouled and makes both free throws to give the Cards a 3 point lead. Bears miss a 3 with 5 seconds to go foul Steve Thomas who makes 1 of 2 for the final of 79-75.

Plattsburgh is led by an Errol Daniyan double-double of 27 pts (12x17 from the field and 3x4 from the line) and 11 rebounds. The Bears really didn't have an answer for the big guy tonight as he scored on a variety of inside moves. Chris Ruiz had 18 pts (6x13 fg, 4x8 3's, 2x2 ft) but had troubles handling the ball tonight as he committed a career high 9 turnovers. Steve Thomas followed with 15 pts (6x11 fg, 2x4 3's, 1x2 ft) along with 5 boards and 3 assists. R.J.Ponesse had 9 pts (4x5 fg, 1x1 ft) 2 boards and 3 assists in 16 minutes. Farris Thomas with 8 rebounds and 5 pts. in 24 minutes. Cards shot 32x59 (54.2%) from the field, 7x19 3's (36.8%) and  8x12 ft (66.7%). Cards out rebounded smaller Bears 37-18 but committed 22 turnovers to only 11 for Potsdam.

Bears were led in the scoring department by Ben Walker with 24 (10x14 fg, 2x3 3's, 2x3 ft). Ed Cross added 14 pts (5x9 fg, 2x4 3's, 2x2 ft) and Olando Minott chipped in with 10 (3x8 fg, 0x2 3's 4x6 ft). Potsdam shot 27x56 fg (48.2%) 6x15 3's(40%) and 15x21 ft (71.4%).

Plattsburgh moves to 11-5 and next up hosts  Geneseo this Friday at 8PM
Potsdam hosts Brockport State also on Friday night.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2010, 03:38:48 PM
As expected Plattsburgh State Junior Guard Chris Ruiz was named the SUNYAC Player of the Week that ended February 13th. It was the 2nd time this season he has won the weekly award also receiving the honor back on December 7th. It also  marked the 4th time in his career that Ruiz garnered the SUNYAC player of the week having done so twice last year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2010, 05:29:47 PM
New NCAA Regional Rankings out for games through 2 14-10:

East Region    In-Region Record    Overall Record
1. St. John Fisher 18-4 19-4
2. Medaille 20-2 21-2
3. Oneonta State 17-5 18-5
4. Stevens Institute 17-5 17-5
5. New York University 14-7 15-7
6. Plattsburgh State 13-6 15-7

Plattsburgh's Regional Record should be 14-6 through 2-14-10. Apparently the NCAA has made an error and has yet to correct it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 17, 2010, 11:09:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2010, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 16, 2010, 12:32:14 PM

Bengalsrule,
Back on Jan. 26th you promised me a win tonight when the Bengals visit Brockport. I'm holding you to that promise.


Any other requests magicman?

Glad to have obliged!

I'm just pissed that the best we can do is 5th seed even with a 10-8 record
(which we will have after Sat game vs Oswego!)

P.s. I love your predictions for this weekend!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2010, 02:41:14 AM
Bengalsrule,
That was a big win for your Bengals the other night as it will give you the tiebreaker over Fredonia should both teams win out. Your game against Cortland on Friday night could very well be a prelude to the Bengals 1st round matchup in the conference tourney on Tuesday. Cardinals are in much better shape after Port and Cortland both lose on Tuesday night. A sweep this weekend gives us the top seed, but Plattsburgh has to take care of business against Geneseo on Friday night and guard against looking ahead to Saturday's contest against Brockport. If the Cardinals play ball this weekend like they did against Potsdam on Tuesday we'll be looking at the 4th seed and playing your Bengals come Tuesday. Of all the teams I've seen Buff State is the team I don't want a 1st round matchup with. Good luck this weekend.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2010, 09:01:45 PM
Dex
halftime
Potsdam 46
port 31
gotta love the yac
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
The of course, the boys come out and treat the port to a 5-22 run to start the second half.

Can't stand prosperity I guess.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2010, 10:12:59 PM
Plattsburgh edges Geneseo St. 72-69 at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
Buffalo St over Cortland State  66-62. Big win for the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2010, 10:21:08 PM
Brockport web site has final as Potsdam 78 Brockport 76.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2010, 10:33:43 PM

And,
Oneonta stops New Paltz 73-63
Fredonia dispatches Oswego 65-56
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2010, 10:40:58 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 19, 2010, 10:21:08 PM
Brockport web site has final as Potsdam 78 Brockport 76.


bear,
You didn't attend the game?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2010, 10:52:04 PM

Potsdam wins via E. Cross  trey at 0:04 to break 74-74 tie created on B. Walker hoop at 0:42. Bport all the way back to lead at 13:20. Potsdam regains edge at 10:16 before Bport ekes ahead and holds slim edge till closing minute. Game's final points on FTs at 0:02 by Port's J. Johnson and 0:01 by Bear A. Williams. Pdam 24x41fg, 10x12 3s, 20x33ft. C. Pierce 18 pts(6x8fg), 9 rebs; Cross 16 pts(5x9fg, 5x6 3s) in 26'; A. Williams 12 pts, 6 rebs, 3 assts in 24'. Bears 16x23fg in first half, 7x8 3s by then. Bport 28x55fg, 8x24 3s, 12x21ft, 16 trnvrs. B. Williams 11 pts(5x6fg); Z. McTigue 10 pts; Johnson 10 pts; G. Williams 10 pts in 17'

Buffalo St. nips Cortland on J. Simmons trey at 0:08. Corts tie at 0:1`5 on B. Manning trey. Bengals by 31-25 at half and hold slim lead throughout most of final period. Buffs 24x50fg, 4x14 3s, 14x28ft, 34 rebs. J. Simmons 18 pts(6x16fg, 3x12 3s), 4 stls; A. Samedi 17 pts(6x9fg), 7 rebs; G. Carr 10 pts. Dragons 22x59fg, 6x17 3s, 12x16ft, 42 rebs. D. Marshall 21 pts(7x14fg, 4x7 3s, 9 rebs; B. Nagle 18 pts(6x10fg), 8 rebs; Manning 10 pts; C. Milke 7 rebs, 4 blks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2010, 11:04:13 PM
I was there until about 53-51 Brockport, after the Bears had blown a 17 pt second half lead.  I figured they didn't need any more of my karma after that exhibition.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2010, 11:16:55 PM

Bear's exit strategy works!!!!

Meanwhile, Oneonta finishes YAC at 13-5 and awaits sliding Bport test tomorrow at 12-5 Pburgh to determine regular season king. Burgh wins and wears crown on strength of reg season sweep of OSt

Oneonta tonight has 36-24 halfway lead over New Paltz and repels late NP threat within three at 3:03. RDragon B. Hooks responds at 2:29 and OSt pulls away. Finishes 27x53fg, 6x12 3s, 13x17ft, 18 assts. Hooks 18 pts(5x7fg, 3x5 3s); T. Talbot 18 pts(7x17fg), 6 rebs; S. Gillette 15 pts(4x7fg, 3x6 3s), 5 assts; B. Beckford 8 rebs, 3pf in 24'. No M. Grimes -- injured early in Tuesday game vs. Cortland. NP 23x54fg, 3x17 3s, 14x21ft. J. Anderson 21 pts(7x9fg); S. Taylor 14 pts(5x16fg, 4 assts; H. Wichard 11 pts(5x12fg) from the bench

Fredonia gets it done again minus B. Cooper. Devils use 13-0 run to seize lead midway through second half. Oswego has 25-21 lead at the break. Devils 18x37fg, 6x11 3s, 23x31ft. A. Billups 17 pts(3x7fg, 2x4 3s, 9x10ft); J. Bryant 14 pts(6x11fg), 5 rebs. Oswego 18x55fg, 4x17 3s, 16x27ft. R. Sheridan 14 pts(3x9fg, 2x6 3s, 6x8ft), 5pf in 34'; S. Francois 11 pts(3x8fg), 11 rebs; C. Burridge 7 pts(2x9fg), 3pf in 26'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2010, 11:59:51 PM

Oneonta      13-5
Plattsburgh  12-5
Brockport     11-6
Cortland       10-7
Buffalo St       9-8
Fredonia        9-8
New Paltz      7-11
Oswego         6-11
Geneseo        6-11
Potsdam        3-14

Much rides on Saturday matinee games in addition to first place showdown in Plattsburgh with Bport. Playoff ramifications also hinge on outcomes of Cortland at Fredonia, Geneseo at Potsdam, Oswego at Buff St

The eighth and final playoff slot remains unsettled among NP. Geneseo and Oswego. Should Gens and OSt win, idle NP is out since it lost both season series to Gens and OSt. Meanwhile, Gens hold tiebreaking sweep of OSt.

And position shifts are conceivable for every other playoff qualified team

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2010, 12:00:42 AM
Plattsburgh St. and Geneseo traded early leads until an 11-3 Blue Knights run gave them the advantage at 17-11 with 9:07 gone in the 1st period. Cardinals switch to a zone defense and  return the favor with a 13-0 run of their own to go up 24-17 with 3:35 left in the half. Up 26-21, with a minute to play, the Cards Chris Ruiz buries a three and Carl Munnerlyn follows with a driving layup to take the Cardinals into the break up 31-21. Plattsburgh opens up the 2nd half with 6 quick pts after a Geneseo basket extending the lead to 14 at 37-23 and forcing a Blue knights time out. Cardinals continue to maintain a double digit lead and are still up by 12 at 55-43 with 10 minutes left to play. Geneseo led by Brandon Simpson with 10 points comes charging back and closes to within 1 at 63-62 with 4:23 remaining. The teams exchange baskets and the Cardinals up 67-66 gain the upper hand on a Ruiz jumper with 2:58 left. Both teams go cold over the next 2:34 and the score remains 69-66 until Geneseo misses a 3 point attempt and Errol Daniyan grabs the rebound and is fouled with 24 seconds left. Daniyan hits 1 of 2 to make it a 2 possession game. Blue Knights miss another 3 point attempt and Daniyan is fouled again and this time makes both shots to extend the lead to 72-66. Geneseo's Mike Hoy hits a 3 with 2 seconds left for the games final points.

Cardinals were led once again by reigning SUNYAC PLayer of the Week, Chris Ruiz, the game's high scorer with 20 points (6x18 fg, 4x8 3's 4x5 ft), 6 rebounds 2 assists and 2 steals. Carl Munnerlyn with 19 points was a perfect 5 for 5 from beyond the arc with 4 of them coming in the 2nd half. He finished 7x11 from the field. Errol Daniyan added 18 pts (7x11 fg, 4x6 ft) and grabbed 8 rebounds along with 4 blocked shots. Steve Thomas had an off night shooting the ball (2x11 fg, 1x5 3's 2x7 ft) and only scored 7 pts, well below his 16.9 average but grabbed 8 boards and 5 assists. For the game the Cardinals shot 25x58 (43.1%) from the field, 10x18 (55.6%) from beyond the arc, thanks to Munnerlyn, and 12x20 (60%) from the line. Plattsburgh was out rebounded 37-33  and had 13 turnovers to 15 for the Blue Knights.

Geneseo also placed 3 players in double figures led by Brandon Simpson with 19 pts (7x22 fg, 5x7 ft). Abe Miller and Kyle Stevens both had double-doubles. Miller scored 16 pts (7x9 fg, 2x3 ft) with 11 rebounds and 2 blocks. Stevens had 13 pts (6x13 fg, 1x4 3's,) and 12 boards. Blue Knights shot 27x61 (44.3%) from the field, 5x11 3's (45.5%) and 10x13 (76.9%) from the charity stripe.
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2010, 12:28:19 AM
The showdown in Plattsburgh tomorrow afternoon with Brockport has lost a little of its' luster as the Golden Eagles can no longer claim the top seed if they beat the Cardinals. The Oneonta Red Dragons will be rooting real hard for the Eagles  to feast on the Cardinals. A Plattsburgh win would give the 13-5 Cards the top seed, followed by 13-5 Oneonta (Burgh holds the tiebreaker over them with 2-0 head to head record.) Cortland with a win at Fredonia would be 11-7 and the 3 seed by virtue of the 2-0 head to head record against Brockport who would end up as the 4th seed. A loss by Cortland would give Brockport the 3rd seed and Cortland the 4th seed.

A Brockport victory tomorrow would give Oneonta the top seed with a 13-5 best record in the conference, Brockport would be the 2 seed with a 12-6 record and hold the 2-0 head to head tiebreaker over 3rd seeded 12-6 PLattsburgh. Cortland at 11-7 or 10-8 would be the 4th seed whether it wins or loses  tomorrow since they hold the tiebreaker over both Buff St. and Fredonia. (If Cortland loses they are all 1-1 head to head and Cortland is 1-1 against Oneonta while the other 2 are 0-2 against Oneonta.)

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 20, 2010, 12:40:47 AM
Magic - let us hope our "talented teams" show up for tomorrow's contests!!     Hey Bear they (daBears) exceeded expectations- good win to build on for next year!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2010, 03:12:33 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 20, 2010, 12:40:47 AM
Magic - let us hope our "talented teams" show up for tomorrow's contests!!     Hey Bear they (daBears) exceeded expectations- good win to build on for next year!!

with age,
The Cardinals need to show up better than they have in their past few games. Their inability to put teams away at home has nearly cost them what they have worked so hard to attain. To go from a 3-4 league record on January 22nd and seemingly no chance to challenge for the top spot to a 12-5 record and be 1 win from the regular season crown has been fun to watch but a stumble now could be costly in their goal to get the automatic bid. I'm expecting another barnburner against Brockport that will probably come down to the final few possessions. I hope I'm wrong though. We need to exploit our height advantage and keep pounding the ball inside to Daniyan. If he gets his touches I think we'll be ok. He went for 27 and 18 against them in the 1st game. No reason to change that strategy. We just have to take care of the ball and limit the turnovers that Brockport is so capable of causing.

And yes, to "thebear",  congratulations to Potsdam (Alma Mater of mine and Mrs. magicman)  for the big upset tonight against Brockport. The Massey Ratings will have this as one of the 10 biggest upsets in college basketball this year. It's been a rough year for Coach Dobbs and the Bears but I know they'll be back. With everybody returning next year and hopefully a couple of big men recruits, they'll return to the playoff picture.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2010, 06:20:36 PM
Plattsburgh State wins another close one over Brockport 75-74. Details to follow
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2010, 06:58:25 PM

Cortland 56, Fredonia 50
Oswego 68, Buffalo St. 61
Potsdam 68, Geneseo 66

Oswego takes 7th seed for upcoming tourney (at Oneonta) and New Paltz winds up 8th (at Pburgh)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2010, 07:04:29 PM

And believe third seed Cortland hosts No. 6 Fredonia, and No. 4 Bport entertains No. 5 Buffalo St.  Buffs and Freds both 9-9. Believe Buffs get tiebreaker, yes?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2010, 07:08:54 PM
jdex,
Yes you are correct.

Oswego upsets host Buffalo State 68-61 and secures a playoff berth which would be the 7th seed since Geneseo lost.

Visiting Cortland knocks off Fredonia 56-50 and relegates the Blue Devils to the 6th seed in the upcoming playoffs. With the Cortland win and Brockport's loss to Plattsburgh today, the Red Dragons earn the #3 seed and the Golden Eagles fall to #4. Cortland will host Fredonia on Tuesday in a rematch of this afternoon's contest.

Brockport will host the Buffalo St. Bengals who ended up with the 5th seed despite their loss to Oswego today.

New Paltz owes Potsdam a big thank you as the Bears spring their 2nd beartrap in 2 nights and eliminate the Blue Knights from post season play. Potsdam, out of the playoffs and finishing dead last caused more shakeups in the playoff races than anybody with this weekend's play. Great way to end the season on a high note. Not quite sure I'm happy that the Cards now have to face New Paltz. Thought for sure it would be Geneseo or Oswego coming to the Burgh on Tuesday. I guess it doesn't matter. As a Plattsburgh player's father said to me today after watching another close game at Memorial Hall, "The entire SUNYAC conference is within about 5 points of one another".
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2010, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 20, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
Buffs and Freds both 9-9. Believe Buffs get tiebreaker, yes?

Yes! :D Tiebreaker going in favor of BENGALS who split with Cortland while Fredonia went 0-2 vs the Red Dragons. And trust me anyone in their right mind would rather travel to Brockport, who have gone  1-5 in their last 6 games after starting the SUNYAC season 10-2! That or at Cortland with it's Spanbauer mystique. I like the BENGALS chances Tuesday night.

  hmmmmm  some SUNYAC Playoff thoughts while trying to figure out if the Bills trade Marshawn to the Eagles for McNabb, or Vick.....

Quarterfinals
  Bengals over BPort ( a repeat of last Tuesdays game at BPort)

  Cortland Over Fredonia (a repeat of today)

  Plattsburgh over New Paltz ( although New Paltz beat the Cards in their last visit to Plattsburgh- do I hear UPSET ALERT magicman?)

and last but not least ...

  Oneonta over Oswego (but again another close 1- last game went double OT!)   Having listened to Oswego yelling and cheering as they approached their locker room after today's clutch win, they may just be traveling to Oneonta still overjoyed for having qualified for the playoffs today and not really focused on the red dragons.

Semi's
  Buff State gets revenge for buzzer beater at Plattsburgh 2 weeks ago! (I'm glad D3Hoops finally took it off their top videos). Fear not Plattsburgh gets an at-large birth!

  Oneonta easily beats Cortland

Finals
BENGALS....... (need you ask!)

CONGRATS magicman on your CARDS taking the regular season title! (Just like you predicted!!)

You gotta love this time of year!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2010, 08:58:25 PM
Plattsburgh State completed their near worst to first finish by clinching the top seed in the upcoming SUNYAC tournament with a nail biting win over Brockport.
Both teams seemed a little tight as numerous turnovers and missed shots resulted in a 4-4 tie after nearly 6 minutes of play. After 5 ties and several lead changes the Cardinals forged a 23-16 point lead with 6:13 remainig in the half. The lead increased to 9 at 30-21 but Port's Anthony Hall hit a 3 and Zack McTigue scored seconds later to cut the lead to 4, 30-26 at the break.
The 2nd half was more of the same as Plattsburgh maintained a slight advantage through the first 5 minutes of play. The Cards were up 39-37 when Plattsburgh's Steve Thomas scored on a drive, Ferris Thomas grabbed an offensive rebound for the putback and Steve Thomas followed with a 3 pointer to match the Cardinals' largest lead of the night at 46-37 with 12:05 to play. The Golden Eagles would then outscore Plattsburgh 20-10 over the next 5 minutes and retake the lead for the 1st time since the start of the game on another Hall 3 pointer that made the score 57-56 with 6:55 remaining. After another lead change and several ties the Cardinals shook lose from a 59-59 deadlock on 2 Steve Thomas free throws, a Chris Ruiz bank shot, followed by a steal and driving layup by Ketema Brooks that resulted in a bucket and one, which made the score 66-59 with 3:39 left in the game. Port closed to within 3 but Cards S. Thomas with a driving layup followed by a  F. Thomas dunk made it 73-66 with 27 seconds remaining. Port did close the gap with a pair of buckets by Hall and a 3 pointer by Jermaine Johnson just as the buzzer sounded to make the final score of 75-74 seem a bit closer.

Plattsburgh placed their entire starting five in double figures led by Steve Thomas with a double double of 18 pts (4x9 fg, 1x2 3's 9x10 ft) and 10 rebounds. Chris Ruiz was next in the scoring parade with 14 pts (5x10 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x4 ft) and grabbed 8 rebounds  along with 4 assists. Errol Daniyan foillowed with 13 pts (6x10 fg, 1x1 ft) and 6 rebounds. Carl Munnerlyn added 11 pts (3x7 fg,1x3 3's 4x4 ft) along with 4 assists and Farris Thomas on Senior Night came through with 10 pts (4x6 fg, 4x8 ft)  and 9 boards. The Cards shot 24x47 (51.1 %) from the field, 4x10 (40%) from beyond the arc, and 23x30 (76.7%) from the line. Cards enjoyed a huge edge in rebounding as they had 14 offensive rebounds among their total of 41 boards and the Eagles only had 18 rebounds. Cardinals, as all Brockport opponents, had more than twice as many turnovers, with 23 give aways to  Brockport's 10 turnovers.

Brockport placed 4 players in double figures led by Jermaine Johnson with 13 (4x11 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x3 ft) and Andy Marchand  with 11 (5x9 fg, 1x3 3's). Both Gerald Williams (4x9 fg, 2x5 3's) and Zack McTigue (5x8 fg,) added 10 points each. Eagles shot 29x61 (47.5%) from the field, 9x23 (39.1%) from 3 point land and 7x7 ft (100%).  

Plattsburgh after missing the playoffs last year and finishing in ninth place has returned to the top of the standings  by winning their last 7 conference games and 10 of their last 11.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2010, 09:29:54 PM

Cortland halts Fredonia behind timely shooting of B. Manning who scores 19 pts(6x13fg, 3x7 3s). RDragons in 30-21 control at half but see Freds make serious approaches -- within three at 7:30 before a Manning hoop, and four at 0:47 before Manning and D. Marshall free throws clinch verdict. Marshall 10 pts; J. Winter 12 pts(4x6fg, 3x5 3s); B. Nagle 7 rebs. Corts 17x47fg, 7x24 3s, 15x21ft. Freds J. Monahan 10 pts(3x12fg); J. Bryant 10 rebs, 3 stls. Unload  at 16x44fg clip, 8x17 3s, 10x15ft

Potsdam shoots down 38-31 Geneseo halftime lead. Bears on top with 10:45 to go as B. Walker connects. Two free throws from B. Simpson have Gens within a point at 1:25. Pdam's A. Williams finishes scoring with trey at 1:05. Williams 18 pts(5x10fg, 3x5 3s), 6 rebs, 6 assts; Walker 13 pts(5x8fg). Bears 26x53fg, 6x20 3s, 10x20ft, 24 rebs, 7 trnvrs. Gens led by K. Stevens 26 pts(8x12fg, 5x7 3s), 14 rebs in 32'. Knights 24x50fg, 6x15 3s, 12x14ft, 38 rebs, 16 trnvrs

Oswego lights it up early and assumes 38-24 halftime bulge, shooting 15x28fg.  Stretch to 18 before Buff St rallies within 48-45, then sees Lakers regain balance. OSt 45-35 board difference. H. Ward 14 pts(6x11fg); S. Francois 13 pts, 11 rebs; S. Michele 11 pts; C. Burridge 9 pts(4x19fg), 10 rebs, 6 assts, 5 blks. Lakers 24x60fg, 1x3 3s, 19x27ft. Bengal A. Samedi 17 pts(8x11fg), 7 rebs, 4 blocks; G. Carr 12 pts, 7 rebs; J. Simmons 10 pts; TO Jackson 10 pts. BS 25x58fg, 2x11 3s, 9x18ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2010, 06:49:48 PM
The latest East Region Rankings released last Wednesday by the NCAA had Oneonta St in 3rd place and Plattsburgh St in 6th place. I believe the NCAA has made a mistake in Plattsburgh's regional record and instead of a 13-6 in-region record it should have been 14-6, which would put them in 5th place ahead of NYU.

The reason I mention this is Stevens is currently in 4th place but has just lost 2 games in a row and now has a regional record of 17-7. Plattsburgh has just finished a 3-0 week and now has a regional record of 17-6 if the NCAA makes the correction.(I believe they are not counting a game that Plattsburgh won against Lyndon St from Vermont as a regional game, when in fact it comes under the 200 mile rule). NYU had a 1-1 record this past week and now has a 15-8 regional record. Medaille also lost the only 2 games they played this week and with their strength of schedule it's possible that Oneonta who went 2-0 this week and now has a 19-5 regional record might move into the 2nd spot in the rankings. St John Fisher went 2-0 this week and will remain in 1st place in the regional rankings.

This is what I think the final Regional Rankings will look like when they are released this coming Wednesday:

Regional Record followed by Overall Record

1.   St John Fisher   20-4         21-4
2.   Medaille            20-4         21-4
3.   Oneonta St       19-5         20-5
4.   Plattsburgh St   17-6       18-7
5.   Ithaca               15-6       18-7
6.   SUNYIT              16-4       21-4

As mentioned above Medaille and Oneonta may switch positions based on how Medaille's strength of schedule changed in the past week. SUNYIT with a 3-0 record this past week, will I believe, move into 6th place, but despite their better in-region winning percentage, their weak SOS will keep them from a higher ranking. Both Stevens and NYU will drop off the list.

If St. John Fisher and Medaille both win the automatic bid for their respective conferences and should Oneonta and Plattsburgh meet in the SUNYAC championship game, the loser of that game could possibly be the 1st East Region team under consideration for an at large bid. A loss by Fisher will probably result in only 1 Pool C bid going to the East and Fisher would get it. 
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 21, 2010, 07:23:38 PM
Congrats to "magic's" cards!!  The talent is there and they finally are playing like it.  Went to the Laker/Bengal game yesterday (partial to Stockwell) and that Oswego team will be a force in future years.  The are extremely young ( only one senior with any appreciable playing time) and their bigs are solid.  Need a "rainmaker" guard and they will challenge.  Lakers just seemed to want the game more than the Bengals (back to the wall etc). Believe me when I tell you that the Bengals had more talent but they kind of were going through the motions for a large part of the game until late in the second half.  Lakers had some tremendous interior passing, good offensive rebounding, and played pretty solid d.  No real threat for the Lakers outside that I saw. When Bengals finally got serious they took an 18 point lead down to 3 and 4 and 5 several times but Oswego shot pretty well from the line down the stretch to hold on.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
I think the four higher seeds all come out on top tonight. Plattsburgh, Brockport, Cortland, and Oneonta all advance to the next round. One possible upset is Buff St over Brockport but I think the Golden Eagles win the rubber match tonight. Would love nothing more than to be wrong and have Fredonia and Oswego win. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2010, 09:00:07 PM

Plattsburgh shades New Paltz 78-74 after 41-40 NP lead at half. Cards S. Thomas 24 pts(9x15fg), 9 reb. NP J. Anderson 16 pts(6x8fg)

Brockport edges Buffalo St. 68-67 in OT on J. Johnson conventional 3-point play at 0:09

Cortland tops Fredonia at half 27-23
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2010, 09:27:41 PM

Plattsburgh wins another barnburner, taking lead on D. Tangney free throws at 10:45 for 60-59 margin. Holds 67-59 lead at 8:46 but back comes New Paltz. Within 70-69 at 3:52, down 74-69 on C. Ruiz hoop at 2:32 but closes to 75-74 on H. Wichard trey at 0:14. S. Thomas hit ft pair at 0:11 and F. Thomas one at 0:01. S. Thomas 25 pts; Ruiz 23 pts, 11 rebs; E. Daniyan 10 pts, 7 rebs

Brockport has Buffalo St. in 40-25 hole with 17:17 left. Bengals still down by five at 63-58. G. Carr hoop at 2:00 and TO Jackson free throws at 1:26 square it. No more scoring in reg. BS misses at buzzer. Bengals take 67-63 OT lead on A. Samedi points. Bport's F. Lantigua gets Eagles within 67-65 at 2:53. J. Johnson wins it at 0:09. G. Williams 19 pts win win; Z. McTigue 10 pts, 6 rebs. Samedi has 17 pts, 10 rebs for BS; Jackson 14 pts; Carr 14 pts; N. Simmons 12 pts

Cortland up on Fredonia 51-47 with 6:30 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2010, 09:46:13 PM

Cortland sinks Fredonia 70-60. D. Marshall 25 pts(7x11fg, 6x6 3s, 5x6ft), 3 rebs, 3 stls; J. Winter 17 pts(5x7fg, 2x4 3s; B. Manning 10 pts, 7 rebs. RDragons 9x17 3s. Freds paced by J. Bryant 18 pts(5x8fg), 8 rebs; A. Billups 12 pts(3x9 3s); K. Mitchell 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2010, 10:25:38 PM
Just back from another thriller at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh where the Cardinals won the rubber match against New Paltz 78-74. Up tempo game right from the start that featured 4 lead changes and 2 ties until the Cardinals managed a 7 point advantage 14-7 with 5 minutes gone in the half. A Steve Thomas 3 would give Plattsburgh its' largest lead of the period at 21-13 with 12:06 to play.  The Hawks closed to within 2 at 32-30 with 5:47 remaining in the period and the teams continued to trade baskets. Plattsburgh's Errol Daniyan with an offensive rebound and putback gave the Cards a 40-37 lead with 16 seconds to play but the Hawks Ryan Sawyer with an acrobatic driving layup, followed by a Nick Taldi steal and layup on the inbounds pass with 3 ticks remaining gave the Hawks a 41-40 lead at the break.
A Carl Munnerlyn triple opened the scoring to start the 2nd half as the Cards regained the lead, but it would only be the 1st of numerous lead changes and ties as neither team could gain an advantage. 7 ties and 5 lead changes later the Cardinals shook loose from a 59-58 deficit on the strength of 2 Danny Tangney free throws and 7 straight points by Chris Ruiz to forge a 67-59 lead they would never relinquish with 8:45 remaining. New Paltz refused to fold however and closed to within 1 at 70-69 . A Steve Thomas drive and lay in followed by a Ruiz jumper with 2:28 to go restored the margin to 5 points and the Cardinals closed out the Hawks from the line despite a Harris Wichard 3 that tightened it up 75-74 with 11 seconds left.

Plattsburgh was led by Steve Thomas with 25 pts (9x15 fg, 2x3 3's, 5x8 ft) and 9 boards in 39 mins. Chris Ruiz added a double-double with 23 pts (8x23 fg, 4x11 3's 3x4 ft) and 11 boards in 38 mins. Errol Daniyan chipped in with 10 pts (5x9 fg,) and 7 boards in 28 mins. Farris Thomas contributed 7 pts and 7 rebounds in 26 mins. Cardinals shot 26x60 (43.3%) from the field 8x20 (40%) from beyond the arc and 18x29 (62.1%) from the foul line. Cards won the battle of the boards 48-30 and had 14 turnovers to 11 for New Paltz.

New Paltz also placed 3 players in double figures led by Harris Wichard with 17 pts (6x14 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x4 ft in 33 min.) and Jayquan Anderson with 16 pts (6x8 fg, 4x9 ft in 26 min.). Shareef Taylor added 13 pts (5x12 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x2 ft in 26 min). Oppong Agyemang chipped in with 8 pts 7 rebounds and 6 assists in 34 min. Hawks shot 29x63 (46%) from the field, 7x21 (33.3%) from 3 pt land and 9x15 (60%) from the line.

Plattsburgh will now host the semifinals and finals this Friday and Saturday. The Cardinals will take on Brockport St. at 8:00 PM on Friday evening following the 6:00 PM game that will feature Cortland vs Oneonta.

4 for 4 tonight in my predictions as the home court advantage proved to be too much for the dogs to overcome. My record for the season is 15-4 with my 4 loses coming on Potsdam's last 2 wins and Oswego's last 2 wins. I didn't see those coming.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Oneonta tops Oswego 77-69 and will face Cortland on Friday night in Plattsburgh at 6:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2010, 10:57:40 PM

Oneonta rolls. Up 36-22 at half. Shoots 21x41fg, 30x46ft. B. Beckford 20 pts(12x15ft) all in second half, 10 rebs, 5 assts; B. Hooks 20 pts; K. Walsh 12; S. Gillette 11 pts; T. Talbot 11 pts. No M. Grimes. Laker C. Burridge 17 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2010, 11:40:28 PM


Final NCAA Regional Rankings have been released. St John Fisher is ranked #1 for the 4th straight week. Plattsburgh St. is the biggest mover going from 6th place into 2nd. Ithaca not ranked in the last poll moves into 4th place. Stevens is the big loser as they drop out of the rankings. Medaille goes from 2nd to 5th.

East Region    In-Region Record    Overall Record
1.    St. John Fisher    20-4    21-4
2.    Plattsburgh State    17-6    18-7
3.    Oneonta State    19-5    20-5
4.    Ithaca    15-6    18-7
5.    Medaille    20-4    21-4
6.    New York University    15-8    16-8
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 26, 2010, 07:43:24 AM
Scooterman from Florida is back amongst the living--Just  dealt with some surgery and on the recovery--puts a halt to golf for awhile---Anyway the final four is as usual up at the Burg--I think Tom Curle is a super coach,  and I think the Burg is very lucky to have him as long as they have---I remember him as a kid back at Alfred State with Kaz-- Here are my predictions for tonight Oneonta  over Cortland in a tightly contested match and my beloved Eagles with an upset over the Burg on their home court. I know the Burg is a much more individually talented group but my midget men will find a way to pull it off. Their heart and desire to succeed along with all their close game experience will show tonight!!!I know there aren't many observers that will agree but that is ok---Good Luck Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2010, 05:31:10 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 26, 2010, 07:43:24 AM
Scooterman from Florida is back amongst the living--Just  dealt with some surgery and on the recovery--puts a halt to golf for awhile---Anyway the final four is as usual up at the Burg--I think Tom Curle is a super coach,  and I think the Burg is very lucky to have him as long as they have---I remember him as a kid back at Alfred State with Kaz-- Here are my predictions for tonight Oneonta  over Cortland in a tightly contested match and my beloved Eagles with an upset over the Burg on their home court. I know the Burg is a much more individually talented group but my midget men will find a way to pull it off. Their heart and desire to succeed along with all their close game experience will show tonight!!!I know there aren't many observers that will agree but that is ok---Good Luck Eagles!

Hey scooterman,
I figured you were making yourself scarce because of the Golden Eagles' 2nd half tailspin.
Sorry to hear about your surgery. Hope it was not to serious and you have no lasting repercussions from it. I'd have been surprised if you didn't pick your Eagles tonight but I'm afraid it's not going to happen. (I hope) What will happen though is one heck of a game I'm sure. Get Well soon, I heard all the guys at the golf course are waiting for their favorite pidgeon to tee it up!! ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2010, 05:41:58 PM
Time to take in the semifinals at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh tonight. What a bonus for me to be able to watch the SUNYAC's without having to hit the road. I think it's only the 2nd time that Plattsburgh has ever hosted the final 4. Hopefully I won't get shortchanged and the Cardinals come out on top in their game against Brockport, so I can enjoy a finals game with the NCAA bid on the line tomorrow afternoon.

I think the favorites will both advance tonight so I like Oneonta over Cortland 68-64. Plattsburgh wins another close one over Brockport 80-77.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2010, 09:05:46 PM

Oneonta kayoes Cortland 66-55, pulling away over the last seven minutes. OSt by 35-28 at the half and stretches to 11. Corts close to four at 7:35;  but score just five more points, two at 5:30 to pull within four, and a 3-pter by J. Winter at 0:37. B. Beckford 25 pts(9x10ft, 2x2 3s), 15 rebs, 4 assts for OSt whose T. Talbot goes for 14 pts. Winners 22x28ft to victims 8x11ft. Corts just 3x15 3s. Winter 11 pts in 16' (sees little action 2nd half); P. Oliver 10 pts, 7 rebs, B. Manning 10 pts; D. Marshall 4 pts(1x11fg), 7 rebs, 6 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2010, 10:09:52 PM
Plattsburgh St.  turns back Brockport St. 70 -60 to advance to the championship game tomorrow afternoon against Oneonta St. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 12:39:34 AM
Two good games tonight at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh as the top 2 seeds advance to the Championship game tomorrow afternoon at 4:00 PM.

Plattsburgh and Brockport both started slowly with missed field goals and turnovers until Derek Klein made a jumpshot after 2 minutes had gone by. Chris Ruiz hits a 3 pointer to get Plattsburgh on the board and the teams would trade leads until Errol Daniyan on a nice feed from Ketema Brooks dunks the ball and is fouled with 12:05 to play. Daniyan makes the free throw and the Cardinals claim a 12-9 lead and they would never be headed for the rest of the game. Twice they would gain a 6 point advantage but the Golden Eagles down 20-14 would come back to tie the game with 6 minutes remaining in the period. Back to back buckets by Daniyan offset layups by Francisco Lantigua and Jermaine Johnson but then Carl Munnerlyn hits a three to give the Cardinals a 5 point lead. Brockport's  Brandon Williams scores with 40 seconds left to play and the teams go into the break with Plattsburgh up 29-26
Cardinals get the early advantage at the start of the 2nd  as Munnerlyn is fouled on a 3 point attempt and steps to the line and makes all 3 foul shots. After a Brockport basket by Lantigua, Ruiz hits another 3 for the Cards and they open a 7 point lead at 35-28. Back come the Golden Eagles and tie the game at 37 but a Daniyan layup and another Ruiz 3 pointer restores a 5 point Plattsburgh  advantage. Once again Brockport comes back to tie it up at 42 on a Lantigua triple but that would be as close as Brockport would get. A Ketema Brooks 3 pointer, a Munnerlyn steal and layin, followed by another driving layup by Munnerlyn and a Ruiz jumper gave the Cardinals their first double digit lead at 56-46 with 3:29 left to play. Port would come back to get within 3 at 57-54 on a Jermaine Johnson layup with 2:07 left. A Steve Thomas jumper followed by 3 Cardinal free throws, and a Thomas layup pushed the lead back to 8 and Thomas hit 4 free throws in the closing seconds to wrap up the win.  
Plattsburgh, with 4 guys averaging double digits on the season maintained that statistic as Chris Ruiz led the Cardinals with a double double of 20 pts (7x21 fg, 3x9 3's 3x3 ft) and 10 rebounds. Errol Daniyan just missed his double double with 17 pts (8x9 fg, 1x3 ft) and 9 boards. Carl Munnerlyn scored 15 pts (4x5 fg, 2x3 3's 5x8 ft) and Steve Thomas almost had a double double with 10 pts (2x10 fg, 0x3 3's, 6x6 ft) along with 9 rebounds. The Cardinals shot 23x54 (42.6%) from the field, 7x19 (36.8%) 3's and 17x26 (65.4%) from the line. They won the battle of the boards 44-24 (12 offensive) and committed 15 turnovers to Brockport's 10.

Brockport was led by Francisco Lantigua with 11 pts (5x7 fg 1x2 3's) and Gerald Williams also with 11 pts (3x9 fg, 2x6 3's 3x4 ft). Both Jermaine Johnson and Anthony Hall scored 9 points, while Johnson and Lantigua led the team in rebounds with 5 apiece. The Golden Eagles shot 24x57 from the field (42.1%), 7x22 3's (31.8%) and 5x11 (45.5%) from the line.
The 10 point margin of victory in tonight's game was the 1st time in 9 games dating back to the 05-06 season that these two teams were separated by more than 6 points.

The SUNYAC Championship will be decided on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM at Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall. It will mark the 3rd meeting between Oneonta and Plattsburgh. Plattsburgh won the 1st meeting in Oneonta back on December 5th coming from behind to overtake the Red Dragons 60-58 in the final seconds. Plattsburgh won the 2nd meeting in Plattsburgh 78-56 on January 29th. I'm sure Saturday's game will be more like the 1st meeting between these clubs with a berth in the NCAA tournament on the line. There is a reasonably good chance that both these teams will make it to the dance as the loser could get 1 of the 19 at-large bids up for grabs. If St. John Fisher, who won tonight and plays Nazareth on Saturday afternoon for the automatic bid from the Empire 8 conference, wins that bid then the SUNYAC loser will be the #1 team in the East region in line for a Pool C at large bid.        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 01:26:20 AM
Oneonta looked pretty good tonight in their game against Cortland. Cortland played well at times but just couldn't get over the hump. Oneonta stretched a 9-8 advantage to 16-8, Cortland would close to within 4 and Oneonta would open up an 11 point lead at 25-14. Cortland would fight back to 27-24 and was still down 31-26 when Oneonta's Ryan Greene nails a three pointer and is fouled with 43 seconds left in the half. he makes the rare 4 pt play for a 9 point edge before 2  Cortland free throws make the halftime score 35-28. The 2nd half was a carbon copy of the 1st with Oneonta grabbing an early double digit lead and Cortland fighting back to get it within a 2 possession game on 9 different occassions. Key basket was at 1:35 mark when Corts were down by 6 at 58-52 and had not started the foul parade yet. Needing a defensive stop to try and make it a 1 possession game Oneonta's Troy Talbot hits a medium range jumper with about 10 seconds left on the shot clock to make it an 8 point advantage., Cortland came down, misfired and the fouling began. Brian Beckford certainly brought it tonight for Oneonta. Not often you see a 6'9" D3 player knocking them down from beyond the arc (2x2) and almost perfect from the line (9x10). No Michael Grimes for Oneonta as he is clearly nursing an injury. 

I would imagine that both Cortland and Brockport by finishing the year with a winning record will be able to extend their season by participating in the ECAC tournament.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 27, 2010, 01:38:06 AM
Hey Magic - congrats to your Cards and good luck tomorrow (my bad- later today).  Since I look to you as a "fountain of all knowledge" ;)- do you know when the participants in the ECAC tournament will be announced? Heard a rumor that my Knights could not go even if approached but it would be wonderful if they could play 1 more game or possibly 2. ;D Good kid - Linton is I think something like 6 points away from a 1000 in his career and it would be a fitting thing to achieve for a deserving young man.  I can ony hope??!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 01:57:39 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 27, 2010, 01:38:06 AM
Hey Magic - congrats to your Cards and good luck tomorrow (my bad- later today).  Since I look to you as a "fountain of all knowledge" ;)- do you know when the participants in the ECAC tournament will be announced? Heard a rumor that my Knights could not go even if approached but it would be wonderful if they could play 1 more game or possibly 2. ;D Good kid - Linton is I think something like 6 points away from a 1000 in his career and it would be a fitting thing to achieve for a deserving young man.  I can ony hope??!!

With Age,
Thanks for the well wishes. I'm not exactly sure when the ECAC's are announnced but I would think it would be this Monday evening or Tuesday sometime. I'm guessing they wait until after the NCAA's are announced on Monday because some bubble teams will probably want to go to the ECAC's if they don't get a bid. I think my Cardinals are in unless a whole bunch of top 25 teams get upset tomorrow or Sunday. If Fisher wins the E8 title and Oneonta beats us tomorrow we'll be the first team on the table for consideration by the NCAA committee for a Pool C bid. Like wise if Oneonta loses to us they would be the first team on the table. Why can't the Knights go to the ECAC's? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 27, 2010, 02:09:03 AM
Heard they did not register - "not in the budget". But it was not from an absolute source but a pretty reliable one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 02:36:39 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 27, 2010, 02:09:03 AM
Heard they did not register - "not in the budget". But it was not from an absolute source but a pretty reliable one.

Well if that's true then Clarkson's Administration sucks. I wonder if the hockey team would ever hear such an excuse. I mean they ship those guys all over the place. And yeah they're D1 in hockey but still why not let the basketball team get the benefits of post-season play if they qualify. Dip into the millions of $$$ they hoard in those endowment funds for a couple of bus rides down the turnpike. If the SUNYAC schools can afford to send their teams with the State of NY cutting their budgets I would think an elite school like Clarkson can spare a dime or two. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 27, 2010, 02:46:21 AM
Could not agree more magic.  Hope I am wrong and the "source" is wrong also but I would not count on it. Heard the decision rested with the AD.  Hey up there "hockey is king".
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 03:01:15 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 27, 2010, 02:46:21 AM
Could not agree more magic.  Hope I am wrong and the "source" is wrong also but I would not count on it. Heard the decision rested with the AD.  Hey up there "hockey is king".

I know the Clarkson AD from my College days and he is a hockey man through and through. Local guy from Potsdam, who is a Clarkson grad and was even a member of the big hockey fraternity at the time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 27, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Congrats to Magic and the Cards--I am on the mend and hopefully no longlasting side effects--Hey I would always be for my beloved Eagles--Good luck to the two remaining teams and represent the SUNYACS well--whoever goes!!!!I hope the Eagles do extend their season with the ECAC's--They deserve it even if they had some letdowns in the second half of season--Good Luck to Coach Curle and the Burg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2010, 12:15:47 PM
Actually for a lot of schools, the ECAC's aren't an option.  They get in the way of Spring break.  Season length enters in as well, esp for schools that play Sunday games. 

I know SLU hasn't participated in hoops in a while, and last year the ECAC Upstate women were cut to 4 teams because of lack of participation.  Not sure either of the UAA teams (U of R or NYU) ever declares for ECAC's.

Budgets are getting tighter - Even at the Privates.  With investment values and yields down, they are in a squeeze as well, and they only have tuition, endowment and research grants as funding sources. (Not that state dollars are abundant these days). 

I've known Clarkson's AD for a long time.  He's very fair and has done a great job in making them competitive in other sports as well as Hockey.  They particularly need to be commended for the work they've done in women's sports despite their enrollment disadvantage in sheer numeric terms.

Back in the Day, ECAC's were a bigger deal esp when Hamilton wasn't participating in the NCAA tournament, in this day & age with a 60+ team NCAA field, they are definitely the NIT of D-III, and a tough budgetary decision for many AD's especially with the timing of the academic calendar in a prime Spring Break Week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 01:34:50 PM
As usual the bear comes in with the definitive answer. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 02:48:10 PM
I just received word from Plattsburgh St. that the SUNYAC Championship game between Oneonta St and Plattsburgh St will be a live webcast by PSTV this afternoon at 4:00 PM. Here's the link:

http://primelink1.net/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 06:33:31 PM
There is joy in Mudville as Plattsburgh St. comes back from a 33-20 first half deficit to beat Oneonta State 67-60 in the Championship game  of the SUNYAC Tournament. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 07:23:52 PM
Plattsburgh's win gave them the automatic conference Pool A bid and left Oneonta in line to recieve a Pool C bid. The Red Dragons probably would have been the first East Region  team on the table for the selection committee to consider but the St John Fisher-Nazareth game just ended with #1 seed and #1 in the East, Fisher losing a thriller to the Golden Flyers 65-64. St John Fisher is a lock for a Pool C bid and Oneonta will probably get one as well but it will depend on the number of other upsets that might take place. The good news is the top seeds in 15 other conferences either won their championship today or advanced  to the finals that will be played tomorrow. Top seeds that have lost so far (that I know of) are St. Thomas, MIT, John Carroll, and of course St. John Fisher. Hang in there Red Dragons, you could still be Dancing.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2010, 09:35:00 PM
Another great game today at Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall matching the 2 teams that over the long haul have proven to be the best the SUNYAC had this year. Plattsburgh came out firing and once again Chris Ruiz as he has done for what seems like forever opened the scoring 20 secs into the game. 2 free throws by Steve Thomas are followed by a Ruiz 3 pointer and one as he is fouled on the shot. Another S. Thomas bucket, another triple by Ruiz, and an easy layup by Ferris Thomas off a Carl Munnerlyn feed gives the Cardinals a 15-5 lead just 4:33 into the game. The Red Dragons take a time out to regroup and boy did they regroup. Over the next 9 minutes and 51 seconds Oneonta outscored Plattsburgh 28-5 to take a 33-20 lead with 5:36 left in the half. The Red Dragons run was fueled by Troy Talbot who scored 12 of his 14 1st half points during that time span highlighted by 2 driving layups that both resulted in old fashioned 3 pt plays. Plattsburgh finally came out of their funk with a Ferris Thomas putback and back to back drives to the hoop by Ketema Brooks that managed to cut the lead to 7 at the half down 37-30.
Plattsburgh opened the 2nd half much like they did the 1st period as Steve Thomas hit a jumper 15 seconds into play, then a 2nd jumper and one, followed by a Ruiz jumper, then a Ruiz bank shot and one to narrow the gap to 41-40 after 4:48 had gone by. Over the next 6 minutes the teams traded buckets as the Red Dragon lead fluctuated between 1 to 3 pts. Down 49-46 Errol Daniyan gets the ball down low then makes a fine spin move to score his first basket of the game. On Oneonta's ensuing possession Ruiz steals the ball and goes the length of the court to lay it in and give the Cardinals their first lead 50-49, since the 13 minute mark of the 1st half. It turned out to be a lead the Cards would never relinquish.  After an Oneonta misfire Steve Thomas hits a driving layup then after Brian Beckford scores for the Red Dragons, Thomas sandwiches 2 free throws and 2 more drives for a basket around a bucket by Oneonta's Shane Gillette, to extend the Cardinals' lead to 59-53 with 3:26 left to play. Oneonta could get no closer than 5 as the Cardinals hit their foul shots down the stretch to make the final of 67-60.
Oneonta had problems with Thomas and Ruiz  the entire game and the pair finished with 28 and 23 points respectively. Thomas rebounded nicely from his off night against Brockport on Friday as he was 8x15 from the field and 12x17 from the line. Tonight he completed the double-double he just missed last night as he hauled down a game high 10 rebounds. He played the entire 40 minutes and was chosen the Most Valuable Player of the SUNYAC Tournament. Ruiz, who was named to the All Tournament Team, could just as easily have been the most valuable player as he had 43 pts for the 2 games this weekend, the highest point total of anyone. He just missed his 3rd straight double-double in playoff competition only grabbing 8 boards tonight. He shot 8x20 from the field, 2x7 3's, and 5x6 from the stripe. Birthday Boy Errol Daniyan only scored 5 points tonight but did tie Thomas for the rebounding honors with 10 boards. Farris Thomas chipped in with 9 rebounds and 7 pts and defensively limited Oneonta's Beckford to only 10 pts (just 3 field goals). Last night Beckford went off against Cortland for 25 pts and 15 rebounds. Carl Munnerlyn led the Cards with 5 assists. Plattsburgh shot 22x54 (40.7%) from the field, only 2x12 from 3 point land and 21x33 63.6%) from the line. They enjoyed a 46-35 rebounding edge and had 12 turnovers to the Red Dragons' 10. The win was Plattsburgh's 10th straight victory.

Oneonta Was led by Troy Talbot with 18 pts (7x18 fg, 4x4 ft) 5 rebounds and 4 assists. Three players each had 10 points, Beckford, Shane Gillette, and Brian Hooks. Red Dragons shot 24x62 (38.7%) from the field and also had a poor night from beyond the arc hitting on only 2 of 11 attempts. They were 10x19 from the foul line.

This marked Plattsburgh's 4th SUNYAC title in the past 5 years as the Cardinals now wait to hear what their chances are of possibly hosting a 1st round NCAA game and who their opponent might be.

Congratulations to the Cardinals and Coach Curle on a great run to the Championship        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2010, 06:25:38 AM
Here are the teams that it looks like the East Region will send to the NCAA Tournament.


Plattsburgh State---SUNYAC  Automatic Bid
Nazareth---Empire 8  Automatic Bid
St. Lawrence---Liberty League  Automatic Bid
Medaille--- Alleghany Mountain Collegiate Conference  Automatic Bid
SUNYIT/Wells winner--- North Eastern Athletic Conference  Automatic Bid
St John Fisher---Pool C At Large Bid
Oneonta State---Pool C At Largr Bid

Ithaca will come up just short of getting a bid as they would be the next East Region team on the table for consideration.

Last year we had 6 teams make the tournament. This year we will have 7 teams get in. The difference is the SUNYAC only got 1 bid last year while this year they get 2.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2010, 06:42:50 PM
D3Hoops has come up with a projected bracket for the NCAA Tournament. These are only projections and probably will differ from the actual NCAA committee's bracket but I sure hope that the pod Pat Coleman has for Plattsburgh St. happens. Pat has Plattsburgh hosting 1st and 2nd round games with the Cardinals taking on Nazareth and those other Cardinals, St John Fisher taking on Colby. Nothing could be finer!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on March 01, 2010, 10:57:55 AM
SUNYIT @ Plattsburgh
Naz vs Medaille @ Plattsburgh

Brooklyn @ St John Fisher
Brandeis vs St. Lawrence @ St John Fisher

Oneonta @ Franklin and Marshall
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 01, 2010, 04:44:30 PM

Even better for Pburghers!!!!

Congrats to Magic ........Cards certainly deserved it. Best team prevails in YAC. Pardon the delay on our part. Still a bit down after our Corts came so far, then faded --- as in the end of games. Needed that take charge guy and he evidently never showed. Still, came a ways from last season. New guys contributed mightily. Now to find an inside game with loss of Oliver and Nagle (and whatever became of sr M. Lewis?). Overlooked in our last report in loss to Oneonta was top scorer J. Smith, a frosh along with J. Winter. And we'll also pull for those other RDragons. Great campaign along with Cards. Gotta be tough for ailing M. Grimes to sit. A vital cog ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 01, 2010, 04:53:47 PM

Cortland also loses asst coach Bill Williams to retirement. Interesting tale is he. Local playing whiz out of Homer, he became playing force at CSt -- as in All-Conf. against the likes of Buff St's Randy Smith. Coached and taught HS ranks. Returned to CSt as head coach in '80s when terrific team featured T. Spanbauer. Then an administrator. Joined CSt faculty and also took on added asst coach duties for Span. Bill -- hardnosed, stubborn, soft spoken, valued big man tutor. Will be missed ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 01, 2010, 09:59:15 PM
The Eagles are hosting the ECAC's with Ithaca, Hobart and RPI. That's a nice little tourney for them. Congrats to Coach Dunne and his staff for making the midget men an exciting group. Good luck this weekend!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 02, 2010, 12:06:33 AM
Magic must be in heaven!!! If Plattsburgh plays to potential - very good chance to go to the sweet sixteen and perhaps beyond!!  Also going out on a limb- I think that the ECAC winner comes out of the liberty league. My bet is on Hobart.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2010, 12:41:00 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 02, 2010, 12:06:33 AM
Magic must be in heaven!!! If Plattsburgh plays to potential - very good chance to go to the sweet sixteen and perhaps beyond!!  Also going out on a limb- I think that the ECAC winner comes out of the liberty league. My bet is on Hobart.

With age,
You got that right!! I can't believe our good fortune on being named the host. I think that anyone of the 4 teams in this pod can win 2 games and get to the sweet 16 but I like the Cardinals chances. Nazareth, with their victory over St. John Fisher this past weekend will be coming in with a ton of confidence. Medaille has basicallly the same team back that gave a highly ranked John Carroll a too close for comfort game in last year's 1st round and beat this year's John Carroll team that wasn't much different from last year's version. SUNYIT, as I know you remember, won a 1st round game against a decent Elms team last year and gave SLU a battle in the 2nd round before losing 90-80. They have 2 good players in Dave Golembiowski and Diloo Brown. Golembiowski, only a junior just went over the career 1500 point mark and Brown a senior hit the career 1000 point mark the day after Golembiowski got his milestone. Hopefully the Cardinals can take care of business, but if they do advance, #2 ranked Williams lies in wait and that game for sure will be played in Williamstown, Mass. My only feeling there is that the 2 SUNYAC schools that have played Williams, Cortland and New Paltz both took the Ephs right down to the wire and New Paltz had a chance to win at the buzzer. Right now we need to be focused on SUNYIT and take it 1 game at a time. Thanks for your encouragement throughout the year.

Oh and the ECAC's will be hard to predict. Any one of these teams can win it. I'll have to give it some thought and try and pick a winner. I know who scooterman thinks win win though. I heard he's picking Ithaca. ;D    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2010, 04:34:06 AM
The SUNYAC All Conference teams were released on Monday March 1st. I don't know the entire list of honorees because the SUNYAC website isn't showing a thing about it. Several teams have posted the players from their schools that made the list so I'll give you what I know and fill in as the details become available. Apparently the massive budget problems that New York State has encountered has affected the ability of the SUNYAC athletic offices to update the  official SUNYAC athletic site. It's pretty sad that the site is showing statistics of games through Feb 22nd and yet there are mistakes in team's records, team's averages, and team's winning streaks to name a few that I've found. I even pointed the errors out to them over a week ago but no one has bothered to correct them. If they can notify the schools about the All Conference selections, why can't they take a few minutes and post it on the website and keep it up to date.

jdex or bear any thoughts as to why the website can't be maintained in a timely manner? Well enough venting for one night, here's what I know. I've update this and now have listed the entire list of All Conference selections. SUNYAC site finally displayed the list late Tuesday afternoon.


SUNYAC Player of the Year is senior Forward Brian Beckford of Oneonta St.

SUNYAC Coach of the Year is Tom Curle of Plattsburgh St This was the 3rd time  Coach Curle has recieved this award in his 7 seven seasons at Plattsburgh.

SUNYAC Rookie of the Year freshman Jake Simmons Buffalo St.

SUNYAC First Team All Conference:

Chris Ruiz junior forward  Plattsburgh St. This marks the 2nd straight year that Chris has been named to the 1st team.

Errol Daniyan junior forward  Plattsburgh St.

Jermaine Johnson junior guard  Brockport St.

Dustin Marshall junior guard  Cortland St.

Brian Beckford senior forward Oneonta St.


Second Team All Conference:

Steve Thomas junior guard  Plattsburgh St.

Michael Grimes senior forward  Oneonta St. This was Mike's 2nd straight year on the All Conference 2nd team.

Chad Burridge sophomore forward Oswego St. Chad was last year's Rookie of the Year winner.

Shareef Taylor sophomore guard New Paltz St.

Brad Cooper senior guard Fredonia St.



Honorable Mention:

Carl Munnerlyn junior guard  Plattsburgh St.

Brandon Simpson senior forward Geneseo St.

Jake Simmons freshman guard Buffalo St.

Antonio Samedi  senior forward/center Buffalo St

Jayquan Anderson sohomore forward New Paltz St.

The five awards handed out to Plattsburgh are the most ever in one season in school history. 2 years ago when the Cardinals ran the table in the SUNYAC Anthony Williams was Player of the Year and was named along with Travis Gorham to the 1st team. Khylan Hunt was named to the 2nd team and Coach Curle was the Coach of the Year as well.

I realize it's tough to get 2 players from the same school on the 1st team and 3 from the same school is almost unheard of but a strong case could be made for Steve Thomas to have been a first teamer as well. His scoring average of 17.0 points per game is 4th in the conference. He is 2nd in the conference in free throw percentage sinking 145 out of 187 attempt for a .775 clip and made 50  more from the stripe than the next closest player. Only 6'2" the athletic Thomas was the Cardinals' 2nd leading rebounder and ranked in the top 10 in the conference with 6.6 boards per game. I'd say that next year 1st team honors will come his way except Ruiz, Daniyan, and Munnerlyn are all coming back. Maybe 3 on the 1st team won't be unheard of after all.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 02, 2010, 12:17:55 PM

Spent some time ourselves last night trying to locate All-YAC squads, and like you, Magic, drew plenty of blanks. Almost posted same info you discovered. Believe conference publicist out of Fredonia office receives a pittance for his/her services. Of course, they count on SUNYAC school info folks for figures. Some schools better than others at providing such data. But some schools put more emphasis($$) on p.r. than others. So we don't fault YAC Central too much. BUT to not have all-conference squads listed is annoying to say the least! Hey, Fran, care to post? Of course we speak of Cortland's nonpareil F. Elia.

Totally agree Pburgh could have had three first teamers. Corts D. Marshall bit of a surprise. Wasn't a starter throughout first half of season. Came on like gangbusters, but still ..... Now that's something for a diehard RDragon follower to say!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2010, 03:25:01 PM
jdex,
Thanks for your thoughts regarding SUNYAC Central. Still nothing listed as of 2 PM today. While I was on the site I took a stroll down memory lane looking at past SUNYAC greats. It's amazing how many typos and spelling errors there were on names of people I knew personally. I can't imagine how many there might be overall. One player in particular Ted Bence from Potsdam State was named AC honorable mention in 72-73 and he's listed as Ted Berce. The next year he was 1st team  AC and he was listed as Ted Pence. So much for getting it right.
And yes some schools do a decent job of providing scores and news releases in a timely manner while other apparently could care less. Cortland, Brockport, Buffalo St and Plattsburgh, are 4 of the best. SID's Fran Elia at Cortland and Patrick Stewart at Plattsburgh do a fine job of getting the scores, statistics and news releases posted as soon as possible. Brockport and Buff St. are good at that as well. Usually those schools have live stats and live audio or live webcasts so the fans can follow their teams on the road when the schools play in those locations.
I did see a Potsdam at Oswego game online that was good quality but it doesn't happen often enough at some schools and never at others. At the very least live stats should be something that all schools could and should make an effort to have available.

I did find a bunch more of the All Conference honorees today and I updated the post that I listed them on. I now have 5--1st team players, 4--2nd teamers and 5--honorable mentions as well as the Coach of the Year, Player of the Year, and Rookie of the year. Nothing from Potsdam or Fredonia websites. Any news from Potsdam, Bear?  

SUNYAC site posted the All Conference selections late this afternoon. All included in my above post.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2010, 10:46:44 PM
Oneonta State sets an unusual D3 record this year: Longest time span between tourney appearances. This will be the second trip to the dance for the Red Dragons ... but their first was all the way back in 1977, when they made it all the way to the national championship game before succumbing to Wittenberg.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 03, 2010, 08:26:40 AM
As you probably know, our SID passed away unexpectedly last November.  Our grad asst has been nobly trying to cover since that time, but a huge task.

Was disappointed that Curtis Pierce from Potsdam did not receive all SUNYAC mention.  While Simmons was a scoring phenom, Pierce was quite the all-around player, 6th in the conference in scoring, 8th in rebounding, and 3rd in FG% (.623) in the 18 conference games. Glaring omission in my opinion, but a price that's paid for being in the cellar.

Thought it was unusual that Cooper took a second team spot despite missing the second half.  HM perhaps, but AC should be based on a full season's performance.

Also thought, based on my analysis that Daniyan should have been POY, but perhaps his supporting cast was taken into consideration.

Noticed the mispelling of Ted' Bence's name (twice) as well. 

He & Mike Deane were a thing of beauty on the out of bounds play, and on the fast break the Bears featured back in that era.  Continued their show for many years in the PBA after college.

dex - thought the Cortland women got abused by the NCAA committee.  Ithaca hosting, yet Corts beat ithaca at Ithaca, and Corts have to go to Rochester and play Jackets in the opener.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2010, 08:45:27 AM

Bear,

Ya got that right!! CSt women totally dissed .... Maybe a bit more incentive now ....Shall see. And yes, Cooper 2nd team? Wow!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 03, 2010, 04:40:09 PM
Magic--How did you know? One of my very good coaching buddies is the assistant their, Coach Burton. I wish them well but I hope it is 2nd place behind my beloved Eagles!!! I think playing at home will give them the advantage they need to bring home their second ECAC championship in the past three years. I would have prefered NCAA tournament but will accept this. At least they are still playing--by the represent the SUNY's well Plattsburgh. Good luck
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2010, 04:54:05 PM
Quote from: scooterman on March 03, 2010, 04:40:09 PM
Magic--How did you know? One of my very good coaching buddies is the assistant their, Coach Burton. I wish them well but I hope it is 2nd place behind my beloved Eagles!!! I think playing at home will give them the advantage they need to bring home their second ECAC championship in the past three years. I would have prefered NCAA tournament but will accept this. At least they are still playing--by the represent the SUNY's well Plattsburgh. Good luck

Well scooterman, why do you think I'm called the magicman? ;) I can prestidigitate with the best of them. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2010, 06:37:51 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 03, 2010, 08:26:40 AM
As you probably know, our SID passed away unexpectedly last November.  Our grad asst has been nobly trying to cover since that time, but a huge task.

Was disappointed that Curtis Pierce from Potsdam did not receive all SUNYAC mention.  While Simmons was a scoring phenom, Pierce was quite the all-around player, 6th in the conference in scoring, 8th in rebounding, and 3rd in FG% (.623) in the 18 conference games. Glaring omission in my opinion, but a price that's paid for being in the cellar.

Thought it was unusual that Cooper took a second team spot despite missing the second half.  HM perhaps, but AC should be based on a full season's performance.

Also thought, based on my analysis that Daniyan should have been POY, but perhaps his supporting cast was taken into consideration.

Noticed the mispelling of Ted' Bence's name (twice) as well. 

He & Mike Deane were a thing of beauty on the out of bounds play, and on the fast break the Bears featured back in that era.  Continued their show for many years in the PBA after college.

dex - thought the Cortland women got abused by the NCAA committee.  Ithaca hosting, yet Corts beat ithaca at Ithaca, and Corts have to go to Rochester and play Jackets in the opener.

bear,
I did not know you lost your SID. That would explain the reason the Potsdam website wasn't up to par as in the past. Sorry to hear that.

Totally agee that Cooper on the 2nd team was a gift. Think HM  would have been a gift. Tough to miss half of your senior year with an injury but he only played in 6 conference games and 12 overall. SUNYAC says on the stats page "To be ranked a player must appear in at least 75% of their team's games." He played in less than 50% and only a third of the conference games. So I guess you can't be ranked (and he wasn't) but you can be all conference. ???

Pierce was certainly deserving of a mention as his numbers and all around game suggest. But last place team, he's a freshman, easy to put him on the back burner. Walker was no slouch either. Easy to see why he was heavily recruited. With those 2 back next year and the addition of a few bigs that can contribute right away, things will be better.

Daniyan, Ruiz or Thomas, pick your poison. I've watched the progression of these players over the past three years (longer in the case of Thomas as he's a local product) and its been a pleasure to watch. In fact bear you were one of the first to comment 2 years ago about Ruiz and Daniyan after their first trip to Potsdam as freshman. Your quote was "these two will have Coach Curle's program in lights for years to come. How right you were! With the addition of Thomas and redshirt transfer Carl Munnerlyn, (injured last year) this year, The Cardinals have one of their best teams in Plattsburgh history. I actually thought Thomas might win POY honors because in addition to all his statistics he had a number of game winning baskets and several others that were the key basket. Ireally thought one of them would win it though. Especially after we beat Oneonta 3 times. In the 3 games against Oneonta, Thomas had 67 pts and 17 rebounds, Ruiz had 53 pts and 17 rebounds, Daniyan had 39 pts and 21 rebounds. Oneonta's Beckford The POY had 38 points and 24 rebounds in those 3 games. Go figure!

And I not only watched the Deane and Bence show when they were at Potsdam, but got to see it for many years in the PBA in Plattsburgh. It was always one of the highlights of the year when Deane and his PBA recruits rolled into the Burgh. Usually Sienna players or UVM standouts along with Larry Parker from Plattsburgh St., Joe Cardany,(Union's finest) and Drew Skonberg from SLU. Sad to see it discontinued several years ago. When Mike stopped playing it just faded away, as he was the main draw. Speaking of which he had a tough year at Wagner this year. Hopefully they'll rebound as well as his alma mater.

Need you and Dex to root for the Cards big time this weekend. I'm the defending champ in the NCAA Tournament Fantasy League over on the Multi Regional board and I went out on a limb when we had our draft the past couple days. Supposed to have a 5 man team but rules were bent and guys wanted to draft more players which I was against. We ended up with 6 man teams and as the players from all the top teams got gobbled up in the first 4 rounds of the draft I took Ruiz and Thomas as my last two picks. I'm thinking they win the 1st game against SUNYIT and the 2nd game against the Naz/Medaille winner. After that will probably come Williams in Williamstown. We may not win that game but if my guys play in 3 games they could give me 20-30 points each per game and I would be happy with that. But we really need to take care of business this weekend. Bear are you interested in coming over to take in a game? You could stay at my house overnight if you want. Tickets don't go on sale until 2 hours before the 1st game Friday night and I'll be there early to pick some up. Let me know and I'll get you one. My treat. You too jdex if you want to fly up. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 03, 2010, 07:43:48 PM
Magic - thanx for all the great info.

Actually stuck here this weekend. 

Have to take the wifey to Burlington on Monday to see the good docs there. Will wave on the way across the lake.

Will be interesting to see if Naz makes any noise.  They have ex Bear Greg Lothridge 6-11, who transferred after last season when Kelso beat him out for the top job.  He has had his moments - several double doubles, but struggles against athletic slashers, which 'burg has in quantity.

By the way, Deane got the axe yesterday at Wagner, says he still wants to coach.

Link here.

http://www.silive.com/colleges/index.ssf/2010/03/deane_not_ready_to_give_up_coa.html

Good Luck this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2010, 01:08:39 AM
bear
Thanks for the news on Mike, I didn't know. I usually go to the Wagner and Siena websites every few days to see how they fared in their games but hadn't had a chance since last week what with the conference tourney over here and the NCAA draw. Tonight was my night to catch up. I can't say I'm shocked but think Wagner is the loser in this situation. Mike is and has been a terrific coach at the many stops in his coaching career. It actually may be the proverbial blessing in disguise, because he might end up at a college that puts more into the program than Wagner seemed to. Would love nothing better than to see him take one more program to the big dance for the home run. Glad to see he won his final game there the other night to end the season on a winning note. You have to be doing something right to win 437 games as a college coach without the hint of of a recruiting scandal and as Tom Brennan said," one of the best x's and o's guys out there." I keep hoping McCaffery at Siena gets snatched by a bigger school and Mike gets his old job back. Especially with the venue the Saints now have to play in. This could be the year that might happen what with Siena's success in the MAAC. A nice win in the NCAA's and McCaffery might get some offers he can't refuse. By the way, you may already know this, but Edwin Ubilles, Siena's super 6'6" swingman is former Cardinals great, Anthony Williams' half brother. Anthony is still here in Plattsburgh doing grad work and is an assistant for Coach Curle.

Sounds like a trip to Fletcher Allen on Monday. Just routine I hope. And you'll only be a mile or so from my store as you get on Cumberland Head road. I'm open till 5:00 PM on Monday so stop by and say hello if you have a moment on your way back through. 77 Margaret St  downtown P'burgh. You could even sample the fare at a local eatery and Kiki could give Wally a review for his Food for Thought :D  

I knew Lothridge was at Naz and figured I'd get to see him this weekend. Might not be against the Card's though as Medaille could very well win that game. Looking forward to seeing Jostens Finalist Cory McAdam from Naz play as well. Over 1800 career pts and probable Empire 8 POY.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2010, 02:54:16 AM
Re Mike:

Siena won't happen.  D'Argenio is the AD, and he was only the SID when Mike was there.  Understand Mike was very tough on him (but always remember he's toughest on himself) in those days.

I was thinking that Binghamton could benefit from a guy like Mike to clean up their reputation.  Know he was in the mix the last time, but they obviously made a bad & costly decision.  He's the perfect guy to recruit student athletes to a place like Binghamton.  Here's Hoping.

Thanks for the offer, but appts are both Monday & Tuesday and then I have to get back to work

E8 always tends to underachieve when they get to the NCAA's.  Still remember facing undefeated Fisher team with supposed all-world point guard in '05, They just couldn't stand the defensive guard pressure, and their bigs just weren't competitive.  Perhaps this year, with Fisher hosting they will advance further.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2010, 04:50:50 AM
Plattsburgh State's Steve Thomas has picked up the final SUNYAC Player of the Week award for the 2009-10 season. Thomas, a junior transfer from Clinton Community College, won the award for the first time as a member of the Plattsburgh program. This past weekend he was named as the MVP of the SUNYAC Tournament leading the Cardinals to a 67-60 win over Oneonta in the championship game. He was the leading scorer in that game as he finished with a double-double of 28 points and 10 rebounds. For the week he averaged 21 points and 9.3 rebounds in the Cardinals 3 victories. he shot 19 x40 (47.5%) from the field and 23 x 29 (79.3%) from the foul line. On Monday he was named to the SUNYAC All Conference 2nd team.
For the year, Thomas is second on the team with 17.0 points and 6.6 rebounds per game. He leads the team with 31 steals, has 12 blocks, and is second on the squad with 66 assists.

Next up for the Cardinals is the first round of the NCAA Tournament, as they take on SUNYIT at 8 PM Friday evening March 5th, following the opening game between Nazareth College and Medaille at 6 PM. Tickets for the games will be sold at the door on gameday starting at 4:30. Prices for each day of competition are $6.00 for general admission and $3.00 for students and senior citizens. Friday's winners will face off on Satuday evening at 7 PM.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2010, 06:40:27 AM
Live stats and videocast of the Naz/Medaille game and the Plattsburgh /SUNYIT game are available this Friday and Saturday from Plattsburgh. Here are the links.


Live Stats:   http://www.sidearmstats.com/plattsburgh/mbball/index.htm

videocast:   http://www.primelink1.com/


Friday's games
Naz/Medaille game starts at 6 PM
Plattsburgh/SUNYIT starts at 8 PM

Saturday's game will match Friday's winners at 7 PM

For any Nazareth, Medaille, or SUNYIT fans that plan on making the trip up North here's the ticket info.
Tickets go on sale at the door on gameday starting at 4:30 PM. Prices for each day of competition are $6.00 for general admission, $3.00 for senior citizens and students.

Hotels: All are in the same general area and approx 1-2 miles from the college straight down the road.

Days Inn and Suites  518-561-0403
Holiday Inn 518-561-5000
The Inn at Smithfield  518-5617823
Hampton Inn and Suites 518-324-1100
LaQuinta Inns Inc   518-562-4000



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 04, 2010, 09:59:06 AM
Pat,

In reference to the Plattsburgh Bracket. I think the Basketball Cards will have the communities full attention. Hockey Cards on road in Oswego for SUNYAC Title on Saturday night.

Also Baseball Cards on road in Myrtle Beach which will open up more seats for the locals to take a look at the team.

Glad to see Coach Grimmer headed back to the North Country!
Title: SUNYAC Coaches
Post by: bopnation on March 04, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
Quick question for anyone who knows the Sunyac well, but more specifically Geneseo.  I've keeping an eye on them for the past few years and to me it just seems like they are poorly coached and don't utilize the talent that they have.  I feel that they have had good talent in the past couple years but it has been poorly managed.  What do you think about this?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2010, 01:33:09 PM
With their high selectivity and academic profile, Geneseo should be an elite program similar to the UAA schools.  Still there are a lot of student athletes that couldn't get into Geneseo, even with help from the admissions office.  Roster was loaded with talent, Stevens, Miller, Simpson all quality D-3 players.

Geneseo has a special talent program, thus can offer an education at an elite (but still reasonably priced) school as an incentive. 

They dominate in some sports, e.g. Cross Country, Swimming Lax, are competitive at a national level.  Their women's teams seem competitive across the board in nearly every sport.

Not sure what the missing variable in the equation is, They are in a great recruiting area, and have decent direct superhighway access to NYC & LI.

Hate to diss individual coaches on the board, has a habit of coming back to bite you.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 04, 2010, 02:19:46 PM
 with age came?--Give me your thoughts for your comment about the ECAC winner coming out of LL league other than they have 2 teams in it. Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on March 04, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: scooterman on March 04, 2010, 02:19:46 PM
with age came?--Give me your thoughts for your comment about the ECAC winner coming out of LL league other than they have 2 teams in it. Thanks

I'll throw my two cents in -- I'm hoping for an IC/Brockport final.  IC's uptempo style mixed with Brockport's full throttle defense would make an exciting matchup.  I think IC has solid enough guard play to handle the pressue as long as Rossi is strong with the ball -- he can be turnover prone at times but is way ahead of the freshman learning curve.  I think Jordan Marcus is hoping for a rematch with Hobart since he lit them up for 45 in the season opener.  Anyone know anything about RPI? Should IC have trouble with them?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
Don't forget, final three-plus hours to enter the D3hoops.com bracket challenge.

You have extra time for the women's bracket, since the first game isn't until 4 p.m. ET on Friday.

http://www.d3hoops.com/pickem/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 04, 2010, 11:38:04 PM
Just wanted to get some discussion going on the ECAC. Two teams vs one each for the other 2 leagues was part of it.  Think LL has been underated this year because the league is so balanced.  On the last weekend 7 of 8 teams were in the playoff hunt. 6 of 8 teams were .500 or better in the league.  RPI has some length that could give IC some trouble. Philatre is long and lanky 6'8" and they had another big that is a banger.  Good swingman in Rupp and guards by committee (lots of guys get some time).  Had NCAA experience last year but lost the "stud" Simmons to graduation. Played Middlebury (#9 ) very tough, MIT (#21) even tougher and beat SLU who was the liberty league champion twice.  That being said they are up & down as they finished 7-7 in the league and did not make the LL playoffs. Hobart is playing very well as of late and owns a victory over SJF.  Also possess a loss to Ithaca.  Other than St Law I felt they were the best team in the LL at the end of the season.  They are young and they are getting better. Brockport seemed to stumble a little at the end of the season (losing a lot of close games) but they do have the advantage of homecourt. Just like the LL chances with 2 teams but as always with IC live by the 3 die by 3 & Brockport has to capitalize on homecourt.  What are your thoughts Scootman?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: deputy dog on March 05, 2010, 08:55:42 AM
Fun Facts regarding Plattsburgh Bracket:

Kevin Broderick (Nazareth Coach) and Kevin Grimmer (SUNYIT Coach) both use to coach in the SUNYAC. Broderick at Oswego and Grimmer for the same team.

Floyd Thorne of SUNYIT use to play at nearby Paul Smith's College.

Medaille coach Mike Macdonald use to play in PBA basketball tourney in the Burgh. This was an adult men's tournament that use to show case a lot of former college players that once played their games in the North Country. (I.E. Mike Deane, Rick Carlisle, etc.)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 05, 2010, 12:27:07 PM
I really don't follow the LL at all. I just knoiw that Brockport beat St. Lawrence early in the season, and they are the LL representative to the NCAA. From watching from afar I was not impressed with the LL league. Ithaca is young but has talent and the E8 was a very good league at the top 5-6 teams. Brockport is my pick to win it because they bring it every night. They are undersized, but play with a lot of heart and soul. Coach Dunne and his staff get the most out of what they have. Even being vertically challenged they have a great Assist /TO ratio and share the ball. They are not a lock to win a championship but will be there in the end. Good luck, Eagles!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on March 05, 2010, 12:46:46 PM
Quote from: scooterman on March 05, 2010, 12:27:07 PM
I really don't follow the LL at all. I just knoiw that Brockport beat St. Lawrence early in the season, and they are the LL representative to the NCAA. From watching from afar I was not impressed with the LL league. Ithaca is young but has talent and the E8 was a very good league at the top 5-6 teams. Brockport is my pick to win it because they bring it every night. They are undersized, but play with a lot of heart and soul. Coach Dunne and his staff get the most out of what they have. Even being vertically challenged they have a great Assist /TO ratio and share the ball. They are not a lock to win a championship but will be there in the end. Good luck, Eagles!!!!!
I wouldn't rule out Hobart.  Although I haven't seen them play I know they won at Fisher and have a relatively experienced team.  Stefan Thompson was ROY in the Liberty League and the one game I saw him in high school he dropped like 35 @ Manley Field House in the sectional final.  That was a great game that ended with a kid (not Thompson)with the ball at halfcourt with three seconds to go trailing by one. He dribbled down and laid it in as time expired.  Huge lapse in defense cause the other team had no one back.  I was nervous for the kid -- no one in front of you three seconds to go down one point in the sectional final.  I know all he had to do was dribble down and lay it in but easier said than done at that juncture. But I digress --- Hobart very easily could knock off Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2010, 02:28:40 PM
Quote from: deputy dog on March 05, 2010, 08:55:42 AM
Fun Facts regarding Plattsburgh Bracket:

Kevin Broderick (Nazareth Coach) and Kevin Grimmer (SUNYIT Coach) both use to coach in the SUNYAC. Broderick at Oswego and Grimmer for the same team.

Floyd Thorne of SUNYIT use to play at nearby Paul Smith's College.

Medaille coach Mike Macdonald use to play in PBA basketball tourney in the Burgh. This was an adult men's tournament that use to show case a lot of former college players that once played their games in the North Country. (I.E. Mike Deane, Rick Carlisle, etc.)

Plattsburgh St. Coach Curle also was the coach at SUNYIT for 1 year back in 2002-03 leading the Wildcats to a 17-10 record and a berth in the ECAC's. SUNYIT finished with an 11-5 SUNYAC record that year and was 2nd in the conference standings after being picked to come in 10th in the preseason poll. I believe it was the best finish the Wildcats ever had in the SUNYAC conference and their 11 conference wins were the most in school history. The following season he became the Plattsburgh St. coach.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2010, 03:11:11 PM
Here's my guesses on tonight's action involving New York teams.

Plattsburgh St. 82    SUNYIT  70
Medaille 76   Nazareth  72
St. John Fisher 73  Brooklyn 65
Brandeis 77  St. Lawrence  68
Oneonta 68  Franklin and Marshall  66

Hope I'm wrong on the St. Lawrence score.

Naz/Medaille is tough game to pick because of Medaille's weak schedule, but they do have an impressive win over John Carroll.

Oneonta with a tough game against D3Hoops #20th ranked Franklin and Marshall  and are the dogs here but the Red Dragons own a win over #10th ranked William Paterson and I think they can get it done here if they play to their potential.  

Time to go get my tickets for the games in Plattsburgh tonight. I'll come on after the games with a synopsis of them.    GO CARDS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2010, 12:06:30 AM
Tonights results:

SUNYIT comes to PLattsburgh and downs the Cardinals 71-65. Diloo Brown scorches the nets for 31 points on 11x21 fg, 6x11 3's 3x4 ft. SUNYIT will take on Medaille Saturday evening for the right to go to the sweet 16.

Medaille comes from 11 points down 60-49 with 5:27 to play and gets a basket by Keith Hack with 1 second to go that ties it up and sends it to overtime. Mavericks jump out to a 4 point lead and are never caught as they down Nazareth 78-72

Brandeis downs St. Lawrence 76-64. The Judges are down 5 in the early going but catch the Saints at 17 apiece with 10:24 to play in the 1st. 20-7 run by Brandeis gives them a 13 point advantage and they were never threatened. Brandeis led at one point late in the 2nd by 25 points.

St John Fisher wins a tight one against Brooklyn 60-56. Cardinals end the game on an 11-2 run to advance against Brandeis tomorrow night. Down 54-49 with 4:27 to go Fishers gets back to back 3 pointers from Jordan Koch and Conner Henderson 24 seconds apart to grab a 55-54 lead they would never relinquish.

Franklin and Marshall defeats Oneonta St. 91-77 and will move on to face Merchant Marine on Saturday night. Diplomats break away from a 39-35 halftime advantage to open up a double digit lead with 12:45 remaining in the 2nd half. Red Dragon could never get within shouting distance after that.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2010, 04:33:51 AM
Tough way for the Cardinals season to come to an end, as they didn't play to their ability tonight and seemed out of synch right from the start. SUNYIT jumped out to a quick 5-0 lead and it took the Cards over 2 and a half minutes to get on the board with a Chris Ruiz 3 pointer. Back to back buckets by Errol Daniyan on 2 nice feeds from Steve Thomas gave the Cardinals the lead at 7-5. It was the 1st and only lead the Cards would enjoy all night. The Wildcats quickly tied it up with 2 free throws and shortly after, up 13-12 with 13:24 left in the 1st half, they went on a 24-7 run to open up an 18 point advantage at 37-19 with 2:10 remaining. Cardinals fought back to shorten the gap and went into the half down 41-29.
Teams traded baskets out of the break and with nearly 7 minutes gone the Wildcats were still ahead by a dozen at 54-42.  3 straight Cardinals baskets got them within 5 and a Steve Thomas 3 pulled them within 2 at 61-59 with 3 :27 left in the game. Up 64-60 with 1:49 on the clock Kevin Capiello hit the biggest basket of the game with a 3 pointer to stretch the lead to 7. Cards last gasp came on back to back buckets with a Daniyan layup, a Cards steal and Chris Ruiz putback of a missed Steve Thomas 3 point attempt . Ruiz was fouled on the play but misses the and 1 that would have cut it to 67-65 with 1:10 left. Wildcats come down, work the clock, shoot a three with 43 second left, miss and keep possession as the ball goes out of bounds off a Plattsburgh player. With a fresh shot clock it appears the Cards will have to foul but Carl Munnerlyn steals the ball with 25 seconds left and the ball goes ahead to Daniyan who makes a basket but is called for travel on the play. Ruiz quickly fouls on the inbound pass, and SUNYIT goes to the line but misses the front end of a 1 & 1. Cards rebound but seconds later turn it over and foul Dave Golembiowski who calmly makes both free throws to make it a 2 possession game. With 9 seconds left Wildcats steal the ball, score on a dunk and a technical is called against them for swatting the ball after the made basket. A Thomas frre throw is the final point of the game with 3 seconds left.

The biggest player on the hardwood at Memorial Hall tonight in this game or the one that preceded it between Nazareth and Medaille was one of the smallest players to take the floor, SUNYIT's Sr. guard 6'0" Diloo Brown. Right from the opening tip this guy did nothing but drive daggers into the heart of the Cards. He opened the game with a triple on the Wildcats' 1st field goal attempt and time and time again hit a big basket with the shot clock winding down. Corey McAdam from Nazareth was the E8 Player of the Year and both Plattsburgh and Medaille featured several All Conference performers but this guy was All World tonight. He scored 31 points, shooting 11x21 from the field and 6x11 from beyond the arc. he was 3x4 from the line and contributed 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals. Dave Golembiwski who will probably graduate next year as the all time leading scorer in SUNYIT history ( he has over 1500 points already) managed a double-double with 14 pts (5x16 fg 4x4 ft) and 10 rebounds. Floyd Fitzpatrick Thorne, a transfer from Paul Smith's College added 15 pts (6x13 fg, 0x2 3's 3x4 ft) and 7 rebounds. The Wildcats shot 27x62 (43.5%) from the field 7x27 (25.9%) from long range and 10x13 (76.9%) from the line. They out rebounded Plattsburgh 41-37 and committed 14 turnovers to 15 for the Cards.

Plattsburgh placed 3 players in double figures as Chris Ruiz and Steve Thomas each scored 18 points. Ruiz was 8x19 from the field, 2x7 3's and 0x1 ft's. He added 7 boards, 3 assists and 2 steals but had a game high 7 turnovers. Thomas shot 7x19 from the field 3x7 from long range and 1x3 from the line. he grabbed 8 boards, had 6 assists and 2 steals. Errol Daniyan was close behind with 17 points on 8x13 shooting and 1x2 from the stripe. He just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. Cardinals shot 27x67 (40.3%)from the field, 8x26 (30.8%) from beyond the arc and 3x8 (37.5%) from the line.

Plattsburgh ends their season with a 21-8 record. With their 4 top scorers and 12 returning players, next year should prove to be an even better one than this year's team had. The high hopes this group had of making a run deep into the tourney didn't happen but next year could be one of those magical seasons if they continue to improve their skills and get stronger on the defensive end of the court. Thanks for the great ride guys and good luck to Danny Tangney and Farris Thomas the 2 graduating seniors who didn't always get the accolades and headlines but always left it all on the court. It was a pleasure sitting with Danny's parents every weekend the team was at home as they faithfully traveled the 600 mile round trip to come up to the North Country and support their son and his team.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2010, 05:26:01 AM
Here's my guesses on tonight's action involving New York teams.

Plattsburgh St. 82    SUNYIT  70    Final Score:  Plattsburgh 65  SUNYIT 71 Only off by 1 on the SUNYIT part, it's the other side that's causing all the pain. :(

Medaille 76   Nazareth  72   Final Score:  Medaille 78   Nazareth 72  Not only picked the upset here but just missed the final as Naz commits a meaningless foul with a couple ticks left on the clock. Yelled hard at the Medaille player to make him miss but to no avail. Guy was 5 for 11 when he went to the line for the last 2 and of course swishes em both. ???
   
St. John Fisher 73  Brooklyn 65  Final Score: St. John Fisher 60 Brooklyn 56 Right winner just a little shy on the numbers. Although Brooklyn's 56 is 65 backwards. ;)

Brandeis 77  St. Lawrence  68   Final Score:  Brandeis 76  St Lawrence 64. Almost as good as the Naz/Medaille prognostication.
 
Oneonta 68  Franklin and Marshall  66  Final Score: F&M 91 Oneonta 77  Nothing close about this one. Went with my heart instead of my head. Shoulda known better than to go against a Final Four team from last year who had almost everybody back. Thought Brian Beckford might cause them problems. He had a decent game (18 pts, 6 rebounds) but F&M's James McNally was better (26 & 9) Based a lot of my prediction on Oneonta's defeat of 7th ranked William Paterson. Apparently they were overrated as they lose to (GULP) Albertus Magnus.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2010, 06:58:12 AM
Magic

Sorry to hear of the end of the Card's season.  Suspect that Grimmer & Co. had a little payback motivation vs. Mr. Curle.

Unfortunately the 'yac teams - men & women are one & done this season.  Lacrosse starts Monday.

Re: your Oneonta prediction, Grimes was hurt, only played 17' and was ineffective, big piece of their game as he does what he has to all over the court.  Don't know why Beckford came off the bench?

As you said, with 12 back, Cards can only get better.

Until next season.  Thanks for all the good work.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 06, 2010, 07:57:41 AM
Magic- I am very shocked and disappointed--I remember when IT was in SUNYAC, and they were usually middle of pack or little above. The Burg didn't come to play at their place? I am really sorry the YAC's didn't fare well. I agree that next year should be a good one for Coach Curle. I guess I will turn my attention to the ECAC's. Hopefully my beloved Eagles can bring home a championship. My prediction is Brockport and IC in the finals with the Port winning in OT.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: WNYHoops on March 06, 2010, 08:33:17 AM
I wrote on this board a few weeks back how good I thought both Medaille and SUNY IT were ... even though they play in lesser conferences. Fact is both the AMCC and NEAC have a few teams at the top of their leagues who could, and would, be very competitive and compete for championships in any league in the state. They proved it last night. Medaille is a true system team who is smart, well-coached and disciplined in their approach. SUNYIT is super athletic with two great players in Brown and Goleimbowski. They took down the winners of the Empire 8 and SUNYAC so please don't discount these "lesser" leagues and programs in the future. I read people bashing them for a weak conference and discounting them all the time on these boards. Fact is many schools from the LL, Empire 8 and SUNYAC won't schedule schools like Medaille, SUNYIT, Pitt Brad, Wells and Penn State Behrend because they know how difficult it is to play them. Hats off to the little guy for taking down the big dogs. That is what March Madness is all about!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2010, 04:51:51 PM
Brockport with an 18-0 run midway through the 1st half takes command against Hobart. Golden Eagles turn 11-8 deficit into a 26-11 advantage and coast into the break up 43-28.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 06, 2010, 11:44:45 PM
Well it is the Port and IC in the finals of the ECAC,s--Can the mighty midget men pull off their 2nd ECAC championship in 3 years? I think it will be a great game--As long as Coach Burton doesn't get to shoot and open 3's the Eagles should be in good shape. It is weird that the last E8 team and SUNY team in the post season are playing tomorrow.--- Very disappointing showing for both leagues in the NCAA's
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2010, 07:15:40 AM
Very entertaining game Saturday night between SUNYIT and Medaille at Memorial Hall in Plattsbugh. SUNYIT won it 64-63 but just like Friday night's win over Nazareth, Medaille had a chance to hit  the last shot and walk off the court with a win.
The Wildcats from Utica came flying out of the gate with a 5-0 lead that was stretched to double digits 6 and a half minutes into the game. Diloo Brown opened the scoring with 5 straight points, followed by 5 points from Fitzpatrick Thorne. After a Dave Golembiowski jumper it was Aaron Swancott's turn to score 5 points and just like that it was 17-7. The Wildcats would increase their lead to 13 at 21-8 with 9 minutes gone by when Medaille decided it was time to regroup. Or rather Mike Bekun of the Mavericks decided it was time to act. Berkun hit a jumper, then a triple, followed by a jumper by Ricky Reed. The Wildcat's Thorne brought the lead back to 8 with a monster dunk off a nice Diloo Brown feed, and then Berkun went back to work hitting 2 straight trifectas to give Medaille their 1st lead of the game at 24-23 with 6:10 to play in the period. Back came the Wildcats with an 11-0 run of their own capped by another Diloo Brown 3 pointer to restore a double digit lead at 34-24 with 2:10 remaining in the half. A 3 pointer by Keith Hack as the period ended, found Medaille down 35-29 at the break and the Maverick fans were happy that the margin wasn't larger.
Hoping to cut into the Wildcat's lead to start the 2nd and puzzled why SUNYIT's big man, Golembiowski stayed out beyond the arc attempting 3 pointers, the Medaille contingent soon had their answer. After going 0-3 from long range in the 1st half and missing another 3 point attempt early in the 2nd, Golembiowski poured in 13 of the next 15 Wildcat points. He started with 3 inside baskets completing a 3 point play on one and finished with back to back triples to stretch the Wildcat lead to as much as 18. His 1st 3 pointer made the score 47-29, completing a 12-0 run to open the half and after 4 Maverick points he hit a second 3 pointer to make it 50- 33 with only 4:28 gone by in the half. But the Mavericks refused to pack it in and still down 15 at 60-45 with 8:51 left to play they slowly chipped away and cut the lead to 9 at 60-51. SUNYIT's Thorne gets fouled on a made jumper and completes the 3 point play to again stretch the lead to 13, 64-51 with 6:13 to go. The Wildcats would not score another point. Trying to eat time off the clock the Wildcats deliberate half court offense backfired as they either missed their shot (0-7) or turned the ball over (4 TO's) on their final 11 possessions. Meanwhile a jumper by Keith Hack, a 3 pointer by Chris Moscato, a short jumper by Ron Malicki, and a jumper by Ricky Reed made it 64-60 with 3:06 to play. Medaille loses an opportunity when Reed misses 2 foul shots with 2:21 left and after another Wildcat turnover, Keith Hack's layup attempt at the 1:48 mark hits the front of the rim and tries to roll in but it appears basket interference occurs while the ball is on the rim. The refs don't make the call as the bench goes wild and Coach MacDonald has to be restrained by his assistants to prevent a technical. The Wildcats come down, miss a 3 point attempt, get the rebound and Adam Swancott is fouled. He misses the front end of a 1 & 1, the Mavericks' Malicki grabs the rebound, drives to the hoop, makes the basket and is fouled. He hits the free throw to cut it to 64-63 with 49 seconds left. SUNYIT comes down and misses a 3 by Golembiowski with 17 seconds left. Medaille rebounds the ball and brings it down for the final shot but Reed loses the handle, gets tied up with the possession arrow going to SUNYIT and 7 seconds left in the game. Taking the ball out of bounds on the sideline at Medaille's end the SUNYIT fans witnessed the shortest 5 seconds in recorded history as the ref makes a 5 second call on the inbounds pass to give the Mavericks one final opportunity. The Medaille fans I were sitting with were stunned at the turn of events ( but extremely happy) and were pretty sure it was a makeup call for the missed basket interference. (No doubt about it) It was all for naught though, as the Medaille player (he shall remain nameless by me) loses the ball as he makes his move to the basket. SUNYIT's Diloo Brown comes up with the ball and throws it the length of the court as time expires.

The Wildcats Were led by Golembiowski with 22 points and 15 rebounds. Brown and Thorne both had 14 pts while Swancott added 12.

Ron Malicki led Medaille with 15 pts followed by Mike Berkun with 14 and Chris Moscato with 12. Keith Hack had 8 pts and was the Mavericks leading rebounder with 9.
Medaille ends their most successful season in school history at 24-5 and they won an NCAA tournament game for the 1st time ever.

SUNYIT improves to 26-4 and advances to the Sweet 16 for the first time in their history, moving a step further than last year when they lost to St. Lawrence in a 2nd round game.
Williams the #2 ranked team in the country is their next opponent in the sectional on March 12th-13th, which will most likely be held in Williamstown Mass. That sectional will also have Brandeis, who beat #25 St John Fisher, and Rhode Island College who upset #9 Middlebury.

           
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2010, 06:46:29 PM
Brockport St. falls to Ithaca 78-71 in the final of the Upstate ECAC tournament.

Ithaca led at the half 36-32 but Brockport caught the Bombers at 42 all with 3:12 gone in the 2nd and opened up a 5 pt lead, their largest of the game, with 15:43 to play. The teams would exchange leads 7 more times with 3 ties before Ithaca's
Andrei Oztemel hit a 3 pointer with 1:51 remaining to give the Bombers a 71-69 advantage. Ithaca extended their lead to 5 at 74-69, and Brockport closed to within 3 but Ithaca hit 4 foul shots down the stretch to pull away. Oztemel was named Most Outstanding player and finished with 14 pts and 8 rebounds. Phil Barera was the game's leading scorer with 23 points and 11 rebounds. Jordan Marcus, Sean Rossi, and Chris Cruz-Rivas all added 11 points each.
For Brockport, Anthony Hall led the way with 15 pts followed by Jermaine Johnson, Gerald Williams, and Brandon Williams with 11 points each. Andy Marchand chipped in with 10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 08, 2010, 08:44:10 AM
Well Magic --This is Scooterman signing off for another season--Back to the golf course where I can control my destiny(usually)---unless my putter or wedge go south for the day--Everyone enjoy and hopefully talk to you next season--God willing---I enjoyed all the banter and information!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 09, 2010, 09:07:41 PM
Scooter- my contrite apology for my lack of basketball acumen regarding the ECAC is over on the Liberty League board.  Boy was I wrong....even with 2 teams on my side....  enjoy your golf game...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on March 10, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
What's the general consensus on the SUNYAC boards about SUNYIT being the only SUNY school remaining after leaving the conference? Any feelings of animosity/embarassment or just happy at least one team in the region is still alive?

And what are their chances against #2 Williams and Jostens (D3 POY) award winner Blake Schultz?

Williams faced a couple East region teams this year:
Beat Cortland State 72-68
Beat LL bottom feeder Vassar 111-74
Beat E8 bottom feader Elmira 85-64
Beat bottom/middle of the SUNYAC pack New Paltz - 70-68
Beat bottom/middle of the LL pack Hamilton  96-61

SUNY IT beat New Paltz - 97-82
SUNY IT beat Hamilton - 82-69
Lost to Cortland 78-61

On paper, SUNYIT has a daunting task ahead of them (27-1 #2 in the nation, national POY) but they don't seem to be easily intimidated and might put up a fight...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2010, 05:11:04 PM
Don't automatically equate Jostens with national player of the year. It's a basketball/academic/community service award.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2010, 12:52:24 PM
The D3Hoops All Region Teams have just been released.

Corey McAdam of Nazareth College was chosen as the All East Region Player of the year.

SUNYAC players Chris Ruiz, junior guard from Plattsburgh St. and Errol Daniyan junior forward also from Plattsburgh St. were named to the All East Region 2nd Team.

Oneonta St. senior center, Brian Beckford was was named to the 2nd Team as well.

Here is the complete list of award winners from the East Region. Congratulations to all of these outstanding players.

Men's All-East Region Team
Players were nominated for these awards by the Sports Information Directors at the various schools. All SIDs in the region were given the opportunity to vote.

Player of the Year: Corey McAdam, Sr., Nazareth
Coach of the Year: Kevin Grimmer, SUNYIT
Rookie of the Year: Stefan Thompson, G, Hobart

First team

Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G Corey McAdam Nazareth Sr. Fairport, N.Y.
G Diloo Brown SUNYIT Sr. Harlem, N.Y.
F Matt Pebole Hobart So. Little Silver, N.J.
F Phil Barera Ithaca Jr. Belmont, Mass. 
C David Golembiowski SUNYIT Jr. Barneveld, N.Y.

Second team

Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G Chris Ruiz Plattsburgh State Jr. Washington Hts., N.Y.
G Darrell Bullock Wells Sr. Chicago, Ill.
F Errol Daniyan Plattsburgh State Jr. Coram, N.Y.
C Juan Paulino Wells Sr. Bronx, N.Y.
C Brian Beckford Oneonta State Sr. Brooklyn, N.Y.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 18, 2010, 03:31:35 AM
The National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) named their All-District and All-American teams today:

Here is the East Region All-District Teams:
*Denotes Player of the Year

First Team                                 Second Team
*Corey McAdam, Nazareth              Keith Jensen, NYU
Josh Sharlow, St. Lawrence               Diloo Brown, SUNYIT
Brian Beckford, Oneonta                    Phil Barera, Ithaca
Keith Hack, Medaille                          Matt Pebole, Hobart
Chris Ruiz, Plattsburg State                Matt Newman, St. John Fisher
Dave Golembiowski, SUNYIT
Coach of the Year: Kevin Grimmer – SUNYIT

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nabc/genrel/auto_pdf/2010D3All-America.pdf

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nabc/genrel/auto_pdf/2010D3All-District.pdf

All-Americans

1st Team
Tyler Sanborn, Guilford, 6-9, Senior, Center, Elkin, N.C.
Blake Schultz, Williams, 6-3, Senior, Guard/Forward, Atherton, Calif.
Ian Franks, Wooster, 6-4, Junior, Guard, Greenwich, Ohio
Dustin Mitchell, UW-Whitewater, 6-9, Senior, Forward/Center, Lac Du Flambeau, Wis.
Marcel Esonwune, York (NY), 6-6, Junior, Forward/Center, Lagos, Nigeria
Darnell Braswell, DeSales, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Allentown, Pa.
Corey McAdam, Nazareth, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Fairport, N.Y.
Steve Djurickovic, Carthage, 6-3, Junior, Guard, Pleasant Prairie, Wis.

2nd Team
Trey Drake, North Carolina Wesleyan, 5-8, Senior, Guard, Emporia, Va.
Noel Hollingsworth, MIT, 6-9, Sophomore, Forward, Salt Lake City, Utah
Kyle Meyer, Ohio Northern, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Columbus Grove, Ohio
Nate Montgomery, Whitworth, 6-8, Senior, Center, Sammamish, Wash.
Abdoulaye Ouedraogo, William Paterson, 6-8, Senior, Forward, Newark, N.J.
James McNally, Franklin & Marshall, 6-6, Junior, Forward, Bridgewater, N.J.
Josh Sharlow, St. Lawrence, 5-9, Senior, Guard, Norwood, N.Y.
John Hoch, Carroll, 5-10, Senior, Guard, Colgate, Wis.

3rd Team
Greg Hernandez, Maryville, 6-6, Senior, Center, Miami, Fla.
Adam Choice, Colby, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Newport, R.I.
Michael McClary, Olivet, 6-5, Junior, Center, Bellaire, Mich.
Tyler Nicolai, St. Thomas, 5-11, Junior, Guard, Minnetonka, Minn.
Richard Jean-Baptiste, Brooklyn, 6-4, Senior, Forward, Queens, N.Y.
Nick Brady, York (PA), 6-2, Senior, Guard, Hanover, Pa.
Brian Beckford, Oneonta, 6-9, Senior, Forward, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Sean Wallis, Washington University (St. Louis), 6-2, Graduate, Guard, Northbrook, Ill.

NABC selects All-Americans differently than D3hoops.  They pick one player from each region for each All-America team.  So the best player in each region is 1st team, 2nd best is 2nd team, and 3rd best is 3rd team.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2010, 02:22:19 AM
D3Hoops announced this year's All American Teams prior to Saturday's National Championship Game.

Corey McAdam from Nazareth was named to the second team. He was the only player from the East region who was honored. I was surprised that David Golembiowski of SUNYIT was not on the list anywhere. The Preseason All American list had Golembiowski on the 4th team and McAdam on the list of honorable mention players. After the year Golembiowski and SUNYIT had I fail to see why he was omitted from the post season all american awards.

No surprise for the Player of the Year honors as junior guard Steve Djurickovic of Carthage College won that award. Good chance he'll win it next year as well.


Here is the link to see the complete list:

http://www.d3hoops.com/all-american/menallam10.htm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 21, 2010, 09:01:57 AM
We just had too many good centers. Golembiowski was on the board all the way until the end. We couldn't even cut it down to five centers, the group was so well-qualified.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 21, 2010, 09:01:57 AM
We just had too many good centers. Golembiowski was on the board all the way until the end. We couldn't even cut it down to five centers, the group was so well-qualified.

I understand. There were a lot of good centers this year in D3. The good news is Golembiowski is only a junior and next year might be his turn. No Diloo Brown to help him out though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 22, 2010, 10:39:41 PM
DIII News publication has announced their All American teams today.

Tyler Sanborn of Guilford was named as the Player of the Year

Corey McAdam of Nazareth was named to the 4th team

David Golembiowski of SUNYIT was named to the 4th team

Honorable Mention
Chris Ruiz of Plattsburgh State
Brian Beckford Oneonta State
Josh Sharlow of St. Lawrence
Keith Hack Medaille

Here is a link for the complete list:

http://www.smallcollegehoops.com/Home_files/D3NAATeam10.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on May 13, 2010, 11:09:25 PM
Just learned today that Plattsburgh State Associate Head Men's Basketball Coach Cameron Conover has applied for the Skidmore Head Coaching position. Conover has been at Plattsburgh State for the past 5 years assisting Coach Tom Curle and became the associate head coach several years ago. The Cardinals have been one of the top D3 schools in the state during that time winning 4 SUNYAC titles in 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2010. They went to the NCAA tourney in each of those seasons and will probably be favored to win the SUNYAC title again this coming season as they return nearly all of their starting lineup. Conover's time spent under Curle's tutelage should prove invaluable and would make him a good fit for this young Skidmore team. He has his masters degree and at 30 or 31 years old he's a candidate that will probably spend a considerable amount of time in his first head coaching position. Skidmore should challenge for the Liberty League title next year as they return most of their rotation. Hope the Thoroughbreds hire a good coach, whoever that turns out to be, but they sure can't go wrong if it ends up being Conover.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:52 AM
 Found out yesterday that Coach Curle and Assistant Coach Conover have an outstanding group of recruits headed to Plattsburgh State this fall. Five freshmen, all between 6'5" and 6'7", will join the program and help the Cardinals defend their SUNYAC title. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:52 AM
Found out yesterday that Coach Curle and Assistant Coach Conover have an outstanding group of recruits headed to Plattsburgh State this fall. Five freshmen, all between 6'5" and 6'7", will join the program and help the Cardinals defend their SUNYAC title. 
Big man by committee eh?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:52 AM
Found out yesterday that Coach Curle and Assistant Coach Conover have an outstanding group of recruits headed to Plattsburgh State this fall. Five freshmen, all between 6'5" and 6'7", will join the program and help the Cardinals defend their SUNYAC title. 
Big man by committee eh?

Actually, I believe a couple of the 6'5" guys are guards and the possibility of a 6'10'' big man recruit is in the works. They do have 6'6" 1st team All Conference forward Errol Daniyan (15.2 ppg and 8.3 rpg) returning and 6'10" R.J. Ponesse who gave them some quality minutes last year will also be back and hopefully continues to improve.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 05:07:10 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:52 AM
Found out yesterday that Coach Curle and Assistant Coach Conover have an outstanding group of recruits headed to Plattsburgh State this fall. Five freshmen, all between 6'5" and 6'7", will join the program and help the Cardinals defend their SUNYAC title. 
Big man by committee eh?

Actually, I believe a couple of the 6'5" guys are guards and the possibility of a 6'10'' big man recruit is in the works. They do have 6'6" 1st team All Conference forward Errol Daniyan (15.2 ppg and 8.3 rpg) returning and 6'10" R.J. Ponesse who gave them some quality minutes last year will also be back and hopefully continues to improve.
That is a HUGE team, especially by East region standards.  If they are anything other than big stiffs then they have a shot at going deep in the NCAA's (if they progress from last year's NCAA appearance that is).  That is one major advantage come playoff time and is a requirement to compete with the Williamses and Amhersts of the world.  Look at Amherst's roster -- 11 players 6'5 or over.  Williams has 9 over 6'5.  When you compare that against top east region teams it is a decided advantage. 

Ithaca - 5
St Lawrence - 4
St John Fisher - 5
SUNY IT - 2
Plattsburgh - 3


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on June 11, 2010, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 05:07:10 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:52 AM
Found out yesterday that Coach Curle and Assistant Coach Conover have an outstanding group of recruits headed to Plattsburgh State this fall. Five freshmen, all between 6'5" and 6'7", will join the program and help the Cardinals defend their SUNYAC title. 
Big man by committee eh?

Actually, I believe a couple of the 6'5" guys are guards and the possibility of a 6'10'' big man recruit is in the works. They do have 6'6" 1st team All Conference forward Errol Daniyan (15.2 ppg and 8.3 rpg) returning and 6'10" R.J. Ponesse who gave them some quality minutes last year will also be back and hopefully continues to improve.
That is a HUGE team, especially by East region standards.  If they are anything other than big stiffs then they have a shot at going deep in the NCAA's (if they progress from last year's NCAA appearance that is).  That is one major advantage come playoff time and is a requirement to compete with the Williamses and Amhersts of the world.  Look at Amherst's roster -- 11 players 6'5 or over.  Williams has 9 over 6'5.  When you compare that against top east region teams it is a decided advantage. 

Ithaca - 5
St Lawrence - 4
St John Fisher - 5
SUNY IT - 2
Plattsburgh - 3




I believe UofR had 7 guys 6'5" or taller last year, but their starting "4" was 6'3"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on June 14, 2010, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on June 11, 2010, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 05:07:10 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 10, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:52 AM
Found out yesterday that Coach Curle and Assistant Coach Conover have an outstanding group of recruits headed to Plattsburgh State this fall. Five freshmen, all between 6'5" and 6'7", will join the program and help the Cardinals defend their SUNYAC title. 
Big man by committee eh?

Actually, I believe a couple of the 6'5" guys are guards and the possibility of a 6'10'' big man recruit is in the works. They do have 6'6" 1st team All Conference forward Errol Daniyan (15.2 ppg and 8.3 rpg) returning and 6'10" R.J. Ponesse who gave them some quality minutes last year will also be back and hopefully continues to improve.
That is a HUGE team, especially by East region standards.  If they are anything other than big stiffs then they have a shot at going deep in the NCAA's (if they progress from last year's NCAA appearance that is).  That is one major advantage come playoff time and is a requirement to compete with the Williamses and Amhersts of the world.  Look at Amherst's roster -- 11 players 6'5 or over.  Williams has 9 over 6'5.  When you compare that against top east region teams it is a decided advantage. 

Ithaca - 5
St Lawrence - 4
St John Fisher - 5
SUNY IT - 2
Plattsburgh - 3




I believe UofR had 7 guys 6'5" or taller last year, but their starting "4" was 6'3"
Yes U of R is one of the exceptions in the East region, which is possibly why they have made deep runs into the tournament in the recent past.  Height isn't everything obviously but when you have two teams with comparable talent and one team has a significant height advantage it makes it very difficult to win.  IC played Amherst last season Amherst started 5 guys over 6'4" or taller if I'm not mistaken.  They got killed on the boards 55-34 -- 99 times out of 100 you're going to lose with a rebounding disadvantage that large. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on June 14, 2010, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 14, 2010, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on June 11, 2010, 01:40:44 PM


I believe UofR had 7 guys 6'5" or taller last year, but their starting "4" was 6'3"
Yes U of R is one of the exceptions in the East region, which is possibly why they have made deep runs into the tournament in the recent past.  Height isn't everything obviously but when you have two teams with comparable talent and one team has a significant height advantage it makes it very difficult to win.  IC played Amherst last season Amherst started 5 guys over 6'4" or taller if I'm not mistaken.  They got killed on the boards 55-34 -- 99 times out of 100 you're going to lose with a rebounding disadvantage that large. 

Unless you're Brockport State who started 5 guys 6'0" or smaller last season and were out-rebounded in just about every game they played, many of them by hefty margins, yet still managed to win a majority of those games. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on June 14, 2010, 01:52:34 PM
Quote from: magicman on June 14, 2010, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 14, 2010, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on June 11, 2010, 01:40:44 PM


I believe UofR had 7 guys 6'5" or taller last year, but their starting "4" was 6'3"
Yes U of R is one of the exceptions in the East region, which is possibly why they have made deep runs into the tournament in the recent past.  Height isn't everything obviously but when you have two teams with comparable talent and one team has a significant height advantage it makes it very difficult to win.  IC played Amherst last season Amherst started 5 guys over 6'4" or taller if I'm not mistaken.  They got killed on the boards 55-34 -- 99 times out of 100 you're going to lose with a rebounding disadvantage that large. 

Unless you're Brockport State who started 5 guys 6'0" or smaller last season and were out-rebounded in just about every game they played, many of them by hefty margins, yet still managed to win a majority of those games. ;D

Tall ain't all.  But it helps....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bomber3 on June 17, 2010, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: magicman on June 14, 2010, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: bomber3 on June 14, 2010, 11:27:00 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on June 11, 2010, 01:40:44 PM


I believe UofR had 7 guys 6'5" or taller last year, but their starting "4" was 6'3"
Yes U of R is one of the exceptions in the East region, which is possibly why they have made deep runs into the tournament in the recent past.  Height isn't everything obviously but when you have two teams with comparable talent and one team has a significant height advantage it makes it very difficult to win.  IC played Amherst last season Amherst started 5 guys over 6'4" or taller if I'm not mistaken.  They got killed on the boards 55-34 -- 99 times out of 100 you're going to lose with a rebounding disadvantage that large. 

Unless you're Brockport State who started 5 guys 6'0" or smaller last season and were out-rebounded in just about every game they played, many of them by hefty margins, yet still managed to win a majority of those games. ;D

Yes, that was a team I wish I had the opportunity to watch.  They were the exception to the rule and they were a good team but not great -- finished 17-12.  Although they were a good team I doubt that is what they planned from the beginning of the season.  My guess is they made the most of what they had and salvaged a potentially poor season.  I highly doubt they recrutied players thinking "lets only recruit players around 6'0 and get outrebounded by 10+ every game."  They simply made the most of what they had and I commend the coaching staff for trying something unorthodox. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 07, 2010, 02:19:38 PM
Less than 10 days till the start of practice for the 2010-2011 SUNYAC season. Am I the only 1 excited?  ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bmull on October 13, 2010, 07:37:30 PM
Friends  Could you give a shout-out if a 10-11 roster gets posted?  Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 14, 2010, 11:05:26 AM
No Problem!
Title: Re: MBB: State University rosters
Post by: bmull on October 24, 2010, 02:14:35 PM
Thanks to Oswego, Brockport and Plattsburgh for some 10-11 rosters, so far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 28, 2010, 01:23:13 PM
Plattsburgh State tops the East Region teams in the D3hoops Top 25 Preseason men's poll, that was released earlier today. The Cardinals receive 126 points and check in at #22. No other East region team cracked the top 25. The other Cardinals, St John Fisher, was the next East region team mentioned as they received 9 points in the others receiving votes category. SUNYIT also received 7 points and NYU got 2 points.

Here's the link to the complete poll: http://d3hoops.com/top25/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 29, 2010, 03:34:50 PM
Plattsburgh State's complete roster showing the 5 new Freshman recruits has now been posted. Here's the link:

http://www.gocardinalsports.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball

Had a chance to watch the team during an intra-squad scrimmage a couple of nights ago and the freshmen looked pretty good. Cardinals will lose 8 seniors off this year's team so it was imperative for Coach Curle to go out and get a decent group of recruits. It looks like he's done just that. Will need to do the same thing again next year.
6'10" senior RJ Ponesse looked good in the scrimmage. He's slimmed down, gotten stronger and showed off a nice shooting touch from 12' to 15'. Looks like he'll get a chance to start this year.

Chris Ruiz, 6'4" senior guard and 2 time 1st team All Conference selection, was just named to the DIII News Preseason All-America Team. Ruiz led the SUNYAC in scoring last year with a 17.2 average. He won a number of awards last season and I'm hoping D3hoops is considering him for their preseason All American awards as well.

The Cardinals will open up their season on the road against Lyndon St. College on Monday Nov. 15th. They will then head downstate to participate in the Manhattanville Castle Classic and face a tough Western Connecticut State team on Friday Nov 19th.  Western Connecticut is one of the favorites to win the Little East Conference.  The winner of that game will face off against the winner of the Manhattanville/Wheelock contest on Saturday afternoon Nov. 20th.  



 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 30, 2010, 01:00:50 AM
B. S. C. Bengals roster is now posted!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on October 30, 2010, 08:47:19 PM
Watch out for my Eagles--New look and very athletic--Going to cause some SUNYAC teams some problems--And of course a great staff to steer them in the right direction!! Go Eagles
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 03, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
Potsdam Roster is Posted.

http://www.potsdam.edu/athletics/teams/mensbasketball/roster.cfm

8 returnees
6 freshmen
1 transfer

Newcomers bring some interior size, which was in short supply last year.

Enter the season with a 2 game win streak to build on.

Reason for optimism.  Still think that Plattsburgh, Brockport & Oswego are the teams to beat.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bmull on November 03, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
Potsdam transfer Drysdale is from St Joe's (NAIA) Vermont, where he was a solid 2 year player. HS ball at NYC Frederick Douglass, coached by great Pat Mangan.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 04, 2010, 02:46:33 AM
Quote from: thebear on November 03, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
Potsdam Roster is Posted.

http://www.potsdam.edu/athletics/teams/mensbasketball/roster.cfm

8 returnees
6 freshmen
1 transfer

Newcomers bring some interior size, which was in short supply last year.

Enter the season with a 2 game win streak to build on.

Reason for optimism.  Still think that Plattsburgh, Brockport & Oswego are the teams to beat.




bear,
How tall are those newcomers? Roster gives no height or weight. Hope they're all 6'4" and up. Brockport added some needed height to go with all those havoc raising guards. The Bears needed to do the same. Potsdam gave Plattsburgh all they could handle last year even with no size. Agree that the above teams you mention are ones to watch out for but Buff State and New Paltz should be tough as well. Looks like it will again be a typical SUNYAC slugfest.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 04, 2010, 10:02:29 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 04, 2010, 02:46:33 AM
Buff State should be tough as well. Looks like it will again be a typical SUNYAC slugfest.

Magicman....I couldn't have said it better myself
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 04, 2010, 12:05:29 PM
Magic

Actually Rob Duquette from Peru is one of the newbies, well known in your parts, and looks ready to play college ball, he definitely knows where the weight room is. 6-5 or so.

Drysdale is 6-4 or 6-5, Colin Peterson from Hilton is 6-7, skilled, but needs some bulk.

With everyone dropping down 1 or 2 positions, Bears should be much improved.  For first time since 04-05 Elite 8 year, we appear to have decent depth in the paint.

I agree, Plattsburgh with 4 all-conference players + Ponesse is the favorite.  They should be able to compete with any D-III team out there.

Once again the rest of the SUNYAC will beat up on each other.  Fredonia may also be a sleeper, 9 newcomers, including a bunch of jucos.

We open with our traditional exhibition against 15-1 Algonquin on Monday night.  They are VERY athletic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 08, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
Quote from: thebear on November 04, 2010, 12:05:29 PM
Magic
Once again the rest of the SUNYAC will beat up on each other.  Fredonia may also be a sleeper, 9 newcomers, including a bunch of jucos.

thebear...I was wondering where you saw the 2010-2011 Fredonia roster? I just looked at thier website and (as they traditionally do) Fredonia still had the 2009-2010 roster posted. That roster included at least 9 underclassmen.

  Just curious to see what they have going for this year!

P.s. After beating up on Sheridan College (Canadian team - exhibition) last Friday, the BENGALS
get a much sterner test at D-1 Canisius College tommorrow (Tuesday) night. A little sidelight to that game will be the Simmons brothers doing battle againest each other.

  The BENGALS Jake Simmons (SUNYACs' reigning "Rookie of the year" and 4th leading scorer last season) will face-off against his brother Tomas Vasquez - Simmons (Canisius #2 scorer and leading rebounder from last season).

Get your popcorn ready ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 08, 2010, 05:30:43 PM
Bengals

2010-11 Fredonia Roster is up, has been since last week.

Sometimes you have to hit refresh on your browser to clear the cache.

They have 18 listed on the roster, Including 10 names that don't appear on the 09-10 stats, 7 of them juniors.

Good luck against the Griffins, though they appear to have size and athleticism to spare.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 09, 2010, 01:02:22 AM
Got it bear...and thanks for the "Good Luck".
Canisius definitly has the goods (and we are missing T. O. Jackson our leading rebounder). However McMurry and DePauw give us hope (with thier victories over D-1 schools)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 09, 2010, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 08, 2010, 05:30:43 PM
Bengals

Good luck against the Griffins, though they appear to have size and athleticism to spare.

The BENGALS fought hard and lost to Canisius 84-72. What was really impressive was that with 4:47 left in the game the BENGALS were down by only 5 (71-66).

BENGALS shot 10-22 from the 3 pt line (45.5%) and that kept them in the game. So many ways/chances that Buff State had to pull this 1 off. 2nd yr player Jake Simmons led the way with 20 pts (5/10 - 3ptrs.) and bested his big brother Tomas Vasquez Simmons - Canisius who had 12 pts. The surprise of the season so far has been Junior Chris Cartwright, a transfer from Tompkins Cortland C. C., who chipped in 25 (also 5/10 from beyond the arc). In a 3 minute stretch in the 2nd half (9:37 to the 6:45 mark) Cartwright hit 3  treys in a row.

BENGALS were clearly outmanned up front, especially with last seasons leading rebounder and 2nd leading scorer, T. O. Jackson, out of the game injured. Junior Ahmed Nagaya came off the bench and chipped in 10 pts and Senior Glenroy Carr added 7 pts and 2 blocks.

Trust me when I say that Buff State did the SUNYAC proud. And since no other SUNYAC team is paying a visit to a D-1 arena, this season, it is safe to say that the YAC's lone venturer into D-1 land did our conference proud.

I cant wait for the SUNYAC season to start 12/3! ;)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: d3hooper33 on November 09, 2010, 11:07:07 PM
wow thats great buff state looks good this year... How did potsdam play on monday? see they started 2 freshman and where missing some guys?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2010, 02:09:25 AM
Quote from: d3hooper33 on November 09, 2010, 11:07:07 PM
wow thats great buff state looks good this year... How did potsdam play on monday? see they started 2 freshman and where missing some guys?

Potsdam dropped a close one 67-65 to Algonquin College from Canada. Here's a link to the write up:   

http://www.potsdam.edu/athletics/teams/mensbasketball/110810algonquin.cfm

Algonquin has been playing games since Sept. 24th and is now 18-1.

Good job by the Bengals against Canisius and while Jake outscored his brother Tomas 20 -12, Tomas had 7 pts in a row near the end of the game to keep Canisius in control.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Thunder on November 10, 2010, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 10, 2010, 02:09:25 AM
Quote from: d3hooper33 on November 09, 2010, 11:07:07 PM
wow thats great buff state looks good this year... How did potsdam play on monday? see they started 2 freshman and where missing some guys?

Potsdam dropped a close one 67-65 to Algonquin College from Canada. Here's a link to the write up:   

http://www.potsdam.edu/athletics/teams/mensbasketball/110810algonquin.cfm

Algonquin has been playing games since Sept. 24th and is now 18-1.

Good job by the Bengals against Canisius and while Jake outscored his brother Tomas 20 -12, Tomas had 7 pts in a row near the end of the game to keep Canisius in control.

Algonquin Thunder are also the number one ranked college team in Canada.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 10, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
Potsdam had two senior starters out, plus their backup point guard. Algonquin was missing several players, as crossing the border isn't simple these days, particularly with complex last names.

Potsdam did indeed start two freshman, a sophomore, a junior, and a senior.  They played 9 guys. Algonquin played 7 & 1/2. (I think the Thunder had an asst coach suited up in case they got into foul trouble).

It was your typical exhibition game.  Algonquin had played 19 games, Potsdam had two scrimmages and two senior starters in street clothes on the bench.  Thunder are well coached and have some excellent athletic players.

The officiating was to put it politely "rusty", They called 26 fouls in the first half, and could have easily doubled that.
They obviously are working their way into game shape as well.  Terrible calls went in both directions & continued down the stretch.

Bears open on Monday vs. Utica Pioneers.  Women at 6, men at 8.  Still a work in progress.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2010, 06:26:51 PM
D3hoops released their preseason All-American teams today. Only East region player to get mentioned is Dave Golembiowski from SUNYIT who was named to the 4th team. Golembiowski surpassed the 1500 point mark last season and will most likely be one of the few players to top the 2000 point total for his career.



Here's the link to the complete list:  http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2011
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 13, 2010, 11:25:34 AM

To take a few minutes away from our Florida sun and fun, and prior to Cortaca kickoff ...........

Early long distance glimpse of Red Dragon roundball  doesn't exactly foster bigtime bragging. Roster shows no return of would-be seniors R. Evans and C. Milke. Also, no B. Manning among cast of 16. Sole senior is All-Conference D. Marshall from the backcourt, plus veteran soph guards J. Smith, J. Winters and J. LaMont. Count six frosh, five sophs. Long winter for Span? With much seen from Pburgh, Buffs, Ports,  rising Pdam, et al ...... we hope for the best ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 14, 2010, 01:46:05 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 13, 2010, 11:25:34 AM

Roster shows no return of would-be seniors R. Evans and C. Milke. Also, no B. Manning among cast of 16. Sole senior is All-Conference D. Marshall from the backcourt, plus veteran soph guards J. Smith, J. Winters and J. LaMont. Count six frosh, five sophs. Long winter for Span?

Hell of an observation there JDEX!. #3, 4 and 5 scorers from last year (Winters, Evans and Manning) all no shows for 2010-2011 plus the #7 and 8 scorers from last year (Lamont and Smith) AWOL also. I knew Spanbauer was tough but ...WOW!

BENGALS open SUNYAC play, at home, vs. Cortland on the 3rd of December. I'm gonna reserve comment on "Dusty" (started his SUNYAC career in a BENGALS uniform vs SUNY BINGHAMTON in 2008 then quit team after that game) and the Dragons till after December 3rd.

Enjoy the sun!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2010, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 14, 2010, 01:46:05 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 13, 2010, 11:25:34 AM

Roster shows no return of would-be seniors R. Evans and C. Milke. Also, no B. Manning among cast of 16. Sole senior is All-Conference D. Marshall from the backcourt, plus veteran soph guards J. Smith, J. Winters and J. LaMont. Count six frosh, five sophs. Long winter for Span?

Hell of an observation there JDEX!. #3, 4 and 5 scorers from last year (Winters, Evans and Manning) all no shows for 2010-2011 plus the #7 and 8 scorers from last year (Lamont and Smith) AWOL also. I knew Spanbauer was tough but ...WOW!

BENGALS open SUNYAC play, at home, vs. Cortland on the 3rd of December. I'm gonna reserve comment on "Dusty" (started his SUNYAC career in a BENGALS uniform vs SUNY BINGHAMTON in 2008 then quit team after that game) and the Dragons till after December 3rd.

Enjoy the sun!!!

Bengalsrule,
Think you misread jdex's post. Jesse Winter, Jeff LaMont, and Jeremy Smith are all playing for Cortland this year. Losing probable starters Ron Evans and Brian Manning, along with 6'7" Chris Milke will definitely hurt the Red Dragons chances though. As jdex mentioned backcourt seems solid but Spanbauer will need immediate help from those big Freshman recruits to avoid a losing season in the YAC.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 14, 2010, 12:46:43 PM

Thanx, Magic, for setting Bengalman straight. Yes, initial look doesn't appear good, but not all hands jumped ship. Geez, this crew could resemble last winter's Bport runts .......if only the ability and results could match that bunch!
Dragons open with Elmira, then in NYU tourney
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2010, 04:28:55 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 14, 2010, 12:46:43 PM

Thanx, Magic, for setting Bengalman straight. Yes, initial look doesn't appear good, but not all hands jumped ship. Geez, this crew could resemble last winter's Bport runts .......if only the ability and results could match that bunch!
Dragons open with Elmira, then in NYU tourney

I thought of the Brockport analogy as well when I was posting my reply early this morning. Something tells me that Spanbauer will work those big frosh into the rotation rather quickly though. He certainly brought a bunch of them in this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2010, 11:19:16 AM

Tipping tonight ....Potsdam in Bear County vs. Utica College, Plattsburgh bound for Lyndon St. (Vt)

Tuesday sends Buffalo St. to D'Youville, Cortland to Elmira. Fredonia home vs. Penn St.-Behrend

Wednesday finds Geneseo hosting Medaille, New Paltz greeting Mt. St. Mary

Friday tourneys at Oswego (Lakers vs. York, Brockport vs. Keystone Pa), Dickinson (Oneonta vs. Naz), Buff St. (Bengals vs. Point Park), Potsdam (Bears vs. St. Joe Vt), Hartwick (Geneseo vs. Mt. St. Mary), Hamilton (NP vs. Lehman), Manhattanville (Pburgh vs. W. Conn)

Corts and Freds have tourney starts Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2010, 09:07:09 PM
Potsdam down 27-21 to Utica at the half. Bears have cut it to 3 at 34-31 with 15:35 remaining to play.

Bears have tied it up at 40-40 with 12:28 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2010, 09:09:29 PM
Plattsburgh State hits the century mark as they open up with a 100-81 win over Lyndon St on the road.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2010, 09:18:40 PM
Potsdam opens up a 45-40 lead over Utica as the Bears go on a 14-3 run with 10:47 left to play.

Utica comes back to regain the lead at 49-48 and after a brief back and forth goes on top for good at 53-51. Pioneers stretch advantage back up to 7 at 59-52 but Bears make final run to get it down to 2 pts at 61-59 with 45 seconds to go. Utica misses with 11 ticks left but Pioneers grab the rebound and Bears are forced to foul with 7 seconds remaining. Will Abrams hits 1 of 2 and Potsdam comes down and misses a 3 pt attempt to send it into overtime, and lose 62-59. Ben Walker, Eddie Cross and Brad Drysdale all had 10 points each for Potsdam. Curtis Pierce added 9 pts and 13 rebounds. Will Abrams and James Patterson led the Pioneers with 16 points each. Kevin Johnson also hit double figures with 10.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2010, 11:44:50 PM
Plattsburgh State finally got untracked with 15 minutes left to play and Chris Ruiz had 23 of his game high 29 points in the 2nd half to lead the Cardinals over the stubborn Hornets of Lyndon State, 100-81. The Vermont team held a 40-39 halftime lead and were still up 50-49 with 15:31 left in the game but the combination of Ruiz, Errol Daniyan with 24 pts, and Steve Thomas with 17 lifted Plattsburgh to their season opening win. Josh Bruno with 11 and R. J. Ponesse with 10 were also in double figures for the Cards. Both Ruiz and Daniyan had double-doubles as Ruiz also led the Cardinals with 11 rebounds and Daniyan added 10 boards.

Plattsburgh will now face an early season test as they travel to Purchase N.Y. for the Manhattenville Castle Classic Tournament to take on the Western Connecticut Colonials in a 1st round game on Friday Nov. 19th at 6 PM. The Colonials opened up their season tonight as well with a solid 98-67 victory over SUNY-Cobleskill. The Colonials are picked by many to win the Little East Conference this year and did receive some support in the ORV category of D3hoops preseason Top 25 poll. The winner of the Plattsburgh St./Western Conn. game will take on the winner of the Manhattenville/Wheelock game on Saturday at 5 PM. My guess is that will be Manhattenville.          
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2010, 09:51:29 PM

Cortland pounces on Elmira 71-54 .....impressively on road. Got good look via web video.  Looks like Span kind of team ....good hands, spunky, certainly not big .....will run .....does well in sets ......team minded .... defensively sound .... Breaks 22-all tie for 28-22 lead at the half. Shoots bigtime in final half and pulls away early. J. Smith 16 pts(7x15fg, 2x6 3s); 6-6 fr K. McMahon 16 pts(8x10fg, 7 reb); J. Winter 13 pts(5x11fg, 3x5 3s), 5 assts; D. Marshall 12 pts. McMahon hails from Hoosick Falls. Fr M. Kearney at 6-5, 210 starts. Also contributing is 5-11 fr I. Walcott from Queens
Red Dragons 29x61fg, 9x21 3s
Veteran Elmirans 21x57fg and 37-35 reb edge. B. DiPiazzo 19 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2010, 10:31:27 PM

Buffalo St. 87, D'Youville 59

Penn St.-Behrend 60, Fredonia 47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2010, 11:47:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 14, 2010, 04:05:35 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 14, 2010, 01:46:05 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 13, 2010, 11:25:34 AM


Bengalsrule,
Think you misread jdex's post. Jesse Winter, Jeff LaMont, and Jeremy Smith are all playing for Cortland this year. Losing probable starters Ron Evans and Brian Manning, along with 6'7" Chris Milke will definitely hurt the Red Dragons chances though. 

OOPS :-[  Probably wishful thinking on my part. Thanks Magic!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2010, 05:00:55 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 14, 2010, 04:28:55 PM

Something tells me that Spanbauer will work those big frosh into the rotation rather quickly though. He certainly brought a bunch of them in this year.


Quote from: jdex on November 16, 2010, 09:51:29 PM

Cortland pounces on Elmira 71-54 .....impressively on road. Got good look via web video.  Looks like Span kind of team ....good hands, spunky, certainly not big .....will run .....does well in sets ......team minded .... defensively sound .... Breaks 22-all tie for 28-22 lead at the half. Shoots bigtime in final half and pulls away early. J. Smith 16 pts(7x15fg, 2x6 3s); 6-6 fr K. McMahon 16 pts(8x10fg, 7 reb); J. Winter 13 pts(5x11fg, 3x5 3s), 5 assts; D. Marshall 12 pts. McMahon hails from Hoosick Falls. Fr M. Kearney at 6-5, 210 starts. Also contributing is 5-11 fr I. Walcott from Queens
Red Dragons 29x61fg, 9x21 3s
Veteran Elmirans 21x57fg and 37-35 reb edge. B. DiPiazzo 19 pts

jdex,
Notice Spanbauer didn't waste any time getting those big frosh recruits into the rotation.
61 freshman minutes. Have to be happy with that and the win. Competition will be getting tougher though. Still a nice start to McMahon's Cortland career. He also had 4 blocks, 2 steals, 1 personal foul and zero turnovers in his 31 minutes. Well done young man.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
  SUNYAC vs. Empire 8 Challenge anyone?! At least 12 contests between the 2 conferences, over the next 2 weeks (not including potentially a half dozen more in the WENDY's Classic once those pairings are announced).

  Right now my tally has it a 1-1  with Potsdam losing to Utica and Cortland crushing Elmira.
This Friday Oneonta takes on Nazarath followed by Oneonta v Elmira on 11/22, Brockport v St. John Fisher on 11/23, Oswego v Ithaca-11/28, Cortland v Ithaca and Fredonia v Elmira-11/30, BUFFALO STATE v Nazarath, Oneonta v Hartwick and Oswego v RIT on-12/7 ( a mini-"SUNYAC E8 challenge" Tuesday) and finishing with Oneonta v Ithaca on 12/11.

  I predict a 8-4 record for SUNYAC over E8!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
Geneseo St. opens with a 69-63 win over visiting Medaille. Mavericks open up 10 pt lead on R. Reed 3 with 5:38 left iin 1st half. Blue Knights cut it to 34-27 on a Matt Curry jumper at the buzzer. Medaille hits the 1st bucket of the 2nd period to extend their lead to 9 but Geneseo goes on a 17-0 run over the next 6 minutes to grab a 44-36 advantage that they never relinquished. Extend lead to 12, at 53-41 and after the Mavericks cut it back to 5 the Blue Knights once again open a double digit lead and coast to the victory. Blue Knights hit their final 16 free throws as they ended up going 25x28 from the line. Ryan Riefenhauser has a double-double of 14 pts (5x9 fg 4x4 ft) and 13 rebounds in 25 minutes. Mike Hoy also had 14 pts. (5x14 fg 0x3 3's 4x4 ft) in 31 mins.  

Mavericks led by Joe Mogavero with 17 pts (7x9 fg, 3x5 ft), Ricky Reed with 14 pts (5x9 fg, 3x6 3's, 1x3 ft) and Ron Malicki with 12 pts (4x10 fg, 0x2 3's 4x4 ft). Mogavero also had 12 rebounds for a double-double and Malicki just missed his as he grabbed 8 rebounds.

Blue Knights travel to Hartwick this Friday to take on Mt. St. Mary's in the opening round of the Tom Greene Tip Off Tournament.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2010, 03:05:49 AM
Barn Burner at New Paltz as the Hawks give up a 17 point lead over visiting Mt. St. Mary's only to have Harris Wichard hit a 3 pointer with 2 seconds left to play to give the Hawks a 91-88 season opening win. Wichard and Shareef Taylor both scored 20 pts to lead the Hawks. Matt Devine added 17 points fo New Paltz. The Hawks will be in action this weekend as they travel to Clinton NY to participate in the Hamilton Tip-Off Tournament. They take on Lehman College at 6 PM on Friday evening. The winner of that game will face the winner of Hamilton/ Pitt-Bradford on Sat at 4 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 18, 2010, 09:45:08 AM
My beloved Eagles open up in the Oswego Tournament this Friday--They finally have some size!! This could make them very dangerous if they still can get all the pressure on their opponents. Coach Dunn and his staff will have the boys ready to go!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2010, 03:01:24 AM
8 SUNYAC teams in action on Friday.


Brockport State      Keystone      4:00 PM  
@ Oswego State
 
  Western Connecticut      Plattsburgh State      6:00 PM  
Manhattanville Tournament @ Purchase, NY
 
  New Paltz State      Lehman      6:00 PM  
@ Hamilton Tip-Off Tournament
 
  Mount St. Mary      Geneseo State      6:00 PM  
Tom Greene Tip-Off @ Hartwick
 
  Oneonta State      Nazareth      6:00 PM  
@ Dickinson
 
  York (N.Y.)  @   Oswego State      8:00 PM  
 
  Potsdam State      St. Joseph (Vt.)      8:00 PM  
@ at Clarkson
 
  Point Park @   Buffalo State      8:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2010, 04:39:25 PM
The game between Plattsburgh St. and Western Connecticut St starting at 6 PM today will have live stats available. Here is the link:

http://www.sidearmstats.com/manhattanville/mbball/index.htm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2010, 07:05:35 PM
Plattsburgh State plays a careless 1st half but still manages to lead Western Connecticut State 33-29 at the break. Cardinals have 17 turnovers but fortunately the Colonials also had 17 turnovers. Plattsburgh's big gun Chris Ruiz who scored 29 pts in Monday's season opener goes 1x7 from the field and has 4 pts, while Western Ct.'s leading scorer Daquan Brooks who has scored 35 and 27 in his 1st 2 games went 0x6 from the field and scored 2 pts from the line. Card's Steve Thomas is only 1x7 from the floor but manages 6x8 from the line to lead Plattsburgh. R.J. Ponesse is a perfect 3x3 from the field and 1x1 from the line to total 7 pts. Errol Daniyan is 3x3 for 6 pts but also has 3 fouls and only played 11 minutes in the 1st half. Cards need to get it together or they'll be playing in the consi at 3 tomorrow instead of the championship at 5.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2010, 08:08:03 PM
Plattsburgh State falls to Western Connecticut State 86-80 I think. Live stats was about as bad as it could be. Had wrong players making baskets which they would change 10 to 15 minutes later. Had players fouling out that would then show up several minutes later making a basket. Had the wrong halftime score. Gave 1 player a 3 pointer and then took it away. Showed fouls being committed when teams were in the double bonus, yet no one goes to the line. Will try and post some stats but hope they aren't screwed up. For all I know Plattsburgh St.  might have won ;D :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2010, 08:39:10 PM

Brockport goes down 67-61 to Keystone, Pa. Eagles trail 37-31 to Giants' 65% opening half fg shooting. Keystone by as many as 12 in second half. Ports within one at 0:41 but don't score again. Eagles 27x33 free throws to stay in the game. Go 15x50 from the field, 4x17 3s. G. Williams 18 pts, 4 stls in 25'. J. Ivy 12 pts, 5pf; K. Green 11 pts, 6 rebs; K. Are 7 rebs; D. Klein 5pf in team-high 31'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2010, 08:54:50 PM

New Paltz topples Lehman 83-67

Geneseo overcomes Mt. St. Mary 81-77, overcoming 76-68 deficit with 11-0 run. J. Drazan 18 pts(5x7fg)

Oneonta tumbles to Nazareth 65-51
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2010, 09:20:56 PM
Plattsburgh State 80 Western Connecticut State 86   

Plattsburgh St. won a lot of games last year on the heroics of Chris Ruiz and Steve Thomas. They were ususally the go to guys during crunch time and will no doubt be the go to guys again this year but tonight wasn't a night that either one will want to remember.  Between the 2 of them they were 7x26 from the field, failed to make a 3 pointer (0x8), and turned the ball over 8 times. I think Thomas had 14 pts and Ruiz scored 8. Cards turned the ball over 27 times but so did Western Ct. Both had an equal number of  rebounds (34) but the Colonials managed a 17-4 run to turn a 41-33 deficit early in the 2nd half into a 5 pt lead at 50-45 with 13:27 left to play. The Colonials steadily increased their advantage until it reached the games largest margin of 12 pts at 72-60 with 6 minutes remaining. Cards closed to within 5, with the ball and a chance to cut it to 2 but of course another turnover and Colonial basket boosted the lead back to 7 with about a minute to play and that was the game. Cardinals 3 bright spots tonight were Errol Daniyan, R.J. Ponesse, and Carl Munnerlyn who all had excellent shooting numbers for the game. Danniyan needed 16 points to reach the 1000 point total for his career and he got it tonight as he led the Cards with 18 markers in 30 minutes. He shot 8x11 from the field, 2x4 from the line and led the Cards in rebounding as well with 8 boards. Ponesse had 16 pts which I think is a carreer high for the big guy and he did it on 7x9 shooting, 2x2 from the line with 0 turnovers in 18 minutes. Munnerlyn also had 16 pts (5x9 fg, 1x4 3's, 5x6 ft) in 32 minutes. The other night the Cards played Lyndon St. and Coach Curle remarked that they (Lyndon St) live and die by the 3. The difference in the game tonight was that Western Ct. lived by the 3 (10x19, 52.6%) and Plattsburgh died by the 3 (2x15, 13.3%) Cardinals will now probably drop out of the Top 25 and will need a nice winning streak and a win in January over Middlebury to climb back into the rankings.        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2010, 11:09:06 PM

Buffalo St. outguns Point Park 97-89 behind J. Simmons 29 pts(11x26fg, 7x16 3s), 4 stls in 37'. J. Mitchell 20 pts (9x11fg), 6 rebs; C. Cartwright 19 pts,9 assts; G. Carr 15 pts, 9 rebs. Bengals 44-42 at the half. PP's K. Douse 24 of team's 61 rebs in 28'

New Paltz up 30-28 at half. Lands 33x57fg. M. Devine 24 pts(10x15fg), 12 rebs

Oneonta down 31-20 at half. T. Talbot 20 pts(7x18fg); D. Hahn 14 pts, 14 rebs. Dragons 20x61fg, 0x11 3s. Naz gets 19 pts apiece from D. Waldbillig, P. Scaffidi

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 12:56:50 AM
Oswego State edges York (NY) 64-61 to advance to the championship game of their own tournament against Keystone on Saturday at 6 PM.
Lakers up by 16 in the 1st half settle for a 9 pt lead at the break 34-25. York down 38-29 3 minutes into the 2nd period, goes on a 19-5 run to climb in front 48-43. Lakers use 13-0 spurt to go back on top but back comes York with a 9-0 run to regain the lead 57-56 with 2:52 remaining. Still down 61-60 with 23 seconds left Laker's Chad Burridge is fouled and makes both to give Oswego the lead. Laker's Brian Gebhardt grabs his 3rd steal of the game with 9 ticks left and York fouls Sean Michele who knocks down both free throws. York timeout with 8 seconds left to set up a game tying 3 that misses. Chris Gilkes with a double double of 12 pts and 10 rebounds. Burridge with 11 pts, 3 blocks and 4 steals. Jose Uribe and Kevin Kucel both added 10 pts.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2010, 01:05:42 AM
  BENGALS pull out a solid win over Point Park College - a NAIA Div 2 school. Point Park was led by 2 Div 1 transfers. Jimmy Sherwood ( began his career as a member of the Duquesne Dukes - 3 seasons) led the Pioneers with 26 pts. He was closely followed by Kris Douse ( began college career as a member of the Nebraska Cornhuskers team in 2007-2008 and then transfered to Delaware State for 2 seasons) who chipped in 13 pts and 24 rebounds.

 However the BENGALS proved too much for the visitors from Pittsburgh Pa. Jake Simmons (SUNYAC 2009-2010 "Rookie of the year") continued his torrid shooting streak with 29 pts (7 treys). He had 8 treys Tuesday night againest D'Youville college. Backcourt mate Chris Cartwright added 19 points, 5 rebounds and 9 assists. Soph- Justin Mitchell added 20 points/6 boards in just 21 minutes of work and lone Senior Glenroy Carr added 15 pts and 9 boards.

 Whats really scary is that T. O. Jackson, the BENGALS leading rebounder from 09-10 at 8.1 and 2nd leading scorer at 11.9 has not stepped foot on the court this season due to medical reasons. Mitchell (averaging 13 pt  and 6.5 boards per game in 2 wins) and Junior Ahmed Nagaya (avg 6 boards per ), have done a great job filling in for Jackson.

 I can't wait to see what the BENGALS will look like when he comes back. Hopefully before SUNYAC play begins in December!

 BENGALS  next play Niagara (Ontario) Sunday in the Championship game of their Cole's Tourney
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 01:32:15 AM
Potsdam State gets their 1st win of the year as they defeat NAIA II St. Joseph's (Vt.) 74-59 at Clarkson in the North Country Invitational.  Anthony Williams came off the bench to lead the Bears with a double double of 16 pts and 12 rebounds. Josh Lambert added 12 points also off the bench.

Potsdam will now take on crosstown rival Clarkson who cruised to a 103-62 win over NAIA II SUNY-Canton. The game is slated to start at 3 PM this afternoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 03:22:44 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 19, 2010, 08:54:50 PM

Geneseo overcomes Mt. St. Mary 81-77, overcoming 76-68 deficit with 11-0 run. J. Drazan 18 pts(5x7fg)

Mt. St. Mary has probably had enough of the SUNYAC what with that 3 pointer at the buzzer by New Paltz on Wednesday to beat them 91-88 and then the big Geneseo 13-1 run to end the game last night after being down by 8 with only 2:49 left to play.

Blue Knights got nice games from freshman starter 6'4" Jordan Jones with 12 pts, 4 boards, 2 steals and a block in team high 29 minutes. Also frosh Connon Fedge, 6'3" guard came off the bench to score 12 points on 5x6 fg, 2x3 ft and 5 rebounds in 16 minutes.

Blue Knights face host Hartwick for the championship of the Tom Greene Tip Off Tournament at 4 PM this afternoon. Hartwick whipped St. Joseph's (Brkln) 102-60 draining 20 3 pointers (a new school record) in the process.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 04:16:09 AM
SUNYAC was 5-3 in  Friday's games, but only 3-3 in regional contests. Buffalo St. and Potsdam St. wins were not against a regional opponent. We need to win these out of conference in-region games.

Today's contests: All are in region games except Plattsburgh vs Wheelock

Plattsburgh St vs Wheelock at Manhattenville  3 PM consi

Brockport St vs York (NY)  at Oswego St.  4 PM consi

Oneonta St. vs Messiah at Dickinson  1:30  consi

Potsdam  vs Clarkson  at Clarkson 3 PM Championship

Oswego St  vs Keystone at Oswego St.  6 PM Championship

New Paltz St vs Hamilton at Hamilton  4 PM  Championship

Geneseo St vs Hartwick at Hartwick   4 PM  Championship

Looks like it could be another series of close games. I think it might end up 4-3 in favor of the SUNYAC. 5-2 is possible. Think Plattsburgh, Brockport, and New Paltz will win. Geneseo and Oswego are possible with Potsdam and Oneonta having troubles. Love to be wrong about the Bears and Red Dragons though.   






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2010, 11:00:36 AM
Gooooooo SUNYAC!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2010, 11:14:14 AM

Also today ......Cortland opens vs. Emmanuel of Boston in NYU tourney at 3. Host Violets vs. Moravian at 1. Play concludes Sunday

Fredonia begins vs. Catholic, DC in Allegheny Pa. tourney at 6. Hosts vs. Pitt-Greensburg at 8. Finals Sunday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 03:49:59 PM
Plattsburgh St. and Wheelock in a close game as Wheelock goes into the break up 35-33.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2010, 04:57:43 PM

Cortland pulls away for 74-63 downing of Emmanuel of Boston in first round NYU tourney test. Dragons, up 35-32 midway, faces NYU in Sunday matinee final. NYU over Moravian 84-53. CState gets 18 pts(7x13fg) from J. Winter who adds 3 assts in 28' stint. D. Marshall 14 pts(4x8fg, 2x3 3s); H. Hefele 11 pts in 16'; J. Smith 10 pts; fr M. Kearney 8 rebs, 6 pts, 2 stls in 36'. Hit 26x55 fg, 3x9 3s, 19x25 ft. Tight scrap till Corts begin daylight run halfway into final period
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
Plattsburgh State prevails over Wheelock as they pull out an 86-69 victory.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2010, 05:22:57 PM

Brockport loses 77-57 to York which uses 18-7 run to overcome 40-38 Eagles edge. York up 30-26 at half. K. Green 15 pts., 9 rebs for Ports. York 53-28 board margin

Oneonta slips 56-48 to Messiah. B. Hooks 12 pts, Hahn 12 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 06:14:54 PM
After 5 ties and 6 lead changes Plattsburgh State finally grabs the lead for good at 64-62 on their 7th try with 6:16 left to play in the game.  Cardinals finish game on a 27-7 run to put away the Wildcats 86-69. Cards 4 All-Conference performers from last year finally get untracked and all have double digit games.
Steve Thomas leads the way with 29 pts (10x16 fg, 6x9 3's, 3x5 ft) in 31 minutes. Thomas just missed a double double as he led the team with 9 rebounds as well. Chris Ruiz was close behind with 22 pts (9x20 fg, 3x11 3's 1x1 ft) 4 rebounds and 5 assists in 34 min. Errol Daniyan, fresh off his entry into the Cardinals 1000 pt club dropped in 16 pts (7x9 fg, 2x2 ft) and tied Thomas with 9 boards in 38 mins.. Errol also moved into 12th place on the Cardinal's all time scoring list. Carl Munnerlyn continued his hot shooting for Plattsburgh as he scored 15 pts (5x8 fg, 3x6 3's, 2x3 ft), grabbed 5 rebounds and had 3 assists in 30 mins. Ketema Brooks dished out a game high 9 assists in 25 mins. Last night Thomas and Ruiz couldn't buy a 3 pointer, while this afternoon they has 9 between them. Cards won the battle of the boards 34-28 and only committed 10 turnovers in the game after a 27 TO game last night.

Plattsburgh improves to 2-1 and is next in action when they host Clarkson College on Tuesday Nov. 23rd at 8 PM.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2010, 07:57:41 PM

New Paltz slips by Hamilton 88-84 for the Hawks' first title of any kind since 1998-99 ECAC crown. And NP ended Hamilton's six year tourney reign. S. Taylor mvp and joins so M. Devine on all-tourney squad. Jr Taylor 23 pts(11x15fg), 7 rebs, 3 assts; Devine 17 pts(7x11fg); jr H. Wichard 13 pts, 7 rebs; fr D. Nardiello 12 pts; jr J. Wallace 10 pts. Up 48-40 at half and extend before Continentals within 82-79 late. Clutch free throwing prevails

Geneseo crowned with 83-69 stopping of Hartwick. MVP M. Hoy with 18 pts(7x15fg, 2x4 3s), 5 assts. R. Riefenhauser 16 pts(7x10fg), 11 rebs; J. Jones 13 pts; all tourney J. Drazan 11 pts

Potsdam bows to unbeaten Clarkson 67-60. Bears make late run from 12 down to three. Get 16 pts in 24' from fr R. Duquette. C. Pierce 12 pts, 9 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
Oswego State denied home championship as they drop a close one to visiting Keystone 76-72.

11 ties and 11 lead changes in a hotly contested 1st half that ends in a 41-41 draw. Keystone opens the 2nd period with a 3 pointer but Lakers reel off a 9-1 run to go up 50-45, 3minutes into the half. The Giants go on a 9-0 run of their own to take a 54-50 lead and are never headed again. Giants extend to largest lead of 8 on several ocassions but can't put Oswego away. Lakers pull within 2,  3 times and finally tie it up at 72 with 56 seconds to go. Giants hit a jumper with 28 ticks left and the Lakers come down and misfire with 16 seconds left. Keystone gets a layup with 11 seconds left and Oswego misses again and that's your ballgame.

Chad Burridge had a big night for Oswego as he led all scorers with 25 pts (9x16 fg, 0x1 3's, 7x7 ft) in 35 mins.. Chris Gilkes added 15 pts (6x8 fg, 0x1 3's 3x6 ft) 26 mins and Connor Monaghan chipped in with 10 (4x8 fg, 2x4 3's).

Oswego is off until Sunday Nov. 28th when they travel to Ithaca for a 4 PM start. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2010, 09:58:28 PM
Fredonia gets handled by Catholic this evening 71-45. Blue Devils stay close in 1st half only down 28-25 at the break but it turns ugly fast, as Catholic opens the 2nd with a 12-0 spurt to make it 40-25 after 5 minutes of the period. Freds cut it to single digits on a triple by Joe Monahan with 10:52 left and then the Cardinals put them away with a 25-4 run to open up a 30 pt advantage. Kevin Mitchell and Adam Smith with 10 points apiece led the Blue Devils who fall to 0-2.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2010, 12:49:49 AM
Nine SUNYAC teams were in action on Saturday (only Buff St. had the day off) and we only managed to go 4-5. Cortland, Geneseo, New Paltz, and Plattsburgh had the wins but Plattsburgh's win was not in region. Brockport, Oneonta, Potsdam, Oswego, and Fredonia suffered losses, with the Blue Devil loss to Catholic (from Washington DC) being an out of region loss. So our regional record today was 3 wins and 4 losses.  That gives us a 2 day regional record  of 6-7. I'll have to check out how SUNYAC teams did between Nov. 15th and 18th to update our conference regional record. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2010, 12:49:49 AM
I'll have to check out how SUNYAC teams did between Nov. 15th and 18th to update our conference regional record. 

Put this in the category of "the only stupid question is 1 you don't ask"... :(

   Magic ... how does the "regional record" impact on SUNYAC? Is it more bids into the NCAA's?? How does 1 find out/determine what is "in region" vs "out of region"???

Thanks for your answers in advance!

P.s. After 5 p.m. today SUNYAC should  be 5 and 5 - Sat/Sun.  BENGALS should beat Niagara (Ont) easily!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2010, 04:15:15 PM

Cortland up 27-17 over NYU  at the half in NYU tourney climax ..................and the the lights went out, literally. Teams waiting in darkness for second half ............to be continued ........methinks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2010, 05:24:56 PM

Cortland sees NYU come to life to defeat the Red Dragons 70-61. Passive early, NYU jacks up offense with sharp shooting and size edge inside. Hosts 1x15 from beyond the arc in opening period, 7x9 afterward. Still two point game with 2:30 to go

Dragons J. Smith 19 pts(8x19f, 2x5 3s), D. Marshall 15 pts; J. Winter 11 pts; K. McMahon 9 rebs. CState 24x63fg, 8x28 3s, outboarded 39-33, but just 7 turnovers

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2010, 08:42:32 PM
Fredonia loses to Pitt-Greenburg 62-60 in the consolation game of the Allegheny Tip Off Tournament.

Buffalo St wins their exhibition game against Niagara (Ontario) 86-72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 21, 2010, 09:08:23 PM
Bears still yet to field a full squad.  A Williams and J. Lambert missed Utica game due to various ailments, and 6-5 transfer Brad Drysdale missed the North Country Tournament.  When everyone is healthy, Bears go ten deep with experience and athleticism.

Narrow losses suggest Bears will still be a factor when the SUNYAC starts, as they have a lot of veterans returning and significant size added in 6-5 wide body Duquette, 6-5 athlete Drysdale, and 6-7 first year Colin Peterson.

SUNYAC looks to be wide open this year, I think any team can beat any other team on a given night. and road wins in conference should be the decider.

Plattsburgh loss to W. Conn was a puzzler, as the Cards were expected to be among elite D3 squads in early going,  Really surprised that they blew a working 2nd Half lead.   Perhaps incentive of W.Conn Coaches 500th career win offset talent differential.

Burgh bench was a non-factor, and you won't win in the 'yac if your starters have to do all the scoring.  Ruiz also disappeared, and as a senior AA candidate that can't happen too often.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2010, 03:08:24 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2010, 12:49:49 AM
I'll have to check out how SUNYAC teams did between Nov. 15th and 18th to update our conference regional record.  

Put this in the category of "the only stupid question is 1 you don't ask"... :(

  Magic ... how does the "regional record" impact on SUNYAC? Is it more bids into the NCAA's?? How does 1 find out/determine what is "in region" vs "out of region"???

Thanks for your answers in advance!

P.s. After 5 p.m. today SUNYAC should  be 5 and 5 - Sat/Sun.  BENGALS should beat Niagara (Ont) easily!

Bengalsrule,
Was going to post a link to explain what determines a regional game but since D3hoops has changed their front page to the new look the link isn't working. So here goes.
In order to even be considered as a regional game an opponent has to be a member of NCAA Division III. Any games against NAIA teams, NCCAA or D1 or D2 teams do not count.
A game is considered a regional game if the opponent is from your conference. If you play an out of conference opponent there are several ways it is considered to be an in region game:

1. If the opponent is from the same geographical region. In our case we are the East region. Every team in the East region is from New York State with the exception of Stevens which is in New Jersey. When Stevens joined the E8 several years ago they were reclassified and placed in the East region. So any teams from the East region that play each other would be a regional game. Not every New York State team is in the East region however, as a number of the downstate teams in or near NY City and on Long Island are in the Atlantic region. Manhattenville is the only NY State team that is not in the East or Atlantic region as they have been placed in the Middle Atlantic region because of their conference affiliation (MACF) much like Stevens has been placed in the East region.

2. If the teams are within 200 miles of each other according to the NCAA mileage chart. Example: Plattsburgh in the East region plays Middlebury in the Northeast region which is 79 miles away. This is a regional game. If Plattsburgh traveled to Atlantic region team, William Paterson, in Wayne New Jersey it would not be a regional game as the distance between the schools is 291 miles. If Oneonta St. went to play Willie Pat it would be a regional game because the distance between the 2 is only 154 miles. Here is a link to the NCAA mileage chart which will give you the distance between any 2 schools. Put it in your favorites file for future use:

https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles  

3. If the opponent is from the same NCAA administrative region. In addition to a team being in a geographic region, all teams are also in an administrative region that has been determined by the NCAA. We are in administrative region 2 which consists of New York and Pennsylvania. So it doesn't matter how far away the opponent is as long as they are in NY or Pennslyvania. Plattsburgh can play a team in southwestern Pennslyvania that might be 500 miles away and it would be considered a regional game, but a game in Massachusetts only 215 miles away would not be considered a regional game. Last week Plattsburgh played Western Connecticut St. and Wheelock at a tournament in Purchase NY at Manhattenville College. It doesn't matter where the game was played, only where the schools are located. Western Connecticut is located in Danbury Ct. which is 274 miles from Plattsburgh and in the Northeast region. This is not a regional game for Plattsburgh. Wheelock College also from the Northeast region is in Boston Mass. and is 298 miles from Plattsburgh. This is also not a regional game. Manhattenville is further away from Plattsburgh than either of these 2 schools (302 miles) and is in the Middle Atlantic region, but because Manhattenville is in the same administrative region (region 2, NY and Pennslyvania) it would be considered a regional game if we had played them. (Which we should have if we hadn't missed so damn many threes against Western CT.)  In looking at the team page that D3hoops has set up for Plattsburgh I notice they are showing Wheelock as an out of region game but have listed Western Connecticut as a regional game. I believe that is a mistake and I will try and get it corrected. That is especially important because it would give Plattsburgh an in region loss that would put them at a disadvantage when the NCAA compared them to other regional teams.(Note that the NCAA might not be showing this game as a regional game and it may just be a D3hoops error because of all the changes they are doing to their website.) I know last year there were a number of mistakes that the NCAA had made concerning regional records when the regional rankings came out. If you win your conference and get the automatic bid your regional record may determine where you might play your 1st round game. It also may determine whether you might host a Regional or Sectional. Last year St. John Fisher and Plattsburgh were 1st and 2nd when the final regional rankings were announced. Both of these schools hosted an NCAA Regional. 3 years ago Plattsburgh was the only team in the country with an undefeated regional record. We got a 1st round bye, hosted a 2nd round game and after advancing to the sweet 16 got to host the Sectionals. Just because you have the best regional record doesn't guarantee that you may host, but it helps.
If you don't win the automatic bid from your conference then you hope to receive an at large bid or Pool C and that's where your regional record really comes into play. The higher the ranking is in your region, the quicker you are considered for a Pool C bid. To give you an example: Last year in the East region, Plattsburgh, Nazareth, Medaille, St Lawrence and SUNYIT got automatic bids by winning their conference tournaments. St. John Fisher by virtue of the #1 ranking in the East region recieved a Pool C (at large) bid. The 2nd and 3rd place regional teams were Plattsburgh and Medaille and because they had automatic bids the next team in the regional rankings would be a possiblity for another Pool C bid from the East. Oneonta, by virtue of a better regional record, 21-6 was ranked higher than Ithaca 15-7 and when it came time for an East region team to be up for consideration the Red Dragons were the team on the table and not the Bombers. So the East recieved 2 Pool C bids last year. That's probably about average. Remember there are 8 regions and last year there were 19 Pool C (at large) bids. Some regions may only get 1 Pool C bid while others may get 3 or 4. It varies from year to year based on where the good teams are.

Now that I've typed all this I just found a link to the D3hoops page that I wanted to direct you to in the first place so here it is. It will also answer some other questions you may have regarding Pool B bids and provisional members.  

http://www.d3hoops.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament#tournament


Here is a link to the Regional rankings page from D3hoops that showed the different weekly rankings from last season. Regional rankings don't come out until the 1st week of February.
http://www.d3hoops.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament#tournament  

Bengals,
Now that I've answered your questions, the next time you need answers ask thebear or jdex,  I'm tuckered out. ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2010, 04:05:52 AM
Plattsburgh State's Errol Daniyan, a 1st team All Conference performer last year, has been named as the 1st SUNYAC Player of the Week for the 2010-2011 season. It was long overdue and marked the first time in his illustrious career that he has attained this honor.

From the Plattsburgh website:

Plattsburgh State senior forward Errol Daniyan has started the 2010-11 season off on a good note by becoming the 13th Cardinal to score 1,000 career points over the weekend and Monday he has earned the first men's basketball player of the week award from the State University of New York Athletic Conference.

The Coram product (Longwood High School) averaged 19.3 points while shooting 59 percent (23 of 39) and averaged 8.7 boards in three games during the week, as Plattsburgh finished 2-1. He scored 24 points in a 100-81 victory over Lyndon State (Nov. 15) and 18 points in a close 86-80 loss to Western Connecticut on Friday. Daniyan closed out his week with 16 points and nine boards against Wheelock, an 86-69 win on Saturday.

Currently, Daniyan stands 11th on the school's all-time scoring list with 1,018 career points and has his sights set on No. 10 Tom Chapin, who netted 1,040 in the 1960s.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2010, 05:10:00 AM
Oneonta falls to 0-3 as they travel to Utica and drop an 80-72 decision. Up by 14 with 7 minutes left in the half and still up by that figure with 3:20 to go Oneonta allows the Pioneers to cut it to 5 at the break, 40-35. Utica quickly ties the game at the start of the 2nd as teams play through 4 ties and 7 lead changes until Utica forges ahead 57-56 with 11 minutes remaining in the game. Pioneers never headed again and hit their free throws down the stretch for final margin of 8 pts.  Brian Hooks with 20, Derek Hahn with 15, and Troy Talbot with 13 pace the Red Dragons. Utica is led by Jeff Patterson with 17 pts. Jeff Ward has a double-double of 15 pts and 10 boards, while Kevin Johnson adds 14 pts. Utica shot 30x58 from the field and the Red Dragons were only 23x60. Pioneers improve to 3-0 and will be back in action on Dec. 1st when they travel to Hamilton to take on the Continentals. 
Oneonta is now off until December 3rd when they travel to Potsdam State to take on the Bears as both teams open SUNYAC play. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2010, 05:15:26 AM
Nov. 23rd

  Keene State      New Paltz State      7:00 PM LS V  
 
  St. John Fisher      Brockport State      7:00 PM  
 
  Buffalo State      Pitt-Bradford      8:00 PM  
 
  D'Youville      Fredonia State      8:00 PM  
 
  Clarkson      Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 23, 2010, 09:38:20 AM
My beloved Eagles started rather slowly this weekend. I guess it will take a few games to get all the new faces on the same page. I am sure they will be a team to contend with down the road. Coach Dunne and staff will bring them around. Hopefully strong showing vs Fisher tonight. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2010, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 23, 2010, 03:08:24 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2010, 12:49:49 AM
I'll have to check out how SUNYAC teams did between Nov. 15th and 18th to update our conference regional record. 

Put this in the category of "the only stupid question is 1 you don't ask"... :(

   Magic ... how does the "regional record" impact on SUNYAC? Is it more bids into the NCAA's?? How does 1 find out/determine what is "in region" vs "out of region"???

Thanks for your answers in advance!

P.s. After 5 p.m. today SUNYAC should  be 5 and 5 - Sat/Sun.  BENGALS should beat Niagara (Ont) easily!

Bengalsrule,
Was going to post a link to explain what determines a regional game but since D3hoops has changed their front page to the new look the link isn't working. So here goes.
In order to even be considered as a regional game an opponent has to be a member of NCAA Division III. Any games against NAIA teams, NCCAA or D1 or D2 teams do not count.
A game is considered a regional game if the opponent is from your conference. If you play an out of conference opponent there are several ways it is considered to be an in region game:

1. If the opponent is from the same geographical region. In our case we are the East region. Every team in the East region is from New York State with the exception of Stevens which is in New Jersey. When Stevens joined the E8 several years ago they were reclassified and placed in the East region. So any teams from the East region that play each other would be a regional game. Not every New York State team is in the East region however, as a number of the downstate teams in or near NY City and on Long Island are in the Atlantic region. Manhattenville is the only NY State team that is not in the East or Atlantic region as they have been placed in the Middle Atlantic region because of their conference affiliation (MACF) much like Stevens has been placed in the East region.

2. If the teams are within 200 miles of each other according to the NCAA mileage chart. Example: Plattsburgh in the East region plays Middlebury in the Northeast region which is 79 miles away. This is a regional game. If Plattsburgh traveled to Atlantic region team, William Paterson, in Wayne New Jersey it would not be a regional game as the distance between the schools is 291 miles. If Oneonta St. went to play Willie Pat it would be a regional game because the distance between the 2 is only 154 miles. Here is a link to the NCAA mileage chart which will give you the distance between any 2 schools. Put it in your favorites file for future use:

https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles   

3. If the opponent is from the same NCAA administrative region. In addition to a team being in a geographic region, all teams are also in an administrative region that has been determined by the NCAA. We are in administrative region 2 which consists of New York and Pennsylvania. So it doesn't matter how far away the opponent is as long as they are in NY or Pennslyvania. Plattsburgh can play a team in southwestern Pennslyvania that might be 500 miles away and it would be considered a regional game, but a game in Massachusetts only 215 miles away would not be considered a regional game. Last week Plattsburgh played Western Connecticut St. and Wheelock at a tournament in Purchase NY at Manhattenville College. It doesn't matter where the game was played, only where the schools are located. Western Connecticut is located in Danbury Ct. which is 274 miles from Plattsburgh and in the Northeast region. This is not a regional game for Plattsburgh. Wheelock College also from the Northeast region is in Boston Mass. and is 298 miles from Plattsburgh. This is also not a regional game. Manhattenville is further away from Plattsburgh than either of these 2 schools (302 miles) and is in the Middle Atlantic region, but because Manhattenville is in the same administrative region (region 2, NY and Pennslyvania) it would be considered a regional game if we had played them. (Which we should have if we hadn't missed so damn many threes against Western CT.)  In looking at the team page that D3hoops has set up for Plattsburgh I notice they are showing Wheelock as an out of region game but have listed Western Connecticut as a regional game. I believe that is a mistake and I will try and get it corrected. That is especially important because it would give Plattsburgh an in region loss that would put them at a disadvantage when the NCAA compared them to other regional teams.(Note that the NCAA might not be showing this game as a regional game and it may just be a D3hoops error because of all the changes they are doing to their website.) I know last year there were a number of mistakes that the NCAA had made concerning regional records when the regional rankings came out. If you win your conference and get the automatic bid your regional record may determine where you might play your 1st round game. It also may determine whether you might host a Regional or Sectional. Last year St. John Fisher and Plattsburgh were 1st and 2nd when the final regional rankings were announced. Both of these schools hosted an NCAA Regional. 3 years ago Plattsburgh was the only team in the country with an undefeated regional record. We got a 1st round bye, hosted a 2nd round game and after advancing to the sweet 16 got to host the Sectionals. Just because you have the best regional record doesn't guarantee that you may host, but it helps.
If you don't win the automatic bid from your conference then you hope to receive an at large bid or Pool C and that's where your regional record really comes into play. The higher the ranking is in your region, the quicker you are considered for a Pool C bid. To give you an example: Last year in the East region, Plattsburgh, Nazareth, Medaille, St Lawrence and SUNYIT got automatic bids by winning their conference tournaments. St. John Fisher by virtue of the #1 ranking in the East region recieved a Pool C (at large) bid. The 2nd and 3rd place regional teams were Plattsburgh and Medaille and because they had automatic bids the next team in the regional rankings would be a possiblity for another Pool C bid from the East. Oneonta, by virtue of a better regional record, 21-6 was ranked higher than Ithaca 15-7 and when it came time for an East region team to be up for consideration the Red Dragons were the team on the table and not the Bombers. So the East recieved 2 Pool C bids last year. That's probably about average. Remember there are 8 regions and last year there were 19 Pool C (at large) bids. Some regions may only get 1 Pool C bid while others may get 3 or 4. It varies from year to year based on where the good teams are.

Now that I've typed all this I just found a link to the D3hoops page that I wanted to direct you to in the first place so here it is. It will also answer some other questions you may have regarding Pool B bids and provisional members.   

http://www.d3hoops.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament#tournament


Here is a link to the Regional rankings page from D3hoops that showed the different weekly rankings from last season. Regional rankings don't come out until the 1st week of February.
http://www.d3hoops.com/interactive/faq/ncaaTournament#tournament 

Bengals,
Now that I've answered your questions, the next time you need answers ask thebear or jdex,  I'm tuckered out. ;) :D ;D
I can't thank you enough Magic. Hopefully on 1/22 I can thank you in person! I gotta believe this helped a few other folks too!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2010, 09:00:24 PM
Plattsburgh St. improves to 3-1 with a 75-70 win over visiting Clarkson College. Detail to follow
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
New Paltz loses for the first time as visiting Keene State grounds the Hawks 91-75.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 23, 2010, 11:14:35 PM

And ...

Buffalo State over Pitt-Bradford 94-87

Brockport bows to St. John Fisher 80-75 after leading 45-37 at half and by 12 with 14:43 left. Fisher knots at 64 at 7:30. Port within 77-75 at 0:37 before Fisher ft's clinch. Eagles K. Green 19 pts; G. Williams 10 pts; D. Klein 11 pts; fr J. Ivy 11 pts

Fredonia fells D'Youville 66-48
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 23, 2010, 11:30:09 PM
 
Buffalo State's J. Simmons pours in 27 pts(10x12fg) while G. Carr had 19, C. Cartwright 19, J. Mitchell 13 pts and 9 rebs, and N. Simmons 10 pts and 4 stls. Bengals ahead 38-34 at intermission and build to 11

New Paltz down 53-45 midway and by 18 with 10' left. Pull within seven. H. Wichard 15 pts; N. Taldi 14 pts; S. Taylor 11 pts and foul plagued; T. Sowah 7 pts, 7 rebs. Keene goes to 4-0 in handing Hawks first setback. NP next plays Pburgh on the road

Fredonia cruises behind 24-2 liftoff. Margin 29-10 at the half. C. Fluker 13 pts; K. Mitchell 12 pts; A. Smith 10 pts; L. Smith 7 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2010, 11:36:55 PM
It was great to watch my first live game of the season tonight as Plattsburgh finally had a home game after starting the year with 3 straight road contests. Clarkson's Golden Knights fresh off their winning weekend at the North Country Invitational and sporting a 3-0 record made the trip over from Potsdam. Cardinal Coach Tom Curle starting his 8th season at Plattsburgh St. kept his perfect record in home openers intact as he won for the 8th straight year.

Plattsburgh fell behind early as Clarkson hit 4 three pointers in their 1st 8 field goal attempts and the Knights opened up a 15-7 lead. Another Clarkson 3 pointer maintained that 8 pt lead at 20-12 with 11:11 left in the half. Cardinals woke up and went on a 10-0 run that gave them a lead that they extended to 5 as Steve Thomas hit a jumper with 2 seconds remaining to give the Cardinals a 38-33 advantage at the half. Cardinals come out of the break and extend the lead to 8 with a Carl Munnerlyn triple but it would be the only basket Plattsburgh would get in a 6 and a half minute stretch. Clarkson down 2 at 41-39 manages the old 5 pt. play as Rey Jefferson buries a trey, is fouled in the act, goes to the line, misses the free throw but Golden Knights'  Jonathan Hood is there to slam it down for 2 more and a 44-41 Clarkson lead. Shortly after Cards Thomas nails back to back 3 pointers in a 34 second span to give the Cardinals a 5 point lead with 10:55 to go and they  never trail again. Lead extended to 10 on several occasions but Knights refuse to fold and 4 Plattsburgh turnovers in the final 2 minutes keeps it close until the final buzzer.
Cardinals are led by Errol Daniyan, as the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week had another double-double of 18 pts (8x10 fg, 2x5 ft) and 17 rebounds. Daniyan now moves into sole possession of 10th place on Plattsburgh's all time scoring list with 1036 pts and 10th place on the Cardinal's career rebounding list with 572 boards. Steve Thomas also scored 18 points tonight (7x11 fg, 3x5 3's, 1x5 ft) and had 6 rebounds. Thomas had some dazzling drives to the hoop tonight as he used his athleticism and quickness to just blow by the defender and get to the rim. Chris Ruiz with 13 pts (4x14 fg, 1x6 3's, 4x6 ft, 7 reb, 5 assists, in 37 mins.) still hasn't found the shooting touch that he's known for but his all around game is still hard to beat. Carl Munnerlyn also added 13 pts (4x9 fg, 4x7 3's, 1x1 ft) for the Cards. As a team Plattsburgh shot 28x59 from the field and 8x18 from behind the arc. Free throws were the weak point at 11x21. Turnovers, with 19 tonight remain too high as they need to take care of the ball better. They outrebounded Clarkson 43-32 and had 36 points in the paint to omly 18 for the Knights.

Clarkson placed 3 players in double figures led by Jonathan Hood who was the game's high scorer with 20 points. (7x13 fg, 6x9 ft, 8 reb, 3 steals, in 31 min) Felix Llanos was close behind with 19 pts (6x15 fg, 3x9 3's, 4x5 ft, in 28 min) and Rey Jefferson chipped in with 17 pts (7x13 fg, 3x4 3's, 0x1 ft, in 34 min) Knights shot well in the 1st half but struggled some in the 2nd. They finished with 26x61 fg, 8x20 3's, 10x16 ft, with 17 turnovers.
Game got a little sloppy at times but hey it's early and it was great to see an actual game. College wasn't in session so the attendance was only 272 which was disappointing for your home opener.

Plattsburgh is off until next Tuesday when they travel to Canton to take on North Country rival St. Lawrence. Last year these 2 teams played a great game in Plattsburgh so I expect more of the same next week. Already working on plans to try and make the game. Cards are home again on Friday Dec. 3rd to open defense of their SUNYAC crown against New Paltz, who once again looks to be a contender for that crown. They did suffer their 1st loss tonight though which I would have preferred didn't happen until Dec. 3rd ;D


           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Check out my post on the Liberty League board about the longest game in Division III history that took place last night between Skidmore and Southern Vermont. They basically decided to play a double-header as it took 75 minutes to decide this SEVEN OVERTIME marathon in favor of the Thoroughbreds 128-123. Score at the end of regulation was 59-59. When was the last time 2 teams each scored more points in overtime than they did in regulation? :o :D  Previous record in D3 was a 5 OT game. Both D1 and D2 have also had 7 OT games.

Here's a link to an ESPN story on the game;

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5846042&categoryid=2459792
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
Oswego over Ithaca at the half 46-35. The Lakers were up 34-33 with 4 minutes remaining and go on a 12-2 spurt to close out the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2010, 07:15:25 PM
Copy of a post I put on the E8 board.

In a mild upset Ithaca loses to visiting Oswego State 95-83. I thought these 2 teams were evenly matched but that the Bombers would prevail on their home court. Oswego  spurt at the end of the 1st half put the Lakers up by 11 at 46-35. Bombers would get it to single digits on numerous occasions even cutting it to 3 a couple of times but Oswego would always build it back up to 10 or 11 pts. The Lakers grabbed their biggest lead with 6:17 remaining at 76-61, only to have Ithaca come fighting back to within 3 once again at 85-82 with 1:15 left. Bombers fouled, Oswego hit both free throws and subsequently went on to hit 10 ft's in a row for your final of 95-83.

Both teams placed 4 players in double figures in the high scoring affair. Oswego's Chad Burridge was the games high scorer with 28 pts and Chad Monaghan was next with 20. Chris Gilkes had 15 and Sean Michele added 11.

Laker outshot the Bombers 49% to 38%, won the battle of the boards 44 to 40, had 12 turnovers to 14 for Ithaca, and 9 steals to 5. Lakers hit 24 of 32 free throws (75%) while Ithaca made 22 of 28 (79%). Oswego shot 7x20 from behind the arc (35%) and the Bombers made 11 of 29 (38%).   

Jordan Marcus led the Bombers with 21 pts and Phil Barera had a double-double of 18 pts and 10 rebounds. Andrie Oztemel added 16 pts and Chris Cruz-Rivas chipped in with 15. Sean Rossi dished out 10 assists.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2010, 05:41:05 PM
Buffalo State's Jake Simmons, last years SUNYAC Rookie of the year, has been named Week #2 - Player of the week. Congrats to the soph from the Rochester School of the ARTS. Currently Jake is the #1 scorer in SUNYAC by nearly 5 pts a game (26.7 vs #2 Burridge-Oswego @ 21.3).

  What is surprising is that last years #4 scorer and #1 thief (SUNYAC leading 59 steals in 25 games) has picked up right where he left off. And he's is shooting better!! 83% from the field in last weeks victory over a scrappy Pitt-Bradford is a slight indication of what kind of shooter Jake is. Jake is currently 2nd in SUNYAC in steals. The fact that he leads the SUNYAC with has many 3 pointers (18) as the next 2 highest SUNYAC players combined (Thomas - Plattsburgh with 10 and any of the 4 players who are tied with 8) is further indication that he may be well on his way to a stellar year.

Combine that with the fact that he is currently ranked 11th in field goal percentage and, after finishing 4th in mins played last season (33.80), he is currently ranked 3rd (34 mins. per), so he is an Iron Man also. I think Chris Ruiz, and others, may have a serious contender for SUNYAC Player of the Year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2010, 02:25:54 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 out today. No East region team makes the cut. Only East teams mentioned are Plattsburgh State which falls from #22 to #26 with 57 points in the Others Receiving Votes category and New York University which is in the 31st spot with 28 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2010, 07:14:22 PM
Nov. 30th schedule: 3 SUNYAC teams in action tonight.

We sure could use a sweep but I don't think that's going to happen.


   Elmira      Fredonia State      7:00 PM 
   
   Ithaca      Cortland State      8:00 PM LS A 
   
   Plattsburgh State      St. Lawrence      8:00 PM 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2010, 09:07:31 PM
Plattsburgh leads St. Lawrence at the half 33-30. Live stats are available here:

http://www.stlawu.edu/athletics/sites/stlawu.edu.athletics/files/results/live/mbball/xlive.htm

Ithaca led Cortland at the break 36-29. Bombers now up 58-45 with 12 minutes remaining in the game. I didn't think the Red Dragons would win this game. Probably a little Cortaca revenge motivation for the Bombers as well. Live stats are available here:

http://www.cortland.edu/athletics/mbasketball/live/xlive.htm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2010, 09:48:17 PM

Cortland beaten at home by Ithaca 84-75 behind monster P. Berara performance. Finishes with 33 pts(16x18fg) and 12 rebs. Has 19 pts in opening half 36-29 IC lead that comes late in the period. This despite 1x18 3s. Dragons ahead 27-26 at four minute mark. Bombers take charge quickly in final half and hike margin to 68-50 at 8:41. Corts rally to single digits in late stages. IC 33x63fg, 6x30 3s but rule inside with 39-27 advantage. J. Marcus 12 pts, S. Rossi 10 pts and 14 assts (bet on it with F. Elia counting), A. Oztemel 10 pts. Cortland gets 23 pts (7x14fg) from D. Marshall thanks to big second half. Adds 2x4 3s, 5 rebs, 5 assts. J. Winter 21 pts(7x17fg). He paces early Cortland respect. Dragons 27x63fg, 6x21 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2010, 09:56:03 PM

Fredonia rules Elmira 59-40, breaking 16-16 tie to seize 28-18 halftime lead. Freds hold 46-25 board domination. B. McKenney 10 pts, 6 rebs; J. Monahan 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2010, 10:01:23 PM
Plattsburgh State holds off a late charge by host St. Lawrence to squeak by the Saints 62-58. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2010, 10:22:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2010, 07:14:22 PM
Nov. 30th schedule: 3 SUNYAC teams in action tonight.

We sure could use a sweep but I don't think that's going to happen.


   Elmira      Fredonia State      7:00 PM 
   
   Ithaca      Cortland State      8:00 PM LS A 
   
   Plattsburgh State      St. Lawrence      8:00 PM 
   



2 out of 3 aint bad!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
Plattsburgh State once again failed to put a team away when they had them on the ropes. The Cardinals went into the break up by 3 thanks to another Steve Thomas 1st half buzzer beater from behind the arc. That ended a 1st period that featured 5 ties and 7 lead changes. Thomas then opened the second half with another 3 ball 11 seconds in, to give the Cards their biggest lead of the game to that point, 36-30. The Cards were up 42-35 with 13:03 to go but the Saints with a 10-3 spurt, aided by 3 consecutive turnovers by the Cardinals, fought back to tie it up at 45 apiece with 8:28 to play. Plattsburgh regains the lead on another Thomas 3 pointer and the Cards are never caught. There were some anxious moments however as the Cardinals forge an 11 pt. lead, 60-49 with 3 mins remaining only to once again commit 3 straight turnovers and allow the Saints to close within 2 at 60-58 on a Kyle Miller 3 pointer with 1:01 left. Plattsburgh with possession, works the clock down to 33 seconds and misses a layup but Thomas grabs the rebound and is fouled. The Saints had only committed 2 fouls up to that point and the foul on Thomas is their 3rd so he doesn't go to the line. St Lawrence has to foul 4 more times and with all the inbound plays the clock is down to 21 seconds when Chris Ruiz goes to the line and makes both ends of the 1 and 1.  SLU comes down, misses, gets the rebound, and turns it over to make the final score of 62-58. Much closer than it should have been and very remniscent of the Clarkson game in Plattsburgh a week ago when turnovers kept the Golden Knights in a game the Cards should have won by double digits.
Plattsburgh had 18 turnovers tonight and while their defensive effort was better than it's been, Coach Curle is not going to be happy with the turnover numbers. That cetainly contributed to their lowest offensive output of the season. It still goes into the win column though, as the Cards improve to 4-1.

Chris Ruiz led 3 Cardinals in double figures with 16 pts(6x13 fg, 2x7 3's, 2x2 ft, (that were huge), 5 assists in 34 mins.) Carl Munnerlyn scored 16 pts 9(4x7 fg, 3x6 3's, 3x5 ft, in 28 mins) and Steve Thomas added 11 pts(3x8 fg, 3x6 3's, 2x2 ft, 6 reb, in 39 min.) Cards were 22x45 (48.9%) from the field, 9x20 3's (45%) and 9x13 (69.2) from the line. Cards won battle of the boards 30-28 but committed 18 turnovers to only 12 for the Saints.

SLU was led by Ralph Temgoua who was the game's high scorer with 23 pts on 11x14 from the field and 1x3 from behind the arc. he just missed a double-double as he also was the game's leading rebounder with 9 boards. Garrett Sharlow was also in double figures with 12 pts. The Saints face another tough matchup this Friday night as Ithaca comes to town for an 8 PM contest. They then host Elmira on Saturday afternoon at 4 PM.

Plattsburgh State next plays at the friendly confines of Memorial Hall as they open up SUNYAC play this weekend hosting New Paltz on Friday night at 8 PM and Oneonta Saturday afternoon at 4 PM. New Paltz is off to a decent start with a 3-1 record, with their only loss to a Keene St. team that brought in several outstanding transfers. Last year the The Cards beat the Hawks in New Paltz only to have the tables turned as New Paltz came into Memorial Hall last January and beat Plattsburgh. The Cardinal did win the rubber match in the 1st round of the conference playoffs in February. Both teams return a lot of veterans so it should be a good matchup. Oneonta lost quite a bit off last year's team and they have started slowly with an 0-3 record but nothing will get a team up like playing the defending champs. These will be the final games of the 1st semester as Plattsburgh is then off until January 4th when they host the 6th ranked MIddlebury Panthers. Hopefully Plattsburgh can move back into the rankings with a weekend sweep and the January 4th game will feature 2 Top 25 teams.    

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2010, 08:00:05 PM
December 1st schedule: 2 SUNYAC teams in the Wendy's Classic.

Brockport vs R.I.T.         at Geneseo           6 PM


Hobart  @ Geneseo            8 PM

Both games will be tough for the YAC teams.  Don't think Geneseo will be able to stay with Hobart. Hopefully Brockport can give us a split.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 01, 2010, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2010, 08:00:05 PM
December 1st schedule: 2 SUNYAC teams in the Wendy's Classic.

Brockport vs R.I.T.         at Geneseo           6 PM


Hobart  @ Geneseo            8 PM

Both games will be tough for the YAC teams.  Don't think Geneseo will be able to stay with Hobart. Hopefully Brockport can give us a split.  

'Port wins by 4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on December 01, 2010, 08:24:22 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2010, 08:00:05 PM
December 1st schedule: 2 SUNYAC teams in the Wendy's Classic.

Brockport vs R.I.T.         at Geneseo           6 PM


Hobart  @ Geneseo            8 PM

Both games will be tough for the YAC teams.  Don't think Geneseo will be able to stay with Hobart. Hopefully Brockport can give us a split.  

'Port wins by 4

Yes, I just spotted that on the scoreboard. Geneseo is up by 2 over Hobart at the half as well, 27-25. Hope the Blue Knights make me regret my Hobart pick.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2010, 10:42:28 PM
Geneseo hangs with Hobart for most of the game as neither team could build more than a 6 pt advantage. Score is still tied at 55 with 2:15 to play when old fashioned 3 pt play by Matt Pebole gives the Statesmen a lead they wouldn't surrender. After a layup by Blue Knights' Mike Hoy cuts it to 1, but Hobart's Mark Bruce buries a 3 to make it 61-57 with 1:18 to go. A Geneseo miss followed by another Hobart basket puts the lead at 6 but the Blue Knights get within 2 with 14 seconds left. They put Hobart on the line and the shooter misses the front end, Geneseo gets the rebound and a chance to tie or win it but turns the ball over with 3 seconds to play. Pebole hits both free throws for the final margin.
Mike Hoy led Geneseo and was the game's high scorer with 19 pts (8x13 fg, 1x3 3's, 2x2 ft) in 30 minutes.
Geneseo loses their 1st game of the year and now stands at 3-1. The Blue Knights will now face off against St. John Fisher on Friday at Hobarts gym at 8 PM. Fisher lost to Rochester tonight 70-56.

Hobart placed 3 guys in double figures led by Matt Pebole with 13. Stefan Thompson and Mark Bruce both added 10 pts. The Statesmen improve to 4-1 on the year.
Hobart will play Rochester on Friday Night at Roberts Wesleyan at 6 PM 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2010, 12:00:27 AM
                                                    Simmons named ECAC Player of the Week

Posted today on the SUNYAC website.....

Buffalo State's Jake Simmons (Rochester/School for the Arts) has been named the Men's Upstate Basketball Player of the Week by the Eastern College Athletic Conference (ECAC) for the week ending November 28th.

(3rd paragraph)
...Simmons leads the SUNYAC through 3 games, averaging 26.7 points-per-contest, and has also hit a leaque best 18 3 pointers. He is also 2nd in the conference, averaging 3.0 steals-per-game

  Less than 4 years ago Jake spent nearly 1 month in the hospital, partially paralized, following a nearly tragic accident. Everyone knows someone who has their rags to riches story, but folks close to the BENGALS program know that there is no 1 in recent BENGAL memory who has endured more than Jake has over the past 5 years.

  Kudo's to this hard working young man!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2010, 05:56:38 PM
SUNYAC opens conference play tonight with 4 games.
   
   Cortland State      Buffalo State      8:00 PM LS 
   
   New Paltz State      Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM 
   
   Oswego State      Fredonia State      8:00 PM 
   
   Oneonta State      Potsdam State      8:00 PM


In the Wendy's Classic tonight Brockport  tries to advance to the finals while Geneseo is trying to advance in the consolation bracket.
   
   Nazareth  vs  Brockport State      8:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic @ Roberts Wesleyan College   
   St. John Fisher  vs  Geneseo State      8:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic @ Geneva, NY 

I think tonight's winners are:

Buffalo St.
Plattsburgh St.
Oswego St.
Potsdam St.
Nazareth (hope I'm wrong)
St. John Fisher (hope I'm wrong


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2010, 10:23:21 PM
Plattsburgh St. tops New Paltz St. 87-73. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
Other scores from tonight:

Buffalo St 83  Cortland St. 74

Oswego St. 71  Fredonia St 48

Oneonta St. 80   Potsdam St 71

Nazareth 57  Brockport St. 47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2010, 10:47:50 PM
Just saw a Geneseo score from the St. John Fisher website. Geneseo comes away with the win 64-61.

Rochester will play Nazareth tomorrow for the Wendy's Championship

Brockport will play Hobart tomorrow for 3rd place

Geneseo will play Roberts Wesleyan for 5th place

St. John Fisher will play R.I.T. for 7th place
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2010, 01:50:31 AM
Plattsburgh State hasn't played a solid game of basketball yet this year. And tonight's contest against New Paltz was no different. The Cardinal's did however manage to get it together for the 1st half as they came out of the gate firing on all cylinders. Led by Errol Daniyan's 8 points the Card's grabbed a 10 pt lead, 15-5 with only 4 minutes gone in the opening stanza. Plattsburgh's Chris Ruiz found his shooting touch going 4x6 with a pair of threes and the team shot 17x32 from the field.(53.1%) They were 5x11 from beyond the arc and 10x12 from the charity stripe. The Cardinal's stretched the lead to 15, 27-12 with 9:20 left in the half, thanks to Josh Bruno who came into the game, promptly proceeded to drain a three, and scored again on a layup 20 seconds later. The lead reached the largest of the half with 1:45 left when Daniyan was clobbered by the Hawks Lamard Herron as he was going up for an easy lay in. An intentional foul was called and the easy going big guy who was visibly angry with the hard foul shook off the hit to make both free throws for a 49-24 Plattsburgh lead. The Hawks did manage to cut it to a 20 pt. deficit when Harris Wichard nailed a 3 and Nick Taldi canned a pair of foul shots to go into the break only down 49-29. Defensively the Cardinals were just as impressive as they held the #1 offense in the conference to 29 points. The Hawks have been averaging 84.2 ppg. They also shut down their top 2 scorers Shareef Taylor and Matt Devine, who are both averaging 17 ppg. They had a combined 3 points in the half. Plattsburgh nearly doubled the Hawks rebound total with a 25 to 13 edge. Turnovers were the only blemish on the Cardinal's 1st half stat sheet as they committed 10 but so did New Paltz.

The second half started like the 1st one as Plattsburgh quickly built their lead to a game high 26 pts at 57-31. But as we've seen so many times at so many levels of play (and what's becoming a routine for this year's Cardinals) is the big lead seems to cause a deterioration in play. The shot selection is noticeably poorer, the extra pass is not made, or a crazy cross court pass that shouldn't be made is, resulting in the break away layup. The "it's my turn to shoot" syndrome is usually factored in there as well. So that 26 point lead, with 16:49 to play in tonight's game is cut to 17 by 13:41. 4 points by Shareef Taylor and 6 points by Harris Wichard, sandwich a Chris Ruiz layup, and the Hawks cut the lead to 8 at 62-54 with 8:52 remaining. Less than a minute later another bucket and 1 by Wichard cut it to 7 but the Cards would turn the switch back on. A Carl Munnerlyn trifecta, followed by an R. J. Ponesse layup on a Steve Thomas feed, plus another Munnerlyn 3 point play off a Ponesse rebound and feed build the Cards lead back to 15 at 72-57 with 6:26 to go. The Hawks answer that with 8 straight points of their own fueled by Matt Devine and trail 72-65 with just over 4 minutes left. That was as close as they would get though as Munnerlyn is fouled shooting a three and drops 2 of 3, Thomas is fouled and makes both his foul shots, then Ketema Brooks steals the ball and drives in to score and Munnerlyn is there for the putback. In 28 seconds the lead is back to 13 and the Cardinals coast to the 87-73 final.

Carl Munnerlyn led Plattsburgh and was the game's high scorer with 23 pts (6x10 fg, 3x4 3's, 8x11 ft, 5 reb, 3 assists, 2 steals in 32 min). Errol Daniyan was nearly perfect shooting the ball tonight as he scored 22pts.(9x10 fg, 4x5 ft, 8 rebounds 32 mins). Chris Ruiz had 18 pts (7x10 fg, 3x4 3's, 4 reb, 4 assists, in 34 min) and Steve Thomas added 9 pts and 7 boards in 33 min. R. J. Ponesse only scored 4 pts but had 7 rebounds 3 assists and a block in 20 minutes of work. On 3 or 4 occassions just his presence made the New Paltz shooters miss some in close shots. Josh Bruno came off the bench to give the Cards a quick lift and ended up with 7 pts and 4 rebounds in 14 mins. Cardinals ended up shooting 28x53 from the field (52.8%), 8x19 from 3 point land (42.1%) and 23x30 from the foul line (76.7%). They had 41 rebounds to 32 for the Hawks but also had more turnovers, 18, than New Paltz who had 14.

New Paltz was led in points and rebounds by 6 foot Harris Wichard who tied Munnerlyn for scoring honors with 23 (8x16 fg, 3x9 3's, 4x5 ft)and had 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals in 34 mins. Nick Taldi was the only other Hawk in double figures with 16. (5x12 fg, 3x7 3's, 3x3 ft in 28 mins). Shareef Taylor and Matt Devine who combine to average 34.3 ppg only managed 13 between them on a combined 4x21 from the field and 0x6 from behind the arc. As a team the Hawks shot 24x68 from the field (35.3%), 7x27 from behind the arc (25.9%) and 18x21 from the line (85.7%)

Oneonta rolls into Plattsburgh tomorrow fresh off their victory over Potsdam tonight. Game time is 4 PM. Cardinals improve to 5-1 and a win tomorrow against the Red Dragons would leave them with a 6-1 mark heading into the semester break and should be good enough to push them back into the D3hoops Top 25 as #22, #24, and #25 all lost games this week.     

New Paltz now stands at 3-2 on the season and travels to Potsdam to try and salvage their trip North. I think the Bears will be in trouble tomorrow afternoon as Taylor and Devine will both look to break loose.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2010, 04:05:46 AM
Saturday's SUNYAC schedule
 
  Cortland State  at  Fredonia State      4:00 PM LS  
 
  New Paltz State  at  Potsdam State      4:00 PM  
 
  Oswego State at   Buffalo State      4:00 PM  
 
  Oneonta State  at  Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM

Geneseo State  vs  Roberts Wesleyan   3:00 PM    
@ Wendy's Classic @ Nazareth  for 5th place

  Brockport State vs  Hobart      3:00 PM  
@Wendy's College Classic @ Roberts Wesleyan College for 3rd place    
   

4-2 with my picks yesterday 3-1 in the YAC  1-1 in Wendy's Classic.

Today's winners could look like this:

Cortland St.
New Paltz St. (Hope I'm wrong)
Buffalo St.
Plattsburgh St.
Geneseo St.
Hobart (Hope I'm wrong)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2010, 01:31:19 PM

Have had personal tragedy  .....will touch base whenever possible .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2010, 02:52:45 PM
jdex,
Sorry to hear that. I was afraid something was wrong as we haven't heard from you in a while.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2010, 06:23:06 PM
Plattsburgh State downs visiting Oneonta State 69-60.

Oswego State defeats host Buffalo State 80-73 in overtime.

Fredonia State wins a double overtime thriller against Cortland 78-73.

Hobart beats Brockport State 69-54 in the 3rd place game of the Wendy's Classic

Geneseo State is a big winner over Roberts Wesleyan 89-60 for 5th place in the Wendy's Classic
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2010, 07:52:09 PM
Potsdam State pins a 2nd straight conference loss on New Paltz State as the Bears wins 77-73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2010, 04:39:49 PM
Plattsburgh State's senior guard Carl Munnerlyn was named the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the period ending Sunday December 5th. Carl averaged 18.0 ppg as Plattsburgh went 3-0 this past week. He scored 14 points against St. Lawrence on Tuesday, poured in 23, a career high, against New Paltz on Friday and again led the Cardinals in scoring with 17 against Oneonta on Saturday. Munnerlyn shot 53.5% (15x28) from the field, 42.9% (6x14) from 3 point land, and 80% (12x15) from the line. He also had 9 assists and 11 rebounds in the 3 games. This was the first time Munnerlyn has won the award.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2010, 04:52:34 PM
Plattsburgh State has moved back into the D3hoops Top 25, checking in at #22, which is where they were placed in the pre-season poll. The Cardinals received 66 points this week. New York University with 29 points and Nazareth with 1 point are the only other East region team mentioned.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2010, 02:09:55 AM
Lots of action Tuesday night for SUNYAC teams.

Brockport St. traveled to Geneseo St. as both teams played their 1st conference game and the Golden Eagles, in a mild upset, come away with a 59-58 victory.

6 out of conference games and the YAC came out on the short end in 4 of them.

Oneonta St loses to visiting Hartwick 68-65

Potsdam St. loses to visiting St. Lawrence 70-48

Buffalo St. travels to Nazareth and gets beat 86--79

Cortland St. travels to Utica and loses 71-64

Oswego St. travels to R.I.T. and uses a strong 2nd half to win 79-61

New Paltz St. travels to Vassar and downs the Brewers 72-39
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 08, 2010, 09:52:41 AM
My Eagles go on the road and win a tight ballgame at Geneseo. Don't let the first semester record fool everyone. The Bport boys will be there at the end of the season. Alot of new faces, finding right rotations, and gaining confidence in each other, will bring the Eagles into contention. Coach Dunne and his staff wll have them rounded into contention(SUNYAC) shape. Go Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2010, 10:54:14 PM
Potsdam traveled to Wilkes-Barre, Pa. to take on Kings College in the 1st round of the PNC/Ramada Inn Classic hosted by the Monarchs and were defeated by a score of 86-72.
The Bears made a game of it throughout the 1st half and were down 36-34 when Kings sank a 3 at the buzzer to go into the break up 39-34. Kings came out of the break with an old fashioned 3 pt play and followed that up with 3 long distance baskets to quickly go up by double digits and Potsdam never threatened after that. The Monarchs largest lead was 24, at 84-60 and the Bears ended the game on a 12-2 spurt to reduce the final margin to 14 pts.
Anthony Williams led Potsdam with 18 points and 13 rebounds. Freshman Rob Duquette had 13 pts. and Eddie Cross had 10. Kevin Conroy of Kings was the game's leading scorer with 23 pts.

Potsdam will now take on Brooklyn College in the consolation game at 1 PM on Saturday.

Kings will play Salisbury in the Championship game on Saturday at 3 PM.

Salisbury is coached by former SUNYAC player and coach Steve Holmes. Steve played his college hoops at Plattsburgh State, was an assistant coach under Jerry Welch at Potsdam State during the golden years, and was the head coach at Geneseo for 6 years before moving to Salisbury. 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2010, 04:20:27 PM
Potsdam loses the consolation game of the Kings College tournament to Brooklyn College 69-57.

Bears fall to 2-6 and are now off until Jan. 4th when they travel to Hobart.

Oneonta falls to Ithaca 94-86. Red Dragons are up 67-63 with 13:30 to play when the Bombers go on a 21-6 run to open up an 11 pt lead, 84-73. Oneonta closed to within 5 but Marcus Jordan hits 5 of 6 free throws to seal the victory.

Oneonta drops to 1-6 and is idle intil Jan. 2nd when they take on Wells at the Washington &  Lee tournament.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2010, 10:20:40 PM
Buffalo St and Elms College played a barnburner in a first round game at the Worchester St. tournament.  Up by 5 with 2:41 left to play in regulation the Bengals fail to hold the lead and miss an opportunity to win it with the last shot in the final 15 seconds. Tied at 77 after regulation, Elms quickly grabs the lead in OT and holds an 86-81 lead with 27 seconds to play. 2 Bengal free throws followed by a Jake Simmons layup with 14 seconds left cut the lead to 1. Buffalo St sends Elms to the line where they make the 1st, miss the 2nd and the Bengals Anthony Hamer scores at the buzzer to send it to double OT, tied at 87. This time the Bengals jump out to a 3 pt lead 91-88 and are never headed. Up 93-92 with a minute to play Buffalo's T. O. Jackson hits a jumper and the Bengals hit 3 of 4 from the line to win it 98-92.
Bengals place 4 guys in double figures led by Chris Cartwright with 20 pts. Jake Simmons had 18 pts, Justin Mitchell had 16 pts, and T.O. Jackson added 15.
Elms Brittain Purcelle led all scorers with 31 pts. Bryant Corcoran added 21 and Daniel Gonzalez chipped in with 18.

Buffalo St will now play Colby-Sawyer on Sunday afternoon in the Championship game at 2 PM. Colby-Sawyer defeated host Worcester St. 75-61. Elms and Worchester St will face off in the consolation game at 12 noon on Sunday. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 11, 2010, 10:20:40 PM
Buffalo St and Elms College played a barnburner in a first round game at the Worchester St. tournament.  Up by 5 with 2:41 left to play in regulation the Bengals fail to hold the lead and miss an opportunity to win it with the last shot in the final 15 seconds. Tied at 77 after regulation, Elms quickly grabs the lead in OT and holds an 86-81 lead with 27 seconds to play. 2 Bengal free throws followed by a Jake Simmons layup with 14 seconds left cut the lead to 1. Buffalo St sends Elms to the line where they make the 1st, miss the 2nd and the Bengals Anthony Hamer scores at the buzzer to send it to double OT, tied at 87. This time the Bengals jump out to a 3 pt lead 91-88 and are never headed. Up 93-92 with a minute to play Buffalo's T. O. Jackson hits a jumper and the Bengals hit 3 of 4 from the line to win it 98-92.
Bengals place 4 guys in double figures led by Chris Cartwright with 20 pts. Jake Simmons had 18 pts, Justin Mitchell had 16 pts, and T.O. Jackson added 15.
Elms Brittain Purcelle led all scorers with 31 pts. Bryant Corcoran added 21 and Daniel Gonzalez chipped in with 18.

Buffalo St will now play Colby-Sawyer on Sunday afternoon in the Championship game at 2 PM. Colby-Sawyer defeated host Worcester St. 75-61. Elms and Worchester St will face off in the consolation game at 12 noon on Sunday. 

Magicman. I was at the game and i must admit...I probably could not have described the game better myself. Except for the following.. that I must add with a tad stronger description.

  With 27 seconds left in the 1st OT, Elms made 2 free throws and went up by 5 pts. It looked grim for the BENGALS. No time outs left and needing to score... get a stop and score again to have a chance. Purcell free throw that put ELMS up by 5, was immediatly followed by a substitution by ELMS. The problem for the Blazers was that the person who was substituted for did not come out of the game until after the ball was thrown in. 6 players on the floor = Technical foul and 2 freethrows by Chris Cartwright (who I might add...CALMLY sank BOTH!!!). Bengals get the ball and Jake Simmons scores with 14 seconds left and now the BENGALS are down by 1 after scoring 4 unanswered in 13 seconds.. Bengals foul Avant who makes the first and misses the second. Anthony Hamer 5'6" a.k.a. "ANT" who had subbed for Norman Simmons ( who injured his wrist) goes coast to coast and puts 1 high over the outstreatched arms of Julio Alverio ( who had 7 blocks in the game). Ties the game with .5 left sending the game into Double OT!

The rest is history!!!!

P.s. Magicman you can get an upclose look at Elms. They play your beloved Cardinals at Plattsburgh on Jan 5th. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2010, 03:25:45 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
P.s. Magicman you can get an upclose look at Elms. They play your beloved Cardinals at Plattsburgh on Jan 5th. ;)

Bengalsrule,
Thanks for the update on the Elms game. Not only do we play Elms on Jan. 5th but we get them the night after we face the 5th ranked Middlebury Panthers. It's that rare Tuesday-Wednesday back to back non-conference opponents matchups. Can't even remember when we've had that kind of scheduling before. And we're getting them after a month's layoff. Last year we lost to these 2 teams but both games were on the road.

Knowing we've got a game with Elms coming up was the reason I followed the Bengals game on Live Stats on Saturday. I must admit I was a little confused because in overtime the Live Stats stopped working with Elms holding that 5 pt lead with seconds to play and I actually thought the game was over. At least 15 minutes went by so I went to the SUNYAC board and started typing up a report of the game. I was just about to post it when I went back to the Live Stats page to check on a statistic and sonofagun, if they don't show the game being tied. When I tried to find out what happened there was no mention of a technical foul, how Buffalo State even got to the foul line, or how they got the ball back for the Jake Simmons layup that made it a 1 point game. All I knew was they made 2 foul shots, Simmons made the layup, Elms made 1 of 2 free throws and Hamer made a layup at the buzzer. They tied it up and double OT was about to start. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but damn glad that I was.

What a break for the Bengals to get the foul shots and possession. The old 6 men on the court penalty. Can't remember if I've ever seen that one called before. :D

Hopefully Buffalo St. can beat Colby-Sawyer this afternoon and win the tournament. Did you stay overnight to take in the Sunday game as well? Good luck and have a safe trip home.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2010, 04:03:58 PM
I think Buffalo State wins the championship of the Worcester State Coaches for Cancer Holiday Tournament against Colby-Sawyer. Lost the video with 23 seconds to go but the Bengals were up 77-72 and shooting foul shots.

Final score was 79-76 for the good guys. Nice job Buffalo St.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
Buffalo State had 3 players in double figures in their win over Colby Sawyer. Jake Simmons scored 20 pts as he hit 6x13 from beyond the arc and was named as the tournaments Most Valuable Player. Chris Cartwright who scored 20 pts yesterday against Elms and had 9 pts, 3 steals, 2 assists,and 3 boards today against Colby-Sawyer was also named to the All Tournament team. Glenroy Carr came off the bench to score 12 pts as did Ahmed Nagaya who added 10 pts.

Bengals move to 6-2 on the year and are off until January 7th when they resume conference play with a trip to New Paltz for an important SUNYAC contest.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2010, 10:43:27 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2010, 03:25:45 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
P.s. Magicman you can get an upclose look at Elms. They play your beloved Cardinals at Plattsburgh on Jan 5th. ;)

Hopefully Buffalo St. can beat Colby-Sawyer this afternoon and win the tournament. Did you stay overnight to take in the Sunday game as well? Good luck and have a safe trip home.   

Definitly stayed overnight (my niece goes to Worcester State so I had some family time) and I was present to see the BENGALS take the crown. I must admit that this was one of the better tournaments I have ever seen.

Banquet Friday night with all 4 teams. Organizers set it up so that each table of 8 had 2 players from each team. Since it was a Coaches vs Cancer tourney the guest speaker was a young cancer survivor and it ended with the entire video replay of Jimmy V"s 1993 ESPY award speech "dont ever give up".
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2010, 04:03:58 PM
Score was 79-76 for the good guys. Nice job Buffalo St.

Great win too!

Thanks Magic!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 13, 2010, 03:00:29 PM
With all but a handful of Non Conference Games played, here's how I see the East shaping up:
These are my top 6 based on early results and projected schedule

Oswego - Team to beat in the 'yac, Quality wins over Ithaca and Buff State.  Burridge may be the best all around player in the region, and Gilkes is a force in the paint.  They have bigs on the bench that could start for most teams in the region.

Naz - Loss to Ithaca hurts, split with Rochester, beat Buff State

Stevens - Will see how they do on the road in Upstate NY

Ithaca - Oswego has a game in hand, PS-Behrend loss is in-region.  Bombers can score, but can they defend?

Hobart - losses to Ithaca & Rochester, beat Geneseo.  Pebole makes them team to beat in LL right now.

Plattsburgh - W.Ct loss is Out of Region, but quality foe. Cards need to beat both Buff St or Oswego on the Road to keep their top spot in the 'yac.  Cards have the talent and the history.

Still in the hunt

NYU (7-0 vs. undistinguished foes), Buff State, Geneseo, Union, Clarkson, Rochester, Hamilton.

Bears alas, are still going through growing pains with young team.








Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 14, 2010, 06:26:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2010, 03:25:45 AM

Bengalsrule,
Thanks for the update on the Elms game. Not only do we play Elms on Jan. 5th but we get them the night after we face the 5th ranked Middlebury Panthers. It's that rare Tuesday-Wednesday back to back non-conference opponents matchups. Can't even remember when we've had that kind of scheduling before. And we're getting them after a month's layoff. Last year we lost to these 2 teams but both games were on the road.   

Here's 1 vote for the Cardinals sweeping the Middlebury/Elms doubleheader! I must admit that the Assistant coach for Elms took great pride in telling me in the hallway (during the Colby-Sawyer vs. Worcester game Sat night) how they beat Plattsburgh last year in the season opener at ELMS. "Payback is a......". Quality wins for the SUNYAC help us all! Go CARDS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2010, 08:48:52 PM
Plattsburgh State moves up 2 spots to #20 in the D3hoops Top 25 Men's Basketball Poll. The Cardinals received 84 points in this weeks poll. New York University with 21 points which put them in 29th place is the only other East region team to receive votes. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2010, 11:56:52 PM
Oswego State improves to 6-1 with a 70-53 defeat of visiting Morrisville State. Lakers opened up an early 22-4 lead and coasted from there. Chad Burridge with 18 pts and 8 rebounds led Oswego. Jose Uribe added 17 pts, 6 boards, 3 assists and 3 blocks. Chris gilkes had 10 pts in 11 minutes on 5x8 shooting. Hayden Ward came off the bench and scored 9 pts, with 7 rebounds in 20 minutes of work.
Oswego is now off until Wednesday January 5th when they host St. Lawrence at 8 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2010, 11:49:15 PM
A new D3hoops Top 25 poll came out this evening and Plattsburgh State slipped 1 spot from 20th place down to #21. The Cardinals did however gain 29 more points than they had last week as they received 113 pts, their highest total of the season so far. Being idle for 31 straight days doesn't help if you're trying to hold your position, and unless teams ranked just above you lose, there's no way you can move up. The first week in January will be an important one for Plattsburgh, and will have a big impact on how the voters view the Cardinals on a national scale. With 4 games in 5 days and the toughest one coming on January 4th against 5th ranked Middlebury(the 1st game after that long 31 day layoff), I hope the Cards can weather this tough stretch of their schedule.






 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
Finally after a 30 day layoff I'll get to see some hoops as #6 Middlebury rolls into Plattsburgh to take on the #22 ranked Cardinals at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall at 8 PM tonight. For anyone wishing to follow the action online there will be live stats available at this link:

http://www.sidearmstats.com/plattsburgh/mbball/index.htm 

Other SUNYAC teams in action tonight:

Brockport State is hosting St. Lawrence at 7 PM

Potsdam State travels down to Hobart to take on the Statesmen at 8 PM


Last night Geneseo traveled to D'Youville and improved to 6-2 with a 64-61 win over the Spartans. The Blue Knights led from start to finish and had their biggest lead, 42-31, as a 3 pointer at the buzzer by Geneseo's Thomas Decker ended the 1st half. Spartans quickly closed the gap in the 2nd period and got it down to 1 pt with 1:37 to play but missed a free throw that would have tied the score. Geneseo then went to the line with just seconds remaining and converted a pair for the final 3 point margin. Ryan Riefenhauser led the Blue Knights with a double-double of 12 points and 13 rebounds. Mike Hoy added 10 points for Geneseo. D'Youville's Patrick Coyle led the Spartans with a TRIPLE-double of 13 points, 10 rebounds, and 12 blocked shots.
Geneseo is off until this weekend when they travel north to take on Plattsburgh on Friday and Potsdam on Saturday.

Oneonta State was also in action last night as they dropped a non-conference game to a pretty good Washington and Lee team from the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, 75-62. Oneonta hung with the Generals throughout most of the 1st half and actually had the lead 18-17 with 5:57 remaining in the period. The Generals however closed the half with a 13-3 run to go into the break up 30-21.
Down by 12 early in the 2nd, the Red Dragons closed to within 3 at 39-36 with 14:40 to play, but Washington and Lee scored 7 unanswered points to once again gain a double digit lead. Red Dragons got it down to 6 on 2 more occasions but the Generals responded each time and built their lead to a high of 16. Oneonta got killed on the boards 35-20 as the Generals grabbed 14 offensive rebounds and converted a number of them into 2nd chance points.
Brian Hooks with 16 points and Shane Gillette with 11 were the top scorers for Oneonta as they fell to 2-7 on the season. Red Dragons will be in action again this Friday when they host Fredonia State and then on Saturday when Buffalo State comes to town.

       

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
Finally after a 30 day layoff I'll get to see some hoops as #6 Middlebury rolls into Plattsburgh to take on the #22 ranked Cardinals at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall at 8 PM tonight.       

Good luck tonite magicman! I predict a 87-82 Cards victory over Middlebury!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2011, 07:13:28 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
Finally after a 30 day layoff I'll get to see some hoops as #6 Middlebury rolls into Plattsburgh to take on the #22 ranked Cardinals at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall at 8 PM tonight.       

Good luck tonite magicman! I predict a 87-82 Cards victory over Middlebury!!

Bengalsrule,
I sure hope your prediction is right. (For a change. ;D)   I'm thinking more like Cards win, 79-76.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2011, 02:41:18 AM
Just returned from watching #22 Plattsburgh State take on #6 Middlebury at Memorial Hall. The boys from Vermont were just too tough tonight and managed to outshoot and out-rebound the Cards on their home floor to come away with an 88-82 win in the marquee matchup of Division 3 Hoops tonight. I don't know if anybody is going to out-rebound the Panthers this year with the front line they put on the floor. Maybe Williams or Amherst might but there's not many D3 teams with a starting five of 6'10", 6'8",  6'4", 6'3," and 6'2".

Middlebury came out of the blocks in a hurry and quickly grabbed a 9-2 advantage after the first few minutes of play. Plattsburgh came back with a 12-0 run that featured back to back old fashioned 3 point plays by Steve Thomas and Chris Ruiz. That gave the Cards a 14-9 lead which would match their biggest lead of the night. Seven more lead changes and a tie would follow until the Panthers went up 37-33 on an alley-oop dunk by Andrew Locke on a nice feed from Jake Wolfin with a minute to play in the half. Thomas then drove to the hoop for a layup and as the Panthers were trying to position themselves for the final shot of the period, Carl Munnerlyn stole the ball and Thomas hit a jump shot at the buzzer to send the teams into the break tied at 37.

The teams continued to trade baskets through the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half with Middlebury gaining a slight advantage in that they maintained a 1 or 2 possession lead. The turning point of the game came with about 7 minutes left to play and it was an old nemesis of the Cardinals, foul shooting, which was partly responsible. Plattsburgh had made 6 of 7 free throws in the 1st half but they were down 59-55 when they made three trips to the line for 2 shot fouls over the next 1:56. They missed 5 straight free throws before making 1 and that would have kept the game a 1 or 2 possession contest. Instead the Panthers scored after each of the Cards free throw trips, and quickly had the first double digit lead by either team at 70-59. The Cardinals continued to fall further behind and then with 1:53 remaining, Cardinal Guard Josh Bruno, who had 14 minutes of playing time at that point, re-entered the game. Bruno had taken 3 shots earlier in the game, all from behind the arc and made all 3. He promptly proceeds to hit another triple with 1:43 left, then steals the ball, makes a layup is fouled and hits the free throw at the 1:21 mark for another 3 point play. With 33 seconds left he nails another 3 pointer, is fouled and makes the free throw to complete the 4 point play. With 21 seconds left he is fouled again and makes both foul shots(Damn only 2 pts). The Cards get another steal and Bruno, this time from about 3 feet behind the line nails another 3 pointer with 16 seconds left on the clock, to complete a run of 15 pts in ONE MINUTE AND 37 SECONDS. Josh ended up playing 16 minutes in the game and he tied Ryan Wholey of the Panthers for the game's scoring honors with 24. Bruno was a perfect 7x7 from the field and 6x6 from 3 point land. Strangely enough when the Cards missed those 5 free throws in a row, he missed 2 of them( both spun out) but did make his next 4 attempts. Bruno's heroics did bring the Cardinals back from a double digit deficit and made the final score of 88-82 a bit more respectable. Even Panther coach Jeff Brown got a touch nervous as he watched a 16 pt lead dwindle to 5, forcing him to call a time out with just a few seconds left. It seems to me that 15 points scored by an individual in 97 seconds (and it's not by a player that is on a winning team and is repeatedly being fouled so most of his points are coming as free throws) should be some kind of record. It's probably not, but it sure was fun to watch.

In addition to Bruno's 24 pts, the Cardinals had 3 other players in double figures. Carl Munnerlyn had 16 pts (6x12 fg, 4x9 3's,), Steve Thomas had 14 pts (5x10 fg, 0x1 3's 4x5 ft) plus Errol Daniyan managed a double-double with 12 pts (5x13 fg, 2x3 ft) and 10 rebounds. The Cardinals shot 29x67 (43.3%) from the field, 11x11 (50%) from beyond the arc and 13x19 (68.4%) from the foul line. The Panthers won the rebound battle 44 to 35 and both teams committed only 12 turnovers apiece. Strange statistic of the night: Middlebury leads the nation in blocked shots but tonight they only had 3, while  the Cardinals had 4, ( 3 by Daniyan) against the Panthers.

Middlebury also had 4 players in double figures. Ryan Wholey scored 24 pts (9x15 fg, 5x9 3's, 1x3 ft) along with 5 rebounds and 2 steals. Ryan Sharry and Jake Wolfin both managed double-doubles. Sharry had 14 pts (5x12 fg, 1x2 3's, 3x7 ft) along with 13 rebounds, while Wolfin had 12 pts (4x10 fg, 2x6 3's, 2x2 ft) and 10 assists. Andrew Locke had 11 pts (5x7 fg, 1x2 ft), 8 rebounds and 2 blocks. Joey Kizel just missed a double-double with 10 assists and a perfect 9 points (2x2 fg, 1x1 3's, 4x4 ft). Panthers shot 31x63 (49.2%) from the field, 10x23 (43.5%) from 3 point land and 16x28 from the foul line.

Plattsburgh now 6-2, in the midst of a 4 games in 5 days stretch, is right back at it Wednesday night taking on another solid D3 team as the Blazers from Elms College will pay a visit to Memorial Hall at 6 PM.

Middlebury improves to 8-0 and returns to action on Thursday evening as they travel to Colby-Sawyer  for a 7 PM matchup. 
                 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2011, 05:27:50 AM
Brockport State defeats visiting St. Lawrence 75-71. Gerald Williams and Kyheem Green both scored 20 points to lead the Golden Eagles to the win. Down 16-13 the Eagles went on a 12-0 run to grab a 9 point lead 25-16 and the Larries never caught them after that. Brockport was up 40-34 at the half and increased their lead in the 2nd period to as much as 13 on several occasions before allowing the Saints to close the gap to 4  with a 3 pointer at the buzzer. Francisco Lantigua was a perfect 2x2 from the field and 12x12 from the line to total 16 points.
Ralph Temgoua was the games high scorer as he led the Saints with 22 points.

Brockport makes the long trip up to Northern New York this weekend visiting Potsdam on Friday evening and renewing their rivalry with Plattsburgh on Saturday afternoon.


 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2011, 05:55:44 AM
Potsdam State got hammered by Hobart on Tuesday night, 92-59. Potsdam had an early 14-10 lead but a 21-3 run by the Statesmen gave them a double digit lead that would only grow larger as they went into the break up 48-27. They quickly built the lead up to 30 at the start of the 2nd half and coasted home for the 33 point win. Matt Pebole once again led Hobart and was the game's leading scorer with 19 points. The Statesmen had 3 other players in double figures. Potsdam was led by Curtis Pierce who had 17 points and 9 rebounds. No freshman big man Rob Duquette?

Potsdam plays host to Brockport on Friday night and Geneseo on Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2011, 06:02:18 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
Finally after a 30 day layoff I'll get to see some hoops as #6 Middlebury rolls into Plattsburgh to take on the #22 ranked Cardinals at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall at 8 PM tonight.       

Good luck tonite magicman! I predict a 87-82 Cards victory over Middlebury!!

Good prediction on the score. Only off a point on the high side. Can't get much better than that. Wrong team won though. :( Was a good game to watch as both teams played some good bball. Elms College tonight We need to get back on track. Hopefully the Blazers will be more accomodating.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2011, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2011, 06:02:18 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
Finally after a 30 day layoff I'll get to see some hoops as #6 Middlebury rolls into Plattsburgh to take on the #22 ranked Cardinals at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall at 8 PM tonight.       

Good luck tonite magicman! I predict a 87-82 Cards victory over Middlebury!!

Good prediction on the score. Only off a point on the high side. Can't get much better than that. Wrong team won though. :( Was a good game to watch as both teams played some good bball. Elms College tonight We need to get back on track. Hopefully the Blazers will be more accomodating.

   Tough 1 there magicman. Tonites game vs. Elms should end on a better note. Purcell (make him go left or he will kill you!) and Alveria (a beast on the glass and in the paint but foul prone) make that team go however I noticed that the Bruno kid (for Middlebury) hurt your guys from the 3 pt arc (6 for 6). Beware of Daniel Gonzalez for ELMS. This kid has attempted twice as many 3 pt shots (74) than 2 ptrs (34). Against my BENGALS 12 of his 17 shots were from beyond the arc. If there is an opening he's gonna take advantage of it.

   Lastly..get ready for a pre-game ritual by ELMS that rivals what the UNIVERSITY of HAWAII football team does! Plenty shouting and antics (doesnt necessarily translate into victories though)!

Good luck tonite!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 05, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
That pre-game ritual is called "the haka"  It originates with the Maori's (first peoples of New Zealand).
The New Zealand national rugby team "The All Blacks" does it before each game to scare the other team and get the spirits on their side.  I've seen many other teams in various sports copy this routine.

Still think that Oswego is the team to beat in the SUNYAC.  They have so much quality size in the post, and some deadly outside shooters.

Bears are clearly on the schneid, fortunately I'm going to California for 10 days so I can try to fugettaboutit.

Happy New Year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2011, 05:07:44 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 05, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
That pre-game ritual is called "the haka"  It originates with the Maori's (first peoples of New Zealand).
The New Zealand national rugby team "The All Blacks" does it before each game to scare the other team and get the spirits on their side.  I've seen many other teams in various sports copy this routine.

Still think that Oswego is the team to beat in the SUNYAC.  They have so much quality size in the post, and some deadly outside shooters.

Bears are clearly on the schneid, fortunately I'm going to California for 10 days so I can try to fugettaboutit.

Happy New Year.

Thanks for "the haka" info Bear
TEMP in Potsdam today is 26 degrees.
Average Temp in Cali (Low-Sacramento 52 to Hi-San Diego 68)  today is 58 degrees.
Sounds like a gooood move there! ;). Enjoy Bear!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2011, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2011, 11:05:08 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2011, 06:02:18 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2011, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2011, 12:00:55 PM
Finally after a 30 day layoff I'll get to see some hoops as #6 Middlebury rolls into Plattsburgh to take on the #22 ranked Cardinals at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall at 8 PM tonight.        

Good luck tonite magicman! I predict a 87-82 Cards victory over Middlebury!!

Good prediction on the score. Only off a point on the high side. Can't get much better than that. Wrong team won though. :( Was a good game to watch as both teams played some good bball. Elms College tonight We need to get back on track. Hopefully the Blazers will be more accomodating.

  Tough 1 there magicman. Tonites game vs. Elms should end on a better note. Purcell (make him go left or he will kill you!) and Alveria (a beast on the glass and in the paint but foul prone) make that team go however I noticed that the Bruno kid (for Middlebury) hurt your guys from the 3 pt arc (6 for 6). Beware of Daniel Gonzalez for ELMS. This kid has attempted twice as many 3 pt shots (74) than 2 ptrs (34). Against my BENGALS 12 of his 17 shots were from beyond the arc. If there is an opening he's gonna take advantage of it.

  Lastly..get ready for a pre-game ritual by ELMS that rivals what the UNIVERSITY of HAWAII football team does! Plenty shouting and antics (doesnt necessarily translate into victories though)!

Good luck tonite!!!

Bengalsrule,
The Bruno kid actually helped us. He plays for Plattsburgh. ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 05, 2011, 09:24:27 PM
Wifey is taking 13 kids to a music industry trade show in Anaheim.  I'm the roadie, gofer, chauffeur, budget analyst, computer operator, bail bondsman (seriously - really good kids on this trip) etc. 

Provided we get out of JFK on Saturday, spending 8 days in Anaheim/San Diego, able to wear, shorts, short sleeved shirts, crocs etc, which we won't see in the 'dam until April.  My daughter called from SD last week, said they were having a winter storm, temps in high 50's and rain.  I LAUGHED.

Duquette was on the bench in civvies vs. Hobart, don't know what the issue is, but often there are a lot of muscle pulls etc coming back from vacation.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2011, 04:49:09 AM
Tough night for Plattsburgh State as they fall to Elms College 70-58. Not much to say about the Cardinals performance tonight that is positive. Poor shooting from the floor 20x54 (37%), from in back of the arc, 5x19( 26.3%) and the line 13x23 (56.5%), along with 19 turnovers usually results in a loss. About the only thing the Cardinals won was the battle of the boards (44-35) and that was due to Errol Daniyan's double-double of 23 points and 15 rebounds. Both of those numbers were game highs but unfortunately Errol didn't have much help. None of Plattsburgh other big guns hit double figures, and defensively the Cardinals allowed far too many easy buckets. Plattsburgh's 1-2 scoring punch of Chris Ruiz and Steve Thomas were a combined 3x19 from the floor and 1x8 from 3 point land.  Don't know if it was the after effects of a tough loss to Middlebury on Tuesday, a lack of conditioning after a 30 day layoff, or the fact that Plattsburgh played, arguably their toughest 2 opponents on back to back days after that long layoff, but the team looked flat. Poor passing, poor shot selection, and at times a lack of focus by the players on both ends of the floor just isn't going to get it done. This team should be playing better basketball than it has played all year long. Even in games that the Cardinals have won, too many times they have let the opposition hang around by allowing double digit leads to disappear. The only other positive is tonight's loss was not a regional game so it won't hurt us in that respect, but our national ranking will probably evaporate with back to back losses.
Hopefully the Cardinals will regroup after a day off and get ready to take care of business this weekend as Geneseo and then Brockport come to town.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2011, 05:28:28 AM
Oswego gets upset by visiting St. Lawrence 58-57. If someone told me that SLU's leading scorer Ralph Temgoua would go 1x10 from the field and only score 2 pts, there's no way I'd figure the Saints could win this game. Neither team could gain much of an advantage and the Saints were down 4 with 1:18 to play when a 3 pointer by SLU cut it to 1. The Lakers took a timeout and out of the break missed a jumper with 53 seconds left. Saints rebounded that miss and took a shot with a dozen ticks left, missed it but got the offensive rebound, missed another shot with 9 seconds left but again got the rebound. Had a layup attempt with 6 seconds remaining, missed it but SLU's Nick Meunier was there for the tipin with 3 seconds left and the 58-57 lead. Oswego called another timeout but turned it over to end the game. SLU got 4 attempts in 9 seconds to convert the winning basket. That must have been tough for the home crowd to take.
Chad Burridge led the Lakers and was the game's leading scorer with 19 points. Connor Monaghan had 14 and Ryan Sheridan added 10.
St. Lawrence was led by Garrett Sharlow with 15 points, Terry Parham with 13, and Jon Goldberg with 10. Saints improve to 4-6 and will not play again until January 14 when they travel to RPI for an 8 PM matchup.

Oswego falls to 6-2 and will travel to Cortland for their next game on Saturday evening.  

Speaking of Cortland, the Red Dragons had an upset of their own Wednesday evening as they traveled to Nazareth and beat the Golden Flyers 53-50 to improve their record to 3-6. Cortland's Jesse Winter led all scorers with 22 points (8x11 fg, 3x5 3's, 3x4 ft). Harrison Hefele and Kevin McMahon both added a dozen points. It was Harrison's 3 pointer with a minute to play that was the key basket for Cortland as it gave the Red Dragon's a 4 point lead.
Nazareth got 14 points and 10 rebounds from Brad Ford while Jason Corletta also scored 14 points. Nazareth drops to 7-3 on the year and will host Hartwick on Friday evning at 8 PM.      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2011, 11:01:01 AM
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Bengalsrule,
The Bruno kid actually helped us. He plays for Plattsburgh. ;) :D ;D
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I gotta start reading these posts slower :-[ :'( :-\

Another tuff 1 vs ELMS. I truly believe that Plattsburgh is the better of the 2 but after 30 days off and then a Middlebury/Elms combo in 26 hours....oooowwweee! Thats gotta be tough!
I watched Geneseo play Monday at D'Youville. Squeaked 1 out ( not sure if it was the time
off since they played brockport 12/7 or just them playing badly) against the Spartans by 3. The Knights ran more than I have ever seen them run before. They are headed your way for a Friday contest. With Brockport on tap for Saturday afternoon ( #1 in Blocked shots and 3rd in steals) the Cards may want to re-think that "Welcome back to Jan"combo for the future!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 06, 2011, 01:08:58 PM
TIME CHANGE FOR CORTLAND-OSWEGO DOUBLEHEADER ON SATURDAY:

The Cortland-Oswego games on Saturday (Jan. 8) will now be at 2 p.m. (women's) and 4 p.m. (men's).

Thanks.

Fran Elia
Cortland SID
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2011, 03:50:37 AM
Friday Night's Schedule

4 games on tap as the SUNYAC returns to conference play.


Buffalo State @ New Paltz State      8:00 PM  Think the Bengals win on the road 
   
Brockport State @ Potsdam State    8:00 PM  Port gets revenge from last year
   
Fredonia State @ Oneonta State      8:00 PM  Oneonta but it could be in OT 
   
Geneseo State @ Plattsburgh State  8:00 PM  Close but Cards win at home

I believe Live Stats are available for all four games.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2011, 01:56:38 AM
It was protect your home court night in the YAC as all 4 visiting teams failed to find the winner's circle in hoop action this evening.

Potsdam State 74 Brockport State 60

Potsdam State pulled off the biggest surprise of the night, not so much by beating Brockport, but by beating the Golden Eagles so easily. Last February19th an 11-5 Brockport team was challenging for the SUNYAC regular season title when they came north to Maxy Hall to face the 2-14 last place Bears. Potsdam jumped all over the Eagles in the 1st half of that game and went into the break up by 15. Brockport almost came all the way back but ended up suffering a 78-76 defeat that ultimately pushed them into a 4th seed for the playoffs.

Tonight's game was a deja vu experience for the Golden Eagles as Potsdam once again grabbed an early lead and never looked back. Up by 11 with 11:23 to play in the 1st half the Bears would extend their advantage to 20 before settling with an 18 point 43-25 halftime edge. Most of the 2nd half Potsdam maintained a comfortable lead but Brockport did manage to close it to single digits at the 4:00 mark when consectutive baskets made it 65-56. The Bears responded with 7 unanswered points to end any chance of a Brockport comeback.
Potsdam moves into a 3rd place tie in the conference with Oneonta both with 2-1 records. Potsdam is 3-7 overall.  

Balanced scoring for the Bears tonight as 10 players scored at least 4 points. Curtis Pierce was Potsdam's main man with a double-double as he was the game's high scorer with 18 points (8x13 fg, 2x2 ft) and also grabbed a game high 13 rebounds. Greg Torchon added 11 points (2x4 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x7 ft) off the bench and freshman big man Rob Duquette who was back in action after missing last game, chipped in with 6 points and 8 rebounds in 18 minutes. The Bears shot 23x50 (46%) from the field, 6x13 (46.2%) from behind the arc and 22x28 (78.6%) from the line. They outrebounded Brockport 45 to 39, but did have 20 turnovers to only 13 for Brockport.

Brockport had 3 players in double figures led by Kyheem Green with 17 points (8x20 fg, 1x3 3's, 0x2 ft) and 10 rebounds for his double-double. Gerald Williams followed with 15 points (3x13 fg, 0x7 3's, 9x10 ft) and Zack McTigue had 14 points (6x9 fg, 2x5 ft) The Golden Eagles had a tough night putting the ball through the hoop. They were only 21x65 (32.3%) from the field, and absolutely pathetic from long distance hitting only 2x18 (11.1%). Free throws were 16x29 (55.2). Brockport is in 5th place in the standings, with a 1-1 record. The Golden Eagles drop to 3-6 overall.  

Potsdam will host Geneseo at 4 PM Sat. afternoon while Brockport completes it's northern NY trip by traveling over to Plattsburgh to face the Cardinals also at 4 PM. Live stats are available for both games.      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2011, 04:12:55 AM
Plattsburgh State proved to be rather rude hosts tonight for the visiting Geneseo Blue Knights as the Cardinals cruised to a 73-51 victory. Cardinals Steve Thomas hit a 3 pointer 4 seconds into the game and Plattsburgh never trailed. Geneseo responded with a basket to make it 3-2 but wouldn't score another point until the 12:27 mark of the 1st half. Lucky for them the Cardinals were in a bit of a funk themselves as they missed 6 shots and had 6 turnovers in that stretch and only had a 10-4 lead at that point. But the Cards got untracked and Geneseo's basket had a lid on it as Plattsburgh outscored the Blue Knights 21-5 over the next 7 minutes to open up a 31-9 lead. The teams went to the break with Plattsburgh up 40-15. The Blue Knights only had 6 field goals in the half and while the stat sheet said they were 6x26 from the field it sure looked like it was worse than that. They did come out and shoot better in the 2nd period but Plattsburgh wasn't about to let them back into the game. They never got closer than 19 and Plattsburgh's Coach Curle had his bench playing lots of minutes throughout the contest.

Four players hit double figures. Starters Steve Thomas had 15 and Chris Ruiz had 13. Carl Munnerlyn came off the bench and added 12 points, while freshman Reggie Williams also came off the bench and had the first double digit game of his young Plattsburgh career. Williams scored 11 points (4x7 fg, 3x4 ft), grabbed 4 boards and had 2 blocks in 11 minutes of playing time. Plattsburgh didn't shoot all that great going 28x70 from the field (40%), 7x20 from 3 point land (35%) and 10x14 from the line (71.4%). They had a slight edge on the boards 42-39 and won the turnover battle 19-26.

Geneseo's Ryan Riefenhauser was the only player in double figures with 12 points and 8 rebounds. Abe Miller had 6 points and 10 rebounds. Geneseo's Coach Minton pulled some surprises when his starting lineup was announced. Three of his regular starters, leading scorer Mike Hoy, Jordan Jones, and Mike Baker, who have started every game they've played in, this year, were on the bench for the first part of the game, as was John Drazen, who has started 4 of 8 games this year.
The only regular starter in the opening lineup was Riefenhauser and he was scoreless in the 1st half. The other 4 starters in tonight's game had a combined total of 2 starts between them. Not sure if he was trying to match up a bunch of his starters with Plattsburgh's bench or not, but it certainly didn't work out to well for the Blue Knights. His 5 starters tonight scored 2 points in the first half. You're not going to win too many games with that statistic. Geneseo ended up shooting 19x54 from the field (35.2%), 1x10 from long distance (10%) and 12x21 from the line (57.1%).

Plattsburgh is now 3-0  in the conference and takes over sole possession of 1st place as Oswego was off Friday night. The Cards improve to 7-3 overall heading into the game with Brockport on Sat. afternoon. Just about every game these 2 teams have played in the past 5 years has been decided by 4 pts or less. Last year the Cards dropped a double overtime game in Brockport, 100-96, but came back to clinch the top seed in the conference tournament by beating the Golden Eagles in Plattsburgh on the last day of the regular season, 75-74. Something tells me that Brockport will bring it on Saturday, despite getting pounded by Potsdam on Friday night.

Blue Knights fall to 0-2 in the SUNYAC and 6-3 overall. They are tied with Cortland for 9th place in the standings. Geneseo now has to regroup, travel to Potsdam and try to get off the schneid in the conference. I'm not sure after watching them tonight if that's possible. Quite frankly I was expecting to see a much better team than I did. I figured any team that beat St John Fisher, played a good Hobart team to within 4 points and beat a decent Medaille team, while going 6-2, was going to play the Cardinals much closer than they did. Could have just been a bad day at Black Rock and they'll shake it off and come out tomorrow and shoot lights out. But if they fall to 0-3 and the Bears go to 3-1 that battle for the 8th and final playoff spot just got a whole lot harder for the Blue Knights.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2011, 06:06:20 AM
New Paltz 86  Buffalo State 85.

New Paltz comes back from a 21 point deficit 49-28 with 3 minutes left in the 1st half, and ends the period with a 12-0 run to to keep it close at 49-40. The Hawks slowly chip away at the lead and finally after 13 minutes of 2nd half play they get it to a 1 possession game at 70-67 on 2 Harris Wichard free throws. Still down 75-69 with 4:19 left the Hawks score 8 unanswered points in 1:10 to retake the lead  with 3:09 to play in the game. It was their first lead since the score was 6-5 early in the game. What followed next was 8 lead changes and 3 ties but the Hawks scored the last basket and despite the fact that there was 54 seconds left to play, the Bengals failed to come up with an equalizing free throw or go ahead bucket. Poor foul shooting was most definitely the major reason, if not the only reason, that the Bengals aren't putting a W on the scorecard. Buffalo St. went to the free throw line 37 times in Friday night's game but only sunk 19 and 4 of those misses came after New Paltz scored the final points of the game. First Glenroy Carr misses 2 free throws with 45 seconds left and after a New Paltz turnover, and Bengal time out, Carr's attempt to win the game misses but Jake Simmons grabs the offensive rebound and is fouled with 4 seconds left. He misses both of his attempts, New Paltz gets the rebound, is fouled with 2 ticks left and they miss both of their attempts as the game ends. Both Carr and Simmons are normally decent foul shooters as they were averaging 72% and 85% respectively coming into this game. Hard to believe they gave up that big lead, harder still to believe that 2 of your better foul shooters go 0 for 4 with the game on the line.

Nick Taldi led 5 Hawks in double figures with 18 pts, while Daniel Olsen had a double-double of 13 pts and 12 rebounds. Shareef Taylor just missed a double-double with13 pts and 9  rebounds. Harris Wichard had 12 points and Matt Devine added 11. Hawks won rebounding battle 48-40 but turned the ball over 23 times while the Bengals only had 11 TO's. Key stat was New Paltz sinking 33 of 43 (76.7%) attempts from the charity stripe while Buffalo State was only 19 of 37 (51.4%). Hawks also outshot Bengals from the field, 24x57 (42.1%) to 30x74 (40.5%) and from long distance, 5x14 (35.7%) to 6x21 (28.6%).

Bengals placed 4 players in double figures led by Jake Simmons who was the game's high scorer with 22 pts. Chris Cartwright added 20, Glenroy Carr had 13 and Ahmed Nagaya added 10.
Buffalo State drops to 1-2 inthe SUNYAC and is tied with New Paltz and Fredonia  for 6th place. They are 6-3 overall. New Paltz is 5-4 overall  

Bengals play Red Dragons at Oneonta Saturday afternoon at 4 PM

New Paltz will host Fredonia at the same time.                
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2011, 07:35:03 AM
Oneonta State 58    Fredonia State 46

Fredonia took the early lead in their matchup at Oneonta and eventually stretched it to their biggest margin of the evening, a 20-11 edge with 7:47 left in the 1st half.  But from that point forward it was all Oneonta. The Red Dragons ended the half on a 14-2 run and went into the break up 25-22. A Blue Devil triple tied it up at the start of the 2nd period but the Red Dragons answered every score with 1 of their own and Fredonia couldn't gain the lead. Up 34-32 with 12:03 to play Oneonta had another 15-2 run that gave then a commanding 15 point lead with 3:37 remaining.

Shane Gillette and Troy Talbot each scored 12 points to lead the Red Dragons. Joseph Monahan and Damien Goodwin with 10 points apiece were the top scorers for Fredonia.

Oneonta is now 2-1 in conference play and is tied with Potsdam for 3rd place. Red Dragons go to 3-7 overall on the year. They will host Buffalo State Saturday afternoon at 4 PM

Fredonia falls into a 3 way tie for 6th place in the conference with a 1-2 record and stands at 3-5 overall. They travel to New Paltz for a 4 PM  game later today.  

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2011, 08:39:03 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2011, 03:50:37 AM
Friday Night's Schedule

4 games on tap as the SUNYAC returns to conference play.


Buffalo State @ New Paltz State      8:00 PM  Think the Bengals win on the road 
   
Brockport State @ Potsdam State    8:00 PM  Port gets revenge from last year
   
Fredonia State @ Oneonta State      8:00 PM  Oneonta but it could be in OT 
   
Geneseo State @ Plattsburgh State  8:00 PM  Close but Cards win at home

I believe Live Stats are available for all four games.
   


Two out of four but really should have been three as Buffalo St. blowing the big lead is unreal. I guess I jinxed them by predicting a road win. I was paying Bengalsrule back for jinxing Plattsburgh St when they played Middlebury and Elms. Now we're even! Oh wait! I still owe you one.  :D

Always happy when I pick Potsdam to lose and I'm wrong. Hope I'm wrong a lot with them this year because I'll be picking them to lose a lot. Here's a good example why. St. Lawrence pounds the Bears 70-48.  Brockport beats St. Lawrence 75-71. How can you pick the Bears to beat Brockport. You can't and they do and they make it look easy winning by double digits the entire game.



Anyway I love to predict so here's today's schedule:

Geneseo State      Potsdam State      4:00 PM 
When was the last time Potsdam won 2 in a row? Well it won't happen today. Geneseo leaves the North Country with a split as they win 71-66 
   
Fredonia State      New Paltz State      4:00 PM 
Hawks have too much firepower for Fredonia. They win 83-72
   
Brockport State      Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM LS
I'm think the Cards win but not sure of the margin. Brockport has been so inconsistant. Think it might be the first time in a long time that the margin is more than 4 points. Cardinals win 81-67
   
Buffalo State      Oneonta State      4:00 PM LS
Think the Bengals win on the road 86-81   Bengalsrule does that sound familiar?
   
Oswego State      Cortland State      4:00 PM LS A
Lakers get a road win here as they down the Red Dragons 74-66 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
SUNYAC Results for Saturday's games.

Potsdam St. 55  Geneseo St. 54

Oswego St 68  Cortland St 60

Brockport St. 75 Plattsburgh St  65

New Paltz 94  Fredonia 89

Oneonta St 86  Buffalo St 70



 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2011, 08:48:14 PM
SUNYAC Standings after today's games

1.   Oswego St             3-0
2.   Plattsburgh St       3-1
2.   Oneonta St.            3-1
2.   Potsdam St.            3-1
5.   Brockport St            2-1
6.   New Paltz St           2.2
7.   Buffalo St                1-3
7.   Fredonia St              1-3
9.   Cortland St              0-3
9.   Geneseo St              0-3   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: owen on January 09, 2011, 09:34:56 AM
Pleasant surprise to see Potsdam 3-1 in SUNYAC. Too bad about the 1-6 non-conference record though. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 09, 2011, 10:30:08 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2011, 03:50:37 AM
Friday Night's Schedule

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Anyway I love to predict so here's today's schedule:

Geneseo State      Potsdam State      4:00 PM  
When was the last time Potsdam won 2 in a row? Well it won't happen today. Geneseo leaves the North Country with a split as they win 71-66  
 
...


Actually - this was a repeat of last season, the Bears swept both Brockport and Geneseo last year at the end of the season, in fact knocking the Knights out of the playoffs.

Nice conference start for the Bears, 3-1 is a pretty good job of protecting the "house"

P.S.  Live stats is great when you can't be there.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2011, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 08, 2011, 08:39:03 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2011, 03:50:37 AM

Buffalo State @ New Paltz State      8:00 PM  Think the Bengals win on the road 
   
I believe Live Stats are available for all four games.
   

Two out of four but really should have been three as Buffalo St. blowing the big lead is unreal. I guess I jinxed them by predicting a road win. I was paying Bengalsrule back for jinxing Plattsburgh St when they played Middlebury and Elms. Now we're even! Oh wait! I still owe you one.  :D

Buffalo State      Oneonta State      4:00 PM LS
Think the Bengals win on the road 86-81   Bengalsrule does that sound familiar?

OUCH! Still feeling the pain from this weekend Magic. New Paltz game was a night mare. Up by 19 in the first half...had 2 free throws with 4.4 seconds left in regulation and down by 1...couldn't hit either (although I'll take a Jake Simmons at the line any day of the week).

Oneonta game was a nightmare! Nuff said.

Hopefully we are even ;) ("i still owe you 1").

WEDS FREDONIA Feels our PAIN!!!! (you listening Freddy???)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 10, 2011, 01:31:05 PM
The road will do funny things to a team. My beloved Eagles fall to Potsdam on Friday and must of played the game of their life on Saturday to defeat Plattsburgh. That is always a very difficult trip to make from western NY. Congrats on the Plattsburgh win. Sorry about your sleepwalking on Friday. The Bears are better than expected.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2011, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 10, 2011, 01:31:05 PM
The road will do funny things to a team. My beloved Eagles fall to Potsdam on Friday and must of played the game of their life on Saturday to defeat Plattsburgh. That is always a very difficult trip to make from western NY. Congrats on the Plattsburgh win. Sorry about your sleepwalking on Friday. The Bears are better than expected.

scooter,
Your Eagles did play well on Saturday. Green scored Brockport's 1st 2 baskets of the game to give them a 4-0 lead but never scored again in the half. Lantigua was the guy who mattered as he came off the bench to score 9 pts in the 1st period. He went 4x5 from the field with a 3 pointer and 3 nice inside baskets. It seemed like every time Plattsburgh got some momentum, a Lantigua bucket would rescue the Eagles. In the 2nd half Green and Are got it going as they scored 14 and 10, while Lantigua came off the bench again and scored 7 more points. Game was still up for grabs with 1:36 to go and Brockport up 61-65, but a Green dunk followed by a technical foul called against Plattsburgh put the game out of reach at 69-61 with 1:07 to play. Plattsburgh played a poor 2nd half but it was their 4th game in 5 days and they were just plain tired. When the Cardinals travel to Brockport on February 4th I'm sure they'll bring their "A" game and the season series, just like most years, will be all even.

I'm still picking Plattsburgh to win the conference regular season despite talk of Oswego being the team to beat. This coming weekend will see the top 5 teams facing off in some head to head matchups that should go a long way in establishing some kind of pecking order. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2011, 04:11:18 PM
Here's a 12 year old kid that will get a few offers in 4 or 5 years. Shades of Pete Maravich.

http://www.komonews.com/sports/heroes/111892554.html
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2011, 10:07:50 PM
Two games just ended.

Oneonta defeats visiting Oswego in double overtime 75-73.

New Paltz defeats visiting Cortland 64-54. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2011, 12:43:26 AM
Oneonta almost hands Oswego the game at the end of regulation, at the end of the 1st overtime and at the end of the 2nd overtime, but each time the Lakers say, no thank you we don't want it. The Red Dragons finally win it with a Derek Hahn basket at the buzzer of the 2nd extra session.

Oswego takes the early lead as they open up a 12 point advantage 16-4 after 6 minutes of play and continue to lead by double digits 24-14 with 8 minutes left in the half. The Red Dragons owned those 8 minutes however as they outscored the Lakers 20-6 to go into the break up 34-30.

Oneonta continued to lead early in the 2nd half but the Lakers stayed close and finally tied it at 39 with 14:13 left to play. Oneonta then scored 3 straight baskets and after the Lakers Chad Burridge hit a pair of free throws, Oneonta's Brian Hooks hit from long distance to give the Red Dragons the largest lead of the game at 48-41. Oswego comes right back with a 14-2 run of their own to regain the lead 55-50 with 5:36 remaining. An Oneonta basket followed by another Hooks' triple ties it up again. Oswego goes back up by 3 but Oneonta's Troy Talbot drives for 2 and Hooks nails another 3 pointer to give the Red Dragons a 60-58 lead with 2 minutes to go. Laker's Kevin Kucel ties it up and with 29 seconds to go Oneonta turns it over. Kucel's attempt for the win with 4 seconds left rims out and the teams head to overtime.

In the overtime period the teams trade baskets and remain tied, but with 1:09 left Oneonta's Dan McLaren makes a layup and is fouled to give the Red Dragons a 67-65 lead and a chance to make an old fashioned 3 point play. McLaren misses the free throw and the Lakers rebound the ball, only to have it stolen by Derek Hahn with 53 seconds to go. Clearly in the driver's seat,  the Red Dragons have to make it interesting as they proceed to turn the ball over to Oswego and Chad Burridge makes them pay as he drives to the hoop and scores his 7th point of the extra session (he was the only Laker to score in the overtime period) to tie the game at 67. With 17 seconds to play Oneonta still has time for the game winner but instead they turn it over once again with 14 seconds left and Burridge misses a shot at the buzzer that would have won it for the Lakers. On to the 2nd OT.

Oneonta starts off with a basket, Lakers get a free throw followed by another Oneonta basket to give then a 3 point lead with 2 minutes left. Again, Burridge comes through as he rebounds a missed shot and gets fouled as he makes the putback. His free throw ties the game at 71 but Oneonta scores on their next possession to regain the lead and when Oswego misses a 3 point attempt with 57 seconds to go, the Red Dragons grabs the rebound. For the third time Oneonta is in a position to close out this game but they turn the ball over with 47 seconds to play.  And again it's Burridge who ties the game with a layup and goes to the line with a chance for the lead with 34 seconds remaining. He misses the foul shot and Oneonta rebounds goes for the last shot which is blocked by Burridge  with 5 seconds left but goes right to Derek Hahn who lays it in for the game winner. Burridge had a final attempt from behind the arc at the buzzer that hit the front of the rim. Burridge scored 12 of the 13 points that the Lakers scored in the 2 overtime periods.

Oneonta was led by Brian Hooks and Derek Hahn with 18 points each. Hooks was 6x11 from the field but all six shots were from long distance.  He had no free throw attempts. Hahn was 7x10 from the field and 4x5 from the line. Sophomore Dan McLaren started his first game of the season and responded with a 17 point  effort. He was 8x11 from the field and 1x3 from the line. Both Hahn and McLaren grabbed 8 rebounds apiece as the Red Dragons won the battle off the glass 44-40. Oneonta had 17 turnovers while Oswego only had 9.

The Lakers were led once again by Chad Burridge who had game honors in both points with 27 (11x20 fg, 1x3 3's, 4x7 ft)  and rebounding with 11 to give him his 2nd double-double in a row. Brendon Nollet added 12 points (5x9 fg, 2x4 ft) with 7 rebounds.

Oneonta now moves into sole possession of first place in the SUNYAC with a 4-1 record. Oswego falls into a 3 way tie with Plattsburgh and Potsdam for 2nd place all at 3-1. Big changes will take place this weekend however as Oneonta travels to Brockport and Geneseo. Oswego will host Potsdam and then Plattsburgh, while Cortland gets the northern NY pair as well.                       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2011, 03:35:39 AM
New Paltz improves to 3-2 in conference play with Tuesday nights win over Cortland. Hawks gain lead for good with 11:02 left in the 1st half. Up 27-26 with 2 minutes to go in the half, the Hawks hit 7 unanswered free throws and go into the locker room up 34-26. Cortland kept it close for most of the 2nd half but with 16 minutes left to play they never got closer than 4 points. Hawks got a double figure lead, 46-36, with 13:42 remainiing and any time the Red Dragons cut it to 4 the Hawks would build it back to 8 or 10. Largest lead was 12 on 2 occasions and 64-54 was the final.

Matt Devine had a double-double for New Paltz with 17 points and 12 rebounds. Harris Wichard was the game's leading scorer with 18 points while Shereef Taylor added 11 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists.

Cortland was led by John Connolly with 13 pts and 8 rebounds. Jesse Winter chipped in with 12 points.

Both teams suffered through a poor night shooting especially from long range as New Paltz was 4x19 and Cortland was 3x17 from behind the arc.       

New Paltz heads west to take on Geneseo and then Brockport this weekend. Cortland looks to break into the conference win column this weekend when they host Plattsburgh, then Potsdam.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2011, 08:20:02 PM
Four games on tap tonight and they all offer live stats.

Plattsburgh at Cortland     Card's 1st conference road game. Should win this one by a comfortable margin.
Live stats link:  http://www.cortland.edu/athletics/mbasketball/live/xlive.htm

Potsdam at Oswego          Lakers will not lose 2 in a row and Bears have trouble winning on the road. Oswego by at least a dozen, but I hope I'm wrong.
Live stats link:  http://www.sidearmstats.com/oswego/mbball/index.htm

New Paltz at Geneseo     I've seen both teams play and New Paltz is better. Hawks should win this game but Geneseo is trying to avoid an 0-4 conference start. Hawks win a close one though.
Live stats link: http://www.geneseo.edu/athletics/blue-knight-live-stats

Oneonta at Brockport        If Brockport plays like they did at Plattsburgh last Saturday they win by 10. If they play like they did against Potsdam last Friday they lose by 10. I think the Golden Eagles at home will be too tough for Oneonta and the Red Dragons will have a short stay atop the SUNYAC rankings. Eagles by 5.
Live stats link:  http://www.sidearmstats.com/brockport/mbball/xplays1.htm

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2011, 10:19:14 PM
4 for 4 with my picks tonight and the margins of victory were about what I expected. About time things went as planned.  :D

Plattsburgh State gains the road win as they defeat Cortland 69-57.

Oswego State keeps pace with the Cards as they down Potsdam 73-60 and head into tomorrow afternoon's showdown with Plattsburgh. They are both sporting 4-1 records and are tied for 1st place.

Brockport comes back from a 12 point deficit to edge Oneonta 61-57.

New Paltz also wins on the road as they take down Geneseo 78-69.

Here are the updated standings:

1.   Plattsburgh  4-1
1.   Oswego       4-1
3.   Brockport     3-1
4.   New Paltz     4-2
4.   Oneonta       4-2
6.   Potsdam       3-2
7.   Buffalo St.     2-3
8.   Fredonia       1-4
9.   Geneseo       0-4
10. Cortland        0-5
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2011, 12:56:37 AM
Saturday Jan 15th games. All games start at 4 PM

Plattsburgh @ Oswego        I believe one of these teams will win the regular season crown. And being the homer I am I think it will be Plattsburgh. Plattsburgh won both meetings last year and Oswego has made big strides since then but the Cardinals still have all the parts that saw them win at home 88-80 and in Oswego 81-66. More of the same this year, just a little closer. 75-71 Cards.

Potsdam  @ Cortland       Cortland still looking for their 1st conference win of the season. Potsdam hasn't won a conference road game in almost 2 years. Red Dragons win a close one 72-68

New Paltz  @ Brockport     Toughest call of the weekend games. New Paltz is averaging more ppg.  Port is giving up fewer ppg.  I'll go with the defense and the Golden Eagles 68- 65.

Oneonta  @ Geneseo        Other Red Dragons get back into the win column as Blue Knights find it's lonely at the bottom. Oneonta 82-74.

Live stats are available for all 4 games. Links to them can be found in yesterdays post.       
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2011, 04:01:42 AM
Plattsburgh and Cortland played a close 1st period with the Cardinals gaining a 4 point advantage heading into halftime up 30-26. Plattsburgh's Ketama Brooks opened the 2nd half scoring with a 3 pointer to make it a 7 point lead but Cortland came right back and closed to within 2 at 33-31. That was as close as the Red Dragons would get however and they quickly found themselves down by 12 at the 14:09 mark as the Cardinals used a 13-3 run to gain the upper hand. Cortland was behind by double digits for the rest of the game except for a brief moment when they cut it to 8 with 1:39 to play. Plattsburgh responded with 2 quick buckets and some free throws to build it to 15 before coasting to the final of 69-57.

Cardinals had 3 players in double figures led by their All American candidate Chris Ruiz with 16 pts (5x12 fg, 4x6 3's 2x2 ft).  Steve Thomas had 13 points with 4 steals, and Errol Daniyan had 10 points with 8 rebounds and 3 blocks. Point guard Ketama Brooks added 5 points and 6 assists. Freshman Shavar Fields came off the bench to score 8 points and grab 8 rebounds in 13 minutes of play, all season highs for him.  Cards shot 24x52 from the field (46.2%), 8x16 from long distance (50%) and 13 x20 from the line (65%). They had 35 rebounds to Cortland's 34 and 13 turnovers to 14 for the Red Dragons.

Cortland was led by Jesse Winter, who matched Ruiz with 16 points (6x12 fg, 3x4 3's, 1x3 ft). John Connolly had 11 points and Jeremy Smith added 10. Cortland got outshot by the Cardinals in all 3 areas as they went 19x54 (35.2%) from the field, 7x17 from behind the arc (41.2%) and 12x21 from the stripe (57.1%).


   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 15, 2011, 09:22:52 AM
Magic--I like your picks specially my Eagles! Hopefully they have found their stride and have the right rotations to stay competitive. New Paltz does put up some points so it will be very interesting to see if defense prevails. Like I said last weekend the road does some interesting things to teams. Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde routine!!! Get Em Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2011, 05:08:35 PM
Halftime scores:

Plattsburgh 33 Oswego 32

Brockport 45 New Paltz 19

Cortland 37  Potsdam 28

Geneseo 38  Oneonta 28
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2011, 06:35:41 PM
Final scores from today's games:

Brockport  83 New Paltz 63

Oswego 72 Plattsburgh 65

Geneseo 79 Oneonta 73

Cortland 70  Potsdam 58


Updated standings:

1.   Oswego         5-1
2.   Brockport       4-1
3.   Plattsburgh    4-2
4.   New Paltz       4-3
4.   Oneonta         4-3
6.   Potsdam         3-3
7.   Buffalo St.       2-3
8.   Fredonia         1-4
8.   Geneseo         1-4
10. Cortland          1-5         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2011, 06:11:49 AM
New Top 25 Poll is out and Ithaca took a slight dip as they fall from the 20th to the 22nd spot. Their point total dropped from 76 last week to 59 for this week. Plattsburgh State has fall completely out of the poll and NYU has also tumbled almost out of sight as they only receive 1 point this week after holding down the 25th spot last week. No other East region team recieved a single point. Should Ithaca suffer 1 or 2 more losses they will surely drop off the list and I don't think there will be any East team to replace them.  Ther are no 1 or 2 loss teams left in the region. About the only way another East team will get any recognition would be if they go on an extended winning streak and maybe in the last several weeks of the poll a 21-4 or 20-5 team may get some support. Especially with so many teams in the bottom 10 spots changing so frequently due to multiple losses. Here's the link to the complete Top 25:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2010-11/week7#
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
  magicman... In your humble opinion..why is Ithaca is ranked and Oswego is not? They both have 3 losses...Oswego beat Ithaca by 12 at Ithaca and Oswego recently beat Plattsburgh  :( ( sorry about that reminder) which was ranked for a considerable amount of time.

 Also is there anyway to find a teams strength of schedule???

With roughly a 3rd of the SUNYAC schedule completed, a prediction for the WESTERN NEW YORK brackett of SUNYAC tonite!

Bengals 85-Geneseo 67
Brockport 77-Fredonia 66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2011, 05:44:53 PM

Been awhile .......slowly getting there. Nice to see Magic on the ball, as usual, along with other regulars ......

Believe setbacks to St. Lawrence and Oneonta haven't helped Oswego ranking cause. Those coming after nice, but early, beating of IC

Bigger question from this corner is why Buff State isn't more of a major force. We look at personnel and say wow!! Can't quite win over the good foes. Of course, Pburgh hasn't exactly lived up to reputation, either, but Cards have played rugged slate. Oswego w/Burridge getting it done.  Oneonta lurking along with the decent Port.

And from the bottom feeders ......one has to be the eighth playoff seed. Not discounting our Corts even with last season All-SUNYAC D. Marshall no longer on roster and impact frosh K. McMahon currently sidelined for whatever .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 18, 2011, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
 magicman... In your humble opinion..why is Ithaca is ranked and Oswego is not? They both have 3 losses...Oswego beat Ithaca by 12 at Ithaca and Oswego recently beat Plattsburgh  :( ( sorry about that reminder) which was ranked for a considerable amount of time.

 Also is there anyway to find a teams strength of schedule???

With roughly a 3rd of the SUNYAC schedule completed, a prediction for the WESTERN NEW YORK brackett of SUNYAC tonite!

Bengals 85-Geneseo 67
Brockport 77-Fredonia 66

You might find what you're looking for here:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&yr=2011&sub=NCAA%20III&mid=1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2011, 06:35:34 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
 magicman... In your humble opinion..why is Ithaca is ranked and Oswego is not? They both have 3 losses...Oswego beat Ithaca by 12 at Ithaca and Oswego recently beat Plattsburgh  :( ( sorry about that reminder) which was ranked for a considerable amount of time.

Bengalsrule,
jdex has already given you a major reason why Oswego isn't ranked. Both of those losses were to teams that had pretty bad records at the time of the loss. St. Lawrence was only 3-6 and Oneonta was 4-7. The timing of Oswego's losses also played a big factor as I'll try to explain. The Top 25 poll for week 4 was through games of 12-19-10. Oswego had a 6-1 record and no reason to be getting any national attention. The next poll wasn't done until 2 weeks later because of the holidays and Oswego was idle, so a 6-1 record wasn't as noticeable to the voters when plenty of teams had played  much heavier schedules. Many schools took trips to the warmer climates or participated in holiday tournaments and most of the ranked schools (19 of 25) had played from 10 to 13 games.  Only Plattsburgh State with a 6-1 record was in the week 5 Top 25 poll with as few as 7 games played and they were slowly sinking as they had been idle for 30 days. Oswego finally plays a game on January 5th and that was the loss to St. Lawrence, followed by the win over Cortland. The week 6 poll was through games of January 9th and the voters aren't going to replace a team in the top 25 with a team that has just went 1-1 since the last poll. Had they won both of those games to go to 8-1, I think they would have recieved some support and been listed under "other receiving votes".  The week 7 poll (the current one) is for games of January 10th through the 16th. Again the Lakers lose this time to a 4-7 Oneonta team on the 11th, and the voters once again look elsewhere. If Oswego had been receving some support earlier, a 2-1 week, which is what they had, with a win over Plattsburgh, might have kept them in the ORV category and still on people's radar.  Ithaca got into the Top 25 at just the right time. They were coming off 9 wins in a row, had just beaten a top rival St John Fisher, and had put up between 94 and 107 points on the board in 7 straight games. Both of their losses were early in the season and both teams that beat them were decent teams. (Oswego was 7-2, and Penn St.-Behrend was 11-1 at the time Ithaca first appeared in the Top 25.) For all of those reasons they got the attention of the voters who are looking for  other teams to rank, when the ones in the lower part of the poll that are ranked, aren't performing well enough to keep their ranking.  As it is, like I mentioned in my earlier post, it will take a nice winning streak, before any other team in the East region, gets some love in the polls. Hope this gives you some insight as to why Oswego isn't getting the attention that Ithaca is, despite the Bomber loss to the Lakers.

Ethelred has given you the link to the Massey ratings which is where I would have sent you as well. They are helpful but they are somewhat biased toward certain conferences, which kind of skews the strength of schedule figures a bit.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2011, 06:45:15 AM
Quote from: jdex on January 18, 2011, 05:44:53 PM

Been awhile .......slowly getting there. Nice to see Magic on the ball, as usual, along with other regulars ......

Believe setbacks to St. Lawrence and Oneonta haven't helped Oswego ranking cause. Those coming after nice, but early, beating of IC

Bigger question from this corner is why Buff State isn't more of a major force. We look at personnel and say wow!! Can't quite win over the good foes. Of course, Pburgh hasn't exactly lived up to reputation, either, but Cards have played rugged slate. Oswego w/Burridge getting it done.  Oneonta lurking along with the decent Port.

And from the bottom feeders ......one has to be the eighth playoff seed. Not discounting our Corts even with last season All-SUNYAC D. Marshall no longer on roster and impact frosh K. McMahon currently sidelined for whatever .....

Well it is certainly good to see you have returned. I was getting worried about you. I hope the problems you spoke of earlier were not health related to you personally. Although it's just as bad if it's a loved one. Please PM me if you wish to discuss it.
Hopefully you can infuse some good luck into your Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2011, 07:53:56 AM
They must have been sprinting up and down the floor in Buffalo tonight as the Bengals outrun the Geneseo Blue Knights 112-104. I think the 216 points scored might hold up as the highest total in a SUNYAC game this season.

Bengals led for most of the game jumping out to an 11 point advantage midway through the first half but Geneseo came back to within 1 at 38-37 with 4:29 left in the period. Buffalo St. went back up by 13 and settled for a 10 point lead at the break. While the Bengals never lost the lead again they couldn't quite put the game away despite leading by as much as 17 points on several ocassions, the last time with 8:15 to play. Geneseo came back from that deficit to close to within 2 possessions at 95-89 with 3:14 remaining, but Bengals went 7x10 at the line and hit their last 4 field goal attempts to close out the game.       

Buffalo St had 5 guys score in double figures led by Jake Simmons and Glenroy Carr with 20 apiece. Simmons was 7x16 fg, 3x10 3's and 3x4 from the line with 3 assists and 3 steals in 37 minutes. Carr had a double-double as he grabbed 10 rebounds to go with his 20 points (9x12 fg, 2x3 ft). Both Justin Mitchell (7x8 fg, 3x8 ft) and T.O. Jackson (7x11 fg, 3x3 ft) had 17 points each with Jackson also getting a double-double as he had 10 boards. Chris Cartwright added 16 points (4x11 fg, 3x8 3's, 5x6 ft) and 8 assists. Bengals shot 55.4% from the field (41x74) but only 28.6% from long distance (6x21) and 64.9% (24x37) from the line.  They beat the Blue knights off the glass with a 42-31 edge but did have 21 turnovers to 18 for Geneseo.

Blue Knights got a huge game from Jordan Jones, the game's leading scorer with 34 points (13x19 fg, 8x12ft), 8 rebounds, 2 assists, and 3 steals in 33 minutes. Mike Hoy, with another solid outing had 23 points (8x11 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x8 ft), 4 assists and 4 steals. Abe Miller had 14 points (7x13 fg) and Connor Fedge was almost perfect with 11 points (4x4 fg, 3x4 ft). Geneseo had an excellent night shooting the rock from the field as they were 41x65 (63.1%). They only took 3 shots from behind the arc all night and made 1 of them. Can't remember when I saw a statistic for 3 point attempts that low. Blue Knights shot better from the field than the free throw line as they hit only 60% from the line (21x35).

Buffalo State improves to 3-3 in the conference and 8-4 overall. They are tied with Potsdam for 6th place and will look to move ahead of the Bears as they take them on this Friday evening in Potsdam at 8 PM. Then they head on over to Plattsburgh to renew their battles with the Cardinals. Last year they split with Plattsburgh with each team winning on their home court. Bengals won an overtime battle in Buffalo 90-87 and the Cardinals won in Plattsburgh 88-86 on a Steve Thomas midair putback at the buzzer.

Geneseo drops to 1-5 in conference play and 7-6 overall they are now tied with Cortland for 9th place in the SUNYAC standings. Geneseo will try and break that tie with Cortland this weekend as they host Oswego on Friday night at 8 PM and Cortland on Saturday afternoon at 4PM. With Fredonia's upset of Brockport on Tuesday evening the race for the 8th and final playoff spot just got a little tougher for both the Blue Knights and the Red Dragons.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2011, 11:11:11 AM
Brockport traveled to Fredonia looking to move into a 1st place tie with Oswego for the SUNYAC lead. The Blue Devils had other ideas though and after falling behind 38-31 at the half came storming out of the break, outscoring the Eagles 25-11 after the 1st 9 minutes of play to turn that 7 point deficit into a 7 point advantage. After that, Brockport never got closer than a 2 possession margin. After cutting a 10 point lead down to 5 at 73-68, with 2:43 left to play, the Eagles failed to score another point, as they either misfired or turned the ball over in their final 5 attempts. The Blue Devils increased their lead until the final score of 82-68 was the largest advantage of the game by either team.

Devils had 4 players reach double figures topped by a big game from Joseph Monahan who led all scorers with 26 points (9x15 fg, 3x6 3's, 5x5 ft). Branden McKenney had 16 pts (6x8 fg, 1x1 3's, 3x3 ft), and Adam Smith had 14 pts with 8 rebounds. Damien Goodwin added 14 points. Blue Devils shot 55.4%(31x56) from the field, 42.9% (6x14) from 3 point land and 60.9% (14x23) from the foul line. Fredonia won the rebounding battle 35-25 and both teams committed 14 turnovers.

Brockport's leading scorer was Kyheem Green with 21 points (7x14 fg, 1x4 3's, 6x7 ft). John Ivy added 13 and Gerald Williams had 11. Eagles shot 45.2% (19x42) from the field, 26.7% (4x15) and 81.3% (26x32).

Fredonia opens up a little breathing room for the 8th and final playoff spot as they go to 2-4 in SUNYAC play (3-7 overall) and are now a full game up on Geneseo and Cortland. This weekend they head north to play Plattsburgh on Friday night at 8 PM and then travel to Potsdam for a Saturday afternoon 4PM game

Eagles fall to 4-2 in the conference and are tied for 2nd with Plattsburgh. They also drop below .500, to 6-7, and see their 3 game win streak come to an end.
Next up they host Cortland on Friday night at 8 PM followed by a visit from top ranked Oswego on Saturday afternoon at 4 PM. This will be the game of the week in the YAC.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 19, 2011, 07:53:56 AM
They must have been sprinting up and down the floor in Buffalo tonight as the Bengals outrun the Geneseo Blue Knights 112-104. I think the 216 points scored might hold up as the highest total in a SUNYAC game this season.

"Sprinting up and down" and not playing DEFENSE!!! 120 points scored in the 2nd half alone by both teams. Heck, my  beloved BENGALS held Fredonia to 54 for the entire game last Tuesday and then give up 61 in 1 half (2nd) to Geneseo! ???. Trust me when I tell you that Coach Ansari will not see another defensive performance like that in 2011! >:( .

  This was probably the eye opener we needed before we head to the North country this weekend to face Potsdam and your BELOVED Cardinals! Good we got this 1 out of our system! : ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 18, 2011, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
   Also is there anyway to find a teams strength of schedule???

You might find what you're looking for here:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&yr=2011&sub=NCAA%20III&mid=1

Thanks Ethelred ;)


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2011, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 19, 2011, 06:35:34 AM
Bengalsrule,
Ethelred has given you the link to the Massey ratings which is where I would have sent you as well. They are helpful but they are somewhat biased toward certain conferences, which kind of skews the strength of schedule figures a bit.     

I see exactly what you mean Magicman >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 19, 2011, 03:22:06 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 18, 2011, 06:29:24 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
   Also is there anyway to find a teams strength of schedule???

You might find what you're looking for here:

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&yr=2011&sub=NCAA%20III&mid=1

Thanks Ethelred ;)




I followed my own advise and spent some time at Massey last night.  It was interesting to go back and check schedules from years past.  U of r played Central Mich for 3 years in the late 90's as well as U Buffalo.  Schedule was peppered with a lot more out of area teams.  I suspect the reduction in that kind of schedule would be due to the requirements of UAA travel.  Also fun to look at Utica's schedule when they were D1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2011, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 18, 2011, 05:44:53 PM
Bigger question from this corner is why Buff State isn't more of a major force. We look at personnel and say wow!! Can't quite win over the good foes.

Jdex... those of us who love the BENGALS say the same thing from time to time.... ???. I do believe in my heart  that the BEST is YET To COME with my beloved BENGALS. Undoubtly, IMHO, the BENGALS are the most talented team in the SUNYAC! But just like the Miami Heat have had to find the right mix... the BENGALS are going through the same thing. Figuring out the right chemistry coupled with some injuries has been the main drawback.

  Today is the midpoint of the BENGALS season and at 8-4 the future looks brighter than the past. T. O. Jackson has worked himself back into shape after being injured for over a month. Newcomer Chris Cartwright has found his niche within the team and Captains Glenroy Carr and Norman Simmons are starting to show the league why they are BENGAL captains. Having a healthy Jake Simmons, who is just about recovered from minor surgery, will also be a big plus .  :D. Soph - Justin Mitchell (SUNYAC #2 Shot blocker) is on the cusp of being a ALL SUNYAC ball player!(remember you heard that here first!!!). And a bench led by Junior-Ahmed Nagaya, Frosh - Nico Mclean, Sophomore(s) - Seth Runge and "Ant" Hamer... is starting to pay big dividends,

  It is my hope is that this weekend (in the North Country vs. Potsdam/Plattsburgh) and next weekend (in Central New York vs. Oswego/Cortland) the BENGALS will begin to show thier true form!

JDEX...Come SUNYAC playoff time I truely believe that you will see the BENGALS team that you expected to see by now!

Quote me ! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2011, 02:41:42 AM
Chad Burridge a Jr. forward from Oswego State received multiple honors recently for his outstanding play over the past several weeks.

Chad was named to the D3hoops.com Team of the Week for the 2nd consecutive week.

Week 7 ending Jan.15th
Burridge averaged 20.3 points in a week to help Oswego State move into sole possession of first place in the SUNYAC standings. In a 75-73 double-overtime loss at Oneonta, Burridge scored 27 points on 55 percent shooting and grabbed 11 rebounds.  He posted another double-double in the Lakers' 73-60 win over Potsdam with 12 points and 11 rebounds.  Burridge ended the week with a 22-point performance against Plattsburgh in a 72-65 win.

Week 6 ending Jan. 8th
Burridge averaged 20.0 points in two games this week as the Lakers went 1-1. He scored a game-high 19 points vs. St. Lawrence and a game-high 21 against Cortland. In the win against the Red Dragons, Burridge became the 15th player in Oswego State men's basketball history to score 1,000 career points. Burridge also tallied 11 rebounds and three blocks vs. Cortland to help the Lakers remain the only unbeaten team in SUNYAC play.

Burridge was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending Jan. 16th.

Chad was also chosen as the Player of the Week for the ECAC-Upstate Region for the period ending Jan. 16th.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2011, 01:16:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 20, 2011, 02:41:42 AM
Chad Burridge a Jr. forward from Oswego State received multiple honors recently for his outstanding play over the past several weeks.

Chad was named to the D3hoops.com Team of the Week for the 2nd consecutive week.


That's quite a honor for Chad/Oswego! D3 team 2 weeks in a row and no other SUNYAC player has gotten it once.
Has a SUNYAC player ever gotten that honor?

P. S. Magicman. Will you be in Memorial hall  this Saturday afternoon  around hmmmmm  4 p.m.?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2011, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2011, 01:16:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 20, 2011, 02:41:42 AM
Chad Burridge a Jr. forward from Oswego State received multiple honors recently for his outstanding play over the past several weeks.

Chad was named to the D3hoops.com Team of the Week for the 2nd consecutive week.


That's quite a honor for Chad/Oswego! D3 team 2 weeks in a row and no other SUNYAC player has gotten it once.
Has a SUNYAC player ever gotten that honor?

P. S. Magicman. Will you be in Memorial hall  this Saturday afternoon  around hmmmmm  4 p.m.?


Bengalsrule,
If a decent Buffalo State team shows up I plan to be there. :D  The way I look at this game is that the Bengals are the favorites and Plattsburgh is the underdog. After all, Buff State did beat Elms on a neutral court, and we couldn't beat them  on our home court. ;D  Are you planning to make the trip? I believe back in December I heard some rumblings from you about traveling to Plattsburgh for the game. ???

I think Plattsburgh's Anthony Williams and/or Travis Gorham made the D3hoops team of the Week a few years ago and I know current Cardinal, Carl Munnerlyn, made it last year.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 20, 2011, 10:32:52 PM
Great to be back online.  Shout out to magic and others.  Happy to see the Lakers doing well. 2 OT loss and 1 point loss to SLU keeping them out of the rankings it would appear.  I am very happy for coach Stockwell.  I really respected the guy when he coached the Golden Knights up north and he has obviously has a potential All-American in Burridge.  The guy can play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2011, 06:47:19 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 20, 2011, 10:32:52 PM
Great to be back online.  Shout out to magic and others.  Happy to see the Lakers doing well. 2 OT loss and 1 point loss to SLU keeping them out of the rankings it would appear.  I am very happy for coach Stockwell.  I really respected the guy when he coached the Golden Knights up north and he has obviously has a potential All-American in Burridge.  The guy can play.

And out of the clear blue of the western sky comes "with age". Saw you made a comment on the LL board as well. You need to spend more time here. I miss your imput. Just cause your boy is done playing doesn't mean you have to ignore us. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 21, 2011, 10:42:40 AM
Welcome back Age.

I see that the weatherman has a fine North Country greeting for our western NY Invaders.  Temps dropping rapidly, low tonite around 0, Daytime hi tomorrow in the single digits, and overnite low Saturday in the minus teens.  Should be a fun return trip Saturday evening through the Watertown-Rochester Snow Belt with those temps.

We have the full spectrum of events in Maxcy Hall this weekend, Swimming, M&W BB, and Men's Hockey Tonight, M&W BB and M&W Hockey tomorrow.  Should be a busy place, but students are just starting to return now.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 21, 2011, 10:42:40 AM

I see that the weatherman has a fine North Country greeting for our western NY Invaders.  Temps dropping rapidly, low tonite around 0, Daytime hi tomorrow in the single digits, and overnite low Saturday in the minus teens.  Should be a fun return trip Saturday evening through the Watertown-Rochester Snow Belt with those temps.


Wow..sounds like a heat wave up there Bear (compared to Standard Buffalo weather)! Should I bring some marshmellows for roasting this evening? :D Hopefully the BENGALS can turn up the heat and Potsdam is a little more hospital to these "WNY Invaders" than they were to Geneseo and Brockport when they visited the "north country" 2 weekends ago! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 21, 2011, 02:51:58 PM
Actually being a Buffalo native, have to say Buffalo has more snow, BUT Potsdam is MUCH Colder, plus you have to drive through 200 miles of Lake Effect to get here.

My Dad was Buff State '50.

Wish both teams well, but would like my Bears to continue to protect the house.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
Glad to hear the Buffalo Connection. Expecting some COOOLLLLLDDDD weather tonite in POTSDAM? Will you be at the game Bear?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2011, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
Glad to hear the Buffalo Connection. Expecting some COOOLLLLLDDDD weather tonite in POTSDAM? Will you be at the game Bear?

Bengalsrule,
What am I chopped liver? I'm still waiting for the answer to my question from yesterday. Are you coming up north this weekend? I see hints that you are but nothing
that definitively says, I will be there. ???

Since you're posting at 3:14 PM in Buffalo,I assume, I don't think you'll be making an 8 PM tipoff in Potsdam. Wimped out it looks like. :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2011, 04:27:11 PM
Full slate of games on tap for tonight.

Oneonta State   @   New Paltz State      8:00 PM
These Red Dragons and the Hawks duke it out for sole possession of 4th place and a chance for the winner to move into sole possession of 2nd place if both Plattsburgh and Brockport lose. Oneonta, with only 1 road win all year, is tough to pick so I'll take New Paltz 80-75  
 
Cortland State   @   Brockport State      8:00 PM
The other Red Dragons have shown they can win on the road,  but the wins have been few and far between. Now with the loss of 2 double digit scorers, the odds of Cortland making the playoffs just got longer. Golden Eagles win tonight 73-64      
 
Buffalo State   @   Potsdam State      8:00 PM
Winner of this game moves up a notch in the pecking order. This is a Buff State team that has to start playing up to it's potential sometime. Team should have at the most 1 loss. Too much talent here for the Bears to handle. Hope I'm wrong but think the Bengals sleep well tonight with an 79-72 victory.    
 
Fredonia State   @   Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM
Cardinals are another team that hasn't met expectations. Both losses in the conference were a result of poor 2nd half play and the inability to come back from single digit deficits. The big shotmakers aren't hitting the big shots. Plattsburgh needs 2 W's this weekend if they hope to stay with Oswego and keep their hopes alive for home court advantage in the playoffs. Blue Devils yet to log a road win. Cards 85-71.    
 
Oswego State   @   Geneseo State      8:00 PM
Lakers have to avoid looking ahead to Brockport game tomorrow. Geneseo looking to gain a playoff spot. Blue Knights will have to keep looking though because Burridge and company will be too much handle. Oswego wins 74-61.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2011, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
Glad to hear the Buffalo Connection. Expecting some COOOLLLLLDDDD weather tonite in POTSDAM? Will you be at the game Bear?

Bengalsrule,
What am I chopped liver? I'm still waiting for the answer to my question from yesterday. Are you coming up north this weekend? I see hints that you are but nothing
that definitively says, I will be there. ???

Since you're posting at 3:14 PM in Buffalo,I assume, I don't think you'll be making an 8 PM tipoff in Potsdam. Wimped out it looks like. :o

Never chopped liver, but hopefully barbequed Cardinal :D. Just pulled out from The Ponderosa on Arsenal Road in Watertown. I wouldn't miss tonites, or tommorrow nights, game for the world. C u, or the Bear, soon???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2011, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 05:38:24 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2011, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 03:14:11 PM
Glad to hear the Buffalo Connection. Expecting some COOOLLLLLDDDD weather tonite in POTSDAM? Will you be at the game Bear?

Bengalsrule,
What am I chopped liver? I'm still waiting for the answer to my question from yesterday. Are you coming up north this weekend? I see hints that you are but nothing
that definitively says, I will be there. ???

Since you're posting at 3:14 PM in Buffalo,I assume, I don't think you'll be making an 8 PM tipoff in Potsdam. Wimped out it looks like. :o

Never chopped liver, but hopefully barbequed Cardinal :D. Just pulled out from The Ponderosa on Arsenal Road in Watertown. I wouldn't miss tonites, or tommorrow nights, game for the world. C u, or the Bear, soon???


No kidding! You're right on time. Should put you in Potsdam right about 7:30. Watertown is my old stomping grounds. Born and raised in that area and lived there for 2 years in the early 70's.  Tomorrow afternoon go to the Cardinals bench and look up to the very top row. I'll wear my red Saratoga hat so I'll be easy to spot. I 'll probably get there early and catch the 2nd half of the women's game. College still not in session so the crowd won't be more than a couple of hundred for the men's game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2011, 07:05:44 PM

Bengalsrule,
When you get to the Potsdam gym go to the scorers table and ask for the bear. He may be working the women's game. Or somebody there can direct you to his seat. I believe he always sits in the same spot. Us old farts are creatures of habit.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2011, 09:58:53 PM

Brockport erases 35-34 Cortland halftime lead and wins 81-73. Begins gaining control midway through second half. K. Green 29 pts(12x16fg), 12 rebs; G. Williams 25 pts(6x13fg, 5x9 3s). Port 27x53fg, 8x19 3s. Young Corts led by soph J. Smith 28 pts(10x21fg, 3x7 3s). Has 17 at half. Fr J. Connelly 15 pts(6x9fg), 5 rebs. K. McMahon returns with 7 pts off bench

Plattsburgh holds off stubborn Fredonia 64-58. Cards 32-31 at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2011, 10:15:35 PM

Oswego all over Geneseo 93-76. C. Burridge 15 pts in 24', 2pf leads five Lakers scoring double figures. A. Miller's 20 pts(9x14fg, 2x9ft) lead Gens. Oswego 41-31 at intermission

Buffalo State ekes out 83-81 win at Potsdam

New Paltz downs Oneonta 78-68. D. Olsen 24 pts(9x11fg), 4blks, 8 rebs. RDragon D. Hahn 9 rebs, S. Gillette 20 pts

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 21, 2011, 10:19:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2011, 07:05:44 PM

Bengalsrule,
When you get to the Potsdam gym go to the scorers table and ask for the bear. He may be working the women's game. Or somebody there can direct you to his seat. I believe he always sits in the same spot. Us old farts are creatures of habit.

Alas - I left halfway through the women's game.  Wife wasn't feeling well, I am still jet lagged from 10 days in California, and since I didn't have to work tonight, I went home to keep an eye on her.  Will be the statcrew spotter tomorrow afternoon

Did follow on livestats, Barnburner of a game.  Bears still undersized, and playing 2 freshman at the five, but they can compete with any team in the league.  
Wish they could control their turnovers, as that would take some of the pressure off of Pierce and Williams on the boards.  Pierce (6'2") is averaging 8.5 rpg and williams (6'0") grabs 7.5.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2011, 11:08:12 PM
Sorry I missed you Bear. When I arrived i immediatly asked a rather hefty fello, who was the announcer for the mens game, if he knew thebear. He proudly responded yes. He looked behind himself into the bleachers and assumed that you were watching the hockey game vs. Brockport. I must admit that Mackey hall is quite the sportscomplex.

Great game! Potsdam hit a 3 with less than 2 seconds for the final margin!

I'll be looking towards the last row tommorrow around 4pm! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2011, 11:14:43 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 21, 2011, 09:58:53 PM
Plattsburgh holds off stubborn Fredonia 64-58. Cards 32-31 at half

Stubborn Fredonia is right. With 2:30 left to play Cards were only up 57-55. A Carl Munnerlyn layup gave the Cards a 4 point lead 7 seconds later and the key play of the game was a steal by Errol Daniyan on Fredonia's next possession. As he is headed for an easy basket he is grabbed from behind by the jersey and official calls an intentional foul. Daniyan would miss both free throws but Cards get the rebound and 10 seconds later Daniyan makes a layup off a Munnerlyn feed to give Plattsburgh a 61-55 lead with 1:11 to go. Teams trade free throws and Fredonia misfires on next 2 field goal attempts. Cards miss 2 more foul shots with 21 seconds remaining and after a Fredonia miss, Cards get a breakaway basket to make it 64-56. Blue Devils get a final basket at the buzzer.

Plattsburgh was led by Chris Ruiz with 15 points (4x11 fg, 3x5 3's, 4x6 ft). Ruiz and Fredonia's Jonathan Herrera who also had 15 points(6x11 fg, 3x6 3.s) were the game's leading scorers. Carl Munnerlyn had 13 points(4x8 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x4 ft) and  Steve Thomas added 11 for the Cardinals .
Fredonia, in addition to Herrera, got 13 points from Brandon McKenny(5x12 fg, 3x5 ft), 12 points from Adam Smith(6x9 fg) and 11 points from Damien Goodwin(5x8 fg, 1x3 ft).  

Both teams shot ok from the field and from long range. Cards were 43.8% (21x48)  and 41.2% (7x17) from behind the arc. Fredonia was 46.3% (25x54) from the field and 31.3%% (5x16) from long distance. Missed free throws hurt both teams as Fredonia was only 3x9 while Plattsburgh was 15x26. Cards won the rebound battle 34-28 and turnovers were about equal as Fredonia had 14 to the Cards 15.  

Bengalsrule, that would be Maxcy Hall and yes it's one of the better places to play in the SUNYAC. I'll see you tommorow.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 21, 2011, 11:20:08 PM
Great to be back guys.  Looks like there may have been "some heat" in Potsdam but it certainly wasn't from my Knights.  If they do not get their act together soon I'll have to take up the "Laker Mantle" on this board (as I see they won handily tonight).  Seems like Bengal's rule  must be happy he made the trip.  2 point wins are always fun!!  Say hello in person to the Magicman for me tomorrow!  However if Buff St only won by 2 over the bears I think they are in trouble against the cards!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2011, 07:29:31 AM
Five for Five with my picks Friday night and pretty close margins of victory in most of them.

Had Brockport winning by 9 and they won by 8.

Had Oswego winning by 13 and they won by 17.

Had New Paltz winning by 5. They were up 73-68 with a minute to go. They made 3 trips to the line and scored 5 more points in that final minute. Oneonta came up empty in their last 3 possessions, making the final 78-68.

Had Buffalo St winning by 7 and a meaningless 3 pointer at the buzzer cut it from 5 to 2.

Had Plattsburgh winning by 14. Cards were up 8 and missed 6 of 7 free throws in final 1:20.

Probably can't get lucky 2 nights in a row but here goes. All games tip off at 4 PM
Live stats are available for all 4 games I believe.

Oswego at Brockport  4 PM
Battle for 1st place as Brockport would gain a tiebreak edge if they can get a win here. Don't think they will though, as Lakers finish off a weekend sweep. Oswego takes this one 68-64.

Buffalo State at Plattsburgh
Both teams have been inconsistent, and neither team has played defense well all year. At least not the kind of defense you need to win the conference. I don't think defense will show up this afternoon either, but I sure hope that Plattsburgh's offense does. Of course I'm taking the Cards 87-83.

Cortland  at Geneseo  
Geneseo can't afford to lose a home game to the team it's tied with for last place in the conference. Blue Knights take advantage of a shortened Red Dragon bench and move up a rung 76-71.

Fredonia at Potsdam
Bears have been playing SUNYAC teams tough at home and have beaten better than the Blue Devils. They lose this one and they fall into 8th place. Fredonia hung with Plattsburgh yesterday and if they repeat that effort, could go home with a win. I'll choose the Bears to keep the Blue Devils winless on the road. 72-69        
 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2011, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2011, 07:29:31 AM
Buffalo State at Plattsburgh
Both teams have been inconsistent, and neither team has played defense well all year. At least not the kind of defense you need to win the conference. I don't think defense will show up this afternoon either, but I sure hope that Plattsburgh's offense does. Of course I'm taking the Cards 87-83.
   

For once we agree magic (almost) Score of 87-83 is right  on...but you have the wrong winner! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2011, 05:48:58 PM

Cortland finally puts together solid second half and trims host Geneseo 73-61. Down 33-32 at the half, Corts slowly take charge and up lead to 10 with 2:52 left. Clutch in the stretch. This team's learnin' on the fly for Span. Soph J. Smith completes big weekend with 20 pts(8x17fg). Fr J. Connolly 17 pts, 7 rebs; soph J. Winter 13 pts, 9 assts; soph H. Hefele 10 pts(4x7fg). Fr K. McMahon minutes limited. Dragons 25x52fg, 9x22 3s. Genes 21x57, 15x17ft and 43-26 board edge

Plattsburgh about ready to put away Buff St, whose Bengals in 13 point halftime hole
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2011, 05:51:34 PM

Ooops. Hang on, Magic ........Burg lead one at 1:42
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2011, 06:10:18 PM

WHEW!! Sure Magic will in the blanks .....but Plattsburgh wit gritty 78-76 victory over gritty Buffs who come from 12 back at 8:07 to lead 71-70 on J. Mitchell bucket. Cards S Thomas hits two free throws at 1:42 for reversal. C. Munnerley and C. Ruiz add ft's for the Burg. BS's J. Simmons nails trey at 0:19 to get within 76-75. Munnerley makes two charities at 0:08. Simmons fouled at 0:01 ....but just two shots. Hits one ....clock expires
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2011, 06:12:35 PM

Oswego 74, Brockport 71

Potsdam 78, Fredonia 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 22, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
Congratulations to the Lakers and Coach Stockwell.  Wins in Brockport are always hard to come by especially with first place in the league riding.  A truly important and excellent early conference win.  Magic your percentage of correct guesses this weekend must have been amazing.  I can see only one miss (Cortland win) in all of your predictions (and that includes the LL).  Pretty soon they won't have to play the games - everyone will just let Magicman decide. hehheh ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2011, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 22, 2011, 06:10:18 PM

WHEW!! Sure Magic will in the blanks .....but Plattsburgh wit gritty 78-76 victory over gritty Buffs who come from 12 back at 8:07 to lead 71-70 on J. Mitchell bucket. Cards S Thomas hits two free throws at 1:42 for reversal. C. Munnerley and C. Ruiz add ft's for the Burg. BS's J. Simmons nails trey at 0:19 to get within 76-75. Munnerley makes two charities at 0:08. Simmons fouled at 0:01 ....but just two shots. Hits one ....clock expires

jdex,
Plattsburgh actually got 2 more points. After Carl Munnerlyn hit his 2 foul shots to give the Cards a 3 point 78-75 lead, Plattsburgh wasn't about to let Jake Simmons take another off balance rainbow 3 and tie it up. The Cards fouled him and he went to the line with the strategy to make the 1st and miss the 2nd and hope for a putback. That all changed when he missed the 1st attempt. He makes the 2nd free throw and the Bengals foul Munnerlyn on the inbounds pass with 2 tenths of a second left. Carl makes both of them, to make the final score 80-76. Those were 2 important  points as I had forecast a 4 point Cardinal win. :D ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2011, 10:10:31 PM

Yikes!! We kinda assumed when Live Stats clock read 0:00 that we had a final .........now we now the rest of the story ........until Magic fills in the blanks, and how he held off that closing tick to cover his bets. Amazing!! Yikes!! Talk about clout.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2011, 10:45:10 PM


Oswego win nearly as exhausting. Brockport at half trails 37-31 and goes down by 13 before rally. Bport leads 69-68 on G. Green layup/ft at 1:39. OSt's H. Ward ft pair at 1:21 provides Laker lead. It's Port 71-70 on D. Klein hoop at 0:31. OSt's C. Gilkes connects on two freebies for 72-71 edge at 0:09 followed by Port turnover and two Laker C. Burridge ft's. Pair of Eagle 3-point bids fail. Green with 25 pts(11x18fg); G. Williams 23 pts, 15 over final half. Oswego's Burridge 25 pts(8x16fg) in 32'; H. Ward 19 pts, 16 rebs, 4pf in 27'. Lakers 23x32ft to Port's 11x14

Potsdam rules by 40-27 at midway mark and hikes margin to 19. Fredonia closes to five, fades and gets back to six with 90 ticks to go. Bears' J. McAllister money at the line from there. Goes 9x10ft for the game. A. Williams 16 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assts; R. Duquette 15 pts; C. Pierce 9 rebs, 8 pts. Freds A. Smith nets 30 pts(14x18fg) in 27'

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2011, 11:29:01 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 22, 2011, 10:10:31 PM

Yikes!! We kinda assumed when Live Stats clock read 0:00 that we had a final .........now we now the rest of the story ........until Magic fills in the blanks, and how he held off that closing tick to cover his bets. Amazing!! Yikes!! Talk about clout.

I witnesssed Magicmans clout first hand. Congrats on the victory. Bengals showed some "True Grit" battling back several times from seemingly insurmountable deficits ( i.e down 14 with less than 9 mins  in the game). 28 % from the field was our achilles heel. I'm gonna have to wait till Feb 18th for the rubbermatch!.
Highlight of today was finally meeting the magicman!!!. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2011, 01:05:43 AM
Once again the Bengals and Cardinals didn't disappoint the fans at Memorial Hall this afternoon as they battled right to the end. The early part of the 1st half saw several lead changes and numerous ties until the Cardinals broke loose from a 16-16 tie with an 18-2 run to give them a 34-18 advantage with 5 minutes left in the half. Starter Chris Ruiz, along with reserves Carl Munnerlyn and Josh Bruno all scored 5 points each during that run. With 3 starters in early foul trouble the Plattsburgh bench would prove to be a huge factor in the outcome of the game. Three of Plattsburgh's freshman forwards had major contributions in the 1st period as John Perez had 3 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal in 11 minutes. Shavar Fields managed to score 4 points and played solid defense in 9 minutes, while frosh Reggie Williams scored 4 points, grabbed 3 boards and had 3 blocked shots in 7 minutes on the floor. Considering that the Cardinals 2 starting forwards played a combined 13 minutes and starting guard Steve Thomas only saw 7 minutes of action, for the Cardinals to have any lead much less a 16 point lead was more than could be expected. Bengals came back a bit to cut the lead to 10 but a Perez putback followed by a Bengal turnover (offensive foul) and Bengal technical foul built the lead back to 15 before a Seth Runge bucket cut it to 43-30 going into the break. Ruiz with 11 1st half points and Bruno with 8 led the Cards. Bengals'  Justin Mitchell almost had a double-double in the 1st half with 10 points and 9 boards while Jake Simmons added 7 poiints.

The largest lead of the 2nd half occured 40 seconds into the period as Ketema Brooks scored for the Cards to make it 45-30. Buffalo State then outscores the Cardinals 13-2 as Glenroy Carr scores 7 and Mitchell 4 points to narrow the deficit to 47-43. Plattsburgh's bench comes through again scoring the Cardinals next 16 points, as they regain a double digit lead at 63-49 with 8:28 remainiing. Frosh Shavar Fields was the catalyst with 8 of those points. Jake Simmons and Mitchell would lead the Bengals back however as they scored 13 points in a little over 3 minutes to cut the lead to 1 at 65-64 with 5:07 left to play. Yet again, Munnerlyn comes through for Plattsburgh, as he drains a 3, and then makes 2 free throws to make it 70-66 Cards. 5 unanswered points by the Bengals, the last a layup by Mitchell at the 2:01 mark, gives Buff State a 71-70 edge, for their 1st lead since the game was only 3 minutes old. The lead was short lived though as Cards' Thomas is fouled on the way to the basket and makes both free throws to put Plattsburgh up by 1. Key possession of the game comes with 1:27 left as the  Bengals miss a field goal attempt which results in a foul sending Cards' Munnerlyn to the line. He calmly sinks both to increase Cards lead to 3 and after Bengals only make 1 of 2 on their trip to the line, they foul Chris Ruiz with 26 seconds to play. Ruiz hits them both to give Cards what appears to be a safe 4 point lead, but Jake Simmons with a pair of Plattsburgh defenders on him drains one from long distance to cut it to 1 with 9 ticks left and set up the games final sequences. Munnerlyn is fouled on the inbound pass, hits both of those and the Cards with a 3 point lead foul Jake to prevent the attempt to tie it up. Simmons hits 1 of 2 and Bengals foul Munnerlyn 1 last time. He hits them both to make the final 80-76.

Of the last 33 points Plattsburgh scored, 29 of them came from bench players and 18 of those were scored by Carl Munnerlyn. Carl ended up as the games leading scorer with 23 points(5x12 fg, 3x10 3's) in 29 minutes and was perfect from the line going 10 for 10 with 6 of those in the last 90 seconds. Chris Ruiz scored 13 points(4x14 fg' 1x4, 3's 4x4 ft) in 29 minutes, while Josh Bruno was a perfect 4x4 from the field, and 2x2 from long distance  to total 10 points in 16 minutes. Shavar Fields had a Plattsburgh State career high with 12 points(5x6 fg, 2x3 ft) in 18 minutes. Ketema Brooks added 4 points 6 rebounds and 4 assists while running the point for 35 minutes. On a night when 3 of  Plattsburgh's starters who average 81 minutes combined only played 46 minutes combined, the Cardinal bench chose a great time to shine. Led by Munnerlyn, Fields, and Bruno the bench totaled 53 of the Cardinals 80 points and 14 of their 35 individual rebounds. Cards shot 26x57(45.6%) from the field, 6x17(35'3%) from long range and 22x28(78.6%) from the foul line. They were out rebounded by the Bengals 44-40 and had 21 turnovers to 14 for Buffalo State.

Bengals had three players in double figures led by Justin Mitchell's double-double of 22 points(8x15 fg, 6x6 ft) and 16 rebounds in 36 minutes. Jake Simmons, last year's Rookie of the Year in the YAC, also had 22 points(9x23 fg, 2x10 3's, 2x4 ft), along with 4 rebounds and 3 steals also in 36 minutes. Glenroy Carr added 15 points(4x10 fg, 7x9 ft). Chris Cartwright had a solid all around game with 2 points, 3 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals and a block. Bengals had an off night shooting the rock as they were only 27-74(36'5%) from the field and a woeful 2x16(12.5%) from beyond the arc. They did manage to shoot 80% from the foul line as they were 20 for 25.

Platttsburgh is now off until next weekend when they travel south to take on Oneonta and then New Paltz. Cards are now 6-2 in the conference, 10-5 overall, are in sole possession of 2nd place and remain 1 game behind Oswego.

Buffalo State falls to 4-4 in the SUNYAC and tied for 5th place with Potsdam and Oneonta. Bengals are 9-5 overall and wiil host Brockport on Tuesday the 25th. A win would move them into 4th place and that all important home court advantage for the 1st round of the playoffs.    
     
         


       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2011, 02:44:41 AM
Sorry my Plattsburgh-Buffalo synopsis was posted so late. I wrote it up and hit the post button around 8 PM but it didn't register and I never realized it until I went back to the computer in the wee hours.

It was indeed a pleasure to meet Bengalsrule. It's nice to be able to put a face to a name. I only wish we had more time to chat but I'm hoping for a return visit if and when the Cards host the SUNYAC playoffs. ;) ;D I also didn't make the Jr.-Sr. connection until later when I returned home. 8-) That's a discussion that could last a while. :)

Bengalsrule, I do have 1 very big request though and I'm sure you can pull it off. Next Friday when you play a certain 1st place team in their house make sure they know what payback is like. :D ;D Even if they lose to New Paltz on Tuesday (a distinct possibility) they will still be in 1st place when you take them on. Good luck and hope you end up in 2nd place in the SUNYAC race.   

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 22, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
Congratulations to the Lakers and Coach Stockwell.  Wins in Brockport are always hard to come by especially with first place in the league riding.  A truly important and excellent early conference win.  Magic your percentage of correct guesses this weekend must have been amazing.  I can see only one miss (Cortland win) in all of your predictions (and that includes the LL).  Pretty soon they won't have to play the games - everyone will just let Magicman decide. hehheh ;D

with age,
I did have a good weekend  of prognostication. 12 of 13 between the YAC and the Liberty League. What else is there to do when it reaches 15 below outside. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
Saturday results:

Oswego 74 Brockport 71
They both scored a handful more than my 68-64 guess, but I got the winner and the MOV was pretty close.

Potsdam 78 Fredonia 69
I had the Bears winning 72-69. 4 free throws in a row with 30 seconds left by Bears J. McAllister thanks to a Freds foul and T or I woulda been uncannily close ;D

Plattsburgh 80 Buffalo St. 76
I figured a few more points with my 87-83 score and if those zebras had let em play instead of blowing their whistles every 30 seconds, they would have hit my totals. Worst crew alll year. 50 fouls were called but at least they were evenly split. Needed every tenth of a second to get my 4 point margin of victory and Carl Munnerlyn making those last 2 free throws with 2 tenths of a second on the clock made my day.       Thanks Carl. 8-)

Cortland 73  Geneseo 61
My only miss as I gave the nod to the home team Blue Knights 76-71, but even so I had 3 of the 4 numbers correct- 7--6--1. :D  I Should have listened to jdex when he said not to discount his Cortland team even without 2 key performers.

Oswego and Plattsburgh were only teams to have 2-0 week.  


The updated standings after this weekend's action:

1.   Oswego         7-1
2.   Plattsburgh     6-2
3.   Brockport       5-3      Holds tiebreaker over New Paltz  
4.   New Paltz      5-3      
5.   Oneonta        4-4      Holds tiebreaker over Buff St. and Potsdam
6.   Buffalo St.      4-4      Holds tiebreaker over Potsdam
7.   Potsdam         4-4
8.   Fredonia         2-6      Holds tiebreaker over Cortland
9.   Cortland         2-6
10  Geneseo         1-7
       

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2011, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2011, 02:44:41 AM
It was indeed a pleasure to meet Bengalsrule. It's nice to be able to put a face to a name. I only wish we had more time to chat but I'm hoping for a return visit if and when the Cards host the SUNYAC playoffs. ;) ;D I also didn't make the Jr.-Sr. connection until later when I returned home. 8-) That's a discussion that could last a while. :)
Bengalsrule, I do have 1 very big request though and I'm sure you can pull it off. Next Friday when you play a certain 1st place team in their house make sure they know what payback is like. :D ;D Even if they lose to New Paltz on Tuesday (a distinct possibility) they will still be in 1st place when you take them on. Good luck and hope you end up in 2nd place in the SUNYAC race.     

Magic..this week will truly be the "week of Paybacks". In 2 days we face Brockport which sent us on our merry way last year with a overtime loss in the 1st round of the SUNYACs ( as did Saturdays opponent - Cortland did in 09). Friday nights game vs Oswego will be our first 2010-11 payback for their rude treatment of us at our place last month  (with a overtime loss to them). Hopefully we can pay that kind deed back on Friday.

"Jr.-Sr." I get that a lot ;)

Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 22, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
Congratulations to the Lakers and Coach Stockwell.  Wins in Brockport are always hard to come by especially with first place in the league riding.  A truly important and excellent early conference win.  Magic your percentage of correct guesses this weekend must have been amazing.  I can see only one miss (Cortland win) in all of your predictions (and that includes the LL).  Pretty soon they won't have to play the games - everyone will just let Magicman decide. hehheh ;D

with age,
I did have a good weekend  of prognostication. 12 of 13 between the YAC and the Liberty League. What else is there to do when it reaches 15 below outside. ???

Warning!!! Non SUNYAC question to follow.....I agree with LL, your preditictions have pretty right on. Any thoughts/predictions  about the Bears and/or Steelers today???? (when ur hot...ur hot!!!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2011, 02:59:35 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2011, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2011, 02:44:41 AM
It was indeed a pleasure to meet Bengalsrule. It's nice to be able to put a face to a name. I only wish we had more time to chat but I'm hoping for a return visit if and when the Cards host the SUNYAC playoffs. ;) ;D I also didn't make the Jr.-Sr. connection until later when I returned home. 8-) That's a discussion that could last a while. :)
Bengalsrule, I do have 1 very big request though and I'm sure you can pull it off. Next Friday when you play a certain 1st place team in their house make sure they know what payback is like. :D ;D Even if they lose to New Paltz on Tuesday (a distinct possibility) they will still be in 1st place when you take them on. Good luck and hope you end up in 2nd place in the SUNYAC race.     

Magic..this week will truly be the "week of Paybacks". In 2 days we face Brockport which sent us on our merry way last year with a overtime loss in the 1st round of the SUNYACs ( as did Saturdays opponent - Cortland did in 09). Friday nights game vs Oswego will be our first 2010-11 payback for their rude treatment of us at our place last month  (with a overtime loss to them). Hopefully we can pay that kind deed back on Friday.

"Jr.-Sr." I get that a lot ;)

Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 22, 2011, 06:56:47 PM
Congratulations to the Lakers and Coach Stockwell.  Wins in Brockport are always hard to come by especially with first place in the league riding.  A truly important and excellent early conference win.  Magic your percentage of correct guesses this weekend must have been amazing.  I can see only one miss (Cortland win) in all of your predictions (and that includes the LL).  Pretty soon they won't have to play the games - everyone will just let Magicman decide. hehheh ;D

with age,
I did have a good weekend  of prognostication. 12 of 13 between the YAC and the Liberty League. What else is there to do when it reaches 15 below outside. ???

Warning!!! Non SUNYAC question to follow.....I agree with LL, your preditictions have pretty right on. Any thoughts/predictions  about the Bears and/or Steelers today???? (when ur hot...ur hot!!!)

Nothing like putting me on the spot. ???  Line for the Packers game is Green Bay -3 1/2
and the over under is 421/2    I like the Packers and the under.

The line on the Jets game is  Pittsburgh -4 and the over under is 38.  I like the Jets and the over.  I wouldn't bet the farm on any of them though. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
Not bad magicman . 3 out of 4 on the playoffs/Over-under. Too bad you didnt like the Steelers or you would have been perfect!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2011, 03:33:14 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2011, 10:06:43 AM
Not bad magicman . 3 out of 4 on the playoffs/Over-under. Too bad you didnt like the Steelers or you would have been perfect!

I liked the Steelers to win, just felt it would be a 3 point game. With the spread I had to take the Jets. I did alright as I bet 4 parleys and won 2 of them.

Jets played real stupid in the 4th quarter. With 57 seconds left in the 3rd quarter the Steelers punted and the Jets took over on their own 19 yard line. At that point in the game the Jets were down 24-10. I would think there would be a little urgency in their play calling, along with a little speed getting up after the play, quickly huddling up (or go no huddle) and hustling up to the line of scrimmige. They marched down the field on a drive, that after 12 plays, found them with a 1st and goal from the 2 yard line. They used over 7 minutes to get to that point and spent 30 to 45 seconds between every play. That's just plain stupid clock management. On 1st down they tried to run it in, gained a yard, and then spent all kinds of time deciding what play to run on 2nd down. Sanchez even left the huddle, ran almost to the sideline to get the play and then ran back to the huddle, gave the play to the team, lined up and barely got the play off before the play clock expired. The whole team, especially Sanchez, was so out of synch, that it was no surprise when he rolled out to his right and threw it at the feet of Keller, the intended reciever. A time out would probably have been a smart call there. Instead of wasting a down as they did, you could avoid being rushed, talk things over and call a couple of plays in case you didn't get in on 2nd down. On 3rd down they tried a pass to the right again, that was batted down at the line and on 4th down the old run up the gut that was stuffed. They managed to use a total of 8:06 and came away with no points. That was the ballgame right there. The ensuing safety and subsequent touchdown after the free kick still left them needing a TD with less than 3 minutes left to play and the Steelers with the ball. What was even more amazing to me was after the safety they got the ball back on the free kick with 7:38 left in the game down 24-12 and still needing 2 touchdowns. They ran 5 plays, used another 2 minutes and 43 seconds of clock and THEN decided to go to a no huddle offense. Had they scored when they were on the 1 yard line earlier or just went to a no huddle at the start of the 4th quarter, there would have been plenty of time to get the tying or go ahead score. Jets coaching staff lost this game 15 minutes before it ended. :(& :o               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 24, 2011, 10:22:32 PM
You know I think I am going to "consult" Magic before every bet I make!!!  "Jimmy the Greek" got nuthin on the Magicman!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FROMAFAR on January 25, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
Hey Magic, I know this is thwrong site....... but while your prognosticating, what's your thoughts on Stevens and Hartwick tonight... This could decide after all is said and done who gets in E-8 and who doesn't......Probably not but your thoughts? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Quote from: FROMAFAR on January 25, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
Hey Magic, I know this is thwrong site....... but while your prognosticating, what's your thoughts on Stevens and Hartwick tonight... This could decide after all is said and done who gets in E-8 and who doesn't......Probably not but your thoughts? ;)

Stevens has a 6-2 record on the road , while Hartwick is 6-2 at home and has to be the biggest surprise in the E8 this year. The Hawks have also gotten a lift with the mid-season return of last year's leading scorer Mark Blazek. Should be a close one in the Binder Center tonight, but Hartwick, stilll sky high from their win at Ithaca, should prevail 72 -69.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2011, 08:14:30 PM
Here's Tuesday night's games


Cortland State  @   Oneonta State      8:00 PM LS
Battle of the Red Dragons. Hard to believe Cortland will win 2 conference road games in a row. I'm taking the Red Dragons 74-66---the Oneonta variety.   
   
Oswego State   @   New Paltz State      8:00 PM
New Paltz is undefeated at home in SUNYAC play. Oswego has a 7-1 road record and that loss was to Oneonta by 2 points. The Hawks love an up tempo game, but the Lakers can play that way also as evidenced by their 95-83 win over Ithaca. I'd love to see New Paltz win but I think Oswego takes this one 77-72.   
     
Brockport State  @    Buffalo State      8:00 PM
Buffalo St. looking for revenge as the Golden Eagles ended their season last year with a 68-67 overtime defeat of the Bengals in the SUNYAC tournament. Buffalo State wins a thriller 76-73   
   
Geneseo State  @    Fredonia State      8:00 PM
Battle for the Bottom. I've seen both teams and Fredonia played a better game against the Cardinals than Geneseo did so I'll take the Blue Devils over the Blue Knights, 68-65.   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 25, 2011, 10:13:12 PM
magicman 3 out of 4 again????. Time to head to Vegas ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2011, 10:15:10 PM
Oneonta betters Cortland 67-61 in bizarre contest in which OState before capacity crowd lit up visitors to the tune of 43-24 halftime blues. Then CState's J. Winter led revival from 21 point deficit with 18 minutes left. Corts actually took 61-60 lead on J. Smith layup at 1:50. OState quickly righted on D. Hahn layup. Hahn, B. Talbot and S. Gillette free throws over final 54 ticks sealed the deal. A strange one!! Hahn 14 pts, 15 rebs; Talbot 17 pts, 7 of team's 10 assts; Gillette 14 pts. Winter finishes with 23 pts, 5 assts. Viewed opening half via Oneonta teevee and saw quite the ugly Cortland show till then ...........Span must've lit a fire but his crew didn't finish ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2011, 10:22:44 PM

Buffalo St. 78, Brockport 66

Geneseo 72, Fredonia 68

Oswego 81, New Paltz 70
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2011, 10:50:42 PM

How about 5 for 5 including Hartwick's 72-68 win over Stevens .........time for the testing to begin.

Oswego with no trouble. Holds 42-31 lead at half and margin to 19 about 10 minutes later. New Paltz does get within six at 1:05 before four B. Gebhardt free throws provide Lakers lift. H. Ward 16 pts, 14 rebs, 4 blks for OState. C. Burridge 22 pts; S. Michele 6 assts. NP S. Taylor 21 pts, 8 rebs

Buffalo State in 32-18 halftime command and zooms to 28 point margin in second half. J. Simmons 30 pts(10x20fg, 5x9 3s); J. Mitchell 13 pts, 9 rebs. Bport's G. Williams 23 pts

Geneseo and Fredonia locked at 32 through 20 minutes and remain tight till late Gens spurt. M. Hoy 18 pts -- all in the final period. R. Riefenhauser 15 pts(7x10fg), 7 rebs, 4 assts; J. Jones 14 pts. Freds A. Smith 21 pts(10x15fg), 7 rebs; J. Herrera 8 assts, 8 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2011, 10:53:08 PM

Ah, yes .......Blue Devils he said. Magic indeed blue! Hold the testing ......but 4-of-5 taint bad .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2011, 10:58:59 PM

More precincts reporting .......Magic touch a bit less in LL .... 1-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2011, 11:40:20 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 25, 2011, 10:58:59 PM

More precincts reporting .......Magic touch a bit less in LL .... 1-1

Yeah I'm slipping. Only 5 of 7 overall tonight. Hartwick-Stevens , Geneseo-Fredonia , Clarkson-SLU, Brockport -Buffalo St and Oswego-New Platz were all tough games to handicap. Not surprised that Geneseo beat Freds, as I went back and forth on that one for quite a while. Finally just threw up my hands and went with the home team. SLU losing at home to Clarkson does surprise me a bit. Saw both teams in person earlier and Saints are the better team. But Knights with less talent, have a lot of heart, hustle, and good outside shooters. Also with loss of Clarkson's big guy and Saints coming off good win against Skidmore, Larries seemed to be the right choice. I now think they are the most inconsistent team in the East.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 26, 2011, 12:53:45 AM
Anyone surprised that Oswego did not at least get a mention in the top 25 rankings. Had good wins and already own a win over Ithaca and all losses were nailbiters.  Just thought they should a least get a vote or two. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2011, 03:40:23 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 26, 2011, 12:53:45 AM
Anyone surprised that Oswego did not at least get a mention in the top 25 rankings. Had good wins and already own a win over Ithaca and all losses were nailbiters.  Just thought they should a least get a vote or two. 

You need to check out the Poster's Poll on the multi-Regional topic board.
Here's the link:    http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4188.2160

#36 is Oswego getting 3 points for my vote at #23 and #38 is Hobart getting 1 point for my vote at #25. I'm hoping that if Oswego wins all their games this week they'll be 14-3 and that might get them a mention in the next real poll. Part of their problem is they've played less games than just about everyone else, so the voters are looking at them with a record of 11-3 and comparing them to teams that have 14, 15, or 16 wins. Hobart did get a mention this week and if they keep winning they'll move up. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2011, 06:41:29 AM
Carl Munnerlyn a senior guard for Plattsburgh State was named as the SUNYAC player of the week for the 2nd time this season. Carl is the only 2 time winner this year.

SUNYAC write up:
Carl Munnerlyn (Brooklyn, NY/Canarsie) came off the bench to lead the Cardinals with an 18.0 scoring average, as Plattsburgh went 2-0 in SUNYAC play. He tied his career-high of 23 points vs. Buffalo State to top all scorers, including 10-of-10 at the free throw line. He sank six attempts in the final 1:22 to seal the 80-76 win as the Cardinals shot 78.6 from the charity stripe. Munnerlyn shot 43 percent from the arc, 45 from the floor and 87.5 from the charity stripe over the two-game span as Plattsburgh moved into sole possession of second place in the SUNYAC standings



Top performers for this week so far

Jake Simmons making a bid to also become a 2 time winner with a huge game for Buffalo State last night against Brockport. Jake scored 30 points on 10x20 from the field, 5x9 from long distance, and 5x6 from the line. He also added 5 rebounds, 3 steals and a block in 35 minutes

Chad Burridge was the game's leading scorer in the Laker's win at New Paltz. Chad scored 23 points(8x17 fg, 1x2 3's, 5x6 ft) with 6 rebounds and 4 blocked shots in 33 minutes

Shareef Taylor led the Hawks in a losing effort with 21 points (10x17 ft 0x2 3's 1x1 ft) with 8 rebounds in 30 minutes.

Brockport's Gerald Williams scored 23 in the loss at Buffalo State. He was 7x18 from the field 2x8 from long range and 7x8 from the line in 37 minutes

Fredonia's Adam Smith was the game's leading scorer in the Blue Devils' loss to Geneseo. He had 21 points(10x15 fg, 1x2 ft), 7 rebounds, 2 blocks, and a steal in only 23 minutes.

Mike Hoy was the leading score for Geneseo with 18 points(5x10 fgf, 3x5 3's, 5x8 ft) in 30 minutes.

Jesse Winter with 23 points(7x12 fg, 4x6 3's, 5x6 ft) for Cortland but it wasn't enough to prevent them from losing to Oneonta 67-61. Winter also added 5 assists and 2 rebounds in 36 minutes.

Derek Hahn with a double-double for the winning Red Dragons as he had 14 points(5x6 fg, 4x6 ft) and a whopping 15 rebounds in 28 minutes.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
Friday Night's SUNYAC games:


Fredonia State   @   Cortland State      8:00 PM
Can the Red Dragons win at home tonight and escape the cellar? Can Fredonia win on the road? Answers: Yes and No. Cortland takes it 67-63   
   
Potsdam State  @    New Paltz State      8:00 PM
New Paltz looking for revenge, will have too much firepower for the Bears. Hawks roll 81-69.     
   
Geneseo State  @    Brockport State      8:00 PM
Can't believe Geneseo can win 2 road games in a row. Can't believe Brockport will lose 3 straight conference games. Golden Eagles prevail 76-67 
     
Buffalo State   @   Oswego State      8:00 PM
Can the Bengals upset the Lakers on the road? They already lost to Oswego in Buffalo back on December 4th. Lakers have won 5 in a row. Last time they won 5 in a row, they got upset by St. Lawrence trying to go for 6.  I think Buff State pays them back and wins a tight one 79-77.       

Plattsburgh State   @   Oneonta State      8:00 PM
Cardinals have won 7 straight over the Red Dragons. Tonight they make it eight. Plattsburgh wins 78-71.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 08:32:56 PM
Wouldn't you know. I'm getting live stats for every SUNYAC game except the one I want the most. Can't get my Cardinals taking on Oneonta. Live stats page for the game comes up showing Plattsburgh and Oneonta, with a score of 67-61 game over, but it's actually the final of the Oneonta and Cortland  game from this past Tuesday. Come on Oneonta get your act together and show us the right game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 08:37:01 PM
I guess you just have to ask. 30 seconds after my post complaining about the incorrect live stats coming from Oneonta, the correct live stats for the Plattsburgh-Oneonta game flahed up on the screen. ThankYou! Thank You! Thank You!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 08:47:34 PM
Cortland up on Fredonia 37-25 at the half.

Brockport leads Geneseo 43-29 at the half.

Other halftime scores

Plattsburgh 28 Oneonta 22

Potsdam 33  New Paltz 32

Oswego 37 Buffalo St. 27
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 09:32:56 PM
Cortland State  moves into sole possession of 8th place as they defeat Fredonia 69-57.


Jeremy Smith with 22 points, Jesse Winter with 20 and John Connolly with 17 lead the Red Dragons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 09:52:49 PM
Plattsburgh State hangs on to defeat Oneonta

Cardinals were up by 22 at one point with 9:25 to go in the 2nd half and still up 67-48 with 3:49 to play when Coach Curle emptied the bench. Red Dragons pulled to within 10 at 69-59 but Curle inserts starters to close this one out Cardinals win 75-59.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 09:59:17 PM
Oswego holds off Buffalo State 77-71 behind 22 points from Conor Monaghan and 21 points from Chad Burridge.

Potsdam and New Paltz headed to overtime tied at 58.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 10:07:48 PM
Brockport's live stats froze up at halftime but now have a final as the golden Eagles defeat Geneseo 82-67.

New Paltz up on the bears 70-68 with 22 seconds to go in OT.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 10:18:08 PM
New Paltz prevails in overtime as they down Potsdam 73-68.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2011, 11:01:37 PM
Here's some short recaps:

Plattsburgh 75 Oneonta 59

After initial exchange of baskets Plattsburgh grabbed the lead for good at 6-4 and stretched it to 9 points at 22-13. Up 28-22 at the half, Cards with 19-4 run to open up a 21 pt. lead at 47-26. Plattsburgh maintained a comfortable advantage the rest of the way although a late surge by Oneonta against the Plattsburgh reserves did cut it to 10 at one point.

Cards were led by Chris Ruiz, the game's high scorer, who managed a double-double of 26 points (10x20 fg.1x5 3's, 5x6 ft) and 10 rebounds. Steve Thomas was close to a double-double as well with 17 points(6x13 fg, 1x3 3's. 6x7 ft) and 8 boards. Errol Daniyan added 14 points(6x13 fg, 2x4 ft) and 6 rebounds. Cards won the rebound battle 41-35 and only had 11 turnovers to 16 by the Red Dragons.

Oneonta was led by Troy Talbot with 16 points( 5x11 fg, 6x6 ft) and Brian Hooks with 11 points(5x7 fg, 1x2 3's)

Plattsburgh moves to 7-2 in league play 11-5 overall. The Cardinals will travel to New Paltz for a game with the Hawks tomorrow afternoon.

Oneonta is now 5-5 and 6-11. They host Potsdam tomorrow.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2011, 03:01:28 AM
Oswego 77 Buffalo State 71

Bengals stayed with the Lakers through a good portion of the 1st period but with Oswego up 21-19 and 7:49 remaining an 11-3 Laker run would push the lead to double digits and remain that way at the half, 37-27. Bengals would claw their way back into contention outscoring Oswego 12-2 to make the score 45-43 with 15:18 remaining. Lakers rebound by hitting 5 of their next 6 shots and re-establish a double digit lead, which reached 13 points, 62-49 with 9:13 left to play. Bengals with one last push got to within 4, but too little too late.

Live stats were screwed up tonight in games all over the place. Points scored by the Lakers as showing in the box score are different than totals that live stats had. Conor Monaghan actually had 24 points(9x13 fg, 2x3 3's, 4x8 ft) along with 7 rebounds. Chad Burridge only scored 15 points(6x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 3x4 ft) instead of the 21 I mentioned earlier and Ryan Sheridan had 12 points(4x7 fg, 1x2 3's, 3x5 ft). Hayden Ward had a solid game with 9 rebounds, 7 points, 2 assists and a block. Lakers shot the ball better then the Bengals especially from long distance as the Bengals only hit 3 of 15 from behind the arc while Oswego had 6 trifectas in 14 attempts. Lakers also won the rebound war, 42 to 34. Laker's hot shooting (30x57 fg, 6x14 3's,)  covered up the 17 turnovers they had to only 8 for Buff St.

Buffalo State was led by Justin Mitchell with 17 points(8x11 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x3 ft) and Norman Simmons with 15 (7x12 fg,1x1 3's).  Nico McLean had 11 (2x2 fg, 0x2 3's, 7x8 ft)  and Glenroy Carr just missed a double-double with 12 points(5x12 fg, 2x2 ft) and 9 rebounds.

Oswego wins their 6th game in a row to go to 9-1 in the SUNYAC and 13-3 overall . They remain one and a half games in front of Plattsburgh. They host Fredonia at 6 PM Saturday evening

Buffalo drops to 5-5 which ties them with Oneonta for 5th place. the Bengals are 10-6 on the year and travel to Cortland  for a 4 PM Saturday afternoon tip off.           

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2011, 04:11:05 PM
Today's SUNYAC games


Buffalo State   @   Cortland State      4:00 PM
Buffalo State loss last night pretty much ended Bengals hopes for regular season crown. They can't afford a loss here if they still want to host a 1st round playoff game.  Buffalo State 76-68  
 
Plattsburgh State  @    New Paltz State      4:00 PM
Plattsburgh tries to gain major separation between rest of the pack and turn the conference into a two horse race. Hawks split season series last year with Cards by winning in Plattsburgh but Cards have won in New Paltz for the past 5 years and are 10-1 in their last 11 games in this series. Hope it's 11-1 after today.  Cards win 85-78.

Potsdam State   @   Oneonta State      4:00 PM
Bears lost a tough one to the Hawks yesterday. Lose another tough one to the Red Dragons today. Oneonta 82-73.
 
Fredonia State  @    Oswego State      6:00 PM
Lakers  look to stay on top. Fredonia won't do much to prevent that. This one should be over early. Oswego 84-65  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
Some surprises at halftime

Potsdam over Oneonta 33-26

Cortland over Buffalo St 33-30

Plattsburgh over New Paltz 28-24
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2011, 05:39:20 PM
Buffalo State eases by Cortland 70-68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2011, 05:41:12 PM
Buffalo St. survives at Cortland 70-68 on G. Carr point reversal at 0:36 and single ft at 0:16. Bengals down 33-30 at half and lead by nine at 12:47. Corts pull switcheroo and lead by six at 8:08. BS with 23 points from J. Simmons, 16 from C. Cartwright and 13 from J. Mitchell (16 rebs). Corts led by J. Smith's 25 pts(11x17fg), H. hefele 15 pts, J. winter 10 pts, 5 assts, and J. Connolly 12 pts. Connolly with 14 rebs previous night vs. Fredonia. BS with 49-31 board advantage. Winter misses trey at 0:01
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Post by: jdex on January 29, 2011, 05:43:54 PM

Potsdam 61, Oneonta 58
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2011, 05:48:13 PM

Plattsburgh by four with 4:33 left at NP
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2011, 06:08:46 PM
Plattsburgh 76 New Paltz 62

Plattsburgh up 55-51 with 4:22 left to play when Chris Ruiz hits a free throw, makes a layup off a New Paltz turnover and then gets fouled after another Hawk turnover, goes to the line to convert 2 more free throws. 5 straight points by Chris and the Cards go up 60-51 and cruise to a 76-62 final. Technical foul issue by the Hawks made the final score a bit larger than it probably should have been.

Chris Ruiz again leads the Cardinals and is the games high scorer with 19 points (6x18 fg,2x7 3's 5x6 ft) and with 8 rebounds comes up just short of his 2nd straight double-double. Carl Munnerlyn,the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week kept the Cardinals in  the game early on with 15 points in the 1st half and ended up with 18 altogether(5x9 fg, 3x4 3's, 5x8 ft). Steve Thomas with only 2 points in the 1st period came on strong in the 2nd half and ended up with 15 points. He didn't connect well from the field hitting only 2 of 11 shots but did manage 11 of 14 from the charity stripe. Plattsburgh's big guy Erroll Daniyan only managed 9 points on 3x6 fg, and 3x8 ft, but grabbed 9 boards and had 6 blocked shots. Point guard Ketama Brooks contributed a solid all around game with
8 points 3 rebounds 2 assists and 2 steals.

Matt Devine had 17 points for the Hawks (6x12 fg, 1x1 3's,4x5 ft) and completed a double-double with 12 rebounds. Shereef Taylor also had double figs with 14 points (4x9fg, 6x8 ft) and 7 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2011, 07:53:39 PM
Oswego defeats Fredonia 48-33. Nice watching it online. Picture quality pretty good. Even better it's free. Went to Williams website to watch the big matchup between Middlebury and Williams this afternoon which also was on streaming video online. Had to pay $15. No thanks. Williams endowment fund must be getting low :D

Wow, I tuned into this game late and after pulling up the video feed, I went and pulled up the live stats on another window. When the action ended on the video, I checked the live stats saw the score, time left :00 and I thought it was the end of the half. I listened to the 3 announcers talking about the game but not really paying much attention as I was at work doing a bunch of stuff and was just waiting for the 2nd period to begin. Imagine my surprise when I heard the announcers do their wrap up and vanish. I went to live stats and thought they probably froze up or something  but when I pulled up the play by play for the 1st half, there was the halftime score, 17-13 Fredonia. Glad I missed  the 1st half. It must have been ugly. :o 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2011, 10:50:20 PM

Oswego draws even at 21-21 on S. Michele hoop with 14:12 left and his bucket at 14:02 puts Lakers in charge (if you can call it that). Revved up OState powers to 29-21 bulge at 11:23. Fredonia scoreless from 19:16 to 11:04! Oswego 4x24fg first half. H. Ward tops Lakers with 12 pts(5x8fg), 8 rebs, 4 stls. C. Burridge 7 pts,6 rebs in 28'. Freds A. Smith 19 pts(8x14fg), 8 rebs

Potsdam sees first half lead vanish but asserts itself late featuring A. Williams trey at 1:16 and R. Duquette go-ahead bucket at 0:29. Two E. Cross ft at 0:03 the climax. Oneonta fails to get off final shot. Duquette 20 pts(7x14fg), 6 rebs; C. Pierce 8 rebs. Dragon T. Talbot 25 pts(9x13fg), 7 TOs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2011, 11:09:59 PM
The updated standings as of January 30th.

1.   Oswego         10-1
2.   Plattsburgh     8-2
3.   Brockport       6-4        
4.   New Paltz       6-5       Holds tiebreaker over Buffalo St.            
5.   Buffalo St.      6-5
6.   Potsdam         5-5
7.   Oneonta         5-6
8.   Cortland         3-8
9.   Geneseo         2-8
10  Fredonia         2-9
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 31, 2011, 11:36:50 PM
Finally a "little love" for the Lakers with a mention in the top 25 poll with a deuce for points. Only teams to show up from the 3 leagues I follow are Ithaca and the Lakers as Hobart with its loss to St Lawrence is now gone.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
Plattsburgh State's Chris Ruiz is this week's SUNYAC Player of the Week. Congratulations Chris.
Chris is the 3rd different Cardinal(Carl Munnerlyn, twice and Errol Daniyan) and 4th time this season that a Plattsburgh State player has won the weekly honors

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website. Hope they change the fact that he doesn't play for Buff State. :D

Chris Ruiz Senior guard for Plattsburgh State (Washington Heights, NY/Bronx St. Agnes) averaged 22.5 points and nine rebounds in a 2-0 week for the Cardinals. Friday vs. Oneonta, Ruiz shot 50% from the floor as he finished with game highs of 26 points and 10 rebounds. Saturday, all of Ruiz's 19 points came in the second half as Plattsburgh took a four-point halftime lead and blew it into a 14-point win over New Paltz.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2011, 06:11:13 PM
There was a full schedule of games tonight in the SUNYAC but the New Paltz-Cortland game has been postponed and will be made up on next Tuesday Feb. 8th.


New Paltz State   @   Cortland State      Postponed  
 
Fredonia State   @   Brockport State      8:00 PM
Brockport will have revenge in mind against the Blue Devils. Fredonia's victory 2 weeks ago was only their first over the Golden Eagles in their past 10 meetings. I don't think they can do it twice in a row Port will take this one 77-63.
 
Buffalo State   @   Geneseo State      8:00 PM
Bengals look for season sweep of Blue Knights. These 2 teams put  216 points on the board 2 weeks ago. A bit less tonight but Bengals will still win it 88 -81    
 
Oneonta State   @   Oswego State      8:00 PM
Oneonta has won the last 3 times these teams have met. Lakers end the losing streak tonight as they take down the Red Dragons 75-66  
 
Potsdam State   @   Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM
Anything goes when these 2 North Country rivals meet, evidenced by the fact that they are 7-7 in their last 14 meetings. This is their 1st meeting this year and the Cards will come out on top 82-70.
 
 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2011, 11:45:08 PM
Final Scores

Plattsburgh St. 80 Potsdam 71

Oswego 81 Oneonta 70

Brockport 69 Fredonia 44

Buffalo St 101 Geneseo 94  Double Overtime



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2011, 01:24:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 01, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
Plattsburgh State's Chris Ruiz is this week's SUNYAC Player of the Week. Congratulations Chris.
Chris is the 3rd different Cardinal(Carl Munnerlyn, twice and Errol Daniyan) and 4th time this season that a Plattsburgh State player has won the weekly honors

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website. Hope they change the fact that he doesn't play for Buff State. :D


Wow magic. As of 1:15 am they still have Ruiz listed as a member of the Buffalo State team. Maybe it's a precursor for Chris Cartwright, who had 39 against Geneseo tonite! If the BENGALS Chris can duplicate that effort against Oneonta/New Paltz at home this weekend then maybe next Monday there will be Player of the Week who plays for Buffalo State named "Chris"  ;).

If I ever had a SUNYAC fantasy team both "Chris's" would be on my team :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2011, 03:10:50 AM
Just back from the Plattsburgh-Potsdam game which Plattsburgh won 80-71.
Live stats for the game are way off as the score is incorrect and the players have the wrong point totals.

Plattsburgh grabbed the lead right out of the gate and led by 10 quick points from Chris Ruiz built an 11 point advantage 23-12 with 10:17 left in the half. The Bears hung tough behind the play of Curtis Pierce and Tony Efese and got it back to within 4 at the 5:46 mark. A pair of free throws by John Perez gave the Cards a 6 point lead 36-30 with 16 seconds to play but the Bears would cut it to 3 on a beautiful 3 point buzzer beater that left the hand of Anthony Williams a tenth of a second before the horn sounded. I'm not sure if the game was being videotaped but this would be one for the D3hoops Buzzer Beater features if it was.  

Teams came out of the break and traded baskets until, with 90 seconds gone in the period, the Bears would claim there first lead of the game at 40-39 on a bucket by Curtis Pierce. The Cardinals would regain control and over the next 4 minutes built an 8 point lead. Potsdam would not fold however, even when the lead again reached double digits at 63-53 with 8:34 remaining and 66-56 with 7:39 left. Eddie Cross came off the bench to give the Bears a big lift as he hit 3 long range bombs in a 3 minute span, the last of which tied the score at 70-70 with 3:46 to go. Errol Daniyan hit a layup to give the Cards the lead and after a Potsdam misfire, Steve Thomas drained a pair of free throws to up the lead to 4. Potsdam would then turn the ball over leading to another foul of Thomas, who calmly hit both of those to make it 76-70. Potsdam goes to the line with 1:28 left, hits the first, misses the 2nd, gets the rebound, is fouled again and this time the  Potsdam player misses both free throws. They were the 5th and 6th consecutive free throws that this player missed. Cardinals rebound and Thomas hits another pair at the charity stripe and after another Potsdam miss Cards Carl Munnerlyn is fouled and he hits 2 more free throws to close out the scoring. So the game was closer than the final score would indicate as it was anybodys game with 3:46 left to play and a tie score. Free throws cost the Bears as they only hit 11 of 28 (39.3%). Plattsburgh managed to sink 23 of 30. (76.7%) which provided the margin of victory.

Cardinals were once again led by the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week Chris Ruiz with 19 points (7x11 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x4 ft) and 6 rebounds. Chris shared the scoring honors with Potsdam's Curtis Pierce who also had 19 points (8x12 fg, 3x7 ft) and 6 boards. Plattsburgh placed 3 others in double figures as Freshman Shavar Fields had a new career high of 14 points (5x8 fg, 4x6 ft) in only 21 minutes of action. Both Steve Thomas and Errol Daniyan added 12 points and 5 boards. R.J. Ponesse added 9 points and 4 rebounds in only 11 minutes of work.

Bears also had 3 other players in double digits besides Pierce. Eddie Cross finished with 13 points (5x10 fg, 3x4 3's), while Anthony Williams and Tony Efese both scored 12 points with 7 rebounds.

Plattsburgh improves to 13-5 on the season and maintains a strong hold on 2nd place on the conference with a 9-2 record. The Cardinals head west this weekend for a rematch with Brockport on Friday and Geneseo on Saturday.

Potsdam falls to 6-12 on the season and is holding on to sole possession of 6th place in the conference with a 5-6 mark. The Bears are also heading west as they take on Geneseo and then Brockport.      
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2011, 03:43:36 AM
Oswego 81 Oneonta 70

Lakers gain measure of revenge over solitary SUNYAC loss at the hands of the Red Dragons earlier in the season. Chad Burridge and company too much for Oneonta as they lead from the opening bell, quickly go up by double digits, and are never really threatened. Up by 13 at the break they extend 2nd half bulge to 20 and coast home to victory. Burridge with 18, Ryan Sheridan with 16, Sean Michele and Hayden Ward with 13 each.

Derek Hahn is the leading scorer in the game with 21 points and snares 11 rebounds for a double-double. Three point shooter Brian Hooks drains 4 of 6 from long distance and ends up with 16 points. Troy Talbot adds 14 and Shane Gillette chips in with 12.

Oswego is now 15-3 on the year and 11-1 in the YAC. Next up for the Lakers is a home game this Friday at 8 PM against travel partner Cortland. 

Oneonta is now 6-13 on the year and 5-7 in the conference. They head west this weekend to tackle Buffalo St. and then Fredonia.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2011, 04:32:41 AM
Brockport 69 Fredonia 44

This game  was a mismatch from the gitgo as the Golden Eagles jumped out to a 16-2 lead and it only got worse for the Blue Devils from there. Up by 19 at the half, 36-17, Brockport would quickly stretch it to 30 early in the 2nd stanza. it got as high as 37 on several occasions, as Coach Dunne emptied his bench and the Eagles cruised home.

Gerald Williams was the games leading scorer with 20 points. (6x11 fg, 5x7 3's, 3x4 ft) in only 24 minutes of action. Freshman John Ivy added 13 and Kyheem Green had 10.

Branden McKenney led the Blue Devils with 12 points (4x7 fg, 4x5 ft) and Adam Smith had 10 94x5fg, 2x6 ft). Fredonia's leading scorer Joseph Monahan was held in check by Brockport's defense as he only tallied 2 points.

Eagles await return engagement with Plattsburgh this Friday and Potsdam this Saturday. They evcen their record at 9-9 and are in sole possession of 3rd place in the SUNYAC with a 7-4 record.

Fredonia drops to 5-13 overall and 2-10 in league play. They are now in 10th place and have 2 more losses than the 9th place team. Blue devils will host New Paltz and then Oneonta this weekend and will need to get something started to avoid missing the playoffs.   



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2011, 06:10:57 AM
Buffalo St. 101  Geneseo St 94.

Well they didn't put up the 216 points they did 2 weeks ago but they came pretty darn close. What I can't understand is how no one managed to score a point in the last 2:04 of regulation. Bengals fight back from the largest deficit of the game which was the halftime score of 38-25, by outscoring the Blue knights 16-3 to start the second period.  Geneseo looks to regain the advantage and put the Bengals away but after going back up by 7 they allow Buffalo St. to tie it up at 71 with 3:35  remaining. From that point through the end of the first overtime nobody could gain much of an advantage. Bengals did open the 1st overtime with 5 straight points, only to have Geneseo come back with 5 straight points of their own to knot it up at 80 apiece. They trade baskets until they head into extra session #2. Again back and forth action until tied at 94 with 59 seconds left Chris Cartwright nails one from long distance and after Geneseo fails to score on their possession they have to foul and Cartwright sinks both free throws to ice it for the Bengals.
Cartwright had a monster night as he shot 11x21 from the field, 5x11 from behind the arc and 12x14 from the line to total 39 points, which I believe is the biggest number put up this year in a conference game. He just missed a double-double as he had 9 rebounds and also had 4 assists, while playing 48 out of the game's 50 minutes. Four other Bengal players had double figures with Glenroy Carr(6x10 fg, 3x6 ft, 4 reb) and Justin Mitchell (7x8 fg, 1x2 ft, 8 reb) scoring 15 each. Jake Simmons had 11 and Ahmed Nagaya added 10.

Geneseo also placed 5 players in double digits with Jordan Jones leading the way with 26 (9x17 fg, 8x10 ft). Connor Fedge scored 17 points(6x12 fg, 5x9 ft),  Mike Hoy had 11 points and John Drazen also had 11 points.  Abe Miller managed a double-double with 16 points  (8x10 fg) and 10 boards.

Buffalo State ups their record to 12-6 and is now in sole possession of 4th place in the conference with a 7-5 record. They will host Oneonta, then New Paltz this coming weekend and will be looking to improve their chances for a first round home game in the playoffs. A sweep of those two games would certainly give them a leg up. New Paltz currently holds the tiebreaker over the Bengals by virtue of that huge comeback 86-85 win the Hawks had back in early January.

Geneseo's once promising season continues to go south, as the Blue Devils fall to 8-10 on the year. Their conference slate, now 2-9, puts them alone in the 9th spot, but they are closer to 10th place than they are to 8th. Potsdam, then Plattsburgh roll into town this coming weekend.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 01, 2011, 06:11:13 PM
There was a full schedule of games tonight in the SUNYAC but the New Paltz-Cortland game has been postponed and will be made up on next Tuesday Feb. 8th.


New Paltz State   @   Cortland State      Postponed  
 
Fredonia State   @   Brockport State      8:00 PM
Brockport will have revenge in mind against the Blue Devils. Fredonia's victory 2 weeks ago was only their first over the Golden Eagles in their past 10 meetings. I don't think they can do it twice in a row Port will take this one 77-63.
 
Buffalo State   @   Geneseo State      8:00 PM
Bengals look for season sweep of Blue Knights. These 2 teams put  216 points on the board 2 weeks ago. A bit less tonight but Bengals will still win it 88 -81    
 
Oneonta State   @   Oswego State      8:00 PM
Oneonta has won the last 3 times these teams have met. Lakers end the losing streak tonight as they take down the Red Dragons 75-66  
 
Potsdam State   @   Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM
Anything goes when these 2 North Country rivals meet, evidenced by the fact that they are 7-7 in their last 14 meetings. This is their 1st meeting this year and the Cards will come out on top 82-70.
 

Brockport 69 Fredonia 44
I predicted a little more scoring and not quite as big a MOV but pretty much what I expected.

Buffalo St 101 Geneseo 94
You'd think with all the points these 2 teams have put up in their last 2 meetings that somebody could have scored a few points in the final 2:04 of regulation. had they done that they'd have been pretty close to my predicted 169 total points. Even the end of the 1st OT a winner would have been around 173 points. i would have taken that. ;D

Oswego St 81 Oneonta 70
Each team got a few more than I guessed and my MOV was within a basket. I'll take it!

Plattsburgh 80 Potsdam 71
My closest prediction of the night. I actually had 2 chances to get an 82-71 final and only miss by a point. Cardinal big guy Errol Daniyan missed 2 free throws with 15 seconds left that would have given me the exact Plattsburgh total. I'm talking to Coach Curle about some laps to be run for that. And then with 8 seconds left Chris Ruiz steals the ball, heads toward the Plattsburgh basket like he might try to dunk it or lay it in, but just pulls up and dribbles the clock out. (With me yelling I need two more Chris, I need two more.) But it was the right thing for Chris to do. Chris may regret giving those points up though as he's closing in on another milestone on Plattsburgh's all time scoring list. Chris just moved into 3rd place all time and has his sights set on Larry Parker's 2nd place position. He needs 138 points to move ahead of Larry and I think he can do it.

4-0 with my picks Tuesday night.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2011, 03:14:08 PM
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2011, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 02, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 01, 2011, 06:11:13 PM
4-0 with my picks Tuesday night.   

Magicman.....I know a HOT handicapper when I see 1! Any thoughts on the OVER/UNDER for the Superbowl....and any of the Super bowl props? (I am already picking the Steelers)   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2011, 06:53:52 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2011, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 02, 2011, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 01, 2011, 06:11:13 PM
4-0 with my picks Tuesday night.  

Magicman.....I know a HOT handicapper when I see 1! Any thoughts on the OVER/UNDER for the Superbowl....and any of the Super bowl props? (I am already picking the Steelers)   ;)

Still formulating but favoring Steelers and the under at the moment.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2011, 11:09:23 PM
Say no more! Steelers and the under! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 03, 2011, 01:02:33 AM
Place your bets - Magic has spoken!!! :D Finally some love in regional rankings for the Lakers. Nice that Cards are there too.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 07:30:54 PM
All ten teams in action tonight. All 8PM starts


Cortland State   @   Oswego State      8:00 PM
Red Dragons can't match Oswego's firepower. Lakers take this one 76-63. 
   
New Paltz State  @    Fredonia State      8:00 PM
New Paltz hoping for a top 4 finish, can't let this game slip away. Hawks win 72-67. 
   
Plattsburgh State  @    Brockport State      8:00 PM
Golden Eagles came north a month ago and took down the Cardinals. Hopefully it's payback time. Plattsburgh wins a close one 84-80   
   
Oneonta State  @    Buffalo State      8:00 PM
Bengals with some payback as well. Oneonta only 1-7 on the road.  Buffalo State wins another defensive battle 86-80. ;D   
   
Potsdam State   @   Geneseo State      8:00 PM
The Potsdam team I saw on Tuesday should win this game but they struggle on the road. I hope I'm wrong on this one but think the Knights pick up a close win here 69-65.
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 08:38:33 PM
Geneseo over Potsdam at the half 44-28.
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 08:58:35 PM
Plattsburgh fights back from a 12 point 1st half deficit 28-16 to tie it up at 34 but Golden Eagles hit a 3 pointer with 6 seconds left and go into the break up 41-38.
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 09:02:33 PM
Oswego leads Cortland 30-20 at the break.

Buffalo State over Oneonta 27-23 at the half

New Paltz up on Fredonia 22-17 at halftime.
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 09:31:30 PM
Geneseo all over Potsdam 84-63 as the Blue Knights pick up their 3rd conference win.
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 09:37:23 PM
Buffalo State defeats Oneonta 75-62.
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
Oswego State beats Cortland  69-53.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2011, 09:47:54 PM

Oswego gets little resistence from Cortland, which hangs around but little more than a toy against tougher Lakers who go 28x56 from the field and rule the boards 40-28. C. Burridge 17 pts(8x14fg), 10 rebs in 26'. Sits some with pf trouble. C. Gilkes 16 pts(7x8fg) in 16'. Dragons topped by J. Smith 17 pts(6x18fg) in 37'
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Post by: jdex on February 04, 2011, 10:10:56 PM

Brockport 93, Plattsburgh 77

Buffalo State's C. Cartwright 26 pts(10x21fg, 5x11 3s), 3 assts, 3 stls; J. Simmons 16 pts. Oneonta's T. Talbot 17 pts. BS by two points at 8:25, by 18 at 2:19

Geneseo on fire. Lands 32x48fg led by spare E. Estabrooks 17 pts(6x7fg, 5x6 3s); M. Hoy 16 pts. Five Knights in double figures. Gens 8x16 treys. Potsdam's T. Efese 11 pts
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
New Paltz beats Fredonia 48-43. Another ugly ugly game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 10:23:02 PM
4-1 with my picks tonight in the SUNYAC. 4-0 with my picks over in the Liberty League. Gives me an 8-1 record for the night. I'd trade it for a 1 and 8 record if the 1 could be my Cardinals. Loss tonight not only gives the Golden Eagles bragging rights for the year but will prevent the Cardinals from catching the Lakers for the regular season title. Even if Plattsburgh should win out (far from a sure thing) and the Lakers suffered 2 more losses, the tiebreaker has now been tipped in Oswego's favor. Looks like the SUNYAC tournament will be held in Oswego this year.   
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Post by: jdex on February 04, 2011, 10:25:20 PM
New Paltz trails Freds by one early in final period. Knotted at 10:40 and Hawks by mere two points at 1:04. Contest scoreless till NP S. Taylor hits ft pair at 0:08 and another pair moments later. Hawks 15x44fg, 16x25ft. Freds 17x43fg, 5x13ft. Taylor 13 pts, 6 rebs, 4 stls. Freds A. Smith 12 pts
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2011, 11:36:12 PM
Gerald Williams has his best day ever as Brockport defeats the Cardinals 93-77. Williams scored 30 points on 9x12 shooting from the field. He was 5 of 6 from long distance and hit 7 of 10 from the charity stripe. Kyheem Green and John Ivy both tossed in 16 points, Derek Klein had 11 and Zack McTigue added 10, as all 5 starters hit double digits.

Plattsburgh was led by Chris Ruiz who tallied 29 points (9x17 fg, 1x5 3's, 10x11ft). Steve Thomas had 13, Carl Munnerlyn had 11 and Ketema Brooks chipped in with 10.

Brockport broke open a close game early in the 2nd half and with a little over 4 minutes gone in the period opened up a double digit lead of 53-42. Four minutes later at 11:31, the lead had reached 20. The closest the Cards would get from that point on was 12 as the Eagles coasted home to the 16 point win.

Brockport pulls to with 1 game of the 2nd place Cards as they move to 8-4 in the conference. They take on visiting Potsdam tomorrow, while the 9-3 Cardinals travel to Geneseo.
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Post by: magicman on February 05, 2011, 03:47:10 PM
Four games on tap for this afternoon all with  4 PM start times.

New Paltz State  @    Buffalo State
Buffalo State gets to replay the one that got away. Don't think New Paltz falls behind by 21, but don't think Bengals will lose either. Buffalo State 88-81       
   
Potsdam State  @    Brockport State
Brockport looking for some payback against the Bears. They'll get it with an 84-68 victory       
   
Oneonta State   @   Fredonia State
Red Dragons trying to avoid weekend sweep. Blue Devils trying to avoid weekend sweep. Oneonta does, Fredonia don't. Red Dragons win but it's ugly 56-51       
   
Plattsburgh State  @    Geneseo State
Cardinals looking to rebound from Brockport fiasco. Geneseo looking for revenge. Plattsburgh takes this one 78-68.       


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2011, 04:45:22 PM
Halftime scores:

Plattsburgh 33 Geneseo 20

Fredonia 28 Oneonta  24

Buffalo St 43 New Paltz 31

Brockport 40 Potsdam 18
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Post by: magicman on February 05, 2011, 05:50:29 PM
Final scores

Fredonia 52 Oneonta 51          I had it 56-51 Oneonta.  Wrong team but close on the scores and it was UGLY

Plattsburgh 67 Geneseo 58      I had it 78-68  A little higher than the actual score but the MOV was close.
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Post by: magicman on February 05, 2011, 06:00:16 PM
Final score

Buffalo State 89  New Paltz 79           I had it 88-81  Buffalo St.  Just missed perfection by 3 pts

Brockport 86  Potsdam 69                  I had it 84-68  Brockport.  Just missed perfection by 3 pts

3-1 in the SUNYAC tonight
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Post by: jdex on February 05, 2011, 06:26:15 PM

Brockport storms to 40-18 halftime bulge. Shoots 29x57fg for the game to Dam's 24x48. Port's G. Williams and K. Green split 52 points

Fredonia ahead 28-24 midway into the contest. Holds 10 point lead at 3:09. OState within one on T. Talbot hoop at 0:39. Freds evidently run down clock and Dragons don't get another shot. Devil J. Monahan 17 pts. Talbot wih 13 pts, 6 assts, 7 trnovrs; D. Hahn 20 pts(10x12fg)

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Post by: jdex on February 05, 2011, 06:33:32 PM

Buffalo State coasts; 21 up with 8:02 to go. Six Bengals in double figures. J. Simmons 24 pts(9x17fg, 4x7 3s); J. Mitchell 17 pts, 11 rebs, 3 blks. BS 35x67fg. NP S. Taylor 24 pts, 10 rebs. Four Hawks score double digits
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Post by: magicman on February 05, 2011, 07:06:47 PM
Plattsburgh State uses a late 1st half run to break away from Geneseo and extend a 13-12 lead into a 22-12 advantage. Cards extend it to 13 as they end the half up 33-20. Plattsburgh maintains a double digit lead throughout much of the 2nd half until the Blue Knights down 53-38 with 8:12 to play go on a 12-2 run to make 55-50 with 5:42 left in the game. Cardinals get 6 unanswered points to build the lead back to 11 and coast to the finish line.

Chris Ruiz once again led the Cardinals and was the game's high scorer with 21 points (8x14 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x3 ft). Errol Daniyan had a double-double of 13 points (6x12 fg, 1x4 ft) and 11 rebounds.

Mike Hoy was the high scorer for Geneseo with 19 points (5x9 fg, 4x8 3's, 5x9 ft) and Ethan Estabrooks added 18 (4x11 fg, 3x8 3's, 4x4 ft).

Plattsburgh State goes to 10-3 in the conference and remains in sole possession of 2nd place a game ahead of Brockport. Their next game is at home as they host league leader Oswego next Friday followed by Cortland on Saturday.

Geneseo moves into the 8th and final playoff spot, with a 4-9 record. They are currently one half game in front of Cortland. They go on the road next weekend to take on Oneonta and then New Paltz.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
Only 1 game tonight in the conference as New Paltz travels to Cortland to take on the Red Dragons. I think the Hawks win a close one here 72-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 08, 2011, 05:37:31 PM
   Things that make you go hmmmmm! I wonder how SUNY Cobleskill (9-13) almost beat Oswego (lost by 1 point).  ???  I'd sure like to hear from anyone who was at that game.

  Magicman.....might be something there that your beloved Cards could use, from that game, this Friday night against the Lakers ?! ;)
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Post by: magicman on February 08, 2011, 09:51:01 PM
Cortland pull off the upset as they down New Paltz 77-70. Somewhere jdex has a big smile on his face.
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Post by: jdex on February 08, 2011, 09:53:43 PM
Cortland 77, New Paltz 70  ......Corts big lift from fr forward K. McMahon with 17 pts(7x12fg), 5 reb in first extensive play since injured over a month ago. soph J. Winter 20 pts, 5 assts; soph J. Smith 16 pts, 3 assts; soph D. Sternkopf 7 rebs. Paltz leads most of first half till Corts land 3 pointer at buzzer for 31-31 tie. McMahon paces second half run and 12 pt Dragon lead with 14' left. NP pulls within one behind Taldi treys. Poised Corts regain balance. Big free throws near finish by Winter. Cortland with just five turnovers. NP gets 18 pts, 11 rebs, 5pf from 7-footer D. Olson. S. Taylor 13 pts(5x18fg)
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Post by: magicman on February 08, 2011, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 08, 2011, 09:53:43 PM
Cortland 77, New Paltz 70  ......Corts big lift from fr forward K. McMahon with 17 pts(7x12fg), 5 reb in first extensive play since injured over a month ago. soph J. Winter 20 pts, 5 assts; soph J. Smith 16 pts, 3 assts; soph D. Sternkopf 7 rebs. Paltz leads most of first half till Corts land 3 pointer at buzzer for 31-31 tie. McMahon paces second half run and 12 pt Dragon lead with 14' left. NP pulls within one behind Taldi treys. Poised Corts regain balance. Big free throws near finish by Winter. Cortland with just five turnovers. NP gets 18 pts, 11 rebs, 5pf from 7-footer D. Olson. S. Taylor 13 pts(5x18fg)

Well no wonder I got this game wrong. jdex was holding out on me with this McMahon kid. ;D
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Post by: jdex on February 08, 2011, 11:23:06 PM

Actually, Magic, McMahon gradually finding his legs. Saw 20 minutes of duty tonight and 15 of his points came in second half. Played 10 minutes at Oswego last Friday (0 pts, 0x6fg). The 6-6, 195 frosh was effective starter at beginning of season. First game missed was Jan. 11 date at New Paltz. Came off bench in limited play a few games later, then sat again. Minutes growing of late. Just one of many freshmen and sophs making inroads. On to the hinterlands
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Post by: with age came? on February 08, 2011, 11:35:58 PM
Magic has to be "itching" for this weekend's games.  HUGE game vs Lakers for Magic's cards.  What do you make of the lack of love for the SUNYAC in the polls? Lakers on a 10 game win streak and only get 2 more points than last week.  ??? I see that Ramapo has a loss to Liberty league also ran (virtually doormat if it were not for Vassar) Union and they get "way more love". Guess the SUNYAC has to "show'em" in the dance about the error of their ways. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2011, 04:07:26 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 08, 2011, 11:35:58 PM
Magic has to be "itching" for this weekend's games.  HUGE game vs Lakers for Magic's cards.  What do you make of the lack of love for the SUNYAC in the polls? Lakers on a 10 game win streak and only get 2 more points than last week.  ??? I see that Ramapo has a loss to Liberty league also ran (virtually doormat if it were not for Vassar) Union and they get "way more love". Guess the SUNYAC has to "show'em" in the dance about the error of their ways. ;D

with age,
Union was on a roll when they beat Ramapo. Since that big win they lost their top scorer plus another starter, which led to their slide to the bottom of the LL. They really were a much better team at the time of their victory over Ramapo.

Regarding Oswego's lack of love.  Oswego's 2 votes in last week's poll  put them in a tie for 37th place. Of the 20 teams ranked immediately above them, only 3 of them had a loss. #27 Ithaca, #29 Anderson ( both of them now receiving 0 votes and have dropped out of the poll) and #31 Lewis and Clark which slides to 34th place with 6 votes. The voters didn't have to make many changes in the poll from the previous week. I believe it was the first time this year that no team from the preceding week dropped out of the Top 25  poll. The only dropouts were the 2 teams mentioned above plus 1 vote wonders Elizabethtown and Randolph, all of them coming from the others receiving votes category and not the Top 25. Oswego actually doubled their point total and moved up 2 spots. Rochester (a gain of 17 points) and Wittenberg (a gain of 15 points) were the biggest movers of the teams on the lower end of the poll and that's where Ithaca's 20 points and Anderson's 19 points largely went.

And another thing "Age"---it really doesn't matter that Oswego didn't receive more recognition in this week's poll because after they lose to Plattsburgh on Friday night they would be dropped out of next week's poll anyways. ;D :P

Unfortunately for the Cardinals, a bit of luster was taken off the matchup with Oswego when Plattsburgh was beaten at Brockport last weekend. I was hoping Friday's game would be a battle for 1st place, now we need to win just to stay in 2nd. A loss drops us into a tie with Brockport and they own the tiebreaker against us.

The only way Oswego can lose the regular season title is if they drop 3 of their remaining 5 games, and either Plattsburgh or Brockport win out. I don't think that's going to happen. Sadly, (because I won't get a couple of extra home games this year)  the road for the automatic NCAA bid is going to go through Oswego's Max Ziel Gymnasium.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2011, 04:47:14 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 08, 2011, 05:37:31 PM
   Things that make you go hmmmmm! I wonder how SUNY Cobleskill (9-13) almost beat Oswego (lost by 1 point).  ???  I'd sure like to hear from anyone who was at that game.

  Magicman.....might be something there that your beloved Cards could use, from that game, this Friday night against the Lakers ?! ;)

Bengalsrule,
I never even  spotted this game with SUNY Cobleskill on Monday night. I was having virus problems with my home computer and couldn't get online. Oswego was actually lucky to win this game, as they were down 3 with 2:44 to go and scored the final 4 points of the game to pull it out. Burridge to the rescue, hitting 2 free throws and then a jumper with 11 seconds to play. Cobleskill with a final shot comes up short. Looks like the refs kept their whistles in their pockets. Only 6 free throw attempts in the entire game. Both teams shot 50 % or better from the field and rebounds were 28-27 in favor of Oswego. Pretty even game. Oswego with 28 fg, Cobleskill with 27. Oswego with 4x15 from 3 point land while Cobleskill was 8x22. Laker's extra field goal and 3 foul shots to none for Cobleskill were the 5 points to offset the 4 extra 3 pointers that the Fighting Tigers made. Looks like a mediocre Cobleskill team played a very good game against the SUNYAC leaders. If a missed field goal attempt by Oswego that went out of bounds with 20 seconds to go had went in Cobleskill's favor instead of the Lakers then the SUNYAC might have had a lot of runny yellow stuff dripping from it's face. :D           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2011, 10:19:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 09, 2011, 04:47:14 AMIf a missed field goal attempt by Oswego that went out of bounds with 20 seconds to go had went in Cobleskill's favor instead of the Lakers then the SUNYAC might have had a lot of runny yellow stuff dripping from it's face. :D           

Hope fully that "runny yellow stuff dripping" from the nostrils of the Lakers will be caused by the BENGALS in the finals of the SUNYAC championship! ;) If the Lakers win at least 1 of this weekends 2 games in the North Country then Central New York will be the place to be (on Saturday the 26th). With Oswego playing their last 3 at home vs New Paltz, Brockport and Geneseo the fate of the SUNYAC finals rest in the Bears /Cardinals hands :D this weekend (coupled with a first round playoff victory). A 14-4 Plattsburgh (gotta give them 1 more loss on the 18th :)) and a 14-4 Lakers team (with upcoming losses to the Cards, Bears and Brockport)  will make everyone a tiebreaker guru!

Maybe this Sunday we can dabble into a lil "playoff scenario" ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 10, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
As always Magic's comments are insightful ( except that one about the Laker loss to Cards this weekend).  Must've been something he ate as that comment was more of the inciteful nature (thems fighin' words)!! ;D
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Post by: magicman on February 11, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
Full slate tonight in the SUNYAC

Cortland State  @    Potsdam State         8:00 PM
This is a must win for the Bears. A loss here would send them plummeting into the 8th spot and with 3 of their final 4 games against the Lakers, Cards, and Bengals they'll be hard pressed to make the playoffs. A win gives them a 2 game lead with 4 to play. Cortland coming off nice win against New Paltz but their struggles on the road will continue. Potsdam wins a close one 69-65.
   
Brockport State  @    New Paltz State      8:00 PM
Which Brockport team shows up? The squad that beat Plattsburgh twice and New Paltz by 20 in their previous matchup or the team that couldn't get it done at Potsdam and Fredonia. Hawks would love to host a 1st round playoff game but their chances are slim as Buffalo St. has a 2 game lead on them. I think their chances become non-existent as Brockport continues their late season surge. Golden Eagles take this one 76-71       
   
Buffalo State  @    Fredonia State            8:00 PM
Bengals would love to move up in the standings and next week's games against Port and Plattsburgh could vault them up into 2nd. They can't afford a stumble here as Oneonta did last Saturday. Fredonia, despite being in last place, is still alive for a playoff spot. Unfortunately for them, they will still be in last place when tonight is over. Bengals win 74-65   
   
Geneseo State   @   Oneonta State         8:00 PM
Both teams struggling big time. Since beating Oswego State a month ago, Oneonta has lost 8 of their last 9 and their last 5 in a row. Geneseo has lost 9 of their last 12. Neither team can win on the road. Since the Red Dragons are home I'll go with them. Oneonta 77-72   

Oswego State  @    Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM
Oswego almost lost to (Gulp!!) Cobleskill on Monday night. Tonight they find the going a little tougher. Cards may not catch them for the regular season title, but will want to prove that they are still the reigning SUNYAC champs. Lakers 10 game winning streak ends as Plattsbugh win 75-70.

   
   
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Post by: thebear on February 11, 2011, 02:14:27 PM
Tonight will be a great show at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.

Time Warner is broadcasting the mens & womens games.  Check your local listings.

Bear Pride Night, where all the student groups, teams, organizations, Greeks are enticed (by prizes etc.) to come out and show support for the Bears.

Cortland Women are led by Brittany Cohen, daughter of former SU star Dr. Hal Cohen, and granddaughter of longtime (37 years) Bear men's assistant Stan Cohen.

Bears will be looking to secure a playoff spot with payback against the Dragons, who shot lights out (13 x 28 from the arc) in Cortland last month.

Oswego/Plattsburgh should be a monumental tussle.  Winner will have karma going into the last two weeks of the season.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 11, 2011, 02:14:27 PM
Tonight will be a great show at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.

Time Warner is broadcasting the mens & womens games.  Check your local listings.

Bear Pride Night, where all the student groups, teams, organizations, Greeks are enticed (by prizes etc.) to come out and show support for the Bears.

Cortland Women are led by Brittany Cohen, daughter of former SU star Dr. Hal Cohen, and granddaughter of longtime (37 years) Bear men's assistant Stan Cohen.

Bears will be looking to secure a playoff spot with payback against the Dragons, who shot lights out (13 x 28 from the arc) in Cortland last month.

Oswego/Plattsburgh should be a monumental tussle.  Winner will have karma going into the last two weeks of the season.


Thebear,
Checked out local listings but of course in our Florida perch we lack that white blanket of yours on which T-W relies to bounce those satellite rays. Limited to snowy NYS. See, there is a drawback to the good life.

As for the Cohen connection (Brittany as of this writing showing way in a Dragon romp), Stan also a Cortland native and a product of Cortland High before heading to Hobart where he captained and paced the Statemen cagers. Our paths use to cross not only when the Bears visited Cortland, but also sometime during the summer at one of his favorite haunts -- Bob's Bar-b-que!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 09:54:40 PM

Appears Oswego holds off Plattsburgh 79-76. Lakers by 13 with 4' left. Burgh within 77-76 on S. Thomas trey at 0:14. OSt's C. Burridge lands two ft at 0:04. Cards turn over final bid. OSt 39-33 at half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 09:57:09 PM

Cortland to OT at Potsdam .....57 all
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Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 10:05:40 PM

Oneonta 64, Geneseo 62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 10:19:39 PM

Potsdam 62, Cortland 60 n OT ........Free throw by C. Pierce puts Pdam up by one at 0:39 and J. Lambet ft at 0:24 posts final margin. Bears by 30-24 at half, yield to Corts by five late in reg. when Lambert hits first of two ft at 0:25 for 57-57 tie. Corts miss at 0:02. Corts also get two shots in closing seconds of OT. Neither falls. T. Efese 20 pts. spark Bears on 7x11fg, 3x5 3s. .Pierce 16 pts, 10 rebs. Bears 23x45fg, 32-25 reb. CSt's J. Winter 21 pts(8x11fg, 3x6 3s), J. Smith 14 pts, H. Hefele 14 pts(all second half), K. McMahon 9 pts, 7 rebs
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Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 10:22:40 PM

Buffalo St. 92, Fredonia 79

Brockport 80, New Paltz 61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 10:28:45 PM

Buffao St. game actually went to OT with Bengals outscoring Freds 21-8. BS in 39-34 intermission lead but squared at 71 thru reg. J. Simmons 38 pts on 11x19fg, 6x11 3s, 10x12ft. Freds Monahan 23 pts(6x23fg, 2x12 3s), A. Smith 21 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 11, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Interesting look at the future of the SUNYAC, Potsdam ended the game with three freshmen and two sophomores,
Dragons had four sophs and a freshman.  Cortland soph Winter is the real deal, although playing 45 minutes probably hurt him in the end game.

Potsdam 2nd semester pickup Tony Efese led Bears with 20 and could be a future star with his length (6-4 guard), athleticism, and shooting range.  Potsdam soph Curtis Pierce, altho an undersized four at 6-2, once again stands out with a double double including some very tough inside moves.

Two tired teams tomorrow afternoon when the Bears face the Lakers.  Lakers won a track meet at Plattsburgh, then get an early morning bus ride through the frozen tundra,' Bears were able to spread minutes with 9 players seeing at least 10 minutes, so may be a little more rested with slower pace, and no travel.

Again kudos to Doug Logan, Mark Larson, and Dan Liedka for a first rate broadcast by the Time Warner
folks.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2011, 10:57:03 PM

Brockport guns on 34x65fg target to dismiss New Paltz. Port in 36-21 command at the break. NP within four at 8:56. Z. McTigue bucket stops slide. Finishes with 14 pts, 8 rebs in 23'. G. Williams 14 pts in 36'. Hawks H. Wichard 17 pts, S. Taylor 16 pts, 6 rebs
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Post by: magicman on February 11, 2011, 11:08:27 PM
Bear,
Talked with Chad Burridge tonight before the game and thanked him for making 2 foul shots and a jumper  against Cobleskill the other night to save face for the SUNYAC. Asked him to spare the heroics against Plattsburgh but he managed to garner scoring honors of 18 points along with 8 boards. Met his parents after the game. Nice folks who follow the chatter on the boards. They'll be looking to say hello to you tomorrow afternoon. Nice win for the Bears tonight. Good chance it put them in the playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2011, 12:36:22 AM
Just back from the Oswego-Plattsburgh game. Final score of 79-76 was surprising because the Lakers had a 73-60 lead with 4:03 to go and were still up by 10 at 77-67 with 1:46 remaining. A basket by Cards Errol Daniyan cut the lead to eight at the 1:25 mark and 3  trips to the foul line by the Cards over the next minute resulted in 4 more points making the score 77-73. Cardinals foul with 23 ticks left and Lakers miss the front end of a 1&1. Cards rebound and Steve Thomas hits a 3 pointer that narrows the lead to a single point with 14 seconds on the clock. Oswego takes a timeout and Plattsburgh tries for the steal on the inbounds pass. Cardinals fail on the steal attempt and let too much time tick off the clock before finally fouling Chad Burridge with 4 seconds remaining. Burridge calmly makes both free throws and Plattsburgh fails to get off a final attempt.

Burridge was the leading scorer as he finished with 18 points (5x19 fg,0x2 3's, 8x10 ft), but did struggle from the field as he was double teamed much of the night. He also led the Lakers with 8 rebounds. Chad had a monster dunk early in the 2nd half as he grabbed a missed shot by a teammate and with perfect timing slammed it home. Hayden Ward was close behind Burridge with 17 points(5x10 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x6 ft) and 6 rebounds. Ryan Sheridan had 11 points (5x11 fg, 0x3 3's, 1x2 ft) with 6 boards, and Conor Managhan also added 11 points (5x12 fg, 1x5 3's,).

Plattsburgh was led by freshman Shavar Fields with a career high of 16 points (5x14 fg, 6x9 ft) and 7 rebounds. Shavar had a pretty good dunk as well midway through the 1st half on a nice feed from Chris Ruiz. Errol Daniyan had 15 points (7x16 fg, 1x4 ft)and 9 rebounds. He also had a huge dunk on a feed from Carl Munnerlyn. Ruiz scored 13 points (3x14 fg, 1x4 3's, 6x7 ft) and had 6 assists while Munnerlyn chipped in with 10 points as did Steve Thomas. Cardinals won the battle of the boards 46-40 but lost the game at the foul line as they only converted 18 of 33 attempts.

Oswego now stands at 13-1 in conference play, 18-3 overall and although they haven't clinched the regular season crown I don't see anybody with a chance of taking it from them. A win on Saturday afternoon against Potsdam will clinch it for the Lakers. Even if they lose their last 3 games to finish at 14-4 and Brockport or Plattsburgh ties them with the same mark, Oswego holds the tiebreaker over both teams.  I think the worst they do is go 3-1 in their last 4 games, but actually think they will win out. So all the SUNYAC teams can plan on making hotel reservations in Oswego for the SUNYAC Final Four. I don't think you'll see the 8 seed beat the 1 seed this year.

Plattsburgh, with the loss tonight is now tied with Brockport at 10-4 for 2nd place but the Golden Eagles hold the tiebreaker over the Cardinals. Plattsburgh will take on Cortland Saturday afternoon.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 10, 2011, 10:36:25 PM
As always Magic's comments are insightful ( except that one about the Laker loss to Cards this weekend).  Must've been something he ate as that comment was more of the inciteful nature (thems fighin' words)!! ;D

with age,
Spoke to your "New" team's coach after the game Friday night and congratulated him on Oswego's outstanding season. Gave him a big hello for you. He returns the hello and must have been browsing on the Liberty League board as he wondered if you were coming north this weekend to see Clarkson play Hobart. Did you make the game? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2011, 08:15:56 AM
The positives that came out of Oswego's win over Plattsburgh tonight is that Oswego will pick up some more support in the Top 25 Poll (if they defeat Potsdam on Saturday). Oswego's position as the #1 team in the East region improved as it was not only another regional win but since Plattsburgh is a regionally ranked opponent it helped out that part of their resume also as the Lakers improve to 3-1 against regionally ranked opponents. Should Oswego fail to win the SUNYAC tournament their chances for getting a Pool C bid are excellent and just got better.

For the Cardinals it just may be the old adage that it's tough to beat a team 3 times if these 2 schools should meet again in the SUNYAC tournament. It's a little too early for that kind of talk because at the very least Brockport and Buffalo State will have something to say come tournament time. As much as Coach Stockwell and the Laker team want to win the tournament and grab the automatic bid, I'd like to see them get upset in the Championship game. Obviously I hope it's my hometown Cards that do so, but regardless of who does it, I believe Oswego will get a Pool C bid and this will give the conference 2 teams in the NCAA tournament. The only other conference team that is regionally ranked is Plattsburgh and it would take a perfect storm for the Cards to get a Pool C bid after losing to the Lakers Friday evening. The best the Cardinals could do is win out and lose the SUNYAC championship game which would give them a 20-8 record overall and a 19-6 regional record. There are 5 teams from 4 conferences ranked above them in the regional rankings (of which one is Oswego who would win the SUNYAC). Plattsburgh would need 3 of those other teams to win their league's automatic bid. Those leagues with the teams are the Liberty League (Hobart), the Empire 8 (Ithaca) and the UAA (Rochester). That would leave Stevens and Plattsburgh as the top 2 teams competing for a Pool C bid from the East. And there's no guarantee that either one would get a bid when put side by side with the top teams from the other regions. Plattsburgh would have to finish stronger than Stevens to jump over them in the rankings and would then be sitting at the top of the East region. This same scenario plays out if Stevens get the Empire 8 automatic bid and Ithaca is the team that Plattsburgh has to jump over. If Oswego, Rochester, Hobart, or Ithaca doesn't get an automatic bid then that team or teams will be at the top of the East Region awaiting a Pool C bid. I'm not sure if the East will get more than 1 Pool C bid. If Oswego, Rochester and Hobart are all vying for a Pool C bid then I could see the East possibly getting 2 but if the mix is anything less than 2 of those 3 teams I think we any get 1 and maybe none. Of course all this postulating is based on the fact that the teams I've mentioned continue to play well and avoid a serious swoon in their final 4 or 5 games.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2011, 02:38:49 PM
Four games this afternoon all with 4 PM starts.

Geneseo State  @    New Paltz State
Chances are slim that the Hawks host a playoff game with Buff St holding a 3 game lead. Hawks would like to slip no further than 5th however to avoid a 1st round matchup with the top 3 teams, none of whom they have beaten this year. Geneseo with an opportunity to move into a tie for the 8th and final playoff spot. Not on Senior Day in Hawktown. New Paltz wins 85-76.       
   
Cortland State  @    Plattsburgh State
Both teams coming off tough losses last night. Will the Cards have a bigger letdown than the Red Dragons since their game had more on the line? Eight Cardinal Seniors say no way! Plattsburgh over the young Cortland squad 78-67.       
   
Brockport State  @    Oneonta State
Golden Eagles firing on all cylinders right now. Winners of 5 in a row, all by 15 points or better. Oneonta finally got a win last night after 5 straight losses. Don't think they make it 2 in a row. Brockport wins, but it should be a close one 70-66.
       
Oswego State  @    Potsdam State
Oswego can clinch the regular season title with a win today over the Bears. Potsdam's overtime win last night was their thrill for the week. Upsetting the top ranked Lakers is too much to ask. Oswego clinches home court as they down the Bears 80-69.           
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2011, 05:34:45 PM

What the $%^#$&! Just had a chance to check live stats .........Cortland 70, Plattsburgh 49 with 7-plus minutes left!!! Pburgh by two at the half  ...........Hey, Magic, you playing games or what ????!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2011, 06:04:29 PM

Appears to be final .....Cortand 83, Plattsburgh 69  ......so much for cold hands. Dragons connect on 15 of 22 3-pointers!!! Lights out performace. Lead by 23 with about 10 minutes left before gutty Pburgh comeback pulls within 10 and time left .......Corts close it out from the line. J. Smith 24 pts(8x13fg an 7x9 3s); J. Winter 22 pts(7x12fg and 4x6 3s); J. Connolly 17 pts(6x11fg and 4x6 3s); K. McMahon 15 pts. Winter adds seven assists, three steals. For Pbugh it's C. Ruiz 20 pts(8x19fg); E. Daniyan 15 pts, 19 rebs

Oswego 53, Potsdam 47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2011, 06:10:54 PM

Tougher day for Magic ......Oneonta 76, Brockport 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2011, 06:27:19 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 12, 2011, 06:10:54 PM

Tougher day for Magic ......Oneonta 76, Brockport 68
Tougher still.......Geneseo 58 New Paltz 46
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2011, 07:20:20 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 12, 2011, 06:04:29 PM

Appears to be final .....Cortand 83, Plattsburgh 69  ......so much for cold hands. Dragons connect on 15 of 22 3-pointers!!! Lights out performace. Lead by 23 with about 10 minutes left before gutty Pburgh comeback pulls within 10 and time left .......Corts close it out from the line. J. Smith 24 pts(8x13fg an 7x9 3s); J. Winter 22 pts(7x12fg and 4x6 3s); J. Connolly 17 pts(6x11fg and 4x6 3s); K. McMahon 15 pts. Winter adds seven assists, three steals. For Pbugh it's C. Ruiz 20 pts(8x19fg); E. Daniyan 15 pts, 19 rebs

Jdex,
Your Red Dragons were throwing up rainbows that were nothing but net, one after the other. With 1:37 left in the 1st half the Cardinals were up 30-19 Then Cortland made their last 3 shots of the half all 3 pointers, 2 by Winter and 1 by Connolly, at the buzzer and just like that the lead was 2 at the break. Cortland came out of the locker room on fire and hit their first 6 shots of the 2nd half. 3 were from behind the arc and 3 were 2 pointers. They scored 15 points in 2 minutes and 22 seconds and just like that had a 10 point lead. Plattsburgh managed a single 3 pointer by Chris Ruiz during that time and the score was 43-33. Finally Jeremy Smith misses a shot with 16:49 left to play. The Red Dragons would then make their next 10 shots of which 7 were from long distance and with 8:01 left in the game had opened up a 70-47 lead. In 12 minutes of play in the 2nd half they had scored 42 points shooting 16x17 from the field with 10 3 pointers. Up 23 with 8 minutes to play and Spanbauer had his players milking the clock. The rest of the game saw the Cortland players passing up shots they were draining just minutes before because it was early in the possession. They only scored 2 field goals in the final 8 minutes, getting 9 of the final 13 points from the line. Pretty impressive display for a bunch of underclassmen. As "thebear' stated yesterday the future of the SUNYAC was on display today in Memorial Hall. Smith and Winter are outstanding. Was also impressed with the play of McMahon and Connolly. Interesting that those 4 accounted for 78 of Cortland's 83 points. Haven't seen a shooting display that I witnessed today in a long, long, time if ever. Cortland shot 18x23 in the 2nd half and 10 for 12 from beyond the arc. For the game they shot 15x22 (68.2%)  from long distance, which was better than the 12x19 (63.2%) they shot from the free throw line. ??? I'd just like to know how this team has fared so poorly this season? It certainly all came together for them today. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 12, 2011, 07:50:11 PM
Bears gave Lakers all they could handle, but came up short.  Bears were down 2 at 47-45 with less than a minute to play with the ball. C. Gilkes strips and goes unmolested for the score.  Bears then had to foul and Lakers made what they had to.  Another very UGLY Sunyac game, Bears only 32% from the floor, but 13x17 from the FT line kept them in the contest tile the very end.  Lakers got solid, but not spectacular efforts from Gilkes, Chad Burridge, and Conor Monaghan.

With Hobart loss at SLU today, and Lakers head to head win at Ithaca, Oswego looks like a lock for a Pool C Bid if they don't win the SUNYAC tourney at Home, Laker Hall being a very tough venue for visitors.

Good to see many Bears back from the past including Christian Turner, MD, and Edane Barton, rising star at Bloomberg, both stalwarts on the Bears elite 8 squad of 04-05.

Magic, with Cards reeling from weekend double dip, and trip through the frozen tundra to Jerry Welsh Gym, should be a solid tussle on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2011, 11:46:34 PM

Something in the air, you say:

How bout New Paltz scoring first points of the game on a trey after 4:55, and Geneseo first scoring with a deuce after 7:29. Then NP spurts to 7-2 lead, only to witness 16-0 Gens run. Knights out to 27-20 halftime lead and extend to as many as 17. J. Drazan's 10 pts. in 9' top Geneseo whose R. Riefenhauser has 12 rebs, 7 pts, 4 assts. NP S. Taylor with 13 pts, 7 rebs, 5 stls

Oswego puts Potsdam in 25-20 halftime deficit. Bears stick around as noted by theBear. Lakers bench comes up big, C. Gilkes 14 pts, 9 rebs(6off) in 23' and C. Monaghan with 11 pts in 20'. C. Burridge has 10 pts, 7 rebs. Pdam ''paced'' by C. Pierce, R. Duquette, T. Efese with 8 pts. apiece.

Magicman:
Kinda waiting for this sort of breakout by Cortland. Certainly capable as theBear has attested (from sizzling long range display in Potsdam's first game with Dragons). All about youth, growing, building confidence, finding roles. Nine players have started at least five games. A week ago Corts look like jayvee outfit to Oswego's varsity. Today's 15 3s a school record. Winter (who added seven assists, seven rebounds, four steals) and Smith are long-range of the first order as sophs. And both have penetrating skills.  The 6-4 frosh Connolly wasn't even seeing court time till past all-league D. Marshall left the team at semester break. Others can pull the trigger from outside with accuracy as well. One, fr R. Kenny, hasn't even seen duty of late
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 14, 2011, 12:56:12 PM
Except for the the Lakers and Brockport - pretty "topsy turvey" week in the SUNYAC.  Did make it up to see Knights vs Statesmen to answer your question Magic.  Observations on the LL board.  Also saw a "lot of the players" from the previous years and "my new old Coach." Wish my Knights could have gone out stronger but I can always root for the team by the Lake! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2011, 05:44:42 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 14, 2011, 12:56:12 PM
Except for the the Lakers and Brockport - pretty "topsy turvey" week in the SUNYAC.  :D

  I probably agree with half of that statement....! 3 way tie for 2nd right now. BENGALS at Brockport tommorrow night (BENGALS won the first game) and then they host Magicmans- Cardinals Friday night (Plattsburgh won the first game). Win those 2 then all the tiebreakers go BUFF States' way (regardless of what happens Saturday vs. Potsdam)!

 With all 4 top seeds already securing a home court playoff game for next Tuesday,  I find magicman playoff scenarios make for vey interesting reading. I harken back to the 09 playoffs when 3 of the top 4 seeds lost first round games. That gives BENGALS, (and Cards and B Port) hope that we could host the semi's and finals next weekend! (AHHHHH Niagara Falls is actually pretty nice this time of year ;))

P.s. Magicman if you venture west this weekend I'd guarantee a great time (and a free Room at the Seneca Niagara casino and Hotel)!!! :)

   
Edited to add the following question.    When do the next Regional rankings come out?? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 14, 2011, 10:45:45 PM
The Bear's Crystal Ball (actually frosted) suggests the SUNYAC Regular Season will end up as follows

Oswego 17-1 Home Ice Throughout the playoffs.  Laker Hall is a tough place to play, especially with the pride of Syracuse reffing the games.  They draw Cortland in the quarters

Brockport 12-6 - 'port wins tie breaker through a dizzying set of comparisons.  They draw New Paltz, who loses a tie breaker to the Bears, suspect the Bears would rather play the Eagles then the Bengals.

Buff State 12-6 - gets the Bears at home Back to Back.  & Potsdam has to travel  ~800 miles between Saturday and Tuesday.  Bengals could get the two seed, but I think beating the port at home with so much at stake is a TOUGH order.

Plattsburgh 11-7 - Gets Oneonta at Home, but Cards conceivably lose 4 of their last 5.  Not a great mindset to take into the 'YAC playoffs.

Geneseo & Fredonia on the outside looking in.  Knights especially disappointing as their non-conference performance should made them a contender.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2011, 01:49:01 AM
   Interesting playoff scenario there..Bear! I will let the 2nd/3rd place work itself out tommorrow however the bottom 4  are somewhat different in my book. My biggest dissagreement would be with New Paltz and Cortland. I actually could picture New Paltz adding to thier current 4 game losing streak and not winning another game. They have 2 road games left at rival Oneonta and Oswego. I predict that they finish at 7-11.

  Cortland, who has 3 home games left continues thier strong finish by beating Oneonta tommorrow and then easily dispatching Geneseo friday and probably facing a disinterested Brockport (who will be stuck at 3rd place :) by the time Saturday rolls around). The only thing that probably keeps Cortland out of 5th place would be an Oneonta team that beats New Paltz on Friday and cliches 5th by virtue of the fact that they beat Oswego and Cortland didnt! I predict that both Cortland and Oneonta finish 8-10

   Potsdam should lose 2 out of their last 3 (you guess which 2 teams Magicman and and I think will beat the Bears on Tuesday and Saturday ;) which puts them at 7-11.

   So I have it ....5th seed Oneonta at 8-10 (beat Oswego and has beaten Cortland once), 6th Cortland 8-10 (lost Oswego twice and can only split with Oneonta) , 7th Potsdam 7-11 (split with New Paltz and beat Brockport) and 8th New Paltz 7-11 (got swept by B port). Keep in mind BEAR that if B Port should somehow finish 3rd and the BENGALS 2nd (HIGHLY LIKELY) then that could possibly reverse the order for a tied New Paltz (which beat the BENGALS once >:() and Potsdam (which is presently 0-1 vs the BENGALS)

  After Tuesday I'll offer my match-ups ...and might even predict how the BENGALS will win the SUNYAC ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2011, 04:23:58 AM
Bengals - I guess that's why they play the games.

I doubt Brockport will be disinterested against Cortland.  The two SUNY "Phys Ed" schools have a natural rivalry.

I agree that there will be two 8-10 and two 7-11 teams in the 5-8 spots, and the tiebreakers get dizzying, although Oneonta holds the trump card with that win over Oswego.

Unfortunately the balance of the SUNYAC tends to make this a one bid conference for the NCAA's.  When the 2 and 3 seeds have six in conference losses, that tends to kill any chances for a pool C. 

I think the Lakers, if they go 17-1 in the 'yac have a pool C bid locked.  Only chance for two bids is for someone to beat the Lakers at home during the SUNYAC tournament.

As for tonight, I think all of the home teams win, Oswego 77-64 over NP, Brockport 81-80 over Buff State,  Potsdam 70-67 over Cards, Cortland 66-61 over Oneonta, Geneseo 68-58 over Fredonia.  Mid week road games are tough on the visitors this late in the season.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 15, 2011, 04:23:58 AM
Unfortunately the balance of the SUNYAC tends to make this a one bid conference for the NCAA's.  When the 2 and 3 seeds have six in conference losses, that tends to kill any chances for a pool C. 

I dont know if I agree that 6 losses "kill any chances for a pool C." bid. Last year Oneonta went 13-5 for the regular season (is 12-6 that far removed from 13-5)? Even by NCAA standards? I doubt anyone knows for sure. One thing is for sure. After 2/25 all questions will be answered.

And  I couldnt agree more with your statement that...
Quote from: thebear on February 15, 2011, 04:23:58 AM
that's why they play the games.
Nuff said ;)





We'll talk again after the BENGALS take care of Brockport tonite! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2011, 02:52:33 PM
Here's how I see the East Bids
UAA - Rochester is a lock, either Pool C or Pool A
SUNYAC Champ - Oswego, who is a lock for a pool C.
Liberty - Hobart, who is a lock for a pool C
Empire 8 - Ithaca/Stevens, One will win E-8, the other is a solid Pool C
AMCC - Medaille only has 5 losses so far, but would probably have to win the league
NEAC - SUNYIT ugh leads, and probably will win the Pool A
That's 6 or 7.

New England is very strong this year, with three top ten teams(Williams, Middlebury, Amherst).  Wouldn't be surprised if they put Middlebury into the East (very close to the border) and have them host a pod.  They might slide another western New England team over as well.

Assuming no conference tournament upsets (Liberty and E-8 are both capable) that leaves Medaille, Hamilton, RPI, and Buff State fighting over one last spot.  according to Massey, the Bengals are at 130, and the others are close to that, so I doubt they even make the Pool C discussion.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2011, 05:44:42 PM
P.s. Magicman if you venture west this weekend I'd guarantee a great time (and a free Room at the Seneca Niagara casino and Hotel)!!! :)
 
Edited to add the following question.    When do the next Regional rankings come out?? ???

Bengalsrule,
Thank you for the kind invitation. I gave it some serious thought. If my darn Cardinals were in a position to claim the regular season crown I probably would have come down. Maybe next year.

The next Regional rankings will be out tomorrow, probably in the early afternoon.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2011, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 15, 2011, 02:52:33 PM
They might slide another western New England team over as well.
Assuming no conference tournament upsets (Liberty and E-8 are both capable) that leaves Medaille, Hamilton, RPI, and Buff State fighting over one last spot.  according to Massey, the Bengals are at 130, and the others are close to that, so I doubt they even make the Pool C discussion.

Bear..You inspire me :D. I too hope that "another western New England team" comes over to the east region. If I had my choice it would be #7 ELMS, whom the BENGALS beat in the Worcester Mass - Coaches vs Cancer Holiday Tourney in Dec.

   As far as the "other" Massey ratings..... RPI is at 108 (moved up 21 spots this week), Hamilton 125 (moved up 25) and Medaille 194 (moved up 5). I would probably add  Nazareth (124)  before Medaille. I have seen Medaille and other teams in the AMCC. If a team gets a Pool C bid out of that conference (other than Laroche) I'd be SHOCKED. That includes Ps Behrend (147). That Conference (Massey rating of 50 out of 54 conferences), in my humble opinion, is horrible!


Quote from: magicman on February 15, 2011, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2011, 05:44:42 PM
P.s. Magicman if you venture west this weekend I'd guarantee a great time (and a free Room at the Seneca Niagara casino and Hotel)!!! :)
 
Edited to add the following question.    When do the next Regional rankings come out?? ???

Bengalsrule,
Thank you for the kind invitation. I gave it some serious thought. If my darn Cardinals were in a position to claim the regular season crown I probably would have come down. Maybe next year.

The next Regional rankings will be out tomorrow, probably in the early afternoon

Sorry to hear that you wont be making it Magicman. Well the offer is good whenever you do come down.

I'll be watching to see if the BENGALS show up in the Ranking :). If not us then probably Nazareth :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 07:41:06 PM
Sure is an awful lot of prognosticating going on today. ??? I have 1 bad day all year and everybody wants to claim my job. :o

Hey bear!! I just opened my copy of The Music and Sound Retailer which came to my store today and spotted a picture of your wife with the President of NAMM, Joe Lamond and Drumstick Manufacturer Vic Firth. I take it that was from your recent trip to Anaheim.

Everybody's in action tonight with all games starting at 8 PM.

Oneonta State  @    Cortland State
If I hadn't witnessed Cortland's shooting exhibition last Saturday I'd probably be picking Oneonta to win this game. But if Jeremy Smith, Jesse Winter, and John Connolly are half as hot as they were that day, then the Cortland variety of Red Dragons will win this game. Cortland 73 Oneonta 70      
 
New Paltz State   @   Oswego State
Burridge and company march on. Hawks will give them a battle tonight but come up a little short.
Lakers take it 82-74        
 
Buffalo State  @    Brockport State
Both teams trying to solidify their hold on 2nd place. Brockport trying to avoid Bengal sweep. Don't think the Golden Eagles fall behind by 24 like last game against Buffalo State. Brockport wins a tight one 85-82.      
 
Fredonia State   @   Geneseo State
The Blues have at it. Think the Knights will sweep the Devils to permanently banish them to the lower depths, where Devils belong. Blue Knights 65  Blue Devils 60        
 
Plattsburgh State  @    Potsdam State
It's been a couple of years since the Cards lost 3 conference games in a row. I don't think they do so tonight. Potsdam's must win game is this Friday at Fredonia. Plattsburgh takes this one 75-68.


Wanted to travel to Potsdam and see this game but couldn't get away. Will be following all the games tonight on live stats. Oswego has their game on streaming video and here's the link:

http://www.athletics.oswego.edu/showcase/#liveevents        
 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2011, 08:37:22 PM

Cortland 45, Oneonta 25 at the half ......6x8 3s, 19x30fg for Corts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 08:45:54 PM
Plattsburgh 30 Potsdam 26.      Cards up 30-21 with 1:35 to go when Bears score 5 unanswered to narrow deficit.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 08:47:33 PM
Oswego with a tip in with 3 seconds left lead New Paltz at the break 31-24.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
Buffalo State leads Brockport throughout the first half. Bengals build lead to as much as 13 on several occasions but Eagles close within 7 at the half 43-36.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 08:58:29 PM
Geneseo and Fredonia locked in an offensive explosion as Geneseo down by 8 early on finally catches the Blue Devils. Blue Knights lead at the half 22-20.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 09:31:38 PM
Cortland wins big over Oneonta 81-59.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2011, 09:33:20 PM

Cortland continues torrid play with 81-59 hammering of Oneonta at home. Bit of payback. Oneonta on Jan. 25 had Corts in 43-24 halftime hole but saw Dragons rally for late lead before bowing 67-61. No OState comeback here from 20 point intermission deficit. Corts by 28 late. Shoot 9x17 in 3s. J. Smith 18 pts(7x11fg, 4x7 3s); J. Winter 16 pts(6x13fg, 4x7 3s); K. McMahon 14 pts(6x12fg); H. Hefele 13 pts(5x7fg), 6 rebs; J. Connolly 12 pts(4x7fg). Just four turnovers. Oneonta's D. Hahn 13 pts, 15 rebs. Impressive!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 09:39:58 PM
Plattsburgh wins a tight one at Potsdam 51-48. Tied at 48 with 2 minutes to go Plattsburgh gains the lead when Carl Munnerlyn hits 1st of 2 free throws with 1:06 to play. Plattsburgh gets the rebound off the 2nd free throw but turns it over with 40 seconds left. Potsdam misses field goal attempt to go ahead with 11 seconds remaining, gets offensive board but turns it over with 7 seconds left. Bears foul Chris Ruiz who makes them both to give Cards some breathing room. Bears turn it over and fail to get final shot. Cards Errol Daniyan is the game's leading scorer with 16 points (7x9 fg, 2x4 ft). Errol just missed a double-double as he grabbed 9 rebounds. Chris Ruiz was the only other Plattsburgh player in double figures with 10 points. The Bears were led by Curtis Pierce and Anthony Williams who scored 10 points each. Neither team shot very well, and both had numerous turnovers,(18 for Plattsburgh, 14 for Potsdam). Plattsburgh held a narrow edge on the boards, 36-35.

Cardinals remain in 2nd place as Buffalo St. is beating Brockport by a 91-75 score with less than 2 minutes remaining.

Oswego game just went final and the Lakers beat New Paltz 68-57.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 10:02:29 PM
Geneseo defeats Fredonia by a score of 50-41.    Abe Miller leads the Blue Knights with 18 points (8x13 fg, 2x4 ft)and is the only player on either team in double figures. Much like the Plattsburgh-Potsdam game. Both teams shot poorly and they had 18 turnovers each. Geneseo won the rebounding battle 31-24.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 10:19:16 PM
Buffalo State with a big win on the road at Brockport 96-83 to once again beat the Golden Eagles by double figures. The game between Buffalo St. and Plattsburgh on Friday just got a lot more meaningful. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2011, 10:52:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 15, 2011, 10:19:16 PM
Buffalo State with a big win on the road at Brockport 96-83 to once again beat the Golden Eagles by double figures. The game between Buffalo St. and Plattsburgh on Friday just got a lot more meaningful. 

I couldnt have said it better myself, Magicman. ;)

As far as the game went...If the BENGALS dont have 30 turnovers and miss 17 free throws... then they would have scored about 130 points! I need say no more about that game. Onto the Arena and a Friday meeting with the Cards!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2011, 11:01:14 PM
Yeah Magic, it was an UGLY barnburner.  

Bears had the ball down one with 16.6 left and 10 left on the shot clock, got off at least three shots, but none hit the rim.  Shot clock violation, Bears foul Ruiz on the inbound, and he is clutch.  Bears get the ball back down 3 with 5.4 left , but turn it over.  

The unbelievably with 1.2 left, Ponesse throws the safety valve out of bounds without touching anyone.  Bears inbound with 1.2 left, Ruiz knocks the Potsdam player out of his shoes outside of the arc, but no call.

Plattsburgh has SO MUCH talent, hard to believe they have lost 5 games in conference...

Potsdam was without .538 3pt shooter Eddie Cross who was ill.  In a 3pt game, can't discount that.

The Bears and Cards shuffle off to Buffalo this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 15, 2011, 11:01:14 PM

The Bears and Cards shuffle off to Buffalo this weekend.

And BUFFALO (State) will be awaiting thier arrival! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 11:30:33 PM
New Paltz hangs with the Lakers for most of the 1st half and has a 4 point lead at 20-16 with 8 minutes remaining.
A jumper by Chris Gilkes and a long range bomb by Conor Monaghan ignite a 15-4 run to close out the half and the Lakers never trailed after that. Up 31-24  at the break they stretch it to double figures early in the 2nd period and other than 1 time when the Hawks cut it to 8 at the 12:18 mark the Lakers were in control. The lead grew to 16 on several occasions as Oswego just took care of business. Chad Burridge once again was the game's high scorer with 14 points (4x13 fg, 0x1 3's, 6x6 ft) an honor he shared with Shareef Taylor of the Hawks (5x11 fg, 0x1 3's, 4x6 ft). Burridge added 10 rebounds to notch a double-double, the only player to do so. Chris Gilkes was 6x6 from the field to total 12 points and Conor Monaghan added 11(3x6 fg, 2x3 3's, 3x5 ft). In addition to Taylor, Matt Devine scored 12 points (4x10 fg, 2x3 3's, 2x2 ft) for the Hawks and Harris Wichard added 10.(3x10 fg, 2x5 3's, 2x2 ft) New Paltz committed 18 turnovers to 13 for the Lakers but the Hawks won the rebounding war 42 to 39.
Lakers move to 15-1 in the SUNYAC and becomes the 1st team in the East Region to reach 20 victories as they improve to 20-3.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2011, 11:37:44 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2011, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 15, 2011, 11:01:14 PM

The Bears and Cards shuffle off to Buffalo this weekend.

And BUFFALO (State) will be awaiting thier arrival! ;)

I wish the Plattsburgh-Buffalo St. game was on Saturday. We are at a distinct disadvantage having to play the Bengals fresh off the bus. When you came North at least you got a night's sleep before you played the Cards. :P
I think the Card's could be in for a rough day.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2011, 11:42:04 PM
Buffalo State's C. Cartwright 29 pts(8x17fg, 2x6 3s, 11x14ft), 6 TOs in 38'; J. Mitchell 20 pts(7x8fg), 11 rebs; G. Carr 19 pts; J. Simmons 18 pts(1x6 3s and sets BS season record with 68), 6 stls, 6 rebs. Bengals 47-28 board domination. Bport's G. Williams 22 pts(10x12ft) 5pf in 29' off bench; J. Ivy 18 pts(8x15fg), 5pf in 28'. Port 27pf, 3 dq'd

Geneseo's A. Miller 18 pts(8x13fg), 7 rebs; M. Baker 9 assts. Freds A. Smith 8 pts, 11 rebs. Devils 13x31fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 01:14:41 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 15, 2011, 11:37:44 PM
I wish the Plattsburgh-Buffalo St. game was on Saturday. We are at a distinct disadvantage having to play the Bengals fresh off the bus. When you came North at least you got a night's sleep before you played the Cards. :P
I think the Card's could be in for a rough day.

Right off the bus Magicman???  I thought that the SUNYAC had the 5 hour rule in effect for all away games. If a school is more than 5 hours away thenn that team leaves the night before and spends 2 nights on the road. I know when the BENGALS play New Paltz and Then Oneonta they always leave on a Thursday and spend the night in Albany. Play Friday at New Paltz spend the night again and then Saturday mornin check out ...play Oneonta and then head back to Buffalo. Plattsburgh to Buffalo 387 miles.. Buffalo to New Paltz 354 miles.

Either Plattsburgh is really tight with a dollar or  they aren't following SUNYAC protocol.

Having said all that I will try not to shed too many tears for your cards :( if they are stuck riding and then playing. ;) I gotta believe that they leave on Thursday! Heck the woman would have to be at Buff State by 4:30 p.m. That means leaving Plattsburgh at 8 a.m.??? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2011, 03:28:51 PM
Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
Medaille may be in  a terrible league, but they are the #6 team in the East regional rankings this week.
The only bad loss they have is to Geneseo, early in the year when the Knights were better than they are now. They also have a win at PS-Behrend, and have played Laroche tough in their first meeting & they will end the season winning at least 10 of their last 11.

Also note that New England has 11 teams in their rankings, including Williams, Middlebury, and Western Connecticut that all sit just a few miles from the NY Border.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 03:58:48 PM
Medaille ranked 6th in the EAST REGION????  >:(??? >:( ??? >:( ???  >:(???

 This team has a Massey rating of 194. Thier strength of schedule played (if i am reading Massey correctly) is 377 out of 411? The bottom 2 teams in the AMCC conference, Franciscan and Penn-state Altoona have 7 total wins, and those are all conference wins. Their non-conference record is 0-12. The SUNYAC bottom 2, Fredonia and Geneseo have a combined non-conference record of 9-4!!!!!!
   
  The 6th place team in the AMCC - DYouville has 6 wins, (all conference wins) and a non conference record of 0-7.  And D'Youville is in a PLAYOFF Position (Tied for 6th).  Add that up and a 3rd of the confernce has a combined non-conference record of 0-19. By comparison, the SUNYAC teams tied for 6th Oneonta and New Paltz have a non-conference record of 5-8.  ::)

I'm just gonna have to wait for Magicman to help me figure this out! :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
Good news for Magicmans  Cards. The Cards will arrive in Buffalo Thursday Night. They are actually scheduled for a shoot around Friday at Noon in the Sports arena.

Now if I could just convince Ruis and Munnerlyn to visit the Falls (it soooo beautiful this time of year ;D ) around...7:45 p.m. ..............Friday night.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2011, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
Good news for Magicmans  Cards. The Cards will arrive in Buffalo Thursday Night. They are actually scheduled for a shoot around Friday at Noon in the Sports arena.

Now if I could just convince Ruis and Munnerlyn to visit the Falls (it soooo beautiful this time of year ;D ) around...7:45 p.m. ..............Friday night.  ;)

Bengalsrule,
Glad to hear that. I didn't know about the 5 hour rule you mentioned earlier. I was just thinking back to the trip you made up to the North Country a couple of weeks ago and remember that you were posting on Friday afternoon as you left the restaurant in Watertown on your way to Potsdam. You did ride with the team didn't you?

Chris and Carl are planning to visit the Falls. Just a little earlier than you'd like. They want to compare the rush they'll get from seeing the great Niagara River with it's voluminous waterfalls, to the thrill it will be as they bury trifecta after trifecta against the Bengals later in the day. ;) 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2011, 06:11:16 PM
Copy of a post I put on the Posters' Poll Board.

"Which team has the longest current winning streak in the country, (tied with WPI and Salem State with 13 in a row) has a 20-3 record, and the 3 losses are by a total of of 7 points. Oh, one more thing, they're not in the top 25 and haven't been all year long. But they have beaten 2 teams that have been ranked a total of 3 times."

The Lakers are also 1 of 3 teams that are ranked #1 in their region and are not in the Top 25. The others are Ramapo ranked #1 in the Atlantic region (although they have been ranked for most of the year but just dropped out) and La Roche ranked #1 in the Middle Atlantic region.

Unfortunately for Oswego even if they win out this week, there are so many teams receiving more votes than they are getting that I don't think they will crack the top 25 next week either. Six or seven teams would have to stumble badly in order for the Lakers to move into the poll.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2011, 07:32:50 PM
Not to mention they have 4 quality post players, and a fine supporting cast.  Plattsburgh and Buff State will not be able to run the hi-low against this team.

Amazing what one lousy one point loss to Oneonta can do to a national ranking.

Of course, unless my Bears for some reason win out this weekend, they will get an all-expense paid trip to Qswego on Tuesday!!!!  Can't wait to see what that weather forecast looks like.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 11:01:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2011, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
Good news for Magicmans  Cards. The Cards will arrive in Buffalo Thursday Night. They are actually scheduled for a shoot around Friday at Noon in the Sports arena.

Now if I could just convince Ruis and Munnerlyn to visit the Falls (it soooo beautiful this time of year ;D ) around...7:45 p.m. ..............Friday night.  ;)

Bengalsrule,
Glad to hear that. I didn't know about the 5 hour rule you mentioned earlier. I was just thinking back to the trip you made up to the North Country a couple of weeks ago and remember that you were posting on Friday afternoon as you left the restaurant in Watertown on your way to Potsdam. You did ride with the team didn't you?

Chris and Carl are planning to visit the Falls. Just a little earlier than you'd like. They want to compare the rush they'll get from seeing the great Niagara River with it's voluminous waterfalls, to the thrill it will be as they bury trifecta after trifecta against the Bengals later in the day. ;) 8-)   


   Ooowwwee Magicman. I may have to sneak this up on the bulletin board. "bury trifecta after trifecta".

  My northcountry trip was....Friday leave Buffalo at 12:30...travel 3 1/2 hours to Watertown where we stopped at a Lovely Old Country buffet....eat for an hour ....continue on the way to Potsdam...arrive at Potsdam around 6:20...search for thebear....play Potsdam at 8 p.m. (after I unsuccessfully searched hi and low for thebear :-\)...beat the BEARS...ride to the Hampton Inn in Plattsburgh.....check in the hotel around 12:30 a.m. ....wake up at 11 a.m. the next mornin...head to Plattsburgh at 1:45p.m.....MEET THE MAGICMAN ;)...and then watch my BENGALS get beat by your Cards. Not the most leisurely of trips :( . Plus your Cards/fans weren't very hospitable.  Hopefully the Arena will be very hostile!

Too bad Ruis and Munnerlyn wont take me up on my offer. My tour would beat anything that Curle could have planned for them ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2011, 11:35:05 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 11:01:02 PM
My northcountry trip was....Friday leave Buffalo at 12:30...travel 3 1/2 hours to Watertown where we stopped at a Lovely Old Country buffet....eat for an hour ....continue on the way to Potsdam...arrive at Potsdam around 6:20...search for thebear....play Potsdam at 8 p.m. 

Bengalsrule,
That's what I don't understand. Your trip from Buffalo to Potsdam was over 5 hours. Why didn't you leave on Thursday and spend 2 nights on the road. Buffalo State must be really tight with a buck. ??? What's the story?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2011, 11:58:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 03:58:48 PM
Medaille ranked 6th in the EAST REGION????  >:(??? >:( ??? >:( ???  >:(???
 
I'm just gonna have to wait for Magicman to help me figure this out! :(

Bengalsrule,
Don't be knocking Medaille. They could make the tournament, your Bengals could make the tournament. You might have to play them. They may beat you!! ;D

Just look at last year. Medaille made the tournament and was in a pod at Plattsburgh along with SUNYIT, Nazareth and Plattsburgh St. Smart money says Naz beats Medaille, and Plattsburgh St. beats SUNYIT. Both the favorites lost and Medaille ended up playing SUNYIT for the right to advance to the sweet sixteen. Now I don't think Medaille is as strong a team this year as they were last year but they are a solid team and I believe they could be competetive in the SUNYAC this year.  Again don't be hung up on Massey. Yes the conference they play in is weak but that doesn't mean they can't play and hold their own against teams from stronger leagues. The regional rankings place a lot of emphasis on wins and losses. That's why they are ranked where they are. But I don't think they'll get a Pool C bid so it won't really matter. I don't think any of the SUNYAC teams will get a Pool C bid either, unless Oswego State gets upset in the tournament. I said last weekend that the only way 2 SUNYAC teams get in is if Oswego gets upset next weekend. I'm hoping that happens and you know who I hope does the upsetting. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 17, 2011, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2011, 11:58:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2011, 03:58:48 PM
Medaille ranked 6th in the EAST REGION????  >:(??? >:( ??? >:( ???  >:(???

I'm just gonna have to wait for Magicman to help me figure this out! :(

Bengalsrule,
I said last weekend that the only way 2 SUNYAC teams get in is if Oswego gets upset next weekend. I'm hoping that happens and you know who I hope does the upsetting. ;D    

Thanks magicman. I feel much better now after  reading this.

(tongue in cheek) ....In my wildest dreams I never thought that you would be pulling for the BENGALS to upset Oswego in the playoffs ;D. I'm honored and hopefully the BENGALS will do there very best to be worthy of your hopes/desires!!!

  Serioulsy..I gotta believe, that SUNYAC finalist with a 13-5 conference record (the same conference record that Oneonta had last year) and a 20-6 overall record ( or even 12-6 conf/19-7 overall) gets a LEAST a look for a Pool C bid if, Oswego wins (and thats a BIG IF), and if all the other favorites in E8 and LL finish first! And I definitly like the SUNYAC runner-up chances better than the AMCC runner ups chances.

  Did I mention, Magicman, that I live less than 3/4 of a mile from the Medaille gymnasium? I have watched this team play at least 3 times. Their 6 point loss at (probable) SUNYAC playoff spectator- Geneseo came as no shock to those of us in the Buffalo area who are familiar with Medailles program. We, Buffalo State, have been trying to get a game with them for the past  4 years and have been unsuccessful ( the schools are 1.5 miles apart). A game that should be a natural ( like the annual Plattsburgh vs. Clarkson/St. Lawrence games, and you guys have to travel 2 hours to play those annual north country rivalries), will never happen because (I believe) the Mavericks could be exposed.

 I dont mean to rag on Medaille (apologies to any Maverick supporters out there). My problem is that the more I have learned, from you and others, about how these system(s) work... the more I became encouraged about the fact a SUNYAC conference (#34 ranked conference - MASSEY) 2nd place team, be it Plattsburgh/ Buff State or whomever, would/should never be ranked behind a 3rd place team from the AMCC (#50 ranked conference - MASSEY).   Coupled with the fact that today, 2/17/2011, BUFFALO STATE is ranked #113 - Massey and Medaille #191 - Massey??? ??? What am I missing???

 I do understand, from what you have said, that  the regionals rankings are based solely on record. But what sense does that make??? Thats like Div 1 - Long Island University being tied in the  AP polls  with Purdue (#11 - AP Poll) or Georgetown (#9-AP) or Florida (#14-AP) because they all have identical 20-5 records! :-\ ???

Hopefully conference, strength of schedule etc. etc. factor in some where. Heck from all that I have read our victory over ELMS (Northeast #8) in Worcester Mass, counts for nothing?!

  Well I dont want to take much more space up right now! I have go go out to the Thruway and switch the "Buffalo Exit"  signs with the "Erie Pa" exit signs before 4 p.m.. And then go over the border to Canada and see if I can get some LEGALLY working girls to help a fella out with distracting some fellas from the North country tommorrow (around say 6:00 p.m. or so) ;).

  GO BENGALS!!!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 02:38:19 PM
Derek Hahn senior center from Oneonta was the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 2-13. Derek had back to back double-doubles as Oneonta was unbeaten last week with wins over Geneseo and Brockport. He had 11 pts and 12 rebounds against Geneseo as they won 62-60 on Friday. He was just warming up for Saturday's huge effort as he scored 23 pts and a career high 20 rebounds against Brockport as the Red Dragons won 76-68. It was his 11th double-double of the season and the 23 points also put him over the 1000 points mark for his collegiate career.  

Last week (week ending 2-5-11) Gerald Williams, junior guard, from Brockport State was not only the SUNYAC Player of the Week he was named to the D3Hoops Team of the Week. Here's the D3 write up:

Gerald Williams
Williams averaged 25.3 points per game while making 14 of 20 from 3-point range, and hitting 60 percent of his shots from the field during a 3-0 week. Williams scored a career-high 30 points on 9-of-12 shooting, including making five of his six 3-pointers during Friday's win over Plattsburgh State. Against Potsdam State, Williams scored seven of his game-high 26 points during an opening 19-0 run. Williams has surpassed 20 points in eight of his last 10 games.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 08:28:29 PM
Full slate of games tonight.

Geneseo State  @    Cortland State
Cortland wins at home and continues their late surge    
 
New Paltz State   @   Oneonta State
Oneonta wins and jumps over the Hawks in the standings.
     
 
Brockport State  @    Oswego State
Oswego wins and Brockports chance for 2nd place is gone      
 
Plattsburgh State  @    Buffalo State
Buffalo St will probably win but I'm picking the Cards    
 
Potsdam State  @    Fredonia State
Want the Bears to win badly but think that Fredonia will take this one    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 08:45:07 PM
Plattsburgh with the slim lead at Buffalo St. 36-33 at the half. Go Cards!! Carl Munnerlyn with 13 and Errol Daniyan with 11 lead the Cardinals. Chris Cartwright with 12 and Justin Mitchell with 9 pace the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 08:47:10 PM
Cortland with an even slimmer lead at the break 32-31.  Jesse Winter with 10 for the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 08:52:25 PM
Like a broken record, Oswego with a slim lead over Brockport at the half 32-29. Port was down 32-21 but scored 8 unanswered in the final 1:46 to close within 3. Sean Michele with 9 and Chad Burridge with 8 lead the Lakers. Jon Ivy with 10 and Kyheem Green with 8 pace the Golden Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 08:56:03 PM
Fredonia with a 25-21 lead over Potsdam at the half. Joseph Monahan with 8 for Fredonia. The Bears are led by 6 pts from Skip Schwartz.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
Oneonta with a 15 point lead over New Paltz early in the 2nd half 35-20.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 09:39:29 PM
Cortland defeats Geneseo 68-58 and gets their 7th conference win. They are now in 7th place with a possibility of moving into 6th place after tomorrow's results. Cortland also helped out the Potsdam Bears as Geneseo can only get to 6 wins by beating conference leader Oswego tomorrow afternoon. I think the Bears just made the playoffs even if they lose out.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 18, 2011, 09:42:18 PM
Cortland conquers Geneseo 68-58 after holding single point lead at the half. Soph 6-9 D. Sternkopf 9 reb, 9 of team's 12 blocks. K. McMahon 19 pts, 13 rebs; J. Winter 18 pts; J. Smith 13 pts. Geneseo's R. Riefehauser 18 pts; A. Miller 4 pts(2x12fg), 5 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 09:46:15 PM
Oswego downs Brockport State  69-61.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 09:48:39 PM
Plattsburgh  and Buffalo State going down to the wire. Tied at 69 with 1:08 to go. Steve Thomas misses 2 free throws, Bengals Glenroy Carr misses a jumper with 31 ticks left. Plattsburgh with the ball takes a timeout. Cards Thomas fouled by Cartwright and goes to the line with 6 seconds left. He misses the 1st, and misses the second and the teams head to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 09:55:47 PM
Potsdam claims a playoff spot as they beat Fredonia 46-43. Go Bears. The Bears were down by 13 with 6:51 to go with the score 41-28. They ended the game with a 18-2 run to pull it out. Tony Efese led Potsdam with 16 points. Skip Schwartz had 11 and Curtis Pierce had 10. Adam Smith with 11 pts led Fredonia. Joseph Monahan with 8 pts at halftime was shut out in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 10:04:44 PM
Plattsburgh and Buffalo State slugging it out toe to toe. 24 seconds left in overtime. Bengals up 79-78. Plattsburgh with a timeout and the ball on a steal by Steve Thomas. Chris Ruiz with a jumper that misses but Errol Daniyan tips it in with 7 seconds left. Bengals Justin Mitchell then scores a layup with 3 seconds to go and the Bengals win a barnburner 81-80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 10:21:08 PM
Oneonta downs New Paltz 78-66  to move into sole possession of 5th place. Troy Talbot with 21 points and Shane Gillette with 12. Derek Hahn taking up where he left off last week with another double-double, his 12th of the season as he has 13 points and 17 rebounds.

Harris Wichard with 23 points for the Hawks. Shareef Taylor with a double-double of 12 pts. and 10 boards. Matt Devine added 10 pts as well. New Paltz is now in 7th place a half game behind Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 11:00:05 PM
Buffalo State wins one at the buzzer to avenge last year's loss up in Plattsburgh when the Cards won at the buzzer. Bengals now have locked up the 2nd seed in the tournament and unless Potsdam can beat the Bengals tomorrow or Cortland can beat Brockport will end up facing Cortland in the quarterfinals on Tuesday.
Bengals were led tonight by Chris Cartwright with 23 points and Justin Mitchell with 21 points and the all important final bucket that was the game winner. Mitchell also had a double-double as he grabbed 13 rebounds to lead in that category. Glenroy Carr had 16 points and Jake Simmons added 15.

Plattsburgh had several opportunities to win this game in regulation and failed to do so. And how they allowed that basket in the final 6 seconds to result in a layup is something I'm waiting for my Buffalo guy to report on. Free throw shooting has cost us some games already this year but I think this one is probably the best example of that. 13 for 30 from the line is pitiful and when one of our best free throw shooters goes 6x13 that really hurts. He's usually money when he's on the line. Cards were led by Errol Daniyan as the big guy poured in 26 points to grab game honors. He also had a double-double as he snatched 12 rebounds. Carl Munnerlyn had 16 points, Chris Ruiz scored 15 points and Steve Thomas added 11. Plattsburgh won the rebounding battle 49-43 and had less turnovers than the Bengals with 12 to their 16. 

Cardinals will clinch the 3rd seed tomorrow with a win or a Brockport loss. I'm guessing both the Cards and the Golden Eagles win.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2011, 11:04:42 PM
I'm guessing the quarterfinals will look like this on Tuesday:

#8 Potsdam @ #1 Oswego

#7 Cortland @ # 2 Buffalo St.

#6 New Paltz @ #3 Plattsburgh

#5 Oneonta  @ #4 Brockport

A Cortland or Potsdam win tomorrow would change things and so would a Plattsburgh loss with a Brockport win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2011, 01:31:58 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 18, 2011, 11:00:05 PM
And how they allowed that basket in the final 6 seconds to result in a layup is something I'm waiting for my Buffalo guy to report on.   

"Buffalo guy Report" -ing. How they allowed that basket in the final 6 seconds???  In 3 words...Outran the opponent. Thats how Justin Mitchell got to the basket. Missed free throw by Thomas, N. Simmons rebounds takes 2-3 dribbles, passes to Mitchell, who runs past Ruiz and over Daniyan for the soft 1 off the glass. Ruiz launchs 1 from inside halfcourt and for a brief moment, memories of 09-10 at Plattsburgh dash through everyones memory. In fact....Magicman.. as the ball traveled from Ruiz towards the basket.. It was so quiet you could have heard a Mosquito sneeze. The ball actually hit backboard and then rim...you know the rest.

BENGALS dressed only 11 players and finished the game with 9!

Great win, Gutsy performance,especially by Mitchell who got an elbow in the mouth from Poneesse and lost a tooth. Got a football mouthpiece from the trainer (who cut off the facemask strap courtside) and then helps finish Cards off!

Potsdam in 14 hours and 28 minutes. (who I predict we will see again next Tuesday).

GO BENGALS ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 01:48:32 AM
Oswego up by 3 at the break surrenders the lead 2 minutes into the 2nd half. Still down 2 at 36-34, the Lakers get an old fashioned 3 point play by Chris Gilke, a bucket by Chad Burridge, and a long range bomb by Jose Uribe to quickly take a 6 point lead. The Golden Eagles manage to stay with a possession or two for the next 7 minutes or so but back to back 3 pointers by Uribe at the 8:23 and 7:27 marks extended the lead to 9 points and a basket by Hayden Ward made it a double digit lead, 54-43. Brockport basket cut it to 9 but Ward buried a 3 and the Eagles never got it below 10 until 2 fouls shots at the end of the game cut it to the 69-61 final margin.

Oswego was once again led by Chad Burridge with 15 points and 8 rebounds. Uribe also had double figures with 11 points. Oswego had balanced scoring as Hayden Ward and Sean Michele both finished with 9 points. Ward added 6 rebounds and Michele had 5 assists.

Brockport was led by John Ivy with 16 points and 7 rebounds. Kyheem Green also had16 points and Gerald Williams chipped in with 10.

Pretty sure the Player of the Year honors for the SUNYAC is a one horse race and that horse of course is young Mr. Burridge. I say young because he's only a junior and next year will be back to wreak further havoc upon the SUNYAC.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 01:56:19 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2011, 01:31:58 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 18, 2011, 11:00:05 PM
And how they allowed that basket in the final 6 seconds to result in a layup is something I'm waiting for my Buffalo guy to report on.   

"Buffalo guy Report" -ing. How they allowed that basket in the final 6 seconds???  In 3 words...Outran the opponent. Thats how Justin Mitchell got to the basket. Missed free throw by Thomas, N. Simmons rebounds takes 2-3 dribbles, passes to Mitchell, who runs past Ruiz and over Daniyan for the soft 1 off the glass. Ruiz launchs 1 from inside halfcourt and for a brief moment, memories of 09-10 at Plattsburgh dash through everyones memory. In fact....Magicman.. as the ball traveled from Ruiz towards the basket.. It was so quiet you could have heard a Mosquito sneeze. The ball actually hit backboard and then rim...you know the rest.

BENGALS dressed only 11 players and finished the game with 9!

Great win, Gutsy performance,especially by Mitchell who got an elbow in the mouth from Poneesse and lost a tooth. Got a football mouthpiece from the trainer (who cut off the facemask strap courtside) and then helps finish Cards off!

Potsdam in 14 hours and 28 minutes. (who I predict we will see again next Tuesday).

GO BENGALS ;)


Bengalsrule,
I'm a little confused by what you're reporting. Ruiz took a shot in overtime with 7 or 8 seconds left that missed and was rebounded by Daniyan who put it back in for the basket and an 80-79 Plattsburgh lead. What Thomas free throw are you talking about in overtime? I thought Buffalo State inbounded the ball after Daniyan's basket and somehow went the length of the court for a layup that gave them the win. Please explain.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2011, 11:38:23 AM
Apologies magicman...(thats why 1 should never post at 1:30 am after 3 hours of celebrating). The missed free throw took place in regulation and Ant Hamer missed the game winner. Just begin my replay of Mitchells winner by substituting the word "inbound" instead of "rebound" to Norm Simmons and leave the rest the same and you have the your answer.

BTW do you know how to text? I'm dying to find someone who would be keeping track of the Cortland/b port game. Cant do that and watch the BENGALS but with us having SENIOR DAY ( for lone senior Glenroy Carr) and Cortland has no seniors...I imagine thier game would be over /ahead of ours by 15 mins or so. We really do it up for our seniors! ;)..I feel that Corland will win and Potsdam will lose setting up a Buff State/New Paltz quarter! I also believe that the Cards will beat the Blue Devils settin up Cortland/Plattsburgh, Oneonta/B port and Oswego/Potsdam quarters!!

Hmmm who knows? Oswego beat potsdam the first time by 13..2nd time by 6.....could Potsdam pull off the 1 point upset? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 04:50:15 PM
Halftime scores:

Oswego 31 Geneseo 19

Buffalo St. 46  Potsdam 36

Cortland 34  Brockport 29
Cortland opened up a 17-4 lead over the Eagles but Port came back to get within 1 at 21-20. Cortland back on top 34-26 but a 3 pointer at the buzzer by Brockport's Stephen Sisson narrows it to a 5 point lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 04:54:44 PM
Plattsburgh leads Fredonia 44-27 at the half.

Cardinals Carl Munnerlyn hits his first 5 shots of the game, all 3 pointers. He ends up going 7x9 from the field and 6 of 8 from long distance. He has 20 points at the break. Chris Ruiz also with double figures in the 1st half as he has 12 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 05:32:24 PM
Final score. Buffalo State 81 Potsdam 70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 05:41:58 PM
Final score Oswego 54 Geneseo 50.

This was a much closer game than Coach Stockwell probably wanted to see especially after the Lakers opened up a double digit lead 7 minutes into the game. The lead grew to as much as 14 points before a Geneseo basket cut it to 12 at the break. Geneseo came out of the locker room  with a purpose and outscored the Lakers 14-2 over the first 5 plus minutes of the 2nd period to knot the score at 33. The Blue Knights were led by Mike Hoy, who scored 11 of those points on 2 long distance jumpers a layup and 3 free throws. From that point on there were 3 lead changes and 4 ties before the Lakers forged a 52-46 lead with 2:41 left in the game. Shortly thereafter a Chad Burridge dunk made it 54-46 but Geneseo got back to back layups from Abe Miller to close within 4 with 57 seconds remaining. After an Oswego timeout, the Lakers turned the ball over but Geneseo misfired on a three with 18 seconds left, got the rebound and missed again with 8 seconds left. Lakers' Ryan Sheridan is fouled but misses both free throws that were really meaningless as there was only 3 seconds on the clock.
Lakers as usual led by Chad Burridge with 17 points (7x13 fg, 1x4 3's, 2x4 ft), and 5 rebounds. Hayden Ward added 13 points (3x9 fg, 3x4 3's, 4x4 ft) and 5 rebounds as well.
Mike Hoy was the only Geneseo player in double figures as he garnered the games' scoring honors with 23 points (7x14 fg, 3x6 3's, 6x7 ft) and 5 boards. Abe Miller had 7 points, 7 rebounds, and 3 blocked shots. Lamont Stokes was the high rebounder in the games as he had 10 boards. Both teams struggled with their shooting as evidenced by the score. Oswego shot 35 % from the field, 18 of 52 and only 26% from long distance, 6 of 23. Blue Knights weren't much better shooting 38% from the field, 17x45, and 27% from behind the line, 4x15. Foul shooting was even as Oswego went 12 for 18 and Geneseo went 12 for 17.
Geneseo had a big margin in rebounds as they had 39 to the Lakers 26, but the Blue Knights had more than double the turnovers as they committed 17 to Oswego's 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 05:43:42 PM
Final score Plattsburgh 78 Fredonia 57.

Plattsburgh never trailed in this game as they grabbed an early lead and were up by double figures with 11:44 to play in the first half. Both Carl Munnerlyn and Chris Ruiz were on fire and between them had 8 three pointers at the half. Up by 17 at halftime the Cards increased their lead to as much as 26 as this game was never close. Cardinal reserves saw plenty of action as Coach Curle went to his bench often.
Chris Ruiz led the Cardinals and was the game's high scorer with 22 points (9x15 fg, 2x4 3's, 2x2 ft). Carl Munnerlyn was close behind as he tallied 21 points (7x10 fg, 6x9 3's, 1x2 ft) with 20 of those coming in the 1st half.
Errol Daniyan added 11 points (3x5 fg, 5x7 ft) and 8 rebounds. Josh Bruno came off the bench to score 9 points.
Kevin Mitchell was the only Fredonia player to score in double digits as he had 15 points (6x11 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x2 ft) and 4 steals. Rebounds were pretty even with the Cards grabbing 36 to Fredonia's 35,and both teams had 16 turnovers. Plattsburgh shot 54% from the field and 47% from long distance.

Cardinals will now host New Paltz on Tuesday in the 1st round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 05:52:54 PM
Final  Brockport 66 Cortland 60.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2011, 05:55:20 PM
Brockport sinks Cortland 66-60, going 24x35 from the stripe to CSt's 4x4. Eagles J. Ivy 22 pts(7x11fg); K. Green 13 pts, D. Klein 11 pts, 8 rebs. Corts 14x38 3s. J. Smith 17 pts; J. Winter 14 pts, 9 assts, 5pf; H. Hefele 12 pts, 5 pf; K. McMahon 9 rebs, 4pf; D. Sternkopf 7 rebs, 4 pf. Was 62-60 at the minute mark
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
Final standings in the SUNYAC

1.    Oswego             17-1
2.    Buffalo St.         13-5
3.    Plattsburgh        12-6
4.    Brockport           11-7
5.    Oneonta             8-10
6.    New Paltz           7-11     Wins the tiebreaker over Cortland & Potsdam by virtue of their split with Buffalo St.
7.    Cortland             7-11      Wins the tiebreaker over Potsdam by virtue of their split with PLattsburgh
8.    Potsdam             7-11  
9.    Geneseo             5-13
10.  Fredonia              3-15


Quote from: magicman on February 18, 2011, 11:04:42 PM
I'm guessing the quarterfinals will look like this on Tuesday:

#8 Potsdam @ #1 Oswego

#7 Cortland @ # 2 Buffalo St.

#6 New Paltz @ #3 Plattsburgh

#5 Oneonta  @ #4 Brockport

A Cortland or Potsdam win tomorrow would change things and so would a Plattsburgh loss with a Brockport win.

My quarterfinal prediction from yesterday held up and those will, in fact, be the Tuesday night matchups.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 07:34:23 PM
Congratulations to the Oswego Lakers for winning the conference regular season crown with a 17-1 record. The only blemish on their SUNYAC schedule was a 2 point double overtime loss to Oneonta. Mr. Burridge and company have put together an outstanding year and hopefully can continue to make some noise in the postseason. I'll be rooting for you. 

Hope the Lakers and their backers won't mind if I root against them in the playoffs though, because Oswego already has a ticket to dance. They are a lock to get a Pool C at large bid. My Alma Mater, Potsdam, would consider the year a lot more successful if they could somehow upset Oswego on Tuesday. That would perhaps help out my hometown Plattsburgh Cardinals get their ticket to go dancing and the YAC would have twice as much to cheer for.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2011, 09:56:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2011, 07:34:23 PM
Congratulations to the Oswego Lakers for winning the conference regular season crown with a 17-1 record.
Hope the Lakers and their backers won't mind if I root against them in the playoffs though, because Oswego already has a ticket to dance. They are a lock to get a Pool C at large bid. My Alma Mater, Potsdam, would consider the year a lot more successful if they could somehow upset Oswego on Tuesday. That would perhaps help out my hometown Plattsburgh Cardinals get their ticket to go dancing and the YAC would have twice as much to cheer for.

Ditto on A- Congrats to Oswego for winning the regular season crown!

            B- Hoping that Potsdam pulls the upset Tuesday night...Go Bears!
                                                               and
            C - Hoping the SUNYAC has twice as much to cheer for next week!



GO BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!! ;)   GO BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D    GO BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2011, 10:26:53 PM
Buffalo State Bengals on a roll lately as they end the regular season with 8 straight wins. They have to watch out for a young Cortland team that can shoot lights out. I know the Cardinals are probably glad they don't have to face Red Dragons in the 1st round after the display they put on last week in Memorial Hall. Think my friend from Buffalo isn't crazy about the prospect of Cortland coming to town on Tuesday either. I never got so many phone calls in so short a time span in my life as I did this afternoon concerning the score of the Brockport-Cortland game. :D

Oswego facing the 8th ranked Bears seems like a sure thing. But then 9th place Geneseo almost handled the Lakers today in Max Ziel Gym. And 2 weeks ago Coooooooooobleskill (I had trouble spitting that one out) almost beat Oswego. With a lot more on the line perhaps the Lakers will resemble the team that took care of business night in and night out.

Four games. Eight teams. Dreams of the Big Dance to fire everyone up. All we need to do is to think back to the carnage of 2 years ago when 3 of the bottom 4 seeds won quarterfinal games. And 8th seeded Brockport beat 5th seeded Fredonia for the Tournament Championship and the automatic bid.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2011, 02:01:42 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2011, 10:26:53 PM
Buffalo State Bengals on a roll lately as they end the regular season with 8 straight wins. They have to watch out for a young Cortland team that can shoot lights out. I know the Cardinals are probably glad they don't have to face Red Dragons in the 1st round after the display they put on last week in Memorial Hall. Think my friend from Buffalo isn't crazy about the prospect of Cortland coming to town on Tuesday either. I never got so many phone calls in so short a time span in my life as I did this afternoon concerning the score of the Brockport-Cortland game. :D

  I will say that in my 4 plus years around this program I have never seen the BENGALS clicking on as many cylinders as I see them now. Nor have I seen them this confidant! In the past they would have folded in some of the games that they won this year. 5 Overtime games (I gotta believe that that is a SUNYAC high) and 4 of them wins.

  Heck it be nice if just the top 4 teams went.... then the BENGALS ( and the Cards) would already be 1 game away from the finals! ;).

  I like the BENGALS chances Tuesday vs. Cortland. We know Cortland well as they do us ( 1 of Cortlands assistants was an assistant coach at Buff State a few years ago). I truly believe that the BENGALS have high hopes for these playoffs! I wish them well! ;)


                                                  GO BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 20, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
Finally back in the 'dam after an interesting weather weekend in Central NY & the Finger Lakes.

Didn't know if anyone noticed that in the Bears' win at Fredonia, the winning basket was by freshman Tony Efese, who sank a three from beyond half court at the buzzer for the victory.  Brings back memories of another freshman, two time D-III player of the year, Leroy Witherspoon, who sunk a 40 footer at the buzzer against Augustana on their court to tie in regulation in the national championship game in '81.  Bears went on to win their first title in OT.

Much rather have drawn the Lakers and a three hour bus ride, than the Bengals and a six hour trip through the snow belt.

Last game vs. Oswego in Potsdam was competitive, Bears had a chance to tie under a minute, but mishandled for a breakaway layup.

Beating a team three times in a season is always a tough order.  Not a lot of secrets.

That's why they play the games.  I see that Rochester has already clinched an AQ.  Still think the Lakers will host a pod if they win out in the SUNYAC tournament.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 20, 2011, 10:34:06 PM
Video?

Does Potsdam have any information sitting around on the 1981 team? We're working on pumping up our annual NCAA Tournament archive pages.

http://www.d3hoops.com/archives/men/1981
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2011, 09:23:18 AM
I have a bunch.  I'll check around. 

I think we had game film reduced to video tape a few years back. 

I can probably get one of our techies to copy the tape to a digital format.

I have quite a bit of the archived stories from the local papers etc.

There's also a ton of stuff on the '85-87 streak etc.

I'll try to feed it to you as I dig it out.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 21, 2011, 09:54:24 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 21, 2011, 09:23:18 AM
I have a bunch.  I'll check around. 

I think we had game film reduced to video tape a few years back. 

I can probably get one of our techies to copy the tape to a digital format.

I have quite a bit of the archived stories from the local papers etc.

There's also a ton of stuff on the '85-87 streak etc.

I'll try to feed it to you as I dig it out.





I have a friend who has a copy he keeps threatening to show me, in case you need it
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 21, 2011, 07:39:40 PM
Its 25 years since the undefeated 86 team and 30 years since the 81 team won in OT.  I wish that I had a copy of either of those games.  I would pay the asking price especially the 86 game in Grand Rapids.  You would think that the college would have done something but it never happened.  Hopefully this years team can make some new memories tomorrow night against Oswego.  They are young but talented.  If they stay together they will be at the top of conference the next couple of years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2011, 02:31:17 AM
Looking at Massey (I know not exactly what the committee looks at, but many of the same criteria)

The East Looks Like this:

Rochester (UAA) - 25th in D-III
Ithaca (E8) 41 in D-III
Oswego (SUNYAC) 53 in D-III
Stevens (E8) 70 in D-III
Hobart (LL) 71 in D-III
RPI (LL) 74 in D-III
Buff State (SUNYAC) 112 in D-III
Skidmore (LL) 120 in D-III

My Take:

AQ - Rochester
Ithaca In
Oswego In
Stevens In (AD on Selection Committee)
Hobart LL Winner In, other team on Bubble
RPI LL Winner In, other team on Bubble

AMCC - Medaille is in 3rd, but PS-Behrend is just over the border, could easily be moved into the East.
NEAC - SUNYIT is the 2 seed, but much better at home than on the road

I think Buff State is a bubble team.  Will need to at least make the SUNYAC finals to get a pool C bid, and that may be a push with the strength of Western New England teams & Keystone & PS-Behrend (close PA teams) in the mix as well. 

Any upset in the conference tournament, some team getting the AQ other than Ithaca/Stevens, Hobart/RPI or Oswego/Buff State further hurts the Bengals chances.

The way the SOS calc works, road losses to sub 500 teams, really kill your SOS rating, and Buff State dropped games to sub .500 Oneonta & New Paltz back in January. 

SUNYAC tourney starts tonight.  GO BEARS

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2011, 01:46:41 PM
I mentioned on this board weeks ago when "with age" was wondering why Oswego wasn't getting any love in the Top 25 polls that timing is everything. Unfortunately the Lakers were the recipient of bad timing and a schedule that lagged behind a number of other teams. I said if they keep winning they may crack the Top 25 right around the last week of the regular season. And yesterday the new poll came out and look who's sitting in the #24 spot. Way to go Lakers. They jumped over 7 teams as their point total went from 20 to 63. Currently Oswego has the 7th best D3 won-loss record in the country at 22-3 and the Lakers now own the nations longest winning streak that stands at 15 straight. (Salem State in the MASCAC conference has also won 15 straight but with a 19-6 record they only received 1 point in the recent poll.)

Rochester has moved up to #14 in the latest poll and Ithaca has re-entered the poll as they recieved 8 points in the others receiving votes category. No other team from the East region was mentioned.       
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2011, 06:07:50 PM
Tonight's Games

Potsdam State  @    Oswego State      7:00 PM
Laker's fresh off their Top 25 ranking will be too much for the young Bears. Oswego should take this game 75-63. Hope I'm wrong on this one. Sorry Mr. & Mrs. Burridge. I'm rooting against you here. ;D
 
Oneonta State   @   Brockport State      7:00 PM
I expect this game to be close but Golden Eagles will squeak out the win 74-69. 
   
Cortland State  @    Buffalo State      7:00 PM
Unless the Red Dragons shoot like they did against my Cardinals they'll be on the short end of this score. Bengals on a misson and they can't count on a Pool C bid. Buffalo State wins 77-70   
   
New Paltz State  @    Plattsburgh State      7:00 PM
Cardinals would like to give their fans a last hurrah at home. Eight Cardinal Seniors have never lost a SUNYAC tournament game. They won't want this one to be their first. Plattsburgh over the Hawks 82-73. 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 22, 2011, 08:45:52 PM

Buffalo State much the superior tonight in spilling Cortland 75-56. This one virtually over early -- as in 12-0 Bengals liftoff. Go on to 32-16 domination by the half and in charge by 23 early in second period. Buffs controlled inside play with 49-32 rebounding margin. Neither made a trey in first half and Corts finished 6x28.....live by the three, die by ...... J. Simmons 22 pts(10x18fg), 6 rebs; J. Mitchell 15 pts(5x10fg), 7 rebs. Bengals play final portion of second half minus G. Carr and N. Simmons, both dq'd for leaving bench during court disturbance. Carr with 9 pts, 7 rebs. Dragons have J. Winter 18 pts(8x19fg), 4 assts; J. Smith 12 pts; H. Hefele 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2011, 08:55:32 PM
Top Seeds all won at Home.  Friday Night pairings are Plattsburgh vs. Buff State in the opener, 'port squares off against the Lakers in the Battle for Lake Ontario.  Should be a thrilla.  Hopefully snowstorms will hold off until Sunday.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2011, 09:24:14 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats New Paltz 72-57. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2011, 09:27:03 PM
Oswego State over Potsdam 64-50

Brockport over Oneonta 84-75
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 12:22:03 AM
Plattsburgh State started 5 senior's tonight in their game against New Paltz and midway through the 1st half it was beginning to look like a repeat of Senior Day when Cortland spoiled the party by beating the Cardinals 83-69. The Cardinals grabbed the early lead and held it for the first 7 minutes but the Hawks caught them and went ahead 16-14 with 13:51 to play and they never trailed the rest of the period. Led by Harris Wichard's 16 points and Shareef Taylor's 10 points New Paltz managed to forge a 6 point lead with 4:35 remaining in the 1st half. Wichard hit from long distance and followed that with a 2 point jumper to make the score 31-25 and a drive by Taylor with seconds remaining sent them into the locker room with a 41-34 advantage. Steve Thomas, who was questionable before the game with a toe injury, got the start and led the Cardinals with 12 first half points. New Paltz controlled the boards decisively in the 1st period as they had 25 rebounds to Plattsburgh's 15. Probably the most telling statistic of the 1st half was at the free throw line. New Paltz went 10 of 14 from the stripe while Plattsburgh made one trip to the line and was 0 for 1.
Fortunately in basketball there are two halves, and the Cardinals came out on fire as they opened the period with a 13-2 run and took the lead 47-43 with 14:11 to play in the game. After the Hawks Taylor hit a basket to cut the lead to 2, the Cards went on another 13-2 spurt and with 8:47 remaining had opened up a 60-47 advantage. Chris Ruiz was the player who stepped up to lead the Cardinals as he scored 14 of the teams 26 points in those 2 runs and Reggie Williams had back to back offensive rebounds with putbacks to give the Cardinals their first double digit lead of the night. Steve Thomas followed with back to back acrobatic drives after New Paltz had cut the lead to 8 to pretty much end any hope the Hawks had for a comeback. The Cardinals defense shut down the Hawks so completely in the 2nd half that they could only manage 16 points in the period and 2 of those came at the final buzzer, that the refs allowed, but looked to be too late. Their 2 main scoring threats, Wichard and Taylor only scored 7 points between them in the period and Wichard's basket was the questionable one at the end of the game.
Wichard led the Hawks with 18 points (6x13 fg, 3x6 3's, 3x5 ft) along with a team high 8 rebounds in 35 minutes. Shareef Taylor had 15 points  (4x9 fg, 0x2 3's, 7x10 ft) in 37 minutes.

Plattsburgh 's Chris Ruiz was the game's high scorer with 23 points (7x21 fg, 2x7 3's, 7x10 ft) and managed a double-double  as he was the leading rebounder in the game as well with 10 boards. Ruiz also logged the most playing time as he was on the floor nearly the entire game playing 39 minutes.  Fellow senior Steve Thomas was close behind Ruiz with 21 points (8x15 fg, 2x3 3's, 3x5 ft) in 35 minutes. Senior Errol Daniyan just missed another double-double as he had 13 points (6x15 fg, 1x3 ft) and 9 rebounds in 35 minutes.

Plattsburgh trailing in rebounds by 10 at the break came back to win that battle finishing with 44 to 42 for the Hawks. The Cardinals had, I believe a season low in turnovers with only 7 while New Paltz committed 13.

Next up for Plattsburgh is the rubber match with Buffalo State as they will take on the Bengals Friday night at 6 PM on Oswego's court. With each team winning on their home floor this neutral court matchup will certainly be interesting. Over the past 5 years these teams have met 10 times and Plattsburgh holds a slight 6-4 advantage. However in the last 2 years both teams have held serve on their home court with Plattsburgh winning 2 close games in the Burgh 80-76 this year and 88-86 last year. Buffalo State has won both times in the big city and both games have went to overtime as the Bengals prevailed 81-80 this year and 90-87 last year.       
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 23, 2011, 02:19:17 AM
You know I just may mosey on over to Oswego and root for my "new old coach's" team.  Don't worry Magic I'll root for Plattsburgh to get to the finals too!!  Know you'll know this - I assume the final is held on Saturday at Oswego no matter who the contestants are?!  Am really glad to see some SUNYAC representation on the d-3 top five poll.  Didn't check the pollsters poll yet.  Be interested to see in "some love" is shown over there too from anyone other than the Magicman! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 02:37:25 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 22, 2011, 02:31:17 AM
Looking at Massey (I know not exactly what the committee looks at, but many of the same criteria)

The East Looks Like this:

Rochester (UAA) - 25th in D-III
Ithaca (E8) 41 in D-III
Oswego (SUNYAC) 53 in D-III
Stevens (E8) 70 in D-III
Hobart (LL) 71 in D-III
RPI (LL) 74 in D-III
Buff State (SUNYAC) 112 in D-III
Skidmore (LL) 120 in D-III

My Take:

AQ - Rochester
Ithaca In
Oswego In
Stevens In (AD on Selection Committee)
Hobart LL Winner In, other team on Bubble
RPI LL Winner In, other team on Bubble

AMCC - Medaille is in 3rd, but PS-Behrend is just over the border, could easily be moved into the East.
NEAC - SUNYIT is the 2 seed, but much better at home than on the road

I think Buff State is a bubble team.  Will need to at least make the SUNYAC finals to get a pool C bid, and that may be a push with the strength of Western New England teams & Keystone & PS-Behrend (close PA teams) in the mix as well. 

Any upset in the conference tournament, some team getting the AQ other than Ithaca/Stevens, Hobart/RPI or Oswego/Buff State further hurts the Bengals chances.

The way the SOS calc works, road losses to sub 500 teams, really kill your SOS rating, and Buff State dropped games to sub .500 Oneonta & New Paltz back in January. 

SUNYAC tourney starts tonight.  GO BEARS

Bear,
When the new regional rankings come out on Wednesday afternoon I think they might look like this:

1. Oswego State
2. Rochester
3. Ithaca
4. Stevens
5. Hobart
6. Buffalo State

I don't know if Buffalo State can get a Pool C bid  or not. I think it would need to be an almost perfect combination of occurrences for that to happen. Rochester already has a Pool A bid as we know and if Buffalo State is hoping for a Pool C then we have to assume Oswego won the SUNYAC. The Bengals have to hope that Hobart wins the Liberty League bid and not RPI. They would also need Ithaca to win the E8 bid and hope Stevens loses in the semis and doesn't make the championship game. Buffalo State has to beat Plattsburgh on Friday night and a loss to Oswego on Saturday would give them a 17-7 regional record. A first round loss on Friday by Stevens would leave them with an 18-7 regional record, 1 game better than the Bengals but the 1st round loss by Stevens might give the edge to the Bengals. I doubt it will but you never know. Hamilton was looking good for a Pool C a couple of years ago, then lost in the semifinals of the LL tournament and got bypassed by the selection committee. If there are 2 teams selected from the East and all of the above teams get the Pool A bid then Stevens and Buffalo State might both get in. The bigger problem is that all the other Pool A bids need to go to a whole bunch of favorites because if teams like  Augustana, Becker, Ramapo, Concordia(Wis), St. Norbert, Franklin & Marshall, and Ferrum, just to mention a few, get upset in their tournaments they'll eat up a lot of those 18 Pool C bids and the East might only get 1 team with an at large selection. Most of those teams I just mentioned are from conferences that, like the SUNYAC, will most likely only get 1 bid. But if the favorites get upset then two teams will make it but those upset favorites will take a lot of Pool C bids away from teams that are looking to get one, like the Bengals. Personally I hope my Cardinals beat the Bengals on Friday and then none of what I said will matter. ;D            
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:13:39 AM
SUNYAC semifinals at Oswego State Friday Feb. 25th

Semifinal #1 6 PM

#2 Buffalo State vs #3 Plattsburgh


Semifinal #2 8 PM

#1 Oswego State vs #4 Brockport State

Championship Game at Oswego State

Saturday Feb. 26th Time is 4 PM     Now giving the time of this game on the SUNYAC
                                                        website as 4 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:38:01 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 23, 2011, 02:19:17 AM
You know I just may mosey on over to Oswego and root for my "new old coach's" team.  Don't worry Magic I'll root for Plattsburgh to get to the finals too!!  Know you'll know this - I assume the final is held on Saturday at Oswego no matter who the contestants are?!  Am really glad to see some SUNYAC representation on the d-3 top five poll.  Didn't check the pollsters poll yet.  Be interested to see in "some love" is shown over there too from anyone other than the Magicman! ;)

with age,
Yes the final is also held at Oswego, so now you need to get a hotel room and spend the night. ;D I'm thinking of going myself but my wife is telling me there's going to be a snowstorm on Friday. :-\ 

I gave the Lakers just enough love on the Posters' Poll. I have them at #17 (I moved them up 1 spot from last week) and it was just enough to get them into the Top 25 there.  They are still not getting a whole lotta love though as 6 of the 12 voters have them unranked. I figured once I brought up their longest winning streak in the country stuff more guys would take notice and they did but some guys still need convincing.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
The following link is for an article that was posted on the SUNYAC website. It was a story that appeared in the Buffalo News on February 21st. It is a story about Jake Simmons who was last year's SUNYAC Rookie of the Year and current SUNYAC scoring leader. Take the time to read it.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article347508.ece
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 04:48:59 AM
A quick recap of the Oswego State-Potsdam game that was won by the Lakers 64-50.

The Lakers trailed 3-2 and 5-4, when tied at 7-7 at the 14:23 mark they erupted for a 17-3 run that gave them a 24-10 lead with 6:28 to play in the half. The Bears cut it to 27-22 but Ryan Sheridan hit a layup at the buzzer and the Lakers took a 7 point lead at the half. Potsdam hung around for the 1st 5 minutes of the 2nd period but the Lakers regained a double digit lead that once again reached 14 points with 12: 30 left to play. It reached as much as 18 and was never less than 12 from that point on.

The Bears had 2 players that reached double figures. Curtis Pierce was the games' high scorer with 18 points (8x17 fg, 2x3 ft) and 7 rebounds. Tony Efese had 11 points (5x10 fg, 1x5 3's) and 6 boards.

Lakers scoring leader was Conor Monaghan with 15 points (5x9 fg, 2x4 3's, 3x3 ft). Hayden Ward was the major contributor of the night as he had a double-double of 12 points (4x8 fg, 2x2 3's, 2x2 ft) and 13 rebounds, 5 of them on the offensive end. Chad Burridge added 13 points (4x10 fg, 0x2 3's, 5x7 ft) and 4 rebounds. The Bears won the rebounding battle 36-28 but also had 18 turnovers to only 12 for Oswego.

Bear's season comes to an end but the outlook with all those freshmen and sophomores seems promising.

Oswego improves to 23-3 and stretches their winning streak to 16 games which is the nation's longest as they pass Salem State's 15 game winning streak.

Oswego has beaten Friday's opponent, Brockport, twice this season but both games have been close as the Lakers took a 3 point decision in Brockport 74-71 before winning at home last weekend 69-61. I expect another closely contested game on Friday evening.      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 05:25:37 AM
Brockport got a solid effort from the entire starting five as they all ended up with double figures as they defeated Oneonta 84-75 Tuesday night. Gerald Williams led all scorers with 21 points as he hit on 7 of 12 shots from the field. Zack McTigue had a double-double with 11 points and 10 rebounds while  Kyheem Green and freshman Jon Ivy both had 17 points. The other starter Derek Klein added 12 points.

The Golden Eagles opened up a sizeable lead 6 minutes into the game as they got 11 points from McTigue in tghe first half and his jumper gave then a 20-6 edge with 13:56 to play. The Red Dragons came back and cut the lead to 6 on 3 occasions in the half but went into the break down by 11 at  43-32.
Port came out to start the 2nd period and had two big dunks by Kyheem Green in the first  40 seconds of play but Derek Hahn responded with one of his own for Oneonta and rather than fall further behind after those dunks by Brockport Oneonta instead narrowed a 13 point deficit all the way down to 2 at 51-49 with 14:41 left to play. Butr that was their high water mark as the Eagles quickly built the lead back to 9 in less than a minute and the game never got closer than 2 possessions the rest of the way.

Ononta was led by Troy Talbot with 18 points and 5 assists. Derek Hahn added 14 points and got another double-double with 15 rebounds as well. Brian Hooks chipped in with 12 points as he hit a trio of 3 pointers.

Oneonta's season comes to an end, while Brockport has to figure out a way to get by the Lakers in their 3rd meeting on Friday night.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2011, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
The following link is for an article that was posted on the SUNYAC website. It was a story that appeared in the Buffalo News on February 21st. It is a story about Jake Simmons who was last year's SUNYAC Rookie of the Year and current SUNYAC scoring leader. Take the time to read it.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article347508.ece

I second that suggestion!!! ;) The story may bring a tear to your eye. :'(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2011, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 02:37:25 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 22, 2011, 02:31:17 AM
The East Looks Like this:

Rochester (UAA) - 25th in D-III
Ithaca (E8) 41 in D-III
Oswego (SUNYAC) 53 in D-III
Stevens (E8) 70 in D-III
Hobart (LL) 71 in D-III
RPI (LL) 74 in D-III
Buff State (SUNYAC) 112 in D-III
Skidmore (LL) 120 in D-III

My Take:

AQ - Rochester
Ithaca In
Oswego In
Stevens In (AD on Selection Committee)
Hobart LL Winner In, other team on Bubble
RPI LL Winner In, other team on Bubble

AMCC - Medaille is in 3rd, but PS-Behrend is just over the border, could easily be moved into the East.
NEAC - SUNYIT is the 2 seed, but much better at home than on the road

I think Buff State is a bubble team.  Will need to at least make the SUNYAC finals to get a pool C bid, and that may be a push with the strength of Western New England teams & Keystone & PS-Behrend (close PA teams) in the mix as well. 

Any upset in the conference tournament, some team getting the AQ other than Ithaca/Stevens, Hobart/RPI or Oswego/Buff State further hurts the Bengals chances.

The way the SOS calc works, road losses to sub 500 teams, really kill your SOS rating, and Buff State dropped games to sub .500 Oneonta & New Paltz back in January. 

SUNYAC tourney starts tonight.  GO BEARS

Bear,
When the new regional rankings come out on Wednesday afternoon I think they might look like this:

1. Oswego State
2. Rochester
3. Ithaca
4. Stevens
5. Hobart
6. Buffalo State

I don't know if Buffalo State can get a Pool C bid  or not. I think it would need to be an almost perfect combination of occurrences for that to happen. Rochester already has a Pool A bid as we know and if Buffalo State is hoping for a Pool C then we have to assume Oswego won the SUNYAC. The Bengals have to hope that Hobart wins the Liberty League bid and not RPI. They would also need Ithaca to win the E8 bid and hope Stevens loses in the semis and doesn't make the championship game. Buffalo State has to beat Plattsburgh on Friday night and a loss to Oswego on Saturday would give them a 17-7 regional record. A first round loss on Friday by Stevens would leave them with an 18-7 regional record, 1 game better than the Bengals but the 1st round loss by Stevens might give the edge to the Bengals. I doubt it will but you never know. Hamilton was looking good for a Pool C a couple of years ago, then lost in the semifinals of the LL tournament and got bypassed by the selection committee. If there are 2 teams selected from the East and all of the above teams get the Pool A bid then Stevens and Buffalo State might both get in. The bigger problem is that all the other Pool A bids need to go to a whole bunch of favorites because if teams like  Augustana, Becker, Ramapo, Concordia(Wis), St. Norbert, Franklin & Marshall, and Ferrum, just to mention a few, get upset in their tournaments they'll eat up a lot of those 18 Pool C bids and the East might only get 1 team with an at large selection. Most of those teams I just mentioned are from conferences that, like the SUNYAC, will most likely only get 1 bid. But if the favorites get upset then two teams will make it but those upset favorites will take a lot of Pool C bids away from teams that are looking to get one, like the Bengals. Personally I hope my Cardinals beat the Bengals on Friday and then none of what I said will matter. ;D           

I agree with MAGICMAN! ;) #6 in the EAST!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2011, 12:30:32 PM
...and rising!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2011, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
The following link is for an article that was posted on the SUNYAC website. It was a story that appeared in the Buffalo News on February 21st. It is a story about Jake Simmons who was last year's SUNYAC Rookie of the Year and current SUNYAC scoring leader. Take the time to read it.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article347508.ece

Agreed -- that's been in our What We're Reading section for a couple days. Currently fourth down on the list on the front page.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2011, 03:31:03 PM
Magic - you basically confirmed what I said.  

East has 4 AQ's - UAA, E8, LL & SUNYAC.  Possibility of two more with AMCC (Medaille) & NEAC (SUNYIT).  If either of those two wins their league, the Pool C's in the East become very scarce.

Way too many good teams around the periphery of New York State, e.g. Middlebury, Amherst, Western Ct, Ramapo, Keystone, PS-Behrend are all less than an hour's drive from the border.

Although Steven's AD (on the D-III basketball tournament committee) has to leave the room when his team's on the table, the committee members are gentlemen mind you, and if push comes to shove, I believe Stevens will get the nod over anyone below them in the Regional ratings.  He will probably be storing up favors during the earlier discussions for just such an eventuality.

I think the only way the SUNYAC gets two bids is to beat Oswego in the finals.  Lakers are a lock for a C and probably to host a pod. (Laker Hall is a great facility).  Again with the conference's power rating so low, I doubt if we get the benefit of the doubt in the event of RPI beating Hobart or Stevens beating Ithaca.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2011, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
The following link is for an article that was posted on the SUNYAC website. It was a story that appeared in the Buffalo News on February 21st. It is a story about Jake Simmons who was last year's SUNYAC Rookie of the Year and current SUNYAC scoring leader. Take the time to read it.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article347508.ece

Agreed -- that's been in our What We're Reading section for a couple days. Currently fourth down on the list on the front page.
Wow! You're good Pat, I never saw it there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 23, 2011, 03:53:44 PM
Final Regional Rankings are out before Selection Sunday: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Here are the new East regional rankings.

East Region
1 Oswego State 22-3 22-3
2 Ithaca 19-5 20-5
3 Rochester 19-3 20-4
4 Stevens 19-6 19-6
5 Hobart 19-5 19-6
6 Buffalo State 15-6 18-6


Pretty much what I had them at except Ithaca jumped ahead of Rochester.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2011, 11:57:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2011, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
The following link is for an article that was posted on the SUNYAC website. It was a story that appeared in the Buffalo News on February 21st. It is a story about Jake Simmons who was last year's SUNYAC Rookie of the Year and current SUNYAC scoring leader. Take the time to read it.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article347508.ece

Agreed -- that's been in our What We're Reading section for a couple days. Currently fourth down on the list on the front page.
Wow! You're good Pat, I never saw it there.

I picked it up after there was a little buzz on Twitter.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 24, 2011, 01:04:51 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2011, 11:57:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2011, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
The following link is for an article that was posted on the SUNYAC website. It was a story that appeared in the Buffalo News on February 21st. It is a story about Jake Simmons who was last year's SUNYAC Rookie of the Year and current SUNYAC scoring leader. Take the time to read it.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article347508.ece

Agreed -- that's been in our What We're Reading section for a couple days. Currently fourth down on the list on the front page.
Wow! You're good Pat, I never saw it there.

I picked it up after there was a little buzz on Twitter.

Good Pick up Pat!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2011, 02:04:33 AM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for Feb 14-20 was Justin Mitchell from Buffalo St.
Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

Justin Mitchell (Buffalo, NY/Bishop Timon ) sophomore forward averaged a double-double (20.7 points and 10.7 rebounds) and shot an astounding 79-percent from the field, helping the Bengals to three wins in the week, pushing the teams winning streak to eight. Mitchell had 21 points and 13 rebounds, including the game-winning layup with four seconds left, in an 81-80 overtime win against Plattsburgh on Friday.  On Tuesday, he finished with 20 points on 7-of-8 from the field and 6-7 from the line and grabbed 11 boards en route to a 96-83 victory over Brockport. He finished the week with 21 points and eight rebounds against Potsdam. The Bengals are the second seed in the SUNYAC tournament.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 24, 2011, 06:37:56 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2011, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2011, 03:52:58 AM
The following link is for an article that was posted on the SUNYAC website. It was a story that appeared in the Buffalo News on February 21st. It is a story about Jake Simmons who was last year's SUNYAC Rookie of the Year and current SUNYAC scoring leader. Take the time to read it.

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article347508.ece

I second that suggestion!!! ;) The story may bring a tear to your eye. :'(
Thank you Magicman for putting the link to this story up.  This is the reason why I love d-3 basketball and the guys who play it for the love of the game. I see that Pat has already noticed it too! :) What a remarkable young man! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 24, 2011, 11:00:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2010, 12:00:27 AM
                                                    Simmons named ECAC Player of the Week

Posted today on the SUNYAC website.....

Buffalo State's Jake Simmons (Rochester/School for the Arts) has been named the Men's Upstate Basketball Player of the Week by the Eastern College Athletic Conference (ECAC) for the week ending November 28th.

(3rd paragraph)
...Simmons leads the SUNYAC through 3 games, averaging 26.7 points-per-contest, and has also hit a leaque best 18 3 pointers. He is also 2nd in the conference, averaging 3.0 steals-per-game

  Less than 4 years ago Jake spent nearly 1 month in the hospital, partially paralized, following a nearly tragic accident. Everyone knows someone who has their rags to riches story, but folks close to the BENGALS program know that there is no 1 in recent BENGAL memory who has endured more than Jake has over the past 5 years.

  Kudo's to this hard working young man!

I'm glad everyone is finding out about Jake. Guys like him make D3 fans, not only at Buff State, but across the nation proud. Heck you dont even need to be a hoops fan..just a HUMAN fan. You can't help but feel good for the kid.

He makes those of us at Buff State feel like winners no matter what happens tommorrow at Oswego.

Thanks again Magicman and Pat for the post(s)! ;)

P.s. But do want to beat the Cards tommorrow night Magicman! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 12:09:52 PM
Anyone heard if the weather may cause a cancellation in tonight's games at Oswego?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2011, 02:10:06 PM
For discussion purposes, here's my whack at All-SUNYAC

MVP - Burridge - Oswego
ROY - Green - Brockport
COY - Stockwell - Oswego

1st Team
Hahn - Oneonta
Green - Brockport
Mitchell - Buff State
Simmons,J - Buff State
Winter - Cortland

2nd Team
Daniyan - Plattsburgh
Pierce - Potsdam
Ruiz - Plattsburgh
Williams, G - Brockport
Michele - Oswego (PG of a 17-1 SUNYAC team has got to be here.)

HM
Ward - Oswego
Monahan - Oswego
Talbot - Oneonta
Wichard - New Paltz
Taylor - New Paltz

HM Bubble
Thomas - Plattsburgh
Cartwright - Buff State

No ticky no washee if you didn't make the playoffs.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2011, 04:19:48 PM
Hey Magic & Bengalsrule

Over on the Multi-Region Board, KnightSlappy has given his latest top 100 with Pool A & C projections.

He suggests that Stevens at #42 is the "bubble" team nationally.  Buff State, depending on where you look at it is in the 60's or 70's (Remember there's a lot of BAD conferences that get AQ's).  'burgh is lower still.

I think the winner of tonight's game will have to win the SUNYAC tournament to guarantee a bid, as an in -region loss will further drop them down the pecking order.

That's why they play the games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 05:28:41 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2011, 04:19:48 PM
Hey Magic & Bengalsrule

Over on the Multi-Region Board, KnightSlappy has given his latest top 100 with Pool A & C projections.

He suggests that Stevens at #42 is the "bubble" team nationally.  Buff State, depending on where you look at it is in the 60's or 70's (Remember there's a lot of BAD conferences that get AQ's).  'burgh is lower still.

I think the winner of tonight's game will have to win the SUNYAC tournament to guarantee a bid, as an in -region loss will further drop them down the pecking order.

That's why they play the games.

Yeah I saw it right after KnightSlappy put it up. Doesn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I said over 3 weeks ago that the only way we get 2 bids is if Oswego loses in the tournament. You hope that something changes and you might be wrong but the writing was on the wall. In Buffalo State's case they made a nice run to win 9 in a row but I think it's too little too late. Cards got no hope for a Pool C. It's win or go home and get ready for the ECAC's.
Hopefully those Plattsburgh Seniors would like to keep their record of never losing a SUNYAC tournament game alive for just 2 more games. GO CARDS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
Big night for Hoops fans in New York State. Lets see if I can pick some winners.

SUNYAC Conference

Plattsburgh  vs Buffalo State at Oswego
As mentioned before these 2 teams are about as even as can be.  Last 4 games have been decided by a total of 10 points with 2 of them going to overtime. Flip a coin to pick the winner. I did and it came up Cards, 78-75.

Brockport  @ Oswego
Brockport has a history of handling the Lakers in the semifinals winning 3 of 4 games against them when they've advanced to this point. 2 years ago an 8th seeded Brockport, on their way to the SUNYAC title, beat the higher seeded Lakers in the semis. I think tonight they do it again as they avenge 2 regular season losses. Golden Eagles soar, 72-68

Liberty League

Skidmore vs RPI at Hobart
These 2 teams also played 2 nail biters during the regular season. Red Hawks won at home by 2, Thoroughbreds won in Saratoga by 4. I've always loved  going to the races at Saratoga so I'm picking the Thoroughbreds to take this one 79-75.

Hamilton @ Hobart
Last hurrah in the Liberty League for the Continentals. They'd love nothing more than to leave the league with the Tournamnet Championship. Hobart won't let them do that. Statesmen will have to win a 3rd straight game over Hamilton and the previous 2 were both close contests. Hobart won each game by 3 points. I think they win this one 74-66
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 06:16:41 PM
Heck I might as well try and pick the Empire 8 as well.

Hartwick @ Stevens
Hawks won a close won at home over the Ducks but didn't play well in New Jersey. I think they play better tonight but Stevens will come away with the win.  73-67.

St. John Fisher @ Ithaca
Bombers trying to win their 1st E8 tournament have handled the Cardinals twice this year. I think this is the year they win that elusive crown. Ithaca takes this one 89-80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 06:46:58 PM
Halftime scores

Buffalo State 40 Plattsburgh 34

RPI 38 Skidmore 34
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 07:56:42 PM
Buffalo State holds off Plattsburgh 88-79 and moves on to the championship game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 08:24:56 PM
Buffalo State got a balanced scoring effort tonight as all 5 starters hit double figures. The Bengals managed to overcome a 7 point deficit  halfway through the period and went on to lead by 6, 40-34 at the half. They came out of the break and hit a couple of early 3 pointers and extended their lead to double digits. The Cardinals came back and closed to within 2 on several occasions but the Bengals would never relinquish the lead. Jake Simmons and Chris Cartwright were the leading scorers for Buffalo State with 20 points each. Justin Mitchell, Norman Simmons and Glenroy Carr were also double digit scorers.  Plattsburgh's Chris Ruiz led all scorers with 35 points in his final SUNYAC contest. Steve Thomas and Errol Daniyan also had double figures for the Cardinals in their final league game as well. Live stats were pulled so I don't have a lot of details other than what I could remember. Lot of points were scored in the final few minutes as the Cardinals were trailing by 7-10 points and sent Buffalo to the line a number of times. Ruiz hit a couple of 3's to make it a 2 possession game and even though the outcome didn't look good for Plattsburgh,  they kept it interesting. Definitely rooting for the Lakers to lose so The YAC can get 2 teams to the dance.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 09:09:36 PM
Brockport Leading Oswego at the half 34-30. Brockport owned the largest lead of the half at 24-15 but the Lakers came back to tie it up on a Chad Burridge bomb 27-27. Port goes back up by 5 on a Gerald Williams triple and Francisco Lantigua layup but another bomb from Burridge makes it 32-30. Williams hits a short jumper with 4 seconds left to make it a 4 point game at the break. Burridge with 9 and Hayden Ward with 7 lead the Lakers. Stephen Sisson with 3x3 from longe range has 9 points and Kyheem Green with 8 lead the Golden Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 10:03:44 PM


Bear,
I could live with most of those picks. Definitely Chad Burridge for MVP and Coach Stockwell for COY. I wouldn't give the Rookie of the Year to a junior though. I like my rookies to be freshmen. ;D I'd probably go with Kevin McMahon who averaged more points(207, 10.4 ppg) and had more rebounds(123, 6.2 rpg) than any other freshman. Jon Ivy for Brockport and the Efese kid from the Bears were right behind. I'd have to put Chris Ruiz on the 1st team, and drop Winter to the 2nd team though.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 10:12:06 PM
Final in Oswego. Brockport State takes down the regular season champion Lakers 74-70. SUNYAC conference just became a 2 bid league.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2011, 10:03:44 PM


Bear,
I could live with most of those picks. Definitely Chad Burridge for MVP and Coach Stockwell for COY. I wouldn't give the Rookie of the Year to a junior though. I like my rookies to be freshmen. ;D I'd probably go with Kevin McMahon who averaged more points(207, 10.4 ppg) and had more rebounds(123, 6.2 rpg) than any other freshman. Jon Ivy for Brockport and the Efese kid from the Bears were right behind. I'd have to put Chris Ruiz on the 1st team, and drop Winter to the 2nd team though.  

Depends on Definition of ROY, last three years, has been a frosh, but before that many examples of junior transfers winning the honor 

I tried to keep to actual positions (C, PF, SF, SG, PG), That's why Winter (PG with best stats) is 1st team, and Ruiz, second, since Mitchell (6'4") is really a SF.  Thought the Cards underachieved with all their returning talent.  Couldn't see two 1st team selections for a 3rd place team, particularly with their supporting cast.

Sorry to see Lakers lose, will probably mean Rochester hosts the pod, and Lakers because of Central location could get sent to a really tough first round opponent like Middlebury or Ramapo.

I think Buff State has too much talent for Brockport, but the way the Eagles shot the three at Laker Hall, Bengals had best bring their A game and get out on the shooters.  Carr/Mitchell vs. Green should be a great battle in the paint.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2011, 10:52:33 PM
Holy c**p Batman, what was in the water tonight?  Losing in conference semis usually means either an unexpected road trip or a really tough first round opponent.  Agree that Lakers will get a C, but no one else in the east is a lock, especially with all the upsets in surrounding states (e.g. W. Ct - ranked, and getting blown out - Danbury isn't far from anywhere in NY).



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2011, 10:03:44 PM


Bear,
I could live with most of those picks. Definitely Chad Burridge for MVP and Coach Stockwell for COY. I wouldn't give the Rookie of the Year to a junior though. I like my rookies to be freshmen. ;D I'd probably go with Kevin McMahon who averaged more points(207, 10.4 ppg) and had more rebounds(123, 6.2 rpg) than any other freshman. Jon Ivy for Brockport and the Efese kid from the Bears were right behind. I'd have to put Chris Ruiz on the 1st team, and drop Winter to the 2nd team though.  

Depends on Definition of ROY, last three years, has been a frosh, but before that many examples of junior transfers winning the honor  

I tried to keep to actual positions (C, PF, SF, SG, PG), That's why Winter (PG with best stats) is 1st team, and Ruiz, second, since Mitchell (6'4") is really a SF.  Thought the Cards underachieved with all their returning talent.  Couldn't see two 1st team selections for a 3rd place team, particularly with their supporting cast.

Sorry to see Lakers lose, will probably mean Rochester hosts the pod, and Lakers because of Central location could get sent to a really tough first round opponent like Middlebury or Ramapo.

I think Buff State has too much talent for Brockport, but the way the Eagles shot the three at Laker Hall, Bengals had best bring their A game and get out on the shooters.  Carr/Mitchell vs. Green should be a great battle in the paint.

Bear,
Puzzled by your statement that you couldn't see two first team selections for a third place team. You had no Cards on the 1st team. Ruiz just took over many games and I thought he should be there.  

Definitely agree the Cards should have been better. Hated to see Oswego lose especially after I lobbied so hard for them on other boards and in the Posters Poll. And the longest winning streak in the country is no longer a SUNYAC team. But I did want 2 SUNYAC schools to go to the Dance. Better than 2 E8 schools. ;D :D 8-)

If the Lakers do get sent somewhere I hope it's Ramapo, but since they also got upset in their tournament I'd be surprised if they host. Wouldn't be surprised to see Oswego host. They still have the best record in the East don't they?

I'm also thinking the Bengals win it. Something like 84-78.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 11:08:06 PM
Bear,
This is a copy of a post I put on the Pool C board.

Five games in the East Region with Pool C ramifications.

1. The top rated team in the East region, Oswego State, got upset by Brockport State 74-70 in a game that just finished. Oswego will take a Pool C bid from some hopeful team as they were projected to get a Pool A.

2. The 2nd ranked team in the East region, Ithaca, was upset by St. John Fisher. If the East region gets 2 Pool C bids they will get the 2nd one. All others need not apply because there will not be a 3rd at large bid coming out of the East. There may not even be a 2nd.

3. The #1 seed in the Liberty League Hobart ( 5th ranked team in the East Region) was upset by the #4 seed Hamilton.

4. The #2 seed in the Empire 8 Stevens Tech (4th ranked team in the East region) was beaten by the #3 Seed
Hartwick 76-73

5. The co-champs of the Liberty League RPI was beaten by the #3 seed Skidmore 76-69.

Buffalo State will face Brockport State for the Pool A bid in the SUNYAC

St John Fisher will face Hartwick for the Pool A bid in the Empire 8

Skidmore will face Hamilton for the Pool A bid in the Liberty League    

 
 



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2011, 11:29:45 PM
Hey Bear,
I figure you already know this but just in case you didn't. Marc Brown, the Sienna star when Mike Deane was the coach there is now coaching at New Jersey City and his team just won the New Jersey AC automatic bid. They started out slowly losing 6 of their first 9 games and 8 of 15. But those 8 losses  were by a total of 25 points. They finished the year winning 12 of their last 13. They ended up 19-9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2011, 11:30:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2011, 11:05:25 PM

Bear,
Puzzled by your statement that you couldn't see two first team selections for a third place team. You had no Cards on the 1st team. Ruiz just took over many games and I thought he should be there.  

Definitely agree the Cards should have been better. Hated to see Oswego lose especially after I lobbied so hard for them on other boards and in the Posters Poll. And the longest winning streak in the country is no longer a SUNYAC team. But I did want 2 SUNYAC schools to go to the Dance. Better than 2 E8 schools. ;D :D 8-)

If the Lakers do get sent somewhere I hope it's Ramapo, but since they also got upset in their tournament I'd be surprised if they host. Wouldn't be surprised to see Oswego host. They still have the best record in the East don't they?

I'm also thinking the Bengals win it. Something like 84-78.    

Sorry magic...My bad.. Daniyan gets edged out by Hahn for 1st team.  Hahn averaged a double double, which doesn't happen often in these parts. Just thought, and stats showed, that Ruiz disappeared in too many Cardinal losses.  

You always had to game plan for Daniyan, but Ruiz had good nights followed by not so good nights.. expect more of a senior.  I'll send you my comprehensive stat analysis on Monday and you can see for yourself.  

Mitchell beat 'burgh twice in last week, so clearly Ruiz has to take a back seat to him, same size, and Mitchell is a force all over the court.  Ruiz seems to take a lot of plays off on defense.  Mitchell competes every moment.

I think Bengals win it if they get out on the shooters, and Green doesn't explode from only being guarded by one guy.
If 'port hits the threes like tonight, they could be a 4 seed champion.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2011, 11:33:07 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2011, 11:29:45 PM
Hey Bear,
I figure you already know this but just in case you didn't. Marc Brown, the Sienna star when Mike Deane was the coach there is now coaching at New Jersey City and his team just won the New Jersey AC automatic bid. They started out slowly losing 6 of their first 9 games and 8 of 15. But those 8 losses  were by a total of 25 points. They finished the year winning 12 of their last 13. They ended up 19-9.

Mark my words, NJCU will be a force to be reckoned with in D-III for the foreseeable future.  They have a charismatic coach, and are located in a basketball hotbed.  Just the table scraps from that area could dominate D-III.  Marc Brown is a quality person, and a great basketball mind, with two outstanding mentors in his dad and Mike Deane.  He will do well, the next Bo Ryan in the making.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2011, 12:20:16 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2011, 10:03:44 PM


Bear,
I could live with most of those picks. Definitely Chad Burridge for MVP and Coach Stockwell for COY. I wouldn't give the Rookie of the Year to a junior though. I like my rookies to be freshmen. ;D I'd probably go with Kevin McMahon who averaged more points(207, 10.4 ppg) and had more rebounds(123, 6.2 rpg) than any other freshman. Jon Ivy for Brockport and the Efese kid from the Bears were right behind. I'd have to put Chris Ruiz on the 1st team, and drop Winter to the 2nd team though.  

Depends on Definition of ROY, last three years, has been a frosh, but before that many examples of junior transfers winning the honor  

I tried to keep to actual positions (C, PF, SF, SG, PG), That's why Winter (PG with best stats) is 1st team, and Ruiz, second, since Mitchell (6'4") is really a SF.  Thought the Cards underachieved with all their returning talent.  Couldn't see two 1st team selections for a 3rd place team, particularly with their supporting cast.

Sorry to see Lakers lose, will probably mean Rochester hosts the pod, and Lakers because of Central location could get sent to a really tough first round opponent like Middlebury or Ramapo.

I think Buff State has too much talent for Brockport, but the way the Eagles shot the three at Laker Hall, Bengals had best bring their A game and get out on the shooters.  Carr/Mitchell vs. Green should be a great battle in the paint.

Bear,
Puzzled by your statement that you couldn't see two first team selections for a third place team. You had no Cards on the 1st team. Ruiz just took over many games and I thought he should be there.  

Definitely agree the Cards should have been better. Hated to see Oswego lose especially after I lobbied so hard for them on other boards and in the Posters Poll. And the longest winning streak in the country is no longer a SUNYAC team. But I did want 2 SUNYAC schools to go to the Dance. Better than 2 E8 schools. ;D :D 8-)

If the Lakers do get sent somewhere I hope it's Ramapo, but since they also got upset in their tournament I'd be surprised if they host. Wouldn't be surprised to see Oswego host. They still have the best record in the East don't they?

I'm also thinking the Bengals win it. Something like 84-78.    
I like your prediction Magicman... ;)
Exhausting day..thurway closed at exit 42...back roads to Oswego.... a normal 2 and a half hour ride took nearly 4 and a half hours. Gotta get ready for Brockport. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 26, 2011, 01:44:23 AM
Man what a day of upsets.  Magic gets wish 1 (2 teams from the SUNYAC to the dance).  Magic gets disappointed (neither of them are Plattsburgh). Have to give the edge to "hot" Bengals but Brockport has proved they can play with the "big boys".  Should be a great game.  Guess I am getting old but for a variety of reasons I elected not to brave the storm and travel to the game.  Since I would have been rooting for my "new old coach" and for the Lakers I guess I have to hope that they either host or get sent to "a pod" in Rochester which may even be better for me.  I certainly think that they go to the dance.  How often do kids "read their press clippings" and just not play their best afterwards?  Hopefully both SUNYAC teams can do a little "damage in the dance!" I certainly think given the right circumstances the talent is there!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 26, 2011, 03:16:42 PM
I have been following my beloved Eagles silently down here in Florida--Congrats to Coach Dunne and the Eagles!! Make us proud and get back to the Dance. Tough road through the Bengals as the matchups are not in the Eagles favor. Good Luck, Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2011, 04:42:46 PM
Sloppy first half being played at Oswego between Brockport and Buffalo State. Bengals were up 23-19 but Brockport's Derek Klein banks one in from long distance at the buzzer to make it 23-22 Bengals at the half.

Buffalo State's Chris Cartwright is injured with 8 minutes left in the half and hasn't returned. That could be a huge problem for the Bengals. Hopefully he can make it back into the game.

Justin Mitchell leads the Bengals with 10 pts, and Norman Simmons with 5. Klein with 6 and Gerald Williams with 5 top the Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2011, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2011, 10:35:13 PM

Sorry to see Lakers lose, will probably mean Rochester hosts the pod, and Lakers because of Central location could get sent to a really tough first round opponent like Middlebury or Ramapo.

Bear,
Rochester women are ranked #1 in the East. They closed out their season today with a win over Emory 81-72 to finish at 20-5. This year the women have priority for the first round of the playoffs so it's possible the Rochester men won't be hosting. Oswego still with a chance to host a pod.

Just noticed that the Rochester men got beat today by Emory 83-72. That won't help their hosting hopes either.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2011, 05:21:14 PM
Buffalo State ahead of Brockport, 48-38 with 7 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2011, 05:27:01 PM
Bengals now ahead 54-40 with under 4 minutes to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2011, 05:44:22 PM
Buffalo State claims the SUNYAC Championship as they defeat Brockport 67-50

Bengals up 23-22 at the half, fall behind early in the 2nd period as Brockport outscores them 6-1 to open the period. Down 28-24 the Bengals go on an 8-0 run that gives them a lead they never lose. Bengals were bolstered by the fact that Chris Cartwright was back on the floor after sitting out the last half of the 1st period with an injury.  Bengals were up 44-38 when Glenroy Carr and Cartwright alternate buckets, the last one being a long range jumper by Cartwright which increased the lead to 53-38 with 4:32 left and basically ended any Brockport State hopes.

Bengals once again got balanced scoring from their starters as all 5 players were in double figures. Both Carr and Justin Mitchell had double-doubles and Cartwright, scorless in the 1st half ended up with 12 points. Carr had 15 points and 11 rebounds,while Mitchell had 12 points and 12 rebounds. Jake Simmons had 11 points and 5 rebounds. Norman Simmons and 10 points and 5 rebounds.

Brockport was led by Jon Ivy who was the game's high scorer with 16 points. Gerald Williams was the only other Brockport player in double figures with 11. Brockport's big guy Kaheem Green led his team with 11 rebounds but only managed 6 points on 3 for 11 shooting. Big factor in today's game was Brockport's poor shooting from both the field 17x55 and long range 5x20. They needed to have a repeat of yesterday's game against Oswego to stay with the taller Bengals. They didn't help themselves with 16 turnovers, many times in crucial situations. They made a number of bad passes where they just threw the ball too high or far and it sailed out of bounds usually right after a Bengal basket, where it was important to come down and answer that score. Bengals won the rebounding battle 42-33 and they committed 13 turnovers.

Bengals now await Monday's selection to see where they might be sent.

Hopefully Oswego and Buffalo get the YAC a few more wins in the postseason. Good luck to both teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 26, 2011, 05:55:17 PM
Congrats to the Bengals, they certainly have the talent to make a run in the NCAA's.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2011, 07:10:39 PM
Thanks for the congrats Magicman and theBear!  Can't wait till Monday at 1 p.m.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2011, 09:53:06 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2011, 07:10:39 PM
Thanks for the congrats Magicman and theBear!  Can't wait till Monday at 1 p.m.

You're welcome "Champ". Now that's a nickname that really fits you this year!! 8-) Plus K. Hope you get a good draw on Monday. I'll be watching the show.

P.S. You need to send me a Personal Message and tell me how and when you got that nickname. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2011, 11:40:29 PM
We'll do!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 27, 2011, 11:20:05 AM
Congrats to the Bengals!! Hopefully the Eagles will get an ECAC bid--They have alot of returners and with some selective recruiting should be very competitive in the future. Enjoy the weather up their fellows--80 and sunny today!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2011, 11:42:41 AM
Thanks for the congrats Scooter!

U r right about the Eagles future. Green ( my choice for POY and the only SUNYAC player ranked in the top 10 in 4 of the 5 categories (8th in Scoring,  1st in Blocks,  3rd in Steals, Assists and 3rd in Rebounds) that SUNYAC uses to determine thier All SUNYAC Team. Ivy, the 2nd toughest slasher we've seen this season (after Purcell of ELMS). Klein the SUNYAC assist leader and Williams the SUNYACs #1 scorer... round out a nucleus that should make your Eagles a a VERY tough team to beat next year! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2011, 11:44:30 AM
Magicman, thebear, JDEX ...etc. Any predictions on the final Regional rankings for the East, which come out later today?? ??? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2011, 12:48:10 PM
Here is My guess:

1 Oswego State (Pool C) 22-3 22-3 Def  Potsdam Lost to Brockport 23-4 23-4 (Beat Buff State twice)
2 Rochester (AQ POOL A UAA) 19-3 20-4 L to Emory 19-4 20-5
3 Buffalo State (AQ Pool A SUNYAC) 15-6 18-6 d Cortland d Plattsburgh d Brockport 18-6 21-6
4 Ithaca 19-5 20-5 Lost to St.John Fisher 19-6 20-6
5 Hobart 19-5 19-6 L to Hamilton 19-6 19-7
6 Stevens 19-6 19-6 L to Hartwick 19-7 19-7

Also
Skidmore (AQ  LL Pool A) 18-8 18-9
St. John Fisher or Hartwick (AQ  E8 Pool A)
Wells (East) or PS – Harrisburg (AQ NEAC Pool A)

With the Upsets in New England and NJ, I can see Elms (Springfield) moved to the East, I can see W. Conn moved to the East, I can see Ramapo moved to the East, all of these teams are above Ithaca/Hobart in the pecking order.

If Fisher & Wells win, my guess, given the NCAA's interest in keeping costs low is that  there will be a four team pod of Buff State, Rochester, Fisher & Wells at Rochester. 

I don't think they will put Buff State and Oswego in the same bracket.  That happened in 03-04 when the Bears beat Reg season champ Brockport, Brockport stayed in Region and Potsdam got sent to the PS-Behrend  Buffalo is very close to Erie.

Buff State could easily be slid to the Great Lakes or Middle Atlantic (Wooster, PS-Behrend or LaRoche)

I could see Skidmore at Oswego, with two teams (Ramapo & W Ct. or Middlebury) moved into the region.

Can't wait for tomorrow!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2011, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 27, 2011, 12:48:10 PM
Here is My guess:

1 Oswego State (Pool C) 22-3 22-3 Def  Potsdam Lost to Brockport 23-4 23-4 (Beat Buff State twice)
2 Rochester (AQ POOL A UAA) 19-3 20-4 L to Emory 19-4 20-5
3 Buffalo State (AQ Pool A SUNYAC) 15-6 18-6 d Cortland d Plattsburgh d Brockport 18-6 21-6
4 Ithaca 19-5 20-5 Lost to St.John Fisher 19-6 20-6
5 Hobart 19-5 19-6 L to Hamilton 19-6 19-7
6 Stevens 19-6 19-6 L to Hartwick 19-7 19-7

Also
Skidmore (AQ  LL Pool A) 18-8 18-9
St. John Fisher or Hartwick (AQ  E8 Pool A)
Wells (East) or PS – Harrisburg (AQ NEAC Pool A)

With the Upsets in New England and NJ, I can see Elms (Springfield) moved to the East, I can see W. Conn moved to the East, I can see Ramapo moved to the East, all of these teams are above Ithaca/Hobart in the pecking order.

If Fisher & Wells win, my guess, given the NCAA's interest in keeping costs low is that  there will be a four team pod of Buff State, Rochester, Fisher & Wells at Rochester. 

I don't think they will put Buff State and Oswego in the same bracket.  That happened in 03-04 when the Bears beat Reg season champ Brockport, Brockport stayed in Region and Potsdam got sent to the PS-Behrend  Buffalo is very close to Erie.

Buff State could easily be slid to the Great Lakes or Middle Atlantic (Wooster, PS-Behrend or LaRoche)

I could see Skidmore at Oswego, with two teams (Ramapo & W Ct. or Middlebury) moved into the region.

Can't wait for tomorrow!!


Good stuff there bear!. Couple of questions about the "potential " Rochester Pod.
A - I thought that I read somewhere that Rochester could not host a first round ( men) if their #1 ranked women hosted a first round. Not sure where I saw that ( and I'm too tired to scroll back through everything now). Do you know if that is trrue?
B- is there anyway that Buff State could host a pod if Rochester is ineligible for the first round? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2011, 01:34:06 PM
Bengalsrule,
I said that about Rochester yesterday. The women have priority in the odd numbered years to host the first round. Don't know if the NCAA will give the Rochester women a home game but they are the top team in the East.

I'd be surprised if they gave Buffalo a home game. You can dream though! ;) :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 27, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
Would suspect that Oswego would get a "pod" prior to Buff State. Only 4 losses all year by a total of 11 points.  We will know tomorrow.  I suspect that Skidmore will travel east to New England and possibly face an Amherst or the like.  Buff State may have a better time of it and go face a Penn St - Behrend but they better pray they do not get a Wooster match up.  That would be tough. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2011, 05:52:51 PM
Based on the outcomes, Hartiwick, Wells, Rochester at Oswego would be low cost and Make sense.  I think Buff State will play Behrend in the first round, then on to Wooster in the Second.  Bengals have the atlhleticism and talent to challenge anyone Mitchell, Carr, 2 Simmons & Cartwright can play with anyone in a six game series.  Suspect Skidmore will draw Williams in the first round, as they are only an hour away!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2011, 07:23:43 PM
Knight Slappy also projecting Ithaca into the field, although with Stevens AD on the selection committee, that may not happen.

Ithaca could of course easily go to a pod at Behrend with Buff State and LaRoche.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
                                                     NEWSFLASH

Pat Coleman predicts, on Hoopsville tonite, that the Buffalo State BENGALS are the sleeper team of the tourney! ;)

I really like that Coleman guy!! :)  Good show too (1st time listener to Hoopsville).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2011, 03:06:18 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2011, 09:59:44 PM
                                                     NEWSFLASH

Pat Coleman predicts, on Hoopsville tonite, that the Buffalo State BENGALS are the sleeper team of the tourney! ;)

I really like that Coleman guy!! :)  Good show too (1st time listener to Hoopsville).

Pat is acknowledging what we've known all along. The Bengals have a solid team that can play with just about anyone. They seem to be hitting their best stride now when it matters most. Hopefully that will continue and they make a nice run in the tournament. They have a number of players that can be go to guys and can beat you one on one. But they need to be a little more disciplined, especially when they get a lead. When they push the ball upcourt, there are times when they need to set up the half court offense and forget about hoisting up a three so early in the possession. The strong point of the Bengals is that anyone of their starting five can torch you for 20 points. With 4 starters averaging double figures its no wonder the team is averaging 83 ppg for the season. Their winning streak of 11 straight is currently one of the nations longest and they have averaged 83 ppg in that streak as well. I just hope they get a favorable draw in trhe first round.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2011, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2011, 03:06:18 AM
I just hope they get a favorable draw in trhe first round.       

My hopes too!! ;) My god is it 1 p.m. yet ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2011, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2011, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2011, 03:06:18 AM
I just hope they get a favorable draw in trhe first round.       

My hopes too!! ;) My god is it 1 p.m. yet ???

Well Champ, I don't know what your reaction is to the Bengals draw but other than the 374 miles to Ramapo College I think you got a decent draw. You managed to avoid all 3 of the NESCAC schools for the first 3 games and you didn't get shipped south into Wooster's bracket. I think Buffalo St. can play with any of the schools in this pod.
Your first round game against Gwynedd-Mercy is a team that the Bengals should match up well against. They aren't any bigger than the Bengals and seem to play a similar style of ball as they average 81 ppg. Johnson & Wales is a guard oriented team that looks to be similar to the Brockport team of last year. Nobody in their starting lineup is taller then 6'3". They average 85 ppg, with  6'2" guard Lamonte Thomas scoring at a 30 ppg clip.
Ramapo starts 3 guys between 6'4"and 6'6" and 2 of them average around 12 points and 7 boards a game. Their go to guy is a 6 foot junior guard, Ahmad Hassan, who averages 18 ppg and is their main long distance threat. Another sharpshooter,Will Sanborn, comes off the bench and is shooting 40% from behind the arc. They have a fairly solid 9 man rotation and average 78 ppg as a team. They came up north over the Christmas break and played in a tournament at Union College. The host Dutchmen beat them the first day of the tournament 97-88, but the Union team at that time was a better team than their record would indicate. Union lost 2 top players right after that game against Ramapo and were never close to being the same team that beat the Roadrunners that day.
If you get by Gwynedd-Mercy, I think you'll be facing Ramapo in the second game. And if you make it to the Sweet 16, you'll have Randy-Mac or St. Mary's(Md) to look forward to. :o But lets take it 1 game at a time.

So good luck Bengals, Win a few for the YAC.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2011, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 26, 2011, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 25, 2011, 10:35:13 PM

Sorry to see Lakers lose, will probably mean Rochester hosts the pod, and Lakers because of Central location could get sent to a really tough first round opponent like Middlebury or Ramapo.

Bear,
Rochester women are ranked #1 in the East. They closed out their season today with a win over Emory 81-72 to finish at 20-5. This year the women have priority for the first round of the playoffs so it's possible the Rochester men won't be hosting. Oswego still with a chance to host a pod.

Just noticed that the Rochester men got beat today by Emory 83-72. That won't help their hosting hopes either.

As I mentioned a couple of days ago, Rochester women were chosen to host a first round pod and Oswego Men did still have a chance to host a pod. I'm really happy for the Lakers and especially the Burridge family, who won't have to travel 300 miles to a game this weekend. 8-) I got my wish that the Lakers would get upset in the SUNYAC tournament so that we could get 2 teams in the dance. I'm sure Mr. and Mrs. Burridge weren't happy went they thought their chances of hosting went out the window when the Lakers lost to Brockport. They were probably cursing me. ??? But now with the NCAA giving the pod to Oswego, we both kind of got our wish. Notice I said kind of.  I really wanted the Cardinals to be that 2nd team and I'm sure the Burridge's would have liked a SUNYAC Champs banner hanging in Max Zeil Gym. On the positive side, though, the Lakers didn't get a bad draw. Possibilities to advance to the Sweet 16 are there. Probably would face Amherst if that happens. Go Lakers!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2011, 08:58:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2011, 06:33:26 PM
Well Champ, I don't know what your reaction is to the Bengals draw but other than the 374 miles to Ramapo College I think you got a decent draw. You managed to avoid all 3 of the NESCAC schools for the first 3 games and you didn't get shipped south into Wooster's bracket. I think Buffalo St. can play with any of the schools in this pod.
Your first round game against Gwynedd-Mercy is a team that the Bengals should match up well against. They aren't any bigger than the Bengals and seem to play a similar style of ball as they average 81 ppg. Johnson & Wales is a guard oriented team that looks to be similar to the Brockport team of last year. Nobody in their starting lineup is taller then 6'3". They average 85 ppg, with  6'2" guard Lamonte Thomas scoring at a 30 ppg clip.
Ramapo starts 3 guys between 6'4"and 6'6" and 2 of them average around 12 points and 7 boards a game. Their go to guy is a 6 foot junior guard, Ahmad Hassan, who averages 18 ppg and is their main long distance threat. Another sharpshooter,Will Sanborn, comes off the bench and is shooting 40% from behind the arc. They have a fairly solid 9 man rotation and average 78 ppg as a team. They came up north over the Christmas break and played in a tournament at Union College. The host Dutchmen beat them the first day of the tournament 97-88, but the Union team at that time was a better team than their record would indicate. Union lost 2 top players right after that game against Ramapo and were never close to being the same team that beat the Roadrunners that day.
If you get by Gwynedd-Mercy, I think you'll be facing Ramapo in the second game. And if you make it to the Sweet 16, you'll have Randy-Mac or St. Mary's(Md) to look forward to. :o But lets take it 1 game at a time.

So good luck Bengals, Win a few for the YAC.   
Thanks Magicman. I will be sure to share this report with Coach Ansari.

I, like many, were shocked at the distance for our first game. But we'll take it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 28, 2011, 09:48:59 PM
Bengals Congrats, this is a solid draw for you.  Assuming Cartwright is healthy, you can match up with any of these teams.

Same thing happened in 04 when Potsdam upset heavy favorite Brockport to win the SUNYAC, Bears got sent nearly 400 miles to Erie, then when they beat PS=Behrend they got sent another 150 miles to Wooster.  Regardless of what they say, some of these bracket decisions are cast well ahead of time. 

Same advice as Brockport, Carr, Norm & Mitchell need to hit the boards hard limit opponents to one shot, and Cartwright & Jake need to put pressure on the ball and get out on the shooters.  Don't let any of these teams get you into a track meet, and run your half court sets to get great shots for Cartwright & Jake, let the others clean up the o boards.  If the threes start falling, twil be tough to guard your bigs..  Most of all, stop the ball on the break, and get your bigs in position to use their athleticism to intimidate the opposition.

Hope you get a nice run into the tournament... back to the days of Nate Gainey or Randy Smith, still the best player ever in the SUNYAC.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2011, 10:24:51 PM
The SUNYAC All Conference Teams have been announced.

As expected

Player of the Year is Chad Burridge of Oswego State

Coach of the Year is Adam Stockwell of Oswego State

Rookie of the Year is Jon Ivy of Brockport State




2010-2011 Men's Basketball All Conference

Name            School   Pos.   Yr.  Ht.     Hometown

FIRST TEAM

Chad Burridge Oswego F Jr. 6-7 Hannibal, NY

Chris Cartwright Buffalo State G Jr. 5-8 Binghamton, NY

Khyeem Green Brockport F JR. 6-5 Huntington Station, NY

Chris Ruiz Plattsburgh G Sr. 6-4 Washington Heights, NY

Jake Simmons Buffalo State G So. 6-0 Rochester, NY

SECOND TEAM

Errol Daniyan Plattsburgh F Sr. 6-6 Coram, NY

Derek Hahn Oneonta C Sr. 6-6 Youngsville, NY

Justin Mitchell Buffalo State F So. 6-4 Buffalo, NY

Gerald Williams Brockport G Jr. 6-0 Rochester, NY

Jesse Winter Cortland G So. 5-11 Rockville Centre, NY

THIRD TEAM

Curtis Pierce Potsdam G/F So. 6-2 Brooklyn, NY

Troy Talbot Oneonta G Sr. 6-1 Brooklyn, NY

Shereff Taylor New Paltz G Jr. 6-2 Hyde Park, NY

Hayden Ward Oswego F So. 6-6 Montauk, NY

Harris Wichard New Paltz G Jr. 6-0 Merrick, NY

No Honorable Mention this year as they did 3 teams instead.

Chris Ruiz was named to the 1st Team for the 3rd consectutive year. He graduates as Plattsburgh's 2nd leading all time career scorer with 1611 points.

Jake Simmons was last year's Rookie of the Year.

Chad Burridge was a 2nd team selection last year, and Rookie of the year in 2008-09

Congratulations to all of these outstanding young men. Hope the Seniors have great careers in whatever their chosen fields are and hope the returning players have even better seasons next year. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2011, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 28, 2011, 09:48:59 PM
Bengals Congrats, this is a solid draw for you.  Assuming Cartwright is healthy, you can match up with any of these teams.

Hope you get a nice run into the tournament... back to the days of Nate Gainey or Randy Smith, still the best player ever in the SUNYAC.


Thanks a bunch bear! "Nate Gainey". I'm impressed. He is 1 of the all time greats at Buff State and a local kid. He's now a Buffalo Policeman. You right on about what we need to do.

  Cartwright had a bruised thigh. He looked good in practice today! Thanks. Hope to represent the YAC well! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2011, 11:11:17 PM
The final Player of the Week award for the week ending 2-27 again went to Justin Mitchell as he completed 14 days of outstanding play. Justin won the award last week as well and on Saturday was named the MVP of the SUNYAC  tournament. In addition to that the 6'4" sophomore was just named to the All Conference 2nd team.
Here's the write up for his latest Player of the Week award from the SUNYAC website:

MEN'S BASKETBALL – Buffalo State
Justin Mitchell (Buffalo, NY/Bishop-Timon), sophomore forward
Buffalo State sophomore forward Justin Mitchell (Buffalo, NY/Bishop-Timon) was named the SUNYAC Men's Basketball Championship Most Valuable Player after helping guide the Bengals to their 18th conference title on Saturday and first since 2003.  Mitchell started the tournament with 15 points and seven rebounds in the 75-56 win over Cortland. He scored 20 points on 7-for-13 shooting and grabbed eight boards in Friday's semifinal 87-79 win over Plattsburgh.  He also dished out four assists and recorded two blocks.  In the 67-50 championship win over Brockport, Mitchell posted his ninth double-double of the season with 12 points and 12 rebounds, while also tallying one assist and three blocks. He averaged nearly a double-double for the tournament with 15.7 points and nine boards per game shooting 56.7 percent from the field. 


 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2011, 03:42:46 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2011, 08:58:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2011, 06:33:26 PM
Well Champ, I don't know what your reaction is to the Bengals draw but other than the 374 miles to Ramapo College I think you got a decent draw. You managed to avoid all 3 of the NESCAC schools for the first 3 games and you didn't get shipped south into Wooster's bracket. I think Buffalo St. can play with any of the schools in this pod.
Your first round game against Gwynedd-Mercy is a team that the Bengals should match up well against. They aren't any bigger than the Bengals and seem to play a similar style of ball as they average 81 ppg. Johnson & Wales is a guard oriented team that looks to be similar to the Brockport team of last year. Nobody in their starting lineup is taller then 6'3". They average 85 ppg, with  6'2" guard Lamonte Thomas scoring at a 30 ppg clip.
Ramapo starts 3 guys between 6'4"and 6'6" and 2 of them average around 12 points and 7 boards a game. Their go to guy is a 6 foot junior guard, Ahmad Hassan, who averages 18 ppg and is their main long distance threat. Another sharpshooter,Will Sanborn, comes off the bench and is shooting 40% from behind the arc. They have a fairly solid 9 man rotation and average 78 ppg as a team. They came up north over the Christmas break and played in a tournament at Union College. The host Dutchmen beat them the first day of the tournament 97-88, but the Union team at that time was a better team than their record would indicate. Union lost 2 top players right after that game against Ramapo and were never close to being the same team that beat the Roadrunners that day.
If you get by Gwynedd-Mercy, I think you'll be facing Ramapo in the second game. And if you make it to the Sweet 16, you'll have Randy-Mac or St. Mary's(Md) to look forward to. :o But lets take it 1 game at a time.

So good luck Bengals, Win a few for the YAC.   
Thanks Magicman. I will be sure to share this report with Coach Ansari.

I, like many, were shocked at the distance for our first game. But we'll take it.

When we spoke on the phone the other day I told you they could ship you up to 500 miles. Usually it's not quite that far and in the Bengal's case it wasn't "quite that far". ;D
I think of all the teams in the East region that are dancing, Buffalo State has the best draw, despite the fact that you're not hosting a pod. I may even have to draft Jake for my NCAA Fanyasy team.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 01, 2011, 03:49:13 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 27, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
Would suspect that Oswego would get a "pod" prior to Buff State. Only 4 losses all year by a total of 11 points.  We will know tomorrow.  I suspect that Skidmore will travel east to New England and possibly face an Amherst or the like.  Buff State may have a better time of it and go face a Penn St - Behrend but they better pray they do not get a Wooster match up.  That would be tough. ::)
Magic you must be rubbing off on me.  I was pretty accurate here except that Penn St Behrend travels to the Oswego pod!  Don't know too much about Wells but if Oswego plays well I think they come outof the first round pretty easily and I believe they are better the PS-B aslo.  Do not know a thing about Rhode Island.  Also think the Bengals who are playing hot have a chance to advance in the d3 dance if they keep their defensive stance and don't  prance! Sorry its pretty late and I'm a little "goofy"! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2011, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 01, 2011, 03:49:13 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 27, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
Would suspect that Oswego would get a "pod" prior to Buff State. Only 4 losses all year by a total of 11 points.  We will know tomorrow.  I suspect that Skidmore will travel east to New England and possibly face an Amherst or the like.  Buff State may have a better time of it and go face a Penn St - Behrend but they better pray they do not get a Wooster match up.  That would be tough. ::)
Magic you must be rubbing off on me.  I was pretty accurate here except that Penn St Behrend travels to the Oswego pod!  Don't know too much about Wells but if Oswego plays well I think they come outof the first round pretty easily and I believe they are better the PS-B aslo.  Do not know a thing about Rhode Island.  Also think the Bengals who are playing hot have a chance to advance in the d3 dance if they keep their defensive stance and don't  prance! Sorry its pretty late and I'm a little "goofy"! :D

withage,
You were right on with the Skidmore-Amherst matchup. I still had Oswego hosting the pod a day ahead of you though. ;D I mentioned to BengalsRule on the phone a few days ago that I hope they don't send Buffalo State down to Wooster, so we were thinking alike there as well.

Tell this to your new old Coach Stockwell. He probably already knows this but here it is anyway.

Rhode Island is the toughest team in that pod. This is their 5th straight trip to the NCAA tournament. Last year they made it to the sweet 16 and took out basically the same Middlebury team that is currently #2 in the country. They finished last year with a 22-8 record. Entering last year's tournament they were 20-7. The beat Rutgers-Newark 72-60  in the 1st round and Middlebury 75-59 in the 2nd round. They then lost to Brandeis in the Sweet 16 by 11 points, 76-65, but it was a 1 point game with under 6 minutes to go.
This year's version of the Anchormen has 7 of their top 8 players back from last years Sweet 16 team. They are entering the tournament with an almost identical record as last year at 19-7 (they had a game against Amherst cancelled due to a snowstorm) and 3 of their 7 losses have come at the hands of teams that are in the NCAA tournament. They are my pick to win that pod, but of course I want the Lakers to prove me wrong. Oswego can play with this team but they will need to bring their A game. Early in the year Plattsburgh played a game against Western Connecticut State who was the co-champs of the LEC conference regular season with Rhode Island. Plattsburgh lost that game on a neutral court 86-80 but the Cardinals 2 best players shot terribly that day and between them went 0 for 8 from long distance. Western Connecticutt and Rhode Island split 2 games this season with each winning on the otherteam's home court. My point is that Plattsburgh could compete with these teams and probably win a home game if they played up to their capabilities, so the Lakers should be able to stay with Rhode Island, but they need a better effort than the one they had against Brockport last Friday. The Anchormen have 4 player that average double figures, with their playmaking guard 5'9" Antone Gray(12.8 ppg, 6 assists per game, 27 3's) and big guy 6'6" center Mike Akinrola (14.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg) leading the way. The other 3 starters are 6'4" forward Mason Choice(11.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg), 6'4" forward Darius Debnam (3.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg) and 6' guard Nick Manson (9.5 ppg 63 3's) who is their primary long range shooter. They have an 11 man rotation and 10 of those guys are getting double digit minutes. As a team they average 74 ppg and give up 64 ppg.

Enough about Rhode Island. First thing on the agenda is the Wells College Express from the NEAC conference and though they may come from one of the weakest conferences in the country according to Mr. Massey, let me just say this about that. SUNYIT 71  Plattsburgh State 65---Final score of last year's 1st round NCAA game hosted by Plattsburgh State. And if that's not enough, here's another more recent one. Oswego State 63, middle of the pack NEAC team, Cobleskill 62, from 3 weeks ago. These teams from the NEAC have nothing to lose. They will come into Max Zeil Gym, with no pressure on them and will try to knock your socks off. Wells has already played several teams from the "BIGGER and BETTER"  New York D3 conferences. They barely lost to Hamilton 63-60. That's a Hamilton team that beat St. Lawrence twice. The same St. Lawrence team that went into Laker Hall and beat Oswego 58-57. And they beat that Cobleskill team that gave Oswego fits, three times this year, by 15, by 12 and by 7. They also played Empire 8 champion Hartwick tough, losing at Hartwick 76-57 back on opening day of the season November 15th. They were within 2 points of Hartwick with less than 5 minutes to play in that game. And they also hung with another team that dealt the Lakers a loss. Oneonta State defeated Wells 75-65 back on January 2nd in a tournament in Virginia. Again they were witnin 5 points with less than 3 minutes to play. So I hope the Lakers approach this game with a sense of urgency and not with an attitude that these guys come from a low level D3 conference and we'll just be able to do what we want, when we want.

Wells has 4 guys averaging double figures and are led by their 2 big men 6'5" forward Terry Harrison and 6'8" forward Maybior Mayen who are both 1 rebound shy of averaging a double-double. Harrison is scoring 19.1 ppg and grabbing 9.5 rpg and also leads the team in steals with 61. Mayen has 15.5 ppg and 9.6 rpg and is the team leader in blocked shots with 75. The starting 5 is rounded out with 3 guards. 5' 10" Dave Foltz runs the offense averaging 11 ppg, 4 apg, 3.4 rpg and is 2nd on the team with 39 made 3 pointers. Benito Perez is a 6'1" guard averaging 10.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg and is the main sharpshooter from behind the arc with 55 3's. The fifth starter is 6'1" guard Terrence Wright who averages 4.4 ppg  They average 75 ppg and allow their opponents to score 71 ppg. They usually win the battle of the boards as well, 42-37 on average.

The Lakers should win this matchup, especially with the home crowd hopefully packing the place to celebrate Oswego's first ever NCAA bid, but they need to make a statement early and build a lead. Create a little breathing room. They can't let this game remain in the 1 or 2 possession range. It's a recipe for disaster that allows the upset to happen. Please Lakers, we can't lose to the NEAC for a second straight year.               

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 02, 2011, 12:33:18 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 01, 2011, 03:49:13 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 27, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
Also think the Bengals who are playing hot have a chance to advance in the d3 dance if they keep their defensive stance and don't  prance! Sorry its pretty late and I'm a little "goofy"! :D

With age...I may have to sneak this up on the BENGALS lockeroom wall tommorrow.

You are truly a poet...
And now we ALL know it!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 02, 2011, 01:28:47 AM
Magic I can't wait until I get to 200 posts (which I learned from you tonight on another east board) so I can drown you in +karma!!  I will e-mail my new old Coach with the scouting report that is just plain fabulous!!!  I told him when I saw him up in Potsdam to keep you on speed dial!!  Let's face it who won the fantasy player championship!!! Magic with a "beat down"!!

Bengals- I'm a Buffalo guy so if you think they would like it - have at it!!  Played some rec ball with a "real stud" from Buff State in years past Josh Becker and still compete against Buff State Little College All American Charlie "the jazzman" M.  Don't want to use his last name because it might embarrass him!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 04, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
Well fellas. It's game day. Went up tp ramapo aorund 11 a. m. to see what th gym looks lie. In 1 word Nice! resembles an Oneonta but every seat has armrests and back. Smaller but much newer ( 5 years old). NCAA logo on the court...NCAA logos on everything in the gym basically. You don't see anything else except Ramapo on the floor..and NCAA emblem.

Hope my BENGALS are ready. I FEEL that they are READY. Looked at the massey rating for Gwynedd Mercy's conference and they are ranked 43rd (SUNYAC 34th). No real  common opponents between CSAC and SUNYAC other than Oswego and Brockport both played Keystone ( in the Oswego Season opening tourney in Nov). Keystone, the 3rd ranked team in CSAC (split their season series with Gwynedd Mercy 1-1) beat Brockport by 6 and then the next night beat Oswego by 4. Keystone had a game in hand when they arrived at Oswego.

I predict a 78-71 victory for the BENGALS.  ;)

Oh BTW magicman...I gave Jake your message! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2011, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 04, 2011, 01:03:51 PM
Well fellas. It's game day. Went up tp ramapo aorund 11 a. m. to see what th gym looks lie. In 1 word Nice! resembles an Oneonta but every seat has armrests and back. Smaller but much newer ( 5 years old). NCAA logo on the court...NCAA logos on everything in the gym basically. You don't see anything else except Ramapo on the floor..and NCAA emblem.

Hope my BENGALS are ready. I FEEL that they are READY. Looked at the massey rating for Gwynedd Mercy's conference and they are ranked 43rd (SUNYAC 34th). No real  common opponents between CSAC and SUNYAC other than Oswego and Brockport both played Keystone ( in the Oswego Season opening tourney in Nov). Keystone, the 3rd ranked team in CSAC (split their season series with Gwynedd Mercy 1-1) beat Brockport by 6 and then the next night beat Oswego by 4. Keystone had a game in hand when they arrived at Oswego.

I predict a 78-71 victory for the BENGALS.  ;)

Oh BTW magicman...I gave Jake your message! :)


Thanks Champ,
I need Jake to at least get to the Sweet 16. 8-) If I can get 3 games from him I'll be happy. Also took Justin Mitchell for my wife's team, so I need him to perform like the Player of the Week that he's been. ;)

Gwynned-Mercy's mascot is a fictional creature, a Griffin. Show them that not only is their mascot fictional, the chance of beating the Bengals is a bigger fairy tale. ;D

Grab the lead tonight and never look back.  Go Bengals!!!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2011, 06:20:52 PM
Buffalo State has a 37-36 lead over Gywnedd-Mercy at the half. Bengals were down 1, at 18-17 with 11:12 left in the half when the Griffins went on a 14-3 spurt to grab a 12 point lead 32-20 with 6:02 left to play in the period. Buffalo State then went on a 17-1 run of their own to take a 37-33 lead before the Griffins hit a 3 pointer to only be down 1 at the break. Bengals were led by 11 points from Chris Cartwright with 3 jumpers from long distance and 9 points from Jake Simmons who also had a trio of 3 pointers. The Griffins were led by Jon Hogga with 10 points and Dan Delconte with 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2011, 07:02:30 PM
Yes Bengals and yes Jake Simmons as the Jakester nails back to back treys in 43 seconds to give the Bengals a 72-63 lead with 3:15 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2011, 07:02:51 PM
Woo Hoo - Bengals Roar 8-0 go 'yac  Bengals up 9 with 2:26....  Please be good from the FT line.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2011, 07:15:24 PM
Congrats to the Bengals - Advance to the round of 32.

Go Lakers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
Buffalo State closes out Gwynedd-Mercy 83-73 to advance to Saturday's game against the winner of Ramapo/Johnson and Wales. Way to go Bengals. Jake Simmons 19, Chris Cartwright 21, Glenroy Carr 15, Justin Mitchell 11, and Ahmed Nagaya 11 all had double figures for the Bengals. Jake had five 3 pointers and Chris had four.

Jake Simmons gave me 34 points for my NCAA fantasy team. Huge night!!! 8-)
Justin Mitchell gave my wife 17 points for her fantasy team. Pretty good for an undrafted free agent. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2011, 07:22:37 PM
Alright Lakers lets make it 2 for 2 for the YAC tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2011, 08:14:36 PM
Oswego up 26-24 at the half. Chad Burridge with a big 1st period, has half of the Laker points shooting 6x12 from the field with 13 points and 6 rebounds. Wells grabbed an early lead at 8-2 and after the Lakers tied it up, Wells again went out in front and led 17-10 and 19-12 when Burridge took over. Back to back buckets by Chad, the 2nd one from long distance tied the game at 19, and another basket by Burridge with 5:22 left in the period gave Oswego the lead for the 1st time in the game. After a Wells basket by Mabior Mayen tied it at 23, Conor Monaghan nailed a triple to give the Lakers a lead at the break. Mayen led the Wells Express with 9 points and 8 rebounds.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
Oswego up 53-52 with the ball and a time out, with 2:53 remaining.

Lakers with a  trifecta now up 56-52.

Well goes to the line with 1:43 and makes 1of 2.

Oswego comes down and misses and almost gets the rebound but Wells has the ball with a time out and 56 seconds left with the score 56-53 Lakers.

Wells comes out of the time out and works the ball around and Wells player dives to the hoop and is called for charging.

Wells fouls Burridge and he goes to the line and hits both free throws to put the Lakers up 58-53 with 26 seconds in the game.

Wells hits a basket to make it 58-55 but Burridge gets a dunk to make it 60-55. Gilkes hits 2 free throws for Oswego to make it 62-55 but Wells hits a 3 to make 62 -58. Wells fouls Sheridan who make the 1st and 2nd Oswego wins it 64-58.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2011, 09:03:11 PM
'yac 2-2 for the round of 32...  Best of Luck to Lakers & Bengals
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 04, 2011, 11:06:09 PM
SUNYAC got some smack and that's a fact Jack!!  ;D Go Lakers and Bengals 2 the sweet 16!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 04, 2011, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 04, 2011, 11:06:09 PM
SUNYAC got some smack and that's a fact Jack!!  ;D Go Lakers and Bengals 2 the sweet 16!!!
Quote from: thebear on March 04, 2011, 09:03:11 PM
'yac 2-2 for the round of 32...  Best of Luck to Lakers & Bengals

Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2011, 07:20:05 PM
Buffalo State closes out Gwynedd-Mercy 83-73 to advance to Saturday's game against the winner of Ramapo/Johnson and Wales. Way to go Bengals. Jake Simmons 19, Chris Cartwright 21, Glenroy Carr 15, Justin Mitchell 11, and Ahmed Nagaya 11 all had double figures for the Bengals. Jake had five 3 pointers and Chris had four.

Jake Simmons gave me 34 points for my NCAA fantasy team. Huge night!!! 8-)
Justin Mitchell gave my wife 17 points for her fantasy team. Pretty good for an undrafted free agent. ;)

I just LOVE the D3HOOPs (SUNYAC) family.  ;) BENGALS will try their damndest, tommorrow vs. Johnson and Wales, to continue to make you guys proud!!! Not a bad night for the 'YAC!

WITH AGE/THEBEAR..YOU 2 AND NORMAN SIMMONS NEED TO START A RAP GROUP! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on March 05, 2011, 12:17:13 AM
Oswego state vs. RIC should be a good one tomorrow.  Anyone end up going to the games at Oswego??  Was RIC that good (haven't lost since Jan 25 so their peaking at the right time), Behrend that bad, or a combination of both??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 05, 2011, 10:56:22 AM

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You wouldn't want to see me rap - It would be ugly ... I leave the musical talents in this family to the wife, she's a professional.

Good Luck to the Bengals today.  Should be a winnable game, although the stat guys may collapse from overwork.  Lamonte Thomas must be a playa.

This should be a classic run & gun light up the scoreboard game.  Sounds like the refs in the J&W Ramapo gaqme got new whistles - 52 fouls.  Ramapo must be kicking themselves, 35 turnovers and 15 missed FT's at home.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 05, 2011, 12:13:45 PM

S-L-O-W-L-Y pulling out of our funk in CState land. And, no, not at all a sore loser. Well, maybe a tad bruised. If thebear holds his head high, so can we. In similar boats ...... future looks good. As for this season, the best teams ruled, though Magic's Cardinals sure underachieved after such glorious play in 2009-10.

And now for Bengalsrule, we supplied some earlier critical heat re BS's failure to win the big one and get to that next rung. We've swallowed hard. Bengals terrific late. Kudos. And to those Lakers as well. A worthy pair. Carry on!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Argylebballer on March 05, 2011, 12:27:04 PM
Ya Thomas from JWU is the leading scorer in the country, all three divisions..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 05, 2011, 02:04:29 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 05, 2011, 12:13:45 PM

S-L-O-W-L-Y pulling out of our funk in CState land. And, no, not at all a sore loser. Well, maybe a tad bruised. If thebear holds his head high, so can we. In similar boats ...... future looks good. As for this season, the best teams ruled, though Magic's Cardinals sure underachieved after such glorious play in 2009-10.

And now for Bengalsrule, we supplied some earlier critical heat re BS's failure to win the big one and get to that next rung. We've swallowed hard. Bengals terrific late. Kudos. And to those Lakers as well. A worthy pair. Carry on!!

Would be nice if both could carry through to the sweet 16.  Been a long dry spell for the conference since anyone has advanced that far.  Think my Bears in '04-05 were the last club to get that far and on the the final 8.  Perhaps two teams in final 16 would get the conference some long overdue respect.

Entire conference is young, even Oswego and Buff State have solid core returning next year, and young Bears are Dragons are competitive already, but with a couple of missing parts.

Agree that Cards were a disappointment, too much talent, but too many home losses.  Curle will reload I'm sure with a large group of talented athletes.  He knows where to find the bodies for sure.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 04:38:47 PM
Plattsburgh State made the Sweet 16 in the 07-08 season. Beat Kings College to get there. (Had a 1st round bye) Lost to Brandeis in a tight one and just missed making the Great 8. ;)

Tonight we may see 2 teams get there. Sure would be a big boost for the YAC. Go Bengals, Go Lakers!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 07:44:22 PM
Jake Simmons with 10 points along with Glenroy Carr who has 8 points and 10 boards lead Buffalo State to a 40-27 halftime lead over Johnson and Wales. Lamont Thomas from Johnson and Wales the nation's leading scorer has 9 points and 4 fouls on him. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 07:47:13 PM
Oswego State is trailing Rhode Island College 31-29 at the break. Hayden Ward with 8 points leads the Lakers. Carl Lee with 11 points and 3 long range jumpers is the high scorer for the Anchormen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 05, 2011, 07:47:53 PM
Bengals out to a comfortable 1st half lead 40-27 at Half.  Glenroy Carr again coming up huge for the Bengals in the paint.

J&W Scoring Phenom Lamonte Thomas had the ball stripped with :25 left, fouls A. Hamer, then loses his cool and gets T'd.  Bengals make 3 of 4 to pad their lead, and Thomas with 3 PF's has to be careful --and his game is based on a lot of defensive swipes and transition.  Plus my experience is refs that T you once have no patience for further prima donna antics following the T.  Thomas will be walking on eggshells in the second half.

Neutral Court, Bengals just have to stick to fundamentals.

Oswego & RIC locked in a tight one, RIC 31-Lakes 29 at Half.  RIC has kept Burridge under control, but H. Ward has stepped up his game.  Should be a barnburner.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 08:41:49 PM
Big win for Buffalo State as they cruise to a 96-72 win over Johnson and Wales to advance to the Sweet 16. Bengals will now face off against #13 St. Mary's (Md.) who in a mild upset was a winner over #6th ranked Randolph-Macon 68-53.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 08:53:24 PM
Oswego State comes up a little short as they fall to the Rhode Island Anchormen 71-63. Great season for the Lakers comes to an end, but they'll be back next year I'm sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
Buffalo State with a big win over Johnson and Wales as they gain control near the end of the 1st half and cruise to a 96-72 win. Bengals extended their 13 point halftime lead to as much as 28 in the 2nd half and were never  threatened the rest of the game. The Bengals opened the 2nd half with a 10-2 run and just like that had a 50-29 lead. Jake Williams was the games leading scorer and outscored J&W's Lamonte Thomas, the nations leading scorer, 28-26. Jake was 6 for 12 from long distance and 9 for 17 overall from the field. Most importantly he had 36 total points for my NCAA Fantasy League team. Way to go Jake. I hope I would get 3 games from him and I will. Wouldn't mind a few more though. Justin Mitchell had 14 points and 9 rebounds. Justin gave my wife's fantasy team 25 total points. Glenroy Carr had 13 points and 16 rebounds. Norman Simmons had 10 points, 7 rebounds, and 5 assists. Chris Cartwright added 10 points as all five Bengal starters managed to hit double figures. Bengals shot 37x72 from the field(51.4%) and 8x20 from behind the arc.(40%) Free throws were 14x26 (53.8%) Buffalo State won the rebounding battle with a huge margin 55-30. They did have more turnovers than Johnson and Wales 18-14.

Johnson and Wales was led by Thomas with 26 points and Louis Ferreras with 14. The Wildcats were 29x69 from the field (42%) but only 2x14 from long distance (14.3%). They were 12x17 from the line (70.6%)

Buffalo State will take on St. Mary's (Md.) next Friday while Rochester will face off against Middlebury. It will be interesting to see who the NCAA will award the Sectional round to. Rochester is the only one of the 4 schools that is within the 500 mile limit for everone. Middlebury has the inside track in terms of records and regional rankings but it is over 500 miles from St. Mary's to Middlebury Vermont. That would mean a plane flight for them and I don't think the NCAA wants to do that in the East. Decent possibility that Rochester gets the Sectional, which wouldn't make the Buffalo St. fans unhappy.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bucket on March 05, 2011, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2011, 09:41:18 PM

Buffalo State will take on St. Mary's (Md.) next Friday while Rochester will face off against Middlebury. It will be interesting to see who the NCAA will award the Sectional round to. Rochester is the only one of the 4 schools that is within the 500 mile limit for everone. Middlebury has the inside track in terms of records and regional rankings but it is over 500 miles from St. Mary's to Middlebury Vermont. That would mean a plane flight for them and I don't think the NCAA wants to do that in the East. Decent possibility that Rochester gets the Sectional, which wouldn't make the Buffalo St. fans unhappy.


And I think it would make fans of the 26-1 Panthers, the number 1 ranked team in the Northeast, absolutely livid if Midd has to go on the road to play on its opponent's home floor.

I'd have to think that the committee knew what it was doing what it set up the brackets. Odds were great that either St. Mary's or RMC was advancing, and I have a hard time believing that they would be ok with sending the #1 team in the NE on the road for the sectionals, while allowing the #2 (Williams) to stay home. I'd have to think that they would have budgeted for a flight here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 05, 2011, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
. Middlebury has the inside track in terms of records and regional rankings but it is over 500 miles from St. Mary's to Middlebury Vermont. That would mean a plane flight for them and I don't think the NCAA wants to do that in the East. Decent possibility that Rochester gets the Sectional, which wouldn't make the Buffalo St. fans unhappy.

magicman..as I ride back to buffalo i could not agree with you more. The BENGALS fans would Loooooovvvveee a Rochester pod. After seeing our handful of fans travel 374 miles I can only imagine that the Middlebury fans would enjoy the opportunity to travel and support thier team as our fans did :D. NCAA paying 4/500 a piece for 23 (traveling party limit for teams in tourney) airfare ..$13,500. a bus for 2 days 1,500.00. The opportunity to see Niagara Falls on the cheap...Priceless. ;)

Oh BTW Magicman u were right on when you told me that the Ramapo brackett was the best brackett we could have gone to. Good call!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 11:17:49 PM
Tough loss for Oswego State tonight against Rhode Island. I was afraid of the Anchormen, as I said at the time of the draw, that I thought they were the best team in that pod. I picked them to advance out of the four teams but boy did I want to be wrong on that prediction. Oswego had trouble putting the ball in the basket tonight, especially from long range. If they just hit their season's average it might have been a different outcome. I was surprised that the Lakers couldn't take advantage of the fact that Rhode Island was without their leading scorer, big man, Mike Akinrola. If you told me before the game that he was out I have thought for sure that the Lakers would win.

The game was closely contested throughout the1st half and halfway through the 2nd period. However it seemed like Rhode Island would always get a lead stretch it to 5 or 7 points and the Lakers would come back to tie it up or take a 1 point lead. Then that cycle would repeat. Down 43-37 with 17:30 left to play the Lakers would claw back to a 43-43 tie at the 12:13 mark. That would be the final time the Lakers weren't behind. A 12-5 run by the Anchormen once again boosted the lead to 7 and Oswego could never catch up. Two Nick Manson free throws gave Rhode Island their largest lead of the game at 65-54 but a Chad Burridge dunk followed by a long range jumper from Burridge brought the Lakers to within 6 at 65-59 with 2 minutes lefy to play. A Laker foul sent RIC's Antone Gray to the line. He made the 1st, missed the 2nd but the Anchormen got the rebound and that put the brakes on any hope for a Laker comeback. Another Laker foul resulted in another RIC made free throw and with the lead at 8 and only 90 ticks left the Lakers were forced to shoot three pointers and they didn't fall.

Hayden Ward led Oswego with 21 points and 9 rebounds. Burridge added 14 points and Chris Gilkes followed with 13. Oswego won the rebounding battle 30-26 and had fewer turnovers than RIC 11-14 but the telling statistic was the field goal percentage. Oswego was 19x51 (37.3%) from the field and only 4x21 (19%) from long distance. The Anchormen were 21x38 (55.3%) from the field and 6x14 (42.9%) from behind the arc. That pretty much says it all.

Rhode Island placed 4 players in double figures as they had a balanced scoring attack. Mason Choice led the Anchormen with 17 points and 4 assists. Carl Lee who normally comes off the bench, stepped in for missing big  man Mike Akinrola and scored 15 points and 7 rebounds. That's better than the 14.3ppg and 5.3rpg that Akinrola averages. And Darius Debnam who normally averages 4.1ppg and 4.8rpg increased his output tonight to 13 points and 7 rebounds. Nick Manson also had 13 points as he hit a trio of 3 pointers. Antone Gray, the Anchormen's 2nd leading scorer who averages 13ppg was held to 9 points and 5 assists tonight. That tells you a lot about the depth of this Rhode Island team. Their top 2 scorers Akinrola and Gray, that together average 27 ppg, only accounted for 9 points tonight and they still won.
Rhode Island will now move on to face Amherst in the Sweet 16. Amherst was a 92-70 winner over WPI tonight.

Oswego ends it season with a 24-5 record that I'm pretty sure is the best in school history. The future looks good for the Lakers however as they return the top 6 players in their rotation including All Conference 1st Team and POY Burridge and All Conference 3rd Team Ward.

Once again congratulations to the Lakers and Coach Stockwell on a great year.  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2011, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: Bucket on March 05, 2011, 09:57:26 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2011, 09:41:18 PM

Buffalo State will take on St. Mary's (Md.) next Friday while Rochester will face off against Middlebury. It will be interesting to see who the NCAA will award the Sectional round to. Rochester is the only one of the 4 schools that is within the 500 mile limit for everone. Middlebury has the inside track in terms of records and regional rankings but it is over 500 miles from St. Mary's to Middlebury Vermont. That would mean a plane flight for them and I don't think the NCAA wants to do that in the East. Decent possibility that Rochester gets the Sectional, which wouldn't make the Buffalo St. fans unhappy.


And I think it would make fans of the 26-1 Panthers, the number 1 ranked team in the Northeast, absolutely livid if Midd has to go on the road to play on its opponent's home floor.

I'd have to think that the committee knew what it was doing what it set up the brackets. Odds were great that either St. Mary's or RMC was advancing, and I have a hard time believing that they would be ok with sending the #1 team in the NE on the road for the sectionals, while allowing the #2 (Williams) to stay home. I'd have to think that they would have budgeted for a flight here.


Bucket,
I agree with you that Middlebury deserves to host the sectional. I certainly wouldn't mind if they did, because then I could go(if I could get tickets :D) but it wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last that the team with the better record isn't the host. Geography (and money) trump winning records. And I didn't say Rochester would host I just said there's a decent possibility.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 06, 2011, 02:21:35 AM
Have to believe the bengals have a good shot at the top 25 ranking now. Great win!  Also congrats to the Lakers on a sensational season.  Sometimes the shots just do not fall when you need them.  I'd be ticked if I had to travel to Rochester if I were Middlebury but I'd be grateful if I were me (which if course am I) because I might be able to get over there to watch. ;D  However I suspect magic will have to that for me because I think the Panthers will host.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2011, 05:23:45 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 06, 2011, 02:21:35 AM
Have to believe the bengals have a good shot at the top 25 ranking now. Great win!  Also congrats to the Lakers on a sensational season.  Sometimes the shots just do not fall when you need them.  I'd be ticked if I had to travel to Rochester if I were Middlebury but I'd be grateful if I were me (which if course am I) because I might be able to get over there to watch. ;D  However I suspect magic will have to that for me because I think the Panthers will host.

Hey with age..if the game is at the Palestra I'll get your ticket (you have sit in the BENGALS section ;)) Ditto for u too magic! Hopefully we find out today (the NCAA handbook says Sectional locations announced online Sunday) :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2011, 12:38:10 PM
Rochester it is!!!!!!! :) :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2011, 05:04:45 PM
Hey Bengals -

Your Bengals couldn't have a better draw.  Wouldn't be surprised if my old friend Zola will be there as well, best ref baiter of all time.

Middlebury will be pissed, but actually payback to the NESCAC when Potsdam, undefeated SJF and Rochester had to trek to Amherst (on break).  Only for Yellowjackets to beat the hosts on the first night.

I imagine the Bengal faithful will be out in force, not to mention Jake Simmons' entire posse.  Democrat & Chronicle may actually be rooting for the Bengals from a human interest perspective.  School of the  Arts Alumni Association will be out in force.  Destiny is smiling on the Bengals.

Pleased to see that senior Glenroy Carr has come up huge for the Bengals during the postseason.  Just makes one more weapon you have to account for.  I see that he has dominated the glass in the two games so far.

If my Bears aren't in it, I root for the Bengals, my dad was a '50 grad from BSTC, my uncle was a Timon grad and my Mom's a South Buffalo/Blasdell native.  Mother in Law was a U of R alum :-( -  BSC Hof'r's Bill Kozlowski & Len Piorkowski were childhood friends.

Make Sure you partake of a garbage plate at Nick Tahou's while you're in the flower city. A once in a lifetime experience, but still doesn't match a beef on weck with lots of juice.

Best of Luck to the Bengals.  Do the 'yac proud.

The Bear
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2011, 06:45:01 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 06, 2011, 05:04:45 PM
Hey Bengals -

Your Bengals couldn't have a better draw.  Wouldn't be surprised if my old friend Zola will be there as well, best ref baiter of all time.
Middlebury will be pissed, but actually payback to the NESCAC when Potsdam, undefeated SJF and Rochester had to trek to Amherst (on break).  Only for Yellowjackets to beat the hosts on the first night.
I imagine the Bengal faithful will be out in force, not to mention Jake Simmons' entire posse.  Democrat & Chronicle may actually be rooting for the Bengals from a human interest perspective.  School of the  Arts Alumni Association will be out in force.  Destiny is smiling on the Bengals.
Pleased to see that senior Glenroy Carr has come up huge for the Bengals during the postseason.  Just makes one more weapon you have to account for.  I see that he has dominated the glass in the two games so far.
If my Bears aren't in it, I root for the Bengals, my dad was a '50 grad from BSTC, my uncle was a Timon grad and my Mom's a South Buffalo/Blasdell native.  Mother in Law was a U of R alum :-( -  BSC Hof'r's Bill Kozlowski & Len Piorkowski were childhood friends.
Make Sure you partake of a garbage plate at Nick Tahou's while you're in the flower city. A once in a lifetime experience, but still doesn't match a beef on weck with lots of juice.
Best of Luck to the Bengals.  Do the 'yac proud.
The Bear

   thebear..at least 2 of the coaches have just read your posts. Neither is a d3 member so they asked me to give you a hearty thanks for the well-wishes.

   I personally may take you up on the "garbage plate at Nick Tahou's" Our top assistant got sick (stomach) right before the Johnson and Wales game so a "garbage plate meal" might not sit too well with the team/coaches. I on
the other hand will try anything once :).

   You are right on about Glen"Roy" who has really stepped up the past 2 weeks. As our opponents get bigger he is gonna have to continue to do better!
 
   Justin is also a Timon grad so hopefully there is some goooood Karma coming our way from St. Jude.

  As far as Simmons support in Rochester...Norman Simmons (Rochester East) will probably have 3 times the supporters as Jake when the game tips-off Friday. And I am sooo glad that  I know Normans friend and fans. They LOVE Norman and his BENGALS. From his 7th grade teacher who has driven to Oswego and Ramapo with her husband and 3 children, to his highschool friend Craig (who has traveled the same).

  We like our chances to continue advancing. Fridays game was nerve wrackin, especially with Justin getting in early foul trouble. Fortunatly the jitters were gone by Sat. and to be honest the game againest Johnson & Wales was really anticlimatic. It probably helped that they, J & W, had to play an overtime game Friday which didnt end until after 10 p.m. They didnt even attend the shoot around Sat.

My hope is that any all "YAC supporters who can make it to U of R (less than 40 min ride from Geneseo and Brockport) COME and support US/THE 'YAC Friday.

  I'll never forget when Brockport made it to the elite 8 vs. Wooster. A number of us rode down to St. John Fisher for the Friday contest vs. St. John Fisher (which Brockport won). We then got a hotel room to stay in Rochester and get ready for their Elite 8 match againest Wooster. And B-Port ate the BENGALS lunch that year! It was SUNYAC against all else and thats all we knew or cared about!

We hope to continue to make the YAC Proud! ;)

GO BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2011, 09:59:37 PM
I have fond memories too. 

Was at the Final Four in '85 when My Bears lost a one point game to North Park, and then went on to win next 60 in a row.  Was also at Amherst in '05, when Bears were within two of eventual runnerup Rochester with 3:00 to play, then couldn't get a stop.

Think Bengals got a great draw, short trip, huge hometown (East & SOA) crowd, esp in First Game.  460 mile bus trip for SM Md. a pain, at best, although methinks St. Mary's will foot the bill for Southwest airlines ($330/person) from BWI to BUF then bus to ROC, regardless of what NCAA pays for.

Buff State has 5 starters you have to contend with, no weak links, any starter can go off for 20+ if you overlook them.

Rochester will have a PO'd opponent in Middlebury, though, I think Magic and Coach Curle will have insight in what it takes to best them if they prevail, as Cards fought them to a close outcome.

Yellowjackets lost to both Nazareth & Hobart, neither team has the 5 player talent level of the Bengals. 

P.S. Mr. Runge should get lots of reps in Practice this week, Rochester. Middlebury & St. Marys all have a lot of size.  Having that wide body leaning on them would create some traffic in the paint & take some pressure off Justin Mitchell.  Einstein is right, e=mc2, and Mr. Runge has lots of M.

Rooting for your Buffalo Tigers to move to Salem...Very doable.  Just work on Mitchell to play solid D without fouling, and your perimeter players to keep the defense off balance, quick passes between your three quality perimeter players, flash into the posts when it's open, The let Carr be Mr. Windex like he's been doing.  Even best teams shoot less than 40% from 3.  Tougher when you have the agressive perimeter players like Buff State

Don't know if I can come to ROC, pondering

The Bear
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 08, 2011, 01:59:51 AM
Did I die and go to heaven??  Haven't been on the board until late tonight when a friend gave me the d3 bracket and it said Rochester gets "the pod"!!  I just assumed that Middlebury would host!!!  I guess the only team that may be more "ticked off" is Whitworth who travels to Wooster "in the bracket of death"!! :D  My pool bracket still has 12 out of 16 teams but I am hoping that Buff St blows it apart this weekend!!!!  Have to see if I can get parole from the wife and head on down the highway for a "garbage plate" and a slice of heaven if the bengals can "make it happen"!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 08, 2011, 11:02:09 AM
Note to with age and thebear. If u r coming then I got the ticket!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on March 08, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 06, 2011, 09:59:37 PM
I have fond memories too. 

Was at the Final Four in '85 when My Bears lost a one point game to North Park, and then went on to win next 60 in a row.  Was also at Amherst in '05, when Bears were within two of eventual runnerup Rochester with 3:00 to play, then couldn't get a stop.

Think Bengals got a great draw, short trip, huge hometown (East & SOA) crowd, esp in First Game.  460 mile bus trip for SM Md. a pain, at best, although methinks St. Mary's will foot the bill for Southwest airlines ($330/person) from BWI to BUF then bus to ROC, regardless of what NCAA pays for.

Buff State has 5 starters you have to contend with, no weak links, any starter can go off for 20+ if you overlook them.

Rochester will have a PO'd opponent in Middlebury, though, I think Magic and Coach Curle will have insight in what it takes to best them if they prevail, as Cards fought them to a close outcome.

Yellowjackets lost to both Nazareth & Hobart, neither team has the 5 player talent level of the Bengals. 

P.S. Mr. Runge should get lots of reps in Practice this week, Rochester. Middlebury & St. Marys all have a lot of size.  Having that wide body leaning on them would create some traffic in the paint & take some pressure off Justin Mitchell.  Einstein is right, e=mc2, and Mr. Runge has lots of M.

Rooting for your Buffalo Tigers to move to Salem...Very doable.  Just work on Mitchell to play solid D without fouling, and your perimeter players to keep the defense off balance, quick passes between your three quality perimeter players, flash into the posts when it's open, The let Carr be Mr. Windex like he's been doing.  Even best teams shoot less than 40% from 3.  Tougher when you have the agressive perimeter players like Buff State

Don't know if I can come to ROC, pondering

The Bear


Well, that begs the question...how did Buff manage to lose to Naz then?  I know U of R lost to them by 2 in the Wendy's Championship game after beating them 11 days previously.  They also lost to Hobart after beating them a week before.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 08, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on March 08, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
Well, that begs the question...how did Buff manage to lose to Naz then?

Naz 44 free throw attempts (34 of 44)...BENGALS 19 free throw attempts (12 of 19).
Add the fact ( and this was a first for me) that 1 of the referees insisted that fans/realtives of Norman Simmons (who were sitting behind the BENGALS bench) sit down late in the first half.

And then.....

  To add insult to injury while the BENGALS were standing during a time out the same  referee threatened 1 of the Buff State assistant coaches (who just had complained about a call that that particular ref had made) and told him to sit down, during a time out (when the coaches stand). When the assistant coach told the referee that it was a time out he then gave him a tech (see "team" under technicals for Buffalo State-the only 1 of the season and 5 year tenure of Coach Ansari).

  The bottom line is that Naz scored 9 more points than the BENGALS did. But be assured that the BENGALS coaching staff know that 2 of those officials, that worked that NAZ game, will NEVER be assigned to a BUFFALO STATE game EVER!

I dont want to spend anymore time talking about...
A- a team that is no longer playing and
B- trying to butt heads with a U of R supporter. My hope is that Friday night both Western New York teams win and guarantee that our region will be represented in Salem VA for the 1 st time since ???? (see my post under - Multi regions - UAA 1:19 p.m.  which ended with "Good Luck Friday vs. Middlebury") ;)

Personally I am looking for reasons to unite supporters of U of R and Buff State. At least until Friday night is over. And trust me if we lose Friday and U of R wins I will be there Saturday cheering for them.  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on March 08, 2011, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 08, 2011, 02:29:30 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on March 08, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
Well, that begs the question...how did Buff manage to lose to Naz then?

Naz 44 free throw attempts (34 of 44)...BENGALS 19 free throw attempts (12 of 19).
Add the fact ( and this was a first for me) that 1 of the referees insisted that fans/realtives of Norman Simmons (who were sitting behind the BENGALS bench) sit down late in the first half.

And then.....

  To add insult to injury while the BENGALS were standing during a time out the same  referee threatened 1 of the Buff State assistant coaches (who just had complained about a call that that particular ref had made) and told him to sit down, during a time out (when the coaches stand). When the assistant coach told the referee that it was a time out he then gave him a tech (see "team" under technicals for Buffalo State-the only 1 of the season and 5 year tenure of Coach Ansari).

  The bottom line is that Naz scored 9 more points than the BENGALS did. But be assured that the BENGALS coaching staff know that 2 of those officials, that worked that NAZ game, will NEVER be assigned to a BUFFALO STATE game EVER!

I dont want to spend anymore time talking about...
A- a team that is no longer playing and
B- trying to butt heads with a U of R supporter. My hope is that Friday night both Western New York teams win and guarantee that our region will be represented in Salem VA for the 1 st time since ???? (see my post under - Multi regions - UAA 1:19 p.m.  which ended with "Good Luck Friday vs. Middlebury") ;)

Personally I am looking for reasons to unite supporters of U of R and Buff State. At least until Friday night is over. And trust me if we lose Friday and U of R wins I will be there Saturday cheering for them.  :)

And vice versa.  My son may have played for U of R but his grandparents, mother, sister and I are all SUNY grads.  I think the last time the region was represented at the Final Four was 2005 when Rochester lost the title game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 08, 2011, 03:49:00 PM
See you Friday! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 09, 2011, 06:28:06 AM
Seriously considering trying to alter plans and get to the 5:30 game!  Would absolutely love to see Buff St play to the Elite sweet 8 and potentially to Salem! :D  So many connections to Buff St would make it really enjoyable.  The magicman is bummed - all stuck up there in his snow knowing that Middlebury is just a doable trip across the border!  Thank heaven the NCAA doesn't like to pay for flights!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 09, 2011, 08:43:19 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 09, 2011, 06:28:06 AM
Thank heaven the NCAA doesn't like to pay for flights!! ;D

AMEN!!!!!!!  :)

P.s.   With age....The ticket offer still stands!!!!! (and my connections are SOLID ;))
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2011, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 09, 2011, 06:28:06 AM
Seriously considering trying to alter plans and get to the 5:30 game!  Would absolutely love to see Buff St play to the Elite sweet 8 and potentially to Salem! :D  So many connections to Buff St would make it really enjoyable.  The magicman is bummed - all stuck up there in his snow knowing that Middlebury is just a doable trip across the border!  Thank heaven the NCAA doesn't like to pay for flights!! ;D

Go ahead rub it in. :( My loss however was the Bengals gain. The Buffalo State supporters should outnumber the St. Mary's supporters by at least 4 to 1. And if the University of Rochester faithful support their fellow western New Yorkers it'll be a home game for the Bengals. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 09, 2011, 10:16:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 09, 2011, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 09, 2011, 06:28:06 AM
Seriously considering trying to alter plans and get to the 5:30 game!  Would absolutely love to see Buff St play to the Elite sweet 8 and potentially to Salem! :D  So many connections to Buff St would make it really enjoyable.  The magicman is bummed - all stuck up there in his snow knowing that Middlebury is just a doable trip across the border!  Thank heaven the NCAA doesn't like to pay for flights!! ;D

Go ahead rub it in. :( My loss however was the Bengals gain. The Buffalo State supporters should outnumber the St. Mary's supporters by at least 4 to 1. And if the University of Rochester faithful support their fellow Western New Yorkers it'll be a home game for the Bengals. ;D

Trust me magicman. I wish you could make it. :D  Looks like with age and thebear aren't coming so I have 2 extra tickets. U of R support could really help. It's rumored that there's gonna be a big story on Jake and Norman Simmons in the Rochester paper either Thursday or Friday. With the Simmons boys, the BENGALS actually have more Rochester natives on their team (2) than U of R ( 1 - Labanowski)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 10, 2011, 12:38:01 AM
Don't rule me out just yet.....believe me I 'm trying to figure this out!! ;)  I would hate to see a ticket go to waste!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 10, 2011, 11:10:29 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 10, 2011, 12:38:01 AM
Don't rule me out just yet.....believe me I 'm trying to figure this out!! ;)  I would hate to see a ticket go to waste!!! ;D

with age came...You have mail! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2011, 06:12:05 PM
Buffalo State trailing St Mary's 40-32 at the half. Bengals were up 32-31 with 3 minutes to play in the period but they allowed the Seahawks to close the half on a 9-0 run. In those final 3 minutes, Buffalo State missed a 3 pointer, committed a foul, had a turnover, missed a jumper, committed another foul, had a 2nd turnover, a 3rd turnover, a 4th turnover, another foul, and a missed jumper at the buzzer. Just a terrible 3 minutes that may come back to haunt them. I hope not because they have shown that they can play with this team.

Bengals traded early baskets with the Seahawks but St Mary's then when on a 10-0 run to open up a 13-4 lead. Bengals called a time out to regroup and went on a 16-5 run of their own to regain the lead 20-18. Bengals went up 27-23 on a dunk by Justin Mitchell to gain their largest lead of the half and the teams traded baskets until it was 32-31, setting the stage for the last three minutes of the half.  

Bengals big guy Glenroy Carr was limited to less than 3 minutes in the first half as he was hit with 2 fouls in the first 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

Glenroy started the 2nd half and picked up his 3rd foul 3 minutes and 23 seconds into the period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2011, 07:18:54 PM
Buffalo State's playoff run comes to an end as St. Mary's wins the Sweet 16 matchup 85-74.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2011, 11:32:21 PM
Bengals once again found themselves trying to play catchup the entire 2nd half. After some early back and forth action to start the 2nd period the Bengals closed the gap to a single possession, 43-40 score, only 2:38 into the period. St. Mary's came right back to make it 45-40 and Buffalo State responded with a turnover and a missed 3, on their next 2 possessions. The Seahawks nail a 3 and get a layup on their 2 chances and just like that the lead is back up to 10. A Justin Mitchell jumper and 2 free throws by Glenroy Carr cut the lead to 6, but the Seahawks would follow with a 9-2 run and open up a 15 point lead, the game's largest, 61-46, with 12:19 left in the game. The Bengals refused to fold however and outscored the Seahawks 20-8 over the next 6 minutes to once again make it a single possession game at 69-66, forcing a St. Mary's timeout. Seahawks came out of the timeout and a Bengal foul sent Seahawks Alex Franz to the line where he made 1 of 2 to make it a 4 point advantage. Key possession for the Bengals and they failed to score, then gave up a 3 on the defensive end as the lead ballooned to 7 and that was as close as the Bengals could get. The Seahawks outscored Buffalo State 12-8 over the last 3:00 of the game as they hit 6 free throws in a row to close out the game.

Bengals got an outstanding game from Justin Mitchell who led everybody in scoring with 27 points and captured rebounding honors as well, with 7 boards at each end of the floor. His double-double of 14 rebounds and 27 points was one of the finest efforts of the NCAA Sectionals. His stat line was 11x19 from the field, 1x1 from behind the line and 4x5 from the stripe. He also had 4 blocks and 2 steals. Jake Simmons was also in double digits as he scored 17 points (7x16 fg's, 3x8 3's). Glenroy Carr was limited to only 15 minutes of playing time due to foul trouble, but the Bengals handled the boards ok with a 38 to 32 edge over the Seahawks. Buffalo State had more opportunities for rebounds though, as the Seahawks outshot them from the field, from 3 point land, and from the line. Buffalo State had 18 turnovers which played a large role in their 11 point loss.

Seahawks were led by Alex Franz with 17 points and 7 assists. Christian MacAuley added 15 points, 6 rebounds, and 4 blocked shots.

St Mary's will now move on and face Middlebury, a 61-52 winner over Rochester, in the Great 8. This is the farthest the Seahawks have ever advanced in the NCAA tournament. It may also be the farthest Middlebury has ever advanced as well.

Thanks to the Bengals for extending the SUNYAC season as far as you did. The final record for the Bengals stands at 23-7. You didn't win tonight but it's not because you couldn't. A few lucky breaks and this game would have had a different outcome. I'm sure next year Buffalo State will be right back in the thick of things for the conference and regional rankings. A big thank you to  poster Bengalsrule as well. He was always willing to take care of his fellow posters, with travel, lodging and tickets in his neck of the woods. Plus K, again. ;)

PS: Jake Simmons scored 91 fantasy points for me in 3 games. One of the best 3 game averages in the league, 30 ppg. 8-)

Justin Mitchell scored almost as many as Jake as he had 86 for a 28 ppg average. 8-) Good job guys. Would have loved to have gotten a couple more games though. :(
           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 12, 2011, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2011, 11:32:21 PM
Thanks to the Bengals for extending the SUNYAC season as far as you did. The final record for the Bengals stands at 23-7. You didn't win tonight but it's not because you couldn't. A few lucky breaks and this game would have had a different outcome. I'm sure next year Buffalo State will be right back in the thick of things for the conference and regional rankings. A big thank you to  poster Bengalsrule as well. He was always willing to take care of his fellow posters, with travel, lodging and tickets in his neck of the woods. Plus K, again. ;)             

  On behalf of the Buff State BENGALS we all say "Thank you Magicman". You, the bear and with age have been true Yac supporters. Tough night last night but when the smoke settled and the players got home they all felt good about what they had accomplished.

  My heart goes out to Glenroy, our only senior, who is graduating in May. Everyone else is returning.

The Mayor of Buffalo is going to have the team honored in city hall this Weds. Gonna sleep for the rest of the weekend then get back to normal Monday. 7 months until the boys head back to the gym...I can't wait!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 12, 2011, 07:43:25 PM
Great season Bengals!!  And I truly believe the best is yet to come for this young team!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 12, 2011, 10:41:28 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 12, 2011, 07:43:25 PM
I truly believe the best is yet to come for this young team!! ;)

with age...I couldnt have put it better myself! ;)

Thanks!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2011, 03:21:02 PM
Chad Burridge from Oswego State and Jake Simmons from Buffalo State were named to the D3Hoops All-East Region First Team. They were the only 2 players from the SUNYAC to gain All Region honors.

Coach of the Year went to Rochester's Luke Flockerzi, a deserving choice, but Coach Stockwell from Oswego or Coach Ansari from Buffalo State could just as easily have won that honor with the success their programs had this year.

David Golembiowski from SUNYIT was the Player of the Year. Golembiowski wraps up his career as one of the most prolific scorers and rebounders in the history of the East region. He finished with over 2100 points and almost 1000 rebounds.   

Congratulations to all of these players and coaches for an outstanding year.

Here is the complete All East Region teams.

Men's All-East Region Team
Players were nominated for these awards by the Sports Information Directors at the various schools.

Player of the Year: David Golembiowski, Sr., SUNYIT
Coach of the Year: Luke Flockerzi, Rochester
Rookie of the Year: Jared Suderley, Hartwick

First team

Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G John Dibartolomeo  Rochester  So.  Westport, Conn.
G Jake Simmons  Buffalo State  So.  Rochester, N.Y.
F Chad Burridge  Oswego State  Jr.  Hannibal, N.Y.
F David Golembiowski SUNYIT Sr. Barneveld, N.Y.
C Phil Barera  Ithaca  Sr.  Belmont, Mass.


Second team

Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G James Patterson  Utica  Sr.  Poughkeepsie, N.Y.
G Sean Rossi  Ithaca  So.  Sparta, N.J.
F  Pat Sullivan  Hamilton  Jr.  Madison, N.J.
F Simon Smith  Stevens  Jr.  Cranford, N.J.
F Terry Harrison Wells Jr.  Brooklyn, N.Y.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2011, 09:43:35 PM
Dave Golembiowski of SUNYIT and Phil Barera from Ithaca will represent the East region in the NABC All-Star Game. They are on the 10 man East squad and will play the West team on Saturday March 19th at 1:00 PM prior to the National Championship Game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2011, 10:09:30 PM
The National Association of Basketball Coaches also came out with their regional awards today.

Chad Burridge from Oswego State was chosen as the Player of the Year.

Adam Stockwell  from Oswego State was chosen as the Coach of the Year.

Chris Ruiz from Plattsburgh State was named to the Second Team.

Jake Simmons from Buffalo State was named to the Second Team.

Here's the link to the complete list of players chosen from all regions:

http://www.nabc.org/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/nabc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/D3All-District2011   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 17, 2011, 02:23:17 AM
as ALWAYS Magic to the rescue!  Congratulations to all so honored!  Especially "my new old coach" Stockwell!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 17, 2011, 12:45:51 PM
Wonder if Adam Stockwell or Luke Flockerzi from Rochester will get an interview for the vacant Colgate job.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 17, 2011, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 16, 2011, 10:09:30 PM
The National Association of Basketball Coaches also came out with their regional awards today.

Chad Burridge from Oswego State was chosen as the Player of the Year.

Adam Stockwell  from Oswego State was chosen as the Coach of the Year.

Chris Ruiz from Plattsburgh State was named to the Second Team.

Jake Simmons from Buffalo State was named to the Second Team.

Here's the link to the complete list of players chosen from all regions:

http://www.nabc.org/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/nabc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/D3All-District2011   


Wow magic....10 out of 11! Not bad ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2011, 05:41:34 PM
The only player from the East Region to make the D3Hoops All American teams was Dave Golembiowski from SUNYIT, who was named to the 2nd team.

The complete list can be found at this link:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/2011
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 23, 2011, 12:17:40 AM
Congratulations to Bengals (team and rule) on their 23rd place finish in the D3 hoops top 25!! And of course I would also like to congratulate "my new old Coach" and the Oswego Lakers on being 32nd!!   Two young teams to be reckonned with next season!!   And lastly I would be remiss if I did not offer my congratulations to our own "beast from the east" Magicman for his strong silver place finish in the Fantasy League tournament over on the multi-regional topic board.  Only a tremendously strong showing by "hoops fan" in the semi's thwarted having our own "national champ"! Until next year - enjoy that "other division" for a the next week!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 24, 2011, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 23, 2011, 12:17:40 AM
 And lastly I would be remiss if I did not offer my congratulations to our own "beast from the east" Magicman for his strong silver place finish in the Fantasy League tournament over on the multi-regional topic board.  Only a tremendously strong showing by "hoops fan" in the semi's thwarted having our own "national champ"! Until next year - enjoy that "other division" for a the next week!! ;D

Ditto on the congrats to our very own Magicman. He stood tall amongest the very best that D3hoops has to offer and just missed out on the GOLD! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on July 27, 2011, 12:36:26 PM
Stockwell leaves Oswego for Hamilton!!! :)

  Wow you know that a site has not been posted in a while when the warning pops up, just after you hit reply, that says "Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days. Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic."

  In my humble opinion there is no better topic in D3Hoops than SUNYAC Basketball. (but then I'm biased).

  Less than 90 days till practice begins!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 02, 2011, 09:34:41 PM
October is here! T- 13 days till the first whistle blows (in practice).

Pretty soon thebear, Magicman, with age came and a host of SUNYAC lovers will return to these pages and I can have some company as  I anxiously await the 2011-2012 SUNYAC Season!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 06, 2011, 03:11:34 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 02, 2011, 09:34:41 PM
October is here! T- 13 days till the first whistle blows (in practice).

Pretty soon thebear, Magicman, with age came and a host of SUNYAC lovers will return to these pages and I can have some company as  I anxiously await the 2011-2012 SUNYAC Season!!!! ;)

Sounds like someone can't wait  for hoop season to start. I'm eager to see the new Cardinal recruits myself as I heard we have a pretty good group of freshman coming in. Have to think your Bengals are the pre-season favorites, with Oswego and Brockport close behind. Plattsburgh, Cortland and Potsdam round out the top 6 teams. Going to be another dogfight for the top spot, as usual, and I'm hoping a young Cardinal team can mature quickly enough to give your Bengals a battle. Did the guard from Elms transfer to Buff State? And wasn't there supposed to be another player, related to him, that was coming your way?   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 06, 2011, 03:56:43 AM
The Sporting News came out with their Pre-season DIII All American list and Oswego State's Chad Burridge made the 1st team. Jake Simmons from Buffalo State was named to the 2nd team. Nice to see the SUNYAC so well represented!!! Hopefully these are the 1st of many honors this year for this talented pair.

John DiBartolomeo from Rochester made the second team and Matt Pebole from Hobart was named to the honorable mention list. No one else from New York State made the list. 

Oswego State was ranked #8 in the Sporting News preseason poll. Rochester was ranked #6. Buffalo State, Hartwick and Ithaca were other New York schools named as possible breakthroughs. They had Virginia Wesleyan at #1 followed by Marietta, Augustana, Williams and St.Mary's (Md).
Rochester was #6 followed by Franklin & Marshall, Oswego State, Wisconsin-Stevens Point and Cabrini (Pa.). Surprised that Amherst and Middlebury weren't in the Top 10 (they were both named as possible breakthroughs also). They both return a ton of talent (more than Wisconsin-Stevens Point and some of the other schools that were ranked) and they both advanced further than nearly all the schools that are in the Top 10, in last year's NCAA tournament. Wouldn't surprise me to see 1 or both of these schools in the later rounds of this season's NCAA's.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 07, 2011, 09:35:22 PM
Ahhhhhh. All is right with the world when magicman logs in. Now I know that the season is right around the corner.
Hey magicman...could you give me that link to the Sporting news story? I keep getting D-1 predictions!

Good to see that all is well in the North country. My beloved Bengals have lost just 1 (Glenroy Carr) from last years Sweeeet 16 team. Not sure why we werent ranked higher but it is what it is! >:(

Oops...yes the Elms guard (Brittain Purcelle) did transfer to Buffalo State. Has to sit out this year but his younger brother, Paris Purcell (frosh), is also here...and he's ready to play now! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 08, 2011, 04:00:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 07, 2011, 09:35:22 PM
Ahhhhhh. All is right with the world when magicman logs in. Now I know that the season is right around the corner.
Hey magicman...could you give me that link to the Sporting news story? I keep getting D-1 predictions!

Good to see that all is well in the North country. My beloved Bengals have lost just 1 (Glenroy Carr) from last years Sweeeet 16 team. Not sure why we werent ranked higher but it is what it is! >:(

Oops...yes the Elms guard (Brittain Purcelle) did transfer to Buffalo State. Has to sit out this year but his younger brother, Paris Purcell (frosh), is also here...and he's ready to play now! ;)

Here's the link to where I found the story:  http://athletics.williams.edu/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/201109199vh3w0.   If the link doesn't work just go to the Williams men's basketball website. It's on the front page.

Too bad Purcelle can't play this year. Would have been nice to add his 13+ppg to the lineup the Bengals will put on the court.

38 days till opening tip off for the Cardinals on Nov. 15th. Unfortunately they're on the road for their first 3 games and I won't get a chance to see them until Nov. 29th when they play their home opener against St. Lawrence. You'll have an opportunity to see them and scout them before I do as they are playing in Rochester on Nov. 18th and 19th at University of Rochester's tournament. They take on the Yellowjackets on Friday the 18th at 8 PM. Keystone (now coached by former Ithaca assistant Nevada Smith) takes on Ursinus in the opening game at 3 PM. Winners and losers play on Sat. at 3 PM (losers) and 8 PM (winners).
Since your Bengals aren't playing that weekend I think Coach Ansari should send a certain assistant named Champ over there to do some scouting on Friday. ;D You'd get to check out a SUNYAC rival, the #6 ranked team in The Sporting News preseason poll (U of R) and 2 teams you might have to face in the NCAA tourney down the road. (Keystone and Ursinus) If nothing else you'd see some good D3 hoops. Plattsburgh only has 10 home games this year, 9 conference opponents and SLU. 15 games on the road. Wish it was the other way around. I won't see you until Friday Feb. 3rd when you make the long haul up to the North Country. Hope you go 23-2 this year in the regular season. ;) I see the team is in D. C. over the holidays. Do you know who the other teams are? Cards are in Florida on Dec. 30th and 31st, but I'm not sure who they play yet.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 08, 2011, 06:53:06 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 08, 2011, 04:00:25 PM
Too bad Purcelle can't play this year. Would have been nice to add his 13+ppg to the lineup the Bengals will put on the court.

38 days till opening tip off for the Cardinals on Nov. 15th. Unfortunately they're on the road for their first 3 games and I won't get a chance to see them until Nov. 29th when they play their home opener against St. Lawrence. You'll have an opportunity to see them and scout them before I do as they are playing in Rochester on Nov. 18th and 19th at University of Rochester's tournament. They take on the Yellowjackets on Friday the 18th at 8 PM. Keystone (now coached by former Ithaca assitant Nevada Smith) takes on Ursinus in the opening game at 3 PM. Winners and losers play on Sat. at 3 PM (losers) and 8 PM (winners).
Since your Bengals aren't playing that weekend I think Coach Ansari should send a certain assitant named Champ over there to do some scouting on Friday. ;D You'd get to check out a SUNYAC rival, the #6 ranked team in The Sporting News preseason poll (U of R) and 2 teams you might have to face in the NCAA tourney down the road. (Keystone and Ursinus) If nothing else you'd see some good D3 hoops. Plattsburgh only has 10 home games this year, 9 conference opponents and SLU. 15 games on the road. Wish it was the other way around. I won't see you until Friday Feb. 3rd when you make the long haul up to the North Country. Hope you go 23-2 this year in the regular season. ;) I see the team is in D. C. over the holidays. Do you know who the other teams are? Cards are in Florida on Dec. 30th and 31st, but I'm not sure who they play yet.

  Yep..Brittain will be a good addition next year. Those close to the program ("champ" Im sure will agree - be sure you ask him magicman) clearly remember Purcelle going for 31 in a double overtime loss to Buff State in the Coaches Vs. Cancer tournament last year at Worscester Mass. Heck Purcelle made the D3 Team of The Week for his play that week. I have no doubt that this years Bengals team with possibly 4-5 new players could be the best yet! The other teams in the Catholic Tourney are MCLA and Weslyan. As always magicman scouting reports are welcome!!

  Magicman i'll be sure to let the coaches know about the Tourney at U of R (home of the BENGALS season ending Sweet 16 loss to St. Marys :-[ ). 1 thing is for sure. With a team ranked pre-season top 10 and 1 that could "possibly breakthrough" coupled with a Plattsburgh team that could shock some folks and a Brockport team that has a ton of good players returning...the YAC oughta be ranked higher than 35 in the Massey ratings. Throw in 2 players on the 1st and 2nd team pre-season All-American teams (Burridge & Simmons) and you have a conference that should be doing great things in 2011/2012!!! ;) I just hope Buff State applys to the NCAA, before the Feb. deadline, for the opportunity to host some NCAA's tourney games !!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 15, 2011, 09:39:53 PM
Ahhhhh the sound of sneakers squeaking and whistles blowing! ;D What a beautiful day at Buff State today! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 19, 2011, 03:53:50 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 15, 2011, 09:39:53 PM
Ahhhhh the sound of sneakers squeaking and whistles blowing! ;D What a beautiful day at Buff State today! :)
I'm wondering if you might be hearing the sound of 1 more pair of sneakers squeaking at the Sports Arena. Check out your personal messages.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 19, 2011, 11:26:35 AM
magicman..you have mail!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 19, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
   D3Hoops Pre-season all americans?*^%$#@! >:( :o . Only 1 from SUNYAC..hon mention Chad Burridge (Oswego) less than a month after he made 1st team pre-season All American in the College basketball edition of the  Sporting News.. No Jake Simmons (Buffalo State) after he made 2nd team on SN last month. Clearly the SUNYAC was not given it's just due by the D3HOOPS sportswriters!

    Let me prove a point if I may. The 5 first teamers on the Sporting News...Burridge, McCrary (Wheaton), Sharry (Middlebury), *Thomas (Johnson and Wales) and Wang (Williams). The D3Hoops 1st teamers are 4 of the same 5....  Wang, Sharry, McCrary and *Thomas and they replace Burridge with Hollingsworth (MIT). I'm assuming that Burridge got bumped to 2nd team but I was wrong he was bumped past 3rd team and 4th team to Honorable mention.

   The D3hoops 2nd team was similar to the SN 2nd team in that both had  Liddic (Muhlenburg), Halter (Marietta) and Milligan (Franklin and Marshall) and instead of DiBartolomeo (U of Rochester also moved to Hon-Mention) and JAKE Simmons (BUFF STATE) they had Blees (Claremont-Scrubbs) and Meehan (Lebanon Valley).

   So the only folks to be replaced on the 1st 2 SN teams by D3Hoops are those from NY state (2 SUNYAC, 1 UAA). Makes 1 think that D3 Hoops doesn't share our NY State of mind or YAC enthusiasm! Don't know about you but I'm getting that Rodney Dangerfield feeling in SUNYAC. :'( Maybe a Buff State/Oswego semi final, or Buff State /Plattsburgh semi..(gotta make my guy magicman happy ;)) in Salem Va. on 3/16/12,  can quelch those doubters.

  NOTE: As far as the *next to 1st teamer Lamont *Thomas (Johnson and Wales) name........I saw him first hand at the Bradley Center on the campus of Ramapo College in Mahwah N. J., March 5th 2011, when the BENGALS blew out Johnson and Wales 96-72 to go to the Sweet 16. *Thomas had 26 pts & 8 turnovers ..and was NOT the leading scorer in the game. The leading scorer was Jake Simmons with 28 pts & 2 turnovers.

NOVEMBER 15th cant get here fast enough!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2011, 12:15:15 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 19, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
   D3Hoops Pre-season all americans?*^%$#@! >:( :o . Only 1 from SUNYAC..hon mention Chad Burridge (Oswego) less than a month after he made 1st team pre-season All American in the College basketball edition of the  Sporting News.. No Jake Simmons (Buffalo State) after he made 2nd team on SN last month. Clearly the SUNYAC was not given it's just due by the D3HOOPS sportswriters!

Or, with 42 conferences in Division III, we simply gave the SUNYAC slightly above average placement. Does Sporting News know anything about Division III? Does it cover Division III any other day of the year?

By the way, did you watch Lamont Thomas the night before?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 20, 2011, 03:49:06 AM
Hopefully Chad and Jake will both have great seasons again this year and will garner D3hoops post season All American honors. I've seen a lot of the players named on the preseason poll play, either in person or on video, and I feel that our 2 SUNYAC standouts can hold their own against most of them. It's hard to make a list that only has 25 places on it when there are over 5000 D3 players. There will always be athletes that get left off that are deserving of such honors.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 20, 2011, 04:43:41 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2011, 12:15:15 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 19, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
   D3Hoops Pre-season all americans?*^%$#@! >:( :o . Only 1 from SUNYAC..hon mention Chad Burridge (Oswego) less than a month after he made 1st team pre-season All American in the College basketball edition of the  Sporting News.. No Jake Simmons (Buffalo State) after he made 2nd team on SN last month. Clearly the SUNYAC was not given it's just due by the D3HOOPS sportswriters!

Or, with 42 conferences in Division III, we simply gave the SUNYAC slightly above average placement. Does Sporting News know anything about Division III? Does it cover Division III any other day of the year?

By the way, did you watch Lamont Thomas the night before?

  Yes I did watch Thomas the night before vs Ramapo (the host school). And he was, in 1 word, AMAZING. I believe he scored 43 in their overtime victory. And if I'm not mistaken he scored 12 of thier first 15 points! The next night I saw him against a SUNYAC team (Buff State BENGALS), thats plays defense (SUNYAC style) and to be honest Chris Ruiz impressed me more. And yes... while he was good at 1 end of the floor he was horrible at the other end. His defense was horrible, (had 4 fouls in the first half including a TECHNICAL after his 3rd personal with 23 seconds left in the half).  I have learned, over the past 4/5 seasons, to respect the complete game of those in the SUNYAC (and yes Pat...I am biased ;D ).

   Having said all that Pat,  I do respect your opinion over any others in D3 (along with magicman's  ;)). Thats why last week on D3 FOOTBALL-NJAC, I refered to you as the "D3 GURU" of all D3 sports. I guess I just thought that our guys would have fared better in your pre-season poll. Magicman brings up a good point that it's difficult, at best, to pick 25 out of 5,000 plus players. When you put it like that then who can argue? ???

  Here's to hoping that you keep a good eye on some of the SUNYAC teams this year, especially last years 4 SUNYAC semi-finalists. Brockport opens away at Montclair (NJAC 20-8 last year) and then possibly plays the host school Farmingdale (Skyline conf 16-10 ). Oswego, who opens at Liberty league member, St. Lawrence , and then faces NCAA participant Ithaca ( 20-7 last season-Empire 8) and then another NCAA participant in Wells (NEAC 17-12). Plattsburgh which their entire starting 5 depart after last season, begins on the road at Norwich (GNAC  16-12)  and then they head to Rochester for, I. M. H. O.,  the Mother of all pre-season tourneys where they face an Elite 8 NCAA participant, U of Rochester (record doesn't matter when you are 1 win away from the final four) and then either Keystone College (20-6 CSAC) or Ursinus (Centenial Conference - with thier SN and D3Hoops pre-season All American Jon Ward). I'll be there for that 1. Something tells me that Coach Curle will have a talented group of newcomers that wil pick up where Ruiz and Co. left off. As far as my beloved BENGALS, they open against D'Youville and Pitt-Bradford (both of the AMCC), then on to NAIA D2 Houghton college. Thier first real non-conference test comes in late Dec when they travel to Catholic University (see D3hoops story 10/14 "CUA excited to begin their season..."). On New Years Eve., the BENGALS face Wesleyan University out of the NESCAC, (gotta get the scouting report from some fellow Yac lovers  ;) ) which currently is the #3 conference according to Massey! IF the BENGALS win that game, then they could possbly face host CUA on New Years Day. That tourney will give many in Western NY, and Yac lovers, an idea of what this years BENGAL look like.

  I'd also keep an eye on New Paltz, with their new coach Mike Rejniak, and returning All SUNYAC 3rd teamers Shareef Taylor and Harris Wichard. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cortland with their Hall of fame (to be) Coach and 2nd team all SUNYAC'er Jesse Winter surprise a few folks. Heck I expect  Oneonta, Fredonia, Geneseo or Potsdam with all purpose junior Curtis Pierce (3rd team Yac), to all have better than .500 record outside of SUNYAC play.

  Pat keep doing what you are doing. You and D3Hoops has been, and will continue to be, the most respected source for us guys (and gals) who love these true student athletes and respect their dedication to college basketball. I hope as the season moves on that you will see, what many of us in this great State see in our 10 member institutions that make up the State University of New York Athletic Conference - D3 style!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on October 24, 2011, 11:57:29 AM
Wait for it.............
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on October 24, 2011, 12:53:05 PM
Nice to see two SUNYAC schools in the pre-season top 20!  Congrats to Oswego and Buff State...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 24, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on October 24, 2011, 12:53:05 PM
Nice to see two SUNYAC schools in the pre-season top 20!  Congrats to Oswego and Buff State...

Yes it was!
Oswego State at #18 (168 points) and Buffalo State at #19 (161 points). My Cardinals have to take on #7 Rochester (374 points) the 2nd game of the season in Rochester on Nov. 18th. Will be a tough matchup for a young Plattsburgh State team. I can still dream of an upset though. ;D

Hartwick College (42 points), Hobart (4 points) and SUNY Purchase (2 points) were the only other NY schools to receive any votes.

I was a little surprised that Keystone (PA) didn't get a single vote. The Giants return 4 starters, from a team that went 21-6 last year. Keystone had back to back victories at Oswego's  season opening tournament last year over Brockport State 67-61 and the next day took down the Lakers 76-72. The winner of the Rochester/Plattsburgh State game will face the winner of Keystone/Ursinus in the Rochester tournament on Nov. 19th. Wouldn't surprise me to see Keystone come away with the championship.

Here's the link to the D3hoops Top 25 Preseason Poll.    http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2011-12/preseason
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 24, 2011, 04:30:17 PM
Oswego, Brockport and Fredonia rosters are posted for 2011-12 season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2011, 09:30:28 PM
Probably because Keystone lost its coach and that league isn't very good. Many of the stronger programs went to the MAC and the league replaced them with NEAC teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 25, 2011, 01:49:27 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 24, 2011, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on October 24, 2011, 12:53:05 PM
Nice to see two SUNYAC schools in the pre-season top 20!  Congrats to Oswego and Buff State...

Yes it was!
Oswego State at #18 (168 points) and Buffalo State at #19 (161 points). My Cardinals have to take on #7 Rochester (374 points) the 2nd game of the season in Rochester on Nov. 18th. Will be a tough matchup for a young Plattsburgh State team. I can still dream of an upset though. ;D


Im taking the winner of the U of R vs Plattsburgh game to win the Championship!

And I agree.... it is NICE to see 2 SUNYAC schools in the preseason top 20! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 25, 2011, 04:19:55 AM
D III News came out with their preseason predictions on Monday and they had Oswego State #24. Buffalo State was listed in the others to watch list. Rochester was ranked #6 and Ithaca was the only other NY school mentioned as they were on the watch list as well.

They had the East region preseason All Americans as Chad Burridge from Oswego State, John DiBartolomeo from Rochester and Chris Ryder from Hartwick. New York players on their honorable mention list were Matt Pebole from Hobart, Pat Sullivan from Hamilton and Terry Harrison from Wells.

They do a preview of each conference and had Oswego as the top team in the YAC followed by Buff State and Plattsburgh. Burridge was their selection as Player of the Year.

They mentioned the Bengals with their all league backcourt of Jake Simmons and Chris Cartwright as the main challenger along with Plattsburgh. Don't think they know that the Cardinals entire starting 5 graduated. No mention of Brockport who returns just about everybody.

They picked Ithaca to win the Empire 8 league followed by Hartwick and Stevens. They pick Skidmore to win the Liberty League with Hobart in 2nd and RPI in 3rd.

They also mentioned Elms as the favorite to win the NECC conference because they return Brittain Purcelle and his 13.1 ppg. Oops!! ;D Little do they know. D3's leading scorer last year, Lamont Thomas from Johnson & Wales, was only on their honorable mention list.

Here's the link to their complete preseason edition:  http://gallery.mailchimp.com/2bc1f77ef4bb7b83f8004e126/files/D3NOctober2011_FINAL.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 25, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 24, 2011, 04:30:17 PM
Oswego, Brockport and Fredonia rosters are posted for 2011-12 season.

Bears roster is up.  Key adds are 6-6 (F) JUCO Corey Ellis (Ulster CC) and
6-5 two time 1st Team Class B All State Player (G/F) Zach Adams from Potsdam Central.

12 players return, including 4 of 5 starters.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 26, 2011, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 25, 2011, 04:19:55 AM

ThThey also mentioned Elms as the favorite to win the NECC conference because they return Brittain Purcelle and his 13.1 ppg. Oops!! ;D Little do they know.

You are so right about that 1 magicman. If they are looking for Brittain Purcelle they need to look on ELMwood ave, in Buffalo NY (1300 Elmwood ave to be exact). Brittain is a full time student at Buffalo State. He's gonna sit out a year and watch his younger brother Paris (freshman), adapt to the college game!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 31, 2011, 05:22:39 AM
New Paltz State posted their 2011-12 roster and the good news is 6'6" Jayquan Anderson who was the Hawk's leading scorer (15.7 ppg) and rebounder (5.7 rpg) during the 2009-10 season is back after missing last year. New Paltz returns a veteran group of players led by last year's leading scorer, senior guard 6'0" Harris Wichard (SUNYAC All Conference 3rd team-14.0 ppg, 4.9 rpg). Also returning are 6'4" junior forward Matt Devine (13.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg) along with last years' starters 7'0" senior center Daniel Olsen (8.1 ppg, 7.0 rpg) and 5'10" senior guard Jermaine Wallace (3.7 ppg). Top reserves 6' 0" junior guard Nick Taldi (8.7 ppg) and 6'4" sophomore forward Taylor Sowah (3.8 ppg, 3.2 rpg) will provide depth off the bench.

The bad news for the Hawks is their other All Conference performer (3rd team) Shareef Taylor is not listed on the 2011-12 roster. Taylor would have been a senior this year and the 6'2" guard who was a 3 year starter for New Paltz had career averages of 14.9 ppg (951 pts in 64 games) and 5.8 rpg. He will be missed as the Hawks could very well have given Oswego and Buff State a battle for the SUNYAC crown. And they still may even without Taylor, but the Hawks will miss his ability to drive the lane, crash the boards or hit the three. He also led the team in assists last year as well. New Paltz roster also shows four freshmen with some size from 6'3" to 6'7". Also returning for the Hawks is 5'7" junior guard Shalik Jenkins, who averaged 6.8 ppg as a freshman in 2008-09 but didn't play the past 2 years.

Will be tough going into the Hawk Center and coming away with a win this year. While the big 3 of Oswego, Buff State and Brockport may be the favorites for the top 3 spots in the YAC, New Paltz may be the dark horse in the race that will sneak up on everyone.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 31, 2011, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 31, 2011, 05:22:39 AM
Will be tough going into the Hawk Center and coming away with a win this year. While the big 3 of Oswego, Buff State and Brockport may be the favorites for the top 3 spots in the YAC, New Paltz may be the dark horse in the race that will sneak up on everyone.     

12/3 BENGALS at New Paltz 4 p.m. that should be a good 1! Maybe you make the ride for that 1 magicman? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 01, 2011, 05:09:05 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 31, 2011, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 31, 2011, 05:22:39 AM
Will be tough going into the Hawk Center and coming away with a win this year. While the big 3 of Oswego, Buff State and Brockport may be the favorites for the top 3 spots in the YAC, New Paltz may be the dark horse in the race that will sneak up on everyone.     

12/3 BENGALS at New Paltz 4 p.m. that should be a good 1! Maybe you make the ride for that 1 magicman? ;)

If I'm going to spend 12 hours on a road trip (down and back) my Cardinals would have to be playing. ;D Anyway, on December 3rd at 4 PM I'll be sitting in my office watching a live webcast of Plattsburgh taking on Oswego at Max Zeil gym in Laker Hall. I will, however, have the live stats up on my computer of the Bengals/Hawks game. ;) New Paltz travels north on Dec. 6th to take on the Cardinals, as we finish off a stretch of 3 conference games in 5 days. (Cortland, Oswego, and New Paltz) We close out the 1st semester when Geneseo and Brockport come to town on the 9th and 10th. Young Cardinals will have their work cut out for them with that 5 game stretch. Will be happy if we go 3-2.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on November 07, 2011, 04:04:34 PM
Finally... Potsdam vs. Algonquin tonight @ 7:30pm... a timely exhibition game that the players are excited about the opportunity to play in real game conditions.  I'm sure The Bear will give a full report on the happenings upon completion of the game.  That said, let's get this season started and make it as unbearable as possible for those who dare enter the confines of Jerry Welsh gymnasium.  To borrow a quote from Andy Williams... "It's the most wonderful time of the year."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 07, 2011, 10:34:32 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on November 07, 2011, 04:04:34 PM
Finally... Potsdam vs. Algonquin tonight @ 7:30pm...   I'm sure The Bear will give a full report on the happenings upon completion of the game. 

With that kind of intro, how can I not respond.  Bears were unbearable in the first half, managed only 21 points in a real stinker of a half, stanza ended with Algonquin Thunder up 36-21.  Did not look like an auspicious beginning to the new year.  Algonquin as usual had both size and athleticism, and gave the Bears fits in the first half with dribble drive and dishes to the arc.

Bears stepped it up in the second half, behind 17 pts from Curtis Pierce, and double figures from Tony Efese and Brad Drysdale.
Efese made a 3ptr with 4 seconds left in regulation to knot the game at 61. 

Bears took command in the overtime en route to a 70-62 final.

Breaks a two year losing streak to the Thunder who are one of the better college division teams in Ontario.


Regular season opens next Monday at Utica College.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2011, 03:26:56 AM
Hopefully the Bears can gain a measure of revenge in their opener against Utica College. Utica won a close one last year and the Bears are on a 4 game losing streak against the Pioneers. This would appear to be the year that the streak comes to an end as Utica lost 4 starters and 7 of their top 9 players off last years team. Potsdam State travels to the Williams Invitational after the Utica College game and while the Bears don't have to face off against host Williams they will have their hands full against a tough Salem State team who returns quite a bit from last year's regular season champion team. It will be interesting to see how they do against the Vikings and their do everything big man Brian Clark. Clark was the MASCAC player of the year last year averaging 19.3 ppg and made the D3hoops Northeast Regional 1st team. Southern Vermont  should be the easier of the 2 games the Bears play that weekend as they lost 4 of their top 5 scorers from last year. Would be nice to start out 3-0 on the road, but that's probably too much to ask.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 10, 2011, 04:03:41 PM

Cortland with all hands (11) returning including all-conference and top scorer J. Winter and backcourt runningmate, No. 2 pointman J. Smith, along with frontcourt crew of J. Connolly, K. McMahon (6.2 reb), M. Kearney, 6-9 D. Sternkopf. All underclassmen. Winter a captain along with N. Sutedjo, one of two seniors. The other is 6-3, 205 guard B. Manning who saw considerable play two seasons ago but wasn't a RDragon in '10-11. Among additions 6-4, 215 jr L. Kirkland from NYC; 6-8, 285 fr M. Brown from Fairport; 6-7, 220 fr M. McGowan from Lake George. CState has Elmira at home on Tuesday and following weekend at Widener tourney opener vs. Del Valley
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 10, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
Welcome Back dex.  Dragons certainly have beefed up the front line, I do want to see film of any contest between 6-8 285 Max Brown and Bengals 6-8 285 Seth Runge, Hopefully the floor won't buckle under the pressure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 13, 2011, 08:34:17 AM
Quote from: thebear on November 10, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
I do want to see film of any contest between 6-8 285 Max Brown and Bengals 6-8 285 Seth Runge, Hopefully the floor won't buckle under the pressure.

Bear..you won't have to wait too long for that 1! Cortland at Buff State 12/9 @ 8p.m..

  One word of caution for the Cortlands Brown. Word is that Seth hired a personal trainer this summer and is a LOT quicker and stronger than he was last season. Doubt the Dragon youngester can keep up with him but when he does, look for Seth to let the young fella know a thing or 2. Pretty much like Dragons Chris Milke  and Paul Oliver did to Seth 2 years ago (2009-2010) when Seth was a BENGAL freshman and faced those veteran RED Dragon mountainmen! It was a lesson he will never forget. I'm sure he is looking forward to returning the courtesy to the young Brown.

Film at 11!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 13, 2011, 01:05:16 PM

Really don't have a clue on Cortland's Brown .....other than his size. Is a frosh. Out of Fairport. Anyone from that area help out on his western NY history .....?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2011, 09:46:38 PM
Haven't seen any predictions yet for the Yac so I'll get the ball rolling.

1.   Oswego State   With their 6 top scorers returning from last year it's hard to look any further than the Lakers as the top team in the conference. Led by preseason All American and reigning SUNYAC Player of the Year 6'7" sr. F Chad Burridge (18.5 ppg, 6.6 rpg) Oswego will be looking to make a deep run in this year's NCAA tournament. Burridge has plenty of help as 3rd team All Conference, 6'6" jr F Hayden Ward (10.6 ppg, 8.1 rpg), 6'4" sr G Conor Monaghan (10.2 ppg, 3.5 rpg 27 3's), 6'1" jr F Chris Gilkes (10.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg), 6'4" sr G Ryan Sheridan (7.4 ppg, 22 3's, 38 steals) and 5'10" sr G Sean Michele (5.8 ppg, 4.1 apg, 32 3's, 46 steals) will prevent opposing defenses from keying too much on Burridge. These 6 players combined to shoot over 45% from the field last year and almost 74% from the foul line. Key reserves will be 5'11" sr G Brian Gebhardt and 6'7" jr F Brendan Nollet. Former coach Adam Stockwell must have had a tough decision to leave this group of talented guys to head off to Hamilton this year. That could be the only roadblock in the Laker's path to the SUNYAC championship as new coach Jason Leone takes over the program. But based on Coach Leone's past success I don't think the Lakers will miss a beat. Coach Leone left behind a pretty good group of players at Keystone, a team that beat Oswego last year 76-72. Too bad there's not a rematch this year.

2.   Buffalo State  If any team will give the Lakers a run for their money it should be the Bengals who made it to the sweet 16 in last year's NCAA tournament. Buffalo State returns 1st team All Conference Guard 6' jr Jake Simmons (19.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 92 3's, 77 steals) and 2nd team AC F  6'5" (he grew an inch) jr Justin Mitchell (14.4 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 49 blocks). Also back is 5'10" starting point guard  sr Norman Simmons (5.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 102 assists, 46 steals). Key reserves last year that will be looking to move into a starter's role are 6'1" so G Nico McLean (5'1 ppg 37 steals), 6'4" sr F Ahmed Nagaya (4.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg) and 5'6" jr G Anthony Hamer (1.9 ppg, 1.8 rpg,). Big body  6'8" jr C Seth Runge will need to help out as well as the Bengals don't appear to have much experience if bigs Mitchell and Nagaya need a break or get in foul trouble. 6'7" Frosh F Anyar Majak might also be a solid contributor in that area.  The loss of 1st team AC Chris Cartwright, who didn't return to school this year, will hurt as Cartwright averaged 16.2 ppg last year and along with Jake Simmons gave the Bengals a dual threat from behind the arc. He had 70 3 pointers last year and without him in the lineup Jake is the only long distance threat. The rest of the Bengal lineup only had a total of 9 3's. I liked Buff State's chances of winning the Yac a whole lot more with Cartwright in the backcourt with Jake and Norman Simmons.

3.   Brockport State   The Golden Eagles also return a ton a talent and one just has to look at last year's SUNYAC semifinal to realize that their chances of claiming the top prize is entirely possible as they defeated the Lakers 74-70 in Max Zeil Gym. Brockport returns 4 starters from last year's team led by 1st team AC 6'5" sr F Kyheem Green (15.8 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 63 blocks, 53 steals) and 2nd team AC 6' sr Guard Gerald Williams (17.3 PPG, 65 3's, 44 steals). Starting point guard 5'8" jr Derek Klein (6.2 ppg, 4.2 apg, 30 3's, 48 steals) and SUNYAC Rookie of the year, 6'1" so guard Jon Ivy (10.3 ppg), who started 18 games last year as a freshman, give Brockport plenty of experience in the backcourt.  Finger Lakes JC tranfer, 6'5" junior Donnell Jackson, comes in with some impressive credentials and could earn a starting job over  6'7"  senior C Kazeem Are (4.8 ppg, 4.9 rpg). Key reserves will be 6'2" sr G Stephen Sisson, and 6'4" so F Dorian Hayden. Jordan Major, a 6'1" jr. guard, who saw very little playing time last year, could also be a solid contributor. He was 4 of 5 with 2 3's last week in 15 minutes of court time in an exhibition game. Freshman that could make an impact are 5'9" G Lance Legister and 6'1" G Jon Veloz. With 9 guards 6"2" or smaller on the 16 man roster I think we'll see more of Coach Dunne's orchestrated havoc on the court. Expect to see a solid 10 man rotation averaging double digits in minutes played.

4.   Cortland State   Another team that returns most of last year's starters. The Red Dragons will be a legitimate threat against every team in the conference. Led by 2nd team AC  5'11" G  jr. Jesse Winter (15.7 ppg, 4.2 apg, 58 3's) and his backcourt mate 6'1" jr. G Jeremy Smith (14.8 ppg, 53 3's) this pair will fire them up from all over the place. I watched them light up Plattsburgh last spring hitting 11x15 from behind the arc. Their inside game is led by probable rookie of the year runnerup, 6'6" so. F/C Kevin McMahon (10.4 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 52% fg). Other bigs are 6'4" so. G/F John Connolly (8.8 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 35 steals), an 18 game starter, who was 4x6 from 3 point land the night Winter and Smith hit 11 of 15, 6'9" jr C Dan Sternkopf (2.9 ppg. 3.9 rpg, 42 blocks) who started in 17 games  and 6'4" so. F/C Maurice Kearney (1.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg), a starter in 25 games. Key player off the bench will be 6'3" jr Harrison Hefele (8.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 41 3's) New faces that are unknown quantities but may contribute are 6'4" jr. F Legree Kirkland, 6'3" sr G Brian Manning, 6'8" fr. C Max Brown, and 6'7" fr. F/C Matt McGowan. Lots of size on this year's Red Dragons which is something they were lacking last year in terms of minutes played by their bigs. They consistently lost the battle of the boards and it looks like Coach Spanbauer is hoping to change that this season.

5.   New Paltz   Confusing information coming out of New Paltz makes it hard to slot this team in the pecking order. Roster published several weeks ago listed 6'6" jr C Jayquan Anderson who was the Hawk's leading scorer (15.7 ppg) and rebounder (5.7 rpg) during the 2009-10 season coming back after missing last year. However a season preview posted on the Hawk's team page on Nov. 11th makes no mention of him being on the team. Anderson was an AC performer as a sophomore and would have been a big contributor to this year's team. New Paltz returns a veteran group of players led by last year's leading scorer, senior guard 6'0" Harris Wichard (SUNYAC All Conference 3rd team-14.0 ppg, 4.9 rpg). Also returning are 6'4" junior forward Matt Devine (13.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg) along with last years' starters 7'0" senior center Daniel Olsen (8.1 ppg, 7.0 rpg) and 5'10" senior guard Jermaine Wallace (3.7 ppg). Top reserves 6' 0" junior guard Nick Taldi (8.7 ppg) and 6'4" sophomore forward Taylor Sowah (3.8 ppg, 3.2 rpg) will provide depth off the bench. Returning after a 2 year layoff is 5'7" jr G Shalik Jenkins (6.7 ppg in 08-09). All conference soccer player and probably the oldest player in the YAC, 29 year old Jamal Lis-Simmons will join the team this year as well.  The bad news for the Hawks is their other All Conference performer (3rd team) Shareef Taylor is not listed on the 2011-12 roster. Taylor would have been a senior this year and the 6'2" guard who was a 3 year starter for New Paltz had career averages of 14.9 ppg (951 pts in 64 games) and 5.8 rpg. He also led the team in assists last year as well. New Paltz roster also shows three freshmen with some size from 6'3" to 6'7". With Anderson and Taylor in the mix this team could have challenged the leaders. Without them I think they're  probably in the right spot or perhaps they fall a little furthur down the ladder. Perhaps new coach Mike Rejniak can perform some magic and help the Hawks get to the next level.   


6.   Plattsburgh State   The bad news: The Cardinals graduated 5 starters. The good news: They got a good group of recruits for the 2nd year in a row. Ketema Brooks, a 5'10" sr. point guard (3.3 ppg, 3.7 apg) and grad student Josh Bruno, a 6'3" shooting guard (4.3 ppg) head the list of returnees. Sophomores Shavar Fields, a 6'6" forward (4.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg), Reggie Williams, a 6'6" forward (1.7 ppg,1.6 rpg) and John Perez a 6'3" G/F (1.7 ppg,1.7 rpg) will need to turn their game up a notch, but all possess the talent to do so. Senior guard 6'1" Junghoon Roh and 6'5"so G/F Anthony Baker will also see increased playing time. New faces this year that could provide an immediate impact are 6'2" fr G Shamoy McIntosh, 5'8" fr point guard Mike Mitchell, 6'5" fr F Ezra Hodgson and 6'4" fr F Gary Tibbs. This year's group will need to come together quickly if they want to challenge the top teams. They could resemble the 8-16 team of 2008-09 which saw another young Cardinal team that was in almost every game but came up short in crunch time. They could also repeat the magic of the 20005-06 team that came into the conference tournament as the 6th seed and put it all together to win the championship. Coach Tom Curle has got the personnel, hopefully that will tranlate into wins. They'll be tested early as they open up with 5 of their first 6 games on the road against the likes of Rochester, Oswego, Cortland, and either Ursinus or Keystone. Home opener isn't until Nov. 29th against a veteran St. Lawrence team.

7.   Potsdam State   Is this the year the Bears get back to respectability? It's been 6 years since Potsdam has won a YAC tournament game and 5 years since they had a winning record. With 12 returning lettermen and 4 players back who started the final 4 games of last year this could be the start of something good. They are still a young team though and this year's edition of the YAC is brutal so I'll be surprised if they finish much higher than where I've got them placed. The Bears will be led once again by 3rd team AC 6' 3" jr G/F Curtis Pierce (13.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 44 steals). Three sophomores, 6'5" G/F Tony Efese (8 starts 9.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg),  6'6" F Rob Duquette (25 starts 8.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg) and 6'3" G Greg Torchon (10 starts 3.0 ppg) will look to improve after starting a number of games last year. Other key players looking to crack the starting lineup are 6'5" sr F Brad Drysdale (7.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg), 5'11" sr G Skip Schwartz (4.6 ppg, 29 3's), 6' jr G Josh Lambert (2.9 ppg, 2.0 rpg) and 5'10" sr G Wesley Francisco. New faces that could help out right away are juco  tranfer 6'6" jr Corey Ellis and local product 6'5" fr Zac Adams from Potsdam High School. Coach Sherry Dobbs has lots of reason for optimism. "We're at a point now where our returning players are sophomores and juniors along with three seniors who have a lot of game experience," stated Coach Dobbs. "We need to move up in the conference standings and compete for a conference championship." I think the young Bearcubs like my Cards are about a year away.

8.   Geneseo State   It will be a dogfight for the final playoff spot in the YAC and I think the Blue Knights will get it as they return their top 8 point producers from last year. Mike Hoy a 6' 2' sr G (12.6 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 54 assists, 32 3's) will once again be counted on as their go to guy. He'll get help from 6'4" so F Jordan Jones (11.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg), 6'3" jr F Ryan Riefenhauser (9.5 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 56 assists) and 6'6" sr F Abe Miller (8.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 30 blocks). Five others averaged double digit minutes last and will look for an increase in playing time. Connor Fedge, a 6' 1' so G (6.0 ppg) 52% fg, 38 assists), John Drazen a 6'8" sr F (5.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg), 6'5" so F Matt Curry (5.1 ppg, 2.5 rpg), 6'2" sr G Ethan Estabrooks 4.8 ppg, 28 3's) and 6'1" so G Thomas Decker (3.9 ppg, 36 assists , 17 3's) will give the Blue Knights plenty of depth. Four Freshman recruits provide added height as they are listed at 6'3", 6'5", 6'6" and 6'6". Injuries hurt Geneseo last year and they had some tough losses to the better teams in the region. I think they will win some of those matchups this year.

9.   Fredonia State   The Blue Devils will look to rebound from a dismal 2010-11 season when they posted a 6-18 record (3-15 SUNYAC). Unfortunately they won't bounce much higher than last year in the conference. Their 3 top scoring players from last year, all underclassmen, are not on this year's roster. That leaves 6'4" sr F Damien Goodwin II (6.2 ppg, 3.2 rpg) as their top scoring returnee. What they will gain however is 5th year player Julius Bryant who sat out last year with an injury. Bryant a 6'5" F was the 2nd leading scorer in 2009-10 when he averaged 10.1 ppg and 4.8 rpg. Also returning after a year off is 6'2" jr G/F Amir Billups (6.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 36 3's in 09-10) who figures to be one of the first players off the bench. Kevin Mitchell a 6'4" sr F (5.4 ppg, 2.3 rpg) is expected to start in the frontcourt and 6'0" sr Leonard Smith, (5.4 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.7 assists pg) who was limited to only 10 games last year, will be the starting point guard. Several transfers will battle it out for the final starting frontcourt position. 6'5" jr Markus Williams or 6'6" jr Devin Case. Other help off the bench will come from 6'1" sr G Jon Herrera, 6'2" sr G Dalton Kashmer, and 5'8" sr G Dior Jackson. Frosh G 6'3" Mark Merritt and soph G 6'1" Adam Dawson may get significant minutes as well.

10  Oneonta State   Always tough to put a team at the bottom of the standings but these Red Dragons lost a ton from a team that went 9-17 (8-10 SUNYAC) last year. The top six scorers are gone and with them went 160 minutes a game and 59 of the 66.7 ppg the team averaged. There are seven returning players led by 6'7" jr F Dan McLaren (2.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 12.4 min.pg) and 6'7" jr C Cameron Boyden (2.1 ppg,2.2 rpg, 12.3 min.pg). 6'2" so. G Kevin Donahue (1.8 ppg, 10.2 min.pg) and 6'2" so. G Dan Lee are the only other players that garnered much playing time last season. Not much is known about the seven new faces on the roster but 2 are freshman, 2 are sophomores, 1 is a junior and 2 are seniors. I hope the Oneonta men's soccer team can pull off the upset this Saturday over St. Lawrence and stay alive in the NCAA tournament, because I don't think the Red Dragon faithful will have much to cheer about on the hardwood this winter, although I hear the Oneonta Ladies are loaded.                     

Opening tip off tonight for a bunch of us. Good luck to all the SUNYAC teams. We need to have a big non-conference winning percentage this year to help us get 2 teams into the dance once again.


       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2011, 11:37:49 AM

Tuesday tips ....

Oswego at St. Lawrence
D'Youville at Buff St.
Elmira at Cortland
Potsdam at Utica College
Geneseo at Medaille
Fredonia at PS Behrend, Pa
Plattsburgh at Norwich, Vt

In Friday debuts ....

New Paltz vs. Centenary, NJ at Scranton tourney
Brockport vs. Montclair at Farmingdale tourney
Kean at Oneonta
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 06:40:31 PM
Lets see if I still have some magic in my selections.

Oswego at St. Lawrence            Lakers open win a win on the road  82-70
D'Youville at Buff St.                 Bengals win easily 90-61
Elmira at Cortland                     Red Dragons by double digits 78-63             
Potsdam at Utica College           Bears break 4 game losing streak against the Pioneers as they win a close one on the road 68-65
Geneseo at Medaille                  Blue Knights 73-65
Fredonia at PS Behrend, Pa        Blue Devils spoil a perfect night as they lose 68-58
Plattsburgh at Norwich, Vt          Cards open with a barnburner and top the Cadets 75-73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 07:07:37 PM
I'm in D3 heaven. Tonight I can watch the Plattsburgh State/Norwich game on live video. Got the women's game on right now Cards up by 5 with 5 min left

Also have the Buff State/D'Youville game on live video.  Buff State women up 51-21

Plus I' ve got the Potsdam State/Utica College game on live video  Lady Bears down 38-36 with 12 min to go

Have to settle for live stats on the Oswego St/St. Lawrence game which is tipping off in a few minutes.

Cortland /Elmira game is live stats as well

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 07:13:40 PM
Oswego State's 1st possession 20 seconds into the game, jumper by who else-- Chad Burridge--it's good and the Laker's take the lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 08:03:13 PM
Oswego State on the short end of a 38-27 halftime score against the Larries.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 08:27:43 PM
Plattsburgh State up 42-26 over Norwich at the break.

Oswego down by as much as 12 early in the 2nd half has come back to make it a 2 point game as they trail SLU 52-50 with 6:20 left to play.

Potsdam up 24-19 over UC with 9:20 left in the 1st half.

Cortland and Elmira tied at 26 with 1:48 left in the 1st half.

Bengals up 45-23 over D'Youville with 6:38 left in the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 08:46:01 PM
Potsdam with a 41-34 lead at the half over UC.

Oswego down 64-61 with 31 seconds left to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 08:48:23 PM
Lakers falter in Canton as SLU upsets Oswego 66-62.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2011, 08:54:03 PM

Oswego battles back, leads 55-54 with 5:05 left on H. Ward hoop. SL reversal at 4:29 and hangs on. C. Burridge bucket gets Lakers within 62-61 at 1:38. Larries' R. Temgoua clutch ft's at 0:51 and a bit later, and gets late steal. Finishes with 23 pts. Burridge 19 pts(7x14fg, 7 reb); H. Ward 13 pts; S. Michele 8 assts.

Cortland barely up at half. Elmira with eight 3s, RDragons shutout beyond arc. Winter scoreless half, M. Brown 5 pts -- a factor yes. J. Smith 7 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 08:59:18 PM
Buffalo State scores 69 in the 1st half against D'Youville. 69-46 at the break.

Plattsburgh now up by 24, 60-36 with 8:45 to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2011, 09:23:29 PM

Geneseo falls 76-56 to Medaille, which nails 10 treys to Knights' 0x5 there. Gens 21x53fg. J. Jones 17 pts(7x15fg); J. McKenna 8 rebs, 8 pts, 4 assts in spare role

Cortland pulling away from Elmira keyed by B. Manning
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2011, 09:38:05 PM

And as the track meet progresses in Buffalo ......Bengals 131, D'Youville 78 with 4' left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
Plattsburgh defeats Norwich 79-57.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 09:47:19 PM
jdex is smiling as his Red Dragons open the season with a 70-56 win over Elmira College.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 09:54:12 PM
Bengals put up an area code as they sprint past D'Youville 141-93. Jake Simmons with 23, Ahmed Nagaya with 23, Roderick Epps with 14,  Stephen Alexander with 13, and Justin Mitchell with 12. All 16 Bengals break into the scoring column.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2011, 09:55:29 PM
Buffaloo St. 141, D'Youville 93 ......Bengals by 58 at 6' mark!! Shoot 57x93 from the field, 6x14 3s. Five in double figures, 14 score. A. Nagaya 23 pts(11x15fg), 6 rebs; J. Simmons 23 pts(8x13fg, 3x7 3s); N. Simmons 8 assts

Cortland gets second half comfort after 28-26 edge at the half. J. Smith 17 pts(5x8fg, 3x6 3s), 5 rebs; K. McMahon 12 pts(6x11fg), 5 rebs; B. Manning 12 pts(4x8fg), 6 rebs. Dragons 22x49fg, 4x13 3s, just 8 Tovers. Elmira 17x71fg, 12x38 3s. J. Keyes 18 pts(5x10fg)

Potsdam wins, Fredonia wins .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on November 15, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
Looks like Oswego lost to St.Lawrence... 66-62... according to Oswego web site... otherwise great night for the YAC!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 10:03:28 PM
Hey the Bears break the losing streak against Utica College as they down the Pioneers in Utica 72-67.  Rob Duqutte (from my neck of the woods-Peru NY) led 4 Bears in double figures with 15 pts. Tony Efese followed with 14, Curtis Pierce had 13, and Brad Drysdale added 12. Pierce just missed a double-double as he led the Bears with 9 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 15, 2011, 10:04:37 PM
The Bear is smiling as Potsdam breaks a 4 year schneid vs. the Utica Pioneers. 72-67.

Bears had four in doubles, led by a gimpy soph Rob Duquette with 15, Tony Efese with 14, Jr. Curtis Pierce with 13 and 9 rebs, and Sr. Brad Drysdale with 12.  Bears had a 46-36 rebounding edge to overcome a 14-28 performance at the charity stripe.

Alex Meyer led Pioneers with 10 pts and 14 rebs.  Other Pioneers in double figures included Matt Baldwin and Wlkery Milles with 12, and Reggie German with 10.

Bears were 26 x 47 inside the arc to offset a dismal 2z15 outside, although best shooter Skip Schwartz was in civvies on the bench.

Swarming Bears combo zone defense held Utica to 37% FG %.

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on November 15, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
Looks like Oswego lost to St.Lawrence... 66-62... according to Oswego web site... otherwise great night for the YAC!

Bear Fan you need to read these boards more. That was posted at 8:48 by yours truly.

Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2011, 08:48:23 PM
Lakers falter in Canton as SLU upsets Oswego 66-62.

And then jdex came on with the wrap up at 8:54.

Quote from: jdex on November 15, 2011, 08:54:03 PM

Oswego battles back, leads 55-54 with 5:05 left on H. Ward hoop. SL reversal at 4:29 and hangs on. C. Burridge bucket gets Lakers within 62-61 at 1:38. Larries' R. Temgoua clutch ft's at 0:51 and a bit later, and gets late steal. Finishes with 23 pts. Burridge 19 pts(7x14fg, 7 reb); H. Ward 13 pts; S. Michele 8 assts.

Cortland barely up at half. Elmira with eight 3s, RDragons shutout beyond arc. Winter scoreless half, M. Brown 5 pts -- a factor yes. J. Smith 7 pts

We had it way before the Oswego website. ;D  Just like we've got the Bears final over Utica.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 15, 2011, 10:11:33 PM
Oswego loss is shocking.  Looks like Saints got off to a big first half lead and held on to the bitter end.

Lakers have some very talented bigs who never saw the court.  Perhaps Stockwell was underestimated as a coach.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 15, 2011, 10:15:41 PM


Just like we've got the Bears final over Utica.  ;)
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We were actually typing at the same time, and I submit my post was more thorough, including props to then home team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
Hey bear, I'm smiling with you. I got one third of my wishful thinking, and even if they don't start out 3-0, I got the one I wanted most. :D



Quote from: magicman on November 08, 2011, 03:26:56 AM
Hopefully the Bears can gain a measure of revenge in their opener against Utica College. Utica won a close one last year and the Bears are on a 4 game losing streak against the Pioneers. This would appear to be the year that the streak comes to an end as Utica lost 4 starters and 7 of their top 9 players off last years team. Potsdam State travels to the Williams Invitational after the Utica College game and while the Bears don't have to face off against host Williams they will have their hands full against a tough Salem State team who returns quite a bit from last year's regular season champion team. It will be interesting to see how they do against the Vikings and their do everything big man Brian Clark. Clark was the MASCAC player of the year last year averaging 19.3 ppg and made the D3hoops Northeast Regional 1st team. Southern Vermont  should be the easier of the 2 games the Bears play that weekend as they lost 4 of their top 5 scorers from last year. Would be nice to start out 3-0 on the road, but that's probably too much to ask.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2011, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 15, 2011, 10:15:41 PM


Just like we've got the Bears final over Utica.  ;)

We were actually typing at the same time, and I submit my post was more thorough, including props to then home team.
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Now you know I wasn't poking fun at you. I saw that we both submitted at about the same time.  8-) I couldn't resist jabbing bear fan though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2011, 10:35:11 PM

Fredonia slow to ignite but wins 61-50 at Penn St. Behrend. Devils take first lead at 19-18 and hold 32-26 margin at intermission. Interesting .....Freds 19x43ft AND 12x29 3s. All but 14 steves from beyond the arc! D. Goodwin 15 pts(4x7 3s); K. Mitchell 11 pts; J. Bryant 10 pts; J. Herrera 5 rebs, 5 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on November 16, 2011, 06:15:04 AM
no worries magic... that's why I am junior varsity and you are All American!  Nice win for a young Cardinal team last night by the way...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 16, 2011, 09:48:28 AM
That Fredonia score is a bit of an upset.  The Devils have been in the lower tier of the 'YAC for a while, and PS-Behrend is a regular NCAA D-III tourney participant.  Massey had that projected as a 13% likelihood that the Devils would prevail.  New season and all, but looks like the conference is picking up a few wins vs. non-conference opponents early in the season.

Bengals - did the scoreboard burn out?  141, that's Grinnell "system" pace.  Bet there weren't many shot clock violations with 230+ points scored.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2011, 10:15:17 AM

Just realized our mistake .....Fredonia 19x43 FG and 12x29 3s ........interesting!?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 16, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
LETS HAVE SOME FUN

What would you think if I told you that the best SUNY Men's Basketball team doesn't play in the SUNYAC.  Also, the Best SUNY Men's Basketball team beginning with the letter P isn't Plattsburgh or Potsdam( please say it ain't so).  The Best SUNY Men's basketball team resides in Westchester County.

SUNY PURCHASE

Unfortunately we will never know if my statement is true because they don't play in the SUNYAC.  If I had anything to do with the SUNYAC, I would reach out to each and every SUNY school and make a true conference.  Make it East/West like it once was.  Top 4 teams in each division make the playoffs.  It would be fun to have some new blood.  FYI, there are 4 SUNY schools in the Skyline Conference plus SUNYIT, Morrisville, Canton, Cobleskill etc etc etc.,

PS Potsdam plays no home non conference games.  That makes for a difficult schedule.  Lets see if they are up for the challenge.
Go Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2011, 12:02:37 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 16, 2011, 09:48:28 AM
Bengals - did the scoreboard burn out?  141, that's Grinnell "system" pace.  Bet there weren't many shot clock violations with 230+ points scored.

  Scoreboard is still standing! And you are right...not 1 shot clock violation!!! The boys were really eager for this 1. 7 new players (6 frosh/1 transfer), coupled with the veterans desire to show that they were ready to pick up from where they left off at last year, made for an exciting opener! A crowd of over 1,100 made the atmosphere electric!

  Ahmed Nagaya (who replaced Center-Glenroy Carr) was clearly the biggest reason why the BENGAL faithful are encouraged about this season. 11/15 from the field, 3 blocks and 6 boards..will make 1 forget about Glenroy quickly.

  The final score really was not a good indicator of how the game went. No starter played more than 20 minutes (and none of the top 8 played the last 10). Our 3rd stringers (3 frosh) gave up 23 points in the last 6 mins of the game. >:( .

The opponent gets tougher next week (Pitt-Bradford)!

  I too agree that it was a good 1st day for the YAC'. I've learned over the years that these games really help all of us come Feb/March! Oddly enough when you look at the Empire 8 website you will see some discomfort/disbelief with Utica's loss to Potsdam. The E8 website lists Utica's record as 1 - 0 and states Utica (vs Potsdam) "W 67-72".  ???

  Fredonias' win over PS Behrend (23-5 last season) was impressive! Magicmans Cards winning at Norwich (16-10 last season/they defeated conf foe and NCAA participant, Johnson and Wales) definitly is also encouraging for the YAC. Not sure which Card was guarding 2011 2nd team GNAC player-Antonio Davis, but to hold Davis to 4 of 9 field goals (10 points) in 34 mins of play is good stuff!! Good luck at U of Rochester Friday!

Congrats to "Team Spanbauer" for thier win over Elmira! Facing defending Freedom Conf Champ/NCAA participant Delaware Valley on the road this Friday should give us a lil more insight into the "BIG Red"

  Hmmm on the Oswego loss at St. Lawrence. I see that only 6 players played more than 5 mins for Oswego. And I noticed that Gilkes (who killed my beloved BENGALS last year) had 2 fouls and 2 turnovers in the span of 25 seconds (14:25-14:01) of the 2nd half. I'd be curious to see how he/they bounce back vs. Ithaca Friday night at home. It would have been nice to have them come to the ARENA on 12/10 with an 8-0 record (and hopefully the BENGALS at 6-0).

Hopefully the YAC will sweep this weekend! I plan on driving to Rochester for the Cards game! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2011, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: bearnation on November 16, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
LETS HAVE SOME FUN

What would you think if I told you that the best SUNY Men's Basketball team doesn't play in the SUNYAC.  Also, the Best SUNY Men's Basketball team beginning with the letter P isn't Plattsburgh or Potsdam( please say it ain't so). 

It Aint so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: bearnation on November 16, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
The Best SUNY Men's basketball team resides in Westchester County.

SUNY PURCHASE

Unfortunately we will never know if my statement is true because they don't play in the SUNYAC.

However we can do a comparison from last season by comparing SUNY Purchases record vs. common opponents that ventured west to take on the YAC'.

Purchase (Skyline conf. Champ and NCAA rep... 24-5 record 2010-11) vs. Mount St. Marys (19-9 record 2010-11.. tied for 2nd in Skyline Conf).

Game 1 at Purchase - Mt St. Marys wins by 11 74-63
Game 2 at Mt. St. Marys - Purchase wins by 4 72-68

Skyline Vs. SUNYAC last season.
11/22 - Mt. St. Marys versus New Paltz (11-14 record 2010-11.. 6th place SUNYAC finish). New Paltz wins 91-88
11/19 - Mt. St. Marys versus Geneseo (11-14 record 2010-11.. 9th place SUNYAC finish). Geneseo wins, 81-77

Not sure what your basis is for saying SUNY Purchase would rule the day in the YAC but I believe that on any day, any team in the SUNYAC would own SUNY Purchase..or any other team in the Skyline! And yes I'm biased..but New Paltz and Geneseo beating a top 2 team from the Skyline....nuff said!!!

Good luck to the Bears this Friday at Salem State!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2011, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on November 16, 2011, 06:15:04 AM
no worries magic... that's why I am junior varsity and you are All American!  Nice win for a young Cardinal team last night by the way...

Thanks Bear Fan,
Cards and Bears both winning on the road in season openers was an early birthday present for me as I hit the Beatles "When I'm" number today.(Don't like to say it, it's so big) My wife did promise to still need me and feed though, on my facebook page.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2011, 04:54:22 PM

Quote from: bearnation on November 16, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
LETS HAVE SOME FUN

What would you think if I told you that the best SUNY Men's Basketball team doesn't play in the SUNYAC.  Also, the Best SUNY Men's Basketball team beginning with the letter P isn't Plattsburgh or Potsdam( please say it ain't so).  The Best SUNY Men's basketball team resides in Westchester County.

SUNY PURCHASE

Unfortunately we will never know if my statement is true because they don't play in the SUNYAC.  If I had anything to do with the SUNYAC, I would reach out to each and every SUNY school and make a true conference.  Make it East/West like it once was.  Top 4 teams in each division make the playoffs.  It would be fun to have some new blood.  FYI, there are 4 SUNY schools in the Skyline Conference plus SUNYIT, Morrisville, Canton, Cobleskill etc etc etc.,

PS Potsdam plays no home non conference games.  That makes for a difficult schedule.  Lets see if they are up for the challenge.
Go Bears.

SUNYIT was a member and decided to go elsewhere at the moment it became competitive, for reasons that escape this older mind at the moment. And wasn't Morrisville a provisionary member while making the jump from two  to four year school? Then decided to head elsewhere and a more competitive setting by its means (although M'ville's move to the NJAC in football amazes us)? Canton and Cobleskill growing as well, but facing the same pains as Morrisville? Also believe Purchase thinks it's just fine in a lesser conference
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2011, 05:58:21 PM
Summary of the Plattsburgh-Norwich game last night. 79-57

The Cadets hung with the Cards for the first 11 minutes and were only down 17-15 with 9:09 left in the half, but 6 different subs came off the Plattsburgh bench and struck quickly as the Cardinals built a 13 point lead, stretching it to 16 at the half. Soph John Perez was  the biggest factor as he scored 10 points in about 10 minutes of court time. Freshmen Mike Mitchell, Shamoy McIntosh, Gary Tibbs, and Ezra Hodgson, along with junior transfer Anthony Hodge all scored their first points for Plattsburgh State in the final 9 minutes of the period. Nice to see all the first year players get involved in a close game situation. Senior point guard Ketema Brooks hit 2 3's, had 4 assists and finished the half with 8 points before yielding the point to Mitchell who had several nice assists of his own. This kid is a great passer and I've already seen him do a few "Mike Deane" passes. Bench players scored 24 of the Cards 42 points.
2nd half was more of the same as Plattsburgh always led by double digits, built their lead to 24 by the midway point of the period and Coach Curle got everybody involved. 11 players had double digit minutes and everyone on the team made it into the scoring column. Curle said,"everyone contributed, there is going to be an issue about who gets what minutes. That is a challenge we are going to have to face, but it's going to be a good challenge. There wasn't really a letdown when we went to our bench." He was also pleased that of the 32 field goals the Cards made, 17 of them were assisted. Cards bench ended up with 49 of the 79 points scored.

John Perez led the Cards with 16 points off the bench and was a perfect 6x6 from the field with 2 3's and 2x2 from the line in 16 minutes. Fr. Tibbs had 10 points (5x5 fg, 0x1 ft) and 4 boards in 12 minutes while Brooks also had 10 points (4x7 fg, 2x2 3's) with 6 assists in 27 minutes. Soph Shavar Fields had 9 pts (4x10fg, 1x3 3's) and 6 boards in 25 minutes. Fr. McIntosh, had 3 pts, 6 rebounds and 5 assists (16 minutes) in his Cardinal debut. Fr. Hodgson ended up with 6pts (3x5fg) and 2 rebounds in 11 mins. Cards shot 58% from the field in each half ending up 32 for 55 and 40% from behind the arc (6x15). They were 9x14 from the line and out rebounded the Cadets 33-27. They also won the turnover battle 13-17.
Norwich placed 3 players in double figures led by Brandon Kuhre with 14 pts (4x8 fg, 4x8 3's 2x2 ft). Antonio Davis had 10 pts (4x9 fg, 2x3 ft) with 6 boards to lead the Cadets in that category. Ryan Williams had 10 pts (3x9 fg, 1x5 3's, 3x4 ft) with 4 boards. Cadets were 18x49 (36.7%) from the field, 5x18 (27.8%) from 3 point land, and 16x21 (76.2 %) from the line.

Cards off to Rochester to take on U of R on Friday at 8:00 PM. Be tough to win that one but hope for a decent showing from this young squad. Have a feeling this could be quite a roller coaster ride this year.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2011, 06:31:18 AM
Quote from: bearnation on November 16, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
LETS HAVE SOME FUN

What would you think if I told you that the best SUNY Men's Basketball team doesn't play in the SUNYAC.  Also, the Best SUNY Men's Basketball team beginning with the letter P isn't Plattsburgh or Potsdam( please say it ain't so).  The Best SUNY Men's basketball team resides in Westchester County.

SUNY PURCHASE


Kind of hard to call them the best SUNY team when they graduated 9 of the 11 players on last years team.   Even if they had those players on the team this year, I'd have to agree with Bengalsrule, they would probably finish in the lower part of the conference. Over the years the YAC has usually done a number on the Skyline schools.

I was looking at SUNY Purchase stats last night. Last year was their best season in school history as they went 24-5 and won their first ever NCAA tournament game. What amazed me was the support they got at their home games. 11 regular season home games and they had less than 90 people at 10 of them. A real hotbed of hoops there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2011, 10:03:13 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 17, 2011, 06:31:18 AM
11 regular season home games and they had less than 90 people at 10 of them. A real hotbed of hoops there.

Way to hit the nail right on the head!  "Hotbed of hoops"! Magicman..I'm gonna have to use that 1 later! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 17, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 17, 2011, 06:31:18 AM
Quote from: bearnation on November 16, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
LETS HAVE SOME FUN

What would you think if I told you that the best SUNY Men's Basketball team doesn't play in the SUNYAC.  Also, the Best SUNY Men's Basketball team beginning with the letter P isn't Plattsburgh or Potsdam( please say it ain't so).  The Best SUNY Men's basketball team resides in Westchester County.

SUNY PURCHASE


Kind of hard to call them the best SUNY team when they graduated 9 of the 11 players on last years team.   Even if they had those players on the team this year, I'd have to agree with Bengalsrule, they would probably finish in the lower part of the conference. Over the years the YAC has usually done a number on the Skyline schools.

I was looking at SUNY Purchase stats last night. Last year was their best season in school history as they went 24-5 and won their first ever NCAA tournament game. What amazed me was the support they got at their home games. 11 regular season home games and they had less than 90 people at 10 of them. A real hotbed of hoops there.

What do you want, like Potsdam, it's known as a performing arts school.  When Half of your student body is comprised of musicians, dancers, actors, and artists, they also have to spend a lot of time practicing and performing, often at the same time as athletic contests.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2011, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 17, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 17, 2011, 06:31:18 AM
Quote from: bearnation on November 16, 2011, 11:00:03 AM
LETS HAVE SOME FUN

What would you think if I told you that the best SUNY Men's Basketball team doesn't play in the SUNYAC.  Also, the Best SUNY Men's Basketball team beginning with the letter P isn't Plattsburgh or Potsdam( please say it ain't so).  The Best SUNY Men's basketball team resides in Westchester County.

SUNY PURCHASE


Kind of hard to call them the best SUNY team when they graduated 9 of the 11 players on last years team.   Even if they had those players on the team this year, I'd have to agree with Bengalsrule, they would probably finish in the lower part of the conference. Over the years the YAC has usually done a number on the Skyline schools.

I was looking at SUNY Purchase stats last night. Last year was their best season in school history as they went 24-5 and won their first ever NCAA tournament game. What amazed me was the support they got at their home games. 11 regular season home games and they had less than 90 people at 10 of them. A real hotbed of hoops there.

What do you want, like Potsdam, it's known as a performing arts school.  When Half of your student body is comprised of musicians, dancers, actors, and artists, they also have to spend a lot of time practicing and performing, often at the same time as athletic contests.

That may be true but I don't ever recall Potsdam having trouble filling Maxcy hall year after year, when the Bears were at the top of their game.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 17, 2011, 08:50:18 PM


That may be true but I don't ever recall Potsdam having trouble filling Maxcy hall year after year, when the Bears were at the top of their game.  ;D
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We're only about 20% musicians, actors, dancers & artists, besides, we had half the Canton, Potsdam, & Massena communities there, (Jerry Welsh was the best salesman ever) whereas Westchester County has less snow and more to do most winters nights, Including D-I hoops at Iona.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2011, 11:12:18 PM
Actors or not...there is nothing about Purchase or the Skyline basketball  that any true YAC' fan should be impressed about!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 18, 2011, 07:24:08 AM
Like I said Lets have some fun

The only thing I know about Purchase is that they are a SUNY school that wasn't very good at any sport until 2 or 3 years ago, 2 trip to the Dance(second round last year), lost their entire team, got 2 preseason votes in the top 25, and Pat Coleman defended the votes on the Skyline Conference link.  That being said I do know that Potsdam plays ZERO, that's right ZERO home non conference games.  I would fire someone over that.  The only SUNYAC school playing more home games then road games is Buffalo State.  We need to change the schedule because we play each other 18 out of 25 games leaving 7 non conference games.  Its not about beating each other  up to get to the dance, its about getting to the dance with as many teams as possible.  In any given year 4 or 5 SUNYAC team have the talent to get there but because of the 18 game conference schedule(there are no weak teams in the SUNYAC anyone can beat anyone on any given day) We don't get the respect we deserve and 2 maybe 3 teams make it.  So I make the statement again make the SUNYAC a true State University of New York Athletic Conference, two divisions, more non conference games, more teams in the tournament.

PS It doesn't matter how many fans watch your home games when 16 games are on the road.  Also how many SUNYAC school have been to the NCAA tournament two years in a row in any sport.  Maybe they aren't a sports minded school but the results are there to speak for themselves.  Competition is always a good thing

GO BEARS, this weekend we will see if we are the real deal or not.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2011, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: bearnation on November 18, 2011, 07:24:08 AM
Like I said Lets have some fun

My last comment on the "fun" with regards to another conference/school in NYS being better than the Yac' and it's schools!

Hopefully the YAc will be deserving of multiple bids this year. Starting out 5-2 in their first 7 games of the season (vs. Skylines record of 1-4 in thier first 5) at least establishs a good trend! My hope this weekend for Sunyac schools is that they 
A- Go 18-0 in thier games this weekend ...and..
B -Schools that begin with the letter "P" i.e. Plattsburgh upsets U of Rochester tonite and wins the Championship tommorow against either Keystone/Ursinus....and ..
C- i.e. Potsdam crushs Salem State tonite and buries Southern Vermont tommorrow in the Williams tournament (pretty smart of Williams to not allow the winners of the first night to face each other on Sat. night).

I'm gonna try and avoid any "fun" conversations that express opinions that put other NYS based conferences above ours. I do hope that Pat Coleman and others pollsters will look at the body of work that our SUNYAC teams produce during their non-confernce games. And when we do begin to beat up on each other we will at least have a 90% or better victory percenatge in our non-conference games!

  P.s. To those fans of New Paltz, Cortland and Oneonta. Good luck as your women (Cortland and New Paltz) and men Oneonta play in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA soccer championships this weekend. I couldn't find a "SUNYAC" site on D3 so for JDEX and those who are strong supporters of SUNYAC it's good to see 2 Yac' schools in the Womens Sweet 16 and Oneonta in the mens S-16. Heck if New Paltz and Cortland win their games this weekend then they could face off in the FINALS of the NCAA Div 3 Soccer Championship. An ALL-SUNYAC final. Now that would be special.

  And to the fans of Skyline soccer............never mind..they don't have anyone left in the NCAA tourney (Women or Men). :-[

GO SUNYAC! Kick some butt this weekend...and have some FUN! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 01:02:08 PM
Friday-Saturday festivities ....

Host Oswego vs. Ithaca tonight following late afternoon Fredonia vs. Wells. Tomorrow Fredonia/IC, Lakers/Wells

Plattsburgh at UR tonight, Keystone/Ursinus matinee. Winners, losers tomorrow

Geneseo vs. St. Joe's (LI) at E. Conn where EC/Worcester St. go in opener. Winners, losers tomorrow

Potsdam draws Salem St. at Williams and at same site Saturday it's Bears/So. Vermont

Cortland tests Delaware Valley at Widener. Hosts vs. PS Mont Alto. Winners, losers tomorrow

Brockport vs. Montclair at Farmingdale. F'dale vs. john Jay. Winners, losers tomorrow

Oneonta vs. Kean at F&M, whose Diplomats meet Neumann. Winners, losers tomorrow

New Paltz vs. Centenary (NJ) at Scranton. Hosts vs. SUNY Maritime. Winners, losers tomorrow

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 06:29:03 PM
 Fredonia gets second win with 52-44 beating of Wells in Oswego. Devils survive 21 Tvers. Lead 24-20 at half, extend to as many as 10 in second period. Make 18x44fg, 4x11 3s. L. Smith 12 pts off bench on 6x9ft, 3x5fg. D. Goodwin 6 rebs, 8 pts. Wells, 0-2, 17x53fg. M. Mayen 15 pts, 13 reb. Devils draw Ithaca on Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 08:15:48 PM

Oneonta pulls away for 78-58 wn over Kean at F&M tourney. OSt up 39-33 midway, quickly hikes margin to double figures and never relinquish. Five starters deliver all but four points. F. Kelly 16 pts, 7 assts; L. Slivinsky 16 pts; D. Lee 14 pts(4x8 3s); D. McLaren 14 pts; N. Sarchioto 14 pts, 8 rebs. Debuting RDragons 26x57fg, 9x29 3s. Kean 1-1

Salem St. 92, Potsdam 63 although much closer contest till late.
New Paltz 85, Centenary 79
Montclair 97, Brockport 92
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 08:20:53 PM
Plattsburgh with an early lead at Rochester 23-17 forcing the Yellowjackets to call a time out. 12-0 run gives the Cards a double digit lead 27-17.

The roller coaster continues as Uof R goes on an 18-6 spurt to take the lead 35-33. with 1 :35 left in the half.

Half ends with Rochester up 36-35.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 08:42:32 PM

Brockport nearly comes all the way back against Montclair, trailing 48-41 at the half and by 19 with 13:24 left. Eagles within three at 8:35 on G. Williams' ft's, again at 78-75 at 5:36 on J. Ivy hoop and by four at 0:36. Montclair resilient enough and three times hikes margin to nine when Bport approaches. Free throws settle season opener for both. Montclair 27x42 to Eagles 16x26. From the field Bport 36x76, Montclair 34x76 and 51-45 board edge. Williams 24 pts(8x18fg, 3x7 3s), 8 rebs, 4 blcks in 34'; L. Legister off the bench for 23 pts(10x18fg), 4 assts in 27'; K. Green 12 pts, 8 rebs. And D. Klein 0 pts, 5pf in 13'. Montclair's A. August 31 pts, 15 rebs in 39'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 08:55:57 PM
I expected Potsdam to have their hands full with Salem State who returned a ton from last year's 20-7 regular season MASCAC champs.

Didn't think that Brockport would lose to Montclair State though. :P

Real surprised that Oneonta won by 20. :o

Fredonia 2-0. Good non-conference start for the Blue Devils. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 09:15:55 PM

New Paltz withstands Centenary comeback at Scranton. Hawks ahead 38-29 at the break but see foe take five point lead at 12:56. NP back on top at 8:20 on H. Wichard trey and builds margin to nine. Centenary closes to one at 3:22 before S. Jenkins answers with bucket for NP. Thrice in final minute finds Centenary within two. M. Devine responds with deuce, N. Taldi with ft's, and Devine from the line at 0:12. Devine 28 pts(9x18fg, 9x10ft), 12 rebs, 5 assts in 39'; Wichard 19 pts(5x15fg), 15 rebs in 37'; Taldi 10 pts; D. Olsen 10 pts, 18 rebs. Hawks with 58 boards and 24x31ft to Cent's 13x17ft. NP opener, Cents 0-2

Cortland 36-28 over Delaware Valley at the half at Widener. Leads by as many as 12
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 09:30:18 PM
Plattsburgh hanging with Rochester down 64-58 with 5:20 left to Play.

Oswego and Ithaca tied at 53 with 12:30 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 09:31:46 PM
Plattsburgh down by 3 with the ball and 2:34 left to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 09:36:20 PM
Plattsburgh down 66-65 with the ball and 1:40 left to play.

Oswego with an 8-0 run to grab a 61-53 lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 09:37:36 PM
Plattsburgh grabs the lead 68-67 on a three by Shavar Fields with 26 seconds left to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 09:45:51 PM

Geneseo tumbles 81-72 to St. Joe's, LI at E. Connecticut. Knights take 38-37 halftime edge and involved in nip and tuck final period. Up by one at 6:10 and again at 4:41 on J. Jones hoops. Joe's seizes lead and mounts 10 point gap at 1:39. Gens with 59-34 reb advantage. Fire at 27x79fg clip. Jones 19 pts(8x19fg), 6 rebs; R. Riefenhauser 13 pts, 12 rebs. Knights 0-2 and face Worcester St. in consi. Worcester beaten 68-48 by EC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 09:50:49 PM
Plattsburgh called for a blocking foul against Dibartolomeo and he goes to the line and makes the first one to tie the game. He misses the 2nd one and Rochester gets the rebound and scores.  Cards come down and miss a shot and after a scramble for a loose ball a foul is called against the Cards. Coach Curle gets called for a technical, and after Rochester goes to the line Curle gets T'd up again and tossed.  Final score 74-68. I think we got jobbed. Even the Uof R announcers said that Dibartolomeo got bailed out on the blocking foul called against Plattsburgh when we had the lead  with 20 seconds left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 10:02:13 PM
Oswego tops Ithaca 74-71.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 10:06:27 PM
Cortland takes out Delaware Valley 71-58, gradually pulling away. RDragons in 36-28 halftime lead. DV makes early final period approach. Strong finish by J. Winter for 18 pts(5x9fg, 3x7 3s). B. Manning with 18 pts(6x10fg, 4x7 3s), 12 rebs; H. Hefele 11 pts(4x5fg, 3x3 3s), 8 rebs; K. McMahon 11 pts, 6 rebs, 5 assts; J. Smith 9 pts, 4 assts. Corts 23x49fg, 10x21 3s, 41-32 board edge. CSt meets host Widener in final. Widener uncontested in 115-47 runaway win over PS Mont Alto (69-28 intermission)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 10:46:46 PM
Oswego grabs the lead on a Conor Monaghan triple just seconds into the game and the Lakers were never headed in the 1st half. They opened up a 9 pt lead at 15-6 6 minutes into the period but Itahca would quickly  tie it at 15 2 minutes later. Lakers would twice more extend their advantage to 8 points but Ithaca would always respond and the teams went into the locker room with the Lakers up 38-36.

Bombers opened the 2nd with a three for their 1st lead of the night and from that point it was back and forth with the teams still tied at 53 wiith 13:44 left to play. Oswego then went on an 8-0 run to grab an advantage they wouldn't relinquish. Down 64-56 the Bombers fought back to within 2 at 64-62 but Chris Gilkes scores on a layup and a threeball to boost the lead to 7. The Bombers made one last push to close to 71-69 with 46 seconds left but the Lakers closed them out at the line.

Four Lakers were in double figures led by Chad Burridge with 23 points (9x17 fg, 2x4 3's 3x3 ft) Chris Gilkes had 15 pts (7x15 fg, 1x5 3's), Sean Michele scored 14 (3x5 fg, 3x5 3's 5x6 ft) and Hayden Ward had 11 pts (4x8 fg, 2x5 3's, 1x2 ft). Michele and Ward both had 4 assists and Michele pulled down a team high 5 rebounds. Lakers were 27x56 fg, 10x25 3's 10x13 ft. They were outrebounded by the Bombers 33-28 but only turned the ball over 8 times to 11 for Ithaca.

Bombers were led by Frank Mitchell who was the game's high scorer with 25 (11x16 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x4 ft). Andrei Oztemel had a double-double with 14 pts (4x12 fg, 2x6 3's, 4x4 ft) and 13 rebounds. Jordan Marcus had 11 pts (3x7 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x4 ft). Sean Rossi had 9 pts and 6 assists. Ithaca shot 22x56 fg, 10x25 3's and 10x13 ft.

Lakers take on Wells in a rematch of last years NCAA 1st round tournament game (won by the Lakers 64-58) at 6:00 PM tomorrow.
Ithaca plays Fredonia State at 2:00 PM tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2011, 10:50:46 PM

Potsdam trailing Salem St. a mere 41-38 at half, that margin compliments of a 3-pter at 0:19. Bears still in the hunt at 61-53 at 12:53. At 10:01 and a dunk twas 70-53. T. Efese 20 pts(7x14fg, 4x6 3s) for Bears. C. Pierce 15 pts, 12 rebs. Salem St. 2-0, Pdam 1-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2011, 11:25:32 PM
Still feeling the effects of the Cards close loss at Rochester. I said earlier I hoped we'd have a good showing, but to have the lead with 25 seconds left against the #7 ranked team on their court was more than I expected. Just sad to see the game end that way. Hopefully the players will learn from this and move forward. Tomorrow they take on Ursinus who got handled pretty easily by a good Keystone team 95-78. I like our chances against Ursinus. The players need to forget about tonight, go out and win one to make that long bus ride home after tomorrow's game an enjoyable one. 

Cardinals were led tonight by Sophomore Shavar Fields who had a career best 25 points (11x16 fg, 2x3 3's, 1x1 ft). Senior Junghoon Roh also had a career high tonight scoring 12 points (5x6 fg, 1x1 3's 1x1 ft). Reggie Williams was the top rebounder for the Cards as he grabbed 10 boards. Plattsburgh shot 25x55 from the field but only 5x18 from the arc. However, they were outstanding from the charity stripe connecting on 13 of 14 attempts. Plattsburgh had 27 rebounds to 28 for Rochester and the Cards had 14 turnovers to 16 for the Yellowjackets.

Rochester was led by their preseason all american John Dibartolomeo with 22 pts (7x10 fg, 0x1 3's 8x11 ft) and 8 boards. Nate Vernon was perfect as he scored 14 points on 5x5 fg and 4x4 ft. Nate Novosel and Chris Dende both had 11 points. The Yellowjackets were 25x46 from the field, 6x13 3's and 18x30 from the line.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 19, 2011, 01:40:54 AM
Simply stated, The Cards got HOMERED.
 
MISSED FT SHOT by Williams, Marcus    00:54    REBOUND (DEF) by John Perez

00:49          FOUL by Shamoy McIntosh (P1T11)
00:43     67-68   V 1   GOOD! 3 PTR by Shavar Fields ASSIST by Ketema Brooks

TIMEOUT TEAM    00:25          
GOOD! FT SHOT by DiBartolomeo, John    00:15     68-68   T 5   FOUL by John Perez
((  completely phantom foul called by underneath official ))

MISSED FT SHOT by DiBartolomeo, John    00:15          
REBOUND (OFF) by Williams, Marcus    00:15          
GOOD! LAYUP by Williams, Marcus [PNT]    00:15     70-68   H 2
   
REBOUND (DEF) by (DEADBALL)    00:07          MISSED 3 PTR by Shamoy McIntosh
00:04          FOUL by Shavar Fields (P5T13)
GOOD! FT SHOT by DiBartolomeo, John    00:04     71-68   H 3   Bench Tech - Curle
GOOD! FT SHOT by DiBartolomeo, John    00:04     72-68   H 4   
GOOD! FT SHOT by DiBartolomeo, John    00:04     73-68   H 5    Bench Tech - Curle eject
MISSED FT SHOT by DiBartolomeo, John    00:04          
REBOUND (OFF) by (DEADBALL)    00:04          
GOOD! FT SHOT by Dende, Chris    00:04     74-68   H 6   
MISSED FT SHOT by Dende, Chris    00:04          REBOUND (DEF) by Ketema Brooks
         
REBOUND (DEF) by (DEADBALL)    00:01          MISSED 3 PTR by Ketema Brooks

The ONLY thing Plattsburgh didn't execute was the box out on the 2nd foul shot (missed) by DiBartolomeo at the 15 seconds to go mark.  That foul call was bogus, as was the 5th foul on Shaver Fields.   Not sure what Curle said but the Zebra's called him for a Bench Tech.   A perfectly fine officiated game was ruined in the last 20 seconds.   Plattsburgh held it's own against larger players at each position.  DiBarolomeo didn't do much until the 2nd half.  U of R bigs aren't fast, don't jump high but they know how to work the paint and bang bodies. They also run their plays well and box out effectively.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 19, 2011, 05:25:22 AM
Is it going to be another long winter for us Bears fans,  I truly wish to return to a bygone era, Instead I get sub 500 seasons, losses of almost 30 points and a schedule which avoids Maxcy/Jerry Welsh, One game doesn't make a season need to rebound and build from it,  Go Bears 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 03:07:58 PM

Brockport drops 81-70 consolation verdict to Farmingdale in latter's tourney. Eagles down 33-29 at half. Only K. Green (21 pts in 29') in double figures point-wise. Grabs 13 boards. G. Williams 5 pts, 4pf, 31'; J. Ivy 9 pts; K. Are 8 rebs.

At half ......Fredonia by 5 over Ithaca in Oswgo, Potsdam trailing So. Vermont at Williams
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 03:13:18 PM

Geneseo loses 83-76 overtime contest to Worcester in E. Connecticut consi
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2011, 03:41:21 PM
Potsdam website says Bears beat So. Vermont 80-66, after trailing 34-31 at the half. 

Williams live stats implementation is not impressive, bug-ridden and flaky.  Surprised given the elite nature of the host institution.

Will provide details when they become known.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 04:08:56 PM

Potsdam actually led 34-31 at halftime, up by 11 at onetime. Maintained upper hand throughout second half. Southern Vermont able to get within five on a few occasions.  Bears up by 14 with a bit over three minutes left. C. Pierce 22 pts(9x11fg), 12 rebs; B. Drysdale 16 pts(6x10fg), 12 rebs; t. Efese 13 pts, 9 rebs. Potsdam with 49-20 rebounding gap. Bears 30x61fg, 2x10 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2011, 04:12:33 PM
Actually for 2nd Day in a row, Williams stat crew had teams reversed.

Bears led 34-31 at the Half, and extended to final margin.

Curtis Pierce had his second straight double-double with 22 pts (9x11 fg) & 12 rebounds.

Bears had 49-20 rebounding margin to overcome 20-10 turnover disadvantage.

Brad Drysdale added 16 and 12 rebs , and Tony Efese had 13 for the Bears who move to 2-1.

So. Vt. was lead by Taeshon Johnson who finished with 30 pts on 12x22 FG.

Bears off until 11/29 when they travel cross town to face Clarkson.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 04:23:18 PM

Fredonia with nice 75-70 conquering of Ithaca on second day of Oswego Max Ziel classic. J. Bryant showed the way. A. Oztemel topped ICers. Freds by 40-35 at the break
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 04:28:19 PM
Well, live stats showing Oswego losing to Wells 71-68 with 16 seconds left but the game hasn't even started yet. Apparently it's the Fredonia -Ithaca score, which jdex has already reported is a final 75-70.  Sure fooled me.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Plattsburgh leads Ursinus 46-42 with 15 minutes left in the game. Cards up at the break, 37-33.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 04:54:00 PM
Cardinals and Ursinus tied at 50 with 12:20 to go but the Bears go on a 21-7 run and now lead 71-57 with 5:24 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 04:57:27 PM
New Paltz down by 13, 47-34, against Scranton at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 05:15:31 PM
Plattsburgh loses to Ursinus 78-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 05:37:15 PM

Cortland nipped by Widener 76-74 in Widener title tourney go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 05:46:06 PM
Cardinals had trouble putting the ball into the hoop today as they only shot 22x62 from the field.(35.5%) Three point attempts were even worse only hitting 5 of 28 attempts (17.9%). Free throws were 18 of 30. (60%).  Cards maintained a 5 pt lead through the early going in the 2nd half but up 46-41 the Bears had a 9-2 spurt to grab a 50-48 lead. It only got worse from there as Ursinus entended their run and went up by 16, 70-54. Twice Cards would get it to single digits but Ursinus always had an answer

Plattsburgh was led by John Perez who had his first career double-double with 17 pts (5-11 fg, 0x1 3's, 7x8 ft) and 11 rebounds 5 (off). No other Cardinal was in double figures. Team only managed 5 assists in the game, a far cry from their past 2 games. Perhaps too many players looking to shoot instead of making the extra pass today. 28 three point attempts, almost half their shots, seems a little out of whack. Only 5 turnovers and 7 steals. Usually with stats like that you wind up on the long end of the score. 11 players broke into the scoring column and 10 of them played double digit minutes.

Ursinus was led by their all american Jon Ward with 23 pts (8x9 fg, 7x9 ft). 2 other Bear players had 13 each. Bears had a big edge in boards 44-33 and had 12 turnovers.

Expected Plattsburgh to win this game but think it will be a recurring situation throughout the season. Another tough game coming up as St. Lawrence will invade Memorial Hall on Tuesday the 29th for the Cards home opener. Nine days of practice for the Cards to get ready for this one. Imagine Coach Curle will not make them easy practices either.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 19, 2011, 05:37:15 PM

Cortland nipped by Widener 76-74 in Widener title tourney go

Ouch, lots of bad news today. Maybe Oneonta and Oswego can salvage some YAC pride. Think the Lakers will win but the Red Dragons are in a tough spot playing #17 F&M at home tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 05:53:12 PM
Geneseo plays behind Worcester nearly the entire way but sends game to OT on A. Drescher 3-pter with 0:14 left. In 37-31 hole at the half, Knights able to tie on one occasion midway into second period. Gens' J. McKenna scores first three OT points, then all Worcester. J. Jones 23 pts(8x13fg), 5pf in 36'; McKenna 15 pts(5x8fg, 2x3 3s), 5pf in 14'; Drescher 11 pts(4x7fg, 3x6 3s); R. Riefenhauser 9 pts, 6 rebs

Fredonia goes to 3-0 by beating Ithaca. Game's 11th tie at 63 with 3:08 to play broken at 1:58 by Freds J. Bryant and Devils authoritive down the stretch. Huge trey from A. Billups at 0:38. Bryant and L. Smith close it out from the ft stripe. Bryant 18 pts(7x12fg), 7 reb; Billups 17 pts(6x10fg); D. Goodwin 16 pts in 19'; Smith 11 pts, 7 rebs; K. Mitchell 4 assts. Devils 28x66fg, 8x27 3s, 11x14ft, outboarded 47-36. Winless IC's A. Oztemel 22 pts(7x16fg, 5x14 3s); J. Marcus 16 pts; S. Rossi 6 assts, 7 tovers.  Bombers 22x61fg, 10x33 3s; 16x21ft.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 06:02:58 PM
If you asked me which SUNYAC team would be 3-0 after the 1st week of the season, I think I would have bet a lot if money that it wouldn't be Fredonia. :o But good for them, I'm glad somebody's helping our in region winning percentage. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 06:05:26 PM
Cortland actually lost 78-74 in tight struggle. RDragons hold 42-38 halftime lead and in late going up 68-67 on pair of B. Manning ft's. Widener connects for six straight points, a steal accounting for a pair. Widener clinches with two charity flips in closing seconds. For Corts it was J. Smith and J. Winter with 21 pts. apiece. Winter landed 3x6 3s, 10x11ft. H. Hefele with 5 assts. Consi sees Delaware Valley elude PS Mont Alto 86-73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
New Paltz is crushed by Scranton 93-59.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 06:49:04 PM
New Paltz fell behind early and was down by double digits after nine minutes. Hawks closed to within 7 or 8 a couple of times, the last at 31-24 with 7 minutes to go in the period. The Royals increased their lead and were up 47-34 at the break. 2nd half it only got worse, as Scranton put them away in the opening 7 minutes of the period with a 21-5 burst that made it 68-39 with 13 minutes remaining.

Harris Wichard led the Hawks wth 23 pts. (4x12 fg,3x8 3's, 4x6 ft). Matt Devine had a double-double with 12 pts (3x10 fg, 1x2 3's 5x5 ft) and 11 rebounds. Hawks 16x49 fg, 7x25 3's 20x31 ft. Lost the board battle 41-36 and had 19 turnovers to only 7 for the Royals.

Scranton placed 4 guys in double figures led by guard Travis Farrell with 16 points.

Apparently early season hopes of  the return of former all conference center Jayquon Anderson didn't happen as there's no sign of him in the box scores or on the roster.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 07:19:45 PM
Oswego State tied with Wells 27-27 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 07:58:46 PM
Lakers up 54-45, biggest lead of the game with 4:14 to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
Wells just took advantage of 2 Laker turnovers and have tied the score at 55 with 26 seconds left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 08:09:57 PM
Oswego's Sean Michele hits a triple at the buzzer to give the Lakers the win at 58-55. Whewwww!!! ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 08:49:37 PM
Is it just me or does Oswego's live stats page suck. Still showing the Wells game at 54-45 with 4:14 to play 30 minutes after the game is over. It hasn't been right all year so far. Hope they're not paying sidearm sports for this lousy service. jdex or thebear are you having similar problems with them?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on November 19, 2011, 10:07:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2011, 08:09:57 PM
Oswego's Sean Michele hits a triple at the buzzer to give the Lakers the win at 58-55. Whewwww!!! ::)

Wells put on man-2-man and 2-2-1 zone press most of the game.  Either full court or 2/3 court after foul shots or made baskets.  Oswego had some problems getting ball across half line
NBA + range - all net...   on a broken play with 0:00.5 or something left (at the release).

Fredonia looked pretty good vs Ithaca also.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2011, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on November 19, 2011, 10:07:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2011, 08:09:57 PM
Oswego's Sean Michele hits a triple at the buzzer to give the Lakers the win at 58-55. Whewwww!!! ::)

Wells put on man-2-man and 2-2-1 zone press most of the game.  Either full court or 2/3 court after foul shots or made baskets.  Oswego had some problems getting ball across half line
NBA + range - all net...   on a broken play with 0:00.5 or something left (at the release).

Fredonia looked pretty good vs Ithaca also.

Yeah I watched it on the video broadcast.  And yeah they pressed all game long. Lakers made some crazy passes near the end that almost cost them the win. Also had the livestats up that didn't work very well as I mentioned. Where you been hiding for the past several years? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2011, 10:50:05 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2011, 10:24:07 PM
Quote from: Cards7580 on November 19, 2011, 10:07:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2011, 08:09:57 PM
Oswego's Sean Michele hits a triple at the buzzer to give the Lakers the win at 58-55. Whewwww!!! ::)
. Where you been hiding for the past several years? ???

magicman..i was gonna ask the same question. Good to see another True Blue Yac' fan on board!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2011, 10:53:28 PM
Oneonta tumbles to F&M 64-46 in F&M final. In 34-26 deficit thru 20 minutes. OSt 15x49fg, 3x13 3s, 13x24ft and on short side of 43-32 rebound stat. D. Lee 14 pts(3x5fg, 2x4 3s); fr F. Kelly 10 pts(4x12fg), 3 stls

Yeah, experienced some livestats frustration. Never appeared from Widener where that board did boast Widener's ECAC football bowl win today. And Fredonia/IC game from Oswego was halted with 0:06 left. Didn't try later for Oswego game. But we're getting spoiled. Couple of years ago few had livestats and more hunting required, sometimes to even learn of a score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2011, 01:20:35 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 19, 2011, 10:53:28 PM
Yeah, experienced some livestats frustration. Never appeared from Widener where that board did boast Widener's ECAC football bowl win today. And Fredonia/IC game from Oswego was halted with 0:06 left. Didn't try later for Oswego game. But we're getting spoiled. Couple of years ago few had livestats and more hunting required, sometimes to even learn of a score.

You're right, we are getting spoiled. You would know more about this than I do but don't schools have to pay these livestat companies to have them put this info on the web? And doesn't anyone from the schools check to see if they're getting their money's worth. Oswego had problems both days and so did UofR. I was hoping to watch my Cards play Rochester on Friday evening, but the video stream was very bad and the live stats didn't work at all. Kept getting a message that said the game hasn't started yet, please check back later. Ended up listening to the game on a Rochester radio station. Had the exact same problems again on Saturday. Live stats for the UR-Keystone game showed a 24-10 score for 3 hours. I notice that live stats for both of these schools, Rochester and Oswego, are powered by Sidearm Sports. I've had that problem with other school as well  and quite often its Sidearm Sports. You can still access Oswego's live stat page from Saturday's game with Wells and it's stuck at 54-45 with 4:14 to play. ???  Presto Sports live stats seems to work a lot better.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2011, 01:25:47 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2011, 10:50:05 PM

magicman..i was gonna ask the same question. Good to see another True Blue Yac' fan on board!!!

Hey Bengals,
Did you go to Rochester to see the games this weekend? Not a peep out of you for the past 2 days.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 20, 2011, 09:06:02 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2011, 01:20:35 AM
Presto Sports live stats seems to work a lot better.

Williams uses Presto Sports, they also had issues.  I believe there are two main problems:

1. Operator Error - the turnover is stat crews is very high, and it's early in the season.  Statcrew in particular is a very efficient program, but a couple finger fumbles and you have a problem.  Statcrew feeds livestats regardless of the application.

2. Network Infrastructure on the campuses.  At most campuses, the main gym is not a high priority for wireless hubs.  They are usually located at a corner of the campus off in the hinterlands, which means long cable runs back to the network hub on campus.  The farther away you are, the more things that can go wrong, and also, if something goes down on a weekend, usually it's not going to get fixed until sometime during the week.

Just based on my experience as both a stats guy and a computer geek.

Hopefully will get better as the season progresses.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
Quote from: thebear on November 20, 2011, 09:06:02 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2011, 01:20:35 AM
Presto Sports live stats seems to work a lot better.

Williams uses Presto Sports, they also had issues.  I believe there are two main problems:

1. Operator Error - the turnover is stat crews is very high, and it's early in the season.  Statcrew in particular is a very efficient program, but a couple finger fumbles and you have a problem.  Statcrew feeds livestats regardless of the application.

2. Network Infrastructure on the campuses.  At most campuses, the main gym is not a high priority for wireless hubs.  They are usually located at a corner of the campus off in the hinterlands, which means long cable runs back to the network hub on campus.  The farther away you are, the more things that can go wrong, and also, if something goes down on a weekend, usually it's not going to get fixed until sometime during the week.

Just based on my experience as both a stats guy and a computer geek.

Hopefully will get better as the season progresses.

Thanks bear, at least I know it's not my computer or me. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2011, 11:24:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2011, 01:25:47 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2011, 10:50:05 PM

magicman..i was gonna ask the same question. Good to see another True Blue Yac' fan on board!!!

Hey Bengals,
Did you go to Rochester to see the games this weekend? Not a peep out of you for the past 2 days.

I made it to Rochester albeit at 2:30 p.m. friday afternoon to pick up my 10 year old for his weekend with dad. I tried to convince him to hang out in the Roc till 10 p.m and see the game and then head back to Buffalo. However his big sister, (my 24 yr old who lives with me) had already told him that they were going to see "Happy Feet 2" at 4:30 soooo back to Buffalo I/we went...never to return again (that evening) :P

P. S. A STROOOONG "GO SUNYAC" shout out to the Red Dragons of Oneonta. Their men's soccer team is heading to San Antonio for the NCAA FINAL 4 of Soccer after winning today vs. Camden - Rutgers!!!

Do us proud Dec 2nd in San Antone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2011, 05:07:18 PM
1st week of Hoops and the 'Yac goes 15-15 ???. Dont know what to make of that quite yet.

"Good Loss" - Cards give U of R all they can handle (and by most accounts the score would have been different if that game had been played on a neutral floor).

"Good Wins" - Both Oswego and Fredonia beat (2011 NCAA participant) Ithaca by 3 and 5 respectively and Fredonia also beats PSU Behrend (23-5 & NCAA participant).

Teams that look better than I thought...Fredonia/Potsdam/Cortland . Fredonia is 4-0 and and Potsdam's only loss is to Salem State which knocked off Williams, the next night, in Williams gym! Cortland handled NCAA participant Delaware Valley and then lost a 4 pointer to an undefeated host Widener  (a game in which they led by 4 at the half).

Teams that don't look as good as I thought they would!
Brockport and New Paltz

Too Soon to tell..
Oneonta

And in the words of Coach Dennis Green...the teams that "They are who we thought they were"....

Geneseo at 0-3 and.......

The Buffalo State BENGALS at 2-0 and averaging 117 points per game while holding their opponents to 71 per contest!

Surprising note. The BENGALS are averaging 23.5 steals per game.

ENJOY the TURKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
The "Week 1 TOP 25" D3Hoops rankings should be coming out his weekend. Any guesses as to where Oswego, Buff State and any other NY state schools will be ranked?? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2011, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
The "Week 1 TOP 25" D3Hoops rankings should be coming out his weekend. Any guesses as to where Oswego, Buff State and any other NY state schools will be ranked?? ???

Poll won't be out until late on Monday Nov. 28th or Tuesday the 29th would be my guess. I think Buffalo St will move up a  few spots, maybe as high as 12th or 13th. Oswego may drop a spot or two. Rochester will drop 6-10 spots, maybe more. In the others receiving votes category, Hobart and Hartwick may receive a few votes but it won't surprise me if they don't.   Augustana, Amherst, and Middlebury will probably be 1, 2, and 3 in that order. Rest of Top Ten will probably be in order, Marietta, Wooster, Virginia Wesleyan, MIT, Whitworth, and Emory through the #9 spot. Cabrini, Mary-Hardin Baylor, and Franklin & Marshall will come in 10-11-12 but not necessarily in that order. Biggest mover of the week may well be #25 Wheaton (Ill) who will jump up considerably, possibly even into the top ten but I think they'll be around the 15 th spot.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2011, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
The "Week 1 TOP 25" D3Hoops rankings should be coming out his weekend. Any guesses as to where Oswego, Buff State and any other NY state schools will be ranked?? ???

Poll won't be out until late on Monday Nov. 28th or Tuesday the 29th would be my guess. I think Buffalo St will move up a  few spots, maybe as high as 12th or 13th. Oswego may drop a spot or two. Rochester will drop 6-10 spots, maybe more. In the others receiving votes category, Hobart and Hartwick may receive a few votes but it won't surprise me if they don't.   Augustana, Amherst, and Middlebury will probably be 1, 2, and 3 in that order. Rest of Top Ten will probably be in order, Marietta, Wooster, MIT, Whitworth, and Emory through the #8 spot. Cabrini, Mary-Hardin Baylor, and Franklin & Marshall will come in 9-10-11 but not necessarily in that order. Biggest mover of the week may well be #25 Wheaton (Ill) who will jump up considerably, possibly even into the top ten but I think they'll be around the 15 th spot.


Hmmmmmmm. :-\
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2011, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2011, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
The "Week 1 TOP 25" D3Hoops rankings should be coming out his weekend. Any guesses as to where Oswego, Buff State and any other NY state schools will be ranked?? ???

Poll won't be out until late on Monday Nov. 28th or Tuesday the 29th would be my guess. I think Buffalo St will move up a  few spots, maybe as high as 12th or 13th. Oswego may drop a spot or two. Rochester will drop 6-10 spots, maybe more. In the others receiving votes category, Hobart and Hartwick may receive a few votes but it won't surprise me if they don't.   Augustana, Amherst, and Middlebury will probably be 1, 2, and 3 in that order. Rest of Top Ten will probably be in order, Marietta, Wooster, MIT, Whitworth, and Emory through the #8 spot. Cabrini, Mary-Hardin Baylor, and Franklin & Marshall will come in 9-10-11 but not necessarily in that order. Biggest mover of the week may well be #25 Wheaton (Ill) who will jump up considerably, possibly even into the top ten but I think they'll be around the 15 th spot.


Hmmmmmmm. :-\

Well, come on, where's your guesses? All you can say is Hmmmmm? ??? ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2011, 03:03:15 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2011, 07:35:21 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2011, 06:42:37 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2011, 09:28:15 PM
The "Week 1 TOP 25" D3Hoops rankings should be coming out his weekend. Any guesses as to where Oswego, Buff State and any other NY state schools will be ranked?? ???

Poll won't be out until late on Monday Nov. 28th or Tuesday the 29th would be my guess. I think Buffalo St will move up a  few spots, maybe as high as 12th or 13th. Oswego may drop a spot or two. Rochester will drop 6-10 spots, maybe more. In the others receiving votes category, Hobart and Hartwick may receive a few votes but it won't surprise me if they don't.   Augustana, Amherst, and Middlebury will probably be 1, 2, and 3 in that order. Rest of Top Ten will probably be in order, Marietta, Wooster, MIT, Whitworth, and Emory through the #8 spot. Cabrini, Mary-Hardin Baylor, and Franklin & Marshall will come in 9-10-11 but not necessarily in that order. Biggest mover of the week may well be #25 Wheaton (Ill) who will jump up considerably, possibly even into the top ten but I think they'll be around the 15 th spot.


Hmmmmmmm. :-\

Well, come on, where's your guesses? All you can say is Hmmmmm? ??? ;D

Here goes magicman.... (The whole damn top 25 !!!)
1 Augustana
2 Amherst
3 Middlebury
4 Marietta
5 Va Wesleyan
6 Wooster
7 MIT
8 Williams
9 Whitworth
10 Emory
11 Cabrini
12 Mary Hardin
13 Franklin & Marshall
14 Buffalo State
15 Rochester
16 St. Thomas
17 Birmingham Southern
18 Wittenberg
19 Wheaton
20 UW Whitewater
21 WPI
22 Hope
23 Oswego
24 Texas - Dallas
25 Hartwick

Dropped out -  St Marys (15), Centre (20), UW River falls (21), Hampden Sydney (23) and UW Stevens Point (24)

P.s. Magicman..do you have Pat Coleman's phone number? ;D I thought that I would save him some time and just have him submit this!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2011, 07:49:31 PM
Oneonta State hosting Utica College tonight at 8 PM. Only game on tap in the SUNYAC.

Tomorrow night's action:

Buffalo State at Houghton    7 PM
Fredonia State at Elmira College  7 PM
Cortland State at Ithaca College  8 PM
St. Lawrence at Plattsburgh State  8 PM
Potsdam State at Clarkson 8 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2011, 08:02:15 PM
SUNYAC Player of the Week for week ending November 20th was Fredonia State's Julius Bryant.

From the SUNYAC website:

MEN'S BASKETBALL – Fredonia

Julius Bryant (Buffalo, NY/Hutch Tech), senior forward

Fredonia State senior forward Julius Bryant helped the Blue Devils defeat a trio of 2011 NCAA Tournament qualifiers to start the 2011-12 season. Bryant averaged 12 points and 5.3 boards in the first week of competition, shooting 52 percent from the floor and 89 percent from the line. Tuesday night, he netted 10 points in a 61-50 win against Penn State Behrend. Over the weekend the Blue Devils defeated Wells and Ithaca in the Max Ziel Tip-Off Tournament. Bryant finished with eight points and five rebounds against the Express and scored 18 points and hauled down seven rebounds verse the Bombers in a 75-70 win. Bryant was named to the all-tournament team for his efforts and the Blue Devils were declared co-champions.



SUNYAC Player of the Week for week ending November 27th was New Paltz State's Matt Devine.

From the SUNYAC website:

MEN'S BASKETBALL – New Paltz

Matt Devine (Manalapan, NJ/Freehold Township), junior forward

New Paltz junior forward Matt Devine scored a career-high 31 points off 11-of-16 shooting (68.8 percent) from the floor and added a career-high 15 rebounds in a 95-88 loss to Mount Saint Mary College last Tuesday night. He was also a perfect 7-of-7 from the free throw line. Devine has notched a double-double in each of New Paltz's three games this year, and he is averaging 23.7 points per game and 12.7 rebounds per game. The Hawks are 1-2 overall and next face cross-river rival Vassar College on Wednesday, Nov. 30, at 7 p.m. in their 2011-12 home opener at the Hawk Center.

Congratulations to both players.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 28, 2011, 08:06:31 PM
Magic, and anyone else who cares, Bears play at Clarkson tomorrow.  Women at 6, Men at 8.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2011, 08:43:28 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 28, 2011, 08:06:31 PM
Magic, and anyone else who cares, Bears play at Clarkson tomorrow.  Women at 6, Men at 8.

Thanks for the correction Bear, I changed it up above in my post. Should have known better than to post these games by checking the SUNYAC site. :P  I better check the other games now by looking at the team schedules. They may be wrong on more than the Potsdam game. Nothing's easy. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
Oneonta leads Utica 32-18 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
Utica outscores Oneonta 56-33 in the 2nd half and wins by a 74-65 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2011, 12:47:35 AM
The 1st regular season Top 25 poll just came out and Buffalo State moves up several spots to #16. Oswego State fell from #18 into the others receiving votes category and would be #32. Rochester as expected dropped from #7 down to #12. The only other teams from the East region to receive votes was Hartwick at #40 with 12 votes and Hobart received 1 vote. The biggest mover of the week as I stated earlier was Wheaton (Ill) who jumped from #25 all the way uo to #13. Surprised to see a 3-2 Washington U team get 6 votes. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2011, 07:43:48 PM
Lets see what the crystal ball can do with tonight's games.


Buffalo State at Houghton    7 PM

The Bengals should breeze through another laugher here and hit the century mark once again should they wish to. I'm thinking Buffalo State wins big 104-65.


Fredonia State at Elmira College  7 PM 

The point spread is Elmira +14 and since they're 0-5 and have lost by 14-14-12-17-14 in that order I can't see them keeping this one in single digits either. Wells beat Elmira by 14, Fredonia beat Wells by 8, I guess you can see where I'm going with this. Blue Devils stay undefeated (who'd a thunk it) and move to 5-0 as they win 68-54.


Cortland State at Ithaca College  8 PM

Ithaca has had it problems starting out 0-4 before they finally put one in the win column. But the win was against a a team that's 1-3 and the Bombers have already dropped 2 games to SUNYAC foes, Oswego and Fredonia. The point spread has the Bombers favored by 1 and with the Cortaca Jug in BBall up for grabs I anticipate a close game. I think the Red Dragons have better shooters and will control the paint so I'm going with Cortland 75-71.


St. Lawrence at Plattsburgh State  8 PM

St Lawrence was picked to come in 4th in the Liberty League Coaches Poll but I think they might do better than that. They opened with a win over Oswego on the road and come into tonight's game with a 2-1 record having lost by double digits to Keene State who will compete stongly for the LEC title this year by all accounts. The Larries and the Cards always play each other tight and I expect this game will be no different. The point spread has the Cardinals favored by 4.5 but I think St Lawrence with their 2 senior leaders will be too tough to handle. I'm just hoping the young Cardinals play like they did against Norwich and Rochester, instead of how they played against Ursinus. So I'll wear my heart on my sleeve, hope the point spread is right and pick the Cardinals 71-67.


Potsdam State at Clarkson 8 PM

The Bears invade Alumni Gym and take on their crosstown rivals. This game should also go down to the wire as the point spread has the Golden Knights favored by a single point. Both teams have played Utica College in Utica with the Bears winning by 5 and Clarkson losing by 3. That's an 8 point swing so I'll take the Bears 69-66.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2011, 09:14:07 PM

Fredonia moves to 5-0 with 71-45 whipping of Elmira. Surge from 29-21 lead at half. Freds 24x38fg, 10x18 3s while Elmirans 15x51fg. J. Herrera 16 pts(4x7 3s); A. Billups 12 pts; D. Kashmer 10 pts, 6 rebs; K. Mitchell 10 pts; L. Smith 6 rebs

At the half .....IC 39, Cortland 31 .......Plattsburgh 30, SL 21.  Buff St. leading Houghton .......Clarkson up on Potsdam
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2011, 09:55:49 PM

Cortland over Ithaca 68-67 on K. McMahon layup off H. Hefele driving assist at 0:04 ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2011, 09:57:58 PM

Plattsburgh overcomes solid St. Lawrence second half for 58-54 victory

Potsdam loses at Clarkson 80-63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2011, 10:11:26 PM

Buffalo St. scoots past host Houghton 89-74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2011, 10:49:01 PM

Cortland, nearly succumbing to hungrier Ithacans after battling back from eight point halftime deficit, pulls it out with four second left. Two times out preceded H. Hefele drive and dish for winning K. McMahon layup. IC can't get off final bid and slip to 1-5 while Corts get to 4-1. RDragons pull into tie at 45 at 13' mark and seize 60-54 edge at 7'. Bomber J. Marcus' 4-point play at 3' lifts IC into 65-64 lead. F. Mitchell steal hikes margin to three at 2:04, but misses key layup down the stretch. B. Manning gets CSt within a point.
J. Smith 14 pts, 7 assts, 6 rebs; Manning 12 pts, 6 rebs; Hefele 11 pts(3x4 3s), 4 assts; McMahon 10 pts, 6 rebs. IC's Mitchell 24 pts(10x15fg), 10 rebs; Marcus 17 pts. Cortsw 27x61fg, 7x26 3s, 7x8ft, 32 rebs. IC 25x58fg, 6x22 3s, 11x15ft, 38 rebs

Potsdam down just 26-22 with 4:57 left in first half, then outscored 13-0 till the bell. Draw to seven midway through second half before Clarkson regains balance. Bear R. Duquette 20 pts(9x18fg); C. Pierce 10 pts, 9 rebs; T. Efese 12 pts. Clarkson hits 57 percent from the floor. Places five in double figure scoring to push record to 3-1. Potsdam 2-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2011, 11:04:02 PM

Unbeaten Buffalo St.'s third straight wasn't as easy as it looks. Bengals build 46-32 intermission gap but witness Houghton on four occasions close to four. Final time 70-66 at 5:31. BS answers with J. Mitchell deuce, J. Simmons trey and N. McLean hoop. Lights out for Houghton at 4:25. Simmons 27 pts(9x20fg, 4x12 3s); A. Majak 13 pts, 11 rebs, 2 blcks in 18'; McLean 13 pts, 5 stls; R. Epps 11 pts. Bengals 33x74fg but outboarded 48-37. Turn Houghton over 26 times. BS 12 TVers. Houghton 2-4 and led by M. Munoz 23 pts, 13 rebs, 5pf in 38'; C. Confair 22 pts, 8 rebs in 31'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2011, 11:36:43 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh State-St. Lawrence game that was quite a defensive battle. First half was a back and forth affair with 6 lead changes and 3 ties with Plattsburgh finally getting a leg up in the final 2 minutes of the period. Up 23-21 with 2:19 remaining Plattsburgh scores the final 7 pts of the half to go into the break up 30-21. Josh Bruno hit a jumper with 1:50 to go and after St Lawrence missed two 3 point attempts on their next possession, freshman Shamoy McIntosh hits a triple with 38 seconds remaining. St. Lawrence comes down for the last shot and misses with 5 seconds left. Cardinals rebound and push it up the court where Shavar Fields gets a layup with 1 second left on the clock. The 9 point halftime advantage would be the largest lead either team would enjoy.
St. Lawrence freshman Brady Condlin opens up the second period with a jumper and a 3 pointer to trim the lead to 4 and after a Cardinal free throw SLU scores 5 more unanswered points to tie the game at 31. A 12-6 spurt by the Saints gives them a 43-37 edge at the 10 minute mark. They continue to hold that lead and 2 free throws by Ralph Temgoua makes it 49-41 for the Larries largest lead of the night wiith 6:40 left on the clock. Slowly the Cardinals closed the gap until they trailed by 3 at 51-48. SLU's J. Brase scores and is fouled but misses the free throw to make it 53-48. Cards Reggie Williams scores on a layup and Saints hit 1 of 2 free throws on their next possession to make 54-50. Card's Coach Curle calls a timeout with 2:23 to go and draws up the play of the game. Cards inbound the ball in front of their bench to freshman point guard Mike Mitchell who takes several dribbles and launches a perfect alley oop pass to a cutting John Perez who slams it down with 2:19 left. Saints call a timeout and on their next possession use the entire shot clock but come up empty. Cards rebound, come down, miss a 3 attempt,  Perez gets the offensive rebound, misses a short jumper,  McIntosh gets that rebound and with 1:17 left McIntosh hits another timely 3 pointer to give the Cards the lead, 55-54. Saints call another time out and Plattsburgh defensive pressure forces St. Lawrence to throw up a 3 point prayer with no time left on the shot clock that doesn't come close to hitting the rim and a shot clock violation is called with 40 seconds left. SLU chooses not to foul and Cards miss a shot with 18 ticks left but Perez once again grabs the offensive rebound and is fouled. He makes the 1st and misses the second. SLU rebounds the miss but Perez steals the ball underneath and puts it back in for a 58-54 lead. SLU comes down attempts a three and Cards grab the final rebound. Coach Curle played every available player tonight and 9 of the 12 had double digit minutes. Nice to see this young team come through in crunch time. Hope I get to see more of it. 

Cardinals place 4 players in double figures led by Perez with 14 pts (6x10 fg, 2x7 ft) and 5 boards in 28 mins but I think he had more than that. Josh Bruno had 10 pts (4x9 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x3 ft) and 7 rebounds in 28 mins. McIntosh also had 12 pts (4x7 fg, 3x3 3's, 1x2 ft) and 6 rebounds in 25 mins. Shavar Fields ended up with 11 pts (5x11 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x2 ft) in 27 mins. Reggie Williams had a good all around game with 2 pts, 6 boards, 2 assists 2 blocks and a steal.

Plattsburgh  shot 23x53 from the field (43.4%), 5x12 3's (41.7 %) and 7x14 ft (50%) they won the rebound battle 35-29 aand had 13 turnovers to 12 for SLU. Cardinals improve to 2-2 for the season.

St Lawrence was led by Brady Condlin with 11 pts (4x6 fg, 1x1 3's, 2x3 ft) and Terry Parham also had 11 pts (5x8 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x1 ft). Janpeter Brase was the leading rebounder in the games as he had 10 boards. Leading scorer for the Saints, Ralph Temgoua was held to 7 pts, 11 below his season average. 2nd leading scorer for SLU, Garrett Sharlow did not play, missing his 2nd straight game. Saints shot 21x55 from the field (38.2%), only 3x15 from the arc (20%), and 9x14 from the line (64.3%).

Plattsburgh goes back on the road this Friday to take on Cortland State. St Lawrence, also 2-2, will travel to Ithaca on Friday to take on the Bombers.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2011, 01:33:41 AM
   Just came back from the Buff State vs. Houghton game. See JDEX report
Quote from: jdex on November 29, 2011, 11:04:02 PM

Unbeaten Buffalo St.'s third straight wasn't as easy as it looks. Bengals build 46-32 intermission gap but witness Houghton on four occasions close to four. Final time 70-66 at 5:31. BS answers with J. Mitchell deuce, J. Simmons trey and N. McLean hoop. Lights out for Houghton at 4:25. Simmons 27 pts(9x20fg, 4x12 3s); A. Majak 13 pts, 11 rebs, 2 blcks in 18'; McLean 13 pts, 5 stls; R. Epps 11 pts. Bengals 33x74fg but outboarded 48-37. Turn Houghton over 26 times. BS 12 TVers. Houghton 2-4 and led by M. Munoz 23 pts, 13 rebs, 5pf in 38'; C. Confair 22 pts, 8 rebs in 31'

Toughest game to date but 1 that also revealed what the BENGALS future looked like. Having to replace Chris Cartwright initially seemed like a tall order. His 16.7 per game look impossible to fill. However after 3 games 3 things are obvious!

  1 - Fabulous FROSH! The BENGALS have the best crop of freshman that anyone in Buffalo can remember. Roderick Epps 6-3 freshman guard from Uniondale L. I. has shown to be serious threat when he steps opn the court. Avg. 11.3 pts per game (3rd best on the team) after 3 games coupled with a 55% shooting from the field makes Roderick an instant threat when he steps on the court.
   Anyar Majak, 6-7 Freshman from Jefferson H. S. in Rochester NY, made a statement tonite with a resounding double double 13pt/11 rebs and 2 blocks in 18 mins of play. What many of us knew he had in him all along, came to light loud and clear this evening. (See more below about the freshman class.)

   2 - Veteran leadership. Seniors Norman Simmons and Ahmed Nagaya have stepped up and have shown to lead by example in their final year as BENGALS. Norman nearly 2 to 1 Assists (14) to turnover (8) ratio will only get better as the season goes on. He is undoubtly the best defensive P.G. in SUNYAC (in my Humble opinion) and his leadership this season has been superb. Ahmed Nagaya has stepped in for the departed Glenroy carr and the BENGALS haven't missed a beat.
  Junior Jake Simmons is well... Jake Simmons. Avg. 24 pts a game and shooting at a better than 41% from 3 pt land (10 of 24 from beyond the arc) makes this 1,000 pt scorer in just 2 seasons  the greatest scoring threat in the conference (IMHO). Not sure what he can do to improve on his 1st team all SUNYAC season from last year but I'm anxious to see. Junior Justin Mitchell, SUNYAC tourney MVP from 2011 Yac Championships, has picked up from where he left off at last year. Nuff said!!

  3 - McLean/Hamer and associates. Sophomore Nico McLean has replaced Chris Cartwright in the BENGALS starting five. What he has brought to this unit is immeasureable. A tough defender and excellent rebounder (16 boards in 3 games). Junior Anthony Hamer is probably, pound for pound, the toughest defender in SUNYAC. A floor general who relieves Norman and Nico and creates matchup problems for 99% of the guards who can't keep up with him.
  The Associates begin with Chris Castren, Seth Runge and Mark Gross. All will see increased playing time with both Runge and Gross spelling Nagaya and Mitchell. Castren is ready to play either the 2, 3 or 4 positions and has a deadly jumper. Freshmen Maurice Miles, Justin Stokes, Troy Singleton and Parris Purcelle along with transfer Stephen Alexander, will all become increasingly important as they get more playing time and find their niche in what most consider the most talented BENGAL team in recent memory!

SUNYAC play this weekend with a visit to Oneonta and New Paltz. Get to see what the BENGALS really look like in games that count!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 03:20:15 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 29, 2011, 10:49:01 PM

Cortland, nearly succumbing to hungrier Ithacans after battling back from eight point halftime deficit, pulls it out with four second left. Two times out preceded H. Hefele drive and dish for winning K. McMahon layup. IC can't get off final bid and slip to 1-5 while Corts get to 4-1.

Looks like Mr. jdex has already put the Plattsburgh-Cortland game this Friday in the win column for the Red Dragons as he shows his favorite team with a 4-1 record. :o Hard to do when they've only played 4 games. ??? Hope he's jinxed them big time. ;) Cards need to repay RDragons for favor bestowed last spring in Plattsburgh. Both teams coming off emotional victories and hard fought games. Wish I could take this one in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 05:17:43 AM
4-1 Tuesday night with my picks as the Bears loss failed to give me the sweep. Really surprised at the MOV for the Knights. Correctly picked 2 barnburners and had the 4 point spread right on in the SLU-Plattsburgh game. Also had both double digit winners tabbed.

Games on tap for this evening:

Geneseo St. vs University of Rochester at Brockport St. 6 PM  (Wendy's Classic)
Roberts Wesleyan at Brockport St 8 PM (Wendy'sClassic)
Vassar College at New Paltz St. 7 PM
Oneonta St. at Skidmore 7 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 05:58:24 AM
Results of SUNYAC teams versus non conference and in region opponents through games of November 29th.

Team                                                   overall record                                                  in region record
Fredonia St.                                                     5-0                                                           5-0
Buffalo St.                                                        3-0                                                           2-0
Cortland St.                                                      3-1                                                           3-1
Oswego St.                                                       3-1                                                           3-1
Plattsburgh St.                                                  2-2                                                           2-2
Potsdam St.                                                      2-2                                                           1-1
Oneonta St.                                                      1-2                                                           1-2
New Paltz St.                                                    1-2                                                           1-2
Brockport St.                                                    0-3                                                           0-3
Geneseo St.                                                      0-3                                                          0-3
                                                                      20-16                                                      18-15
Totals                                                               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2011, 09:37:28 AM

Numbers, numbers ....why so fickle. Just numbers. Cortland fortunate to get past Ithaca. Great execution on winning play, but very, very careless in closing minutes leading to that. As we said, Ithaca looked hungrier. And at 1-5 who can blame them. Much better than that, for sure! Rutgers transfer Mitchell the real deal at D-3. Corts badly beaten off the boards in late going. Still searching for that inside horse. Hope last night's rather inconsistent play was result of T-day layoff. And, yes, Pburghers will be a handful. And on another note, neat to see IC videocast of game in Florida!! Nice job.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2011, 05:58:24 AM
Results of SUNYAC teams versus non conference and in region opponents through games of November 29th.

Team                                                   overall record                                                  in region record
Fredonia St.                                                     5-0                                                           5-0
Buffalo St.                                                        3-0                                                           2-0
Cortland St.                                                      3-1                                                           3-1
Oswego St.                                                       3-1                                                           3-1
Plattsburgh St.                                                  2-2                                                           2-2
Potsdam St.                                                      2-2                                                           1-1
Oneonta St.                                                      1-2                                                           1-2
New Paltz St.                                                    1-2                                                           1-2
Brockport St.                                                    0-3                                                           0-3
Geneseo St.                                                      0-3                                                          0-3
                                                                      20-16                                                      18-15
Totals                                                               

magicman...I wonder how our record stacks up against Empire 8 and Liberty??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 30, 2011, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2011, 05:58:24 AM
Results of SUNYAC teams versus non conference and in region opponents through games of November 29th.

Team                                                   overall record                                                  in region record
Fredonia St.                                                     5-0                                                           5-0
Buffalo St.                                                        3-0                                                           2-0
Cortland St.                                                      3-1                                                           3-1
Oswego St.                                                       3-1                                                           3-1
Plattsburgh St.                                                  2-2                                                           2-2
Potsdam St.                                                      2-2                                                           1-1
Oneonta St.                                                      1-2                                                           1-2
New Paltz St.                                                    1-2                                                           1-2
Brockport St.                                                    0-3                                                           0-3
Geneseo St.                                                      0-3                                                          0-3
                                                                      20-16                                                      18-15
Totals                                                               

magicman...I wonder how our record stacks up against Empire 8 and Liberty??

Massey has the E-8 at 21-15 and the Liberty League at 15-8.  And the NEAC at 8-32
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 06:15:39 PM
Tonight's predictions:

Geneseo St. vs University of Rochester at Brockport St. 6 PM  (Wendy's Classic)

Geneseo, winless on the season won't get lucky tonight either, as The Yellowjackets will come out stinging. The point spread is Geneseo +18 and I would consider it a victory if the Blue Knights could stay within shouting distance. They won't though and Rochester romps 89-67.


Roberts Wesleyan at Brockport St 8 PM (Wendy'sClassic)

Golden Eagles still winless on the season will get lucky tonight as they face a team that also has struggled against weaker competition than Brockport has faced. No posted point spread for this game but I think Coach Dunne will have his team fired up and Brockport comes away with an 82-70 victory.


Vassar College at New Paltz St. 7 PM

New Paltz and Vassar have both lost to Mount St. Mary but at least the Hawks kept it close. New Paltz favored by 11 and should cover. Hawks take this one 80-68.


Oneonta St. at Skidmore 7 PM

Oneonta seems up against as they take another quality team in Skidmore. Thoroughbreds will come out running and may never stop. The spread is Skidmore -11 1/2 and Red Dragons will be hard pressed to keep this one close. Skidmore will take this one 78-62.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 06:59:27 PM
Geneseo making a game of it against Rochester as they lead the Yellowjackets 34-33 at the half. Blue Knights Jordan Jones hits a 3 with 34 seconds left to give Geneseo a 34-31 lead but Jackets Chris Dende hits a jumper at the buzzer to pull Rochester within one. Jones leads all scorers with 16 first half points on 4x8 from the field, 1x1 from the arc and 7x9 from the line. Hope the Blue knights can pull off the upset. Would be a huge confidence builder heading into SUNYAC play. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 08:11:37 PM
Rochester's Dibartolomeo heats up in the 2nd half as he scores 9 straight pts in 2:21 seconds to power the Yellowjackets into a 42-37 advantage with 17:39 to play. He scores 6 more points and has 3 assists as Rochester stretches their lead to 67-53 with 2 minutes left to play. Geneseo was down by 8, at 47-39 and twice fought back to get within 3, the last at 52-49, wih 8:40 to go. Jackets Nate Vernon hits a triple, folowed by a 3 from Chris Dende, a drive by Dibartolomeo, another 3 by Dende, a 2nd 3 from Vernon and a free throw from Dende in the space of 4:14. Just like that it was 67-49 and this game was over. Blue Knights with a final push close to 68-60  but Vernon and Dibartolomeo hit their free throws to make the final 72-60. Valiant effort by Geneseo to keep it close.

Dibartolomeo led Rochester with 25 pts (9x14 fg, 1x3 3's, 6x6 ft,). He also added 5 steals, 5 rebounds and 4 assists in 37 mins.. Chris Dende scored 14 pts (4x10 fg, 3x7 3's, 3x4 ft) in 30 mins. Nate Vernon added 13 pts (4x9 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x3 ft) in 30 mins. Rob Reid was the glassmaster with 10 boards and 6 pts in 24 mins. Rochester was 22x47 fg (46.8%), 7x19 3's (36.8%) and 21x24 ft (87.5%). They were outrebounded 33-27 but only had 14 turnovers to 18 for Geneseo.

Blue Knights Jordan Jones shared scoring honors with Dibartolomeo as he also tossed in 25 pts (7x14 fg, 1x1 3's, 10x16 ft). Abe Miller was the only other Blue Knight in double figs with 12 pts (6x10 fg, 0x1 ft) and added 6 boards. Ryan Riefenhauser grabbed 7 rebounds had 4 pts, 4 steals and 3 assists. Geneseo shot 22x52 fg (42.3%), 2x12 3's (16.7 %) and 14x21 ft (66.7%).

Rochester improves to 5-1 and will play the winner of the Nazareth-RIT game coming up at 8 PM.

Geneseo now 0-4, moves into the consolation bracket and will face the loser of the Naz-RIT game.

Wonder if Rochester is looking for a rematch against Nazareth or is hoping they can avoid the Golden Flyers as Naz now owns a 2 game winning streak over the Yellowjackets. They beat them last year in the Championship game of the Wendy's Classic, 62-60 and knocked Rochester from the undefeated ranks this year with an 82-64 whipping just 8 days ago. Jackets dropped from #7 to #12 in the D3hoops Top 25 because of it. Can someone say revenge.  Naz has to get by RIT first though.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 09:03:50 PM
Brockport leads Roberts Wesleyan 45-32 at halftime. Down 29-26 with 7:50 to go the Golden Eagles finish the period with a 19-3 run. Gerald Williams and Kyheem Green lead the Eagles with 11 points each. Williams scores his 1000th point and Green with a double double in the 1st 20 minutes as he also has 11 rebounds. Donnell Jackson with 8 pts and 5 rebounds as well.
Wesleyan has 10 pts from Mike Stone.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 09:30:29 PM
New Paltz St. defeats Vassar 83-70 to improve to 2-2.

Oneonta falls to Skidmore 62-52 and drops to 1-3 overall.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2011, 10:08:27 PM
Brockport State finally breaks into the win column as they defeat Roberts Wesleyan 79-68. Golden Eagles will now face Hobart on Friday as they handled St John Fisher 83-58.   Wesleyan and Fisher will face each other Friday in the consolation bracket. Gerald Williams led Brockport with 22 points (6X9 fg, 2x4 3's 8x9 ft) in 33 mins. Kyheem Green had 18 pts (8x14 fg, 1x1 3's 1x4 ft) and 18 rebounds in 37 mins. Lance Legister added 13 pts in 26 mins and Donnell Jackson finished with 12 in 29 mins.  RW's Mike Stone was the game's high scorer with 23 pts. Eagles 29x64 fg (39.1), 6x14 3's (42.9%) and 23x35 ft (65.7%). Brockport enjoyed a big margin off the glass with a 53 to 40 edge and both teams had 16 turnovers.

Nazareth defeated RIT 72-66 and will now get a 2nd meeting in 11 days with University of Rochester.

RIT will meet Wesleyan in the consolation bracket.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2011, 12:03:27 AM

New Paltz takes 42-36 lead midway, stretches, then watches Vassar within four about 7' into final period. Hawks hike advantage. Land 25x37ft to Vassar's 10x15ft. M. Devine 23 pts(8x11fg, 6x6ft), 7 reb, 4pf in 28'; H Wichard 22 pts(6x12fg, 9x15ft), 10 reb; N. Taldi 13 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assts. NP 26x56fg

Oneonta trails 29-20 at the half and never makes serious challenge vs. 3-0 Skidmore. K. Donahue 14 pts(5x8fg), 6 reb in 27'; L. Slivinsky 13 pts in 27'; C. Boyden 7 rebs; . Kelly 7 rebs, 9 assts, 5 trnvrs in 35'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2011, 03:56:59 AM
Magicman choices go 4-0 Wed nite to make it 8-1 so far this week. Pretty close with the Port-Wesleyan pick as I had it 82-70 and actual was 79-68.

Nearly nailed the New Paltz-Vassar game as well when I called it 80-68 Hawks. Actual was 83-70. Should have reversed my scores for these 2 games. I would have missed by a combined 2 pts. But I was close enough to give a few guys a laugh or two.

Oneonta and Geneseo lost by double digits as I guessed they would but I'm happy to report they both covered the point spread.Oneonta lost 62-52 to Skidmore but RDragons were getting 11+ points. Blue Knights getting 18 from U of R only lost 72-60. Thought that the winners in these 2 games would put more points on the board than what they did   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2011, 03:56:59 AM
Magicman choices go 4-0 Wed nite to make it 8-1 so far this week.

magicman....
And your predictions for toniote/tommorrow??? ???
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on November 30, 2011, 03:37:44 PM



Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2011, 05:58:24 AM
magicman...I wonder how our record stacks up against Empire 8 and Liberty??
Massey has the E-8 at 21-15 and the Liberty League at 15-8.  And the NEAC at 8-32


Ethelred the ready....
Everytime I go to Massey it only gives me last seasons info. Can't seem to get D3 info for hoops current season. Only the D-1 info is current. Please help!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 02, 2011, 03:09:29 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2011, 03:56:59 AM
Magicman choices go 4-0 Wed nite to make it 8-1 so far this week.

magicman....
And your predictions for toniote/tommorrow??? ???
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on November 30, 2011, 03:37:44 PM



Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2011, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2011, 05:58:24 AM
magicman...I wonder how our record stacks up against Empire 8 and Liberty??
Massey has the E-8 at 21-15 and the Liberty League at 15-8.  And the NEAC at 8-32


Ethelred the ready....
Everytime I go to Massey it only gives me last seasons info. Can't seem to get D3 info for hoops current season. Only the D-1 info is current. Please help!!!

That's happened to me on occasion.  Now that I have it bookmarked it starts with DI but then using the drop down menu in the upper left I can choose any number of choices.  Try this link and change from "Main Group".


http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 07:00:06 PM
Opening night of SUNYAC conference games.


Buffalo St  at  Oneonta St 8 PM

16th ranked Bengals still haven't faced much competition as they bring their 3-0 record into conference play. Point spread has them favored by 13.5  against an Oneonta team that struggles on offense. The Red Dragons will have to play their best to keep it that close. They lost to # 14 Franklin & Marshall by 18 down there, perhaps at home they make it a little closer against a Bengal team that's probably as talented as F & M. But not that much closer. Bengals 84-68.
 

Plattsburgh St  at  Cortland St  8 PM

Always tough to predict my Cardinals because of where my loyalties lie. Point spread has these Red Dragons favored by 2. Both teams with comeback wins in their last contest on Tuesday night. Cards over SLU, Cortland over Ithaca. Plattsburgh looking for revenge as young Cortland team upset veteran Card team last spring in Plattsburgh. Tonight it's the younger Cardinals taking on a veteran Cortland team in their house. Can you say karma? My head says Red Dragons 68-62, but I'm going with my heart and taking the Cards 67-64.
 

Fredonia St  at  New Paltz St  8 PM

Undefeated Fredonia (whaaaat) brings their 5-0 record into Hawk Center and the oddsmaker have made them a 9 point favorite. They must know something I don't because I think that's too high. Blue Devils lofty record has come against 5 teams, none of which have a winning record and have combined for a 4-25 slate. Hawks have played 4 teams, none of which have a losing record and have combined for a 10-9 log. I'll go against the odds and say that Fredonia drops off the undefeated list tonight as the Hawks win a tight one 72-70.
 

Potsdam St  at Oswego St  8 PM

Lakers look to take up where they left off last year as they posted a 17-1 regular season mark (18-2 including playoffs). Hard to figure that a young Potsdam team can improve enough to knock off this veteran team. The point spread has the Lakers favored by 12 but they have struggled in all their games so far (Cobleskill blowout doesn't count ;D) winning 2 by 3 points and losing to SLU by 4. Oswego players may need some time to adjust to their new head coach. I think the Bears might keep it closer.  It depends on which Potsdam team shows up though. The one that beat Utica College on the road or the one that got handled by Salem St. and Clarkson. Bears will have trouble matching up with the Laker's All American (who won't?) as Burridge and company will be too much. Lakers win but it won't be easy (I hope)  70-63.
   

Geneseo  vs  Rochester Tech @ St John Fisher  6 PM

The Blue Knights hope to get off the schnied and avoid a sweep of teams named Rochester. They once again come in as underdogs as the line has RIT favored by 3. Their 0-4 record isn't as bad as it looks when you consider that 3 of those losses were to teams with a combined record of 15-1. RIT on the other hand has a 2-1 record but their 2 wins have been over teams that have yet to win a game and have a combined 0-12 record. Their loss was to a decent Nazareth team 72-66. I'm going with the Blue Knights on this one 69-66.


Brockport  vs  Hobart @ RIT's Clark Gym  6 PM

Brockport finally broke into the win column Wednesday night but they face a much tougher task tonight as they take on an undefeated Hobart team that has already trounced both Ithaca and St. John Fisher by 25 points. Statesmen are looking to make a statement this year as they missed out on the NCAA tourney last year when Hamilton upset them is the conference playoffs and they had to settle for the ECACs. Oddsmakers have made Hobart an 18 pt favorite. The Statesmen enter this game with 4 guys averaging double figures, led by their all conference forward Matt Pebole (16.3 ppg, 9.3 rpg). The Golden Eagles counter with 5 guys averaging double digits led by their all conference forward Kyheem Green (18.5 ppg, 12.5 ppg). The one common opponent is St. John Fisher and Brockport lost to them 82-81. That's tough to overlook. I hope I'm wrong on this one but I have to go with Hobart 83-77



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
Brockport scores with 3 seconds left to go up 70-69 on Hobart. Statesmen coach Mike Neer calls timeout and draws up an inbounds play that results in a long pass to Matt Pebole who scores a layup at the buzzer and sends the Golden Eagles to a crushing defeat, 71-70.

No live stats available as sidearm was showing a game between RIT and Western Ontario that took place on Nov. 15th. Tried accessing live stats from RIT's website as well as Brockport's and Hobart's. Same page kept coming up. Couldn't pull in the Brockport radio feed until about 2 minutes after the game was over. Caught a quick interview with Pebole and a short wrap-up decribing the winning basket.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2011, 08:17:29 PM

Geneseo gets first win with 81-67 knockout of RIT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 08:28:01 PM
Geneseo St. lays it on RIT as they open up a 17 point halftime lead 44-27 then coast to a 81-67 win. Ryan Riefenhauser led 3 guys in double digits with 19 pts (7x11 fg, 5x8 ft) and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. Abe Miller added 16 pts (7x9 fg, 2x6 ft) and 5 boards. James McKenna added 13 pts (5x7 fg. 3x3 3's).
RIT led 1-0 and 3-2 but the Blue Knights scored 5 baskets in a row and it was quickly 13-3 with a little over 4 minutes into the period. They continued to expand their lead in the 2nd half and led by 23  with 17:34 to go. For the rest up the half they maintained a 20 point margin until the last several minutes when the Tigers closed to 14 with a couple of buckets in the final seconds.

Blue Knights shot 30x55 from the field (55%), 8x19 from 3 point land (42%) and 13x24 from the line (54%). They won the boards 30-26 and had 17 turnovers to 21 for the Tigers. RIT had 14 guys break into the scoring column but no one hit double digits. Brenden Harder, Nick Dobson and Jameel Balenton all had 8 pts for the Tigers. Live stats showing 26 total boards for the Tigers but individual stats only add up to 16 and they show their leading rebounder Harder with 0 boards.  Tigers shot 20x42 from the field (48%), 3x7 3's (43%) and 24x32 ft (75%).

Geneseo finally gets that elusive 1st win as they now are 1-4. They will face off against the winner of the St. John Fisher/Roberts Wesleyan game at 3 PM on Saturday afternoon at Roberts Wesleyan College.

Brockport will take on the loser of the Nazareth/Univ. of Rochester game at 3 PM on Sat. at RIT

edit at 8:51 to change who Geneseo and Brockport  will face on Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2011, 08:28:54 PM
Oswego Livestats died in the first half of the women's game, and still DOA halfway through the men's game.

Lakers lead Potsdam 20-13 in late stages of first half

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 08:39:31 PM
I'm not having any trouble getting the video feed bear. It's 32-19  with 1:40 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 08:41:58 PM
Plattsburgh trailing Cortland  32-28 at the break in a back and forth 1st half.

Lakers up 35-19 over the Bears at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2011, 08:42:26 PM


New Paltz by 34-28 at half

Buff St. by one late in the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
Hockey score Oswego and Plattsburgh are tied at 2-2 in the 2nd period at Plattsburgh. Go Cards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2011, 08:58:24 PM

Oneonta hanging tough with Buff St. Bengals 39-36 through 20'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 09:09:19 PM
Cortland leading Plattsburgh 48-44 with 9:51 to go.

New Paltz up 53-36 with 9:56 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 09:35:55 PM
Cortland tops Plattsburgh 75-66.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2011, 09:42:28 PM

Cortland sees eight point lead shrink to four before J. Winter 3-pter at 6' mark propels RDragons stretch play. Winter finishes with 21 pts with big second half. Closes 7x11fg, 6x6ft. B. Manning off the bench for 16 pts(7x9fg, 2x2 3s), 8 rebs. D. Sternkopf 9 rebs. Corts 27x55fg, 5x17 3s, 16x19ft. Plattsburgh's S. Fields 17 pts(7x13fg); J. Perez 12 pts; G. Tibbs 7 rebs. Cards just 16x30ft and 23x59fg, 4x18 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 09:42:38 PM
jdex did you get a final on the New Paltz game? Live stats quit working with 1:06 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 09:46:02 PM
Bengals and Oneonta still duking it out as Bengals up 77-71 with 3: 20 to play. Jake Simmons with 27 so far 5x7 from 3 point land.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 10:00:17 PM
Oswego up by 20 over Potsdam sees the lead shrink to 10  but holds off the Bears 69-54.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2011, 10:01:54 PM

Buffalo St. holds on at Oneonta for 80-76 win
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2011, 10:03:27 PM

Last we saw was NP 75, Fredonia 58 ......closing ticks ......H. Wichard 27 pts(10x15fg), 11 rebs. Devils lose first in six tries.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
Buffalo State up by 6 77-71  with 3:28 to go but Red Dragons close to with in 1 on C Boynden drive and K. Donahue triple with 29 ticks left. Bengals A. Hamer hits 2 free throws and Oneonta misses a shot grabs the board anfd misses a 3 point attempt. Justin mitchell rebounds for Buff St is fouled and makes 1of 2 with 3 seconds left and the Bengals win it 80-76.

That big noise you just heard was Bengalsrule exhaling deeply. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
 Thanks jdex. I just got a final off the New Paltz web site and you are correct it was 75-58.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2011, 10:16:17 PM

Oneonta led Buffs 59-58 at 11:14. Free throw knotted it and J. Simmons sank trey at 10:19. BS led the rest of the way by slim margins. By 77-71 at 3:28. C. Boyden two big buckets for OSt and K. Donahue 3-pointer at 0:29 made it 77-76. Simmons 27 pts(9x14fg, 5x7 3s), 5 rebs, 4 stls; J. Mitchell 17 pts, 5 stls; A. Nagaya 10 pts, 12 rebs. BS 30x60fg, 6x13 3s, 14x23ft. Oneonta gets 19 pts(5x6 3s) from Donahue. N. Sarchioto 17 pts; Boyden 16 pts; D. Lee 12 pts; F. Kelly 10 pts with 6 assts, 8 trnvrs. Dragons 30x61fg, 7x15 3s, 9x17ft and outboard Bengals 39-34. OSt 24 turnovers, BS 20
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2011, 10:46:52 PM
Buffalo State got way more than they bargained for against Oneonta tonight. Don't think they expected to get a down to the wire nailbiter. Red Dragons jumped out to a 7-0 lead and Bengals came right back to tie it at 7. Neither team could gain much of an advantage as there were 5 ties and 4 lead changes leading up to a Bengals 39-36 halftime edge. Oneonta opened the 2nd with 2 buckets in 20 seconds to regain the lead and the 2 teams just traded leads from that point on. There were 7 more lead changes and 6 ties leading up to the final 3 minutes when the Bengal's got their 6 point lead.

Bengal's Jake Simmons led all scorers with 27 pts 9x14 fg, 5x7 3's, 4x4 ft). He also had 5 rebounds 4 steals and 2 blocked shots. Justin Mitchell had 17 points (6x10 fg, 5x8 ft) with 5 boards and 5 steals. Ahmed Nagaya had a double-double of 10 pts (5x11 fg, 0x1 ft) and 12 rebounds (7 def, 5 off). Bengals were 30x60 fg (50%) 6x11 3's (54.5%), 14x23 ft (60.9%). They were beat off the boards by Oneonta 39-34 but the Red Dragons had 24 turnovers to 20 for Buffalo St.

Oneonta placed 4 players in double figures led by Kevin Donahue with 19 (7x11 fg, 5x6 3's, 0x1 ft). Nick Sarchioto had 17 pts (6x9 fg, 0x1 3's, 5x7 ft) with 6 rebounds and 3 steals. Dan Lee added 12 pts and 4 boards, while Frankie Kelly had 10. Red Dragons shot 30x61 (49.2 %) from the field, almost identical to the Bengals. They were 7x15 from behind the arc (46'7%) and 9x17 from the line (52.9%).

Bengals move to 4-0 and take on New Paltz tomorrow afternoon at 4 PM in Hawk Center.

Oneonta falls to 1-4 and will host  Fredonia St. tomorrow at 4 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 03:56:33 PM
Short on time today, will have to make these quick picks.

Plattsburgh at Oswego 4 PM         
Pointspread has Lakers favored by 7 which is right where it should be. Cardinals keep it close but fall 76-70.

Buffalo St at New Paltz  4 PM
Always a high scoring game when these two get together pointspread has Bengals favored by 13. I Think the Hawks will keep it in single digits. Bengals win 88-79.

Potsdam at Cortland   4 PM
Red Dragons looking for the North Country sweep and after watching the Bears yesterday I think they get it. Oddsmakers have installed Cortland as a 10 point favorite and I'll run with that. Cortland wins 77-68.

Frerdonia at Oneonta 4 PM
Tough game to pick. Pointspread has Oneonta favored by 3. If Red Dragons play like they did against Buff St they'll win. I'm thinking they will so they're my pick 71-67.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2011, 05:11:57 PM

Brockport bows to Rochester 83-70

Geneseo falls to SJF 77-54

Cortland pulling away from 32-25 halftime lead vs. Potsdam

Oswego narrowly over Plattsburgh early in second half

Fredonia handsome lead vs. Oneonta in second period

Buffalo St. and New Paltz 38-38 at half

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 05:16:45 PM
Updates:

Plattsburgh leads Oswego 52-50   with 10 minutes to go in the game.

Fredonia putting it to Oneonta 55-43 with 10 minutes to go.

Buffalo State up 40-39 2nd half just under way.

Cortland all over Potsdam 53-34 with 8:30 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 05:31:18 PM
Cortland up 57-38 with 2:13 to gp.

Buffalo St ahead 52-46 with 14:22 left.

Fredonia up 68-58 with 2:03 left to play

Plattsburgh up 59-57 with 5 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 05:36:16 PM
Fredonia St defeats Oneonta 72-61.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 05:39:36 PM
Cortland wins easily over Potsdam 63-42.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2011, 05:40:59 PM
Cortland romps over Potsdam 63-42, unloading the bench for the first time. Builds on 32-25 halftime margin quickly in final stanza. Corts 52 percent from the field despite 7x24 3s. Bears paltry 13x48fg, 10x22ft. RDragons J. Winter 13 pts(5x10fg, 3x6 3s), 6 assts; J. Smith 12 pts(5x10fg, 2x7 3s); M. Brown 7 pts, 6 reb. Bear C. Pierce 10 pts(3x12fg), 6 rebs. Corts 5-1, Pdam 2-4

Brockport in a 42-37 halftime hole vs. UR, but take 61-59 lead with 10:16 to play on G. Williams 3-pter. By 4:57 UR ahead 72-66, stretch to nine at 4:04 and 11 at 3:38. Eagles no closer. G. Williams 22 pts(7x14fg, 6x13 3s), 5 rebs in 29'; D. Jackson 16 pts; J. Ivy 11 pts; K. Green 11 pts, 2 rebs, 4pf in 19'. Bport 1-5, UR 6-2. Jacket J. DiBartolomeo 28 pts(5x9 3s). UR 13x26 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 05:42:42 PM
Buffalo St. with an 11 point lead 65-54 with 9:14 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 05:48:51 PM
Oswego State pulls away in the final 2 minutes and downs Plattsburgh 70-61. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2011, 05:52:01 PM

Fredonia has it easy in win over Oneonta. Runs to 41-28 lead at the hal. D. Kashmer 14 pts(5x8fg); J. Bryant 14 pts, 5 rebs; L. Smith 13 pts, 5 rebs. Devils 26x49fg and 34-24 reb separation. OSt D. Lee 18 pts, 5 assts, 5 rebs; K. Donahue 13 pts; C. Boyden 12 pts. Dragons 22x53fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 06:24:13 PM
Final score of Oswego-Plattsburgh game not indicative of how close this game was. Plattsburgh had the lead 59-57 after a 3 pointer by Josh Bruno with 4:55 to play but young Cardinals come up empty on their next 4 possessions as they miss three straight shots and then turn it over. Oswego goes up by 4 at 63-59 and the dagger came after Cardinals with good defensive pressure force the Lakers into a bad pass late in the shot clock. Ball headed out of bounds is saved by Lakers on a blind throwback that goes right into the hands of Chad Burridge who takes several huge steps and jams the ball down and is fouled on a questionable blocking foul that could have went either way. Plattsburgh bench is T'd up and Lakers hit 2 of 3 foul shots to boost the lead to 67-59 with 35 seconds left. Foul shots on both sides make the final 70-61.

Burridge was huge in the final 5 minutes as the Cards couldn't find a way to contain him. He led all scorers with 22 points (7x11 fg, 1x1 3's, 7x13 ft) and finished with a double-double as he grabbed 13 rebounds. Hayden Ward was close behind with 17 pts (6x15 fg, 1x4 3's, 4x6 ft) and 8 boards. Sean Michele also had double figures with 14 pts (4x6 fg, 4x5 3's, 2x2 ft) and 5 assists. Lakers were beat off the boards by the Cards 42-34 but only had 7 turnovers to 12 for Plattsburgh. Oswego shot 23x51 from the field (45%), 7x16 from the arc (44%) and 17x27 from the line (63%)  Oswego improves to 5-1 overall for the season, 2-0 in the conference. They return to action on Tuesday Dec 6th at Brockport with an 8 PM start.

Plattsburgh also had 3 players with double figures led by senior Josh Bruno with 13 pts (5x10 fg, 3x5 3's, 0x2 ft). John Perez continued his stellar play with a double-double of 12 pts (5x10 fg, 2x6 ft) and 11 rebounds. Frosh Shamoy McIntosh added 10 pts (3x9 fg, 3x6 3's, 1x2 ft) and 4 boards. Cardinals, still learning how to close out games, will feel like they let one get away here. Only scoring 2 points ( that came on 2 free throws with 27 seconds left) in the final 5 minutes of play will certainly make you a loser every time out. In fairness to the Cards there were 3 blocking fouls called in those five minutes that were questionable and could have gone either way. Unfortunately they all went against Plattsburgh and after the 3rd call with the game out of reach the coaching staff expressed their displeasure.  Cardinals fall to 2-4 overall, 0-2 in the YAC. Plattsburgh's next game is home against New Paltz with the new starting time of 6 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 06:26:14 PM
Buffalo St pulls away from New Paltz and wins 89-83. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2011, 07:12:15 PM
The Bengals certainly got their money's worth this weekend as both games were probably closer than they anticipated. New Paltz like Oneonta the day before refused to fold against the high powered offense that the Bengals bring to the gym. After jumping out to a 14-7 lead the Hawks found themselves trailing 20-14 as the Bengals went on a 13-0 run. They fought back to tie it at 28 with 6:38 left in the half and after falling behind by 6 again they managed to forge a 38-38 tie at the break. Three times in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd period they trailed by 9 points and each time they would close the gap but with 9:15 to play the Bengals opened up their largest lead at 65-54. Several more times Buffalo would find themselves with that advantage, and each time the Hawks would respond closing to a one possession game at 74-71 with 6:20 to go. Buffalo St went up by 11 one last time at 86-75 with 2:19 on the clock. The Hawks got it to 86-81 with 38 seconds left but the Bengals hit their foul shots to make the final 89-83.

Justin Mitchell and Jake Simmons were the big guns for the Bengals. Mitchell finished with 23 pts (10x24 fg, 0x1 3's, 3x4 ft) and 7 rebounds. Simmons had 21 pts (7x15 fg, 2x6 3's, 5x7 ft) and 5 steals. Ahmed Nagaya also had a big night as he added a double-double of 15 pts (6X13 fg, 3x6 ft) and 14 rebounds (7 off.& 7 def.). Norman Simmons had a solid game with 9 pts (3x6 fg, 0x1 3's, 3x4 ft), 7 rebounds, 5 assists and a blocked shot. Bengals shot 32x80 from the field (40%), but only 2x12 from 3 point land (16.7%). They were 23x35 from the line (65.7%) They had 49 rebounds to 45 for the Hawks and committed 14 TO's to 21 for New Paltz.

Bengals are off until next Friday Dec. 9th when they will host Cortland State at 8 PM. They remain undefeated at 5-0 overall, 2-0 in the YAC.

Hawks were led by Nick Taldi who ended up as the game's high scorer with 25 points (7x16 fg, 5x9 3's, 6x7 ft). Harris Wichard hit the nets for 21 (6x16 fg, 2x6 3's, 7x9 ft) with 6 boards and 5 assists. Matt Devine tossed in 15 (4x13 fg, 0x3 3's, 7x9 ft) and managed a double-double with 11 rebounds. Alan Siergiej added 9 pts and 6 boards. New Paltz shot 25x66 fg (37.9%), 8x25 3's (32%) and 25x31 ft (80.6%). The refs didn't keep their whistles in their pockets as the two teams were called for 51 fouls in the game.

New Paltz travels north to take on the Cardinals next Tuesday Dec. 6th at 6 PM. Ultimately this upcoming game will have a big impact on where these 2 teams will finish in the standings as they both figure to be in the 5th through 8th spots as I see it. New Paltz has a leg up on the Cards as they are 1-1 in conference play, 3-3 overall.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2011, 08:20:43 PM

Geneseo led Fisher with five minutes to go in the first half, fell behind 30-24 at intermission and faded quickly over the second frame. Knights 20x60fg, 11x16ft where SFJ went 24x39 and 25x47 from the field. Gens R. Riefenhauser 11 pts(5x9fg) in 22'; J. McKenna 10 pts(3x11fg) in 23'. Fisher with J. Gettings 20 pts, J. Norsen 16 pts and 41-33 reb difference
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 04, 2011, 07:22:32 AM
After another tough weekend for my Bears, I would like to state that the Bears will not be plus 500 team again this year (my prediction 10-15 and miss the SUNYAC tournament).  This will make it 6 straight years of losing basketball teams.  Since Dobbs became coach he has not recruited a winning team, the players on the winning teams were already there.  Its time for a change in leadership or is Potsdam to be no longer relevant.  I guess that this is the case when one delivers losing results.  I wonder how much it would cost to have Tim Welsh coach for a year or two. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2011, 11:59:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
That big noise you just heard was Bengalsrule exhaling deeply. ;D

  Damn magicman. You heard that all the way in Plattsburgh :o ? . That Oneonta/New Paltz trip was tough on the young BENGALS. Clearly one of the biggest problems vs. the Red Dragons was the play of guard/capt. Norman Simmons. His stats line for the night was 0 points, 1 assist and 5 turnovers. Not a surefire prescription for getting your first Yac roadwin. Fortunatly "Ant" Hamer came off the bench and helped stabilize a shaky backcourt.

  Eyewitness accounts also talked about a situation at Oneonta where the official score keeper TWICE attempted to take points off the board for Buffalo State. The 2nd attempt came at the 13 min mark of the 2nd half when the score mysteriously went from tied at 54 -54 to Oneonta 54 - Buff State 53 during a deadball WITHOUT the scorekeeper even conferring with the ref until the BENGAL staff noticed the change. I am also told that the officials (after they fixed the score and returned it back to 54 up) suggested to Coach Ansari that he put one of his coaches at the table to "assist" the Oneonta scorekeeper in case she had any more memory lapse(s). Buff State does not take a score keeper with them on road trips, (but that may soon change ???). A BENGAL  coach gladly volunteered to sit at the scorers table and help the Oneonta senior till games end.

    As bad as "knockdown" Norm was against Oneonta, he was that good the next night against New Paltz. 0 turnovers, 5 assists, 9 points and 1 block. Thats the kind of game that the BENGAL faithful have come to expect from their captain. I truly believe that Norm will be a Yac 1st teamer when all is said and done. Ahmed Nagaya may soon have folks saying "Glenroy who" ( in reference to former Bengal center Glenroy Carr). Ahmed's back to back "double/double(s)" over the weekend  - 12 rebs/10 pts vs Oneonta and 14 rebs/15 pts vs New Paltz was just what the Dr. ordered for a case of the "roadtrip blues".

   Jake Simmons was....Jake Simmons. His 3 game total for this past week (including Tuesday night vs. NAIA D-2 Houghton College).... 25 pts per game on 25/49 shooting (51%), 12/13 from the free throw line, 10 steals and 9 boards. I gotta believe that he makes the D3hoops team of the week (and yes I'm biased).

With Cortland and Oswego coming to the ARENA, this weekend many BENGAL faithful can only hope that when the smoke clears there will be only 1 undefeated team still standing in SUNYAC. I'm betting on the Orange/Black. I wouldn't miss these 2 games for the world. I wonder if JDEX or Ethelred the Ready will come and visit the wonderful city of Buffalo this weekend? It's beautiful this time of year! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2011, 04:52:10 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2011, 11:59:25 PM
I wonder if JDEX or Ethelred the Ready will come and visit the wonderful city of Buffalo this weekend? It's beautiful this time of year! ;)

I'm sure that both teams will bring it when they visit Buffalo this weekend. But no matter how good those games are/will be, I don't think jdex will hop a plane and fly up from Florida. However he and I both hope that the video, audio, and live stats links that are listed under "details" on the schedule page, aren't just a figment of someone's imagination. ??? Please tell me that they are correct and that I'll be able to watch both games this weekend. 8-)  And tell the SID to correct that write up on the front page of the Buffalo State website. Jake didn't score 25 points against New Paltz, he only had 21. :o

You've got to quit drinking the orange kool-aid. ;D Or at least drink it through a straw instead of chugging it right down.  No way Norman Simmons makes first team YAC. May get 3rd team if he's lucky and Buffalo St. wins the YAC championship. Why? Because Simmons and Mitchell will be all conference  and possibly Nagaya as well. That only leaves 3rd team at best for Norman. Too many good teams and players this year for one team to hog all the glory. Norman's a solid player but he won't have the gaudy stats that a 1st teamer needs.   

And finally since we're speaking of hoops, Bengalsrule Senior must have had you jumping through them, as I'm still waiting for that "I'll  call you right back" phone call. ???         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 07:11:02 AM
New Top 25 poll out early Tuesday morning. Middlebury  takes over the top spot followed by Amherst. No surprises there after Augie lost last week. Just may be a NESCAC team on top for a while.

Buffalo State went 3-0 for the week, improved to 5-0 overall, and inched up several spots to #14 while gaining 15 points in the process. They are now the top ranked East region team in the poll. Bengals finally got tested last week after 3 blowout victories against lesser competition. Problem is they were tested by 2 teams not expected to challenge for the conference crown. Still they came through in the clutch, on the road, in the YAC.  Not always easy to do. Competition moves up another notch this week but the Bengals are home and will be in their comfort zone.

Oswego State despite a 2-0 week received less votes than last week (42 down to 29) but moved up a spot from 32nd to 31st. The Lakers have reeled off 5 in a row after they got their feet wet in a season opening upset at the hands of SLU. Coach Jason Leone and the players seem to have settled in as the Lakers looked more like the 27-3 squad from last year in their past 3 games. 

Rochester, 6-2 after their 2nd loss to Nazareth in 11 days, was the biggest loser of the week, shedding 181 pts and falling from 12th down to 24th. One of my favorite coaches told me several days after the first loss to Naz on Nov 22nd that the Yellowjackets just don't seem to match up well with the Golden Flyers. Sure enough a week later they proved him right.

Hobart, on the strength of their Wendy's Classic Championship, where they beat St John Fisher, Brockport, (on the almost miraculous length of the court in bounds play with 2 seconds left ) and Nazareth in that order, moved from a single point last week to 34 points this week and is sitting just outside the Top 25 in the 29th spot. Probably where some of Oswego's points went. Statesmen are now 6-0.

Hartwick 7-0, still got a mention but lost points going from 12 down to 4, and landed in 47th place. The fact that their last 3 games have been against teams with a combined 3-14 record probably doesn't impress the voters much. 

Meanwhile undefeated Hamilton at 8-0 brought up the rear of the ORV category and got their first mention of the year with 2 points. The Continentals suffer the same problems as Hartwick. Gaudy record so far but no real signature wins. Really don't think they'll be getting votes for very long, especially after they face the NESCAC big 3, in a 10 day span in mid-January. I see them at best a 16-9 team. 

Some huge games this week both in and out of conference play that will have a big impact on the pecking order for next week's poll

Perhaps the biggest game of the week is The Buffalo St.-Oswego St. matchup. But before the Lakers can think about facing the Bengals they have to meet the team who handed them their last loss in the conference, Brockport State. The Lakers are on the road for 3 YAC games this week, starting with a Tuesday night trip to Brockport for an 8 PM tip off. The Golden Eagles have been a bit of a disappointment so far this season but the basketball gods just haven't given them a break. I'll bet they are the best 1-5 team in all of D3. Oswego then gets a breather as they travel to Fredonia for a Friday night 8 PM game. Just don't tell the Blue Devils that. Starting out 6-1 has probably got these guys thinking they can play with anyone and if the Lakers are looking ahead to that Saturday afternoon game with Buffalo St. they might find a Blue Devil pitchfork where don't want to. The Bengals meanwhile have the luxury of being the only SUNYAC team that doesn't have a Tuesday night game. They do have a tough game against Cortland State on Friday night at 8:00  PM and like Oswego they don't want to be caught looking ahead because the Red Dragon shooters can bury you in a hurry as Potdam and Plattsburgh found out last weekend. The Lakers would like nothing better than to come out of Buffalo with the SUNYAC lead over their main threat and a possible re-entry into the Top 25 poll at the Bengals expense. Oswego has a game with Cazenovia on December 16th. They are then off until January 3rd when they travel to Texas for a little R&R and take on Division 1 Texas-Pan American. Buff St. really won't have any extended break as they are in the D.C. area for a holiday tournament. That will work to their benefit if they continue to be undefeated as the voters will see results for them while teams right above them may be idle. 
   
Hobart's next game will be host to Rochester on Saturday Dec 10th at 4 PM but before the Yellowjackets can focus on that contest, Hamilton will invade the Palestra and put their undefeated record on the line Wednesday night at 7:30 PM.  The Rochester game is Hobart's last one before the Christmas break. The Yellowjackets will also be off until after the New Year. Hobart would like to crack the Top 25 and a win over Rochester would probably do it for them. U of R  fighting to stay in the poll as 1 more loss this early in the year will certainly drop them into the ORV category or lower. Hamilton will hope to come away with a noteworthy victory.

               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2011, 12:39:43 PM
Part of the Naz's matchup advantage over Rochester is ex-Potsdam Bear Greg Lothridge.  Lothridge is 6-11 with LONG arms.  He had 8 blocks in the two games vs. Rochester.  He has to be protected in a zone, as he's not someone who can chase a wing, but he can be a shot alterer in the middle.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
Everybody in the YAC hitting the hardwood tonight except for Buffalo State.

New Paltz at Plattsburgh  6 PM

Oneonta at Potsdam 6 PM

Fredonia at  Division I  Youngstown St  7:45 PM

Oswego  at Brockport   8 PM

Cortland at Geneseo  8 Pm

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
Everybody in the YAC hitting the hardwood tonight except for Buffalo State.

New Paltz at Plattsburgh  6 PM

Oneonta at Potsdam 6 PM

Fredonia at  Division I  Youngstown St  7:45 PM

Oswego  at Brockport   8 PM

Cortland at Geneseo  8 Pm

Since magicman and Coach Curle are probably going over the gameplan for tonites game ..I thought that I'd take a stab at predictions.

Cards over N. Paltz by 7
Oneonta beats Potsdam in Ot by 3
Cortland crushes Geneseo by 17
Brockport upsets Oswego by 5

No line on the Fredonia/Youngstown State game when I last checked the Mirage Sportsbook :D !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 05:55:52 PM
Let's see what happens tonight. Season's record so far is 19-5 (76%).

New Paltz at Plattsburgh  6 PM

New early starting time for these single trip games. Trying to get the guys home around midnight to 1 AM instead of 3 in the morning. Plattsburgh women went to New Paltz instead of normal double header in the same location. Seems like a smart move. Same scheduling also applies to Cards travel partner Potsdam. Tonight's game is a must win for the young Cards to avoid falling to the bottom of the standings. New Paltz looking to get a leg up on an eventual home playoff game. Pointspread has the Cardinals favored by 3 and I feel that's a fair margin. Plattsburgh wins a tight one 76-73.


Oneonta at Potsdam 6 PM

Bears also need to turn things around after 2 double digit losses last weekend. Potsdam dug big holes by halftime and never mounted much of a comeback. Competition a little easier tonight but Bears have got to play better in all phases of the game. Red Dragons played Buffalo tough but struggled against Fredonia. Bears are home dogs as Oneonta is favored by 3.5. I'll take the Bears to spring a mild upset 67-65.


Fredonia at  Division I  Youngstown St  7:45 PM

No line on this game but if I was setting the odds I'd have Yougstown State favored by 23. I'm thinking they win each half by about 12 making it 82-58 Penguins.


Oswego  at Brockport   8 PM

The most anticipated contest of the evening as these 2 teams will duke it out all night long. Oswego is looking more and more like last years regular season champs after some early season adjustments. Oddsmakers have installed the Lakers as 5 point favorites. Brockport trying to make it 2 in row over Burridge and company. Golden Eagles not playing up to their potential and are coming off a 4th place finish in the Wendy's Classic.  Tough to open up conference play against one of the best teams in the state. I think the Lakers get some payback here. 72-68


Cortland at Geneseo  8 PM

Cortland comes into this contest tied with the 2 favorites for the early season lead. With Buffalo meeting Oswego on Saturday they can still be assured of at least 2nd place even if they lose to the Bengals on Friday night. Geneseo is coming off a 6th place finish in the Wendy's Classic last weekend and has struggled all year. Point spread has the Red Dragons favored by 9. Geneseo keeps it a little closer than that. 73-66. I did say little closer. ;D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 05:58:34 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
Everybody in the YAC hitting the hardwood tonight except for Buffalo State.

New Paltz at Plattsburgh  6 PM

Oneonta at Potsdam 6 PM

Fredonia at  Division I  Youngstown St  7:45 PM

Oswego  at Brockport   8 PM

Cortland at Geneseo  8 Pm

Since magicman and Coach Curle are probably going over the gameplan for tonites game ..I thought that I'd take a stab at predictions.

Cards over N. Paltz by 7
Oneonta beats Potsdam in Ot by 3
Cortland crushes Geneseo by 17
Brockport upsets Oswego by 5

No line on the Fredonia/Youngstown State game when I last checked the Mirage Sportsbook :D !

Unfortunately magicman cannot attend tonight's game as mrs magicman is severely under the weather. He's on his way home right after this post to sit up with her. Can you say live stats?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
Plattsburgh over New Paltz 86-72 led by Shavar Fields 27 points. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 08:00:44 PM
Potsdam and Oneonta locked up in overtime battle. Oneonta's Dan Lee hits 1 of 2 free throws with 12 seconds left tottie game in regulation. Bears with chance to win at buzzer but off the mark. Potsdam grabs advantage in OT and is never caught. Bears win 72-68.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 09:38:50 PM
Cortland stays undefeated in conference play with a 64-51 decision over Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
Cortland over Geneseo 64-51. Widest margin's the final. Geneseo pulls into 45-45 knot with 10 minutes left on conventional J. Jones three-pter. John Connolly regains CSt edge followed by B. Manning and J. Winter points. It's 56-47 at 2:28. Cortland ahead 29-21 at intermission on Winter trey at 0:09. Gens lead only in game's opening minute. Winter finishes with 15 pts(5x10fg), 5 assts; Manning 15 pts(5x10fg), 9 rebs; D. Sternkopf 11 pts, 9 rebs. RDragons 25x51fg, 4x18 3s, 10x15ft. Knights M. Hoy 13 pts(5x9fg), 3 assts; R. Riefenhauser 8 pts, 9 rebs. Gens 19x56fg, 10x22ft and with 38-35 reb control
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2011, 09:46:51 PM

Fredonia tumbles to Youngstown 69-35
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2011, 09:48:45 PM

Oswego 80, Brockport 65
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 10:09:07 PM
Plattsburgh's Shavar Fields had himself quite a 1st half tonight against New Paltz. After 11 minutes had gone by in the game the Cardinals led the Hawks 22-19. Fields had 21 of those points as he hit his first 9 shots (1 three pointer) and his only 2 free throws. Teams traded baskets and the lead throughout the 1st 10 minutes of play. After New Paltz took a 17-15 lead Fields hit his 7th and 8th baskets, to give the Cards a 20-17 edge and the Hawks never got closer than 4 points after that. After 2 New Paltz free throws he hit his 9th bucket that ignited an 18-6 spurt  that gave th Cards a 38-25 advantage. Hawks Matt Devine closed the gap with 2 triples in the final 27 seconds of the period and New Paltz was only down 42-36 at the half. Fields finished the period with 23 points.
Hawks Harris Wichard scores the 1st basket of the 2nd half to narrow the deficit to 4 pts. Plattsburgh goes on a 13-2 run over the next 4 minutes to make it 55-40 and though the Hawks would fight back they could never get it closer than a 6 point deficit. Their last push came with 5:40 left to play and the score 68-61. Cards then put the game out of reach with a 16-4 burst to open up their biggest lead of the night 84-65.

Fields led the Cardinals with 27 pts (11x18 fg, 1x3 3's, 4x7 ft) and shared game high scoring honors with Devine. Josh Bruno was next with 16 pts (3x9 fg, 1x3 3's, 9x13 ft) and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. Anthony Baker had 11 pts (5x10 fg, 1x1 3's) 6 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals. John Perez did manage a double-double with 10 points (4x13 fg, 2x3 ft) and 12 big boards, with 8 of them coming off the offensive glass. Cards shot 30x77 fg ( 39%), 5x13 3's (38.5%), and 21x32 ft (65.6 %). Plattsburgh dominated the glass 43-32 and only suffered 6 TO's to 15 for the Hawks.

New Paltz got 27 points from Matt Devine (8x15 fg, 4x7 3's, 7x8 ft) along with 7 rebounds. Sr. guard Harris Wichard added 20 pts (8x18 fg, 1x6 3's, 3x4 ft) and a team high 8 rebounds. Hawks shot 24x59 (40.7%) from the field, 7x24 3's (29.2%) and 17x21 ft (81%).

Cards improve to 3-4 overall (1-2 conf) and will host Geneseo on Friday and Brockport on Sat.

Hawks fall to 3-4 (1-2 conf) and will host Montclair St on Thursday evening and Oneonta on Sat at 4 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 10:13:04 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
Since magicman and Coach Curle are probably going over the gameplan for tonites game ..I thought that I'd take a stab at predictions.

Cards over N. Paltz by 7
Oneonta beats Potsdam in Ot by 3
Cortland crushes Geneseo by 17
Brockport upsets Oswego by 5

No line on the Fredonia/Youngstown State game when I last checked the Mirage Sportsbook :D !

Wow this predicting is tough. Went 2 of 4 although correctly predicted an Red Dragon-Bears Ot game  ;D (even though the results weren't right >:( . ) Gotta get to the Mirage Sportsbook in Vegas, before Friday, for Magicmans free tutorial on "how to pick the winners".

P.s. Hope Mrs. Magicman is feeling better! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 10:29:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2011, 04:52:10 AM
And tell the SID to correct that write up on the front page of the Buffalo State website. Jake didn't score 25 points against New Paltz, he only had 21. :o

You've got to quit drinking the orange kool-aid. ;D Or at least drink it through a straw instead of chugging it right down.  No way Norman Simmons makes first team YAC. May get 3rd team if he's lucky and Buffalo St. wins the YAC championship. Why? Because Simmons and Mitchell will be all conference  and possibly Nagaya as well. That only leaves 3rd team at best for Norman. Too many good teams and players this year for one team to hog all the glory. Norman's a solid player but he won't have the gaudy stats that a 1st teamer needs.   

Getting ready to hit the sack after 1 more cup of "Orange-Aid". We will revisit the "Norm Simmons - All Yac" conversation around ... Jan 21st? By then you should need no more convincing! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2011, 11:58:15 PM
Expected Mr. Burridge to make a statement tonight. Didn't expect it to be 10 pages long. I mean c'mon, 40 points! 8-) Apparently an inside move for a bucket followed by a dunk in the first 45 seconds scared the beejesus out of Port's bigs because the play by play says Chad Burridge made layup or Chad Burridge made dunk so many times I lost count. (Actually 10) One time he must have moved so fast, Port and the stat guys didn't even see him score, so they just wrote down Chad Burridge and credited him with 2 more points. (14:02 of the first half). When he wasn't dunking or driving he'd just fire one up from beyond the arc, or get hacked and make the free throws. (8x10)

Brockport was never in this game, falling behind by double digits 6 minutes into the first half. They got it from a 16 pt deficit down to 7 a couple of times but a Laker push had them back up by 14 at the break. Second verse, same as the first, only worse. Laker lead fluctuated between 16 and 22 the entire 2nd period.
Burridge's 40 pts came on 15x26 fg, 2x3 3's 8x10 ft. Oh, did I mention the 16 rebounds of which 9 were on the offensive end. I guess a bunch of those 11 missed shots he had ended up back in his hands for putbacks, which might account for those 16 second chance points. Brockport's bench outscored Oswego's 23 to 6. Big deal.  Who needs a bench when you got a Burridge (38 minutes). Lest we forget, the Lakers are not a one man show. Hayden Ward scored 13 pts ( 5x14 fg, 2x6 3's, 1x2 ft) and had a double-double of his own as he grabbed 10 rebounds, 5 at each end. He also added 4 steals and 2 blocks in 34 minutes. Conor Monaghan played 38 minutes and scored 11 pts (4x9 fg, 2x4 3's, 1x4 ft) with 4 assists 2 steals and a block. Sean Michele played the entire game and added 6 pts, 6 assists and 3 rebounds.
Lakers shot  31x72 fg (43.1%),3's (30.8% and), 10x16 ft (62.5%). They out rebounded the Golden Eagles 45-39 and committed 10 turnovers to 16 for Port.
Oswego goes to 6-1 (3-0) heading into the big showdown with the Bengals on Saturday afternoon. First up are the Fredonia Blue Devils on Friday night at 8 PM.

Brockport's Jordan Major came off the bench tonight to lead the Eagles with 13 pts. (3x7 fg, 3x4 3's, 4x5 ft). Donnell Jackson has 11 pts (5x8 fg 1x2 ft) with 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Derek Klein had 11 as well (4x7 fg, 3x5 ft) with 8 assists. Kyheem Green had 10 pts (5x9 fg) 9 rebounds and 4 blocked shots. Eagles shot 25x63 fg (39.7%), 8x21 3's. (38.1%) and 7x9 ft (77.8%).
Brockport falls to a shocking 1-6 (0-1) and travels north to take on Potsdam on Friday at 8 PM and Plattsburgh on Saturday at 4 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2011, 12:44:22 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 10:29:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2011, 04:52:10 AM
And tell the SID to correct that write up on the front page of the Buffalo State website. Jake didn't score 25 points against New Paltz, he only had 21. :o

You've got to quit drinking the orange kool-aid. ;D Or at least drink it through a straw instead of chugging it right down.  No way Norman Simmons makes first team YAC. May get 3rd team if he's lucky and Buffalo St. wins the YAC championship. Why? Because Simmons and Mitchell will be all conference  and possibly Nagaya as well. That only leaves 3rd team at best for Norman. Too many good teams and players this year for one team to hog all the glory. Norman's a solid player but he won't have the gaudy stats that a 1st teamer needs.   

Getting ready to hit the sack after 1 more cup of "Orange-Aid". We will revisit the "Norm Simmons - All Yac" conversation around ... Jan 21st? By then you should need no more convincing! ;)

I take it you think Norman has big plans for us. ;D I'm more worried about the other Simmons.  And did you correct that write up yet? No. Look at the bottom of any of "thebears"  posts. His signature line---"Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts"

Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 10:13:04 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
Since magicman and Coach Curle are probably going over the gameplan for tonites game ..I thought that I'd take a stab at predictions.

Cards over N. Paltz by 7
Oneonta beats Potsdam in Ot by 3
Cortland crushes Geneseo by 17
Brockport upsets Oswego by 5

No line on the Fredonia/Youngstown State game when I last checked the Mirage Sportsbook :D !

Wow this predicting is tough. Went 2 of 4 although correctly predicted an Red Dragon-Bears Ot game  ;D (even though the results weren't right >:( . ) Gotta get to the Mirage Sportsbook in Vegas, before Friday, for Magicmans free tutorial on "how to pick the winners".

P.s. Hope Mrs. Magicman is feeling better! ;)

5 for 5 tonight although the Fredonia game was a gimme. Season record now stands at 24-5.(82.7 %) Good job with the OT prediction too bad you couldn't make it count.  ;D I had it as a 2 point game and it would have been except for a useless Oneonta foul at the buzzer. I think the Bengals might take it on the chin Saturday. Oswego wants what they feel you got lucky and grabbed last year. I see another statement game coming. Problem I have is this was one of the weeks that I make up the game schedule for the National Pick Em league and I try and put up a slate of fairly even contests. Oswego-Buff St was one of the 10 games I chose. When I posted the schedule I was fairly certain I was picking Buffalo St. But now I'm not so sure. 7 of 9 guys so far have picked the Bengals.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
"Wego vs. The BUFFALO STATE BENGALS. Some facts for the naysayers who dont believe that my BELOVED BENGALS are for real.

Just the facts

1 - The BENGALS will wear Oswego out with their pressure/depth! The BENGALS first 5 opponents began to wilt in the 2nd half of each game which causes (a) turnovers (= points off of those turnovers), (b) cheap fouls (fouling out), (c) shots begin to fall short (ppg average goes down) and (d) they get short tempers (technicals)!

                                                                            Fact
    'Wegos top 3 starters average 35 mins pre game (with P.G. Michele averaging over 37 mins per contest). There top 3 subs average less than 13 PPG. That is just what the Dr. ordered for the BENGALS Forty Mins of Hell  a.k.a. FMOH (copyright - Nolan Richardson U of Arkansas).

  Previous BENGAL victims have seen the following happen when they don't have a quality bench to support their starting 5.

Exhibit A - New Paltz. Top 3 players (in terms of PPG and MPG) Matt Devine (a member of last weeks D3 HOOPS team of the week) 21.6 PPG/34 MinPG, Harris Wichard 20.1 PPG/35.9 MPG (This weeks member of the D3Hoops team of the week - not Jake Simmons ??? ) and Nick Taldi 13.9 PPG/33.6 MPG.
  Versus the BENGALS FMOH Devine stat line included 5 fouls (1 tech) to go with his 15 pts (6 + under his average). Wichard and Taldi had  5 turnovers each which is more than double their season average (Taldi 2.4 and Wichard 2.5 turnovers per game).

POINTS off of Turnovers for the game.. B.S.C. 16 pts.. N.P.U. 8 pts.

BENGALS win by 6

Exhibit B - Houghton  Top 2 players. Chris Confair 20.1 PPG/34.4 MPG and Mike Munoz 16.6 PPG/30.1 MPG
Versus the BENGALS FMOH Stat line - Confair 4 fouls and Munoz 5 fouls  and 10 TURNOVERS (which is more nearly half of his total for the season-22).
POINTS off of Tunrnovers for the game.. B. S. C. 27 - H. C. 14

BENGALS win by 15

Exhibit C thru E

And it goes on and on....
BENGALS vs. Oneonta    Points Off Turnovers BSC 18 v. OSU 16
BENGALS win by 4

BENGALS Vs Pitt-Bradford Points Off Turnovers BSC 35 v. PB 6
BENGALS win by 44

BENGALS v. D'Youville   Points Off Turnovers BSC 49 v. DC 20
BENGALS win by 49

Tomorrow I'll discuss how Hamer, McLean and Majak will outscore/outrebound and outplay the entire Oswego bench by themselves
I promise to present...Just the facts! ;) (copyright to thebear - SUNY Potsdam)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 07, 2011, 02:49:01 PM
Actually Magic, those FT's at :01 were far from meaningless.  Oneonta had every intention of putting the Bears on the line, but Potsdam ran a basketball version of the hook & lateral, and it took a while to grab someone.  Josh Lambert, not the best FT shooter, (6x17 entering the game) was clutch when his team needed him, and gave them the 4 pt margin, but Oneonta's Hail Mary at the end did hit the backboard.

I'm old enough to remember a certain Leroy Witherspoon hitting a 38 footer at the buzzer on the other team's home court to send a national championship game into OT, so any shot is theoretically possible.

Brockport scares me, they MUST be the best 1-6 team in the country.  They started with a quality non-conference slate, losing to 5-2 Montclair State, 4-2 Farmingdale State, 4-3 St. John Fisher, 6-0 Hobart (one point loss), 6-2 Rochester, and the aforementioned beating at the hands of Chad Burridige by 6-1 Oswego.

Geneseo also 1-6 gets their annual tour of the North Country as well.  Knights had to reload, with only 4 returnees from a mediocre 11-14 squad, but also has played a brutal opening schedule with their six losses to teams that are a combined 28-10.  Five of their losses are to Medaille (7-0), undefeated St. Joe's LI (5-0), national Power Rochester(6-2), Cortland (6-1), and perennial regional power St. John Fisher (4-3).

1-8 starts pretty much trash the season, and dissension sets in, so I would expect both of these clubs to be hungry & ready for Bear (& red birds too).  Will be interested in your picks on Friday.

Hope the Missus is on the mend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 07, 2011, 03:04:42 PM
Bengals, having been around this league since the Randy Smith era, (and having grown up with Buff State HOf'rs Kozlowski & Piorkowski, - I go WAY back), any given SUNY team, can beat any other SUNY team on a given night.  Just think what a close call you had over the weekend with Oneonta, which is a young, rebuilding team, that could very well finish last in the conference.  All it takes is one injury, a hot shooter, the wrong ref in the wrong building, and games are lost.

I would be careful with the trash talking, Oswego has all the parts needed to repeat their performance of last season, good bigs, good shooters, good coaching (Jason Leone is an excellent coach), good guard play and lots of size coming off the bench.  I'm sure your post is in their locker room already.

Do not underestimate Hayden Ward.  In my opinion he is one of the top five players in the conference, and is relentless, never takes a play off.

It isn't always about gaudy stats.  When Potsdam had their 60 game win streak, their leading scorer only averaged 15 points per game, but he was the national player of the year in 1987.
During the streak, Potsdam outscored their opponents by an average of 25 points per game, but no one on the Bears team had exceptional individual stats.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 07, 2011, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2011, 11:58:15 PM
One time he must have moved so fast, Port and the stat guys didn't even see him score, so they just wrote down Chad Burridge and credited him with 2 more points. (14:02 of the first half).

That basket was a made tip-in by Burridge. It shows up that way on Brockport's play-by-play. However, the PrestoSports system that is being used for box scores this year for the first time must have a small glitch and doesn't know how to translate the tip-in code (in Statcrew, L is layup, J is jumper and P is tip-in).

The stat geek portion of our show is now over. Real basketball discussion may now resume.  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2011, 04:06:32 PM
New Paltz guard/foward Harris Wichard was named as one of the forwards to the D3hoops Team of the Week for the week ending Dec.4th. Congratulations to him. It marked the 2nd straight week a player from New Paltz gained weekly honors on the Team of the Week as Matt Devine was given the honor last week. I thought Jake Simmons might get a spot on the weekly team as well, but the 2 guards that were chosen (Matt Addison/Hardin Simmons, and Markieth Wilson/Rust College, both had monster weeks and were deserving so I can see why Jake was left off. Plus it's tough for 2 players from the same conference to make it on the team in the same week.

What's interesting is that Jake was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending December 4th. In addition he was also named as the ECAC Upstate Division III Player of the Week.

Here are the stat lines for Harris and Jake from last week. Both were outstanding.

Wichard: 3 game total- Team was 2-1  70 points (22-27-21), 22x43 FG (51.1%), 5x15 3's (33.3%), 21x31 FT (67.7 %), 27 rebounds, 10 assists, 1 steal, 109 minutes played out of 120.

Simmons: 3 game total-Team was 3-0  75 points (27-27-21), 25x49 FG (51.0%), 11x25 3's ) (44.0%), 14x16 FT (87.5%), 10 rebounds, 1 assist, 9 steals, 104 minutes played out of 120.

Harris was named to the team as a Forward so they were not comparing Wichard's week against Simmons' week.  Have to figure Jake was under consideration though for one of the guard positions.

Interesting that their teams played each other last week. In the game between New Paltz and Buffalo St. they both scored 21 points, Jake's FG % was 46.6 (7x15) to 37.5 (6x16) for Harris. Harris was 7x9 from the line and Jake was 5x7.  They both were 2x6 from behind the arc. Harris had 6 rebounds to 3 for Jake. Jake had 5 steals to 0 for Harris. Harris had 5 assists to 0 for Jake. Jake won the most important battle though as his team came away with the road win 89-83.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2011, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 07, 2011, 03:04:42 PM

I would be careful with the trash talking, Oswego has all the parts needed to repeat their performance of last season, good bigs, good shooters, good coaching (Jason Leone is an excellent coach), good guard play and lots of size coming off the bench.  I'm sure your post is in their locker room already.


No trash talking here. I was just responding to another post and that posters opinion that Oswego would beat Buff State Sat. I thought that a BUFF State perspective might be appropriate as to why the BENGALS should win. Nothing more...nothing less... "just the facts". The facts about Oswego are clear with regards to Starters mins and subs production. I thought that I would offer my opinion on who would win and how, which is what we ALL do on these blogs!

I'm gonna focus on Cortland now since thats the next opponent that the BENGALS will face! ;)

Win or lose Saturday will take care of itself!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2011, 05:30:01 PM
Quote from: franelia on December 07, 2011, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2011, 11:58:15 PM
One time he must have moved so fast, Port and the stat guys didn't even see him score, so they just wrote down Chad Burridge and credited him with 2 more points. (14:02 of the first half).

That basket was a made tip-in by Burridge. It shows up that way on Brockport's play-by-play. However, the PrestoSports system that is being used for box scores this year for the first time must have a small glitch and doesn't know how to translate the tip-in code (in Statcrew, L is layup, J is jumper and P is tip-in).

The stat geek portion of our show is now over. Real basketball discussion may now resume.  :D

Fran, Thanks for the explanation.  I did give me the opportunity to make light of the matter though. ;D Congrats on your Red Dragons beating my Cards last week. (I hope we can return the favor in January. ;)) I enjoyed the audio broadcast. Bobby Comstock does a good job.

Speaking of broadcasts. Could someone out there please tell the Oswego guys that do the video broadcast to hike up the volume a tad. I enjoy the streaming video and the picture quality is better than many others I've watched but man those guys are hard to hear. Of course at my age I'm hard of hear-ing. :-[ I'm pretty sure Mr. and Mrs. Burridge read my posts. Could you tell them for me to JACK UP THE VOLUME. Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 07, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
I solved it by volume adjustable external speakers plugged into my laptop.  (Didn't help the outcome, but did improve the sound)

Some of this is the computer, some the operating system.

Geek Bear over & out

P.S.  I think the Burridges (from Hannibal) are at most Laker's games at Max Ziel
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2011, 03:44:04 AM
Quote from: thebear on December 07, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
I solved it by volume adjustable external speakers plugged into my laptop.  (Didn't help the outcome, but did improve the sound)

Some of this is the computer, some the operating system.

Geek Bear over & out

P.S.  I think the Burridges (from Hannibal) are at most Laker's games at Max Ziel

Thanks for the tip bear. I have a laptop at my store which is where I am when I' m watching a game on streaming video. (Can ony get dial up at my residence) I do have external speakers in my closet that were left from a previous computer(without built in sound) that got fried by a lightening strike at my home 2 years ago. Just had my wife dig them out and will try them tomorrow. My wife says there might not be a jack to plug them into but then again we've never looked.

Burridges attend many road games as well. I expect I'll see them again this year (actually Jan 27th is next year) when the Lakers come North to take on the Cards.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2011, 10:29:26 AM
All you need is the headphone jack, most pc speakers are driven from the headphone jacks, and all the ampliflication is built into the speaker system.

If you're running Windows 7 you may need to download the latest audio drivers, as there was a glitch in the original operating system.

My wife teaches at Crane and they stream most of their concerts, so she insists that our computers have decent sound.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2011, 06:00:04 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 08, 2011, 10:29:26 AM
All you need is the headphone jack, most pc speakers are driven from the headphone jacks, and all the ampliflication is built into the speaker system.

If you're running Windows 7 you may need to download the latest audio drivers, as there was a glitch in the original operating system.

My wife teaches at Crane and they stream most of their concerts, so she insists that our computers have decent sound.

bear,
I'm all hooked up. Sounds great. Two external speakers with volume controls from my old Dell monster. My Dell laptop at the store has the headphone jack right in the front. Simple as pie, no download necessary I should have thought of it before. :-[ Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2011, 06:47:00 PM
Happy to be of service.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2011, 07:30:56 PM
Only game on tap tonight is Montclair St at New Paltz

Pointspread has Montclair State favored by 2 but I think if they can beat Brockport they should handle the Hawks. Monclair State wins this one 85-74.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2011, 08:59:53 PM
Montclair State downs New Paltz 84-63. Hawks never in this game after the 1st 10 minutes. Up 11-7, with 6:28 gone in the 1st half, the Hawks were outscored 11-0 to fall behind 18-11. The Red Hawks from Montclair St. then extended their advantage to 40-21 over the next 6 minutes and were up at the half 49-30. Any hope for a New Paltz comeback was quickly dashed as the Red Hawks scored the first 8 points of the 2nd half to open up a 27 point lead and from there they coasted to the finish line. Hawks trailed by 30 with 11:14 to play and Montclair St emptied the bench.

New Paltz was led by Harris Wichard with 22 pts (7x13 fg, 4x7 3's, 4x6 ft). Matt Devine was the only other Hawk in double digits as he  had 10 pts (3x12 fg, 1x6 3's, 3x4 ft) and 14 rebounds.

Hawks shot 20x55 fg (36.4%) 9x29 3's (31%) and 14x18 ft (77.8%). They got killed on the boards 50-33 and committed 18 TO's to only 10 for the Red Hawks.

Montclair St. placed 4 guys in double figures, led by Andrew August with 22. They were 31x71 from the field (43.7%), 7x15 from the arc (46.7%) and 15x21 from the line (71.4%).

New Paltz falls to 3-5 on the season (1-2 conf) and will next play when they host Oneonta on Sat. Dec 10th at 4 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2011, 10:03:39 PM

And Oneonta tripped by Hartwick 57-51. OSt -- up 38-28 at the half -- scored its last bucket with 9:08 to play and led 49-41 at that juncture. The Wick finally went on top 52-51 at 2:41. Talk about a fadeaway!! Dragons 19x52fg, 7x22 3s,6x9ft. D. Lee 15 pts(5x10fg, 5x8 3s), 8 rebs; N. Sarchioto 10 pts(5x11fg)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2011, 10:23:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
"Wego vs. The BUFFALO STATE BENGALS. Some facts for the naysayers who dont believe that my BELOVED BENGALS are for real.

Just the facts

1 - The BENGALS will wear Oswego out with their pressure/depth! The BENGALS first 5 opponents began to wilt in the 2nd half of each game which causes (a) turnovers (= points off of those turnovers), (b) cheap fouls (fouling out), (c) shots begin to fall short (ppg average goes down) and (d) they get short tempers (technicals)!

Oswego is a bit better than the Bengals first five opponents. ;)

Am I the naysayers you're referring to? ??? I didn't see anyone else even mention the Buff St.-Oswego game other than me. And I'm surprised because you KNOW I'm a big fan of your Bengals. And I have a pretty good idea of what the team's strengths and weaknesses are. Remember who told you that the Bengals would be in the sweet 16 last year before anyone.


Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2011, 02:42:22 PM
                                                                            Fact
    'Wegos top 3 starters average 35 mins pre game (with P.G. Michele averaging over 37 mins per contest). There top 3 subs average less than 13 PPG. That is just what the Dr. ordered for the BENGALS Forty Mins of Hell  a.k.a. FMOH (copyright - Nolan Richardson U of Arkansas).

Brockport uses a 10 man rotation that constantly applies pressure and that didn't seem to wear out the Lakers. I'm thinking they won't wilt. ;D

I'm guessing your post was in response to my thinking that Oswego might beat Buff St. this weekend. I said that originally I was fairly certain I was picking Buffalo St, but now I'm not so sure. I still haven't made my pick. :-\  I may end up picking the Bengals. The pointspread has the Bengals favored by 8, which I think is too high. If I could bet on the game I'd take Oswego and the points. But straight up it's a tough choice. Oswego, with 3 straight road games vs a Bengal team that had Tuesday off and now gets home cooking, might give the Bengals the edge.

And I don't think "thebear" means to sound so stearn, but as a longtime participant of this board he knows there is no such thing as a sure thing in the YAC, and you did sound pretty sure about your Bengals. Who knows, to paraphase Billy Joel  "You May Be Wrong For All We Know, but You May Be Right". :D I don't fault you for being enthusiastic about your team, don't think "thebear" does either. Just think that the statement about 3 reserve Bengals outplaying the entire Oswego bench was a little too enthusiastic. And as I said earlier, who needs a bench when you have a Burridge...And a Ward...And a Michele...And a, well you can see where I'm going with this. I'm sure Saturday's game will be a barnburner and no matter who wins it'll be fun to watch. Wish I could watch it, but I'll be at Memorial Hall hoping my Cardinals can pull off the upset of Brockport. The oddsmakers have the Cards favored by 8 points but these two teams have went down to the wire in just about every game they've played for the past 6 years. I think the Golden Eagles should be favored in this one despite their 1-6 record. They have basically the same team that defeated Plattsburgh twice last season, and the Cards lost almost all their starters. I may have to pick against Plattsburgh this week and hope I'm wrong. ::)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2011, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 08, 2011, 10:03:39 PM

And Oneonta tripped by Hartwick 57-51. OSt -- up 38-28 at the half -- scored its last bucket with 9:08 to play and led 49-41 at that juncture. The Wick finally went on top 52-51 at 2:41. Talk about a fadeaway!! Dragons 19x52fg, 7x22 3s,6x9ft. D. Lee 15 pts(5x10fg, 5x8 3s), 8 rebs; N. Sarchioto 10 pts(5x11fg)

Thanks jdex. That game slipped right by me. Didn't even know it was scheduled. But just so you know I woulda picked Hartwick 57-51. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2011, 10:56:01 PM
Hard to believe that Oneonta didn't score a field goal after that one at 9:08. Even worse is that they only scored 2 points after that in the final 9 minutes and nothing after 2 free throws with 7:28 left to play. They were 0x14 in the last 9 minutes with 4 turnovers and only got to the line that one time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2011, 11:51:15 PM
Oneonta shot less than 20% FG% in the second half.  That's a level I haven't seen very often and this is my 42nd year following college basketball.

They would have been better off pulling a Grinnell and chucking up threes within the first 10 seconds

I thought Hartwick was one of the favorites in the E8. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2011, 12:39:36 AM
Mrs. magicman thanks thebear and Bengalsrule for their concern. She has recovered nicely and no longer needs my nursing. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2011, 05:12:17 AM
Games on tap for Friday evening:

Cortland St. at Buffalo St. 8 PM

Both teams undefeated in conference play. Bengals own a 4 game winning streak over the Red Dragons and their lofty ranking is on the line this weekend against their 2 toughest conference contenders. Bengals thinking a lot about tomorrow's showdown with Oswego, can't overlook these Red Dragons. Cortland will look to limit Bengal possessions and work the shot clock. They don't want to get into a track meet with the Bengals. Oddsmakers have made Buffalo St. a 9 point favorite. I think that Cortland is a year away from the top echelon but still capable of an upset here. Would need Winter, Smith and Manning to start raining three's for that to happen however. I think the Bengals stay focused and take care of business, but it won't be easy. Buff St. 76 Cortland 70


Oswego St. at Fredonia St.  8 PM

Oswego comes into this game on a roll having won 6 straight after a season opening hiccup. Fredonia playing better than early season predictions with a 6-1 log against D3 competition. I think the oddsmakers fell asleep on this one though as the Lakers are listed as a 1 point favorite. If the Blue Devils can lose to New Paltz by 17 on the road then they can lose to the Lakers by double digits at home. I feel the spread should be more like 11 so I'm going with Oswego 68-57.


Brockport St. at Potsdam St.  8 PM

I think Brockport has got to start winning some ballgames. I stated on Tuesday that they must be the best 1-5 team in the country. Well now their 1-6 after Tuesday's beatdown by the Lakers. Hard to figure how, basically, the same team that made it to the finals of last year's YAC tournament and was picked to finish in the top 3 this year is off to such a bad start. It's deja vu as they started out 1-5 a year ago before winning 5 of their next 6. That 1 loss was to the Bears in Potsdam. Bears are struggling as well having troubles offensively, losing 3 in a row before eking out an overtime win against celler dweller Oneonta. Oddsmakers have called this game a pick em but Port has played a tougher schedule and been more competitive. I think Green and Williams will be too much for the Bears as the Golden Eagles win 75-67. Hope I'm wrong on that one though.       



Geneseo St. at Plattsburgh St.  8 PM

Plattsburgh State has to put this game in the win column if they hope to achieve their goal of a home playoff game. Losing two close games on the road last weekend will hopefully show the young Cards how important it is to protect their home court. Geneseo's slow start has been against some quality teams and they will come to play. Posted line has the Cards favored by a highly inflated 13 points. I won't be surprised if the Cards cover but I see it more like a  72-65 Plattsburgh win. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2011, 05:28:46 AM
Results of SUNYAC teams versus non conference and non-conference in region opponents through games of December 8th.

Team                                                   overall record                                                  in region record
Fredonia St.                                                     5-0                                                           5-0
Buffalo St.                                                        3-0                                                           2-0
Cortland St.                                                      3-1                                                           3-1
Oswego St.                                                       3-1                                                           3-1
Plattsburgh St.                                                  2-2                                                           2-2
Potsdam St.                                                      2-2                                                           1-1
Oneonta St.                                                      1-4                                                           1-4
New Paltz St.                                                    2-3                                                           2-3
Brockport St.                                                    1-5                                                           0-5
Geneseo St.                                                      1-5                                                          1-5
Totals                                                              23-23                                                      20-22
                                                               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2011, 08:42:45 PM

Cortland doing its thing, breaking BS pressure and staying deliberate, but Bengals find the range late in the half to take 39-36 lead

Geneseo 26, Plattsburgh 10 with 7:33 till half

Fredonia 36, Oswego 33 at half

Potsdam 16, Brockport 15 with 8:33 till break
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2011, 08:57:57 PM

Geneseo 40, Plattsburgh 25 at half

Cortland had BS 33-21 with 3:54 left in the half, then saw J. Simmons and N. McLean right the Bengals ship. Cortland shooting just 39 percent fg and poorly from the line. Continue with long range woes
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2011, 09:00:01 PM

Brockport 29, Potsdam 23 at the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2011, 09:23:46 PM

Buffalo St. taking charge .......71-58 at 7 minute mark and J. Simmons conversion off a steal. Simmons 18th point. Cortland 5x21 3s........Ouch!!

Fredonia at last look 72-69 over Oswego at 7 minute mark

Potsdam and Brockmen about even

Geneseo still large on Pburghers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2011, 09:47:15 PM

Oswego finally beats back Fredonia 76-71

Buffalo St. trips Cortland 85-76
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2011, 09:57:29 PM

Buffalo St. sees Cortland make 80-76 approach at 1:20 on B. Manning hoop. Buffs N. Simmons answers at a minute and Bengals add a final touch. J. Simmons 21 pts including 5 treys. J. Mitchell 14 pts, 14 rebs as BS holds wide board boost. Five BSers score in double figures. J. Winter's 18 pts top CSt which also got 10 pts in limited play from fr M. Brown, including eight in the first half. His bucket made it 50-50 in final period. Bengal A. Hamer with a swipe resulting in Mitchell dunk and BS off to 58-50 lead

Oswego the chaser for a good deal of the night. Lakers seize the lead for good at 4:44 on C. Gilkes basket. C. Burridge points provide 72-68 margin. Fredonia within 72-70 at 0:35 on K. Mitchell hoop and accompanying ft. At 0:28 R. Sheridan layup gives OSt 74-71 cushion. Free throws finish the job. Gilkes 23 pts(6x11fg, 11x14ft); H. Ward 22 pts(8x14fg, 3x5 3s); Burridge 19 pts(9x15fg), 6 rebs. Freds have Mitchell 17 pts(9x10ft); A. Billups 14 pts; D. Kashmer 12 pts; D. Goodwin 10 pts. Freds 21x27ft, OSt 15x21ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2011, 10:12:35 PM

Geneseo drubs Plattsburgh 84-63 or thereabouts (last we saw ....0:26). Mr. Magic's been taken ill! Knights a royal 27x51fg, 25x35ft. Five Gens in double figures. M. Hoy 15 pts, 6 assts; G. Lyons 14 pts; J. Mcenna 14 pts, 7 rebs; C. Fedge 12 pts; R. Riefenhauser 12 pts. Crds 19x51fg. M. Mitchell 12 pts, S. Fields 10 pts

Brockport sinks Potsdam 62-57. J Ivy with 21 pts(7x11fg and clinches late from the ft line. G. Williams 13 pts; D. Jackson 13 pts. Eagles 43 percent from the field while Bears at 32 percent. Potsdam paced by C. Pierce 19 pts(7x11fg), 7 rebs; J. Lambert 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 09, 2011, 10:41:09 PM
Just back from Potsdam - Brockport Game.  Solid effort by Eagles who were without leading scorer and rebounder Kyheem Green, who didn't make the trip.

Bears hampered by foul trouble (3 of top 6 fouled out in regulation) and a myriad of missed shots in the paint.

Geneseo margin over 'burgh is a shocker to be sure.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2011, 12:01:00 AM
Knew I was in trouble when the Cards came out for warmups and John Perez was in street clothes. Still, Plattsburgh played like they hadn't played the game before, and unless Perez could have pulled a Burridge, there's no way the Cards would have won this game with him. Took the Cards 11 minutes and 37 seconds before they hit double digits. Of course when you have 14 possessions in that time and end up with 9 misses plus 5 turnovers you aren't going to score many points. Geneseo beat the Cards off the dribble, off of screens and off the glass. They had a double digit lead 6 minutes in and built it to 21 with 4:42 left in the period at 33-12. Cards must have caught Red Dragon fever (the Oneonta Strain). They couldn't buy a basket and more often than not weren't even close. Only twice in the entire 1st half did we score without a Geneseo score coming immediately after. Once early and once late. In between the Blue Knights played like they were 6-1 instead of 1-6. Plattsburgh managed to whittle the 21 point deficit down to 14 on several occasions and went into the locker room down 40-25. Any hope of a comeback in the 2nd half was quickly put to rest as the Blue Knights extended their lead to 20 by the 13:22 mark and grabbed their biggest lead of the night 65-39 with 8:46 left to play. Final score was just a question of how much.

Geneseo had 3 players in double figures led by Mike Hoy who has been unusally quiet so far this year. Guess he was saving it for the Cards. He led the Knights in scoring last year but came into this game with only a 6.7 ppg average. Tonight he had 14 pts (4x7 fg,1x3 3's, 5x8 ft) and also led the team with 6 assists. Ryan Riefenhauser tossed in 13 pts (5x7 fg, 3x4 ft) and Conner Fredge came off the bench and added 11 pts.(3x5 fg, 5x8 ft). James McKenna also came off the bench and was the game's leading rebounder with 7 boards to go with his 9 pts ( 4x5 fg, 1x2 3's, 0x1 ft). Jordan Jones and Abe Miller both scored 9 points and had 3 boards. The Blue Knights shot a sizzling 27x51 from the field (52.9%), 5x12 from the arc (41.7 %) and 25x35 from the line (71.4%) Rebounds were in favor in the bad guys as well 33-24. Stat sheet shows 15 turnovers for Geneseo and 13 for Plattsburgh but I think there's something fishy there.

Cardinals were led by back up point guard Mike Mitchell with his 1st game in double digits as a member of the Cards. Mitchell scored 12 points (4x10 fg, ox2 3's, 4x5 ft) and had 6 assists with 2 steals, in 20 minutes of playing time. Shavar Fields had 10 points (3x5 fg, 4x6 ft) but his playing time was limited due to foul trouble. Bench players Jordan Moody (8 pts in 15 mins.) and Anthony Hodge (7 pts 3 steals in 8 mins) were two of the few bright spots for the Cards tonight.
Plattsburgh shot 19x51fg (37.3%), 5x16 3's (31.3%) and 20x33 ft (60.6%).


It doesn't get any easier for Plattsburgh tomorrow as the now 2-6 Golden Eagles invade Memorial Hall looking to move up in the standings. Plattsburgh falls to 3-5 (1-3 conf).
Geneseo improves to 2-6 (1-1 conf) and will make the 90 mile trip over to Potsdam to take on the Bears tomorrow afternoon.


About the only consolation I got tonight was my picks went 3-1 to improve my record to 28-6 (82.3%)

Oswego getting a scare from Fredonia tonight. Maybe the Blue Devils are better than I think or maybe Oswego was thinking ahead to tomorrow. Final a little tighter than I thought.   

Cortland also throws a scare into the Bengals. Bengals also looking ahead? Red Dragons trio not to hot from arc land which they needed to be in hopes of an upset. Buffalo with at least a 4 game win streak versus the Red Dragons now.

Brockport winning without Green on the road surprises me a little, since they couldn't win with him. That doesn't bode well for the Bears when they visit Brockport later on. Don't know if I would have picked the Golden Eagles in this game if I knew that ahead of time. Pretty sure I was going to pick Brockport over my Cards tomorrow. May have to rethink that. But if the Cards play the way they did tonight, Brockport could be with out Green, Williams, Ivy and Jackson and still win. As I said before the season started and I'll probably say it again, it's going to be a roller coaster ride with this young team.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2011, 12:13:44 AM
Just got back from the BENGALS Sports Arena. Tough game...Good win...face Oswego in less 16 hours... BENGALS need to play their best if they hope to win!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 10, 2011, 07:41:50 AM
Oswego vs. Buffalo State  #1 vs. #2, A key game for the conference.  Why is it being played on December 10?  When did the first semester of a season have such an important game for the conference?  Isn't the first semester suppose to be for getting your team ready for the second semester conference schedule.  Besides its on a Saturday afternoon, attendance should be great.  Its been a long time since I was in school but this time of the year was for getting ready for finals and getting home for Christmas not the Albany State game.  Jerry Welsh would go crazy if he had to play Albany State on Saturday afternoon in December. He made sure to play  at Albany State on Friday or Saturday (at night) during February break to make sure every student or alumni within 100 miles was in attendance.  Do you think Duke plays North Carolina in December, how about closer to home Syracuse playing UCONN, how about D3 rivals Hope and Calvin do you think they would play each other in December.  Someone needs to take a real close look at this conference its broken and the world knows it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2011, 10:06:26 AM
I'm not 1 to defend the SUNYAC schedulers in anyway but 3 things that I thought I would at least mention with regards to scheduling this year as opposed to years gone by.
1 -This is the first season (since 2007) that Sunyac teams have played more than 2 games prior to the 1st of the year. Traditionally (since 07) there have been games in the first week of Dec. and then thats it until 1/1. This year there are Yac contests during the first 2 weeks of Dec and everyone will have played at least 4, and most 5, games by the end of this evening.
2 - Last year Buffalo State played Oswego and Cortland at home on Dec 4th and 5th. 2 week before finals began and  the begoinning of a mass exit of students from campus. And Bearnation is right...a ton of students left Buff State yesterday after they finished thier last class. >:( (since many professors don't give finals anymore, or if they do... it was this week not next!!)
3 - The return match between The BENGALS and the Lakers is scheduled for the last weekend of this season 2/17/12.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2011, 10:53:48 AM
Quote from: bearnation on December 10, 2011, 07:41:50 AM
Oswego vs. Buffalo State  #1 vs. #2, A key game for the conference.  Why is it being played on December 10?  When did the first semester of a season have such an important game for the conference?  Isn't the first semester suppose to be for getting your team ready for the second semester conference schedule.  Besides its on a Saturday afternoon, attendance should be great.  Its been a long time since I was in school but this time of the year was for getting ready for finals and getting home for Christmas not the Albany State game.  Jerry Welsh would go crazy if he had to play Albany State on Saturday afternoon in December. He made sure to play  at Albany State on Friday or Saturday (at night) during February break to make sure every student or alumni within 100 miles was in attendance.  Do you think Duke plays North Carolina in December, how about closer to home Syracuse playing UCONN, how about D3 rivals Hope and Calvin do you think they would play each other in December.  Someone needs to take a real close look at this conference its broken and the world knows it.

bearnation,
It's not the first time, (and it won't be the last) that there's been an early season meeting between two of the top teams in the YAC. Last year these two teams met on December 4th and had their second meeting on January 28th. Two years ago Oswego and Brockport battled on December 4th when they were both near the top of the standings. It's not like they only face each other once like the NESCAC, and this year due to the luck of the schedule the Bengals and Lakers meet on the final weekend of the regular season in what may very well determine the regular season champ, so that works out better than it did last year. 8-) You're right that Christmas vacation might cut into the crowds available for the game however and that's too bad, but hopefully the locals will show up in force to support the nationally ranked Bengals in such an important contest.
When the schedules are made out (usually a year in advance) it's not the schools that determine the game dates. When you have a 10 team conference (instead of eight like so many others) and you play a double round robin that will account for 18 of your 25 contests, there's not a lot of choice regarding the scheduling of first semester games. As it is most YAC schools (and most schools in all divisions) play a large portion (if not all) of their out of conference schedule before conference play starts. Usually some exceptions are if they travel over the holidays to play in a tournament or a crosstown rival that for various reasons isn't scheduled until later in the season. Even doing this still dictates that some years 5 or 6 conference games have to be played in December. That means you will face 5 or 6 of the other nine conference opponents. Some years you won't see the 2 frontrunners meet in December, due to the luck of the draw, but other years you will. SUNYAC officials can't predict that far ahead of time who the top teams will be. The magicman can, but not the YAC men and they don't call me for my opinion. ;D Hope that explains it. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2011, 11:12:17 AM

And this IS Division III, isn't it?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2011, 12:00:51 PM
Pressed for time today so I'll have to make this quick pick Saturday.

Here's the slate:

Oswego St at Buffalo St.  4 PM

Lets get right to the big game. Both teams playing well and hard to pick the winner of this one. Oddsmakers have the Bengals favored by 8 pts but I think they were drinking the same orange kool-aid that Bengalsrule was chugging. I've waffled with this pick all week long and I'm picking the Lakers because the Bengals have to prove to me that they can beat this Laker team.  They haven't done so in the past three meetings and the Lakers have won in their last two trips to Buffalo. Plus Bengalsrule can say I told you so if I'm wrong. ;D Lakers win 78-74.
 

Geneseo St. at Potsdam St 4 PM

Thought all week I could pick my alma mater in this game but after watching the Blue Knights dismantle Plattsburgh last night I'm going with them. Posted line has the Bears favored by 4.5 but Geneseo wins this one 70-65.



Cortland St. at Fredonia St. 4 PM

Fredonia and Cortland both coming off losses against YAC elite and looking to rebound. Red Dragons can hold onto 2nd place with a win while Blue Devils hope to get even in the YAC. Posted line is a pick em and so I will. Red Dragons 72-70.

Oneonta St. at New Paltz St  4 PM

Both teams coming off losses to out of conference foes. New Paltz got handled by Montclair St. and Onenota came to a screeching halt against Hartwick. Pointspread favors the Hawks by 4. So do I. New Paltz 73-69.


Brockport St at Plattsburgh St  4 PM

I'd like to pass on this game please. Not sure what to expect. I assume Kyheem Greene is out for Port and not sure if Perez is playing for the Cards. Pointspread has the Cardinals favored by 7.5 but yesterday's point spread had them favored by 13 and we saw what happened there.  Missing  players will also skew the spread. Cards are up and down. Today it's their turn to be up. Plattsburgh wins a nailbiter 67-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2011, 05:09:42 PM

Oswego hammering away at Buffalo St. Lakers 48-30 at half and by 14 with 15' left

Cortland over Fredonia 31-25 at half and maintaining margin early second half

Plattsburgh and Brockport squared at 30 at half. Pburgh by 5 at 16'

New Paltz 40, Oneonta 37 at half. NP by 22 at 13'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2011, 05:41:53 PM

Cortland beats Fredonia 61-57 behind J. Winter 20 points
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2011, 05:46:11 PM

Oswego blitzes Buffalo St. 85-71. Ward 21 pts, Burridge 19

New Paltz whipes Oneonta 95-74

Potsdam and Geneseo in OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
Plattsburgh downs Brockport 74-67. Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2011, 06:10:48 PM
Potsdam wins in overtime 66-56 over Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2011, 08:13:15 PM
Dinah Washington was right after all. What a difference a day makes! One day after their worst performance of the year, the Cardinals played one of their best games of the season. The return of John Perez to the Plattsburgh lineup certainly helped. The 6'3" sophomore forward  scored 17 points (6x16 fg, 1x1 3's, 4x6 ft) and grabbed 13 rebounds in 35 minutes to help lead the Cards to the win. Soph, Shavar Fields was the games high scorer as he dropped in 21 (9x19fg, 0x3 3's, 3x8 ft) with 5 rebounds.

Plattsburgh and Brockport duked it out in a first half that saw 6 ties and 4 lead change with the largest lead a Brockport advantage at 22-15 with 7:23 left to play. Still down 29-23 with 2:55 remaining the Cards ended the half on a 7-1 run to go into the break tied at 30. After a brief 33-32 Port lead, the Cardinals, fueled by Perez and freshman Shamoy Mcintosh  outscored the Eagles 19-3 over the next 8:12 to take their largest lead of the night at 51-36.  It took the Golden Eagles just under 4 minutes to fight back and  close the gap to 55-51 with 6:57 left to play. Plattsburgh continued to hold the advantage however and the lead fluctuated between 4 and 8 points until Brockport got it to 63-60 with 2:26 left on the clock. Fields then hit 2 free throws and Perez nailed a huge 3 with 1:29 left, to boost it back to 69-60 and the ballgame was over. After Port hit a 3 to close within 6 the Eagles called timeout. On the ensuing in bounds play from under the Brockport basket the Cards ran a play drawn up by Coach Curle during the time out and hit Shavar Fields all alone with a touchdown pass for an easy layin. Cards hit 3 of 5 from the line to close out the game.

Senior point guard Ketema Brooks only scored 2 pts in today's game but he racked up 11 assists as he set up some nice baskets in critical moments. McIntosh came off the bench with some quality minutes for the Cards scoring 9 points (3x6 fg, 1x2 3's 2x2 ft), with 4 boards, 2 assists and a steal in 17 minutes. Freshman Mike Mitchell subbed at the point and also had some big plays down the stretch. He finished with 7 pts, (2x2 fg, 3x4 ft), 2 rebounds 2 assists  and a steal. Reggie Williams ended up with 6 pts, 6 boards, 2 assists, 2 blocks, and a steal. Cardinals shot the ball a little better today going 28x64 from the field (43.8%), 4x16 3's (25%) and 14x24 ft (58.3 %). They ended up with 40 boards to 35 for Port with 16 of them on the offensive end. Plattsburgh had 13 turnovers to 14 for the Eagles.

Brockport had 3 guys in double figures led by Lance Legister who came off the bench to score 14 pts (3x5 fg, 8x10 ft) in 23 minutes. Gerald Williams (3x12 fg, 1x6 3's, 4x4 ft) and Donnell Jackson (4x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 3x3 ft) both added 11 points. Williams also led Brockport with 9 rebounds. Derek Klein (3x6 fg, 3x5 3's) and Jon Ivy(3x7 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x2 ft) both had 9 points. Dorian Hayden had 6 points 5 rebounds, 3 assists, a block and a steal. Golden Eagles shot 19x54 fg (35.2%), 7x18 3's (38.9%) and 22x27 ft (81.5%)

Cardinals are now off until they head south over the holidays and take on the St Vincent Bearcats (from Latrobe,Pennslyvania), a member of the Presidents Athletic Conference. This game will take place on December 30th in the Miami Classic  tournament. I believe the game will be in Fort Lauderdale. The start time is listed as 5:30 in case there are any alumni snowbirds that wish to take in the action. Plattsburgh improves to 4-5 overall (2-3 conf).

Brockport falls to 2-7 overall (1-2 conf) and will next play after the break on January 3rd when they travel to St Lawrence to take on the Larries. The loss of All Conference Senior forward Kyheem Green and his nearly double double average (15.4 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 2.0 bpg) will surely put a crimp in their conference hopes. Hopefully his injury will improve with the time off and he'll rejoin the team before too long. It was bad enough the team got off to a slow start, but losing your best player for any length of time is adversity that is tough to overcome.   

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 10, 2011, 09:06:40 PM
Geneseo at Potsdam
In the first half, the teams went back and forth, Potsdam opening a five point lead at 16:40, then the Knights reversing to a five point lead with 5:30 left.  Potsdam clawed back, tying at 3:14 on an improbable 3 ptr by inside stalwart Curtis Pierce, who repeated from the arc with :53 left to give the Bears a 26-25 lead going into the half.

The second half followed a similar pattern, Bears extended to a 5pt lead at 17:39, Knights then reversed the margin and then some with a 20-6 run, giving them a 9 point lead at 45-36 with 9:08.  Coach Dobbs fired up his team with a bench technical at 10:49 that seemed to stop Geneseo's momentum and get the Bears serious about winning this game.

Knights still led by 9 51-42 at 5:43 left in regulation following a layup by Abe Miller, who tormented the Bears all day with his size and bulk in the paint.  Bears then put on an 11-2 burst to end regulation tied at 53 Rob Duquette led the Potsdam comeback with several soft mid range jumpers in the paint, and Brad Drysdale saved the day with an athletic shot block right before the horn ended regulation.

Bears continued their momentum in the extra period, running out to an 11 point margin on a combination of free throws, layups and cold shooting by the visiting Blue Knights.  Andy Drescher finally ended the Geneseo schneid with a trey with :20, but it was too little too late as the Bears dominated the overtime in posting a 66-56 victory.

Curtis Pierce led all scorers with 15 points, including 2 treys, and added 10 rebounds in 44 minutes of action.  Rob Duquette added 14 despite foul trouble in both halves, and Tony Efese tossed in 11 points.  Josh Lambert had 5 assists and some clutch free throws both in regulation and the overtime.

Bears shot 24x53 from the field, 3x12 from the arc, and 15x20 from the stripe.

Miller and James McKenna led Geneseo with 10 each, while Ryan Riefenhauser was the top rebounder with 7.  Knights were 20x51 from the floor, 6x22 from the arc, and only 10x15 from the FT line, including some key misses at the end of regulation.

Bears now 4-5 (2-3 in Conference) begin finals on Monday, and are off until they play Alvernia in the Casa Mia Classic in Central Valley (Allentown area) Pennsylvania.

Geneseo will surprise teams all season, they are much better than their 2-7 record would portend.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2011, 10:27:00 PM
  Just got in from the Sports Arena (after a stop at the buffet)....Tough game.... Lakers outplayed my Beloved BENGALS .......down 18 at half...couldn't close the gap enough in the 2nd to make a game of it.
  Congrats to Oswego..clearly the better team tonight! Would love to be 7-0..guess 6-1 is gonna have to do until the 16th. Getting ready for Keuka! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
4-1 with my picks today as only the Potsdam Bears failed to follow my crystal ball. (I love it when my alma mater proves me wrong.)
Stretched my record to 32-7 (82%) for the season.

The big game was a little more one sided than I expected but I didn't know the Bengals were going to catch a case of Turnoveritis. 16 turnovers in the first half alone including 7 in the 1st 7:24. It didn't take the Lakers long to grab a double digit lead. 7 more turnovers and the lead reached 20 at 44-24. Down 48-30 at the break, Buffalo St. needed something good to happen in the intial stages of the 2nd period. Unfortunately the lead quickly ballooned to 22 and the closest they could get was 14 points on several occasions. Largest lead of the game was 76-52 with 8:52 left to play. Bengals finished with 25 turnovers in all. It was however, a highly infectious case of turnoveritis, as the Lakers after being exposed to the disease promptly coughed up the ball 12 times in the second half themselves and finished with 19 in all. Hard to say whose FMOH (forty minutes of hell) was hotter. :D (Sorry BR,  I couldn't resist.) I'm pretty sure when thses two teams tangle again on the last weekend of the regular season and possibly again in the playoffs the score will be a lot closer. Every team has a bad game and the Bengals have now gotten theirs out of the way. Still think nobody's going to run the table this year and Cortland will have a say in this before it's over.
My fingers are getting tired so just a few notes. Hayden Ward for the 2nd game in a row led the Lakers with 22 pts. Chad Burridge was close behind with 19 pts and a team high 6 rebounds. Chris Gilkes had 18 points, Connor Monaghan had 11 points and Sean Michele added 9 pts, 7 assists and 4 steals. Starters played 158 out of the 200 minutes and scored 78 of the 85 points.

Burridge has put up Team of the Week numbers for his 3 games. 78 pts, 28 rebounds and 15 blocks. The fact that the SUNYAC has had back to back weeks with a player on the D3hoops Team of the Week will probably work against him, but he's certainly deserving and he's on my Team of the Week. ;D So is Ward as he averaged 18.6 per contest for this week's 3 games.

Buff State placed 3 players in double figures as Justin Mitchell, Nico Mclean and Anyar Majak all scored 12 points. Mitchell was the leading rebounder in the game with 11 boards.

Final score of 85-71  was only 4 points off my posted total points but it wasn't as evenly distributed as I guessed.

I had the Cortland-Fredonia game as a 2 pt difference and it was almost as close as the Red Dragons won by 4, 61-57. I was a little on the high side with my over/under though.

New Paltz whipping Oneonta 95-74 was way more points than I figured  and the Hawks MOV was quite a bit larger as well. At least I picked the winner.

Plattsburgh beating the Golden Eagles was probably my toughest pick to make, in part because of the injuries, but also the poor execution and defense I saw from the Cards on Friday night. The return of John Perez brought some life back to this team and Brockport certainly felt the loss of Kyheem Green. My prediction of 67-64 wasn't too far off and I did have 3 of the 4 digits correct in that 74-67 final. ;D

Potsdam beating Geneseo was my only loss but it was a pleasant surprise. Don't think anybody on God's Green Earth would have picked the Bears if they had seen the way the Blue Knights dismantled my Cards last night. Must be the Knights left it all on the floor of Memorial Hall. ;D I don't really mean that because that doesn't do the Bears justice. They have also been struggling lately and this was a good win for them over a Geneseo team that will pull off some more upsets as the season progresses. Poor Blue Knights couldn't buy a basket in overtime as they came up empty on their first eight attempts. Once the Bears got up by 6, 59-53 on a bucket and one by Tony Efese with 1:48 to play, and the Blue Knights missed again on their possession, Geneseo had to start the foul parade with 50 seconds left. The Bears Josh Lambert made 4 free throws in a row and Efese with 1 and Curtis Pierce with 2 more closed the door for good. The Knights hit their only points of the period on a triple by Andy Drescher with 20 seconds left. I guess in OT they caught Oneontaitis. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2011, 11:45:04 PM

Cortland never trailed in the opening period but dropped behnd Fredonfgia 37-33. J. Winter fueled 12-0 run with three threes and B. Manning capped the flourish with another trey. Corts pushed their advantage to 10. Late Freds rally drew within four. Winter's 20 points included 4x8 3s. Added seven assts and five rebs. Pivot D. Sternkopf 11 pts, 6 rebs, 4 blks; first time starter N. Sutedjo with five assts. RDragons still to hit offensive stride, 23x58fg, 7x22 3s. Winter quite the floor leader, among league's best IMHO. Does it all. Fine defense as well. Devils K. Mitchell 16 pts, 10 rebs; A. Billups 13 pts; J. Bryant 10 pts; D. Kashmer 11 rebs, 4 assts; J. Herrera 5 assts

New Paltz quickly extends three point halftime lead over Oneonta to win in a walk. M. Devine 36 pts(14x22fg, 6x10 3s) 7rebs in 36'; N. Taldi 16 pts(5x6fg, 2x3 3s) 6 assts; D. Olsen 10 rebs. Hawks 35x71fg. OSt gets 15 pts(6x12fg) from L. Slivinsky; F. Kelly 9 assts, 9 pts. Dragons 31x69

Oswego shoots 31x37 from the stripe, 25x50fg. Burridge with 5 blocks. Buff St's J. and N. Simmons each play 23', former with 8 pts(3x7fg, 0x2 3s), the latter 7 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 11, 2011, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 10, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
It was however, a highly infectious case of turnoveritis, as the Lakers after being exposed to the disease promptly coughed up the ball 12 times in the second half themselves and finished with 19 in all. Hard to say whose FMOH (forty minutes of hell) was hotter. :D (Sorry BR,  I couldn't resist.)

Nice 1 magicman...Nice 1!!! ;)  (Dont know how/when I'll get you back but BEWARE :) )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2011, 11:51:42 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 11, 2011, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 10, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
It was however, a highly infectious case of turnoveritis, as the Lakers after being exposed to the disease promptly coughed up the ball 12 times in the second half themselves and finished with 19 in all. Hard to say whose FMOH (forty minutes of hell) was hotter. :D (Sorry BR,  I couldn't resist.)

Nice 1 magicman...Nice 1!!! ;)  (Dont know how/when I'll get you back but BEWARE :) )

I thought you'd appreciate it! All in good fun. ;D  But I'll be watching my back! ( Which you were supposed to be covering, so I guess that's off the table now. ???)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 11, 2011, 03:28:09 PM
At the Semester break - here's my one liners

School Conf Overall
Oswego 5-0 8-1 – The Leader at the Quarter Pole, has won 22 of last 23 conference games
Cortland 4-1 7-2 – A force to be reckoned with
Buffalo State 3-1 6-1 – Oswego loss forces Bengals to regroup
New Paltz 2-2 4-5 - Devine the breakout individual so far
Plattsburgh 2-3 4-5 – Home loss to Geneseo hurts
Potsdam 2-3 4-5 – Two losses to early leaders
Brockport 1-2 2-7 – Green injury has conference-wide implications
Geneseo 1-2 2-7 – Snatched a road win at Plattsburgh
Fredonia 1-3 6-4 – Back to reality after fast non-conference start
Oneonta 0-4 1-8 – A work in progress
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 11, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
When the top 25 is released it will interesting to see if both Oswego and Buffalo State are in the poll. OR?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2011, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: bearnation on December 11, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
When the top 25 is released it will interesting to see if both Oswego and Buffalo State are in the poll. OR?

I think #14 Buffalo St. will slide down a few spots, but don't think #31 Oswego will climb more than 2 or 3 positions and will still be in the Others Receiving Votes category.  They may only move up 1 spot. Not enough teams ranked ahead of them lost last week. They'll climb over Hobart but the other team closest to them that lost was #26 Rhode Island College. RIC beat Oswego last year in the NCAA's to advance to the Sweet 16. Don't think the voters will drop RIC so far that Oswego will leapfrog over them. RIC's loss was only their 1st and earlier in the week they beat #15 WPI. Lakers will win their next game (against Cazenovia on Friday night) to go to 9-1 but are then off for 18 days and then face DI Texas-Pan-American in Texas, which will probably result in a loss. If they should somehow get lucky and beat the DI school they would certainly move into the Top 25 at the end of that week. Since no D3 school has beaten a DI school in all 18 attempts so far this year, Oswego's chances aren't too good. A number of my fellow pick 'em players do feel, however, that the best chance any D3 school has this year of beating a DI school is the Oswego vs Texas-Pan American match-up.  It took the Lakers with a 22-3 record until week #12 last year to crack the Top 25, coming in at #24. They then lost in the YAC tournament and promptly fell back to the #28 spot the following week. If Oswego can win their next 3 or 4 games against D3 competiton they may get into the Top 25 around week #9 which would come with games through January 22nd. Of course it could be sooner if there is some huge carnage among teams in the lower part of the Top 25 and the Lakers keep winning. But another D3 loss by Oswego and they will be lucky to make it by the end of the year. I'd love nothing better than to see both the Bengals and Lakers continue to pile up the wins. At least until January 20th for the Bengals and January 27th for the Lakers. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 11, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
Magic - I disagree.  I think Oswego's thumping of Buff State at Buff State will knock the Bengals out of the top 25.  Bengals have one quality wins, most of their record was built against weak sisters, losing to the first top team they played (Sorry dex) will not impress the voters.

Agree that Oswego may not crack the top 25, but will move up into the next 5.  Of course Buff State and Oswego could swap places given that the Bengals failed to protect the house in their first test of the year.

Amherst also lost, so that will knock them down a few notches.  Of course the single best win for the 'yac would be if your Cards were to triumph over Middlebury on 1/24, that would throw the rankings into tilt for sure.  I'm sure you are already working on that one.







Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2011, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 11, 2011, 08:40:09 PM
Magic - I disagree.  I think Oswego's thumping of Buff State at Buff State will knock the Bengals out of the top 25.  Bengals have one quality wins, most of their record was built against weak sisters, losing to the first top team they played (Sorry dex) will not impress the voters.

Agree that Oswego may not crack the top 25, but will move up into the next 5.  Of course Buff State and Oswego could swap places given that the Bengals failed to protect the house in their first test of the year.

Amherst also lost, so that will knock them down a few notches.  Of course the single best win for the 'yac would be if your Cards were to triumph over Middlebury on 1/24, that would throw the rankings into tilt for sure.  I'm sure you are already working on that one.

Bear,
I'm trying to stay positive with the Bengals. Usually a team that is ranked that far up won't fall out with just 1 loss. But you're right it could happen. Thing that could hurt the Bengals is that there are still a lot of undefeated teams across the country that haven't gotten a taste of the Top 25 and the voters may move a few of them up there to replace the teams that have lost. My thought processes were that the Bengals being a Sweet 16 team from a year ago might command a little more respect than say a Willie Patterson, Wheaton or WPI, all teams ranked below Buffalo State that also lost last week. Two of those teams didn't even dance last year and WPI won a 1st round game before exiting. There are currently 23 undefeated teams left in D3. Ten of those teams are ranked in the Top 25. 7 more are in the ORV category. That leaves 6 teams that are undefeated that haven't received a mention yet. If all 7 in the ORV category move into the Top 25 then Buffalo St might drop out but I think only C-M-S and Transy move up that high.

I wish the Cards could do the entire YAC a favor and knock off the Panthers but it will take a tremendous effort to do so. Plus we're over there this year. Middlebury's All American Ryan Sharry is the real deal. I've seen him play in person the last 3 years, and after watching him as a sophomore, went on the NESCAC board and proclaimed that he would become an AA. He was injured for their first 5 games this year and returned against J&W on December 6th, with 16 pts in 17 minutes. His 2nd game back on Friday over at Skidmore he had 24 pts, 14 boards, 4 steals, and 4 blocks in 33 minutes. Great inside game and good shooter, even from the arc. They have 3 outstanding guards and Jeff Brown is a fine coach. We would need a perfect storm to win that game. I've already made plans to attend that one. We've played them tough for the last 4 years but are only 1-3 in those games. But as you said, on any given night. Hope I'm wrong and the voters reward Oswego for their big road win. Also hope Burridge gets Team of the Week, but I think you have to play for the Hawks to get that. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2011, 07:54:47 AM
New Top 25  teams is out and SUNYAC once again has 2 teams in the rankings. Buffalo St. as expected took a tumble but only fell to the 21st spot as the point total dropped from 241 down to 85. Oswego St. moved up into the 24th spot as their point total grew from 29 to 75

I was right .on with my assessment of the Bengals as Willie Patterson and Wheaton were dropped from the polls while Stevens Point stayed below the Bengals in the 25th spot. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps  moved into the ranking as I expected at #22 but undefeated Translyvania didn't gain any more votes than they had last week.

The Lakers jumping back into the poll was a pleasant surprise. I love it when I'm wrong about things like that. ;D Oswego jumped over 7 teams to get to their #24 spot including Rhode Island College, Stevens Point and an undefeated Edgewood team.

Rochester also remained in the Top 25 moving up 1 spot from #24 to # 23 even though their point total dropped by 21, from 103 down to 82.

Hobart and Hartwick were the only other East region schools to garner any votes as the Statesmen fell from 34 points down to 5 and the Hawks actually lost points, going from 4 down to 1 despite remaining undefeated. 

Here's the link to the poll:   http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2011-12/week3 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2011, 01:02:34 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 11, 2011, 09:38:18 PM
Bear,
I'm trying to stay positive with the Bengals.

Thanks for the "Positive" VOTE of confidence Magicman! I may have to send you something nice around...Feb 2nd! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2011, 01:31:35 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 10, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
Welcome Back dex.  Dragons certainly have beefed up the front line, I do want to see film of any contest between 6-8 285 Max Brown and Bengals 6-8 285 Seth Runge, Hopefully the floor won't buckle under the pressure.

Seth Runge going over Max Brown last Friday in the BENGALS vs. Cortland contest. I'm happy to report that the floor held up however if you closely at the picture it appears to be a "slight" depression in the floor underneath the 2 behemoths! :D

http://buffalostatebengalhoopfans.shutterfly.com/pictures/554#534

This is the closest that I can get any "film" to you bear!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 13, 2011, 03:37:18 PM
Still waiting on permission to view the Shutterfly site, but, the Offensive Line coaches at both schools should be drooling.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2011, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 13, 2011, 03:37:18 PM
Still waiting on permission to view the Shutterfly site, but, the Offensive Line coaches at both schools should be drooling.

And I as well. Left a message on the Shutterfly site that said: I haven't asked anyone for permission in 46 years, not even my wife. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 14, 2011, 12:49:15 AM
Magic - got your wish, two top 25 teams, and Burridge on team of the week. 

Buff State needs to stop scheduling early season cupcakes and play UAA teams like Rochester, NYU , Case Western, & Carnegie Mellon (all In-region), instead of the D'youville's, Pitt Bradford's & Keuka's of the world.  Although I will admit Bengals knocking off Wesleyan (9-1)and Catholic (9-0) in the New Years tourney would be a nice double play, and I will be rooting hard for my dad's Alma Mater (BSC '50).

In fact most of SUNYAC needs to up the pressure and win some games against better competition in the pre-conference season if we are to get appropriate respect during the conference season, where invariably anyone can beat anyone on a given night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2011, 06:33:19 AM
Quote from: thebear on December 14, 2011, 12:49:15 AM
Magic - got your wish, two top 25 teams, and Burridge on team of the week. 

Buff State needs to stop scheduling early season cupcakes and play UAA teams like Rochester, NYU , Case Western, & Carnegie Mellon (all In-region), instead of the D'youville's, Pitt Bradford's & Keuka's of the world.  Although I will admit Bengals knocking off Wesleyan (9-1)and Catholic (9-0) in the New Years tourney would be a nice double play, and I will be rooting hard for my dad's Alma Mater (BSC '50).

In fact most of SUNYAC needs to up the pressure and win some games against better competition in the pre-conference season if we are to get appropriate respect during the conference season, where invariably anyone can beat anyone on a given night.

Chad Burridge making the D3hoops Team of the Week was icing on the cake after both YAC teams stayed and made the Top 25. 8-) Hard to find a more deserving player. His work week was awesome, especially the Brockport game. He almost had a double double in each half. Won't see that too often this year by anyone. And Brockport was at full strength for that game as AC performer Green played in that contest. (10 pts, 9 rebounds) Nice to see a YAC player on the Team of the Week for the last 3 weeks. Our streak will probably end this week due to the light schedule.

Agree that there are a few cupcakes on the Bengals schedule. Not sure they'll ever schedule NYU (400 mile trip) or Carnegie Mellon (4 hour trip). Case Western is doable (3 hr ) as is RIT, Naz, Fisher, Medaille, even Hamilton (3 hrs).

Oswego also with a couple of gimme's as they have Cazenovia and 0-10 Cobleskill (who lost to Keuka by 20).

If I had to rank the teams by strength of schedule for their non-conference opponents it would look like this:

1.   Plattsburgh
2.   Brockport
3.   Oneonta
4.   New Paltz
5.   Potsdam
6.   Cortland
7.   Geneseo
8.   Fredonia
9.   Oswego
10  Buffalo St.

Overall though I think the conference has less cupcakes in non-conference play than a good many of the other conferences in D3. We both know of certain schools that load up on cupcakes year after year to get those 20 wins. Hard to do in the YAC with our double round robin. But agree we need to up the pressure and win more of those OOC games. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2011, 05:33:07 AM
Chad Burridge completed a triple crown week as he was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. In addition to this award Chad made the D3hoops Team of the week at the F/C position. His final weekly award was the ECAC Upstate Player of the Week. Congratulations to Chad. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 06:42:35 AM
Only 2 teams in action tonight

Keuka at Buffalo St.   8 PM

Pretty much fodder for the Bengals in their opening game of the Coles Classic. Only question is will the Bengals break the century mark. The 1-6 Storm have given up 94 pts to Hilbert and 90 pts to Clarkson. Point spread has them favored by 26. Only way Buff St doesn't score a hundred is if the coach calls off the dogs. I think he will, because they'll have a tougher game on Sat. Bengals will almost certainly face Capital in the championship contest on Saturday afternoon at 4 PM. Capital takes on Morrisville in the first game tonight at 6 PM. Bengals romp in this one 95-67.


Cazenovia  at Oswego St.  8 PM

The Wildcats from Cazenovia shoudn't be much of an obstacle for Oswego as they enter tonight's contest with a 3-6 record. The oddsmakers have the Lakers listed as a 22 point favorite. The Wildcats 3 wins have come against 0-10 Baptist Bible, Davis College,(a school that plays jv teams, community colleges and small bible schools) and 0-7 SUNY-ESF a club team that plays anybody they can get a game with. Not what you would call signature wins. Notice I said shouldn't be much of an obstacle. This game may be this year's version of last year's Cobleskill game. Lakers should have won that game by 25+ but needed a last second basket by Burridge to avoid the upset of the year. Certainly hope his heroics aren't needed this year against the Wildcats, but this team did play 6-1 Hobart tough and only lost 82-76. They scored more points against the Statesmen than any team Hobart has played all year, including Rochester, Brockport, Nazareth, Fisher and Ithaca. They also hung with Wells only losing 77-71, and Wells took the Lakers to the limit before falling 58-55. Fresh off a big SUNYAC weekend, that saw the team capture sole possession of first place in the conference, a return to the Top 25 Poll, and a bunch of individual awards for their ace, this game has the word TRAP, written all over it. Having said that I'm picking the Lakers to win 85-60.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 16, 2011, 09:27:42 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 16, 2011, 06:42:35 AM
Only 2 teams in action tonight

Keuka at Buffalo St.   8 PM

Pretty much fodder for the Bengals in their opening game of the Coles Classic. Only question is will the Bengals break the century mark. The 1-6 Storm have given up 94 pts to Hilbert and 90 pts to Clarkson. Point spread has then favored by 26. Only way Buff St doesn't score a hundred is if the coach calls off the dogs. I think he will, because they'll have a tougher game on Sat. Bengals will almost certainly face Capital in the championship contest on Saturday afternoon at 4 PM. Capital takes on Morrisville in the first game tonight at 6 PM. Bengals romp in this one 95-67.


Cazenovia  at Oswego St.  8 PM

The Wildcats from Cazenovia shoudn't be much of an obstacle for Oswego as they enter tonight's contest with a 3-6 record. The oddsmakers have the Lakers listed as a 22 point favorite. The Wildcats 3 wins have come against 0-10 Baptist Bible, Davis College,(a school that plays jv teams, community colleges and small bible schools) and 0-7 SUNY-ESF a club team that plays anybody they can get a game with. Not what you would call signature wins. Notice I said shouldn't be much of an obstacle. This game may be this year's version of last year's Cobleskill game. Lakers should have won that game by 25+ but needed a last second basket by Burridge to avoid the upset of the year. Certainly hope his heroics aren't needed this year against the Wildcats, but this team did play 6-1 Hobart tough and only lost 82-76. They scored more points against the Statesmen than any team Hobart has played all year, including Rochester, Brockport, Nazareth, Fisher and Ithaca. They also hung with Wells only losing 77-71, and Wells took the Lakers to the limit before falling 58-55. Fresh off a big SUNYAC weekend, that saw the team capture sole possession of first place in the conference, a return to the Top 25 Poll, and a bunch of individual awards for their ace, this game has the word TRAP, written all over it. Having said that I'm picking the Lakers to win 85-60.   

From what I saw of Caz in Hobart's OT win, the only way Caz stays with the Lakers is if Oswego forgets to guard the 3.  Caz has some decent shooters that can get hot.  But they don't play much defense and don't have a significant back to the basket player.  They may keep it close for a while, and who knows, maybe Caz shoots 80% from behind the line, but I think your margin is pretty acurate.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 16, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
In that Clarkson Keuka game, Felix Llanos, Clarkson's talented shooting guard lit it up for 46.  I think he had 12 treys if I recall.  If Llanos can hit for 46, just think what Jake Simmons might be capable of.

Oswego should handle Caz pretty easily.  Besides Burridge & Ward (who may be just as good as Burridge) & Gilkes, who can post anyone up, they also have Andy Falvey coming off the bench, and Falvey is 6-8 230 , a highly regarded player in HS, who is stuck behind two of the region's best for playing time.

I think after their convincing win at Buff State, the Lakers know they control their own destiny, and will be focused from here on out.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 16, 2011, 01:32:44 PM
Magic

According to Augie Fan's Strength of Schedule the pecking order in the 'yac to date is

131   Brockport State
140   Oneonta State
203   New Paltz State
231   Geneseo State
252   Plattsburgh State
273   Potsdam State
294   Cortland State
305   Oswego State
319   Fredonia State
336   Buffalo State

I know this will change with Holiday tournaments and the Like, but so far the Bengals are in the running for the weakest non-conference schedule.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 16, 2011, 02:21:08 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 16, 2011, 01:32:44 PM

I know this will change with Holiday tournaments and the Like, but so far the Bengals are in the running for the weakest non-conference schedule.

  "CHANGE"......Hopefully my BELOVED BENGALS are successful after their 2 dec tourneys which involve -This weekend -Capital (out of the OAC which includes #9 ranked Marietta and Baldwin Wallace , which recently beat Marietta) and the Catholic U tourney 12/31--1/1 in which the BENGALS open againest 9-1 Wesleyan ( out of the NESCAC which has 3 schools ranked in the D3Hoops top 7 - #1 Middlebury #6 Amherst, and #7 Williams). If successful againest Wesleyan then the championship should be BSC vs. 9-0 Catholic U.
  Maybe we will see the team "currently" ranked 10th in S.O.S. climb to first in less than 3 weeks.
Who knows??? ???

P.s. Magicman... I agree with your predictions 100% ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 02:52:54 PM
Bear and Bengalsrule,

When I did my rankings I didn't base them on who's played who so far. I did it based on games played and games to be played. The pecking order of my list won't change. The Bengals and the Lakers will be at the bottom and the Cards will be at the top. I looked at everybody's complete non-conference schedule and made my decisions based on what I know, what I thought would happen in tournaments over the holidays, and games that will take place next semester. (e.g. Plattsburgh facing Middlebury, who will still be a Top 10 team even if they lose before the Plattsburgh contest in late Jan.) I didn't look at computer rankings since they're in a constant state of flux and can be misleading at certain points of the season. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 08:50:22 PM
Oswego State leads Cazenovia 34-30 at the half. Back and forth 1st period as the teams traded baskets for the initial 13 minutes of the game. There were 5 ties and 11 lead changes until Oswego, down 23-21, outscored the Storm 13-7 over the final 7 minutes of the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 09:01:53 PM
Buffalo State well on their way to the century mark as they lead Keuka 55-37 at the break. Coach Ansari started emptying the bench early as 14 players have already seen action and 10 guys have broken into the scoring column. Keuka Storm doesn't have enough rain to douse the fires of Forty Minutes of Hell,  as they have 14 turnovers in the 1st half. Bengals largest lead of the half was 23 points at 55-32. Only 2 players have double digit minutes in the 1st half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
Oswego asserting themselves and open up a 70-49 advantage over Cazenovia with 5 minutes to go.

Buffalo State closing in on the century mark which is a foregone conclusion as they lead Keuka 86-59 with 8:31 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
#24 Oswego State improves to 9-1 with a 2nd half surge that carries them over Cazenovia 83-55. Nearly everyone gets into the act as 10 players score and average double minutes. Hayden Ward with 16, Chad Burridge with 15, Sean Michele with 14 and Chris Gilkes with 12 to power the Lakers.

Lakers now off until their trip to Texas to take on DI Texas-Pan American on January 3rd.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
#21 Buffalo State called off the dogs and still managed to break the century mark as they down Keuka 108-78. Bengals were led by Roderick Epps with 20 pts, Jake Simmons with 17, Maurice Miles with 15, and Nico McLean with 10. Bengals improve to 7-1 and will take on the Capital Crusaders tomorrow afternoon at 4 PM in the championship game of the Coles Classic. Capital defeated Morrisville State earlier today 77-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2011, 10:20:18 PM
No great feat picking the winners of tonight's game. My dog could have done that. The only real challenge was trying to pick the score. I came a little closer with my Oswego guess as The Lakers only missed my posted total by 2 pts as I had them getting 85 when they only scored 83. I'm blaming that on Hayden Ward as he only went 8x10 from the line. ::) Sorry Hayden, but you were the only guy that missed 2 free throws. Most anybody else missed was 1. ;D Keuka almost got to the 60 I gave them but got stuck on 55 when they missed their last few shots and didn't score in the last 2:37 of the game. They opted not to foul and Oswego opted to run the shot clock. Pretty happy with my guess though.

Buffalo State subs had a field day against the Storm and the hundred point boundry was bound to be breached. I initially had the score at 106-71 but changed my mind thinking the regulars wouldn't play much because of the game tomorrow against expected foe Capital. I was right on both of those counts. Regulars didn't play a ton and they will face Capital. The bench players wanted to shine in the eye of the Storm. Bengals subs outscored Jake and the gang 66-42. My margin of victory was right there though as I had them winning by 28 and they won by 30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 17, 2011, 12:39:30 PM

Cortland 50, SUNIT 27  through a half .....RDragons' shooting eyes finally breaking out ......19x37fg ....10x20 3s led by J. Smith, J. Winter.  ......Corts without 6-9 Sternkopf ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2011, 12:49:11 PM
Games on tap for today:

SUNYIT at Cortland   2 PM

Red Dragons should be able to handle a Wildcats team that has struggled this year. Pointspread has Cortland favored by 15 and that may be too little. SUNYIT only 1-5, is giving up a lot of points and the teams they've lost to aren't as good as Cortland. Only bright spot for the Wildcats so far this year is a win against city rival Utica College. Think this one will be 92-60, Red Dragons.


Capital at Buffalo State  4 PM

This should be a better test for the Bengals than yesterday's romp in the park. Capital comes into this game with an overall 5-4 record and a 2-2 slate in the tough Ohio Athletic Conference. Their 2 wins have come against the bottom feeders in the conference while both losses have come against some upper division contenders.  Oddsmakers have favored Buffalo State by 9 points. I think that's where it should be. Bengals win this one 83-74.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
Wow! I missed something. As I was typing and cyphering, jdex was posting a halftime score on the Cortland game that I didn't think started until 2 PM. Time for a new pair of glasses, I swore I saw 2 PM for the start time. Although my brain may have overridden my eyes since a 12 noon start is unusual for a YAC team.  At least the Red Dragons are winning handily. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 17, 2011, 01:37:48 PM

Magic, so you had a headstart ......your reputation allows this one ......

And at the finish ....Cortland 93, SUNYIT 63. No problem for RDragons, who are capable of such shooting but hadn't come close till this one. Over early. And this was a game that gave me pause. Despite IT's 1-5 record coming in including a 102-98 win over Utica most recently, IT had fallen to Clark, Bridgewater, Medaille, Union and Hamilton. Easy pickins today. Corts J. Smith 17 pts (15 at half) on 7x14fg, 6 assts; J. Winter 14 pts(6x14fg) 8 assts; B. Manning 14 pts(5x10fg, 4x8 3s). All 13 CSters score and Dragons with 27 assists, just 11 Trnvrs to IT's 20 (most early). Cortland 34x73fg and bigtime from beyond the arc. IT's T. Richardson 20 pts(8x17fg) 6 rebs; D. Rowe 16 pts(10x11ft). Corts idle till hosting Naz on Jan. 4. IT in Tampa after Christmas
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2011, 04:42:20 PM
Buffalo State in a close affair with Capital is down by 3 at the half 32-29. There were 7 ties and 9 lead changes with the Bengals holding their largest lead at 17-10 and the Crusaders held their largest lead at 22-17 as they had a 12-0 run to erase the Bengal advantage. Tied at 29 a hoop and harm by Capital with 1:13 left in the half provided the difference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2011, 05:52:05 PM
Buffalo St. and Capital in overtime and the Bengals lead 81-78 with 8.9 seconds left to play. Capital calls a time out and will inbound the ball under the Bengals basket. They need a three and fire one up with 1 second to go but it doesn't fall and the Bengals escape with the win. Huge sigh of relief from BengalsRule.  Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
I expected a close game between Buffalo State and Capital but didn't anticipate an extra session. Bengals were down 34-32 early in the 2nd when Jake Simmons explodes for 9 consecutive points in a minute and 27 seconds to put the Bengals up 41-34. Justin Mitchell then converted a pair of free throws to extend the lead to 9, Buff State's largest of the game. The teams exchanged baskets and then the Crusaders scored 7 unanswered points to pull within 2 at 45-43. Bengals go up by 7 at 50-43, only to have Capital respond with a 14-4 run to regain the lead at 57-54 with 7:17 to play. Three more lead changes and 2 more ties would occur when the Bengals Ahmed Nagaya hits a layup with 37 ticks left to put Buff St up 68-66. Following a time out the Crusaders tied it up with a jumper at :23 and the Bengals Nico McLean missed a 3 point attempt at the buzzer. The extra session began with a Capital miss, offensive rebound, another miss and the Bengals were off and running. Jake Simmons drove and scored and Buffalo St was never headed. Outscoring the Crusaders 9-1, they opened up an 8 point lead at 77-69 with 2:47 remaining. Key play was a nice inbounds pass by Nico McLean from underneath the Bengal basket to a leaping Ahmed Nagaya just in front of the hoop. Nagaya caught and shot while in the air, was fouled on the play and he made the free throw. Capital didn't quit however and with 40 seconds to go Crusader's Tim Congrove stole the ball (although it looked like McLean got mugged) and coasted in for an uncontested layup that narrowed the gap to a single possession. Bengals hit just enough free throws down the stretch to pull it out, 81-78.

Bengals were led by Jake Simmons with 24 points (10x21 fg, 2x8 3's, 2x5 ft). Justin Mitchell had his 3rd double double in the past 4 games as he totaled 18 pts (7x16 fg, 4x7 ft) and 11 rebounds. Ahmed Nagaya had his 3rd double double of the season with 15 pts (7x13 fg, 1x2 ft) and 10 boards. Nico McLean had 10 points, all coming from the charity stripe. Norman Simmons had a solid game with 4 pts, 7 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 steals. Bengals vaunted bench didn't see a lot of action, as Buffalo St. starters played Oswego State minutes.  37,37,37,38 and 28 were the minutes played by the starting five. Buff St. shot 27x69 from the field (39.1%), only 2x13 from the arc (13.1%) and 25x38 from the stripe (65.8%). They committed 14 turnovers to 21 for Capital but were outrebounded 52 to 44.

Capital was led by Spencer Niekamp with 22 pts (8x14 fg, 3x6 3's, 3x4 ft). Keely winter had 16 pts and Ben Danhoff added 10. Crusaders shot 29x75 from the field (38.7%), worse than the Bengals from the arc, 3x23 (13.0%), and 17x23 from the line (73.9%).

Bengals go to 8-1 and will be off until December 31st when they take on Wesleyan at 6 PM in Catholic University's Residence Inn Greenbelt Classic Holiday Tournament.

I almost had the correct score as I predicted an 83-74 final. My posted total of 157 pts was only 2 off the 159  that was scored.

Jdex, no head start on the Cortland game, as I never knew it was going on until after I posted. ;D Did have a pretty good MOV in that one as my 32 point prediction was only 2 off the money. My total only missed by 4 pts. 152 to an actual 156. Had I seen that halftime score ahead of time I would have predicted 110-58. ;)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2011, 11:04:05 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 17, 2011, 05:52:05 PM
Huge sigh of relief from BengalsRule.  Details to follow.

    Hugh sigh indeed my friend!!!  Alot of energy was expended last night by my beloved BENGALS. Kudos to a scrappy Capital squad that really took it to us for a good portion of the game. They outrebounded us, scored more fast break and 2nd chance points abd basically made life miserable for ther Black and Orange.. Fortunatly  the BENGAL starters got much need rest Friday because Capital made them earn every min Sat. Thank goodness for Ahmed Nagaya's layup with 38 secs left in reg and his "hoop and a harm" (I love that phrase) in OT!

I was surprised by the number of fans that made the journey from Columbus Ohio to support thier team!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2011, 06:30:23 AM

A side story that has nothing to do with Bball or the YAC. Tonight was the final episode of CBS's Survivor: South Pacific. Normally I don't pay much attention to TV reality shows but a local girl, Sophie Clark from Willsboro, NY, was a contestant on this particular edition of Survivor. Willsboro is a very small town (population less than 2000) about 25 miles south of Plattsburgh. Sophie and her twin sisters had rented band instruments from my store over the years when they were in the school band. Tonight Sophie was the $1,000,000 winner of Survivor. A medical student, who graduated from Middlebury College, Sophie was valedictorian of her high school, as well as MVP of her soccer team and league her final year of high school. She recently spent a year in Africa as a member of a USA foreign aid program. I remember several months ago when I first learned she would be a contestant, I mentioned to my wife that I thought she would have a chance to win it. Didn't think she would win, but figured because of her athletic ability her fellow tribe members would be less likely to vote her off. Her mental ability was also quite beneficial, as she won the final challenge (figuring out how to put a puzzle together in the fastest time) and received immunity when the final vote to eliminate someone took place. The entire area will be buzzing tomorrow I'm sure. 8-)         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2011, 12:42:49 PM
Here's a link to the article in the Plattsburgh Press Republican about Sophie Clark winning the Survivor Reality Show.

http://pressrepublican.com/0100_news/x1181958057/Willsboro-Native-the-ultimate-Survivor
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
magicman...Sounds like "Johnnys Family  Smokehouse and Sportsbar " in Willsboro is the place to be this Weds. night. Be sure you have a designated driver ;).

Congrats to Sophie and chalk another 1 up for NY State! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2011, 03:00:26 PM
News out of Potsdam today announcing that former Potsdam great and All American, Mike Deane will be inducted into the New York State Basketball Hall of Fame. May have to get some Plattsburgh boys together and make a trip to Glens Falls to attend the ceremony in March. Here's the write up from the Bears website:

GLENS FALLS, N.Y.—The Basketball Coaches Association of New York has announced that former SUNY Potsdam All-American basketball player Mike Deane '74 has been selected for induction into the New York State Basketball Hall of Fame. Deane will be inducted with nine other members of the 2012 class on March 18.

As a player, Deane was one of the finest to ever don a Bears uniform. His 18.1 points-per-game average over three seasons is the highest in the history of the program. Deane is also Potsdam's career assist leader with 805 and he ranks sixth all-time with in scoring with 1,447 points in 80 games. As a senior in 1974, Deane was named the first of 13 Bears' basketball All-Americans. The Stony Point, N.Y. native was inducted into the Bears Hall of Fame in 1984.

After Potsdam, Deane served as a college head coach at Oswego State, Siena, Marquette, Lamar, and Wagner. In 26 seasons from 1980-2010, Deane amassed a 437-332 coaching record. His teams made four National Invitational Tournament appearances, including the championship game with Marquette in 1994, and four NCAA Tournament appearances.

The induction ceremony will take place at 10 a.m. in Heritage Hall at the Glens Falls Civic Center during the Federation State Tournament.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 20, 2011, 05:57:40 PM

Ahhhh, Mike Deane. A great one. Honor's long overdue. Saw him several times disappoint the RDragons. And always the Cortland connection. Roommate at Potsdam......Bob Haggerty of Cortland, for sure a M. Deane booster! Works(ed) in Albany polictical circles. No doubt kept in close touch (and beyond) when at Siena.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2011, 07:44:10 PM
  Just got this from a coach at Buff State. They are looking for 1 and possibly 2 games for the upcoming season (late Nov/early Dec). If any of you guys know of a non-Sunyac school looking to come to beautiful Western new york (BENGALS would return the favor, if need be, the following season) let me know!
  I know the BENGALS have already posted in the upcoming games section of D3Hoops but I know that there are those of you that wish the BENGALS schedule was tougher. Reach out and touch some teams and see what they say! ;)

P. S. Congrats to Mike Deane!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 20, 2011, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2011, 07:44:10 PM
  Just got this from a coach at Buff State. They are looking for 1 and possibly 2 games for the upcoming season (late Nov/early Dec). If any of you guys know of a non-Sunyac school looking to come to beautiful Western new york (BENGALS would return the favor, if need be, the following season) let me know!
  I know the BENGALS have already posted in the upcoming games section of D3Hoops but I know that there are those of you that wish the BENGALS schedule was tougher. Reach out and touch some teams and see what they say! ;)

P. S. Congrats to Mike Deane!!

They should check with U of R to see about one of their early tournaments.  Unless Buff State only wants to stay at home.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2011, 08:03:55 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 20, 2011, 05:57:40 PM

Ahhhh, Mike Deane. A great one. Honor's long overdue. Saw him several times disappoint the RDragons. And always the Cortland connection. Roommate at Potsdam......Bob Haggerty of Cortland, for sure a M. Deane booster! Works(ed) in Albany polictical circles. No doubt kept in close touch (and beyond) when at Siena.


jdex,
You are correct, the honor's lonnngg overdue. Not many could see the floor (and I mean the entire floor ;D) like Mike. His lifetime average of a double double in points and assists should have been enough to get him in the Hall even without his outstanding resume as a coach. Saw him play in countless games while he was at Potsdam. Even when I left Potsdam and moved to Watertown, I would still go back and see him play. He was always worth the trip. Was drafted and almost made the Milwaukee Bucks that fall after his graduation. He continued to come to Plattsburgh for many years (into his 40's) and play in the annual semi-pro tournament that the local police dept. put on right after the NCAA tourney was over. Always brought with him some stars of his Siena teams and they didn't always win the tournament (although they won their share) but were always in the final game. Hal Cohen from SU (whose daughter currently stars for the Cortland Women) would show up with a few of his treammates as well. Team out of Utica always came and brought some ringers also. Andre McCarter All American from UCLA came with the Utica team one year. Deane had some of his players, a couple of UVM boys and Union's all time leading scorer, Joe Cardany. Cardany had McCarter for lunch, Deane's team won the championship and Joe was the MVP. Those sure were good times.  8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
The new Top 25 Poll is out and Oswego and Buffalo St are continuing to represent the SUNYAC in the rankings. Oswego increased their vote total from last week by 25 points and moved up 1 placement to the #23 spot. Buffalo State, despite winning 2 games and increasing their vote total by 11 points fell 3 places to the #24 spot. Stevens Point with victories over two undefeated teams in a 5 day stretch went from #25 to #18.  Oswego with 1 win last week and idle Claremont-Mudd-Scripps also skipped over the Bengals. Oswego also hopped over Rochester as the Yellowjackets fell to the 25th position. Rochester was the only one of the 3 ranked New York State schools to actually lose points as they went from 82 down to 78. Hartwick and Hobart continue to come in the tail end of the ORV category each getting a single point.

Interesting to note that not a single team dropped out of the polls this week. This was no doubt, due to a limited number of games being played by teams in the Top 25, as 11 of the ranked teams were idle. Only 3 ranked teams suffered a loss and while those 3 tumbled a bit they were all fairly high in the standings at the time of their loss. They were #9 Marietta, who fell to #20, #13 UW-Whitewater who dropped to #16, and #16 Birmingham-Southern who slipped to #22. This was only the fourth time in the past six and a half years that no Top 25 team has dropped out of the poll. Only once since November of 2005 has the poll remained stable during the break that takes place at this time of year. That occured for the week ending December 21st, 2008. The other two instances were the weeks ending January 24, 2010 and February 6, 2011.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 21, 2011, 12:04:50 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 20, 2011, 08:03:55 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 20, 2011, 05:57:40 PM

Ahhhh, Mike Deane. A great one. Honor's long overdue. Saw him several times disappoint the RDragons. And always the Cortland connection. Roommate at Potsdam......Bob Haggerty of Cortland, for sure a M. Deane booster! Works(ed) in Albany polictical circles. No doubt kept in close touch (and beyond) when at Siena.


jdex,
You are correct, the honor's lonnngg overdue. Not many could see the floor (and I mean the entire floor ;D) like Mike. His lifetime average of a double double in points and assists should have been enough to get him in the Hall even without his outstanding resume as a coach. Saw him play in countless games while he was at Potsdam. Even when I left Potsdam and moved to Watertown, I would still go back and see him play. He was always worth the trip. Was drafted and almost made the Milwaukee Bucks that fall after his graduation. He continued to come to Plattsburgh for many years (into his 40's) and play in the annual semi-pro tournament that the local police dept. put on right after the NCAA tourney was over. Always brought with him some stars of his Siena teams and they didn't always win the tournament (although they won their share) but were always in the final game. Hal Cohen from SU (whose daughter currently stars for the Cortland Women) would show up with a few of his treammates as well. Team out of Utica always came and brought some ringers also. Andre McCarter All American from UCLA came with the Utica team one year. Deane had some of his players, a couple of UVM boys and Union's all time leading scorer, Joe Cardany. Cardany had McCarter for lunch, Deane's team won the championship and Joe was the MVP. Those sure were good times.  8-)

I lived with Mike for his last year and a half at Potsdam.  Deane's exploits in the PBA and in the Patrick's tournament in Glens Falls were legendary, but you do forget his partner in crime, Mr. Ted Bence, who was brought along to set picks, play defense, rebound, and convert many of Deane's pinpoint passes off the out of bounds play.  Point guards always need someone to convert those passes into scores, and the big feller from Watertown did that with surprising success.  I especially remember a game where Deane & the boys (I think they may have been playing for Brodies) faced off against a Patrick's squad that featured Larry Fogle and Jim Town.

I will be in my old stomping grounds of Glens Falls on 3/18 for sure, will be a special day.  I think Mike is the third Potsdam Bear to go into the Coaches' Hall of Fame, (Jerry Welsh & Bill Merna precede him) and Bishop Ludden's Pat Donnelly shouldn't be far behind.
Also -dex, Stan Cohen, between his many years at the JUCO level, where he produced a couple of ABA players, and then his nearly four decades at Potsdam, is more than worthy of consideration as well.

Thanks for the memories Magic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2011, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on December 20, 2011, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2011, 07:44:10 PM
  Just got this from a coach at Buff State. They are looking for 1 and possibly 2 games for the upcoming season (late Nov/early Dec). If any of you guys know of a non-Sunyac school looking to come to beautiful Western new york (BENGALS would return the favor, if need be, the following season) let me know!
  I know the BENGALS have already posted in the upcoming games section of D3Hoops but I know that there are those of you that wish the BENGALS schedule was tougher. Reach out and touch some teams and see what they say! ;)

P. S. Congrats to Mike Deane!!

They should check with U of R to see about one of their early tournaments.  Unless Buff State only wants to stay at home.

An email has been sent to U of R. Assistant coach Ryan Mee, asking about the possibilty of a game in next season in late Nov/Early Dec (and even a home/away over the next 2 years). If you have any contacts at U of R then maybe you would like to follow up! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 21, 2011, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2011, 09:58:21 AM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on December 20, 2011, 08:01:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2011, 07:44:10 PM
  Just got this from a coach at Buff State. They are looking for 1 and possibly 2 games for the upcoming season (late Nov/early Dec). If any of you guys know of a non-Sunyac school looking to come to beautiful Western new york (BENGALS would return the favor, if need be, the following season) let me know!
  I know the BENGALS have already posted in the upcoming games section of D3Hoops but I know that there are those of you that wish the BENGALS schedule was tougher. Reach out and touch some teams and see what they say! ;)

P. S. Congrats to Mike Deane!!

They should check with U of R to see about one of their early tournaments.  Unless Buff State only wants to stay at home.

An email has been sent to U of R. Assistant coach Ryan Mee, asking about the possibilty of a game in next season in late Nov/Early Dec (and even a home/away over the next 2 years). If you have any contacts at U of R then maybe you would like to follow up! ;)

My contact graduated in May.  And other than Smalls, the coaches are different than the ones that recruited him.  Although, he played with Jeff Juron and Luke Flockerzi was his recruiter but he left for Skidmore before my son's freshman year.  Sorry.  But I think it would be great for the two teams to play annually.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2011, 01:51:54 PM
No problem. U of R coach has gotten back to me with an offer to play in their tourney but no visit to Buffalo Ny the following year. That aint working!!!!!! :o

Thanks to magicman there is a conversation going on  between the BENGALS staff and the Hamilton staff that appears to be gaining momentum.

P.s. Thanks magicman!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 22, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2011, 01:51:54 PM
No problem. U of R coach has gotten back to me with an offer to play in their tourney but no visit to Buffalo Ny the following year. That aint working!!!!!! :o

Thanks to magicman there is a conversation going on  between the BENGALS staff and the Hamilton staff that appears to be gaining momentum.

P.s. Thanks magicman!!!!!!! ;)

Too bad.  Both tournaments usually have pretty good competition. Well, given their travel demands, I don't really blame them for staying home.   Don't they pay for lodging and food?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2011, 05:28:52 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2011, 01:51:54 PM
No problem. U of R coach has gotten back to me with an offer to play in their tourney but no visit to Buffalo Ny the following year. That aint working!!!!!! :o

Thanks to magicman there is a conversation going on  between the BENGALS staff and the Hamilton staff that appears to be gaining momentum.

P.s. Thanks magicman!!!!!!! ;)

Well I hope a Buffalo State-Hamilton matchup works out. Glad I could be of assistance. It's 191 miles from campus to campus which equates to a 3 hour bus ride. We do those all the time in the YAC while Hamilton does likewise in the NESCAC and did so when they were in the Liberty League. Plus if you're going to play in their tournament one year and they return the favor the next year by playing in yours, both teams end up with two games in two days, so it becomes an overnighter. If you just play a single alternating home game over the next 2 years it's still not to far for a day trip. The Continentals, with only 10 league games, have lots of room on their schedule for OOC opponents. Buff State, with only 7 OOC games, will gain by replacing Keuka or D'Youville with a program of Hamilton's reputation. It will certainly help both schools in the strength of schedule rating and the regional rankings. Of course it will help the winner more than the loser. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 23, 2011, 02:57:17 AM
Congrats to Mike Deane, maybe after he goes into the NYS Hall of Fame we can get him to come back north and become the AD/Men's basketball coach to bring us back to the promise land.  Between the Habs and the Bears I'm looking at a long cold winter
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2011, 01:20:32 AM
Merry Christmas to all the regulars on this board. Hope Santa was good to everyone.

Would be nice if the SUNYAC teams bring back the shiny Baubles and Bling awarded at the various holiday tournaments they will be participating in over the holidays. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 27, 2011, 02:03:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 25, 2011, 01:20:32 AM
Would be nice if the SUNYAC teams bring back the shiny Baubles and Bling awarded at the various holiday tournaments they will be participating in over the holidays. :)

Thats the plan in D. C.! 3 teams with a combined 27-2 in the Catholic University tourney should leave that winner with a good feeling going into the new year! ;) Hopefully that winner is the BENGALS! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2011, 05:27:43 PM
Plattsburgh State is the only SUNYAC team in action today as they are in Fort Lauderdale at the Adidas Holiday Slam Tournament, to take on St. Vincent (Pa) from the President's Athletic Conference at 5:30 PM. Manhattenville takes on Messiah in the 2nd game of the day. The two losers will face off tomorrow afternoon at 2 PM in the consolation game, while today's winners will meet for the championship at 4 PM.

St. Vincent comes into today's game with a 7-3 overall record (1-2 in conference play). Nearly all of their 7 wins have come against teams with losing records including woeful Franciscan (0-9) and Westminster (Pa) (2-9). The only team they beat with a winning record was LaRoche (9-2) and LaRoche's 9 wins have all been against teams with losing records, although they do own a win over Ithaca College. All that being said the posted line has St. Vincent's favored by 3 points. The Bearcats haven't played in 12 days while the Cardinals last game was on December 10th. They have had only 1 practice to get ready for today's contest. I can't pick against my Cardinals so I have to hope they're more athletic (which I think they are) and that they 'll win the rebounding war. I expect a turnover filled game after the layoffs so I think the final will be 67-62 in favor of the Cardinals. I need Perez, Fields and Williams to show their stuff today. Go Cards!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2011, 09:42:22 PM
Plattsburgh State loses to St. Vincents 86-63. The Cardinals showing the effects of their long layoff just ran out of gas. Tight first half found the Cardinals only down 37-36 at the break. No details as there was no audio, video or live stats for the game. Had to call Coach Curle on his cell phone just to get the score and he couldn't talk long as he was waiting for the local newspaper to call him back.

Cardinals will play Manhattenville in the consolation game tomorrow afternoon at 2 PM. Coach Curle said Messiah beat up Manhattenville right from the beginning and that the game was never close. Hopefully we can come home with a split.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 02:42:36 PM
Plattsburgh State playing Manhattanville in a game that tipped off at 2 PM. No way of knowing the score of this game until much later as there is no media coverage of any kind. I'm hoping the Cardinals can come home with a win. Game is listed as a pick 'em so I'll take the Cards in a close affair 71-68.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 31, 2011, 05:44:24 PM
Pick em is right - Manhattanville 69 Plattsburgh 68. - According to M'ville website.

It's losses like this that doom the 'yac to the middle of the pack nationally.

Invariably a top SUNYAC team will drop one or both games on the North Country trip, which just drives the whole conference into mediocre land.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 06:29:12 PM
Thanks for the update Bear. I was just getting ready to call Coach Curle and find out what happened. Came into my office to watch the Buffalo State-Wesleyan game which is on live video. In fact it just came on showing the teams warming up. Watched the end of the Catholic-MCLA game where the host Catholic Cardinals won 85-71. Winner of tonights game will play them for the tourney championship at 4 PM tomorrow.

Buffalo State at 8-1 taking on a 9-1 Wesleyan team that is probably looking at a 4th place finish in the NESCAC league behind the powers of Middlebury, Williams and Amherst.  Game is ready to tip off so I'll make my pick. Oddsmakers have Wesleyan favored by 3 but I'll take the Bengals to win 82-78.

Here's a link to the video broadcast:   http://video.cua.edu/live2.cfm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 07:09:39 PM
Wesleyan leads Buffalo State 34-31 at the half. First 10 minutes of the game was a back and forth affair with both teams hitting some good shots and taking care of the ball. Last 10 minutes was extremely sloppy play by both teams with a dozen fouls and 13 turnovers.
Wesleyan ended up with 12 turnovers, while the Bengals had 9. Wesleyan had 14 free throw attempts and fortunately for Buffalo the only made 5. Bengals with only 4 attempts and made 3. Officials called a lot of shooting fouls against the Bengals. Buff St. had a 21-16 lead with 9:21 left in the half but the Cardinals would go on a 9-0 run to grab their largest lead of the period at 25-21. Bengals came back to take a 28-25 edge but were outscored 9-3 in the final 3:29 of the period.  Cardinal's Jason Mendall leads all scorers with 12 pts at the break. Bengals need to get out on him as he has made 3 triples and was wide open all 3 times.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
Bengals behind 2 trifectas by Jake Simmons and a jumper by Nico Mclean have opened up a 9 point lead at 71-62 with 3:46 to play in the game.

52 seconds to go and the Bengals with the ball are up 76-72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 08:18:42 PM
Buffalo State holds off Wesleyan and wins 80-77. Detail will follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 09:21:25 PM
Final Score Buffalo St. 80 Wesleyan College 77

Buffalo St. hit just enough free throws down the stretch as they were 7x9 inside the final 2 minutes. Key basket by Jake Simmons with 18 seconds left and the Bengals up 78-77 to make it the 3 point final of 80-77. Wesleyan came down and had a wide open 3 point shot with 2 seconds left that hit the back of the rim and the Bengals corralled the rebound for the win.

Wesleyan opened the second half with another triple by Jason Mendall, and after 2 free throws by the Bengals, Cards got back to back buckets to open up their largest lead of the game at 41-33. Bengals closed to within 3 on two Ahmed Nagaya baskets, plus a Norman Simmons jumper and finally a Jake Simmons triple tied the score at 44. Eight more lead changes and two ties would follow before the Bengals would grab the lead for good on a jumper by Ant Hamer at 58-57. Hamer would then nail a 3 pointer to make it 61-57 and Buff St would gradually increase the lead to 71-62 behind 2 Jake Simmons triples for their largest lead of the night. Bengals were still up by 6 when the Cardinals sandwiched a jumper and a 3 pointer around a Bengal trip to the line where Norman Simmons made 1 of 2 and closed the gap to 77-75. Justin Mitchell was fouled and made 1 of 2 to make it a 3 point game and Wesleyan's Sasha Brown came down and scored to make it 78-77. Jake Simmons drive to the basket made it 80-77 and the final attempt by the Cardinals was no good.

Jake Simmons and Nico McLean both scored 18 points to lead the Bengals. Simmons was 7x13 fg, 4x8 threes, with 5 steals. McLean was 7x13 fg, 0x2 threes, 4x8 ft, with 5 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals. Justin Mitchell with a solid all around game added 9 pts (2x6 fg, 5x6 ft) 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks, and 2 steals. Bengals was killed on the boards 43-29 as Wesleyan grabbed 15 of those on the offensive glass. Cardinals had 19  turnovers as Buffalo pressed the entire game and the Cardinals had trouble bringing the ball into the froncourt on numerous occasions. Bengals outshot the Cardinals in all 3 areas. Buffalo State was 30x58 from the field (52%), 7x18 from beyond the arc (39%), and 13x21 from the line (62%). Wesleyan was 27x59 fg (46%), 6x16 3's (38%) and 17x29 ft (59%).

Wesleyan was led by Jason Mendall and Mike Callaghan who both scored 19 points. Mendall was 6x10 from the field, 5x7 from 3 point land and 2x3 from the line with 5 rebounds. Callaghan shot 7x12 fg, 0x1 3's, 5x7 ft, with 9 rebounds. Derick Beresford added 15 points (6x11 fg, 1x3 3's, 2x3 ft) while Shasha Brown had 11 points (4x11 fg, 0x3 3's 3x6 ft) with 4 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Wesleyan, now 9-2, will take on Massachusetts College (2-9) tomorrow at 2 PM in the consolation game.

#24 Buffalo State now 9-1 will face off against undefeated host #41 Catholic University (11-0) in the Championship game at 4 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 10:04:33 PM
Just now saw the box score for the Plattsburgh State-Manhattanville game. Notable statistic that stands out: Plattsburgh 3 point attempts:  2 for 17. Ouch!!  Manhattanville 3 point attempts 6x12.  Ouch again!!  So we didn't shoot the 3 very well and didn't defend it very well either.     Cards were 21x37 inside the arc.

Cards Shavar Fields was the game's high scorer and rebounder with 18 pts (7x10 fg,4x8 ft) and 7 boards. John Perez was the only other Cardinal in double figures as he had 12 pts (5x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 2x3 ft), 4 rebounds and 3 steals. The game was tied at the half, 34 apiece but don't know what happened down the stretch to make it a 69 -68 final as the box score doesn't give a play by play. Disappointing weekend for the Cardinals (4-7 overall) who will now have 9 days off until their next game, on the road against Oneonta on January 10th. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2011, 10:24:35 PM
Both my picks were fairly close today. I missed the winner in the Plattsburgh State game, but my 71-68 final was only 2 points off the actual 69-68 total. Should of went with my head instead of my heart as Manhattanville had a big win earlier in the year over ranked William Patterson (still Willie Pat's only loss) and looking at that gave me good reason to pick the Valiants. Plus the Cards ran out of gas yesterday and didn't think their was enough time to refill their tank. But I was hoping the Cards would rebound and I can't pick against them and hope they lose to make my prediction come true. Have to bite the bullet with this young team, and it probably won't be the last time I'll pick them when I should know better. Next year though I'll expect a big payback from them. ;D 

My Buffalo State pick  came through for me though and my total of 82-78 was only 3 points off the actual 80-77 final. If not for a couple of missed free throws at the end, it would have been 82-77. Here's hoping the Bengals can hand the Cardinals of Catholic University their first loss tomorrow. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2012, 09:39:12 AM
2 games on tap for SUNYAC teams today.

Oneonta at Greensboro 2 PM

The Red Dragons won't find much relief other than the weather as they travel south to take on the Greensboro Pride. Oddsmakers have installed Greensboro as an 8 point favorite. Hard to pick Oneonta here. Red Dragons could win this game but would need a better effort than they've shown lately. Have to go with the Pride and a score of Greensboro 76 Oneonta 67.

Buffalo State at Catholic University  4 PM

Once again the ranked Bengals have been made an underdog by the oddsmakers.  Once again they're up against a team called the Cardinals. Catholic is listed as a 5 point favorite with half of those odds due to the home court advantage. This is big team with starters that go  6'8", 6'7", 6'4", 6'2" and 5'11". First players off the bench go 6'5", 6'6", 6'4" 6'6" and 6'1". Eleven players average double digit minutes with their 3 top players  averaging 15.7 ppg, 15.7 ppg and 11.0 ppg. If the Bengals are going to win this game they will need to use their speed to attack the basket and get plenty of trips to the free throw line. Shot selection is going to be crucial as well, especially if they are able to get a lead. Would like to see their three point attempts a little more open than in some of the games I've watched them play. Too many times Buffalo State has gained a significant lead and then let the other team back in it by not being selective enough with their shots. Sometimes it's good to use the shot clock and the boys from Buffalo still need to work on that. Bengals were outrebounded badly yesterday, by a much smaller team than Catholic, and with the size these Cardinals have, I doubt that Buff State will have many 2nd chance opportunities. Hope the Bengals still have some gas left in the tank after their hard fought win yesterday. If the scouting report I heard is true, and these Cards are big but slow, then the Forty minutes of Hell that the Bengals bring will be just what the doctor ordered. Buffalo State will need to win the turnover battle and create the steals that Simmons ,Simmons, Hamer and McLean are capable of. It's tough picking a game between 2 teams that really have no common opponents, however in looking over Catholic's 11 victims so far this year, one game gives me a little comparative information.Catholic defeated Dickinson 69-67 on the road. St John Fisher also beat Dickinson 2 days ago 78-70 in Pittsford in a game that really wasn't that close. I'm pretty sure the Bengals are a better club than Fisher this year, so I'm taking that bit of info as a positive.  It's going to be tough to take down an undefeated team in their own house but these Cardinals are due for a fall. Bengals win another close one here 77-73.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2012, 01:04:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2012, 09:39:12 AM
I'm pretty sure the Bengals are a better club than Fisher this year, so I'm taking that bit of info as a positive.  It's going to be tough to take down an undefeated team in their own house but these Cardinals are due for a fall. Bengals win another close one here 77-73.         

I like your prediction!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2012, 04:13:11 PM
Buffalo State-Catholic University game all set to tip off. Here's the video link: http://video.cua.edu/live2.cfm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2012, 04:56:42 PM
Halftime score Catholic 39 Buffalo State 27.

Bengals not shooting well at all. Only 9x30 from the field and 2x9 from the three point line. They're getting killed on the boards 27-18 and Catholic has 9 offensive rebounds. Bengals also with more turnovers 8 to 6. Foul trouble for Bengals big men very early on as Ahmed Nagaya and Justin Mitchell both had 2 fouls in the first 6 minutes of play. Nagaya limited to 9 minutes and Mitchell 12. Seth Runge with 2 quick fouls as well in 2 minutes of play. Bengals 7x12 from the free throw line while the Cardinals are 11x15. Buffalo State, down by 11 at 22-11 with 8:46 to play in the period would get to within 6 on several occasions, the last time at 26-20. Catholic, who missed their first four 3 point attempts then found the range and hit a pair of trifectas along with an old fashioned 3 point play to boost the lead back to double digits. Catholic using their size to get a lot of points in the paint and 2nd chance points as well. Bengals need to come out of the break with some urgency and not let this game get out of hand to have a chance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2012, 05:21:18 PM
Bengals doing what they need to do and have cut the lead to 2 points at 41-39 on a 12-2 run to start  the 2nd half.

Bengals finally catch the Cards at 45 all on a basket by Justin Mitchell.

2 quick baskets by the Cardinals followed by a foul called on Jake Simmons and then a technical called on Simmons give the Cardinals a 51-45 advantage. Bengals come back with a triple by Roderick Epps, followed by another jumper by Epps and then a steal by Epps, who is fouled on another 3 point attempt. He goes to the line and makes all three foul shots and the Bengals have their first lead of the game at 53-51 with 12:34 to play. Go Roderick!!!

Bengals with 2 quick steals for layups and 2 baskets by Jake Simmons take their largest lead of the game at 71-66 with 6 minutes to go.

Bengals still lead 73-70 with a timeout on the floor and 4:19 left to play. Cardinals in the double bonus though and Mitchell and McLean  with 4 fouls.

Ahmed Nagaya has just fouled out for the Bengals as Catholic goes to the line down 75-73 and a chance to tie it up. Cardinal player makes 1 of 2 but Bengals come down and misfire and Catolic is fouled and goes to the line once again. They make them both and now lead 76-75 with 1:32 left to play.

Justin Mitchell is fouled on Bengals next possession and makes both free throws to put the Bengals back in front 77-76 with 1:32 to go.

Catholic is fouled on their next possession and makes both free throws to go back in front 78-77 but Rodererick Epps comes down and nails a three for the Bengals to give them the lead 80-78.

Cardinals come right back and hit a triple to regain the lead 81-80 with 31 seconds left. Bengals take a time out and set up for the  go ahead shot. Roderick Epps (who else) off a nice feed underneath by Justin Mitchell makes a layup to put the Bengals in front 82-81 with 7 seconds left. Catholic comes down without taking a time out and fires up a 3 point attempt at the buzzer that is no good and the Bengals come home with the Bling and the Baubles. Way to go Bengals!!! ;D 8-) I'm exhausted after watching that finish!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2012, 07:59:21 PM
What an outstanding performance in the 2nd half by Buffalo State to come back from a double digit halftime deficit and capture the Catholic Tournament with their 82-81 victory. Coach Ansari must have given them one heluva halftime talk because as poorly as they played in the first half, they played twice as inspired in the 2nd period. After shooting only 9x30 from the field and 2x9 threes in the 1st half, they were 21x34 and 5x9 threes, in the 2nd. Also improved at the line going 8x11 after the break. After getting pounded on the boards early they came back in the 2nd period and were only down one rebound, 17-16. For all their size, Catholic only had 3 blocked shots while the Bengals had 7 and the turnover battle swung in the Bengals favor as they only had 6 in the 2nd period to 9 for the Cardinals. Bengal guards turned up the heat and came away with 8 steals to only 4 against them. All this was done with a number of Bengals in serious foul trouble. Ahmed Nagaya and Nico Mclean both ended up fouling out and Justin Mitchell played the last 5 minutes with 4 fouls. Cards were whistled for 27 fouls to only 18 for Catholic. Catholic went to the line 38 times and made 29 while the Bengals were 15x23. That's a 14 point differential that usually doesn't bode well for the team on the short end of that stick. Bengals made up that difference with 6 more field goals and 3 more triples than the Cardinals had. Bengals also had 18 assisted buckets with most of them coming in the 2nd half.

Buffalo State was led by Justin Mitchell who was the game's high scorer with 27 points (11x18 fg, 5x7 ft). He also had 5 rebounds, 2 assists (none bigger than the nice pass to Epps for the game winner), and 2 blocks. Jake Simmons had 18 points (7x9 fg, 4x5 3's) and hit some huge threes when they were sorely needed. Roderick Epps, though, was the unsung hero of today's game with a total of 13 points (4x7 fg, 2x5 3's, 3x6 ft) all in the final 13 minutes of the 2nd half. In  a 46 second span starting at the 13:20 mark Epps made a 3 pointer, then 13 seconds later nailed a jumper, proceeded to steal the ball 7 seconds after that, and was fouled on another 3 point attempt 24 seconds later. He went to the line and swished all three free throws. His 8-0 run brought the Bengals from a 6 point deficit at 51-45 to their first lead of the game at 53-51. He then scored Buffalo State's final 5 points of the game on a trifecta with 1:18 left to play to put the Bengals back up at 80-78. And of course his final basket to give them the win after Catholic made a three of their own to go back up 81-80. He only played 14 minutes in the game but they were huge. Other notable contibutions came from Anthony Hamer with 9 points (3x7 fg, 1x3 3's, 2x4 ft), 6 assists, 2 rebounds, and 1 steal. Nico McLean added 6 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 4 steals.

Bengals ended up shooting 47% from the field (30x64), 39% for 3's (7x18) and 65% from the line (15x23). They had 34 rebounds to 44 for Catholic, but won the turnover battle as they had 14, while Catholic ended up with 15.

Catholic in suffering their first loss of the year (now 11-1) was led by Shawn Holmes with 21 pts (5x12 fg, 1x2 3's, 10x11 ft). Darrell Carroll added 18 pts (5x8 fg, 8x11 ft) and 7 rebounds. Steve Limberiou had 9 pts and was the game's leading rebounder with 8.

24th ranked Bengals return to action on Wednesday January 4th with their toughest game of the season at Division I University of Buffalo. No way that Buff State will win that game but sure hope they can keep it respectable.  Hopefully the Bengals two wins against two quaility teams will give them a boost in the ranking this coming Monday. With little action among the teams ranked directly above them I don't see them moving more than a couple of spots. WPI and Marietta should both tumble below the Bengals, but don't think #8 Whitworth, #10 Cabrini, #12 Puget Sound, #13 St Thomas, and #14 Wabash, all with losses since the last poll, will fall that far. Maybe they'll overtake Puget Sound as well, since their loss to Redlands was a bad loss.

Bengals with an unusal weekend playing a team of Cardinals on consecutive days. How often does that happen where you play teams in back to back games that have the same mascot. Somebody should have told all those Cardinals that Big Cats usually devour small birds. ;D :D
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 01, 2012, 10:00:16 PM
Kudos to the Bengals for two quality wins, hopefully their performance will be beneficial to both Oswego and the Bengals.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2012, 11:19:28 PM
Oneonta State drops an 82-75 decision to Greensboro down in North Carolina. Red Dragons had a 40-35 lead at the break but were outscored 47-35 in the 2nd period. The Pride were down 45-39 with 16:17 to play in the 2nd period, when they went on a 21-7 streak that gave them a 60-52 advantage with 8:13 to go. Red Dragons could never get it closer than two possessions from that point on.

Oneonta was led by Kevin Donahue with 19 pts (8x16 fg, 0x3 3's, 3x3 ft). Cameron Boydon had 12 points, Zach Mager had 11, and Nick Sarchioto added 10.

Red Dragons shot 27x61 from the field, 3x10 from behind the arc and 18x24 from the stripe. Oneonta hurt themselves with 21 turnovers to 14 for Greensboro.

Oneonta now gets the added bonus on this trip of taking on #9 Franklin & Marshall (9-0) in Lancaster, PA on their way back home from Greensboro. This will be the 2nd time that the Red Dragons have faced the Diplomats in Lancaster this season as they played in F&M's tip off tournament back in mid November. They were beaten 64-46 back then and will probably face a similar fate the 2nd time around. This game was just scheduled in the past couple of weeks as F&M needed a game and it worked out that the Red Dragons also had room for 1 more contest and could stop by on their way home from Greensboro. Not often you get to play an OOC team twice in a season on their court. (Not that you'd want to. ???) It's even worse when they're ranked in the Top Ten and you're sporting a 1-9 log. Good luck Red Dragons. I'm picking Franklin & Marshall to win this one 64-46. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2012, 03:50:01 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2012, 07:59:21 PM
Bengals with an unusal weekend playing a team of Cardinals on consecutive days. How often does that happen where you play teams in back to back games that have the same mascot. Somebody should have told all those Cardinals that Big Cats usually devour small birds. ;D :D

Magicman ...there defiinitly was some excitement this weekend in D. C.! Can't add too much more to your report however I'm glad that the game was shown live so that the BENGAL faithful could see some real home cooking (23 free throws to 38 for CUA) that almost costs us. When the BENGALS went up 71-66 (at the 5:59 mark) they saw, over  the next 4 plus mins, 7 fouls called against them (between the 5:43 mark and the 1:30 mark) to just 1 for CUA. In fact 10 of the next  12 points that CUA scored during that stretch, were via free throws in what most BSC fans called the most lopsided officiating they've ever seen. And Jake Simmons got his first TECH, ever, to boot. It was scary to say the least!

  Don't know if its true or not magicman, but those BENGALS might really be acquiring a taste for Cardinal! ;)

Quote from: thebear on January 01, 2012, 10:00:16 PM
Kudos to the Bengals for two quality wins, hopefully their performance will be beneficial to both Oswego and the Bengals.

Thebear...Kudos are appreciated, for sure! Down at the half of both games, to 2 teams with a combined 19-1 record,  made for 2 "Character" wins! University of Buffalo better watch out Weds.!! :)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 02, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
This week both of the conference leaders step up in class to take on D-I opponents.  Lakers travel to the garden spot of Edinburg Texas (garden spot only compared to Oswego in it's current lake effect snow storm) to take on UT-Pan American.  This is a winnable game for the Lakers if the rust from the layoff and the 2,000 mile trip can be overcome.  UT PA doesn't have a signficant size advantage, and the Lakers have a big who can step out and take the three.

Bengals have an easier trip - Elmwood Ave to Millersport Hwy, but a much tougher order.  I suspect that Javon McCrea would be gracing the Carrier Dome in an orange uni if Boeheim wasn't already ridiculously loaded with forward talent, a serious force in the paint.  Backed up by 6-10 human eraser Mitchell Watt, one of the top shot blockers (2.6 blocks/game) in D-I.  Not sure the Bengals long, but willowy front line will have an answer.  Bulls are a Top 100 team in Massey, Coming off competitive games at BYU and Temple & and will prove to be a formidable challenge for the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2012, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 02, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
  Not sure the Bengals long, but willowy front line will have an answer.  Bulls are a Top 100 team in Massey, Coming off competitive games at BYU and Temple & and will prove to be a formidable challenge for the Bengals.

hey bear...I know that Seth Runge is looking forward to this 1! He's ready to bang with their bigs. I really believe that the BENGAL guards may have something to say about this 1! McCrea will get his (he's a beast)! Let's hope that the other Bulls (my Alma Mater) can be kept in check! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2012, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 02, 2012, 09:27:31 AM
  Not sure the Bengals long, but willowy front line will have an answer.  Bulls are a Top 100 team in Massey, Coming off competitive games at BYU and Temple & and will prove to be a formidable challenge for the Bengals.

hey bear...I know that Seth Runge is looking forward to this 1! He's ready to bang with their bigs. I really believe that the BENGAL guards may have something to say about this 1! McCrea will get his (he's a beast)! Let's hope that the other Bulls (my Alma Mater) can be kept in check! ;)

Hey Champ,
I know you're skyhigh after that weekend in Washington, ;D and I'd like nothing better than to see a nice showing by the Bengals against UB, but the reality of the situation is the Bulls will be too tough to handle. To put it in horseracing perspective, the Bengals are jumping up in class by two levels. It'd be like a 25K claimer from Finger Lakes moving into Stakes company over at Saratoga Flats. ;D Now every once in a while those Finger Lake horses get lucky at Saratoga but they usually don't get lucky in a Stakes race. Bengals will need a whole lotta luck to take down the Bulls. I'll be happy if the Bengals keep it respectable. The Bulls have scored 82,80,78,and 85 points in their last 4 games against some decent D-I teams. I expect them to hit 90+ against Buff State. I hope I'm wrong and the Bengals keep it close or better yet pull off the impossible and win. Think "Chaminade against Virginia". ;)  D-3 has played a D-1 team 36 times so far this season and we're 0-36. And one more thing, Bulls are your Alma Mater?  I thought you went to Texas A&M. ???   



Here's what I posted on the LL board last week in response to a question asked of me by our friend "with age" who wanted to know what I thought about the Bengals-Bulls match-up:

"Buffalo State will be in for a long night against the Bulls. This will be the third time in the past 12 years the two teams have met. The last time was December of '09 and UB won 93-65. The time before that was November of '05 and the Bulls won 96-61. I think this one coming up on January 4th will be more of the same and the Bulls will win 94-63. Best showing of a D3 against a D1 program could be on January 3rd when your favorite team of last year, Oswego State, takes on Texas-Pan American. I think the Lakers might hang with those guys."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Geneseo is the only YAC team in action tonight as they host D'Youville College (3-6) at 7 PM. Posted line has the Blue Knights favored by 9 points. Geneseo is a better team than their 2-7 record would imply. Defensively, D'Youville, can't stop anybody. The Spartans have given up an average of 101 points in their 6 losses this season. I don't think the Blue Knights will break the century mark but I do think they'll win by more than 9. Geneseo takes this one 91-69.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 02, 2012, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
To put it in horseracing perspective, the Bengals are jumping up in class by two levels. It'd be like a 25K claimer from Finger Lakes moving into Stakes company over at Saratoga Flats. ;D Now every once in a while those Finger Lake horses get lucky at Saratoga but they usually don't get lucky in a Stakes race.

But Magic - don't forget my favorite horse (and alternate namesake) fourstardave, who was a perennial winner at both Finger Lakes and Saratoga flats.  That's why they play the games...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2012, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 02, 2012, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
To put it in horseracing perspective, the Bengals are jumping up in class by two levels. It'd be like a 25K claimer from Finger Lakes moving into Stakes company over at Saratoga Flats. ;D Now every once in a while those Finger Lake horses get lucky at Saratoga but they usually don't get lucky in a Stakes race.

But Magic - don't forget my favorite horse (and alternate namesake) fourstardave, who was a perennial winner at both Finger Lakes and Saratoga flats.  That's why they play the games...

I actually saw Fourstardave "The Sulton of Saratoga" in action on several occasions, but of course it was at Saratoga.  One of the all time great NY breds, along with Kentucky Derby winner Funny Cide. But Dave, wasn't a Finger Lakes horse who made good at Saratoga, he just happened to go to Finger Lakes and win some of their better stakes races. He raced at a bunch of other tracks as well but Saratoga was his home. Died at Belmont park, buried at Saratoga. His brother Fourstars Allstar was a pretty fair horse as well.

Bengalsrule, (and you to ) must be drinking that orange kool-aid if you think the Bengals have a chance against the Bulls. ;D But hey, I hope you both can tell me, "I told you so"  around 9 PM  on January 4th. :-X   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2012, 08:31:42 PM
Geneseo with an 84-72 lead over D'Youville with 1:55 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2012, 08:45:04 PM
Geneseo wins 90-81. They were up 81-66 with 3:11 to go but missed some free throws and got a little sloppy at the end and allowed the Spartans to get it within 8 points before going back up 90-78. A D'Youville three with about 10 seconds left closed out the scoring.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 02, 2012, 10:34:52 PM
Actually one of my good friends (His mom was our next door neighbor in Queensbury) is Mike Kane (also a Potsdam grad), who was for many years the horse racing writer for the Gazette.  Great Guy.  he wrote the book about Funny Cide, and used to kid me about my namesake "fourstardave". 

Another funny story is the year the Cide won the Kentucky Derby, my wife was singing at a jazz festival at Sackets Harbor, and the owners of Funny Cide were there, and she had to do a tune about Funny Cide sung to the music from "a fugue for tinhorns" from "Guys & Dolls"  they seemed like great guys.

All that said, quality should prevail, I would be very surprised if the Bulls dont give the Bengals the worst licking they will see all year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 03, 2012, 04:13:52 AM
If we were stuck in the 80's and Buff State was playing UB then I would bet the house on Buff State. Its 2012 and the three SUNY centers have long since departed our conference for the greener pastures of D1.  That begs to question why would a D1 school ever want to play a DIII school.  There is absolutely nothing to gain from it and if its close or you lose, it will be all over the world in a second.  Good Luck and hope to see you on ESPN or the new NBCSports(Versus)!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 06:08:47 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 02, 2012, 10:34:52 PM

Another funny story is the year the Cide won the Kentucky Derby, my wife was singing at a jazz festival at Sackets Harbor, and the owners of Funny Cide were there, and she had to do a tune about Funny Cide sung to the music from "a fugue for tinhorns" from "Guys & Dolls"  they seemed like great guys.

Around 42 years ago I had the pleasure of playing the lead role of Nathan Detroit in "Guys & Dolls" at Potsdam State's annual Homecoming Weekend musical production.

I think that was the same year that several young ladies from Phi K (your lovely wife's sorority) came pounding on the front door of my fraternity house early one morning. I opened the door to discover a couple of frantic girls pleading with me to rescue them from a creature that had invaded their sorority house, which was across the street from my fraternity. I quickly followed them into their house and was greeted by about 15 to 20 girls still in bathrobes and pajamas all lined up and down staircase shouting, he's in there!! he's in there!! and pointing to a door to another room. I opened the door, out ran this tiny little mouse, I stomped on him, a major crisis was averted and Phi K returned to normalcy. Ask KB if she remembers that. I'm pretty sure she was living in the house at that time. It certainly gave me a good laugh as well as the boys in the frat house when they heard the story a few minutes later.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 03, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
+k Magic. 

Guys & Dolls is one of my favorite shows, you as Nathan Detroit sounds like typecasting

KB had already graduated, and was teaching in Skaneateles that Fall.

Your leading lady in that show, (Susan) Rachel Worby has gone onto an international career as an orchestra conductor and was at one time married to the governor of West Virginia.  She is currently the musical director for Jessye Norman.

KB did have one of her recent grads from her program, who is now in law school report a similar experience with a mouse in student housing this past fall.  Gotta love the slums many of our students live in.

I'll have to dig up a copy of "fugue for Funny Cide" I know I have one somewhere.

Bears (Eddy #309) vs. Alvernia (Eddy #61) in Allentown tonight.  Crusaders coming off quality wins vs. (6-1) Ripon and (8-2) Mary Washington.  Tough order for my Bears who struggle to score so far this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2012, 10:51:58 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2012, 05:37:35 PM
D-3 has played a D-1 team 36 times so far this season and we're 0-36. And one more thing, Bulls are your Alma Mater?  I thought you went to Texas A&M. ???   

Actually it was UTEP (University of Texas @ El Paso). Went to school there for 2 years,  1976-78. Got married in '76 :D..divorced '78   :'( then moved back to Buffalo and graduated from the University of Buffalo ;)!!

Quote from: bearnation on January 03, 2012, 04:13:52 AM
  That begs to question why would a D1 school ever want to play a DIII school. 

   I think that I can answer that question....U. B. Coach Reggie Witherspoon and Buff State Coach Fajri Ansari (u. B. Class of '80) are the best of friends and have been for over 20 years! In the 90's Reggie coached Sweet Home to 4 straight Conference championships. That has never been done at Sweet Home H. S. since then. In fact "Reggie Witherspoon became the first African American to become a head coach of a varsity sports program at any Western New York suburban school" -U. B. Bulls website. During that same period, 1990's, Fajri coached Bishop Turner Carroll H. S. to  2 NYS federation Championships, 5 NY State Catholic Associations Championships and 3 Monsignor Martin Championships. That has never been done again by a Catholic/Private H. S. in Western Ny either.

  During the 90's these 2 men were probably 2 of the 3 most respected high school coaches in Western New York (Pat Monti of Lasalle H. S. being the 3rd). Many who knew them then are not surprised by their success in the college levels now. Reggie and Fajri have never forgotten where they came from and that is probably why, with disregard to what would happen if he lost, Reggie (out of respect for Fajri and what they both have meant to the city of Buffalo), continues to gives Fajri/Buff State an opportunity, such as the 1 tommorrow night. Their relationship is bigger than wins/loses, as many, who will be in attendance tommorrow night, can attest to.  :D

Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2012, 08:29:53 PM
Bengalsrule, (and you to ) must be drinking that orange kool-aid if you think the Bengals have a chance against the Bulls. ;D

I'm mixing up a batch of that Koolaid right now. Putting it in the fridge so it can be nice and cold! ;) I'm gonna be drinking all day tomorrow! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 01:07:32 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 03, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
 
Guys & Dolls is one of my favorite shows, you as Nathan Detroit sounds like typecasting

You got that right! ;D

Quote from: thebear on January 03, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
 
Your leading lady in that show, (Susan) Rachel Worby has gone onto an international career as an orchestra conductor and was at one time married to the governor of West Virginia.  She is currently the musical director for Jessye Norman.

Glad to hear that Sue has had such a fine career. She was a perfect Miss Adelaide. Vivian Blaine had nothing on her.

Quote from: thebear on January 03, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Bears (Eddy #309) vs. Alvernia (Eddy #61) in Allentown tonight.  Crusaders coming off quality wins vs. (6-1) Ripon and (8-2) Mary Washington.  Tough order for my Bears who struggle to score so far this year.

Sounds like you may not have read the PM I sent you early this morning. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 02:40:28 PM
New Top 25 poll just released and both Oswego St. and Buffalo St. move up 3 spots each. Lakers check in at #20 with 148 points (a gain of 48 pts) and the Bengals move up to #21 with 120  points (a gain of 24 pts).  Rochester #25 last week dropped into the ORV category (lost 19 pts) and is #27. Hartwick received a few more points, they now have 11, and come in the #35 spot. No other East Region team was mentioned. 
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 02:53:38 PM
Four games today involving SUNYAC teams:

New Paltz State at St John Fisher 3 PM

New Paltz (4-5) is coming off a 3 week layoff and doesn't travel very well. Their only road win was on a neutral court and St. John Fisher's court is far from neutral. The Cardinals have yet to lose at home this year. (And don't lose many there in any year.) New Paltz has trouble with teams named Cardinals. Also have trouble playing defense. Oddsmakers have made these Cardinals a 4 pt favorite. Fisher (7-3) has a win over Brockport, when Brockport was at full strength. They have an excellent big man in Jason Norsen who is averaging a double double of 17.3 ppg and 10.4 rpg. Both of their starting guards also are in double figures. Frosh forward 6'5" Optimystik Kinard (7.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg) has been a pleasant surprise for the Cards. I think they win by a little more than that 4 pt. spread. Fisher takes it 77-70.   

Potsdam vs Alvernia at DeSales University  6 PM or 8 PM

D3hoops Scoreboard shows Potsdam playing Alvernia at 8 PM. Also shows DeSales playing Berkeley College (NY) at 8 PM. Unless they have two courts, one of these games is at 6 PM and the other is at 8 PM. DeSales website states their game is at 6 PM. Potsdam and Alvernia websites both show their game is at 8 PM. Usually the host school plays the second game, but it looks like that may not be the case here. So I'm guessing the Bears go on stage at 8 PM. Potsdam, coming off a three week layoff, Alvernia (6-3) from the MAC-Commonwealth conference is coming off two solid wins last week in Florida at the Land of Magic Disney Tournament. Bears (4-5) are 16 point underdogs and have struggled on the offensive end all year. Will probably do so again, especially after the layoff. Crusaders aren't a high scoring team either, with their biggest output being 74 points. I think the Bears will cover the pointspread but not by much. Alvernia will take this one 70-58.

To be continued.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2012, 03:57:19 PM
Predictions???? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2012, 03:57:19 PM
Predictions???? ???

What did you do pour that orange kool aid in your eyes? ??? Look at the post above yours and the post that will be following this one shortly. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
The other two games on tap for today:

Brockport at St. Lawrence     6 PM

This is a tough game to call because of the absence of  Brockport's big man, Kyheem Green. Still no word on his playing status. I'm guessing he won't be in uniform as this type of injury usually takes some time to heal. Brockport (2-7) like a number of YAC teams has been off for over 3 weeks. Unlike some of the other matchups today their opponent, SLU has also been off for an extended period of time. Saints last played on December 3rd in a listless 54-47 win over a winless and usually pitiful Elmira team (0-10). If they play like that again, the Golden Eagles, even without Green, will have them for lunch. Saints sporting a 3-3 record with losses to Plattsburgh, Ithaca, and Keene State, but do have a big win over #20 Oswego St. (Lakers only loss in their season opener). Saints are a solid team but struggle at times putting points on the board. In three of their six games they have only scored 54 points. Not a good number to be stuck on. SLU has only played 1 home game all year (the Oswego game). I'm thinking that if they can beat the Lakers in the friendly confines of Burkman Gymnasium then they should ground the Golden Eagles but it will be a low scoring and close affair with the Saints winning 61-59.

Oswego State at D-I Texas-Pan American    8 PM

The premier match up of the day. Lakers hope to succeed where 39 other teams have failed. D3 's best chance of a victory over a D-I team is this game I believe. The pointspread has the Lakers as 10 point underdogs and I think that's probably about right. Texas-PA is not a big team and they are having problems against other D-I programs. They played D3 Wentworth Tech on December 15th and defeated the Leopards 65-48. Wentworth hung with them for the first 17 minutes of the period and they were only down 25-20, but the Broncos went on a 15-4 run in the final 3 minutes to go up 40-25 at the half. Leopards played them tough in the 2nd period though and only gave up 25 points while scoring 24 of their own. Bronco's big men aren't any bigger than Chad Burridge or Hayden Ward. They start 3 guards, and their 2 top scorers, both guards average 14 and 13 ppg. One thing of note is this Bronco team did travel to NYC to play St. John's and only lost to the Big East team 66-61. They actually were ahead of St John's 32-24 at the half. I'm going out on a limb here and will probably lose this prediction, but I'm taking the Lakers to give all of D3 a boost. Burridge and the boys win one for the good guys. 66-62.  Go Lakers. 

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
New Paltz all over St. John Fisher 64-49. Nice win for the Hawks. Nice to be wrong on that prediction.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 06:30:07 PM
SLU and Brockport just tipped off. Went to pull up the video from the SLU website but they want you to buy either a season pass for $60, or a daily pass for  $7 to see the game. NO THANKS. There are so many games to watch for free why pay to watch one. I don't remember them charging to watch their video broadcast before. There is a live stats link and I have an audio broadcast up and running. Brockport up 14-8  over the first 6 minutes of play. No Kyheem Green in the lineup for the Golden Eagles.

Lakers at Texas Pan American will tip off at 8 PM and that is on video. Here's the link if anyone is intersted:

http://www.utpa.edu/broncslive/

Live stats also available Here is that link:http://www.sidearmstats.com/utpa/mbball/index.htm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 06:33:07 PM
Potsdam next opponent is either DeSales or Berkeley College (NY). Berkeley all over DeSales 29-17 with 5 minutes left in the 1st half. That's a shocker.

Brockport still up on SLU 24-12 with 6:48 left in the 1st.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 07:22:55 PM
New Paltz 64 St. John Fisher 49.
Final score not indicative of how the Hawks dominated this game. Fisher scored the first basket for a 2-0 lead that was the only time the Hawks ever trailed. They quickly went up 12-6 and enjoyed a double digit lead nine minutes into the game at 18-8. Closest the Cardinals got was 6 points on a couple of occasions and the Hawks went into the locker room up 30-20 at the break. They stretched the lead to 14 early in the 2nd and after Fisher closed to within 6, at 36-30, seven minutes into the period, New Paltz put them away with a 13-0 run to make it 49-30 with 8:22 to play. The lead ballooned to 23 at 57-34 and the Hawks coasted to the finish line.

New Paltz was led by sharpshooter Harris Wichard's double double with 18 pts (8x16 fg, 2x5 3's,) and 11 rebounds. Matt Devine had 12 pts (3x10fg, 1x2 3's, 5x7 ft) and 8 boards. Nick Taldi added 10 pts (4x10 fg, 0x4 3's, 2x2 ft) and 8 rebounds. The Hawks also got a solid effort from Alan Siergiej, with 7 pts (3x5 fg,1x2 ft), 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks and a steal.
New Paltz shot 26x57 from the field (45.6%), 4x16 3's (25%) and 8x12 ft (6.7). They had a slight edge on the boards 43-41 and committed 9 turnovers to 8 for Fisher.

St. John Fisher only had one player hit double figures and that was Jordan Gettings with 12 pts (5x11, 2x4). Hawks held Fisher's big man Jason Norsen to 8 pts (3x10 fg, 2x6 ft) and 12 boards. Fisher's problem was putting the ball through the hoop. They shot 20x59 from the field (33.9%) only 2x15 from 3 point land (13.3%) and just 7x21 from the line (33.3%). One of their worst performances of the year.

Hawks even their record to 5-5 and are off until next Tuesday the 10th when they host Potsdam State at the new start time of 6 PM

Fisher falls to 7-4 and will next travel to Ithaca this Friday the 6th at 8 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 07:27:49 PM
Brockport still leading SLU 60-50 with 9:58 to go. Kyheem Green who wasn't listed as a starter must have entered the game off the bench and is leading Brockport in scoring with 13 points in just 11 minutes of court time. I woulda never picked SLU if I knew he was back.

DeSales has come back against Berkeley  but still trails 58-53 with 4:20 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 07:36:35 PM
Brockport pulling away from the Saints 70-54 with under 5 minutes to go.

DeSales pulls to within 1 at 66-65 on a 3 pointer with 23 seconds left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 07:53:34 PM
DeSales down 3 at 68-65 hits a triple at the buzzer to send it into overtime. Cameraman must have fell asleep. With 13 seconds to go Berkeley went to the line up 1 at 66-65. They make both free throws and DeSales inbounds the ball but the camera never leaves the Berkeley end of the floor. You get a great picture of the Berkeley bench players jumping up band down but no idea of what's happenning on the floor. Turns out DeSales turned the ball over with 5 seconds left and had to foul again. Berkeley misses the 1 &1  free throw, Desales gets the rebound and once again the camera never shows you the final shot, but only the empty end of the court. You can see the lights flashing on the Berkely backboard and all the Berkeley players waving the shot off but it counted and goes to OT. Would have been nice to see how far away the shot was fired up. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 08:00:02 PM
Brockport downs the Saints 84-77. Kyheem Green, who only played 19 minutes, leads Port with 17 points. Nice win for the Eagles on the road. Could be the start of a 2nd half resurgence that will carry them back into contention in the YAC. 

2 minutes to tip off for the Lakers game. To hell with the Sugar Bowl!! :P Burridge and the boys will be more fun to watch. ;D 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 08:09:43 PM
DeSales comes back from a 12 point deficit midway through the 2nd half to force overtime with a buzzer beater. They then proceed to misfire on their first 2 shots and turn the ball over 3 straight times and fall behind 74-68. Berkeley goes up 77-70 and holds off the Bulldogs 83-77 to relegate the hosts to the consolation game tomorrow, probably against the Bears.

Oswego scores the first 2 points of their game. Go Lakers. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 08:13:34 PM
Lakers up 8-6 after the 1st 6 minutes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 08:40:18 PM
Oswego falls behind by 10 31-21 with 1:20 left in the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 08:53:54 PM
Lakers down by 10 at the break 33-23. Broncos are a little more athletic than our guys and are gettin to the rim for a lot of points. At least 7 fg's were either layups or throwdowns. Both teams with 8 turnovers. Lakers have yet to go to the line, while the Broncos are 5x6 from the stripe. Thought a couple of fouls called on Oswego were very questionable. Oswego's shot selection needs to get better. Only 11x29 from the field and more importantly only 1x10 from beyond the arc.  Broncos shot 13x28 and 2x4 from 3 land. Burridge with 8 pts leads the Lakers, Gilke has 6. Ward needs to step it up. Only 2 pts and 1 rebound. Lakers need to come out and get  this game back to single digits in a hurry or it could get out of control. Need a 2nd half comeback like the Bengals had on Sunday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 08:59:08 PM
DeSales University refusing to show the Potsdam-Alvernia game on video. Mad cause they lost I guess. They're showing a replay of their defeat on video. Live stats are available and the Bears are struggling. Down 17-6 after 10 minutes, they still trail by 10 at 25-15 with 2:23 left in the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
Oswego doing exactlly what is needed and opens the half with a 10-2 run to cut the lead to 2 at 35-33.

Hayden Ward must have heard what I said about stepping it up. He scores 7 of those 10 Laker points. ;D 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
Potsdam down 28-20 at the break. They need to do what the Lakers have just done to start the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:09:26 PM
Hayden Ward just nails his 2nd three of the half to pull the Lakers within 1 at 37-36.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:16:27 PM
Lakers down 4 at 42-38 with 12 minutes to go. Chris Gilkes just picked up his 4th foul. Ward has 10 points in this half and leads the Lakers with a total of 12.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:29:45 PM
Lakers still in it only down 51-46 with 7:20 to go. They've been within 3-5 points for the past 5 minutes but can't get over the hump. Burridge struggling from the field only 4x15. He just hits 1 of 2 from the line to make it a 4 point deficit. Michele hits a three and it's now 51-50 with 5 and a half to go. Ward Steals the ball and the Lakers can take the lead. Ward is fouled and goes to the line for the lead. He makes the 1st one and misses the 2nd but the game is tied at 51 with 5 minutes to go. C'mon Lakers!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:35:03 PM
Lakers down 55-53, with the ball. Gilkes drives the baseline throws an up and under that goes in but the zebra calls an offensive foul and Gilkes fouls out. Looked like a block to me. Lakers rebound a Bronco miss and go for the tie with 3:19 to go. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:41:11 PM
Lakers down 1 after Gebhardt makes 1 of 2 free throws. Lakers have an opportunity to take the lead but Burridge misses a contested layup. 55-54 with 1:08 to go. Broncos come down and miss a three point attempt and Monaghan grabs the rebound and Lakers call a time out. 55 ticks left and we have the ball and a chance for the lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
Lakers come out of the time out and Michele misses a three. Ward commits a foul and the Broncos make them both for a 3 point lead. lakers come down with 34 seconds left and Michele is called for traveling. Lakers foul after a time out and Broncos go to the line and make them both. Down by 5 at 59-54 Lakers fail to get a shot off and the ball goes out of bounds. Still Lakers balll but only 11 seconds left. Time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 09:50:39 PM
Lakers inbound the ball and Burridge quickly fires up a three. Shot is no good and the Broncos win 59-54. Great effort by our guys and I believe it was the closest a D3 team came to winning against a D-I all year. Certainly nothing to be ashamed of. Key moment was the charging foul called on Gilkes on his made basket that was waved off with 3:44 to go. We were down 2 at the time and his bucket would have tied the game and a free throw would have given the Lakers the lead. Changed the complexion of the game for sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Brockport (defeats St. Lawrence 3-4) and New Paltz (defeats St. Johns Fisher 7-4) both win. Potsdam loses by 4  (to Alvernia 7-3) and Oswego loses a close 1 to D-1. Magicman...What overall grade would you give the Yac for todays 4 performances ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 11:14:00 PM
Texas Pan American 59 Oswego 54

Lakers may have lost but they were winners as far as I'm concerned. A couple of calls here and there and a few lucky bounces and it sure could have been a different story. Great 2nd half by Hayden Ward to carry the Lakers when Chad was struggling to get his shots to fall.  Ward with 18 points to lead all scorers. He ended up 5x10 fg, 3x5 3's, 5x8 ft  with 8 rebounds and 3 steals. Conor Monaghan had 12 points (5x9 fg, 2x5 ft) while Burridge just missed a double double with 9 pts and 10 boards. Sean Michele added 6 pts, 8, assists, 3 steals and 2 rebounds. These 4 guys combined to play 146 minutes out of possible 160. I 'm not 100% positive but I think it was the best effort a D3 team had against a D-I team in regulation play all year. So don't get down guys. Enjoy the sunny Texas weather for a couple of days. It's 4 degrees and dropping here in sunny Plattsburgh. :o

Lakers ended up shooting 19x53 fg, (35.8%), 7x23 3's (30.4%), 9x14 ft (64.3%). They got hurt on the boards 38-29 and had 13 turnovers to 14 for the Broncos.They drop to 9-2 for the year and are back in action for the rare Monday night game on January 9th as they travel to Brooklyn to take on Medgar Evers. Their next conference game is on Friday Jan 13th when they host New Paltz.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2012, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Brockport (defeats St. Lawrence 3-4) and New Paltz (defeats St. Johns Fisher 7-4) both win. Potsdam loses by 4  (to Alvernia 7-3) and Oswego loses a close 1 to D-1. Magicman...What overall grade would you give the Yac for todays 4 performances ???

I think we did pretty good today. 2 wins on the other team's home court and both teams will be in their respective league's tournament at the end of regulation play. (I think.) I just posted my feeling about the Oswego game and Potsdam only losing by 4 to Alvernia wasn't a bad effort. Based upon my expectations, because I really thought we'd lose all 4 games, (I picked Oswego because I didn't want to pick Texas and root for my prediction) and (I picked SLU because I thought Green was still out, I would have went with Port if I knew he was back)  I would give us a solid B+ for a grade. ;)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 04, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
Bears had an abysmal first half, scoring only 20.  Mounted a furious comeback in the last two minutes, but Alvernia was money from the FT line.

Tonite they face host DeSales, licking their wounds from losing to NYC's Berkeley (USCAA-2).

Eddy ratings have this as a 5 pt game. 

Perhaps the Bears can carry their momentum from the last five minutes of the Alvernia game into the consy.  Game is winnable - teams are very close in both Massey and Eddy rankings.  Teams match up well in size, Pierce & Duquette may give the Bears the edge in the paint, while DeSales is guard oriented with several long range shooters.

6 PM tip.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2012, 11:00:19 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 04, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
Eddy ratings have this as a 5 pt game. 

"EDDY ratings"??? Where do you find this??
Quote from: magicman on January 03, 2012, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2012, 10:49:59 PM
Brockport (defeats St. Lawrence 3-4) and New Paltz (defeats St. Johns Fisher 7-4) both win. Potsdam loses by 4  (to Alvernia 7-3) and Oswego loses a close 1 to D-1. Magicman...What overall grade would you give the Yac for todays 4 performances ???
I would give us a solid B+ for a grade. ;)   

Magicman .....Do any of these games factor into A-the respective teams Regional rankings and B- Our Conference strength?? Also what positives effects do wins like these, and other out of regional wins, have on the "yac???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 04, 2012, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2012, 11:00:19 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 04, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
Eddy ratings have this as a 5 pt game. 

"EDDY ratings"??? Where do you find this??



https://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/current-full-rankings

Should be there, and it also a has a link to tonight's games.  These ratings are D-III games only.











Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
Three games on the schedule tonight:

Potsdam State  at DeSales   6 PM

Bears with a decent effort yesterday against Alvernia but fell behind by 16 midway through the 2nd half and their rally came up just short. Hard to come back from that big a deficit against a decent team. Don't think DeSales is as good as Alvernia and I'm hoping they're disappointed that they were upset yesterday and didn't make their own tournament final. Potsdam listed as a 5 point underdog but I think the Bears can win this game. Bears over the Bulldogs 66-63. Hopefully the video feed will be there tonight. tip off in 8 minutes. More picks later.

Just found out that Potsdam's leading scorer Curtis Pierce is not playing in tonight's game. That will change the outcome of this game quite a bit in my opinion. I believe DeSales will now win this game 67-59. Wish it wasn't so and hope I'm wrong.  >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 06:54:32 PM
Nazareth College at Cortland State 7 PM

Cortland and Nazareth both back in action after 17 day layoff . Which Nazareth will show up? The one that beat nationally ranked Rochester twice this year or the team that couldn't beat 4-11 Roberts Wesleyan in the Wendy's Classic. Red Dragons are favored by 3 points. Cortland perfect at home this year, Golden Flyers 0-3 on the road. I like both these streaks to comtinue so I'll take Cortland to win this one 68-63.


Buffalo State at University of Buffalo  7 PM

I posted this earlier in the week and nothing has changed that would make me think differently.

"Buffalo State will be in for a long night against the Bulls. This will be the third time in the past 12 years the two teams have met. The last time was December of '09 and UB won 93-65. The time before that was November of '05 and the Bulls won 96-61. I think this one coming up on January 4th will be more of the same and the Bulls will win 94-63." I will be rooting for the Bengals to keep this one close. In light of Oswego's effort last night, a solid effort here by Buff State would help both teams in the rankings I believe. I don't think the Bengals will be penalized in the rankings, even if they get blown out, but a respectable effort can be a positive for them and the Lakers.

Was all set to watch the video feed of this game but unfortunately they want 8 bucks to view it. I have plenty of other choices for free. ;D
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
Potsdam State trails DeSales 37-20 at the break. Not looking good for the Bears. Curtis Pierce missed on both ends of the floor.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 07:54:16 PM
Just pulled up live stats of the Cortland-Nazareth game. Hard to believe what I was looking at. Showed a halftime score of 58-21 in favor of Nazareth. I thought I was looking at some old game that hadn't been deleted. Couldn't believe the half was already over as it was only 7:30 PM when I pulled it up. Must have played the game in running time. Cortland's basket must have a lid on it as Red Dragons are 10x29 fg, 0x8 3's, 1x4 ft. Naz has 3 players in double figs at the break (16,14,13) They are shooting lights out. 22x34 fg, 10x13 3's, 4x4 ft. Their basket must be twice as wide as regulation size. This game is over. No way Corts are coming back from 37 down. Shocking, simply shocking!!.

Potsdam took a whooping as well losing to DeSales 74-52.

Buffalo State losing to UB  49-23 with a minute to go in the half. No live stats as they still have a UB-Youngstown State game up on that link. Listening to an audio feed. 

YAC taking it on the chin tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 08:02:00 PM
Bulls lead the Bengals 51-27 at the half. Not looking too respectable. UB, hopefully will call off the dogs when they get up by 35 or so.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 08:40:53 PM
Cortland loses to Nazareth 87-56. Not much good to say about this one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 09:02:46 PM
Final in Buffalo.    University of Buffalo 111   Buffalo State 59
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 09:26:31 PM
Potsdam 52 Desales 74

Bears were up against it the minute Curtis Pierce was a no go. They've had a hard enough time on the offensive end with their leading scorer. Take him out of the equation and winning this game went out the window. Potsdam never gained a lead and only had one tie at 4-4 early on. DeSales went on a 19 -8  spurt and led 23-12 at the 9:47 mark. Bears closed to within 6, but another Bulldogs 12-0 run made it 36-18 with 1:33 left and for all practical purposes ths game was over. Desales was up 37-20 at halftime and opened the 2nd period with another 12-5 burst to go up by 25. Bears never got closer than 20 after that. Freshman Zac Adams was the only Bear player to hit double figures with 11 pts. Brad Drysdale and Tony Efese  both added 9 points. Bears were 19x43 fg. 2x12 3's, 12x15 ft. They outrebounded the Bulldogs 29 to 23 but had trouble taking care of the rock as they committed 21 turnovers to only 9 for DeSales.

Bears fall to 4-7 and travel to New Paltz on Tuesday Jan 10th for a 6 PM start.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 10:28:17 PM
Bengals losing big was no surprise. I was not expecting a 111-59, 52 point MOV monkey stomp. Also didn't want the Bulls to break 100 points. Didn't get either wish. Only Bengal in double figure was Jake Simmons with 13 points. Justin Mitchell had 9 points. Only stats I got were from the radio guys. Bengals shot 22x68 from the field (32%), 4x19 from the arc (21%) and 11x15 from the line (73%)
Radio guys said the game didn't count in Buff State's record and was only an exhibition for them. I think he needs to check his facts. Bengals fall to 10-2 and will next host Fredonia on January 9th at 8 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2012, 10:36:46 PM
Cortland's loss to Nazareth, that 87-56 debacle, was actually a worse monkey stomping than Buffalo State's. The Bengals have an excuse. The Red Dragons have none. This game was so bad I'm not even going to write anything about it. :-[ I don't think jdex wants to write anything about it either. ??? 

Speaking of jdex, where are you? No sign of the dean of scribes in several weeks now. We miss your voice. Please come back. Hope all is well. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2012, 05:05:26 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2012, 11:00:19 AM
Magicman .....Do any of these games factor into A-the respective teams Regional rankings and B- Our Conference strength?? Also what positives effects do wins like these, and other out of regional wins, have on the "yac???

Answer to A: Yes, all these were regional games but New Paltz, Brockport, and Potsdam won't ever make an appearance in this year's regional rankings. All 3 teams already with too many losses to be ranked when the NCAA releases the first set of rankings. Probably Oswego and Buffalo State will be the only SUNYAC teams to be ranked. Cortlland has a chance but tonight's loss to Nazareth definitely hurt them and helped Naz. Right now if I had to guess, the regional rankings would probably look something like this:

1.  Hartwick
2.  NYU
3.  Oswego St.
4.  Rochester
5.  Nazareth
6.  Hamilton
7.  Buffalo St.
8.  Hobart
9.  Medaille

Buffalo State is where they are primarily due to their strength of schedule which is lower than all those on the list except for probably Medaille. Your 2 wins in DC didn't help you much because neither one was an in region game. This list will probably have some major changes by the time the real rankings make their 1st appearance in February. I don't expect NYU to stay where they are once conference play starts. Hamilton will fall to a lower position, as will Nazareth. I expect Hobart to rise and Skidmore may make an appearance. The Thoroughbreds have a 6-2 record but all their games are in region. Their 2 losses have come against #1 Middlebury and #29 William Paterson. The jury is out on Hartwick. They don't have a strong SOS either but as long as they keep winning they'll stay where they are. Union also may merit consideration. They have a 6-1 in region record with their only loss coming at the hands of Hartwick 62-61. They gave Hamilton their 2nd loss the other night 69-54. Oswego and Buffalo St. need to keep winning. An upset loss or 2 could hurt big time. Of course 4 of the ranked teams could win their conference's Pool A bid which would move everybody up the list for Pool C consideration. But if a dark horse, say like Brockport, wins the YAC tournament then either the Lakers or the Bengals wo't be dancing. No way the Yac will get 3 teams in. The same would apply to the other conferences. As it gets closer to crunch time, the Pool C contenders will hope they can win their conference tournament and get the automatic bid. If that fails then they will want the regular season champion, (usually a high slotted team in the regional rankings) to get the automatic bid. 

Answer to B: Yes, in regards to Brockport and New Paltz wins. Our overall conference strength is helped when you play and beat teams with respectable records that were built by beating other decent teams. ;D

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2012, 11:00:19 AM
Also what positives effects do wins like these, and other out of regional wins, have on the "yac???

Wins like Brockport's and New Paltz's help our winning percentage. And wins like these help our SOS. The Oswego game against Texas-Pan American doesn't count. Out of region wins aren't a big help either. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 05, 2012, 08:07:26 AM
Magic & Bengals

Stats are up on UB athletics web site

http://www.buffalobulls.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/files/game11.htm

Sure looks like they are counting this game in their stats & W-L

Bulls power forward Javon McCrea only played 9 minutes, hopefully not hurt, as the Bulls need him for their D-I MAC schedule.

Bad night for the 'yac.  Since Pennsylvania is in the same administrative region as NY, our games count as regional.

Without Curtis Pierce, we have some challenges as he makes every he plays with else better, very unselfish player & one of the hardest workers and toughest competitors you will find.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Thanks bear....

And OUCH!!!! :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Thanks bear....

What am I, chopped liver?  That's it no more answers for you!! He gives you a copy and paste while I type my fingers to the bone answering a myriad number of your questions. OH THE HUMANITY!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 05, 2012, 02:26:16 PM
Appears that the game counts for UB, but is an exhibition for Buffalo State:

http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/news/2012/1/4/MBB_0104120837.aspx

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 05, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
I am not sure how it can be. D-III teams can't play D-I's in exhibitions after Nov. 15 as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 05, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Thanks bear....

What am I, chopped liver?  That's it no more answers for you!! He gives you a copy and paste while I type my fingers to the bone answering a myriad number of your questions. OH THE HUMANITY!!

+k Magic
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2012, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Thanks bear....

What am I, chopped liver?  That's it no more answers for you!! He gives you a copy and paste while I type my fingers to the bone answering a myriad number of your questions. OH THE HUMANITY!!

Awww shuck magicman.....I always thank you via phone!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2012, 03:43:05 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2012, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2012, 11:30:18 AM
Thanks bear....

What am I, chopped liver?  That's it no more answers for you!! He gives you a copy and paste while I type my fingers to the bone answering a myriad number of your questions. OH THE HUMANITY!!

Awww shuck magicman.....I always thank you via phone!!! ;)
And the phone call thanks it was! 8-)  Good talking to you.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 05, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 05, 2012, 02:30:52 PM
I am not sure how it can be. D-III teams can't play D-I's in exhibitions after Nov. 15 as far as I'm aware.

I think Buff State has a problem. 

They have 26 US games listed on their schedule beginning on 11/15. 

Link to D-III manual

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D312.pdf

Reading NCAA Bylaw 17.3.3(d) & Bylaw 17.3.5.1, It looks like that once the "playing season" starts on 11/15, Division III teams can only play 25 contests during their regular season.

All of the games Buff State has left are conference games.

Betcha a lot of teams will volunteer not to play the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2012, 05:28:20 PM
Only one game on tap for today.

Oneonta State at #8 Franklin & Marshall. 5 PM

Oneonta visits Lancaster PA. for the second time in 7 weeks to take on the undefeated (11-0) and 8th ranked Diplomats. This game was just scheduled as F&M (sounds suspiciously like S&M  :D and that's what Oneonta must like, if they want to play these guys twice in 2 months) needed a 25th game (wanted more fodder?). Red Dragons lost the first time 64-46. In all fairness to Oneonta they were still in the game (only down by 7) through the early stages of the 2nd half. A 15-5 run built the lead to 49-32 and basically put the Red Dragons away. Posted line on today's game has the Diplomats favored by 20 pts. F&M coming off a double digit home win over Hobart on Tuesday night. Oneonta (1-9) coming off a road loss at Greensboro, NC 82-75, on New Year's Day. Diplomats inside-outside tandem of All American guard Georgio Milligan (19.8 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 4.5 asists pg, 2.1 steals pg, and 1.1blocks pg) and 6'7" forward Hayk Gyokchyan lead a team with a MOV that's averaging 13.4 per game. I think this game will be a replay of their first contest. Oneonta will hang around for a while before the Diplomat's talent proves to be too much. Dragons go down 72-54.

Side note regarding the oddsmakers: Odds on tonight's game are from augie_superfan (Eddy ratings). Massey ratings doesn't have this game listed. I noticed last week that a number of the SUNYAC games weren't listed. They were tournament games for Buff State, and Plattsburgh State. I sent Ken Massey an email asking if their omission was an error and he responded, (within 5 minutes I might add) that unless the games were on the schedule he gets from the NCAA at the start of the season there aren't in his program and therefore won't be on his prediction pages. Since the Oneonta game tonight was a late addition, only scheduled 2 weeks ago, there is no line from Massey.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2012, 06:03:32 PM
Bear, Check your personal messages.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2012, 06:11:25 PM
Oneonta down 32-19 to Franklin & Marshall at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
Oneonta loses to F&M 65-46.
Red Dragons down by 12 at the break, fall further behind early in the 2nd period. Diplomats up by 19 at the 17:29 mark and stretch it to 51-27 with 9:33 to play. F&M coach empties the bench early as they coast to the 19 point win.

Only Dragon in double figs was Nick Sarchioto with 10 pts. Lucas Slivinsky added 9 pts. Oneonta only 16x50 from the field, 2x7 3's and 12x17 ft. They were beat on the boards 39-34 and had 20 TO's to 14 for F&M. 12 players broke into the scoring column for the Diplomats led by their AA Georgio Milligan with 11 points.

Oneonta falls to 1-10 and will next host Plattsburgh State on Tuesday January 10th at 6 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2012, 12:50:45 AM
Congratulations to Justin Mitchell who was chosen as the SUNYAC PLAYER of the WEEK for the week ending January 3rd

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

Buffalo State junior forward Justin Mitchell (Buffalo/Timon) was named the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) Men's Basketball Player of the Week, and the Bengals moved up three spots to 21st in this week's D3hoops.com national poll.

The Bengals handed Wesleyan (Ct.) just its second loss of the season on Saturday, winning 80-77, and then defeated the previously unbeaten host Cardinals, 82-81, on Sunday to win the Catholic University Classic.

Mitchell was named the MVP of the tournament after averaging 18.0 points in the two victories, including matching a career-high with 27 points against Catholic in the title game.

Buffalo State's 10-1 start is its best start to a season since opening the 1991-92 campaign with an 11-1 mark.  The Bengals are 23-2 in their last 25 games dating back to last season.

Buffalo State will play an exhibition game tomorrow at Division I University at Buffalo at 7 p.m., before returning to SUNYAC play at home next Monday against Fredonia at 8 p.m.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2012, 01:08:16 AM
To make Justin Mitchell's week a little sweeter The Buffalo State forward was named to the D3hoops Team of the Week for the week ending January 1st.

This marks the 4th time out of 6 weeks that a player from the SUNYAC conference has received this D3hoops award.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2012, 05:05:08 PM
One game on tap today:

Geneseo State at Cortland State   6 PM

Two teams at the opposite end of the conference standings. Which Geneseo team will show up. The one that looked like a solid contender beating Plattsburgh on the road or the one that stunk up the joint the next day at Potsdam. For that matter which Cortland team will show up. Hopefully for the Red Dragons not the one that got pounded by Nazareth this past Wednesday 87-56. Something tells me Coach Spanbauer will have worked out those kinks. Posted line has the Red Dragons favored by 13, the margin of victory   
when the Red Dragons won 64-51 just last month. I think this one is deja vu all over again. Cortland wins 72-57. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Geneseo leading Cortland 36-29 at the half. Red Dragons still suffering from Naz-itis as the Blue Knights jumped out to a 15-5 advantage 9 minutes into the game. Followed that up with another 8-3 spurt to give them their largest lead of the period 23-8. Cortland comes back with a 15-4 spurt of their own and cuts the lead to 27-23 with 3:48 to play. Knights build it back to a 9 point edge and settle for the 7 point advantage heading into the break. Ryan Riefenhauser with 12 pts to lead Geneseo. Jesse Winter with 10 for the Dragons. I bet it's pretty noisy in that Red Dragon locker room right about now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2012, 07:33:21 PM
Cortland down 63-60 with the ball and 8 seconds left to play. Team takes a timeout. Harrison Hefele attempts a 3 pointer at the buzzer but it doesn't go and the Blue Knights upset the Red Dragons in Cortland.   :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2012, 07:24:12 PM
Two games on the schedule tonight:

Oswego State at Medgar Evers  7 PM

Oswego St. playing their final non-conference game of the season tonight and it won't be a walk in the park. Medgar Evers comes into this game with an 8-6 record but does have an impressive 93-88 win over Ramapo College on Dec.9th. The Cougars also own a 95-93 win over 9-1 Albertus Magnus College, handing the Falcons their only loss 3 days before the Ramapo game on December 6th. The Cougars got a tip in buzzer beater to win that one. Albertus Magnus had handed #23 Western Connecticut (12-1) their only loss of the season. Medgar Evers also played Western Connecticut but fell to the Colonials 85-72 in a game that was closer than the final score indicated. The Cougars returned all 5 starters from last year but sr. guard James Gilmore hasn't played since November. Still the Cougars have plenty of firepower as evidenced by their 76 ppg scoring average. Four players are averaging double figures led by Winston Douglas who is averaging a double double of 16 ppg and 10 rpg. Twins Jovan (15.8 ppg, 7.8 rpg) and Jarrel (13.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg) Deare are both juniors. Jovan is a forward while Jarrel alternates between the forward and guard position. Soph. guard Tony Sims also average double digits with 10.9 ppg. Oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 6 point favorite. This could be an upset in the making but I'm sticking with Oswego and think they'll leave Brooklyn with a 76-71 victory. 

No media coverage of this game at all tonight, not even livestats. Boo!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2012, 08:00:20 PM
Fredonia State at Buffalo State 8 PM

Fredonia opened the season with 5 straight non-conference wins and while none of those victories were over a team with a winning record, one of them was Ithaca College. The 5-8 Bombers have struggled this year with a lot of close losses but over the weekend beat back to back E8 title contenders, St. John Fisher and Nazareth. Those two impressive wins sure make Fredonia's win over Ithaca look a whole lot better. And lets not forget how decisively Nazareth beat Cortland the other night. But league play has been tough on the Blue Devils as they sit in 9th place with a 1-3 conference record. In fairness to Fredonia they have lost to 3 of the top teams in the standings and tonight take on the 2nd place Bengals. Certainly a front loaded, top heavy schedule. Bengals come into tonight's contest after their rude treatment by the University of Buffalo last Wednesday. I suspect the players have already forgotten about that exhibition. It was a no win situation and now they will be focused on the job at hand. Oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 10 point favorite but I think they'll win by a larger margin at home. I'm taking Buffalo State to roll 78-60.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2012, 09:04:11 PM
Upset in the making? Fredonia leads Buffalo St. at the break 43-41. Back and forth play throughout the half with at least 6 ties and 7 lead changes. Hard to tell as the video feed keeps breaking up and the livestats are frozen at 39-36 with 3:11 to go. Bengals had early 9-3 lead but Fredonia caught them at 13. Down 20-17 Bengals go on a 14-3 run to grab the largest lead of the period at 31-23. Blue Devils go on an 11-1 run of their own and retake the lead at 34-32. Bengals tie it up at 39 and teams trade points until the Bengals final attempt goes in and out at the buzzer. Best I can tell due to livestat problem, is that Fredonia's Damien Goodwin leads all scorers with 12 points while the Bengals Ahmed Nagaya has 10. Teams are pretty even in almost all statistical categories. Wish I could get a decent video feed from the Buffalo website. Every time I watch a Bengals game the video quality is very poor. I don't have any problems with all the other video feeds I watch so I'm assuming it must be a media problem with the Bengals and not my computer. I hope they at least correct the livestat problem, but it doesn't look good.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 09, 2012, 09:15:07 PM
d3 hoops scoreboard says Oswego loses to Medgar Every 72-68, really bad loss for the 'yac.

Medgar Evers is essentially open admissions in Brooklyn, so never know who shows up from the fertile playgrounds of that basketball rich borough.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2012, 09:43:53 PM
New Top 25 poll out a few hours ago and Buffalo State remains at #21. Bengals despite 2 quality wins since the last poll fail to gain any ground. They actually lost 10 points falling from 120 down to 110. Apparently the bad loss to D-I University of Buffalo must have registered with some voters.

Oswego also suffers because of their loss to D-I Texas-Pan American, despite almost pulling off the upset in that game. I would think that effort might have moved them up in the polls.  The Lakers fall from #20 down to #22. They saw their point total drop from 148 down to 102.

Rochester and Hartwick continue to receive votes in the ORV category but both teams with losses last week found their point totals dropping as well. Rochester has tumbled from #27 (59 points) to #36 (13 points).

Hartwick, after their fall from the undefeated ranks with their loss to Alfred, went from #36 (11 points) to #42 (5 points)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2012, 09:54:01 PM
Buffalo State only up 71 -67 with 35 seconds to go. Nico McLean just made 2 free throws to make it a two possession game. Fredonia with a timeout and the ball. Fredonia comes down and takes a three and misses but gets the rebound and is fouled. Julius Bryant hits both foul shots. Blue Devils foul Nico McLean again and he makes 1 of 2 with 14 seconds left. Fredonia comes down and goes for 2 instead of three. they make a layup to make it 72-71 but there's only 4 seconds left. Buffalo inbounds the ball to McLean and he gets fouled with 2.2 seconds to go. McLean goes to the line and makes both shots, 74-71. Fredonia with one last chance to tie it up in the final 2 seconds. Fredonia makes a long downcourt pass and loses the ball out of bounds, game over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2012, 11:01:25 PM
Final: Buffalo State 74- Frdonia State 71

Good effort by the Blue Devils to almost pull off the upset in Buffalo. The 2nd half was more of the same with 7 ties and 7 lead changes. Buffalo State forged ahead by 6 points at 60-54 with 7:52 to play. this would be the largest margin of the period. An 11-2 Blue Devil swing put Fredonia in front for their largest lead of the half at 65-62. The Bengals caught them at 67, went ahead on a steal and 2 free throws by Jake Simmons and never lost the lead. Nico McLean was huge down the stretch hitting 5 of 6 free throws inside the final 35 seconds. he ended up 7 for 8 from the line. As a team the Bengals hit 12 of their final 13 foul shots and were 16 for 20 in the 2nd half. Key plays in the game occured after the Bengals tied it at 67, Fredonia went to the line on their next possession and missed both free throws with 2:27 to go. Bengals came down, missed a three point attempt and Fredonia blew a chance to take the lead when Jake Simmons stole the ball. He was fouled and his two ft's gave Buff State the lead. Needing a basket, the Blue Devils missed a three point attempt, got the rebound and turned it over on a traveling call with 1:15 to play. That set the stage for McLean's heroics at the charity stripe. 

Bengals placed 4 players in double figures. Justin Mitchell had 17, (6x9 fg,0x1 3's 5x7 ft)  and just missed another double double with 9 rebounds. He also had 4 blocks, 2 assists and a steal. Ahmed Nagaya had 14 points (6x10 fg, 2x4 ft) before fouling out with 7:27 left to play. Roderick Epps scored 11 points (3x6 fg, 2x5 3's, 4x6 ft) and Nico McLean had 11 (2x5 fg, 0x2 3's 7x8 ft). Bengals didn't have a great night shooting the rock going 25x59 (42.4%) from the field. Their 3 point attempts weren't good only going 2x13 (14.3%) from downtown. Their foul shooting especially in the 2nd half helped carry the load. They were 22x30 (73.3%) from the stripe. They lost the rebounding war 40 to 37 but won the turnover battle with 16 to 22 for Fredonia.

Blue devils also had 4 players with double figures. Damien Goodwin (7x12 fg, 3x6 3's, 3x3 ft) and Julius bryant (8x11 fg, 4x7 ft) shared scoring honors for the game as they both tossed in 20 points. Both were also close to a double double as Bryant had 9 boards and Goodwin had 7. Leonard Smith added 14 pts (3x7 fg, 8x11 ft) and Kevin Mitchell had 11 (4x11fg, 0x1 3's, 3x3 ft). Devils shot 23x57(40.4%) from the field,  and like the Bengals struggled from long distance hitting only 3 of 13 (23.1%). They also knocked down their free throws hitting 22x28. (78.6%).

Buffalo State improves to 11-2 overall, 4-1 in conference play. They'll hit the road this weekend to face Brockport on Frday night and Geneseo on Saturday afternoon. 

Fredonia falls to 6-5 overall and 1-4 in the YAC. And like their travel partner, they will next be in action against the same teams as Buff State this weekend. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2012, 11:56:27 AM
Ryan Riefenhauser from Geneseo State has been named the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending January 7th. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

MEN'S BASKETBALL – Geneseo

Ryan Riefenhauser (Dobbs Ferry, NY/Dobbs Ferry), junior forward

Junior Ryan Riefenhauser averaged 15 points, 8.5 rebounds and 3.5 steals in two games for Geneseo to start 2012 as the Knights have doubled their number in the wins column from the first semester. He posted 12 points in the 90-81 win over D'Youville on Monday night. He completed his stat line with nine rebounds and a career high six assists. Saturday afternoon he scored a game-high 18 points, including the go-ahead layup with 3:16 remaining, as Geneseo edged Cortland, 63-60, in a SUNYAC matchup. Riefenhauser hit 8-of-14 shots from the floor and also grabbed eight rebounds.

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Post by: magicman on January 10, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
Two games tonight in League action.

Potsdam at New Paltz at 6 PM

The Bears travel south to take on the Hawks in a matchup of two teams headed in opposite directions. Bears coming off back to back losses over the holidays to fall to 4-7 on the year. Bigger loss is scoring leader Curtis Pierce, who is questionable for tonight's game. Hawks coming off back to back wins, most recently at St. John Fisher, as they even their record to 5-5. Tied with Geneseo for 4th place in the standings, New Paltz will look to keep the lead for that all important 1st round home playoff game. Posted line has the Hawks favored by 11. That's assuming Pierce plays for the Bears. If he doesn't this one could get ugly. Either way the Hawks should win this one. I'll say it's going to be 78-62 New Platz.

Plattsburgh at Oneonta 6 PM

These Red Dragons still looking for their first conference win. Cardinals looking to keep pace with New Paltz. Home loss to Geneseo in December could come back to haunt Plattsburgh, especially if they end up in a tie with the Blue Knights. Cardinals coming off 2 losses over the holidays down in Florida have been practicing hard all week. Oneonta on a 10 game losing streak, need a conference win desperately. Oddsmakers show visiting Cardinals as 1 point favorites. Oneonta has played both Buffalo State and Fredonia tough on their home court and I expect this one to be a close game as well. I think the Cards will prevail 72-66.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2012, 06:45:00 PM
Oneonta State leads Plattsburgh State 32-31 at the half. Back and forth the entire period with numerous lead changes and ties. Neither team could gain much of a lead. Plattsburgh's largest advantage was 15-10 while the Red Dragons held a 23-16 lead. The Cards had a 10-2 spurt to retake the lead at 26-25. Teams trade baskets until Oneonta hit 2 free throws with 8 seconds left and a 3 point attempt by the Cards at the buzzer was off the mark. Dan Lee has 9 points to lead Oneonta. Cards got 11 points from frosh Shamoy McIntosh and 8 points from Shavar Fields.
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Post by: magicman on January 10, 2012, 07:00:04 PM
Potsdam and New Paltz are knocking down shots from all over the place and go into the break with the Bears up 53-50. Both teams are shooting 60% or better and both are also hitting their 3 point attempts at over 55%. Between them they hit 11 shots from downtown. New Paltz enjoyed an early 17-10 advantage but the Bears came right back to recapture the lead 21-20 and extend it to 24-20. Bears largest lead was 31-26, but Hawks erased that to go back on top 35-33. Several more ties until the Hawks broke loose for a 50-47 edge. Bears then scored the final 6 points of the period to make the halftime score 53-50. Bears led by Rob Duquette with 13, Josh Lambert with 12, and Tony Efese with 9. Hawks got 48 of their 50 points from Matt Devine (21), Harris Wichard (16), and Nick Taldi with 11.
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Post by: magicman on January 10, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
Final score in Oneonta: Plattsburgh State 70  Oneonta State 61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2012, 07:42:36 PM
New Paltz State hangs on to defeat Potsdam State 96-87.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 10, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
Think they had a bit of help from the zebras. 

Bears got the margin down to three with :30 to play.  Took a time out, plan is to play defense, get a stop, keep it to a one possession game.  Pierce appears to stop Devine, zebras call a foul, Dobbs gets a T, Devine (who hung a mere 43 on the Bears) makes all 4 FT's Margin now 7 [game over].

Hawks got 90 out of Devine, Taldi, Wichard, down to nine players, not sure what happened there, but they have three pretty good ones.

Bears went 7 minutes without scoring from 10:30 - 3:30, and still managed to score 87 points WTF.

Shoulda woulda coulda.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 10, 2012, 08:42:22 PM
New Paltz dressed 9 finished with 8 #33 went down  half way through the second half.  New Paltz didn't need help from the refs Potsdam played undisciplined late in the second half, couldn't make layups and they received 2 T's late in the game one from the bench. UNEXCUSEABLE Potsdam was up by 9 with 12/13 minutes left and then couldn't make a shot.  Then they play Mike D'Antonii matador defense and the rest was history.  New Paltz never gave up and they deserved the W.  If I were Potsdam I would shake my head and be ashamed because it was a horrible horrible L.  How does a college team not have a point guard.  Maybe I'm wrong but late in the second half it looked like they were playing with 5 bigs.  No one knew what to do with the ball and New Paltz out hustled them.  Finally how does the freshman from Potsdam(the town) play so many minutes,  He is not ready and it showed.  Potsdam is in trouble going into the SUNYAC schedule.  FYI, to the rest of the conference My game plan would be to  run New Paltz unless they can find someone to suit up!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 10, 2012, 08:48:27 PM
The bench  T wasn't on Dobbs it was on one of his players.  Like I said undisciplined and they are in trouble!!!  There will not be a good end to this season for Potsdam
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2012, 08:52:19 PM
Plattsburgh 70 Oneonta 61

Teams came out of the break and traded baskets through the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half when the Cardinals, down 41-39, went on  an 11-0 run opened up a 50-41 lead with 13 minutes left. Red Dragons didn't fold however and chipped away until they caught Plattsburgh at 56 apiece with 4:00 to go. From that point it was all Plattsburgh as the Cardinals ended the game on a 14-5 burst to come away with the win. Ketema Brooks re-entered the game at that 4 minute mark and immediately hit a jumper, then made a layup off an Oneonta turnover and promptly stole the ball that led to 2 made free throws by Shavar Fields. After the Red Dragons missed a pair of foul shots, Fields hit a layup, was fouled on the play, and made that free throw. Oneonta turned it over again and John Perez grabbed a an offensive rebound for the putback and just like that it was 67-56 with only 49 seconds left.

Plattsburgh was led by Junghoon Roh who was the game's high scorer with 19 points (7x14 fg, 5x10 3's). it was a career night for Roh, scoring the most points he's ever had in a Cardinal uniform. Shavar Fields had 15 points (5x8 fg, 5x9 ft) and 8 rebounds. Freshman Shamoy McIntosh added 13 points (3x5 fg, 3x5 3's 4x5 ft) as all his shot were from beyond the arc. John Perez only scored 7 points tonight (3x7 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x1 ft) but was the game's  leading rebounder with 12 and led the Cards with 4 assists. Coach Curle emphasized all week that the Cards had to hit the boards better than they did over the holiday games. It must have sunk in as they out rebounded the Red Dragons 39-16 and that's the reason they won this game. They grabbed 4 offensive rebounds after the tie at 56 that resulted in 7 unanswered points.

Plattsburgh shot 25x49 (515) from the field, 9x20 3's (45%) and 11x17 (65%) from the line . They kept Oneonta in the game however with 21 turnovers while the Red Dragons had 13. Oneonta had a whopping 13 steals in the game.  Oneonta shot 22x48 fg(465), 8x18 3's (465) and 9x12 ft (75%).

Red Dragons were led by Dan Lee with 18 points (5x8 fg,3x4 3's, 5x5 ft). Nick Sarchioto had 12 points (5x7 fg, 2x4 ft), and Kevin Donahue added 11 (4x10 fg, 3x7 3's). Frankie Kelly had 9 points and 7 assists.

Plattsburgh improves to 5-7 overall and 3-3 in the conference. They will return to action on Saturday when they host their travel partner, Potsdam State, at 4 PM.

Oneonta falls to 1-11 (0-5) and will travel to Cortland, then Oswego this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 10, 2012, 08:57:23 PM
The kid from Potsdam is Zach Adams, is a two time first team All-State Class B player.  Comes highly recommended by Steve Kmack.  who sat next to Jerry for at least one national championship.  Is in the midst of a transition from playing HS 5 to college 3-4.

Alas the Bears are struggling at the point.  Gone are the days of Mike Deane, Ray Lipscomb, Eddie Jachim, Leroy Witherspoon, & Pony Bullock.  Wish the gym floor had enough DNA left so we could clone at least one of these guys.

As I said, how do you score 87 points and not score for 7 minutes!!!!????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2012, 10:49:36 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 10, 2012, 08:08:04 PM
Hawks got 90 out of Devine, Taldi, Wichard, down to nine players, not sure what happened there.

Don't know if this helps.... but when we played New Paltz on Dec 3rd., they only dressed 10!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 11, 2012, 06:15:13 AM
Potsdam New Paltz was 53 50 at the half unheard of which means Potsdam only scored 34 in the second.  If they made some lay ups during the dry spell they would have won or if they could have made a stop on a team that doesn't have a full roster.  Or didn't get two stupid T's.  Or played smart when they went up by 9 early in the second half.  Maybe with time the kid will be ready to play full time DIII basketball but he is not ready which just means either the coach doesn't have anyone for the minutes or he really likes the kid which will continue to lead us in the wrong direction.  Like you say Just the facts.  I'm aware that I will never see a DIII title I just want a competitive team that I can respect and say they hustled and it was a tough L  What I saw last night was a team with no direction, no leader. no defense and no point guard.  Maybe it was the long trip from Potsdam to New Paltz and back.  By the way I miss the women's game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 11, 2012, 02:06:39 PM
The SUNYAC basketball experiment splits one of the former weekend trips where both men and women travel together.  The men play at one site, the women at the other both in 6 PM starts. 

We do this with Oneonta and New Paltz this year.  Not sure why they are doing it, when I looked at it, it meant more bus expense, more time away from class, more time on mountain roads on the bus in the winter.  Yes they do save a bit of meal money and a couple of overnights, but the big expense is the 2 extra bus trips.

Old Way - Men & Women travel together, 572 Miles, 12 bus hours. two overnights (Leave Thursday afternoon), one day away from classes (Friday).  Have Sunday to study & rest up.

New Way - Men & Women travel separately, total of 1852 bus miles, 36 bus hours, no overnight, 1.5 - 2 days away from classes (Depending on when you have to leave due to weather) + exhausted students Wednesday from 1-2 AM arrival on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 11, 2012, 05:48:40 PM
Thank you Pat for posting the 1982 game.  I am a Buffalo native and Bills fan, and eventually forgave Metzelaars over the years for picking on our little guys, clearly he never went pro in basketball, but has to rank as one of the great D-III athletes of all time.

I think you will find the 1981 game at Augustana more dramatic, when freshman Leroy Witherspoon hits a 38 footer at the buzzer to tie the game in regulation, then the Bears go on to defeat the homestanding Vikings in overtime.  Unfortuantely the MVP voting had already taken place.

I'll work on getting you a file of that tape, and of the 1986 championship game, when the Bears became the first undefeated D-III champion.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2012, 06:20:32 PM

Alive and well ........just off the Carribean cruisin' trail .....

Cortland's 0-2 '12 start??? Shocking, we say, simply shocking!! Not necessarily the losses, but the means taken. No shows in first half on both occasions. Span was leery of such a thing after lengthy layoff, but for sure didn't anticipate starting anew after such a solid first semester. At home tonight vs. the other RDragons. Probably before another sparse gathering. Still have Oswego seeded above all others.

Bear, what's up with Pierce? From our reading we assume he's hurt, yes?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
Four games in the YAC tonight all with 8 PM tip offs: Friday the 13th, who will be the unlucky ones?

New Paltz State at #22 Oswego State

Hawks fly into Laker Hall and look to take down the conference leading Lakers. New Paltz has put together a 3 game winning streak while Top 25 ranked Oswego is coming off their worse stretch in a year and a half with 2 straight losses. Loss to the D1 team was no surprise but getting upended by Medgar Evers the other night was. Chad Burridge, coming off two lackluster performances, (for him) needs to get back on track. Hayden Ward has put togther 5 solid games in a row but the Lakers need both these guys to be on their game tonight. Hawks can put points on the board in a hurry with Matt Devine, Harris Wichard and Nick Taldi chucking them up from all over the floor. Those three combined for 90 points against Potsdam on Monday evening, shooting a combined 31x46 fg's and 11x18 from downtown. Posted line has Oswego favored by 10 points. Lakers aren't Potsdam and Devine won't go off for 43 as he did against the Bears. I think Oswego gets back on track and wins this one 82-75.

Fredonia State and Geneseo State

On paper this looks like two teams heading in different directions. Fredonia, losers of 4 in a row and 5 of their last 6. Their only win was against cellar dwelling Oneonta. They just finished their toughest stretch of the season with losses to D-I Youngstown State and then lost to the top three teams in the YAC. They were in all three of those conference games however losing them by a combined total of 12 points. Geneseo won 2 games in a row last week, for the first time all season, with that 2nd win coming at the expense of Cortland. This game is a tough one to predict. Oddsmakers have the Blue Devils favored by 5 over the Blue Knights. Fredonia can't afford to fall any further behind in the conference standings. They played Buff State tough on Monday night. A repeat of that will have Geneseo feeling Blue. Devils over the Knights 70-66.

Oneonta State at Cortland State

One of these nights Oneonta is going to win a conference game. Just don't think it will be tonight. Too many times this year the O Red Dragons have been in tight games and then have a stretch where they can't put the ball in the hoop. Hartwick and Plattsburgh games quickly come to mind. The C Red Dragons just lost at home to Geneseo and the chances of that happening in back to back games are pretty slim. Posted pointspread favors Cortland by 10 over Oneonta. That seems to be a good number. Red Dragons take this one 70-62. I can't go wrong with that pick. ;)                     OK,OK, Cortland over Oneonta 70-62

#21 Buffalo State at Brockport State

Top 25 ranked Bengals looking to stay close to the Lakers. Brockport hoping to get back in the race. Injuries may play a part in this contest. Brockport's Kyheem Green (out for nearly a month) was back in action in their win over St Lawrence on January 3rd. He only played 19 minutes but had a team high 17 points (as did Donnell Jackson). Golden Eagles will hope to get more minutes from him tonight. It's also possible the Bengals may be missing a key performer in tonight's game. Bengals almost upset at home on Monday by Fredonia State. Oddsmakers have made Buffalo State an 8 point favorite but they don't know what I know. I'm afraid the Bengal's national ranking might take a beating tonight because I see Brockport pulling off the upset, 80-76.

I hope I'm wrong about this one as I want to see the YAC continue to be represented in the D3hoops poll. With Oswego losing on Monday I think they fall out of the Top 25. If Buffalo State loses tonight then the YAC will go from 2 ranked teams down to none.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 08:36:49 PM
Cortland up 34-28 at the half over Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 08:54:44 PM
Oswego leads New Paltz 43-26 at the half. Burridge is back to normal with 15 points to lead the way. Chris Gilkes with 9 and Hayden Ward with 7. Lakers grabbed an early 9-0 lead and Hawks never closer than 2 possessions. Up 22-18, Oswego goes on a 13-0 run to make it 35-18. Harris Wichard leads new Paltz with 9 points.
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Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 08:57:18 PM
Can't get anything on Brockport-Buff State game. Livestats say the game hasn't started yet. Audio feed not working. must be a black hole there. :P >:(
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Post by: jdex on January 13, 2012, 09:17:19 PM

Brockport  51-37 over Buffalo State with about 13' left ....... Bengal J. Simmons 3-pointer brings BS within eight ...... G. Williams counters  .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:18:44 PM
Fredonia and Geneseo tied up 29-29 at the half.

Cortland pulling away from Oneonta 61-46 with under 7 minutes to play

Oswego all over New Paltz 54-30 with 14 minutes to go.

Still can't get anything from Brockport and now I see they've taken the Livestats link off their website.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 13, 2012, 09:17:19 PM

Brockport  51-37 over Buffalo State with about 13' left ....... Bengal J. Simmons 3-pointer brings BS within eight ...... G. Williams counters  .......

jdex
Are you getting an audio feed or livestats on this game? Help me out here if you have a link. Also I sent you a PM did you get it?
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Post by: jdex on January 13, 2012, 09:28:39 PM

Brockport by 12 .....about 7:45 left. Up by 17 recently ......yes, audio feed off SUNY board scoreboard  ....live audio ......
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Post by: jdex on January 13, 2012, 09:34:53 PM


891thepoint.com
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 13, 2012, 09:28:39 PM

Brockport by 12 .....about 7:45 left. Up by 17 recently ......yes, audio feed off SUNY board scoreboard  ....live audio ......

Thank you, I could pull up the same page from Brockport's website but there was no spot to connect to the audio feed. The minute I pulled it up from the SUNY website the audio was loud and clear.
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Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:41:13 PM
Cortland pounds Oneonta 84-58.
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Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:44:25 PM
Oswego downs New Paltz 84-60.
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Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
Fredonia and Geneseo locked in a tight one. Blue devils lead 49-47 with 10:45 to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 13, 2012, 09:47:19 PM

Cortland with a finishing flourish in 84-58 blitz of Oneonta. Up 34-28 in so-so opening period. Sound second half shooting touch, finish 30x53fg, 9x15 3s. Corts get career best 19 pts from starting H. Hefele on 6x12fg, 3x6 3s, 4 assts in 29'. Manning off bench for 14 pts (5x5fg, 4x4 3s), 6 rebs. J. Winter 11 pts, 6 rebs; K. McMahon off bench for 10 pts(5x7fg) in 23'. No J. Connolly. OSt 18x45fg. N. Sarchioto 14 pts, F. Kelly 11 pts, Z. Mager 11 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
Brockport puts a hurtin on Buffalo State 95-69.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2012, 10:21:52 PM
Fredonia and Geneseo going right down to the wire. Freds up 64-63 with 1:27 to go. Geneseo's ball coming off a time out. Goaltending called on a Ryan Riefenhauser lay up and Knights go in front 65-64 with 1;17 to go. Freds come down and score inside by Kevin Mitchell to reclaim the lead with 55 seconds left. Timeout by Fredonia. Geneseo works the ball for 24 seconds, and then calls a timeout.
Blue Knights then turn the ball over on a pass into the post and immediately foul Fredonia's Damien Goodwin. Goodwin makes 1 of 2 to make it a 67-65 lead. Knights bring the ball down to the frontcourt and call timeout with 15 seconds left. They get the ball inside to Connor Fedge who is fouled with 8 seconds left. He goes to the line and makes the 1st one and Fredonia tries to ice him by calling time out. It doesn't work and he makes the 2nd to tie it at 67. Fredonia inbounds the ball but loses it in a scramble and a jump ball is called. Fredonia retains possession and inbounds the ball, goes the length of the floor shoots, misses, and gets the rebound and Kevin Mitchell is fouled with .2 tenths left on the clock. He makes the first and and misses the second, game over. Fredonia wins 68-67. 

Dalton Kashmer leads the Blue Devils with 16 points (6x14 fg 0x3 3's, 4x4 ft). Damien Goodwin has 14 (5x6 fg, 2x3 3's, 2x3 ft) while Julius Bryant and Kevin Mitchell both had 10. Fredonia shot 52.1% from the field  (25x48), 33.3% , 3's (5x15) and 81.3% from the line 13x16). Fredonia had 26 rebounds to 23 for Geneseo. Both teams had 15 turnovers.

Geneseo was led by Matt Curry, who was the game's high scorer with 26 points (10x15 fg, 6x8 3's, 0x1 ft). Jordan Jones (5x11 fg, 1x4 3's, 1x1 ft) and Ryan Riefenhauser  (6x8 fg) both had 12 points. Gordon Lyons was a perfect 4x4 from the field and 2x2 from the stripe to net 10 points. Riefenhauser was the leading rebounder in the game with 8 boards . Blue Knights shot 54% from the field (27x50),  44.4% from downtown (8x18) and 71.4% from the line (5x7) 

This game was as close as it gets. Tough way to lose on a foul called basically at the buzzer. I had this game forecast as a 70 -66 Fredonia win. It was only 1 point off my posted total.

Fredonia gets a much needed  conference win and improves their record to 7-5 overall and 2-4 in the YAC. They travel to Brockport tomorrow afternoon to take on the resurgent Golden Eagles at 4 PM.

Geneseo falls to 4-8 overall and 2-3 in the conference. They host Buffalo State tomorrow afternoon at 4 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 10:20:06 AM

Brockport and Buff St. engage in nip and tuck opening half. Port up 30-28. Quickly begins taking charge quickly thereafter. Moves to double figure lead on J. Ivy jumper at 17:48. Bengals nearest approach eight points. Margin swells to 17. BS within a dozen. Rout to the wire. Port 32x61fg, 24x32ft, 16 assts, 14 Eagles score, 6 in double figures including every starter. K. Green 21 pts(10x14fg), 6 reb, 4 blks in 19'; Ivy 17 pts(7x9ft), 6 assts; D. Klein 14 pts(3x4 3s, 5x6fg), 4 assts; L. Legister 14 pts(8x9ft) in 10'; G. Williams 13 pts; D. Jackson 10 pts, 5 rebs. Buffs only double digit point getter is J. Simmons 25 pts(7x15fg, 3x7 3s) in 33'. Bengals with 23 trnvrs

Oswego scores first nine points, races to 43-26 bulge at the midway mark and crushes New Paltz. Laker firepower knocks down 34x60fg on 19 assts. Just a handful of trnvrs. C. Burridge 27 ptsd(10x18fg), 3 rebs in 34'; C.Gilkes 17 pts(8x12fg), 6 assts, 5 rebs in 32'; H. Ward 10 pts(4x7fg), 9 rebs, 4pf in 26'; R. Sheridan 4 assts, 7 pts, 4pf in 16'. Hawks M. Devine 19 pts(6x15fg), 4pf in 30'. No 7-footer D. Olsen on slim roster
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2012, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 13, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
Brockport puts a hurtin on Buffalo State 95-69.

"Truer words were never spoken." :'(

   Brockport definitly put it to us in the 2nd half last night. No excuses.....just got beat. I would have loved to have an injured Justin Mitchell -  BENGALS leading rebounder/shot blocker and 2nd leading scorer (14 pts & 7.4 boards per game) on the court last night but alas... the Dr. knows best!

Gotta cheer up quick!!  I guess things could be worse than 11-2 (D3 record) and being 4-2 (in the "Yac). Gotta get that win at Geneseo today (not talking trash..just hoping for a win today) or I'm not gonna be able to enjoy watching the Giants upset the Packers tomorrow! ;) -Trash talk!!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2012, 02:28:16 PM
All ten teams in action today with 5 games starting at 4 PM:

Buffalo State at Geneseo State

I knew the Bengals were in trouble last night when I learned Justin Mitchell was out with an injury. Tough to lose your leading rebounder and 2nd leading scorer and not feel the pain. Now Buff St heads over to Geneseo with a much needed win to avoid losing contact with Oswego. The Lakers have opened up a 2 game lead in the standings over the Bengals, who will now need some help if they have any hope of capturing the top seed for the playoffs. Someone on the Bengals bench will have to step up today to replace Mitchell who will be in street clothes for the 2nd straight game. That didn't happen last night from the starters or the reserves. Jake Simmons can only do so much and Buffalo State will need to get some rebounding help to offset the loss of Mitchell. Geneseo will be looking to rebound from a disappointing loss in a game that looked to be headed for overtime. Tough call at the buzzer cost them that chance. Usually the zebras won't blow the whistle on a play with less than a second left and will let the extra session sort it out. I was watching on a video feed and it was hard to tell if the Fredonia player got hacked or not on the rebound putback that drew the foul. I'm sure the Geneseo bench didn't like the call. You can bet the Blue Knights will be looking to prevent a homecourt sweep this weekend. Oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 9 point favorite. Without Mitchell I think that's too many. Buffalo State will gut this one out but it will be a close game. I like the Bengals to win it 74-69.

Fredonia State at Brockport State

Brockport is on the move and after a slow start finally seems to be firing on all cylinders. All Conference forward Kyheem Green is back but still seeing limited minutes. Last night for the 2nd game since his return he only played 19 minutes. Of course with the Golden Eagles enjoying a double digit lead for most of the 2nd half his presence wasn't needed. Eagles have moved into a virtual tie for the fourth spot in the standings and with only two conference losses have their sights set on an upward climb. Fredonia is looking to move into playoff contention. A win today could see them jump as high as the 6th spot. Blue knights haven't won two in a row since late November. Posted line has Brockport favored by 2 points. I think the Golden Eagles are heating up just in time and Fredonia used up it's luck allotment last night. The line should be larger. Brockport takes this one 81-72.

New Paltz State at Cortland State

Cortland temporarily all alone in 2nd place with a half game lead on Buffalo State. Can these Red Dragons continue to perform like the first semester team or will the inconsistencies that have surfaced recently continue to plague them? Last night's game wasn't much of an indicator as the other Red Dragons continue to struggle. New Paltz was overwhelmed by the Lakers yesterday and they need this game to remain in the upper tier of the YAC. Hawks have struggled away from Hawk Center with only  1 road win all year. They lost at Plattsburgh by 14 points and Cortland hosted Plattsburgh and won by 9.  The line has Cortland favored by 7 points. I think this one could go down to the wire but New Paltz is only showing a 10 man roster and big man Daniel Olsen was absent from last night's game. I see the Hawks coming up a little short. Red Dragons win 75-71.

Oneonta at Oswego

Lakers continue to be the class of the conference. Last night's beatdown of the Hawks put them in the driver's seat and they once again look to be the top seed and host of the playoffs. They may not run the table but it's hard to see them losing more than 2 conference games. A healthy dose of Hawk was all the medicine Chad Burridge needed as he was back to normal last night with 27 points. Hayden Ward almost had a double double with 10 points and 9 boards and Chris Gilkes went 8x12 to score 17. Conor Monaghan with only 3 minutes doesn't sound good. Possibly injury? It won't matter if he's in or out as Oswego's offense will be too much for the Red Dragons
to handle. Oddsmakers have Oswego favored by 17 points. Don't think it will be any closer. Lakers win easily 86-65.

Potsdam at Plattsburgh

Anything can happen when these North Country rivals meet and today will probably be no different. Cards have yet to win 2 games in a row all year. The win at Oneonta on Tuesday evened their conference record and gave them a share of 4th place. A win today coupled with a New Paltz loss could leave them all alone in that position. Bears coming off a tough loss to New Paltz where they shot lights out for the first 30 minutes. It was the last 10 minutes, when it counted that hurt. Still their 87 points was the highest output of the year for a team that's struggled on the offensive end most of the season. A loss today could leave the Bears on the outside looking in regarding the playoffs. Plattsburgh's up and down season needs to find the right direction. Young and talented, the team has had a dozen games to learn what's expected from the coaching staff. The next 5 games will be their toughest stretch of the season and they need to enter that period with some confidence. The oddsmakers have Plattsburgh listed as a 7 point favorite. I think it might be a little closer. I'm going with Plattsburgh over the Bears 72-67.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 04:41:46 PM

Cortland all over New Paltz 46-24 at the half ........Hefele and Manning lead the way. Winter with 5 assts. H. Wichard 15 pts for the Paltz
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 04:48:30 PM

Elsewhere .......
Geneseo 38, Buffalo St. 35 late in the first half

At the half :

Brockport 53, Fredonia 31

Oswego 33, Oneonta 23

Plattsburgh 32, Potsdam 24
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 04:54:53 PM

Geneseo 40, Buffalo St. 37 at the break
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 05:15:42 PM

Midway into final half .......Cortland 64, NP 34 and Pburgh 45, Pdam 41

With 7:25 left tis Oswego 46, Oneonta 39

Early final period Geneseo 46, Buffalo St. 44
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 05:32:25 PM

Geneseo 61, BS 51 at 9:40 ...........Bengal J. Simmons hits a three ........61-54 .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 05:40:15 PM

We go final .....we think .....Plattsburgh will win ........71-54 a good guess ... S. McIntosh and J.Perez split 32 points for the Burgh. Potsdam gets 23(10x17fg) from R. Duquette
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 05:46:24 PM

Cortland nabs 10th win with 82-55 rolling of guest New Paltz. RDragons 29x70fg. K. McMahon 15 pts(6x7fg), 9 rebs off bench. J. Winter 15 pts(8x8ft), 6 assts; H. Hefele 15 pts, 7 rebs; B. Manning 12 pts, 5 rebs. A dozen Corts score in game over at half for the most part .....22 pt. gap then. NP H. Wichard has 22 pts and M. Devine 11(3x6fg). Latter scoreless from field (0x1) till 16' left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2012, 05:56:13 PM
Oswego defeats Oneonta 67-55.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 05:57:05 PM
Oswego 67, Oneonta 55

Geneseo 76, Buffalo St. 71 with 1:06 left ..........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2012, 06:03:05 PM
Buffalo State down 76-70 with 1:39 to go gets a free throw and back to back 3 pointers from Anthony Hamer to take a 77-76 lead with 40 seconds left. Geneseo get 2 free throws to regain the lead with 36 seconds left. Buffalo works for a shot and calls time out with 9 seconds to go. Nico Mclean is fouled by Geneseo with 5 seconds left and makes 1 of 2 to tie it at 78. Geneseo's
long heave at the buzzer misses and we go to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 06:05:19 PM

Buffalo St. and Geneseo going to OT at 78-78 ....... N. McLean trey gives BS 77-76 lead at 0:40 .....Gens Marcus Hoy hits two FTs at 0:36 for one point lead. McLean makes first FT and misses second at 0:05  to deadlock
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Bengals open the OT with a layup by Hamer. Geneseo counters with 4 straight free throws by Gordon Lyon. Ryan Riefenhauser then hits a layup followed by 2 free throws by Bengals McLean to make it 84-82. Three straight Geneseo baskets make it 90-82 with 1:48 to go. Bengals have to foul and Geneseo aided by a technical hit 6 straight foul shots to put the game out of reach. Final score is 97-86.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 06:23:57 PM

Geneseo 97, Buffalo St. 86 in OT ......G. Lyons huge role off bench in victory ....Gens come up big at FT stripe. Buffs hurt by turnovers in extra period ......R. Riefenhauser 22 pts in win. His buckets at 2:41 and 1:48 provide 90-82 lead
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2012, 06:36:13 PM

Brockport 79, Fredonia 64

Geneseo goes 33x41 from the stripe to Buffs 13x22. Both with 21 turnovers but Bengals guilty of three big un's early in OT and Knights capitilize. G. Lyons' two FTs at 4:36 put Gens ahead. BS knots it but R. Riefenhauser layup off a turnover sends Gens up for keeps. Lyons hoop ups margin to four at 3:21. Marcus Hoy swipe at 3:11. Riefenhauser follows with two buckets for 90-82 edge. Lyons FTs at 1:29 make it 92-84. BS misses at the line. Leads to foul and technical and four straight Gens FTs at 0:54 to hike lead to 12. Riefenhauser 22 pts(11x18fg); C. Fedge 21 pts, 6 rebs; M. Curry 19 pts(8x10ft); Lyons 17 pts (13x14ft) and 11 rebs. Buffs J. Simmons 29 pts(10x19fg, 7x14 3s); A. Nagaya 16 pts including big late game dunk, and 9 reb, but 5pf; A. Homer 17 pts(7x9fg); N. McLean 10 pts, 6 rebs, 7 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2012, 07:48:30 PM
Plattsburgh State 71 Potsdam State 54

Plattsburgh outlasted the Bears in a contest that was closer then the final score indicates. Plattsburgh with an early lead stretched it to double figures at 18-8 midway through the 1st half. Bears clawed back into it with a 16-5 run of their own to take a 24-23 lead with 2:54 remaining. Teams trade baskets until Cards end the half with a driving layup by Shavar Fields and a three pointer by Jordan Moody who was just inserted into the game to go into the break up 30-26. Bears opened the 2nd period with a 9-2 burst to regain a 35-32 advantage. Several ties and lead changes would follow until the Cardinals down 41-39 got a triple from Shamoy McIntosh and after a Potsdam turnover, McIntosh was fouled on another 3 point attempt. He swished all 3 free throws and the Cards had a 45-41 lead with 9:45 to play. It was a lead they never relinquished. Closest the Bears got after that was a two possession game. After the Bears closed to 49-45, McIntosh hit another 3 pointer an Josh Bruno followed with a pair of foul shots.  Bears went to the line and missed the front end of a 1&1 and Reggie Williams, on a nice feed from Mike Mitchell had a monster dunk to boost the lead back to double digits at 56-45 with 5 minutes to play. Bears score on their next possession to get it under 10 but a foul followed by a technical gave the Cards 4 free throws. Plattsburgh nearly blew the opportunity as they missed 3 of the 4 foul shots but McIntosh got a big tip in on the fourth attempt to make it a 59-47 lead. Three straight Potsdam possessions come up empty and the Cardinals scored each time to put the game out of reach.

Cards were led by freshman Mcintosh (3x5 fg, 2x3 3's, 8x11 ft) and sophomore John Perez (5x10 fg, 6x9 ft) who both scored 16 points. Reggie Williams had his best day in a Cardinal uniform with his first double double of 12 points (6x8 fg) and 11 rebounds both career highs. He also had 3 blocks, although I counted at least 5. Josh Bruno came off the bench with some instant offense and scored 11 points (3x9 fg, 1x5 3's, 4x6 ft). Ketema Brooks only scored 3 points on his 1x2 attempts but had 5 assists and 4 steals. Cards shot 23x52 fg (44.2%), 5x15 3's (33.3%) and 20x33 ft (60.6%). They won both the rebounding battle (38 to 33) and the turnover margin as well (14 for the Cards to 20 for the Bears). 

Potsdam was led by former Plattsburgh area player Rob Duquette who was the game's high scorer with 23 points (10x17 fg, 0x2 3's, 3x6 ft) and 9 rebounds. No other Potsdam player was in double figures. Potsdam's leading scorer Curtis Pierce suffered an injury and had to leave the game with 9:33 left to play. He had scored 4 points with 8 rebounds and 3 assists up to that point. Tony Efese was the 2nd highest scorer for the Bears with 8 points. Bears shot 22x56 fg, (39.3%), 3x14 3's (21.4%) and 7x15 ft (46.7%).

Plattsburgh improves to 6-7 overall and 4-3 in SUNYAC play. This marked the first time the Cards have won back to back games all year. Coach Curle said going in, that this was a goal they had yet to accomplish and that they had to protect home court. Both of these were realized with the win today and Plattsburgh has moved from 5th place into a tie for 3rd with Buffalo State. The Cardinals will now enter a 5 game stretch that starts with 3 road contests against Fredonia, then nationally ranked Buffalo St (currently #21, but not for long), next weekend, and then a trip to the top ranked team in all of Division 3, #1 Middlebury Panthers on Jan. 24th. They then return to Memorial Hall to face off against #23 Oswego State (who will also probably drop out of the Top 25) and finish that stretch against 2nd place in the YAC, Cortland State. I'll be happy if they can go 2-3 in that stretch.

Potsdam falls to 4-9 overall and 2-5 in the conference. They are now tied with Fredonia for the 8th and final playoff spot. They will face off against the Blue Devils next weekend right after they visit Buffalo State. That Fredonia game could be a big factor in determining who's in and who's out. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2012, 08:34:47 PM
Oswego State 67 Oneonta State 55

This was no walk in the park for the Lakers as they had trouble putting Oneonta away. After getting out of the gate early with a 9-1 start the Red Dragons caught up and tied it at 11 with 13 minutes to play in the 1st half. An 11-2 run gave Oswego their first double digit lead but the Red Dragons cut it to 5 with 1:20 left in the period. The Lakers then scored on their final 2 possessions to go into the break up by 10 at 33-23. Oswego opened the 2nd period just as they did at the start of the game as 6 quick points gave them a 16 point bulge and it looked like the rout was on. After back and forth play, Oswego was still up by 15 at 46-31, with 10 minutes remaining. It was then that Oneonta gave the Lakers fans a scare as they scored 10 unanswered points to cut the lead to 5 at 46-41 with 6:30 to play. Oswgo regains the momentum however, and stretches the advantage to 56-44 and basically puts the game away. Lakers hit 8x10 from the line down the stretch and they bump the lead back up to 15, before an Oneonta 3 pointer at the buzzer cuts it to the 12 point final margin.

Lakers with balanced scoring as 5 players net double figures. Chad Burridge was the leader wirth 13 points followed by Chris Gilkes
with 12, Conor Monaghan with 12 (who came off the bench but played for 17 minutes tonight. Last night he only saw 3 minutes of PT), Sean Michele with 11 and Hayden Ward with 10. Ward was the leading rebounder with 11 and Burridge added 8. Lakers shot 21x49 fg, (42.9%), 10x21 3's (47.6%) and 15x18 ft (83.3%) They had 33 rebounds to 23 for Oneonta and both teams had 12 turnovers.

Oneonta was led by Nick Sarchioto with 16 points and Frankie Kelly with 11. Cameron Boyd added 8 points and 10 boards. Red Dragons shot 22x47 fg, (46.8%), 5x14 3's, (35.75) and 6x8 ft, (75%).

Oswego improves to 11-3 overall and 7-0 in the conference. They have opened up a one and a half game lead on Cortland but have a 2 game lead in the loss column. Hard to see them losing 3 conference games and it's looking more and more like the road to the SUNYAC crown will once again have to go through Max Zeil Gym at Laker Hall. The Lakers will be off until next Saturday when their closest pursuer, Cortland, comes to town. A win in that game will just about sew up home court for Burridge and company.

Oneonta is now 1-13 on the year and still winless in the YAC. They host Geneseo then Brockport next weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 15, 2012, 09:33:22 AM
After a long layoff the scooterman has returned to the board. Everything going well down here in Florida and I see my beloved Eagles are coming to life. Coach Dunne and the Eagles had difficult early schedule with alot of new faces on the squad. They seem to be putting all the pieces together and are ready to make their sprint to the YAC playoffs and be a true contender. I think they got all the "right stuff" and hopefully this past weekends triumphs will let them see the light. Good luck, Eagles and watch out SUNYAC!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2012, 02:23:32 PM
Geneseo State 97  Buffalo State 86

It's not hard to imagine how important one player can be to a team and Buffalo State found that out this weekend. The loss of Justin Mitchell in the lineup resulted in a lost weekend for the Bengals. It's been over a year since Buff State lost 2 games in a row. When they looked at their schedule at the start of this semester, I don't think they anticipated losing back to back games to Brockport and Geneseo. Both teams had struggled early with bad losing streaks and had losing records. The Bengals were coming off 2 nice wins against Catholic and Wesleyan. They were slowly moving up in the rankings and the return matchup with Oswego, on the final weekend of the regular season, looked to be a battle for the top seed. This weekend changed all that. Unless Mitchell can get healthy in a hurry, the Bengals might not even host a first round matchup.
   
In the game yesterday afternoon the teams played on even terms through the first 7 minutes of play when Geneseo scored 7 unanswered points to grab a 26-18 lead. Bengals cut it to 4 but Geneseo scored 5 straight points to open up their biggest lead of the half at 34-25 with 4:44 to play. Bengals narrowed the lead, thanks to 6 late Geneseo turnovers and went into the break only down by 3 at 40-37. The second half was a replay of the first with the Bengals keeping it close but not quite able to gain the lead. The Blue Knights were leading 48-46 with 4:30 gone in the period when they used an 11-2 run to open up their largest lead of either half at 59-48. The Bengals cut into the lead but were still down by 8 with only 1:45 to play after Blue Knights Ryan Riefenhauser made a layup to make it 76-68. Again, just like in the first period, Geneseo fails to take care of the ball and 2 straight turnovers lead to 6 Bengal points. Bengal foul puts Geneseo on the line but Blue Knights miss them both and Nico McLean completes a 9-0 Bengal run with a 3 pointer to give Buffalo State their first lead since the beginning of the game. Geneseo regains the lead on 2 free throws by Marcus Hoy with 36 seconds left, but Bengals McLean is fouled with 5 ticks left. He makes the first to tie the game at 78 but misses the potential game winner and Geneseo's long attempt at the buzzer is no good and the teams go to overtime. Bengals open the OT with a layup by Hamer. Geneseo counters with 4 straight free throws by Gordon Lyon. Ryan Riefenhauser then hits a layup followed by 2 free throws by Bengals McLean to make it 84-82. Three straight Geneseo baskets make it 90-82 with 1:48 to go. Bengals have to foul and Geneseo aided by a technical hit 6 straight foul shots to put the game out of reach. Final score is 97-86.

Geneseo was led by Ryan Riefenhauser with 22 points (11x18 fg) and Connor Fedge with 21 (5x9 fg, 0x1 3's, 11x14 ft). Matt Curry had 19 points (8x10 fg, 3x4 3's), while Gordon Lyons came off the bench to add a double double of 17 points (2x7 fg, 13x17 ft) and 12 rebounds. Blue Knights shot 30x59 fg (50.8%), 4x8 3's (50%) and 33x41 ft (80.5%) Geneseo had 44 rebounds to 36 for the Bengals and 22 turnovers to 21 for Buff. St.

Bengals were led once again by Jake Simmons who led all scorers with 29 points (10x20 fg, 7x15 3's 2x2 ft). Anthony Hamer came off the bench to score 17 points (7x10 fg, 1x3 3's, 2x5 ft). Ahmed Nagaya had 16 points (7x11 fg, 2x3 ft) and 9 rebounds. Nico McLean scored 10 points (2x10 fg, 1x3 3's, 5x6 ft), had 7 assists, 6 rebounds, and 5 steals. Bengals shot 32x75 fg (42.7%), 9x26 3's (34.6%) and 13x22 ft (59.1%). The big discrepancy of the game was the free throws where the Blue Knights had almost twice as many attempts and outscored the Bengals by 20 points at the line. That's not a stat that you'll see too often. It's tough to win if you get outscored by 10 points at the line, almost impossible if you give the other team a 20 point edge in that category.

Geneseo improves to 5-8 overall and 3-3 in the conference and sole possession of 6th place. They host travel partner Brockport State on Tuesday at 8 PM.

Buffalo State falls to 11-4 overall and 4-3 in the YAC and is tied with Plattsburgh for 3rd place. They will host the Cardinals next Saturday at 4 PM for possible sole possession of the third spot. But first they will take on the Potsdam Bears on Friday night at 8 PM.
             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2012, 11:26:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 15, 2012, 02:23:32 PM
The big discrepancy of the game was the free throws where the Blue Knights had almost twice as many attempts and outscored the Bengals by 20 points at the line. That's not a stat that you'll see too often. It's tough to win if you get outscored by 10 points at the line, almost impossible if you give the other team a 20 point edge in that category.           

"mama said there'd be days like this" THAT! :'(. 1 heck of an observation magicman. I've been told that 2 of local news stations/press  roasted the officials from the day before, who gave Fredonia a foul with (what 2 Geneseo supporters said was) 1 tenth of a second left on the clock. You know the rest. I've been following BENGAL basketball for at least 4 years and I've never seen such a discrpency in FTA. I actually made the trip down to Geneseo and this 1 was tough to watch!!

Having said all that the BENGALS still should have won....and we didn't >:(. No excuses..just lost !!

Well at least the Giants won!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 04:38:59 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 poll was released and as expected both Oswego State and Buffalo State have dropped off. Oswego fell from #22 into the others receiving votes category. Their point total dropped from 102 down to 47 which puts them in 27th place. The Lakers need another long winning streak like the one they put together at this time last year. Doing so will push them back into the lower spots of the Top 25, but I don't think they'll ever get higher than #20. A few wins in the NCAA's of course, could change that. Getting there, however isn't guaranteed. Last year their 2nd half run carried them to the top of the East Region. Losing in the SUNYAC tournament only took a little luster off that sparkling campaign as they were a shoo in for an at large bid. With several teams in front of them at the present time, that Pool C bid may become elusive this year. The unexpected loss at Medgar Evers last week was a hiccup that could lead to indigestion. Luckily with all the inconsistency in the region this year, the Lakers are still in the mix for a Pool C bid should they get upset in the playoffs.     

Buffalo State took one of the biggest falls of the week in terms of their point total as they lost 110 points. That was every point they had. It appears that the voters either don't know or don't care about the injury to Justin Mitchell. Missing Mitchell was a big reason they went 0-2 over the weekend. The complete disappearance of the Bengals from the poll at this stage of the season will prevent them from a return into the Top 25. A long winning streak may see their re-emergence into the ORV category but I don't see them gaining enough support to actually crack the Top 25  again, unless they get into and make a run in the NCAA tournament to make the final poll.
Just a short while ago it looked like both the Lakers and the Bengals had a solid shot at making the dance. Now Buffalo State has left themselves with a slim margin for error. They need to hope that Hobart, Hartwick and especially NYU do real well and win Pool A bids or very poorly and fall behind them in the regional rankings. Right now the Bengals have fallen so low, they aren't even in the projected regional rankings. They have an upward climb but not impossible to attain. They do need Mitchell back though and in a hurry. NYU, with no conference tournament to decide that league's Pool A bid, could be front and center for a Pool C if they fail to win the UAA regular season. That could hurt both SUNYAC teams down the road.

NYU had 2 big wins over the weekend. They knocked #4 Emory from the undefeated ranks with an 89-73 win on Friday and came back on Sunday to blow out previously ranked Rochester 74-50. Those two victories catapulted the Violets from 0 points to 87 and into the #23 spot. They are now the only East region team in the Top 25 and with Oswego are the only two teams in the region getting any recognition. Their stay in the rankings may be a short one, however as they hit the road this weekend for two tough games at Chicago and then Washington University. I can see them winning the Chicago game, but the game against Wash U could be for 1st place in the conference and I think the Bears will win that one.

Rochester with 3 straight conference road losses and a 9-5 overall record has slowly seen all their support disappear as well. The Yellowjackets along with Emory were picked to win the UAA crown. Now they find themselves in last place in a tough conference. Their pre-season #7 ranking and subsequent tumble out of sight is remniscent of Chicago University's Top 25 pre-season placement a few years ago. The Maroons were ranked #22 had a ton of returning players but opened the season with 12 straight losses. While Rochester's fall isn't quite that dramatic and there's still time to turn the season around they will need one heckuva run to make the NCAA tournament. Not having a conference tournament puts them behind the 8-ball, and 1 or 2 more losses could make an at large bid impossible to attain.

Hartwick also fell from the ORV category. They weren't getting a lot of support in the polls even when they were 12-0. But some recognition is better than none and now with back to back losses they have dropped off the radar completely. In a year where Ithaca, St. John Fisher, and Nazareth seemed to be struggling, the Hawks, with all their returning talent, looked like the team to beat in the E8. Maybe they can right the ship and win the E8 crown. If not, they still have a pretty good in region record and currently would be among the top 3. They just need to stay up there.

Hobart, Nazareth, Stevens, and Medaille, are 4 other teams that merit watching in the region. Of the four only Hobart has received some support in the Top 25 poll. The Statesmen garnered points in the 1st four weeks of the poll with a high point of 34 in week two. After a loss to Rochester on December 10th, they barely got a mention and then dropped completely out after week 4. With a 10-2 record and currently in 1st place in the Liberty League, Hobart could have a strong enough record that they could gain a Pool C bid in the event they don't win the Liberty League tournament. The Statesmen are hungry as they missed the dance last year when they owned the best regular season record but lost to Hamilton in the playoffs. And that loss occurred in the semi finals instead of the championship game, which probably cost them a Pool C bid.

Stevens has quietly put together a 12-2 mark and their win over Ithaca College on Saturday left them in sole possession of 1st place in the E8. The Ducks host Nazareth this Friday with 1st place on the line. If one of these teams wins the Pool A bid from the E8, then the other one could be in line for an at large bid.

Medaille also 12-2,  is leading the AMCC conference and already owns a win over Nazareth. Their strength of schedule usually drags them down in the regional rankings but if they keep winning, and there's no reason to think they won't, they could challenge for a Pool C bid should they need to go that route to make the dance.           
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 12:21:40 PM
Brockport's Kyheem Green has been named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending January 14th. Green who went on the injured list back in December and missed the Golden Eagles final 2 games of the first semester returned to the lineup on January 3rd and led the team in scoring with 17 points in a win at St. Lawrence. Last week Brockport won 2 conference games over Buffalo St and Fredonia to climb back into the SUNYAC race. In the 3 games since his return he has led the Golden Eagles in points scored (50) and rebounds (15) as the team has improved their record to 5-7 overall and 3-2 in the conference. The Eagles will be on the road this week with 3 league games at Geneseo on Tuesday, New Paltz on Friday and Oneonta on Saturday. Currently in 3rd place in the YAC, Brockport is tied with Cortland in the loss column. A sweep this week, which is a definite possiblity, and they will host the Red Dragons one week from today, with 2nd place at stake.

Here is the press release from the SUNYAC website announcing Green's selection:

Senior forward Kyheem Green (Huntington Station, NY/Walt Whitman) of The College at Brockport Men's Basketball team has been named the State University of the New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) Player of the Week following the Golden Eagles 2-0 conference weekend.

During the weekend, Green averaged 16.5 points, six rebounds, 2.5 blocked shots and 2.5 steals. Green shot 71.4 percent from the field on 15-21 shooting in the two games.

In a 94-70 upset victory over No. 21 Buffalo State on Friday night, Green scored a team-high 21 points, his second highest total of the season. Green shot 10-14 from the floor while grabbing six rebounds and blocking four shots.

On Saturday, Brockport defeated Fredonia State 79-64. Green scored 12 points on 5-7 shooting. Green also grabbed six rebounds and collected four steals against the Blue Devils.

Green is averaging 15.8 points per game this season, good enough for fifth in the SUNYAC conference. His 8.2 rebounds per game are fourth in the conference and 1.90 blocks per game are third. Green leads the conference in field goal shooting at 62 percent.


   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 06:45:30 PM
Three games scheduled for tonight.

Running late so I'll have to make these short.

Potsdam at St. Lawrence   7:00 PM

Both teams lost to Plattsburgh, both teams lost to Clarkson, both teams lost to Brockport. Bears lost to Oswego State, Saints didn't. That's enough for me. Line has the Saints favored by 8. Slu wins it 67-61. Might be more if Bear's Pierce is out. Hope I'm wrong and the Bears grab a W here.

Utica at Cortland State   7:00 PM

The Red Dragons are clearly the better team in this matchup. With home court advantage they should handle a struggling Pioneers' team. Utica is 4-10 overall and yet to win a game in the E8. Cortland 10-4 and 2-1 in the E8. Oddsmakers have Cortland favored by 12. Red Dragons win this one 83-70.

Brockport State at Geneseo State 8:00 PM

Brockport on a roll, winners of last 3. Geneseo has won 3 of last 4 with zebragate against Fredonia their only loss. Pointspread favors the Golden Eagles by 3. Tough call here as both teams finding their rhythm, but I think Brockport will win a close one 81-78. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2012, 07:39:16 PM

Cortland 38, Utica 20 at the half ......J. Winter 11 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2012, 07:47:47 PM

Potsdam trails St. Lawrence 37-21 at the break
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 17, 2012, 07:47:47 PM

Potsdam trails St. Lawrence 37-21 at the break

And what I thought might happen-no Curtis Pierce. Doubt the Bears will keep this one close.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 08:37:04 PM
Cortland wins 73-62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 08:40:25 PM
Potsdam gets buried by St. Lawrence 73-42
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2012, 08:41:10 PM
Cortland topples Utica 73-62. Leads by 20 starting second half. UC within eight midway and late. B. Manning 19 pts(9x15fg), 4 reb for 11-4 RDragons, whose J. Winter collects 17 pts(7x14fg, 3x9 3s), leading 6 rebs, 4 assts; J. Smith 14 pts. Ward paces Pioneers with 13 pts but 5pf with 6' left. Only UCer in double figures pointwise. J. McClendon with 11 rebs, 8 pts. UC 4-11. Corts 29x65fg, 7x29 3s, 8x13ft, 34 rebs; UC 22x55fg, 2x9 3s, 16x23ft, 42 reb
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 08:42:35 PM
Geneseo leads Brockport at the half 36-25.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 09:07:12 PM
St. Lawrence 72 Potsdam 42

Bears knocked out in the 1st round as SLU jumps out to a 17-4  advantage. Lead stays between 12 and 16 throughout the period. Potsdam down at the break 37-21. Second verse same as the first as Bears only manage 21 points in this period. At least they were consistent. Saints up by 20 with half the period to go and stretch it to 36 with 3:19 left. No Bear player hits double figures. Watched Rob Duquette tear it up last Saturday in Plattsburgh with 20+ points and thought he'd be hard to stop as the Saints aren't that stong in the paint. Cards had trouble stopping him with their bigs but tonight he practically disappears with only 5 points and 2 rebounds. Bears shot terrible. 14x43 fg, 0x12 3's, 14x26 ft. Brad Drysdale with 9 points was the high scorer for Potsdam.

Terry Parham led the Saints with 14 points and Ralph Temgoua added 13. Saints 27x55 fg, 7x19 3's, 12x17 ft. SLU with rebounding edge 39 to 27.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
Brockport and Geneseo go down to the wire with the Blue knights up 65-61 with 1:15 to play. Brockports Gerald Williams hits a three to make it 65-64 with a minute to go and 15 seconds later Geneseo turns it over. Brockport misses a layup with 27 seconds left and they are forced to foul with 15 seconds to play. Blue Knights Gordon Lyons makes both free throws to make it a 3 point lead. Port scores a layup with 3 seconds to go and then gets a turnover on the inbounds pass with 2 seconds left. They take a timeout to set up a final shot but Lyons gets a steal and the game is over. Final score 67-66 Geneseo. Fitting that Lyons stole the ball on the game's final play because he was the one who turned it over after the last Brockport basket with 3 ticks left.

Geneseo was in control for most of the 1st half as they took the lead 4:20 into the period. Eagles would tie it up several times but could never get the lead. Tied at 12, the Blue Knights opened some daylight with a 12-2 run and extended their lead to 13 points on several occasions before settling for a 36-25 halftime edge. Port opened the 2nd period with an 11-3 burst and closed to 39-36 but the Blue Knights always had an answer to keep them at bay. Brockport had it down to a two point 46-44 deficit, but again, back to back buckets by the Knights gave then some breathing room. Down 60-53 with 5:49 left the Eagles made a final push and got to within a single point at 62 to 61. Knight's Mike Hoy made 1 of 2 foul shots and perhaps the key play of the game occured with 1:44 left on the clock when Lyons stole the ball on the Eagles next possession. A Brockport foul sent Lyons to the line and he made them both to make it a 65-61 two possession lead. Without that steal it's possible that the Eagles tie it up or take the lead with a 3 ball, but instead find themselves down by four with 1:15 to play to set up the finale.

Geneseo was led by Ryan Riefenhauser with 16 pts (7x9 fg, 2x4 ft) and 6 rebounds. Gordon Lyons almost equaled that with 16 points (5x9 fg, 6x7 ft) and 4 rebounds. Matt Curry and Mike Hoy both added 10 points, and Curry led the team with 8 boards. Knights were 22x49 fg, 3x7 3's, and 20x26 ft. Blue Knights dominated the boards 34 to 21 and had 18 turnovers to 14 for the Eagles.

The Knights went to the line for 26 attempts while Brockport only had 8 attempts. It's the 2nd straight outing that Geneseo had a huge advantage from the charity stripe, which helped them win 2 extremely close games, . Buffalo St. and Brockport were on the short end of those scores. Geneseo has had 67 free throws in those 2 games. The opponents have had 29 attempts.

Brockport was led by Jon Ivy with 20 points (10x15 fg, 0x1 3's) 5 rebounds and 3 steals. Gerald Williams had 17 points (7x14 fg, 3x7 3's) while Kyheem Green and Donnell Jackson both scored 11. Eagles were 28x55 fg, 4x17 3's, 6x8 ft).

Geneseo ups their record to 6-8 for the season. They move into a three way tie for third place in the SUNYAC with Plattsburgh and Buffalo State at 4-3, but currently hold the tiebreaker against both of these teams. They travel to Oneonta, then New Paltz this weekend.

Brockport has their winning streak end at three games and falls to 5-8 overall, 3-3 in the conference. They will return to action this Friday at New Paltz.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2012, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 17, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
   67-66 Geneseo.

...And as we head to the midpoint of the season this weekend (actually next Tuesday) 3rd to 6th place are in a virtual tie (separated by half a game). Gotta love this time of the season.

1 question???? Can anyone catch Oswego? Dying to see what the pundits predict ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2012, 04:35:51 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2012, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 17, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
   67-66 Geneseo.

...And as we head to the midpoint of the season this weekend (actually next Tuesday) 3rd to 6th place are in a virtual tie (separated by half a game). Gotta love this time of the season.

1 question???? Can anyone catch Oswego? Dying to see what the pundits predict ;)

I don't know if I'm the pundit you're dying to see, predict, but,

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS.....NO THEY CAN'T!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2012, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 18, 2012, 04:35:51 AM
I don't know if I'm the pundit you're dying to see, predict, but,

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS.....NO THEY CAN'T!

Magicman....Why don't you tell me how you REALLY feel?? ;)

P.s. nice choice of colors! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2012, 05:41:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2012, 02:19:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 18, 2012, 04:35:51 AM
I don't know if I'm the pundit you're dying to see, predict, but,

THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS.....NO THEY CAN'T!

Magicman....Why don't you tell me how you REALLY feel?? ;)

P.s. nice choice of colors! :)

In my best Dickie V impression:    Laker Green Baby, Laker Green
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2012, 11:29:05 AM
Magicman and Dickie V! Now there's a visual!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 07:19:39 PM
Four games on the schedule tonight, all at 8:00 PM

Geneseo State at Oneonta State

Blue Knights continue to rebound from a 1-6 start, going 5-2 in their last 7 games. Currently in a tie for 3rd place with Plattsburgh and Buffalo State, at 4-3 in the Yac, but own the tiebreaker over both teams as of now. This weekend could provide some separation in a 5 team logjam. Geneseo has lost 2 games that they'd like to have back, the letdown at Potsdam, the day after routing Plattsburgh, and the narrow loss to Fredonia that was decided by a zebra with less than a second on the game clock. Oneonta is still looking for that elusive 1st conference win. I don't think they'll find it tonight either. Oddsmakers have installed Geneseo as a 2 point favorite, but I think they'll win by more than that. Blue Knights 72 Oneonta 58.

Potsdsam State at Buffalo State

Bears continue to struggle. Bengals starting to struggle. Injuries could come into play for both teams tonight. Bear's All Conference guard Curtis Pierce missed the end of the Plattsburgh game and all of the St. Lawrence game. The offense will feel the effects of his absence. Bears haven't scored more than 56 points in 5 of their last 6 games. Equaled their season's lowest output of 42 points on Tuesday at SLU. Bengals missed All Conference forward Justin Mitchell in a huge way last weekend, dropping back to back games for the first time in over a year. Status of both players are questionable for tonight. Potsdam is currently tied with Fredonia for the final playoff spot and tomorrow night's game against the Blue Devils may go a long way in determining who ends up with it. Buffalo State looking to sweep this weekend and get back in the regular season race. The posted line has the Bengals favored by 18, and even with out Mitchell the Bears seem up against it. I think the final will be something like 81-59.

Brockport State at New Paltz State

Brockport saw their first winning streak of a disappointing season come to an end Tuesday night with a narrow 67-66 loss at Geneseo. A sweep last weekend found the Golden Eagles in sole possession of 3rd place but they've since fallen back into 6th place a half game behind the group in 3rd. The good news is Kyheem Green is back and firing on all cylinders, plus they get to play Oneonta tomorrow night. The bad news is they have to take on New Paltz in Hawk Center and the Hawks have only lost 1 conference game there (to Buff St.) this year going 3-1. It's a good thing because they've yet to win a YAC game on the road. Plus their 3 home wins have been against the bottom 3 teams in the standings. Both teams love to push the ball and I expect this game to be fast paced. Brockport is favored by 3 points and I think it will be a close game but I don't know if it will be that close. Brockport is 9-1 the last ten times these teams have met. I think it will be 10-1 after tonight. Brockport 83 New Paltz 76.

Plattsburgh State at Fredonia State

I'd just as soon not make a prediction here, because I'm not sure what I'm going to say. Cardinals need to go 1-1 this weekend to stay in the race for a upper division spot. This would appear to be the easier of the 2 weekend games and their best chance to grab a W. They literally have had an up and down season. They have finally put together 2 wins in a row, but making it to three will prove to be a challenge. They haven't played well on the road with their only 2 victories coming against 2 teams with a combined 5-22 record. It's basically a team of freshman and sophomores playing against a veteran Fredonia squad of juniors and seniors. Experience factor alone should give the Blue Devils the edge. Fredonia has to make a push to get into the playoffs. With a schedule that finds them finishing against the current top 4 teams in the YAC and more importantly their final 2 games on the road at Cortland, then Oswego, they need to get their wins when they can. Oddsmakers have made the Blue Devils a 6 point favorite. I see them winning this game 70-68.  What was I thinking? ???  I can't do that. Plattsburgh wins this game 70-68. ;D There I said it, my heart's on my sleeve. Go Cards.....Please.  (I just know I'm going to regret picking The Cards, because my entire body of knowledge tells me Fredonia's going to win this game. But what the hey, my season's record is pretty gaudy and I can afford a loss, should that happen. Besides Fredonia, at home is only 4-4 against the Cards in the past 8 years.) Did I say Go Cards!!!?   


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 08:33:53 PM
Halftime score:   Buffalo State 45       Potsdam State 28
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
Brockport 42 New Paltz 29 at the half.

Plattsburgh 32 Fredonia 27 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 08:41:02 PM
At the half Geneseo and Oneonta tied at 30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 09:32:47 PM
Brockport crushes New Paltz 91-66.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 09:36:11 PM
Buffalo State all over Potsdam  86-63.

Geneseo downs Oneonta 61-51.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
Fredonia State defeats Plattsburgh 70-63.  Ouch! That hurts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 11:08:12 PM
Buffalo State 86 Potsdm State 63

Potsdam hung with the Bengals for the first 5 minutes with a 10-10 tie but Buffalo outscored them 16-6 over the next 6 minutes to take a double digit lead at 26-16. They increased that margin to 40-24 with 3:42 left in the period. After reaching a 19 point advantage they went into break up 45-28. With 5 minutes gone by in the 2nd period the lead was at 28 and it was just a matter of what the final margin would be. With 10 minutes left in the game Coach Ansari started to empty the bench.

Nico McLean led 4 players in double figures with 17 points. Jake Simmons had 16, Roderick Epps had 12 and Stephen Alexander had 10. Ahmed Nagaya led the Bengals in rebounds with 11 while scoring 8 points. Bengals shot 32x65 fg, 10x22 3's, and 12x16 ft. They had 38 boards to 33 for Potsdam and ended up with 16 turnovers to 21 for the Bears.

Potsdam was led by Curtis Pierce with 14 points and 4 rebounds. Rob Duquette was next with 9 points and 4 boards. Bears shot 24x54 fg, 1x10 3's, and 14x25 ft.

Bengals go to 12-4 overall and 5-3 in the YAC. They will host Plattsburgh State tomorrow afternoon at 4 PM.

Potsdam falls to 4-11 for the season an 2-6 in the conference they will be at Fredonia tomorrow afternoon aat 4 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2012, 11:50:32 PM
Geneseo 61 Oneonta 51

Numerous ties and lead changes highlighted a back and forth first half with Oneonta owning the largest leads of the period at 17-12 and 23-18. Geneseo fought back on each occasion and the teams went into the locker room tied at 30 when the half ended. The 2nd period started out much the same way with the team trading baskets that saw the game tied 5 times befor the Blue Knights used a three ball by Thomas Decker at the 11:44 mark to grab the lead for good at 46-43. Oneonta closed to within 1 at 48-47 and then went over 8 minutes and 16 seconds without scoring a point, as the Blue Knights built an insurmountable lead of 61-47 with under 2 minutes to play. Geneseo never scored again in the final 1:57 but didn't need to as the Red Dragons could only manage 4 points themselves to make the final a 10 point margin. Oneonta only scored 21 points in the entire 2nd half and only 4 points in the final 10 minutes, 2 of which came from the foul line. This is almost an instant replay of the game that Oneonta played against Hartwick earlier in the season.

Geneseo had 3 players in double figures, Jordan Jones, Matt Curry, and Connor Fedge all with 10 points. Jones and Ryan Riefenhauser led the Blue Knights with 7 rebounds each to win the glass wars 35 -27. Geneseo had 12 turnovers to 10 for Oneonta. Blue Knights were 21x45 fg, 6x10 3's, 13x21 ft.

Oneonta was led by Dan Lee with 11 points. Cameron Boyden had 9 points and 5 rebounds. They shot 17x47 fg, 5x14 3's, 12x21 ft.

Geneseo almost evens their record as they improve to 7-8 and keep pace with the Bengals with a 5-3 mark in the league. They will travel to New Paltz State tomorrow afternoon at 4 PM.

Oneonta falls to 1-14 on the year,  0-8 in the conference. Tomorrow they will most likely  fall to 1-15 as Brockport comes to town in a 4 P M contest.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 03:22:48 PM

From Friday ....

Fredonia scores first 14 points of second half to reverse halftime deficit. Plattsburgh starts half scoreless over six minutes but returns to take 52-50 lead at 6:32. Freds K. Mitchell dunk knots it and A. Billups trey gives Devils lead for keeps. Burgh twice with a hoop thereafter. J. Bryant 17 pts(6x10fg) and Billups 17 pts(5x9 3s) pace Freds. L. Smith 11 pts,  Mitchell 10 pts, J. Herrera 5 of Devils 18 assts. They go 26x53fg, 6x15 3s and outboard Cards 34-26. Pburgh's S. Fields 17 pts(6x13fg), 6 rebs, 8 trnvrs; J. Perez 15 pts(6x10fg), 6 trnvrs in 40'; M. Mitchell 11 pts; J. Moody 11 pts

Brockport sees New Paltz within nine at 17:01. K. Green scoring keys Eagles pullaway. Port 33x61fg, 8x18 3s, 40-26 board advantage. J. Ivy 22 pts(9x12fg), 5 rebs in 20'; G. Williams 15 pts(5x9fg); D. Jackson 12 pts(4x8fg), 3 assts; Green  12 pts(5x7fg), 5 rebs, 3 blks; D. Klein 6 of Eagles 19 assts. NP M. Devine 27 pts(6x17fg, 13x14ft); H. Wichard 14 pts, 3 assts; N. Taldi 10 pts. Hawks 20x55fg, 20x26ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 04:41:35 PM
Buffalo State all over Plattsburgh State 54 35 at the half.  Bengals Jake Simmons on fire with 22 points at halftime. He's 8x15 from the field with 6 of those coming from downtown. JohnPerez leads theCardinals with 10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 04:42:45 PM
Fredonia leads Potsdam 24-11 at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 04:47:37 PM
Big shocker coming out of Oneonta as Brockport trails the Red Dragons 36-18 at the half. Dan Lee leads Oneonta with 11 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
Geneseo leads New Paltz 48-36 in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 21, 2012, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2012, 04:42:45 PM
Fredonia leads Potsdam 24-11 at the break.

11 points in 20 minutes - I think thats a "new low".

Bears mounted a mighty comeback and actually led 34-30 in 2nd half.  Devils now lead 41-36 with under three to play, this is in the era of the three point shot and the shot clock.  Hard to believe.  I have seen several zebra calls that belong in the hall of shame, especially since I am viewing from the west coast.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 21, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
Fredonia leads 43-39 with 1 min left.  Bears only have 4 PF's so two to give and possibly get a steal on the OOB.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 05:32:17 PM
Geneseo defeats New Paltz 80-69. Modified this score as livestats had it 80-70, but New Paltz website shows it as 80-69.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 05:35:36 PM
Buffalo State just killing Plattsburgh 102-57 with 3:40 to go. Jake Simmons left the game with about 7 minutes to play. Only had 37 points. 13x24 fg, 9x17 3 pointers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
Brockport has come all the way back and now leads Oneonta 49-44 with 3:52 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 05:38:33 PM
Fredonia beats Potsdam 47-44.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
Buffalo State wins big 110-58 over Plattsburgh State.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 05:55:07 PM
Brockport now trailing Oneonta 55-54 with 36 seconds to go. Time out called by Oneonta and they have the ball. Oneonta calls another time out. Red Dragons come out of the TO and Frankie Kelly hits a jumper to make it 57-54. With 12 seconds left Oneonta fouls Jon Ivy of Brockport. He makes the first and misses the 2nd free throw. Time out Brockport. Port fouls Kelly and he makes them both with 8 seconds left. Ports Ivy goes coast to coast for a layup with 3 ticks to make it 59-57. Port fouls again and Oneonta misses both foul shots. Brockport rebounds but can't get the tying shot to go, if they even got one off. Red Dragons from Oneonta grab their first SUNYAC win of the year in dramatic fashion beating the Golden Eagles 59-57.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 07:38:14 PM
Buffalo State 110  Plattsburgh 68

This game was never close after the first 6 minutes. Plattsburgh led 9-7 at the 16:16 mark when the Bengals Jake Simmons nails 3 triples on 4 Bengal possessions to open up a 16-11 lead with 14:19 to go. They stretched it to 11 points at 29-18 and after the Cardinals closed to within 6 the Bengals roared to a 41-27 edge with 5 minutes left in the half. Cards cut it to 10 with 3:48 to play and the Bengals for all intensive purposes put the game away with an 11-2 run to end the half and take a 19 point 54-35 lead into the break. The only way this would become a competitive contest was if Plattsburgh Coach Curle could work some halftime magic. Apparently he couldn't pull a rabbit out of his hat because the Bengals steadily increased their lead and with 10:23 remaing in the period Buffalo State had a 30 point margin at 81-51. Jake Simmons just made triple after triple and left the game with 37 points, nine 3 pointers and plenty of time on the clock. If this game had been close and he was needed there's no telling how many 3 balls Jake might have swished. I tried to look up the SUNYAC record for most 3's in a single game but the YAC doesn't give you regular season single game records. They do it for baseball but not for hoops. :o ??? They do give single game records for the SUNYAC Basketball Tournament and that record is 8 triples, held by Jeff Robbins from Oswego who did it against Oneonta in 2003. The record for 3 point attempts is 17, held by Bernard Crawford from Oneonta against Buffalo State in 1995. Tonight, although it's not a tournamnet game,Jake would have  broken Robbins' mark with 9 and tied Crawford's mark with 17 three point attempts. The tournament mark for most field goal attempts is also held by Crawford in that same game with 28.Tonight Jake had 24. He finished with 37 points on 13x24 fg, 9x17 threes, and 2x2 ft. Ahmed Nagaya had 17 points (6x10 fg, 5x7 3's) and 11 rebounds. Nico McLean added 11 points (4x6 fg, 3x3 3's), 5 asssists, 4 rebounds and a steal. Norman Simmons had 9 points, (4x5 fg, 1x1 ft), with 5 steals, 4 assists,and 3 rebounds. The Bengals were a pack a thieves  tonight as they had 15 steals. It's the third time they've played a team of Cardinals (Wesleyan, and Catholic U, being the others) and they've feasted on all three. Buffalo state shot lights out, and were better from downtown than from the field. They were 42x72 from the field for 58.3%. Shot 15x25 from behind the arc for an even 60%. They were only 11x17 from the line for 64.7 %. I guess they need to work on that. They won the battle of the boards 42 to 39 and had 24 turnovers to 29 for Plattsburgh.

Not many bright spots for Plattsburgh tonight. John Perez led the team with 12 points (5x8 fg, 2x7 ft) and 10 of those came in the first half. He also had 7 rebounds. Shavar Fields had 10 points (3x8 fg, 4x6 ft) as did Junghoon Roh (3x9 fg, 2x6 3's, 2x4 ft). Reggie Williams led the team in rebounding with 8 boards along with 8 points. Josh Bruno was perfect tonight going 3x3 from the field and 2x2 from long distance for 8 points. Shamoy McIntosh had 7 points, 5 steals, 2 assists and 2 rebounds in 18 minutes. Cards shot 24x61 fg (39.3%),onlu 5x18 3's (26.3%) and a woeful 15x34 (44.1%) from the stripe.

Buffalo State improves to 13-4 overall and 6-3 in the conference with their weekend sweep of the North Country.They remain tied with Geneseo for 3rd place and might be locked in a three way battle for 2nd place if Cortland loses to Oswego later tonight. They now have 6 days off aamd will return to action when they host New Paltz and then Oneonta next weekend. The down time couldn't have come at a better time for the Bengals as they can now hope for the return of star forward Justin Mitchell for the next set of games.

Plattsburgh falls to 6-9 overall and 4-5 in the YAC. It was a lost weekend for the Cards who needed a split at worst to stay in the race for an upper division spot and a chance to host a playoff game. They're not out of it yet but with a trip to #1 Middlebury up next on Tuesday and then Oswego and Cortland coming to town next weekend, it's hard to see any wins there. Coach Curle won't be happy at practice this week as he was handed, quite possibly, his worst defeat since taking over the Cardinal program eight years ago. The two North Country schools managed an ofer weekend going 0-4. The last time that happened was 1106 days ago (Jan. 9th and 10th, 2009) :-[     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 21, 2012, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2012, 04:42:45 PM
Fredonia leads Potsdam 24-11 at the break.

11 points in 20 minutes - I think thats a "new low".

Bears mounted a mighty comeback and actually led 34-30 in 2nd half.  Devils now lead 41-36 with under three to play, this is in the era of the three point shot and the shot clock.  Hard to believe.  I have seen several zebra calls that belong in the hall of shame, especially since I am viewing from the west coast.

I hope the weather out there is treating you better than the boys from the western part of the state are treating our hoop teams. I mentioned the poor officiating I've witnessed in a few games this year in a post over on the Liberty league board earlier today. I actually left out 4 or 5 of the worst ones and used examples from teams that are in other leagues or that I don't have any particular allegiance to. Looking forward to Saturday February 11th in Potsdam. Have a safe trip home. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 08:56:36 PM

Oswego 31, Cortland 29 at intermission
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 09:09:40 PM

Back and forth in Oswego. Early second half. H. Ward 16 pts. but 4pf for Lakers ......on the bench
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 09:18:47 PM

J. Smith and J. Winter treys put Cortland up 53-51 .......8:30 left ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 09:29:03 PM

J. Winter hoop provides 57-53 lead with just over 5' left. Winter 18 pts ......Ward returns for OSt with 4pf ...... R. Sheridan three for Lakers gets 'em within one ........Dragon J. Smith with 21 pts collects trey for 60-56 lead .............Oswego skipper just 'T'd up ..........Winter hits two FTs for six point lead ......54-58 just under 4' left .. Winter hits trey .....nine point lead  ....TO Lakers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 09:34:56 PM

Cortland 67-60 with 2:22 left ........C. Burridge 8 pts, scoreless in second half ...................Oswego with steal after Cortland TO .....S. McMichael hits trey with just over 2' left ......1:50 ..........Corts miss layup .........Burridge fouled. Hits pair 67-65 just over a minute left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 09:37:18 PM

Burridge layup ties it at 67 .......Cortland has shot clock expire in final seconds. Oswego ball 2.3 seconds left .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 09:40:59 PM

Cortland stunned ...........H. Ward hoop wins it!!!!!!!!  ...Lakers 11-0 finish ........Dragons have to be crushed, simply don't get it done down the stretch. Ward buries jumper .......finishes with 18 points ..............Oswego knows how to win, plain and simple. Dragons red-faced, still trying to find the formula in this kind of setteing .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 09:50:02 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 21, 2012, 09:40:59 PM

Cortland stunned ...........H. Ward hoop wins it!!!!!!!!  ...Lakers 11-0 finish ........Dragons have to be crushed, simply don't get it done down the stretch. Ward buries jumper .......finishes with 18 points ..............Oswego knows how to win, plain and simple. Dragons red-faced, still trying to find the formula in this kind of setteing .......

You said it jdex,Oswego finds a way to win. Doesn't hurt when you have two seniors like Burridge and Ward though. ;D My condolences, but at least your Red Dragons were in it to the end, unlike some other red creatures that got monkey stomped. :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2012, 11:02:57 PM
Geneseo 80 New Paltz 69

Tight first half as teams exchanged baskets and lead throughout. Eight lead changes and two ties befor Geneseo took over at 31-30 with 3:22 to go. They stayed in front and went into the locker room up by 5 at 38-33. Hawks Shalik jenkins opened the 2nd half with a 3 ball to cut the lead to two but Blue Knights opened up with a 10-0 run to make it a 12 point lead at 48-36 with only 2:35 gone in the period. New Paltz could never get any closer than 8 points and that was only on 1 occasion at 60-52 with 8:19 to play. Knights immediately built it back to 13 and the Hawks never got it back to single digits.

Geneseo was led by Jordan Jones with 22 points and 6 rebounds. Mike Hoy had 14 points and Matt Curry scored 13. Knights were 29x54 fg (53.7%), 7x14 3's (50%), 15x24 ft (62.5%). They had 32 rebounds to 25 for the Hawks. They only had 12 turnovers, while New Paltz committed 15.

New Paltz was led by Matt Devine with 20 points and 12 rebounds. Harris Wichard added 19 points. Hawks shot 25x49 from the field (51%), 7x21 3's (33.3%) and 12x19 ft (63.2%).

Geneseo finally gets to the .500 mark with an 8-8 record and are solidly in the mix with a 6-3 record. A nice turnaround for a team that was 1-6 then 2-7 just two weeks ago to now be on an even keel. With Oswego's defeat of Cortland tonight there is now a 3 way tie for 2nd place. If the season ended today the Blue Knights would have that 2nd place spot by virtue of victories over both Cortland and Buffalo State. Even though Cortland has also beaten Geneseo, the Red Dragons have no wins against either Oswego or Buff State, thereby giving the placement to Geneseo by virtue of the 2nd tiebreaker used. It's still too early to worry about that for the Blue Knights. Ther most immediate problem will be the Lakers, who invade Alumni Fieldhouse on Tuesday. A loss then, will drop them from 2nd to 4th in a hurry. And then they travel to Brockport for a rematch of the barnburner that took place last week.

New Paltz is in a free fall having lost 4 in a row to 4 of the top 5 teams in the standings. Up next is the other top team and probably the most dangerous after Oswego, the Buffalo State Bengals. The Hawks will travel next weekend to Buffalo and then to Fredonia. The bad news only gets worse because Buff State will probably get Justin Mitchell back for that game. They say bad news comes in threes and sure enough the final dose to the Hawks is six straight road games. Can you say 8th place? And that's if the Bears don't heat up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 21, 2012, 11:15:51 PM

Oswego takes 22nd straight 'Yac victory in dramatic fashion. With 2.3 seconds left H. Ward takes C. Burridge inbounds pass and connects from 18 feet for 69-67 win. Corts scoreless over final three plus minutes after taking 67-58 lead. R. Sheridan, S. Michele, C. Burridge land clutch comeback markers. Ward sees limited second half play with 4pf. Still nets 18 pts(8x13fg) in 25'. Michele 12 pts(4x6 3s), Burridge 12 pts(4x8fg), 9 rebs in 39'; Sheridan 10 pts. Lakers 28x51fg, 7x17 3s, 6x8ft, 29 rebs, 14 trnvrs. RDragons J. Smith sheds shooting slump with 21 pts(7x11fg, 5x7 3s). J. Winter 20 pts(9x9ft), 5 assts; B. Manning 9 pts, 6 rebs, 4pf. CSt 11x19 3s but just 21x54fg. Hits 14x15ft and colleccts 28 rebs, 11 trnvrs. Corts by seven late in the first half, down by pair at the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2012, 12:01:46 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2012, 11:02:57 PM
Up next is the other top team and probably the most dangerous after Oswego, the Buffalo State Bengals. The Hawks will travel next weekend to Buffalo and then to Fredonia. The bad news only gets worse because Buff State will probably get Justin Mitchell back for that game.

   I hope u r right magicman. Our past 2 weekends were the complete opposite of each other. I sure hope that my BENGALS have worked out the kinks. Getting Justin back next week (hopefully) should lift the spirits in Western n y.. Dont want to make too much of this weekends victories. Oneonta just defeated a Brockport team that ate our lunch last week and New Paltz has 3 of the Yac's top 11 scorers.1 must respect that type of firepower!

  BENGALS are 6-3 (13-3 overall) at the midpoint of Yac. Last year they were 5-4 (10-5 overall) at midpoint and then went 8-1 for the 2nd half. Gonna have to to repeat our second half performance (at the min.) to at least have a shot at a dance ticket! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2012, 01:15:05 AM
Oneonta 59 Brockport 57

This one is the shocker of the day, maybe even the year in the YAC. How can Brockport look so good in beating Buffalo State and blowing out New Paltz? Then look so bad and more importantly blow a 7 point lead in the last four minutes to a team that could only manage 1 field goal last night in the final 10 minutes. I'm  :o

Brockport opened the scoring and then had a 4-2 lead before Oneonta took over for the rest of the half. They opend up a double digit lead as the Golden Eagles missed shot after shot in between turnovers. Ahead 14-4 with 13:40 to play the Red Dragons stretched it to 25-12 with 6:43 remaining. Two minutes later it was a 15 point lead and they coasted into the half, doubling up the Eagles 36-18. Me and four of my friends, can score more than 18 points in a half. And none of us are taller than 6'1". The lead would reach 19 points early in the 2nd half before Port slowly began to chip away. They got it to single digits with 13:39 left and cut it to 5 on a 3 ball by Derek Klein with 8:34 to go. They finally made it all the way back when Stephen Sisson was fouled on a three point attempt. He went to the line and hit 2 of 3 to tie the score at 43 apiece with 7 minutes to play. On the ensuing Oneonta possession, Donnell Jackson steals the ball, makes a layup and the Eagles have their first lead since the game was 2 minutes old. Oneonta starts missing free throws, missing shots commiting turnovers and just likethat it's 51-44 in favor of the Eagles. Still up by 5 with 2:46 to go Port misses twice from the field and gets 1 of 2 from the line. Red dragons meanwhile get a bucket by Frankie kelly and a triplr from Dan lee to pull back into a tie at 53. Port gets a free throw Kelly hits a jumper, Port misfires, and Kelly hits another jumper. Now up 57-54 with 2o seconds left the Red Dragons send Port to the line. Jon Ivy hits 1 of 2, Port has to foul and Kelly hits them both to make it a 2 possession game and ice it for the Red Dragons. Way to finish Frankie Kelly. Dan Lee with 17 points and kelly with 16 points to lead Oneonta. Cameron Boyden with 5 points and 10 boards. Oneonta hit the boards for 40 reebounds while Port had 28.

Donnell Jackson led Brockport with 19 points while Jon Ivy added 16. Telling statistic, to me anyways, 1000 point scorer Gerald Williams only took 4 shots all night making 1.  First team A C Kyheem Green only took 8 shots making 2 and never got to the line. Was the defense from the last place team in the conference and losers of 14 straight games that good or the offense of Port that bad.

Oneonta breaks an almost season long losing streak. With the next 4 games on the road starting with Fredonia and Buff St next weekend I don't see any signs of a winning streak. 

Brockport drops to 6-9 overall and 4-4 in the YAC. Next up is a visit from the other Red Dragons as Cortland invades Tuttle North. Will Brockport get beat by both teams of Dragons in a week's time? Tune in next week. Same Bat time, same Bat channel.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
   Just a thought while celebrating the Giants victory........ I wonder if Jake Simmons 53 point weekend (20 of 37 from the field - 54%, including 11 of 21 from beyond the arc - 52%) vs. Potsdam & Plattsburgh, might qualify him for A - SUNYAC Player of the week, B- ECAC Player of the Week and/or C D3Hoops team of the week?. Might I add that he scored 53 pts. in 48 mins of play (20 mins vs. Potsdam and 28 mins vs. Plattsburgh) and his 9  - 3 pointers vs. Plattsburgh broke a school record that has stood  since 2005!!!

  Just a thought!! ;)

Go GIANTS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2012, 01:58:07 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
   Just a thought while celebrating the Giants victory........ I wonder if Jake Simmons 53 point weekend (20 of 37 from the field - 54%, including 11 of 21 from beyond the arc - 52%) vs. Potsdam & Plattsburgh, might qualify him for A - SUNYAC Player of the week, B- ECAC Player of the Week and/or C D3Hoops team of the week?. Might I add that he scored 53 pts. in 48 mins of play (20 mins vs. Potsdam and 28 mins vs. Plattsburgh) and his 9  - 3 pointers vs. Plattsburgh broke a school record that has stood  since 2005!!!

  Just a thought!! ;)

Go GIANTS!!

I'd vote for him to get all three of those honors. 8-) Plattsburgh's Coach Curle was quoted in today's Plattsburgh Press Republican  with this statement: "Jake Simmons had 37 points in 28 minutes. If he would have played more he would have had 50. He was hitting them with people on him...he's just a good player and we didn't have an answer".

The fact that Jake had such a good weekend without Justin Mitchell in the lineup is even more reason to award him Player of the Week accolades. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2012, 09:35:15 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2012, 01:58:07 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
   Just a thought while celebrating the Giants victory........ I wonder if Jake Simmons 53 point weekend (20 of 37 from the field - 54%, including 11 of 21 from beyond the arc - 52%) vs. Potsdam & Plattsburgh, might qualify him for A - SUNYAC Player of the week, B- ECAC Player of the Week and/or C D3Hoops team of the week?. Might I add that he scored 53 pts. in 48 mins of play (20 mins vs. Potsdam and 28 mins vs. Plattsburgh) and his 9  - 3 pointers vs. Plattsburgh broke a school record that has stood  since 2005!!!

  Just a thought!! ;)

Go GIANTS!!

I'd vote for him to get all three of those honors. 8-) Plattsburgh's Coach Curle was quoted in today's Plattsburgh Press Republican  with this statement: "Jake Simmons had 37 points in 28 minutes. If he would have played more he would have had 50. He was hitting them with people on him...he's just a good player and we didn't have an answer".

The fact that Jake had such a good weekend without Justin Mitchell in the lineup is even more reason to award him Player of the Week accolades. 

I could not have said it better myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 23, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
Hope he gets nominated.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 23, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
Hope he gets nominated.

How does 1 get nominated????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 23, 2012, 11:38:34 AM
He has been. It comes from the athletic department.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2012, 11:54:49 AM
Thanks Pat!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
   Just a thought while celebrating the Giants victory........ I wonder if Jake Simmons 53 point weekend (20 of 37 from the field - 54%, including 11 of 21 from beyond the arc - 52%) vs. Potsdam & Plattsburgh, might qualify him for A - SUNYAC Player of the week, B- ECAC Player of the Week and/or C D3Hoops team of the week?. Might I add that he scored 53 pts. in 48 mins of play (20 mins vs. Potsdam and 28 mins vs. Plattsburgh) and his 9  - 3 pointers vs. Plattsburgh broke a school record that has stood  since 2005!!!

  Just a thought!! ;)

Go GIANTS!!

1 down ....Simmons SUNYAC Player of the Week. ;) (see below)
http://www.sunyac.com/news/2012/1/23/MBB_0123123334.aspx

2 to go?! ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2012, 06:55:25 PM
New Top 25 Poll out. Oswego drops a few more points from 48 down to 40 and goes from 27th to 28th. No mention of Buffalo State at all. NYU goes from #23 to #17 as their point total goes from 87 to 192. No other East Region team gets a point.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2012, 11:34:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2012, 06:55:25 PM
New Top 25 Poll out. Oswego drops a few more points from 48 down to 40 and goes from 27th to 28th. No mention of Buffalo State at all. NYU goes from #23 to #17 as their point total goes from 87 to 192. No other East Region team gets a point.

No Buff State????      *#$%^&*(+)*&^%$#@. (Had to get that off my chest!) >:(

Well I can at least get a little enjoyment reading "10 questions for Norman Simmons"

http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/news/2012/1/23/MBB_0123125620.aspx

It reminds me why I respect the kid so much!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2012, 12:20:41 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
   Just a thought while celebrating the Giants victory........ I wonder if Jake Simmons 53 point weekend (20 of 37 from the field - 54%, including 11 of 21 from beyond the arc - 52%) vs. Potsdam & Plattsburgh, might qualify him for A - SUNYAC Player of the week, B- ECAC Player of the Week and/or C D3Hoops team of the week?. Might I add that he scored 53 pts. in 48 mins of play (20 mins vs. Potsdam and 28 mins vs. Plattsburgh) and his 9  - 3 pointers vs. Plattsburgh broke a school record that has stood  since 2005!!!

  Just a thought!! ;)

Go GIANTS!!

1 down ....Simmons SUNYAC Player of the Week. ;) (see below)
http://www.sunyac.com/news/2012/1/23/MBB_0123123334.aspx

2 to go?! ???

2 down ......http://d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2011-12/week9

1 to go?! ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2012, 02:31:05 PM
Three games on tap for tonight.  I'm off to Middlebury to see the game so this is going to be real quick

Plattsburgh at Middlebury   7:30

Cards up against the top team in all of D3. Hope it's better then the Buffalo State game turned out. Point spread has Plattsburgh as a 23 point underdog. I hope it's closer.   Middlebury 74 Plattsburgh 61

Oswego State @ Geneseo 8 PM

Line has the Lakers favored by 6 points. Sounds about right.  Oswego 71 Geneseo 65

Cortland State @ Brockport State   8 PM

Oddsmakers have the Golden Eagles as a 1 point favorite. Brockport can't afford to lose this one, especiallt at home, especially after losing to the other Red Dragons. I think birds beat dragons this time. Brockport 78-74 over Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2012, 06:42:47 PM
I'm feeling an upset coming in 1 of those contests!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2012, 08:36:36 PM
15:41 left in the 2nd half. Plattsburgh down by 5 (36-31) vs #1 Middlebury. Upset in the making?! ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2012, 08:46:51 PM
Cortland up by 1 at the half vs. Brockport.

Cardinals down 10 (48-38) to Middlebury with 10:12 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 24, 2012, 08:52:53 PM

Oswego 31, Geneseo 23  ...half

Cortland 33, Brockport 32 ....half on J. Smith hoop at buzzer

Plattsburgh down 61-45 with about 6:30  left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 24, 2012, 09:26:00 PM

Oswego 48, Geneseo 39 with 8' left

Cortlnd by 5 with 6' to play

Plattsburgh falls 73-54 to Middlebury whose Ephs pull away. Five point game at 14:39. Burgh down 9 at 7:33 before hosts land trey. S. Fields 16 pts(5x14) for Cards, J. Perez 12 pts(6x12fg) and 7 rebs. Middlebury with 47-27 reb advantage. R. Sherry 20 pts(10x14fg), 13 rebs;N. Thompson 14 pts, 8 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 24, 2012, 09:39:08 PM
Thanks for the update jdex.  Be interested to get magic's take on Middlebury.  My gut feeling tells me that there are better teams out there in d-3 but none with undefeated records.  Is Middlebury the Ephs?  Always thought that was Williams?  Been trying to follow that league a little more now that Hamilton joined them.   Just a damn tough league.  5 or 6 really good teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2012, 09:49:54 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 24, 2012, 09:39:08 PM
Thanks for the update jdex.  Be interested to get magic's take on Middlebury.  My gut feeling tells me that there are better teams out there in d-3 but none with undefeated records.  Is Middlebury the Ephs?  Always thought that was Williams?

Middlebury Panthers.

Oswego beats Geneseo 63-47 and Cortland holds off Brockport 73-66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 24, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Cortland holds off Brockport 73-66 paced by J. Winter's 26 pts(7x14fg, 3x8 3s, 9x14ft). H. Hefele 14 pts(4x9fg, 4x6 3s); B. Manning 10 pts. G. Williams 19 pts (7x11fg, 4x6 3s) with big first half. Fouled out late. Played just17'. K. Green 13 pts, 15 rebs; J. Major 11 pts(3x4 3s). Corts and Bport locked up most of second half until RDragons extend to five point lead, then six. Eagles stay within sight. Winter the difference in 39' performance.

Oswego topples Geneseo 63-49. C. Burridge 19 pts(9x12fg); S. Michele 10 pts; H. Ward 13 rebs, 4 pts(1x5fg). Gens C. Fedge 15 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 25, 2012, 11:28:14 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2012, 12:20:41 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
   Just a thought while celebrating the Giants victory........ I wonder if Jake Simmons 53 point weekend (20 of 37 from the field - 54%, including 11 of 21 from beyond the arc - 52%) vs. Potsdam & Plattsburgh, might qualify him for A - SUNYAC Player of the week, B- ECAC Player of the Week and/or C D3Hoops team of the week?. Might I add that he scored 53 pts. in 48 mins of play (20 mins vs. Potsdam and 28 mins vs. Plattsburgh) and his 9  - 3 pointers vs. Plattsburgh broke a school record that has stood  since 2005!!!

  Just a thought!! ;)

Go GIANTS!!

1 down ....Simmons SUNYAC Player of the Week. ;) (see below)
http://www.sunyac.com/news/2012/1/23/MBB_0123123334.aspx

2 to go?! ???

2 down ......http://d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2011-12/week9

1 to go?! ???

Ahhh the trifecta..

http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/winter/mbkb/potw/DivisionI/2011-2012/mbball_potw_01_24_12

Couldn't happen to a nicer kid. Nor 1 who has been through as much crap in thier life as Jake Simmons has been through! It's a small miracle that the kid is still here, let alone enrolled in college! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 26, 2012, 12:40:34 AM
Truly appreciate the links Bengals.  Stories like that really are inspiriing in so many ways. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2012, 01:57:07 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 26, 2012, 12:40:34 AM
Truly appreciate the links Bengals.  Stories like that really are inspiriing in so many ways. :)

Thanks With age. 1 thing that was omitted. Normans father is STILL in prison.
Hopefully you read the Jake Simmons (no relations) story last spring! An impressive come from behind story that was published in the Buffalo News.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2012, 09:11:15 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 24, 2012, 09:39:08 PM
Thanks for the update jdex.  Be interested to get magic's take on Middlebury.  My gut feeling tells me that there are better teams out there in d-3 but none with undefeated records.  Is Middlebury the Ephs?  Always thought that was Williams?  Been trying to follow that league a little more now that Hamilton joined them.   Just a damn tough league.  5 or 6 really good teams.

with age,

Tried doing this last night and lost my entire post when my computer screwed up so I'll try again.

Middlebury is one terrific team. I've watched 21 of the Top 35 teams play this year and I haven't seen anybody that's better. These guys are big. The guys that come off the bench are big. Their bigs can move well, shoot well, have great hands, soft hands, and of course with their size get an awful lot points in the paint. They are led by their 6'8" All American forward, Ryan Sharry. He scored 20 points Tuesday night and they all came on layups or were tipped in. Several of his tip ins were done with just a flick of his fingers. One was off the glass, and the other was straight up into the net. He's basically averaging a double double (21'8 ppg, 9.8 rpg) and shoots 68.6% from the field, and 42.1% from downtown. So you can't leave him alone when he's out near the arc or he'll drain one on you. I've watched him play for 4 years now and he's gotten better and better. When he was a sophomore I commented on the NESCAC board that this kid had All American written all over him. Last year he was a 4th team AA (should have been a 2nd team AA), this year he'll be a 1st teamer. Their other starting big man is 6'6" forward Peter Lynch who averages 10 ppg and 5.6 rpg. If these guys need a breather they can bring in 2 sophomores that are 6'8" and 6'6" to replace them (5.6, and 2.1 ppg). They start 3 guards, (6'0", 6'2", 6'3") that are all shooters, can all run the point if needed, together shoot 47% from the field and almost 42% from the 3 point line. If they need a break, the top guards off the bench are both 6'5" freshman (averaging 6.7 and 5.1 ppg), big guards. They have freshman and sophomores that would start on most New York State teams.  The team plays an, in your face, man to man defense that is stifling. They average margin of victory is over 19 ppg and they only give up, on average, 60 ppg. Their offense moves the ball quickly with lots of passing as the bigs rotate, set screens, rotate some more and bang it's a wide open layup or dunk. The guards will drive to the basket but are usually looking to dish to the big men first. They have a real solid 8 man rotation with several other young players that can come into the lineup and make contributions if needed. The top 8 all average double digit minutes with 4 others getting 7-11 minutes of playing time, but haven't played in every game. The scary thing is this team has 17 players on the roster and next year will return 12 of their top 13 scorers. The one they lose, Sharry, is a huge loss of course but they have 4 sophomores, 6'8", 6'6", 6'4", 6'4" and 5 freshman, 6'9", 6'7", 6'6", 6'5", and 6'5" just waiting in the wings. Did I mention that these guys are BIG. ??? In watching these young guys, who aren't getting much PT because of who's in front of them, during warm ups, they all appear to have lots of potential. Coach Jeff Brown has a well stocked cupboard and these guys will be contending for the NESCAC title cetainly for the next few years. With 4 starters coming back next year and plenty of depth as well, they are well suited to make another tournament run.

As far as this year goes I watched a team that made it to the Final Four last year and lost in the semi's to St. Thomas by a 59-57 score. They had a chance to win that game when they got possession of the ball with 26 seconds to go and their final attempt at a 3 pointer was no good. It really was the championship game for all intensive purposes as St. Thomas blew out Wooster the next day by 24 points to win it.

Will they go undefeated during the regular season? They could, but there's a couple of NESCAC games coming up against Williams and at Amherst, that might pose problems. A game at Keene State next Tuesday night won't be a laugher either. Then there's always the league tournament where anything can happen. One thing is for sure though, they will be dancing come March. Will they win it all this year? Funny things can happen in a single elimination tournament, a poor night shooting the rock, the other team lights it up, a bad call at a crucial point in the game, and many other variables, so the best team may not get it done. But if I was a betting man (and I am), I would put down a chunk of change (if I could) that the Panthers (you were right, with age, Williams is the Ephs) will walk off the Salem Civic Center holding high The Walnut and Bronze. (And  The BeltTM with it. ;D)

PS: I hope I'm wrong and the Lakers or the Bengals have that honor, 8-) but the oddsmakers will certainly favor the Panthers.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 27, 2012, 03:57:59 AM
Found the post over here! Have you seen UW Whitewater or any of the midwest teams? From the sound of your post - there is nobody from the east that is better right now! Thanks, as always for the insights.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2012, 08:35:54 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 27, 2012, 03:57:59 AM
Found the post over here! Have you seen UW Whitewater or any of the midwest teams? From the sound of your post - there is nobody from the east that is better right now! Thanks, as always for the insights.

I've seen Whitewater play and also the team that's given them both losses, Stevens Point. Both good teams but I think Middlebury is bigger, better defensively, and deeper, than both the Wisconsin schools.

Of the current Top 16 schools the only ones I haven't seen are Hope, Cabrini and Birmingham Southern. Hope is a solid team with an experienced group of senior and junior starters who went dancing last year. They almost made the sweet 16, but lost to Augustana in overtime, at Augustana when they couldn't make their foul shots down the stretch in regulation. I would rate them as a strong choice to make the Final Four. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2012, 11:04:27 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2012, 09:11:15 PM
PS: I hope I'm wrong and the Lakers or the Bengals have that honor     

I hope you are wrong too!!!!!!

Go BENGALS

p.s I'm a quick learner! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2012, 07:22:45 PM
Four games set for tonight all at 8:00 PM

New Paltz State at Buffalo State

This one should be a run and gun affair just like the game back in early December. Bengals may be getting top big man Justin Mitchell back. They certainly didn't need him last week as Jake Simmons was knocking them down from 22 feet all weekend long, but with Mitchell in the lineup, that inside, outside combo, will be tough to cover. New Paltz has tumbled from 3rd place into 8th place with 4 straight conference losses. Hawks need a win in the worst way, yet come into this game as 16 point underdogs. They kept it close in New Paltz, don't think they can that in Buffalo. Bengals 88 Hawks 72.

Cortland State at Potsdam State

Cortland looking to hold onto 2nd place. Bears looking to hold on. Red Dragons gave one away last week when they failed to put Oswego away. With a 7 point lead and 3 minutes to go Cortland never scored another point. Three turnovers and 2 misfires in their final 5 possessions, the last coming with just 4 ticks on the clock, spelled doom for the Dragons. It was just enough time for Hayden Ward to bury a jumper at the buzzer and steal the game, which probably locked up the top seed in the SUNYAC tournament for the Lakers. Last year when Cortland came north, they were upset by the Bears on Friday and then shot lights out against Plattsburgh the next day, to upset the Cardinals. I don't think Potsdam will pull off that surprise again. Oddsmakers have made Cortland a 12 point favorite and that sounds about right. Bears have lost 7 in a row and the only thing keeping their playoff hopes alive is the losing streak that New Paltz is riding. Potsdam will meet the Hawks next Tuesday and the winner of that game will have a leg up for the final slot in the tournament. Tonights game though, will be a replay of their earlier meeting and Cortland will walk out of Jerry Welsh's Gym with a 70-58 win.

Oneonta State at Fredonia State

These Red Dragons are feeling it after their big upset of Brockport in their last outing. Leading for most of the game, they found themelves in familiar territory as the Golden Eagles came from 18 points down to grab a 7 point lead with just under 4 minutes to play. Oneonta once again hit a dry spell that found them scoring 3 measley free throws in an 8 minute stretch. But wonder of all wonders, it was the Red Dragons who went on a game ending run, outscoring Brockport 15-6 and nipping the Eagles 59-57. Now comes the big question, can they do it again and on the road. No they can't. Posted line has the Blue Devils favored by 10 points. They will be lookng to climb into the upper division and host a playoff game, something that they haven't done in quite a while. A sweep this weekend and a loss by Geneseo on Saturday to Brockport, will put the Blue Devils in that coveted 4th position. Too much on the line to have a letdown tonight. Fredonia 73 Oneonta 64.

Oswego State at Plattsburgh State

The Lakers come into Memorial Hall riding a 24 game regular season conference winning streak. This is he 2nd longest active streak in Division III. They are also looking to match the record of the 2007-08 Cardinals who ran the table and finished with an 18-0 SUNYAC slate. After stealing one against Cortland on that last second buzzer beater by Hayden Ward, to keep the streak alive, (which was nominated for the ECAC play of the week but didn't win it. Should have because it was the game winner and most of the other nominees weren't) the Lakers made sure a repeat of that play wasn't necessary as they dominated Geneseo and led from start to finish in posting a 14 point win. Plattsburgh is coming off a lost weekend and a 73-54 defeat at the hands of the top ranked team in all of D3, the Middlebury Panthers. Two weeks ago they were tied for third place, now they find themselves in a three way tied for 5th. A loss tonight will drop them into 7th. They gave the Lakers all they could handle at Oswego back in December, actually leading in that contest, 59-57, with under 5 minutes to play. But Ward and Burridge scored 8 straight points and the game was history. Cards need to duplicate that intensity tonight and even if they do there's no guarantee they'll come away with a W. The Pointspread favors the Lakers by 9 points and I'd love to pick my Cards to pull off the upset but I've put my heart on my sleeve too many times this year and been burned. Besides I don't even know, if they know, that they're playing to prevent the Lakers from duplicating that clean sweep the Cards had back in 07-08. Maybe I'll get there early to remind them. I'm hoping for a good game because there's only one team on the floor that can turn this into a blowout.  Oswego 75 Plattsburgh 69             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 08:33:22 PM

Cortland 29, Potsdam 28 at the half. Z. Adams hits at the horn for Bears. B. Manning 15 pts for CSt

Plattsburgh 14, Oswego 12 midway into first half

Buffalo St. 38, New Paltz 27 late in the half. NP opens fast
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 08:53:02 PM

At the half ...

Fredonia 22, Oneonta 20

Buffalo St. 45, New Paltz 34
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 08:55:29 PM

Cortland 41, Potsdam 35 early 2nd half ........B. Manning of Corts with 24 pts(10x13fg, 4x6 3s)!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 09:04:49 PM

Plattsburgh 33, Oswego 30 at the half ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 09:25:17 PM

Buffalo State rolls over New Paltz 95-67. Bengals 43x78fg led by R. Epps 15 pts, J. Simmons 15 pts, A. Nagaya 12 pts, A. Majak 12 pts, N. Simmons 10 pts. NP M.Devine 24 pts(8x14fg), H. Wichard 20 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 09:34:03 PM

Cortland trips Potsdam 58-50 as B. Manning has career night 28 pts(11x15fg, 4x7 3s). Rest of RDragons 10x39fg, 2x19 3s!!! K. McMahon 9 pts(4x7fg), 8 rebs; J. Smith 4 assts, 5 pts. J. Winter 7 pts(1x10fg, 0x6 3s). Bears C. Pierce 16 pts(7x14fg), 17 rebs, 3 assts; Z. Adams 10 pts, 6 rebs. Corts by 9 at 5:24, watch Pdam pull within five but withstand hosts. Bears outboard CSters 41-33 but shoot just 21x58fg, 3x19 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 09:40:16 PM

Fredonia beats Oneonta 57-41
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 27, 2012, 10:05:48 PM

Oswego over Plattsburgh 69-64. Seizes lead for good on C. Gilkes hoop at 11:30 for 45-44 edge. Margin grows to six but Burgh within 52-50 on J. Moody hoop. C. Burridge FTs begin Oswego clinching move. Gap at 61-52 at 2:07. Cards close to four on S. Fields layup at 0:59. Lakers charity throws end it. R. Sheridan comes up big for OSt with 21 pts(5x7fg, 4x5 3s). S. Michele 16 pts(4x5 3s); C. Burridge 13 pts, 6 rebs. Pburgh's E. Hodgson 14 pts(4x6 3s), R. Junghoon 10 pts. J. Perez 8 pts, Fields 9 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 01:16:58 AM
Cardinals gave the Lakers all they could handle tonight but came up just a little short. Neither team had much of an advantage through the first part of the inital period. Tied at 17 with 9:37 to play Plattsburgh, with fresh blood coming in from the bench, outscored Oswego 10-2 and opened up a 27-19 lead with 6:22 remaining. It would be their largest lead of the game and would carry them into the break with a halftime edge of 33-30.  What was interesting about that turn of events was the personnel the Cards had on the floor at the time. Three freshman, a sophomore and a senior, started the run and the senior was replaced by another freshman a minute later. The future of the program was on display and for a good 6 to 7 minutes held the mighty Lakers at bay. All good things must end though and Oswego would eventually reclaim the lead for good. Still up 40-35 with 15:49 left, the Lakers would go on a 15 to 4 run of their own and open up a 6 point lead at 50-44 with 9:20 remaining. Cardinals twice got it to 2 points but could never get the equalizer and repeated trips to the line, where the Lakers couldn't miss, ultimately spelled disaster for Plattsburgh. The Lakers hit 14 consecutive foul shots before they finally missed one. They ended up shooting 18x20 from the line in the 2nd half. Plattsburgh was 0x4. That's one of the bigger discrepancies I've witnessed this year. I believe Oswego was in the double bonus with 11 minutes remaining. The Lakers also had Ryan Sheridan and Sean Michele who couldn't miss from downtown. Both players were 4x5 from behind the arc and Conor Monaghan added 3 more. Even big man Chad Burridge got into the act, when left alone as he buried his only attempt from the arc. As a team Oswego shot 45.2 % from the field (19x42) but an outstanding 52.2% from downtown (12x23). From the line they were 19x22 (86.4%)

Freshman Ezra Hodgson had his best night in a Cardinal uniform scoring 14 points as he hit 4x6 from three point range. Cards also had a good night shooting the rock as they were 27X52 from the field (51.9%). They hit 50% of their 3's going 8x16 but only made 6 trips to the line going 2x6. Probably 3 of the worst officials to grace Memorial Hall this year. They made a lot of bad calls on both sides of the ball. Very inconsistent in their calls. Think I saw more offensive fouls called tonight than I have in any two games I've watched all year. Out of position making calls, when the ref right on top of the play didn't blow his whistle. Another bright spot for the Cards was their ability to out rebound the Lakers tonight 26-18, especially on the offensve end where they had a 9-2 edge. Not a lot of rebounds tonight as both teams shot so well. Both teams only had 10 turnovers and while the Cards had 7 steals to 6 for the Lakers, Oswego had 4 blocked shots to only 1 for Plattsburgh.

I went 4-0 on my selections tonight and was fairly close with my final scores in the Plattsburgh-Oswego game (prediction 75-69 Lakers, actual 69-64 Lakers) and the Buffalo State-New Paltz game (prediction 88-72 Bengals, actual 95-67 Bengals). It looks like the Bengals used a 15-2 run in the latter stages of the 1st half and another 15-2 to open the 2nd half to put the game away early. Bengals star Justin Mitchell returned to action tonight when he came off the bench to play 9 minutes in the 1st period. With a huge lead so early in the 2nd half, the coaching staff decided to give him the rest of the night off since he wasn't needed. They also had Jake Simmons take a seat early as he only played less than half the game. Buffalo's bench accounted for 113 of the 200 minutes played.

The Cortland-Potsdam game and Fredonia-Oneonta game were defensive battles. The points scored were a ways off from my predictions but my MOV were fairly close as I had both winners. Potsdam hung with the Red Dragons for most of the game and after trailing by nine point at the 14:10 mark they closed to within 3. Dragons went back up by 9 and the Bears could never get closer than a 2 possession game. Not a bad effort but not the results Potsdam needed.

Oneonta at Fredonia was about what I expected. Close for a while but Fredonia's experience would win out in the end. That and the typical scoring drought that has plagued these Red Dragons all year long, although it wasn't quite as bad tonight. 

All ten teams in action tomorrow, whoops it's already tomorrow. I should go and hit the sack. ;D

jdex did a good job manning the fort tonight. He'll have the same duty tomorrow afternoon as I get to watch his Cortland team play my Cardinals. I'm telling you right now jdex, I'm taking the Cards. It's payback time for last year. (and this year!!!) ;D                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2012, 02:31:45 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2012, 01:16:58 AM
jdex did a good job manning the fort tonight. He'll have the same duty tomorrow afternoon as I get to watch his Cortland team play my Cardinals. I'm telling you right now jdex, I'm taking the Cards. It's payback time for last year. (and this year!!!) ;D               

I'll Be there in spirit.  I ruptured a cyst in my left knee on Wednesday morning, so have been immobile and horizontal for the most part since that time either in medical facilities or at home.  Have avoided surgery, but have a semi-useless left leg at this point in time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 05:03:07 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 28, 2012, 02:31:45 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2012, 01:16:58 AM
jdex did a good job manning the fort tonight. He'll have the same duty tomorrow afternoon as I get to watch his Cortland team play my Cardinals. I'm telling you right now jdex, I'm taking the Cards. It's payback time for last year. (and this year!!!) ;D               

I'll Be there in spirit.  I ruptured a cyst in my left knee on Wednesday morning, so have been immobile and horizontal for the most part since that time either in medical facilities or at home.  Have avoided surgery, but have a semi-useless left leg at this point in time.

Well bear, that's a fine how do you do! And I spent all this time tonight building you up for the Burridge family so they could meet and greet you tomorrow afternoon. (I mean this afternoon since it's 5:03 Saturday morning). Told them to go to the scorer's table and ask for "the bear". Said you might even be at the scorer's table, but if you weren't someone there would direct them to you. These nice folks come all the way up north from Oswego, to what?... see their son play basketball? Hell no, they can see him play basketball in Oswego any time they want. They came up to see "the bear", (not the magicman, they met me last year, I'm old news) since it would be their last chance to do so. He ain't playing next year, you know! Even told them how Mrs. Bear's sister taught the Burridge boys in school and of course they had some questions for you about that. Now you're going to disappoint them for the 2nd year in a row. And to think, they've hung on every word you've said, every pearl of wisdom you've polished, every little golden nugget of SUNYAC Legend and Lore you mined from deep in the recesses of that fabled cerebellum of yours,.... and for what? To get blown off once again. OH THE HUMANITY!! Last year you had the crud or something and this year you got a bum knee. You getting old or what?  You better not try and pull this sh!t when I come over there in two weeks. I'll come gunning for you. I'm  :o

PS: You can't get the darn soccer team to to get one of those reclining wheelchairs and wheel you into Jerry's Gym and set you up at the end of the scorer's table? The football team has been doing that at Middlebury for about 25 years for the same fellow who's a big fan of the hoops team. He's unable to walk so they go get him. They call it "Picking up David Butch" (not sure if I got his name right I just remembered his name) but it was featured on ESPN last year. I saw him at the Middlebury game on Tuesday, as they wheeled him in and they set Butch up right next to the player's bench. You'd think they could do it for Potsdam's biggest fan, "the bear" just once or twice. ;D

PPS:  Pleasegetwellsoon!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 05:42:17 AM
The #1 team in the East Region NYU was upset Friday evening as the UAA's 7th place team, Carnegie-Mellon flew into New York City and toppled the 1st place and 17th ranked Violets 70-68. The Tartans took the lead for good at the 10:46 mark of the 1st half and held off NYU down the stretch. The Tartans led by as much as 12 points in the 1st period and still had an 14 point lead with 14:37 to go in the game. Violets slowly cut into that gap and got it down to 2 at 64-62 with 1:33 left to play. Four unanswered points built the lead back to 6 with 39 seconds on the clock, but NYU got a layup and one, then after a Tartan free throw, NYU got a 3 pointer to make it 69-68 and trail by a single point. Again the Violets foul and CM only hits 1 of 2 with 11 ticks remaining. NYU comes down to tie or win it, but has the ball stolen with 1 second left and that's the ballgame. It knocked NYU out of 1st place, probably down a few rungs in the top 25 poll and will certainly hurt them a bit in the regional rankings. Buff State or Oswego may be the beneficiary of that loss at some point down the road.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2012, 07:26:55 AM
Dear Magic, Thanks for the buildup.

As it turns out, IF I get out of the house today, it will be for a 5PM gourmet dining experience that we do annually at Potsdam as a fundraiser for our Community Performance Series.  Since my wife provides several interns to that fine organization during the course of a year, it's a sacrifice that I make, as she's a good sport and generally gives me free rein to go to ball (and puck) games.

My darling wife has been known to scat a tune or two at this event, something she is pretty good at, so that's an added bonus.

So alas, I will miss the Burridges once again, and will have to make the supreme sacrifice of eating an outstanding five course meal, and getting to listen to great jazz while doing so.

So I will be doing everything in my power to do my best gimpy gipper imitation, and make the Gourmet Guys (and a Girl) event.

Hopefully Curtis Pierce will have worn out the Cort folks enough that your Cards can steal on this afternoon.

The Bear


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on January 28, 2012, 10:57:51 AM
Thanks Magic... I usually get to deliver the bad news at the table... as Bengals found out last year... me being the "rather rotund fellow" and all.  Easy to find I guess.  My best also to the Bear... spoke to your wife a little while ago at the Crane auditions and am glad you are on the mend!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2012, 12:03:30 PM

And we, too, send along 'get well' wishes to The Bear, though sounds like he's on his way judging from this evening's activities. Of course, his beloved courtly Bears could have certainly helped speed up the process with a few good showings. And for that, sorry for Friday result but pulling for you this afternoon! One good 'W' should have you up and jigging a short time later. By the way, this evening's entertainment right up my alley. Some nice smooth jazz, man! We here in Sarasota region know those sounds only too well. Outstanding winter shows hereabouts in many venues.

But speaking of good wins, know Magic's at odds with us today. We'd warn him to be wary of the Winter ......  up in the north country you certainly know that word! J. Winter with quite the off night on Friday. Talk about manning up, however, how 'bout B. Manning show. We don't anticipate another cold Winter's day. But Corts do walk a pretty good wire act this season (Oswego debacle the exception). That said, Burgh will be tough hurdle.

Hope Cards' live stats operating on even keel. Had a few moments last evening. In fact, never did close out final 0:13 and that sent us scurrying to finalize. Had a feeling foul line was the difference. A bit of a twist. We remember when guests always felt they got the hosing. From Magic's musings, sounded like both sides felt cheated.

Fredonia last night didn't get separation until late. A. Billups trey made it 45-35 at 4:09. Fourth game in which Freds hold foe under 45 points. Oneonta shoots 24 percent. Devil J.Bryant 14 pts, D. Goodwin 11 pts, L. Smith 8 rebs and 3 assts. RDragon F. Kelly 17 pts(3x6fg, 9x10ft)


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 04:15:30 PM
Computer problems at my home today have to make some quick picks then off to the Plattsburgh-Cortland game

Cortland at Plattsburgh

Cortland looking for a weekend sweep. Plattsburgh looking for a win. Losers of 4 straight the Cards need to play today like they did yesterday and they'll be fine. Cards better play man to man or Cortland's zonebreakers will have a field day. Winter, Manning, and Co. put a hurting on the Burgh last year. I don't think the friendly confines of Memorial Hall will be that friendly again this year. Pointspread has Red Dragons favored by 5 but I'm going with the Cards 69-66.

Oswego at Potsdam

Lakers SUNYAC streak at 25 and counting. Bears won't have enough weapons to prevent #26. Pointspread favors Oswego by 14. That's sounds right. Oswego 73 Potsdam 58.

Oneonta at Buffalo State

Red Dragons hung with the Bengals in their first meeting back in December. Don't think that will happen this time around. Buffalo St. is favored by 18. This one could get ugly early. Bengals 92 Oneonta 62

New Paltz at Fredonia

Tough game to predict as Fredonia continues to move up in the standings and New Paltz continues on a downward trend. Hawks won soundly when they met in Hawk Center back in December. Fredonia thinking revenge and I think they'll get it with their defensive efforts of late. oddsmakers have them favored by 10 but I think it will be closer.  Blue Devils win it 65-60.

Geneseo St. at Brocklport St.

Golden Eagles suffered a narrow defeat at Geneseo 2 weeks ago. The tables will be turned today. Golden Eagles win this one 67-62.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2012, 04:43:32 PM

Cortland over Plattsburgh 37-23 at the half. Breaks 14 all tie at 11:22 on B. Manning trey. Manning with 10 pts. Pburgh's J. Perez and S. Fields each saddled early with two fouls

Buffalo State hitting on all cylinders in 53-37 intermission rout of Oneonta. Bengals 22x32fg. A. Nagaya 18 pts(8x8fg), J. Simmons 13 pts (5x9fg)

Oswego nears half with 36-29 edge on Potsdam. H. Ward 16 pts

Fredonia and New Paltz squared at 33 miday through their tilt
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2012, 05:52:05 PM

Am sure Magic's heart must have skipped a beat ....know mine did ..........as in Cortland 65, Plattsburgh 58, which says little about this one ....as in !!!!!!!!

Corts with 45-25 lead with 17:09 left .......Cards begin comeback at 16:34 paced by J. Moody and S. Fields ........on Fields hoop with 4:04 left ......IT'S 53-53 .......

RDragon J. White then appears after being missing in action a good deal of the weekend. He counters Field with a basket at 3:44, his eighth and ninth points. B. Manning finishes his 16 point game at 2:48 to hike lead to 57-53. White adds two points but K. Brooks gets them back for Cards .... and it's 59-55 at 1:39. Winters FTs at 1:23 get daylight and he finishes the job from the line. Both sides score at the horn. Winters 17 pts(9x10ft), Manning 16 pts., and J. Smith 10 pts. Actually, Magic, Manning sat out last season. For Pburgh in heartbreaking loss it was Fields and Moody with 15 pts apiece
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2012, 05:58:34 PM

Buffalo St. has no worries in 102-65 blitzing of Oneonta. Bengal A. Nagaya absolutely shines ......as in 30 pts on 13x13 field goals .....4x7ft, 9 rebs in 27 minutes!! J. Simmons 17 pts, N. McLean 12 pts. Buffs 40x66 from the field. Oneonta's F. Kelly 13 pts, N. Sarchioto 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
Oswego State 76 Potsdam State 56

New Paltz 54 Fredonia 52
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2012, 06:33:05 PM

New Paltz wins on A. Siergiez deuce in the paint at 0:00. Tight throughout second half, tied at 49 at 3:01. NP S. Jenkins connects at 1:47 from beyond the arc. D. Goodwin matches for the Devils. Hawk M. Devine 21 pts(9x17fg). J. Bryant nets 13 pts in defeat.

Oswego's H. Ward winds up with 23 pts(7x9fg), 8 rebs. S. Michele with 15 pts(5x7fg); C. Burridge 15 pts(4x8fg), 4 blks; C. Monaghan 10 pts, 4 assts; C. Gilkes 4 assts. Bears C. Pierce 15 pt, 12 rebs; R. Duquette 10 pts. Lakers 23x49fg, Pdam 22x57
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2012, 08:49:35 PM
  Good weekend for my beloved BENGALS. Especially happy for Ahmed Nagaya (13 for 13 today and 19 of 23 = 42 points for the weekend). His 15 rebounds for the weekend were an added plus. Putting in 48 mins for the weekend will hopefully allow him to enjoy the first weekend of his fellow students back to school. An added plus for the weekend was the BENGALS 24 assists to only 7 turnovers vs. New Paltz yesterday.

  As proud as many were of the BENGALS performance vs. New paltz,  many were equally impressed with the BENGALS discipline today vs. Oneonta. #15 for Oneonta - Nick Sarchioto, tried singlehandly to start a brawl with any Bengal who would go. With less than 3 mins gone (17:53 mark to be exact) in the first half, during a deadball, Sarchioto uses his elbow against Norm Simmons head to create space. Referee calls Flagrant 1 and Simmons shoots 1 (makes 1). In the 2nd half (17:49) while wrestling with Jake Simmons for a loose ball, Sarchioto pushes Jake Simmons back to the floor as Simmons attempts to get up (after the referee blows the whistle). Jake pushes back..double tech! And then with 13:27 left in the 2nd half, all hell breaks out in front of the Dragons bench, with a number of technicals called..coaches running on the floor to offer restraint and Sarchioto being ejected.

  I've been around the BENGALS for 6 plus years, however I must admit that, before today,  I have never seen a Yac player get a flagrant 1 and 2 Technicals in the same game. I guess when you are 1-10 in Conference play then stuff like that happens. >:(  ???. Don't know. Kudo's to the brave BENGAL coach who restrained a number of BENGAL players from running on the court to join thier outnumbered teamamtes, (who were being threatened/outnumbered by the entire Oneonta team). (I understand that coach is a friend of With Age came. :). )

  Justin Mitchell's return (from being off 3 weeks with a high ankle sprain) was also a welcome sight (22 mins total for the weekend). Didn't really need him this weekend (plus I know that Magicman wants a healthy Justin when the BENGALS arrive on Friday).  ::). Justin will do his best to make sure that magicman happy. ;)

Best news of the weekend goes to the NCAA who ruled Friday that the BENGALS will not be penalized for scheduling their exhibiton with U.B., after Nov. 15th! No lost games...no penalty! Great weekend! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 08:57:56 PM
Glad to hear that the Bengals won't suffer a penalty that might have hurt their possible postseason participation.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
Brockport avenges their 1 point loss to Geneseo on January 17th as they down the Blue Knights 71-67 this evening.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 28, 2012, 05:52:05 PM

Am sure Magic's heart must have skipped a beat ....know mine did ..........as in Cortland 65, Plattsburgh 58, which says little about this one ....as in !!!!!!!!

Corts with 45-25 lead with 17:09 left .......Cards begin comeback at 16:34 paced by J. Moody and S. Fields ........on Fields hoop with 4:04 left ......IT'S 53-53 .......

RDragon J. White then appears after being missing in action a good deal of the weekend. He counters Field with a basket at 3:44, his eighth and ninth points. B. Manning finishes his 16 point game at 2:48 to hike lead to 57-53. White adds two points but K. Brooks gets them back for Cards .... and it's 59-55 at 1:39. Winters FTs at 1:23 get daylight and he finishes the job from the line. Both sides score at the horn. Winters 17 pts(9x10ft), Manning 16 pts., and J. Smith 10 pts. Actually, Magic, Manning sat out last season. For Pburgh in heartbreaking loss it was Fields and Moody with 15 pts apiece

You are right jdex, it wasn't Manning it was Jeremy Smith I was thinking of who went 7x9 from downtown last year against the Cards. Winter was 4x6 and Connelly was also 4x6. 15x22 from beyond the arc between them. This year was much better they were only 5x17. ;D Still enough for the win. :P

Who in hay is J.White. ???  Never mind as I check with livestats, I see you meant J. Winter. You must be having a Red Dragon flashback. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on January 28, 2012, 10:57:51 AM
Thanks Magic... I usually get to deliver the bad news at the table... as Bengals found out last year... me being the "rather rotund fellow" and all.  Easy to find I guess.  My best also to the Bear... spoke to your wife a little while ago at the Crane auditions and am glad you are on the mend!

I'll be sure and say hello when I visit Maxy Hall in 2 weeks. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2012, 10:57:12 PM

As they say ......haste makes waste  ........white .....ephs ....... .....would have been hastier had we not had computer problems scanning the last few moments of three games .....or attempting to ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 11:02:14 PM
Cortland 65 Plattsburgh 58:

Had to many irons in the fire today and computer problems at home only compounded the issue. Never made it to the game until the 2nd half was underway. Knew from livestats that the Cardinals were taking it on the chin and were down by 14 at the break. Looks like the Cardinals came out of the gate in good shape and grabbed the early lead at 11-4, after 5 minutes of play. It would turn out to be their largest lead of the game. Unfortunately that advantage was short lived as the Red Dragons, fueled by John Connelly and Brian Manning went on a 16-3 run over the next 6+ minutes to go in front 20-14 with 8:42 left in the period. Still up 24-18, Cortland used a 7-0 spurt to make it a double digit edge at 31-18 and coasted into the break up 37-23 on a Jeremy Smith jumper at the buzzer.

I arrived at Memorial Hall with 18:18 left in the 2nd half only to find my Cards down by 21 at 44-23 as the Red Dragons opened the period with another 7 unanswered points. My entrance must have pumped up the Cardinals as they immediately went on a 10-2 run to cut it to 46-33 and get within shouting distance. After a Jesse Winter basket made it 48-33, the Cardinal's freshman guard, Jordan Moody, whose playing time has increased over the past 4 games, hit a jumper, and two 3 pointers, sandwiched around a Cortland bucket, to cut the lead to single digits for the first time since the 4:50 mark of the 1st period at 50-41. Shavar Fields followed with another bucket for the Cards, and Moody buried another triple to make it 50-46 with 7:19 left. Cortland's Smith made 2 free throws but Fields and Moody struck again with a layup and Moody's 4th three pointer of the period to cut it to a single point at 52-51 with 5:20 to go. jdex was right, my heart was a pumping. And after Corts Manning made 1 of 2 free throws, Fields was there again with a nice layup to tie the game at 53 with 4 minutes to play. Sadly that was the highlight of my afternoon, as Jesse Winter (a constant thorn in the Cardinals side for the past 2 years) made a beautiful drive to the basket and somehow avoided the Plattsburgh bigs to make an outstanding up and in layup. Plattsburgh comes down, misses a layup and Brian Manning (another thorn, as jdex mentioned earlier), with the shot clock winding down, throws up a wing and a prayer that banks in off the backboard to give the Red Dragons a 4 point edge with 2:48 left. Plattsburgh calls a time out and Manning comes to the Cortland bench with an awful big cheesy grin on his face. Cardinals are fouled after the break but missed both free throws (we suck at the line this year) and Winter comes down and scores again to make it a 6 point lead with 2 minutes to go. Card's Ketema Brooks makes a nice driving layup to cut it to 4 but Cards have to foul and Winter is the wrong man to put on the line. Cortland's final 6 points were all Winter free throws as he closes out the Cards in their comeback attempt. Heard after the game that the buzzer beater by Cortland to end the first half was a similar heave to Manning's desparate bank in. Tough loss for my Cards as their hopes of hosting a playoff game are slipping further and further away. With only 10 home games this year I was hoping for a chance at an 11th one.

On the bright side of things freshman Jordan Moody looks like a player. Hope he can continue to shine and get the minutes he looks to deserve. Tough choices for Coach Curle with so many young players that are looking to get PT. Keeping them all happy is a challenge. We need to go to the Grinnell system and bring them in a wave at a time. ;)  For the 2nd night in a row the Cards won the battle of the boards against an upper echelon team, with 31 boards to 21 for Cortland. Both teams took pretty good care of the ball with 12 turnovers for Plattsburgh and only 9 for the Corts. Plattsburgh had 7 steals and 3 blocks while Cortland had 4 steals and 2 blocks.
Cortland shot 20x44 from the field (45.4%), 5x17 from the arc (29.4%) and as usual an outstanding 20x23 from the line (87%).
Plattsburgh was 23x57 from the field (40.4%), 8x22 from downtown (36.4%) but only 4x9 from the line (44.4%) It marked the 2nd straight game Plattsburgh faced a huge discrepancy from the charity stripe. Over the weekend we had 15 total attempts while the visitors had 45. That's 3 times as many. No one can accuse Plattsburgh of getting any "Home Cooking". Pretty soon we'll be known as the Oakland Raiders of the SUNYAC.

Cortland, 9-3 in the SUNYAC 14-5 overall will now be off until next Saturday when they host Oswego State at 4:00 PM and hope to avenge their meltdown of last Saturday. The Red Dragons remain in 2nd place, a half game ahead of the Bengals in the standings.

Plattsburgh 4-7 in the conference, 6-12 overall will be at home Tuesday to take on the other Red Dragons. Cardinals find themselves in a 7th place tie with New Paltz after their current 5 game losing streak. Perhaps Oneonta may be just what the doctor ordered, as Buffalo State and Fredonia come into town next weekend and then the Cards end up with their final 4 games on the road. No one did them any favors when this year's schedule was made out. :P     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 11:04:53 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 28, 2012, 10:57:12 PM

As they say ......haste makes waste  ........white .....ephs ....... .....would have been hastier had we not had computer problems scanning the last few moments of three games .....or attempting to ......

Damn computers, can't live with them, can't live without them. Well on second thought, we did pretty good in the 50's and 60's without 'em. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2012, 11:47:15 PM
Brockport 71 Geneseo 67

Golden Eagles weren't about to let this one get away after last week's narrow defeat, but the Blue Knights didn't make easy for them. Port sprinted from the starting line and opened up a double digit 11-0 lead before Geneseo could get out of the blocks. Knights hung tough and came back with an 18-5 spurt to gain the lead for the 1st time with 7:55 to play in the half. Five lead changes would occur before the Eagles finally went ahead 26-24 on a 3 pointer by Lance Legister. They took a 33-29 edge into the locker room.
Up by 2 early in the 2nd the Eagles used an 8-3 run to gain a 45-38 lead. The Knights returned the favor and got 3 straight baskets ending with an and one to tie it at 45. Brockport maintained the lead but it was never more than 4 points until eventually the Blue Knights caught them once again at 60 apiece with 5:52 remaining. A three pointer by Derek Klein and a jumper by Stephen Sisson made it 65-60. Then after a basket by Geneseo's Connor Fedge, Port's Jordan Major hit another triple to make it 68-62, with 1:44 to go. After the teams exchanged free throws a Ryan Riefenhauser layup pulled the Knights to within 2 at 69-67 with 16 seconds left. Port's John Ivy was fouled and made the clinching free throws to ice it for the Eagles.

Brockport was led by Kyheem Green with 19 points, follow by Ivy with 14, Legister with 12 and Klein with 10.  Port got killed on the boards 35-23 but caused 20 Geneseo turnovers to only 12 for themselves. Eagles had 13 steals to 6 for Geneseo.
Brockport shot 23x49 from the field (46.9%), 7x20 3's (35%) and 18x23 ft (78.3%).

Geneseo also placed 4 players in double figs led by Gordon Lyons with 15 pts and 9 boards. Ryan Riefenhauser had a double double with 14 points and 10 rebounds. Connor Fedge and Mike Hoy both had 11 points.
Geneseo shot 22x49 (49%) fg, 2x9 3's (22.2%), and 17x25 ft (68%).

Brockport improves to 5-5 in the YAC 7-12 overall. They are a half game behind Geneseo in fifth place and Tuesday night will travel to Oswego to take on the league leaders.

Geneseo drops to 6-5 in conference play and 8-10 overall. The Blue Knights have now dropped back to back contests for the first time since November 30th and have fallen 2 games off the pace in the battle for the 2nd spot. They are off until next Friday when they host New Paltz.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2012, 12:49:55 AM
Is it just me or is anyone else getting..".Server error in '/' Application" when they try to go to the Mens basketball section on the SUNYAC website? It's been happening all day...on 2 different computers. Cant access any SUNYAC mens hoop stats...etc.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2012, 02:39:17 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2012, 12:49:55 AM
Is it just me or is anyone else getting..".Server error in '/' Application" when they try to go to the Mens basketball section on the SUNYAC website? It's been happening all day...on 2 different computers. Cant access any SUNYAC mens hoop stats...etc.

I went to the SUNYAC website around 8:30 PM and I got it.  I was looking for a link to Livestats for the Brockport game as the Port website didn't have one. Apparently they were too busy with hockey to have anyone doing livestats for the hoop game.I found a livestat link  on the SUNYAC website but when I brought it up it was stats for the Cortland-Brockport game from a while ago. So there was no way to get any info on the Port-Geneseo game as it was being played. About 20 minutes later I went to the YAC website again to bring up the composite schedule and when I tried to bring up the page I got the message you got about server error. It's still doing that as I just tried it again. The website comes up but the men's basketball link says server error. It does that for all the other teams as well. So it's not just you Champ, apparently the website needs some maintainence done to it. :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2012, 12:20:30 PM
Whew. Thanks magicman!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2012, 01:37:27 PM

Yes, that was our reference to computer woes late Saturday afternoon. Was operating off SUNYAC composite sked site, then went haywire at the time game's were counting down. Was able to bring up composite site later Saturday, but no scores yet listed from Saturday. Same today. Have seen service error notation there in the past
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2012, 07:07:30 AM
To "the bear"
I've made several references to my trip to Potsdam to see the Cards take on the Bears in a couple of weeks on Saturday Feb. 11th. I keep looking at a schedule that Coach Curle emailed to me before the season started and before D3hoops or the Plattsburgh State website had it posted. I printed up a copy and taped it to my office wall. Just discovered over the weekend, that both the upcoming game against Oneonta, and the game against Potsdam had the wrong dates. That schedule shows the Potsdam game being played on Sat. Feb 11th but it's actually Friday the 10th. That makes it more difficult for me but I'm still going to make the trip. Hope your knee is well on it's way to recovery by then. Your best man should be rolling into town this weekend to watch the alumni game. Wish they had scheduled it for the weekend of the Plattsburgh game, I'd have hung around on Saturday to see it. No Saturday game that weekend though so it had to be the weekend of the 3rd and 4th.

Need the Bears to do both themselves and my Cards a favor this weekend and take down those Blue Devils. I need Freds to experience the wonderful hospitality of the North Country and leave with 2 L's.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2012, 07:23:10 PM
New Top 25 poll is out and the pleasant surprise is that Oswego State is back on board, checking in at #22. I just knew if I kept voting for them in the Posters' Poll those D3hoops voters would see the light and join my bandwagon. The Lakers saw their vote total rise from 40 to 89 as they climbed out of the Others Receiving Votes category. In doing so they outpointed 8 teams that were ranked ahead of them last week. There's not really a good reason to keep them out of the Top 25 with a D3 record of 15-2. That 3rd loss to Texas-Pan American, 59-54, could almost be considered a win in my book as they nearly beat that DI team on their home court and might have without some Texas Style home cooking.

Buffalo State also made a return to the polls as they received 2 points to get back into the ORV category. It's not much support but it's a start toward climbing back up the mountain. If they continue to win over the next 3 weeks, and there's no reason to think they can't put a winning streak together, now that they're healthy, they may get ranked once again before the end of the year. I can see their current streak of 3 in a row getting to 8, before they run into their roadblock on 2-17. That would put them at 20-4 (20-3 if you disregard the loss to DI University of Buffalo) and might be enough for the voters to give them a second chance.  Their record at the time that the voters  turn in their poll for week #11 would be 19-4 because the Fredonia game won't have taken place yet. Of course a loss to the Lakers on the 17th might drop them right back into the ORV category in week #12, if they should make the Poll in week #11.

Elsewhere in the East Region, NYU after a 1-1 week fell two spots to #19 with 146 points. They lost 46 points for the week and I'm surprised it wasn't more considering they lost to one of the lower tier teams in the UAA. They remain the highest ranked team in the East.

Hartwick made a reappearance in the ORV category as the Hawks picked up 19 points and check in at #34.

No other East team was mentioned in the poll.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 31, 2012, 01:09:51 AM
Glad to see the Lakers back in the top 25 and the Bengals appearing. Don't think any other YAC team has a chance to appear without a "deep run" say sweet sixteen which of course means a YAC tournament win.  Think Hobart might have appeared too if not for their trip up against RPI. Contemplating about who to go watch on the 10th -11th.  Will definitely let my "partners in hoops" know.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 31, 2012, 03:07:36 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 31, 2012, 01:09:51 AM
Contemplating about who to go watch on the 10th -11th.  Will definitely let my "partners in hoops" know.

BENGALS vs. Geneseo 2/10 8 p.m  & BENGALS vs. Brockport (SENIOR DAY) 2/11 4p.m.

Just thought I'd offer an option for those 2 days! ;)

P.s magicman..you should have never shown me how to color and scroll! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2012, 03:32:57 PM
Being a Buffalo native, there are a lot of other places I'd rather be on the weekend before Valentine's Day than the Queen City of the Great Lakes.  Too much chance of a blizzard.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2012, 05:21:30 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 31, 2012, 03:07:36 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 31, 2012, 01:09:51 AM
Contemplating about who to go watch on the 10th -11th.  Will definitely let my "partners in hoops" know.

BENGALS vs. Geneseo 2/10 8 p.m  & BENGALS vs. Brockport (SENIOR DAY) 2/11 4p.m.

Just thought I'd offer an option for those 2 days! ;)

P.s magicman..you should have never shown me how to color and scroll! :)

I've created a monster!! ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2012, 05:57:57 PM
Three games on tap for tonight Not much time so here are my picks:

Oswego 74 Brockport 68  Game is at Oswego 8 PM

New Paltz 78  Potsdam 71  Game is at Potsdam 6 pm

Plattsburgh 75 Oneonta 64 Game is at Plattsburgh 6 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2012, 07:58:38 PM
Two finals to report.

New Paltz 64 Potsdam 53

Plattsburgh 67 Oneonta 64

Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2012, 09:33:05 PM
Oswego State leading Brockport 72-59 with 6:30 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2012, 10:37:59 PM
Oswego defeats Brockport 89-75 to remain unbeaten in the YAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2012, 10:58:56 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh-Oneonta game won by the Cardinals 67-64. Not a very pretty sight tonight in Memorial Hall. Cardinals had an early double digit lead at 21-11 with half the period gone by. Cardinals would extend that lead to 29-13 with 8:22 remaining. Up by a 33-19 score with 2:39 to play the Cardinals gave up 6 unanswered points as the Red Dragons Zach Mager hit a layup at the buzzer and the teams went into the break with a 33-25 Plattsburgh lead. Cards come out on fire and quickly outscore Oneonta by a 15-6 margin and go back on top by 17 points at 48-31 with slightly more than five minutes gone by in the period. Still up by 16 points with 13:11 to play the Red Dragons score 7 straight points to cut it to single digits at 51-42 at the 12 minute mark. The lead would fluctuate between 8 and 11 points until there was 4:30 left to play. Oneonta down 59-49 then outscored the Cardinals 11-5 to close to 64-60. A driving layup by the Cards John Perez made it a 6 point edge with 1:19 remaining. Red Dragons Ryan Clark gets an easy layup on their possession and after a Cardinal miss, Oneonta's Frankie Kelly is fouled and sinks them both to make it a 2 point game. After a Red Dragon timeout, Cards Ezra Hodgson is fouled and makes 1 of 2 with 8 seconds to play. Oneonta's Kelly comes down and misses a shot which they rebound and kick out to Kevin Donahue for a final attempt at the equalizer.The 3 point attempt comes up short and the Cards escape with the win.

Plattsburgh put on a pretty dismal display in this game every time they built a lead. They should have won this game by 25 points and to have to hang on at the end was embarassing. They were playing the final 7 or 8 minutes like they were the team behind instead of 10 points ahead. Playing not to lose instead of putting the Red Dragons away. You give a team like this a chance and it comes back to bite you in the behind. Brockport found that out 10 days ago against Oneonta.

Cardinals were led by John Perez and Shavar Fields who shared the game's scoring honors with 20 points each. Perez (8x11 fg, 0x1 3's, 4x9 ft) led the Cards in rebounds with 6 and Fields (6x9 fg, 1x1 3's, 7x9 ft) had 4. Shamoy McIntosh had 8 points, (3x5 fg, 2x3 3's), 4 rebounds and 3 steals in 14 minutes. Ketema Brooks had 6 assists, 4 rebounds, 3points and a steal. Cards shot 23x45 from the field (51.1%), 4x11 3's (36.4%) and 17x29 ft (58.6%). They were beat on the boards 34-27 and had 11 turnovers (seemed like more than that) to 9 for Oneonta.

Red Dragons were led by freshman point guard Frankie Kelly with 16 points (3x11 fg, 0x4 3's 10x10 ft). Kevin Donahue had 11 points (4x9 fg, 2x4 3's, 1x2 ft). Ryan Clark led the Red Dragons with 8 rebounds and scored 6 points. Oneonta shot 20x56 fg (35.7%)

It was a much needed win for the Cardinals tonight as they  halt a 5 game losing streak and stay tied with New Paltz for 7th place in the standings. Cards currently own the tiebreaker over the Hawks by virtue of thei earlier win back in December. Avisit to Hawk Center on Feb. 14th will probably determine that scenario. Up next for the Cards is Buffalo State as they roll into the Burgh this Friday night, followed by the Fredonia Blue Devils on Saturday afternoon. Plattsburgh improves to 7-12 overall and 5-7 in conference play.

Oneonta falls to 2-17 overall 1-11 in the YAC. They will travel to Brockport on Friday night looking to repeat their upset of the Eagles on Jan. 21st. Good luck with that.     

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 31, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 31, 2012, 10:58:56 PM
Oneonta falls to 2-17 overall 1-11 in the YAC. They will travel to Brockport on Friday night looking to repeat their upset of the Eagles on Jan. 21st. Good luck with that.     

Methinks that maybe you won't be picking Oneonta to win Friday ??? ::) ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2012, 12:13:01 AM
Oswego 89 Brockport 75

Oswego grabbed the early lead at 6-0 and they were never headed. The Eagles closed to 8-7 but the Lakers quickly made it 13-7 and stayed ahead throughout much of the stanza by 4 to 8 points.  Up 24-19 with 6:10 left in the half the Lakers would outscore the Eagles 20-14 to go into the break with a 44-33 lead. Laker's Sean Michele opened the 2nd half with a 3 pointer to extend the lead to 14 but the Eagles scored 7 unanswered points to make it 47-40, two and a half minutes into the period. Led by Hayden Ward, the Lakers  came back and scored 11 straight points, capped by a Chad Burridge dunk, to open up an 18 point advantage at 58-40 with 14:14 remaining. It was a run that put the Eagles away as they never got it closer than 9 points the rest of the way. After building their biggest lead of the night to 19 points on a Ryan Sheridan 3 pointer with 11:46 to go the Lakers coasted to the finish line. Eagles with a late push cut it to 79-70 with 1:46 remaining but Oswego hit 10 of 12 from the line after that to salt it away.

Oswego was led by Hayden Ward, who was the game's high scorer with 24 points (8x16 fg, 1x3 3's, 7x10 ft) and he finished with a double double as he grabbed 12 rebounds as well. Sean Michele was next with 16 points (3x6 fg, 3x4 3's, 7x8 ft) and 6 assists. Conor Monaghan had 13 points (4x7 fg, 1x2 3's 4x4 ft), Chris Gilkes had 12 (5x9 fg, 0x2 3's, 2x2 ft) and Ryan Sheridan added 11 (3x5 fg, 2x4 3's, 3x4 ft) as the Lakers got balanced scoring from their top 6 players. Chad Burridge didn't get the 40 he had last game against the Eagles, as they must have worked hard to shut him down, but you pick your poison with this team and everyone else made the Eagles pay. Burridge only scored 7 points but did have 6 rebounds and 3 steals. Oswego shot 29x55 fg (52.7%), 7x16 3's (43.8%) and 24x32 ft (75%). They grabbed 34 rebounds to 32 for Port and only had 10 turnovers to 16 for the Eagles. They came away with 8 steals to 5 for Brockport, a statistic that usually favors the Eagles.

Brockport had 3 players in double figures led by Donnell Jackson with 19 points (9x12 fg, 1x3 ft). Gerald Williams had 16 points (3x9 fg, 1x4 3's, 9x10 ft) and Kyheem Green added 11 (5x9 fg, 1x1 ft). Green led the Eagles with 8 rebounds. Brockport shot 25x53 fg (47.2%), 4x9 3's (44.4%), and 21x27 ft (77.8%). 

#22 Oswego ups their record to 16-3 overall (16-2 vs D3) and 12-0 in the SUNYAC. They travel to Cortland on Saturday to take on the 2nd place Red Dragons, knowing that even with a loss, they still walk out of Corey Gymnasium with the conference lead. Any window of opportunity that other SUNYAC hopefuls had of unseating the Lakers for the regular season crown is slowly slipping away as they march toward a possible sweep of their conference foes. With the other results in conference play tonight, the Lakers, Red Dragons of Cortland, and the Bengals,have all clinched conference playoff spots. Not that it was ever in doubt that these three teams would be there.

Brockport drops to 7-11 overall and 5-6 in the conference. They are tied for 5th place with Fredonia but hold the tiebreaker over the Blue Devils for the time being. They are both a game behind Geneseo for that all important 4th spot, and home court, for a 1st round playoff game. Brockport could improve their lot considerably this weekend as they host 2 of the lower teams in the standings. Last place Oneonta comes to town on Friday night and Port will look to put a monkey stomping on these Red Dragons as payback for the game that got away 10 days ago. New Paltz rolls into the Port on Saturday afternoon. If things go their way they could find themselves back into 4th place come Saturday night.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2012, 08:57:26 AM
New Paltz 64 Potsdam 53

Bears and Hawks played a back and forth first half with the Hawks holding the early lead.  Potsdam finally caught them at the 15:00 mark on back to back buckets by Rob Duquette and Zach Adams to go in front 10-9. New Paltz went back up by 5 and the Bears responded with a mini run of their own to re-take the lead at 20-19 with 9:33 to play. The teams traded baskets until the Hawks, up by 1 hit the final 2 scores of the half and went into the break up by 5 at 36-31. The lead continued to remain between 5 to 7 points until New Paltz, ahead 45-39,  scored 8 straight points to boost the lead to 53-39 with just 6:44 left to play. The closest the Bears could get after that was 9 points. The lead grew to 15 before a couple of late Potsdam baskets cut it to 11.

New Paltz was led by Matt Devine with a game high 19 points (7x16 fg, 1x43's, 4x4 ft). Devine also captured rebounding honors with 11 boards.  Harris Wichard added 16 points (5x8 fg, 4x6 3's, 2x2 ft) and Alan Siergiej had 9 rebounds, 4 assists and 4 pts. New Paltz shot 22x46 (47.8%) from the field, 7x16 3's (43.8%) and 13x19 ft (68.4%).  The Hawks had 36 rebounds to 31 for the Bears, but committed 16 turnovers to 10 for Potsdam. Bears had 8 steals to 1 for New Paltz.

Potsdam was led in scoring by Tony Efese who came off the bench and tied for game honors with 19 (9x13 fg, 1x3 3's, 0x1 ft). He also added 4 rebounds, and 3 steals. Curtis Pierce had 13 points (5x11vfg, 0x1 3's, 3x4 ft), 6 reboiunds and 3 steals. Bears big man Duquette was held to 2 points on 1x7 shooting. He did grab 6 rebounds but Potsdam needs more production than that from their inside game. Hard to believe that the guy I saw score 23 points and grab 9 rebounds against Plattsburgh 2 weeks ago could only manage 2 points against one of the worst defensive teams in the YAC. Potsdam shot 22x46 fg, (36.7%), only 1x11 3's (9.1%) and 8x12 ft (66.7%).

New Paltz upped their record to 8-10 overall and 5-7 in the conference. The Hawks hit the road for 2 games this weekend, first at Geneseo and then Brockport.

Potsdam's freefall continues as their losing streak has now reached double digits standing at 10 straight. Their overall record is now 4-15 and they drop to 2-10 in conference play. With Fredonia and Buffalo State coming to town this weekend there is the possibility for a win as they only lost to the Blue Devils 47-44 down there. I can pretty much guarantee they won't be getting a W against the Bengals.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 01, 2012, 09:47:40 AM
Hey Bear -Balmy Buffalo is now the Miami of the North - 57 degrees and sunny yesterday! At least on the guage in my truck!  Looks like the Lakers appear "unstoppable"?  I was impressed with Ward the first time I saw him as a freshman.  Just a beast.  He seems like he,s enjoying himself now.  I would assume from what I see that both he and Chad will be first team all league?  Thoughts?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 1-28-12 was Cortland's Brian Manning. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

The SUNYAC named Cortland junior guard Brian Manning Men's Basketball  Player of the Week after helping lead the Red Dragons to a trio of wins on the road last week.

Manning averaged 18 points per game as the Red Dragons moved into second place in the conference standings. He started the week with 10 points and six rebounds in a 73-66 win over Brockport on Tuesday. Friday night, Manning scored a career-high 28 points on 11-of-15 shooting from the field (4-of-7 three-pointers) to account for nearly half of the Red Dragons' points in a 58-50 win at Potsdam. He followed that the next day with 16 points in a 65-58 victory at Plattsburgh. On the week he shot 54.3 percent from the field, 42% from the arc and 80% from the foul line.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
Congrats to Cortlands Manning on Yac P.O. Week. I would have bet my Buffalo Bills t-shirt that Ahmed Nagaya would have won it >:( but I can see where Manning may have edged him out everso slighty! :)

Maybe that will make "The Prince" work harder this weekend, up north. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 02, 2012, 08:29:41 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
Congrats to Cortlands Manning on Yac P.O. Week. I would have bet my Buffalo Bills t-shirt that Ahmed Nagaya would have won it >:( but I can see where Manning may have edged him out everso slighty! :)

Maybe that will make "The Prince" work harder this weekend, up north. ;)

"Bet your Buffalo Bills t-shirt"?  You mean if you won you'd give it away?  I guess I can understand thet.   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on February 02, 2012, 08:29:41 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
Congrats to Cortlands Manning on Yac P.O. Week. I would have bet my Buffalo Bills t-shirt that Ahmed Nagaya would have won it >:( but I can see where Manning may have edged him out everso slighty! :)

Maybe that will make "The Prince" work harder this weekend, up north. ;)

"Bet your Buffalo Bills t-shirt"?  You mean if you won you'd give it away?  I guess I can understand thet.   ;D

Nice 1 Ethelred....NICE 1!!!! ;) I take it that you are NOT a diehard Bills fan. ( Every August, at the Mirage, I put $10.00 on the Bills and the Sabres, to win the Superbowl/Stanley Cup). 1 day I'm gonna get the last laugh!  ;D       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 03, 2012, 08:26:36 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on February 02, 2012, 08:29:41 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2012, 01:13:25 AM
Congrats to Cortlands Manning on Yac P.O. Week. I would have bet my Buffalo Bills t-shirt that Ahmed Nagaya would have won it >:( but I can see where Manning may have edged him out everso slighty! :)

Maybe that will make "The Prince" work harder this weekend, up north. ;)

"Bet your Buffalo Bills t-shirt"?  You mean if you won you'd give it away?  I guess I can understand thet.   ;D

Nice 1 Ethelred....NICE 1!!!! ;) I take it that you are NOT a diehard Bills fan. ( Every August, at the Mirage, I put $10.00 on the Bills and the Sabres, to win the Superbowl/Stanley Cup). 1 day I'm gonna get the last laugh!  ;D       


Hey I grew up a Mets fan in the 60's.  I understand lost causes and the possibility of redemption.  Far more interesting, and rewarding, than expecting to win every year
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2012, 09:17:07 AM
Four games on tap for tonight in the YAC all at 8:00 PM

New Paltz at Geneseo

Geneseo is clinging to 4th place in the standing and hoping to secure a home playoff game in the first round of the tournament. New Paltz is tied for 7th place but only one and a half games out of 4th. Still time for moves to be made and a win tonight would be a big one for the Hawks. New Paltz comes into tonight's contest on a 2 game winning streak (both road wins) and looks to equal their season's longest of 3 in a row. The Blue Knights, after a season best 4 game winning streak, have dropped back to back games against Oswego and Brockport. The oddsmakers have Geneseo favored by 5 points over the Hawks. New Paltz has the 4th highest scoring offense in the league, averaging 72 ppg, but has the worst defensive record in the YAC as they give up almost 78 points a game. Blue Knights score 68 ppg and give up 70. Hawk's Matt Devine making a case for Player of the Year as he leads the conference in scoring with 21.8 ppg and also tops the rebounding charts with 8.8 rpg. Teammate Harris Wichard is close behind in the scoring race as he sits in the 3rd spot with 17.9 and despite his 6'0" height is 10th in rebounding with 6.2 rpg. Knights are led by Ryan Riefenhause with 11.1 ppg and Jordan Jones with 10.7, but have a balanced team with 8 guys capable of putting 20 points in the book on any given night. This is a tough game to predict but I think the Hawks have stretched their luck and a 3rd straight road win will be asking too much. I'm going with the bookies here and taking Geneseo to win a close one 76-73.

Oneonta State at Brockport State

This one is much simpler. Brockport was embarrased to fall behind the last place Red Dragons by 18 points at the half 2 weeks ago. Still down by 19 early in the 2nd the Eagles came all the way back and took a 7 point lead with just under 4 minutes to go. But then Oneonta added insult to injury and ended the game on a 15 to 6 run and stole one from the Golden Eagles. That game and an earlier 1 point loss to Geneseo could come back to haunt Brockport in a big way as they could finish in the 2nd division and play on the road for a first round playoff game. Oneonta has, since that solitary conference win over the Eagles, taken up where they left off and have lost three straight road games. Posted line has Brockport winning by 12 and the angry Eagles may pile it on here. Port avenged their loss to Geneseo, beating the Blue Knights last Saturday. Tonight they take care of that other belt to their beak, as they handle the Red Dragons 80-62.

Fredonia State at Potsdam State

The Blue Devils saw their 3 game winning streak end last Saturday as New Paltz hit a buzzer beater and flew out of Steele Hall with a 54-52 win. Now they travel to the North Country looking to beat up on two teams below them on the totem pole. Potsdam just keeps on losing. Somedays they keep it close and falter at the end.(see 1st New Paltz game, Plattsburgh, Fredonia and Cortland) Sometimes they keep it close and falter in the middle. (see Oswego, 2nd New Paltz game) Other times they falter at the beginning, middle, and end.(see DeSales, St. Lawrence, Buffalo State). The pointspread favors the Blue Devils by 8 points. There will be a lot of excellent players from Potsdam, in town playing basketball this weekend, unfortunately they've all graduated in bygone years. But with the alumni game scheduled for tomorrow afternoon, and Time-Warner televising the Men's and Women's games tonight, I'm going out on a limb here and picking the Bears to win one. All that former Bear talent has to rub off just a little and that might be enough magic to finally get a W. Bears win 62-59. And yes my heart's on my sleeve again.

Buffalo State at Plattsburgh

Speaking of alumni. I saw Khylan Hunt, Travis Gorham, Chris Ruiz, Anthony Williams and Shawn Guzman at recent Plattsburgh State games. Wish we could throw some unis on those guys for tonight's game. If the Cards don't come to play tonight this one could get ugly in a hurry. Not quite sure how the oddsmakers have only made the Bengals an 8 point favorite. They must have seen that 110-68 score of 2 weeks ago and somehow thought that 6 was a 9. I can see it now... Joe Book said to Johnny Maker "Buff State won at home 110-98 and that's a 12 point difference so on the road they'll probably only win by 8, so that's our line. I'd like to take a healthy dose of Bengals if I could find a bookie that would take my bet. Two weeks ago against the Cards, Jake Simmons only had 37 points, tied the SUNYAC record for 3 pointers in a game with 9, and didn't play the last 8 minutes of the game. Number Two man Justin Mitchell didn't play at all. Tonight the Bengals will be at full strength which could mean a full helping of run and gun by the Buff State offense. I can't pick my Cards to win this game but that's not to say they can't. They've hung tough with some pretty good teams this year, just don't have any wins to show for it. I think they'll play well against the Bengals this time around and they darn well better have practiced all week defending the 3ball. Bengals are licking their chops at the prospect of returning to the Queen City with a 10-3 conference record, after this weekend and hoping that: A. Cortland beats Oswego tomorrow to tighten the battle for first place or B. Oswego beats Cortland and the Bengals are in 2nd place all alone.(personally I think the B option will be the winner). Sometimes a great notion doesn't always work out. Just ask Richard Jaeckel. Bengals may come into Memorial Hall tonight a little over confident after the monkey stomping they laid on the Cards 2 weeks ago. That would be a mistake, because these young Cards can play and I'm sure Coach Curle has been on them all week long about not getting embarrassed on their home court. All that being said I think the Bengals will win this one 84-72.                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2012, 06:34:48 PM
jdex will have to hold down the fort tonight as I'll be at the Buffalo State-Plattsburgh game. Then after the game it's off to the hotel to visit with Bengalsrule and the Buff State players. I'll try and keep the players and coaches up real late with magic-cal stories so the Potsdam players can wear them out tomorrow afternoon. :D  At the shoot around this afternoon I made Jake Simmons, Justin Mitchell and Coach Ansari promise me they wouldn't win by more than my 12 point posted margin. (Good luck with those promises.) ::) Cards must have  Bengalsrule worried as he left Buffalo last night without his soap, socks, and ties. Had to chauffeur his little bottom over to the shopping center so he could pick up his supplies. The things I do for the competition. But I have to be a good host, never know when I might call in that favor. Go Cards, Go Bears. North Country pride on the line this weekend. I'm not greedy 2-2 is all I ask in the 4 games. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2012, 10:18:55 PM
Finals in the League tonight:

Buffalo State 92 Plattsburgh 74  Ouch!

Fredonia 73 Potsdam 69    Double Ouch! Ouch!

Geneseo 81 New Paltz 73

Brockport 85 Oneonta 62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 03, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
Magic - I think you posted the ladies score, but men's score not any better, Potsdam 69 Fredonia 73.

Sorry I will miss Bengals tomorrow, as my leg has me basically flat on my back most of the time.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 12:12:26 AM

Brockport makes Oneonta easy pickins, Eagles never trailing. Up 39-23 at the half. Bport 31x63fg. K. Green 20 pts(7x9fg), 3 blks, 3 stls; L. Legister 20 pts(7x12fg) 17'; G. Williams 10 pts(3x5fg); D. Klein 5 assts. Oneonta's D. McLaren 14 pts(5x7fg); D. Lee 11 pts(4x11fg); F. Kelly 11 pts, 3 assts. OSt 22 trnvrs, 18x50fg

Buffalo State by 36-32 over Plattsburgh at intermission and margin balloons to 88-50. Burgh plagued by 25 turnovers and Bengal J. Simmons' marksmanship. He hits 25 pts(9x13fg, 7x11 3s) in 27'. BS 31x65fg, 12x22 3s, 18x24ft, 22 assts. R. Epps 11 pts; A. Nagaya 10 pts; J. Mitchell 10 pts, 5 assts, 2 blks; N. McLean 5 assts. Cards 28x57fg, 7x19 3s, 11x15ft. S. Fields 17 pts(8x12fg); J. Perez 11 pts; R. Junghoon 11 pts; S. McIntosh 10 pts, 5 assts. Burgh with 19 assts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 12:22:13 AM

Fredonia overcomes 27-25 Potsdam edge at midway mark. Devils by 12 with 11:59 left and hike to 14. Bears within five at 1:38 before J. Bryant dunk halts momentum. Still, Pdam pulls to three at 0:12 on C. Pierce trey but never gets off another shot. Fred FT at 0:06 concludes pointmaking. Bryant with 24 pts(10x13fg), 6 rebs in 38'; A. Billups 12 pts; D. Goodwin 12 pts(4x5fg, 2x3 3s); L. Smith 10 pts. Freds 23x46fg, 18x25ft. Potsdam's Pierce 22 pts(8x9fg, 2x3 3s), 3 assts, 3 stls; B. Drysdale 14 pts, 5pf; J. Lambert 14 pts, 6 rebs; T. Efese 10 pts, 5pf in 19'. Bears 26x49fg, 13x22ft

Geneseo and New Paltz battle royally through first half .....10 ties, the last at 33 before Gens take 37-33 lead into the break. Knights assume 12 pt command at 16:33 and hold double figure lead till the very end. Gens 31x56fg. C. Fedge 20 pts(9x11fg), 5 rebs; J. Jones 12 pts; G. Lyons 12 pts; Mike Hoy 10 pts. NP 22x47fg paced by M. Devine 25 pts(8x13fg, 5x7 3s), 8 rebs, 4pf in 31'. H. Wichard with 11 pts, 7 assts; A. Siergiej 11 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 04, 2012, 01:31:13 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 03, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
Sorry I will miss Bengals tomorrow, as my leg has me basically flat on my back most of the time.

Wow bear... This is the 2nd Year in a row that you are missing my BELOVED BENGALS visit to Maxie Hall! Hope your leg gets better. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 04, 2012, 11:03:13 AM
Thanks Bengals, It is a slow process, and Maxcy is such a big place that it's hard to get around when you're gimpy.

Left up to me, I would try to make it, but I am reliant on wifey for transport and assistance, and she thinks I should be horizontal with the leg elevated, following doctors orders.

Hope our Bears make a good showing today.

The Bear
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2012, 03:36:09 PM
All ten teams in action this afternoon. Not a lot of time so I'll make some quick picks. All games tip off at 4:00 PM.

New Paltz at Brockport

Golden Eagles handled the Hawks in New Paltz by a comfortable margin. No reason to think they won't do the same in Brockport. Oddsmakers have the Eagles favored by 10 points . I think the final will be 84-70 Brockport.

Oneonta at Geneseo

Don't look for a score of this game on the D3 hoops scoreboard because you won't find it. For some reason neither team shows this game on their D3hoops schedule. Posted line has the Blue Knights favored by 11 points. That sounds about right. Geneseo wins 72-60.

Buffalo State at Potsdam State

Bears chance for a win this weekend fell by the wayside last night when they couldn't get it done against Fredonia. Today's task is next to impossible. Bengals firing on all cylinders as they make another late season push for an NCAA bid. Pointspread is listed at 16 in favor of Buffalo but I'll be surprised if the Bears can keep it that close. Bengals Jake Simmons still on fire, Justin Mitchell getting back into pre-injury form. I think they'll both be on the bench with about 8 minutes left in the game, as Coach Ansari calls off the dogs tigers. Buffalo State 88 Potsdam 58.

Oswego State at Cortland State

Red Dragons hope to make amends for the one that got away against the Lakers 2 weeks ago. Pointspread has the Lakers favored by a single point. Don't think Oswego will need a miracle comeback this time but do expect a close game. Lakers streak continues as they defeat Cortland 73-70.

Fredonia State at Plattsburgh State

Plattsburgh with a chance to take over sole possession of 7th place with a win here and a New Paltz loss today at Brockport. Blue Devils record in Memorial Hall the past 8 years is pretty dismal. I'm hoping that continues to be the case. Oddsmakers have installed Fredonia as a 2 point favorite, but this is a must win for the Cardinals and I think they get it done today. Cardinals 63 Fredonia 59.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 04:40:30 PM

Oswego shoots lights out for 48-33 lead at half at Cortland. Lakers 15x26fg, 8x11 3s, 11x11ft. C. Burridge 14 pts, R. Sheridan 10 pts. Corts 13x37fg, 4x8 3s

Geneseo 28, Oneonta 27 at the break despite OSt shooting nearly 50 percent from the field. Gens with 12 more shots
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 04:44:07 PM

Brockport getting the better of New Paltz 43-32 at the half. K. Green 12 pts, L. Legister 11 pts for the Brocks, M. Devine 16 pts for NP
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 04:51:04 PM

Buffalo State with its hands full of Bears, leads Potsdam 45-41 at the half. Pdam alive despite BS shooting 17x27 from the field. Bears 10x15 from the line. R. Duquette 12 pts for Potsdam, J. Simmons 10 for BS

Plattsburgh and Frednia 11-11 with 7:40 left in the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 05:04:32 PM

Plattsburgh and Fredonia in real barnburner ..........Cards 21, Freds 20 through 20 minutes. Pburgh 8x24fg, Devils 7x18fg

Oswego in charge at Cortland 58-37 after RDragons within 10 early in second half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 05:15:56 PM

Oswego shooting even better in the second half, leads Cortland 75-42 with 10' left. Lakers 26 hoops in 42 throws, 10x14 beyond the arc

Buffalo State 52, Potsdam 51 at 16' mark

Geneseo by four in late stages vs. Oneonta

Brockport comfortably over New Paltz
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 04, 2012, 05:38:27 PM
Potsdam leads Buff State 75-71 with 5:39 to go, Bears have the ball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 05:40:16 PM
Potsdam with 70-65 lead over Buffalo State with 9' left

Oswego crushes Cortland 84-65 as six Lakers hit double figures led by C. Burridge 18 pts(6x11fg), 6 rebs. H. Ward 12 pts, 11 rebs; S. Michele 12 pts(4x5 3s), 5 assts; C. Monaghan 11 pts;R. Sheridan 10 pts; C. Gilkes 10 pts. OSt 29x56fg, 11x18 3s, leads by as many as 33 at Cortland. RDragons 24x69fg, 8x18 3s. B. Manning 11 pts

Geneseo sinks Oneonta 67-57. Final score the widest separation. Gens R. Riefenhauser 15 pts(6x7fg), 6 rebs; C. Fedge 13 pts, 7 rebs; M. Curry 12 pts, 4 rebs; Mike Hoy 11 pts. Gens with 36-25 board advantage. Oneonta's N. Sarchioto 21 pts(9x12fg, 4pf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 05:47:26 PM

Last look in had Buffalo St. up by a point

Brockport takes out New Paltz 94-78. K. Green 25 pts(9x15fg), 10 rebs; J. Ivy 14 pts, 5 rebs; L. Legister 18 pts(8x12ft); S. Sisson 12 pts. Eagles 28x56fg, 6x15 3s, 32x42ft. NP M. Devine 35 pts(12x19fg, 1x5 3s, 10x13ft), 7 rebs, 5pf in 36'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 06:01:32 PM

Last we saw Buffalo State 84, Potsdam 79 in closing seconds. Live stats went down. Potsdam by five in second half. Bengals pulled even and went ahead 76-75 on pair of N. McLean free throws at 4:35. A. Homer with layup at 4:12 but Bear Z. Adams countered to bring Pdam within 78-77. McLean trey at 3:25 opened up four point lead. N. Simmons added a hoop and foul shot by hike margin to seven. J. Mitchell 21 pts(9x14fg), 8 rebs the last we saw. J. Simmons 18 pts(7x18fg, 4x8 3s), 7 rebs; McLean 14 pts. R. Duquette a huge Bear force with 24 pts(10x14fg). Again, the last we saw ....

And Plattsburgh with a slim edge on Fredonia heading for the wire
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 06:04:10 PM

Final: Buffalo St. 88, Potsdam 79

With 2:48 left .....Plattsburgh 54, Fredonia 52
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2012, 06:27:51 PM

Who new?? It twas a barnburner .............Fredonia edges Plattsburgh 63-60.  Tight throughout with the Burgh have it just a bit better and by six in the final period. L. Smith comes up big at the stripe for the Freds. Ties it from the line at 52 at 3:15 left. J. Perez bucket gives Cards the lead. Smith two FTs get 56-55 reversal. Squared at 57 on S. Fields hoop at 1:05. A. Billups triple boosts Fredonia int 60-57 lead at 0:39 and a FT hikes the margin to four. J. Bruno trey lifts Cards spirits at 0:13. But Smith FTs at 0:08 make it a three point game. Fields misses tying attempt in closing ticks.
J. Bryant 25 pts(13x18ft, 6x8fg) for Devils. Smith 14 pts. J. Perez 14 pts for Pburgh; Bruno 10 pts. Am sure Magic will check in ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 04, 2012, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 04, 2012, 06:04:10 PM

Final: Buffalo St. 88, Potsdam 79

Tougher win than expected today. Potsdam brought it for sure. Big difference for BSC was turnovers. 14 in the  first half and only 3 in the 22nd half. Senior Day at Potsdam is 1 day visitors should avoind at all costs. Toughest 4-17 in D3 if you ask me.

Justin Mitchell finally is beginning to look like the Justin of old. 23 points, 9 boards and 3 blocks! Jake Simmons was...well Jake Simmons. 45 points for the weekend - 20 today. 16 of 31  from the field (with a 11 of 19 from the beyond the arc0 weekend to boot!

Highlight of the weekend for me was hanging with magicman (the undisputed ALL SUNYAC host) Friday and then finally meeting Bear Fan Saturday (he's alright magicman..trust me). I gotta have Bear Fan burn some c.d's for me. He knows good music!!

Next weekend Geneseo and Brockport at home. Those 2 teams represent the lowest weekend, in over a year, for my beloved BENGALS. My hope is that next weekend the BENGALS can right some wrongs!

17-3 record, 2nd place in the Yac and the first NCAA rankings are coming out WEDS. I LOVE this time of year! :D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2012, 08:27:19 PM
jdex was right, it was a barnburner in Memorial Hall as neither team had much of an advantage throughout the entire game. Typical Fredonia contest, always working the shot clock and pounding the ball inside. Teams struggled from the field in the 1st half and combined on a 1x12 effort from beyond the arc with Cards Josh Bruno hitting the only long ball. Fred's Julius Bryant was a load inside all game long. Had 4 of Blue Devils 7 1st half field goals. At one point in the 2nd period when score was tied at 34, Bryant had half of Fredonia's point total. Zebras kept their whistles in their pockets during 1st half only calling 14 total fouls. More than made up for it in the 2nd when it seemed the whistles were never ending. 33 total fouls in 2nd period along with numerous violations that created a very uneven flow in the entire period. Largest lead of the first half was Cards by 6 at 19-13 with 4:15 to go. A Bryant hoop and harm followed by a Bruno layup left the Cards in front 21-16 with 3:26 left but Card's wouldn't score again and Bryant got 2 inside buckets to make it a 21-20 Card edge at the break.

Blue Devils would grab their 1st lead of the game on a 3 pointer by Amir Billups shortly after the start of the 2nd half. 3 ties and another lead change would follow, when tied at 32, Plattsburgh would slowly build a 6 point advantage at 45-39 with 7:40 remaining. The largest lead of the game came shortly after when Shamoy McIntosh buried a triple, to make it 49-42. Fredonia's Jon Herrera,would counter with a 3 ball of his own and Fred's made 3 trips to the line in the next 37 seconds hitting 6 of 8 from the stripe to tie it back up at 50 apiece with 4:22 left. Another visit to the line by Bryant gave them the lead at 51-50 but John Perez made two free throws for the Cards to regain the lead. Free throw parade would continue..Fred's Leonard Smith 1 of 2, Perez again, 1 of 2, Card's Shavar Fields, 1 of 2, an actual honest to goodness field goal by Fred's Dalton Kashmer, Smith again 2 of 2, Bryant again 1 0f 2 and the score stood at 57-55 in favor of the Blue Devils with 1:24 to go. Card's Field's connected for the equalizer, but Amir Billups comes down and buries a three for the biggest bucket of the game with 39 ticks left. Card's miss a threeball and foul Bryant who makes 1 of 2 with 22 seconds remaining and Josh Bruno nails a three to make it a 1 point game with 10 seconds left. Card's foul Smith who calmly makes both shots and Field's three point attempt for overtime comes up short. Final score 63-60. I had predicted a 63-59 final. Just got it backwards. :P

Once again the Card's let one slip away and this one could be costly as they wind up their conference schedule with 4 straight road games. The loss today pretty much relagates them to a 7th or 8th place finish in the standings and that's not even a certainty as a loss next Friday at Potsdam could give the Bears some hope. Potsdam needs to win 3 of their final 4 games and hope the Cards go 0-4. If that happens then the Bears would win a tiebreaker over the Cards if Geneseo finishes higher than Brockport does in the standings.

Julius Bryant was too much for the Card's to handle this afternoon as he finished with 25 points. Amir Billups with 13 points and some timely 3 pointers, none bigger than his last one. Leonard Smith with 14 points, was huge at the stripe going px10.

Plattsburgh's John Perez with another solid outing with 14 points. Stat sheet shows him with 5 rebounds but I think they missed a few as I had him down for 9. Senior Josh Bruno came off the bench and had a fine all around game on Senior Night, with 10 points (4x6 fg, 2x3 3's), 4 rebounds, an assist, and a steal in 17 minutes of action.

Fredonia improves to 12-7 overall and 7-6 in the conference. They remain tied with Brockport in 5th place, a game behind Geneseo. The Blue Devils can improve their lot considerably next weekend when they host Brockport on Friday night and Geneseo the next afternoon.

Plattsburgh falls to 7-14 overall and 5-9 in the Yac. They are off until next Friday when they travel to Potsdam for a chance to clinch a playoff berth.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2012, 10:45:58 PM
I didn't get a chance to comment about yesterday's Buffalo State-Plattsburgh game but it's never too late, so here goes.

I was invited to the Buffalo State shoot around Friday afternoon by Bengalsrule and got a chance to meet the coaching staff and some of the Bengal players. Head Coach Ansari and assistant coaches, Kevin Glover and Arthur Eve are 3 of the nicest people I've had the pleasure to meet in D3 circles. We had a fun conversation at their hotel after the game discussing YAC basketball past and present, among other things. I did manage to keep them up quite late (especially the assistants) and I figure that's why the Bears almost pulled off the upset this afternoon. ;D I also met Jake Simmons and Justin Mitchell who were fantasy players of mine in last year's D3 hoops NCAA fantasy league. Jake was my secret pick as I didn't think anyone would draft him in the early rounds and I was correct in that assumption. He was the 33rd player selected and no one that only played in 3 games had more fantasy points than Jake (total of 91). He ended up the 13th overall best pick, and if they could have gotten by St Mary's and into the Great 8 he would have probably ended up in the top 5. Justin was close behind him with a fantasy total of 86 points, and he wasn't even drafted but ended up being selected by me, as a free agent pick. So it was a pleasure meeting the two players who gave me so much pleasure with their great play last year in the NCAA tournament. I ended up in 2nd place overall (missing the title by a mere 10 points). Both young men were great to talk to yesterday, and I look forward to meeting them, and the coaches, again next year when they return to the Burgh for their annual visit. 8-)

As for the game, well it wasn't what I hoped for. I had no illusions about my young Cardinals winning this game, I just wanted it to be a better contest than the one that took place in Buffalo a couple of weeks ago. And for 20 minutes I got my wish. The Cardinals came out and after a few minutes gained a lead that they would hold throughout much of the 1st half. Down 7-6 with 4 minutes gone by in the period, the Cardinals led by Reggie Wiilliams and John Perez went on a 12-4 run that gave them their largest lead of the game at 19-11, necessitating a Bengal timeout. Buff State increased the defensive intensity and chipped away at the lead eventually drawing even at 24 apiece with 5:35 remaining. Two Ant Hammer free throws followed by Jake Simmons' first points of the game, a 3 pointer (what else) gave the Bengals a 29-24 lead with 4:02 left. Plattsburgh closed to 29-27 but Jake buried another three to bring it back up to 5. Josh Bruno countered with a triple for the Cards but Jake hit another one, but this one only worth 2 points. After a resounding breakaway dunk by the Card's Shavar Fields with 39 seconds left, Buff State's Justin Mitchell snuck one in at the buzzer to give the Bengals a 36-32 haltime edge.

I don't know what was said in the Buffalo state locker room at halftime but whatever Coach Ansari told his troops certainly worked as the Bengals came out in the 2nd half and just tore into the Cards with a vengeance. Rodney Epps started things off with a 3 pointer, and the Cards promptly turned the ball over. Jake Simmons hit another 3 pointer 10 seconds later. Cards did an instant replay and turned it over again, so 13 seconds later Jake did an instant replay and buried another three pointer again. Just like that the game had it's first double digit lead at 45-32 with only 1 minute and 5 seconds gone in the period. Reggie Williams and Shavar Fields hit back to back buckets for the Cards to get it back to single digits but Jake swished another 3 and the lead was back to 12. Four straight points by Plattsburgh's John Perez cut it to 8, but another 10-2 Bengal spurt fueled by 2 more triples by Epps and Jake gave Buff State a 56-40 lead that would only get bigger as the period wore on. The lead grew to 38 points at 88-50 with 7:20 remaining and at that point the Bengal coaching staff emptied the bench and cruised to a 92-74 victory.

Once again Jake Simmons proved to be a Cardinal killer with a game high 25 points. In 2 games against Plattsburgh this year he's scored 62 points and sat out the final portion of both games. He only played 27 minutes in each game and could have probably set a SUNYAC single game record for three pointers in either game had the coach left him in for that reason. He did tie the record of nine 3 's in a game two weeks ago against Plattsburgh before taking a seat with 8 minutes left in the game. It's refreshing to see a coach, who, unlike others in D3 that leave their players in to set scoring records against inferior competion, (can you say Grinnell), that looks at the overall health and welfare of the player and the team. Why risk injury to the player, which would then hurt the team's tournament possibilities, in a game whose outcome has already been decided. Simmons ended up shooting 9x13 from the field with 7 of 11 shots coming from long distance. Several of those 3 pointers were off balance shots with guys right on top of him and they were nothing but net. Three other Bengals had double figures. Rod Epps came off the bench to score 11 points (4x8 fg, 3x6 3's) while Justin Mitchell and Ahmed Nagaya both had 10 points. After shooting only 12 for 31 in the first half the Bengals went 19 for 34 in the 2nd period. They ended up 12x22 from long distance and were 18 for 24 from the line.

Cards were led by Shavar Fields with 17 points (8x12 fg, 1x3 ft). Junghoon Roh, had 11 and Shamoy McIntosh added 10 points with 5 assists. John Perez had 11 points and led the Cards with 6 rebounds. He also added 3 assists and 3 steals. Cardinal had a decent night shooting as they went 28x57 from the field. They were just 7x19 from long distance but fired up many of those ion an attempt to close the large gap. They were 11x15 from the line. They did win the battle of the boards 29 to 27, but the turnovers hurt them as they committed 25 to only 16 for Buff State.                   
         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2012, 10:54:49 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 03, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
Magic - I think you posted the ladies score, but men's score not any better, Potsdam 69 Fredonia 73.

Sorry I will miss Bengals tomorrow, as my leg has me basically flat on my back most of the time.

Bear,
Sorry to hear that the leg still continues to be a problem. I hope that it improves considerably over the next week so that we can get together at the Bears-Cards game. If not I make have to make a house call to check up on you. ;D Is Ted Bence staying with you this weekend while attending the alumni game? Thought I might hear from him as he promised to swing by on his way back home tomorrow. Bears with a valiant effort today. Certainly better than my Cards did yesterday. Bengals are just too tough this year. (And probably next year as well). Get better soon. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on February 06, 2012, 01:53:03 PM
Thanks for the visit Bengals... glad you were able to appreciate the musical selections... so happy some of the old stuff is coming back! Very happy to see the Bears give your team a game they could both learn and mature from.  I think Buff State is deeper than Oswego and, man for man, more talented....but you've been telling us that all year which is why I rarely post because you, magic, jdex and the bear have it covered!  Looking forward to meeting magic this weekend... as a PHS grad myself, we have probably run in some of the same circles from time to time, Gary Butler, Mike Flynn, Paul O'Connell, and the bear likes you so that's good enough for me!  BTW... question for magic... what do you like in your chocolate?  might have time to sneak down to the local shop before the game and get you a little gift box...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 poll just released and Oswego State moves up from #22 to #18. Their point total increased from 89 to 163. Nice jump upward for the Lakers.

Buffalo State also increased their point total. After barely getting a mention last week with 2 points, the Bengals got 16 points this week in the Others Receiving Votes category. That would put them in the 36th spot.

NYU continues to get solid support and remains the highest ranked East Region team, as they went from #19 to #16, with a total of 206 points. That's a gain of 60 points over last week.

Hartwick saw an increase in their point total, checking in the ORV category with 33 points. That's good enough to slip into a tie for the #30 spot. The Hawks had 19 points last week.

These are the only east teams receiving points in the poll.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2012, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: Bear Fan on February 06, 2012, 01:53:03 PM
Thanks for the visit Bengals... glad you were able to appreciate the musical selections... so happy some of the old stuff is coming back! Very happy to see the Bears give your team a game they could both learn and mature from.  I think Buff State is deeper than Oswego and, man for man, more talented....but you've been telling us that all year which is why I rarely post because you, magic, jdex and the bear have it covered!  Looking forward to meeting magic this weekend... as a PHS grad myself, we have probably run in some of the same circles from time to time, Gary Butler, Mike Flynn, Paul O'Connell, and the bear likes you so that's good enough for me!  BTW... question for magic... what do you like in your chocolate?  might have time to sneak down to the local shop before the game and get you a little gift box...

Bear Fan,
Bengalsrule rule was still talking about your music the next day. I did tire those guys out Friday night so the Bears could have a chance. Darned if they didn't almost pull off the upset of the year in the YAC.

I've played a few rounds of golf with Flynnie, as 20 to 30 of us played in a weekly Sunday golf tournament for about 4 years running. His younger brother is one of my close friends. Crusher and I played softball together for Goobers back in the mid 70's. We were still pounding the hardwood playing Monday night pick-up games until about 10 years ago. And did you say chocolate. ???  I'm partial to milk chocolate with nuts. 8-) Hope to get over early enough on Friday to take in the women's game as well. Weather forecast looks to be great all week. See you on Friday. Hope to see the Bear as well, but may have to make a house call for that to happen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2012, 07:00:59 AM
Fredonia's Julius Bryant is the SUNYAC PLayer of the Week for the week ending 2-4-12. Watching him score 25 against the Cards on Saturday, after torching Potsdam for 24 the day before, I knew it was a foregone conclusion.
Here's the write up from the YAC website:

MEN'S BASKETBALL – Fredonia

Julius Bryant (Buffalo, NY/Hutch Tech), senior forward

Fredonia senior forward Julius Bryant averaged 24.5 points per game in a 2-0 week for the Blue Devils. He shot 76.2 percent from the floor off 16-of-21 shooting and showed poise at the line, going 17-of-22 (77.3 percent). In addition, he added 5.0 rebounds per game, 2.5 assists per game and 0.5 blocks per game. Bryant kicked off his scoring weekend with a 24-point, six-rebound performance in a 73-69 win over Potsdam. Against Plattsburgh in a 63-60 win on Saturday, he shot 6-of-8 from the floor and knocked down 13-of-18 overall from the line, gathering 25 points. Fredonia improved to 12-7 overall and 7-6 in the SUNYAC winning five of the last six games.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2012, 08:16:43 PM
New Paltz taking on NYU tonight and staying within shouting distance of the Violets. Score is 52-45 in favor of NYU with 8 minutes to play. Matt Devine and Harris Wichard have scored 37 of the Hawks 45 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2012, 08:35:02 PM
Livestats for the New Paltz game froze up with 7:52 to play. Fortunately there was streaming video to watch. NYU opened up an 18 point lead I think, and the Hawks hit some late 3's to make the final 73-61. No  final stats available but I know Devine had at least 23 and Wichard had at least 17.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2012, 07:38:10 PM
NCAA's first week of Regional rankings are out and Oswego is in the number 2 spot. No other YAC  team is listed. Hartwick is number 1.

Here's the East Region: The first record is in-region record, followed by overall record.

East Region
1 Hartwick 19-2 20-2
2 Oswego State 17-2 17-3
3 New York University 17-2 17-2
4 Hobart 15-4 16-4
5 Medaille 19-2 20-2
6 Nazareth 15-5 15-7

The complete regional rankings can be found at this link:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2012/02/08/2012-ncaa-regional-rankings-week-1/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 08, 2012, 11:13:52 PM
 >:( After all the waiting and this is what hits me today. :P Not sure what it takes to get in the top 6 other than keep winning!  17-3 (13-3 in region) just isnt good enough. Hopefully my BENGALS can add some more wins over the next few days.

  With 3 out of region victories against Capital (ranked 6th in Great Lakes), Wesleyan (ranked 9th in Northeast) and giving Catholic U. thier first loss of the season in thier (CUA) holiday tourney Championship game on New Years Day, I have reason to hope!. I'm hopeful that once the NCAA's "primary criteria" has been looked at, then their "secondary criteria" will bode well for Buff State - i.e. Out of region victories, overall strength of schedule and overall D3 winning percentage. That alone gives the BENGALS 3 more quality wins (see Capital, Wesleyan and Catholic above).

Cant wait until Geneseo comes to town friday. I'm hoping that my beloved BENGALS show up at 8p.m. Sharp!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 10, 2012, 02:18:02 AM
Bengals - I too, am mystified why Buff State is not ahead of Naz in the 6th spot?  May try to get over to see tomorrows game but nothing is for certain.  I've worked past midnight 3 days this week already so I've been away from the board a for a few days. Magicman my son is going up North for alumni weekend but I was not able to get it into my schedule.  I can only hope my "knights" make some sort of push in to the postseason and I'll try to see them at that point. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2012, 07:10:37 AM
I'm off to Potsdam early in the morning so I'd better do these prognostications now and get a few hours of sleep. Otherwise I'll be nodding off halfway through the women's game.

Full slate of games tonight as it's moving weekend in the YAC. All games tip off at 8:00 PM

Oswego State at Oneonta State

Oswego makes their last road trip of the regular season before winding up with 3 straight home games. They must have bribed the schedule makers. How else to explain a final road trip against two of the less fortunate teams in the league and then get the upper division teams at Laker Hall for the regular season finales. The Burridge family is happy. The next trip they have to make after this weekend will be for an NCAA game in all probability. Lakers could end up with 6 straight games at home. Three to end the regular season and three in the YAC tournament. Should they win out and get the automatic bid a 25-2 D3 record could find them hosting an opening round pod just like last year. I'd like to have the money Mr. and Mrs. Burridge have spent on food, gas and lodging to see Chad and his brother Mat, before him, play on the road. They've singlehandedly tried to revive the U.S. economy. I'm just sorry they won't be coming back to Plattsburgh next year. But I won't miss Chad. ;D   Lakers trying to extend their regular season winning streak to 28 games and I can't see any reason why they won't. Red Dragons, all but eliminated from playoff contention, are playing for pride, but the Lakers don't want to take this team too lightly.(Can anybody say Cobleskill?)  Oh and one other little thing. The last team to beat Oswego in the regular season just happens to be these Red Dragons back on 1-11-11 by the score of 75-73 in Oneonta. Lakers don't need no deja vu.(Double negative, I know) Oddsmakers have Oswego favored by 15 points. I think it might be more. Lakers 75 Red Dragons 56. 

Geneseo State at Buffalo State

They say revenge is sweet. Tonight the Bengals will try and see just how true that old expression is. If there's one game Buffalo State could have a do over, it would be the last game against the Blue Knights back on Jan. 14th. They lost that game in overtime and a missed Bengal free throw with 5 seconds left in regulation proved to be costly. The overtime period was all Geneseo as the Bengals committed 5 turnovers and 4 fouls in the first three minutes of the extra session and this game was history. Buff State was also without the services of All Conference forward Justin Mitchell for the 2nd straight game and it came on the heels of a loss to Brockport the day before. It knocked the Bengals out of the D3hoops Top 25, put them in a big hole in their hopes to catch Oswego, and even haunted them on Wednesday when they found themselves unfindable in the first set of Regional Ranking released by the NCAA's Regional Advisory Committee. They now have to scratch and claw their way back up the rankings in hopes of acquiring a Pool C bid should they fail to win the conference tournament. And scratch and claw they've done, by reeling off 6 wins in a row since that lost weekend, by a 26 point average margin of victory. Mitchell is back, Jake Simmons has been on fire, and Nico McLean has been stealing people blind. Bengals running like a fine tuned Maserati. Geneseo comes into tonight's contest in sole possession of 4th place and the Blue Knights can still finish as high as 2nd place. Should they finish tied with Cortland for third place, that earlier win over the Bengals would probably give them the tiebreaker edge. Pointspread has the Bengals favored by 13 and if the Blue Knights play as good as they did the last time against Buff State then that's what they'll lose by. The two teams were tied at the end of regulation, with no Justin Mitchell for the Bengals. With Justin and his almost 13 ppg I see Buffalo State winning this one 85-72.

Cortland State at New Paltz State

These Red Dragons after hanging near the top spot most of the season now find themselves in third place a game behind the Bengals. They need to win this weekend on the road, against the lower echelon teams, to set up a showdown with Buffalo State in their final regular season game. In between they have Brockport and Fredonia coming to town and those two aren't about to roll over and die. With 4 losses they aren't going to catch Oswego, but they have to guard against falling behind Geneseo and Fredonia or Brockport. New Paltz has hopes of moving up the ladder to avoid a first round matchup against the Lakers or Bengals. Somehow I  don't think they'll get their wish. Posted odds have the Red Dragons favored by 7 points which would be a heck of a lot closer than the 27 point whipping the Hawks received in Cortland. I think it will be closer but Cortland still comes away with the win, 75-65.

Brockport State at Fredonia State

Brockport still has hopes of salvaging what has been a disappointing season. Coach Dunne has been known to work a few miracles before so you can never count out the Golden Eagles. Three years ago they limped into the playoffs with the 8th and final seed. Three games later they were dancing with the YAC's automatic bid. Last year they went 6-3 down the stretch to finish in 4th place and then handed the Lakers a loss in the semifinals of the tournament. The top two spots are out of reach but they could still finish in the upper division and host a first round game. They handled the Blue Devils the first time around and even though the oddsmakers have made Fredonia a slim 1 point favorite, I think the Golden Eagles will get the job done again. I like Brockport to win this one 72-66

Plattsburgh State at Potsdam State

Potsdam looking to avenge an earlier loss to the Cardinals in the Burgh. That game was a seesaw affair that found the Bears with the lead and 10 minutes left in the game. The Cards went on a 10-0 run however and the closest Potsdam could get after that was 4 points. Plattsburgh slowly pulled away in the final 6 minutes. Bear's Curtis Pierce injured his knee and had to leave the game for good with 9:33 left to play, which coincided with the Bear's downturn. A healthy Pierce tonight could pose problems for a Cardinal team that's struggled on the road, going 2-9 in their travels. With a win tonight Plattsburgh would clinch a playoff spot and with this young team that was their first goal. Bears in a must win situation to keep their playoff hopes alive. Pointspread has the Cardinals favored by 3 and that's about how I see it. Cards win a close one in Maxcy Hall tonight, 65-61.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2012, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2012, 07:10:37 AM
I'm off to Potsdam early in the morning so I'd better do these prognostications now and get a few hours of sleep. Otherwise I'll be nodding off halfway through the women's game.

Drive safe and tell Bear Fan "hello" for me! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2012, 08:46:13 PM

At the half ....

Buffalo St. 42, Geneseo 33. J. Mitchell 10 reb, J. Simmons 9 pts for BS

Cortland 37, New Paltz 25. Corts K. McMahon off sideline for 10 pts. Dragons 5x10 3s

Oswego 33, Oneonta 18. Lakers 13x27fg, Ot 7x23fg

Potsdam 29, Plattsburgh 23
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2012, 09:23:10 PM

Geneseo's at it again .........held 10 pt. lead over Buffalo St. at 5' mark .....

Cortland by 11 at New Paltz late

Oswego about to dismiss Oneonta

Plattsburgh by 5 heading down the stretch at Potsdam
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2012, 09:31:27 PM
Bears with a huge surge, now up 59-50 and at the line with 2:48 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
Bears now lead 61-50
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2012, 09:34:24 PM
Cards now in hack-a-derby mode with 2:08 left, please bears, make your FT's

63-50 Bears

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2012, 09:37:27 PM
Bears 65-52 with 1:14 & THE BALL.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2012, 09:40:01 PM
Final Potsdam 67- Cards 54.

Go Bears
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2012, 09:48:59 PM

Geneseo eludes Buffalo St. 84-82. Nearly gets away. Ten point lead shrinks to 81-80 at 0:50 on one of two J. Mitchell FTs. Gens C Fedge FTs at 0:26 make it 83-80 and his 1x2 at the line hikes to four at 0:15. Bengal A. Nagaya tip-in at 0:02 narrows it. Gens miss two free throws a second later. BS timeout .......but nothing further. R. Riefenhauser 24 pts, 13 rebs for winners. Mitchell 21 pts, 16 rebs

Cortland betters New Paltz 69-60. J. Smith 17 pts, B. Manning 14 ptss; K. McMahon 12 pts; H. Hefele 11 pts. S. Jenkins and M. Devine split 36 NP markers, Devine with 11 rebs

Oswego takes down Oneonta 68-55 in a brezze
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2012, 09:51:56 PM
Tough loss for the Bengals..

Really means they have to win the 'yac tournament to get to the dance.

As dad of a Geneseo alum, go Knights, but tough night for the Black and orange.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2012, 09:59:29 PM

Brockport 79, Fredonia 60

Geneseo goes 24x37 from the stripe to Buff St's 9x16. Gens 29x58fg, BS 34x70. Riefenhauser also dishes 6 assists. Mike Hoy 18 pts, 5 assts; G. Lyons 14 pts, 8 rebs; C. Fedge 10 pts, 8 rebs. Mitchell goes 9x10fg, 4pf; J. Simmons 14 pts(5x14fg); A. Nagaya 14 pts; N. McLean 11 pts; N. Simmons 6 assts, 7 pts. Gens with 40-39 board edge

Oswego's H. Ward 13 pts; J. Delfino 12 pts; K. Monaghan  12 pts; C. Burridge 10 pts in Laker high 28' of court time. OSt 22x51fg, Oneonta 22x56fg. Dragon F. Kelly 12 pts, D. Lee 11 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2012, 10:02:17 PM

Hey, TB, as another dad of a Knights grad we join the chorus .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2012, 10:04:35 PM
My son graduated in '00, works in times square in advertising for Broadway.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2012, 10:22:08 PM

No. 2 daughter a late '90s product and is a CPA in NYC ..........how nice!

And how swell are da Bears tonight. Seemed to be in rough waters in the second half .......trailing 50-45 at 6:57. At 6:39 C. Pierce begins the hunt with a 3-pter. R. Duquette hoop squares it at 6:08 and Pierce FTs at 5:24 complete the reversal. S. Schwartz lands a triple, Pierce a layuyp and J. Lambert a hoop. An 18-0 run is ended at 1:57. How nice (for da Bears)! What a turnaround. Pierce 19 pts(7x15fg), 9 rebs, 3 stls; Lambert 17 pts(5x6fg), 6 assts; Duquette 10 pts. Pdam 23x48fg, 6x15 3s, 15x19ft. Burgh's S. Fields 19 pts(8x13fg); J. Perez 10 pts. Cards 19x50fg, 3x19 3s; 13x16ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2012, 10:45:08 PM

Brockport by 34-33 at the half but yields to Fredonia second period opening bucket. Two ties ensue. Bucket gives Eagles 46-43 edge at 15:35. Freds don't score again until 57-43 hole at 12:17. Gap grows to 70-45 at 7:45. Bport's K. Green 19 pts, 12 rebs; G. Williams 16 pts; J. Ivy 12 pts, 3 stls; L. Legister 11 pts; D. Klein 6 assts. Eagles 26x55fg, 24x36ft. Devils D. Goodwin 13 pts(6x9fg); L. Smith 11 pts; J. Herrera 11 pts. Fredonia 22x49fg, 11x20ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 11, 2012, 01:30:19 AM
Back from the Bengals- Gen Knights game.  Very costly loss for the Bengals who on "paper" should have definitely won this game.  Just went stone cold at the start of the second half while the knights did a lot going to the hole hard and back door cuts for easy buckets.  See man ball.... if you don't it is a layup for the other team.  Riefenhauser was spectacular doing spin moves to the hoop and Hoy played very well also. Thought that the freshman Lyons looked good as well.  Bengals just had an off night shooting against a good team and ran out of time.  Another 30 seconds and they might have been able to pull it out.  Refs did not do the Bengals any favors on their home court either.  Couple of very late "bail out" calls very late in the game probably helped decide the game but if the Bengals had just shot at a tolerable level in the beginning of the second half it would not have mattered.  You just can't let good teams hang around and then decide you are going to "turn it on in the last 2 minutes and win".  9 point lead at the half with momemtum just faded fast in the second half.  I almost hope that the Bengals can put it together and win the YAC tournament because they are so athletic they could do some damage in the NCAA tournament if they get the chance. Lakers are a lock anyway so I'd like to have a few more Eastern teams in there and none of the leagues have a chance at two teams going except the YAC should Lakers not win the league tournament.  Must say I meant Bengals in person and he is a gentlemen. Hope he is not "mad at me for bringing bad luck."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 11, 2012, 08:33:25 AM
Finally a W. Yeah!!!!!   Now we need to finish the season with 3 more solid wins and use it to build for next year!!  Go Bears
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 04:07:36 PM
Four games on tap in the League today all with 4:00 PM starting times.

Oswego at New Paltz

Lakers like old man river and just keep rolling along. Trying for their 29th straight regular season win. I think you have to go back to the great Potsdam teams of the 80's to match a streak of this length. New Paltz caught a break with Plattsburgh's loss to the Bears last night in a game that looked, on paper, to be one for the Cardinal's win column. Looks like the game against the Cardinals, in New Paltz on Valentine's day, will finalize those teams seeding for the tournament. Hope the Hawks will show the Cards a whole lotta love then. As for today's contest it should be another long afternoon for New Paltz. Oswego is favored to win by 11 points and the Hawks will be hard pressed to keep it that close. I think the Lakers take this one 81-67.

Cortland at Oneonta

Red Dragons vs Red Dragons. I think I'll go with the Cortland variety as they are clearly the hotter of the two species. Oddsmakers favor Cortland by 10 points and I don't think it will be any closer. Cortland 78 Oneonta 63.

Geneseo at Fredonia

Blue on Blue, Bobby Vinton would be pleased.  Blue Knights with a big win last night over Buff State. Can't afford a letdown today against the Blue Devils, a team that stole one back in January on a zebra's whistle with just tenths of a second left on the clock. With 3 out of 4 wins against Buffalo State and Cortland, the Blue Knights will own the tiebreaker aginst Brockport and Fredonia unless the Blue Devils get real lucky next weekend. Oddsmakers have made Fredonia a 4 point favorite but I like Geneseo to gain a measure of revenge. I think the Blue Knights come out of this one less BLUE than the Blue Devils. Geneseo 64 Fredonia 60.

Brockport at Buffalo State

Bengals with a slip last night that could prove costly come Selection Day. Unless some of the East teams falter badly over the next 2 weeks, Buffalo State may have to repeat their SUNYAC tournament success of last year. Revenge didn't work last night against Geneseo, so maybe it will today against the Eagles. Brockport handled the Bengals back in January without Justin Mitchell by 24 points. Today the Eagles are 7 point underdogs. I'm going with the Bengals 88-81 in this one.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 04:22:07 PM
Bear or jdex,

Can either of you pull in the streaming video feed on the Buffalo State-Brockport game. I've had trouble with Buffalo State videos all year long. I can get everyone else's feed but never the one coming from Buff State. Once in a while i can get it but it's extremely spotty. Just wondering if it's only me or if it's that way for everyone. Thanks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 04:40:01 PM
Oswego 41 New Paltz 29 at halftime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 04:41:52 PM
Fredonia 30 Geneseo 19 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 04:42:53 PM
Cortland 34 Oneonta 22 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 04:43:39 PM
Brockport 35 Buffalo State 30 at halftime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 11, 2012, 04:44:49 PM
Magic

No luck here, and I have high speed cable.

P.S.  No Justin Mitchell for Bengals

Port lead by 5 at Half

P.S.  If Bears wind up tied at 5-13 with Cards, Bears win over Geneseo gives them TB

If they wind up at 6-12, then Cards must beat Geneseo to neutralize TB.

Cards need two wins (or two bear losses) to clinch the playoff spot

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2012, 05:25:56 PM

Magic, just got in  .......no luck on video ....actually picked up audio off BS athletics video feed ...... very fuzzy audio there, no pix
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 05:38:36 PM
Oswego defeats New Paltz 92-68.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 11, 2012, 05:47:29 PM

Cortland blasts Oneonta 73-51, shooting 26x46 from the field and hitting half of 22 3s. J. Smith 22 pts(9x12fg, 4x6 3s); B. Manning 17 pts(5x8fg, 5x7 3s) in 25' after 14 pts, 10 rebs previous night at NP; K. McMahon 11 pts(4x6fg). J. Winter scoreless in 17' with 3 assts. Usually central figure in CSt offense didn't have many numbers at NP either. For OSt F. Lee 11 pts. Team 16x46fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 05:52:44 PM
Cortland over Oneonta 73-51

Fredonia over Geneseo 62-50
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 05:53:23 PM
Brockport downs Buffalo State 79-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 06:33:06 PM
Bear and jdex. Thanks for letting me know about the Buffalo State video feed. I've thought for some time that they are having problems and relayed that information to Bengalsrule, who in turn had alerted the staffers doing the video. All to no avail I guess.

Bear, sorry I missed you yesterday. You would have been proud of your (our) Bears as they turned a 7 point deficit 45-38 into a 50-50 tie over a 4 minute stretch. And they didn't stop there as they reeled off 13 more unanswered points to grab a 63-50 lead. Cards went colder than a Coors Light. Pierce, Lambert, Schwartz, and Adams all had an excellent game for Potsdam. I still think the Bears are up against it and will come in ninth place. Hope your leg heals up and we'll get a chance to visit in Glens Falls at the Hall of Fame brunch on Sunday March 18th. Did you order your tickets yet? I expect mine will arrive in Monday's mail. We've got at least 6 guys that I know of going down.  And did Bence show up last weekend?

Met Bearfan yesterday and got to listen to that booming voice as he announces a fine game. Good music during the breaks and got some good chocolate candy for my ride back to the Burgh. Thanks again Bearfan. 8-)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 11, 2012, 07:50:16 PM
When I knew I was immobile, I called Teddy Bear and he made other plans.

I'm pretty sure Coach W is going to try to make the HOF.

I have to get my wife's spring break travel plans done, then I can order my tix for the HOF.  Got info from Merna the other day.

Glad you connected with Bearfan, he's one of the highlights of our home games win or lose.

Last night may have been addition by subtraction as first three guys usually off the Potsdam bench were late scratches by the coach.
Most nights this year, Bears are on the wrong end of runs like that, but was pleased to see the guys string 18 straight.

Pierce is a warrior, been playing hurt all year, but still brings it hard every night, classic tweener who lands in D-III.  Very high character person.

Tough losses today for Bengals and Geneseo.  Bengals have to win the 'yac tournament to get a bid after that loss.  If Mitchell injury is season ending, they will have big matchup troubles against Oswego.

I'm still hoping Bears put together a streak, and force Cards to win a road game.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2012, 09:52:01 PM
Oswego 92 New Paltz 68

New Paltz jumped out to early 5 point leads at 7-2 and 9-4 but after that it was all Lakers. Oswego fueled by, well, the entire team just about, as 7 different players scored over the next 7+ minutes to run off to a 27-15 advantage with 9:34 left in the period. They coasted into the break up 41-29. Chad Burridge opened the 2nd half with 4 straight points followed by Hayden Ward with 13 straight points for Oswego, and then a dunk by Burridge and in the blink of an eye (well actually about 5 minutes) it was 60-33. The last 15 minutes of the game was basically stat padding time. The closest the Hawks got after that was 20 points.

Lakers placed 5 guys in double figures led by Hayden Ward with 20 points (7x10 fg, 3x4 3's, 3x3 ft) and 6 rebounds. Sean Michele was next with 15 points (5x7 3's), and 9 assists, followed by Chad Burridge with 13 points (4x6 fg, 5x7 ft) and 8 rebounds. Alex Mirabito had 11 points on perfect shooting (4x4 fg, 3x3 ft) and Josh Delfino had 10 points in 12 minutes (4x7 fg, 2x3 ft). Lakers were 33x54 from the field (61.1%), 13x20 from 3 point range (65%) and 13x21 (61.9%) from the line. Maybe they should shoot their free throws from beyond the arc. They had 31 rebounds to 25 for the Hawks and both teams committed 10 turnovers.

New Paltz was led by Harris Wichard with 25 points (6x13 fg, 3x7 3's, 10x11 ft). He also had 10 rebounds. Matt Devine had 12 points ( 4x13 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x4 ft)and 11 rebounds, while Jamal Lis-Simmons added 10 points (4x8 fg, 2x5 3's). Hawks shot 22x55 (40%) fg, 9x25 3,s (36.0%) and 15x17 from the line (88.2%)

Oswego wins their 29th straight regular season game to improve to 19-3 overall, 19-2 in D3, and 15-0 in the YAC. Three tough games next week with Geneseo, Buff State and Fredonia coming to Laker Hall in that order, starting on Tuesday.

New Paltz falls to 8-15 overall and 5-11 in the YAC and for the moment occupies the 8th and final playoff spot a half game behind Plattsburgh.. That placement will probably be determind when New Paltz takes on Plattsburgh at Hawk Center this Tuesday. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2012, 12:18:39 PM

Brockport by 10 in first half prior to Buffalo St. response to take one point lead. Port answers for halftime lead and holds serve the rest of the way but never by more than nine points. BS within deuce before G. Williams triple rights Eagles. Williams with 19 pts(7x12fg, 3x6 3s), 5pf in 24'; D. Jackson 17 pts(6x11fg), 10 rebs; K. Green 15 pts, 6 rebs. Bport 24x60fg, 27x35ft. Bengals get 16 pts(5x12fg) from N. McLean and 16 from J. Simmons(4x13fg) -- all in the second half; and 10 pts from E. Epps. BS 22x69fg, 24x29ft

Fredonia doesn't disappoint on Senior Day vs. Geneseo. Freds finish opening period with 9-0 run and start second half the same way to take one-sided control. Chasing Gens close to 54-46 at 1:30 but Devils finish 8x8 at the stripe. Sr. J. Bryant 10 pts, 11 rebs, 5 blcks, 3 stls in victory; L. Smith 19 pts, 6 rebs; J. Herrera 13 pts(3x8 3s); D. Goodwin 12 pts. Fredonia 19x53fg, 5x26 3s, 19x21ft. Ten Knights score, none more than 7 pts. apiece from Mike Hoy, E. Estabrooks, A. Miller. Gens post just 2 ...that's t-w-o assts. Eye 17x56fg, 3x16 3s, 13x19ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2012, 09:48:25 PM
"Oh the PAIN...the PAIN"....to quote Dr. Smith from the 60's hit series Lost in Space. (I have no doubt that magicman and Bear fan remember that show!! :) )

Geneseo/Brockport. Just can't get pass them 2 darn teams. 80% of my beloved BENGALS loses at their hands! Gotta get focused quick. 3 road games in 5 days (Fredonia, Oswego and Cortland). Fredonia is a must win if we hope to have any chance at a home playoff game. Not to mention needing Oswego to beat Geneseo and/or Cortland to beat Brockport and then my BENGALS beat Cortland on Saturday! Basically at this point...gotta run the table!

I'm encouraged when remnded that at this point last season (with 3 YAC games left) the BENGALS were 15-5 and didnt lose another game for almost 4 weeks (Sweet 16 loss to St. Marys). Need a similar run now.

In the words of Jian Paul Gonzalez...Its time for my beloved BENGALS to go "ALL IN"!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 12, 2012, 11:31:52 PM
"Danger danger Will Robinson!"    The Bengals have everyone right where they want them!!  Just go ahead and count them out and you'll be flat on your back trying to get the license plate of that truck!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 04:54:53 AM
New Top 25 poll is out and Oswego State moves up to #16 which is their highest placement of the year. The Lakers received 229 points which is a gain of 66 points over last week.

Buffalo State as expected received no mention in the poll after suffering a pair of weekend losses.

Hartwick moved into the Top 25 for the first time this year checking in at the #25 spot with 50 points.

NYU tumbled from their highest placement of the year at #16 in last week's poll all the way down to the ORV category. The Violets lost 186 points after dropping a pair of games over the weekend.They now have 20 points and are in the #30 spot.

Hobart was the only other East region school with a mention and that was barely audible as they received 1 point. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 06:11:14 PM
Full slate of games scheduled for tonight with some key matchups that could lock in several seeds.

Potsdam State at Oneonta State     6:00 PM

The Bears hope to keep their slim playoff hopes alive. The Red Dragons are just playing for pride. Potsdam needs to win at least 2 of their final three games and hope that Plattsburgh or New Paltz goes winless. That would guarentee them a playoff berth. They could still tie either of those teams and win a possible tiebreaker, depending on the order of finish of the teams in 3rd through 6th positions. First things first though, and that is the game at hand. They managed to beat Oneonta in Potsdam, but it wasn't by a margin that inspires confidence in them getting the job done, tonight in Oneonta. Oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a slim 2 point favorite due to home court advantage and I agree this game should be close. I'd love to go with the Bears here but this team has only won 1 game on an opponents court all year and that came in their season opener. If I thought Potsdam could play like they did against Plattsburgh last Friday, I'd be all over the Bears. This is probably Oneonta's last chance to win their 3rd game of the year and they'll be playing like it's the playoffs. Red Dragons squeak one out, 63-60.

Plattsburgh State at New Paltz            6:00 PM

This game, in all probability will determine the 7th and 8th place teams in the league. Should the Cardinals win tonight they will secure a playoff berth and if Potsdam loses as well, it would lock the Cards into the seventh slot. New Paltz could still be guaranteed the 8th spot even if they lose, as long as the Bears also lose, as they hold the tiebreaker over Potsdam. The pointspread in this game has the Hawks favored by 2, despite the fact that Plattsburgh won their first encounter by double digits. I'd love to pick my Cards in this game but after watching their struggles in the last two games they've played, I have a hard time doing it. Had they taken care of business against Fredonia and Potsdam, they could be playing for a 4th or 5th seed tonight, instead of still trying to qualify for the playoffs. The road hasn't been kind to the Cards and New Paltz features 2 of the top scorers in the league. That statistic is skewed somewhat by the fact that those Hawk players have continued to play right till the end of games that have already been decided (usually a loss) and they have padded their stats against other teams 2nd and 3rd stringers. That's not to say that they aren't good players, because they are, but their scoring averages would probably be a bit less if they weren't still on the floor when other teams had called off the dogs. I'm probably going to regret this but I can't go against Plattsburgh. The one thing I keep thinking about is we've had an awful lot of success against the Hawks in the past few years. Plattsburgh wins a close one 79-75.

Brockport State at Cortland State    8:00 PM

The Golden Eagles are the 2nd hottest team in the conference right now as they've reeled off 4 straight wins and 2nd place is still within their grasp. They have finally reached .500 for the first time this season after getting off to a horrendous 1-6 start. After tonight's game they wind up their schedule with home contests against Potsdam and Plattsburgh, so a win tonight could possibly find them with a 12-6 final record. Cortland will host Fredonia and Buff State to end their regular season. A loss to either one of them coupled with a loss tonight and Brockport could end up tied with the Red Dragons. The Eagles would then own the tiebreaker by virtue of their 2 wins over Buffalo State. Cortland has also been playing some solid basketball having won 8 0f their last 10 games and both of those losses have come at the hands of the 16th ranked Lakers. They traveled to Brockport 3 weeks ago and beat the Eagles 73-66 in a game that was closer than the final score indicated. There's a lot on the line in Corey Gym tonight and I expect this game will be a barnburner. Pointspread favors the Dragons by 4 but I'm going with a mild upset here and picking the revenge minded Eagles to win 78-75 and it wouldn't surprise me to see it decided in OT.

Buffalo State at Fredonia State

Bengals may have seen their NCAA hope go out the window with 2 losses last weekend. They need lots of help in the form of another SUNYAC Championship or failing that, will need a number of East Region teams that are favored to win their respective leagues, to actually do so. That list would include Hartwick, Hobart, and Medaille. It would also help if other teams in the East region like Rochester, Nazareth, Stevens, and NYU put a few L's on the board. Bengals come into tonight's contest hurting in other ways as well with All Conference performer Justin Mitchell nursing an injury that will leave him unavailable for action. Needing to finish strong and having to do so without a player of his caliber will be a big challenge for the Bengals in the next 2 weeks. Fredonia is still hoping to finish in the top 4 and host a first round playoff game. Having to finish against the top 3 in the league is not a recipe for success, however. And their last two games are on the road. Buffalo State didn't exactly pound the Blue Devils when they met in the Queen City and that was with a healthy Justin Mitchell. Winning by only 3 at home doesn't make me feel real excited about taking the Bengals tonight. Julius Bryant is a load inside and could cause problems tonight for a depleted Bengal lineup. The posted line has Buffalo State favored by 4 points but that's with Mitchell in uniform. Somehow I think the Bengal's defense and Jake Simmons' hot hand will overcome the loss of Mitchell. I think Roderick Epps will need a big game off the bench. I think Buff State gets it done but it will be another close game on a night filled with them.  Bengals win it 71-68.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 06:35:04 PM
Plattsburgh leads New Paltz 33-22 at the half. Cards John Perez leads all scorers with 12 points. Harris Wichard has 10 for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 06:39:05 PM
Potsdam falls behind Oneonta by double digits 16-4. Red Dragons up by as much as 14 and settle for a 34-22 advantage at the break. Dan Lee has 11 points for Oneonta, while Curtis Pierce leads the Bears with 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 07:14:17 PM
Geneseo State at Oswego State  8:00 PM

Can anybody stop the Oswego express? 16th ranked Lakers go for 30th straight regular season conference win tonight and I don't think the Blue Knights will be able to stop them. Oswego won their first meeting 63-49 and that 14 point MOV is exactly what the oddsmakers have made tonight's pointspread. Lakers have reeled off 10 in a row and continue to move up in the D3hoops Top 25. Geneseo is tied with Brockport for the 4th playoff spot and is still hopeful they can host a first round game. If they lose tonight and Brockport wins the Blue Knights could find themselves in the bottom half of the draw. If the teams end up tied and the Eagles beat Cortland, Brockport would own the tiebreaker over them. Hard to figure the Knights pulling off the upset here. Anythings possible of course but I've seen the Lakers mow down too many teams this year. Geneseo will just be one more among the many. Lakers 77 Geneseo 62.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 07:50:01 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats New Paltz by a final score of 65-58 and the score isn't indicative of how Plattsburgh dominated this game. Cardinals were up by 15 to 20 points throughout most of the second half. Plattsburgh was still up 62-45 with under 3 minutes to play but got sloppy at the end and missed  a number of free throws that let the Hawks close to within 8 points with 22 seconds left. Junghoon Roh then hit 3 of 4 foul shots to close out the Hawks. An uncontested jumper by New Paltz at the buzzer made the final a 7 point edge. Cardinals were led by John Perez with a double double of 13 points and 10 rebounds. Shavar Fields had 14 points and 7 rebounds. Josh Bruno came off the bench and added 7 points with 6 boards. Shamoy McIntosh also subbed in with 7 points, 3 assists and 2 steals in 18 minutes. Reggie Williams had 6 points and 6 rebounds in 18 minutes as well.

Hawks were led by Harris Wichard with 20 points and 6 rebounds. Conference scoring leader Matt Devine was held to 12 points and 3 boards.

Plattsburgh has now clinched a playoff spot and with 2 wins over New Paltz combined with Potsdam's loss tonight at Oneonta the Cardinals have clinched the 7th seed in the SUNYAC tournament. The most wins the Cards can end up with is 8 and that would only tie them with Fredonia if the Blue Devils don't win another game. Fredonia has beaten the Cards twice however and cannot be overtaken.

New Paltz despite their loss tonight has clinched the 8th and final spot, again due to Potsdam's loss. The Bears could only tie the Hawks with 5 wins and New Paltz holds 2 wins over Potsdam to claim the tiebreaker should that be neccessary.

Cards hit the road again this weekend against Brockport on Friday night followed by Geneseo on Saturday afternoon.

New Paltz has only 1 game remaining which is a Friday night contest at Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 07:54:53 PM
Oneonta 71 Potsdam 57 is the final score I think. Livestats quit working with 24 seconds showing. Potsdam with a less than stellar effort tonight. Trailed the whole game and was down by as many as 26 in the second half with 11:44 left to play. Both teams have now been eliminated from post season play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 08:40:12 PM
Fredonia leads Buffalo State 35-34 at the half. Julius Bryant with 16 points for the Blue Devils. Nico McLean leads the Bengals with 10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 14, 2012, 08:42:21 PM

Oswego rallies late in opening half for 24-21 lead into the break. Geneseo held 16-6 lead with six minutes till half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 08:46:50 PM
Cortland leads Brockport throughout the 1st half and was up by as much as 13 points but Brockport comes back to narrow it to  42-35 at the half. Jeremy Smith with 12 and Harrison hefele with 11 for the Red Dragons

Kyheem Green with 13 for the Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 09:20:05 PM
Buffalo State down by as much as 10 points in the 2nd half has come back to take the lead over Fredonia 53-52 with about 8 minutes to go.

Oswego now up by 14 over Geneseo 52-38 with 8:54 to go

Cortland still leads Brockport 57-52 with 10:43 to play.

Correction Oswego leads Geneseo 56-50 with about 5 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Oswego defeats Geneseo 67-56.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 09:34:51 PM
Buffalo State with a 68-65 lead over Freds with just a couple of minutes to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 14, 2012, 09:43:26 PM

Cortland in 83-65 command ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
Buffalo State up 68-67 with the ball and 6.7 seconds to go. Time out on the floor. Fredonia fouls and Bengals Norman Simmons makes both free throws. Blue Devils call time out down by 3. Fredonia comes down under heavy pressure and only manages a heave from the corner that never draws iron and the Bengals escape with a 70-67 win. That's not bad I predicted a 71-68 Bengal win. How do you like them apples Bengalsrule? ;D 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 09:49:09 PM
Cortland final 85-67 over Brockport. Big win for the Red Dragons. Even bigger game coming up this weekend against Buffalo State. Could be, should be, for 2nd place in the YAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 14, 2012, 09:55:17 PM
Cortland pulls away for handsdome 85-67 conquest. Brockport shaves lead to two at 16:18 but J. Winter and H. Hefele land treys for RDragons. J. Ivy and B. Manning trade points. Corts widen gap to 66-56 at 8:46. Eagles climb back to six. Winter FTs and bucket begin Corts prance to finish line. Winter, K. McMahon, Manning, Hefele play big in second period. Hefele 19 pts(6x11fg, 3x6 3s), 12 rebs, 7 assts in 30'; J. Smith 17 pts(3x5 3s); Winter 19 pts(5x10fg), 6 rebs, 4 assts; McMahon 14 pts(5x8fg); Manning 12 pts(5x10fg). CSt 26x59fg, 8x25 3s, 25x29ft. Port's Ivy 15 pts; K. Green 15 pts and gimps in second half after taking a spill; D. Jackson 10 pts, 6 rebs. Eagles 22x61fg, 4x17 3s, 19x22ft. Corts outboard guests 40-34
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2012, 11:55:36 PM
Quite a ballgame between Fredonia and Buffalo State.  Blue Devils took the early lead and were up by 6 at 10-4 and 12-6 but Bengals came roaring back and went out in front by as much as 8 at 25-17. Blue Devils returned the favor with a 11-0 run to regain the advantage at 28-25. Teams trade baskets and leads for the rest of the period as Fredonia had a slight 35-34 edge at the break.

Blue Devils opened the 2nd half with a 13-4 run and opened up the biggest lead if the night at 48-38 with 15:36 to go. Bengal's Rodney Epps and Nico McLean scored the next 9 points to bring Buff State back within 1. After Fredonia's Leonard Smith nailed a jumper to make it 50-47, the Bengals finally caught them on a 3 pointer by Jake Simmons, his only one of the night. Tied at 50 with 10 minutes left to play the teams would have 7 lead changes along with 6 ties, until the Bengals finally got the lead for good when Ahmed Nagaya rebounded his own miss, got the putback and was fouled. He completed the 3 point play to put Buff State up 68-65. The Bengals got killed on the boards all night long, but the one that mattered most was all Nagaya's and it turned out to be the game winner. It came with 1:34 left to play and Fredonia scored 17 seconds later to pull within 1 but they never scored again as they misfired on their next possession and got called for a charging foul the next time they got the ball. Buffalo State almost committed a mortal sin as they were inbounding the ball at the Fredonia end with 26 seconds to go and still only up by 1. They just had to get the ball in to Jake Simmons or McLean and they would get fouled and go to the line. Instead the player inbounding the ball inexplicably tossed a short floater of a pass that the Blue Devils picked off and immediately called time out. Fortunately for the Bengals, after working the ball for the go ahead basket, the Blue Devils Leonard Smith was called for an offensive foul with 6 seconds to go. They had to foul Norm Simmons on the ensuing inbounds pass and he knocked em both down for the final cushion. With no Justin Mitchell and with Blue Devils all over Jake Simmons, Fredonia said you're going to have to beat us with somebody other than the usual suspects. And so the Bengals did just that as Nico McLean went 7x13 from the field and scored 19 points to lead Buff State. He was 4x5 from the line, had 6 steals (he's the biggest thief on a team of thieves, as the Bengals lead the conference in thefts by a wide margin) 3 assists, and 3 rebounds. His 6 steals tonight gave him 45 in 16 SUNYAC games. That's a huge lead over the player in 2nd place. Ahmed Nagaya scored 14 points (5x6 fg, 4x4 ft) with 5 rebounds and Roderick Epps added 13 points (5x9 fg, 2x5 3's, 1x1 ft) to help offset the loss of Mitchell. Bengals didn't shoot all that well tonight going 26x60 from the field (43.3%), but only 5 x22 from long distance (22.7%). The were 13x17 from the line. (76.5%) As I mentioned they were beat off the boards 39-26 but did create controlled havoc on the court  causing the Blue Devils to have 20 turnovers to only 11 for themselves.

I mentioned in my pre-game write up that Julius Bryant would be a load tonight and he didn't disappoint as the Bengals had trouble with him all night long. They did D him up pretty good near the end of the game as they tried to go inside and the Bengals quickly doubled him down low. He was the game's high scorer with 29 points (12x16 fg, 5x7 ft) as well as the leading rebounder with 13. Damien Goodwin had 15 points ( 6x11 fg, 3x3 ft) along with 6 rebounds. Leonard Smith had 8 points, 6 assists and 3 rebounds. Fredonia shot 50% from the field, 26x52, and like the Bengals didn't hit much from downtown going 2x12 for 16.7%. They were 13x18 from the line (72.2%).

Buffalo State will now travel to Oswego State on Friday night and they really need to win there if they hope to have a chance at the 2nd seed. I posted earlier that their game against Cortland this Saturday could be for 2nd place, but the odds are that they will need to beat Cortland to secure a third place finish. They are in danger of falling all the way down to the fifth seed as they played the easiest of their three remaining games tonight. The next two will only get tougher. Should they lose them both and Brockport or Geneseo wins their final two games (and they both have home games against Plattsburgh and Potsdam this weekend) the Bengals could find themselves in fifth or possibly even sixth place come Sunday morning.

Fredonia faces the same task as the Bengals as they play Cortland then Oswego this weekend. They could still end up in 4th place but it would take a perfect storm for that to happen, given the matchups that they and the teams ahead of them are looking at. Realistically, the Blue Devils have got the #6 seed. They may not like it but they're stuck with it. They could end up with a third game against their travel partners. I bet they'll request more game tape from the Bengals. Eventually they might figure out a way to beat them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2012, 12:07:27 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 14, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
That's not bad I predicted a 71-68 Bengal win. How do you like them apples Bengalsrule? ;D 8-)

Love THEM APPLES magicman! :D One helluva of a game... I can't add anything to whats already been said. Time to hit the sack and then pray that my BELOVED BENGALS find a way to beat Oswego Friday! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2012, 02:54:58 PM
New set of Regional Rankings have just been released. Not a lot of changes in the East. The only change was Hobart leapfrogging over NYU.    Here's the East rankings:


EAST                      In Region     Overall
1.   Hartwick               21-2          22-2

2.   Oswego State       19-2          19-3

3.   Hobart                 18-4          19-4

4.   New York U.         18-4          18-4

5.   Medaille               20-2          21-2

6.   Nazareth              16-6          16-8

For the complete list of Regional Rankings, here's the link to the NCAA page:
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3/regional_rankings
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 06:39:43 PM
Final weekend of play in the SUNYAC.

This is how I think the final standings will end up. The only teams that are locked in at the moment are Oswego, Plattsburgh, and New Paltz. The 2nd through 6th positions are still subject to change.

1.   Oswego
2.   Cortland
3.   Buffalo State
4.   Geneseo
5.   Brockport
6.   Fredonia
7.   Plattsburgh
8.   New Paltz
9.   Potsdam
10. Oneonta

That would make the first round games on Tuesday look like this:  Again, this is just a prediction, as this weekend's results could change the projected standings I posted above.

New Paltz at Oswego
Plattsburgh at Cortland
Fredonia at Buffalo State
Brockport at Geneseo

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 08:12:17 PM
All ten teams teams in action tonight with all games starting at 8:00 PM

Fredonia State at Cortland State

Blue Devils with an outside chance of of finishing in 4th place and hosting a playoff game. They would need an awful lot of help though and I don't see them getting it. A Cortland win tonight, coupled with a Buff State loss to Oswego, would clinch the 2nd seed for the Red Dragons. Cortland won the first matchup at Fredonia by 4 points and the oddsmakers have them favored tonight at home by 8 points. I'll go with Cortland to win this one 74- 67.

New Paltz State at Oneonta State

Hawks final regular season contest and are using this game as a tune up for Tuesday night's opening round matchup against Oswego. Oneonta's season ends tonight and these Red Dragon's would love to close out a dismal year with a victory to give them bookend wins on a schedule that had few highlites. Posted line has this game as a pick 'em but I like New Paltz to get some momentum heading into the playoffs. (Not that it will help much because I can't see them upsetting the Lakers on Tuesday) The Hawks come away with a 77-67 win.

Potsdam State at Geneseo State

Bears have nothing to play for here after losing to Oneonta on Tuesday night. Blue Knights have lots to play for in hopes of securing the 3rd or 4th seed in the tournament. Bears biggest win of the year came against Geneseo back in December. Pointspread favors Geneseo by 10 but I think the Bears will be hard pressed to keep it that close. Geneseo gets their revenge and will win going away, 75-58.

Plattsburgh State at Brockport State

Plattsburgh has locked up the 7th seed and is looking to fine tune their game for the playoffs. Brockport needs to keep pace with Geneseo and actually needs the Blue Knights to lose one of their remaining 2 games to have a chance for the 4th seed or the third seed if Buff State loses their final 2 games. Brockport lost to the Cardinals back in December but were missing AC performer Kyheem Green in that contest. With Green in the lineup and more to play for than the Cards I think the Eagles will get the job done tonight. Pointspread has them favored by 10 but i think the Cards will kepp it closer than that. I see a final score of Brockport 82 Plattsburgh 75.

Buffalo State at Oswego State

#16 Oswego State looking to duplicate the Cardinals of 2007-08 with an 18-0 sweep of the regular season. This could be their toughest test as the Bengals have backed themselves into a corner with 2 losses last weekend that put a damper on their chances of gaining an at large bid to the NCAA tournament. They can't afford another loss and may have already ruined any hope of a Pool C bid. Bengals certainly have more to play for here as they can still gain a 2nd seed in the playoffs if they win tonight and tomorrow against Cortland. Game will feature two of the premier 3 point shooters in D3 as Oswego's Sean Michele leads the nation in 3 point percentage, as he is hitting 52.5% of his attempts from beyond the arc. Michele has connected on 63 treys in 120 attempts. Bengal's Jake Simmons is 27th in the country in that same category as he has made 81 of 195 attempts for a 41.5% figure. Simmons is also 8th in the nation in 3 pointers made per game with 3.4, while Michele is 46th in that category with 2.7 made per game. Jake is also 8th in the nation in most 3 point field goals made with his total of 81. Chad Burridge now has totaled 1737 points in an Oswego State uniform. His brother Mat who played for the Lakers from 2003 thru 2007 totaled 1243 points. Chad needs 20 more points and the two brothers will have reached the 3000 point mark in combined points. Certainly a milestone that not many siblings can claim. Tonught's game is not going to be an easy one for the Bengals. With no Justin Mitchell in the lineup I don't think that Buffalo will be able to handle both Burridge and Hayden Ward on the inside. If they do double up on those guys, Michele, Chris Gilkes or Conor Monaghan will make them pay. And the Lakers have another weapon they didn't have in the first game against the Bengals with 6'8" Josh Delfino who tranferred to Oswego in January. Bengalsrule has guaranteed a Buffalo State victory tonight but I think he OD'd on the Orange Kool-Aid he had prior to the game. Oddsmakers have the Lakers as a 5 point favorite and after they beat a healthy Bengals squad back in Buffalo in December, I don't think a shorthanded Buff State team will be able to pull one out tonight. I'm going with the Lakers here 86-77. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 08:39:32 PM
Brockport State leads Plattsburgh State 30-26 at the half. Lance Legister leads the Eagles with 7 points and John Perez leads the Cardinals also with 7 points. Brockport up 26-15 but Cards come back to close within 4 on two late 3 pointers by Junghoon Roh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
Cortland was down by as much as 12 points on several occasions in the first half the last at 30-18 with 5:35 to play but the Red Dragons end the half on a 16-3 run to go into the break with a 34-33 advantage. Brian Manning with 15 points leads the Red Dragons.
Damien Goodwin with 12 and Julius Bryant with 11 lead Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 08:52:15 PM
Geneseo leads Potsdam 40 -26 at the half. Jordan Jones with 10 for the Blue Knights and Rob Duquette with 10 for the Bears. Game was even through the first 10 minutes but the Blue Knights went on top 18-12 and extended it to their largest lead with a basket at the buzzer by Ryan Riefenhauser.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:00:07 PM
Oswego and Buffalo State going at it tooth and nail as the Lakers go into the break with a 39-36 halftime lead. Jake Simmons is on fire for the Bengals with 22 1st half points. Second leading scorer on the bengals has 4 points. Simmons is 8 for 11 from the field and 3 for 5 from beyond the arc. He hit a couple of 3's that were way beyond the arc. Chad Burridge leads a balanced Oswego attack with 9 points as the Lakers have used the 3 ball better than the Bengals. Oswego is 7 for 13 from downtown as Sean Michele and Ryan Sheridan both have a pair of triples. Burridge, Chris Gilkes and Conor Monaghan also have each nailed a 3 pointer. Lakers 14 of 28 from the field.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:09:20 PM
New Paltz holds a slim 34-33 lead over Oneonta at halftime. Largest lead was a 20-15 advantage by New Paltz with 10:34 to play. Matt Devine leads the Hawks with 14 points and Frankie Kelly tops Oneonta with 13 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:28:49 PM
Buffalo State comes back from a 9 point 52-43 deficit to go back in front 56-53 on a 10-0 run.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
Geneseo defeats Potsdam 74-51. Connor Fedge with 18, Ryan Riefenhauser with 14 and Jordan Jones with 13 lead the Blue Knights.
Curtis Pierce with 13 and Rob Duquette with 12 pace the Bears.

Geneseo with a victory over Plattsburgh tomorrow afternoon will claim at least the 4th seed and a home game in the playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:38:04 PM
Bengals with an old fashioned 3 point play by Ahmed Nagaya and a steal and basket by Nico McLean give Buff State a 70-61 lead over the Lakers with about 7 minutes to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Brockport all over Plattsburgh 87-67 to keep pace with Geneseo.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:49:08 PM
Oswego down 73-63 goes on a 12-0 run, the last 5 points on a Hayden Ward 3 pointer followed by 2 free throws by Ward, to take a 75-73 lead with 1:12 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:50:26 PM
Cortland downs Fredonia 72-68 to claim at least a 3rd seed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
Oswego still up 75-73 at the line and Lakers miss both free throws and a chance to make it a 2 possession game. Bengals come down and almost turn it over but end up with a jump ball and manage to keep possession. 20 seconds to go. Bengals Roderick Epps drives to the hoop and misses the shot and Hayden Ward grabs the rebound and is fouled. He makes the 1st and makes the 2nd to make it a 4 point lead. Bengals fail to score and Burridge is fouled. He makes 1 of 2 to make it 78-73 and that's a final.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 09:57:35 PM
New Paltz defeats Oneonta 66-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2012, 10:02:04 PM
Cortland clutch at the foul line to withstand Fredonia comeback from 12 point hole midway through second half. Reminiscent of opening period when RDragons shot down 12 point deficit about 10' in as D. Goodwin shot lights out early and B. Manning brought CSt. back. But down the stretch Corts held 67-59 lead at 1:21 on FTs. Freds L. Smith nailed a trey at 1:15 and the pressure cooker began. J. Bryant had Devils within 67-64 on stickback at 1:04. H. Hefele hiked lead to four on FT at 0:39. Bryant delivered a hoop at 0:28. J. Winter two FTs at 0:19 for 70-66 edge. Goodwin fouled on shot beyond the arc and hit first two at 0:11. Manning sealed it from the stripe at 0:08.

Manning with 22 pts (8x14fg, 5x8 3s), 7 rebs; Winter 12 pts(8x9ft), 4assts; Hefele 11 pts; K. McMahon 7 rebs. Dragons 18x24ft, Freds 7x10ft. Devils Bryant 23 pts(10x17fg), 10 rebs; Goodwin 16 pts(5x7fg, 4x5 3s including 4x4 before anyone broke a sweat)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2012, 11:55:26 PM
Oswego State 78 Buffalo State 73

Two good teams going at it down to the wire tonight in Laker Hall. Buffalo State jumped out to an early lead behind the hot hand of Jake Simmons and had a 17-9 advantage. Lakers got 3 straight 3 pointers, 1 by Ryan Sheridan and 2 by Sean Michele to go in front 18-17. Three more ties would occur before the Lakers forged ahead by 7 points at 31-24 with 3:54 left in the half. 2 Jake Simmons triples brought the Bengals within 2, at 32-30 and after a Chad Burridge layup made it 34-30, Simmons buried another triple to make it a 1 point game. After the teams traded possessions with no points scored, a Laker turnover resulted in another 3 point play for Simmons but this was the old "and one" variety, to give the Bengals a 36-34 edge. The Lakers ended the half on a Hayden Ward jumper and another Ryan Sheridan 3, to go into the break up 39-36.

The 2nd half opened with the teams exchanging baskets and Buff State caught the Lakers at 41 on another 3 point play by Ahmed Nagaya. Conor Monaghan then made back to back layups and after 2 Chris Gilke free throws, Monaghan buried a three to put Oswego up 50-41, for their largest lead of the game. Still up 52-43 the Lakers lose the lead as the Bengals, fueled by another Jake Simmon's three pointer, 4 points by Nagaya, and a jumper and 3 pointer by Roderick Epps finish a 14-1 run to go back in front for the first time in the half at 57-53 with 12 minutes left. Bengals continued to roll and stretched their advantage to 73-63 on another 3 pointer by Jake Simmons with just under 7 minutes to go and that was the largest lead of the game for either team. Hard to believe, but Buffalo State never scores another point as Oswego rides the back of Hayden Ward who scores 11 of the final 15 Laker points to pull out the win 78-73. Those 15 points started with a Monaghan jumper, followed by a Ward layup. Ward then got a tip in off a Sheridan miss. After a Buff State miss and a foul, Burridge made 1 of 2 from the line to bring the Lakers within 3 at 73-70. Teams traded fouls, traded misses, and traded turnovers, before Ward grabbed another rebound of a missed 3 by Monaghan, stepped back, and made a 3 of his own to tie the game at 73 with 2:44 left. Teams both misfire and with 1:50 to go Ward is fouled and he makes both free throws to give the Lakers the lead. Buffalo State still has plenty of time to pull this game out but the Bengals come up empty on 3 straight possessions. Needing to foul the Bengals get a huge break when Oswego misses both free throws but on their trip down for the tie, Burridge blocks a shot that ends up in a jump ball call, that allows Buffalo State to retain possession, with 24 ticks left. I'd certainly want the ball in the hands of Jake Simmons at this point, but somehow he doesn't get it and it didn't look like Epps got off a good shot on his drive to the basket. Ward corraled the rebound and was fouled with 14 seconds on the clock and he calmly swished both free throws to make it a 4 point lead. Simmons came down and hurridly threw up a three that missed and Burridge was fouled and made 1 of 2 for the final point of the 15-0 ending.

Oswego was led by Ward with 18 points (6x12 fg, 1x5 3's, 5x7 ft) and 12 rebounds for another double double in only 23 minutes of action. Burridge just missed a double double of his own as he had 17 points ( 5x11 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x10 ft) and 9 rebounds. Conor Monaghan was also in double figure with 14 points ( 5x13 fg, 2x7 3's, 2x4 ft), 3 assists and 3 boards. Sean Michele had 6 points, 10 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals while playing the entire 40 minutes. Lakers shot 24x55 fg (43.6%), 9x25 3's (36%), and 21x30 ft (70%). They had 43 rebounds to 35 for the Bengals. Oswego had 13 turnovers, while Buff State had 12.

The Bengals were led by Jake Simmons who was the game's high scorer with 30 points (10x18 fg, 5x12 3's, 5x5 ft). Ahmed Nagaya added 18 points (8x15 fg, 2x2 ft) and grabbed 8 rebounds. Nico McLean with 6 points, 9 rebounds and 4 steals. Bengals were 28x69 fg (40.6%), 6x18 3's (33.3%), 11x13 ft (84.6%).

The win gives the Lakers a 21-3 record and their 31st straight regular season conference win. They will take on Fredonia State tomorrow afternoon looking to make it a clean sweep for the year. 

The loss leaves the Bengals with an 11-6 conference slate (18-7 overall) and they will need a win tomorrow at Cortland to guarantee them the 3rd seed in the tournament. A loss coupled with a Brockport win and a Geneseo win, will find them in fifth place at the end of the day.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 03:31:25 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2012, 06:39:43 PM
Final weekend of play in the SUNYAC.

This is how I think the final standings will end up. The only teams that are locked in at the moment are Oswego, Plattsburgh, and New Paltz. The 2nd through 6th positions are still subject to change.

1.   Oswego
2.   Cortland
3.   Buffalo State
4.   Geneseo
5.   Brockport
6.   Fredonia
7.   Plattsburgh
8.   New Paltz
9.   Potsdam
10. Oneonta

That would make the first round games on Tuesday look like this:  Again, this is just a prediction, as this weekend's results could change the projected standings I posted above.

New Paltz at Oswego          This game is a definite matchup
Plattsburgh at Cortland       This game is a definite matchup
Fredonia at Buffalo State     TBD
Brockport at Geneseo          TBD

Well, after Friday night's games a few more pieces of the puzzle have fallen into place. Cortland has sewn up the 2nd seed as no other team can reach 13 wins. Fredonia's loss to Cortland means the Blue Devils are locked into the 6th seed. They can't be caught by those teams below them and they can't catch any teams in front of them.

Went 5-0 with my picks Friday night and almost had the Cortland-Fredonia game nailed. I had it 74-67 and it was 72-68.  Also pretty close on the Geneseo-Potsdam game. I had it 75-58 and it was 74-51.

My year to date record is 94-28 which gives me a success rate of 77%. 9 of those 28 losses have been by Plattsburgh State. 6 have been by Brockport State, 4 have been by Buffalo State and 3 by Potsdam State. I also predicted both of Oswego D3 losses would be wins. That accounts for 24 of my 28 losses.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 04:33:52 AM
Brockport 87 Plattsburgh 67

Brockport grabbed the lead in this game right from the start and were never headed. They quickly opened up a 13-4 lead and increased it to double digits at 17-7. They continued to lead by 6 to 10 points and gained the largest lead of the half at 26-15 on a 3 pointer by Gerald Williams with 6 minutes to play. Plattsburgh would cut into that lead as they ended the half on an 11-4 spurt to go into the break only down 30-26. The Cards opened the 2nd half with a 3 pointer by Ezra Hodgson but that was the end of the Cardinal highlites as the Eagles quickly scored 7 unanswered points to build it back to an 8 point lead. Still up by 9 at 46-37 after another Hodgson 3 pointer by Plattsburgh, Brockport would go on another 11-2 run to make it 57 to 39 and put the game away for all practical purposes. The lead continued to grow and reached as much as 26 points at 69-43 and the closest Plattsburgh could get was 17 points on several occasions.

Brockport placed 4 players in double figures as Kyheem Green led the way with 12 points and 6 rebounds. John Ivy, Jordan Major, and Lance Legister all had 10 points, while Gerald Williams added 9. No Brockport starter played more than 26 minutes as Coach Dunne emptied his bench. Eagles shot 50% from the field, 40% from downtown and 65.2% from the line. They were out rebounded 44 to 38 but only had 13 turnovers to 21 for the Cards.

Plattsburgh got 13 points and 5 rebounds from John Perez. Anthony Baker came off the bench to score 11 points and grb 6 boards in only 14 minutes of action. Reggie Williams had 7 points, 8 rebounds and 4 blocks in 16 minutes and Mike Mitchell scored 8 points in 18 minutes. Cards shot 23x63 from the field (36.5%), and were only 5x14 from 3 point range (35.7%). They were 16x24 from the line (66.6%).

Brockport will host Potsdam tomorrow and they need Plattsburgh to beat Geneseo so they can move ahead of the Blue Knights in the standings. They could finish as high as 3rd or as low as 5th depending on the results of the Geneseo game and the Buff State at Cortland game.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 06:09:29 AM
Hayden Ward was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week on Wednesday for the week ending Feb. 12th. Long overdue I believe. After Friday night's game against Buffalo State, if he repeats that effort today against Fredonia, he may win back to back POTW awards. Here is the release from the YAC website:


FREDONIA, N.Y. - Oswego State junior forward Hayden Ward has been named the SUNYAC Men's Basketball Player of the Week for the week ending February 12, 2012.

Ward averaged 16.5 points per game off 58.8 percent (10-of-17) shooting from the floor and 81.8 percent (9-of-11) shooting from the charity stripe, helping the Lakers clinch the No. 1-seed in the upcoming playoffs. In addition, he shot 80 percent (4-of-5) from long range. Ward scored 13 points in just 23 minutes of action in a 68-55 win over Oneonta on Friday. He followed up his performance against the Red Dragons with a 20-point explosion against New Paltz on Saturday, lifting the Lakers to a 92-68 victory. Against the Hawks, he shot 7-of-10 from the floor, which included a 3-of-4 mark from distance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 04:03:38 PM
Final day of the regular season with 4 games scheduled all at 4:00 PM

Potsdam State at Brockport State

Brockport is hoping to grab the 4th seed (and possibly even a #3 seed) and host a first round game. They need a win in today's game and a loss by Geneseo to do so. They could also move up if Buffalo State gets beat by Cortland. They shouldn't have a problem with the first part of the equation as the Bears just seem to be going through the motions. Pointspread has the Eagles favored by 16 and after the way that Brockport disposed of Plattsburgh yesterday combined with the lackluster effort from the Bears against Geneseo, 16 doesn't seem like enough. I'll go with the Eagles to win in a romp 89-59.

Plattsburgh State at Geneseo State

Cardinals playing like a team that has nothing to play for. Hope they get it out of their system. This is a meaningless game for them but has big implications for the Blue Knights. A #3 seed is still in play and if they get it they would face Fredonia who has owned them this year. Their other possible matchups would be against Buff State or Brockport. Hmmm...maybe they don't want the 3 seed, as they are 3-1 in those games. Posted line has Geneseo favored by 6 points but they handled the Cards pretty easily back in December in the Burgh. The Knights should win this one 76-63. Sure hope I'm wrong though.

Fredonia State at Oswego State

The story of this game is all Oswego. The 16th ranked Lakers have a lot to lose, if they lose, and at the top of the list is their lofty position in the East Region rankings. A win today coupled with a Hartwick loss and the Lakers should move into the #1 spot in the NCAA rankings that will come out next Wednesday. That would guarantee them an at large bid should they suffer a setback in the SUNYAC Tournament and fail to gain the automatic bid. They also would like to move up a few more notches in the National Rankings as well and depending on the outcomes of teams ranked above them, they could do so. Finally there is that clean sweep of conference foes that always looks nice on the resume. Trying to win their 32nd straight regular season conference game and carry that streak into next season is also another goal. Chad Burridge needs just 3 points to give him and brother Mat a combined 3000 points for their Oswego careers. I can see that happening on the Lakers 1st possession with a hoop and harm. Chad is only 46 points shy of the 1800 point mark for his own career total. Fredonia, locked into the 6th seed, would seem to lack motivation, but the Blue Devils would love nothing better than to knock off the Lakers and prevent the brooms from coming out in Laker Hall. Beating a ranked team heading into the playoffs would give Fredonia all kinds of confidence and the Blue Devils know their season will end, unless they can somehow walk off Max Zeil gym next weekend, with the SUNYAC championship. Pointspread has the Lakers favored by 11 points and that seems to be a little high. i think it might closer but still another Oswego win. Lakers 72 Blue Devils 65.

Buffalo State at Cortland State

Bengals need this game to secure a home playoff berth. Cortland has already clinched the 2nd seed. Buffalo State, with much more on the line will be shorthanded again with no Justin Mitchell, but hope to get another big lift from Jake Simmons. Cortland could use a win here to perhaps gain entry into the regional rankings. With an 18-6 regional record the Red Dragons could win out and lose in the SUNYAC final, which would give them a 21-7 in region finish. They would need help to get a Pool C bid but it's not impossible. Oddsmakers have made Cortland a slim 1 point favorite. I'm taking the Bengals to win 82-77.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 04:46:24 PM
Geneseo leads Plattsburgh 42-28 at halftime. Andy Drescher with 11 points to lead the Knights. John Perez with 6 points for the Cards.  Geneseo up 25-23 with 6:50 left in the half, goes on a 13-0 run to move in front 38-23.
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Post by: jdex on February 18, 2012, 04:56:59 PM

Brockport 44, Potsdam 17 at the half

Oswego 37, Fredonia 12 late in opening period

Buffalo St. by a little late in first half .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 04:57:11 PM
Oswego all over Fredonia 39-14 with under 3 minutes left in the half. Fredonia's Julius Bryant just went to the bench with his 3rd foul.  Video feed with commentary is up and running but livestats not working.
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Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 04:59:31 PM
Buffalo State leads Cortland 45-41 at the half.

Jake Simmons with 13 points for the Bengals and Nico McLean with 11. Jeremy Smith has 17 for the Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:00:30 PM
Oswego goes into the break up 39-16. Finally some livestats from the Laker game.
Hayden Ward with 12 points. Sean Michele with 10. Ryan Sheridan with 8, Conor Monaghan with 8 and Chad Burridge with 7 to lead a balanced Oswego effort.  Damien Goodwin with 5 points leads Fredonia. Fred's big man Julius Bryant was held scoreless.
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Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:10:57 PM
Brockport puts the Bears away early as they open the game with a 23-3 run. Kyheem Green leads the Eagles with 12 points who have now opened up a 51-22 lead with 16:20 left in the game.
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Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:13:25 PM
The rout is also on in Geneseo as the Blue Knights open up a 59-35 lead with 11:14 left to play.
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Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:34:42 PM
Oswego  51 Fredonia 25 with 12 minutes to go

Brockport 72 Potsdam 37 with 7:30 to play

Geneseo 75 Plattsburgh 51 with 2:55 to play

Cortland with a bunch of 3 pointers has taken an 6 point lead over the Bengals at 72-66 with 10 minutes to go.
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Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:37:40 PM
Final in Geneseo as the Blue Knights secure at least a 4th seed with a 75-53 win over Plattsburgh.

Blue Knights took control early and coasted to the win. Balanced effort with 4 players in double figures. Matt Curry led the way with 13 points. Mike Hoy and Ryan Rienfenhauser both had 12, while Andy Drescher had 11.

Junghoon Roh led Plattsburgh with 11 points and Shavar Fields added 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:48:54 PM
Cortland and Buffalo State getting to crunch time as the Bengals come back from a 9 point 86-77 deficit to close to within 2 at 88-86. Jesse Winter just buries another 3 pointer, his 5th and reaches a career high 30 points as the Dragons are now up 91-86 with 2:39 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Brockport buries Potsdam 94-49 and now awaits the outcome of the Cortland game to see if they will host a playoff game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:55:30 PM
The gym is on fire at Cortland as the Dragons lead 93-91 with 1 minute to go. Cortland misfires and Buffalo State comes down with a chance to tie or win. Bengal's Nico McLean hits a jumper to tie it up and Cortland has the ball with 7.6 seconds to go. Cort's Jeremy Smith misses a shot at the buzzer and we go to overtime.
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Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 05:56:58 PM
Oswego finishes off Fredonia with a 75-44 thumping.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 18, 2012, 05:57:30 PM
Corland and BS to OT at 93 all .......N. McLean hits deuce just inside the arc at 0:15 for knot. Corts miss final bid. J. Simmons 29pts for Buffs, J. Winters 30 and J. Smith 26 for CSt
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Post by: jdex on February 18, 2012, 06:22:41 PM

Cortland 108, BS 105 OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 06:22:48 PM
Buffalo State strikes first as Jake Simmons hits a jumper. Cortland's Jeremy Smith then turns the ball over but Bengals miss the shot, however they get the rebound and Cort's Kevin McMahon is called for his 5th foul. Bengal's Seth Runge hits 1 of 2 to make it a 3 point lead. Bengal's Nagaya commits a foul on the 2nd free throw and Cort's Garen Spendjian hits 1 of 2. Bengals misfire and Winter comes down and lays it in to tie the score. Bengal's Jake Simmons misses a 3 and Cortland's Brian Manning comes down and buries a 3 to make it 99-96 Cortland. Teams trade misses on three straight possessions (1 for Cortland, 2 for the Bengals) and Cortland has the ball after a time out. 2:40 to go. Manning with the shot clock winding down buries another three and Nico McLean goes to the other end and hits a jumper for the Bengals. Now 102-98 with a time out and 1:52 left to play. Cortland works the clock and Smith drives the lane and his shot is blocked. Cortland takes a timeout with 8 seconds on the shot clock. Dragons misfire out of the timeout and Bengals come down and Jake Simmons is fouled and goes to the line. He makes 1 of 2 and Cortland gets the rebound but turns the ball over with 58 seconds to go. Jake Simmons misses a 3 point attempt and Bengals foul Jesse Winter  with 39 seconds left. Winter makes 1 of 2 to make it a 2 possesion game at 103-99. Bengals hurry down and Nico McLean nails a jumper to cut it to 2 with 32 seconds left and call a TO. Cortland inbounds and Manning is fouled. He makes them both and the Bengals come down misss, rebound and Anthony Hamer makes a jumper to make it 105-103 with 17 seconds to play. Bengal TO.  Cortland inbounds to Winter who is fouled with 11 seconds left. He makes 1 of 2 giving the Bengals a chance to tie. Hamer drives downcourt and instead of a three pointer opts to lay it in for 2 with 5 seconds left. Not sure why they didn't try a three there. Cortland inbounds and Jesse Winter makes them both. Bengals McLean throws up a three pointer at the buzzer that is no good and Cortland comes away with the hard earned win. What a game. Bobby Comstock called it one of the best games he's ever seen. 
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Post by: jdex on February 18, 2012, 06:29:58 PM

Cortland's J Winter with 36 points on a day in which the junior scored his 1,000th career point. Was 11x18 from the field and 5x8 3s and as usual clutch at the stripe. J. Smith 26 points including 15 by halftime. B. Manning another leading role with 23 pts and 5x10 treys. Manning back to back threes provided six point lead with 2:10 to go in OT. Buffs never back down, N. McLean and J.Simmons superlative performances, especially Simmons in waning moments of regulation after Dragons mounted nine point lead with 5:03 to play. Simmons with 32 pts on 6x17 3s, McLean 26 pts, A. Nagaya 17 pts. Cortland 37x71fg, 16x35 3s, 17x28ft. BS 41x86fg, 7x29 3s, 18x27ft. Bengals threw plenty of size at CSt, which basically had five guards on the court thoughout OT.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2012, 06:43:21 PM
Here's the quarterfinal matchups in the SUNYAC tournament: All games will start at 7:00 PM on Tuesday Feb. 21st, except the Fredonia-Geneseo game which will start at 8:00 PM.

#8 New Paltz State at #1 Oswego State
#7 Plattsburgh State at # 2 Cortland State
#6 Fredonia State at #3 Geneseo State
#5 Buffalo State at #4 Brockport State
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 18, 2012, 11:51:14 PM
Actually, the Geneseo game should start at 8 p.m., since the Geneseo women are also at home (as a #4 seed) and will host Cortland at 6 p.m. The other three men's games (at Oswego, Cortland and Brockport) are 7 p.m. starts since they are not part of doubleheaders.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
"MAMA SAID THERE BE DAYS LIKE THIS".  >:(  Up by 10 at Oswego and then an OT loss at Cortland. Whew! :-[ Now it's 1 and done for the SUNYAC 8. Great time to be a YAC fan ( if I must say so myself).

I'm encouraged by the continued dominant play of Ahmed Nagaya and the career best performance by Seth Runge. It seems that everything is coming together at the right time for BSC!!  Losing Justin Mitchell has finally  set in on my beloved BENGALS and the realization that they CAN win without him was evident this weekend! Now we have to just go into Brockport and get it done!

Can't wait to see magicmans predictions for Tuesday!

Good luck to all!!! ;)
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Post by: magicman on February 19, 2012, 09:17:52 PM
SUNYAC office with a tough choice this week for Player of the Week honors.

Hayden Ward who was the POTW last week has put up even better numbers for this week. Ward scored 56 points in 3 games (all wins) for an average of 18.6. Last week his ppg average was 16.5. He also had 2 double doubles this week and finished with 27 rebounds in the 3 games for an average of 9 per game (his average last week was 5.5) His stats would probably have been even better but he had limited minutes in 2 of the 3 games. He played 36 minutes against Geneseo, but only 23 minutes against Buff State and only 18 minutes against Fredonia as the Lakers had a huge lead early in the game.

Ward's deserved recognition of back to back POTW awards will probably be denied due to the exceptional week Cortland's Jesse Winter had. Winter helped lead the Red Dragons to 3 victories during the week as they wrapped up the 2nd seed with tough wins over Brockport, Fredonia and a classic overtime battle against Buffalo State.

Winter scored 67 points in those 3 games, which included a career high 36 points against the Bengals. He averaged 22.3 ppg and shot 51.4 % from the field (18x35). He made seven 3-pointers in 15 attempts (46.6%) and hit 24 of 29 free throws (82.7%). Winter also had a total of 12 rebounds and 15 assists in those 3 games.

He also reached the 1000 point milestone during his 36 point output against Buffalo State. Since the only Cortland player that has been accorded POTW honors this year is Brian Manning, and rarely does a player get back to back awards, (sorry Hayden) plus it was a milestone week for Jesse, I think it's safe to say Mr. Winter will be the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending Feb. 19th. Congratulations in advance, Jesse. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2012, 09:10:15 PM

I'm encouraged by the continued dominant play of Ahmed Nagaya and the career best performance by Seth Runge. It seems that everything is coming together at the right time for BSC!!  Losing Justin Mitchell has finally  set in on my beloved BENGALS and the realization that they CAN win without him was evident this weekend! Now we have to just go into Brockport and get it done!

Can't wait to see magicmans predictions for Tuesday!

Tuesday final:
Buffalo State 57 Brockport 88
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2012, 09:37:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2012, 09:10:15 PM

I'm encouraged by the continued dominant play of Ahmed Nagaya and the career best performance by Seth Runge. It seems that everything is coming together at the right time for BSC!!  Losing Justin Mitchell has finally  set in on my beloved BENGALS and the realization that they CAN win without him was evident this weekend! Now we have to just go into Brockport and get it done!

Can't wait to see magicmans predictions for Tuesday!

Tuesday final:
Buffalo State 57 Brockport 88

Just kidding... Just kidding. I'm going out on a limb here and picking the Bengals because of the old "it's tough to beat a team 3 times in a season theory". But it won't be easy and it could be OT. Final score Buffalo State 83 Brockport 80
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2012, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2012, 09:17:52 PM
SUNYAC office with a tough choice this week for Player of the Week honors.
Winter scored 67 points in those 3 games, which included a career high 36 points against the Bengals. He averaged 22.3 ppg and shot 51.4 % from the field (18x35). He made seven 3-pointers in 15 attempts (46.6%) and hit 24 of 29 free throws (82.7%). Winter also had a total of 12 rebounds and 15 assists in those 3 games.

Might I also offer Jake Simmons to the list of possible POTW honors. He exceeded Winters 67 by 2 (69 in 3 games). 62 of his points came against Cortland and Oswego - the top 2 teams defensive teams in the Yac (#1 ranked defensive team - Cortland yields 61.4 and #2 Oswego yields 62.1). I doubt any Yac player has had 2 games like that against the TOP 2 defensive teams in our conference this season!

As far as your predictions there magicman....... ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2012, 05:14:46 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2012, 12:18:39 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2012, 09:17:52 PM
SUNYAC office with a tough choice this week for Player of the Week honors.
Winter scored 67 points in those 3 games, which included a career high 36 points against the Bengals. He averaged 22.3 ppg and shot 51.4 % from the field (18x35). He made seven 3-pointers in 15 attempts (46.6%) and hit 24 of 29 free throws (82.7%). Winter also had a total of 12 rebounds and 15 assists in those 3 games.

Might I also offer Jake Simmons to the list of possible POTW honors. He exceeded Winters 67 by 2 (69 in 3 games). 62 of his points came against Cortland and Oswego - the top 2 teams defensive teams in the Yac (#1 ranked defensive team - Cortland yields 61.4 and #2 Oswego yields 62.1). I doubt any Yac player has had 2 games like that against the TOP 2 defensive teams in our conference this season!

As far as your predictions there magicman....... ;)

I already knew what Jake's stats were for the week. He came in third on my list for the following reasons:

1. His game against Fredonia was below his normal level of play. In fact it was one of his worst statistical games of the year. :o

2. The Bengals were only 1-2 in their three games, :P while both Cortland and Oswego were 3-0.

3.  Jake has already won the POTW award twice this season. Quit trying to hog all the glory. ???

4. I don't drink the orange kool-aid like you do. ;D

Jake did have two outstanding games against the Lakers and Red Dragons, dropping 30 and 32 on consecutive nights. He had eleven 3 pointers over the weekend and now has 92 triples for the season. He continues to be near the top of the leaderboard in the NCAA's for total 3's made this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2012, 11:04:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 20, 2012, 05:14:46 AM
4. I don't drink the orange kool-aid like you do. ;D

Magicman you may want to rethink that. There's a "Special" going on  this week during the SUNYAC Basketball and Hockey playoffs. "Buy one get one free - B.O.K.A."

BENGALS ORANGE KOOL AID


Could be sold out by Weds., so hurry before the supply runs out!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2012, 08:38:33 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 poll out today and Oswego State moves up another 2 spots to #14. The Lakers point total increased from 229 to 274.

Hartwick also moved up from the #25 spot to the #21 position. They went from 50 points to 111.

NYU continues to fall as they are now getting 8 points in the ORV category and would be in 38th place.

Hobart, who got a little more notice than last week, now has 5 points, and lands in 40th place.

No other East Region school was mentioned. Neither Cortland State or Stevens Tech, both with 19-6 overall records and the schools with the best records in the East other than those mentioned above, got any recognition.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 21, 2012, 02:07:36 AM
Computer was down for about a week...so much action so little time....  In my perfect YAC world Bengals beat Oswego State in the finals (I feel like I must have been bad luck for the Bengals - I go to see them play and they lose Mitchell, the game and most of the games since).  That being said ....everyone's record is zero and zero now!!  Do some serious damage Bengals!!!  1 win at a time!!! Of course Magic I hope the Cards do well too out of respect for you but barring a complete "meltdown" by the Lakers it is unlikely they'll be dancing this year.... ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 21, 2012, 02:07:36 AM
In my perfect YAC world Bengals beat Oswego State in the finals (I feel like I must have been bad luck for the Bengals - I go to see them play and they lose Mitchell, the game and most of the games since).  That being said ....everyone's record is zero and zero now!!  Do some serious damage Bengals!!!  1 win at a time!!!

Of course Magic I hope the Cards do well too out of respect for you but barring a complete "meltdown" by the Lakers it is unlikely they'll be dancing this year.... ;D

Thanks for the well wishes there With age! We'll try and make your dreams a reality. ;)

Did someone say a Buff State vs. Plattsburgh Final!? Sounds good to me! ;D  Its possible!  Circa 2008-9 - Number 1, 2 and 4 seeds all lose first round. Number 8 seed (Brockport) meets number #5 seed (Fredonia) in Championship game (At Oswego). "Keep hope alive"!!! (My stomach is in a KNOT  :-[ )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 06:10:39 PM
Jesse Winter was chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending Feb. 19th. Jesse became a double dipper as he was also named as the ECAC Upstate Region Player of the Week. No real surprises there as he was the top contender. Congratulations Jesse, hope you got it out of your system. ;D You can go back to normal tonight, against my Cards. I've had enough Winter for this year, thank you.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

Cortland guard Jesse Winter was named the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) Men's Basketball Player of the Week. Winter averaged 22.3 points, 5.0 assists and 4.0 rebounds per game in three Cortland victories as the Red Dragons clinched second place in the SUNYAC standings. He scored a career-high 36 points and dished out seven assists in Cortland's 108-105 overtime victory versus Buffalo State in the regular-season finale. During that game, Winter became the 20th player in team history to reach 1,000 career points and the ninth to do so in three or less seasons. He scored 21 points in the second half and six of Cortland's 15 points in overtime. Earlier in the week, Winter totaled 19 points, six rebounds and four assists in a win over Brockport and had 12 points and four assists in a win versus Fredonia.

And from the ECAC website:

Jesse Winter – SUNY Cortland
Junior, Guard, Rockville Centre, N.Y.

Winter averaged 22.3 points, 4.0 rebounds and 5.0 assists in a 3-0 week for the Red Dragons, who wrapped up the No. 2 seed in the upcoming State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC)  tournament.  The junior scored a career-high 36 points in Cortland's 108-105 overtime win over Buffalo State, becoming the 20th player in program history to surpass 1,000 career points


He didn't make the D3hoops team of the week but was probably under consideration. Two factors against him were great weeks by the 2 guards that were chosen for the D3 team and another Cortland hoopster, Brittany Cohen, from the Lady Red Dragons was chosen for the Women's Team of the Week. Two out of Three ain't bad though.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 07:04:38 PM
The Second Season is upon us. Probably for every team except Oswego State it's One and Done if you lose. Here's my selections for tonight's action.

#6 Fredonia State at #3 Geneseo State 8:00 PM

Round three between these 2 teams and Geneseo is still looking for a win. They lost a tough one at home, back on January 13th, when Fredonia went to the line with 1 second on the clock in a tie game. Blue Devils made the first, missed the 2nd and they stole one from the Knights. 2nd game a month later was all Blue Devils from the outset. Tonight Geneseo has a chance for some payback in the one that really counts. Pointspread has this game favoring Geneseo by 2 points and it should be a down to the wire finish. I'm going with the Blue Knights to win 60-57.

#5 Buffalo State at #4 Brockport State 7:00 PM

Bengals in a similar spot as Geneseo as they have yet to beat Brockport this season. Both times Buff State had to deal with the loss of Justin Mitchell just prior to these games being played. And tonight will be no different as Mitchell will once again be missing in action. I don't know if the Bengals can win this game without him but I do know that they'll come to play and will leave it all on the court tonight. Oddsmakers have listed this game as a pick em and I've already picked em 2 days ago. Bengals 83 Brockport 80.

#7 Plattsburgh State at #2 Cortland State 7:00 PM

Cardinals have hung with the Red Dragons in both contests this year and came back from a 21 point 2nd half deficit in their most recent game to catch Cortland with 4 minutes to go. Only a great drive by Jesse Winter followed by a wing and a prayer from Brian Manning put Plattsburgh in a hole they couldn't dig out of. I wish I could have seen some improvement on the road this past weekend that would give me some hope in this game. unfortunately the Cards mailed those last two games in. Cortland seems to be peaking at the right time and they did give the Lakers their toughest contest in the YAC this year. Too many shooters for Plattsburgh to cover and 3 point shooters in particular, have killed the Cards all year. Pointspread has the Red Dragons favored by 13. I think that might be too many but I can't see this one coming down to the wire either. I hope I'm wrong but I think Cortland moves on with a 73-65 victory.

#8 New Paltz State at #1 Oswego State   7:00 PM

The Lakers are on a mission to take this season a couple of steps further than last year. First and foremost is winning the SUNYAC Championship, something this group of players has yet to do. For seniors Chad Burridge, Sean Michele, Conor Monaghan, Ryan Sheridan, and Brian Gebhardt, plus juniors Hayden Ward and Chris Gilke it's an improtant missing piece to their resume. Tonight's contest against the Hawks doesn't figure to be much of a contest as the oddsmakers have Oswego favored by a whopping 18 point margin. Hawks can score points in bunches though and Harris Wichard and Matt Devine are always dangerous. Lakers need to get off to a solid start so they're not under pressure down the stretch. I think the Lakers do just that and win going away 84-68.
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 07:34:55 PM
Plattsburgh and Cortland tied at 32 at the half.

Mike Mitchell with 8 points for Plattsburgh. Junghoon Roh and Ketema Brooks both have 7. Jesse Winter with 11 and Jeremy Smith with 10 lead the Red Dragons.

Cortland up by 6 early on but Cards hang tough and gain the lead at 18-17 with 7:16 to play. Cortland goes back up by 5 but Cards once again come back to lead by 1 at 24-23. Four ties thereafter until the end of the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
Oswego up on new Paltz 36-28 at the break. Hayden Ward with 11 and Chad burridge with 9 to pace the Lakers. Matt Devine with 11 and Nick Taldi with 9 for the Hawks. Lakers out of the gate quickly and go up 15-4 with 5 minutes gone in the game. Still up 29-14 with 9:41 left in the half, Lakers get doubled up 14-7 by the Hawks over the rest of the period.
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Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 07:56:41 PM
Buffalo State was down early against the Eagles at 8-0 and after closing to 8-7 fall behind again 23-11 with 9:24 left in the period. Bengals close to 23-20 and finally catch Brockport at 31 apiece on a Jake Simmons 3 pointer with 3:21 to go. Bengals grab their first lead on a Roderick Epps free throw and Norman Simmons' basket for a 34-31 edge, but Port gets a free throw by Kyheem Green and a drive to the hoop by Jordan Major to tie it at 34 each going into the break. Donnell Jackson and John Ivy lead the Eagles with 9 points each. Epps with 12 and Jake Simmons with 11 top the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Oswego State moves into the semis as they defeat New Paltz 73-62.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 21, 2012, 08:39:49 PM

Cortland dusts Plattsburgh 75-60 -- a closer game than indicated. Burgh's R. Williams strikes to open second half for the lead. RDragons get reversal and forge lead of nine points. Stubborn Cards with in 56-54 at 7' mark before J. Winters and B. Manning drain three-pointers to build margin to 10 at 3:31. Stretch to 11 but K. Brooks quickly hits from beyond the arc at 1:43. Captain and lone senior N. Sutedjo takes Winter feed and makes dagger trey for 71-60 edge.
Winter a catylyst once more .......20 points(7x12fg, 3x6 3s), 6 assts. J. Smith with 18 pts(5x10fg, 3x6 3s); B. Manning 12 pts, 6 rebs; K. McMahon 9 pts, 6 rebs. Brooks with 14 pts(5x7fg), 8 rebs. for Cards, J. Perez 10 pts, 3 assts; R. Williams 6 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 08:40:05 PM
Cortland joins the Lakers in the semi-finals as they down Plattsburgh 75-60. Game was closer than the final score as the Cards were only down 56-54 with 7 minutes to go. 8-0 Cortland run feuled by Jesse Winter free throw and 3 ball give Corts a double digit lead. Cards cut it to 68-60 but a trifecta by Nick Sutedjo and free throws down the stretch close out the Cards. Winter with 20 points  Jeremy Smith with 18. Ketema Brooks in his final game as a Cardinal leads Plattsburgh with 14 points and 8 rebounds. John Perez with 10 points for the Cards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 08:41:44 PM
Looks like it was Pete and repeat here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
Brockport up 82-73 over the Bengals with under 2 minutes to go.

Geneseo over Freds 23-20 with 6 minutes left in the 1st half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 08:57:40 PM
Bengals down 82-70 with 2:09 to play have cut it to 86-83 on 2 Jake Simmons free throws with 23 seconds to go. Bengals foul on the inbounds and Port hits 1 of 2 to make it 87-83. Jake misses a three point attempt and Kyheem green grabs the rebound and the Bengals foul Jordan Major. He makes them both for an 89-83 edge and bengals misfire on 1 last attempt. Final score 89-83.

John Ivy with 25 points to lead Brockport. Kyheem Green with 18 and Donnell jackson with 15. Jake Simmons with a valiant effort for the Bengals leads all scorers with 30 points. Nico McLean tosses in 16, while Roderick Epps and Ahmed Nagaya both finish with 13. Senior Norman Simmons in what is probably his last game in a Bengal uniform finishes with a double digit effort of 11 points with 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

Oswego will now take on Brockport if Geneseo beats Fredonia and Cortland will take on Geneseo.

If Fredonia wins then Oswego will play the Blue Devils and Cortland will get Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 09:10:32 PM
At halftime Geneseo leads Fredonia 30-28.  Blue Knights have led throughout the entire 1st half and at one point were up 18-8 with 10:29 to play. Fredonia with 8-0 spurt cuts it to 18-16 and teams in close quarters the rest of the way. Mike Hoy and Connor Fedge with 6 each for the Knights. Julius bryant with 7 for the Devils.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 09:42:08 PM
Geneseo creating some daylight against Fredonia as they lead 53-42 with 2:48 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 10:02:29 PM
Geneseo defeats Fredonia in the one that matters 60-49. Balanced effort from the Blue Knights as all nine players that saw action hit the scoreboard. Connor Fedge with 11, Thomas Decker with 10, Ryan Riefenhauser with 9, Mike Hoy with 8 and Gordon Lyons also with 8, lead the way. Knights with 22 field goals and 16 of them were assisted. Riefenhauer with 8 rebounds.

Fredonia only has 5 players score led by Julius Bryant has was the game's high scorer with 20 points and had a double double as he was also the rebounding leader in the game with 11. Leonard Smith added 10.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 10:10:05 PM
Semifinals are set for Friday night at Max Ziel Gym in Laker Hall.     The top four seeds all advance.

#3 Geneseo vs #2 Cortland   6:00 PM  (I'm guessing)

#4 Brockport  vs  #1 Oswego 8:00 PM (according to the Laker's website.)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 21, 2012, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2012, 08:57:40 PM

Oswego will now take Brockport if Geneseo beats Fredonia and Cortland will take on Geneseo.

If Fredonia wins then Oswego will play the Blue Devils and Cortland will get Brockport.

Just to clarify - SUNYAC basketball does not "re-seed" in the tournament after the quarterfinals. Hockey does, and basketball did at one point, but for the past few years, basketball uses a straight bracket. So once Cortland won, it knew it was going to face either Fredonia or Geneseo.

Of course, the top seeds all held, so that's now a moot point. Cortland vs. Geneseo at 6 p.m. and Oswego vs. Brockport at 8 p.m. Friday at Oswego. There is going to be video for both semifinals and the championship game, live stats for all three games, and Oswego radio for games they play in. Busy weekend in Oswego, especially on Saturday as women's hockey hosts a 1 p.m. ECAC West playoff game, basketball final is at 4 p.m., and men's hockey hosts a SUNYAC semifinal at 7 p.m.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 11:17:13 PM
Oswego' win over New Paltz tonight wasn't as easy as the Lakers hoped it would be. Oswego with early separation but let the Hawks back into the game after they sprinted out to a 29-14 lead with 9:41 left in the half. Once they got that lead, the Lakers had 5 turnovers and 6 misfires in 7 attempts, over the next 8 minutes so that with 1:42 left to play the Hawks had closed to 31-26. Ryan Sheridan then hit an old fashioned 3 point play to boost the lead back to 8 and they traded points to make it 36-28 at the half. Lakers came back out and again opened up a 16 point lead by scoring the first 8 points of the 2nd period. Still up 54-38 with 13:32 left they went 1 for 9 from the field over the next 7 minutes and allowed New Paltz to get right back in the game as the Hawks got it to 58-51. Right on cue though, Hayden Ward scored 5 straight points, Chad Burridge scored 4, and Ward scored  on another inside bucket to bump the lead back to 16, at 69-53 and the Hawks had run out of time. With only 3:23 left to play this game was in the books and a Hawk layup and meaningless 3 pointer by Matt Devine at the buzzer only made it look somewhat respectable. Lakers should have won this game by 25 but got a little sloppy with the lead and let the Hawks hang around.

Laker bigs came up big again. Ward was the game's high scorer and leading rebounder with 25 points and 16 boards. Burrridge was next with 15 points and Chris Gilke added 10. Sean Michele only had 6 points but they came on a pair of three pointers (out of 4 attempts), to continue his torrid shooting from behind the arc. I'm sure he still leads the nation in 3 point shooting percentage. He also added 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

Devine led the Hawks with 22 points and Nick Taldi dropped in 16. Senior Harris Wichard ended his career with the Hawks with 8 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. I'm sure he was hoping his final game would have a better stat line but his career stats were pretty amazing for a guy that was barely 6 feet tall. He amassed 1512 points, and 510 rebounds along with 180 assists. His point total puts him in 5th place all time in the New Paltz record books. Even more amazing to me was his rebounding total (averaged 5.0 per game for his career) which puts him in 8th place all time for the Hawks. New Paltz will certainly miss his sharpshooting abilities next year.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: franelia on February 21, 2012, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2012, 08:57:40 PM

Oswego will now take Brockport if Geneseo beats Fredonia and Cortland will take on Geneseo.

If Fredonia wins then Oswego will play the Blue Devils and Cortland will get Brockport.

Just to clarify - SUNYAC basketball does not "re-seed" in the tournament after the quarterfinals. Hockey does, and basketball did at one point, but for the past few years, basketball uses a straight bracket. So once Cortland won, it knew it was going to face either Fredonia or Geneseo.

Of course, the top seeds all held, so that's now a moot point. Cortland vs. Geneseo at 6 p.m. and Oswego vs. Brockport at 8 p.m. Friday at Oswego. There is going to be video for both semifinals and the championship game, live stats for all three games, and Oswego radio for games they play in. Busy weekend in Oswego, especially on Saturday as women's hockey hosts a 1 p.m. ECAC West playoff game, basketball final is at 4 p.m., and men's hockey hosts a SUNYAC semifinal at 7 p.m.

Thanks Fran, I did not know that.  Or maybe I did and just forgot. ;D I guess I'm showing my age because I remember when they used to re-seed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 22, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
 :'( Well....It was fun while it lasted! 16-2 record with a healthy Justin Mitchell in the line up and 2 - 6 without him! >:(. Thank God he has 1 more year left!

  Best of luck to all 4 semi-finalists. I truly believe that Brockport has what it takes to pull off an upset Friday vs. Oswego ( as they did in the semi's last year). I look at the winner of that game to win the Championship game Sat.

P.s. 2 bids look better than 1 (with Oswego already locking up a seat at the dance)! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2012, 04:04:36 PM
Like the Bears in 04-05, I think the Lakers are on a mission. 

They have 4 quality bigs, and a solid supporting cast.  Michele will keep anyone honest with his long range daggers.

If they sweep the SUNYAC, they will for sure host a pod, if not get a first round bye.

If chalk holds, the NY teams look like Oswego, Hartwick, Hobart, Medaille & Morrisville, would be easy for the Lakers with their huge (3,500 seat) gym to host as long as they are alive.  NYU might get an at large, but would be placed in the Atlantic region IMHO.

If both Oswego and Hartwick finish with 2 in region losses, Oswego beat Ithaca which handed Hartwick one of their two losses.  I'm pretty sure record vs. common opponents is a secondary criteria.  Lakers would go into tournament winners of 16 straight, while Hawks would only have 13 straight.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
New Regional Rankings have been released and nothing has changed from last week. Here's the East Rankings:

The first record is in-region record followed by overall.

East Region
1 Hartwick 22-2 23-2
2 Oswego State 22-2 22-3
3 Hobart 20-4 21-4
4 New York U. 19-5 19-5
5 Medaille 22-2 23-2
6 Nazareth 17-6 17-8

Not showing on this list are the next 2 teams which are Stevens in 7th, 17-6 in Region Record, 19-6 overall and Cortland in 8th, 19-6 in region record, 19-6 overall.


Here's a link to the complete list of all regions;

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Bear,
NYU has a must win game coming up at Brandeis on Saturday. If they lose that game they will have lost 4 of their last 5 games and I'm not sure they get an at large bid with that finish. Nazareth or Stevens might be the beneficiary of an NYU loss if all the chalks hold service. If Hartwick, Oswego, Hobart, and Medaille all get Pool A bids and NYU loses, then the winner of the Stevens-Naz game on Friday night could be sitting at the table for the first round of Pool C bids. That wouldn't guarantee them a Pool C however because whoever the East representative is among (again assuming the chalks all win) Naz, NYU, Stevens or Cortland they won't stack up very well against the leading contenders from all the other regions. If the chalks all win it's conceivable that no East Region team gets a Pool C bid. It will probably be determined by how many chalks, not just in our region, but in all the other regions as well, suffer upsets and  steal a Pool C bid. With only 19 Pool C bids available if 4 or 5 chalks go down and take a Pool C bid the East's chances of getting another team to the Dance will diminish considerably. The Northeast region, will probably get 5 or 6 Pool C bids with all the strong teams they have this year. The West, Midwest, and South are sure to get multiple Pool C's as well. Our best chances of getting more teams in the NCAA's is having Oswego and Hartwick lose in the playoffs.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 06:04:29 PM
Semifinals tonight in Oswego:

Geneseo State vs Cortland State 6:00 PM

Teams split regular season meetings with each winning on the other's homecourt. Cortland's loss came during the team's only 2 game losing streak of the year and happened after the long layoff over the holidays. Red Dragons only had 2 more losses the rest of the year and those were both to the Lakers. Geneseo hoping they came repeat that January upset. Oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons an 8 point favorite and I think that might be too much. This game should go down to the wire but I think that Cortland will move on. Final score Red Dragons 66 Blue Knights 61.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 06:30:21 PM
Cortland leads Geneseo 33-29 at the break. Jeremy Smith lighting up Max Ziel Gym as he has at least 19 points at the break. No livestats so info is limited, but Smith has been knocking down three pointers left and right.  Brian Manning with 8 points and Jesse Winter with 6. No other Cortland player has scored. Smith is 5 of 7 from 3 point range, Manning is 2x4 from downtown and Jesse Winter has made his only 3 point attempt. Cortland is 8x14 from beyond the arc.
Jordan Jones leads Geneseo with 8 points. Connor Fedge and Thomas Decker have 5 each. Blue Knights are 3x5 from 3 point range.

Livestats has now been activated and shows the halftime summary but I'm willing to bet they won't work throughout much of the 2nd half. Oswego has had a problem with their livestats for the past several weeks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 06:53:31 PM
Cortland moves out to a 10 point lead 44-34 early in the 2nd half. Jeremy Smith with 2 more triples in this half and now has 7 for the game and needs 1 more to tie the SUNYAC tournament record for 3's in a game.

As predicted livestats are not working.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 07:01:32 PM
Ryan Riefenhauser leads the Blue Knights back as his layup has just completed a 10-0 Geneseo run to tie the game at 44. Riefenhauser has just been hit with an offensive foul, his 3rd personal of the game. Cortland has gone cold from the field missing their last 7 attempts. (I think)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 07:18:41 PM

Only 1:56 left to play, time out on the floor, and Cortland leads 61-56. Jeremy Smith has hit an 8th 3 pointer to tie the conference tournament record for most 3 pointers in a game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 07:23:43 PM
2nd Semifinal

Brockport State at Oswego State 8:00 PM

Oswego looks to erase a bad memory as they take on the last SUNYAC team to own a win over them. It's been 364 days since Oswego lost to Brockport in the semifinals of last years tournament by a score of 74-70. Since then the Lakers have reeled off 19 straight wins over conference opponents. Brockport looking to repeat their tournament run of 2008-09 when they won the crown as the 8th seed. Golden Eagles come into the game on a roll having won 7 0f their last 8 games, including two big wins over Buffalo State. Pointspread has the Lakers favored by 8. Oswego has won by 15 and 14 points in their 2 meetings this year and I think they win this game as well. Laker bigs just too much too handle. Oswego 76 Brockport 69. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 07:26:11 PM
Jeremy Smith just hit another 3 pointer to make the score 64-57 with 51 seconds left in the game. Smith now holds the single game tournament record for most 3 pointers in a game. I believe he just tied the SUNYAC record for most 3's in any game regular season or tournament. Smith is 9 for 12 from downtown tonight. Jake Simmons had 9 three pointers in a game earlier this year, I believe.

66-59 with 25 ticks left. Smith with 2 free throws now has 35 points for the night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
Cortland wins 68-59 over Geneseo. I was pretty close with my score of 66-61.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 07:47:35 PM

Cortland behind J. Smith 37 pts moves to final. RDragons 15x30 from beyond the arc and 23x48 overall. Smith unconscious at 12x16fg and 9x12 3s. B. Manning 14 pts(5x13fg, 4x10 3s), 6 rebs; J. Winter 8 pts, 7 assts. Cort 7x14ft but Smith 4x4 in final minute. Geneseo 23x52fg, 5x8 3s, 8x10ft. J. Jones 13 pts(5x14fg); M. Curry 12 pts; R. Riefenhauser 11 pts, 12 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 08:05:47 PM
Snowing pretty good here in the Burgh and I have to leave the high speed computer at my office and travel to my house where I can only get dial up. Counting on jdex to keep me informed on the Oswego-Brockport game. I know I can't get the video and will probably not be able to pull up livestats, but they haven't been working anyhow. So keep those updates coming jdex.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:18:13 PM

Just logged on ......busy night in FL. .......Oh boy, see no video or livestats from Oswego!!   But streaming Oswego site at this moment shows Oswego 37, Brockport 36 at about 15' mark of seond half .......... Anyone else out there????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 09:22:55 PM
Live stats just moved after being stuck on the 15 minute 37-36 score for about 15 minutes. Now 47-44 with 9:05 to play but I'm sure that's already outdated as that hasn't moved in several minutes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
Okay .........Oswego 47, Bport 44 with 8 minutes left .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:29:26 PM

Oswego on 11-1 run take 54-45 lead with 6 minutes left. Lakers by as many as nine in first half. Bport's Legister hoop provides Eagles one point lead in second half prior to OSt resurgence ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:33:57 PM

Brockport within 56-51 .............just over 4' left ....Ward sitting with 4 fouls but about to return. J. Ivy with 16 points cuts Oswego lead to 56-53
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:36:13 PM

Bport misses front side of 1 and 1 FT, but rebounds ......still down 56-53 ......3:10 left ..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:39:49 PM

Bport's Klein misses tying trey ....Ward to FT line and hits a pair ......58-55 Oswego ........ under 2' ......Bport turnover at 1:40 ........OSt TO ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:43:09 PM

Burridge blocke ......shot clock violation ......Bport ball approching a minute. Ivy misses. OSt ball up three. Sheridan nails three as clock winds down ......61-55 in final seconds. Sheridan 13 pts.  .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:45:46 PM

Bport misses trey ......Oswego rebounds .......Sheridan FT pair ............Bport stick back 63-55 .......OSt to the line .......this game will go to Lakers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:47:34 PM

Oswego  goes to final  .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 09:50:05 PM

Oswego 64, Brockport 57
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2012, 09:58:25 PM
Oswego holds off the Golden Eagles 64-57 to avenge last year's tournament loss. Lakers led by Chad Burridge with a double double of 14 points and 13 rebounds. Ryan Sheridan with 15 points, Conor Monaghan with 11, Hayden Ward with 9 points and 6 rebounds. Eagles led by John Ivy with 16 points, Stephen Sisson with 12 and Kyheem Greene with 11.

Brockport ends the season with a 14-13 overall record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2012, 10:20:12 PM

Oswego by 33-27 at the break but quickly sees a Brockport revival. Eagles get couple of ties, then take 44-43 lead at 10:09 on L. Legister bucket. C. Burridge rights Lakers 9:46 and they march to nine point lead. Eagles rumble back to 56-55 at 2:56 when D. Jackson bags a layup. H. Ward begins Oswego march to the wire with a pair of free throws. R. Sheridan delivers big triple from the corner.

Sheridan 15 pts(4x8 3s); Burridge 14 pts, 13 rebs in 38'; C. Monaghan 11 pts; H. Ward 9 pts, 6 rebs, 4pf that lead to much sitting time and 26' on the floor. Lakers 21x53fg, 9x21 3s, 13x23ft. Bport's J. Ivy 16 pts(6x13fg), 5pf in 25'; S. Sisson 13 pts; K. Green 11 pts, 6 rebs; Jackson 6 rebs; D. Klein 6 assts. Eeages 22x53fg, 4x14 3s, 9x15ft. Oswego 42-33 off the glass
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
SUNYAC Championship Cortland at Oswego 4:00 PM

For the first time in a number of years the top two teams in the conference  will square off in the Championship contest. Oswego is looking for a perfect ending to the SUNYAC season as they look to repeat the success that Plattsburgh State had when they completed an unbeaten regular season and tournament run in 2007-08. Cortland looking to keep their season alive as they have no chance of getting a Pool C bid to the NCAA's should they lose today's game. Laker's on the other hand are a lock to get into the Dance whether they win or lose this game. Lakers own 2 wins over Cortland this year and the one at Oswego in January was a thriller that featured a big Laker comback in the final seconds. The 2nd game ealier this month had Oswego in control early as they won by an 84-65 margin. I think this game will be closer to what transpired in the first meeting between these teams. Oddsmakers have the Lakers favored by 7 points. I think the Lakers complete their season sweep and come away with a 75-70 win.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2012, 04:38:15 PM
Oswego opens up a 7-0 lead to start the game but Cortland comes back with 12 unanswered points and ultimately a 17-2 run to move in front 17-9. Lakers play catch up for most of the half until a Chad Burridge jumper and 4 straight Hayden Ward free throws finally put Oswego in front 25-21 with 38 seconds left. Jesse Winter counters with a basket at the buzzer to make it a 25-23 halftime edge for the Lakers. Hayden Ward with 8 points, Ryan Sheridan with 6 points and Burridge with 4 lead Oswego.

Winter with 6 points Jeremy Smith with 5 and Kevin McMahon with 4 points lead Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2012, 05:18:57 PM
50-44 Oswego with the lead and 4:38 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2012, 05:23:40 PM
Lakers lead 55-50 with only 1:35 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 25, 2012, 05:47:00 PM

Cortland with no answers for Lakers' H. Ward and C. Burridge ......Men among boys when they work inside, which midway through the final half allowed OSt to take control .....for some reason Burridge (probably when he hit a three) desired to play out front after ruling the inside. But the pair made Corts big guys look silly. Ward 24 pts, Burridge 18. Free throwing solid down the stretch for OSt. Ward and S. Michele did the job. Lakers 22x26 FTs. Cortland actually missed chances to tighten matters with about 5:30 left, and RDragons finished 1x7 at the line. Rebounding also went Oswego way in final period after Corts held first half edge. J. Smith 13 pts for CSt, J. Winter 11, B. Manning 11 pts and 5pf, K. McMahon 10 pts and 5pf.  Congrats to Lakers .....truly the best team throughout the campaign
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 25, 2012, 05:53:39 PM

Figured Magic would have had it .......Oswego 66, Cortland 57 ........  Lakers 53-50  as H. Hefele '3' gives Oswego pause for concern. Even more when B. Manning launches tying bid. He misses. H. Ward delivers inside for Lakers, who build 59-50 lead. Corts twice made approach to five points ........foiled time after time by Oswego FTs

OSt 20x42fg, 4x14 3s, 22x26ft .......CSt 23x58fg, 8x27 3s, 1x7ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2012, 05:54:13 PM
Oswego wins the SUNYAC Championship with a 66-57 win over Cortland. The Lakers win their first ever SUNYAC Tournamnet Title, and grab the automatic bid into the NCAA tournament. There's a good chance they may get to host a first round pod as they did last year.

Chad Burridge was chosen as the Tournament MVP. The SUNYAC All Tournament team consist of the following players:

John Ivy Brockport State
Jeremy Smith Cortland State
Jesse Winter Cortland State
Hayden Ward Oswego State
Chad Burridge Oswego State   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 26, 2012, 10:31:50 AM
Geneseo's Ryan Riefenhauser also made the all-tournament team. The complete team is:

Chad Burridge, Oswego (MVP)
Hayden Ward, Oswego
Jeremy Smith, Cortland
Jesse Winter, Cortland
Ryan Riefenhauser, Geneseo
John Ivy, Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2012, 04:28:39 PM
Thanks Fran,

I got the players off the video feed but must have missed Ryan's announcement. He must have been the 1st name called and Ivy was the first name I heard.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 27, 2012, 12:27:41 AM
I did the same thing originally. He must have been mentioned first - I didn't hear the name either. I found out from Oswego's SID shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
The East region comes out smelling roses as Hartwick, Hobart and NYU all recieve a Pool C bid to the dance. The following eight teams from the East Region are all dancing:

Oswego State--Ithaca--Skidmore--Medaille--Morrisville State--Hobart--Hartwick--NYU

Oswego State as I thought gets to host a first round pod with their opponent being the Endicott Gulls who won the Commonwealth Coast Conference Championship in the Northeast Region and got a Pool A bid.

Medaille, winners of the AMCC conference will take on Eastern Connecticut who won the Little East Conference from the Northeast Region, in the other  game at the Oswego site. So all four teams in the Oswego pod were Pool A winners

Hartwick in a bit of a surprise also gets to host a first round pod as they will take on Farmingdale State from the Atlantic Region. The Rams were the winners of the Skyline conference championship.

The other game at Hartwick will feature the #3 ranked team in the country the MIT Engineers. MIT was the champion of the NEWMAC conference and they will take on the winners of the Liberty League, the Skidmore Thoroughbreds.

Ithaca who won the Empire 8 championship will travel to Staten Island to take on the Saten Island Dolphins,from the Atlantic region and winners of the CUNYAC championship. The other game in that pod will have two Northeast Region schools squaring off as Rhode Island College takes on Salem State. Rhode Island College from the Little East Conference received a Pool C bid, while Salem State won the MASCAC championship. 

Hobart will travel to Radnor Pa. home of the #6 ranked Cabrini Cavaliers. The Statesmen will face off against Ohio Wesleyan University who received an at large bid from the Great Lakes Region. The Battling Bishops finished in third place in the North Coast Athletic Conference and bring a 20-7 record into the dance. Host Cabrini will play Castleton State who won the North Atlantic Coference Championship, in the Northeast Region.

NYU a Pool C winner will host the Misericordia Cougars in a first round game. The Cougars, winners of the Middle Atlantic Conference-Freedom are making their first trip ever to the NCAA tournament. The winner of this game will travel to Amherst for a 2nd round matchup. The Lord Jeffs were one of the two teams that received a first round bye. (The other team was Virginia Wesleyan)

The Morrisville State Mustangs, winners of the NEAC championship are making their first appearance in the NCAA tournamnet and will travel to the Middlebury Panthers and face the 4th ranked team in the country.

I don't see a lot of wins here for the East Region. Oswego is a double digit favorite in their matchup against Endicott. NYU will be favored by about 8 points against Misericordia and Hartwick is a slight favorite (5 points) against Farmingdale State.  Morrisville State is a 25 point underdog, while Medaille, and Skidmore are both about 10 point underdogs. Ithaca (+7) and Hobart (+3) won't be favored either but upset possibilities are there.   Hope the teams from the East have good luck at the Dance. It would be nice to get multiple teams into the sweet 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2012, 03:25:57 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 has been released and Oswego State remains at #14. Their point total increased from 274 to 307.

Hartwick with their loss in the E8 semifinal fell from #21 to the Others Receiving Votes category. The Hawks would be #26 as their point total fell from 111 to 61.

Hobart after their loss in the Liberty League Final fell out of the poll completely.

NYU picked up a few more points in the ORV category going from 8 points to 22 and would be #30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 28, 2012, 09:54:40 AM

Cortland hosting Alfred on Wednesday eve in ECAC Upstate championship game ...........Some teams enjoy extending seasons even in an 'NIT' context. Evidently, most do not, at least in '12, as evidenced by lack of interest in ECAC Upstate postseason tourney. Cortland and Alfred, that's it. Some regions have six, seven teams continuing this week in ECACs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 29, 2012, 07:43:33 PM

Cortland 33, Alfred 30 at close of opening half. B. Manning 10 pts for RDragons, who are 1x12 in threes. J. Parker 12 for Saxons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 29, 2012, 07:51:40 PM

All-SUNYAC teams --

School Pos. Yr. Ht. Hometown/Previous School
Chad Burridge *!+> Oswego F Sr. 6-7 Hannibal, NY/Hannibal
Kyheem Green + Brockport F Sr. 6-5 Huntington Station, NY/Walt Whitman
Jake Simmons *#+ Buffalo State G Jr. 6-0 Rochester, NY/School of the Arts
Hayden Ward + Oswego F Jr. 6-6 Montauk, NY/East Hampton
Jesse Winter + Cortland G Jr. 5-11 Rockville Centre, NY/South Side

Second Team
Name School Pos. Yr. Ht. Hometown/Previous School
Julius Bryant Fredonia F Sr. 6-5 Buffalo, NY/Hutch Tech
Matt Devine New Paltz F Jr. 6-4 Manalapan, NJ/Freehold Township
Sean Michele Oswego G Sr. 5-10 East Rochester, NY/East Rochester
Justin Mitchell + Buffalo State F Jr. 6-5 Buffalo, NY/Bishop Timon-St. Jude
Ryan Riefenhauser Geneseo F Jr. 6-3 Dobbs Ferry, NY/Dobbs Ferry

Third Team
Name School Pos. Yr. Ht. Hometown/Previous School
Connor Fedge Geneseo G So. 6-1 Bellport, NY/Bellport
Brian Manning Cortland G Jr. 6-3 Elmira, NY/Southside
Curtis Pierce + Potsdam G/F Jr. 6-3 Brooklyn, NY/George Westinghouse Voc
Harris Wichard + New Paltz G Sr. 6-0 Merrick, NY/Bellmore JFK
Gerald Williams + Brockport G Sr. 6-0 Rochester, NY/Charlotte

2011-2012 Player of the Year: Chad Burridge, Oswego
2011-2012 Rookie of the Year: Frankie Kelly, Oneonta
Coach of the Year: Jason Leone, Oswego
+ 2010-11 All-Conference > 2010-11 Player of the Year
*2009-10 All-Conference # 2009-10 Rookie of the Year
! 2008-09 Rookie of the Year
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 29, 2012, 08:49:55 PM

Cortland over Alfred 76-69 in ECAC Upstate title game, RDragons finding the hoop from long range in the second half. Just 1x12 from past the arc in the first 20 minutes, Corts 8x17 in the final including back-to-back from J. Smith and J. Winter providing essentially winning kick. They came after J. Parker brought Alfs within 65-64 at 3:40. Dragons margin 72-64 at 1:02.
Alfred held 57-54 edge at 7:29 on S. Curran trey which at the time had Saxons 9x18 in threes. Winter soon responded for CSt for 59-57 advantage. Parker tied it at 59 following T. Costello block at 5:34. H. Hefele steal created his layup and accompanying FT, but Costello nailed a trey at 4:29 for 62-62 tie. His FT seconds later had Alfs up by one. Smith sent Corts ahead for good from beyond the arc.
Smith 19 pts(5x11fg, 4x8 3s); Winter 16 pts(5x11fg, 4x7 3s), 5 assts, 4 rebs; Hefele 16 pts(6x16fg), 6 rebs, 5 assts; B. Manning 12 pts, 8 rebs, 5 assts; K. McMahon 6 pts, 5 rebs. Cortland 27x61fg, 9x29 3s, 13x17ft. Alfred paced by Parker's 19 pts(6x19fg, 4x9 3s), 6 assts, 3 rebs; M. Branche 13 pts(5x6fg, 2x2 3s); D. Lewis 9 rebs. Saxons 25x55fg, 10x23 3s, 9x14ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2012, 03:52:59 AM
I was going to post my All Conference selections on Tuesday but had a death in the family and was out of town on Tuesday and Wednesday. I see the All Conference team has been released and can't argue with any of the choices. I had the same five players on my first team and 2nd team as the actual team and only had 1 difference on the 3rd team as I had John Perez from Plattsburgh State on that team in place of one of the other players.

I was going to go with Co-Players of the Year with Chad Burridge and Hayden Ward sharing that honor. Their statistics were very close but Hayden actually led the Lakers in scoring in 14 games to 10 for Chad. Hayden also led the team in rebounding in 13 games to 11 for Chad. Chad's point total was 447 to 440 for Hayden. Hayden had 251 rebounds to 199 for Chad, while Chad had 60 blocked shots to 10 for Hayden. They both had 30 steals. Chad earned the defensive edge between the two players and opposing defenses were focused more on stopping Chad which opened things up for Hayden. I just felt that both players contributed so much and when Chad was getting double teamed and struggling to score it seemed like Hayden was always there to pick up the slack. It was tough for me to choose between them this year so I felt they both deserved that honor. I knew of course that the SUNYAC wouldn't give Co-Players of the Year. I also knew that it would be Chad that won it, since he was the reigning Player of the Year and did nothing to lose that title again this year.

Chad was also named the SUNYAC Player of the Week this week which came as no surprise, since he was the MVP of the SUNYAC Tournament this past week.

Rookie of the Year was clearly Frankie Kelly and though Coach Leone had the most talent to work with, running the table in the YAC  certainly merits the honor he was accorded. Heck of a first year in the Conference for him.   

Congratulations to everyone that received these honors. Hopefully more post season awards will follow and Oswego makes a nice run in the NCAA's.

I think Eastern Connecticut will be a tough matchup for the Lakers if both teams win their 1st round game. In fact I just looked at that matchup in Massey's ratings and he shows it to be... Oswego 63  Eastern Connecticut 61. If the Lakers do get to the Sweet 16 they most likely will face Cabrini which would be another 1 or 2 point projected game. Middlebury would probably await the winner of that contest. If Cabrini, Oswego, Middlebury and William Paterson all advance to the Sweet 16 it will be intersting to see who gets to host the Regional. I'm guessing the NCAA might go with Middlebury since they were bypassed last year because St. Mary's was over 500 miles to Middlebury. This year mileage won't be a problem for any of the 4 schools I projected to the sweet 16. Cabrini or Willie Pat would actually involve the least amount of travel between the 4 schools as they are only a couple of hours away from each other, but I think the NCAA will award the regional to Middlebury, providing they advance that far.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 01, 2012, 12:50:57 PM
Magic - I think I agree with you re: Middlebury.  They are in session, Oswego leaves on spring break on the 9th, and Cabrini is on spring break through the 11th.  Willie P is in session, but hotel rooms are hard to find near NYC this time of year.

I think if chalk holds, Middlebury will host the sectionals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
Friday's games:

Endicott Gulls at Oswego State Lakers  7:30

Lakers try and make it further this year than they did last year. Good news is they get to host again. More good news is they get a first round matchup that they should win. Oddsmakers have made Oswego a 17 point favorite against the Gulls and that seems like a lot of points for a tournament game. Endicott brings a lot of offense into this game as they average 77.8 ppg and have all 5 starters averaging double figures. They also have plenty of size in the starting lineup with 6'9" Andre Makris and 6'8" Eric Callo. They have 3 backup bigs that go 6'6", 6'7", and 6'8". They're also fairly deep as they have a 10 man rotation that all average double digit minutes.
I know they play in a league that isn't as competitive as the SUNYAC but I don't think this team will be the pushovers that the large margin suggests. I think the Lakers win but I'm going with a 75-67 final. 

Posted this earlier on the Liberty League board.

Skidmore takes on MIT tonight at Hartwick.

I think the Thoroughbreds will find the going tough tonight against the Engineers. Posted line has MIT winning by 12 and I hope that Skidmore doesn't lose by any more than that, but lose they will. MIT has too many weapons and I think they come away with 73-59 win. I hope I'm wrong on this one though.

Hobart vs Ohio Wesleyan

Think the Statesmen can win this game but have a feeling that the Battling Bishops will pull out the victory. Pointspread favors Ohio Wesleyan by 1. I'm going with the Bishops in a close one 72- 68. Hope I'm wrong on this one as well. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 06:38:34 PM
Farmingdale State Rams at Hartwick Hawks  7:30 PM

Hartwick is a 5 point favorite in this game and will have to contend with the Rams 7'0" AJ Matthews who averages 22.4 ppg and 16.6 rpg. Rams like to push the ball and average 77.6 ppg. I hope the Hawks big three of Sudderly, Blazek, and Ryder can get it done tonight. Rams handled Brockport earlier in the season 81-70, while the Hawks struggled against celler dweller Oneonta. That tells me to pick the Rams but I'm going with Hartwick to win this one 73-70.

Medaile Mavericks vs Eastern Connecticut Warriors at Oswego

This game started at 5:30 and it's been underway for an hour and Medaile is losing 37-28  with 14 minutes left in the game. Last night I went on the LEC board and predicted that Medaille would lose by double digits. I think it will be 71-60.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 07:10:59 PM
Ithaca Bombers at Staten Island Dolphins  7:30 PM

The Dolphins are favored to win this game by 10 points and I think that's probably the way it'll end up. Staten Island owns a win over Stevens Tech who beat Ithaca twice this season in E8 conference play. The Dolphins also handled Medgar Evers twice by large margins (27 pts and 12 points) and Medgar Evers handed Oswego 1 of it's 3 losses. Which Ithaca team will show up? The one that beat Hartwick twice and Nazareth 3 times or the one that got beat by 1-24 Elmira, giving the Soaring Eagles their only win of the season. I think this will be a high scoring affair and I'm taking the home team to pick up the win. Staten Island 85 Ithaca 78

Morrisville State Mustangs at Middlebury Panthers  7:30 PM

The Mustangs will get a rude welcome to their first foray into the NCAA tournament as they tangle with the Panthers. Oddsmakers have made this the 2nd biggest pointspread of the 1st round games as the Mustangs are 23 point underdogs. They'll be lucky to keep it that close but Panther Coach Jeff Brown will bring in his reserves early if the margin gets large. Even his reserves could beat the Mustangs by 23. Panthers take this game 90-62.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 07:11:56 PM
Final score has MIT defeating Skidmore 62-55.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 09:04:15 PM
Oswego State getting manhandled by Endicott 56-43 with 11:44 left to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 09:10:37 PM
Oswego has got it to single digits at 58-50 with 9 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 09:19:16 PM
Oswego down 62-56 with 4:52 left. Lakers are fighting back. Come on Guys.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 09:37:40 PM
Oswego goes to the free throw line down 66-64 with 1 minute to go. They make them both and tie up the game. Endicott turns the ball over and Oswego has a chance to win the game. They go to Biurridge who misses the shot but gets in a scramble for the ball and a jump ball is called with Oswego having the arrow.  11 seconds left and a time out called by Oswego. Endicott now calls a time out. Oswego works inside and misses the shot. Endicott comes down and is called for a charging foul. with 5 seconds left. Oswego inbounds the ball to Hayden Ward and he is fouled with no time on the clock. He goes to the line and misses both free throws and the game is headed for overtime. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 09:47:23 PM
Oswego up 70-68 with 48 seconds to go and the ball. Burridge goes tyo the hoop and slams dunks it for a 4 point lead. Endicott comes down and hits a three but it's too little too late. Final 72-71 Burridge with 30 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2012, 10:10:20 PM
Chad Burridge puts the Lakers on his back and bails out his twin tower, Hayden Ward who missed two free throws with no time left in regulation when he could have won the game. Endicott with their huge big guys found out that you have to play for 45 minutes sometimes. Burridge and Ward, who had a huge rebound late in overtime, did just that, as the Lakers pulled victory from the jaws of defeat. Burridge scored 30 points including all 6 points scored by the Lakers in OT. Livestats screwed up again and has yet to show anything that happened in OT but I know Burridge ended up with 30 points, at least 8 rebounds and 2 blocks. Ward had 18 points, 14 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Sean Michele had at 19 points, 5 rebounds, and went 4-9 from downtown after a slow start of 2 for 7 from long range. The rest of the entire Laker team only scored 5 points. Talk about your Big Three!

Lakers didn't like it when I posted that they were getting manhandled by the Gulls. They sure showed me!!! ;D Way to come come back guys. Now go get one tomorrow night and get to the Sweet 16.

Mr. and Mrs. Burridge get to see Chad play at least one more time. If the Lakers win tomorrow you might be back up in my neck of the woods next weekend cause I think Middlebury might host the next round. ;)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 12:39:22 AM
NCAA scores.

Oswego state 72  Endicott 71 In Overtime
I said this team wouldn't be a pushover and I predicted a closer score than the 17 point spread. I had it 75-67 Lakers. Not too bad, but closer than I wanted it to be.

Hobart 64 Ohio Wesleyan 60
Thought it would be close and it was. Glad Hobart was the winner even though I had the Bishops winning 72-68. I had the 4 point spread right. ;D

NYU 84 Misericordia 65
Was pretty sure that NYU would win this as they were favored by 8 to 10 points. I never predicted a score.

MIT 62 Skidmore 55
Glad that the Thoroughbreds didn't get embarassed like they did last year by Amherst. Didn't expect them to win as I had it 73-59 but they kept it closer.

Middlebury 75 Morrisville 49
Surprised that this margin wasn't bigger as the Panthers enjoyed a big height advantage. Mustangs were only out rebounded 40-37 though. Middlebury did cover the 23 point spread. I thought they would score more and had it 90 to 62

Farmingdale State 98 Hartwick 88 In Overtime
Hawks let this get away. Up by 10 at the break and as much as 13 in the 2nd half they let the Rams back in it and missed a shot in their final possession of regulation that sent it to OT. Up by 5 with only 2:24 to go in OT, they once again couldn't hold the lead. With the score tied the Rams hit a big 3 with a minute to go and Hartwick turned it over on their next trip down the court. Forced to foul the Hawks made  the final score larger than it should have been, when they turned it over on their next two possessions as well. I had them winning this game 73-70. My research told me to take the Rams but I wanted to root for Hartwick. Seven footer AJ Matthews had a huge game for Farmingdale State with 33 points and 19 rebounds, but the Hawks Jared Sudderly only 6'6" had a career high 40 points with 17 rebounds. 

Staten Island 98 Ithaca 73
I though the Bombers could keep this closer and they did for the first 25 minutes or so. The Dolphins started to pull away and got up by 15 with about 10 minutes left to play. Closest the Bombers could get was 11. They were jacking up 3 pointers and missing in the last 5 minutes and that led to the final 25 point margin. I had them losing but only 85-78, which would have been closer if they hadn't thrown up 37 three point attempts. (They had 25 attempts from inside the arc)

Eastern Connecticut 66 Medaille 51
Pretty close to what I thought would be the final margin. I had it 71-60. Medaille hung with them for a long time and was only down by 31-24 at the break. They were still only down 7 with 12 minutes to go but Eastern extended the lead to double digits and the Mavericks could get no closer than 10 points.

So we go from eight teams down to three, but all three teams will face tough matchups tomorrow night. I think Oswego is the best chance our region has for a win as the game with Eastern Connecticut is a tossup. The other 2 teams NYU and Hobart will be up against it as they tackle Amherst and Cabrini respectively.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 03, 2012, 02:02:07 AM
What great game between Lakers and Endicott.  Once again Lakers fierce rally snatches victory from the jaws of defeat.  No way did it look like the Lakers could win that game with 9 minutes left but they did. Burridge certainly made a strong statement for All-American status with that game.  I was so surprised that Endicott did such a poor job of forcing him away from the middle.  I can't count the number of times Chad threw in that little jump hook going into the lane. Just a fabulous game. Hope the Lakers can regroup and take on a very tough E Conn squad. It would be nice to see that team in the sweet 16! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 06:03:24 PM
Three East Region Teams in action tonight.

NYU Violets at Amherst Lord Jeffs  6:00 PM

The Violets take on the #2 ranked team in the country tonight and the oddsmakers have made them a 7 point underdog. NYU can pull off the upset here but will have to put the clamps on Amherst's floor leader Aaron Toomey. Toomey leads the club in scoring with 17.1 ppg and averages nearly 5 assists per game. The problem is the Lord Jeffs come at you with 3 outstanding guards as Willy Workman is the 2nd leading scorer on the team (11.7 ppg) and is also their leading rebounder (6.4 rpg). Taylor Barrisse is right behind Workman with 10.7 points per game and is their main 3 point threat going 75 for 157 from downtown (.478%) Between the 3 of them they shoot 85% from the line. Toomey gets to the line a lot as he's 160 for 177 for the year. Their main bigs are 6'9" Peter Kaasila, 6'6" David Waller and 6'7" Jeff Holmes, who comes in off the bench. The three guards are their main scoring options but their big men are steady and all three of them have led the team in scoring in separate games this year. The Violets will counter with their inside game led by 6'8" Andy Stein (16.2 ppg, 6.5 rpg) and 6'8" Carl Yaffe (14.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg). They also start 6'6" Max Wein (6.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg). All three of these guys can step out and hit the 3 ball as they combined for 71 x 180 from behind the arc. (40%). Their starting guards are Kyle Stockmal (14.5 ppg, 4'1 rpg, 3.7 assists per game) and Ryan Tana (7.9 ppg, 3.9 assists per game). This pair can also fire them up from beyond the arc as they have made 102 x 211 (49%).

The teams have two common opponents as Amherst beat Hamilton (also in their conference) twice by 17 and 20 points. NYU played Hamilton back in December and beat them by 37. Amherst suffered one of their only 2 losses at Brandeis, also in December, by a 76-61 margin. NYU played Brandeis twice (conference foe) and split with them, losing by 3 at home and winning on the road by 2. This leads me to believe that this game could go either way. I usually favor the team that has better guard play though and I think that's Amherst. (Plus Toomey and Workman are on my NCAA Fantasy League Team and I need them to advance to have any chance of winning) So I taking the Lord Jeffs in this one by a 73-68 margin.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 07:05:14 PM
Eastern Connecticut Warriors at Oswego State Lakers 7:00 PM

The Lakers with new life after their great escape last night. Can they take advantage and move on to the sweet 16 against an Eastern Connecticut team that won, arguably, the toughest conference in the country? The Warriors won the Little East Conference's regular season crown and then gained their entry into the NCAA tournament by winning the LEC tournament championship. The LEC sent 3 teams to the dance this year, which is more than the NESCAC league sent. Eastern Connecticut and Oswego have no common opponents but in looking over their records I found that Keene State from the LEC beat St. Lawrence 75-54. SLU opened Oswego's season by handing the Lakers one of their 3 losses. Eastern played Keene State 3 times and beat them twice. Eastern also beat York (NY) by a large margin 77-52. York had beaten Medgar Evers, 74-71. Medgar Evers was another team that beat the Lakers, 73-68. That bit of info, along with the fact that the LEC had 3 teams all win their opening round games last night and they had 4 teams that were ranked in the Top 25 during the course of the season. Many people felt that Keene State should have been in th NCAA tournament as well as they were the team to topple undefeated Middlebury from their #1 ranking back on January 31st.

I'm really torn about a prediction here as I want to root for the Lakers but I really think that Eastern Connecticut will win this game. The pointspread has it a close contest with the Warriors favored by 2 points. I'm going with the Lkaers despite what my research tells me and hope the home crowd will help pull them through another tough game. Lakers win 66-64. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
Hobart Statesmen at Cabrini Cavaliers  7:00 PM

Not a lot of time for this prediction but think that the Statesmen's season will come to an end tonight. Cabrini's Cory Lemons and Aaron Walton-Moss will be too much too handle for Hobart. Pointspread has Cabrini favored by 2 points but I think they win by more than that. Hope I'm wrong but I think this one will be 85-76 in favor of the Cavaliers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 07:29:16 PM
Oswego State had a 19-17 lead but the Warriors have now run off 10 straight points to take a 27-19 lead with 4:13 left in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 07:41:44 PM
Oswego trails Eastern Connecticut 36-26 at the half. The Warrior's Nick Nedwick hits a 3 pointer at the buzzer that banks in off the glass. It was the 2nd 3 in the period that Eastern banked home. Pure luck. Chris Robitaille leads the Warriors with 10 points and Nedwick has 9. Chad Burridge leads Oswego with 8 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 07:58:45 PM
Amherst rolls over NYU by an 80-56 score. Lord Jeffs went on a 12-4 run at the end of the 1st half to go up by 12 at the break 40-28. NYU cut the lead to 8 early in the 2nd half on 2 occasions but the 2nd time Amherst's Aaron Toomey hit a jumper and followed that up with a triple to open up a 15 point lead. 2 more three pointer's followed on the Lord Jeff's next 2 possessions and the lead ballooned to 21. It grew to 25 and NYU never got closer than 17 the rest of the game. I said the guard play would determine the winner in this game and Aaron Toomey just took over for Amherst. He had 18 points at halftime and finished with 34 points, 5 assists 2x5 from 3 point range and 10x11 from the line. Deadly there as usual. He was the only Amherst player in double figures and they scored 80 points. Don't see that too often. Willy Workman and Taylor Barisse were next in the scoring column for Amherst with 8 points each and Workman led the team in rebounds as usual with 9. I'm happy because Toomey gave me 40 points for my fantasy team and Workman gave me 20. ;D

I had the final score much closer than the actual final but thought that NYU could keep up with Amherst offensively. The Violets end their season with a 21-6 final record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
Oswego making a comback now only trail 42-38 with 10:23 left to play as Chad Burridge just hit another 3 pointer. C'mon Lakers.

Burridge makes another 3 pointer to make it 44-43.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 08:21:03 PM
Three Hayden Ward free throws have given Oswego the lead at 50-49 with 5:20 to go. Burridge once again carrying the Lakers on his back with 24 points. Ward has 6.


Lakers now up 52-51 with 3:02 left to play.

Lakers still up 52-51 with 1:57 to play. Hayden Ward on the line for a 1&1 misses the front end. East Conn's Nedwick scores and gets fouled. He goes to the line and completes the 3 point play. Oswego down 54-52. Lakers come down and Burridge misses a three pointer. East Conn with the ball and a time out with 58 seconds left. East Conn misses their field goal attempt. Oswego rebounds, comes down and Ward is fouled with 32 seconds left. He makes the first one and the second  to tie it up at 54.  East Conn comes down and works it for the final shot. They miss and Burridge gets hit in the scrum for the rebound and goes down. He gets up slowly and the East Conn fans scream for a foul but we're going to Overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 08:50:55 PM
Oswego can't score in OT and trails 60-55 with 35 seconds left. East Conn misses the front end of a 1&1 and Oswego comes down and misses a three gets the rebound misses inside rebounds again and kicks it out to Sean Michele who hits a triple to make  it 60-58 with 15 seconds left. Oswego takes a time out and tries to trap the ball on the inbounds play. They do and force Eastern to take a time out with 11 seconds left. They try and inbound the ball again and to avoid a 5 second call throw it off an Oswego defender. They call another time out. Eastern inbounds the ball and they are immediately fouled.  Eastern player misses both free throws and Oswego rebounds and brings it down to find Chris Gilkes underneath with .06 seconds left for a basket that ties it up and we're going to double Overtime. What a game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Teams trade the lead as Oswego gets a 3 pointer from Ward and a free throw from Burridge to take a 4 point lead. Eastern comes back with a basket by Yarbourough and a 3 pointer by Kohn to retake the lead 65-64. Ward drives to the hoop and scores to put the Lakers back in front 66-65. Kohn is fouled on Eastern's next possession but misses both free throws. Oswego comes down and Sheridan is fouled and makes them both to put Oswego up 68-65. Eastern comes down and scores to make it 68-67 with 16 seconds to go. Laker's Michele is fouled with 12 seconds left and makes the first but Eastern calls a time out to ice him. it works and he misses the 2nd free throw. Eastern comes down and buries a three with 2.5 seconds left to play. Oswego throws the ball the length of the court but can't get off a decent shot and Eastern Connecticut wins it  70-69. I'm exhausted. Tough loss for the Lakers, but a big win for the Warriors. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on March 04, 2012, 12:01:24 AM
Great effort by Hobart tonight. The Statesmen showed a lot of heart tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2012, 07:59:26 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 04, 2012, 12:01:24 AM
Great effort by Hobart tonight. The Statesmen showed a lot of heart tonight.

It was a great effort by Hobart as they almost pulled off the upset on Cabrini's home court. Hobart had a 5 point lead with under 2 minutes to play in regulation, but a Cory Lemons jump shot, a Hobart turnover and a three ball by Cabrini's Jeremy Knowles tied the score with 54 seconds left. Hobart turned it over again on their next possession and Lemon's shot at the buzzer to win it didn't go in. In OT the teams traded leads until Cabrini's Aaron Walton-Moss hit two free throws to put them back in front 89-88 with 13 seconds left. Hobart with a chance to win it with a final basket but once again the Statesmen fail to get a shot off as they turned it over with 2 seconds left. Another quick foul by Hobart accounted for Cabrini's final point. 

With Hobart and Oswego both losing in overtime the East Region contingent in the NCAA tournament fails to get a team into the Sweet 16. Last year we had Buffalo State and Rochester advance that far. I guess there's always next year.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2012, 08:13:22 PM
As I expected Middlebury gets to host the sectional that Oswego would have been in had they won. Just my luck that it's fairly close to me and now I can't go and watch the Lakers play. Not sure if I'll go now or not.

Congratulation to Oswego on another excellent season. Tough way for Seniors Chad Burridge, Sean Michele, Ryan Sheridan, Conor Monaghan, Brian Gebhardt and Josh Delfino to end their college careers but they can leave the hardwood knowing they gave it their best effort.

Hope that Chad's outstanding season and great NCAA tournament play will result in All American recognition. Not many big men played the minutes that he did this year (34.1 mpg). He finished his career with 1865 points (16.6 ppg) and 875 rebounds (7.8 rpg). He's a First Teamer in my book. 8-)

Could be Hayden Ward's turn next year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2012, 04:23:53 PM
Ralph Temgoua of St. Lawrence has been chosen by D3 fans to play in the Reese's NABC All Star Game in Salem Virginia which takes place just prior to the National Championship. Temgoua, along with Dylan Richter, from Washington University in St. Louis, were the top two vote getters in nationwide fan voting. Richter received 8337 votes and Temgoua got 7913 votes. Temgoua beat out the 3rd place finisher by 385 votes.
Temgoua will join 2 other East Region players that will be selected as the top 2 players in the East Region by an NABC panel. I believe one of those will be Chad Burridge from Oswego State, who was the East Region Player of the Year last year and I think is the favorite to repeat this year. I think the other player will be from these 4 choices. Matt Pebole Hobart, Andy Stein NYU, Simon Smith Stevens, or Felix LLanos Clarkson. I'm guessing it might be Simon Smith.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2012, 07:07:31 PM
D3hoops has announced their All Region Teams. Chad Burridge of Oswego State is the East Region Player of the Year. Jake Simmons of Buffalo State also repeats as a First Team selection, as does Rochester's John DiBartolomeo.

A little surprised that Ithaca gets 2 players named with a 14-14 record. Would of thought Oswego State with their 26-3 D3 record would merit 2 players over the Bombers. Laker's Hayden Ward who averaged almost a double double for the season (15.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg) would have been my choice over a 2nd Ithaca player.

Three Liberty League players make the 2nd team. Matt Pebole and Stefan Thompson from Hobart, plus Gerald O'Shea from Skidmore. Surprised that the Liberty League Player of the Year, Ralph Temgoua was not named. Clarkson's Felix Llanos, who led the Liberty League in scoring also missed out. East Region and Atlantic Region only get 2 teams as the region has to have at least 40 teams to get a 3rd team named. All other regions get at least 3 teams. Hard to choose only 10 players from so many outstanding ones in the region.

I thought the biggest surprise is that 6'4" forward John Coleman from Clarkson didn't get Rookie of the Year. Here are his stats: 13.5 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 82 assists, 35 turnovers, (for a 3.28 assist to turnover ratio), 17 blocks, and 38 steals. He scored 338 points, shot 64.1% from the field, had 182 rebounds, more than half (94) were on the offensive glass, and averaged 32 minutes a game.

Aaron Nevins is a 5'10" guard from Utica College who was named the Rookie of the Year. Here are his stats. 9.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 91 assists, 61 turnovers, (for a 1.50 assist to turnover ratio), zero blocks, 32 steals. He scored 224 points, shot 39.1% from the field, had 68 rebounds, and averaged 27 minutes a game. I would expect Coleman to be better at rebounding and blocking shots, since he is a forward, but he also was better in the areas that the smaller Nevins should have had the advantage. Coleman had almost as many assists, a much better assist to turnover ratio (more than twice as good) and also had more steals. Neither player was great from the free throw line as Coleman was 24x44 (57.1%) and Nevins was 54x94 (57.4%). Just think the numbers clearly favor Coleman who's team was 16-9 over Nevins who's team was 9-16.   

Here's the East Region:

Men's All-East Region Team
Players were nominated for these awards by the Sports Information Directors at the various schools.

Player of the Year: Chad Burridge, Sr., F, Oswego State
Coach of the Year: Mike Neer, Hobart
Rookie of the Year: Aaron Nevins, G, Utica

First team

Pos. Player                    School                Yr.   Hometown

G John DiBartolomeo      Rochester           Jr.   Westport, Conn.

G Jake Simmons            Buffalo State       Jr.   Rochester, N.Y.

F Chad Burridge             Oswego State       Sr.  Hannibal, N.Y.

F Jared Suderley            Hartwick             So.  Newport, N.Y.

C Andy Stein                 New York Univ.    Sr.  Bethlehem, Pa.



Second team

Pos. Player                    School                 Yr.   Hometown

G Sean Rossi                 Ithaca                 Jr.   Lake Hopatcong, N.J.

G Gerard O'Shea           Skidmore            Sr.   West Sand Lake, N.Y.

G Stefan Thompson       Hobart               Jr.    Syracuse, N.Y.

F Simon Smith             Stevens              Sr.    Cranford, N.J.

F Matt Pebole               Hobart               Sr.    Red Bank, N.J.

C Frank Mitchell           Ithaca                So.   Hillsborough, N.J.

There was a tie for the final backcourt spot


If there was a Third team I would have the following players on it

F Hayden Ward           Oswego State       Jr.
F Chris Ryder              Hartwick              Sr.
F Kyheem Green         Brockport State    Sr.
G Ralph Temgoua       St. Lawrence        Sr.
G Felix Llanos             Clarkson              Sr.
G Sheldon Jones         Stevens               Jr.

Mike Neer picked a good time and place to return to coaching as he is named the Region's Coach of the Year.

Congratulations to Chad and Jake for their outstanding seasons. They were a pleasure to watch this year. Sorry to see Chad's illustrious career end in such a dramatic fashion. Would have liked to have seen him play a couple of more games.

Congratulations to all the players who made the Regional Teams. It looks like we'll have more than half of these guys back next year. Hopefully some East Region teams can go a little deeper in next years NCAA tournament.

         
Here's the D3hoops link to every one of the All Region Teams:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2011-12/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2012, 07:56:57 PM
With players who aren't named, it's always worth considering the possibility they weren't nominated.

The Atlantic men also do not have a third team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2012, 12:49:43 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2012, 07:56:57 PM
With players who aren't named, it's always worth considering the possibility they weren't nominated.

I thought about that, but all the guys I mentioned that didn't make the D3hoops teams were high profile players and were all selected for their respective All Conference teams. Hayden Ward was 1st team AC in the SUNYAC, Felix Llanos was 1st team AC in the Liberty League, Ralph Temgoua was 1st team AC and POTY in the Liberty League and John Coleman was Rookie of the Year in the Liberty League. Hard to imagine that the SID's from these schools would not nominate these outstanding players. I suppose there are SID's out there that don't bother following up on all the reminders that D3hoops sends them throughout the course of the season regarding the nomination process. After all some of them can't even go to the trouble of posting their scores on the D3 scoreboard or post the  wrong scores or post them on the wrong scoreboard.  But to deprive a deserving player from postseason accolades by simply not filling out and sending in a short form is nonsense. Most of us regard the D3hoops honors to be the definitive honors at season's end and for a player to get shortchanged by a nomination process, after working their tail off all year, just isn't right. I also realize that the teams aren't chosen by D3hoops but by the vote of the region's SID's. If these players were nominated and didn't get chosen then I think that a lot of voters weren't paying much attention to what was going on during the season. As I stated there were a lot of very good players deserving of recognition in the East this year and just thought that a few of them might have been overlooked.  John Coleman as ROTY was the biggest oversight. ESPECIALLY someone with the last name of COLEMAN. ;D ;)

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2012, 07:56:57 PM
The Atlantic men also do not have a third team.

I mentioned that in my post.

Pat, I know when All Conference teams are chosen they usually are done so by the vote of the League's coaches. Likewise the NABC sends their ballots to coaches to determine their regional awards and All American teams. Is there a reason why D3hoops has SID's vote on your regional teams? I would just think that the coaches, with all their assistants, would be more likely to follow up on the nomination process and would also be more knowledgeable in their selection of regional players. Just wondering.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2012, 01:18:09 AM
I must have read right over "and Atlantic" in your post, my bad.

Reason why we don't put the onus on coaches to nominate is they already have their own team. Giving SIDs some ownership over this team should ensure participation. And I wouldn't emulate the NABC's model, with eight first-team All-Americans. Pretty sure every coach has to figure out five players to start, not eight, so why can't the coaches do that for this? :)

But in all seriousness, even though coaches aren't the people we primarily rely on, they definitely have some influence in the process. That's why we make sure to post our notices on the front page, on Twitter and on Facebook so it's not just emails to SIDs and conference offices. Coaches have ways to know what's going on, and I definitely hear from them in the course of this every year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2012, 02:38:37 AM
Pat,

Thanks for the reply. I also read your response to Hugenerd's question on D3hoops Regional and All American team voting over on the All Americans board.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2012, 06:04:53 PM
The roster for the D3 All  Star game was released today. Chad Burridge from Oswego State and Andy Stein from NYU were chosen to represent the East Region. The senior All-Star players were nominated by coaches and selected by a panel of coaches representing each region in Division III. The East Region gets an extra player as Ralph Temgoua of St. Lawrence was voted onto the team by a nationwide fan vote conducted by D3hoops. Dylan Richter of Washington University St. Louis, from the Midwest Region is the other player that was voted onto the team by the fans. All other regions each have two players on the teams. The game will take place on Saturday at 4:30 PM, prior to the Championship game, which is scheduled for 7:00 PM. Should be a great game to watch.

Here's a link to the complete All Star teams:

http://d3hoops.com/notables/2012/03/all-star-rosters-announced
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2012, 06:43:27 PM
The NABC has released their All District Teams today and Chad Burridge of Oswego State was chosen as the East Region Player of the Year. Jake Simmons of Buffalo State was named to the First Team and Hayden Ward of Oswego State was chosen for the Second Team. Jason Leone from Oswego State was chosen as the Coach of the Year.

Here's the complete East Region Teams:

EAST
First Team                                                                        Second Team
*Chad Burridge, Oswego                                                    Mickey Davis, Morrisville State
John DiBartolomeo, Rochester                                            Simon Smith, Stevens Institute of Technology
Matt Pebole, Hobart                                                           Andy Stein, NYU
Jake Simmons, Buffalo State                                              Stefan Thompson, Hobart
Jared Suderley, Hartwick                                                   Hayden Ward, Oswego
Ralph Temgoua, St. Lawrence
Coach of the Year: Jason Leone, SUNY Oswego
*Denotes District Player of the Year

Here's a link for all the regional teams:

http://static.psbin.com/m/l/d7h8zkxpcmawe6/2012_NABC_Division_III_All-District_Teams_and_Coaches.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2012, 03:39:40 AM
No surprise as East Region Player of the Year, Chad Burridge, was named to the NABC All American First Team for the 2nd year in a row. Here is the write up from the Oswego State website.   http://athletics.oswego.edu/news/2012/3/15/MBB_0315122932.aspx 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2012, 11:19:09 AM
Here is the complete list of NABC All American Teams. In addition to Chad Burridge of Oswego State, Jared Suderley of Hartwick was named to the 2nd team and Ralph Temgoua of St. Lawrence was named to the third team.

2012 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM

DaQuan Brooks, Western Connecticut, 5-10, Senior, Guard, Atlanta, Ga.
Chad Burridge, Oswego State, 6-7, Senior, Center, Hannibal, N.Y.
Chris Davis, UW-Whitewater, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Madison, Wis.
David Krombeen, Hope, 6-2, Senior, Guard, Grandville, Mich.
AJ Matthews, Farmingdale State, 7-0, Junior, Forward, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Tim McCrary, Wheaton (Ill.), 6-6. Senior, Forward, Wilmette, Ill.
Georgio Milligan, Franklin and Marshall, 6-2, Senior, Guard, Spring Valley, N.Y.
DJ Woodmore, Virginia Wesleyan, 6-3, Sophomore, Guard, Virginia Beach, Va.

2012 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA SECOND TEAM

Seth Anderson, Gustavus Adolphus, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Minnesota Lake, Minn.
Tim Brady, Ohio Wesleyan, 6-4, Senior, Forward, Dublin, Ohio
Lance Brown, William Paterson, 6-4, Junior, Guard/Forward, Teaneck, N.J.
Travis Clark, Lake Forest, 6-5, Senior, Post, Evanston, Ill.
Cory Lemons, Cabrini, 5-10, Senior, Guard, Wilmington, Del.
Ryan Sharry, Middlebury, 6-8, Senior, Forward, Braintree, Mass.
Jared Suderley, Hartwick, 6-6, Sophomore, Forward, Newport, N.Y.
Conley Taylor, Christopher Newport, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Newport News, Va.

2012 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA THIRD TEAM

Ray Askew, Albertus Magnus, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Hamden, Conn.
Chris Blees, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 6-5, Graduate, Forward, Carmichael, Calif.
Winston Douglas, Medgar Evers, 6-4, Junior, Guard, Hempstead, N.Y.
Greg Ross, Centre, 6-4, Senior, Forward, Cincinnati, Ohio
Corey Shontz, John Carroll, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Andover, Ohio
Ethan Spurlin, Transylvania, 6-4, Junior, Forward, Stanford, Ky.
Ralph Temgoua, St. Lawrence, 6-4, Senior, Guard, Paris, France
Perry Wright, Widener, 6-3, Senior, Forward, Severn, Md.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2012, 04:18:21 PM
D3hoops has released their All American Teams. Jared Suderley from Hartwick makes the 2nd team. Chad Burridge receives honorable mention. These are the only 2 East Region players that were named. 25 players from 25 different schools. Cabrini got 2 mentions as they had a 1st  teamer and the Rookie of the Year. No Player of the Year or Coach of the Year was released yet as they will be announced this evening during the National Championship game.

Here's the link to all the teams:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/2012
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2012, 08:01:07 PM
Oswego State's Chad Burridge and SLU's Ralph Temgoua both had good games today in the D3 All Star game won by their East team 109-105. Chad had somewhere around 15 points, possibly a few more I think, and Ralph had at least 11. Couldn't find a box score yet. Chad did have two nice dunks, one on a breakaway and one on a nice feed as he cut toward the basket. Also think he had a 3 pointer. The cameras cut away from the action quite a bit to interview a lot of the players as the game was being played and since there were no live stats you couldn't tell who scored, when they weren't showing the game. Midllebury's Ryan Sharry was named MVP of the game. He scored 20 points and had 18 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 19, 2012, 01:02:06 AM
Congratulations to Chad and Ralph on tremendous collegiate careers!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
Here's a link to the complete box score of the D3hoops All Star Game. The 3 players from the East region combined to go 14x24 from the field. Burridge, Stein, and Temgoua were 1-2-3 in field goal percentage on their team.

http://www.nabc.org/NABC_Releases/releases/2011-12_NABC_Releases/031712-nabc-allstar-stats.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2012, 02:35:02 AM
The final D3hoops Top 25 Poll was released on Monday and Oswego State ended up at #17 with 189 points. They were the only East Region team to make the Top 25. Hobart got 16 points and finished in the #34 spot and NYU had 13 points which landed them in the #36 spot. Hartwick got 2 points which tied them for the #43 spot. I thought Hobart's 90-88 loss to Cabrini in overtime might move them into the Top 25. No other team played Cabrini any better than the Statesmen did until Whitewater beat them in the title game. Hobart was 13 seconds away from winning that game when they were called for a foul which put Cabrini on the line for the winning points.

Oswego State's final ranking was 15 spots higher than their final ranking of last year when they finished in 32nd place. It was the highest finish by a SUNYAC school since Plattsburgh State ended up #13 in the 2007-08 season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2012, 02:57:37 AM
Chad Burridge recieved more honors on Monday as he was named to the DIII News All American 2nd Team. DIII News has 5 All American teams and then a lenghty list of Honorable Mention players. No other East Region player made any of their 5  All American teams. Making their honorable mention list was Jared Suderley from Hartwick, Ralph Temgoua of St. Lawrence, John DiBartolomeo from Rochester, Mickey Davis from Morrisville State, Simon Smith from Stevens, and Sean Rossi from Ithaca.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 28, 2012, 10:07:57 PM
The ECAC released their Upstate Division III All Star Teams today. Oswego State's Chad Burridge was named Player of the Year. Buffalo State's Jake Simmons and Oswego's Hayden Ward also joined Burridge on the First Team. Cortland's Jesse Winter and Brockport's Kyheem Green were named to the Second Team. Clarkson freshman John Coleman was named Rookie of the Year. Here's a link to the complete list:

http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/winter/mbkb/AllStars/2011-12/ALLSTARS_2012_MBBUPSTATE.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on April 13, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
2 weeks since last post on these SUNYAC boards ???. Looks like the offseason is in full swing...reflecting on the "shoulda coulda and woulda's" :'(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 17, 2012, 04:15:03 AM
Well I guess somebody has to fire up this board again. I hit reply and got the big red warning cause nobody's posted for at least 120 days. Thought I did something wrong at first and Pat was going to ban me or something. He won't do that though, cause nobody proofreads for him like I do. ;D 

First day of practice was Monday and I went to check out the Plattsburgh State Cardinals. Was glad to see that all nine returning lettermen were back and in good health. Coach Tom Curle and assistant Cameron Conover have an excellent record of recruiting student-athletes that always seem to play their 4 years and graduate. A large contingent of players were on hand as 22 young men are trying to win a spot on the team. Some tough decisions will have to made in a few weeks. I watched two 5 on 5 teams going at it on adjoining courts and all 22 of those guys looked like decent D3 players. In addition to the 9 returning veterans, there were several transfers, a number of prized freshman recruits and a group of walk-ons all hoping to make an impression on the coaching staff. There will be some good battles to win starting positions and more battles just to make the team. Cardinals return their top 3 scorers and top 3 rebounders. 8 returning players averaged double minutes per game. There is not 1 senior on the team so next year is promising as well. I think the Cards will finish among the top 4 teams in the SUNYAC this year as the sophomores and freshman from last year have gained maturity and skills. A lot more of those close games will go the Cardinals way this year, I hope. I believe the Cardinals lost less talent to graduation than any team in the YAC.

Coach Curle once again has put together a strong out of conference schedule as Plattsburgh could face 3 pre-season top 15 teams (according to the D3News pre-season Top 25 poll) before January 4th. The Cardinals don't waste much time testing the waters as they host one of last year's top teams, the Middlebury Panthers, (pre-season #15) on November 25th. They travel to Keene State on December 4th to take on the Owls, who tied for 2nd in arguably the toughest conference in the East last year (and maybe the country), The Little East Conference.  The LEC sent 3 teams to the NCAA's last year and Keene State ended Middlebury's unbeaten season when they were #1 in the D3 hoops poll (surprisingly Keene St didn't get a bid to the big dance as they lost in double overtime to Eastern Ct. in their conference tournament).  On January 2nd they travel to Lancaster Pa. to face the Franklin & Marshall Diplomats (pre-season #6) who made it to the Elite 8 last year. F & M lost their top player from last year to graduation but still return a ton of talent. They play F & M in the Diplomats holiday tournament and depending on the outcome of that game, the Cards may have to play Eastern Connecticut (preseason #12) in a game the next night. Eastern Conn. won the Little East conference last year and defeated Oswego State in the 2nd round of the NCAA's last season in double OT 70-69 at Oswego. If they don't get Eastern Conn. they will match up against Salisbury University. St Lawrence is once again on the schedule as the Cards travel to Canton to take on the Saints on Nov. 27th. Always a tough game against one of the Liberty League's best programs, especially on their court. It appears on paper and after looking over the other SUNYAC teams schedules that the Cardinals, didn't do themselves any favors with their OOC schedule. Once again I think it's the toughest in the YAC.

I was happy though, as I looked over the schedules of the conference, that a number of teams have a stronger OOC schedule than they've had in previous years. That's good, but we also have to win our share of those games. Looking forward to seeing some complete rosters in a few weeks and hopefully get some imput from regulars on this board and maybe some new posters from schools that haven't been represented in the past.

A side note, the Plattsburgh State men's soccer team with a record of 15-1 continues to be ranked in the Top 25 D3soccer poll. The Cardinals moved up to #17 this week with their highest total so far of 203 points. It's the 5th straight week they've been in the Top 25. They are tied for 1st place in the conference with Brockport at 6-1 and the big showdown for the top spot will be this weekend as the Golden Eagles visit Plattsburgh on Saturday. I'm hoping my other favorite team, Potsdam can tire out the boys from Brockport on Friday. Saturday's forecast is sunny and 62 degrees, I'm going to have to make that game. Maybe the local news will finally mention the fact that the Cards are nationally ranked. It's a big secret here in Plattsburgh. I think I'm the only one that knows. College hasn't mentioned it on their website and I've sent the SID several e-mails asking why. They always mention the hockey team's ranking. and the newspaper has the hockey polls for D3 men's and women's every week of hockey season but not a mention of the soccer team's ranking in 5 weeks. ::) :o >:(         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2012, 01:51:14 PM
It's good to see the Magicman back on the (basketball) boards! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on October 17, 2012, 03:34:56 PM
Speaking of Plattsburg, not sure how good the women's team is, but they have someone that played basketball @ Western in 2010-11.  Hopefully be able to see a game this year preferably at New Paltz or some southern NY school like that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 17, 2012, 04:31:29 PM
The Preseason Top 25 is out: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2012-13/preseason (http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2012-13/preseason)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 17, 2012, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2012, 01:51:14 PM
It's good to see the Magicman back on the (basketball) boards! :D

Well it's basketball season, isn't it? Plattsburgh doesn't have the luxury that Buff State does. So we have no football team. I follow the E8 football league, the LL, and The New Jersey league. Lurk on the boards but rarely comment. Not like I can watch any of those teams in my backyard here in Plattsburgh. Was hoping to get my thrills following the "mighty" Bengals especially after they defeated the top ranked team in the country at Whitewater. Notice I said hoping!! Oh how the "mighty" have fallen. You can tell me all about football season on our next phone call. Glad you're back as well. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
Good to be back buddy. December 8th is less than 2 months away!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 18, 2012, 02:09:44 AM
No East region team cracks the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll. NYU receives the most points with 76 and checking in the ORV category at #27. Oswego State is next with 58 points at #32. Hobart, 40 points, #36, Hartwick, 21 points #42 and Rochester, 10 points # 45 round out the East teams.

Last year we had 3 East teams in the Top 25 preseason poll. Rochester #7, Oswego #18 and Buffalo State at #19. Hartwick and Hobart received points in the ORV category.  The final poll at seasons end only had 1 East team in the Top 25, Oswego State at #17 with 189 pts. Hobart (16 pts.), NYU (13 pts.), and Hartwick (2 pts.),  ended up in the ORV category. Hopefully the East region teams can improve upon that showing this year. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 18, 2012, 02:56:50 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
Good to be back buddy. December 8th is less than 2 months away!

Our annual get together is an early one this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on October 18, 2012, 08:40:03 AM
Magic... hit me up with anything you hear about Grif's engineers..... They'll be out this way in Milwaukee this year, but it conflicts with my 40th anniversary weekend and return trip from the Riviera Maya... think I better stay in St Louis (Not to say I won't see if we arrive St Louis in time to see a tourney doubleheader at Webster that Saturday night....).. Flight getting in at 4:00 PM, games at 6 and 8...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 18, 2012, 03:15:46 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 18, 2012, 02:56:50 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2012, 10:44:37 PM
Good to be back buddy. December 8th is less than 2 months away!

Our annual get together is an early one this year.

Yessir!!!!! Hopefully I'll get to the "Musicshop" this year.

P.s. My beloved BENGALS football team won their first E8 game last Sat vs. Ithaca. There is probably no team in D3 that has had more of an up and down season (opened season by crushing  NJAC pre-season  fave Cortland, lose to arch-rival Brockport, beat #1 Wisconsin -Whitewater AT WW, lose at home to Alfred....) . it's been a tough 1. Hopefully the campus pyschs are helping my boys thru this final stretch. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 18, 2012, 06:40:16 PM
Quote from: hopefan on October 18, 2012, 08:40:03 AM
Magic... hit me up with anything you hear about Grif's engineers..... They'll be out this way in Milwaukee this year, but it conflicts with my 40th anniversary weekend and return trip from the Riviera Maya... think I better stay in St Louis (Not to say I won't see if we arrive St Louis in time to see a tourney doubleheader at Webster that Saturday night....).. Flight getting in at 4:00 PM, games at 6 and 8...

hopefan,
Good to hear from you. I've been lurking on your home board the SLIAC and notice that you seem to have gotten a bigger group of respondents to participate. Good job. Your enthusiasm must be contagious. Rest assured I'll keep you informed of your Engineers as best I can. I see that Milwaukee date is RPI's opening game of the season on Nov. 17th against Rose-Hulman. Second game will be against Caltech or Milwaukee School of Engineering (the host school). Lots of engineers in this tourney. ;D If I were you I'd convince the wife to celebrate the 40th anniversary a week early so you can see your alma mater play when they come west. (Fat chance I know ???) Congrats on the upcoming milestone. MY wife and I had our 40th back in August. Not sure if you saw this news release but your old college coach was just inducted into the Capital District Basketball Hall of Fame. Here's the link to the write up: http://www.rpiathletics.com/news/2012/7/5/MBB_0705120946.aspx

PS: Why don't you join us in the National Pick Em League this year? We've missed you the past couple of years. And don't forget we have to defend our crowns in the Survivor's Pool. I'll also try and help you out on the D3 versus other divisions board when I can.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on October 18, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Magic, I won't be doing the D3 vs the world of non D3 stats this year.. when I did them in the past, I had a pretty neat series of spreadsheets with all schedules and downloaded results... could not even approach the necessary time this year....  and I worry that my schedule of seeing numerous SLIAC games would get in the way of the pickem contest.  Was well aware of Coach Kalbaugh's award.. Considered travelling over for it, just couldn't get it arranged...Dubnansky and Laskey (in the picture with Griff and the Kalbaughs) were both one year behind me...we had a great season when I was a junior and they were sophs.. unfortunately the next season ended at .500... we had an arrangement with Plattsburg wherein we scrimmaged with them each year...my junior year we played up there, we went up in several vans... let's just say our van, with no coaches, had a wild trip down the northway back to Troy!!!!    I think of all my experiences playing and coaching at RPI... I really miss that part of the country....nothing in the Midwest matches the beauty of Upstate NY.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 22, 2012, 08:40:15 PM
Potsdam roster is up.  8 returnees and 9 new faces.

Two time all conference player Curtis Pierce leads the Bears.  Pierce has been a force for the Bears since he arrived on campus.  Already over 1,000 points, he will take the lead, Pierce is a complete player, scoring, rebounding, defending, a terrific blend of strength and athleticism, will be a tough out for anyone who faces him.

Starters Rob Duquette and Zach Adams also return, and will provide size, strength and length.

Great athleticism and outside shooting mark the newcomers. four class B,C,D all state players, and a couple of talented JUCO's.

Bears do have a brutal first semester, as they face Ithaca, Clarkson, Cortland, Oswego, Buff State, Fredonia and SLU before the semester break.

The Bears need to hold serve at Home before the semester break in order to have a decent season.

They open with a scrimmage vs. Canadian power Algonquin on 11/6, then open at Clarkson vs. Ithaca on 11/16.

Go Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 23, 2012, 02:51:29 AM
bear,
I hope Pierce has recovered from the injuries that plagued him through much of last season. Four guys who started most games last year are back and this transfer, Williams, looks like he'll have an impact. I see the Peterson kid returns from 2 years ago. Has he bulked up at all? Maybe this is the year the Bears can get back to respectable.  As you stated, tough schedule to start the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 23, 2012, 10:46:09 AM
Peterson hasn't bulked up much, but he is older and stronger.  To use a quote from "The Replacements" ""he's wiry".

Pierce appears to be fully healed, and I expect him to be a handful for anyone he faces.

Duquette is a specimen, as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 23, 2012, 12:13:40 PM
Quote from: thebear on October 23, 2012, 10:46:09 AM
Pierce appears to be fully healed, and I expect him to be a handful for anyone he faces.

Duquette is a specimen, as well.

   A healthy Curtis Pierce is truly a "handful". Last seasons totals of 13.9 points per game and 8.3 boards too boot, for an often injured player with a heart, is truly cause for concern. I can't remember seeing a kid who was hurt, as often as Pierce, still come out and give 110% game after game knowing that in many cases his injuries wouldnt let him finish the contest

  I personally witnessed Duquette go 10 of 14 when he scorched my beloved BENGALS for 24 pts (tied his season high) in their last meeting! That healthy pair alone is scary! Hopefully Dec 7th will not be a day when Pierce/Duqette and co. put it all put it together!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 03, 2012, 08:14:38 AM
Union College traveling up the Northway today to take on Plattsburgh State at Memorial Hall in their annual scrimmage. It will mark the 2nd scrimmage of the season for Plattsburgh as the Cardinals made a visit to Castleton State last weekend. Plattsburgh was clearly the victor in that matchup but the boys from Union will provide a stiffer test, no doubt. Castleton State plays an up tempo, "lets fire up as many 3 pointers as we can" type of offense similar to the Grinnell College "System". The Cards defense will face a more traditional style of play in today's contest.


Coach Curle has made his final cuts and the team will carry 16 players on this year's roster which has been posted. Lots of talent with 9 returning lettermen, 3 transfers, and 4 freshman. Plenty of size as the Cards have 8 players 6' 4" and taller. The leading rebounder however, is 6' 3"  Jr. forward John Perez (12.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg). Perez was also the 2nd leading scorer on last year's team  and will join 6' 6" Jr. forward Shavar Fields (13.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg), the Cardinals' leading scorer from a year ago, to form a potent 1-2 punch. 5' 8" Sophomore Mike Mitchell (3.7 ppg, 2.0 apg, 14 min.pg)  will most likely run the point and 6' 6" Jr. forward Reggie Williams (4.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg) who started in 25 games last year will probably lock down a starting position once again. Shamoy McIntosh a 6' 2" Sophomore guard who didn't start last year but was the 3rd leading scorer on the team (7.1 ppg, 2.6 rpg) may crack the starting lineup this year. 6' 5" Soph. forward Ezra Hodgson (3.8 ppg) and 6' 2" guard Jordan Moody (3.8 ppg) will both be in the mix and may find themselves in a starting role. Returning players 6' 5" Jr. G/F Anthony Baker (2.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg) and 6' 4" Soph. Forward Gary Tibbs (2.2 ppg, 2.2 rpg) will figure prominently with valuable minutes off the bench.

New on the team this year is 6' 6" Sophomore Forward Alan Siergiej who transferred to Plattsburgh from New Paltz. As a freshman last year Siergiej started 19 out of 26 games for the Hawks and averaged 4.8 ppg, 4.6 rpg and 25.8 minutes per game. He also led New Paltz with 18 blocked shots. Jr. guard 6' 0" Chris Manning is a transfer from D2 LIU Post where he averaged 2.1 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.8 apg and 1.2 steals per game in his only year at the D2 level.  6' 4" Jr. G/F Kalik Parker comes to the Cardinal program from Hudson Valley CC where he earned All Conference and All Region 1st team honors last year. All 3 of these players will provide immediate help for the Cardinals and will be fighting to gain a starting position as well.

The 4 freshman on the team all appear to have strong potential based on my observations of their play in practice sessions. 6' 4" G/F Billy O'Shea from Tappan Zee High School and 6' 1" G Edward Correa, from Mount St. Michael, where he was named to the All Bronx 1st team, both look to be good shooters. 5' 10' point guard Kirk Ottey, an All Conference and All League selection from New Rochelle, and 6' 0"  James Outlaw, a starting point guard from Thurgood Marshall Academy in NYC round out the Cards roster. 

Once again Coach Curle will have tough decisions to make regarding the minutes that various players will receive. A nice dilemma to have, and one that he will face again next year as this year's team doesn't have a single senior on it. If he wanted to, he could throw 3 different 5 man units on the floor and probably not see much of a fall off in production. I'll be surprised if this team doesn't challenge last season's SUNYAC leaders for one of the top spots in the conference.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 06, 2012, 04:17:07 PM

Post-C. Burridge season up and running at Oswego. Stops Queeens Canadiens 67-51 last weekend. H. Ward  center stage as expected, the 6-6, 215 sr posts 22 pts, 7 rebs in 30'. Good stable of returning hands for defending champs, like grad student S. Michele, 6-1, 230 sr C. Gilkes. Two other sr returnees -- 6-7, 215 B. Nollet and guard A. Miribito. And due for more time is 6-4, 190 R. Powell who came off the pine 20 times as a frosh. Three figuring to figure as newcomers: 6-2 fr g E. McLaurin from Poughkeepsie; 6-2, 210 jr swingman D. Ross who played in Virginia last season and hails from Syracuse; 6-4, 200 fr. swingman A. Rawa from Locust Valley. Latter trio all got hefty minutes in the exhibition.

Brockport last weekend enjoys  84-60 tuneup against York, Ont. But Eagles appear to have much different personnel look from a year ago. Get past solid jr g J. Ivy and D. Klein and familiar faces with big past minutes may a tough find. Klein and fellow guard J. Major (27 games, 2 starts) are the lone seniors. Soph L. Legister played in 27 game reserve minutes. O. Adeniran is a 6-6 soph who saw past duty as did 6-4 jr D. Hayden. Two junior additions are g B. Bell of Rochester and 6-2 D. Crawford from Brooklyn. Among fr is 5-8 J. Lorenzo. Bports with big shoes to fill, G. Williams, Green, Jackson, Sisson gone.

Potsdam in exhibition action tonight vs. Algonquin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 07, 2012, 01:10:34 AM
Plattsburgh State and Union in a scrimmage over the weekend. Union returns four starters and 7 of their top 8 players from last years team that went 16-9 and finished in 4th place in the Liberty League conference. I really expected a fairly close battle between these two teams as last year they traded halves, with Union winning the 1st 20 minute half by about 20 points and Plattsburgh winning the 2nd 20 minute period by 24 points. With both teams returning a ton of talent I was looking forward to a closely contested game. However the Cardinals dominated this scrimmage winning the 1st 20 minutes by a 15 point margin and taking the 2nd half by 18 points. The entire 16 man Cardinal roster rotated in and out of the 40 minute game with all players seeing a fair amount of floor time. Starters John Perez, Shamoy McIntosh, and Shavar Fields were primary contibutors with returning lettermen Gary Tibbs, and Jordan Moody looking solid as well. Newcomers that showed their stuff were transfers, Kalik Parker, Chris Manning and Alan Siergiej. Freshmen Edward Correa and Billy O'Shea look like they're ready to add some quality minutes off the Card's bench this year. The teams did play a third 20 minute session that had the 4 Cardinal freshman and 1 sophomore playing against the Union starters for more than half of the period. Union won that session by 8 points but I was impressed at how well the Plattsburgh youngsters stayed with the Union upperclassmen. The Cardinal coaching staff, probably wasn't happy about some of the shot selections and the number of turnovers, but had to be pleased with the results of the scrimmage, especially on the defensive end. The Cardinals held Union to under 40 points for the 1st 40 minutes. Not bad against a team that averaged better than 73 ppg last year.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 07, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
D3hoops preseason All America team has been released. Was hoping that Buffalo State's Jake Simmons might get a mention or possibly Oswego State's Hayden Ward but no such luck. No SUNYAC player made it on any of the four teams or the honorable mention list. Fortunately the real list comes out in March so our guys have plenty of time to make a lasting impression. Last year we had 5 different players make the D3hoops Team of the Week. Three of those players are back for another season and hopefully all will have outstanding seasons. I know after watching Jake Simmons play for the past 3 years I'd take him on my team over a number of other  guards on the preseason AA teams.   

Hartwick's Jared Suderly was named to the 1st team. Ithaca's Sean Rossi was named to the honorable mention list. The only other player from the East region is Rochester's John DiBartolomeo, who received a 2nd team nod. Here's a link to the complete list:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2013
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 07, 2012, 07:48:34 PM
POTSDAM - The SUNY Potsdam men's basketball team used a second half surge to claim a 71-51 decision over Algonquin College (Ottawa, ON, Canada) in an exhibition matchup Tuesday evening. Senior guard Mark Lake Jr. (Harlem, N.Y./All Hallows HS/Monroe CC/St. Joseph's Indiana)  led the Bears in scoring with 13 points.

The Bears struck first in the game behind a three-pointer from Lake. Both teams battled back-and-forth as Potsdam tried to find a rhythm and settle in for its first of the season. The Bears were able to generate an eight-point lead late in the first half. However, the Thunder responded and closed the gap going into halftime, 34-32.  Potsdam had a difficult first half in the paint, but covered by hitting 7 treys in the first 20.

The second half went the Bears way as they went on a five-minute,17-2 run sparked by 6'5" junior forward Rob Duquette (Peru, N.Y./Peru CS) and 6'6" senior forward Corey Ellis (Beacon, N.Y./Delaware Valley College). Potsdam found their groove as they converted on several key opportunities and locked down the Thunder's offensive threats. The Bears defense held Algonquin to 20 percent shooting in the second half and caused 23 turnovers on the night.

Potsdam 6'8" junior forward Colin Peterson (Hilton, N.Y./Hilton CS) totaled 12 points and eight rebounds. Senior guard Josh Lambert (Brooklyn, N.Y.) and Duquette both added 11 points to round out the top scorers for the Bears.

Potsdam opens the regular season on Friday, Nov. 16, against Ithaca College at 8 p.m. in the first round of the North Country Invitational at Clarkson University.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 07, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
D3hoops preseason All America team has been released. Was hoping that Buffalo State's Jake Simmons might get a mention or possibly Oswego State's Hayden Ward but no such luck. No SUNYAC player made it on any of the four teams or the honorable mention list. Fortunately the real list comes out in March so our guys have plenty of time to make a lasting impression. Last year we had 5 different players make the D3hoops Team of the Week. Three of those players are back for another season and hopefully all will have outstanding seasons. I know after watching Jake Simmons play for the past 3 years I'd take him on my team over a number of other  guards on the preseason AA teams.   

Hartwick's Jared Suderly was named to the 1st team. Ithaca's Sean Rossi was named to the honorable mention list. The only other player from the East region is Rochester's John DiBartolomeo, who received a 2nd team nod. Here's a link to the complete list:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2013

magicman -- barring a favorable appeal, Jake Simmons is out of eligibility.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2012, 02:34:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 07, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
D3hoops preseason All America team has been released. Was hoping that Buffalo State's Jake Simmons might get a mention or possibly Oswego State's Hayden Ward but no such luck. No SUNYAC player made it on any of the four teams or the honorable mention list. Fortunately the real list comes out in March so our guys have plenty of time to make a lasting impression. Last year we had 5 different players make the D3hoops Team of the Week. Three of those players are back for another season and hopefully all will have outstanding seasons. I know after watching Jake Simmons play for the past 3 years I'd take him on my team over a number of other  guards on the preseason AA teams.   

Hartwick's Jared Suderly was named to the 1st team. Ithaca's Sean Rossi was named to the honorable mention list. The only other player from the East region is Rochester's John DiBartolomeo, who received a 2nd team nod. Here's a link to the complete list:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2013

magicman -- barring a favorable appeal, Jake Simmons is out of eligibility.

Thanks Pat, I found that out late last night and realized that probably had a lot to do with Jake not getting a mention on the D3hoops teams. Hopeful that this fine young man does get a favorable appeal. Certainly has a number of extenuating circumstances that would-should, merit one. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 11, 2012, 09:09:39 PM

Preparing for Cortland should not be all that difficult, he said tongue in cheek. Just bring out last seaon's game films. Twelve RDragons return from that 22-7 squad that finished runnerup to Oswego and won 14 of its last 17. Heading the cast: all-stars J. Winter (14.8 ppg, 122 assts, 49 3s) and B. Manning (13.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 67 3s) plus J. Smith (13.2ppg, 65 3s) and H. Hefele (9.1 ppg, 35 3s). That's the senior backcourt. G. Spendijian is a veteran jr guard. Battle-tested frontliners: 6-5 jr K. McMahon (7.3 ppg), 6-8 sr D. Sternkopf, 6-4 jr. J. Connolly, 6-4 jr M. Kearney, 6-8, 275 soph M. Brown and 6-7, 220 soph M. McGowan. Roster lists returning soph guard T. J. Hefele a captain along with Winter and Manning. Four frosh and a soph round out 17 man crew.

Corts open Thursday at Elmira and travel to Utica for a Saturday matinee. Late December finds Coach Span taking his roundballers to Daytona Beach for action vs. Ursinus and Embry-Riddle.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 11, 2012, 11:27:07 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 11, 2012, 09:09:39 PM

Preparing for Cortland should not be all that difficult, he said tongue in cheek. Just bring out last seaon's game films. Twelve RDragons return from that 22-7 squad that finished runnerup to Oswego and won 14 of its last 17. Heading the cast: all-stars J. Winter (14.8 ppg, 122 assts, 49 3s) and B. Manning (13.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 67 3s) plus J. Smith (13.2ppg, 65 3s) and H. Hefele (9.1 ppg, 35 3s). That's the senior backcourt. G. Spendijian is a veteran jr guard. Battle-tested frontliners: 6-5 jr K. McMahon (7.3 ppg), 6-8 sr D. Sternkopf, 6-4 jr. J. Connolly, 6-4 jr M. Kearney, 6-8, 275 soph M. Brown and 6-7, 220 soph M. McGowan. Roster lists returning soph guard T. J. Hefele a captain along with Winter and Manning. Four frosh and a soph round out 17 man crew.

Wow. Not a bad returning cast. You start out with the best backcourt in SUNYAC...and you just keep adding to it! ;)

Corts open Thursday at Elmira and travel to Utica for a Saturday matinee. Late December finds Coach Span taking his roundballers to Daytona Beach for action vs. Ursinus and Embry-Riddle.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 12, 2012, 05:15:50 PM
Hey Bengalsrule.  Are you guys holding your cards or what.  Everyone else in the 'yac has rosters posted.  When can we expect the Bengals to show their team?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2012, 07:15:31 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 11, 2012, 09:09:39 PM

Preparing for Cortland should not be all that difficult, he said tongue in cheek. Just bring out last seaon's game films. Twelve RDragons return from that 22-7 squad that finished runnerup to Oswego and won 14 of its last 17. Heading the cast: all-stars J. Winter (14.8 ppg, 122 assts, 49 3s) and B. Manning (13.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 67 3s) plus J. Smith (13.2ppg, 65 3s) and H. Hefele (9.1 ppg, 35 3s). That's the senior backcourt. G. Spendijian is a veteran jr guard. Battle-tested frontliners: 6-5 jr K. McMahon (7.3 ppg), 6-8 sr D. Sternkopf, 6-4 jr. J. Connolly, 6-4 jr M. Kearney, 6-8, 275 soph M. Brown and 6-7, 220 soph M. McGowan. Roster lists returning soph guard T. J. Hefele a captain along with Winter and Manning. Four frosh and a soph round out 17 man crew.

Corts open Thursday at Elmira and travel to Utica for a Saturday matinee. Late December finds Coach Span taking his roundballers to Daytona Beach for action vs. Ursinus and Embry-Riddle.

Cortland has to be the preseason favorite to win the YAC this year. No one returns as much talent as the Red Dragons do. With an abundance of shooters and big men, the conference is theirs for the taking. They averaged 71.8 ppg last year and return 69.3 ppg with their top 9 players all back. Cortland finished in 2nd place last year with a 14-4 conference record.

That being said, Oswego and Geneseo will likely provide the the toughest opposition as both of these teams also return quite a bit of talent. The defending champion Lakers have a huge hole to fill with the graduation of SUNYAC All Everything Chad Burridge but starters Hayden Ward, Sean Michele and Chris Gilkes give Oswego a solid group to try for the repeat. Geneseo returns 4 starters and 7 of their top 8 performers led by Ryan Riefenhauser, Jordan Jones, Connor Fedge and Matt Curry. The Blue Knights handed Cortland 1 of their 4 conference losses last year, beating the Red Dragons in Cortland 63-60. Geneseo was the 3rd seed in last year's conference tournament after finishing in a tie for 3rd during the regular season with Brockport and Buffalo State.  Plattsburgh could be a challenger as they also return a large part of their rotation. With the additon of 3 solid transfers and some good looking freshman I expect the Cardinals will be a handful for any team this year. A tough out of conference schedule should get them ready for the SUNYAC wars.

I think these 4 teams will occupy the top 4 spots at the end of the year. Hard to pick a winner from them but I'm guessing it will be the Red Dragons of the Cortland variety. I sure hope I'm wrong and my Cardinals can put together a solid season that will lead to another title.

Random notes:

New Paltz will once again have the services of former All Conference selection Shereef Taylor. The 6'2" G/F averaged 13.9 ppg, 6.0 rpg 2,7 assists pg, and led the team in steals during the 2010-11 season. He'll form a potent combination with All Conference  forward Matt Devine for the Hawks. Loss of All Conference guard Harris Wichard (17.3 ppg, 6.2 rpg, team leader in assists) will be felt. Big man and starter Alan Siergiej transferred to Plattsburgh. Six freshman and 2 transfers on a 14 man roster, will need to contribute right away or they will have a very short bench.

Oswego State will have 6'7" forward Brendan Nollet back this year as he returns after missing most of last year with an injury.

Brockport lost 3 starters including All Conference players Gerald Williams and Kyheem Green.  6'5" forward Donnell Jackson (10.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg) is also not listed on the roster. Golden Eagles lost over 45 ppg and 22 rpg. Eight returning lettermen led by guards John Ivy (12.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg), Derek Klein (4.9 ppg 4.4 apg), and Lance Legister (9.1 ppg). Lack of experienced bigs could prove troublesome. Several new faces with some size have transferred in and could fill that gap. Coach Dunne has lots of experience fielding a team that is lacking in height, however. Brockport is always competitive.

Fredonia lost 5 of their top 7 players including All Conference forward Julius Bryant (14.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg). They averaged 62 ppg last year and graduated 45 ppg along with  21 rpg. 19 players listed on the 2012-13 roster but only 3 returnees from last year's squad. Amir Billups (8.4 ppg), Dalton Kashmer (7.1 ppg, 4.2 rpg) and Devin Case (1.1 ppg) are the only Blue Devils lettermen. Of the 16 new faces 9 of them are freshmen, 4 are transfers from jucos and 3 others, all upperclassmen are new to the team. Eight players listed at 6' 4" or taller. Will definitely need a lot of these guys to show up right away or it could be a long season for the Blue Devils.

Oneonta State had a 10 man rotation that averaged double digit minutes last year in an obvious rebuilding year. Of those 10 players only 1 was a graduating senior. However 4 lettermen are not listed on this year's roster. What hurts even worse is that all of them were 6'4" or taller including both 6'7" players. YAC Rookie of the Year guard Frankie Kelly (10.9 ppg, 3.6 rpg, and 4.3 ast/g) is back to once again lead these Red Dragons. Dan Lee (9.2 ppg, 46 3's) will probably occupy the 2 spot. Nick Sarchioto a 6'5" forward (7.9 ppg, 2.6 rpg), guard Kevin Donahue (6.3 ppg) and guard Zach Mager (3.7 ppg) all saw extensive playing time last year and will be fighting for a starting role. Two former players, both guards, return after missing most or all of last year  (Chris Hooks and Terrence Parker). Six freshmen and 2 new upperclassmen make up half of the 16 man roster. Quality bigs may be a shortcoming

Still no roster for Buffalo State.

Potsdam and Plattsburgh were written about earlier on this board by "the bear" and yours truly.

Lots of new faces in the league this year. It certainly should be an interesting season, as always. Perhaps the biggest change in the SUNYAC is that the conference tournament will no longer be open to the top eight teams. Starting this year, only the top six teams will get a chance to win the automatic bid to the NCAA's. That will certainly make every conference game a must win and defending your home court a necessity.

My wish list:

1. The Cardinals capture the regular season and the Conference tournament.  ;D (I said it was a wish list)

2. My alma mater Potsdam has a good year, makes the playoffs and meets the Cards in the Championship game. :o (I know, I know, I'm wishing for a lot.)

3. In addition to the automatic bid to the NCAA's, 2 other YAC teams receive at large bids. 8-) (Don't know if that's ever happened, I'll actually be happy if we get 2 teams in this year)

4. Some one from the YAC makes the D3 Hoops All American Team.

5. Multiple players make the D3 Hoops Team of the Week

6. A SUNYAC team goes deep in the NCAA Tournament (That would mean at least the Great Eight)

7. Two teams from the YAC finish in D3 Hoops Top 25.

Plattsburgh opens up their season on 11-16 as they take on The Sage Colleges in the 1st round of the Cardinal Classic. Since it's my birthday that  day I'm expecting a victory for my present. We'll play either York College or Norwich the following day and then host #4 Middlebury on 11-25.

Cortland has the honor of playing the first regular season game, as jdex mentioned, at Elmira on Nov. 15th at 8 PM. Six other teams open on the 16th.  First set of SUNYAC games are the weekend of Nov. 30th-Dec. 1st.  Lucky (sarcasm) Cardinals have to travel to Oswego, then Cortland. Who in hell made out this schedule. ??? Facing, most likely, the top 2 teams right off the bat on the road isn't what I had in mind. My other favorite team the Bears have the same problem. :P   

Three more days till the opening bell.  GO CARDS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2012, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 12, 2012, 05:15:50 PM
Hey Bengalsrule.  Are you guys holding your cards or what.  Everyone else in the 'yac has rosters posted.  When can we expect the Bengals to show their team?

They're waiting for a reason, bear. Can't say as I blame them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 12, 2012, 09:00:29 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 12, 2012, 07:15:31 PM
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Lucky (sarcasm) Cardinals have to travel to Oswego, then Cortland. Who in hell made out this schedule. ??? Facing, most likely, the top 2 teams right off the bat on the road isn't what I had in mind. My other favorite team the Bears have the same problem. :P   

Three more days till the opening bell.  GO CARDS!!!

Magic - Thanks for wishing good things for da Bears. 

As for the schedule, Bears really didn't adopt the Boeheim scheduling formula, start with Ithaca, who is loaded, If they get past the Bombers, they get a solid Clarkson team; after Thxgiving, they face the Knights again, the aforementioned Oswego/Cortland Road trip, then an always tough SLU team, then host the Bengals and Fredonia, which appears to have substantially reinforced its roster.

Don't know if Dr. Pat or the new commish made this schedule, but hitting the NorthCountry teams with Cortland, Oswego, Buff State in the first four conference games is cruel and unusual punishment.

Those first Eight games will probably give a pretty good indicator of how the winter of 2012-13 will go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2012, 01:54:52 AM
It's almost 2 AM Tuesday morning and Bengalsrule is as wide awake as I am. ;D

Where's that roster you promised me today?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2012, 03:59:40 AM
Nice article about Oswego State's Chris Gilkes on the front page of D3hoops today. Sounds like this young man has got his priorities straight.

  The story is titled "Powering forward". Here's the link: http://d3hoops.com/landing/index#
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 13, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 13, 2012, 01:54:52 AM
It's almost 2 AM Tuesday morning and Bengalsrule is as wide awake as I am. ;D

Where's that roster you promised me today?

                                                                 Roster will be out Thursday!!

    And yes magicman, thats a great story on Chris Gilkes! Kudos to the kid who has had to survive a distant father and (although she lived in Syracuse) a distant mother too! Being a "good" father at 18 makes his story all the more amazing!!

   What really stands out after I finished reading the story was that it was submitted by the Oswego - Assistant S. I. D.!!!! It is truely heartwarming to see a staff person at a school who really gives a damn about the kids in (any of) their programs. None of us know for sure what most, if any, of these kids go through to get to their respective colleges (unless they take time to share with us like Chris did) and then to become basketball players. In the inner-cities of Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo and New York City, the environment leads kids, like Chris, to having a better chance of doing 4 years at Attica than SUNY-Oswego. Having a "Ms. Grulich' (see story if you dont know who she is) might be the only thing which stood in between a Chris going to a different type state institution (which is not known for "higher learning"). Only God knows the number of kids who didn't have a loving parent or Ms. Grulich, who was willing to "stand in the gap" for them during those critical years of junior high/high school! And but for 1 person or persons who realized that this kid had some extraordinary circumstances to overcome, and he is worth taking a chance on, we may never have heard of many of our SUNYAC stars, let alone student athletes.

  We, the fans, enjoy our players on game night! But if we knew what life obstacles they have had to go through to get to that court on Friday night. Obstacles like..... *seeing you father sentenced to 10 years in prison on your 12th birthday and then 5 years later *burying your mom before you graduate from high school. *After graduation having to raise your younger siblings and, on some days your firstborn child, in a boarded up house (because public assistance wouldnt pay for anything better) because the alternative would be to continue live in a house with your stepfather and continue to watch him sexually abuse your younger sister (after you mother has died and biological father has gone to prison). All the while hoping that 1 day a college/coach/admission director, would see that you are worthy enough to attend their school/be part of thier school/program, and that an S.I.D. would be willing to fight for your right to play the sport that you love, (which in most cases, like Chris, kept you off the streets and out of prison).   The road that some of these kids have traveled to get to that court on Friday night is worthy of a standing ovation when the walk on the court..let alone play in the game 

  Too often I've heard of S.I.D.'s who try and shortchange a player, like Chris, because they don't like A- the kid...B- the coach of that particular sport or C - they just don't like that sport! And so instead of doing all that they can do, as the S.I.D., (or assistant S.I.D.) to insure that a kid has every opportunity to excel in their given sport, they attempt to "backdoor" the kid and hurt his/her chances to excel! Thier warped thinking says if "I can keep this kid off the team then I can hurt" this/that team. That sucks!! If I had my drothers I'd line the s.o.b.'s up and....(fill in the blanks magic/bear). People like that who are paid to do whats best for the student athlete (within the guidelines of the NCAA), and in fact do the opposite, are worthless pieces of s--t!!!  >:( 

      Anyway, hoping the best for Chris (except on 1/12/13 and 2/1/13). My pastor always says that if "you have had no test(s) in life..then you have no testimony". Chris and other SUNYAC hoopsters truly have a testimony. I'm a witness that that is true! ;).

   And thanks to Tom Loughery - Assistant S. I. D. - Oswego State, for taking to time to talk proud about 1 of his student athletes who has overcome tremendous odds and persevered. I have no doubt that Tom works very hard for all the student athletes at Oswego. I hope other S.I.D.'s take note(s).

                                                             Roster Thursday (Pending S.I.D./NCAA approval of course!!!!) :)



P.s. The * is to identify true, not fictitious (sic?), incidents in the life of a Buff State student athlete (who will remain anonymous), Things that he has shared with me in person.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 13, 2012, 09:55:47 PM
Nice tribute Bengals.

As someone who has been both an SID and an assistant SID, & been able to get one of my players (Mike Deane) AA honors, and a second (Ted Bence) first team All-ECAC from the same team in the same year, (Magic can attest to their combined abilities from many years at the PBA) I appreciate your concern.

Some stories play better than others.  Humbled that Chris Gilkes is willing to share his family tragedies, new he just has to deliver on the court & it will add to the legend.

Oswego is ranked #1 in D-III hockey, so it makes sense that the Asst SID would do the main coverage for hoops.  Hockey is king in Oswego, I have a brother, sister, and sister in law who are all Lakers. 

The Bear
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2012, 11:11:08 PM
Bengalrule + K.  Nuff said! 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 13, 2012, 09:55:47 PM
As someone who has been both an SID and an assistant SID, & been able to get one of my players (Mike Deane) AA honors, and a second (Ted Bence) first team All-ECAbearC from the same team in the same year, (Magic can attest to their combined abilities from many years at the PBA)

You got that right. Deane to Bence was a thing of beauty and most of the time no one saw it coming. ;D  The annual PBA tournament. Some of the best ball the North Country has ever witnessed. Plus K for bringing back the memories.

bear,
Had no idea you were an SID back in the day.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 13, 2012, 11:46:53 PM
I was the student SID and followed you as sports editor of the Racquette 71-73, also did Stats for Jerry, and was the PA the last year in Merritt (a wonderful pit) and the first three years in Maxcy 72-75.

I was hired as SID from 73-75.  We had SUNYAC champs in hoops, wrestling & swimmin & diving at the same time.

Got married & went to grad school in '75.

Fun times...

-bear-
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 07, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
D3hoops preseason All America team has been released. Was hoping that Buffalo State's Jake Simmons might get a mention or possibly Oswego State's Hayden Ward but no such luck. No SUNYAC player made it on any of the four teams or the honorable mention list. Fortunately the real list comes out in March so our guys have plenty of time to make a lasting impression. Last year we had 5 different players make the D3hoops Team of the Week. Three of those players are back for another season and hopefully all will have outstanding seasons. I know after watching Jake Simmons play for the past 3 years I'd take him on my team over a number of other  guards on the preseason AA teams.   

Hartwick's Jared Suderly was named to the 1st team. Ithaca's Sean Rossi was named to the honorable mention list. The only other player from the East region is Rochester's John DiBartolomeo, who received a 2nd team nod. Here's a link to the complete list:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2013

magicman -- barring a favorable appeal, Jake Simmons is out of eligibility.

Pat,
News out today, Jake Simmons did get a favorable appeal from the NCAA and is eligible to play for the entire year.

Does this mean he can rightfully take his place somewhere on the D3 hoops preseason All American teams? ;D I realize it's too late now, but I have to believe he was under consideration by you guys until the eligibility issue came up. Hopefully he won't be overlooked for the end of the year selections.  ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
Oswego State Should win the Conference returning some Guys and have some stud Freshman watchout for Alex Rawa 6-4 F/C. Buffalo State Should be good with Jake Simmons running the show. Cortland is always solid and Geneseo could be pretty good had a good Recruiting Class this Year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2012, 07:27:41 PM
After today's favorable ruling on Jake Simmons, Bengalsrule's feet are so far off the ground he's in danger of getting his hair clipped by low flying planes. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2012, 07:30:39 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
Oswego State Should win the Conference returning some Guys and have some stud Freshman watchout for Alex Rawa 6-4 F/C. Buffalo State Should be good with Jake Simmons running the show. Cortland is always solid and Geneseo could be pretty good had a good Recruiting Class this Year.

Jake doesn't run the show, he is the show.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 07:47:33 PM
Who else does Buffalo State have Besides Jake Simmons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 14, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
I have to believe he was under consideration by you guys until the eligibility issue came up.

Yes. Otherwise I would not have found out about it because I wouldn't have asked. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 14, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
I have to believe he was under consideration by you guys until the eligibility issue came up.

Yes. Otherwise I would not have found out about it because I wouldn't have asked. :)

Thanks Pat, I appreciate the response. That's why I thought he was under consideration. Didn't know how else you would have known about the eligibility issue.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2012, 12:31:09 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2012, 12:24:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 14, 2012, 06:01:43 PM
I have to believe he was under consideration by you guys until the eligibility issue came up.

Yes. Otherwise I would not have found out about it because I wouldn't have asked. :)

Thanks Pat, I appreciate the response. That's why I thought he was under consideration. Didn't know how else you would have known about the eligibility issue.

Yeah. It would either be for preseason All-American or preseason Top 25 that I would go out and make an inquiry like that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 07:47:33 PM
Who else does Buffalo State have Besides Jake Simmons

  Well let me answer that question for you dcahill! And by the way..welcome to the D3hoops and the SUNYAC boards!

  Returning with Jake this year. Is 6'4" Sophomore Roderick Epps. Last season he was 2nd on the team in 3pt field goals (behind Jake Simmons Conference leading 3.67 made per game). Rod has worked hard during the off season and his ability to get his shot off in traffic, and or attack the basket, reminds some folks at Buffalo State of Chris Cartwright. Chris teamed with Jake in 10-11 to form 1 of the toughest backcourts in Sunyac history (both made 1st team ALL-SUNYAC that season, along with a NCAA "sweet 16" appearance).

   Also returning is Senior - Seth Runge. At 6'8" 260 lbs,  Seth is the "Anchor" of the BENGALS defense. This kid is in the best shape of his college career and is running the floor like Coach Ansari had hoped he would when he first arrived at Buffalo State. There is not a kid on this team that has worked harder during the off-season than Seth and I feel that his efforts will be rewarded.

  The other returning senior is Anthony "Ant" Hamer. He will usually be the smallest player on the court unless you measure heart! Then he gets considerably bigger. He will be the BENGALS floor general this season and the BENGAL faithful feel that his 3 years of playing behind Norm Simmons has prepared him well for taking the leadership role that Coach Ansari has entrusted him with.

  The next returnee is Sophomore 6'7" Anyar Majak. The shot blocking phenom from Jefferson high school, Rochester Ny, has shown that he is ready to assume his rightfull place in the BENGALS starting line-up. Last year he was hot and cold. A Double Double against Houghton and then 2 pts 3 boards in the next game. This season do not expect him to be anything but consistent.

   Also returning is Soph Maurice Miles. This 6'4" swingman can play anything from the 1 to the 4. And expect him to play them all. The same should be said for Chris Castren, a junior from Voorheesville, Ny. Last year a damaged shoulder ended his season in Feb. A deadly outside shooter who is 1 of the most respectful young men that you could ever meet off the court. But don't let his smile fool you!

  He is joined by newcomers Ryan Carney, a  J.C. transfer that should be the 1st team E 8 wide reciever (when that team is announced) is an athletic 6'4" wing from Olean High School, that can do anything that is asked of him. Also new this year is Bradley Doyley. A cat quick point guard that will be called upon to spell Hamer. Peter Murphy, another Big from Lehman HS in the Bronx, should also compete immediatly for playing time.

   The rest of the roster is freshman and a transfer (remember "Chops" magicman) that will learn the BENGAL ways early when the BENGALS begin a "killer" non-conference schedule that includes game vs. 3 NCAA particapants from last year - Medaille, Eastern Conn and Hobart. AND 2 other teams, Coe College and Nazareth, that lost their conference Championships! There is not another team in the East, or probably the nation (correct me if I'm wrong magic/Pat)  that can boast a harder non-conference D3 schedule! Those are the D3 non-conference games on the BENGALS schedule this year. A combined record of 109 wins and 32 loses ( Coe 19-8, Eastern Conn 24-6, Medaille 25-3, Nazareth 18-9 and Hobart 23-6). An average of 21 plus wins for these 5 teams last season. BENGALS newcomers better be ready to learn quick!

   Oh..And last but certainly not least...there is Jake Simmons (remind me magicman to never tell you anything again  :-X :-[ >:( ). He is officially a member of this years team. To be honest it should have never been an issue but......! dcahill...jake will be the only 3 time ALL SUNYAC player on any gym floor this year. SUNYAC - Rookie of the year in 09-10 when  he was 3rd in scoring, 1st in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals as a FRESHMAN!!. Followed that in his sophomore year with - 1st team All SUNYAC in 10-11 - 2nd in scoring, 5th in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals and again last year he was 1st team All SUNYAC  again while being  the 2nd leading scorer in Sunyac along with 1st in 3 pt fg made, 3rd in steals AND 1st in Ft %. Dcahil..now you may understand why magicman posed his question earlier his week AND why Pat Coleman did his due diligence to find out why Jake wasn't recommended by his S.I.D. for any pre-season honors. Jake is less than 150 pts from breaking the all-time Buffalo State scoring record which is currently held by former NBA all-star and Iron Man RANDY SMITH! Jake has 1,565 pts and Randy has 1,712. Sometime between their Miami trip (vs Eastern Conn and Coe) and their visit to Cortland/Oswego I expect that record to be broken!

   And... as good a player as Jake is , he is even a better person (ask magicman).

   This time tommorrow the roster and photos and all that good stuff should be up on the BENGALS website (love those orange jerseys). The 'Yac is 1 of the toughest conferences in the country and there are a ton of loaded teams in the conf (See Postdam, Plattsburgh, Cortland, Oswego, Brockport...you get the picture) this season. Dcahill. not sure what team you live near but be sure you catch some of the best basketball that the NCAA offers. I hope I answered your question!

  And magicman..I'll deal with you 12/8! ;) ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 03:08:30 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 07:47:33 PM
Who else does Buffalo State have Besides Jake Simmons

  Well let me answer that question for you dcahill! And by the way..welcome to the D3hoops and the SUNYAC boards!

  Returning with Jake this year. Is 6'4" Sophomore Roderick Epps. Last season he was 2nd on the team in 3pt field goals (behind Jake Simmons Conference leading 3.67 made per game). Rod has worked hard during the off season and his ability to get his shot off in traffic, and or attack the basket, reminds some folks at Buffalo State of Chris Cartwright. Chris teamed with Jake in 10-11 to form 1 of the toughest backcourts in Sunyac history (both made 1st team ALL-SUNYAC that season, along with a NCAA "sweet 16" appearance).

   Also returning is Senior - Seth Runge. At 6'8" 260 lbs,  Seth is the "Anchor" of the BENGALS defense. This kid is in the best shape of his college career and is running the floor like Coach Ansari had hoped he would when he first arrived at Buffalo State. There is not a kid on this team that has worked harder during the off-season than Seth and I feel that his efforts will be rewarded.

  The other returning senior is Anthony "Ant" Hamer. He will usually be the smallest player on the court unless you measure heart! Then he gets considerably bigger. He will be the BENGALS floor general this season and the BENGAL faithful feel that his 3 years of playing behind Norm Simmons has prepared him well for taking the leadership role that Coach Ansari has entrusted him with.

  The next returnee is Sophomore 6'7" Anyar Majak. The shot blocking phenom from Jefferson high school, Rochester Ny, has shown that he is ready to assume his rightfull place in the BENGALS starting line-up. Last year he was hot and cold. A Double Double against Houghton and then 2 pts 3 boards in the next game. This season do not expect him to be anything but consistent.

   Also returning is Soph Maurice Miles. This 6'4" swingman can play anything from the 1 to the 4. And expect him to play them all. The same should be said for Chris Castren, a junior from Voorheesville, Ny. Last year a damaged shoulder ended his season in Feb. A deadly outside shooter who is 1 of the most respectful young men that you could ever meet off the court. But don't let his smile fool you!

  He is joined by newcomers Ryan Carney, a  J.C. transfer that should be the 1st team E 8 wide reciever (when that team is announced) is an athletic 6'4" wing from Olean High School, that can do anything that is asked of him. Also new this year is Bradley Doyley. A cat quick point guard that will be called upon to spell Hamer. Peter Murphy, another Big from Lehman HS in the Bronx, should also compete immediatly for playing time.

   The rest of the roster is freshman and a transfer (remember "Chops" magicman) that will learn the BENGAL ways early when the BENGALS begin a "killer" non-conference schedule that includes game vs. 3 NCAA particapants from last year - Medaille, Eastern Conn and Hobart. AND 2 other teams, Coe College and Nazareth, that lost their conference Championships! There is not another team in the East, or probably the nation (correct me if I'm wrong magic/Pat)  that can boast a harder non-conference D3 schedule! Those are the D3 non-conference games on the BENGALS schedule this year. A combined record of 109 wins and 32 loses ( Coe 19-8, Eastern Conn 24-6, Medaille 25-3, Nazareth 18-9 and Hobart 23-6). An average of 21 plus wins for these 5 teams last season. BENGALS newcomers better be ready to learn quick!

   Oh..And last but certainly not least...there is Jake Simmons (remind me magicman to never tell you anything again  :-X :-[ >:( ). He is officially a member of this years team. To be honest it should have never been an issue but......! dcahill...jake will be the only 3 time ALL SUNYAC player on any gym floor this year. SUNYAC - Rookie of the year in 09-10 when  he was 3rd in scoring, 1st in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals as a FRESHMAN!!. Followed that in his sophomore year with - 1st team All SUNYAC in 10-11 - 2nd in scoring, 5th in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals and again last year he was 1st team All SUNYAC  again while being  the 2nd leading scorer in Sunyac along with 1st in 3 pt fg made, 3rd in steals AND 1st in Ft %. Dcahil..now you may understand why magicman posed his question earlier his week AND why Pat Coleman did his due diligence to find out why Jake wasn't recommended by his S.I.D. for any pre-season honors. Jake is less than 150 pts from breaking the all-time Buffalo State scoring record which is currently held by former NBA all-star and Iron Man RANDY SMITH! Jake has 1,565 pts and Randy has 1,712. Sometime between their Miami trip (vs Eastern Conn and Coe) and their visit to Cortland/Oswego I expect that record to be broken!

   And... as good a player as Jake is , he is even a better person (ask magicman).

   This time tommorrow the roster and photos and all that good stuff should be up on the BENGALS website (love those orange jerseys). The 'Yac is 1 of the toughest conferences in the country and there are a ton of loaded teams in the conf (See Postdam, Plattsburgh, Cortland, Oswego, Brockport...you get the picture) this season. Dcahill. not sure what team you live near but be sure you catch some of the best basketball that the NCAA offers. I hope I answered your question!

  And magicman..I'll deal with you 12/8! ;) ;D

I only have 2 things to say to you.

1. Read your PM's
2. PLattsburgh State has a tougher non conference schedule than Buff State.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 15, 2012, 08:26:21 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 07:47:33 PM
Who else does Buffalo State have Besides Jake Simmons

  Well let me answer that question for you dcahill! And by the way..welcome to the D3hoops and the SUNYAC boards!

  Returning with Jake this year. Is 6'4" Sophomore Roderick Epps. Last season he was 2nd on the team in 3pt field goals (behind Jake Simmons Conference leading 3.67 made per game). Rod has worked hard during the off season and his ability to get his shot off in traffic, and or attack the basket, reminds some folks at Buffalo State of Chris Cartwright. Chris teamed with Jake in 10-11 to form 1 of the toughest backcourts in Sunyac history (both made 1st team ALL-SUNYAC that season, along with a NCAA "sweet 16" appearance).

   Also returning is Senior - Seth Runge. At 6'8" 260 lbs,  Seth is the "Anchor" of the BENGALS defense. This kid is in the best shape of his college career and is running the floor like Coach Ansari had hoped he would when he first arrived at Buffalo State. There is not a kid on this team that has worked harder during the off-season than Seth and I feel that his efforts will be rewarded.

  The other returning senior is Anthony "Ant" Hamer. He will usually be the smallest player on the court unless you measure heart! Then he gets considerably bigger. He will be the BENGALS floor general this season and the BENGAL faithful feel that his 3 years of playing behind Norm Simmons has prepared him well for taking the leadership role that Coach Ansari has entrusted him with.

  The next returnee is Sophomore 6'7" Anyar Majak. The shot blocking phenom from Jefferson high school, Rochester Ny, has shown that he is ready to assume his rightfull place in the BENGALS starting line-up. Last year he was hot and cold. A Double Double against Houghton and then 2 pts 3 boards in the next game. This season do not expect him to be anything but consistent.

   Also returning is Soph Maurice Miles. This 6'4" swingman can play anything from the 1 to the 4. And expect him to play them all. The same should be said for Chris Castren, a junior from Voorheesville, Ny. Last year a damaged shoulder ended his season in Feb. A deadly outside shooter who is 1 of the most respectful young men that you could ever meet off the court. But don't let his smile fool you!

  He is joined by newcomers Ryan Carney, a  J.C. transfer that should be the 1st team E 8 wide reciever (when that team is announced) is an athletic 6'4" wing from Olean High School, that can do anything that is asked of him. Also new this year is Bradley Doyley. A cat quick point guard that will be called upon to spell Hamer. Peter Murphy, another Big from Lehman HS in the Bronx, should also compete immediatly for playing time.

   The rest of the roster is freshman and a transfer (remember "Chops" magicman) that will learn the BENGAL ways early when the BENGALS begin a "killer" non-conference schedule that includes game vs. 3 NCAA particapants from last year - Medaille, Eastern Conn and Hobart. AND 2 other teams, Coe College and Nazareth, that lost their conference Championships! There is not another team in the East, or probably the nation (correct me if I'm wrong magic/Pat)  that can boast a harder non-conference D3 schedule! Those are the D3 non-conference games on the BENGALS schedule this year. A combined record of 109 wins and 32 loses ( Coe 19-8, Eastern Conn 24-6, Medaille 25-3, Nazareth 18-9 and Hobart 23-6). An average of 21 plus wins for these 5 teams last season. BENGALS newcomers better be ready to learn quick!

   Oh..And last but certainly not least...there is Jake Simmons (remind me magicman to never tell you anything again  :-X :-[ >:( ). He is officially a member of this years team. To be honest it should have never been an issue but......! dcahill...jake will be the only 3 time ALL SUNYAC player on any gym floor this year. SUNYAC - Rookie of the year in 09-10 when  he was 3rd in scoring, 1st in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals as a FRESHMAN!!. Followed that in his sophomore year with - 1st team All SUNYAC in 10-11 - 2nd in scoring, 5th in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals and again last year he was 1st team All SUNYAC  again while being  the 2nd leading scorer in Sunyac along with 1st in 3 pt fg made, 3rd in steals AND 1st in Ft %. Dcahil..now you may understand why magicman posed his question earlier his week AND why Pat Coleman did his due diligence to find out why Jake wasn't recommended by his S.I.D. for any pre-season honors. Jake is less than 150 pts from breaking the all-time Buffalo State scoring record which is currently held by former NBA all-star and Iron Man RANDY SMITH! Jake has 1,565 pts and Randy has 1,712. Sometime between their Miami trip (vs Eastern Conn and Coe) and their visit to Cortland/Oswego I expect that record to be broken!

   And... as good a player as Jake is , he is even a better person (ask magicman).

   This time tommorrow the roster and photos and all that good stuff should be up on the BENGALS website (love those orange jerseys). The 'Yac is 1 of the toughest conferences in the country and there are a ton of loaded teams in the conf (See Postdam, Plattsburgh, Cortland, Oswego, Brockport...you get the picture) this season. Dcahill. not sure what team you live near but be sure you catch some of the best basketball that the NCAA offers. I hope I answered your question!

  And magicman..I'll deal with you 12/8! ;) ;D

Careful Bengals.  You're approaching Rust territory here.    ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2012, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2012, 03:08:30 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 07:47:33 PM
Who else does Buffalo State have Besides Jake Simmons


I only have 2 things to say to you.

1. Read your PM's
2. PLattsburgh State has a tougher non conference schedule than Buff State.

Ethelred..advice is duly noted! :D (I will tread carefully ;))

My buddy magicman :) ;) :D ;D...... In regards to who has the tougher non-conference D3 schedule??  In the words of College football "great" Lee Corso... "Not so fast there young man"!

Lets look at the schedule of your beloved Cards.

1st game vs Sage college (10-15 last season). Did someone say cupcake?? :o

2nd game vs either York (18-9 last season & NCAA's) or Norwich (5-19 last season). Potential championship game looks good but... :-\

  3rd game is a good 1 vs. Middlebury college (26-4) :D  No argument there. I'll be pulling for you guys (as always when you play your new Engalnd rival). Note : After 3 games my beloved BENGALS will have played 3 team with winning records.

    4th game vs. St. Lawrence (14-11 last season???) :o

     5th game vs Keene St ( 19-8 and from a very tough conf - Little East) :)

      6th game vs. Franklin and Marshall (18-8 and a "Elite 8" participant)..getting better magicman :D

       7th game could be either Salisbury (12-13) ::) or Eastern Conn (24-6 which we discussed in an earlier post) ;)

    7 games vs a potential list of 9 teams with a combined record of 146-93??? :o And if I "give" you the championship matchup vs. York (Cardinal Classic) and Eastern Conn (Sponagle tourney) and get rid of Norwich and Salisbury's record, then it's still 7 games vs. teams with a combined 129 wins and 61 losses (an avg of 18 wins and almost 9 losses?) ??? My math may be a lil off (I was  Sociology major :-[) but that pales in comaprison to 109-32 (an average of 21 wins and 6 losses).I guess thats why the play the games though.

    You were "almost" right on with postseason predictions (or as you say ..your "Wish list"). I do agree that seeing multiple "yac teams in the postseason is my hope also. I just envision a different team winning the "Yac championship game :D.

    And yea I got your p.m but if I don't bust your chops....then who will??? (although Ethelred may be good for a dig or 2 every now and then!) ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 15, 2012, 01:33:29 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2012, 02:33:05 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 14, 2012, 07:47:33 PM
Who else does Buffalo State have Besides Jake Simmons

  Well let me answer that question for you dcahill! And by the way..welcome to the D3hoops and the SUNYAC boards!

  Returning with Jake this year. Is 6'4" Sophomore Roderick Epps. Last season he was 2nd on the team in 3pt field goals (behind Jake Simmons Conference leading 3.67 made per game). Rod has worked hard during the off season and his ability to get his shot off in traffic, and or attack the basket, reminds some folks at Buffalo State of Chris Cartwright. Chris teamed with Jake in 10-11 to form 1 of the toughest backcourts in Sunyac history (both made 1st team ALL-SUNYAC that season, along with a NCAA "sweet 16" appearance).

   Also returning is Senior - Seth Runge. At 6'8" 260 lbs,  Seth is the "Anchor" of the BENGALS defense. This kid is in the best shape of his college career and is running the floor like Coach Ansari had hoped he would when he first arrived at Buffalo State. There is not a kid on this team that has worked harder during the off-season than Seth and I feel that his efforts will be rewarded.

  The other returning senior is Anthony "Ant" Hamer. He will usually be the smallest player on the court unless you measure heart! Then he gets considerably bigger. He will be the BENGALS floor general this season and the BENGAL faithful feel that his 3 years of playing behind Norm Simmons has prepared him well for taking the leadership role that Coach Ansari has entrusted him with.

  The next returnee is Sophomore 6'7" Anyar Majak. The shot blocking phenom from Jefferson high school, Rochester Ny, has shown that he is ready to assume his rightfull place in the BENGALS starting line-up. Last year he was hot and cold. A Double Double against Houghton and then 2 pts 3 boards in the next game. This season do not expect him to be anything but consistent.

   Also returning is Soph Maurice Miles. This 6'4" swingman can play anything from the 1 to the 4. And expect him to play them all. The same should be said for Chris Castren, a junior from Voorheesville, Ny. Last year a damaged shoulder ended his season in Feb. A deadly outside shooter who is 1 of the most respectful young men that you could ever meet off the court. But don't let his smile fool you!

  He is joined by newcomers Ryan Carney, a  J.C. transfer that should be the 1st team E 8 wide reciever (when that team is announced) is an athletic 6'4" wing from Olean High School, that can do anything that is asked of him. Also new this year is Bradley Doyley. A cat quick point guard that will be called upon to spell Hamer. Peter Murphy, another Big from Lehman HS in the Bronx, should also compete immediatly for playing time.

   The rest of the roster is freshman and a transfer (remember "Chops" magicman) that will learn the BENGAL ways early when the BENGALS begin a "killer" non-conference schedule that includes game vs. 3 NCAA particapants from last year - Medaille, Eastern Conn and Hobart. AND 2 other teams, Coe College and Nazareth, that lost their conference Championships! There is not another team in the East, or probably the nation (correct me if I'm wrong magic/Pat)  that can boast a harder non-conference D3 schedule! Those are the D3 non-conference games on the BENGALS schedule this year. A combined record of 109 wins and 32 loses ( Coe 19-8, Eastern Conn 24-6, Medaille 25-3, Nazareth 18-9 and Hobart 23-6). An average of 21 plus wins for these 5 teams last season. BENGALS newcomers better be ready to learn quick!

   Oh..And last but certainly not least...there is Jake Simmons (remind me magicman to never tell you anything again  :-X :-[ >:( ). He is officially a member of this years team. To be honest it should have never been an issue but......! dcahill...jake will be the only 3 time ALL SUNYAC player on any gym floor this year. SUNYAC - Rookie of the year in 09-10 when  he was 3rd in scoring, 1st in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals as a FRESHMAN!!. Followed that in his sophomore year with - 1st team All SUNYAC in 10-11 - 2nd in scoring, 5th in 3 pt fg made and 1st in steals and again last year he was 1st team All SUNYAC  again while being  the 2nd leading scorer in Sunyac along with 1st in 3 pt fg made, 3rd in steals AND 1st in Ft %. Dcahil..now you may understand why magicman posed his question earlier his week AND why Pat Coleman did his due diligence to find out why Jake wasn't recommended by his S.I.D. for any pre-season honors. Jake is less than 150 pts from breaking the all-time Buffalo State scoring record which is currently held by former NBA all-star and Iron Man RANDY SMITH! Jake has 1,565 pts and Randy has 1,712. Sometime between their Miami trip (vs Eastern Conn and Coe) and their visit to Cortland/Oswego I expect that record to be broken!

   And... as good a player as Jake is , he is even a better person (ask magicman).

   This time tommorrow the roster and photos and all that good stuff should be up on the BENGALS website (love those orange jerseys). The 'Yac is 1 of the toughest conferences in the country and there are a ton of loaded teams in the conf (See Postdam, Plattsburgh, Cortland, Oswego, Brockport...you get the picture) this season. Dcahill. not sure what team you live near but be sure you catch some of the best basketball that the NCAA offers. I hope I answered your question!

  And magicman..I'll deal with you 12/8! ;) ;D
I live In Oswego and I follow a lot oswego state and Nazerath
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 08:01:49 PM
Opening games tonight:

Cortland at Elmira. 8:00 PM         I have to believe the Red Dragons win this one by a large margin.

Fredonia at Hilbert 8:00 PM          Think the Blue Devils will prevail in a fairly close game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
Elmira trying for the upset as they lead the Red Dragons 29-25 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
Not sure what's going on with the Fredonia State-Hilbert game. No video, no live stats. SUNYAC page says that Fredonia doesn't play today. Hilbert schedule, Fredonia schedule and St John Fisher schedule all show Fredonia playing Hilbert tonight, Fredonia playing Fisher tomorrow night and Hilbert playing Fisher on Saturday at 1 PM. I'm guessing that the YAC site is wrong as it shows Fredonia playing on the 16th and 17th. Video link on the Fredonia site for tonight doesn't bring up the game. I'm confused. :o :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 15, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
Elmira is looking to stun the Red Dragons from Cortland this would be a big upset to start the Season
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
Cortland in a dogfight as they lead Elmira 48-47 with 4:37 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 09:40:19 PM
Jeremy Smith with 8 straight points for Cortland and the Red Dragons open up a 56-51 lead with 2:23 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 09:55:10 PM
Cortland holds off the Soaring Eagles as the Red Dragons made it interesting when they fouled Elmira behind the line when they were up 61-55 with 10 seconds left. Elmira's Josh Keys hit all 3 free throws to make it a 1 possession game. Elmira fouled on the inbounds pass and Jeremy Smith made both free throws to ice it for Cortland. Elmira with a basket with 2 seconds left for the final points of the game. Final score was 63-60. Smith led all scorers with 24 points. Jesse Winter had 14 for the Red Dragons. Josh Keys led Elmira with 15 points and Chris Cassidy added 13. I think Cortland is letting out a big sigh of relief right about now. Elmira certainly an improved team over last years 1-24 team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2012, 10:23:59 PM
I guess Fredonia is playing tonight as a halftime score was just posted showing Hilbert up 42-30 at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 16, 2012, 12:04:13 AM
Fredonia drops their opener to Hilbert 83-59.  Never a good start when a SUNYAC team loses to an AMCC team.

In Devil's defense, they had to reload, with huge grad losses.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2012, 11:10:11 AM
Slow start for the 'Yac (IMHO). Cortland squeaks by the Elmira and Fredonia gets crushed by Hilbert (whens the last time Hilbert "crushed" anyone?).

Hopefully tonite we have better results with....

Oneonta at Scranton
Ithaca at Potsdam (I imagine thebear has his game face/voice ready!) ;)
New Paltz at Nazareth (hmmmmm)
D'Youville at Oswego (1 AMCC victory over he 'Yac is enough for this year.)
The Sage Colleges at Plattsburgh ( see the magicman)

I'll leave all predictions to the magicman! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 16, 2012, 11:45:00 AM
Thanks Bengals, will be MIA tonight, but I will be following on my laptop, wife had a medical problem, had to have surgery and is in the hospital for a bit.  Hoping my Bears make a good showing against a good team.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2012, 01:40:55 PM
Sorry to hear about the wife. I'm sure all will be well! Here's hoping that Potsdam does us all proud tonite!!! I'll be keeping an eye on them via live stats!

Here's hoping the wife gets better real soon! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2012, 01:51:00 PM
Cortland with plenty of vets tested by equally veteran but younger Elmirans (14 returnees). RDragons going uphill from the moment Eagles D. Vogel and K. Dutcher nailed game-opening triples. Twas 29-25 at the half. First Corts lead at 33-31 on J. Smith 'three'. Elmirans led as late as 49-48 on C. Cassidy bucket. Think Smith then scored eight straight. Dragons up 59-53 at 0:56 and 61-55 at 0:41. Pesky Elmira actually made hay at expense of Dragons' strength -- treys,  Eagles 10x22 from beyond the arc, CSt 8x22. Differing edge: Corts 11x18ft, Eagles 6x7.

Newcomer for Cortland .......as if it needs backcourt help ......soph L. Herron with 9 pts(4x8fg) in 18'. Smith 8x12fg, 4x7 3s, J. Winter 7x8ft, 3assts; H. Hefele 5 rebs, 7 pts. Elmira's C. Cassidy 8 rebs; J. Keys 4x6 3s.

And, yes, Bear, get the family up and running!! Health to you and yours ...... Should be a good one tween touted Bombers and the 'Dam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
Nazareth over New Paltz
Scranton over Oneonta
Ithaca over Potsdam
             
Hope I'm wrong on those three. I think Potsdam and New Paltz will put up a good fight. Not so sure about Oneonta.

Oswego over D'Youville
Plattsburgh over Sage

These last two should be by sizable margins, although Plattsburgh is without the services of 3 key players this weekend, including two of their top scorers from last year.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 16, 2012, 05:59:57 PM
And above all Happy Birthday Magic.  You once again gone ahead in the age race by one year.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2012, 10:36:41 PM

Oswego 122, D'Youville 72  after Morrisville over Medgar Evers 87-59

Plattsburgh 80, Sage Colleges 62

Ithaca 79, Potsdam 69

St. John Fisher 79, Fredonia 60

Nazareth 90, New Paltz 69

Scranton 63, Oneonta 55 after Baruch over York, Pa. 72-55
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
Oswego 122, D'Youville 72  after Morrisville over Medgar Evers 87-59 (obviously not the same Medgar Evers team that beat Oswego last year.)

Plattsburgh 80, Sage Colleges 62      after York (NY) beat Norwich 69-59

Ithaca 76 Potsdam 69      slight correction from jdex's post.

St. John Fisher 79, Fredonia 60

Nazareth 90, New Paltz 69

Scranton 63, Oneonta 55 after Baruch over York, Pa. 72-55

Pretty much what I expected the YAC teams to do tonight. Bengalsrule never listed the Fredonia game in his schedule that he posted but after losing last night to Hilbert I wouldn't have picked them over Fisher.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2012, 01:03:17 AM
Plattsburgh State's Cardinal Classic has certainly got the right name as tomorrow's championship game will feature the Cardinals vs the Cardinals as Plattsburgh won their game against Sage 80-62 to advance against York (NY) who defeated Norwich 69-59.

Norwich will take on Sage at 2:00 PM and the Cardinals of Plattsburgh will meet the Cardinals of York at 4:00 PM.

Plattsburgh State dressed 13 players for the game and everyone of them saw action. Ezra Hodgson opened the scoring for Plattsburgh 29 seconds into the game, scored the Cards first 6 points and also had the Cards final basket with 48 seconds remaining in the game. In between he nailed 5 other buckets and ended up with 20 points, a career high, to lead the team. The Cardinals were without the services of their top 2 players from last year, John Perez and Shavar Fields as well as instant offense off the bench, Gary Tibbs. Hodgson was the go to guy tonight and he came through in a big way. Shamoy McIntosh continued where he left off last year as he came off the bench to score 15 points while adding 4 steals and 3 rebounds. Sophomore Jordan Moody, in his first start in a Cardinal uniform had 12 points and with big man Reggie Williams in foul trouble all night, the Cardinals turned to soph Alan Siergiej, a transfer from New Paltz and Siergiej responded with his career high in points with 10, along with 8 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. Two other transfers had a productive night as they started their Plattsburgh careers. Kalik Parker was a perfect 5 for 5 from the line and finished with 8 points and 3 rebounds in 12 minutes of play. Chris Manning played 23 minutes and dished out 6 assists, with 3 steals, 3 boards and 3 points. Regular point guard Mike Mitchell had 5 assists and 3 points. Cards shot 42% from the field (29x69) only 23% from beyond the arc (6x26) and 76% from the line (16x21). They had 40 rebounds to 41 for the Gators but won the turnover battle as the Cards had 13 TO's while Sage had 25. 

Sage was led by their 6'8" center Ryan Sager who had a game high 25 points and 7 rebounds. North Country product Matt Farbotko (Northeastern Clinton Central School) had 14 points and 7 rebounds. Mason Horne added 10 points and 7 boards. Sage shot 39% from the field (20x51), 22% from the 3 poont line (2x9) and 64% from the stripe (20x31).

Plattsburgh will get two of their three missing players back for the game against York. Perez will not return until the Middlebury game on the 25th. Think the game will be competitive but feel the Cards will prevail.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2012, 02:10:20 AM
bear, thanks for the birthday wish. It's official I am now an old man and have my medicare card. You can join me next year. ;D 

Looks like Potsdam getting immediate return on new transfer, Mark Lake. Tight game through the first 27 minutes before Bombers opened up a 13 point lead. Bears wouldn't go away and got it to within 6 but too much to overcome. Lake with 21 to share game's scoring honors with Ithaca's Travis Warech. Lake also added 5 assists and was 3x4 from downtown. Potsdam with 8 point lead late in the first half let Bombers close the gap but still go into the break up 33-29. Bombers shoot 15x20 in the first ten minutes of the 2nd half to open up 11 point lead. Bears 7x14 during that stretch with 8 turnovers to 4 for Ithaca. That was the turning point of the game. Bears Curtis Pierce with 15 pts, 8 boards, 5 steals and 3 assists. Rob Duquette with 10 points and 7 boards, and Colin Peterson with 11 points. Foul line was another telling statistic. Bombers 22x34 from the stripe. Bears only got 16 attempts makng 7. Final margin of victory was 7 points for Ithaca but they had more than twice as many free throw attempts and the 15 point differential at the line will in most instances put you on the short end of the score. I know the Bears fouled toward the end of the game but even prior to that Ithaca had more than twice as many free throws than Potsdam. I'm thinking the Potsdam faithful were probably not to happy with the guys in striped shirts.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2012, 03:07:40 AM
Oswego crushes D'Youville as their 8 bench players score no less than 7 pts  and as much as 18 points with 4 of them in double figures.  Zach D'Alessandro had 18 points, Rashawn Powell had 13 pts and 8 rebounds,  Kyle Covley had 12 pts with 4 boards, and Justin Haight had 11 pts, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. Daniel Ross had 9 pts, 7 reb, and 3 steals, while Elijiah McLaurin had 8 pts, 5 reb, 5 assists, and 3 steals. Alex Rawa had 7 pts,  5 assists, with 4 boards and Walter Sampson had 7 pts and 4 assists. The bench played 121 total minutes and the starters played 79 total minutes. Starting forward Hayden Ward played 19 minutes and had 16 points and 8 rebounds.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 17, 2012, 10:52:29 AM
Geneseo and NYU could be an interesting game watch Kyle Stockmal good player for NYU
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2012, 03:50:04 PM

Cortland crushes Utica ......97-85 or 97-84 ..........RDragons in 47-36 halftime command as defense takes a breather in this Saturday matinee. CSt quickly extends lead to 20 plus. UC within a dozen with two minutes plus left. Corts shoot at 36x67 clip from the field, 12x30 in threes. B. Manning 25 pts(8x11fg, 6x9 3s); J. Winter 10 assts, 16 pts, 3 stls; J. Smith 14 pts, 7 assts, 3 stls; K. McMahon 13 pts, 11 rebs; L. Herron 11 pts, 6 rebs. H. Hefele 10 pts. UC newcomer C. Maisch 22 pts(6x9 3s), 6 rebs; J. Ward 17 pts, 5 rebs; C. Jeffers 8 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2012, 04:15:13 PM
Cortland 97, Utica 84

Berkeley (from Hudson Valley AC) 95, Potsdam 85

NYU 84, Geneseo 74. Tourney host Violets hold 43-38 intermission edge and in charge thereafter, with Gens' nearest approach 63-58 at 7:59 to go. Knights J. Jones 17 pts(6x10fg); G. Lyons 15 pts(6x11fg), 7 rebs; R. Riefenhauser 13 pts(6x11fg), 8 rebs;  reserve A. Drescher 11 pts(3x3 3s). NYU 31x53fg, 8x17 3s. Gens 28x60fg, 5x13 3s. NYU vs. John Jay (70-68 over Gwynned-Mercy) in final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2012, 04:33:49 PM
Oneonta takes consi contest over York, Pa. 92-77 at Scranton tourney. Dragons on Friday night held four point halftime lead against Scranton until succumbing. But OSt was 51-44 halftime leader vs. York and built a win. Shoots 34x53fg, 16x27 3s paced by J. Zuvic 22 pts(10x13fg) in 24'. Z. Mager with 21 pts(7x8fg, 5x5 3s); F. Kelley 12 of Dragons' 29. Scranton takes title by 81-69 over Baruch

Plattsburgh 77, York, NY 70 for crown after Sage defeats Norwich, Vt 72-48 in consi
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2012, 07:32:05 PM
Plattsburgh in  a tough game against York College (NY) but finally prevail 77-70 to win their own tournament . Balanced scoring throughout the lineup led by Cardinal Classic MVP Chris Manning with 11 pts, 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 6 steals. Shamoy McIntosh had 11 pts, and Shavar Fields returned to the lineup and also had 10 pts. Yesterday's leading scorer for the Cards, Ezra Hodgson, had 9 points with 7 rebounds and was named to the all tourney team. Gary Tibbs made his season debut as well and within seconds of his entrance scored and grabbed some key boards. He finished with 6 pts, 4 boards, 2 steals and a block in 17 minutes.

Since both teams are called Cardinals only Plattsburgh will be referred to as the Cardinals to make this easier to follow. Plattsburgh grabbed the early lead but York fought back to tie it up. Cardinals opened up a 10 point lead halfway through the period and reached their largest advantage at 31-20 with 5 minutes left in the half. They went into the break up 41-32. Cardinals got scoring from 10 different players while most of York's points came from Tony Vails who had 18 in the first half. Shamir Wilkinson, and Jose Arroyo had 5 points each to to account for 28 of York's 32 points.

The York team came out of the break on fire.  With Vails and Wilkinson leading the way, they quickly closed the gap to 41-40 and after several ties and chances to grab the lead, they finally did so at 49-47 on a basket by Wilkinson. The teams traded leads briefly and the Cards finally went on top for good 52-51, on a Manning basket with 9:50 to play. It was still just a 2 pt. Card lead at 62-60 with 5:24 left when Manning hit 2 free throws, McIntosh nailed a 3 pointer,  and Hodgson hit another triple 24 seconds later and just like that it was 70-60. That was the winning move as York couldn't get any closer than 6 points the rest of the way. A Wilkinson basket cut it to 76-70 with 59 ticks left but strangely York didn't foul and used up way to much clock trying to play D so that when they got the ball back after a Plattsburgh missed field goal they had to rush up the florr and ended up turning the ball over. This time they did foul and Moody made 1 of 2 for the final points. Cards shot 49% from the field (25x51) 32% from the arc (8x25) and 59.4% from the line (19x32). They were beat off the boards by a sizable margin 48-31. They did win the turnover battle again though with 16 TO's to 23 for York.

York is a decent team with 2 very good players. Tony Vails is only 6 feet tall but plays much bigger and can beat you with the 3 pointer, an assortment of drives to the basket or a nice pull up jumper. He led all scorers with 27 points on 9x16 fg, 2x4 3's and 7x11 ft. He had 4 rebounds, 4 steals, and 3 assists and played 39 minutes. Shamir Wilkinson is their Mr. Inside as this 6'6" center can also hurt you with his outside shooting or post up moves. He had 17 points and finished with a double-double as he led all players with 10 rebounds. These 2 players accounted for York's first 20 points (17 by Vails) as no one else on the team scored for the first 15:21 of the game. York shot 41% from the field (25x61) 30.8% from the arc (4x13) and 55.2% from the line (16x29). I think York will have a better season in the CUNYAC than they did last year.

Plattsburgh State is off until next Sunday when they host #4 Middlebury at Memorial Hall.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2012, 09:43:37 PM

Oswego 83, Morrisville 59 in OSt tourney final.

Consi: M. Evers 100, D'Youville 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
   Cortland, Oswego and Plattsburgh begin the season undefeated and with 2-0 records to boot! Cortland seemed to have the toughest win of the 3 but 2 wins are 2 wins (I'll take it). I have no doubt that magicman had his favorite seat behind the cards bench, (during their Cardinal Classic tourney wins)....about 8/9 rows up from Curle.

   Initially I thought that New Paltz's victory, over last years NCAA participant St. Josephs L.I., was an eye opener. Until I rememebered magimans sage advice about looking at some of these great teams from last season and see who they lost from their roster (specifically starters)! After "close" examination of their roster from last year I noticed that their, St Joe's, top 6 scorers were all seniors (good observation magicman)! Similar stats for York (PA) another NCAA paticipant that Oneonta beat! No matter how you slice it those were good wins for both (New Paltz and Oneonta).

   Hopefully Posdam will get on their winning ways on, or after, Dec 8th. (couldn't pass that 1 up bear :D) Taking Ithaca down to the end was no small task! Pierce's 36 pts (both games) and Duquette's 24 (both) give all SUNYAC teams reason for concern. It appears transfer Mark Lake (33 points combined) is a nice addition to the Bears line-up!

   Fredonia is usually a slow starter (2 of their last 3 seasons began 0-3). Hopefully they will get a handle on their team around Jan 20th!

   Can't get any results from Geneseo's website other than the score, a loss at NYU! But they are returning 1 heck of a squad!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2012, 03:30:18 PM

Geneseo tops Gwynedd-Mercy 99-77 in NYU tourney consi on Sunday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2012, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
   Cortland, Oswego and Plattsburgh begin the season undefeated and with 2-0 records to boot! Cortland seemed to have the toughest win of the 3 but 2 wins are 2 wins (I'll take it). I have no doubt that magicman had his favorite seat behind the cards bench, (during their Cardinal Classic tourney wins)....about 8/9 rows up from Curle.

   Initially I thought that New Paltz's victory, over last years NCAA participant St. Josephs L.I., was an eye opener. Until I rememebered magimans sage advice about looking at some of these great teams from last season and see who they lost from their roster (specifically starters)! After "close" examination of their roster from last year I noticed that their, St Joe's, top 6 scorers were all seniors (good observation magicman)! Similar stats for York (PA) another NCAA paticipant that Oneonta beat! No matter how you slice it those were good wins for both (New Paltz and Oneonta).

   Hopefully Posdam will get on their winning ways on, or after, Dec 8th. (couldn't pass that 1 up bear :D) Taking Ithaca down to the end was no small task! Pierce's 36 pts (both games) and Duquette's 24 (both) give all SUNYAC teams reason for concern. It appears transfer Mark Lake (33 points combined) is a nice addition to the Bears line-up!

   Fredonia is usually a slow starter (2 of their last 3 seasons began 0-3). Hopefully they will get a handle on their team around Jan 20th!

   Can't get any results from Geneseo's website other than the score, a loss at NYU! But they are returning 1 heck of a squad!

Who are you referring to, Geneseo or NYU?  I think you're talking about Geneseo but both teams returned a lot of talent. NYU has 4 of their 5 starters back from last year's NCAA team that went 21-6 and will once again be very competitive in the UAA conference. The Blue Devils, 84-74 loss at NYU isn't too bad and will make them tougher in the long run.

I did occupy my usual spot behind the Cards bench  this weekend and got to see four decent games. None of them were blowouts and all 4 teams had some outstanding performers. Happy that the Cardinals won their classic. I expected them to do so and they didn't disappoint. Lots of things to still work on with this young team. Not happy that they were beaten in the rebounding department in both games. We were missing our best rebounder for both contests, so hopefully when John Perez returns, that negative will disappear. Middlebury is up next for Plattsburgh and they're a big team with good guards. Crashing the boards will be especially important against the Panthers. They also opened up with 2 wins over the weekend and were missing one of their big men who is out for 2 months with a broken forearm. They have such a wealth of big men that I don't think they will miss him all that much.  I expect practice will be intense for the young Cardinals this week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2012, 05:42:50 PM
When is Perez due back? 12/9..12/10?? :D

And yes, I was talking about Geneseo. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2012, 01:48:43 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2012, 05:42:50 PM
When is Perez due back? 12/9..12/10?? :D

And yes, I was talking about Geneseo. ;)

You wish!! :P   He'll be back in plenty of time for your Bengals. :-*
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
4 games on tap tommorrow as the 'Yac tries to improve on their 9-7 non-conference record.

  New Paltz faces off against Mt. St. Marys college. Last year, Mt. St. Mary's went 23-7 and they have a win over L.L. member St. Lawrence this season. All SUNYAC Matt devine is off to a hot start averaging over 21 pts per contest. He has the help of Shereef Taylor, who sat out last year, who has also chipped in 16 per in their 1st 2 games!

  Brockport opens their season by paying a visit to Baruch College (1-1) out of the CUNYAC! Looking for Derek Klein and Jon Ivy to lead the way for the Golden Eagles.

  Fredonia should get on track when they face D'Youville at home. 1 player on Fredonia's squad that has caught the attention of 'Yac watchers is J.C. Transfer Tyrone Clark. He is averaging a team leading 12 pts per game while hitting on 11 - 13 from the field (85%). Methinks that he can only get better!

and last but not least......(drumroll please :D )

  The Buffalo State BENGALS. They travel to Hobart (pre-season #36 ranked team in D3). Last time the BENGALS visited Hobart (Jan 5th 2010) the game went Double OT. Hobart squeaked 1 out (99-97) with Hobart freshman Stephon Thompson scoring 29 pts and BENGAL freshman Jake Simmons scoring 21 pts. Look for (now) seniors Thompson and Simmons to go at it 1 more time in this I-90 battle. Here's hoping that the supporting cast of the BENGALS can give Jake enough help to make this contest interesting!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week has been announced and not really a surprise as Jeremy Smith from Cortland State captures the season's first award. Here's the write up from the YAC page:

Jeremy Smith has been picked as the SUNYAC Men's Basketball Player of the Week. Smith averaged 19 points and 4.5 assists per game and shot 54 percent from three-point range in a 2-0 week for the Red Dragons. He scored 22 of his game-high 24 points in the second half in Cortland's season-opening 63-60 win at Elmira. He added 14 points and matched his career high with seven assists in a 97-84 win at Utica.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2012, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2012, 08:51:25 PM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week has been announced and not really a surprise as Jeremy Smith from Cortland State captures the season's first award. Here's the write up from the YAC page:

Jeremy Smith has been picked as the SUNYAC Men's Basketball Player of the Week. Smith averaged 19 points and 4.5 assists per game and shot 54 percent from three-point range in a 2-0 week for the Red Dragons. He scored 22 of his game-high 24 points in the second half in Cortland's season-opening 63-60 win at Elmira. He added 14 points and matched his career high with seven assists in a 97-84 win at Utica.

Looks like Smith pretty much saved the day vs. Elmira. Congrats to 1 heck of a shooter! Well deserved ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 05:58:41 PM
Buffalo State at Hobart     7:00 PM

I'd feel a lot better about this game if the Bengals had opened up last weekend with a couple of games like the Statesmen did. Spread has Hobart favored by 6.5 but I want to root for the Bengals so I'm picking them to squeak one out 78-76. I think Jake Simmons and Rod Epps will have a big night.

Mount St. Mary at New Paltz State 7:00 PM

The Mount split their first 2 games beating St. Lawrence by double digits and hanging with Rochester (only down by 6 late in the game). New Paltz also opened with a split losing by double digits to Nazareth and then beating St Joe's (L.I.) 96-76. The spread has the Knights favored by 5.  St Joe's and the Mount are both in the same league (Skyline Conference) which St Joe's won last year and went to the NCAA tournament. However this year's St Joe's team is nothing like the team that went 21-5 last season. They lost their top 7 players and are in a complete rebuilding mode. Mount St Mary returns quite a bit of last years squad that went 23-7. The teams are fairly evenly matched but I think the Hawks might come out on the short end of this one,  75-72. 

Brockport State at Baruch  7:30 PM

Another game that should be close. Both teams lost a lot to graduation. Baruch is favored by 2 pts. I'll pick Brockport but again it's a case of Baruch already having 2 games to work out some problems, while the Golden Eagles have yet to play a game. Port 71-68.

D'Youville at Fredonia State   8:00 PM

Somebody will break into the win column tonight. Both teams suffered a pair of opening weekend losses. Freds averaging about 60 ppg D'Youville scoring about 70 ppg. The Spartans giving up over 100 ppg, Fredonia yielding about 80 per game. Blue Devils are favored by 5 and that's who I have to go with. It's going to be a long season for the Blue Devils, they need to take their wins when they can and tonight will probably be their best opportunity.  67-63 will be the final.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 08:00:57 PM
Buffalo State trailing Hobart 43-35 at the half. Roderick Epps leads the Bengals with 13 points and Jake Simmons. has 8. Simmons scored all his points in a 2 minute stretch that gave Buffalo State a 21-17 lead after they trailed early 7-0. Trailing 11-10 the Bengals hit 3 consecutive 3 pointers, 1 by Epps and 2 by Simmons followed by a jumper by Simmons to grab their biggest lead of the period. Hobart came right back thanks to 4 straight Bengal turnovers and went in front 30-22. The Statesmen stretched their lead to 11 at 43-32 just before the half and the Bengals narrowed it to 8 when Chris Castren hit a 3 pointer with 30 seconds left.

Hobart has 10 points from Cole Smothers and 8 points from Connor Rehbaum. Hobart also guilty of too many turnovers. Statemen have 14, Bengals have 12. Video is available but only if you want to buy it. :P :o Hobart must want to soak their alumni. ;D Who else is going to pay. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 08:27:36 PM
Brockport leading Baruch 31-27 at the break. Closely contested 1st period with numerous ties and several lead changes. Brockport finally gets a little breathing room with about a minute left to play at 31-25 for the biggest margin of the half and Baruch hits 2 free throws to narrow the gap. Lance Legister with almost half of Brockport's point total has 15 on 6x10 shooting and 3x4 from the line. No other Golden Eagle with more than 4. Joshua Vital leads Baruch with 8 pts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 08:34:34 PM
Fueled by 10 2nd half points by big man Anyar Majak and 7 by guard Anthony Hamer, Buffalo State has chargedfrom an 8 point halftime deficit to an 8 point advantage as they now lead Hobart 68-60 with 3:37 left in the game. Go Bengals!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 08:40:57 PM
Fredonia leading D'Youville 50-19 still in the 1st half. Looks like an offensive explosion by the Blue Devils.

Blue Devils up 50-25 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Brockport has opened up a 9 point lead over Baruch 46-37 with 12:05 to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
My first final score prediction of the season came pretty darn close as Buffalo State defeats Hobart 80-74. I called it 78-76 in favor of the Bengals. My total of 154 was right on the money. I did say that Jake Simmons and Rod Epps would lead the way and the youngsters didn't disappoint me as Rod led the Bengals with 18 points and Jake was close behind with 16. (If it sounds like I'm tooting my own horn, well I am.) Ant Hamer finished with 11 and 3 other players, Anyar Majak, Seth Runge, and Brad Doyley all finished with 10 each to make it 6 players in double figures for the Bengals. Despite the loss of Justin Mitchell and Nico McLean to this year's Bengal squad it would appear that all is still well in the Queen city as they take down the Liberty League preseason favorites on the road. Congrats to the Bengals for a stirring comeback and a job well done. I know a certain Bengal supporter that will be sleeping quite well tonight. (After he's partied hearty) ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2012, 09:53:50 PM
New Paltz loses in OT to Mount St. Mary 83-81. Hawks let a 16 point halftime lead, 39-23, dwindle away as they get outscored in the 2nd half 48-32. The Knights buried a trifecta with 9 seconds left in regulation to tie the game up at 71 apiece. In the extra period the Hawks scored first but the Knights ran off 7 unanswered points to go up 78-73 and the Hawks never caught up. Up 5, with 2 seconds play, New Paltz got a triple from Matt Devine at the buzzer, to make a little closer. I had this game 75-72 in favor of the Knights and my total was pretty close at the end of regulation.

Fredonia wins big against D'Youville by a score of 91-60. I had it closer and smaller with the Freds winning 67-63. The last time Fredonia scored more than 75 points was almost a year ago and that was against, you guessed it, D'Youville, when they won 89-72 on Nov.22, 2011.. I just should have looked that up before I made my guess. :D



So much for my predictions as Brockport blows a 9 point lead and falls to Baruch on the road 64-58. Definitly one that the Golden Eagles let slip away. Eagles up 46-37 with 12 minutes left, get outscored  17-4 over the next 7 minutes to fall behind 53-50. Baruch's lead grew to 57-52 and Port  got it to within 2 at 57-55 but the Bearcats hit their free throws and shut the door on Brockport's attempted comeback. This team owes me one as they spoiled my perfect night. >:(

Oh well as Meat Loaf said, "3 outta 4 ain't bad". (I know, I know, it was 2 outta 3 in the song) ::)

I'll fill in some stats later if no one else does them.

Random notes:

Brockport game and the New Paltz game have quite a discrepancy at the stripe.

Brockport was 8x16 from the line while Baruch was 22x31. Seems a little one sided and it wasn't because there was a big foul parade at the end of the game either. Golden Eagles had 3 players in double figures led by Lance Legister with 20 pts. Bobby Bell had 14 pts, 5 rebounds and 3 steals. John Ivy had 10 pts and 7 boards. Eagles must have played a lot of 1 on 1 or hoisted some quick shots as they only had 9 assists as a team. Baruch even worse with only 7 assists. Both teams with mucho turnovers 19 for Port and 21 for Baruch.

New Paltz only went to the line 10 times and made 7 of their attempts. Mount St Mary had 28 free throws and made 20 of them. That's a lot of free throws to overcome. Shareef Taylor led the Hawks with 25 pts, 7 boards, 4 steals, 2 assists and a block. Matt Devine had a double-double with 24 pts and 10 rebounds. Deveino McRae had 10 pts on 5x6 shooting.

Tyrone Clark and Dalton Cashmere both scored 16 pts to lead Fredonia in its' win over D'Youville. Amir Billups added 15 pts and Robert Lyles added 10. Joe Monahan had 9 pts, 7 assists and 3 steals.

SUNYAC has now compiled an 11-9 out of conference schedule. That needs to get better. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
My first final score prediction of the season came pretty darn close as Buffalo State defeats Hobart 80-74. I called it 78-76 in favor of the Bengals. My total of 154 was right on the money. I did say that Jake Simmons and Rod Epps would lead the way and the youngsters didn't disappoint me as Rod led the Bengals with 18 points and Jake was close behindMagicman...... with 16. (If it sounds like I'm tooting my own horn, well I am.) Ant Hamer finished with 11 and 3 other players, Anyar Majak, Seth Runge, and Brad Doyley all finished with 10 each to make it 6 players in double figures for the Bengals. Despite the loss of Justin Mitchell and Nico McLean to this year's Bengal squad it would appear that all is still well in the Queen city as they take down the Liberty League preseason favorites on the road. Congrats to the Bengals for a stirring comeback and a job well done. I know a certain Bengal supporter that will be sleeping quite well tonight. (After he's partied hearty) ;D


Magicman...truer words have been spoken. It was a good game indeed. At the half it seemed like Hobart was in the drivers seat. Shooting 53% from the field to the Bengals 42% coupled with a ft advantage of 7/9  to 3/4 for the Bengals made for a concerned group. However the 2nd half saw a Bengals team with a renewed commitment to defense and to getting the ball inside to Majak and Runge. Majak had zero attempts at half and Runge was 3 for 3. Second half they finished with a combined 10 of 15 for 20 pts.

    After allowing Hobart to shoot better than 50% in the first half the Beengals held them to 33% in the 2nd and 25% from beyond the arc. All Bengal starters scored in double figures along with freshman Bradley Doyley who chipped in 10  (after going scoreless in the first half).

  After a quick Thanksgiving break its back on the hardwoods Friday to prepare for Nazareth and Medaille. Partying???? Naw. Gonna rent the movie "Prometheus",  cuddle up with the missus and breathe a sigh of relief!!!! Its good to get the first 1 out of the way!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2012, 02:06:44 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2012, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
My first final score prediction of the season came pretty darn close as Buffalo State defeats Hobart 80-74. I called it 78-76 in favor of the Bengals. My total of 154 was right on the money. I did say that Jake Simmons and Rod Epps would lead the way and the youngsters didn't disappoint me as Rod led the Bengals with 18 points and Jake was close behindMagicman...... with 16. (If it sounds like I'm tooting my own horn, well I am.) Ant Hamer finished with 11 and 3 other players, Anyar Majak, Seth Runge, and Brad Doyley all finished with 10 each to make it 6 players in double figures for the Bengals. Despite the loss of Justin Mitchell and Nico McLean to this year's Bengal squad it would appear that all is still well in the Queen city as they take down the Liberty League preseason favorites on the road. Congrats to the Bengals for a stirring comeback and a job well done. I know a certain Bengal supporter that will be sleeping quite well tonight. (After he's partied hearty) ;D


Magicman...truer words have been spoken. It was a good game indeed. At the half it seemed like Hobart was in the drivers seat. Shooting 53% from the field to the Bengals 42% coupled with a ft advantage of 7/9  to 3/4 for the Bengals made for a concerned group. However the 2nd half saw a Bengals team with a renewed commitment to defense and to getting the ball inside to Majak and Runge. Majak had zero attempts at half and Runge was 3 for 3. Second half they finished with a combined 10 of 15 for 20 pts.

    After allowing Hobart to shoot better than 50% in the first half the Beengals held them to 33% in the 2nd and 25% from beyond the arc. All Bengal starters scored in double figures along with freshman Bradley Doyley who chipped in 10  (after going scoreless in the first half).

  After a quick Thanksgiving break its back on the hardwoods Friday to prepare for Nazareth and Medaille. Partying???? Naw. Gonna rent the movie "Prometheus",  cuddle up with the missus and breathe a sigh of relief!!!! Its good to get the first 1 out of the way!

What's that bolded part stuck in the middle of my quoted post. You trying to make me look bad. ??? Man, I got to give you some lessons on the quote feature when you get up here. You better plan on spending at least a couple of hours away from the team when you arrive in Plattsburgh. ;D And nary a mention of my fortuitous prediction about the Bengals victory and who would be the main men. Not even a karma point!! Next time I'm going to predict a Bengal loss, then you'll appreciate me!!! Remember what happened with my prediction in the first game against Oswego last year after some early Bengal victories had you on your "40 minutes of hell" soapbox! I'm sure "the bear" remembers that one. ;D

Nice win to open the season and one that will help the SOS for the Bengals and the YAC. 8-) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2012, 10:42:03 AM
Magicman...I honestly dont know how that happened!!?? ???

Thats what I get for trying to post on my nook while riding. In the future I'll wait till I get home and then journey to the D3 boards. Your prediction was spot on buddy!!! Give me 3 more over the next 9 days and I'll put you in line with Bookmaker.com!

Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mrs. magicman. Stay out of the music shop tommorrow and enjoy some turkey!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2012, 10:42:03 AM
Magicman...I honestly dont know how that happened!!?? ???

Thats what I get for trying to post on my nook while riding. In the future I'll wait till I get home and then journey to the D3 boards. Your prediction was spot on buddy!!! Give me 3 more over the next 9 days and I'll put you in line with Bookmaker.com!

Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mrs. magicman. Stay out of the music shop tommorrow and enjoy some turkey!!!!!!

Champ,
I'll do you one better, I'll give you 4 more predictions over the next 9 days. All home games for the Bengals.

Nov. 24th vs Nazareth             Bengals win by 8
Nov. 27th vs Medaille              Bengals win by 9
Nov. 30th vs Oneonta St.        Bengals win by 13
Dec. 1st  vs New Paltz St.       Bengals win by 11

I expect the Bengals to be undefeated on Dec. 8th, when they roll into the Burgh, 8-) and hopefully not so, when they roll out. ;) But I'll save my prediction for that game until later. ;)

Happy Thanksgiving right back at you and to all the regulars on the YAC board. What a gorgeous day here in the North Country.  Sunny and mid fifties. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2012, 12:02:31 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 22, 2012, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2012, 10:42:03 AM
Magicman...I honestly dont know how that happened!!?? ???

Thats what I get for trying to post on my nook while riding. In the future I'll wait till I get home and then journey to the D3 boards. Your prediction was spot on buddy!!! Give me 3 more over the next 9 days and I'll put you in line with Bookmaker.com!

Happy Thanksgiving to you and Mrs. magicman. Stay out of the music shop tommorrow and enjoy some turkey!!!!!!

Champ,
I'll do you one better, I'll give you 4 more predictions over the next 9 days. All home games for the Bengals.

Nov. 24th vs Nazareth             Bengals win by 8
Nov. 27th vs Medaille              Bengals win by 9
Nov. 30th vs Oneonta St.        Bengals win by 13
Dec. 1st  vs New Paltz St.       Bengals win by 11

I expect the Bengals to be undefeated on Dec. 8th, when they roll into the Burgh, 8-) and hopefully not so, when they roll out. ;) But I'll save my prediction for that game until later. ;)

Happy Thanksgiving right back at you and to all the regulars on the YAC board. What a gorgeous day here in the North Country.  Sunny and mid fifties.

I hope you are right....again and again and again and again!!! ;)

Warmer in Plattsburgh than it is in Buffalo! Hope that trend continues for 16 more days!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2012, 05:58:45 AM
Champ,
Did you happen to catch the score on D3hoops scoreboard Friday night of Webster vs Cincinnati Christian University. They beat Webster 82-78. They had 10 players with playing time. Scoreboard says CC College, but also called CC University. Isn't that the team that cancelled out on you guys because they claimed they lost a bunch of players? Their website shows 13 men on the roster. Something is rotten in Denmark. ???

Just noticed that there is no video feed listed on the Buffalo State website for tonight's game with Nazareth, just live stats. Is that correct? The site shows video for the next 5 home games. Camera crew on Thanksgiving vacation?  Have they figured out the problems that plagued last year's telecasts? Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2012, 12:05:13 PM
Wrong CCU magic!

http://www.ccuathletics.com/coach/0/1.php

Our CCC/U is coached by Don Nelson!

Yep..staff is barebones tonite. No student managers and probably the thinnest crowd of the year. I do imagine that Naz will have some folks there (less than a hr away). Students will be back in time for Medaille Tuesday! Heck my son Louis (Buff State 2010) will be taping the game for the BENGALS tonite because the video people are gone also!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2012, 12:56:31 PM
Champ,
I'm totally confused now. The link you posted is the CCU that I was referring to. That's the team that played Webster last night. Also check your schedule. It shows Cincinnati Christian University and the logo shows them as the CCU Eagles. The link you posted show CCU as the Eagles with the same logo. ??? ??? ??? This team is coached by Ken Tracy. Hard for me to believe that the team you are referring to, coached by Don Nelson has the same logo and nickname as the CCU coached by Tracy.

The only other possibility is the Buffalo State schedule has the logo and nickname for the wrong CCU if there are two different schools named CCU.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2012, 03:24:13 PM
Two games on tap today in the SUNYAC:

Geneseo at D'Youville  3:00 PM

The Spartans take on their 3rd YAC team in the past 9 days. They started out with a 50 point loss to Oswego on Nov 16th and followed that up with a 22 point loss to Fredonia this past Tuesday. The point spread favors Geneseo by 3.5 but I don't know where the oddsmakers came up with that figure. The Blue Knights will probably be somewhere in between Oswego's margin and Fredonia's margin. I think it mightl be something like 96-63.

Nazareth at Buffalo State 7:00 PM

Naz handled New Paltz 90-69 back on Nov. 16th. The Bengals aren't New Paltz. They're deeper and more athletic. The spread is only 1 point in favor of Buff State. I think the Bengals should be favored by more. I believe it'll be something like an 81-73 Bengal's win here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 24, 2012, 06:31:33 PM

Geneseo 120, D'Youville 66 ..............Knights 50x69 from the field, with 36 assists! Seven score double figures and 12 Gens get 11' or more floor time. Nice scrimmage. C. Fedge 19 pts(7x9fg), reserve D. Anderson 19 pts(9x11fg) in 12'. R. Riefenhauser 8 assts, 16 pts(8x8fg)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2012, 07:28:21 PM
Well I said the oddsmakers were way off with that 3.5 point spread. I thought it would be a win by at least 30 points. Geneseo's MOV was almost as much as D'Youville scored.

Fortunately for the Spartans they won't have to face any more teams from the SUNYAC. Fortunately for the SUNYAC we won't have our SOS lowered any furthur by scrimmaging this team.

Really wish the YAC schools would quit picking on the Spartans. There has to be better competition available than to consistantly year in and year out beat up on this team. Glad to see that Buffalo State wised up and left them off their schedule this year. Too bad Oswego picked them up. :o 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2012, 08:20:42 PM
Buffalo State reversing the way they usually play. Many times the Bengals turn a halftime deficit into a lead coming right out of the locker room. Tonight they went into the break up 49-42 over Nazareth. The Golden Flyers outscored the Bengals 20-10 over the first 5 minutes of the second period and went ahead of Buff State 62-59. They would increase that lead to 75-64 at the 12:15 mark behind the hot hand of Brad Ford. Bengals fighting back and have closed to 85-80 with 4:27 left in the game thanks to Rod Epps and Jake Simmons.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2012, 08:37:53 PM
Buffalo State drops a 97-89 contest to Nazareth on the Bengals homecourt. Ouch!  I said it would be an 8 point game just needed to reverse my choice.

Bengals lost this game by not getting the job done on the defensive end of the floor. Plus they got killed on the boards. It didn't help that there were some crucial turnovers that took place in crunch time as well.

Brad Ford led Nazareth with 25 points. Five other players in double figures. Double Ouch!!

Bengals led by Roderick Epps with 33 points and Jake Simmons with 22. No other Bengal had double digits.

Final score not indicative of how close this game was with under 3 minutes to go. Down 87-80  the Bengals got a triple and a layup to cut the lead to 2 with 3:26 to play. Teams traded jump shots and with 2:25 to go Flyers Tyshun Stephens buries a 3 ball to make it a 5 pt lead at 92-87. Epps hits a jumper to make it 92-89, and after Naz misfired on their next possession, the Bengals did the same on a tying 3 point attempt with 1:29 left. Bengals get the rebound, however, but turn the ball over, their 3rd TO in the past several minutes and commit a foul on Stephens who makes them both to increase the lead to 5. Bengals then have their turn at the stripe but miss both attempts and that was pretty much the ballgame.  Naz hit 3 more free throws to stretch the 5 point lead to the final margin. Bengals were held scoreless in the final 2:02 of the game  where they missed four 3 pointers, 2 free throws committed 4 fouls and had a turnover. Certainly not the way the Bengals are used to finishing a game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2012, 08:41:24 AM
Big day today for the Plattsburgh State Cardinals as the #4 Middlebury Panthers come to town. Only game on the SUNYAC card today and it tips off in Memorial Hall at 4:00 PM. Women's game will tip off at 2:00 PM. Oddsmakers have made the Panthers an 11.5 point favorite which is probably about right. Both teams come into today's contest with unblemished records, 2-0 for the Cards and 3-0 for the Panthers. Last year the Panthers were ranked #1 when they defeated Plattsburgh 73-54 in Vermont but the game was closer than the final score indicated. Middlebury returns 4 starters off last year's team, but the 1 missing player is graduated All American 6'8" Ryan Sharry. Plattsburgh returns 4 of their starters also and 7 of the top 8 players who had the most minutes in last years contest. I think Plattsburgh will give the Panthers a good battle today and it wouldn't surprise me if the Cards pulled off the upset. Both teams have 4 players averaging in double figures. Plattsburgh will benefit from the return of last year's top rebounder and 2nd leading scorer John Perez. Perez missed the first two games the Cards played last weekend as he sat out with a pulled muscle. Middlebury is a big team with 3 solid guards that start along with a 6'6" and 6'8" pair of forwards. Subs for the forwards are also 6'6" and 6'8".

I think this game will be a closer margin than the 11.5 points but I still think the Cards are up against it. I would love to be wrong on this prediction but I think the Panthers will be the ones to walk out of Memorial Hall with the still perfect record. I see them taking this one 75-68. 

There will be live stats and a live video broadcast of both the Men's and Women's games today. I watched live video of the men's soccer team's games this fall and the quality was quite good. hopefully the basketball telecast will be equally so.

Champ, watch the video and let me know will you?   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
  "Momma said that there would be days like this" :-[. Tough game last night. Magic..you summed it up pretty well. Outrebounded 51-31 and poor defense when we needed it the most. Not the BENGAL way. Epps and Simmons with 55 and everyone else with 34. Not the BENGAL WAY. Less than 72 hrs before Medaille comes to town (actually before they travel less than 2 miles up rt. 198). Gotta get heads on straight. I think my BENGALS will respond!

  Congrats to Nazareth. They are a gritty bunch. Don't know what happended to them vs U of Rochester, but the team I saw last night looks like a 3-1 (or better) team.To make the night worse, I figured I go watch my son Louis ( who videotaped the game) play in his rec league game at 10 pm, after some wings and pizza. They lost that 1 too >:(. Tough Saturday night all together. Hopefully my BILLS will beat INDY today.

  Good luck vs Middlebury today magic! The 'Yac could use a boost.  :D 'Yac Non-conference record now stands at 12-10. A Bills and Cards win on Sunday!? Must admit...it has a nice ring to it!!

  Note : Can anyone figure out why SUNYAC.com continues to list Geneseo with a 0-0 record instead fo 2-1?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2012, 12:32:36 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
  Note : Can anyone figure out why SUNYAC.com continues to list Geneseo with a 0-0 record instead fo 2-1?

I sent them an email wondering that exact same thing. Hopefully someone will make the corrections. I know the first 2 scores weren't reported to D3hoops for some time as well, but now see that the Geneseo page has all three of their games posted.

I think the Bengals starting 5, need more time to get to know each other and perhaps share the ball more. Hope Jake and Epps aren't trying to outdo each other at the expense of the other players. Roderick with 30 attempts. Other than Jake, the entire rest of the team only had 32 attempts. Epps with a decent overall fg percentage 15x30 but only  2x10 from downtown. He should be shooting in a bit closer and letting Jake take the long range shots. Not saying he shouldn't fire up an ocassional 3 pointer but be a bit more selective. It's nice to bury the three but Jake is a proven commodity, while Roderick has a couple of years left to get to that point. Your bigs needed more touches. They (Seth and Anyar) were 10x15 against Hobart. Only 10 combined attempts against Naz, making 4. Epps had almost a third of the teams fga's against Hobart, again only 1x5 from beyond the arc. That's 3x15 for the two games from long distance. Ten of those 15 attempts, at least, should be Jake's attempts. His percentages are much higher. Not being able to watch those 2 games it's hard for me to say, how or where those 3 point attempts came from, but I find it hard to believe they were coming off set plays to free up Roderick. More likely he was setting up himself and let it fly when he felt the urge. If they were coming off set plays then the wrong guy is being set up. Jake is a very respectable 8x20 from downtown, twice as good as Roderick. Loss of Norman Simmons already being felt in terms of ball distribution. Roderick is more of a scorer than Norman was and wouldn't want to take him out of that mindset, but maybe control it a little with better percentage shots. Just think that Jake should still be the first option from the perimeter.... A few observations from afar.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 25, 2012, 12:49:53 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 09:20:33 AM
  Note : Can anyone figure out why SUNYAC.com continues to list Geneseo with a 0-0 record instead fo 2-1?

Methinks it could be the shift of SUNYAC operations from Fredonia to Cortland upon commissioner change. Believe the office usually assigns someone to handle standings and stats. And don't individual schools have to report scores and stats to said office? Last we looked an early Plattsburgh score was among the missing. Earlier we indicated Ithaca beat Potsdam 79-69. Listed that way on SUNYAC board then and still is. Magic noted the correction on these pages, 76-69. But as we said, could be an office in transition.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:09:40 PM
Im watching the Middlebury v Plattsburgh game via live video. Quality is great. Announcer sounds like... ( give me a min). Middlebury just went up by 1, 39-38, erasing a 9 point deficit! 13:07 left in the game!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
Fields and Manning keeping it close. Tied at 42!! Manning fouls...next foul puts Middlebury in the bonus! 11:12 left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:20:39 PM
2 Free throws by Fields. Tied at 49. 8:19 left!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
Never knew that Tom Chapin ("Cats in the Cradle") was a Plattsburgh alumnus. Announcer just shared that "did you know" while Hobson hits a 3 and puts the Cards with in 2 - 64-62 . 3:44 left!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:48:39 PM
   55 seconds left 5 pt Middlebury lead. Questionable call against Manning who knocks ball away from Middlebury but is called for the foul ???. 74-71 45.3 seconds left after a Cards steal! Cards won't quit! Waiting for the crowd to start a "Defense" chant! Manning turnover just about does the Cards in, Middlebury up by 5, 78-73, with 11 seconds left.

   Looks like the #4 ranked Panthers will squeak 1 out as they get fouled with .5 seconds left! Brave effort by the Cards as they lose their first game of the season, 80-73! Great video!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2012, 06:42:58 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
Never knew that Tom Chapin ("Cats in the Cradle") was a Plattsburgh alumnus. Announcer just shared that "did you know" while Hobson hits a 3 and puts the Cards with in 2 - 64-62 . 3:44 left!

Champ,
That's another close but no cigar!! ??? Tom Chapin is an alumnus of Plattsburgh State and he was a heck of a basketball player. If you're as old as I am you could have seen him play back in the mid 60's. I believe he graduated in 1966. That year in February I traveled from Potsdam over to Plattsburgh to watch the deciding game between the Bears and the Cardinals to see who would win the conference crown and an automatic bid to the NCAA's.(No YAC tournament back then) Plattsburgh was up by 8 points with 52 seconds left in the game, but the Bears came back and won it to clinch the bid. Chapin was the Cardinals star player and he was a senior that year. He DID NOT however pen and sing the song "Cats in the Cradle" . That would be his older brother Harry Chapin who left us entirely too soon as the result of a fatal auto accident/heart attack.(He suffered a heart attack but it was not known if it occured as a result of the accident or if it happened before the collision when he was rear ended by a tractor trailer). Harry was only 38 years old at the time of his death. Saw him in concert several times back in the 70's. Always put on a great show.

Tom Chapin was, for  5 or 6 years, the host of the Sunday morning TV program for children called Make a Wish. He is also a singer-songwriter and Grammy winner in his own right.

And that's Hodgson not Hobson. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 06:46:33 PM
OOPs. :-[ I'll blame the NSN announcers! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 25, 2012, 06:59:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2012, 06:42:58 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
Never knew that Tom Chapin ("Cats in the Cradle") was a Plattsburgh alumnus. Announcer just shared that "did you know" while Hobson hits a 3 and puts the Cards with in 2 - 64-62 . 3:44 left!

Champ,
That's another close but no cigar!! ??? Tom Chapin is an alumnus of Plattsburgh State and he was a heck of a basketball player. If you're as old as I am you could have seen him play back in the mid 60's. I believe he graduated in 1966. That year in February I traveled from Potsdam over to Plattsburgh to watch the deciding game between the Bears and the Cardinals to see who would win the conference crown and an automatic bid to the NCAA's.(No YAC tournament back then) Plattsburgh was up by 8 points with 52 seconds left in the game, but the Bears came back and won it to clinch the bid. Chapin was the Cardinals star player and he was a senior that year. He DID NOT however pen and sing the song "Cats in the Cradle" . That would be his older brother Harry Chapin who left us entirely too soon as the result of a fatal auto accident/heart attack.(He suffered a heart attack but it was not known if it occured as a result of the accident or if it happened before the collision when he was rear ended by a tractor trailer). Harry was only 38 years old at the time of his death. Saw him in concert several times back in the 70's. Always put on a great show.

Tom Chapin was, for  5 or 6 years, the host of the Sunday morning TV program for children called Make a Wish. He is also a singer-songwriter and Grammy winner in his own right.

And that's Hodgson not Hobson. ;D

I saw Tom Chapin at a children's show (excellent) here in town around 10 years ago and it was the only time I have ever seen a performer orchestrate their own standing ovation.  During the encore he called for everyone to "stand up and clap your hands".  Two minutes later the song ended and he walked off the stage......and we were all standing and clapping....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2012, 07:07:10 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 06:46:33 PM
OOPs. :-[ I'll blame the NSN announcers! ;)

And I'll let you! ;D  Video broadcast was pretty cool wasn't it? A lot of schools in the area are using this company for their broadcasts.

Went 10-0 this week in the National Pick Em League over on the Multi Regional Topics Board. Would gladly wish I went 9-1 as the Middlebury-Plattsburgh game was the final game of the week. I picked Midd but hoped I lose. I think it's the first time anyone's ever had a perfect week. (But I may be wrong. I know it's the first time in 4 years at least)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on November 25, 2012, 06:59:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2012, 06:42:58 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
Never knew that Tom Chapin ("Cats in the Cradle") was a Plattsburgh alumnus. Announcer just shared that "did you know" while Hobson hits a 3 and puts the Cards with in 2 - 64-62 . 3:44 left!

Champ,
That's another close but no cigar!! ??? Tom Chapin is an alumnus of Plattsburgh State and he was a heck of a basketball player. If you're as old as I am you could have seen him play back in the mid 60's. I believe he graduated in 1966. That year in February I traveled from Potsdam over to Plattsburgh to watch the deciding game between the Bears and the Cardinals to see who would win the conference crown and an automatic bid to the NCAA's.(No YAC tournament back then) Plattsburgh was up by 8 points with 52 seconds left in the game, but the Bears came back and won it to clinch the bid. Chapin was the Cardinals star player and he was a senior that year. He DID NOT however pen and sing the song "Cats in the Cradle" . That would be his older brother Harry Chapin who left us entirely too soon as the result of a fatal auto accident/heart attack.(He suffered a heart attack but it was not known if it occured as a result of the accident or if it happened before the collision when he was rear ended by a tractor trailer). Harry was only 38 years old at the time of his death. Saw him in concert several times back in the 70's. Always put on a great show.

Tom Chapin was, for  5 or 6 years, the host of the Sunday morning TV program for children called Make a Wish. He is also a singer-songwriter and Grammy winner in his own right.

And that's Hodgson not Hobson. ;D

I saw Tom Chapin at a children's show (excellent) here in town around 10 years ago and it was the only time I have ever seen a performer orchestrate their own standing ovation.  During the encore he called for everyone to "stand up and clap your hands".  Two minutes later the song ended and he walked off the stage......and we were all standing and clapping....

That's what happens when you get a quality education at a fine school like Plattsburgh State. ;)  Great story Ethelred!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2012, 09:07:46 PM
Middlebury 80 Plattsburgh 73.

Great game at Memorial Hall this afternoon even if my Cardinals didn't get the win. I called it 75-68 in favor of the Panthers and after a 29-24 Plattsburgh lead at the half I thought my totals would be fairly close. I had the correct MOV at 7 points but both teams put up almost twice as many points in the 2nd stanza as they did in the first. Referees for the most part let them play in the first half as they only called 11 fouls (6 against the Cards, 5 on the Panthers) Made up for it in the 2nd period as they whistled the teams for nearly 3 times that amount. Happy that the zebras didn't decide the outcome. Only a few calls that I thought were questionable, some on both sides.

The first half was a defensive battle with each team contesting nearly every shot that was fired up. Nine ties and 5 lead changes took place before the Cards went ahead 21-19 on an inside basket by Reggie Williams. At one point the teams went nearly 5 minutes without a single point being scored. Plattsburgh stretched their lead to 29-22 before a Joey Kizel steal and layup with 35 seconds left  cut it to 29-24 at the half. John Perez had a monster dunk midway through the period to fire up the Plattsburgh crowd.

The Cardinals outscored the Panthers 6-2 to open the 2nd half and gave them the largest lead of the game by either team at 35-26. After a quick Middlebury time out  the Panthers went on a 13-3 run to regain the lead at 39-38 on a three pointer by Hunter Merryman.
Eight more lead changes and 7 ties would occur before a James Jensen jumper gave the Panthers the lead for good, making the score 58-56 with 6:06 left to play. Up by 5 after 2 Nolan Thompson free throws, the Cards got a triple by Ezra Hodgson to close within 2 but a Kizel layup and a Thompson 3 pointer gave Middlebury their largest lead of the contest at 69-62. Cards would fight back and once again get it to a 1 possession game when Chris Manning stole the ball from Kizel and fed Gary Tibbs for a layup to make it 74-71 with 38 seconds left. Plattsburgh called a timeout and went to a trapping press but the Panthers broke it for easy baskets on the next 2 possessions to open up another 7 point advantage and put this one away. Final score should have been 78-73 but refs blew the whistle on Plattsburgh with a half second on the clock which allowed Kizel to pad his stats a little bit. ;) That would have made the final the same score as Midd had when they opened the season with a 78-73 win over Ursinus.

Plattsburgh was led by Shavar Fields with 11 points (3x4 fg, 5x6 ft). Ezra Hodgson had 10 points (4x9 fg, 2x4 3's) and 5 rebounds. Shamoy McIntosh also scored 10 points (2x7 fg, 2x6 3's, 4x4 ft) with 3 assists. Gary Tibbs led the Cards in rebounds with 6 and had a solid game with 8 points (4x4 fg) and 3 steals. Point Guard Chris Manning added 8 pts (4x11 fg, 0x1 3's) 6 assists, 3 steals and 3 boards. John Perez, Plattsburgh's leading rebounder and 2nd leading scorer from last year, saw his first action of the year today and ended up with 8 points (3x6 fg, 2x2 ft) 3 rebounds and 2 assists.Plattsburgh shot  27x56 from the field (48.2%), 7x19 from downtown (36.8%) and 12x13 from the line (92.3%). They won the rebounding battle 30-21 and had 17 turnovers to 15 for the Panthers. The Cardinals had a balanced effort today as Coach Curle played 12 players in the game and all of them hit the scoring column.

Middlebury placed 3 players in double figures as Nolan Thompson led all scorers with 23 points (8x13 fg, 3x7 3's, 4x4 ft). Thompson also was the game's top rebounder with 7, and he added 2 steals and 2 assists along with his usual sterling defense. He was the Panther's MVP today for sure. Peter Lynch was close behind as he had a number of nice inside moves to finish with 19 points (6x8 fg, 7x8 ft). Joey Kizel had 13 points (4x8 fg,1x2 3's, 4x6 ft) and 4 assists. Jake Wolfin finished with 7 assists, 5 points (2x6 fg, 1x3 3's) and 3 rebounds. The Panthers shot 27x47 from the field (57.4%), 7x16 from 3 point land (43.8%) and 19x23 from the stripe (82.6%).

Plattsburgh's next game is Tuesday Nov 27th when they travel to Canton, NY to take on St. Lawrence University.

Middlebury's next opponent will probably be a little easier to handle as they host Southern Vermont on Tuesday the 27th as well. The Mountaineers are still looking for their first win of the season. Don't think they'll find it on that night either.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2012, 02:46:45 PM
Buffalo State Epps named Player of the Week! 

http://www.sunyac.com/awards.aspx?aow=850

  Not sure why the SUNYAC has Rod listed as a "senior"? ??? He is correctly listed on the Buffalo State roster as a sophomore. Not sure where they are getting (or not getting) their info from. Thanks to JDEX/magicman, they now have the Geneseo record posted. I guess they (SUNYAC) folks are working out the kinks after switching bases from Fredonia to Cortland. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 26, 2012, 03:31:26 PM
Wendy's College Classic pairings:


http://www.wendyscollegeclassic.com/media/documents/2012/11/MensBracket.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2012, 04:43:42 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2012, 02:46:45 PM
Buffalo State Epps named Player of the Week! 

http://www.sunyac.com/awards.aspx?aow=850

  Not sure why the SUNYAC has Rod listed as a "senior"? ??? He is correctly listed on the Buffalo State roster as a sophomore. Not sure where they are getting (or not getting) their info from. Thanks to JDEX/magicman, they now have the Geneseo record posted. I guess they (SUNYAC) folks are working out the kinks after switching bases from Fredonia to Cortland. ;)

I received an email today from the SUNYAC office thanking me for the corrections on the Geneseo scores. I have since notified them about the incorrect Potsdam-Ithaca score and Rod's class designation. I expect the corrections will be forthcoming.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2012, 11:21:54 PM
D3hoops new Top 25 is out and 2 NY teams make the list. Rochester is ranked at #17 with 162 points. NYU checks in at #22 with  114 points. Oswego State is listed in the others receiving votes category with a total of 12 points. That would make them #40.
Stevens also in the ORV category tied at #45 with 7 points.
No other East Region team made the list. Here's the link to the rankings:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2012-13/week1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 05:22:31 AM
Seven games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC. Should be some interesting matchups as local rivalries take center stage. Hope to do some predictions later on.

4 games tip off at 7:00 PM

Medaille at Buffalo State

Elmira at Fredonia State

New Paltz State at Vassar

Oswego at Cobleskill.

3 games tip off at 8:00 PM

Clarkson at Potsdam

Ithaca at Cortland

Plattsburgh at St. Lawrence
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2012, 11:30:47 AM
Wow. If the 'Yac could go 7-0 tonite that sure would be a boost to the conf! America awaits (or at least bengalsrule, ethelred and jdex :D) the magicman's predictions !!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 27, 2012, 11:40:14 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 27, 2012, 05:22:31 AM
Seven games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC. Should be some interesting matchups as local rivalries take center stage. Hope to do some predictions later on.

4 games tip off at 7:00 PM

Medaille at Buffalo State

Elmira at Fredonia State

New Paltz State at Vassar

Oswego at Cobleskill.

3 games tip off at 8:00 PM

Clarkson at Potsdam

Ithaca at Cortland

Plattsburgh at St. Lawrence
Some pretty Good games tonight Medaille vs Buffalo State, Ithaca vs Cortland i think Ithca wins by 7 and Buffalo State wins by 2 and i predict Clarkson over Potsdam
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2012, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 27, 2012, 11:40:14 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 27, 2012, 05:22:31 AM
Seven games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC. Should be some interesting matchups as local rivalries take center stage. Hope to do some predictions later on.

4 games tip off at 7:00 PM

Medaille at Buffalo State

Elmira at Fredonia State

New Paltz State at Vassar

Oswego at Cobleskill.

3 games tip off at 8:00 PM

Clarkson at Potsdam

Ithaca at Cortland

Plattsburgh at St. Lawrence
Some pretty Good games tonight Medaille vs Buffalo State, Ithaca vs Cortland i think Ithca wins by 7 and Buffalo State wins by 2 and i predict Clarkson over Potsdam

I like, 1 of your, predictions!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 06:57:46 PM
Medaille at Buffalo St. 7 PM

I think the Bengals may have to much firepower for the Mavericks in tonight's game. Bengals still smarting from loss to Nazareth that they let get away. Will make amends here. Posted line has the Bengals favored by 8.5 and the way these 2 teams have been putting points up on the board would indicate a high scoring game. Buffalo State has been up against much tougher competition that Medaille has. I'll take the Bengals  94-83.

Elmira at Fredonia State  7 PM

The Soaring Eagles haven't soared for quite a while, but this year's team is showing signs of improvement over last year's 2-23 squad. Although they haven't won yet this year, their two losses to Cortland and Hamilton have been by a combined 5 points. This is their first game on the road so I'm not sure what to expect. Fredonia is in a complete rebuilding mode having lost a ton of their rotation from last year's 13-12 team. Blue Devils' sole win against D'Youville with double digit losses to Hilbert and St. John Fisher. Oddsmakers have made Fredonia a 7.5  point favorite, but I think that's too much. In fact I think any team that can hang with Cortland can beat Fredonia. I'm picking Elmira in a close one  63-59.

New Paltz State at Vassar  7 PM

The Hawks take on their local rivals at Vassar and look to even their record at 2-2. New Paltz is coming off a disappointing 83-81 overtime loss to Mount St. Mary last week in a game that the Hawks led at halftime by 16 points. Hawks still up by 3 with under 10 seconds left in regulation when a Mount 3 pointer tied it up. In OT they quickly fell behind and never recovered. Hawks own a 3 game win streak over the Brewers, who enter the contest with a 2-1 record. Both wins coming against lightweight competition. The posted line has the Hawks favored by 7.5 points but I think they might win it by double digits. I'll go with the Hawks 79-68.

Oswego State at Cobleskill  7 PM

This is the biggest mismatch on the schedule tonight. The Lakers, espousing to the Jim Boeheim school of thought, take on their 3rd straight cupcake. That being said it's interesting to note that 2 years ago, a 10-16 Cobleskill team went right down to the wire against NCAA bound Oswego 63-62. Only a last second jumper by the Lakers Chad Burridge pulled out a victory from the jaws of defeat. Things got back to normal last year as the Lakers pounded the Fighting Tigers, 107-53. I expect this year to be more like last year. Pointspread has the Lakers favored by 21.5 points, but I think they'll win by more. Oswego takes it 95-59.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 07:49:52 PM
Buffalo State off to a slow start against Medaille falls behind by 15 points at 19-4 eight minutes into the game. Bengals fight back and outscore the Mavericks 37-26 the rest of the period to make it a 4 point halftime deficit 45-41. Jake Simmons, Seth Runge, and Brad Doyley lead the Bengals with 8 points each. Mavericks have 2 players with 8 apiece. Bengals need to pick up the intensity on defense, especially at the 3 point line. Mavericks with seven 3's in the 1st half, 7x14.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 08:01:34 PM
Clarkson at Potsdam  8 PM

The Golden Knights take on their crosstown rivals in Jerry Welsh Gym and will be looking to extend their 4 game winning streak against the Bears. Last time Potsdam beat Clarkson was in their 1st meeting of the 2008-09 season back on November 22, 2008. Clarkson won the rematch 10 days later and single meetings the next 3 years. Teams have started the year in opposite directions as the Golden Knights are undefeated at 3-0 win a nice win over Ithaca. Bears opened up 0-2 losing to both opponents (Ithaca and Berkeley College) in the opening North Country Invitational at Clarkson. Clarkson beat both of those teams to win the tournament. Oddsmakers have made the Knights a 3.5 point favorite and the way the Coleman brothers have opened the year for Clarkson would make me agree. I expect a close game but think that Clarkson will come away with the win, 74-69.

Ithaca at Cortland  8 PM

Hoops version of the Cortaca Jug on display tonight as the Red Dragons hope to repeat their success on the hardwood that they had on the gridiron this fall. Both teams return large pieces of last year's teams that resulted in a down to the wire barnburner, won by Cortland 68-67, on a last second basket by Kevin McMahon. I expect more of the same this year when these clubs tangle. Bombers enter with a 1-1 record having defeated Potsdam State and losing to Clarkson on a buzzer beater in the championship game of Clarkson's opening season tournament 65-63. Cortland is 2-0 with both wins coming against probable lowere tier E8 teams Elmira and Utica College. Red Dragons will certainly need to play better than they did against Elmira if they hope to come away with a win here. Post line has Cortland favored by 6 points but I think that might be too much. I'll pick the Red Dragons in a nail biter again, 75-72.

Plattsburgh State at St. Lawrence  8 PM

Cardinals travel to Canton to take on North Country rival SLU in their annual meeting. Cards have won 4 of the past 6 and the last 3 in a row. SLU lost a lot from last years team and in danger of misssing the LL playoffs this year. Saints have opened up 0-2 on the season and lost by 14 to a Mount St Mary team that edged New Paltz last week. Plattsburgh coming off a tough loss to #4 Middlebury and looking to get back into the win column. Pointspread is favoring Plattsburgh by a single point but I think the Cards will be too deep for this young SLU team. I'm taking Plattsburgh to win this one 76-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 08:11:22 PM
Fredonia led Elmira 36-32 at the half and is now in front 47-42 with 12:21 left to play.

No Live stats or video on Oswego game or New Paltz game so no scores to report yet.

Buffalo St. ties it up with Medaille at 60-60 on 2 free throws by Jake Simmons with 11:40 left to play. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 08:46:11 PM
Fredonia gets a win over Elmira as they pull away in the final 6 minutes and win 75-60.

Blue Devils were up 56-52 with 6:33 to play and outscore Elmira 10-2 over the next 2 minutes to gain a 66-54 advantage. Soaring Eagles got no closer than 10 the rest of the way. Freds were led by Amir Billups and Tyrone Clark with 21 points each. Glad I was wrong on this one. No surprise as Elmira probably won't win too many road contests this year. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 08:50:51 PM
Final in Buffalo as the Bengals come from a 15 point 1st half deficit to defeat Medaille 98-84. I was pretty close with my 94-83 prediction. Jake Simmons with 24 and Rod Epps with 23 lead Buffalo State. Jammal Coleman from Medaille was the game's high scorer with 25 points. Seth Runge with 13 and Ant Hamer with 12 also in double figs for the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 09:06:01 PM
Plattsburgh State leads St. Lawrence 40-32 at the half. Kalik Parker with 9 and Shamoy McIntosh with 7 lead the Cardinals. Ed Correa and Ezra Hodgson both with 6 points.  Kyle Miller leads the Saints with 8 pts.

Went to pull up the video link but St Lawrence like Hobart wants you to either buy a season pass or pay $8 to view the game. Then spend god knows how much time to set up the account, get a password, and possibly find out that it's a lousy video feed. No thanks. find it ironic that these private colleges with big time tuition fees have to charge a fee to watch their games, >:( while the SUNYAC schools, most of whom have video, give it to the general public for free. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 09:15:32 PM
Potsdam over Clarkson at the half 37-33. Now early in the 2nd period and the Knights have closed it to 41-40. Colin Peterson led the Bears with 8 points. Rob Duqette and Curtis Pierce with 6 pts each. Jerry Coleman and Felix Abongo with 9 each for Clarkson.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Cortland over Ithaca 37-27 at the half. Red Dragons have now opened up a 66-48 lead now with 8 minutes left in the game. Harrison Hefele with 19, Jesse Winter with 12 and Jeremy Smith with 11 lead Cortland. Andre Oztemel leads Ithaca with 20 points. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
New Paltz 74 Vassar 58 final.

About what I expected in this game. I had it 79-68 Hawks. Not quite as many points but similar MOV. Matt Devine with 19 was the game's high scorer. Shareef Taylor with 12 and Andrew Joseph with 10 are other Hawks in double digits. Curtis Smith and Alex Snyder with 10 each for the Brewers.


Plattsburgh now up 67-55 on SLU with 8 minutes left to play.

Potsdam 54 Clarkson 51 with 8:49 left to play. Go Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 09:40:37 PM
Plattsburgh now up 77-64 over SLU with 3 minutes to go. I predicted a 76-64 final, looks like their will be a few more points scored than my total.

Potsdam builds a 66-57 lead over Clarkson with 2:25 to play. Hope I'm wrong  on my guess in that game. Go Bears!!

Cortland up 80-67 over Ithaca with 1:44 left. Not nearly as close as I anticipated but still a Cortland win like I wanted.

Still no score on the Oswego game.


I do believe the YAC is going to go 7-0 in tonight's action. Doesn't get much better than this. ;D 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2012, 09:46:15 PM

Cortland marches past Ithaca 84-67 .......up by 18 early in the second half ......IC within nine late ......Corts stroll to the FT line to finish it ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 09:53:08 PM
Cortland 84 Ithaca 67 Final score.

Cortland up by 10 at the half stretches their lead to 18 on several ocassions. Bombers cut it to 9 on a 3 pointer by Sean Rossi with 2:27 left  but that would be as close as they got. They cut it to 9 one last time at 76-67 with 2:01 to go, but 4 different Cortland players went 2x2 from the line and the 8 straight free throws expanded the lead to the 17 point margin. 4 Red Dragons in double figs led by Harrison Hefele with 21. Jesse Winter with 18, Jeremy Smith with 15, and Brian Manning with 13 pts and a team leading 8 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 09:54:38 PM
Potsdam 77 Clarkson 65  Final
   
Plattsburgh 84 SLU 68  Final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Cortland goes to 3-0 in solid fashion. Holds 37-27 lead at half after up by as many as 14. Hits 52 percent fg in the first 20' while Ithaca struggles to reach 30 percent. Opens 55-37 margin at 12:56 and still ahead by 18 at 8:03 on J. Winter 'three'. Bombers within 72-63 on S. Rossi triple at 2:27. RDragons then on steady roll to the foul stripe -- final 17 points from the line where Winter excels. H. Hefele winds up with 21 pts(7x11fg, 4x6 3s), 7 rebs; Winter 18 pts, 8 assts; J. Smith 15 pts and early foul trouble; B. Manning 13 pts. A. Oztemel in starring IC role with 23 pts(4x8 3s), 6 rebs. F. Mitchell 11 rebs, 15 pts(6x8fg); T. Warech 12 pts; Rossi 11 pts, 5 assts.

Corts 21x51fg, 27x37ft, 9x22 3s. IC 18 tovers, 23x56fg, 7x26 3s, 14x21fts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2012, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2012, 11:30:47 AM
Wow. If the 'Yac could go 7-0 tonite that sure would be a boost to the conf! America awaits (or at least bengalsrule, ethelred and jdex :D) the magicman's predictions !!

Buffalo State 98-84 over Medaille
New Paltz 74-58 over Vassar
Fredonia 75-60 over Elmira
Oswego 80-70 over Cobleskill
Plattsburgh 84-68 over St. Lawrence
Potsdam 77-65 over Clarkson
and.......
Cortland 84-66 over Ithaca

One helluva good night for the 'YAC!!! :D I'm sure you all would agree!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 27, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Bears with a nearly wire to wire win over the cross town Clarkson Knights.

Only Clarkson lead was at 18:59 of 1st Half 3-2, the Potsdam never trailed.

Could this be the year that the 'yac is the dominant conference in Upstate NY, with wins tonight over chalk in Empire 8 and Liberty League.

Senior Transfer Mark Lake led Bears with 23, Junior Rob Duquette was a force in the paint with 14 & 11;  Soph Colin Peterson added 13 including 3x5 beyond the arc; and Curtis Pierce filled the stat sheet with 11 pts, 7 boards, and 6 steals.

Jerry Coleman led knights with 22.

Go Figure, Ithaca beat Potsdam, Clarkson beats Ithaca, Potsdam beats Clarkson.

If this keeps up there will be a lot of 9-9 or 10-8 teams in the 'yac.

Go Bears!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
Plattsburgh 84  St. Lawrence 68

Five ties and four lead changes over the 1st 10 minutes of play. SLU with their biggest lead at 20-16, when the Cards Kalik Parker hits three unanswered triples in a row to give Plattsburgh a lead they would never let go of. Up 25-20 they increased the lead to 30-24  but the Saints came back and closed to 32-30. Cards hit back to back 3 pointers again by Ed Correa and Shamoy McIntosh followed by a layup from Chris Manning to give then a 40-31 edge. SLU only managed a free throw to make it 40-32 at the half.

SLU threatened early in the 2nd to close within 3 at 42-39 but the Cards went on another 10-2 spurt to open up their first double digit lead at 52-41. It stayed that way until the Saints made a late move with 5 minutes left and cut it to 70-63. Cards with another 10-2 run to make it 82-65 and put the game away,

Kalik Parker led the Cards with 15 pts (5x13 fg, 4x11 3's 1x2 ft) which is his highest point total in a Cards uniform. 3 other Cardinal were in double figures as Shamoy McIntosh had 12 points (5x7 fg, 2x3 3's) and 3 steals. Chris Manning had another superb game running the point with 11 points, 9 assists, 5 steals, and 3 rebounds in 26 minutes of action. John Perez in his 2nd game back from an injury added 11 points and a team high 5 boards in 18 minutes of play. Frosh Ed Correa with a solid game scoring 6 points (2x4 3's) with 4 rebounds, 3 steals and an assist in 19 minutes. 14 players saw action and 10 of them hit the scoring column. So much depth on this young Cardinal team.

The Cards shot 31x57 from the field (54.4%), 8x20 from 3 point land (40.0%) and 14x24 from the stripe (58.3%) Cards had 27 rebounds to 30 for the Saints but the Saints had 20 turnovers to only 9 for Plattsburgh.

St. Lawrence was led by Kyle Miller with 14 pts (4x9 fg, 2x6 3's. 4x5 ft). Tell White had 12 pts (4x4 fg, 4x8 ft) and Janpeter Brase had 10 pts (4x5 fg, 2x4 ft). Brase was SLU's leading rebounder with 7 boards. The Saints shot 23x41 from the field (56.1%), 6x14 from behind the arc (42.95) and 16x31 from the line (51.6%).

Plattsburgh ups their record to 3-1 and will now travel to Oswego State on Friday Nov. 30th to open conference play. They face Cortland State the next day in what will probably be their toughest road trip of the season. I'll be happy if we come home with a split of those 2 games.

St Lawrence falls to 0-3 and will host winless Elmira on Sat. Dec. 1st. Someone will break into the win column that day.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 10:51:11 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 27, 2012, 10:41:16 PM
Go Figure, Ithaca beat Potsdam, Clarkson beats Ithaca,Potsdam beats Ithaca....Clarkson

If this keeps up there will be a lot of 9-9 or 10-8 teams in the 'yac.

Go Bears!

Slight correction bear ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2012, 11:11:59 PM
Oswego 80 Cobleskill 70

Looks like the Lakers played more like 2 years ago than last year as Cobleskill fought back from a 26-16 deficit with 7:41 left in the 1st half to outscore Oswego 21-8 and go into the break up 37-34. Would have liked to have heard Coach Leone's halftime speech. 

11-7 start of the 2nd half finally gave the Lakers the lead at 45-44 after 3 minutes had gone by. Still a close game at 51-48 in favor of  Oswego with 13:50 left to play. The Lakers finally woke up and went on a 13-1 run to open up a 15 point 64-49 advantage with 10 minutes left. Cobleskill cut it to 9 twice in the last few minutes but could get no closer. Hayden Ward with 24, Chris Gilkes with 16 and Sean Michele with 15 led Oswego. Ward was the top rebounder in the game with 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2012, 04:00:39 AM
SUNYAC's 7-0 record on Tuesday night gets us a little ink on D3hoops front page. Here's the quote from the write up:

"It was a good night to be a men's basketball team from the SUNYAC as all seven that played won. Cortland State beat archrival Ithaca 84-67 and Potsdam State beat North Country neighbor Clarkson 77-65. Buffalo State's dynamic duo led the Bengals past Medaille 98-84. Jake Simmons and Roderick Epps combined for 47 points two days after scoring 55 against Nazareth."

It lools like the Bengals have a new nickname for the Jake and Rod show. ;D 

I hope Buffalo State's SID nominated Rod Epps for the D3hoops Team of the Week for his 2 games last week:

18 pts (8x20), 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, against Hobart on 11-20

33 pts (15x30), 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals,  against Nazareth on 11-24

Certainly merits consideration, but you have to be nominated, I believe, to be considered.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 28, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
Buff State is one of the few SUNYAC schools that consistently nominates people. We had about 50 nominations for those five spots so there was a lot of competition. Good start to the Team of the Week this season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2012, 02:09:08 PM
You beat me to the SUNYAC quote  >:( . Good pub for the 'YAC!!!! ;)

4 -1 record vs. AMCC
4 -0 record vs Liberty League
4 -3 record vs Empire 8 (c'mon Oneonta...vs Hartwick tonite)
1 -1 record vs CUNY
0 -1 vs UAA (although U of Rochester could see Geneseo in the 2nd round of the Wendy's tourney)

Geneseo opens vs. Nazareth (E8) tonite..could meet Hobart (LL) in the 2nd rd. of WENDYS CLASSIC tourney.
Brockport opens vs. St John Fisher (E8) tonite...could meet U of Rochester (UAA) in 2nd rd. of the WENDYS CLASSIC tourney!!


   Hopefully when at-large bids come around in Feb. the pollsters/voters won't forget what the 'Yac has done vs. non-conference foes in NYS/East! With 'Yac play in full effect this weekend we now begin to beat up on each other. :'( Thebear put it correctly when he said that there could be a lot of 9-9/10-8 teams in the conference this year! My hope is that a tough conference helps, not hurts, our post season chances when they look at the non-conference record!!! That's why the BIG EAST gets multiple bids to the dance. They beat up on each other but own most non-conference opponents.

   magic...Our S.I.D. is pretty sharp! I gotta believe that he has nominated Rod for the D3 Hoops team of the week!! ;)

edited to add.....

See Pat Coleman's response!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2012, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 28, 2012, 04:00:39 AM
SUNYAC's 7-0 record on Tuesday night gets us a little ink on D3hoops front page. Here's the quote from the write up:

"It was a good night to be a men's basketball team from the SUNYAC as all seven that played won. Cortland State beat archrival Ithaca 84-67 and Potsdam State beat North Country neighbor Clarkson 77-65. Buffalo State's dynamic duo led the Bengals past Medaille 98-84. Jake Simmons and Roderick Epps combined for 47 points two days after scoring 55 against Nazareth."

It lools like the Bengals have a new nickname for the Jake and Rod show. ;D 
I hope Buffalo State's SID nominated Rod Epps for the D3hoops Team of the Week for his 2 games last week:
18 pts (8x20), 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, against Hobart on 11-20
33 pts (15x30), 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals,  against Nazareth on 11-24
Certainly merits consideration, but you have to be nominated, I believe, to be considered.

No Rod Epps. Glad to know that we submitted his name though!! He faced pretty tough competition this week (see Pat Coleman's comment and numbers below)
Epps numbers averaged 25.5 points, 4.5 boards, 4.5 assists and 2.5 steals in 2 games.
The 3 guards who made D3hoops team of the week!
DiBartolomeo - Averaged 17 points, 6 assists in 3 games.
Cherry - 24.3 points and over 40 mins per game in 3 games.
Watson - 28 pts in 2 games and helped upset #23 ranked Weslyan.

Long season. Something tells me that we'll see Jake and Rod on D3Hoops team of the week, before the season is over!! For that matter..the way Seth Runge and Ant Hamer are starting to play, I wouldn't be surprised if either 1 of them shows up on 1 soon !!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2012, 09:09:03 PM
The YAC's winning streak comes to an end as Nazareth defeats Geneseo 70 to 64 in the first round of the Wendy's Classic tonight. The game was played at St. John Fisher, who is playing Brockport at the moment and leading the Golden Eagles 23-15 with 7:29 left in the first half.

Close game most of the way with numerous lead changes and ties with Naz leading 30-29 at the half. Geneseo came out of the break and retook the lead on 2 quick baskets 33-30. Naz went back in front at 39-38 and stretched it to 6 points at 51-45 with 12 minutes remaining. Blue Knights came back to tie the game at 51 and retook the lead at 57-56 with 8:15 to play. It was the last time they had the advantage. Nazareth went up by 7 at 67-60, but back to back baskets by the Knights Gordon Lyons, cut it to 3. After a Naz's Tyshun Stephens missed a jumper, the Knights had a chance to tie it with 1:16 to go. They missed a jumper, got the rebound, missed another jumper, got the rebound again and missed a layup now with only 19 seconds to go. Naz rebounded the third missed shot and Geneseo fouled sending Jack Giles to the line. He made the first, missed the second and the Knights took a timeout. They failed to get off a shot as they turned the ball over with 11 seconds left. They fouled again and Stephens made both shots to provide the final margin.

Gordon Lyons led Geneseo with 21 points and 14 rebounds. Connor Fedge had 13 points and Matt Curry also dropped in 13.

Nazareth was led by another big game from Brad Ford who had 24 pts and 14 rebounds. Steohens added 16 pts, 5 rebounds and 5 assists. Dan Waldbillig finished with 13 pts and 7 boards. Nazareth with 2 nice wins now over what I think will be  upper division SUNYAC teams.

Brockport has come back to take the lead over Fisher 45-40 aided by a 4 point play by a Brockport player. Not sure how much time is left.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2012, 10:05:58 PM
YAC taking it on the chin tonight as we go 0-3.

Oneonta gets blown out by Hartwick 70-39

Brockport falls to St John Fisher 85-72.

Golden Eagles get outscored 45-27 in the last 17 minutes or so of the game as they were up 45-40 at that time.  A 20-5 run by Fisher over the next 5 minutes gave them a 60-50 lead and the closest the Eagles got after that was 62-56. The Cardinals stretched the lead to as much as 16 on several ocassions before settling for the 13 point win.
Bobby Bell with 14, John Ivy with 13, Mat Lee with 11 and Jordan Major with 10 for Brockport.

Justin Plata with 23 was the game's high scorer. he added 5 boards 2 assists, 2 steal and 2 blocks. Jason Norsen with a double-double of 16 points and 15 rebounds. Adam Ambielli with 15, Thad Weir with 13, and Chaz Lott with 10 for the Cardinals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2012, 10:16:06 PM
Hobart manages to get by Roberts Wesleyan in OT 81-80.

Friday's games:

Semi-finals

Hobart vs Nazareth at Rochester    6 PM

St. John Fisher vs Rochester at Rochester  8PM

Consolations

RIT vs Brockport at Geneseo  6PM

Roberts Wesleyan vs Geneseo at Geneseo  8PM

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2012, 11:01:37 PM
Looks like the new Sunyac staff is gonna need a lot of guidance from magic an. Their stats system is goons need a lot of work. Last year individual stats ranked players who either played a min number of games and/or attempted a min number of shots..etc.etc.

A quick glance at this years Sunyac stats show that if you have played a min or more and done anything then you could ranked. 1 for 1 from the field this season after 3 games? You are ranked number in field goal percentage.

Gonna take some work. They have a big task in front of them since it looks like they are going with an entirely new system/format!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2012, 04:46:21 PM
Wow...no posts for 2 days!!!!!! Could it be that everyone is bracing for the first SUNYAC games of 2012-13??? For the first time this season all 10 'Yac yeams are playing on 2 consecutive nights. 8 against each other.

New Paltz @ Fredonia
Oneonta @ BUFFALO STATE
Plattsburgh @ Oswego (Game of the night!)
Potsdam @ Cortland
add
Brockport vs R.I.T. and
Geneseo vs. Roberts Wesleyan in the WENDY's Classic and you have a full slate!!!!!

I know that magicman will do his predictions. I patiently (sic?) await.
Also curious about Dcahill44 preditions. He's 2 for 2 on my beloved BENGALS. He correctly predicted a win over Medaille ;D and a loss to Nazareth >:( >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 05:56:37 PM
All 10 SUNYAC Teams in action tonight with the first conference games of the season on tap, plus 2 teams in the consolation round of the Wendy's Classic.

Brockport vs RIT @ Geneseo    6:00 PM   Wendy's Classic

Brockport 0-2 so far, have played well at times and let both games get away from them in the  2nd half. Dropped an 85-72 decision to St. John Fisher in the opening round Wednesday night.  RIT is 1-1 and coming off a tough loss to Rochester in the 1st round of the tournament. Massey doesn't show a line for this game but I think it's a toss-up. I'll go with the Golden Eagles since that's where my rooting interest lies. But it won't surprise me if RIT wins. Brockport by a 74-71 score.

Roberts Wesleyan @ Geneseo  8:00 PM  Wendy's Classic

Both teams dropped first round games in the tournament as Geneseo fell to Nazareth 70-64 and Roberts Wesleyan lost in double OT to Hobart 81-80. Don't know much about the Redhawks, but they do return a number of players from last year's squad. 3 players averaging double figures and a solid 8 man rotation. The fact that they hung with Hobart makes them a dangerous opponent for the Blue Knights. Again there is no posted line on this game by Massey but it figures to be a close one. I'll take Geneseo 69-65.

New Paltz at Fredonia 8: 00 PM

Hawks have won the last 4 games in this series and are off to a 2-2 start this season. Blue Devils also 2-2 on the year but lost more from last year's team than the Hawks did. Point spread has New Paltz favored by the slimmest of margins at a half point. I think Devine and Taylor will be too much for Fredonia and I see the Hawks winning this one 77-71.

Potsdam at Cortland  8:00 PM

The Bears are fresh off their first win of the year against crosstown rival Clarkson and have 4 players averaging double figures led by  senior transfer Mark Lake and senior standout Curtis Pierce. Cortland enters the game undefeated and would be in first place in the E8 conference, if they played in that league, as all three wins have been E8 opponents. Their most recent win was against rival Ithaca, in a game that the Red Dragons dominated from start to finish, winning 84-67. Cortland is favored by 13.5 points in this contest. Potsdam is a better team than last year's version but Cortland returned too much firepower to enable the Bears to turn the tables on a 5 game losing streak. I'm rooting for my Bears but think Cortland will prevail 84-73

Oneonta at Buffalo State  8:00 PM

Bengals have opened the season against 3 quality opponents going 2-1 in the process. Jake Simmons and Rod Epps have both been on fire. Bengals averaging nearly 90 ppg, led by their "dynamic duo". Epps with 24.7 ppg and Simmons with 20.7 ppg, have 46 3 pointers between them, in just 3 games. Oneonta is 1-2 but both losses have come against solid teams. Scranton, #12 in D3hoops Top 25, only beat the Red Dragons by 8 points, 63-55, and Oneonta had the halftime lead 32-28. That's the good. The bad is they were blown out by rival Hartwick the other night, 70-39. The point spread has the Bengals favored by 9.5 but I think the Bengals will win by a bigger margin. I see it as Buffalo State 87 Oneonta 69.

Plattsburgh State at Oswego State 8:00 PM

Oswego State is currently listed in the D3hoops Top 25 Others Receiving Votes category which has them tied for 40th place. The Lakers have opened up with 3 straight wins, but the quality of their competition has been on the lightweight side. Their most recent win, against Cobleskill, left a lot to be desired, as the 1-6 Fighting Tigers actually led the Lakers at the half 37-34. Oswego eventually won 70-60 but if they play that way tonight against my Cardinals they won't be walking out of Laker Hall with a W. Plattsburgh State is 3-1 entering the game as they got back on the winning track with a solid win over St. Lawrence on Tuesday night 84-68. Prior to that game the Cardinals gave #4 Middlebury all they could handle before falling 80-73. Cards played Oswego tough last year in Oswego and in Plattsburgh. I don't think this year's Laker team is as strong as last year's edition. It's pretty tough to replace a talent like All American Chad Burridge. The Cardinals on the other hand are a better team than last year's group. The question is, are they good enough to win this game? Plattsburgh has 11 players averaging double digit minutes and 7 guys averaging between 7 and 12 ppg. The point spread has the Lakers favored by 11.5 points but unless the Cardinals lay an egg here, I think that's too much. I'm think they are capable of pulling off the upset and ending their 4 game losing streak to Oswego. I'll put my heart on my sleeve and take Plattsburgh to come away with a close 76-73 victory       
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 06:49:04 PM
Brockport leading RIT at the half 35-30. Port's Jordan Major with 14 points to lead all scorers. Brendan Reinert leads RIT with 6. Port out to a quick 10-0 and 14-2 advantage before the Tigers find their stride. Cut lead to 5 on several ocassions and narrow it to 32-29 with 1:17 left before Major hits a 3 to make it 35-29. Tiger free throw to end the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 07:52:24 PM
Brockport 70-52 over RIT as the Golden Eagles outscore the Tigers 35-22 in the 2nd period. Up by a 39-36 score the Eagles got back to back 3's from Jordan Major and Derek Klein, followed by a jumper by John Ivy and 2 free throws by Mike Gallagher to stretch the lead to 13 at 49-36. The Tigers never got it back to single digits. The Eagles opened up their largest lead at 65-46 with 4 minutes left and coasted to the win. I had it much closer at 74-71 but the Tiger had way too many turnovers (22) to keep this one close.
Four Eagles in double figures led by Jordan Major with 17. Joe Lorenzo scored 11 on a perfect  night of shooting. (4x4 fg, 2x2 3's 1x1 ft). John Ivy and Mike Gallagher added 10 points each and Ivy was the game's leading rebounder with 8 as well as the game's assist leader with 6.

RIT failed to get anyone in double figures as Casey Bobelis had 9 and Nick Dobson added 8 points. Bob Schuster led the Tigers with 8 rebounds.


Brockport improves to 1-2 and will await the winner of the Geneseo-Roberts Wesleyan game for a chance to win the 5th place spot in the tournament.  RIT now 1-2 will face the loser of that game for the chance to finish in 7th. Both of those games will take place tomorrow at Roberts Wesleyan at 1:00 Pm (the 7th place game) and 3:00 PM (the 5th place game)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2012, 08:37:37 PM

Cortland 38-30 at the half led by late K. McMahon flourish ................Fast paced period ......Potsdam scoreless from 7:25 and 22-20 lead to 2:42 and a deficit. McMahon 11 pts, J. Winter 12 pts. Bears R. Duquette 7 pts, C. Pierce 7 pts, M. Lake 6 pts ..........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2012, 08:42:09 PM

At the half ....

Buffalo St. 41, Oneonta 38

Oswego 28, Plattsburgh 22
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 08:49:39 PM
Oswego leads Plattsburgh at the break 28-22. Plattsburgh grabs an early lead and extends it to 17-10 with 9:43 left in the half. Cardinals go colder that a North Country winter and fail to score a point over the next 6:50 as Oswego goes on a 10-0 run to regain the lead 20-17. John Perez layup finaly breaks the ice but the Lakers open up their largest lead of the half at 26-19. Cards Chris Manning hits a 3 pointer and Lakers Chris Gilke makes a layup with 1:00 left to complete the scoring for the period. It's been the Hayden Ward show for Oswego as he leads all scorers with 15 points. Cardinals have to slow him down or it's all over. John Perez leads Plattsburgh with 7 points. Cards missed way too many layups and got a little sloppy on the offensive end that led to some easy Laker buckets. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 08:50:27 PM
Geneseo and Roberts Wesleyan all tied at the break at 36.

Gordon Lyons with 11 for the Blue Knights Connor Fedge with 9.  Mike Stone with 14 for Wesleyan.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
Fredonia State up 39-32 over New Paltz at the half.


Joe Monahan with 11 for Fredonia. Amir Billups has 8.  Deveino McRae with 9 for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2012, 09:07:40 PM

Cortland opens up 21 point lead over Potsdam seven minutes into the final half ......  ........Swells to 24 point margin as RDragons raining threes
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 09:09:21 PM
Buffalo State puling away from Oneonta as they open up a 63-50 advantage with 11:44 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 09:10:57 PM
Oswego 44 Plattsburgh 41 with 11:17 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 09:23:20 PM
Three pointer by Ezra Hodgson gives Plattsburgh their first lead of the 2nd half 49-48. John Perez follows with a layup after an Oswego miss and the Cards hold a 51-48 advantage with under 5 minutes to play now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2012, 09:37:17 PM

Cortland all over Potsdam 85-59. RDragons with 35 point lead with eight minutes left. Regulars sit most of the period. Hosts net 33x63fg, 7x17 3s, 13x16ft. B. Manning off the pine for 18 pts(7x9fg, 4x5 3s), 5 rebs; H. Hefele 14 pts(6x9fg), 5 rebs; K. McMahon 13 pts(6x10fg), 6 rebs; J. Winter 12 pts(4x6fg), 5 assts; J. Smith 5 assts; L. Herron 9 pts, 6 stls. Twelve Corts score. Potsdam 22x58fg. M. Lake 13 pts, C. Pierce 12 pts, R. Duquette 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2012, 09:50:27 PM

Plattsburgh nips Oswego 59-57 ....survives 25 pt, 15 reb effort from Laker H. Ward
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2012, 09:52:39 PM

Buffalo St. 85, Oneonta 64 .... Big night from R. Epps .....27 pts(5x10 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
Geneseo falls to Roberts Wesleyan 76-73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 09:59:22 PM
New Paltz 92 Fredonia 87 in double OT

New Paltz and Fredonia go down to the wire with New Paltz up 68-66. Freds come down looking to tie it up with 12 seconds to go and Tyrone Clark is fouled on a drive to the hoop. He makes both free throws and New Paltz fails to get off a decent shot in the final 10 seconds. Way to much dribbling. The game heads to overtime.

Fredonia opens the extra session with a 3 pointer by Amir Billups but New Paltz comes down and matches them as Matt Devine drains one. Blue Devils Tyrone Clark then makes a jumper for Fredonia but Devine makes another 3 pointer to give the Hawks a 74-73 edge. Billups misses a jumper and commits a foul and Hawks Deveino McRae makes a pair of free throws. Billups then makes a jumper to cut it to 1 and Deveino makes a layup to restore the 3 point Hawk edge. Joe Monahan then buries a 3 for the Blue Devils to tie it up with 54 seconds to go. Hawks Shalik Jenkins is then fouled with 23 seconds left and makes them both. Fredonia's Tyrone Clark makes a basket to tie it up with 19 seconds left and the Hawks make a basket at the buzzer but the officials wave it off and we go to double overtime tied at 80.

After New Paltz misses a pair of free throws to open the 2nd OT the Blue Devils misfire on a three point attempt. Hawks come down and Matt Devine buries another trifecta to make it 83-80. teams exchange possessions with each team missing 3's and then Fredonia's Tyrone Clark gets a dunk. Hawks miss but get the offensive rebound and Devine lays it in to restore the 3 point edge. Hawks Andrew Joseph commits a foul and then is called for a technical and Fredonia hits all 3 free throws to tie it up at 85 each. Hawks then turn the ball over but Blue Devils misfire and New Paltz comes down and hits another 3 pointer by Shalik Jenkins to make 88-85 with 47 seconds to go. Fredonia misses a 3 point attempt of their own with 14 seconds left and fouls the Hawks Jenkins with 8 seconds to go. He makes both free throws to make it 90-85 and Fredonia calls a time out. Fredonia goes coast to coast to score and promptly fouls on the inbounds pass. Hawk's Devine makes both free throws to make it 92-87 and that's a final. Exciting game in Fredonia.

Deveino McRae with a monster night had 23 points and 17 rebounds to lead in both categories. Matt Devine had 22 points with 4 three pointers. Shareef Taylor and Shalik Jenkins both tossed in 16 points.

The Blue Devils were led by Tyrone Clark with 22, Joe Monahan with 21 and four 3 pointers of his own. He also had 4 assists, 4 rebounds, and 3 steals. Amir Billups added 15 points and 6 rebounds.

Tomorrow New Paltz will face Buffalo State at 4 PM. The Hawks improve to 3-2 (1-0 in conference)

Fredonia will host Oneonta at 4 PM. The blue Devils fall to 2-3 (0-1)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2012, 09:50:55 PM
Lakers throw a length of the court pass to Hayden Ward who takes a step ot two to the hoop and throws up a shot that misses and the Cards rebound to take the victory. Big win for the young Cardinals....59-57.

Calling this big is like saying "NY City has some tall buildings". Great win magic. It was obvious that Plattsburgh had the talent after watching them hang in with Middlebury this weekend! But this 1 is B-I-G!!!!! Beating Oswego in their building hasn't been done in the 'Yac since Feb of 2010! Congrats.

Plattsburgh at Cortland tomorrow at looks like Saturdays "Game of the Day". Todays results show that Cortland is running on all cylinders! Still awaiting the New Paltz /Fredonia results!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2012, 11:19:18 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2012, 09:50:55 PM
Lakers throw a length of the court pass to Hayden Ward who takes a step ot two to the hoop and throws up a shot that misses and the Cards rebound to take the victory. Big win for the young Cardinals....59-57.

Calling this big is like saying "NY City has some tall buildings". Great win magic. It was obvious that Plattsburgh had the talent after watching them hang in with Middlebury this weekend! But this 1 is B-I-G!!!!! Beating Oswego in their building hasn't been done in the 'Yac since Feb of 2010! Congrats.

Plattsburgh at Cortland tomorrow at looks like Saturdays "Game of the Day". Todays results show that Cortland is running on all cylinders! Still awaiting the New Paltz /Fredonia results!!

??? !!   In the regular season maybe, but Brockport beat the Lakers in Oswego, on February 25th, 2011, in the semifinals of the SUNYAC tournament, 74-70. I'm surprised you didn't remember that one, because after all, your Bengals didn't have to face the Lakers at home to win the conference tournament. You got to play Brockport instead and whomped em 67-50 to win the automatic NCAA bid. ;D

But you were semi-correct in that they hadn't lost a Regular season SUNYAC game at home since February of 2010. And the last team to do that...why the Plattsburgh State Cardinals of course 81-66 on 2-12-10. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 12:20:08 AM
Plattsburgh State 59 Oswego State 57

The Lakers 32 regular season SUNYAC win streak comes to an end as Plattsburgh holds on to upset Oswego in Max Ziel Gym. Cards with the early lead 17-10 proceed to go scoreless for nearly 7 minutes and fall behind 20-17 during that time Oswego would maintain their edge and go into the locker room up 28-22 at the break. Cards closed to within 2 early on in the 2nd but couldn't get over the hump as the Lakers continued to maintain a slight margin. Down 44-39 at the 11:46 mark the Cardinals got a pair of free throws from Shamoy McIntosh and a 3 pointer from Mike Mitchell to finally draw even with the Lakers. Twice more the Lakers went ahead but each time the Cards fought back and finally gained a lead on Ezra Hodgson's 3 pointer at 49-48 with 6:29 left to play. After Oswego missed twice on their next possession, John Perez scored on a nice inside move to make it 51-48. It was a lead they would never relinquish.

Plattsburgh with a 6 point lead 56-50 with 1:46 to go. Hayden Ward comes down and scores to cut it to 4. Plattsburgh misfires on their next possession, but Oswego turns the ball over on a Mike Mitchell steal.  Perez misses a layup for the Cards and Oswego's Ward scores again to close to 56-54 with 38 seconds to go. Oswego fouls with 33 ticks left and Shamoy McIntosh makes the 1st one and the Lakers call a time out. McIntosh misses the 2nd one but Lakers' Daniel Ross turns it over and Lakers have to foul again. John Perez goes to the line and hits 1 of 2 to make it a 4 point Cardinal lead. 58-54 with 27 seconds left. Lakers call another timeout. Chris Gilkes drives to the basket and makes a layup and is fouled and completes the 3 point play. 58-57 with 5 seconds left to play. Lakers Sean Michele fouls Kalik Parker who misses his first attempt and the Lakers call another time out. 4.7 seconds to go. Parker makes the second free throw and Coach Tom Curle calls a timeout for Plattsburgh. Final play of the game coming up unless it goes to overtime.
Lakers throw a length of the court pass to Hayden Ward who takes a step ot two to the hoop and throws up a shot that misses and the Cards rebound to take the victory.

Plattsburgh was led by John Perez with 14 points and 9 rebounds (6x1o fg, 2x4 ft). Chris Manning also had double figures with 10 pts (2x12 fg, 1x5 3's 5x6 ft). Chris did not have a good night shooting the rock other than his trips to the charity stripe, but his all around game was still solid for the Cards. When he was on the floor, the Cardinals were at their best. He finished with 5 rebounds and 4 assists in 20 minutes of play. McIntosh, Hodgson, Shavar Fields and Ed Correa all had 6 points each  Once again, as has been the case all year, Coach Tom Curle went to his bench early and often. Thirteen players saw action and 10 of them hit the scoring column. I said at the beginning of the season that the coaching staff had some tough choices to make regarding who gets on the floor and for how long. In tonight's game their leading scorer on the season didn't even play in the first half. Ten different players have started in a game this year and 11 players are averaging double digit minutes per game. Last year's leading scorer has yet to start a game this year.

Cardinals shot 20x53 from the field (37.7 %) and only 5x17 from the 3 point line (29.4%). They were 14x21 from the line (66.7%) but did manage to go 8x12 at the end of the game to hold off Oswego. The battle of the boards was a draw as each team corraled 37 and the turnovers were pretty even as well, with Plattsburgh giving the ball away 13 times to 12 for Oswego.

Oswego got a big night from Hayden Ward with 25 points and 15 rebounds to lead all players in both categories. Chris Gilkes added 16 points and 5 rebounds. Sean Michele had 9 points and 4 rebounds.

Lakers stats were very similar to Plattsburgh as they shot 19x54 from the field (35.2%), 3x17 from the arc (17.6%) and 16x22 from the stripe (72.7%)

Oswego will host Potsdam State on Saturday at 4 PM. Lakers lose their first game of the season and fall to 3-1 (0-1 in the YAC)

Plattsburgh travels to Cortland for another tough game on Saturday at 4 PM. Cards improve to 4-1 (1-0)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
Geneseo 73 Roberts Wesleyan 76

This was a tough one for the Blue Knights to lose and they probably wish they could get a do over for the last 2 minutes of play. Geneseo fell behind 8-2 out of the gate but quickly tied the game up a few minutes into the period. They could not however claim the lead and spent most of the half playing catchup. The Redhawks, on several ocassions, went up by 6 points, which was the largest lead they would get, but Geneseo always came back and finally did go ahead 36-34 on a Ryan Riefenhauser jumper with 1:37 left to play. RW tied it up on their next possession and the teams were tied at 36 at hte end of the half.

After a lead change and 3 ties Wesleyan forged in front and the 2nd half was a repeat of the first period with the Blue knights once again playing catch up. The teams were tied at 42 when Wesleyan built several 5 point leads, the first time at 50-45. Each time Geneseo would respond and close to within a point only to have the Redhawks create some daylight. Down 56-55 after a Matt Curry 3 pointer, Geneseo had a turnover, a foul and then a technical foul on the bench. The Redhawks made all 3 free throws and opened up a 9 point advantage for the largest lead of the night, at 64-55. Curry made another trifecta, and Riefenhauser made a layup to pull the Knights back within 4. Still down 70-64 with 3:53 to go Andy Drescher buried a triple, and a pair of Blue Knight layups sandwiched a Redhawk basket to make it 72-71 with 1:58 left. With a free throw coming on the last made layup by Gordon Lyons, the Knights had a chance for the tie but he missed it. However, the Redhawks missed a layup and Matt Curry grabbed the rebound and was fouled. He missed both foul shots but got the rebound on the 2nd miss and Lyons made up for his missed free throw seconds earlier by burying a jumper to give the Knights their first lead of the half at 73-72 with 1:07 remaining. The Redhawks came down and missed a 3 point attempt but the rebound went to Wesleyan's Tyrel Dixon who put it back up and missed,got the rebound again and was fouled. He went to the line and calmly made them both despite his own coach calling a time out after he had made the 1st one. With 24 seconds left on the clock Geneseo had plenty of time to hit the game winner but 10 seconds into their possession they turned the ball over. They had to foul and the Redhawks made them both for a 3 point lead. A three point attempt by Geneseo was no good and the ballgame was over.

Geneseo was led by Connor Fedge with 16 points (5x12 fg, 0x1 3's 6x7 ft), 8 rebounds, and 4 assists. Gordon Lyons had 15 pts (6x9 fg, 3x6 ft) and Matt Curry added 12 (4x5 fg, 4x5 3's, 0x2 ft). Blue Knights shot 27x53 from the field (50.9 %) 5x11 from long distance (45.5%) but only 14x25 from the line (56%). They lost the rebounding battle 32-25 but only had 11 turnovers to 18 for the Redhawks.

Roberts Wesleyan got a career high from Mike Stone as he was deadly from long range nailing 5 three pointer in 5 attempts to claim scoring honors for the game with 25 points. Overall he was 9x14 from the field and 2x3 from the line. Devin Grimes has a double-double with 16 pts (5x11 fg, 0x2 3's. 6x9 ft) and 13 rebounds. He added 3 assists 2 steals and 2 blocks for a solid all around performance. Freshman Tyrel Dixon added 11 points as he went 6x6 from the line including the last 4 Redhawk points that gave them the win. Wesleyan was 25x47 from the field (53.2%) a sizzling 9x13 (69.2%) from behind the arc, thanks to Stone's heroics and 17x22 from the line (77.3 %) Tough to lose when you shoot the ball that well.

The Blue Devils will now take on RIT Saturday at 1:00 PM at Roberts Wesleyan in the 7th place game. They fall to 2-3 on the year.

Roberts Wesleyan now 3-3, will face Brockport in the 5th place game at 3:00 PM Saturday also in the Redhawks gym.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 02:34:55 PM
Games on tap for today

Geneseo vs RIT at Roberts Wesleyan

I'm taking Geneseo here but just realized the game started at 1:00 PM  Can't find a live stats link but based on Brockport's win over RIT yesterday I think the Blue Knights will be equally successful. I think it will be by a similar margin so I'll go with Geneseo  72 -56.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 02:39:46 PM

Brockport @ Roberts Wesleyan 3:00 PM  Wendy's  Classic 5th place game.

I'm using the same logic here as I did in the RIT-Geneseo matchup. If Wesleyan can beat Geneseo then I think they will probably take down the Golden Eagles. Again a similar score as the Geneseo game. Roberts Wesleyan 73-70 over Brockport but I hope I get this one wrong.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Conference games today all at 4:00 PM

Potsdam at Oswego

The Lakers start a new streak today. I don't think it will reach 32 again but pretty sure they'll get #1 this afternoon. Hayden Ward will be unstoppable again and the Lakers will win this game by double digits. Oswego is favored by 18.5 points and that sounds about right. Oswego 84 Potsdam 66.

New Paltz at Buffalo State

New Paltz played a double OT game yesterday and came away with a 92-87 win. I think they might be a little tired out. Bengals should get the job done here even if the Hawks had fresh wheels. Oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 9.5 point favorite but New Paltz has always struggled in Buffalo. I'll take the Bengals 85-73.

Oneonta at Fredonia

Flip a coin. Hard game to predict. Posted line also calls it close as Fredonia is rated a half point favorite. I'll go with the home team to win a tight one as the Blue Devils can't afford a lost weekend at home. If they lose this game 10th place could be their permanent resting place. Blue Devils 68-64.

Plattsburgh at Cortland

Red Dragons have beaten the Cardinals in 4 straight games over the past 2 years and 6 of 10 in the past 6 years. I'd like to think that streak is about to end. The point spread in this game favors Cortland by 7.5, but I have a feeling it'll be closer. My head tells me that the Red Dragon sharpshooters will do their thing, especially on the floor of Corey Gymnasium but my heart wants a Cardinal win in the worst way. jdex is down in Florida laughing at me because he feels my dilemma. Cardinals hung with Cortland in 2 of their 3 games last year and I know this team is better than last year's version, but unlike the Lakers, who lost a big part of their offense, the Red Dragons didn't lose a thing. I still want to root for the Cards and I don't care if I get this one right. I said at the start of the weekend I'd be happy if Plattsburgh went 1-1 on this trip, but I suddenly have gotten greedy. I'll take the Cards in another upset, 73-70. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
Just found out the score of the Geneseo-RIT game by checking the Tigers website. It looks like the Blue Knights won 67-58 but no details or box score from RIT or Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 04:02:46 PM
Found the Roberts Wesleyan website and discovered they have a video of the Brockport-Roberts Wesleyan game. Here's the link if anyone's interested: http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/rwc.portal#

Game is at halftime and Brockport is up 38-35. Live stats from the link as well. Shows the Eagles twice had a nine point lead at 32-23 and 34-25 but the Redhawks have come back to make it a single possession game at the break.

Redhawks Devin Grimes leads all scorers with 17 points and 14 rebounds. He had a double-double yesterday against Geneseo of 16 points and 13 rebounds. He's already beat both those figures in the first half alone. John Ivy leads the Eagles with 13 points and 4 rebounds. Matt Lee with 9 points. Redhawks' Grimes has as many rebounds as the entire Brockport team. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2012, 04:34:56 PM

Cortland with 36-26  lead over guest Plattsburgh at the half. RDragons by 34-23 before Cards rebound. Appears Pburgh depth trying to take a toll. Starters don't see a lot of court time. Twelve Burghers with minutes, though starters have done most of the scoring. Cards under 30 percent from the field. H. Hefele wth 10 points for CSt, K. McMahon with nine. J. Perez with 7 pts for Pburgh, C. Manning 6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 04:39:56 PM
Oswego leads Potsdam 35-32 at the half. Hayden Ward with 13 and Sean Michele with 10. Rob Duquette with 7 for Potsdam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 04:49:52 PM
 Buffalo State with a 54-40 lead over New Paltz at the break.  Rod Epps with 15 and Jake Simmons with 11. Maurice Miles with 10. Hawks led by Shareff Taylor with 10, Deveion McRae and Shalik Jenkins with 8 each.

Bengals out to a double digit lead 4 minutes and 20 seconds into the game at 18-6 . Built the lead to 16 but Hawks came back and cut it to 6 at 25-19 with 10:20 to go. Bengal go on a 14-5 spurt to build it back to 15. Enjoyed largest lead again at 48-32 and settle for the 14 point advantage.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 04:51:50 PM
Brockport defeats Roberts Wesleyan 78-68 to claim 5th place in the Wendy's Classic.

John Ivy leads the Eagles with 30 points (10x14 fg, 2x4 3's, 8x9 ft) and grabs 5 rebounds. Matt Lee scores 17 (6x10 fg, 4x7 3's, 1x4 ft) and has 8 boards.

Redhawks led by Devin Grimes with 23 points (9x18 fg, 0x2 3's, 5x5 ft) and 20 rebounds.This guy would make the D3hoops team of the week if he played for a D3 school. ;D Tyrel Dixon had 17 points (6x10 fg, 5x6 ft) and 8 rebounds. Bill Bromirski added 14 points (4x11fg, 4x7 3's, 2x2 ft).

Brockport killed on the boards 45-31 but won the turnover battle as they took good care of the ball with omly 6 turnovers. The Redhawks had 15.

Brockport evens their record at 2-2 and will be in action on Tues Dec 4th when they host Oswego at 8:00 PM. It will be the Eagles first conference game of the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2012, 05:18:04 PM

Plattsburgh scoreless from 16:03 to 9:22 till M. Mitchell triple ...........Still, Cortland far from on fire and margin just under 10. Cards . McIntosh had gotten Pburgers within three with nine point personal streak. Burgh still under 30 percent fg.  Corts hike margin to 15 on three from B. Manning with seven minutes left ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
I'm listening to Bobby Comstock's broadcast jdex and watching live stats, so quit rubbing it in. ;D Plattsburgh is shooting like 30 %.

Live stats is actually a number of seconds ahead of the live broadcast.


More updates.

Fredonia leads Oneonta 54-53 with 6:17 to go. fredonia's website says that Fredonia beat Oneonta about a half hour ago but it's the women's score posted on the men's homepage and schedule along with the women's box score. Apparentlya slight mixup.

Oswego over Potsdam 64-53 with 2 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
Cortland 68 Plattsburgh 55 final. >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2012, 05:37:09 PM
Cortland 68, Plattsburgh 55

Burgh gets within 11 at 3:22 on S. McIntosh FTs to finish off 17 pt game. Corts regain balance and pull away. Twas 67-52 at 1:15. Certainly not a Cardinal shooting highlight reel! J. Perez with 7 pts, 7 rebs in 26'. Besides McIntosh, G. Tibbs' 10 pts only other double figure producer. Six straight Tibbs' markers helped Pburgh get back into the contest. Cortland glad to see K. McMahon shine inside with 15 pts(6x11fg), 11 rebs before fouling out after 31' stint. H. Hefele with 15 pts(6x11fg), 4 rebs, 4pf; J. Smith 13 pts, 4 assts; J. Winter 9 pts, 3 assts; L. Herron 8 pts, 4 rebs; B. Manning 5 assts, 7 pts.

Am sure Magic will expound!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
Buffalo State's live stats crapped out at halftime but I managed to get an audio feed to listen to the last few minutes.

Buff State up 95-84 over New Paltz with 1:30 left to play.

Oswego wins over Potsdam 69-54.

Fredonia up 63-59 over Oneonta with 1:41 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
Buffalo State lets New Paltz creep back near the end with some turnovers and the Hawks get it back to a 1 possession game before 2 key free throws by Anyar Majak salt it away for Buff State. The game goes final and it's 97-93.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 05:58:31 PM
Fredonia defeats Oneonta 72-66.  Amir Billups and Tyrone Clark with 14 each to lead the Blue Devils. Elliot Rogers and Ray Parris both score 12. Red Dragon's Jackson Zuvic was the game's high scorer with 25 pts and 8 rebounds. Zach Mager added 11 and Frankie Kelly had 10 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
In the Buffalo State-New Paltz game Rod Epps led the Bengals with 25 points (7x18 fg, 4x10 3's, 7x10 ft) and Shareef Taylor had 25 (10x18 fg, 1x2 3's, 4x4 ft) for the Hawks.

Bengals had 5 players hit double figures as Jake Simmons scored 17pts, (7x16 fg, 3x8 3's) with 4 assists, 3 steals, and 3 rebounds. Maurice Miles had 15 pts (6x8 fg, 1x1 3's, 2x4 ft) and led the team with 5 rebounds. Seth Runge scored 12 points on 6x9 from the field and Anyar Majak had 10 points but none bigger than his 2 foul shots with 14 seconds left which gave the Bengals a 4 point, 2 possession lead.

Bengals were up comfortably 95-84 with 1:23 left to play. Hawks Matt Devine scored on a layup, and New Paltz sent Buffalo State to the line for a 1 & 1. Bengals missed the foul shot and Shareef Taylor scores to cut the lead to 7 at 95-88. Bengals then turn the ball over and Runge gets his 5th foul hitting Devine in the act of shooting a three pointer. He promptly makes all 3 foul shouts to cut the lead to 4 with 39 seconds to play. Bengals then turn the ball over once more and Devine is fouled again with 14 seconds remaining. He makes them both to cut it to 95-93, setting the stage for Majak's heroics to finally ground the Hawks and making Devine's 3 point attempt at the buzzer meaningless.

In addition to Shareef Taylor's 25 point night Devine had 19 points (4x13fg, 2x8 3's 9x9 ft) and completed a double-double with 11 rebounds. Deveino McRae had 16 pts (5x7 fg,6x6 ft) with 10 rebounds for his double-double. Shalik Jenkins also had 16 pts (3x10 fg,0x2 3's, 10x10 ft). Bengals outshot the Hawks from the field 35x68 (51.5%) to 27x65 (41.5%) and from the 3 point line. 10x21 (47.6%) for Buffalo and 4x15 (26.7%) for the Hawks. New Paltz made twice as many free throws as the Bengals going 35x37 (94.6%) to 17x27 (63.0%). Bengals with only 4 turnovers to 12 for New Paltz but the Bengals certainly came at a bad time. Luckily they had the right guy at the line at the right time in Majak.

Buffalo State ups their record to 4-1 and most importantly is tied at the top of the conference standings with Cortland at 2-0. Bengals now off until they travel north next weekend to face first Potsdam and then Plattsburgh. I predict they'll go 1-1 on their road trip. ;D

New Paltz will meet a tough opponent on Tuesday when they host Eastern Connecticut at 7:00 PM. The Hawks fall to 3-3 overall (1-1).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 06:14:53 PM
Oswego 69 Potsdam 64.

Bears hung with the Lakers for the first half and 5 minutes into the 2nd period. Lakers only up 43-41 with 15:31 to play go on a 10-0 run to open up a 53-41 margin. Closest the Bears could get after that was 6 on one ocassion. Lakers free throws boosted the lead to the final 15 point margin.

Hayden Ward once again with a big game as he scored 29 points with 11 rebounds. Sean Michele with 16 and Chris Gilkes with 11. Rashawn Powell nearly gets a double-double with 9 pts and 9 boards.

Mark Lake is the only Bear in double digits as he scores  12 points. Rob Duquette with 9 points and 7 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2012, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
Buffalo State ups their record to 4-1 and most importantly is tied at the top of the conference standings with Cortland at 2-0. Bengals now off until they travel north next weekend to face first Potsdam and then Plattsburgh. I predict they'll go 1-1 on their road trip. ;D
"1-1"????? Should I assume that the 1 loss would be against Potsdam?? :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2012, 08:59:19 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2012, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
Buffalo State ups their record to 4-1 and most importantly is tied at the top of the conference standings with Cortland at 2-0. Bengals now off until they travel north next weekend to face first Potsdam and then Plattsburgh. I predict they'll go 1-1 on their road trip. ;D
"1-1"????? Should I assume that the 1 loss would be against Potsdam?? :D

I seem to remember the Bears gave you all you could handle up there last year. With no Justin and no Nico who knows? And 2 years ago you barely escaped with an 83-81 nailbiter. ???  If you play the last few minutes like you did today anything's possible!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2012, 12:36:06 AM
OUCH Magic :o ! Your memory is correct. I may have to bum a ride to make this north country trip to see these 2 games first hand.  :D . Hoping for a 2-0 trip but hey....you never know.

   I see the forecast calls for snow Friday and Saturday! The weather up there on my last trip was so bad I thought we should have pulled over. I wasn't driving so I just closed my eyes. I hope the North Country weather Gods will be gentle on this trip! I'll look for the red hat!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2012, 10:11:31 AM
Cortland St. 68 Plattsburgh 55

Cortland continued their mastery over the Cardinals as they took control of this game halfway through the 1st period and fought off every challenge the Cardinals would throw at them. Fortunately for the Red Dragons they got Plattsburgh on a day that the basket must have had a lid on it because the Cardinals certainly had a hard time putting it through the hoop. Red Dragons outshot, outrebounded, and out maneuvered, the Cards on Saturday afternoon showing why they are the team to beat in the SUNYAC this season. It seemed like every basket the Red Dragons made, was either a layup or a three pointer, only because, in reality, that was the case. Cortland made 24 field goals in the game and 13 of them were layups, while 7 were 3 pointers. Meanwhile the Cards were missing so many layups I got tired of hearing Bobby Comstock, Cortland's radio announcer, describing yet another missed Cardinal opportunity.

After several ties and lead changes in the early going Cortland held a 17-16 edge with 10 minutes left in the half. Each team missed on their next 3 possessions until Dragons Lamard Herron hit back to back jumpers in a 30 second span to boost the lead to 5. A Harrison Hefele layup and Jesse Winter trifecta sandwiched a layup by the Cards Shamoy McIntosh aa the lead grew to 8 points. With 3:47 left in the half the Red Dragons stretched it to double digits at 30-20 to complete a 13-4 run. The teams played even for the rest of the period and Cortland took that 10 point edge into the break.

Red Dragons opened the 2nd half with 4 quick points but a layup by Gary Tibbs and 9 straight points by McIntosh fueled an 11-0 Plattsburgh run to make it a one possession game with 16 minutes left to play. It was the Card's last hurrah as they would get no closer the rest of the game. Three consecutive layups by Jeremy Smith, Kevin McMahon, and Herron built the lead back up but  a Mike Mitchell triple cut it to 7 points at 47-40 with 9:22 left. The Red Dragons would have no part of a comeback. however, and promptly reeled off 8 straight points on a Hefele layup, plus back to back three pointers by Brian Manning. Just like that the lead was back to 15 at 55-40 with 7:22 remaining. Closest Plattsburgh got after that was 11 points.

Cortland certainly didn't put on a shooting clinic yesterday, I've witnessed one of those in past performances by the Red Dragons, but compared to Plattsburgh's exhibition it sure felt like one. I'd like to think the Cardinals suffered a letdown after their big win the day before at Oswego, but in this league if you don't bring it every game, especially on the road, you're going to be disappointed at the end of the day.

Cortland shot 24x55 from the field, a respectable 43.6% and 7x22 from 3 point range (31.8%). They were 13x18 from the stripe (72.2%). They grabbed 42 rebounds to 38 for the Cards and committed 15 turnovers to 14 for Plattsburgh. McMahon and Hefele with 15 and Smith with 13 led the Dragon in the scoring column. McMahon was also the game's leading rebounder with 11. They recieved solid performances from Jesse Winter with 9 pts, 4 rebounds and 3 assists, while Brian Manning added 7 points, 5 assists, 3 steals, 2 rebounds, and a blocked shot. Lamard Herron had 8 points and 4 rebounds as well.

Plattsburgh got 17 points from Shamoy McIntosh and 10 points with 5 rebounds from Gary Tibbs. Chris Manning, Plattsburgh's shortest starter found hiimself in the unusual position of being the team's leading rebounder with 9 boards. He scored 6 points, had 5 assists and 2 steals. John Perez had 7 points and 7 rebounds. Cardinals shot 21x64 fro the field (32.8%) and only 5x25 from long distance (20%). The free throw percentage wasn't good either as they made only half of their attempts, going 8x16.

Cortland remains undefeated at 5-0 (2-0) and tied with Buffalo State at the top of the conference standings. They will take their undefeated streak on the road this coming Tuesday as they travel to Geneseo for an 8:00 PM contest. It's the first of 6 consecutive road  games for the Red Dragons as they won't play in Corey Gymnasium again until January 11th when they host the Buffalo State Bengals, in what looks like a possible battle for 1st place.

Plattsburgh will look to regroup this Tuesday as they travel to face a tough Keene State team from the Little East Conference. The Cardinals are 4-2 (1-1) on the season and have another busy weekend upcomng as Fredonia and Buffalo State visit Memorial Hall.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 01:52:36 PM
Congratulations to Hayden Ward, who was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week, for the week ending 12-1-12. He started the week with 24 points and 6 boards against Cobleskill on Tuesday and kept getting better.  Ward had two huge games over the weekend. On Friday against Plattsburgh he scored 25 points with 10 rebounds and topped that off Saturday against Potsdam with 29 points and 11 rebounds.. He also reached the 1000 point mark in the Potsdam game. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:


"Hayden Ward has been named the SUNYAC Men's Basketball Player of the Week. Ward averaged a double-double with 26.0 points and 10.7 boards per game, while shooting 53.8 percent from thefloor and 94.7 percent from the free-throw line and playing all but four minutes of three games. He matched a career-high 25 points in a two-point loss to Plattsburgh on Friday night. Ward then set a new career high the next day by scoring 29 points against Potsdam. During the game, he also eclipsed the 1,000-point mark early in the second half, becoming the 16th in Laker men's basketball history to do so."

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
Nine teams in action tonight in the  YAC with only Buffalo State idle.

St. Lawrence at Potsdam State  7:00 PM

Both teams off to slow starts. Saints with a 2 game win streak against lesser competition than first 3 games which were all losses. Potsdam still showing inconsistencies that plagued them all of last year. Saints own a 4 game winning streak in this series and the last 2 haven't been close. Bears 1-4, hope home cooking is the answer and look to sweep their North Country rivals as they defeated Clarkson last week 77-65.  Point spread has the Bears favored by 6.5 points but I think it might be closer. I'll take Potsdam to edge the Saints 73-70.

Eastern Connecticut State at New Paltz State  7:00 PM

The Hawks host the team that eliminated Oswego last year in the NCAA tournament. This year's Warriors' team isn't as strong as that version was, but will still be a tough opponent. New Paltz can score but gives up a lot of points as well. Warriors more of a  defensive minded team. Neither team has much help off the bench but think the Hawks is a little longer. Oddsmakers have made the Hawks a 5.5 point favorite. I think that's about right. I'll go with New Paltz 81-78 over the Warriors.

Fredonia State at Houghton  7:00 PM

The Blue Devils travel to the newest member of the Empire 8 conference as the Houghton Highlanders transition over to D3. Houghton comes into the contest with an 0-4 record and has only played 1 D3 school losing to Pitt-Bradford from the AMCC conference 71-70. Fredonia with a 3-3 log, has already lost to AMCC leader Hilbert in their opening game of the season. Last 2 games have showed improvement as they hung with New Paltz before losing in OT and defeated Oneonta. Posted line has the Blue Devils listed as a slight favorite at 2.5 points. I think they pull off the win here 72-66.

Skidmore at Oneonta State 7:00 PM

Oneonta 1-4 has played a tougher schedule than the 4-1 Thoroughbreds. Skidmore's 4 wins have come against teams with a combined 5-19 record. Oneonta's 4 losses have been to teams with a 17-6 combined record. Point spread has Skidmore favored by 3.5 points. I also think this will be a close one. Throughbreds lost a lot from last year's NCAA tourney team but another solid group of freshmen blending well with veterans. Red Dragons capable of pulling off a minor upset here but I think Skidmore will prevail 66-61.

Plattsburgh State at Keene State  7:00 PM

Plattsburgh State getting a little road weary as they hit the road for their 4th straight game. Keene State, also from the Little East Conference will be another tough game for the Cardinals. The Owls are one of the preseason favorites to duke it out for the conference title as they return plenty of firepower from last year's 19-8 team. The Owls are a big team, led by 6'10" forward Rashad Wright (14.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 30 minutes per game) and 6'6" forward Eric Fazio (14.8 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 27 min.pg). 6'8" Montel Walcott and 7'0" Nate Howard come off the bench to spell the starters. Last year's leading scorer, guard Ryan Martin is also averaging double figures with 12.8 ppg. Like the Cardinals the Owls have a deep rotation with 10 players getting double digit minutes per game. Owls come into the game as slight favorites with the posted line at 1.5 points. I'm certainly rooting for the Cardinals to come away with a win here but think they may be up against it. Hope I'm wrong but think Keene State will win this one 75-70.

Oswego at Brockport 8:00 PM

Lakers coming off weekend split in the YAC will want to stay close to the leaders. Brockport, yet to play a conference game, gets the defending champs right off the bat. Still better than Plattsburgh, as we had to get them on the road. Eagles coming off a 2-1 slate in the Wendy's Classic have been made slight 3.5 point favorites here by the oddsmakers. I think that's a little out of whack. I'm taking Hayden Ward and the Lakers 81-76.

Cortland at Geneseo  8:00 PM

Cortland brings their undefeated record into Geneseo's Alumni Fieldhouse looking to take over undisputed 1st place in the YAC. Red Dragons with rather easy wins over the weekend may find the going tougher tonight. These teams faced each other 3 times last year beating each other on the road before Cortland won the rubber match in the SUNYAC tournament. Both teams return quite a bit from last year's teams but I think the Red Dragons return more. Point spread favors Cortland by 1.5 points. I think they win it 77-71             

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 07:59:13 PM
Plattsburgh leads Keene State 31-30 at the half. Eight players in the scoring column for the Cardinals led by Chris Manning and Ezra Hodgson with 6 each. Owls with 7 players on the board led by Ryan Martin with 8. Sloppily played half with 21 turnovers between the 2 teams Keene St. with 12 and the Cards with 9. Cards had an 8 point lead on 2 separate ocassions.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 08:24:44 PM
New Paltz down at half to Eastern Connecticut 42-28.

Oneonta led Skidmore at the half 40-36 but now falls behind 64-58 with 3:49 left to play

Fredonia leads Houghton 42-29 with 7:56 left in the game.

Potsdam led St Lawrence 32-31 at the break but now trails 48-47 with 8:41 left to play.

Plattsburgh still up by 1 51-50 with 8:24 left to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Geneseo getting great bench scoring and leads Cortland 31-27 at intermission. Spares have struck for 24 of the Knights' points led by M. Curry's 10 pts on 4x7fg, 2x3 3s. K. McMahon with 10 points for the Corts who are a mere 1x2 in threes. Both squads shooting in 40 percent range from the field. Eight Gens played 10' each in the period, another 12', and the 10th 8'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 08:36:42 PM
Plattsburgh up 60-53 with 4:06 to play over Keene St.

St Lawrence up 52-50 over Potsdam with 4:18 to play.

New Paltz closed the gap now trails Eastern Connecticut 58-54 with 10:05 to go.

Final at Oneonta as Skidmore wins 66-63

Fredonia up 56-31 late in the game.

Geneseo over Cortland 31-27 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 08:57:55 PM
Another barnburner at New Paltz as the Hawks trail 74-72 with 1 minute left to go.

Potsdam and SLU in OT 2:53 left tied at 58

Fredonia defeats Houghton 61-39.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 09:08:51 PM
Hawks down 74-72 and Shareef Taylor goes to the line for a 1&1 but misses the front end and the Warriors grab the rebound and call time out. Hawks foul on the inbound and East Conn makes them both and they call another time out. Hawks Matt Devine commits a turnover and fouls. Warriors miss the 1&1 and Hawks' Taylor makes a jumper. Hawks foul with 7 seconds left and Warriors Brian Salzillo makes them both to salt this one away at 78-74. Hawks call time out and Taylor throws up a 3 point attempt at the buzzer.

New Paltz went ahead 24-23 on a triple by Shareef Taylor with 6:09 to play in the 1st half. Hawks go cold and finish the half 1x6 from the field and 2x4 from the line with 4 turnovers. Warriors' Brian Salzillo then puts on a shooting clinic and scores 22 points in the final 8:17 of the period. He had 6 triples, a layup and a jumper. 16 of his points were the Warriors' final 16 points of the half and came in the last 4 minutes. (4 were 3 pointers.). The 19-4 run gave the Warriors a 42-28 haftime advantage.   

The Hawks fought back from that deficit led by Taylor with 12 pts. and Shalik Jenkins with 8 points to close the gap to 56-54 with 10:53 to play. Three more times they got to within 2 and closed to a single point at 62-61 with 7:41 to go but couldn't get over the hump. Eastern opened the lead back to 8 at 71-63 and again New Paltz wouldn't go away. 4 times in the final 2:43 they got it down to 2 points but each time the Warriors had an answer.

New Paltz was led by Taylor who captured scoring honors with 27 points (10x16 fg, 5x9 3's, 2x4 ft) and 5 rebounds. Matt Devine had 18 points 4x6 fg, 1x1 3's, 9x10 ft)  and Jenkins had 15 (5x11 fg, 3x5 3's, 2x2 ft).

Eastern Connecticut was led by Salzillo with 26 points (9x17 fg, 6x12 3's, 2x2 ft). Chris Robitaille had 18 pts. (5x9 fg, 8x9 ft) and 8 rebounds. Mike Garrow had 17 pts.(5x11 fg, 2x3 3's, 5x7 ft)

New Paltz falls to 3-4 (1-1) and will host Brockport on Friday at 8:00 Pm, followed by Geneseo on Saturday at 4:00 Pm 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
Potsdam defeats St. Lawrence in overtime 68-66.

Bears Josh Lambert scores with 45 seconds left in regulation to tie the game at 54. both teams miss on their final possessions. In overtime Potsdam scores first but SLU comes back with a basket and 2 free throws to take the lead. Potsdam's Curtis Pierce hits a jumper to tie it at 58 and the Saints come down and misfire, get the rebound, but turn it over. Bears Mark Lake is fouled and makes them both with 2:09 to go. SLU misses again, Lake is fouled again and he makes 2 more free throws. SLU's Al Jones hits a triple to cut it to 62-61 with 1:13 left. Lake comes down, lays one in, is fouled and makes the bonus, to extend it to a 4 point margin with 57 ticks left. Saints' Kyle Miller then buries a three to once again cut it to 1, and after a Potsdam turnover SLU's Janpeter Brase makes a layup to give the Saints the lead at 66-65 with 8 seconds left. Coach Dobbs calls a timeout for the Bears, sets up a play for who else but Curtis Pierce, and Potsdam's Mr. Everything scores a layup and is fouled with 2 seconds on the clock. He drops in the freebie and that's the final of 68-66. What a finish as the Bears claim North Country superiority (on the western front, that is) as they sweep their Liberty League neighbors and put an end to SLU's 4 game winning over them.

Mark Lake leads Potsdam with 19 points. Pierce has 12 points and 6 rebounds, while Rob Duquette has 10 points and 5 boards in only 15 minutes of court time. Colin Peterson led the Bears with 8 rebounds.

St. Lawrence got a double-double from Janpeter Brase with 14 points and 16 rebounds. Kyle Miller had 12 points and 6 rebounds, while Payton Stahler added 11 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 09:16:23 PM
Cortland and Geneseo locked in a tight one as the Blue Knights lead 53-52 with 7:38 to play.

Brockport and Oswego tied at 67 with 6:53 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 09:43:04 PM
Oswego's Hayden Ward with a basket and one with 8.7 seconds left to give Oswego an 81-80 lead. Oswego takes a time out after the made free throw. 18 lead changes in the game so far. One final play coming up. Brockport comes down and the Golden Eagle player dribbles to the left side of the court and falls down turning the ball over to the Lakers. Lakers have to inbound the ball with .7 seconds on the clock and they lob it down court where it is intercepted by Port's Bobby Bell who chucks one from three quarters of the court that gets off in time but isn't close. Oswego escapes with an 81-80 victory. Lakers had the lead at the break 44-38 after breaking free from a 38 all score with 2:16 left to hit the final 3 buckets of the period. That would equal the largest lead of the half.

Nothing but back and forth play the rest of the game with numerous ties and lead changes. Port was down 78-76 with 1:21 to play. Bobby Bell hit 2 free throws to tie it up and after Oswego missed a 3 point attempt, Jon Ivy came down and buried a jumper with 27 seconds to give the Eagles the 80-78 lead. That set the stage for Ward's heroics.

Hayden Ward continues where he left off this past weekend as he leads the Lakers with 27 points (11x16 fg, 0x2 3's, 5x6 ft) and 9 rebounds just missing another double-double. Chris Gilkes backs him up with 16 points (8x16 fg, 0x1 3's, 0x1 ft), 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals. Sean Michele adds 11 points (4x9 fg, 3x7 3's,), 4 rebounds and 3 assists. Justin Haight with 8 points (3x7 fg, 1x4 3's, 1x1 ft), 4 rebounds 2 steals and an assist in 17 minutes. Lakers 34x70 fg, 5x23 3's, and 8x12 ft. Oswego with a slight edge on the glass 34-32 and only 5 TO's to 12 for Port.

Golden Eagles were led by John Ivy with game scoring honors of 29 points (10x16 fg, 4x5 3's, 5x5ft) and 6 rebounds. Derek Klein (6 assists) and Bobby Bell with 12 points each. Jordan Major and Lance Legister (4 assists) with 9 points each. Matt Lee with 8 rebounds, 6 points and 5 assists. Brockport 25x53 fg, 14x28 3's, 16x18 ft.

Oswego improves to 5-1 (2-1 YAC) and will travel to take on Ithaca on Saturday 12-8 at 4:00 PM.

Brockport falls to 2-3 (0-1) and travels East to face New Paltz on Friday at 8:00 PM and then Oneonta on Saturday at 4:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2012, 09:43:33 PM
Geneseo, up by 13 with 3:35 left, holds off Cortland 70-66 ..........R. Rieferhaser two FTs at 0:06 clinches the verdict

Knights go on 12-0 run from 7:43 to 3:35 to grab 65-52 lead at home. T. Decker's three provided the Gens with their lead at 49-48 and RDragons chased from there. Riefenhauser scored his first points at 6:30 on FTs and added a bucket. C. Fedge nailed a triple and M. Curry a layup before another Riefenhauser point. This one appeared over .....but ..........CSt closed to 68-61 at 1:37 and J. Smith made a three at 1:18 to make it 68-64. L. Herron stole the inbounds pass and hit a layup and it was 68-66 at 1:15. Geneseo worked the clock, missed a shot and Cortland had the ball at 0:25. Appeared to pass up a couple of good inside shots before J. Smith missed a three bid at 0:06. Riefenhauser was fouled and sealed the issue to hand the Corts their first setback.

Geneseo showed poise and discipline to gain the victory ......and depth a major factor. Ten Knights saw considerable playing time and all contributed. Curry 17 pts(7x12fg, 3x5 3s); G. Lyons 10 pts(4x6fg); C. Fedge 9 pts(4x7fg); Riefenhauser 8 pts, 9 rebs, 4pf; J. McKenna 7 pts(3x5fg); M. Hoy 5 assts. Knights 25x54fg, 8x18 3s, 12x20ft.

Corts led by K. McMahon once more with 22 pts(9x12fg), 7 rebs. B. Manning 10 pts(4x8fg). Herron 8 pts, 6 assts. Smith and J. Winter a combined 5x19fg, 1x8 3s. Dragons 26x55fg, 4x12 3s, 10x10ft. Outboarded 34-29 but just eight Tvers. Gens just a dozen and do terrific job containing Cortland outside game -- evidenced by 3-point totals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 04, 2012, 09:55:57 PM
Magic, please note that Duquette had 10 in 15 Minutes, but foul trouble caused him to sit.  Zac Adams and Corey Ellis had great contributions off the bench, which has been lacking in these parts of late.

Knights win over Cortland sends 'yac into who beats who on a given night land...

Glad to see Pierce gets the winning hoop +1, great kid, quality human being.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2012, 10:35:36 PM
What a night in the YAC.       Six great games tonight. I tried to watch them all.  Could only get 4 on a decent video feed. No video from New Paltz or Oneonta and the Potsdam video was very poor quality tonight. I'll list all the scores in one post:

Oswego 81  Brockport 80                                       I called this one 81-76 in favor of the Lakers. Can't get                                         
                                                                            much closer.
                                                                         
Geneseo 70 Cortland 66                                        Had Cortland winning 77-71. Almost nailed Geneseo's                                         
                                                                           score though.

Fredonia 61 Houghton 39                                    Had the winner. Not to close with my 71-66 score. Houghton worse than I figured     

Potsdam 68 St.Lawrence 66 in OT                           I had Potsdam winning 73-70 I said it would be close.

Eastern Connecticut 78 New Paltz 74                      I had New Paltz 81-78  I got ECS right anyways.

Skidmore 66 Oneonta 63                                       I guess I can get closer as I almost nailed this one as I had Skidmore winning 66-61

Plattsburgh 70 Keene St. 64                                   I was half right I had Keene winning 75-70. Glad I lost this one. ;D Almost picked   
                                                                            my Cards but didn't want to jinx them

YAC goes 3-2 out of conference and 1-1 against 2 of the better teams in the LEC.

Buffalo State now in sole possession of first place in the YAC (for the time being. ;D)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2012, 11:07:26 PM
Oooowwwweee. Busy night in the Yac. Great wins for Plattsburgh beating a little east team. I remember when Keene state knocked off then no. 1 ranked and undefeated Middlebury on Jan 31st.  Potsdam ending St. Lawrence's 4 game winning streak over them. And getting another win over the liberty league. That should definitely help with any post season decisions for at large bids in the east. Geneseo knocking Cortland from the ranks of the unbeaten. Looks like Brockport gave Oswego all that it could handle. Methinks that the regular season winner could have 2/3 losses when it's all said and done.

Results should definitely help our conference ranking!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2012, 04:56:53 AM
Plattsburgh 70 Keene State 64

Cardinals opened the scoring with a 3 pointer by Ezra Hodgson 24 seconds after the tip and held a short lived lead. Owls went ahead 7-5 for their only lead of the half. Tied at 9 Cards "instant offense", Gary Tibbs, enters the game and scores 27 seconds later to give Plattsburgh a lead they wouldn't give back. Hodgson buried another 3 on the Cards next possession and after a Keene basket Tibbs made another short jumper. Keene then commited a turnover and Ed Correa hit his 1st triple 10 seconds after he entered the game to give Plattsburgh its largest lead of the night at 19-11. Still up 29-24 with 4:15 left  the Owls Ryan Martin would score Keene's final 6 points of the period as the Cards could only manage 2 free throws and the half ended with Plattsburgh up 31-30.

Keene scored the first 2 baskets of the 2nd half and that started a series of 6 lead changes and 5 ties before the Cards down 53-52 would take the lead for good on Ed Correa's 2nd 3 pointer of the night with 6:20 left to play. Another basket by Correa on Plattsburgh's next trip down the floor and 3 Cardinal free throws stretched the lead to 60-53 with 4:06 left. 

Plattsburgh with some quick shot selections with under three minutes to go let Keene State right back in it. Score was now 62-60 in favor of the Cards with 1:45 to go. Time out called by Coach Curle. Jordan Moody scores for the Cards out of the time out. Keene St. turns it over and Moody is fouled. He makes 1 of 2 and stretches the lead to 5 with 1:13 left. Keene comes down and misses a 3 pointer and Cards come back with a 3 pointer by Moody for his 6th straight point to open up a 68-60 lead with 31 seconds left.
Keene goes coast to coast for a layup and fouls Chris Manning with 16 seconds to go. Manning misses the front end of a 1&1 and Keene rebounds and takes a time out. Moody fouls Owls Ryan Martin, who makes both free throws to make it 68-64. Keene fouls on the inbounds pass and Moody goes to the line and makes them both. Owls throw up a final three pointer that misses and it's all over 70-64 as the Cards come away with a big road win. Jordan Moody scores the last 8 Cardinal points.

Plattsburgh was led by Moody with 15 points (4x7 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x10 ft) with 8 coming in the last 1:35. Ezra Hodgson had 12 points(4x8 fg, 3x6 3's, 1x2 ft) and 4 rebounds. John Perez just missed a double-double as he had 9 points (2x6 fg, 5x6 ft) and led the Cards with 12 rebounds. He added 2 steals, 2 blocks and 1 giant leap for mankind as he outjumped Keene's 6'10' center on the opening tip. The 6'3" Perez held their big man to 5 points, nearly 10 below his season's average. Another solid game from Chris Manning with 8 points (3x5 fg, 2x3 ft), 7 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 steals. The man knows how to fill up a stat sheet. Mike Mitchell, who started along side Manning for the 1st time this year, I believe, basically giving Plattsburgh 2 point guards on the court at the same time, also had a strong game. Mitchell had 5 points (2x6 fg, 1x4 3's) with 6 assists and 4 steals. His 3 pointer in the first half came as Keene was slicing an 8 point Plattsburgh lead down to 3 and helped the Cardinals maintain an advantage that they kept throughout the half. His bucket in the 2nd half came just as Keene had stretched their lead to the largest they would enjoy at 48-43 with 12 minutes left in the game. It ignited an 8-0 Plattsburgh burst that gave them a 51-48 edge. His last 2 assists came on Plattsburgh's final 2 baskets by Moody that widened their 62-60 lead to 68-60 and put the Owls away. Freshman Ed Correa only played 9 minutes but had 3 nice baskets for an 8 point (3x6 fg, 2x5 3's) outing.

Cards shot 23x61 from the field (37.7 %) and 7x22 from 3 point range (31.8%). They were 17x24 from the line (70.8%). They were outrebounded by the taller Owls 43-37 but won the turnover battle with 21 to the Owls' 27 as both teams were a little careless with the ball. 15 players saw action for the Cardinals tonight. Plattsburgh started their smallest lineup of the season. Their tallest players were 6'5" Hodgson and 6'3" Perez.

Keene only had 1 player in double figures but he put up a big number as Ryan Martin shot 75% from the field hitting 12 of 16 shots. He was 3x5 from long distance and hit 8x10 from the stripe for a game high total of 35 points. Keene's 5 bigs (7'0", 6'10", 6'8", 6'6" and 6'6') combined for a total of  11 points and 26 boards. Keene shot 22x55 (40.0%) from the field, 3x9 from the arc (33.3%) all from Martin and 17x25 from the line (68%).

Plattsburgh improves to 5-2 and will host Fredonia on Friday night at 8:00 PM.

Keene State falls to 3-3 and will host Mass-Boston on Saturday at 3:00 PM.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2012, 07:58:46 AM
More ink on the front page for the YAC. They left out my Cards though. Here's the write up

"It was worth the wait for Geneseo State to start conference play. The Blue Knights opened their SUNYAC schedule by slaying the Red Dragons of Cortland State 70-66.  The game was Geneseo's first in conference but Cortland's third. Geneseo and Brockport State get a late start on conference play because they participate in the regional tournament currently called the Wendy's Classic. The Golden Eagles also opened SUNYAC play and lost a nailbiter to Oswego State, 81-80.

No. 14 Rhode Island College and WPI tuned up for their Thursday game with wins. The Anchormen defeated Salve Regina 66-42 and the Engineers took care of Salem State 75-71.

Curtis Pierce made a layup with two seconds left in overtime to lift Potsdam State over Saint Lawrence 68-66."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on December 05, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
New poster on the 'YAC board - NP alum. Great to see all the commentary on the 'YAC boards - just thought you needed someone who isn't a Card or a Bengal posting on here.  :)

Just wanted to defend my Hawks who I think are underrated this season - yeah - they have some issues to work out - but Coach Rejniak has recruited a monster freshman class that just hasn't come into its own yet (see McCrae - moments of brilliance and then there was last night where he looked like a freshman). Rejniak had a team of 9 last year - after he lost a handful of players to disciplinary and academic issues. He's had some rebuilding to do - and he's getting the job done. Clearly the team has a lot of talent in Devine, Taylor and an underrated Jenkins - but they need to get better at playing as a unit on offense. Need to get the ball to Devine more often - the guy only had four shots last night in the 1st half. When these guys are on - they're great - they outscored Buff in the 2nd half last Saturday. They wouldn't quit last night. Just can't capitalize. Last year - those games are lost by 15+ even with Wichard.

Rejniak has scheduled a tough non-conference schedule - he's not padding his schedule - and it's the only way Hawks will improve to be able to compete with the big guys in the YAC.

Other key players to watch are freshman Roach and Pearlman who have been subbing at the #4 and #5 this year - two aggressive kids who will only improve. Junior Taylor Sowah and transfer Andrew Joseph show promise as well.

Hopefully they can put the pieces together for this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2012, 12:50:53 PM
  Hawkbill...let me be the first to welcome you to SUNYAC Boards. Good to have some Central NY flavor added. We already had  the North Country covered (Magicman and thebear), Syracuse area covered (JDEX and Dcahill) and Western NY covered ( :D ).

  I witnessed the Hawks first hand Saturday and you are right on. McCrea has the potential to make All Sunyac if he plays like he did during his recent Western Ny trip (2 games total - 39 pts and 27 boards). Shereef Taylor looks better than he did 2 years ago when he made All Sunyac. He had a "come thru the middle tomahawk dunk in traffic" that people are still talking about today! And Matt Devine (3rd in Yac scoring and 7th in rebounding) is .....Matt Devine!! ('Nuff said ;) )

   Tough loss last night to Eastern Conn (sweet 16 last I believe). We play them in Miami in December.
Keep posting. It's obvious you know your stuff.

Word of caution....Watch out for that "magic" guy from Plattsburgh! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 05, 2012, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: hawkball on December 05, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
New poster on the 'YAC board - NP alum. Great to see all the commentary on the 'YAC boards - just thought you needed someone who isn't a Card or a Bengal posting on here.  :)

Just wanted to defend my Hawks who I think are underrated this season - yeah - they have some issues to work out - but Coach Rejniak has recruited a monster freshman class that just hasn't come into its own yet (see McCrae - moments of brilliance and then there was last night where he looked like a freshman). Rejniak had a team of 9 last year - after he lost a handful of players to disciplinary and academic issues. He's had some rebuilding to do - and he's getting the job done. Clearly the team has a lot of talent in Devine, Taylor and an underrated Jenkins - but they need to get better at playing as a unit on offense. Need to get the ball to Devine more often - the guy only had four shots last night in the 1st half. When these guys are on - they're great - they outscored Buff in the 2nd half last Saturday. They wouldn't quit last night. Just can't capitalize. Last year - those games are lost by 15+ even with Wichard.

Rejniak has scheduled a tough non-conference schedule - he's not padding his schedule - and it's the only way Hawks will improve to be able to compete with the big guys in the YAC.

Other key players to watch are freshman Roach and Pearlman who have been subbing at the #4 and #5 this year - two aggressive kids who will only improve. Junior Taylor Sowah and transfer Andrew Joseph show promise as well.

Hopefully they can put the pieces together for this weekend.

Glad to see someone from my alma mater post here.  Can't say I know much about the program, though I knew some of the women's players a few years ago.  Keep us posted. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on December 05, 2012, 01:05:10 PM
Bengalsrule - thanks - looking forward to some healthy debate - and Buff was lights out in the first 5 minutes on Saturday - Rod Epps and Jake Simmons together are the real deal. (Video crashed after 1st half). Looking forward to the rematch in February!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2012, 03:04:54 PM
   Thanks Hawk! I keep hearing how our video sucks (see magicman). I'm gonna let the A.D. know about the complaints that have been logged here. He actually checks out D3Hoops on occassion himself! jake and Rod do make a nice comboe. Reminds some folks of Jake Simmons and Chris Cartwright (both 1st team all-Sunyac 2010-11) from 2 years ago (Sweet 16 for the BENGALS). Rod is more of a shooter than Chris. Chris could shoot but could dish and kick with the best of them!

   Good luck this weekend vs. Brockport and Geneseo!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2012, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: hawkball on December 05, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
New poster on the 'YAC board - NP alum. Great to see all the commentary on the 'YAC boards - just thought you needed someone who isn't a Card or a Bengal posting on here.  :)

Just wanted to defend my Hawks who I think are underrated this season - yeah - they have some issues to work out - but Coach Rejniak has recruited a monster freshman class that just hasn't come into its own yet (see McCrae - moments of brilliance and then there was last night where he looked like a freshman). Rejniak had a team of 9 last year - after he lost a handful of players to disciplinary and academic issues. He's had some rebuilding to do - and he's getting the job done. Clearly the team has a lot of talent in Devine, Taylor and an underrated Jenkins - but they need to get better at playing as a unit on offense. Need to get the ball to Devine more often - the guy only had four shots last night in the 1st half. When these guys are on - they're great - they outscored Buff in the 2nd half last Saturday. They wouldn't quit last night. Just can't capitalize. Last year - those games are lost by 15+ even with Wichard.

Rejniak has scheduled a tough non-conference schedule - he's not padding his schedule - and it's the only way Hawks will improve to be able to compete with the big guys in the YAC.

Other key players to watch are freshman Roach and Pearlman who have been subbing at the #4 and #5 this year - two aggressive kids who will only improve. Junior Taylor Sowah and transfer Andrew Joseph show promise as well.

Hopefully they can put the pieces together for this weekend.

Fresh Blood!! I love it. 8-)  Welcome to the board hawkball.  Pay no attention to that Bengalsrule guy behind the curtain. ;) Hope you continue to be a regular contributor. If you have any questions concerning how the site operates and some of the features that can be utilized you can always contact one of the regulars using the Personal Messaging feature that D3hoops has in place. That way your questions aren't seen by the entire community. Just click on the person's name and hit send PM and you're in business. And if you're in town to see a game or whatever be sure and let us know. Let me be the 2nd person to give you a Plus K.

Tough loss last night, nearly came all the way back from the14 point deficit. Still early but the Hawks have a huge weekend coming up with Port and Geneseo coming to town. Good luck.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2012, 12:50:53 PM
  Hawkbill...let me be the first to welcome you to SUNYAC Boards. Good to have some Central NY flavor added. We already had  the North Country covered (Magicman and thebear), Syracuse area covered (JDEX and Dcahill) and Western NY covered ( :D ).

I need to give you a geography lesson. New Platz is closer to New York City than it is to Central New York. ??? Cortland and Oswego, now that's Central New York!! ;D   New Paltz...Southeastern New York.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2012, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2012, 12:50:53 PM
  Hawkbill...let me be the first to welcome you to SUNYAC Boards. Good to have some Central NY flavor added. We already had  the North Country covered (Magicman and thebear), Syracuse area covered (JDEX and Dcahill) and Western NY covered ( :D ).

I need to give you a geography lesson. New Platz is closer to New York City than it is to Central New York. ??? Cortland and Oswego, now that's Central New York!! ;D   New Paltz...Southeastern New York.

Love you too magicman!!!! :D Hawk....now you see why I said to watch out for that "Magic" guy! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 06, 2012, 04:57:09 PM
Cortland head coach Tom Spanbauer is a guest on Hoopsville tonight. The show airs from 7-9 p.m. and is also available on-demand afterwards.

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2012, 09:15:42 PM
Quote from: franelia on December 06, 2012, 04:57:09 PM
Cortland head coach Tom Spanbauer is a guest on Hoopsville tonight. The show airs from 7-9 p.m. and is also available on-demand afterwards.

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville

Thanks for the heads up on the interview Fran. Coach Spanbauer did a fine job plugging our conference. 1 more win for number 300 for the coach.  I'm fairly confident he'll collect it tomorrow night against SUNYIT, with an 88-62 victory. Congratulations are in order.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2012, 05:18:44 AM
Nine teams in action tonight in the SUNYAC. All games tip off at 8:00 PM.  Only Oswego State has the night off.

Cortland State at SUNYIT

Red Dragons and Wildcats have split their last 6 meetings but Cortland won by 30 last year. Teams headed in different directions as SUNYIT is winless and Corts enter at 5-1. Point spread has the Red Dragons favored by 19.5 but I don't think this one will be that close. Cortland players looking to present Coach Spanbauer with career win #300 and may top the century mark in doing so. I think the coach will go to his bench early and often though, and the final will be 88-62 Cortland.

Brockport State at New Paltz State

This game could turn out to be a difference maker in terms of who makes the conference tournament. With only 6 spots available this year I think one of these teams will be on the outside looking in. Both squads looking to even their record tonight and both coming off tough losses last time out. Golden Eagles dropped an 81-80 decision to Oswego and the Hawks comeback against Eastern Connecticut fell just short at 78-74. Brockport has won 4 straight in this series and 8 of the last 9. Posted line has the Eagles as a 2.5 point favorite and this game should be much closer than the 2 wins Brockport earned last year over the Hawks. Tough to win on the road in the YAC but Port has felt comfortable at Hawk Center. I think they edge Hawks here 78-75.

Geneseo State at Oneonta State

Geneseo with a big win against Cortland on Tuesday night to open their conference play. Should be able to withstand these other Red Dragons. Blue Knights are favored by 6.5 points. Oneonta in for another rough year, but has had some respectable outings despite their 1-5 record. I see Geneseo  winning this one 74-62.

Buffalo State at Potsdam State

Bengals bring their high powered offense into the North Country this weekend and look to solidify their 1st place conference position. Jake Simmons and Rod Epps have been on fire and I don't think the Bears will be able to cool them off. Bengals are averaging almost 90 ppg and this duo accounts for almost 50% of their scoring. Stop them and you've got a chance. Easier said than done. Potsdam has been wildly inconsistant in their 4 losses playing one good half of basketball only to get blown out by double digits in the other half. They need a complete game to have any hope of upsetting the Bengals. Spread has Buff State favored by 7.5 points. If Bear's Curtis Pierce, Mark Lake and Rob Duquette all show up tonight this game could be that close, but I think the Bengals will win by double digits...92-80.

Fredonia State at Plattsburgh State

Blue Devils come into tonight's game with a 4-3 record and tied with Plattsburgh at 1-1 in conference play. Their 4 wins are deceiving, as they came  against teams with a combined 1-22 record, with the lone win belonging to Oneonta. Plattsburgh enters tonights contest fresh off a road win at Little East power Keene State on Tuesday night. The Cardinals will not be taking the Blue Devils lightly however, as they swept the young Cardinals last season. Plattsburgh leads this series 7-5 over the past 6 years. The point spread has the Cards favored by 10.5 points. Cards giving up 67 ppg but against much tougher competition than Fredonia has faced. I think it's payback time for Plattsburgh and they win this one 77-63.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 07, 2012, 09:18:05 AM
Good morning everyone--Scooterman is back!! Magic- The Eagles have had their way with the Hawks for awhile and they certainly feel comfortable in the Hawks palace. I predict my Beloved Eagles coming away with a hug victory. Don't sell them short people--Coach Dunne will have them rock'n and rollin'--GO EAGLES-Make me proud! By the way, it's a beautiful 81 degrees in Tampa today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 08:56:56 PM

Cortland 37, SUNYIT 28 at the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:02:21 PM

And at the half ....

Potsdam 45, Buffalo St. 32

New Paltz 45, Brockport 37

Geneseo 31, Oneonta 26

Plattsburgh 42, Fredonia 25
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:29:13 PM

Cortland 68, SUNYIT 52 with 4' left

Potsdam 63, Buffalo St. 57 with 13' to go

Plattsburgh 61, Fredonia 45 at the 8' mark

New Paltz 65, Brockport 57 with 7' to go

Geneseo 55, Oneonta 49 with 4:30 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:36:12 PM

Buffalo State takes its first lead on layup and FT by R. Carney at 7:16 ........69-66 Bengals. Potsdam held 17 pt lead with 2:01 left in the first half. Till BS taking the edge, BS 10x18 from outside the arc, Bears 9x13
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:42:04 PM

Potsdam 71, Buffalo St. 70 at 4:53

Geneseo 68, Oneonta 58 seconds to go

Plattsburgh 69, Fredonia 55 at 2' warning

New Paltz 79, Brockport 68 with 2:12 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:49:31 PM

Buffalo St. 79, Potsdam 77 at 1:30  .....J. Lambert layup brings Bears within deuce

Plattsburgh 72, Fredonia 58, final

New Paltz 88, Brockport 70, final

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:51:29 PM

Potsdam's J. Lambert strikes again to tie at 79 at 0:53 ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:53:45 PM

Buff St's A. Majak lands a jumper with 81-79 lead with 0:26 to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 09:58:24 PM

J. Simmons FTs stretches BS lead to four .....Potsdam's R. Duquette layup brings Bears within 83-81 at 0:15 at TO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:00:01 PM

C. Pierce nails two FTs at 0:10 for 84-83 Potsdam lead over BS .......TO ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:03:27 PM

Buffalo St. prevails on A. Majak layup at 0:03 for 85-84 victory at Potsdam .....

R. Epps 22 pts, J. Simmons 20 for Bengals. C. Pierce 26 pts for Bears. BS 10x18 3, Pdam 10x20 ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:06:20 PM

Cortland 73, SUNYIT 60, final

Geneseo 70, Oneonta 63, final

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2012, 10:17:02 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:03:27 PM

Buffalo St. prevails on A. Majak layup at 0:03 for 85-84 victory at Potsdam .....

R. Epps 22 pts, J. Simmons 20 for Bengals. C. Pierce 26 pts for Bears. BS 10x18 3, Pdam 10x20 ...
One Helluva game at Potsdam!
Im drained!!!!!!!!!

Congrats to Spanbauer for #300!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:25:22 PM

Cortland goes to 6-1 with wire-to-wire lead in 73-60 spilling of host SUNYIT. RDragons score the game's first seven points. IT within 32-28 before trailing 37-28 through opening 20'. Corts stretch lead to 65-45 at 6:49 on B. Manning 'three.' Uticans nearest approach a dozen points thereafter.

Manning with 18 pts off the pine on 6x11fg, 3x7 3s, 5 rebs. J. Winter 16 pts(6x15fg), 6 assts, 2 stls; J. Smith 12 pts(4x11fg, 4x9 3s). Smith eclipses 1,000 point career barrier. L. Herron 6 rebs. Winless SUNYIT (0-4) gets 16 pts(8x11ft) from T. Richardson. CSt 28x61fg, 11x30 3s, 6x12ft. IT ....with just seven players .....goes 21x27ft, 18x51fg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:28:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2012, 10:17:02 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:03:27 PM

Buffalo St. prevails on A. Majak layup at 0:03 for 85-84 victory at Potsdam .....

R. Epps 22 pts, J. Simmons 20 for Bengals. C. Pierce 26 pts for Bears. BS 10x18 3, Pdam 10x20 ...
One Helluva game at Potsdam!
Im drained!!!!!!!!!

Congrats to Spanbauer for #300!

Don't know about Span's 300th ........... only 288 by my count after tonight .......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 07, 2012, 11:26:50 PM
300 career wins for Span - includes 12 wins at Alfred plus his 288 at Cortland. 300-202 overall; 288-189 at Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2012, 11:38:30 PM
Plattsburgh 72 Fredonia 58

I had the 14 point margin of victory in this one as my score was 77-63.  Pretty sloppy game as the 2 teams combined for 51 turnovers(27 by Fredonia and 24 by Plattsburgh). Blue Devils opened the game with a backward dunk by Tyrone Clark 14 seconds after the tip (Clark would score 8 points in the game and 3 of his baskets were crowd pleasing dunks) and Amir Billups would bury a three on Fredonia's next possession to open up a 5-0 lead. That's the good. The bad? Blue Devils would go scoreless over the next eight + minutes and allow the Cardinals to go on a 23-0 run. Matt Deboy finally got a layup to fall at the 10:09 mark to make it 23-7. The game for all practical purposes was over at that point. Fredonia only got it to single digits on one occasion the rest of the night. Ed Correa followed Deboy's basket with a 3 pointer and the Cards enjoyed their largest lead of the period at 26-7. The Blue Devils mounted a comeback and outscored Plattsburgh 16-5 to pull within 8 points at 31-23 with 4 minutes left to play. Kalik Parker then hit back to back 3's and followed that with an old fashioned 3 point play to boost the lead back to 40-23 with 1:24 to go as the Cards cruised to a halftime advantage of 42-25. Fredonia never got closer than 12 points the rest of the way. Plattsburgh's largest lead of the night at 22 points, came with 10:51 left in the 2nd period, at 59-37. Lots of ill advised passes by both teams, as the Cards were trying to get too fancy and the Blue Devils were trying to play catch up. Cardinals with 11 players getting double digit minutes and 29 points off the bench. Fredonia had 10 players with double digit minutes and 15 bench points.

Plattsburgh placed 4 guys in double figures led by John Perez with 18 points (7x11 fg, 4x6 ft). Perez not only captured scoring honors but got the rebounding award as well as he completed his double-double with 13 boards, along with 3 blocked shots in 31'. Kalik Parker had 12 points (4X8 fg, 3X7 3's 1X1 ft) in 17' off the bench. Shamoy McIntosh, who opened the Cards scoring with a 3 pointer, hit his first 3 attempts from long distance leading Plattsburgh to a 14-5 early edge. He finished with 11 points (4x8 fg, 3x5 3's) in 16'. Shavar Fields also came off the bench and added 10 points (3x4 fg, 4x6 ft) in 14'. Point guard Chris Manning once again filled up the stat sheet as he scored 4 points (0x3 fg, 0x1 3's, 4x7 ft), had 8 assists, grabbed 6 rebounds and 6 steals in 23 minutes. Cards had 10 players hit the scoring column. Plattsburgh shot 23x53 fg (43.4%), 9x23 3's (39.1%) and 17x24 ft (70.8%). They enjoyed a big edge off the glass 43-28.

Fredonia placed 2 players in double figures with Joe Monahan leading the way with 16 pts (5x15 fg, 3x6 3's, 3x3 ft) and 6 rebounds. Dalton Kashmer added 11 points (4x6 fg, 2x3 3's, 1x2 ft). Blue Devils shot 21x53 fg (39.6%), 8x20 3's (40%) and 8x15 ft (53.3%).

Plattsburgh improves to 6-2 (2-1) and will face off against Buffalo State tomorrow afternoon at 4:00 PM.

Fredonia falls to 4-4 (1-2) and makes the short hop to Potsdam to face the Bears at 4:00 PM as well.   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 07, 2012, 11:43:05 PM
Quote from: franelia on December 07, 2012, 11:26:50 PM
300 career wins for Span - includes 12 wins at Alfred plus his 288 at Cortland. 300-202 overall; 288-189 at Cortland.

Ahhhhh, yes, how soon we forget. With age, the mind does goeth. Thank goodness we have people like Fran looking after us!

And congrats, Span. Indeed, has been SOME ride
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on December 07, 2012, 11:56:09 PM
Heck of a win for the Hawks tonight - I was really hoping they'd do it - and do it they did. Devine had 27pts., Taylor - 20 and Joseph logged his first double-double of the season with 12 and 10. Brockport was tough the whole way - very physical and athletic. Usually a team that can shoot the 3 - but tonight - we were able to hold them to 25% - and going into tonight's game - they were at the top.

Big win for the program - but can't celebrate too much - facing a tough Geneseo team tomorrow - but like the matchups. Now you know how we feel in NP Bengalsrule - all these close games are too stressful!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2012, 08:36:38 AM
Quote from: jdex on December 07, 2012, 10:00:01 PM

C. Pierce nails two FTs at 0:10 for 84-83 Potsdam lead over BS .......TO ...

Actually he was fouled on a trey and made all three.

Tough loss to a very talented team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2012, 03:17:22 PM
Nine teams in 5 games today all starting at 4:00 PM  Only Cortland is idle.

Not much time here as the Buffalo State Coaches have been running me ragged all day. So I'll have to do some quick picks withou the ususal commentary.

Oswego State at Ithaca

Lakers had a tough time last year in Oswego aagainst the Bombers where they won 74-71. Another tight one today. Ithaca favored by 2 but I'm going with Oswego 72-67.

Geneseo at New Paltz

Blue Knights won both meetings last year. They got everybody back. I think they win this one despite the Hawks listed as a 1 point favorite. Geneseo 80 New Paltz 76.

Brockport at Oneonta

Golden Eagles smarting from their loss yesterday will not go home 0-2 for the trip. Oneonta stuck on 63 points Odds favor Brockport by 13. I think they win it 71-65.

Fredonia at Potsdam

Bears need to forget about tough loss to Buff State and get the win here. Blue Devils trying to salvage the weekend as well. Point spread favors the Bears by 4. I'll go along with that. Bears wins 72-68.

Buffalo State at Plattsburgh

Bengals beat the Cardinals by double digits twice last year so the Cards are looking for a little payback. Line has the Bengals favored by 1 point. I'm hoping the Bears tired out the boys from Buffalo last night and I know the Bengals are short a starter today since I just brought him back from the emergency room. (Fractured foot) They still have their "dynamic duo" though and if we can stop their guards we're in trouble. We won't stop them, but I think we can slow them down a bit. Plattsburgh wins this one 84-81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 08, 2012, 05:54:04 PM
Finals .....

Plattsburgh 93, Buffalo St. 85

Oswego 64, Ithaca 58

Brockport 83, Oneonta 70

Potsdam 78, Fredonia 54

Geneseo 84. New Paltz 63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2012, 06:02:15 PM
Magic & Bengals.

1.  I do exist, but with a wife who can't drive and three weeks out from MAJOR major surgery, sometimes, ya gotta take one for the home team.  Trust me, Peru Tommy aka PA Bear is not the Bear.

2.  Magic, you almost got the Potsdam score right, but these were some very nasty Bears tonight, holding Devils to 54.

Bengals benefited from three terrible calls on Mark Lake Jr, last night, as he hung 20 tonight, and had Curtis Pierce support with 18.

'yac could be a real interesting league this year, wish Bears didn't have their first three games against the preseaon chalk.

Have to go cook dinner, over & out.

da BEARS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2012, 07:01:57 PM
Congrats to magicman and the Cards on a great win today. I witneesed a team today that looked hungrier than any team that ive seen buffalo  state play. This season yac competition should be some of the finest ever.

I also get it from reliable sources that magic helped a Bengal coach and player get to...and from the plattsburgh hospital today. If thats not north country hospitality at its finest then i dont know what is.

Also kudos to the Potsdam staff who took a bengal coach and player to the Potsdam hospital last night. In addition i must admit that whoever does the Potsdam music has the best collection going in the Yac. From Michael Jackson to Jayzee....that Potsdam announcer had it going on last night!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2012, 07:23:17 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 08, 2012, 05:54:04 PM
Finals .....

Plattsburgh 93, Buffalo St. 85

Oswego 64, Ithaca 58

Brockport 83, Oneonta 70

Potsdam 78, Fredonia 54

Geneseo 84. New Paltz 63

jdex,
Thanks for keeping score while I attended the Cards-Bengals game.

Went 5-0 this afternoon giving me a 9-1 weekend log with my forecasts, missing only on the Brockport-New Paltz game yesterday. Geneseo and Plattsburgh the big winners this weekend both going 2-0. Blue Knights take over sole possession of 1st place with a 3-0 record.
Cardinals and Bengals are tied for 2nd, at 3-1, while Cortland and Oswego tied for 4th at 2-1. New Paltz in the final playoff spot at 2-2. It's gonna be a dogfight all season long.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2012, 07:01:57 PM
Congrats to magicman and the Cards on a great win today. I witneesed a team today that looked hungrier than any team that ive seen buffalo  state play. This season yac competition should be some of the finest ever.

I also get it from reliable sources that magic helped a Bengal coach and player get to...and from the plattsburgh hospital today. If thats not north country hospitality at its finest then i dont know what is.

Also kudos to the Potsdam staff who took a bengal coach and player to the Potsdam hospital last night. In addition i must admit that whoever does the Potsdam music has the best collection going in the Yac. From Michael Jackson to Jayzee....that Potsdam announcer had it going on last night!!!!

Bengalsrule=one classy guy. 8-)  I also found your "note" stuck under my visor. Thank you... but you shouldn't have. The Buff State presents that you brought were more than enough. I'll wear them with pride.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 08, 2012, 07:40:35 PM
The Potsdam PA guy be Big Tommy, our director of Admissions at SUNY Potsdam, who is very good at everything he does, and is also very solicitous of our players for his playlist which is why the music at the foremost music school in SUNY is nothing but amazing.

Proud of my Bears this afternoon, bouncing back from a tough loss to hang a real attention-getter on the scoreboard, however I must admit I would have been happier if magic had gone 8-2 instead of 9-1 on the weekend.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 08, 2012, 07:49:32 PM
Enjoyed the live feed of the Potsdam game today.  Hopefully this is the future since Potsdam is 5 and half hours away.  Looking forward to seeing them play Manahattanville after the new year.  Go Bears
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on December 08, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Not much to say tonight. Not sure who that team was that showed up today. Ouch - Geneseo did everything right - strong fundamentals the whole game. NP lacked energy the whole first half - 18 pts. is less than what Devine alone is averaging per game. Outscored 45-44 in the 2nd half - but again - too little, too late.

We'll get back to it Tuesday against Hamilton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2012, 11:59:55 PM
Hawk. 1-1 on the road aint bad. You've had at least 4 road games. At least  3 of those teams made the playoffs last year (can't remember if fredonia did :-[ ).

Thebear....tell Tommy that the Bengal faithful really enjoyed his beats....and his colorful announcing. Can't think of announcer in Yac that does what he does for the home crowd.

Magicman.....the coach and player, Maurice Miles, asked me to be sure to thank you for all your help today and yesterday (taking a coach to Target). You don't see that kind of hospitality from an avid supporter of ones opponent. Coach was truely touched. I assured him that you would get the message!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2012, 12:52:54 AM
Plattsburgh State 93 Buffalo State 85

Good game today between the Bengals and the Cards at Memorial Hall. Buff State's Rod Epps wasted no time putting the Bengals on the scoreboard as he scored on their first possession. It would prove to be the only time that the Bengals had the lead. A deuce by Ezra Hodgson and a triple by Jordan Moody followed by another Epps layup made it 5-4 and that was as close as Buff State would find themselves for the rest of the game. The Cards reeled off 9 unanswered points forcing a Bengal time out. Cards got a turnover and Moody scored again before the Bengals finally got a bucket from Ryan Carney to stop the bleeding. Down 20-6 with 14:46 left, Buffalo State finally gets it going and outscores the Cards 16-6 over the next 5 minutes  to make it 26-22. Plattsburgh's bench players Gary Tibbs and Kalik Parker quickly score 10 points to build the lead back to 13 at 36-23. The Bengals fight back once again and get it to 38-34 fueled by 7 points from Anyar Majak. This smooth, big sophomore has shown considerable improvement from last year as he is a force to be reckoned with around the basket. Many of his points came off offensive rebounds and putbacks. Seeking to slow Majak down, Coach Curle puts his biggest body, Reggie Williams into the game, but after Card's Chris Manning makes 1 of 2 free throws the big man goes offensive with 6 straight Cardinal points to boost the lead back to 11 at 45-34 with 2 minutes left. Teams trade points through the end of the half and the Cards go into the locker room up 50-39.

Usually Buff State comes out of the break with a rush to reverse any deficit but today it was the Cardinals who opened the 2nd half with another 13-5 spurt to make it 65-44 with 4 minutes gone by. The closest the Bengals would get after that was 7 points on several occasions. The Cardinals answered every attempt that the Bengals made to claw their way back into this contest. Both benches would prove pivotal in the game as the Cardinals recieved a whopping 46 points from their reserves. Bengals, who lost starter, Maurice Miles, to injury on Friday night at Potsdam, would seem likely to start Anyar Majak, who had 3 starts earlier in the season, but instead went with 1st time starter Ryan Carney. Bringing Majak in off the bench seemed to work as he had a game high 27 points to give the Bengal reserves a total of 38 points. Majak has now scored double digits in 4 straight games, all of them off the bench. In 3 starts earlier he only reached double figs in 1 game. Plattsburgh spent considerable effort covering Jake Simmons who was such a nemesis to them last year. They held Simmons to just 7 points in the game and he really didn't have many open looks.

Cardinals had 4 players in double figs led by Jordan Moody's careeer high 21 points (7x11 fg, 3x6 3's, 4x6 ft, in 30'). Ezra Hodgson had 13 points (6x13 fg, 1x5 3's, in  29') while Shamoy McIntosh and Kalik Parker added 10 each. McIntosh (3x9 fg, 1x4 3's, 3x3 ft) also had 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a block in 19 minutes. Parker was 3x6 fg, 2x3 3's, and 2x2 ft, in 20 minutes. He also was the Cardinals co-leader with 8 rebounds (along with John Perez) and added 2 blocked shots. Floor leader Chris Manning didn't attempt a single shot other than his 1 of 2 from the line but had a game high 11 assists with some nifty passes, grabbed 5 rebounds and had 3 steals in 27 minutes. Mike Mitchell who ran the point when Manning wasn't on the floor totaled 8 points (1x2 fg, 6x8 ft, in 13') and added 4 assists. Gary Tibbs didn't get a lot of court time but was highly efficient getting 7 points (2x3 fg, 3x4 ft in 10') and 7 rebounds with 2 assists. Reggie Williams got 6 points, 2 boards and a block in 6 minutes.

Cards shot a blistering 59.4% from the field in the first half going 19x32. They ended up 32x66 (48.5%), 8x20 from long distance (40%) and 21x29 from the line (72.4%). Rebounds and turnovers were fairly close as the Cards had 43 boards to 41 for the Bengals. Each team committed 19 turnovers. Plattsburgh ended up with 12 blocked shots led by 3 each by Moody and Perez. the Bengals had 6 blocks led by Majak's 3.

Buffalo State got the game high 27 points from Majak (11x17fg, 5x7 ft in 30') with a game high 9 rebounds as well. Rod Epps was close behind with 26 markers (11x18 fg, 4x8 3's, in 32'). Brad Doyley with 9 points, Jake Simmons with 7 pts and Ant Hamer with 7 pts and 7 assists. Ryan Carney had 5 points and tied Majak with 9  rebounds.

Bengals shot 33x74 from the field (44.6%), but only 6x22 from 3 point land (27.3%) and 13x19 from the stripe (68.4%)
Both of these teams are playoff bound, barring a rash of injuries, it's just a question of where they will be seeded. I'm sure the trip to Buffalo and playing in the big house there, will be as tough on the Cards, as the trip to the North Country was for the Bengals this weekend.

Bengals will be a force to reckon with for the next few years with Epps and Majak who will only get better. Both of these guys have All Conference in their future if not this year (and the way Epps is scoring, presently leading the conference, he'll be a first teamer) Majak had a breakout game today that can only build his confidence and perhaps get him more looks from the field. He was averaging 60% from the field going into today's game and shot 64% today. He's only had 46 fg attempts this year and has made 28 of them. Bengals only lose 3 players off this years' team and they could get some key players back next year that aren't on the team right now. With the Cardinals returning their entire roster next year, these two teams will be involved in some memorable battles I'm sure. And I'm looking forward to them. 8-)

Plattsburgh is now 7-2 on the season and moves into a 2nd place tie with the Bengals at 3-1 in conference play. Cardinals are now off for the holiday break until they travel to Lancaster, Pennslyvania to match up with the Diplomats from Franklin & Marshall in their Sponagle New Year Tournament on January 2nd. The Diplomats are currently ranked #8 in D3hoops Top 25 poll and are undefeated at 7-0. Depending on the results of the games on that day, the Cardinals will face either Salisbury University, currently 8-1, from the Capital Athletic Conference or Eastern Connecticut, with a record of 6-2 and fresh off a victory over #14 Rhode Island College this afternoon. Eastern Connecticut is in the Little East Conference. Two tough games coming back from a 24 day layoff. Two wins there, plus a strong conference finish could give the Cardinals a good look at an at large bid come NCAA tourney time as F & M is a regional game for Plattsburgh.

Buffalo State drops to 5-2 overall and 3-1 in the YAC. They will next play a non D3 team from the USCAA, Central Pennslyvania or as their website says, Central Penn College. Not much info on their website. They were 8-2 at the end of November but haven't posted a thing about the 3 games they've played this month. So they could be 11-2 or 8-5 or anything in between. ;D Lots of high scoring games but not sure of their level of play. I'll go out on a limb right now and pick Buff State to win this game. ;)

Bengals will be tested on Dec. 21 and 22nd when they travel to Florida to play in the Adidas Holiday Slam Tournament. They will first take on the above mentioned Eastern Connecticut State Warriors that Plattsburgh may face in January. Coach Curle will want a game tape from that matchup I'm sure. (Are you listening Bengalsrule) On Dec 22nd they will square off against a pretty good Coe College team, that just yesterday, beat favored Carthage College from the CCIW conference 70-63. The CCIW is one of the nation's top ranked conferences, year in and year out. Coe is currently 4-2 having lost to last years NCAA semi-finalist IWU (also from the CCIW) 52-51 earlier.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2012, 04:39:31 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2012, 11:59:55 PM

Magicman.....the coach and player, Maurice Miles, asked me to be sure to thank you for all your help today and yesterday (taking a coach to Target). You don't see that kind of hospitality from an avid supporter of ones opponent. Coach was truely touched. I assured him that you would get the message!!!!! ;)

Tell Coach Ansari that North Country hospitality would have it no other way. I know you would do the same if the situation was reversed. I felt bad for Maurice. To be told Friday night that it was just a bruise and he's thinking... OK I won't miss much time... only to be told the next day by a different doctor that it's a fracture and now he's out for a much longer period, was a bummer. While we were in my van and you weren't there, he remarked that he had just cracked the starting lineup a few games ago and now this. I tried to put a positive spin on it by telling him, it could be worse at least it's not his senior year and he's got several good years left. Please keep me informed about his progress. If he doesn't heal up quickly you might consider a medical redshirt. That happened to Josh Bruno here, a few years ago about 7 games or so into the season. That's why he played for us last year as a grad student.

By the way, that Tuba sale I was working on when you called me from the hospital to come and get you, was finalized later in the day. $9000.00 Tuba, but of course, I gave him a nice discount.

Our visit this year even though it was 2 days instead of one  went by too quickly. Here's hoping the Cardinals somehow manage to get the top seed in the tournament and you'll have to come back. I was disappointed that because of our trips to and from the hospital I didn't get to visit with Jake Simmons very much. I had planned to sit with him a while during the women's game, but by the time I got there only 46 seconds were left in the game. (I just realized I don't even know who won that game. Have to check soon as I post this.) So the remote possibility does exist that you might come North once more this year.

When you come up to Lake Placid this summer for your seminar see if you can arrange an extra day and we'll get in a round of golf or something. Just a thought. Good luck against Coe and Eastern Connecticut.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2012, 04:56:45 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2012, 11:59:55 PM
Hawk. 1-1 on the road aint bad. You've had at least 4 2 road games. At least  3 of those teams made the playoffs last year (can't remember if fredonia did :-[ ).

And just so you don't forget who I am...since when is playing Brockport and Geneseo and going 1-1 in Hawk Center considered road games? ??? ::)

I know, I know, you were :

A. Tired from a long day

B. Still on the bus going back home to Buffalo

C. Having a "senior moment"

D. Distracted by the horseplay of the Bengals team in the middle of your post

E.  All of the above

That 1-1 on the road stuff you were telling Hawkball.... applies to the Bengals not New Paltz!! ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2012, 06:14:34 AM
Quote from: thebear on December 08, 2012, 06:02:15 PM
Magic & Bengals.

1.  I do exist, but with a wife who can't drive and three weeks out from MAJOR major surgery, sometimes, ya gotta take one for the home team.  Trust me, Peru Tommy aka PA Bear is not the Bear.

2.  Magic, you almost got the Potsdam score right, but these were some very nasty Bears tonight, holding Devils to 54.


Bear,

MAJOR major surgery, again? This happened about the same time last year. Is it the wheels again or something different? Get well soon, please.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 09, 2012, 07:33:53 AM
In January 12 I had a medical problem in my leg which kept me off my feet/moving slow for a month.

This was a close one, but a full recovery is expected, just will take a bit of time.

I'm beat as well, doing all the cooking,cleaning, driving, shopping, laundry, helping her students finish the semester, been an interesting last four weeks.

Glad to see that the North Country only gave up one win this weekend, wish it had been zero.

Geneseo looks like a real wild card, already have some L's, but a couple of quality wins as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2012, 12:48:08 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 09, 2012, 04:56:45 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2012, 11:59:55 PM
Hawk. 1-1 on the road aint bad. You've had at least 4 2 road games. At least  3 of those teams made the playoffs last year (can't remember if fredonia did :-[ ).

And just so you don't forget who I am...since when is playing Brockport and Geneseo and going 1-1 in Hawk Center considered road games? ??? ::)

I know, I know, you were :

A. Tired from a long day

B. Still on the bus going back home to Buffalo

C. Having a "senior moment"

D. Distracted by the horseplay of the Bengals team in the middle of your post

E.  All of the above

That 1-1 on the road stuff you were telling Hawkball.... applies to the Bengals not New Paltz!! ;D   

All of the above (except for  "D" and "B" ) :-[ :'( :P :-\ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2012, 05:15:50 PM
SUNYAC vs Liberty League -  6 wins and 2 losses with 2 games left. Oswego vs. RIT and Brockport vs. St. Lawrence. SUNYAC shows clear domination over L.L.

SUNYAC vs Empire 8 (aka "evil empire 8" :D ) - 6 wins for each conference. 1 game left... Cortland vs. Nazareth on Dec 15th. Go Red Dragons!!! ( On Dec 15th ;) )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2012, 07:44:33 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 09, 2012, 07:33:53 AM
In January 12 I had a medical problem in my leg which kept me off my feet/moving slow for a month.

This was a close one, but a full recovery is expected, just will take a bit of time.

I'm beat as well, doing all the cooking,cleaning, driving, shopping, laundry, helping her students finish the semester, been an interesting last four weeks.

Glad to see that the North Country only gave up one win this weekend, wish it had been zero.

Geneseo looks like a real wild card, already have some L's, but a couple of quality wins as well.

So I misunderstood your post about major surgery... it was Kiki that had the surgery this time?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2012, 04:08:44 AM
Geneseo's Gordon Lyons makes the D3hoops Team of the Week. The 6'5" sophomore forward is leading the Blue Knights in scoring for the season with  13.7 ppg. He is shooting a sizzling 59% from the field (46x78) and is also leading the team in rebounds with 7.8 per game. After starting the 1st 5 games of the season in which the Blue Knights went 2-3, he's come off the bench in the last 4 and that switch seems to have worked as Geneseo has won all 4 of those games. He averaging 25.6 minutes per game, 2nd best on the team. Congratulations Gordon. 8-)

Here's the ink from D3hoops:

Gordon Lyons
Lyons has been a super sub coming off the bench for the Blue Knights who went 3-0 in conference play last week. On Wednesday he scored 10 points in 25 minutes as Geneseo State handed Cortland State its first loss of the season, 70-66. Lyons' double-double (19 points, 13 rebounds) pushed Geneseo past Oneonta State 70-63 on Friday night. The next day he added 16 points and seven rebounds in a victory over New Paltz State 

Here's the D3hoops link to the complete TOTW:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2012-13/week4   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2012, 08:23:27 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 is out and Rochester is one of only 2 East region teams to make the cut coming in at #8. The Yellowjackets move up 3 spots in the rankings, with 414 points, an increase of 87 over last week's total. Rochester, still undefeated at 10-0,  and champion of the Wendy's Classic that took place 10 days ago, is finally looking like the team that had such high expectations a year ago, when they entered the Preseason rankings at #7. After that lofty beginning the Yellowjackets quickly tumbled in the polls and dropped out of the Top 25 by week #5. By week #7 they were 9-5 and not even mentioned in the ORV's, finishing the campaign at 17-8 with no postseason play. This year has been a complete reversal. They started out in the preseason poll with a puny 10 points in the ORV category, moved up to #17 after the initial 2 week period, when the week #1 poll came out and have climbled steadily in the 2 weeks since then. They head a contingent of 3 UAA conference teams in the Top 25 as Washington University slips to #10 after falling from the unbeaten ranks, on a last second buzzer beater at Wheaton (Il.) on Saturday.

The other East  Region team in the Top 25 is NYU, the 3rd UAA school in the rankings. The Violets just finished a 2-1 week, coming back with 2 wins after getting upset by (ex-Siena College great), Coach Marc Brown's, New Jersey City Gothic Knights 60-50 on Monday, 12-3. The 2nd of those 2 wins came Sunday against a then 25th ranked and undefeated Stevens Ducks 71-65.  The Violets with that win managed to hang on to the #25 spot, as they fell 4 places and lost 100 points. Stevens fell from #25 into the ORV category where they received 16 points, a decrease of 52 from their previous total. 

Oswego State is the only other East Region team that gets a mention (barely...if you can call 1 point a mention) in the ORV category. Last week the Lakers had 6 points, went 2-0 for the week and dropped down to the single point this week.

With the SUNYAC teams beating up on each other, unless one of them manages to pull an Oswego, and put together a nice winning streak, I don't see our chances of getting much love this year in the polls. Someone asked me at the Buffalo State game on Saturday if the Cardinals would get some votes this week after hanging with Middlebury two weeks ago, going 3-0 this week, beating Keene State on the road and the Bengals in the Burgh. I said at the time, not even a sniff and that's as it should be. No YAC team has a strong enough record at the present time to merit much consideration.  Oswego and Cortland are the only YAC teams with a single loss, both with 6-1 records, but neither team has much in the way of signature wins. Cortland has only beaten 1 team with a winning record (Plattsburgh) and 2 of their wins have come against winless teams (Elmira and SUNYIT). Oswego is more of the same. They have yet to defeat a team with a winning record and lost at home to the only team they played that did have a winning record. (Plattsburgh). Lakers really need to toughen up their out of conference schedule. Up next for the Lakers, the always tough (heavy sarcasm here) Cazenovia Wildcats, perennial bottom feeders in one of the weakest D3 conferences in the country. Lakers will have scheduled this team for the 6th time in the past 7 years. Wildcats never closer than 25 and usually lose by 30 to 50 points. Hard to get ranked with the likes of those wins on your resume. Even the last 2 OOC opponents on the Lakers' schedule this year are having down years (RIT and SLU), and that's not something you can control, but when it's all said and done Lakers might have the weakest OOC slate of any YAC team. And ultmately come tournament time and for at large bid consideration that doesn't help them or other conference hopefuls.

We need to have something happen over the hoildays. Cortland, Buffalo State, and Plattsburgh all involved in out of town tournaments. Cortland in Daytona Florida at the end of December will face a so-so Ursinus team and then non D3 Embry-Riddle. Winning 2 will help but won't give them any national recognition. But you gotta start somewhere.

Bengals also in Florida over the holidays and take on a decent 6-2 Eastern Connecticut team that just knocked off then #14 Rhode Island College. Bengals will then face a solid Coe College team that took last year's National Semi Finalist and currently ranked #18 Illinois Wesleyan right down to the wire before losing 52-51. A couple of wins there could be the start of something noticeable for Buff State as well.

Plattsburgh State probably has the best chance of capturing attention with a couple of holiday wins but it's a tall order for the Cards. First up will be last year's Elite 8 and currently ranked #7 Franklin & Marshall College. The Diplomats are led by preseason All American 6'7" sr. Hayk Gyokchyan (and that's not a misprint) who is averaging a double-double of 18.7 ppg and 10.1 rpg. Beating F & M on their court won't be easy and they obviously think we're the weakest of the 4 team field or they wouldn't be playing us in the first game. F & M is currently undefeated with a 7-0 record. Depending on the outcome against the Diplomats we will meet the winner of Salisbury-Eastern Connecticut. The Warriors could end up playing 3 SUNYAC schools in less than a month. Salisbury has an 8-1 record losing only to 20th ranked Christopher Newport and will find out a lot more about their team in the next 10 days. They start with a visit to  #1 Virginia Wesleyan on 12-17, then travel to Va Wesleyan's fellow ODAC conference member Randolph-Macon on 12-19 and finish with a trip to Division I William and Mary on 12-21. Not sure but I think that may be the toughest 3 game stretch for any D3 school in the country this year. ???  No matter who we play in the 2nd game, if, and that's a BIG if, we manage to beat the Diplomats and win game 2 against whoever, the Cards will get some love. Enough to crack the Top 25...probably not but we will get some support in the ORV category, probably 20-30 points. Enough to build on if we get streaky. Personally I don't see this happening but it's a possibility and remains one of our few chances to get a SUNYAC team into the rankings, I believe.

Oswego State will probably win their next 5 games and sit at 11-1 after their 1-11 game against Fredonia. They meet Buffalo State the next day on Sat 1-12. If they win that game to get to 12-1 at the week's end, they may crack the rankings depending on what the teams in the Top 25 end up doing. But remember a 12-1 Oswego log will still, at most, only have a win over 3 teams with a winning record.  A loss to the Bengals will surely put a damper on that.                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2012, 11:27:05 PM
A rather light schedule tommorrow in the 'Yac. Oswego is at Cazenovia and The BENGALS are at home vs. Div 2 Central Penn (8-4). This Central Penn team is fast and athletic. Could cause some troubles for my beloved BENGALS before they depart to South Beach.

Somehow Jan 11th/12th ( next SUNYAC contests) seem real far away!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2012, 11:13:39 PM
Buffalo State 101 Central Penn 98

Bengals tried hard to give this one away but in the end there was just too much Jake Simmons for Central Penn to contend with.  Simmons scored the final 4 points of the game to turn a 98-97 Buff State deficit into the final 3 point win. Simmons ended up with a season high (and maybe a career high) 43 points. He also became Buffalo State's all time leading scorer as he broke NBA great Randy Smith's 41 year old record with his total of 1722 points. Smith held the old record with 1712 points. Congratulations to Jake on a job well done over his career. Jake needs 278 points to reach the magical 2000 point level. With at least 16 games, a good chance for 17 games and possibly 18 or more games left in his career he can certainly attain that mark if he can remain injury free. Good luck in that quest.

Bengals grabbed an early 6 point lead but the Knights finally caught them with 16 minutes to go. Bengals went back in front by 6 with 12 minutes to play and the Knights not only came back and tied it up with 9:15 to play but after several minutes of trading buckets the Knights forged in front by 6 points on several occasions and went into the locker room up 51-48 at the half.
After 3 lead changes and several ties to cover the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half, the Bengals got 11 points from Simmons over the next 4 minutes to fuel a 19-5 run and opened up the first double digit lead of the game at 79-67 with 11:11 left to play. The Bengals reached their largest lead of the night at 83-69 with 10 minutes left, but then, lacking the killer instinct of past Buffalo State teams they let the Knights come all the way back and take a 98-95 lead with 1:30 left to play. Turning point of the game came with 45 seconds left when Central Penn was called for an intentional foul. Rod Epps hit two free throws to cut the deficit to 1 and with the Bengals retaining possession, Simmons scored on a layup to give the Bengals the lead with 37 seconds to play. Simmons got a block and a rebound at the other end, was fouled and made them both, to up the Bengals lead to 3 and the final margin. Too close for comfort here, if you ask me. Bengals should have won this game easily by 15 points.

Simmons scored his 43 points by shooting 15x23 from the field, 6x11 from beyond the arc and a perfect 7x7 from the line. He added 5 rebounds, 3 steals, and a block in 31 minutes.. His backcourt mate, Epps, also had a big night as he tallied 28 points, (10x23 fg, 3x11 3's 5x6 ft), with 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and a block in 39'. The  dynamic duo scored 71 of the team's 101 points. Anyar Majak just missed a double-double with 10 points and 9 rebounds. Ant Hamer filled up the stat sheet with 7 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds, and 3 steals. Ryan Carney led the team with 11 rebounds.  Bengals shot 37x87 (42.5%) from the field, 10x30 (33.3%) from downtown and 17x24 (70.8%) from the line.  Both teams had 51 rebounds. The Bengals had 16 turnovers and 7 blocked shots (4 by Leon Moise in 9 minutes), while the Knights had 21 turnovers and 3 blocked shots.
Knights were led by Devon Dorsey with 20 points. Five other players reached double figures led by Tony Clagett with 13, Wes Kirkland with12, Connor Arnold with 11, and 10 each for Leonard Chester and Kevin Davis. Kirkland was the game's leading rebounder and had the only double-double as he had 14 boards to go with his 12 points.   
I think these teams thought there was a 24 second clock tonight.  161 field goal attempts and 50,  3 point attempts. Defense was hard to find. Knights shot 34x74 (45.9%) from the field and 7x20 from beyond the arc (35%).  They were 23x31 (74.2%) from the line. 

Bengals improve to 6-2 and will face Eastern Connecticut in Miami Florida on December 21st. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 15, 2012, 01:57:22 AM
199 points combined tonite. More than all but 2 NBA games last night!  School is out but Jake Simmons taught just as well. Scored the first 15 points of the game for the Bengals while playing within the flow. Cramped up at the 5;27   mark of the 2nd half with the BENGALS up by 9. Silence came over the crowd as he lay on his back at mid court. When the trainer began stretching him it was a sigh of relief although he had to come out of the game.

By the time Jake came back, at the 3:21 mark,  the lead had dissappeared and the game was tied 93-93. The game went back and forth until the last 37 seconds when Jake made a reverse layup to put the BENGALS up by 1. He then blocked a shot by Anthony Claggett, got the rebound ..got fouled and made both free throws. Cenn Penn missed a hail of Mary and that was it. One heck of a game if I must say so myself!! ;)

South Beach is the next destination for the 6-2 BENGALS. Must be nice!!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2012, 04:08:48 AM
Oswego 73 Cazenovia 55

As expected the Lakers didn't have too much trouble with Cazenovia tonight. The Wildcats did manage to hold Hayden Ward to his lowest output of the season at 13 pts (5x10 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x3 ft) but Ward only played about a half a game.Ward's three lowest scoring games have been against the 3 weakest teams on the schedule, due to his limited minutes in those games. He's got a double-double average of 25 and 10 in the other 5 games. Sean Michele led the Lakers with 17 points (6x10fg, 5x9 3's). Twelve Lakers hit the scoring column as the coach went to his bench early and often. Bench players played half the minutes in this game.

Lakers, now 7-1 for the year, are off for the next 3 weeks until they take on St. Lawrence on Jan. 4th in Laker Hall.

Ward was chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the 2nd consecutive week. Here's the write up from the YAC website:

Hayden Ward, Oswego

"Senior forward Hayden Ward averaged 24.5 points and 10.0 rebounds in a pair of Oswego State road wins over Brockport and Ithaca. Ward scored 27 points at Brockport with the biggest three points coming in the final seconds. He completed an old-fashioned three-point play that gave the Lakers a one-point lead. Ward followed that performance with a double-double (22 points and 11 rebounds) against NCAA qualifier Ithaca on Saturday."



Last week Ward had another double-double as he was the SUNYAC and ECAC Player of the Week. He was the first YAC player to get ECAC honors this year.

Too bad Jake Simmons only has 1 game this week or he might have picked up the SUNYAC and ECAC Player of the Week award after his big game Friday night. He still could get it with the light schedules out there. Breaking a record held by NBA great Randy Smith, one of the best D3 players in history, should be good for something, especially when you score a career high 43 points to do so.   

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2012, 04:13:59 AM
Champ,
Check your PM's.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 15, 2012, 02:36:27 PM
Cortland 78, Nazareth 59 .........

Holding their widest edge of the period, RDragons up 34-26 at the break. Naz within three on a couple of occasions thereafter, the last at 47-44 at 13:24. Flyers then scoreless till 7:43 mark and in 64-47 hole. B. Manning trey and J. Winter deuce begins CSt pullaway. Gap grows to as much as 23 points. Rarely seen M. Brown from Fairport delights his guests with final two RDragon points. Visiting Corts light it up with 28x54fg percentage and 10x20 from outside the arc. Also with 36-29 board advantage. Naz just 22x57fg, 5x26 3s.

K. McMahon continues his comeback campaign with 17 pts(6x9fg), 8 rebs. B. Manning has 11 first half pts and winds up with 17(6x9fg, 3x5 3s). H. Hefele 13 pts(5x9fg); J. Smith 10 pts, 4 assts; J. Winter 9 pts(3x4fg, 2x3 3s). Naz with J. Giles 11 pts, M. Mills 11 pts.

CSt. to 7-1 and Daytona Beach post Christmas vs. Ursinus and Embry Riddle. Nazareth 7-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2012, 03:30:28 PM
Nice win by the Red Dragons over Nazareth to avenge a couple of YAC losses at the hands of the Golden Flyers. I liked the Cortland boys in this matchup and wanted to do some forecasting today but this bug has got a pretty good hold of me. Barely crawling out of bed. Can't get any worse, hope to recover in the next few days.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2012, 09:32:20 AM
Loose ends:

Tuesday 12-11
Hamilton defeats New Paltz 82-63 at Hawk Center. Was waiting to hear what Hawkball had to say about this effort.

Disappointing effort by the Hawks at home losing to Hamilton in a game that really wasn't as close as the final score indicated. Hamilton led by as many as 16 in the 1st half and had a 27 point lead midway through the 2nd half. Shareef Taylor didn't start for the Hawks for the first time all year, coming in off the bench 5 minutes into the game. That experiment didn't work. Hawks should have won this game especialy at home. Matt Devine with 15 pts and 7 rebounds led New Paltz. Deveino McRae with 13 pts and 6 rebounds. Kevin Roach with 12 pts and 7 boards.

Hamilton with 4 guys in double figs, led by Matt Hart with 17 and Greg Newton with 16.

Hawks drop to 4-6 and are off until January 4th when they travel to Delaware Valley for their final OOC game. 



Saturday 12-15
Fredonia State 67 Penn State-Behrend 58

The Blue Devils jumped on the Lions right out of the gate and went up 14-0 and 17-2 before Behrend came back to close within 9 at 28-19. Fredonia ended the half with 4 straight points and had a 32-19 edge at the half.

Blue Devils stayed comfortably ahead and reached their largest lead of the game at 54-35 with 10 minutes to go. Lions made a late run to get within 5 before Fredonia hit their free throws down the stretch to put this one in the win column.

Dalton Kashmere with a pretty good shooting night led the Blue Devils with 20 points. He was 6x7 from the field and 8x9 from the line. Amir Billups had 14 points, Joe Monahan had 11 and Tyrone Clark had 10.

Blue Devils even their record at 5-5 and won't be back in action until January 11th when they travel to Oswego for an 8 PM start .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2012, 03:44:44 AM
Oneonta State drops a 70-54 decision to Ottawa University in the Hoop and Surf Classic out in Honolulu, Hawaii on 12-17. Ottawa is an NAIA team from Ottawa, Kansas. Red Dragons fell behind early, tried to play catch up and hung with the Braves through the first 11 minutes of play. Down 16-12 with 9:12 left in the half the Braves scored 8 unanswered points and coasted to a 38-21 halftime lead.

The 2nd half was more of the same as Ottawa gradually increased the lead to as much as 23 halfway through the period and the closest Oneonta could get was 13 points.

Red Dragons' Frankie Kelly was the game's leading scorer with 19 points (8x10 fg, 2x3 3's, 1x5 ft). Zach Mager had 14 points (1x4 fg, 1x2 3's, 11x12 ft) and a team leading 7 rebounds.


Oneonta State played again the next day on 12-18, also in Honolulu, and lost a 68-54  contest to Division II St. Edward University of Austin, Texas.
Red Dragons played a decent 1st half that featured numerous ties and lead changes. Down 27-26 with 1:52 left to play Oneonta scored 7 straight points and took a 33-27 lead into the break. The Hilltoppers quickly ate into that lead and after 4 minutes had forged in front 36-35. After trading leads over the next few minutes, St. Edward's, down 39-38 would go on an 11-3 tear to open up some daylight with 9:27 left to play. The Hilltoppers slowly increased the lead to double digits and led by as much as 15 on several occasions as they cruised to the win.

Frankie Kelly with 14 and Zach Mager with 13 once again led the Red Dragons.  Oneonta falls to 1-9 and will next play on January 8th when they host Oswego State.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 21, 2012, 12:29:19 AM
Buffalo state vs. Eastern Connecticut should be a good one.  From what I see of the Buffalo state scores very high scoring team have cracked 80 all 8 games and 90 in 3 of 8 games.  Eastern, under coach Bill Geitner is a defensive first team.  Eastern has won more high scoring games then usual this year, but for the most part they lose most games when the opposistion gets over 70 while they win most games if they keep the opposistion under 70.  Will be interesting to see which style wins out.  If Eastern is able to slow the pace down I like their chances, however if Buffalo state runs, plays up tempo, gets out in transistion this could get ugly real fast.  Will be interested to see what Magic says about this game.  For what its worth I have Eastern 72-71, but that's more a homer LEC pick then anything else.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2012, 05:22:03 AM
Only  one game on tap today for YAC teams.

Buffalo State vs Eastern Connecticut at Miami Florida 3:00 PM

As my friend, 7express, from the LEC wrote this should be a good one. The Warriors and Bengals have played a common opponent in New Paltz and both teams came away with a 4 point win over the Hawks. Buffalo won at home while Eastern won at Hawk Center. Both teams with 6-2 records, with quality wins and tough losses. I think the Bengals will be hard to slow down, but Eastern can play an up tempo game as well. Buff State guards Rod Epps (25.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 25x67 3's) and Jake Simmons (19.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 23x61 3's) are the heart of the Bengals offense and it's hard to shut them down. The Bengals 3rd guard is Anthony Hamer, who averages 7.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg and 6.0 apg. The Warriors counter with a solid backcourt as well in Brian Salzillo and Joe Ives. SUNYAC fans may remember Salzillo as he was the Eastern player who hit the big bucket against Oswego last year in the 2nd round of the NCAA's. Down 69-67 in the 2nd overtime, Salzillo came down and nailed a 3 pointer with about 5 seconds left to give Eastern a 70-69 win. There is a question about Salzillo's availability for today's game. He has missed the past 2 games for a rules infraction and I don't know if his temporary suspension will carry over to the Florida trip or not. The Warriors will start freshman Trachone Preston in place of Salzillo if he can't go. Salzillo averages 16.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg and leads the team in 3 point shooting with 26x61 (42.6%). Preston averages 7.5 ppg, and is 10x18 from downtown. Preston may start even if Salzillo plays but Salzillo gets 32 minutes a game to only 20 minutes for Preston. Ives is 3rd on the team in scoring with 12.0 ppg, 4.0 rpg and 12x29 from long distance. I have to give the edge to the Bengals in the backcourt not only for the scoring differential but for the ball hawking abilities of their 3 guards as well. Epps, Simmons and Hamer have combined for 55 steals in 8 games. Salzillo, Ives and Preston have 11 in 8 games. Eastern has the edge with their big men and if the Bengals' bigs get in early foul trouble that could prove to be a difference maker. The Warriors leading scorer is 6'4" jr forward Mike Garrow (16.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg) and 6'5" sr. forward Chris Robitaille is also hitting for double figs at 11.1 ppg with 7.3 rpg. A starter in 5 of 8 games this year, Tyler Hundley a 6'6" sr. forward gives them 5.8 ppg and 5.4 rpg. The Warriors also bring in occasional starter Brandon Yarborough who has 4.0 ppg and 6.8 rpg while averaging 22 minutes of floor time. Buffalo State counters with 6'7" soph Anyar Majak (10.8 ppg, 6.8 rpg) and 6'8" sr. Seth Runge (6.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg). Ryan Carny comes off the bench and adds 5.0 ppg and 5.6 rpg in 21 minutes per game.

This is a tough game to predict and it really is a pick em game. Three point shooting, a solid weapon for both teams, will be the deciding factor, I think. I've seen Jake Simmons light it up in person and believe he or Epps will be the difference makers. Plus I think the Bengals will win the turnover battle to offset any rebounding deficit. Like 7express I'm going with a homer pick and taking the Bengals to win this one over the Warriors 83-80           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2012, 05:57:42 PM
Final from Miami:

Buffalo State 89 Eastern Connecticut 85.

Waiting on some stats from Bengalsrule by phone. Eastern had a 1 point lead at the half. Bengals scored 8 of the final 11 points in the game to pull out the win.

Anyar Majak led the Bengals with a career high 31 points. He also had 7 rebounds and 5 blocked shots. Rod Epps had 21 points and Jake Simmons scored 19 points. Bengals won the battle of the boards and had fewer turnovers than the Warriors. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
While I was looking at rosters of teams that were scheduled to play this week in my Pick Em League I came across this little tidbit that I thought was funny. The top ranked team in the country at the moment is Virginia Wesleyan. They won't be #1 after the next poll comes out in early January as they suffered back to back losses this past week but they will end this year as the #1 team. Their most recent loss was to Wesley on 12-20 by a 72-70 score. On 12-8 York (Pa.) defeated Wesley 77-69. And on 11-17 the Oneonta Red Dragons with their 1-7 overall record defeated York (Pa.) 92-77. So the YAC's last place team, took down the team, that took down the team, that took down #1. I wonder if our conference will somehow benefit from that roundabout! ;D 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2012, 03:16:16 AM
One game on tap for Saturday Dec. 22nd. At least we're all still here to see how this one turns out since an asteroid didn't come crashing down upon us and wipe out the earth.

Buffalo State 7-2 vs Coe College (Iowa) 5-3 at Miami Florida 3:00 PM   Adidas Holiday Slam

The Bengals and the Kohawks both opened the tournament yesterday with a win. I think the Bengals played a tougher opponent in Eastern Connecticut than Coe did in defeating Lebanon Valley(only 3-7 overall). Coe has played several quality teams as they opened the season with a tough 1 point loss at  #17 Illinois Wesleyan from the CCIW conference, 52-51. They also own a win over Carthage, another CCIW team 70-63. The oddsmakers have made the Kohawks a 3 point favorite over the Bengals. I think Buffalo State will match up well with Coe. The Kohawks will start 3 guards and 2 forwards with their leading scorers averaging 14.1 ppg and 13.9 ppg. David Mataloni is a 6'2" sr guard and not only leads the team in scoring but is their main 3 point shooter with 13x29 from behind the arc. 6'7" sr Seth Light is their premier big man as he averages 9.1 rebounds per game to go along with his 13.9 ppg. No one else averages double figures with the other 3 starters hitting for 9, 8, and 5 ppg. They have averaged around 5.4  three pointers per game, but yesterday against Lebanon Valley they went off for 73% from downtown as they sunk 14x19. Hopefully they won't repeat that effort today against the Bengals.

Despite the odds I'm picking the Bengals to win this game. I think they will again win the turnover battle and if Anyar Majak comes close to his monster effort of yesterday the Bengals could win by double digits. Coe won't want to get into a track meet with Buff State, but it seems like that's what it always turns out to be, a 40 minute sprint. Bengals take this one 81-74.

I would very much appreciate a phone call from a certain Bengalsrule, with stat sheet in hand, at the conclusion of this game. I'm still waiting for a promised phone call with last night's stats that never happened. ??? The only problem with playing in this Miami tournament is... isolationism. No live stats, no video, no audio, and apparently NO BOX SCORES. So come on Champ, I'm always there for you when you're calling for the SUNYAC scores on game nights, it's time for some payback. I'll be at my store waiting for your call.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2012, 05:58:00 PM
Buffalo State 83  Coe College 67

Thought this one would go the Bengals way and my prediction of 81-74 wasn't too far off. No details yet and if its like yesterday's game the box score won't show up until tomorrow.

A couple of nice wins on the Bengals resume. The games won't count on their regional record but will help with strength of schedule.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2012, 07:31:49 PM
Bengalsrule just called me and I thought I was going to get some stats. Next thing I know he's telling me he'll call me later. He's at a Miami Heat game and the Heat are getting ready to take the floor.  All I got out of him was that Jake Simmons led the Bengals with 31 points and Rod Epps had 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 23, 2012, 09:28:37 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2012, 07:31:49 PM
Bengalsrule just called me and I thought I was going to get some stats. Next thing I know he's telling me he'll call me later. He's at a Miami Heat game and the Heat are getting ready to take the floor.  All I got out of him was that Jake Simmons led the Bengals with 31 points and Rod Epps had 16.
......and Kojo Mensah had 9 points. I should add that the stats were in 1 word...HORRIBLE. I get it from a reliable source ( 1 of the BENGAL coaches) that the half time stats (and ditto for the final game stats) were always way off with regards to fouls....turnovers, assists etc. i.e Halftime stats of BSC and ECU had the BENGALS winning 44-43 when the opposite was true and the score was correct on the school school board!!!! End of the game stats followed.

The stat that really mattered was that the BENGALS beat Eastern Conn by 4 and Coe by 16. The Eastern Conn team was truely a class act and that game wasn't decided until the final min.  Majak was the truth with 22 of his 31 in the first half...off the bench. Jake Simmons followed suit with 16 of his 19 in the 2nd half! had the BENGALS done better on the free throw line  (4-20) this game could have been over earlier.

   The game vs. Coe College was a different animal altogether. Coe shot the 3 pt lights out the night before, went 14- 19 on Friday night. But on Sat. my beloved BENGALS won the  3 pt battle on this night. . Sat. Coe also took 19  3 pt attempts but made only 5. The BENGALS shot 14 of 29 from beyond the arc,  and 8 of 12 in the 2nd half. Coupled with out-rebounding Coe by 8, scoring more bench points (57- 37) and points in the paint (44-32), this game was over earlier than most expected. 

   Fortunatly 1 of the BENGAL coaches had an extra ticket for the HEAT game so I was fortunate enough to join my beloved BENGALS at the AA Arena. ( I would have much rather been at a KNICKS game  :-[ )

  With the tourney having 6 teams and everyone playing only 2 games each it's hard to say who should be crowned Adidis Slam Champ. HOWEVER only Messiah and BUffalo State went 2-0 for the weekend. Medaille and Eastern Conn went 0-2, Lebanon Valley and Coe finished at 1-1. Using the famous KGLOVER tiebreaker system I feel comfortable saying that the BENGALS won the tourney. Before Magicman balks let me say why. The KGLOVER tie breaker is 1 - head to head  2 - record vs. Common opponent and if both of those don't result in a clear winner then the 3rd tie-breaker is Point differential vs. common opponents. Buff State beat E. Conn by 4 and Messiah beat  E. Conn by 1 ( in OT). Therefore .....the BENGALS won the 2012 Adidas Slam tourney! :)

  Apologies to my "Magic" friend for not getting him the stats earlier. But they, the stats, were so suspect (and the Seminole Hard Rock casino was soooo close :D) I figured that I'd just wait till the dust settled ( and the plane landed) to give him the entire scoop!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 23, 2012, 11:54:24 PM
Appreciate the updates from Bengalsrule. I realize the magicman is always gonna be second fiddle to the Miami Heat. (and a casino)

However....I'm still waiting to hear how the final 11 points were scored in the Eastern game ???

I mean, on Friday when you called, that was the first thing you were excited about. Something about scoring 8 of the final 11 points. No play by play in the box score, so I'm waiting on you, still!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on December 24, 2012, 11:28:43 AM
So far the Sunyac has impressed me with 5 very good/ dangerous teams including Buffalo state, Cortland, Plattsburgh, Oswego, and Geneseo. Saw Cortland, Buffalo State and Oswego play in person and look real solid. I think in the Sunyac Conference Title we will see Buffalo State vs Cortland. Cortland has a lot of Experience with their first six guys either Juniors or Seniors and are 2nd in my Regional Rankings (Behind Rochester). Buffalo State has 2 Very explosive Scoring Guards including Jake Simmons and Roderick Epps. Oswego State has ofcourse Hayden Ward who will probably be a 1st team all region Selection and Sean Michele a good experienced Senior Point Guard and a lot of Young Talented Freshman. I think Cortland has the Potential to make a Run in the NCAA tournament (Sweet 16).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 26, 2012, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on December 24, 2012, 11:28:43 AM
So far the Sunyac has impressed me with 5 very good/ dangerous teams including Buffalo state, Cortland, Plattsburgh, Oswego, and Geneseo. Saw Cortland, Buffalo State and Oswego play in person and look real solid. I think in the Sunyac Conference Title we will see Buffalo State vs Cortland. Cortland has a lot of Experience with their first six guys either Juniors or Seniors and are 2nd in my Regional Rankings (Behind Rochester). Buffalo State has 2 Very explosive Scoring Guards including Jake Simmons and Roderick Epps. Oswego State has ofcourse Hayden Ward who will probably be a 1st team all region Selection and Sean Michele a good experienced Senior Point Guard and a lot of Young Talented Freshman. I think Cortland has the Potential to make a Run in the NCAA tournament (Sweet 16).

Dcahill...Will you be at the Cortland/BUFFALO STATE game 1/11??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 03:53:14 PM
2 games on tap today for the SUNYAC:

Cortland State vs Ursinus at Daytona Beach, Florida 4:00 PM

Red Dragons back in action after a 2 week layoff. Hope they don't have a deja vu moment and play like they did last year after their holiday break. That game was the worst performance the Red Dragons had for the entire season as they hosted Nazareth and got killed 87-56 after an 18 day Christmas vacation. Their opponent this year is no pushover either. Ursinus comes into the game with a misleading 5-5 record, as the Bears have played a very competitive schedule. One of their 5 losses came against #2 Middlebury 78-73 and that was a one possession game with 11 seconds to play. Another loss was to #8 Franklin & Marshall 68-63, also a one possession game with 12 seconds remaining. They dropped a 1 point decision to an NCAA sweet sixteen team last year, Staten Island, 61-60. Point spread favors the Red Dragons by 9 points but I think it will be a little closer than that. The Bears are a big team and will start  6'10" forward Jon Ward and 6'8"  forward Kevin Janowski. They also have a pair of 6'3" guards and another 6' guard. 4 players average double digits with Ward and 2 of the guards all hitting 14 ppg. I'll go with Cortland to win this game 76-72 but the Red Dragons better bring their best because they'll need it against the Bears.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 04:15:27 PM
2nd YAC game today:

Pitt-Bradford at Brockport State   7:00 PM

The Golden Eagles host their holiday tournament. Wells will face off against SUNY-Canton in the opening game. Brockport shouldn't have much trouble advancing to the championship game of their tournament as they face off against the Panthers from Pitt-Bradford. The Panthers sport a 5-3 record but could only defeat winless Houghton 71-70. St John Fisher beat them 106-57. Oddsmakers favor Brockport by 13 but I think they win by a bigger margin. I'll take the Eagles to win this one 86-62. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 04:22:45 PM
Cortland jumped out to a 15-0 lead against Ursinus before the Bears came back a bit to make it 18-8. Another 10-2 spurt by the Red Dragons has given them a 28-10 lead with 10:40 left to play in the first half. Wanted to watch the game as they have a live video feed but the Land of Magic Classic organizers want $7.95 to see the game. I'll watch something else for free.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2012, 04:36:19 PM

Cortland 50, Ursinus 27 at the half. J. Winter 18 pts for RDragons who shoot 19x34fg, 9x21 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
Red Dragons brought their game today as they shoot 19x34 in the 1st half. Already have nine 3 pointers (9x21) thanks to 4 by Jesse Winter. Ursinus is struggling to hit their shots starting out 5x22 before hitting 6 of their last 9 to end up 11x31 for the period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2012, 05:15:29 PM

No Cortland letup ........73-40 with just over 9 minutes left. J. Winter with 28 pts(10x14fg, 6x9 3s). H. Hefele 15 pts, K. McMahon 10 pts. Corts 28x53 from the field ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 05:36:01 PM
Cortland 85 Ursinus 53 final score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
Gonna predict Cortland wins .........something like 85-53 ........... J. Winter 28 pts in 25 minutes. Scores 10 of the RDragons' initial 18.  Ursinus goes scoreless over the first 4:37. Winter 10x14fg, 6x9 3s, 4 assts. H. Hefele 15 pts(6x11fg) in 26' with 8 rebs. K. McMahon 10 pts(4x4fg), 5 rebs. Largest bulge at 78-42 on L. Herron triple with 7:48 left. CSt  to 8-1 and faces Emby-Riddle ....11-1 though against lesser foes .....in Sunday 6 pm tip. Ursinus' J. Kresna 14 pts. Bears 5-6 but like Magic said, some pretty fair foes. Narrow falls to respected Middlebury, F&M and Moravian ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 06:07:59 PM
Nice win for Cortland. What a difference a year makes. Last year after the holiday break they lose by 31 points, 87-56. This year after the holiday break they win by 32 points, 85 -53. Coach Spanbauer must have given them plenty of reminders this past week. ;D

I'm surprised they handled Ursinus so easily. No one had beaten the Bears by more than 5 points all year. And that includes some heavyweights. Making 14 three pointers certainly helped. Bears 2 big men scored a total of 11 points and their 4 double digit scorers had 5,6,8, and 14. Good thing they went to the line 19 times (they were 13x19 ft) or this could have been an even worse beatdown. Cortland was perfect from the line, but didn't get there very much, going 7x7. Of course when 37 of your 66 shots are from downtown, you're probably not going to get many fouls called on the other team. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 08:57:19 PM
Brockport trailing Pitt-Bradford at the half 38-37. Hope Coach Dunne lit into his players at halftime because that is a terrible first half of basketball. The Eagles should be burying this team. The whole purpose of Pitt-Bradford playing in the tournament was to be fodder for the home team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 09:04:14 PM
I finally got live stats to load the Brockport game and discovered that there was just a couple of minutes left in the game. The game has now gone final and Brockport manages to win 78-70 over Pitt-Bradford.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 29, 2012, 09:21:27 PM

Cortland-Embry Riddle game Sunday at 6 p.m. Host E-R now 12-1 after defeating 6-4 Merchant Marine 81-65 on heels of Corts roughing up Ursinus. Union currently with 33-28 early second half lead on Elmira. Hamilton on Friday stopped Wartburg 55-45. Eight team slate was predetermined.

Sunday also has Hamilton meeting Ursinus, Elmira vs. Merchant Marine, and Union vs. Wartburg.

Hoping Daytona Beach weather won't cool RDragons' hot hands. Tonight's temps there dipping into the 30s with Sunday high only in the 50s with wind. Makes for a rugged beach day prior to an early evening tip. Fortunately for us Sarasota-area residents we cruise into the 70s next week -- the way it usually is this time of year in F.L.A.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 11:03:27 PM
Brockport State 78 Pitt-Bradford 70

The first half of this game was a back and forth affair that saw 4 ties and 9 lead changes until Pitt-Bradford, down 19-17 with 10 minutes left in the period went on a 13-1 run to open up a double digit lead at 30-20. With only 4:37 left in the half at that point, the Eagles did well to close the gap down to a single point at 38-37 at the break.

The Panthers didn't let up at the start of the 2nd as they continued to lead but the Eagles finally caught them at 46 apiece with 13:50 to go. Panthers ripped off an 8-1 spurt and once again Brockport was trying to play catch up. 7 unanswered points by the Eagles did the trick and the teams were tied at 54 with 6:47 to go. Four lead changes and 3 ties would follow until the Eagles took control with a 9-2 burst that opened up a 71-64 edge with only 1:14 left in the game. Brockport would hit 9 of 10 from the foul line to end any hope of a Panther upset.

John Ivy (5x10 fg, 2x4 3's, 3x5 ft, 5 reb. 3 assist, 2 steals) and Lance Legister (4x12 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x8 ft) each had 15 points to lead Brockport. Matt Lee (4x6 fg, 3x4 3's, 0x1 ft, 5 reb.) and Jordan Major (3x12 fg, 3x12 3's, 2x2 ft, 5 reb.)also had double figures with 11 point each. Mike Gallagher had 9 points (4x5 fg, 1x3 ft) and 8 rebounds off the bench in 16 minutes of floor time. Port was 16x31 inside the arc, but a not so good 9x31 from downtown for an overall 25x62. They were 19x27 from the line. They were beaten 44-30 off the glass but came up big getting 22 turnovers while limiting their miscues to 8.

Pitt-Bradford had 4 players in double figures as well, led by the games's high scorer, Jesse Deloof with 18 points. The Panthers outshot the Eagles in every category and held the lead for a lot longer than Port did in this game but in crunch time just couldn't get it done.

Wells defeated SUNY-Canton (no surprise there) in the first game so tomorrow the Golden Eagles will play the Express in a 2:00 PM start for the tournament championship.

I'll go out on a limb here and predict a Brockport victory by a 82-71 margin   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2012, 11:16:00 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 29, 2012, 09:21:27 PM

Cortland-Embry Riddle game Sunday at 6 p.m. Host E-R now 12-1 after defeating 6-4 Merchant Marine 81-65 on heels of Corts roughing up Ursinus. Union currently with 33-28 early second half lead on Elmira. Hamilton on Friday stopped Wartburg 55-45. Eight team slate was predetermined.

Sunday also has Hamilton meeting Ursinus, Elmira vs. Merchant Marine, and Union vs. Wartburg.

Hoping Daytona Beach weather won't cool RDragons' hot hands. Tonight's temps there dipping into the 30s with Sunday high only in the 50s with wind. Makes for a rugged beach day prior to an early evening tip. Fortunately for us Sarasota-area residents we cruise into the 70s next week -- the way it usually is this time of year in F.L.A.

And is the Dean of Scribes going to make that 180 mile drive over to Daytona Beach to see his Red Dragons play? Or are you going to pay Embry-Riddle the $7.95 to watch it online? And what's your prediction on the Cortland-Embry-Riddle game? Inquiring minds would like to know. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 03:47:37 AM
Cortland State at Embry-Riddle     6:00 PM

Red Dragons take on the host team at the Land of Magic Classic but hard to figure the outcome here. Oddsmakers have the Eagles favored over Cortland by 6 points. Embry-Riddle is an NAIA II school and the only D3 team they have faced this year was Merchant Marine yesterday. They won that game 81-65 but I think the final score is deceiving. Merchant Marine actually had the lead at halftime 43-36 and was up by 12 points 59-47 with 13 minutes left to play. The Mariners were still up by eight at 64-56 with 9:21 to go when they hit the wall. I don't know what happened, but they missed their next 8 shots, had 5 turnovers, committed 5 fouls, and missed 3 of 4 free throws. They went 7:17 without scoring a single point. The Eagles scored 20 in that stretch and the Mariners found themselves down 76-64 with 3:01 to play. The Mariners scored a single point, a foul shot, with 2:04 left on the clock and never scored again. That's pretty darn hard to do even if you tried to do it. 1 point in 9 minutes and 21 seconds. I think that the Mariners should have won that game. I also think that Cortland is better than the Merchant Marine Academy and won't go 9+ minutes without scoring. Despite the oddsmakers favoring Embry-Riddle I think the Red Dragons are going to outshoot the Eagles and come away with an 80-76 win.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 03:53:02 PM
Brockport wins their tournament with a 79-57 win over Wells. Golden Eagles move to 5-4 overall.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 30, 2012, 04:48:50 PM
Red Dragons worried about Embry-Ridde? Most assuredly. The world's aeronautical leader is the Daytona-College's mantra! As in 'our missiles can take out your Mariner kayaks in quick order.' To wit: Magic's post of Merchant Marine nine minute haywire display to turn around Saturday's outcome. And there's little doubt the Corts can launch from the wild blue yonder. Air to air subversion? We shall see. Hate to make predictions ........cause we're bad at it!! Almost always go the other way. Wish we had the 'Magic Touch.' Hope he does for this one.

And, no, we won't be in attendance ........180 miles is a haul. Lotta miles in Florida, believe me. And nearly $8 to view. We'll pass. At the 6 p.m. tip we'll be finishing some baby backs for the village! Wonder if you get the audio if E-R is involved. You don't otherwise. Yes indeed

Gotta go baste .....

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 30, 2012, 06:18:05 PM
To answer the last question by jdex - yes, audio is free for the game. Sorry I didn't know this sooner or I would have posted that info. Link is on the same page as the video and stat links.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 06:27:28 PM
Cortland with an 18-12 lead as Jesse Winter just drained a three pointer, his third one of the game, with 10 minutes left in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 06:43:27 PM
Cortland leads at the half 29-26 over Embry-Riddle. Jesse Winter 8x12 from the field and 3x5 from downtown, leads all scorers with 20 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 30, 2012, 06:44:57 PM
If you're having trouble listening to the audio on Embry-Riddle's Stretch Internet page, you can also listen at:
http://goliathradio.com/level2/listenlive.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 30, 2012, 06:45:44 PM
 Neither team lighting it up. Notice we said team ......J. Winter the exception, of course. Corts overcome early deficit to lead most of the period ......by as many as seven

Earlier,Hamilton over Ursinus 84-77, and Union takes Wartburg 70-52

And, we must add, a nice professional audio call ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 06:47:33 PM
Quote from: franelia on December 30, 2012, 06:44:57 PM
If you're having trouble listening to the audio on Embry-Riddle's Stretch Internet page, you can also listen at:
http://goliathradio.com/level2/listenlive.aspx

I'm getting the audio feed and live stats with no problem off the link you provided on the Cortland website. Thanks Fran.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 07:18:32 PM
Cortland with a 2 point lead 46-44 with 9:09 left to play.  Go Red Dragons Go!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 07:24:55 PM
Cortland just went ahead 51-44 with a 3 pointer by Jeremy Smith with 6;13 to play. It was the first 3 pointer by a Cortland player other than the 4 3's from Jesse Winter.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 07:26:23 PM
Back to Back 3's by Embry-Riddle have made it 51-50 with 4:39 to go. It's offficially a barnburner now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 07:32:38 PM
Game tied at 54 with 1:57 to play. Eagles with the ball coming out of a time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 07:37:36 PM
Nine lead changes and 5 ties so far in this game.

Eagles score and one to go up 57-54.  Jesse Winter comes down and buries his 5th 3 of the game to tie it up at 57. Cortland gets the ball after an Eagle miss and foul. Non shooting as the Eagles only have 5 team fouls. They foul again now 6 team fouls. Red Dragons Brian Manning misses a three pointer and the Eagles get the rebound. Time out Eagles with 57 seconds to go.

Eagles just hit a three pointer with 22 seconds left. Cortland comes down misses a shot by Jeremy Smith but McMahon gets the rebound and Cortland calls a timeout with 7 seconds left.

Can't believe the Eagles will allow Cortland to get off a 3 point shot. Here we go and Eagles foul Harrison Hefele with 5 seconds left. He makes the first misses the second and the ball goes out of bounds off Embry-Riddle with 4.5 seconds left. Cortland ball out of a time out. Still a chance here. Eagles foul Hefele on the inbounds pass. He makes the first and makes the 2nd to tie it up. Eagles ball under the Cortland basket with 3.5 seconds to go. Time out Eagles. I think we're headed to OT here I hope. Can't believe that Cortland got a chance to tie this game up.  Eagles miss a long 3 pointer and it's overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 30, 2012, 07:48:12 PM
Cortland 60, Embry Riddle 60  ....to OT we go ........

Corts down 60-57 at 0:07 .....H. Hefele makes first of 1-and-1 FT, misses second .......E-R slaps ball out of bounds. Hefele fouled on in-bounds .....makes two FTs at 3.5 seconds. E-R misses final field bid .........

Back and forth second half. RDragons with 51-44 lead but host Eagles nail pair of threes, eventually take 57-54 lead. J. Winter knots it with a CSt triple. D. Mondragon lands a three for E-R and 60-57 lead at 0:22

Winter with 28 pts(11x19fg, 5x10 3s)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2012, 08:03:40 PM
Jeremy Smith hits a three ball to put the Red Dragons up 63-62 after a pair of Eagle free throws. Eagles come down and hit a bucket  to regain the lead, 64-63. Cortland misses on their next attempt and Eagles hit a 3 to go up 67-63 . Winter is fouled and hits them both to make it 67-65. Both teams misfire on their next possessions and Eagles hit a 3 pointer with 41 seconds left to open up a 70-65 lead. Red Dragons'  Smith buries another 3 with 22 seconds left, and Eagles call a time out. Cortland quickly fouls on the inbounds pass. Eagles make the first free throw, now makes the 2nd to make it a 4 point lead. Jeremy Smith comes down and hits a 3 to make it 72-71 with 13 seconds left. Eagles with a timeout. Cortland will have to foul again, which they do on the inbound pass. Eagles Caesar Pastrana with 21 points to lead his team is a perfect 7x7 so far from the line. He makes the first, and the 2nd to put Embry up 74-71.  Cortland's Jeremy Smith comes down and throws up a 3 ball that's off the mark and this game is a final.  Tough loss for the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 30, 2012, 08:10:29 PM
Cortland falls 74-71 in OT to Embry-Riddle. Free throws give E-R first extra frame scores before J. Smith triple gives Corts 63-62 edge at 3:55. Homestanding Eagle C. Pastrana layup at 3:25 puts E-R ahead for good. Moves to 70-65 lead on D. Mondragon three at 0:41. Smith quickly responds for Corts from beyond the arc. Embrys clinch from the foul line, Pastrana in particular. He offsets another Smith triple that comes at 12.9 seconds. Pastrana two FTs at 0:11 post the final tally. Smith off-balance bid for three fails at the finish line.

Pastrana with 23 pts, 11 rebs in victory. J. Winter 30 pts, 8 assts, 5 rebs for CSters. Smith's final surge gives him 14 pts. K. McMahon 9 rebs, 7 pts.

RDragons 8-2 .......Eagles 13-1 and ranked fourth in NAIA Div. II .....

Rib time .....just not as tasty ...........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on December 31, 2012, 12:30:20 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 30, 2012, 08:10:29 PM
Cortland falls 74-71 in OT to Embry-Riddle. Free throws give E-R first extra frame scores before J. Smith triple gives Corts 63-62 edge at 3:55. Homestanding Eagle C. Pastrana layup at 3:25 puts E-R ahead for good. Moves to 70-65 lead on D. Mondragon three at 0:41. Smith quickly responds for Corts from beyond the arc. Embrys clinch from the foul line, Pastrana in particular. He offsets another Smith triple that comes at 12.9 seconds. Pastrana two FTs at 0:11 post the final tally. Smith off-balance bid for three fails at the finish line.

Pastrana with 23 pts, 11 rebs in victory. J. Winter 30 pts, 8 assts, 5 rebs for CSters. Smith's final surge gives him 14 pts. K. McMahon 9 rebs, 7 pts.

RDragons 8-2 .......Eagles 13-1 and ranked fourth in NAIA Div. II .....

Rib time .....just not as tasty ...........

Sounds like it was a heck of a game.

I noticed in the box score that Billy Serle played 14 minutes for E-R and managed to go 1-6 from the field, including 0-4 from 3.  Added to that was a rebound and an assist.  Sounds like Billy hasn't changed his game much from his Rochester days.  I don't know if I've ever seen a kid, especially at 6'5" or so, so focused on launching shots.  His last year at U of R he led the team in shots and was 7th in minutes played
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
Brockport 79 Wells 57

No surprises in this game as the Golden Eagles opened up a quick double digit lead and coasted to the finish line. Port was up 18-3 after 4 minutes had gone by. They built the lead to 21 and settled for a 44-26 halftime advantage. The second half was more of the same as the Eagles stretched their lead to as much as 29 at 65-36. Wells was never closer than 20 points the entire 2nd half.

Brockport had 5 players in double figures led by John Ivy with 21. Lance Legister had 13, Bobby Bell and Mike Gallagher both had 11, while Jordan Major added 10 points. Bell led the team in rebounds with 7.

Wells had 4 players in double digits led by EJ Taylor with 21. 

Brockport improves to 5-4 and is back in action on January 5th when they host St. Lawrence at 4:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2013, 12:00:06 AM
Happy New Year to everyone. Hope 2013 is a healthy and prosperous year for all.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2013, 01:00:49 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2013, 12:00:06 AM
Happy New Year to everyone. Hope 2013 is a healthy and prosperous year for all.

+1!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 02, 2013, 03:23:11 AM
For the record...in case anyone is questioning why Jesse Winter was not named to the Team of the Week, don't blame the D3hoops.com folks. I forgot to nominate him - slipped my mind with the holidays. Not saying he would/should have won...just apologizing for my failure to nominate him.

Fran Elia
Cortland SID
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
   Plattsburgh vs. #7 (D3HOOPS) and undefeated Franklin Marshall, on their home floor, in the Sponagle tournament! I can't wait for this 1! After giving #2 Middlebury all that they could handle on Nov. 25th, I gotta believe that the Cards are ready for this 1! They must contend with a team that has some size.  F & M starting line up is 6' 2", 6' 3', 6' 4", 6' 6" and 6' 7". Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). They bring a 6' 7" and 6' 6" off the bench for substantial minutes also. Fortunatly, for Plattsburgh, I've seen them handle a team that had 2 - 6' 7" and a 6' 6" player on the court before  >:(, so I'm not worried about Curle handling these big guys. I look for Manning to have a double double, for Moody and Perez to come out swinging and for Parker to have at least 4 treys!!!!!

  Not a bad tourney with Giant killer Salisbury (beat #1 Virginia Wesleyan on their home floor-12/17) and Eastern Conn (Sweet 16 participant last year) also in the tourney! Latest Massey ratings have the SUNYAC at #15 in the country. Last years rankings stayed around  27th. A couple of wins in this tourney will bode well for the 'Yac

   Not sure how I can watch or listen to this game but I gotta believe that some guidance will "magic"ally appear before tip -off on how to watch this 1. :D

Go Cards  88-83!

The other game is Geneseo at Medaille. I doubt that that will be much of a game. Geneseo should run away with that 1!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
Two teams in action tonight:

Medaille at Geneseo   7:00 PM

Geneseo has won their last 4 games, is currently sitting in 1st place in the Yac and is the only unbeaten team in the conference. They are looking to get a measure of revenge tonight as Medaille handed them a 76-56 trouncing last year to open the season. Medaille lost 4 starters off that team, while the Blue Knights only lost 1. The oddsmakers have made Geneseo a 12 point favorite. I think the Mavericks will keep it a little closer, but see the Blue Knights winning this one 77-69.


Plattsburgh State at #8 Franklin & Marshall   8:00 PM

The Cardinals have their work cut out for them if they want to start the New Year off with a win. Not only do they get one of the top ranked teams in the country, they have to play them after a 24 day layoff. In the past six years Plattsburgh has failed to win the first game back coming off the Christmas break.  I'll be surprised if tonight's any different. The Diplomats 8-1 overall, are a well balanced, big team and they don't lose too often (103-21 for the past 4 years) and losses at home are nearly nonexistent. Pointspread shows this to be a very close game with the Diplomats favored by 2 points. I hope the Cards can break their jinx and win one coming back from a layoff. I don't think they will but I'm picking them anyways. Somehow, someway, they pull this one out and steal one from the home team. Cardinals 70 Diplomats 67.


Bengalsrule,

Video and live stats available at this link:   http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/fandm.portal# 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 07:03:25 PM
Eastern Connecticut is killing Salisbury 55-33 with 14:19 left in the 2nd half, of the first game at the F & M tournamnet. I'm hoping Plattsburgh gets to play Eastern Connecticut in tomorrow's game but it looks like we'll have to beat Franklin & Marshall to do so.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
Geneseo and Medaille  tied at 26 at halftime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 07:38:27 PM
Eastern Connecticut was all over Salisbury and ended up winning 75-55.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 08:53:49 PM
Plattsburgh not looking too good as they trail Franklin & Marshall 39-20  at the half. Plattsburgh is shooting poorly (8x21) committing too many turnovers (11 already) and letting F & M's big man Hayk Gyokchyan have his way with us. He's already got 26 points killing us inside and outside (he's 4x5 from downtown). Unless Coach Curle can come up with one heckava halftime talk, the Cardinals will end up losing this one by 30 or more. Team is looking lost on the offensive end and overmatched on the defensive end. Cards are still on vacation. Someone needs to tell them it's time to get to work!! I've seen this too often after the Christmas break. Was hoping this year would be different. >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 08:57:18 PM
Geneseo sneaks by Medaille 64-60. Also a fairly sloppy game. Looked like neither team wanted to win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
Very good video feed at F & M. Cards down 62-52. 2:30 left!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who was easily handled today by Eastern Conn.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Plattsburgh State loses to Franklin & Marshall 71-55. Nothing positive to say about this one. Regroup and hope to come away with a win tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.  Pretty much a 1 man show with the next 2 highest scorers getting 10 points and 6 points for F & M.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who were easily handled today by Eastern Conn.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who was easily handled today by Eastern Conn.

I know all about GYOKCHAN. He was the big man on my NCAA Fantasy team last year when no one knew who he was and everybody thought I misspelled his name when I drafted him. He carried my team for quite a while. He was good then, and he's that much better now. 6'7" and he thinks he'sRay Allen with his three point shooting !!. We should have been all over him from the git go. I was afraid he was going to kill us and he did....from the moment the game started. He hit double figures so fast my head was spinning.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 10:14:38 PM
What??? Do you like your posts so much that now you want to quote yourself and repeat them

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.  Pretty much a 1 man show with the next 2 highest scorers getting 10 points and 6 points for F & M.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who were easily handled today by Eastern Conn.

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.  Pretty much a 1 man show with the next 2 highest scorers getting 10 points and 6 points for F & M.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who were easily handled today by Eastern Conn.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2013, 10:14:38 PM
What??? Do you like your posts so much that now you want to quote yourself and repeat them

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.  Pretty much a 1 man show with the next 2 highest scorers getting 10 points and 6 points for F & M.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who were easily handled today by Eastern Conn.

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.  Pretty much a 1 man show with the next 2 highest scorers getting 10 points and 6 points for F & M.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who were easily handled today by Eastern Conn.


I thought that I was fixing a typo :-[ :-\ :'( :P >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2013, 11:39:35 PM
You do know that all you have to do is hit remove in the upper right hand corner of your post and voila!!.. it disappears, never to be seen again. :D That way you can get rid of the post that you made the mistake in and no one will ever know, especially a guy like me, who won't let you get away with it. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2013, 10:38:55 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2013, 11:39:35 PM
You do know that all you have to do is hit remove in the upper right hand corner of your post and voila!!.. it disappears, never to be seen again. :D That way you can get rid of the post that you made the mistake in and no one will ever know, especially a guy like me, who won't let you get away with it. ;)

Oh Magic 1...I am forever in your debt...Again!!  Thanks!   I'll have this stuff down pat by Feb. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on January 03, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who was easily handled today by Eastern Conn.

I know all about GYOKCHAN. He was the big man on my NCAA Fantasy team last year when no one knew who he was and everybody thought I misspelled his name when I drafted him. He carried my team for quite a while. He was good then, and he's that much better now. 6'7" and he thinks he'sRay Allen with his three point shooting !!. We should have been all over him from the git go. I was afraid he was going to kill us and he did....from the moment the game started. He hit double figures so fast my head was spinning.
Magic,
It is frustrating, knowing that your team can play better than it did!!, But even excellent teams have off days,(nights).  Gyokchan, was phenominal last night, and as you said, without a key on him, it was going to be a long night. At least the video feed was good!!! 8-)
The Cards will be back in the win side tonight!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2013, 04:43:51 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on January 03, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2013, 12:11:20 PM
  Their leading scorer and rebounder 6' 7" Hayk Gyokchan looks like a beast (on paper). .

Gyokchan 16- 18 for 40 points..including 6 - 3 pointers!!! The "beast" lives as F & M pulls away at the end and wins 55-71.

Cards can get some redemption tommorrow against Salisbury who was easily handled today by Eastern Conn.

I know all about GYOKCHAN. He was the big man on my NCAA Fantasy team last year when no one knew who he was and everybody thought I misspelled his name when I drafted him. He carried my team for quite a while. He was good then, and he's that much better now. 6'7" and he thinks he'sRay Allen with his three point shooting !!. We should have been all over him from the git go. I was afraid he was going to kill us and he did....from the moment the game started. He hit double figures so fast my head was spinning.
Magic,
It is frustrating, knowing that your team can play better than it did!!, But even excellent teams have off days,(nights).  Gyokchan, was phenominal last night, and as you said, without a key on him, it was going to be a long night. At least the video feed was good!!! 8-)
The Cards will be back in the win side tonight!!!

ECSUalum,
Thanks for the vote of support concerning the Cardinals. I hope you're right and they win the consolation game tonight against Salisbury. I'd love nothing more than to see your Warriors take down Franklin & Marshall tonight. If Salzillo can repeat his performance of last night it's certainly possible, but it's hard to imagine he can stay that hot for that long. I think Gyokchan will have another huge game for the Diplomats, hopefully he won't get a lot of help from his teammates. I think the Warriors will stay close but in the end F & M will probably hold them off, something like 68-63. I hope I'm wrong though.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2013, 04:56:12 PM
Plattsburgh State vs Salisbury  5:00 PM Consolation game of the Franklin & Marshall Tournament in Lancaster Pa.

Hopefully the Cardinals can rebound tonight and get the W against Salisbury. Niether team looked very good last night and I'm expecting Salisbury to regroup off their poor effort against a hot shooting Eastern Connecticut. The Cardinals should improve off their performance last night as well. No line posted for this game but I think if there was one it would have made the Sea Gulls a 2 point favorite. I'm going with the Cardinals to get back on the winning track and think they win this one 75-69. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2013, 06:11:40 PM
Plattsburgh State losing to Salisbury 44-31 at the half.

Cardinals needed to come out of the break and make something happen. Salisbury was the team that came to paly in the 2nd half however as they have quickly doubled their 13 point halftime lead and now lead 66-40 with 12:16 to play. Cardinals look lost and Curle has just pulled all five guys for a new five. Good move, as it can't hurt.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2013, 07:04:01 PM
Salisbury 87 Plattsburgh State 69

This was a good game for the first 14 minutes of the first half. Salisbury was up 24-22 with 7:18 left in the period when the Sea Gulls went on a 20-6 run over the next 5 minutes to open up a 16 point advantage at 44-28. A 3 pointer by the Card's Jordan Moody cut it to a 13 point halftime edge. As mentioned earlier it was the Sea Gulls who came out of the break with some urgency and another 16-5 run gave them a 24 point 60-36 lead and this ballgame was over. Cardinals with a chance to make a statement this weekend, but instead discover they need to improve in a number of areas to compete with the better teams in D3.

Jordan Moody with 11 points led the Cardinals in scoring. John Perez and Kalik Parker both added 10 points. Plattsburgh shot 26x60 from the field (44%) but only 4x23 from long distance (18%).

Plattsburgh falls to 7-4 and is off until Jan. 11th when they travel west to face Geneseo then Brockport. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
Two games on tap for tonight.

New Paltz State at Delaware Valley  7:00 Pm

The Hawks are back in action after a lay off of over three weeks. Delaware Valley had two games last week when they played in a tournament at Catholic down in DC, winning 1 and losing 1. The Aggies are a slight favorite to win this game but I think that New Paltz is the better team. Just wish they had a game under their belt after the long layoff. Even so I'll go with the Hawks and hope they can overcome the rust. I see them winning a close one 84-81. 


St. Lawrence at Oswego State   7:00 PM

The Saints handed Oswego one of their four losses last year when they surprised the Lakers on opening day of the 2011-12 season by a score of 66-62. It marked the 2nd year in a row that the Saints upset Oswego as they defeated the Lakers 58-57 in January of 2011. During that 2 year stretch, Oswego only lost 3 regular season home games and 2 of them were to St. Lawrence. Not only that but the Saints have owned the Lakers for the past 6 years as they have won 5 of those 6 meetings.  Needless to say the Lakers will have revenge in mind when they tangle tonight. The Saints are struggling this year as they come into the game with a 2-5 record and the 2 wins were against less than stellar competiton. They beat a 1-10 Elmira team (who finally broke into the win column last night) and SUNY-Canton who is worse than Elmira.   The Saints have already lost to Plattsburgh State and Potsdam State and tomorrow night will take on Brockport State. They might as well join the conference. Both teams are coming off long layoffs so the game might be a bit sloppy. Oddsmakers have made Oswego an 18 point favorite in this one. That seems about right. Oswego beat Ithaca by 12 and Ithaca beat St. Lawrence by 19. I think the Lakers will win 85-65.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 02:40:26 AM
Oswego State 62  St. Lawrence 52

Hayden Ward with 22 points was the games' leading scorer as the Lakers gain a measure of revenge over the Saints. Teams trade baskets through the early going until the Lakers go ahead 19-11 with 7 minutes left in the period. Saints closed to 21-18 but Oswego ended the half with a 10-2 run and went into the break up 31-20.

Still up 10 39-29 after 4 minutes of 2nd half play the Lakers used another 10-2 burst to open up their largest lead of the night at 49-31. Saints did manage to peck away at the lead and actually got it to within 6 points at 58-52, on a 3 pointer by Matt McTague, with 2:30 left in the game. Those would be their final points though as the Lakers' Sean Michele would hit 4 straight free throws to close this one out.

Chris Gilkes was the only other Laker in double figures as he had 13 points and 4 rebounds. Michele added 6 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists. Ward led the Lakers in rebounding, as well as scoring, with 7 boards.

Neither team shot particularly well as the Lakers went 22x53 (41.5%) from the field and 4x14 from the 3 point line (28.6%). Foul shooting was a plus as they made 14 of 17 (82.4%). Lakers were outrebounded by the Saints 37-29 but only had 5 turnovers to 14 for St. Lawrence.

Brady Condlin was the only St. Lawrence player to hit double figures as he had 14 points and 7 rebounds. Janpeter Brase grabbed 9 rebounds and scored 8 points. Trent Benton had 9 points and 6 boards. Saints shot 20x53 (37.7%) from the field, 5x15 (33.3%) from downtown, and 7x11 (63.6%) from the line.

Oswego ups their record to 8-1 (2-1) and will host RIT on Saturday at 4:00 PM

St. Lawrence falls to 2-6 and will travel to Brockport on Saturday at 4:00 PM as they look to avoid an 0-4 SUNYAC record. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 03:48:34 AM
Delaware Valley 74  New Paltz 72

Once again the Hawks come up just short against a non-conference opponent. This one surely has to hurt as New Paltz fought back from several 15 point 2nd half deficits. The Hawks were trailing at the half 39-31 and fell into a deeper hole when the Aggies opened the 2nd period with a 13-6 run to go in front 52-37. Still up 56-41, with 14:38 to play, the Aggies were outscored 25-9 over the next nine minutes as the Hawks went in front 66-65. The teams traded leads until New Paltz down 69-68 got a hoop and harm from Shareef Taylor as the 3 point play put the Hawks in front 71-69. After the Aggies missed on their next possession, the Hawks Matt Devine was fouled and made 1 of 2 to make it a 3 point Hawk advantage, with 2:43 left to play. New Paltz would fail to score another point. Both teams would misfire on their next possession and then Del Valley hit a bucket with 1:06 remaining to make it 72-71. Again New Paltz missed their next attempt from the field and fouled the Aggies Zach Sly with 25 seconds left. Sly made the first to tie it up but missed the 2nd and Shareef Taylor got the rebound for the Hawks and a chance to win the game with the last shot. The Hawks, never got that shot off as they turned it over with 7 seconds left. Delaware Valley took a timeout and with 2 seconds left scored on a layup to walk off with the win.

Shareef Taylor led New Paltz with 26 points (10x17 fg, 0x1 3's, 6x8 ft) 14 rebounds, and 5 steals. Matt Devine had 15 pts (4x17 fg, 2x4 3's, 5x6 ft) and 9 rebounds. Andrew Joseph added 11 points (5x8 fg 0x1 3's, 1x1 ft), 4 rebounds and 5 assists. Hawks shot 25x65 (38.5%) from the field, only 2x14 (14.3%) from behind the arc and 20x25 (80%) from the stripe. They won the battle of the glass 48 to 38 and had 16 TO's to 14 for the Aggies.

Del Valley had 4 players in double figs led by Daulton Derr with 19 points. Jeremy Becket had a double-double of 18 points and 16 rebounds. Zach Sly had 13 points and 8 assists, while Jay Donovon added 11 points and 4 assists. Aggies were 27x63 (42.9%) from the field, 9x23 from downtown (39.1%) and 11x21 from the line (52.4%).

Hawks are now 4-7 (2-2) on the season and their next game will be Tuesday Jan. 8th when they host Cortland at 8:00 PM.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 07:34:31 AM
Jake Simmons is the latest recipient of the SUNYAC Player of the Week Award. Jake was honored for the period from December 9th through Dec 30th. This takes in the 3 games that the Bengals played on 12-14, 12-21, and 12-22 which were all Bengal victories. On 12-14 against Central Penn  Jake broke the all time Buffalo State scoring record. He eclipsed NBA great, Randy Smith's career points total of 1712 with a career best 43 point effort to end that game with 1722 total points. Jake was 15x23 that night including 6 of 11 from downtown and a perfect 7x7 from the stripe. A week later against Eastern Connecticut Jake had 19 points and the next day against Coe College he went off for 31 points. During that 3 game stretch Jake averaged 31 ppg and was 32x55 from the field...58.1%, 15x31 from downtown...48.3%, and 14x15 from the foul line...93.3%. Not too shabby!! His point total now stands at 1772 and there's a very good chance that before the year is over Jake will break the 2000 point mark.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:  I like mine better. ;D

Jake Simmons, Buffalo State
Rochester, NY / School of the Arts
View Full Bio

"Jake Simmons scored a career-best 43 points in a win over Central Penn and broke former NBA All-Star Randy Smith's all-time Buffalo State scoring record of 1,712 career points. Simmons averaged 31.0 points during the three-game winning streak."

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 04:08:55 PM
Games on tap for Saturday:

RIT at Oswego  4:00 PM

Oswego should win this game. I think the Lakers will handle the Tigers without too much difficulty. Point spread favors the Lakers by 14 and I see them winning 80-64.

St. Lawrence at Brockport  4:00 PM

Golden Eagles try and keep the Saints winless in SUNYAC play. Oddsmakers have Brockport favored by 11. Saints make may a game of it but will come up short once again. Brockport will prevail 76-67.

Potsdam at Manhattanville  4:00 PM

The Bears will try and get a win streak started here as they go against the Valiants but they haven't played in almost a month since they beat Fredonia back on December 8th. Point spread has Manhattanville favored by 4 but I think being on the road and rusty will make for a bigger margin than that. Manhattanville will take this one 84-76.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 04:25:39 PM
Apparently  the Potsdam-Manhattanville game started at 3:00 PM and not 4:00 PM as I posted earlier. The Bears trail at the half 46-45. Curtis Pierce with 13 points to lead Potsdam. Go Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 04:52:25 PM
Brockport leads St Lawrence 41-25 at the half.

Potsdam leads Manhattanville 70-67 with 6:45 left to play. GO BEARS.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 05:14:10 PM
Potsdam's Curtis Pierce scores with 9 seconds left to give the Bears an 82-80 lead. Manhattanville calls timeout and then calls a second timeout. They turn the ball over with 6 seconds left and foul the Bears Zac Adams. He makes both free throws and then the Bears Mark Lake steals the ball and makes a layup at the buzzer and the Bears win 86-80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
Oswego's live stats quit working with the score 21-14 in favor of the Lakers with 6:58 left in the 1st period. No video and now no live stats.

Brockport leading St Lawrence by 20 points early in the 2nd half. Annoucers never give the score and they won't show the scoreboard in the video cast so I don't know the actual score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 05:23:22 PM
Brockport leads 67-44 over the Saints with about 10 minutes left to play

Oswego leads RIT 53-48 with 5:22 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 05:38:46 PM
Oswego's livestats  still not working but the D3hoops scoreboard shows Oswego winning 60-58 with 12 seconds left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 05:49:04 PM
Oswego State hangs on and defeats RIT 63-59. Lakers couldn't have played very well to have this game end up that close.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2013, 05:55:17 PM
Brockport buries St Lawrence 91-62. Bobby Bell with 18 points, John Ivy with 16, Brandon Caruthers with 12, and Mike Gallagher with 10.

Brockport improves to 6-4 (1-2) and will host Geneseo on Tuesday Jan. 8th at 8:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 05, 2013, 09:43:14 PM
Top 5 teams in the region right now in my Opinion
1. Rochester
2. New York University
3. Stevens
4. Cortland
5. Union
6. Oswego State
In the Hunt.. Buffalo State,Nazareth, Plattsburgh, Clarkson
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 07:27:34 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 05, 2013, 09:43:14 PM
Top 5 teams in the region right now in my Opinion
1. Rochester
2. New York University
3. Stevens
4. Cortland
5. Union
6. Oswego State
In the Hunt.. Buffalo State,Nazareth, Plattsburgh, Clarkson

While I agree with most of your selections I wouldn't have Union in the top 10. They have compiled an excellent 11-1 record but in doing so have beaten a bunch of teams that are near the bottom of the 412 teams in Division 3. Eight of their 11 wins have come against teams with losing records. Those eight teams have a combined won-loss record of 20-68. The best of the 8 are RIT with a 4-6 record and Utica College (they played them twice) with a 4-8 record. The other 5 teams are 2-9, 2-9, 0-10, 1-10 and 3-6. Union's best wins are against Hartwick and Clarkson. Clarkson, with an 8-2 record is nearly as guilty as Union when it comes to playing cupcakes this year. They lost to Potsdam State 77-65 and Potsdam is in 9th place in the SUNYAC. Hartwick has also played a very weak schedule and their 7-5 record was built against a bunch of losing teams. Hamilton with a 7-5 record at the present time beat the Dutchmen but by the end of the season I'll be surprised if the Continentals have a winning record either. The Massey ratings system shows Union with a strength of schedule of 345. Clarkson's is 332, Hartwick's is 294, and Hamilton's is 193. I think Bard, Vassar and Skidmore are the only Liberty League teams with a worse strength of schedule than Union's. The Raptor's come in at #406 out of 412, Vassar is #399 and Skidmore is #354. Hobart by comparison is ranked at #3 and SLU is #239.

I'll be surprised if Union wins the Liberty League this year. The league as a whole is definitly experiencing a down year but I think Hobart is still the team to beat. St Lawrence has played 4 SUNYAC teams and is 0-4 and didn't even play 3 of the top teams in the YAC.  If Union was in the SUNYAC league or the Empire 8 conference they wouldn't even make the playoffs in either league. The Liberty League is 1-10 against the SUNYAC this year and their lone win was by Skidmore over last place Oneonta 66-63.

I've taken the time in the following post to list the entire East Region with Massey's ranking among the 412 teams in D3 and the 2nd number is their strength of schedule ranking. While I think there are some obvious computer errors (to me anyway) it gives a good idea of how the East teams stack up.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 07:28:38 AM
The East Region Rankings for all 39 teams in the Region according to Ken Massey's Rating System. The number in front of the team is their National Ranking. The number following the team is their Strength of Schedule ranking. There are 412 teams in Division III in his rating system and that's what the numbers are based on.These rankings are through games of 1-4-13.

Example:  Rochester is the #2 ranked team in the country out of 412 teams. Their strength of schedule is rated as the 55th toughest schedule out of 412 schedules. Hobart's schedule tops the East region, ranked as the 3rd toughest in the country. Remember these are computer ranking and I don't think they're anywhere near perfect but it's fun to see how the teams stack up. I'll probably do an update a few weeks down the road as I'm sure things will change.

2      Rochester                 55
26    Stevens Tech            57
29    Cortland State           82
43    NYU                         107
53*    Hobart                    3**     
55    Oswego State            301 
60    Nazareth                  78
65    Buffalo State            124
71^    Union                     345     
88    Geneseo State          169       
99    Plattsburgh State      73
116  Ithaca                     238
117  St. John Fisher          209
119  Clarkson                   332 
151  Brockport State         215
174  Hilbert                     380     
205  Skidmore                  354
212  Hartwick                   294
221  RIT                          190
229  New Paltz State         183
239  Potsdam State           155
253  Morrisville State          273
255  RPI                           329
259  Medaille                     288
278  Fredonia State            335
308  St. Lawrence              239
315  Keuka                        287
319  Utica College              204
331  Elmira                        136
341  Oneonta                     150
352  Wells                         352    same number for both rankings
356  Vassar College             399
362  SUNYIT                      283
373  Bard                          406
374  SUNY-Cobleskill           326
380  Alfred                        384
386  Cazenovia                  402
391  D'Youville                   369
405  Houghton                   364

Notes:
*I think Hobart is ranked too high but understand why they are up there with a win over Naz and 2 close losses to Rochester. Personally I think Buffalo State is a better team as well as a few others.

**I think the 3rd toughest schedule in the country is a stretch. Again I believe it's due in part because they played U of R twice, but they also get Bard and Vassar twice each. ;D

^As I stated in my previous post I think that Union is overrated. The 4 teams ranked right below them should all be ranked ahead of the Dutchmen in my opinion and possibly a few more teams as well.



The Fifteen teams with the toughest strength of schedule in the East folowed by their National Ranking are:

1   Hobart                   3
2   Rochester              55
3   Stevens Tech         57
4   Plattsburgh State    73
5   Nazareth               78
6   Cortland State        82
7   NYU                      107
8   Buffalo State          124
9   Elmira                    136
10 Oneonta State        150
11 Potsdam State        155
12 Geneseo State        169       
13 New Paltz State      183
14 RIT                       190                       
15 Utica College          204 
                   

Finally here are the rankings that Massey has for the Conferences in the East Region. There are 48 conferences in Division III and he ranks them from 1 to 48 using a number of key statistics.  The number preceding the conference is their national ranking

2.     UAA  (Rochester and NYU)
11.   SUNYAC (10 teams)
26.   Empire 8 (9 teams)
29.   Liberty League (9 teams)
44    AMCC (D'Youville, Hilbert and Medaille)
46    NEAC  (Cazenovia, Keuka, Morrisville State, SUNY-Cobelskill, SUNYIT, and Wells)

                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 06, 2013, 12:56:02 PM
That is great stuff @magicman where do you find that stuff keep me updated with those ranking and strength of schedule for east region teams
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 06, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 06, 2013, 12:56:02 PM
That is great stuff @magicman where do you find that stuff keep me updated with those ranking and strength of schedule for east region teams

Have some fun....

http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&yr=2013&sub=11620
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 06, 2013, 01:23:58 PM
Thanks @magicman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 06, 2013, 12:56:02 PM
That is great stuff @magicman where do you find that stuff keep me updated with those ranking and strength of schedule for east region teams

Glad you liked it I did it just for you. ;D ;) I see that Ethelred the Unready was already ready and gave you the link to Massey's rating system. If you click on the individual teams it will bring up their entire schedule and give you their past scores and also probabilities of their chances of winning future games. Also note that the numbers I used in my post have all changed slightly because Massey has updated his rating through games of 1-5 and I used figures that were through 1-4. They constantly get updated throughout the year.
You can also find the rankings for the conferences using the drop down menu when you click on the "more" link. Or you can click on the NCAA III link and all the conferences are displayed for you to choose from. If you click on the green Massey logo on the top lefthand corner it opens up all kinds of sports links. As Ethelred said  "Have some fun." Plus k to you.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 02:46:19 PM
One game on tap today as the Potsdam State Bears travel to Mahwah, New Jersey to take on the 10th ranked Ramapo Roadrunners at 3:00 PM. I think the Bears have bitten off more than they can chew with today's matchup. Ramapo will come at the Bears with 5 starters all averaging double figures. A pair of 6'1" senior guards, a 6'2" senior guard and a couple of bigs that are also seniors. They average 80 ppg and only give up 66 ppg. Their only setback came in the D3hoops Classic out in Las vegas over the holidays where they were beaten by the #1 ranked North Central Cardinals 67-57. They dug themselves a first half hole and were down by 18 with 13 minutes to play. They fought back to get within 5 points but had to foul and ended up losing by 10. This team could very well make a deep run in the post season. Point spread has the Roadrunners favored by 14. I hope the Bears can keep it that close. I think the Roadrunners will beep beep the Bears to the tune of 85-67. Hope I'm wrong on this one though. Go Bears. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 03:50:31 PM
Potsdam State is hanging with Ramapo as they only trail 43-41 at the half.

Curtis Pierce with 13 points and Mark Lake with 12 to lead the Bears. Will Sanborn leads Ramapo with 19 points. Both teams with 18 rebounds and the Bears with 7 turnovers to 11 for the Roadrunners. Largest lead for Ramapo was 5 points while the Bears had a 3 point lead on 3 ocassions. Numerous ties and lead changes as neither team could open up much daylight. Hope the 2nd half goes as well for Potsdam. Go Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 06, 2013, 03:57:06 PM
This is a pride game for the Bears, as this weekend is the closest their players get to play in from of their families all season.

Go Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 06, 2013, 03:57:06 PM
This is a pride game for the Bears, as this weekend is the closest their players get to play in from of their families all season.

Go Bears!

Well they're still hanging in there. Maybe playing in front of the relatives will inspire them to pull out all the stops. Only down 66-61 with 10:21 left to play. Bears got down by 10 but came back to get it down to a single point. Can't quite get over the hump but I'm still hoping. Go Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 04:30:42 PM
Live stats have been frozen now at 10:21 for about 8 to 10 minutes. Any updates Bear? I couldn't pull in the radio broadcast. Did you get an audio feed?

This game is now probably over but I have no idea what happened live stats froze and never worked again. Help me out here Bear!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 06, 2013, 04:51:20 PM
Apparently Bears lost 94-80.  There was a tie at 61, but live stats froze after that.

Bears will have a long season giving up 90 points, regardless of who they play.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2013, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 06, 2013, 04:51:20 PM
Apparently Bears lost 94-80.  There was a tie at 61, but live stats froze after that.

Bears will have a long season giving up 90 points, regardless of who they play.

Yes, I see that the D3hoops scoreboard has posted the final score of 94-80. My live stats froze at 66-61.  Too bad, the Bears were looking good for 30 minutes. Would have liked to have seen how the final 10 minutes played out. Massey hit that one right on the nose with the 14 point spread, unfortunately. I figured it was too much to ask for the upset.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2013, 05:03:57 PM
Potsdam State's Curtis Pierce has been named the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the period ending January 6th. Curtis scored 53 points in 2 games over the weekend. He had 30 against Manhattanville and 23 against 10th ranked Ramapo. He was 20x34 from the field, 4x11 from the 3 point line and 9x13 from the stripe. He also had a total of  16 rebounds for the 2 games.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

"Curtis Pierce led the Bears to a 1-1 record during a tough non-conference slate. The senior posted a career-high 30 points in an exciting 86-80 comeback win over Manhattanville College. Pierce nearly missed a double-double performance and hit several key shots in the contest. The Brooklyn native then scored 23 points to put his team in contention with the #10 ranked Ramapo Roadrunners. He averaged 26.5 points per game and eight rebounds per game."

The write up states "Pierce nearly missed a double-double performance", when it should have read... he nearly had a double-double. Curtis had 30 points and 9 rebounds in that game. Congratulations to Curtis on an exceptional weekend performance.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2013, 01:26:40 PM
Congrats to Curtis Pierce who I affectionally call the "BIONIC MAN". He bounces back from knee injuries like Adrian Peterson. And he's a nice kid to boot!!

And yes magicman, your post of Jake Simmons (last week's POW) was the best that I've seen! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2013, 03:38:00 PM
  And now it's time for some serious SUNYAc hoops. With 75 games left ( all but 2 are 'Yac contests), the next non -conference game for all but Potsdam (plays Utica college on 1/15) and Oneonta (Plays hamilton on 1/29) will be in the post - season. And with the number of 'Yac playoffs berths reduced to 6 (from 8) every game is that much more important. After reading Magicman's post about our massey rating at 10 (moved to 13th yesterday >:( ) I'm encouraged to see that others have noticed the 'Yac. 1 thing is for sure... the 'Yac didnt schedule cupcakes this season  like many of the other teams in and around NYS. (Notre Dame take note!!!)

    Last year the SUNYAC finished 31st in the massey ratings with a 39-36 non-conference record. This year we have consistently hovered around #10 to #15 since late Dec. That's because the teams that we, SUNYAC, have played have been good teams from "historically" great conferences. Our non-confernce schedule this year looks like a who's who from last years NCAA tourney. Teams like St. Josephs (LI) NCAA participant in 11-12 with a 21-5 record, Ithaca E8 champ - NCAA's 11-12, Middlebury 26-4 last season - NCAA "Sweet 16" participant 11-12, Franklin & Marshall  28-3 last season - "Elite 8" participant - currently ranked #14th, NYU 21-6 last season - NCAA 2nd round - currently ranked #34th, Scranton 23-8 last season - "Elite 8" Participant and Eastern Connecticut 24-6 last season & "Sweet 16 " participant ..found out first hand that 'Yac teams are for real! Having a 4-5 record vs. these teams surely must make some take notice.

   Our, SUNYAC, non-conference record is currently 42-25 (Win% of .627) . Thats the 8th best winning percentage amongst the 48 D3 conferences (last year it was 39-36- .520%). When it gets around Feb 22nd..23rd and we have 2 more victories (c'mon Potsdam and Oneonta) we would/should have a winning % around .639. Possibly the 5th best win% in the nation. And with it multiple bids to the dance!?

   I'm hoping that all the teams that have tasted "non - conference defeat" at the hands of the 'Yac run the table from here on! There wins are good for our conference SOS (Strength of Schedule) which (I Believe) Massey and the NCAA take into account. Now I see why magicman has 10 computers moniters up and running on game night. :D. 1 teams pain is certainly another teams pleasure! ;D 75 games in 35 days. My Tuesday's, Friday's and Saturday's just got more interesting!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 07:11:53 PM
Three conference games on tap for tonight all starting at 8:00 PM.

Cortland State at New Paltz State

Cortland is the highest ranked SUNYAC team according to Ken Massey's rating system as he has the Red Dragons ranked 29th in the country. He has New Paltz ranked at #241. Needless to say he has Cortland favored to win this game by 12 points. Cortland coming off a split of their holiday games in Florida. They handed Ursinus, a team that hung with nationally ranked Middlebury and Franklin & Marshall, their worst loss of the season at 85-53. Ursinus only lost to both those ranked teams by 5 points. The following day Cortland dropped a 74-71 overtime decision to 14-1 Embry-Riddle on the Florida team's home court. New Paltz has dropped their last 3 games and the Hawks have struggled to win the close ones. They are 0-4 in games decided by 4 points or less. Red Dragons are looking for their 4th straight win over the Hawks and I think they win this one 85-69.

Oswego State at Oneonta State

9-1 Lakers taking on the 1-9 other Red Dragons. Point spread has Oswego favored by 13 but they should win this game by a bigger margin than that. Lakers seem to be making a habit though, of playing down to the competition's level. They open up a sizable margin and then let the other team hang around. They've been outscored in the 2nd half in a number of games where they've had a double digit halftime lead. Oneonta is coming off a 3 week layoff and will find it tough to get up to speed against a Laker team that's played 2 games in the past 5 days. Lakers won a pair from the Red Dragons last year 68-55 and 67-55. I think they win this one 74-57.

Geneseo State at Brockport State   

This should be the most competitive game of the night. Geneseo won their last meeting 67-66 and the Golden Eagles won the game before that 67-61. Eagles have won 6 of the last 7 games however. Both teams coming off wins as the Blue Knights improved to 7-3 with a win over Medaille, 64-60, last Wednesday, while Brockport pounded St. Lawrence 91-62 last Saturday. Eagles have reeled off 3 in a row to get to 6-4 on the season.  Brockport has been listed as a 1 point favorite and I expect a close game. I think that Geneseo will walk off Tuttle North with the win, though, by a 74-71 score. I wouldn't mind being wrong on this one so the standings can get tightened up a bit. If the 3 favorites win tonight we'll have a 5 way tie for first place with all five teams possessing a 3-1 league record.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
The fastest half of hoops I think I ever seen as Cortland trails New Paltz 36-33 at the half. Didn't even take 30 minutes to play the half.

Shareef Taylor leads the Hawks with 12 points and 6 rebounds. Matt Devine with 7 points.

Jesse Winter with 15 points for the Red Dragons. He's 5x10 from the field, 4x5 from downtown. Harrison Hefele with 9 points.

Cortland up 17-9 and 20-13 early on. Hawks fight back to close within 1 at 29-28, then reel off 8 unanswered points to grab a 36-29 edge. Hefele gets 2 layups to pull Corts within 3 at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
Oneonta leads Oswego 28-24 at the half.  Dogs having their day so far.
Zach Mager leads Oneonta with 11 points and 4 rebounds. Frankie Kelly with 4 points and 5 rebounds.

Hayden Ward with 11 points to lead the Lakers. Chris Gilkes with 6 points and 4 rebounds.

Oswego up 15-8 with 12:22 left in the half, get outscored 20-9 the rest of the way.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 08:58:31 PM
Brockport leads Geneseo 40-29 at the half.

Blue Knights with early 6-0 and 9-2 lead but Port goes on a 12-0 run to grab a 14-9 advantage. Eagles keep right on flying as they increase the lead to as much as 14 at 38-24 and 40-26. Connor Fedge hits a 3 pointer for Geneseo to cut it to 11 at the break.

Jordan Major is 4x5 from 3 point land to lead Brockport with 12 points. Lance Legister is 6x6 from the stripe and has 9 points.

Brockport has caused 14 Geneseo turnovers in the first half.

Blue Knights led by Jordan Jones with 11 points and Fedge with 8. Geneseo is beating the Eagles off the boards 25-14 but the TO's are killing them. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Cortland and New Paltz tied at 66 with 1:28 left to play and New Paltz with the ball. Shareef Taylor buries a three, Cortland comes down and misfires on a 3 pointer. Hawks rebound and Taylor Sowah scores on a layup and the lead is 71-66 with 23 seconds left to play. looks like the Hawks are finally going to win a close one. Winter is fouled and makes 1 of 2. ad Cortland quickly fouls. Matt Devine makes them both and Jeremy Smith comes down and buries a triple to make it 73-70. Red Dragons call a timeout with 14 seconds left to play. Cortland quickly fouls on the inbounds pass. Matt Devine goes to the line and makes the first and Cortland calls a time out. Devine makes the 2nd after the TO and Cortland comes down and misfires. Another foul and Devine makes 2 more. This game is over and the final is 77-70. Hawks pull off the upset.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 09:37:45 PM
It's a dog day afternoon night, as the lowly Oneonta Red Dragons whip Oswego State 67-57. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 09:39:20 PM
Brockport is trying to make it 3 upsets in a row as they lead the conference leaders 68-59 with 4:48 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
Brockport holds off Geneseo as they defeat the Blue Knights 87-78.

Plattsburgh State and Buffalo State are very grateful to the Golden Eagles as there is now a 3 way tie for 1st place with the Blue Knights, Bengals and Cardinals all with a 3-1  record.

The Cards do hold the tiebreaker over the Bengals though. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 09, 2013, 07:35:41 AM
Regardless of how well the 'yac does in out of conference play, when the league appears to be an "Anyone can beat anyone on a given night" conference it will probably hurt as far as bids go, since the conference leader could have as many as 3 or 4 losses.

Appears parity rules.  That's why they play the games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on January 09, 2013, 10:08:41 AM
first off - happy new year everyone.

second - was a great night for the underdogs last night. finally new paltz came out strong and consistently played together - rather than trying to make it a one-man show...still trying to figure who that one man is after those 3 terrible losses to geneseo, hamilton and delaware valley. also, played much stronger d - np has been terrible defending the 3 this season. much smarter ball tonight.

hawks also did a great job of taming jesse winter (even though he still had 20!) - came out strong with those big 3's but they held him to 4 pts. in the 2nd half.

interesting, yet useless hawk stat? new paltz is 12-0 in 2nd halves this year.

facing a much tougher-than-their-record-reflects oneonta team saturday. hopefully the boys get a streak going. also a tip of the hat to coach rejniak last night - spanbauer and his crew are tough. way to finally make it happen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2013, 11:13:22 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 08, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
The Cards do hold the tiebreaker over the Bengals though. ;D

Well we'll see what we can do about that on the 25th!! ;)

  As far as the "Wacky 'Yac"... I must admit that I was surprised by yesterdays results, especially Oneonta over Oswego. Least surprising was the Brockport game. Brockport picked up a kid (Caruthers) 2 weeks ago, who was playing D-1 ball last month for Oklahoma Panhandle (where he was 2nd on the team in assists). Plus they were on a 4 game win streak before last nights victory. I had said earlier that they were fast and athletic and on thier home court...anything is possible! 5 of thier 6 wins have been at home so far! Unlike most teams who play in front of sparse crowds during the winter break, Brockport has a pretty steady fan base since 6 of their stars players are all from the Rochester area. They had 400 plus in attendance last night which almost equals the combined totals of the New Paltz (210) and Oneonta crowds (208). Their victory was probably the least surprising. And they are gonna win some more!! Beware Potsdam and plattsburgh (this weekends opponents!!

    The Cortland/New Paltz game looks like it just came down to shooting and free throws. N. Paltz went 16 of 20 from the stripe while Cortland was 14 of 21. Coupled with a miserable shooting where they shot 35% (24-68) from the field (27.6 from beyond the arc), compared to N. Paltz's 48.1 (26-54) and 37.5 from beyond the arc (9-24). Cortlands shooting resembled the shooting of a recent foe of theirs, Ursinus, who shot 33.3% from the field and 25% from beyond the arc. I doubt either team will have that bad night again. Something tells me that the rematch on Feb. 12th could be a barn burner.

  As far as the Oneonta game ...it looks like an equally bad shooting night for Oswego. 39.3 (22-56) from the field  and 20% (3 of 15) from beyond the arc :o??? Say no more.

  As I said before 3 losses may get you home court for the 'Yac playoffs. Nothing bad about a tough league. Makes you stronger for the playoffs. Steal sharpens steal..butter doesn't sharpen anything! We owned the E8 and L. L. so I'll take 'Yac play in East any day of the week. Always have and always will!

   Now I'm gonna run up to Buff State and see if our guys are working on thier shot!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 09, 2013, 02:45:30 PM
Actually Oklahoma Panhandle is a D-II school, 4-10 on the season, Massey rating (1175) lower than Brockport's (1002).

Potsdam guard Mark Lake Jr. is also a D-II transfer from St. Joes of Indiana, which is actually ranked (1018) slightly above Oklahoma panhandle.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 09, 2013, 03:25:17 PM
after seeing upsets all over the place in the SUNYAC. This conference in my opinion wide open with Oswego, Cortland, Buffalo State, Geneseo, Plattsburgh. Sunyac looks so far to have the best Conference in New York State. Oswego, Cortland, Buffalo State depending on who wins the SUNYAC and other leagues possibly could receive an At Large Bid. That loss to Oneonta last night Could hurt Oswego if they dont win their League to get into the NCAA tournament. There is a ton of good teams in the East this year Especially in the Empire 8 and SUNYAC. Cortland, Buffalo State and Oswego State I think are the 3 front runners in this conference with Geneseo and Plattsburgh not to far behind. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2013, 04:17:49 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 09, 2013, 03:25:17 PM
after seeing upsets all over the place in the SUNYAC. This conference in my opinion wide open with Oswego, Cortland, Buffalo State, Geneseo, Plattsburgh. Sunyac looks so far to have the best Conference in New York State. Oswego, Cortland, Buffalo State depending on who wins the SUNYAC and other leagues possibly could receive an At Large Bid. That loss to Oneonta last night Could hurt Oswego if they dont win their League to get into the NCAA tournament. There is a ton of good teams in the East this year Especially in the Empire 8 and SUNYAC. Cortland, Buffalo State and Oswego State I think are the 3 front runners in this conference with Geneseo and Plattsburgh not to far behind.

I certainly agree with your first statement there "best Conference". I'll let Magicman deal with your 2nd statement about  "the Empire 8". It's definitly gonna be a whirlwind of a season in SUNYAC!

I had asked you a couple of weeks ago if you were gonna be at the Cortland/Buff State game this Friday?! I'm thinking about making that run myself. Not sure if you saw that earlier or not.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2013, 09:31:59 AM
It looks like an exciting weekend in the 'Yac. Think Im gonna wait for some "Magic" predictions before I comment.

Doesnt look like Ill hear from dcahill before I drive up to Cortland (wouldnt miss that game for all the tea in China). Maybe Ill meet franellia!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Big weekend in the SUNYAC as the top teams in the conference face off against each other in at least 4 games.

Friday Night's Action.  All games start at 8:00 PM.


Fredonia State at Oswego State

Oswego is smarting after a loss to last place Oneonta on Tuesday. Don't think the Lakers will drop 2 in a row. Fredonia hasn't beat the Lakers in nearly 3 years and will be hard pressed to do so tonight. Point spread has the Lakers favored by 16 points. Blue Devils getting beat by double digits on the road, should be more of the same tonight. Oswego wins 80-62.

Potsdam State at Brockport State

Brockport after starting the season 2-4 has now reeled off 5 wins in a row. Geneseo was the only quality team they beat in those 5 games however but still they are a team that's been improving. Potsdam has also been improving as they stand at 4-6 for the year and are coming off a split of 2 road games last weekend. The Bears hung with #7 Ramapo for 30 plus minutes before finally losing 94-80. They were only down 3 with 10 mnutes left to play. Oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 9 point favorite in this one. Bears haven't won in Brockport in at least 7 years and the Eagles have won 3 of the past 4 meetings. Bears will hang with them but eventually fall to the Eagles 84-73.

Buffalo State at Cortland State

This is a huge matchup because the winner of this game may need a tiebreaker at the end of the year to secure a higher seed. Cortland coming off a big loss at New Paltz. That makes this game almost a must win for the Red Dragons or they will fall 2 games behind 2 teams. Buffalo State with a chance to come out of this weekend in sole possession of the conference lead. Also a chance to come out of this weekend in 7th place. Point spread favors the Red Dragons by 8 points. I think that's too many. I see the home team, Red Dragons, winning this track meet but in a close one 89-85.

Plattsburgh State at Geneseo State

Two of the three teams tied for the lead in the YAC making this one the game of the night. Plattsburgh coming into this game off 2 losses to start the 2nd half of the year. The Cardinals have played the toughest schedule in the SUNYAC this season with their opponents having a winning percentage of nearly 70%. Blue Knights with a loss at Brockport on Tuesday to fall from the unbeaten conference ranks. These teams have taken turns sweeping each other for the past 4 years. Geneseo swept the Cards last year. I'm hoping it's the Cardinals turn this year. Point spread has the Blue Knights favored by 4 points. Both these teams are deep as they each have 10 players with double digit minutes per game. They don't rely on a couple of dominant scorers but have a number of players who can beat you on any given night. I'm going to buck the odds here and go against the home team trend. I'll take my underdog Cards to pull off the upset 72-69.       



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 08:41:35 PM
Geneseo leads Plattsburgh 37-26 at the half.

Looks like the Cardinals are getting shafted by the refs. Lots of questionable calls in this game. No live stats... very poor video as the game is constantly interupted by advertisements right in the middle of play. Cards trailed at one time by 18 at 34-16 but have fought back to narrow the gap to an 11 point deficit.

Live stats are showing a first period score from the women's game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 08:46:09 PM
Potsdam leads Brockport 34-33 at the half.

This game advertised live video but that's not happening. Live stats showed the women's final score for at least half of the men's first period. Finally brought up the men's live stats with about 9 minutes to go. Curtis Pierce leads the Bears with 11 points. Rob Duquette with 6. Lance Legister leads Port with 10 points. Newcomer Brandon Caruthers with 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 08:48:58 PM
Oswego with a 40-24 lead over Fredonia at the break.

Kyle Covley leads the Lakers with 14 points. Hayden Ward is next with 6. John Kovach keads the Blue Devils with 6 points and Zach Edwards has 5.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 08:52:01 PM
Cortland leads Buffalo State 54-38 at the half.

Jesse Winter with 17, 7x9 from the field. Brian Manning with 9, Kevin McMahon with 8 and Jeremy Smith with 7.

Rod Epps with 12 tops the Bengals. Anthony Hamer with 7 and Jake Simmons with 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 09:24:13 PM
Geneseo leads Plattsburgh 55-52 with 4:53 left to play.

Oswego 61 Fredonia 39 with 6:10 left to play

Cortland 79 Buffalo State 60 with 8:57 to go

Brockoort 62 Potsdam 57 with 8:44 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 11, 2013, 09:34:49 PM
Rochester refs at work in the Potsdam - Brockport game as well.  Bears draw within 1 at 65-64, then refs call a personal on Potsdam, followed by a technical.  Eagles make 3-4 from the line and then a layup on the retained possession to extend to 70-64.

Hard to play 5 on 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 11, 2013, 09:38:52 PM
Guess the T got the Bears focused, they have drawn within 1, 71-72 with 1:53 left.  Curtis Pierce leads Bears with 26, Mark lake has 19.  Brandon Carruthers has 18 to lead Eagles, followed by B. Bell with 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 09:44:06 PM
Final Scores:

Geneseo beats Plattsburgh 66-64

Oswego defeats Fredonia 74-56
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2013, 09:46:56 PM
More finals:

Cortland all over Buffalo State 100-89

Brockport downs Potsdam 83-71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 03:11:17 AM
Geneseo 66 Plattsburgh 64

Plattsburgh almost overcame an 18 point deficit in this one but it's tough to beat a good Geneseo team and the men in striped shirts at the same time. Someone needs to teach that crew what a traveling call is all about. I don't usually complain about the officiating but it seems there's always a couple of games every year where one team ususally comes out on the short end of the whistle. Tonight was Plattsburgh State's turn to experience a lousy crew. I watched this crew call so many cheap fouls and then not call some obivous muggings that it was ridiculous. I will give the Blue Knights credit for hitting some key shots when the Cardinals got it to a one or two possession game late in the 2nd half. When Plattsburgh's Mike Mitchell hit a big three to make it 50-44 with 8 minutes left, Geneseo's Jordan Jones came down and hit a jumper to counter that basket. Then the Cards' Ed Correa came down and buried a three to narrow the lead to 5 and Jones retaliated with a three of his own to build the lead back to 8. Plattsburgh's Kalik Parker then made a three pointer and Shavar Fields made 2 free throws to make it a one possession game at 55-52 with 5 mintes left in the game. Once again the Knights responded on a layup by Connor Fedge and a triple by Andy Drescher to restore an 8 point advantage. A Plattsburgh turnover resulted in another layup by Fedge and the 10 point lead with 2:29 left proved too much for the Cards to overcome. The Cards did cut it to 5 points at 64-59 on an old fashioned 3 point play by John Perez with 1 minute to go. After a Geneseo foul gave the ball back to Plattsburgh, the Cards misfired and had to foul with only 37 ticks left. Marcus Hoy hit both foul shots to make it a 7 point lead. Plattsburgh missed a 3 pointer but Shamoy McIntosh got the rebound and scored to make it 66-61. The Cards had to foul but let too much time tick away and when they did foul there was only 10 seconds remaining. Geneseo missed the front end of a 1 &1, Cards got the rebound and McIntosh buried a three with 5 seconds left to make 66-64. They fouled with 3 seconds to play and after Jordan Jones missed the first one I think he missed the second one on purpose and the Cards could only get off a half court heave that didn't come close for a final shot.

Geneseo was led by Connor Fedge with 15 points (7x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x2 ft). Ryan Riefenhauser had 13 points (6x6 fg, 1x3 ft) and 7 rebounds. Jordan Jones also had 13 points (5x8 fg, 1x1 3's, 2x6 ft). Gordon Lyons filled up the stat sheet with 6 points, 8 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists. Marcus Hoy led the Knights with 7 assists. He only had 2 points but they were 2 big free throws which proved to be the winning points.

Blue Knights shot an excellent 27x47 from the field (57.4%), 6x13 from 3 point land (46.2%), but only 6x13 from the line (46.2%). They won the rebounding battle 31 to 27 and had 16 turnovers to 17 for the Cards.

Plattsburgh was led by Chris Manning with 13 points (6x9 fg, 1x1 ft). He also had 5 steals, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Shamoy McIntosh had 12 points (5x11 fg, 2x6 3's) while John Perez added 10 points (4x6 fg, 2x4 ft) and 4 rebounds.

Cards were 25x56 from the field (44.6%), only 6x19 from long distance (31.6%) and 8x12 from the stripe (66.7%). I have to question some of the stats in the box score. They show Billy O'Shea with 18 minutes of playing time. Yet he has nothing but zeros in his stat line. No shots, no rebounds, no fouls, no turnovers...nothing. O'Shea has been averaging about 6 minutes per game. I don't even recall seeing him in this game. They also show the Cards with 17 turnovers and Geneseo with 10 steals. I think they gave the Blue Knights a bunch of steals for all those traveling calls the zebras made against the Cards. ;)

Geneseo uses the UStream website for a video feed of their games. There is no announcer, no score or clock anywhere on the screen and the only time you know the score is when there is a time out. Then the camera will pan to the scoreboard. The absolute worst thing though is the commercials that run thoughout the broadcast and always while the game is in progress. These aren't commercials that are superimposed over the game. These are commercials that for a full 30 seconds black the game out just like a television commercial. You would think if they have to run commercials that it would be done during time outs. Especially when it's a close game and every possession is important. But wait... time for a 30 second message from the sponsors. Live stats never existed either. Frozen on a women's score part way through their game. Pretty sad and frustrating for the viewer. Oh well.

Geneseo takes over sole possession of 1st place in the YAC with a 4-1 conference record and improves to 8-4 overall. They will host Potsdam State later today at 4 PM.

Plattsburgh drops into a 6 way tie for 2nd place with a 3-2 conference record. The Cards fall to 7-5 overall. They will travel to Brockport to take on the Golden Eagles also at 4 PM today. 

I doubt there's another conference in the country that has a 6 way tie for 2nd place. ;D           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 03:15:31 PM
All 10 teams in action this afternoon. All games at 4:00 Pm. Home teams are tough to beat in the YAC. More of the same today in most instances.

Buffalo State at Oswego State

Two of the 6 teams tied for 2nd place. Hard to beat Oswego in Laker Hall. Plattsburgh did it earlier this year but I think the Bengals come out on the short end here. Point spread has the Lakers favored by 3. Sounds about right. Not sure if Buffalo State can contain Hayden Ward.  Oswego has won 5 of the last 6 meetings. Make it 6 out of 7, Lakers win 80-76.

Fredonia State at Cortland State

Blue Devils go from the frying pan into the fire. An 18 point loss yesterday to Oswego could be the better effort for their weekend on the road. Cortland can't afford another loss if they want to keep pace with Geneseo. Pointspread favors the Red Dragons by 19. Cortland has won 6 of the last 7 in this series. Red Dragons take another 83-58.

New Paltz State at Oneonta State

Hawks coming off a big win against Cortland, will look to make it a Red Dragon double this week. Oneonta coming off a big upset of Oswego looking to get some more respect. Oddsmakers have made the Hawks a 3 point favorite here. I think that New Paltz stays in the hunt for a playoff spot and will take this one 78-70.

Potsdam State at Geneseo

Bears have split the last 6 meetings with the Blue Knights. They played Brockport tough yesterday only to come up short in the final few minutes. Geneseo sits atop the conference and won't want to fall back into the pack. Pointspread favors the Blue Knights by 10. I think the Bears will come up short again. Geneseo wins this one 75-67.

Plattsburgh State at Brockport State

Plattsburgh coming off a 2 point loss to Geneseo yesterday will look to get back on the winning track after 3 straight losses. This is a matchup of 2 more teams tied for 2nd place. Teams have split their last 8 meetings in one of the hottest rivalries in the YAC over the past 10 years. Point spread has the Golden Eagles favored by 5. It's time for the Cardinals to break out of their slump but it won't be easy against a Brockport team that's reeled off 6 wins in a row. Still I'm going with the Cardinals to break the home court spell here. Plattsburgh wins a close one 82-79.     

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 12, 2013, 04:37:45 PM
Halftime, Geneseo 43, Potsdam 25. Live stats frozen from the women's game.  Looking like a douple dip for the Bears this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
Halftime scores:

New Paltz 46 Oneonta 30

Oswego 39 Buffalo State 36

Geneseo leads Potsdam 43-25 at the half.

Plattsburgh leads Brockport 44-38 at the half.

Cortland leads Fredonia 42-28 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 05:12:39 PM
Plattsburgh 44 Brockport 38 at the half.

Kalik Parker came off the bench and hit 4 3 pointers to lead the Cardinals with 12 points. John Perez had 11 points and Ezra Hodson had 7. Brockport was led by John Ivy with 13 points.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 05:17:02 PM
Updates:

Oswego has pulled ahead of Buffalo State 57-46 with 11:44 left.

Oneonta has pulled within 4 points of New Platz and trails 61-57 with 8:45 to go

Geneseo leads Potsdam 65-44 with 7:32 left.

Cortland all over Fredonia 62-37 with 11:09 remaining

Plattsburgh leads Brockport 63-56 with 12:30 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 05:27:18 PM
More updates:

Oswego 67 Buffalo State 54 with 7:44 to go

New Paltz 68 Oneonta 63 with 4:28 left

Cortland 74 Fredonia 52 with 6:22 left

Geneseo 72 Potsdam 49 with 2:32 left

Plattsburgh 69 Brockport 69 with 8:00 minutes left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 05:36:45 PM
Updates:

Geneseo defeats Potsdam 78-58

New Paltz defeats Oneonta 79-70

Oswego 73 Buff State 66 2;21 left

Cortland 80 Fredonia 58 1:18 left

Plattsburgh 73 Brockport 71 4:25 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 05:44:01 PM
Cortland 84 Fredonia 61 final

Oswego State 79 Buffalo State 69

Plattsburgh Leads Brockport 78-71 with 2 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Plattsburgh defeats Brockport 82-81. Wow what a game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2013, 09:23:49 PM
All 10 teams in action this afternoon. All games at 4:00 Pm. Home teams are tough to beat in the YAC. More of the same today in most instances.

Buffalo State at Oswego State

Two of the 6 teams tied for 2nd place. Hard to beat Oswego in Laker Hall. Plattsburgh did it earlier this year but I think the Bengals come out on the short end here. Point spread has the Lakers favored by 3. Sounds about right. Not sure if Buffalo State can contain Hayden Ward.  Oswego has won 5 of the last 6 meetings. Make it 6 out of 7, Lakers win 80-76.

**Final score 79-69

Not as close as I predicted but only missed the Lakers score by a single point. Chris Gilke with 24 points, 8 rebounds and Hayden Ward with 23 points, 11 rebounds to power Oswego. Sean Michele also with double figures with 10 points.  Rod Epps led the Bengals with 17 points and Chris Castren had 10. Seth Runge with 9 points and 5 rebounds.

Lakers down by 9 at 28-19 with 7:41 left in the 1st half mount a comeback and forge ahead for good on a 3 pointer by Kyle Covley with 1:40 left in the period enroute to a 39-36 halftime lead. A 13-0 run to open the 2nd half spelled doom for the Bengals. Lakers opened up a 19 point lead at 57-38 with 13:44 left to play. The Bengals didn't fold however and fought back to get it to within 5 points at 73-68 with 1:49 left to play but 4 straight points by the Lakers put this one out of reach. Oswego goes to 4-2 in the conference (11-2 overall) and Buff State falls to 3-3 (8-4 overall).
Oswego is off until Friday the 18th when they host Brockport State.
Buffalo State will host Geneseo on Tuesday the 15th.

Fredonia State at Cortland State

Blue Devils go from the frying pan into the fire. An 18 point loss yesterday to Oswego could be the better effort for their weekend on the road. Cortland can't afford another loss if they want to keep pace with Geneseo. Pointspread favors the Red Dragons by 19. Cortland has won 6 of the last 7 in this series. Red Dragons take another 83-58.

** Final score Cortland 84 Fredonia 61

Pretty darn close on this prediction. I only missed Cortland by a point and Fredonia was only a 3 pointer from my score. Blue Devils hung with the Red Dragons for the first 10 minutes and actually had a 13-7 lead at one point. Tied at 17, Cortland scored 9 straight points but the Blue Devils  answered with their own 9-0 run. It would be their last hurrah. Cortland would end the half on a 16-2 run to go into the break up 42-28. A 15-5 spurt to open the 2nd half pushed the lead to a 26 point advantage at 57-31 and this game was over.

Cortland had 4 players in double figures led by Kevin McMahon with 18 points. Jesse Winter had 14, Lamard Herron had 13 and Jeremy Smith had 10. Dalton Kashmer led Fredonia and was the game's high scorer with 25 points. Robert Lyles had 11.  Cortland stays tied for second with a 4-2 conference record (10-3 overall) while Fredonia is now 1-5 (5-7 overall).
Cortland is off until Friday the 18th when they host Geneseo before they travel to Brockport on the 19th.
Fredonia will host Brockport on Tuesday the 15th. 



New Paltz State at Oneonta State

Hawks coming off a big win against Cortland, will look to make it a Red Dragon double this week. Oneonta coming off a big upset of Oswego looking to get some more respect. Oddsmakers have made the Hawks a 3 point favorite here. I think that New Paltz stays in the hunt for a playoff spot and will take this one 78-70.

** Final score New Paltz 79 Oneonta 70

This prediction was almost perfect as I missed by a single point. Matt Devine had to go and make that final free throw to spoil my day. Teams played  fairly even through the first 11 minutes and then the Hawks up 20-18 went on a 15-3 run to go in front 35-21 with 5:38 left in the half.  They built the lead to 19 before the Red Dragons got a 3 point play to make it 46-30 at the break. Oneonta came out of the locker room and doubled up the Hawks 22-11 through the first 9 minutes to make it a 5 point game at 57-52 and then scored after a New Paltz misfire to narrow the gap to a single possession. Hawks would open up a 7 point advantage on several ocassions but Oneonta would come back each time and closed to within 2 points at 70-68 with 3:40 left in the game. Up 72-70, the Hawks got a layup from Shareef Taylor and after the teams traded turnovers, Oneonta turned it over again and Taylor scored with another layup to make it 76-70 with 1:29 left. Again Oneonta committed a turnover but the Hawks gave it right back. Red Dragons needing to score then turned it over for the 4th straight time. They had to foul and Devine made 3 of 4 down the stretch for the final margin. Not going to win any close games with 4 turnovers in a row in the final 2 minutes.

New Paltz had 4 players in double figures led by Shareef Taylor with 18 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals, and 3 assists. Deveino McRae had 17 points and 8 rebounds. Matt Devine had 14 points and 6 rebounds, while Taylor Sowah had 12 points and 4 rebounds.
Oneonta's Zach Mager grabbed scoring honors with 26 points, 5 assists and 3 rebounds. Jackson Zuvic added 14 points.
New Paltz also claims a share of second place with a 4-2 conference record (6-7 overall) and Oneonta drops into a tie for last place at 1-5 (2-10 overall)
New Paltz is off until next weekend when they travel North to face Plattsburgh then Potsdam.
Oneonta  will make the same trip taking on Potsdam first then Plattsburgh.

Potsdam State at Geneseo

Bears have split the last 6 meetings with the Blue Knights. They played Brockport tough yesterday only to come up short in the final few minutes. Geneseo sits atop the conference and won't want to fall back into the pack. Pointspread favors the Blue Knights by 10. I think the Bears will come up short again. Geneseo wins this one 75-67.

** Final score Geneseo 78 Potsdam 58

Final score wasn't too far off from my prediction as I missed the Blue Devils by 3 and Potsdam came up a bit shorter than I thought they would. Potsdam got out of the blocks with a 7-2 lead but Geneseo quickly took over and turned it into a runaway. Down 9-8 the Blue Knights went on a 12-0 run to open up a double digit lead with 10:45 left to play in the half. Still up by 12 at 32-20, Geneseo got another 9-1 spurt to make it 41-21 and went into the break up 43-25. They opened the 2nd half with another 12-2 run and the lead was 28 at 55-27 and the Bears were done. They did cut it to 15 inside of a minute. Live stats showed a final of 76-60 but must have credited a Geneseo basket to the Bears because it's now posted at 78-58.

Geneseo was led by Jordan Jones with 15 points. Matt Curry had 13 points and 7 rebounds, while Connor Fedge had 13 points and 4 rebounds. Gordon Lyons had 8 points and 9 rebounds.
Curtis Pierce was the only Potsdam player in double figures as he shared scoring honors with 15 points and grabbed 6 rebounds. Rob Duquette had 8 points and 7 rebounds.
Geneseo retains sole possession of 1st place in the YAC with a 5-1 record (9-4 overall) while Potsdam slips into a 3 way tie for last place with a 1-5 record (4-8 overall)
Geneseo will travel to Buffalo State on Tuesday and head to Cortland on Friday the 18th.
Potsdam will play their final out of conference game on Tuesday as they host Utica College. They will then face Oneonta and New Paltz on the weekend. 

Plattsburgh State at Brockport State

Plattsburgh coming off a 2 point loss to Geneseo yesterday will look to get back on the winning track after 3 straight losses. This is a matchup of 2 more teams tied for 2nd place. Teams have split their last 8 meetings in one of the hottest rivalries in the YAC over the past 10 years. Point spread has the Golden Eagles favored by 5. It's time for the Cardinals to break out of their slump but it won't be easy against a Brockport team that's reeled off 6 wins in a row. Still I'm going with the Cardinals to break the home court spell here. Plattsburgh wins a close one 82-79.

** Final score Plattsburgh 82 Brockport 81

Again I almost came up with a perfect score as I nailed the Cardinals' 82 and Port got a 3 pointer that was a tenth of a second from not counting to go from 78 to 81.
This contest was easily the game of the day in the YAC. These teams traded leads throughout but more often than not it was the Golden Eagles playing catchup with the Cards. The first half saw 11 lead changes and 4 ties before the Cardinals finally broke on top. The Cardinals were down 29-27 with 6:02 to play when Kalik Parker came off the bench and buried three 3 pointers in a row for the Cards to give them the lead at 36-30. After Brockport cut it to 36-33 Parker drained another 3 pointer and the Cards got a hoop and harm from John Perez to make it 42-35. A Brockport triple by John Ivy and 2 more free throws by Perez made it a 44-38 Plattsburgh advantage at the break. Brockport scored the 1st 5 points of the 2nd period to cut it to 1 but the Cards used an 8-1 spurt to go back up 54-46 for the games largest lead to that point with 15:34 to play. The Cards would open up the biggest lead of the game helped by 6 points from Shamoy McIntosh as they went in front 67-56 with 11:35 left. Back came the Golden Eagles with 11 unanswered points fueled by a pair of triples from Jordan Major and another 3 pointer plus a layup from Brandon Caruthers. Brockport would regain the lead at 71-69 on a layup by Matt Lee but the Cards would score 9 straight points, 4 by McIntosh and 3 by Perez, to go in front 78-71 with 2:08 to play. Brockport would close to within 2 at 78-76 with 30 seconds left. The Cards then went 3 of 4 from the line to make it 81-76. Port's Dorian Hayden got a layup with 8 seconds left to make it a one possession game and the Eagles fouled freshman Ed Correa on the inbounds pass. Correa went to the line to try and make it a 2 possession game. After missing the first, the rookie made a huge free throw and the Eagles could only get off a 3 pointer at the buzzer by John Ivy that was good to make the final a 1 point game.

Plattsburgh placed 4 players in double digits led by John Perez with a double-double of 17 points and 15 rebounds before fouling out with 3:32 left to play. Shamoy McIntosh had 15 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. Kalik Parker hit some huge 3 pointers and ended up 5x9 from downtown for 15 points. Parker also had 5 rebounds and 3 blocked shots in 22 minutes of action. Ezra Hodgson also scored 15 points for the Cards. Point guard Chris Manning only scored 5 points but once again filled up the stat sheet with 9 rebounds, 7 assists, and 2 steals. Freshman Ed Correa had 9 points in 14 minutes with a pair of 3 pointers. Plattsburgh shot 29x71 from the field (40.8%), 8x23 from the 3 point line (34.8%) and 16x24 from the foul line (66.7%) They edged the Eagles on the boards 44-43 and only had 9 turnovers to 12 for Brockport.
Brockport was led by John Ivy who was the game's high scorer with 21 points. Ivy also had 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Brandon Caruthers the newest Golden Eagle continues to make his presence felt as he totaled 15 points. Matt Lee had a double-double of 13 points and 12 rebounds, while Lance Legister also had 13 points. Jordan Major had 10 points and 5 rebounds going 3x5 from downtown. Brockport shot 29x66 from the field (43.9%), 15x38 from downtown (39.5%) and only 8x18 from the line (44.4%). That may have cost them this game.

Plattsburgh joins 3 other teams in 2nd place with a 4-2 conference record (8-5 overall). Brockport sees it's 6 game winning streak come to an end and is now 3-3 in the YAC (8-5 overall) and tied with Buffalo State for 6th place, the final playoff position.

Plattsburgh is off until next weekend when they host New Paltz and Oneonta on Friday and Saturday.
Brockport will travel to Fredonia on Tuesday to take on the Blue Devils.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
  Tough weekend in the 315!!  Cortland smacks my beloved BENGALS. From Start to finish it was a superior job by the Red Dragons. One encouraging thing was the play of the 2nd liners...Brad Doyley, Peter Murphy, Chris Boyd, Kojo Mensah, Chris Castren and Leon Moise. These young men were a bright light in an other wise dim day at Cortland.

  Must also say kudo's do whomever does the stats for Cortland. One of the BENGAL coaches told me that this was the first road game where they had no disputes at half time about the stats. I must let Franelia know to commend the stats folks...they do a pretty good job :D. Music is not as good as Postdam though ???

  Decided to stick around for the Oswego game today (great friday night rate at the Hilton garden Inn..includes a buffet breakfast ;D ). Another slow start for my BENGALS who fought back and got within 3 by halftime. That was short lived as Oswego came out and scored the first 13 points of the second half. That promtped a complete substitution and the 2nd liners came in (see Cortland notes for names) and fought extremely hard and did not let the Oswego lead grow any larger.

With the starters rested and playing good, Buff State got the Oswego lead down to 5 with 1:49 left. But 1 turnover at the 1:03 mark with Gilkes scoring afterwards,  followed by another BENGAL turnover at the 50 second mark...did my BENGALS in.

  Kudos to both Cortland and Oswego. Any trips to the 315 will certainly be stressful for the rest on the 'Yac!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 13, 2013, 12:23:31 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2013, 11:56:53 PM
  Must also say kudo's do whomever does the stats for Cortland. One of the BENGAL coaches told me that this was the first road game where they had no disputes at half time about the stats. I must let Franelia know to commend the stats folks...they do a pretty good job :D. Music is not as good as Postdam though ???

Thanks Bengalsrule for the kind words. While I'm on the keyboard for the games, I'm only as good as my spotter, and he's been doing a nice job this year. I'll let him know his good work has been noticed. I will also agree that our music is awful - we're trying to work on it, but not good so far...

More importantly, thanks for stopping over and saying hi - it was nice meeting you. Best of luck the rest of the season, and keep up the good posts (Magicman too!!). I don't post here too often, but I do enjoy reading about what's happening throughout the league.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 13, 2013, 07:04:59 PM
Any ideas on who will be player of the year and First team in the SUNYAC?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 13, 2013, 08:07:38 PM
Hayden Ward is POY at this point.

First team is Rod Epps, Jesse Winter, Matt Devine, Connor Fedge, John Ivy

Curtis Pierce deserves 1st team, but Bears have to start winning some games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2013, 11:59:02 AM
I must admit...the Hayden I saw Saturday looked every bit of a POY! Were roughly at the 1/3rd mark of the season so hopefully that All Sunyac stuff will become clearer in the days/ weeks to come. Interesting team you have there Bear!!

Ive seen all up close this season but Fedge (tonite) and Ivy (next week).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on January 15, 2013, 12:47:29 PM
Nice to see Shereef Taylor get the nod for 'YAC POW...when the kid wants to turn it on - he is one of the most athletic players in all of DIII.

Thanks @thebear for giving the nod to Devine - while his stat line may not be as lights out as last year - the kid is such a leader both on and off the court. Many more hands capable of handling the ball this year @ NP vs. last year. Devine looked like the old Matt vs. Cortland though - he is deserving in my book!!

A little hesitant to comment on Oswego/Hayden Ward until we see them next Tuesday - competition has been really tight all around in the 'YAC this year - but Oswego's out of conference schedule is a joke compared to everyone else's...a little too early to give it to Ward - Oswego played well this weekend against Buff - but I think Buff is the better team.

We'll see next Tuesday!! Also gearing up for one tough weekend in North Country- should be interesting to see how that turns out! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2013, 02:38:54 PM
New Paltz G/F Shareef Taylor was selected as the SUNYAC PLayer of the Week for the week ending 1-13.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

"Taylor averaged 20.0 points per game and 7.5 rebounds per game in a 2-0 week for the Hawks. He also shot 53.6 percent from the floor off 15-of-28 shooting and was 5-of-6 from the line (83.3 percent). Taylor scored 22 points in New Paltz's 77-70 win over SUNY Cortland on Tuesday, adding nine rebounds, one assist, one steal and one block. He followed that up with 18 points against SUNY Oneonta on Saturday, as New Paltz won, 79-70. His stat line also included six boards, four steals, three assists and one block. Taylor, who is averaging 18.5 points per game for the season and leads the team in blocked shots per game with 0.8 and steals per game with 2.3, helped the Hawks push their record to 6-7 overall and 4-2 in the SUNYAC."

While I agree with most of thebear's selections for SUNYAC awards (at the present time) there's still a lot of hoops left to play yet, that will determine the final All Conference teams.

If I had to choose a player from New Paltz though, I would probably pick Shareef Taylor over Matt Devine.  Taylor has scored almost as many points as Devine...241 to 259 for Devine and has done so in basically a game and a half of less playing time, 444 total minutes for Devine, 386 for Taylor. Devine has 91 rebounds (7.0 rpg) to 79 for Taylor (6.1rpg). Taylor has twice as many assists... 26 to 13, twice as many steals...30 to 14, three times as many blocks...11 to 3 and only committed 23 turnovers to 39 for Devine. Taylor has shot 88x156 from the field (53.0%) while Devine has went 86x203 (42.4%). Taylor has more field goals than Devine while taking 47 less attempts. Three point shooting and free throw percentage is slightly in favor of Devine. He is 30x79 from downtown (38.0%) and 57x70 from the line (81.4%). Taylor is 21x59 from long range (35.6 %) and 44x55 from the line (80.0%). Taylor also leads Devine in offensive rebounds with 23 to 16. It was Taylor who hit a huge 3 pointer with 57 seconds left in the Cortland game that gave New Paltz the lead for good last week in their biggest victory of the season. It was Taylor again the next night against Oneonta also. When the Red Dragons came from behind to pull within 2 at 70-68, Taylor made 3 straight baskets down the stretch to open up the daylight that the Hawks needed to close out Oneonta. Both Devine and Taylor have had great seasons so far and I'm sure both will receive All Conference awards, I just like Taylor's overall stats a little better than Devine's. He fills up the stat sheet in more ways. Having said that though, it won't surprise me at year's end to see Devine on the 1st team and Taylor on the 2nd team. A higher scoring and rebounding average usually trumps all the other stats that make up a complete player.       

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2013, 05:04:54 PM
Three games tonight in SUNYAC action:

Utica College at Potsdam State    7:00 PM

Both teams struggling this year and it doesn't look like either team will make their conference playoffs. Bears with a 4-8 record look to rebound from a 3 game losing streak, all on the road against solid teams. Utica is coming off a loss to E8 contender Nazareth where they played the Golden Flyers fairly even for 35 minutes before Nazareth finally opened up some daylight to win 89-81. Pioneers 2-7 in their last 9 games but the wins were against lowly Alfred (3-11) and winless Houghton (0-14). Bears broke a 4 game losing streak against Utica last year down there and now look to start a streak of their own against the Pioneers. Point spread has the Bears favored by 9 but I think it may be a bit closer than that. I'll go with Potsdam 79-74.

Brockport at Fredonia 8:00 PM

Brockport, winners of 6 of their last 7, but the loss last Saturday was a tough one to swallow, at home against Plattsburgh, 82-81. It bumped the Golden Eagles out of a tie for 2nd and into a tie for 6th, the final playoff spot. Fredonia has lost 4 of their last 5 and the losses were all in conference play. The Blue Devils now find themselves in a tie for last place. After 2 double digit losses last weekend on the road, they hope for a better result tonight at home. It might be better, but the result will still be the same...another conference setback. Pointspread has Brockport favored by 5 points. I'll be surprised if it's that close. Eagles only 2-3 on the road (1-0 on a neutral court) but against better competiton than they'll face tonight. Fredonia 4-1 at home but 3 of those wins come against teams with a combined record of 6-34. I think the Golden Eagles will come away with an 82-73 win.

Geneseo State at Buffalo State  8:00 PM

Bengals coming off a lost weekend will need a win tonight to get back into the conference race. They've fallen from a 1st place tie into a 6th place tie and a loss tonight could put them into sole possession of 7th place. I don't think they had that in mind after two decent wins over the holiday break. 1st place Geneseo is looking to open up a little more daylight on the rest of the pack. Oddsmakers have the Bengals favored by 3 points but they don't know about the Bengals recent woes in the frontcourt. Clearly in my mind, Buffalo State comes into this game a decided underdog. With the loss of 6'7" big man Anyar Majak and 6'3" G/F Maurice Miles the Bengals find themselves shorthanded when they can least afford to be in that position. Geneseo is the 4th straight conference game in which the Bengals will face a probable playoff team and they are 0-3 in that stretch. The Blue Knights have won 7 of their last 8 with only a road loss to Brockport in that span. They are coming off a weekend sweep of the North Country teams and a victory here would really put them in the driver's seat nearing the halfway mark of conference play. Hard to pick against them when the Bengals will not be at their best. But that's just what I'm going to do. I think the Bengals, with their backs to the wall in conference play, will scratch and claw their way to an 85-82 win. In order to pull this one off they will a superb effort from their backcourt duo of Jake Simmons and Rod Epps. I'm sure there will be at least 5 other YAC head coaches hoping I'm right with this prediction tonight. ;D         

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2013, 08:28:35 PM
Potsdam held a 35-23 lead over Utica College at the half. It's now 63-55 Potsdam with 7:22 left in the game.

Potsdam's Mark Lake has 18 points so far and Colin Peterson has 14. Bears big man Rob Duquette went down with 5:32 left in the first half. He went to the hoop and scored on a layup but was hit and was down for quite a while. He hasn't played since. Hope it's not anything serious.

Buffalo State leading Geneseo 40-37 with 2:37 left in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2013, 08:45:40 PM
Buffalo State 42 Geneseo 42 at the break.

Rod Epps with 15 and Jake Simmons with 13 to lead the Bengals. Gordon Lyons with 10, Ryan Riefenhauser and Connor Fedge with 7 each for Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
Fredonia State outscores Brockport 10-5 over the last 5 minutes of the half to go into the locker room up 34-33. Actually livestats made a mistake and didn't show a Brockport basket that was made at the buzzer. 10 minutes later live stats shows the halftime score to be Brockport 35 Fredonia 34.

Tyrone Clark leads Fredona with 11 points. Jordan Major tops Brockport with 9.

It's a final in Potsdam as the Bears win 79-66 over Utica College. I nailed the Bears total right on the button but the Pioneers only scored 11 points in the final 9:27 of the game to come a bit short of the 74 I thought they would get.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 15, 2013, 08:57:27 PM
Bears win 79-66 Mark lake Jr with 18, Curtis Pierce with a double double with 16 points and 10 rebounds.

No word on extent of Duquette's injury, but Bears got quality minutes from Jr. Brandon Williams and fr. Tariq McIntyre in the stretch.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2013, 09:51:20 PM
Final scores :

Brockport 85 Fredonia 64

Geneseo 79 Buffalo State 70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2013, 09:18:43 AM
Can understand why Bengalsrules is on the quiet side today, but Magic (he said with tongue in cheek, of course)? You still at the keyboard describing the twists and turns?

In a nutshell, Buff State at home keeping its horns just barely above water and leading Geneseo 68-65 with about 4-and-a-half minutes to play .........then poof ........Bengals scoreless till a bucket at the buzzer!

Am sure we'll hear more .....

And, yes, Jdex a tad quiet himself of late .........Bengalsrule in Albany .....Jdex in Cancun! Yeah, nice life ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2013, 11:46:40 AM
I am actually in Albany Ny for my annual Election Commssioners Winter Conference. Been here since Monday. Silence has been because I  havent gotten an opportunity to talk to those who were at the game. Undoubtly going scoreless for the final "X" Mins didn't help our cause.

I'd like to think that if I was at the sports arena last night....then we would have won. I have no doubt that my beloved BENGALS fought hard and would like to have won.

I imagine that today the BENGALS are working on  beating
Fredonia this Sat.

No doubt that I love my Bengals and win or lose you will undoubtly hear from Bengalsrule.

GO BENGALS!!

p.s.  Magicman I sure wish we could have made your prediction right last night!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2013, 07:04:04 PM
Four games on tap tonight in the conference. All start at 8:00 PM

Geneseo State at Cortland State

Someone has to slow the Blue Knights down. The Red Dragons need to win this game or they will not only fall 2 1/2 games behind but will lose any tie breakers with Geneseo. The teams have split their past 4 meetings.  Oddsmakers have Cortland Favored by 8 points. That may be too much. I see the Red Dragons winning a close one here  74-70.

Oneonta State at Potsdam State

Bears looking to win 2 in a row for only the 2nd time this year. They really need a conference win streak in a hurry to have any hope of making the playoffs. Oneonta playing better than their 2-10 record would suggest. Both teams are 1-5 in YAC play and both teams have yet to win a conference game on the road. Teams have split their past 12 games and last year both won at home. Point spread favors the Bears by 8 points and I think the home court club will prevail once again. I'll take the Bears 75-69.

Brockport State at Oswego State

Another big game to help sort out the contenders. Lakers need a win to keep pace with the leaders. Golden Eagles need a win to maintain a playoff spot. Lakers already with 2 unexpected losses in conference play can ill afford another home setback. Lakers have won 6 of last 7 meetings including an 81-80 win at Brockport back on December 4th. Point spread favors the home team by 4 and I think it will be a barnburner as well. Lakers will pull it out though, 80-77.

New Paltz State at Plattsburgh State

Hawks come into this game playing their best ball of the season. They've won 2 in a row in the YAC to move into a tie for 2nd with the Cardinals, Lakers, and Cortland. Tonight they will be looking to even their record and get back to the .500 mark at 7-7. Cardinals finally got a win in 2013 beating Brockport on the road 82-81. They opened the year with 3 straight losses, but all were to quality teams. Now they need to protect home court. Cardinals with 2 big road wins, have yet to lose at home but only have played 2 conference games there. Point spread favors Plattsburgh by 6 points. Cards have had the Hawks number over the past 6 years as Plattsburgh has went 13-1 against  New Paltz in that time span. Hawks bring big numbers into tonight's contest and upset possibilites are certainly there. Seniors Shareef Taylor and Matt Devine are both All Conference performers for New Paltz while 6'7" freshman Deveino McRae could be the latest big man to give the Cards problems inside. I think the Cards will be ready though and I see them winning this game 83-76.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2013, 09:38:21 PM

Potsdam 82, Oneonta 62 ......final ....M. Lake Jr. 25 pts(10x14fg), 4 assts for Bears

Cortland 65, Geneseo 58 with 3 minutes left

Oswego 66, Brockport 53 with 7 minutes to go

Plattsburgh 45, New Paltz 38 at the 14 minute mark. Pburgh with 30-28 halftime edge
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2013, 09:58:41 PM
Cortland conquers Geneseo 79-73 to go to 5-2 in the conference. Gens 6-2. J. Smith paces RDragons with 23 pts on 9x14fg shooting (3x8 3s). K. McMahon 16 pts(7x9fg), 6 rebs;p J. Winter 17 pts, 5 assts. Geneseo led by G. Lyons 15 pts, 12 rebs; C. Fedge 15 pts. Corts by 29-26 at halftime and hike to 56-39 with 11:23 left on Smith trey. Gens within six on several occasions including 71-65. Hosts answer all approaches. Finish 27x53 from the field, 9x25 triples. Gens 26x61fg, 3x15 3s and hold 36-27 board advantage. CSt 11-3 overall, Gens 10-5

Corts at Brockport on Saturday, Knights entertain Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2013, 10:17:21 PM
Plattsburgh 75, New Paltz 70, final .......S. McIntosh 23 pts(8x18fg) for the Cards. M. Devine 22 pts, 7 rebs in defeat

Oswego 76,  Brockport 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2013, 11:17:42 PM
Four games on tap tonight in the conference. All start at 8:00 PM

Geneseo State at Cortland State

Someone has to slow the Blue Knights down. The Red Dragons need to win this game or they will not only fall 2 1/2 games behind but will lose any tie breakers with Geneseo. The teams have split their past 4 meetings.  Oddsmakers have Cortland Favored by 8 points. That may be too much. I see the Red Dragons winning a close one here  74-70.

** Final score Cortland 79 Geneseo 73         Not far off from my prediction

Red Dragons avenge earlier loss with a win that wasn't as close as the final score indicates. Cortland with a 29-26 edge at the break opened the 2nd period with a 16-6 run to grab a 45-32 advantage with only 4:28 gone in the half. They would build the lead to 17 at 56-39 on a 3 pointer by Jeremy Smith with 11:42 left to play. Blue Knights slowly chipped away and got it back to single digits but could never get closer than 6 points. Cortland's lead flucuated between 6 and 9 points for the final 8 minutes of the game.
Jeremy Smith with 23 points was the game's high scorer (9x14 fg, 3x8 3's, 2x3 ft). Jesse Winter had 17 points (3x7 fg, 2x4 3's, 9x10 ft) with 5 assists and Kevin McMahon added 16 points (7x9 fg, 2x3 ft) with 6 rebounds.

Geneseo got 17 points from Gordon Lyons, 15 from Connor Fedge, 11 from Ryan Riefenhauser, and 10 from Jordan Jones. James McKenna had 3 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and a block in 22 minutes off the bench.

Red Dragons shot 50.9% from the field (27x53), 36% from long range (9x25) and 66.7% from the line (16x24). They were outrebounded 36 to 27 and had 12 turnovers to 13 for Geneseo.

Geneseo shot 42.6% from the field (26x61), only 20.0% the 3 point arc (3x15) and 72% from the stripe (18x25).

Big win for Cortland and the rest of the league as they bring the Blue Knights back to the pack. Geneseo is still in sole possession of first place but only by a half game over Plattsburgh, Cortland and Oswego. All 4 teams have 2 losses which will make for some interesting games tomorrow.

Cortland 5-2 (11-3 overall) travels to Brockport  to take on the Golden Eagles at 8:00 PM.

Geneseo 6-2 (10-5 overall) will host Oswego State also at 8:00 PM.

 
Oneonta State at Potsdam State

Bears looking to win 2 in a row for only the 2nd time this year. They really need a conference win streak in a hurry to have any hope of making the playoffs. Oneonta playing better than their 2-10 record would suggest. Both teams are 1-5 in YAC play and both teams have yet to win a conference game on the road. Teams have split their past 12 games and last year both won at home. Point spread favors the Bears by 8 points and I think the home court club will prevail once again. I'll take the Bears 75-69.

**Final Score  Potsdam 82  Oneonta 62   Bears scored 7 more Oneonta scored 7 less but it adds up to the 144 that I predicted and I had the winner. ;D

Bears jumped out to an early double digit lead as they opened up with a 19-5 burst right out of the gate. They maintained that margin and still up 14, at 32-18 with 4:30 left in the period they were outscored by the Red Dragons 16-6 to allow them to pull within 4 points at the break 38-34. Just like the 1st period the Bears once again opened with a flourish as they outscored Oneonta 16-4 to open up another 16 point lead, 54-38, after five minutes had gone by. The Red Dragons were never in it from that point on The Bears steadily increased the lead until it reached 24 points at 76-52.
Bears were led by Mark Lake with 25 points (10x14 fg, 2x2 3's, 3x4 ft), 4 assists, 3 rebounds and 3 steals. Curtis Pierce had 11 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists, a steal and a block. Joe Estramonte had 10 points, and Josh Lambert had 9 points with 6 rebounds. Both Zac Adam and Colin Peterson had 8 points each. Good balanced scoring from the Bears tonight. What was impressive about their win was they were able to dominate without the services of big man Rob Duquette, who went down with an injury on Tuesday night against Utica College. No word on how severe his injury is (where's thebear when you need him?) and whether ot not he'll be in uniform for tomorrow's game against New Paltz. Somehow, I doubt that he will be.
Bears shot the ball well tonight going 30x59 from the field (50.8%), 7x16 from downtown (43.8%) and 15x19 (78.9%) from the line. They had 44 rebounds to 32 for Oneonta and had 13 turnovers to 14 for the Red Dragons.

Oneonta was led by Zach Mager with 16 points and 5 rebounds. Frankie Kelly had 14 points 4 assists and 4 rebounds, while Jack Dignan had 11 points.

Potsdam 2-5 (6-8 overall) will host New Paltz on Saturday at 4:00 PM.
Oneonta 1-6 (2-11 overall) will travel over to Plattsburgh for a 4:00 PM game against the Cardinals.   

Brockport State at Oswego State

Another big game to help sort out the contenders. Lakers need a win to keep pace with the leaders. Golden Eagles need a win to maintain a playoff spot. Lakers already with 2 unexpected losses in conference play can ill afford another home setback. Lakers have won 6 of last 7 meetings including an 81-80 win at Brockport back on December 4th. Point spread favors the home team by 4 and I think it will be a barnburner as well. Lakers will pull it out though, 80-77.

** Final score Oswego 76 Brockport 68 
This game was not as close as I thought it would be but I did have the winner and only missed their total by 4 points.

Brockport lives and dies by the 3 pointer and tonight it cost them as they were only 5 for 25 from long distance. It was a closely contested first period, that saw the Lakers pull away from a 25-22 deficit to end the half on 12-3 run and go into the locker room up 34-28. Oswego picked up where they left off when the 2nd period got under way. Kyle Covley scored 8 points to fuel a 15 to 7 Laker burst and a little over 4 minutes into the stanza they had a double digit 14 point lead. The lead grew to 18 before the Golden Eagles whittled it down to single digits late in the game but Oswego was comfortably in control the entire 2nd half.
Lakers got a well rounded effort as they had 5 players in double figure led by Chris Gilkes with 16 points. Hayden Ward with his lowest output of the year of 10 points, but still managed a double-double as he had 10 rebounds as well to lead in that category. Kyle Covley had 12 points and Sean Michele had 10 points with 4 assists. Daniel Ross had 11 points, 7 rebounds, and 4 steals.

John Ivy was the game's leading scorer with 23 points on 9 of 12 from the field. Ivy also had 5 rebounds 2 assists and 2 steals. Brandon Caruthers had 18 points 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 4 blocks. ??? :o (How does a 5'11" guard get 4 blocks in a game?) Oswego won the battle of the boards 37-32. The Lakers had 14 turnovers to 13 for the Eagles.

The Lakers improve to 5-2 (12-2 overall) and will travel to Geneseo for a Saturday night matchup with the Blue Knights at 8:00 PM. The stakes: First Place in the SUNYAC. Geneseo entered the weekend with a game and a half lead over 4 other teams. They could find themselves in 4th place after this weekend if they lose to Oswego.

Brockport falls to 4-4 (9-6 overall) and in sole possession of 6th place in the YAC. They will host Cortland on Saturday night at 8:00 PM in a battle of long range bombers. The over/under for 3 point attempts in this game by both teams is 47.             

New Paltz State at Plattsburgh State

Hawks come into this game playing their best ball of the season. They've won 2 in a row in the YAC to move into a tie for 2nd with the Cardinals, Lakers, and Cortland. Tonight they will be looking to even their record and get back to the .500 mark at 7-7. Cardinals finally got a win in 2013 beating Brockport on the road 82-81. They opened the year with 3 straight losses, but all were to quality teams. Now they need to protect home court. Cardinals with 2 big road wins, have yet to lose at home but only have played 2 conference games there. Point spread favors Plattsburgh by 6 points. Cards have had the Hawks number over the past 6 years as Plattsburgh has went 13-1 against  New Paltz in that time span. Hawks bring big numbers into tonight's contest and upset possibilites are certainly there. Seniors Shareef Taylor and Matt Devine are both All Conference performers for New Paltz while 6'7" freshman Deveino McRae could be the latest big man to give the Cards problems inside. I think the Cards will be ready though and I see them winning this game 83-76.

** Final score Plattsburgh 75 New Paltz 70
Neither team shot particularly well which prevented me from getting close to my predicted score, Did have the winner though which gave me a 14-2 record in the past 8 days.

Plattsburgh led for most of the 1st half by as much as 9 points but every time it looked as though the Cards were going to turn this into a laugher they would let the Hawks back into the game. The Cards held the Hawks top 3 players, Matt Devine, Shareef Taylor and Deveino McRae to a total of 9 points in the first half, yet Plattsburgh only had a 2 point 30-28 lead at the break. The Cards missed 7 layups in the period, several of which were uncontested.  The Hawks opened up the 2nd period with a layup by McRae, a 3 pointer by Devine and another layup by McRae to take a 35-32 lead. The Cards responded by inserting Reggie Williams into the lineup to counter the Hawks' McRae. The move worked as McRae only scored 2 more points the rest of the game. Plattsburgh reacted to their first deficit, since they trailed at 4-3, by reeling off 11 unanswered points to go in front 43-35. Leading the charge was 5 points from Shamoy McIntosh, 4 points from John Perez and a basket and several big rebounds from Williams. The Cardinals would never trail again and the closest the Hawks could get was 3 points on several occasions, the last coming at 54-51 with 9:42 left to play. Another 11-2 run by Plattsburgh put the lead at 65-53 and the Cards maintained a 5 to 10 point lead the rest of the way. A meaningless 3 pointer at the buzzer by Devine made it seem closer than it actually was.

Plattsburgh was led by Shamoy McIntosh who grabbed scoring honors with 23 points (8x18 fg, 3x8 3's, 4x6 ft). John Perez had 12 points (4x13 fg, 4x4 ft), and 8 rebounds. Reggie Williams only scored 6 points but he was definitely the difference maker in this game. The big guy came into the game with the Cards behind and took control of the inside with his rebounding, his defense and his hustle. He ended up with 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal in his 13 minutes on the floor. Point guard Chris Manning did his usual thing and had 5 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals, and a block in 26 minutes. Mike Mitchell, who ran the point in Manning's absence had 6 points, 4 assists and 2 steals in 14 minutes. Kalik Parker had 7 points, 7 rebounds, and 2 blocks in 15 minutes. Cards didn't shoot that well as they were only 23x70 from the field (32.9%). They were 7x21 from long range (33.3%) and 22x29 from the line(75.9%). They won the battle of the boards 47 to 40 and had 19 turnovers to 25 for the Hawks.

New Paltz was led by Matt Devine with 22 points (7x18 fg, 4x8 3's, 4x4 ft) and 7 rebounds. Shareef Taylor had a double-double with 13 points (4x12 fg, 1x5 3's, 4x4 ft) and 10 boards. Taylor Sowah came off the bench to score 13 points (3x5 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x9 ft). Deveino McRae had 7 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and 3 blocks. The Hawks shot 23x59 from the field (39%), 9x23 from long range (39.1%) and 15x19 from the line (78.9%).

Plattsburgh improves to 5-2 (9-5 overall) and will host Oneonta on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM.
New Paltz falls to 4-3 (6-8 overall) and will travel over to Potsdam to face the Bears at the same time on Saturday.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2013, 03:25:50 PM
Full slate of games today in the SUNYAC:

Pressed for time, here are some quick picks.

New Paltz State at Potsdam State  4 PM

Potsdam's  modest win streak will end today with no Rob Duquette going for the Bears. Oddsmakers have Potsdam favored by 1. Hawks rebound from yesterday's loss and win this one 84-78.

Oneonta State at Plattsburgh State   4  PM

Plattsburgh's hoping to move into 1st place if Geneseo falters later today. Cards are favored by 15 and that seems to be a good number, but I think they win by a bigger margin. Plattsburgh wins 86-64.

Cortland at Brockport  8 PM

Red Dragons and Golden Eagles could hoist more 3 point attempts between them, than fg's inside the arc. Oddsmakers have made Cortland a 3 point favorite. Port could definitely pull off the upset here on their home court but I don't think they will. Red Dragons win this one 76-71.

Oswego State at Geneseo State  8 PM

Lakers looking for a share of first place. Blue Knights looking to stay out of 4th. Point spread has Geneseo favored by 5 points and they will probably win this game but I think I'm going with the Lakers to pull off the upset here and tighten the conference race up even further. I think Hayden Ward will have a big game and the Lakers walk out of Alumni Fieldhouse with a 71-68 win.

Fredonia State at Buffalo State  8 PM

Bengals need to break their losing streak. Along comes Fredonia just what the doctor ordered. Blue Devils also on a losing streak but get no relief tonight. Point spread has the Bengals favored by 13. Even a short-handed Buffalo State team should take this one and hope that Cortland wins at Brockport to give the Bengals, at least temporarily, the final playoff spot. Buffalo State wins 86-67. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2013, 06:48:48 PM
Final scores:

Potsdam State 105 New Paltz 95 in double OT.

Plattsburgh 82 Oneonta State 75.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2013, 08:45:07 PM
Cortland's J. Smith lands triple at 0:13 supplying RDragons with 49-48 halftime lead at Brockport. Smith with 12 pts(4x5fg), J. Winter 14 pts(5x6fg). Corts 19x31fg, 5x10 3s, Bports 18x33fg, 8x16 3s. M. Lee 9 pts(3x3 3s), J. Ivy 8 pts for Eagles

Buffalo St. 45, Fredonia 43 at the break. J. Simmons 22 pts for BS which shoots 15x31fg, 5x10 3s to Freds 15x29fg

Geneseo 30, Oswego 18 halftime. Oswego 6x26fg ......H. Ward 4 pts(1x3fg), 0pf. Gens 13x29fg, C. Fedge 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2013, 08:53:56 PM
Geneseo leads Oswego 30-21 with 17:50 to go in the 2nd half. C'mon Lakers get it together.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
Geneseo about ready to close out Oswego

Buffalo St. 76, Fredonia 70. J. Simmons with 38 pts with 6:25 left. Simmons 13x17 from the field, 7x9 3s

Cortland up 93-82 with 2' left. J. Smith 30 pts. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 19, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
Geneseo 61, Oswego 51 ......Lakers 17x57fg, H. Ward 15 pts .......  Gens G. Lyons 15 pts, 10 rebs, C. Fedge 14 pts, R. Riefenhauser 7 assts

Cortland 102, Brockport 83. Corts shoot lights out as in 38x63 from the field, 8x20 3s. J. Smith 35 pts on 14x18 fg accuracy, 4x8 3s, 5 rebs. J. Winters 21 pts(6x8fg, 0x1 3s), 9x12ft, 3 stls, 4 assts; K. McMahon 12 pts, 7 rebs; B. Manning 13 pts(5x10fg), H. Hefele 11 pts; L. Herron 10 pts. Bport matches CSt hot shooting in early stages, but fades. Eagles 29x61fg, 11x26 3s. J. Ivy 25 pts(9x18fg); L. Legister 13 pts

Buffalo St. withstands Fredonia rush to the finish line as Bengals win 87-85. J. Simmons explodes for 42 pts on 14x19 field shooting including 7x9 3s, 7x9ft, 4 rebs. Freds within final pair on Z. Edwards' two FTs at 0:20. BS misses FT pair thereafter but Freds evidently don't get final bid. Edwards 21 pts in defeat, T. Clark 20 pts, A. Billups 16 pts, O. Kashmer 14 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2013, 09:49:05 PM
Brad Doyley steals the ball with 2 seconds left as Fredonia was coming down with a chance to win it or tie and Buffalo State holds on for an 87-85 win. Jake Simmons with 42 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2013, 05:49:40 AM
Plattsburgh 82 Oneonta 75

The Cardinals tried hard to give this one away but in the end Coach Curle wouldn't let them. A tongue lashing during a timeout straightened out the team. Then the smallest guy on the floor entered the game and scored 14 points down the stretch to make sure that Oneonta wouldn't pull off another big upset at the Cardinals' expense.

Cardinals went in front early, after Oneonta opened the scoring, on back to back buckets by John Perez. Oneonta tied it at 4 and then the Cardinals were off to the races as they quickly opened up a double digit lead. They slowly increased their advantage until the were up 28-13 which would be the largest lead of the game. Yesterday's leading scorer Shamoy McIntosh, once again got the Cards going, as he buried a pair of triples and scored 8 points during that stretch. To Oneonta's credit the Red Dragons refused to fold and cut into the Plattsburgh lead. They got within 6 at 36-30 with a minute to go in the half, but the Cards Ezra Hodgson hit a three pointer and was fouled in the process. He made the and one for a rare 4 point play to once again make it a 10 point lead. The Cards got the ball back after an Oneonta turnover and as they held it for a final shot they turned it over with 3 seconds left. Rushing upcourt, Oneonta's Zach Mager threw up a prayer from over 30 feet as the buzzer went off...nothing but net, and the Cards went into the break only up 7, 40-33, when it could have been a 12 or 13 point lead. The Cardinals did bump the lead back to double digits shortly after the 2nd half started and for the first 8 minutes the lead would flucuate between 5 and 10 points. Oneonta got a pair of 3 pointers to slice the lead to 55-53 and seconds later got a turnover which prompted the Plattsburgh coach to call a time out. It wasn't pretty as he ripped into the team for their blame game tatics and overall careless play. Several minutes later with 9:49 left to play, backup point guard Mike Mitchell was inserted into the game and the 5'8" sophomore responded with a 3 pointer 15 seconds later. He would go on to score a total of 14 points in the final 9 minutes, a career high for him, and none were bigger than a driving layup right after Oneonta had retaken the lead at 65-64. The Red Dragons came right back however and retook the lead again on a layup by Jackson Zuvic, but Mitchell was huge once again with another long range bomb that gave the Cards the lead for good. Consecutive layups by McIntosh and Hodgson after 2 Oneonta turnovers gave Plattsburgh the daylight they needed at 73-67 and they closed out the Red Dragons by breaking their press for 2 easy baskets and hitting 5 of 6 free throws down the stretch.

Plattsburgh really played poorly for most of the game. They started out in fine form but getting that early lead seemed to make them complacent and they certainly have lacked a killer instinct. Both games on Friday and Saturday should have never been as close as they ended up. To the opponents credit both teams played well at times and fought back from double digit deficits, but the Cardinals seemed to lose focus and missed so many easy shots that it left us spectators shaking our heads in amazement. We won't be so lucky if we play like that in the upcoming stretch of 5 road games.

Shamoy McIntosh was a bright spot over the weekend as he once again led the Cardinals in scoring with 18 points (7x13 fg, 2x6 3's, 2x2 ft). Shamoy also had 6 rebounds and 6 assists. He should certainly get some major consideration for the SUNYAC Player of the Week award. Ezra Hodgson had 17 points (7x11 fg, 2x3 3's, 1x3 ft), 5 rebounds and 2 blocks. Mike Mitchell was nearly perfect as he had 14 points on 3x3 from the field, 2x2 from long range and 6x7 from the line. He clearly was the difference maker today. John Perez had 8 points and 6 rebounds, while Chris Manning had  5 rebounds, 5 assists and 9 steals. Plattsburgh had a better shooting effort today than yesterday as they were 28x57 from the field (49.1%), 9x20 from 3 point range (45%), and 17x25 from the line (68%). They had 32 rebounds to 26 for Oneonta and 14 of those rebounds were on the offensive end resulting in 11 2nd chance points. Both teams were sloppy with the ball as Ononta had 22 turnovers and the Cardinals had 18. The Cards got 25 points off those turnovers while limiting the Red Dragons to only 9 points off the Plattsburgh miscues.

Oneonta also had 3 players in double figures led by an outstanding game by Zach Mager. Mager grabbed scoring honors with 26 points (8x14 fg, 1x4 3's (the 1st half buzzer beater) 9x10 ft), 8 rebounds and 3 assists. Only a sophomore, he'll be an All Conference performer before his career is done. Jackson Zuvic is another young player with great potential. The freshman forward had 15 points ( 7x10 fg, 1x3 3's). Frankie Kelly last year's Rookie of the Year had 10 points (4x6fg, 1x2 3's, 1x2 ft), with 9 assists and 4 rebounds. Dan Lee had 8 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals. Dragons shot 26x49 (53.1%), 6x17 from downtown (35.3%) and 17x23 from the line (73.9%)

Plattsburgh ups their conference record to 6-2 (10-5 overall) and is still tied for 2nd place but the 5 way tie for 2nd that existed 10 days ago has now been narrowed to Plattsburgh and Cortland. Those Red Dragons do hold a tiebreaker over the Cardinals but we'll try and take care of that on Feb. 15th. Cards will next travel over to their North Country neighbor and rival, Potsdam State, for a matchup with the resurgent Bears on Tuesday the 22nd.

Oneonta slips to 1-7 in the YAC (2-12 overall) and will host the battle of the Red Dragons as Cortland comes to town on Tuesday. These Red Dragons may be 2-12 but they are one of the best 2-12 teams you'll ever see. I can see now, how they upset Oswego State 12 days ago. They will pull off another before the season is over. Next year they will be a solid contender if all those young players stay healthy and return to school.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 20, 2013, 04:08:45 PM
Kudos go out to Curtis Pierce, who moved into the top 10 ranks of Potsdam basketball scorers over the weekend. 

Joins some pretty fair ballplayers; Steve Babiarz, Derek Rowland, Ed Jachim, Brendan Mitchell (D-III POY), Andre Peterson, Mike Deane, Leroy Witherspoon (only 2X D-III POY), Damon Brown, and Ted Bence, and displacing the great Mo Woods from the top 10.

Congrats to Curtis, he has been a leader and solid citizen since the day he arrived at Potsdam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 20, 2013, 06:54:23 PM
Curtis Pierce would have played quality minutes under Jerry Welsh and those teams from the 80's.  He will be first team SUNYAC.  The Bears have brought back the Maxcy Magic this year, only 1 home loss.  I believe this team will make a run in the SUNYAC schedule and then the playoffs.  They hit the century mark on Saturday, it took 2OT's.  Its been a long time since I've seen a score like that.  They didn't roll over but made a run and overcame everything New Paltz brought.  Look forward to more quality basketball from the North Country.  GO BEARS!!!




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2013, 07:01:26 PM
+1 for Curtis!!

I could insert "BENGALS" in the beginning of magicman's description of the Plattsburgh game. They too sure tried to "give this 1 away"! 2 intentional fouls, the 2nd 1 coming with 20 seconds left and my BENGALS  up by 4 (go figure). Fredonia made the 2 free throws but couldn't add anything else!!

I was definitly encouraged by the continued good play of Seth Runge (15 pts- 7 boards) who has had to step up big time and freshman Bradley Doyley who went 7-7 from the stripe. Jake Simmons was...... Jake Simmons. And we needed everyone of his 42 points to pull this 1 out!

Brockport in 49 hours (at Brockport   >:( ). Jake Simmons against the "Rochester 6" ( 6 kids from Rochester, on Brockports team, where Jake played High school ball). That usually makes for an interesting game when that "reunion" takes place. A win puts my BENGALS at 5-4 and in the top half of SUNYAC at the midway point. 4 straight home games after that vs. Plattsburgh. Potsdam, Oswego and Cortland.

Love the 'Yac :D

Go BENGALS!!!! ;)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 20, 2013, 09:18:47 PM
At the midway point in the SUNYAC I think after Geneseo had a mild upset against Oswego. I still think Oswego and Cortland are the 2 best teams in this league. the 6 teams that will get into the Sunyac Championships all have a chance to upset and win this league and get an NCAA bid. This league could possible have 3 teams in the NCAA tournament. If Cortland and Oswego stay with 3,4,5 losses they wll get an at large if they dont win their conference tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 21, 2013, 08:10:46 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 20, 2013, 09:18:47 PM
At the midway point in the SUNYAC I think after Geneseo had a mild upset against Oswego. I still think Oswego and Cortland are the 2 best teams in this league. the 6 teams that will get into the Sunyac Championships all have a chance to upset and win this league and get an NCAA bid. This league could possible have 3 teams in the NCAA tournament. If Cortland and Oswego stay with 3,4,5 losses they wll get an at large if they dont win their conference tournament.

That's be nice, but I think either Cortland or Oswego have to win out and lose in the conference championship for the SUNYAC to get 2 bids.  There are a lot of good teams out there
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 21, 2013, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 21, 2013, 08:10:46 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 20, 2013, 09:18:47 PM
At the midway point in the SUNYAC I think after Geneseo had a mild upset against Oswego. I still think Oswego and Cortland are the 2 best teams in this league. the 6 teams that will get into the Sunyac Championships all have a chance to upset and win this league and get an NCAA bid. This league could possible have 3 teams in the NCAA tournament. If Cortland and Oswego stay with 3,4,5 losses they wll get an at large if they dont win their conference tournament.

That's be nice, but I think either Cortland or Oswego have to win out and lose in the conference championship for the SUNYAC to get 2 bids.  There are a lot of good teams out there

I will be in town and hoping I can catch the Cortland-Oswego game Saturday... looking forward to a good match-up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 21, 2013, 07:21:47 PM
what brings you to Oswego this weekend Dave?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2013, 07:22:15 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 21, 2013, 04:05:30 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 21, 2013, 08:10:46 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 20, 2013, 09:18:47 PM
At the midway point in the SUNYAC I think after Geneseo had a mild upset against Oswego. I still think Oswego and Cortland are the 2 best teams in this league. the 6 teams that will get into the Sunyac Championships all have a chance to upset and win this league and get an NCAA bid. This league could possible have 3 teams in the NCAA tournament. If Cortland and Oswego stay with 3,4,5 losses they wll get an at large if they dont win their conference tournament.

That's be nice, but I think either Cortland or Oswego have to win out and lose in the conference championship for the SUNYAC to get 2 bids.  There are a lot of good teams out there

I will be in town and hoping I can catch the Cortland-Oswego game Saturday... looking forward to a good match-up.

d-mac,
Lucky you!! I think it will be a good matchup. Wish I could join you and say hello but the 4+ hour trip is a little too far. I will be watching the game online however. Make sure and sit right behind the Laker's bench where we can get a good look you during the timeouts! ;D I think it might be a tough game for Oswego though. I'm picking Cortland to win a close one 75-72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 22, 2013, 12:18:54 AM
Well I am making a 5:30 drive to be there for that and other sporting event (which is why I am in town)... so why are you slacking at not driving 4? :)

Well... too bad I will miss you. No guarantees where I will be sitting... depends on what I want to take in - plus try and take some pictures.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 01:11:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 22, 2013, 12:18:54 AM
Well I am making a 5:30 drive to be there for that and other sporting event (which is why I am in town)... so why are you slacking at not driving 4? :)

Well... too bad I will miss you. No guarantees where I will be sitting... depends on what I want to take in - plus try and take some pictures.

My Plattsburgh State Cardinals are taking on Fredonia State at 4 PM and I will be sitting in front of my computer, hoping that the video feed is a decent quality broadcast. Plus I've made that trip to Oswego a number of times back in my college days. The last time was in January of 1970 and a blizzard was whipping off the Lake something fierce that day. I pulled into the parking lot on campus, opened my door and the wind blew it so hard it broke the hinges and sprung the door. I've never been back. ;D Weather forecast for the North Country this weekend is cold,cold, and colder. Bundle up!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 06:39:30 AM
Jake Simmons is up to his old tricks as he was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the 2nd time in the past 4 weeks.

Jake scored 18 points against Geneseo on Tuesday night. He also had 7 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals in 36 minutes

On Saturday against Fredonia he just missed his career high of 43 points as he dropped 42 on the Blue Devils. He added 4 rebounds and 3 steals in 37 minutes.

His 2 game totals were 20x36 from the field (55.5%), 9x15 from downtown (60%), and 11x16 from the line (68.7%). He had 11 rebounds, 3 assists and 5 steals.

I said back on December 14th when he broke the all time Buffalo State scoring record that he had a good chance to break the 2000 point barrier. He now has 1844 points and with at least 10 games left to play he needs to average 15.6 points the rest of the way to hit that seldom seen career total. Too bad Buffalo State had a team cancel out on them earlier in December. Hopefully the Bengals can pick up the pace and make the SUNYAC playoffs to guarantee Jake an 11th game. For the season he's averaging 19.6 points per game. That would project him to end up with around 2040 to 2060 points depending on if the Bengals get a playoff game. Here's hoping this terrific young man attains that coveted honor.

I'm not sure where Jake will end up on the all time SUNYAC scoring list as the SUNYAC record book doesn't look to be very well maintained. The record book shows Geneseo great, Scott Fitch, at the top of the list with 1459 points. It says regular season points. Why they wouldn't include all his games seems strange and I don't know where they got that 1459 total points from because Fitch ended up with 2634 total points and I know he didn't score 1175 points in post season games. At any rate Jake will end up as one of the most prolific scorers in SUNYAC history. It's too bad a conference as old and as great as the YAC doesn't have a record book that's accurate and up to date. Plattsburgh State standout, Anthony Williams who only had a 3 year career scored 1734 points in the league and they show him with 926 points. Oswego's Chad Burridge is nowhere to be found with his 1865 career point total. Sad state of affairs.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

"Jake Simmons averaged 30.0 points in two games, including finishing one point shy of matching career best with 42 points in win over Fredonia. Simmons was 14 of 19 shooting for the game, including 7 of 9 from 3-point range. He shot 56-percent from the field for the week and 60-percent from behind the arc"

Once again I like my writeup better. ;)

It was a heck of week for individual performances in the YAC. here are some Honorable mentions for Player of the Week that would normally be good enough to grab the POTW honors:

Mark Lake from Potsdam State had a pair of big games as he scored 25 points against Oneonta on Friday night in a Bears 82-62 win. He came back with an even bigger effort the next afternoon, scoring 34 points in a double overtime victory against New Paltz to help the Bears extend their winning streak to 3 games, something they hadn't done since January 31st through February 10th of 2009, a span of nearly 4 years. Lake averaged 29.5 ppg as the Bears tried to get back into the playoff race. he was 22x31 from the field (70.9%), 3x5 from 3 point range (60%) and 12x14 from the foul line (85.7%). He grabbed 7 rebounds, had 8 assists and 7 steals.
 
Jeremy Smith from Cortland State scored 23 points against Geneseo on Friday night and followed that up with 35 points against Brockport the next day for an average of 29 ppg as the Red Dragons went 2-0. He was 23x32 from the field (71.8%), 7x16 from long range (43.7%) and 5x6 from the stripe (83.3%). He had 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. 

Shamoy Mcintosh from Plattsburgh State scored 23 points Friday night as the Cardinals defeated New Paltz 75-70 to extend their domination over the Hawks. The next day Shamoy had 18 points to lead the Cards again in a win over Oneonta. He averaged 20.5 points in the 2 games. McIntosh's totals were 15x31 from the field (48.3%), 5x13 from beyond the arc (38.4%) and 6x8 from the line (75%). He added 9 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals. Plattsburgh has probably got the deepest rotation in the conference this year which limits floor time for their starters. It's hard for anyone to put up big numbers like the starters on other teams who routinely average 30+ minutes a game. No starter for the Cards averages more than 26 minutes per game. Seven different players have taken turns leading the Cardinals in game scoring honors and their rotation has 10 players averaging double digit minutes. McIntosh was the first Cardinal player to lead the team in scoring in back to back games all year.

I know there were a few more players who had a decent week but these were the ones that stood out to me and thought they deserved a little ink here on the SUNYAC board.

Big slate of games this evening as all 10 teams are in action. We'll see if the results tighten up the playoff race or create some separation. I'll try to break things down a little later on after I get some sleep. Have to finish my Top 25 Posters' Poll first or Mr. Ypsi will be all over me.     



         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2013, 10:41:46 AM
I know you guys like the Team of the Week:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2012-13/week9
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 11:10:30 AM
The SUNYAC struck it rich this week as SUNYAC PLayer of the Week, Jake Smith, and one of my honorable mention players, Jeremy Smith, got noticed on the big stage as they were both named to the D3hoops Team of the Week for games from Jan. 14th through Jan. 20th. Not sure but this may be the first time that 2 players from the YAC made the Team of the Week for the same time period.

Here's the write ups from the D3hoops front page:

"Jake Simmons
Simmons finished with 42 points in an 87-85 win over Fredonia. In the game he was 14-of-19 from the field and 7-of-9 from 3-point range. He averaged 30.0 points and 5.5 rebounds." (My note: See my previous post for his complete 2 game totals)

"Jeremy Smith
Smith led Cortland with 23 points in a win over SUNYAC leader Geneseo and tallied 35 points, two shy of his career high, in a win at Brockport. He hit 14 of 18 shots vs. Brockport and shot 72 percent from the field over the two games, including 7-for-16 from 3-point range."

Note:
Mark Lake from Potsdam State could just as easily have been the 3rd guard on the Team of the Week with the huge numbers he put up in the Bears 2 wins over the weekend. Actually I think his overall numbers were better than anyone that was on the TOTW. But then that would be terribly greedy of the YAC and also too much to ask. ;)

A nice week for all 3 players. Here's the link to the complete TOTW:  http://d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2012-13/week9 



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 11:16:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2013, 10:41:46 AM
I know you guys like the Team of the Week:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2012-13/week9

Yes we do!!! And I was reading the front page article and typing up my post as you were posting the front page link. ;D Those guys that choose the Team of the Week sure know their stuff. ;)

Pat,  Was Mark Lake nominated, I know you can't load the team with SUNYAC players but just wondered if he was in the mix?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2013, 11:40:41 AM
Those two were the only nominees from the SUNYAC this week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2013, 11:40:41 AM
Those two were the only nominees from the SUNYAC this week.

Thanks Pat.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 07:38:36 PM
All 10 teams in action tonight. All games starting at 8 PM. Too busy today and pressed for time so it'll be some quick picks

Cortland State at Oneonta State

Second place Red Dragons take on the last place Red Dragons. The Cortland variety breathes more fire. Oddsmakers favor Cortland by 15. Oneonta will be hard pressed to keep it that close but I think they could if they play like they did against Plattsburgh last Saturday. Cortland leads this series 8-4 over the past 6 years. They win again 81-64.

Oswego State at New Paltz State

Probably the most one sided series in current SUNYAC history. Lakers have won the last 18 meetings. Tonight could be the Hawks night.
Oswego needs a win to stay in contact with the leaders. New Paltz needs a win to stay in the playoff hunt. Point spread favors the Lakers but only by the slimmest of margins. I also think it will be close and see the Oswego jinx continue as the Lakers walk out of Hawk center with a 79-75 win.

Fredonia State at Geneseo State

The top against the bottom as the 7-2 league leading Blue Knights take on the 1-7 Blue Devils. Someone will be singing the blues when this one is over and it won't be the 16 point favored Geneseo squad. The Blue Knights lead this series 8-5 over the past 6 years and will take this one 82-61.

Buffalo State at Brockport State

Both teams fightng for the final playoff spot at this stage. The Golden Eagles at 4-5 are a half game behind the 4-4 Bengals. Bengals still not playing with a full deck and Brockport always gives them problems. Eagles lead this series 8-5 over the past 6 seasons. Brockport won all three meetings last year...Buff State won all three games the year before that. Eagles favored in this contest by 5. Three point shooting could determine this one. The over/under on long distance attempts is 45. I'll take the over on the 3 pointers hoisted up and think the Eagles will protect home court. Brockport wins a close one 87-83.


Plattsburgh State at Potsdam State

Plattsburgh leads this series 8-3 over the past 6 years but the Bears took it to them last year in Potsdam. Plattsburgh is a better team than last year's version but so to are the Bears. Cards playing better than most on the road with 2 solid wins at Oswego and Brockport. They bring a 6-2 mark into this game and look to stay in the thick of the race. Bears playing well at home against the YAC with a 3-1 record. Potsdam has won 3 in a row and, at 3-5 in the YAC, needs a win to climb back into the playoff picture. Don't know if Bears big man Rob Duquette will be in uniform tonight or not. Injured last week against Utica, he hasn't played since. The injury is unknown to me. (where's "thebear" when you need him..oh out in California probably) He will be missed. Again the point spread is a single point in favor of the Cards. I think their tough non-conference schedule has prepared Plattsburgh for this type of game. I'll take my Cardinals to win 77-71.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 08:39:29 PM
Plattsburgh leads Potsdam 39-38 at the half.

Back and forth 1st period between these 2 teams with Potsdam taking the largest lead at 21-15. Cards would respond with an 14-6 run fueled by 5 points from Shavar Fields and a triples by Ed Correa, Mike Mitchell and Kalik Parker to go back in front 29 -27. The period featured 7 lead changes and 8 ties with the Cardinals Reggie Williams getting a putback at the buzzer to give Plattsburgh the 1 point edge. The Cards got balanced scoring as  John Perez leads them with 8 points. Jordan Moody, Mike Mitchell and Kalik Parker all have 6 points. Shavar Fields has 5 but doesn't show up in the box score on live stats. Reggie Williams has 4 points while Shamoy McIntosh and Ed Correa both have 3.

Bears were led by Mark Lake with 12, Curtis Pierce with 8, Joe Estramonte with 7, Zac Adams with 6, andBrandon Williams with 5. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2013, 08:40:37 PM
Halftime ....

Pburghers largest lead is two .....Potsdam led it by six

Cortland 32, Oneonta 24. OSt by seven early. Corts find range and up by nine before J. Dignan brings Oneonta back. Dignan with 11 pts(4x8fg). L. Herron 8 pts off CSt bench. The cat-quick Herron two seasons ago saw considerable play at New Paltz where he started once. Didn't play last season. Cortland 12x26 from the field thus far, Oneonta 9x25

Brockport 48, Buffalo St. 37 at midway mark. Bport 20x35fg led by B. Caruthers 14 pts(6x7fg) and M. Jordan 12 pts(5x7fg). BS's J. Simmons paces his side with 8 pts(3x4fg)

Oswego 46, New Paltz 46 with 17' left. Lakers' K. Covley 21 pts(8x10fg), Hawks' S. Taylor 19 pts(8x10fg)

Geneseo sees Fredonia make 42-34 approach at 18' to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 08:59:06 PM
Geneseo leads Fredonia 40 to 27 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 09:07:50 PM
Plattsburgh opens the 2nd half with a 21-6 run and now leads the Bears 60-44 with 12:12 to go in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
Plattsburgh blowing the Bears out now 74-47 with 7:39 left to play

New Paltz leads Oswego 71-67 with 4:13 to play

Cortland over Oneonta 47-42 with 8:38 to go.

Brockport over Buffalo 65-49 with 12:44 to play

Geneseo up 67-52 over Fredonia with 6:18 to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
 Barnburner at New Paltz as Oswego leads 79-78 with 51 seconds left.

Final score Oswego wins 80-78.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Cortland defeats Oneonta 64-54

Geneseo beats Fredonia 77-64

Plattsburgh downs Potsdam 85-63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2013, 09:39:20 PM
Cortland downs Oneonta 64-54 although nearly wasting a 16 point lead. OState within 52-49 with just under 6' left. J. Winter picks up visiting CSt RDragons

No quit in OSters who go on 9-0 run to slice Corts 43-27 bulge. Z. Mager, J. Zuvic, F. Kelly pace Oneonta comeback. T. Parker's triple draws hosts within 45-42 at 10 minute mark. Winter calms Cortland nerves on three Oneonta approaches thereafter. Mager free throws pull OSt to 52-49. Winter immediately cashes a layup and accompanying foul toss to begin Cortland pull away. Four points from J. Smith make it 61-49.

Winter winds up with 17 pts(5x9fg, 5x5ft), 4 assts; K. McMahon 16 pts, 11 rebs; Smith 14 pts(6x11fg), 4 assts. CSt 25x47fg, 7x16 3s. Oneonta's Mager with 22 pts(7x13fg, 3x3 3s); J. Dignan 14 pts. OSt 20x51fg, 9x22ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2013, 09:58:24 PM
Brockport defeats Buffalo St. 97-81

Oswego digs itself from 69-61 hole with 6:09 left to win at New Paltz 80-78. Actually, NP held 71-62 edge at 4:53 on S. Taylor layup. Lakers C. Gilkes followed with two FTs and trey before a S. Michele hoop bringing OSt to 71-69. A trade of leads followed. Gilkes lands a 'three' at 1:31 for a 77-75 Oswego lead. At 1:13 NP K. Donovan connects for three and the reversal. At 0:54 twas Michele scoring a layup for a 79-78 OSt lead. He was fouled on the play, misses from the line but grabs the rebound. H. Ward caps the scoring with the first of two FTs at 0:03. Frosh K. Covley pours in 29 pts(10x18fg, 7x14 3s) off the Oswego bench in a 30' stint. His seven treys one off the school record. Gilkes with 16 pts, 5 rebs; H. Ward 9 pts(2x7fg) in 29'. S. Taylor counts 29 pts(11x14fg, 3x6 3s), 3 assts, 6 rebs in 37' in defeat; M. Devine 20 pts, 6 rebs, 3 assts. Oswego 26x65fg, 12x32 3s, 16x23ft. NP 29x56fg, 10x22 3s, 10x12ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 10:41:50 PM
Plattsburgh State 85 Potsdam 63    I predicted a much closer game with my 77-71 score but my total of 148 was right on the button. ;D

The Cardinals came out for the 2nd half and just put it to the Bears, turning a closely contested game into a rout. At the 17:25 mark the score was Plattsburgh 44 Potsdam 42. Two minutes and 22 seconds later it was 56-44 and  it only got worse for the Bears. A 3 pointer by Shamoy McIntosh, a steal by John Perez and a layup by Jordan Moody, were followed by another Perez theft, which he laid in, and after Potsdam misfired on their possession Moody hit another 3 pointer and the lead had quickly ballooned to double digits. McIntosh followed with a steal and a layup, Perez got another layup, and Chris Manning drove for 1 more layup and it was now 62-44. Mark Lake finally stopped the bleeding for the Bears with a jumper but McIntosh buried a 3, Manning scored again and Ed Correa, swished a 3 and scored on a layup and it was 74-47 and the victory cigar was lit with 7:27 left to play. Coach Curle emptied his bench and it was just a question of what the final margin would be.

Plattsburgh was led by John Perez with 16 points (7x9 fg, 2x2 ft),4 rebounds and 4 steals. Jordan Moody had 13 points (5x8 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x2 ft) and Shamoy McIntosh was close behind with 12 (4x8 fg,2x5 3's, 2x3 ft). McinTosh added 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and a block. Freshman Ed Correa came off the bench and totaled 11 points (4x10 fg, 3x7 3's) and 4 rebounds in 12 minutes. Reggie Williams only had 4 points but was the leading rebounder in the game with 9. He added 3 steals and a block in 22 minutes. Both Mike Mitchell and Kalik Parker came off the bench to bury a pair of 3-balls. Shavar Fields doesn't show up in the live stats box score but must have scored 9 points as the box only shows Plattsburgh with 76 total points when they scored 85. The video broadcast from Potsdam is really poor quality. I've watched a number of their broadcasts and the video is herky-jerky full of stops and starts so you never get to see actual live action.  It's similar to when poor weather affects your TV dish and the picture breaks up. Someone needs to work on fixing that.

Plattsburgh shot 28x60 from the field (46.7%), 10x24 from 3 point land (41.7%), and 10x11 from the line (90.9%) I believe their highest free throw percentage in maybe 6 years. They won the battle off the glass 43-36 and had 17 turnovers to 19 for Potsdam.

Potsdam was led by Mark Lake with 17 points (6x8 fg, 2x3 3's, 3x4 ft) and 4 rebounds. Curtis Pierce had 10 points (3x13 fg, 2x9 3's, 2x3 ft) as did Josh Lambert (3x8 fg, 4x5 ft). Zac Adams had 9 points and 5 rebounds, while Brandon Williams had 8 points and 7 rebounds.

The Bears shot 22x60 from the field (36.7%), only 6x21 from downtown (28.6%) and 13x20 from the line (65%).

Plattsburgh improves to 7-2 in the YAC (11-5 overall) at the halfway point of conference play.  They are back on the road this weekend to take on Buffalo State on Friday evening at 8:00 PM and then Fredonia on Saturday afternoon. The Cards remained tied with Cortland for 2nd place,a half game behind Geneseo. Plattsburgh and Geneseo have the best road records in the conference as they are the only teams with 3 road wins. Plattsburgh's game tonight was the 1st of 5 straight conference road games, (who makes up these crazy schedules?), a brutal stretch before they finish with 5 straight home games.

Potsdam falls to 3-6 in conference play (7-9 overall) and stays in sole possession of 8th place. They will follow their travel partner, Plattsburgh, to the western part of the state to face the same two team this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2013, 11:49:00 PM
Went 5 for 5 with my predictions tonight.

Cortland 64 Oneonta 54 

I had this with a much bigger number for the winning Red Dragons with my 81-64 forecast. Only 7 3's for the Cortland boys tonight . Winter or Smith usually get almost that many by themselves. As jdex stated the doldrums set in after that big cushion was built and that held the score down. I witnessed the same thing last weekend when my Cardinals pretty much played the same way. They allowed a big lead to evaporate and Oneonta actually came back and took the lead for several possessions befoe the Cards put them away. And as jdex stated the Oneonta variety of red Dragons don't quit.

Brockport 97 Buffalo State 81

I had Port winning this one  87-83. Close with my Bengal half but the Eagles didn't want stop at 87. I'm saddened by the fact that the Bengals once again at the semester break saw a team with great potential slide down a slippery slope because of personnel problems. After their sweet sixteen run of two years ago, this team was in position to improve on that effort. Both last year and this year Buffalo State played some great basketball over the holidays and gave themselves a chance for a nice season. I really feel for senior Jake Simmons who deserved more  and is now running out of chances. I hope they get some good news in the near future and can turn things around.

Geneseo 77 Fredonia 64

My score of 82-61 was pretty close to the actual finish.  The margin of victory was smaller but my total was only 2 points off the final.

Oswego 80 New Paltz 78

My closest prognostication of the evening as I had Oswego winning  by a 79-75 score. Only 4 points off the real final. That 3 pointer that New Paltz got for their final points of the game was supposed to rim out, as was the front end of Hayden Ward's meaningless 1&1 free throw with 3 seconds left. ;)

7-2 last weekend and 5-0 tonight gives me a 12-2 mark heading into the weekend with 9 more games on tap. Some tough games to pick coming up. I'll really have to polish the crystal ball to get a clear picture of the future. ;)

SUNYAC Standings at the Halfway Mark:

1.   Geneseo       8-2
2.   Cortland       7-2
2.   Plattsburgh   7-2
4.   Oswego        6-3
5.   Brockport     5-5
6.   Buffalo St.    4-5
6.   New Paltz     4-5
8.   Potsdam      3-6
9.   Fredonia      1-8
9.   Oneonta      1-8

The top 4 teams have opened up a little daylight on the rest of the pack. The top 3 teams have opened open a 3 game lead in the loss column on the 5th and 6th place teams which bodes well for them to secure a playoff spot. 9 wins will get you into the playoffs so the top 3 teams could have a less than stellar 2nd half and will still get into the postseason. With the top 2 teams getting a bye this year and then the final four playing at the #1 seed,  after the 3 vs 6, and 4 vs 5 games, it's going to be a dogfight down the stretch to see who gets the home court advantage for the tournament. Unlike previous years there will be no upset of the top seed so that someone else might get to host the final four. Tiebreakers may be huge, once again this year. Oswego with losses already to Geneseo and Plattsburgh will have to turn the tables in their 2nd meeting with both those teams. Likewise for Plattsburgh, who has losses to Geneseo and Cortland.  The next 24 days will be interesting.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2013, 11:59:34 PM
"Momma said there would be days like this" :-[ :'( .  Brockport was a load tonight. Scrappy... run and gun. And tonight it worked against my beloved BENGALS.

No time to mope. Plattsburgh and Potsdam are coming to town this weekend. Gotta  figure out what we did wrong at Plattsburgh/Potsdam and not repeat those same mistakes. 4 of 5 Yac loses have been on the road so far. Hopefully we can return the favor when Plattsburgh, Oswego, Cortland and Brockport come to the 716!

4 -5 at the midway point and tied with New Paltz for 6th (BENGALS own the tiebreaker). Got to get better. This team is better than what they have showed so far. They will get better...You can bet on it! ;)

Go BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 23, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2013, 01:11:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 22, 2013, 12:18:54 AM
Well I am making a 5:30 drive to be there for that and other sporting event (which is why I am in town)... so why are you slacking at not driving 4? :)

Well... too bad I will miss you. No guarantees where I will be sitting... depends on what I want to take in - plus try and take some pictures.

My Plattsburgh State Cardinals are taking on Fredonia State at 4 PM and I will be sitting in front of my computer, hoping that the video feed is a decent quality broadcast. Plus I've made that trip to Oswego a number of times back in my college days. The last time was in January of 1970 and a blizzard was whipping off the Lake something fierce that day. I pulled into the parking lot on campus, opened my door and the wind blew it so hard it broke the hinges and sprung the door. I've never been back. ;D Weather forecast for the North Country this weekend is cold,cold, and colder. Bundle up!!   

Being a native of Chicago and New England... I am ready for it :) I used to walk a paper route in rural Maine in the middle of winter... never asked for a ride from my parents until the temperature dipped to -20 :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2013, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 23, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2013, 01:11:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 22, 2013, 12:18:54 AM
Well I am making a 5:30 drive to be there for that and other sporting event (which is why I am in town)... so why are you slacking at not driving 4? :)

Well... too bad I will miss you. No guarantees where I will be sitting... depends on what I want to take in - plus try and take some pictures.

My Plattsburgh State Cardinals are taking on Fredonia State at 4 PM and I will be sitting in front of my computer, hoping that the video feed is a decent quality broadcast. Plus I've made that trip to Oswego a number of times back in my college days. The last time was in January of 1970 and a blizzard was whipping off the Lake something fierce that day. I pulled into the parking lot on campus, opened my door and the wind blew it so hard it broke the hinges and sprung the door. I've never been back. ;D Weather forecast for the North Country this weekend is cold,cold, and colder. Bundle up!!   

Being a native of Chicago and New England... I am ready for it :) I used to walk a paper route in rural Maine in the middle of winter... never asked for a ride from my parents until the temperature dipped to -20 :).

I did the same thing in rural Northern New York for 6 years. Wasn't it fun? We had afternoon delivery of our newspaper. Got out of school at 3:15, the papers would arrive from Watertown around 3:30. Used to have to run like heck during basketball season as practice started at 5 PM and if you were late the coach made you sit and watch. I had to cover those 4+ miles in a hurry. Had strong legs and great lungs back then. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 23, 2013, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2013, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 23, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2013, 01:11:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 22, 2013, 12:18:54 AM
Well I am making a 5:30 drive to be there for that and other sporting event (which is why I am in town)... so why are you slacking at not driving 4? :)

Well... too bad I will miss you. No guarantees where I will be sitting... depends on what I want to take in - plus try and take some pictures.

My Plattsburgh State Cardinals are taking on Fredonia State at 4 PM and I will be sitting in front of my computer, hoping that the video feed is a decent quality broadcast. Plus I've made that trip to Oswego a number of times back in my college days. The last time was in January of 1970 and a blizzard was whipping off the Lake something fierce that day. I pulled into the parking lot on campus, opened my door and the wind blew it so hard it broke the hinges and sprung the door. I've never been back. ;D Weather forecast for the North Country this weekend is cold,cold, and colder. Bundle up!!   

Being a native of Chicago and New England... I am ready for it :) I used to walk a paper route in rural Maine in the middle of winter... never asked for a ride from my parents until the temperature dipped to -20 :).

I did the same thing in rural Northern New York for 6 years. Wasn't it fun? We had afternoon delivery of our newspaper. Got out of school at 3:15, the papers would arrive from Watertown around 3:30. Used to have to run like heck during basketball season as practice started at 5 PM and if you were late the coach made you sit and watch. I had to cover those 4+ miles in a hurry. Had strong legs and great lungs back then. ;D
I had early morning delivery meaning it was FAR colder... with a Saturday paper for the weekend. I usually was out at 5 AM for my route of 100+ papers during the week and then 8 or 9 AM for the Saturday paper.

I remember the day I came down on a Saturday morning which was very sunny and my dad asked me if I was ready to go... I asked why... he said he had the car running... I seemed perplexed... he told me to check the temp - -40! My usual outfit was two pairs of sweatpants and snow pants, two sweatshirts and a very heavy winter jacket that had a hood that would button up past my nose. I wore a hat underneath as well... I was very warm in that any my multiple layers of socks and boots. But -40 was going to have me easily taking the ride around my route instead of the walk (or bike, if the roads were at least plowed). NUTS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2013, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 23, 2013, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2013, 02:32:13 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 23, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2013, 01:11:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 22, 2013, 12:18:54 AM
Well I am making a 5:30 drive to be there for that and other sporting event (which is why I am in town)... so why are you slacking at not driving 4? :)

Well... too bad I will miss you. No guarantees where I will be sitting... depends on what I want to take in - plus try and take some pictures.

My Plattsburgh State Cardinals are taking on Fredonia State at 4 PM and I will be sitting in front of my computer, hoping that the video feed is a decent quality broadcast. Plus I've made that trip to Oswego a number of times back in my college days. The last time was in January of 1970 and a blizzard was whipping off the Lake something fierce that day. I pulled into the parking lot on campus, opened my door and the wind blew it so hard it broke the hinges and sprung the door. I've never been back. ;D Weather forecast for the North Country this weekend is cold,cold, and colder. Bundle up!!   

Being a native of Chicago and New England... I am ready for it :) I used to walk a paper route in rural Maine in the middle of winter... never asked for a ride from my parents until the temperature dipped to -20 :).

I did the same thing in rural Northern New York for 6 years. Wasn't it fun? We had afternoon delivery of our newspaper. Got out of school at 3:15, the papers would arrive from Watertown around 3:30. Used to have to run like heck during basketball season as practice started at 5 PM and if you were late the coach made you sit and watch. I had to cover those 4+ miles in a hurry. Had strong legs and great lungs back then. ;D
I had early morning delivery meaning it was FAR colder... with a Saturday paper for the weekend. I usually was out at 5 AM for my route of 100+ papers during the week and then 8 or 9 AM for the Saturday paper.

I remember the day I came down on a Saturday morning which was very sunny and my dad asked me if I was ready to go... I asked why... he said he had the car running... I seemed perplexed... he told me to check the temp - -40! My usual outfit was two pairs of sweatpants and snow pants, two sweatshirts and a very heavy winter jacket that had a hood that would button up past my nose. I wore a hat underneath as well... I was very warm in that any my multiple layers of socks and boots. But -40 was going to have me easily taking the ride around my route instead of the walk (or bike, if the roads were at least plowed). NUTS!

Ah..the good old days! ;D The weather forecast here in Plattsburgh is for a minus 15 to 18 tonight but the good news for you is that the North Country is supposed to warm up to around 15 degrees by Saturday during the day and only drop to 0 overnight. A piece of cake for a a Maine lad. ??? Have fun in Oswego. Remember my prediction, Cortland 75 Oswego 72.  I just missed with Oswego's game last night. I had them winning over New Paltz  79-75 and the actual was Oswego 80-78.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2013, 11:29:15 AM
I will keep your score in mind :)... I was actually supposed to be in Canton, NY last weekend... but my trip was canceled... so I will enjoy Oswego :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 24, 2013, 12:04:22 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2013, 11:29:15 AM
I will keep your score in mind :)... I was actually supposed to be in Canton, NY last weekend... but my trip was canceled... so I will enjoy Oswego :)

"Enjoy" and "Oswego"........two words rarely heard together this time of year.......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
LOL - true true.

And a heads up - while I am at Oswego, I will do a sit-down interview with Coach Leone to air on Monday's Hoopsville.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2013, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
LOL - true true.

And a heads up - while I am at Oswego, I will do a sit-down interview with Coach Leone to air on Monday's Hoopsville.

Way to combine work with pleasure. ;D  I'll be sure to tune in.

Plus k to Ethelred for the Oswego joke. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
The entire trip is actually work - the pleasure will be catching a basketball game or two that I wouldn't normally get to :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 24, 2013, 06:27:31 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 24, 2013, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
LOL - true true.

And a heads up - while I am at Oswego, I will do a sit-down interview with Coach Leone to air on Monday's Hoopsville.

Way to combine work with pleasure. ;D  I'll be sure to tune in.

Plus k to Ethelred for the Oswego joke. ;D

In-laws born, raised and schooled there.  Wife graduated in 1977 and daughter in 09.  My first trips were in the winter of 74 in a car I bought in Alabama - not really ready for an Oswego winter.  One time, late at night, I had just gotten north of Fulton when my lights stopped working.  A full moon and more luck than I deserved got me to Oswego where she just gave up the ghost as I coasted to the foot of West Bridge Street.  Ah.....good times.....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2013, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on January 24, 2013, 06:27:31 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 24, 2013, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2013, 01:01:09 PM
LOL - true true.

And a heads up - while I am at Oswego, I will do a sit-down interview with Coach Leone to air on Monday's Hoopsville.

Way to combine work with pleasure. ;D  I'll be sure to tune in.

Plus k to Ethelred for the Oswego joke. ;D

In-laws born, raised and schooled there.  Wife graduated in 1977 and daughter in 09.  My first trips were in the winter of 74 in a car I bought in Alabama - not really ready for an Oswego winter.  One time, late at night, I had just gotten north of Fulton when my lights stopped working.  A full moon and more luck than I deserved got me to Oswego where she just gave up the ghost as I coasted to the foot of West Bridge Street.  Ah.....good times.....

I played on the tennis team for Potsdam State and we had a match at Oswego. It was the spring of 1966, late April-early May. The wind was whipping off the lake so strong that day that when you threw the ball up to serve the wind would carry it about 8 to 10 feet away from you. After about 10 minutes of fighting mother nature the Oswego State coach made arrangements to play the matches indoors in the field house. It was and still is the only time I've ever played tennis indoors.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 24, 2013, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2013, 10:41:50 PM
Plattsburgh's game tonight was the 1st of 5 straight conference road games, (who makes up these crazy schedules?), a brutal stretch before they finish with 5 straight home games.
Potsdam falls to 3-6 in conference play (7-9 overall) and stays in sole possession of 8th place. They will follow their travel partner, Plattsburgh, to the western part of the state to face the same two team this weekend.

I can 1 up you Magic in the "crazy schedules" department out of the Little East.  14 conference games, 2 each against the other 7 teams 1 home, 1 away the usual blah, blah, blah.  Anyways, UMass-Boston started the season with 4 straight road games and 5 of their first 6 LEC games were on the road, and they end the season with 2 straight road games.  In between the two, they have 6 straight at home which their in the middle of right now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
Two of UMass-Boston's first games on the road were at the Hoopsville National Invitational Classic ;)

F&M is wrapping up a stretch where they played 6 of 7 games on the road - 5 of 6 were in the conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on January 25, 2013, 12:56:09 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 24, 2013, 11:36:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2013, 10:41:50 PM
Plattsburgh's game tonight was the 1st of 5 straight conference road games, (who makes up these crazy schedules?), a brutal stretch before they finish with 5 straight home games.
Potsdam falls to 3-6 in conference play (7-9 overall) and stays in sole possession of 8th place. They will follow their travel partner, Plattsburgh, to the western part of the state to face the same two team this weekend.

I can 1 up you Magic in the "crazy schedules" department out of the Little East.  14 conference games, 2 each against the other 7 teams 1 home, 1 away the usual blah, blah, blah.  Anyways, UMass-Boston started the season with 4 straight road games and 5 of their first 6 LEC games were on the road, and they end the season with 2 straight road games.  In between the two, they have 6 straight at home which their in the middle of right now.

Ok.....Rochester is in the middle of playing 6 of 8 on the road with the road games in Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Boston, NY, Chicago and St. Louis.  As much as I like this UofR team, it's hard to imagine completing this stretch undefeated.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 25, 2013, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
Two of UMass-Boston's first games on the road were at the Hoopsville National Invitational Classic ;)

F&M is wrapping up a stretch where they played 6 of 7 games on the road - 5 of 6 were in the conference.

That road stretch was for conference play only.  First 4 LEC games and 5 of first 6 LEC games were on the road, final 2 LEC games are on the road, the remaining 6 in between are all at home.  They just played Tufts on the road last night (their final OOC games of the season) which is their last road game until February 12.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 08:00:44 PM
Four games tonight in SUNYAC play all starting at 8:00 PM. Here's my picks for this evening:

New Paltz State at Geneseo State

First place Blue Knights host a Hawks team that's slowly slip slidin away. Three straight conference losses have seen the Hawks go from a 2nd place tie to a 6th place tie and in danger of missing the playoffs. Geneseo thumped the Hawks in New Paltz earlier in December, have now won 4 straight in the series, and 9 of the last 12. Geneseo has Cortland and Plattsburgh close on their heels with all three teams tied in the loss column. Blue Knights, 1 up in the win column will look to stay that way tonight. Point spread has Geneseo favored by 10 and the Hawks are playing better than they were in December when they lost by 21. I think they'll keep it closer this time around but still come out on the short end. Geneseo 85 New Paltz 76.

Potsdam State at Fredonia State

The Bears are trying to get back into the race but loss to Plattsburgh on Tuesday prevented them from moving into a playoff position. Another loss here could be devastating. Fredonia is tied for last place at 1-8 and would need a big reversal of fortune to have any hope of making the playoffs. Early line had the Bears favored by 2 but the oddsmakers have now got the Blue Devils listed as a 1 point choice. Bears won the first go around 78-54 in Potsdam back in December, but Fredonia leads the series 7-3 in the last 10 meetings. Bears have won 2 of their last 3 conference games while the Blue Devils have lost 7 straight. Potsdam big man Rob Duquette still questionable and jas been out for 3 straight games with an ankle injury. May return tonight? Bears could sure use him to help their inside game. I think Curtis Pierce and Mark Lake will be too much for Fredonia to handle so i'll take the Bears to win this one 76-68.

Oneonta State at Brockport State

Brockport 3-3 in conference play at home but losses have been to top tier teams. They are coming off a big win against Buffalo State and I don't see them faltering here. Oneonta struggling to get wins but have managed to keep quite a few games fairly close. They won't give up that's for sure as evidenced by their win against Oswego. Golden Eagles can't afford to just show up like they did last year when Oneonta upset Brockport for 1 of their 2 conference wins..Oddsmakers have made Brockport a 14 point favorite in this one and the fast pace that the Eagles will throw at the Red Dragons could wear them out. Port leads this series 9-5 in recent years and I think they tack on another tonight. Brockport 83 Oneonta 68.

Plattsburgh State at Buffalo State

Huge game for both teams tonight. 2nd place Cardinals need to keep pace with Geneseo and Cortland, while the 6th place Bengals need to stay in a playoff position. Plattsburgh can actually move a half game in front of idle Cortland and into sole possession of 2nd place with a win. They could even take over sole possession of 1st place with a win and a Geneseo loss. Bengals are 1-4 in conference play since the start of the new year. They have their backs to the wall and will scratch and claw in hopes of getting their mojo back. These teams have split their past 14 meetings but the Bengals have had the better of it for the past 3 years with a 4-2 mark. Oddsmakers had an early line favoring the Bengals by 3 points but that line has tightened up and now the Bengals are just a 1 point favorite. So this looks to be anyone's game. Last year Jake Smith had a monstrous game in Buffalo against the Cardinals as he went off for 37 points and hit 9 three pointers. They won that game 110-68. The teams are much more evenly matched this year and Plattsburgh won the first meeting 93-85. Bengals big man, Anyar Majak, had 27 points in that game, as he was a dominant force inside. He's absent tonight however and I think that will be the deciding factor in the game. I'll take my Cardinals to pull out a rare win at the Sports Arena by a score of 88-82.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 08:44:05 PM
Buffalo State leads Plattsburgh 52-50 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 25, 2013, 08:45:04 PM
It's obviously not right, but currently the D3 scoreboard has New Paltz leading Geneso 826-41.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 08:46:14 PM
Other halftime scores:

Fredonia leads Potsdam 37-30

Brockport leads Oneonta 45-30

Geneseo leads New Paltz 41-26
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 08:47:12 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 25, 2013, 08:45:04 PM
It's obviously not right, but currently the D3 scoreboard has New Paltz leading Geneso 826-41.

They had a nice run!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 09:11:29 PM
Buffalo State came back from a 31-14 deficit with 12 minutes to play on the period to finally catch the Cardinals at 48 on a 3 pointer by Jake Simmons with 55 seconds left. Cards went up 50-48 on 2 free throws by John Perez but the Bengals got a tip in by Leon Moise and then a steal by Simmons and a pass to Brad Doyley for a layup with 3 seconds left to take the lead for the first time in the game and go into the locker room on a pretty good high. I think my Cards may be in trouble.

Shamoy McIntosh led the Cards with 13 points followed by John Perez and Jordan Moody with 11 each. The Bengals were led by Brad Doyley with 10 points, Ryan Carney with 9 points, Rod Epps with 9, and Jake Simmons with 8.

Hey I just got a shout out at halftime on the Buffalo State video broadcast as they welcomed the magicman from the Music Shop in Plattsburgh NY to the broadcast. Well I feel honored. Thanks Guys.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
Geneseo defeats New Paltz  76-61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 09:51:54 PM
Plattsburgh ends regulation on a 17-2 run to tie the game at 84 and force overtime.

Potsdam hits a 3 pointer at the buzzer in regulation to tie it at 79 and force overtime at Fredonia.

Brockport defeats Oneonta 83-73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 10:01:36 PM
Fredonia's Robert Lyles goes coast to coast with 10 seconds left to score with 1 second left as the Blue Devils defeat Potsdam 87-86 in overtime. Tough loss for the Bears as Curtis Pierce had made 1 of 2 free throws to give the Bears the lead before the final possession.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2013, 11:31:29 PM
Buffalo State hangs on to defeat Plattsburgh State in overtime 93-89. Cards were atrocious from the foul line as they only made 20 of 38 attempts. Gotta hand it to the Bengals they wanted this game more than the Cardinals did. Plattsburgh had entirely too many turnovers in the overtime period and most importantly 4 turnovers in a row before they scored a point in the extra frame, allowing the Bengals to go on top 90-84 with 2:06 left in the game. Down by 6 at 93-87 they went 1 of 2 on consecutive trips to the line, missing the opportunity to get it to a single possession game. A steal and missed layup by Plattsburgh wasted another chance with 10 seconds left and the only reason the margin wasn't larger was the Bengals missed their last 4 attempts from the line.

Bengals' Jake Simmons shared scoring honors with Plattsburgh's Shamoy McIntosh as they both had 24 points. Simmons was instrumental in the Bengals win as he scored 12 straight points on 2 jumpers and 4 consectutive drives to extend the Bengals  lead from 70-63 to 82-67. Even those heroics almost weren't enough as the Cardinals fought back to tie it and send it to overtime. McIntosh kept Plattsburgh in the game as he had one timely basket after another and went 5 for 5 from 3 point land.

Buffalo State had 5 players hit double figures led by Simmons' 24. Simmons added 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals to his stat line. Rod Epps had 19 points 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals. Brad Doyley had 15 points, 6 assists and 2 steals. Ryan Carney led the Bengals with 13 rebounds and completed a double-double with 11 points. Freshman Leon Moise was a perfect 5x5 from the field to total 10 points. Seth Runge had a block party tonight with 6 blocks, 6 rebounds and 4 points. Chris Castren filled up the stat sheet with 6 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and a block. Bengals shot 36x68 from the field (52.9%), only 3x12 from long range (25%), and 18x29 from the line (62.1%). They won the battle of the boards 54-46, but had 34 turnovers to 23 for Plattsburgh.

Plattsburgh also placed 5 players in double figures. In addition to McIntosh with his 24, the Cards got 13 points and 5 rebounds from Jordan Moody. John Perez just missed a double-double scoring 12 points and grabbing 9 rebounds with 3 steals. Point guard Chris Manning had 10 points, 7 assists, 9 steals (the 2nd time in a week that he's had 9) and 4 rebounds. Ezra Hodgson added 10 points, 5 rebounds, and 4 assists. Plattsburgh only shot  30x85 (35.3%) from the field,  9x29 from downtown (31.0%) and a pathetic 20x38 from the foul line (52.6%).  Cardinals had their moments in this game. One came early in the contest. But blowing a 17 point lead was way too costly and allowing the Bengals to go into the break with the lead sure was a momentum changer. Then to come all the way back from their own 15 point deficit with only 6:18 left in the game was a tribute to their never quit attitude but perhaps they were gassed from that effort which carried over into the overtime period. The Queen City jinx is alive and well as Plattsburgh hasn't won in Buffalo in the past 5 years.       

Buffalo State gets to take on Potsdam tomorrow and the Bears will need to shake off a demoralizing overtime loss to last place Fredonia on a last second basket by the Blue Devils. Buffalo State improves to 5-5 in conference play (10-6 overall) and now has sole possession of the 6th and final playoff spot.

Plattsburgh will travel to Fredonia as they need to put this loss behind them and make sure the weekend trip isn't a total loss. The Cardinals fall to 7-3 in the YAC (11-6 overall) and into 3rd place.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 25, 2013, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2013, 09:11:29 PM
Hey I just got a shout out at halftime on the Buffalo State video broadcast as they welcomed the magicman from the Music Shop in Plattsburgh NY to the broadcast. Well I feel honored. Thanks Guys.

You are welcome Magicman!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 12:31:42 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 25, 2013, 11:41:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2013, 09:11:29 PM
Hey I just got a shout out at halftime on the Buffalo State video broadcast as they welcomed the magicman from the Music Shop in Plattsburgh NY to the broadcast. Well I feel honored. Thanks Guys.

You are welcome Magicman!! ;)

I have to congratulate the Bengals on their big win tonight. It looked like Plattsburgh was going to blow them right out of the Sports Arena after the first 8 minutes of the game. Coach Ansari did a great job getting his team to weather the storm and getting them back into the flow. And to do it ALL by halftime was even more impressive. Usually as a coach you're happy just to get a 17 point deficit back to single digits. To have the lead 12 minutes later was not something you see that often. Kudos to the players and the coaches. Hopefully we'll meet a third time down the road. I was hoping it might be here in Plattsburgh but with our loss tonight we'll have our work cut out for us. Of course we could run the table. (Not likely, but not impossible either) At any rate, I wish the Bengals luck and hope you have some good news concerning a certain missing person. After all, I now need you to take down, in order, Oswego, Cortland and Geneseo on the last day of the regular season and you'll need him to do so ;D ;)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 09:40:34 AM
Some interesting results last night in New York State hoops action that will have an effect on the Regional Rankings.

Ithaca defeated #20 Stevens 80-69 as the Bombers have taken sole possession of 1st place on the Empire 8. Stevens, looking so good just a week ago has now suffered back to back losses in League play.

Hartwick who defeated Stevens on Tuesday gets trounced by lowly Elmira 88-62. I remember commenting way back on November 15th when the Soaring Eagles played Cortland and only lost to the Red Dragons 63-60 that they were an improved team and would pull off some upsets.

Nazareth loses an 80-76 contest to even more lowly Alfred. This loss is made more surprising because it came in Rochester and not Mayberry. The Golden Flyers were 11-4 (4-1 in the E8) just 8 days ago. They have now lost 4 games in a row and sit in a 4th place tie with Utica College with a 4-5 record.

NYU drops their 3rd straight conference game as they lose at Rochester 65-50. Violets now only 2-4 in the UAA and fall into a 3 way tie for 5th place.

The top 3 in the Liberty League all won last night:

Hobart beat Bard 62-45

Skidmore defeated RPI 81-74 as the Thoroughbreds won their 6th game in a row.

Union got by SLU 83-62.

No rankings implications but RIT finally broke into the win column in the Liberty League as they beat Vassar 62-53

Cortland State could be the big beneficiary of Stevens back to back losses. If the Red Dragons beat Oswego tonight, not only will it probably be another win against a regionally ranked opponent (I have to believe Oswego is in the top 6 right now) but could boost them into 2nd place behind Rochester when the rankings do come out. They just need to stay clean to hold that postion. That would pretty much guarantee them an at large bid should they not win the SUNYAC tournament. Ithaca will also benefit and step up in the rankings. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 03:49:23 PM
All 10 teams in action today with 4 games at 4 PM and 1 at 8 PM.  Short on time so these will be quick.

Potsdam State at Buffalo State   4 PM

Hard not to like the Bengals in this matchup. Both teams coming off overtime games last night. Bengals were winners, Bears took the tough loss. Point spread favors the Bengals by 7 points. Teams had a barnburner in Potsdam earlier with the Bengals winning 85-84. I don't think this one will be that close. Bengals win 90-77

Oneonta State at Geneseo State  4 PM

Today's matchup pits the top against the bottom. Geneseo handled New Paltz yesterday while Oneonta couldn't stay with Brockport. More of the same today. Blue Knights favored by 18 points. I think it will be closer but still a comfortable Geneseo win. Something like
76-63.

New Paltz State at Brockport State  4 PM

Two teams that will be battling till the end for a playoff spot. Brockport with the upper hand at present looking to: A. increase their lead over the Hawks and...B. revenge an earlier loss in Hawk Center back in December. Pointspread has them favored 9 but it should be closer. I'll go with the Golden Eagles  88-81.

Plattsburgh State at Fredonia State  4 PM

Cardinals need to put last night behind them in a hurry. Fredonia riding high after their overtime win last night against Potsdam. Plattsburgh always has problems playing in Fredonia. Cardinals lead this series 9-5 over the past 6 years but have lost in Fredonia 3 of the past 4 trips there. Plattsburgh needs a win here to stay in touch with the leaders if they have any hope of getting the top seed. Oddsmakers have made the Cards a 7 point favorite and i think they'll cover that spread. I see the final as a 77-67 Cardinal win.

Cortland State at Oswego State 8 PM

Oswego has owned the Red Dragons over the past 6 years, racking up a 10-2 record against them. Cortland's 2 wins came at home in 2010 and in the playoffs in 2008 at Brockport. So it's been slim pickings for the Red Dragons in the confines of Max Ziel Gym. Oswego swept Cortland last year going 3-0 as they won twice in the regular season and in the championship game of the YAC tournament. Even though we're at the halfway point of the conference season Oswego is the only team Cortland has yet to play due to the unbalanced schedule of the SUNYAC this year. Cortland needs a win here to keep pace with Geneseo as the Blue Knights will most likely improve to 10-2 after today. Oswego needs a win to keep alive any hopes of winning the regular season. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a slim 3 point favorite. I think this just might be the year that the Red Dragons get that win in Laker Hall. Revenge is surely on their minds after their failed attempts of last year. No Chad Burridge, and a shorter Laker bench make me think that the Red Dragons are the stronger team this time around. I already told Dave 'd-mac' McHugh that the final would be Cortland 75 Oswego 72. I'm sticking with that. I wouldn't mind being wrong, as a Cortland loss would help my Cards more than an Oswego loss would, but I gotta call em as my crystal ball tells me to. :D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 04:43:18 PM
Geneseo leads Oneonta 42-34 at the half.

Connor Fedge leads Geneseo with 13 points. Matt Curry and Gordon Lyons with 9 each.

Zach Mager with 21 for Oneonta. Dan Lee with 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 04:45:36 PM
Plattsburgh leads Fredonia 33-23 at the half.

John Perez with 8 and Chris Manning with 6 for the Cards.

Robert Lyles with 6 for Fredonia
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 04:49:51 PM
Buffalo State leads Potsdam 37-28 at halftime.

Jake Simmons on his way to another big night has 17 at the break to lead the Bengals. Rod Epps has 8 and Seth Runge with 6.

Curtis Pierce and Colin Peterson with 8 each. Mark Lake with 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 04:56:27 PM
Brockport had a sizable lead over New Paltz but the Hawks have come back to close within 4 as they trail Port 38-34.

John Ivy with 13 to lead the Eagles. Jordan Major with 6.

Matt Devine has 13 for the Hawks. Shareef Taylor has 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
Updates:

Plattsburgh 67 Fredonia 42 with 3:40 left.

Brockport 72  New Paltz 55 with 6:18 left

Buffalo State 83 Potsdam 57 final score.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 05:38:51 PM
Plattsburgh defeats Fredonia 72-47.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 05:42:45 PM
Geneseo defeats Oneonta 79-62.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 05:50:35 PM
Brockport Defeats New Paltz 93-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 08:36:07 PM
Cortland leads Oswego 39-35 at the break.

Red Dragons led by Kevin McMahon with 11 points. Jesse Winter has 9 and Brian Manning has 8.

Oswego's top scorers are Hayden Ward with 9 and D II transfer Daniel Ross also with 9 points. Chris Gilke has 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2013, 09:35:46 PM
Cortland 75, Oswego 69  final

No rattling this veteran RDragons outfit which fell behind 63-59 with 5:08 left on H. Ward inside move. CSt pulls off a 66-64 reversal on J. Smith hoop at 3:23, a bucket matched by S. Michele at 2:43 for 66-66 knot. Corts seizes the lead for good on Smith connection and his last of 17 points. K. MaMahon builds the edge to 70-66 on an inside bucket at 1:43. A McMahon putback makes it 72-67. C. Gilkes layup brings Lakers within 72-69 at 0:48. Corts then run down the clock and set up Winter for the clinching trey as shot and game clocks wind down. A rushed OSt bid misfires, Corts rebound and get the 'W' in well played scrap.

The steady Winter with 18 pts(6x16fg, 3x7 3s), 5 rebs, 5 assts, 3 stls in 37'. Smith with 17 pts(7x18fg, 3x8 3s) in 34'; McMahon 17 pts(8x12fg), 9 rebs; H. Hefele 11 pts(4x6fg). Corts 30x60fg, 9x20 3s, 6x8ft, 31 rebs, 6 Tovers.

Oswego's D. Ross 17 pts(7x9fg), 4 rebs in 38'; H. Ward 15 pts(7x15fg), 13 rebs; Gilkes 17 pts(8x15fg); K. Covley 11 pts(3x6fg, 3x5 3s). Lakers 27x55fg, 6x19 3s, 9x13ft, 30 rebs, 7 Tovers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 09:40:43 PM
Cortland 's Jesse Winter nails a dagger 3 pointer with 17 seconds on the clock to give  the Red Dragons a 2 possession 75-69 lead. Oswego misfires on their end and this one is history. I told Dave McHugh it was going to be 75-72 Cortland and needed oswego to knock down a 3 on their shot to make me look like Nostradamus.  The final was pretty darn close. I'll take it. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 10:08:31 PM
Plattsburgh 72 Fredonia 47

Plattsburgh took out last night's frustration on the Blue Devils as they once again came out of the locker room and broke on top 13-2 after 3:22 seconds had gone by. And again it was John Perez and Chris Manning who led the charge early. The Blue Devils would get to within 5 but the Cards went back up by double digits at 24-12 and the lead grew to 32-16 with 1:33 left. Fredonia however, ended the period on a 7-1 spurt to make it 33-23 at the break. Fredonia scored the first bucket of the 2nd half to narrow the lead to single digits but Manning and Perez with help from Jordan Moody and Shamoy McIntosh exploded for 18 quick points and the Cardinals had opened up a 23 point lead at 51-28 with 11 minutes to play. The lead would grow to 28 and was never less than 23 from that point on. Coach Curle emptied his bench and 15 players got at least 3 minutes of playing time.

Plattsburgh had balanced scoring as 3 players had double figures but 11 guys broke into the scoring column. Kalik Parker came off the bench to lead the Cardnals with 13 points (5x7 fg, 2x4 3's, 1x2 ft). John Perez had another double-double with 12 points (5x8 fg,2x4 ft) and 10 rebounds. He added 3 assists and 2 steals as well. Point guard Chris Manning also had 12 points (5x8 fg, 2x2 ft) and 3 steals.  Back up point guard Mike Mitchell had 8 points (1x2 fg, 6x8 ft) with 2 steals in 11 minutes on the floor. Jordan Moody had 7 points and 4 rebounds, Ezra Hodson had 5 points, 5 rebounds and 3 steals while Shamoy McIntosh added 5 points, 3 steals and 2 assists. Cards were 26x58 from the field, 5x16 from long range and 15x27 from the line. Rebounds were almost even with Plattsburgh grabbing 41 and the Blue Devils had 42. Turnovers were 16 for Plattsburgh and 24 by Fredonia.

Fredonia was led by Dalton Kashmere with 9 points and 6 rebounds. Devin Case and Robert Lyles had 8 points each. Case had 6 boards while Lyles had 5. Tyrone Clark had 7 points and 5 rebounds. Fredonia as a team only had a total of 6 assists. Blue Devils were only 14 for 56 from the field and  even worse only 3 for 26 (ouch) from downtown. They shot well from the line hitting 16 of 19.

Plattsburgh improves to 8-3 in conference play (12-6 overall) and has 2 more games on the road before they see the friendly confines of Memorial Hall again. They are off until next Friday Feb. 1st when they travel to Oneonta  for an 8 PM contest, followed by a 4 PM game with New Paltz on Saturday.

Fredonia drops to 2-9 in the YAC and 6-11 overall. It won't get any easier for the Blue Devils as up next are visits from Cortland and Oswego next weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2013, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2013, 09:40:43 PM
Cortland 's Jesse Winter nails a dagger 3 pointer with 17 seconds on the clock to give  the Red Dragons a 2 possession 75-69 lead. Oswego misfires on their end and this one is history. I told Dave McHugh it was going to be 75-72 Cortland and needed oswego to knock down a 3 on their shot to make me look like Nostradamus.  The final was pretty darn close. I'll take it. ;D

The score was on my mind from about half-way through the second half on. I first didn't think either team would get close as they both hit a standstill midway through the half, but they rallied. And yes, I also thought that not only did Oswego have to hit a three to make it interesting late, but also make you seem like a genious.

Overall, pretty impressed. Both teams shot over .500 and there were 13 TOTAL turnovers in a game that certainly had some interesting calls from the officials. It started with the lead official's whistle being broken, and a tech on Cortland for what I figure had to be taunting or talking back to the ref after a basket, and had more conversations between refs and coaches than I have seen ever... or at least in a very long time.

I can't say either team was better than the other... it just came down to an extra three, essentially. I talked briefly to both coaches afterward and thought they both were satisfied with the game and know where their teams sit. I will talk to Coach Leone more tomorrow for a taped segments for Monday's Hoopsville, but I agreed with his thinking that Cortland can hang with a lot of teams that are better than maybe this region can offer and that Oswego is missing that one guy that can add another dimension to the team.

Right now, I wouldn't be surprised if either of these teams could get to Salem in the round of 8... IF they aren't matched with Rochester before hand. Of course they could get matched up with Wooster or others, but if they came into the Mid-Atlantic it could be an interesting run. Of course there is a LOT of basketball still to be played.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2013, 11:59:27 PM
The top 6 teams in the conference did create some separation from the bottom 4 making the playoff picture a little clearer.

Geneseo (10-2), I think it's safe to say, has clinched a playoff spot. With their 10 wins, even though it's not a mathematical certainty yet, it's certainly certain enough for me. :D The biggest question is...can they hold off the contenders just below them and grab the top seed. Personally I think they'll get overtaken but I've been wrong before in my assessment of the Blue Knights, so it won't suprise me if they do get the top seed. I just think they'll lose at least 2 more games and depending on what their closest pursuers do may be enough to bump them down a notch or two. 

Cortland (8-2) is basically tied with the Blue Knights as Geneseo has to play the same 6 teams that Cortland does. Cortland has to play 2 more games to catch up but those games are at home against Oneonta and New Paltz, both games I think the Red Dragons will win. So I think Cortland has also clinched a playoff spot. They have 4 left on the road and 4 at home. They play two probable playoff teams at home and two on the road so their schedule is fairly balanced from here on out. 

Plattsburgh (8-3) sits alone in 3rd place and has a 2 and a half game lead on Oswego. Cardinals need to win their last 2 road games next weekend against Oneonta and New Paltz, they then finish with 5 straight home games against the 4 contenders closest to them plus Potsdam. They will have the most favorable schedule if they enter that stretch with only 3 losses. I won't say they've clinched a playoff spot yet (I'm not gonna jinx my Cardinals ::)), but i like their chances.

Oswego (6-4) is clinging to the 4th spot but Brockport is breathing down their neck. Port has played 12 games, Lakers only played 10. Lakers do own the tiebreaker over the Golden Eagles with their season sweep but Oswego has the least favorable schedule and must play 5 of their remaining 8 games on the road. Things could get dicey.

Brockport (7-5) is a half game ahead of Buffalo State but they are tied in the loss column. Golden Eagles with a game in hand but must play 5 of their last 6 on the road and 3 of those road games are against teams that are ahead of them plus the big head to head against the Bengals in Buffalo on the final weekend of the season. They may slip to the 6th spot, which is where I placed them at the beginning of the season.

Buffalo State (6-5) is breathing a little easier now that they have a 2 game lead on New Paltz. With 7 games remaining they can control their own destiny as far as the playoffs go. They will face 3 teams they should beat even though they are all on the road. Do that and they'll have 9 wins and they're in. The tough games (and lets face it, they're all tough games) against the current playoff position teams will all come at home, except for the final game of the season at Geneseo. That game could very well decide the #1 seed in the tournament.

New Paltz (4-7) with 5 straight losses is now directly behind the 8 ball. With 7 games left the Hawks will need to win 5 of those and frankly I don't see it happening. I see 3 wins, maybe 4, but they will need to come up with some new tricks if they want to make the playoffs.

The remaining 3 teams have no chance to make the playoffs. With the reduction of playoff bound teams from 8 down to 6, and an 18 game schedule the days of a 6-12 team qualifying for the playoffs are over. I don't think any of the bottom 3 teams will get more than 6 wins but that really doesn't matter this year because I think the top 6 will all have at least 9 wins.

So I think the 6 teams are set and now it's just a matter of their final seeding. The next 3 weeks will be fun. I just hope they're more fun for me than they are for Bengalsrule, jdex or dcahill.  ;D 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2013, 12:30:53 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2013, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2013, 09:40:43 PM
Cortland 's Jesse Winter nails a dagger 3 pointer with 17 seconds on the clock to give  the Red Dragons a 2 possession 75-69 lead. Oswego misfires on their end and this one is history. I told Dave McHugh it was going to be 75-72 Cortland and needed oswego to knock down a 3 on their shot to make me look like Nostradamus.  The final was pretty darn close. I'll take it. ;D

The score was on my mind from about half-way through the second half on. I first didn't think either team would get close as they both hit a standstill midway through the half, but they rallied. And yes, I also thought that not only did Oswego have to hit a three to make it interesting late, but also make you seem like a genious.

Overall, pretty impressed. Both teams shot over .500 and there were 13 TOTAL turnovers in a game that certainly had some interesting calls from the officials. It started with the lead official's whistle being broken, and a tech on Cortland for what I figure had to be taunting or talking back to the ref after a basket, and had more conversations between refs and coaches than I have seen ever... or at least in a very long time.

I can't say either team was better than the other... it just came down to an extra three, essentially. I talked briefly to both coaches afterward and thought they both were satisfied with the game and know where their teams sit. I will talk to Coach Leone more tomorrow for a taped segments for Monday's Hoopsville, but I agreed with his thinking that Cortland can hang with a lot of teams that are better than maybe this region can offer and that Oswego is missing that one guy that can add another dimension to the team.

Right now, I wouldn't be surprised if either of these teams could get to Salem in the round of 8... IF they aren't matched with Rochester before hand. Of course they could get matched up with Wooster or others, but if they came into the Mid-Atlantic it could be an interesting run. Of course there is a LOT of basketball still to be played.

One measley little three pointer away from perfection and I only seem like a genius. ???  Oh the humanity!! And it's not a genius I'm trying for it's a magicman ;D Boy, you're a tough audience. I'd of thought my prognostication would earn me a shout out during that interview with Coach Leone. Not during the interview mind you but at some point when you reminisce to your listeners about your visit to Oswego.  Next year you'll have to come to Plattsburgh and do an interview with Coach Curle.  He owes you one anyway from a couple of years ago when there was a slight mixup. The Cardinals will return every single player on their 16 man roster and should be one of the better teams in the SUNYAC and East Region. It will be a good year to do one with him. I'll show you North Country hospitality, save you a hotel bill, and even make you my famous surf and turf. And I'm serious about that. What more could a Maine boy ask for?

Tell Coach Leone that one missing guy was called Chad Burridge. ;D  Unfortuately there wasn't another Burridge n the cupboard. Chad and his brother Matt, before him, gave the Lakers 8 good years. I introduced myself to Coach Leone last year when he came to Plattsburgh and welcomed him to the SUNYAC. Probably doesn't remember.

By the way, is the Hoopsville Classic all filled up for next year on the Men's side? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2013, 12:34:35 AM
I have to keep you grounded magicman :)

I will see if I can work in a reference on Hoopsville - but you have to prove to me you are listening Monday night :)

And I think the Hoopsville Classic is full... and if we do have spots we are looking a little west as the teams we have are slightly too much Eastern Time zone... but we will let you know... and we are looking to fill the future years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2013, 03:30:45 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2013, 12:34:35 AM
I have to keep you grounded magicman :)

I will see if I can work in a reference on Hoopsville - but you have to prove to me you are listening Monday night :)

And I think the Hoopsville Classic is full... and if we do have spots we are looking a little west as the teams we have are slightly too much Eastern Time zone... but we will let you know... and we are looking to fill the future years.

Dave you needn't worry, at my age believe me, I'm grounded. ::) And I'll be tuned in even though I have to stay late at my store to watch the show. Which I do on numerous occasions. (No high speed internet at my house...it's too rural and no company to provide service). I'll send you an email that night to prove it.

I figured that the Hoopsville Classic was filled but thought I'd check just in case.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 27, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
Hard time believing that both these teams are Elite 8 caliber Oswego is very young After Michele, Ward, Gilkes, Mirabito. I wouldve tooken Cortland in this Game just my thoughts. Oswego and Cortland are both very good but dont think Oswego has the experience and i dont think Hayden, Michele and Gilkes can Carry them to the Elite 8. Although I think Cortland is Very Good... with their ability to make 3s and Great size and Experience. I think they will get to the sweet 16 maybe along with Oswego but lose in that round of the bracket. Depending on who they are matched up with. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2013, 11:44:00 PM
   Put this in the category of "I might have missed this" but..... Did you know that the SUNYAC had 2 members on the D3Hoops "team of the week" this past week?  Jake Simmons (Buffalo State) and Jeremy Smith (Cortland)!! New team will be out tommorrow but I didn't know until yesterday (when Coach Ansari told me)! Not to mention some ECAC honors also!! I'm betting that that's a first (2 on D3hoops team, from 'Yac,  same week). I'll await the "sage 1's" response from the North Country, to confirm yea/nay on that.

Speaking of Plattsburgh (i.e. North country)... who do I run into while stopping at the McDonalds rest stop on the thruway, near Syracuse late last (Sat.) night?  The Cardinals basketball team. They had the hold McDonalds to themselves. Had a chance to talk with Coach Curle ( my fave coach in Yac' who's last name isn't Ansari) about some non-basketball stuff and what summers look like in Plattsburgh. I may venture up there this summer while at a conference in Lake Placid (while sneaking up to Montreal). I've always wanted to visit this famous store in Plattsburgh called the "MusicShop". I hear it is the only "1 stop, all your music needs right here" place in the North country...maybe the state!! I'd check with the "magic 1" before going there to make sure I'm not getting bad info!!

  Oh and yea..2 games = 2 wins this weekend. It's been awhile since that has happened at home for my BENGALS. If they can duplicate the same feat this coming weekend...then I'll get excited!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2013, 02:17:46 AM
SUNYAC records???

  (While wondering where my Buffalo Bills went wrong this year ::))  I'm reading where Scott Finch - Geneseo 89-94 holds the "regular season career record for most points in a career" at 1459. These records only date back to 1985. And from what I've read it is just regular season SUNYAC games.  The #2 all-time scorer is (was) Andre Peterson- Potsdam 1998-2002 @ 1072 . If so, then I'm "keeping hope alive" for Jake Simmons who stands at 1186 points with 7 games left (which would move him into 2nd place all-time now). That is 1 of the better kept secrets in 'Yac history but the numbers don't lie.

  Career Stats for Jake are as follows...2011-12 (18) games 366 points, 2010-11 (18) games 328 pts and 2009-10 (18) games 292 points. He currently has 200 points in 11 games. 273 more points and he ties that mark.. 274 and he breaks it, (unless my math is wrong :-[ ).

  Yea magic,  I know that 273 is a long shot,  but for this kid to be currently the 2nd leading all time scorer in the modern 'Yac @ 1186, is 1 helluva an accomplishment. Especially for a kid who 5-6 years ago was in foster care... homeless...on public asistance...became the legal guardian for his younger siblings...  all before his 21st birthday. Someone who many, in Rochester, had written off 6 years ago when he lived in a boarded up building while caring for himself and his siblings!

  Maybe it's just me (because I'm the sentimental type :'( ) but somewhere in the future someone should be writing a book about this kid!! We, SUNYAC fans will (IMHO) never see another like Jake! NEVER!!


Jake would never blow his own horn. Most in Buff State are like that. I however want to shout it from the rooftops!

I'm walking up the stairs to the roof right now :D.

"Congrats Jake and keep doing what you are doing!!"

Go BENGALS!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2013, 08:29:46 AM
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Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2013, 11:44:00 PM
   Put this in the category of "I might have missed this" but..... Did you know that the SUNYAC had 2 members on the D3Hoops "team of the week" this past week?  Jake Simmons (Buffalo State) and Jeremy Smith (Cortland)!! New team will be out tommorrow but I didn't know until yesterday (when Coach Ansari told me)! Not to mention some ECAC honors also!! I'm betting that that's a first (2 on D3hoops team, from 'Yac,  same week). I'll await the "sage 1's" response from the North Country, to confirm yea/nay on that.

Speaking of Plattsburgh (i.e. North country)... who do I run into while stopping at the McDonalds rest stop on the thruway, near Syracuse late last (Sat.) night?  The Cardinals basketball team. They had the hold McDonalds to themselves. Had a chance to talk with Coach Curle ( my fave coach in Yac' who's last name isn't Ansari) about some non-basketball stuff and what summers look like in Plattsburgh. I may venture up there this summer while at a conference in Lake Placid (while sneaking up to Montreal). I've always wanted to visit this famous store in Plattsburgh called the "MusicShop". I hear it is the only "1 stop, all your music needs right here" place in the North country...maybe the state!! I'd check with the "magic 1" before going there to make sure I'm not getting bad info!!

  Oh and yea..2 games = 2 wins this weekend. It's been awhile since that has happened at home for my BENGALS. If they can duplicate the same feat this coming weekend...then I'll get excited!!! ;)

Do you really think something as important as 2 players from the YAC making D3hoops Team of the Week in the same week is going to get by me? Wow, how little faith you have. You need to spend more time reading this board and less time traveling the roads. The readers here knew what you just posted, 5 days ago. Probably when you were in Albany for your day job, I was posting about the D3hoops Team of the Week. See page 301 5th post through the 10th post. 


Hard to believe you ran into the Cardinals in Syracuse as they were making their way home from the weekend trip to Buff State and Fredonia. I probably just missed you as I was on the phone with Coach Curle as they were nearing Syracuse.

Jake Simmons now has 1920 points and it would appear that he will crack the 2000 point barrier by the time his career is over at Buffalo State. Hard to say where Jake ranks in total points scored since the SUNYAC records are so hard to follow. I did some research and Scott Fitch totaled 2634 points for his career. It wouldn't surprise me if Jake ends up in 2nd place. I don't know how many players from the YAC have scored 2000 points for their career. I'm sure it can't be more than a couple but Jake and Fitch might be the only two that have accompliched this feat. Plattsburgh State's prolific scorer of a few years ago, Anthony Williams, probably would be on this list, but only played 3 years at Plattsburgh State and totaled 1734 points. Oswego great, Chad Burridge, could be in third place behind Fitch and Jake, with his 1865 total points, but that's just a guess on my part. It seems strange that our records wouldn't include a "total career points scored" category, but when the conference website can't even spell the names of some of the players correctly, I guess that shouldn't surprise me. ;D

And someone should write a book about Jake's story. I nominate you!! ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 28, 2013, 11:16:41 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 27, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
Hard time believing that both these teams are Elite 8 caliber Oswego is very young After Michele, Ward, Gilkes, Mirabito. I wouldve tooken Cortland in this Game just my thoughts. Oswego and Cortland are both very good but dont think Oswego has the experience and i dont think Hayden, Michele and Gilkes can Carry them to the Elite 8. Although I think Cortland is Very Good... with their ability to make 3s and Great size and Experience. I think they will get to the sweet 16 maybe along with Oswego but lose in that round of the bracket. Depending on who they are matched up with.

You have to remember one major thing in Division III... the bracket. It isn't like the committee can even out all of the top teams across the bracket and have them all make their way to Salem, there are going to be some easier parts of the bracket and considering the East isn't that strong and in close proximity to the Atlantic and Mid-Atlantic, they could get a run that allows them less challenges before Salem. The only major concern would be Rochester, but knowing the committee, if two teams from the SUNYAC get in, Rochester won't have to face both on their trip unless it is in Salem for the second.

Oswego does have Ross back and I started to see what difference he can make. Cortland is pretty solid, but they have to play as a team a little more often to get the job done.

What I am basically saying is that depending on the bracket the committee comes up with, I could see an Elite 8 appearance... but obviously, it depends on the bracket.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 28, 2013, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2013, 11:44:00 PM
   Put this in the category of "I might have missed this" but..... Did you know that the SUNYAC had 2 members on the D3Hoops "team of the week" this past week?  Jake Simmons (Buffalo State) and Jeremy Smith (Cortland)!! New team will be out tommorrow but I didn't know until yesterday (when Coach Ansari told me)! Not to mention some ECAC honors also!! I'm betting that that's a first (2 on D3hoops team, from 'Yac,  same week).

We've been doing the TOW for 16 years, but it's definitely possible. There are some SUNYAC schools who simply won't report in to us, even though we've been doing this since 1997. Guess we're not established enough yet.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2013, 04:11:17 PM

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2013, 11:44:00 PM
   
Jake Simmons now has 1920 points and it would appear that he will crack the 2000 point barrier by the time his career is over at Buffalo State. Hard to say where Jake ranks in total points scored since the SUNYAC records are so hard to follow. I did some research and Scott Fitch totaled 2634 points for his career. It wouldn't surprise me if Jake ends up in 2nd place. I don't know how many players from the YAC have scored 2000 points for their career. I'm sure it can't be more than a couple but Jake and Fitch might be the only two that have accomplished this feat.


Steve Babiarz scored 2,089 points in four years at Potsdam, but only started for three of them.
He was 8th man on the 1985-86 undefeated national Championship team, and didn't play on a losing team in college until his 61st game.  He went to the NCAA's all four years, and played in 122 games.  His senior year in 1988-89, he averaged 25.1 ppg (754 points in 30 games).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 28, 2013, 04:11:17 PM

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2013, 11:44:00 PM
   
Jake Simmons now has 1920 points and it would appear that he will crack the 2000 point barrier by the time his career is over at Buffalo State. Hard to say where Jake ranks in total points scored since the SUNYAC records are so hard to follow. I did some research and Scott Fitch totaled 2634 points for his career. It wouldn't surprise me if Jake ends up in 2nd place. I don't know how many players from the YAC have scored 2000 points for their career. I'm sure it can't be more than a couple but Jake and Fitch might be the only two that have accomplished this feat.


Steve Babiarz scored 2,089 points in four years at Potsdam, but only started for three of them.
He was 8th man on the 1985-86 undefeated national Championship team, and didn't play on a losing team in college until his 61st game.  He went to the NCAA's all four years, and played in 122 games.  His senior year in 1988-89, he averaged 25.1 ppg (754 points in 30 games).

Correction, my quote not my friend from Buffalo. Thanks for the info on Babiarz. I was on the phone with Bengalsrule earlier today and I mention Babiarz as a possiblity. I spoke with Steve after his Potsdam career was over, when he was in Plattsburgh for a PBA tournament, and I thought, when we were discussing his Potsdam days, he told me he had over 2000 points. That was a number of years ago, however, and the memory gets a little fuzzy over time. I was hoping you would come on and clarify that for me. Thanks bear.  However in checking with the NCAA statistics filed by Potsdam it shows Babiarz with 2009 points not 2089. The breakdown on the NCAA sheets that Jerry turned in shows Babiarz with 172 his freshman year, 479 his sophomore year, 643 his junior year and 715 his senior year. Perhaps there's a mistake somewhere along the line. And your statement of not playing on a losing team until his 61st game... means he didn't play in a losing game until his 61st contest because of the Bears huge win streak. He never played on a losing team. ;D  Can you think of any other Potsdam players (or any other SUNYAC players) that broke the 2000 point mark? I know Derrick Rowland had 1770 for his last 3 years but he didn't show up with a total for his freshman year on the final stat sheet that Jerry turned in. He would have needed to score 230 points as a freshman and he would have been listed if he had done that. I'm guessing he had less than 100 points as a frosh. Ed Jachim  had 1554 for his career and Leroy Witherspoon had 1307 for his 4 years. I think Maurice Woods and Brendon Mitchell came up short as well.

Are you back from the California coast? That's probably why it's snowing in the North Country today. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
I think there's a few Canadian games included in the stats back in that era, my numbers are from our media guide.  Jerry used to play at least two Canadian teams a year.

Babiarz played his freshman year without the three point line, or his total would have been higher.

Think about what that must have been like, to not have lost in your first 60 games in college.

Rowland only played 3.5 years, he was moved up from the Jayvees midway through his freshman season.  He would have approached 2,000 points had he played four full years.  Again, no three point line, though he went on to be a top three point shooter in the CBA.

Deane only played three years, but scored 1447 points, but he also had points at Hobart where he played his first year.  Deane played his entire career without a three point line, or his totals would have been MUCH higher, other than the pick and roll with Bence, most of his scoring came from the perimeter.

In fact the very same storm that is bringing snow here, came ashore in Southern California last Thursday, and we got wet, flew over it, and are now getting snowed on.  Was glad to escape the North Country cooler last week however.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2013, 06:18:04 AM
John Ivy of Brockport State has been selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 1-28. John scored 74 points in 3 games last week and reached the 1000 point mark when he scored 32 against New Paltz on Saturday afternoon. For the week he was 29x57 from the field (50.8%), 9x20 from long distance (45%) and 7x8 from the line (87.5%). He totaled 12 rebounds, 7 assists and 9 steals as well.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

John Ivy, Brockport
Rochester, NY / East

John Ivy scored a career-high 32 points in a win over New Paltz to reach the 1,000 point career milestone. Ivy entered the game needing 31 points. He becomes the 22nd player in Brockport history to join the 1,000 point club. Ivy averaged 24.7 points during a three-game winning streak while shooting 50.9 percent. He also averaged three steals per game, including a career-high five against Oneonta

Here's my honorable mention Players of the Week:

Jake Simmons could just have easily been selected for the 3rd time in 5 weeks as he carried the load in a 2-1 week for Buffalo State.
After a loss at Brockport mid-week it was imperative that the Bengals pick up 2 badly needed wins on a weekend home stand. Simmons didn't disappoint as he tallied 24 points against Plattsburgh on Friday as Buffalo State won in overtime against the Cardinals. He scored 30 points the next day against Potsdam as the Bengals opened up a 2 game lead for the final playoff spot. For the 3 games Jake scored 76 points as he shot 28x44 from the field (63.6%), 8x13 from the arc (61.5%) and 12x14 from the line (85.7%). He added 9 rebounds, 5 steals and 4 assists.

Zach Mager from Oneonta had a 3 game stretch that would ordinarily be a hands down Player of the Week selection. I saw him play 10 days ago in Plattsburgh and was impressed with his game. Only a sophomore he should merit some consideration for the All Conference awards at the end of the year. He's scored in double figures in 16 of 17 games played and is presently averaging 18.6 ppg and 7.2 rpg. Not bad for a 6'2" guard. This past week he scored 70 points for a 23.3 ppg average. He shot 21x33 from the field (63.6%), 6x8 from downtown (75%) and 22x26 from the line (84.6%). He grabbed 19 rebounds, had 3 assists and 2 steals. With the averages he's put up this year he'd probably be a first team selection if Oneonta was having a good year. Because they'll finish at or near the bottom of the standings he'll probably be a third team selection or get overlooked completely. 

Matt Devine of New Paltz had three excellent games as well but unfortunately the Hawks dropped all three. Devine scored 71 points in those games. He shot 19x40 from the field (47.5%), 6x13 from the 3 point line (46.1%) and 27x30 from the line (90.0%). He totaled 19 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.

John Perez from Plattsburgh helped lead the Cardinals to a 2-1 week as they solidified their drive toward the playoffs. Perez didn't get as many minutes as the other players on this list as the Cardinals won a pair of lopsided games and the coaching staff gave the bench players ample minutes. Perez filled up the stat sheet while he was on the court however. He scored 40 points as he was 15x28 from the field (53.5%) and 10x16 from the line (62.5%). He grabbed 23 rebounds had 9 steals and 3 assists.   

Congratulation to these five players as you've made the magicman's Team of the Week. ;D       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
BENGALSRULE PLEASE NOTE: TEAM OF THE WEEK NOTIFICATION  Note color: Brockport State Green

And just like last week our reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week has also been named to this week's D3hoops Team of the Week

John Ivy who received the YAC honors yesterday got the D3hoops honors today. John is the 3rd SUNYAC player in 2 weeks to get this national award, and the 4th player from the YAC to be honored this year. Here's the write up from the TOTW page.

John Ivy
Ivy averaged 24.7 points and 3.0 steals per game in a 3-0 week for the Golden Eagles. He shot 51 percent from the floor, 9-for-20 from 3-point range and 7-for-8 from the line, while averaging 4.0 rebounds.

Here's the link to the complete TOTW:      http://d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2012-13/week10

So far this year, Gordon Lyons, Jake Simmons, Jeremy Smith and John Ivy were named the the TOTW.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2013, 08:00:45 PM
Oneonta falls 69-66 at Hamilton, missing a tying trey attempt at the buzzer. OSt out fast to 28-15 lead. Continentals by nine with 6:31 to go. Oneonta pulls within a point and misses go-head try with five seconds to play. Hams hit two FTs at 3.8 seconds. Z. Mager and Zubic 15 pts each for OSt. Z. Dignan 11 pts, 7 rebs


Cortland over Brockport 36-20 at half, shooting 14x28 from the field. H. Hefele with 11 pts, K. McMahon 10 pts

Oswego takes 27-24 edge on Geneseo at half.  Geneseo in charge at 24-19 before dry spell. Neither side scores in final 2:49 of the period. Lakers 11x30 from the field, Gens 10x23. H. Ward 8 pts, 5 rebs for OSt. J. McKenna, J. Jones, C. Fedge 5 pts apiece for Knights
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2013, 09:24:03 PM

Oswego blowing away Geneseo 59-39 with just over six minutes left

Cortland holding off bold Brockport approaches 58-51 in late going. RDragons lead by as many as 19 before Port within 54-51 on J. Ivy, B. Caruthers shooting
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2013, 09:32:04 PM
Here come the Golden Eagles now down 62-61 with 51 seconds to go.

3 straight turnovers. First by Cortland's Jeremy Smith, then Port's Bobby Bell returns the favor and turns it over, followed by another turnover by Dragons Jesse Winter. Port takes a time out with 14 seconds left and then promptly turns it over. John Ivy's turn. Now Cortland with the ball and 8 seconds left  with a timeout. Port has to foul twice to send Cortland's Lamard Herron to the line. He makes them both with 6 seconds on the clock and now a 3 point Cortland lead. Cortland time out. Port's Caruthers nails a 3 at the buzzer and we're headed to overtime.



Oswego topples Geneseo 70-50.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2013, 09:41:07 PM

Brockport and Cortland to OT on triple-teamed B. Caruthers' triple at the reg buzzer to make it 64 all
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
Oswego 70 Geneseo 50

Lakers get double figures from 4 players led by Daniel Ross with 10 points and 7 rebounds. Hayden Ward with 15 points and 7 boards as well. Chris Gilkes with 13 points and a team high of 8 rebounds with Kyle Covley adding 11. Oswego down by 5 in a back and forth 1st half score the final 8 points of the period to go into the locker room up 27-24. Lakers stretch their lead to 8 at 38-30 but Blue Knights close to within 4 on several occcasions. Up 43-38, the Lakers would deliver the knockout with an 18-2 run that would leave no doubt about the outcome. 

Geneseo got 13 points from Jordan Jones to lead the Blue Knights. Connor Fedge had 12 points and 5 rebounds.

*Correction Live stats last night had Ross with 17 points and 7 rebounds. Box score and press release show him with only 10 points. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2013, 10:06:03 PM
Cortland 85, Brockport 75 ........final in OT. Simply a tremendous effort by the Port!!  Consider this: Corts shoot 51 percent (26x51)from the field, make 9 of 21 triples, hold 48-26 rebounding margin ..........Some very lackadaisical RDragons play over the second half, and some mighty Golden Eagles drive. CSt with 21 turnovers to 10 for its gritty guest, whose B. Caruthers is marveeeeelous. And J. Ivy has 15 second half points. As we previously indicated, it was 41-22 a minute into the second half.

Bport held only its second lead of the game (Eagles were up three minutes into the match) at 66-65 to start OT. K. McMahon ties it from the stripe for Cortland and J. Smith nails a trey at 3:55 for a 69-66. It was basically the J. Winter free throw show from there. He makes a bunch the rest of the way and finishes 13x16 from the line. Four throws hikes the lead to seven. Port draws within 77-71 on D. Klein's three ball at 0:42, but Smith FTs extends the lead.

Winter was very much under wraps -- Caruthers a major shadow, but still counted 19 pts with 8 assts. H. Hefele with 18 pts, 8 rebs, 4 assts; K. McMahon 16 pts and 15 rebs; Smith 14 pts. L. Herron a big contributor as well, his two FTs near the end of reg necessitating Caruthers desperation heave under heavy guard from the top of the key that sent the game to extra minutes. RDragons 24x33 free throwing

Ivy finished with 27 pts(8x18fg, 5x9 3s) and 8 rebs. Caruthers with 24 pts(10x19fg, 3x5 3s). Port 28x69fg, 12x35 3s, 7x12ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 29, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
BENGALSRULE PLEASE NOTE: TEAM OF THE WEEK NOTIFICATION  Note color: Brockport State Green


I see magicman...I see :-[

From tonights results it looks like 'Yac semi's & championship is heading closer to the 315! Hopefully my BENGALS can help change that this weekend! Tha 'Yac has never been this wacky!! (Note: The SUNYAC is still ranked 16th in Massey ratings!!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 30, 2013, 09:09:04 AM

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I see magicman...I see :-[

From tonights results it looks like 'Yac semi's & championship is heading closer to the 315! Hopefully my BENGALS can help change that this weekend! Tha 'Yac has never been this wacky!! (Note: The SUNYAC is still ranked 16th in Massey ratings!!)
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Actually, if you look closer, could be the 607! But still plenty of ball left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 29, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
BENGALSRULE PLEASE NOTE: TEAM OF THE WEEK NOTIFICATION  Note color: Brockport State Green


I see magicman...I see :-[

From tonights results it looks like 'Yac semi's & championship is heading closer to the 315! Hopefully my BENGALS can help change that this weekend! Tha 'Yac has never been this wacky!! (Note: The SUNYAC is still ranked 16th in Massey ratings!!)

I think you mean the 607 as that's where the new first place team resides. Cardinals still have a chance to change those numbers to 518, but may need a little help.

Massey had the YAC at 15th on Tuesday morning...we dropped a spot.

I stated several days ago that I thought Geneseo would get overtaken for the top spot. Red Dragons and Lakers wasted no time making that a reality last night as Cortland now moves into 1st place.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2013, 07:24:27 PM
Well 607 (Cortland ) is "close"r to the 315 (Oswego) 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 30, 2013, 08:28:38 PM
Big win for Oswego State last night against Geneseo. I think it will be Oswego and Cortland in the SUNYAC Championship but who knows. Brockport almost pulled off an Upset over Cortland. still made a great comeback against a very good Cortland team
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 31, 2013, 01:32:27 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 30, 2013, 08:28:38 PM
Big win for Oswego State last night against Geneseo. I think it will be Oswego and Cortland in the SUNYAC Championship but who knows. Brockport almost pulled off an Upset over Cortland. still made a great comeback against a very good Cortland team

I agree with the first part ... "Big Win". :D

Not so fast on part II though... "Oswego and Cortland in the SUNYAC Championship" >:(

You are right...  "who knows?" ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 03:20:00 PM
Four games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC. All games start at 8:00 PM.

Potsdam State at New Paltz State

Bears won the first go around in Potsdam two weeks ago as the teams played a double overtime thriller. Hawks looking to return the favor. Both teams playing for pride as the playoffs look to be unreachable. Oddsmakers have made the Hawks a 6 point favorite. That sounds about right. New Platz wns 87-82.


Cortland State at Fredonia State

Red Dragons back in first place for the first time since early December. They won't want to have a letdown here against 9th place Fredonia. Point spread has Cortland favored by 15. I think it might be more. Red Dragons go to their bench midway through the 2nd half to rest up for the Saturday matinee against Buffalo State. Cortland takes this one 83-61.


Oswego State at Buffalo State

This is the game of the night as the Bengals look to avenge an earlier loss to the Lakers in Oswego. Both teams looking to improve their seeding and a Buffalo State win would tie them with Oswego. Oddsmakers have favored the Bengals by a single point. I'd feel better about this game if a certain Buffalo State big man was back on the roster, but I don't see him listed. Lakers now have the full time services of D2 tranfer Daniel Ross who has moved into a starting position and is averaging double figures in his last 3 games. Tough game to pick, I think the Lakers have the edge here with their inside game but I'm going to go with the Bengals and their backcourt duo of Simmons and Epps. Bengals in a close one 83-80.


Plattsburgh State at Oneonta State

Plattsburgh makes their final road trip of the season and needs to win both games this weekend if they have any hopes of claiming the top spot in the conference race. The Red Dragons will try and pull off another upset of a playoff bound team. Plattsburgh won at home 2 weeks ago by an 82-75 score but Oneonta played nothing like a last place team in that encounter. The Cards opened up double digit leads in the 1st half and the 2nd but each time Oneonta was able to come back and actually had the lead at 65-64 and 67-66 with only 4:30 remaining in the game. Plattsburgh's back up point guard, Mike Mitchell, scored 14 points in the final 9 minutes to bail the Cardinals out, but if they give Oneonta those same opportunities tonight the Red Dragons' Zach Mager and company may just turn the tables. Mager, only a sophomore, is the 6th leading scorer in the YAC with 18.4 ppg and put up some big numbers against Plattsburgh in the 1st game with 26 points and 8 rebounds. He got plenty of help from Jackson Zuvic and Frankie Kelly. The Cardinals can put points up in a hurry and if they do get out to a sizeable lead they need to focus on taking care of business. Oneonta, with basically no chance for postseason action, will play all of their remaining games as if they were  playoff games. They're going to make someone pay, i hope it's not the Cards tonight. The point spread has Plattsburgh favored by 8 but I think the Cards will win by double digits. It won't be a blowout though it'll be 78-67.   


   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 08:25:29 PM
Early scores:

Buffalo State leads Oswegp 33-23 with 5"31 left in the 1st half

New Platz leads Potsdam 23-10 with 9:35 left in the 1st half

Plattsburgh leads Oneonta 21-14 with 11:32 left in the 1st half

Cortland game hasn't started yet as the bus had mechanical problems and the girls game started late.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 08:37:58 PM
Buffalo State leads Oswego 43-31 at the half.

Bengals' Jake Simmons with a big half leads all scorers with 18 points and 5 rebounds as he goes 7x9 from the field with a pair of 3's.. Rod Epps has 12 points and Chris Castren has 7.

Kyle Covley with 9 points leads the Lakers. Sean Michele with 8 and Hayden Ward with 6.


Cortland game is just underway.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 08:47:31 PM
Plattsburgh leads Oneonta 44-32 at the break.

John Perez leads the Cardinals with 9 points,4 rebounds and 3 steals. Kalik Parker and Jordan Moody both have 8 points. Ezra Hodgson with 6 on a pair of 3 pointers.

Zach Mager with a big 1st half for Oneonta leads all scorers with 13 points. Terrence Parker has 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 08:53:04 PM
New Paltz over Potsdam 37-29 at the half.  Bears down early 23-8 fought back to tie it up at 25 on a Colin Peterson triple with 5:48 to play. Hawks ended the half on a 12-4 run tomake it an 8 point margin.

Matt Devine with 10 points to lead the Hawks. Taylor Sowah with 7.

Curtis Pierce and brandon Williams with 7 each to lead the Bears. No Rob Duquette and no Mark Lake. I knew Duquette was out with an ankle injury but no word on why Lake is missing. Bears definitely shorthanded in this one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
Cortland and Fredonia in a close battle as the Blue Devils lead 23-21 with 5:35 left in the 1st period.

Buff State still up 51-41 over Oswego with 15:40 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 09:11:51 PM
Cortland leads Fredonia at the half 32-28.

Jesse Winter with 8 points. Brian Manning and Kevin McMahon with 7 each for the Red Dragons.

Dalton Kashmer with 10 and Robert Lyles with 6 for the Blue Devils.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 09:16:29 PM
Updates:

Plattsburgh leads Oneonta  60-51 with 10:40 to play

Buffalo State over Oswego 67-54 with 7:17 to go

New Paltz leads Potsdam  65-46 as the Hawks are pulling away now with 8:41 left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 09:28:21 PM
Buffalo State leads Oswego 75-59 with 4:07 to go.

Plattsburgh leads Oneonta 71-54 with 5:26 to go.

New Paltz up on Potsdam 78-56 with 3:23 to play.

Cortland 32-30 with 1 minute gone in the 2nd half.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2013, 09:38:57 PM
New Paltz 83 Potsdam 65 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 09:40:23 AM
I tried to post this at 9:45 last night and thought my computer was acting up. Switched to another computer and ran into the same problem. Realized it must be the site having a few problems and then shortly after that a message would appear that the site had crashed. Never been down that long as far as I can remember. Sent Pat a message that I was like a junkie with out a fix. Help!!!

What would we do if there was suddenly no D3hoops. That's a scary thought.  I don't even want to think about it.

Anyway, final scores:

Plattsburgh defeats Oneonta 86-77

Buffalo State defeats Oswego 88-81

That's 12 hours later that I intended to post this, which is about how long the site was down.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
Cortland conquers stubborn host Fredonia 65-51. After Freds make 41-40 approach wth 11:21 to play, RDragons go on an 11-0 run featuring K. McMahon igniting bucket followed by  L. Herron slam and J. Winters trey at 8:52. By 6:02 the margin swells to 57-41. Freds climb within 10, then held off. Winter with 15 pts(4x9fg, 3x8 3s, 4x5ft); McMahon 14 pts(5x8fg), 6 rebs; J. Smith 12 pts; Herron 10 pts(4x7fg), 3 assts, 5 rebs; B. Manning 7 rebs. Corts 22x53fg, 6x26 3s, 15x20ft. Freds D. Kashmer 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assts, 3 stls. Hosts 16x56fg, 7x24 3s. CSt, winners of eight straight, at Buff St. this afternoon
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2013, 12:25:26 PM

Buffalo St. at home has its way with Oswego although needing free throw resusitation down the stretch to thwart a Lakers comeback. Buffs hold 16 point lead just over four minutes from the wire before C. Gilkes-led uprising brings Lakers within two possessions at 1:09. J. Simmos in his usual top form with 31 pts(9x12fg, 3x5 3s, 10x10ft) for Bengals. R. Epps with 16 pts(4x17fg). BS 26x55fg, 7x17 3s, 29x42ft. Gilkes with career night, 26 pts(8x18fg, 10x14ft), 14 rebs. Nets 24 pts over closing 20 minutes. K. Covley has 14 pts(3x9 3s); D. Ross 12 pts(3x17fg); H. Ward 6 pts(2x7fg), 6 rebs

Plattsburgh needs to ward off stiff closing rush from homestanding Oneonta. Pburghers in command at 71-54 ....OSt within 81-77. Cards C. Manning clutch thereafter. Plattsburgh 35x58fg, 8x15 3s. J. Perez 20 pts(9x13fg), 7 rebs in 18 minutes; J. Moody 13 pts; E. Hodgson 11 pts(3x4 3s); K. Parker 10 pts(4x5fg); Manning 8 assts, 3 stls, 7 pts. Oneonta 22x55fg. J. Zuvic 23 pts(10x18fg); Z. Mager 21 pts(12x12ft), 5 rebs; F. Kelly 13 pts, 5 assts, 10 trnvrs; J. Dignan 10 pts, 5 assts

New Paltz keeps Potsdam on its back throughout. Hawks firing at 31x61fg clip. M. Devine 15 pts; S. Taylor 13 pts, 6 rebs; K. Donovan 12 pts; T. Sowah 11 pts; K. Roach 11 pts. Pdam's B. Williams nets 16 pts(7x10fg), grabs 6 boards; C. Pierce 14 pts; J. Lambert 11 pts, 4 assts

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 03:50:23 PM
Full slate of games today in the conference:


Potsdam State at Oneonta State   4:00 PM

Just 2 weeks ago the Bears were on their longest winning streak in several years, but once again the tide has turned and now they've lost 4 straight since then. Tonight they take on last place Oneonta and the Red Dragons, despite a losing streak of 8 games since their last win, have been playing better ball than the Bears. Even the oddsmakers see a trend as they have Oneonta favored by 2 points. Potsdam won their first meeting by 20 points but the shorthanded Bears will be hard pressed to repeat that effort today. I think Oneonta gets their 2nd YAC win of the season today by a score of 74-70.



Oswego State at Fredonia State  4:00 PM

The Lakers won't be in a good mood today after losing in Buffalo last night. The Blue Devils will feel their wrath. I'm not sure why Hayden Ward sat out most of the 2nd half last night against the Bengals but I don't think it was injury related. I could be wrong about that but we'll find out today. Don't know why you have one of the candidates for YAC Player of the Year on the bench in a game you need to win. Fredonia played Cortland close for about 30 minutes before the Red Dragons pulled away. I think the same thing will happen today. Point spread has the Lakers favored by 8 but I think they 'll win by a larger margin. Oswego 76 Fredonia 63.


Cortland State at Buffalo State  4:00 PM

Once again the Bengals are involved in the biggest game of the day. And just like yesterday's opponent they will be trying to avenge an earlier loss. With 5 losses in the conference in the first round robin the Bengals are looking to defeat the 3rd team that handed them one of those losses having already dispatched Plattsburgh and Oswego at home. Buffalo State has moved into a tie with Oswego for the 4th seed and need a win here to keep pace. The Red Dragons will be a tougher obstacle to overcome however, as they can come at you with an array of 3 point shooters that are unmatched in the conference. Cortland maintains a slim hold on first place and has reeled off 8 wins in a row. Oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 5 point road favorite in this contest but I'm going to predict an upset in this one. I think this will be another high scoring game with the Bengals winning the track meet 91- 87.


Plattsburgh State at New Paltz State  4:00 PM

The Hawks finally broke back into the win column last night after 5 conference losses in a row. They are still a game and a half out of the final playoff position. Plattsburgh has won 6 of their last 7 SUNYAC contests and cannot afford a loss here if they want to stay in contact with Cortland. Plattsburgh won their first meeting 2 weeks ago in the Burgh 75-70 and despite building double digit leads on several occasions couldn't reall put the Hawks away. Cards have usually played well in Hawk Center however, and I think they take care of business again today. Oddsmakers favor the Cards by a slim 2 point margin and I anticipate a close game with Plattsburgh on top 85-81.


Brockport State at Geneseo State  8:00 PM

The final game of the day has the Golden Eagles traveling over to Geneseo to take on their travel partners. Brockport is feeling a little pressure now as they have slipped into the final playoff spot and would like to get a little more breathing room on New Paltz in case the Hawks make a late run. The Eagles would also like to climb a little higher in the standings and possibly overtake Buffalo State or Oswego. Geneseo now finds itself in 2nd place for the first time all year and a loss here could drop them into 3rd. Oddsmakers have made the Blue Knights a 6 point favorite but Brockport has had their number over the past 7 years as they hold a 12-4 advantage in this series. Port has also won 4 of the last 5 meeting including their January matchup. I think that Brockport might pull off the upset here so I'll go with them walking out of Alumni Fieldhouse with an 86-83 win 
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2013, 04:34:42 PM
Cortland playing very well with 48-35 halftime lead ....... B. Manning with 16 pts. for RDragons. His three straight triples midway through the period overcame early Buffalo State ruling ........K. McMahon 9 pts and L. Herron a big 8 pts including four off steals. R. Epps with 13 pts for Buff St. J. Simmons looking like the forgotten Bengal in BS offense. Has 6 pts. Corts J. Winter also looking a bit worn. Scoreless in few minutes. CSt certainly looking fresher off Friday night road action
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
Potsdam and Oneonta tied at 33 apiece at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
Oswego 32 Fredonia 22 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 04:44:17 PM
Plattsburgh 35 New Paltz 31 at the half.

Ezra Hodgson with 9 and Jordan Moody with 8 to lead the Cards in a tightly contested 1st period.

Shareef Taylor with 9 and Matt Devine with 8 for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:16:11 PM
Updates:

Cortland leads Buff State 69-58 with 8:34 to go

Potsdam leads Oneonta 65-64 with 1:05 to go

Oswego leads Fredonia 50-37 midway thru the 2nd

Plattsburgh leads New Paltz 55-49 with 11:16 left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:21:45 PM
Potsdam defeats Oneonta 73-66


Tied at 60 with 5:48 to go the Bears take charge led by Curtis Pierce with 6 points and Josh Lambert with 4 to pull out the win. Glad i was wrong on this one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2013, 05:30:43 PM
Pierce certainly filled the scoresheet, 27 points, 13 rebounds 5 assts, three steals.  Bears played w/o starters Mark lake Jr. & Colin Peterson, but got big games from Brandon Williams and Zac Adams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2013, 05:32:44 PM
Cortland 88, Buffalo St. 72  goes final. Ninth straight victory

First place Corts prevail 61-42 out of the half, then watch BS claw back within 65-56. Big stuff by K. McMahon cools the Bengals, a turnover-prone bunch who failed to make even more hay upon RDragons drought. CSt gathers its wits and gradually pulls away. J. Smith a nifty final half and finishes with 22 pts(7x15fg, 4x8 3s), 4 assts.

Two other 20 point Dragons -- K. McMahon 21(9x11fg), 5 rebs; B. Manning 22 pts(7x13fg), 9 rebs. McMahon continues his 60 percent-plus for the season. Benefits from CSt penetration from several sources. McMahon has been a consistent revelation this winter after a so-so past. And L. Herron (10 pts) has been a tremendous addition. And don't underestimate Tommy Span's ability to supply his many hands with sufficient playing minutes.

Cortland unloads from the field at at 33x61 clip, 8x20 3s, 14x18ft and 36-33 board advantage. Still, 17 turnovers above the norm. BS with 21 turnovers, 26x59fg, 4x15 3s, 16x22ft. J. Simmons, obviously the target of a matchup defense, winds up with 18 pts(6x13fg). R. Epps with 19 pts(8x19fg). Buffs led this one 23-17 till Manning lands three from past the arc.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:35:10 PM
Updates:

Plattsburgh leads New Paltz 69-63 with 3:!5 to go

Oswego leads fredonia 64-48 late in thee 2nd pperioed

Cortland defeats Buff State 88-72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:43:08 PM
Oswego State wins but I couldn't get the final score as there were no live stats and the video has gone blank while i was watching the Plattsburgh game but I'm guessing it was by about 20.

Final score for the Oswego game was 68-50.

Plattsburgh and New Paltz are all tied up as Shareef Taylor hits a big 3 pointer with 39 seconds left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2013, 05:49:41 PM


Tough one for Magic .....M. Devine connects on trey at 0:04 for 75-72 New Paltz win over Plattsburgh ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
New Paltz gets a big 3 pointer from Matt Devine with 4 seconds left after a Plattsburgh miss on their possession and the Hawks come from behind and defeat Plattsburgh 75-72. Not a happy camper about the turn of events. >:( :o 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2013, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
New Paltz gets a big 3 pointer from Matt Devine with 4 seconds left after a Plattsburgh miss on their possession and the Hawks come from behind and defeat Plattsburgh 75-72. Not a happy camper about the turn of events. >:( :o

Could well mean a road game for Cards in the Playoffs.  Devine is a stud.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2013, 07:30:45 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 02, 2013, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
New Paltz gets a big 3 pointer from Matt Devine with 4 seconds left after a Plattsburgh miss on their possession and the Hawks come from behind and defeat Plattsburgh 75-72. Not a happy camper about the turn of events. >:( :o

Could well mean a road game for Cards in the Playoffs.  Devine is a stud.

Go ahead bear, try and make my day worse by giving me THAT to think about.

The teams that would seem most likely to make that a possibility are 2 games behind us and with 5 home games left I think the Cards will finish no lower than 3rd place. Today probably cost us a chance to be the top seed because Cortland is looking better and better to claim that prize. Even if we had run the table, we still needed some help as Cortland held the tiebreaker over us. Now if we run the table, we'll be ok against Geneseo, but will need Cortland to lose not only to Plattsburgh but to Oswego as well. I still think we can get a bye, but unless we stumble badly, third place is the worst we will end up. Even fourth place still keeps us at home for the 1st round. Actually third or fourth might not be too bad because I'd get to see another home game. ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 02, 2013, 10:38:29 PM
Magic, any idea why the YAC got rid of the #7 and #8 for the playoffs.  Mirror image of the LEC who for this year is going back to all 8 teams after having only 6 the last couple years.
Also, call me crazy, but in tournaments with only 6 teams (2 bye's) if you can't get the 1 seed I think having #3 is the next best alternative.  There's usually not much difference between a #2 & a #3, and with a #3 you get a home game in round 1, so you get to see your team again AND your team can get the playoff jitters by playing the 1st round game, something they can't do sitting at home with the bye.  The last 2 years Western Connecticut was the #2 seed in the LEC tourney and lost both games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2013, 03:22:35 AM
Quote from: 7express on February 02, 2013, 10:38:29 PM
Magic, any idea why the YAC got rid of the #7 and #8 for the playoffs.  Mirror image of the LEC who for this year is going back to all 8 teams after having only 6 the last couple years.
Also, call me crazy, but in tournaments with only 6 teams (2 bye's) if you can't get the 1 seed I think having #3 is the next best alternative.  There's usually not much difference between a #2 & a #3, and with a #3 you get a home game in round 1, so you get to see your team again AND your team can get the playoff jitters by playing the 1st round game, something they can't do sitting at home with the bye.  The last 2 years Western Connecticut was the #2 seed in the LEC tourney and lost both games.

I'm not sure why they went to 6 teams this year but I think it had to do with rewarding the top seed for winning the regular season crown. By giving the top 2 seeds a bye and giving the #1 seed the home court advantage for the semi's and finals it also settled the hosting situation right away. In the past, 8 would play 1, 7 would play 2, and so on down the line on the higher seed's home court. The highest remaining seed would then get to host the final four. You never knew where the semis and finals were going to be until the quarterfinals were over. Several times we've had the 8 seed beat the 1 seed in the first round and mess up the best laid plans. Now at the end of the regular season you know where the final 4 will be played and the teams can make their travel plans accordingly. If you book your hotel rooms and then lose in the first round, you still have time to cancel your reservations without penalty.

I agree that the 3 seed is probably just as good as the 2 seed. And as I mentioned in my post a 4th seed isn't bad either because  you get to host a home game also. I think you meant to say your team can get rid of the playoff jitters by hosting a first round game instead of sitting at home which I also agree with.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 03, 2013, 08:01:35 AM
I suspect it's also a cost/time away from class issue. 

It's tough to justify in these times spending several thousand dollars (bus, meals, lodging if the game is too far away, etc.) on a team that finished 7th or 8th in a 10 team league and had a losing overall record. 

If say Potsdam were to play at Buff State, or Brockport play at Plattsburgh, those trips require an overnight stay, esp in mid-February. That adds even more to the cost.

Not to mention the surprising number of times in the past decade when an 8 has beaten 1 or 7 has beaten 2, trashing an entire season of effort in a mid-week trap game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 03, 2013, 08:01:35 AM
If say Potsdam were to play at Buff State,

Heck come Feb 17th, I hope we can say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-\
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on February 03, 2013, 11:20:38 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 02, 2013, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 02, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
New Paltz gets a big 3 pointer from Matt Devine with 4 seconds left after a Plattsburgh miss on their possession and the Hawks come from behind and defeat Plattsburgh 75-72. Not a happy camper about the turn of events. >:( :o

Could well mean a road game for Cards in the Playoffs.  Devine is a stud.

Bear - have to say your Potsdam group are a battle weathered group...sorry to see so many of them beat up...I saw pierce talk to coach rejniak at the end of the game - kids have a lot of class.

Haven't felt like posting because the Hawks had given away too many close opportunities and I thought we were done for the season. Coach rejniak shuffled his starting line up and is now starting three of his freshman.

Donovan seems to run the offense much better - seen better ball movement in the last three games than the majority of the season. Manning, with all his aggressive d gave him trouble yesterday, but Donovan will learn. Also have seen a lot of growth from Kevin Roach.

So happy for Shereef Taylor and Devine - Reef logged his 4th dbl/dbl of the season and had some monster blocks. Missed some key free throws but sank the big 3. Devine was the hero ... Would love for these two to keep it going for their senior year and shock the YAC... We will see... Never seem to know which team will show up.

All I know is hawks have the most dangerous frosh class in the league - will be fun to watch them develop - regardless how the season shakes out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 03, 2013, 03:56:12 PM
New Paltz is making things interesting but i dont think they will get in the SUNYAC tourny. With game at Oswego, Geneseo and Cortland and a home game vs Buff state. even if they were to beat Buff State i still dont see them getting in. Heres how i think the SUNYAC tournament will look.
1. Cortland
2. Geneseo
3. Oswego
4. Plattsburgh  I think the last regular season game will determine who gets the 3 seed Oswego is going to Plattsburgh.
5.Buffalo State  I think they will win 4 out of 5 heading into the tournament
6. Brockport
I think in the Sunyac Tourny Oswego beats Brockport first round and Buffalo State beats Plattsburgh. Sorry Magicman ;). which will set up Oswego at Geneseo and Cortland vs Buffalo State. I think the championship game will end up being Oswego at Cortland. Cortland i think will be the Sunyac Champs. Say Cortland loses in the championship i do think they will get an AT Large bid though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2013, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 03, 2013, 03:56:12 PM
New Paltz is making things interesting but i dont think they will get in the SUNYAC tourny. With game at Oswego, Geneseo and Cortland and a home game vs Buff state. even if they were to beat Buff State i still dont see them getting in. Heres how i think the SUNYAC tournament will look.
1. Cortland
2. Geneseo
3. Oswego
4. Plattsburgh  I think the last regular season game will determine who gets the 3 seed Oswego is going to Plattsburgh.
5.Buffalo State  I think they will win 4 out of 5 heading into the tournament
6. Brockport
I think in the Sunyac Tourny Oswego beats Brockport first round and Buffalo State beats Plattsburgh. Sorry Magicman ;). which will set up Oswego at Geneseo and Cortland vs Buffalo State. I think the championship game will end up being Oswego at Cortland. Cortland i think will be the Sunyac Champs. Say Cortland loses in the championship i do think they will get an AT Large bid though.

That's a lot of thinking there, my friend, but I'll respectfully disagree with you for the time being. ;D Still a lot of hoops left to be played!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 03, 2013, 08:29:36 PM
Quote from: hawkball on February 03, 2013, 11:20:38 AM

Bear - have to say your Potsdam group are a battle weathered group...sorry to see so many of them beat up...I saw pierce talk to coach rejniak at the end of the game - kids have a lot of class.


Thanks Hawk, - two starters out vs. NP & three vs. Oneonta.  Pierce is a warrior, and one of the finest kids ever to grace the boards of Maxcy, just wish he had a better supporting cast.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2013, 05:18:20 AM
Here are Massey's ranking of the top East Region teams through games of 2-2-13.
The number after the team is Massey's National ranking. He may update these later today so the numbers may change a bit.

1   Rochester         7
2   Cortland           26
3   Stevens           50
4   NYU                54
5   Hobart             56
6   Geneseo          86
7   Oswego           87
8   Union              88
9   Plattsburgh      91
10 Ithaca             99
11 Buffalo St.       105
12 Brockport        130
13 Clarkson          136
14 St John Fisher  142
15 Nazareth         147
16 Skidmore         157     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 04, 2013, 11:47:55 AM
Here are the 6 teams in order i think the NCAA will pick for the first Regional Rankings!
1. Rochester 19-1
2. Cortland 17-3
3. Stevens 17-3 Conference 11-2
4. Hobart 13-6 Conference 9-1
5. NYU 13-7 Conference 3-6 I think beating Rochester might get them 4th but 3-6 in the UAA really hurts
6. Oswego 15-5 Conference 8-5 I put them here because of the quality wins they have Brockport twice, Geneseo, Ithaca, Buffalo State.
I would NOT put Union, Clarkson because they havent beat Many good teams. Union has 1 maybe 2 good wins Skidmore and Clarkson. I think you could definetly argue Ithaca because they beat Hobart, Stevens and if you count Fisher twice and LaRoche.
What are your guys opinions?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 04, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 04, 2013, 11:47:55 AM
Here are the 6 teams in order i think the NCAA will pick for the first Regional Rankings!
1. Rochester 19-1
2. Cortland 17-3
3. Stevens 17-3 Conference 11-2
4. Hobart 13-6 Conference 9-1
5. NYU 13-7 Conference 3-6 I think beating Rochester might get them 4th but 3-6 in the UAA really hurts
6. Oswego 15-5 Conference 8-5 I put them here because of the quality wins they have Brockport twice, Geneseo, Ithaca, Buffalo State.
I would NOT put Union, Clarkson because they havent beat Many good teams. Union has 1 maybe 2 good wins Skidmore and Clarkson. I think you could definetly argue Ithaca because they beat Hobart, Stevens and if you count Fisher twice and LaRoche.
What are your guys opinions?

I've never been very clear on how the regional ranking treat members of the UAA.  Since their league is spread from Boston to St. Louis and down to Atlanta, do league games count as "in region"?   If so, NYU's in region record sucks.  While a win over Rochester is great on their overall resume, the UAA road trips are brutal and Rochester was ""likely" to lose one of the games.  In fact, until 2009 Rochester had never swept the Brandeis/NYU weekend and while they did it again in 2011, they were swept in 2010 and 2012. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2013, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on February 04, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
I've never been very clear on how the regional ranking treat members of the UAA.  Since their league is spread from Boston to St. Louis and down to Atlanta, do league games count as "in region"?   If so, NYU's in region record sucks.  While a win over Rochester is great on their overall resume, the UAA road trips are brutal and Rochester was ""likely" to lose one of the games.  In fact, until 2009 Rochester had never swept the Brandeis/NYU weekend and while they did it again in 2011, they were swept in 2010 and 2012. 

Ethelred,
All games in the UAA are considered in region games. NYU has an overall record  of 13-7 and since every one of their games was a regional contest, that is their regional record as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 04, 2013, 01:16:47 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2013, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on February 04, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
I've never been very clear on how the regional ranking treat members of the UAA.  Since their league is spread from Boston to St. Louis and down to Atlanta, do league games count as "in region"?   If so, NYU's in region record sucks.  While a win over Rochester is great on their overall resume, the UAA road trips are brutal and Rochester was ""likely" to lose one of the games.  In fact, until 2009 Rochester had never swept the Brandeis/NYU weekend and while they did it again in 2011, they were swept in 2010 and 2012. 

Ethelred,
All games in the UAA are considered in region games. NYU has an overall record  of 13-7 and since every one of their games was a regional contest, that is their regional record as well.
Thanks Magic.  Had a feeling that was how it was done, but it's one of those things that I can never remember.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2013, 08:35:27 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 03, 2013, 03:22:35 AM
Quote from: 7express on February 02, 2013, 10:38:29 PM
Magic, any idea why the YAC got rid of the #7 and #8 for the playoffs.  Mirror image of the LEC who for this year is going back to all 8 teams after having only 6 the last couple years.
Also, call me crazy, but in tournaments with only 6 teams (2 bye's) if you can't get the 1 seed I think having #3 is the next best alternative.  There's usually not much difference between a #2 & a #3, and with a #3 you get a home game in round 1, so you get to see your team again AND your team can get the playoff jitters by playing the 1st round game, something they can't do sitting at home with the bye.  The last 2 years Western Connecticut was the #2 seed in the LEC tourney and lost both games.

I'm not sure why they went to 6 teams this year but I think it had to do with rewarding the top seed for winning the regular season crown. By giving the top 2 seeds a bye and giving the #1 seed the home court advantage for the semi's and finals it also settled the hosting situation right away. In the past, 8 would play 1, 7 would play 2, and so on down the line on the higher seed's home court. The highest remaining seed would then get to host the final four. You never knew where the semis and finals were going to be until the quarterfinals were over. Several times we've had the 8 seed beat the 1 seed in the first round and mess up the best laid plans. Now at the end of the regular season you know where the final 4 will be played and the teams can make their travel plans accordingly. If you book your hotel rooms and then lose in the first round, you still have time to cancel your reservations without penalty.

I agree that the 3 seed is probably just as good as the 2 seed. And as I mentioned in my post a 4th seed isn't bad either because  you get to host a home game also. I think you meant to say your team can get rid of the playoff jitters by hosting a first round game instead of sitting at home which I also agree with.     

From what I have learned... this is partially true. The biggest key was trying to give the top seeds an advantage not only in the tournament, but at getting a bid to the NCAA tournament. There was worry that a bad loss to a #8 or a #7 would possibly eliminate a team from the post season. So, here they will play probably a more competitive team in regards to SOS and such and thus a loss may not hurt as much.

In other words, there is a mentality of trying to protect the top teams for the post-season and not lose an extra bid if one is possible.

I am not sure I agree with this mentality as I think, especially in Division III, that everyone should participate if possible... but to each their own.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Fresh off the announcement on Hoopsville seconds ago,  the YAC gets back into the Top 25 as Cortland State checks in at #24 this week.

I had them entering my Top 25 last week in the Posters' Poll at number 25 and after they went 3-0 this past week, with 2 road wins, I moved them up to #22. Glad to see that the real poll followed my lead. ;D

I'd be willing to bet that Dave McHugh had Cortland in his Top 25 this week and possibly last week too as they had their first entrance into the ORV category at that time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2013, 09:32:28 PM
Cortland State's Kevin McMahon has been selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 2-2-13. Here's the write up from the YAC website.

Kevin McMahon, Cortland

"Kevin McMahon averaged 17 points and 9.3 rebounds per game and shot 74 percent from the field during a 3-0 week for the Red Dragons. He scored 16 points and grabbed a career-high 17 rebounds in an overtime win vs. Brockport Tuesday. He finished with 14 points in a win at Fredonia Friday and scored 21 points on 9-of-11 shooting in a win at Buffalo State Saturday. For the season, McMahon is averaging 13.2 points and 7.6 rebounds per game and is shooting 68 percent from the field. He ranks third nationally in Div. III in field goal percentage, prior to this past weekend's games."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Fresh off the announcement on Hoopsville seconds ago,  the YAC gets back into the Top 25 as Cortland State checks in at #24 this week.

I had them entering my Top 25 last week in the Posters' Poll at number 25 and after they went 3-0 this past week, with 2 road wins, I moved them up to #22. Glad to see that the real poll followed my lead. ;D

I'd be willing to bet that Dave McHugh had Cortland in his Top 25 this week and possibly last week too as they had their first entrance into the ORV category at that time.

Clearly you don't read my blog where I show my ballot and give my reasons for many of the teams...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2013, 10:03:24 PM
Quite the slam-bang outing in Geneseo Saturday night when Brockport edges the Knights 71-70 to give Cortland a bit of first place daylight. Geneseo by 30-29 at the half. Bport moves into a 10 point comfort zone with just under 11 minutes to play and remains on top till an A. Drescher '3' puts the hosts ahead by a point at 2:44. Back and forth  ......M. Lee's trey at 1:10 provides a Bport lead. G. Lyons' layup reverses that for the Gens at 0:11. Lee connects on a pair of free throws at 0:02 and the Eagles are Golden!

J. Ivy 21 pts(9x17fg); B. Caruthers 16 pts(4 3s); Lee 11 pts; B. Bell 8 pts, 7 rebs; D. Klein 7 assts for Bports
C. Fedge 19 pts(6x14fg), 5 rebs, 3 assts; Lyons 15 pts(5x8fg), 11 rebs, 3 assts; Drescher 12 pts(4x6fg, 3x5 3s); R. Riefenhauser 10 pts(4x5fg) fr Gens

Cortland 11-2 (17-3)
Geneseo 10-4 (14-7)
Plattsburgh 9-4 (13-7)
Oswego 8-5 (15-5)
Brockport 8-6 (13-8)
Buffalo St. 7-6 (12-7)
New Paltz 6-7 (8-12)
Potsdam 4-9 (8-12)
Fredonia 2-11 (6-13)
Oneonta 1-12 (2-18)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 05, 2013, 09:08:40 AM
I believe one of the main reasons why the SUNYAC basketball men's and women's basketball tournaments were reduced to six teams was to bring those tournaments more in line with other SUNYAC sports in terms of postseason participation.

With the basketball changes, no SUNYAC team tournament now has more than six teams qualifying. Here are the current qualifying formulas:

6 of 10 teams qualify in:

Men's Basketball
Women's Basketball
Men's Soccer
Women's Soccer
Softball
Women's Volleyball

6 of 9 teams qualify in:

Men's Ice Hockey

5 of 9 teams qualify in:

Women's Lacrosse (up from 4 in 2012)

4 of 7 teams qualify in:

Field Hockey
Men's Lacrosse
Baseball

This isn't to say that the other "benefits" of reducing the tournament from eight to six teams that have been mentioned by other posters aren't true - I just don't think they were the reasons behind the change. Personally, I like the fact that once the top seed is determined it's known where the semis/finals will be held - makes for easier planning.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2013, 10:26:16 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Fresh off the announcement on Hoopsville seconds ago,  the YAC gets back into the Top 25 as Cortland State checks in at #24 this week.

I had them entering my Top 25 last week in the Posters' Poll at number 25 and after they went 3-0 this past week, with 2 road wins, I moved them up to #22. Glad to see that the real poll followed my lead. ;D

I'd be willing to bet that Dave McHugh had Cortland in his Top 25 this week and possibly last week too as they had their first entrance into the ORV category at that time.

Clearly you don't read my blog where I show my ballot and give my reasons for many of the teams...

You're right I haven't read your blog but only because I didn't know you had one. I must have missed the fact that you did one. Looked for the link but couldn't find it. Would you be so kind as to post it here for me? Thanks. Good show last night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
They are on the Daily Dose:

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2013, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2013, 05:18:20 AM
Here are Massey's ranking of the top East Region teams through games of 2-2-13.
The number after the team is Massey's National ranking. He may update these later today so the numbers may change a bit.

1   Rochester         7
2   Cortland           26
3   Stevens           50
4   NYU                54
5   Hobart             56
6   Geneseo          86
7   Oswego           87
8   Union              88
9   Plattsburgh      91
10 Ithaca             99
11 Buffalo St.       105
12 Brockport        130
13 Clarkson          136
14 St John Fisher  142
15 Nazareth         147
16 Skidmore         157     

The top 6 teams on this list that I posted early Monday could very well be the regional rankings tomorrow or something very close to it.
The first three are pretty much a lock, but the next three could be rearranged slightly.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2013, 09:06:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 05, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
They are on the Daily Dose:

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/

Thanks Pat,
I finally found it after I punched Dave's name into the search box. I was a little confused because when the blog appeared it was for week #7. I finally got to where I wanted to go when I clicked on Top 25 news and notes and it brought up Dave's week #9 vote.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2013, 09:25:06 PM
Cortland routs  Oneonta 84-56 on a night J. Winter becomes all-time RDragon career scorer with 1,421 points. Senior with 13 points tonight, one of six double figure point producers. Winter 5x7fg, 3x5 3s, 7 assts. H. Hefele shows the way with 16 pts(6x9fg), 5 assts, 4 stls; K. McMahon 15 pts(7x11fg), 10 rebs; J. Smith 10 pts; L. Herron 10 pts(4x6fg, 2x2 3s); B. Manning 10 pts, 4 rebs.

Z. Mager with 20 pts(7x10fg), F. Kelly 11 pts.

Corts trail 21-20 at 11:16 .....Winter lands a trey and CSt powers way to 47-31 halftime margin. Only gets worse for OSt. At 28 point difference with 4:25 to go, bench unload. Gap eventually 30. Cortland 34x61fg, 12x23 3s, 7 turnovers

And T. Spanbauer notches 300th career coaching win at Cortland. Has 312 in all  .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2013, 09:36:43 PM

Oswego 74, New Paltz 57, final

Lakers break to 34-24 intermission lead and coast. H. Ward with 18 pts(6x12fg), 12 rebs in 26 minutes; A. Mirabito 12 pts(4x7fg, 2x5 3s) in 18 minutes; D. Ross 9 pts, 4 stls. OSt pulls a 26x58fg trigger, 7x25 3s. New Paltz gets 16 pts(7x16fg), 9 reb effort from M. Devine. K. Roach 13 pts; S. Taylor 5 pts(2x7fg) in 25 minutes. Hawks 18x55fg, 3x11 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2013, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Fresh off the announcement on Hoopsville seconds ago,  the YAC gets back into the Top 25 as Cortland State checks in at #24 this week.

I had them entering my Top 25 last week in the Posters' Poll at number 25 and after they went 3-0 this past week, with 2 road wins, I moved them up to #22. Glad to see that the real poll followed my lead. ;D

I'd be willing to bet that Dave McHugh had Cortland in his Top 25 this week and possibly last week too as they had their first entrance into the ORV category at that time.

Clearly you don't read my blog where I show my ballot and give my reasons for many of the teams...

I have now read the blog and saw how you voted in week #9. (Your week #10 vote hasn't been posted yet) It looks like I would have won my bet as you did move them into the Top 25 last week at #24. ;D And after a 3 win week I know you didn't drop them so I'm guessing you moved them up a spot or two. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2013, 10:07:17 PM

Jesse Winter in taking over as Cortland's career scoring leader passes Jason Thomas who from 1992-95 totaled 1,419 points. Interestingly, Thomas did not return for his senior season after a school record 628 point All-America junior campaign. Finished that regular season with quite a flourish with 49 (vs. Oneonta in OT) and 48 (vs. Plattsburgh) point outings.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on February 06, 2013, 11:19:22 AM
Poor poor showing from the Hawks last night... 5 pts from S. Taylor? D-I talent that can't hack it in D-III...frustrated fan this morning. Donovan looked like a freshman last night. Big man McCrae could be ROY but doesn't play to his strength. Boys show moments of brilliance but can't get it together.

Given the impending snow storm this weekend - I think at least Friday's game might get cancelled - and New Paltz will need a win over Fredonia to even be able to sniff the playoffs - nevermind a must-win over Buff State. Cortland will be looking to kill NP at home next Tuesday, after the upset a few weeks ago.

Was hoping they might be able to crack the top 6 - especially after a strong weekend - but the Hawks have flip-flopped too many times. Coach Rejniak needs to figure out how to get some consistency out of his players next season.

Will keep the faith - but that light is fading fast down in the Valley!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2013, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 05, 2013, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Fresh off the announcement on Hoopsville seconds ago,  the YAC gets back into the Top 25 as Cortland State checks in at #24 this week.

I had them entering my Top 25 last week in the Posters' Poll at number 25 and after they went 3-0 this past week, with 2 road wins, I moved them up to #22. Glad to see that the real poll followed my lead. ;D

I'd be willing to bet that Dave McHugh had Cortland in his Top 25 this week and possibly last week too as they had their first entrance into the ORV category at that time.

Clearly you don't read my blog where I show my ballot and give my reasons for many of the teams...

I have now read the blog and saw how you voted in week #9. (Your week #10 vote hasn't been posted yet) It looks like I would have won my bet as you did move them into the Top 25 last week at #24. ;D And after a 3 win week I know you didn't drop them so I'm guessing you moved them up a spot or two.

I haven't posted this weeks because a) Monday was busy to begin with and usually I can't get it posted until Tuesday... b) Tuesday was spent with the family in downtown Baltimore to celebrate something called a Super Bowl champion!... c) the computer which my blog is currently saved has decided that starting up is only a partial job... and I can't get to it right now. I may have to rewrite and post it tonight - sorry for the delay... but I did move Cortland up and I know a few other people who are now voting for Cortland as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2013, 06:01:48 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2013, 04:35:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 05, 2013, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Fresh off the announcement on Hoopsville seconds ago,  the YAC gets back into the Top 25 as Cortland State checks in at #24 this week.

I had them entering my Top 25 last week in the Posters' Poll at number 25 and after they went 3-0 this past week, with 2 road wins, I moved them up to #22. Glad to see that the real poll followed my lead. ;D

I'd be willing to bet that Dave McHugh had Cortland in his Top 25 this week and possibly last week too as they had their first entrance into the ORV category at that time.

Clearly you don't read my blog where I show my ballot and give my reasons for many of the teams...

I have now read the blog and saw how you voted in week #9. (Your week #10 vote hasn't been posted yet) It looks like I would have won my bet as you did move them into the Top 25 last week at #24. ;D And after a 3 win week I know you didn't drop them so I'm guessing you moved them up a spot or two.

I haven't posted this weeks because a) Monday was busy to begin with and usually I can't get it posted until Tuesday... b) Tuesday was spent with the family in downtown Baltimore to celebrate something called a Super Bowl champion!... c) the computer which my blog is currently saved has decided that starting up is only a partial job... and I can't get to it right now. I may have to rewrite and post it tonight - sorry for the delay... but I did move Cortland up and I know a few other people who are now voting for Cortland as well.

Thanks for the response Dave. I'm glad that Cortland is getting a little recognition. They are a solid team and probably have as many or more solid three point shooting options as any team in the country. Smith (51 3's,), Manning (46 3's), Winter (41 3's), and Hefele (30  3's) are all right around  38% to 40% from downtown and often all 4 are on the court at the same time. Pick your poison because you can't stop them all. With 5 seniors and a junior as the top 6 players in their rotation they have plenty of experience to rely on. i'm pretty sure they'll be in the tournament even if they don't get the automatic bid (which I'm hoping my Cardinals can somehow pull off) and as you stated earlier, here on this board, they could make a nice run into the sweet 16 or further. I like the fact that you show how you voted and why. Please continue to do so. I wish more voters did the same. Another good show on Hoopsville Monday night.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2013, 07:06:16 PM
Well... showing who I voted for and why is certainly a risk and it isn't without plenty of flashback :)... but I will continue doing it.

As for the show, thank you for your kind words and patronage. Please feel free to share your thoughts on the show with others... I always appreciate more viewers!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2013, 07:06:16 PM
Well... showing who I voted for and why is certainly a risk and it isn't without plenty of flashback :)... but I will continue doing it.

As for the show, thank you for your kind words and patronage. Please feel free to share your thoughts on the show with others... I always appreciate more viewers!

I know you get your share of that just from the comments I've seen on different boards when, in the past, you would reveal who you voted for and why. It started off early this year with the preseason vote if I remember correctly. To narrow 400+ teams down to a Top 25 is no easy feat. Especially early on when you don't have much data to go on, other than the research you do. Hard to please all the people, all the time.

I mention your show to hoop fans quite often actually, usually to people that come into my store and the topic turns to basketball. One of my first questions is... have you ever heard of the D3hoops website? That leads to a more detailed explanation of what it's all about with the scores, articles and your Hoopsville show. As Titan Q said the other day when the website crashed and was down for about 12 hours I think. "Consider how this site has transformed the way we follow D3 athletics over the past 15 years or so."     

I can't thank Pat, you and the rest of the crew enough for all you've done to promote D3 hoops. I've made friendships because of it both in person and online and that's just one of the benefits of the community you join. Living in a city that has a D3 college is only amplified by participating in the D3hoops online experience. Keep up the great work Dave, the people that appreciate what you guys do, overwhelm the few detractors that are out there shooting their yapper off.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2013, 09:45:13 PM
Regional Rankings just released by the NCAA. They will probably be up on the D3 website shortly. I had both the East and Northeast regions team for team. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2013, 11:52:23 PM
Here you go, magicman: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=1814 (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=1814)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2013, 05:16:31 AM
Another big night on tap for the YAC tonight. Don't know if the big forecasted  snowstorm will mess things up or not. I would imagine that Geneseo and Brockport traveled up to the North Country on Thursday so those games against Potsdam and Plattsburgh should take place as expected. Likewise Buffalo State is probably already in New Paltz as I post this. The other two games that didn't involve an overnight trip may be the ones that are impacted by the storm if it's as bad as predicted. It's 4:00 AM as I start to type this post and it just started snowing here in Plattsburgh. Weatherman says we'll get 6 to 8 inches but west and south of us will get up to 14 inches. Hope he's wrong and the totals aren't that bad.


Buffalo State at New Paltz State    4:00 PM

Not used to seeing a Friday afternoon game scheduled. The Bengals get a chance to tighten their grip on a playoff spot with a win today over the Hawks. They lead New Paltz by a game and a half so a win here would essentially make it a 3 game lead as they would own a season sweep to claim any tiebreaker. Hawks will be tough at home with wins over Brockport, Cortland and Plattsburgh in Hawk Center already. Odds makers have the Hawks favored by a slim 2 point margin. Hawks, with their backs against the wall, need a win here or their playoff hopes are over. Bengals haven't won a road game in 2013. I'm rooting for the Bengals but I think the Hawks win this track meet 88-85.


Oswego State at Cortland State  8:00 PM

The top rated game of the day. Cortland now ranked 24th in D3hoops Top 25 will be looking to stretch their winning streak to 11 games in a row, all in the conference. Fresh off a #2 placement behind Rochester, in the just released Regional Rankings the Red Dragons are in great shape to claim an at large bid to the NCAA tournament should they fail to win the SUNYAC tournament and the automatic bid. That scenario is the YAC's best chance to get two teams into the tournament this year and I'll be rooting, of course, for my Plattsburgh Cardinals to be the winner of the YAC's tournament. Cortland's having a great year so far and I'd like to see them in the NCAA's so unless they stumble badly here in the next few weeks I think they're in. Oswego, with 5 conference losses already, is probably not in contention to get the #1 seed but a first round bye or a 1st round home playoff game is still available and should provide them with all the necessary incentive to end the season with a bang. Tonight's game and a big matchup with Plattsburgh next weekend will go a long way in determining their fate. Point spread has the Red Dragons favored by 12 points but I think that's way to much. Cortland did win in Oswego just 2 weeks ago 75-69  and I see a game closer to that margin than the 12 points of the oddsmakers. I think it will be Cortland 78 Oswego 72.


Fredonia State at Oneonta State  8:00 PM

This game pitting the bottom two teams in the YAC will probably determine some bragging rights. The Blue Devils won the first meeting in Fredonia and have 2 wins in the league to only 1 for these Red Dragons. However, an Oneonta win tonight in Dewar Arena, will give the bragging rights to Oneonta, as they would own the tiebreaker by virtue of their win over Oswego. Both teams looking to get their 2nd win in 2013. Oddsmakers say it will be the Red Dragons as they are favored by 4 points. I think that Oneonta has been on the verge of a win for some time now and tonight they get it done. Oneonta 69 Fredonia 66.


Geneseo State at Potsdam State  8:00 PM

The Bears are playing for pride. The Blue Knights are playing for a 1st round bye. The point spread favors Geneseo by 5 points but after the way they handled Potsdam in their earlier meeting I think they will win this one by double digits. Still not sure who Potsdam will have on the court tonight as they have had 3 players, all starters, missing time with injuries. If everybody was back it might be a closer game, but still a Geneseo victory. I see the Blue Knights winning this one 77-67.


Brockport State at Plattsburgh St  8:00 PM

Another one of our featured games today. These two teams have played so many close games in the past seven years that it's hard to predict a winner when they get together. Home court hasn't mattered much either and the Cardinals won their first meeting in Brockport last month in typical fashion 82-81. Plattsburgh's hopes for the #1 seed took a tumble last Satrday when they lost a heartbreaker to New Paltz but the Cardinals still have an outside chance for that prize. They will meet Cortland next weekend and a victory would draw them closer to the Red Dragons but they would still need help from someone else. In all probability they're playing for a 1st round bye and the #2 seed. They can't afford a setback here. The Golden Eagles still have hopes for a first round home game but are essentially 2 games behind the Lakers since they were swept by Oswego and would lose any tiebreaker situation with them. They need a win to keep those hopes alive. Oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 4 point favorite and I don't know if they'll cover that spread.  I'll take my Cardinals to win another close one 80-77.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 08, 2013, 08:04:43 AM
The Geneseo - Potsdam games (men's and women's) will be televised by Time Warner.  Tonight is Bear Pride Night as well.

A little snow won't stop much in the 'dam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 08, 2013, 01:25:46 PM
Here's to hoping that my BENGALS can prove the prognosticators wrong. And also hoping that the 4pm start allows them the chance to get out of Poughkeepsie safely and back to their hotel in Albany.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
New Paltz defeats Buffalo State 86-81.

I had New Paltz winning this one 88-85 so I wasn't too far off. The Hawks missed 2 of 4 free throws in the final 26 seconds or they would have had the 88 points I predicted for them.


Hawks made the opening basket of the game but immediately fell behind 10-2 and were playing catch up the rest of the 1st half and never drew even until the 13:47 mark when they tied the Bengals at 55 on a Matt Devine free throw. Back and forth play for the next few minutes and the Hawks finally got a lead at 63-62 on an old fashioned three point play by Taylor Sowah. Four more lead changes would follow until the Hawks opened up some daylight at 71-66. It was a lead they wouldn't relinquish. They widened it to 77-68 on a Devine dunk with 5:14 to play but 4 straight points by Jake Simmons brought the Bengals back to within 4 at 77-73 with 2:43 left on the clock. After the teams traded baskets the Hawks' Andrew Joseph scored 4 unanswered points to build the lead back to 8 at 83-75 and that shut the door on any Bengal hopes for a comeback. Buff State got in to within 4 but New Paltz hit just enough free throws down the stretch to hang on for the win.

New Paltz was led by Shareef Taylor's double-double of 20 points and 11 rebounds. Matt Devine also had 20 points with 7 rebounds. Andrew Joseph had 16 points with 6 rebounds and Kevin Roach added 11 points. Deveino McRae only had 9 points but ripped down a game high 16 rebounds
The Hawks killed the Bengals off the glass as they had 62 rebounds to only 39 for Buffalo State. Bengals only had 13 turnovers to 21 for the Hawks

Jake Simmons led the Bengals with 31 points 4 rebounds and 4 steals. Rod Epps had 15 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists. Ryan Carney had 10 points, 4 boards and 3 blocks. Seth Runge added 9 points and 7 rebounds.

New Paltz improves to 7-8 in the conference (9-13 overall) but still trail Buffalo State who falls to 7-7 in the YAC (12-8 overall).
The Hawks will host Fredonia tomorrow night at 6:00 PM and the Bengals will face off against Oneonta at 4:00 PM tomorrow afternoon.

Things just got a whole lot tighter for that final playoff position. If  the Hawks do manage to catch the Bengals, the win they had over Cortland will give them the tiebreaker and the final playoff spot. Hawks, with 3 games left look like an 9-9 finish. Bengals with 4 games left, and I think will be no worse than 9-9. They need a win against Geneseo or Brockport on the final weekend to get to 10-8 and secure that last seed.

Off to see my Cardinals take on Brockport State, now that I've got all my snowplowing done. Got about a foot of snow here so far and it's still coming down. Probably won't be a very big crowd at Memorial Hall tonight. Too bad, it should be a great game.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on February 08, 2013, 06:18:45 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 08, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
New Paltz defeats Buffalo State 86-81.

Hail to the alma mater! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2013, 08:42:14 PM
Cortland 30, Oswego 18 at the half. Corts by as many as 13 at 2:17. Shooting 40 percent from the floor, 4x12 3s. H. Hefele 7 pts, four others with 5 each. Oswego 32 percent shooting, 1x6 3s. S. Michele 7 pts. H. Ward  4 pts, 5 rebs shadowed by 6-9 D. Sternkopf for 18'. The latter with 7 rebs in good showing as K. McMahon scoreless, 2pf, 2 reb. in 9'

Potsdam matches its largest lead of the half and leads Geneseo 35-29 at the break on J. Lambert '3' at 0:02

Brockport 40, Plattsburgh 35 at the half. Port 14x31fg, 6x13 3s.  The Burgh 10x32fg, 2x10 3s led by S. McIntosh 9 pts, J. Moody 8 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2013, 08:57:26 PM

Some good games tonight, not one of them in Cortland where RDragons up 59-30 with 6' left

Brockport and Plattsburgh squared at 48-48

Potsdam snaps 35 all tie for 40-35 edge on Geneseo. M. Lake nails a trey, then a deuce with 16:11 to play

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 08, 2013, 09:24:01 PM
Bears lead is 8 50-42 with 10:57 left.  Definite Rocky Moment as wounded warriors, Lake, Peterson, & Duquette have posted 24 ducats to this point.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2013, 09:28:21 PM
Cortland firing on all cylinders in 78-46 beating of Oswego. One of the strongest showings of the season for 19-3 hosts who hit 52 percent of their field attempts (29x56, 8x22 3s). Just 10 turnovers to 14 for Lakers, who go 20x58 from the field.

J. Winter on senior night has 16 pts; B. Manning 15 pts(6x12fg), 5 rebs; L. Herron 11 pts(4x6fg), 5 assts; H. Hefele 11 pts, 6 rebs; D. Sternkopf 8 rebs. Oswego 6-9 frosh M. Candelario comes off the bench for 10 pts(4x4fg) to top the Lakers. S. Michele 7 pts; H. Ward 7 pts(3x10fg), 5 rebs; E. McLaurin 6 pts

CSt entertains New Paltz on Tuesday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 08, 2013, 09:42:26 PM
Oneonta 79, Fredonia 67 is a final. OSt by 45-31 at intermission. Dragons' Z. Mager with 26 pts(9x16fg), 9 rebs

Potsdam 75, Geneseo 61, final

Plattsburgh 78, Brockport 68, final.  Cards down 62-61 till S. Field layup and accompanying FT at 4:11. That begins 10-1 clinching run. E. Hodgson makes a triple at 3:38, S. McIntosh dunks for two at 2:59 and J. Perez lands a pair of FTs at 2:30 for 71-63 lead. Curtains for Brocks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 08, 2013, 09:52:37 PM
Bears lead by 13 with less than 1:00 left, Geneseo fouling on every possession
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 08, 2013, 09:59:11 PM
Bears lead by 14 with :36 left.  Expecting a huge thank you from magic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 08, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
Huge games from Rob Duquette and Mark Lake Jr, both with 17, off the wounded list.

Bears played intense defense forcing 19 turnovers and only giving 9 of their own.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2013, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 08, 2013, 09:59:11 PM
Bears lead by 14 with :36 left.  Expecting a huge thank you from magic.

bear,
Just pulled into my store to check out how the games went tonight. I knew the Bears were up at halftime and I thought maybe all the MIA's were playing tonight. What a huge win for the guys and you're right the Cardinals and I owe our Bears a HUGE THANK YOU. I only wish we could repay the favor but I think it's too late for Potsdam at this stage of the season. Still,  it was a nice win for the team and if you don't mind me asking, would you repeat this result on Feb. 16th? ;D That may be the last chance my Cards have to overtake the Red Dragons.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2013, 12:02:57 AM
Just back from Memorial Hall where the Cardinals took care of business against the boys from Brockport. Sparse crowd on hand but better than I expected with all the snow we got.

The teams traded leads early on but Brockport went ahead 11-10 on a 3 pointer by John Ivy that was followed by a layup from Matt Lee, and 2 free throws by Brandon Caruthers. The Cardinals were playing catch up the rest of the entire first half. Caruthers got another layup at the 7:25 mark to give the Eagles their biggest lead of the period at 29-21. They continued to lead by 7 or 8 points until the Cards' Reggie Williams hit a pair of free throws with 7 seconds left to make it 40-35 and a Brockport 3 at the buzzer was off the mark.

Once again the teams went back and forth through the early going of the 2nd period. Plattsburgh would narrow the deficit but couldn't quite catch the Eagles. Finally with 13:41 left to play 2 Shamoy McIntosh free throws tied the game at 48 and after Brockport failed to score on their next possession the Cardinals finally got a lead on a layup by big man Reggie Williams with 12:43 remaining. 5 more ties and 6 lead changes would take place over the next 8 minutes until Plattsburgh, down 62-61 got a hoop and harm from Shavar Fields to take a lead they wouldn't surrender. After Port missed a triple, the Cards' Ezra Hodgson buried his attempt from downtown and after another long range miss by the Eagles the Cards' McIntosh drove to the hoop for a monster dunk that put Plattsburgh up 69-62 with 2:59 remaining. the Cardinals closed out the scoring by going 9x12 from the line to end the game. With 39 seconds left the Eagles Coach Dunne called off the dogs and the final stood at 78 to 68.

Shamoy McIntosh led all scorers as he tossed in 23 points with 6 rebounds and a pair of steals. he was a perfect 12x12 from the line. John Perez had 13 points and 6 rebounds, while Jordan Moody also had 13 points with 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks. Shavar Fields came off the bench to score 10 points with 5 rebounds in 16 minutes of court time. Reggie Williams also gave the Cards some great bench minutes, as he filled the stat sheet with 8 points, 6 rebounds, 5 blocks, an assist and a steal in 13 mintes. Point guard Chris Manning also made his presence felt with 9 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 steals, and 3 points. Ezra Hodgson had 2 big 3 pointers, 5 rebounds and 2 steals. Cards didn't shoot very well tonight from the field and downtown but did hit 35x48 from the line thanks to McIntosh's perfect night there. They were outrebounded 49-46 but only had 14 turnovers to 26 for Brockport. The zebras certainly didn't keep their whistles in their pockets as the teams were called for 51 personal fouls, 31 on Port and 20 on the Cards. In fairness to them it was a pretty physical game and Brockport always brings the pressure from end to end.

The Eagles were led by a double-double from their leading man, John Ivy who poured in 22 points and grabbed 11 rebounds. It was interesting to see a 6'0" guard playing center but that's where he was for a good portion of the 2nd half. Did a pretty darn good job with a number of layups and several nifty passes when the zone collasped on him. Jordan Major had 14 points and 5 rebounds. Brandon Caruthers had 9 points and 7 rebounds with most coming in the 1st half as he was limited by foul troubles. He only got 18 minutes of court time and fouled out with 4:34 left to play. Bobby Bell had 7 points 6 rebounds 3 steals and 2 assists. The Eagles didn't have a good night shooting the rock either as both teams must have had 6 or 7 shots each go halfway down the cylinder and rattle back out. 

Got a chance to meet and chat with Coach Dunne, who I've always respected as a coach. No matter what cards he's dealt he always puts a competitve team on the floor. It was nice to hear that he reads the SUNYAC board and keeps up with all the chatter from yours truly and the other regulars. Thanks for the kind words Coach. 8-)

Plattsburgh now moves into sole possession of 2nd place with a 10-4 conference log (14-7 overall). It may be a short lived stay in that spot however as the angry Blue Knights from Geneseo will pull into the Burgh looking to regain their position tomorrow afternoon when they take on the Cards at 4:00 PM.

Brockport 7-7 (13-9 overall) still hangs on to the 5th place position since Buffalo State fell to New Paltz this afternoon. They will be looking to regroup against the rejuvenated Potsdam State Bears who appear to be healthy now for the first time in 3 weeks. Game time in Jerry Welch Gym will  also be at 4:00 PM tomorrow.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2013, 12:52:06 AM
Great wins for the north country duo tonight. Congrats.  Wish thati could saythe same for my BENGALS but the Hawks just wouldnt lay down. Creditgoes to Shareef Taylor ( almost a triple double with his 6 blocks) and Co
This 1 hurt!!

Need a win at Oneonta worse than ever.

I imagine ill hear from Hawkbill soon
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2013, 10:20:01 AM
Went 4 for 5 with my picks yesterday, missing only with the Potsdam-Geneseo game which made me extremely happy that I was wrong on that one.

New Paltz 86 Buffalo State 81.     Was fairly close with my 88-85 predicted Hawk win.

Oneonta 79 Fredonia 67.      I had Oneonta winning 69-66. Almost nailed the Blue Devils total but didn't figure Oneonta would put up their highest point total in a conference game this year.

Cortland 78 Oswego 46.   For the 2nd time in two weeks I nailed Cortland's exact score against the Lakers as I had them scoring 75 in their last matchup. My prediction of a 78-72 final was predicated on the fact that Oswego was going to show up. They apparently forgot to. Not even God would have predicted a blow out of this propotion.

Potsdam 75 Geneseo 61.  My one miss for the night as I had Geneseo winning this one 77-67. The Bears have been without 3 starters and my prediction was based on that fact. My numbers weren't far off from the actual score, just needed to reverse the teams. In all honesty I probably still would have gone with the Blue Knights even if I knew Potsdam was 100% healthy.

Plattsburgh 78 Brockport 68   I had this as a 80-77 win for the Cardinals. Two missed free throws by John Perez on 2 different trips to the line with less than a minute left cost me the exact Cardinal point total. I'll be speaking to John about this matter later today. The score was 62-61 in favor of Brockport with 6:06 left to play. Brockport took 8 shots from the field in the final six minutes of the game. They were all 3 pointers and they were 1x8. They also had 4 turnovers in that time which were the big reasons they failed to reach my total of 77.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 09, 2013, 11:46:23 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 09, 2013, 10:20:01 AM
Went 4 for 5 with my picks yesterday, missing only with the Potsdam-Geneseo game which made me extremely happy that I was wrong on that one.

Potsdam 75 Geneseo 61.  My one miss for the night as I had Geneseo winning this one 77-67. The Bears have been without 3 starters and my prediction was based on that fact. My numbers weren't far off from the actual score, just needed to reverse the teams. In all honesty I probably still would have gone with the Blue Knights even if I knew Potsdam was 100% healthy.


The stunning stat in the Potsdam - Geneseo game was the Bear's 31-5 advantage on points off turnovers.  Overcame a huge game from Gordon Lyons, and Geneseo's advantage in the paint and on the boards.

Sounds like a bit of pressure might be in order at Memorial Hall this afternoon
:)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2013, 12:49:08 PM
Four games slated for today and the featured game is the matchup between 2nd place Plattsburgh and 3rd place Geneseo at the Burgh.

Buffalo State at Oneonta State  4:00 PM

The Bengals can't afford a slip up here if they have any hopes of making the playoffs. With 2 tough games looming next weekend they need to win both games left against the teams at the bottom of the standings. The loss to New Paltz yesterday now leaves them in a perilous position for a playoff berth since the Hawks own the tiebreaker at the present time. Oneonta is looking to win back to back games for the 1st time all year. I don't think it's gonna happen. Oddsmakers have the Bengals listed as a 6 point favorite and if the Red Dragons continue their solid play at home they can keep this one close. I think the Bengals will prevail 85-76.


Brockport State at Potsdam State  4:00 PM

Can the Bears pull off a 2nd straight upset? They are fighting for their playoff lives as they haven't yet been mathematically eliminated. Going into the weekend they needed to win their remaining 5 games and still had no guarantees that would do the job. Since those 5 games were against the top 5 teams in the conference it would seem to be too tall of an order even though those games are all in Potsdam. They're 1 for 1 after taking down Geneseo but today they face a Brockport team with a different style of play than the Blue Knights. Brockport needs to go 1-1 on this trip or they could fall below Buff State and back into a tie with New Paltz for the 6th and final playoff spot. They also will lose a tiebreaker against the Hawks. This is a tough game to predict as Potsdam, when healthy, is one of the best 9-12 teams in the East. The point spread has the Golden Eagles favored by a slim 2 point margin. I was fairly sure my crystal ball would predict a Brockport win here but the more I mull this one over the more I want to pick my alma mater. The Bears really have nothing to lose as every one has written them off. The Eagles have to win this game and maybe the pressure gets to them. It seemed that's what happened yesterday in Plattsburgh. Very uncharacteristic finish for Brockport, down the stretch of that game. Maybe Coach Dunne gets them back on track today but I'm going to wear my hearton my sleeve and take the Bears in another mild upset. Potsdam 80 Brockport 77. (That score didn't quite work for me yesterday, maybe it'll do better today.)


Geneseo State at Plattsburgh State  4:00 PM

Geneseo's hopes of winning the regular season SUNYAC crown is on life support with their loss yesterday in Potsdam. With 5 losses in conference play they would need to win out and hope that Cortland will lose their 3 remaining games. Frankly, I don't see that happening.  Plattsburgh chances are slightly better but still a long shot at best. So these 2 teams are essentially playing for a possible 1st round bye to the winner (and some people may feel that a 1st round might not be a good thing to have) with a possible home game in the 1st round going to the loser. As a fan I kinda like the first round home game, but as a coach I would think you'd like to get the bye and not have to play 3 games to try and win the YAC tournament. It's always tough to win three games in a row in the tournament and we've seen in the past that the crown can go to anyone in the field regardless of their seeding. Plattsburgh is in sole possession of 2nd place for the 1st time all year I believe, but if they wish to remain there it's going to take a big effort today against the Blue Knights. Geneseo like their travel partners, Brockport, does not want to make that long bus ride home stewing over an 0-2 weekend on the road. Add to the fact that the Cardinals are currently on a 3 game losing streak against the Blue Knights and this game has the potential for a variety of different outcomes. In the past 7 years the Cardinals hold a slim 7-6 advantage over Geneseo but the recent history is what's important here.  Plattsburgh lost a close 66-64 decision in Geneseo a month ago and that leads the oddsmakers to favor the Cards in this one by a 6 point margin. That game in Geneseo really wasn't as close as the final margin would indicate as the Blue knights had a 2 or 3 possession lead for nearly all of the 2nd period. They were still up by 8 points with under 2 minutes to play and up by 7 with only 34 seconds left. A layup by Plattsburgh's Shamoy McIntosh with 25 ticks left and a 3 pointer by him, after the Knights missed the front end of a 1&1 with 5 seconds narrowed the final margin to give the appearance of an extremely tight ballgame. The Cardinals are 5-0 in conference games this year on their home court. The Blue Knights are 3-4 in road conference games. It's time for Plattsburgh to end the losing streak against the Knights and I think they do it with a 76-71 win.


Fredonia State at New Paltz State   6:00 PM

Fredonia needs another conference win to avoid the last place designation, since their loss to Oneonta last night, along with the tiebreaker, puts them behind the Red Dragons. New Paltz has renewed energy as they can see a light at the end of the tunnel and a playoff bid which didn't seem too favorable 9 days ago has become attainable with their 3 wins in 4 tries since then. They've benefitted from a closing schedule that had them at home for 5 of their last 7 games. They need to take care of business this afternoon and it's possible they could be in 5th place by the end of the day. The point spread is the biggest margin of the day as the Hawks are favored to win by 12 points. The teams had a closely contested game in the first go around as New Paltz prevailed 92-87 in Fredonia. I don't think they'll score that many today but it won't be far off. New Paltz wins this one 87-77. 
           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2013, 01:02:33 PM
I for 1 hope that each of your predictions are spot on today!  Seedings for the "Cortland invitational"could begin to shape up by tuesday night!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on February 09, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2013, 12:52:06 AM
Great wins for the north country duo tonight. Congrats.  Wish thati could saythe same for my BENGALS but the Hawks just wouldnt lay down. Creditgoes to Shareef Taylor ( almost a triple double with his 6 blocks) and Co
This 1 hurt!!

Need a win at Oneonta worse than ever.

I imagine ill hear from Hawkbill soon

Haha bengals - Simmons and epps are crazy good - S. Taylor went on a tear yesterday afternoon and it was insane. Still not comfortable though - team has been known to play great on a Friday and then blow it on Saturday (see brockport/geneseo weekend) but I hope they do it.

PS I think Simmons got his 2000th point yesterday? What an accomplishment.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2013, 05:03:42 PM


Plattsburgh rips Geneseo 84-62. Am sure Magic will elaborate

Oneonta 72-67 over Buffalo St.
   
Brockport 73-60 over Potsdam

Fredonia taps at New Paltz at 6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 09, 2013, 05:32:22 PM
Bears clawing back behind Curtis Pierce.  59-51 with 8:42 left.  Pierce has 22 and counting.

Buff state and Geneseo scores are shockers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 09, 2013, 05:57:20 PM
Bears lose 73-60.  clawed back to within 7, but then went cold and 'port had a 6-0 run to end the game.

Curtis Pierce had 24 pts & 9 rebounds, Brandon Williams had 13 pts & 11 rebounds off the bench.

'port was led by John Ivy with 20 pts , Matt Lee with 18 pts & 9 rebounds, Brandon Carruthers with 17.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2013, 08:00:35 PM

New Paltz blows away Fredonia 98-74. Hawks coast from 55-28 halftime bulge. M. Devine 32 pts .....12x15fg, 4x5 3s, 4x4ft, 6 rebs in 24 minutes
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2013, 11:41:08 PM
Toughest weekend of the season for my BENGALS :-[ . Let Oneonta get out big in the first half with 14 turnovers. Tried to right the ship in the 2nd half...but fell a little bit short!

Gotta hope for a lotta things to happen from here on in!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 10, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Very Surprised about Buffalo State 2 losses to under 500 teams. Buff State has to win there final two games to get the 6th seed in The SUNYAC tourny. I have seen New Paltz play 3 times this year and havent looked good at all. Taylor and Devine are both good, no supporting cast though. since New Paltz and Buff State split season series what is the tiebreaker? The only clear cut team in this league is Cortland. I change my mind about Plattsburgh. MAGICMAN i think they are the 2nd or 3rd best team in the SUNYAC. since the beat Oswego and blew out Geneseo. I have to put them in 2nd behind Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 10, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 10, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Very Surprised about Buffalo State 2 losses to under 500 teams. Buff State has to win there final two games to get the 6th seed in The SUNYAC tourny. I have seen New Paltz play 3 times this year and havent looked good at all. Taylor and Devine are both good, no supporting cast though. since New Paltz and Buff State split season series what is the tiebreaker? The only clear cut team in this league is Cortland. I change my mind about Plattsburgh. MAGICMAN i think they are the 2nd or 3rd best team in the SUNYAC. since the beat Oswego and blew out Geneseo. I have to put them in 2nd behind Cortland.

Not positive, but should teams remain deadlocked after head-to-head tie-breaker, don't they then go to results against the top teams? In this instance at the moment Cortland heads the pack. New Paltz holds a win over the Corts while Buff St. was swept by them. NP advances. If outcomes were the same vs. Cortland, results vs. second place team would be considered, etc. Think things were settled this way at one time. Still? Know F. Elia knows for sure.  You there Fran?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2013, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 10, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 10, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Very Surprised about Buffalo State 2 losses to under 500 teams. Buff State has to win there final two games to get the 6th seed in The SUNYAC tourny. I have seen New Paltz play 3 times this year and havent looked good at all. Taylor and Devine are both good, no supporting cast though. since New Paltz and Buff State split season series what is the tiebreaker? The only clear cut team in this league is Cortland. I change my mind about Plattsburgh. MAGICMAN i think they are the 2nd or 3rd best team in the SUNYAC. since the beat Oswego and blew out Geneseo. I have to put them in 2nd behind Cortland.

Not positive, but should teams remain deadlocked after head-to-head tie-breaker, don't they then go to results against the top teams? In this instance at the moment Cortland heads the pack. New Paltz holds a win over the Corts while Buff St. was swept by them. NP advances. If outcomes were the same vs. Cortland, results vs. second place team would be considered, etc. Think things were settled this way at one time. Still? Know F. Elia knows for sure.  You there Fran?

That's still he way that the tiebreakers work. Start with the results against the top team and work down the list until you have a winner.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
dex, think you're right on.  If two teams are tied, and they split the season series, then they go to record vs. 1,2,...until someone has an advantage.

Three Way tie break is even messier, as it goes to best two records amongst the three, then 1,2,...

Can have some awkward results.

Bengals have to win out, and hope that Hawks don't repeat their win against Cortland.  Of course Bengals have to face two teams that have already beaten them, who are still working on seeding positions.

Bengals loss to the 'port would be very damaging.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: buck1053 on February 10, 2013, 08:44:36 PM
So, I was looking at the regional rankings and the Massey ratings and I was curious about how that all shook out, as the Massey ratings have some teams higher than others, while the regional rankings don't reflect that same lineup. I'm assuming it's because the ratings are through this weekend's games and the rankings came out before that.

EAST                  
1   Rochester (N.Y.)   18-1   19-1         
2   SUNY Cortland   17-2   17-3         
3   Stevens Institute of Technology   15-3   17-3         
4   New York University   13-7   13-7         
5   Hobart   12-6   13-6         
6   SUNY Geneseo   14-6   14-7

Now, U of R is 20-2, having gone 1-1 since the rankings came out. Of course, the loss is out of region, against Wash U today, and the win is out of region as well, correct?
Cortland is 19-3, two wins in region
Stevens is 20-3, with their three wins all in region
NYU is 13-9, both of their losses were out of region, right?
Hobart is 16-6, their three wins are in region
Geneseo is 14-9, and both of their losses were in region.

Now, according to the latest Massey ratings, through Feb. 9, the top 10 teams in East, I believe (don't shoot me if I'm wrong, I don't usually try to figure such things out, but I was curious so I gave it a shot. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though) are:

1) U of R (Massey rating 6, sure to drop with today's loss by 19)
2) Cortland (21)
3) Stevens (48)
4) Hobart (60)
5) Union (74)
6) NYU (75)
7) Plattsburgh (78)
8) Oswego (87)
9) Ithaca (103)
10) Brockport (107)

Geneseo, which was sixth in the regional rankings, was 12th in the East in the Massey ratings at 128, behind Buffalo State which was rated 122nd.

I'm assuming the next regional rankings will have the same top 5, though, since U of R and NYU's games were out of region, right? And my other question is who the 6th team will be in the next rankings? I mean, according to Massey, it would be Union, but since their schedule strength is low, wouldn't Plattsburgh or Oswego seem more likely to get into the top 6?

Again, just curious how this is all shaking out. I appreciate the enlightenment from the much more informed board members.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
Quote from: buck1053 on February 10, 2013, 08:44:36 PM
So, I was looking at the regional rankings and the Massey ratings and I was curious about how that all shook out, as the Massey ratings have some teams higher than others, while the regional rankings don't reflect that same lineup. I'm assuming it's because the ratings are through this weekend's games and the rankings came out before that.

EAST                  
1   Rochester (N.Y.)   18-1   19-1         
2   SUNY Cortland   17-2   17-3         
3   Stevens Institute of Technology   15-3   17-3         
4   New York University   13-7   13-7         
5   Hobart   12-6   13-6         
6   SUNY Geneseo   14-6   14-7

Now, U of R is 20-2, having gone 1-1 since the rankings came out. Of course, the loss is out of region, against Wash U today, and the win is out of region as well, correct?  All of the games in the UAA are considered in region games no matter where they are played. You don't play 14 games in the conference and have a large part of them not count as in region. ;D
Cortland is 19-3, two wins in region
Stevens is 20-3, with their three wins all in region
NYU is 13-9, both of their losses were out of region, right?  These were also in region losses since they were conference games
Hobart is 16-6, their three wins are in region
Geneseo is 14-9, and both of their losses were in region.

Now, according to the latest Massey ratings, through Feb. 9, the top 10 teams in East, I believe (don't shoot me if I'm wrong, I don't usually try to figure such things out, but I was curious so I gave it a shot. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though) are:

1) U of R (Massey rating 6, sure to drop with today's loss by 19)
2) Cortland (21)
3) Stevens (48)
4) Hobart (60)
5) Union (74)
6) NYU (75)
7) Plattsburgh (78)
8) Oswego (87)
9) Ithaca (103)
10) Brockport (107)

Geneseo, which was sixth in the regional rankings, was 12th in the East in the Massey ratings at 128, behind Buffalo State which was rated 122nd.

I'm assuming the next regional rankings will have the same top 5, though, since U of R and NYU's games were out of region, right? And my other question is who the 6th team will be in the next rankings? I mean, according to Massey, it would be Union, but since their schedule strength is low, wouldn't Plattsburgh or Oswego seem more likely to get into the top 6?

Again, just curious how this is all shaking out. I appreciate the enlightenment from the much more informed board members.


buck,
Note the reponse I've bolded in your post.

Regarding the Massey rankings... last week when the Massey rankings came out on Monday which included games through Sunday Feb. 3rd (the same time frame that the regional committees use) the top 6 east  teams in his rankings ended up being the same 6 as the regional committee had on Wednesday. I also believe Massey's rankings will change tomorrow so they wil be a bit different than the ones you posted.   

Here is a message I sent to Mr. dcahill earlier tonight as he asked me who I thought would be ranked this week:

Probably the only team that drops out is Geneseo. Plattsburgh should enter the rankings and I think they'll be in 5th place. I think this is what they'll look like.

1.  Rochester     They will still probably be in the top spot even though they were 1-1 for the week.  They have a stronger SOS than Cortland but the Red Dragons could jump over them though and it wouldn't surprise me.

2.   Cortland    A 2-0 week keeps them near or at the top.

3.   Stevens    They were 3-0 including a beatdown of Ithaca so they won't move at all.

4.   Hobart      Also went 3-0 beating the 2 cellar dwellers in the LL but also topping Union in double OT.  They won't move up but Plattsburgh I think is a better team.

5.   Plattsburgh State     A 2-0 week including the win over, then 2nd place in the SUNYAC, Geneseo by 22 points. The 10 point win over Brockport was a solid one as well. The Geneseo win also counts as a win over a regionally ranked opponent which always helps. Plattsburgh now has a 2 game lead in the loss column over Geneseo and a full 2 game lead over Oswego. Plattsburgh is the only team with an outside chance of catching Cortland.

6.   NYU      This spot could go to another team as the Violets had a bad week. Going 0-2 and with a loss to the last place team in the UAA, that won't help their cause. Of the teams that were just outside the rankings last week only Plattsburgh went undefeated. Oswego and Ithaca were ahead of Union I believe,  but they all lost a game last week. Hard to say what the committee will do with that final spot. If they don't give it to NYU it'll probably go to Union since their loss was to Hobart on the road in double OT. I hope not because they don't deserve to be ranked.

So that's my guess when they come out on Wednesday. I was perfect last week with my guesses but the 6th place spot this week is really up for grabs. Actually no one deserves it as none of the contenders have been playing that well. I don't think it really matters because whoever is in 6th place doesn't have a chance of getting a Pool C at large bid. When they are at the table with the teams from the other regions, they won't measure up, if they even get to the table. ;D



 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2013, 05:14:10 AM
Didn't get a chance to write up the Plattsburgh-Geneseo game as I was fighting a nasty tooth infection Saturday prior to and during the game. Finally heard from my Dentist around 5 PM in response to a message I left about 2 PM. Got some emergency medication from him right after the game, took the meds, and crashed hoping the pain would go away. Been kinda of in a recovery mode today. Still painful but a lot less than yesterday. Appointment 1st thing in the morning. Bring lots of money.

Plattsburgh 84 Geneseo 62

Certainly didn't foresee this score as the outcome of the game. Cards got on the board first and never let the Blue Knights gain the lead the entire game. They did manage to tie Plattsburgh at 2, 6, and 10, but from that point forward they trailed the rest of the way. A layup by the Cards' John Perez and back to back 3's by Ezra Hodgson gave Plattsburgh a 22-16 lead. Geneseo woud get a bucket and 1 from Connor Fedge followed by a layup from Ryan Riefenhauser to pull within a point at 22-21 but never again would they get it within a single possession. Reggie Williams came off the Cards bench, skyed high for a rebound and slammed it down while getting fouled on the play. He made the free throw and another Cardinal reserve Ed Correa scored his 2nd field goal in a 3 minute span with a 3 pointer. After a Geneseo miss Kalik Parker another of Plattsburgh's 2nd line tipped in a missed field goal and when Shavar Fields made 1x2 from the line the Cards had built a double digit lead of 31-21 in just under 3 minutes of play. With 6:31 left in the half Geneseo scored 5 unanswered points to get it back to a 2 possession game. At that point Parker buried a three, Perez scored on a layup, Chris Manning got four straight points  and Hodgson drilled another one from downtown. The 12-2 run left Geneseo down 43-28. A nicely executed out of bounds play by the Blue Knights with six tenths of a second left by Riefenhauser made it 43-30 at the break.

Geneseo came out of the break and brought in Andy Drescher at the 18:47 mark. Still down 14 points, 46-32 at the time, Drescher led a Blue Knights charge, that brought them back to a 2 possession game at 51-45. He hit 3 trifectas in quick order to give Geneseo some hope, but the Cardinals' Coach Curle countered that move by inserting Kalik Parker, and Ed Correa back into the game. The teams traded baskets to make it 53-47 but Plattsburgh would let loose with a barrage of 3 pointers by the two subs to fuel a 19-0 run and put the game away. First Parker hit a 3, and after a Geneseo miss he hit another 3. John Perez then stole the ball and Correa nailed a trey. Chris Manning then had a steal (he had 5 in the game), was fouled and made 1x2. Plattsburgh's Reggie Williams rebounded the missed free throw and laid it in. Geneseo missed a 3 point attempt of their own and Parker came down and hit his 4th 3 of the night. Manning then stole the ball on consectutive Geneseo possessions scoring a layup on one and feeding Correa for a layup on the second steal. It took the Cardinals 3:43 to score those 19 points and turn this game into a one sided contest. The coach started bringing in the subs with 4:30 left in the game and the Blue Knights never got any closer than 16 points.

Plattsburgh didn't have a single player from their starting five score in double digits. The starters scored 40 points and the bench scored 44. Kalik Parker was the team's leader with 14 points (5x12 fg, 4x10 3's, 0x1 ft), 7 rebounds, and 3 blocks in 21 min. Ed Correa also had double figures off the bench with 10 points (4x10 fg, 2x7 3's) in 14 min.  Reggie Williams had 18 minutes off the bench and scored 7 points with a team leading 9 rebounds plus 2 blocks. His rebounds and points came at crucial times in the game and he's been performing at his best level all year in the past 3 games. Shavar Fields had 7 points and 5 rebounds in 11 minutes of floor time.

The starters were led by Chris Manning as the point guard, as ususal, did a little bit of everything. He had 7 points, 10 assists, 5 steals and 4 rebounds in 27 min. Ezra Hodgson had 9 points hitting 3x4 from downtown with 16 min. of play. Shamoy McIntosh also had 9 points going 3x4 from the field, with 3 steals and 2 assists in 13 minutes. Jordan Moody scored 9 points (4x8 fg) with 4 steals and 2 assists in 19 min.  John Perez had 6 points (3x6 fg) , 4 rebounds, 3 steals, and 2 assists in 26 min.  10 players had double digit minutes. The Cardinals shot 31x65 from the field (47.7%), 10x27 from beyond the arc (37%) and 12x18 from the line (66.7%). The Cards won the battle of the boards by a healthy margin 43-26 and had 16 turnovers to 20 for the Blue Knights. Plattsburgh scored 36 points off those 20 turnovers and had 28 2nd chance points to only 7 for the Knights.

Gordon Lyons led 3 Blue Knight players in double figures with 14 points (6x9 fg, 2x4 ft) and a team high 6 rebounds. Ryan Riefenhauser had 13 points (6x7 fg, 1x2 ft), with 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. James McKenna had 11 points (4x9 fg, 1x3 3's, 2x2 ft), 4 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Connor Fedge had 8 points, 7 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals. Andy Drescher with 3 triples scored 9 points in 9 min. off the bench. Geneseo only got 12 points from their bench. Geneseo was a bit shorthanded as one of their starters Thomas Decker has missed the last 3 games. Geneseo shot 25x51 from the field (49%) but only 4x14 from longe range (28.6%). They were 8x13 from the line (61.5%).

Plattsburgh improves to 11-4 in the YAC (15-7 overall) and has 3 games left all at home. The only way the Cardinals can overtake Cortland is if they win those 3 home games against Potsdam, Cortland and Oswego. They would then need New Paltz to beat Cortland and finish ahead of Buffalo State. Then we would tie the Red Dragons with 4 losses each and we would win the tiebreaker. Cortland and Plattsburgh would have identical records against Geneseo, Oswego and Brockport so New Paltz or Buff State will be the tiebreaking team should that above scenario happen. We lose if it's Buff State and we win if it's New Paltz providing the Hawks win in Cortland on Feb 12th. I'm not holding my breath waiting for that to happen. We will take on our North Country neighbor, Potsdam,  on Tuesday at 8:00 PM. The Bears are back at full strength so I expect it will be a tough game.

Geneseo is now 10-6 in the conference ( 14-9 overall) and has 2 games left starting with a trip to Fredonia on Friday the 15th and then they host Buffalo State on Sat the 16th. They remain in 3rd place a half game ahead of the Lakers.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 11, 2013, 10:22:43 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 10, 2013, 03:53:01 PM
Bengals loss to the 'port would be very damaging.

  A BENGALS loss to ANYONE would be VERY damaging! IF I've ever cheered for Cortland (who's playing N.Paltz at home) I'm cheering for them tommorrow. Bottom line is we had an opportunity to all but lock down a playoff spot with 2 victories this past weekend and we crapped the bed. No excuses...just stank the place up!

  Oh BTW Hawkbill... Jake actually surpassed the 2,000 point mark Saturday at Oneonta. Very classy organization at Oneonta. They were aware of the fact that he was 4 points away and discussed with the BENGAL coaches how best, and when, to honor him once he passed the 2K mark. They did it at the beginning of the 2nd half. Called him to center court with Coach Ansari, took pictures, and gave him  the game ball after the Game!!!!

  +1 for the Oneonta S.I.D....Class act on an otherwise miserable f..kin day!! >:(

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2013, 02:33:49 AM
Four games scheduled for tonight, all at 8 PM.

Still not feeling well may have to skip the game tonight.  Tooth problem much better but developed bronchitis. Hacking up a storm with a fever. Doctor's in the AM.

Only tme for quick picks



Feb. 12

New Paltz State at Cortland State       8:00 PM
Revenge for the Red Dragons. 89-75.


Oneonta State at Oswego State    8:00 PM
Oswego will not  suffer another letdown here. They win big 76-59


Buffalo State at Fredonia State     8:00 PM
Can the Bengals finally win a road game in 2013? They better or they are history. Only won by 2 in Buffalo, yet favored today by 5. Bengals win 83-75.


Potsdam State at  Plattsburgh State     8:00 PM
Plattsburgh broke open a close game in the 2nd half of their meeting in Potsdam and won going away. Bears with a full complement of players this time around.  Point spread favors the Cards by 14. Should be closer but still see the Cards on top, 85-76.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2013, 07:06:18 PM
Zach Mager from Oneonta makes the D3hoops Team of the Week. here's the write up:

Zach Mager
"Mager put up 23.7 points and 8.7 rebounds per game in a 2-1 week for the Red Dragons. He shot 58 percent from the floor and 8-for-15 from beyond the arc."

Zach was also the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 2-10 Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

"Zach Mager led Oneonta to a 2-1 record for the week with three 20 plus point performances. Mager scored 26 points and grabbed nine boards, as Oneonta avenged an early season loss to Fredonia. Against Buffalo State, Mager recorded a double-double in leading the Red Dragons to a 72-67 win over the Bengals."




Congratulations to Zach for this double honor.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2013, 08:31:02 PM
Cortland 48, New Paltz 21 at the half. RDragons 20x37fg, 7x17 3s. J. Smith 13 pts; K. mcMahon 12 pts, 3pf; B. Manning 12 pts; J. Winter 4 assts. NP 7x26fg, 13 turnovers. M. Devine 9 pts

Plattsburgh 41, Potsdam 28 at half. J. Perez 14 pts in 13' for Cards  who connect on 17x36 from the field. R. Duquette 8 pts for the Dam which has 12 turnovers

Oswego 40, Oneonta 38 at the half as Michele sinks two FTs in final seconds for the Lakers. H. Ward 16 pts, 8 rebs for Lakers, C. Gilkes 10 pts. Oneonta's J. Zuvic 12 pts

Buffalo St. 31, Fredonia 28 with 3' left till half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2013, 08:57:49 PM

Cortland by 30 over New Paltz with 15 minutes to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on February 12, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
Well - tough to prove your opponents wrong when you're shooting 26.9% and 27.1% from the 3. Man - would have loved for the 'OTHER' NP team to show up tonight - but looks like no matter how much I wanted to prove dcahill wrong - Hawks are playing like crap again tonight (15 TOs to 5!).

Knew Cortland was going to be out for blood tonight - but come one guys - you've got to play defense! You've got to protect the ball! The wins this weekend were great - but it's so frustrating to have the guys come out and blow it.

Sorry Bengals - hoping Fredonia can pull off the upset - but I don't think it will happen - Buff is too fast and too athletic.

And PS - Dcahill - I know the Hawks have been up and down this season - but no supporting cast is not very accurate. See Taylor Sowah, Andrew Joseph and Kevin Roach. Nevermind frosh Deveino McCrae had 16 rebs over Buff the other night. No other team in the YAC is getting the production out of its frosh class like the Hawks... unfortunately - you seem to have only seen NP at its weakest (vs. Naz? Geneseo/Brockport?)

Feel better Magic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2013, 09:05:28 PM
Buffalo St. 47. Fredonia 35 at half. Buffs J. Simmons 12 pts, R. Epps 10 pts, C. Castren 10 pts. Bengals 17x37fg, 5x11 3s. Freds 9x22fg but 7x11 3s to stay tight early

Cortland atop New Paltz 77-45 as spares mop up with 7:30 to go

Oswego 57, Oneonta 51 with 12:30 to go

Plattsburgh 50, Potsdam 35 four minutes into second period
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2013, 09:24:05 PM

Cortland 87, New Paltz 47, final

Plattsburgh 76, Potsdam 62 with 4:30 left

Oswego 76, Oneonta 68 with two minutes left

Buffalo St. 58, Fredonia 44 with 16' to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2013, 09:36:08 PM

Oswego 79, Oneonta 75 goes final. H. Ward 33 pts (12x23fg, 4x8 3s, 5x11ft) 18 boards for Lakers. Z. Mager 21 pts, 6 rebs vs. Oneonta whose D. Lee scores 19, J. Zuvic 17

Plattsburgh 92, Potsdam 69, final. Burgh balance with S. McIntosh 14 pts; J. Perez 14 pts; J. Moody 13 pts; C. Manning 10 pts, 7 assts, 7 stls; S. Fields 10 pts; R. Williams 12 rebs. Dam's M. Lake with 14 pts; R. Duquette 12 pts; C. Pierce 12 pts. Bears 20x23ft, 21 turnovers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2013, 10:09:49 PM

Buffalo St. defeats Fredonia 92-74. R. Epps with 30 pts(11x19fg), J. Simmons 23(7x16) for Bengals. Freds A. Billups tallies 18 pts


Cortland collects its 20th win and 12th straight to close out a regular season home slate with 40 point crushing of New Paltz. Hawks were the last team to defeat the RDragons on Jan. 8. Corts put this one to bed early, seizing a 48-21 halftime bulge behind sharpshooting of J. Smith and B. Manning, and inside work of K. McMahon. McMahon wound up with 20 pts(8x10fg) and 8 rebs in 24'. Smith poured in 18 pts(7x14fg, 4x9 3s) and dealt 3 assts. Manning had 14 pts(5x9fg), 5 rebs; J. Winter 7 assts; L. Herron 7 stls, 4 assts. CSt was 30x63 from the field, 11x29 3s, 16x21ft and a mere 9 turnovers. Visiting Hawks had 24 turnovers and went 17x57fg, 4x21 3s, 9x12ft. M. Devine with 20 pts(8xq17fg, 2x6 3s), 5 rebs in 30'. D. McRae with 10 boards. S. Taylor 7 pts(3x6fg).


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2013, 11:10:46 PM
Some things were settled tonight. Cortland with their win over New Paltz has clinched the top seed and regular season championship as they hold the tiebreaker over Plattsburgh. If the Red Dragons should somehow lose their last 2 games and Plattsburgh wins their last 2 both teams would finish at 14-4.Working from top to bottom both teams had identical records against Geneseo, Oswego, Brockport, and New Paltz. That leaves the tiebreaking team Buffalo State and Cortland swept the Bengals while Plattsbutgh split with them.

Buffalo State won at Fredonia to move back into the 6th spot at 8-8. With games in Buffalo against Brockport and on the road at Geneseo, the Bengals will need to win both of these games since New Paltz owns the tiebreaker against them. New Paltz at 8-9 has a single game left as they host Oneonta on Friday night. Those Red Dragons could be pesky but I think the Hawks will win that home game. The Bengals need to get to 10-8 to beat them out. The only other scenario where Buffalo State may get a playoff spot if they don't win their last 2 games is if they go 1-1 and Brockport loses their final pair. Then if Plattsburgh finishes in 2nd place ( and they still haven't clinched it yet) The Hawks at 9-9 would come in 5th beating Port and Buff State by virtue of their win over Cortland. The Bengals would come in 6th place by virtue of their win over Plattsburgh and The Golden Eagles would be on the outside looking in.

Buffalo State has the toughest road of the the 3 teams fighting for the final 2 spots.

Quote from: hawkball on February 12, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
Feel better Magic.

I am feeling a bit better but still hacking like hell. Doctor called it the Plattsburgh Crud. Would be feeling a lot better if the Hawks had pulled off the upset tonight. :(  I knew they were up against it but didn't expect them to get monkey stomped!! They are still in good shape for a playoff spot though. I think if they beat Oneonta they're in. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2013, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 11, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
Here is a message I sent to Mr. dcahill earlier tonight as he asked me who I thought would be ranked this week:

Probably the only team that drops out is Geneseo. Plattsburgh should enter the rankings and I think they'll be in 5th place. I think this is what they'll look like.

1.  Rochester     They will still probably be in the top spot even though they were 1-1 for the week.  They have a stronger SOS than Cortland but the Red Dragons could jump over them though and it wouldn't surprise me.

2.   Cortland    A 2-0 week keeps them near or at the top.

3.   Stevens    They were 3-0 including a beatdown of Ithaca so they won't move at all.

4.   Hobart      Also went 3-0 beating the 2 cellar dwellers in the LL but also topping Union in double OT.  They won't move up but Plattsburgh I think is a better team.

5.   Plattsburgh State     A 2-0 week including the win over, then 2nd place in the SUNYAC, Geneseo by 22 points. The 10 point win over Brockport was a solid one as well. The Geneseo win also counts as a win over a regionally ranked opponent which always helps. Plattsburgh now has a 2 game lead in the loss column over Geneseo and a full 2 game lead over Oswego. Plattsburgh is the only team with an outside chance of catching Cortland.

6.   NYU      This spot could go to another team as the Violets had a bad week. Going 0-2 and with a loss to the last place team in the UAA, that won't help their cause. Of the teams that were just outside the rankings last week only Plattsburgh went undefeated. Oswego and Ithaca were ahead of Union I believe,  but they all lost a game last week. Hard to say what the committee will do with that final spot. If they don't give it to NYU it'll probably go to Union since their loss was to Hobart on the road in double OT. I hope not because they don't deserve to be ranked.

So that's my guess when they come out on Wednesday. I was perfect last week with my guesses but the 6th place spot this week is really up for grabs. Actually no one deserves it as none of the contenders have been playing that well. I don't think it really matters because whoever is in 6th place doesn't have a chance of getting a Pool C at large bid. When they are at the table with the teams from the other regions, they won't measure up, if they even get to the table. ;D


This is what I posted a few days ago concerning the regional rankings that will come out today. I think the only thing that I would change is that NYU with 2 losses last week has really tumbled in Massey's rankings. They fell 29 places so I think that Union will be the 6th ranked team this week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 13, 2013, 03:50:11 PM
Regional Rankings week #2
1. Rochester I think if Rochester loses another game Cortland MIGHT be able to challenge them for #1 spot
2. Cortland Putting together quite a resume for an at Large bid after Blowing out New Paltz and Oswego
3. Stevens I dont think they are as good as #1 and 2 but still are good 3 guys averaging way over double figures in scoring.
4. Hobart has tooken care of business in the LL and played a Tough non conference SOS.
5. Plattsburgh State No surprise here 2nd best team in the SUNYAC behind Cortland.
6. Ithaca I am very surprised with NCAA. dont think they deserve to be 6th over Oswego State who they lost to earlier in the season.
I wouldve had Oswego State in 6th, but I think the SOS in the early Non Conference Schedule hurt Oswego. Union maybe had an argument but the Non Conference SOS was Horrible. I think St John Fisher was in the mix after last nights blowout at Naz. Fisher doesnt have a bad loss besides Worcester State if they can win both games at home this weekend against Stevens and Hartwick and Ithaca slips up against Naz or Utica. Fisher could get the 6th spot in next weeks Regional Rankings.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2013, 04:15:55 PM
Honestly, Rochester is going to be tough to pass. They have right now a 7-2 record against regionally ranked opponents (Cortland 1-1) and they have a .581 SOS (Cortland .511). There are a number of teams with worse WPs and stronger SOSs who are ranked ahead of teams with the opposite info.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
Well the regional ranking were released and the top 5 spots were as I listed them earlier. The 6th spot didn't go to NYU or Union as Ithaca was ranked in that position. The Bombers regional record isn't as good as Union's but their SOS is better. I think they deserve to be ranked over the Dutchmen. Ithaca has some injury problems right now though so it remains to be seen if they'll be ranked next week. Oswego is probably sittting right behind Ithaca and they do have a win against the Bombers. The Lakers could move into the rankings if Ithaca should falter and Oswego wins their final 2 games. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 13, 2013, 03:50:11 PM
Regional Rankings week #2
1. Rochester I think if Rochester loses another game Cortland MIGHT be able to challenge them for #1 spot
2. Cortland Putting together quite a resume for an at Large bid after Blowing out New Paltz and Oswego
3. Stevens I dont think they are as good as #1 and 2 but still are good 3 guys averaging way over double figures in scoring.
4. Hobart has tooken care of business in the LL and played a Tough non conference SOS.
5. Plattsburgh State No surprise here 2nd best team in the SUNYAC behind Cortland.
6. Ithaca I am very surprised with NCAA. dont think they deserve to be 6th over Oswego State who they lost to earlier in the season.
I wouldve had Oswego State in 6th, but I think the SOS in the early Non Conference Schedule hurt Oswego. Union maybe had an argument but the Non Conference SOS was Horrible. I think St John Fisher was in the mix after last nights blowout at Naz. Fisher doesnt have a bad loss besides Worcester State if they can win both games at home this weekend against Stevens and Hartwick and Ithaca slips up against Naz or Utica. Fisher could get the 6th spot in next weeks Regional Rankings.

The committee doesn't consider games taking place this week. The rankings for this week are based on games through Sunday, Feb. 10th.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2013, 08:36:31 PM
Oswego 74, Potsdam 62 with 1' to play

Plattsburgh 68, Cortland 67  with just over 5' left

Geneseo 75, Fredonia 49 midway into the half 

New Paltz 36, Oneonta 33 at half. NP overcame OSt comeback and 31-30 lead

Brockport at Buffalo St. ........anyone?


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 15, 2013, 09:59:37 PM
Some Magic Elixer ............

Plattsburgh stops streaking Cortlands 80-77 in the north country, hitting clutch free throws down the stretch and withstanding last second three point shot by J. Smith. CSt. last lead at 69-68 on L. Herron driving hoop at 5:07. Cards' C. Manning pulls switchoo moments later and RDragons chasing for the remainder. Corts later crawl within a point but never able to regain the upper hand. K. Parker connects on big jumper at 1:20 to give him 16 pts on the night. S. McIntosh makes four free throws in the last 0:32 and C. Manning also steps to the stripe during that span and connects. CSt's Smith with clutch triple at 0:24.

Dandy scrap ........Parker in 24 reserve minutes hits 6x10 fielders(4x8 3s) in his 16 pt take. Also snares 6 rebs. Moody with 14 pts.; E. Hodgson 14 pts. C. Manning major contributor, as in 11 pts, 10 rebs, 9 assts, 4 stls in 29 minutes. McIntosh 11 pts, R. Williams 10 pts. Burgh 28x62fg, 11x23 3s, 13x16ft and mere 7 turnovers.
Corts Smith goes off for 24 pts on 9x16fg, 6x12 3s in 38 minutes. J. Winter plays the distance and has 18 pts(7x17fg, 3x8 3s) and 8 assts. H. Hefele 10 pts; K. McMahon 10 pts, 11 rebs. RDragons have 12 game win skein ended while the Burgh assures itself of second tourney seed and quarterfinal bye along with top seed tourney host Corts


Oswego 76, Potsdam 65, H. Ward 21 pts, 12 rebs.  C. Pierce nets 18 pts for the Dam
Geneseo 94, Fredonia 80, G. Lyons' 18 pts paces five double figure Knights
New Paltz 90, Oneonta 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2013, 10:20:47 PM
Thanks for the updates dex. I missed everything tonight as I was crashed from my meds and the fever I've been running. Fell asleep around 6 M as I was trying to get ready and make my escape from my wife who was bound and determined to keep me home.


Just got a score from Buffalo State. It's 84-80 Brockport, with 1:10 to go in overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2013, 10:37:40 PM
Didn't hear the final score but do know that Brockport won in overtime against Buff State.  Now it's posted 92-84 is the final.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2013, 11:21:20 PM
Magic, as I see the tea leaves, Cards worst loss is to Buff State, while Dragons worst loss is to NP, I believe tie breaker goes to Dragons for home court.

So it really doesn't matter, Dragons will host the finals.

Good luck tomorrow.  Hope you can contain Gilkes and Ward.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2013, 11:50:03 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 15, 2013, 10:37:40 PM
Didn't hear the final score but do know that Brockport won in overtime against Buff State.  Now it's posted 92-84 is the final.

Yep. Our season is over (officially tommorrow after Geneseo game). I would have rather got crushed than lose the way we did tonite. The headline on Buff State website reads as follows..."Brockport Rips Victory From Men's Basketball In Overtime". ("rips" my heart out would have put it better) >:(

1st line of story....."Buffalo State let a 10 point lead with less than 3 minutes to play slip away, and visiting Brockport escaped with a 92-84 victory tonight, eliminating the BENGALS from SUNYAC playoff contention" :-[

Not much else to add! :'(

Congrats to Brockport on their victory and to New Paltz for making the playoffs after a very slow start this season!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2013, 09:28:02 AM

Bear,

Despite his condition, Magic was aware of the postseason scenario, though it certainly did not hurry his recovery. Scroll above to his late Tuesday night's posting ....... as in Cortland would host no matter what happened this weekend. Still, Friday night's outcome brought a smile to his aching face, we're sure.  Now, as for putting a grin on the Bear .........we shall see later today.

All that said, Plattsburgh put together a fine piece of work on Friday. Had to cause the Corts did not roll over by any means. Two strong showings. And the suspense  .......ah, the suspense. We would have liked to have seen the last few minutes, but Pburgh video went dark on us. Then live stats went on the blink. Had to rely on the student audio for the closing second (and listening to that, well, only created a bit more of what the %^&%$^!). Twas excitement personified in the north country.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2013, 04:41:09 PM

Plattsburgh 33, Oswego 26 at the half

Potsdam 33, Cortland 32 at half.  Corts shooting 36 percent from the field, the Bears 55 percent. M. Lake Jr. 9 pts leads the hosts. J. Smith 16 for CSt
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2013, 05:16:35 PM


Finals ....

Cortland 69, Potsdam 56

Plattsburgh 71, Oswego 63

Tonight: Buffalo St. at Geneseo, Fredonia at Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2013, 06:03:57 PM

Cortland with a bit more urgency in the second half. Strikes for the period's first six points to reverse halftime deficit and goes on to lead by as many as 19 to secure conference regular season crown by its lonesome. RDragons 21-4 overall, 15-3 in the Yac, Bears 9-16, 5-13. Corts starting lineup the same in every game this winter -- J. Winter, J. Smith, D. Sternkopf, K. McMahon, H. Hefele.
CSt. takes care of business from beyond the arc, sinking 10x20 throws to Pdam's 3x17. Smith with 29 pts(8x13fg, 6x8 3s, 7x8ft). McMahon 11 pts(3x5fg), 6 rebs; B. Manning 11 pts(4x9fg, 3x6 3s); Hefele 8 rebs; L. Herron 4 assts; Winter 4 pts(1x10fg). Bears M. Lake Jr. 16 pts, 5 rebs; C. Peterson 11 pts, 6 rebs; Z. Adams 10 pts(4x7fg). Final collegiate game for J. Lambert, Lake, C. Pierce

Plattsburgh puts Oswego to the mat early and Lakers never recover. Down by 10 midway through the first half. OSt within 5 late. Conference runnerup Burgh holds firm. Gets 12 pts apiece from S. McIntosh, J. Moody, E. Hodgson, 10 from R. Williams along with 7 rebs. C. Manning another solid all around effort, 9 pts, 5 assts, 6 rebs, 4 stls. Oswego's H. Ward with 17 pts, 12 rebs; C. Gilkes 16 pts, 6 rebs.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 16, 2013, 08:57:38 PM
FinaL: Geneseo 83, Buffalo St. 67. This one was over early, as in Gens ahead 49-19 at the half. Knights finish 32x60 from the field. G. Lyons 18 pts, A. Drescher 17 pts, C. Fedge 15 pts. Bengals shoot 32x60fg. R. Epps 16 pts(6x18fg), J. Simmons 15 pts(5x14fg), S. Runge 12 pts, A. Hamer 10 pts

Final: Fredonia 103, Brockport 98. Foul fest in Bport where Freds are 41x49 from the FT line and 29x54 from the field. Port 29x43 free throwing. D. Kasmer polishes off Eagles at the stripe down the stretch. A. Billups 25 pts, 9 rebs in the win. Kasmer 20 pts(10x11ft). J. Ivy scores 31 pts to lead a handful of Eagles in double figures


Quarterfinal playoffs, Tuesday: 6 seed-New Paltz at 3-Geneseo, 5-Brockport at 4-Oswego. Byes for 1-Cortland, 2-Plattsburgh

Cortland hosts semifinals, final on Friday (6 and 8 p.m.) and Saturday (4 p.m.)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 17, 2013, 01:20:32 AM
   As the final game of our season comes to a end..I'm grateful. I'm grateful for having known 3 young men like Seth Runge, Anthony Hamer and Jake Simmons. I can say that these 3 seniors have made me a better person, a better man and a better father. I just wish that thier season didn't end like this. They deserved better. I couldn't be prouder of these 3 seniors. :)

   Go BENGALS ...FOREVER!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2013, 03:35:09 PM
Bengals have to be the most talented 7th place team in the history of the 'yac.

Yesterday also the last day on the hardwood of Jerry Welsh Gymnasium for Bears stalwart Curtis Pierce who finishes tied with Bear Legend Mike Deane for 6th on the all-time scoring list with 1447 points, and 6th on the all time rebounding charts with 725 career boards.

Well done Curtis, you will be missed.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2013, 07:57:31 PM
Tried to post this back on Friday night but have been so sick that I just couldn't get it done.   
I can't believe the biggest game of the year was in Plattsburgh Friday night and I didn't get to see or hear a thing about it until it was over. Several days ago I was fairly confident that my Cards could finally end their losing steak against the Red Dragons. Then our best player went down on Tuesday against Potsdam. I saw that happen and cursed the zebras because their inaction led to John Perez's injury. Several seconds before the injury took place Perez was hammered so hard, that anyone who knows anything about the game would have called a foul. This crew however kept their whistles silent and 3 seconds later Perez got hammered again which put him down and out with a leg he couldn't even stand on. They didn't call a foul on that play either. I hope I never again have to witness a game in which Kevin Garrity, Andy Atkins, or Mike Gunther are the officiating crew. These guys were pathetic. I've never in all my year's of commenting called out a crew by name since I used to be a ref and would basically give them the benefit of the doubt. These guys however, were out of line most of the night. And now John Perez has his season come to end with a fractured tibia because they didn't do what the job required. What's even more tragic about these officials is a number of calls they made that were so blatenly the exact opposite of the hard fouls they didn't call. In the 1st period with 13:26 to go they called a foul on Chris Manning that was as much a phantom foul as you'll ever see. The Plattsburgh coach registered a mild complaint and to show him and everyone else who the boss was the same official called another phantom foul on Manning 5 seconds later at 13:21, effectively ending the players first half as he now was on the bench for the remainder of the period. This guy is one of those officials who obviously thinks the game is about him and not the teams invovled. Someone needs to do D3 a favor and get this guy back doing church leagues where he belongs. This crew missed so many obvious fouls on both teams, yet called fouls when there was little or no contact, that the word consistency isn't part of their vocabulary.

The bottom line is a young man is now faced with a rehab assignment, the loss of the chance to play for a championship, and possibly a chance to play in the NCAA tournament. It not only affects him but certainly hurts the team since their best player will be missing and it's hard to replace your leading rebounder and 2nd leading scorer. I can only hope that John's ability to bounce back from this injury with out any serious complications will prove to be the case and he'll return next season for a great Senior year.

As for the 3 aforementioned officials, I hope you never again grace the inside of Memorial Hall. Or any SUNYAC gym for that matter.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2013, 11:05:54 AM
FRONT PAGE STORY (Democrat and Chronicle - Rochester NY) on JAKE SIMMONS this past SUNDAY

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013302170030&nclick_check=1

It is probably the most concise recording of what this kid has been thru in his life. Congrats to Jim Mandelaro and the staff at  the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 19, 2013, 08:44:32 PM
Bengalsrule - Thank you so much for posting the article about Jake Simmons!  Plus Karma for sure!  What an heartfelt story. A true story about the courageous spirit of an accomplished young man.  Haven't felt well for the last couple of months (guess old guys like Magicman and me just watch ourselves get more and more decrepit-no offense Magic - know you have been "under the weather" too.)   Haven't been to a game all season and know every one of my favorite teams has been eliminated by the skin of their teeth Clarkson, Hamilton & Buff State but every once and while you get to read a story like that and you know that the game of basketball transcends sport and sometimes operates on a higher plain.  It just makes me smile. Thanks again.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2013, 09:25:13 PM
Geneseo defeats New Paltz 98-80 to advance to the semi-finals of the SUNYAC tournament.


Oswego leads Brockport 65-56 with 4:44 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2013, 09:58:42 PM


Oswego 78, Brockport 66, final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2013, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 19, 2013, 08:44:32 PM
Bengalsrule - Thank you so much for posting the article about Jake Simmons!  Plus Karma for sure!  What an heartfelt story. A true story about the courageous spirit of an accomplished young man.  Haven't felt well for the last couple of months (guess old guys like Magicman and me just watch ourselves get more and more decrepit-no offense Magic - know you have been "under the weather" too.)   Haven't been to a game all season and know every one of my favorite teams has been eliminated by the skin of their teeth Clarkson, Hamilton & Buff State but every once and while you get to read a story like that and you know that the game of basketball transcends sport and sometimes operates on a higher plain.  It just makes me smile. Thanks again.

Thank you with age. If ever this league had an exceptional kid with a truly exceptional story...Jake is it!! I appreciate your feedback!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2013, 11:15:21 PM

Semis at Cortland on Friday shape up with 18-7 Plattsburgh vs. 17-9 Geneseo at 6 p.m.; 21-4 Cortland vs. 19-7 Oswego at 8 p.m.

Final at Cortland on Saturday, 4 p.m.

Geneseo advances past guest New Paltz with hot shooting display, a school record 37x50 from the field including a 12-for-12 start. Still, NP hangs around. The Hawks hit their first 11-of-14 shots. A tight first half scrap ends with a Geneseo flourish and a 47-43 edge at the break. Knights keeps the upper hand and withstands a 59-57 NP approach at 12:24 when soph J. McKenna makes treys on successive possessions. Momemtum rides with Gens. Soph G. Lyons 22 pts(9x10fg), 8 rebs, 4assts; jr C. Fedge 18 pts(8x10fg); jr T. Decker 15 pts; jr. J. Jones 13 pts; R. Riefenhauser 8 rebs, 5 assts, 2 stls. NP goes 32x65fg, 12x32 3s keyed by M. Devine's 24 pts(10x16fg); S. Taylor 16 pts(6x22f), 10 rebs, 5 assts; A. Joseph 13 pts(5x8fg,3x4 3s), 4 assts; K. Donovan 12 pts(4x7 3s). Hawks wind up 11-15

Oswego and Brockport go into halftime all square at 34 with the Port erasing a late five point OSt advantage completely when L. Legister makes a '3' at 0:05. With the match 42-42 at 16:58, S. Michele's bucket lifts Lakers into the lead at 16:17. Host Oswego extends by a bit, but twas a four point game at 9:39, 10 at 7:05 and 14 on a H. Ward hoop at 2:58. Oswego 27x51fg, 17x24ft to Eagles 26x64fg,5x10ft. Lakers' Ward 16 pts(6x18fg), 16 rebs in 34'; K. Covley 16 pts(5x8fg, 4x6 3s) in 25'; C. Gilkes 14 pts, 6 rebs; S. Michele 13 pts; D. Ross 12 pts(3x3fg, 2x2 3s). Port's J. Ivy 15 pts(6x16fg, 3x5 3s), 4pf in 24'; J. Major 14 pts, 8 rebs; B. Carruthers 12 pts, 5 rebs; M. Gallagher 12 pts(6x8fg); D. Klein 5 assts. Brockport record slips to 15-11

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 21, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
Board members if you would like to tune into Hoopsville tonight i will be on around 830.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2013, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 21, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
Board members if you would like to tune into Hoopsville tonight i will be on around 830.

Did I understand you correctly???

OMG!!!! Im watching dcahill (Derrick Cahill)... a 13 year old kid on D3Hoops! Photos and everything!! Now he is doing the regional rankings. Damn..I'm 55 and been blogging for 3 years and haven't been invited once!

Congrats Dcahill. Im enjoying listening to you live!!! You are holding your own with Dave McHugh. You know your Cortland roster!!! Im sure Magicman appreciated your shout out for his Cards!!

Now I know how Naz' and Medaille get their inside info! To quote Dave Mchugh..."You certainly know your stuff!"

Great interview! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 21, 2013, 08:55:55 PM
Thanks Bengalsrule
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2013, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2013, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 21, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
Board members if you would like to tune into Hoopsville tonight i will be on around 830.

Did I understand you correctly???

OMG!!!! Im watching dcahill (Derrick Cahill)... a 13 year old kid on D3Hoops! Photos and everything!! Now he is doing the regional rankings. Damn..I'm 55 and been blogging for 3 years and haven't been invited once!

Congrats Dcahill. Im enjoying listening to you live!!! You are holding your own with Dave McHugh. You know your Cortland roster!!! Im sure Magicman appreciated your shout out for his Cards!!

Now I know how Naz' and Medaille get their inside info! To quote Dave Mchugh..."You certainly know your stuff!"

Great interview! ;)

Bengal - you are one of a few I have thought about having on the show, but just added the segment recently, and you don't have a number of coaches telling me I should have you on :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2013, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2013, 10:14:31 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2013, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 21, 2013, 04:44:13 PM
Board members if you would like to tune into Hoopsville tonight i will be on around 830.

Did I understand you correctly???

OMG!!!! Im watching dcahill (Derrick Cahill)... a 13 year old kid on D3Hoops! Photos and everything!! Now he is doing the regional rankings. Damn..I'm 55 and been blogging for 3 years and haven't been invited once!

Congrats Dcahill. Im enjoying listening to you live!!! You are holding your own with Dave McHugh. You know your Cortland roster!!! Im sure Magicman appreciated your shout out for his Cards!!

Now I know how Naz' and Medaille get their inside info! To quote Dave Mchugh..."You certainly know your stuff!"

Great interview! ;)

Bengal - you are one of a few I have thought about having on the show, but just added the segment recently, and you don't have a number of coaches telling me I should have you on :).

;D No problem Dave. I gotta get in the ear of Ansari, Curle, Dunne and co. I really enjoyed the show tonite. Keep up the good work. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2013, 11:19:52 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 21, 2013, 08:55:55 PM
Thanks Bengalsrule

You are welcome Dcahill. Keep up the good work. You made us SUNYAC'ers, and fans of D3 hoops in NY state, proud! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 07:32:09 AM
Brockport's State John Ivy has been selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Here's the write up from the YAC website:

"John Ivy scored a career-high 35 points in a 92-84 overtime victory over Buffalo State on Friday to secure a playoff berth. Ivy scored his second straight 30-point game and fourth of the season with 31 against Fredonia and moved into 15th on the all-time scoring list at Brockport. He shot 46.3 percent in the two games while grabbing four steals in each contest. Ivy has scored at least 20 points in 11 straight games and is averaging 25.3 points per game over that stretch."

Congratulations to John on a fine career at Brockport. Barring an ECAC game he has played his final game for the Golden Eagles. I'm sure his selection to an upcoming SUNYAC All Conference team is just a formality. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
My thoughts as to All Conference.

MVP (Smith or Ward)

1st team
Jeremy Smith
Jon Ivy
Hayden Ward
Jake Simmons
Matt Devine

2nd Team
Jesse Winter
Shamoy McIntosh
Gordon Lyons
Rod Epps
Curtis Pierce (hurt by his team's finish)

3rd Team
Brian Manning
John Perez
Connor Fedge
Sherrif Taylor
Zach Mager

Newcomer
Rod Epps



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 05:04:13 PM
SUNYAC semifinals start tonight at 6:00 PM

Game #1

#3 Geneseo State vs #2 Plattsburgh State  This will be broadcast by Cortland Internet Radio with Bobby Comstock doing his excellent radio commentary. Always a pleasure to listen to. Their will also be live stats up a.nd running. Here's the links to the Cortland radio and live stats: http://www.cortlandreddragons.com/index.aspx?tab=basketball&path=mbball

Plattsburgh and Geneseo have both won at home and now comes the rubber match on a neutral court to settle things for the year. Geneseo won at home by 2 points 66-64 back in January. Plattsburgh won 84-62, 2 weeks ago in the Burgh. Some things have changed considerably since that one sided defeat. Geneseo was missing point guard Thomas Decker in that game and he has now returned to the lineup and appears to be at nearly full strength as he started and scored 15 points on Tuesday night in the win over New Paltz. he logged 19 minutes of court time in that contest. Plattsburgh, on the other hand has lost their leading rebounder and 2nd leading scorer, John Perez who went down against Potsdam with a fractured tibia. While it's hard  to replace a player of Perez's caliber the strength of this Plattsburgh State team all year has been it's depth with so many different contributors capable of stepping up and leading the team in scoring or rebounding. Big Man Reggie Williams has stepped into the starting lineup in place of Perez and has come up with back to back games with double figures as he's averaging 10 ppg, 6 rpg and 3 blocks per game. Kalik Parker came off the bench against Cortland and led the team with 16 points (6x10 fg, 4x8 3's) and 6 rebounds. 5 other players all had double figures and point guard Chris Manning nearly had a triple double with 11 points, 10 rebounds, 9 assists and 4 steals. I f this guy doesn't make All Conference then the voters have got their priorities mixed up because he just beats you in so many different ways. He leads the nation in steals with 102 for a 4.08 per game average. he's also 13th in the nation in assists with 152 for a 6.08 per game average. He's not a big scorer but has had double figures on 8 different occasions and averages 6.6 ppg  and pulls down 4.4 rpg. He is so quick that in a matter of minutes he can change a game and has done so in numerous games. He backcourt mate Shamoy McIntosh is no slouch when it comes to turning up the heat on defense and Jordan Moody is also a quick and athletic defender. I think the depth that the Cardinals bring to the table will overcome the loss of their star player, Perez. I see this game as a much closer contest than the one that took place two weeks ago but I think the Cards will come away with a 77-71 victory here.

Plattsburgh with a 4th place ranking in the latest East Regional Rankings has put themselves in a decent position to gain a Pool C bid even if they lose the SUNYAC Tournament. I believe they need to win tonight however and make it to the final game against Cortland. Even if we lose that game I think we gain one of the 19 Pool C bids out there. I remember several years ago when Hamilton was in good shape for a Pool C bid if they didn't win the Liberty League. They lost in the semifinals however instead of the finals and were left on the outside looking in. Had they won that semifinal game they were a lock to go dancing. i think Plattsburgh may be in that same position this year. We need to win tonight and we should be okay. Here's hoping the guys share the rock, look for the open man, take good shot selections, build a lead, play smart wtih the lead, and if the lead is manageable near the end that we use some clock and shorten the game. Go Cards!!!!       

Game #2

#4 Oswego State vs #1 Cortland State   

Hard to believe that the Red Dragons can run roughshod over the Lakers like they did 2 weeks ago. I certainly don't foresee that happening again but I do see a Cortland victory on the horizon. This year is payback to Oswego for the past couple of years that the Burridge led Lakers had their way with the Dragons. Three times Oswego beat Cortland last year. The first game was a down to the wire barnburner won by the Lakers 69-67. The 2nd game was a blowout won by the Lakers in Cortland 84-65 and the 3rd game was in the championship of the YAC tournament that was a much closer decision when the Lakers pulled away from a 53-50 lead in the final 3 minutes to win by a 66-57 final.

Can you say deja vu?
This year the Red Dragons won a down to the wire barnburner in Oswego 75-69 that was a 1 possession game with under 20 seconds to go. Then Cortland blitzed the Lakers in Cortland 2 weeks ago worse than Oswego beat them in game 2 last year as they won by a 78-46 score. Now comes the YAC Tournament and game #3. I see this being a repeat of last years final with Oswego hanging with the Dragons but in the end Winter, Manning, Smith, McMahon, Sternkopf and Hefele will prevail. I think this one will end up 74-67 and hope the Dragons will meet my Cards in the final tomorrow night.

I missed last week's matchup with Cortland against my Cardinals as I was not too healthy at the time. It was the one game I was looking forward to all year long and I missed it completely. I'm hopeful I'll get a chance at a rematch tomorrow if the basketball gods are smiling on me tonight. I'm rooting for the Red Dragons here because to be the best you have to beat the best and this year at least so far the boys from Cortland have been the best. So go Red Dragons!!! Hope to see you tomorrow afternoon, live on the D3 hoops video broadcast.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 06:37:18 PM
Plattsburgh leads Geneseo 30-28 at the half. Kalik Parker has come off the bench for the Cardinals and hit 6x6 from the field including 5x5 from downtown to lead all scorers with 17 points.

Connor Fedge and Gordon Lyons lead Geneseo with 8 points each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 07:08:11 PM
Plattsburgh continues to lead Geneseo 57-50 with 6:56 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 07:16:28 PM
Plattsburgh leads 65 to 55 with 3:27 left in the game. Cards need to use some clock on each possession now and play smart.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 07:24:35 PM
Plattsburgh now in control with a 71-59 lead with 49 seconds left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 07:36:40 PM
Final Score Plattsburgh State 77 Geneseo State 67.   Way to go Cardinals. I predicted a final score of Plattsburgh 77 Geneseo 71 so I was pretty darn close to hitting that one right on the money.  Some details on the game to follow. Just need Cortland to take care of business next game and I'll get my wish of a Plattsburgh-Cortland rubber match. Wish it was in Plattsburgh though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 08:33:20 PM
Cortland State leads Oswego State 29-28 at the half.

Jesse Winter leads the Red Dragons with 10 points, brian manning with 9.

Sean Michele with 8 and Hayden Ward with 7 lead the Lakers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 09:14:32 PM
Cortland with some separation has now opened up a 54-41 lead over Oswego with 5:51 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 22, 2013, 09:29:53 PM

Cortland 65, Oswego 54, final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 09:31:32 PM
Final score in Cortland as the Red Dragons defeat Oswego State 65-54.

I got my wish as Cortland meets the Cards for all the marbles tomorrow afternoon. Get that video up and runnning Please Fran. 8-) ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 22, 2013, 09:42:45 PM
Cortland finds its shooting touch in the final half to dispatch Lakers. Ragged first half that found OSt firing at a 20 percent clip at one stage and RDragons not much better. Oswego capitalized on Cortland turnovers and strong offensive board play into the half. Corts finish the game at 51 percent from the field to Oswego's 33 percent, and Dragons make 12 of 25 3-pointers!

Corts up 46-33 in the second half and Oswego makes a few approaches .......mostly answered by CSt's J. Smith. At 54-39, Lakers climb back to 55-46 behind Covley trey and C. Gilkes hoop at 4:00. Smith to the rescue for the hosts.

J. Winter with 18 pts(7x14fg, 4x10 3s), 4 assts for Cortland. Smith with 17 pts(6x11fg, 4x6 3s) ....B. Manning 11 pts(3x5 3s). D. Sternkopf 6 rebs, 5pf in 16'.  Oswego's H. Ward with 13 pts6x14fg), 12 rebs; D. Ross 12 pts; S. Michele 10 pts(3x10fg), 3 assts; Gilkes 9 pts(4x12fg), 7 rebs.

Oswego with a mere 3 turnovers to CSt's 10. Cortland with 34-33 board edge although Lakers snare 15 off the offensive glass
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 09:50:51 PM
So happy for my Cardinals because they took care of business, and now it's looking real good that they can get a Pool C bid even if they lose in the SUNYAC Finals tomorrow afternoon.

The teams played a pretty even first half with the biggest lead being a 4 point edge by the Cards and a 3 point lead by Geneseo. There were 11 lead changes and 3 ties with Plattsburgh gaining the lead on a Shavar Fields jumper with a minute left in the period to send the Cards into the break up 30-28. Clearly the spectacular play of Kalik Parker who came off the bench hotter than three mile island plutonium rods carried the Cardinals through the period. Parker hit 6 straight shots, starting with a 3 pointer with 9:33 left in the half that gave Plattsburgh a 14-13 lead. He then hit a layup followed by another 3 that gave Plattsburgh the lead again at 19-17. Geneseo regained the lead by 3 at 22-19 only to have Parker bury another deep ball to tie it up. After the Blue Knights went back up by 2 Parker fires another triple to put the Cards back up 25-24. Geneseo regains the lead only to have Mr. Parker hit his 6th straight shot and 17th consecutive Plattsburgh point to put the cards up 28 to 26. Geneseo ties it at 28 and finally another Cardinal player other than Kalik makes a basket to give the Cards the halftime lead. 

The Cards came out of the locker room and looked to take control of the contest as they quickly opened up a 9 point advantage on the strength of 2 Jordan Moody drives to the hoop and a Reggie Williams layup followed by a thundrous dunk. Williams then stole the ball and fed Shamoy McIntosh for a driving layup and the Cards were up 40-31. The Blue Knights would climb back to within a single possession but the cards would open it back up to another 9 point lead at 46-37. Still up 9 at 48-39 the Cardinals fell victim to some 3 point shooting by the Blue Knights as Andy Drescher hit a pair of triples and Thomas Decker nailed one and just like that the score was tied at 50 with 9:44 left in the game. That was the final time the score was tied as Plattsburgh put together the definintive run that essentially put the game in their control and Geneseo was forced to play from behind the rest of the way. The run started innocently enough as Jordan Moody hit a pair of free throws. Geneseo's Drescher missed a 3 pointer and Kalik Parker came down and buried another one for the Cardinals. Parker then stole the ball and fed Moody who was fouled and sank 2 more from the line. Geneseo took a time out but failed to score on their possession, got an offensive rebound had the shot blocked by Williams and Mike Mitchell came down and hit a jumper for the Cards to make it 59-50. After the teams traded turnovers Chris Manning stole the ball and fed Jordan Moody who was fouled and made 2 more from the line to make it an 11-0 run and with only 5:16 left to play the clock became the Blue Knights biggest concern. The lead fluctuated between 9 and 16 points the rest of the way.

Plattsburgh was led by Kalik Parker's 20 points (7x9 fg, 6x8 3's) 3 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal. Jordan Moody had 14 points (4x8 fg, 0x1 3's, 6x6 ft) while Shamoy McIntosh tossed in 11 points (5x13 fg, 1x6 3's, and grabbed 5 rebounds. Reggie Williams continues to play well as he takes over for injured starter John Perez. Reggie had 8 points tonight and led the Cards with 10 rebounds. He also had 4 more blocks and 2 steals in 22 minutes of floor time. He's really been a clutch performer the past 5 games. Ezra Hodgson also had a solid night with 8 points (4x8 fg, 0x3 3's), 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Chris Manning had 3 points, 7 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals. Shavar Fields had 7 points and 5 rebounds off the bench in 19 minutes on the floor.  The Cards shot 29x58 from the field (50%) and 8 x24 from downtown (33.3%). They were 11x15 from the line (73.3%).  Rebound and turnovers were fairly even as the Cards had 36 rebounds to 37 for Geneseo. The Blue Knights had 13 turnovers to 12 for Plattsburgh.

Geneseo was led by Gordon Lyons with 19 points (7x13 fg, 5x6 ft) and had a double-double with 12 rebounds. Connor Fedge had 15 points (6x15 fg, 1x1 3's, 2x4 ft) with 6 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists. Thomas Decker had 12 points (4x8 fg, 4x8 3's) with 4 assists. Andy Drescher ended up with 9 points on 3x8 shooting from downtown. The Knights shot 25x63 from the field (39.7%), 9x21 from long distance (42.9%) and 8x14 from the line (57.1%)

Geneseo season will likely end with tonight's loss with a final record of 17-10. A solid season for the Blue Knights but I'm sure a little short of their expectations.


Plattsburgh improves to 19-7 overall and will take on the 22-4 Red Dragons at 4:00 PM tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2013, 10:16:45 PM
I said earlier today that the games this year between Cortland and Oswego were deja vu of the 3 games from last year except the 3rd game hadn't been played yet. But I thought it would be similar to the championship game of last year. It wouldn't be the barnburner,  it wouldn't be the blowout, but probably somewhere in that 7 to 10 point range so I settled on a 74-67 final score. Little did I know I could have picked last years score and been awful close as Oswego won the 3rd game last year 66-57.

Cortland wins the 3rd game this year 65-54. So it really was deja vu all over again except the 3 time loser from last year became the 3 time winner for this year. And vice versa for the Lakers.

Great careers for Hayden Ward, Sean Michele, and Chris Gilkes. You will be missed next year in the YAC. Hold your heads up high guys you were a treat to watch for the past 4 years and you had some amazing runs. A little luck from the basketball gods last year and the year before that would have been nice but they were still great years. Good luck in your future endeavors, May you be as successful in life as you were on the court. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 22, 2013, 10:25:25 PM
I think I need to drive down to Cortland and make some noise and cheer for the winners from the North Country  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2013, 03:00:33 PM
Plattsburgh State vs Cortland State 4:00 PM

How fitting that the penultimate game of the season in the SUNYAC should come down to these 2 teams. I'm hoping for a barnburner of the 1st degree this afternoon and of course I'm rooting for my Cards to come out on top. The odds are not in their favor though and the point spread has the Red Dragons favored by 8 points. Cortland has not lost at home this year going a perfect 11-0 and has won every game by double digits except a 79-73 decision over Geneseo. They defeated the Cardinals 68-55 back on December 1st but I think the young Plattsburgh State team has improved since that game. I'm just not sure if they've improved a 13 point differential. This game pits the YAC's top team of this year against what I believe, will be the YAC's top team of next year. Can the future be now? It can if the Cards bench stays hot and if, defensively, they limit the number of made 3 pointers that the Cortland sharpshooters will be firing up all day long. Can Kalik Parker give the Cards a game like he did yesterday? Probably not but hopefully he can get some help from other players that have stepped up big time for the Cardinals in a number of situations this year and the depth that has carried this team, this far, can get them to the finish line one more time. I know the Red Dragons have already made the NCAA tournament  whether they win or lose this game. I think my Cards have done so as well, but there's always the chance of too many top seeds getting upset and you end up on the bubble because of that fact. I'd like to take the guesswork right out of the equation this afternoon and just win the automatic bid and know we don't have to sweat out an at large selection. The Cards need to play like there's no tomorrow and maybe the Red Dragons, already with their dancing shoes on, just might not bring the same level of  intensity and Plattsburgh can come away with the win. So, once again I'll buck the odds, put my heart on my sleeve and pick the Cards to win a thriller, 76-74. Go CARDS!!       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2013, 04:19:19 PM
I 2nd magicmans predicition. The Cards will be SUNYAC champs!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2013, 04:36:03 PM
Cortland leads  Plattsburgh 41-27 at the half.

Harrison Hefele with 13 to lead the Red Dragons. Jeremy Smith with 12.  Cortland already with eight 3 pointers in the game. Not what I had in mind. Cards need to regroup and play better  D or this one is over.

Jordan Moody leads Plattsburgh with 9 points. Cards with only two 3 pointers, need to make up this huge difference in shooting from downtown. Cards with 11 turnovers in the first half, Cortland only has committed 4. Big impact on the game so far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2013, 05:35:31 PM
Cortland defeats Plattsburgh 75-61 to win the SUNYAC Championship.

Congratulations to the Red Dragons. They were the better team today from start to finish. Hopefully the Cards will also get a bid to the NCAA's but 2 games that we needed to go our way didn't.

We needed Stevens to beat Ithaca but the Bombers won the E8 Crown with a 70-55 win over Stevens.

We needed Rochester to beat Emory today but the Yellowjackets are losing by a large margin 62-45 with only 5:34 to play. Washington U already beat Chicago, so if Rochester loses to Emory and it looks like they will then Washington U will get the automatic bid from the UAA conference.

**Edit**  Rochester lost to Emory 72-54 so Washington U has won the tiebreaker and will receive the automatic bid to the UAA Conference.

This means that Plattsburgh will be the 3rd team from the East to get to the table for a Pool C bid. Rochester should go quickly but Stevens could hold us back for a few rounds. We will now have to sweat it out I believe. Not a happpy camper. :( 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2013, 06:18:40 PM
Based on this weekend, Jeremy Smith did much to secure his claim on SUNYAC POY.

Span clearly COY,  Hefele may sneak in ahead of Manning, or the Dragons may place 4 on All-SUNYAC.

congrats Dragons, hope you go far. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 23, 2013, 09:30:16 PM
3 Men's basketball teams which are supported by the New York State Department of Education won their conference today. Cortland, Morrisville, and Purchase.  Would be  interesting if they were all put into the same NCAA pool to see who is is truly the best SUNY men's basketball team.  My money is on Purchase.  Morrisville plays in a weak conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2013, 11:32:54 PM
The NEAC was only in its semis today. Morrisville has to beat Wells tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2013, 06:54:33 AM
After looking at my friend the bear's All conference list I would agree with most of his choices but maybe in a slightly different order.

Certainly everyone he mentioned had a solid to spectacular year.

Here's my selections: They probably won't be the ones that will be the Official SUNYAC selections but that's OK.  I like my choices and have my reasons for them. I've listed more teams than the league will but our league has more teams than a number of other leagues so there's more talent to evaluate with 10 teams instead of 8 as so many leagues have. I believe every player I've mentioned here has been worthy of consideration and there are at least another 12 to 15 players I would like to give a shout out to but I had to cut off my list or I would have named way too many players. 


Player of the Year:  Jake Simmons Buffalo State
     
His body of work over his 4 year career is one of the most outstanding in SUNYAC history. His last 2 years were shortchanged as Buffalo State fell victim to injuries and academic problems that left Jake without enough of a supporting cast to help him carry the load. Scoring over 2000 points for his career (2079 to be exact) despite usually being the focus of the other teams defensive plans to keep him in check says it all. He ended up leading the conference in scoring this year with a 21.4 ppg average.  His shooting percentages were always very good from the field (47.7% this year), from downtown (41.0% this year), and from the line (82.5% this year). And there were many games in Jake's career where he didn't stay on the court just to pad his stats or his totals would have been even higher. A classy player who overcame tremendous odds just to attend college, the fact that he went on to become a Buffalo State Basketball Legend just makes this the feelgood story of the past 4 years. Pretty sure he would have been selected as a D3hoops Preseason All American this year if the question of his eligibility hadn't been a problem when they had to name their teams. The fact that the Bengals lost their big man after the break which cost them a chance at the playoffs may also cost Jake a chance at more post season awards had his team done better. Despite the Bengals disappointing season Jake is still my Player of the Year. He not only led the league in scoring but was near the leaders in so many other categories that to me this choice is a no brainer. 

Coach of the Year:   Tom Spanbauer Cortland State

Coach Spanbauer had the horses and he knew just how to keep them running well. His team posted a 23-4 record (so far) and was only 17 points from perfection. They protected their home court, going undefeated at Corey Gym and won every game there but 1 by double digits. I hope they have a nice run in the NCAA's. 

Coach Tom Curle was my runner up in the COY category. He took a team that didn't have a single senior player on it that went 6-12 in the YAC last year and 8-18 overall, and brought them almost to the top of the league. Hopefully his 19-8 turnaround will be good enough to gain a Pool C bid into the tournament along with Cortland. 

Rookie of the Year:    Jackson Zuvic  Oneonta State

Only a freshman, the 6'5" forward, Zuvic was the Red Dragons' 2nd leading scorer with an 11.4 ppg average, scoring 286 points. He was also their 2nd leading rebounder with 130 for a 5.2 rpg average. He started 22 of 25 games and played nearly 23 minutes per game. He shot 129 x 253 from the field for a 51% average. 

Close behind in the ROY voting was 6'7" freshman forward Deveino McRae, from New Paltz State. McRae averaged 7.9 ppg and 6.2 rpg while starting in 23 of the Hawks 25 games. He was the 3rd leading scorer and 3rd leading rebounder on the team and averaged  53.3 % shooting from the field going 73x137. He scored 198 points and grabbed 155 rebounds.

Rod Epps who was the bear's choice for ROY or newcomer wouldn't qualify this year as he is a sophomore and scored 246 points last year as a freshman for the Bengals. Sorry bear ;D 

SUNYAC All Conference  First Team

Guard      Sr   Jake Simmons        Buffalo State
Guard      Sr   John Ivy                 Brockport State
Guard      Sr   Jeremy Smith         Cortland State
Forward   Sr  Matt Devine            New Platz State             
Forward   Sr  Hayden Ward         Oswego State

SUNYAC All Conference 2nd Team

Guard      Jr   Chris Manning        Plattsburgh State
Guard      Sr   Jesse Winter         Cortland State
Guard      So  Zach Mager           Oneonta State
Forward  So  Gordon Lyons        Geneseo State
Forward  Sr   Curtis Pierce          Potsdam State

SUNYAC All Conference 3rd Team

Guard      So  Shamoy McIntosh       Plattsburgh State
Guard      Sr   Mark Lake Jr.              Potsdam  State
Guard      So  Rod Epps                    Buffalo State      Tie
Guard      Sr   Shareef Taylor            New Platz State Tie
Forward   Jr   John Perez                  Plattsburgh State
Forward   Jr   Kevin McMahon           Cortland State

SUNYAC All Conference 4th Team

Guard       Jr   Connor Fedge           Geneseo State
Guard       Sr   Brian Manning           Cortland State
Forward   Sr   Chris Gilkes               Oswego State
Forward   Jr    Tyrone Clark              Fredonia State
Forward   Sr   Ryan Riefenhauser    Geneseo State  Tie
Forward   Sr   Harrison Hefele         Cortland State   Tie


 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 24, 2013, 07:12:09 AM
I jumped the gun on Morrisville, they play Wells 13-13 who they beat twice.  prediction Morrisville wins but we play the games so that Cinderella can find the slipper.  Then the NCAA should put these 3 schools into a bracket.  It'll will be like the federated tournament in Glen Falls after New York crowns a boys basketball champ we then let NYC come north to see if the rest of the state can really compete.  Answer  is usually no but we still play the games.  We have to play the games that's what makes its fun and interesting.

PS how does Potsdam replace the points from Pierce on a team that went 9-16,  He was lost on some bad teams over his 4 years.  Don't see the Bears being any better next year losing their best player with no one behind him to replace his leadership.  Maybe its time for the Bears to follow Morrisville and Utech  or ?.  Why doesn't Potsdam recruit players from Syracuse or Albany anymore.  Is there no D3 talent in those markets?  Look at Plattsburgh's roster and compare it to Potsdam.  Both northern schools way out of the way.  Plattsburgh currently very successful.  Potsdam living in the past. Potsdam Maxcy Hall.  Plattsburgh Memorial Hall.  The difference is a coach that recruits winning players then teaches them how to be winners.  I truly hope Plattsburgh gets a in.  I don't have a vote but I would vote for the Cardinals.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 24, 2013, 10:11:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2013, 05:35:31 PM
Cortland defeats Plattsburgh 75-61 to win the SUNYAC Championship.

Congratulations to the Red Dragons. They were the better team today from start to finish. Hopefully the Cards will also get a bid to the NCAA's but 2 games that we needed to go our way didn't.

We needed Stevens to beat Ithaca but the Bombers won the E8 Crown with a 70-55 win over Stevens.

We needed Rochester to beat Emory today but the Yellowjackets are losing by a large margin 62-45 with only 5:34 to play. Washington U already beat Chicago, so if Rochester loses to Emory and it looks like they will then Washington U will get the automatic bid from the UAA conference.

**Edit**  Rochester lost to Emory 72-54 so Washington U has won the tiebreaker and will receive the automatic bid to the UAA Conference.

This means that Plattsburgh will be the 3rd team from the East to get to the table for a Pool C bid. Rochester should go quickly but Stevens could hold us back for a few rounds. We will now have to sweat it out I believe. Not a happpy camper. :(

I have no doubt that your Cards will get a Pool C Bid!

And I like your POY prediction!!! ;)

Congrats to the Red Dragons on thier SUNYAC Title!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 24, 2013, 11:40:08 AM
If Plattsburgh gets a Pool C bid i would be a little surprised but i do think they deserve it after putting a pretty good resume. they will be one of the last 4 to make the tournament i think..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 25, 2013, 02:47:56 AM
"... Potsdam living in the past. Potsdam Maxcy Hall.  Plattsburgh Memorial Hall.  The difference is a coach that recruits winning players then teaches them how to be winners...."

No more Jerry Welsh handing out FREE NCAA Final four t-shirts, jackets and hats out of the trunk of his car in the parking lot probably hurts recruiting in some cases.     :P   just saying

If I had a son, no doubt in my mind Tom Curle would be tops on the list followed closely by Mike Neer of Hobart.

Memorial Hall has character and the Field house (floor) was/is a terrible venue.   Larry Parker's ankle injury (tripped up by "the bubble" ) changed everything in the 1975-76 season.  WE won every home game after the move that season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2013, 08:22:46 AM
Sure hope the projections that have been put forth by D3 hoops, Titan Q, and KnightSlappy that are all showing Plattsburgh State getting a Pool C bid are accurate. I know I'll be sweating it out but really feel that the Cardinals and a 2nd SUNYAC team deserve to be in the NCAA tournament.  4 more hours or so of waiting for the news. This is worse than waiting for Christmas morning to arrive and open those presents. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 25, 2013, 10:07:14 AM
Easy magic 1! The Cards are in. Just depends on how far they have to travel. Maybe Middlebury???  Methinks that Curle and Co. could come out of that region unscathed!!!!   BTW....Is Perez done for the year??

I hope that Cortland put in a bid to be a host school (request was due weeks ago). Thier location makes them a natural for a ton of schools!

2 'Yac schools in the Sweet 16?? Defintly doable!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 25, 2013, 11:42:55 AM

Noticed no one filed this, soooooooo .......

All-Tourney Team: MVP J. Smith (Cort). H. Hefele (Cort), J. Winter (Cort), J. Moody (Plat), R. Williams (Plat), G. Lyons (Gen)

Title test went according to how the RDragons got it done most of the second half of the season. Close early although the Burgh could have made some hay if not for turnovers. Corts steady themselves and take charge with three-point makes. Experience weighed in for sure. J. Smith with a lot more consistency for the season than a year ago, and K. McMahon inside  beneficary of Smith/Winter penetration, along with wing sharpshooters Hefele and B. Manning. Think Manning probably underappreciated. Able to do a lot of things. And off the bench.

Plattsburgh had its chances. Missed from beyond the arc in crucial attempts, and at the stripe, 15-for-26! Had big opportunity after trailing 54-36 at the 16:16 mark. Climbed within 61-53 at 8:51 and had a wide open trey crack. Dragons took the hint and quickly widened the gap with threes. Where the Cards slipped, Cortland didn't, as in cashing 14-of-33 threes and going 15x18 at the line. No doubt a tough bunch to defend.

Smith with 25 pts(8x15fg, 4x10 3s), 3 assts; Hefele 17 pts(4x8 3s), 5 rebs; McMahon 12 pts(4x4fg), 5 rebs; Winter 10 pts, 7 assts, 3 stls; Manning 9 pts(3x8 3s), 6 rebs. Cards Moody 16 pts(4x8fg, 2x3 3s, 6x12ft), 6 rebs; S. McIntosh 12 pts; Williams 12 pts(4x4fg, 4x4ft), 3 blks; K. Parker 0 pts(0x4fg, 0x2 3s), 7 rebs

And for our money Smith reigns over the All-Conference. In fact, Bear's selections fit our thinking nicely. Simmons a great story, great career ........but the Bengals, yes, shorthanded, missed the playoffs for pete's sake.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2013, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 25, 2013, 10:07:14 AM
Easy magic 1! The Cards are in. Just depends on how far they have to travel. Maybe Middlebury???  Methinks that Curle and Co. could come out of that region unscathed!!!!   BTW....Is Perez done for the year??

I hope that Cortland put in a bid to be a host school (request was due weeks ago). Thier location makes them a natural for a ton of schools!

2 'Yac schools in the Sweet 16?? Defintly doable!!!!!!! ;)

Don't be jinxin my Cards. Nothing is certain until the selection show is over. There are a lot of teams there are similar in records, SOS, and vRRteams. At this stage you never know what can happen. I won't breathe easy until I hear our name called.

Quote from: jdex on February 25, 2013, 11:42:55 AM

All-Tourney Team: MVP J. Smith (Cort). H. Hefele (Cort), J. Winter (Cort), J. Moody (Plat), R. Williams (Plat), G. Lyons (Gen)

And for our money Smith reigns over the All-Conference. In fact, Bear's selections fit our thinking nicely. Simmons a great story, great career ........but the Bengals, yes, shorthanded, missed the playoffs for pete's sake.

I expect that Smith will win POY as the spoils usually go to the winners. I said my selections won't be the ones that the SUNYAC will put out there but are my choices. Still think Simmons was the best based on everything that he did on the court. Jeremy had a better supporting cast, and there were too many options to concentrate on when the Red Dragons had the ball. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 25, 2013, 01:01:52 PM
Thanks, dex.  I just think Smith stepped up and took the Dragons to a level they haven't seen in quite some time. 

They have their work cut out for them being slotted into the bottom half of the "bracket of death".
Rochester and Middlebury will be formidable obstacles on the road to Salem and beyond.

Best of luck to an excellent Red Dragon squad.


My experience has been that you can rarely understand some of the the SUNYAC postseason awards. 

I still remember the two years that Potsdam won the national championships (31-2 and 32-0) that coaches from other teams were named SUNYAC coach of the year.  Welsh was national coach of the year, but didn't get picked in his own conference.

Coach Welsh was finally named SUNYAC coach of the year after his teams ran off a woodenesque 60 wins in a row.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2013, 03:31:35 PM

Plattsburgh State gets a bid and also gets to host a 1st round game as they face the Husson Eagles from the North Atlantic Conference.
Husson won the automatic bid after finishing 2nd in the conference during the regular season. and will enter the tournament with a 20-8 overall record.

Plattsburgh State played Husson back in November of 2009 when they came to Plattsburgh and played in the Cardinal Classic. The Cards won a hard fought 72-70 victory that day. I believe it's the only time the 2 schools have met.

Husson won their tournament by defeating Castleton State in the championship game. Plattsburgh scrimmaged Castleton State back in November and we beat them by a fairly comfortable margin. Husson always plays well though and I would expect them to give us a tough game. They lost to Keene State 90-78 in their season opener and we beat Keene St. 70-64 in December. Husson played #6 WPI real tough back on Decmber 1st only losing to them 89-85. They followed that great outing by losing to Maine Maritime 53-51 that for a time Massey had listed as the biggest upset in D3. So it looks like this team has been in a feast or famine situation on a couple of occasions.




Cortland State also will host a first round game as they take on the  Elms College Blazers who won the automatic bid from the New England Collegiate Conference. Elms will enter the tournament with an overall 18-9 record. Cortland comes in as the SUNYAC regular season and Tournament Champs and brings an impressive 23-4 record into the Big Dance.




Ithaca College will travel to Springfield Mass. to take on the Springfield Pride who lost the automatic bid to WPI in the NEWMAC conference championship in overtime 79-72. Springfield finished in 3rd place in the regular season behind WPI and MIT. They will enter the tournement with an overall 19-8 record. Ithaca will enter as the Empire 8 Champions with a record of 19-8. Apparently Ithaca couldn't host an NCAA game because of renovations to the gym. Too bad for the Bombers, but they have a decent chance to advance to the next round.



Stevens will host a game at a neutral site (D3 hoops says it might be at Lehman College in New York City) as they take on the winners of the ODAC tournament and the automatic bid, the Randolph-Macon Yellow Jackets. It's been quite an up and down year for Randy-Mac who started the year ranked in the preseason poll only to lose their first 3 games of the year and were still only 8-8 on Jan. 16th. They won 11 of their last 12 and upset Virginia Wesleyan in the finals yesterday to clinch a trip to the dance that they might not otherwise have gotten. Their record stands at 19-9. Stevens will have their hands full with the Yellow Jackets. The Ducks will enter the tournament with an at large bid after losing in the championship game of the E8 tournament to Ithaca. Their overall record is 22-5.



Hobart doesn't get much of a break as they are forced to travel to Rhode Island to take on the Anchormen who are the regular season and tournament champions from the Little East Conference. They will enter the tournament with an overall 25-3 record and will be a tough matchup for the Statesmen. Hobart comes in as the Liberty League Champs with a 21-6 record but I  think they will have trouble getting by the Anchormen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on February 25, 2013, 09:04:23 PM
I give props to the Cardinals and there coach about how a winning formula develops.  In return I get a comment about giving away free stuff like a vendor at a flea market.  Whats up with that!

If the cards fall then maybe I'll see a Purchase Plattsburgh game down the road. 

PS maybe the Purchase coach is giving away free stuff from his trunk because he has made the tournament 3 out of 4 years at a little SUNY arts school or maybe its another winning formula.  Successful local high school coach take over a down and out program.  Then recruits kids that want to win and be successful(see trophy case at Maxcy Hall).  In any case let the games begin.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2013, 02:57:20 PM
The SUNYAC has released the All Conference Teams and Individual Awards.   Congratulations to all the players and Coach Spanbauer on receiving their awards. 

Player of the Year:       Hayden Ward Oswego State

Rookie of the Year:      Deveino McRae  New Paltz State

Coach of the Year:       Tom Spanbauer   Cortland State



SUNYAC All Conference First Team

Jon Ivy                   Brockport          Guard         Jr.
Jake Simmons         Buffalo State     Guard         Sr.
Jesse Winter            Cortland State   Guard         Sr.
Hayden Ward           Oswego State    Forward      Sr.
Matt Devine             New Paltz State Forward       Sr.

SUNYAC All Conference Second Team

Jeremy Smith          Cortland State     Guard        Sr.
Gordon Lyons          Geneseo State     Forward     So.
Shareef Taylor         New Paltz State    G/F            Sr.
John Perez              Plattsburgh State  Forward      Sr.
Chris Manning         Plattsburgh State  Guard         Jr.


SUNYAC All Conference Third Team

Kevin McMahon        Cortland State       Forward     Jr.
Ryan Riefenhauser    Geneseo State       Forward     Sr.
Sean Michele            Oswego State        Guard        Sr.
Cyrtis Pierce             Potsdam State       Forward     Sr.
Zach Mager              Oneonta State       Forward      So.   

Here's the link to the YAC website:   http://www.sunyac.com/news/2013/2/26/GEN_0226131728.aspx       

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
This story made me cry!

http://www.wgrz.com/rss/article/202771/37/Rising-Son-The-Story-of-Jake-Simmons

The NBC affliate in Buffalo did a special show on the life of Jake Simmons. The most heartfelt story that I've seen about a Div 3 college ball player...EVER!!!

He didn't make POY (Congrats to Hayden Ward)..In my opinion he should be the Div 3 POY. Or at the very least D3 All American.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2013, 05:52:04 PM
While congrats go out to every member of the SUNYAC all conference team "Congrats" I can't but wonder how a player with a season of work that included being...

The 4th leading scorer in the SUNYAC

while also being....

14th in the SUNYAC in FG%                  and
8th in the SUNYAC in Free Throw %     and
9th in the SUNYAC in 3 pt fg%              and
6th in the SUNYAC in 3 pt fg made       and
14th in the SUNYAC in assists              and
11th in the SUNYAC in Blocked Shots   and
2nd in the SUNYAC in Steals                 and
2nd in the SUNYAC in minutes played   and....

that DOESNT EVEN WARRANT A 3RD TEAM PLACEMENT ON THE SUNYAC TEAMS???? ??? ??? ???

Only 1 SUNYAC player was ranked in the top 14 in all but 2 of the categories that SUNYAC tracks from Nov 15th till the playoffs. And he doesn't get  at least an "attaboy" from the SUNYAC??  No other player placed in the top 14 in more than 7 categories (those  players would be Simmons, Winter, Taylor and Pierce).

Heck, for arguments sake...what if we assigned a value for the top 15 ranked players in each category? 1-15  rankings i.e.  leading scorer in the conference  #1 in Yac would get 15 pts, #2 leading scorer get 14 points...on down to the 15th leading scorer which would get 1 pt. That would give someone like Brockport's John Ivy 35 points by virtue of being 3rd in scoring (13 pts)- 8th in FG % (8 pts) -  9th in Free Throw % (7pts) and 9th in steals (7 points) for a total of 35 pts. Using this formula Jake Simmons would be #1 in SUNYAC  with 88 points.  Scoring 1st (15pts), FG% 10th (6 pts), FT% 3rd (13pts) , 3PT% 3rd (13 pts), 3pt made 1st (15 pts), steals 5th (11 pts) and mins played 1st (15 pts)= 88 pts

The player who did not make any SUNYAC team has a total of 76 points - 2nd only to (MY POY Candidate) Jake Simmons.
FYI
1st team points were IVY (35), Devine (67), Ward (32), Winter (70) and Simmons (88).
2nd team - Smith (55), Lyons (14), Taylor (47), Manning (45) and Perez (13).
3rd team  - McMahon (29), Reifenhauser (10), Michele (23), Pierce (62) and Mager (42)

   I realize statistics don't tell the whole story. Playoffs are important (Extremely important) although it's not mandatory that your team makes the playoffs for your players to be honored by the "Yac. With that kind of logic then a BENGAL victory over Brockport  on Feb 15th was all thats needed for a BENGAL who had "arguarbly" (sic) 1 of the best seasons statically that this conference has ever seen (from a sophomore nonetheless) to be recognized for post season honors.

  There is something wrong with a body of work that has stretched from Nov 15 till Feb 16th and that body is unmatched by any other player in your conference (other than you own teammate) and you dont get squat!! >:(  I guarantee that you can't go through the SUNYAC record books and find a player who ranked in the top 15, in more categories, than any other player in the conference and didnt get at least an honorable mention. And please spare me the stories of "Sweet Joe Givens" from the class of 1963!! :P

  Please note that I have not said anything derogatory about any of those players who were honored. Thats not the BENGAL way. I only hope that Rod Epps won't let this snub get him down. That it will only make him stronger for the upcoming season. He deserved some type of mention...I just dont get this 1!! :-\

GO BENGALS

and

RED DRAGONS

and

CARDINALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Bengalsrule,

I have to agree with you it was very strange not to see Rod Epps name somewhere on the All Conference honor roll.  Both thebear and I had him placed on our teams and as you mention he was too prominent in too many categories to be left off completely. Very strange indeed.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: DMJSports on February 26, 2013, 06:34:39 PM
Here is an interesting look at how individuals impact a team's performance.  The following analysis is not based on individual stats, but compares team performance with individual players in and out of the lineup.  This is an objective analysis using actual data from every game played by State University of New York Athletic Conference teams this season.  Based on this comprehensive analysis, the following players are making the most positive impact on their respective team:

Brockport State: JOHN IVY does a nice job of not only improving Brockport State's scoring rate by 18.8ppg but also reducing opponent scoring rate by 4.2ppg - a net gain of 23.0ppg.   MATT LEE (17.9ppg), DEREK KLEIN (7.7ppg) and BRANDON CARUTHERS (6.1ppg) also make a strong positive impact.

Buffalo State: RODERICK EPPS speeds up the game and therefore improves Buffalo State's scoring rate by 12.5ppg but also allows opponent scoring rate to increase by 4.4ppg - a net gain of 8.1ppg. 

Cortland State: JESSE WINTER speeds up the game and therefore improves Cortland State's scoring rate by 13.9ppg but also allows opponent scoring rate to increase by 1.7ppg - a net gain of 12.1ppg.   HARRISON HEFELE (10.4ppg), LAMARD HERRON (5.6ppg) and JEREMY SMITH (3.3ppg) also make a strong positive impact.

Fredonia State: JOE MONAHAN does a nice job of not only improving Fredonia State's scoring rate by 1.5ppg but also reducing opponent scoring rate by 12.0ppg - a net gain of 13.5ppg.   MATT DEBOY (9.5ppg), ROBERT LYLES (8.4ppg), AMIR BILLUPS (7.2ppg) and TYRONE CLARK (4.3ppg) also make a positive impact.

Geneseo State: RYAN RIEFENHAUSER does a nice job of not only improving Geneseo State's scoring rate by 0.1ppg but also reducing opponent scoring rate by 16.4ppg - a net gain of 16.5ppg.   THOMAS DECKER (13.9ppg) and GORDON LYONS (4.6ppg) also make a positive impact.

New Paltz State: KEVIN ROACH slows down the game and actually reduces New Paltz State's scoring rate by 2.5ppg but also reduces opponent scoring rate by 8.0ppg - a net gain of 5.5ppg.   TAYLOR SOWAH (5.2ppg), ANDREW JOSEPH (4.8ppg) and SHEREEF TAYLOR (1.2ppg) also make a strong positive impact.

Oneonta State: DAN LEE does a nice job of not only improving Oneonta State's scoring rate by 5.6ppg but also reducing opponent scoring rate by 1.0ppg - a net gain of 6.6ppg.  ZACH MAGER (3.2ppg) and JACKSON ZUVIC (1.4ppg) also make a positive impact.

Oswego State: CHRIS GILKES does a nice job of not only improving Oswego State's scoring rate by 2.5ppg but also reducing opponent scoring rate by 5.7ppg - a net gain of 8.2ppg.   SEAN MICHELE (7.3ppg), KYLE COVLEY (5.7ppg), ELIJIAH MCLAURIN (3.5ppg) and HAYDEN WARD (1.6ppg) also make a positive impact.

Plattsburgh State: CHRIS MANNING speeds up the game and therefore improves Plattsburgh State's scoring rate by 18.2ppg but also allows opponent scoring rate to increase by 1.4ppg - a net gain of 16.7ppg.   REGGIE WILLIAMS (7.5ppg), JOHN PEREZ (6.6ppg), SHAMOY MCINTOSH (6.2ppg) and EZRA HODGSON (5.9ppg) also make a strong positive impact.

Potsdam State: CURTIS PIERCE speeds up the game and therefore improves Potsdam State's scoring rate by 10.4ppg but also allows opponent scoring rate to increase by 4.0ppg - a net gain of 6.4ppg.   JR MARK LAKE (6.2ppg) also makes a strong positive impact.


On the lighter side, focusing on secondary goals (team stats other than the primary objective - outscoring opponents).  Following are players making the most positive impact in these areas:

Team scoring: having JOHN IVY on the floor correlates to Brockport State increasing its scoring rate by 18.8 ppg compared to when IVY is on the bench.  CHRIS MANNING-Plattsburgh State (18.2) also makes a strong positive impact.

Opponent scoring: having RYAN RIEFENHAUSER on the floor correlates to Geneseo State decreasing opposition scoring rate by 16.4 ppg compared to when RIEFENHAUSER is on the bench.  SEAN MICHELE-Oswego State (15.2) also makes a strong positive impact.

Team field goal percentage: having CHRIS MANNING on the floor correlates to Plattsburgh State increasing its field goal percentage rate by 7.7 percentage points compared to when MANNING is on the bench.  JESSE WINTER-Cortland State (7.4), JOHN IVY-Brockport State (7.2) also make a strong positive impact.

Opponent field goal percentage: having JAMES MCKENNA on the floor correlates to Geneseo State decreasing opposition field goal percentage rate by 5.1 percentage points compared to when MCKENNA is on the bench.  REGGIE WILLIAMS-Plattsburgh State (5.0) also makes a strong positive impact.

Team made field goals: having CHRIS MANNING on the floor correlates to Plattsburgh State increasing its made field goals rate by 8.6 per game compared to when MANNING is on the bench.

Opponent made field goals: having JAMES MCKENNA on the floor correlates to Geneseo State decreasing opposition made field goals rate by 4.4 per game compared to when MCKENNA is on the bench.

Team offensive rebounds: having JOHN PEREZ on the floor correlates to Plattsburgh State increasing its offensive rebounds rate by 4.8 per game compared to when PEREZ is on the bench.

Opponent offensive rebounds: having ZACH MAGER on the floor correlates to Oneonta State decreasing opposition offensive rebounds rate by 4.3 per game compared to when MAGER is on the bench.

Team turnovers: having AMIR BILLUPS on the floor correlates to Fredonia State decreasing its turnovers rate by 3.6 per game compared to when BILLUPS is on the bench.  DAN LEE-Oneonta State (3.5) also makes a strong positive impact.

Opponent turnovers: having JORDAN MOODY on the floor correlates to Plattsburgh State increasing opposition turnovers rate by 8.0 per game compared to when MOODY is on the bench.

Team steals: having CHRIS MANNING on the floor correlates to Plattsburgh State increasing its steals rate by 6.5 per game compared to when MANNING is on the bench.  JORDAN MOODY-Plattsburgh State (6.2) also makes a strong positive impact.

Team assists: having CHRIS MANNING on the floor correlates to Plattsburgh State increasing its assists rate by 6.5 per game compared to when MANNING is on the bench.

Team defensive rebounds: having KYLE COVLEY on the floor correlates to Oswego State increasing its defensive rebounds rate by 3.6 per game compared to when COVLEY is on the bench.  ZACH MAGER-Oneonta State (3.5) also makes a strong positive impact.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2013, 06:46:55 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
This story made me cry!

http://www.wgrz.com/rss/article/202771/37/Rising-Son-The-Story-of-Jake-Simmons

The NBC affliate in Buffalo did a special show on the life of Jake Simmons. The most heartfelt story that I've seen about a Div 3 college ball player...EVER!!!

He didn't make POY (Congrats to Hayden Ward)..In my opinion he should be the Div 3 POY. Or at the very least D3 All American.

Bengalsrule,

Thanks for sharing this story. I'm wiping the tear's from my eyes even as I type this. Knowing Jake's story from the past articles that have appeared in the news didn't make it any easier to view this story and not feel what an amazing person this young man is.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 26, 2013, 07:42:09 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2013, 03:57:53 PM
This story made me cry!

http://www.wgrz.com/rss/article/202771/37/Rising-Son-The-Story-of-Jake-Simmons

The NBC affliate in Buffalo did a special show on the life of Jake Simmons. The most heartfelt story that I've seen about a Div 3 college ball player...EVER!!!

He didn't make POY (Congrats to Hayden Ward)..In my opinion he should be the Div 3 POY. Or at the very least D3 All American.
Thanks Bengalsrule.  Transcends sport.  Amazing young man.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 26, 2013, 08:12:25 PM
Bengals,

I feel your pain, but Manning was such a classic pass first point guard, and disruptor on defense that he was going to get the nod as the linchpin of an NCAA team.  Same story for Jeremy Smith

Rod's 3pt % hurt him, and Sean Michele's reputation as a setup man over the last four years worked in his favor.

Magic is right, 'yac with 10 teams needs 3 + hon mention.

By my consolidated stat total, top regulars in order were based on all stats/40 minutes were:

LYONS   Gordon F
MANNING,   Chris G
IVY   John G
TAYLOR,   Shereef Swing
Ward   Hayden F
PEREZ,   John F
MAGER,   Zach G
Pierce   Curtis Swing
McMAHON, Kevin F
RIEFENHAUSER, Ryan F
SIMMONS   Jake G
DEVINE,   Matt F
WINTER   Jesse G
FEDGE   Connor G
EPPS   Rod G
Gilkes   Chris Swing
SMITH   Jeremy G
McINTOSH, Shamoy G
MOODY, Jordan G
Michele   Sean G


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2013, 06:33:50 AM
Went to the Plattsburgh State practice tonight and ran into injured All Conference Player John Perez. He showed me xrays of his broken fibula and the large number of screws that were inserted into the bones to screw the pieces back together. Really feel bad that John has been relegated to being a cheerleader for the team rather than getting his chance in his 3rd year of the program to finally play in an NCAA game. He'll be back next year better than ever and all the Cards will be back next year and hopefully it will be the year of the Cardinal as this was the year of the Dragon. Plattsburgh getting excited about the big game this weekend. Hopefully we can get the W and then prepare for the Amherst Lord Jeffs. Going to be tough to take on the #2 team in the country in their house without our best player but I know the Cards won't quit and they certainly won't get outhustled. First things first though, and that's Husson University and taking care of the business at hand.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 28, 2013, 08:46:05 PM
Hey Magic - it depends on how deep the Cards go into the dance as to whose year it is!!   Right now there are 62 teams at 0 and 0! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2013, 03:39:15 PM
Plattsbrugh State will take on Husson University at 7:00 PM tonight.

Live video is available. Here's the link :http://www.nsnsports.net/plattsburgh

Live stats are also available. here's the link:  http://www.sidearmstats.com/plattsburgh/mbball/scoreboard.aspx

I think the Cardinals will pull out a win tonight against the Eagles as Husson also likes to play an up tempo type of game. They actually average more ppg than Plattsburgh does as they score 78.6 ppg and give up 70.8 ppg. The Cards are averaging 75.4 ppg and giving up 70.3 per contest. I expect a high scoring game but think the Cards will come away with an 83-75 win in this one to advance to the next round. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 02, 2013, 04:53:47 PM

Cortland by 38-33 at intermission over Elms. Led by 11 with 6:06 left. Corts okay when J. White, J. Smith and B. Manning the principal characters. Offense a bit stale otherwise. Dragons shooting 13x30 and 5x14 3s. Winter 14 pts(4x5fg, 2x2 3s), Smith 8 pts. Elms relies bigtime on backcourter A. French. Has 13 pts from distances. D. McDaniel 11 pts. Elms 11x32fg, 5x12 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2013, 05:07:09 PM
Had to run up to Plattsburgh State and buy my ticket for the game tonight. You couldn't buy a ticket for the game all week long as they didn't go on sale until 5:00 PM this afternoon for the game which starts at 7 PM. I was the first one in line but it looks like they're going fast as a big crowd had formed.

Didn't realize that the Cortland game started early. I was going to come back and predict the Red Dragons would win this one and I thought the score might be something like 79-66. I think the Red Dragons have too much firepower for the Blazers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 02, 2013, 05:18:12 PM

Cortland 63, Elms 43 with 10:41 to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 02, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Looks like the Red Dragons are  heading to Middlebury!!  Congrats!! :)

Hopefully the Cardinals can make it 2 for 2 for the "Yac tonite. Glad to see Magicman back in full health. I couldn't perussis, bronchitis, or any "Itis" stopping the Magic 1 from being in attendance tonite!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2013, 05:38:52 PM
Big win for Cortland 85-59 over Elms.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 02, 2013, 05:59:52 PM

Cortland takes charge over the final 20 minutes, as has been its M.O. aplenty this season. Quickly expand on 38-33 halftime lead and cruise. L. Herron supplies big pickup and winds up with 20 pts on 8x10 shooting from the field, 2x3 3s and 7 rebounds. Corts click at 50 percent shooting overall, make 12x27 3s, 21x25 free throws with a mere 8 turnovers. J. Winter with 19 pts(5x9fg, 3x6 3s), 5 assts, 3 rebs; J. Smith 15 pts(4x9fg, 3x6 3s), 5 rebs; K. McMahon 11 pts, 7 rebs; B. Manning 8 pts(3x7fg, 2x5 3s), 5 rebs. Elms 23x65fg, 6x20 3s, 7x12fts, 11 TOvers. A. French 16 pts(6x17fg, 3x9 3s); K. Lockett 16 pts(7x11fg); D. McDaniel 13 pts, 8 rebs. Blazers conclude 18-10 campaign.

RDragons move on, probably against Middlebury and no doubt on the road. Cortland 13-0 at 'The Pete.' Going to defer to F. Elia on the best home floor records for C-St. Know the crack '99-00 outfit won its first 13 as hosts, then fell in the nat'l tourney at home. We recall (maybe) that during Coach Span's senior playing season of '82-83 the Corey slate may have been clean. Am sure Fran can fill in the blanks when time permits ...........a busy, busy man this weekend -- big gymnastics meet in Corey, No. 1 ranked laxmen win big, and baseball sweeps at Myrtle Beach, etc, etc.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2013, 09:10:46 PM
Plattsburgh State makes it 2 for 2 for the SUNYAC as they defeat Husson University 84-63. I predicted an 83-75 Cardinal win and I just missed with the Cards total. Husson wasn't as effective from the field as they only hit 21of 57 for a 36.8% rate which left them a little short of what I thought they might score. Happy that my Cards moved on but their next opponent will be #2 Amherst and the Cards will need all the magic the magicman can whip up if we hope to get a W in that game.

Plattsburgh State grabbed the early lead in this game and opened up a 17-8 lead after the first 8 minutes of play. They graduallly extended the margin until they led by 12 at 27-15 and again at 29 -17 with 7 minutes to play in the half. Husson would cut into that lead and had it down to a 31-25 score but the Cards ended the half on a 10-0 run that was fueled by a 3 point jumper and a 2 point jumper by Shamoy McIntosh followed by another 3 pointer by Kalik Parker and a 2 point putback by Gary Tibbs to go into the locker room up 41-25.

The Cards saw the Eagles cut into the lead once again at the start of the 2nd half and get it back to single digits at 46-37 with 4:30 gone in the period. Each time however the Cardinals would respond with another burst of their own. Back to back Reggie Williams buckets were followed by another McIntosh jumper and an Ezra Hodgson 3 pointer and layup to build it back to a 57-40 advantage with 12:57 left to play. Another Parker 3 pointer shortly after gave the Cards their largest lead to that point of 63-44 with 10 minutes remaining. Husson made one final push to make it a game as they scored 9 straight points to cut it to a 63-53 lead but a 12-6 Plattsburgh spurt pushed the lead back to 16 with 4 minutes left and it was clear that the Cardinals would not be denied on this night.

Once again the Cardinals' depth was the difference maker as 6 players had double figures. Ezra Hodson was the game's high scorer with 15 points going 6x7 from the field and 3x3 from behind the arc. He also added 4 rebounds. Jordan Moody just kept getting to the rim with spectacular drives and a variety of spin moves that left him with 13 points and 6 rebounds. Chris Manning, the nation's leader in steals, showed why as he got 4 more thefts tonight. He also showed why he is nationally ranked in the assist category as he had 7 great feeds to go along with his 11 points (4x5 fg,1x1 3's, 2x6 ft) and team leading 7 rebounds. Shamoy McIntosh also had 11 points on 4x6 shooting from the field (1x1 3's, 2x3 ft). Shamoy had 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks, and 3 steals as well. Reggie Williams continued his stellar play as a starter since John Perez was injured as the big guy once again hit for 10 points on 5x8 from the field. he grabbed 3 rebounds and had a block, an asssist and a steal but was only able to play 13 minutes due to foul trouble while guarding the Eagles 6'10" Marc Zaharchuk. Kalik Parker came off the bench and hit 3x6 from downtown to score 10 points, along with 4 rebounds. Alan Siergiej who doesn't see a lot of court time came in because of the foul trouble to the Card's other bigs and gave Plattsburgh 5 or 6 great minutes where he scored 4 points and kept the ball in play on the offensive end. He did some things that don't show up in the box score but were instrumental in Plattsburgh maintaining a solid lead near the end of the first period. Nice to see in a game of this importance.

The Cardinals shot 32x58 from the field (55.2%) . They were 9x19 from long range (47.4%) and 11x22 from the line (50%). They outrebounded the Eagles 39-35 and had 17 turnovers to 18 for the Eagles.

Husson was led by Eric Modica with 13 points (4x10 fg, 1x2 3's, 4x5 ft). Marc Zaharchuk had 12 points (5x14 fg, 0x1 3's, 2x6 ft) and 7 rebounds. Wes Murphy had 11 points (4x11 fg, 2x8 3's, 1x2 ft). The Eagles didn't shoot well as I mentioned, only hitting 21x57 from the field. They were only 4x18 from behind the arc (22.2%) and 17x26 from the line. Husson ends their season with a 20-9 record.

I must comment on the officiating crew that was brought in for tonight's game. They were 3 pretty bad referees. I'm told that 2 might have come from the Buffalo area and 1 from Syracuse, but they need to learn the difference between a block and a charge as they made the wrong call on at least 6 different occasions. They were equally bad for both teams but the poor coaches were clearly getting frustrated at having to watch one blown call after another. At one point the fans were booing the officials as loudly as I've ever heard in a game. I watched several high school games last night in our local sectionals and the 6 guys that reffed those 2 games were superior to the college officials that the NCAA brought in for this game by a long shot. I won't post their names here but you can find their names in the box score. Hope that you never see them at one of your games.

Plattsburgh improves to 20-8 on the season. Quite a turnaround from the 8-18 record this team posted last year.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 02, 2013, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 02, 2013, 05:59:52 PM

We recall (maybe) that during Coach Span's senior playing season of '82-83 the Corey slate may have been clean.

Congrats to Dragons, nice to see 2 'yacs in round of 32, albeit with tough draws at the next level.

I'll check the books, but in '82-83 Bears won the 'yac title, and the East Regionals, then lost by a point at eventual champion Scranton in the Elite 8.  Fine squad with folks like Leroy Witherspoon, (2 x DIII Player of the Year), Pony Bullock etc.  Perhaps dragons beat bears at the "Pete", but lost at least two possibly  three other matches (@Potsdam, SUNYACS, possibly REGIONALS).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 02, 2013, 11:50:50 PM
FYI - Don't be surprised if Middlebury comes to Cortland - Middlebury was #5 in the regional rankings, or there abouts... Cortland was #2. However, the committee does look at all the numbers as well... so we shall see.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 03, 2013, 12:18:28 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 02, 2013, 11:50:50 PM
FYI - Don't be surprised if Middlebury comes to Cortland - Middlebury was #5 in the regional rankings, or there abouts... Cortland was #2. However, the committee does look at all the numbers as well... so we shall see.

That would be great D'Mac. Hopefully Cortland and Plattsburgh keep winning. They wouldn't have to face each other until March 23rd...the Semi's!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2013, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: thebear on March 02, 2013, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 02, 2013, 05:59:52 PM

We recall (maybe) that during Coach Span's senior playing season of '82-83 the Corey slate may have been clean.

Congrats to Dragons, nice to see 2 'yacs in round of 32, albeit with tough draws at the next level.

I'll check the books, but in '82-83 Bears won the 'yac title, and the East Regionals, then lost by a point at eventual champion Scranton in the Elite 8.  Fine squad with folks like Leroy Witherspoon, (2 x DIII Player of the Year), Pony Bullock etc.  Perhaps dragons beat bears at the "Pete", but lost at least two possibly  three other matches (@Potsdam, SUNYACS, possibly REGIONALS).

During the 1982-83  season when Coach Spanbauer was a senior, Cortland was a perfect 11-0 at home. They beat the Bears in Cortland that year 72-66. Their closest home games were a 92-91 win over Ithaca, a 70-68 win over Plattsburgh, a 96-93 win over SUNY Buffalo, a 79-75 win over Albany, and a 77-73 win over Oneonta. Their other home victories were wins over Elmira, Binghamton, Brockport, Rochester, and Binghamton a 2nd time. They ended the year with a 15-7 overall record as they were 4-7 on the road.

Incidentally Coach Spanbauer scored 405 points that year to lead the team and had an 18.4 ppg scoring average. He was 161x274 from the field (60.9%) and 83x95 from the line (87.3%). Not too shabby!!! 8-) I guess now we know why Cortland still has all those sharpshooters. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2013, 12:32:44 AM
A tip of the hat to Jeremy Smith from Cortland who is on my Fantasy team in the D3 hoops NCAA Tournament Fantasy League. Jeremy had 25 fantasy points for my team tonight.

Chris Manning also gets a shout out as he is on Mrs. Magicman's Fantasy team. Chris had 22 fantasy points tonight
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 03, 2013, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: thebear on March 02, 2013, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 02, 2013, 05:59:52 PM

We recall (maybe) that during Coach Span's senior playing season of '82-83 the Corey slate may have been clean.

Congrats to Dragons, nice to see 2 'yacs in round of 32, albeit with tough draws at the next level.

I'll check the books, but in '82-83 Bears won the 'yac title, and the East Regionals, then lost by a point at eventual champion Scranton in the Elite 8.  Fine squad with folks like Leroy Witherspoon, (2 x DIII Player of the Year), Pony Bullock etc.  Perhaps dragons beat bears at the "Pete", but lost at least two possibly  three other matches (@Potsdam, SUNYACS, possibly REGIONALS).

During the 1982-83  season when Coach Spanbauer was a senior, Cortland was a perfect 11-0 at home. They beat the Bears in Cortland that year 72-66. Their closest home games were a 92-91 win over Ithaca, a 70-68 win over Plattsburgh, a 96-93 win over SUNY Buffalo, a 79-75 win over Albany, and a 77-73 win over Oneonta. Their other home victories were wins over Elmira, Binghamton, Brockport, Rochester, and Binghamton a 2nd time. They ended the year with a 15-7 overall record as they were 4-7 on the road.

Incidentally Coach Spanbauer scored 405 points that year to lead the team and had an 18.4 ppg scoring average. He was 161x274 from the field (60.9%) and 83x95 from the line (87.3%). Not too shabby!!! 8-) I guess now we know why Cortland still has all those sharpshooters. ;D

Yesssssss!!! That's for my longterm memory. Thanks, Bear, for your quick look back. We had been meaning to do that as the current team's home streak continued. Will await Fran's check on the other recent strong CSt teams' play at home. But wouldn't that be something  -- to have Coach Span's senior-laden crew be the only OTHER home unbeaten in school history. Span was some kind of player, a gym rat and one of the fiercest competitors we have known. A lefty, he virtually made that '82-83 team what it was. And those were pre-three point days. Otherwise his figures would have been even more impressive.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: trixiep on March 03, 2013, 12:25:45 PM
Middlebury is hosting the NCAA skiing championships.  It is my understanding that they did not put in a bid to host next weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 03, 2013, 01:31:53 PM
Cortland hosting Middlebury.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2013, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 03, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 03, 2013, 12:28:39 AM
Quote from: thebear on March 02, 2013, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 02, 2013, 05:59:52 PM

We recall (maybe) that during Coach Span's senior playing season of '82-83 the Corey slate may have been clean.

Congrats to Dragons, nice to see 2 'yacs in round of 32, albeit with tough draws at the next level.

I'll check the books, but in '82-83 Bears won the 'yac title, and the East Regionals, then lost by a point at eventual champion Scranton in the Elite 8.  Fine squad with folks like Leroy Witherspoon, (2 x DIII Player of the Year), Pony Bullock etc.  Perhaps dragons beat bears at the "Pete", but lost at least two possibly  three other matches (@Potsdam, SUNYACS, possibly REGIONALS).

During the 1982-83  season when Coach Spanbauer was a senior, Cortland was a perfect 11-0 at home. They beat the Bears in Cortland that year 72-66. Their closest home games were a 92-91 win over Ithaca, a 70-68 win over Plattsburgh, a 96-93 win over SUNY Buffalo, a 79-75 win over Albany, and a 77-73 win over Oneonta. Their other home victories were wins over Elmira, Binghamton, Brockport, Rochester, and Binghamton a 2nd time. They ended the year with a 15-7 overall record as they were 4-7 on the road.

Incidentally Coach Spanbauer scored 405 points that year to lead the team and had an 18.4 ppg scoring average. He was 161x274 from the field (60.9%) and 83x95 from the line (87.3%). Not too shabby!!! 8-) I guess now we know why Cortland still has all those sharpshooters. ;D

Yesssssss!!! That's for my longterm memory. Thanks, Bear, for your quick look back. We had been meaning to do that as the current team's home streak continued. Will await Fran's check on the other recent strong CSt teams' play at home. But wouldn't that be something  -- to have Coach Span's senior-laden crew be the only OTHER home unbeaten in school history. Span was some kind of player, a gym rat and one of the fiercest competitors we have known. A lefty, he virtually made that '82-83 team what it was. And those were pre-three point days. Otherwise his figures would have been even more impressive.

I guess I'm chopped liver??  I tell you I don't get no respect, no respect at all. 

It appears your longterm memory is still pretty good! 8-)   I'm kinda wondering about that short term part though!! ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2013, 02:57:16 PM
As Dave McHugh has told us Cortland gets to host the game against Middlebury. Rochester has also been chosen to host against Ithaca, which was no surprise since the Ithaca gym is undergoing renovations.

East region teams went 5-1 in the tournament yesterday with only Hobart losing in overtime to Rhode Island.

Next Saturday's schedule

Plattsburgh State @ Amherst      Time TBA

Middlebury @  Cortland State      Tme TBA

Ithaca @ Rochester                      Time TBA

Morrisville State @ Rhode Island    7:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2013, 02:58:44 PM
OMG!!! No, no and no .....never we say. You north country guys deserve better, and you're obviously joined at the hip. Bear first jumped on my query and upon my morning perusal of the board we came across a response. Lets see .....thebear .....magicman ......never gave it a thought. Magic, accept our mea culpas. Your homework appreciated! Also remember Jeff VanGundy of Bport an all-conference performer in '82-83.

Getting No. 14 a tall order, but nonetheless AT 'THE PETE.' Also believe Cortland begins its spring break next weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2013, 03:29:09 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 03, 2013, 02:58:44 PM
OMG!!! No, no and no .....never we say. You north country guys deserve better, and you're obviously joined at the hip. Bear first jumped on my query and upon my morning perusal of the board we came across a response. Lets see .....thebear .....magicman ......never gave it a thought. Magic, accept our mea culpas. Your homework appreciated! Also remember Jeff VanGundy of Bport an all-conference performer in '82-83.

Getting No. 14 a tall order, but nonetheless AT 'THE PETE.' Also believe Cortland begins its spring break next weekend.

All is forgiven my friend, but I couldn'r resist. And of course I know how easy it was to think that  the bear was the one with the reponse to your question. 

FYI your long term memory was right as well, concerning the 99-00 Cortland team. They were 13-0 at home but losing their finale in the tournament to Penn State-Behrend 58-52.

And finally I'll go on record early on this one and predict that Cortland will beat Middlebury 78-73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
Well I got my wish about this weekend's games. They are going to be starting at 2 different times so for all those that are interested you'll be able to see both games.

Middlebury at Cortland State   Saturday afternoon at 3:00 PM      Hopefully their will be a video feed for this game.  Help me Fran!


Plattsburgh State at Amherst   Saturday evening  at 7:00 PM       Pretty sure Amherst will have a video feed for this game

Edit:  Fran Elia has confirmed to me that there will be a video broadcast of the Cortland-Middlebury game on Saturday. Thanks Fran. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2013, 08:31:14 PM
Magic, Having watched my bears play there in '05, be not impressed with Lefrak.  Certainly not to the standards of Maxcy or "The Pete".

You will love the platform stands at the far end that get the capacity up to NCAA standards. Otherwise, Memorial Hall looks like Rupp Arena.  The lighting leaves much to be desired.

At least this time, you will still have Amherst Students on Campus, in '05, they were on break, Amherst and Fisher (top two seeds) lost the first night, Saturday night twas ugly to be sure. 

Unfortunately you will undoubtedly have Western mass refs, who like gentlemanly play, and don't like banging in the paint by the defenders.  In '05 vs. Rochester, Turner and Harris had 4 fouls in 5 minutes.

Since the Cards will be giving up 5-7 inches across the front line, they will have to use quickness and street smarts to overcome the Lord Jeff's.

Hope the weather is good, we drove there in a raging Snowtorm, at least you can take a ferry & superhighway for most of the way.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2013, 08:45:19 PM
Since they're playing Amherst, I doubt they will have Western Mass refs at all. They'll have refs who haven't seen either team this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on March 04, 2013, 08:56:34 PM
Great Division 3 basketball season is winding down quickly... cant wait till next season everyone
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2013, 08:45:19 PM
Since they're playing Amherst, I doubt they will have Western Mass refs at all. They'll have refs who haven't seen either team this year.

Unfortunately in '05 that wasn't the case, Seth Hauben was a road grader, and our guys were getting called for touch fouls 20' from the hoop.

Refs were from Springfield and Pittsfield, sounds like Western mass to me.  Were assigned before Saturday's games.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2013, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 04, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2013, 08:45:19 PM
Since they're playing Amherst, I doubt they will have Western Mass refs at all. They'll have refs who haven't seen either team this year.

Unfortunately in '05 that wasn't the case, Seth Hauben was a road grader, and our guys were getting called for touch fouls 20' from the hoop.

Refs were from Springfield and Pittsfield, sounds like Western mass to me.  Were assigned before Saturday's games.

Sure. Because two New York teams advanced, Western Mass refs were able to be used. But since Amherst is playing in this game, NCAA rules say local refs should not be used.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bucket on March 04, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2013, 08:45:19 PM
Since they're playing Amherst, I doubt they will have Western Mass refs at all. They'll have refs who haven't seen either team this year.

Not necessarily true, Pat. For Midd-Curry, one of the officials was reffing his 4th consecutive Middlebury game. He had previously officiated the NESCAC semifinal vs. Williams (at Amherst), the NESCAC quarters against Wesleyan, and the triple OT game against Amherst.

Last year, we also had officials we saw often in the regular season. Perhaps a fact of reffing life in New England?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
I don't know -- I just know it's not supposed to be, and with just one game at each site this should be solvable.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2013, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2013, 05:10:17 PM
Well I got my wish about this weekend's games. They are going to be starting at 2 different times so for all those that are interested you'll be able to see both games.

Middlebury at Cortland State   Saturday afternoon at 3:00 PM      Hopefully their will be a video feed for this game.  Help me Fran!


Plattsburgh State at Amherst   Saturday evening  at 7:00 PM       Pretty sure Amherst will have a video feed for this game

Edit:  Fran Elia has confirmed to me that there will be a video broadcast of the Cortland-Middlebury game on Saturday. Thanks Fran. 8-)

NOTE: TIME CHANGE

Major change in the time of the Amherst-Plattsburgh State game. The game has been switched from a 7:00 PM start on Saturday and will now have a 4:00 PM start time. The Amherst women are also playing that weekend and are hosting a Sectional with 4 teams. The Sectional Final women's game has been scheduled for 7:30 PM Saturday evening 

Amherst has confirmed that there will be a video webcast and live stats.


So the Saturday schedule is:

Middlebury at Cortland State 3:00 PM      Video and livestats available

Plattsburgh State  at Amherst   4:00 PM    Video and livestats available
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 05, 2013, 10:01:34 PM
Once again, helps to be a "NAME" school. 

In past years if the women were hosting at a site (rotates by years) the men would have to travel.

But of course the top rated Liberal Arts College in the country (with most of their players on "academic" scholarships) gets to host.

LeFrak isn't even that good a venue, bad lighting, small sideline seating. 

Certainly isn't up to the standard of any of the better SUNYAC gyms, Maxcy, Corey, Dewar, Buff State Sports Arena, Steele Hall, Tuttle North, Hawk Center, Max Ziel.  'burgh & Geneseo have large venues but choose to play in their "wood" gyms because of injury concerns on the synthetic floors.

I hope in my increasingly short lifetime that the NCAA will get real about the financial aid fraud these NESCAC and UAA schools commit to buy low level D-I players.  When a student-athlete can go to Rochester/SLU/Amherst for less cost than a state school, as Shakespeare once said "Something is rotten in Denmark".

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2013, 10:21:48 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 05, 2013, 10:01:34 PM
Once again, helps to be a "NAME" school. 

In past years if the women were hosting at a site (rotates by years) the men would have to travel.

But of course the top rated Liberal Arts College in the country (with most of their players on "academic" scholarships) gets to host.

Also not true. The only reason this gets to happen is because of the one-year happenstance in the men's bracket that has teams playing one game a weekend instead of two. More than a couple of schools got to do the same last weekend.

In addition, the NCAA has a robust reporting mechanism in place for financial aid. There have been citations and punishments handed down. None to the NESCAC so far.

Not everything is a conspiracy.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 06, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Bear, I agree with your assessment of Division III  liberal Arts schools. Example Ithaca's roster, not one of their players is from the State of New York.  Its like a Division I roster.  All out of state players.  Go figure!  At least their assistant coach is a Potsdam Alumni.  I hope both SUNYAC schools and Morrisville make a deep run at the title in Atlanta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on March 06, 2013, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: bearnation on March 06, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Bear, I agree with your assessment of Division III  liberal Arts schools. Example Ithaca's roster, not one of their players is from the State of New York.  Its like a Division I roster.  All out of state players.  Go figure!  At least their assistant coach is a Potsdam Alumni.  I hope both SUNYAC schools and Morrisville make a deep run at the title in Atlanta.

I'm not sure what your point is?  Should Ithaca not recruit outside of NY?

And if the cost of an Amherst or U of R education with financial aid were the same as an  education from Potsdam, are you saying you'd choose Potsdam for your child?

There is no question that NESCAC and UAA schools have endowments the size of some countries, but I'm not sure how that puts them at a competitive advantage.  The kid still has to get into the school and if the cost of the education is the same, it comes down to what the school can offer educationally/professionally.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 06, 2013, 08:21:45 PM
Sorry Pat, beg to disagree.

When one of the secretaries [who happened to work in our admissions office] at the college I work at has a child who can go to SLU (~50K per year) and be a solid four year starter for less that the cost of a state school, don't tell me that games aren't being played with financial aid. 

It's been going on since the 70's at least.  We had the best D-III program in the country at Potsdam from 79-89, [275 wins, 51 losses - you can do the math ] but trust me we lost many players to the private schools because of financial aid gimmickry.

Yes, the Amhersts, Williams, Middlebury's Rochester's have endowments out the wazoo, but games are clearly being played in the financial aid offices, not to mention the opportunities these schools provide to their student athletes.

In addition can you guarantee me that the entire roster of the NESCAC and UAA [among others] are at least at the midpoint of the incoming class, I doubt it.  All of these schools have "special talent" provisions, which come into play if you are 6-8 and can play hoops.

The NESCAC, in particular and UAA are Patriot/Ivy league in D-III clothing.

P.S.  Your argument about this amherst/mens women's being a one-time event with scheduling falls on deaf ears, when a team that was 60-0 had to go on the road to play an elite 8 game. 

This entire tournament is fixed, from my perspective, and I've been involved with/following D-III basketball from the beginning.

Go Cardinals, rooting for you hard.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 06, 2013, 11:26:03 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 06, 2013, 08:21:45 PM
P.S.  Your argument about this amherst/mens women's being a one-time event with scheduling falls on deaf ears, when a team that was 60-0 had to go on the road to play an elite 8 game. 

In what year? Seriously? Surely nobody who made that decision has been involved with the process in decades. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Let go of the '80s already.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 07, 2013, 01:01:27 AM
Must admit I was "shocked" by Mo State's win over Ramapo.  All in all a tremendous week for the East.  I was perfect in the "bracket of death" on only missed Cabrini & Randolph Macon on the right side but boy did I screw my left side -seven losses but I still have 15 of 16 teams alive in my sweet 16 alive and all of my elite eight.  That being said I hope my bracket goes down the tubes because I picked with my head not my heart!  GO CARDS BOMBERS DRAGONS AND MUSTANGS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2013, 04:46:07 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 07, 2013, 01:01:27 AM
Must admit I was "shocked" by Mo State's win over Ramapo.  All in all a tremendous week for the East.  I was perfect in the "bracket of death" on only missed Cabrini & Randolph Macon on the right side but boy did I screw my left side -seven losses but I still have 15 of 16 teams alive in my sweet 16 alive and all of my elite eight.  That being said I hope my bracket goes down the tubes because I picked with my head not my heart!  GO CARDS BOMBERS DRAGONS AND MUSTANGS!!!

The East ended up with the best record of any region (tied with the Mid Atlantic at 5-2).  I went 27-3 in the 1st round and I'm tied for 1st place. But this next round could be a killer. Easy to go from 1st to 150th with all the close matchups that are taking place. This really is a wide open tournament I think. 

GO CARDS

GO BOMBERS

GO RED DRAGONS

GO MUSTANGS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 08, 2013, 12:02:00 AM
Ditto
Go BOMBERS

Go MUSTANGS

Go RED DRAGONS

Go CARDS


I LOVE NY!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on March 08, 2013, 05:47:29 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 08, 2013, 12:02:00 AM
Ditto
Go BOMBERS

Go MUSTANGS

Go RED DRAGONS

Go CARDS


I LOVE NY!!! ;)

And yet no love for Rochester?  Bummer....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on March 08, 2013, 10:04:37 AM
We're only looking at one edge of a double edged sword in the state vs. private school discussion.  How many great players can a school like Williams or RPI not recruit due to their very high admissions standard?  I've spoken with more than one NESCAC coach who, when you ask them if they're looking at a specific kid, say, "Too many B's."
Your basic point is correct, however.  If you have a super smart kid who is a good ball player from Utica and his family has no money; Amherst is a better financial deal than Cortland.  You can feel bad for Cortland but you gotta be happy for the kid.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on March 08, 2013, 11:55:18 AM
Saturdays Games
Cortland vs Middlebury... Middlebury by 4
Plattsburgh at Amherst... Amherst wins by 14
Morrisville at Rhode Island.. Rhode Island wins by 8
Ithaca at Rochester... Rochester wins by 3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 12:13:09 AM
So the ECAC released their All-Star teams in the  4 Division III Regions today.

Here is the Upstate Region:

Player of the Year John DiBartolomeo   Sr. G University of Rochester

Rookie of the Year Aldin Medunjanin Fr. G Skidmore College

First Team*

John DiBartolomeo Sr. G University of Rochester

Stefan Thompson Sr. G Hobart College

Richie Bonney Jr. G Hobart College

Hayden Ward Sr. F Oswego State

Jason Norsen Sr. C St. John Fisher College

Keven Donohue Sr. C Union College


Second Team*

Jesse Winter Sr. G SUNY Cortland

Sheldon Jones Sr. G Stevens Institute of Technology

Matt Devine Sr. F SUNY New Paltz

Rhamel Williams Sr. F Morrisville State

Connor Maisch Jr. F Utica College

* = tie in voting

Kind of hard to believe that Jake Simmons who led the SUNYAC conference in scoring with a 21.4 ppg average, scored over 2000 points in his career including 514 this year in 24 games isn't somewhere on this list. ??? :o  :( :P Nobody, I repeat, nobody on this list comes close to his career statistics. A few players might equal Jake's total if they could play a 5th year and have those points count. Hobart gets 2 players on the list and Buffalo State, who came in 7th place in the SUNYAC went to Hobart and beat them 80-74.

In the Northeast Region not a single player from Middlebury was chosen for any team. ???

In the Metro Region Ramapo College gets 3 players chosen.  That's the same Ramapo College that got beat by Morrisville State in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament. I'm surprised they didn't choose the other two starter from Ramapo as well. :o

Here's the link to the complete ECAC list: http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/winter/mbkb/AllStars/2012-13/2013MBBallstars 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Let's keep something in mind... does a school belong to the ECAC and more importantly, did they feel the need to nominate any of their players to the ECAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 12:59:15 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2013, 12:32:12 AM
Let's keep something in mind... does a school belong to the ECAC and more importantly, did they feel the need to nominate any of their players to the ECAC.

Dave,
In the last couple of years Jake Simmons has been the ECAC Upstate Player of the Week a number of times most recently on Jan 23rd, 2013  so I would say the answer to your questions is yes. I think the same applies to Middlebury.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2013, 01:13:00 AM
Maybe they missed the deadline? Just throwing out the possibilities.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 07:24:48 AM
Here are the times of todays games involving teams from the East Region:

#7 Middlebury at #23 Cortland State  3:00 PM

The Panthers and the Red Dragons are so similar it's almost like they are playing against themselves. Both rely heavily on their guard play. Both have an abundance of good long range shooters and both have an outstanding big man that can score and rebound. I'm going with Cortland because they have been so dominant at home this year. The pointspread favors Cortland by 8 points but I think that's too many. I expect this game to go down to the wire with Cortland up 76-73. Middlebury comes down and tries to tie it with a three ball that doesn't go down. Cortland rebounds, is fouled and hits 2 free throws for a final score of 78-73.

Plattsburgh State at #2 Amherst  4:00 PM

On paper this is probably regarded as one of the 2 biggest mismatches in this round. The Cardinals have been unranked all year and never even received a single vote in the D3hoops ranking. #2 Amherst has been ranked all year and has slowly but steadily rose up through the rankings to enter the tournament as one of the favorites to go home with the Walnut and Bronze. Amherst has been listed as a 10 point favorite to win this game and the Lord Jeffs are looking to win their 20th game in a row. In order for the Cardinals to have any chance to pull off the upset they will have to shoot the ball extremely well to negate the size advantage that Amherst will have on the boards. Defensively they will have to slow down a juggernaut that's been averaging almost 84 ppg. Plattsburgh will have to limit the number of turnovers they commit and utilize their depth and speed to force Amherst into more miscues than they are accustomed to. The M&M&M boys Moody, McIntosh and Manning will need to get to the rim and hopefully get to the line. The 3 point attempts will need to be good looks rather than forced and hurried attempts. The Cardinals can win this game but they need a total team effort and will need a big game from Reggie Williams. The big man needs to be a force on the offensive boards, and stay out of foul trouble in his matchup against Amherst big 6'9" Pete Kaasila. Solid pressure defense is needed with a fresh set of subs every 5 minutes to constantly attack and wear down the Amherst 8 man rotation. Our 12 man rotation will give us an edge that we need to exploit.  I expect Amerst will win this game but that won't make it fun for me to watch if I pick them to do so. Plattsburgh can win this game but we need that "perfect storm" to set things in motion for the upset. I'm taking my Cardinals to pull off the upset of the tournament here and walk out of Lefrak Gym with a well earned 77-75 victory.


Morrisville State at #13 Rhode Island College   7:00 PM

The Mustangs' matchup against Rhode Island is the other big mismatch that I was referring to in the Plattsburgh summary. The oddsmakers have made Morrisville an 8 point underdog but I'll be surprised if the Mustangs can stay that close to the Anchormen. Rhode Island is one of the best defensive teams in the country and they only give up an average of 55.8 ppg. The Mustangs had their moment of glory when they beat Ramapo in the 1st round and this time they come up on the short end of a 72-59 score. 


Ithaca at Rochester  7:00 PM

The Bombers are playing their best ball of the season and have finally gotten everyone healthy. They cruised through the E8 playoffs and handled a decent Springfield team that gave Amherst one of its 2 losses. Rochester came into the NCAA tournament losing 4 of their last 7 games after opening up 18-0. And several of those 4 losses were ugly. They also had their hands full against Fitchburg State which was one of the weakest teams in the field as they barely beat the 16-10 Falcons, 91-86. This team was 5-7 in the MASCAC conference and only made the field by pulling off 2 upsets in their tournament to get the automatic bid. The Bombers have more scoring options than Rochester and if they can keep DiBartolomeo under some semblance of control I think they will pull off the upset. The point spread has the Yellowjackets favored by 9 points but I think Ithaca will pull off the upset here 74-71.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 09, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2013, 01:13:00 AM
Maybe they missed the deadline? Just throwing out the possibilities.

One word... "SHAME". "SHAME" on the ECAC for completely ignoring Jake if he was nominated by his school or "SHAME" on Buffalo State if they missed a deadline for  nominating Jake. One way or another (and I gotta believe that Buffalo State nominated a kid who may be the most decorated 4 year basketball player in Buffalo State history). SHAME on who ever is responsible for this slight!

Nuff Said.


I Love NY !!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 03:12:50 PM
Apparently Cortland having problems with the video broadcast as it hasn't been loading. Live stats are up and running and audio with Bobby Comstock on the microphone is coming in clear.

Back and forth game in the early going Cortland leads 13- 12 with 12:33 left in the 1st half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 03:40:22 PM
Cortland falls victim to Middlebury's long range shooters as the Panthers hit 3 from long range along with a pair of free throws to open up a 36-27 lead after the score was tied at 25 with only 3:46 left to play.

Kevin McMahon leads the Red Dragons with 10 points. Jesse Winter has 6.

Joey Kizel leads Middlebury with 11 points. James Jensen has 9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 04:31:07 PM
Middlebury leads Cortland 62-60 with 1:12 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 04:43:27 PM
Middlebury leads Cortland 65-63 with 14 seconds left. Middlebury has taken 2 timeouts trying to inbound the ball under the Cortland basket.  Cortland fouls with 12 seconds left. Lynch goes to the line for the Panthers. He hits the first one and Cortland calls a time out. Lynch hits the second one to make it a 2 possession game. Red Dragons in big trouble now. Herron misses a layup and Cortland fouls again with only 4 seconds left. Lynch misses both free throws and Cortland misses a last second 3 point attempt. Final score is 67-63 Middlebury.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 05:00:33 PM

Amherst with a big 44 to 18 lead over Plattsburgh with 5 minutes left in the first half but the cardinals fight back and outscore the Lord Jeffs 19-6 from that point to close the deficit to 50-37 at the break. Plattsburgh's Kalik Parker hit a big three pointer at the buzzer to give the cards a little momentum heading into the locker room. Amherst looking like a Final Four team as they were firing on all cylinders in the first 15 minutes of the half. Allen Williamson with 12 points and Aaron Toomey with 11 lead the Lord Jeffs.

Credit the Cardinals for not folding as they have cut the lead in half and  are still in this game despite a double digit deficit at the break.
Jordan Moody and Shavar Fields lead Plattsburgh with 9 points each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 05:59:03 PM
Amherst defeats Plattsburgh State 89-72. Plattsburgh fought back from a 26 point deficit to get it to 13 at the break and actually got to within 10 early in the 2nd half, but the Lord Jeffs were just too strong as they made shot after shot every time the Cardinals would try and make a move. Amerst shot 50% from downtown, 13x26 and I needed the Cardinals to be putting up those kinds of numbers. Amherst also absolutely killed us on the boards as they had 49 rebounds to our 28. On numerous posessions they got one offensive rebound after another until they scored. Amherst was 32x65 from the field overall and 12x16 from the line.

The Cards did get them to turn the ball over considerably more than they normally do as Amherst had 19 TO's to 12 for Plattsburgh.

Amherst was led by Aaron Toomey with 25 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists. Allen Williamson had 16 points, 11 rebounds and 5 assists. David Kalema had 15 points 4 rebounds and 3 assists and Willy Workman added 11 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks.

Plattsburgh placed 5 players in double figures led by 14 points from Ezra Hodgson who was 4x8 from downtown. Ed Corea and Shavar Fields both came off the bench to score 13 points each. Jordan Moody had 11 points and 4 steals, while Reggie Williams added 10 points, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks.

The Cardinals end their season with a 20-9 record with their 5th trip to the NCAA tournament in the past 8 years. I feel confident that this team with everybody returning next year will find their way back to the big dance and perhaps make a little more noise than they did this year.

Congratulation to the Cardinals and the Red Dragons who lost a heartbreaker today on fine seasons. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 09, 2013, 06:11:46 PM
Cortland saw Middlebury finish both halves with more verve, and that closing punch meant curtains for one heckuva RDragons campaign. Down by nine at the half after an all but even opening 17 minutes, Corts quickly made noise in the second period but still trailed by eight with 14:27 left. Rising to over 50 percent shooting from the field, the hosts tied matters at the 10 minute mark and with 8:53 left took a 55-48 lead on K. McMahon's inside 3-point play. Cortland would score just eight points the rest of the way. J. Wolfin struck from beyond the arc on the heels of McMahon, and though the Panthers were certainly no ball of fire themselves coming down the stretch, grabbed the lead on J. Kizel's bucket at 3:28. Thirty-seconds later and reliable Dragon B. Manning connected for three and a 60-58 CSt advantage. Kizel free throws knotted it at 2:31. P. Lynch's inside deuce at 1:42 produced a lead the Midds never relinquished. The margin grew to five at 0:27. L. Herron's triple cut it to two at 0:17. Lynch free throws were the clincher.

Kizel was the brightest of lights in the win with 22 pts(7x12fg, 3x6 3s, 5x6fts. J. Jensen off the bench landed 13 pts(7x7fts), 11 rebs, and Lynch had 10 pts. McMahon posted the game of his career with 24 pts(11x15fg), 11 rebs, 3 assts. J. Winter had 12 pts(5x12fg) and didn't attempt a three. J. Smith experienced tough times in a five point outing (2x12fg, 1x8 3s). Manning posted nine points (3x6fg -- all treys)

Yes, the difference wound up at the FT line -- Midds 17x21, Corts 4x7. Didn't see the contest, but we don't question the contrast. Bigger physically, Panthers probably earned 'em. Otherwise, CSt 26x56fg, Midds 22x51fg. Panthers 34-29 reb edge but near even till late. Few turnovers, Midds 11, Corts 10.

A salute to both ......

(We stand corrected .....grats)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on March 09, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
A couple of quick items:

1) Our apologies for the video not working today for the Cortland-Middlebury game. Go figure, we tried it for the first time last week and everything was great. Today, nothing would work. We're not sure what happened, but we apologize for the technical problems.

2) First-team all-league players are the only ones considered by the ECAC for their all-star teams. The All-SUNYAC first-teamers (including Simmons) were forwarded by the league to the ECAC. Simmons was on the ballot.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 09, 2013, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 09, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2013, 01:13:00 AM
Maybe they missed the deadline? Just throwing out the possibilities.

One word... "SHAME". "SHAME" on the ECAC for completely ignoring Jake if he was nominated by his school or "SHAME" on Buffalo State if they missed a deadline for  nominating Jake. One way or another (and I gotta believe that Buffalo State nominated a kid who may be the decorated 4 year basketball player in Buffalo State history). SHAME on who ever is responsible for this slight!

Nuff Said.

As much as I respect Jake, I saw Randy Smith Play and Jake is no Randy Smith!


I Love NY !!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
Morrisville State leads Rhode island 62-61 with 15 seconds to go in overtime. Mo State at the line for free throws and they make them both to go up by three. Rhode Island comes down and throws up a 3 point attempt to tie the game but it doesn't go down and the Mustangs get the rebound. Rhode Island fouls with 2 seconds left. Jordan Prior hits both free throws and the Mustangs win 66-61. A big upset as the Mustangs will now go to the round of 16 for the first time in school history.

Jailaan Kinsey of Morrisville hit a big 3 pointer with 26 seconds to go in regulation to tie the game. Rhode Island with plenty of time to go for the game winner had the ball stolen by the Mustangs Rhamel Williams with 6 seconds left.

The Mustangs then came from behind in overtime 3 times and finally took the lead for good on 2 free throws by Prior with 46 seconds to go.  Mustangs' Brandon Hanks promptly stole the ball on the Anchormen's possession and fed Prior for a layup to give them a 62-58 lead with 30 seconds left.. Rhode Island could never catch up.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 09, 2013, 10:19:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 09, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
Morrisville State leads Rhode island 62-61 with 15 seconds to go in overtime. Mo State at the line for free throws and they make them both to go up by three. Rhode Island comes down and throws up a 3 point attempt to tie the game but it doesn't go down and the Mustangs get the rebound. Rhode Island fouls with 2 seconds left. Jordan Prior hits both free throws and the Mustangs win 66-61. A big upset as the Mustangs will now go to the round of 16 for the first time in school history.

Jailaan Kinsey of Morrisville hit a big 3 pointer with 26 seconds to go in regulation to tie the game. Rhode Island with plenty of time to go for the game winner had the ball stolen by the Mustangs Rhamel Williams with 6 seconds left.

The Mustangs then came from behind in overtime 3 times and finally took the lead for good on 2 free throws by Prior with 46 seconds to go.  Mustangs' Brandon Hanks promptly stole the ball on the Anchormen's possession and fed Prior for a layup to give them a 62-58 lead with 30 seconds left.. Rhode Island could never catch up.

Wow!! J. Prior a Cortland High School grad who spent the past two seasons at Onondaga CC in Syracuse. The jr guard started five games for M'ville, averaging nearly nine points with 41 3s at a 45 percent success clip. Yeah, surprise, surprise, a Cortland bomber. Another Cortland product with the Mustangs is jr forward T. Wilk
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: trixiep on March 09, 2013, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 09, 2013, 06:11:46 PM
Cortland saw Middlebury finish both halves with more verve, and that closing punch meant curtains for one heckuva RDragons campaign. Down by nine at the half after an all but even opening 17 minutes, Corts quickly made noise in the second period but still trailed by eight with 14:27 left. Rising to over 50 percent shooting from the field, the hosts tied matters at the 10 minute mark and with 8:53 left took a 55-48 lead on K. McMahon's inside 3-point play. Cortland would score just eight points the rest of the way. J. Wolfin struck from beyond the arc on the heels of McMahon, and though the Panthers were certainly no ball of fire themselves coming down the stretch, grabbed the lead on J. Kizel's bucket at 3:28. Thirty-seconds later and reliable Dragon B. Manning connected for three and a 60-58 CSt advantage. Kizel free throws knotted it at 2:31. P. Lynch's inside deuce at 1:42 produced a lead the Midds never relinquished. The margin grew to five at 0:27. L. Herron's triple cut it to two at 0:17. Lynch free throws were the clincher.

Kizel was the brightest of lights in the win with 22 pts(7x12fg, 3x6 3s, 5x6fts. J. Jensen off the bench landed 13 pts(7x7fts), 11 rebs, and Lynch had 10 pts. McMahon posted the game of his career with 24 pts(11x15fg), 11 rebs, 3 assts. J. Winter had 17 pts(5x12fg) and didn't attempt a three. J. Smith experienced tough times in a five point outing (2x12fg, 1x8 3s). Manning posted nine points (3x6fg -- all treys)

Yes, the difference wound up at the FT line -- Midds 17x21, Corts 4x7. Didn't see the contest, but we don't question the contrast. Bigger physically, Panthers probably earned 'em. Otherwise, CSt 26x56fg, Midds 22x51fg. Panthers 34-29 reb edge but near even till late. Few turnovers, Midds 11, Corts 10.

A salute to both ......
.  Correction:  Winter had 12 pts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 10, 2013, 12:42:18 AM
Quote from: thebear on March 09, 2013, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 09, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 09, 2013, 01:13:00 AM
Maybe they missed the deadline? Just throwing out the possibilities.

One word... "SHAME". "SHAME" on the ECAC for completely ignoring Jake if he was nominated by his school or "SHAME" on Buffalo State if they missed a deadline for  nominating Jake. One way or another (and I gotta believe that Buffalo State nominated a kid who may be the decorated 4 year basketball player in Buffalo State history). SHAME on who ever is responsible for this slight!

Nuff Said.

As much as I respect Jake, I saw Randy Smith Play and Jake is no Randy Smith!


I Love NY !!!!!

No comparison was made to Randy Smith. You will note (or maybe you missed) that I said Jake is "may be (most) decorated 4 year basketball player player in Buffalo State history" Clearly someone as knowledgeable as you knows about  Randy (who I had the honor to play with twice in the Annual Randy Smith All Star game which was a function every 2nd Saturday at MLK park in BUffalo) did not play 4 years at Buffalo State. Therefore there was no comparison to the most decorated  "4 year basketball player".

I never compare apples to  oranges and, hopefully, we all know the difference.

My statement still stands!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 10, 2013, 12:45:27 AM
Congrats to both Cortland and Plattsburgh. Thier success this season bodes well for the future (IMHO) of the 'Yac!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on March 10, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
John Dibartolomeo (Rochester) ends his Career as a Legitimate 1st Team All American and one of the Most decorated players to ever play at A college in The Rochester area. In Rochesters great Basketball tradition and great players.. Guys who have to be in that category are 1994 Player of the Year Scott Fitch (Geneseo) now Fairport High School Boys Basketball Coach. Corey McAdam who carried a Very inexperianced Nazareth team in 2009-2010 and was a 1st Team All American. I was around that Nazareth and understood how good McAdam was. I am very fortunate i was apart of such Great Person and Player in 2009-2010 at Nazareth. Seth Hauben who was a 1st Team All American in 2005 for Rochester.. Johnny D is THE Best player to play in the East Region in the past 2-3 years. Even know Dibartolomeo didnt have nearly his Greatest game in A Yellow Jacket Uniform he his still One of the best Division 3 Players we have seen in the East Region in the last 10 years. The 2 Best Guards to play in the East Region in the last 10 Years are arguably Corey McAdam and John Dibartolomeo. Fans and Players always compare the Greatest Players of there time and its hard to do. Because Scott Fitch, Corey McAdam and John Dibartolomeo are all different players but are Great in there own way.. Good Luck to Johnny D in his future it was a pleasure to watch you play the last 4 years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2013, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on March 10, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
The 2 Best Guards to play in the East Region in the last 10 Years are arguably Corey McAdam and John Dibartolomeo.

Two time All American Anthony Williams, from Plattsburgh State, would have to be on any list of best guards from the East Region in the past 10 years. Rochester fans may remember his jump shot (not a heave) from half court at the buzzer that beat the favored Yellowjackets 61-60 and sent them home early in the 2007 NCAA tourney. Williams' Plattsburgh State teams made 3 consecutive NCAA tournaments. I'll forgive you for leaving him off your list as I relize this was a bit before your time. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2013, 03:31:04 PM
It's that time of year when we can choose a player to play in the NABC All Star Game that is taking place in Salem, Va. this year. Last year East Region player Ralph Temgoua from St. Lawrence was voted onto the team. This year one of the players that can be voted onto the team is SUNYAC Player of the Year, forward Hayden Ward from Oswego State. I urge all the visitors to the SUNYAC board to go to the front page of D3hoops and vote for Hayden. He needs our support as he's way behind the current leaders.

Here's the link:  http://d3hoops.com/landing/index?t=1363029315978

The voting only lasts for 2 days so don't wait to cast your vote. Do it now.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 11, 2013, 03:36:30 PM
My bracket is shot and I love it!!  Great season Cards and Dragons!!  Watch out for those Magicman Cards next season if they stay healthy!!   Mo State's and Ithaca's success is tremendous!!!  There can not be too many people with the Mustangs in the Sweet sixteen!!!  Anytime you beat Rochester at home in the "mini-Palestra" it is a sensational achievement!!   Of course the Bomber and Mustang success makes me feel much better about my Knights too (as both of these "charging teams" had losses to Clarkson early in the season.  Reflected glory is small consolation but I'll take what I can! ;)

P.S. Bengalsrule - have to agree with the assestment of Jake's snub, but again what Jake has accomplished transcends awards.  He'll always be first team in my book!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 11, 2013, 04:10:16 PM
Magic is right about Hayden Ward.  Labeled him a "beast" the first time I saw him play as a freshman.  Do you know if this a "vote early and often" type of thing or are we each entitled to only one vote?  Because if it's a "vote early and often" type thing like the "Chicago votes of old" I'll be voting alot!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2013, 06:15:03 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 11, 2013, 04:10:16 PM
Magic is right about Hayden Ward.  Labeled him a "beast" the first time I saw him play as a freshman.  Do you know if this a "vote early and often" type of thing or are we each entitled to only one vote?  Because if it's a "vote early and often" type thing like the "Chicago votes of old" I'll be voting alot!!!

with age,
I believe you can vote only once. However if you have multiple computers or devices you can vote once on each device. I have 3 computers so I got to vote 3 times.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2013, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 11, 2013, 03:36:30 PM
There can not be too many people with the Mustangs in the Sweet sixteen!!! 

I'd venture a guess that of the 288 entries in the Men's D3hoops Brackets Tournament, none of them have Morrisville State in the sweet 16. ;D  Unless somewhere among those entries is a Morrisville State student who was a homer. ??? However seeing that no one from the NEAC conference hardly ever comes on and posts on D3hoops (the last entry on that board was over a year ago and it was mine.) I doubt that anyone from that conference even filled out a brackets sheet. :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 11, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: with age came? on March 11, 2013, 03:36:30 PM
P.S. Bengalsrule - have to agree with the assestment of Jake's snub, but again what Jake has accomplished transcends awards.  He'll always be first team in my book!!!

Thanks Buddy for the support of Jake :) and sorry about the U of R snub :-[ vs. Ithaca. You got admit, win or lose, it's gotta be a pretty good year when 2 NYS schools, who are less than 65 miles apart, make it to the "Sweet 16"!! All is well in the EMPIRE STATE!!! ;)

Im voting for Ward tonite (since Jake can't get votes :'( ) and then twice again tommorrow from my work computers (2). :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2013, 12:56:12 AM
No idea if Jake needs votes -- gotta figure DiBartolomeo is one of the guys the NABC committee picked from the East. Is the other Simmons or Rossi? And if Rossi advances to Salem, does Simmons replace him?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2013, 03:16:06 AM
Mike Deane must still have a little magic left. Deane, the former Potsdam State great, who was out of coaching last year, came back this year as an assistant coach for James Madison. The Dukes are coached by one of his old Siena players, Matt Brady. On Monday night the Dukes, who came in 4th place in the Colonial Athletic Conference during the regular season, defeated the top seed, Northeastern 70-57 to win the automatic bid to the NCAA Division I tournament. It's the 4th different program Mike's been affiliated with that's been to the Big Dance. It's the first time that James Madison has been to the NCAA tournament in 19 years having last went in 1994. I have to believe Mike's association with the program this year had a little something to do with the Dukes getting back to the tournament after such a long absence. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bombers798891 on March 12, 2013, 04:33:11 PM
Quote from: bearnation on March 06, 2013, 10:00:28 AM
Bear, I agree with your assessment of Division III  liberal Arts schools. Example Ithaca's roster, not one of their players is from the State of New York.  Its like a Division I roster.  All out of state players.  Go figure!  At least their assistant coach is a Potsdam Alumni.

I know this is a week or so late, but whatever...

If you spent five minutes talking to the coaching staffs at Ithaca, you'd realize how absurd your implication is. Frankly, if there's one criticism I have of Ithaca's coaching staffs as a whole it's that they use the "We can't get the players in because of the cost of attendance/lack of financial aid" as a crutch way too often. A majority of Ithaca students come from outside of New York State, and you're attempting to claim something is fishy based on a sample of 14 of them?


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 12, 2013, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2013, 03:31:04 PM
It's that time of year when we can choose a player to play in the NABC All Star Game that is taking place in Salem, Va. this year. Last year East Region player Ralph Temgoua from St. Lawrence was voted onto the team. This year one of the players that can be voted onto the team is SUNYAC Player of the Year, forward Hayden Ward from Oswego State. I urge all the visitors to the SUNYAC board to go to the front page of D3hoops and vote for Hayden. He needs our support as he's way behind the current leaders.

Here's the link:  http://d3hoops.com/landing/index?t=1363029315978

The voting only lasts for 2 days so don't wait to cast your vote. Do it now.

Magicman...Pat... Is Ward the only player eigible to represent the SUNYAC because he is the player of the year? Or can another 'Yac player also go???  I'm getting mixed messages from these posts?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2013, 01:16:19 AM
There is definitely not a restriction of that kind.  Ward getting voted on the team would not exclude Simmons from being one of the two East Region selections.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2013, 01:27:37 PM
The D3hoops All Region Teams are out.

Hayden Ward from Oswego State was chosen for the 1st Team

Jake Simmons from Buffalo State and Jesse Winter from Cortland State were both chosen for the 2nd Team.


Here is the link for the East Team:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2012-13/east-men

Here is the link for all of the regional teams;

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2012-13/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 18, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
The NABC has released their All District Teams for Division III today.

Players from the SUNYAC League:

Hayden Ward from Oswego State and Jesse Winter from Cortland State were both chosen for the 1st Team.

Jake Simmons from Buffalo State was chosen for the 2nd Team.


Also:
John DiBartolomeo of Rochester was chosen as the East District Player of the Year.

Coach Tom Spanbauer from Cortland State was the selected as the Coach of the Year.

Congratulations to all.

Here's the complete East Region Teams:

EAST
First Team                                                                             Second Team

*John DiBartolomeo, Rochester                                               Richie Bonney, Hobart
Sheldon Jones, Stevens Institute of Technology                        Kevin Donohue, Union
Sean Rossi, Ithaca                                                                 Jason Norsen, St. John Fisher
Stefan Thompson, Hobart                                                       Jake Simmons, Buffalo State
Hayden Ward, SUNY Oswego                                                   Carl Yaffe, NYU
Jesse Winter, SUNY Cortland
Coach of the Year: Tom Spanbauer, SUNY-Cortland
*District Player of the Year

Here's a link showing the complete NABC All District Teams from the entire country:

http://static.psbin.com/z/e/dtmf3oj4do2ttt/2013_NABC_Division_III_All-District_Teams_and_Coaches.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference Re: Empire 8
Post by: dcahill44 on March 18, 2013, 07:54:27 PM
Anyone going to be in Salem this weekend? great host of games!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2013, 12:40:27 PM
The 2 East Region players selected to play in the NABC All Star game at Salem this Saturday at 3:30 PM are John DiBartolomeo from Rochester and Stefan Thompson from Hobart. No YAC guys this year. :( :P

Here's the link to the complete rosters for both the East and West teams:

http://d3hoops.com/notables/2013/03/nabc-names-2013-all-star-rosters
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 22, 2013, 02:56:03 AM
The NABC Division III All America Teams were announced Thursday March 21st.

Hayden Ward of Oswego State was named to the 3rd team.

John Dibartolomeo of Rochester was named to the 1st team.

Stefan Thompson of Hobart was named to the 2nd team.

Congratulations to these 3 seniors as they close out their collegiate basketball careers.

Here's the link to the complete list of the NABC All America Teams:

http://static.psbin.com/d/m/cvnf6c2r8ahp84/2013_NABC_Coaches-_Division_III_All-America.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 29, 2013, 05:45:24 AM
D3hoops All American Teams were released Thursday evening. The East Region had their share of award winners.

John DiBartolomeo of Rochester was named the D3hoops Player of the Year and a member of the 1st Team Not really a surprise as he had a tremendous season. Was glad to see that his final game against Ithaca didn't cost him this award.

Hayden Ward from Oswego State was named to the 2nd Team.

Sean Rossi from Ithaca was also named to the 2nd Team.

Stefan Thompson from Hobart was named to the Honorable Mention list.

Congratulation to all four players who ended their college careers with an outstanding year.

Too many good players and never enough spots to mention all the guys that had excellent seasons.

Here's the link to the complete list of D3hoops All Americans: http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/2013   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on April 15, 2013, 05:43:31 PM
   Well another Hoops season has come to a close. Congrats to the Lord Jeffs, whom the Cards played to nearly a standstill in the second half of the thier 2nd round playoff game (35-39). In fact no team that faced Amherst, could do better, vs. Amherst, than the Cards did. Couple that with the fact that Cortland was actually leading quarterfinalist Middlebury, with less than 3 mins left in their 2nd round game, and I believe you have the makings of  a much stronger appreciation of 'Yac hoops for years to come. I also want to commend Ithaca who defeated  U of Rochester and then lost to Middlebury by 1, for also adding more respect for the Empire State brand of hoops. Ditto for Morrisville !!!

   5 NYS schools (incl U of R), and all of them made it to the 2nd round. No other state can boast those numbers. Not Illinois, Massachusetts, Ohio etc..... NONE!  I'm gonna miss these geniune chats from the fellas (magicman, the bear, ethlered, jdex, dcahill, ...etc etc) who posted, win or lose (unlike the Football boards where if a team loses many of their fans are either silent or just rag on the winner). The SUNYAC hoops boards have class. And I glad to be a part of them. :)

Till October... ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on April 16, 2013, 06:21:21 PM
As my first year on the D3Boards comes to a close it was a great hobby for me chatting and keeping track of D3 Basketball. Everyone have a great summer, see you in October
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 16, 2013, 07:23:10 PM
Thanks for coming aboard! Enjoyed your take on things and truly enjoy your passion... look forward to more in the off-season and next season!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on April 16, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
Thanks Dave.... looks like its not meant for us to meet! was hoping it would happen at Championship game or at the Oswego-Cortland game... you should try and get to the Wendys Classic next year! I will miss watching Hoopsville on Thursdays and Sundays. talk to you soon
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on April 16, 2013, 11:59:49 PM
Well... I was at Oswego  ;) and it was rather busy at the championship game  :( ... as for the Wendy's Classic, I can try, but it actually happens at a tough part of the cross-over season for football and basketball for me... so who knows.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on May 09, 2013, 07:12:58 PM
http://youtu.be/Q0FKIUcFUnY Documentary on the Ithaca College Basketball team

http://www.d3recruits.blogspot.com/ Division 3 Basketball Recruiting website
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 11, 2013, 01:54:11 PM
Getting ready for the 2013-14 season here ... most of the SUNYAC schedules are posted:
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Brockport_State/men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Buffalo_State/Men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Cortland_State/Men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Fredonia_State/Men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/New_Paltz_State/Men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Oneonta_State/Men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Oswego_State/Men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Potsdam_State/Men/2013-14/index

You can see partial schedules for the rest:
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Geneseo_State/Men/2013-14/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Plattsburgh_State/Men/2013-14/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 12, 2013, 12:54:09 AM
Just when I was going to start looking to see which YAC teams had posted their schedules, you go and post these links to make it easy for me. Damn mind reader...Plus K.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 27, 2013, 04:00:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on August 12, 2013, 12:54:09 AM
Just when I was going to start looking to see which YAC teams had posted their schedules, you go and post these links to make it easy for me. Damn mind reader...Plus K.

So Magicman...who do you see as having the toughest Non-conference schedule??

and the 2nd toughest??

..3rd??

T- 48 days until the 1st "Offical  balls hit the court""
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 15, 2013, 01:17:45 PM
Guess what day it is! ??? ???  I'll give you a hint, it's not hump day.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 29, 2013, 10:36:23 PM
Massey has SUNYAC ranked 17th. I can't ever remember the 'Yac being ranked that high at the beginning of the season. Usually around 27 is where they have traditionally began ( if memory serves me correctly).

Plattsburgh is also ranked 37th in the D3 pre-season rankings! I'm sure that Magicman is smiling somewhere in the North Country! ;)

T- 17 days to the "Official" season opener!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 30, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
Cortland is ranked 28th, which is improbable given their grad losses. 

The pre-season rankings are based on last year, and don't necessarily factor in grad losses and attrition.  I know the Cards are loaded with most of the key parts returning, while Cortland lost a ton of talent.

The Massey ratings usually settle down around Christmas, once teams have 7-10 games under their belts.

But then again D3Hoops has Morrisville ranked in the top 25, as they've added some jucos who also had strong HS credentials including two former Jamesville-Dewitt starters.  In their league strength of schedule will kill them, so they had better run the table.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 31, 2013, 12:36:40 AM
Quote from: thebear on October 30, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
Cortland is ranked 28th, which is improbable given their grad losses. 

The pre-season rankings are based on last year, and don't necessarily factor in grad losses and attrition.  I know the Cards are loaded with most of the key parts returning, while Cortland lost a ton of talent.

The Massey ratings usually settle down around Christmas, once teams have 7-10 games under their belts.

But then again D3Hoops has Morrisville ranked in the top 25, as they've added some jucos who also had strong HS credentials including two former Jamesville-Dewitt starters.  In their league strength of schedule will kill them, so they had better run the table.

Cortland ranked 28th?  Where didu see that my friend?  On the D3 preseason ranking its Emory at 28th withWittenberg in front of them! Unless Im reading something wrong.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 31, 2013, 02:22:51 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 31, 2013, 12:36:40 AM
Quote from: thebear on October 30, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
Cortland is ranked 28th, which is improbable given their grad losses. 

The pre-season rankings are based on last year, and don't necessarily factor in grad losses and attrition.  I know the Cards are loaded with most of the key parts returning, while Cortland lost a ton of talent.

The Massey ratings usually settle down around Christmas, once teams have 7-10 games under their belts.

But then again D3Hoops has Morrisville ranked in the top 25, as they've added some jucos who also had strong HS credentials including two former Jamesville-Dewitt starters.  In their league strength of schedule will kill them, so they had better run the table.

Cortland ranked 28th?  Where didu see that my friend?  On the D3 preseason ranking its Emory at 28th withWittenberg in front of them! Unless Im reading something wrong.

I think that thebear was looking at the final rankings from last year instead of the preseason rankings of this year when he mentioned Cortland at #28 and Morrisville in the Top 25. (They (Cortland) actually ended the year at #27 and Mo State was ranked at #20.)

Or he could have been on drugs. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 31, 2013, 04:15:12 AM
Bengalsrule,

You are correct, the magicman was smiling when he spotted his Plattsburgh State Cardinals getting some recognition in the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll that came out earlier this week.  Preseason polls can be way off base as thebear mentioned with some teams getting recognition that are based on last year's success which doesn't translate into the hoped for results of the current season. The Rochester team of 2011-12 was probably the best example of that in recent memory. Ranked in the Top 10 that year in the preseason poll (#7) and coming off a 22-6 record in 2010-11 they were out of the Top 25 by week #5 and finished with a 17-8 record and missed the NCAA tournament that year. While a preseason ranking or mention doesn't guarantee a team anything, it is nice to have that early recognition and if the team does get off to a good start they can move into the Top 25 much quicker than a team that isn't in the "others receiving votes"  category.

Plattsburgh State returns almost everyone on the roster from last year including their entire starting 5 and 9 of their top 10 players. Most importantly 2nd leading scorer and top rebounder, senior forward John Perez, who was lost to the team down the stretch last year, when he went out with a broken leg and missed the final month of the season, is back and appears to have healed nicely. The Cardinals only have 3 new faces on the team this year and once again Coach Curle's biggest problem will be trying to find ample playing time to keep everyone happy. The Cardinals hope to improve on their 2nd place SUNYAC finish and have to be considered the early season favorites to win the conference crown. Last year they made the NCAA tournament for the 5th time in the past 8 years, which is the best record of any team in the East Region in that span. A 2nd round loss to eventual national champion, Amherst ended the Cards season and this year the team is hoping to advance even further in the Big Dance.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on October 31, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 31, 2013, 02:22:51 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 31, 2013, 12:36:40 AM
Quote from: thebear on October 30, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
Cortland is ranked 28th, which is improbable given their grad losses. 

The pre-season rankings are based on last year, and don't necessarily factor in grad losses and attrition.  I know the Cards are loaded with most of the key parts returning, while Cortland lost a ton of talent.

The Massey ratings usually settle down around Christmas, once teams have 7-10 games under their belts.

But then again D3Hoops has Morrisville ranked in the top 25, as they've added some jucos who also had strong HS credentials including two former Jamesville-Dewitt starters.  In their league strength of schedule will kill them, so they had better run the table.

Cortland ranked 28th?  Where didu see that my friend?  On the D3 preseason ranking its Emory at 28th withWittenberg in front of them! Unless Im reading something wrong.

I think that thebear was looking at the final rankings from last year instead of the preseason rankings of this year when he mentioned Cortland at #28 and Morrisville in the Top 25. (They (Cortland) actually ended the year at #27 and Mo State was ranked at #20.)

Or he could have been on drugs. ;D

While I won't debate Bear's alleged use of medication, Moo-Ville is actually ranked #20 in the pre-season. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 31, 2013, 01:28:33 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on October 31, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 31, 2013, 02:22:51 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 31, 2013, 12:36:40 AM
Quote from: thebear on October 30, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
Cortland is ranked 28th, which is improbable given their grad losses. 

The pre-season rankings are based on last year, and don't necessarily factor in grad losses and attrition.  I know the Cards are loaded with most of the key parts returning, while Cortland lost a ton of talent.

The Massey ratings usually settle down around Christmas, once teams have 7-10 games under their belts.

But then again D3Hoops has Morrisville ranked in the top 25, as they've added some jucos who also had strong HS credentials including two former Jamesville-Dewitt starters.  In their league strength of schedule will kill them, so they had better run the table.

Cortland ranked 28th?  Where didu see that my friend?  On the D3 preseason ranking its Emory at 28th withWittenberg in front of them! Unless Im reading something wrong.

I think that thebear was looking at the final rankings from last year instead of the preseason rankings of this year when he mentioned Cortland at #28 and Morrisville in the Top 25. (They (Cortland) actually ended the year at #27 and Mo State was ranked at #20.)

Or he could have been on drugs. ;D

While I won't debate Bear's alleged use of medication, Moo-Ville is actually ranked #20 in the pre-season.

thebear and I knew that Ethelred as he had emailed me several days ago when the preseason rankings came out. I think that's how thebear mixed up the rankings because of the fact that Morrisville was ranked #20 in both rankings. Then again I'm on drugs, I'm certainly in enough pain right now that I need them. :(

Plus k to everyone on the this page for taking the time to post.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 31, 2013, 06:51:33 PM
Actually the only drug I am on is my carefully rationed dose of wine.  I was speaking to the Massey ratings, which are invalid until there are 10+ games played.

Bears play an exhibition on Monday against a loaded Canadian Algonquin team that features great athleticism.  We shall see.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 01, 2013, 04:20:04 AM
Quote from: thebear on October 31, 2013, 06:51:33 PM
Actually the only drug I am on is my carefully rationed dose of wine.  I was speaking to the Massey ratings, which are invalid until there are 10+ games played.

Bears play an exhibition on Monday against a loaded Canadian Algonquin team that features great athleticism.  We shall see.

I knew there was a logical explanation.  ;D

I'll see the Cardinals scrimmage Saturday against Castleton State. Castleton plays a "modified Grinnell" style offense where they hoist up a lot of 3 pointers often as quickly as they can. Not a lot of defense to be found. We usually handle them fairly easily. Cards will be without the services of big man Reggie Williams until after the Christmas break as he recuperates from a fractured foot. Hope he continues to heal without any setbacks. Reggie moved into the starting lineup last year when John Perez went down and played some of the best ball of his career down the stretch. He will provide valuable minutes when he is able to rejoin the team. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 02, 2013, 07:29:40 AM
Buffalo State got an early start to the season Friday night as they visited Division I Niagara University for an exhibition game against the Purple Eagles. Buff State lost 96-71 but putting up 71 points against a DI team is a decent effort. The Bengals kept it close in the early going and actually had a 10-8 lead, but Niagara went on an 11-0 run to open up a 9 point lead at 19-10. Bengals got within 5 points at 23-18 but the Purple Eagles slowly pulled away and ended the half up 49-29. Niagara continued to build their lead at the start of the 2nd period and were up 55-31 with 17:42 left to play. The Bengals mounted a charge however and outscored Niagara 16-0 over the next 3 minutes led by Rod Epps, Jordan Glover and Justin Mitchell.  When Buff State started their run all 5 starters for Niagara were in the game. The Purple Eagles basically used an 8 man rotation while the Bengals had 10 different players average double digit minutes. Eventually the superior height advantage of Niagara proved to be too much for the Bengals to overcome and the lead once again grew to double figures. Over the final 10 minutes Niagara pulled away to post the final margin of victory. That 16-0 run by the Bengals though, must have had the Bengal faithful on their feet. Hard to outscore any D1 team 16-0 at any point in a game, even against their end of the bench players, much less their starters.   

Some interesting observations from Friday night's game.

1. Justin Mitchell, the Bengals All Conference performer from 2010-11 and 2011-12 is back for his final season. The 6'5' senior forward averaged 14 pts and 8 rebounds his sophomore year while making the YAC's All Conference 2nd team. He followed that up his junior year with 13 ppg and 7 rpg  but missed the final 8 games of the season with a fractured hand. He still was named to the All Conference 2nd team once again. In Friday night's game against Niagara it looks like he hasn't missed a beat as he scored 14 points and had 8 rebounds and 2 blocks.

2. Rod Epps also scored 14 points Friday night and there's a good chance he will be an All Conference selection at the end of this season. The 6'4" junior guard averaged 20 ppg and 3.8 rpg last year and will form a potent 1-2 punch with Mitchell.

3. Coach Ansari seems to have pulled another rabbit out of his hat as newcomer Chris Thompson a 6'5" junior transfer (I think) came off the bench and led the Bengals with 18 points in his first contest in a Bengal uniform. Thompson was 7x12 from the field, 1x2 from 3 point land, 3x4 from the line and grabbed 5 rebounds in 29 minutes. If this effort against a Division I team is any indication of his ability on the hardwood, the Bengals just became a three headed monster and opposing defenses will be hard pressed to contain Mitchell, Epps and Thompson.

4. Another new face for the Bengals is freshman Jordan Glover, a 6'2" guard who the coaching staff must be pretty high on as he started against Niagara Friday night. Glover scored 8 points in his debut

5. Kirkland Legree, also got a start against Niagara and also appears to be a transfer to the Bengal program. Legree is a 6'4" junior guard.

6. Off the bench came Lovell Smith, a 6'3" freshman guard (2 pts, 3 assists, 3 steals in 11 minutes), Sean Buckley a 6'6" freshman (7 pts in 8 minutes), Johnathan Belton, a 6'0" freshman guard (2 pts in 11 minutes) and Rey Jordan, a 5'10' freshman guard (1 assist, 1 steal, and a rebound in 10 minutes)

7. So 1 freshman started and 4 others came in and got significant minutes. Plus the 2 transfers, one of whom started and the other one claimed scoring honors. Lots of new faces, lots of guards and only 3 players listed as forwards. That sounds like a lot of athletic guards with leaping ability.

8. Noticeable absences from Friday night's game: Junior Maurice Miles who had cracked the starting lineup last year but went down with a fractured foot only 6 games into the season. Also no sign of senior Chris Castren. Both players are listed on the 2013-14 roster so I'm assuming they were nursing some injuries that kept them out of the game.

9. I think Plattsburgh State will be duking it out with the Bengals once again.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 03, 2013, 01:36:52 AM
Plattsburgh State looked ready for action as they scrimmaged Castleton State at midday on Saturday. Cardinals were firing on all cylinders as they won the 1st 20 minute session 43-18. Castleton, surprisingly, did not play the modified "Grinnell style" offense that they have used in the past. In fact it was Plattsburgh State who had the greater number of 3 point attempts in the first period. Nine different players saw considerable floor time in the opening stanza as Coach Curle went with his primary rotation and all of them broke into the scoring column. Plattsburgh had a considerable lead in the 2nd 20 minute period as well, but with 10 minutes left to play and the Cards up by 20 in that period he had all the new faces on the floor at the same time and the Castleton regulars were able to cut into that big lead. The Cardinals ended up winning the scrimmage by a 91-62 score. Sophomore Ed Correa found his shooting stroke early and often as he led Plattsburgh with 19 points. Ed hit 5 3 pointers, several from NBA range, and all of them were nothing but net. John Perez looked like his old self, as he attacked the basket with a variety of inside buckets and short jumpers to total 18 points. He added 11 rebounds to lead all players in that category. Point guard Chris Manning had 15 points, 7 steals, (continuing where he left off last year as he led the nation in total steals and steals per game), and 5 assists. Ezra Hodgson added 12 points, Shavar Fields had 10 points, while Shamoy McIntosh, Jordan Moody and Mike Mitchell all finished with 8 points. Plattsburgh ended up with 12 three pointers in the contest as 5 different players hit from long distance. The Cards annual Red & White scrimmage will be on Wednesday the 6th and then the team will travel to Union next weekend for their final tuneup  as they scrimmage the Dutchmen.

Plattsburgh was scheduled to open the season on November 15th against the D3hoops preseason ranked #21,  Alvernia Crusaders, in the 1st game of the Richard Stockton Tip Off Tournament. Apparently Alvernia  had agreed to play in 2 different tournaments at the same time and they backed out of the Stockton tip off, leaving that tournament with a 3 team round robin. I'd like to think that Alvernia was trying to avoid us as they chose to play in the Franklin & Marshall tournament and will open up against Middlebury instead of taking on the Cardinals in the Stockton tourney. Since I think we will beat Middlebury this year on their home court in our annual contest against the Panthers, I'm convinced  Alvernia chose the easier team to start the season. ;D

So the Cardinals won't play on the 15th. Bridgewater State will play host Richard Stockton on the 15th, we'll play Bridgewater State on the 16th, and then face host Stockton on the 17th. Notice how Stockton got a day off between their 2 games while both Bridgewater and Plattsburgh have to play on back to back days. And the Cards have to play at 1 PM on Sunday after a 5 PM game on Saturday evening. Sure nice to be the host team in these tip off events. :o       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 04, 2013, 02:42:57 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 02, 2013, 07:29:40 AM9. I think Plattsburgh State will be duking it out with the Bengals once again.   

Some great observations there my friend. yes our youngsters stepped up in the face of their first real college "bullets"! This team has the most freshman of any that I can remember, but they all come from winning programs (2 from McKinley Hs. - NYS Class A champs 2013, 1 from Hutch Tech - Class A-2 champs Section 6 , Amherst High -  A-1 runner-up Section 6, St Joe's Colleigiate - Catholic school runner-up and the Park School-Private school contenders). Scrappiest freshman crew that I have ever seen.

Both Miles and Castern (combined 11.5 pts per game and 5.4 rebs per) should be ready for action by the time SUNYAC rolls around (Oneonta/New Paltz). Both were starters at some point last season!

I'm excited about this seasons team. A complete review will follow soon!!

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 04, 2013, 10:28:39 PM
Potsdam State hangs on to beat Algonquin College from Canada by a score of 89-85. Bears lead by 11, 83-72 and have the ball with 3:30 left in the game but get sloppy and almost hand the game to their Canadian visitors. Bears commit 4 turnovers, miss 4 shots and foul twice over the next 2:30 and allow the Thunder to close to within a single point at 83-82. Bears' newbie,Jr. transfer Rishawd Hendricks, is fouled and hits 2 free throws for some breathing room. After the Thunder miss a triple attempt, Potsdam's Zac Adams cans 2 more free throws to stretch the lead to 87-82 with 16 ticks left. Algonquin guard Tyrelle Samuels scores with 10 seconds to go and then the Thunder guard promptly steals the inbounds pass with 4 seconds left, gets fouled and makes the 1st one to make it 87-85. He misses the 2nd but the Bears corral the rebound and Zac Adams is fouled. With a chance to seal the deal Adams misses both free throws, however the Bears end up with the ball (not sure why but they take it out under their basket, think a foul was called on the rebound) and Hendricks makes a nice inbound pass to Rob Duquette who scores a layup for the game's final points.

Duquette led the Bears with a double-double of 18 points and 12 rebounds. Newcomer Josh Blagrove had 15 pts and 6 rebounds in only 12 minutes of floor time. Hendricks had 10 points, 3 boards and a pair of assists. Adams just missed a double-double with 9 pts and 12 boards. Guards Joe Estramonte and Tom Graf both had 9 points. Big man Colin Peterson had 8 pts and 7 boards in 12 minutes.

Algonquin has already played a handful of games and their record was at least 9-0 with the results of a recent weekend tournament not posted. They were very athletic didn't commit many turnovers (only 9 to a whopping 21 for the Bears) The Bears outrebounded them 54-42 and had better shooting percentages from all 3 areas. Most telling was from behind the arc where the Bears went 8-17 and the Thunder hit only 4 of 30 attempts. Fortunately for Algonquin the Bears committed a number of turnovers before they got the ball over halfcourt and that resulted in a lot of easy baskets for the visitors. The Bears will definitely need to work on their inbounds passes and getting the ball up the court better. Lots of positives for Potsdam though. Duquette looks good and will be a force in the paint. He's stronger than ever. The new faces that saw court time all contributed. I think the Bears will make the SUNYAC playoffs this year, which will be a nice step up from last season.

Side note to thebear:

The video feed was decent however the the audio was poor quality. I tried 2 different computers and had a good deal of trouble trying to get clear audio. Even had external speakers that I plugged in to 1 computer. That only made the bad audio feed louder. Don't know if it was background noise, bad cables with feedback, a bad jack but it should be looked into. Don't think it was on my end as I listened to a few other games recently and had no problem with the audio feeds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on November 06, 2013, 11:41:51 AM
I am hearing some good things about Buffalo State. Height in the frontcourt and rebounding may be an issue but the talent is apparently there for a possible NCAA tourney berth this year. Games against Fisher in the opener and the North Central game in December will be good barometers to see what their potential is this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 07, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on November 06, 2013, 11:41:51 AM
I am hearing some good things about Buffalo State. Height in the frontcourt and rebounding may be an issue but the talent is apparently there for a possible NCAA tourney berth this year. Games against Fisher in the opener and the North Central game in December will be good barometers to see what their potential is this year.

  1st let me welcome you to the SUNYAC boards! I see this is your first time posting here and as always its good to have some knowledgeable folks here to match withs with Magicman, Ethelred and others.

  Yes the BENGALS are looking like there may be something special brewing at 1300 Elmwood! What they lack in height they more than make up with guts and defense. There was 1 stretch early in the 2nd half @ D1 Niagara, where they, Niagara,  couldn't get the ball past half court in 5 consecutive tries ( or maybe it was 4  :-[ ). The front court is led by seniors Chris Castren and Justin Mitchell. These 2 guys are also the last remaining members of the 10-11  team that won the SUNYACS and then went on to NCAA's at Ramapo and beat Gwynned Mercy and Johnson & Wales to get to the Sweet 16! Many expect them to be leaders both on and off the court. Justin with his shotblocking and rebounding and Caz with his calm demeanor a sweet jumpshot. Add multi-purpose junior Maurice Miles ( who was a starter last year until his season ended at Potsdam) and new comers Chris Thompson ( read Magicmans review of Chris..'nuff said) and Legree Kirkland (a top 10 shot blocker in junior college in 11-12) and you have the makings of a decent, to very good,  front court !

  When you add the R.D.O.T.Y "Rodney Dangerfield Of The 'Yac" ("doesnt get any respect") Rod Epps then you have a the makings of something special. All Rod did last year was finish in the top 10 in 4 'Yac categories..4th in scoring, 6th in 3 pt fgs made, 8 th in FT %, 9th in 3 pt fg% and and yet he doesn't even make 3rd team???? ??? Check the archives of the 'Yac and you won't find anyone with similar stats to be shunned as Rod was last year. But....that was last year and this season he is "on a mission"! Add soph Bradley Doyley who is taking over the pg  position from graduated senior Ant Hamer. Bradley has shown that he is ready for such a challenge in a tough PG conference. With guards like Manning at Plattsburgh and Ivy at Brockport, Bradley will face top notch competiton each week in the 'Yac! I believe that he is up to the task!

  Youth is being served at Buffalo State. This statement has never been truer than it is today. The strength of this bench begins with sophomore Chris Boyd. This tough minded defender, who has a lethal "J" and hops that can still be seen on Youtube (@ Geneseo last season), appears to be ready to step up his role on a BENGALS team that has 8 underclassmen (6 frosh, 2 sophs) on its roster. This supporting class also includes Frosh Jordan Glover who's father was Coach Ansari's very first point guard in High school (Turner carroll - 2 State Champioships in the 90's). So you know that the bloodlines are in sync with Coach Ansari's thinking. He  started vs. Niagara and showed that he can man the pg position when called upon. To say that this graduate of St. Joes Collegiate is ready for the college game is an understatement. Another PG is Freshman Johnathon Belton who, like Jordan, comes from a winning program (Amherst H.s.) and is a tough defender who does not mind going into the paint  nor doing whats required. They probably don't get any tougher than Freshman Rey Jordan. This dual all WNY football & basketball player could have probably started for the BENGALS football team at safety. However he chose to try out for the BENGALS basketball team with no guarantee of making it. I believe that time will show this kid to be 1 of the toughest defenders this conference has ever seen. (Quote me Magicman). He's fearless! His fellow McKinley HS and All WNY  teammate is Freshman Lovell Smith. Lovell plays much bigger than his size. This freshman slasher has a nose for the basketball (and hops to match) and a desire to be 1 of the better multi position players that we have seen in recent memory at Buff State. Last but certainly not least is Sean Buckley. This 6'6 frosh is still growing. The last 6'6 freshman at Buff State was Captain Seth Runge (who graduated this past May) and this kid is farther along as a freshman than Seth was when he first arrived. "Coachable" is the 1 word to come to mind when I think of Sean. Add new assistant Coach Mark Gross, who was also a member of that famous 10-11 team and you have the makings of a truly special team if things jell right and they stay injury free.

  The BENGALS Non-Conference schedule is the toughest that I can ever remember! They begin with a trip to St John Fishers (17-9 last season). If you go over to the E8 boards you can see that the Cardinals are clearly the preseason favorite to win the E8. Next stop is at Medialle college (18-11 last Season in the AMCC). Because Medaille is located less than 3 miles from Buffalo State, it gives this game a little added "Umpf" when it comes on Nov 19th! First home game is versus  Ohio Northern. This team made it to the semi-finals of the always tough OAC (Ohio Athletic Conference). They return their top 5 scorers from last season and look to challenge Baldwin Wallace and Capital for the conference crown. The next day the BENGALS then face John Carroll who is also from the tough OAC and they too play a tough brand of hoops down in Cleveland Ohio. And thats just November!

  December begins with a visit from the defending Liberty league Champ and NCAA playoff participant (the past 2 years),  Hobart...'Nuff said! After a "Yac visit from Oneonta and New Paltz then its off to sunny Orlando Fla. The first opponent there is Carthage College which comes from the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin. The Conf of Ill/Wisc is  the 2nd ranked Conference in all of Div 3 (according to todays Massey ratings - SUNYAC is ranked 17th)! Carthage is ranked 45th (out of 412 D3 schools) in those same massey ratings. If that is scary then consider the 2nd BENGALS opponent in the tournament is North Central Illinois which is ranked 4th amongst all D3 schools. And they too come from the Ill/Wisc conf. With Hobart ranked 56th and St John Fisher ranked at 102, Massey predicts that the BENGALS will be lucky to get 3 wins before the 1st of the year. But then...that's why they "Play the games" ( I can't remember who said it but it sure seems appropriate now).

  I can't wait until the season kicks off for real next weekend! I'm predicting that the 'Yac will have 3 teams in the NCAA's. Thats right magicman...3!!!! Good luck to all.

    And NYHOOPS8... we hope to hear from you again! ;)

Go BENGALS!!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2013, 02:26:37 AM
Bengalsrule,

Massey actually predicts that Buffalo State will have a 4-5 record by January 1st and will lose their next 3 games to sit at 4-8 through January 14th.

I think Mr. Massey's computer ran into a virus and has caught a cold. I believe Buffalo State will be no worse than 7-2 and possibly 8-1
heading into the new year. The Bengals should be, at the very least, 12-3 by January 24th when they host Plattsburgh and it's not impossible to find them at 14-1. Even the game against North Central in Florida on December 21st, which could be their only loss at that time, is a game that the Bengals could win. Massey has them losing that game by a predicted score of 82-68. North Central lost some top players off that Final Four team from last year and the CCIW coaches poll only has them picked to finish 4th in their own  league despite the fact that the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll has them ranked #6. They will still be a very good team as the CCIW conference is loaded this year, but Buffalo State will hang with this team and could pull off the upset against the Cardinals. Now that game on January 24th against the other Cardinals,  Plattsburgh State, is the game that the Bengals really have to worry about. ;D That one could have far more implications on post season play than some holiday tournament game in Florida in mid December. ;)   

Mr. Massey's computer doesn't give Plattsburgh State any more respect than it gave the Bengals. He has the Cardinals 4-4 heading into the New Year. I think we could be undefeated or at the worst 6-2. By the time we take on the Bengals on Jan. 24th we could be 11-3 or better. Of course injuries or eligibility issues could always impact the teams but I think the Cards and Bengals could both have decent seasons. I see 2 teams from the conference getting into the NCAA tournament. Having 3 teams get in seems to be quite a stretch.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2013, 04:49:22 PM
D3hoops preseason All America team was released today. here are the players from the East Region that were honored:

Jared Suderley            2nd Team    Senior forward from Hartwick

John Ivy                     3rd Team    Senior guard from Brockport State

Richie Bonney             4th Team    Senior forward from Hobart

Here's the link to the complete list of All Americans:  http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2014
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 10, 2013, 07:43:49 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 08, 2013, 02:26:37 AM
I see 2 teams from the conference getting into the NCAA tournament. Having 3 teams get in seems to be quite a stretch.   

Magic, I agree, the only way you would get three is to have two teams with solid records and top regional rankings heading into the conference tournament, and then an unranked lower bracket seed winning the whole thing.

SUNYAC with their 18 game double round robin, and long road trips, tends to saddle everyone with a few losses, which hurts their regional ranking credentials, as invariably a top team has a Saturday let down far from home and gets hurt on strength of schedule.

Not that we've won a lot of games lately, but every year one or two teams come into our place, and get upset, either after a tough game at your place, or looking ahead to playing Plattsburgh.

I also think that Cortland and Brockport both have talent, and can beat anyone on a given day or night.

Can't wait for next Friday night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 10, 2013, 01:39:28 PM
Preseason SUNYAC rankings
1. Plattsburgh State Returns most starters from an NCAA Tournament team.
2. Brockport State One of the fastest teams in the state and John Ivy returns Preseason SUNYAC POY
3. Buffalo State Hearing lots of good things about this team. led by Rod Epps.
4. Geneseo State Returns most starters and good fundamental team from last year
5. Oswego A very young team with a LOT of Talent expect this team to improve greatly throughout the year
6. Cortland State Losing Almost all of there starters I think they beatout New Paltz for a bid in the Conference
7. New Paltz I think this team misses the YAC tournament by a game very young and on the rise. Coach Rejniak and Coach Hack will develop a serious contender in less than 3 years.
8. Potsdam I have heard good things about them im just not ready to put them in the conference tournament yet.
9. Oneonta I think Oneonta will win more games this year and be better
10. Fredonia State Coach Seymour is going to do a great job at Fredonia. but it will take time to rebuild the program
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 10, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
Yup, plenty of new faces dotting Cortland roster. No surprises there. RDragons' 24-5 championship campaign was senior-led, J. Winter inspired. Is among the departed along with J. Smith, now in ass't coaching slot. Were two of seven players appearing in every game. Two players from those ranks return -- 6-6 sr K. McMahon (13ppg, 7.6rpg) and 6-1 jr L. Herron (7.5ppg). Roster of 17 lists three seniors, eight frosh. Four-year performer McMahon, Herron and four-year player M. Kearney captains. The 6-4 Kearney started as a frosh but has seen court time shrink along with stats. Never much of a scorer. Third senior is 6-5 four year player G. Spendjian who saw role duty in 25 games last season. Three-year performer is 6-7 jr M. McGowan, a 15 game spot participant last winter. Two backcourt vets with limited playing time are sophs B. Ferguson and TJ Hefele, the latter the brother of key graduating cog Harrison H.

Incoming talent should be noticed quickly. Long Island fr guard Tyree Glascom has West Hempstead all-star pedigree and 6-4 fr J. Morrow paced Albany Academy to a stellar independent season in the state. Fr 6-3 Michael Kelly of Monroe was a force for state finalist Burke Catholic. A scholastic rebounding hound was 6-6 fr C. Joseph from respected LI Deer Park. From the JC ranks comes guard J. Guzman of Suffern. Other frosh: g T. Felder of Mount Vernon, g M. Russo of Liverpool, 6-5 f A. Golden of Oxford, swingman C. Williams of the Bronx.

Catching our attention on the just released roster is B. Estarfaa, a 6-3 soph g who in '10-11 earned all-western NY status at Maryvale and went on for scant play at Medaille the following season. Anyone from those precincts remember him? Corts open new chapter Saturday at 1 with Medaille in Buffalo

Certainly challenges on the horizon for 19th year coach Tom Spanbauer  .........

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on November 11, 2013, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 07, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on November 06, 2013, 11:41:51 AM
I am hearing some good things about Buffalo State. Height in the frontcourt and rebounding may be an issue but the talent is apparently there for a possible NCAA tourney berth this year. Games against Fisher in the opener and the North Central game in December will be good barometers to see what their potential is this year.

  1st let me welcome you to the SUNYAC boards! I see this is your first time posting here and as always its good to have some knowledgeable folks here to match withs with Magicman, Ethelred and others.

And NYHOOPS8... we hope to hear from you again! ;)

Go BENGALS!!! :D



Bengalsrule, I appreciate it. I will probably be checking in throughout the year and hope to provide some content for the boards. Retirement provides me much more of an opportunity to post and get involved with the site. Hope to catch a few more games live this year than in the past.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 11, 2013, 03:46:28 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on November 11, 2013, 01:15:04 PM

Bengalsrule, I appreciate it. I will probably be checking in throughout the year and hope to provide some content for the boards. Retirement provides me much more of an opportunity to post and get involved with the site. Hope to catch a few more games live this year than in the past.

Let me know if you plan on attending a game at Buff State. I know the coach in charge of comp tickets and I can leave a ticket (or 2) for you ! ;)

Cant wait till this weekend!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 13, 2013, 12:30:19 PM

And at the starting gate .......

For Friday:
---Fredonia tips off vs. Union at 6 p.m. in Nazareth tourney (Naz vs. Sage Colleges at 8)

---New Paltz in Calif. vs. Whittier at 6(EST)

--- Oswego hosts tourney foe Lancaster Bible  at 8 (Manhattanville vs. Neumann at 4)

--- Potsdam home to Canton at 8

---Oneonta at tourney host Rochester at 8 (D'Youville vs. Tufts at 3)

For Saturday:
---Cortland at Medaille at 1

---Oswego tourney consi (2), final (6)

---Fredonia at Naz tourney consi(2), final (4)

---Potsdam home vs. Farmingdale at 3

---Oneonta at Rochester tourney consi(3), final (8)

---Plattsburgh vs. Bridgewater St. at R. Stockton(Galloway, NJ) at 5

---Buffalo St. at SJ Fisher at 7

---New Paltz at Redlands, CA at 10(EST)

For Sunday:
---Plattsburgh at Richard Stockton at 1

For Wednesday, 11/20:
---Geneseo home vs. Morrisville at 7

For Saturday, 11/23:
---Brockport at St. Lawrence at 4

Any updates??






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2013, 04:36:24 AM
November 6th through November 12th has been a heck of a week for the Plattsburgh State sports scene.

The men's soccer team defeated the top 2 seeds in the conference on the road to claim the SUNYAC crown and the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. The Cardinals will take on Wheaton College (Mass.) on Saturday at 1:30 PM at St. Lawrence.

The women's hockey team won twice to improve to 4-0 and once again was ranked #1 on D3hockey.

The men's hockey team also won twice to improve to 3-0 and was also ranked #1 on D3hockey as they overtook St. Norbert to edge out the Green Knights by 1 point.

SUNYAC Men's Hockey Player of the Week was Kevin Emmerling of Plattsburgh State.

SUNYAC Men's Hockey Goalie of the Week was Mathieu Cadieux of Plattsburgh State. He has only allowed 1 goal in 3 games.

Women's Hockey Goalie, Sydney Aveson of Plattsburgh State, was named ECAC Goalie of the Week for the 2nd straight week. Sydney hasn't allowed a goal this year and has 4 shutouts in 4 games.

Men's soccer player, senior Matt Hamilton, was named the SUNYAC Player of the Year. Matt was also named the MVP of the SUNYAC tournament and was the SUNYAC Offensive Player of the Week. Matt was named to the All Conference 1st team, earning All Conference honors for the 2nd year in a row. 

Men's soccer player, freshman Nick Economou, was the SUNYAC Rookie of the Year. Nick was also named to the All Conference 2nd team.

Men's soccer players, senior Tom Greene, junior Nick Parrella and sophomore Fabian Chaparro were all named to the All Conference 2nd team. For Parrella it was the 2nd time he has won an All Conference award  while Greene and Chaparro were 1st time honorees.

Men's soccer player, freshman Alexis Archilla, who led the team in scoring with 10 goals and 23 points, was named to the All Conference 3rd team. Alexis was 1 of only 4 rookies to make the All Conference teams.

Women's volleyball player, Rosi Cummings, was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Year. She was selected to the All-SUNYAC 1st team which marked the 3rd time she was honored as an All-SUNYAC selection having been a two-time 2nd team selection. She leaves the Cardinals as one of the greatest volleyball players they have ever had.

Now the Men's basketball team opens the season on the road with games at the Richard Stockton tip off tournament and we have to follow that. ???  Hope our good fortune can continue.

We take on  Bridgewater State Saturday afternoon at 5 PM and then have to face the hosts on Sunday at 1 PM. Richard Stockton, of course, has a day off between games as they play Friday at 4 PM against Bridgewater, get to watch us play Bridgewater on Saturday and we get to face them 18 hours later. Nothing like loading the tournament for the host team. :o         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
Think the SUNYAC race may look something like this at year's end. Lots of new faces this year, with a number of transfers along with plenty of new recruits, anything can and probably will happen. It's always tough to win on the road in the YAC so as usual, the teams that protect their home court will be the ones that make the playoffs. Here's my take. I think the top 4 teams are solid teams with a lot of talent and any one of them could claim the SUNYAC crown. Also think Potsdam, Cortland and Oswego are interchangeable with some tough battles being waged there for the final playoff spot.                                     


1. Plattsburgh State
2. Buffalo State
3. Brockport State
4. Geneseo State
5. Potsdam State
6. Cortland State
7. Oswego State
8. Oneonta State
9. New Paltz State
10. Fredonia State
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 10:35:17 AM
SUNYAC games on tap today.

Fredonia State vs Union at Nazareth. 6:00 PM

Union scrimmaged Plattsburgh State last weekend and we beat them by double digits in each half. The Dutchmen won't be that hard to handle. Unfortunately for the Blue Devils they lost 3 of their top 4 scoring threats from a team that was only 7-17 a year ago. I don't think they have the firepower to pull off a season opening victory. Oddsmakers have Union favored by 9 points. I think it might be a little closer but Fredonia goes down 71-65. Would love to see the Blue Devils prove me wrong here.

New Paltz State vs Whittier College at Redlands. Pick a time 3:00 PM or 6:00 PM.

Depending on which website you go to this game could start at 3 PM or 6 PM. I'm guessing it's the 6 PM time despite the D3hoops scoreboard and Whittier College website claiming it's a 3 PM EST start. New Paltz lost a ton of talent with the departure of Matt Devine and Shereef Taylor. Last season's  SUNYAC Rookie of the Year Deveino McRae was supposed to be a bright spot in the Hawks lineup this year, but he's no longer listed on their roster. Hawks need to replace over 50 points per game. I don't see where that will come from. The Whittier Poets return a large part of a team that went 14-12 last year. East coast teams never seem to do well when they travel to the left coast. Tomorrow the Hawks will face tournament host Redlands in the 2nd and final game of their California trip. I think they will be 0-2 when they head back east. The point spread has Whittier favored by only 2 points but I think they will win by a 75-67 score. Sure hope I'm wrong on this one though. Like to see the Hawks come home with 2 wins but they seem up against it.

Lancaster Bible at Oswego State. 8:00 PM

The Lakers found a bigger cupcake that the ones they've been munching on the past few years. Need that guaranteed free pass into your tournament championship game and the Chargers will certainly give them that. Lakers are favored by 25...anything less than that margin should constitute a loss. Lakers win 80-58.

SUNY Canton at  Potsdam State  8:00 PM

See above comments regarding Oswego vs Lancaster Bible. I know that Potsdam and Canton are only 10 miles apart and are looking at the possibilities of sharing some administration positions (at least they were the last I heard) to help cut costs but I'd just as soon pass on the sharing of athletic contests between the 2 schools. At least wait until they have transitioned into D3. It is what it is I guess. At least it's a win, and like the Lakers Potsdam will get an easy pass into the championship game of the North Country Invitational. I wonder if they flipped a coin with Clarkson to see who would get Canton and who would get Farmingdale Sate.  The Bears are favored by 18. Don't think the Kangaroos will keep it much closer. Potsdam 85 Canton 68.

Oneonta State at Rochester 8:00 PM

The Red Dragons will be a better team than last year's edition. Would be nice if Zach Mager's brother who is a new recruit on this year's team is as talented as Zach. Lots of returning players but still not ready for prime time. Rochester lost the D3 Player of the Year but still returns enough talent to win this one. Oddsmakers have favored the Yellowjackets by 17 points. I think Oneonta can keep it closer than that but will fall by a 75-65 final.

Good luck to all the SUNYAC teams. I wish we could win them all. Hopefully throughout the year the stronger teams in the conference will more than hold their own against the tough out of conference matchups that we'll see this year.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 15, 2013, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2013, 10:35:17 AM
SUNYAC games on tap today.

Fredonia State vs Union at Nazareth. 6:00 PM

Union scrimmaged Plattsburgh State last weekend and we beat them by double digits in each half. The Dutchmen won't be that hard to handle. Unfortunately for the Blue Devils they lost 3 of their top 4 scoring threats from a team that was only 7-17 a year ago. I don't think they have the firepower to pull off a season opening victory. Oddsmakers have Union favored by 9 points. I think it might be a little closer but Fredonia goes down 71-65. Would love to see the Blue Devils prove me wrong here.

New Paltz State vs Whittier College at Redlands. Pick a time 3:00 PM or 6:00 PM.

Depending on which website you go to this game could start at 3 PM or 6 PM. I'm guessing it's the 6 PM time despite the D3hoops scoreboard and Whittier College website claiming it's a 3 PM EST start. New Paltz lost a ton of talent with the departure of Matt Devine and Shereef Taylor. Last season's  SUNYAC Rookie of the Year Deveino McRae was supposed to be a bright spot in the Hawks lineup this year, but he's no longer listed on their roster. Hawks need to replace over 50 points per game. I don't see where that will come from. The Whittier Poets return a large part of a team that went 14-12 last year. East coast teams never seem to do well when they travel to the left coast. Tomorrow the Hawks will face tournament host Redlands in the 2nd and final game of their California trip. I think they will be 0-2 when they head back east. The point spread has Whittier favored by only 2 points but I think they will win by a 75-67 score. Sure hope I'm wrong on this one though. Like to see the Hawks come home with 2 wins but they seem up against it.

Lancaster Bible at Oswego State. 8:00 PM

The Lakers found a bigger cupcake that the ones they've been munching on the past few years. Need that guaranteed free pass into your tournament championship game and the Chargers will certainly give them that. Lakers are favored by 25...anything less than that margin should constitute a loss. Lakers win 80-58.

SUNY Canton at  Potsdam State  8:00 PM

See above comments regarding Oswego vs Lancaster Bible. I know that Potsdam and Canton are only 10 miles apart and are looking at the possibilities of sharing some administration positions (at least they were the last I heard) to help cut costs but I'd just as soon pass on the sharing of athletic contests between the 2 schools. At least wait until they have transitioned into D3. It is what it is I guess. At least it's a win, and like the Lakers Potsdam will get an easy pass into the championship game of the North Country Invitational. I wonder if they flipped a coin with Clarkson to see who would get Canton and who would get Farmingdale Sate.  The Bears are favored by 18. Don't think the Kangaroos will keep it much closer. Potsdam 85 Canton 68.

Oneonta State at Rochester 8:00 PM

The Red Dragons will be a better team than last year's edition. Would be nice if Zach Mager's brother who is a new recruit on this year's team is as talented as Zach. Lots of returning players but still not ready for prime time. Rochester lost the D3 Player of the Year but still returns enough talent to win this one. Oddsmakers have favored the Yellowjackets by 17 points. I think Oneonta can keep it closer than that but will fall by a 75-65 final.

Good luck to all the SUNYAC teams. I wish we could win them all. Hopefully throughout the year the stronger teams in the conference will more than hold their own against the tough out of conference matchups that we'll see this year.             

Good commentary as always Magic!  The only thing I'll disagree with is the bolded part.  You said anything less than a 25 point win would be considered a loss, yet you only have them winning by 22.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 12:01:52 PM
7 express,

Thanks for the plug. I know I only had Oswego State winning by 22. I consider it a loss. ;) If I was betting on the game I'd probably take the points. ::)

I discovered after I posted that Potsdam and Clarkson didn't need to flip a coin to see who played SUNY Canton. They just change partners for the Saturday games. Potsdam plays Farmingdale State and Clarkson plays SUNY Canton. In fact Clarkson enjoys playing SUNY Canton so much that they will play them again 4 days later on November 20th.  The Golden Knights must be hoping to match last year's 17 total wins. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2013, 03:38:16 PM
Diito on Magic's good luck to all 'Yac teams. This is the time of year where we make our ratings go up (Currently 15th out of 47... up 2 since last week). I listened to Hoopsville last night and it sounds like regional rankings could come out as early as January! Some other things were sort of confusing on the show, with regards to rankings, but I'll let Magic and Thebear figure that 1 out!

Good luck SUNYAC....let the games begin! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 07:58:36 PM
Fredonia State pulls out a win over Union as they come from 12 down in the 2nd half to beat the Dutchmen 98-89.

The Blue Devils had the lead at the break 50-42 but Union pulled within 2 on several occasions in the 1st 4 minutes of the 2nd period. The Dutchmen, down 61-60, finally caught them and went ahead 63-61 on a 3 pointer with 13:42 left to play. It looked like the Blue Devils had called it quits as Union outscored them 20- 8 over the next 7 minutes and built a lead of 81-69 with 6:55 left in the game. Back came the Blue Devils however with a 21-4 run of their own and went back in front 90-85 with 3:28 to go. Twice the Dutchmen got it to within 3 but Fredonia wouldn't be denied as they opened up 9 point lead to close this one out.

Sophomore guard Robert Lyles was the big gun for the Blue Devils as he poured in 32 points (10x23 fg , 4x11 3's, 8x8 ft) and led the team with 8 rebounds as well. Kevin Federation had 18 points on 5x9 shooting with all 5 field goals coming from downtown. Alexander Grace, John Kovach, and Markus Williams all hit double figures with 11 points each.

Fredonia grabs the 1st SUNYAC win of the season. Good job guys I'm glad I was wrong with my pick and I'd like to think the Blue Devils may have gotten some timely information from my Cardinals who handled Union last week in a scrimmage.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 09:03:15 PM
It looks like New Paltz also came from behind out in California as I just saw a posted final score that has the Hawks in front 69-66 over Whittier. Taylor Sowah with 15 and Nick Taldi returns from a year off with 13 to lead New Paltz.

Hawks were down by as much as 7 in the 1st half but closed to within 3 at the break 35-32. It remained no more than a two possession game for the first 7 minutes of the 2nd period and once again the Poets opened up a 7 point lead at 50-43 with 13:09 left to play. New Paltz hung in there and the lead fluctuated between 4 and 6 points over  the next 7 minutes until the Hawks got within a point at 59-58 on an old fashioned 3 point play by Alex Perlman with 5:24 remaining. 30 seconds later the Hawks had the lead when Andrew Joseph buried a jumper. The Poets hit 2 free throws to regain the edge at 61-60.  The Hawks' Sowah hit 1 of 2 from the line and shortly thereafter got loose inside for a layup and the Hawks were never headed down the stretch. A 3 pointer by RJ Rosa with 2:07 left pushed the lead to 66-61 but the Poets hit a 3 of their own on the next possession to once again tighten things up at 66-64. The Hawks hit 1 of 2 from the line and the Poets hit 2 free throws to make it 67-66 with 1:03 left. With several chances from the line due to offensive rebounding by the Hawks they were able to tack on 2 more free throws in 4 attempts for the final margin of victory.   

Another nice win for the YAC when you least expect it. Good job Hawks... get another one tomorrow against Redlands.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 09:30:54 PM
Potsdam State losing to SUNY Canton  50-43 with 15 minutes to go in the 2nd half.  That's not something I'm very pleased to report. :( >:( :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 09:53:03 PM
Oswego leads Lancaster Bible 57-44 with 3:55 to go.

Potsdam still trails SUNY Canton 61-56 with 4:50 to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 10:04:51 PM
Couldn't watch video of this game because poor University of Rochester wants to charge 6.95 to see the videocast. Did just pull up a live stats page to see what the score is. Heavens to murgatroy!!!! Oneonta State has pulled off the upset of the Yellowjackets as they defeat Rochester 95-80. Nice win for the Red Dragons. One of my favorite players
Zack Mager rattled the nets for 31 points. 4 other Red Dragon players hit for double digits. Great job guys.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 10:19:42 PM
Potsdam finally gets the lead against SUNY Canton 70-69 and the Bears Joe Estramonte is at the line for 2 free throws with 38 seconds left. He misses both of them however and Canton gets the rebound and calls time out. Canton inbounds the ball brings it down and calls another time out with 20 seconds left. Canton once again inbounds the ball and goes inside but they miss on the drive and the Bears Brandon Williams grabs the rebound and is fouled with 5 seconds left. he misses the 1st hits the 2nd and Canton crosses half court and takes another time out with 2 seconds left. They inbound the ball and miss the field goal attempt and the Bears "Bare"ly hang on to claim a 71-69 final. I know it's a win but it feels like a loss. :o I've either ranked Potsdam too high in my earlier review of the YAC or the Kangaroos have one heck of a team that's a well kept secret. We'll see how the Golden Knights of Clarkson handle them since they play Canton twice in the next 5 days. 

If Oswego hangs on against Lancaster Bible which they should the Yac will go undefeated in the first night of action.   Wonder when the last time that happened if ever.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 10:22:26 PM
And it is a final in Oswego as the Lakers hang on to defeat the Bible school 62-50.

The SUNYAC goes to 5-0 for the young season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2013, 10:27:39 PM
5-0 night.  Hot damn!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2013, 10:57:27 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2013, 10:27:39 PM
5-0 night.  Hot damn!!!!!!! ;)

I knew you'd like that, buddy. ;)


Just got off the phone with Coach Curle. He's in New jersey getting ready for Bridgewater State tomorrow. He's feeling real proud right now as his daughter who is a freshman at Bowdoin started in the very first game of her college career. She had 7 points and a few rebounds in 19 minutes of action. Would have probably played more but had 2 fouls in the 1st 7 minutes of the 1st half and had to go to the bench.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on November 16, 2013, 06:22:29 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2013, 10:57:27 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2013, 10:27:39 PM
5-0 night.  Hot damn!!!!!!! ;)

I knew you'd like that, buddy. ;)


Just got off the phone with Coach Curle. He's in New jersey getting ready for Bridgewater State tomorrow. He's feeling real proud right now as his daughter who is a freshman at Bowdoin started in the very first game of her college career. She had 7 points and a few rebounds in 19 minutes of action. Would have probably played more but had 2 fouls in the 1st 7 minutes of the 1st half and had to go to the bench.

Small world....my nephew is the SID at Bowdoin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2013, 02:51:16 PM
Cortland 61, Medaille 59 in Buffalo

K. McMahon 25pts(10x18fg, 1x3 3s, 4x5ft), 8rebs in 36'....L. Herron 17 pts (6x7ft, 5x13fg), 7reb, 5pf in 32' for Corts. Knotted at 29 at half. Tight throughout. C-St by 7 in second half. TJ Hefele ( 4assts in 33') hits big three late and G. Spendjian adds clutch points down the stretch. Medaille ace J. Coleman (20 pts, 10x11ft) brings host within bucket at 0:05. Steal follows and Medaille misses at 0:02. McMahon fouled and misses at the horn. .......

And, oh, on the gridiron .....Underdog Cortland 28, Ithaca 24 with a TD bomb to J. Babin at 0:67 at IC!! Fourth straight Cortaca victory. Methnks this season best coaching job by Coach Mac in 17 year helmsmanship

Anyone else hate these live stat Sidearm Sports? Don't tell you a heckava lot IMO. Not to mention a $6 video charge at Medaille. We passed ...  In contrast, great IC football video!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2013, 04:10:46 PM
Close win by Cortland. YAC stretches their streak to 6-0. Potsdam Bears up next as they are playing Farmingdale State at the moment in a game that started at 3 PM. The Bears are up 37-30 early in the 2nd half.

jdex,

I agree those  live stats are confusing. Took me a while to figure them out and I much prefer the way it was done before.
Nice win by the Red Dragons in the Cortaca Bowl. Bragging rights till next year! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2013, 04:57:32 PM
Didn't get a chance to do all the SUNYAC picks today. Up late last night and slept in today since it was my birthday. I do hope for a birthday present from my Cardinals though in the form of a win over Bridgewater State in a game that tips off in about 25 minutes.
I think the Cardinals win give me that present with an 86-75 over the Bears.

I'm also hoping that the Buffalo State Bengals remember my birthday and gift wrap a nice 81-77 win over the Cardinals that I'd like them to beat and that's the St John Fisher variety.  Fisher is favored in this contest and it's tough to play them at home at come out of there with a W but I have faith in the Bengals to pull this off tonight.

If Oneonta could somehow come away with the championship of the Rochester Tournament that would be icing on my cake. The Tufts Jumbos will be a challenge for the Red Dragons for sure and the point spread has Oneonta losing by 11. I can't pick the Red Dragons to win here but I hope Zach Mager and Company has another upset in mind. I think it might be a 78-71 final in favor of the Jumbos. Hope I'm wrong.

New Paltz just might make it back to the East Coast with a 2-0 record. Redlands not too happy though as they got pounded last night 98-78 by George Fox College. Odds makers favor the Bulldogs to beat New Paltz by a 10 point margin. Hope the Hawks win this tournament but I see them dropping this game to the host team 84-78.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2013, 05:02:44 PM
SUNYAC unbeaten streak ends as Potsdam can't hold onto thier 2nd half lead and falls to Farmingdale State by a 71-63 final. I didn't get a chance to predict this game but I did tell  thebear in an email early this morning that I thought Potsdam was in trouble today against Farmingdale. Was hoping I was wrong but after that showing the Bears had yesterday against Canton and the fact that Farmingdale beat Clarkson on Friday didn't bode well for Potsdam. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2013, 06:07:10 PM
Plattsburgh State not looking very good in the opening 10 minutes of play against Bridgewater State. The Cardinals couldn't hit the proverbial  broad side of a barn. The Cards miss their first 15 shots from the field and never got a basket until Chris Manning had a steal and a layup at the 11:09 mark of the 1st half. That made the score 12-7 and the Cardinals after looking at a 12-3 deficit finally got their act together. Still a lot of turnovers early on and some defensive lapses that led to several easy inside buckets by the Bears. Coach Curle with some appropriate time outs to right the ship. Shavar Fields came off the bench to give the Cardinals a big boost as he finished the half with 10 points and 4 rebounds to enable Plattsburgh to come back and take a 28-25 lead into the break. Jordan Moody and Manning with 6 points each. Cards need to play better and most importantly shoot better in the 2nd period to put this one in the win column. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats Bridgewater State 78-70 I believe although at one point I saw a 79-70 score on the scoreboard. Live Stats by sidearm sports as jdex mentioned earlier sure do suck. Cards had 4 in double figures, led by Shavar Fields who came off the bench and tossed in17 points while grabbing 8 boards. Shavar was a difference maker today. Nice to see that kind of effort all over the floor from the big guy. Shamoy McIntosh after a slow 1st half (only 1 point) ended up with 15 points and 7 rebounds. John Perez made his return to the hardwood 9 months after a broken leg with another typical John Perez game...10 points, 10 rebounds 4 steals and 3 assists, just another ho hum double double. Welcome back John!!! 8-). Jordan Moody also hit double digits with 12 pts, 3 reb, and 3 assists. Chris "the Flash" Manning scored 6 points had 3 rebounds, 3 assists and oh yeah,  7 steals , taking right up where he left off at the end of last year, leading the nation in steals. I would be willing to wager that he'll repeat that feat again this year. Ed Correa also came off the bench and shot 50% (4x8) to total 9 points, while newcomer Xavier Thomas made his Cardinal debut a success with a 7 point, 5 rebound effort, in only 11 minutes of floor time. 

Cards never fell behind in the second half. They led early on in the 2nd by 2 to 6 points until the Bears finally caught them at 39, with 13 minutes to play. Plattsburgh took over from that point on however as they went on a 21-7 run over the next 6:30 toopen up a 14 point lead at 60-46. Shamoy McIntosh started it with a 3 pointer followed by another 3 from Ed Correa (the only 2 we had) and then John Perez made back to back inside moves to give the Cards a 6 point edge. The rest of the team got in on the act and the Cardinals increased their advantage to 72-55 with 3 minutes left in the game. That 17 point lead was the largest in the game.

Cards won the rebounding battle 40-30 and hard to believe, after opening with an 0-15  start from the field the Cardinals actually outshot the Bears 48.4% to 46.0%. Plattsburgh shot 31x64 from the field but over the last 31 minutes of the game shot 31 for 49 or a 63.3% clip to turn things around. The Bears were 23x50 from the field but hit 7 of 20 from downtown. As mentioned, the Cards only made 2 triples in 16 attempts. Not a good night from long distance. Might have been the way that court is so wide open at each end. Cards not used to that kind of look. Hope they shhot better tomorrow against the host team, Richard Stockton or we'll be headed home with a 1-1 record.

I'm happy though I got my Birthday Present. ;) Hope the Bengals, the Hawks and the boys from Oneonta decide to pile on. 8-) 

Just got another birthday present as I checked the box score from the Bowdoin-Salem State women's game. My favorite woman's hoop player is Coach Curle's daughter, Marle Curle and in her second ever collegiate game she led the Bowdoin Polar Bears to an 81-49 win over the host Vikings to win the Salem State Tip Off Tournament. Marle scored 19 points, had 6 rebounds and 3 assists in 26 minutes of floor time. She was chosen tournament MVP. Great start to her young hoops career.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2013, 08:56:34 PM
Just got a phone call that gave me another birthday present. The Bengals have defeated St. John Fisher. I didn't get a final but it was 60 something to 50 something and was around a 9 point margin. Good job Buff State.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2013, 10:45:55 PM
Follow up phone call giving me specifics of the Buffalo State game. Also the box score is now available on the Buffalo State website.

Final score was 67-59 and the Bengal were led by Rod Epps with 15 pts and 8 rebounds. Justin Mitchell was next with 12 pts and 5 boards. Brad Doyley added 10 pts and 5 rebounds. Freshman Jordan Glover gets the start in his first game as a Bengal and scores 9 pts, with a couple of assists. Jordan was 3x4 from the field and his 3 fg's were all from downtown.  Bengals showing some depth as 9 guys played double digit minutes and 13 players saw action while 12 of them broke into the scoring column.

Fisher was led by Freshman Keegan Ryan as the big guy had a double double in his first collegiate game. He had 16 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks. Saw Keegan play at Beekmantown Central School which is in my community. He'll keep getting better year after year.  No one else for Fisher was in double figs.

Bengals were outrebounded by a couple 39-37, but only had only 9 turnovers to 17 for the Cardinals. Bengals shooting % was a little better from the field and they had 4 three pointers in only 12 attempts while Fisher had 4 3's in 19 attempts.

Good first game for the Bengals. Next up is a game against Medaille, on Tuesday 11-19, in the Mavericks, Sullivan Center. Medaille lost a nail biter today against Cortland and is in for another tough night on Tuesday I think.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2013, 11:23:05 PM

Oneonta tumbles to Tufts 96-78

Fredonia loses to Nazareth 92-62

Oswego beaten by Neumann 69-58

New Paltz up 34-16 at Redlands late in first half in CA
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 12:34:50 AM
Some updates on other Conference teams:

Oneonta lost to Tufts 96-78.  The Jumbos took control of the game midway through the first half with a 22-10 burst that gave them a 31-16 lead that grew to a 20 point edge at the break, 47-27. The lead for the entire 2nd half stayed between 20 to 25 points with the largest grew to 84-57 with 8 minutes left to play. Zach Mager once again led the Red Dragons with 21 pts and 4 rebounds. Jackson Zuvic had 13 pts along with 6 rebounds and Jack Dignan dropped In 12 pts.  No sign of junior point guard former YAC Rookie of the Year (2012) Frankie Kelly in either game this weekend. Hope is, that if it's an injury, it's a minor one.

Oneonta will next host Hamilton on Tuesday the 19th.


Oswego State lost to Neuman 69-58. Daniel Ross  led the Lakers with 28 pts and 10 rebounds. Freshman Brian Sortino had his 1st double figure game as a Laker with 11 pts.

The Lakers will host Ithaca on  Tuesday Nov. 19th

Fredonia State dropped a one sided affair against Nazareth in  the Championship game of the Golden Flyers Tournament. Fredonia hung with  them through the 1st half and they were only down 39-32 at the break. Nazareth outscored the Blue Devils 53-30 in the 2nd period to coast to the win. Tyrone Clark led Fredonia with 20 pts and  Robert Lyles added 10.

Fredonia will travel to Penn State-Behrend on Wed the 20th.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 01:40:52 AM
New Paltz defeats Redands  82-60 to win the Bulldogs'  Tip Off Tournament. The Hawks built a 49-26 halftime lead and coasted to the win from that point. Andrew Seniuk came off the bench to lead the Hawks with 17 points. Taylor Sowah added 16 and Andrew Joseph had 14. Nice to see the Hawks come back east with a 2-0 record. Probably the biggest surprise of opening weekend in the SUNYAC.

New Paltz will be in action again when they host Vassar College on Thursday 11-21.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 03:52:50 AM
YAC teams went 4-4 today after our 5-0 start yesterday. 9-4 on opening weekend so far. My Cardinals have a chance to put us in double figures if they can knock off host Richard Stockton tomorrow at 1:00 PM.

Weekend high points in magicman order:

1. New Paltz going 2-0 on their West Coast trip as they defeat Whittier College and Redlands. Never easy to cross the country and win both games against teams in the SCIAC conference. Redlands was an NCAA participant last year and won both the regular season and tournament championship in the conference. Whittier finished in 3rd place in the conference. Great job by the Hawks to help our SOS.

2. Oneonta's big win over Rochester Friday on the Yellowjackets home court. Red Dragons made the win look rather routine as they led early by a large amount. Plattsburgh went down their 2 years ago and we know how tough trying to come out of there with a win can be.

3. Buffalo State knocking off preseason conference favorite St. John Fisher Saturday evening on the Cardinals home court. That will certainly help the Bengals SOS and the conference as well.

4. Cortland winning a tight one on the road at Medaille 61-59. The Mavericks may not play in the toughest of conferences but they have averaged 21 wins and 7 losses over the past 5 years and have been to the NCAA tournament in 3 of those years and in post season play the other 2 years as well. They have plenty of wins against teams from the tougher East Region conferences. Fortunately this year it won't be Cortland but the Mavericks will look for a measure of revenge as they face Buff State, St. John Fisher and Geneseo  in their next 3 games.

5. Plattsburgh State beating Bridgewater State after playing so poorly for the 1st half of the 1st half. Shooting 0 for 15 is not how you want to start out in the initial game of the season. Credit the coach who took a time out and steadied his team, telling them that the other coach was telling his team how quickly Plattsburgh State was going to turn around that 9 point deficit. The Cardinals then went back on the court and did just that.

6. Fredonia coming back from 12 points down with under 7 minutes left to play against Union and outscoring the Dutchmen by a 29-8 margin in the final 6:28 and win by a score of 98-89. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 17, 2013, 10:55:12 AM
Was impressed with Fredonia this weekend... they are way ahead of schedule. they have a good point guard and 2 good wing players. I think they could be a 7th place team in this league. Oneonta clearly has players after the win against the U of R. This is a league with lot of quality teams. Great 1st weekend!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 12:50:32 PM
Plattsburgh State getting set to tip off against host Richard Stockton in a few minutes. Game time is 1:00 PM. Point spread favors the Jersey Boys by 4 points but I'm hoping my Cardinals come away with the 4 point win, 77-73.  Cards certainly can't start the game as bad as they did yesterday. Lets make it a pleasant trip back home to the North Country. Go Cards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 17, 2013, 12:50:32 PM
Plattsburgh State getting set to tip off against host Richard Stockton in a few minutes. Game time is 1:00 PM. Point spread favors the Jersey Boys by 4 points but I'm hoping my Cardinals come away with the 4 point win, 77-73.  Cards certainly can't start the game as bad as they did yesterday. Lets make it a pleasant trip back home to the North Country. Go Cards.

Great video from Richard Stockton. TV quality. Sounds sucks but...Go CARDS  Yac could finish 10-4 on their first weekend!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2013, 01:32:00 PM
Actually sound is decent. I had the sound on my computer down to 14% :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 01:58:33 PM
Plattsburgh State trails Richard Stockton 39-37 at the half.  Cardinals getting the short end of the whistles. 1 key play was a 3 pointer by Cards Ed Correa, that was disallowed because an offensive foul was called against Shamoy McIntosh who passed the ball to Correa right before he drained the triple. But for that call we'd have the lead. Zebras calling contact on us yet allowing Stockton players to hammer Chris Manning on one play and McIntosh on another with no whistle at all. Hope the calls even out in the 2nd period. A number of Cardinals with 2 or 3 fouls on them. Live stats stopped working with 5:19 left in the half so no accurate halftime totals. McIntosh has at least 14 points to lead the Cards. John Perez and Shavar Fields have 6 each. Perez with a bunch of rebounds at least 8 but could have more. Cards with too many turnovers in the half and too many missed layups as well. Should be leading this game by 6 to 8 points.

Stockton getting some good looks inside as the Cards with defensive lapses leaving people open. Ospreys do have some guys that love to take it to the hoop. In many ways they are a mirror image of Plattsburgh State. Ospreys big guy, Usuwa leads the team with at least 10 points.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2013, 02:03:21 PM
The Moody show to begin the 2nd half. Cards up 44-39!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 02:26:47 PM
Cards lead 63-62 over Stockton with 5:53 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 02:35:32 PM
Plattsburgh down 70-67 with 2:15 left in the game. Stockton just hit 2 big baskets a 3 pointer and a 2 point jumper to take the lead.

John Perez with an inside basket to cut the lead to 70-69 but Stockton comes right back with a basket to regain a 3 point edge. 1:22 left to play.

Stockton up 74-70 and the Cards press on an inbounds pass but the Ospreys break the press and get an easy basket. 76-70 and the Cards come down and throw up a 3 pointer that is an air ball. Stockton will inbounds the ball with 32 seconds to go and this game is over for the Cards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2013, 02:53:06 PM
Tuff 1 for the Cards. Questionable travel call on McIntosh with less than 2 left (he called timeout on his back but ref saw different).

Good video feed however the announcers never knew when they were on camera or off (couple of conversations overheard when announcers thought that they were off air).

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2013, 02:58:32 PM
Final score Richard Stockton 78 Plattsburgh 74. 

I predicted a 77-73 final score but had the Cards on top. Tough loss for the team. We had 5 points taken away by the zebras that would have come in handy.

Shamoy McIntosh led the Cards with 24 points (6x14 fg, 4x9 3's, 7x7 ft) and was the game's high scorer. Shavar Fields once again came off the bench and had a big game with 18 pts, (5x10 fg, 8x10 ft) with 5 rebounds 3 assists and 2 blocks in 29 minutes.  John Perez with another double double of 12 points (5x8 fg, 2x3 ft) and a game high 14 rebounds. Point guard Chris Manning failed to break into the scoring column but played the entire 40 minutes since our backup point guard Mike Mitchell was out this weekend with a sore ankle I think. Chris did manage to put a lot of 5's on the board. He had 5 rebounds, 5 assists, and 5 steals. He had 5 turnovers as well but several of those I attributed to the refs and weren't the fault of Chris. Jordan Moody was just shy of double digits with 9 points on 4x7 from the field. 

Cards had 35 rebounds to 39 for the Ospreys and we had too many turnovers with 19 to their 14. They shot the ball slightly better than the Cards did...27x62 for Stockton (43.5%) to 24x58 (41.4 %) for Plattsburgh. We were a bit better from long distance 7x24 (29.2%) to their 4x16 (25%). The Ospreys were 20x28 from the line (71.4%) while the Cardinals hit 19x24 (79.2%). This is a game the Cardinals should have won despite the officiating (which was not very consistent and favored the host team more than a little). We let it get away with some sloppy play and some defensive lapses that were costly at key moments in the game. In fairness to Stockton they did hit 2 big baskets at key moments with the shot clock winding down. The first was a 3 pointer by James Williams with 4:29 left to play. Shavar Fields had just tied the score at 65 with a pair of free throws at the 5:02 mark. Williams put up his 3 pointer with just 2 seconds left on the shot clock to regain the lead that the Ospreys would never give up. On the Cardinals next possession Shamoy McIntosh was fouled and he knocked down a pair  from the line to make it  68-67. Both teams missed opportunities on their next 2 possessions and then the Cards had a nice defensive stand end in frustration when Stockton's Jesse Hunt hit a jumper just as the shot clock was set to expire to make it 70-67 with 2:33 to go. Perez cut the lead back to a single point but Hunt came right back with another jumper. Down by 3 the Cards needed to score but came up empty on their next attempt. That led to a Cardinal foul and the Ospreys hit both free throws to make it a 2 possession game at 74-69 and that pretty much ended the Card's hopes.

Stockton was led Kevin Johnson with 16 points. Rameel Johnson (not related to Kevin) added 12 points and 10 rebounds.

Plattsburgh State returns to action on Tuesday night 11-19 as they will host St. Lawrence at 8:00 PM in Memorial Hall.

SUNYAC record is 9-5 after the opening weekend.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on November 18, 2013, 01:56:53 PM
Plattsburgh and Buff State looked very impressive to me this past weekend. Some impressive results from SUNYAC teams as well. Looks to be a very good year for Upstate basketball this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2013, 02:53:59 PM
+1!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2013, 03:33:29 AM
Zach Mager captures the 1st SUNYAC Player of the Week award for his play in the University of Rochester Tournament this past weekend. No surprise there. Zach had 31 points against U of R as they won that game by a score of 95-80. He followed that up with a  21 point effort against Tufts in a game the Red Dragons lost. Nice start to his junior season.


Some other noteworthy opening weekend performances in no particular order:

Taylor Sowah leads New Paltz to a 2-0 west coast trip scoring 15 against Whittier and 16 against Redlands.

Robert Lyles helps Fredonia to a 1-1 weekend as he pours in 32 pts and grabs 8 boards in a win over Union. He also has double figures in his next game scoring 10 pts in a loss to Nazareth.

Daniel Ross  scored 21 pts as Oswego State gets a win against Lancaster Bible and 28 pts in a loss to Neuman College. He also posted 2 double doubles as he had 10 boards in each game.

Rod Epps led Buffalo State to a win over St John Fisher as he scored 15 pts and had 8 rebounds in the Bengals only action.

Kevin McMahon has 25 pts and 8 rebounds as Cortland defeats Medaille 61-59 in the Red Dragons only game over the weekend.

Last but certainly not least 3 performances by my Cardinals:

Shavar Fields scored 35 points (17 + 18) in 2 games, coming off the bench both times for Plattsburgh, in a 1-1 weekend down in New Jersey against Bridgewater State (a 78-70 win) and Richard Stockton (a 78-74 loss). He also had a total of 13 rebounds (8 + 5).

John Perez returned to the hardwood for his first 2 games since an injury last season in early February. John had a double double in both games as he had 10 pts and 10 rebounds against Bridgewater St, then scored 12 pts with 14 rebounds against Stockton.

Shamoy McIntosh, the Cards leading scorer from last season, continued where he left off, as he scored 15 points with 7 rebounds against Bridgewater St and came back the next afternoon with 24 pts to lead all scorers, against Richard Stockton.   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2013, 04:50:13 AM
Games on tap for Tuesday Nov. 19th.

Live Stats and video are available where noted. Sometimes there are links off the D3hoops scoreboard, or off the home teams website on their home page or their schedule, or from the Men's basketball page on the  SUNYAC website.
 
   
Buffalo State  @    Medaille      6:00 PM  Live Stats and Video available   D3hoops shows this as a 7 PM start but both teams show it as
                                                                                                         6 PM start on their websites.

Ithaca  @  Oswego State     7:00 PM      Live Stats and Video available 
   
Elmira  @    Cortland State      8:00 PM      Live Stats and Video available
   
Hamilton  @    Oneonta State      8:00 PM   Live Stats and Video available
   
St. Lawrence   @   Plattsburgh State  8:00 PM   Live Stats and Video available 
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2013, 06:41:41 PM
Tonight's action:



Buffalo State  @    Medaille      6:00 PM  Live Stats and Video available   D3hoops shows this as a 7 PM start but both teams show it as
                                                                                                         6 PM start on their websites.

The Bengals travel crosstown to take on the Medaille Mavericks in their 3rd meeting since the 2006-07 season. Buffalo State has won the 2 previous meeting and I think they will make it 3 in a row tonight. Mavericks do have a big guy, 6'8" Sean Bellomo that could prove to be a tough matchup for the Bengals, and they do return guard Jammal Coleman, who torched the Bengals for 25 points in last year's contest. The oddsmakers have made Medaille a 1 point favorite and they played Cortland tough on Saturday in a down to the wire thriller that saw the Red Dragons win 61-59.  However Rod Epps and Justin Mitchell will be too much for Medaille too handle. I think the Bengals will outrun these Mavericks and come away with an 81-72 win.

Ithaca  @  Oswego State     7:00 PM      Live Stats and Video available

This should be another tight contest between 2 teams that have faced each other for the past 3 years. The Bombers have been on the short end of the score for each of those contests. The Bombers lost a lot of talent from last year's team that made it to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament but the Lakers also graduated 3 starters including SUNYAC POY Hayden Ward. Oddsmakers have the Lakers favored by a slim 2 points but it wouldn't surprise me to see Ithaca finally get a win in this series. I hope the Lakers can win one for the conference. I'll go with them to prevail 68-65.   
   
Elmira  @    Cortland State      8:00 PM      Live Stats and Video available

Elmira, the perennial doormat of the Empire 8 League, almost upset Cortland last year in Elmira on opening day of the season bowing to the eventual SUNYAC champs 63-60. They have lost their first 2 games of this season but only by a 6 point margin to last year's Sweet 16 team Morrisville State, 81-75. Their other loss was a 2 point setback to Drew University. The Red Dragons are not nearly the same team as last year's version and shouldn't take the Soaring Eagles lightly. The pointspread has Cortland favored by 21 but I'll be surprised if the Red Dragons win it that easily. I think they'll win but it'll be more like  75-67.     
   
Hamilton  @    Oneonta State      8:00 PM   Live Stats and Video available

Hamilton and Oneonta should be another close game. THe pointspread has Oneonta favored by 4 points. I think a 74-70 Red Dragon final would be just about right.
   
St. Lawrence   @   Plattsburgh State  8:00 PM   Live Stats and Video available

Cardinals and Saints renew their North Country rivalry and the Saints are looking to turn around their recent fortunes against Plattsburgh. Cardinals have won the past 4 meetings and 5 of the last 6. Last year Plattsburgh won in Canton 84-68. Cards return most of that team, Saints return most of their squad as well. Pointspread favors the Cardinals by 11 and I can't argue with that. Plattsburgh could be tired from a long trip back from New Jersey that had them arriving home in late Sunday night. Cards also may be a bit shorthanded with some injuries. Still think they win by a margin of 86-74. 
 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 19, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
Oswego State up 64-34 at half.. Lakers shooting the lights out. Bombers can figure out how to play there matchup 3-2 zone
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
Cortland downs Elmira 63-51. Holds 28-16 margin at intermission as Elmirans scoreless for over five minutes against stifling RDragon defensive work. Corts hike lead to 17 in the final period before SEagles find some attacking zip and get within 56-48. CSt's L. Herron nets a free throw and hoop to halt guests' momentum. G. Spendjian off Cortland sideline for 18 pts, 8 rebs. Hits half of 12 from the field. TJ Hefele directs the offense and scores 11 pts with 3 assts before fouling out at 2:06. L. Herron with 11 pts, 3 assts; B. Estarfaa 11 pts(3x6 3s); K. McMahon 13 rebs, 7 pts(1x7fg). Elmiran N. Randolph 14 pts, 7 rebs. Dragons with just 5 turnovers, Elmira 15 but Eagles hold 43-33 board edge. Corts 2-0, Elmira 0-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
Tonight's Scores

Cortland defeats Elmira 63-51           Had the Red Dragons 75-67. Looks like both teams had off shooting nights as they combined 
                                                       to go 34x99 from the field.

Buffalo State gets by a tough Medaille team 87-82 in a high scoring affair.   I had this 81-72  Bengals

Oswego dominates Ithaca as the Lakers cruise 99-73     I went with the Lakers 68-65.  Surprised by the outcome

Oneonta drops a tough 87-84 contest to Hamilton.   My only loss and from the looks of the play by play Oneonta let this one get away
                                                                            I had it 74-70 Oneonta

Plattsburgh defeats St. Lawrence 82-69.  Close to my prediction,which was a Cardinal win 86-74. It was the 60% free throw shooting 
                                                              from both teams that did me in. Between them they missed 19 foul shots.

Went 4-1 with my picks only missing the Oneonta game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2013, 10:56:15 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats St.Lawrence 82-69.

Big night for John Perez with his 3rd straight double double. John captured scoring honors with a game high19 points and was the leading rebounder as well, grabbing 14 boards. John did most of his damage in the 2nd half with 14 points and 9 rebounds after intermission. John was 6x12 from the field and 7x8 from the line in 26 minutes of floor time. Chris Manning had maybe his best offensive output as a Cardinal as he scored 16 points, on 5x7 shooting from the field and 3x5 from downtown. He had the dreaded 666 number also tonight. 6 rebounds, 6 assists, and 6 steals. Last game he was stuck on 555 for the same categories. Ed Correa started for the first time in a Cardinal uniform and had 13 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal in 26 minutes. Ed was 5x11 from the field and 3x8 from behind the arc. Cardinals were 28x59 from the field (47.5%), 9x24 from downtown (37.5%) and 17x28 from the line (60.7%)
They lost the rebounding war 40-36 but SLU had 23 turnovers to only 15 for Plattsburgh.

St. Lawrence was led by Kyle Kobis and Brady Condlin who both connected for 15 points. Kobis had 6  boards and Condlin had 5. Kyle Edwards added 11 points, while Janpeter Brase just missed a double double with 11 rebounds and 8 points. Saints shot 25x60 (41.7%) 7x22 3's (31.8%) and 12x20 from the stripe (60%).

Saints fall to 1-2 and are back in action on Friday as they host Oswego State in their 2nd of 4 straight games against SUNYAC opponents. They host Brockport State on Saturday and end their sojourn into the YAC when they host Potsdam State on December 3rd. They played the same 4 teams last year and went 0-4. I think the best they do this year is 1-3.

Cards improve to 2-1 on the young season and will be off until December 3rd when they host Keene State from the Little East Conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2013, 12:25:29 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
Tonight's Scores
Buffalo State gets by a tough Medaille team 87-82 in a high scoring affair.   I had this 81-72  Bengals

Yes they did Magic 1 but that doesn't quite tell the tell.

The game and atmosphere was "Electric" in a Packed house. I haven't seen a crowd like this since the BENGALS clinched the SUNYACs at Brockport in 2011. If you have never been to Medaille's gym then picture 400 plus folks in a box of a gym where over 150 people are standing on a oval track directly above the court because there are no more seats available on the floor.

Picture a game which saw the lead change hands at least a dozen times over the first 30 mins (tied at the half too). With less than 9 mins left in the game and the BENGALS down 62-59 is the point that the game changed. The BENGALS scored the next 16 points in a row. The rest was history. The veterans showed real leadership today. Justin Mitchell played like.....Justin Mitchell (21 pts and 10 boards) Rod "Gets No Respect" Epps played like.......Rod "GNR" Epps (18 pts and 2 boards). I cant forget Brad Doyleys' 16pts and Maurice Miles 7 pts and 3 boards (including a game changing 3 pt play that gave the BENGALS a lead that they would never relinquish. ). Did I mention Chris "Caz" Castren who stood in for starting center , Chris Thompson (who couldn't attend the game tonite because of a family emergency), and played well enough to help hold 6' 8 behemoth Bellemo below his season average. Oh and I can't forget Freshman Johnathon Belton also started in place of  injured 2 guard Jordan Glover and added 4 pts and 4 boards. Add in newcomer-transfer Legree "Lex" Kirkland. All he did was get nearly a double-double with 14 pts and 8 boards. And he blocked 2 of Bellomo's shots. Heck I could also tell you of the contributions of Chris Boyd, Rey Jordan, Lovelle Smith and Jovohn Owens but then I would miss my bedtime ;D

1 helluva a game folks...1 Helluva game. I got in free because I know 1 of the coaches  (a friend of Magicmans) but that game was worth any price that Medaille charged to get in... Any! Heck if they had a tip jar at the entrance when I left, I would have stuck a 5 spot in it for good service.

A nail biter at St John Fisher on Saturday and now this 3 days later? ???  I better get some rest before Ohio Northern comes to town Friday for the BENGALS home opener.

What's the SUNYAC record now? 13-6? This conference is establishing 1 hell of a resume (if you ask me). Consider the following facts when deciding who gets multiple invites in Feb.......

Oswego beats "Sweet 16" Ithaca by 26?? 

Oneonta goes to NCAA 2nd round participant U of Rochester and hammers them by 15??

Plattsburgh goes into Richard Stockton (last year ranked and ECAC tourney finalist) and loses by 4 after a controversial travel call against the Cardinals while the player laid on his back calling timeout (1 ref wanted to give him the timeout and the other called travelling.. I watched the game.)

New Paltz goes out west and sweep 2? The 2nd victory being against the University of Redlands and yes they, Redlands, made the NCAAs last year also!

Potsdam gives 20 win Farmingdale all they can handle in their championship game this past weekend! Massey said that they should have lost by 29.

Did mention Buff State beating St John Fisher at St John Fisher? True no NCAA's last year for the Cards, but they were just voted the E 8 "most likely to succeed" a.k.a. Pre season favorite in the Empire 8 this year by their coaches and SID's.  The 'YAC is gonna be something special this year. I can feel it! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2013, 12:36:25 AM
SUNYAC improves to 13-6 on our non-conference log.

Massey's Ratings now show the SUNYAC to be the 10th toughest conference in the country as we've moved up 5 spots from our previous ranking of 15

Two of the biggest movers on the team rankings were New Paltz who jumped 122 places from #183 to #61. They are now the 2nd highest ranked SUNYAC team jumping over a number of other teams. Oneonta moved up 144 spots,  as they are now ranked 139 instead of 283.  Brockport and Geneseo moved up and didn't even play. Buffalo State is still ranked behind St. John Fisher as the results of their game hasn't been updated yet. That and the results from tonight will move the YAC up a bit more as they get factored in.

Don't know if we can hold onto that ranking as a conference with some traditionally weak teams coming up in the OOC schedules. Hopefully none of the cupcakes will pull an upset against a YAC team along the lines of Southern Vermont's shocking upset of Williams on opening night. That sent Williams tumbling in Massey's rankings  from #9 to #75.

Current Massey Ratings for SUNYAC Teams.  Note that these change daily sometimes except perhaps on weekends.  What I'm listing as of tonight could be different in the morning.

#21    Cortland

#61    New Paltz

#69    Plattsburgh State

#85    Geneseo State

#87    Brockport State

#121  Buffalo State

#139  Oneonta State

#152  Oswego State

#229  Fredonia State

#269  Potsdam State

Some other East Region Teams as a point of Reference:  Oh what to heck I did them all. ;D That way I can see the movement by just coming back to this page since Massey's + or - isn't cumulative and only lasts a day or two. For instance: A week ago Plattsburgh was a +16 having moved even before they played a game, based on other teams playing exhibtion games that Massey was tracking. They were in the mid 80's when the ratings first came out. They moved to #68 down to #67 and now they are at #69 with a -2. Tomorrow they could be at 66 with a +3. By posting this rating of all the East teams I'll be able to have a better idea of the movement since the start of the season as time goes by. Right now some of these rankings are positively off the wall and will change drastically. I'll be surprised if Cortland can hang onto the top postion in the East. I think NYU might drop down as well. Other YAC teams will take a tumble as well. However a team like Buffalo State could move up I believe. It will be intersting to look at the changes a few weeks down the road and then a few weeks after that and so on.

#56     NYU
#65     Nazareth
#72     Hobart
#96     St. John Fisher
#124   Stevens Tech
#135   Ithaca             The Bombers ranking will be in the 160 to 170 range after tonight's loss to Oswego is factored in I'm guessing.
#138   Rochester
#143   Skidmore
#149   Hartwick
#159   Hilbert
#179   Clarkson
#188   Hamilton      They will rise after the win against higher ranked Oneonta
#190   RIT
#198   Medaille
#205   Morrisville State   They have already dropped considerably from the opening bell
#216   Sage
#228   Utica College
#246   St Lawrence
#277   Bard
#287   Alfred
#297   Union
#300   Vassar
#301   RPI
#304   Wells
#333   Elmira
#366   Keuka
#368   SUNYIT
#387   Cazenovia
#389   Cobleskill
#390   Houghton
#393   D'Youville
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2013, 11:57:13 PM
I must be getting old. :(  I never checked to see if my post about today's games was transmitted to this board without any problems. Apparently it wasn't, since I don't see it anywhere. There were 2 SUNYAC teams in action today and just this minute discovered that my write-up showing Geneseo State was hosting Morrisville State and that Fredonia was at Penn State-Behrend must be somewhere in never-never land.  That's what happens when you still have a dial up connection
 
Geneseo  defeats Morrisville State 89-82       I would have predicted this to be an 81-76 Geneseo victory.  I came close.


Fredonia loses 76-46 to Penn State-Behrend.   I had the Blue Devils on the short end of a 72-64 loss. Honest I did.

Details to follow.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2013, 04:45:11 AM
Geneseo 89 #20 Morrisville State 82

Several regular posters on this board were well aware that the preseason ranking the Mustangs received was a bit lofty. It was basically due to their finish in last year's NCAA tournament. I'll be surprised if they stay in the rankings when the new ones come out and don't expect them to make another appearance the remainder of the year. That doesn't take away from the fact that they are a decent team but the loss of both starting forwards from last year's squad will make a difference and they will be hard pressed to come close to their success of a year ago. If they were in the SUNYAC conference this year I don't think they would finish any higher than 5th or 6th place, tops, but certainly capable of pulling off an upset down the road.

The Blue Knights and Mustangs had a tight first half with 2 ties and 6 lead changes that ultimately saw Geneseo head into the break with a 42-39 advantage. Geneseo came out of the break on fire. 5:29 into the 2nd half, 4 of their 5 starters had scored 8, 5, 5,and 4 points for a 22-9 run to open up a 64-48 lead with 14:31 to go. Morrisville did come back and managed to cut the lead to single digits by the 10:29 mark. They slowly chipped away at the Blue Knights lead until a  3 pointer by the Mustangs made in 78-74 with 3;52 left to play. Geneseo's Matt Curry delivered a dagger however when he made a 3 pointer of his own with 1 second left on the shot clock to restore the lead to 7 points with 3:18 to go. The Knight's got it back to double digits at 88-77 and a 3 pointer at the buzzer by the Mustangs cut the margin to single digits.

Geneseo was led by Gordon Lyons with 22 pts and 9 rebounds. Andy Drescher scored 15 points, while James McKenna came off the bench with 14 pts, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and 2 steals. Jordan Jones and Matt Curry both added 12 pts, with Jones grabbing 9 rebounds along with 4 assists. A solid team effort for Geneseo.

Blue Knights outshot the visitors from the field and from long distance but Mo'ville had the edge, percentage wise, at the foul line. The Mustangs also won the rebounding battle 48 to 34, which usually results in a W but Geneseo took good care of the ball and only had 5 turnovers to 14 for thr Mustangs. Both teams actually scored 67 points from the field. The game was won at the charity stripe. Geneseo  made 22 of 34 free throws (only 64.7%). The Mustangs shot 88.2% from the line but only had 17 attempts, making 15 of those.

The Mustangs were led by Jordan Prior with 23 pts and 6 boards. Brandon Hanks had 17pts pts and 8 rebounds while Tom Wilk added 13 pts along with 9 rebounds.

Geneseo will play their 2nd game of the season on Monday Nov. 25th when they visit Medaille.       

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2013, 06:56:18 AM
Fredonia 46  Penn State-Behrend 76.

This game was actually much closer than the score indicates for about 31 of the 40 minutes. Behrend hopped on the Blue Devils right out of the gate as they opened up with a 16-2 run and had a 21-6 lead with only 7 minutes gone in the half. Freds fought back though and twice closed to within 3 points at 26-23 and 29-26 but an 8-0 run to end the half put the Lions up 37-26 at the break. The Blue Devils came out of the locker room and actually played slightly better than the Lions through the first 7 minutes of the 2nd period. They were down 48-41 with 13:12 to go, but from that point on nothing good happened for The Blue Devils. They proceed to miss 13 of their final 14 shots (the only one they made was a dunk), shot 3 for 12 from the free throw line, had 3 turnovers, and were called for a technical foul that resulted in 2 free throws and a 3 pointer on the possession for the Lions. They were outscored 27-5 over the final 12 minutes of the game. The Lions aren't a bad team and did make the NCAA tournament last year (20-9 overall) as they beat Medaille to win the automatic bid from the AMCC conference. They lost a few players from that team but also returned 7 players from last year's rotation. It's never good to lose to a team from the low ranked AMCC conference (38th out of 44) but at least it was one of the better teams in that conference.

Fredonia was led by Tyrone Clark with 20 points on 7x13 shooting (3x7 3's, 3-6 ft). Ray Parris was next high scorer with 9 points. The Blue Devils shot 16x47 from the field (34%), 7x17 3's (41.2%) and 7x20 (35%) from the stripe.

Fredonia falls to 1-2 on the season and up next they will travel to Elmira to face the Soaring Eagles on Sunday Nov.23rd at 2:00 PM.

The SUNYAC is now 14-7 against non-conference opponents. That's a .666 win percentage. I'd like to keep that up. 8-) We need to win around 45 games out of the 68-70 non conference games we'll end up playing to maintain that win percentage.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2013, 10:48:29 AM
SUNYAC 14...Rest of the country 7! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2013, 11:31:31 AM
Did you know?  Last year on this date the Sunyac record was 11-9 in OOC games?
Currently 3 more wins and 2 less loses at the same point this year(14-7). I believe the 'Yac can have 30 OOC wins before Jan 10th!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on November 21, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
Happy basketball season everyone. Nice to see everyone back in full posting action.

Hawks have home opener vs. Vassar College tonight. Looking forward to seeing them live after the great Cali trip. Very different team this year without Devine and Taylor - but from what little I've seen - I like the way box scores have looked. Rejniak seems to have recruited depth over a single superstar...some intriguing freshman to keep an eye on - Andrew Seniuk and Kewan Beebe.

Great to have shooter Nick Taldi back and Sowah is looking to have his breakout year.

Don't see last year's ROY on the roster...wondering where big man Devino McCrae is? Wondering how the Hawks will fare without McCrae under the boards.

Vassar went 1-1 on opening weekend and have a new coach...we won by a fairly large margin last year but gotta watch out for sophomore Mrlik...he's avg. 20.5 ppg.

Looks like this is the only game in the 'YAC tonight...Go Hawks - Go SUNYAC!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2013, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: hawkball on November 21, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
Happy basketball season everyone. Nice to see everyone back in full posting action.
Don't see last year's ROY on the roster...wondering where big man Devino McCrae is? Wondering how the Hawks will fare without McCrae under the boards.

Damn Hawk. I was hoping that you could tell us what happened to devino McCrae?!?!

Welcome back. We haven't heard from you since Feb 12th. Hope to see you more often this season! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2013, 04:34:55 PM
Tonight has just the 1 game on tap.

Vassar College at New Paltz State  6:00 PM

New Paltz has won 4 straight games in this series while the Brewers had back to back wins in 2006 and 2007. The Hawks have only 1 starter back from last year's team that defeated Vassar 74-58 and those 4 starters combined for 46 of the Hawks' points in that game.
Vassar returns 7 of the top 8 guys from last year's rotation plus they regain the services of Johnny Mrlik who led the team in scoring during the 2011-12 season with 322 points. Mrlik, a 6'4" guard/forward, missed last season but is currently leading the team in scoring once again with a 20.5 average through the first 2 games. Apparently he wasn't in school last year as he is only listed as a sophomore on this year's roster. On paper they should win this game because of their experience but the Hawks appear to have reloaded and are sporting what looks like a solid 9 man rotation. I have to think the quality of the opponents that New Paltz faced on their 2-0 California trip is somewhat better than the 2 New England teams that the Brewers faced last weekend. A 65-62 loss to Clark was followed up by a win over Roger Williams by a 71-61 margin. Roger Williams has a Massey rating of #392, near the bottom of the D3 ladder. They may be the weakest team Vassar will play all year. The point spread has the Hawks favored by 13 points, however a rivalry game can bring out the best in the dogs, so you can't count the Brewers out of this one. Just look at last year when last place Vassar beat St Lawrence twice to keep the Saints out of the Liberty League playoffs. Just the same I like the Hawks at home and see them winning by a 76-67 score. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2013, 06:48:04 PM
New Paltz on the short end of a 31-28 halftime score against Vassar College. Hawks have taken over 50% of their shots from behind the arc and have only made 2 of 14 attempts.  Vassar has attempted 17 shots from downtown (out of 24 attempts from the field) and  hit 7 of them. That's the story of this game so far. Taylor Sowah with 9 points leads the Hawks., and Kevin Roach has 6. Erikson Wasyl scores 9 for the Brewers. Johnny Mrlik andCurtis Smith both have 6 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2013, 10:10:35 PM
Well, I could see it happening but hoped that it wouldn't. Vassar College took it to the Hawks tonight in Hawk Center and came away with a 73-61 win that was a bit of payback after 4 straight losses to the boys from the YAC. Unfortunately for New Paltz they fell behind early in the 2nd half and though they stayed close, could never gain the lead.  Then with the Brewers in the lead 46-44 with 11:28 to play, Vassar got a triple from Erikson Wasyl, a jumper from Luka Ladan, another triple from Johnny Mrlik, 2 free throws from Andrew Adkins, and a layup by Mrlik to boost the margin to 58-44 with 7:43 left to play. Victory cigars were set ablaze as this game was over. The closest New Paltz could get was 10 points and they were down 73-58 when the Hawks' Joe Tino hit a triple at the buzzer to narrow the final margin to the 12 point MOV.

Vassar was led by the guy I was afraid of Johnny Mrlik, who claimed scoring honors by tossing in 21 pts,  and also was the game's top rebounder with 9 rebounds. I should probably mention that he led everyone with 7 assists as well. He also had 1 block, 2 steals and played nearly the entire game as he logged 38 minutes. He was 7x16 from the field with 4 three pointers. Looks like the Hawks just had no answer for him. He did get lots of help though as 3 other players had double figures. Wasyl had 16 pts, Curtis Smith had 15 pts and Ladan scored 13 pts  with 5 boards. Big difference in this game was the 3 point shooting as the Brewers went 13 x28 while the Hawks were only 7x20.

New Paltz was led by Taylor Sowah with 15 pts and Nick Taldi with 14 pts. Taldi had 4 of the Hawks 7 triples, while Taylor and Kevin Roach (8 pts) each hauled down 7 rebounds.

Hawks were outshot, and had 11 turnovers to 8 for the Brewers. Hawks had 33 rebounds to 30 for Vassar. New Paltz only managed 9 assists in the game while Vassar had 16.

Vassar improves to 2-1 and will host Western Connecticut next Tuesday Nov.26th at 7:00 PM

New Paltz, now 2-1, will need a quick refresher course in run and gun, as Delaware Valley comes to Hawk Center on Saturday Nov 23rd at 4:00 PM. The Aggies are averaging over 95 ppg and already own a pair of wins against perennial New Jersey Athletic Conference powers, Rowan 102-94 and Ramapo 92-83. :o  Good luck with that one Hawks.

The YAC is now 14-8 but this loss against a Massey ranked  #300 team will hurt the Hawks and the conference 's SOS. Hopefully Vassar continues to surprise and moves up the pecking order in the Liberty League.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2013, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2013, 11:31:31 AM
Did you know?  Last year on this date the Sunyac record was 11-9 in OOC games?
Currently 3 more wins and 2 less loses at the same point this year(14-7). I believe the 'Yac can have 30 OOC wins before Jan 10th!

Jinx ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 07:10:39 AM
The Massey Ratings were updated overnight and the top 13 teams in the East Region are:

#20   Cortland State

#41   Plattsburgh State

#42   Hobart

#47   NYU

#58   Nazareth

#76 Geneseo State

#88  Brockport State

#91  St. John Fisher

#94  Oswego State

#110 Stevens Tech

#117 Buffalo State

#119 Skidmore

#124 New Paltz




Massey still shows a number of teams with no games played, such as Buffalo State and St. John Fisher. Not sure why some teams W-L records aren't being updated. The Bengals have moved up 15 spots from their initial ranking, going from #132 to #117 and should move up even further once their schedule is updated. Geneseo which started the season at #105 and had moved to #85 before even playing a game, played on Wednesday night for the 1st time. The win over Medaille boosted them another 9 spots as they now check in at #76. So their game is updated very quickly, yet Buffalo State has played 2 games before Geneseo even took the floor and they are still listed with a 0-0 W-L record, and so is St. John Fisher.   

Of note:

Seven of the top 13 teams are from the YAC. 

Vassar's win over New Paltz last night vaulted the Brewers from #300 to #181.They started the season at #354 and have gained 173 spots since then. New Paltz fell from #61 to #124. That is still 59 placements better than they opened the season with (#183) but a drop of 63 spots because of the loss to Vassar. Amazing what 1 loss to a low ranked team can do and vice versa
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 22, 2013, 12:04:14 PM
Magicman.   Who do we need to see at Massey about the neglect that they have been showing my beloved BENGALS? Do ur thing puhleeeese!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on November 22, 2013, 01:51:50 PM
Hawks looked pretty unimpressive last night. No defense against the screen - hence all the 3ptrs and absolutely no ball movement.

Nothing from Sowah or Andrew Joseph last night...need starters to step-up if we're going to compete! Vassar seems completely reenergized with new coach - they could be very good in their conference.

Heard at the game last night McCrae is out this season due to family issues...sure missed him last night!

Have Delaware Valley this weekend - haven't done much to scout them - but they were another NCAA team. Hopefully Hawks can step up to the challenge!

Tough to see those Massey ratings drop. Oh well! It's still early!  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 22, 2013, 03:06:03 PM
Even though its nice to see teams get some attention for the Massey Ratings. These Ratings are so inaccurate at this time of the season with only 2-4 games played. NCAA who picks the Bracket for the NCAA D3 Tournament DOESNT look at the Massey Ratings.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 22, 2013, 03:06:03 PM
Even though its nice to see teams get some attention for the Massey Ratings. These Ratings are so inaccurate at this time of the season with only 2-4 games played. NCAA who picks the Bracket for the NCAA D3 Tournament DOESNT look at the Massey Ratings.

The NCAA at large selections are chosen based on the regional rankings. :o  We know that...as do most of the posters on this board, the E8 board, and the Liberty League board, we've been at this a lot longer than you have. ;) And you know for a fact, I'm sure, that none of the NCAA committee members ever take a peek at the Massey Ratings? Because I happen to know for a fact that members of the committee do look at the Massey ratings. It's another bit of information that's out there that helps sort out the D3 landscape. Obviously it's early in the year and the ratings have yet to get hashed out but the good thing about Mr. Massey's rankings is that every school gets listed, not just the Top 25 to 40 programs, and you can track the upward mobility (or downward movement) of your favorite D3 school and conference,  throughout the year regardless of how good or bad they are. I seem to remember that you were pretty excited when you first learned about the Massey rankings last year from some of my posts that were made at that time. ;D As I stated in my post of Nov. 20th I put the rankings of the East teams out there so we can see their movement as the season progresses.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 07:20:23 PM
Two games on tap for tonight: Had both games written up with team reviews but just lost my article as I tried to post it. Only predictions now.


Oswego State at St Lawrence

Saints have played the Lakers tough winning 2 of the past 3 games in this series and 5 of the last 7. Oddsmakers have the Lakers favored by 3 but I think the Saints, who return just about every one from last year's squad, will win a close one here 71-68. Hope I'm wrong and this score is reversed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 07:50:50 PM
Ohio Northern at Buffalo State 8:00 PM

Bengals are hosting their Coles Classic Tournament this weekend and will face two teams from the Ohio Athletic Conference. Tonight they will take on the Polar Bears from Ohio Northern and tomorrow afternoon will face off against the John Carroll Blue Streaks.
The 4th team in the tournament is Johnson & Wales (RI) who will play the same two teams that the Bengals play.

Ohio Northern is coming off a mediocre season that ended with a 13-14 won lost record but the good news is they return 4 starters and 6 of the top 7 players in their rotation. They will be a tough out for the Bengals. Buffalo State also did not have ballyhooed new face Chris Thompson in the lineup last game against Medaille. I don't know if he returns tonight or not. The oddsmakers have made Buff State a slim 3 point favorite and I think this will come down to the wire as well. Hope the Bengals can keep that zero in their won-lost record but an Ohio Northern win here is highly possible. I'll stick with the big cats though and pick the Bengals to win this one 85-81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
Oswego State leads St. Lawrence 41-36 at the half.

Saints grabbed the early lead and held it by as much as 9 points at 19-10 with 11 minutes left in the period. They were still up by 8 at 25-17 with 8 minutes to go when the Lakers mounted a comeback and outscored the Saints with a 7-0 run to make it a 1 point affair. A Daniel Ross steal and resulting layup finally gave the Oswego its' first lead at 31-30 with 3:36 to go. Another basket and 2 Laker free throws boosted the lead to 5 and the Lakers maintained that advantage till the buzzer.

Mark Candelario leads the Lakers with 12 points on a perfect 6 for 6 from the field. Kyle Covley is next with 10 points, while Brian Sortino has 9 and Ross tossed in 8.

Brady Condlin leads the Saints with 13 on 5 for 7 shooting and Kyle Edwards has 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 08:30:11 PM
St. Lawrence has reversed an early 7 point 2nd half deficit and now lead the Lakers by a 68-62 score with 5 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 08:44:55 PM
Barnburner in Canton as the Saints and the Lakers are tied at 75 with 40 seconds left to play. Lakers with the ball coming out of an SLU timeout.


Lakers score with 1 second on the shot clock and 6 seconds left to play. Saints quickly come down and Saints Payton Stahler is fouled and injured going to the hoop with 2 seconds left.. Stahler is tended to and goes to the bench unable to shoot the free throws. Oswego's Coach Leone gets to choose the free throw shooter from the Saints team to replace Stahler at the line. He decides on Janpeter Brase who hasn't made one from the line tonight going 0 for 3. He makes the 1st attempt and Oswego calls a time out. After the TO Brase calmly steps up and makes the 2nd to send it to overtime.

Saints score 1st in the extra session and now lead 79-77. Lakers Alex Rawa is fouled and makes them both to tie the score with 2:48 to go.

SLU turned it over and Oswego missed a shot, got the rebound and Rawa hits a 3 pointer to put the Lakers up 82-79. Saints' Brase makes a layup to bring the them within a point but Brase commits a foul on the Laker possession and Brian Sortino puts Oswego up 84-81. Saints miss on a 3 point attempt with 1:16 to play and the Lakers come down use some clock. With the shot clock set to expire, Kyle Covely puts the dagger in the Saints heart, as he hits a 3 pointer with 41 seconds to go, boosting the score to 87-81. Saints miss and have to foul enabling Sortino to knock down 2 more free throws. After back to back SLU misses the Lakers Ross is fouled and makes 1 of 2 to make it 90-81. Saints get a 3 pointer as time runs out for the final of 90-84. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 09:16:03 PM
Buffalo State will need to rally against Ohio Northern as they trail the Polar Bears 68-57 with 9:29 left to play. Bengals were down at the half by those same 11 points 42-31. Even play so far in the 2nd but that won't get the job done. Let's GO Bengals.

Bengals still down 76-67 with 4 minutes to go.

Bengals cut it to a 4 point lead at 77-73 on 2 free throws by Brad Doyley. 1:41 left to go. Still time!!!

Doyley with a steal and is fouled with 47 seconds to go. He makes them both, only down 2 points.

Jordan Glover steals the inbounds pass, I think, and feeds Justin Mitchell for the tying layup. Tied at 77 with 44 seconds to go and a time out by the Polar Bears. Bengals run off 8 straight points in about 1 minute and 40 seconds.

Ohio Northern scores out of that time out on a layup with 20 seconds left to play to take a 79-77  lead. Bengals come down and work the ball for the tying or winning shot but come up empty with 4 seconds left and Ohio Northern grabs the rebound. Good effort coming back from 14 down, with under 10 minutes to go, by the Bengals. Tough one to lose. :( 

Justin Mitchell, Rod Epps and Brad Doyley all had 17 points each for Buff State. Mitchell completed a double double with 10 rebounds as well, to lead the Bengals in that category. Legree Kirkland added 14 points off the bench. Overall these teams were fairly even. Bengals shot the ball a little better, but got outrebounded  41-28. 15 of those 41 rebounds by the Polar Bears are on the offensive end and resulted in too many 2nd chance points that ultimately decided this game. Polar Bears had 69 field goal attempts and made 33, eight of which were 3 pointers. Bengals only got 54 field goal attempts and made 29, with 5 triples.


Bengals will look to rebound tomorrow againt John Carroll at 4 PM.  Looks like another tough game.

The SUNYAC is now 15-9 versus non-conference opponents and we are currently ranked as the 6th strongest conference in D3 by Massey.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 22, 2013, 10:14:27 PM
I'm almost positive Magicman that Dave Mchugh said on the boards last year that the NCAA doesn't look at the Massey ratings and if I'm not mistaken he said the NCAA makes there own regional ranking not based on Massey Ratings. I'm not trying to bad mouth you Magicman. I thought Dave said that during the season last year. I apologize if I mad you upset or anything
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 22, 2013, 10:20:06 PM
Magicman if you go to FAQ on the D3hoops.com page it tells you about the NCAA criteria and not once does it say anything about the Massey Ratings
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2013, 11:26:36 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 22, 2013, 10:14:27 PM
I'm almost positive Magicman that Dave Mchugh said on the boards last year that the NCAA doesn't look at the Massey ratings and if I'm not mistaken he said the NCAA makes there own regional ranking not based on Massey Ratings. I'm not trying to bad mouth you Magicman. I thought Dave said that during the season last year. I apologize if I mad you upset or anything

Young Mr. Cahill:

I didn't say the NCAA as a committee  looks at the Massey Rankings. I said that I knew of NCAA committee members that look at the Massey Rankings... the same way I and others look at the rankings. They provide us with information and some kind of a system to make some comparisons. I don't always agree with the Massey Rankings but then I don't always agree with the NCAA's Regional Rankings or D3hoops Top 25 either.

I never stated that the NCAA uses the Massey Rankings to base the Regional Ranking on. I know they don't. They base the Regional Rankings on in region games against NCAA D3 opponents. (At least they did through last year) Massey bases his rating system on all games a team plays. In some instances he even uses exhibition games against DI and DII teams that take place before the actual D3 season begins. In past years the NCAA only used in region games to determine a teams regional ranking. That's is about to change this year.

I agree with you that the Massey Ratings can be inaccurate in many areas with only several games to imput into the system. I said that myself in an earlier post.

I didn't think you were trying to bad mouth me, I thought you were trying to bad mouth Ken Massey. ;D

And finally, I'm not upset either. I just thought it was funny that you were putting a statement out there about the Massey Ratings, in response to the postings of the Massey Rankings that I've been doing for the East Region teams. Nearly a year ago you had never heard of Mr Massey's rating system. I posted then, as I did this year, all the current rankings of the East Region teams. Your repsonse to that posting of last year can be found in... reply #4415 on January 6th 2013, which is the following quote:

"That is great stuff @magicman where do you find that stuff keep me updated with those ranking and strength of schedule for east region teams" from dcahill44

I was just trying to do what you asked me for....keeping you updated. ;)





 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 23, 2013, 07:26:08 AM
I wasnt trying to bad mouth the Ratings... I think It does give us a general Idea on who the top 5-6-7. I learned more about the ratings over the summer and became aware of some of the innaccurate things about the ratings. I enjoy our chats on here magicman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2013, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 23, 2013, 07:26:08 AM
I wasnt trying to bad mouth the Ratings... I think It does give us a general Idea on who the top 5-6-7. I learned more about the ratings over the summer and became aware of some of the innaccurate things about the ratings. I enjoy our chats on here magicman

Dcahill44.  A suggestion. There is a way for you to send a private message to anyone on these boards which will afford you the opportunity to get some clarifications on things that you might not quite understand yet. 

As far as last night >:( >:( >:(. Momma said there would be days like this.  The worst half of defense that I have seen from a BENGALS team since the 1st half of thier season finale at Geneseo ( where they knew their playoffs chances were shot... No excuse but...). In the words of Charles Barkley our defense was " terable"!

Fortunately we have an opportunity to get some sort of redemption today s John Carroll ( same conference, different style).  I'm hoping for the best. Much rather see Hobart Tuesday with a 3-1 record.

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 23, 2013, 10:30:26 AM
Bengals rule I thankd for the suggestion I watched Buff State play Fisher last weekend and was very impressed with the athleticism and quickness of the Bengals. I think they will definitely contend for a SUNYAC Title
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2013, 03:08:43 PM
4 games scheduled for today:


Brockport State at St. Lawrence    4:00 PM

The Saints haven't had much success against Brockport recently. The Golden Eagles have won the past 4 contests and 5 of the last 7 meetings. Saints come into this game with a 1-3 record and 2 of those losses have been to SUNYAC teams in the past 4 days. The point spread has Brockport favored by a 4 point margin. This will be the Golden Eagles first contest of the season so it's possible they might not be as sharp as they could be. Eagles could have some early season jitters, especially with their opening game on the road and SLU is looking to get some payback against the YAC, especially after the overtime loss last night to Oswego. I'm not buying any of that however. I think the Golden Eagles will be fresh and SLU a bit tired after yesterday's contest against the Lakers. I smell another Brockport win here by a 76-68 margin.

Delaware Valley at New Paltz State    4:00 PM

These 2 teams met last year and Delaware Valley won a close 74-72 decision over the Hawks. I  don't think the Aggies lost as much as New Paltz did from last years' squad. The oddsmakers have made the Aggies a slim 2 point favorite. They have averaged over 93 ppg in their 3 games so far and I think Del Valley will win this one by an 86-80 margin. Hope I'm wrong and the Hawks get back to their winning ways.


Potsdam State at Clarkson     4:00 PM

This series between the  crosstown rivals has been fairly one sided over the past 7 years as the Golden Knights hold an 8-3 advantage in the 11 matchups between them. The Bears did win the most recent contest however and are looking to make it 2 in a row with a win today for the first time in recent memory. The oddsmakers have made the Knights a 10 point favorite but I think the Bears might pull off the upset here by a 73-70 score.


John Carroll at Buffalo State   4:00 PM

The Bengals haven't played against John Carroll since Nov. 22nd 2008. They didn't fare very well in that contest as the Blue Streaks crushed the Bengals 89-56. Getting some conflicting information about the John Carroll team in regards to their personnel so I'm going to have to wing it on this pick. The oddsmakers have made John Carroll a slight 3 point favorite, but I'm hoping the Bengals want some revenge from that pasting they got 5 years ago and I don't think they want to lose at home on consecutive nights. I'll take the Bengals to squeak out a narrow 84-81 victory
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 23, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
Potsdam 27 Clarkson 23 at the Half.  Rob Duquette has a double double at the Half with 13 points 10 rebounds.

Bears have 14 turnovers at the Half, and haven't made a 3 but still lead!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2013, 05:02:33 PM
Updates:

Buffalo State losing to John Carroll 56-42 at the half.

John Carroll looking to have a significant size advantage over the Bengals. That was my concern when i was trying to find out about this team.Bengals already outrebounded by 12 boards at the break.  Maurice MIles leads Buff State with 14 points. Lovell Smith with a basket at the buzzer to end the half has 10.

The Blue Streaks getting contributions from 9 different players. Jake Holliger leads them with 13 pts. Simon Kucharewicz has 10 pts and 8 rebounds.


Potsdam leading Clarkson 27-23 at halftime.

Golden Knights led early but the Bears grabbed the lead at 9-8 and held onto it by as much as 5 points on several occasions. Knights caught them at 21 and went back in front 23-21 but the Bears ended the half with a 6-0 run to claim the lead at the break.

Rob Duquette accounting for a good portion of the Bears offense with 13 pts and 10 rebounds to have his double double already. like to see him get another one in the next 20 minutes. Zac Adams is next with 6 points.

Felix Abongo leads the Golden knights with 8 pts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2013, 05:21:11 PM
Brockport leads St Lawrence 47-35 at halftime.

Golden Eagles have their track shoes on as they are almost halfway to the century mark at the break. The first 13 minutes of this game was closely contested  as there were numerous lead changes and ties. The Golden Eagles were up 28-27 with 6:52 left in the period and ended the half with a 19-8 run to go into the break with the double digit lead.

John Ivy and Brandon Caruthers top the Eagles with 11 points each.

Brady Condlin leads SLU with 15. Kyle Kobis is next with 7.



Delaware Valley led New Paltz at the half by a 36-30 score. The Aggies are now up 69-50 with just under 7 minutes left in the game. Not looking good for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 23, 2013, 05:23:20 PM
Duquette having a HUGE game for Potsdam with 19 pts, 17 rebounds .  Clarkson leads by 54-49 with 8 minutes left.  Potsdam individual game rebounding record is 27.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2013, 05:44:02 PM
Final scores:

John Carroll 111 Buffalo State 92


Delaware Valley 85  New Paltz 58


Clarkson 78 Potsdam State  62

Still in progress:

Brockport State 76 St. Lawrence 50       9 minutes left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 23, 2013, 05:46:14 PM
Bears Collapse in the 4th Quarter, leading 49-47 with 9:22 left, go cold and drop a 78-62 decision to their cross-town rivals.

:-(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2013, 09:21:20 AM
Two games on the schedule for today.


Fredonia State at Elmira      2:00 PM

Last year the Blue Devils beat Elmira 75-60. This year will be the 5th time the schools have met in the past 8 years. Elmira had their only win back in the fall of 2009. Since then Fredonia has owned the hardwood when these 2 teams have met. That may be about to change this afternoon. The Soaring Eagles return more talent than Fredonia does and while Elmira is only 1-3 they have been competitive in all their contests. The Blue Devils are 1-2 but both losses have been 30 point blowouts. Even the oddsmakers have Elmira as a 6 point favorite in this game. It's been a long time since Elmira was favored in a matchup with a team from the SUNYAC. I hope I'm wrong because a loss in this game will hurt the YAC's SOS but I think the Soaring Eagles will win a close one here by a 67-63 margin.

Oswego State at Hartwick  4:00 PM

This will be the first meeting between these two teams in recent memory.  Oswego (3-1), comes into the game fresh off an overtime win up at St. Lawrence and a manhandling of perennial E8 power Ithaca. Hartwick also has a pair of wins and a 1 point loss to undefeated (4-0) Messiah. The Hawks lost 7 or 8 guys from last years team. The good news is none of them were getting much playing time as the Hawks bring back the top 7 players in their rotation. And 2 of their starters this year didn't start last season. Now starting at center for the Hawks is 6'9" Matt Wilson who transferred to Hartwick from Franklin & Marshall College.  Not sure why several starters from last year have barely played this year, but Hartwick doesn't appear to lack talent. Oswego will have a struggle on their hands trying to win their 3rd in a row. The point spread has Hartwick favored by a slim 3 point margin. I think it will be close, but I also think that pre season 2nd team All American, Jared Suderley, and the new face, Wilson, might be too much for the Lakers to handle on the inside. I think the score might be something like 78-73 in favor of the Hawks. Hope the Lakers prove me wrong.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 24, 2013, 11:22:40 AM
After the first week or so.... Brockport, Geneseo, Oswego have been impressive. Plattsburgh is very good. The bottom half of the league is stronger than usual with Fredonia, Oneonta, Potsdam. One of the most competitive leagues in the country this year especially. Along with the Empire 8.. Was very impressed with the way Coach Leone has beat some good team St Lawrence and Ithaca with such a young team so early in the season. shows what this team could do in the SUNYAC Tournment
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 02:55:47 AM
Final score of Monday night's game.

Geneseo 76 Medaille 74

The Medaille Mavericks have probably had their fill of SUNYAC opponents. For the 3rd time in the past 10 days they have lost to a team from the YAC in a down to the wire nail biter. First it was Cortland on Nov 15th winning a 61-59 decision in the season opener for both teams at Medaille. Then the Buffalo State Bengals paid a visit 3 days later and walked out of the Sullivan Center with an 87-82 win. Then, in between the Bengals win and Monday night's win by Geneseo, St. John Fisher invaded the Mavericks' gym and came away with an 85-82 decision over the weekend. That leaves Medaille with an 0-4 record and I doubt that there is any team in the country that has lost their first four games, at home, by a combined total of 12 points. This should certainly prepare the Mavericks for conference play in the AMCC.

Last night's contest was another wild affair as the 2 teams went at each other the entire game. There were 9 lead changes and 5 ties just in the first half alone and the period ended with the Blue Knights up 36-34 on a Gordon Lyons jumper with 40 seconds before the buzzer went off. The biggest leads were early on when Medaille was up 7-2 and a bit later Geneseo was on top 15-9 with 14 minutes left in the half. From that point on the teams were never separated by more than 4 points as the lead went back and forth until the break.

The 2nd half had a script change however, as the Blue Knights came out on fire and opened the half with a 20-8 run to go on top 56-42 with, only 7 minutes gone by in the period.  Medaille, not to be outdone, went on a 15-0 spurt over the next 4:43, to regain the lead at 57-56 with 8:26 left in the game. That was the 1st lead change of the 2nd half. Nine more lead changes and 4 ties would follow until the game was over. The final 1:49 produced the following sequence. Geneseo scored to go up by 1, Medaille hit a 3 pointer to go up by 2 at the 1:21 mark.  Geneseo's Gordon Lyons hit a layup to tie the game at 72 with 56 ticks left. Medaille misses on their possession and Geneseo goes up 74-72 on 2 free throws by James McKenna, with 32 second to play. Mavericks get a basket by Jammal Coleman to tie it up with 17 seconds left, setting the stage for Gordon Lyons to supply the heroics, as he grabbed an offensive rebound off a missed jumper by Tom Decker, and put it in at the buzzer for the game winner, to make the final of 76-74. 

I'm exhausted just doing the write up.  Lyons led Geneseo with 24 pts. and 9 rebounds. McKenna had 16 pts. and 6 boards off the bench. Jordan Jones had 13 points and Decker added 7 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 steals.

Medaille also had 3 players in double figures led by Coleman with 21, Robby Seyler with 14 and Erik Simmos with 10.

Blue Knights improve to 2-0 and will next be in action on Wednesday December 4th at 8:00 PM in the annual Wendy's Tournament. Their opponent will be announced at a later date after the seeding is determined.

I didn't get my prediction in for this game but I had Geneseo winning it by a 79-75 score. My logic was if Cortland beat them by 2 then Geneseo, a team that I picked to finish ahead of Cortland in the YAC would win by 4. The point spread favored Geneseo by 3.  ;)         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
If I don't ever see another team for Ohio then ill be alright. This past weekend was just horrible. I take some solace in knowing that John Carroll will be in the post season if they continue playing like they did Saturday

Tonight Hobart visits 1300 Elmwood. If we do t play better defense than Saturday then it's gonna hurt. If we can hold them under 60 then we should be good. We have yet to have 14 players dressed and ready to play in a game yet. Gonna be missing 2 tonight >:(

Gonna give it out best. Need a big game from our front court to have a chance

On another note....
Kudos to Magicman from the coaches at buffalo state   He contacted Massey who had not been getting our scores and had him update our record and ranking. Had been listed 0-0 when we were 2-0.
Thanks oh Magic 1

Ps here hoping that magic and minor surgery goes well today!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
On another note....
Kudos to Magicman from the coaches at buffalo state   He contacted Massey who had not been getting our scores and had him update our record and ranking. Had been listed 0-0 when we were 2-0.
Thanks oh Magic 1

Ps here hoping that magic and minor surgery goes well today!!

Actually Mr. Massey didn't have you at 0-0 he had you at 0-2. Didn't miss your 2 losses just didn't have your 2 wins. ??? All is well now however.

Except the magicman is not well. :( Stayed up all night worrying about this surgery I had this morning. The Doc carved a hole in my face at 8:00 AM, then sewed it up with 20 stitches. As Bill Cosby once said Novocain doesn't kill pain, it just delays it. They gave me enough lidocaine  that my eyeball was numb, but now it's wearing off and the pain is coming. It takes its time, the pain, so it can build up a whole bunch of pain buddies. Then at about 2 PM all those pain buddies are gonna attack.   Already feels like I got hit by Mike Tyson, and I think it's going to get worse. It don't look to good when I look in a mirror either. I asked the Doc if I was going to have a scar and he said yes I would. I said I thought you were a plastic surgeon and fixed those things. He said it wouldn't be a big scar and it would hardly be noticeable. Plus he said my glasses sit right where the scar will be so they'll help cover it up. He also said I was only going to have a "few" stitches. I don't think of 20 as a few...more like a lot!! :o     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
New D3 hoops Top 25 Poll out today:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/week1

No East Region teams made the Top 25. Hobart is the highest ranked East team as they get 22 points in the Others Receiving Votes category, which puts them in 36th place. Cortland State is close behind with 18 votes good for 38th place. Brockport State with their 1-0 record got a little support and checked in at #52 with 5 votes. NYU brings up the rear with a single vote.

Morrisville State drops from the #20 spot completely out of the rankings. Not really a surprise there as they didn't belong in the Top 25. Plattsburgh State and Ithaca who were tied for the 37th spot are also out  of the rankings. Plattsburgh is 2-1 with their loss coming to Richard Stockton in New Jersey by a 4 point margin. I think they will be back with a mention in the future. Ithaca has started the season out with 3 losses and 2 of them weren't good. They won't make another appearance.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 04:59:31 PM
Originally 6 games scheduled for Tuesday Nov. 26th

Winter storm warnings in New York may curtail some of tonight's action. Already the Utica at Cortland game scheduled for 6:00 PM has been postponed. No makeup date has been announced yet. 



Fredonia State  at  D'Youville      6:00 PM

Blue Devils look to get back in the win column. If they can't do it in this game they may not win for the rest of the year. Point spread says Fredonia by 8, but just about everyone else has been beating up on the Spartans by 30 plus points. I think Fredonia wins this one 84-74.     
   
 
   
Hobart   at  Buffalo State      7:00 PM

I'd feel a lot better about this game if the Bengals weren't missing 2 key players that are out with injuries. Last year the Bengals won at Hobart. I think last year's Hobart team was better than this year's team. The question is...is this year's Bengal team as good as last year's edition. The jury is still out on that. Oddsmakers have made the Statesmen a slim 2 point favorite. Can the Bengals lose 3 in a row at the Sports Arena? I think not...Bengals win 83-80.   
   
Potsdam State      Skidmore      7:00 PM

I can't pick the Bears to beat anyone right now. Neither can the oddsmakers who have made the Thoroughbreds a 13 point favorite. The Bears should keep it closer than that and if they ever decided to play a full 40 minutes they could pull off the upset here. I don't think they will though as Skidmore wins this one 76-68. Hope I'm wrong.   
   
Brockport State      SUNY-Purchase      7:00 PM

Top 25 poll calls SUNY-Purchase, Purchase State and has them getting 20 votes which puts them in 37th place. Brockport also in the ORV category but only getting 5 votes. Purchase is loaded with tall players as they start a 7'2" center plus a pair of 6'7" and 6'6" forwards in the front court. Pointspread favors the Panthers by 4 points. I'll go out on a limb here and take the Eagles with their defense and speed to win this one 78-75.

New Paltz State      Mount St. Mary      8:00 PM

The Hawks couldn't beat this team last year at home and I don't think they will have much luck taking them down on the road. The Knights return 4 starters, the Hawks lost 4 starters. Oddsmakers say the Mount wins by 5. I think it might be more... Mt. St.Mary's 77 New Paltz 71.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2013, 05:30:08 PM
Glad to hear that all went well (- the 20 stitches) Magicman. Your Fredonia prediction is a lock. Nothing against 1 of our local teams but D'Youville is having a rough time in 2013! They have lost 4 games by an average of 31 plus per game! And Fredonia Coach - Phil Seymour returns home (Canisius College graduate and Turner Carroll HS coach) to Buffalo NY.

Getting ready to head to 1300 Elmwood (gotta get me a good seat  :) ) for the BENGALS vs. Hobart game tonight. Sure would make that Thanksgiving turkey taste better with a "W" tonite! ;)

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 07:09:25 PM
This is ugly:   Fredonia losing to D'Youville 38-32 at halftime. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 07:50:39 PM
More halftime scores:


Potsdam leads Skidmore 45-39 at the half.

Estramonte with 13 for the Bears. Hendricks, Adams, Williams and Peterson all with 6 apiece. Rob Duquett with only 1 point and Potsdam has the lead. Now that's surprising.



Brockport 33 Purchase 34

John Ivy with 10 and Brandon Caruthers with 8 to lead the Golden Eagles.




Hobart 45 Buffalo State 34

Justin Mitchell with 9 points and 8 rebounds. Lovell Smith with 6

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 26, 2013, 07:52:30 PM
Bears start out in a 2-11 hole in Saratoga vs. Skidmore, but finally regain their 3 pt touch led by soph Joe Estramonte [from next town East of Saratoga in Greenwich]/  lead 45-39 at the half on 7x11 from beyond the arc.

Estramonte has 13 at the half, and the bears pick up 17 bench points.

Bears only had 3 turnovers in 1H, and outrebounded the skidmarks 19-17. 

Hoping this trend will continue after intermission.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
Wish I had a dollar for every time the Bears have had a lead at the half in the past 4 years. Wish I had another dollar for every time they were on the short end of the score at the end of the games that they had the lead at the half. :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 26, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
Me too, would have made a nice nest egg for retirement, however as usual they have dug and 18-8 hole starting the 2nd Half.

:-(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
Buffalo State has come all the way back and tied Hobart at 68 with 6:42 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 09:07:32 PM
Hobart 85 Buffalo State 83 Final

Skidmore 87 Potsdam 74  Final    That would be another 2 bucks in my pocket. Bears led at the half, but not at the end.

Brockport 74 Purchase 74     End of regulation

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
Brockport and Purchase headed to a 2nd overtime tied at 80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 09:24:55 PM
Purchase 98 Brockport 90 Final in double overtime.

Brockport had 2 chances to win this game in regulation. The Golden Eagles had the ball after a made free throw by Purchase to tie the game at 74 with 54 seconds left. Brockport came down and Bobby Bell took a 3 point attempt, missed and got the offensive rebound. They looked for a shot and ended up calling a time out with 9 ticks left. John Ivy let fly with a jumper at the buzzer that was no good and the game continued. Up by 4 pts at 78-74, with 2:21 left in OT the Eagles allowed the Panthers to score 6 unanswered points to take an 80-78 edge with 1:15 left. Port tied it up with 50 seconds to go an a Matt Lee layup and after a Purchase miss, Brockport again had a chance to end the game but once more came up empty when Clifton Lyerly missed a jumper at the buzzer. Brockport scored first on 2 free throws in the 2nd extra session but it was all Panthers after that. Tied at 84, Purchase opened up a 91-86 lead with 2:03 left. After a Brockport miss on their next possession the Eagles were forced to foul and the Panthers hit their free throws to close this one out.

John Ivy with 29 and Brandon Caruthers with 23 led the Golden Eagles.

Tough loss for Brockport but they gave this Purchase team one too many chances and the Panthers made them pay. Coach Dunne is already wishing he had this one back for a do over on those last few possessions in regulation and the 1st OT.

Brockport is now 1-1 and will next be in action on 12-4 when the Wendy's Tournament gets under way in the Rochester area.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
Mount St. Mary 71  New Paltz 57   Final

Hawks were down in this game right from the opening bell. The lead hit double digits 6 minutes in at 17-6 and with 6:10 left in the period the Knights had extended the margin to 15 pts at 25-10. The teams headed into the locker rooms with the Mount on top 33-20.

Hawks came out and quickly got the deficit back to single digits but couldn't sustain the momentum and slowly but surely the Knights built the lead back up to 15, then 18 and ultimately 20 points. For most of the 2nd period the lead fluctuated between 13 and 18 points. Hawks did make a mini run to lower it to 10 points with 50 seconds to go but this game was clearly over 3 minutes into the 2nd period.

Hawks Nick Taldi was the only player in double figures for his team with 12 points. Taylor Sowah led the team with 8 rebounds and 8 points. Andrew Seniuk and Kewan Beebe both had 9 points.

Hawks after a nice west coast trip have now dropped three in a row to fall under .500. They will next  face Eastern Connecticut, on the road, December 3rd. That one will be another tough outing for New Paltz as they will struggle to put one in the win column against the Warriors.

I had the Hawks losing this game 77-71 but they weren't able to keep this one that close. Hawks haven't generated much offense since their return from the left coast, averaging under 60 ppg.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2013, 03:09:56 AM
Hobart 85 Buffalo State 83 Final

Another heartbreaker for the Bengals as they claw their way back into this game from a large 2nd half deficit, only to come up on the short end. Seems like I just saw that Bengal movie on Friday night against Ohio Northern. :P I hate reruns, especially when the bad guys win.

Hobart had the better of play throughout the 1st period as they opened up a 12-4 lead 5 minutes into the game. Bengals would close it to a single possession but the Statesmen kept the Bengals at bay and maintained a 5 to 9 point edge until 2 free throws by Hobart with 3 seconds left in the half gave them a double digit 46-35 advantage at the break.

The Statesmen opened the  2nd half  with 3 layups to offset a triple by Rod Epps and the lead swelled to 14 points with 2 minutes gone by in the period. Hobart was still leading by 11 points at 61-50 with 10:51 remaining, when the Bengals finally made their move. Led by 7 points from Justin Mitchell and 6 points from Brad Doyley, Buffalo State would outscore Hobart by an 18 to 7 margin over the next 4 minutes until a layup by Lovell Smith made the score 68-68 with 6:42 to play. Eight lead changes and 2 ties would occur during  the remainder of the contest. The Statesmen were down 79-78 with just under 3 minutes to go when Hobart's preseason All American, Richie Bonney, would score 5 unanswered points to give his team a lead they wouldn't surrender. Down 84-79 with 1:27 left the Bengals made one last push as first Smith and then Mitchell scored to bring Buff State within a single point. Mitchell had a chance to tie the game as he was fouled on his jumper, with just under a minute remaining, but missed the free throw. Bonney grabbed the rebound and shortly thereafter the Bengals fouled Trey Blanding with 35 seconds left. He missed the first, made the 2nd and the Bengals had one final chance to tie or win the game. They had a decent look but missed the attempt for the game winner from downtown and Hobart left the Sports Arena with the W.

Richie Bonney led the Statesmen with a double double of 21 points and 12 rebounds. Trey Blanding had 22 pts along with 7 assists while Joe Gibbons was next with 16 points. Connor Rehbaum had a solid game with 12 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and a block. Zach Grattan came off the bench adding 12 rebounds and 8 points.

Buffalo State got a huge game from Justin Mitchell as the senior forward shared scoring honors with 22 points and led everyone with 15 rebounds. He also added 4 assists, 3 blocks, and a steal. Lovell Smith came off the bench and had 14 points. Chris Thompson, making his 1st appearance since the season opener, also came off the bench and just missed a double double with 13 points and 9 rebounds. He added 3 blocks and a steal in only 18 minutes on the floor. He fouled out with almost 4 minutes left to play which may have proved  costly to the Bengals down the stretch. Rod Epps had 12 points and Brad Doyley added 10.

Bengals had 8 more field goals than Hobart  but the Statesmen had 2 more 3 pointers and made 16 more free throws. That last statistic was the telling one and ultimately proved to be a difference maker. The Bengals also only made 12 of their 23 attempts from the stripe. If they shoot 65% instead of 52% from the line  they win this game. 

Buffalo State falls to 2-3 and is off until 12-6 when they open conference play against Oneonta.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2013, 03:13:33 AM
Fredonia avoids the upset as they come from behind to defeat D'Youville   75-74.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2013, 12:55:24 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone who stops by our SUNYAC board.

Time to do an update on the YAC's out of conference activity.

Our overall record has taking a beating as we've finished  the 2nd week of the season. We had a 14-7 record after the games of 11-21 were completed for an outstanding .666 winning percentage. Our conference ranking in the Massey Ratings had risen from #15 up to the 10th spot, our highest ranking in recent memory.  If we had continued on that pace we'd still be a top 10 ranked conference right now. Unfortunately some tight games didn't go our way and other games, that I think we should have won, proved to be a letdown. Since Nov. 22nd the conference has collectively posted a 5-15 won-lost mark for a .333 winning percentage. This is just about the exact opposite of our first 7 day record. Overall we now stand at 19-17 heading into the Thanksgiving break and are rated as the 14th strongest conference in D3 out of 45 . With 36 out of 70 non-conference games already in the books, we're looking at approximately 34 remaining OOC games left to play (I'm assuming all 10 YAC teams are playing 7 OOC games each (10x7=70)). It's hard  trying to project how we might do over those remaining games because a large part of  these contests take place in holiday tournaments. The 2nd game's opponent won't be known until the first round games are over. Cortland is playing 2 games in Washington D.C. over the holidays and those opponents have yet to be posted to their schedule. Geneseo and Brockport are each playing 3 games in the Wendy's Tournament in the Rochester area. They haven't announced the first round matchups for that tournament yet either. However, based on the information that I do have, I've made some projections that I believe are within reason. I think we can go 19-15 the rest of the way which would give us an overall 38-32 won-loss record for the non-conference portion of our schedule. That would put us around a .543 winning percentage and keep us in the top third of the conference rankings. With a bit of luck, and some solid outings we could pick up 3 to 5 wins above my estimates. It will depend on who Cortland might face in D.C., what the opening matchups will be in the Wendy's tournament for Port and Geneseo, as well as the ability of Plattsburgh and Buffalo State to win some of those games against the so called power conferences. I also think that Oneonta, Potsdam Fredonia  and New Paltz will be a combined 3-8 in their remaining nine contests. Anything better than that would be a bonus.

After looking at the non-conference schedules of all the teams in the SUNYAC I thought it was time to announce who had the strongest and most challenging schedules in the league. Last year the top team was Plattsburgh State followed by Buffalo State. Those 2 teams once again occupy the top 2 positions according to my rankings but the Bengals have supplanted the Cardinals in the #1 spot.

Taking on a pair of teams from the CCIW conference including Final Four participant North Central and Carthage College, who last night defeated the #4 ranked Washington University Bears 82-80 will generally boost your SOS. Buffalo State also scheduled two strong teams from the Ohio Athletic Conference, John Carroll, who looks like the League Champion, and Ohio Northern. They had East Region powers Hobart, St. John Fisher, and Medaille to round out a schedule that left them so stuffed, they had no room for cupcakes. This slate of non-conference teams is a huge upgrade over the schedule they played just several years ago, when they defeated 4 OOC teams by margins that reached as high as 48 points. Now they were cupcakes. ;D

Plattsburgh, once again, faces a challenging group of non-conference opponents. Coach Curle has never been shy about playing strong teams, more often than not on their home court, since no one wants to travel way up North to play the Cardinals at home. This year the Cards were in New Jersey to take on perennial NJAC power Richard Stockton, and MASCAC title contender Bridgewater State. They will face teams from the LEC, the CCIW and WIAC, the latter pair  in a holiday tournament in Florida, before they travel to Middlebury to face the nationally ranked Panthers in early January. The weakest team on their OOC schedule might be North Country rival St. Lawrence who is always in the hunt for the Liberty League title. I think the Saints will probably finish with 14 or 15 wins and be in the LL playoffs once again. I don't think any of the teams Plattsburgh has scheduled outside of the YAC will end up with a losing record. Not many programs will be able to say that. Curle's approach has always been to prepare his team, first and foremost, for conference play. A strong non-conference slate is one of the best ways to do that.

Here are the rankings as I see them. I've based my decisions on:
1. The success that a team's opponents had last year.

2. The amount of talent a team is returning. (A great team last year may be in a full blown rebuilding mode this year. North Central, for instance, won't be a Final Four participant again this year and probably won't even win their conference, but they are a very good team with a lot of returning players.)

3. The limited amount of information that is available for the team's opponents based on this year's results. Won-lost records, offensive and defensive production plus stats that give added insight about a teams' capabilities.

4. The reputation and success of the conference the opponents come from.

You may not agree with my rankings. No problem. It's just one man's opinion,  so it doesn't mean I'm right. Comments are always welcome. 8-)

1     Buffalo State
2     Plattsburgh
3     New Paltz
4     Brockport
5     Oneonta
6     Geneseo
7     Potsdam
8     Cortland
9     Oswego
10   Fredonia               


 
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 28, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
Personally I think Oswego is a Top 4 team in the SUNYAC... Plattsburgh, Brockport, Geneseo, Buffalo State, Oneonta I think are the 6 that get in the tournament.
1. Plattsburgh
2. Brockport
3. Buffalo State
4. Oswego
5. Geneseo
6. Oneonta
7. New Paltz
8. Cortland
9.Fredonia
10. Potsdam
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 28, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
Personally I think Oswego is a Top 4 team in the SUNYAC... Plattsburgh, Brockport, Geneseo, Buffalo State, Oneonta I think are the 6 that get in the tournament.
1. Plattsburgh
2. Brockport
3. Buffalo State
4. Oswego
5. Geneseo
6. Oneonta
7. New Paltz
8. Cortland
9.Fredonia
10. Potsdam


dcahill,

I think you missed reading this part of my post:

After looking at the non-conference schedules of all the teams in the SUNYAC I thought it was time to announce who had the strongest and most challenging schedules in the league. Last year the top team was Plattsburgh State followed by Buffalo State. Those 2 teams once again occupy the top 2 positions according to my rankings but the Bengals have supplanted the Cardinals in the #1 spot.


You're missing the point of what I posted. The rankings that I did aren't how I think the teams will finish. They are how I ranked the difficulty of their non-conference schedule. 

I ranked how I thought the teams would finish several weeks ago on November 14th, in this post. ;)

Quote from: magicman on November 14, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
Think the SUNYAC race may look something like this at year's end. Lots of new faces this year, with a number of transfers along with plenty of new recruits, anything can and probably will happen. It's always tough to win on the road in the YAC so as usual, the teams that protect their home court will be the ones that make the playoffs. Here's my take. I think the top 4 teams are solid teams with a lot of talent and any one of them could claim the SUNYAC crown. Also think Potsdam, Cortland and Oswego are interchangeable with some tough battles being waged there for the final playoff spot.                                     


1. Plattsburgh State
2. Buffalo State
3. Brockport State
4. Geneseo State
5. Potsdam State
6. Cortland State
7. Oswego State
8. Oneonta State
9. New Paltz State
10. Fredonia State
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2013, 03:46:07 PM
SUNYAC Player of the Week for Week#2

Kyle Covley, Oswego
Fairport / Penfield


Covley helped the Lakers to a perfect 3-0 record on the week with wins over Ithaca, St. Lawrence and Hartwick. He averaged 17.7 points per game and shot 58.3 percent from three-point range. In the Lakers overtime win against St. Lawrence Covley scored 15 points including a clutch three-pointer with :41 seconds in OT as the shot clock expired putting the game away for the Oswego.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2013, 01:53:04 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 28, 2013, 03:45:19 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on November 28, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
Personally I think Oswego is a Top 4 team in the SUNYAC... Plattsburgh, Brockport, Geneseo, Buffalo State, Oneonta I think are the 6 that get in the tournament.
1. Plattsburgh
2. Brockport
3. Buffalo State
4. Oswego
5. Geneseo
6. Oneonta
7. New Paltz
8. Cortland
9.Fredonia
10. Potsdam


dcahill,

I think you missed reading this part of my post:

After looking at the non-conference schedules of all the teams in the SUNYAC I thought it was time to announce who had the strongest and most challenging schedules in the league. Last year the top team was Plattsburgh State followed by Buffalo State. Those 2 teams once again occupy the top 2 positions according to my rankings but the Bengals have supplanted the Cardinals in the #1 spot.


You're missing the point of what I posted. The rankings that I did aren't how I think the teams will finish. They are how I ranked the difficulty of their non-conference schedule. 

I ranked how I thought the teams would finish several weeks ago on November 14th, in this post. ;)

Quote from: magicman on November 14, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
Think the SUNYAC race may look something like this at year's end. Lots of new faces this year, with a number of transfers along with plenty of new recruits, anything can and probably will happen. It's always tough to win on the road in the YAC so as usual, the teams that protect their home court will be the ones that make the playoffs. Here's my take. I think the top 4 teams are solid teams with a lot of talent and any one of them could claim the SUNYAC crown. Also think Potsdam, Cortland and Oswego are interchangeable with some tough battles being waged there for the final playoff spot.                                     


1. Plattsburgh State
2. Buffalo State
3. Brockport State
4. Geneseo State
5. Potsdam State
6. Cortland State
7. Oswego State
8. Oneonta State
9. New Paltz State
10. Fredonia State
   

Beware Magicman. I thing dcahill has a "thing" for you! You may have to go undercover for a while! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference Re: MBB: Empire 8
Post by: dcahill44 on December 01, 2013, 08:10:33 PM
Wendy College Classic Bracket 2013
1. Brockport vs 8. RIT Brockport wins by 13
4. Geneseo vs 5. St John Fisher Fisher wins by 6
2. Hobart vs 7. Rochester  Rochester wins by 3
3. Nazareth vs 6. Roberts Wesleyan Naz wins by 8
Semifinal Predictions
  3. Nazareth vs 7. Rochester Naz wins by 4
1. Brockport vs 5. St John Fisher Brockport wins by 6
Championship Game:
1. Brockport vs 3. Nazareth Naz wins by 2
Nazareth I think wins the Wendys Classic.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2013, 04:04:38 AM
Six games on the schedule for today, 12-3.


Cortland State at  Ithaca      6:00 PM
The Red Dragons recently won their 4th straight game over the Bombers on the gridiron. Now they are looking to make it 3 in a row on the hardwood, as they take on Ithaca in the hoops version of the Cortaca Bowl. Bombers with 5 games already this season, off to a disappointing 2-3 start. Cortland, undefeated, but only 2-0, as the Utica game last week was postponed. Hard to believe that Ithaca is a 6 point dog at home but that's what the oddsmakers have posted as the line. Both teams coming off NCAA appearances last year. Both teams had their season end with a loss to the Middlebury Panthers, Cortland in the 2nd round and Ithaca in the Sweet 16. Both teams lost considerable talent through graduation, and will have a tough time repeating the success of last year's squads. And both teams are scoring considerably less than they did last year. I think both teams will have a Deja Vu moment and the Red Dragons defeat Ithaca 70-67.
   
Alfred  at  Fredonia State      7:00 PM
Difficult to say which of these 2 teams will come away with a W in this game. Both teams will be at or near the bottom of their respective leagues again. Alfred off to a 3-1 start this year but against less than stellar competition. Last year they lost to 1-25 Houghton. Fredonia coming off a last place finish in the YAC, was hit hard by graduation. They are 2-3 after 5 games but will have trouble matching the 7 wins they picked up in last year's campaign. Point spread favors the Saxons by a 3 point margin.  I sure hope the Blue Devils win this game, but I'm not convinced they will. I'll go with them even though I shouldn't. Defense won't be on display here as the final could be something like 89-86, Blue Devils.       
   
Potsdam State at  St. Lawrence      7:00 PM
Saints looking to finally record a victory in the YAC as they are currently 0-3 against our conference. SLU with a 1-4 record but could easily be 3-2 as they have a 2 point loss at Utica and an overtime loss to Oswego that didn't go their way. Bears with a similar problem as they couldn't hold onto 2nd half leads on several occasions and currently sport a 1-3 record. Oddsmakers have listed the Saints as a 5 point favorite and having seen both teams play several games already I'm going to concur with that and pick the Saints to get off the schneid against the YAC. SLU wins 75-71
   
Keene State at  Plattsburgh State      7:00 PM 
The Keene State Owls make their first trip to Plattsburgh in recent memory as part of a home and home that was started between the 2 schools last year. Plattsburgh won that initial encounter 70-64 and the Cardinals will be favored to win round 2 as well, with all the talent they return. The Owls lost quite a bit off last year's team and have struggled in the early going this year. They are still searching for their initial win, opening this season with 4 losses. Cards are favored by 13 points and I think they will cover that double digit margin. Plattsburgh 83 Keene 69.
   
New Paltz State  at   Eastern Connecticut      7:30 PM
It must be the Little East-SUNYAC Challenge night this evening, as Eastern Connecticut is also an LEC member along with Keene State. Just about everything I said about the above game will also apply in this game. Substitue New Paltz for Keene State as the Hawks are making their first trip to Eastern's home court. Hawks lost last year's matchup and lost a lot of last year's team. New Paltz struggling  offensively with 3 straight losses and averaging less than 59 ppg in those losses. Eastern, like Plattsburgh, returns many key players, has opened up 5-1 and putting nearly 80 ppg on the board. They are also favored by a double digits margin with a 12 point spread. I'm thinking these 2 conferences will split the games and the Warriors will ground the Hawks by an 82-65 final.

Oneonta State  at  Hartwick      8:00 PM
These Red Dragons are looking to break a 3 game losing streak to their crosstown rivals. Oneonta has lost 5 of the past 7 meetings and will be hard pressed to turn things around this evening.  Hartwick is 3-4 so far this year but could just as easily be 6-1 having lost 3  games by a total of 8 points. Oddsmakers have made the Hawks a 7 point favorite. The Red Dragons are certainly capable of pulling off the upset as evidenced by their road beatdown of the Rochester Yellowjackets. Oneonta has been without the services of point guard  Frankie Kelly, who has yet to see any action this year. With 2 weeks off snce their last game he might return tonight. Hope the Red Dragons can pull this one out but I think Jared Suderley will be too much for them to handle. Hartwick  86-Oneonta 77.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 03, 2013, 09:49:49 PM
Just Back from Potsdam - SLU.  Saints win 69-67, as a last second three ball by Potsdam hits front iron.

Bears dug out from a 13 point first half deficit to tie at the half 28- 28.

Tough road trip this weekend at Cortland, at Oswego.

:-(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2013, 10:00:24 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 03, 2013, 09:49:49 PM
Just Back from Potsdam - SLU.  Saints win 69-67, as a last second three ball by Potsdam hits front iron.

Bears dug out from a 13 point first half deficit to tie at the half 28- 28.

Tough road trip this weekend at Cortland, at Oswego.

:-(

Once again the Bears come up short. I was hoping that my 75-71 prediction of an SLU win would turn out wrong but no such luck. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh State game. The Cardinals won rather easily over Keene State 109-76, in a game that was even more lopsided than the final score indicates. Details to follow a bit later.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
Other action so far tonight:

Cortland State defeats Ithaca in the Cortaca Bowl 79-63.

Hartwick defeats Oneonta 86-78 in overtime.

Alfred downs Fredonia State 100-90

New Paltz falls to Eastern Connecticut 77-53.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 04, 2013, 12:45:36 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 03, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh State game. The Cardinals won rather easily over Keene State 109-76, in a game that was even more lopsided than the final score indicates. Details to follow a bit later.

I figured you'd have better recaps over here.  For the 3 people that actually take a look at the LEC board, I told them you'd probably have better recaps here on the Keene/Plattsburgh and New Paltz/Eastern game then I would.  Don't disappoint me  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2013, 07:20:13 AM
Plattsburgh 109  Keene State 76

This game was over 5 minutes and 34 seconds after it began.  By then Plattsburgh had just finished off a 25-4 run with a steal and a dunk by Shavar Fields, along with another steal and a 3 pointer by Ezra Hodgson, in a 30 second span, that boosted their lead to 29-8. They would extend it to 34-8 before the Owls would finally get on the board again. Up by 24, with 12:23 left in the period, the Cardinals would reel off another 12 unanswered points, 5 more by Fields and 4 by Ed Correa, to boost the score to 46-10. With over 5 minutes left to go the Cardinals' coaching staff was substituting freely.

The Cards were on fire to start the game as they hit their first 11 shots from the field, which included 4 from behind the arc. Their perfection continued at the free throw line as they were 8 for 8 there as well. It took them over 7 minutes before they finally missed an attempt from the field. The Owls just couldn't keep up with the athleticism of the Cardinals and were called for numerous fouls which put Plattsburgh on the line and in the bonus situation relatively early in the half.  Plattsburgh shot 19x32 from the field, 16x18 from the line, and 5x10 from downtown in the first period. The Owls were on the other end of the spectrum as they were 7x29 from the field, only 1x8 from long range and only had 5 free throw attempts making 2. The halftime score of 59-17 would have been worse had Coach Curle not emptied his bench.

The 2nd half was really more of the same for the first 6 to 7 minutes, as the Cardinals extended their lead to a game high 52 points at 81-29 with 13:09 to go. Once again Plattsburgh's reserves were brought into the game. The only reason this game ended up with a 33 point differential instead of 50 was the Keene regulars were still in the game and full court pressing the Plattsburgh reserves over the final 7 minutes.

The Cardinals had 5 players in double figures led by Jordan Moody's career high of 23 points (7x10 fg, 2x3 3's, 7x8 ft). The Owls couldn't stay with Jordan who got to the rim with ease tonight. John Perez had his 4th straight double-double of 11 points and 10 rebounds. He was the high rebounder in the game despite the presence of the Owls' 7'0" Nate Howard, who was the NCAA Division III  rebounding leader, as he came into the contest with a 16.0 rebounds per game average. Howard only managed to grab 6 boards tonight, however, 10 below his average. Perez was ranked 13th in rebounding by the NCAA with 12.7 rpg and only played 18 minutes in this game while Howard was on the floor for 28 minutes for the Owls.

Shavar Fields continues to play well coming off the bench, as the big guy scored 16 points (6x8 fg, 4x6 ft) had 3 boards, 2 steals and a block in only 12 minutes of floor time. Both Shamoy McIntosh and Ezra Hodgson were credited with 14 points but there is an error in scorekeeping as McIntosh had a basket and was fouled at the 18:23 mark of the 1st period. The subsequent made free throw was somehow credited to Hodgson instead of McIntosh. So Shamoy had 15 points (4x8 fg, 2x4 3's, 5x5 ft) and Ezra finished with 13 points (5x8 fg, 3x5 3's, 0x2 ft). I'll have to talk to the SID and get that changed.

Point guard Chris Manning had his usual all around game, as he continues to amaze the Plattsburgh faithful with his speed, agility, and pinpoint passes. Tonight he only took 2 shots, made them both, was the 2nd leading rebounder in the game with 7 boards (despite being the smallest player on the floor among the starters for either team), had 8 assists and 3 steals. Manning once again leads the nation in steals with an average of 6.0 per game entering tonight's play.

The Cards ended up shooting 36x64 from the field (56.3%), 7x16 from downtown (43.8%) and 30x40 from the line (75%). They owned the boards, outrebounding the Owls 51-26, nearly a 2-1 margin. They did commit 24 turnovers which will give the coaching staff something to harp on, to keep them grounded, after putting up 109 points. This marked the first time the Cardinals had broken the century mark in over 3 years, the last time against Lyndon State on Nov 15th 2010, when they beat them 100-81 at Lyndon State. It was the first time the home fans got to see them break 100 since Nov 15 2009 when they defeated Lyndon State in Memorial Hall 103-81.

Keene State was led by their big man Nate Howard with 19 pts (7x12 fg, 5x6 ft) and 6 rebounds. Howard has a nice shot from the 8 to 10 foot range, that's pretty much unstoppable. I'm surprised they didn't go to him more often. Also exhibits decent footwork and is a solid free throw shooter. He needs to add some muscle and if he continues to develop will be a force over the next 2 years. Tre Tipton had 14 points (3x10 fg, 2x4 3's, 6x10 ft) and made some nice moves driving to the basket, just couldn't get the layups to fall. Did get to the line a lot though and had 4 steals. Lucas Hammel (4x11 fg) and Matt Sherlock 3x11 fg) both added 10 points for the Owls. Hammel also had 5 assists.

Keene ended up improving their shooting percentages after their poor first half stats. They ended up 24x62 from the field (38.7%), 4x14 from 3 point range (28.6%) and 24x33 from the stripe (72.7%) They ended up with 22 turnovers. The Owls are an extremely young team as they started 2 freshman, 2 sophomores, and a senior. The other 5 guys in their rotation tonight were 4 freshman and a sophomore. Their roster shows 14 players but only 10 guys were dressed tonight and all 10 had double digit minutes. These 10 guys, along with junior guard Tom Doyle, have been in the rotation all year. Doyle, normally a starter, has missed the past 3 games as he recuperates from an injury. This team should only improve over the next several years, as they gain experience and maturity.
The Owls drop to 0-5 for the season are next in action on Thursday Dec. 5th when they host Colby-Sawyer at 7:00 PM.

Plattsburgh State will be on the road this weekend to kick off conference play with one of their toughest road trips of the season. They will face Oswego State on Friday night at 8:00 PM and take on Cortland State on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM in a rematch of last years Conference Championship game. The Cardinals will be looking for a little revenge in that matchup. The Cardinals record  now stands at 3-1.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2013, 09:20:34 AM
Eastern Connecticut 77 New Paltz 53.

The Warriors from Eastern Connecticut made sure that the LEC-SUNYAC challenge wasn't a sweep by the New York teams. Eastern didn't blow out the Hawks as badly as Plattsburgh handled Keene State and in fact, the Warriors came out of the gate rather slowly and allowed New Paltz to take a 12-6 lead on a 3 pointer by RJ Rosa about 5 minutes into the contest. That would be the highlight of the evening for the Hawks however as Eastern went on a 23-2 run over the next 9 minutes and held a 29-14 lead with 6 minutes left in the period. That run was fueled by a pair of 3 pointers and a jumper by Preston Trachone. It was then completed with 4 consecutive baskets by Mike Garrow the last of which was a resounding dunk. They built the lead to a 20 point margin and settled for a 40-22 halftime bulge. The Warriors continued to pile on in the 2nd half and slowly extended their lead until it reached a game high 30 points at 66-36 with 8 minutes to go. The Eastern coach emptied his bench and the final margin was 24 points.

Preston Trachone led the Warriors with a game high 18 points (7x11 fg, 2x3 3's, 2x2 ft) and also had a game high 6 assists. Mike Garrow was 6x11 from the field for 12 points, while Brandon Yarborough was a perfect 4x4 from the filed and 2x2 from the line for a 10 point night. He added 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Mike Garrow also had 6 rebounds. Kevin Leumene came off the bench and had 9 points, 6 rebounds and 2 assists in 19 minutes. Sharpshooter Brian Salzillo had a relatively quiet night only making 3 of 9 from the field and 1 of 6 from long range. He did have 5 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal to go along with his 9 points.

Eastern Connecticut shot 30x58 from the field (51.7%), 5x15 from 3 point range (33.3%) and 12x21 from the line (57.1%). They won the battle off the glass 39-34 and had 13 turnovers to 18 for the Hawks.

New Paltz placed 3 players in double figures led by 16 apiece from Andrew Seniuk (7x8 fg, 1x1 3's, 1x3 ft) and RJ Rosa (6x11 fg, 4x6 3's). Seniuk had 4 rebounds and 3 assists, while Rosa grabbed 5 boards, had 2 assists, a steal and a block. Alex Perlman had 10 points off the bench (5x8 fg). Andrew Joseph led the team with 10 rebounds.

Not a good night shooting the rock for the Hawks, as they were 22x61 from the field (36.1%), only 6x22 from long range (27.3%) and barely got to the foul line making 3 of 5 (60%). The Hawks offensive woes continued as they once again couldn't reach the 60 point mark.  Their past 4 games have resulted in a 57.2 ppg scoring clip. Unless you're playing some great defense that won't get it done. 

Eastern's win moves them to 6-1 on the season with only a 4 point loss to Purchase keeping them from the unbeaton ranks. They will open conference play on Saturday 12-7 at 4:00 PM, when they host Rhode Island College in an early season matchup for LEC supremacy.

New Paltz drops to 2-4  and will also start conference play this weekend as they travel west to Fredonia on Friday Dec 6th at 8:00 PM before facing Buffalo State on Saturday afternoon at 4 :00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
Hartwick 86 Oneonta St 78 in Overtime. I didn't predict overtime but did have the final at 86-77. Missed it by a single point. 8-) Would gladly trade my prediction for an Oneonta win however.

Tough loss for the Red Dragons. They had a chance to win it in regulation but couldn't get the shots to fall. In overtime they fell behind by a point at 78-77 on an old fashioned 3 point play by Joey Lufkin. Needing to score on their next possession they committed a turnover and then another hoop and harm left them with a 4 point deficit to make up with only 1:34 on the clock. Oneonta missed a 3 pointer on their next  attempt and now with time winding down had to resort to fouling in hopes of getting  back into the game. The Hawks hit their free throws down the stretch however going 6 for 6 and came away with the win.

Zac Mager had another big game for the Red Dragons with 29 points (8x18 fg, 3x7 3's, 10x11 ft) to lead all scorers and 5 rebounds. Dan Lee with a double double of 13 pts (5x13 fg, 2x7 3's, 1x1 ft) and 13 rebounds. Lee also had a game high 6 assists. Mikey McElroy added 10 points. Still no Frankie Kelly for Oneonta yet this year.

Jared Suderley had the hot hand for the Hawks with 23 points (8x18 fg, 7x8 ft) and just missed a double double with 9 rebounds, as did Kyle Bradley, who  tossed in 17 points (7x12 fg, 3x5 ft) and grabbed 9 boards. Mike Gessier had 11 points, and Joey Lufkin added 10.

Oneonta falls to 1-3 and travels west to take on Buffaslo State for the start of conference play on Friday night at 8:00 PM. Then it's pn to Fredonia Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM.

Hartwick evened their record at 4-4 and won't be back in action until Monday 12-30 when they host Hobart at 3:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
Two games on tap tonight in the Wendy's Classic

Brockport vs RIT at Geneseo

This game pits the #1 seed against the #8 seed. Brockport should win this game by double digits probably something like 83 -61



St. John Fisher at Geneseo

Should be a close game in this matchup with the 4 and 5 seeds squaring off. I like the fact that Geneseo has a solid core of returning players and they execute their offense with a great deal of discipline. The oddsmakers have made the Blue Knights a 6 point favorite. I think they will defeat the Cardinals by a 74-70 score.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2013, 11:17:13 PM
Cortland State 79 Ithaca 63      Tuesday 12-3

The Red Dragons continued their recent dominance over the Ithaca Bombers as they won their 3rd straight game in this central NY rivalry. Ithaca was down by 7 points early on at 16-9 but they went on a 16-0 run fueled by 6 points from Frank Mitchel, a triple from Christian Jordan and 7 of 8 free throws made over the next 3:30 to make it a 25-16 Bomber advantage, the largest lead in the first half by either team. Each time the Red Dragons would cut the lead to a single possession the Bombers' Sam Bevan, Tom Sweeney or Mitchell would connect on a basket or 3 pointer to boost the lead back up a notch. This went on right up to the final 1st half buzzer and the Bombers went into the break with a 37-29 advantage.

Cortland came out of the break with a 15-3 run of their own to regain the lead at 44-40 with 4 minutes gone by in the period. After the Bombers hit a 3 pointer to pull within 1, Cortland went on another 12-3 spurt to move in front by 10 points at 56-46. Still up by 12 at 71-59 with 2:13 to go the Bombers were forced to foul and Cortland didn't miss as they opened up their largest lead of the night at 18 points, 79-61. Cortland got a big night from Kevin McMahon with 27 point and 12 rebounds. Lamard Herron was close behind with 26 points while Garen Spendjian had 10.

Cortland shot the ball a little better than Ithaca as they were 25x59 from the field (42,4%), 11x22 from 3 point land (50%) and 18x27 (66.6%) from the line. They had 38 boards to 33 for the Bombers and only had 8 turnovers to 14 for the Bombers.

Ithaca was led by Sam Bevan with 17 points, and Christian Jordan with 14 points. Frank Mitchell had 12 points with 12 rebounds. Bombers shot 23x56 (41.1%) 6x20 from long range (30 %) and 11x15 (73.3%) from the stripe. 

Cortland improved to 3-0 and will start conference play this weekend as they host Potsdam on Friday night and Plattsburgh on Saturday afternoon.

Ithaca is now 2-4 and will host St. Lawrence on Saturday at 4:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2013, 11:24:18 PM
Wednesday night action:

Brockport defeats RIT 83-61   The Golden Eagles grabbed an early lead and were never headed as they coasted to a win


Geneseo falls to St John Fisher 87-79 as the Blue Knights blow an 11 point 2nd half lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on December 05, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
SJF gets a good 2nd half from Ryan, Ambielli and clutch plays from Hart to get the win over Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 04:22:12 AM
Gordon Lyons of Geneseo State was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week  for week #3. here's the write up from the YAC website:

"Lyons scored a game-high 24 points, including the game-winning put-back as time expired, to go along with nine rebounds as the Knights escaped with a 76-74 victory at Medaille, Monday night. Lyons shot 10-of-16 from the field, and also registered four points and three steals in the win."

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 06:56:21 AM
All 10 teams in action today as conference play begins.

Friday Dec. 6th

St. John Fisher  vs    Brockport State      6:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic @ Roberts Wesleyan

Good test for both teams. Fisher is 1-1 in SUNYAC play losing to Buffalo State by 8 and beating Geneseo by 8 in a come from behind win Wednesday night. Freshman Keegan Ryan is the real deal for the Cardinals and could prove to be a handful for the Golden Eagles. Ryan was held in check by Geneseo in the 1st half of Wednesday night's contest but broke out for 14 points in the 2nd half to help turn an 11 point deficit into the win. Brockport hopes their quickness and guard play will carry them. Point spread has the Golden Knights favored by a 6 point margin. I'll go with Brockport to win 84-79.
     

Geneseo State  at   Rochester Tech      8:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic  @ RIT

Blue Knights can't be happy they let one slip away on Wednesday evening. Not about to make the same mistake here. RIT's loss to Brockport the other night was their 1st defeat after opening the season with 5 wins. The competition got a little tougher against Brockport, however, and tonight they will find more of the same. I'm surprised the oddsmakers have made RIT a slim 1 point favorite. I think that Geneseo will win this matchup by double digits. Something like 76-65.
     

New Paltz State  at   Fredonia State      8:00 PM

Two teams desperately is search of a win. Both enter tonight's game with 2-4 records. Both coming off double digit losses. At least the Hawks loss was against a quality team. Offense has been a problem for New Paltz lately, struggling to score 60 points. I think they break out of that slump tonight. Point spread favors the Hawks by 5 and I'll go with that...New Paltz 74-69 over the Blue Devils.
   
   
Potsdam State  at  Cortland State      8:00 PM

The Bears haven't had much luck against Cortland lately having lost 4 in a row to the Red Dragons and 11 of 14 over the past 7 years. I don't see that changing much in tonight's game. Cortland is undefeated at 3-0 and coming off a 16 point win against rival Ithaca on Tuesday night. Bears on a 4 game losing streak, found themselves on the short end of a 69-67 score at St. Lawrence the other night. Point spread has the Red Dragons favored by a whopping 21 points. I don't think this one will be pretty either. Bears will fall once again by a 76-58 margin.   

   
   
Oneonta State  at  Buffalo State      8:00 PM

Both schools on a 3 game losing streak but the Bengals have faced stronger opponents. Two of Buffalo State's losses have been by 2 points each and could easily have been games in the win column. Oneonta also with a couple of close losses that could have went either way. Point spread has the Bengals listed as a 7 point favorite and if the boys from the Queen City need any motivation they only need to look as far back as their last game against these Red Dragons when Oneonta pulled off a 72-67 upset. That game this past February was a loss that basically prevented the Bengals from making the SUNYAC playoffs last season. Bengals have won 3 of the last 4 games but Oneonta leads the series 7-4 over the past 7 years. I think the Bengals have more scoring options than the Red Dragons and revenge is a great incentive. Bengals win this one 90-81.
 

Plattsburgh State  at  Oswego State      8:00 PM

This is the featured game of the night and should be closely contested. Both teams with early season success as Oswego sports a 4-1 record with only a loss to visiting Neumann College by a 69-58 margin. Cardinals have a 3-1 log marred only by a 78-74 road loss to Richard Stockton. Of minor interest is the fact that Richard Stockton traveled to Neumann College and handily beat the Knights by a score of 101-79. It's the old "we played well against the team, that beat the heck out of the team, that beat you by double digits." Sometimes that logic works and sometimes it's useless. I look at the recent history of the Cards and the Lakers, which shows that Plattsburgh won both games last year, but the Lakers won 4 in a row previous to that, during the Chad Burridge era. The Cardinals hold an 8-6 edge over the past 7 years. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a road favorite here and pick them to win by a 4 point margin. I think that the Cardinals, who won a close game at Oswego last year, when the Lakers were a bit stronger than they are this year, should prevail.  The talent lost through the graduation of Hayden Ward, Sean Michele, and Chris Gilke hasn't been replaced. Daniel Ross, Kyle Covley and Rashawn Powell are fine players and are certainly capable of leading the Lakers to a win here, but I think that the Cardinals, who lost very little from last year's team, should be up for the challenge.  John Perez, Shamoy McIntosh, Chris Manning, Jordan Moody and Ezra Hodgson all return as starters from a team that was 20-8 and made the 2nd round of the NCAA's.  If they play like they did on Tuesday night (109-76 win) they'll blow out the Lakers. I expect they'll be a bit more down to earth though, and see them winning this game by a 78-70 score.     
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2013, 06:25:20 PM
Oh wise and sage 1. I sure hope u r right about at least 2 of ur predictions tonight :)

I am wondering if either you or Hawkbill can tell me what's up with Sowah??  I noticed that he didn't at versus East Conn.  No mention as to why he was not on the bench Tuesday night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2013, 06:25:20 PM
Oh wise and sage 1. I sure hope u r right about at least 2 of ur predictions tonight :)

I am wondering if either you or Hawkbill can tell me what's up with Sowah??  I noticed that he didn't at versus East Conn.  No mention as to why he was not on the bench Tuesday night.

I don't have a clue why Sowah wasn't playing, and Hawkball hasn't been around because the Hawks haven't been winning. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 07:24:33 PM
Brockport was leading St. John Fisher 35-27 at the half. The Golden Eagles have now more than doubled that advantage and are up   58-40 just 7:30 into the 2nd half. John Ivy with 19 points to lead all scorers so far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 08:03:41 PM
Brockport defeats St. John Fisher 73-61 to advance to the championship game of the Wendy's College Classic. They will face the winner of the Rochester vs Roberts Wesleyan game coming up shortly.  That champiobship game will be Saturday evening at 8:00 PM at Roberts Wesleyan.


John Ivy led the Golden Eagles with 26 points. Patrick Coyle was next with 9 points. Bobby Bell and Clifton Lyerly had 8 each.

Keegan Ryan led the Cardinals with 13 points and 8 rebounds. Matt Cooney had 11 and Chaz Lott had 10.

Fisher will play the loser of the Rochester/Roberts Wesleyan game for 3rd place tomorrow at 3:00 PM at Roberts Wesleyan
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 08:42:42 PM
Buffalo State with a big lead over Oneonta as they lead 47-25 at the half.  Justin Mitchell with 16 and 7 rebounds. Rod Epps with 10 points are the leaders for the Bengals. MIkey McElroy with 8 and Zac mager with 7  pace the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 08:46:04 PM
Cortland leads Potsdam 38-26 at halftime. Bears without big man Rob Duquette. 

Lamard Herron with 21 points at the half to lead all scorers. TJ Hefele is next with 9 points for Cortland.

Potsdam is led by Zac Adams with 7 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 08:55:48 PM
Oswego State looking to topple Plattsburgh as they have led from the start and go into the break up 39-28.

Plattsburgh playing sloppy on both ends of the floor and the Lakers are taking advantage of their mistakes. Brian Sortino and Daniel Ross lead Oswego with 10 points each.

Jordan Moody with 8 points and Ed Correa with 6 lead the Cardinals. Cards had more than twice as many points at halftime on Tuesday night. Used up their allotment for the week I guess. Better get their act together in the first part of this upcoming period or it could be a long weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
New Paltz with a slim lead over Fredonia at the break, 38-35. Nick Taldi with 9 for the Hawks. Taylor Sowah is in the lineup tonight for the Hawks and has 3 points.  Tyrone Clark leads Fredonia and all scorers with 17 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
Geneseo leads RIT 60-47 with 6:48 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 09:13:14 PM
Potsdam giving Cortland all they can handle as they trail the Red DRagons 49-45 with 10:40 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 09:15:15 PM
Plattsburgh comes from 12 points behind to tie Oswego at 49 with 11 minutes left to play.

A steal and layup by Shamoy McIntosh gives the Cardinals their first lead of the game at 53-51 with10 minutes left. Shavar Fields score after an Oswego turnover and the Cards now lead 55-51.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 09:30:44 PM
BUffalo State defeats Oneonta by an 89-68 score to temporarily move into sole possession of 1st place int he YAC. ;D

Justin Mitchell with a big night with 27 points and 12 rebounds.  Rod Epps with 17 points, Jordan Glover with 11 and Lovell Smith with 10.

Jackson Zuvic was the high man for the Red Dragons with 23 points and 5 boards. Zach Mager had 14 points and Mikey McElroy had 12. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 09:35:54 PM
Geneseo defeats RIT 72-55. Gordon Lyons leads all scorers with 21 points for the Blue Knights.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 09:41:15 PM
Cortland defeats Potsdam State 78-53 by outscoring the Bears 29-8 over the last 10 minutes of the game to pull away from a 4 point lead and win going away. LAmard Herron with 34 points for Cortland. TJ Hefele with 15. Bears led by Josh Blagrove with 10 points.


Oswego leads Plattsburgh 65-62 with 2 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2013, 10:16:47 PM
Brockport looks like they havent missed a beat since last year. I'm surprised that Brandon carruthers name was not mentioned in Magics report ( must have scored less than 6)?. Here's hoping that they run the table tommorrow against whomever and that Geneseo wins again!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 10:48:56 PM
New Paltz defeats Fredonia by a 72-67 score.

Nick Taldi led the Hawks with 15 points and Zach Cone-Douglas added 10 points.

The Blue Devils got 30 points from Tyrone Clark (10x 19 fg, 4x11 3's, 6x7 ft). He had 6 boards, 2 assists, 3 blocks and 5 steals. No other Blue Devil hit double figures. John Kovach had 10 rebounds and 6 points.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2013, 11:17:23 PM
Oswego holds off the Plattsburgh State Cardinals and comes away with a 73-70 win. The last 2 minutes took at least 20 minutes to play. Heck the last 50 seconds took 10 minutes to play. Good hard fought game but the Cardinals certainly left a lot of their game on the bus. Kyle Covely's 3 pointer with 1:20 to play and the Lakers clinging to a 65-62 lead was the key basket of the game. It gave them a 6 point lead and despite an off balance 3 by Jordan Moody with 3 seconds left it was too much to overcome. The Cardinals didn't help themselves by going 3 for 7 from the line in the last 1:06. Moody's 3 pointer made it a 71-70 score and the Cardinals fouled on the inbound pass. Brian Sortino made both free throws to build the lead back to three points and Plattsburgh's desparation shot at the buzzer was no good and too late.

Sortino led all scorers with 24 points while shooting 7x13 from the field and 10x13 from the line. Daniel Ross added 18 points and 5 rebounds.

Shavar Fields once again came off the bench to lead the Cardinals with 17 points on 6x12 shooting and 5x8 from the line. Jordan Moody with 16 points, Shamoy McIntosh with 14 points and Ed Correa with 10 points were the other top scorers. John Perez had his streak of double doubles end at 4 as he was limited to just 5 points. He did grab 11 rebounds to lead everyone in that category.

Oswego wil go for the North Country sweep tomorrow as they face Potsdam at 4 PM while the cardinals take on Cortland in a rematch of last year's championship game, also at 4 PM.



5-1 with my picks tonight but would gladly exchange that for a 1-5 record if my 1 loss was a win. :(

Correctly picked Geneseo to win by double digits even though RIT was favored.

Had the exact margin of victory in the New Paltz-Fredonia game of 5 points. I had it 74-69...it was 72-67

Also pretty close with my Cortland pick. I had it 76-58....actual was 78-53. My totsl was just 3 points off.

Brockport win and Buffalo State win were both expected but not by the margins of victory

Actually was very close to the actual score in my 1 loss as I had Plattsburgh winning 78-70 Actual score was 73-70 with the Lakers of course on top.

I predict that Buffalo state will be tied with Oswego State for first place in the conference after tomorrow's games. 4 teams will be 1-1 Cortland, Plattsburgh, Oneonta and New Paltz. 2 teams will be 0-2, Potsdam and Fredonia. Brockport will hopefully win the Wendy's Classic and Geneseo will win their game against Hobart. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 02:29:32 AM
Saturday December 7th All ten teams in action again.

Geneseo State  vs    Hobart      3:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic @ St. John Fisher @ Rochester, N.Y.   5th place game   

Potsdam State   at   Oswego State      4:00 PM 
   
New Paltz State   at  Buffalo State      4:00 PM 
   
Oneonta State  at   Fredonia State      4:00 PM

Plattsburgh State  at  Cortland State      4:00 PM   
   
Brockport State   at   Roberts Wesleyan      8:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic  Championship Game 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on December 07, 2013, 07:51:10 AM
Haha...Magic...some of us have to do a thing called 'real work'!  ;)

No doubt it's been a tough stretch for the Hawks...Sowah was out last Tuesday vs. Eastern Conn because I believe he was a little banged up after the game vs. Mount St Mary's...guess Coach Rejniak wanted rest him before conference play.

Hope we show up this afternoon but Mitchell has been a force...must be fun to have a scorer Bengals!...

Hawks need to put the ball in the bucket...they've had as many looks on offense as their opponents but their shooting % is not good. They're young and need to learn to execute under pressure.

Anyway...go Hawks!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on December 07, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
very surprised Brockport hasnt struggled with these new fouls rules. Many sources say Ivy couldve been fouled out in the first half. we will see how it plays out later in the season
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on December 07, 2013, 11:04:45 AM
Very impressed with Brockport though.. they look very good! SUNYAC looks tremendous this year. Oswego, Plattsburgh, Geneseo, Brockport, Buff State. Wouldn't be surprised if any of these teams win the league this year
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on December 07, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Hey look there is a SUNY College in the D 3  top 25 and they beat one of the top SUNYAC schools.  Interesting to see how this will pan out.  If I were in charge of this conference I would be looking to add Purchase.  Year in and year out they at the top of their conference.  As the game against Brockport shows they can play with the other SUNY colleges, unlike my beloved Bears.
Looks like another long winter in the north country.  Well at least there is Canton on the schedule so that we don't go 0 for the season.  If Potsdam could figure out how to change the game to a 30 minute game our record would be greatly improved.  Then they play the last 10 minutes like they are on their last breath.  I believe when I was a younger lad it was called conditioning.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: hawkball on December 07, 2013, 07:51:10 AM
Haha...Magic...some of us have to do a thing called 'real work'!  ;)

No doubt it's been a tough stretch for the Hawks...Sowah was out last Tuesday vs. Eastern Conn because I believe he was a little banged up after the game vs. Mount St Mary's...guess Coach Rejniak wanted rest him before conference play.

Hope we show up this afternoon but Mitchell has been a force...must be fun to have a scorer Bengals!...

Hawks need to put the ball in the bucket...they've had as many looks on offense as their opponents but their shooting % is not good. They're young and need to learn to execute under pressure.

Anyway...go Hawks!

Welcome back my friend to the show that never ends. ;D

Good to see you're still tuning in once in a while.  I realize you may have to work and can't put in the time some of us do but we would like to hear from you at least a couple of times  a week. ???

Hawks are young. Loss of Deveino McRae hurt big time. Will he be back next semester?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2013, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: hawkball on December 07, 2013, 07:51:10 AM
No doubt it's been a tough stretch for the Hawks...Sowah was out last Tuesday vs. Eastern Conn because I believe he was a little banged up after the game vs. Mount St Mary's...guess Coach Rejniak wanted rest him before conference play.

"Banged up"..."rest him"? If that's the case then hats off to Rejniak. With 8 days between games Mt St Marys 11/26- Eastern Conn 12/3 he needs to still "rests a player" for SUNYAC play?! I wish we had that luxury.

Here's to hoping that after playing 30 minutes vs. Fredonia yesterday he is taking some much needed "rest" today! ;)

Ps Hawkbill...Welcome back to the boards. I must admit though. Some of my best D3hoops stuff/writings comes while I'm at work! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 03:07:29 PM
Time to do some more crystal ball gazing.


Saturday December 7th All ten teams in action again.

Geneseo State  vs    Hobart      3:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic @ St. John Fisher @ Rochester, N.Y.   5th place game

Tough game to predict but I'm rooting for the Blue Knights. Point spread favors the Statesmen by a 5 point margin. I'm picking Geneseo to win a barnburner 78-77.
   


Potsdam State   at   Oswego State      4:00 PM

Bears' woes likely to continue against the Lakers. Especially with no Duquette in the lineup for Potsdam. Bears have lost 10 straight games to Oswego and 7 of those were by double digit margins. Point spread has Oswego winning by 14. If the Lakers play as good as they did last night it will be more.  I'll go with an Oswego win here 77-57. Sure would like to see an upset here. I would certify it as a miracle if it happens. :o


   
   
New Paltz State   at  Buffalo State      4:00 PM

Hawks won the final matchup of these teams last spring which was a big factor in the Bengals lack of post season play. Bengals have won 3 of the past 4 meetings however and lead the series 8-5 over the past 7 years. Buffalo State has been averaging quite a few more ppg than the Hawks. New Paltz finally got more than 70 points last night for the first time in 5 games. They may score 70 points tonight but the Bengals will score in the 80's. Oddsmakers have the Bengals favored by 9 points. I think they win by more than that. I'll go with an 88-72 final.



   
Oneonta State  at   Fredonia State      4:00 PM

Oneonta only won 3 conference games last year. Fredonia won the same number. These teams took turns beating each other at home. I don't think the Blue Devils will win any more than 3 conference games this year and if they don't win tonight they may not win more than two. Oneonta has improved this year but will still struggle to make the playoffs. They are, however, a better team than Fredonia. I'm not sure they can win on the road, but I expect them to win 3 or 4  conference games at home. Oddsmakers think they can win this game as they have installed them as 5 point favorites. I'm a Zach Mager fan so I'll go with the Red Dragons to win 75-68.




Plattsburgh State  at  Cortland State      4:00 PM

For the 2nd day in a row the Cardinals are in the featured Game of the Day. Hard to say this is a must win for Plattsburgh when it's only the 2nd conference game of the year, but that's what I'm calling it, a must win. Falling 2 games behind so many teams right off the bat could prove fatal to the Cardinals' hopes to host the conference tournament in February. (Not to mention MY hopes ::))
Cortland has had the Cards number the past few years, winning 5 of the past 6 matchups. Cortland still undefeated on the year and looking to prove that they have reloaded after graduating so much talent. Oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 6 point favorite.  Last year I told Fran Elia, Cortland's SID, that this year my Cardinals would have their revenge. I hope that's the case today. Plattsburgh wins a close one 76-72.


   
   
Brockport State   at   Roberts Wesleyan      8:00 PM 
Wendy's College Classic  Championship Game

Not much to go on here as Roberts Wesleyan isn't a D3 team. Nice wins over Nazareth and Rochester to get to the championship game however. First time that I can recall the Redhawks playing for the title in recent tournament history. Oddsmakers have favored the Golden Eagles by a 6 point margin and I, homer that I am, will also pick them to come away with the prize. I think the final score might be 79-71 Brockport. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 03:45:35 PM
Geneseo leading Hobart 46-28 at the half. Blue Knights were up 37-27 with 2:50 left in the period and go on a 9-1 run to end the half.

James McKenna leads Geneseo with 13 points. Connor Fedge has 11 and Matt Curry with 10.

Connor Rehbaum is the high man for Hobart with 9 points and Richie Bonney has 7.

Hope the Blue Knights don't repeat Wednesday's script where they gave up a double digit lead to Fisher and found themselves on the short end of the final score. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 04:45:11 PM
Cortland's Lamard Herron with a 3 pointer with 5 seconds left in the period to give the Red Dragons a 33-31 halftime lead. This game has been a battle from the outset with neither team able to gain much of a lead. Never more than 5 points separating these 2 clubs.

Mike Mitchell leads the Cardinals with 9 points on 3 x4 from downtown.  Seven other Plattsburgh players hit the scoring column with John Perez, Shamoy McIntosh and Shavar Fields with 4 each. McIntosh with 6 boards and Fields with 5.

Herron leads Cortland with 11 points with 2x3 from long range. Tyree Glascoe with 7, Kevin McMahon with 6 and Garen Spendjian with 5. McMahon and Matt McGowan with 4 boards each.

Lots of turnovers in the game with 11 by Plattsburgh and 8 by Cortland. Neither team scorching the nets either.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 04:47:16 PM
Buffalo State leads New Paltz 47-46 at the break.

Justin Mitchell with 15 and Rod Eppps with 8 for the Bengals.

Andrew Joseph with 12 and Taylor Sowah with 7 for the Hawks.

Surprising New Paltz giving the Bengals a run for their money.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 04:58:02 PM
Oswego State all over Potsdam 41-16 at the break.

No stats available
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 05:00:22 PM
Oneonta up 25-22 over Fredonia at the break but has now moved in front 51-34 with 10:30 left to go.

No stats available for this game either.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 05:07:25 PM
Geneseo defeats  #23 Hobart 82-73 to win the 5th place game of the Wendy's Classic. I guess Hobart was slightly over ranked in this week's Top 25 poll.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 05:25:23 PM
Oneonta defeats Fredonia 67-54.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 05:27:07 PM
Plattsburgh and Cortland going down to the wire as the Cardinals lead 59-56 with 2:40 to go.

Three pointer by Lamard Herron with 2:18 left to tie it up

Jumper by Kevin McMahon with 1:18 left  Cortland leads 61-59 time out Plattsburgh.

Mike Mitchell buries his 6th 3 pointer of the game to give the Cards a 62-61 lead with 45 seconds left. Cortland takes a time out. 35 seconds left.

Cortland's Spendjian goes in for the layup and Shamoy McIntosh blocks it. Plattsburgh gets the rebound and Mike Mitchell is fouled. He makes the 1st and Cortland calls a time out.  17 seconds left to play.

Mitchell makes the 2nd to give the Cards a 3 point lead. Cortland comes down, loses the ball and McIntosh is fouled. He misses both free throws and Cortland comes down with a chance to tie it up. Herron with a three pointer at the buzzer but comes up short and the Cardinals win 64-61. I'm exhausted. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 05:42:27 PM
Oswego in front of Potsdam 71-49 with 4 minutes left to go.

Buffalo State pulling away from New Paltz 100-88 with 2 minutes left in the game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
Final scores

Plattsburgh 64 Cortland 61     

I had this 76-72 Plattsburgh  Defense produced turnovers galore and neither team shot very well except for the smallest guy in the game, Mike Mitchell for the Cardinals, who was 6x8 from the field and all 6 were 3 pointers, none bigger than the last one he hit with 45 seconds left in the game that gave Plattsburgh the lead for good at 62-61. Lamard Herron shot the ball well for the Red Dragons hitting 7x14 from the field and 4x8 from long distance.

 

Buffalo State 109 New Paltz 99

I said it would be a Buff State win 88-72. Forgot it was track meet when these two hook up.

 

Oswego State 78 Potsdam 49

I guessed it would be 77-57 Oswego. I was close on the Lakers end but the Bears couldn't get it going as they were never in this game.



Oneonta 67 Fredonia 54

I had it in favor of Oneonta 75-68. Thought there would be a little more offense from both teams. Zac Mager didn't let me down though as his 21 points and 7 rebounds were game high totals in both categories.




Geneseo 82 Hobart 73

Happy for the Blue Knights.  I had them winning 78-77 but they grabbed the lead and kept it throughout. I guess they learned a lesson the other night. They lost one they would like to have back against Fisher but this one looks even better on the resume. Helps out the YAC as well.


5 for 5 so far today with the Golden Eagles of Brockport playing tonight at 8:00 PM. Looking for the sweep. Need John Ivy and Brandon Caruthers to be at their best.



Brockport 81 Roberts Wesleyan 52.

Brockport doesn't disappoint me as Mr. Ivy and Mr. Caruthers come through and lead the Golden Eagles to the Championship of the Wendy's Classic. I had this one 79-71 Brockport and only missed the Eagles total by 2 points. Thought the Redhawks, with their wins over Nazareth and Rochester would score a few more than the 52 they got against Port.

11-1 with my picks over the past 2 days. Let's see which game was the one I lost? Oh yeah my Plattsburgh Cardinals. I will let the boys know about that in practice this week.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hawkball on December 07, 2013, 06:21:05 PM
Tough loss for the Hawks heading into Christmas break - but what a game!

Wish I could have watched this live...guess the offense woke up but what happened to defense?? Mitchell and Doyley combined for a crazy 58 pts.

Nice to see Donovan and Sowah light it up tonight for NP - looks like from the box score Hawks lost this one due to TOs - 25 to Buff St's 10.

Looking forward to this rematch in the Hawk Center later this year.

Not sure about McCrae...no one seems to much about it...Very frustrating to lose a ROY like that...Hawks lack a true big under the boards - although we out rebounded Buff St 46-36 tonight -- so it isn't impacting us in that dept...

Enjoy the holdiays all...I'll try and be a more diligent poster in the 2nd 1/2 of the season.  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 09:41:47 PM
Brockport was ahead of Roberts Wesleyan  41-20 at the half.

Now with 6:16 left in the game Brockport leads 75-48

Barring a huge comeback by Roberts Wesleyan the SUNYTAC teams did pretty well in the Wendy's Classic as they combined for a 5-1 record. That will help out our non-conference win percentage a little.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 10:13:36 PM
Congratulations to the Brockport Golden Eagles who defeated Roberts Wesleyan 81-52 to win the Championship of the Wendy's College Classic Basketball Tournament.

The Golden Eagles made it look easy as they beat every opponent they faced by a double digit margin. The 1st round was a win over RIT 83-61. The semi-finals saw them dispose of St John Fisher 73-61 and the final was the 29 point win over Roberts Wesleyan who had 2 nice wins over Nazareth and Rochester.

John Ivy was the leading scorer for the Golden Eagles in the tournament with 50 points and 10 rebounds. Brandon Caruthers had 36 points and 13 assists in the 3 games. Matt Lee totaled 25 points, 17 rebounds and 8 assists. Patrick Coyle managed 30 points and 24 rebounds during tournament play.

I'm guessing that Ivy was the MVP and both he and Caruthers were on the All Tournament Team.

Edit: Brandon Caruthers was chosen as the MVP of the tournament.      I said I was guessing. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2013, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: hawkball on December 07, 2013, 06:21:05 PM
Tough loss for the Hawks heading into Christmas break - but what a game!

Wish I could have watched this live...guess the offense woke up but what happened to defense?? Mitchell and Doyley combined for a crazy 58 pts.

Nice to see Donovan and Sowah light it up tonight for NP - looks like from the box score Hawks lost this one due to TOs - 25 to Buff St's 10.

Looking forward to this rematch in the Hawk Center later this year.

Not sure about McCrae...no one seems to much about it...Very frustrating to lose a ROY like that...Hawks lack a true big under the boards - although we out rebounded Buff St 46-36 tonight -- so it isn't impacting us in that dept...

Enjoy the holdiays all...I'll try and be a more diligent poster in the 2nd 1/2 of the season.  :D

"what a game"...indeed Hawkbill. I was there, got a free ticket from a coach (a friend of Magics'), although I would have paid for this 1! It was an offensive display for the ages.

Justin Mitchell clearly was the star of stars tonight. 35 points on 14-20 shooting (70%) to go along with 6 boards, 4 blocks and 3 steals. Add that to his Friday night total of 27 pts (13-17) 12 boards and 2 blocks and IMHO you have, not only the SUNYAC player of the week, but "easily" a member of the D3Hoops team of the week. I'm not sure who is responsible for nominating Justin for either of those (I'll ask Magicman) but I sure hope that they plan on doing just that! This kid put in work this weekend...with his injured left hand wrapped up!

Clearly he didn't do it by himself tonight. He had help. Bradley Doyley played like Bradley Doyley is supposed to play. On Nov 6th I wrote...Add soph Bradley Doyley who is taking over the pg  position from graduated senior Ant Hamer. Bradley has shown that he is ready for such a challenge in a tough PG conference. With guards like Manning at Plattsburgh and Ivy at Brockport, Bradley will face top notch competition each week in the 'Yac! I believe that he is up to the task!

   Tonight he showed that he was truly "up to the task"! His box score shows 23 pts. on 6 of 11 shooting...5 assists, 2 steals with only 1 turnover. Add that to Fridays totals of 5 pts, 8 assists, 2 steals and 0 turnovers and you have the makings of a bonafide point guard. 2 day totals...28 pts., 13 assists,4 steals and 1 turnover. I cant wait to see what his next turnover assist ratio looks like.

   Add the play of Rod Epps who had 17 points,7 boards, 3 blocks and took 2 charges!! Along with steady play from newcomers Chris Thompson 18 pts. and 8 boards, Legree Kirkland and freshman Jordan Glover, Rey Jordan, Lovelle Smith and Jovohn Owens (who held Andrew joseph scoreless for over a 7 min stretch in the 1st half) and you have the making of a good weekend!

                                                                   It should be noted that......
Tonight Justin Mitchell surpassed the 1,000 point mark for his career! No small mark for a kid who hasn't played collegiate ball in over 1 year!

IMHO..If he is not SUNYAC POW and D3Hoops team of the week, then something is wrong!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 07, 2013, 10:13:36 PM
Congratulations to the Brockport Golden Eagles who defeated Roberts Wesleyan 81-52 to win the Championship of the Wendy's College Classic Basketball Tournament.

The Golden Eagles made it look easy as they beat every opponent they faced by a double digit margin. The 1st round was a win over RIT 83-61. The semi-finals saw them dispose of St John Fisher 73-61 and the final was the 29 point win over Roberts Wesleyan who had 2 nice wins over Nazareth and Rochester.

John Ivy was the leading scorer for the Golden Eagles in the tournament with 50 points and 10 rebounds. Brandon Caruthers had 36 points and 13 assists in the 3 games. Matt Lee totaled 25 points, 17 rebounds and 8 assists. Patrick Coyle managed 30 points and 24 rebounds during tournament play.

I'm guessing that Ivy was the MVP and both he and Caruthers was on the All Tournament Team.

+1 on the congrats to Brockport. Bodes well for the 'Yac. With only 21 non-conference games left for the 'Yac before full fledge war begins, this is a good sign. 5-1 in a tourney with Hobart, U of Rochester and Nazareth, has to be good for the Yac!  :)

PS I couldn't help but notice that Geneseo is playing @ Puget Sound in Tacoma Washington on 12/30 for a 1 game trip? I'm wondering if there is a 2nd game that is not posted yet on the SUNYAC schedule. Seems like 1 helluva journey for 1 game! I could be wrong. Heck I bet the Bills to win the superbowl this past  summer :-[  so I have been wrong before! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
PS I couldn't help but notice that Geneseo is playing @ Puget Sound in Tacoma Washington on 12/30 for a 1 game trip? I'm wondering if there is a 2nd game that is not posted yet on the SUNYAC schedule. Seems like 1 helluva journey for 1 game! I could be wrong. Heck I bet the Bills to win the superbowl this past  summer :-[  so I have been wrong before! ;)

If you would have looked at Geneseo's schedule you wouldn't have to wonder!! ;D  Since they already have 25 games listed, you, of all people, would know that they certainly don't want to schedule #26. ??? ;D

But I do agree with you...it's a hell of a road trip for 1 game. :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2013, 12:25:22 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 07, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
PS I couldn't help but notice that Geneseo is playing @ Puget Sound in Tacoma Washington on 12/30 for a 1 game trip? I'm wondering if there is a 2nd game that is not posted yet on the SUNYAC schedule. Seems like 1 helluva journey for 1 game! I could be wrong. Heck I bet the Bills to win the superbowl this past  summer :-[  so I have been wrong before! ;)

If you would have looked at Geneseo's schedule you wouldn't have to wonder!! ;D  Since they already have 25 games listed, you, of all people, would know that they certainly don't want to schedule #26. ??? ;D

But I do agree with you...it's a hell of a road trip for 1 game. :o

5,354 mile "road" trip... for 1 game.... to be exact!! They probably would have been better off, $$$ wise, with just 24 games? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2013, 07:01:45 AM
Plattsburgh State 64 Cortland 61

The featured SUNYAC  "Game of the Day" certainly lived up to its billing, as the Red Dragons and Cardinals played a contest that was in doubt right up until the final whistle. This game was a see saw battle battle with both teams committing numerous turnovers and steals as a result of the defensive pressure that was applied. The biggest lead in the 1st half was 5 points which only occurred  on one occasion as a single possession was usually the margin that separated the teams. There were 10 lead changes and 7 ties before Lamard Herron got the final exchange, nailing a 3 pointer that came with just 5 seconds left on the clock, to give the Red Dragons a 33-31 halftime edge. Key play for the Cardinals in the period came from back up point guard Mike Mitchell. Mitchell came off the bench and buried 3 huge trifectas for Plattsburgh, that twice rallied the Cardinals. His 3rd three pointer gave them their biggest lead of the half.
 
The next 20 minutes were every bit as close as the previous 20 minutes. Five more ties and 7 lead changes would take place before the end of the game.  The Cardinals quickly tied it up on 2 Shavar Fields' free throws but Cortland opened up the largest lead of the contest with back to back triples by Herron and Michael Kelly to go on top 39-33. Cardinals would regain the lead on a pair of 3 point plays by Shamoy McIntosh (1 old fashioned variety and 1 trifecta variety) that wrapped around a layup by Jordan Moody and made it 42-41 with 13:27 left to play.  Three more lead changes and 2 ties later, the Red Dragons had moved in front by a 52-47 score, when a 3 pointer by Plattsburgh's Ezra Hodgson narrowed the gap with 7:54 remaining. Lamard Herron then hit a pair of free throws and followed that with a layup on the Red Dragons next possession to once again open up some daylight at 56-50 and match the largest lead of the game. That score came with 5:35 left to play and Cardinals Coach, Tom Curle, called a time out that seemed to help shift the momentum. He reinserted Mitchell back into the game and the smallest guy on the court once again lifted the Cardinals as he buried a deep 3 to cut the lead in half. Following a missed three point attempt by Cortland, Shamoy McIntosh drained a jumper that made it a 1 point game. A Cortland turnover, foul, and missed field goal led to a layup by the Cards John Perez, who then stole the ball and fed Ed Correa who was fouled. Correa made both free throws to give the Cards a 59-56 lead with 2:40 left, that set the stage for the exciting ending. Here was my play by play call from an earlier post.

"Plattsburgh and Cortland going down to the wire as the Cardinals lead 59-56 with 2:40 to go.

Three pointer by Lamard Herron with 2:18 left to tie it up

Jumper by Kevin McMahon with 1:18 left  Cortland leads 61-59 time out Plattsburgh.

Mike Mitchell buries his 6th 3 pointer of the game to give the Cards a 62-61 lead with 45 seconds left. Cortland takes a time out. 35 seconds left.

Cortland's Spendjian goes in for the layup and Shamoy McIntosh blocks it. Plattsburgh gets the rebound and Mike Mitchell is fouled. He makes the 1st and Cortland calls a time out.  17 seconds left to play.

Mitchell makes the 2nd to give the Cards a 3 point lead. Cortland comes down, loses the ball and McIntosh is fouled. He misses both free throws and Cortland comes down with a chance to tie it up. Herron with a three pointer at the buzzer but comes up short and the Cardinals win 64-61." 

The Cardinals were led by Mike Mitchell, who had his career high game for Plattsburgh with 20 points. Mike buried 6 three pointers in 8 attempts and all 6 were nothing but net. Most of them were several feet behind the arc and they all came at crucial points in the game, none bigger than his 6th and final one that gave the Cardinals the lead for good with 45 seconds left to play. Cortland webcast announcers were speaking about Mitchell with reverence and awe from the moment he nailed his first attempt through the end of the contest. Mitchell also took quite a pounding as he was constantly picking himself up off the floor due to head on collisions by various charging Red Dragons. He drew two offensive fouls but on, at least, 2 or 3 other occasions the ref (and it was the same one) didn't make the right call. One zebra didn't seem to know what constituted a charge and how it differed from a block. At one point the trailing official blew his whistle and was calling a charge when this other guy was calling a block. Poor Mike will have a few black and blues when he wakes up on Sunday, I'm sure.

Shamoy McIntosh was the only other Cardinal to hit double figures as he had 12 points and just missed a double double with 9 rebounds. Shamoy also had 4 steals, 2 assists and that huge block on Garen Spendjian's layup attempt that kept Plattsburgh in the lead with 23 seconds remaining. John Perez added 9 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Shavar Fields, given a rare start tonight, had 6 points and 9 rebounds. Point guard Chris Manning had 5 assists (seemed like more), 4 rebounds and a steal. The Cardinals got 31 points from their bench today which was the same amount that they received from the starting 5. Neither team shot the ball particularly well, as the Cards were 22x57 from the field (38.6%). They actually shot much better from 3 point range as they were 8x19 (42.1%) but that percentage is misleading because it's entirely due to Mitchell's 6x8.(75%) Take him out of the mix and the Cards were 2 for 17 from downtown (11.7%) Plattsburgh shot 12x17 (70.6%) from the line. They were slightly better than Cortland in the battle of the boards as they had 38 to the Red Dragons 35. There was also a close battle in the turnovers margin as Plattsburgh ended up with 14 and Cortland ended up with 17. Cortland had 10 steals and the Cards had 9.
Cortland shot nearly the same percentages as the Cards.  Dragons were 21x54 from the field (38.9%), 8x24 from long range (33.3%) and 11 x17 from the line (64.7%). Plattsburgh had 1 more made 2 point field goal and 1 more made free throw than did Cortland. They both went to the line 17 times, both had 8 three pointers, and their shooting percentage from the field was almost identical. This game was about as close statistically as you will ever find 2 teams to be.

Cortland was led by Lamard Herron with 21 points. He was 7x14 from the field and hit 4 of 8 from long distance. Herron also added 5 assists and 4 steals. Garen Spendjian had 12 points, 4 rebounds and 2 steals.  Red Dragons star Kevin McMahon, had a double double with a game high 16 rebounds, 10 points, 3 assists, 3 blocks and 2 steals.

Cortland drops their first game of the season as they are now 4-1 overall, 1-1 in conference play. They are off until next Saturday when they will host SUNYIT at 2:00 PM.

Plattsburgh State improves to 4-2 overall, 1-1 in the conference. The Cardinals will now be off for three weeks until they travel to Daytona Beach to take on 2 non conference opponents in the Land of Magic Classic.

First up on December 29th at 6 PM, is Millikin University, from the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin (CCIW). Millikin is in the midst of a major rebuilding program with a recently hired new coach (now in his 3rd year) and a talented roster of underclassmen. Last year they featured a primary rotation of 8 freshman and they improved from 1-24 to 8-17. This year they are off to a 5-2 mark and own a victory over Loras College, a team that has already knocked off Wheaton College, when they were ranked #5 in the country, and followed that up with a win over Illinois Wesleyan, when they were ranked #2 in the country. The Big Blue, as Millikin is known, will be no easy game for the Cardinals.

The next day the Cardinals will face an even tougher foe, in my opinion, as we take on Univ. of Wisconsin-Stout. from the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC) considered by many to be the strongest conference in the country. Currently the Massey Ratings have the WIAC conference ranked #3 and the CCIW conference ranked #4. Many times they are 1 & 2 and will probably end up there this year when it's all said and done. UW-Stout played current nationally ranked #4 UW-Whitewater on Saturday afternoon and defeated them by a 74-69 score. I'm fairly certain that UW-Stout will jump from the ORV category of the Top 25 into the rankings next week and could be as high as 19 or 20.

My Cardinals will certainly have their work cut out for them in the coming weeks. Right after the 2 Florida games we return home to Plattsburgh and get ready for our trip to Vermont on January 7th to take on the nationally ranked, #21 Middlebury Panthers, in what will be our final non-conference game of the regular season. The Panthers' conference (NESCAC) is the 5th ranked conference in the Massey Ratings. Even if we lose all three of those games we help out our conference just by playing that level of competition. And it certainly helps our team better prepare for the rigors of life on the road in the SUNYAC. (and hopefully the postseason ;))         
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2013, 07:08:16 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2013, 12:25:22 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 07, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
PS I couldn't help but notice that Geneseo is playing @ Puget Sound in Tacoma Washington on 12/30 for a 1 game trip? I'm wondering if there is a 2nd game that is not posted yet on the SUNYAC schedule. Seems like 1 helluva journey for 1 game! I could be wrong. Heck I bet the Bills to win the superbowl this past  summer :-[  so I have been wrong before! ;)

If you would have looked at Geneseo's schedule you wouldn't have to wonder!! ;D  Since they already have 25 games listed, you, of all people, would know that they certainly don't want to schedule #26. ??? ;D

But I do agree with you...it's a hell of a road trip for 1 game. :o

5,354 mile "road" trip... for 1 game.... to be exact!! They probably would have been better off, $$$ wise, with just 24 games? ???

I bet there's a certain coach and a whole bunch of players for Buffalo State that wouldn't mind making a 5354 mile road trip in the middle of the winter to a more temperate climate even if it is only for one game. ;D The costs be damned. (Ain't coming outta their pockets)  Whadda you think about that? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2013, 07:01:09 PM
I can do 1 better... I know 6 coaches and 14  Buff State basketball players who are going to Orlando Fla. for 5 days and 4 nights for 3 games (vs Carthage and North Central and the Orlando Magic vs Sacramento Kings). 81% there today. And its only 2004 miles round trip! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2013, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2013, 07:01:09 PM
I can do 1 better... I know 6 coaches and 14  Buff State basketball players who are going to Orlando Fla. for 5 days and 4 nights for 3 games (vs Carthage and North Central and the Orlando Magic vs Sacramento Kings). 81% there today. And its only 2004 miles round trip! :D

Now you're changing the parameters. ??? We weren't talking about Florida and 2 games and seeing the pros play. Buffalo State has obviously got a smart guy as their operations director :o and he was intelligent enough to choose a 2 game trip to Florida over a 1 game trip to the West coast. 8-) However, if your choice was a 1 game trip to Washington, or no trip at all, I think you'd be leaving on a jet plane as fast as you could. ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
Damn it.  >:( I just can't win with you!!   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2013, 04:57:30 PM
These were the Massey Ratings for the Top 13 teams in the East Region several weeks ago on November 22nd.

#20   Cortland State

#41   Plattsburgh State

#42   Hobart

#47   NYU

#58   Nazareth

#76 Geneseo State

#88  Brockport State

#91  St. John Fisher

#94  Oswego State

#110 Stevens Tech

#117 Buffalo State

#119 Skidmore

#124 New Paltz


These are the Massey rankings for the top teams in the East Region as of today. SUNYAC teams occupy the top 3 spots and 5 of the top 6 positions.

#20  Brockport State.   Golden Eagles started the year at #87 went to 88 and now lead the East teams after going 3-0 and winning the 
                                   Wendy's tournament.   Record is 4-1   

#49  Plattsburgh State    Cardinals started the year at #69 moved as high as 41 dropped back into the 60's and gained 16 spots with
                                      the win over undefeated Cortland. Best Strength of Schedule in the East Region with #70 out of 413.
                                       Record is 4-2

#60  Cortland State      Red Dragons started the year ranked #21. They slowly tumbled down into the 30's despite remaining
                                   undefeated. The loss to Plattsburgh has them where they probably should be. Record is 4-1

#62  NYU                    Violets opened the year at #56 and moved up as high as 47. Still undefeated, but they continue to slide
                                   downward as their SOS is very weak. Have yet to beat a team with a winning record. Opponents a combined
                                    14-25. Stevens up next but even the Ducks are struggling at 3-3 this year. Record is 6-0

#78  Oswego State        Lakers started out with a low ranking at #152 and have slowly improved it as the wins have mounted. Low       
                                    SOS early on (as an example Plattsburgh's SOS is 70, Brockport's is 99...Oswego's is 237 and it's better than it
                                     was several weeks ago) kept them from moving up but recent wins especially over the Cards have them on
                                     the way up.  Record is 6-1

#101 Geneseo State      Blue Knights opened the year at #85 and went up into the 70's but then tumbled all the way down into the
                                    130's. Had more to do with the YAC as a whole, sliding down, than anything to do with Geneseo as they won
                                     their first 2 games. Their SOS of 228 didn't help them either. 2-1 at the Wendy's tournament sent them up
                                     35 spots and sent Hobart tumbling 65 placements. I saw that one coming. Record is 4-1

#110 Skidmore               Thoroughbreds opened the year at #143 improved slightly to 119 then 108 but slid back a bit after a close
                                      loss to nationally ranked Middlebury 89-84. They have a solid starting 5 but bench is weak as they have no
                                      depth to spell the starters. Could be the team to beat in the Liberty League. Record is 3-2

#116 St. John Fisher        These Cardinals started out at #96 moved up to 91 and then fell all the way down to #201 after an early
                                       loss and uninspired play by the E8 conference as a whole. Going 2-1 over the weekend in the Wendy's
                                       Tournament boosted them up 85 spots. They'll be in the hunt for the E8 crown. Freshman big, Keegan Ryan,
                                       will keep getting better. Record 3-2.

#118 Hobart                   The Statesmen opened at #72 climbed as high as 42, but slid into the 60's after a loss to Rochester and
                                      really tumbled after losing to Geneseo in the Wendy's Classic. Still a dangerous team and will likely duke it
                                      out with Skidmore for the Liberty League Crown. They have the same problem as Skidmore, a very short
                                      bench with nearly all the points coming from the starting unit.  Record 4-2

#138 Buffalo State           How fitting that the Bengals are the East team ranked right behind Hobart. Buffalo State lost 85-83 to the
                                      Statesmen back on 11-26. Bengals started the year out at #121 moved up to 117 and then fell into the high
                                      160's after a tough 3 game losing streak (2 games by a 2 point margin). Starting out 2-0 in the conference
                                      has lifted them up 30 spots over the weekend.  Let's keep it in the proper perspective though, the 2 teams
                                      they beat this weekend will probably not be in the top 6 fighting for the playoffs. Their next 2 games will tell
                                       us a lot about this club. SOS 5th best in the East but that will get better soon. Record 4-3

#147 Clarkson                Golden Knights  were #179 back on opening day. Slid to 190 before jumping up 43 spots to where they are
                                      now. I think this is an anomaly and Clarkson is rated too high. 2 of their 5 wins are against D3 provisional
                                      SUNY Canton and they have a loss against Rochester who is ranked #170. I think other East region teams
                                      will end up in front of the Golden knights when it's all said and done.  Record 5-2

#149 Stevens Tech          The Ducks were #124 at the start of the season and made it as high as #109 but tumbled all the way
                                       down to 189. Nice win 5 days ago against a good Baruch team. That boosted them up 40 spots. I
                                       expect they will be in the hunt for an E8 playoff spot, they usually are. Record 3-3

#170 Rochester                Yellowjackets  opened in the #138 spot. Much lower than they usually are ranked. They fell all the
                                        way down to #181 after the Oneonta loss to open the season. The win over Hobart and two 2 point losses
                                        in the Wendy's Classic have moved them up a bit.  Clearly not going to be a frontrunner in the East Region
                                        this year unless some huge changes are in the future. Record  4-5

Dropped out of Massey's Top 13 East Region teams: Nazareth and New Paltz replaced by Clarkson and Rochester.

Some other Massey rankings of East Teams in order:

#175   Vassar College           Was #300 early on, up 125 spots since the year started.   Record 4-1

#178   Nazareth College       Opened at #65 was as high as #58. On a downward spiral and now at a season low. I think
                                          they will move up though and challenge for an E8 playoff spot. Record 4-2

#187 Hartwick                     Started out at #149 and has went the other way. Plagued by inconsistent play. Will fight for
                                          a playoff spot. Record 4-4.

#232 RIT                            The Tigers opened in the #190 position moved up to #167 after opening with 5 wins but
                                          they were against weak competition. They lost 3 straight games and finished 8th out of
                                          8 teams in the Wendy's Classic. I guess that's why they were the 8th seed despite having
                                          the best record going into the tournament. Record 5-3

#236 Oneonta                     Red Dragons opened the year at #200 but quickly moved up to #139 after their opening
                                          season win over Rochester. It's been mostly downhill since then and they have steadily
                                          tumbled to their present position. I doubt things will get any better for them. Record 2-4

#242 Ithaca                       Bombers have disappointed so far this season. Started out at#135 and have continued
                                         their freefall as they dropped another 26 spots over the weekend. Maybe they will have a
                                         reversal of fortune similar to what occurred last year when they came on strong in the
                                         latter half of the season. Still think they are in the playoff hunt in the E8. Record is 3-4.

And some of the others without the commentary:


#261  Hilbert
#265  Alfred
#270  New Paltz
#292  Elmira
#301  Morrisville State
#306  Medaille
#314  Utica College
#319  St Lawrence   They should move up some
#336  RPI
#342  Bard
#347  SUNYIT
#348  Wells
#351  Union
#353  Potsdam State
#354  Keuka
#372  Fredonia State
#382  Cazenovia
#399  SUNY Cobleskill
#404  D'Youville
#406  Houghton

#158  Hamilton   Not in our region even though it's in our region ;D
#257  Sage              Ditto
                         


 
                                               
   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2013, 04:59:43 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2013, 03:58:17 PM
Damn it.  >:( I just can't win with you!!   ;)

Now you got it right. Finally. ;D  I'd give you a plus K except I gave you one last night and I can't repeat it yet.

Edit:      OK....24 hours are now up so I gave you another one. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2013, 05:31:45 PM
My man! :D

P.s. Good stuff on the massey info there oh Magic 1!. Gotta believe that a good winter tourney schedule and successes in those games i.e Plattsburgh vs #38 Wis-Stout, Buff State vs #78 Carthage and #99 North Central illinois, Oneonta vs #116 St. John Fisher and possibly Cortland facing # 52 Catholic University (in the CUA tourney), should bode well if we win more than we lose (especially Plattsburgh and Cortland).

As far as my beloved BENGALS ranking, I would agree with massey. Had we held on to leads vs. Hobart and Ohio Northern, in the last min, then undoubtly we would have fared better in his ranking. It's up to us to make Orlando a place where we show what we have. Plus it will be the first time all 14 BENGALS will be healthy (knock on wood)! :o

If anyone knows anything about Carthage or North Central from this season then please feel free to share. I know an assistant coach at Buff State that just loves to suck up on the info he can on Non-Sunyac teams! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
This just In....

                                                                                            Justin Mitchell is named SUNYAC POW

  "The senior forward became the 20th Bengal to score 1,000 career points during an incredible weekend where he averaged 31.0 points and 9.0 rebounds in a pair of SUNYAC wins. Mitchell had a double-double with 27 points and 12 boards in an 89-68 win over Oneonta on Friday, and then scored a career-best 35 points in a 109-99 win over New Paltz on Saturday. He shot an astounding 73-percent from the field and also had six blocks in the two games."

;D :D :) ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2013, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
This just In....

                                                                                            Justin Mitchell is named SUNYAC POW

  "The senior forward became the 20th Bengal to score 1,000 career points during an incredible weekend where he averaged 31.0 points and 9.0 rebounds in a pair of SUNYAC wins. Mitchell had a double-double with 27 points and 12 boards in an 89-68 win over Oneonta on Friday, and then scored a career-best 35 points in a 109-99 win over New Paltz on Saturday. He shot an astounding 73-percent from the field and also had six blocks in the two games."

;D :D :) ;)

Was there any other options? ??? Not this week.  When a guy scores his 1000th point he almost always is the Player of the Week. When you put up the numbers that Justin did for those 2 games along with scoring your 1000th point, then you should be Player of the Universe. I mean 73%, really... He made 27 of 37 shots.  I just hope he was nominated by your SID for the D3hooops Team of the Week. Can't be 5 guys in the country with better stats than Justin had in the past week. One or two maybe but not five. (And maybe not even 1 or 2) Happy for him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
Geneseo hosts Alfred State tonight.  Only game in town.

Alfred State is winless on the season with an 0-7 record. The Pioneers aren't just losing they're getting blown out by almost every one they play. Tonight won't be any different. This game will be over in about 10 minutes or less. Hard to put a number to this one as it will depend on the mercy of the Geneseo coaching staff. If they are reasonable it will be something like 85-50. If not it could be 105 to 55.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2013, 07:46:30 PM
Geneseo State leads Alfred State 62-25 at the half.

Matt Curry with 16 points. Gordon Lyons with 8.
Knights had 12 players see action in the half with 11 of them hitting the scoring column.

Jared Bard leads Alfred State with 9 points and Tavon Moore has 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2013, 11:59:27 PM
Apparently the Geneseo coaching staff did everything in their power to keep this game from reaching an outrageous conclusion but despite the fact that just about every non-starter had double digit minutes the final margin of victory was almost twice as much as Alfred State scored. The final was 117-43. The MOV was 74 points.  It counts as a win but won't help the SOS much.

Geneseo is now 5-1 and will be idle until they fly out to Washington State and take on the Puget Sound Loggers from the North West Conference on December 30th.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2013, 05:40:04 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 is out.  Here's the link:  http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/week3

No East Region team in the Top 25 as Hobart falls completely off the charts with their 2 losses over the weekend. I was surprised they even made it into the Top 25. A number of East Region teams were more worthy than the Statesmen.

One of them is Brockport and the Golden Eagles are getting some attention as they picked up 15 votes and come in at #36. The Wendy's Classic Champions will not be back on the court for over 3 weeks and may suffer in the polls because of that. They return to action when they travel to Hamilton on December 30th to take on the Continentals, a game I think they will win. 

NYU comes in at #37 with 5 votes. Every year the Violets get some early love due to the easy pickins they put together on their non-con schedule. As I mentioned in another post, earlier today, their opponents have a combined 14-25 record. Not the stuff that legends are made of. Massey has 3 SUNYAC teams all with losses on their record ranked ahead of unbeaten NYU.

No other East Region team received a mention this week.  SUNYAC hopes will have to ride the wings of the Golden Eagles for the time being. I don't see any of the other teams getting much support unless someone like Plattsburgh, Cortland, Geneseo, or Oswego can put together a substantial winning streak. The problem as usual is that we take turns beating up on each other (Oswego over Plattsburgh, Plattsburgh over Cortland in just the first weekend of action) and unless one of the aforementioned teams goes on a nice run we will remain on the outside of the Top 25.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2013, 06:00:04 AM
The SUNYAC has put together a rather middling 27-22 out of conference record through games of 12-09. Three of those wins have been recorded against out of region opponents so as far as the NCAA is concerned our official won-lost log is 24-22. The bottom 4 teams have combined for a paltry 5 wins since Potsdam's lone W came against SUNY-Canton and is one of those non-region games. Those same 4 teams have 15 of our 22 losses and unfortunately all of those count.

The Massey Ratings count all of our games and after last night's Geneseo win (which doesn't count in our official record) is added,  it will show us to have that 27-22 record. That will put us in 19th place out of his 47 placements. A long way from where we were a few short weeks ago (in the top 10). Thank goodness for the 5-1 record (actually a 4-1 record for NCAA purposes since the Port's win over Roberts Wesleyan is a non D3 win) that Brockport and Geneseo put up in the Wendy's tournament. 

There are 20 more non-conference games remaining to be played. I think we may go 11-9 in those 20 games. Plattsburgh, Buffalo State, and Cortland  all have 2 games each in holiday tournaments. The competition in those 3 tournaments will be pretty strong. Plattsburgh and Buffalo State could both go 0-2 but I'm projecting both to go 1-1.

I think Plattsburgh, who travels to Florida at the end of December, defeats Millikin, but will stumble against nationally ranked #19 UW-Stout. Buffalo State plays 2 CCIW teams, North Central and Carthage, also in Florida in 10 days. Neither one is currently ranked but North Central was as high as #4 earlier and is still receiving votes. I think they beat Carthage and drop a close one to North Central. I sure hope I'm wrong on those projected losses. That would be a big boost for the individual teams come tourney time as well as help our conference ranking if we both went 2-0 in the Florida tournaments.

Cortland still isn't listing their opposition in the Catholic University Tournament and neither is Catholic U. All websites say TBA on the games. Don't know what the big secret is. I would think you would know what the matchups are going to be for a tournament that is just 25 days away, at least for the 1st round games. 
WHERE IS FRAN ELIA WHEN I NEED HIM?  I'm guessing the Red Dragons will go 1-1 at worst. I think they can beat Catholic if they play them but don't know who the other 2 teams are. And Cortland may not face Catholic but get both of the unknown teams. Catholic has moved up into the ORV category of the rankings and sits in 30th place nationally.

Oneonta heads south to play 2 games against 2 USA South Athletic Conference teams. It's not a tournament so they will play the Averett Cougars on December 30th in Danville, Virginia on the Cougars home court and then take on the Greensboro Pride in Greensboro, North Carolina on New Year's Day. Neither one of these teams will be unbeatable for Oneonta but I'm not sure if the Red Dragons can win down there on the road. I anticipated a pair of losses in those 2 games.

I see Cortland winning 2 games against the Utica teams, SUNYIT and Utica College. Oswego has their 2 cupcakes left, Cazenovia and Cobleskill. Fredonia will win their remaining non-con against Alfred State which will do absolutely nothing for us since it won't count, (except for Massey) and Potsdam should win 1 of their remaining 2 games, since Merchant Marine is not a very good team. The Bears without Rob Duquette, aren't a very good team either, but they should still have enough to win that game. They play Manhattanville on January 7th in Potsdam and with Duquette in the lineup they could win that game but I didn't plan on it.

Brockport should beat Hamilton and if you're wondering why we only have 69 non-con games instead of 70 (10x7=70 remember) it's because the Golden Eagles are the 1 YAC team that only has 6 games out of conference. Someone probably saw some tape of Coach Dunne's "helter-skelter press you all over defense" and backed out of playing them. ???  Just a guess. So if any coaches that need to fill up their dance card are listening, give Coach Dunne a call he has an opening.

I think Oneonta drops their game against St. John Fisher, but an upset is certainly possible there. I hope Geneseo wins their last non-con game against Puget Sound, I put it in the win column. The only other OOC game left is New Paltz at Hamilton. I don't think the Hawks will win this game, especially at Hamilton, but they could surprise. I put it in the loss column. 

The final non conference game for the SUNYAC will take place on January 7th at 7:30 PM when Plattsburgh State travels to nationally ranked #18 Middlebury to face their interstate rival in Pepin Gym. The Panthers have owned the Cardinals for the past 5 years and although there have been some extremely close contests, the Panthers have emerged victorious. I don't think this year will be any different. If we had them at home this time around I'd pick the Cardinals but beating them on the road will be a tough row to hoe. The early line has the Panthers favored by a 4 point margin. If our big man Reggie Williams was back in action I'd feel a little better but without him, the size of the Panthers frontcourt and their replacements will be a major concern. Middlebury graduated 3 all conference performers from last years team but the Panthers, as they have done for the past 8 years or so, have simply reloaded. This game will be a barnburner and the chance for a Cardinal win is a definite possibility, I'm just not putting it in our column at this time.

So 27-22 at present with a projected 11-9 finish will leave us with a 38-31 record. For Massey's Ratings that will give us a win percentage of .551%. For the NCAA it will be a 34-31 log that will be a win percentage of .523%. I was hoping it would be higher than that this year. Maybe we can hit the jackpot over the holidays and bring home some bling. ;D                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 10, 2013, 12:00:50 PM
I'm here, Magicman, I'm here... :)

Sorry I haven't posted the Catholic matchup yet - just found out recently myself. I guess Catholic waits until the season starts to decide who they're going to play in the first round of their tournament. Cortland will face Catholic in the first round. Not sure of game time.

And a little late on this as well, but here our some highlights from Cortland's games last weekend vs. Potsdam and Plattsburgh (courtesy of Cortland sports info grad. asst. Brendan Hourihan):

Cortland-Plattsburgh highlights:
http://youtu.be/_PUv97Gp2v0

Cortland-Potsdam highlights:
http://youtu.be/dVVkRADxRBk

Keep up the good work - love the info and analysis. Would love to see more fans get involved on this board with insight from the games they're watching.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2013, 02:58:21 PM
I knew you wouldn't let me down Fran. Thanks for the info on Cortland's DC tournament. I think you might be right, sounds like Catholic wants to pick their opponent based on who they think might be the easier match up for the first round so they'll have a better chance to make their championship game. I hope you spoil their party. 8-) Make sure the guys on the team know that those Cardinals are belittling them. :o  If they think Cortland is an easier matchup for them I wonder who the other two teams are? Did you get that info at all? I'd be interested to know. FWIW, I think you can beat Catholic. I was impressed with how well Cortland has been playing despite all the players lost from last year's team. Coach Spanbauer always does a great job. I expect the Red Dragons will once again be in the hunt and will certainly make the playoffs.

Eastern Connecticut has already beaten Catholic 76-70 on a neutral court earlier in a tournament at Manhattanville. SUNY-Purchase beat Eastern Connecticut 68-62 in Eastern's gym. Purchase also handed visiting Brockport their only loss so far 98-90, in a double overtime thriller, that the Golden Eagles, twice had a shot at the buzzer to win (the end of regulation and the end of the 1st OT). So my logic says, if Brockport can play with Purchase and Purchase can beat Eastern Connecticut, who beat Catholic, then Cortland can beat Catholic, because all of us SUNYAC insiders know, that the top 6 teams in the YAC are pretty darn even. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;D

Also thanks for posting the highlights from the games this past weekend. There were a few times when I wanted to see an instant replay of some of the action in the Cortland-Plattsburgh game (We now have that in our webcasts ;)) and of course I couldn't, but now thanks to you I can replay those highlights all season long. ;D The way the Red Dragons have treated my Cardinals over the past few years I'm happy to have something I can look back on with a smile. :)

Good luck against the 2 Utica teams, we need those two wins. Don't forget to send me the names of the other two teams in the DC tournament if you have them. I knew it wasn't your fault that Cortland hadn't posted the opponent for the DC game. When I went to Catholic's website I was amazed that they had no info. (And still don't I might add.)

And was that Bobby Comstock doing the play by play of the webcasts? Sounded like him.

One last thing. I think Mike Mitchell  was channelling his inner Jeremy Smith from February 12th, 2011. That was the night when Smith came to Plattsburgh and set Memorial Hall on fire as he hit 7-9 from long distance, and Cortland beat us 83-69.
Mike was almost as good, going 6x8 from downtown, but stroking the game winning 3 with 45 seconds left made up for the slightly smaller number.  (Smith did have lots of help that night as the Red Dragons buried a total of 15 from behind the arc. :o) I'll never forget that display!! 8-)

Plus K         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2013, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 09, 2013, 06:55:37 PM
I just hope he was nominated by your SID for the D3hooops Team of the Week. Can't be 5 guys in the country with better stats than Justin had in the past week. One or two maybe but not five. (And maybe not even 1 or 2) Happy for him.

I have no doubt that our SID has nominated Justin for D3Hoops team of the week.  We have the best SID in SUNYAC and he stays on top of stuff like that!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 10, 2013, 03:52:50 PM
Magicman,

Thanks for the kind words, as always. It was an exciting game Saturday, and the Cardinals made the big plays late.

I don't mean to imply anything about Catholic's tournament scheduling. I have no idea why the tournament field was released when it was. Here's the schedule for the tournament:

Saturday, January 4th
2 p.m. - Misericordia vs. St. Joseph's (Maine)
4 p.m. - Catholic vs. Cortland

Saturday, January 5th
2 p.m. - Consolation game
4 p.m. - Championship game

Based on last year's results, and this year's start, I'm not sure Cortland is the team you choose as the easiest win in the field. Nothing against the other two teams, mind you, but I don't think Catholic chose Cortland for that reason. Just my opinion...

And Bengals Rule - you're right - your SID is one of the best I've worked with during my 23 years at Cortland. You're very lucky to have him.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
You're right Fran, they chose the wrong team for an easy first game. I'm pretty sure Cortland would win a matchup against those other 2 teams. Could be the championship game is played on the first day. Thanks for getting that info to me.

PS:  I just checked with Mr. Massey. Cortland would be favored by 10 over Misericordia, and Corts would be favored by 6 over St Joe's. Catholic is favored by 4 over Cortland, basically the home court edge. I'm fairly confident the Red Dragons will go at least 1-1 in DC and a decent chance  to come home with the hardware.

Catholic is favored by 10 over St Joe's and by 13 over Misericordia.

The Saturday Jan 4th game between Catholic and Cortland at 4 PM will have a webcast so I'll be tuned in.

Catholic now has the game with Cortland listed on their website. Still nothing about the other 2 teams. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2013, 04:39:06 PM
Go Red Dragons!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2013, 06:45:58 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 10, 2013, 05:40:04 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 is out.  Here's the link:  http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/week3

No East Region team in the Top 25 as Hobart falls completely off the charts with their 2 losses over the weekend. I was surprised they even made it into the Top 25. A number of East Region teams were more worthy than the Statesmen.

One of them is Brockport and the Golden Eagles are getting some attention as they picked up 15 votes and come in at #36. The Wendy's Classic Champions will not be back on the court for over 3 weeks and may suffer in the polls because of that. They return to action when they travel to Hamilton on December 30th to take on the Continentals, a game I think they will win. 

NYU comes in at #37 with 5 votes. Every year the Violets get some early love due to the easy pickins they put together on their non-con schedule. As I mentioned in another post, earlier today, their opponents have a combined 14-25 record. Not the stuff that legends are made of. Massey has 3 SUNYAC teams all with losses on their record ranked ahead of unbeaten NYU.

No other East Region team received a mention this week.  SUNYAC hopes will have to ride the wings of the Golden Eagles for the time being. I don't see any of the other teams getting much support unless someone like Plattsburgh, Cortland, Geneseo, or Oswego can put together a substantial winning streak. The problem as usual is that we take turns beating up on each other (Oswego over Plattsburgh, Plattsburgh over Cortland in just the first weekend of action) and unless one of the aforementioned teams goes on a nice run we will remain on the outside of the Top 25.     

This was my post yesterday about NYU receiving votes in the Top 25 poll. Right on cue, the minute the Violets play a team with a modicum of success, they can't get the job done.

In overtime...NYU (6-0) 65   Stevens Tech (3-3) 68 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2013, 07:04:34 AM
Brockport State's road warriors  featured on the front page today in an article from Around the Region. here's the link:

http://d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-region/east-northeast/index

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on December 11, 2013, 04:28:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 09, 2013, 04:57:30 PM


These are the Massey rankings for the top teams in the East Region as of today. SUNYAC teams occupy the top 3 spots and 5 of the top 6 positions.

#20  Brockport State.     
#49  Plattsburgh State   
#60  Cortland State     
#62  NYU                   
#78  Oswego State       
#101 Geneseo State   
#110 Skidmore               
#116 St. John Fisher       
#118 Hobart                   
#138 Buffalo State         
#147 Clarkson               
#149 Stevens Tech         
#170 Rochester               

Dropped out of Massey's Top 13 East Region teams: Nazareth and New Paltz replaced by Clarkson and Rochester.


                         


 
                                               
   
   

If I had to venture on what the East NCAA rankings would be like up to this point based on record and the eye test, it would look like this:

1- Brockport St
2-Plattsburgh St
3- Oswego St
4- Buffalo St
5- Oswego St
6- Stevens
7- NYU
8- Cortland
9-St John Fisher
10- Hobart
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on December 11, 2013, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on December 11, 2013, 04:28:19 PM



                         


 
                                               
   
   

If I had to venture on what the East NCAA rankings would be like up to this point based on record and the eye test, it would look like this:

1- Brockport St
2-Plattsburgh St
3- Oswego St
4- Buffalo St
5- Oswego St
6- Stevens
7- NYU
8- Cortland
9-St John Fisher
10- Hobart
[/quote]

Did not mean to put Oswego at 5. Bump everyone up one and put Skidmore at 9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2013, 01:31:37 AM
Just in........

Justin Mitchell is named to the D3Hoops team of the week. Guess there is not muchelse to say! Guess i can go to sleep now. Been waiting allweek for this to happen!

Congrats Justin!  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2013, 03:55:58 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2013, 01:31:37 AM
Just in........

Justin Mitchell is named to the D3Hoops team of the week. Guess there is not  much else to say! Guess i can go to sleep now. Been waiting all week for this to happen!

Congrats Justin!  :D

You're supposed to do this:

Justin Mitchell is named to the D3Hoops team of the week. Here is the write up:

Justin Mitchell
Mitchell averaged 31.0 points and 9.0 rebounds in a pair of SUNYAC wins. The senior had a double-double with 27 points and 12 boards in an 89-68 win over Oneonta on Friday, and then scored a career-best 35 points in a 109-99 win over New Paltz on Saturday. He shot 73 percent from the field and also had six blocks in the two games.

Here's the link for the Team of the Week: http://d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2013-14/week3


There wasn't even a question of...would Justin would make the Team of the Week? It was just a matter of when it would be announced! Good job Justin. Get all of those 35 point games out of your system before you take on Plattsburgh State. ;D

Justin is the first SUNYAC player to make the Team of the Week this year. Hopefully not the last.

Here are some other noteworthy stats involving conference players:

NCAA Statistics National Rankings:

Rebounds Per Game 
#16 Gordon Lyons                 Geneseo State  11.8 rpg
#21 Kevin McMahon               Cortland State  11.4 rpg
#31 John Perez                      Plattsburgh State 10.5 rpg

Blocked Shots Per Game
#9 Pat Coyle                          Brockport State  3.2 bpg

Double Doubles
#18 John Perez                     Plattsburgh State 4 in 6 games
#18 Justin Mitchell                Buffalo State  4 in 7 games 

Assists Per Game
#37 Chris Manning                Plattsburgh State 5.5 apg

Field Goal Percentage
#9 Gordon Lyons                  Geneseo State  70.2%  40x57
#18 Justin Mitchell                Buffalo State 67.3%  66x98

Free Throw Percentage
#17 James McKenna              Geneseo State  94.1%  16x17

Points per Game
#17 Zach Mager                   Oneonta State 23.8 ppg
#21 Justin Mitchell                Buffalo State  23.3 ppg
#36 Lamard Herron               Cortland State 21.8 ppg

Steals Per Game
#4 Chris Manning                Plattsburgh State 3.83 spg
#38 Daniel Ross                  Oswego State   2,71 spg
#47 Lamard Herron             Cortland State  2.60 spg
#47 John Ivy                      Brockport State  2.60 spg
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2013, 11:46:03 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2013, 03:55:58 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2013, 01:31:37 AM
Just in........

Justin Mitchell is named to the D3Hoops team of the week. Guess there is not  much else to say! Guess i can go to sleep now. Been waiting all week for this to happen!

Congrats Justin!  :D

You're supposed to do this:

Dude..give me a break. Ive been checking d3 hoops every 3 hours for 3 days. Nothing up as of 9 p.m. last night. Started watching a re-run of Antwone Fisher  (always makes me cry  :'( ) around 11  and then just as I was about to crash, I tried to tackle Candy crush 1 more time :-[. As I went to place my phone on the charger I thought "Hmmm lets see if D3hoops has announced the week 2 team yet" (Dec 2nd-9th) ??? . Low and behold at 1:30 am there it was. Posted asap on my phone (after In texted a couple of coaches I know..hope I didnt wake them up) and then crashed. Had planned on doing a much more detailed display today but something told me that someone would be cruising this site long after I'm asleep and do justice to Justin (thats ryhmes?!)

And of course...the Magic 1 didn't let me, or Justin, down. ;). You are alright in my book...I don't care what dcahill OR Hawkbill say about you! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2013, 12:15:41 PM
Sometimes it pays to check out the other regions boards. I never do...until today. Thought I'd take a peek at what is being said about/by fans of our next 2 opponents, Carthage and North Central. Thier boards appear to have been around years before the SUNYAC boards started. Coupled with the fact that many of thier regular posters are listed as "All-American" ( i.e. 3 on the last page of their most recent post) as opposed to our boards where the only regular poster who has that rank is Magicman. The bear is listed as "all-Conference" and he too is usually a regular as is JDEX who is listed as "All-region".. I expect to hear from both of them often as the season progresses! Those posters over there also seem to be alot more knowledgeable about whats going on within their conference as to who didnt play and who did and records broken and etc etc. Smart crew over there.

What caught my eye today was the following post by someone over there when assesing the next few games of Carthage (BENGALS next opponent).

"Carthage isn't very deep in the bigs (PF and C).  Marlon Senior has played great so far and Mike Kastel likes to rebound and fight in the paint, but there's a pretty big dropoff from those two to the backups and I don't think any of Van Wyk, McNellis or Valentine could be very successful with starter minutes. 

They have more depth at guard/small forward and will have even more when Malcom Kelly returns, but even then, this team is not going more than eight deep.

With regards to scheduling, Carthage has played 4 Top 100 D3 teams (according to Massey), 2 weaker D3 teams, a very good NAIA team and a not so good USCAA team.   They have two other Top 100 D3 (Platteville and Eastern Conn) teams left in the nonconference schedule along with an ok Buffalo St, so I think it's been a good schedule to prep them for CCIW play."

Good stuff!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 03:31:33 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2013, 11:46:03 AM
And of course...the Magic 1 didn't let me, or Justin, down. ;). You are alright in my book...I don't care what dcahill OR Hawkbill say about you! :)

Hawkball told me that the next time you call him Hawkbill, he's gonna start calling you Bunglesrule. ;D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 03:59:49 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2013, 12:15:41 PM
Sometimes it pays to check out the other regions boards. I never do...until today. Thought I'd take a peek at what is being said about/by fans of our next 2 opponents, Carthage and North Central. Thier boards appear to have been around years before the SUNYAC boards started. Coupled with the fact that many of thier regular posters are listed as "All-American" ( i.e. 3 on the last page of their most recent post) as opposed to our boards where the only regular poster who has that rank is Magicman. The bear is listed as "all-Conference" and he too is usually a regular as is JDEX who is listed as "All-region".. I expect to hear from both of them often as the season progresses! Those posters over there also seem to be alot more knowledgeable about whats going on within their conference as to who didnt play and who did and records broken and etc etc. Smart crew over there.

What caught my eye today was the following post by someone over there when assesing the next few games of Carthage (BENGALS next opponent).

"Carthage isn't very deep in the bigs (PF and C).  Marlon Senior has played great so far and Mike Kastel likes to rebound and fight in the paint, but there's a pretty big dropoff from those two to the backups and I don't think any of Van Wyk, McNellis or Valentine could be very successful with starter minutes. 

They have more depth at guard/small forward and will have even more when Malcom Kelly returns, but even then, this team is not going more than eight deep.

With regards to scheduling, Carthage has played 4 Top 100 D3 teams (according to Massey), 2 weaker D3 teams, a very good NAIA team and a not so good USCAA team.   They have two other Top 100 D3 (Platteville and Eastern Conn) teams left in the nonconference schedule along with an ok Buffalo St, so I think it's been a good schedule to prep them for CCIW play."

Good stuff!  ;)

As soon as I read your post I knew you were talking about, "bopol", as he is the main poster for Carthage College on the CCIW board. "AndOne" is the main poster for North Central College. I read the CCIW board daily and have for years.  I occasionally comment there but mostly lurk, and have spoken with many of the posters on that board. However there is also a CCIW Pick Em League board on that same Midwest Region page. Just who do you think runs that CCIW Pick EM League? And would have some knowledge about those CCIW teams you are about to play? Your friendly, neighborhood, magicman, that's who. That's right, some guy over here in Plattsburgh N.Y. runs the Pick Em League of 8 teams located in Illinois and Wisconsin. Betcha didn't see that one coming my friend. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2013, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 13, 2013, 03:59:49 AM
However there is also a CCIW Pick Em League board on that same Midwest Region page. Just who do you think runs that CCIW Pick EM League? And would have some knowledge about those CCIW teams you are about to play? Your friendly, neighborhood, magicman, that's who. That's right, some guy over here in Plattsburgh N.Y. runs the Pick Em League of 8 teams located in Illinois and Wisconsin. Betcha didn't see that one coming my friend. ;D   

You are right! Didnt see that 1 coming. I knew that you would know some of those guys over there. Just didnt know how involved you were with "pick em"!

Apologies to HAWKBALL :-[. I was typing fast. Hopefully by the time he comes back to visit these boards, he will miss this! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 13, 2013, 12:16:57 PM
SCHEDULE CHANGE:

Cortland vs. SUNYIT has been moved to Friday (tonight) at 6 p.m. at Cortland. Game was originally scheduled for Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 05:56:10 PM
Thanks to Fran's post we now have 2 games to look forward to tonight:


SUNYIT at  Cortland State   6:00 PM     Game moved from Dec. 14

The Red Dragons look to get back on the winning track after dropping a nailbiter to Plattsburgh. The Wildcats come into the game with a 3-2 record and fresh off their own nailbiting 60-58 win over Keuka in which the Storm had 3 chances to tie or win the games in the last 35 seconds. The Wildcats escaped and are now looking to start a streak. They are also looking to break a streak of losses to Cortland, as the Red Dragons have won the last 2 in this series and 5 of the last 8 over the past 7 years. Oddsmakers have made Cortland a heavy 22 point favorite in this one though and I don't think the Wildcats will be able to keep up. I think the final will be something like 78-60 for the Red Dragons.




Cazenovia at  Oswego State 8:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 06:35:46 PM

Cazenovia at  Oswego State 8:00 PM

Both SUNYAC teams playing Wildcats tonight. The Lakers have owned this variety of Wildcats winning 6 straight over the past seven years and the smallest margin of victory was last year's 16 point, 73-57 Oswego win. The others were 25 to 54 point margins. The Lakers opened the season with a 62-50 win over Lancaster Bible. One week ago Lancaster Bible crushed Cazenovia 102-54. That doesn't bode well for these Wildcats. However Cazenovia did defeat a decent Medaille team (that has lost to Cortland State by 2, Buffalo State by 5, St. John Fisher by 3, and Geneseo State by 2) 88-80 back on November 30th. The oddsmakers weren't swayed by that result though and have made Oswego a 26 point favorite. I have to go along with that. I was impressed with Oswego last week when I got to see then play. I figured Daniel Ross and Kyle Covley would be the main offensive weapons, but their freshman guard, Brian Sortino, gives the Lakers another scoring option that helps offset the loss of so much firepower from last year's team. Sortino is making an early case for SUNYAC Rookie of the Year.  If the Lakers can put up 99 on Ithaca and 90 on St.Lawrence (OT) they should be able to score that much tonight. Lakers win 95-68.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 07:27:27 PM
And this is why you play the game.....Cortland 68  SUNYIT 68    at the end of regulation.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 07:36:26 PM
SUNYIT grabbed the lead in OT against Cortland and has held it all the way. Now with 1:21 to go, the Wildcats lead 77-75 and have the ball coming out of a timeout. Cortland with great defense gets the ball off a Wildcat miss and comes down and looks to tie the game up. Work it inside to Kevin McMahon who misses a layup, gets his own rebound and puts it back for the tie with 57 seconds to go.

SUNYIT comes down and with 32 seconds left Wildcats' Maverick Hodge is fouled by Lamard Herron. He makes them both to give the Wildcats a 2 point lead. Red Dragons come down and once again look to tie it up but turn the ball over with 18 seconds left as Hodge steals it. Time out Wildcats.

Red Dragons foul on the inbounds pass and Wildcats' Drake Alexander misses the first one. Cortland calls a time out with 16 seconds left.
Drake misses the 2nd free throw, but SUNYIT's Kaleel Johnson gets his 19th rebound off the miss and is fouled. He makes the 1st to give the Wildcats a 3 point lead and Cortland calls another time out. If Johnson makes his 2nd free throw this game is all but over.
Johnson makes the 2nd one.

Cortland races the length of the court and TJ Hefele is fouled with 9 seconds to play.Hefele makes both free throws to make it 81-79. Cortland calls another time out.

SUNYIT's Drake is fouled on the inbounds pass, goes to the line and calmly makes them both to once again make it a 2 possession game.  Cortlands McMahon throws the ball to halfcourt and zebras end up calling a flagrant foul on Cortland's Lamard Herron as there is a steal by the Wildcats after the long pass. Wildcats' Hodge is awarded 4 free throws and makes them all to extend the lead to 87-79. And that's the final. WOW!!

Not a good game by the Red Dragons as they gave this one away in the last few minutes of regulation. The rebound that the Wildcats got off their missed foul shot was huge (Johnson 19th rebound) If Cortland gets that rebound they could come down and tie it up. Instead they have to foul and the Wildcats extend the lead to 4 points and basically put them in the driver's seat for good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
Oswego leads Cazenovia 38-21 at the half. Daniel Ross and Brian Sortino both with 11 points to lead the Lakers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2013, 09:45:14 PM
Oswego defeats Cazenovia 79-49

Brian Sortino leads the Lakers with 19 points. Daniel Ross had 18 and Rashawn Powell added 10. Everyone on the Laker team saw plenty of action as it looks like Coach Leone did his best to keep the margin of victory within reason.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2013, 02:02:14 PM
Two games today in the YAC:

St. John Fisher at Oneonta State  2:00 PM

St. John Fisher looks to get back to .500 in conference play. Whoops, wrong conference. Seriously though this will be the Cardinals 6th game of the season and is their 4th contest against a SUNYAC team. They are 1-2 against teams that should finish in the top half of the league. Today they take on a team that will struggle to make the SUNYAC playoffs. Both teams are coming off a win and hoping to start a streak. First time these schools have met in recent memory. Point spread has the Cardinals on top by 4. Oneonta defeated Rochester in Rochester by 15 points. Fisher beat Rochester last week in the Wendy's Classic, on a neutral court, by a 60-58 score. Both teams have lost to Buffalo State. Fisher is probably the stronger team here but I'm taking Oneonta in a mild upset, 76-73.

Alfred State at Fredonia  4:00 PM

Fredonia trying to beat a team from Happy Valley. Lost on their first go around against Alfred U. by a 100-90 score. Today I think they notch their 3rd and possibly final win of the 2013-14 season. Everybody is beating up on poor Alfred State as the Pioneers transition over to Division III. Oddsmakers have made the Blue Devils a 15 point favorite but that may not be enough. Blue Devils win this one 87-60.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2013, 03:02:33 PM
St. John Fisher leads Oneonta 34-32 at the half.

Tyler Hart leads Fisher with 9 points. Keegan Ryan and Stefan Bock both have 8.

Jack Dignan tops Oneonta with 8, Zach Mager has 6 and Jackson Zuvic has 5.

Back and forth first period with Fisher claiming an early lead and maintaining it until the Red Dragons forged in front 12-11 on a bucket by Zuvic with 10:53 to go. Cardinals would regain the lead but then Oneonta moved out to a 5 point lead at 19-14 with 6:49 left. Fisher would tie it up again at 19 each with 5:13 remaining. A 10-3 burst by the Red Dragons gave them the biggest lead of the period at 29-22 with 3 minutes to play, but once again the Cardinals would catch up with a 10-3 run of their own. Two triples by Bock and two layups by Ryan accounted for the Cardinals' points and then Bock got another basket just before the half to give Fisher the edge at the break. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2013, 04:30:02 PM
Oneonta defeats St John Fisher 67-65.

Red Dragons come through for me and post the mild upset. Zac Mager was the leading scorer in the game with 22 points. Jackson Zuvic had 12 points and led Oneonta with 7 rebounds. Mikey McElroy had 9 points and a huge 3 pointer with 1:55 left that gave the Red Dragons a 5 point lead that put them in control. Fisher did have a chance to tie or win the game as they rebounded a Red Dragon miss with 18 seconds left. After a Fisher timeout, they worked the ball for a three point attempt to win the game. Looks like it was partially blocked and Oneonta came away with the ball to end the game.

Fisher was led by freshman Keegan Ryan with a double double of 15 points and 10 rebounds. Stefan Bock had 14 points and Tyler Hart had 11.

Oneonta improves to 3-4 and will be off for 2 weeks until they travel south for a 2 game road trip. They take on the Averett Cougars on December 30th at 7 PM.They will face off against the Greensboro Pride on January 1st at 2 PM and hopefully get the New Year off to a good start.

St. John Fisher falls to 3-3 and is back in action on Wednesday December 18th when they host the Bethany Bison from the Presidents Athletic Conference. The Cardinals will have their hands full with that matchup as the Bison are currently undefeated at 6-0 heading into a game tonight. Bethany owns a win over Ohio Northern who beat Buffalo State in Buffalo several weeks ago. They have also defeated Mount Union by a 79-61 score. Mount Union handled Hartwick  rather easily back on Nov. 30th by a 95-81 score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2013, 09:15:17 PM
Fredonia defeats Alfred State 79-65.

After an early Alfred lead the Blue Devils forged ahead at the 13:38 mark on a triple by Tyrone Clark to make it 13-10. They would extend that margin until it reached the largest lead of the period at 29-16 with 3:33 left to play. Alfred State wouldn't go away though, and came back with a little spurt of their own to close the lead down to a 7 point margin at the break 32-25.

The Pioneers got it down to a 2 point deficit on several occasions early in the 2nd half but couldn't quite come all the way back. Up by 2 at 37-35 the Blue Devils finally began to roll and steadily increased their advantage. A 14-2 run put them up 51-37 and they never looked back. The lead was never less than 10 and grew to a maximum of 17 before a 3 pointer by Alfred cut it to the final 14 point margin.

Tyrone Clark was the high scorer for Fredonia as he scored 26 points. Clark had a solid all around game as he grabbed 7 rebounds and had 5 assists, 5 steals and 4 blocks.Robert Lyles had 18 points and 5 assists, John Kovac had 13 points and Alexander Grace added 10.

Alfred State had the game's high scorer as Tommy Hutson had 30 points. Adam Fezza had 14 and Tavon Moore finished with 11.

Fredonia improves to 3-6 and won't be in action again for nearly a month. Their next game isn't until January 10th when they travel  east to Oswego State and then Cortland on the 11th. Whoever made out the SUNYAC schedule didn't do the Blue Devils any favors. Those 2 games are the start of 5 straight conference road games and they all come against, what I think will be, 5 of the 6 teams that will make the conference tournament. I expect the Blue Devils will go from 3-6 to 3-11 by January 21st. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2013, 05:06:02 AM
Buffalo State's Justin Mitchell completed the weekly triple crown by grabbing ECAC Player of the Week honors in the upstate region for the week ending December 8th. This award completed the trifecta to go with his SUNYAC Player of the Week honors and D3hoops Team of the Week honors. Justin was the 2nd straight SUNYAC player to win the ECAC weekly award as  Geneseo's Gordon Lyons was the winner of the initial ECAC Player of the Week award for the week ending December 1st.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 15, 2013, 12:35:52 PM
  Damn. Magicman, you beat me to that 1! >:( Hoops trifecta indeed.  I happened to see Justin yeaterday and extended your congrats to him. ;)

  Mark my words. Rod Epps may soon join Justin in weekly honors. He as improved his defense(3 blocks last game) and is going to the basket the way Jake used to. The upcoming trip to Florida should give Buffalo State thier first look at a complete squad. I can't remember a BENGALS team that has had this many interchangeable parts.

   Glad to see Oneonta defeat St John Fisher. Many posters in the E8 boards still predict them to win the conference.  I'm hoping that they run the table in E8. That has got to bode well for the Yac! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2013, 11:03:43 PM
Massey's updated rankings show the SUNYAC conference has moved up a few spots from 19th place to 14th place with a record of 28-22. Actually our record as of 12-15, is 30-23, but Massey doesn't have the results of 3 games yet. 4 of those wins will not count in our NCAA conference won-lost record as they were considered to be non-regional games. For NCAA purposes out record is 26-23.


Here are the top 15 East Region teams in Massey's Ratings as of today. The first number is the current Massey ranking out of 413 teams. The 2nd number is + or - the movement since I last posted these.  SUNYAC now holding down the 1st 4 places and 6 of the top 9 spots of teams from the East Region. 

16  Brockport State       +4

43  Plattsburgh State     +6

50  Cortland State         +10  The Red Dragons will drop some as they have a loss that Massey doesn't show yet.

65  Oswego State          +18

76  NYU                        -14

82  Geneseo                 +19   Has a win not yet showing but it's Alfred State so it won't help much and could hurt since it will lower
                                            Geneseo's strength of schedule.

102 Hobart                    +16

103 Skidmore                 +7     Not sure why Hobart leaped over Skidmore since the last posting. Skidmore had a win over Ithaca and
                                              Hobart was idle. Must be the SOS on past opponents got better for Hobart and worse for Skidmore.

114 Buffalo State            +24

122 Stevens Tech            +27

125 St. John Fisher          -9

139 Clarkson                   +8

144 Rochester                 +26    Yellowjackets finally get to .500 after their win over Hamilton the other night

148 Vassar                      +27

163 Nazareth
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on December 16, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
Why is Plattsburgh rated so low when we Middlebury fans absolutely know they'll come into our gym and burn the place down in a game that inevitably has dramatic runs by both teams and is decided in the last minute?
We would  prefer to play WPI, Wooster, Wash U., Augustana or maybe IWU than the Cardinals.
For some reason, Coach Curle brings his team to Vermont ready to knock the NESCAC school down a few notches.  The gym will be full, which only happens for Amherst, Williams and NCAA tourney games.
Fellow blogger Vandy74 and I are looking forward to a pregame chat with Magicman and his entourage.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 16, 2013, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: middhoops on December 16, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
Why is Plattsburgh rated so low when we Middlebury fans absolutely know they'll come into our gym and burn the place down in a game that inevitably has dramatic runs by both teams and is decided in the last minute?
We would  prefer to play WPI, Wooster, Wash U., Augustana or maybe IWU than the Cardinals.
For some reason, Coach Curle brings his team to Vermont ready to knock the NESCAC school down a few notches.  The gym will be full, which only happens for Amherst, Williams and NCAA tourney games.
Fellow blogger Vandy74 and I are looking forward to a pregame chat with Magicman and his entourage.

"pregame chat with Magicman" ???  I hope you don't think that it ends when the game begins!!!!! ;D

I had a pregame chat with the Magic 1 either 3 or 4 years ago. :-\   We are still "Chatting"! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2013, 02:31:06 AM
Quote from: middhoops on December 16, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
Why is Plattsburgh rated so low when we Middlebury fans absolutely know they'll come into our gym and burn the place down in a game that inevitably has dramatic runs by both teams and is decided in the last minute?
We would  prefer to play WPI, Wooster, Wash U., Augustana or maybe IWU than the Cardinals.
For some reason, Coach Curle brings his team to Vermont ready to knock the NESCAC school down a few notches.  The gym will be full, which only happens for Amherst, Williams and NCAA tourney games.
Fellow blogger Vandy74 and I are looking forward to a pregame chat with Magicman and his entourage.

middhoops,

I could say the same thing about Middlebury...Massey as of today has the Panthers ranked #41. I believe the #19 ranking that Middlebury currently occupies on the D3hoops Top 25 poll is more in tune with where they belong. But then I've seen Middlebury play several times this season and I doubt Mr. Massey or his computers have seen 5 minutes of the Panthers in action. There is at least 25 teams ranked ahead of Middlebury that would probably lose to them at home or on the road.

Plattsburgh State, who has been idle since December 7th, tumbled from the 44th spot down to the 55th position in the past 24 hours. Hard to fathom, you fall 11 places  without even taking the court, but that's the way Massey's system works. Cortland State, one of Plattsburgh's 4 wins, suffered a rather upsetting loss several days ago to a team that was ranked 347th. That loss affected all the teams in the SUNYAC conference, as they all slipped in the rankings.

It's nice to know that Plattsburgh State and Coach Curle are so well thought of by the Middlebury faithful that they pack the house for our visit. The feeling is certainly mutual on our side of the lake regarding Coach Brown and his Panthers. It's always a game we circle on the calendar the minute that the schedule comes out.

This year our visit to Middlebury will be even more enjoyable as we get to meet two of our fellow posters, Vandy74 and yourself. I tried to meet old guy 2 years ago but didn't make the connection. I may even try to meet Bucket between games rather than just hear him do his announcing chores.

And that Bengalsrule guy that commented right after your post. We did meet 4 years ago and we are in fact still chatting. That's because he always tries to get the last word in but I won't let him. ;D So it's been back and forth ever since. 8-)       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2013, 03:51:28 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 poll is out and Brockport State is the only East Region team getting a mention. The Golden Eagles moved up slightly from 36th place to the 32nd spot as their point total increased from 15 to 21. The bad news is they don't play again for almost 2 weeks when they travel to Hamilton on Dec. 30th, so there is not much chance of moving up in the polls. The good news is they can't lose any games and won't move out of, the "others receiving votes" category. If they can string together a few wins (however road games in early January against Geneseo and Plattsburgh could prevent any lengthy winning streak) they could move into the Top 25 as teams above them falter.

Of note is that Southern Vermont, who was still getting some love from their opening day win over Williams, lost to a 2-5 Union team and dropped out of the polls completely. I didn't think they belonged in the polls to begin with.

Richard Stockton who defeated visiting Plattsburgh State 78-74 the first weekend of the season has reappeared in the polls after a one  week absence. They are in 36th place with a total of 17 points. The Ospreys are currently 7-1 with their only blemish being a 2 point setback on the road to Willie Paterson. If they were undefeated they would be around #15 to #20 in the Top 25. Mr. Massey has them ranked as the 9th best team in the country.

One of the 4 teams in the tournament that Buffalo State is hosting in Orlando Florida this weekend is Eastern Connecticut. They finally  cracked the Top 25 after sitting in the ORV category for the past 3 weeks. The Warriors check in at #22 with 90 points, moving up from #26. The Bengals won't meet Eastern in the tourney as both schools will play North Central and Carthage on alternate days. North Central, ranked as high as #5 earlier this year, is still receiving votes, but the Cardinals opened with 2 losses in their first 3 games and that had them tumbling out of the Top 25 and into the ORV category. They are coming off a weekend sweep of 2 decent teams, in the always strong, Old Dominion Athletic Conference. Carthage is coming off a double OT win against UW-Plattville and the Redmen just got back, after a year and a half absence, probably their best player. Malcom Kelly, who led the CCIW conference in scoring in 2011-12 with a 19.1 ppg average just returned to the team and scored 11 points in 12 minutes of action in his first game back. The Redmen could be the best team in this tournament... but I hope it's Buffalo State.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on December 17, 2013, 11:31:42 AM
SUNYAC is just loaded this year... Oneonta taking down maybe the Best team in the E8. heres what im thinking for the conference after 7-8 games.
Brockport
Buffalo State
Plattsburgh
Oswego
Geneseo
Oneonta
Cortland
New Paltz
Potsdam
Fredonia
What does everyone think?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on December 17, 2013, 12:37:04 PM
I predict the conference tournament will look like this:
1-Buffalo St
2-Oswego
3-Brockport
4-Plattsburgh
5-Geneseo
6-Oneonta
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2013, 03:06:52 PM
I think both of you guys are wrong and any list that doesn't have Plattsburgh State on top must be a misprint. ;D  In addition to the Cardinals, the other playoff teams in no particular order will be Brockport, Buffalo State, Oswego, Cortland and Geneseo. Six solid teams all capable of beating each other. Road wins will be hard to come by against these teams so it's important that you win the ones you're supposed to against the bottom four clubs. Protecting your home court is a must as well. It won't surprise me to see the regular season champion and top seed end up with a 14-4 record. The race might even resemble the 2009-10 season when 2 teams were tied at the top with a 13-5 record. The Cardinals ended up the #1 seed that year, winning a tiebreaker over Oneonta and hosting the conference tournament. They beat those Red Dragons for the third time to claim the SUNYAC Championship. I'd be happy to see some kind of similar scenario. 8-)     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2013, 12:49:41 PM
dcahill and NYSHOOPs...you 2 are alright in my book! I don't care what Magicman says about you 2! I knew when I was reading the your 2 posts that when the Magic 1 saw these he was gonna blow up! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2013, 04:24:19 PM
One game scheduled for today.

Potsdam State at Merchant Marine  7:00 PM

The Bears haven't tasted victory since opening day and almost went hungry on that occasion as they barely beat an 0-7 SUNY-Canton 71-69. And they had to come from behind to do so. The Bears have to come out of hibernation and fatten up a bit if they hope to survive this season. Not sure tonight will give them that opportunity. Merchant Marine 4-4, has been fairly inconsistent this year as they lost to a weak RIT team by 21 points, yet own a  road victory over a decent 7-2 Scranton team. The point spread has the Mariners favored by 7 points and I'm afraid the Bears without their big man will be easy sailing for Merchant Marine.  I think the final will be 71-65 Merchant Marine. Sure hope I'm wrong. Go Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Merchant Marine 98 Potsdam State 91

The Bears did a reversal of their usual modus operandi in this game. They normally hang with the opponents through the first half and fade in the 2nd period to come out on the short end. Tonight they fell behind by 20 points in the first period and went into the break down 53-35. They were still down by 18 points at 90-72, with 3:35 left in the game, when they went on a 19-5 run and got it down to a 4 point deficit at 95-91 with 19 seconds left, on a 3 pointer by Darien Croft. They had to foul and the Mariners hit 3 of 4 to close out the scoring. Another tough loss for a team that is in for another tough year.

The Bears did have 5 players in double figures led by Rishawd Hendricks with 18 points 6 assists and 5 rebounds. Joe Estramonte had 16 points, and Tom Graf added 14. Zac Adams had 13 points and led the team with 7 rebounds. Darien Croft came off the bench and scored 10 points in 9 minutes. Conor Engle tied Adams with 7 rebounds and scored 7 points.

Bears fall to 1-7 and are off until they host Manhattanville on January 7th.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2013, 03:21:49 AM
One game today:

Carthage vs Buffalo State  at Orlando Florida  6:00 PM

Tough matchup tonight for the Bengals as they face the Redmen of Carthage College. A member of the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin, Carthage comes into the game with a 6-3 record. The Redmen were picked to finish in the 2nd division of the CCIW this year because the 4 teams ranked above them were all nationally ranked by D3hoops in their preseason poll. Carthage has proven to be a bit of a surprise however as they already own a pair of wins over nationally ranked opponents. On Nov.27th they defeated then #4 Washington University 82-80. (Wash U is currently ranked #9) and on Dec. 8th they knocked off then #9 Calvin 74-68 (currently #16).
They did this without their best player on the team who wasn't eligible to play until December 14th. That player, Malcom Kelly, is a 6'0" guard who was the leading scorer in the conference (19.1 ppg) when he last suited up in the 2011-12 season. He played his first game this past weekend and scored 11 points in 12 minutes of action. That game was a double overtime win against UW-Plattville  The Massey ratings currently rank the CCIW conference as the 4th toughest conference in the country. The CCIW possesses the nation's 2nd best out of conference winning percentage of 46-21 (.687)

The Bengals enter this game on a 2 game winning streak but haven't played in nearly 2 weeks. The oddsmakers have made Carthage a 3 point favorite. I'd love to pick the Bengals in this contest but that would be my heart overruling my head. I've seen Carthage play and I think they might have too much firepower for Buffalo State to contain. And that was without Malcom Kelly in the lineup. And lets face facts....any team that can win against 2 of the top teams in the country will probably prevail against an unranked Bengals team. I think the Redmen will take this one 89-82. But I'm going to root, root, root, for the home team and pray that the Bengals pull off the upset here.

This game will not have a video link but Carthage College Radio will feature an audio broadcast. Here's the link for anyone wishing to catch the action:     http://player.streamtheworld.com/_players/nextmedia/?callsign=WLIPAM         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2013, 12:33:56 PM
Lucked up and got a cheap flight to Orlando.  :)  Staying with "friends".  82 degrees today and the BENGALS playing Carthage in the gym where Shaq and the Magic used to practice in!.  My head ...and heart say BENGALS by 7!

Hope I right. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2013, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2013, 12:33:56 PM
Lucked up and got a cheap flight to Orlando.  :)  Staying with "friends".  82 degrees today and the BENGALS playing Carthage in the gym where Shaq and the Magic used to practice in!.  My head ...and heart say BENGALS by 7!

Hope I right. ;)

You are one lucky CAT!!   It's snowing here...5 inches expected and I can't get my plow truck to start.

It sounds to me like your heart is working overtime and your head isn't into the game with that prediction though. ;D  But I sure hope you're right. I'd love nothing better than to have you come back on the boards and say I told you so. 8-)  Good Luck.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2013, 07:20:08 PM
Buffalo State leads Carthage 31-28 at the break.

The Redmen are struggling against the Bengals' press as they already have 15 turnovers. Bengals have 10 steals led by 3 from Chris Thompson.

Reese Herth comes off the bench and leads the Redmen with 7 points. Malcom Kelly starting in place of Herth has 6 points.

Bengals are led by Chris Thompson with 10 points and 7 rebounds. Justin Mitchell and Rod Epps with 8 each. Bengals only have 6 turnovers.

Need the Bengals to continue to bring the heat. Hopefully they don't run out of energy. Go Bengals!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2013, 08:19:37 PM
Bengals playing poorly in the 2nd half, have let a 7 point lead turn into a 9 point deficit as the Redmen go on a 16-0 run and lead 47-38 with 12:58 left in the game.

Carthage extends their lead to a game high of 11 points at 56-45. Still down by 10 at 61-51 with 5 minutes to go, the Bengals close to within a single possession at 63-60 on a jumper by Brad Doyley with 1:54 to go.

Carthage time out with 1:34 left and the Bengals with the ball but the Bengals turn it over on the inbounds with a 5 second count. That could be the costliest play of the game.

Bengals foul on the Carthage possession and the Redmen player misses both free throws. Buffalo State misses a layup and Carthage gets the rebound but a travel call results in another turnover and the Bengals Jordan Glover buries a 3 pointer to tie it up at 63 with 1:11 to play.

After a Carthage turnover, a Bengal miss, a Carthage rebound and miss, the Bengals get a layup by Rod Epps to take the lead with 37 seconds to play, 65-63

Redmen's Kevin Sykes is fouled with 22 seconds left and makes both free throws to tie the game once again.

Bengals take their last time out with 13 seconds to go and they get a tip in by Chris Thompson to go down, with 4 seconds left. Carthage heaves one from half court with 2 seconds to go that goes out of bounds with 1 second on the clock. The Bengals in bound the ball to end the game.


The Wrap Up     Final Score Buffallo State 67 Carthage 65    This wasn't close to my prediction of an 89-82 Redman victory but when two teams combine for 47 turnovers low scores result. Just glad the right team was on top. 

The Bengals got a pair of double doubles tonight from Justin Mitchell and Chris Thompson.

Mitchell coming off a D3hoops Team of the Week award, SUNYAC POW, and ECAC POW, might be looking at a chance for another threepeat as he captured scoring and rebounding honors in tonights game. He had 24 points (11x19 fg, 0x1 3's, 2x2 ft) and grabbed 12 rebounds 5 of them on the offensive end. He also added 4 steals.

Thompson scored 14 points (6x11 fg, 2x2 ft), including the game winner, and had 10 rebounds (4 offensive), 4 blocks and 4 steals. Rod Epps also had double figures for the Bengals with 12 points, 3 assists 3 rebounds and 2 steals. Brad Doyley had a solid game with 7 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds, and a steal.


The Redmen were led by Marlon Senior with 14 points (5x9 fg, 1x1 3's, 3x6 ft) and 8 rebounds. Malcom Kelly, starting in his first game in over a year and a half had 12 points (5x8 fg, 2x5 3's). Kevin Sykes also had 12 points (2x10 fg, 2x10 3's, 6x8ft) with 5 rebounds. Reese Herth playing in a bench role for the first time this season contributed 10 points (3x7 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x6 ft). Donte Logan had 5 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 6 steals.

Carthage was bothered by the Bengals press throughout the game and ended up with 28 turnovers. 17 of those TO's were steals. The Redmen had 15 TO's in the 1st half and 13 in the 2nd. The Bengals weren't particularly careful with the ball either as they committed 19 turnovers. Many of them came during that dreadful stretch when Carthage ran off 16 unanswered points to turn that 7 point deficit into the 9 point lead. The Redmen were in a position to put the game away with a double digit lead with 5 minutes to go but a 14-2 run by Buffalo State in the next 4:23 turned things around.

Carthage outrebounded the Bengals by a slim 41-39 margin. The Redmen shot 41.2% from the field (21x51), 33.3% from downtown (7x21) and 61.5% from the line (16x26).

Buffalo State was 41.1% from the field (30x73), only 13.3% from long range (2x15) and only made it to the line 10 times hitting 5 of their free throw attempts. (50%)


Tomorrow Carthage will take on Eastern Connecticut at 2:00 PM  and Buffalo State will match up with North Central in the championship game at 4:00 PM.     

I'm impressed with how the Bengals didn't quit when things were going the Redmen's way. Closing that 10 point gap in the final 5 minutes of the game by creating 5 turnovers and limiting Carthage to only 2 field goal attempts in that stretch (which they missed) says it all. In fact the Bengals were down 52-41 with 10:25 left in the game and the Redmen never scored another field goal. Their final 13 points came at the free throw line in which they were 13 for 20. Great job Buffalo State. Hope you can grab the bling tomorrow but even if you don't, beating a team that has already taken down 2 Top Ten schools is a pretty good accomplishment. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2013, 10:14:50 PM
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Joining the BENGALS at BUFFALO Wild Wings (seems appropriate). Team says "thanks" for the shout out Magicman!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2013, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2013, 10:14:50 PM
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Joining the BENGALS at BUFFALO Wild Wings (seems appropriate). Team says "thanks" for the shout out Magicman!!!! ;)

I expected that "I told you so" to be bigger, bolded, and orange!!! Easy on those wild wings you'll be paying the price come Saturday morning. ;D

PS. What in hell were all those double technicals  about? Not even the radio announcers could figure them out. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2013, 01:16:04 AM
Double tech were bs. The refs were D1 and D2 refs.  1 ref in particular appearred to want to show he was in charge whenever the opportunity presented itself. Called double techs on Carthages Senior and a Buff State freshman who basically bumped each other after a foul.

Later Justin Mitchell was fouled by Kastel  They had a brief word and bang double tech. Same ref. He also took time to  chastise Chris Thompson and Jordan Glover when felt that they overeacted to a call.  And, yes it was the same ref! Dont get wrong. It was a physical game by 2 teams who have been in the same hotel since Weds.

Two techs were called in the first game also.  And overtime win  by N Central.

Ps  Wild Wings was a blast!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2013, 10:06:36 AM
Now that i have had a good nights rest...let me tell a few things about last night!  Critical move was around the 13 min mark of the 2nd halfand Carthage in the midst of a 16-0 run, coach Ansari took all 5 starters out AT ONCE and put in 5 freshman. Many say that they have never seen him do that ever  High school or  college.

That crew of freshman led by Johnny Belton, went toe to toe and gave no quarter. Freshman Jovohn Owens ans Carthages leading scorer, Marlon Senior, even got into abrief shoiving match ( which resulted in techs on both and sending Seniir to the bench). When i say they gave no quarter i mean these freshman, Lovell Smith, Reyzhon Jordan,Jonathon Belton and Jovohn Owens did not back down an inch. Coach let me go at it for at least 4-5 minutes.

By then the starters got the message and by 1 account Carthage did not acore a fg in the last 10:25 of the game. No play by play but on the CCIW boards a postet postedthat stat! Hell I beleieve that he is right!!!!

Startwrs gradually returned and the rst is history
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on December 21, 2013, 10:34:48 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 20, 2013, 11:13:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2013, 10:14:50 PM
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Joining the BENGALS at BUFFALO Wild Wings (seems appropriate). Team says "thanks" for the shout out Magicman!!!! ;)

I expected that "I told you so" to be bigger, bolded, and orange!!! Easy on those wild wings you'll be paying the price come Saturday morning. ;D

PS. What in hell were all those double technicals  about? Not even the radio announcers could figure them out.

GOOD LUCK TO THE BENGALS VS NORTH CENTRAL COLLEGE TODAY!!!  GO BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2013, 01:40:16 PM
Good looking out ECSU. You know it's funny. I have been hanging out with the BENGAL coaches and for the past 2 mornings and we have had breakfast wtih E. Conns coaches. Last year we wrere both in a similar tourney in Miami and they all got to know each other. This morning the E Conn coach suggessted that we get NCC to turn it over "30 times". Gonna try our best!

Class act those East Conn coaches...and fans!

Good luck to E Conn vs Carthage in 23 mins. Heading over to see that game in a few. EAST COAST is representing!!!! :)

Go WARRIORS!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2013, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2013, 10:06:36 AM
Now that i have had a good nights rest...let me tell a few things about last night!  Critical move was around the 13 min mark of the 2nd halfand Carthage in the midst of a 16-0 run, coach Ansari took all 5 starters out AT ONCE and put in 5 freshman. Many say that they have never seen him do that ever  High school or  college.

That crew of freshman led by Johnny Belton, went toe to toe and gave no quarter. Freshman Jovohn Owens ans Carthages leading scorer, Marlon Senior, even got into abrief shoiving match ( which resulted in techs on both and sending Seniir to the bench). When i say they gave no quarter i mean these freshman, Lovell Smith, Reyzhon Jordan,Jonathon Belton and Jovohn Owens did not back down an inch. Coach let me go at it for at least 4-5 minutes.

By then the starters got the message and by 1 account Carthage did not acore a fg in the last 10:25 of the game. No play by play but on the CCIW boards a postet postedthat stat! Hell I beleieve that he is right!!!!

Startwrs gradually returned and the rst is history

I remember that mass substitution and I had the Buff State roster up on my computer at the time. I quickly looked at the subs names and observed they were all Freshman. I thought, Coach Ansari is not happy with what  the regulars are doing and he's making a statement with this move. I also considered the fact that as well as humbling the starters for a brief stretch, it was giving them some valuable rest that hopefully would come in handy when they did get back into the game. It all worked out for the best.

On a side note I wonder if wild wings were the only thing you were ingesting last night. There was a poster on this board that mentioned that same thing about the lack of a field goal in the final 10:25.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2013, 03:54:21 PM
Just one game on tap today in the SUNYAC but it's a big one.

North Central vs Buffalo State    at Orlando, Florida     4:00 PM

The Bengals are sky high after their come from behind win over Carthage College last evening. Tonight they have to face another CCIW opponent. North Central won a tight game over Eastern Connecticut yesterday on a disputed foul call with 2 seconds left in regulation. The Cardinals came away with a 70-69 win and hope to sweep their East Coast foes this afternoon. Last weekend the Cardinals went to Virginia and won 2 games against ODAC teams so this would be especially sweet to do it again and go back to Illinois with a 4-0 record over the East Teams. The Oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a slight 3 point favorite over the Bengals, which is the same margin that Carthage was favored over Buffalo State yesterday. Yesterday I picked Carthage to win and the Bengals came away with the victory. I'm not gonna mess with that mojo so once again I'm picking Buffalo State to come out on the short end of a 76-72 score. Several weeks ago when the Bengals hosted their home tournament and played 2 schools from the Ohio Athletic Conference I picked them to beat Ohio Northern and John Carroll. The Bengals lost both games. I figured I needed to do something to turn that around. It worked yesterday and I hope it works today. Go Bengals

PS   Carthage leading Eastern Connecticut 60-58 with 05 seconds left but Carthage is going to the line to shoot fouls. So it looks like Eastern will lose their 2nd game. Buffalo State needs to win to salvage a split by the Eastern teams. Oh yeah and to claim bragiing rights plus the tournament championship. Go Bengals       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2013, 05:40:51 PM

Buffalo State Leads North Central at the break  36-29

Bengals have been in control of this game since the early going. I'm not happy that they let the big lead get cut in half though.

The Cardinals were down by as many as 16 points in this game with 7 minutes left in the half but fought back to get it down to 5 points, on 2 trips to the free throw line by Brandon Williams, who made 1 of 2 each time.

It appears that a technical foul was called on the team against North Central, with 40 seconds to go and then another one was called with 36 seconds to play. Buffalo State's Jordan Glover made all 4 free throws to open up a 9 point lead at 36-27. Williams hit a layup for North Central just before the buzzer to make it the 7 point margin at halftime.

Landon Gamble leads the Cardinals with 12 points and 4 rebounds. In looking at the box score that live stats has provided it has notated that Kevin Honn has a technical foul, so that would account for one of the 3 T's. 

Rod Epps is the high man for the Bengals with 11 points. Jordan Glover with all those free throws has 8 points and Justin Mitchell has 7.
Brad Doyley has 5 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 steals. Bengals press not quite as effective as it was yesterday against the Redmen but still caused the Cardinals to vcommit 10 turnovers in the 1st half. bengals have 5 TO's.

I smell another barnburner coming up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2013, 06:02:20 PM
Here comes that barnburner I got a sniff of as Buffalo State leads North Central 75-70 with 1:13 left to play.

After the teams  missed shots and turnovers the Bengals  Chris Thompson is fouled and makes 1 of 2 and the lead is now 76-70 with 1:13 to play.

North Central commits another turnover and fouls the Bengals Justin Mitchell, who makes them both to make it 78-70.

The teams once again exchange TO's and then the Cardinals miss a 3 point attempt and foul Rod Epps, who extends the lead to 80-70 with 33 ticks left. This game is over and Buffalo State will claim the Holiday Championship. The foul parade is called off and North Central gets a basket with 10 seconds left to make the final score 80-72

Great weekend for the Bengals and the SUNYAC as the Boys from the Queen City did the conference proud.

I'll have more to say a bit later on. Big ice storm here in the North Country and I have to get home while I still can.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on December 21, 2013, 07:02:09 PM
Congrats to the Buffalo St Bengals for their tournament championship this weekend!!!  Hopefully Buffalo St  gets some D3Hoops top 25 love next week 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2013, 08:03:09 PM
Thank you very much ECSU alum ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 22, 2013, 01:41:13 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2013, 01:16:04 AM
Double tech were bs. The refs were D1 and D2 refs.  1 ref in particular appearred to want to show he was in charge whenever the opportunity presented itself. Called double techs on Carthages Senior and a Buff State freshman who basically bumped each other after a foul.

Later Justin Mitchell was fouled by Kastel  They had a brief word and bang double tech. Same ref. He also took time to  chastise Chris Thompson and Jordan Glover when felt that they overeacted to a call.  And, yes it was the same ref! Dont get wrong. It was a physical game by 2 teams who have been in the same hotel since Weds.

Two techs were called in the first game also.  And overtime win  by N Central.

Ps  Wild Wings was a blast!!!! ;)

That's my favorite spot to go watch games.  I absolutely love BWW's.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2013, 03:36:43 AM
Buffalo State 80    North Central 72

Hard to imagine the Bengals Florida trip concluding with a better ending. Two quality wins over teams from a top rated conference.  Brings back memories of their DC trip from 2 seasons ago when they won 2 games that went right down to the wire also. And of course there were the 2 wins last year in Miami over the holidays. That DC holiday tournament was preceded by one in 2010 at Worcester State where the Bengals picked up another pair of victories.  Lets list them here for a recap.

December 11th 2010 98-92 over Elms College at the Worcester State Tournament Elms was 4-2 at gametime

December 12th 2010 79-76 over Colby-Sawyer for the Championship of the Worcester Tournament  Chargers were 4-4 at gametime

December 31st 2011 80-77 over Wesleyan University at the Catholic University Holiday Tournament Wesleyan was 9-1 at gametime

January 1st 2012      82-81 over host Catholic to win the Championship of their tournament. Catholic was 11-0 at gametime

December 21st 2012   89-85 over Eastern Connecticut at the Miami Holiday Tournament  6-2 at gametime

December 22nd 2012  83-67 over Coe to finish the Tournament unbeaten  5-3 at gametime

December 20th 2013  67-65 over Carthage in the Orlando Holiday Classic  Carthage was 6-3 with wins over #4 and #9 of the Top 25

December 21st 2013  80-72 over North Central to win the Orlando Holiday Classic  The Cardinals were 7-2 at gametime

Tonight's win makes it 8 straight holiday victories over quality teams from all parts of the country. None of these teams had a losing record and in fact nearly all of them had very good records at the time of the contest. Several of them were undefeated or nationally ranked. Certainly a nice run of holiday tournaments for Buffalo State.  Also an awful lot of Cardinals in that group. (Wesleyan, Catholic, and North Central) The only Cardinals that really and truly matter however, the Plattsburgh variety, will prove to be much tougher birds to bring down. ;D   

In todays game the Bengals were led by Rod Epps with 22 points. Rod was almost perfect shooting the rock, as he was 8x9 from the field and 5x5 from the line. His only miss was a 3 point attempt as he was 1x2 from long range.

Justin Mitchell had 18 points (6x9 fg, 1x1 3's, 5x6 ft), 5 rebounds and 2 blocks. Chris Thompson had a double double with 13 points (4x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 5x6 ft) and a game high 11 rebounds. He also led the team with 3 steals. Jordan Glover added 10 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals. Brad Doyley only scored 2 points but had a career best 12 assists and was 2nd on the team with 7 rebounds.

Chris Boyd came off the bench and only saw 8 minutes of action but hit 2 huge 3 pointers in those 8 minutes. His first triple came with 6:26 left in the game and brought the Bengals back from their first deficit since early in the game when they were down 6-4. Buffalo State had just allowed the Cardinals to come all the way back from that 16 point 2nd half deficit. Finally gaining a 3 point advantage at 66-63, the largest lead North Central would enjoy, Boyd made sure it was short lived, as he buried his 3 pointer on the Bengals next possession, 22 seconds later. That shot shifted the momentum back to the Bengals  The 2nd bomb that Chris would deliver came several minutes later with the Bengals up 72-70. His triple made it 75-70 with 2:16 to play and was the basket that sucked the life out of North Central. After the Cardinals missed on their next possession they were forced to foul and the Bengals hit 5 of 6 from the line to put this game away.

Buffalo State outshot the Cardinals in every category. The Bengals were 25x51 from the field (49%), 5x12 from long distance (41.7%), and 25x38 (65.8%) from the line. They were outrebounded by North Central 42 to 31. Buff State had 14 turnovers while NCC had 18.

North Central was led by their preseason 1st team All American Landon Gamble who scored 18 points (7x12 fg, 4x5 ft)and had 4 rebounds. Tyler Sutton came off the bench and also had 18 points (7x14 fg, 2x8 3's, 2x3 ft). Vince Kmiec had 16 points (5x16 fg, 3x10 3's, 3x4 ft ) and led the Cardinals with 8 rebounds. Brandon Williams had 8 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds and 3 steals. Cardinals shot 28x64 from the field (43.8%), 5x21 from beyond the arc (23,8%) and 11x20 from the stripe (55%).

North Central falls to 7-3 and will return to action when they host North Park on January 4th to open CCIW conference play.

Buffalo State improves to 6-3 and will be idle until Friday, January 10th when they travel to Cortland State to resume SUNYAC play at 8:00 PM.

One last thought about the Buffalo State weekend. If North Central's Landon Gamble is a 1st team All American, then what is the  Bengals' Justin Mitchell? 1st Team All World? Gamble's weekend stat's: 16 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 12x23 from the field (52.1%) 8x13 from the line (61.5%), fouled out of both games (which I told a Buff State coach would happen). Mitchell's weekend stats: 21 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 17x28 from the field (60.7%),  7x8 from the line (87.5%)  didn't foul out of either contest. Too bad Justin was just on the D3hoops Team of the Week cause he certainly merits consideration for another.

The Bengals weekend may have lifted the SUNYAC up several places in the Massey Ratings. I know yesterday's Buffalo State win moved the Bengals up around 20 spots as they were #114 and they are now #90.

The ice storm here in the North Country is getting pretty bad. Freezing rain all day long and it's still going on. The forecast is calling for continued freezing rain all night long and well into Sunday. Tree branches are heavily coated with branches bending and breaking. Power outages occurring with frequency and I hope this isn't a repeat of the great Northeast ice storm we had in 1998. My poor dog can't even stand up to take a whizz as the snow is coated so heavily with ice that all he does is slide when he tries to lift his leg. Gonna have to train him to use the john I guess. ???                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan Q on December 22, 2013, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on December 21, 2013, 07:02:09 PM
Congrats to the Buffalo St Bengals for their tournament championship this weekend!!!  Hopefully Buffalo St  gets some D3Hoops top 25 love next week 8-)

Definitely good wins by Buffalo State over NCC and Carthage.  As I posted on the CCIW board though...

Keep in mind though, Bengals, that Carthage and North Central are probably projected to be the 4th and 5th teams (in no particular order) in the 2014 CCIW race -- Illinois Wesleyan, Augustana, and Wheaton seem to be the contenders for the top 3 spots heading into league play.  I think Elmhurst could even finish higher than one of these teams.  If one of these CCIW teams finishes 6th it won't be a huge surprise.

Buffalo State was 13-11 last year, 8-10 in the SUYNAC.  They came to Orlando with losses to Ohio Northern, John Carroll, and Hobart.  I think the "OK" tag by bopol was pretty fair for your Bengals...just as its fair for both Carthage and NCC. 


I don't think either of these wins is enough to get Buffalo State (with losses to Ohio Northern, John Carroll, and Hobart) Top 25 votes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 22, 2013, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on December 21, 2013, 07:02:09 PM
Congrats to the Buffalo St Bengals for their tournament championship this weekend!!!  Hopefully Buffalo St  gets some D3Hoops top 25 love next week 8-)

Definitely good wins by Buffalo State over NCC and Carthage.  As I posted on the CCIW board though...

Keep in mind though, Bengals, that Carthage and North Central are probably projected to be the 4th and 5th teams (in no particular order) in the 2014 CCIW race -- Illinois Wesleyan, Augustana, and Wheaton seem to be the contenders for the top 3 spots heading into league play.  I think Elmhurst could even finish higher than one of these teams.  If one of these CCIW teams finishes 6th it won't be a huge surprise.

Buffalo State was 13-11 last year, 8-10 in the SUYNAC.  They came to Orlando with losses to Ohio Northern, John Carroll, and Hobart.  I think the "OK" tag by bopol was pretty fair for your Bengals...just as its fair for both Carthage and NCC. 


I don't think either of these wins is enough to get Buffalo State (with losses to Ohio Northern, John Carroll, and Hobart) Top 25 votes.

Thanks for the feedback Titan!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 23, 2013, 12:34:18 AM
Whew. Back home in Buffalo. 86 degrees when I left Orlando and 36 when I land in Buffalo :'( . I've had a chance to wrap up the weekends events and I must say...I feel pretty good about them there BENGALS heading into 2014!

Chris Thompson, who missed 3 of the first 5 games (including losses to Ohio Northern and John Carroll) stepped up big time this weekend and showed by the BENGAL faithful have a lot of hope for this guy. Chris averaged a double-double for the weekend (13.5 pts and 10.5 boards) in the 2 victories vs the CCIW "middle of the pack" teams - Carthage and North Central.  Throw in "MR. All World" Justin Mitchell  who did  what....Justin does. He averaged 21pts  for the weekend and 8.5 boards.  Equally impressive was how these 2 big men matched up against the bigs of Carthage and North Central. Mitchell/Thompson combined for 38 points and 22 rebounds vs. the tandem of Marlon Senior and Mike kastel who had 21 pts and 13 boards. Even better was their effort vs Pre-season All American and 3 time 1 st teamer Landon Gamble and 6' 7 Jack Burchett with the good guys (BENGALS) putting in 31 pts and 16 boards vs Gamble /Burchett who had 22 and 10 boards.

Junior Rod Epps averaged 18 pts for the weekend (12 and 22) and Freshman Jordan Glover averaged 8.5 (not to mention his clutch 3 pointer vs Carthage with 1:11 left in the game, which tied it up at 63). Add a little Bradley Doyley, who nearly averaged double digits in assists (9 per game) and you have the mix for a decent weekend. Starting forward Maurice miles had to sit both games out and Chris Castren , who was injured in game 1 also sat out all of game 2. 12 people played in both games and everyone contributed in what was clearly a team effort!!

Expected more from the bench (3 pts game 1). However they did put up 15 in game 2 , led by soph Chris Boyd. What most don't know is how they, the bench, were extremely helpful in stopping Carthage in the 2nd half of their victory on Friday night. You may remember how Coach Ansari took out all the starters at the 15:14 mark of the 2nd period and went with 4 freshman and junior Legree Kirkland. What I failed to tell you was that over the next 6 mins that crew (along with Chris Boyd ) held Carthage to 4 field goals- 2 by Marlon Senior, 1 by Cameron Van Wyk and 1 by Mike Kastel. Van Wyks' field goal came at 10:25. What many did not know was that Carthage would not score another field goal for the rest of the game! That's right from the 10:25 mark of the 2nd half all they, Carthage, could only muster 13 free throws, not a single field goal. Hot damn (even as I'm writing this I'm getting excited!!!) That is probably the most impressive stat that this BENGAL supporter has seen from this team in quite some time. The starters gradually worked there way in by the 8 minute mark...kept the pressure up that the young "scrap dogs" had begun, and the rest was history.

With 14 non league games left the 'Yac is 33-24 (or something close to that). Here's hoping that we can finish 2013 14-0, which would put the 'Yac at 47-24 (almost 2 to 1 victories over defeats).

Ps Glad to hear that Magicman and thebear survived the big ice storm that hit the North country! :)

Happy Holidays to ALL ! ;)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on December 23, 2013, 04:40:10 PM
The 2 wins from Buffalo State this past weekend is more impressive for the SUNY conference than  it is for the Buff St. Strenght of Schedule.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 24, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
Eihther 1 works for us, NYHoops8. Thanks!

Massey's current S.O.S. rankings for SUNYAC - Brockport @ 91, Plattsburgh 95, Buffalo State 101, Oneonta 142, New Paltz 182, Potsdam 232, Oswego 256, Cortland 257, Geneseo 284 and Fredonia 374.   Not what makes that go up or down (but I know a guy at the "Music Shop" in Plattsburgh that would know). I'll be sure to keep and eye on it if he says it's a worthwhile activity! ;)

and....

Magicman... could you let Mr. Massey know about Saturdays results? He doesn't seem to realize that we beat NCC! >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2013, 02:23:22 AM
Merry Christmas to all the posters that frequent this board. Plus K to all.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 27, 2013, 08:52:52 PM
Just back in the 'dam, avoided the Ice Storm by visiting our son in NYC.  It was actually 70 degrees in the big apple the day of the storm.

Didn't totally avoid the storm as wifey got the family car hung on a 2 foot high ice bank trying to get into the garage, so I guess a front end loader will be my grownup christmas wish.

Nice rep of the 'yac by the Bengals, and hoping Rob Duquette will be back soon for the bears, Merchant Marine's widebodies took a toll on the bears in a winnable game on Long Island.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2013, 05:34:41 AM
After 8 days of inactivity the SUNYAC has a game on tap today.

Millikin University vs Plattsburgh State at Daytona Beach, Florida 6:00 PM

The SUNYAC is looking to go 3-0 vs the College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin. After Buffalo State won 2 games last weekend against CCIW teams, Carthage and North Central, it's the Cardinals turn to hopefully put up a couple of wins against some of the top ranked conferences in the country. Plattsburgh hasn't been in action since December 7th when they won a close game over Cortland. Millikin has had 3 games during the time that the Cardinals were idle and most importantly they played yesterday against Univ. of Wisconsin-Stout, the 26th ranked team in the country. The Big Blue defeated UW-Stout in that contest by a score of 68-56 a 12 point MOV and they were a 12 point underdog entering the game. That's a 24 point swing in favor of the Big Blue. Plattsburgh will take on UW-Stout on Monday and that was supposed to be the tougher of the 2 Florida games, but after Millikins victory over Stout that logic is certainly in question. I'm a little apprehensive about Plattsburgh's chances of coming away with a win since the Cardinals don't have a very good track record of winning after a long layoff. In fact they haven't won coming off the holiday break in the past 7 years. In fairness to the Cardinals the teams they have faced in those 7 years have been some of the top teams in the country with 5 of those teams having 20 or more wins, in the season they beat Plattsburgh and at least 3 of them were NCAA teams. Cardinals have only had 2 practices to get ready for these teams and both of them will have had a chance to shake the rust off. Millikin is an up and coming team that starts 5 sophomores. Those 5 all started last year as freshman. In fact their first 10 players in the rotation are 8 sophomores and 2 freshmen. The starting 5 has played 35 games together and will continue to improve as evidenced by their win yesterday over UW-Stout.

The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh an 11 point favorite, but I think that's too many. Millikin, with a 6-4 record, hasn't lost a game by double digits this year. I'm taking the Cardinals and I think it might be something like 77-72.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2013, 07:11:37 PM
Plattsburgh leads Millikin 39-28 at the half.

Cardinals had the early lead but Millikin hit a 3 pointer to go in front 12-10 with 13 minutes to play, for their only lead in the period. Plattsburgh then had an 11-0 run to take the lead and stretched it to as many as 13 at 36-23 with 3:27 left. Cards could have a bigger lead but shooting only 57% from the line 13x23.

Shavar Fields gets a rare start and makes the coaching staff look good as he leads the Cardinals with 13 points. He's also the only Cardinal who is perfect, going 4x4 from the field and 5x5 from the line. Shamoy McIntosh has 7 points, John Perez had 6 points and 4 rebounds, while Ezra Hodgson has a pair of 3 pointers for 6 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2013, 08:09:19 PM
Final Score        Plattsburgh State 71 Millikin 68 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 29, 2013, 08:47:32 PM
Now thats what im talking about!!!!  3-0 vs CCIW (whenever Massey realizes that we beat North Central >:( ). Congratts to the Cardinals!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2013, 10:27:03 PM
Plattsburgh State 71 Millikin U 68

The Cardinals finally break their  jinx and win after the holiday break for the first time in at least 7 years. After forging a double digit halftime lead the Cardinals, in sunny hot Florida, came out of the locker room to start the 2nd half, as cold as the North Country Winter. Millikin promptly went on a 13-2 run and took the lead at 42-41 with 5 minutes gone in the 2nd half. From that point on it would be a dogfight as the teams were not separated by more than 5 points the rest of the way. Plattsburgh regained the lead on their next possession on a pair of free throws by Shamoy McIntosh and would hang on to the advantage until they were finally caught at 58 on a 3 pointer by Jacob Kueker. The Big Blue would go in front 60-58 with 5:09 to play but John Perez made two free throws to tie it at 60. An offensive rebound by Deavis Johnson, who attempted a layup, missed it, but got the tipin, put Millikin in front once again. Plattsburgh's Coach Curle, not happy with the 2nd chance points given up by the Cardinals called a timeout. Plattsburgh set up 3 point shooter Mike Mitchell and he nailed one from downtown to give the Cardinals a 63-62 edge. Millikin's Johnson scored on another layup to put the Big Blue in front but Plattsburgh's Xavier Thomas  hit a jumper 20 seconds later to give the Cards a lead they wouldn't surrender. Plattsburgh scored again on a layup by Shavar Fields after both teams had missed scoring opportunities to make it 67-64 with 1:19 left. A steal by Shavar Fields after an offensive rebound by Millikin resulted in a Big Blue foul and Fields hit both free throws to make it a 5 point 69-64 Cardinal lead with 41 seconds left. Some strange calls near the end of the game to make it a nail biter right to the end. First, with the Cardinals leading 69-67 after a 3 pointer by Millikin's Tives Gardner with 33 seconds to go, the Cardinals' Ezra Hodgson was called for a foul when he set a screen for Mitchell with 17 seconds remaining. Miilikin now had the ball and a chance to win or tie the game. A three point attempt by Jacob Kueker was off the mark and Mitchell got the rebound for the Cardinals with 4 seconds to go and was fouled. He made the first and after the Cards took a time out he made the 2nd to make it a 2 possession game at 71-67. Millikin threw a pass to half court and called time out with 3 seconds left. They inbounded the ball and Kueker throws up a prayer from well beyond the 3 point line and jumps into a Plattsburgh player as he fires up the shot. The ref calls a foul against Plattsburgh, with 1 second on the clock. Keuker misses the first 2 free throws, makes the third, Plattsburgh inbounds the ball and the game is over.  After watching 8 games in the Sunshine State over the past several weeks, I've had my fill of Florida referees.

Shavar Fields led the Cardinals and tied for scoring honors with 17 points (5x7 fg, 7x7 ft) and 5 rebounds. Shamoy McIntosh had 15 points (4x14, fg, 0x4 3's, 7x10 ft) and a team high 6 rebounds. John Perez had 10 points (3x4 fg, 4x8 ft) and 5 rebounds. Mike Mitchell led the bench troops with 10 points (3x7 fg, 1x4 3's, 3x4 ft), 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Cardinals had a poor night shooting from long distance hitting only 3 x15 and didn't fare well from the line either going 26x40. The team had too many turnovers with 16 and didn't share the ball all that well with only 10 assists for the entire team. We'll need to be better in all those areas if we hope to come away with a win tomorrow over a UW-Stout team that won't want to leave Florida with an 0-2 record.

Millikin was led by Tives Gardner with 17 points, 4 assists and 3 boards. Jacob Kueker had 16 points 6 rebounds and 4 assists.  Cards held TJ Griffin to only 7 points, well below his 20 ppg average.

Cardinals outrebounded the Big Blue 39-32 but this game was won at the line because the Cards had 40 free throw attempts to only 22 for Millikin. We made 26 they made 14. 

Cards improve to 5-2 and will face Stout tomorrow at 6:00 Pm

I had this game 77-72 Cards and if the boys would have hit just a couple more 3 pointers I'd of had my 77 points. I'll attribute it to the rust from the 3 week layoff.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 03:41:41 AM
Four games on tap for today.

Dec. 30   

UW-Stout  vs    Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM    @ Daytona Beach, Fla.
   
Brockport State  vs    Hamilton      6:00 PM   @ Medaille College
   
Oneonta State  at    Averett      7:00 PM 
   
Geneseo State  at    Puget Sound      7:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2013, 03:41:41 AM
Four games on tap for today.

Dec. 30   

UW-Stout  vs    Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM    @ Daytona Beach, Fla.
   
Brockport State  vs    Hamilton      6:00 PM   @ Medaille College
   
Oneonta State  at    Averett      7:00 PM 
   
Geneseo State  at    Puget Sound      7:00 PM


....And your predicitons???? ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 11:59:12 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2013, 03:41:41 AM
Four games on tap for today.

Dec. 30   

UW-Stout  vs    Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM    @ Daytona Beach, Fla.
   
Brockport State  vs    Hamilton      6:00 PM   @ Medaille College
   
Oneonta State  at    Averett      7:00 PM 
   
Geneseo State  at    Puget Sound      7:00 PM


....And your predicitons???? ::)

Coming soon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 03:42:48 PM
Dec. 30   

UW-Stout  vs    Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM    @ Daytona Beach, Fla.

The Cardinals will have to play a better brand of basketball if they hope to leave Florida with a 2-0 record. They will need to cut down on their turnovers, improve their free throw shooting and make a higher percentage of their shots from long range or the Blue Devils from UW-Stout will surely take it to them. Stout had hope to challenge for the Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference championship this year against the likes of #1 ranked Stevens Point and #12 Whitewater and in fact, the Blue Devils already own a victory over Whitewater having beaten the Warhawks 74-69, back on December 7th, when Whitewater was ranked #4 in the nation. That victory propelled the Blue Devils into D3hoops Top 25 at the #19 spot. Since then, however, Stout has suffered back to back losses against UW-River Falls on Dec. 11th and on Dec. 28th against Millikin, both games they were expected to win. So they will be hungry for a win this afternoon and I'm expecting them to come at Plattsburgh with everything they got. Three days ago Stout was favored to win this game by a 3 point margin but their loss to Millikin and the Cardinals win over that same team has the oddsmakers changing course and the Cardinals are now a 2 point favorite to come away with the W. I, of course, cannot pick against my hometown  Cardinals, and I've even forked over the $9.95 I had to pay to see the game on a videocast from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical College (where the tournament was held). At least they gave you the entire tournament for the $9.95 so I've already watched 8 games and have 1 more to go. I'm thinking the Cardinals have shaken off the rust but am concerned that we had to play on consectutive days while Stout got a day off in between their two games. Also Plattsburgh was shorthanded yesterday as normal starter Jordan Moody was not even on the bench. Not sure what's going on there but it looks like he may not have made the trip. Despite that I'm picking the Cardinals to come home 2-0 and see them winning this game by a score of 74-70. GO CARDS!   
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2013, 03:52:29 PM
Call me impressed......

I emailed k massey ( of massey ratings fame) to inquire as to why our victory (Buff State) over North Central has not been posted on the massey ratings. I had been told earlier, by the sage 1, that if the NCAA does not recieve the score then he, massey, has nothing to report (since he gets his info directly from the NCAA).

I emailed him this morning around 11:37. At 12:33 (56 mins later) this was his reply......

"Arthur,
No, the NCAA didn't have those games in the report this morning.  Hopefully the SID will submit them so they can be included in next week's update.
Thanks."

Call me impressed with such a quick response from someone who gathers data for all collegiate sports!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 30, 2013, 03:55:50 PM
Magicman...truly impressed that you paid that sum to support your team!  Me...did not paid the lesser sum to watch my WBB game in Las Vegas.  Gave myself the excuse it was too late for me to watch :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
Plattsburgh State leads UW-Stout 22-19 at the half.

Sloppy first half by both teams as they combined for 24 turnovers. fortunately the Cardinals were on the short end of that statistic with 9 TO's to 15 for Stout. Both teams shooting poorly with 32% for each. Stout is 8x25, Plattsburgh is 7x22. Both also cold from long range. Stout 1x6 and the Cards 2x10. Plattsburgh is getting killed on the boards 23 to 8. They better turn that stat around or this lead will be short lived. I'm amazed we have the lead. Poor shot selection and some really bad turnovers. Stout has missed a lot of in close shots by their big guys. If they start making those this could get ugly. Lets go Plattsburgh... Play smart!!

Shamoy McIntosh with 5 points, John Perez and Shavar Fields with 4 each to lead the Cards

Stout with 8 points from Aaron Jenny and 5 from Hank Kujak.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 04:54:08 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 30, 2013, 03:55:50 PM
Magicman...truly impressed that you paid that sum to support your team!  Me...did not paid the lesser sum to watch my WBB game in Las Vegas.  Gave myself the excuse it was too late for me to watch :).

As I said amh63, I did get to watch a lot of games for the money. The other factor was I got to see the Bowdoin Women play 2 games, as they are at the same tournament in Florida.  My favorite women's player is  Plattsburgh State's Coach Curle's daughter Marle. She's a freshman at Bowdoin and already a starter. First time I've ever paid to watch an online game but this is my ninth game for my 10 bucks. A bargain I guess. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 05:13:40 PM
Plattsburgh has come out of the break and opened up a double digit 39-23 lead over UW-Stout with 10:27 left in the game.

Cardinals have extended their lead to 47-25 as McIntosh and Correa got hot from long distance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 05:42:25 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats UW-Stout 62-40 as the Cardinals go 2-0 in Florida. The Curle family enjoys a 4-0 weekend as Coach Curle's daughter Marle, who's a starting guard for the Bowdoin women also goes 2-0 in Daytona with a pair a wins. They will have a pleasant trip back to Plattsburgh I'm sure. Good job by the Cardinals to help the YAC with a nice pair of non-conference wins. 8-) I'll do a wrap up on the game a bit later. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 06:01:20 PM
Just went to post all my predictions for these three games and hit something that deleted my entire post. Now that's enough to make a grown man cry. Not the first time it's happened and won't be the last but man, I'm one PO'ed dude. Here's my predictions without the write up. Sorry

Brockport State  vs    Hamilton      6:00 PM   @ Medaille College

Brockport is favored by 13.  I see them winning 85-71. Coach Stockwell for Hamilton is familiar with the style the Golden Eagles play, having coached for a few years at Oswego. But that won't help him tonight. Brockport could move into the D3hoops Top 25 with a pair of wins at this tournament. They are currently in 32nd place but a lot of teams in front of them have lost since the last poll.


   
Oneonta State  at    Averett      7:00 PM

Oneonta is a 1 point underdog. I think Zach Mager will save the day. Red Dragons win this one 86-82.


 
   
Geneseo State  at    Puget Sound      7:00 PM

Will the Blue Devils 6000 mile round trip for this 1 game be worth it. I hope so. I think the West Coast teams are weak this year. I'll take the Blue Knights who are favored by 3 points to win this one 74-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 06:49:58 PM
Brockport State leads Hamilton 31-22 at the half.

Brockport jumped out to a 15-6 advantage but the Continentals came back to close with 2 at 15-13 with 10 minutes left in the period. The Eagle would put together another 11-1 spurt to make it 26-14 with 7 minutes left. Hamilton managed to get it back to single digits as the period ended.

John Ivy with 13 points,4 rebounds and 3 steals to lead Brockport. Patrick Coyle has 8 points, 7 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Matt Hart has 12 points for Hamilton. Nobody else has more than 2.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 07:54:07 PM
The YAC is on a roll:

Brockport defeats Hamilton by a score of 74-62 .

John Ivy with 24 points and 8 rebounds. Patrick Coyle with 15 points and 11 rebounds to lead Port.


Oneonta leads Averett 47-37 at the half.

Dan Lee with 20 points and Zach Mager with 10. Lee is just on fire from 3 point land...5 for 6 so far from beyond the arc.



Geneseo leads Puget Sound at the half 35-24.

Jordan Jones with 11 and Connor Fedge with 7 to lead the Knights.

GO YAC!!  Could a 4-0 sweep be in the CARDS.  The CARDS have aslready had a 4-0 sweep of their own. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
Plattsburgh State 62 UW-Stout 40

Nice win for the Cardinals today and will make for a joyous trip back to the 'Burgh.

Cardinals took control of this game early in the 2nd half with an 11-2 run that opened up a double digit lead for the first time at 33-21. It started with a quick layup by Shavar Fields on the Cards 1st possession. That was followed by a jumper from Shamoy McIntosh and then a 3 pointer by McIntosh. After a layup by John Perez made it 31-21, McIntosh got a steal and fed Fields who slammed it home for the 12 point lead. Stout managed another free throw and Ed Correa hit a 3 pointer for the Cards. Stout added another free throw and  McIntosh buried another trifecta. Getting 3 points to Stout's 1 quickly built the lead to 16 and after a pair of free thows by the Blue Devils, Ezra Hodgson made a nice move in traffic for a layin and McIntosh buried another 3. That made it 44-25 and it was time to light up the cigar. The lead would grow to 26 and Coach Curle would empty his bench with 2:23 left in the game. 

Plattsburgh was led by Shamoy McIntosh who tossed in a game high 22 points (7x13 fg, 4x8 3's, 4x4 ft) and also had a game high 7 rebounds. His 3 point shooting and 17 2nd half points was the key to creating the separation from the Blue Devils. Shamoy also had a game high 35 minutes on the floor. Shavar Fields with his 3rd straight start was the 2nd high scorer in the game with 14 points (5x6 fg, 4x4 ft) and 4 rebounds. It marked the 2nd game in a row that Shavar was almost perfect shooting the rock. His stats for the 2 Florida games are 10x13 from the field (77%) and 11x11 from the line (I guess we know what % that is) ;D.  The big guy has responded quite nicely in his starting role, although it does reduce the impact he had when coming off the bench to provide a spark to the Cardinals as he has done numerous times already this year. Four times this season he has scored between 16 and 18 points coming off the bench.
John Perez had 6 points, 3 steals 2 rebounds and 1 assist. Point Guard Chris Manning had 4 assists, with 3 steals and Ed Correa had 8 points and 2 assists. Alan Siergiej who doesn't see a lot of action came in and gave the Cards 13 big minutes to spell our forwards. Alan finished with 2 points, an assist, a rebound, and a steal. Once again the Cardinals were shorthanded as normal starter Jordan Moody was not in action.

Cardinals shot much better in the 2nd half with percentages of 52% from the field 38.5% from long range and 75% from the line. The turnovers were limited to only 3 in the 2nd period after 9 TO's in the opener.

They ended up overall shooting 20x47 from the field (42.6%), 7x23 from long distance (30.4%), and 15x20 from the line (75%).
Cards were killed on the boards 38-21.  Stout had 15 offensive rebounds alone and usually a stat  like that will put you in the winners circle. Plattsburgh ended up with 12 turnovers to 23 for the Blue Devils.  Our points off their turnovers (23) was better than their 2nd chance points off all those offensive rebounds (10). Add in the points they got off our turnovers (9) and we still come out ahead. The boys were much better sharing the ballt oday as we had 18 assists as a team compared to only 10 yesterday. Defensively we held Stout to only 5 field goals in the 2nd half and 2 of those came in the final 1:24 after Coach Curle emptied his bench. So basically our regular rotation held them to 3 2nd half field goals. Not bad against a team from the WIAC.

Stout was led by guard Aaron Jenny with 10 points and 6 rebounds. Brett Ahsenmacher added 9 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals. Hank Kujack had 6 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists. The Blue Devils ended up shooting 13x46 from the field (28.3%) and only 3x16 from long distance (18.8%). They were 11x15 from the line (73.3%).

Plattsburgh with a modest 3 game winning streak is only a mere 7 points from being undefeated. They improve to 6-2 for the season and will be off until they face the 19th ranked Middlebury Panthers in Middlebury Vermont on January 7th. Maybe this is the year we can end another losing streak as we haven't beaten the Panthers since February 5th 2008. We've had a few go right down to the wire since then but haven't had a victory in 5 years. It would have been easier if they were due for a visit to Memorial Hall this year but the last time we won it was in their house so maybe we can pull it off.

Massey currently has the Cardinals at #58. We were at #43 on December 15th with a 4-2 record. After Cortland and Potsdam both lost we slowly sunk lower and lower even though we didn't play a game. Even after our win yesterday we dropped from 57 to 58. I hope that once all the missing scores get caught up that we could rise into the 40's at least. Middlebury is currently #40. Richard Stockton who is ranked #12 only beat us by 4 points on their court. I would think that would count for more than we are getting credit for.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
Nice day at the office for the SUNYAC Conference  4-0 against the other guys.

Oneonta wins by double figures in Danville, Virginia as they defeat Averett College 92-79. I was pretty sure it was going to be a track meet as I had it 86-82 Oneonta. Zach Mager didn't let me down as I said he would be the best player on the floor and he ended up with 27 points. I didn't count on teamate Dan Lee hitting seven 3 pointers and dropping in 30 points. That would be called gravy. Good job guys.


Geneseo defeats Puget Sound out in Tacoma, Washington, 80-66 and makes their 6000 mile journey worth it. (I guess ???) Is that longer than the Hobbit had to travel? Jordan Jones 16, Gordon Lyons 12, Matt Curry 11, and Connor Fedge with 9 lead the Knights.  Lyons had 13 rebounds to go with those 12 points. Have a safe trip home guys.  I had this one  74-70 Geneseo. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2013, 10:05:59 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 23, 2013, 12:34:18 AM
Whew. Back home in Buffalo. 86 degrees when I left Orlando and 36 when I land in Buffalo :'( . I've had a chance to wrap up the weekends events and I must say...I feel pretty good about them there BENGALS heading into 2014!

Chris Thompson, who missed 3 of the first 5 games (including losses to Ohio Northern and John Carroll) stepped up big time this weekend and showed by the BENGAL faithful have a lot of hope for this guy. Chris averaged a double-double for the weekend (13.5 pts and 10.5 boards) in the 2 victories vs the CCIW "middle of the pack" teams - Carthage and North Central.  Throw in "MR. All World" Justin Mitchell  who did  what....Justin does. He averaged 21pts  for the weekend and 8.5 boards.  Equally impressive was how these 2 big men matched up against the bigs of Carthage and North Central. Mitchell/Thompson combined for 38 points and 22 rebounds vs. the tandem of Marlon Senior and Mike kastel who had 21 pts and 13 boards. Even better was their effort vs Pre-season All American and 3 time 1 st teamer Landon Gamble and 6' 7 Jack Burchett with the good guys (BENGALS) putting in 31 pts and 16 boards vs Gamble /Burchett who had 22 and 10 boards.

Junior Rod Epps averaged 18 pts for the weekend (12 and 22) and Freshman Jordan Glover averaged 8.5 (not to mention his clutch 3 pointer vs Carthage with 1:11 left in the game, which tied it up at 63). Add a little Bradley Doyley, who nearly averaged double digits in assists (9 per game) and you have the mix for a decent weekend. Starting forward Maurice miles had to sit both games out and Chris Castren , who was injured in game 1 also sat out all of game 2. 12 people played in both games and everyone contributed in what was clearly a team effort!!

Expected more from the bench (3 pts game 1). However they did put up 15 in game 2 , led by soph Chris Boyd. What most don't know is how they, the bench, were extremely helpful in stopping Carthage in the 2nd half of their victory on Friday night. You may remember how Coach Ansari took out all the starters at the 15:14 mark of the 2nd period and went with 4 freshman and junior Legree Kirkland. What I failed to tell you was that over the next 6 mins that crew (along with Chris Boyd ) held Carthage to 4 field goals- 2 by Marlon Senior, 1 by Cameron Van Wyk and 1 by Mike Kastel. Van Wyks' field goal came at 10:25. What many did not know was that Carthage would not score another field goal for the rest of the game! That's right from the 10:25 mark of the 2nd half all they, Carthage, could only muster 13 free throws, not a single field goal. Hot damn (even as I'm writing this I'm getting excited!!!) That is probably the most impressive stat that this BENGAL supporter has seen from this team in quite some time. The starters gradually worked there way in by the 8 minute mark...kept the pressure up that the young "scrap dogs" had begun, and the rest was history.

With 14 non league games left the 'Yac is 33-24 (or something close to that). Here's hoping that we can finish 2013 14-0, which would put the 'Yac at 47-24 (almost 2 to 1 victories over defeats).

Ps Glad to hear that Magicman and thebear survived the big ice storm that hit the North country! :)

Happy Holidays to ALL ! ;)


If we keep running the non-leaque table, then my Dec 23rd wish may come true. What are we now? 40-24?? ;). Congrats to the Cards for a DBDSBW (Double Barrel Daytona Style Butt Whuppin). Congrats to Geneseo for flying cross country to stake SUNYAC superiority claim in another state and conference (Northwest Conference). Ditto for Oneonta setting the state of Virginia straight, and the USA South Conference, as to where the best basketball is played. I was at the Brockport vs. Hamilton game and again the 'Yac, showed the NESCAC (New England Small College Athletic Conference, home of defending D3 Champion Amherst and also Middlebury and Williams college), that we can hold our own a neutral floor!

With Brockport playing at Medaille (vs the hosts) and Cortland at Utica, the 'Yac has a chance to go 9-0 since Dec 22nd!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 03:26:59 AM
After an outstanding 4-0 sweep on Monday the SUNYAC's record vs Non-Conference opponents presently stands at 37-24. There are 9 remaining games to be played and that will equal 70 total games. Remember 10 teams each playing 7 non-conference games equals 70 games.

Several weeks ago we were looking at 69 games because Brockport's schedule only showed 6 non-conference games. The schedule showed them playing a game at Hamilton as their final OOC game. However that Hamilton game was the first game of a tournament at Medaille. What the schedule didn't show was a TBA for game 2 of the tournament which has turned out to be the host, Medaille. The 2 teams will square off for the championship at 3 PM on Tuesday afternoon. So every YAC team will have played their maximum 7 out of conference games. The best we can do if we go undefeated in those remaining 9 games (which ain't gonna happen) would be 46-24.

Here's our remaining Non-Conference schedule and how I think we'll do.


Dec. 31 
Cortland State   at   Utica  1:00 PM   makeup from 11/26; location now Utica   Cortland should win this game, but then I said that about the SUNYIT game also. Can't believe the Red Dragons will lose to both Utica teams.
   
Brockport State  at    Medaille      3:00 PM    Medaille Holiday Tournament.   Mavericks with their 4th attempt to win a game against the YAC. Lost the other 3 games by a combined 9 points... to Buff State (by 5), Geneseo (by 2) and Cortland (by 2). They won't get lucky here either. Port wins this one.   


Jan. 1 
Oneonta State   at   Greensboro      2:00 PM     After handling Averett on Monday I think these Red Dragons will handle Greensboro on Wednesday. I think Averett is better than Greensboro. Another win for the YAC.     
   


Jan. 4 
Cortland State  at    Catholic      4:00 PM     Opening round of Catholic's 4 team tournament   
This is a tough one to predict. If the Cortland team that played Plattsburgh shows up then the Red Dragons win. If it's the team that played SUNYIT then they lose. I'll go out on a limb and pick Cortland to upset the Tournament hosts.

New Paltz State  at    Hamilton      4:00 PM  Hard to pick the Hawks here. I think that Hamilton wins it at home.   
   
SUNY-Cobleskill   at   Oswego State      4:00 PM   Desert is served for the Lakers. Another ho hum win. 
   


Jan. 5 
Cortland State      TBA   at   Catholic Univ. Tournament @ Washington, DC      Cortland will win this game whoever they play.
opponent will be either Misericordia or St Joseph's (Maine)   


Jan. 7
Manhattanville   at   Potsdam State      7:00 PM  If Potsdam has their big man back they could win. Without him they don't. For now I'm putting it in the loss column 
   
Plattsburgh State  at    Middlebury       7:30 PM  If this game was in Plattsburgh I'd pick the Cards. At Middlebury makes it tough to do so. I'll do the reverse logic thing and pick the Panthers and hope that it works so the Cards can win. So it's in the loss column.


That gives us a hypothetical 6-3 record in our 9 remaining games. If that happens we would end up with a 43-27 record, good enough for a .614 winning percentage. That would boost us up the ladder in the Massey Ratings and I think we would crack the Top Ten.

The NCAA would count our record at 39-27 since we have 4 games that they won't count and of course they are all wins. Our winning percentage would be .590 for their purposes. Still a pretty good figure and one that's higher than it's been in recent years I believe. Plus there are more quality wins this year than in years past. Should help us at tournament selection time especially if we have the possibility of a 3rd SUNYAC team getting into the dance.     
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 05:09:49 AM
Two games scheduled for the final day of 2013. Hope they turn out like yesterday's games did.

Dec. 31
 
Cortland State   at   Utica  1:00 PM

The Red Dragons are looking to get rid of the sour taste in their mouth that's been aggravating them ever since December 13th. That was the day they let SUNYIT walked out of Corey Gym with a W that was an early Christmas gift for the Wildcats. Beating the Pioneers of Utica College won't completely erase those bad memories but it will help. And if they can ride into Washington DC and come home with a pair of wins there, then they will head back into conference play with a much better frame of mind. The Pioneers are 4-3 but none of their 4 wins have come against a team with a winning record.  Both teams coming off long layoffs and the point spread has Cortland favored by an 8 point margin. I don't see Utica playing a lot of defense and Cortland has only had 1 bad game defensively. I think the Red Dragons will win and I believe the margin will be double digits. I see it something like 85- 71 Cortland.

Brockport State  at    Medaille      3:00 PM   

Brockport is looking to end the year with a 6-1 record. Only an overtime loss to nationally ranked #21 SUNY-Purchase, on the road,  has kept the Golden Eagles from gaining Top 25 status themselves. Had they won that game they would probably be the team with the #21 ranking. A victory today however, will put them in a prime position to move into the Top 25 when the next poll is released on or about January 6th. Right now they are #32 and there are at least 5 teams ranked higher than the Eagles that have lost 1 or 2 games since the last poll and most certainly will fall below them. Depending on what happens over the next 6 days will determine if Brockport can leapfrog over enough teams to crack the Top 25. In addition to the 5 teams that I believe Brockport will jump over there are 4 other teams with a recent loss that will drop in the polls but not enough to aid the Golden Eagles. However if any of those 4 teams incur another loss (and they all have games in the next few days) they might fall out of the poll completely, and we only need 2 more teams to stumble for Port to slip in the Top 25. 

The Medaille Mavericks have got to be one of the best 3-6 teams in the East Region. The Mavericks have lost 3 close games to YAC teams and also a 3 point loss to St. John Fisher. Unfortunately for them Brockport is the best team they will have to face all year. Anything is possible in the 350 seat Sullivan Center, of course, so an upset isn't out of the question. But the Golden Eagles have too much firepower and are too well coached, so I don't see that happening. The oddsmakers have made Brockport 12 point favorites and I think that's probably about right. This one looks like an up tempo affair so I'll take the Golden Eagles by an 86-73 margin.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 05:36:18 AM
Plattsburgh State got its 2 lines on the front page Monday night. Here's the quote:

"Plattsburgh State punished UW-Stout, which was playing without its top two scorers in Daytona Beach, 62-40. The Cardinals shot 52 percent in the second half."

I know it wasn't a well known fact but Plattsburgh State played that game without 2 starters as well. Jordan Moody who started most games last year (23 of 29) and 5 of 6 games this year didn't play in either game at Daytona Beach. Jordan is averaging 11.8 ppg.

Also senior Reggie Williams our biggest big man (6'6", 240 lbs) who cracked the starting lineup last year for the final 6 games and who made great improvement by years end (averaged 10.0 ppg and 5.3 rpg in those 6 starts) has an injury that has kept him from action  during the current season. We are hopeful Reggie can return in January once conference play starts up again.

Plattsburgh punished Stout on the defensive more than anything as the regular Cardinal rotation only gave up three 2nd half field goals to the Blue Devils. :o       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 07:19:08 AM
Major movement overnight in the Massey Ratings by SUNYAC teams.

Brockport jumped from 19th up to 13th  and the win they had last night isn't even factored in.

Plattsburgh moved from #58 up to #40 #39  I said in my post of the game yesterday that I hope the win would boost Plattsburgh up into the 40's. I got my wish there. Maybe after the 2 scores that are still missing get recorded we'll move into the 30's. Plus if Port and Cortland win today, that could help. The reason Brockport moved up 6 spots overnight is due to the wins by Plattsburgh, Oneonta and Geneseo, yesterday. So today the Golden Eagles can return the favor and when their wins are plugged in we can move up.

Geneseo leapfrogged Oswego and moved up from #91 to #53 because of their win over Puget Sound. That win moved them higher today, (53) than Plattsburgh was yesterday (58) I'm real happy that the Blue Knights flew 6000 miles for their win. It helped us all.

Oswego was ranked #66 and moved up 5 spots to #61. The Lakers actually dropped in relation to the SUNYAC teams as they were the 3rd highest ranked YAC team and now they are the 4th.

Buffalo State moved up from #98 to #77 and that move wasn't because of their win over North Central. That one has still not been factored in. The Bengals moved up because of  the Plattsburgh, Geneseo and Oneonta wins. I think the Bengals may pass Oswego when the North Central win is recorded. Buff State's Strength of Schedule is so much better than the Lakers. The Bengals have a SOS of 68. The Lakers is 245. (remember lower is better here). Brockport's is 63 and Plattsburgh's is 81. When the North Central score is factored in for Buff State and after the Cardinals play Middlebury on Jan. 7th, I believe the Bengals and the Cardinals will be 1 and 2 which is what I had them at, when I broke down all the teams out of conference schedules, at the beginning of the season. So the 2 scores that will still impact all of the YAC teams that have yet to be recorded by Massey are the Bengals win over North Central and the Brockport win over Hamilton yesterday. Since both of these wins are over teams from the "power conferences" they will boost all the YAC teams.

Cortland which was sent tumbling with the loss to SUNYIT several weeks ago (and hasn't played since) just moved up 15 placements from #140 to #125, again thanks to Plattsburgh and the others. I wonder where the Red Dragons (and all of us) would be if they had disposed of SUNYIT like they should have.

Oneonta with a 3 game winning streak just moved up 49 spots from #194 to #149. A win on Wednesday will boost them some more.

New Paltz moved up 9 spots to #259

Potsdam and Fredonia gained 4 spots each and are hunkering down at #360 and #361 respectively. The other teams can't pull these two up very far. At some point you have to win a few games or you drag the rest down.

Our Conference made a major jump again as I predicted it would. I had hoped we'd move into the top 10 if we went 6-3 in our remaining 9 OOC games, however Mr. Massey's computer liked what we did so much the past 10 days that we got bumped up to #10 already...we were # 17 yesterday. I believe that puts back to where we were before the Cortland loss to SUNYIT (and losses by Potsdam and Fredonia)  dropped us down to #19

I knew the wins against the CCIW and the WIAC conferences would be a big plus as those 2 conferences are consistently ranked in Massey's Top 5. Right now the CCIW is #1 and the WIAC is #4. Buffalo State and Plattsburgh helped the YAC just by scheduling teams from those conferences, to then win all 4 games against them was big.               

Edit: About 7 hours now since I posted this and I noticed that Massey has bumped the Cardinals up from #40 to #39. So Plattsburgh has achieved its highest ranking of the season so far. Still think we move up another few notches after the 2 missing scores are posted  and if we can get a few more wins in the next couple of days. Nobody else moved in the past 7 hours except Plattsburgh, so the extra nudge up  must be related to something good one of our opponents did. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 31, 2013, 10:32:58 AM
Scooterman has arrived--Alive and well down here in Florida and ready to participate in discussions. Hope all had a Merry Christmas. I am impressed with my beloved Bport Eagles so far, as they are looking like the early 2000's teams that were dominant in the SUNYAC's. On the verge of D3 Top 25 team. Go Eagles!!!! Good luck today and Happy New Year to all!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
Welcome back my fair weather friend. ;D Normally that phrase means one thing, but in your case it has a double meaning. ;D

I was wondering at what point you were going to make your entrance. When I didn't see a post from you after Port won the Wendy's Tournament, I thought maybe you had left this world. Good to hear from you again. Plus K to welcome you back.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 31, 2013, 12:55:17 PM
Thanks-Magic--I have been sitting quietly enjoying the nice weather playing some golf and actually got back into coaching HS ball down here in Florida. I am loving it! Great to see the YAC off to such a good start. I hope it continues for all teams so we get some recognition at tourney time,BUT my beloved Eagles got a real chance to shine. Experience, size, quickness,DEFENDERS, and some shooters with Coach Dunne at the helm. Watch out SUNY!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 01:03:39 PM
So we can expect to hear from you more than every couple of years now? Your Eagles look imposing indeed, but, the Cardinals, the Bengals, the Lakers, and the Blue Knights all possess considerable talent as well. And after todays game, Brockport has 3 road games to look forward to in conference play. Then the real season will begin for them. This other stuff (the Wendy's tournament, the Medaille tournament) that's just been foreplay. ;) :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
Welcome back my fair weather friend. ;D Normally that phrase means one thing, but in your case it has a double meaning. ;D

I was wondering at what point you were going to make your entrance. When I didn't see a post from you after Port won the Wendy's Tournament, I thought maybe you had left this world. Good to hear from you again. Plus K to welcome you back.

Damn magicman....remind me to keep in touch with you!!!!! :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 02:37:19 PM
...and speaking of Brockport. Around 12:30 this afternoon I went to lunch at the Colter Bay,  with a couple of co-workers to say good bye to our secretary who was leaving today for a better job! Lo and behold what basketball team was seated directly next to our table with 20 plus folks???? All of the green and yellow was too much to bear. I got my lunch to go!  :-[.

Go'Yac  :)

and welcome back scooter! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 02:42:41 PM
Damn. The SUNYAC prefect streak just ended. >:( Cortland lost to Utica 67-71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 03:01:37 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 02:42:41 PM
Damn. The SUNYAC prefect streak just ended. >:( Cortland lost to Utica 67-71

What is it with Utica teams and Cortland this year? ??? They must have gotten ahold of a voodoo doll of Coach Spanbauer. :P  Must be something to do with the postponements of these games from their original time and place that threw the Red Dragons off their game. Just when the YAC had climbed to new heights in Massey's ratings we'll come crashing down.(Not to far I hope) I'm not gonna let Fran Elia forget this. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 03:29:50 PM
Live report from Medaille gym.  At the 10 min mark in the first half it's all tied up at 16. Bport is in foul trouble !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
At the half it's Medaille 26 and Bport 27! Don't know who's the leading scorer or any of that stuff.  Do know that Carruthers has 2 fouls and is 0 for 7 on his last 7 shots. Ivy sat out a considerable amount of time also!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 04:28:25 PM
8:38 left. Port up by 3 48-45
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 05:10:31 PM
Brockport defeats Medaille 66-52. Not the track meet I expected but the MOV was what I thought it would be.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 31, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
I know the saying goes" Better to be seen than viewed," but in this case it has to be "heard from." Thanks for the welcome back, "Bengal." I know the YAC is a talented group, and my Bport boys can't just show up and expect to win. It should be a dog fight to the end, but we got the Great Danes to run over people. Should be a fun season. Start with 3 on the road but haven't played at home yet and 6-1. Road Tested--Isn't that a Goodyear commercial. Happy New Years!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 31, 2013, 06:38:51 PM
By the way, Bengal, the Bport guys are friendly group--They would have welcomed you for lunch. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2013, 06:55:31 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on December 31, 2013, 07:49:39 PM
Magic,

North Central loses to D3 poll #1 UW-SP by 2, 66-64, and I know SUNY Buffalo beat North Central by 8 or so,  Wonder if SUNY Buffalo could do the deed on UW-SP!!!! 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2013, 08:27:40 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on December 31, 2013, 07:49:39 PM
Magic,

North Central loses to D3 poll #1 UW-SP by 2, 66-64, and I know SUNY Buffalo beat North Central by 8 or so,  Wonder if SUNY Buffalo could do the deed on UW-SP!!!! 8-)

That result doesn't surprise me as the CCIW conference has 4 or 5 teams that can play with anybody. Carthage, picked to finish 5th in that conference has already beaten two D3hoops Top 25 teams that were ranked in the Top 10 at the time of the game.  I also think the Pointers are a little overrated. They're good and they may win it all but they certainly aren't unbeatable. 

I also think that the SUNYAC has 4 or 5 teams that can play with anybody this year. Buffalo State, Plattsburgh, Brockport, Oswego and Geneseo will prove to be a tough out for any team. Part of our problem is we play a double round robin and the top teams will beat up on each other so we'll all end up with 3, 4, or even 5 losses in conference play. When you have 10 teams in the conference, that means 18 conference games. We've had years when the 1st place team in the regular season had a 13-5 conference record. In fact several years ago there was a tie for the top spot and both teams were 13-5. Then if you get a loss in the conference tournament you have 6 losses meaning you had better be almost perfect in the non-con portion of your schedule, or you won't be receiving any at large bid.  Conferences like the NESCAC with a single round robin don't get hurt quite so badly record wise as the SUNYAC or LEC teams do. That's why they get 3 teams in the Dance quite often and our conferences rarely see that happen.

Glad to see North Central play #1 so tough. That rubs off a bit on all of the teams that played North Central like Buff State and your Warriors in Mr. Massey's ratings. Then all the teams in our leagues will receive a slight benefit as well.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2014, 12:00:30 AM
Happy New Year to all the D3 Posters.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2014, 02:31:04 AM
Quote from: ECSUalum on December 31, 2013, 07:49:39 PM
Magic,

North Central loses to D3 poll #1 UW-SP by 2, 66-64, and I know SUNY Buffalo beat North Central by 8 or so,  Wonder if SUNY Buffalo could do the deed on UW-SP!!!! 8-)

YES!!!!! Buffalo State could beat UW-SP!  SUNY Buffalo ( div 1) could also! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2014, 05:08:46 AM
One game on New Years Day

Oneonta at Greensboro in Greensboro North Carolina  2:00 PM

The Red Dragons finish off their southern excursion with a game against the Greensboro Pride. This team is from the same conference, USAC, as Oneonta's Monday opponent, Averett. Oneonta won that game 92-79 and the MOV could be similar today. The Pride enter this game with the same 2-6 record as conference mate Averett has. The 2 USAC schools have played three common opponents and Averett has fared better than Greensboro against all three.  The oddsmakers have made Oneonta an 8 point favorite but I think it will be another double digit win. I see the Red Dragons winning their 4th game in a row and coming home with a 5-4 record, as they get over the .500 mark for the first time since their opening season win over Rochester. The score will be 78-65 or something like that.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 01, 2014, 10:35:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2013, 08:27:40 PM


I also think that the SUNYAC has 4 or 5 teams that can play with anybody this year. Buffalo State, Plattsburgh, Brockport, Oswego and Geneseo will prove to be a tough out for any team. Part of our problem is we play a double round robin and the top teams will beat up on each other so we'll all end up with 3, 4, or even 5 losses in conference play. When you have 10 teams in the conference, that means 18 conference games. We've had years when the 1st place team in the regular season had a 13-5 conference record. In fact several years ago there was a tie for the top spot and both teams were 13-5. Then if you get a loss in the conference tournament you have 6 losses meaning you had better be almost perfect in the non-con portion of your schedule, or you won't be receiving any at large bid. 

Back in the Day, when the Bears were consistently in the national Top 10, SUNYAC played a single round robin, then a tournament.  Traditional rivals e.g. Plattsburgh/Oswego often played an additional game to roundout the schedule. 

Agreed double round robin hurts esp for the at large bid.  In '04-05 when we went to the Elite 8, three regular season losses were to conference teams we had already beaten, probably cost us the hosting, which wound up at Amherst, which was on Break, and had a facility that's laughable compared to Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 01, 2014, 01:27:51 PM
I understand the difficulty of getting 3 YAC teams to the dance. You need to play some strength of schedule outside the conference and be almost perfect to have any kind of chance for tourney bid. It would be great to see 3 YAC's in it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2014, 02:54:33 PM
Oneonta State trails Greensboro 40-33 at the half. Red Dragons found themselves down by double digits at 12-2,  5:15 into this game.  The Pride would increase that margin to 31-16 with 8:29 left in the period. Red Dragons did manage to cut it back to single digits and then got a bucket with 10 seconds left to make it the 7 point halftime edge.

Live stats quit working with 8:29 left so I don't have much in the way of stats. I do know that Mikey McElroy has 7 for Oneonta.
Apparently Greensboro couldn't afford to have someone man the camera for the videocast. Strangest webcast I've ever watched. The camera was pointed at one basket and never moved the entire period. For the first half you could see Oneonta on offense, but never got to see the Red Dragons play defense. I'm sure it will be just the reverse next period. I guess I'll pass on watching it though. Pretty sad. What's amazing is that you have an announcer doing running commentary but can only follow that commentary on one end. Must be cheap to hire a talker and expensive to hire a camera swiveler in North Carolina. ;D  Who knew? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
Speaking for the Bengals..... We would love to play RPI 1-6, at their place as opposed to Plattsburgh at theirs ( as part of the annual home away series that all Sunyac teams play). Both Williams and Middlebury have a win over RPI ( no disrespect meant to RPI). Give us a game at Curry 2-5, Mass college 2-7, Washington college 3-5 ( 3 of the victories that Williams has this season in their non conference slate) as opposed to visiting Maxie hall or Brockport and we will take it. the record of the past 6 teams that Williams has played has been a combined 19-31. Take away Springfields 7-2 and you have a record of 12-29 record for their 5 of thier last 6 victories.

Middle bury isn't much better. Last 4 teams 14-16. Take away Skidmores 6-2 record and you are left with a 8-14 record of their most recent victims!

The Yac schedule/conference is truly 1 of the toughest IMHO this season. I expect a down Cortland to be competitive at Catholic u this weekend and oneonta to serve notice in NC that the Yac is back!

Yac Is Back!!  I like that!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
Oneonta loses 91-75 >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
So Magic 1...what's the scoop on Moody?? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2014, 01:59:55 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
Oneonta loses 91-75 >:(

ON Monday Dan Lee and Zach Mager combined for 57 points in the Oneonta win. On Wednesday they combined for 20 points. That's the story of this game. :P 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: madzillagd on January 02, 2014, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
Speaking for the Bengals..... We would love to play RPI 1-6, at their place as opposed to Plattsburgh at theirs ( as part of the annual home away series that all Sunyac teams play). Both Williams and Middlebury have a win over RPI ( no disrespect meant to RPI). Give us a game at Curry 2-5, Mass college 2-7, Washington college 3-5 ( 3 of the victories that Williams has this season in their non conference slate) as opposed to visiting Maxie hall or Brockport and we will take it. the record of the past 6 teams that Williams has played has been a combined 19-31. Take away Springfields 7-2 and you have a record of 12-29 record for their 5 of thier last 6 victories.

Middle bury isn't much better. Last 4 teams 14-16. Take away Skidmores 6-2 record and you are left with a 8-14 record of their most recent victims!

The Yac schedule/conference is truly 1 of the toughest IMHO this season. I expect a down Cortland to be competitive at Catholic u this weekend and oneonta to serve notice in NC that the Yac is back!

Yac Is Back!!  I like that!

With the NESCAC being at a bit of a disadvantage coming out of the gates (they are not allowed to start practice until Nov 1), I don't think you are ever going to see the top tier teams consistently take on a difficult preseason schedule.  Middlebury attempted a tougher tournament this year and picked up 2 early losses - we'll see if that comes back to haunt them later in the year if they pick up some conference losses.  Regardless, if you look at the NESCAC from top to bottom there is not a team with a losing record in the conference. 

You mention Williams opponents to date but if we look a bit further you'll see their remaining schedule is against teams that are a combined 85-42 (67% winning %) so their weak SOS right now will improve dramatically over the next several weeks especially since they have 3 games against Top 25 teams.  Compare that with the Bengals 73-52 (58%) and you can see that Williams will have a much tougher road the rest of the way.  NESCAC is 2-1 so far this year between the conferences with a couple more games that could flip it around to the YAC's advantage.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
Hmmm interesting thoughts there madzillagd! Williams remaining strength of schedule is pretty strong. "Williams will have a much tougher road the rest of the way"!

2 things that I would say when comparing SOS between the 2 teams/ conferences. Please keepin mind that my comments were prefaced by saying "no disrespect..."! Also we, Sunyac folks, were talking about how nice it would to be able to schedule 11-15 non conference games as opposed to 7, which is the maximum allowable for our conference.

I must say that I am glad to hear that Williams strength of schedule will get better. Right now Massey has Williams SOS at 285! Not sure what you expect it to go up to later, but today its 285. Yes Middlebury is at 59 however Amherst is at 180. I think that speaks volumes of thier non-
conference schedule At This Point! BTW Plattsburgh SOS right now is 83, Buffalo State SOS is 66 and Brockport SOS is 64. Not sure how your math worked to equate Williams having a tougher schedule than Buff State, either now or in the future, but Ken Massey would surely disagree. BTW....Next highest Sunyac school SOS is Oneonta at 137. Next highest NESCAC school SOS is 1st place (conference wise) Bowdoin at 232.

I have no doubt that all 4 - Williams, Middlebury, Amherst and Bowdoin have final 4 potential. Thier current records say that they are all elite programs. However I still say that if our schools could schedule 60%-70% of their games against non sunyac schools with an eye (other than Middlebury) of getting "some" cupcakes on thier schedule, in hopes of going into a 9-10 game conference season at 9-1 or 10-0, then our rankings would be higher in mid Jan also. Currently after playing a "competitve" non conference schedules and then beating up on each other during 180 game conference season, our top teams can't help but have 3-4-5 losses when tourney time comes around. Cut that number of conference games in half and we, Yac, would have half of our losses.

Going to Middlebury every other year beats visiting Tuggle gym annually. Ditto traveling to Williams only on even years as opposed to Corey Gymnasium annually. We would all like to face Plattsburgh once a year or, Potsdam or New Paltz or Geneseo or (you get the idea). It just can't happen!

The YAC is Back! ;)

......

So is NESCAC!


ps I apologize for the gap in completing this post. The wifi at the hospital; that I was at, just stopped working in mid stroke (after writing Middlebury...) :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2014, 04:06:42 AM
Quote from: madzillagd on January 02, 2014, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
Speaking for the Bengals..... We would love to play RPI 1-6, at their place as opposed to Plattsburgh at theirs ( as part of the annual home away series that all Sunyac teams play). Both Williams and Middlebury have a win over RPI ( no disrespect meant to RPI). Give us a game at Curry 2-5, Mass college 2-7, Washington college 3-5 ( 3 of the victories that Williams has this season in their non conference slate) as opposed to visiting Maxie hall or Brockport and we will take it. the record of the past 6 teams that Williams has played has been a combined 19-31. Take away Springfields 7-2 and you have a record of 12-29 record for their 5 of thier last 6 victories.

Middle bury isn't much better. Last 4 teams 14-16. Take away Skidmores 6-2 record and you are left with a 8-14 record of their most recent victims!

The Yac schedule/conference is truly 1 of the toughest IMHO this season. I expect a down Cortland to be competitive at Catholic u this weekend and oneonta to serve notice in NC that the Yac is back!

Yac Is Back!!  I like that!

With the NESCAC being at a bit of a disadvantage coming out of the gates (they are not allowed to start practice until Nov 1), I don't think you are ever going to see the top tier teams consistently take on a difficult preseason schedule.  Middlebury attempted a tougher tournament this year and picked up 2 early losses - we'll see if that comes back to haunt them later in the year if they pick up some conference losses.  Regardless, if you look at the NESCAC from top to bottom there is not a team with a losing record in the conference. 

You mention Williams opponents to date but if we look a bit further you'll see their remaining schedule is against teams that are a combined 85-42 (67% winning %) so their weak SOS right now will improve dramatically over the next several weeks especially since they have 3 games against Top 25 teams.  Compare that with the Bengals 73-52 (58%) and you can see that Williams will have a much tougher road the rest of the way.  NESCAC is 2-1 so far this year between the conferences with a couple more games that could flip it around to the YAC's advantage.

madz,

Just a couple of things:

1. The Nov. 1st practice start really doesn't hinder the NESCAC schools all that much. As ballers do at all schools, they are in the gym playing five on five,  20 minutes after their parents have dropped them off on Sept 1st or whatever day the fall semester starts. I know a student who is at a NESCAC school and he was EXPECTED to be in the gym and working on certain things from day 1 of school. That applies to the women players as well. Do they have "OFFICIAL" practices with the coaching staff present prior to November 1st?...I would guess probably not (But remember it's not an NCAA rule they would be breaking if a coach or assistant happened to walk in a gym full of players and gave them a few minutes of guidance ;). My point is I don't think the NESCAC rule to hold off organized practice until Nov 1st is much of a disadvantage, if any.

2. Sure the SOS for all the NESCAC schools will improve because at  this point in the season, 10 or 11 games left on the regular schedule (out of 12 to 14 that remain) are against NESCAC schools, who have all been feasting on the many lesser non-conference opponents that New England has to offer. Their SOS has to get better. When you get to play a non-conference schedule of 15 games, it's much easier to get those 20 wins and you can usually count on a dozen or more OOC games to put in your bank. Right now the only NESCAC school with a decent SOS is Middlebury at #59 according to Massey. Next up is Amherst at #180, Bowdoin at #232 and Tufts at #235. The rest of the conference is ranked from #252 (Hamilton) to #377 (Trinity). Every one of the schools will drastically improve their strength of schedule because now they are playing each other and they all have winning records, thanks to those easy non-conference games. It really is a self serving system. ;D

3. I'm not knocking the NESCAC, I know that year in and year out they have 2 or 3 or 4 schools that have NCAA tournament potential. The way the conference is set up and the scheduling that each individual school arranges, does give them some definite advantages come NCAA tournament selection day. It makes me wish, sometimes, that the SUNYAC didn't have a double round robin so that we could be on the same page. Notice I said, "sometimes" I wish for a single round robin...the problem with that of course, in a competitive conference, is the inability for a chance at payback for those road losses. It's also nice to get to see the other teams in person, at least once a year, when they come to your house. 8-)

Nice to see you over here on our board. Stop by more often. Plus K.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: madzillagd on January 03, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
1.  I think we'll have to agree to disagree on the practice start time.  I don't think Williams drops a game to Southern Vermont if they play them with 4 weeks of practice time under their belt instead of two.  I think Midd only loses one of those early games and not two if they had more time.  Not a big deal but I do think it makes a difference.  I can't speak for the other schools but I know Coach Maker for Williams stays well away from the gym for the open gym period and will not speak hoops with the players unless they ask him a question.  He relies 100% on his upperclassmen to teach the younger guys the system, how to do things etc. during that time and no matter how good your leaders are, they are not coaches and can't provide the same instruction a coach would while they are in the midst of playing themselves.  I'm not making any excuses at all - I'm just giving the reason why I think they don't schedule tougher opponents to start the year.  If they had more practice time I do think you would see tougher scheduling.

2.  Any team that is trying to get over the hump has the opportunity to try and schedule tougher non-conference opponents to try and get that edge but few are successful in doing that.  In my mind it all goes out the window when the tournament starts and the top NESCAC schools have proven in this last decade that they are legit teams with their deep runs. Unless they stop having tournament success, there is no incentive for the top 3 NESCAC schools to mix it up.  They've proven it in the tournament which means they don't have to prove it in the regular season (to some at least), even though it would mean better games for us fans.

3.  Keep in mind that there are rivalry matchups within the NESCAC so you do play some teams multiple times as well as the conference tourney.  Williams played Amherst and Midd five times last year for example which is a lot more valuable in my opinion than going up against Trinity and Conn College a few more times.  Most teams have a couple nearby schools that they will always schedule as sort of a good neighbor policy.  I don't see Williams dropping Southern Vermont or MCLA for example because they are both within 20 miles.  While I can appreciate the typical round robin league, I don't necessarily think that it's 'better' than a single-game league.  I'm not sure what value there is in playing Fredonia twice and Potsdam twice this year versus playing four non-conference teams.  If anything, you've got to do twice as much scouting for the 4 different teams than you do playing the same two teams twice.  There's obviously value in the top teams playing each other multiple times but like I said, that happens in the NESCAC every year anyway because of rivalry games and the conference tourney.

Been watching a lot of games from around the country so it's interesting to hear the different takes.  Much better than having the same conversations on the same board every year  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2014, 04:32:49 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2013, 12:25:22 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 07, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
PS I couldn't help but notice that Geneseo is playing @ Puget Sound in Tacoma Washington on 12/30 for a 1 game trip? I'm wondering if there is a 2nd game that is not posted yet on the SUNYAC schedule. Seems like 1 helluva journey for 1 game! I could be wrong. Heck I bet the Bills to win the superbowl this past  summer :-[  so I have been wrong before! ;)

If you would have looked at Geneseo's schedule you wouldn't have to wonder!! ;D  Since they already have 25 games listed, you, of all people, would know that they certainly don't want to schedule #26. ??? ;D

But I do agree with you...it's a hell of a road trip for 1 game. :o

5,354 mile "road" trip... for 1 game.... to be exact!! They probably would have been better off, $$$ wise, with just 24 games? ???

I think I know why Geneseo made that trip to Puget sound. The following is a posting for next year from Puget Sound....

University of Puget Sound
Doug McArthur Classic 2014

Dates: November 21st -22nd 2014
Opponents: Puget Sound and PLU (2 West Region Teams)
Guarantee: $4,000- Hotel Rooms- T-Shirts- Meals after games- All Tournament Team

Guarantee 4k plus hotel? And it looks like they added a team. If this was the same incentive that they offered for this season then a 5,254 mile road  trip makes a "little" more sense. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 03:35:50 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if there are some number crunchers at Buffalo State, at this very moment, trying to figure out what the actual cost of the trip will be once they factor in the 4K, free rooms and meals. ;D I may have to alert the Plattsburgh State Coaching staff to this opportunity so they can cash in before the Bengals do. ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 04, 2014, 11:25:02 AM
Be Nice, I am one of the aforementioned number crunchers.

Not sure why Puget Sound is paying out of region teams, and they have minimal impact on SOS & Selection.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2014, 12:09:29 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 04, 2014, 11:25:02 AM
Be Nice, I am one of the aforementioned number crunchers.

Not sure why Puget Sound is paying out of region teams, and they have minimal impact on SOS & Selection.

Good question ther Bear! I cant find another offer like this 1 on the boards. There has got to be enough teams in that neck of the woods to fill a 25 game schedule. Even a new tourney in the Bahamas isnt offering that kind of incentive!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 12:41:02 PM
Three games on the schedule for today

Jan. 4

Cortland State  at Catholic University   4:00 PM

A month ago I was convinced that Cortland could go down to DC and win this game. Now after consecutive losses to less than stellar competition, I'm totally confused by this Red Dragon team. Catholic University comes into this game with a 5-4 record but their 4 losses have come at the hands of better teams that the 2 that recently beat Cortland. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 4 point favorite in this contest. I can't pick the Red Dragons here since they have burned me twice, so I'll take the Catholic Cardinals and hope that I'm wrong. The final will be something like 74-69.   

New Paltz State  at    Hamilton      4:00 PM

I would love to see the Hawks come away with a win here but I don't think it's going to happen. Hamilton has a 6-4 record but they have yet to beat a team with a winning record. They will struggle to make the playoffs in the NESCAC just as the Hawks will struggle to make the playoffs in the YAC. The point spread has the Continentals favored by 6 points, but all 5 of the Hawks losses have been by double digits. Maybe they can pull off the upset here, they are certainly capable, I'm just not going to pick them to do so. Once again I hope I'm wrong but I see Hamilton coming away with the W, 80-72.
     


SUNY-Cobleskill   at   Oswego State      4:00 PM

Coming off a 3 week layoff the Lakers take on their final non-conference opponent of the season. Once again it is another lightweight that occupies the bottom rung in one of the weakest conferences in the country. The Fighting Tigers haven't been winning many fights as they have yet to win a game against a Division 3 school. Their 1-7 record includes a 74-67 win over Bryn Athyn college which is a small Christian college near Philadelphia Pa. that has a total enrollment of less than 300. The Tigers have been competitive in a number of their losses but the opponents aren't of the quality they'll face today in Oswego. Cobleskill did play the Lakers close last year only losing by ten points, 80-70, but 2 years ago they were crushed 107-53. What we don't want to see is a repeat of the 2010-11 game when Cobleskill had the lead 62-61 with less than a minute to play. That's when Laker great Chad Burridge, bailed his team out with a jumper to win the game. Even then the Tigers had a shot at the buzzer to pull off the big upset. The oddsmakers think this game is a mismatch as well and they have the Lakers favored by 25 points. I think the outcome will be closer to the 107-53 score of 2 years ago than the 80-70 score of last year. Lakers have already beaten 2 other schools from this conference by double digits. They've beaten Lancaster bible by 12 and Cazenovia by 30. This one will be closer to the 30 point margin than the 12 pointer. Oswego wins 84-58 even with all the rust these two teams have acquired over the past month.     
   


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 04:53:59 PM
Cortland leads the  Catholic Cardinals at the half 28-23. Got video of the game but no sound except a solid stream of static.

At least live stats are working cause they aren't showing the scoreboard very often if at all.

Kevin McMahon is the McMan as he has 13 of the Red Dragons' points. He also has 7 rebounds to lead the way there as well. Blaid Estarfaa is next with 5 points.

Steve Limberiou leads the Cardinals also with 13 points. Kyle Phanord has 5.

Four lead changes and a tie in the early going before Cortland, tied at 11 ripped off a 9-0 spurt to go in front 20-11. Cardinals would close to 22-21 but Cortland would stay in front until the buzzer ended the half.

So far my strategy of picking the Red Dragons to lose is working. I just don't need a replay of the crunch time breakdowns that took place in their last two games. Go Dragons breathe a little fire on those Redbirds!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Cortland still hanging onto a slim lead 49-45 with 3:45 left in the game. This is that crunch time I was speaking about. Let's go Red Dragons, keep it together.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
This is beautiful. Live stats quit working at the aformentioned 3:45 mark. There is no audio and the camera operater won't show the scoreboard.  I don't know the score or how much time is left. Pricelss.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 05:42:05 PM
Third timeout in the past several minutes and not once does the camera pan to the scoreboard.

Whoop de do I just saw the score and it's tied at 51 with 1 something to go. Red Dragons hit a big three (don't know who) and then after a Catholic miss Cortland scores again but I don't know if it counts.  Saw a score 57-51 Cortland  It's looking good. Won't know anything more until they post a box score. Good job Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2014, 05:56:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2014, 05:42:05 PM
Third timeout in the past several minutes and not once does the camera pan to the scoreboard.

Whoop de do I just saw the score and it's tied at 51 with 1 something to go. Red Dragons hit a big three (don't know who) and then after a Catholic miss Cortland scores again but I don't know if it counts.  Saw a score 57-51 Cortland  It's looking good. Won't know anything more until they post a box score. Good job Red Dragons.

GOOD JOB MAGICMAN! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 06:50:30 PM
Final score Cortland State 62 Catholic 56.

The score was tied at 51 when I saw that big 3 pointer go in that was fired up by TJ Hefele. After Catholic missed I saw a made basket on a drive by Lamard Herron and a foul was called but I couldn't tell if they waved off the bucket or not. Teams took a time out and I figured I see how many free throws he got which would tell me if the basket was good but I got a phone call from my auto mechanic (my plow truck was broke down and my van's  battery died overnight due to the 25 below temperature that we had) and he was coming to my my house with my repaired plow truck and a new battery (YAY!!)  so I missed the end of the game. Anyway the basket was good and Lamard made the free throw and the score was now 57-51 which was the last thing I saw. With only 30 seconds left that old fashioned 3 point play was the dagger. Red Dragons hit 5 of 6 free throws in the closing seconds to make the hosts wish they had chosen one of the other teams to play in the 1st round of their tournament.

Cortland will play Misericordia Cougars tomorrow in the championship game. The Cougars defeated St. Joseph's (Me.) by a 68-65 score in the first game of the day.

Kevin McMahon led the Red Dragons with a double double of 19 points and 11 rebounds. Blair Estarfaa was next with 18 points and 8 rebounds. Cortland took pretty good care of the ball only committing 9 turnovers to 10 for Catholic, but the Dragons didn't share the ball well as the team only had a total of 5 assists. They outrebounded the Cardinals  45 to 32. The teams both suffered a poor night of shooting and ended up with nearly identical percentages. Cards were 35.4% from the field, Catholic was 35.2%. Cortland was 25.0% from 3 point range Cards were 25.9%. Finally Cortland was 75.0% from the stripe and Catholic was 73.%. Both teams made 7 three pointers as well.

The Red Dragons game will tip off tomorrow at 4:00 PM.


This is my quote from a post on December 10th in a reply to Fran Elia:  "FWIW, I think you can beat Catholic. I was impressed with how well Cortland has been playing despite all the players lost from last year's team."

And after Fran told me who the other two teams were in the tournament I said this:  "I'm pretty sure Cortland would win a matchup against those other 2 teams (Misericordia or St. Joe's). Could be the championship game is played on the first day."

So I said a month ago that Cortland could beat all of these teams. Then they go out and lose 2 games to the Utica schools that they had no right losing just to make me look bad I guess. :P  I knew I had to do something drastic so I pulled the old Buffalo State trick out of my hat and picked against them just as I did with the Bengals went they played in their holiday tournament. It worked then and it worked again today. I would expect some kind of phone call or post from the Cortland SID since I feel my efforts went a long way in helping to secure this victory. :D

Looks like I was right about that other thing as well. The Championship Game was played today, cause we all know that the Championship Game almost always invovles the host team. ;D  Good job Cortland, win the other championship game tomorrow and I'll almost forgive you for losing both of the Utica games. Notice I said almost. ::)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 07:02:17 PM
Final score:   New Paltz 75 Hamilton 69. Fine job by the RedHawks to take down a NESCAC team.


Oswego 83 Cobleskill 51       As the YAC goes 3-0 on the day. I said it would be 84 to 58. Hard to predict how big these blowout type
                                          games can be but I was close.                                                                                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 04, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
Magicman,

If you picking against Cortland is all it takes for the Red Dragons to win, then keep picking against them!! :)

I was with you, by the way - I think I yelled at least 10 times at my computer screen: "pan the camera to the scoreboard!!" Trust me, I know about dealing with technical issues (we've had our video and/or live stats go down many times), but with no sound on the broadcast, I was hoping they'd at least show the scoreboard during timeouts. Interesting, too, that they seem to be using the media timeout format for the games (something we only did during the NCAA tournament last year, by NCAA rule, but not during the regular season).

Keep up the good work. Hope you're surviving our lovely Northeast winter so far.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 04, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Once upon a time that school churned out a few good broadcasters. Clearly times have changed.  :-\
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 04, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Once upon a time that school churned out a few good broadcasters. Clearly times have changed.  :-\


I'm thinking of this Guru guy I've heard about, as getting his feet wet at Catholic. ;D Nice to see you got my email about the SUNY-Cortland thing instead of Cortland State and made the changes on all the appropriate schedules.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2014, 11:35:09 PM
Quote from: franelia on January 04, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
Magicman,

If you picking against Cortland is all it takes for the Red Dragons to win, then keep picking against them!! :)

I was with you, by the way - I think I yelled at least 10 times at my computer screen: "pan the camera to the scoreboard!!" Trust me, I know about dealing with technical issues (we've had our video and/or live stats go down many times), but with no sound on the broadcast, I was hoping they'd at least show the scoreboard during timeouts. Interesting, too, that they seem to be using the media timeout format for the games (something we only did during the NCAA tournament last year, by NCAA rule, but not during the regular season).

Keep up the good work. Hope you're surviving our lovely Northeast winter so far.

Fran

But I hate to pick against my YAC teams, Fran, and you do know that I really believed  Cortland would win that game. Plus I'm not picking against them tomorrow so tell Coach Spanbauer the boys are on their own and I expect a win to make up for their 2nd Utica game.  1 down and 1 to go.  Gosh the SUNYAC has been collecting a lot of bling this year. Buffalo State, Brockport, Plattsburgh State, all tournament winners... even New Paltz was 2-0 on the west coast.  Course the Bengals couldn't win their own tournament :P. (I couldn't resist) ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 05, 2014, 01:09:08 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 04, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Once upon a time that school churned out a few good broadcasters. Clearly times have changed.  :-\


I'm thinking of this Guru guy I've heard about, as getting his feet wet at Catholic. ;D Nice to see you got my email (emails) about the SUNY-Cortland thing instead of Cortland State and made the changes on all the appropriate schedules.

I did. It had been input correctly but Catholic's SID felt it necessary to change the database yesterday rather than use the tools Presto provides to adjust a team's display.

Not just me, but the guy who followed me and now is calling LIU games ... he was pretty good, too. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 01:42:57 AM
Quote from: franelia on January 04, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
Magicman,

If you picking against Cortland is all it takes for the Red Dragons to win, then keep picking against them!! :)

Ahh, if it was only that easy, Fran. We'd have 4 teams going to the dance and all advancing to the Sweet 16 at least. ::)



Quote from: franelia on January 04, 2014, 10:06:53 PM
Magicman,

Keep up the good work. Hope you're surviving our lovely Northeast winter so far.
Fran

I'm surviving, but barely. Between the snowstorms in early and mid-December, followed by the ice storm that hammered us on Dec. 21st, 22nd, and 23rd, it was really bad. Then the bitter cold comes this entire week which has left us with 20 below nights and 6 to 10 below days. (It did warm up a bit today and reached double digits) That just increased everything that was frozen and made all the snowbanks turn into piles of concrete basically. I'm driving my van down the road on the Monday before Christmas on my way to my store and a giant chunk of snow slides off of a snowbank and into the road just as I'm approaching. A car was in the lane next to me so I could only slow down as much as possible but hit this chunk and it took out my bumper. $1100.00 in damage. Fortunately my insurance company put the damage in as a comprehensive claim and I only had to pay $50.00 deductible, which my repairman will cover for me by discounting my bill. Business was affected just before Christmas with the ice storm and with this week's arctic blast, nobody's shopping unless it's for absolute necessities.

On the plus side there's 3 games next week starting with Middlebury on Tuesday.  I plan to travel over to Vermont and see that one. (Providing I'm not stuck all day in court with jury duty that was just foisted upon me) Then we host Geneseo and Brockport on the weekend. Three huge games for the Cardinals. That will lift my spirits out of these winter doldrums. Even if we don't win I know I'm going to see 3 very good games. And if we do win all three,  then I get to walk on air for the next week or so. 8-)

Good luck tomorrow. Hope you come home with more bling!!       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 02:05:32 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 05, 2014, 01:09:08 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 04, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Once upon a time that school churned out a few good broadcasters. Clearly times have changed.  :-\


I'm thinking of this Guru guy I've heard about, as getting his feet wet at Catholic. ;D Nice to see you got my email (emails) about the SUNY-Cortland thing instead of Cortland State and made the changes on all the appropriate schedules.

I did. It had been input correctly but Catholic's SID felt it necessary to change the database yesterday rather than use the tools Presto provides to adjust a team's display.

Not just me, but the guy who followed me and now is calling LIU games ... he was pretty good, too. :)

That would explain it.  And I forgot I sent 2 emails. Was just surprised when I tried to click on SUNY-Cortland off the scoreboard and it reacted like it does when it's not a D3 school. 

The LIU announcer and you, need to return to the old Alma Mater and give those young  whippersnappers a few pointers. I don't know about Fran but I'm surprised the camera operator in DC couldn't hear me from my office in Plattsburgh I was yelling so loud at him to show the scoreboard. It's a good thing we won after what he put us though. ::) That must have been Karma, good for us and bad for Catholic. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 05, 2014, 02:06:21 PM
Pat, I e-mailed Catholic's SID last night and asked her to make the changes. Didn't know there was a way for her just to reconcile the names or I would have asked her to do that instead. She made the changes today, and she's been great with everything so far.

I assume no sound yesterday may be a result of it being a break between semesters. Understandable. Appears Misericordia will have radio coverage today, based on links on their web site, so I will try to listen while I'm watching.

Magicman, you got the bad end of the weather deal. Glad the car accident wasn't worse. We got about 12 inches of snow where I am in Central New York, but you got it worse.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 05, 2014, 02:13:53 PM
Yeah -- you probably know you are "Cortland St." in the Presto database, but those with Presto sites have the option to customize a name to make it say whatever they like. (Cortland, SUNY Cortland, State University of New York at Cortland, Cortland State, Hated Cortaca Archrival, etc.)

If they change the database entry, though, it means the database no longer knows that Cortland State, NCAA RPI code 168, is playing in this game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2014, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2014, 11:35:09 PM
  1 down and 1 to go.  Gosh the SUNYAC has been collecting a lot of bling this year. Buffalo State, Brockport, Plattsburgh State, all tournament winners... even New Paltz was 2-0 on the west coast.  Course the Bengals couldn't win their own tournament :P. (I couldn't resist) ;D   

Nice 1 Magic........nice 1!!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 04:01:55 PM
Only game in town today.

Misericordia  at  Cortland State  at Catholic University   4:00 PM

The Red Dragons have already defeated the toughest team in this tournament. If they fail to bring home the bling after taking down host Catholic yesterday, then it will be their inability to score from the perimeter that will be their downfall. Misericordia is a .500 team that hasn't won a game in their conference yet this year. They have a loss to  conference rival Manhanttanville  by a 73-63 score several weeks ago. That same Manhattenville team was soundly defeated by Hamilton 85-69, and Hamilton has already played 3 YAC teams, losing to Brockport and New Paltz, while barely winning against Oneonta. I think Cortland is a stronger team than Oneonta or New Paltz so that makes me believe that the Red Dragon can handle Misericordia.

Both teams look to use a 10 man rotation, however yesterday the Cougars really only went 7 deep and Cortland had 8 players with double digit minutes. Oddsmakers have the Red Dragons favored by 8 points. I think that's pretty close. I think that Cortland wins this game by a 72-66 final.  Go Red Dragons!!     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
Cortland on a basket by Matt McGowan with 41 seconds left in the 1st half, heads into the locker room with a 32-31 lead over Misericordia.

Red Dragons fall behind by double digits at 13-3,  6 minutes into the period. Still down by 10 at 17-7 with 12 minutes to go the Red Dragons start to creep closer. 4 straight points by Kevin McMahon made it 22-16 and then Brendan Ferguson and Lamard herron took over for Cortland. Ferguson swished a triple, Herron hit a pair of free throws, followed by his own 3 pointer and then Ferguson hit another jumper. Just like that the score was 26-22 Cortland and  the Cougars were forced to take a time out. They hit a pair of free throws after the TO but Herron did the same for Cortland. 5 straight points put the Cougars back in front 29-28 with 2:29 to play and the teams alternated baskets until the end of the period with Cortland getting in the last lick by McGowan

Herron with 12 points for Cortland to lead all scorers. McMahon with 10 points and 4 rebounds. Ferguson with 5 points and McGowan with 4.

Erik Kerns is high man for Misericordia and Matt Greene is next with 6 points. Steve Ware is the top rebounder in the game with 6 boards and 4 points.

Cortland with 7 turnovers, Cougars with 8. Corts up 16-11 in the rebounding battle.

Keep it up Red Dragons!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
Well here we go again. Video with no sound and Live stats once again quit working with the score at 41 to 41. Just following the action and know that Cortland has 45 now 48 points Red Dragons hit another 3 pointer and force a time out. Hey they went to the scoredboard this time. Pat Coleman must have given those guys a call. ;D  Cortland leads 51-43 with 10:40 left to play.


Live stats on and off now. Cortland leads 56-48 with 7:58 left in the game Time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 05:34:14 PM
Cortland leading 60-52 with 4:43 left to go.


Corts up 62-54 with 3:04 to go.

Corts up 65-59 with 1:11 to go. Cougars just got a basket and a foul will go to the line to try and make it 65-60. Dragons will need to make some free throws down the stretch. 2 straight turnovers on their last two trips down. That doesn't help.


65-60 43 seconds to go Corts turned it over again. Cougars missed a 3 got the rebound took a time out. Missed another shot, ball went out of bounds off the Cougars, and the Red Dragon get fouled on the inbounds. Corts make both free throws to go up 67-60, Cougars turn it over,  this game is history.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 05:55:55 PM
Cortland wins the Catholic University Tournament by defeating Misericordia 69-62. pretty close to my prediction of a 72-66 Cortland victory.

Fran, I feel a lot better prediciting a Cortland win and having it happen, than predicting a loss and hoping that the team will prove me wrong. 8-)  I'm pleased that my thoughts of a month ago came to fruition. I  guess I will have to forgive the Red Dragons for the two Utica losses....well almost anyways ;D.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 06:23:12 PM
Well I had a nice write up all done about the Cortland game and hit the back button by mistake and it disappeared. There should be a way you can re-energize that post. Maybe I'll do it again when I get home. :( >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2014, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2014, 06:23:12 PM
Well I had a nice write up all done about the Cortland game and hit the back button by mistake and it disappeared. There should be a way you can re-energize that post. Maybe I'll do it again when I get home. :( >:(

Magic 1.  You have been doing that a lot lately ( accidently deleting your posts).  :-[ is there something that we should know there buddy or are you just too excited about the fact that....
THE YAC IS BACK!?!?!

Ps congrats to Fran and the Red Dragons on 2 fine wins in our nations capital!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2014, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2014, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2014, 06:23:12 PM
Well I had a nice write up all done about the Cortland game and hit the back button by mistake and it disappeared. There should be a way you can re-energize that post. Maybe I'll do it again when I get home. :( >:(

Magic 1.  You have been doing that a lot lately ( accidently deleting your posts).  :-[ is there something that we should know there buddy or are you just too excited about the fact that....
THE YAC IS BACK!?!?!

Ps congrats to Fran and the Red Dragons on 2 fine wins in our nations capital!! ;)

I think you, my friend, are the one that's mixed up. ::) Where in that quote of mine that you copied and pasted, did I say that I deleted my post. ??? I stated... I hit the back button by mistake and it disappeared. I never even used the word deleted :P Just because one hits the back button shouldn't give the computer or the D3hoops website, the ability to erase what one has written. :o After all, if I pull up the Buffalo State Basketball website the front page appears.  If I then click on the  Roster link, up pops the picture and the players. When I hit the back button on purpose or by mistake the team doesn't disappear, so why should a post I've made out disappear? Think about that one. Someone needs to add a feature to computers  where everything you type is saved until you Wish to have it deleted. I'd buy one of those tomorrow. :D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2014, 01:20:39 AM
Cortland 69 Misericordia 62   

Congratulations RED DRAGONSS on coming home with the hardware from the Catholic Tournament

This game was close at the break and remained close in the early stages of the second half. The teams traded baskets for the first 5:47 of the period which resulted in 4 lead changes and 5 ties the last coming when Cortland's Matt McGowan made a layup to tie the score at 43. After a Cougar turnover, Kevin McMahon got another inside basket to give the Red Dragons a lead they wouldn't surrender. The next few minutes marked the turning point of the contest. In my pre-game write up I mentioned that the Cortland perimeter game was going to make the difference in the outcome. After each team had wasted several possessions, Cortland's Brendan Ferguson drained a 3 pointer. The Cougars missed on their next attempt and Garen Spendjian buried another triple, forcing the Misericordia coach to take a time out, with 11 minutes to play and the Red Dragons now up by a 51-43 margin.  Shortly after the time out Lamard Herron made another 3 pointer which gave Cortland the largest lead either team enjoyed all day at 54-43 with 9:29 remaining. The 13-0 run by Cortland created the necessary daylight and the Cougars never got closer than 5 points the rest of the way. When 2 Cougar free throws narrowed the gap to a 56-50 score,  Spendjian was johnny on the spot once again with another long range bomb to deflate the Cougar comeback attempt. Late in the game when the Cougars cut the margin to 65-60, TJ Hefele hit 4 of 6  free throws to close out the team from Dallas, Pennsylvania.

Cortland was led by Lamard Herron with 20 points (6x11 fg, 4x6 3's, 4x5 ft). Kevin McMahon added 17 points (8x2 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x3 ft), 6  rebounds and 3 blocks. Matt McGowan had a double double of 10 points (5x6 fg) and 10 rebounds. Red Dragons won the rebounding war 28 to 23, but lost the turnover battle 17-13. They shot much better today, hitting 52.2% of their field goal attempts (24x46). Cortland was also much improved from long range hitting at a 47.1 % clip (8x17). Those 2 stats are just what the doctor ordered as the Dragons have struggled with their shots in the last 4 games prior to this one. They were 13x20 from the line (65%)

Kevin McMahon was chosen as the MVP of the tournament and Lamard Herron joined him on the All Tournament Team. Misericordia's Steve Ware, Catholic's Steve Limberiou and Jerome Diggs of St. Joseph's (Maine) were the other 3 players named to the all-tournament team.
     


Cougars had 4 players in double figures led by Erik Kerns with 17 points and 6 rebounds. Joe Busacca, Matt Greene and Steve Ware all had 11 points each. Ware also recorded a double double grabbing a game high 11 rebounds. Cougars were better than the Cortland club from the charity stripe as they made 19x22 (86.4%) but couldn't keep up from the field and long range. They were 19x47 from the field (40.4%) and only 5x22 (22.7% from the 3 point line.

Cortland has now completed non-conference play, finishing that portion of their schedule with a 5-2 mark. Overall they stand at 6-3 (1-1 conference) and will return to action when they travel to New Paltz on Tuesday, before they host Buffalo State and Fredonia on the weekend. Looks like a 2-1 week for the fire breathers coming up.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 06, 2014, 11:47:55 AM
Cortland has been a tough team to figure out this year but their last two wins bode well for their prospects going forward.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 06, 2014, 04:07:53 PM
Maybe I'm being a NY homer but I would not be shocked at a Plattsburgh win tomorrow night. Middlebury's defense is very kind to opposing teams and Plattsburgh's backcourt could provide fits for them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2014, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on January 06, 2014, 04:07:53 PM
Maybe I'm being a NY homer but I would not be shocked at a Plattsburgh win tomorrow night. Middlebury's defense is very kind to opposing teams and Plattsburgh's backcourt could provide fits for them.

In the National Pick Em League which I belong to, it was my week to make out the 10 game schedule that the players have to pick the winners of. The Plattsburgh-Middlebury game was one I put on the schedule (along with 4 other good matchups from the East region). About an hour ago I made my selection of that game and I chose Plattsburgh. Normally I choose them because I am a homer, but this year is our best chance to end our 6 year losing streak to the Panthers in, well, 6 years. I will be traveling over to Middlebury to watch that game with several friends and we are meeting a couple of NESCAC posters who are Middlebury fans, for a pregame round or two at a local sports bar. I wish the game was at Plattsburgh I'd feel a little more comfortable and I wish Middlebury hadn't lost their last game. The Panthers' coaching staff will have them primed I'm sure. But I like our chances and think we can hold our own. One thing I'm sure of...it will be a good game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: madzillagd on January 06, 2014, 04:26:35 PM
Midd has struggled with injuries this year and been very inconsistent in their play. Teams that have attacked them have been very successful, teams that sit back a bit haven't done as well.  Despite their size they are giving up 15 offensive boards a game and their bigs have just not been very aggressive - something they got consistently from Peter Lynch last year.  They've struggled to prevent guard penetration, especially against quicker teams like Stevenson and St. Mary's.  I'm sure Midd will come out a lot tougher at home after a loss at Salve but as a Williams fan I can't say I'd be said if they lost another one  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2014, 05:26:03 PM
Quote from: madzillagd on January 06, 2014, 04:26:35 PM
Midd has struggled with injuries this year and been very inconsistent in their play. Teams that have attacked them have been very successful, teams that sit back a bit haven't done as well.  Despite their size they are giving up 15 offensive boards a game and their bigs have just not been very aggressive - something they got consistently from Peter Lynch last year.  They've struggled to prevent guard penetration, especially against quicker teams like Stevenson and St. Mary's.  I'm sure Midd will come out a lot tougher at home after a loss at Salve but as a Williams fan I can't say I'd be said if they lost another one  ;)

madz,

I sure hope we can make you happy. ;D And I hope you're right on your analysis, which I agree with, after watching Middlebury play 4 times this year online, because the Cardinals will attack and their guards will penetrate. I'm pretty sure that we are quicker and I know Midd is bigger. We've been close to a win the past few years we're overdue for one, I hope. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 06, 2014, 07:55:41 PM
Now we can settle in on the YAC games. Bport over Geneseo by 5. My Eagles always create problems for the boys from Geneseo. Go Eagles!!! Congrats to Coach Spanny and Cortland!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2014, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 06, 2014, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on January 06, 2014, 04:07:53 PM
Maybe I'm being a NY homer but I would not be shocked at a Plattsburgh win tomorrow night. Middlebury's defense is very kind to opposing teams and Plattsburgh's backcourt could provide fits for them.

In the National Pick Em League which I belong to, it was my week to make out the 10 game schedule that the players have to pick the winners of. The Plattsburgh-Middlebury game was one I put on the schedule (along with 4 other good matchups from the East region). About an hour ago I made my selection of that game and I chose Plattsburgh. Normally I choose them because I am a homer, but this year is our best chance to end our 6 year losing streak to the Panthers in, well, 6 years. I will be traveling over to Middlebury to watch that game with several friends and we are meeting a couple of NESCAC posters who are Middlebury fans, for a pregame round or two at a local sports bar. I wish the game was at Plattsburgh I'd feel a little more comfortable and I wish Middlebury hadn't lost their last game. The Panthers' coaching staff will have them primed I'm sure. But I like our chances and think we can hold our own. One thing I'm sure of...it will be a good game.

Plattsburgh MUST win tomorrow night! Both the cards and Potsdam close out the SUNYAC non-conference schedule tomorrow night. I believe that Potsdam has what it takes to beat the Valiants (5-6) out of the MAC (Mid Atlantic conference) which is home to #20 ranked Messiah college. Ditto for the Cards who take on perennial NESCAC tourney rep, Middlebury. If we (the Cards), can beat Middlebury I believe that should be one of the tiebreakers when the end of the season comes up and there are 3 SUNYAC teams competing for NCAA post season berths versus 3 NESCAC teams. Not to mention giving our conference 1 of the best non-conference records that we have had in years. In fact that would put us at 44-26 (.628 win percentage). That's nearly 2 wins out of every 3 games vs. non-conference opponents.

The pressure is on... but I believe that both the Bears and Cards will prevail. No point prediction here...just win baby!!

oh yea, make no mistake about it....

The YAC is BACK   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
This weeks SUNYAC Player of the Week is..

Junior guard Shamoy McIntosh led the Plattsburgh State men's basketball team to a pair of wins at the Land of Magic Classic in Daytona Beach, Fla., in the final days of 2013. The Floral Park, N.Y., product averaged 18.5 points per game, and put in a game-high 22 in the Cardinals' 62-40 win over Wisconsin-Stout. The 40 points the Blue Devils were able to put up over the Cardinals were the fewest scored by a Plattsburgh State opponent since Green Mountain put in just 39 on December 10, 2005.

I can't believe that the Magic 1 didn't catch this  :) (or maybe he did ???  )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2014, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
This weeks SUNYAC Player of the Week is..

Junior guard Shamoy McIntosh led the Plattsburgh State men's basketball team to a pair of wins at the Land of Magic Classic in Daytona Beach, Fla., in the final days of 2013. The Floral Park, N.Y., product averaged 18.5 points per game, and put in a game-high 22 in the Cardinals' 62-40 win over Wisconsin-Stout. The 40 points the Blue Devils were able to put up over the Cardinals were the fewest scored by a Plattsburgh State opponent since Green Mountain put in just 39 on December 10, 2005.

I can't believe that the Magic 1 didn't catch this  :) (or maybe he did ???  )

I've been too busy posting on other boards, setting up my trip to Middlebury tomorrow, sending PM's to certain people in 3 different states and trying to finish up some work here at my store so I can watch the 2nd half of the National Championship game at home. (That ain't happening as I'm still here)

What that write-up about Shamoy McIntosh didn't state was that he had 15 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists against Millikin and held their 20 ppg leading scorer to 7 points, his lowest output of the year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 06, 2014, 10:52:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
This weeks SUNYAC Player of the Week is..

Junior guard Shamoy McIntosh led the Plattsburgh State men's basketball team to a pair of wins at the Land of Magic Classic in Daytona Beach, Fla., in the final days of 2013. The Floral Park, N.Y., product averaged 18.5 points per game, and put in a game-high 22 in the Cardinals' 62-40 win over Wisconsin-Stout. The 40 points the Blue Devils were able to put up over the Cardinals were the fewest scored by a Plattsburgh State opponent since Green Mountain put in just 39 on December 10, 2005.

I can't believe that the Magic 1 didn't catch this  :) (or maybe he did ???  )

I've been too busy posting on other boards, setting up my trip to Middlebury tomorrow, sending PM's to certain people in 3 different states and trying to finish up some work here at my store so I can watch the 2nd half of the National Championship game at home. (That ain't happening as I'm still here)

What that write-up about Shamoy McIntosh didn't state was that he had 15 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists against Millikin and held their 20 ppg leading scorer to 7 points, his lowest output of the year.

Don't know what happened to the rest of his write up Magic. Maybe they were waiting for some input from you before they decided on Shamoy? You may want to write those folks at SUNYAC? :) Congrats anyway to the Shamoy!! Hopefully he can duplicate that feat tomorrow.....score 22, get 6 boards, 3assists and hold #15 Joey Kizel (avg 18 pts per game) to 13 below his average!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2014, 11:15:49 PM
New Top 25 Poll came out around 7 PM.  Brockport got very little additional support since the last poll. They were #32 with 21 points. They are now #31 with 31 points.

Richard Stockton who was lower than Brockport in the last poll at #36 with 17 points has moved into the Top 25 at #23 with 75 points.

I thought that both of these schools deserved a spot in the 20th to 25th range in this week's poll.

No other East Region Team gets a single point.

Here's the link to the complete poll:

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/week5
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2014, 01:16:34 PM
Five games on tap in the SUNYAC today.

I'm leaving for Middlebury so no time for the usual pre game post just some quick picks today

Jan. 7 

Manhattanville      Potsdam State      7:00 PM

Will be happy if the Bears win this one . They did last year down there so maybe they can win at home this year. I can't pick them however. Valiants listed as a 5 point favorite I think they win 76-70.

 
   
Plattsburgh State      Middlebury      7:30 PM

Going with my Cardinals in a nail biter. The oddsmakers have moved the line and now the Cards are a slight 1 point favorite. I think the final will be 77-74 Cardinals on top.

 
   
Cortland State      New Paltz State      8:00 PM

Red Dragons look to make it 3 in a row. I think they do. Cortland listed as a 6 point favorite will win by a 72-68 score.

 
   
Brockport State      Geneseo State      8:00 PM

This will be another close contest that could go right down to the wire. Golden Eagles picked to win by 6 points but I think it will be closer than that. Brockport wins 84-81.   
   
Oswego State      Oneonta State      8:00 PM

Lakers will prevail in this game but Oneonta will give them a battle. Lakers favored by 6 and I see the final as Oswego winning 80-73. 
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2014, 08:26:40 PM
Wow.  Plattsburgh up at the half at middlebury 29-22.  Thanks to Ed correa who has 15 PTs all from 3 pt range (5-8). They have also outrébounded Middlebury by 2. The video from Middlebury is excellent btw!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
2 mins left and the Cards are up by 15.  Looks good for Plattsburgh and the YAC!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2014, 09:07:26 PM
Its a final. Plattsburgh wins 63-47. Id do a report but something tells me that the Magic "happy"man may want to bang out his own report when he returns from Vermont.  I expect a report around 3am!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2014, 09:49:18 PM
Yac goes 2-0 (Just like I expected), as Postdam beats Mahattanville 68-65! I'm gonna defer to thebear on the write up!

Damn good non conference season for the Yac!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 08, 2014, 09:34:29 AM
Great win for Plattsburgh!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 08, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Just posted in the E8 boards about the future come tournament time. I Honestly think the The top 6 in the SUNYAC is Plattsburgh, Brockport, Buffalo State, Oswego, Geneseo, Oneonta. I think this league has the POTENTIAL depending on the last month and half to be a 3 BID LEAGUE and definetly 2 bids. Honestly think Buff State, Oswego, Plattsburgh and Brockport are 4 of the best teams in the region. Maybe even put Geneseo in the discussion. I do think there is a chance the teams beat up on eachother to much in League play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2014, 03:43:00 PM
Plattsburgh State 63  Middlebury 47

Defense was the name of this game Tuesday night and the Cardinals had a little more of it than the Panthers. Usually when these two teams get together, points are a lot more plentiful, than they were last night in Pepin Gym. The 110 point total was the lowest output in recent memory, in a series that normally has scores in the 70's and 80's. The Cardinals' strong defensive effort not only kept Middlebury's offense in check, it held the Panthers to their lowest point total in almost 6 years. The last time they scored less points than Tuesday night was March 7th 2008 when they lost 56-43 to Rochester in an NCAA tournament game   

The Cardinals drew first blood when they opened up a 13-6 lead behind the hot hand of Eddie Correa, who, after missing his first three point attempt, proceeded to knock down three in a row, as he scored 9 straight points for Plattsburgh. After Middlebury's Joey Kizell scored to make it 14-10, the Cards' Ezra Hodgson hit a triple and then Correa hit his 4th one of the period to make it 20-12, Plattsburgh. The Panthers responded with a burst of their own led by Kizell and scored the next 8 points to knot the score at 20 apiece. Enter high flying Xavier Thomas for the Cardinals who got to the rim for back to back layups, followed by Correa's fifth three pointer and the Cards had built the lead back to 7 points. With 5:30 left in the half and the score 27-20, neither team would make a field goal for the remainder of the period as free throws would account for the final 5 points scored, leading up to the 29-23 break.

If you had told me that the top 2 point producers on the Cardinals roster, Shamoy McIntosh and Shavar Fields, would have a grand total of 2 points at the half I would have guessed that Plattsburgh would have been in a big hole. But Ed Correa's 15 points on 5 of 8 from long range accounted for more than half of the Cardinals' points and certainly had the crowd buzzing. McIntosh was hit with 2 early fouls and found a seat on the bench 4:30 into the game. Five minutes later, point guard Chris Manning picked up his 2nd foul and joined McIntosh for the remainder of the half. The X man, Thomas, had a great crowd pleasing block (if you were the Plattsburgh State crowd, comprised of the Cardinal Women's team and my group of 4) late in the period when Kizell stole the ball and flew down the court for a breakaway. Thomas raced down, positioned himself perfectly, flew high and swatted Kizel's shot away, but the referee chose to call a foul, stopping play. Coach Curle was visibly upset with the ref's decision to blow the whistle, making a comment that was something like, "this is what people come to see, a play like that and you just ruined it. Even the Middlebury faithful that were seated in front and back of us were amazed about that call.

The 2nd half opened with two baskets by the Panthers to close within two points. McIntosh would finally get on the scoreboard via two trips to the charity stripe from drives to the hoop, making 3 of 4. A rare Chris Manning 3 pointer, followed by a putback from McIntosh off an offensive rebound, and a jumper by Shavar Fields found the Cards with their first double digit lead, at 39-29 with 14:18 left to play. Still down by 10, at 41-31, the Panthers got scoring from 4 different players to claw back into contention with the next 8 points to make it 41-39 with just under 10 minutes left in the game. I don't think anyone expected to see what happened next as the Cardinals put this game away with a 17-2 run that made it 58-41 with 3 minutes remaining. Ezra Hodgson kick started the run with another 3 pointer, followed by a Shavar Fields layup and on the Cardinals' next possession McIntosh buried another 3.  From the 8:22 mark, when Midd's James Jensen scored to make it 44-41, the Panthers would miss their next 11 shots, commit 6 fouls, have 2 turnovers and go scoreless until Hunter Merryman hit a triple to cut the now, 17 point Cardinal lead back to 14 with 2:47 remaining. At that point  Coach Brown subbed in some of his players that don't get a lot of playing time and Coach Curle instructed his players to use the clock and only shoot when necessary. It was somehow fitting that as the clock wound down on Plattsburgh's final possession, Eddie Correa threw up a shot from downtown and it was nothing but net.

Correa led the Cardinals with 22 points, which is a new career high for him. The sophomore guard was 0x3 inside the arc, but hit 6 of 10 behind the arc. (Quit throwing up those bunnies Ed) He was 4x6 from the line. Shamoy McIntosh, after a scoreless 1st half, due to foul trouble, led everybody with 11 2nd half points. He also had 8 rebounds with 6 of those coming is the 2nd period. Shavar Fields scored 8 points, with 4 boards and played some solid defense on the Panthers pair of 6'8" big men. 6'3" senior John Perez played a great all around game with 11 rebounds  constantly fighting off the much taller Panther front line. He was the game's leading rebounder and scored 6 points, with 2 assists, 2 steals and also had a great block, that the refs missed the call on. (John, like Xavier, was whistled for a foul). Point guard Chris Manning, with limited minutes, had 6 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. Xavier Thomas added 4 points and 7 boards in 13 minutes on the floor with both his baskets coming after the Panthers had caught the Cardinals which prevented Middlebury from grabbing the lead and gaining momentum. Ezra Hodgson had a pair of 3 pointers with one in each half and no basket was bigger than his triple, with 9:04 left to play, after the Panthers had just closed the gap from 41-31, down to 41-39. That bomb restored a 2 possession advantage and was the impetus for the 17-2 run that broke this game wide open. Mike Mitchell gave us 17 valuable minutes running the point when Manning got into foul trouble and finished with 3 assists, And Alan Siergiej (I've almost got the spelling of his last name down after nearly 2 years, i before e, g before j) is doing just fine in his expanded role of giving our front line players some valuable minutes to catch a needed break.

The Cardinals outshot the Panthers from the field 37% (20x54) to 28.3% (17x60), and from behind the arc 47.6% (10x21) to 17.6% (3x17). The Panthers were 71.4% (10x14) from the line while Plattsburgh was 54.2% (13x24). Surprisingly with the height disadvantage the Cardinals outrebounded the Panthers 46-39 and had a slight edge on the offensive glass 9-8. Middlebury did win the turnover battle as they had 11, while the Cards committed 15. The Panthers were credited with 5 blocks and the Cards were credited with zero blocks, but the fans that saw this contest will certainly count the 2 by Thomas and Perez as clean blocks even though the stats don't. Plattsburgh had assists on 11 of their 20 field goals and the Panthers had 8 assists on their 17. Although the final score shows a 16 point margin of victory this game was in doubt right up until the 3:30 minute mark when the Cardinals lead grew to 14 at 55-41. That's when I knew that we had broken the streak and exorcised a few demons that were haunting me from those close losses in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2013.

Middlebury was led by their preseason 1st Team All-American Joey Kizell with 13 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals. James Jensen was next with 8 points and 5 rebounds, followed by a trio of players with 6 points. Hunter Merryman had 6 points with 7 boards, Jack Roberts had 6 points 6 rebounds along with 3 blocks and Matt Daley had 6 points with 5 rebounds.

Middlebury drops to 6-4 and will return to action this Friday when they open NESCAC conference play by hosting the Bates Bobcats at 8:00 PM followed by a Sunday game when the Tufts Jumbos visit Pepin Gym at 4:00 PM.

The Cardinals improve to 7-2 on the season, with a non-conference record of 6-1. They will put their 1-1 conference record on the line on Friday night when 6-1 Geneseo will come to town for a visit to Memorial Hall. The Blue Knights have yet to play a conference game this year.

Brockport State will follow Geneseo into town on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM. Brockport sports a 6-1 record as well and last night the Golden Eagles were scheduled to play their travel partners, Geneseo, but the heavy snowstorms sweeping through the western and central part of the state made a casualty of that game and it was postponed. Brockport will play their first conference game in Potsdam on Friday night when they take on the Bears. The Golden Eagles are ranked #31 in the D3hoops Top 25 Poll. The Massey Ratings have Brockport ranked at #9 in the country.

The Cardinals woke up this morning and discovered that after last night's  win over Middlebury the Massey Ratings have moved the Cards from 39th up to their highest placement of the season at #19 in the nation. Good stuff there!!! 8-) ;D     
                                       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2014, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 08, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Just posted in the E8 boards about the future come tournament time. I Honestly think the The top 6 in the SUNYAC is Plattsburgh, Brockport, Buffalo State, Oswego, Geneseo, Oneonta. I think this league has the POTENTIAL depending on the last month and half to be a 3 BID LEAGUE and definetly 2 bids. Honestly think Buff State, Oswego, Plattsburgh and Brockport are 4 of the best teams in the region. Maybe even put Geneseo in the discussion. I do think there is a chance the teams beat up on eachother to much in League play.

I like this Cahill fella!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 09, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 08, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Just posted in the E8 boards about the future come tournament time. I Honestly think the The top 6 in the SUNYAC is Plattsburgh, Brockport, Buffalo State, Oswego, Geneseo, Oneonta. I think this league has the POTENTIAL depending on the last month and half to be a 3 BID LEAGUE and definetly 2 bids. Honestly think Buff State, Oswego, Plattsburgh and Brockport are 4 of the best teams in the region. Maybe even put Geneseo in the discussion. I do think there is a chance the teams beat up on eachother to much in League play.

Way too early to tell but Plattsburgh, Brockport, Oswego and Buffalo St all have better resumes than any team in the E8 besides maybe Stevens. Best chance for the SUNYAC to get 3 bids is for those four to split their games amongst each other, go chalk the rest of the way in conference, and Stevens take home the E8 crown.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2014, 10:20:34 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on January 09, 2014, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 08, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Just posted in the E8 boards about the future come tournament time. I Honestly think the The top 6 in the SUNYAC is Plattsburgh, Brockport, Buffalo State, Oswego, Geneseo, Oneonta. I think this league has the POTENTIAL depending on the last month and half to be a 3 BID LEAGUE and definetly 2 bids. Honestly think Buff State, Oswego, Plattsburgh and Brockport are 4 of the best teams in the region. Maybe even put Geneseo in the discussion. I do think there is a chance the teams beat up on eachother to much in League play.

Way too early to tell but Plattsburgh, Brockport, Oswego and Buffalo St all have better resumes than any team in the E8 besides maybe Stevens. Best chance for the SUNYAC to get 3 bids is for those four to split their games amongst each other, go chalk the rest of the way in conference, and Stevens take home the E8 crown.

Hoops, I'm with u on about 90% of the postseason logic (although its so early it's really hard to get excited). Having said that... I strongly feel that the Yac is a 3 bid conference no matter what's happens in the E8. And i belieeve that Massey would tend to agree.

Within the Yac you have at least 5 teams who currently have a higher rating than Stevens. When you add strength of a schedule then the task is more daunting for the E8 to get any extra bids regardless of who earns thier conference bid.  Starting with Brockport who is rated #10 with a strength of a schedule rating of 63, then Plattsburgh who is rated 20 th and thier SOS at 32 ( and had wisc-Stout defeated #1 wisc - Stevens point last night instead of losing by 1 then their rating and strength of schedule may have gone into single digits), Buff State rated 59th SOS 44 and Geneseo rated 49 and SOS at 236 all out rate Stevens who is rated 92 SOS 176!

True the conference play will hurt those who are rated high but even the top tier Yac beating each other should not knock them too far down. I e if Plattsburgh defeats Brockport this weekend then they should move up a few not he's and Brockport down spaces, but nothing drastic good versus good should leave good standing. Hopefully in late feb the committee will also take into consideration the fact that the Yac went 42-26 in non conference play (62.9 win %). Thats a very good record , IMHO , not to mention a 3-0 record vs the #1 conference in the nation CCIW amongst other kudos

The Yac has more than held its own up til now. Now the process of weeding out the eak from the strong with our ranks will begin.  I have no doubt that when the smoke clears there will be multiethnic teams in the Yac that are worthy of postseason consideration. Many Yac teams could have scheduled cupcake after cucake. But they didn't and after the wars are over I'm hoping for the best in the YAC

Btw hoops ... do u plan on attending any games this weekend in the Yac?

You can see firsthand why folks say that the........

YAC is Back!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2014, 06:34:26 AM
Four games on tap for today. Nothing but conference games left to play for everyone. Geneseo and Brockport will get their first taste of conference action this weekend due to the postponement of their Tuesday night encounter that was supposed to take place at Geneseo.
That game has been rescheduled for Tuesday, Feb. 11th.

The SUNYAC finished with a non-conference record of 44-26 for a winning percentage of .629 which is the 7th best conference record in the nation. The Massey Ratings has the YAC in 11th place out of 45 conferences. The NCAA will recognize our non-conference record as 40-26 as 4 of our wins were against non-D3 teams. That's still a healthy .606 winning percentage.

Plattsburgh, Oswego. Brockport and Geneseo were all 6-1 in non-conference play, with Plattsburgh playing the toughest schedule.  Plattsburgh had wins against the #1 (CCIW), #3 (WIAC), and #7 (NESCAC) ranked conferences.

Buffalo State was 4-3 in non-conference play but they had 2 of their wins against the top ranked CCIW and ended up with the 2nd toughest schedule among YAC teams.

Brockport had a nice run at the Wendy's tournament, plus has wins over Hamilton, SLU and Medaille. They had the 3rd strongest OOC schedule.

Cortland ended up 5-2 in conference play with a nice pair of wins at the end to help offset the 2 Utica games they should have won.

Geneseo had a nice west coast win and a victory over Hobart to help offset the loss to St. John Fisher.

Oneonta helped with the opening win over Rochester from the #2 ranked UAA conference. The win over Fisher and the road win down south were also a plus for the YAC.

Oswego was 6-1 but the bad news is they played a really soft schedule. Only Fredonia had a weaker non-con slate than Oswego. If they were to get upset by one of the weak teams they play it would really hurt the entire conference. Their strength of schedule is #303, compared to #32 for Plattsburgh, #44 for Buffalo State, and #63 for Brockport. That's why Massey now has  Geneseo and Buffalo State with worse records ranked ahead of Oswego (who is still showing an 8-1 record instead of their actual 8-2 log). When he factors in the Lakers' loss to Oneonta they will fall a little further down in the ratings.

New Paltz started out well with 2 wins over SCIAC teams out in California. That helped us, as did the win over Hamilton. Potsdam had 2 wins but their 1st one doesn't count. The last one did though the win over Manhattanville, and it helped. Fredonia has 3 wins but only 2 count (barely). The  two that count were against Union (3-5) and D'Youville 0-12).

So there you have the wrap up of the non-conference portion of our schedule. Hopefully we can take it easy on each other in conference play and somehow wrangle 3 bids for the dance this year. That would be  8-)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Jan. 10 

Geneseo State      Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM   
   
   
Fredonia State      Oswego State      8:00 PM 
   
   
Buffalo State      Cortland State      8:00 PM   
   
 
Brockport State      Potsdam State      8:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
No predictions????  Or are you just making us wait? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2014, 11:32:54 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
No predictions????  Or are you just making us wait? ;)

Have to do some work for a change. Don't I do enough for you  ???


Predictions will follow at some point in the next hour or two. Just hold your horses.

By the way I'm still waiting for that phone call from Wed. night. You know the old "I'll call you right back line you always give me" :o

Edit 2:50 PM:    And now you've gone and done again. "I'll call you right back magic, I forgot something at home." I still waiting! ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2014, 04:44:47 PM
Massey Ratings Updates today:

The movement up or down is since I last posted the Rankings back on December 31st.

Brockport State is now ranked #10 in the country up 3 spots

Plattsburgh is now ranked #18 in the country up 21 spots       If Brockport or Plattsburgh go 2-0 this weekend they have a good chance
                                                                                          to crack the D3hoops Top 25 next Monday.

Geneseo is ranked #49 up 4 spots

Buffalo State is ranked #59  up 18 spots

Oswego is now #106   down  45 spots                                   The loss to Oneonta and the poor SOS has dragged them down.

Cortland is ranked #114 up 9 spots                                       Rebounding after falling all the way down to #140 at one point.
                                                                                          The DC wins helped them quite a bit

Oneonta is ranked #180 down 31 spots                                 They were on a a 3 game winning streak but lost the game in Carolina
                                                                                           to a  3-9 team they should have beat.

New Paltz is ranked #228  up 31 spots                                  The win over Hamilton helped and the tough loss to Cortland didn't hurt.

Potsdam is ranked #347  up 13 spots                                     Finally a 2nd win this one over Manhattanville, a team that counts.

Fredonia is ranked #362 down 1 spot                                     Well, someone has to be on the bottom. Blue Devils probably won't go   
                                                                                            much higher than this all year.



Here's how Massey has a few other East Region teams ranked. The SUNYAC is still head and shoulders above the other NY conferences at this point with 4 teams in the Top 60.


NYU           #45         Violets overrated. 9-1 record and have only played 1 above average team, Stevens, and they lost to them

Skidmore   #64          Thoroughbreds could be the class of the Liberty League. I'd have them, Stevens, and Hobart ahead of NYU

Vassar      #81          Much improved. Still not convinced they are better than Hobart. Big game tonight at Skidmore will tell a lot.

Hobart     #86            Much better SOS which is #80 than Vassar at #291. They also play Skidmore this weekend on Sat. Huge       
                                weekend in the LL. Think the League champs will be Skidmore or Hobart with Vassar 3rd.

Strevens #89            Highest ranked Empire 8 team.  Ducks early conference leaders, but this weekend will be telling. Big games
                                tonight against Nazareth, tomorrow against Fisher. Will sort thimgs out a bit...or muddle them up.

Nazareth  #96           Don't think the Golden Flyers will be this high after the loss to Alfred gets factored into their record. A win tonight
                                against the Ducks and tomorrow against Hartwick could offset the upset by the Saxons though.

St John Fisher   #104    The Cardinals are higher than I think they should be. I don't think they are as good as Oswego State and if 
                                   Chaz Lott is out for any length of time they will struggle. Big weekend with games against Hartwick tonight 
                                    then Stevens tomorrow.

Rochester  #125         Yellowjackets not used to such lowly depths. Will need to step it up in conference play, not sure if they can, but
                                   maybe, as the UAA doesn't appear to be as strong as usual.

Clarkson  #152           Golden Knights will a weak schedule (2 wins against Canton... what!! one game against them wasn't enough?)
                                 Will duke it out with several others for the 4th seed in the LL.

Hartwick  #155           Lost to the above Golden Knights but this team has a lot of tough losses. Their 5 losses have been by a total of
                                  20 points. Still haven't beaten anyone with a winning record. They should make the E8 playoffs...and then who
                                  knows what can happen. Huge weekend for them as well.

Hilbert    #200            Here because they may win their conference. Have already lost to Medaille and is 1 of 5 teams tied atop the
                                  AMCC conference with a 3-1 record. Best wins....Utica College, Alfred, and Keystone.

Medaille  #202             See above team. Best 4-7 team in the region. Also 3-1 in the AMCC.  0-4 in the SUNYAC but played everyone
                                  tough. (And they were all YAC teams that I think will make the playoffs)

If you don't see your team on this list then it doesn't matter, it's a rebuilding year. ;) But hey we all have to suffer through a few of those. My Cardinals were 8-18 two years ago, I still went to every home game (and a few on the road) and made just as many posts on this board and others. Last year (20-9) and hopefully this year were worth the suffering. 8-)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
Today's Games:     Time for some predictions:   
   
   
Fredonia State      Oswego State      8:00 PM

Not hard to pick this game. The total is what's tough. Oswego has won the last 6 games in this series and 10 of the last 12. The point spread favors the Lakers by 20 points and they should cover that and more.  I see this one ending up 88-62 Lakers.
   
   
Buffalo State      Cortland State      8:00 PM

The 2nd best game of the day has the Bengals heading into the Dragon's Den. Buffalo State has lost the last 3 games in this series but holds an 8-7 edge over the last 7 years. And they have beaten the Red Dragons in Cortland on several occasions during that span. Both teams are streaking...Bengals have won 4 in a row while Cortland has won 3 in a row. Point spread has the Bengals a slight road favorite of 1 point in this game. I think the Bengals have more scoring options than Cortland does. The Justin Mitchell vs Kevin McMahon and Rod Epps vs Lamard Herron matchups will make for some excellent viewing. They may be fairly even, but I think Chris Thompson and Brad Doyley might prove to be the difference makers for the Bengals. I'll take my chances with the visitors tonight and pick the Bengals to win this one 76-71.

Brockport State      Potsdam State      8:00 PM

Golden Eagles finally get their feet wet in the SUNYAC 10 days into the new year. They look like they've picked a good spot. The Bears are struggling mightily this year and the Boys from Brockport won't make it any easier. Port will press and the Bears, last time I looked, didn't handle a press very well. I see way too many turnovers by Potsdam to keep this game competitive. The Eagles are looking to move into the D3hoops Top 25 with a pair of wins this weekend and I think they will (If they get those 2 wins). Mr. Massey's computer thinks they're Top 10 right now. The point spread has the Eagles winning by 25. I hope the Bears can keep it closer, but unless Brockport has trouble putting the ball in the hoop this game could get ugly. I'm hoping they can't hit the proverbial broad side. I need the Bears to wear out the Golden Eagles so they will feel like my Cards will after they battle Geneseo tonight. The Eagles have won 5 in a row over the Bears but I remember a night  3 years ago on Jan 7th, 2011, when a much stronger Port team rolled into the Dam and got knocked off by a 74-60 score. I don't think that happens tonight, though, but Brockport will win by a score of 88-72.   


Geneseo State      Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM

The top rated game of the night as the 6-1 Blue Knights, ranked #49 by Massey, takes on the #18 ranked Cardinals with a 7-2 record. Geneseo also playing their inaugural SUNYAC game after the postponement of their game with Brockport on Tuesday night. Both teams also riding  hot streaks as they each have won their last four games. The teams split last year's contests with each winning at home. The Blue Knights have won 3 of the past 4 meetings but the Cardinals have an 8 to 6 edge over the last 7 seasons. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals an 8 point favorite. I think that's pretty close. I'll take the Cardinals by an 81-74 margin.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2014, 10:11:49 PM
Final Scores:

Plattsburgh State 97  Geneseo State 85

Brockport State 75  Potsdam State 57

Cortland State 102  Buffalo State 91

Oswego State 74  Fredonia 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
Congrats to the Red Dragons and Franelia on thier win today vs my beloved BENGALS.  Mama said it would be days like this... and she was right. Gave up over 100 points and 54 free throws. Can't win like that.  Must play defense and get to the line ( 12 free throws tonite)!

Feeling good about  tommorrow since its impossible to play worse than we did today! Must bounce back!!!!

I love my BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 11, 2014, 12:33:41 AM
Thanks bengalsrule, although I didn't contribute much to the 102 points (I scored 35 less than Kevin McMahon did).  ;)  Actually, I "scored" all of the points tonight for both teams (on the computer). Nice saying hi to you tonight, by the way.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2014, 12:45:24 AM
Quote from: franelia on January 11, 2014, 12:33:41 AM
Thanks bengalsrule, although I didn't contribute much to the 102 points (I scored 35 less than Kevin McMahon did).  ;)  Actually, I "scored" all of the points tonight for both teams (on the computer). Nice saying hi to you tonight, by the way.

Fran

Ditto here my friend.  And thanks for the extra courtesy you extended :).  All 6 of them ;).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 11, 2014, 07:26:03 AM
Congrats to my talented Eagles--winning in Potsdam is not an easy job. Get some rest and play your hearts out tomorrow----Put the finishing touches on McIntosh and the boys--Good Luck!!! By the way, on the golf course today!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2014, 02:54:18 PM
Plattsburgh 97 Geneseo 85

Great Division III basketball on display last night at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. Both teams played well, and gave the fans their money's worth. The final 12 point margin was not indicative of how close this game was throughout.

The first half was a tightly played affair that saw numerous lead changes throughout the first 12 minutes of play. The Cardinals down, 18-17, took the lead for good on a layup by Shavar Fields off a nice assist from Ezra Hodgson with 8:47 left in the half. Hodgson then increased the Cardinal advantage on their next possession as he buried one of his patented 3 pointers from the corner. Each time the Cardinals opened a little daylight however, Geneseo's  Gordon Lyons seemed to have a response. The Blue Knights interior play in the opening half was outstanding and led by Lyons, who had 18 first half points, and Connor Fedge, who came off the bench for the Knights with 12 points in the period, the Cardinals couldn't shake loose from the visitors. Up 30-27 with 4:50 left in the half, Fields hit a jumper and Shamoy McIntosh sank 2 free throws to give Plattsburgh its largest lead of the period at 34-27. Once again Lyons led the Knights resurgence with back to back inside moves. Then, after McIntosh responded with another 3 pointer for the Cards, Lyons and Fedge continued their assault in the paint to narrow the deficit once more, to 37-35. Fields made a nice move inside for the Cards to build the lead back to 4 points and after a Geneseo miss, the Cards had a chance to extend their lead. However a turnover gave the ball to the Knights and Lyons struck quickly to make it a 2 point, 39-37 halftime score. McIntosh led the Cards with 13 points at the break and Fields had 10.

The 2nd half started well for Plattsburgh as they scored the first 5 points on a McIntosh triple and a Chris Manning drive to once again equal the largest lead so far at 44-37. Geneseo wasn't buying it though and Thomas Decker, with his first points of the game, hit 2 from the line and then buried a 3 ball, bookending an inside move by the Cards' John Perez. Then Gordon Lyons sandwiched another Perez layup with a pair of buckets and the Blue Knights continued to hang with the Cards at 48-46 with 16:42 left to play. Perez and the Knights' Matt Curry traded short jumpers right before  Shamoy McIntosh took over Memorial Hall. The junior guard out of Floral Park N.Y. started with a 3 pointer, followed that with a different kind of three pointer, on a layup and one (from a steal and feed by Chris Manning), drained a jumper, and after another Manning theft, McIntosh buried another jumper. Ten unanswered points by Mcintosh that opened up the first double digit lead of the night. With 13:18 to go the score was 60-48 but Geneseo, behind Lyons and Devon Anderson cut the lead to 6 and McIntosh hit his 5th shot in a row from downtown to build the margin back to 9 points. Back came the Knights with 4 points from Lyons, all from the line. Like two boxers, delivering big punches back and forth, the battle continued and just like the first half every time the Cardinals opened up a sizeable margin the Knights would respond. Plattsburgh's Perez with a hoop and harm play with 9 minutes left to extend the lead back to 8. Geneseo countered with back to back 3 pointers from Connor Fedge and Jon Cohen. The Cardinals still clinging to a 2 point edge with 6:09 to play, then made the final push. Another Cardinal 3 pointer, this one from Ed Corea, followed by 2 more inside basket from Perez, along with another free throw by him gave the home team some breathing room. McIntosh capped off the run with another jumper at the 4:07 mark and the lead was back to double digits. Geneseo never got closer than 7 points from that point on. Blue Knights started the foul parade with 2 minutes left but the Cards only extended the lead as they hit 8 of 12 down the stretch.

Shamoy McIntosh with a new career high of 33 points (12x21 fg, 6x10 3's, 3x4 ft) to lead all scorers. Shamoy also had 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

John Perez put up another double double with 17 points (7x12 fg, 3x4 ft) and a game high 11 rebounds, 5 of them coming on the offensive end. John scored 15 of his points in the 2nd half as he was as unstoppable in the paint for Plattsburgh then, as Lyons was for Geneseo in the 1st half.

Mike Mitchell came off the bench and added 12 points, (3x5 fg, 1x3 3's, 5x6 ft). He also had 3 dimes and 2 boards.

Ed Correa had 11 points (3x8 fg, 3x8 3's. 2x2 ft) 2 rebounds 2 assists and a block.

Shavar Fields scored 10 points (5x12 fg) (never went to the line but should have on numerous occasions), had 7 rebounds and 2 assists.

Point guard Chris Manning with an outstanding all around effort had 6 points (2x3 fg, 1x1 3's, 1x2 ft), 9 assists, 5 steals and 2 rebounds. Some nice feeds to energize the crowd were on display from Manning.

Ezra Hodgson with 8 points (3x4 fg,1x2 3's, 1x2 ft), 2 boards and 2 assists in 16 minutes.

Cards shot 35x65 from the field (53.8%), 12x24 from 3 point range (50%) and 15x22 from the line (68.2%) They had 36 rebounds to 37 for the Knights, but only 12 turnovers to 15 for the Knights. Geneseo shot 17x35 from the field (47.9%), but only 6x23 from long distance ((26.1%) and that was a big reason the Cards won the game as they doubled up the Knights on made 3 pointers. Knights were 9x12 from the line (75%).  Free throws were basically even until the Knights started the foul parade near the end of the game. The 2nd game between these 2 teams in Geneseo will be another battle to look forward too, I'm sure. Hopefully with the same outcome. :)

Gordon Lyons was a beast on the floor for Geneseo. He had 18 in the 1st half and wasn't slowed much in the 2nd half to finish with 29 for the game (13x17 fg, 3x5 ft). He tied Perez for rebounding honors with 11 and I made a spot for him on the All Conference team at season's end (Probably the 1st team).

Connor Fedge  added 18 points for the Knights (7x11 fg, 1x1 3's, 3x3 ft). He also had 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Devon Anderson had 10 points, all in the 2nd half. (5x7fg) .

Thomas Decker added 6 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds, and a steal.

Geneseo loses for only the 2nd time this year and falls to 6-2 overall, 0-1 in the conference. They will travel to Potsdam this afternoon to take on the Bears at 4 PM

Plattsburgh improves to 8-2 and 2-1in the YAC. They have moved up in the Massey Rating to #17 in the nation. The toughest game of the year to date could be upcoming this afternoon at Memorial Hall as they face the Brockport Golden Eagles at 4 PM. The Eagles are ranked #12 in the Massey Ratings and #31 in D3hoops rankings. This could be a possible early showdown for 1st place in the YAC when the dust settles after today's action.   


         

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
Full slate of action today in the Conference.

Some quick picks as time is short.


Jan. 11 

Buffalo State      Oswego State      4:00 PM


I'm going with the Bengals and hope they don't burn me two days in a row. Point spread favors the home team by 2. I'll take the Bengals to win 86-82 
   
Oneonta State      New Paltz State      4:00 PM

Travel partners going at it. Spread favors the Hawks by 1 at home. I'm favoring the Red Dragons by 3 on the road  77-74 Oneonta

   
   
Geneseo State      Potsdam State      4:00 PM LS V A

After watching the Blue Knights last night there's no way I could pick the Bears today. Point spread with a big 15 point margin for the visitors. Brockport won by 18 last night, that seems reasonable today but I hope the Bears can spring the upset. Geneseo takes this one 85-70.


   
Fredonia State      Cortland State      4:00 PM LS V

Fredonia shouldn't find things any easier than they did last night against the Lakers. These Red Dragons though seem to play good against the good teams and not so good against the weaker teams. That's been the modus operandi in almost every game for Cortland. I don't think they lose this one though. Oddsmakers have them as a 20 point favorite. and they should cover that. I said should, but they won't, Cortland 78 Fredonia 63.

 
   
Brockport State      Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM

Featured game of the week as the two top ranked teams in the YAC clash for the first time this year. If past history is any indication (and it is) then this game will probably wind up as  classic nail biter. OT isn't out of the question either. Last year the Cardinals managed a rare sweep of the Eagles and both teams returned a lot of talent from those squads. I think that we can hold home court and the oddsmakers  have made the Cardinals a slight 2 point favorite. That's my choice as well and I see this one as a 80-76 Plattsburgh win.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2014, 08:33:32 PM
Magicman. I'm sorry we could not make your faith in us worthwhile.  15 turnovers in the first half after a total of 17 Friday night, and we come up with another loss. Give Oswego credit. They played hard from start to finish. Boy how a long for another non conference game however that's not the way the win the Yac.  Buff state just has to get back in the gm and continue  to work hard and I believe that everything will work but self out

Hey that's what happens when you play in a league as tough as this 1!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2014, 09:23:46 PM
No apology necessary Champ, I couldn't get a win from my Cards either and we had a 7 point lead with 4:30 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2014, 09:33:47 PM
Today's scores:

Brockport State 85     Plattsburgh 78       Golden Eagles in 1st place alone for the time being.


Cortland State 76      Fredonia 54           Red Dragons in 2nd place tie.

Oswego State 84      Buffalo State 69      Oswego is the team that Cortland is tied with

Geneseo State 86     Potsdam State 74    Blue Knights get their first win    This game in Potsdam but played at Clarkson's gym??

Oneonta 80             New Paltz 75            Oneonta holding down sole possession of 4th place at 3-1.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 12, 2014, 08:06:02 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 11, 2014, 09:33:47 PM


Geneseo State 86     Potsdam State 74    Blue Knights get their first win    This game in Potsdam but played at Clarkson's gym??
   

Roof Leak at Maxcy.  Game had to be moved and was delayed 1 hr.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 12, 2014, 08:06:02 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 11, 2014, 09:33:47 PM


Geneseo State 86     Potsdam State 74    Blue Knights get their first win    This game in Potsdam but played at Clarkson's gym??
   

Roof Leak at Maxcy.  Game had to be moved and was delayed 1 hr

Damn   I wish there was a roof leak at Max Ziel yesterday and they moved the game to.........next week!  :-\
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 12, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
I knew it was going to be a close game. The Bport boys are road warriors this year(8-1) with OT loss to strong SUNY Purchase squad. This is the year of the Eagle--They must keep the intensity, tempo up and pick each other up. It looks like they have alot of pieces pulling together. Congrats Eagles!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 12, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
Bport yet to even play a home game yet !!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2014, 11:09:45 PM
Brockport 85   Plattsburgh 78      Congratulation to the Eagles on a well played game. We hope to return the favor on Feb. 7th. ;)

The fans in Plattsburgh were treated to some great Basketball this weekend with the annual visits of Geneseo and Brockport. I was hoping for a weekend sweep and after we got by the Blue Knights only Brockport stood in the way of a 3-0 week that included a win over NESCAC foe, Middlebury. John Ivy and the Eagles put a slight crimp in my plans however, with a stirring comeback from a 7 point deficit late in the game.

The first half of the game was a typical slugfest with both teams grabbing 6 to 8 point leads and failing to hang onto them. Brockport, behind 6 quick points from Ivy got the early jump moving in front 14-6 and 16-9, but the Cardinals came charging back. Eddie Correa, who opened the game with a 3 pointer, hit back to back bombs that at first, tied the score at 16, and then gave the Cardinals the lead with 11:25 left in the half. Shamoy McIntosh hit three foul shots in two trips to the line and Corea dropped in another trey to boost the Cardinal lead to 25-18. Back came the Eagles as Brandon Caruthers drove the lane for a layup and Ivy followed with a pair of drives for 2 more buckets. A 3 pointer from Aaron White and a pair of free throws from Mike Gallagher once again evened the score at 29 each, with 5:30 remaining in the period. Alan Siergiej entered the game for Plattsburgh and scored their next 5 points on a pair of layups,with a free  throw to offset a 3 ball by Port's Bobby Bell. The Cards' Shavar Fields hit a jumper to extend the lead to 37-32 but Ivy once again brought the Eagles back with 6 points in the final 1:34, while Plattsburgh only managed a single frre throw from Fields and after 20 minutes the teams were deadlocked at 38.

The 2nd half found the teams trading baskets and featured 6 lead changes along with 4 ties in the first 6 minutes of action. Up 50-49 on 2 free throws from Ezra Hodgson, the Cardinals got another 3 pointer from Correa, an inside move by John Perez, a 2 pt jumper from Correa and a three pointer from Hodgson to open up a 7 point advantage at 60-53 with 11:18 to go. Ivy, Aaron White, and Caruthers all scored, the last on a 3 ball, to close the gap to 62-60. The Cards once again jumped in front on a jumper by Shavar Fields, a dunk by Xavier Thomas and another 3 pointer by Correa, his 7th of the game to make the score 69-62 with 8 minutes left. Eagles big man Patrick Coyle made 3 foul shots on consecutive possessions but Fields one upped him with back to back buckets for the Cards and the lead was 8 points, 73-65, with 6 minutes left. Caruthers nailed a triple and Shamoy McIntosh countered with a pair of free throws at the 4:47 mark to keep the 3 possession advantage for Plattsburgh. John Ivy took over and in 58 seconds he swished a jumper, drove in for a layup, (after a Matt Lee steal) and drained a 3 pointer and just like that the score was tied. It happened so quickly both the crowd and the Cardinals were stunned . I know I was, as I turned to the dean of sportwriters from my area, who was sitting next to me, and said, that Bob, is why he's a preseason All-American.

The Cardinals regained the lead on another inside move by John Perez. Then after the teams exchanged turnovers, they both had field goal attempts that missed, which resulted in a foul on Fields that sent Clifton Lyerly to the line. The next two plays dictated the outcome of the game more than any other. Lyerly made the 1st free throw but missed the 2nd one, however Patrick Coyle put his 6'11" frame to good use and tipped the missed free throw back in to give the Eagles a 78-77 lead. Plattsburgh, needing a score to slow down the Eagles momentum, instead had a turnover that resulted in a dunk by Lyerly. All Plattsburgh could manage in the 2 minutes that were left was a single free throw from Perez. The Cardinals were still alive however when Ivy, uncharacteristically, missed a free throw with 1:13 left in the game. That left it a single possession game at 81-78 and plenty of time to make something happen. The Cardinals missed a 3 point attempt with 1:05 to go and when Brockport got the rebound they opted not to foul, knowing they would get at least 1 more possession. McIntosh blocked Ivy's shot with 33 ticks left but Caruthers got the rebound, fired up a 3 pointer immediatly to avoid a shot clock violation, missed it and the ball went out of bounds off McIntosh. Cards were now left with no choice but to foul and Caruthers made them both. Plattsburgh missed another 3 point attempt and Ivy was fouled with 3 seconds left. he made them both for the final margin. Really though, the game was a 3 point difference until the final free throws.

John Ivy scored a season high 32 points, with 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. I've seen a number of preseason All-Americans play this year both in person and through webcasts. Ivy was chosen as a Third Teamer, but they made a slight mistake, he should be on the First Team. He's better than anyone I've seen so far and several of them were on the First Team.

Brandon Caruthers was the only other Eagle in double figues with 21 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals. Patrick Coyle had 9 points and 9 rebounds while Aaron White added 8 points.

Brockport had a slight edge in rebounding 39-37 and only had 10 turnovers to 19 for Plattsburgh. That last stat was a key reason that the Eagles walked out of Memorial Hall with the W. (Well that and John Ivy)

Free throws were also a big factor in the contest. Brockport went to the line often and didn't miss very many. At one point they were 17 of 18 and ended up 26x31 (83.9%). Plattsburgh was only at the line for 19 attempts and made 12 (63.2%). The Cards did outshoot the Eagles from the field, 28x60 (46.7%) to 26x62 (41.9%) for Brockport and from downtown, 10x22 (45.5%) for Plattsburgh to 7x24 (29.2%) for Port.

Plattsburgh was led by a new career high from sophomore Eddie Correa with 23 points, 21 of them on 7 long balls. Ed also had 2 rebounds 2 assists and a steal.

Shavar Fields had 15 points and just missed a double double with 9 rebounds.  John Perez also just a point shy of another double double, as he had 9 points and was the game's leading rebounder with  11 boards. John added 3 assists and 2 steals. Shamoy McIntosh had 12 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks. Ezra Hodgson, again with a solid game off the bench with 10 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists. Alan Siergiej with only 4 minutes of floor time had 5 points and a rebound.

Brockport takes over first place in the conference and is the only team without a loss in the YAC. They improve their record to 8-1 overall and I think, deserve a place in the D3hoops top 25. Mr. Massey also thinks they should be ranked and not just in the Top 25.  The Massey Ratings now have them ranked at #7 in the country with a strength of schedule ranked at #51. They just beat a Plattsburgh team that prior to Saturday's game, Massey had ranked #18 with a SOS of #20. With a 8-1 record, all on the road and their only loss a double OT affair at D3hoops #18 SUNY-Purchase (10-0), I believe it's time the voters of this website stopped looking at teams with 3 or 4 losses and give the Golden Eagles their place in the rankings. The SUNYAC has done very well this year with the non-conference portion of their schedule and the top teams in our conference have shown they can play with anybody.

The Eagles will return to the friendly confines of Tuttle North for the first time since (gulp!!) last February 16th 2013, (that's a heluva long time between home games ???...glad their schedule maker doesn't make out my Cardinals' schedule ;D) when they host Fredonia State on Tuesday January 14th at 8 PM

Plattsburgh falls to 8-3 overall, 2-2 in the conference.  The Cardinals are still ranked #25 in Massey's Ratings and will hope to improve on that figure as they are off until this weekend when they travel south to face New Paltz on Friday at 8 PM, then Oneonta on Saturday at 4 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2014, 07:00:42 AM
Pretty sure Kevin McMahon who led Cortland to a 3-0 week and scored his 1000th point on Saturday night against Fredonia will be the SUNYAC Player of the Week when they make the announcement today or tomorrow.

Kevin, with a monster game against Buffalo State on Friday, had 35 points and 11 rebounds. He also added 4 assists and 3 steals. For the 3 game week Kevin had 63 points and 31 rebounds with 8 assists, 6 steals and a block. He shot 20x38 from the field (52.6%) 1x3 from long distance (33.3%) and 20x28 from the line (71.4%).

He's been an important part of the Red Dragons since his freshman season when he started 10 of the 20 games he played in. To date he has now started in 63 of the 90 games he's been a part of and has started every game since the beginning of last season. He has not only scored 1003 points but has amassed almost 600 rebounds (588 to be exact) and will surpass that milestone in the next game or two.


John Ivy would have to be 1st runnerup for POTW. His 32 point, 8 rebound game on Saturday against Plattsburgh along with his 26 point output on Friday at Potsdam normally would merit the weekly honor. Doing it in a week that McMahon reached such an important milestone will probably mean he will have to do it again another week. I fully well expect him to do so, just not against my Cardinals if you don't mind.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 06:10:48 AM
A new D3hoops Top 25 poll was released early Tuesday morning and once again there is no East Region team in the Top 25. Brockport State, the most likely candidate and holding down a Top Ten ranking from Ken Massey's computer ratings (where they are ranked #7 in the nation) comes up short again as they pick up a measly 9 extra votes from last week. The total of 40 points for the Golden Eagles moved them from the 31st position into the 28th position. I emailed Coach Dunne on Monday afternoon to say that I didn't think it would happen this week but if they went 3-0 in their games tonight and over the weekend, that they would probably crack the top 25 next week. The voters continue to put teams with 3 and 4 losses who have been in and out of the top 25 ahead of Brockport. I have the Eagles at #8 in my poll.

NYU returned to the Others Receiving Votes category with 10 points and the #37 spot. Several voters had Oswego in 25th place or 1 voter had them in 24th place as the Lakers get a mention with 2 points.  No other East Region team was the recipient of any votes.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 06:20:18 AM
As expected the SUNYAC's latest entrant into the 1000 point club, Kevin McMahon has been selected as  the SUNYAC's Player of the Week. We gave Kevin plenty of ink yesterday so here's the quote from the YAC website.

"McMahon averaged 21 points, 10.3 rebounds, 2.7 assists and two steals per game during a 3-0 week for the Red Dragons. He scored a career-high 35 points, grabbed 11 rebounds and dished out four assists in a 102-91 win over Buffalo State Friday. On Saturday, he reached the career 1,000-point plateau during a 15-point, 11-rebound effort in a 76-54 win versus Fredonia."


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2014, 10:06:42 AM
Congrats to Kevin. A well deserved honor!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2014, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 14, 2014, 06:10:48 AM
A new D3hoops Top 25 poll was released early Tuesday morning and once again there is no East Region team in the Top 25. Brockport State, the most likely candidate and holding down a Top Ten ranking from Ken Massey's computer ratings (where they are ranked #7 in the nation) comes up short again as they pick up a measly 9 extra votes from last week. The total of 40 points for the Golden Eagles moved them from the 31st position into the 28th position. I emailed Coach Dunne on Monday afternoon to say that I didn't think it would happen this week but if they went 3-0 in their games tonight and over the weekend, that they would probably crack the top 25 next week. The voters continue to put teams with 3 and 4 losses who have been in and out of the top 25 ahead of Brockport. I have the Eagles at #8 in my poll.

NYU returned to the Others Receiving Votes category with 10 points and the #37 spot. Several voters had Oswego in 25th place or 1 voter had them in 24th place as the Lakers get a mention with 2 points.  No other East Region team was the recipient of any votes.   

When reading your posts last week I looked at Brockport and while they don't have any bad losses, I wasn't sure which of their wins would make them worthy of consideration.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bear Fan on January 14, 2014, 12:51:29 PM
I guess that, based on Pat's rationale of not having any/many wins worthy of consideration, we should get used to not seeing Brockport getting much recognition as only NYU and Oswego seem to be in the worthy category in the East.  I know Magic will provide a more rational argument on this but it just seems strange to me, as I have been quietly lurking for a while, how the Yac is winning games out of conference and building up the strength of schedule and even showing great strides in Massey but still not cracking the rankings.  No disrespect meant with this question Pat as I would like an appraisal of how the SUNYAC can go about becoming more worthy on the national scene?  I admit I do not understand the politics of this and would like to know and, who knows, it might spark further discourse. 

As an aside, Brockport was fun to watch and I think this team rivals other Port teams that have gone far in past tournaments!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 14, 2014, 02:35:34 PM
I agree with Bear. How can the SUNYAC do so well out of conference and still get no respect from the East, unless it is a good win; which includes only NYU and Oswego(I guess). It doesn't make much sense to me but would be nice to have an explanation. Thanks--Keep winning Bport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 14, 2014, 04:16:46 PM
Any win away from home is a good win and Brockport has more of those than anyone. I would also consider there win at Plattsburgh a very good win. Has any team in the top 25 not played a home game yet ? Doubt it !!  Plattburgh would probably beat a third of the top 25 in Plattsburgh !! Sunyac is a very good conference this year!! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2014, 05:05:30 PM
Coaching cliches aside, yeah, lost of wins away from home, but it's not like they're winning at any Top 25 teams. They lost to the only Top 25 team they played.

Yes, considering most of the Top 25 would have to get in a plane and then on a bus to get to Plattsburgh, I suspect some of them might indeed lose there. Not really a relevant measure. True road games: at St. Lawrence (4-6), Medaille (5-8), Potsdam (2-9) and one impressive win at Plattsburgh which is probably why they have 40 points in the first place. And if voters knew more about who Roberts Wesleyan was, maybe that would help, too. But it's not like they're completely being ignored -- 28th out of 400 teams is a pretty high number.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 08:25:00 PM
Forgot there were games on tap tonight as I've been busy writing another post

Time for some quick picks


New Paltz State   at  Oswego State   8:00 PM

Lakers will win this one 74-65


Buffalo State at   Geneseo State  8:00 PM

Scared of the Bengals on the road. Hope I'm wrong but I think the Knights take this one 89-85



Oneonta State  at  Cortland State    8:00 PM

Red Dragons vs Red Dragons Hmmm I'll take the home variety. Cortland in a close one 73-70


Fredonia State  at  Brockport State   8:00 PM

Brockport wins big 90-60








Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 08:55:51 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2014, 05:05:30 PM
Coaching cliches aside, yeah, lots of wins away from home, but it's not like they're winning at any Top 25 teams. They lost to the only Top 25 team they played.

Yes, considering most of the Top 25 would have to get in a plane and then on a bus to get to Plattsburgh, I suspect some of them might indeed lose there. Not really a relevant measure. True road games: at St. Lawrence (4-6), Medaille (5-8), Potsdam (2-9) and one impressive win at Plattsburgh which is probably why they have 40 points in the first place. And if voters knew more about who Roberts Wesleyan was, maybe that would help, too. But it's not like they're completely being ignored -- 28th out of 400 teams is a pretty high number.

Pat,
I understand where you're coming from and I'm glad you feel the win at Plattsburgh was impressive because it was. And yes, Brockport doesn't have any wins against a Top 25 team. However, it's not like we can play several teams in our conference that are consistently ranked in the Top 25 like the CCIW, WIAC UAA, ODAC, and NESCAC teams can do. Every year those conferences or most of them have multiple teams in the Top 25. That makes it quite easy to play a ranked team at least twice a year if only one team is ranked but in these conferences with 3 or even 4 teams ranked you can play a host of games against Top 25 teams. Just this year for instance in week #1, which was several weeks after the preseason poll came out, the CCIW had 4 teams ranked and the NESCAC had 3 teams. I realize conference play hadn't started at that point but still these teams get national recognition that continues to carry over among the voters and now 6 weeks later when the teams are in the thick of conference play, the CCIW still has 3 teams in the Top 25 and so does the NESCAC. Easy to face Top 25 teams when you have 3 in your backyard.

Let's look at this from the standpoint of 2 teams. Brockport State and Bowdoin. The SUNYAC team is 8-1 and hasn't played a home game yet. 5 road games and 4 on a neutral court. Resume strong points for the Golden Eagles... a double overtime loss at #17 SUNY-Purchase (only the 2nd game of the season for Port, the 5th game for Purchase). A win at then 8-2 Plattsburgh ranked fairly high by Massey (#18) but unranked, along with every team in the East region in the D3hoops poll. Massey ranks Brockport at #7 in the country with a SOS that is the 45th toughest schedule in all of D3. 5 of Brockport's 9 games were against teams with winning records.

Bowdoin from the NESCAC conference is 12-0. The Polar Bears have been a pleasant surprise in the NESCAC and, for the time being, have supplanted Middlebury in the top 3 of that conference. They have 7 home wins, 4 road  wins, and 1 on a neutral court. Resume strong points... 66-54  home win over a Babson team that was 4-0 at the time. Babson wasn't ranked at the time and isn't ranked now but their brief inclusion in the Top 25 helps Bowdoin's image. None of the other 11 games they have played give any indication that they merit inclusion into the Top 25 any more than Brockport, but yet, they are there and have moved up from their previous postion by beating 3 mediocre teams in the past week. Of Bowdoins 12 wins, only 5 have come against teams with a winning record. Massey ranks Bowdoin at #18 with a SOS of #251, quite a bit easier that Brockport's.


So Bowdoin still hasn't beaten a team in the Top 25 just like Brockport, but they did beat a team, on their home court, that later was in the Top 25, briefly. Brockport lost to a Top 25 team on the road in double OT, and that result makes me think that if SUNY Purchase traveled up to Brockport, that Port would probably win that game by 6 to 10 points. The lack of a home and home with Purchase prevents that of course. And with no team in the SUNYAC ranked, they won't face another Top 25 opponent for the rest of the year. Sounds like Catch 22. Unranked because you don't have a Top 25 win. Can't get a Top 25 win because it's impossible to play anyone in the Top 25.

Bowdoin, playing in a conference with 3 ranked schools, has several chances to play Top 25 teams. The first chance will be their very next game as they travel to Williams on Jan. 17th and  then Amherst a bit later on. The other conferences I mentioned with multiple ranked teams have it even better than a team like Bowdoin, as those conferences play double round robins and face the ranked teams twice. An unranked team like North Central or Carthage in the CCIW, can and probably will, play a game against 6 Top 25 teams and if they have a nice run make it into the rankings even with 4 losses this early.

I guess I'm a bit of a believer of the, spread the wealth philosophy. I'd rather see some teams that rarely get mentioned but are having that one nice season that comes around every so often, get their moment in the sun. It normally doesn't take long to weed out those teams that are undeserving.  I understand where the voters are coming from with the same teams in the polls year after year, but when some of those teams falter a bit, and don't appear as strong as usual then give someone else with a decent resume a shot.

I also in no way was attempting to belittle Bowdoin. They just happened to be a team that fit the bill for the comparison I wanted to make. Do I think they belong in the Top 25?   Absolutely! In fact in my Posters' Poll, that I turned in to the Head Pollster, before the new Top 25 D3 poll came out, I had Bowdoin ranked in 19th place. The same position as the D3 poll.

The difference was I had Brockport ranked as well and I put them a spot below where Mr. Massey has them, in the 8th position.

As I stated last week and as Bear Fan and scooterman posted today the SUNYAC has done very well out of conference this year. Our record in the non-con portion of our schedule, which is complete,  is 44-26 (.629) and includes a winning record over all the power conferences we played. Only 6 other conferences in D3 have a higher winning percentage than we do and our SOS was rated as the 16th best out of the 40+ conferences.

bports posted that Plattsburgh would probably beat a third of the Top 25 in Plattsburgh. I have to disagreee with him. I think we'd beat at least half of the Top 25 in Plattsburgh.

A coach I know mentioned to me today that our non-con schedule not only was very good this year but that of our 70 OOC games we had to play 47 of them on the road. That was a stat that I wasn't aware of as I had never looked it up. He further brought up the fact that there probably wasn't a conference in the country that had that disparity along with a winning percentage as high as ours. Teams in our conference struggle to get teams to come to our gyms. Everyone wants us to come to their tournament but when we ask them to reciprocate they won't do it. One coach has told me no one wants to come to his house and he can almost never have more home games than road games. Another coach pointed out that Rochester had 18 home games last year and that was more than he gets in 2 years.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Halftime scores in the YAC

Geneseo 40 Buffalo State 34
Gordon Lyons with 16, Devon Anderson with 8 and Connor Fedge with 6 for the Knights.
Jordan Glover with 13 and Justin Mitchell with 10 for the Bengals. No Rod Epps for Buffalo State in the first half?



Brockport 49 Fredonia 13
John Ivy with a ton,,, Fredonia with none.... to speak of



New Paltz 31 Oswego 28
Taylor Sowah and Nick Taldi leading the Hawks.  Kyle Covley and Rashawn Powell top the Lakers.



Cortland  33 Oneonta 32
Kevin McMahon high for Cortland's Dragons and Mikey McElroy leading the Oneonta variety
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 09:20:04 PM
Some interesting finishes coming up.

Cortland and Oswego both trailing at home
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 09:26:58 PM
Crunch time at Cortland

65-65

37 seconds left Cortland with the ball coming out of a time out.

Home Red Dragons turn it over with 18 seconds to go and Oneonta misses a 3 pointer at the buzzer by Dan Lee.

Bonus Basketball in Cortland coming up
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 09:30:52 PM
Oneonta in 3 possessions has two 3 pointers.

Cortland has yet to score and down 71-65.

Cortland is going to lose to the invading Red dragons from Oneonta  as they trail 73-66 with 55 seconds to go. That's a big upset.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 09:42:12 PM
Brockport doubles up Fredonia by a 97-47 score.

John Ivy with 23 for Port to lead the way, and he's the leading rebounder as well with 11 boards. John only played 17 minutes in this game as Coach Dunne emptied his bench early on. 13 players scored and all 17 got into the game.

Bobby Bell with 12 and Clifton Lyerly with 10 also with double figures for the Eagles.

Markus Williams had 11 points to lead Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
Oneonta 78 Cortland 70 in OT

Cortland having problems in extra sesssions this year as they once again lose in OT.

Mikey McElroy was the big gun for Oneonta tonight as he finished with 19 points. McElroy was 4x5 from downtown, had 6 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.
Jackson Zivic was next with 17 points. Jack Dignan scored 15 points had 6 rebounds, a team high 5 assists and a steal. Dan Lee with 14 points, 5 boards, 4 assists and a steal.

Oneonta hit 15 3 pointers tonight in 31 attempts. They were outrebounded 43-38... had more turnovers 12 to Cortland
's 8 but the difference in long range shooting was probably the determining factor in this game. The visitors had 6 more bombs than Cortland did.

Cortland was led by reigning POTW Kevin McMahon with 24 points and 11 boards.  McMahon also added 3 blocks 2 steals and 1 assist. Garen Spendjian had 14 points and 6 rebounds. Lamard herron had 12 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists, a block and a steal. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2014, 10:19:56 PM
But the non-conference schedule was "very good" by what standards? By SUNYAC standards? By East Region standards? Perhaps. Not really by Division III standards, right? Plattsburgh has played a very good schedule but you can't say that up and down the conference. If you like Massey so much, take a look at the schedule ranking for SUNYAC teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 10:22:34 PM
New Paltz upsets Oswego 83-75

The Hawks with the 2nd big upset of the night in the YAC

Nick Taldi with 24 points was 5x6 from 3 point range. Taylor Sowah with 18 points and 5 rebounds. Andrew Joseph with 7 assists, 6 points, 6 rebounds and 3 steals.RJ Rosa led the Hawks with 8 rebounds.

Brian Sortino was the leading scorer in the game as he had 31 points for the Lakers. Rashawn Powell had 14 points and 15 rebounds to claim honors in that stat. Kyle Covley added 11 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 11:28:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 14, 2014, 10:19:56 PM
But the non-conference schedule was "very good" by what standards? By SUNYAC standards? By East Region standards? Perhaps. Not really by Division III standards, right? Plattsburgh has played a very good schedule but you can't say that up and down the conference. If you like Massey so much, take a look at the schedule ranking for SUNYAC teams.

Pat,
I have taken a look at Massey for the schedule strength of all the teams in the East all year long and have updated them on this board a number of times. I've also looked at the schedule strength of every team ranked in the Top 25, and do this every week the rankings come out. I also look at the major conferences across the country. Having been a participant in the D3 National Pick Em League for a number of years gives me lots of reasons to check out lots of teams. I look at Massey every day, since it changes every day. I don't think his ratings are the be all, end all for D3 and  often disagree with a number of his placements. But it is a good tool and a welcome website to discover a wealth of information.

You mention... "not really by D3 standards". What are D3 standards? Top 3..Top5...Top 10? I think there are a lot of conferences that you can make the same claim about, Pat. I don't think the NESCAC has a better strength of schedule than the SUNYAC and neither does Massey. Take a look at the SOS for their teams. Many of them are much worse than the YAC teams. The thing is their SOS will get better because now they are playing conference games. The fact that they only play a single round robin allows them to schedule 15 non-conference games and most of them are against considerably weaker competition. By the time they start conference play, every team in the league has a winning record and usually 3 or 4 have 12-0 or 11-1 records, that help them with at large bids, come tournament time. And since they all have such a good non-conference, won-loss record, because of the weak teams they feast on, that becomes self serving for the entire conference, so their SOS can only go up.

I certainly don't think I'm telling you anything new concerning NESCAC, their single round robin schedule, or their SOS. It's been discussed quite frequently over the years. It just seems like they get a pass despite their non-conference SOS and yet other conferences are held to a higher standard.         

Massey has the SUNYAC ranked 13th out of all the D3 conferences. I think that's very good in relation to where we have been in other years. We were as high as #9 in previous weeks this season.

To be ranked in the top third of all the D3 conferences in the country is very good...as a conference. I'll take that.  Obviously their are good teams and bad teams in any conference especially one that has 10 teams but I will take the top 6 teams in the SUNYAC this year and put them against the top 6 teams in any other conference and know that we would be able to hold our own. 

We played over 66% of our non-conference games on the road. Let me know if you can find a conference ranked above us that had to do that.

Again Pat, I'm not claiming we're the CCIW or the WIAC, I know those conferences well and watch them play often online. I probably watch as many D3games as anyone in the country, but I think this year the SUNYAC has got a bunch of good teams and there are several that could do well come dance time.

Most of the people I've talked to seem to feel that the SUNYAC is the strongest conference in the East Region this year. I'd just like to see the strongest team in the East, which at the present time is Brockport, represent our region in the Top 25. After all every other region in the country is represented in the Top 25....I don't think I'm asking for too much to have just 1 from our neck of the woods get in there. ??? ;D   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2014, 11:41:35 PM
Geneseo State 85 Buffalo State 68

Too much Gordon Lyons for the Bengals tonight as the Knights big man totals 28 points on 11x14 shooting from the field and 6x8  from the line. Lyons was not just the game's leading scorer but also captured rebounding honors with 9 boards. Connor Fedge and Matt Curry both has 14 points and Devon Anderson had 10 points and tied Lyons with 9 boards.

Buffalo State was led by 15 points from Justin Mitchell and 13 points from Jordan Glover.

Bengals were down 6 at the break but with the score 43-38 with a minute gone by in the 2nd half, the Knights used a 10 -0 run to go on top by 15 points and it only got worse from there for the Bengals. The lead grew to 21 and the Knights were never threatened the rest of the way settling for the 17 point win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 14, 2014, 11:53:34 PM
I see that the SUNYAC has a new commissioner.  One of the first tasks is to decide if he wants the conference to be a power conference in men's basketball.  The way the conference is currently set up, that will never happen because the schools play each other 18 out of 25 games.  No respect from those outside because in the end the schools at the top are even with anyone beating the other on any given evening.  Plus long bus rides from one end of the state of New York to the other.  Back when there were only 32 teams making the NCAA tournament the SUNYAC had at least 2 and sometimes 3 schools making the tournament because they has two divisions with a playoff between the top 2 schools in each division.  The east only played the west once.  It opened up non conference game and respect.  With the expanded tournament we should have at a minimum 4 schools making the dance each year.  Will never happen as long as we only play each other.  We need to expose how talented the state of New York is when it come to D3 basketball.  Also, we need to build the conference by added other SUNY schools  that are not currently part of our conference.  We have a SUNY school ranked 17 in the country playing in the Skyline Conference .  What would the strength of schedule be if a team ranked in the top 25 played there games with us?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 15, 2014, 08:50:42 AM
Interesting results in the SUNYAC last night. Makes a case for the depth of the conference being strong but makes you wonder if the league will be deserving of 3 bids like some have posted on here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 14, 2014, 11:28:04 PM
I certainly don't think I'm telling you anything new concerning NESCAC, their single round robin schedule, or their SOS. It's been discussed quite frequently over the years. It just seems like they get a pass despite their non-conference SOS and yet other conferences are held to a higher standard.         

Isn't it more likely that they get a pass because they show up in March year after year? After a decade or so it's fair for a voter to believe that the best NESCAC team is going to show up in the Elite 8, if not the Final Four.

Being the strongest conference of the three and a half in the region is not a particularly high standard. Similarly, the NJAC is the strongest conference of the three in the Atlantic, but that isn't an automatic pass to the Top 25 either.

Who are the strong non-East teams the SUNYAC has wins against this year?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 15, 2014, 01:58:19 PM
Impressed with New Paltz last night. They Competed hard every possession, and did what they needed to beat a VERY good team. Coach Rejniak has done a fabulous job at the helm of this New Paltz team! His enthusiasm and communication with his players was impressive. Look for them to beat teams this year. Little small ball action which gives many teams problems. Could hurt NP rebounding because of lack of size. The Lakers will bounce back
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2014, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: bearnation on January 14, 2014, 11:53:34 PM
I see that the SUNYAC has a new commissioner.  One of the first tasks is to decide if he wants the conference to be a power conference in men's basketball.  The way the conference is currently set up, that will never happen because the schools play each other 18 out of 25 games.  No respect from those outside because in the end the schools at the top are even with anyone beating the other on any given evening.  Plus long bus rides from one end of the state of New York to the other.  Back when there were only 32 teams making the NCAA tournament the SUNYAC had at least 2 and sometimes 3 schools making the tournament because they has two divisions with a playoff between the top 2 schools in each division.  The east only played the west once.  It opened up non conference game and respect.  With the expanded tournament we should have at a minimum 4 schools making the dance each year.  Will never happen as long as we only play each other.  We need to expose how talented the state of New York is when it come to D3 basketball.  Also, we need to build the conference by added other SUNY schools  that are not currently part of our conference.  We have a SUNY school ranked 17 in the country playing in the Skyline Conference .  What would the strength of schedule be if a team ranked in the top 25 played there games with us?

Don't know about a couple of those statements there Bear nation. While playing each other twice is a sure fire way to guarantee that 2 teams dont come out of confernce play undefeated, its not unique to the SUNYAC. In fact the top 8 confernces (I stopped checking after that) all play a round robin conference format. UAA (8 teams, 14 games and a non conference winning percentage of 71.6) is at the top of the list. There was 1 game ( I believe) between the Yac and UAA and the yac prevailed. There was a contest between the UAA #1 school Washington and carthage in which Carthage won. A yac school, on neutral turf, beat Carthage. Other conferences such as # 4 Ohio Ac, #5 MAC, #6 Capital and #8 North Coast also play 18 conference games. #2 2 CCIW (which the YAC went 3-0 against this year) plays 14 confernce games and #3 WIAC (which the YAC went 1-0 against) plays 16 games. Clearly the fact that they play everyone twice has not hurt their conference standings, nor some of the teams within thier conference. And yes there were certainly losses by YAC schools to some schools out side of the YAC but when I take the top 8 conferences, with their non conf. record, I am impressed by what I see. The Yac non conf. record of 62.9 % winning percentage was 6th amongest the top 17 conferences. Most YAC schools scheduled a tough non conference schedule and few had what anyone would call a "cupcake" schedule.

The respect is what it is, but I'd be curious come selection time, for arguments sake, Plattsburgh finishes 3rd in the YAC and Middlebury is 3rd in the NESCAC and there is 1 seat left. Who gets that seat? Middlebury who lost at home to Plattsburgh? If so then thats BS! Hypothetical? Yes. Fair? No!

Im glad this topic came up (thanks magic) because its takes my thoughts off of last nights loss to Geneseo >:(.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 02:48:37 PM
Playing twice is not unusual, but playing twice in a 10-team conference does indeed leave just seven non-conference games and not a lot of opportunities to play teams. For Brockport and Geneseo, committed to the Wendy's Classic, that's just four.

Beating Rochester isn't entirely unique this year -- six teams have done it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 15, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
Magicman.....on your board to talk a little about your school's next opponent....New Paltz.  However you seem on top of the "rise" of SUNY-NP recently.  Put them on the radar when they beat Hamilton in Clinton for the first time.  Impressive in that both Williams and Amherst had trouble last season in Clinton.  Coach Hixon has say several times that he doesn't know how Amherst came out of Clinton last season with a victory.  Hamilton came to Amherst for their next game last weekend...put up a good fight....Matt Hart is a player, an all conference player.  First team caliber except for Joey Kisel and Aaron Toomey, imo.
In reading the recap of the NP wins, I was reminded of their new coach.....an assist. coach at Amherst from 2007-2011.
Very good recruiter and like the Rochester's coach...also an former assist at Amherst.....a fine coach as well.
Expect your team to win...having said all that :)  Still interested in your opinion.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 15, 2014, 05:07:43 PM
Magic--Thanks for all your insights and facts. I sure hope it not only gets Brockport some recognition in the D3 polls, but all the YAC teams that work so hard to earn it. Every year should be different, but with the shape of the conferences it is difficult to change one's thinking. Keep up the informational posts. Go Eagles!!! Go SUNYAC!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2014, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 14, 2014, 11:28:04 PM
I certainly don't think I'm telling you anything new concerning NESCAC, their single round robin schedule, or their SOS. It's been discussed quite frequently over the years. It just seems like they get a pass despite their non-conference SOS and yet other conferences are held to a higher standard.         

Isn't it more likely that they get a pass because they show up in March year after year? After a decade or so it's fair for a voter to believe that the best NESCAC team is going to show up in the Elite 8, if not the Final Four.

Pat,

This discussion started with a reponse to your statement that Brockport didn't have any wins worthy of consideration. You had also stated, in a separate response to other posters, that Brockport wasn't winning against Top 25 teams. I tried to show that there are other teams in the Top 25 that don't have wins any better than Brockport's. I chose Bowdoin as an example and felt that the 2 teams were fairly close in what was on their resume. I feel that Brockport is every bit as deserving as Bowdoin to merit inclusion in the Top 25. I gave my reasons and believe them to be valid ones. You didn't disagree with my analysis.

You came back with a response to my post, which I admit, was quite long winded (a good defense requires a long explanation ;)), and you focused on one statement that I made...that I felt our non-conference record was "very good". You implied it wasn't very good by D3 standards. You also told me that, since I liked Massey so much, to look at Massey's SOS for SUNYAC teams.  Again I put forth my reasons why I felt the conference was very good, as well as my rebuttal to your statement that the SUNYAC teams didn't have a good SOS. Once more I used the NESCAC conference as a comparison and thought my facts were supportive of my position.

Your latest response to my last post, focused on my statement..."It just seems like they get a pass despite their non-conference SOS and yet other conferences are held to a higher standard."  You bring up this ... they likely get a pass because their best team, year after year, ends up in the Elite 8 or Final Four. I wasn't talking about the best team in NESCAC and the NCAA tournament. I started this discussion comparing Bowdoin with Brockport and why I thought their resumes were similar.  Bowdoin is getting the pass into the Top 25, since they seem to be lacking the same credentials, that you point out, are keeping Brockport from a Top 25 ranking.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Being the strongest conference of the three and a half in the region is not a particularly high standard. Similarly, the NJAC is the strongest conference of the three in the Atlantic, but that isn't an automatic pass to the Top 25 either.

No it isn't, but I noticed that a 1 loss Richard Stockton team with 17 points jumped over a 1 loss Brockport team and into the Top 25 in week 5.  Stockton lost last week and fell back into the ORV.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Who are the strong non-East teams the SUNYAC has wins against this year?

I'm not going there because you'll just come back and tell me all the teams that I think are strong... aren't strong. ???

Since you asked me to check out the SOS of the SUNYAC I will go here though. ;D

Current Strength of Schedule ranking according to Massey's Ratings.    Best to worst in each conference by SOS not won-loss records

NESCAC                                                          SUNYAC

Middlebury    90                                              Plattsburgh       23
Amherst        127                                            Buffalo State     42
Williams        179                                            Brockport          71
Tufts             198                                            Oneonta           151
Bowdoin        259
Wesleyan       261                                            New Paltz         160
Bates            293                                            Geneseo           197
Hamilton       298                                            Potsdam           209
Conn. Coll     310                                            Cortland          242
Colby            329                                            Fredonia          279
Trinity           352                                            Oswego           312

It looks like the SUNYAC wins from top to bottom. Plattsburgh currently has the 23rd strongest schedule in all of D3 and we have 3 teams under 100. Middlebury is the only NESCAC team under 100. At the other end of the spectrum we only have 1 team over the dreaded 300 number while the NESCAC has 3 teams that high and another pair close to it.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2014, 11:33:01 PM
+1 Magicman +1 !!!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 16, 2014, 02:35:25 AM
The SUNYAC should go to an East/West format.  No way a team from about as far West in New York as you can possibly go (Fredonia state) should be making multiple 5+ hour journeys to Plattsburgh, Oneonta, New Paltz, and Cortland state every season.  Even Plattsburgh being way up in the North Country there is pretty screwed when it comes to traveling.  Aside from Potsdam, isn't the next closest YAC school like 3 hours away?? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2014, 03:29:27 AM
Quote from: 7express on January 16, 2014, 02:35:25 AM
The SUNYAC should go to an East/West format.  No way a team from about as far West in New York as you can possibly go (Fredonia state) should be making multiple 5+ hour journeys to Plattsburgh, Oneonta, New Paltz, and Cortland state every season.  Even Plattsburgh being way up in the North Country there is pretty screwed when it comes to traveling.  Aside from Potsdam, isn't the next closest YAC school like 3 hours away??

Yes it is, 7express. Plattsburgh to Oneonta is 230 miles  or to New Paltz is 231. That's where the Cardinals are off to this weekend which is their shortest weekend trip.  Plattsburgh to Cortland is 266 miles and to Oswego is  219 miles, our 2nd shortest weekend  trip.  Those are just short jaunts compared with the Plattsburgh to Fredonia and Buffalo weekend...419 miles and 377 miles respectively. Our other weekend excursion is another "take the scenic route and take your pick " trip to Brockport or Geneseo ,  both only 334 miles  away. (How did they manage that. ???) And don't forget the Lake effect snow storms, and the winds that come howling off Lake Ontario to further heighten your travel experience as you roll on down the interstate or thruway.

I remember my freshman year, April 1966, I had a tennis match at Oswego. The wind was so bad that when you threw the ball up to serve it sailed about a dozen feet away from you. Needless to say that match was played inside the field house that day.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 16, 2014, 01:55:47 PM
Damn, some of those trips are insane.  Makes Western's trip to Southern Maine (about 4.5 hours) seem like a breeze.  Western isn't that close to any school either (Eastern is about 80 miles and about an hour and 45 minutes, and that's the closest) but the majority of the LEC is 3 hours or less from all other institutions so it's very easy to make day trips those games.  This weekend Western is playing @ UMass Boston (2.5 hours away) and even though I'll meet up with my uncle who lives in a suburb and my cousin who goes to BU for dinner, I won't have to leave that early (I'll leave about 10) and won't get back even late either, and that's the case with most of the schools, Southern Maine and Plymouth state (about the same distance as USM) being the only exceptions.

When Plattsburgh has to do the Fredonia Buffalo State trip do they take off Thursday so their not spending 6+ hours on the bus, and do the same thing Saturday, or do they go out Friday and come back Saturday??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2014, 02:10:57 PM
Magicman you played tennis???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 16, 2014, 02:24:55 PM
Magicman.....here I am again on your board.  I played Tennis my freshman year too....or tried to make the freshman team.
However was not allowed since I did not follow the coaches practice time schedule...attitude problem...maybe.  I knew best my abilities compared to others...my viewpoint.  Had to work to get spending money, etc. 
Wanted to say that I enjoyed your rebuttals to Pat C.  Good to challenge "higher ups" :)
Me, I believe Massey  and polls are used by many to provide/support their own, often regional bias, opinions.  Problem comes when the individuals are on selection teams.   I just wait until the end of the season and worry about such things.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 15, 2014, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 14, 2014, 11:28:04 PM
I certainly don't think I'm telling you anything new concerning NESCAC, their single round robin schedule, or their SOS. It's been discussed quite frequently over the years. It just seems like they get a pass despite their non-conference SOS and yet other conferences are held to a higher standard.         

Isn't it more likely that they get a pass because they show up in March year after year? After a decade or so it's fair for a voter to believe that the best NESCAC team is going to show up in the Elite 8, if not the Final Four.

Pat,

This discussion started with a reponse to your statement that Brockport didn't have any wins worthy of consideration. You had also stated, in a separate response to other posters, that Brockport wasn't winning against Top 25 teams. I tried to show that there are other teams in the Top 25 that don't have wins any better than Brockport's. I chose Bowdoin as an example and felt that the 2 teams were fairly close in what was on their resume. I feel that Brockport is every bit as deserving as Bowdoin to merit inclusion in the Top 25. I gave my reasons and believe them to be valid ones. You didn't disagree with my analysis.

You came back with a response to my post, which I admit, was quite long winded (a good defense requires a long explanation ;)), and you focused on one statement that I made...that I felt our non-conference record was "very good". You implied it wasn't very good by D3 standards. You also told me that, since I liked Massey so much, to look at Massey's SOS for SUNYAC teams.  Again I put forth my reasons why I felt the conference was very good, as well as my rebuttal to your statement that the SUNYAC teams didn't have a good SOS. Once more I used the NESCAC conference as a comparison and thought my facts were supportive of my position.

Your latest response to my last post, focused on my statement..."It just seems like they get a pass despite their non-conference SOS and yet other conferences are held to a higher standard."  You bring up this ... they likely get a pass because their best team, year after year, ends up in the Elite 8 or Final Four. I wasn't talking about the best team in NESCAC and the NCAA tournament. I started this discussion comparing Bowdoin with Brockport and why I thought their resumes were similar.  Bowdoin is getting the pass into the Top 25, since they seem to be lacking the same credentials, that you point out, are keeping Brockport from a Top 25 ranking.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Being the strongest conference of the three and a half in the region is not a particularly high standard. Similarly, the NJAC is the strongest conference of the three in the Atlantic, but that isn't an automatic pass to the Top 25 either.

No it isn't, but I noticed that a 1 loss Richard Stockton team with 17 points jumped over a 1 loss Brockport team and into the Top 25 in week 5.  Stockton lost last week and fell back into the ORV.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 15, 2014, 01:33:53 PM
Who are the strong non-East teams the SUNYAC has wins against this year?

I'm not going there because you'll just come back and tell me all the teams that I think are strong... aren't strong. ???

Since you asked me to check out the SOS of the SUNYAC I will go here though. ;D

Current Strength of Schedule ranking according to Massey's Ratings.    Best to worst in each conference by SOS not won-loss records

NESCAC                                                          SUNYAC

Middlebury    90                                              Plattsburgh       23
Amherst        127                                            Buffalo State     42
Williams        179                                            Brockport          71
Tufts             198                                            Oneonta           151
Bowdoin        259
Wesleyan       261                                            New Paltz         160
Bates            293                                            Geneseo           197
Hamilton       298                                            Potsdam           209
Conn. Coll     310                                            Cortland          242
Colby            329                                            Fredonia          279
Trinity           352                                            Oswego           312

It looks like the SUNYAC wins from top to bottom. Plattsburgh currently has the 23rd strongest schedule in all of D3 and we have 3 teams under 100. Middlebury is the only NESCAC team under 100. At the other end of the spectrum we only have 1 team over the dreaded 300 number while the NESCAC has 3 teams that high and another pair close to it.

I'm going to reiterate that a conference proves its strength in March, especially vs. out-of-region competition. NESCAC was 2-0 vs. the SUNYAC in the tournament last year alone. SUNYAC hasn't been to the round of eight since 2007 and hasn't been to the Final Four since the tournament was 32 teams.

You and the guy touting Richard Stockton should have a battle royale on the Top 25 message board and see who can win the "we should be ranked" discussion. :)

By the way, it's not that the record isn't good. That's just a number. But what does it reflect? Who was it compiled against? Brockport State may well be very good but we don't have a lot of data points to confirm that. The only one we have outside of the SUNYAC that is meaningful to an out-of-region Top 25 voter is a loss to Purchase. Now, after going 15-11 last year, I can understand why creating a schedule that has meaningful Top 25-type opponents on it might be low on the priority list, but that's the way it is.

I'm sorry I don't have time to deliver similarly long-winded responses. I have my hands full with my day job, my family and D3sports.com -- debating on the boards is a lot lower on the list than it used to be.

You're right -- I didn't disagree on Bowdoin vs. Brockport. But as a neutral observer, I can see why a voter would pick the unbeaten team from the NESCAC over a 1-loss team from the SUNYAC. Also, because voters know the NESCAC is a strong conference, they know that a NESCAC upstart team eventually will get tested, where we might not be able to trust that will happen in other conferences.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on January 16, 2014, 04:03:45 PM
Pep has said this over on Post Patterns and will reiterate here that polls, to Pep, are meaningless. While it's nice to be noticed, it's more noticeable to be nice. If Brockport State is deserving of Top 25 votes, the Golden Eagles will continue winning...right through to the Sweet Sixteen, Elite Eight, Final Four or, heck, to an NCAA title.

The (legendary) Alfred Football Coach Alex Yunevich always told his boys to wait to celebrate when the season's over. The news clippings and accolades and polls don't matter much when you're preparing for the next game.

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 16, 2014, 04:27:20 PM
I agree with the argument that Brockport should be in the top 25. Their win over Plattsburgh coupled with Plattsburgh's non-conference success should have propelled them into the poll this week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 16, 2014, 05:59:17 PM
Brockport is a very good team, they have all the pieces you need to go a long way, not to mention a 7 footer coming off the bench.  They should be ranked.  Their only loss was at Purchase (11-0) in 2OT, and the Eagles took the last shot in each of the first two OT's; one shot either way and that game takes a different outcome. 

Purchase by the way has 7'2" Joel Neri, and D-I size, starting 2 6-3 guards, and 6-6 and 6-7 forwards. 

Would be nice if the SUNY Comprehensives and larger techs formed a bigger conference with 2 divisions and possibly two bids.  In addition to the 10 current SUNYAC schools, Farmingdale, Old Westbury, Purchase, SUNYIT, Morrisville, & Cobleskill are all NCAA schools, which would give 16 schools in East & West Divisions.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2014, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
I'm going to reiterate that a conference proves its strength in March, especially vs. out-of-region competition. NESCAC was 2-0 vs. the SUNYAC in the tournament last year alone. SUNYAC hasn't been to the round of eight since 2007 and hasn't been to the Final Four since the tournament was 32 teams.

That was last year and has nothing to do with the discussion that was initiated by your original remarks.


Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
You and the guy touting Richard Stockton should have a battle royale on the Top 25 message board and see who can win the "we should be ranked" discussion. :)

I haven't responded in any way like that guy has about any part of our discussion, Pat. I've alway's treated you with respect, even if we disagree, which we obviously do about Brockport and the SUNYAC this year.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
Brockport State may well be very good but we don't have a lot of data points to confirm that. The only one we have outside of the SUNYAC that is meaningful to an out-of-region Top 25 voter is a loss to Purchase. Now, after going 15-11 last year, I can understand why creating a schedule that has meaningful Top 25-type opponents on it might be low on the priority list, but that's the way it is.


Brockport's lack of scheduling any Top 25 teams on their schedule this year, was addressed in my earlier post. It's hard to play Top 25 teams when there are none in your region. Last night Carthage played #21 Wheaton and dealt them their 5th loss.. At what point do we say this team isn't Top 25 worthy?  They were Top 25 worthy at 10-4?...Will they still be Top 25 worthy at 10-5? What about Carthage, now 10-5, with wins over 3 Top 25 teams this year already (and two of those teams were a Top 5 and Top 10. Since they just beat Wheaton will they now get voted into the Top 25? In 10 days they get to play another Top 25 team in IWU. If they win that game will they get voted in? They might and maybe they deserve to be in there with 5 losses but the 7th place team in the SUNYAC, Buffalo State with a 6-6 record, beat Carthage on a neutral court. Then they followed that up by beating North Central the next day. The same North Central team that took #1 Stevens Point right down to the wire and lost 66-64. When you get to play multiple Top 25 teams, several times, because they're in your own conference it's easy to have a "meaningful schedule" that wasn't created by anyone in particular...it was simply handed to you.

Time to end this discussion. I don't like my chances of coming away with a win. Massey has me listed as a 12 point underdog. :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 16, 2014, 09:20:13 PM
+K Magic, and I doubt Pat was fully aware that the Purchase - Brockport game was one roll of the sphere away from going the other way.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 17, 2014, 12:17:10 AM
For years the SUNYAC was split in two divisions until the SUNY centers went D 1.  We added SUNYIT and Morrisville.  they left.  This left us with the core 10 colleges.  The powers to be decided on a schedule of home and away 18 games conference schedule.  This was the first time for this in the long history of this great conference.  Having so many conference games cuts in to the ability to schedule non conference out of market games.  Either we stay the course and get no respect or we make changes.  PS finally get to see my Bears Saturday against New Paltz hoping for some great things but I may just be dreaming.  Until my last breathe I will never give up on my Bears.
I agree with Bear if Brockport beat Purchase, Brockport is a top 25 team.  Purchase is undefeated because they also play in a conference that plays 18 conference games with some extremely weak schools they also get no respect and are only ranked 17 with many  schools ranked ahead of them with multiple loses .  I believe if the ball would have rolled in different directions and Brockport beats Purchase,  this would as have been Brockport's fate. Go figure.  Maybe its a popularity contest.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 17, 2014, 12:46:39 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 16, 2014, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
I'm going to reiterate that a conference proves its strength in March, especially vs. out-of-region competition. NESCAC was 2-0 vs. the SUNYAC in the tournament last year alone. SUNYAC hasn't been to the round of eight since 2007 and hasn't been to the Final Four since the tournament was 32 teams.

That was last year and has nothing to do with the discussion that was initiated by your original remarks.

A Top 25 poll is significantly based on impression and those games absolutely have an impact on the impression of the two conferences.


Quote from: magicman on January 16, 2014, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
You and the guy touting Richard Stockton should have a battle royale on the Top 25 message board and see who can win the "we should be ranked" discussion. :)

I haven't responded in any way like that guy has about any part of our discussion, Pat. I've alway's treated you with respect, even if we disagree, which we obviously do about Brockport and the SUNYAC this year.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 16, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
Brockport State may well be very good but we don't have a lot of data points to confirm that. The only one we have outside of the SUNYAC that is meaningful to an out-of-region Top 25 voter is a loss to Purchase. Now, after going 15-11 last year, I can understand why creating a schedule that has meaningful Top 25-type opponents on it might be low on the priority list, but that's the way it is.


Brockport's lack of scheduling any Top 25 teams on their schedule this year, was addressed in my earlier post. It's hard to play Top 25 teams when there are none in your region. Last night Carthage played #21 Wheaton and dealt them their 5th loss.. At what point do we say this team isn't Top 25 worthy?  They were Top 25 worthy at 10-4?...Will they still be Top 25 worthy at 10-5? What about Carthage, now 10-5, with wins over 3 Top 25 teams this year already (and two of those teams were a Top 5 and Top 10. Since they just beat Wheaton will they now get voted into the Top 25? In 10 days they get to play another Top 25 team in IWU. If they win that game will they get voted in? They might and maybe they deserve to be in there with 5 losses but the 7th place team in the SUNYAC, Buffalo State with a 6-6 record, beat Carthage on a neutral court. Then they followed that up by beating North Central the next day. The same North Central team that took #1 Stevens Point right down to the wire and lost 66-64. When you get to play multiple Top 25 teams, several times, because they're in your own conference it's easy to have a "meaningful schedule" that wasn't created by anyone in particular...it was simply handed to you.

Time to end this discussion. I don't like my chances of coming away with a win. Massey has me listed as a 12 point underdog. :o

I believe Carthage has two wins against current Top 25 teams ... and they have five losses. So they will present an interesting case for voters. And here's an idea -- play teams outside the East Region. There are only 30-some teams in the region and about 370 outside of it, so perhaps there are worthy opponents out there. Play in a holiday tournament somewhere warm (heck, come to Vegas!) or play someone in the OAC or the Mid-Atlantic. Those are all games that count in the primary criteria these days. (And the Pennsylvania teams have been in-region for about a decade.)

Quote from: thebear on January 16, 2014, 09:20:13 PM
+K Magic, and I doubt Pat was fully aware that the Purchase - Brockport game was one roll of the sphere away from going the other way.

You mean, just like any other OT game?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 17, 2014, 11:28:15 AM
Magicman.....Thanks for the more than anticipated response :) +k ....have  responded here to also reduce your traveling time.  Crossing boards can be enjoyable to me and also to others.  Had a cross board discussion with AUPep on football once and somehow ended up on the subject of Columbia Un. in Spanish Harlem!   As you probably know, my connection with Vandy74 is with Amherst and with Middhoops via his family connection with Vandy and so it goes.  Bucket knows one of my sons during his time working in D.C..  Old Guy is another matter.  Yes, he is around your age..let Middhoops provide the answer.  My connection to Old Guy is via a mutual Amherst player...now actor and Union President...Ken Howard who was in the class of '66 at Amherst.  Old Guy fondly remembers playing against Ken on the BB court.  Ken Howard was a freshman when I was a senior...a 6'5" forward then.  The taller players that played freshman ball often left the team and played fraternity ball instead.  My 6'9" freshman classmate center play with me on our frat team.  We even tried to recruit the 6'10" center the following year to our frat team...but alas he went to a rival frat.  Oh yes, Ken Howard played the BB coach in the TV series "White Shadow"...you may recall.
Last connection note.....ECSU lives in Newtown CT..wife and family neighborhood.  He is a strong supporter of his college and therefore knows the school president...and her husband.  The husband is a classmate of mine and I have met his wife as well.  Sorry about this digression. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
amh63,

Old Guy one upped everybody....he sent me an email with his age. He's got me by 2 years. I knew when Vandy said he was a sophomore in 65 that I was probably a year or two younger as I was a freshman in 65.

Knew all about the Ken Howard, Amherst connection. Great story. Used to watch The White Shadow all the time. And I saw Old Guy's recollection of his time on the court against Howard.

Interesting connection with ECSU....it really is a small world...sometimes. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: 7express on January 16, 2014, 01:55:47 PM
Damn, some of those trips are insane.  Makes Western's trip to Southern Maine (about 4.5 hours) seem like a breeze.  Western isn't that close to any school either (Eastern is about 80 miles and about an hour and 45 minutes, and that's the closest) but the majority of the LEC is 3 hours or less from all other institutions so it's very easy to make day trips those games.  This weekend Western is playing @ UMass Boston (2.5 hours away) and even though I'll meet up with my uncle who lives in a suburb and my cousin who goes to BU for dinner, I won't have to leave that early (I'll leave about 10) and won't get back even late either, and that's the case with most of the schools, Southern Maine and Plymouth state (about the same distance as USM) being the only exceptions.

When Plattsburgh has to do the Fredonia Buffalo State trip do they take off Thursday so their not spending 6+ hours on the bus, and do the same thing Saturday, or do they go out Friday and come back Saturday??

7 express..don't shed too many tears  :'( for the Cards, because of their travel woes. Its not any prettier for those who have to travel from Western New York to Plattsburgh. :(  Teams usually have to leave around 12-2 p.m. on a Thursday and the trip can take anywhere from 7-10 hours depending on route and weather.  ::)  Hopefully 1 would play Plattsburgh on Friday and then after a good nights sleep (you need it after playing the Cards).The next day you then take off for Potsdam. After that game then its another 280 miles home to Buffalo! :o  Total trip could easily be over 20 something hours (and that's a lot of movies ). God forbid that your team goes 0-2 on the trip (which is not uncommon when you travel to the north country) :( .

To make the trip worthwhile, I have been told that you must visit the "Musicshop" in Plattsburgh. There you will find everything 1 needs to satisfy their musical needs ( and maybe even some knowledgeable SUNYAC basketball  folks  :) ). I've been told that the Hampton Inn and or Microtel Hotel provide suitable accommodations too. But 20 + hours on a bus is.....20+ hours on a bus. Heck I imagine that Curle, Perez, Manning and company actually look forward to their trek to the 716 (Buffalo NY). I've been told that some of them may have a penchant for games of chance ::). Armed with this new knowledge in hand, I have paid for the 3 of them to participate in the Seneca Niagara 4th Annual $20,000 Blackjack tourney. The tourney starts at 6 p.m. on 1/24/14, and it comes with a free buffet and room  :D. I sure hope that they take me up on that offer. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 12:27:46 PM
D3hoops has rolled out a new format for the front page, team pages and scoreboards. Looks good so far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 12:48:31 PM
Bengalsrule,

You only paid for those 2 players and Coach Curle to take part in the blackjack tournament? Heck you must not remember the game on Feb.6th, 2010 when the Bengals lost in Plattsburgh 88-86 on a last second putback by the Cards Steve Thomas at the buzzer.  The coach of the team that day, since Coach Curle was out of town on family matters, was assistant Cameron Conover. He remains the only undefeated coach in the YAC. You're gonna need to distract more than those guys if you want a W on Jan 24th. 

So go ahead treat Coach Curle to that blackjack tournament, Coach Conover can mind the store for the evening. And you can even distract John Perez and Chris Manning with that tournament as well. As long as we have the computer...Shamoy McIntosh, the Xman, Xavier Thomas, and the rest of the Cardinal regulars we'll be fine ;D   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 08:10:04 PM
Four games  on the schedule tonight. Travel partners Buffalo State and Fredonia State have the night off.


Plattsburgh State at  New Paltz State    8:00 PM

The Cardinals are coming off a game that should have been in the win column and they know it. The Hawks are coming off a game that broke a 13 year old losing streak, their first win over Oswego since 2001. They have to be feeling confident. Tonight they look to do more streaking by beating the Cardinals for the 2nd time in a row, something they haven't done in a long time.  The Cardinals own a whopping 14-2 mark in the last 16 games in this series stretching back over the past seven years. However the Hawks own the most recent win and that was a come from behind victory last February when the Cardinals gave up a 7 point lead with a lttle over 2 minutes left in the game. Plattsburgh took some ill advised shots in that game instead of using some clock and the Hawks were able to drain a 3 pointer at the buzzer to win the game. The loss prevented the Cardinals from an opportunity to gain the top seed in last year's YAC  playoffs. The oddsmakers favor the Cardinals by a double digit 12 point spread. The boys from Plattsburgh better get off the bus ready to play though. New Paltz is showing signs of a team that is starting to jell and they are capable of beating any team in this league. They have alrready done something that Plattsburgh couldn't do...Beat Oswego in Max Ziel Gym. I think Coach Curle imparted a few lessons on the Cardinals this week after their meltdown against Brockport last Saturday. I see them winning this game 80-71.
GO CARDS!!


Oswego State at Brockport State         8:00 PM

The Lakers need to regroup after a rare loss at home to a team that will struggle to make the playoffs. If you hope to win the conference you can't lose home games, especially to teams that are picked to finish in the lower part of the YAC. Tonight they have their work cut out for them though as Brockport is looking like the team to beat. The Golden Eagles swept their trip up north last weekend and now are finally get a few home games after 9 straight contests on the road. The Lakers have had Brockport's number  recently as they have faced each other 3 times in each of the past 2 seasons and Oswego has won all 6 games. The last time Brockport beat the Lakers was in the 2nd round of the playoffs in 2010-11. That was during the Chad Burridge-Hayden Ward era at Oswego and those Laker legends are no longer lighting up opposing defenses. The Lakers are still a solid team and Brockport will have their hands full tonight but I think they can keep their winning streak alive. The pointspread favors the Eagles by16 points but i think that's too many.  I believe the Eagles win win their 9th game in a row tonight by a 83-75 final score.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
Cortland State at Geneseo State         8:00 PM

Cortland will run into some problems tonight as they face a talented Geneseo  team that is looking to stay in the thick of the SUNYAC race. The Knights trail Cortland 5-2 in this series, over the past 3 years but did split with the Red Dragons last season. The pointspread favors the Knights by 6 points but tis game could go right down to the wire. I think the Knights at home will prevail by a 78-75 margin.



Potsdam State at Oneonta State        8:00 PM

The Bears will need to be at their very best to go into Oneonta and take down these Red Dragons. I don't see it happening. Too many weapons for Oneonta and Zach Mager should have a field day. Dragons favored by 13...Bears only lose by 9 though 79-70


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
Plattsburgh leads New Paltz 49-37 at the half.

Eddie Correa with 15 points on 5x8 from 3 point range to lead the Cards. John Perez with 14 points and 4 rebounds. Perez 5x7 from the filed and 4x5 from the line.

Keegan Donovan and Andrew Joseph both have 8 points for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 08:51:30 PM
Other halftime scores.

Brockport 37 Oswego State 37

Balanced scoring from the Eagles, brandon Caruthers and Patrick Coyle with 7, Bobby Bell and Clifton Lyerly with 6,  John Ivy with 5

Daniel Ross with 11 for Oswego. Kyle Covley and Rashawn powell with 8
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 09:05:13 PM
Geneseo trails Cortland 29-21 at the break


Oneonta out in front of Potsdam 36-24 at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 09:39:01 PM
Geneseo trailed Cortland earl on 18-4 and fought back to cut it to 29-21 at the half a]has come  all the way back and leads 55-52 with 10 seconds left in the game. Cortland attempted a 3 pointer that missed but they got the offensive board and was then fouled by the Knights who called a time out. Red Dragons miss the front end of a 1&1 and Knights get the rebound and Cortland fouls Gordon Lyons with 8 seconds left. Lyons missed the front end of a 1&1 Cortland gets the rebound and calls time out with 8 seconds left. Cortland inbounds goes downcourt and Lamard Herron with a shot at the buzzer that doesn't go down.

Geneseo wins it 55-52. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 09:44:36 PM
2 more final scores just in:

Brockport defeats Oswego 78-64. Too much John Ivy (22 points) and Brandon Caruthers (15 points) and Matt Lee (13 points) and Patrick Coyle (10 points)

Port now 10-1 with a 9 game winning streak.



Oneonta downs Potsdam 72-51   Too much Zach Mager (24 points) and Dan Lee (10 points)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2014, 10:31:59 PM
Our 4th game of the night just went final and Plattsburgh gets the win over New Paltz 96-81

John Perez with a big game for Plattsburgh as he scores a career high 29 points, grabs 6 rebounds and has 5 assists.

Eddie Correa set his 3rd new career high in a week as he had 25 points. Eddie had 22 at Middlebury on Jan 7th, 23 last Saturday against Brockport and tonight he was 7 for 11 from the field and they were all 3 pointers. He was also 4x4 from the line.

Xavier Thomas was the 3rd Cardinal player to set a career high tonight as the Xman had 12 points on a 5x5 perfect night from the field. He had 4 field goals from regulation and 1 from long distance.

Shavar Fields had 8 points and 11 rebounds

Chris Manning has 7 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Shamoy McIntosh had 6 points and 6 assists

Mike Mitchell had 5 points and 3 assists.

The Hawks had 5 guys in double figures. That usually translates into a win
Andrew Joseph with 14, Keegan Donovan with 13, Nick Taldi with 13, Taylor Sowah with 10 and Kevin Roach with 10. Roach had 8 rebounds, Joseph had 8 boards and so did Sowah.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 18, 2014, 09:03:26 AM
To Magic and all contributing posters--Great discussion on the polls and enjoyed all the valuable information. I really don't think Pat will ever see the East Region as worthy of a Top 25 team, UNLESS undefeated and playing schedule outside of East Region. This is extremely difficult for SUNY schools with budgets and travel expenses. I liked the comment by the AUPep poster about "just keep winning and preparing for the next game." At some point people will take notice and good things should happen. Good luck tonight vs Cortland-- MY Eagles!!! Over and out down here in sunny Florida!!! Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 03:58:49 PM
A full slate in the SUNYAC today as all 10 teams are in action;


Potsdam State   at New Paltz State    4:00 PM

The Hawks looking  to rebound from the loss to Plattsburgh. The Bears looking for their first conference win. I don't think they get it today. Point spread favors the Hawks by 10 points. I don't know if the Bears can keep it any closer....Hawks win this one 79-70

   
   
Plattsburgh State      Oneonta State      4:00 PM

The Red Dragons continue to impress as they currently sit alone in 2nd place in the conference with a lofty 5-1 record. Yes they've played the bottom 3 teams in the YAC and took care of business there, but they also own a pair of wins against perennial playoff teams, Cortland and Oswego. Led by All Conference performer Zach Mager this team can play with anyone in the YAC it would appear. The Cardinals are looking to sweep the weekend and can't afford another early loss. It's been 7 years and 6 days since the Red Dragons last walked off a basketball court with a win over Plattsburgh State. The Cardinals have reeled off 12 straight in that time span. The oddsmakers think they will make it 13 in a row today as they are favored by 9 points. I agree with the oddsmakers , the Cardinals will put a damper on the fire breathing Dragons. Final score....Plattsburgh 83 Oneonta 76.       
 
   
   
Brockport State      Cortland State      6:00 PM   
   
Geneseo State      Oswego State      8:00 PM 
   
Buffalo State      Fredonia State      8:0 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 04:50:09 PM
Plattsburgh leads Oneonta 32-31 at the half

Back and forth action the entire period that featured 6 lead changes and 8 ties. The Cardinals went into the break with the lead on a jumper by Chris Manning at the buzzer.

Shavar Fields with 9 points, John Perez with 8 and Chris Manning with 7 to lead Plattsburgh.

Zach Mager with 11 for Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 04:53:47 PM
New Paltz leads Potsdam 36-28 at the half

Nick Taldi and Andrew Seniuk with 9 points each for the Hawks.

Zac Adams with 8 and Brandon Williams with 7 for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 05:42:46 PM
Plattsburgh State takes down Oneonta by a score of  84-73. 

That's fairly close to my predicted final score of the Cardinals winning by an 83-76 margin. Details to follow a bit later.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 05:47:54 PM
 Barnburner at New Paltz as Potsdam has fought back to close within a single point at 65-64. Just a few ticks left.

Hawks with a free throw to make it 66-64  with 2.7 seconds left. Time out.  Potsdam inbounds the ball and races down court and gets off a decent shot 3 point attempt  at the buzzer by Rishawd Hendricks that draws iron but won't go down.

Hawks win a close one 66-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 06:06:01 PM
Here are the other 3 matchups for today:


Brockport State      Cortland State      6:00 PM

The Golden Eagles are on a roll and this game against Cortland will be huge in the standings for both teams. The Eagles have lost 4 straight to Cortland and revenge will certainly be a motive in today's contest. Cortland is looking to avoid a weekend sweep as they dropped a heartbreaker yesterday at Geneseo. The point spread favors Brockport by 10 but i think the game may be a little closer. I see the Eagles winning this one 76-69.

 
   
Geneseo State      Oswego State      8:00 PM

Oswego State desparately needs a win here as they have fallen to 4-3 in the YAC and currently find themselves in a 5th place tie with Cortland. Geneseo needs a win to stay ahead of Plattsburgh. This series is tied at 5-5 over the past 5 years but the Lakers have won 5 of the last 6 meetings. I think the Knights will have something to say about that today. The point spread favors Geneseo by a slim 3 point margin and I believe this will be a close game as well. This one will be a Geneseo victory by a 73-70 score.

 
   
Buffalo State      Fredonia State      8:00 PM

The Bengals are fighting for survival as they have dropped 3 straight in the conference and fallen from 1st to 7th in the process. The good news is Fredonia is up next. The bad news is they have to face Brockport and Plattsburgh right after that. A victory tonight will help them right the ship. Fredonia is coming off a 97-47 shellacking by the Golden Eagles. The good news is they won't get beat like that tonight. The bad news is they will get beat. Oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 12 point favorite. I don't think it will be that close. Bengals win 85-68.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 07:15:36 PM
Brockport over Cortland 40-30 at the half.

Golden Eagles with a 10 point lead and they recieved no help from their All American John IVy who picked up 2 early fouls in the first 3 minutes of the half and spent the rest of it on the bench. Brandon Caruthers was the big gun for the Eagles.

Cortland couldn't hit the ocean if they were standing on the beach as they went the first 10 minutes of the period without a field goal.
They were down by as much as 14 points but Lamard Herron scored in the final seconds to cut the lead to 10 at the break. Kevin McMahon was the leading scorer for the Dragons n the first half. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 08:13:54 PM
Brockport 77 Cortland 65

I almost had this one as well as I predicted a 76-69 Brockport win.

Brockport led at the break by 10 points and quickly expanded the lead to 17 after 5:19 was gone in the 2nd. The reached their largest lead of 21 less than a minute later and were never seriouly threatened from that point on. The Eagles exorcised a few demons today  against Cortland, and took a firm hold on the lead in the conference, as they won their 5th straight SUNYAC game in the past 9 days. They have strung together 10 straight victories and improve to 11-1 overall.

They wiil be in action again on Tuesday when they host the Buffalo State Bengals, and then head east for the weekend to tackle Oneonta and New Paltz.

Golden Eagles were led by Brandon Caruthers with 23 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, and 4 steals.

John Ivy, who only played 17 minutes due to foul trouble in the first half finished with 11 points.

Patrick Coyle had 9 points and 5 rebounds while Adeniran Olusola had 7 points and 6 rebounds.

Cortland got a huge effort once again from Kevin McMahon as he scored 30 points had 14 rebounds and 4 assists. No one else was in double figures for the Dragons. Lamard Herron and Garen Spendjian had 9 points each.

McMahon led his team in points, rebounds and assists.

Cortland falls to 9-6 overall and 4-4 in the YAC. They are temporarily alone in 6th place pending the outcome of two night games later on.

They will return to action on Tuesday with a trip to Oneonta to try an avenge this week's loss to those Red Dragons. Then it's another grudge match with today's opponent as they travel to Brockport and hope to reverse the outcome of this afternoon.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 18, 2014, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 18, 2014, 09:03:26 AM
To Magic and all contributing posters--Great discussion on the polls and enjoyed all the valuable information. I really don't think Pat will ever see the East Region as worthy of a Top 25 team, UNLESS undefeated and playing schedule outside of East Region.

Or if the East Region evolves and has more success in March. I mean, when the poll started, people used to say the same about the South Region, but teams in that region elevated their game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 08:59:22 PM
Buffalo State leads Fredonia 39-34 at the half.


Bengals were a bit sluggish coming out of the gate and allowed the Blue Devils to open up a 19-10 lead after the first 6+ minutes had gone by. Bengals with a 9-0 run to tie things up and after a Fredonia 3 pointer put the back up 22-19 the bengals ripped off a 10-0 run tio go in front to stay for the rest of the period. They enjoyed their largest lead at 39-31 but the Blue Devils got a basket on theirv final possession to cut it to the 5 point lead at the break.

Justin Mitchell with 8 points to lead the Bengals. Legree Kirkland with 7 points and 6 rebounds. Jordan Glover with 7 points and Rod Epps with 6 points and 3 steals.

Tyrone Clark with 16 points to pace th Blue Devils. Eric Zwierlein has 11.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 09:05:52 PM
Oswego leads Geneseo 41-29 at the half.


Bryan Sortino with 13 points Daniel Ross with 8 for the lakers.

Gordon Lyons with 12 poins and 6 rebounds for the Knights
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 09:46:31 PM
Geneseo wins at Oswego by a score of 66-62.

Again I was fairly close as I had the Knights winning by a 73-70 score.

The Knights had to overcome a 14 point second half deficit to pull out the win. More details later on.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 10:24:30 PM
The final game of the SUNYAC slate is over and the Buffalo State Bengals defeat Fredonia State by a score of 81-74.

Final score was a bit closer than my 85-68 prediction, but the 155 total points was only 2 off my 153 point projection. Gotta take what positives I can. ;D      Did go 5 for 5 today as well. 8-)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2014, 11:22:53 PM
Plattsburgh State 84  Oneonta State 73

The teams fought a spirited first half that featured numerous ties and lead changes and had Plattsburgh in front at the buzzer by slim 32-31 margin. The biggest leads of the half came early on by the Cardinals at 8-2 and 11-5. After the Red Dragons reversed that deficit by taking a 12-11 lead the teams were never separated by more than 3 points the rest of the period.  They continued to trade punches from the moment the 2nd period started until the 13:23 mark. The Cardinals got 3 baskets from John Perez and 1 from Ed Correa in a span of a minute and a half to move in front by 6 points for the largest separation since that 11-5 early lead they enjoyed. The lead continued to fluctuate between 4 and 6 points for Plattsburgh when the Cardinals, up 53-48, got a long range bomb from Chris Manning followed by a pair of free throws from John Perez and the first double digit margin of the night at 58-48 belonged to the Cards. Still down 10 points, at 63-53, with 9:30 left to play, the Red Dragons turned to their Jacks and Zachs as they got a 3 pointer from Jack Dignan, another 3 from Jackson Zuvic, followed by a layup by Zach Mager. Just like that it was a 2 point game again at 63-61, and only 1:08 had come off the clock.

The Cardinals would respond as point guard Chris Manning drained another 3 (can't remember if he has ever had a pair of  3's in a single game as he's usually setting up all the other shooters for them), back up point guard,Mike Mitchell, (not usually on the floor at the same time as Manning) then drained a 3 of his own and after two minutes of nothing but misses, from the field and the line for both teams, Shavar Fields sunk a pair of free throws to boost the Cardinals' lead back to 10 points, and the clock showed 4:41 remaining. 

Zuvic responded for the Dragons to cut it back to single digits, but the Cardinals got a pair of layups from Fields that sandwiched a 3 pointer from Eddie Correa and the lead reached a game high of 16 points. The victory cigar was ignited and it was just a matter of how many times the Red Dragons would foul to try and extend the game. Wisely they did so only 4 times in the final 2 minutes to keep the score a respectable 11 point loss.

Plattsburgh was led once  again by John Perez who has made a strong case for Player of the Week honors. John scored a team high 22 points and led the Cards with 8 rebounds as well. This effort come on the heels of his career high of 28 points last night against New Paltz. It seemed like every time we needed a score today Perez was there  with one to tie it up or give us the lead. Outstanding weekend for JP.

Shavar Fields also scored 22 points to tie for the Plattsburgh scoring honors. Shavar added 5 rebounds and a steal as well.

Point guard Chris Manning had a career high 16 points as he decided it was time to throw up a few 3 pointers of his own. The senior floor leader has been instrumental in helping the Cardinals' 3 point specialists, Shamoy McIntosh, Eddie Correa, and Ezra Hodgson get their shots off without being pressured, with his pinpoint passing and great field of vision. Tonight with McIntosh on the bench with an injury, and with the Red Dragons keying on Eddie Correa defensively, Manning used the opening to hoist a few of his own shots from downtown. I was at practice one night while he was shooting, so I started catching and returning the ball to him. I think he made about 18 out of 20 in one stretch (all three point attempts) and I commented about his improved ability from long distance asking if he was going to put up a few 3's of is own this year. He shrugged and said maybe, but all year long he's fed the ball to the other players with an occasional three pointer of his own. Tonight he took 5 shots from beyond the arc and made 3 of them, all at opportune times in the game. In addition to his 16 points, he finished with 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 4 steals.

Mike Mitchell and Ezra Hodgson both had 7 points as they were nearly perfect tonight shooting the rock. Between tham they were 5x6 from the field 3x3 from long range and 1x2 from the line.

Cards shot 56% from the field, (32x57) 58% from long range (7x12), but only 52% from the line (13x25) (Maybe they should fire up some jumpers or back up while taking their free throws) They had 32 rebounds the same as Oneonta but only committed 9 turnovers to 17 for the Dragons. Oneonta also shot the ball fairly well as they went 50 % from the field  (27x54) 45.5% from 3 point range (10x22), and 60% from the line (9x16).

Zach Mager captured scoring honors for the game with 28 points hitting 10x20 from the field and 3x8 from long range.

Jackson Zivac had 12 points and 5 boards.

Mikey McElroy had 10 points and 9 rebounds.

Jack Dignan had 11 points 5 assists and 4 rebounds.

The Cardinals improve to 10-3 on the season and 4-2 in the YAC. Plattsburgh will return to action on Tuesday Jan 21st when they host travel partner Potsdam. Then it's back on the road to the far reaches of the western part of the state to take on the Bengals and Fredonia on the weekend.

The Red Dragons fall to 8-6 overall and 5-2 in the conference. Oneonta continues to enjoy an extended homestand as they host Cortland on Tuesday for the Battle of the Red Dragons, and then welcome in Brockport and Geneso on the weekend. That will be a stretch of 5 straight home games for the Dragons but they will pay for that homestand when they end the season with 5 of their final 8 games on the road. The last 2 conference games they play are at Geneseo and at Brockport. They better hope they don't need a win in that final weekend to make the plaloffs because I don't see one there. They may be 5-2 right now and in 3rd place, but in projecting them out, I think they end up at  best with a 10-8 mark. Personally,  I think it will be 9-9, but it could be as bad as 8-10.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2014, 05:51:22 AM
Geneseo 66 Oswego 62

This game started out evenly and after the first 5+ minutes the Lakers were up 9-8.  Over the next 5 minutes however, Oswego outscored the knights 14 to 4 and suddenly the lead had ballooned to 13 points at 25-12. Still down 13, Geneseo used a pair of Gordon Lyons inside buckets and 2 free throws by Connor Fedge to pull within 7 at 29-22 with 5:30 left in the period. The Lakers would take off again though and 7 points by Brian Sortino, a triple by Kyle Covley and a basket by Daniel Ross gave Oswego its largest lead of the half at 41-26. The Knights scored the last 3 points of the stanza to cut the 15 point deficit down to 12.

The Knights needed something good to happen coming of the break to get back into this game but after 7 minutes had gone by they weren't any further ahead than when the period started as the score stood at 49-35. Enter the law firm of Lyons and Fedge, as the 2 leading scorers for the Knights led a charge that brought Geneseo from 14 down into a 54-53 lead with a 19-4 run. With 4:52 left on the clock it marked the first time the Knight had led since the score was 3-2 in the opening minutes. The lead was short lived though as Brian Sortino got a tip in and was fouled. The 3 point play put the Lakers up 56-54 but it was the last lead they would enjoy. Lyons tied the game with a jumper and after Andy Drescher stole the ball a minute later, Lyons scored again for the lead. The Lakers had their chances but missed a 3 pointer, got it back after a Geneseo turnover, missed a jumper, got the offensive rebound and missed a layup. The Knights grabbed the rebound with 1:46 remaining and called a time out. Twelve seconds later Fedge scored on a layup to make it a 2 possession game at 60-56. Brian Sortino made a pair of free throws for the Lakers with 30 seconds left and Oswego had to foul shortly after the inbounds pass. Andy Drescher made both free throws, Sortino went coast to coast, scored, and the Lakers fouled Fedge with 11 ticks left. He made a pair from the line and Sortino went the length of the court to score once again. Drescher was fouled and he came through in the clutch to make it 66-62. With just 6 seconds left the Lakers were out of time and turned the ball over without another shot. Nice comeback by the Knights in enemy territory.

Gordon Lyons with another double double of 25 points and game high 13 rebounds to lead the Knights in both categories.

Connor Fedge with 16 points 4 rebounds and 4 assists.

Matt Curry had 10 point and 5 rebounds.  Andy Drescher had 7 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals off the bench.

James McKenna had 6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

The Knights shot 46% from the field (24x 52), 25% from 3 point range (3x12) and 65% from the line (15x23) They had 36 rebounds to 31 for the Lakers and 11 turnovers to 10 for Oswego.

The Lakers shot 40 % from the field (24x59) 27.8% from long range (5x18 and 90% from the stripe (9x10).

Brian Sortino led Oswego and captured scoring honors for the game with 26 points.

Daniel Ross had 12 points,  7 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal.

Kyle Covley had 10 points

Rashawn Powell had 8 points, 9 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks.

Geneseo improves to 10-2 overall and moves into sole possession of 2nd place in the YAC with a 4-1 record. The Knights are back in action Tuesday when they host Fredonia and then travel east to face New Paltz and Oneonta.

Oswego falls into a 3 way tie for 5th place with Cortland and Buffalo State with a 4-4 record in the YAC, They fall to 10-5 overall and travel east to New Paltz on Tuesday to face the Hawks. Then a week later it's  off in the other direction as they head west to tackle Buffalo State on the 28th.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 19, 2014, 08:08:21 AM
Back to the 18 games YAC schedule discussion. I favor trying to bring all the SUNY teams into an East-West divisional conference and having a playoff at the end. Why have SUNY schools in other conferences? Bring back Morrisville, IT, Purchase and any other school I missed. You could have a 15 game SUNY schedule and 10 non-conference schedule to play these so-called "D3 high level" conferences games. That would allow a Bport and Geneseo to continue their Rochester area Wendy's Tourney, and allow other SUNY schools to participate in their individual local tourneys. Any other suggestions or thoughts on this issue?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2014, 08:30:15 AM
Buffalo State 81 Fredonia 74

The Bengals started slow and finished even slower yet in between they scored just enough points to walk out of Steele hall with a W. They let the Blue Devils open up an early 19-10 lead and Fredonia held onto that edge until there was less than 8 minutes left in the half. The boys from Buffalo finally got untracked however and outscored the opposition with a 21 to 5 run that brought them into the lead at 31-24. They increased their advantage to 8 points at 39-31 before the Blue Devils closed the gap to a 39-34 halftime score.

The Bengals continued to let Fredonia hang around and every time they opened up a little daylight the Blue Devils would close to within a  point or two. Finally, halfway through the 2nd period, the Bengals, up by 5 at 53-48, used 5 points from Chris Thompson and 4 free throws from Justin Mitchell to extend their advantage to 12 points, which would be the largest lead of the game. With 8 minutes remaining the Bengals looked to be in firm control of the game as the lead remained in double digits, but just like the beginning of the game, Buffalo State's offense disappeared and the Blue Devils took advantage. Still down by 11 points with 3:23 left in the game, Fredonia ran off the next 7 points and narrowed the gap to 4 points with 1:28 to play. Seconds later the Bengals committed yet another turnover but Fredonia didn't capitalize as they returned the favor with 64 seconds left. They had to foul and the Bengals made 1 of 2 at the line. The Blue Devils needing to come up big on the next possession missed a layup, got the rebound, turned it over, got it back on a steal and turned it over again. They fouled Chris Thompson and he made them both to open up a 7 point lead with 26 seconds left and this one was history.

Justin Mitchell led Buffalo State with 20 points, 8 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

Chris Thompson had 17 points, 5 rebounds, 3 steals and a block.

Rod Epps had 16 points, 3 rebounds, 4 steals and 1 assist.

Brad Doyley had 8 points, 6 assists and 3 rebounds.

Legree Kirkland with 9 points, 8 rebounds and a steal.

Bengals shot 46% from the field, 25% from 3 point range and 73% from the line. They won the battle off the glass 35-25 and had 16 turnovers to 19 for the Blue Devils. Freds shot 51% from the field, 32% from long range and 52 % from the line.

Fredonia had 3 players in double figures led by Tyrone Clark who led all scorers with 24 points. He added 6 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Eric Zwierlein had 21 points, 4 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block and 1 assist.

Robert Lyles had 16 points 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

Xavier Mann came off the bench and had 3 points, 3 assists, 3 steals, 2 rebounds and a block.

The Bengals evened their conference record at 3-3 and improved to 7-6 overall. They travel to Brockport on Tuesday, the 21st to face a Golden Eagle team that has won the last 5 meetings. Then they host the North Country contingent of Plattsburgh and Potsdam on the weekend.

Fredonia continues to search for a win in the SUNYAC as they fall to 0-6. They are 3-10 overall. They at least have some company at the bottom of the standings as the Potsdam State Bears are also 0-6. These 2 teams will match up next Friday to see who can break into the win column. With Fredonia meeting Geneseo on the road  this Tuesday, and Potsdam traveling over to Plattsburgh on the same night, I see both clubs still winless when their showdown comes on the 24th.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 19, 2014, 08:08:21 AM
Back to the 18 games YAC schedule discussion. I favor trying to bring all the SUNY teams into an East-West divisional conference and having a playoff at the end. Why have SUNY schools in other conferences? Bring back Morrisville, IT, Purchase and any other school I missed. You could have a 15 game SUNY schedule and 10 non-conference schedule to play these so-called "D3 high level" conferences games. That would allow a Bport and Geneseo to continue their Rochester area Wendy's Tourney, and allow other SUNY schools to participate in their individual local tourneys. Any other suggestions or thoughts on this issue?

scooter,
I don't think Morrisville or SUNYIT wants to play in the SUNYAC again. It's not like we kicked them out. They chose to leave for life on the easier side of the tracks. They couldn't win enough, playing in the YAC, so they sought out softer conferences (which they found) in hopes of winning the automatic bid. (which they have) I'd be surprised if they ever came back no matter how the YAC was aligned.
One of the biggest jokes of the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll was the inclusion of SUNY-Morrisville in the #20 spot. They are 6-6 overall and 3-3 in a conference that Massey Ratings has listed as the 3rd worst in the country.  They probably wouldn't finish any higher than 8th in our conference this year and possibly as low as 11th. (Since we would have 11 teams if they were in the YAC) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2014, 10:57:31 AM
Let me tell you something about Fredonia ( and you can quote me). Phil Seymour is putting something together that should pay great dividends in the future. That undermanned squad played tough from start to finish. A number of those players are playing more minutes than they could have imagined. Take for instance, Zwierlien. This kid hit 5 threes, scored 21 and played Christhompson tough all day. Before yesterday he, Zweirlein, had scored 30 points TOTAL on the season and had 4 treys TOTAL on the season ( 12 games).

I believe that those kids are learning a new system and as they continue to buy in ( some don't and probably quit), I believe that the Blue Devils are gonna be 1 devil of a team to beat!

Speaking of tough competition, Brockport is next for my beloved BENGALS! Nuff said!!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2014, 11:53:40 AM
New Paltz 66 Potsdam 64

The Bears almost pulled off the upset in Hawk Center but a missed layup with 48 seconds left and failure to get a defensive rebound on the next possession, not once but three times (one was a block), enabled the Hawks to let out one big sigh of relief when the final buzzer sounded. Potsdam hung around for most of this game as they were only down by 8 points at the break. Too many times this year it's been a big number in the deficit department heading into the 2nd half.

The Bears couldn't cut into the halftime deficit and instead it slowly went in the other direction as the Hawks increased their advantage to double figures, then 12, and then their largest lead of 14 points with 11 minutes left in the game. The lead shifted from 8-12 points over the next 5 minutes and then, down by 7, the Bears got a pair of jumpers from Rob Duquette, a layup from Zac Adams, and another jump shot from Joe Estramonte. Suddenly the 14 point advantage was down to 2 and the game was up for grabs. A Taylor Sowah layup made it a 2 possession game again, but Estramonte hit a pair of free throws  and Sowah made it a 3 point lead when he canned 1 of 2 from the line. Adams got loose inside for another layup to cut it to a single point at 65-64 with 1:34 on the clock.
New Paltz then missed a 3 point attempt on their possession and Potsdam came down with plenty of time left, 69 seconds, to work for the go ahead score. That's when the missed layup I started this article with took place followed by the 3 offensive rebounds that the Hawks managed to corral. The Bears had to foul and they did so, but too much time had run off the clock and when the Hawks made 1 of 2 from the line the Bears grabbed the rebound and took a time out. With 2.7 seconds left the Bears raced down the court and fired up a 3 pointer that didn't go in.

Hawks were led by Nick Taldi with 15 points and 3 rebounds. Taylor Sowah had 14 points and 6 rebounds. Andrew Seniul had 11 points, 4 rebounds 2 assists and a block.

Potsdam's Rob Duquette grabbed scoring honors with 17 points and was also the leading rebounder in the game with 11. He also recorded a game high 4 blocked shots. Zac Adams had 16 points, 4 rebounds, 3blocks, 2 assists and 2 steals. Brandon Williams had 9 points and 6 boards, while Rishawd Hendricks had 9 points as well.

The stats were fairly even in this game as the Bears shot 43% 19% and 64% from the field ,long range and from the stripe.

The Hawks shot 40% fg, 25% 3's, and 68 % ft. Both teams had 36 rebounds and the Bears had 12 turnovers while the Hawks had 13.

New Paltz picks up their 3rd win in the YAC and are alone in 8th place with a 3-4 record. The improve to 6-8 overall. Three playoff  contenders are in line to visit the Hawk Center starting with Oswego on Tuesday the 21st, followed by Geneseo and Brockport who come in on the weekend.

Potsdam falls to 2-11 and 0-6 in the conference. They travel to Plattsburgh on Tuesday, then west to Fredonia on Friday for the battle of the beatens,  then Buffalo State on Saturday.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2014, 12:18:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2014, 10:57:31 AM
Let me tell you something about Fredonia ( and you can quote me). Phil Seymour is putting something together that should pay great dividends in the future. That undermanned squad played tough from start to finish. A number of those players are playing more minutes than they could have imagined. Take for instance, Zwierlien. This kid hit 5 threes, scored 21 and played Christhompson tough all day. Before yesterday he, Zweirlein, had scored 30 points TOTAL on the season and had 4 treys TOTAL on the season ( 12 games).

I believe that those kids are learning a new system and as they continue to buy in ( some don't and probably quit), I believe that the Blue Devils are gonna be 1 devil of a team to beat!

Speaking of tough competition, Brockport is next for my beloved BENGALS! Nuff said!!

Go BENGALS!!

What you are saying may be true but I watched them play Brockport on Tuesday and they were absolutely destroyed by the Golden Eagles who more than doubled the Blue Devils score. Fredonia only had (gulp!!) 13 points at halftime. They didn't look good, they shot terrible, 3x22 in the 1st half from the field (13.6%), 1x8 from distance (12.5%) and 6x13 from the line (46.2%). They turned the ball over 13 times and couldn't stop anyone if they were guarding them in an elevator. Eagles shot 63% from the field and 58% from distance. That tells me that if I'm wrong, and  Fredonia is as good as you're telling me they are,  then your Bengals are in for one heluva whooping by the Golden Eagles on Tuesday. ;D

And who knows...you may be the first YAC team (other than Brockport) to play a Top 25 team this season, if the Golden Eagles, on the strength of another undefeated week, move into the Top 25. I'm not holding my breath for that to happen though. :o       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 19, 2014, 04:01:52 PM
The Bears played their Blank off yesterday down by 10 most of the second half.  Went on a run only to fall short on a couple of shots that rolled around the rim.  Maybe they aren't at the top but they still came to play and never gave up.  Almost 1981' heroics but the ball rimmed out.  Keep your heads high.  Go Bears
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 19, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
Magicman.....have you noticed on the hoop board that seeks teams for next season's tournies, etc.....that Hamilton of the NESCAC...present bottom tier BB member but up and coming team with a HBC from your ranks, I believe....are looking for teams to play.  Maybe, just maybe, your conference can get some notice by pounding on a "CAC" team.
Just a thought.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2014, 06:51:48 PM
amh63,

I have spoken with Coach Stockwell on occasion and when he went to Hamilton several years ago I mentioned to him that we should get a home and home series started. Before Coach Stockwell was a coach at Oswego State, he was the coach at Clarkson College. Every year we would play Clarkson, one year going there and the next year they would come here. Then of course when Coach Stockwell moved on to Oswego we automatically traveled to each others' house as part of conference play. That's why when he took the Hamilton job and with all the non-conference games they need to fill out a schedule I thought it was the perfect scenario for both schools. Hamilton has always had a decent program even when they were in the Liberty League. The two coaches knew each other, so that was a positive. However, they were willing to play us down there, not so willing to travel up here the next year. :(   I keep hoping that might change.

Anyway Amh63, as you yourself so kindly pointed out the other day, the SUNYAC did some pounding on the NESCAC this year. Hamilton played 3 teams in the SUNYAC this year and won 1 and lost 2. Plus Middlebury lost to Plattsburgh. We were 3-1 against the NESCAC. 3-0 against the CCIW, 1-0 against the WIAC, 2-0 against the SCIAC, 1-0 against the NWC and 1-0 against UAA just to name a few. ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 20, 2014, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 19, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
scooter,
I don't think Morrisville or SUNYIT wants to play in the SUNYAC again. It's not like we kicked them out. They chose to leave for life on the easier side of the tracks. They couldn't win enough, playing in the YAC, so they sought out softer conferences (which they found) in hopes of winning the automatic bid. (which they have) I'd be surprised if they ever came back no matter how the YAC was aligned.
One of the biggest jokes of the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll was the inclusion of SUNY-Morrisville in the #20 spot. They are 6-6 overall and 3-3 in a conference that Massey Ratings has listed as the 3rd worst in the country.  They probably wouldn't finish any higher than 8th in our conference this year and possibly as low as 11th. (Since we would have 11 teams if they were in the YAC)

Yup, all because of their sweet 16 appearance last season.  Beating Ramapo was good, but the NJAC seems to always exit early (Patterson vs. Albertus a few years earlier comes to mind), and than beating Rhode Island College in Providence was good as well................except RIC was an awful team offensively last year.  Sure, they were great on defense, but they were equally as bad if not worse on the offensive end, so them winning that game isn't that surprising either.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2014, 02:00:44 AM
Quote from: 7express on January 20, 2014, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 19, 2014, 08:50:23 AM
scooter,
I don't think Morrisville or SUNYIT wants to play in the SUNYAC again. It's not like we kicked them out. They chose to leave for life on the easier side of the tracks. They couldn't win enough, playing in the YAC, so they sought out softer conferences (which they found) in hopes of winning the automatic bid. (which they have) I'd be surprised if they ever came back no matter how the YAC was aligned.
One of the biggest jokes of the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll was the inclusion of SUNY-Morrisville in the #20 spot. They are 6-6 overall and 3-3 in a conference that Massey Ratings has listed as the 3rd worst in the country.  They probably wouldn't finish any higher than 8th in our conference this year and possibly as low as 11th. (Since we would have 11 teams if they were in the YAC)

Yup, all because of their sweet 16 appearance last season.  Beating Ramapo was good, but the NJAC seems to always exit early (Patterson vs. Albertus a few years earlier comes to mind), and than beating Rhode Island College in Providence was good as well................except RIC was an awful team offensively last year.  Sure, they were great on defense, but they were equally as bad if not worse on the offensive end, so them winning that game isn't that surprising either.


In fact the NJAC has been represented by Ramapo (2), Willie Paterson (2), Richard Stockton, New Jersey City, and Rutgers-Newark (2)  in the past 4 years. All resulting in 1st round exits.

In 2009-10 William Paterson lost to Albertus Magnus 57-55 in the 1st round

In 2010-11 Ramapo lost to Johnson and Wales (RI) 114-106 in the 1st round

IN 2010-11 New Jersey City lost to Cabrini 85-76 in the 1st round

In 2010-11 Richard Stockton lost to Virginia Wesleyan 85-82 in the 1st round

In 2010-11 Rutgers-Newark lost to Rhode Island College 72-60 in the 1st round

In 2011-12 William Paterson lost to Becker 69-53 in the 1st round

In 2012-13 Ramapo lost to Morrisville State 86-78 in the 1st round.

In 2012-13 Rutgers-Newark lost to Christopher Newport in the 1st round

Prior to those four years

In 2008-09 Richard Stockton made it to the Final Four and lost in the National Championship game to Washington U. 61-52

In 2007-08 Richard Stockton lost in the Sweet 16 to Amherst 85-77 in Plattsburgh. I saw that game and the potential that was there for the run to the finals the next year.

Edit:  Added 4 more teams using Gordon Mann's Guidebook that Pat recommended. A valuable resource, indeed, and one that I have in my favorites file, but keep forgetting that I do. Thanks for the reminder Pat.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 20, 2014, 10:30:15 AM
You're actually missing other first-round exits by NJAC teams in that time frame -- it's worse than that!

Gordon Mann's Guidebook is the ideal resource for this:

http://www.d3hoops.com/guidebook/index

NJAC starts on page 79.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 19, 2014, 12:18:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2014, 10:57:31 AM
Let me tell you something about Fredonia ( and you can quote me). Phil Seymour is putting something together that should pay great dividends in the future. That undermanned squad played tough from start to finish. A number of those players are playing more minutes than they could have imagined. Take for instance, Zwierlien. This kid hit 5 threes, scored 21 and played Christhompson tough all day. Before yesterday he, Zweirlein, had scored 30 points TOTAL on the season and had 4 treys TOTAL on the season ( 12 games).

I believe that those kids are learning a new system and as they continue to buy in ( some don't and probably quit), I believe that the Blue Devils are gonna be 1 devil of a team to beat!

Speaking of tough competition, Brockport is next for my beloved BENGALS! Nuff said!!

Go BENGALS!!

What you are saying may be true but I watched them play Brockport on Tuesday and they were absolutely destroyed by the Golden Eagles who more than doubled the Blue Devils score. Fredonia only had (gulp!!) 13 points at halftime. They didn't look good, they shot terrible, 3x22 in the 1st half from the field (13.6%), 1x8 from distance (12.5%) and 6x13 from the line (46.2%). They turned the ball over 13 times and couldn't stop anyone if they were guarding them in an elevator. Eagles shot 63% from the field and 58% from distance. That tells me that if I'm wrong, and  Fredonia is as good as you're telling me they are,  then your Bengals are in for one heluva whooping by the Golden Eagles on Tuesday. ;D

And who knows...you may be the first YAC team (other than Brockport) to play a Top 25 team this season, if the Golden Eagles, on the strength of another undefeated week, move into the Top 25. I'm not holding my breath for that to happen though. :o       

Whoa there ponder!!  Please don't take my compliments of a "tough and hard playing" Fredonia team to mean anything other than that. For a squad that has more players on the floor than they do on the bench, from what I saw Saturday, they still haven't quit playing hard. Im not sure who has done well against Brockport, other than the Cards and Purchase. I imagine that there have been other teams besides Fredonia that have had a rough go at it when playing Brockport. Do I expect the BENGALS to be in for "one hell of a whooping" tomorrow? ABSOLUTLY NOT! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(. I expect the BENGALS to win tomorrow (as I expect them to win every game that they play in). What's even better...they, the BENGALS, expect to win too! If there is a BENGAL that doesn't expect to win then I am sure Coach Ansari will tell that player to stay at home and don't bother making the trip!

I do expect them the BENGALS to bring their  "A game" tomorrow and then let the chips fall where they may!  ;)

Go BENGALS!!

PS I can't wait to see your a-- in Feb!!!!   :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2014, 11:42:05 PM
I expect the Bengals to bring their "A" game tomorrow as well.  8-) I hope they have to do it against a Top 25 team.

I started to write this post around 1 PM today and got sidetracked for the rest of the day.

I had typed that I thought Colorado Colllege and Wheaton would drop out of the Top 25 poll and that Brockport would be one of the teams that would move into the rankings. I did send an email to Brockport's Coach Dunne late yesterday afternoon telling him I wanted to be the first to congratulate him on Brockport's entry into the Top 25. I said I thought they would be ranked 24th or 25th. I knew St Mary's would tumble just wasn't sure how far. They fell far enough to boost Brockport into the 23rd spot.  Now the Golden Eagles have to prove they have some staying power.

Tomorrow's game against Buffalo State could be a tough one for the Eagles. Buffalo State has struggled recently in conference play but they can hang with anybody. Their 2 wins down in Florida over Carthage and North Central were decent wins against 2 teams that have shown an ability to be competitive against anybody. Carthage has defeated 3 ranked teams already this year and North Central played top ranked Stevens Point right down to the final buzzer. Carthage got some points in this week's poll, the first time they've got a mention all year I believe.  The Bengals have 5 straight losses to Brockport and revenge will be a huge motive.  They got back on the winning path over the weekend and now would like to make a statement. Brockport, now a ranked team, gives them the opportunity to do so.

Geneseo was the only other team from the East Region to receive any mention this week and a mention is all it was, as the Knights got a single point.

Here's the link to the complete poll

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/week7

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2014, 05:09:04 AM
In looking over the statistics of last week's games there were a number of fine performances by a number of different players. The three players that stood out the most were John Perez of Plattsburgh, John Ivy of Brockport and Gordon Lyons of Geneseo.

Both Ivy and Lyons had a 3 game week, while Perez only had 2 games. All 3 teams were undefeated last week as well.

Ivy had 2 excellent games on Tuesday and Friday, but ran into foul problems early against Cortland on Saturday. 2:36 after the start of the game John found himself on the bench with 2 fouls and didn't return until the 2nd half. His 1st half stat line consisted of 2 turnovers
and 2 fouls. He only scored 11 points in the game with 1 rebound but they all came in the 2nd period. He had a 2nd half that most players would take for full game totals.


Gordon Lyons had 2 outstanding games as well with 28 points and 9 boards in a win over Buffalo State. He followed that up with a 14 point, 7 rebound game against Cortland and closed out the week with a 25 point, 13 rebound game against Oswego.

John Perez opened with a career high of 28 points (9x15 fg, 10x13 ft) against New Paltz and added 6 rebounds, 5 assists and a block. The next day he continued to have a hot hand as he went 9x13 from the field to score 22 pts with 8 rebounds and 2 assists. For the week John shot 18x28 from the field (64.2%) and 14x19 from the line (73,6%) He had a total of 50 points for a 25 ppg average and had 14 rebounds for a 7.0 rpg average. He also had 7 assists.

By a slim margin John Perez gets my vote as the Player of the Week, and of course I am slightly biased as John plays for my Cardinals. Both of the other candidates could get the award when it's released later today and I wouldn't have a problem with that but I'm voting for John because of the outstanding week that he had and for all the things he does that don't show up on the stat sheet. Nobody plays harder than JP.   

I think both of the other players had a game that was not up to their typical standards, (and Ivy's was because of the foul problems and his lack of floor time, not because he played badly). I think John Ivy's POTW will be after the games that he plays this week, as I see him putting together 3 huge games. 

Lyons only scoring 14 points is a victory for the defense by the other team. I'd gladly pencil him in for 14 if I knew that would be his total for the night. It's usually 10 to 15 points higher than that. Plus Lyons was the POTW back in December, so it's spread the wealth time.

Hopefully I can come back on this board later today and congratulate one of these players but I've got my fingers crossed that it's John Perez.

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on January 21, 2014, 07:39:46 AM
Brockport finally gets some love.  Great job finally getting into the top 25.  I have learned something from these post.  The performance of a school is based on the performance of a conference in past tournaments not on the merits of the team in a new year.  Last time I checked each individual is only given 4 years to play unless a situation arises that is unique to the individual so then why are we judging on past performances.  I was told not to live in the 80's when Potsdam was sent on the road during their last run to the sweet 16.  Why should Brockport be punished because of what other school teams in the conference have done in the past.  I guess we should just play the games and see what happens.  Brockport bring it home and prove the naysayers wrong.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 21, 2014, 09:25:45 AM
Interested to see tonight's Buff State- Brockport matchup. Buff St is reaching the crossroads of their season with their back to back matchups against the (IMO) the two best teams in the conference while being right at the border of the playoff standings. Will Brockport rest on the laurels after finally reaching the top 25? Should be a good one tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 21, 2014, 10:07:10 AM
Magic man....read your  post on the CAC board.  Could you let me know how you made your pledge...name wise...real or board handle.  Thinking about adding something to your pledge so to ensure the host wears your school T-shirt and get your HBC on the air to plead your case.  Has the school coach been on ?  Personal message will be ok.  Home phone is 301-869 3874.   Some Vandy and Midhoops payback somewhere in here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 21, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
Quote from: bearnation on January 21, 2014, 07:39:46 AM
Brockport finally gets some love.  Great job finally getting into the top 25.  I have learned something from these post.  The performance of a school is based on the performance of a conference in past tournaments not on the merits of the team in a new year. 

That, of course, is not true either. The truth is there's an element of both in there and if your conference doesn't perform in March it's hard to just use conference performance as a barometer.

It's not a matter of Brockport being punished for past SUNYAC performances -- it's a matter of Brockport not being rewarded for them. Being the best team in an East Region that is about 1/12th of Division III doesn't necessarily mean a lot.

You guys may be remember the coaches used to do their Top 20 poll back in the day. Rather than ask their coaches to make difficult decisions about who was better than whom across regions, they just took the NCAA regional poll and shuffled it together. A voter was required to place the top team from each region in the Top 10 of his ballot, no matter what. So an Atlantic and an East (and back then, a South) team was always ranked highly, regardless of whether that was deserved. Our poll doesn't work that way.

Vestiges of that policy remain in the NABC All-American team, which is eight players, one from each region. Why should any region be limited to three All-American players? (Last year we named four East players, for example.)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
All ten teams in action tonight should make for an interesting evening.


Fredonia State   at    Geneseo State      8:00 PM

Fredonia on a losing streak and still looking for their 1st win in the conference. Geneseo will see to it that they won't find it tonight. Teams are fairly even over the past nine games with the Knights holding a 5-4 edge. But Geneseo has won the last 3 and last year they were both by double digits. I see that happening  again and so doesn't the oddsmakers as the Knights are favored by a whopping 23 points. That margin may not be large enough as the Blue Devils average loss on the road has been by 26.6 points and only 1 of those teams, Brockport (won by 50), was as good as Geneseo.  Final score Geneseo 87 Fredonia 60, but it could be worse.

   
   
Oswego State  at   New Paltz State      8:00 PM

Ten days ago on January 11th, the Lakers were 4-1 and sitting all alone in 2nd place behind Brockport. I don't think they saw themselves at 4-4, in a tie for 5th place, with a 3 game conference losing streak on January 21st. Especially when one of those games was against a team they hadn't lost to, on any court, in 13 years. And tonight they face that same team, on the road, and a loss could leave them in 8th place. New Paltz couldn't keep up with the Cardinals over the weekend and almost blew the game against the Bears after leading by 14 points midway through the 2nd half. If the Hawks have hopes of making the playoffs, this is a must win game for them. The point spread gives the edge to the invading Lakers by 4, as the oddsmakers feel the revenge factor is quite prominent, since the last game was only a week ago. I don't think the Hawks will have to wait 13 years for their next win over Oswego, but I don't think they can win 2 in a row either...at least not at this time. Lakers split the season series and walk out of the Hawk Center with a 79-71 victory.
       
   
Cortland State   at   Oneonta State      8:00 PM    The Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Battle of the Red Dragons: The Sequel    If that sounds like Hollywood Hype, that's because it is. Visit the Red Dragons' website (the Oneonta variety) and that's what greets you in full page glory (minus the sequel bit). But then the Oneonta Red Dragons won the first round of this years' fire breathing spectacle, by draining 15 three pointers, to steal a win in overtime at Corey Gym. They are feeling their oats after ending a 5 game losing streak to the Cortland club. Cortland, after 2 years at or near the top of the standings, find themselves in a 5th place tie with Oswego and like the Lakers a loss could send them as far down as 8th place by the end of the day. Despite losing to Oneonta in the first matchup and playing on the road, the oddsmakers have made Cortland a slim 1 point favorite. This will be the Kevin McMahon show versus the Zach Mager show as 2 of the top scorers in the conference go at it once again. McMahon won the first battle but Mager's team won the war. They say that revenge is a dish, best served cold, but with all the heat emanating from these fire breathers, the only thing cold, tonight in Oneonta, will be the cars in the parking lot after the game. Inside Dewar Arena it will be RED HOT as the Cortland Red Dragons even the season series  and start a new winning streak by a score of 73-70.
   
         
   
Potsdam State  at  Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM

The North Country rivals meet for the first time this season and the teams are headed in opposite directions. The Bears have yet to win a conference game and could be headed for the worst record in the history of this once proud program. Potsdam has lost 10 straight conference games dating back to last year and they come into this contest with an overall record of 2-11. The return of big man Rob Duquette from a December knee injury has beefed up the offense and helped in the rebounding department but hasn't translated into many wins as the Bears are 1-4 since he re-entered the starting lineup. They were swept by the Cardinals last year and have lost 7 of the last 8 games against Plattsburgh. The Cardinals are coming off a pair of conference wins last weekend and have moved into the thick of the race with a 4-2 conference mark. They are presently in sole possession of 4th place and could find themselves all alone in 2nd place by the end of the day. The good news for the Cardinals, that spells trouble for the Bears, is that leading scorer, Shamoy McIntosh, will be back in action after missing most of last weekend with a minor injury. The Cardinals have been firing on all cylinders lately, as 1 or more players have set new career highs in the past 5 games. With 4 starters scoring in double figures Plattsburgh has a number of options that can take over a game. The oddsmakers favor the Cardinals by the largest spread of the night at 27 points. The Bears have lost nearly every conference game by large double digit margins, with the exception of their most recent loss, a 66-64 setback at New Paltz last Saturday. I don't think tonight will be any different.  Final score Plattsburgh 86 Potsdam 62.

         
   
Buffalo State  at   #23 Brockport State      8:00 PM      The Co-Featured Game of the Day

Fresh off their entry into the D3hoops Top 25 the Golden Eagles face an old rival that would like nothing more than to steal some Brockport thunder. I'm sure the Bengals faithful are as happy as I am that a SUNYAC team made it into the national rankings. Positive things occur for the entire conference when one of our teams receives nationwide recognition. Having said that, the Bengals will be trying as hard as they can, to hit the bullseye,  that's now been painted on the Golden Eagles back. Losers of 5 straight games to the Eagles over the past 2 years, the Bengal faithful want to see this series get turned around like it was in the 2010-11 season when Buffalo State defeated Brockport 3 times that year.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a rather large 17 point favorite. At first glance this looks to be too many points but the last two regular season trips that Buffalo State has made to Brockport have resulted in a 94-70 loss 2 years ago and a 97-81 loss last year when the Bengals invaded Tuttle North Gym. The Bengals did manage to keep another recent visit under double figures when they lost in the playoffs to the Eagles 89-83 in 2011-12. Tonight's contest could feature as many as 4 All Conference performers going at each other with Brockport's excellent backcourt of John Ivy and Brandon Caruthers leading the charge for the Eagles. The Bengals will counter with  forward Justin Mitchell and guard Rod Epps. Brockport is a solid team from top to bottom. Not many teams in the YAC can bring in a 7 footer off the bench that can be effective. I watched the Eagles go toe to toe with my Cardinals in Plattsburgh and I was impressed. That 7 footer, Patrick Coyle, made the play of the game, in my opinion, went he tipped in a missed free throw by Brockport that gave them a 78-77 lead, instead of Plattsburgh having the ball and the lead, with 2:35 left in the game. That play changed the dynamics of the next play (since the made basket by Coyle allowed substitutions that wouldn't have occurred if the Cards had just grabbed the rebound) which resulted in a steal and a dunk that gave the Eagles a 3 point lead along with the momentum to salt the game away. And what can you say about Ivy. He's a preseason All American for a reason. His 7 consecutive points in 58 seconds to personally lift the Eagles from a 75-68 deficit into a tie was a thing of beauty (if you were a Brockport fan, not so much from my vantage point :'() 

Buffalo State has an All American caliber player of their own in Justin Mitchell. Already named to the D3hoops Team of the Week earlier in the season Justin can bring it with the best of them. He went toe to toe with 1st Team Preseason All American center, Landon Gamble, from North Central College last month and had 18 pts, 5 rebounds and a block in that game. Gamble had 18 pts 4 rebounds and a steal. Justin was 6x9 fg, 1x1 3's, 5x6 ft, had 1 turnover and 3 fouls. Gamble was 7x12 fg, 4x5 ft, had 4 turnovers and fouled out. Buff State won the game 80-72 and Justin's 6 points in the final few minutes were crucial in the Bengals' win.

So there you have it the Co-featured Game of the Night. Despite the large pointspread, I have a feeling this game will be closer than 17 points. A coach I know said "the Bengals are scary... they have as much talent as anyone in the league and can beat anyone by 20 on any night." I can't pick them to go into Tuttle North however, and knock off the Golden Eagles. If the game was in the big house in Buffalo it might be different, although with Port's road record this year it might not matter. I have to go with Brockport by a score of 89-82.                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2014, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on January 21, 2014, 09:25:45 AM
Interested to see tonight's Buff State- Brockport matchup. Buff St is reaching the crossroads of their season with their back to back matchups against the (IMO) the two best teams in the conference while being right at the border of the playoff standings. Will Brockport rest on the laurels after finally reaching the top 25? Should be a good one tonight.
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Well put there Hoops. Tonights game is all that and a bag of chips! I wouldnt miss this 1 for the world! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 21, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
With the Regional Rankingscoming out here soon. Here's how i think they will look like!
1. Brockport State 11-1 Overall 5-0 Conference SOS 60
2. Plattsburgh State 10-3 Overall 4-2 Conference SOS 40
3. Geneseo State 10-2 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 173
4. New York University 11-3 Overall 1-2 Conference SOS 195
5. Hobart 10-4 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 179
6. St John Fisher 10-5 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 189

In contention, Nazareth, Stevens, Oneonta, Hartwick, Oswego State, Skidmore.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
Here's a copy of a post I did for the NESCAC board. I just substituted SUNYAC for NESCAC and New York and the East Region for New England


I don't know how many posters on this page watch Hoopsville. Maybe some of you do so on a regular basis, maybe you only do so when a SUNYAC coach is on, or just the coach of the team you support, but it is a great place to enhance your D3 knowledge about what's going on in other parts of the country.  If you can't watch it when it airs, usually on Thursday and Sunday nights you can always replay it at a more convenient time. You can find the links on the front page.   

Dave McHugh is currently in the midst of a Hoopsville fundraiser so he can upgrade the equipment, make the video production better, take more road trips and maybe visit a college near you. I know that a lot of people on this board tune in to Hoopsville. I'm sure as D3fans we all would like to see the show continue and improve. We now have the opportunity to help out with a contribution that will benefit us all. Kind of like a public television contribution.

There are different levels at which one can contribute and Dave has offered some perks for each level. I chose the slam dunk level, since my size, as Bengalsrule, thebear, Vandy and middhoops will attest, has prevented me from ever getting one of those in a game. But whatever level you choose remember this: As fans of D3 basketball we're all better off because Hoopsville exists. I wouldn't want Dave to have to close up shop. None of us will benefit if that happens. I remember not so long ago that the D3hoops site crashed one night and it took a day or so before Pat and staff could put the pieces back together. The D3 world, from coast to coast, was in mourning and some of us were downright strung out, because we didn't have access to the one place we could go to and no one knew what was going on. A huge sigh of relief was heard when the site was up and running again and posters all over the place were stating the obvious...what would happen if there were no more D3hoops to go to?

Well that's kind of how I feel about Hoopsville. So lets all pitch in, from the posters down in the DC and Virginia area that love their NESCAC teams, to the posters out west who still come on the boards and tune into Hoopsville. Then of course, there's all the fans in the New York and East Region that could make a huge impact if they all gave a contribution at just the $10.00 level. That's less than you'd spend if you bought Dave a couple of drinks at the local watering hole if he showed up at your gym to do a live interview with your coach. 

Think about it fellow posters but don't take too long. The Hoopsville Fundraising Project runs from now through February 9th, 2014

Here's the link to the page that will enable you to choose the amount you wish to contribute:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hoopsville-fundraising-project

Thanks for your attention, now back to our regularly scheduled program.

PS: In looking at the list of posters that have already made contributions to the cause I see one name that stands out from this board.  Young Mr. dtrainderrick.cahill,  author of the post about the regional rankings right above this post,  who chose to contribute at the same level that I did... the Slam Dunk. Derrick must have been saving his allowance for a good cause and jumped on the Hoopsville bandwagon. Good for him. Now if some of the rest of you fellows would make a contribution so dtrain doesn't show this board up. ;D It doesn't have to be a big amount, lots of $10.00 contributions add up to a sizable amount. I heard Bengalsrule was going to start the ball rolling. ???

To view the list of contributors just click on the  "funders" link at the right side of the page. Both of my new friends from the NESCAC board  middhoops and Vandy74 also heard the call. Good job boys. You don't have to list your name or the amount you contribute if you so desire. The link is pretty self explanatory and they take charge cards. ;D How about it posters and lurkers lets help Dave out so Hoopsville gets better. It's a win win situation for Dave and us. 8-)           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2014, 07:35:40 PM
Gordon Lyons was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. I knew it was probably between him or John Perez.  Either one was deserving.

Lyons was the SUNYAC's choice.     Perez was mine I like mine better. ;D

Here's the YAC write up on Gordon:

Lyons' hot shooting led the Knights to three SUNYAC victories last week. Finishing the week shooting almost 70 percent from the floor, he averaged 22.3 points and 9.7 rebounds for the Knights. He led the way with a 25-point, 13-rebound performance for his seventh double-double of the season as the Knights dug out of an early 15-point deficit at Oswego. He also finished one point shy of his career high with 28 points in a win over Buffalo State.

Here's the magicman's write up on John:

John Perez opened with a career high of 28 points (9x15 fg, 10x13 ft) against New Paltz and added 6 rebounds, 5 assists and a block. The next day he continued to have a hot hand as he went 9x13 from the field to score 22 pts with 8 rebounds and 2 assists. For the week John shot 18x28 from the field (64.2%) and 14x19 from the line (73,6%) He had a total of 50 points for a 25 ppg average and had 14 rebounds for a 7.0 rpg average. He also had 7 assists.

Good week for both players.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2014, 10:40:39 PM
Final scores:

Plattsburgh 73  Potsdam 58   I had this one 86-62 Plattsburgh. If the Cardinals could make a layup we'd a scored at least 86 Close with
                                           the Bears total

Oswego 64  New Paltz 52       I picked Oswego 79-71  New Paltz shot poorly, Oswego didn't make a single 3 pointer. ??? Must be the
                                            cold weather. Nobody could heat up much less get hot. ;D

Brockport 84 Buffalo State 69  Game of the night, I had Brockport 89-82. Too much  Poison  John Ivy. Just 35 points tonight

Geneseo 79  Fredonia 63     I took the Knights 87-60 Blue Devils kept it respectable.

Cortland 72  Oneonta 67     My other game of the night. I had the Cortland variety winning the Battle of the Red Dragons 73-70 in a
                                         thriller. It was a thriller and I was close, completing a 5 for 5 night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2014, 10:39:29 AM
Too much "poisonIvy" is right.  Had no answer for him in a game that started so well for the Bengals. Coach Faj tinkered with the starting line up and we came out up 10-2. Just couldn't keep it going. Even in the 2nd half when down by 6 midway thru, we foul a shooter then get called for a tech then turn the ball over inbounding  it and 6 points disadvantage turns to 12 down before we knew what happened! >:(

Congrats to Brockport for a well played game from start to finish. A 1-4 road trip ain't the way to make it to the postseason. Now we have 5 in arow at home plus the students are coming back this weekend, so I am encouraged. Especially if we can go 5-4 for the first half of the Yac season! Clearly that's a big IF with the mighty Cards coming to town Friday night! I know I definitely gotta get at least 3 more Blackjack tourney entry fees paid 4 by Friday :) !

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 22, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2014, 04:33:08 PM
Here's a copy of a post I did for the NESCAC board. I just substituted SUNYAC for NESCAC and New York and the East Region for New England


I don't know how many posters on this page watch Hoopsville. Maybe some of you do so on a regular basis, maybe you only do so when a SUNYAC coach is on, or just the coach of the team you support, but it is a great place to enhance your D3 knowledge about what's going on in other parts of the country.  If you can't watch it when it airs, usually on Thursday and Sunday nights you can always replay it at a more convenient time. You can find the links on the front page.   

Dave McHugh is currently in the midst of a Hoopsville fundraiser so he can upgrade the equipment, make the video production better, take more road trips and maybe visit a college near you. I know that a lot of people on this board tune in to Hoopsville. I'm sure as D3fans we all would like to see the show continue and improve. We now have the opportunity to help out with a contribution that will benefit us all. Kind of like a public television contribution.

There are different levels at which one can contribute and Dave has offered some perks for each level. I chose the slam dunk level, since my size, as Bengalsrule, thebear, Vandy and middhoops will attest, has prevented me from ever getting one of those in a game. But whatever level you choose remember this: As fans of D3 basketball we're all better off because Hoopsville exists. I wouldn't want Dave to have to close up shop. None of us will benefit if that happens. I remember not so long ago that the D3hoops site crashed one night and it took a day or so before Pat and staff could put the pieces back together. The D3 world, from coast to coast, was in mourning and some of us were downright strung out, because we didn't have access to the one place we could go to and no one knew what was going on. A huge sigh of relief was heard when the site was up and running again and posters all over the place were stating the obvious...what would happen if there were no more D3hoops to go to?

Well that's kind of how I feel about Hoopsville. So lets all pitch in, from the posters down in the DC and Virginia area that love their NESCAC teams, to the posters out west who still come on the boards and tune into Hoopsville. Then of course, there's all the fans in the New York and East Region that could make a huge impact if they all gave a contribution at just the $10.00 level. That's less than you'd spend if you bought Dave a couple of drinks at the local watering hole if he showed up at your gym to do a live interview with your coach. 

Think about it fellow posters but don't take too long. The Hoopsville Fundraising Project runs from now through February 9th, 2014

Here's the link to the page that will enable you to choose the amount you wish to contribute:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hoopsville-fundraising-project

Thanks for your attention, now back to our regularly scheduled program.

PS: In looking at the list of posters that have already made contributions to the cause I see one name that stands out from this board.  Young Mr. dtrainderrick.cahill,  author of the post about the regional rankings right above this post,  who chose to contribute at the same level that I did... the Slam Dunk. Derrick must have been saving his allowance for a good cause and jumped on the Hoopsville bandwagon. Good for him. Now if some of the rest of you fellows would make a contribution so dtrain doesn't show this board up. ;D It doesn't have to be a big amount, lots of $10.00 contributions add up to a sizable amount. I heard Bengalsrule was going to start the ball rolling. ???

To view the list of contributors just click on the  "funders" link at the right side of the page. Both of my new friends from the NESCAC board  middhoops and Vandy74 also heard the call. Good job boys. You don't have to list your name or the amount you contribute if you so desire. The link is pretty self explanatory and they take charge cards. ;D How about it posters and lurkers lets help Dave out so Hoopsville gets better. It's a win win situation for Dave and us. 8-)           

Thanks for the shoutout Magicman! D3 is a big part of my life as well as everyone else on the Boards!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 22, 2014, 03:05:06 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 21, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
With the Regional Rankingscoming out here soon. Here's how i think they will look like!
1. Brockport State 11-1 Overall 5-0 Conference SOS 60
2. Plattsburgh State 10-3 Overall 4-2 Conference SOS 40
3. Geneseo State 10-2 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 173
4. New York University 11-3 Overall 1-2 Conference SOS 195
5. Hobart 10-4 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 179
6. St John Fisher 10-5 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 189

In contention, Nazareth, Stevens, Oneonta, Hartwick, Oswego State, Skidmore.

Can't argue with this.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 22, 2014, 07:06:54 PM
Going to do another regional ranking in the coming weeks until the actual ranking are released.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2014, 08:30:35 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 21, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
With the Regional Rankingscoming out here soon. Here's how i think they will look like!
1. Brockport State 11-1 Overall 5-0 Conference SOS 60
2. Plattsburgh State 10-3 Overall 4-2 Conference SOS 40
3. Geneseo State 10-2 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 173
4. New York University 11-3 Overall 1-2 Conference SOS 195
5. Hobart 10-4 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 179
6. St John Fisher 10-5 Overall 4-1 Conference SOS 189

In contention, Nazareth, Stevens, Oneonta, Hartwick, Oswego State, Skidmore.

dcahill,
I got the personal message you sent me this afternoon regarding my choices for the regional rankings. I think it's a little too early to project them right now. There are at least two weekends of big games, yet to be played, that could have a major impact on where teams will be ranked.

Plattsburgh State could lose to Buff State this weekend and Oneonta St next weekend and drop like a rock before the first set of rankings is released. Likewise Fisher has to go on the road to play Naz, Stevens, and Hartwick all in the next 10 days. I don't see 3 wins there. Brockport's battle against Geneseo is upcoming as well that could affect some things. I'm still not sold on NYU. They played a fairly soft schedule to get most of those wins. With a loss to Stevens and both UAA teams they played over the weekend, I think they will suffer a few more losses before the the rankings make an appearance. Hobart has a big game coming up against Skidmore this Friday night. If Skidmore wins that, they will have swept Hobart making it less likely the committee would put them over the Thoroughbreds.

I'm just throwing out possiblities and perhaps all the teams on your list will continue to win, in which case they will all probably be ranked, and the order you have them in is the most logical at this time, but too many variables right now.

And speaking of your list, it certainly seems to me like that list came right out of the pages of the Massey Ratings. At least that's the order that Mr. Massey has those East Region teams as you go down his list. You wouldn't be taking a peek at those ratings now would you Derrick?  I know how inaccurate you consider them. ;D     Just funnin with you now...don't take it seriously!  ;)   

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 23, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Haha Honestly Magicman i looked at the SOS from massey not the actual Massey order. SOS looks about right on Massey Ratings. Thanks for your input
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2014, 09:01:25 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 23, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Haha Honestly Magicman i looked at the SOS from massey not the actual Massey order. SOS looks about right on Massey Ratings. Thanks for your input

Hey dcahill.  There's nothing wrong with using Massey as a way of determining where east teams stack up!  It's a very usefull tool and more reliable than magicmans rankings ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2014, 09:01:25 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 23, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Haha Honestly Magicman i looked at the SOS from massey not the actual Massey order. SOS looks about right on Massey Ratings. Thanks for your input

Hey dcahill.  There's nothing wrong with using Massey as a way of determining where east teams stack up!  It's a very usefull tool and more reliable than magicmans rankings ;D

There's a KITTYCAT  in the Queen City that's got a real short memory also. :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2014, 08:33:51 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 23, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2014, 09:01:25 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 23, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
Haha Honestly Magicman i looked at the SOS from massey not the actual Massey order. SOS looks about right on Massey Ratings. Thanks for your input

Hey dcahill.  There's nothing wrong with using Massey as a way of determining where east teams stack up!  It's a very usefull tool and more reliable than magicmans rankings ;D

There's a KITTYCAT  in the Queen City that's got a real short memory also. :o

What in the world could you be talking about? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 24, 2014, 11:40:39 AM
I have been out of the country for the past week and had to catch up on my D3 Hoops--Congrats to my Bport Eagles on their #23 and big win against their rival Bengals. Just keep on winning and everything else will take care of itself. Enjoy the cold weather--LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
Four games on the schedule today in conference play.

Jan. 24 

Geneseo State  at  New Paltz State      8:00 PM   
   
Potsdam State  at  Fredonia State      8:00 PM 
   
Brockport State   at  Oneonta State      8:00 PM 
   
Plattsburgh State  at  Buffalo State      8:00 PM


Predictions to follow a bit later.
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 24, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
Magicman....is this the night to "dial" in on your Cardinals?  Will it be a free broadcast?  I'm pretty tight on such things  :).  Got on Williams and MIT for heavy charges,  Williams would charge 6 bucks just to listen!...   and 10 bucks to see a video.  That is not even adjusted for any adjustments to the coin of the relm even.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: amh63 on January 24, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
Magicman....is this the night to "dial" in on your Cardinals?  Will it be a free broadcast?  I'm pretty tight on such things  :).  Got on Williams and MIT for heavy charges,  Williams would charge 6 bucks just to listen!...   and 10 bucks to see a video.  That is not even adjusted for any adjustments to the coin of the relm even.

Free broadcast live from Buffalo State College! Radio broadcast by Plattsburgh
The video is quite good too!!

I know I'm not Magicman but I didn't want to wait for him to respond and the see his predictions for tonight's game because I know that I'm gonna strongly disagree with 1 of them! >:(

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: amh63 on January 24, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
Magicman....is this the night to "dial" in on your Cardinals?  Will it be a free broadcast?  I'm pretty tight on such things  :).  Got on Williams and MIT for heavy charges,  Williams would charge 6 bucks just to listen!...   and 10 bucks to see a video.  That is not even adjusted for any adjustments to the coin of the relm even.

Free broadcast live from Buffalo State College! Radio broadcast by Plattsburgh
The video is quite good too!!

I know I'm not Magicman but I didn't want to wait for him to respond and the see his predictions for tonight's game because I know that I'm gonna strongly disagree with 1 of them! >:(

Go BENGALS!!

amh63,

Please don't pay any attention to that guy behind the curtain, the one who said he's not magicman. ??? He didn't do his home work. ;D

I will give him an A for effort though. They usually do have a webcast.

Unfortunately there is no video or audio broadcast of the Plattsburgh State-Buffalo State game this evening. Apparently with the school still on semester break there doesn't appear to be anyone to man the cameras.  Live stats seems to be all that's being offered for tonight's contest. :( >:( ::) :P

I came into town to my office thinking I was going to see a barnburner of a game and now will be watching anither game instead.

amh63,

You might want to take a peek at the Brockport State-Oneonta State game if you have a chance. Brockport has a preseason All American on their team, John Ivy who wears uniform #3. The 6'1" guard averages 21 ppg and 5 rpg.

Oneonta has an outstanding player as well Zach Mager who wears uniform # 21. Zach is a 6'2" guard who leads the SUNYAC conference in scoring with 22.3 ppg. He averages 4.3 rebounds per game also.



Here's a link to the video of the Brockport-Oneonta game that starts at 8 PM:

http://www.oneonta.edu/communications/video/qt.asp

Should be a good game but I expect that Brockport will earn the W here. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
Apologies amh63 about the video.  I'm at the arena right now and there is no 1 in the birds nest ! I've been told that since school is closed till Monday our video lady is still in Long Island  :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 08:03:45 PM
Four games on the schedule today in conference play.

Jan. 24 

Geneseo State  at  New Paltz State      8:00 PM

The Knights will look to keep a grip on 2nd place as they toward that make up game with Brockport on February 1st. New Paltz is looking to regain some momentum as they currently sit in 8th place. With the Knights tonight and Brockport arriving in town tomorrow I don't think the Hawks will get well soon. Point spread has them listed as a 10 point underdog. That appears to be about right. Geneseo marches on as they win this one 83-74.
     
   
Potsdam State  at  Fredonia State      8:00 PM

The battle to avoid the basement and the Blue Devils have the advantage with the game on home turf. Both teams with year long struggles have a combined record of 5-23 overall and 0-14 in the YAC. Saw Potsdam play on Tuesday and they looked much better than a 2-12 team. The oddsmakers have made the road team a slight 1 point favorite here, so the game really is a tossup. Based on what I saw on Tuesday plus the fact that Potsdam is where my wife and I met , (so I'm obviously biased) I will go with the Bears by a 66-63 margin.     


Brockport State   at  Oneonta State      8:00 PM

Brockport has been hunmming along like a fine tuned Masserati. They are 12-1 and every one of those victories with the exception of the win over Plattsburgh State has been by double digits. They have simply been taking care of business.  Undefeated in the YAC they look to add to that total with a pair of wins this weekend. The Red Dragons are in the midst of the toughest 5 game stretch of their schedule and with losses in the first 2 games the going is getting any easier this weekend. Port tonight and Geneseo tomorrow will make that guady 5-1 conference record of 7 days ago disappear in a heartbeat or so it would seem. The oddsmakes have once again listed the Golden Eagles as a double digit favorite, expecting the margin of victory to be 14 points. I expect the Red Dragons to keep it close for a while but ultimately the backcourt of the Eagles will prove to be the deciding factor. Ivy is on his way to a 3 game total this week that will propel him to Player of the Week honors. My crystal ball predicted 3 big games for Ivy this week and he started off with a 35 point effor against the Bengals on Tuesday. 30 more tonight wouldn't surprise me as the Golden Eagles win this game by an 89-74 final score.     
   
Plattsburgh State  at  Buffalo State      8:00 PM

The game of the night will feature two teams that have been a part of numerous memorable contests in the past few years. Last year we won at home 93-85, the Bengals won in the Big House 93-89. Over the past 7 years the schools have met 16 times and each team has walked off the court victorious on 8 occasions. The Cardinals have the better record this year, overall and in the conference, but you can throw the records out the window when these two teams tangle. The Bengals need a win to stay in the hunt for a playoff position. They know the chance of an NCAA at large bid  has disappeared. Their only hope of an invitation to the Dance is to win the conference tournament. To do that they have to get there and they currently are in 7th place. Cortland holds a 2 game lead on them in the win column. Plattsburgh with 2 losses in the YAC, still is looking to host the conference tournament by winning the top seed. They will need some help along the way for that to happen. A third loss tonight could prove devastating to their hopes. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals an 8 point favorite here, and I think that's too many. Buffalo State can beat anyone ithe conference this year and at home they are dangerous. This is the first of five home games in a row for the Bengals and they need to start a streak to get back into contention. I would prefer they wait till tomorrow night to start that streak though. ??? The Cardinals will be pushed to the limit tonight and I could be wrong but I can't pick against my homeboys. Plattsburgh wins this one 85-82   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
amh63'

If you're checking in at all sorry for the mis-information.

Bad night to be watching a webcast in the SUNYAC.

Buffalo State doesn't have one

Fredonia State doesn't have one either

Oneonta State says they have one but all you can get is static and fuzzy lines so they don't have one either

New Paltz say they have one and in fact they do. I think I'll watch the New Paltz-Geneseo game. ;D Gotta love all the choices I have . :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 08:50:03 PM
Halftime scores

Plattsburgh State 45 Buffalo State 43.

Nothing disappointing about this game. Buff State with the early lead up by 9-2 and 12-5. Cards go in front at 13-12, extend it to 22-16 and grab the largest lead of the half at 32-20. Bengals come back and get it to a single point at 41-40 but 4 straight points by Shavar Fields bumps the Cards to a 5 point edge. Rod Epps hits a 3 pointer with 34 seconds left for the final points of the half.

Fields with 12 points to lead the Cardinals. Xavier Thomas and Ed Correa with 9 each. Thomas has 5 rebounds to top Plattsburgh. Ezra Hodgson with 7 points off the bench.

Justin Mitchell with 12 points and 5 rebounds to top the Bengals. Rod Epps also with 12 points and Chris Boyd has 10 off the bench.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
An upset in the making?

New Paltz leads Geneseo at the break by a 46-37 score.

Nick Taldi, Taylor Sowah and Andrew Seniuk lead New Paltz

Connor Fedge and Gordon Lyons are high men for Geneseo
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 08:59:54 PM
Brockport leads Oneonta by a 39-35 score at halftime.

John Ivy as predicted with 16 points in the first half. Matt Lee added 8 points.

Jackson Zuvic with 11 points and 5 rebounds for Oneonta. Zach Mager has 10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 09:02:37 PM
Fredonia on top of Potsdam by a 32-24 score at halftime.

Bears fail to score a single point from the 11:21 mark down to the 5:39 mark , almost 6 minutes. Tough to win when you have a scoreless drought of that length. They did fight back to get it to single digits at the break though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 09:21:57 PM
Updates

Plattsburgh and Buffalo State going to go right down to the wire as the teams are back and forth with the Bengals up by 2 at 66-64 with 7:12 left to play.


Geneseo was down by 16 pointa at 65-49 and has come back to close within 3 points at 73-70 with 4:30 to go...correction now all tied up at 73 each with 3:0 minutes to go.

Oneonta has come back from a 9 point deficit to trail Brockport 51-48 with 13 minutes left to play.


Potsdam getting handled by the Blue Devils now ast the bears trail 75-48 with 6:30 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 09:33:56 PM
Crunch time at new Paltz.

Geneseo has come all theway back  and now leads 77-75 with 35 seconds left in the game.

Taylor Sowah is fouled and he makes both of them to tie the game up.

Geneseo takes a time out with 31 seconds left to play. The Knights inbound and New Paltz goes into a zone which causes the Geneseo coach to call another time out.

Geneseo takes a shot at the buzzer that rims out and the teams are headed to overtime.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 09:48:13 PM
Getting to the end of the Buff State game and the Cardinals break away from a 67-66 1 point lead  to slowly open  up a 79-70 advantage behind the career night of Xavier Thomas. Rod Epps tightened things up with a pair of three pointer to make it 81-76.

There is 45 seconds left to go and The Bengals foul Chris Manning. Manning makes them both and the Bengals counter with a Justin Mitchell layup.

Once again the Bengals foul and Xaxier Thomas goes to the line. Thomas makes 1 of 2 and the Bengals' Brad Doyley is fouled and makes them both to make it 84-80 with 24 seconds to go.

Bengals foul Shavar Fields and he drops tham both through to make it 86-80. bengals miss a 3 pointer and foul Thomas again who makes 1 of 2 and Bengal come down and fire up another 3. That one misses the mark but Doyley is fouled by Thomas and makes 1 of 2. Mitchell then tips in the missed free throw to make it 87-83. He is fouled on the tip in but misses the free throw and the game goes final.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 09:58:52 PM
Geneseo buries New Paltz in the overtime period and wins by a final of 92-82.

The Knights got 6 points from Connor Fedge, 5 points from Gordon Lyons in overtme to help put away the pesky Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
In another heated contest that almost had huge implications, the Brockport Golden Knights held off another upset minded team, as they overcame a 79-78 Red Dragon lead with 30 seconds left to play. With Brockport leading by a 78-76 score, Oneonta's Jack Dignan was fouled on a 3 point attempt with 30 seconds left on the game clock. Dignan promptly swished all 3 free throws to give Oneonta their first lead since midway through the first half.

Brockport missed a three point attempt with 23 seconds left but got the rebound. they missed another 3 pointer with 16 seconds left and Oneonta corraled the rebound. After a pair of timeouts, Oneonta committed a turnoverwith just 9 seconds left in the game. Just enough time for Mr. Ivy to do his job. Bobby Bell with the steal and John Ivy with the layup and one to open up a two point 81-79 lead.
The Red Dragons had one last chance at the upset but their 3 point attempt at the buzzer was off the mark and Brockport exhales and walks out of Dewar Arena with an 81-79 win.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 07:13:38 AM
Plattsburgh State 87  Buffalo State 83

One thing we learn as we go through life...there's always the x factor to consider. You never know when it will make an appearance but one thing is certain, if you ignore it, you will surely feel its presence. Tonight Buffalo State felt the X factor and it would prove to be their undoing.

Xavier "Xman" Thomas came off the bench for the Plattsburgh State Cardinals tonight to register career highs in points, rebounds, field goals made, free throws made, 3 pointers made, field goal attempts, free throws attempted, 3 point attempts, free throw percentage, and 3 point percentage. In other words he had a heck of a game as his double double of 21 points and 12 rebounds were team highs, plus he did his damage in only 22 minutes of court time. Most impressive was the fact that he played the final 13 minutes of the game with 4 fouls and scored 12 of his 21 points along with 8 of his rebounds after he picked up that 4th foul. An amazing stat is the time frame that Thomas picked up his fouls in. He entered the game in the first half at the 11:44 mark and played most of the remaining half until the 2:48 mark, when in a matter of 40 seconds the zebras whistled him for 3 fouls. I don't think anyone this year, in any game, at any level, has had 3 fouls called on them in such a short time span. To make matters worse Xavier entered the game in the 2nd half, for the first time at the 13:41 mark.  35 seconds later the refs hit him with his 4th foul. I wasn't able to watch this game as Buff State had no video crew available, but I do intend to find out what the people on hand felt about those calls. I'm surprised the Xman didn't get a technical, complaining about the harsh treatment by the officials but maybe he deserved those calls, I don't know, it just seemed out of whack. Xavier was 7x13 from the field, 2 x3 from long distance and 5x8 from the line. He also had 2 steals and a block.

Plattsburgh had a number of other players that were major contributors to the cause tonight. Shavar Fields had 17 points, 7 rebounds 2 steals and 1 assist. Ed Correa the SUNYAC's leader in 3 point shooting continued his success from downtown as he totaled 15 points all on 5 long range bombs. Ed has now totaled 42 triples for the season and is the leader in that category, despite playing less games than the 2 players closest to him.

John Perez had 13 points. 7 rebounds and 2 assists, while Shamoy McIntosh added 8 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist. Point guard Chris Manning, almost matched his career high of 11 assists, that he set last year, also against Buffalo State. He added to his conference lead  tonight with 10 dimes, to bring his total for the year to 81. He also had 6 points. 4 rebounds and 4 steals.

The Cardinals had a pretty good night shooting in the Big House as they were 26x53 (49%) from the field. They were 10x19 from 3 point land (52.6%) and an amazing (for the Cards) 25x30 (83.3%) from the line. The astounding irony of that statistic is the fact that Manning and Thomas, the 2 worst free throw shooters on the team, were 6x6 (Manning) and 5x8 (Thomas). Between them they were 6 x8 down the stretch when the Bengals had to foul. The Buff State coaches did their homework and fouled the right players but those players came through tonight when the pressure was on. 

The Bengals got a big effort from Justin Mitchell who was the leading scorer in the game with 24 points. Justin completed his double double by capturing rebounding honors as well, as he crashed the glass for 15 boards, including 9 on the offensive end. Justin has already made my 1st team All Conference team. He added 3 assists and 2 steals and kept his team in the game with big baskets time after time. Rod Epps was close behind with 20 points and led a charge near the end with 8 straight points, that kept the Cardinals in range. Rod added 3 rebounds,1 assist and a steal.

Chris Boyd has his career high tonight as well, as the  dropped in 16 points on 5x9 shooting with all 5 field goals coming from behind the arc. Chris added 2 rebounds and 3 steals in 22 minutes of court time. Legree Kirkland was the other Bengal player in double digits with 10 points on 5x7 shooting.

Buff State shot 31x68 from the field (45.6%), 9x25 (36%) from distance and 12x22 (54.5%) from the stripe. The Cardinals won the rebounding battle 41 to 34, while the Bengals had less turnovers than the Cardinals 14 to 21.

Buffalo State falls to 7-8 overall and 3-5 in conference play.  They will welcome the Potsdam Bears to the Sports Arena on Saturday afternoon,

Plattsburgh improves to 12-3 and 6-2 in the YAC. They will travel to Fredonia to try for the sweep of the western New York teams this weekend. Tonight was the first time that Plattsburgh has defeated the Bengals in Buffalo since January 12th of 2008.

I almost nailed this one as I predicted a Cardinal victory by an 85 to 82 score. If Brad Doyley makes his 2nd free throw with 4 seconds left, then Justin Mitchell doesn't get a tip in and the Bengals end up with 82 points instead of 83. My Cards got 87 instead of 85 because Manning and Thomas defied the odds shooting free throws. ;D                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2014, 08:31:06 AM
Way to hang tough Eagles--O-State always tough at home and the officiating usually doesn't help out the visitors. Good win!! Don't sleep on New Paltz as they got some game and looking for the upset!!! Back home in Florida and rooting for the "BEAST of the EAST." Make us proud!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2014, 08:33:19 AM
By the way, Poison Ivy, make the Magicman proud and drop another 30 spot on the boys from New Paltz. Got to give Magic some Props!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 25, 2014, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 25, 2014, 08:33:19 AM
By the way, Poison Ivy, make the Magicman proud and drop another 30 spot on the boys from New Paltz. Got to give Magic some Props!

Props to magic on a good victory last night and 1 helluva performance by Thomas!!

"Welcomes Potsdam" might be a bit much but welcoming a victory is a must!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
Brockport 81 Oneonta 79

At the end of the season if the Oneonta Red Dragons fail to make the SUNYAC playoffs, there's a good chance that tonight's loss will be a major reason why. The Red Dragons will look back at this game as the one that got away. With a one point lead and possession of the rock with less than 10 seconds on the clock, about the only thing that could go wrong would be a turnover. Enter Mr. Murphy and his law book. Brockport's Bobby Bell tipped the ball away from Oneonta's Zach Mager and John Ivy corralled it. Ivy headed for the Brockport basket and was fouled hard as he went in for the layup. The ball went in, Ivy completed the 3 point play, the Red Dragons missed their final shot and Murphy's law had struck again.

The Ivy and Bell heroics were necessary after Oneonta's Jack Dignan was fouled with 30 seconds to play while attempting a 3 pointer. Dignan calmly stepped up to the line and drained all 3 free throws to give the Red Dragons the lead. Brockport missed 2 chances to regain the lead and when Oneonta's Dan Lee got the defensive rebound with 16 seconds left, it certainly looked like Oneonta was on the verge of pulling off the biggest upset of the SUNYAC season.   

I stated this in a post on January 21st when I was talking about the players that I thought would be considered for the Player of the Week for Jan 13th through the 19th:    " I think John Ivy's POTW will be after the games that he plays this week, as I see him putting together 3 huge games."

Those 3 huge games I was talking about have resulted in Ivy scoring 35 points against Buff State on Tuesday and 30 points last night against Oneonta. If I was the coach of New Paltz I'd hire the guy that Tonya Harding hired to club Nancy Kerrigan's knee. I heard he's out of jail and looking for work. Seriously though, John Ivy is putting up some big numbers this week, just to prove that the magicman's crystal ball really can see into the future. And I thank him for making me look so good. ::) 8-) I think he's already a lock for the D3hoops Team of the Week, regardless of what he does this afternoon. He will have another big game though and a 3rd straight 30 point effort isn't out of the question. John may decide to be the set up man today, since he's scored so much this week, and may want to get his teammates more ink in the scorebook. However he plays it, the Hawks will get their dose of poison Ivy this afternoon as it has spread from Buffalo to Oneonta to New Paltz.

Ivy scored his 30 points against Oneonta by going 10x20 from the field, 5x9 from long range, and 5x5 from the line. He had 4 rebounds 1 assist and a steal. Matt lee had a solid all around game with 12 points, a game high 8 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals. Patrick Coyle also had 12 points shooting 6x9 from the field. He grabbed 7 rebounds and had 3 blocks. Bobby Bell only had 6 points, but added 2 rebounds, an assist and 3 steals, none bigger than the one with less than 10 seconds to play, that resulted in the game winning basket.

#23 Brockport improves to 13-1 overall, 7-0 in the conference, and extends their unbeaten streak to 12 straight. They shoot for number 13 at 4 PM today at the Hawk Center against New Paltz. The Golden Eagles with a win today could possibly move up several spots in next week's Top 25 poll.

Oneonta was led by their usual suspect Zach Mager who scored 19 points, had 4 rebounds and 3 assists. Mikey McElroy had 16 points and 8 rebounds with a block. Jackson Zuvic  also had 16 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists. Jack Dignan had 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 3 points that should have included the game winning point.

The Red Dragons fall to 8-8 overall and 5-4 in the conference. They will face Geneseo today at 4 PM and the good news is, that even if they lose to the Knights today, they will still be in sole possession of the 6th and final playoff spot in the conference. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 03:57:14 PM
4 games scheduled for today at 4 PM:


Geneseo State  at  Oneonta State

The Knights survived 1 upset bid yesterday and the Red Dragons lost a big opportunity at another upset bid as well. Will the team that got lucky, Geneseo,  lose to the team that didn't, Oneonta? The Knights have won 5 of the last 6 games in this series but Oneonta has proven with their play against Brockport yesterday that they can hang with the best in the YAC. The point spread favors the visitors by a slim 4 point margin and the Knights have to be feeling good that they were able to come back from such a large deficit so late in the game yesterday. I'll go with Geneseo to win their 7th game in a row and keep sole possession of 2nd place. Knights win 78-73.

   


Brockport State  at  New Paltz State

See the above description. One lucky team, Brockport, escaped with a W, the other team, New Paltz, wish they could get a do over. Eagles will be flying high today as John Ivy puts the finishing touches on his Player of the Week campaign. I sure hope the SID at Brockport nominates John for the D3hoops Team of the Week. I don't even think he needs that big of a game today to make that team, with what he has already accomplished this week, so far. Hawks' hopes for a playoff spot took a big hit yesterday as they need to win a couple of games over the upper eschelon teams to gain admittance. The win over Oswego helped but to give one away that looked to be in the books as a W, can hurt for a while. The pain will likely continue for a while longer with the streaking Eagles in Hawk Center, looking for their 13th consecutive win. The oddsmakers think they'll get as they have been installed as an 18 point favorite. I see some big numbers here and think the Eagles will ground the Hawks....something like 92-76, to keep the streak alive.     



Potsdam State  at  Buffalo State

The Bengals, as my friend from Buffalo suggests, won't be in a welcoming mood when the Bears roll into the Queen City. Losers of 5 of their last 6 conference games have placed a premium on W's for the Bengals. Oneonta has a one and a half game lead for the final playoff spot and Buff State can reduce that margin to a half game by the end of the day. A Bengals' win here coupled with a Geneseo win over Oneonta will tighten up the race for that final playoff spot considerably. Potsdam has to be feeling pretty low right now, as they were handled by the other conference team that had yet to break into the conference win column. Their job won't be any easier tonight against the Bengals, who have won 10 straight games over the Bears. The last time Potsdam defeated Buffalo State was just over 7 years ago on January 19th 2007. This losing streak will continue for a while longer. The point spread has the Bengals favored by 16 points and the Bears will be hard pressed to keep it that close. I see this one getting out of hand early as the Bengals will press from end to end and the Bears haven't responded well to that style of play. I think this one will end up a 94-70 Buff State win.



Plattsburgh State  at  Fredonia State

The Cardinals need to take care of business today to keep pace with Brockport and Geneseo who should remain in front of them at days' end. They can't afford a stumble here that would  widen the distance between the top pair. Fredonia is finally on the board in the SUNYAC but they will find that tonight's opponent has a few more weapon's in their arsenal. The oddsmakers have rated Plattsburgh as an 18 point favorite, but the Cardinals have a way of playing down to the competition. I've watched them do that on several occasions already this year, most notably on this past Tuesday night. Cards won both games last year and have won 9 of the past 14 contests going back over the past 7 years. They will add to that total this afternoon as I see them winning this game by an 87-74 final.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 04:50:14 PM
Plattsburgh 38   Fredonia 23 at the half.

Blue Devils broke on top  and held an early 15-11 lead but the Cardinals used a barrage of 3 pointers by 5 different players and they went on a 21-1 run that doubled up the Bule Devils at 32-16 with 6:09 left in the half.

Cardinals were led by John Perez with 9 points and 7 rebounds. JP even drained a 3 pointer in the Cards big run. He never even takes a 3 point shot say much less make one. Ezra Hodgson had 6 points while Shamoy mcIntosh and Chris Manning both had 5.

Fredonia was led by Tyrone Clark with 11 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
Geneseo leads Oneonta by a 44-38 score at the half 

Gordon Lyons with 15 for the Knights. James McKenna with 7.

Jack Dignan with 9, Zac Mager with 8 lead the Red Dragons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Upsets in the making?

Potsdam leads Buffalo State at the half 30-26

Rob Duquette leads Potsdam with 13 points. Zac Adams with 8.

Legree Kirkland is the high man for the Bengals with 10 points and 4 rebounds.




New Paltz leads Brockport by a score of 43-36 at the break.

Taylor Sowah with 11 for the Hawks, Andrew Joseph with 8 and Zach Cone-Douglas with 7.

John Ivy with 14 for the Eagles, Brandon Caruthers with 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 05:21:30 PM
Plattsburgh on cruise control as they lead Fredonia 73-34 with under 5 minutes to play.

Brockport is closing in on New Paltz as they now trail by only 2 points at 50-48.

Buffalo State has caught Potsdam and they are all tied up at 46 .

Geneseo has opened up a 20 point lead over Oneonta 79-58.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 05:44:21 PM
Geneseo wins 83-68  or 83-69. Take your pick. Scoreboard on the video cast at the gym shows 83-68. Live stats page shows 83-69.

Geneseo won the first half by 6 and the 2nd half by 8.

Connor Fedge had 27 points for Geneseo along with 3 steals. Gordon Lyons had 21 points 9 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.
Thomas Decker added 11 points and Matt Curry 8 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Mikey McElroy had 20 poiints, 8 rebounds 4 assists and a steal for the Dragons. Zach Mager had 10 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists while Kareem Williams had 9 points and 6 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
Buffalo State hangs on and defeats upset minded Potsdam State 68-56 by outscoring the bears 15-3 in the final four + minutes. Tied at 53 the Bengals got a layup from Brad Doyley and back to back jumpers from Lovell Smith to open up a 5 point lead at 59-54. Twice the Bears would cut it to 3 points but couldn't get it any closer. The Bengals hit 3 of 4 from the line and both Chris Boyd and Justin Mitchell got loose for a layup and a dunk to end the game.

Legree Kirkland led the Bengals in what I think was a career high for him of 22 points. He completed his double double with 11 rebounds. The 21 points made him the game's high scorer and his 11 boards were1 shy of tying the Bears' Brandon Williams with 12. Justin Mitchell had 11 points and 4 rebounds while Rod Epps had 11 points and 3 rebounds.

Potsdam had a big night from Rob Duquette with 20 points and 9 rebounds. Zac Adams added 17 points with 8 rebounds 3 assists and a block. Brandon Williams managed a double double with 11 points, 12 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals.

With the win the Bengals move to within a half game of the 6th and final playoff berth in the YAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
Final score
Plattsburgh State  77  Fredonia State 42.

Cardinals made short work of the Blue Devils once they got it in gear. A 21-1 explosion was the primer and they just coasted the rest of the way. Coach Curle went to his bench early and often as the Cardinal reserves managed to put in at least 5 minutes or more of playing time.

Alan Siergiej who scored a career high 14 points led the Cardinals in scoring as he was 6x9 from the field and 2x2 from the line. Alan is the 8th different Cardinal to lead the team in scoring this season. That is just an amazing stat.  Alan was also the 7th Cardinal in the past 18 days to set a new career high in points scored in a game.  John Perez had 13 points, a game high 8 rebounds 2 assists 2 steals and a block in only 19 minutes on the court. No Plattsburgh starter played more than 24 minutes and 11 of the 13 Cardinals had double digit minutes. Shavar Fields, Ezra Hodgson and Chris Manning all scored 8 points before an early exit. Freshman Vaughn Dweck made the first 3 pointer of his collegiate career to give the Cardinals another game with at least 10 made 3 pointers. It's the 6th time in the past 8 games they have made that many.

Cards shot 47% from the field (28x59), 47 %from long distance (10x21) and 91.7 % from the line (11x12) Both teams had 13 turnovers and the Cards had 41 rebounds to 36 for the Blue Devils.

Fredonia was led by Tyrone Clark who set a Fredonia school record last night with 45 points against Potsdam. Tonight he once again came out of the gate firing away and scored 7 of the Blue Devils first 15 points, in the initial 5 minutes of the game. For the remaining 35 minutes he was held to just 6 points to total 13 for the game. He also had 5 rebounds and was the only Fredonia player in double figures. John Kovach had 5 points and tied for the game high in rebounds with 8. Fredonia only shot 23.2% from the field (13x56) and was even worse from long range making 9.1% of their attempts as they went 2x22 from behind the arc.

Plattsburgh improves to 13-2 overall and 7-2 in the YAC. They are in third place, a half game behind Geneseo and have a 2 game lead on Cortland and Oswego. They will return to action next weekend when they host Oneonta and then New Paltz at Memorial Hall. 

Fredonia falls to 4-12 (1-8) and will face Buffalo state on Tuesday in the Queen City. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2014, 10:06:33 PM
Here's a result that will make a certain Bengal smile. Carthage has just beaten #4 Illinois Wesleyan 80-73. I mentioned to my friend from Buff State that I picked Carthage in the CCIW pick em league to beat IWU. I told him that Malcom Kelly was going to have a big game and the Redmen were going to pull off the upset. Kelly finished with 25 points to lead all scorers. This is the 4th time that Carthage has beaten a ranked team this year and 3 of those teams were ranked in the Top Ten at the time that Carthage beat them.
Illinois Wesleuan, Washington U and Calvin College. They also own a win over Wheaton College when they were ranked. 

Buffalo State currently in 7th place in the conference owns a 67-65 win over Carthage on a neutral court, with Malcom Kelly in the Carthage lineup.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 26, 2014, 12:51:40 AM
Probably not too surprising -- Carthage is 8-2 at home (one of the losses to a scholarship school) and 4-4 away from home. Don't think anyone on the CCIW page is ever too surprised when a team loses on the road.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2014, 04:44:55 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 26, 2014, 12:51:40 AM
Probably not too surprising -- Carthage is 8-2 at home (one of the losses to a scholarship school) and 4-4 away from home. Don't think anyone on the CCIW page is ever too surprised when a team loses on the road.

It's hard to win on the road in most conferences. We certainly know, here in the SUNYAC, how important it is to protect home court.

It's interesting to note that while no one on the CCIW page is surprised when a team loses on the road, everyone in the CCIW Pick Em League chose Illinois Wesleyan to win that game against Carthage. Everyone except, yours truly. ;D

It's also interesting and in support of your statement, that all 4 home teams in the CCIW won on Saturday, even though 3 of them were home dogs. Only Wheaton was favored to win at home. #13 Augustana, #4 Illinois Wesleyan, and Millikin were expected to win on the road. They were all favored from 8 to 14 points but failed to get the job done.

Carthage now stands at 12-6 for the season. Three of those 6 losses came before Malcom Kelly rejoined the team in December.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2014, 06:49:42 AM
Brockport State 78  New Paltz 69

This was another closely contested affair that featured great back and forth play throughout the first half. Brockport's John Ivy continued his outstanding run of the past week as he opened up with 9 of the Golden Eagles first 11 points to stake his team to an early 11-4 advantage. An 8-0 run by the Hawks reversed the lead but Ivy scored again to put Brockport back in front and the tone for the rest of the period was set. Five ties and seven lead changes would occur until the Hawks, down 32-31, with 4:25 left in the period scored 7 unanswered points to take their biggest lead at 38-32. Ivy made 1 of 2 from the line for Brockport, but the Hawks got 5 more points on a Keegan Donovan 3 pointer and a Taylor Sowah jumper, to open up the first double digit lead of the stanza at 43-33 with 1:09 remaining. The Eagles scored the last 3 points of the half and found themselves trailing 43-36 at the break.

Brockport was still down by 10 points at 50-40 several minutes into the 2nd period when the Eagles finally found the next gear. All 5 players on the floor scored over the next 5 minutes as the Eagles ripped off 15 straight points, the last 2 on a John Ivy layup, to take a 55-50 lead with 11:44 remaining. Kevin Roach finally stopped the bleeding for the Hawks with a basket on their next possession but Brockport would get a layup by Brandon Caruthers, a steal with another layup by Clifton Lyerly, and after the Hawks came up empty again, Ivy drained a 3 pointer to make the Brockport advantage 62-52 with 10:10 on the clock.

The Hawks tried to come back and managed to cut the lead to 4 points at 66-62, and 68-64,  but each time Mr. Ivy was there with a score to prevent them from making it a one possession game. Ivy's last field goal with 2:47 left in the game gave the Eagles a 70-64 lead and they would score their final 8 points from the line as they made 8 of 10 from the stripe down the stretch.

John Ivy scored 27 points to lead all scorers as he once again shot at least 50% from the field. (10x18 fg, 2x5 3's, 5x6 ft) He added 3 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 blocks, and 1 assist. Brandon Caruthers had 13 points (5x10 fg, 1x4 3's, 2x3 ft), with 4 rebounds, 4 steals, and 2 assists. Clifton Lyerly had 11 points and 5 rebounds.

Brockport was 30x62 (48.4%) from the field, only 4x18 (22.2%) from 3 point range and 14x23 (60.9%) from the line. They lost the rebounding battle to the Hawks by a 39-33 margin but only had 13 turnovers to 23 for New Paltz.

New Paltz was led by Taylor Sowah with 17 points (7x16 fg, 0x1 3's, 3x7 ft), 7 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals. Zach Cone-Douglas had 12 points and 3 rebounds off the bench. Keegan Donovan had 11 points and 5 rebounds as he hit 3 of 4 from long distance. Andrew Joseph had 8 points and 5 assists while Nick Taldi added 8 points and 4 rebounds.

The Hawks shot 27x58 from the field (46.6%), 7x14 from long range (50%) and 8x15 (53.3%) from the stripe.

New Paltz falls to 6-11 overall and 3-7 in conference play. The Hawks are now in 8th place in the standings, 2 full games behind 6th place Oneonta. They will be back in action next weekend when they travel to the North Country to face Potsdam on Friday night and Plattsburgh on Saturday afternoon.

#23 Brockport wins their 13th game in a row to up their record to 14-1. They remain undefeated in conference play at 8-0 and after playing 12 of their first 15 games on the road the Eagles will enjoy a "lengthy" home stand of 4 straight games starting with Cortland on Tuesday the 28th at 8 PM. Geneseo will follow on Saturday Feb. 1st, as the two teams will make up an earlier contest that was postponed.   
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2014, 07:22:16 AM
Preseason All American John Ivy is certainly living up to his billing. The Brockport star did make my crystal ball look pretty good as he completed a monster week that I predicted last Sunday he would have.

There is no reason to even look at anybody else's play in the conference as the Player of the Week in the SUNYAC belongs to Mr. Ivy.

Here's John's stats for the week in which his team went 3-0:

Points scored:  35 vs Buffalo State....30 vs Oneonta....27 vs New Paltz

92 points for the week  30.7 ppg average

32x61 from the field for 52.4%

9x20 from 3 point range  45%

19x20 free throws   95%

13 rebounds  4.3 rpg average

He also had 5 steals, 2 blocks and 2 assists.

Hopefully the Brockport SID will nominate John for the D3hoops Team of the Week.

John, don't slow down until February 7th. Hopefully Coach Dunne will give you the night off on that date. ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 26, 2014, 01:25:01 PM
Great weekend, Eagles!!! Keep it going and I sure hope you are right, Magic--Don't forget to nominate "Poison Ivy" for D3 Player of the Week--Hard to match those stats--
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2014, 04:08:18 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 26, 2014, 01:25:01 PM
Great weekend, Eagles!!! Keep it going and I sure hope you are right, Magic--Don't forget to nominate "Poison Ivy" for D3 Player of the Week--Hard to match those stats--

scooterman, or may I call you Scott?

D3hoops doesn't have a Player of the Week they have a 5 man Team of the Week.
 
Although if they did have a  Player of the Week, then John "Poison" Ivy would be my choice, for that award, this week. 8-)

PS: How's the weather in Tampa? When you told me several years ago that you were retiring and moving to Florida, I didn't really pick up on the retiring thing and just assumed you were relocating to the Sunshine State. I had it my mind that you were a young fellow a few years removed from Brockport State. Now I learn that you really are retired and I'm guessing it's not because you won the lottery. So apparently you may not be as old as the magicman, but a spring chicken you ain't. ???  Who knew? ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 26, 2014, 10:17:11 PM
Magic-You may call me Scott, if you prefer, and I am not a spring chicken by any stretch of the imagination. Chilly down here in Florida but on the links today in the 60s. If it gets in the 50s; we dress like we are going to a snowball fight--LOL. It is great to be back on the board and no D3 basketball in Florida. All D2 conferences and a variety of other hoops. Football is the priority down here and B-ball an afterthought in my experiences to this point. I hope this is the year for the SUNY's, and I am enjoying the Bport spirit. I miss those days!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2014, 08:41:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2014, 10:06:33 PM
Here's a result that will make a certain Bengal smile. Carthage has just beaten #4 Illinois Wesleyan 80-73. I mentioned to my friend from Buff State that I picked Carthage in the CCIW pick em league to beat IWU. I told him that Malcom Kelly was going to have a big game and the Redmen were going to pull off the upset. Kelly finished with 25 points to lead all scorers. This is the 4th time that Carthage has beaten a ranked team this year and 3 of those teams were ranked in the Top Ten at the time that Carthage beat them.
Illinois Wesleuan, Washington U and Calvin College. They also own a win over Wheaton College when they were ranked. 

Buffalo State currently in 7th place in the conference owns a 67-65 win over Carthage on a neutral court, with Malcom Kelly in the Carthage lineup.

;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on January 27, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
A magicman was driving down the road ... then he turned into a drive way.

#badjokemonday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2014, 10:14:50 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on January 27, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
A magicman was driving down the road ... then he turned into a drive way.

#badjokemonday

Pep,
The fact that it's badjokemonday... is funnier than the bad joke. But I'm smiling..I'm smiling :)  Plus K again in about 16 hours.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2014, 04:09:47 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll came out Monday evening and Brockport State has moved up 3 places from #23 to #20. A 3-0 week by the Golden Eagles has seen their point total go from 78 to 140.

Geneseo State and Plattsburgh State are both in the Others Receiving Votes. Geneseo is getting 6 points and Plattsburgh has 1 point.
No other East Region team is mentioned.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2014, 05:56:04 AM
As expected the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 1-26-14 is John Ivy from #20 Brockport State. Hopefully John can receive Team of the Week honors from D3hoops and POTW honors from the ECAC.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

John Ivy had another strong week for the Golden Eagles. Ivy tied a career-high 35 points against Buffalo State on Tuesday evening, helping Brockport beat the Bengals after falling behind early in the game. Ivy hit a last second game-winning shot on Friday night against Oneonta. Against New Paltz he helped spark a second half come-back, helping Brockport remain undefeated in conference play. In three games, Ivy averaged 30.7 points per game. He shot 45% from long range and over 50% from the floor, as well as only missing one free throw. Ivy's performance on Saturday also helped him reach a total of 1,012 career points in the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) regular-season games, only the fifth player from any conference team to reach 1,000 career conference points.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 28, 2014, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2014, 05:56:04 AM
As expected the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 1-26-14 is John Ivy from #20 Brockport State. Hopefully John can receive Team of the Week honors from D3hoops and POTW honors from the ECAC.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

John Ivy had another strong week for the Golden Eagles. Ivy tied a career-high 35 points against Buffalo State on Tuesday evening, helping Brockport beat the Bengals after falling behind early in the game. Ivy hit a last second game-winning shot on Friday night against Oneonta. Against New Paltz he helped spark a second half come-back, helping Brockport remain undefeated in conference play. In three games, Ivy averaged 30.7 points per game. He shot 45% from long range and over 50% from the floor, as well as only missing one free throw. Ivy's performance on Saturday also helped him reach a total of 1,012 career points in the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) regular-season games, only the fifth player from any conference team to reach 1,000 career conference points.

Already done -- he's on the team!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2014, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 28, 2014, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2014, 05:56:04 AM
As expected the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 1-26-14 is John Ivy from #20 Brockport State. Hopefully John can receive Team of the Week honors from D3hoops and POTW honors from the ECAC.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

John Ivy had another strong week for the Golden Eagles. Ivy tied a career-high 35 points against Buffalo State on Tuesday evening, helping Brockport beat the Bengals after falling behind early in the game. Ivy hit a last second game-winning shot on Friday night against Oneonta. Against New Paltz he helped spark a second half come-back, helping Brockport remain undefeated in conference play. In three games, Ivy averaged 30.7 points per game. He shot 45% from long range and over 50% from the floor, as well as only missing one free throw. Ivy's performance on Saturday also helped him reach a total of 1,012 career points in the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) regular-season games, only the fifth player from any conference team to reach 1,000 career conference points.

Already done -- he's on the team!

Thanks for the heads up, Pat. Looks like there were some great individual achievements last week across the D3 landscape. Glad John could receive such an honor.

The ECAC POTW award could be icing on the cake for John and equal Buffalo State's Justin Mitchell who won all 3 awards in the same week earlier this season. That announcement should come out tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 28, 2014, 03:16:09 PM
Magicman...when you know an approximate time period wrt to Plattsburgh's time on Hoopsville...on Thursday.....let the boys on the CAC board, VANDY, MIDDHOOPS KNOW.   Since it is a special 12 hour show...difficult for many to hang around to see your school honored :)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2014, 08:15:16 PM
Three games on tap for tonight in conference play.



Oswego State  at  Geneseo State    8:00 PM

Quick turnaround for these two teams as they just met in Oswego 10 days ago. The Knights came away with a narrow 66-62 win on that night and look to sweep the season series for the first time since the 2009-10 season. The Lakers have won 5 of the past 7 meetings but are 7 point underdogs in tonight's contest. I think the Knights get that season sweep as they win this one 74-70.



Cortland State  at  #20 Brockport State   8:00 PM

The Golden Eagles are on a roll and now they start their longest homestand of the season with the first of 4 straight games in Tuttle North Gym. Winners of 13 straight games and holding down the #20 spot in the D3hoops national rankings will put a target on the back of the Brockport team that the rest of the SUNYAC teams will be aiming for. Cortland is tied for 4th place in the conference but a loss tonight could hurt them with a trip to Buffalo State scheduled for this weekend. The Bengals, with a win tonight, could pull into a tie with the Red Dragons, heading into that contest.  The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 13 point favorite in this game and after the way that the Eagles handled Cortland at home several weeks ago it's hard to bet against that spread. I think that Brockport keeps their winning streak alive and will do so by a 83-72 margin. 

Fredonia State  at  Buffalo State     8:00 PM

The Bengals are looking to win back to back conference games since the opening week of SUNYAC play. They have moved into the 6th and final playoff spot but with 3 straight home games are hoping that more upward mobility will follow. The Blue Devils finally got on the board in conference play but I don't think they will see another victory anytime soon. The poitspread in this game is a double digit margin of 15 points and I can't see it much closer than that. Bengals win big time, 85-69.









Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2014, 08:49:43 PM
John Ivy completes the trifecta with his third award as he is named the ECAC Upstate PLayer of the Week. He's off to another good  start tonight as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2014, 08:57:19 PM
Halftime scores in the YAC

Brockport leads Cortland 45-29.

John Ivy with 14 to lead the Golden Eagles. Brandon Caruthers and Clifton Lyerly with 6 points each
Lamard Herron and Kevin McMahon with 8 points each for Cortland.


Geneseo leads oswego 46-33

Gordon Lyons with 12 points and 7 rebounds. James McKenna with 11 points for the Knights.
Rashawn Powell with 9 points and 5 rebounds to lead the Lakers


Buffalo State over Fredonia 45-38

JUstin Mitchell with 14 points and 5 rebounds. Rod Epps and Chris Boyd with 10 points each.
John Kovach with 14 points and 7 rebounds to lead the Blue Devils

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2014, 10:06:31 PM
Buffalo State 86 Fredonia 79

Bengals couldn't put the pesky Blue Devils away as this game was only a 3 point affair, with Buff State up 80-77 and only 25 seconds to go. Fredonia had to foul and Rod Epps hit them both to create some breathing room. Chris Boyd then got a steal on the Blue Devils possession and fed Brad Doyley for a layup that salted this one away. Epps with another pair from the line and a meaningless Fredonia layup at the buzzer for the final points.

Justin Mitchell with 26 points (10x14 fg, 6x7 ft), along with 9 rebounds,2 assists, 2 steals, and a block. Justin was the top scorer and rebounder in the game. Rod Epps backed him up with 23 points (7x20 fg, 3x7 3's, 6x6 ft) and 5 rebounds. Chris Boyd had 10 points (4x8 fg, 2x6 3's) with 5 boards and a pair of steals. Brad Doyley only scored 4 points but had 8 assists and 7 rebounds.

John Kovach with 23 points ( 10x17 fg, 0x2 3's, 3x5 ft) was high man for the Blue Devils. He tied Mitchell for rebounding honors as he also grabbed 9 boards. Robert Lyles had 21 points (6x12 fg, 2x6 3's, 7x9 ft), 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 rebounds. Tyrone Clark had 18 points (7x14 fg, 3x8 3's, 1x2 ft), 11 assists, 7 rebounds and 4 steals.

The Bengals pull into a 4 way tie for 4th place in the YAC with a 5-5 conference record (9-8 overall). Oneonta (idle tonight), Cortland (a loss tonight) and Oswego (also a loss tonight) all sport a 5-5 record as well.

Some big changes will take place this weekend when 2 of those 4 teams, Cortland and Oswego, invade the Sports Arena in the Queen City. The Bengals will need to play better than they did tonight, especially on the defensive end, if they expect back to back wins over the Lakers and Red Dragons. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2014, 06:10:21 AM
While doing some fact checking about another topic, I happened to come across this post of mine from a year ago, and thought it was appropriate to repost it.

John Ivy, as we know by now, was selected to the D3hoops Team of the Week on Tuesday January 28th for the 3 games that he had for the week ending Jan. 26th. The following post was from January 29th 2013.

It seems like Mr. Ivy was doing a Deja Vu for us exactly 1 year from the date that he won the SUNYAC Player of the Week and made the D3hoops Team of the Week. Now that's....Magical     


Quote from: magicman on January 29, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
BENGALSRULE PLEASE NOTE: TEAM OF THE WEEK NOTIFICATION  Note color: Brockport State Green

And just like last week our reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week has also been named to this week's D3hoops Team of the Week

John Ivy who received the YAC honors yesterday got the D3hoops honors today. John is the 3rd SUNYAC player in 2 weeks to get this national award, and the 4th player from the YAC to be honored this year. Here's the write up from the TOTW page.

John Ivy
Ivy averaged 24.7 points and 3.0 steals per game in a 3-0 week for the Golden Eagles. He shot 51 percent from the floor, 9-for-20 from 3-point range and 7-for-8 from the line, while averaging 4.0 rebounds.

Here's the link to the complete TOTW:      http://d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2012-13/week10

So far this year, Gordon Lyons, Jake Simmons, Jeremy Smith and John Ivy were named the the TOTW.

John's shooting percentages and stats were pretty darn close as well. He did score more points this year in his 3 games.

Here's this year's stats.

Points scored:  35 vs Buffalo State....30 vs Oneonta....27 vs New Paltz

92 points for the week  30.7 ppg average     32x61 from the field for 52.4%    9x20 from 3 point range  45% (identical to last year 8-))

19x20 free throws   95%      13 rebounds  4.3 rpg average

He also had 5 steals, 2 blocks and 2 assists. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 29, 2014, 08:40:26 AM
Congrats to John Ivy on his "trifecta." Keep the solid play going and keep those Eagles rolling. Looks like a showdown at Bport on Saturday night with the Geneseo boys!!! It should be a good one with their contrasting styles of play. Watch out for all those backdoor cuts!!  Wish I could be there, but will have to suffer down here in warm Florida on the golf course. Good luck Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
Ditto on the trifecta congrats to John !!  He's a special player and equally humble kid. I had an up lose and personal look at him last week, Tuesday, dismantle my BENGALS!

It's good to see the SUNYAC represented nationwide also ( thanks for the heads up Pat Coleman)!


2nd half of SUNYAC play is underway and if you never believed in the term that " every game counts" you will believe in it now! 4 way tie for 4th?????  Omg. Top 4 get at least 1 home court playoff game, let alone make the playoffs! Something has got to give.

I'm hoping that the emergence of Chris Boyd and Legree Kirkland will help propel my beloved BENGALS to better efforts. As of today thier efforts have been sub par! Too talented a team ( IMHO) to struggle the way that they have been struggling! This weekend will let the BENGAL faithful know what kind of team, and what kind of players, we really have. I'm thinking that they stand tall. I'm praying that they do.

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2014, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
2nd half of SUNYAC play is underway and if you never believed in the term that " every game counts" you will believe in it now! 4 way tie for 4th?????  Omg. Top 4 get at least 1 home court playoff game, let alone make the playoffs! Something has got to give.

I wish that was true and that the top 4 teams did get at least 1 playoff game. Unfortunately that isn't the case as the team that comes in 2nd place will only play on the 1st place team's home court. I know that is true because my Cardinals came in 2nd to Cortland last year and the only court they got to play on was Corey Gymnasium and that belonged to the Red Dragons.
Here's the breakdown:


First Round:
#3  plays #6  at #3's home court
#4 plays #5  at #4's home court

Semi-Finals
The 2 winners advance to the semi-finals with the highest remaining seed (lets say #4) plays the #1 team, who had a bye, (regular season champ) on #1's home court.
Lowest remaining seed (lets say #3) will play the #2 team who also had a bye for coming in 2nd place on the home court of #1.

Finals
The 2 winners will play the next day on the home court of #1 even if #1 loses in the semifinal game.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2014, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 29, 2014, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
2nd half of SUNYAC play is underway and if you never believed in the term that " every game counts" you will believe in it now! 4 way tie for 4th?????  Omg. Top 4 get at least 1 home court playoff game, let alone make the playoffs! Something has got to give.

I wish that was true and that the top 4 teams did get at least 1 playoff game. Unfortunately that isn't the case as the team that comes in 2nd place will only play on the 1st place team's home court. I know that is true because my Cardinals came in 2nd to Cortland last year and the only court they got to play on was Corey Gymnasium and that belonged to the Red Dragons.
Here's the breakdown:


First Round:
#3  plays #6  at #3's home court
#4 plays #5  at #4's home court

Semi-Finals
The 2 winners advance to the semi-finals with the highest remaining seed (lets say #4) plays the #1 team, who had a bye, (regular season champ) on #1's home court.
Lowest remaining seed (lets say #3) will play the #2 team who also had a bye for coming in 2nd place on the home court of #1.

Finals
The 2 winners will play the next day on the home court of #1 even if #1 loses in the semifinal game.   

Damn "know it all" >:( >:( >:(

3 out of 4 ain't bad! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 29, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
So Magic, the YAC is going to a top 6, with the first 2 having a bye to the semi's this year??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 29, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
So Magic, the YAC is going to a top 6, with the first 2 having a bye to the semi's this year??

7,

The SUNYAC made that switch last year and for the first time in quite a while the Top 8 teams were not in the playoffs. Went to just 6 teams with the top pair getting the 1st round byes. Once the other 4 was whittled down to 2 teams then the four teams meet at the #1 seed's campus for the Semi-finals and the Championship game. Cortland got to have that distinction last year, and with home court in hand bested my Cardinals to win the automatic bid. I think they probably would have won it if it was played in Plattsburgh, although we did beat them in our house last year during the regular season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2014, 07:29:28 PM
Last night's action:

#20 Brockport State 89  Cortland State 71

This game went pretty much according to the script. Red dragon played tough for the first half or so of the opening period but then the Golden Eagles behind their excellent backcourt slowly built up a double digit lead. Cortland actually had the lead at 18-17 with 9:28 left in the period but the Eagles' Matt Lee buried a triple, John Ivy knocked down a pair of free throws and Bobby Bell drained another long range shot. After a Cortland turnover Patrick Coyle missed a layup. got the rebound and the putback with and 1 added to the play. just like that it was 28-18 and the Red Dragons were forced to call a time out. Cortland behind a pair of baskets by Lamard Herron managed to cut the deficit in half, but back came brockport with 8 more unanswered points to make it 38-25 with 2:33 to play. The half ended with Brandon Caruthers hitting a 3 pointer, Clifton Lyerly got a steal and a breakaway dunk and Caruthers scored with just a couple of ticks left on the clock to give Brockport a 45-29 halftime advantage. Cortland could never mount the charge they needed in the 2nd half. The Eagles quickly went up by 20 points and the closest that the Red Dragons  got after that was 14 points. The Eagles largest lead was 21 on several occasions and they coasted to the finish line.

John Ivy once again was the big gun for Brockport as he had a game high 26 points (9x15 fg, 0x3 3's, 8x8 ft). Ivy only had 26 minutes in the game and the rest of the starters had diminished playing time as well with the confortable lead they enjoyed.

Brandon Caruthers scored 16 points (6x10 fg's, 2x4 3's, 2x3 ft) and 4 assists. Aaron white came off the bench to score 11 points (3x4 fg, 1x1 3's, 4x4 ft) and Bobby Bell had 9 points on 3 shots, all made from long range. Pat Coyle had 7 points and led the team with 5 rebounds.

Brockport outshot the Red Dragons from every angle. They were 29x52 from the field (55.8%), 9x16 from behind the arc (56.2%) and 22x24 from the line (91.7%) I don't think you'll lose too many games with stats like those. 8-)  The Red Dragons shot 25x55 from the field (45.5%), 6x18 from long range (33.3%) and 15x27 from the stripe (55.6%) They had 20 turnovers to only 12 for Brockport, but did win the rebounding battle by a 35-25 margin.

Cortland was led by Kevin McMahon with 16 points (5x9 fg, 0x2 3's, 6x13 ft) 7 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks. Lamard Herron added 13 points (6x13 fg, 0x4 3's, 1x1 ft) and 3 rebounds.  Micheal Russo had 9 points in 10 minutes, with a pair of 3 pointers and a 3x3  effort from the line.

Cortland will return to action this weekend as they travel west to meet Fredonia on Friday night and Buffalo State on Saturday afternoon. They fall to 10-7 overall and 5-5 in conference play. The logjam that is currently 4th place could be a bit clearer after the smoke settles from Friday and Saturday's action.

#20 Brockport, just like the river, keeps rolling along. The Eagles are thoroughly enjoying the comforts of home right now, and that could prove to be a problem for the #37 Geneseo State Knights when they roll into town on Saturday for the big 1st place showdown.  Brockport stretches their unbeaten streak to 14 straight games and they are currently tied with #8 St. Norbert with the 3rd longest winning streak in Division III. Stevens points is the leader with 18 in a row and Cabrini is 2nd with a 16 game streak.

The Eagles are 15-1 and 9-0 in the YAC at their halfway point. Saturday will mark the 1st time that Brockport and Geneseo have met this year since their earlier meeting was postponed. 


I had this game as an 83-72 win by Brockport. I was almost perfect on Cortland's score missing by a point. Not even my red hot crystal ball could predict that the Eagles were going to shoot their socks off in this game. I mean, c'mon, 56.2% from long distance is better than Cortland shot from the foul line. If the Eagles were 16x24 from the line instead of an ungodly 22x24 I'd of hit their number right on the button. ::)   
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 30, 2014, 12:08:51 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 29, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
7,

The SUNYAC made that switch last year and for the first time in quite a while the Top 8 teams were not in the playoffs. Went to just 6 teams with the top pair getting the 1st round byes. Once the other 4 was whittled down to 2 teams then the four teams meet at the #1 seed's campus for the Semi-finals and the Championship game. Cortland got to have that distinction last year, and with home court in hand bested my Cardinals to win the automatic bid. I think they probably would have won it if it was played in Plattsburgh, although we did beat them in our house last year during the regular season.

The LEC did that for a couple years, which was stupid in an 8 team league.  Also, having that setup, I think it gives the 3 seed a better advantage in the tournament when you think about it.  On a neutral court, there isn't much difference between the #2 & the #3 anyways, the only 2 differences is the #3 will have a game under their belt while the 2 seed will have been off since the following weekend, and the 3 gets a last game at home while the 2 plays on a neutral court.  And with the tournament set up (I assume it's the opening round Tuesday, then semi's on Friday), 3 days is plenty of time for rest, especially when the YAC usually plays back-to-back nights anyways.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2014, 01:38:35 AM
Quote from: 7express on January 30, 2014, 12:08:51 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 29, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
7,

The SUNYAC made that switch last year and for the first time in quite a while the Top 8 teams were not in the playoffs. Went to just 6 teams with the top pair getting the 1st round byes. Once the other 4 was whittled down to 2 teams then the four teams meet at the #1 seed's campus for the Semi-finals and the Championship game. Cortland got to have that distinction last year, and with home court in hand bested my Cardinals to win the automatic bid. I think they probably would have won it if it was played in Plattsburgh, although we did beat them in our house last year during the regular season.

The LEC did that for a couple years, which was stupid in an 8 team league.  Also, having that setup, I think it gives the 3 seed a better advantage in the tournament when you think about it.  On a neutral court, there isn't much difference between the #2 & the #3 anyways, the only 2 differences is the #3 will have a game under their belt while the 2 seed will have been off since the following weekend, and the 3 gets a last game at home while the 2 plays on a neutral court.  And with the tournament set up (I assume it's the opening round Tuesday, then semi's on Friday), 3 days is plenty of time for rest, especially when the YAC usually plays back-to-back nights anyways.

Yeah it does favor the 3 seed. Plattsburgh's Coach Curle says he would rather play on that Tuesday instead of sitting around and then playing Friday on a neutral court. I like the idea of getting to see the team play at home one more time as well. Of course the chance of an upset is always there. If you don't play on Tuesday you're guaranteed to play on Friday. ;)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2014, 08:13:59 AM
Final on Tuesday Night  Geneseo 81 Oswego 73

The 2 teams played a competitive 1st period with 4 ties and 5 lead changes until the Knights down 29-28 with 5:25 left in the half went on a 18-4 run to end the period with a 46-33 lead.

The Lakers scored the first 2  baskets of the 2nd half to cut the deficit to 9 points but Gordon Lyons, Connor Fedge and James McKenna all scored in quick succession to restore the lead back up to 16 points and the Knights were never threatened the rest of the way. The closest the Lakers got after that was the final score, courtesy of a couple of late 3 pointers in the final 30 seconds.

The Knights had 4 players hit double figures led by Connor Fedge with 20 points. Fedge added 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and a  block. Gordon Lyons had another outstanding night, as he scored 16 points and grabbed a game high 13 rebounds. It marked the 10th time this season that Gordon has walked off the court with a double double . He is the SUNYAC leader in rebounding with 10.9 rpg  and is 5th in scoring with 19.5 ppg.

Devon Anderson, a 6'6" junior forward from my hometown of Plattsburgh  came off the bench with a season high 16 points. Devon also had 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a block in 23 minutes of court time. James McKenna added 14 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds.

Knights had an excellent night shooting as they were 27x50 from the field (54%), 6x10 from downtown (60%) and 21x30 from the line (70%).  The Lakers were 27x67 from the field (40.3%), only 5x21 from distance (23.8%), and 14x19 from the line. The Knights won a close battle off the boards 36-35 but had 16 turnovers to only 10 for Oswego.

The Lakers were led by Elijah McLaurin who came off the bench to score 20 points. He added 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist. Rashawn Powell had 14 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, and a steal.

The Lakers fall into a 4 way 4th place tie in conference play with a 5-5 record. They own an 11-6 overall record. They will be back in action on Friday night when they travel to Buffalo State to take on another of the teams that they are deadlocked with.

The Knights improve to 8-1 in the YAC and 14-2 overall. They are currently receiving votes n the D3hoops Top 25 poll and are ranked at #37 with their point total. The biggest game of their season to date, will be Saturday night when they travel to Brockport to tackle the #20 Golden Eagles in a showdown for 1st place in the conference.

There will be a lot on the line for that matchup with national ranking implications as well as SUNYAC supremacy going to the victor, at least temporarily. I'm glad the game is taking place in the evening with a time of 8:00 PM instead of the usual 4:00 PM Saturday afternoon time. That way I can attend the afternoon game between  Plattsburgh State and New Paltz at 4 :00 and then watch the Brockport-Geneseo game online at 8. I just hope the webcast is of better quality that the last one I watched from Brockport.

             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2014, 08:40:28 AM
Just in case there is anybody out there that's interested, the Plattsburgh State head coach, Tom Curle, will be on the marathon 12 hour Hoopsville show taking place today on the D3hoops website. 

Hoopsville, hosted by Dave McHugh will come on the air at 10:00 AM today and run for 12 straight hours until 10:00 PM tonight. Here's a link that should bring you to the correct website or you can get it off the front page of D3hoops: 

http://d3hoops.com/hoopsville/index

Coach Curle  is scheduled to be on the show at  approximately11:00 AM for an interview that will last around 15 to 20 minutes.

As an added attraction, your friendly neighborhood magicman, will also get to mutter into the microphone for a few minutes at the end of Coach Curle's interview. Hopefully for the benefit of the hoopsville listeners it will be for a very few minutes.

And don't forget this marathon broadcast by Dave McHugh is part of his Hoopsville Contribution Campaign to raise money to upgrade the program and make the D3 experience better for all of us. If you haven't already done so please consider making a contribution to help Dave (and ultimately all of us that have chosen to make D3hoops a part of our life) improve the overall quality of the only program out there that is devoted to Division 3 basketball. Remember you don't have to make a $100 or $250 contribution to be counted . In these tough economic times a $10 gift, done by just a small percentage of the people that enjoy this website would put Dave way over the top of his desired goal. So dig deep and give up a couple of drinks at the local watering hole this week and you won't even feel that contribution leave your pocket. Thanks for listening. 8-)           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 30, 2014, 11:46:07 AM
Good job Magicman!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2014, 12:32:49 PM
Great job Magicman!  I especially like the part where you talked about how various SUNYAC teams have traveled south and west and won "non-conference " games! Your knowledge of the E8 and liberty league also showed that you know your stuff! Anyone from those conferences, especially E8, had to appreciate your description of their in-house struglles.

"3 bids for the SUNYAC" was EXCELLENT! You put it out there. 2 teams seems like a no -brainer but if a 3rd, 4th 5th place team makes it to the championship game and wins then......who knows. 3 bids in a weak East is a definite possibilty!

Nice invite for Dave to come to enjoy some Northern hospitality! Very humble job on your part. You were spot on whe You described the feeling of meeting various bloggers in person!  Proud of the 'Yac, Curle....and magicman (little "m").

Go BENGALS...and magicman! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 30, 2014, 03:52:50 PM
Nice job Magicman :)...A few minutes?  Went on for at least 5 or more.  Did not fall asleep.  So you have no hops...really, do not give me those racial excuses ;D  The HBC impressed me with his points about his players graduating and growing within the system through the game....also how he answered the possible conflict with the hockey team wrt fan patronage.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2014, 04:05:46 PM
So when is the star of the day gonna grace these boards? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Thanks NYHoops8, amh63, and Bengalsrule for the kind words, and to all who tuned in. I appreciate the fact that you took the time out of your schedules to listen to Plattsburgh's coach Tom Curle and the few things I mumbled about.

Dave is a good interviewer and asks the right questions and my fear of stage fright went by the wayside with his questions.

Coach Curle is a a great coach, who has turned Plattsburgh State basketball into a successful and exciting program, more so than at any point in their past history. Plattsburgh  has been to the NCAA tournament 5 times in the past 8 seasons, more than any program in the East Region,  and prior to his arrival I believe they only had 1 NCAA appearance in their history. That 1 entry into the NCAA tournament did result in a trip to the Final Four but even that team only had  16-14 final record. 

More importantly though is the manner in which he coaches these young men about life and how important their education is. You don't get to play basketball for Coach Curle if your grades aren't kept up. Student atheltes who enter Plattsburgh as freshmen all leave with degrees. The fans here in the North Country are lucky to have a coach as talented as Coach Curle is. Hopefully he 'll be here for many years to come.

And amh63... hockey...what's that? ???  Just kidding. We know we have a good hockey program here but as the Coach mentioned in his interview...the success of other sports only helps. Heck our women's hoops team is challenging for the SUNYAC top spot as well this year. 8-) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on January 30, 2014, 07:48:07 PM
enjoy your day, magicman.  you deserve far more credit than you've received for your effort to support Hoopsville.  all of us spend our winter enjoying what Dave, Pat, Gordon and crew give us for nothing.  thanks for trying to keep us all honest in our indulgence.
you are a necessary man.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 30, 2014, 11:02:46 PM
Too bad Plattsburgh's interview started right as I started class this morning. >:(  I HATE how that school thing gets in the way, such a buzzkill.  Anyways, I'm sure Magic did a great job on the interview, and hopefully Hoopsville archives this 12 hour show today.  Since I was gone for most of the day anyways (damn classes  >:() I was only able to listen to about 45 minutes of it late this afternoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2014, 05:44:03 AM
M
Quote from: middhoops on January 30, 2014, 07:48:07 PM
enjoy your day, magicman.  you deserve far more credit than you've received for your effort to support Hoopsville.  all of us spend our winter enjoying what Dave, Pat, Gordon and crew give us for nothing.  thanks for trying to keep us all honest in our indulgence.
you are a necessary man.

Mrs. magicman has informed me that with all the superlatives being thrown my way that my head has grown considerably, and I may not make it out the front door as I leave for work Friday morning. :o  I assured her that it may be a tight fit but I would be able to squeeze through.....she assured me that I shouldn't worry, as she plans to stick a fork in me before I leave. :D




Quote from: 7express on January 30, 2014, 11:02:46 PM
Too bad Plattsburgh's interview started right as I started class this morning. >:(  I HATE how that school thing gets in the way, such a buzzkill.  Anyways, I'm sure Magic did a great job on the interview, and hopefully Hoopsville archives this 12 hour show today.  Since I was gone for most of the day anyways (damn classes  >:() I was only able to listen to about 45 minutes of it late this afternoon.

7,
Dave mentioned to me yesterday that the 12 hour marathon show was indeed being taped and would be available on demand like the other shows.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2014, 06:49:58 AM
Through a generous $1500.00 donation by this person...ctmchugh0699, Dave McHugh's Hoopsville campaign was at $10,010.00 last night when his marathon program ended. Happy to see that his goal was met, on the day that he spent so much time on the air. Would have preferred to see a donation of that size put him $1500 over the top though. 

As Dave has mentioned, the $10,000 figure was a goal and by no means is his campaign over. With 10 days left he will continue to welcome additional contributions so his "Rainy Day" fund will have a balance to fall back on if needed. Let's keep the overall total on the rise for the next 10 days.

If you haven't already done so please consider a contribution, which will  help the Hoopsville experience become a better showcase for D3 basketball. Contribute what you can afford, it doesn't have to be a big dollar amount. Remember, if only 10% of the D3hoops members gave just $10, then Dave's goal would be reached more than 3 times over. A lot of smaller contributions add up to a large amount. Let's keep the ball rolling.... We now return to our regularly scheduled program.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on January 31, 2014, 09:13:11 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 31, 2014, 05:44:03 AM
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Quote from: middhoops on January 30, 2014, 07:48:07 PM
enjoy your day, magicman.  you deserve far more credit than you've received for your effort to support Hoopsville.  all of us spend our winter enjoying what Dave, Pat, Gordon and crew give us for nothing.  thanks for trying to keep us all honest in our indulgence.
you are a necessary man.

Mrs. magicman has informed me that with all the superlatives being thrown my way that my head has grown considerably, and I may not make it out the front door as I leave for work Friday morning. :o  I assured her that it may be a tight fit but I would be able to squeeze through.....she assured me that I shouldn't worry, as she plans to stick a fork in me before I leave. :D




Quote from: 7express on January 30, 2014, 11:02:46 PM
Too bad Plattsburgh's interview started right as I started class this morning. >:(  I HATE how that school thing gets in the way, such a buzzkill.  Anyways, I'm sure Magic did a great job on the interview, and hopefully Hoopsville archives this 12 hour show today.  Since I was gone for most of the day anyways (damn classes  >:() I was only able to listen to about 45 minutes of it late this afternoon.

7,
Dave mentioned to me yesterday that the 12 hour marathon show was indeed being taped and would be available on demand like the other shows.   

After beating the wife for the umpteenth time by 100+ points in our Thursday Night Scrabble Word War, Pep is thinking the wife may need to resort to similar measures as Mrs. Magicman...   +K

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 31, 2014, 10:37:14 AM
Magic- I wasn't able to hear the interview, but I know that you are the most up-to-date poster on this site. Not to slight other well informed posters, but you are "THE MAN!" Now don't let your "head get too big for the doorway." Thanks for all your informative post --Keep up the good work--I enjoy it!! And I agree with your Coach Curle assessment--known him for years and great job at the Burg!!GO BPort Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 31, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Off topic question: How does one receive or give out "Karma" on these boards?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 31, 2014, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on January 31, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Off topic question: How does one receive or give out "Karma" on these boards?

Once you reach 200 posts you'll see applaud/and smite underneath a posters name.  Applaud gives then +1 karma, smite gives them -1 karma.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on January 31, 2014, 02:16:04 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 31, 2014, 01:04:55 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on January 31, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Off topic question: How does one receive or give out "Karma" on these boards?

Once you reach 200 posts you'll see applaud/and smite underneath a posters name.  Applaud gives then +1 karma, smite gives them -1 karma.

Thank you!  You are 146 posts from me away from getting a bump up!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2014, 03:38:17 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on January 31, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Off topic question: How does one receive or give out "Karma" on these boards?

NYHOOPS I see where 7express explained the karma conundrum to you. One other thing about the applaud /smite feature is you can only give or take away karma once every 24 hours. I gave you a bump last night  for your kind words and consequently I can't repeat that action until 24 hours have gone by. That's to prevent someone from piling on the bad K or overdoing the good K in a short period of time. When you look at your karma tomorrow (or later tonight) it will be at # 9 (at  least) since I plan to give you another plus K later this evening.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2014, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 31, 2014, 10:37:14 AM
Magic- I wasn't able to hear the interview, but I know that you are the most up-to-date poster on this site. Not to slight other well informed posters, but you are "THE MAN!" Now don't let your "head get too big for the doorway." Thanks for all your informative post --Keep up the good work--I enjoy it!! And I agree with your Coach Curle assessment--known him for years and great job at the Burg!!GO BPort Eagles!!!!

scooter,

If you're interested here's a link to the full 12 hour marathon broadcast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGtFWVg8NKc

The Plattsburgh segment is about 1 hour and 9 minutes after the broadcast starts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2014, 07:27:13 PM
Four games on tap tonight in the conference.


New Paltz State  at  Potsdam State   8:00 PM

The Hawks need some wins in a hurry if they hope to get back in the playoff race. Tonight is probably a good place to start as they face the winless in the conference, Bears. The teams split their series last year with each winning at home and the Hawks were able to squeak out a 66-64 win just 2 weeks ago. The points spread favors new Paltz by a 7 point margin but I'm going to go out on a limb here and pick the bears topull off the upset and get into the win column in the conference. I think the final score will be 71-68 Potsdam.


Oswego State  at  Buffalo State   8:00 PM

The Lakers and the Bengals are tied for 4th place, along with 2 other teams, so both will be looking to get a little separation tonight. Lakers won the first meeting in Oswego by a 15 point margin. They have also won 6 of the last 7 meetings. Despite that the oddsmakers have made the Bengals a very slight 2 point favorite. I trhink the bengals will look to avenge that double digit defeat earlier this month and win tonight by an 81-77 score.


Cortland State  at  Fredonia State  8:00 PM

These Red Dragons are also looking to break out of that logjam that is 4th place. They have found a good spot to do so or so it would seem. Fredonia has some game but the question is can they keep it together for 40 minutes. That's  always been a problem with young teams. Cortland has got growing pains of their own but should have the edge in this matchup. The pointspread favors the Red Dragons by an 11 point margin but they have to finish this team off when they have the opportunity. too often this year the Red Dragons have failed to do so. The final score should be Cortland 76 Fredonia 63.
   

Oneonta State  at  Plattsburgh State   8:00 PM

Plattsburgh has matched its longest winning streak of the season by reeling off 5 in a row. Tonight they hope to extend that streak and keep a firm hold on 3rd place and possibly move into 2nd place after the Saturday meeting between Brockport and Geneseo. Just 2 weeks ago the Cardinals defeated these Red Dragons for the 13th straight time.  That streak has to end sometime. As much as Oneonta would like a win here, to break out of the pack of teams tied in the 4th spot, I don't thonk their losing streak to Plattsburgh will end tonight. The point spread has the Cardinals favored by 12 points and that may be about right. I think the cardinals win this one bu an 85-72 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2014, 09:10:04 PM
Implausibly, my beloved Bears lead NP 44-31 at the half on Bear Pride night.  Go Bears.

Balanced Scoring led by Tom graf and Joe Estramonte with 9, Keegan Donovan has 18 of the Hawk's 31 at the Half, as he is 7-7 from the stripe and 3-5 from the arc.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2014, 10:06:41 PM
Final scores:

Plattsburgh State 77 Oneonta State 54


Oswego State 72 Buffalo State 70


Cortland State 70 Fredonia State 35

Potsdam State  Leads New Paltz State 75-68 with 1:45 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2014, 10:26:14 PM
Potsdam 86-81 as Rishawd Hendricks makes 7x8 down the stretch in a foul shooting contest vs. Layup Drill.

Keegan Donovan for 27 and Taylor Sowah 20 for the Hawks, the Bears got 17 each from Joe Estramonte and Zach Adams, 15 from Rob Duquette and 11 from Hendricks.

83 free throws and 54 fouls called.  Guess the zebras will need new whistles for tomorrow.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2014, 10:33:31 PM
Final score in Potsdam as the Bears break through and spring a mild upset on the Hawks.

Potsdam 86 New Paltz 81



Edit:  Bear, free throws and layups I guess. The 2 teams scored 30 points between them in the final 3 minutes of the game. I guess the fans got their money's worth. Glad the Bears could win one finally and did it on a night that I picked them to do so. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2014, 10:42:53 PM
Nice Job Magic 3x4 tonight, although Bengals has best circle the wagons after tonight. 

They still have the North Country Swing to make and the Brockport Geneseo pairing, 5 - 5 + 2 - 4 probably doesnt = playoffs.

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2014, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 31, 2014, 10:33:31 PM
Edit:  Bear, free throws and layups I guess. The 2 teams scored 30 points between them in the final 3 minutes of the game. I guess the fans got their money's worth. Glad the Bears could win one finally and did it on a night that I picked them to do so. 8-)

Very painful to watch,  Bears defended the three well, but would give up an uncontested two.  Hawks fouled instantly and forced Potsdam to make their FT's  last three minutes took like 20 to play.

A wins a win..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 12:02:09 AM
Plattsburgh State 77 Oneonta 54

The final score is closer than this game really was. Plattsburgh jumped out to a 9-2 lead, stretched it to 18-5 by the 11 minute mark and was up 29-9 with 6:09 left in the half. The Cardinals brought the fans to their feet several times in the half with some monster dunks by the X-man, Xavier Thomas, who had 2 of them. Shavar Fields and Shamoy NcIntosh got into the act as well with some throwdowns. The Red Dragons just ran into a buzzsaw tonight as the Cardinals were just humming along. Defensively they held Oneonta to just 9 points for the 1st 15 minutes of the half and forced the Red Dragons into 13 turnovers in the initial 20 minutes. I was a little apprehensive coming into this game knowing how well Oneonta had played against Brockport last week. The Cardinals put their foot on the accelerator, though and didn't let up.

The Cards opened the 2nd half with 2 quick baskets by Shavar Fields and a drive by Chris Manning to offset a 3 pointer by Dan Lee and a layup by Kareem Williams. Then the Cardinals scored 5 unanswered baskets, by 5 different players, to put 12 more points on the board and suddenly the score was 60-29 and this game was over with 12:40 left to play. Shortly after that explosion by Plattsburgh both coaches emptied their benches and the reserves played a spirited game with everyone trying to break into the scoring column for both teams over the final 10 minutes.. Oneonta had 14 players from their 16 man roster get on the board led by Mikey McElroy with 10 points. No other Red Dragon had double figures. Larry Brink led the Dragons with 7 rebounds. Oneonta's Zach Mager did not have one of his better nights with only 4 points and 4 rebounds. Zach torched the Cardinals for 28 points in their last meeting and Plattsburgh obviously made plans to shut him down this time around. They limited his touches and double teamed him when he did get the ball, effectively taking away the Red Dragon's number one weapon. Mager has been a scoring machine this season and this was only the  2nd time all year he has failed to hit double figures. 

THe Red Dragons had an off night shooting the ball as they were only 22x59 from the field (35.6%), 5x20 from downtown (25%)and just 7x12 from the line (58.3%). The Red Dragons average nearly eight made three pointers per game at a 40% success rate. The Cardinals took that away from them as well. Oneonta ended up with 19 turnovers to 13 for Plattsburgh. The Cardinals had an edge off the glass as well 43-38.

Plattsburgh was led by Shavar Fields with game highs of 15 points (2x10 fg, 5x6 ft) and 7 rebounds. Shamoy McIntosh was listed with 15 points as well but the man affectionately called "The Computer" by yours truly did get a little help from the computer I believe. I think the official scorer gave Shamoy a 2 point dunk that was made by Xavier Thomas. Never mind!! Shamoy had 15 points (7x13 fg, 1x2 3's, 0x2 ft), 4 rebounds, 4 steals and a block. The X-man, Xavier Thomas was next with 8 points (4x6 fg, 0x1 3's, 0x5 ft) with 2 rebounds and 2 blocks in 14 minutes of floor time. Ed Correa had 8 points and 4 rebounds, and John Perez tied Fields with 7 rebounds. Chris Manning had 7 points, 3 rebounds 3 assists and 2 steals in just 19 minutes. The entire 13 man roster scored at least 2 points and every player got at least 8 minutes of court time.

The Cardinals shot 31x66 from the field (47%), 6x14 from 3 point land (42.9%), but only 9x20 (45%) from the line.

Plattsburgh ups their record to 14-3 overall and keeps the teams that are below them in the YAC, at bay, with an 8-2 conference log.
Tomorrow The Hawks from New Paltz fly into the 'Burgh and they will be looking to pull off an upset similar to what they did exactly one  year ago when they beat the Cards 75-72 on a last second 3 pointer.

Oneonta drops to 8-10 overall and 5-6 in the YAC. They fall out of a 4th place tie and into a 6th tie with the Bengals. Having lost to Buffalo State earlier, Oneonta is technically in 7th place. The Red Dragons now travel over to Potsdam to take on the red hot Bears tomorrow afternoon. Something's gotta give in that game. Can Potsdam possibly win 2 in a row? Can Oneonta regroup and hold onto a playoff position? Tune into tomorrow for the answers, same bat time, same bat channel... Apologies to Adam West. :D   

Edit to correct scoring error: Shamoy McIntosh did indeed have 15 points and a dunk I creidted to the Xman was Shamoys. Made the changes.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 12:12:16 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 31, 2014, 10:42:53 PM
Nice Job Magic 3x4 tonight, although Bengals has best circle the wagons after tonight. 

They still have the North Country Swing to make and the Brockport Geneseo pairing, 5 - 5 + 2 - 4 probably doesnt = playoffs.

The Bengals are living dangerously, but I still see them in the playoffs. I think they will finish ahead of Fredonia, the Bears, New Paltz and Oneonta. The season sweep by Oswego hurts and they need to beat Cortland tomorrow to avoid another season sweep there. 5th place is still a possiblity pending tomorrow's outcome. The real key will be what happens when Buffalo State plays at Oneonta on Feb. 8th. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 01, 2014, 10:52:02 AM
I'm surprised with Buffalo State this year. They have been a hard team to figure out. They have played alot of close games and have been on the losing end of them far too many times. One thing is for certain, if they can sneak into the playoffs, thats not a team you want to play in the 1st round.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on February 01, 2014, 10:52:02 AM
I'm surprised with Buffalo State this year. They have been a hard team to figure out. They have played alot of close games and have been on the losing end of them far too many times. One thing is for certain, if they can sneak into the playoffs, thats not a team you want to play in the 1st round.

That is absolutely the truth NYHOOPS. This is a team that had high expectations but as the losses have piled up, their hopes for postseason play have dwindled down to a single option....win the YAC tournament or go home.

I almost hope they do that since we have 3 other teams, that (right now) all look good. It's one of the only ways that the SUNYAC might be a 3 bid league. Notice I said almost, because I'm obviously rooting for Plattsburgh to win the automatic bid. And I really think Brockport is a team that can do some damage in the tournament so I want them dancing as well. It's hard to know what the NCAA selection committee will do, so the best option is to not have that option. Win the automatic bid and know you're in. That's what every team is shooting for, and that also helps determine if you might be hosting or traveling in the early rounds. Getting 3 bids from the SUNYAC is a long shot at best and I certainly don't want my Cardinals missing out because the Bengals win the automatic bid and Brockport is the 1st team chosen from the East for a Pool C bid. I would feel considerably uncomfortable, for the remainder of the selection process, on that Monday, knowing that the only way my Cardinals get to the Dance is if we ARE a 3 bid league.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 02:33:45 PM
All 10 teams in action today.

Really pressed for time so I can only post my predicted scores today without the normal banter.


Oswego State   at     Fredonia State      4:00 PM

The Lakers shouldn't have a problem here or they could end up with a problem down the road.  Lakers favored by 12 and they should cover that margin. Oswego wins 75-58

   
   
New Paltz State   at   Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM

Cardinals had a letdown against the Hawks one year ago to the day and it cost them a chance to host the playoffs last year. They gave up an 8 point lead with less than 3 minutes to play and lost on a last second 3 pointer. I don't think that will happen today on the Cardinals home court. Point spread has them favored by 18 points and if they play like they did yesterday the margin will be bigger. Cards win this one by an 84- 64 score.

   
   
Cortland State   at   Buffalo State      4:00 PM

Both teams need a win here but the Bengals need it more. I'll go with them in a pick em contest. Buffalo State wins this one 86-82.

   
   
Oneonta State   at      Potsdam State      4:00 PM

Can the Bears win 2 in a row? Probably not. And the oddsmakers don't think so either as the have the Red Dragon listed as a 9 point favorite. I'll take the Bears despite that spread as they claw their way to another win in the high point of their season. Potsdam 75 Oneonta 72.

   
   
Geneseo State  at     Brockport State      8:00 PM


The game of the week at Tuttle North Gym as the top 2 teams square off in a battle for 1st place. With the earlier meeting postponed because of bad weather, this is the first meeting of the nationally ranked #20 Golden Eagles and the #37 Geneseo Knights. They will hook up again just 10 days from now when Brockport will be the visiting team. Oddsmakers have made the Eagles a healthy  8 point favorite in this contest, which surprises me a bit as I think it will be a closer encounter. I'll take the Golden Eagles at home, though by an 84-80 final score.     
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 01, 2014, 03:23:26 PM
Circle the wagons indeed!  Toughest loss in recent memory last night.  :-[ Gave up game winner with .6 seconds left on the clock, after missing 2 free throws!  >:( . No time to feel sorry for ourselves though with the Red Dragons now sitting in the arena directly across from me! I gotta give to the Ross kid from Oswego.  He "willed" his team to victory last night.  Gutsy performance. Hopefully our boys will learn from last night and his example. Gotta win at least 3 of these next 5 (plus beat Oneonta) to have a chance

Go BENGALS!

Ps congrats to thebear and Potsdam. Oddly enough after the game yesterday I went to drown my sorrows in a game of "craps" at Seneca Niagara.  One dealer asked my where had I been earlier ( since I was in Bengal gear).  I explained what and where I had been. He then talked about his glory days at Potsdam and something about a guy named Jerry Welsh?!?! We had a good conversation about the state of basketball in the Yac and also E8 and the liberty league also! He "Rob"is a very proud Potsdam alum!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 06:24:18 PM
Final scores from today's action.


Plattsburgh State 90  New Paltz 78


Buffalo State 90 Cortland State 83  in overtime

Shocker of the Day    Fredonia State 68 Oswego State 66 in overtime

Oneonta State 81   Potsdam State 77

Back to another logjam for 4th place as Oswego failed to capitalize on their good fortune from last night. Getting a last second win against the Bengals on Friday and facing a team tied for last place in the YAC on Saturday, should have give them sole possession of 4th place at the end of today's action. Instead all 4 teams that entered the weekend tied for the 4th spot with 5-5 records, Cortland, Oswego, Buffalo State, and Oneonta, are still tied for the 4th spot with 6-6 records...only in the YAC. ???

Lots of exciting basketball all over the state today in the league, with the game of the week yet to come for an encore.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 07:27:08 PM
Just got off the phone a few minutes ago with a certain Bengal supporter from this board. Certainly in a better frame of mind than he was last night. Something to do with an overtime win today that kept his "beloved Bengals"still in 4th place and tied with the pack. 8-)

Or maybe it was the fact that his little sister came through with Superbowl tickets and he's flying into the Big Apple in the morning to join his brother (I think) for the big game. Must be nice!!! ;D  Enjoy the game my friend, hope you're rooting for Peyton.

My crystal ball say a good offense beats a good defense. Final score:   Broncos 32 Seahawks 22. Why?  Cause my sucky numbers, in the big pool I'm in, ($2500.00 every score change) are 2-2. I don't know if you can have 2 worse numbers. :P >:( :( :'( 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 01, 2014, 08:39:14 PM
Is this Brockport Geneseo game being filmed by someone in the first row on a phone camera??  Really weird camera angle the whole half in what is looking like a pretty good game tied at 24.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 08:57:02 PM
The game of the week between Brockport and Geneseo is living up to its billing so far, as the teams go into the locker rooms tied at 24 at the break.

The first 8 minutes saw the teams jockey back and forth with numerous ties and lead changes until Geneseo opened up a 20-11 margin with 10 minutes to play. Led by Gordon Lyons with 11 points and Connor Fedge with 7 the Knights kept the lead throughout most of the half. The Golden Eagles kept the full court pressure up though, and eventually pulled within 2 points with 1:42 left in the period on an old fashioned 3 point play by Clifton Lyerly. With 26 seconds remaining Lyerly got loose with a steal and slammed one down to tie the game going into halftime. Lyerly ended the half with 11 points. Matt Lee had 5 and Dorian Hayden had 4. Brockport's star performer John Ivy was held scoreless in the first period. I'm sure that will change in the next 20 minutes though.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 01, 2014, 09:12:45 PM
What number is Ivy Magic??  Watching this game on-line, first time I've seen either team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 09:28:12 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 01, 2014, 08:39:14 PM
Is this Brockport Geneseo game being filmed by someone in the first row on a phone camera??  Really weird camera angle the whole half in what is looking like a pretty good game tied at 24.

It is a good game 7, and I think the camera angle is just that a student is operating it probably from about 3/4 of the way up in the bleachers and is using the zoom feature on the camera quite liberally, especially as the ball is brought upcourt..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 09:29:47 PM
Sorry 7 I was on the phone with Mrs magicman and missed a bunch of the action. Ivy is #3. Brandon Caruthers is #22, also a very good guard.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 09:30:50 PM
7, is your video breaking up?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 01, 2014, 09:39:30 PM
Magicman.....Saw your HBC's  daughter play a heady game in a lost to Amherst on Bowdoin's senior day.  Good game between two ranked WBB teams. Impressed with the defense and alert play and ball handling of the FY player.  Played 23 good minutes on the floor.  Nice to see FY players guard each other.....both will leave their mark in the years ahead.
FYI, Amherst won in it's game against the ranked Polar Bear MBB team. Also a good game...a close win for Amherst on the road.  Good chance the two teams could meet again in the conference tournament.  Had to add this latter report in that this is a MBB board. :) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 09:40:40 PM
Crunch time in Brockport. 1:19 to go Brockport with the ball and down 56-54. They go inside to the big man Coyle who makes a layup for the tie. John Ivy then gets a steal and scores to put the Eagles up 58-56 but Geneseo comes back with a basket by Gordon Lyons to tie it up and send it to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
Brockport and Geneseo still tied at 62 with 2:54 left in OT.

Port gets another free throw from Clifton Lyerly and goes in front 63-62. Another pair of free throws by Patrick Coyle extends the lead to 65-62. Andy Dreschler makes 1 of 2 ft's for the Knights  to make it 65-63.

Lyerly goes to the line for Brockport and gets 1 of 2 ft. and Port gets the rebound on the miss.  John Ivy gets fouled and he makes them both to up the lead to 68-63.

Geneseo's Connor Fedge  scores and is fouled he gets the ft to go. Now 68-66 with 23 seconds left.

Brockport inbounds to Ivy and he is fouled with 15 seconds on the clock.  He misses the first one, makes the 2nd and Geneseo commits a turnover as Brandon Caruthers gets a steal. Ivy is fouled again and he makes them both to up the lead to 71-66. Geneseo gets a layup to make the score 71-68. Ivy is fouled once again and makes 2 more from the line to make the final score 73-68.

That's why this one was the game of the week. Brockport remains undefeated in conference play at 10-0 and Geneseo is now in 3rd place at 8-2. Plattsburgh moves into 2nd place with a 9-2 record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 01, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 01, 2014, 09:30:50 PM
7, is your video breaking up?

Mine broke up for a couple minutes, went over to the Augie Wheaton game, and when I came back it was fine.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2014, 10:18:24 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 01, 2014, 10:06:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 01, 2014, 09:30:50 PM
7, is your video breaking up?

Mine broke up for a couple minutes, went over to the Augie Wheaton game, and when I came back it was fine.

Thanks 7, mine would break up,  then be normal for a very short time and then break up again. That process kept repeating throughout the 2nd half. The first half was fine though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2014, 10:01:35 PM
Just finished watching Super Bore XLVIII as so many of them are.    Instead, I'll take Plattsburgh State vs Buffalo State, or Plattsburgh State vs Brockport State where it's a good game, everytime. 8-) ;D

I know my Buffalo friend liked the Seahawks... I hope he had a few coins on them. ;)

My 2-2 numbers I had in the superbowl pool at least gave me a little hope when the safety occurred on the 1st play from scrimmage. :o Alas it was not to be. :P A second 2 was to much to ask for. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 02, 2014, 10:01:35 PM
Just finished watching Super Bore XLVIII as so many of them are.    Instead, I'll take Plattsburgh State vs Buffalo State, or Plattsburgh State vs Brockport State where it's a good game, everytime. 8-) ;D

I know my Buffalo friend liked the Seahawks... I hope he had a few coins on them. ;)

My 2-2 numbers I had in the superbowl pool at least gave me a little hope when the safety occurred on the 1st play from scrimmage. :o Alas it was not to be. :P A second 2 was to much to ask for. :(

Yes your friend had a few bucks on Seattle and I enjoyed the game!  The seahawk fans looked like they were outnumbered by Broncofans but they were twice asxliud as Bronci fans!! And as the game grew on, they got LOUDER. Unfortunately after the game a major transport snafu took place.  Such that I am now just leaving MetLife after being stuck 2 hours because none if the trains were moving.  My sis , brother and I actually went back I dude and sat in the Chase Club, which resembled JFK airport on a night when all the flights were cancelled. Folks sitting in the floor any and everywher( even outside the bathrooms).  You can be sure that Ny/Nj won't be hosting any ire SuoerBowls in our lifetime . I feel sorry fir the folks who got in live as the game ended thinking that they would be buarding a train inky to have to stand, outside, for over 90 minutes.   And those who had children. My prayers go out to you! Typing on my phone is rough so please excuse any typos!!!

Back to Buffalo tommorrow morning and getting geared up for New Paltz and Oneonta!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2014, 07:02:12 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
Back to Buffalo tommorrow morning and getting geared up for New Paltz and Oneonta!

You're not the one that needs to get geared up for this weekend. It's the 14 young men on the Buffalo State roster that need to do that. You tell Justin and the boys that if they don't win both games this weekend I'm going to give all my Buffalo State gear away. :-[ 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 03, 2014, 10:29:58 AM
I guess the Bport Eagles aren't just the "Ivy and Caruthers gang."They have some real "hombres to add to the posse." Way to go Eagles--Just keep that train moving forward!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2014, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 03, 2014, 07:02:12 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
Back to Buffalo tommorrow morning and getting geared up for New Paltz and Oneonta!

You're not the one that needs to get geared up for this weekend. It's the 14 young men on the Buffalo State roster that need to do that. You tell Justin and the boys that if they don't win both games this weekend I'm going to give all my Buffalo State gear away. :-[

Hold on to that gear!!!

Quote from: scooterman on February 03, 2014, 10:29:58 AM
I guess the Bport Eagles aren't just the "Ivy and Caruthers gang."They have some real "hombres to add to the posse." Way to go Eagles--Just keep that train moving forward!!!

You are right there Scooter.  The Eagles play at least 10 every game. After the Bengals went up 10-2 during thier visit to Brockport, Dunne brought in a whole new 5 and they didn't miss a beat. U must admit though, having Ivy and Carruthers on your team ain't a bad thing!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 03, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2014, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 03, 2014, 07:02:12 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
Back to Buffalo tommorrow morning and getting geared up for New Paltz and Oneonta!

You're not the one that needs to get geared up for this weekend. It's the 14 young men on the Buffalo State roster that need to do that. You tell Justin and the boys that if they don't win both games this weekend I'm going to give all my Buffalo State gear away. :-[

Hold on to that gear!!!

Quote from: scooterman on February 03, 2014, 10:29:58 AM
I guess the Bport Eagles aren't just the "Ivy and Caruthers gang."They have some real "hombres to add to the posse." Way to go Eagles--Just keep that train moving forward!!!

You are right there Scooter.  The Eagles play at least 10 every game. After the Bengals went up 10-2 during thier visit to Brockport, Dunne brought in a whole new 5 and they didn't miss a beat. U must admit though, having Ivy and Carruthers on your team ain't a bad thing!

Pep got a kick out of that, only because it stirred to memory commentators' remarks during Alfred-Stevens and Alfred-Utica recent webcasts. When Wellman pulled all the "starters" 3 or 4 minutes into the game, the commentator said, "Must be Coach Wellman saw something he didn't like from his starters."

Likewise, the Utica Pioneers were in the bonus just six or eight minutes into the game...and the commentator mentioned that the Saxons "were already in foul trouble" yet no one on the team had more than a foul or two!"

Coach Wellman's new systematic approach to the game is heretofore unknown to most E8 fans. If you check the Alfred stats, there's only one player who scores more than 10 points a game, and he averages 13.7 points per game, not a whole lot for a team that ranks second in the nation for scoring, around 100 points a game. But there's a slew of players averaging 5, 6, 7 or 8 points.

When Ryan Mahon hit the game-winning trey at the buzzer at Utica Friday night, the entire bench cleared and 21 players ended up tackled by his teammates at the far corner of the gym (see video link)....funny thing is, it was Mahon that night, but it could have been any one of them. Pep would love to play on a team like that, win or lose.

http://youtu.be/AvRq7DjkH-g (http://youtu.be/AvRq7DjkH-g)

On Saxon Warriors!


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
Getting their points from a lot of different players as Alfred does is a sign of depth and sharing the ball. Plattsburgh State has a statistic that I don't think many teams in any division can claim. Eight different players have led the team in scoring this season. Most schools have 2 or 3 players who consistently, night after night, grab the game's scoring honors. Some teams have enough depth that 4 or 5 players are the high men on any given night, but to have 8 different players do that in the course of season is a statistic you won't find very often.

Here's another stat that is a bit out of the ordinary, at least for the SUNYAC. There are only 33 teams in Division 3 that have 3 or less losses. Three of those 33 teams are in the YAC. They are, along with their D3hoops ranking,  #20 Brockport State 16-1, #37 Geneseo State 14-3, and #45 Plattsburgh State 15-3.

After Geneseo's loss to Brockport on Saturday, they may get a little less love and Plattsburgh, after another unbeaten week, may get a little more love, in the Top 25 poll that will come out later today. I expect Brockport will move up a few more spots, maybe into the top 15.

Massey's Ratings currently have Brockport ranked at #6, Plattsburgh at #18, and Geneseo at #37.

A big week upcoming for the Cardinals as Plattsburgh will face both of these other teams on the road this weekend. First up is a Friday night game at Brockport and then a Saturday afternoon matchup at Geneseo.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 03, 2014, 05:06:40 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 03, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
Getting their points from a lot of different players as Alfred does is a sign of depth and sharing the ball. Plattsburgh State has a statistic that I don't think many teams in any division can claim. Eight different players have led the team in scoring this season. Most schools have 2 or 3 players who consistently, night after night, grab the game's scoring honors. Some teams have enough depth that 4 or 5 players are the high men on any given night, but to have 8 different players do that in the course of season is a statistic you won't find very often.

Here's another stat that is a bit out of the ordinary, at least for the SUNYAC. There are only 33 teams in Division 3 that have 3 or less losses. Three of those 33 teams are in the YAC. They are, along with their D3hoops ranking,  #20 Brockport State 16-1, #37 Geneseo State 14-3, and #45 Plattsburgh State 15-3.

After Geneseo's loss to Brockport on Saturday, they may get a little less love and Plattsburgh, after another unbeaten week, may get a little more love, in the Top 25 poll that will come out later today. 

Massey's Ratings currently have Brockport ranked at #6, Plattsburgh at #18, and Geneseo at #37.

A big week upcoming for the Cardinals as Plattsburgh will face both of these other teams on the road this weekend. First up is a Friday night game at Brockport and then a Saturday afternoon matchup at Geneseo.

Alfred will have a similar big weekend Feb. 7-8. If the Saxons (14-4, 5-2 E8) can get a win at Elmira Tuesday (Feb. 4), they will still be tied in the loss column with the front-runners Stevens (14-5, 8-2 E8) and Hartwick (13-7, 8-2 E8), who appear at McLane Center Friday and Saturday, respectively.

Pep is hoping that the Ducks knock off Williams (16-3, 5-1 NESCAC) tomorrow night at the Canavan Arena so they'll be flying high when they arrive in Saxonville Friday. Saxons will need to brush up on their marksmanship for Friday's Duck Hunt. And gee whiz, while the Saxons are hunting fowl, the Hawks will be here on Saturday! A 3-0 week would have the Saxons in first place in the E8....hey, Pep can dream, can't he?

On Saxon Warriors!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2014, 06:10:07 PM
Those dreams are what keep us coming back, Pep! 8-)  Go Saxons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 03, 2014, 09:31:23 PM
Hey Magic, you mind if I start with spread picks over on the LEC board??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 03, 2014, 09:31:23 PM
Hey Magic, you mind if I start with spread picks over on the LEC board??

7,
Not sure what you're asking me,but i doubt if I would mind. Spread picks on what?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 03, 2014, 10:13:02 PM
How you do YAC picks, you put a spread total on it.  Here I'll give an example from your New Paltz/Potsdam preview from over the weekend: "The points spread favors new Paltz by a 7 point margin"
and another from Oswego/Buffalo state "Despite that the oddsmakers have made the Bengals a very slight 2 point favorite."

I was going to put odds, probably a better word, on the LEC picks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2014, 10:21:04 PM
Here's my post from earlier this afternoon.

Quote from: magicman on February 03, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
There are only 33 teams in Division 3 that have 3 or less losses. Three of those 33 teams are in the YAC. They are, along with their D3hoops ranking,  #20 Brockport State 16-1, #37 Geneseo State 14-3, and #45 Plattsburgh State 15-3.

After Geneseo's loss to Brockport on Saturday, they may get a little less love and Plattsburgh, after another unbeaten week, may get a little more love, in the Top 25 poll that will come out later today. I expect Brockport will move up a few more spots, maybe into the top 15.

Massey's Ratings currently have Brockport ranked at #6, Plattsburgh at #18, and Geneseo at #37.

A big week upcoming for the Cardinals as Plattsburgh will face both of these other teams on the road this weekend. First up is a Friday night game at Brockport and then a Saturday afternoon matchup at Geneseo.


The Top 25 for Week #9 has been released and as I mentioned in my post above Brockport has moved into the Top 15. Their point total increased from 140 to 241, a healthy gain, as they jumped over the following 5 teams....#13 SUNY-Purchase, #14 Augustana, #16 Albertus Magnus, #18 Wittenberg, and #19 Bowdoin.

After Brockport beat Plattsburgh on Jan 11th, I've been emailing Coach Dunne to predict what the Golden Eagles would do between Jan 11th and February 6th.  I correctly told him they would go 3-0, 3-0, and 2-0 over the next 3 weeks and would crack the Top 25 in week 7, move up some in week 8 and move up some more in week 9. My hope was that Brockport was high enough in the Top 25 Poll so that when my Cardinals show up on Feb 7th, if we win that game, they will still continue to be ranked and quite possibly my Cardinals might get ranked as well. So far everything has went according to plan. (Well almost...see the comment below)

Geneseo also had a gain in their point total as they went from 6 to 12 points and moved up from #37 to #35. I thought the voters might drop them with the loss to Brockport on Saturday but taking the Golden Eagles to overtime on the road shouldn't (and apparently wasn't) held against them.

A little surprised that Plattsburgh State lost what little love they had (1 point) and failed to impress the voters after another undefeated week. They stretched their winning streak to a season high 7 games over the weekend. They own a head to head victory over Geneseo, have a better SOS than the Knghts do, and have better out of conference wins than Geneseo  The Cardinals don't have a bad loss among their 3 setbacks and as I mentioned earlier are one of only 33 teams with 3 losses or less in D3. Maybe after this weekend if  Plattsburgh goes 2-0 again they will get some recognition. I certainly think they should be in the ORV category of the Top 25 poll at the very least.

For the time being I'll have to be content with Mr. Massey's rankings, that have my Plattsburgh State Cardinals at #18 in the country. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2014, 10:22:28 PM
7express,

I'm sending you a personal message, shortly.  Check it out
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 04, 2014, 08:19:44 AM
I can see why Geneseo might not drop in the rankings with an OT loss to Bport at Bport; but don't understand the fickledness of the Burg dropping out all together. Hey, they control their own destiny with a big weekend at the Port and Geneseo. My prediction is 0-2 for the Burg. Sorry Magic but looooooong trip is going to do them in. Go Eagles!!!! Keep them rolling Coach Dunne!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 04, 2014, 08:43:44 AM
Count me in as being surprised Geneseo received more votes than Plattsburgh. Nothing against Geneseo, just hard to figure out how you can put them ahead of someone in their own conference that beat them and has a better resune,
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 10:13:58 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 04, 2014, 08:19:44 AM
I can see why Geneseo might not drop in the rankings with an OT loss to Bport at Bport; but don't understand the fickledness of the Burg dropping out all together. Hey, they control their own destiny with a big weekend at the Port and Geneseo. My prediction is 0-2 for the Burg. Sorry Magic but looooooong trip is going to do them in. Go Eagles!!!! Keep them rolling Coach Dunne!!!!

Well, scooter, I can't say you will be wrong because the Cardinals have went 0-2 on that long trip in the past. They have also gone 2-0 on that same long trip. I told Coach Curle I'd be happy if the team came home 1-1 after the weekend, but ultimately I'd like the Cardinals to host the SUNYAC Final Four. In order to do that, they have to win both of these games, then have Geneseo beat Brockport when the Golden Eagles visit Geneseo a week from today on Feb. 11th. We'll then hold the tiebreaker over Brockport if we both end up with 2 losses. Another loss by the Cardinals this weekend, especially if it's to Brockport, will leave the battle for the top spot between the Golden Eagles and Geneseo. And if Plattsburgh should lose to Brockport and beat Geneseo then I think that Brockport will have just about clinched the regular season title. An awful lot on the line this weekend with my Cardinals right in the middle of everything. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2014, 10:31:39 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 04, 2014, 08:19:44 AM
I can see why Geneseo might not drop in the rankings with an OT loss to Bport at Bport; but don't understand the fickledness of the Burg dropping out all together. Hey, they control their own destiny with a big weekend at the Port and Geneseo. My prediction is 0-2 for the Burg. Sorry Magic but looooooong trip is going to do them in. Go Eagles!!!! Keep them rolling Coach Dunne!!!!

When you only appear on a couple of ballots in the first place (or in this case, only one), it doesn't take much to knock you out. Each person is not voting for almost 400 teams. If one of them impresses enough to take that last spot on the one ballot, that's it ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 12:42:07 PM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week was named yesterday afternoon and Plattsburgh State's senior forward Shavar Fields was chosen for the week ending Feb. 2nd. It was the first time in Shavar's career that he has earned this honor. I thought the award was between Fields or Shamoy McIntosh who also had a good week as the Cardinals went 2-0. Shamoy won this award 2 weeks ago so it was Shavar's turn this week. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

Shavar Fields, Plattsburgh State
Albany, N.Y. / Bishop Maginn


"Senior forward Shavar Fields helped the Plattsburgh State men's basketball team move into second place in the SUNYAC standings last weekend. The Albany, N.Y., product nearly averaged a double-double (17 points, 9.5 rebounds per game) and shot 54.5 percent from the field in another pair of conference triumphs for the Cardinals. His free throw percentage of 72.4 is the ninth-best in the SUNYAC so far this season."


 
Shavar had game highs in both points (15) and rebounds (7) in the win over Oneonta last Friday. The Cardinals were so dominant in that game that the starters were on the bench early as they built up a 30 point lead and the game was turned over to the reserves. Shavar only had 22 minutes of floor time in the game.

The next day against New Paltz, Shavar scored 19 points and completed his double double with a career high 12 rebounds. For the 2 games he was 12x22 from the field and 10x14 from the line. He also had several dunks over the weekend that were quite impressive and one of them would have made the plays of the night on ESPN if they had it on film. 8-)

Friday marked the 5th time that he has led the Cardinals in scoring this year. Congratulations to Shavar who has had an outstanding season to date.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 01:37:11 PM
A quick recap of the games that took place on Saturday night.

Plattsburgh State 90 New Paltz 78         

The Cardinals opened up big leads in this game but the Hawks wouldn't go away. Twice they came back from 14 point deficit in the 1st half to get as close as 5 points but were down by 8 at the end of the period. Shavar Fields had a big 1st half for the Cards with 16 points.

The Cardinals opened the 2nd half and it looked like they were going to run the Hawks out of Memorial Hall. An 18-5 burst opened up a 21 point lead at 64-43 but the Cardinals got careless, started firing up 3 pointers that were off the mark, giving up easy baskets on the interior and the Hawks fought back with a run of their own. Over the next 5 minutes New Paltz went on an 18-2 spurt that brought them within 5 points at 66-61 with 9:06 to play. Plattsburgh went back up by 9 but the Hawks cut it to 4 with 6:35 to play. Shamoy McIntosh then caught fire and scored 8 of the Cardinals next 13 points as Plattsburgh once again opened up a double digit margin. This time the Hawks could only foul and hope but Plattsburgh went 6x6 from the stripe down the stretch to close the game out.

Shamoy McIntosh led the Cards with 23 points. Shavar Fields had 19 points and 12 rebounds. Ed Correa and Ezra Hodgson both had 11 points. Chris Manning had 7 rebounds, 6 points, 4 steals and 4 assists. Plattsburgh had 11 three pointers in the game.

New Paltz was led by Sowah Taylor who had a game high 24 points along with 10 rebounds. Keegan Donovan had 17 points and Kevin Roach had 13.

Plattsburgh is now 15-3 and has won a season high 7 games in a row. They improve to 9-2 in the conference and move into 2nd place, one half game ahead of Geneseo. Plattsburgh will travel to western New York this weekend for the big showdown with Brockport on Friday night and Geneseo on Saturday afternoon. 

New Paltz falls to 6-13 overall and 3-9 in the YAC. Their failure to win a game this past weekend has pretty much eliminated them from playoff contention, barring some kind of unbelievably wild finish, involving the 4 teams above them that all have a 3 game lead on the Hawks.

I had this one 84-64 Cards and it would have been fairly close to that if the guys had kept their focus, but the 21 point lead led them to forget some of the basics of the game. I'm sure that will be addressed in practice this week.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 04, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
Magic--Even though the Bport-Geneseo trip is long for Plattsburg and Potsdam; it isn't as difficult for them coming down here because of the close distance between Bport and Geneseo(approximately an hour ride depending on accomodations). In the north country it is a hike between games. Get in late and play early. I think much more difficult for Bport and Geneseo to make trip. Just my thoughts--another good reason to bring SUNY schools into East-West divisions.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 03:24:31 PM
Brockport State 73 Geneseo State 68   in overtime on Saturday

The game of the week was all of that as these two teams battled back and forth for the entire contest. They were tied at the end of the 1st half, and tied at the end of the 2nd. Geneseo enjoyed the largest lead of the 1st half at 9 points 22-13 only to have the Golden Eagles come all the way back as the Clifton Lyerly show made its way, front and center.  Clifton scored 9 straight points for the Eagles as the Knights could only manage a single score and Brockport got the lead down to 24-22. With 30 seconds left in the half and Geneseo setting up for 1 last shot, Lyerly stole the ball and raced downcourt for the jam to tie it up at 24 going into the break.

The 2nd half was a replay of the 1st. The first 7 minutes of the period was back and forth action with Geneseo maintaining a slight lead. Tied at 34, the Knights got a pair of free throws from Gordon Lyons, 6 straight points from Devon Anderson, a long bomb by Andy Drescher and the 11-0 run gave the Knights the largest lead of the game at 45-34 with 10 minutes left to play. Four minutes later, the Eagles, on the strength of back to back 3 pointers by Matt Lee, had the lead at 46-45, as Brockport one upped the Knights with a 12-0 run with 5:45 remaining. The remainder of the period would see 4 lead changes and 4 ties and when Brockport couldn't score on the final possession of regulation the teams headed for overtime.

Gordon Lyons opened the extra session with a layup to give Geneseo the quick lead, and after another trifecta by Matt Lee put Brockport up by 1, Lyons would make back to back trips to the charity stripe. He made 1 of 2 each time to put the Knights up 62-61 with 3 minutes to play, but it would be the last time the Knights enjoyed that distinction. The game turned into a free throw contest at that point and Brockport got a pair from Lyerly, plus a pair from Patrick Coyle, while Geneseo was turning the ball over on 2 consecutive  possessions. Down by 3 with 36 seconds left the Knights were forced to foul and John Ivy made them pay. Ivy was fouled 4 times in those final 36 ticks and he went 7 of 8 from the line to salt this one away.

Brockport got 19 points from Matt Lee who had five 3 pointers. Lee also had 6 rebounds 3 steals and 2 assists. Clifton Lyerly came off the bench and had 18 points on 6x10 from the field and 6x7 from the line. He had 4 rebounds 1 steal and 1 assists. I didn't look it up but I'm guessing the 18 points was a career high for the freshman who looks like he has an outstanding future at Brockport.
John Ivy was held scoreless in the first half but came back to lead all scorers in the final 25 minutes of action as he ended up with 13 points, 3 steals, 2 rebounds and 2 assists. Brandon Caruthers only had 5 points but had 6 assists and 6 steals. Patrick Coyle only had 4 points but was a force on defense, as he had a big game with 9 blocks and 8 rebounds. 9 blocks is not something you generally see in a D3 box score. Brockport took almost as many shots from 3 point distance in this game...31 as they did from inside the arc....38 (16x38). Both teams shot 22% from downtown, the difference was Port made 7 of their 31 attempts and Geneseo was 2 x9.

As usual, Geneseo was led by Gordon Lyons with 22 points and Connor Fedge with 18. In addition to his game high in points Lyons also was the leading rebounder in the contest with 14 boards. Matt Curry had 8 points, 8 rebounds a block and a steal. Surprise stat of the game...Geneseo only had 4 assists for the entire team. 1 each by 4 different players. For a team that passes the ball as well as the Knights do that's a strange statistic.

Brockport stretches their winning streak to 15 games, one of the longest in Division 3. They improve to 16-1 overall and 10-0 in the YAC. Their streak will be tested this weekend when North Country rival Plattsburgh State arrives at Tuttle North. The Cardinals have won before in Brockport and revenge will be on the minds of the Cardinals, as they let one get away earlier in the season, in Plattsburgh.

Geneseo falls to 14-3 overall and 8-2 in the conference. They now trail the Cardinals by a half game and the Knights saw their longest unbeaten streak in over 6 years come to an end after 8 straight wins. Their previous loss was at the hands of Plattsburgh back on January 10th in the 'Burgh and the longest winning streak the Knights have had in recent memory was at the start of the 2007-08 campaign when they reeled off 9 straight wins to open the season. Geneseo will have a chance at payback against the Cardinals as first Potsdam, then Plattsburgh, invade the Alumni Fieldhouse this weekend.

I had this game 84-80 with Brockport winning. A little less offense than I thought would happen but a much closer game than the point spread indicated.         

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 04, 2014, 03:24:53 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 04, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
Magic--Even though the Bport-Geneseo trip is long for Plattsburg and Potsdam; it isn't as difficult for them coming down here because of the close distance between Bport and Geneseo(approximately an hour ride depending on accomodations). In the north country it is a hike between games. Get in late and play early. I think much more difficult for Bport and Geneseo to make trip. Just my thoughts--another good reason to bring SUNY schools into East-West divisions.

How would you go??  Someone in the middle of the state whether it be Brockport/Geneseo/Oswego/or Cortland is going to get screwed being placed in the East.  Heres's how I'd place them:

West:
Buffalo
Brockport
Geneseo
Fredonia
Oswego

East:
Potsdam
Plattsburgh
Cortland
Oneonta
New Paltz

Think Cortland is slightly further east than those others.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
7,
Did you get my personal message on the spreads? And did it help? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 03:35:17 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 04, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
Magic--Even though the Bport-Geneseo trip is long for Plattsburg and Potsdam; it isn't as difficult for them coming down here because of the close distance between Bport and Geneseo(approximately an hour ride depending on accomodations). In the north country it is a hike between games. Get in late and play early. I think much more difficult for Bport and Geneseo to make trip. Just my thoughts--another good reason to bring SUNY schools into East-West divisions.

I don't buy it scooter, I make that Plattsburgh to Potsdam trip all the time for my business and it only takes me 80 minutes. You must have had bus drivers that took the scenic ride on route 11, instead of the quick trip via route 11B. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 04, 2014, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 04, 2014, 03:30:39 PM
7,
Did you get my personal message on the spreads? And did it help? ???

Yah.  Thanks a lot Magic!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 04, 2014, 04:36:22 PM
I think we did take the scenic route from Potsdam. I remember hopping on that bus to the Burg and never pulling in before 1 in the morning. It seemed like a long trip. I think they should bring back more of the SUNY teams to play in the conference. SUNYIT, Morrisville, Purchase, Old Westbury, etc. make 2 -10 team conferences and playoffs. This already had a little discussion but not sure of all the positives and negatives.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
Buffalo State 90 Cortland 83   on Saturday

This one certainly was a close second for the YAC game of the week. Both teams needed to win this game but after dropping a last second heartbreaker on Friday night to Oswego the Bengals needed it more than the Red Dragons did.

The Red Dragons hustled to the front as they quickly opened up a double digit lead after 6 minutes of action at 14-4. Cortland would eventually increase the lead to a 24-10 for the largest lead of the period before the Bengals got their act together and narrowed the margin to a 5 point 34-29 deficit at the half.

The teams traded baskets through the early stages of the 2nd half but Cortland continued to lead but never by more than  2 possessions. Buffalo State would get to within a point or 2 but couldn't get in front despite numerous opportunities to do so. With Cortland up by 1 at 43-42 the Red Dragons caught a break when Blair Estarfaa was fouled on a 3 point attempt. He went to the line and made all 3 free throws and after the Bengals Maurice Miles hit a jumper to cut it back to a 2 point game, T J Hefele hit a pair of free throws to make it 48-44. Justin Mitchell got a hoop and harm to cut it to one and Miles hit a jumper on the Bengals next trip down the floor and the big cats had their first lead of the game with 11:17 left to play. Five more lead changes and five ties would occur, with the last one coming on a 3 pointer by Rod Epps, to make it 74 all, with 19 seconds left to play, that sent it into overtime.

In the extra session, Buff State drew first blood and then got a steal and a dunk by Epps to make it 78-74. After another Cortland miss, offensive rebound and a turnover the Bengals got a pair of free throws from Jordan Glover. The Bengals went up by 7 after another turnover and foul by Cortland, and the Red Dragons could only counter with a single free throw of their own. Down by 6 with 1:26 left the foul parade started and the Bengals went 7 of 10 from the line to claim the hard fought win.

Chris Thompson led all scorers with a game high 22 points and a team high 7 rebounds. Rod Epps had 21 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assist. He also had the biggest shot of the day with his 3 pointer to send it to overtime. Justin Mitchell, as usual had a solid all around game with 15 points, a game high 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

Maurice Miles came off the bench with 16 points 3 rebounds and 2 dimes. Miles outscored the entire Cortland bench by himself and the contribution by the Bengal reserves may have been the biggest reason they got the W here. The bench for Buff State had a total of 32 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists and 5 steals. They were 12x19 from the field, 2x4 from long distance and 6x8 from the line, with only 4 turnovers. The reserves got a total of 98 minutes of court time, nearly half of the teams total. All benches should be this good.

By contrast the Cortland bench only played 47 minutes, scored 8 points, had 5 rebounds 3 assists, and a steal They committed 5 turnovers in half the court time as the Bengals reserves and were 3x7 from the field 0x2 from distance, and 2x5 from the line. The Cortland starters all scored in double digits but they had to have been a bit more fatigued than the Bengal starters and that clearly worked to the Bengals' advantage once the game got into an extra session.

Kevin McMahon and Lamard Herron both had 17 points to lead the Dragons in scoring. McMahon added 8 rebounds, 2 assists a steal and a block. Herron had 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Matt McGowan had a double double with 11 points and 10 rebounds. TJ Hefele had 16 points and 3 rebounds. Blair Estarfaa added 14 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

The Bengals got beat off the boards by a 37-30 margin but only had 15 turnovers to 19 for Cortland.

With the win, the logjam that existed before the weekend action started, has created another logjam between the same 4 teams (Buff St., Cortland, Oswego, and Oneonta) only they are now 6-6 instead of 5-5.

Buffalo State ups their overall record to 10-9 and will have 2 must win games this weekend when they travel east to take on New Paltz and then Oneonta. Two wins on the weekend will put them on the doorstep of the playoffs. The way I see it they would only need, at most, 1 more victory, to clinch a post-season spot, so with 4 games remaining and a game against last place Potsdam still to be played these 2 game upcoming will be huge for the Bengals. I know 9 wins will get you into the playoffs. Eight will do it if you own the tiebreaker over the other team with 8 wins.

Cortland drops to 11-8 overall and will host New Paltz tonight at 8 PM. They will then head on up to Oswego for their first matchup of the year against the Lakers. That game could have a major impact on where the playoff teams end up for seeding purposes.       

I had this game as a Buffalo State  win by an 86-82 score. Pretty close with the margin, the actual score and the total. I didn't count on the OT, though.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 06:55:33 PM
Only two games on the docket for tonight but both will have playoff ramifications.


Oneonta State  at  Oswego State      8:00 PM

These Red Dragons are slip sliding away as they have only 1 win in their past 6 conference games. Four of those losses however have come against the 3 top teams, not only in the SUNYAC, but in the entire East Region...Brockport, Plattsburgh twice, and Geneseo. Now they tackle a team that is tied with them for 4th place in the conference. They defeated the Lakers earlier 75-69 at Dewar Arena in what was considered a mild upset at the time. That gives them, for the moment the tiebreaker over Oswego should they finish in a tie. The Lakers cannot afford to lose tonight's game since that would effectively give Oneonta a 2 game lead over the Lakers. The oddsmakers have made the home team a 5 point favorite but I don't think the oddsmakers know that Oswego's exciting point guard, freshman Brian Sortino is out with what I've been told is a broken arm, I believe. Still the Lakers were able to go into Buffalo State last weekend and steal a win there without Sortino, before being upset by lowly Fredonia the next day. The Lakers will miss Sortino no doubt about it, but it's tough to go into Laker Hall and come away with a win. I'll go with Oswego to win a tight one here in a must win situation 70-67.
         
   
New Paltz State  at  Cortland State      8:00 PM

The Hawks have been stuck on 3 wins in the YAC for the past 5 games and getting swept last weekend put a freeze on their playoff hopes, colder than the Polar Vortex, we've been hearing so much about. The last team they beat was Potsdam, when the Bears traveled to New Paltz. When the Hawks went to Potsdam last weekend, they couldn't duplicate that effort. So despite owning a win over these Red Dragons, also in New Paltz, I don't have much faith that they can replicate that win again either. The point spread has Cortland favored by 9 and the Red Dragons need a win here to keep pace with the other teams locked in that 4 way tie. I think they get it by a 78-71 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 09:03:27 PM
The home teams are shooting the lights out and are both holding double digit leads at the half

Cortland 55 New Platz 29

Cortland opened the game with a 17-4 run to take command from the git go. Kevin McMahon is leading the way for the Red Dragons with 14 points. Live stats quit working about 7 minutes into the game so the other info is unavailable Did see a nice buzzer beater for three points by Chris Williams off a kick out pass by mcMahon at the end of the half


Oswego State 40 Oneonta State 25

Lakers came out strong as well and had a sizable lead early on at 19-8. The lead continued to grow and reached 16 points on several occasions before the teams went into the locker rooms with the 15 point differential.

Walter Sampson leads the Lkaers with 9 points. Elijah McLaurin has 8, and Daniel Ross has 7.

Zach Mager and Kareem Williams both have 7 points for the Red Dragons .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 09:41:14 PM
Both games winding down and Cortland has a huge lead over New Paltz 81-53 with the 2 minute warning now up.


Oswego still holding off Oneonta but those Red Dragons have narrowed the gap to 63-54, but are running out of time with just 1:48 left to play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2014, 10:00:09 PM
Final scores:

Cortland 84 New Paltz 56.   I had Cortland 78-71. I thought the Hawks would give them a game, but they were never in this one.

Oswego 71 Oneonta 61     I had this one a little closer as well with the Lakers winning 70-67.

Cortland along with Oswego break out of the 4 way log jam that was 4th place. Cortland and Oswego now share 4th place. Buffalo State is a half game back in 6th place and Oneonta has fallen from a tie for 4th down into 7th place.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 04, 2014, 10:41:35 PM
Sorry about the live stats, magicman. Wi-fi in the gym went down in the first half. Luckily the video crew was plugged into an ethernet outlet, so the video stayed on. I have to rely on wi-fi for my stats, though. Signal never came back on. Stats are now up on Cortland site and D3hoops.  - Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2014, 12:39:08 AM
Quote from: franelia on February 04, 2014, 10:41:35 PM
Sorry about the live stats, magicman. Wi-fi in the gym went down in the first half. Luckily the video crew was plugged into an ethernet outlet, so the video stayed on. I have to rely on wi-fi for my stats, though. Signal never came back on. Stats are now up on Cortland site and D3hoops.  - Fran

Thanks for the heads up Fran. 8-) You must have been reading my mind. I was at work watching the webcast and after the game was over I headed to the local Price Chopper for some groceries Mrs. magicman needed. When I got home we both had to watch The Tonight Show since Jay only has a couple of days left. :(  I was thinking about the live stats not working and wondered if it was my computer as I had a guy in my store today doing some work on it. I was getting set to post on the board and ask you if there was a problem with the live stats or if it was my computer. And voila, like magic, ;D  you have already answered my question.  Plus K   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 03:52:47 PM
Four games in conference play all scheduled to tip off at 8:00 PM tonight.

Potsdam State  at   Geneseo State      8:00 PM

The Bears finally got in the conference win column last weekend as they beat New Paltz and they almost made it 2 in a row but dropped a hard fought game to Oneonta 81-77. But that was at home and against 2 teams that most likely won't be in the playoffs. Tonight and tomorrow it's a game of a different color. First up is the Blue Knights and Geneseo will be looking to stay in the hunt for the top seed in the SUNYAC. A win today and a victory on Saturday over Plattsburgh will give them a chance to take over 2nd place. I don't think they look past Potsdam and risk the upset. For the past 5 years these teams have played each other twice a year and no one has swept the series, during that span. I believe tonight that's about to change. The point spread has the Knights favored by a large 23 point margin. I'm not sure they win by that many, though it wouldn't surprise me, but they will win by a comfortable 80-64 score.
   
   
Buffalo State  at  New Paltz State      8:00 PM

This is the weekend the Bengals have to play up to their potential and take care of business if they want to: 1. make the playoffs, and  2. host a playoff game. Last year they ended up on the outside looking in when the regular season ended, missing the playoffs by a single game. And who was it that beat them out for the final spot?...None other than tonight's host, the Hawks. Buffalo State was 7-6 going into this game at Hawk Center last year. A win would have given them a sweep of the season series and if they both ended up 9-9 the Bengals would have the tiebreaker in their hip pocket. Instead they lost that game, finished with 3 more losses in their final 4 games and ended up 8-10. The Hawks finished 9-9 ending up as the 6th and final seed. Flash forward to almost a year to the day that game was played. The Bengals are in 6th place in the YAC with a 6-6 record. The Hawks with a 3-10 log, are, short of a miracle, out of contention. Can you say spoiler? What else do the Hawks have to play for except to make every game seem like a playoff game? The Bengals better get off the bus with their "A"  game because the Hawks can take it to you if you don't. I watched them come back from big deficits just last weekend against Plattsburgh. In the past 6 years Buffalo State has only won 1 game in New Paltz and that was 2 years ago. Even in the years when the Hawks were putting together conference records of 4-12 and 2-14 they owned a win over Buffalo State in Hawk Center. The Bengals find themselves in the same situation as they did last year, only the team that's looking to push them out of playoff contention this time, is the team they will face tomorrow afternoon, the Red Dragons of Oneonta. A loss here against the Hawks will only put more pressure on the Bengals to secure a playoff spot. With the 4th, 5th and 6th seeds so closely bunched together it's still possible for any of those teams to clinch a home playoff game by finishing in 4th place. Third place would seem to be a stretch as the top 3 teams have opened up a big gap from the rest of the pack. The point spread favors the Bengals in this game by 5 points and I'm sure the 2 teams will put on their track shoes for this one. In the past 7 games they've played these teams have combined for a minimum of 162 points and as many as 208 points exactly 2 months ago. I'll take the Bengals to win by a final of 89-83.           
   
Fredonia State   at  Oneonta State      8:00 PM

Fredonia hasn't won back to back games all year, but then they've only had 4 chances to do so. Tonight they get a 5th chance as they come off their biggest win of the season, a 68-66 won over Oswego State last Saturday. Oneonta needs to win to keep pace with the other teams they are battling with to make the playoffs. The Red Dragon have seen their fortunes fade as they tumbled from 2nd place all the way down to 7th place by going 1-6 in their last 7 conference games. With 5 games left they can't afford to drop a game to the team that's near the bottom of the standings. As it is I only see Oneonta winning 2 of their remaining games, which will leave them with an 8-10 record in the YAC. Tomorrow's game against Buffalo State will be huge. But first they have to get by the Blue Devils. The point spread favors Oneonta by a 12 point margin. That's a point less than they won by 2 months ago in Fredonia. The Red Dragons will go to Zach Mager early and often and will win this one by a 75-64 score.   
   
Plattsburgh State  at  #15 Brockport State      8:00 PM

This is the Game of the Day and of the Week in the conference as the top 2 teams square off. I was hoping that both teams would be ranked in the Top 25 by the time this meeting took place but only Brockport has that distinction. The Massey Rating system does have both teams in the Top 25 however as Brockport is ranked in the #6 spot and Plattsburgh checks in at the #20 spot. Plattsburgh was at #18 three days ago but dropped to 19th on Wednesday and 20th on Thursday despite not playing. Brockport won the last encounter in Plattsburgh on January 11th in come from behind fashion, as they've done a number of times this season. The Cardinals will be looking for payback as they let that one slip away in the closing minutes. This will be the 15th meeting in the past 8 years and the Cards hold a slim 8-6 margin in the previous 14 games. Nine of those games have been decided by 7 or less points. In tonight's game the oddsmakers have made the home team Golden Eagles a 6 point favorite. Brockport features a high scoring backcourt of John Ivy, the SUNYAC's leading scorer at 22.1 ppg. The D3hoops pre-season All American has lived up to his billing and then some. Brandon Caruthers may not have All American status attached to his name but I don't think he knows that, as his level of play has also been outstanding. He is among the leaders in scoring 13.2 ppg, assists 3.9 apg, and steals 2.5 spg. Big man Patrick Coyle puts up 8.5 ppg and 7.5 rpg, while freshman Clifton Lyerly adds 7.7 ppg and 3.1 rpg. In last weeks overtime win against Geneseo, Lyerly led the team in scoring and was the main reason the Eagles overcame a first half deficit as he scored 11 straight Brockport points to end the half.

Plattsburgh counters with Shamoy McIntosh 14.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, Shavar Fields 13.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg, John Perez 11.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, Ed Correa 10.6 ppg, 48 3 pointers (40.7%) and Chris Manning who leads the YAC in assists with 91, 5.5 apg and is 2nd in steals with 55, 3.1 spg. The Cardinals have excellent offensive balance as anyone in their rotation can lead the team in scoring. They have a wealth of 3 point shooters and are shooting 40% from long distance.

There are only 31 teams in Division III that have 3 losses  or less and 3 of those teams are in the SUNYAC. Brockport, Plattsburgh and Geneseo. In addtion Brockport has the 4th longest winning streak in the country with 15 in a row. 

Once again I believe this game will come down to who makes a play or two at the very end of the game, as so many of their previous matchups have turned out. I'm going out on a limb here and taking the Cardinals to put an end to the Eagles 15 game winning streak by an 81-78 final score. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 07, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
So, Magic do you think this is make or break weekend for the Cardinals??  Going 0-2 likely leaves them short of the regular season championship I assume??  Still think they'd get a pool C slot with an 0-2 weekend if they don't win the YAC tournament and grab the auto bid??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 05:34:48 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 07, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
So, Magic do you think this is make or break weekend for the Cardinals??  Going 0-2 likely leaves them short of the regular season championship I assume??  Still think they'd get a pool C slot with an 0-2 weekend if they don't win the YAC tournament and grab the auto bid??

7,

This IS a make or break weekend. The only chance we have to win the regular season championship and host the playoffs is a 2-0 weekend. If we lose tonight we'll have 3 losses, Brockport will have none. They would own the tiebreaker over us so they would have to lose 4 games in order for us to pass them. That's not going to happen as Brockport will lose at the most 2 games in the conference.

We have to win tonight and win tomorrow. We could very well win tonight and lose tomorrow. A loss to either of these two teams will take us out of the running for the top spot and the right to host. If we do go 2-0, we still need Geneseo to beat Brockport next Tuesday when Brockport travels to take on the Knights. Then Brockport and Plattsburgh would both have 2 losses, Geneseo would have 3 losses and we would own the tiebreaker over Brockport by virtue of a sweep of Geneseo, versus a Brockport split with Geneseo. And of course we'd have to win all of our remaining five games.

That's a tall order for my Cardinals to fill. Realistically you hope you can go 1-1 on this long road trip and if you do, you consider it a success. That won't get me what I need though, so I'm hoping my dream can come true and the guys pull off the improbable. (I did wish upon a star ;D)

Brockport could almost clinch this weekend (as far as I'm concerned) if they beat Plattsburgh tonight and Plattsburgh should beat Geneseo tomorrow. That would give them a 3 game lead and there's no way they will be caught.

I do think the Cardinals will  get a Pool C bid if they don't win the automatic bid by winning the YAC tournament, unless they lose some games they shouldn't. Still a lot of basketball to be played and Buffalo State, Oswego and Cortland are all capable teams that can beat you on any night. Heck so can't Fredonia or Potsdam for that matter. No easy outs in the YAC this year.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
Heck of a game going on between Brockport and Plattsburgh. Plattsburgh has the lead at the break 43-36

Brockport's John Ivy scored the first basket of the game but the Cardinals Shavar Fields got a layup and then hit a pair of free throws to give visitors the lead. Fields got another layup but then the Golden Eagles scored 8 straight points to go in front 10-6. Plattsburgh would spend the next 12 minutes trying to play catch up while the lead fluctuated between 2 and 6 points. The Cardinals finally caught the Eagles with 3:17 to go on another layup by Shavar Fields. Seconds later Fields stole the ball and scored again to give Plattsburgh the lead for the first time since the early going with 2:57 left. Brandon Caruthers drained a 3 pointer for Brockport but Fields struck again as the Cards went back in front on a 3 point play by the Cards big man. John Ivy got a hoop and harm of his own and put the Eagles back in front at 36-35 but John Perez got back to back layups to put the Cards in front to stay.  Ed Correa hit a pair of free throws and Perez got loose inside at the buzzer for another bucket to give the Cards the 43-36 lead at the break.

John Ivy led the Golden Eagles with 13 points and Brandon Caruthers had 7.

Shavar Fields had 15 points to lead the Cards  and John Perez had 10.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 09:06:05 PM
Buffalo State leads New Paltz at the break 44-41

Oneonta leads Fredonia 38-32 at the half

Geneseo leads Potsdam 36-23 at the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 07, 2014, 09:09:42 PM
it's like I'm watching DaQuan Brooks from Western Connecticut out there.  Does Ivy realize he has 4 other teammates on the court with him??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
Yes he does and many times he finds them. Sometimes he sets up in the high post with his back to the basket and dishes off when he gets the ball or will turn and go to the hoop. He's very versatile. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 09:29:34 PM
Updates:

Plattsburgh 66 Brockport 62   9:50 to go

Buffalo State 77 New Paltz 57 7:06 to go

Geneseo 74 Potsdam 60 47 seconds to go

Oneontya 59 Fredonia 57 6:20 to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 09:35:06 PM
Final from Geneseo

Geneseo 78 Potsdam 61
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 07, 2014, 10:00:13 PM
Free throw shooting has killed Brockport here.  I want to see the final numbers, I'd be surprised if they finished above 70%.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 07, 2014, 10:03:38 PM
Does John Ivy have 43 points in him??  Better question is, does Plattsburgh even let him attempt a 3??

Plattsburgh up 3 90-87 after 2 free throws.  Brockport ball with less than 6 seconds left, Ivy with 40 points.

2 free throws from Brockport leave them down 1 with 5.2 seconds left.

2 free throws from the Cardinals put Plattsburgh back up 3, and Ivy's contested 3 point attempt falls well short.  Plattsburgh wins 92-89.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 10:06:43 PM
Plattsburgh leads Brockport 90-87 with 6 seconds to go. Brockport has the ball underneath Plattsburgh's basket. Here we go. Plattsburgh commits a foul on the inbounds pass. Brandon Caruthers goes to the line for Brockport and makes both free throws. Now 90-89 and Plattsburgh calls a time out.

I knew this was going to be a good game but this is beyond good. This is the game of the year in the SUNYAC

Shamoy McIntosh is fouled and makes both free throws. Ivy misses a three at the buzzer and Plattsburgh comes away with the 92-89 win.

I'm exhausted!!! :o 8-) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 07, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
87 free throws attempted between the 2 teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 07, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
Magicman.....Congrats to the Cardinals...to their coach....and to you, their best FAN/Supporter/Poster :)You ALL deserved it!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2014, 10:38:04 PM
Quote from: amh63 on February 07, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
Magicman.....Congrats to the Cardinals...to their coach....and to you, their best FAN/Supporter/Poster :)You ALL deserved it!

Thank you amh6, kind words from you as always. That was one fantastical game to watch. I must admit that I was amped up quite a bit when my Cardinals kept trying to find ways to give this one away on several occasions in the final minutes of play. I will be having words with the players when they return to Plattsburgh for giving me quite a scare for far too many instances when I thought the game was in hand.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 07, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 07, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
87 free throws attempted between the 2 teams.

Alfred and Stevens combined for 85 free throws. But that's a typical game for the Saxons who lead the nation in personal fouls. Stevens was 28 of 43 from the free throw line, while the Saxons were 25 of 42.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 08, 2014, 12:43:47 AM
Congrats magic 1 on a great victory on the road! Must have been a nail biter to watch, online nonetheless !  Sorry I didn't call u back but I was bumming a ride from some friends back to Albany and I dozed off!

Hopefully your Cards will the same to Geneseo tommorrow.  Oddly enough your game was covered on the d3 hoops "recap".   However they claim that the Cards and Golden Eagles only play once a year??  Not sure where they got that stay from?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 12:58:54 AM
Plattsburgh 92 Brockport 89 

I had this one 81-78 in favor of my Cardinals. I did have the margin of victory right on the number but each team scored 11 points more than I predicted. I had no way of knowing there were 3 zebras that were going to call everything in sight. 65 combined points from the free throw line is a bit much. In my younger days I was a referee, and I came from the "let em play" school of officiating. This crew hadn't heard of that theory.   

I said it was going to be a great game, it was my Game of the Day and Game of the Week...turned out it was probably the Game of the Year in the YAC. It was back and forth the entire contest as no one had a double digit lead at any point in the game. There were 5 ties and 7 lead changes but basically Brockport led for most of the first half with Plattsburgh playing catch up and the Cardinal leading for most of the 2nd half with the Eagles playing catch up. Two excellent teams going at each other tooth and nail. It's too bad someone had to lose. I found myself feeling bad that Brockport's 15 game winning streak was ending. I wanted it to go on until they had the longest one left alive in D3. I thought about the winning streak we might be on if the Cardinals hadn't blown a 7 point lead against the Eagles in Plattsburgh. That one would be at 14 games right now.

I did tell Coach Dunne right after that January 11th loss that his Golden Eagles would not lose another game until the Cardinals came to town on February 7th. I was talking the talk and tonight my Cardinals backed me up but it was anything but easy. And winning this game tonight won't mean anything if we lose to Geneseo tomorrow. The odds of taking down two top teams on back to back days on their courts is not an easy thing to accomplish and the odds are certainly against that happening. Hopefully the Cardinals can pull it off.

Tonights warriors left it all on the court. Plattsburgh placed 5 players in double figures led by Shavar Fields who just missed a double double with 23 points and 9 rebounds. Shavar was 7x14 from the field and 9x11 from the line.

John Perez had another big night as he scored 21 points and was the games leading rebounder with 15. He added 3 assists and shot 6x12 from the field and 9x12 from the line. Eight of John's 15 rebounds came on the offensive end.

Ezra Hodgson came off the bench and scored 15 points and had 6 rebounds and 2 assists. Ezra was the only Cardinal , in fact the only player in the game that had much luck tonight shooting from long range as he was 2 of 4 from behind the arc. The 2 teams combined to fire up 37 three point attempts and made only 6 between them Plattsburgh was 3x19 while Port was 3x18. Together they normally average about 17 made 3 pointers. Together they shot 17 % tonight. Ezra was 5x7 from the field and 5x5 from the line, including 2 when there was just 6 seconds left to play and the Cardinals clinging to a 1 point lead.

The X Man Xavier Thomas came off the bench and provided a big lift in the first half with 4 key baskets in only 8 minutes. He finished with 12 points on 6x12 from the field, with 3 rebounds and 1 assist in just 13 minutes of floor time.

Shamoy McIntosh is proof that you can't keep a good man down. Held scoreless in the first half, The Computer broke loose for 11 second half points and ended up with 7 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist. McIntosh and point guard Chris Manning were both victims of early foul trouble and had to go to the bench, limiting their minutes. Manning ended up with 6 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and a block. 

Cards shot 40 % from the field (28x70), 15.8% from distance (3x19) and 71.7% from the line (33x46).  They had 55 rebounds to 47 for the Eagles and had 17 turnovers to 15 for Brockport.

Plattsburgh improves to 16-2 overall and 10-2 in the YAC. They remain in sole possession of 2nd place and tomorrow will face the 3rd place Geneseo Knights at 4:00 PM. That game could further clarify a muddled SUNYAC landscape.

Brockport was led by their All American, John Poison Ivy who did all he could to bring his team a victory tonight. Tiime and time again he drove the lane and either scored or got fouled or got both. He managed to reset his career high which he set back on January 21st against Buffalo State. He poured in 35 points that night and tonight took it up to 40 points. John was 11x26 from the field 1x4 3's and 17x18 from the line. He added 9 rebounds, 2 assists, a steal, and a block.

Brandon Caruthers had 11 points (2x11 fg, 1x4 3's, 6x8 ft) He had 6 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals.

Clifton Lyerly came off the bench with 11 points (4x9 fg, 0 x1 3's, 3x5 ft) 2 rebounds and 2 assists. This young man is only a freshman and should be quite a player over the next few years.

Patrick Coyle had 9 points (3x5 fg, 3x5 ft) and 7 rebounds and last but certainly not least, Olusola Adeniran had 7 points, tied the Cards' Perez for rebounding honors with 15, had 3 steals, 3 blocks and 1 assist.

The Golden Eagles shot 36.5% from the field (27x74), 16.7% from long range (3x18) and 78% from the line (32x41).

There were 62 fouls called in this game and 87 free throws taken. :o Way too many whistles in my opinion as I stated at the outset. Both sides had their share of strange calls. The game was a great game because the players were playing their hearts out. Would have been even better if the refs went with the flow instead of interrupting the flow. All the other 8 o'clock game were over well before this one was. That oughta tell you something. ???

Brockport loses for only the 2nd time all year and now has a 16-2 overall record. They keep their 1st place position in the conference with a 10-1 record. They will host Potsdam tomorrow afternoon at 4:00 PM as they look to start a new streak.

Congratulations to both teams for leaving it all on the floor. The fans in Tuttle North got way more than their money's worth tonight.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 03:54:05 PM
All ten teams in action today in the SUNYAC.

Plattsburgh State  at  Geneseo State    4:00 PM    The Game of the day

The Cardinals won the big contest last night but today's game against the Knights is just as big to determine the pecking order of the YAC. Anyone of the top 3 teams can still win the regular season so this head to head matchup is doubly important. Cards won the earlier meeting in Plattsburgh, a sweep would give them a big leg up on Geneseo and the tiebreaker against Brockport should that come into play. Winning back to back games on this long road trip, against the other 2 top teams in the conference, is a tall order. Hard to fault the Cardinals is they falter here. Geneseo knows it's do or die time if they are to have any chance of claiming the top spot. The oddsmakers have changed the spread and now favor Plattsburgh by a slim 2 point margin. One thing is for certain it should be another barnburner. I'll take the Cardinals to win 85-81.

 

Fredonia State  at  New Paltz State    4:00 PM

This is a game between 2 teams playing out the string for pride. Coaches looking to see who and what will work in the future. Both team have some nice parts, but both need to go on a shopping spree as well. Point spread favors the home team by 6 points in this game, but it won't surprise me if the Blue Devils pull one out here. Hawks have lost 7 straight and this could be their last shot at a win. It's Senior night so I'll go with New Paltz to win by a 75-70  score.
   
Potsdam State  at  Brockport State   4:00 PM

The Bears are in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's tough enough to play the #15th ranked team in the country in their house...to do so after that team has just suffered their first loss in 3 months will be brutal. Brockport is a huge favorite in this one as the point spread is 30 points. I think the Bears keep it closer than that but not much closer. Brockport 90 Potsdam 63. 


Buffalo State  at  Oneonta State   4:00 PM

This is a huge for these two teams as the winner will have the inside track for the 6th and final playoff spot. Buffalo State is still playing for a home playoff game but a loss here could put them in jeopardy of making the post season. Both teams won yesterday  and the Bengals have a game in hand in the loss column. A win here would give the Bengals a season sweep and all but guarantee them a playoff spot.  For that reason this is a must game for the Red Dragons. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a slim 2 point favorite. I like the Buffalo State myself and think they'll win this one by a 84-78 final score


Cortland State  at  Oswego State   8:00 PM

Another big matchup between 2 of the teams tied for 4th place in the conference. This is the first meeting between the schools this year and the winner gets a leg up on hosting a home playoff game. The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 2 point favorite here and I'm also picking the home team. Tough to win in Laker Hall. Oswego wins this one 72-69




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 04:45:41 PM
Defensive struggle in Geneseo as the Knights lead the cardinals 25-24 at the half.

Gordon Lyons with 9 points and 7 rebounds for the Knights. Connor Fedge with 7 points, while Matt Curry has 5 points and 5 rebounds.

Plattsburgh led by two players that came off the bench as Mike Mitchell has 8 points and Xavier Thomas has 5 points with 4 rebounds. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 05:10:34 PM
Brockport over Potsdam 46-27 at the half

Oneonta over Buffalo State 33-29 at the half

Fredonia and New Paltz  all tied up at 52 each with 14:35 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 05:25:11 PM
Crunch time in Geneseo. Knights up 51-47 with 3:42 to play in the game. Cardinals with the ball coming out of a time out.

Teams exchange missed 3 pointers and Cardinals get a fast break dunk by Shavar Fields to cut it to 51-49. Time out with 2:37 left

Knights get a 3 pointer from Thomas Decker and the Cards turn it over. Knights get another 3 pointer from Andy Drescher to make it 57-49, with 1:52 left. That may have been the dagger in the Cards' heart.

Cards miss on another 3 point try and foul, the Knights make 1 of 2. And the Cardinals finally get a basket to make it 58-51 with 30 seconds left. This one is over.

Cards foul again and Knights make 1 of 2...Plattsburgh misses another 3 point attempt...fouls again and Knights make 1of 2 again to make it 60-51. Plattsburgh misses another from long range and this one is history. Geneseo wins and moves into 2nd place .

Another big showdown for first place is coming up on Tuesday as Brockport will be in Geneseo for the rematch of these 2 teams. The winner will have sole  possession of first place and will control their own destiny. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
More updates:

Oneonta stretching their lead over Buffalo State and now leads the Bengals 72-61.

Brockport defeats Potsdam by a score of 88-60

Fredonia leading New Paltz 86-76 with under a minute left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 05:54:37 PM
Final score.

Fredonia 93 New Paltz 83
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 08, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
As I've Said, Double Round Robin destroys SUNYAC national rankings and Overall W-L  we eat our young.

Wouldn't be surprised to see 'port drop out of top 25, and Knights [Have a son '00 Geneseo Grad] not get rewarded for their double win weekend.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
Buffalo State with a furious rally at Oneonta but falls just short and drops this one to the Red Dragons 83-82.

If  Bengalsrule was in town we could go drown our sorrows together. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 08, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
Well look on the bright side Magic, at least they got 1.  Most teams that do that trip get 0.  Always good to get both, but at least it wasn't a totally lost weekend for the Cardinals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2014, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 08, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
Well look on the bright side Magic, at least they got 1.  Most teams that do that trip get 0.  Always good to get both, but at least it wasn't a totally lost weekend for the Cardinals.

Told Coach Curle when they left on Thursday, that if they went 1-1 it would be a good trip. Didn't want that, because I don't think we can host the playoffs with a 1-1 weekend. It is what it is. Just 2 less games I'll get to see live I suppose. Unless we get lots of help from other teams in the league over the next two weeks. I'm not counting on that to happen though.

Now comes the conundrum, hope for the 2 seed, get the bye and know you're in the semifinals or get the 3 seed, host a home playoff game, but risk a loss and you don't see the semifinals. I'm thinking the 3 seed is what I'll wish for. I like that extra game as a fan, plus it'll keep the team sharp and if you win that 1st round game, plus the semifinal game, but lose in the championship, you'll be 2-1 instead of 1-1 and that will help you in the Pool C battle.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 08, 2014, 09:56:18 PM
Now comes the conundrum, hope for the 2 seed, get the bye and know you're in the semifinals or get the 3 seed, host a home playoff game, but risk a loss and you don't see the semifinals. I'm thinking the 3 seed is what I'll wish for. I like that extra game as a fan, plus it'll keep the team sharp and if you win that 1st round game, plus the semifinal game, but lose in the championship, you'll be 2-1 instead of 1-1 and that will help you in the Pool C battle.

What did I tell you a couple weeks ago??  I'd rather have the 3 seed, and it's probably more beneficial to have the 3 seed than the 2, because as you said you get a game at home, and stay fresh playing a game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2014, 12:17:20 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 08, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
As I've Said, Double Round Robin destroys SUNYAC national rankings and Overall W-L  we eat our young.

Wouldn't be surprised to see 'port drop out of top 25, and Knights [Have a son '00 Geneseo Grad] not get rewarded for their double win weekend.

Never seen anyone drop from 15 to out of the poll based on one loss to a good team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 09, 2014, 07:09:45 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 09, 2014, 12:17:20 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 08, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
As I've Said, Double Round Robin destroys SUNYAC national rankings and Overall W-L  we eat our young.

Wouldn't be surprised to see 'port drop out of top 25, and Knights [Have a son '00 Geneseo Grad] not get rewarded for their double win weekend.

Never seen anyone drop from 15 to out of the poll based on one loss to a good team.

Nearly half of the Top 25 teams have three or more losses. Pep doesn't watch too many other teams' games but seeing the score of the Mary Washington game with Salisbury late in the second half yesterday, tuned in to see a .500 Seagull squad beat the #12 Eagles by 10 on the Eagles' court. Game was of particular interest because Pep's son, who is a junior varsity basketball coach at a D.C. private school, met Salisbury Coach Josh Merkel at a coaching clinic and, as it turns out, Merkel is a friend of AU Coach Dale Wellman. (Small world!)

Pep was pleased to see a pep band at Mary Washington. The webcast zoomed in on the band during a timeout wherein Pep learned that they either have some "older" students at MW or they've got music faculty and/or local long-time fans who play instruments who comprise much of the band! Pep's gotta make some phone calls....  ;)

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 09, 2014, 12:54:36 PM
Magic--Congrats on big win at the Port. I did watch the game on stream and the Burg has that no quit attitude. That playoff game where ever it is played will be a great game. The college game with the emphasis on post play has transformed the game to total penetration and get a call. That was evident in this game. The Port could not stop the Burg from penetrating and vice-versa. I know it took alot out of your boys and helped Geneseo. I watched Pburg-Geneseo game on Saturday as Bport crunched the Bears. Your boys didn't seem to have the same intensity level and couldn't knock down shots. Hopefully that third game will happen!!!Go Eagles
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 09, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
With Regional Rankings on its way this week heres how I think the East Regional Rankings will look like
1. Brockport
2. Plattsburgh
3. Geneseo
4. NYU
5. Hobart
6. Stevens
I think Nazareth is 7th and Vassar 8th. Main reason I think Stevens is ahead of Naz is because they beat them twice.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2014, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 09, 2014, 12:54:36 PM
Magic--Congrats on big win at the Port. I did watch the game on stream and the Burg has that no quit attitude. That playoff game where ever it is played will be a great game. The college game with the emphasis on post play has transformed the game to total penetration and get a call. That was evident in this game. The Port could not stop the Burg from penetrating and vice-versa. I know it took alot out of your boys and helped Geneseo. I watched Pburg-Geneseo game on Saturday as Bport crunched the Bears. Your boys didn't seem to have the same intensity level and couldn't knock down shots. Hopefully that third game will happen!!!Go Eagles

I was glad we got to play Brockport first on the weekend because that was the game we definitely had to win if we entertained any hope of hosting the YAC Tournament. Problem was...it was a double edged sword. I knew Geneseo wouldn't expend anywhere near the energy levels taking on the Bears as the Cardinals would in the game against the Eagles. That's why a 2-0 weekend was going to be extremely difficult to pull off. It's tough enough to win those two games when the teams are of average quality, but to hope for back to backers, when the Knights and Eagles are both Top 25 worthy, is a whole other animal.

And you're right...the Cardinals didn't have the same intensity, They were outrebounded, outhustled, and outshot. Yet they were still only 2 points down with under 3 minutes to go. The 2 three pointers that the Knights got in the next minute turned the game around though, and the Cardinals couldn't recover from that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2014, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 08, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
Buffalo State with a furious rally at Oneonta but falls just short and drops this one to the Red Dragons 83-82.

If  Bengalsrule was in town we could go drown our sorrows together. :(

Where do u wanna meet? Still sick over our loss to Oneonta. Give the Red Dragons credit though. They wanted it just a little more than we did!  Now we have the Brockport/Geneseo weekend coming up.  If ever there was a weekend where we could use 2 wins, then this is the weekend

Magic...any pointers on how to beat the Golden Eagles?  If so let me know so I can pass it on!!


Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2014, 12:56:39 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2014, 09:33:09 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 08, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
Buffalo State with a furious rally at Oneonta but falls just short and drops this one to the Red Dragons 83-82.

If  Bengalsrule was in town we could go drown our sorrows together. :(
Magic...any pointers on how to beat the Golden Eagles?  If so let me know so I can pass it on!!

This coming Friday evening about 2 hours before gametime....kidnap John Ivy.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2014, 05:40:19 AM
Saturday's game

Geneseo 60 Plattsburgh 51

Trying to complete a 2-0 trip, against 2 of the top teams in the conference, on the road, was a lot to ask of my Cardinals. And it didn't happen but it wasn't for a lack of effort. Plattsburgh is the only one of the top 3 teams that is asked to go on the road and play the other top teams in back to back games. That definitely puts us at a disadvantage. Brockport doesn't have to play consecutive road games against Plattsburgh and Geneseo. The Knights aren't scheduled to play Brockport and Plattsburgh in back to back games on the road. The schedule makers can't consider these inequities when they draw up the conference slate. This year because of the teams that are at the top of the standings, the Cardinals got the short end of the stick. That's just the way things are, this year.

The game was a tightly contested affair as you would expect from 2 teams that have been as successful as the Cards and the Knights have been. The first half was a back and forth battle that had the Knights enter the locker room with a slim 25-24 lead.

Plattsburgh opened the 2nd half with an 11-4 spurt that had then in front 35-29 with 16:39 left in the game. Geneseo would come back with a 16-0 run of their own that carried them from the 6 point deficit to a 10 point, 45-35 lead. It would be the largest lead of the game and it came with 10:48 left to play. The Cardinals would respond and fought back with another 10-2 burst that brought them within 2 points at 47-45 but they would never get all the way back. Twice more they got within 2 points, the last time after a Shavar Fields dunk with 2:51 left in the game made it 51-49, but the Knights Thomas Decker answered Fields' dunk with a 3 pointer and after a Cardinal turnover Andy Drescher buried another 3 pointer 30 seconds later. Suddenly it was 57-49 and time was a huge factor as less than 2 minutes remained. The Cardinals resorted to 3 point attempts of their own but came up empty on three straight shots. Alan Siergiej  got an offensive rebound and a putback to break the Cards scoring drought but by that time only 30 seconds were left and the score was 58-51. The Cards had to foul and then hoist a couple more 3 point attempts. Geneseo went 2x4 from the line and the Cards went 0x2 from the field to make the final 60-51.

Gordon Lyons once again led Geneseo with a double double of 17 points and 13 rebounds. He added 4 steals a block and 1 assist. Connor Fedge added 12 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Andy Drescher had 12 points off the bench as he scored all of them from long range making 4 of 6 attempts. Matt Curry and Thomas Decker both had 7 points. Curry also had 9 rebounds while Decker added 5 assists. The Knights were 22x49 from the field (44.9%), 8x23 (34.8%) from downtown and 8x13 (61.5%) from the line. They won the battle of the boards 36-28 and had 18 turnovers to 16 for the Cardinals.

The last time Plattsburgh scored so few points was almost 3 years ago on February 15th, 2011 when we defeated Potsdam State 51-48. The last time we scored 51 points or less and lost was over 5 years ago on January 4th, 2009 when Shenandoah beat Plattsburgh 63-39 in a holiday tournament.

Plattsburgh was led by back up point guard Mike Mitchell who scored 11 points. Starting point guard Chris Manning had 8 points, 6 steals, 3 rebounds and 2 assists. John Perez had 7 points, a team high 8 rebounds, 4 steals, 2 assists and a block.

Plattsburgh shot like they were a tired team hitting only 16x50 from the field (32%), an even worse 7x31 from beyond the arc (22.6%) and a surprising 12x14 from the line (85.7%) Where were all the foul calls tonight? ??? We could have used about another 25 or so more free throws. ;D Seriously though it's amazing the difference in fouls called between the 2 games of Friday and Saturday. 62 fouls and 87 free throws on Friday night....25 fouls and 27 free throws in Saturday's game. Granted the 2 teams (Brockport and Geneseo) have a different style of  basketball and Brockport's game will certainly dictate more fouls will take place but that's a huge discrepancy from one game to another.

Geneseo moves into 2nd place in the conference with a 10-2 record (16-3 overall) and will return to action on Tuesday night when they host Brockport in a battle for 1st place.

Plattsburgh drops to 10-3 in the conference and 16-4 overall. They are off until the weekend when they host Cortland and then Oswego at Memorial Hall.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2014, 06:14:07 AM
The game on Tuesday between Brockport and Geneseo could leave both teams with an 11-2 record if Geneseo wins. They will have split the season series so the next tiebreaker is how they fared against the next best team in the conference. That would be Plattsburgh and they both will have a 1-1 record against the Cardinals. If they both win the remainder of their games and end up with 16-2 records, what would be the next tiebreaker? Head to head point differential? Flip a coin?

I went to the SUNYAC website to try and find out but every thing I clicked on, that might contain the information I was looking for, said I was trying to access "protected content" and required a password. I tried to bring up the championship manuals and the handbook, apparently the SUNYAC is afraid to let the magicman see what's in these files. What's up with that. ??? Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. I remember a few years ago I could get that info from the YAC website and it would spell out all the steps of the conference tiebreakers. Don't know when it became "top secret" stuff. :o

Where's Fran Elia when I need him?? Can you hear me Fran? You must know what the tiebreakers are. You probably also know why these links are "protected content". I'm betting you also have a password to access them. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 10, 2014, 07:46:00 AM
Geneseo-Bport game will be a another classic. The Eagles will try to uptempo them as much as possible, but Geneseo is very good at getting back in transition and keeping composure. The Eagles must have Ivy continue his aggressive style, but need to get more consistent scoring out of Carruthers, Lee, and the freshman, Liverly. If they play that solid D and keep the penetration out of the middle of the court; it should be a nice win for the Bport crew. A win here will put them in sweet position to host!!! Go EAGLES!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 10:30:40 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2014, 06:14:07 AM
The game on Tuesday between Brockport and Geneseo could leave both teams with an 11-2 record if Geneseo wins. They will have split the season series so the next tiebreaker is how they fared against the next best team in the conference. That would be Plattsburgh and they both will have a 1-1 record against the Cardinals. If they both win the remainder of their games and end up with 16-2 records, what would be the next tiebreaker? Head to head point differential? Flip a coin?

I went to the SUNYAC website to try and find out but every thing I clicked on, that might contain the information I was looking for, said I was trying to access "protected content" and required a password. I tried to bring up the championship manuals and the handbook, apparently the SUNYAC is afraid to let the magicman see what's in these files. What's up with that. ??? Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. I remember a few years ago I could get that info from the YAC website and it would spell out all the steps of the conference tiebreakers. Don't know when it became "top secret" stuff. :o

Where's Fran Elia when I need him?? Can you hear me Fran? You must know what the tiebreakers are. You probably also know why these links are "protected content". I'm betting you also have a password to access them. ;D

"Protected " indeed!  Around 2am last night I discovered the same thing.  I know that the manual was not a " protected " item in the past.  You could always find out what the playoffs rules were for every sport. Now I need a password?  That must be a mistake that hopefully will be fixed soon.

If memory serves me correctly the tie breaker continues down the standings until 1  team shows a better record against a higher seed than the other. In the Geneseo Brockport case after you look at thier results against Plattsburgh then you would look to see how they did against the 4th ranked team if the same ( ie both teams split the season series) then you go to the 5th ranked team and so on!

With the next 4 teams all seperated by 1 game. (8-6,8-7 and7-7 records) everyone should have access to that information ASAP ! Inquiring minds want to know!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2014, 01:56:13 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 10, 2014, 07:46:00 AM
Geneseo-Bport game will be a another classic. The Eagles will try to uptempo them as much as possible, but Geneseo is very good at getting back in transition and keeping composure. The Eagles must have Ivy continue his aggressive style, but need to get more consistent scoring out of Carruthers, Lee, and the freshman, Liverly. If they play that solid D and keep the penetration out of the middle of the court; it should be a nice win for the Bport crew. A win here will put them in sweet position to host!!! Go EAGLES!!!

When Coach Dunne sees that you called Clifton Lyerly, his star freshman....Liverly, he will probably no longer admit that he knows you. ;D I'm surprised you didn't think his complete name was Chicken Liverly...I mean if you can get Lyerly to Liverly it's not that big a  reach to get Clifton to Chicken. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2014, 02:03:13 PM
Bengalsrule,

I know that the tiebreaker goes down the standings from best record on down but in the case I was putting forth... the two teams were tied all the way down because the only other losses they had were a season split against Plattsburgh. They both are 1-1 against the Cardinals. If they both end up 16-2 then what are the other tiebreakers? The YAC doesn't want us to know apparently.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 10, 2014, 02:24:47 PM
LOL- Thanks Magic--should have previewed my post--Anyway, the Eagles need him to be a more consistent scorer against the Knights. I think the pressure D with "Poison Ivy and all the vines" will be too much for the Knights to cut through tomorrow. Port by 4--You like that one!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 10, 2014, 03:20:15 PM
Luckily for the SUNYAC, the LL and E8 don't have any teams who can contend to be in the top 3 of the East Region. Dreams of a 3 bid league are still alive.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2014, 03:25:00 PM
from the SUNYAC manual:

2.4.14.2.2.4 - If a multiple team tie can't be determined after head to head and
record against opponents in descending order.

Overall Conference road record will be used as the next tie breaker.

Geneseo has two road losses '@Plattsburgh, @ Brockport.  Brockport has none, their only loss is at home to 'burgh; so even if Geneseo wins @ Brockport, Brockport is the top seed.

If that still does not break the tie, a coin flip will
take place. If the contains 3 or more teams, each team will flip a coin. The team
that has a different side than the other teams will be slotted in the lowest seed.
This will continue until there are 2 teams left, then a normal coin flip will occur.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2014, 05:54:15 PM
Thanks Bear, I had a feeling you might know what the tiebreaker rules are. Now how does one go about finding a link to the SUNYAC manual you're quoting the rules from? I clicked on "About SUNYAC" on the YAC website. That produces a drop down menu and one of the choices is Championship Manuals. Clicking on that link gives you nothing except "You are trying to access protected content. Please log in below", at which point a password is required.    WHY?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2014, 05:54:15 PM
Thanks Bear, I had a feeling you might know what the tiebreaker rules are. Now how does one go about finding a link to the SUNYAC manual you're quoting the rules from? I clicked on "About SUNYAC" on the YAC website. That produces a drop down menu and one of the choices is Championship Manuals. Clicking on that link gives you nothing except "You are trying to access protected content. Please log in below", at which point a password is required.    WHY?

+1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 10, 2014, 08:28:29 PM
Im gonna go on a little rant right here. I think the SUNYAC is the best conference THIS year. But the Empire 8 has a case to say they are close to the SUNYAC this year. I mean Top to Bottom. Its not any easier to win games in the SUNYAC than the E8. Utica (last place team in E8) beat Cortland who is a top 6 team in the SUNYAC. People say Geneseo, Plattsburgh, Brockport are so good cause of theyre record. Which I agree they are very good teams. But Naz, Alfred, Stevens, Fisher, Hartwick are all good teams. Fisher beat Geneseo by 8! Because the Empire 8 has more losses couldn't it mean the E8 is a tougher conference top to bottom? Not saying It is but its up for Argument. SUNYAC has 3 really good teams. Then there is a drop off. Oswego is good. Cortland wasn't very impressive I don't think this year. Oneonta I don't think is great either. On the SUNYAC side, Oneonta did beat Fisher, Buff State beat Fisher. RANT ENDED. Oswego beat Hartwick by 2. SUNYAC 7-5 against Empire 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 10, 2014, 08:28:29 PM
Im gonna go on a little rant right here. I think the SUNYAC is the best conference THIS year. But the Empire 8 has a case to say they are close to the SUNYAC this year. I mean Top to Bottom. Its not any easier to win games in the SUNYAC than the E8. Utica (last place team in E8) beat Cortland who is a top 6 team in the SUNYAC. People say Geneseo, Plattsburgh, Brockport are so good cause of theyre record. Which I agree they are very good teams. But Naz, Alfred, Stevens, Fisher, Hartwick are all good teams. Fisher beat Geneseo by 8! Because the Empire 8 has more losses couldn't it mean the E8 is a tougher conference top to bottom? Not saying It is but its up for Argument. SUNYAC has 3 really good teams. Then there is a drop off. Oswego is good. Cortland wasn't very impressive I don't think this year. Oneonta I don't think is great either. On the SUNYAC side, Oneonta did beat Fisher, Buff State beat Fisher. RANT ENDED. Oswego beat Hartwick by 2. SUNYAC 7-5 against Empire 8.

Arguing both sides in the same paragraph?!?!?!  Reminds me of an old sociology professor who used to say " some say yes, some say no. I tend to agree"  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
New rankings and just as the Magic 1 predicted, Brockport stayed in the top 20 (19th). Geneseo is ranked at 31 (21 votes) and Plattsburgh at 36 ( 8 votes). 3 Sunyac teams in the top 40 of d3hoops !!!! Not bad. A 3 bid conference if ever there was 1! Especially if a dark horse wins it all!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2014, 03:27:43 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
New rankings and just as the Magic 1 predicted, Brockport stayed in the top 20 (19th). Geneseo is ranked at 31 (21 votes) and Plattsburgh at 36 ( 8 votes). 3 Sunyac teams in the top 40 of d3hoops !!!! Not bad. A 3 bid conference if ever there was 1! Especially if a dark horse wins it all!! ;)

In order for that dark horse to win it all...they first have to make sure they are IN the playoffs. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 11, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 11, 2014, 03:27:43 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
New rankings and just as the Magic 1 predicted, Brockport stayed in the top 20 (19th). Geneseo is ranked at 31 (21 votes) and Plattsburgh at 36 ( 8 votes). 3 Sunyac teams in the top 40 of d3hoops !!!! Not bad. A 3 bid conference if ever there was 1! Especially if a dark horse wins it all!! ;)

In order for that dark horse to win it all...they first have to make sure they are IN the playoffs. ???

Sometimes these boards just make you wanna choke somebody >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 11, 2014, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 11, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 11, 2014, 03:27:43 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
New rankings and just as the Magic 1 predicted, Brockport stayed in the top 20 (19th). Geneseo is ranked at 31 (21 votes) and Plattsburgh at 36 ( 8 votes). 3 Sunyac teams in the top 40 of d3hoops !!!! Not bad. A 3 bid conference if ever there was 1! Especially if a dark horse wins it all!! ;)

In order for that dark horse to win it all...they first have to make sure they are IN the playoffs. ???

Sometimes these boards just make you wanna choke somebody >:(

+K  Glad you can be honest about your feelings, bengals....  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 11, 2014, 01:32:30 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
New rankings and just as the Magic 1 predicted, Brockport stayed in the top 20 (19th). Geneseo is ranked at 31 (21 votes) and Plattsburgh at 36 ( 8 votes). 3 Sunyac teams in the top 40 of d3hoops !!!! Not bad. A 3 bid conference if ever there was 1! Especially if a dark horse wins it all!! ;)

No love for the E8. Too much parity. And anyone who's followed the Empire 8 over the years and, seeing Alfred knocking off Stevens and Hartwick back-to-back, must assume the Empire 8 is down this year.  That very well could be true. Or, it could mean that Alfred is up this year!  ;)

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 11, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
Final week 1 Regional Ranking prediction is
1. Brockport
2. Geneseo
3. Plattsburgh
4. NYU
5. Hobart
6. Stevens
Nazareth and Vassar are in the mix
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2014, 04:58:57 PM
Fredonia State's Tyrone Clark was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 2-9. Here's the writeup from the YAC website:

Clark played every minute of both SUNYAC road games totaling 63 points and 18 rebounds. He averaged 31.5 points this week and shot 55% from the field. Clark has scored 30 or more points five times this season averaging 21.7 points and 6.0 rebounds per game, and shooting 53.7 percent from the floor.

Congratulations to Tyrone for an excellent week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2014, 06:39:57 PM
The Game of the Week is on tap for tonight.

Brockport State at Geneseo State  8:00 PM

Another big game as the top two teams in the YAC match up tonight in Geneseo. Brockport won an earlier meeting that wasn't resolved at the end of regulation, as the Golden Eagles had to squeak one out in overtime, 73-68. First place is not on the line in this game since Brockport, even with a loss will still hold the tiebreaker over the Knights.

The tiebreaker, between these two teams as it presently stands, if Geneseo wins tonight, would be determined by which team has the better overall road record  (thanks to "thebear" for supplying us with that very secure information). Since Geneseo has already lost two road games and Brockport would only have tonight's road loss on their record, they would maintain their 1st place status should Geneseo come away with the win.

The Golden Eagles have made this series rather one sided over the past 4+ years, winning 8 of the past 9 matchups. Tonight is probably the best opportunity for the Knights to get the W, since January 17th 2012, their only win over Brockport in recent history. The Golden Eagles have reeled off 4 straight victories since then and had 4 straight wins previous to that game.

This game will feature the, in your face defense of the Golden Eagles, who will press Geneseo the entire game when the Knights have the ball. And when the Eagles have the ball it will be a steady dose of John Ivy attacking the basket and looking to get to the line. Ivy and his backcourt mates will also look to fire up a volley of 3 pointers as they average over 21 attempts from downtown per game.

Geneseo will look inside to big man Gordon Lyons who already has 12 double-doubles on the year. The Knights will attempt to limit Brockport's possessions by going deep into the shot clock and run their offense until they get an easy look to either Lyons or Connor Fedge. The Knights have plenty of options from long distance as well, with 4 players all having more than 22 three pointers this season. It was 2 long bombs in the Plattsburgh game, 30 seconds apart with the game winding down, that proved to be difference maker there.     

The oddsmakers, interestingly enough, despite the last game going into overtime at Brockport, have made the home team Knights a slight 2 point underdog. I was fairly confident that the pointspread would favor Geneseo, but that's not the case. Picking the winner of this game is difficult as it will, in all likelihood, come down to who makes a play in the final few seconds. You might as well flip a coin. I did just that and Brockport won. I'll take the Golden Eagles to win another barnburner by a 73-70 final score.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2014, 08:53:41 PM
End of the 1st half in Geneseo with the host Knights leading Brockport 36-34.

Neither team could manage to put any distance between them as the largest lead was a 5 point advantage by the Golden Eagles. The teams had 6 ties and 7 lead changes and Brockport missed a layup at the buzzer that would have left them  tied at the break.

Gordon Lyons with the lions share of the points for the Knights as he has 16 markers on a perfect (so far) night of shooting, He's 7x7 from the floor and 2x2 from the line. Gordon almost has his 13th double-double of the year as he grabbed 9 rebounds in the opening period.  Connor Fedge and Matt Curry both have 9 points for the Knights.

Matt Lee is the high man for the Golden Eagles as he has 12 points going 4x5 from long distance. Patrick Coyle is next with 5 points. Brockport had 9 different players score in the first half while Geneseo had just 4 players break into the scoring column.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2014, 09:38:58 PM
Brockport leads Geneseo 65-62 with 1:04 left to play. John Ivy just made two free throws and Geneseo takes the ball out and brings it up to their frontcourt and calls a time out with 56 seconds left.

Geneseo works the ball around but doesn't get a good shot off with 23 seconds left. Brockport's Clifton Lyerly gets the rebound off the Geneseo three point miss and is fouled but misses both free throws. Geneseo rebounds the 2nd missed free throw and calls another time out.

Geneseo has Fedge drive to the basket as they go for a layup but Patrick Coyle blocks the shot and Brockport's Brandon Caruthers is fouled. He misses the first one and makes the 2nd one to extend the lead to 66-62 with 13 seconds left. Geneseo comes down and throws up a 3 pointer that misses, they get the rebound and fire up another one that misses and Brockport walks off with the win.

Final score 66-62. Another great game for the fans who once again got more than their money's worth.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 11, 2014, 10:11:17 PM
Way to go Eagles--Matt Lee found the range to be that second scorer tonight--Nice floor game by Caruthers with 0 TO's and "boards by Coyle and Lyerly." As usual Poison Ivy made them itch and great team effort. Keep rolling!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2014, 07:59:42 AM
Brockport State 66  Geneseo State 62


Well the Game of the Week didn't disappoint the fans that showed up to take in this contest. The game featured 14 ties and 12 lead changes, with the biggest lead by either team occurring in the first half when Brockport was up 15-10 and late in the 2nd half when Brockport also had a brief 5 point advantage.

Almost the entire 2nd half was a one possession game until a John Ivy 3 pointer put  Brockport ahead 59-54 with 2:38 left to play, which matched the largest lead of the first half. But that lead didn't last very long as Geneseo's  Thomas Decker buried a three pointer of his own, 18 seconds later,  to cut the lead back to 2 points. Ivy once again responded for the Golden Eagles with a drive to the basket to make it a 2 possession game, with just under 2 minutes remaining.  Gordon Lyons was fouled and he made both free throws, but the Eagles big man, Patrick Coyle got loose underneath and slammed one down to make it 63-59 with 1:21 left. Decker responded with another trifecta, cutting the lead to a single point, but Ivy drew another foul, made both free throws and gave the Eagles a little breathing room, making the score 65-62. Port would tack on one more free throw in 4 attempts and Geneseo couldn't capitalize on the Eagles failed opportunities to build a bigger margin from the line, as the Knights came up empty on their final 4 shots from the field.

John Ivy scored 23 of his game high 26 points in the 2nd half. The Knights must have felt pretty good at halftime as their zone defense held Ivy to only 3 points in the opening period. But in keeping with the theme, that you can't keep a good man down, Ivy picked up the Eagles, and carried the team to the finish line. John scored over 71% of his team's 2nd half points and his final 7 points gave the Eagles some breathing room each time the Knights got it within a point or 2. He was 7x13 from the field, 3x4 from long range and 9x11 from the line. He added 5 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal in 36 minutes of playing time.

Matt Lee was the only other Brockport player in double figures and all 12 of his points came in the first half on 4 three pointers. Brandon Caruthers only had 5 points but dished out 5 assists and had 2 rebounds as his floor time was limited by early fouls in both halves. Patrick Coyle had 9 points and led the Eagles with 7 rebounds. Clifton Lyerly matched Coyle with 7 rebounds as well.

Brockport only shot 36.4% from the field (20x55), 32% (8x25) from downtown and 69.2% (18x26) from the line. They had 34 rebounds to 35 for the Knights, and 13 turnovers to 16 for Geneseo.

Key statistic of the game...Brockport got 19 points and 82 minutes from their bench. Geneseo got no points and only 36 minutes from their bench. That was the biggest reason I went with the Golden Eagles to win this game. Coach Dunne has shown on a number of occasions that he has no reservations about switching his entire starting five for the 2nd unit. That enables the Golden Eagles to keep the pressure on the entire game, while giving his starters a needed break.   

Gordon Lyons had his 13th double-double of the year with 25 points and 17 rebounds to lead the Knights. He was 9x12 from the field and 7x9 from the line. Connor Fedge had 14 points, with 3 assists, while Matt Curry totaled 13 points, 8 rebounds and a pair of blocks.

The Knights shot 44% from the field (22x49), but only 14.3% (2x14) from long distance. They shot 72.7% from the line (16x22).

If you happen to check out the box score's play by play it will look pretty confusing, as it currently shows the Brockport men playing against the Geneseo women. All the baskets and free throws are correct but are credited to women instead of the Geneseo men. For instance all of Gordon Lyons' baskets are credited to Jenna Philips and Matt Curry's points are under Bridgett Ryan. ;D I'll email their SID and hope it gets straightened out.

Brockport improves to 12-1 in the conference and 18-2 overall. The Golden Eagles took a big step toward securing the regular season championship as they have opened up a 2 game lead over their closest pursuers. They also own the tiebreaker against both Plattsburgh and Geneseo so they effectively have a 3 game lead. They would need to lose 3 of their remaining 5 games and either Plattsburgh or Geneseo would need to win out for the Eagles to fall out of first place and that isn't going to happen. If I was Greg Dunne I'd be whipping out that victory cigar right about now. (And I know he'll wait till it's actually official, but I'm congratulating him now so I can be the first to do so). So Congratulations to the Brockport Eagles on a job well done. I was hoping it would be my Cardinals hosting the SUNYAC tournament but now the road to the automatic NCAA bid will pass through Tuttle North. That's okay, though, my Cardinals know how to win there and will look forward to the challenge. I fully well expect the Golden Eagles and the Cardinals to duke it out in the SUNYAC Finals for that automatic bid.

Brockport will return to action this weekend when they travel to Buffalo State on Friday evening and then Fredonia on Saturday afternoon.

Geneseo drops to 10-3 in the YAC and 16-4 overall. Although they are tied with Plattsburgh for 2nd place, the Cardinals currently own the tiebreaker over the Knights by virtue of a 1-1 record against Brockport while the Knights are 0-2 against the Golden Eagles. The Knights are back on the court this weekend as they follow the same path as their travel partners, Brockport, and will face first Fredonia and then Buff State.

I had Brockport winning this game by a 73-70 final score. I was pretty close as they won by 4 instead of 3. The long scoring drought that took place early in the second half when the teams went nearly 4 minutes with out scoring a single point kept me from getting my totals.

Another stat worth mentioning was there were only 48 free throws in the game as opposed to the 87 free throws when Plattsburgh played Brockport last Friday. The officials in this game did seem to let them play quite a bit more than that threesome of zebras that were in Brockport did.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 12, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
Good win for Brockport. I believe they have established themselves as the favorite in the SUNYAC. Now their hope is to not see pesky Buff State in the conference playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2014, 04:25:27 PM
The first set of Regional Ranking have been released and as expected SUNYAC teams occupy the top 3 spots. I believe Plattsburgh will be ranked ahead of Geneseo once last nights loss by the Knights to Brockport is factored in. Here they are:

East - NCAA data sheet

1 Brockport State 16-2 17-2
2 Geneseo State 15-3 16-3
3 Plattsburgh State 16-4 16-4
4 NYU 15-5 15-5
5 Hobart 17-5 17-5
6 Stevens 14-7 15-7

Here's the link to the complete rankings:

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/ 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 12, 2014, 05:41:39 PM
Magic--I believe I hit the point spread on the head last night--I agree that PBurg should be ranked ahead of Geneseo. PBurg and the Port styles are so similar that when they play it is a toss up. Buff State has the man power to give Bport fits at home. The Eagles don't usually shoot the ball well at the Bengal hall, but think it is a 6 point win for Ivy and Company!!! Go Eagles
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2014, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 12, 2014, 05:41:39 PM
Magic--I believe I hit the point spread on the head last night--I agree that PBurg should be ranked ahead of Geneseo. PBurg and the Port styles are so similar that when they play it is a toss up. Buff State has the man power to give Bport fits at home. The Eagles don't usually shoot the ball well at the Bengal hall, but think it is a 6 point win for Ivy and Company!!! Go Eagles

Yes scooter, you did have the 4 point spread right on the money. You need to thank several of the Golden Eagle guards for missing 3 of 4 free throws in the final 30 seconds to help you out, though. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 12, 2014, 09:44:59 PM
Magic--They had the earphones in; and I had them on speed dial. LOL--Bengal--I am actually surprised the Buff ST. boys are so up and down this season. They have talent as usual, always athletic group, and experience with their inside guys. Anyway, hope they don't put it all together against my Eagles--Bport by 6--sticking with my pick--miss the Anchor Bar wings--no comparison down here. Golfing Friday my friends--Enjoy!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2014, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 12, 2014, 09:44:59 PM
Golfing Friday my friends--Enjoy!

Enjoy? Enjoy what? The Noreaster that's bearing down on us and will be dumping another foot of snow on us starting tomorrow afternoon. Twenty below zero this morning, warming up tomorrow just in time to get dumped on. Hope Oswego and Cortland get on the road early for their trip to the North Country. Knock in a couple of birdies for me will you.

PS: How good is Coach Dunne on the golf course? I guessing when he's in form he's an 8-10 handicap. Am I close?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 13, 2014, 12:25:37 AM
Quote from: scooterman on February 12, 2014, 09:44:59 PM
Magic--They had the earphones in; and I had them on speed dial. LOL--Bengal--I am actually surprised the Buff ST. boys are so up and down this season. They have talent as usual, always athletic group, and experience with their inside guys. Anyway, hope they don't put it all together against my Eagles--Bport by 6--sticking with my pick--miss the Anchor Bar wings--no comparison down here. Golfing Friday my friends--Enjoy!

That makes 2 of us when it comes to figuring out my BENGALS! The most talented team I've seen, from top to bottom, in years. 5 different leading scorers, 11 different starting line ups and yet we can't get this thing right. I'm hoping that the sense of urgency ( must win at least 2 of our last 4 games) to have a shot at a playoff berth) will have them focused!

If they put it all together and do what they are capable of doing then I like our chances this weekend. Operative word is "IF"!!!  I'm thinking that a couple of coach Ansari's 6 am practices this week has gotten everyone's attention! If so then Friday night could be special. Doubt that we will stop Ivy completely but there's a couple of kids on the BENGALS who I firmly believe have the ability to make him work. And if the rest work hard, take care of the ball, look inside for Mitchell, Thompson and Kirkland ...then we have a chance

No predictions just hoping that the boys play hard. My God if they do make the playoffs and peak at the right time?!.?!.?!!!!

Go BENGALS!!

I love those boys!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 13, 2014, 05:56:26 PM
Magic--Coach Dunne is a single digit handicap---don't play him for money!! I hit driver, and he hits 3-5 irons--LOL--Sorry you guys are having such a horrible winter. You can come visit and get out of it. Golf tomorrow at 7:22 (tee-time). BENGAL--maybe 6AM practices will help but the boys from the Port are not letting down!!!Eagles by 6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 13, 2014, 06:55:02 PM
Say no more!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2014, 04:37:34 AM
Down the stretch they come. Only 2 weekends left in the regular season. For the playoff contenders every game is huge. Seven teams still alive for a playoff berth. One of them will be disappointed. All ten teams in action tonight.


Geneseo State  at    Fredonia State      8:00 PM

The Knights tried to lay a claim for the regular season crown on Tuesday. Instead of tightening up the teams at the top, the loss to the Golden Eagles basically gave Brockport the regular season crown. Now Geneseo will duke it out with Plattsburgh to see which team gets a first round bye...if they even want one. Fredonia comes into this game having won 2 of their last 3 conference games. That's as close to a winning streak as the Blue Devils have had all year. Oddsmakers have listed the Knights as 15 point favorites in this game and the Blue Devils will be hard pressed to keep it that close. Geneseo wins this one 82-68.

         
   
Oswego State  at    Potsdam State      8:00 PM

Lakers have a leg up on the other teams for the #4 seed and the right to host a playoff game. Tonight is a game they have to put in the win column to keep that advantage. The Bears are just playing out the string here but could spring the upset if the Lakers take them lightly. Can you say, Fredonia? The point spread has Oswego on top by 11 points. The last time they met Oswego won by 29 but Potsdam had some injury problems. This time it's the Lakers that have a top player out with injuries. Will that make the outcome a different story? No it won't, but the Bears keep it closer than the last meeting. Lakers win 76-64.

     
   
Brockport State  at   Buffalo State      8:00 PM

The Golden Eagles stretched their winning streak over the Bengals to 6 games with a win back on January 21st. That game was much closer than the final 15 point margin indicated. Buffalo State needs a win this weekend against either Brockport or Geneseo to keep pace in the playoff race.  Brockport may have already clinched the top spot for all practical purposes but I don't see them easing off the throttle. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 9 point road favorite, but I think this one might be closer than that. The Bengals could win this game by 15 points...or lose it by 15 points. At least 7 different times this season, when I thought they would win, they didn't. Tonight I don't think they will win, lets see if they can prove me wrong again. Eagles take this one 87-82.       

 
   
New Paltz State  at  Oneonta State      8:00 PM

Oneonta has 3 games left and is currently sitting all alone in 5th place, just ahead of Cortland and Buffalo State. Their remaining two games are on the road against Geneseo and Brockport next weekend. I don't see any wins there, which means tonight's game against the Hawks is a must win situation. Failure to do so could see them tied for the final playoff spot and would necessitate a play in game, or even worse, miss the playoffs altogether. New Paltz is another team looking toward next year. Losers of their last 8 games the Hawks have been an enigma all season. Losing at home on Senior night to Fredonia, yet beating 4th place Oswego on the road. Hard to figure the Hawks out. The point spread has Oneonta favored by 8 points and the Red Dragons are my pick here as well. Final score will be something like Oneonta 80 New Paltz 75.

 

Cortland State  at  Plattsburgh State   8:00 PM

These Red Dragons invade Memorial Hall hoping to gain a split with the Cardinals in their season series. Going into this season the Red Dragons had won 5 of the previous 6 matchups. Plattsburgh won a close game earlier this season at Cortland 64-61.  Cortland entered that game undefeated at 4-0, while the Cardinals came in at 3-2. The teams  have gone in different directions since that meeting. Cortland is 8-8 since that loss and has an overall record of 12-9. They are just 7-7 in the SUNYAC and are in danger of missing the playoffs just a year after winning it all. Plattsburgh has gone 12-2 since that first meeting and with an overall 16-4 record (10-3 YAC) is one of the top teams in the East Region. The Cardinals will look to get back on the winning track after a loss at Geneseo to gain a  split of last weekend's big road trip. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals an 11 point favorite but it wouldn't surprise me if this game is closer than that. Ill take the Cardinals to win it by a 78-70 margin.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
         
I sure hope your predictions aren't perfect tonight!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 14, 2014, 09:46:38 PM
Bengal-Scooterman and Magic were both off by about 12-14 points. Blowout city-- 4 Bengals scored all but about 7 of your points. I said the Eagles were not going to put it in cruise, and they sure didn't tonight. Another all around team performance with 4 in double figures and 11 in the scoring column. Great Job Eagles and Coaching Staff!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2014, 11:30:23 PM
Congrats on a good win!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2014, 05:17:09 AM
Final scores in the SUNYAC tonight:

Plattsburgh 88    Cortland 71

Geneseo 77      Fredonia 56

Brockport 94   Buffalo State 74

Oneonta 87   New Paltz 75

Potsdam 68  Oswego 66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2014, 08:09:50 AM
Plattsburgh State 88   Cortland State 71

I said the Cardinals would win this one 78-70. Hard to predict a team's going to shoot 66% from downtown and 65% from the field in the first half. The Cardinals were on fire, especially Eddie Correa and Ezra Hodgson who combined to go 11x13 from the field and 7x9 from long distance. It only took Correa 4 seconds after the opening tip to see if the heater was on as he drained his first three pointer. Hodgson didn't waste any time either as he buried one from downtown to give the Cards a quick 6-2 lead. Shavar Fields hit a jumper, then in rapid order came Correa with a jumper, Hodgson with another 3 pointer, Correa with a 3 pointer, Hodgson with a jumper and Correa finished off the 17-4 run with an other jumper and three pointer. Suddenly it was 23-6 and this game was all but over. Plattsburgh continued to pile on and stretched their lead to 27 points at 46-19 with 3:43 left and went into the half still up by that 27 point margin at 52-25.

Coach Spanbauer must have had a few choice words to say at halftime because it was the Red Dragons who came out of the break with intensity. After Fields hit a layup for the Cardinals to give them their largest lead of the game at 29 points, Cortland, led by sophomore Blair Estarfaa, went on a 19-5 outburst and narrowed the gap to 15 points at 59-44 with 13:42 remaining. Estarfaa scored 11 points during that run and Lamard Herron added 6. Plattsburgh took a time out to regroup, built the lead back to 20 points and maintained that comfort level over the next 10 minutes of the contest. The Red Dragons had one last push that narrowed the gap from 20 down to 13 with 2:45 to play but that was as close as they could get. A layup by the Cards John Perez, who followed that up with a 3 point play, put to rest any hopes Cortland had for a miracle ending.

Plattsburgh had 5 players reach double figure and the man with the hot hand, Eddie Corea was their leading scorer with 20 points. Eddie was 7x11 from the field and 5x8 from long range. Shamoy McIntosh didn't start tonight's game but came in and scored 16 points (3x6 fg, 2x5 3's, 8x12 ft) with 3 steals, 2 rebounds and 2 assists. Ezra Hodgson was almost perfect tonight as he totaled 15 points. Ezra was 6x7 from the field, 3x4 from behind the arc and 1x1 from the line. John Perez also had 15 points (4x8 fg. 7x7 ft) and a team high 6 rebounds. Shavar Fields had 10 points (5x11 fg) 4 rebounds and 3 steals. Point guard Chris Manning had 7 assists and 5 rebounds.

Plattsburgh ended up shooting 53.8% from the field (28x52), 47.6% from the 3 point line (10x21) and 64.7% from the stripe (22x34). They enjoyed a substantial margin off the glass 39-29 and had 17 turnovers to 16 for Cortland.

The Red Dragons shot 40.3% from the field (25x62), only 15.4% from long range (4x26) and 73.9% from the foul line (17x23).

Cortland's Blair Estatfaa was the game's high scorer with a career high 22 points (7x12 fg, 3x7 3's, 5x5 f). He added 3 rebounds, 2 steals, a block and 1 assist. Kevin McMahon was held scoreless in the first half but the big guy ended up with 13 points (4x12 fg, 0x4 3's, 5x5 ft) and a game high 7 rebounds. Lamard Herron added 12 points (5x12 fg, 1x5 3's, and 1x1 ft).  Red Dragons with only 32 points from their starters and 39 points from the bench.

Plattsburgh improves to 11-3 in the YAC and 17-4 overall. They will host Oswego this afternoon at 4:00 PM. The Cardinals who sit at #13 in the Massey Ratings and #36 in the D3hoops poll are still tied for 2nd place  with Geneseo in conference play.

Cortland drops to 7-8 in the conference and 12-10 overall. The Red Dragons are still tied for the final playoff spot with Buffalo State, They head over to take on Potsdam this afternoon at 4:00 PM, and what looked to be a game they could put in the win column got a bit tougher as the Bears got some of their growl back with a 68-66 win over Oswego last night....an Oswego team that handled Cortland last week 60-41. This is a must win situation for Cortland if they hope to have any chance for a playoff berth.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 15, 2014, 09:45:44 AM
The 5th and 6th spots for the conference tourney looks like it may come down to the final weekend; barring any upsets. The Cortland/Oswego matchup on the last day should be for the 5th spot and the loser may be in a tiebreaking situation with Buffalo State. Oswego has to face Brockport and Plattsburgh in their next two which would lead to the must-win finale vs. Cortland. If Cortland or Buffalo St can pull a win over Geneseo, that would put them in a great for a berth in the playoffs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2014, 10:28:12 AM
Bengals expecting huge props for last night, staying alive.  Witherspoonesque 3 at the buzzer.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2014, 03:23:19 PM
Potsdam 68  Oswego 66

Upset special of the day as the Bears get a buzzer beating 3 pointer by Joe Estramonte to  take down Oswego 68-66. I'm sure the Laker faithful didn't see that one coming. I know I didn't. I had Oswego winning this one by a 76-64 margin and figured if Potsdam kept it that close it would be a big improvement over the 29 point shellacking the Lakers put on the Bears back in December. Good job by Potsdam to finally get a decent win.

The game was closely contested throughout, with 10 ties and 5 lead changes, and for most of the contest Potsdam had the slight lead while the Lakers were the ones playing catch up. The largest lead in the first half was a 6 point Potsdam advantage of 17-11 at the 12:34 mark. The Bears equaled that margin in the 2nd half went they went in front 49-43 on a pair of Zac Adams free throws with 14:16 left in the game. Three minutes later the score was tied yet again and the teams would trade leads, fight through 3 more ties until the Lakers Rashawn Powell scored to put them in front at 57-55. Daniel Ross followed with a 3 pointer, the Bears Rob Duquette scored inside, but Powell and Keith Tyson had back to back buckets for Oswego and suddenly they were in front with the largest lead of the game at 64-57 with 4:31 left in the game. That's been the point, it seems all year, where the Bears have failed to make something happen... down the stretch. But not today. Potsdam got a three pointer from Joe Estramonte, Oswego scored inside, and the Bears' Tom Graf buried a trifecta to make it 66-63 with 2:17 left. Both teams missed scoring opportunities and with 1:30 left the Lakers went to the line with a chance to extend the lead. They missed both free throws however and that led to a Rob Duquette layup for Potsdam to close the deficit to a single point with just 10 seconds remaining. Duquette was fouled on the made basket but missed the free throw and it looked like the Bears' chances were short circuited once again. Oswego collected the rebound off the missed free throw and the Bears fouled with 6 seconds to play. Oswego with a chance to guarantee, at worst, an extra session missed the front end of a 1&1. The Bears' Colin Peterson grabbed the rebound, passed to Estramonte who became the hero with his game ending long three pointer at the buzzer.

Joe Estramonte led the Bears with 20 points (6x11 fg, 6x10 3's, 2x2 ft).  Zac Adams had 18 points, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assists. Colin Peterson and Rob Duquette both had 10 points, while Peterson had a team high 8 rebounds.

Daniel Ross had 13 points to lead the Lakers. Rashawn Powell had 10 points and a game high 10 rebounds. Jamel Mosley came off the bench to score 10 points and grab 7 rebounds. Mark Candelaria had 12 points and 3 rebounds.

Lakers inability to make clutch free throws cost them this game and may have cost them the opportunity to host a playoff game. It doesn't get any easier for them today as they take on 2nd place Plattsburgh in Memorial Hall at 4 PM.

The Bears try for a winning streak and the spoiler role once again when they host Cortland  who desperately needs a win to make the playoffs. That game will also tip off at 4 Pm.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2014, 03:36:11 PM
4 games on tap for today. Three of them with huge playoff implications. Pressed for time  so just some predicted scores today.



Oswego State      Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM

Cards will win this one 78-66 to avenge the loss down at Oswego in December.
 
   
   
Cortland State      Potsdam State      4:00 PM

Red Dragons regroup and take down the upstart Bears 70-65

 
   
Brockport State      Fredonia State      4:00 PM

Golden Eagles just keep rolling as they win by a 86-62 final score.

 
   
Geneseo State      Buffalo State      4:00 PM

Hope I get this one wrong but I think Gordon Lyons will be too much to handle for the Bengals. Knights win this one 85-80.
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 15, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
I watched the Fredonia-Bport game on u-stream. The Eagles took no prisoners again today. They were up by 20 at halftime using their 10-11 rotation system. They even threw a Christian Lattner  three quarters court pass with a couple seconds left in first half to Coyle for a short jumper. The third team played most of last 10 minutes of game. Wow-I felt sorry for the undermanned Fredonia squad. Congrats, to my beloved Eagles--Keep it going!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2014, 07:45:48 PM
Final scores:

Plattsburgh 82   Oswego 72 in overtime.   I was fairly close with my 78-66 prediction. Needed OT though as the halftime score was only
                                                              27-26


Geneseo 81  Buffalo State 67                   Thought the Bengals would  keep it a bit closer. They were doing fine only down 48-43 with
                                                             16:20 left in the game. Then the Knights exploded with an 18-0 run. I had it 85-80 Knights.



Brockport 93  Fredonia 61                       I had this one 86-62 so the final score was fairly close to what I anticipated.



Cortland 79  Potsdam 67                          The Bears scored about what I thought they would as I had this one 70-65.  4 for 4  today
                                                              8 for 9 on the weekend.


Updated Standings:

1.   Brockport          14-1
2.   Plattsburgh        12-3  Holds the tiebreaker over Geneseo
3.   Geneseo            12-3
4.   Oneonta             9-7
5.   Oswego              8-8  Holds the tiebreaker over Cortland
6.   Cortland             8-8
7.   Buffalo State       7-9
8.   New Paltz           3-13
8    Fredonia             3-13
10. Potsdam              2-13
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2014, 10:38:47 PM
Plattsburgh 82  Oswego 72   in Overtime

The Cardinals seem to think they can turn it on and off at will. Today that attitude almost cost them. They opened up this game much like they started yesterday's game only it was the inside game of John Perez that got the Cardinals off and running. JP hit the first 3 Plattsburgh baskets and Shavar Fields added another layup to give the cards an early 8-2 lead. After Shamoy McIntosh hit a jumper, Perez came back with 2 more buckets in the paint and when Ezra Hodgson also scored inside the Cardinals had opened up a 16-5 lead with 11:06 left in the half. Plattsburgh  would extend that margin to 21-9 a short time later on a 3 pointer from Hodgson and that would be the largest lead of the game for either team. There were 9 minutes left in the period at that point but the Cardinals must have thought the halftime buzzer went off because it certainly looked like they stopped playing. They were getting beat to the basket on defense, getting beat off the glass especially on the defensive end, and lazy passes were leading to turnovers, all of which led to an Oswego resurgence that carried the Lakers from that 12 point deficit into a 4 point lead as they outscored Plattsburgh 18-2 and went in front 27-23 with 6 seconds left in the period. Ed Correa's buzzer beating trifecta brought the Cardinals within a point as they went into the break down 27-26. All Plattsburgh managed to do in the last 9 minutes of the period was attempt 6 shots and they only made 2, with one being the buzzer beater. They did however manage to turn the ball over 9 times without getting a shot off and they committed 6 fouls in an absolutely pitiful display after playing so well for the first 11 minutes of the half.

The second half would prove to be so tightly contested that more time was necessary to resolve the outcome. Neither team could open much daylight and the largest lead was only 5 points by Plattsburgh at 2 different times in the period. Both times Oswego quickly tied the contest back up. There were 8 ties and 9 lead changes in the period and it looked like the Lakers would be the team coming out on top as they grabbed their largest lead of the period at 68-64 with only 37 seconds left to play. It only took the Cardinals point guard Chris Manning 6 seconds to drive the length of the court and make an acrobatic layup and Plattsburgh called time out with 31 ticks left. Plattsburgh chose to foul Daniel Ross on the inbounds pass and sent him to the line for a 1&1. For the 2nd night in a row the leading scorer for the Lakers missed the front end and Plattsburgh got the rebound. The Cardinals didn't take a timeout but pushed it up the floor looking for the equalizer or the win. Shamoy McIntosh took it to the hoop and was fouled trying for the layup. He calmly swished both free throws but there was still 16 seconds on the clock and plenty of time for Oswego to hit the game winner. Plattsburgh's Coach Curle called a timeout to set the defense knowing full well the Lakers were certain to go to Ross. The Cardinals were up to the challenge though as they denied him a path to the basket and forced him into taking a three point attempt at the buzzer that failed to draw iron.

The overtime period was an inside job so to speak, as both teams attacked the interior. First John Perez scored in the paint for the Cards and then Keith Tyson did likewise for the Lakers. After another Cardinal turnover, the Lakers went inside again, this time to Elijah McLaurin, but the Cardinals got a hoop and one from Shavar Fields and his free throw gave Plattsburgh a 73-72 lead. It was the final lead change of the game. After both teams missed several chances, Fields scored in the paint once more and after an Oswego miss, Perez was fouled on his inside move. He made 1 of 2 to make it a two possession game with 1:53 to go. Ross made a move to the hoop for the Lakers but couldn't get the roll and Shamoy McIntosh got the rebound and was fouled seconds later. He made 1 of 2 and after the teams played the turnover game, Oswego came up empty again. Chris Manning went to the line for Plattsburgh and made 1 of 2 but Fields was in the right place, grabbed the missed free throw and put it in for an 80-72 lead.  Seconds later after another Oswego miss the Cards had a breakaway that resulted in a Fields dunk that ended the scoring.

Plattsburgh placed 4 players in double figures led by their 2 forwards John Perez and Shavar Fields. Both players had double-doubles, and were unstoppable tonight when they got the ball down low. Interestingly enough, their stat lines were very similar. John scored 21 points (8x12 fg, 5x7 ft), had 10 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 blocks in 38 minutes. Shavar also scored 21 points (10-16 fg, 1x1 ft), had 10 rebounds, and 3 assists in 37 minutes. Eddie Correa had another good night shooting the rock as he had 16 points (5x9 fg,3x7 3's,3x3 ft) and 5 rebounds in 41 minutes. Point guard Chris Manning had 12 points (4x6 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x5 ft) 6 steals, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and a block in 40 minutes. Shamoy McIntosh had 5 points, 6 rebounds and a steal. Ezra Hodgson had 5 points in the first half but took a bad fall right before the half ended and the coaches gave him the rest of the night off. he assured me he was OK though so i expect to see him back in the lineup next weekend. The Cards have several players with some nagging injuries that they are playing through right now so some time off would be welcome. Unfortuately the last week of action features a Tuesday road game against Potsdam before the weekend invasion of Buff State and Fredonia.

Plattsburgh shot 31x55 from the field (56.4%), 5x14 from downtown (35.7%) and 15x20 from the line (75%). That marked the 2nd night in a row Plattsburgh shot better than 53% from the field. I hope those numbers keep coming. The Cardinals enjoyed a big rebounding margin in the 2nd half and overtime as they ended up with a 41 boards to 33 for the Lakers. At halftime the Lakers held a 20 to 18 advantage. Turnovers were a big problem for Plattsburgh in this game as they had 24 giveaways to 16 for Oswego.

Oswego's Daniel Ross was the game's high scorer with 28 points (9x16 fg, 1x4 3's, 9x12 ft). He also had 4 rebounds, 4 steal and 2 assists while playing the entire game. Rashawn Powell had 15 points (6x12 fg,1x1 3's, 2x2 ft) and 9 rebounds in 43 minutes. Keith Tyson added 12 points (5x7 fg, 2x5 ft) and 4 rebounds.

The Lakers shot 26x67 from the field (38.8%), 5x21 from long range (23.8%) and 15x23 from the line (65.2%) as they trailed the Cardinals in all 3 categories.

Plattsburgh improves to 12-3 in the conference and 18-4 overall. They remain in 2nd place and will travel to Potsdam for an 8 PM game on Tuesday night. They are still #13 in the Massey Ratings and should see some upward mobility from the #36 spot they currently occupy in the D3hoops Top 25 poll when the new poll comes out on Monday evening.

Oswego drops to 8-8 in the YAC and 14-9 overall. This was a lost weekend for the Lakers as they were hoping for a 1-1 split at worst. Not only that but the Laker women went 0-2 as well on their trip to the North Country. The good news however is that the Lakers still have a chance to end up with the #4 seed and host a playoff game. The bad news is they have to win their final 2 games to keep that hope alive as they host Brockport on Tuesday and travel to Cortland on Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2014, 11:56:10 PM
The new D3hoops Top 25 Poll is out and Brockport State is ranked #14 as they check in with 279 points. The Golden Eagles had a 3-0 week and a win at Geneseo which helped move them up the ladder. They were #19 last week with 189 points. The #14 spot is their highest position this season.

Geneseo with a 2-1 week got a few more points than they had last week as they go from 21 points to 29 points but actually dropped from #31 to #33.

Plattsburgh despite a 2-0 week only got 1 more vote than they did last week and fell from the #36 spot with 8 points to the #42 spot with 9 points. With an 18-4 record the Cardinals do not have a bad loss on their resume.

No other teams in the East Region received any points.   

I believe when the Regional Rankings come out this Wednesday, that Plattsburgh will be ranked ahead of Geneseo. Plattsburgh went 1-1 against Brockport handing the Golden Eagles their only loss on their home court. Geneseo lost twice to Brockport. Plattsburgh also has a better SOS, better win percentage, and better record vs regionally ranked opponents. Plattsburgh and Geneseo split their series, each winning at home. 

The Massey Ratings as of 2-17 had Brockport ranked at #5...Plattsburgh ranked at #11 and Geneseo ranked at #21. Plattsburgh has a stronger SOS than either of the other 2 teams.

Here's a link to the complete Top 25 Poll:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/week11   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2014, 02:57:59 PM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 2-16 is Gordon Lyons from Geneseo. This is the 3rd time that Gordon has been selected as the POTW this year. Congratulations to Gordon for the outstanding season he's putting together.

Here's the writeup from the SUNYAC website:


Gordon Lyons, Geneseo
Amherst / Canisius

Lyons averaged a double-double 21.3 points and 12.3 rebounds while shooting a sizzling 65.8% for the Knights last week. Lyons was on fire in Geneseo's duel with Brockport, scoring 25 points and grabbing a SUNYAC single-game season high 17 rebounds. He also added 28 points, including the 1,000th of his career, and totaled 16 boards in a victory at Buffalo State on Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 18, 2014, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2014, 11:56:10 PM
The new D3hoops Top 25 Poll is out and Brockport State is ranked #14 as they check in with 279 points. The Golden Eagles had a 3-0 week and a win at Geneseo which helped move them up the ladder. They were #19 last week with 189 points. The #14 spot is their highest position this season.

Geneseo with a 2-1 week got a few more points than they had last week as they go from 21 points to 29 points but actually dropped from #31 to #33.

Plattsburgh despite a 2-0 week only got 1 more vote than they did last week and fell from the #36 spot with 8 points to the #42 spot with 9 points. With an 18-4 record the Cardinals do not have a bad loss on their resume.

No other teams in the East Region received any points.   

I believe when the Regional Rankings come out this Wednesday, that Plattsburgh will be ranked ahead of Geneseo. Plattsburgh went 1-1 against Brockport handing the Golden Eagles their only loss on their home court. Geneseo lost twice to Brockport. Plattsburgh also has a better SOS, better win percentage, and better record vs regionally ranked opponents. Plattsburgh and Geneseo split their series, each winning at home. 

The Massey Ratings as of 2-17 had Brockport ranked at #5...Plattsburgh ranked at #11 and Geneseo ranked at #21. Plattsburgh has a stronger SOS than either of the other 2 teams.

Here's a link to the complete Top 25 Poll:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/week11   

Pep is curious what the love affair is among pollsters with Mary Washington (18-5), which is currently reeling with three straight losses, yet the Eagles still get 99 points in the balloting. Pep wouldn't have noticed but  Pep Jr. attended a coaches clinic with Salisbury Coach Josh Merkel and therefore was interested in the Salisbury team (a .500 squad) and watched some of the webcast of Salisbury's 81-71 win at Mary Washington. The Eagles have since lost to Christopher Newport (16-7, 8-6) and Wesley (20-2, 12-2) by 13 and 16, respectively. Just curious.

Likewise, Pep wonders about Wittenberg, currently TIED for third place in the NCAC yet the Tigers (17-6) are the 22nd best team in the nation? Of course, NCAC foes Wooster (20-3, 14-2) and Ohio Wesleyan (18-5, 12-4) are ranked ahead of them at 8th and 18th, respectively. And DePauw is also getting votes for a 36th place. That's got to be one heck of a conference. Bet they've got a few national championships among them.

Wait...Pep is seeing a pattern. If a school has a "W" in its name, it increases the likelihood of it receiving votes from pollsters, who subconsciously associate the "W" with a "Winning" program. Let's see how this theory works...of the Top 25, how many of the ranked teams have a "W" in their name?

1    UW-Stevens Point (24)    22-1    624    1
2    UW-Whitewater (1)    21-3    575    3
3    Washington U.    20-2    567    4
4    Illinois Wesleyan    20-3    526    5
5    St. Norbert    20-1    508    6
6    Cabrini    20-1    496    2
7    Amherst    21-3    492    7
8    Wooster    20-3    444    9
9    Williams    21-3    443    8
10    Wesley    20-2    391    10
11    St. Thomas    20-3    379    11
12    WPI    20-3    333    12
13    Whitworth    19-4    297    16
14    Brockport State    20-2    279    19
15    Albertus Magnus    21-2    273    17
16    SUNY-Purchase    21-1    267    18
17    Texas-Dallas    21-2    228    20
18    Ohio Wesleyan    18-5    122    14
19    Mary Washington    18-5    99    13
20    Randolph-Macon    18-5    95    21
21    Staten Island    22-2    73    --
22    Wittenberg    17-6    62    15
23    Centre    18-4    50    22
24    Rose-Hulman    19-4    48    --
25    Scranton    20-3    46    --

Twelve of the 25....batting nearly .500

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
With so many teams picking up losses in the poll last week, it cushions the fall for everyone.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2014, 04:22:03 PM
Three games on tap today in the SUNYAC


#14 Brockport State  at  Oswego State      8:00 PM

The Golden Eagles are coming off another undefeated week and a national ranking that is their highest of the season. The Lakers are coming off a lost weekend in the North Country. An overtime loss to Plattsburgh on Saturday, when they gave up a 4 point lead in regulation, with 37 seconds left, coupled with their last second buzzer beating loss at Potsdam the night before, could cost them the opportunity to host a home playoff game. And if the breaks don't go their way they could miss the playoffs altogether. Tonight's game against Brockport and a road game against Cortland on Saturday, to end the regular season, could spell trouble. They need at least 1 win or a Buffalo State or Cortland loss to be guaranteed a playoff berth. Brockport can sew up the regular season crown with a win tonight or losses by both Plattsburgh and Geneseo. The oddsmakers have made the visiting Golden Eagles a solid 10 point favorite to walk off Max Ziel court with the W. I think it might be a bit closer than a double digit win but it will still be a Brockport victory. Golden Eagles 78 Oswego 71 


Geneseo State  at  Cortland State    8:00 PM

Geneseo could have their hands full tonight in this matchup with the Red Dragons. Cortland only lost the first meeting in Geneseo by a 55-52 score, as the Knights top scorer and reigning SUNYAC POTW Gordon Lyons, had a rare outing where he didn't manage his usual double-double. Geneseo has sewed up the 2nd or 3rd seed, but the Red Dragons are fighting for their playoff lives. They are currently 1 game ahead of Buff state for the 6th and final berth in the conference tournament. The point spread has Geneseo favored by 7 points. I think Lyons will have a much better game this time around and that the Knights will win this one as well by a 75-66 final score.


#42 Plattsburgh State  at  Potsdam State   8:00 PM

The North Country rivals will go at it once again and the Bears will be looking to pull off another upset to help ease the struggles of this season. Plattsburgh is currently tied with Geneseo for 2nd place but the Cardinals hold the tiebreaker for the 2nd seed and will want to hang onto a 1st round bye. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a big 20 point favorite, despite the fact that Potsdam hung with the Cardinals for a large part of their earlier matchup. That 73-58 game a month ago was much closer than the final score indicated. The Bears were only down 63-56 with 3:17 to play before the Cardinals pulled away in the final few minutes. The Cardinals did not have one of their better games that night however and I expect them to show the Bears just how good they are tonight. This one will be another Plattsburgh win by an 84-68 margin.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2014, 08:41:10 PM
Potsdam leads 33-29 at the half despite playing without senior wide body Rob Duquette.

Bears on a 21-6 run in the last 8:43 after falling behind by eleven.

Refs letting them play, Cards had 2 PF and 0-1 FT; Bears 4 PF and 1-3 FT.

Zac Adams has 8 at the half, playing all 20 minutes.

Walk-on Conor Engle [from soccer team] steps up with 6 pts & 5 rebs in 12 minutes of play.

McIntosh & Perez each have 6 to lead the redbirds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2014, 04:58:03 AM
Final scores:

Plattsburgh 76  Potsdam 61                   I had the Cardinals winning by an 84-68 score. They would have but the Plattsburgh coaching
                                                           staff emptied the bench with 5 minutes left to play.


Oswego 95 Brockport 83                       Only the 2nd conference loss of the year for Port. I had them winning  78-71. It didn't help the
                                                          Golden Eagles when go to guy John Ivy went down with 8 minutes left. Hope John's OK.


Cortland 65  Geneseo 53                      I had the Knights winning 75-66. Didn't think that Cortland could hold down Gordon Lyons
                                                          again. The Red Dragons held Lyons to single digits (9 points) for the 1st time all season.
                                                          Cortland, with their playoff hopes on the line, got a huge win when they needed it most.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2014, 11:18:10 AM
"Backs to the wall".....that says it all!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2014, 04:15:36 PM
The Regional Rankings for Week 2 have been released and there were a few changes in the East Region.

Here's the new rankings: Same 6 teams as last week but every position has changed except #1.

East - NCAA data sheet
1 Brockport State 19-2 20-2
2 Plattsburgh State 18-4 18-4
3 Geneseo State 17-4 18-4
4 Hobart 18-6 18-6
5 Stevens 14-7 16-7
6 New York University 15-7 15-7


Here's last week's rankings.

East - NCAA data sheet
1 Brockport State 16-2 17-2
2 Geneseo State 15-3 16-3
3 Plattsburgh State 16-4 16-4
4 NYU 15-5 15-5
5 Hobart 17-5 17-5
6 Stevens 14-7 15-7

Here's the link to all of the regions:

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 19, 2014, 05:12:09 PM
Magicman....quiet response to the regional rankings :)  These are more important than the last one...as you know.  Your Cardinals are in a good position going forward.   Maybe there will be a repeat visit of our teams again. I'm hoping for LeFrak.  Still critical games for both our teams ...as I point the obvious ...a novice to the master on such matters.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 19, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
Sad to hear about John Ivy if its true he may be lost for the season. That would be a critical blow to Brockport's AQ chance but may help the SUNYAC get 3 teams in if a team like Geneseo can win the tourney.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2014, 07:06:05 AM
Quote from: amh63 on February 19, 2014, 05:12:09 PM
Magicman....quiet response to the regional rankings :)  These are more important than the last one...as you know.  Your Cardinals are in a good position going forward.   Maybe there will be a repeat visit of our teams again. I'm hoping for LeFrak.  Still critical games for both our teams ...as I point the obvious ...a novice to the master on such matters.

amh63,

I wouldn't mind a repeat matchup of our teams again, however I'd like that game to take place in our house this time. 8-)  And I'd also like it to be a little further along than the 2nd round. ;D During the 2007-08 season Plattsburgh hosted a sectional that included Amherst. I'd like to see something like that again, with a different result however. ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 20, 2014, 09:54:13 AM
I remember the games up North.  Was it the 2007-08 season?  If so, then you saw the team with the All-American Amherst guard...Andrew Olsen from San Diego...and the two tall players that are now assistant coaches at Amherst.  I can take that case...since Amherst played in the Title game in Salem...hoping for a repeat.  Lost to a fine WashU team that went on to repeat in '09.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2014, 12:47:38 PM
Quote from: amh63 on February 20, 2014, 09:54:13 AM
I remember the games up North.  Was it the 2007-08 season?  If so, then you saw the team with the All-American Amherst guard...Andrew Olsen from San Diego...and the two tall players that are now assistant coaches at Amherst.  I can take that case...since Amherst played in the Title game in Salem...hoping for a repeat.  Lost to a fine WashU team that went on to repeat in '09.

That was the year! Andrew Olsen, Kevin Hopkins, Fletcher Walters, Brian Baskauskas, and Brandon Jones to name a few. A very good team but as you mentioned ran into a outstanding Washington U team that won back to back titles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 20, 2014, 02:48:33 PM
Magicman....if you have not already seen it.....the video series "Road to Salem" Part 6 is discussed and linked on the NESCAC board.  Old Guy is a feature person!  Focuses on the Middlebury game you posted on recently.  Even has footage of the 3OT game up in VT, if you missed that ending last season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2014, 04:51:10 AM
Tuesday Final Score  Plattsburgh State 76  Potsdam State 61 

I wrote up this game 2 days ago and lost the post when I mistakenly hit the backspace key. I'll try again.


Both teams were a little tentative out of the gate and the score was only 8-8 after the first five minutes had gone by. The Cardinals came alive however and over the next 6 minutes used a 15 to 4 burst to go in front by double digits at 23-12 with 8:43 left in the half. The Plattsburgh shooters went cold however and hit only 3 of 16 shots in the rest of the period. The Bears decided to heat up the home court as they made 9 of their final 13 shots in the half and walked off the court with a 33-29 lead when Colin Peterson hit a buzzer beating 3 pointer to end the half.

The Cardinals, as they have done so many times this season, came out of the break with renewed energy and quickly caught the Bears on back to back layups by Shavar Fields and Eddie Correa. The teams would exchange baskets for the next 4 minutes until Plattsburgh, down 38-37, got a 3 pointer from Ezra Hodgson, to go in front 40-38. It was the start of a 30-8 explosion that ended with another Hodgson 3 pointer and left the Cardinals comfortably in front by a 67-46 margin. Hodgson had 16 of those 30 points with 4 bombs from long distance, a layup and a jumper. He made his first 3 pointer with 13 minutes to go and made his last 3 pointer with 5 minutes to go.

At that point Plattsburgh's Coach Curle started to work his bench players into the game and that gave 6'4" freshman forward Owen Mitchell, a graduate of Potsdam Central School, a chance to play in front of the home town crowd. Mitchell is the son of current Potsdam State Assistant Athletic Director and former coach of the Bears, Bill Mitchell.  Owen also played high school ball along side current Bears' forward Zac Adams and was matched up against his former teammate when he entered the game. It didn't take Owen long to get on the scoreboard as he took a pass from Edddie Correa and hit a nice mid range jumper over Adams to boost the Cardinals lead back to 16 points. The rest of the Cardinals' reserves would finish the game as all 13 players broke into the scoring column.

Plattsburgh was led by Ezra Hodgson who scored 18 points in only 20 minutes on the court. Ezra became the ninth different Cardinal player to lead the team in scoring this season. That is an amazing statistic and I'm pretty sure one that no other team in college basketball can lay claim to. Most teams will have 3 or 4 different players lead the team in scoring, over the course of a season and the Cardinals have more than doubled that number. Ezra was injured on Saturday against Oswego and the coaching staff wasn't even sure if he would be available to play on Tuesday. He was cleared to play that day however and made the most of his opportunity. He came off the bench to hit 7 of 10 shots including 4x5 from beyond the arc and grabbed 4 rebounds as well.

Shavar Fields had 11 points with 8 rebounds and Eddie Correa also tossed in 11 points with 3 boards. John Perez had a game high 12 rebounds and filled up the stat sheet with 7 points, 3 steals, 2 blocks and 2 assists. Likewise point guard Chris Manning inked a lot of columns as he had 6 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 points,  2 steals and 1 uncredited  block.

The Cardinals shot 28x64 from the field (43.8%), 8x22 (36.4%) from beyond the arc and 12x15 (80%) from the line. They had a clear advantage off the glass with 47 boards to 32 for the Bears and had 12 turnovers to 11 for Potsdam.

The  Bears were led by Zac Adams with 13 points and 4 rebounds. Tom Graf had 11 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals. Brandon Williams came off the bench to score 12 points in 18 minutes. Point guard Joe Estramonte had 6 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, a steal, and a block.

The Bears had to play shorthanded as they were without big man Rob Duquette who was out with an injury. Potsdam shot 22x56 from the field (39.3%), 5x16 from long distance (31.2%) and 12x24 (50%) from the line.

Plattsburgh improved to 19-4 overall and 13-3 in the conference. The Cardinals are now in sole possession of 2nd place and sit 1 game behind Brockport with 2 games left to play. The Golden Eagles hold the tiebreaker over the Cardinals by virtue of a season sweep of Geneseo, so the only way that Brockport would lose the top seed is if they lost both of their remaining games and Plattsburgh were to win both of their games this weekend. I don 't think Brockport will lose their 2 remaining games. The Cardinals would have to lose their 2 games and Geneseo would have to win both of theirs in order for Plattsburgh to lose the 2nd seed to the Knights. The Cardinals hold the tiebreaker over Geneseo by virtue of a win over Brockport. Plattsburgh is currently ranked 13th in the country by the Massey Ratings and #42 by the D3hoops poll. They will host Fredonia on Friday and Buffalo State on Saturday to wrap up the regular season.

Potsdam fell to 4-19 overall and 2-14 in the YAC.  They will take on Buffalo State on Friday night and end up with a rematch against Fredonia on Saturday to escape sole possession of last place in the standings. I hope Rob Duquette will get medical clearance to play in this weekend's games so he can end his collegiate career with a flourish.                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2014, 06:51:26 AM
Four games scheduled for tonight in the SUNYAC


New Paltz State  at   Brockport State      8:00 PM

The Hawks are playing for pride and would love nothing better that to come to Brockport and upset the league leaders. Brockport must figure out who will make up the points that John Ivy's loss will cause. The point spread still favors the Golden Eagles by a whopping 25 point margin. It wouldn't surprise me to see freshman Clifton Lyerly in the starting lineup tonight in place of Ivy. He certainly has the makings of a future Brockport star. Senior guard Bobby Bell is another option for Coach Dunne as he gives the team another 3 point shooter on the floor at the same time the other 2 long range bombers, Brandon Caruthers and Matt Lee are playing. The loss of John Ivy is a tremendous blow to Brockport but the Golden Eagles have the personnel to get through this weekend unscathed, especially with the games taking place in Brockport. I think that the Golden Eagles will get the W here but it won't be a 25 point margin. I see them winning this one by a 77-66 final score.     
   


Oneonta State  at   Geneseo State      8:00 PM

Oneonta would like to hang onto the 4th seed and get a home playoff game. That may be the only way they can make it to the semifinals next weekend. Their chances of getting the 4th seed aren't good in my opinion. Cortland or Oswego will get a 10th win since those 2 teams are both 9-8 and will end the season playing each other on Saturday. Both of those teams currently hold the tiebreaker over Oneonta soooo...the only way that Oneonta gets the 4th seed is... they have to win both games this weekend if Oswego beats Cortland. If Cortland beats Oswego they have to win one of their final 2 games and they would have the 4th seed. So the Red Dragons of the Oneonta variety will be hoping that the other Red Dragons win that game against Oswego. It will make their chances to host quite a bit better. Meanwhile back at the ranch, Oneonta needs a win to keep their hopes alive in case Oswego is the team they are up against for the 4th seed. The point spread says that Geneseo is a 12 point favorite in this game and has an 88% chance of winning it. Since the Knights lost their last game, and they haven't had a 2 game losing streak all year, I'm betting they won't have a letdown again tonight. Geneseo handled the Red Dragons the last time they met in Oneonta by an 83-69 score. Gordon Lyons and Connor Fedge combined for 48 points that night and I think they could have a bigger game tonight on their home floor. I'll take the Knights by an 85-75 score.

           
   
Buffalo State  at   Potsdam State      8:00 PM

The Bengals are on life support and they have to win both games this weekend in order to have any chance at lengthening their season. The good news is they take on arguably the worst team in the conference tonight. The bad news is they have to face, again arguably, the best team in the conference on the road tomorrow. The Bears won't roll over and play dead for the Bengals so the Buffalo team better bring their A game and not look ahead to the matchup tomorrow that they believe will be the key to postseason play. If they do take the Bears lightly they may find their season ends a day earlier than expected. As I mentioned before Potsdam will treat these 2 final games as their playoffs. 2 wins would  probably relegate Fredonia or New Paltz into the cellar and the Bears would love to lose that distinction. The oddsmakers have listed the Bengals as a 9 point favorite. This is a tough game to predict without knowing the availability of big man Rob Duquette for the Bears. The Bengals have more to play for and they can't get a weekend sweep unless they win the first game up. I'll take Buffalo State to win this one by a 76-70 final score.


       
   
Fredonia State  at   Plattsburgh State      8:00 PM

The Blue Devils come into the 'Burgh looking to end their season on a positive note. And they may do just that but if they do it will be tomorrow when that positive note takes place. Today they will run into a team that beat them by 35 points on their home court. I can't see them turning that kind of game around. They may keep it closer but it still should be a Plattsburgh victory unless the Cardinals are really looking ahead to the matchup they have on Saturday against Buffalo State. Coach Curle won't let that happen though, and if he thought his starters weren't putting in the effort, he'd slap the next 5 into the game to show them how it's done. The oddsmakers have listed the Cardinals as a huge 25 point favorite with a 98% chance of winning this game. I agree with them completely, but I expect the reserves to get a healthy amount of playing time even if the Fredonia coaching staff continues to play their starters when the game gets out of hand. I see this one ending up as a 87-63 final score.       
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
The playoffs begin today for my beloved Bengals. If they beat Potsdam then they live to fight tommorrow. The only game on thier minds right now is the Bears of Potsdam. There is no reason to believe that anyone wearing orange and black is thinking of anything other than how to stop duquette, Estramonte, Graf, Williams and co. At this very moment they travel west bound on thier Grand Tours bus towards Suny Potsdam.  They are focused....eager.... and they clearly understand that thier playoff future will be clearer once they leave Maxie Hall.

The BENGALS are as ready as they can be!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
Maxcy Hall; Jerry Welsh Gymnasium!  One of the all time great D-III coaches, 60 game win streak, 2 national championships, 3 runner ups, 9 regional titles!

A little respect please!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Final score.

Geneseo State 68 Oneonta State 63   

I had the Knights winning this one by a 85-75 score. Oneonta had very few points from the foul line, Geneseo had very few points from the 3 point line. That will keep the point total down. Too much Gordon Lyons (26 points, 13 rebounds) Connor Fedge (13 points 4 rebounds) and James McKennna (11 points 7 rebounds). Red Dragons were missing starter and leading scorer Zach Mager. Mikey McElroy was the leading scorer for Oneonta as he tied Lyons with 26 points. Dan Lee had 11 and Seth Thompson has 10.

Knights improve to 19-5 overall and 13-4 in the conference.  They will wrap up their regular season tomorrow as they host New Paltz. The Knights have clinched the 3rd seed and a first round home game.

Oneonta falls to 12-12 overall and  9-8 in the conference. They are now in a 3 way tie with Cortland and Oswego for the final 3 playoff spots. They will travel to Brockport to take on the Golden Eagles in a contest that could see them end up as the 4th seed, 5th seed or tied for the 6th seed and a possible play in game.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 22, 2014, 12:52:48 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 21, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
Maxcy Hall; Jerry Welsh Gymnasium!  One of the all time great D-III coaches, 60 game win streak, 2 national championships, 3 runner ups, 9 regional titles!

A little respect please!

My apologies!

And might I add that the remodeled MAXCY hall looks very nice! And those NCAA championship banners, 31-2 in 1981 and 32-0 in 1986 (if memory serves me correctly), look extremely impressive!

Please thank Bearnation for his help tonight also!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 22, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Final score.

Geneseo State 68 Oneonta State 63   

I had the Knights winning this one by a 85-75 score. Oneonta had very few points from the foul line, Geneseo had very few points from the 3 point line. That will keep the point total down. Too much Gordon Lyons (26 points, 13 rebounds) Connor Fedge (13 points 4 rebounds) and James McKennna (11 points 7 rebounds). Red Dragons were missing starter and leading scorer Zach Mager. Mikey McElroy was the leading scorer for Oneonta as he tied Lyons with 26 points. Dan Lee had 11 and Seth Thompson has 10.

Knights improve to 19-5 overall and 13-4 in the conference.  They will wrap up their regular season tomorrow as they host New Paltz. The Knights have clinched the 3rd seed and a first round home game.

Oneonta falls to 12-12 overall and  9-8 in the conference. They are now in a 3 way tie with Cortland and Oswego for the final 3 playoff spots. They will travel to Brockport to take on the Golden Eagles in a contest that could see them end up as the 4th seed, 5th seed or tied for the 6th seed and a possible play in game.
If there's a tie for the 6th seed, do they have a play-in game for that final spot, or does the team that wins the tiebreaker claim that 6 seed??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2014, 03:48:59 AM
Quote from: 7express on February 22, 2014, 01:21:01 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Final score.

Geneseo State 68 Oneonta State 63   

I had the Knights winning this one by a 85-75 score. Oneonta had very few points from the foul line, Geneseo had very few points from the 3 point line. That will keep the point total down. Too much Gordon Lyons (26 points, 13 rebounds) Connor Fedge (13 points 4 rebounds) and James McKennna (11 points 7 rebounds). Red Dragons were missing starter and leading scorer Zach Mager. Mikey McElroy was the leading scorer for Oneonta as he tied Lyons with 26 points. Dan Lee had 11 and Seth Thompson has 10.

Knights improve to 19-5 overall and 13-4 in the conference.  They will wrap up their regular season tomorrow as they host New Paltz. The Knights have clinched the 3rd seed and a first round home game.

Oneonta falls to 12-12 overall and  9-8 in the conference. They are now in a 3 way tie with Cortland and Oswego for the final 3 playoff spots. They will travel to Brockport to take on the Golden Eagles in a contest that could see them end up as the 4th seed, 5th seed or tied for the 6th seed and a possible play in game.
If there's a tie for the 6th seed, do they have a play-in game for that final spot, or does the team that wins the tiebreaker claim that 6 seed??

Good question. I've been trying to get the answer to that question for nearly 2 weeks now. The tiebreaker rules are under lock and key and D3 fans such as us cannot have access to them as the manuals are password protected. I did manage to get my hands on a copy of the tiebreakers and I'm still confused. Whoever made the wording for the tiebreakers should have been a little more specific as it is very ambiguous.

I believe there is a play in game if 2 two teams are tied for the final playoff spot. But I wouldn't bet on it at this point. ??? ;D I've been told conflicting resolutions if two teams are tied for the final spot. I don't think it's going to happen but I wish it could have just to see how it gets resolved.

In order for 2 teams to tie for the final spot after tomorrow's games, my Cardinal's would have to lose to Buffalo State (and I ain't rooting for that to happen) and Oneonta or Cortland or Oswego would have to lose. There could be a three way tie at the end of the day.

I believe tiebreakers are used, to determine the seedings. the first is head to head, then the record against teams in descending order, followed by the best conference road record. If you seed all the teams 1 through 5 and there is a tie for the 6th spot between 2 teams, then a play in game would take place on Monday to determine which team gets the final playoff spot.

All we know for certain right now is that Brockport is the top seed, Plattsburgh is the #2 seed and Geneseo is the #3 seed. Brockport and Plattsburgh have a first round bye until next weekend's semifinals, which will be held in Brockport.

After the games tomorrow I'll go to the conference board and plug in the schedule.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 22, 2014, 10:17:09 AM
Plattsburgh can do alot of people some favors if they can keep Buffalo St. out of the playoffs. I still believe Buffalo St. is not a team you want to see on your side of the conference tourney bracket.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2014, 02:50:47 PM
I emailed the conference office but did not get a reply.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
Plattsburgh State 87  Fredonia State 63.

I had Plattsburgh winning this game 87-63. What was the final score again?  87-63?  The old crystal ball had that one right on the button. I need to thank Vaughn Dweck who hit a jumper for the Cardinals with 10 seconds left in the game to give them their 86th and 87th points. I also  have to acknowledge Fredonia's Alexander Grace who missed a jumper with 2 seconds left to keep the Blue Devils at 63.


The Cardinals didn't exactly jump out to a big early lead. They did open up a 17-10 lead with 13:30 left to play but the Blue Devils kept up the pressure and finally went in front 21-19 with 8 minutes remaining in the half on a 3 pointer by Robert Lyles. After Plattsburgh missed from the field, Lyles scored again and the lead was 4. Plattsburgh went back inside to John Perez and then outside to Ezra Hodgson to regain the lead, but Fredonia's Tyrone Clark buried a 3 of his own to put the Blue Devils back in front, 26-24 with 5:30 left in the half. it would be the last time that Fredonia had the lead. Ten seconds later Eddie Correa drained a triple for the Cards and they followed that up with 2 more inside baskets by Perez on successive trips down the floor. Correa hit another 3 pointer and the Cards were up by 8 points with 3 minutes left to play. Plattsburgh maintained that advantage and the teams went into the break with the Cardinals in front by a 42-34 margin.

The Cardinals quickly stretched their lead to 13 points and expanded it to 16 when Shavar Fields and Shamoy McIntosh scored 30 seconds apart on back to back drives to the hoop. With 12:37 left in the game the Cardinals led the rest of the way almost entirely by a double digit margin. Fredonia did manage to get it back into single digits and were within 8 points at 62-54 with 9:06 remaining but Plattsburgh just turned it on once again with a 15-5 burst to build it back to a 17 point lead. They continued to extend their margin until it reached a game high of 24 points at 85-61 with 1:52 remaining. At that point the only excitement that remained was whether the magicman's  prediction of a final score of 87-63 could be in the making. Needing a total of 4 points, and with the reserves in the game for both sides I had to hope that the game didn't get extended with the foul parade. I did need 2 points from each team and for that I thank Plattsburgh's Anthony Baker for fouling Fredonia's Alexander Grace. Grace made both of his free throws to put me right on the Blue Devil's number. and when Vaughn Dweck hit his perfect jumper to give me the 87 I needed for the Plattsburgh score, a huge roar was heard in the Plattsburgh cheering section. ;D

Eddie Correa was the leading scorer in the game as he set a new career high with 26 points. Eddie was 9x15 from the field and 8x13 from long distance. Shavar Fields had 18 points with 5 rebounds and John Perez with another double-double of 11 points and 14 rebounds. John had his double-double by halftime and took it easy in the 2nd half. Point guard Chris Manning, once again, controlled so much of the outcome of this game, as he demonstrated the benefits of a pass first playmaker. Manning had a grand total of 1 point. Then there were the 10 assists, 5 rebounds, 5 steals and numerous times where he kept the ball alive that eventually resulted in a Plattsburgh possession. This guy really does belong on the SUNYAC All Conference 1st Team, but lacking the big scoring numbers I wonder how many of the Conference coaches will put him there. Back up point guard Mike Mitchell also did a nice job as he had 9 points an 3 long range bombs and grabbed 3 rebounds.

Fredonia was led by Robert Lyles with 20 points and Tyrone Clark with 16 points.


       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2014, 03:10:39 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 22, 2014, 02:50:47 PM
I emailed the conference office but did not get a reply.

That doesn't surprise me at all. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2014, 03:11:33 PM
All to soon it's the final day of the regular season.  Five games on tap for today with playoff implications involving 4 teams.

New Paltz State  at   Geneseo State      4:00 PM

Not much at stake here. Knights already with the 3rd seed, Hawks already to call it a season. Only pride on the line and the Knights have too much of that to suffer a letdown here on Senior Day. Point spread favors the Knights by an 18 point margin and I see a final score of 80-65 in this one.

 
   
Oswego State at  Cortland State      4:00 PM

Major implications on the line in this game. From obtaining the #4 seed and a home playoff game, to missing the playoffs altogether are all possible results of this outcome. Oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a slim 3 point favorite.  Cortland has more to lose in the event of a loss and it's Senior Day but I think that Oswego will be up to the challenge. I'm going with the Lakers here by a 72-67  final.

   
   
Fredonia State  at    Potsdam State      4:00 PM

This one is between two teams who struggled throughout the season. Fredonia won at home, now the Bears look to do the same. Point spread favors the home team by 2. It's Senior Day in Potsdam so I'll go with the Bears. Potsdam wins and if they don't escape the cellar at least they'll have some company. 74-71 final score. 
   
Oneonta State   at   Brockport State      4:00 PM

These Red Dragons still with a lot to play for in terms of seeding for the playoffs. There's a chance they might be forced into a play in game if they lose and Buffalo State wins (I think). Brockport responded with a lopsided win last night in their first game without the services of star John Ivy, as they crushed New Paltz 86-66. Freshman guard, Aaron White, came off the bench with his best John Ivy impersonation and was simply perfect as he hit all 7 shots he took from the field. Six of those shots were from long distance and he was also 1 for 1 from the line to finish with a game high 21 points in 22 minutes.   Oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 16 point favorite here and I'm not sure if they can win by that much but I do see them putting another W in the bank. Zac Mager didn't play for Oneonta last night, so it's hard to predict a final score here. If Mager plays the Golden Eagles will win by an 84-72 final. Without Mager in the game Oneonta will lose by a bigger margin, maybe something like 84-62.

   
   
Buffalo State  at    Plattsburgh State      4:00 PM

This is it for the Bengals, win or go home and even if they win they still may go home. The Cardinals on the other hand are already set in terms of playoff possibilities. They are the #2 seed and will await the winner of a first round game. The Cardinals are only hoping to improve their NCAA resume with a win today. Last night the Cardinals reached the 20 win plateau during the regular season for only the 2nd time in school history. It was also the 5th time in school history that Plattsburgh has had a 20 win season and every one of those has come under the leadership of Coach Tom Curle. Today is Senior Day at Memorial Hall and the Cardinals will not want to send their outstanding senior class home a loser, in what may be the final game they will play in front of the hometown faithful. Buffalo State is in a tough spot and with their backs to the wall I expect the Bengals to come out clawing and scratching with everything they have. Bengal's star Justin Mitchell told me yesterday, I might only have two games left in my career, so I'm leaving it all on the court...there's no holding back. Mitchell and his associates certainly have the talent to beat any team in the conference, but this year hasn't been one that's played out they way they've wanted it to. Today could change all that if they win and get some help. A playoff appearance could always lead to bigger things, but first they have to make the playoffs. The oddsmakers have installed the Cardinals as a solid 12 point favorite but I think that's a little too high. When these two teams hook up a double digit margin of victory usually doesn't happen(except when Jake Simmons was going off like there was no tomorrow) and the outcome is usually no more than a few points. Cards won the first matchup in the Queen City and I think they win this one by an 87-81 final score.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2014, 10:01:04 PM
Final scores from today's action. It's nice to go 5 for 5 on the final day of the regular season with my prognostications. ;D There were some tough games to predict but my crystal ball was working just fine.


Geneseo State 79  New Paltz State 68
 
I had this one Geneseo 80 New Paltz 65.   OK which Knight player is getting called out for missing the free throw in the closing seconds to cost me a perfect score on the Geneseo end. I see that Connor Keenan and Jack Eisenberg both missed a free throw in the final 35 seconds of the game. I guess they can share the blame.

The Knights are now 20-5 overall and 14-4 in the conference. They end up in 3rd place and will host the 6th seeded Oneonta Red Dragons on Tuesday at 7:00 PM.

Geneseo got 17 points from Andy Drescher, 16 points from James McKenna along with 9 rebounds, 13 points from Matt Curry and 11 points from Thomas Decker. Decker just missed a double-double as he had 9 assists. Gordon Lyons only had 8 points but grabbed 17 rebounds to nearly double everyone else's total.

New Paltz was led by  Zach Cone-Douglas with 15 points. Kevin Roach had 13, Andrew Joseph had 12 and Nick Taldi had 11.



Oswego State 78 Cortland State 76 in overtime

Again I was fairly close with my prediction as I had Oswego winning by a 72-67 final. It looked like it was going to be 66-64, Oswego winning in regulation but Kevin McMahon gave the Red Dragons new life when he scored with just 10 seconds on the clock. In the overtime period Daniel Ross had two big 3 pointers and the second one gave the Lakers a 76-74 lead with 1:35 left to play. Cortland came down and missed a 3 pointer, got the rebound and missed inside. The Lakers got that rebound and after a timeout the Lakers Kyle Covley was fouled and made both free throws to extend the lead to 78-74, with only 27 seconds left. Cortland came down and missed another 3 point attempt, got the rebound but turned the ball over. The Lakers' Daniel Ross was fouled but he missed both attempts with 12 seconds to go. Cortland's Lamard Herron hit a layup and the Red Dragons immediately fouled Matt Crockett with 6 seconds remaining. He missed both free throws and Cortland was still alive, but the Red Dragons came up empty again on a 3 point attempt to win it. The winners get the home playoff game and the losers get to travel. And just what is the matchup for these teams? You guessed it they get a do-over only this time Oswego is the host.

The Lakers end up in 4th place with a 10-8 conference record (16-9 overall)

These Red Dragons end up tied with the other Red Dragons for the final two playoff positions. Cortland won the tiebreaker over Oneonta and ends up with the 5th seed overall. Cortland's overall record is 14-11 with a 9-9 conference log.

In today's game Daniel Ross led Oswego with 23 points. Elijah McLaurin and MattCrockett both had 13, while Rashawn Powell had 11. Both Ross and Powell had double-doubles with Ross pulling down 10 rebounds while Powell grabbed 12.

Kevin McMahon in his final regular season game went out with a bang as he scored 39 points and had 7 rebounds. Kevin was 16x21 from the field, 2x3 from downtown and 5x6 from the line.



Potsdam State 82 Fredonia State 72

I had the Bears winning by a 74-71 margin so I wasn't too far off. With the win there was a 3 team tie for the 8th, 9th and 10th places. All 3 teams had identical wins against the same teams so the tiebreaker used to give New Paltz 8th place  was the best road record. Not that 8th place is worth anything.  Fredonia and Potsdam were tied using the next tiebreaker so a coin flip was needed to determine the 9th and 10th place teams. I flipped a coin and Potsdam won so they come in 9th and the Blue Devils finish in the basement. ;D

Rob Duquette in his final game in a Potsdam uniform went out a winner and in style as he scored a game high 24 points to finish his career. He also had a game high 9 rebounds. Colin Peterson had 16 points, and Tom Graf had 11. Point guard Joe Estramonte had a double-double with 11 points and 10 assists.

Tyrone Clark ended his career with a flourish as he led the Blue Devils with 21 points and 9 rebounds. Robert Lyles had 20 points, Eric Zwierlein had 16 and Alex Grace had 10.



Brockport State 86 Oneonta State 71

This was another game I almost nailed perfectly as I called this one an 84-72 Brockport win.  Whoops!! I did say if Zac Mager played and I see that he didn't. However his brother did so I'm claiming that is just as good. ???

Brockport jumped out to early 9 point leads on several occasions at 17-8 and 19-10 but Oneonta fought back and eventually took the lead on a Kareem Williams layup with 6:13 remaining in the period.  5 more lead changes and 3 ties would take place before Matt Lee made a layup that sent the Golden Eagles into the break up by a 41-39 margin. 

The 2nd half started much like the first one ended as Oneonta quickly scored to tie things up again. 3 ties and another lead change would follow when Brockport's Clifton Lyerly scored on a layup with 12:23 left in the game, to give the Golden Eagles a lead they wouldn't surrender. Seven points from Aaron White, 2 more layups from Lyerly and a Brandon Caruthers jumper, suddenly put the Eagles up by 11 points and they never looked back. The lead grew to 19 points before 4 Oneonta points cut the final margin to 15.

Brockport had already clinched the top seed and regular season championship going into today's game so they really were playing to better their record in case they need to win an at large NCAA bid. Win or lose the conference's automatic bid the Golden Eagles are in the NCAA tournament. They end the regular season with a 22-3 overall record and a 16-2 mark in conference play.

Oneonta needed a win here to get the 4th overall seed and a home playoff game. They fell from 4th place going into the game to the 6th seed and will now travel to Geneseo to face the #3 Knights. Not sure why Zac Mager has not been seen in the past 2 games but with him or without him these Red Dragons won't be going to Geneseo and walking off that court with a win. Oneonta ends the regular season with a 12-13 overall record and a 9-9 slate in the YAC.

Today's contest had John Ivy make an appearance in the starting lineup and my heart jumped for a second until I realized it was just a symbolic moment on Senior Day to recognize John for all he has meant to the Brockport program. I'm still saddened by the fact that this young man had to get injured at this point in his collegiate career. There will be many honors to follow at the end of the season for an outstanding final year.

The Eagles were led today by Brandon Caruthers with 21 points and 8 assists. Two freshmen, Aaron White and Clifton Lylerly both scored 12 points off the bench. Matt Lee had 9 points with 6 rebounds and Patrick Coyle led the team with 7 rebounds.

Oneonta had the game's high scorer as Mikey McElroy had 29 points and completed a double-double with 10 rebounds. Dan Lee added 11 points and 6 assists. Kareem Williams was the leading rebounder in the contest as he had 14 boards, 7 points, 4 steals and 2 blocks.



Plattsburgh State 88 Buffalo State 73.

I almost hit with my Cardinals again as I predicted an 87-81 Plattsburgh win.  I needed Mike Mitchell to go 1 for 2 from the line with 23 seconds left to play. He swished them both to my chagrin. :( I'll get him back before the season is over.
I'll finish a Cardinals-Bengals summary later when I get home.

Plattsburgh finishes the regular season with a 21-4 overall record and a 15-3 conference mark. They were already locked into 2nd place in the standings and will now await the outcome of the Geneseo-Oneonta game to see who they will meet in the semifinals on Friday. Actually they don't have to wait until Tuesday night to find out who they play, I'll tell them that right now. My crystal ball says that Geneseo will win the game against Oneonta by a score of 79-67. So the Cardinals will face Geneseo on Friday in Brockport in the first semifinal game if my crystal ball is correct.

Buffalo State finishes the season with a 12-13 record and 8-10 in the conference. This could very well be the best team I've ever seen that didn't make the playoffs. And that's not just my opinion either. Others have indicated that same thing to me.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2014, 02:19:28 AM
Well...I just got back from my journey to Plattsburgh NY to "hopefully" cheer my beloved BENGALS on to victory and a playoff berth. Alas it was not to be! :(  Not for lack of effort though. I'm sure the magicman will do a summary of the game a lot more justice than I, so I will leave that to him. I must say that it was good to see the young fella again. He is, IMHO, the most knowledgeable D3 hoopster that I have ever met!14 player and only 2 seniors. My hope is that those underclassmen work hard on the things that Coach Ansari will outline for them about what they need to work on for the next year.

One thing that stood out in my mind was coach Curle's comments about turning "boy" to "men" while they that are at Plattsburgh. He sounded just like coach Faj! I'm glad to see that there are other coaches who think like Coach Faj! An impressive senior ceremony to say the least!

With some good SUNYAC match-ups on tap for Tuesday I'm gonna watch things take shape and hopefully my prediction 3 months ago about the 'Yac being a 3 bid league will come true. There is great basketball played in this league. I'm glad to have seen some of it first hand.

Go BENGALS

and

Go SUNYAC!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
Plattsburgh State 88   Buffalo State 73

This game matched two teams that love to play an up tempo game and as a fan it's usually a fun game to attend. Today's contest was just such an affair. The Bengals drew first blood and scored the first 3 baskets of the game and I thought to myself, we (meaning the Cardinals) could be in trouble. Rod Epps made a layup 4 seconds after the opening tip. Plattsburgh came down on their first possession and fired up a 3 point attempt that missed and the Bengals got another quick inside layup by Chris Thompson. The Cardinals came up empty again, got a turnover, missed another shot and Shavar Fields was fouled trying to make a putback. The big guy then missed both of his free throws. The Bengals Justin Mitchell then got loose inside and slammed one through the hoop to make it 6-0. All three of Buffalo State's leading scorers had scored and after nearly 3 minutes the Cardinals still had a goose egg up on the scoreboard. Eddie Correa quickly remedied that as he buried a 3 pointer on the Cardinals next field goal attempt to start a 9-0 run. The run turned into an 18-5 outburst that put the Cardinals in front by an 18-11 margin with 8:43 left in the half. Plattsburgh would never relinquish the lead for the rest of the game. The remainder of the period would see the Cardinals go up by 5 to 8 points and the Bengals would close to within 2 or 3. That scenario repeated itself several times right up until the break which found the home team in front by a 37-34 margin.

As they have done so often the Cardinals, came out of the break on fire. Stellar play from their forwards Shavar Fields and John Perez, who quickly scored 12 points between them, put Plattsburgh in front by double digits for the first time in the game, at 50-40, with only 4:13 gone by in the 2nd half. A Bengal layup was offset by another 3 pointer by Eddie Correa to increase the lead to 11. Back came the Bengals with 8 unanswered points by the double Jordans. A Rey Jordan three pointer and Jordan Glover three pointer, plus another layup by Justin Mitchell, made it 53-50 with 13 minutes to go. Again the Cardinals would bring the lead back to double digits with another 3 pointer by Correa, to make it 70-60 with 8:17 to go. The lead stayed between 8 and 11 points until Buffalo State made one last push to get within shouting distance. Down by 9 points at 74-65, Justin Mitchell made 2 nice moves inside, on consecutive possessions, to narrow the lead to 5 points. John Perez countered for the Cardinals with 5 points, on back to back layups with a free throw attached, and that was followed by yet another Plattsburgh State 3 pointer, this time by Mike Mitchell. That made it 82-71 with 2:32 left to play and for all practical purposes, put an end to any hopes that Buff State had of springing the upset. The Bengals started the foul parade but Plattsburgh went 6x6 from the line and the lead grew to the final 15 point margin.

The Cardinals weren't about to lose on Senior Day and it was a pair of Cardinal seniors who carried the day.
Shavar Fields saved his best for last, as he put up his highest point total of the year in his final regular season home game. The big guy had 26 points on 10x14 shooting from the field, and 6x12 from the line, to capture scoring honors for the game. He also had 8 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

John Perez was close behind, as the best small forward in the conference once again put up a double-double, his ninth one of the year. Seven other times he was just a rebound or a point away from a double-double. Today John had 18 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block. He was held to 1 point in the first half but poured in 17 in the second period to lead everyone for the final 20 minutes. His season averages of 12.5 ppg and 9.2 rpg leave him just shy of averaging a double-double for the year.

Chris Manning, the senior point guard, who leads the SUNYAC in assists and steals, once again filled up the stat sheet. Chris had 5 assists, 5 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 blocks and 2 points.

Plattsburgh's other graduating senior is Anthony Baker who got the start today and immediately paid dividends as he grabbed several key rebounds and scored Plattsburgh's 2nd basket of the game to help overcome the early 6-0 deficit. His pass to Fields to start the 2nd half was a nice feed that resulted in the 1st points of the 2nd period and helped extend the Cardinals lead. It was the only start of Anthony's 4 year career but he made it count and made a solid contribution today.

Plattsburgh also got another double figure performance from Eddie Correa who had 16 points and 4 rebounds. Eddie hit 4 more long range bombs today to give him a conference leading 70 three pointers for the season. He also leads the conference with 2.8 made 3's per game.

Mike Mitchell came off the bench and had a perfect night for Plattsburgh as he went 3x3 from the field, 2x2 from beyond the arc and 2x2 from the line to total 10 points.

The Cardinals shot 26x60  (43.3%) from the field, 6x14 (42.9%) from long distance, and 30x40 (75%) from the line. They were outrebounded 50-41 by the Bengals, but won the turnover battle as they committed 16 miscues to 22 for Buffalo State.

The Bengals were led by senior forward Justin Mitchell with 17 points and 18 rebounds. Justin is a sure bet to receive 1st team All Conference honors at the end of the season. I'm surprised that the Bengals didn't go to him more often in this game. It seemed like every time he got the ball in the paint he put it in the hoop. I would have fed him till the cows came home, as he made it look so easy with his inside moves. He also had 3 blocks and a steal. He's another player that has been a pleasure to watch over the past 5 years.
 
Point guard Brad Doyley led the Bengals in scoring with 18 points. Brad also had 6 rebounds and 3 assists. The Bengals will be happy to have this player running the offense for the next 2 years.

Legree Kirkland came off the bench to post 9 points with 4 rebounds, while Chris Thompson chipped in with 6 points, 7 rebounds and 2 blocks. 

The Bengals shot 31x77 (40.3%) from the field, only 2x13 from distance (15.4%) and 9x17 from the line (52.9%)

With only 2 seniors on this team the Bengals should be back in the limelight next season and contending for the title. Justin Mitchell will be hard to replace but their entire backcourt returns and that will be the point of emphasis next year in my opinion. 

Sad day for me as it may be the final time I get to see the 4 Cardinal seniors play. I'm hoping that we make the NCAA tournament, even if we don't get the automatic bid, and we get lucky like we did last year. The NCAA gave us a home game and maybe, just maybe, they see fit to do it again. I'm hoping for a 4 team pod this time, with a chance to see two tournament games. I'm fairly certain we will get a bid.  With 21 wins already, the worst we could end up is 21-5 and that usually gets you a ticket to dance.

On a positive note the Plattsburgh State Women clinched the regular season crown yesterday by defeating  Buffalo State to finish the year with a 20-5 overall record and an identical 15-3 conference record  as the Men's team. The only difference is the SUNYAC semifinals and finals for the women will be held here in Plattsburgh next weekend. The good news is that the men play in Brockport at 6:00 PM and the Plattsburgh women will take the floor here in the 'Burgh at 8:00 PM. I should be able to watch the men online and then hustle up to Memorial Hall to watch the women. At least I get to see some hoops action live even if it's not my favorite team.                             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2014, 10:40:01 AM
Bengalsrule,

Glad to see you got home safely. Was nice to visit with you once again but your duties kept you too occupied to really allow us much time together. You need to come up in the summer and spend a few days. Thanks for the kind words, I wish I was the young fella from your post. ;)  I'm sorry the Bengals didn't have a better season, I know it didn't meet expectations but you do have quite a bit of talent returning. (Don't  tell anyone but so do the Cards. ;D) I'm sure there will be more spirited battles next year.

I'll be at my store next Friday in front of my computer from 6 PM to 8 PM watching Plattsburgh State taking on Geneseo in all probability. I assume you'll be home watching the same game on your computer. Give me a call. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 23, 2014, 09:25:07 PM
I saw the Eagles won two games without the services of Poison Ivy. I hope he will be available for next weekend's SUNY tourney(?). The Eagles looked pretty good on video, but that was against one playoff team and a non-contender. They will play hard and definitely have a winning attitude but not sure enough to get past Geneseo or Plattsburgh, if they can win their semifinal. I am definitely pulling for them and wish them all the luck. Go Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2014, 10:40:01 AM
Bengalsrule,
I'll be at my store next Friday in front of my computer from 6 PM to 8 PM watching Plattsburgh State taking on Geneseo in all probability. I assume you'll be home watching the same game on your computer. Give me a call.

Ill be calling for sure my friend, for sure! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 24, 2014, 08:44:20 AM
You have to like Plattsburgh's chances in getting the AQ without the services of John Ivy for Brockport. IF Geneseo wins the game vs Oneonta and could get the win over Plattsburgh, that should be enough for them to get a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 24, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
I think we could have an upset winner brewing in the SUNYAC! Oswego Has Cortland who I think they will beat. And then Banged up Brockport who I think they will beat. Oswego could win 3 games. This team plays really well in big games... they are young and hungry
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 24, 2014, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 24, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
I think we could have an upset winner brewing in the SUNYAC! Oswego Has Cortland who I think they will beat. And then Banged up Brockport who I think they will beat. Oswego could win 3 games. This team plays really well in big games... they are young and hungry

Having to win consecutive games on the road against the likes of Geneseo, Plattsburgh and/or Brockport will be a tough task for Geneseo. Their game against Cortland will be difficult as well. Could be too much to ask of them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on February 24, 2014, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 24, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
I think we could have an upset winner brewing in the SUNYAC! Oswego Has Cortland who I think they will beat. And then Banged up Brockport who I think they will beat. Oswego could win 3 games. This team plays really well in big games... they are young and hungry

Having to win consecutive games on the road against the likes of Geneseo, Plattsburgh and/or Brockport will be a tough task for Geneseo. Oswego. Their game against Cortland will be difficult as well. Could be too much to ask of them.

Fixed it for you. ;D


If Oswego beats visiting Cortland on Tuesday night, they will play Brockport in the semifinals in a true road game. If they manage to defeat Cortland and Brockport, and advance to the Championship game, then they will get the winner of the other semifinal. The Championship game won't be a true road game for Oswego since it will be played on a neutral court. The other semifinal will be the Oneonta/Geneseo winner (which should be Geneseo)  vs Plattsburgh. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 04:58:18 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 Poll was released Monday evening and the 3 SUNYAC teams continue to be the only teams in the East Region that are receiving any votes.

Brockport State had a 2-1 week and lost for the first time since Plattsburgh beat them back on February 7th. The Golden Eagles lost at Oswego when preseason All American John Ivy had to leave the game with an injury and Brockport couldn't mount a comeback without their star. They did rebound to win both games over the weekend. I'm still not sure of the status of Ivy for the remainder of the season. Brockport ended the regular season with a 22-3 mark and won the regular season SUNYAC championship with a 16-2 record. They dropped from #14 in the Top 25 Poll to #16 and saw their point total fall from a season high of 279 down to 199.

Plattsburgh State with a 3-0 week, moved up from the #42 spot to the #30 spot in the others receiving votes category. The Cardinals gained 11 points and now have 20, which is their high for the season. Apparently a 21-4 record in the SUNYAC isn't what it used to be. ;D They finished in 2nd place 1 game behind the Golden Eagles with a 15-3 conference log. The Cardinals ended the season on a 5 game winning streak and had a double digit margin of victory in every game.

Geneseo had a 2-1 week and had their point total fall from 29 down to 17. They were #33 in the ORV category last week and occupy the same spot this week. The Knights are the 3rd team in the conference to register a 20 win regular season, as they head into the playoffs with a 20-5 overall record. The finished 14-4 in the conference and as the 3rd seed will take on Oneonta tonight for the right to play Plattsburgh on Friday in Brockport. 

The Massey Ratings continue to rank all 3 teams considerably higher as Brockport holds down the #8 spot with a Strength of Schedule  of 61. They were ranked #5 before their loss.

Massey has Plattsburgh close behind at #11 with an SOS of 57. The Cardinals have held steady at that spot for the past 12 days. They will await the winner of tonight's quarterfinal game

Geneseo, with their loss last week, slipped 8 spots and is now ranked #29 by Massey with an SOS of 88.

What's interesting is that of all the conferences in Division III, the ONLY conference with 3 teams that ended the regular season with 20 wins is the SUNYAC. And they may be one of only 2 or 3 conferences that get 3 teams into the NCAA tournament. Right now every projection that I've come across has Brockport, Plattsburgh and Geneseo highly placed for a Pool C bid. Two of these teams plus the tournament champion should be dancing come Monday afternoon. 8-) Great season for our conference and hopefully the best is yet to come.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 05:25:27 AM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the last regular season week was Cortland's Kevin McMahon. The big win over Geneseo on Tuesday, which went a long way toward clinching a playoff spot, and the 39 point effort against Oswego on Saturday afternoon, pretty much made him a lock to win the honor this week. Congratulations Kevin, on another great week. Got to meet the young man and his parents when he came to Plattsburgh last week. Mentioned what a pleasure it's been watching him play for the past 4 years.

Here's the write-up from the YAC website: 


Kevin McMahon, Cortland
Hoosick Falls / Hoosick Falls

McMahon averaged 31 points and 11 rebounds per game and shot 63 percent from the field (71 percent from 3-point range) in a 1-1 week for the Red Dragons. He opened the week with 23 points and 15 rebounds for his 10th double-double of the season in a 65-53 win over Geneseo. McMahon scored a career-high 39 points on 16-of-21 shooting from the floor in a 78-76 overtime loss to Oswego Saturday. He made a layup with 10 seconds left to force the overtime period.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 25, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 24, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on February 24, 2014, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 24, 2014, 10:55:11 AM
I think we could have an upset winner brewing in the SUNYAC! Oswego Has Cortland who I think they will beat. And then Banged up Brockport who I think they will beat. Oswego could win 3 games. This team plays really well in big games... they are young and hungry

Having to win consecutive games on the road against the likes of Geneseo, Plattsburgh and/or Brockport will be a tough task for Geneseo. Oswego. Their game against Cortland will be difficult as well. Could be too much to ask of them.

Fixed it for you. ;D


If Oswego beats visiting Cortland on Tuesday night, they will play Brockport in the semifinals in a true road game. If they manage to defeat Cortland and Brockport, and advance to the Championship game, then they will get the winner of the other semifinal. The Championship game won't be a true road game for Oswego since it will be played on a neutral court. The other semifinal will be the Oneonta/Geneseo winner (which should be Geneseo)  vs Plattsburgh.

Thank you Magicman. I suppose I should clarify the "road game" comment by saying their games won't be in the comfort of their own gym for the semis or finals. For a team looking to make a run like they would be, that's a tough task to beat good teams away from home.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 25, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
When the 'Yac DOES get 3 bids in the NCAA I want everyone to remember who first predicted that would happen and when that prediction was made!


Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 07, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
I can't wait until the season kicks off for real next weekend! I'm predicting that the 'Yac will have 3 teams in the NCAA's. Thats right magicman...3!!!! Good luck to all.

    And NYHOOPS8... we hope to hear from you again! ;)

Go BENGALS!!! :D

It won't be the exact 3 I had in mind  :( but my prediction is looking damn good (provided Geneseo wins tonight).  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 25, 2014, 01:34:04 PM
Say Oswego State upsets everyone and wins the SUNYAC. Will Geneseo be definetly out? I am almost sure the NCAA Committee will not have 4 SUNYAC teams in the tournament
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 25, 2014, 02:53:44 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 25, 2014, 01:34:04 PM
Say Oswego State upsets everyone and wins the SUNYAC. Will Geneseo be definetly out? I am almost sure the NCAA Committee will not have 4 SUNYAC teams in the tournament

If they lose to Plattsburgh I could see it.  What happens if Geneseo beats Plattsburgh and then loses to Oswego??  It's possible they could get 4 in that scenario.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2014, 04:32:42 PM
Geneseo probably has to win the conference to make sure they make the tournament... I realize they are #3 in the last regional rankings, but it isn't like there is anyone behind them that is going to move ahead that probably won't get an AQ (anything can happen, though). I don't think the East is that deep and being #3 in the region is my danger line - like #3 in the Atlantic, #6-8 in the NE, #6 in the Mid-Atlantic, etc.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2014, 04:32:42 PM
Geneseo probably has to win the conference to make sure they make the tournament... I realize they are #3 in the last regional rankings, but it isn't like there is anyone behind them that is going to move ahead that probably won't get an AQ (anything can happen, though). I don't think the East is that deep and being #3 in the region is my danger line - like #3 in the Atlantic, #6-8 in the NE, #6 in the Mid-Atlantic, etc.

If Plattsburgh or Brockport wins the conference tournament and gets the automatic Pool A bid then Geneseo will be 2nd in line from the East to get to the table. I think the East Region will get 2 Pool C bids. If Geneseo wins tonight and I think they will, by double digits, then they will be 21-5. Even if they lose in the semifinals and end up 21-6 I think they get a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 06:50:43 PM
First round of the SUNYAC Tournament tonight.

#5 Cortland State  at  #4 Oswego State

The Red Dragons vs the Lakers round 3. Cortland certainly hoping the old axiom that you can't beat a team 3 times in a season is true after losing the first two meetings to Oswego in the past 2 and 1/2 weeks. Lakers are tough in Max Ziel Gym and after putting it to the Red Dragons by a 60-41 score earlier this month they'd like nothing more than to get that kind of separation again. The oddsmakers have favored the Lakers by a 5 point spread this time around. With the overtime loss on Saturday still ringing in their ears I expect Cortland to give a much better account of themselves than the last time they were in Laker Hall. I still don't think they win though and predict the Lakers will advance with a 72-65 victory.



#6 Oneonta State   at  #3 Geneseo State

A lot of Red Dragons traveling the roadways through Central and Western NY these days. Use extreme caution if you meet up with them, especially after the games, as they will probably be in a foul and angry mood. These Red Dragons have their work cut out for them as they try to put the heat on Gordon Lyons and company. Like the Lakers in the early game, the Knights will be looking to prove that the 3rd time is not a charm for Oneonta. Red Dragons have been without their number 1 scorer the past few games and his status is unknown to me at this time. The oddsmakers have made the Knights a 9 point home favorite and I don't think it matters if Zach Mager plays or not. Geneseo beat Oneonta 83-69, a bigger margin in the game he played in on Jan 25th, than the one last Friday that he missed which was a 68-63 Knight win. I think the Knights will move on to face Plattsburgh on Friday night and will win this game by a 78-68 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 07:48:06 PM
Another closely contested affair taking place in Oswego as the Lakers have fought back from a 7 point deficit to grab a slim 34-33 lead at the break. Down 27-20 with 7 minutes left in the period the Lakers outscored the Red Dragons by a 14-6 margin the rest of the way.

Kyle Covely with 10 points and Daniel Ross with 9 lead the Lakers.

Lamard Herron with 12 points and Kevin McMahon with 11 to keep Cortland close.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 08:59:31 PM
The game at Geneseo is only at halftime but the final buzzer can't come soon enough for the Oneonta Red Dragons as they trail by a 43-15 insurmountable margin. I knew the Knights were going to win this game but I didn't think it would be a monkey stomping.

Here's the kicker....Geneseo's leading scorer and 1st team All Conference selection, Gordon Lyons has a grand total of 2 points. Well I did say in my prediction that Gordon Lyons and company would be too much for Oneonta. The "and company" includes 12 points from Matt Curry, 8 points from Connor Fedge, 8 points from Devon Anderson (yea!!  a Plattsburgh product), 7 points from Andy Drescher, and 6 points from Jordan Jones.

Jack Dignan led Oneonta with 5 points and Mikey McElroy had 4. Zack Mager is playing for the first time in 3 games but was held to 2 point in the period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 09:27:13 PM
Final score. Oswego 69 Cortland 57               I had this as a 72-65 Oswego win so I wasn't too far off.

Oswego pulls away from Cortland and advances to the semifinals with a 69-57 win over the Red Dragons. The teams were locked in another battle remniscent of Saturday's game when the Lakers, ahead 43-41, with 16 minutes left in the game, went on a 15-7 burst to open up a double digit margin at 58-48 with 7 minutes to go. Daniel Ross had 7 of those 15 points and Keith Tyson had 5. That would prove to be too much for the Red Dragons to overcome as they could get no closer than 8 points the rest of the way. Oswego continued to widen the gap and the lead grew to 17 at 69-52 on a 3 point play by Ross and another pair of baskets by Tyson. With 2:19 remaining Oswego was content to run time off the clock and Cortland scored the final 5 points of the game to make it look closer than it was.

Daniel Ross led the Lakers and was the game's high scorer with 24 points. He added 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals, and a block. Not a bad day at the office. Keith Tyson had 15 points with 7 rebounds and Kyle Covley had 12.

Kevin McMahon in what was probably his final game in a Cortland uniform went out in style with another double-double as he had 16 points and 10 boards. TJ Hefele had 13 points and Lamard herron had 12.

Oswego improves to 17-9 on the season and will meet Brockport in the 2nd semifinal on Friday night.

Cortland falls to 14-12 to end their season. (Unless there's an ECAC game in the near future).   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
In what was a romp at halftime has turned into a fairly close contest at Geneseo as the Oneonta players must not have liked what I said about them at halftime.

Down by 28 points at the break the Red Dragons came back and got as close as 68-61 and now trail 73-62 with 1:30 left to play. Good job not caving in as so many teams might have done.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2014, 10:17:29 PM
Geneseo State 79 Oneonta State 67

In my prediction I said the final score was going to be 78-68 in favor of Geneseo. The Knights would have looked pretty bad if they had somehow lost this game after leading by 28 points at the half. Looking at that halftime score of 43-15 I didn't see any way in hell how my prediction would come within 15 points on either side of being close. Yet I missed by a single point on each team, and the 79th point by the Knights was a meaningless free throw from a foul that should never have occured.

You have to give credit to the Red Dragons for fighting back and getting the deficit to single digits. Down 68-61 the Knights scored to make it 70-61 and Oneonta had a 3 pointer rim out that would have cut the lead to 6 with 2:51 remaining. The Knights ended the game scoring their final 11 points from the line as they were 11x16 in the final 3 minutes of play.

Geneseo was led by Connor Fedge who grabbed scoring honors with 22 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 4 steals. Jordan Jones had 14 points, Matt Curry had 12 points and Devon Anderson had 10 points.

Mikey McElroy and Jack Dignan both had 19 points each to lead Oneonta.

Geneseo improves to 21-5 on the year and will meet Plattsburgh State on Friday in the first semifinal game at 6:00 PM at Brockport. The Oswego-Brockport game will follow at 8:00 PM.

Oneonta ends their season with a 12-14 record.

The old axiom that you can't beat a team three times in a season was proven to be an old wives tale tonight as both Oswego and Geneseo recorded their 3rd straight win over Cortland and Oneonta respectively. 

My winning streak has now reached 12 in a row and I'm 21-3 in the last 24 games. Season record in the SUNYAC games was 77-15 for a winning percentage of 83.6%.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 26, 2014, 09:33:07 AM
Plattsburgh/Geneseo seems to be a "win and you're in" matchup for Pool C implications.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2014, 10:25:36 AM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on February 26, 2014, 09:33:07 AM
Plattsburgh/Geneseo seems to be a "win and you're in" matchup for Pool C implications.

I think they both get in regardless of the outcome of the game. The East Region should get 2 at large bids and the only way that Brockport, Plattsburgh and Geneseo don't make the field is if Oswego wins the SUNYAC tournament. If that happens then the loser of the Plattsburgh-Geneseo game will probably stay home.

I say probably because there would still be an outside chance, depending on how many upsets occur in the conference tournaments, that if Oswego gets the AQ, and Plattsburgh loses to Geneseo, the Cardinals with a 21-5 record along with a 3-4 vRRO record could still get a Pool C bid. If Geneseo loses to Plattsburgh they would be 21-6 with a vRRO record of 2-4 and that also might be good enough to get in. Again, the key factor here is the number of upsets that occur in the conference tournaments. If the top seeds do what's expected of them, the Pool C bids will be more plentiful for the teams like Plattsburgh and Geneseo with solid resumes.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 26, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
They might well get two at-large bids, but it will depend more on the status quo holding up in a bunch of key conferences which would normally be one-bid leagues.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
The 3rd week of Regional Rankings has just been released. No changes at the top but Skidmore moves into the rankings and Stevens drops out. NYU moves from 6th to 5th.

East - NCAA data sheet
1 Brockport State 21-3 22-3
2 Plattsburgh State 21-4 21-4
3 Geneseo State 19-5 20-5
4 Hobart 19-6 19-6
5 NYU 16-8 16-8
6 Skidmore 16-9 16-9

Here's the link to the complete list:

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on February 27, 2014, 12:55:45 AM
Brockport's John Ivy is out for the season with an injury

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/college/2014/02/25/john-ivy-brockport-basketball-knee-injury/5814531/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on February 27, 2014, 09:33:37 AM
I think its safe to assume that Brockport and Plattsburgh are in regardless what happens in their next game. Geneseo may need to win to cement an at-large bid. No one else in the East should be a threat to overtake these 3 teams so it looks like the SUNYAC 3 team entry into the NCAA's looks good!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 27, 2014, 11:43:53 AM
It should be a very competitive weekend at Bport. I like Pburg over Geneseo by 4 pts as the uptempo will overtake the methodical G-Boys. They are both very well coached teams, but I give the edge to Coach Curle. The Eagles are "all in" and Poison Ivy will be there in heart and spirit; so I like their chances against the Lakers(by 6). Hopefully they are draining the 3ptrs at home with Bell, White and Lee. B. Caruthers will lead them to a SUNYAC championship!!!! Good luck, Coach Dunne and my beloved Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 05:39:57 AM
SUNYAC Semifinals today.

#3 Geneseo State   vs   #2 Plattsburgh State  @ Brockport  6:00 PM

These 2 teams split their regular season meetings with each one winning on their home court. Tonight is the rubber match, with the winner advancing to the SUNYAC title game and a chance to earn the automatic NCAA bid tomorrow. A week ago their was no doubt in my mind about my prediction for this game. I was all over the Cardinals. The oddsmakers have listed Plattsburgh as a 4 point favorite. However, the oddsmakers don't know what I do, and if they did I believe Geneseo would be favored to win this game. In fact the point spread should have the Knights listed as a 7 point favorite. The Cardinals, unfortunately, will not be playing this game with a full deck. Several key components that made this team as strong as they've been all year will be missing in tonight's contest. Whether the Cardinals can overcome these losses remains to be seen. In order for Plattsburgh to pull out a win here they will need contributions from players that need to step up and accept this challenge. It's one thing to do that in a regular season game against a middle of the pack team, it's quite a different story to do so against one of the top teams, not only in the conference, but in the country. Both teams have an impressive resume and it's entirely possible that both will make the NCAA field even if they don't win the automatic bid. But depending on an at large invitation can be dicey, so a sure thing is what each team is shooting for. I think the Knights have the upper hand here but I obviously can't pick them to beat my Cardinals. I'm hoping the boys can reach deep down and pull some magic out of a hat. I'll even lend them mine to do so.   Plattsburgh wins this one...76-73.



#4 Oswego State  at #1 Brockport State  8:00 PM

The Lakers are looking to make it two in a row over the conference leaders. And the Golden Eagles will have to play without their star John Ivy. Brockport is ranked #16 in the country for a reason though and a large part of their success is the depth that this team has. No club can lose a player like Ivy and not feel it. However, Brockport's depth can lessen the loss and that factor was on display last weekend when a pair of first year players made major contributions, as the Golden Eagles got a feel for what life without their All-American would be like. Brockport doesn't have to win this game to secure a bid in the NCAA tournament. It might secure a home playoff game for the NCAA tournament if they win the automatic bid though, so the Golden Eagles have a lot to play for. Hosting a pod of 4 teams would give the fans of the Green and Gold a chance for 2 more home games and there's nothing like home games in March.

Oswego has no illusions. It's win or go home for the Lakers, as they have no chance to go dancing, unless they secure the automatic bid that goes to the tournament champion. Beating the Golden Eagles twice in a row and doing it this time in Brockport is a tall order. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a solid 12 point favorite, but again I don't think the men that make the spread realize that Brockport is missing their star. I think that 12 points is too many but I do think that Oswego's season will end tonight. I see Brockport taking this one by an 81-74 final score.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2014, 01:11:59 PM
2 big ones on tap tonight. The winners, in all likely hood, go to the dance...and maybe a loser too.

B Port vs Oswego. I watched the last match up between the 2 online  and surprisingly enough the Lakers handled the golden eagles before and after Ivy went down (8 mins left in the 2nd half). They were up by 12 at halftime. The problem for the Golden eagles is that they couldn't harass Ross into turning over the ball. he was the General on the court and no matter what Carruthers, Ivy, White or bell did , he couldn't be deterred (spell-check anyone?).

This time around, Brockport is going into the game knowing that they don't have the "poison 1" (and the clear favorite for player of the year!!). Who will step up?. Will it be freshman Clifton Lyerly, the slasher? Or freshman Aaron White (Canisius high, my Alma mater) doing what he did last game (21 points)? What about Bobby "the bomber" Bell, who may be playing in his last game as a Golden eagle? Can senior Patrick Coyle get a triple double or can Matt Lee... hit the 3? (that rhymes). One thing is for sure. Brockport is deep. And they should win by at least 3!

The Cards vs. the Blue knights....ooowwwweee. This 1 is gonna be special! Big question is whether or not Shamoy has recovered from his injury vs the BENGALS (I hate thinking about that game)? If so and everyone else is ready to go then I see the Cards as a 5 point favorite. With manning, Correa (that kid is dangerous), Fields, Perez and McIntosh, Plattsburgh looks like not only the winner tonight but league champs tomorrow. undoubtedly Gordon Lyons (Canisuis High, my Alma mater) is gonna be a handful for Fields and Perez!Plus Fedge and Decker could cause problems from beyond the arc, but all things being equal I like the Cards in this 1 to win by 5. I believe that both teams get in the dance regardless of what happens although Geneseo probably could use the win more than Plattsburgh!

The 'Yac is back..and ready to stack...the NCAA tourney....with the SUNYAC top 3! (yes magicman...that does rhyme!!) ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 28, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
Good luck to your Cardinals tonight Magic!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2014, 01:11:59 PM
2 big ones on tap tonight. The winners, in all likely hood, go to the dance...and maybe a loser too.

B Port vs Oswego. I watched the last match up between the 2 online  and surprisingly enough the Lakers handled the golden eagles before and after Ivy went down (8 mins left in the 2nd half). They were up by 12 at halftime. The problem for the Golden eagles is that they couldn't harass Ross into turning over the ball. he was the General on the court and no matter what Carruthers, Ivy, White or bell did , he couldn't be deterred (spell-check anyone?).

This time around, Brockport is going into the game knowing that they don't have the "poison 1" (and the clear favorite for player of the year!!). Who will step up?. Will it be freshman Clifton Lyerly, the slasher? Or freshman Aaron White (Canisius high, my Alma mater) doing what he did last game (21 points)? What about Bobby "the bomber" Bell, who may be playing in his last game as a Golden eagle? Can senior Patrick Coyle get a triple double or can Matt Lee... hit the 3? (that rhymes). One thing is for sure. Brockport is deep. And they should win by at least 3!

The Cards vs. the Blue knights....ooowwwweee. This 1 is gonna be special! Big question is whether or not Shamoy has recovered from his injury vs the BENGALS (I hate thinking about that game)? If so and everyone else is ready to go then I see the Cards as a 5 point favorite. With manning, Correa (that kid is dangerous), Fields, Perez and McIntosh, Plattsburgh looks like not only the winner tonight but league champs tomorrow. undoubtedly Gordon Lyons (Canisuis High, my Alma mater) is gonna be a handful for Fields and Perez!Plus Fedge and Decker could cause problems from beyond the arc, but all things being equal I like the Cards in this 1 to win by 5. I believe that both teams get in the dance regardless of what happens although Geneseo probably could use the win more than Plattsburgh!

The 'Yac is back..and ready to stack...the NCAA tourney....with the SUNYAC top 3! (yes magicman...that does rhyme!!) ;)

It would appear that Longfellow is alive and well and living in Buffalo. Who knew? ??? :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 28, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
Good luck to your Cardinals tonight Magic!

Thanks 7 and good luck to your Colonials as well. Both teams with tough matchups, need all the good luck they can muster tonight and maybe a little "magic" as well. I'll try and send some their way. I'll be watching parts of a lot of games tonight and the Western game. starting at 5:30 gives me a half hour before the Cardinals tip off to see who grabs the early lead. Eastern, with Salzillo back, will be a handful.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 06:49:45 PM
Geneseo leads Plattsburgh by a 32-31 score at the half.

Back and forth game all throughout the period with the largest lead 16-9 by Plattsburgh with 13:39 to go on a layup by John Perez. Knights would come back with a 9-0 run and take the lead 18-16 on a 3 pointer by Thomas Decker with 11 minutes to go. A Gordon Lyons layup made it 20-16 but back to back buckets by the Cardinals' Chris Manning tied it up once again. Down 23-20 with 7 minutes to go Plattsburgh used the long ball to go ahead once again as Eddie Correa, Ezra Hodgson and Correa  put the Cardinals in front 29-25. A layup by Matt Curry and a pair of free throws by Lyons gave the KNights the final lead of the half as PLattsburgh came up empty on their last two possessions of the period.

Matt Curry with 11 points, Gordon Lyons with 9 and Connor Fedge with 8 lead the Knights. Lyons, Fedge, and James McKenna all with 5 rebounds.

Eddie Correa with a 4x7 display from long range for the Cardinals leads all scorers with 12 points. Chris Manning has 6, while John Perez and Ezra Hodgson each have 5 points. Perez also has 5 rebounds. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2014, 07:08:55 PM
Knights up 53-53 . 11 mins left.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
59-54 knights 8:31 left!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Perez and Correa doing all the Cards scoring!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 07:20:17 PM
All tied up at 64 with 4:15 left to go. It's a barnburner.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 07:25:33 PM
69-68 Geneseo in front with 2:08 left to play. Knights take a time out and have the ball.  Geneseo works the ball and fails to hit the rim on their shot and is called for a shot clock violation.

Plattsburgh comes down and misses a three point attempt and Geneseo rebounds and calls time out with 1:06 left to play.

Manning is fouled and goes to the line and misses both free throws but Plattsburgh gets the rebound and Ezra Hodgson makes a jumper to give Plattsburgh the lead 70-69 with 44 seconds left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2014, 07:27:48 PM
1:06 left 69-68 Knights!  Go Cards!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 07:50:17 PM
What a play by John Perez to  save the game for the Cardinals. Up 70-69 the Cardinals had to play defense against the Knights  who had the ball and a chance to win the game with 15 seconds left in the game. Perez managed to steal the ball from Connor Fedge and was fouled with 9 seconds to go. John makes the 1st free throw but misses the second and as the ball bounces off the rim and toward the sideline Perez manages to grab the ball before a Geneseo player gets there and as he's falling out of bounds has the smarts to call time out.

Plattsburgh inbounds the ball after the time out and Perez is fouled once again. This time he makes both free throws to give the Cardinals the win 73-69. Geneseo has one last attempt at a three pointer that is no good and Plattsburgh survives to advance to the Championship game for the 2nd year in a row.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 28, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
Nice heady game by your Cardinals late in the 2nd half....lead by their tough defense....especially when they were down by 7?  Go Cardinals!....Magicman :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 28, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Congrats Magic!  Good luck to the Cardinals tomorrow evening!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 08:12:30 PM
Thanks amh63 and 7 express, I guess there was a little magic left in the hat after all. 8-)

For the Cardinals to win this game when they were missing their top two leading scorers is simply a testament to how well this group of young men came together as a team. I don't know of too many schools that could pull off what the Cardinals did today. Playing shorthanded against one of the top teams in the country and coming back from a 7 point deficit is also indicative of what a great job the coaching staff did in getting these guys ready for this game as well as carrying out the game plan. I'm not sure if they can win on Saturday against the winner of the 2nd semifinal game but this was the one they needed most of all because it should guarantee them a return trip to the NCAA's regardless of the outcome of tomorrow's contest.

I will be walking on air for the rest of the weekend
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on February 28, 2014, 08:14:54 PM
Western could've used some of that magic too, but I know it has to go to the Cardinals first, lol.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 09:12:17 PM
Brockport leads Oswego 30-19 at the half


Brockport comes roaring out of the gate and grabs a quick 8-2 lead on the strength of 3 baskets by freshman Clifton Lyerly. The Golden Eagles would extend that lead as Aaron White and Matt Lee connected on back to back 3 pointers. When Brandon Caruthers scored on a layup a short time later Brockport had opened up an 18-4 advantage with 13:42 left in the period and Oswego needed to regroup. The Lakers managed to cut the lead to 8 points at 18-10 but Brockport went back in front 21-10 with 11 minutes left. The Golden Eagles had a dry spell over the next 3:15 before they finally scored another point and the Lakers crept back into contention as a layup by Rashawn Powell pulled them within 6 at 21-15. Aaron White broke the Brockport dry spell with a free throw and Bobby Bell and Matt Lee followed with layups to restore the lead back to double digits at 26-15. Another layup by Bell and a pair of free throws by White gave the Eagles their 2nd largest lead of the half at 30-17 before a pair of free throws by Oswego's Kyle Covley made it 30-19 at the break.

The 2 freshmen, Clifton Lyerly and Aaron White, lead the Eagles with 6 points each and Matt Lee had 5.

Daniel Ross led the Lakers with 6 points.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 09:35:00 PM
Brockport pulling away from the Lakers. Now in front 68-44 with 5:12 left to play.

Brockport vs Plattsburgh tomorrow for the rubber match and all the marbles.  Early line has the Golden Eagles listed as a 5 point favorite.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 10:00:19 PM
Final Score Brockport State 77 Oswego 56. 

I had the Golden Eagles wining this one by an 81-74 final score. Close with the Brockport total, expected a better game from the Lakers.  Brockport gains a measure of revenge and will try to do the same thing tomorrow to avenge the only home loss they had all year. Should be another good game, wish I was there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 28, 2014, 10:00:35 PM
Magic how come Plattsburgh is missing 2 starters? Will they play tomorrow?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2014, 10:16:18 PM
Quote from: bports on February 28, 2014, 10:00:35 PM
Magic how come Plattsburgh is missing 2 starters? Will they play tomorrow?

Not sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 02:10:00 AM
Kevin McMahon completed the Triple Play as the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week was named to the D3hoops Team of the Week for his outstanding play during the week of February 17-23. Kevin was also named as the ECAC Upstate Player of the Week to sweep the 3 awards just as the other 2 SUNYAC players, Justin Mitchell and John Ivy did earlier in the season.  Here's the write up from D3hoops.

Kevin McMahon
"McMahon scored a career-high 39 points in overtime loss to Oswego and added his 10th double-double of season in win vs. Geneseo. McMahon averaged 31 points and 11 rebounds for the week, shooting 63 percent from the floor and 5-for-7 from beyond the arc."

Here's a link to the complete Team of the Week:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2013-14/week13

Here's the write up from the ECAC website:

Kevin McMahon – SUNY Cortland
Senior, Forward, Hoosick Falls, NY

"McMahon averaged 31 points and 11 rebounds per game and shot 63 percent from the field (71 percent from 3-point range) in a 1-1 week for the Red Dragons. He opened the week with 23 points and 15 rebounds for his 10th double-double of the season in a 65-53 win over Geneseo. McMahon scored a career-high 39 points on 16-of-21 shooting from the floor in a 78-76 overtime loss to Oswego Saturday. He made a layup with 10 seconds left to force the overtime period."


Great way to end an outstanding collegiate career.  Congratulations Kevin. 8-)



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 06:05:48 AM
Plattsburgh State 73 Geneseo State 69

Quite a game the Brockport fans got to see today in the first semifinal game. The box score says that there were 600 fans on hand for this game and 1500 on hand for the 2nd semifinal between Brockport and Oswego. The smaller crowd certainly got the better game in terms of competitiveness.

There were 22 lead changes and 11 ties in this contest before the Cardinals came up with the decisive plays in the final 45 seconds of the game.

Eddie Correa was the game's high scorer with 20 points as he once again demonstrated why he leads the SUNYAC with the most 3 pointers. He was 5 for 12 from long range but it was his 2 blocks that had almost as big an impact as his 20 points. The Cardinals were down 59-52 as Geneseo had opened up some daylight with a 10-3 run with 9 minutes remaining. The Cards scored to cut the lead to 5 points and on Geneseo's next possession the 6'1" Correra blocked Connor Fedge's attempt at a layup. Plattsburgh got the ball off the block and the Cardinals John Perez ultimately scored on a putback to cut the lead to 3. Again Geneseo came down and went to Fedge, who got loose inside for another layup attempt and once again Correa blocked it from behind to give the Cardinals the ball. This time Correa finished off the turnover with another one of his patented three pointers as the Cardinals tied the score and ended the Knights momentum. Those 2 plays were as important as anything else that occurred in the game. It was a huge swing at a time when the Cardinals seemed to be most vulnerable. The 7 point advantage that Geneseo  had was their largest lead of the game and they were looking for more. And instead, with 7:30 left to play, the score was tied at 59 with the 7-0 Cardinal run. The lead was never greater than 3 points for either team, from that point until the final score.

Correa was just one of the many heroes for Plattsburgh and though he was the leading scorer my MVP award has to go to senior forward John Perez. John once again managed a double-double of 18 points and 13 rebounds. That's hard enough to do but when you have to do it on the same floor that has Gordon Lyons, it makes it even tougher, as the big man for the Knights has been a nearly unstoppable force this year with his inside game.

John's 13 rebounds made him the leading rebounder in tonight's game. He just missed scoring honors by 2 points, had 6 assists which was also a game high and topped it off with another game high of 4 steals. And then there were the key plays he made in the last few seconds of the game.  Here's what I posted earlier as the game was going on:


"What a play by John Perez to  save the game for the Cardinals. Up 70-69 the Cardinals had to play defense against the Knights  who had the ball and a chance to win the game with 15 seconds left to play. Perez managed to steal the ball from Connor Fedge and was fouled with 9 seconds to go. John makes the 1st free throw but misses the second and as the ball bounces off the rim toward the sideline, Perez manages to grab the ball before a Geneseo player gets there and as he's falling out of bounds has the smarts to call time out with 7 seconds left.

Plattsburgh inbounds the ball after the time out and Perez is fouled once again. This time he makes both free throws to give the Cardinals the win 73-69. Geneseo has one last attempt at a three pointer that is no good and Plattsburgh survives to advance to the Championship game for the 2nd year in a row."

That's why John gets the MVP award for tonight's game.

Ezra Hodgson was another Cardinal player that made some big time plays to keep the Cardinals in this game. It seemed like every time Ezra scored it was to either tie the game up or give Plattsburgh the lead right up until his final jumper which turned out to be the winning points with 44 seconds left. Ezra scored 18 points and had 4 rebounds while logging a season high 33 minutes of action.

Point guard Chris Manning had 8 points and 4 assists and did his usual stellar job of running the Cardinal offense and distributing the ball. Back up point guard Mike Mitchell also had a good game with 4 rebounds 3 points and 2 assists.

Anthony Baker who normally comes off the bench was needed in a starting role today and contributed 21 valuable minutes guarding the Knights primary option Gordon Lyons. He did a decent job on Lyons limiting the Knights big man to 7 points and 4 rebounds when he was in the game. Anthony had 4 points and grabbed 3 rebounds and had a big basket when the Knights went up by 2 late in the game. Anthony got the ball on the left side and drove to the hoop to score and tie the game at 66. For a guy who doesn't usually see action at a crucial moment in a big game Anthony came through when he was needed.         

The Cardinals didn't have a great day shooting the rock as they were only 25x68 from the field (36.8%). They were 8x29 from 3 point land (27.6%) and 15x22 (68.2%) from the line. They ended up with 37 rebounds to 38 for Geneseo.

The Knights had a better day shooting as they were 26x51 (51%) from the field, 7x14 (50%) from long range and 10x15 (66.7%) from the line. The key stat that countered the better shooting by Geneseo was the turnover battle. The Knights gave the ball away 14 times while the Cardinals only had 5 turnovers, one of their best performances all year. The Cardinals got 12 points off those turnovers to 7 points for Geneseo off the Cardinal giveaways. An even bigger factor was the 21 2nd chance points that Plattsburgh had to only 7 for the Knights.     
                       
Geneseo got 18 points from Gordon Lyons who almost matched Perez's double-double with 12 rebounds. Matt Curry had 18 points also, along with 6 rebounds. Connor Fedge added 16 points with 6 rebounds while Devon Anderspn had 8 points and 2 rebounds off the bench. Point guard Thomas Decker had 6 assists, 3 rebounds, and 2 points. James Mckenna  also came off the bench with 6 rebounds, 5 points, 4 assists and 2 steals.

The Knights will now await their fate on Monday and hope that the NCAA will award them one of the 19 at large bids up for grabs. They certainly have the resume for one of the coveted bids with a 21-6 overall record. They really don't have a bad loss on their slate and if the East Region gets 2 at large bids then they are in. Personally I think they get that bid.

Plattsburgh advances to face the regular season champs on their home court once again. Things are a little different this time around with some key personnel missing on both sides. For the 3rd time this year Plattsburgh has to face the toughest 2 teams in the SUNYAC (other than themselves) in back to back games while their opponents didn't have to do that. Looks like another great game on tap. Regardless of the outcome both teams along with Geneseo should all get tickets to the Big Dance. Certainly would be nice to see that happen.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 06:10:28 AM
The SUNYAC got a little ink on the front page of D3hoops Friday night.  Here's what was said:

"Edward Correa scored 20 and Ezra Hodgson and John Perez added 18 apiece as Plattsburgh State advanced to the SUNYAC title game, defeating Geneseo 73-69. Brockport advanced to the title game as well, as Aaron White scored 18 points including 12 in the second half to lead the Eagles to a convincing 77-56 victory over Oswego."

Hey, I said it was a little ink...what did you expect. ;D   Here's the link to the front page:

http://d3hoops.com/notables/2014/02/wrapup-feb28-men
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 03:34:01 PM
Brockport 77 Oswego 56

Short summary of yesterday's game.

Brockport didn't waste any time jumping on the Lakers. Five minutes into the game the score was 13-4 and 2 possessions later it was 18-4. The Lakers managed to get within 6 points at 21-15 but the Golden Eagles responded with 5 unanswered markers to once again return the lead to double digits. It would stay that way heading into the break at 30-19.

The Lakers came out of the locker room and cut into the lead and once again tried to make a game of it as they narrowed the lead to 6 points at 31-25. They continued to hang around and after Brockport once again built the lead back to 11, Oswego got a pair of bombs from Daniel Ross and Kyle Covley, on back to back possessions to get within shouting distance again at 40-34 with 14 minutes left in the game. They would get no close as the Golden Eagles put together a 22-8 run over the next 7 minutes to build a 20 point lead at 62-42 and effectively put the game away. It was then, just a question, of what the final margin would be.

Brockport was led by freshman Aaron White who came off the bench and scored 18 points on 6x11 shooting from the field. He was 3x5 from long distance and 3 x4 from the line. In the 3 games that Brockport has been without the services of John Ivy, White, who was averaging 4.3 points per game, has scored 21 points, 12 points and 18 points. His court time has increased from 16 minutes a game to 22 minutes a game. He has certainly helped pick up the slack for the loss of Ivy.

Clifton Lyerly, another freshman has also been instrumental in helping Brockport cover Ivy's loss. Lyerly scored 12 points yesterday and had 8 rebounds with 3 assists.

Point guard Brandon Caruthers is the glue that will hold this team together and yesterday he had 12 points, 5 rebounds 4 steals and 1 assist. Patrick Coyle came offthe bench to grab a team high 10 rebounds to go with his 5 points. Olusola Adeniran had 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks, and a steal.

Brockport outshot the Lakers from the field 45.2% (28x62) to 28.3% (17x60) and from long range 41.7% (5x12) to 10.5% (2x19). Pretty hard to win a ballgame with shooting percentages that the Lakers put up in this game. They did mangae to outscore the Golden Eagles from the line 20x23 to 16x26 but the 4 points were meaningless in the scope of the game. The Lakers were outrebounded 46-37 and had 14 turnovers to 12 for Brockport.  Brockport got 23 points off turnovers to 7 for Oswego. The Golden Eagles also got 38 points from their bench to only 14 for the Lakers. In my prediction for this game I mentioned how the depth of Brockport has made them a national power this year. That depth was never more evident than in this game as the Golden Eagles simply outplayed the Lakers in every category. But they've been doing that to teams all year long.

Oswego was led by Rashawn Powell with a double-double of 17 points and a game high 12 rebounds. Daniel Ross added 11 points but was only 3x17 from the field as the Brockport guards were all over him the entire game. Walter Sampson added 10 points off the bench. A telling statistic is that Oswego as a team only had 4 assists and no player had more than 1.

Brockport improves to 23-3 and will face Plattsburgh in the Championship Game at 4 PM today

Oswego closes out their season with a 17-10 overall record.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 03:58:37 PM
The Big Game is finally here and the top two teams in the conference have fittingly avoided the upsets to advance to the championship and earn the automatic NCAA invitation to the Division III tournament.

Plattsburgh State at Brockport State  4:00 PM

Both teams come into this game with a slghtly different look than what was on display in their previous 2 matchups. The Golden Eagles have lost John Ivy, their Mr. Everything. Ivy has made a strong case for Player of the Year honors in the SUNYAC despite missing the last 2 games of  the regular season and the playoffs. His 21 ppg average led the conference in scoring but that was only 1 facet of his game. Brockport however has made up for his loss going 3-0 in the games they haven't had him. The depth of this team has carried them and the coaching staff is hoping it will continue to do so in the NCAA tournament.

Plattsburgh is missing their top two scorers for today's contest. Shavar Fields (14.5 ppg, 6.2 rpg) is done for the year and he was the leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder on the team. Shamoy McIntosh has been playing injured for the past month and he was the leading scorer on the team for most of the year until his numbers slipped and Fields overtook him. McIntosh went down in the last regular season game against Buffalo State and is expected to return to the lineup but won't see any action again today. He is averaging 12.8 ppg and is the 3rd best rebounder with 4.2 rpg. The loss of both of these players is certainly a big handicap going into a game of this magnitude against one of the best teams in the country.

I didn't think there was any way that the Cardinals could win yesterday's game against Geneseo but I sure wasn't going to pick the Knights to beat my Cardinals. I feel more apprehensive today than I diod yesterday and for good reason. The Cards had to work their butts off to defeat geneseo while the Eagles had a relatively easier time in their game against the Lakers. With the bench of the Cardinals considerably shorter than Brockport's I wonder how much gas my guys have left in the tank. I'm still going with them and hope they come out with a nothing to lose attitude and start knocking down shots from the rafters. The oddsmakers have the Golden Eagles favored by a 5 point margin which should be at least 12 points with the Cardinal's missing personnel.  I'm going with Plattsburgh to win a barnburner 82-80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 04:24:02 PM
Plattsburgh leads Brockport 19-6 after 9 minutes have gone by in the game. Might be the best opportunity I have to crow a bit about the Cardinals so I figured I'd get it in while I could. ;D

Cardinals still lead 29-16 with 4:07 left in the first period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 04:59:44 PM
Plattsburgh leads Brockport 37-21 at the half.

If you told me Plattsburgh would enjoy a 16 point halftime lead in this game I'd ask you what you were smoking. The Cardinals have been in front the entire period and after opening up with a 16-5 outburst they have maintained and increased that double digit margin and led by as many as 17 points.

John Perez, is taking up where he left off in yesterday's game as he leads Plattsburgh with 9 points and Ezra Hodgson is close behind with 8. Eddie Correa has hit a pair of 3 pointers to add 6 points. The X-Man, Xavier Thomas, has come off the bench to score 5 points and grab 4 rebounds. Alan Siergiej has also come off the bench and added 5 points with 2 rebounds.

Brandon Caruthers leads Brockport with 5 points. Clifton Lyerly and Matt Lee both have 4 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2014, 05:19:50 PM
The Golden Eagles are trying to come back. Down 7 with 10:35 left! Go Cards. If they could make some free throws this game would be over!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2014, 05:22:31 PM
Hodgson for 3!!!! Cards up by 13!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 05:24:55 PM
Brockport close to within 5 points at 43-38 but the Cardinals have responded with an 8-0 run capped by a Ezra Hodgson 3 pointer to build it back up to a 13 point, 51-38 advantage, with 9 minutes left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
And it's now officially a barnburner. Brockport trails by 2 points 52-50 with 2:34 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2014, 05:42:41 PM
I'm betting that magicman has 2 fingernails left!!! Cards by 4 under 1 min!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2014, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2014, 05:42:41 PM
I'm betting that magicman has 2 fingernails left!!! Cards by 4 under 1 min!

Make that 1 fingernail...Cards by 2 !! Timeout. I'm praying for you Magicman!  Go Cards!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2014, 05:58:10 PM
Brockport wins in a shocker 57-56.

That's a stunning outcome to a game that no one should want to see. Hard to believe the coaching staff didn't remind the players that they had no time outs left.

Congratulations to Brockport for coming back from such a big deficit to get the win. Wish it had been decided on a basket instead of the way it ended.

I'm watching the Brockport players cutiing down the nets as I type this. How fitting that the first cut was reserved for John Ivy. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on March 01, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
magicman, sorry for both of us.  great games we lost today.  thanks for keeping this, and a half dozen other boards going all season.  you ROCK.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 01, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
Congrats to the Golden Eagles for a nice comeback win (with some help at the end). NCAAs next.

I haven't been around much but it would seem that Plattsburgh gets an at large bid? Their losses have been strong from looking over the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 01, 2014, 11:48:42 PM
I'm more concerned about losing a 19 point lead than someone calling a Time-Out we didn't have. There was still 2.5 seconds left and there was a shot taken that hit the rim. Wasn't there a bad pass to allow Brockport to Tie the score on the previous possession ? There was a 5 second call on another late possession and Brockport scored on the ensueing possession.  Watched the game on the internet and there were too many mistakes from 15 minute mark of the 2nd half to the end.   I hope Manning doesn't let this ruin his career (which isn't over yet).

Good Luck to both team if the NCAA does the right thing.  Always pull for the SUNYAC in the playoffs no matter who makes it.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 02, 2014, 07:46:18 AM
A super SUNYAC final, I couldn't ask for anymore excitement. I agree to bad that it couldn't have been decided on a Bport basket other than mistaken timeout technical. The second half comeback was a phenominal effort by the entire squad and specially, B. Caruthers. That "Don't give up, Don't ever give up" attitude was really something to watch. Good luck to hopefully all 3 SUNYAC teams in the dance. REPRESENT BOYS--Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on March 02, 2014, 08:26:59 AM
Shocking game to decide to the SUNYAC championship. I believe Plattsburgh is safe for an at-large bid. Geneseo may be sweating it out now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 02, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
Like I said 5 months ago, the SUNYAC is a 3 bid league. No need for the Cards or the Knights to sweat. Heck, 1 of them should get a hosting opportunity along with the Golden Eagles.

You must admit, this is a game that the Cards lost and not 1 where the Golden Eagles won. Congrats to Brockport on winning the 'Yac championship. I'm curious how it would work if both the Cards men and women ('Yac champs) hosted  the NCAA's??

My only question is....how far will the magicman travel to support his Cards?  Hobart??   Hartwick???   Albertus Magnus????  The NCAA's will be an opportunity for all to see first hand that the 'Yac is BACK! Can you say a "Sweet 16" SUNYAC matchup??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 02, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
Like I said 5 months ago, the SUNYAC is a 3 bid league. No need for the Cards or the Knights to sweat. Heck, 1 of them should get a hosting opportunity along with the Golden Eagles.

You must admit, this is a game that the Cards lost and not 1 where the Golden Eagles won. Congrats to Brockport on winning the 'Yac championship. I'm curious how it would work if both the Cards men and women ('Yac champs) hosted  the NCAA's??

My only question is....how far will the magicman travel to support his Cards?  Hobart??   Hartwick???   Albertus Magnus????  The NCAA's will be an opportunity for all to see first hand that the 'Yac is BACK! Can you say a "Sweet 16" SUNYAC matchup??

Both the Cardinal men and women can't host on the same weekend. This year the men get first choice to host for the 1st weekend, the women get 1st choice for the 2nd weekend.

Pretty sure Brockport will host a pod that could include Hobart, Hartwick and Morrisonville. Plattsburgh may get lucky and also host a pod but I'm not counting on it. If they do they might send teams like Husson, Babson, and Gordon to Plattsburgh.

The Plattsburgh women were the #4 team in the East behind Ithaca, Vassar and Hartwick. I don't think they would get picked to host over those teams.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 03, 2014, 01:00:21 PM
Now that my prediction of 3 SUNYAC teams making the tourney has proven correct, I'm predicting that Plattsburgh and Brockport will both make it to the 3rd round -"Sweet 16". And that Geneseo will win at least their first game! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2014, 04:51:45 PM
The SUNYAC as expected has received 2 Pool C bids to the NCAA Tournament giving us a total of 3 teams in the field of 62. Plattsburgh State and Geneseo State were the only 2 teams from the East Region to get at large bids as they join League Champion Brockport State at the Dance.

As a bonus the NCAA has selected 2 of those teams to host the 1st and 2nd rounds.

Brockport 24-3, will host and meet the Morrisville State Mustangs. The Mustangs 19-8, won the automatic bid from the NEAC Conference. They finished the regular season in 2nd place but beat the top seed, Lancaster Bible, to win the tournament championship.

The other 2 teams in the Brockport pod will be the Hobart Statesmen against the Scranton Royals.  Hobart with a record of 21-6 won the automatic bid from the Liberty League. The Statemen won the regular season crown and then took the tournament championship with a double overtime win against Vassar College. Scranton, with a 24-3 record, also won the regular season and tournament championship of the Landmark Conference.     I had 3 of the 4 teams in this pod correct in my prediction.


Plattsburgh was also chosen to host a 4 team pod much to my delight. I thought they would, but didn't want to jinx them by stating how sure I was of that happening. With so many New England schools within the 500 mile travel limit we are in a good spot to be a host site. I said that Husson might be one of the teams traveling to Plattsburgh and predicted correctly that the 3 teams would all come from the New England area.

Plattsburgh, 22-5,  will take on the MIT Engineers, winners of the automatic bid from the NEWMAC Conference. After finishing in 4th place during the regular season the Engineers, 20-8, swept through the NEWMAC playoffs by beating the 5th seed, Emerson, the top seed, WPI, and the 3rd seed, Springfield. The NEWMAC conference is the only conference in the country that got 4 teams into the NCAA tournament. In addition to MIT... WPI, Babson, and Springfield all received at large bids to the dance.

The Eastern Connecticut Warriors will take on the Husson Eagles in the other game to be held at Plattsburgh. Eastern Connecticut, 22-6,  was the regular season champions of the Little East Conference but were upset by Rhode Island College in the tournament championship. Husson makes a return visit to Plattsburgh, having lost in a first round game to Plattsburgh State last year. The Eagles are 26-2 and won the automatic bid from the North Atlantic Conference. They were the regular season and tournament champions.

Geneseo 21-6, was given an at large bid and the Knights will travel to Wooster College in Ohio to take on the Dickinson Red Devils. Dickinson with a 21-6 record won the regular season crown in the Centennial Conference but was upset in the tournament championship game by the Johns Hopkins Blue Jays.  Host Wooster will take on St Vincent in the other game in that pod.

A tip of the cap to my man, Bengalsrule, who said at the beginning of the season and several times since, that the SUNYAC would get 3 teams into the NCAA Tournament. 8-)  I do believe he thought it was going to be Brockport, Plattsburgh, and Buffalo State though ;). As Meatloaf once said...Two outta three ain't bad. ;D

After the selection program was over for the men I waited patiently until 2:30 PM to see the Women's selection program and find out where the Plattsburgh State women would be off to. Imagine my surprise when I heard the announcer say they would be taking on Roger Williams at Bowdoin College. I immediately called Plattsburgh State Men's Coach, Tom Curle to ask him if he knew where the Plattsburgh women were going. He said he hadn't heard yet. I informed him that they would be going to Bowdoin and he couldn't believe it. His daughter Marle is a freshman on the Bowdoin Women's team and has started 24 of the team's 26 games. Bowdoin plays Castleton State in the first round and there is a good chance that Plattsburgh State could meet Bowdoin in the 2nd round. I'd love to see who the Coach will be cheering for in that game. ;D           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 03, 2014, 05:33:07 PM
hmmm,  gonna be an interesting potential matchup in the Womans field in Bowdoin if both SUNY Plattsburgh and Bowdoin win their first games.  Marle Curle (daughter of Tom Curle - coach at Plattsburgh) plays a significant role on the Bowdoin squad.   I remember cheering with the team bus driver,Mrs, Curle and Marle at St John Fisher when Anthony Williams hit the "buzzard" beater to shut up the University of Rochester loud mouths. 

http://athletics.bowdoin.edu/sports/wbkb/2013-14/bios/curle_marle_fc5v
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 03, 2014, 05:52:29 PM
I am glad to see that 3 YAC squads made it and that 2 are hosting. I agree with prediction that Bport and Pburg will advance. Everybody is 0-0 and I hope some YAC team, preferably my Golden Eagles, can get to 6-0 and bring a Championship home and some REAL respect for the conference. Good luck to all!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 04, 2014, 07:26:00 AM
Its great to see 3 SUNYAC schools make the tournament with 2 hosting.  Just goes to show that at the end of the day the people in charge got it right.  Or maybe it was the posts on this boards that got us the credit which was do.  Now its time to play the games and show the world that we know how to play NCAA D3 basketball.  Also, that we know how to host the games with our top notch facilities in the great state of New York.  On a side note would really like to see the SUNYAC recruit SUNY Purchase into our conference.  If they are as good as advertised(they are also hosting the first round) it can only help the SOS which seems to be an important part of the selection process.  Anyways I will only be cheering for SUNY schools.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2014, 11:18:26 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll came out last night and Brockport State has moved back up the ladder jumping 5 spots to #11 with 333 points. Last week they were #16 with 199 points. The #11 spot is the highest that the team has been ranked all season.

Plattsburgh State who lost in the Championship game of the SUNYAC tournament to Brockport by a 57-56 score moved from #30 to #29 and received 35 points in the Others Receiving Votes category. Last week they were #30 and had 20 points.

Geneseo State lost all the love they had after losing in the YAC semifinals. Last week they had 17 points this week they were down to a single point.

The Massey Ratings were just updated after the weekend's playoff games.

Brockport checks in with a #7 ranking and a SOS of 45.

Plattsburgh is ranked in the #11 spot with a SOS of 32.

Geneseo is  listed at #31 with an SOS of  71.

Pretty good stuff for the 3 SUNYAC leaders. 8-)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2014, 11:41:19 AM
The SUNYAC All Conference awards were announced 30 minutes ago and there were few surprises among those honored. I told a certain Bengals supporter the other day who would win the top honors and who would be on the first team. I managed to get them all correct. It's pretty sad that the SUNYAC press release can't spell Brandon Caruthers name correctly. I'll try and email them to correct it.

Congratulations to all the players and Coach Dunne on a great year.  There is at least another 15-20 players who didn't make this list who had outstanding seasons as well.

Here's the complete press release from the SUNYAC website:   


The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) is proud to announce this year's Men's Basketball Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Coach of the Year, and All-Conference teams for the 2013-14 season. These awards were voted on by the men's basketball conference coaches.

John Ivy was named the Player of the Year for this season even though he was injured with two games left in the regular season.  John Ivy is a senior guard who helped the Brockport Eagles finish first in the Conference with a record of 24-3 overall and 16-2 in the conference. Up until the injury Ivy was the leading scorer of the SUNYAC conference averaging 22.2 points per game. Ivy also shot 46.6% from the field, and 87.8% from the free throw line. Ivy will be graduating in the spring with a degree in Sports Management.

SUNY Oneonta Red Dragon freshman Mikey McElroy was awarded Rookie of the Year after a great season. McElroy Played in 25 games and started all 25 as he averaged 16.3 points per game. He also had 24 steals, 131 rebounds, and 57 assists.  McElroy is studying Criminal Justice at Oneonta.

Greg Dunne of Brockport was awarded Coach of the Year for the 2013-14 season. He helped lead the Brockport Golden Eagles win the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) tournament for the eighth time in the school's history. This is their first championship since the 2008-09 season as they made an unbelievable come from behind victory over SUNY Plattsburgh 57-56. The Golden Eagles came back from twelve points down with only 15:38 remaining in the second half. The win in the championship solidified an automatic bid to the NCAA Division III Tournament where Brockport will be able to host the first and second round of the tournament because of their success this season. Dunne is in his seventh season as Head Coach for Brockport and has made the SUNYAC Tournament all seven seasons. This is Dunne's second championship he has won with Brockport and will hope to continue that trend for years to come.


2013-14 Men's Basketball All-Conference Teams (PDF)


First Team       
Name School Position Year Height Weight Hometown
John Ivy Brockport G Sr. 6--1 185 Rochester, NY
Justin Mitchell Buffalo State F Sr. 6--5 200 Buffalo, NY
Kevin McMahon Cortland F/C Sr. 6--6 210 Hoosick Falls, NY
Gordon Lyons Geneseo F Jr. 6--5 205 Amherst, NY
Daniel Ross Oswego G/F Sr. 6--2 210 Syracuse, NY
       
Second Team       
Name School Position Year Height Weight Hometown
Brandon Caruthers Brockport G Sr. 5--9 165 Rochester, NY  *Edit...SUNYAC fixed the spelling after they got my Email. Yay! 8-)
Zach Mager Oneonta G Jr. 6--2 N/A New City, NY
Shavar Fields Plattsburgh F Sr. 6--6 205 Albany, NY
Chris Manning Plattsburgh G Sr. 6--0 185 Baldwin, NY
John Perez Plattsburgh G Sr. 6--3 190 Haverstraw, NY
       
Thrid Team       
Name School Position Year Height Weight Hometown
Tyrone Clark Fredonia  G/F Sr. 6--4 170 Elmira, NY
Connor Fedge Geneseo F Jr. 6--5 205 Amherst, NY
Mikey McElroy Oneonta F So. 6--3 N/A Saratoga Springs, NY
Brian Sortino Oswego  G Fr. 6--2 170 Fairport, NY
Shamoy McIntosh Plattsburgh G Jr. 6--2 180 Floral Park, NY
       
Player of the Year John Ivy Brockport   
Rookie of the Year Mikey McElroy  Oneonta     
Coach of the Year Greg Dunne    Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2014, 11:53:22 AM
The final SUNYAC Player of the Week award was announced today and Brockport's Brandon Caruthers was the recipient of the honor. Brandon was the MVP of the SUNYAC tournament over the weekend so it's not a surprise that he grabbed the final POTW award. Not having his high school teammate, John Ivy, in the Brockport backcourt with him as he has for the past two years has put even more accountability on Brandon's shoulders. Congratulations to him for leading the team to the Championship. Here's the writup from the SUNYAC website. At least they spelled his name correctly in this release. ;D



Brandon Caruthers, Brockport
Rochester, NY / East

Brandon Caruthers helped lead his team to an amazing 57-56 come from behind victory over Plattsburgh in the SUNYAC Championship game. Caruthers hit a free throw with two seconds remaining to give Brockport its first lead and the eventual win. He led the team with 16 points. On Friday, Caruthers was key in a second half run that helped the Golden Eagles break away from Oswego for a semi-final win. For his relentless hard work during the tournament, Caruthers was named the SUNYAC Tournament MVP.



 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
It was nice to see 4 of my Plattsburgh State Cardinals recognized on the All Conference teams. When discussing these awards last week with Coach Curle we both agreed that none of the Cardinals would make the 1st team, even though we thought that some of them should. None of our players had the big scoring numbers that the  players on he 1st team had. Instead we had so much balance on the team that it was hard to pick our outstanding player. Nine different Cardinal players led the team in scoring, during a game, this season. That is an amazing statistic and one that you'll be hard pressed to find at any level of basketball. Many teams don't even have 9 guys hit the scoring column in a game.

So my Cardinals didn't get any on the first team but they had twice as many players as any other team on the All Conference list. Congratulations to John Perez, Chris Manning, Shamoy McIntosh and Shavar Fields for a great year. You were all First Teamers in my book. 8-) The enjoyment I received watching you four and all the Cardinal players this year helped get me through this long, cold, nasty winter. Hopefully there is a few more enjoyable days as the NCAA's bring my guys back home for at least one more game. Really happy for John Perez who missed last year's Big Dance with an injury. Now, in his  senior year, he will finally get to play in the NCAA tournament and do so in front of the home crowd. Great way to cap a career.  GO CARDS!!       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on March 04, 2014, 04:20:59 PM
I really like Plattsburgh's chances getting out of their pod and into the Sweet 16. Brockport should have a tougher 2nd rd matchup with Scranton looming but Brockport has really been playing well lately; even without the services of John Ivy.  Geneseo has a tough one against Dickinson in the first round. If they can get by them, Wooster should be waiting for them. Much taller task for Geneseo than their SUNYAC counterparts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Hugenerd on March 04, 2014, 10:48:44 PM
Magic, how do you see the matchup with MIT? I admittedly don't know much about Plattsburgh, but a cursory review of stats reveals a heavy dependence on guard play.  In complete contrast, MIT only starts one player under 6'6" (starting lineup goes 5'11", 6'6", 6'8", 6'8", 6'8") and they have another 6'8" and two 6'10" guys who have seen regular action in the rotation recently (their other guard sub is 6'3").  That size has a lot to do with why MIT leads the country in scoring defense and is top 10 in rebounding margin.  They had some mid-season losses as the roster was a bit in flux, but the rotation seams to be locked down now and the team has been playing well recently.

Would you, or anyone else who watches D3 closely and has seen both teams (maybe one of the d3hoops guys), provide any insight?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 04, 2014, 10:48:44 PM
Magic, how do you see the matchup with MIT? I admittedly don't know much about Plattsburgh, but a cursory review of stats reveals a heavy dependence on guard play.  In complete contrast, MIT only starts one player under 6'6" (starting lineup goes 5'11", 6'6", 6'8", 6'8", 6'8") and they have another 6'8" and two 6'10" guys who have seen regular action in the rotation recently (their other guard sub is 6'3").  That size has a lot to do with why MIT leads the country in scoring defense and is top 10 in rebounding margin.  They had some mid-season losses as the roster was a bit in flux, but the rotation seams to be locked down now and the team has been playing well recently.

Would you, or anyone else who watches D3 closely and has seen both teams (maybe one of the d3hoops guys), provide any insight?

Hugenerd,

Welcome to my world,
I missed you on the boards this year. I read some of your recent posts on other boards and see that you've moved, I believe, and have some young one(s)? now, that take up much of the time you used to spend on D3. Understandable... the kids have to come first. 8-) Are you still doing research work ?

The MIT-Plattsburgh matchup should be the size of MIT against the speed and athleticism of Plattsburgh. The Cardinals have been at a height disadvantage for a good many of their games this year but that hasn't stopped them from winning the rebounding battle or at least not losing it by much. They have players that can get to the rim and also have an abundance of 3 point shooters. Nine different players have led the team in scoring so it's hard to concentrate on any particular player or players. The team is comprised of unselfish guys who don't care who scores and they work hard getting the ball to the guy who's hot that night. Plattsburgh can score inside and has done so effectively. One of our guards is really a forward and usually jumps center. Another forward/guard only 6'2" can leap out of the building and I guarantee you he will out jump the big guys on MIT. :o 

The All Conference team was released today for the SUNYAC and of the 15 players on the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd teams the Cardinals had 4 players grab year end honors. No one from Plattsburgh made the 1st team because we didn't have a 20 ppg scorer Instead we had a bunch of 10 to 15 ppg scorers.  3 players made the 2nd team and 1 player made the 3rd team. The guy that made the 3rd team was the leading scorer on the team for most of the season until a knee injury slowed him down a bit over the past 6 games. No other SUNYAC team had more than 2 players make the All Conference selections.       

MIT seems to be heating up at the right time and their run through the NEWMAC playoffs was impressive. There was no way this team was going to the Dance unless they got the automatic bid and they obviously were up to the challenge.

I'm expecting a great game between two programs that have excelled in the past 8 years or so. It will be webcast with very good quality so you can watch it online from West Virginia and you won't miss much. The announcers will be professionals, not students, and the picture is as good as any I've seen. They've even had instant replay on occasion. If there is no link to the game on D3hoops front page or scoreboard, go to the Plattsburgh website using this link:

http://www.gocardinalsports.com/index.aspx?tab=basketball&path=mbball

The video link and live stats link will be right there on the page that comes up. It's already up there as I type this.  Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 05, 2014, 05:44:58 AM
No Bears on any of the all conference teams.  I guess 5 win season are the norm for the once mighty.  I thought about a decade ago when we returned to NCAA that great things would return to Maxcy Hall,  Oh how wrong I was.  We have won 32% of our games since the last run in the NCAA tournament.  With no season over 500 in any of those years.  We can't even find a player good enough to make an all conference team.  So So sad for the once mighty.  May our ship one day sail again until then I wish the rest of the SUNYAC much luck.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Hugenerd on March 05, 2014, 08:21:34 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
Hugenerd,

Welcome to my world,
I missed you on the boards this year. I read some of your recent posts on other boards and see that you've moved, I believe, and have some young one(s)? now, that take up much of the time you used to spend on D3. Understandable... the kids have to come first. 8-) Are you still doing research work ?

I actually moved about 2.5 years back and have had the young ones for a while (3 and 7), but the main thing that has changed is work load.  A lot more flexibility as a grad student and post doc at MIT. I work in R&D at a pharma company and am leading a group now, in addition to doing research myself, so it takes up a good deal of time.

Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
The MIT-Plattsburgh matchup should be the size of MIT against the speed and athleticism of Plattsburgh. The Cardinals have been at a height disadvantage for a good many of their games this year but that hasn't stopped them from winning the rebounding battle or at least not losing it by much. They have players that can get to the rim and also have an abundance of 3 point shooters. Nine different players have led the team in scoring so it's hard to concentrate on any particular player or players. The team is comprised of unselfish guys who don't care who scores and they work hard getting the ball to the guy who's hot that night. Plattsburgh can score inside and has done so effectively. One of our guards is really a forward and usually jumps center. Another forward/guard only 6'2" can leap out of the building and I guarantee you he will out jump the big guys on MIT. :o

Without seeing anyone on Plattsburgh play, I would agree with you on everyone except for Matt Redfield. He is averaging about a dunk a game, inlcuding a couple pretty emphatic dunks in the NEWMAC championship game. He may not look like it, but he can jump out of the gym, is 6'8" with long arms (he is also around the top 25 in the country in blocks).

Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2014, 01:27:18 AM
The All Conference team was released today for the SUNYAC and of the 15 players on the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd teams the Cardinals had 4 players grab year end honors. No one from Plattsburgh made the 1st team because we didn't have a 20 ppg scorer Instead we had a bunch of 10 to 15 ppg scorers.  3 players made the 2nd team and 1 player made the 3rd team. The guy that made the 3rd team was the leading scorer on the team for most of the season until a knee injury slowed him down a bit over the past 6 games. No other SUNYAC team had more than 2 players make the All Conference selections.       

MIT seems to be heating up at the right time and their run through the NEWMAC playoffs was impressive. There was no way this team was going to the Dance unless they got the automatic bid and they obviously were up to the challenge.

I'm expecting a great game between two programs that have excelled in the past 8 years or so. It will be webcast with very good quality so you can watch it online from West Virginia and you won't miss much. The announcers will be professionals, not students, and the picture is as good as any I've seen. They've even had instant replay on occasion. If there is no link to the game on D3hoops front page or scoreboard, go to the Plattsburgh website using this link:

http://www.gocardinalsports.com/index.aspx?tab=basketball&path=mbball

The video link and live stats link will be right there on the page that comes up. It's already up there as I type this.  Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Thanks for the information, looking forward to (hopefully) watching the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 05, 2014, 09:12:15 AM
Quote from: scooterman on March 03, 2014, 05:52:29 PM
I am glad to see that 3 YAC squads made it and that 2 are hosting. I agree with prediction that Bport and Pburg will advance. Everybody is 0-0 and I hope some YAC team, preferably my Golden Eagles, can get to 6-0 and bring a Championship home and some REAL respect for the conference. Good luck to all!!!

With all due respect, I would suggest that the SUNYAC which is probably 1 of 6, or less  conferences,  with at least 3 teams in the NCAA's (47 conferences nation wide), has gotten some real respect from those around the country who know this business inside and out. Many of us early on, who keep up with this stuff,  felt that the 'Yac was worthy of 3 or more bids, and the NCAA has just confirmed that. I would suggest that any 'Yac team that advances in the tourney affords the SUNYAC more respect as the tourney goes on. To have anyone of the 3 win it all would definitly add to our reputation. But I sincerely feel that, with 3 bids, we already have earned some REAL RESPECT! ;)

oh and yes...

The YAC is BACK!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
Went up to the college early today as the NCAA tickets went on sale for Friday's and Saturday's games. Waltzed into the college center and asked for tickets for Friday's game. Asked when I could buy tickets for Saturday's game since the Plattsburgh website said they weren't  going to go on sale until Saturday. (I don't always believe what I read) They asked me if I wanted tickets for both days. I said I do indeed, can I buy them for both days right now. They said yes I could, but there are no refunds. I said why would I want a refund? They said well your team might not win on Friday and then they won't be in the game on Saturday, so you may not want to go watch two other teams play. I said I'll take the chance my Cardinals will win and even if they don't I'm still going to watch the game on Saturday.

So I got my tickets. Apparently everyone else was waiting for the magicman to walk through the door and get his tickets. There are 1200 tickets on sale for each day and they are, of course, numbered. The number on my tickets for each day...#1. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 05, 2014, 08:07:06 PM
Do feel Bad for Potsdam Senior Rob Duquette.  Came back from two serious injuries to finish 12th in scoring 6th in rebounding, 4th in FG%, Top 20 in FT% playing on a bum leg all year.

8 of ten teams get reps, no love for Bears or NP Hawks.

Good Luck to all three SUNYAC teams this weekend.  Hopefully one of them will bring home the hardware, that was last won by the '85-86 Bears!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2014, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
There are 1200 tickets on sale for each day and they are, of course, numbered. The number on my tickets for each day...#1. ;D   

Ladies and gents. Please, by a show of hands, how many are surprised by this?

Ill venture to say that the " happy as a pea in a pod" Magicman was the first person NATIONWIDE to purchase tickets for both days!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
Ps. I'm happy for you dude! You deserve it!

Oh and yea.....

The YAC is BACK!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on March 06, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
Ps. I'm happy for you dude! You deserve it!

Oh and yea.....

The YAC is BACK!!

The first aspect of the conference being "back" is set with getting 2 at-large bids. Now, the SUNYAC has to win a few games to earn the respect it should be getting. I think if Brockport can do well even without the services of John Ivy, that can really speak volumes to the level of play in the conference. Im expecting Plattsburgh to get to the sweet 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 06, 2014, 05:08:12 PM
Magicman....best of luck in the games ahead.  Noticed that there are a number of teams with the mascot...Cardinals.  Have to be careful if I post Go Cardinals.....oh what the heck....Go Cardinals! :)   Applie alsoto the WBB team that goes to Maine, I see.   Will not ask the "Elephant in the room" question wrt the Cardinals WBB team ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Denny McKinney on March 06, 2014, 07:09:06 PM
Hey Folks. We have question up in the SLIAC / Midwest room looking for a eastern poster.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2014, 07:57:13 PM
Quote from: Denny McKinney on March 06, 2014, 07:09:06 PM
Hey Folks. We have question up in the SLIAC / Midwest room looking for a eastern poster.

I just went there ( Midwest/SLIAC) and can't really see something unique to SUNYAC. Williams Amherst etc question might be better placed in the northeast or p m magican or repost the question here. We (sunyac boards) have, arguably, the most knowledgeable person in D 3!  Lose the question and he will "magically" appear!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2014, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: amh63 on March 06, 2014, 05:08:12 PM
Magicman....best of luck in the games ahead.  Noticed that there are a number of teams with the mascot...Cardinals.  Have to be careful if I post Go Cardinals.....oh what the heck....Go Cardinals! :)   Applie alsoto the WBB team that goes to Maine, I see.   Will not ask the "Elephant in the room" question wrt the Cardinals WBB team ;D

Thanks amh63 but I noticed on the NEWMAC board you were rooting for MIT? I posed a question for you there but see you haven't bothered to respond. ???

I'm rooting for Amherst as well since I drafted Connor Green for my Fantasy Team and I'd like a rematch of last year's contest.


With regard to the Elephant in the Room question. I'm assuming you mean Coach Curle and his daughter.

If his daughter's team, Bowdoin, meets the Plattsburgh State Women's team in the 2nd round, I'm sure that the Plattsburgh State men's coach will root for her to have a well played game. If Bowdoin Women should win that game then he's happy his daughter gets to play another game in the NCAA tournament. If the Plattsburgh Women win the game then he's happy his school gets to play another game in the NCAA tournament. That's what you call a WIN-WIN situation. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Denny McKinney on March 06, 2014, 08:49:15 PM
Quote from: Denny McKinney on Today at 03:23:02 pm
Hopefan? I have been asking very curiosly how going to the NCAA Tourament back east Was looked at and handled? Yjak info was great cause I get RMC games on my collegesportstv.com account. I'll discuss that later. So we have a Midwest / West feel. I shared the Southern Hospitality. We even got TN. Covered. I 'll open it up Amherst, Williams and uhhh Cinderela of your choice? What is the overall feel of the environment handled when you go to the Dance? I'm in basketball euphoria on multi levels and I can't know how it feels to be a back East program this time off year. "You will complete me..."  and get a + plus + Ik  ;D# WhynotWebster?

One paragraph from Pat Coleman would be Sweeet!

There it's is Magicman. ThanksModify message

There you go Bengalsrule, Thanks for the response!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 07, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
Magicman... It's after 12 noon. I assume that you are getting dressed for the game?  I imagine your prognostications should be appearing soon?? Dont want you to be late for the warmups!

Good l7uck old due. I'll be pulling for your cards....and the Golden Eagles and the Knights! I'm predicting double digit wins for all 3 because...........

The Yac is back !!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 07, 2014, 02:22:58 PM
Magicman....just read your post on the NEWMAC board.  Will best plead innocent due to ignorance on the matter.  Never expected MIT would get to the dance....then be put into your bracket.  Also did not expect Amherst to get a bye and the question of hosting after the second round is still clouded by the WBB team at Amherst wrt to NCAA  rules.  Enough excuses...basically did not want to hurt your feelings if our teams do meet. :)  Did you notice that Amherst meets York(NY) on Saturday....they are also called the Cardinals!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2014, 03:08:49 PM
First Round Friday has arrived. Time to look deep inside my crystal ball to see what might happen in today's action.

The Brockport Regional

Hobart Statesmen  21-6   vs  #21 Scranton Royals  24-3    5:30 PM

The Statesmen are in the NCAA tournament for the 3rd year in a row. They are coming in with a 21-6 record and it is the 4th straight year that they have won 21 or more games. They won the regular season crown and the tournament championship of the Liberty League for the 2nd year in a row. Last year they lost in the 1st round to Rhode Island College in overtime and 2 years ago they lost in the 2nd round to Cabrini in overtime. That was the year Cabrini almost won the National Championship, losing to Whitewater in the final game 63-60. So Hobart is 1-2 in their last 3 games at the Big Dance and they haven't had a bad game in the 3 outings.

Scranton is making their 3rd trip to the NCAA Tournament in the last 6 years. The Royals have a 3-3 record to show for their playoff appearances. They won both the regular season crown and the tournament championship of the Landmark Conference and this is the 10th year in a row that the Royals have won between 18 and 24 games. In 2 of their recent NCAA tournaments Scranton lost in the first round but in the 2011-12 season they won 3 games, advancing to the Elite Eight where they ran into the same Cabrini team that defeated Hobart in overtime. They lost to the Cavaliers in that game 78-58. Clearly Hobart was the better team in 2011-12 than the Royals. But that was then and this is now. Scranton comes into this game on a 14 game winning streak and has risen to #21 in the D3hoops Poll. The Royals are picked by D3 hoops to be the surprise team in this quadrant and believe they will come away as the winner of this regional. The oddsmakers have listed the Royals as a 6 point favorite in this game and I think they will come away with a win in a closely contested game. Neither team is very deep and the starters will play a lot of minutes. If one team gets in foul trouble that could be enough to sway this contest. I think the final will be Scranton 77 Hobart 70.


Morrisville State Mustangs  19-8  vs   #11 Brockport State Golden Eagles  24-3   Approx. 7:30

The Mustangs return to the NCAA tournament for the 3rd year in a row as the representative of the North Eastern Athletic Conference. Mo State came in 2nd during the regular season and won the automatic bid when they defeated top seed Lancaster Bible in the championship game of their tournament. Two years ago the Mustangs lost in the 1st round to Middlebury by a 75-49 score, but last year won 2 games against Ramapo and Rhode Island College, to advance to the Sweet 16, where they were defeated by St Mary's 84-66. Still, it was a banner year for the Mustangs and they'd like to show that last year was no fluke.

Brockport is  returning to the Big Dance for the first time since the 2008-09 season. That was the year the Golden Eagles stunned the SUNYAC by capturing the automatic NCAA bid by winning the conference tournament as the 8th seed. They lost a close game to Carnegie Mellon 75-70 in the 1st round and will be looking to advance a little further this time around. Brockport captured both the regular season title and the conference tournament crown to win the automatic bid to the NCAA's. The huge 19 point comeback they had against Plattsburgh in the championship game last weekend has provided the team with a huge confidence builder, which was sorely needed, after the loss of All American John Ivy to a season ending injury several weeks ago. Brockport is a deep team, however, and they have responded with 4 straight wins since they lost their star. It would appear that the "win one for John" story may have some legs. The most recent D3 hoops Top 25 poll has the Golden Eagles at their highest placement of the season putting them in the #11 spot. Yet a front page article yesterday,  previewing the tournament, says Brockport, because of the loss of Ivy, will be the biggest disappointment in the top right quadrant of the bracket. The articles states that: "Without John Ivy, Brockport goes from a Sweet 16 or even Elite Eight favorite to a team that's just better than ordinary." On the surface that may be a fair assessment, but I think the emergence of several other players on the team has helped to compensate for John Ivy's loss to some degree. Will it be enough to get the Golden Eagles to a 2nd weekend of the tournament? We'll find out in the course of the next 2 days. Senior point guard Brandon Caruthers, the MVP of the SUNYAC tournament, will once again need to provide the leadership necessary, while freshmen Clifton Lyerly and Aaron White will have to put points on the board. Big man Patrick Coyle will be counted on more than ever and the sharpshooting of Matt Lee along with Bobby Bell has to help out as well.   

The oddsmakers have installed Brockport as a huge favorite in this game expecting them to win by a 24 point margin. That point spread doesn't take Ivy's absence into consideration though and I don't think the Mustangs will lose by that many points. But I do think that their hopes for springing more upsets at the Dance this year will come to an early end and Brockport will win this game by a score of  81-67.                   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 07, 2014, 04:47:17 PM
....And Geneseo??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2014, 05:25:34 PM
First Round Friday  Continues with the 2nd host site.

The Plattsburgh Regional

Husson Eagles 26-2  vs  Eastern Connecticut Warriors 22-6  5:30 PM

Husson is getting quite familiar with the Plattsburgh area as the Eagles make a return visit to Memorial Hall for the first round of the NCAA tournament. Last year they were sent here to play a game against Plattsburgh with the winner advancing to take on eventual National Champion Amherst. Plattsburgh won that game 84-63 over the Eagles but this year's team has had one of the best years in school history and will be looking to get an opening round win. The Eagles were also in the tournament in 2010-11 losing to Williams in the first round. Husson won the regular season and tournament championship from the North Atlantic Conference to claim their ticket to the Dance. According to my sources they were once again matched up against Plattsburgh until someone in the room realized that they played Plattsburgh last year and at the last minute they switched the opponent for the Eagles to Eastern Connecticut.

The Warriors come into the NCAA's with an at large bid after losing to Rhode Island in the championship game of the Little East Tournament. They did win the regular season title and the Warriors were ranked in the Top 25 at various times throughout the year. They were last in the NCAA tournament in 2011-12 and won 2 games to advance to the Sweet 16. That was the year they played the Chad Burridge led, Oswego State team, and won that classic double overtime game, 70-69, on a last second 3 pointer by Brian Salzillo who is a senior on this year's Warrior team. Eastern lost to Cabrini in the Sweet 16 that year.

The oddsmakers have indicated that despite the difference between the strength of these two conferences (the North Atlantic Conference comes in dead last in Massey's ratings) this game will be a fairly close contest and has made Eastern Connecticut a 6 point choice. I think Husson could pull off the upset here and it wouldn't be a big surprise but I also believe the Warriors will have too much firepower for the Eagles to overcome. Husson does own a win over Little East team Keene State 81-76. The Warriors defeated Keene State twice during the regular season but only by a 72-69 score the 2nd time they met. I look for a decent game but see the final as an Eastern Connecticut win by an 83-75 margin.


MIT Engineers  20-8  at Plattsburgh State Cardinals  22-5   Approx.  7:30 PM

It's safe to say that the Engineers are quite happy to receive an invitation to the dance. I should correct that statement...they didn't receive an invitation they went out an stole one. The Engineers were in 4th place in the NEWMAC standings at the end of the regular season with an 8-6 conference record. They had to win a play in game to get to the semifinals and then beat the  #1 seed, WPI, and the #3 seed, Springfield College, to grab the automatic bid and go dancing. This turn of events gave the NEWMAC a 4 team entry into the NCAA tournament, the most of any conference in the country. WPI, Babson, and Springfield all received at large bids to the tournament much to the chagrin of some schools that got left out.

The Engineers are making their 6th straight appearance in the NCAA tournament having lost in the first round to St Mary's last year. It was the 2011-12 season, however, when MIT had the best season in school history where they made a run that took them all the way to the Final Four where they finally lost to eventual champion Whitewater. They ended that year with a 29-2 record. Over the past 5  years the Engineers have racked up a 6-5 record in the NCAA tournament.

They are coming in on a roll once again and this team will present the Cardinals with a lot of problems with the height they will put on the court. Especially with Plattsburgh missing their biggest player and leading scorer 6'6" Shavar Fields. The NCAA didn't do the Cardinals any favors by matching them up with MIT.

Plattsburgh is dancing for the 2nd straight year having received an at large bid as the runner up in the SUNYAC regular season and conference tournament. The team was very disappointed they didn't get it done last weekend against Brockport especially after leading the Golden Eagles by 19 points early in the 2nd half. And the way the game ended left a sour taste in everybody's mouth, I'm sure. Even the winners would have preferred to win it with a last second jumper as opposed to a free throw from a technical foul. The Plattsburgh coach reminded his players that from disappointment can come good things. Getting a bid to the tournament and the opportunity to host a regional will hopefully lead to those goals. The Cardinals are dancing for the 6th time in the past 9 years. That's more than any other team in the East Region. Their overall record at the dance during that time is 3-5 and they will be looking to make some noise again this year. The lineup will be bolstered by one of the 2 missing players from last weekend as Shamoy McIntosh, who was the leading scorer for Plattsburgh for most of the season, but is now 2nd on the team with a 12.8 ppg average, is back for tonight's contest.

The oddsmakers had made the Cardinals a heavy (in my opinion) 13 point favorite. This game will feature the Cardinals athleticism and speed against the size and rebounding advantage of the Engineers. MIT will start a lineup of 6'8". 6'8", 6'8", 6'6", and 5'11".  MIT is usually involved in games in the 60's and low 70's as they use a lot of clock. I think my Cardinals will pull off a win here but I'll be surprised if the margin is as large as the oddsmakers think it is. I see this one as a 73-66 Cardinal win.     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2014, 05:35:31 PM
I'm off to the Plattsburgh Regional  and have run out of time to do any more long winded predictions so Geneseo gets the short end of my shtick today.

I will however predict that the Knights will be on the long end of a hard fought game, as they take on the Dickinson Red Devils down in Wooster Ohio. Final score should be something like Geneseo 76 Dickinson 74.  Go Knights


I also think Hartwick will be a tough luck loser to SUNY-Purchase  by an 85-70 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on March 07, 2014, 09:20:10 PM
m-man, your Cards are cruising.  happy for you.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 07, 2014, 09:38:42 PM
WTF BRockport - Overtime    :o

Nice to see full gyms at both Plattsburgh and Brockport. 

Brockport announcers are so bad....   :'(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
Morrisville State pulls off the upset of Brockport State 83-80 in triple overtime.  The Mustangs are at it again. Tough loss for the Golden Eagles who had an 18 point halftime lead and let it slip away.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2014, 10:17:55 PM
Just back from the Plattsburgh State game where my Cardinals defeated MIT by a 76-53 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on March 07, 2014, 10:38:21 PM
Have they set a time for the game yet tomorrow Magic??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Cards7580 on March 07, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: 7express on March 07, 2014, 10:38:21 PM
Have they set a time for the game yet tomorrow Magic??

SUNY Plattsburgh web-site has start time 7:00pm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2014, 10:55:40 PM
A recap of the East Region scores.


Plattsburgh State 76  MIT 53.
I had this one 73-66 in favor of the Cardinals. Just missed with the Plattsburgh total but MIT couldn't hold up their end of the bargain.


Eastern Connecticut 81  Husson 75
I was almost perfect with this score as I had Eastern winning it 83-75.



Hobart 94   Scranton 81
I had  this one as a victory by the Royals 77-70. Happy I got it wrong. The Statesmen deserve an NCAA win after the tough overtime losses they've had in recent memory

Morrisville State 83   Brockport 80
I had the Golden Eagles winning this one by an 81-67 margin and at halftime it looked like that prediction was well on its way to coming true as Brockport led at the break 36-18. Last week the Golden Eagles were the recipients of a 19 point comeback to win the automatic NCAA bid. This week they are the team that gave up the big lead and had their outstanding season come to an end. Have to hand it to the Moville Mustangs for pulling off another shocker.

Dickinson 83  Geneseo 76
I had the Knights winning this game by a 76-74 score. I got the Geneseo part right on the button but Dickinson used a slew of 3 pointers to win this game. Tied at 54 with 9:32 left in the game, Dickinson hit 5 straight 3 pointers in a 15-4 run, to jump in front by a 69-58 margin. The Knights got it back to 74-71 and 77-73 but couldn't get it any closer. The Red Devils had 10 triples in the game. Tough loss for the Knights but still an outstanding season.


SUNY-Purchase 97   Hartwick 71
I had this one 85-70 in favor of Purchase.  Again I had one side almost perfect but Purchase is guilty of piling on.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 08, 2014, 05:00:39 AM
Interesting  2 SUNYAC Schools lose and 2 SUNY Schools who play outside of the SUNYAC win leaving Plattsburgh as our only hope.  It looks like the same questions will once again come around.  The SUNYAC can't get it done come tournament time.  Why should the SUNYAC have multiple teams in the tournament.  You can say what you want about Morrisville and their conference.  At the end of the day they beat our best team on their court,  Purchase is an Arts school that blew away an Empire 8 school. On yea both of these schools beat Brockport this year.  By the way Purchase plays is a gym built with NBA dollars.  The Knicks used it for years for their practices.  Maybe the folks at D3 are correct the east just isn't that strong.  I do have an issue with the brackets.  Why are the number 13 and 15 ranked teams playing each other in the second round  Purchase vs. Albert Magnus.  This should be a great game running and gunning with lots of scoring.  I have a feeling that the winner of the game will make a huge run into the tournament.  Once again good luck to Plattsburgh you are our only hope.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2014, 08:24:55 AM
Plattsburgh State 76  MIT 53

Cardinals took control of this game midway through the first half when they broke away from an 11-11 tie game with a 15-5 burst that opened up a double digit 26-16 lead. Ezra Hodgson who was the star of tonight's game canned a jumper and Xavier Thomas followed with a pair of free throws. Hodgson followed with another jumper but this was from behind the arc, and McIntosh followed that with a jumper of his own that resulted in another 3 points when he was fouled on the play. That made it 21-11 with the 10 straight points but MIT cut into the lead with 5 unanswered points of their own. Unanswered for only as long as it took Mike Mitchell to take an inbounds pass and leisurely walk the ball up the floor. When the MIT player guarding him backed off as Mike brought the ball in the frontcourt, Mike made him pay by swishing a bomb and on the Cards' next possession Hodgson was fouled and his two free throws made it a 10 point lead once again. MIT cut it back to 8 on their possession but the Cardinals' point guard, Chris Manning, was left unattended and Chris made them pay as he drained another Cardinal triple. Seconds later Alan Siergiej was the reciepient of a Manning pass after Chris stole the ball and fed the big guy for a layup. The lead was up to 13 which was the largest of the period with 3:23 left to play. The Engineers did get a nice basket from Dennis Levene right at the buzzer to cut the margin to 10 points, 33-23 at the break.

The second half started pretty much like the first half ended with Ezra Hodgson burying another 3 pointer and Shamoy McIntosh hitting one on the Cardinals' next trip down the floor. Back and forth action continued as MIT countered with a 3 point play by 6'8" big man Andrew Acker. The Engineers also got a pair of inside moves by another 6'8" big guy, Matt Redfield, and  6'6" forward Justin Pedley. Plattsburgh countered those with a pair of layups from their small forward, John Perez and the score was still a 13 point double digit lead at 43-30. Acker got loose inside for 2 more layups but Plattsburgh's MacIntosh buried another threeball and followed that up with an inside move of his own and the lead was 14 going on 17 as Hodgson hit another long range bomb. The closest the Engineers got after that was 14 points and Hodgson, with the Memorial Hall crowd chanting his name in unison ....Ezra, Ezra, Ezra,...drained back to back 3 pointers to boost the lead to 67-46 and it was time to warm up the bus, which the Plattsburgh student section was fervently telling the MIT bus driver to do. The lead grew to 26 points before a 3 pointer by MIT cut it to the final of 76-53.   

Plattsburgh State played a great defensive game against the bigs from MIT. They really pressured whichever one got the pass inside with solid double teams all night long. When their bigs got the ball down low many times they ended up kicking it back out to the perimeter because the path to the basket was blocked. The Cards got outrebounded by a 37-31 margin, but it didn't help that the Cardinals best rebounder, John Perez, was saddled with fouls early in both halves. He only saw 5 minutes of action in the 1st half and only got 5 more minutes in the 2nd half. He went to the bench with 15 minutes left in the 2nd half when he picked up 2 quick fouls to give him 4 at that point. He re-entered the game with under 4 minutes to go and picked up his 5th foul seconds later. I don't think the refs liked him because they certainly had no business calling the fouls on JP that they did. Sadly, this was the first NCAA game of his stellar career (he was out last year with an injury) and the zebras took it away from him. The good news is that John should be well rested for tomorrow's encounter with Eastern Connecticut.

As I mentioned up above, the MVP of tonight's game was clearly Ezra Hodgson. Ezra had a game high 27 points tonight which is also a new career high for the junior forward. He was stroking the ball well tonight, as he usually does, but the Card's point guards Chris Manning and Mike Mitchell kept looking for Ezra and finding him. Ezra didn't let them down as he made 9 of 16 shots from the field, including 6x9 from behind the arc. So if we do some simple arithmetic we see that Ezra was only 3x7 inside the arc. Ezra...some advice,,,back up when you're not behind the 3 point line. ;D In addition to his 27 points Ezra had 7 rebounds, 2 steals, and a block in 37 minutes of court time.

Shamoy McIntosh returned to the lineup after missing the majority of the last regular season game and both the SUNYAC playoff games. The junior shooting guard picked right up where he left off as he scored 15 points (4x9 fg, 2x6 3's, 5x5 ft) and had 4 assists. He was also all over the court on defense and took a number of hits that had me holding my breath when he hit the floor. So afraid we were going to lose him with an injury again. Shamoy is still not 100% but we'll take what we can get at this point from one of our top offensive threats.   

Alan Siergiej came off the bench and gave the Cardinals a big lift when John Perez got in foul trouble. The big guy had 10 points (4x6 fg, 2x4 ft) and 4 rebounds in 28 minutes plus he played excellent defense on the MIT bigs without getting a single personal foul. The 28 minutes represented a career high at Plattsburgh State.

John Perez only played 10 minutes but managed 8 points, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist. His workday was cut short by a crew of zebras who had trouble deciding what was and what wasn't a foul from one minute to the next. Guys knocked to the floor and undercut couldn't get a whistle yet if John breathed hard on the man he was guarding he got flagged for a foul. Some real strange calls in this game.

Chris Manning is only 6 feet tall but had as many rebounds as all but one of the behemoths from MIT. Chris grabbed 7 boards, had 4 points, 4 steals and 2 assists. I know he had more than 2 assists so I'm guessing the stat crew missed a few or didn't give him credit for a couple of passes that resulted in points.

Mike Mitchell only took 2 shots but they were both 3 pointers and they were both nothing but net. He also had 3 assists and 2 rebounds in 16 minutes of playing time.

Xavier Thomas added 4 points and 4 rebounds off the bench.

The Cardinals outshot the Engineers in all 3 areas as they were 24x56 from the field (42.9%) to 19x48 for MIT (39.6%). Plattsburgh was 11x39 from long distance (37.9%) while MIT was only 5x22 (22.7%). The Cardinals were 17x23 from the line (73.9%) to 10x16 for MIT (62.5%) The taller Engineers did win the battle of the boards 37-31 but that 6 rebound margin came in the 1st half when they had 22 rebounds to 14 for Plattsburgh. The Cardinals outrebounded MIT in the 2nd half 17-15.

One of the biggest statistics that was instrumental in the Cardinals' victory was that Plattsburgh only had 5 turnovers that led to 6 MIT points. The Engineers had 17 turnovers that led to 17 Plattsburgh points. The defensive pressure that the Cardinals applied throughout the game, gave the taller and slower Engineers problems that they had trouble handling.

The Engineers were led by Andrew Acker who had 14 points (6x9 fg,2x5 ft) and a game high 10 rebounds. Acker also had 5 assists and a block. Justin Pedley also had double figures for MIT as he scored 10 points (3x14 fg, 2x11 3's, 2x2ft) and had 3 rebounds. Dennis Levene had 7 points, 7 rebounds, and 2 assists. Tim Butala had 7 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists.

The Engineers season comes to an end with an overall record of 20-9 and a NEWMAC championship and by any measure a successful season.

Plattsburgh State improves to 23-5 and will meet Eastern Connecticut to see who will advance to the Sweet 16 next weekend. The Warriors were an 81-75 winner over Husson earlier on Friday. The game will start at 7:00 PM on Saturday evening.         
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 08, 2014, 09:58:19 AM
Congrats old dude.  I hope you are getting dressed for the game. Building opens up at 12 noon. Your seat awaits!

Go Cards!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
Eastern Connecticut Warriors 23-6  at  Plattsburgh State Cardinals  23-5      7:00 PM

The Warriors have a history against the SUNYAC and most of it is positive . Over the past 3 years they have played 4 games against teams in our conference and have went 3-1. They've beaten New Paltz  twice, once this year and once last year. In 2011-12 they beat  Oswego State in that famous NCAA 2nd round game that went to double overtime. The 70-69 win at Oswego occurred when Brian Salzillo hit a 3 pointer with just seconds left on the clock to send the Warriors on to the Sweet 16 and ended the Lakers season. Last year in a holiday tournament down in Florida they hooked up in a barnburner with Buffalo State that was won by the Bengals 89-85. This is, I believe, the first time the two schools have ever met.

The Warriors have a 3 pronged attack as they come at you with a trio of talented guards. Mike Garrow 17.7ppg, is a 6'4" senior guard who is also the 2nd leading rebounder on the team (7.7rpg). Garrow goes to hoop more than anyone on the team and because of that is their leading free throw shooter (155x189). He has over 100 more attempts than anyone else on the team and he also has one of the highest free throw percentages, making 82% of his attempts. He can also shoot the three if needed (27x87.  Brian Salzillo, a 6'0" senior guard, averages 17.0 ppg and is the top 3 point shooter on the Warriors. Salzillo has made 88 of 219 attempts from long range for a 40.2%. He also leads the team in steals with 29 and shoots 78.6% from the line. The third leading scorer is sophomore guard 5'10" Trachone Preston who averages 16.1 ppg, and 3.1 rpg. He leads the team with an even 100 assists, good for a 3.4 apg average and also likes to penetrate and get to the line where he knocks down his free throws at an 84% rate (73x87). He is the 2nd best 3 point shooter on the team (61x156, 39.1%).

Most of the bigs on the team are 6'4" or 6'5"  except for a freshman who is 6'11". He doesn't see a lot of action though and averages just 8 minutes a game.

The Warriors like the Cardinals will try and beat you with their speed and athleticism and have put together another outstanding campaign. they are a well coached team and will be a handful for Plattsburgh so I expect a closely contested game. The only 2 common opponents are New Paltz State and Keene State. Both teams handled the Hawks without a problem and Plattsburgh hammered Keene State in Plattsburgh. Eastern also blew out Keene State in one game but had a 72-69 scare the 2nd time they hooked up in Keene. 

Plattsburgh will be looking at a mirror image of itself in many ways and I think this game could very well come down to a three point shooting contest. The turnover battle will be huge as well. Eastern will have to improve in both of those areas today if they hope to come away with a win. Yesterday they were only 4x17 from long distance, an unusually poor effort, and had 15 turnovers. Plattsburgh was 11x29 from behind the arc and only had 5 giveaways in their game against MIT. I'd certainly like to see both teams repeat those numbers today. ;D

The oddsmakers have made the home team Cardinals a 9 point favorite but I think that's a bit too many. I think the Cardinals will come away with the win here but I see it more like an 81-77 final score.   



           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on March 08, 2014, 06:12:36 PM
I've got Plattsburgh 79-72, but at least we are both on the same page with the Cardinals winning.  May the best team win tonight!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 08, 2014, 09:14:09 PM
Magicman......read your post on the Little East board about meeting the ECSU  HBC's family.  Will point out that the HBC is an alum of Hamilton College....as is also the HBC of RIC.   Could he be a son of New York State? :)

Guess your Cardinals will be dropping by for a visit again. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2014, 09:42:32 PM
Final Score Plattsburgh State 70 Eastern Connecticut 60   Plattsburgh advances to the Sweet 16

The score doesn't indicate how close this game really was. With 6;30 left to play it was a 2 point Plattsburgh lead at 54-52 and anybody's game. Cards made some big plays down the stretch and came away with the win. Both teams played a strong defensive game which cut down on the scoring opportunities.

I'll have a full recap later on. Glad to see the Cardinals moving on to the Sweet 16.  Congratulations to Eastern Connecticut on another fine year. They have some good young players on their team and should be fine for the next few years. Especially impressed with freshman Hugh Lindo (20 rebounds and 10 points today). Also sophomore Kevin Leumene who came off the bench yesterday and today  with great games. He had 14 points and 7 boards today. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2014, 10:28:27 AM

Plattsburgh State Cardinals 70  Eastern Connecticut Warriors 60

An excellent game on Saturday in Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh between two well coached teams that were both quick and athletic, both played great defense and both left it all on the court as they were looking to advance to the Sweet 16.

Every game has an outstanding performance and the story of this game was the inspired play of Plattsburgh senior John Perez. Denied the opportunity to play in his first NCAA tournament last year when he was injured late in the regular season, JP was really looking forward to Friday's first round game against MIT. Unfortunately some rather strange calls by the men in stripes had John sitting out large portions of both halves of Friday's game. Expecting to play at least 30 minutes, if not more, he was limited to 10 minutes of court time and his disappointment was clearly evident. It was certainly not how he had envisioned his first NCAA game in a Cardinal uniform to turn out. I told him after the game that the good news was that he would be well rested for the Warriors since he took the night off.  He's normally a super nice guy, but today he became a monster as he scored 21 points and pulled down 15 rebounds to record yet another double-double and lead the Cardinals into the Sectionals next weekend.     

The first half was a closely contested affair that featured 4 ties and 8 lead changes. The largest lead occurred when the Warriors'  Kevin Leumene scored 5 straight points to break a 17-17 tie and put Eastern up 22-17 with 8:15 left in the period. Leumene had entered the game for the first time at the 12 minute mark and once again provided a spark off the bench. In Friday's contest he re-entered the game in the 2nd half and played a major role in reversing a deficit against Husson that enabled the Warriors to advance to the 2nd round. On Saturday with the score tied he nailed a 3 pointer and followed that with a drive to the hoop to give the Warriors that 5 point lead.

The Cardinals would respond with another inside move by John Perez, his 5th basket of the period, and on their next possession Mike Mitchell drove to the basket for the hoop and the harm to tie the score once again. The Cardinals would regain the lead 25-24 only to see Leumene have a deja vu moment, as he again scored 5 unanswered points with a 3-ball and a short jumper in the paint. He had scored 10 points and had been on the court for less than 9 minutes. A jumper by the Cardinal hero from Friday's game, Ezra Hodgson, narrowed the lead and Perez hit 1 of 2 from the line to make it 29-28 with 27 seconds on the clock. The Warriors set up for a final shot and after looking to make one from behind the arc by their 3 point specialists, were forced to change direction under fierce defensive pressure from Plattsburgh.  The Warriors' Trachone Preston tried to hoist one as the clock wound down and at the last second, literally, whipped a pass inside to Hugh Lindo who was left uncovered for a brief instant. Lindo got the shot off, then the buzzer went off and the Warriors trotted off the court with a 31-28 edge at the break. Lindo was a rebounding machine in the first half as the freshman had 14 rebounds and 8 points. Perez was the leader for the Cardinals as he had 11 points to 1 up the Warriors Leumene.

The Cardinals didn't waste any time tying the contest back up and it was obvious that the game plan was going to continue to work the ball inside to Perez. After Perez rebounded a Warrior missed field goal the Cards came down and quickly got him the ball. the result was an old fashioned 3 point play and that scenario would repeat itself a few minutes later when JP would do the same thing. Like two boxers going toe to toe, the teams would fight through 5 more ties and 5 more lead changes. Down 35-31 Perez would get his 2nd "And One" bucket of the half. The Warriors' Preston would score off a drive to make it 37-34 only to have the Cardinals' Eddie Correa bury a deep one to tie it up again with 15:43 to play. For the next 4 minutes neither team had more than a 2 point lead, when tied at 46, the Cardinals got another 3 pointer from Ezra Hodgson to take a lead they would never give up. There was 11:27 left in the game at that point and Eastern looking to tie it up came up empty on their next possession. Xavier Thomas got the rebound and when Plattsburgh got the ball down to their end it ended up going out of bounds off an Eastern Player. It seemed so insignificant at the time but it gave the Warrior's coaching staff an opportunity to call time out. Plattsburgh had to inbound the ball from the left side of their baseline and off a designed play that the Cardinals' Coach Curle set up during that time out a high lob pass was thrown to the rim by point guard Chris Manning. The pass was perfect, the recipient was the X-Man Thomas, who timed his leap, caught the alley and threw down the oop as he was fouled by Leumene. It brought the Memorial Hall crowd screaming to their feet and they rose again as Xavier made the free throw to complete the 3 point play. Just like that the Cardinals had the largest lead of the game and it looked like they were ready to roll, while the house was rockin.

Not so fast, said Leumene and Lindo, as the L&L boys made back to back buckets to close within 2 points. John Perez too the rescue with another inside move and then Shamoy McIntosh decided to make his presence felt. McIntosh was the Cardinals' leading scorer for most of the season until an injury slowed him down some over the past 3 weeks. He missed the conference tournament last weekend but returned to the lineup with 15 points in Friday's contest, basically his season's average before the injury. On Saturday he had been relatively quiet with only 3 points in the first half. Now with the game on the line it was time take the stage. Trachone Preston scored to once again bring Eastern within 2 points at 54-52. Plattsburgh called time out, McIntosh entered the game, and 20 seconds later he drained a 3 pointer with the defense right on him. The Warriors missed a layup, got the rebound and missed again and McIntosh was fouled at the other end, driving to the hoop. He made the free throws and after both teams misfired McIntosh swished another jumper to make it 61-52 with 3:51 left to play. The Computer had scored 7 unanswered points to open up the new largest lead of the night.

Eastern wasn't dead though and Preston buried a deep three to cut it to a 2 possession lead. Mike Mitchell was fouled and made 2 free throws but Mike Garrow scored, was fouled and his free throw cut the lead to 63-58 with 2:20 to go. McIntosh was fouled again and made the free throws again, but Garrow came right back with another short jumper to cut it to 65-60 with 1:46 left. Still plenty of time for the Warriors to pull out a win. I watched this club do just that to Oswego 2 years ago when Brian Salzillo made the 3 pointer in double OT to send the Lakers home for the season.

Chris Manning wasn't going to let that happen though, and was looking to erase some bad memories of a week ago. The fastest man on the floor took matters into his own hands and drove to the basket and scored to make it a 3 possession game with 1:10 left on the clock. And then for good measure Chris stole the ball as the Warriors were bringing the ball up the floor and fed a breaking Mike Mitchell who made the layup and the lead was 69-60 and this one was history. Mitchell did go to the line one more time and made 1 of 2 to make the final margin 70-60.

John Perez, as mentioned at the beginning, led all scorers with 21 points to go with his 15 rebounds. JP not only got his double-double in his first "real" NCAA tournament game (since he was taken out of last night's contest by the whistleblowers) but he played the entire 40 minutes, was excellent on the defensive end and was only called for 1 foul. Amazing what a difference a day makes. ;D

Shamoy McIntosh finished with 14 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist. he also played great defense especially on the 3 point shooters from the Warriors.

Mike Mitchell came off the bench to score 11 points going 3x4 from the field and 4x6 from the line. He had a big 3 pointer that brought Plattsburgh back from their final deficit to tie the score at 46.

Yesterday's MVP, Ezra Hodgson only took six shots today but made three of them and two were from long distance including the one that gave us the lead for good. Ezra ended up with 8 points, 4 rebounds, and 1 assist while playing 39 minutes.

Chris Manning once again directed the offense superbly and was 4x5 from the field scoring 8 points. Chris had 5 assists, 3 rebounds, and 3 steals in 24  minutes on the court.

Xavier Thomas only had 5 points but none were bigger than the alley oop dunk that shook the rafters. The XMan also pulled down 6 rebounds in 17 minutes of playing time.

Just like Friday's game the Cardinals outshot their opponents. They were 25x54 from the field (46.3%), 5x12 from long range (41.7%) and 15x25 from the line (60%). The Warriors were 26x67 (38.8%) from the field, 5x28 (17.9%) from 3 point land, and 3x5 from the line (60%)

I said in my pregame report that this game could come down to a three point shooting contest or won by the team that had the fewest turnovers. To show you how evenly matched the teams were consider these stats. Both teams only made 5 three point buckets (but the Cardinals did so with quite a few less attempts)  and they each had 9 turnovers.  They also finished dead even in rebounds with 38 boards each. Each team also registered just 8 assists and that happened  because we witnessed a lot of one on one play.       

The Warriors were led by Kevin Leumene and Trachone Preston who both scored 14 points. Leumene also hauled down 7 rebounds had 3 blocks and a steal. He was the only Warrior player who was effective from long range as he canned 2 of his 3 attempts. Preston had 3 assists and 2 rebounds and 2 three pointers as well but took 11 shots from downtown.

Hugh Lindo was the most impressive player on the floor for the Warriors, along with Leumene. Lindo gave the crowd his best Dennis Rodman impression as he just snatched everything in sight that wasn't near the Cardinals' John Perez. Lindo ended up with 10 points and 20 rebounds to capture honors in that category. I'm sure Warrior fans are drooling over the prospect of having him cleaning the glass over the next 3 years. Having Leumene for 2 more years as well, just makes it even better.

Mike Garrow in his last game as a Warrior also hit double figures with 13 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists. He also struggled from beyond the arc going 0-6 there.

Senior Brian Salzillo would have preferred to go out on a better note than 2x11 from the field. The sharpshooter had a great career though and sometimes the rock just doesn't fall the way you'd like it too. He ended up with 5 points and had 1 three pointer in 7 attempts.

In the end it may have been the 3 point shot that cost the Warriors the game. It seemed when they were working the ball and looking to go inside they had success. Lindo had 8 points in the 1st half but they quit going there (he ended up with 10) and the shots from long range weren't falling. The Cardinals didn't give them a lot of open looks and contested the three point line quite well, but the Warriors kept firing them up anyway. The Cardinals were also having trouble finding open looks from beyond the arc due to the defensive pressure the Warriors were applying. So the Cardinals instead, looked to Perez inside, and had such success there that they kept going to him quite often. He wanted the ball and the Cardinal point guards kept giving it to him. In the end that was a large reason why they walked off the court with the win. 

Eastern Connecticut ends their year with a 23-7 record and another very successful season is in the books. They have been one of the premiere teams in the Little East and it looks like they have some great talent to keep their spot near the top of the conference. Good luck to them in the future. I told the Coach's family before the game that it was going to be a heck of a game and it was. I also said I like to see one similar to the Oswego game of 2 years ago only with a different outcome. We didn't quite get the barnburner that the Lakers-Warriors game was but it was still well worth the price of admission. And I did get my wish about having a different outcome. ;D

Plattsburgh improves to 24-5 and will meet the Amherst Lord Jeffs for the second year in a row in the Sweet 16, probably in Amherst once again. :(

Who makes out these damn schedules anyway? ??? :P                                                       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 10, 2014, 09:03:23 AM
I can't imagine a happier dude in NYState right now than the magican. Congrats dude. What time today are you leaving for Amherst? I imagine that you may be the first 1 there to get their arena for tickets.  Sounds like u are gonna have 1 helluva welcoming party waiting for u!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 10, 2014, 10:31:29 AM
By the way even though Amherst is hosting, their students are on break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2014, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: thebear on March 10, 2014, 10:31:29 AM
By the way even though Amherst is hosting, their students are on break.


I spoke with Coach Curle yesterday after the site (which we already knew was going to be Amherst) was announced. He told me that Amherst was on break. I said get somebody at Plattsburgh State to get a couple of buses filled with students and send them to Amherst on Friday. 8-)  He said Plattsburgh State is on break also. ::) Getting a ticket to the Friday games shouldn't be much of a problem.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on March 10, 2014, 12:06:16 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 10, 2014, 03:07:09 PM
Amherst has posted on their website that the game on Friday with the Cardinals is at 7:30pm.  Live stats is stated...I expect that a webcast will also be available.  Need to confirm the announcer will be around...a member of the team last season. 
The student enrollment is under 1800 and a lot of the winter teams are at the NCAAs...swimming, track, etc.  Spring sports are underway...though the baseball team is down South..as are the tennis teams.  In brief, whether the students are on break or not...does not impact the crowds, IMHO.  A large crowds from the locals maybe possible since they enjoy the games in "winter" season.  The capacity of LeFrak is close to 2000 with the added seats....see a video of the conference title game to get a feel of the place with the added seats.  The visitors seating is behind their team on the Banner covered wall vice the open side.
Oops...the video is the featured one  on the Amherst athletic website....a YouTube video.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 10, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
Congrats to Magic and the Pburg boys--I wish the Eagles could be with you, but not in the cards(no pun intended). Still a great season for the Eagles but pulling for the Cardinals now. Good luck guys!!! Go Cards!!!! Go SUNY!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 11, 2014, 09:54:53 AM
Quote from: scooterman on March 10, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
Congrats to Magic and the Pburg boys--I wish the Eagles could be with you, but not in the cards(no pun intended). Still a great season for the Eagles but pulling for the Cardinals now. Good luck guys!!! Go Cards!!!! Go SUNY!!!!

Ditto what scooterman said with regards to the Cards. It is great to have SUNYAC team in the sweet 16 ( 1 of 8 conferences left standing). While many of us have cheered for different teams during the season, I for1 am curious as to how many "true" SUNYAC basketball fans are wishing the best for Plattsburgh. They are our standard bearer and here's to hoping that all those who have posted on these boards can find there way back here before Friday at 7:30. Ditto for those who have t been here during the season but know that our conference is still alive

The Cards have a chance to do something real special this weekend. If they can knock off The Lord Jeff's ( no easy task, cut doable) then the sky is the limit!

Go Cards!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NYHOOPS8 on March 11, 2014, 12:21:28 PM
Plattsburgh has the backcourt that can give Amherst fits. Amherst has the decided edge in the frontcourt though. If Plattsburgh can create turnovers and hold Toomey and Killian to pedestrian games, I can see Plattsburgh sneaking their way to a win and a possible redemption game against Stockton in the Elite 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 11, 2014, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: NYHOOPS8 on March 11, 2014, 12:21:28 PM
Plattsburgh has the backcourt that can give Amherst fits. Amherst has the decided edge in the frontcourt though. If Plattsburgh can create turnovers and hold Toomey and Killian to pedestrian games, I can see Plattsburgh sneaking their way to a win and a possible redemption game against Stockton in the Elite 8.

+1 !!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 11, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
LeFrak is not a great facility, low ceilings, bad lighting, distracting with the big empty end of the gym. 

In '05, we had 2 Rochester teams SJF & U of R, Potsdam and Amherst.  SJF was undefeated.  We all get to travel 5-6 hours east in a snowstorm.  Games could have been played at Rochester or Potsdam, with better facilities and crowds.

:-(

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 11, 2014, 10:03:41 PM
Interesting posts...especially the one with regards to the visit by two teams from Rochester, etc.  I remember there was an Amherst game with SJF  on March 11 in LeFrak.....in a NCAA game.  Remember the team looked good entering the gym.  Remember Amherst won 93-70...it was in '06..March of '06 and SJF was NOT undefeated coming in.  I saw the game with my friend.  Afterwards, he wondered how SJF got into the post season based on the performance on the floor.
There was a game with U. of Rochester in the post season in LeFrak...in '05.
You all can have your opinions wrt to the facility....but please get the facts correct wrt to dates and records, etc.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2014, 05:11:26 AM
Quote from: amh63 on March 11, 2014, 10:03:41 PM
Interesting posts...especially the one with regards to the visit by two teams from Rochester, etc.  I remember there was an Amherst game with SJF  on March 11 in LeFrak.....in a NCAA game.  Remember the team looked good entering the gym.  Remember Amherst won 93-70...it was in '06..March of '06 and SJF was NOT undefeated coming in.  I saw the game with my friend.  Afterwards, he wondered how SJF got into the post season based on the performance on the floor.
There was a game with U. of Rochester in the post season in LeFrak...in '05.
You all can have your opinions wrt to the facility....but please get the facts correct wrt to dates and records, etc.

amh63,

It's not nice to argue with thebear, he knows his facts. ;) He was correct when he stated that 2 Rochester teams, along with Potsdam State went to Amherst in March of 2005. He never stated that Amherst played St. John Fisher on March 11 2005. (I think you made the assumption that he did)  And St. John Fisher was undefeated at 28-0 when they walked into LeFrak on March 11th 2005. It was Potsdam State (26-3 coming into the game) who made short work of those Cardinals that night, winning by a 67-43 score. Amherst never got to play SJF that year. Amherst played Rochester right after Potsdam beat SJF on that same night. Amherst (26-1) was ranked #2 in the country and Rochester (21-4) was ranked #21 but Rochester prevailed by a 69-62 final to end the Lord Jeff's season. Potsdam played Rochester the next night in Amherst for the right to advance to the Final Four. Rochester won that game 67-51 and went to Salem that year.

The next year 2006, St John Fisher returned to Amherst along with Utica College and Tufts, as the LJ's once again hosted the Sectional on March 10th and 11th. What was interesting was there were two Sweet 16 matchups involving teams from the same conferences. In the first game on the 10th, Empire 8 conference foes Fisher and Utica College played each other with SJF winning by a 94-78 score. Then Amherst took the floor to play NESCAC rival Tufts. That was the game that Andrew Olson, with the LJ's down 74-71, hit an off balance three pointer (called one of the most amazing shots in Amherst history) with the clock winding down in regulation to send the game into overtime. Amherst jumped in front in the extra session and won 90-85.

They took on St. John Fisher the next night for the right to advance to the Final Four. That was the game you watched with your friend. It was on March 11th just as the game was the previous year when Potsdam beat SJF. You were right, St John Fisher was not undefeated (they were 26-3 at the time) and you were correct in that the LJ's won 93-70 and went to the FF.

What thebear said was correct, though. In 2005 Fisher was undefeated and probably should have hosted that Sectional. Fisher had the better record, and it would have made for less travel for the other three teams.

You just got your March 11th's mixed up a bit. ;D Easy enough to do my friend. If the darn LJ's didn't host so many Sectionals you wouldn't have this problem. ???       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 12, 2014, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 12, 2014, 05:11:26 AM
Quote from: amh63 on March 11, 2014, 10:03:41 PM
Interesting posts...especially the one with regards to the visit by two teams from Rochester, etc.  I remember there was an Amherst game with SJF  on March 11 in LeFrak.....in a NCAA game.  Remember the team looked good entering the gym.  Remember Amherst won 93-70...it was in '06..March of '06 and SJF was NOT undefeated coming in.  I saw the game with my friend.  Afterwards, he wondered how SJF got into the post season based on the performance on the floor.
There was a game with U. of Rochester in the post season in LeFrak...in '05.
You all can have your opinions wrt to the facility....but please get the facts correct wrt to dates and records, etc.

amh63,

It's not nice to argue with thebear, he knows his facts. ;) He was correct when he stated that 2 Rochester teams, along with Potsdam State went to Amherst in March of 2005. He never stated that Amherst played St. John Fisher on March 11 2005. (I think you made the assumption that he did)  And St. John Fisher was undefeated at 28-0 when they walked into LeFrak on March 11th 2005. It was Potsdam State (26-3 coming into the game) who made short work of those Cardinals that night, winning by a 67-43 score. Amherst never got to play SJF that year. Amherst played Rochester right after Potsdam beat SJF on that same night. Amherst (26-1) was ranked #2 in the country and Rochester (21-4) was ranked #21 but Rochester prevailed by a 69-62 final to end the Lord Jeff's season. Potsdam played Rochester the next night in Amherst for the right to advance to the Final Four. Rochester won that game 67-51 and went to Salem that year.

The next year 2006, St John Fisher returned to Amherst along with Utica College and Tufts, as the LJ's once again hosted the Sectional on March 10th and 11th. What was interesting was there were two Sweet 16 matchups involving teams from the same conferences. In the first game on the 10th, Empire 8 conference foes Fisher and Utica College played each other with SJF winning by a 94-78 score. Then Amherst took the floor to play NESCAC rival Tufts. That was the game that Andrew Olson, with the LJ's down 74-71, hit an off balance three pointer (called one of the most amazing shots in Amherst history) with the clock winding down in regulation to send the game into overtime. Amherst jumped in front in the extra session and won 90-85.

They took on St. John Fisher the next night for the right to advance to the Final Four. That was the game you watched with your friend. It was on March 11th just as the game was the previous year when Potsdam beat SJF. You were right, St John Fisher was not undefeated (they were 26-3 at the time) and you were correct in that the LJ's won 93-70 and went to the FF.

What thebear said was correct, though. In 2005 Fisher was undefeated and probably should have hosted that Sectional. Fisher had the better record, and it would have made for less travel for the other three teams.

You just got your March 11th's mixed up a bit. ;D Easy enough to do my friend. If the darn LJ's didn't host so many Sectionals you wouldn't have this problem. ???       

Thats why I love the Magicman.  He knows his stuff inside and out and if he doesn't then he does his homework 1ST before he makes a statement of fact! I know he has corrected me once ( or maybe twice) this year!

Go Cards ( of Plattsburgh that is!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 12, 2014, 12:17:30 PM
Magicman...thanks for the return down memory lane :).  Yes, I keyed the dates off of the SJF game i watched.  It was the first sectional i had traveled up for.  I remembered the Olson shot...forgot it was at the sectional...playing Tufts.  The Jumbos were a difficult team for Amherst that year.  I almost lost faith late in the second half....but my friend calmly stated that Amherst would win.  He knows BB :)

Andrew Olson as you know went on to become a two time 1st team All American.  As good as your backcourt is, I expect Amherst's backcourt to also be the key.  Aaron Toomey is also like Olson on his way to repeating as a first team all American. 

My apology to this board out of ignorance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 12, 2014, 12:52:46 PM
Forgot to mention a personal experience.  I enjoy visiting college campuses on my travels.  During my visits to the Rochester NY area...have a niece that attended RIT...I have walked around Rochester and the U. of Rochester in particular.  In the lobby of the U of Rochester field house/BB facility, there is a trophy case of sorts..left side going in.  At the time of the visit about 3 years ago, there was a basketball with markings on a shelve.  It marked a win over a Amherst MBB team in a post season game.  The year.....1963.  In all honesty I did not follow the varsity team then. :)   Oh yes, there was no NESCAC  then and I believe no NCAA designation of Div 1, 2 or 3 in sports.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AmherstStudent05 on March 12, 2014, 02:34:07 PM
All this talk about the 2005 NCAA Tournament brings up painful memories for me! (AmherstStudent05)  I still have nightmares of Seth Hauben and Jon Onyirunka killing us on the offensive boards.

Oh well, time to focus on this year!  Unfortunately, I will not be able to make the trip up to LeFrak this weekend.  To our guests from Plattsburgh, while I wish you a good time at Amherst, forgive me for hoping that you continue to harbor unfavorable impressions of LeFrak!

The only time I got to watch Plattsburgh all year was their game against Middlebury back in January.  Obviously that was a very impressive performance -- particularly how they were able to smother an inconsistent, yet very dangerous Panther offense.  I havent been able to find much video of the Cardinals, but I have started pouring over their boxscores.  One thing that immediately jumped out at me is that Shavar Fields has yet to play this postseason.  Has he been hurt?  Any chance he suits up on Friday?  I remember Fields and Correa from our game against Plattsburgh last year.  I remember thinking that that was an awful lot of talent to be coming off the bench.  While I am usually in favor of anything that advantages Amherst, you still hate to go up against an opponent that is limited by injury and I would think that Shavar would be a most unfortunate loss for the Cardinals (not that it seems to have limited you guys too much --particularly last week against an Eastern Conn team that was certainly one of the best teams we played all year).

Anyway, whoever is wearing the purple and white for us or the red and white for you guys, I am looking forward to a competitive game on Friday.  The way I see it, you guys owe the NESCAC a win this year to balance our accounts!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on March 12, 2014, 03:18:59 PM
Quote from: AmherstStudent05 on March 12, 2014, 02:34:07 PM
All this talk about the 2005 NCAA Tournament brings up painful memories for me! (AmherstStudent05)  I still have nightmares of Seth Hauben and Jon Onyirunka killing us on the offensive boards.

Oh well, time to focus on this year!  Unfortunately, I will not be able to make the trip up to LeFrak this weekend.  To our guests from Plattsburgh, while I wish you a good time at Amherst, forgive me for hoping that you continue to harbor unfavorable impressions of LeFrak!

The only time I got to watch Plattsburgh all year was their game against Middlebury back in January.  Obviously that was a very impressive performance -- particularly how they were able to smother an inconsistent, yet very dangerous Panther offense.  I havent been able to find much video of the Cardinals, but I have started pouring over their boxscores.  One thing that immediately jumped out at me is that Shavar Fields has yet to play this postseason.  Has he been hurt?  Any chance he suits up on Friday?  I remember Fields and Correa from our game against Plattsburgh last year.  I remember thinking that that was an awful lot of talent to be coming off the bench.  While I am usually in favor of anything that advantages Amherst, you still hate to go up against an opponent that is limited by injury and I would think that Shavar would be a most unfortunate loss for the Cardinals (not that it seems to have limited you guys too much --particularly last week against an Eastern Conn team that was certainly one of the best teams we played all year).

Anyway, whoever is wearing the purple and white for us or the red and white for you guys, I am looking forward to a competitive game on Friday.  The way I see it, you guys owe the NESCAC a win this year to balance our accounts!

While I never got to see Seth Hauben play in person, I did get to see Onyiriuka play his senior year.  He was a specimen and with Uche Ndubizu formed not only an imposing front line, but a solid entry the All-Name Team. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 12, 2014, 05:53:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 12, 2014, 05:11:26 AM

amh63,

It's not nice to argue with thebear, he knows his facts. ;)


Thanks Magic, +K
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 12, 2014, 06:01:05 PM
Magicman and All...see that a snowstorm is arriving.....Again....so it must be Sectional time!
The Amherst SID has put on the Amherst website...athletic part...a preview of the sectional teams.
Check it out!  Magicman...hope to hear if it is a fair and balanced one from you. :).  Maybe you can give AmhStud05 a better one...of the Cardinals?..Do not scare him too much...he is of another generation so to speak...Walzy's generation ;D.  I have seen your team a number of times...on line!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2014, 12:15:07 AM
Thanks to all the well wishes for my Cardinals from the posters on this board and from posters on other boards as well. I have lots of plus K's to be handing out before the night is through.

Now to  post some news and I'll try to answer some questions that have been asked of me by different posters.   

Winter Storm Vulcan (Didn't know they gave them names now) arrived at 10 AM this morning and the intensity of the storm has steadily increased throughout the day. The weather forecast is for the snow to continue to come down the rest of this evening, all through the night and finally ending early Thursday afternoon. Total accumulation is expected to be around 12 to 18 inches here in the Champlain Valley. We have already received 12 inches by 11 PM tonight.

I spoke to Coach Curle around 4 PM today and the team is leaving at 10 AM Thursday morning. That will give them plenty of time to get there, get rid of the buslegs and get a decent night's sleep. After watching the Cardinals practice this week I think I know most of the Lord Jeffs' plays by heart. ;D

The good news is that the Cardinals will be at full strength for the game against Amherst for the first time since the last regular season game against Buffalo State. Shamoy McIntosh made his return to the lineup this past weekend against MIT and Eastern Conneticut to take right up where he left off. Shamoy was the leading scorer on the team through the first 20 games averaging 14.3 ppg but an injury in mid February limited his floor time and then he went down early in the Buffalo State game and missed the SUNYAC playoffs completely. His average tailed off to 12.9 ppg but in the 2 NCAA games he scored 15 against MIT and 14 against Eastern Connecticut.

Plattsburgh's leading scorer Shavar Fields (14.5 ppg, 6.2 rpg) is back with the team after missing the past 4 games with a personal issue. Fields is 11 points shy of the magic 1000 career points achievement  and I hope he gets that milestone against Amherst. That should answer AmherstStudent05's question about Field's availability.

amh63, I did go to the Amherst website to look at the preview about the Cardinals and LJ's. It seems to cover all the important points about both teams. Plattsburgh is an extremely quick and athletic team, but Amherst also has some very athletic players. I think the reason that Amherst was able to beat Williams 3 times this year was because the LJ's were more athletic than the Ephs. The advantages that Plattsburgh has had on most opponents this year will be negated somewhat by the same attributes for Amherst.

The Massey Ratings has Amherst ranked #7 and Plattsburgh ranked #11. This matchup has the LJ's favored by 5 points with the game in LeFrak. The LJ's home court edge is worth 3 points so if you take that away, then a 2 point basket is all that separates these teams on a neutral court. I expect a closer game than the 2nd round game these teams played last year when Plattsburgh was missing their top inside scoring threat John Perez. Perez was the go to guy in the Cardinals win over Eastern Connecticut last Saturday and his ability to score on the interior should be a major factor in this game. Once again 3 point shooting will be huge with both teams possessing multiple long range gunners. If Aaron Toomey has one of his monster games the Cardinals will be in trouble. That will just open things up for the rest of the Amherst scorers. Connor Green didn't play in the LJ's win over York on Saturday and an injury in practice during the week was cited as the reason. Still don't know what the injury was and if it will limit him this weekend. As AmherstStudent05 stated I would prefer that both teams play the guys that got them where they are. (Besides Connor Green was my top pick on my Fantasy team and so far has gotten me 0 points. :o  Of course if my Cardinals were to limit him to just a few points and we win the game I wouldn't mind that at all. ;D) The Sectional preview didn't indicate that Green would be missing in action this weekend so I'm guessing that he'll be in the lineup.

I copied the Sectional Preview that was on the Amherst website and it is in the post immediately following this post. It is fairly comprehensive and covers most of the important players. it also saves me a lot of typing. ;)           
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2014, 12:18:31 AM
Here is the Sectional Preview from the Amherst website that amh63 mentioned.


SCOUTING AMHERST (25-3)
Capturing an unprecedented third-consecutive NESCAC Championship (seventh overall), the Jeffs earned a first round bye to the NCAA tournament for the third-straight year. Making its 16th championship appearance, Amherst is now 34-15 all-time in tourney play after defeating York (N.Y.) in its NCAA opener, 63-51.

Leading the Jeffs against the Cardinals, David Kalema '14 pulled down a personal-best eight rebounds, while falling one point shy of tying a career-high with 21. After posting a triple-double in the NESCAC Championship, Aaron Toomey '14 netted 15 points, while ripping down a career-best 12 boards. Tom Killian '14 notched his fourth double-double of the season with 10 points and 10 rebounds, while David George '17 anchored the Jeffs' defensive efforts down low with 11 boards and five blocks.

The catalyst for the NESCAC's highest scoring offense (84.5 ppg), Toomey was named the conference's Player of the Year for the second-straight season, joining former Jeff Andrew Olson '08 as the only players in league history to win the award in consecutive years. Leading the NESCAC in assists per game (6.3), the senior point guard sits second in the conference in points (20.3) and steals (1.9) per outing. Shooting 47.3 percent from the field, 39.5 percent from three and 90.5 percent from the free throw line, Toomey also averages 5.2 rebounds per outing.

A dynamic scorer, Connor Green '16 gives the Jeffs a formidable one-two punch, ranking fourth in the league in points per game (18.2). Knocking down 44.2 percent of his field goals, the sophomore standout shoots 35.0 percent from long distance and 76.3 percent from the charity stripe, while grabbing 5.7 rebounds per contest.

Kalema and Killian have also proven to be consistent contributors, joining Toomey as fellow senior captains. In the midst of a breakout season, Killian has posted career highs in points (14.8) and rebounds (6.3) per game en route to second-team All-NESCAC honors. Hitting 50.7 percent of his shot attempts, the swingman has shot 37.7 percent from behind the arc and 80.0 percent from the free throw line. Breaking into the starting lineup after three years as a key reserve, Kalema is averaging 12.5 points and 3.4 rebounds per outing as Toomey's backcourt mate, all while shooting 42.9 percent from the floor.

Making his biggest impact on the defensive end, George has been a pleasant surprise as a first-year, averaging 6.1 points and 5.7 rebounds per contest. Fourth in the conference in blocks per game (2.4), the rookie has swatted 69 shots this season, standing seven blocks shy of tying the program's single-season mark of 76 held by Pat Fitzsimmons '03.


SCOUTING PLATTSBURGH ST. (24-5)
Despite falling to No. 11 Brockport in the SUNYAC championship game, Plattsburgh St. earned an at-large bid to the NCAA Championships. Making their eighth tournament appearance, the Cardinals improved to 8-8 all-time in NCAA play with opening round victories over MIT and Eastern Connecticut State.

Ezra Hodgson '15 paced Plattsburgh in a 76-53 first round win over the Engineers, pouring in a career-high 27 points against what had been the nation's top-ranked scoring defense. Shamoy McIntosh '15 added 15 points and four assists, while Alan Siergiej '15 chipped in with 10 points and four boards.

Leading the Cardinals to a 70-60 triumph over the Warriors the following day, John Perez '14 posted a double-double with 21 points and 15 rebounds. Connecting on 7-of-10 free throws, McIntosh added 14 points, while Mike Mitchell '15 had 11 points on 3-of-4 shooting.

Second in the SUNYAC in three-point percentage (38.0), Plattsburgh sits third in field goal percentage (45.4) and scoring offense (78.3). Equally impressive on the defensive end, the Cardinals lead the conference in opponent three-point percentage (26.6) and ranked second and third, respectively, in opponent field goal percentage (39.7) and points allowed (67.2).

A second-team all-league pick, Shavar Fields '14 averages a team-high 14.5 points per game, while pulling down 6.2 rebounds and ranking fifth in the SUNYAC in field goal percentage (54.8). Joining Fields on the second team are Perez and Chris Manning '14. Perez is currently tied for second on the squad in scoring (12.9), while grabbing 9.3 rebounds. A versatile guard, Manning tops the conference in both assists (5.0) and steals (3.0) per game.

A third-team selection, McIntosh gives the Cardinals added depth in the backcourt, averaging 12.9 points and 4.0 rebounds per outing. Helping to spread the floor, Edward Correa '16 has averaged 10.9 points per game this season, while hitting a league-best 2.7 three pointers per outing.


What this preview failed to mention was the fact that we didn't have Shavar Fields over the past 4 games. It also doesn't mention Connor Green missing the York game last Saturday.

The Cardinals mentioned in the beginning of the Amherst preview were the York Cardinals not my Cardinals of Plattsburgh State. ;D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 13, 2014, 10:33:38 AM
Magicman...thanks for the response.  Real strange hours you Plattsburg supporters keep....4am...really.?
Not too worry that you or the Cardinals know the Amherst plays. :). Even slow me can recognize some of the plays.  The question is can the Cardinals stop the execution of them...as you well know.  The key one is when Toomey or Kalema indicates that he will try to break their defender down and go from there....many good teams have tried to stop Aaron when he isolates his defender or defenders and it leads to assists or points for Aaron. 
I believe the game will hinge on who plays the best defense...team defense.  Both teams are underrated on their defensive abilities.  The York ...the other Cardinals :)..game is a recent case.  York has quick athletic players and plays a tough zone press that caused Amherst problems.  They crushed RIC with steals, forcing TOs, etc.  they did that to Amherst in the first half.  Amherst adjusted after the half and pulled away from York.  Amherst did that in a number of games...including the last win over Williams where Williams' high power offense was shut down in the second half.
I expect a good close game.  If Your pick Connor Green is available and Connor Gach is on and Amherst's outside shots are good...lots of ifs, I know...I expect a repeat of last year..even if Toomey does not have a monster game.

Can not see...ignore my comment wrt to 4am....see it was 4pm after a re read of MM's post.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AmherstStudent05 on March 13, 2014, 10:51:47 AM
Magicman, thanks as always for your usual, comprehensive analysis.  While I may be singing a different tune tomorrow evening, for now I am pleased to know that you guys will have your full arsenal at the ready in LeFrak.  Conner Green evidently suffered some kind of ankle injury in practice last week. (I for one, had no idea he would be out until the starting lineups were announced against York.)  Unfortunately, I have no idea what his status is for Saturday.  For all I know he could be 100% in, 100% out, or somewheres in between.  I hope your reading of the tea leaves is right and that he will suit up.  Either way, with a trip to the Elite Eight on the line, I am very confident (and hopeful) that you will get our best games.

Also, completely agree with amh63.  I have no doubt you will recognize all of the sets we will run on Friday night.  The trick, of course, is stopping them, especially when they are being run through Toomey!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2014, 08:27:44 PM
So I'm plowing a friends driveway it's 7:35 PM and my phone jingles telling me I have a text message. I look and see it's from Coach Curle and he's telling me "I'm on Hoopsville in 10 minutes."  So I drive lickity split back to my store to hope I can catch the show.  Get into my office and get the computer turned on just in time to hear Dave McHugh introduce the Coach of Plattsburgh State. Yay!!

Dave started out by saying that Plattsburgh has flown a bit under the radar this year and Coach Curle responded by saying that he doesn't mind that at all. He stated that there are a few supporters of the Cardinal program that keep him informed of where they are in the rankings and where they should be and mentioned some guy named magicman as helping him out in that area. ;D

Coach Curle explained a bit about why the conference got 3 teams into the Dance this year. He stated that Brockport, Plattsburgh, and Geneseo were led by a solid group of upperclassmen which enabled those three schools to get a little separation from the rest of the conference.  He also talked about how much he's enjoyed this year's group of players and how they have played as a team. He brought up the fact that there are so many different options on the team that it's hard to know where the points are coming from on any given night.

When pressed by the host to state Plattsburgh's advantages over Amherst, the Coach was fairly non-committal and compared the Lord Jeffs to Plattsburgh with regard to ability. He believes we will benefit from having played in the Amherst gym last year and the "awe" factor won't come into play as it may have last year. He said the bottom line is the SUNYAC still has to get past the NESCAC and we've struggled to do that but at some point it has to happen to give our conference a needed boost.

Overall another solid interview from Coach Curle, and a nice job by Dave to ask some good questions. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 14, 2014, 10:55:47 AM
Magicman....caught the show last night with the Cardinals coach.  Surprised he did not let you know earlier :).  Good man...like his responses and avoiding any comments that maybe used by Coach Hixon.  At this stage and the quality of the coaches at the sectional, it really does't not matter much.  Did you get to see the Richard Stockton video on the sectionals?  Smart and wise "old" coach. 
Read the writeup on the Plattsburgh website of the game.  Maybe you should write ups/previews of the MBB games for the website? :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on March 14, 2014, 03:07:28 PM
Good Luck to the Cardinals and the Lord Jeffs tonight!!! Should be an exciting 2 hrs tonight.   May the best team win!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: amh63 on March 14, 2014, 10:55:47 AM
Magicman....caught the show last night with the Cardinals coach.  Surprised he did not let you know earlier :).  Good man...like his responses and avoiding any comments that maybe used by Coach Hixon.  At this stage and the quality of the coaches at the sectional, it really does't not matter much.  Did you get to see the Richard Stockton video on the sectionals?  Smart and wise "old" coach. 
Read the writeup on the Plattsburgh website of the game.  Maybe you should write ups/previews of the MBB games for the website? :)

I did see the Richard Stockton piece. Stockton's coach Gerry Matthews is one of the top coaches in basketball. I watched him in action at the sectional in Plattsburgh in '08 when the Ospreys played against your LJ's. Amherst opened the game on  a 17-0 outburst and looked like they were going to run Stockton right out of the gym. Stockton's biggest player was 6'5" and the next biggest player was 6'3". Amherst towered over them and opened up an 19 point lead at 25-6. But the Stockton coach never panicked and after 2 early time outs Stockton came back to trail at the half by a 42-30 margin. Three minutes into the 2nd period the score was 44-42 and although the Ospreys could never gain the lead the LJ's knew they were in a game the rest of the afternoon. Amherst prevailed 85-77 and went to the FF that year as we discussed earlier but I think everybody in Memorial Hall that watched that game came away with a sense of just how good Gerry Matthews was as a coach, to even be in that game, after the start they had and the talent they were up against.

It's nice to see that years later Matthews is still the Stockton coach and the success of the program under him continues year after year. In the 6 years since the 07-08 season, Matthews' team has won 20 games in 5 of those 6 years.

On another note...there were 2 write-ups on the Plattsburgh website concerning the Plattsburgh-Amherst game. One was much longer than the other. Not sure if you spotted them both.

Hope the Lord Jeffs play a hell of a game tonight and come up just a bit short. ;D My Cards will look to do what has no one else has done this year...beat Amherst at home.

I'll have my prediction posted in the next hour. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2014, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on March 14, 2014, 03:07:28 PM
Good Luck to the Cardinals and the Lord Jeffs tonight!!! Should be an exciting 2 hrs tonight.   May the best team win!!

Thanks for the good luck wishes ECSUalum but it looks like you're hedging a bit. Who are you rooting for? amh63 says he doesn't mind if you're really rooting for my Cards over his LJ's, even though you're good buddies. ;) After all it is kind of like the good guys against the Evil Empire. ;D


I noticed you have a definite preference for Albertus Magnus against Williams in the other NESCAC game, with your recent post on the GNAC board. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 14, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 14, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: amh63 on March 14, 2014, 10:55:47 AM
Magicman....caught the show last night with the Cardinals coach.  Surprised he did not let you know earlier :).  Good man...like his responses and avoiding any comments that maybe used by Coach Hixon.  At this stage and the quality of the coaches at the sectional, it really does't not matter much.  Did you get to see the Richard Stockton video on the sectionals?  Smart and wise "old" coach. 
Read the writeup on the Plattsburgh website of the game.  Maybe you should write ups/previews of the MBB games for the website? :)

I did see the Richard Stockton piece. Stockton's coach Gerry Matthews is one of the top coaches in basketball. I watched him in action at the sectional in Plattsburgh in '08 when the Ospreys played against your LJ's. Amherst opened the game on  a 17-0 outburst and looked like they were going to run Stockton right out of the gym. Stockton's biggest player was 6'5" and the next biggest player was 6'3". Amherst towered over them and opened up an 19 point lead at 25-6. But the Stockton coach never panicked and after 2 early time outs Stockton came back to trail at the half by a 42-30 margin. Three minutes into the 2nd period the score was 44-42 and although the Ospreys could never gain the lead the LJ's knew they were in a game the rest of the afternoon. Amherst prevailed 85-77 and went to the FF that year as we discussed earlier but I think everybody in Memorial Hall that watched that game came away with a sense of just how good Gerry Matthews was as a coach, to even be in that game, after the start they had and the talent they were up against.

It's nice to see that years later Matthews is still the Stockton coach and the success of the program under him continues year after year. In the 6 years since the 07-08 season, Matthews' team has won 20 games in 5 of those 6 years.

On another note...there were 2 write-ups on the Plattsburgh website concerning the Plattsburgh-Amherst game. One was much longer than the other. Not sure if you spotted them both.

Hope the Lord Jeffs play a hell of a game tonight and come up just a bit short. ;D My Cards will look to do what has no one else has done this year...beat Amherst at home.

I'll have my prediction posted in the next hour.

America awaits! ;) ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2014, 05:07:23 PM
The Sweet 16 Game

Plattsburgh State Cardinals 24-5  at   Amherst Lord Jeffs   25-3

The teams meet again in a rematch of a 2nd round game from last year. That game started out with the teams trading baskets for the first 4 minutes but with the score 8-7 in favor of the Cardinals, the Lord Jeffs' high powered offense kicked into another gear and the Cardinals couldn't keep up. Seven different Amherst players scored over the next 11 minutes and the LJ's outscored the Cardinals by a 37-10 margin to take a 44-18 lead with 5 minutes left in the 1st half. The 26 point advantage would be their largest of the night.  The Cardinals went 4x20 during that span which proved to be their undoing. They did outscore Amherst 19-6 over the final five minutes of the period as they knocked down 7 of their final 8 shots and made all 3 of their free throws. They managed to cut the lead in half and narrow the gap to 50-37 at the break. A three pointer to open the 2nd half got Plattsburgh within 10 points but the cards could get no closer and the LJ's won by an 89-72 final score.

It's been 370 days since that game and tonight the Cardinals have a chance to gain a measure of revenge. The positives for Plattsburgh is that they have the players back in the lineup that were absent during the SUNYAC playoffs. The return of their top 2 scorers, Shamoy McIntosh and Shavar Fields will give the Cardinals all of their weapons against a team where you need to bring all of your weapons. John Perez will play against the LJ's for the first time as he missed last year's contest with an injury. I expect the Cardinals to use an 8 man rotation in today's game with a starting 5 of Manning, Perez, McIntosh, Hodgson and Correa. Mitchell, Fields and Thomas will be the main subs with Siergiej possibly spelling the big men if any foul problems arise.

The Cardinals have a solid group that I would rate to be a better team than the one that faced off with Amherst last year. The addition of Perez will be a big difference for Plattsburgh and the team has the advantage of 3 games in NCAA play under their belt as opposed to last year when none of the players had ever been in a tournament game before.

This Amherst team is once again making waves in their attempt to go back to back  as National Champions. Last year they dominated most of the teams they came up against in the tournament and although they didn't dominate York in their first game this year, they did end up winning by double figures. They were missing their 2nd leading scorer Connor Green in that game but I expect to see him back in the lineup today. The LJ's should open the game with a lineup of Toomey, Green, Killian, Kalema and George. The main players off the bench will be Gach, (a player from my neck of the woods, Saranac Lake) Mussachia and Levine.

I don't think this year's edition is quite as good as the LJ's were last year. The loss of Willy Workman, Big Pete Kaasila, and Allen Williamson were 3 big holes to fill. Green, Kalema, and George have certainly done an admirable job though, but I think that last year's team was loaded.

The oddsmakers have kept the line on this game steady over the past week with the Lord Jeffs listed as a 5 point favorite. If this game was played in Plattsburgh, the Cardinals would be listed as a slight 1 point favorite, and the LJ's would get the nod on a neutral court by a 3 point margin. All of that tells me that this game is basically a tossup. A 3 pointer here, a couple of missed foul shots there, a key turnover down the stretch, a bad call (and I hope that doesn't happen) can all turn the game around. I know the Lord Jeffs haven't lost in LeFrak all year long and beating them there will take the best the Cards have to offer but I can't pick against my guys even if the spread was 20 points instead of 5. Somehow I think this team can get it done today. I believe if they can come out and stay in this game early and put enough pressure on Amherst to make the LJ's uncomfortable, then the upset that most people don't think will happen, can happen. Plattsburgh wins this one 77-74.   GO CARDS!!                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2014, 08:30:08 PM
It's not looking good for the Cardinals as they trail 49-29 at the half. Amherst shooting 53%... Plattsburgh shooting 33 %. Cardinals getting killed on the boards doesn't help either. 

David George with 12 points and Connor Green with 11 lead the LJ's.  Killian with 9.    Toomey and Kalema with 7 each. Starters all shooting well.

Plattsburgh is led by Eddie Correa with 8 points and Ezra Hodgson with 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2014, 10:33:47 PM
Amherst defeats Plattsburgh State 87-63. I believe that was the final score as the video feed and live stats cut out with about 35 seconds left in the game.

Plattsburgh narrowed a 20 point halftime deficit down to 13 early in the 2nd half but Amherst hit a pair of 3 points and quickly built it back to 20 points.  They increased the lead to 23 and the Cardinals started pressing and got it down to 16 with about 8 minutes left but once again a 3 point shot by Killian boosted the LJ's lead back to 19. The cardinals could get no closer than 17 after that and both teams brought in the bench players for the final few minutes of the game.

Amherst was the better team and it's easy to see why they just may pull off back to back national Championships.  Congratulations to Amherst on a well played game. 

Tom Killian with 22 points led the way for the LJ's. Aaron Toomey and Connor Green both had 15 points. Toomey had 12 assists and 3 steals, while Green added 7 rebounds. David George came up 1 block short of a triple double as he had 13 points, 11 rebounds and 9 blocks. Amherst fans are gonna love him for the next 3 years, along with Green for the next 2. David Kalema was the 5th starter to score in double figures with 12 points and 6 rebounds.

Plattsburgh was led by John Perez with 16 points and 8 rebounds. Eddie Correra, Shamoy McIntosh and Ezra Hodgson all scored 11 points each. Xavier Thomas had 6 points, 5 rebounds and 2 blocks. Point guard Chris Manning had 8 steals, 3 assists amd 3 rebounds. Mike Mitchell had 5 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds. 

The Lord Jeffs shot 55.4% from the field (31x56), 44.8% from long range (13x29) and 80% from the line (12x15).
The Cardinals had an off night only shooting 34.8% from the field (23x66), 6x21 from beyond the arc (28.6%) and 64.7% from the line(10x17).

Amherst won the battle of the boards 45 to 27 but did have quite a few more turnovers than the Cardinals, 19 to 8.

Plattsburgh ends another successful season with a final record of 24-6. Gettin to the Sweet 16 was a great accomplishment for this group of players and I'm especially happy for seniors John Perez, Shavar Fields, Chris Manning and Anthony Baker. They went out with a great final season...one of the best in Cardinal History. I'm sure they'll remember it for a long time. To be one of the final 16 teams  still standing out of over 400+ schools is an accomplishment that doesn't happen all that often. Good luck to the seniors in their life's endeavors to succeed. To the rest of the players I'll be looking forward to another great year on the hardwood next year. Go Cardinals!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on March 14, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
The Lord Jeffs are scary good.  It's really tough to see anyone beating them.  Too many offensive tools for anyone to handle and Toomey didn't really push his own offense against you guys.  Plattsburgh had a great run this year.  Beat my guys in our barn.  Looking forward to returning the favor next January.
Thanks for the great analysis all season, magic.  Congrats on a terrific year, Cards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2014, 11:24:12 PM
Quote from: middhoops on March 14, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
The Lord Jeffs are scary good.  It's really tough to see anyone beating them.  Too many offensive tools for anyone to handle and Toomey didn't really push his own offense against you guys.  Plattsburgh had a great run this year.  Beat my guys in our barn.  Looking forward to returning the favor next January.
Thanks for the great analysis all season, magic.  Congrats on a terrific year, Cards.

Thanks middhoops,

I was happy, as my goals for the team at the beginning of the year was to make the Sweet 16. We accomplished that goal and I knew that beating the LJ's in Amherst was probably not going to happen. But I sure as hell wasn't gonna pick them to win. ;D I did see your PM prior to tip off. I actually have the Lord Jeffs to win it all on my bracket. Well I have two brackets, one in my name where I picked Illinois Wesleyan to beat Amherst in the Championship game. Plus one in my wife's name where I picked Amherst to beat Stevens Point in the final game. Point just lost in OT to Emory. That was an exciting game to watch. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 15, 2014, 12:01:56 AM
   Congrats to The Cards and Coach Curle for a fantastic season. Coach Curle is as classy a coach as I have ever seen during my travels in the SUNYAC. The Cards had a season  that at least 400 D3 basketball teams would give anything to have experienced this season, but didnt! There is a reason why Amherst is the defending Champs, and the pick of many to repeat.

Congrats to Magicman for representing our conference on these boards and across the nation and making all of us proud that that you are part of the SUNYAC! A big part.

Go Cards

Go 'YAC!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 15, 2014, 05:54:30 AM
My friend from Buffalo is too kind and also one classy individual. Coach Curle and I both thank you for the compliments. 8-)

The SUNYAC had a great year and with a lot of talent returning I see another good year in 2014-15. Of course, I expect my Cardinals to be at or near the top once again, perhaps fighting it out with your Bengals. ;) Brockport will once again field a solid team and Geneseo has a good group of returning players as well. Cortland, Oneonta and Oswego all had young players last year and with a few new additions will be challenging the leaders once again.   Go YAC!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 15, 2014, 03:14:16 PM
Magicman.....glad you are upbeat this morning. :)  In line with your expectation for next season....I agree with you about the Cardinals.  So much so that I feel that there is a good chance that our teams may well meet next season in the post season.  Why?  Another time when I see how Amherst's big in size, number and talent FY class come back for their sophmore season.  Along those lines, I like your Ezra Hodgson, the junior from New Hampshire.  I am wondering if he knows of Amherst's Connor Green also from New Hampshire.  I believe they are about the same age.
Connor spent a prep year elsewhere after HS.  Green was the Gatorade Player in NH before he went to prep school, I believe.  They would both have played the forward position in HS.
I saw an older person...wearing glasses....in several pictures of the Cardinal bench.  Curious about who he was, went to the website to find out.  All the assistant coaches for the Cardinals are much younger.  Any inside info on the man. :) :)  You see my background research has no bounds. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 15, 2014, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: amh63 on March 15, 2014, 03:14:16 PM
Magicman.....glad you are upbeat this morning. :)  In line with your expectation for next season....I agree with you about the Cardinals.  So much so that I feel that there is a good chance that our teams may well meet next season in the post season.  Why?  Another time when I see how Amherst's big in size, number and talent FY class come back for their sophmore season.  Along those lines, I like your Ezra Hodgson, the junior from New Hampshire.  I am wondering if he knows of Amherst's Connor Green also from New Hampshire.  I believe they are about the same age.
Connor spent a prep year elsewhere after HS.  Green was the Gatorade Player in NH before he went to prep school, I believe.  They would both have played the forward position in HS.
I saw an older person...wearing glasses....in several pictures of the Cardinal bench.  Curious about who he was, went to the website to find out.  All the assistant coaches for the Cardinals are much younger.  Any inside info on the man. :) :)  You see my background research has no bounds. 8-)

The gentleman in glasses that you spotted on the Cardinal bench is John Konowitz. John was the former head coach for New Paltz State from 1985-86 through 1988-89, who then moved on and became the head coach for Cortland State from 1989-90  through 1994-95. He has been retired from coaching for a few years and moved back to the Plattsburgh area recently. He wanted to help out and  became a volunteer assistant this year under Coach Curle. Unlike many schools Coach Curle does not have a large staff of assistant coaches. His only assistant coach is associate head coach, Cameron Conover, a former Division II player who has been with Coach Curle for nine years now. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 15, 2014, 05:24:29 PM
Thanks for the info.  Cortland...heh...My daughter lives in between Cortland and Ithaca...in the town of Groton...rather the Village of Groton.  Last season, Middlebury had to go to the Cortland and beat the Red Dragons to advance to the Elite 8.  It is good to be useful.  Someone suggested a Walmart greeter for me to keep me out of trouble.  Do not qualify due to my personality...if truth be known.   Thanks again, my friend.  Hoping to make my plans to Salem after tonight.  First the Lord Jeffs have to win a game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2014, 11:54:05 AM
Here is the D3hoops All East Region Team


Players were nominated for these awards by the Sports Information Directors at the various schools.

Player of the Year: John Ivy, Sr., Brockport State
Coach of the Year: Joe Smith, Morrisville State
Rookie of the Year: Joey Lufkin, G, Hartwick

First team     
Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G Jordan Prior Morrisville State Sr. Cortland, N.Y.
G John Ivy Brockport State Sr. Rochester, N.Y.
F Brad Ford Nazareth Sr. Victor, N.Y.
F Richie Bonney Hobart Sr. Norwich, N.Y.
F Jared Suderley Hartwick Sr. Newport, N.Y.


Second team     
Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G Johnny Mrlik Vassar So. San Francisco, Calif.
G John Coleman Clarkson Jr. Potsdam, N.Y.
F Gordon Lyons Geneseo State Jr. Amherst, N.Y.
F Kevin McMahon Cortland State Sr. Hoosick Falls, N.Y.
F Evan Kupferberg New York University So. Boca Raton, Fla.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2014, 07:00:04 PM
There was only one team that reached the Sweet 16, yet failed to have a member of their team named to an all region team. You guessed it....my Plattsburgh State Cardinals.  There were six teams that didn't reach the Sweet 16 that had 2 players named to an all region team.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2014, 12:48:45 AM
It was tough when no Plattsburgh players were first team all-conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 18, 2014, 03:55:49 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2014, 12:48:45 AM
It was tough when no Plattsburgh players were first team all-conference.

I understand the conundrum, yet we had twice as many all conference players as anyone else. I was hoping the fact that we got to the Sweet 16 may have moved one of our players higher up the food chain and in line for an all region placement. Can't argue much about the guys that did make the all region team...they were all good players. I wish the East region got 3 teams which would make it easier to reward players that are deserving. Many outstanding players are left off as it's hard to narrow down, when there are only 10 spots to fill. 39 teams x 5 starters is 195 players at a minimum that get whittled down to the lucky 10.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 18, 2014, 11:31:59 AM
That's true but the ratio is there for a reason -- it would be inequitable to have three teams in the East and whittle 180 starters (Houghton, Alfred State, Canton not yet eligible) down to 15 at one spot for every 12 players, but then have a 56-team region whittle down to the same 15 at one spot for every 19.

It's meant to be a fairly exclusive club.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2014, 06:27:20 AM
National Association of Basketball Coaches Announces the 2014 NABC Division III All-District Teams and Coaches

*District Player of the Year

East Region

First Team                                                                                                 Second Team

Richie Bonney, Hobart                                                                                John Coleman, Clarkson
Brad Ford, Nazareth                                                                                   Joe Gibbons, Hobart
John Ivy, SUNY Brockport*                                                                     Evan Kupferberg, New York University
Gordon Lyons, SUNY Geneseo                                                                     Kevin McMahon, SUNY Cortland
Jordan Prior, SUNY Morrisville                                                                     Justin Mitchell, Buffalo State
Jared Suderley, Hartwick

Coach of the Year: Greg Dunne, SUNY Brockport

Here's the link to the complete list of All District Teams:
http://www.nabc.org/awards/all_district/2014_NABC_Division_III_All-District_Teams_and_Coaches.pdf   


Congratulations to all the players.   Of the SUNYAC players...John Ivy gets his 2nd Player of the Year in 2 days. Gordon Lyons and Kevin McMahon also made their 2nd All Region team in two days.

Nice to see Justin Mitchell get some recognition for the outstanding career he had at Buffalo State.

Coach Greg Dunne gets the well deserved honor of Coach of the Year. Congratulation to him for a great year.

A special congratulations to Richie Bonney  from Hobart who was chosen on March 17th as the 2014 Jostens Award Winner.
The Jostens Trophy is emblematic of the top overall student-athlete in Division III basketball.

Here's the link to the story:
http://d3hoops.com/notables/2014/03/fischer-bonney-win-jostens-trophy     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2014, 05:45:52 AM
The honors continue for some of our East Region players on Thursday, as the NABC released their All American Teams.

Brockport State's John Ivy is named to the 2014 NABC Coaches Division All America First Team.

Richie Bonney of Hobart is named to the All America Second Team.

Jared Suderley of Hartwick is named to the All America Third Team.

Congratulations on the latest post season honors these 3 players have racked up.

Here's the complete list of NABC All Americans:



2014 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM
John Ivy, SUNY Brockport, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Rochester, N.Y.
Javae King-Gilchrist, William Paterson, 6-2, Senior, Guard, Teaneck, N.J.
Tyler Peters, Wheaton, 6-4,Senior, Guard, Medina, Ohio
Doug Thorpe, Wooster, 5-9, Senior, Guard, Columbus, Ohio
Tyler Tillema, UW Stevens Point, 6-3, Senior, Guard, Randolph, Wis.
Aaron Toomey, Amherst, 6-1,Senior, Guard, Greensboro, N.C.
Aaron Walton-Moss, Cabrini, 6-1 Junior, Guard, Camden, N.J.
DJ Woodmore, Virginia Wesleyan, 6-3, Senior, Guard, Virginia Beach, Va.


2014 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA SECOND TEAM
Richie Bonney, Hobart, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Norwich, N.Y.
Brandon Gries, St. Norbert, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Kiel, Wis.
Malcolm Heard II, Wilmington, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Wilmington, Ohio
Dan Kornbaum, Augsburg, 6-9, Senior, Post, Little Falls, Minn.
Andre Nixon, SUNY Purchase, 6-3, Senior, Guard, Harlem, N.Y.
Brian Parker, Alvernia, 6-4, Senior, Forward, Chichester, Pa.
Kyle Schleigh, UT Dallas, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Houston, Texas
Darius Watson, Albertus Magnus, 6-5, Senior, Guard/Forward, New Britain, Conn.


2014 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA THIRD TEAM
Mike Garrow, Eastern Connecticut,6-4, Senior, Forward, Terryville, Conn.
Adam Honig, Dickinson, 6-1 Senior, Guard, Chappaqua, N.Y.
Chris Klimek, Washington U-St. Louis, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Inverness, Ill.
Dustin McConnell, Whitworth, 5-11, Senior, Guard, Clarkston, Wash.
Dillon Stith, St. Vincent, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Bedford, Va.
Jared Suderley, Hartwick, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Newport, N.Y.
Larry Thomas, Birmingham Southern, 6-1, Junior, Guard, Atlanta, Ga.
Michael Woods, York (NY), 6-3, Senior, Guard, Brooklyn
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on March 21, 2014, 04:57:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 21, 2014, 05:45:52 AM
The honors continue for some of our East Region players on Thursday, as the NABC released their All American Teams.

Brockport State's John Ivy is named to the 2014 NABC Coaches Division All America First Team.

Richie Bonney of Hobart is named to the All America Second Team.

Jared Suderley of Hartwick is named to the All America Third Team.

Congratulations on the latest post season honors these 3 players have racked up.

Here's the complete list of NABC All Americans:



2014 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM
John Ivy, SUNY Brockport, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Rochester, N.Y.
Javae King-Gilchrist, William Paterson, 6-2, Senior, Guard, Teaneck, N.J.
Tyler Peters, Wheaton, 6-4,Senior, Guard, Medina, Ohio
Doug Thorpe, Wooster, 5-9, Senior, Guard, Columbus, Ohio
Tyler Tillema, UW Stevens Point, 6-3, Senior, Guard, Randolph, Wis.
Aaron Toomey, Amherst, 6-1,Senior, Guard, Greensboro, N.C.
Aaron Walton-Moss, Cabrini, 6-1 Junior, Guard, Camden, N.J.
DJ Woodmore, Virginia Wesleyan, 6-3, Senior, Guard, Virginia Beach, Va.


2014 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA SECOND TEAM
Richie Bonney, Hobart, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Norwich, N.Y.
Brandon Gries, St. Norbert, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Kiel, Wis.
Malcolm Heard II, Wilmington, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Wilmington, Ohio
Dan Kornbaum, Augsburg, 6-9, Senior, Post, Little Falls, Minn.
Andre Nixon, SUNY Purchase, 6-3, Senior, Guard, Harlem, N.Y.
Brian Parker, Alvernia, 6-4, Senior, Forward, Chichester, Pa.
Kyle Schleigh, UT Dallas, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Houston, Texas
Darius Watson, Albertus Magnus, 6-5, Senior, Guard/Forward, New Britain, Conn.


2014 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA THIRD TEAM
Mike Garrow, Eastern Connecticut,6-4, Senior, Forward, Terryville, Conn.
Adam Honig, Dickinson, 6-1 Senior, Guard, Chappaqua, N.Y.
Chris Klimek, Washington U-St. Louis, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Inverness, Ill.
Dustin McConnell, Whitworth, 5-11, Senior, Guard, Clarkston, Wash.
Dillon Stith, St. Vincent, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Bedford, Va.
Jared Suderley, Hartwick, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Newport, N.Y.
Larry Thomas, Birmingham Southern, 6-1, Junior, Guard, Atlanta, Ga.
Michael Woods, York (NY), 6-3, Senior, Guard, Brooklyn

Is there discrimination against big guys on these teams?  As a guy from the NESCAC which is developing into a 'big guy' conference, I'm disappointed by the lack of guys over 6-6 on these teams.  Ironic, when you think of the recruiting focus of so many of the top teams.
Good work, magicman.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 22, 2014, 08:33:27 AM
middhoops,

I think it's a combination of a couple of factors.

The biggest factor with so many of the choices is that a high scoring average is just about a prerequisite to receive one of these awards. The big men usually don't outscore the better guards in the conferences or regions. The big guys will usually have a 14-18 ppg average with a 7-11 rpg average and so many of these  guys aren't bigger than 6'6". I look at the guys in my region...Bonney and Suderley were both very good with great careers and hard not to put up for these awards. Then there was Gordon Lyons, Justin Mitchell, Kevin McMahon, John Perez and John Coleman, all guys that averaged a double double or very close too it and none bigger than 6'6".   

The usual decision to spread the wealth around means that a conference like NESCAC will get Toomey, and with only 2 other spots available for the Northeast Region they will go to a guy like Watson (and usually his conference doesn't get an award) with his big scoring average and then they'll probably choose another player from either the NEWMAC or the Little East. This year it went to the LEC. Since the ballots for those awards didn't have to be in until after the first weekend of the NCAA, I think the fact that Albertus Magnus and Eastern Connecticut won games in the NCAA's and the 4 NEWMAC teams bombed out may have helped the two guys from those teams get the award. Toomey was going to be named to the first regardless.  So there go your three spots and there's no room for a Mayer or Swords or any other big guy in the region. (Something tells me that Robinson and George will make these teams possibly as soon as next year. Remember even your own Ryan Sharry was a junior before he made these teams.

The big guys in some of the power conferences like the NESCAC, or UAA or CCIW or WIAC are usually the ones that get the 6'8"  and up guys with talent, more so than the SUNYAC or conferences like them. They can recruit a D II or low level to midlevel D1 player easier than we can because of the education that they can offer. It's not often you see a 6'8" guy or bigger in the SUNYAC that's a member of a starting five. Brockport had a decent big man this year but even he didn't start.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 23, 2014, 05:36:47 AM
D3hoops has released their All America Teams.

John Ivy from Brockport State was named to the 2nd Team.

The 2014 D3hoops.com All-America team

Player of the Year: G Aaron Toomey, Sr., Amherst
Rookie of the Year: F Duncan Robinson, Fr., Williams
Coach of the Year: Pat Miller, UW-Whitewater

First team       
Pos Player School Year Hometown
G Aaron Toomey Amherst Sr. Greensboro, N.C.
G Tyler Tillema UW-Stevens Point Sr. Randolph, Wis.
G Aaron Walton-Moss Cabrini  Jr. Camden, N.J.
F Jared Suderley Hartwick Sr. Newport, N.Y.
C Michael Mayer Williams Sr. Durham, N.C.

Second team       
Pos Player School Year Hometown
G DJ Woodmore Virginia Wesleyan Sr. Virginia Beach, Va.
G John Ivy Brockport State Sr. Rochester, N.Y.
F Jake Davis Emory  Sr.  Cincinnati, Ohio
F Andrew Ziemnik Illinois Wesleyan Sr. Oswego, Ill.
C Dan Kornbaum Augsburg Sr. Little Falls, Minn.

Third team       
Pos Player School Year Hometown
G Xavier Brown Wooster Jr. Bowling Green, Ohio
G Tyler Peters Wheaton (Ill.) Sr. Medina, Ohio
F Kyle Schleigh Texas-Dallas  Sr.  Houston, Texas
F Richie Bonney Hobart Sr. Norwich, N.Y.
C David Langan Wesley Sr. Sayreville, N.J.

Fourth team       
Pos Player School Year Hometown
G Andre Nixon SUNY-Purchase Sr. Harlem, N.Y.
G Trevor Hass UW-Stevens Point Sr. New London, Wis.
G Darius Watson Albertus Magnus  Sr.  New Britain, Conn.
F Duncan Robinson Williams Fr. New Castle, N.H.
F Malcolm Heard II Wilmington Sr. Wilmington, Ohio

Honorable mention       
Pos Player School Year Hometown
G Adam Honig Dickinson Sr. Chappaqua, N.Y.
G Julian Strickland Rose-Hulman Sr. Indianapolis, Ind.
G Brandon Gries St. Norbert  Sr.  Kiel, Wis.
G KJ Evans UW-Whitewater Jr. Beloit, Wis.
F Chris Klimek Washington U. Sr. Inverness, Ill.

Congratulations to all the award winners as so many outstanding players on this list wrap up their college careers. They will be missed.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 23, 2014, 07:43:20 AM
I'm a little confused by John Ivy's selection to the 2nd Team and not the 1st Team. I could understand if he was beaten out for a 1st Team spot by another region's Player of the Year as there are 8 regions and only five 1st Team spots, so there will be some Regional Players of the Year that can't make the 1st team.

It's also possible that a region could have 2 players named to the 1st team and in the case of the Northeast Region they have both that region's Player of the Year, Aaron Toomey, and another Northeast Region 1st Teamer, Michael Mayer, on the All America First Team and I can understand that reasoning. Sometimes two or more of the best players in the country come from the same region or sometimes even from the same team.

The D3 hoops First Team has 3 players that were their respective Regional Players of the Year. Aaron Toomey, Northeast Region, Aaron Walton-Moss, Mid-Atlantic Region, and Tyler Tillema, West Region. The 4th player is the above mentioned Michael Mayer who was also from the Northeast Region and the 5th player is Jared Suderley from the East Region. Jared was not the East Region Player of the Year. That honor went to John Ivy. So I'm trying to figure out why John would be considered by D3hoops as the top player in the region on March 17th  and yet a scant 5 days later not be considered as the top player in the region because obviously Jared Suderley has now been awarded that honor.

I'm not trying to belittle Jared Suderley's talents on the court. He had an outstanding career and I know he was named on prior AA teams. If he had been selected as the D3hoops East Region's Player of the Year last week I could have accepted that. I wouldn't agree with it, since I thought that John Ivy clearly had the best season and carried his team more than any other East region player, but I could have accepted it. I actually get to vote for one of the awards, for Regional teams, and I had Jared Suderley on my first team, but I had John Ivy as the Player of the Year. And apparently so didn't quite a few others since he's been named as the East Region Player of the year on every team that's been released. I'm fairly confident, and I know it's speculation but I feel that had John not been injured,  ending his season in the middle of February, Brockport would have been in the Elite Eight at the very least. 

Here's something that was mentioned on the NESCAC board where a little discussion broke out regarding the Rookie of the Year selection when D3hoops came out with their regional teams. A few posters were surprised that Duncan Robinson didn't get that honor. Some of the stats for him and the player that was chosen were compared and some lobbying was put forth and Mr. Coleman said trying to influence him wouldn't help the matter. The next day a poster asked "How can Duncan Robinson be in the running for National Rookie of the Year, when he didn't win Regional Rookie of the year?"  Pat's reply was: "Well, exactly, he really isn't. We do occasionally reorder people from the regional team based on playoff performance, though. And sometimes the coach of the year isn't one of the regional honorees."

That statement "we do occasionally reorder people from the regional team based on playoff performance" would leave the door open to leapfrog Jared Suderley over John Ivy if there were any playoff performances to consider. In this case there were none as Hartwick was already eliminated from postseason play when the regional teams were announced on the 17th. They lost their 1st round game to SUNY-Purchase 97-71 on March 7th. 

Which leaves me with the feeling that somehow John Ivy didn't get his due. And the fact that he didn't make the first team is rather disappointing. Finishing his career as the all time leading scorer in Brockport State history is a great accomplishment but the D3hoops First Team All America award would have been a nice touch. Fortunately he can claim that honor with his NABC First Team All America award but it would have been nice to win them both, especially after getting the  D3hoops Regional award.     
       

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 24, 2014, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 23, 2014, 07:43:20 AM
I'm a little confused by John Ivy's selection to the 2nd Team and not the 1st Team. I could understand if he was beaten out for a 1st Team spot by another region's Player of the Year as there are 8 regions and only five 1st Team spots, so there will be some Regional Players of the Year that can't make the 1st team.

It's also possible that a region could have 2 players named to the 1st team and in the case of the Northeast Region they have both that region's Player of the Year, Aaron Toomey, and another Northeast Region 1st Teamer, Michael Mayer, on the All America First Team and I can understand that reasoning. Sometimes two or more of the best players in the country come from the same region or sometimes even from the same team.

The D3 hoops First Team has 3 players that were their respective Regional Players of the Year. Aaron Toomey, Northeast Region, Aaron Walton-Moss, Mid-Atlantic Region, and Tyler Tillema, West Region. The 4th player is the above mentioned Michael Mayer who was also from the Northeast Region and the 5th player is Jared Suderley from the East Region. Jared was not the East Region Player of the Year. That honor went to John Ivy. So I'm trying to figure out why John would be considered by D3hoops as the top player in the region on March 17th  and yet a scant 5 days later not be considered as the top player in the region because obviously Jared Suderley has now been awarded that honor.

I'm not trying to belittle Jared Suderley's talents on the court. He had an outstanding career and I know he was named on prior AA teams. If he had been selected as the D3hoops East Region's Player of the Year last week I could have accepted that. I wouldn't agree with it, since I thought that John Ivy clearly had the best season and carried his team more than any other East region player, but I could have accepted it. I actually get to vote for one of the awards, for Regional teams, and I had Jared Suderley on my first team, but I had John Ivy as the Player of the Year. And apparently so didn't quite a few others since he's been named as the East Region Player of the year on every team that's been released. I'm fairly confident, and I know it's speculation but I feel that had John not been injured,  ending his season in the middle of February, Brockport would have been in the Elite Eight at the very least. 

Here's something that was mentioned on the NESCAC board where a little discussion broke out regarding the Rookie of the Year selection when D3hoops came out with their regional teams. A few posters were surprised that Duncan Robinson didn't get that honor. Some of the stats for him and the player that was chosen were compared and some lobbying was put forth and Mr. Coleman said trying to influence him wouldn't help the matter. The next day a poster asked "How can Duncan Robinson be in the running for National Rookie of the Year, when he didn't win Regional Rookie of the year?"  Pat's reply was: "Well, exactly, he really isn't. We do occasionally reorder people from the regional team based on playoff performance, though. And sometimes the coach of the year isn't one of the regional honorees."

That statement "we do occasionally reorder people from the regional team based on playoff performance" would leave the door open to leapfrog Jared Suderley over John Ivy if there were any playoff performances to consider. In this case there were none as Hartwick was already eliminated from postseason play when the regional teams were announced on the 17th. They lost their 1st round game to SUNY-Purchase 97-71 on March 7th. 

Which leaves me with the feeling that somehow John Ivy didn't get his due. And the fact that he didn't make the first team is rather disappointing. Finishing his career as the all time leading scorer in Brockport State history is a great accomplishment but the D3hoops First Team All America award would have been a nice touch. Fortunately he can claim that honor with his NABC First Team All America award but it would have been nice to win them both, especially after getting the  D3hoops Regional award. 

Of all the things you considered here, one thing that isn't mentioned is that they play different positions and in the end, we felt that Suderley ranked higher among frontcourt players than Ivy did among backcourt players. We always try to put out balanced teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 24, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
You're right Pat I didn't consider that. Sorry for the rant. I guess I can't argue with his placement. Darn it. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 25, 2014, 11:59:19 AM
It's OK -- I mean, it was a well-reasoned post, including research on what I'd said elsewhere regarding the process. Can't fault you for it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 25, 2014, 06:42:20 PM
Yeah, but I should have known that there weren't going to be 4 guards on a team. I mean I've known for years that D3hoops generally composes their AA teams team with 3 guards and 2 forwards, or 2 guards and 3 forwards, or 2guards, 2 forwards and a center, but it never even entered my thought processes. ::) I guess after watching John Ivy light up the court for 4 years from a variety of positions, including a heck of a high post player on occasion, I didn't think of him as a guard but as the primary offensive threat whenever he stepped on the court. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 26, 2014, 04:58:23 AM
The final D3hoops Top 25 poll was released on Tuesday and the East Region ended up with 4 teams receiving attention.

Morrisville State on the strength of their NCAA tournament run ended up in the #16 spot with 228 points. Just like last year the Mustangs got hot at the right time. 

Brockport State dropped in the final rankings from 11th down to the 22nd spot with 124 points. The triple overtime loss to Morrisville was the big hurt. With a healthy John Ivy I don't think this game is even close and as it was the Golden Eagles blew a 20 point 2nd half lead without John. Give Morrisville credit though they went on to defeat Hobart and Stockton. I'm pretty sure a full strength Brockport team would have done the same and may have even matched up better with Amherst than the Mustangs did.

Plattsburgh State finally made it into the Top 25 as they were placed in the #24 spot with 107 points. I'm fairly certain they were underrated all year long and I believe they should have ended up with a much higher ranking. The only two teams on the entire right side of the bracket that I was hoping to avoid were Amherst and Williams. I felt they could win a game against any of the others. They made it to the Sweet 16 and that was what I hoped for when the season began so I got my wish but the defending champs ended our season for the 2nd year in a row.


Hobart didn't crack the Top 25 but did receive 14 points in the Others Receiving Votes category which was good enough to put them in the #31 spot. The Statesmen concluded another fine year and managed to win a first round game over then ranked #21 Scranton, before falling to Moville.

Here's a link showing the complete final rankings of the Top 25:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2013-14/final

That concludes another outstanding basketball season that ended up as one of the best in recent memory for the SUNYAC. With 3 teams getting NCAA bids and a Sweet 16 berth for our conference, we've certainly set the bar high for next season.

Speaking of next season...I hope to post the personnel  that each of the SUNYAC teams will have returning next year. It's something I'll be working at, on a team by team basis and when I have it all put together I'll post it as one post. It'll probably take me a few weeks to put it all together.   
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 26, 2014, 08:35:37 AM
These were the Massey ratings of the SUNYAC teams and other East Region teams shortly after the start of the season on November 20th 2013. They are followed by the final Massey Ratings after the NCAA D3 Champion was crowned.

The SUNYAC started out the year as the 17th ranked conference in the country.


Nov 20.2013 Ratings:

#21    Cortland
#61    New Paltz
#69    Plattsburgh State
#85    Geneseo State
#87    Brockport State
#121  Buffalo State
#139  Oneonta State
#152  Oswego State
#229  Fredonia State
#269  Potsdam State

The rest of the East Region teams:


#56     NYU
#65     Nazareth
#72     Hobart
#96     St. John Fisher
#124   Stevens Tech
#135   Ithaca         
#138   Rochester
#143   Skidmore
#149   Hartwick
#159   Hilbert
#179   Clarkson
#188   Hamilton     
#190   RIT
#198   Medaille
#205   Morrisville State 
#216   Sage
#228   Utica College
#246   St Lawrence
#277   Bard
#287   Alfred
#297   Union
#300   Vassar
#301   RPI
#304   Wells
#333   Elmira
#366   Keuka
#368   SUNYIT
#387   Cazenovia
#389   Cobleskill
#390   Houghton
#393   D'Youville


Final Massey Ratings as of March 26th:

The plus or minus figure to the right is the difference in ranking from November until now.This shows the separation the top 4 schools, (they were the 4 semi finalists in the SUNYAC tournament and the top 4 seeds) had over the rest of the pack. All 4 of these schools had an abundance of juniors and seniors in their starting lineup. That experience was the difference. Brockport reached a high of #6 during the course of the season, Plattsburgh was as high as #11 and Geneseo reached #26.

The SUNYAC ended the season as the 12th ranked conference for a gain of 5 spots from the start of the season. We peaked at #9 in mid January. The overall non-conference record including a 2-3 record in the NCAA tournament was 46-29 for a .613 winning percentage. One of the YAC's better efforts in recent years.

#12    Brockport State                       +75
#13    Plattsburgh State                     +56
#36    Geneseo State                         +49
#106  Oswego state                           +46
#143  Buffalo State                            -56
#150  Cortland State                         -129
#168  Oneonta State                         -29
#294  New Paltz State                       -233
#327  Fredonia State                         -98
#329  Potsdam State                         -60

The rest of the East Region teams: 

Vassar was the biggest mover and their finish in the Liberty League was somewhat of a surprise. Alfred's upward movement mirrored their push for a playoff spot in the Empire 8 as they finished in 4th place and made the E8 tournament for the 1st time. Morrisville was a big gainer after their NCAA tournament success but their SOS and the NEAC conference's SOS held them back from a bigger gain.

Ithaca, Utica College, and Rochester probably didn't expect to have the disappointing season they went through. St John Fisher also came up short of pre-season expectations as they failed to make the E8 playoffs. This was obviously the year of the SUNYAC as they dominated the Regional Rankings from start to finish and received the only at large bids awarded to the East region for the NCAA tournament. We'll enjoy it while we can...next year could be the year of the E8 or Liberty league. Rochester will look to continue to rebuild and get back to being a force in the UAA once again.   

#67    Hobart                                    +5
#74    NYU                                        -18
#79    Nazareth                                 -14
#90    Stevens                                  +34
#114  St. John Fisher                         -18         
#115  Hartwick                                 +34
#132  Vassar                                    +168
#134  Morrisville State                      +71
#141  Skidmore                                +2
#152  Rochester                                -14
#153  Hamilton                                 +35
#156  Clarkson                                 +23
#170  Hilbert                                    -11
#171  Alfred                                     +116
#174  RIT                                        +16
#218  Medaille                                  -20
#244  SUNYIT                                  +124
#255  St. Lawrence                           -9
#260  Elmira                                    +73
#268  Union                                     +29
#278  Sage                                       -62
#317  RPI                                         -16
#328  Cobleskill                                +61
#331  Ithaca                                     -196
#338  Utica College                           -110
#374  Wells                                      -70
#380  Cazenovia                               +7
#383  Bard                                       -106
#385  Keuka                                     -19
#397  Houghton                                -7
#405  D'Youville                                -12     
                                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on March 26, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
m-man, I see you have Hamilton listed with your East Regions teams.  Whither?

And, to the rest of you guys on this board:  you are really lucky to have a guy who does all the heavy lifting, all the time.
And last, to Pat: he's going to get the last word in until you outlive him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 27, 2014, 02:35:23 AM
Quote from: middhoops on March 26, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
m-man, I see you have Hamilton listed with your East Regions teams.  Whither?

middhoops,

It's a retro thing. I know the Continentals are technically in the Northeast Region (I even had to correct nescac1 about that a short while ago on the NESCAC board) but I'm so used to Hamilton as an East Region team that I always look at them as such. After all, they are pretty much smack dab in the geographic center of the East Region. ;D

Thanks for the kind words. Plus K.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 27, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
Magicman...see you are busy as ever.   I fear on the Nescac board that it will only pause...before it takes off again. :).  If you feel under work...can come on over and impose your energy again on my board...maybe we can make you an " honorary " member.....do need independent observers and unbiased eyes on a very opinionated board that is often walking on a narrow path of verbal civility, IMO. :).  Me, I will look into the lacrosse board...women side...to ping Vandy on occasion.  He does "assist" the legendary Coach at Middlebury..as you may know...family business sort of.
It is interesting to me that all the Spring sports play many teams from all different  regions, in all different conferences and all different levels, etc......yet....when BB is discussed, one has unending discussions on the restrictions to schedule OCC games and then that impacts SOS and poll rankings, etc.   Oh well, if all things were even...it would be a little dull.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 27, 2014, 12:02:16 PM
Quote from: middhoops on March 26, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
m-man, I see you have Hamilton listed with your East Regions teams.  Whither?

And, to the rest of you guys on this board:  you are really lucky to have a guy who does all the heavy lifting, all the time.
And last, to Pat: he's going to get the last word in until you outlive him.

:) Not worried. He's a good guy. Let him talk -- that's what this is here for.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on March 31, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
Another Great season of Division 3 hoops! As a young kid i feel very happy that i am around these coaches and players who dedicate winter after winter to there teams! I love how Division 3 is a small community like atmosphere especially in the East Region. Was hoping Nazareth would be in the NCAAS and was Heartbroken that these seniors never won an Empire 8 championship or clinched a berth in the NCAA Tournament. Great years are coming with Coach Broderick at the helm.

Enjoyed chatting with everyone on the boards again this year!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 13, 2014, 04:40:17 PM
In the news that slipped by me recently. The honors continue to roll in for Coach Dunne. This one the biggest of all.

Greg Dunne from Brockport State was recently named as the winner of the  2014 Glenn Robinson Award which is presented annually to the National Coach of the Year. There were 12 finalists nominated from Division III schools and Greg was chosen as the winner and presented the award on April 4th during the Division I Final Four competition in Dallas Texas.

Nice to see a coach from the SUNYAC and the East Region grab that honor. Congratulations again Coach Dunne  on a great season.

Here's a link to the complete write up: http://www.gobrockport.com/news/2014/3/31/MBB_0331140308.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on July 02, 2014, 08:03:19 PM
http://coachrejbasketball.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/my-top-10-rules-to-landing-that-elusive-coaching-gig/ Coach Mike Rejniak new blog. Very insightful about coaching and D3Hoops! Take a Look!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on July 12, 2014, 02:01:40 AM
Former Cortland point guard Paul Morrissey Class of 1996 was on the Dave Letterman show on Thursday night July 10th. He had a pretty good routine and the audience along with Dave responded quite well to his jokes. He appears to have taken his ability on the hardwood (leading scorer on the team with 13.5 ppg, 4.3 apg, 45% from 3 point range, 82% from the line) and transferred it to comedy as he fired off one liners and jokes throughout his routine that all scored.

D3hoops had an article about his upcoming appearance. Here's the link:

http://d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/contrib/20140708jbp2hu   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on July 14, 2014, 02:39:58 PM
Magicman...nice to hear from you.  Hope the Summer finds you well.
Just want to let you know that the Associate WBB coach at Bowdoin has moved on to a head coach job....a position at another  conference school...it is on the conference website.  If you get any feedback from your source on the move...I would be interested.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on July 14, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
Hello amh63. Doing fine this summer. Saw the press releases on the Middlebury resignation and then the hire of the Bowdoin assistant. I sent you a personal message so check there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 07, 2014, 10:49:17 AM
Wondering where my friend from Buffalo is to :

A.  Tell me about the places I sent him to check on at Lake George and whether he did so and had fun.

B.  Wondering why he kept it a secret that my Plattsburgh State team is playing in an early season tournament at Buffalo State (due to a cancellation by some other team) and who our opponents might be since I know we will not be playing Buff State. Good old Coach Curle to the rescue it would appear. (Hope there are no non-DIII schools in the Coles Classic, which I assume is the tournament in question on the weekend of Friday and Saturday Nov 21st and 22nd. Our coming to the rescue of Buff State in this tournament may have cost us a home and home 2 year series with Amherst and the Lord Jeffs who were looking for an opponent to play on Feb 11th or 12th and would be willing to travel one year and have a return visit the next year. Unfortunately we no longer had a game open and couldn't take advantage of the opportunity. If the Bengals or any other SUNYAC team still have an open date you might want to give Coach Hixson a  call at Amherst. Here's the link to the  info:   http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=3699.75

C. Thought Buff State was a season opening tournament for us, but just discovered we open up on Saturday, Nov. 15th at the Lycoming, Pennslyvania, tournament against Elizabethtown and then face the winner/loser  of the Lycoming-Penn State-Schuylkill game on Sunday the 16th. I'm guessing it will be Plattsburgh State-Lycoming in the Championship game on Sunday at 3:00 PM. At least I hope it works out that way.

The Plattsburgh State schedule was released today with the exception of who we play in the Buff State tournament.  We play our final 2 SUNYAC games against Brockport and Geneseo in Plattsburgh on Feb. 20th and 21st. Something tells me that those 2 contests will go a long way in determining who wins the conference's top seed. I'm just glad they are here in Plattsburgh.   Here's the link to the Cardinals' schedule: http://www.gocardinalsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

Once again I won't get to see my Cardinals in action until the month of December. After the 2 opening weekend tournaments we play St. Lawrence over there on December 2nd and finally get a set of home games against conference foes New Paltz and Oneonta on the weekend of December 5th and 6th. Then a 25 day break until we travel to Keene State on 12-31, New Year's Eve. (I wonder who scheduled that game).Finally back home again to face traditional rival Middlebury on January 6th. Once again, as usual, the Cardinals come out on the short end of the stick with only 10 home games of their 25 regular season contests. And 6 of their 7 non conference games are on the road. Not real happy about this year's schedule.

Plattsburgh will be shooting for their 7th NCAA bid in the last 10 years. No other East Region team can make that claim. They are coming off a successful 26-4 record, a Sweet 16 trip and a final ranking in the D3hoops Top 25 poll. The Plattsburgh State coaching staff is hoping for another fine season and even though they lost 3 starters from last year's team,  several starters of 2 years ago who didn't play last season may be back with the team this year. The Cardinals figure to be deep and talented again this year. The success that Coach Tom Curle has experienced ever since his arrival at his alma mater in 2003 has been unparalleled and he will be seeking his 6th 20 win season in the past 9 years. Curle already holds the highest winning percentage of any Plattsburgh State coach and is the second longest serving head coach in the East Region trailing only RIT's Bob McVean in longevity     
 
The 27th edition of the Cardinal Classic golf tournament was held yesterday afternoon and once again it was a huge success. Foursomes galore turned out to support the Cardinals and a great time was had by all. Weather was superb, golf was so so (at least by my team but we won it last year so it was someone else's turn this year). The food was exceptional as the tournament is co-sponsored by Chartwells , the company that does the food service at  Plattsburgh State and is the finest meal put on by a golf tournament in the region with food and drinks both on the course during play and an outstanding dinner put on after the tournament on the shores of beautiful Lake Champlain.

This is the tournament I should have asked Brockport State Coach Dunne to come up and join in the festivities and be on my team. Next year I will make it a priority if it is good timing for him. If a certain Buffalo State supporter would get his rear in gear and take up this great game of golf I'd get him up here as well. He'll learn in time that there is not to many sports that you're still able to play half way decently at the age of 65 and older as the sport of golf. The sooner he learns that lesson the better off he will be.

Of Special note our congratulations to Bengals Coach Fajri Ansari for having July 25th named "Fajri Ansari Day" by Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown for the over 30 years of service Coach Ansari has provided to the Buffalo Community as an educator and a coach among other outstanding contributions he has made to the Queen city area. It's not often a city the size of Buffalo recognizes someone in a special manner as they have done for Coach Ansari. A well deserved honor indeed. I always look forward to the visit by Coach Ansari and his fine staff whenever they make their yearly visit to Plattsburgh.   
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 09, 2014, 01:28:38 AM
Wow.... I'm speechless (but I won't be tomorrow. )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 09, 2014, 08:02:13 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on August 09, 2014, 01:28:38 AM
Wow.... I'm speechless (but I won't be tomorrow. )

You speechless...that has to be a first!!!! Laryngitis doesn't stop your fingers from working on the keyboard. I better hear the 2 most important words I'm looking for and that would be the names of the other 2 teams in the Coles Classic tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 16, 2014, 02:22:56 AM
Cat didn't just get your tongue, he must have ripped it right out.

Point Park and Pine Manor. Wow..... Now the top 2 YAC teams of last year's out of conference schedule will now only have 5 teams that count instead of 7.

And Pine Manor??? I could have called up Joe Cardany, Mike Deane, AnthonyWilliams, Travis Gorham and myself and we would have been a better entry than Pine Manor. And Cardany is in his 50's and Deane and I are in our 60's.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2014, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on August 16, 2014, 02:22:56 AM
Cat didn't just get your tongue, he must have ripped it right out.

Point Park and Pine Manor. Wow..... Now the top 2 YAC teams of last year's out of conference schedule will now only have 5 teams that count instead of 7.

And Pine Manor??? I could have called up Joe Cardany, Mike Deane, AnthonyWilliams, Travis Gorham and myself and we would have been a better entry than Pine Manor. And Cardany is in his 50's and Deane and I are in our 60's.

Pine Manor will count -- what it will count for, I'm not sure, but they're a D-III program and will count (likely poorly) towards SOS, etc.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 18, 2014, 12:00:39 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2014, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on August 16, 2014, 02:22:56 AM
Cat didn't just get your tongue, he must have ripped it right out.

Point Park and Pine Manor. Wow..... Now the top 2 YAC teams of last year's out of conference schedule will now only have 5 teams that count instead of 7.

And Pine Manor??? I could have called up Joe Cardany, Mike Deane, AnthonyWilliams, Travis Gorham and myself and we would have been a better entry than Pine Manor. And Cardany is in his 50's and Deane and I are in our 60's.

Pine Manor will count -- what it will count for, I'm not sure, but they're a D-III program and will count (likely poorly) towards SOS, etc.

Thanks Pat,

I saw this will be their first year with a men's program. Are they in their 1st year of provisional status?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 19, 2014, 11:24:45 AM
No, Pine Manor is a full Division III member and has been for some time now. Provisional status only applies to a school entering Division III for the first time, not new programs fielded by that school.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on August 20, 2014, 09:07:04 AM
Magicman....I feel for you wrt the Pine Manor game, my friend.  I remember  the school as a junior college for ladies back in the dark ages when I was in school.  Brings back memories of my first college road trip....to Boston and Durgan Park...for the rude waitresses and huge plates of food.  Three freshmen from outside of New England.  On the way back we decided to take a side trip to a "Seven Sister" college...got lost in a snow storm...mild one...and ended up at Pine Minor College instead.  I digress.  Point is that I would rather have your team play Amherst instead of Pine Manor...would help both our schools' SOS.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 22, 2014, 03:08:38 AM
Quote from: amh63 on August 20, 2014, 09:07:04 AM
Magicman....I feel for you wrt the Pine Manor game, my friend.  I remember  the school as a junior college for ladies back in the dark ages when I was in school.  Brings back memories of my first college road trip....to Boston and Durgan Park...for the rude waitresses and huge plates of food.  Three freshmen from outside of New England.  On the way back we decided to take a side trip to a "Seven Sister" college...got lost in a snow storm...mild one...and ended up at Pine Minor College instead.  I digress.  Point is that I would rather have your team play Amherst instead of Pine Manor...would help both our schools' SOS.

A nice opportunity for both our schools has gone by the boards. I understand why we joined the Buffalo tournament, as they were left with a problem when several teams backed out of their commitment and our coach was trying to help them out.   I just wish the Amherst game had been announced a little earlier as there was a good chance we would have been playing each other this year and the next one. And as you said it would have been beneficial to both schools SOS. We will still get out annual battle with Middlebury and I expect the Panthers will be an improved team over last year's edition.

At least as Pat pointed out they are D-III which surprised me but as he stated probably won't count for much as they will no doubt be ranked in the high 300's or low 400's. 

I couldn't resist giving you a plus K to make it an even 350.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on September 04, 2014, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on August 16, 2014, 02:22:56 AM
Cat didn't just get your tongue, he must have ripped it right out.

Point Park and Pine Manor. Wow..... Now the top 2 YAC teams of last year's out of conference schedule will now only have 5 teams that count instead of 7.

And Pine Manor??? I could have called up Joe Cardany, Mike Deane, AnthonyWilliams, Travis Gorham and myself and we would have been a better entry than Pine Manor. And Cardany is in his 50's and Deane and I are in our 60's.

In your "60's" ???  This is 2014 not 1998!!! ;D

Originally had an empire 8 school scheduled that backed out via voice mail. Ergo Pine manor (which Coach Curle was fine with)! Card victories over Keene State (12/31) and Middlebury (1/6) should take care of any non-conference SOS rankings!

Everyone at Buff State is truly grateful that the Cards are in our tourney. Heck I might be able to convince Cam to come try his hand at the craps table and coach Curle may want to dabble in some poker (24 table poker room) at Seneca Niagara, the night before.  Invite is open. And if you show up too...........? What a weekend!! ;)


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on September 22, 2014, 11:28:39 AM

Anyone else take notice of conference and some N-C game starting times for 2014-15? Men to play before women. Evening games underway at 5:30
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 22, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: jdex on September 22, 2014, 11:28:39 AM

Anyone else take notice of conference and some N-C game starting times for 2014-15? Men to play before women. Evening games underway at 5:30

I found out about that around July. I think it will hurt the attendance at the Women's games since many people would go early to catch the 2nd half of the Women's games and then watch the Men's games. I'm not so sure that the crowd will hang around after the Men's game is over. It may also hurt the attendance at the Men's games since it may prohibit a number of fans from getting to the gym for the early tipoff. If you can't get there until 6:30 or 6:45 PM you missed so much of the action that people may just bag it. I think it will hurt attendance for both teams. I understand why they did it but don't think it's a good idea. I believe more people may just stay home and follow the action online.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on September 23, 2014, 12:19:01 PM

Agree.

Think this was tried years ago. One season as we recall. Was shortlived
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on September 24, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on September 22, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
Quote from: jdex on September 22, 2014, 11:28:39 AM

Anyone else take notice of conference and some N-C game starting times for 2014-15? Men to play before women. Evening games underway at 5:30

I found out about that around July. I think it will hurt the attendance at the Women's games since many people would go early to catch the 2nd half of the Women's games and then watch the Men's games. I'm not so sure that the crowd will hang around after the Men's game is over. It may also hurt the attendance at the Men's games since it may prohibit a number of fans from getting to the gym for the early tip off. If you can't get there until 6:30 or 6:45 PM you missed so much of the action that people may just bag it. I think it will hurt attendance for both teams. I understand why they did it but don't think it's a good idea. I believe more people may just stay home and follow the action online.

     Sadly enough, I think that Magicman is right. I hope that he is wrong, but in the past I know that the crowds at Buff State start to trickle in around 7/7:30 p.m.. I can't say I remember when this system was used before! Tuesday night, 5:30 tipoff vs Brockport just wont bring what it brought in the past. On the plus side, I gotta imagine that getting home from a road trip at Plattsburgh/Potsdam on Jan 31st at 10 pm, instead of 2 a.m.,  may be a plus for my beloved BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on September 24, 2014, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on September 24, 2014, 05:10:54 PM


  On the plus side, I gotta imagine that getting home from a road trip at Plattsburgh/Potsdam on Jan 31st at 10 pm, instead of 2 a.m.,  may be a plus for my beloved BENGALS!

Don't men's and women's teams travel together?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 24, 2014, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: jdex on September 24, 2014, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on September 24, 2014, 05:10:54 PM


  On the plus side, I gotta imagine that getting home from a road trip at Plattsburgh/Potsdam on Jan 31st at 10 pm, instead of 2 a.m.,  may be a plus for my beloved BENGALS!

Don't men's and women's teams travel together?

Most men's and women's teams do travel together, jdex, but the teams from the Queen City have separate buses. :o ;D  So Bengalsrule is right....they (the men from Buffalo State) will get home 3 to 4 hours earlier from their road trips than they used to. The rest of the SUNYAC schools won't get home any earlier though. It was Bengalsrule who first told me about the time change back in July. He didn't seem too happy about it then. ???

Since my post of the other day, I have been informed that a majority of the Men's coaches seem to be in favor of the switch to the early starting time and they feel it will be beneficial to their players. I've also been told that more families will attend the Men's game since it's earlier. Now the kids can get home and be in bed at a reasonable time.

I think attendance at both games will be affected in a negative manner despite what I was told. We shall see.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on September 25, 2014, 10:04:12 AM
Magicman....been following the topic a bit.  Nescac did the switching of men and women games a while back....in a rotation system.  Thought it was to improve the attendance at the games. I do not know if it helped the women's attendance.  I do know that more families with young children...little girls..show up for the women games...especially on the weekends.  I do not know if the games for the women will follow the men this season...no schedules...or the conference is still on a rotation system.
At Amherst there is no charge for games and the local community support the team's accordingly...social event.  For big rival games, it can be " brutal" to get a spot in the gym..even when more stands are added.
In short...it is/was? an experiment, IMO.  The best way to get fan support of teams is to provide a fine product...an enjoyable experience for both the players and fans.  Amherst has contracted with an commercial company to provide game webcasts this season.  Impact on live games attendance unknown...again it is not an monetary concern for the school or the conference.  A little info for you

Update....based on a posted Colby schedule....seems the men's game during the week starts around 7PM.  This indicate that the "experiment" maybe on hold or dropped..  Weekend games. Around 3-4 in the afternoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on September 25, 2014, 10:12:08 AM
Quote from: magicman on September 24, 2014, 07:16:40 PM
Quote from: jdex on September 24, 2014, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on September 24, 2014, 05:10:54 PM


  On the plus side, I gotta imagine that getting home from a road trip at Plattsburgh/Potsdam on Jan 31st at 10 pm, instead of 2 a.m.,  may be a plus for my beloved BENGALS!

Don't men's and women's teams travel together?

Most men's and women's teams do travel together, jdex, but the teams from the Queen City have separate buses. :o ;D  So Bengalsrule is right....they (the men from Buffalo State) will get home 3 to 4 hours earlier from their road trips than they used to. The rest of the SUNYAC schools won't get home any earlier though. It was Bengalsrule who first told me about the time change back in July. He didn't seem too happy about it then. ???

Since my post of the other day, I have been informed that a majority of the Men's coaches seem to be in favor of the switch to the early starting time and they feel it will be beneficial to their players. I've also been told that more families will attend the Men's game since it's earlier. Now the kids can get home and be in bed at a reasonable time.

I think attendance at both games will be affected in a negative manner despite what I was told. We shall see.     

   Wow, with that logic, the women's games should have been standing room only! "More families will attend"? I could understand for high school teams but most teams in SUNYAC have a vast majority of their players from other towns/cities (I think). At BSC families aren't our main crowd. Students and former teammates and coaches of current players and their families, make up the bulk of our attendees! heck many coaches volunteer their time after they finish their regular job. A 5:30 start will cause some to miss , or just make, the tip off! I guess getting extra time for a pre game warm up is another plus for going first (but the idea still sucks - IMHO)

   I must admit that the BENGALS Mens coaches (talked to a couple last night), are more appreciative of separate buses for Men's and Women's teams. There is nothing like getting back to Campus in Buffalo at 2 a.m. in a snowstorm and having to stand outside and wait for your ride to pick u up on campus (shiver)! At least at 10 p.m. you have a couple of local restaurants where one can sit in and wait. Plus  the wife should still be awake at 10 p.m. to come get you! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 12, 2014, 05:00:59 AM
Champ,
Sorry I couldn't talk with you for very long when you called me a few days ago. Had a store full of customers at the time and they were all in a hurry.

So you once again are the victim of another cancellation at the last minute. It hasn't been a good year for scheduling. My Cardinals finally got the 2 games they needed to fill their schedule after the Buff State tournament didn't work out. I was hoping we might get a home game out of the re-scheduled games but no such luck. To take the place of the 2 games we lost on 11-21 and 11-22 when the Coles Tournament was supposed to be played we end up with a game at Western Connecticut on 11-21 and then travel to Skidmore on 11-24. Plattsburgh will only play at home 10 times this season and 9 of those games are conference matchups.  The only non-conference game we have at home this year out of 7 non-con games is Middlebury.  At least that game, which should be our toughest non-conference game is the one that's at home. I'll be watching my Cardinals online a helluva lot more than I wanted to this year. We'll just have to win the regular season conference crown so I can get a couple of more home games. ;D 

So now Buffalo State goes to the Montclair State tournament thinking they will play two Division III opponents only to have one of them cancel out. And the replacement team, which you get to play in your first game, is Penn State-Mont Alto, a non DIII school. It just isn't your year I guess. Penn State-Mont Alto is a USCAA school that plays in the Penn State University Athletic Conference against all those other schools that have Penn State and a hyphen in their name. The good news is they were one of the better teams in that conference as they were 23-6 last year. They return 6 players from last year that account for 43.5 ppg of the 78.5 ppg that they averaged.

I dug deep into my magic bag for some links to give you these tidbits of statistics that you would have never found in a million years of searching.

Stats from last season which I challenge you to find anywhere:
http://www.psuacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/teams/pennstatemontalto?view=lineup

The roster from last season:  http://www.psumontaltoathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/roster

The posted roster from this season which is only showing the returning players at this time as the recruits and transfers aren't listed yet:   http://www.psumontaltoathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2014-15/roster

Hope this helps you with your scouting reports.

68 hours until practice can officially begin. 31 days and 68 hours until game day. I can't wait. 8-)

PS: Congratulations on the Bengals big win over Ithaca in football on Saturday. That will set up a huge game against St. John Fisher in a couple of weeks that could be for the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. I've got my fingers crossed.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 13, 2014, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 12, 2014, 05:00:59 AM
Champ,
Sorry I couldn't talk with you for very long when you called me a few days ago. Had a store full of customers at the time and they were all in a hurry.

PS: Congratulations on the Bengals big win over Ithaca in football on Saturday. That will set up a huge game against St. John Fisher in a couple of weeks that could be for the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. I've got my fingers crossed.       

Yes indeed. A big win for my BENGALS! After spending a few weeks over on the football boards I'm looking forward to the civil conversations that we have here at the 'Yac basketball site.

P.s I got married last Thursday! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 13, 2014, 03:04:30 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 13, 2014, 12:11:52 AM
P.s I got married last Thursday! ;)

WOW!!! That is BIG NEWS.    Congratulations, I imagine that Mrs. Bengalsrule is one happy lady.

Does last Thursday mean October 9th or was it Thursday October 2nd? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 13, 2014, 02:38:44 PM
10/9/2014 - 3 p.m. @ the Inn at Pocono Manor!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 17, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
The best day in October was Wednesday evening Oct. 15th as I got to see the Plattsburgh State Cardinals sweating their butts off on the first official day of practice. The Cardinals return a ton of talent and they are my pick to win the conference after consecutive back to back 2nd place finishes. They will be pressured by Geneseo, Brockport, and Oswego. Buffalo State, Oneonta, and Cortland could surprise depending on the returning players and new faces that may make an immediate impact. New Paltz, Potsdam and Fredonia will look to close the gap on the teams that have been in front of them for the past few seasons. Can't wait to see the rosters listed a few weeks down the road.

The Cardinals lost 3 starters from last year and yet they return 5 starters. (It's a Cardinal Conundrum) Not many teams in DIII can make that claim. 4 of those 5 starters have averaged double figures in scoring either last year or 2 years ago.

The Cardinals ended the year last season by advancing to the Sweet 16 despite the loss of key players down the stretch. They were ranked #24 in the final D3hoops poll and Massey had them ranked at #15 is his final poll. I believe that this year's team could be better than the NCAA teams of the past 2 years. I think they should be ranked in the DIII hoops pre-season poll based on their finish last year and the returning talent but I won't be surprised if they're omitted. Plattsburgh has made the NCAA tournament 6 times in the past 9 years which is more than any other team in the East Region. Coach Curle will once again have the problem of giving ample court time to so many talented players. Should be another excellent season in the SUNYAC and I hope the conference can duplicate the success it had last year when 3 teams made it to the NCAA tournament. In reality I'll be happy if we get 2 teams into the Dance. Good luck to all the players and teams.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 17, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
The best day in October was Wednesday evening Oct. 15th as I got to see the Plattsburgh State Cardinals sweating their butts off on the first official day of practice. The Cardinals return a ton of talent and they are my pick to win the conference after consecutive back to back 2nd place finishes. They will be pressured by Geneseo, Brockport, and Oswego. Buffalo State, Oneonta, and Cortland could surprise depending on the returning players and new faces that may make an immediate impact. New Paltz, Potsdam and Fredonia will look to close the gap on the teams that have been in front of them for the past few seasons. Can't wait to see the rosters listed a few weeks down the road.

The Cardinals lost 3 starters from last year and yet they return 5 starters. (It's a Cardinal Conundrum) Not many teams in DIII can make that claim. 4 of those 5 starters have averaged double figures in scoring either last year or 2 years ago.

The Cardinals ended the year last season by advancing to the Sweet 16 despite the loss of key players down the stretch. They were ranked #24 in the final D3hoops poll and Massey had them ranked at #15 is his final poll. I believe that this year's team could be better than the NCAA teams of the past 2 years. I think they should be ranked in the DIII hoops pre-season poll based on their finish last year and the returning talent but I won't be surprised if they're omitted. Plattsburgh has made the NCAA tournament 6 times in the past 9 years which is more than any other team in the East Region. Coach Curle will once again have the problem of giving ample court time to so many talented players. Should be another excellent season in the SUNYAC and I hope the conference can duplicate the success it had last year when 3 teams made it to the NCAA tournament. In reality I'll be happy if we get 2 teams into the Dance. Good luck to all the players and teams.       

Fear not oh Wise 1!   I predict that your Cards will be ranked 19 th in the first poll of 2014. They had one helluva season last year and I doubt that Curle is expecting any less from this years group. I can actually picture you in the gym yesterday just grinning away! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 17, 2014, 02:06:17 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 17, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
The best day in October was Wednesday evening Oct. 15th as I got to see the Plattsburgh State Cardinals sweating their butts off on the first official day of practice. The Cardinals return a ton of talent and they are my pick to win the conference after consecutive back to back 2nd place finishes. They will be pressured by Geneseo, Brockport, and Oswego. Buffalo State, Oneonta, and Cortland could surprise depending on the returning players and new faces that may make an immediate impact. New Paltz, Potsdam and Fredonia will look to close the gap on the teams that have been in front of them for the past few seasons. Can't wait to see the rosters listed a few weeks down the road.

The Cardinals lost 3 starters from last year and yet they return 5 starters. (It's a Cardinal Conundrum) Not many teams in DIII can make that claim. 4 of those 5 starters have averaged double figures in scoring either last year or 2 years ago.

The Cardinals ended the year last season by advancing to the Sweet 16 despite the loss of key players down the stretch. They were ranked #24 in the final D3hoops poll and Massey had them ranked at #15 is his final poll. I believe that this year's team could be better than the NCAA teams of the past 2 years. I think they should be ranked in the DIII hoops pre-season poll based on their finish last year and the returning talent but I won't be surprised if they're omitted. Plattsburgh has made the NCAA tournament 6 times in the past 9 years which is more than any other team in the East Region. Coach Curle will once again have the problem of giving ample court time to so many talented players. Should be another excellent season in the SUNYAC and I hope the conference can duplicate the success it had last year when 3 teams made it to the NCAA tournament. In reality I'll be happy if we get 2 teams into the Dance. Good luck to all the players and teams.       

Fear not oh Wise 1!   I predict that your Cards will be ranked 19 th in the first poll of 2014. They had one helluva season last year and I doubt that Curle is expecting any less from this years group. I can actually picture you in the gym yesterday just grinning away! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The Chesire Cat had nothing on me...The grin was from ear to ear. ;D  And I hope you're right with that #19 prognostication.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 22, 2014, 04:32:15 PM
For those who live and breath basketball, this video puts a lot in perspective!

Must see!

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2014/10/msj-hiram-move-game-for-lauren-hill
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2014, 12:04:09 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 17, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
I think they should be ranked in the DIII hoops pre-season poll based on their finish last year and the returning talent but I won't be surprised if they're omitted.

I believe you'll be correct, but not because I didn't try. I made multiple attempts to get preseason information from Plattsburgh and was unsuccessful.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 23, 2014, 01:07:01 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2014, 12:04:09 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 17, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
I think they should be ranked in the DIII hoops pre-season poll based on their finish last year and the returning talent but I won't be surprised if they're omitted.

I believe you'll be correct, but not because I didn't try. I made multiple attempts to get preseason information from Plattsburgh and was unsuccessful.

I believe that Magicman could possibly be the best Plattsburgh source there is! He should be able to give you whatever you, and d3hoops, need to help determine their preseason rankings.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2014, 01:42:22 AM
Well, it's up to the official source to provide official info on these things. It's not a fan-sourced production.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 23, 2014, 02:49:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2014, 12:04:09 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 17, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
I think they should be ranked in the DIII hoops pre-season poll based on their finish last year and the returning talent but I won't be surprised if they're omitted.

I believe you'll be correct, but not because I didn't try. I made multiple attempts to get preseason information from Plattsburgh and was unsuccessful.

Wish I'd have known that Pat, I would have done my best to make it happen. The Cardinals should be better than they were last year. 16 players on a roster that is loaded with talent. I went to practice on Tuesday night after the Coach had made his cuts. Eleven returning lettermen, includes 5 players who have seen ample time as starters over the past several years. Two of those players missed all or most of last year but started the previous year and averaged double figures at that time. Four players on this year's team have averaged double figures either last year, the previous year or the last 2 years.  New faces include a DII transfer Kyle Richardson, who is a 6'5" forward and will push hard to crack the starting lineup as well. Tyler Coppin-Carter transfers in also and will provide help in the backcourt. Freshman shooting guard Tim Smith arrives from Australia and Freshman Zack Coleman is also expected to play an important role as the back-up point guard. The Cardinals could start any mix of 10 players and not miss a beat. Coming off back to back 20 win seasons, Plattsburgh will be looking to win the SUNYAC tournament after falling just short in the past 2 years. Their 25 game schedule only has them home for 10 games. They open the season November 15th against Elizabethtown at the Lycoming Tip Off Tournament and won't have a home game until December 5th.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 23, 2014, 11:36:01 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 23, 2014, 02:49:10 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2014, 12:04:09 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 17, 2014, 01:51:23 AM
I think they should be ranked in the DIII hoops pre-season poll based on their finish last year and the returning talent but I won't be surprised if they're omitted.

I believe you'll be correct, but not because I didn't try. I made multiple attempts to get preseason information from Plattsburgh and was unsuccessful.

Wish I'd have known that Pat, I would have done my best to make it happen. The Cardinals should be better than they were last year. 16 players on a roster that is loaded with talent. I went to practice on Tuesday night after the Coach had made his cuts. Eleven returning lettermen, includes 5 players who have seen ample time as starters over the past several years. Two of those players missed all or most of last year but started the previous year and averaged double figures at that time. Four players on this year's team have averaged double figures either last year, the previous year or the last 2 years.  New faces include a DII transfer Kyle Richardson, who is a 6'5" forward and will push hard to crack the starting lineup as well. Tyler Coppin-Carter transfers in also and will provide help in the backcourt. Freshman shooting guard Tim Smith arrives from Australia and Freshman Zack Coleman is also expected to play an important role as the back-up point guard. The Cardinals could start any mix of 10 players and not miss a beat. Coming off back to back 20 win seasons, Plattsburgh will be looking to win the SUNYAC tournament after falling just short in the past 2 years. Their 25 game schedule only has them home for 10 games. They open the season November 15th against Elizabethtown at the Lycoming Tip Off Tournament and won't have a home game until December 5th.         

Hmmm. Sounds like a top 20 pre season ranking to me!  Come on Pat. The 'Yac had 3 go to the dance last year and 2, Brockport (#22)and Plattsburgh (#24) finish in the top 25. Unless the rankings are already done (sounds like that may be the case) there has got to be a way to give the Cards a second look! Plus my beloved BENGALS would be  facing a ranked team on Jan 10th, just brings a little bit more - - - (fill in blank) to the game! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2014, 12:26:09 PM
Already done, and already posted on the front page of D3hoops.com when you made this last comment. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 23, 2014, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 23, 2014, 12:26:09 PM
Already done, and already posted on the front page of D3hoops.com when you made this last comment. :)

  Ouch. #42  Plattsburgh??  :o  Oh well it is what it is! :(. I guess having Brockport and Geneseo also listed in the top 42 makes a decent statement for the 'Yac! At least Pat tried to get some info before these rankings were determined. Something tells me that next year someone in the north country will be sure that Pat Coleman gets a response sooner than later. Hopefully 3 'Yac schools get invited to the dance again this season (and not exactly these 3 schools  :) ).

Thanks for the heads up Pat!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 23, 2014, 08:27:16 PM
The preseason poll has 3 teams from the SUNYAC which may be the 1st time that has ever happened. Too bad that D3hoops didn't get any requested info from Plattsburgh State. Knowing a fair amount about the teams in the Top 25, I really feel that Plattsburgh State belongs in the Top 16. MIT, a team that we beat handily in the NCAA's last year is ranked #16. Eastern Connecticut, another team we beat in the NCAA's is ranked 36th with 37 points to the Cardinals' 11 points. Plattsburgh has more returning talent than either of these teams. The Cardinals will just have to prove they are one of the Top 25 teams in the country as they did last year. Hopefully it won't take until the final poll this season. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 23, 2014, 11:59:03 PM
Something tells me that the "magic 1" does not like the preseason poll. It should be comforting to know that probably half ( or better ) of last years pre season teams didn't make the final poll. That's the 1 that counts the most!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 01, 2014, 04:11:46 PM
Guess what day it is?  It's opening day of the season....sort of.  Plattsburgh State has an exhibition game at 5 PM this evening against Bishop's University out of Sherbrooke, Quebec. Bishop's will visit Memorial Hall to take on the Cardinals in what should prove to be a decent matchup.

Bishop's University is nicknamed the Gaiters and they have already played 5 exhibition games as they started back on October 3rd. While the Gaiters are 0-5 in those games they recently hosted WPI who is ranked #12 in the D3hoops Top 25  preseason poll. They lost to WPI by a score of 56-54. WPI was 22-5 last year and won the regular season NEWMAC title over Babson, Springfield College and MIT. They went to the NCAA tournament last year, as did the other 3 teams in the NEWMAC that finished behind them. WPI returns a ton of talent from last year and that was the reason for their lofty preseason ranking. Bishop's proved to be a good test as the Engineers were taken right down to the final buzzer.

Bishop's plays in a tough University Division conference in Canada and last year came in 2nd to the McGill University Redmen. McGill, by the way, defeated Division 1 Siena College 74-72 last fall in an exhibition as Siena went north to Canada for a 3 game excursion. In the past 4 years McGill has gone 4-5 in 9 games against D1 schools from the States.

Bishop's returns a number of starters from last year's team and they feature a 6'10" center, a 6'11" forward and a 6'9" forward. All 3 players are 5th year students so they're older than the seniors from the Cardinals. Interesting to note that the Gaiters lost that game to WPI, but their leading scorer and rebounder, Mike Andrews, the 6'10" center didn't play in that game. One of their top guards also missed that game.

This could be one of the best matchups of the season for the Cardinals despite the fact that it's an exhibition game. With only 10 home games this year for the Cards, I was willing to go and watch them play somebody's JV team to get my hoop fix. This is better than I could have hoped for. Now if we can only get a W.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 04, 2014, 09:25:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 01, 2014, 04:11:46 PM
Guess what day it is?  It's opening day of the season....sort of.  Plattsburgh State has an exhibition game at 5 PM this evening against Bishop's University out of Sherbrooke, Quebec. Bishop's will visit Memorial Hall to take on the Cardinals in what should prove to be a decent matchup.

Bishop's University is nicknamed the Gaiters and they have already played 5 exhibition games as they started back on October 3rd. While the Gaiters are 0-5 in those games they recently hosted WPI who is ranked #12 in the D3hoops Top 25  preseason poll. They lost to WPI by a score of 56-54. WPI was 22-5 last year and won the regular season NEWMAC title over Babson, Springfield College and MIT. They went to the NCAA tournament last year, as did the other 3 teams in the NEWMAC that finished behind them. WPI returns a ton of talent from last year and that was the reason for their lofty preseason ranking. Bishop's proved to be a good test as the Engineers were taken right down to the final buzzer.

Bishop's plays in a tough University Division conference in Canada and last year came in 2nd to the McGill University Redmen. McGill, by the way, defeated Division 1 Siena College 74-72 last fall in an exhibition as Siena went north to Canada for a 3 game excursion. In the past 4 years McGill has gone 4-5 in 9 games against D1 schools from the States.

Bishop's returns a number of starters from last year's team and they feature a 6'10" center, a 6'11" forward and a 6'9" forward. All 3 players are 5th year students so they're older than the seniors from the Cardinals. Interesting to note that the Gaiters lost that game to WPI, but their leading scorer and rebounder, Mike Andrews, the 6'10" center didn't play in that game. One of their top guards also missed that game.

This could be one of the best matchups of the season for the Cardinals despite the fact that it's an exhibition game. With only 10 home games this year for the Cards, I was willing to go and watch them play somebody's JV team to get my hoop fix. This is better than I could have hoped for. Now if we can only get a W.   

Any report from the game? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 04, 2014, 09:36:15 PM
Nevermind!!

http://www.gocardinalsports.com/news/2014/11/1/MBB_1101140837.aspx?path=mbball
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 09, 2014, 12:45:28 PM
1. Oswego State Big freshman class with a lot of talent and a bunch of key returnees look for the lakers to be an NCAA Tournament team at the end of the years
2. Plattsburgh State returns most of its guys off an NCAA Tournament team and a transfer
3. Geneseo Returns key players like Gordon Lyons, Andy Drescher and James McKenna off of an NCAA Tournament team
4. Oneonta who returns one of its best players Zach Mager and the red dragons look to have a big year.
5. Brockport after a huge year and losing a lot of seniors, they bring in a loaded freshman class. If they can learn to play together the Golden Eagles could make it interesting in the SUNYAC.
6. Buffalo State who returns Rod Epps and Chris Thompson look to make the SUNYAC Tournament.
7. Cortland who looks to have another rebuilding year and contend for a spot in the SUNYAC Tournament
8. Potsdam looks to win some more games off of a 5-20 campaign
9. New Paltz looking to win some more games and try move up the ladder in the SUNYAC
10. Fredonia who is improving with Coach Seymour and hopes to move up the ladder in the SUNYAC as well.
10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2014, 04:28:33 AM
Bengalsrule,

Meant to do a report a couple of days ago but other things got in the way. Heck of a game on Saturday Nov. 1st...probably one of the best I'll see in Memorial Hall all year long.  Bishop's was a very tall team, as I mentioned in my previous post and they started the 6'11" forward and the 6'9" forward. The 6'10" center, Mike Andrews, their leading scorer from last year, who missed the WPI game, was dressed and I thought he was going to play. Just before warm-ups I had a chance to talk to him and he said he was cleared to play but they were going to keep him out to be on the safe side. Their conference play started this week and they didn't want to take any chances. Their top 3 point shooter, who also missed the WPI game, Jona Bermillo, did play and was the games' leading scorer with 15 points, as he was 5x9 from long distance. Plattsburgh's leading scorer for the past 2 years has been Shamoy McIntosh. He also didn't play in the game as he had a minor injury and was held out for precautionary reasons.

The game got off to a good start for the Gaiters as they looked like they might be too much for the Cards to handle, but Plattsburgh soon found their rhythm and after falling behind 8-0 in the first 2 minutes of the game they finally got on the board and closed to with 13-9 with 12 minutes left in the half. The Cardinals then reeled off 10 straight points fueled by Ezra Hodgson's short jumper and 3 pointer in a little over 2 minutes to grab the lead 19-13 and they were never headed after that. Xavier Thomas had the first of his 3 dunks in the game to put the Cardinals up 21-16 and Plattsburgh's lead fluctuated between 3 and 6 points until the end of the half. The Cards took a 33-27 advantage into the break. Hodgson with 7 points, Mike Mitchell with 5 points and Alan Siergiej with 5 points and 5 rebounds in 5 minutrs of work led he Cardiunals in the first half. 8 players broke into the scoring column.

The 2nd half featured the scoring of X-Man Thomas and Kyle Richardson along with the inside work of Reggie Williams. Those 3 accounted for all the Cardinal points that led to a 51-37 14 point Cardinal lead after 9 minutes of play in the 2nd period. Up by 7 at 41-34, Williams got loose inside for a layup, Richardson nailed a 3 pointer, followed by another 3 pointer from Thomas. Eddie Correa then tried his hand at a triple but it bounced out and into the hands of Thomas, who, with a perfectly timed leap to the rim, grabbed and jammed the ball home in one move, bringing the Memorial Hall crowd to its feet. It was one of the best moves the old gym has ever seen. After Bishop's cut into the lead Richardson hit another 3 pointer to restore the edge to 14 at 54-40. Bishop's hit a 3 pointer but Jordan Moody countered with a 3 for the Cardinals and when Bishop's Jona Bermillo hit another 3, Moody was there to counter that one as well. With 7:27 left to play the Cards were still on top by 14 points with a 60-46 lead. Bishop's, however, went on a 10-0 run of their own helped out by several Cardinals turnovers and missed field goals and with 5:14 left in the game the score was 60-56 and the lead was only 4 points. Ezra Hodgson hit a jumper and after Bermillo hit his 5th 3 pointer for Bishops, to cut the lead to 3, Thomas once again soared to the rim for another dunk and was fouled on the play. His made free throw gave the Cards a 65-59 lead but Bishops came back to make it a 1 point game at 65-64. Richardson then made the first of 2 great game saving plays in the final 35 seconds of the game. Leading by that 65-64 score, the Cards Ed Correa with 33 ticks left, attempted a 3 point shot that bounced off the rim and was headed out of bounds until Richardson raced after it and backhanded the ball out to the top of the key where Mike Mitchell was able to corral it. Mitchell was fouled by Bishops and went to the line for a 1&1 free throw. Mitchell missed the front end but Richardson was johnny on the spot once more as he grabbed the rebound and passed it out to Mitchell, who was fouled again with 23 seconds left. This time he made them both and the Cards had to withstand 3 attempts from long distance by Bishop's to walk off with the 67-64 win.

Thomas led the Cardinals with 14 points (6x10 fg, 1x2 3's) 6 rebounds and 2 steals in 23 minutes. Richardson had 11 points (4x7 fg, 2x5 3's) and 6 rebounds in 22 minutes. He also had 3 assists, 2 blocks and 2 steals. Jordan Moody had 10 points (4 x6 fg, 2x3 3's), 3 rebounds, 5 steals, 2 assists and a block in 25 minutes. Ezra Hodgson had 9 pts. (4x10 fg, 1x2 3's) and 5 rebounds in 29 minutes. Reggie Williams had 7 pts (3x6 fg), 7 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal in 24 minutes. Mike Mitchell has 7 pts, and 2 assists in 27 minutes. Alan Siergiej had 5 pts (2x5 fg) and 5 rebounds in 5 minutes.

Overall this was a nice win by Plattsburgh against a team of scholarship players who had a number of 5th year seniors that were 25 or 26 years old. 

Edit: Just found out that Bishop's opened their regular season on Saturday night at McGill University. McGill was the winner of their conference regular season and playoff titles last year. They were once again expected to battle Bishop's for conference supremacy. Bishop's found themselves trailing 59-57 with just seconds remaining. Their 6'11' forward drained a 3 pointer with 12 ticks on the clock and the Gaiters beat the McGill Redmen 60-59. Nice start for Bishop's to beat the reigning champs.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 10, 2014, 07:49:23 AM
Magicman posting at 4:28am?  Good to see u r in mid season form!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2014, 01:56:20 AM
Several weeks ago on Oct. 25th, Plattsburgh State scrimmaged Division II St. Michael's College. The Cardinals beat St Mike's on the road by 5 points in a game that was in the mid 60's. Over the weekend on Saturday, St Michael's, located in Burlington Vt. played Division I University of Vermont in UVM's Patrick Gymnasium and beat the Catamounts by a score of 63-61.

Also on Saturday Nov. 8th Plattsburgh State scrimmaged Clarkson College in Plattsburgh and they beat the Golden Knights by a 62-46 score. Plattsburgh got solid contributions from their entire 10 man rotation.

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2014, 02:39:44 AM
Some big news over the weekend made by the Oswego State Lakers but don't try and find it on the Oswego website because there is nary a word written about it. Oswego played the Division I Binghamton University Bearcats in an exhibition game in Binghamton on Friday night Nov. 7th and nearly walked out of the Bearcats Event Center with a victory. The Lakers gave the Bearcats all they could handle before losing the exhibition contest 75-74.

I think the SID at Oswego or someone in the athletic department thinks that this game was a scrimmage rather than an exhibition. Normally schools don't do a press release when 2 teams have a scrimmage but almost always issue a press release if the game is an exhibition. Oswego doesn't even list it on their schedule yet Binghamton listed it and then had a write up about the game. Here's the link to the story: http://www.bubearcats.com/index.php/news/show/mens_basketball_in_action_friday_night_at_home

I'm surprised that our young friend DCahill who has already picked Oswego State to win the SUNYAC conference in 3 posts before this one, wasn't falling all over himself trying to get a post written about this outstanding showing by the Lakers.

Even more amazing is that the Lakers nearly pulled off this upset and they didn't have the services of their outstanding point guard Brian Sortino. Also missing from the lineup was rotation player Keith Tyson and last year's starter Mark Candelario only logged 4 minutes of floor time. Elijah McLaurin another solid backcourt player also missed the game. Sophomore newcomer Dustin Pond had 11 points and 4 rebounds in 21 minutes off the bench...impressive!! Kyle Covley with 20 points (8x15 fg, 4x7 3's) and Matt Crockett with 12 points (4x8 fg, 4x8 3's) led the charge for Oswego. Guard Walter Sampson sparkled with 9 points and 10 assists. The Lakers hit 15 of 26 attempts from behind the arc. That'll keep you in quite a few games.

One thing I almost forgot to mention...Binghamton went to the foul line 35 times and made 26 of those attempts. And Oswego??? Well they got to go to the line 5 times and made 3 of their attempts. All 5 free throws were taken by the same player Walter Sampson. Hard to believe that no other Oswego player was fouled in the act of shooting in the entire game. Oswego was whistled for 28 fouls and Binghamton only had 12 personals called on them. Hard to beat a DI team with an inequity in that category of that magnitude.   

Here's a link to the box score as well.  http://www.bubearcats.com/sports/mbask/bing-oswego.pdf

I'm not going to let Mr. Cahill get off the hook on this one. He should have been all over this story. :o ::) Good thing I'm keeping track of YOUR Lakers Derrick. ;D       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2014, 01:14:40 PM
D3hoops has released their 2014-15 preseason men's All-America team. Gordon Lyons from Geneseo State is the only player from the East Region to gain that honor as he was listed as a forward on the 2nd team. Here's a link to the complete list of preseason picks:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2015

I've got a pretty good feeling that Mr. Lyons will be on the year ending list of  All-American players as well.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2014, 02:54:13 PM
The SUNYAC is off and running with 7 teams in action on the opening day of the 2014-15 Hoops season.

Here are the games for Saturday, Nov. 15th.

Rhode Island College  vs  Brockport State        1:30 PM   
@ Marymount

This is a hard game to pick. Brockport lost a lot of talent including All American, John Ivy, and All Conference, Brandon Caruthers, their starting backcourt. They also lost 2 starting forwards, Matt Lee and Dorian Hayden. In addition they lost two of their best bench players which included 6'11" Patrick Coyle, who was their top rebounder and shot blocker, along with guard Bobby Bell, who averaged 18 minutes per game. They return starting center Olusola Adeniran along with promising sophomores Clifton Lyerly and Aaron White, but 57 points per game are gone with the loss of the 6 seniors that graduated. Coach Greg Dunne will need to once again pull a few rabbits out of his hat, but if anyone can pull off some magic tricks, Coach Dunne, the reigning National Coach of the Year, should be able to do so. It could take some time for the new players to learn Dunne's system, though and in the meantime the team could struggle. I think this game against Rhode Island will be one of those struggles. The Anchormen lost some top talent, like Brockport, through graduation, and also lost a top notch coach when Bob Walsh left to coach Division I University of Maine. The Anchormen return 3 starters however off a team that had 20 wins last year. I'd like to think that Coach Dunne can outcoach a rookie in his first year as a head coach but the Rhode Island coach, Mike Byrnes, has been an assistant at DI Robert Morris and was a very successful prep school coach for a number of years as well.
The oddsmakers have installed Brockport as an 8 point favorite but I think that Rhode Island will come away with a narrow victory by a 75-71 score.  But I sure hope I'm wrong on this one.         


   
SUNY-Canton    vs   Fredonia State        2:00 PM   
@ Allegheny

The Blue Devils are once again headed for a long season. If they can't get by the Canton Kangaroos it will get even longer. The Roos almost took down Potsdam State in their season opener last year, so being competitive against Fredonia shouldn't be a problem. The Blue Devils won 6 games last year and I don't see many more than that in the win column this year. This is one of the 6 or so they can win but it should be a close game. The Blue Devils win it by a 67-62 score. 

   
Hamilton at New Paltz State        4:00 PM

These teams played each other last year and the Hawks came away with a 75-69 win. It was one of only 6 wins New Paltz managed to capture despite the fact they opened the season by winning their first 2 games against Redlands and Whittier on the west coast. The Hawks return everyone except 2 players and have added 9 new faces. They should show a slight improvement  on last years record. Hamilton lost 3 players to graduation but the biggest loss was leading scorer Matt Hart who transferred from Hamilton to Division I George Washington University. Hart was one of the top scorers in the country averaging over 20 ppg  and was the top 3 point threat that Hamilton had, shooting over 41% from downtown. The Continentals have lost over 60% of their points and will need a lift from last year's bench players to pick up the slack. The oddsmakers have Hamilton winning this game by a 3 point margin. Homer that I am, I think it could be a 3 point margin, but I'll take New Paltz to win this one by a 69-66 final.
   
Morrisville State  vs  Potsdam State        5:00 PM   
@ Clarkson    North Country Classic Tournament

Morrisville made it to the quarterfinals of the NCAA tournament last year and lost to Amherst for a chance to make the Final Four. Potsdam won a grand total of 5 games last year and the future doesn't look much better. However Morrisville, who received votes in the preseason Top 25 poll, lost almost their entire team. (I'm wondering what those voters saw in the Mustangs that merited Top 25 points)   They only return 3 players from last years' squad and 2 of those players barely got off the bench all year long. Potsdam returns quite a bit losing only 3 seniors so despite the fact that the oddsmakers have made Morrisville a 9 point favorite I'll take the Bears to pull off a the upset here, 71 to 68.

   
Medaille at Buffalo State        7:00 PM

Usually a close game when these Queen City rivals get together. Medaille returns the AMCC conference preseason Player of the Year in Jammal Coleman but the Mavericks lost their 6'8" center, and another one of their top rebounders. The Bengals have 7 new faces on the roster but they should win the battle of the boards and are more athletic than the Mavericks. Rod Epps and Chris Thompson will be hard for Medaille to contain. Bengals win this matchup by an 82-72 final score. 



   
Plattsburgh State  vs  Elizabethtown        8:00 PM   
Dutch Burch Tip-Off @ Williamsport, Pa.

Both teams return a ton of talent. The difference is Plattsburgh returns a ton of talent from a team that went 24-6 last year. Elizabethtown  returns their talent from a team that went 8-17.  Still this matchup should be the best game in the Lycoming Tournament. I think the Cardinals are more athletic, deeper, and will control the tempo of this game.  I believe Plattsburgh will walk off the court with the W and can see them placing 4 guys in double figures with their balanced offense. The final score should be something like 76-67.

Elmira at Oswego State  8:00 PM

Forgot about this game but Oswego should have a relatively easy time with Elmira  The final score should be something like 75-60 and it could be worse if all the players that didn't play in the exhibition against Binghamton suit up for this game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 14, 2014, 03:31:17 PM
Knock knock knock....! That's the 'Yac at the door letting everyone know that in less than 24 hours, the 2014-15 season will begin!

THE BEST IS YET TO COME!!

   With that thought in mind, and the BENGALS preparing to take the court vs. crosstown rival Medaille tomorrow night at 7, I thought that i'd jot down a few things about my beloved BENGALS! First and foremost is the return of 2nd leading scorer Rod Epps (15.5 pts per game). If there was any way to describe how Rod, and the BENGALS squad, has looked this pre-season it would be "The Best is yet to come" (from several BENGAL observers!) Many feel that Rod is poised to lead the BENGALS to a considerably better record than last years 12-13 (8-10 conf). The 3rd leading scorer (9.7) and 2nd best rebounder (7.0), Chris Thompson,  looks quicker and stronger than last years version. 1 observer says that the 6'5 senior should be 1 of the best big men in the conference if he continues to play like he has so far this pre season. Both he and Rod can count on junior Bradley Doyley (5'11") to get them the ball! Bradley was 2nd in assists and 1st in Turnover to assist ratio but got no love from the 'Yac voters  last season >:(. Sophomores Jordan Glover (6'2") , Rey Jordan (5'11") and Lovell Smith (6'2") all contributed healthy minutes last season. Undoubtedly more will be expected of them as 2014-15 season begins tomorrow. Returning sophomore Sean Buckley (6'7" and growing) has the potential to be a consistent contributor!

  The newcomers this year is what has many at 1300 Elmwood all abuzz!! Lets start with junior Derrick Fernandez. This lightening quick guard should immediately compete for playing time in the crowded BENGAL backcourt! Wing men Justin Best and Kevin Marmolejos present unique threats from the wing, with their quickness and strength. Frontcourt players Larry Rivers, Luke Jenkins and Akeem Williams give the BENGALS the most size that it has had in years! Add Leon Moise (6'8") (who returns to the BENGALS after a 1 year absence) and you can see why many BENGAL faithful are as giddy with excitement,  as a kid is on Xmas Eve!

  Personally, I cant wait till tomorrow night. Medaille is less than 2 miles from Buff State so its a natural rivalry that has grown over the years. last years game at Medaille went down to the wire with the BENGALS winning 87-82. Many feel that this 1 wont be as close but that's why they PLAY THE GAME! Rumor has it that Santa may have some more gifts in his bag for my BENGALS, but I don't believe in Santa so lets get this season underway!!!

Lets go BENGALS!!!!! :) ;) ;D


(edited to add...)
Dammit...I hate it when i post at the same time Magicman does!!!! >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
Hey my friend,

You didn't post at the same time I did....you posted 37 minutes after I did. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 15, 2014, 01:07:38 AM
Ha Magic.  Your a SUNY guy and pegged Brockport to lose.  I'm the LEC guy and pegged Brockport to win   :o  At least one of us will be happy at 3 or so tomorrow afternoon  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2014, 02:09:16 AM
Quote from: 7express on November 15, 2014, 01:07:38 AM
Ha Magic.  Your a SUNY guy and pegged Brockport to lose.  I'm the LEC guy and pegged Brockport to win   :o  At least one of us will be happy at 3 or so tomorrow afternoon  ;D

Earlier, I saw your post of the games, 7 and I thought I was going to agree with you, but I think that Rhode Island returns more than the Golden Eagles do. It was the toughest game for me to pick and I hope I'm wrong and you're right. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2014, 06:45:58 PM
The first result of the year is in and it's not good news for the YAC.

As I suspected the Rhode Island Anchormen proved to be a stiff test for Brockport as they defeated the Golden Eagles 72-62. I had projected a Rhode Island win by a 75-71 margin. I wanted to be wrong with my prediction, but I think it will take time for Coach Dunne to get all the new faces and new starters to put it together.

Never did get the live stats between Brockport and Rhode Island but got the results off the Brockport website.

Brockport had the early lead and went up 17-9 which was the Golden Eagles largest advantage but the Anchormen came back with a 13-0 run to go in front 22-17 with 6:32 left in the half. Rhode Island was never headed after that. They went into the break up 32-28 and a pair of free throws to open the 2nd period boosted the lead to 6 points. The Golden Eagles did tie the game up at 34 apiece but the Anchormen went on another 7-0 spurt and the closest that Brockport could get the rest of the way was 4 points. Rhode Island opened up a 57-44 lead, the largest of the game by either team with 6:40 left to play. Brockport came fighting back and got it to within 4 points once again after a pair of 3 pointers by Clifton Lyerly with 4:56 to go but the Anchormen hit 10 of 11 free throws down the stretch to thwart any hope of a Brockport comeback.

The Golden Eagles were led by Lyerly with 21 points. Danny Aiello with 10 points was the only other player in double figures for the Eagles. Port got killed off the boards losing that battle 43-26 and Rhode Island scored 30 points in the paint to 20 for Brockport. There's the 10 point difference in the score.

Rhode Island got a big game from 6'6" forward Chris Burton with 21 points and 13 rebounds. This guy was the reason I thought Rhode Island might win the game as he was their best returning player. Another returning 6'6" player that averaged double digits last year, Victor Smith, didn't play in this game. Senior Patrick Matthews who transferred into the program this year had an excellent first game for the Anchormen with 16 points and 7 rebounds off the bench. Point guard Eric Alleyne had 11 points, 7 rebounds and 5 assists. Brockport will face off against Roanoke College tomorrow afternoon at 1:30 PM. Roanoke lost to host Marymount today by an 86-57 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2014, 07:03:44 PM
Another score:

Canton defeated Fredonia State 80-72. Going to be a long year for the Blue Devils if you're losing to a provisional D3 school. Haven't seen a box score yet.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 15, 2014, 08:28:25 PM
Potsdam Started out ugly, down 0-14 and 2-19 to a reloaded Morrisville Squad.  Freshman Tishsean Emmanuel [Brooklyn NY/Nazareth] explodes for 15 second half points, and the Bears eke out a 64-61 win, only leading for the last two minutes.

More detail later, [stats not up yet] game at Clarkson, and they have a second game/ D-I Hockey and a women's volleyball team in NCAA tournament.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2014, 09:25:12 PM
Plattsburgh State with a comfortable 43-28 halftime lead over Elizabethtown at the break. The Cardinals were led by Ezra Hodgson who was a perfect 4x4 from the field including a pair of 3 pointers to reach double figures. Ezra was also one of 3 Cardinal players to grab 4 rebounds in the half. Jordan Moody who came off the bench to hit 4 of 5 shots from the field also scored 10 points with 3 quick moves to the hoop, for a pair of layups and a dunk. He also hit a triple. With the score 15-12 in favor of the Cardinals, Moody and Xavier Thomas scored 13 straight points (8 from Moody and 5 from Thomas) to build the Plattsburgh advantage to a 7 point lead at 28-21. A nsteal and layup by Shamoy McIntosh gave the cardinals a double digit lead and shortly after a layup and 3 pointer by Hodgson boosted the lead to 13. Zach Coleman hit a pair free throws to make the final margin a 15 point edge. Eddie Correa also had 4 rebounds and 7 points in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
Potsdam State made me look like a true prognosticator as the Bears upset last year's NCAA quarterfinalist, Morrisville State, by a 64-61 final score.

Potsdam was down by 16 points at the break but outscored the Mustangs 40-21 in the 2nd half. I had the Bears winning this game by a 71-68 final score. I didn't hit the total but had the spread right on the money...and the Bears were a 9 point underdog.

Glad to see my alma mater getting off the schneid in the first game of the year.

C'mon Bear lets have the wrap up!!     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2014, 11:00:28 PM
Plattsburgh State holds on to their 15 point halftime lead and comfortably coasts to a 73-58 win over Elizabethtown. The Cardinals had a 15 to 22 point lead for much of the 2nd half but got a little sloppy when they were up 64-43 with 7:30 left in the game. Missed field goals, missed foul shots, and 4 turnovers allowed the Blue Jays to cut the margin down to 13 points at 64-51 with 5:42 to go. Ezra Hodgson then hit his 4th 3 pointer of the night and Reggie Williams followed that with a hoop and harm for another 3 points to build the lead back to 19 once again. The Cards then looked to keep the score down by using some clock for their final possessions.

Hodgson was the game's leading scorer as he pumped in 21 points on 8x10 from the field. He was 4x5 from long distance and 1x2 from the line with 6 rebounds in 30 minutes of work. Jordan Moody had 14 points (6x9 fg, 1x4 3's, 1x2 ft) with 3 boards and 2 steals in 23 minutes off the bench. Reggie Williams took up where he left off 2 years ago when he last put on a Cardinal uniform..The big guy finished with 10 points (4x6 fg, 2x3 ft) 6 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks in 18 minutes. I said 4 Cardinals would hit double figures in this game and Eddie Correa almost made it happen as he had 9 points (2x3 fg, 1x2 3's, 4x4 ft) 5 rebounds, an assist and a steal in only 14 minutes. Shamoy McIntosh had 7 points, led the team with 8 rebounds, had 4 assists and a steal. Point guard Mike Mitchell had 7 assists and scored 4 points. New Cardinal players Kyle Richardson and Zack Coleman both broke into the scoring column in their first game. Cardinals shot 25x47 from the field  (53.2%), 8x24 from behind the line  (33.3%),  and 16x21 from the stripe (76.2%). They outrebounded the Blue Jays 35-29 but had 20 turnovers to 15 for Etown. Overall a good opening game for the Redbirds as they got the butterflies out of their system and won a game on the road against a veteran team that returned  lot of talent. They were considerably quicker than the Blue Jays and their athleticism proved to be the difference as it will be throughout the year in a great deal of their contests.

The Blue Jays were led by their big man, Lee Eckert, who poured in 18 points (9x18 fg, 0x1 ft), with a team high 7 rebounds. Joe Bodnar was next with 9 points (4x8 fg, 1x4 3's) and 5 rebounds. The Blue Jays shot  22x64 from the field (34.4%), 6x9 from downtown (31.6%) and 9x13 from the stripe (69.2%).

Plattsburgh will take on Lycoming tomorrow afternoon 3:00 PM in the Championship game of the Dutch Burch Tip Off Tournament.

It's my birthday tomorrow and I told the players before they left that I expected a birthday present. They promised to bring me back a Tournament Championship. We shall see!!
                                     

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 12:02:35 AM
Well here's an upset I didn't predict...Oswego loses to Elmira 57-56.  Hard to fathom how the Lakers can go from almost beating D1 Binghamton without 3 key players and yet lose to the E8's perennial 2nd division team, Elmira, with 2 of those 3 missing players back in the lineup.

I had the Lakers winning this game 75-60 and I figured it could be worse if Brian Sortino and Mark Candelario played any significant minutes. Sortino didn't start and neither did the Candy man but they played 29 and 16 minutes respectively. Sortino had 10 points and 5 assists while Candelario had 6 points and 5 rebounds. Newcomer Dustin Pond led the Lakers with 13 points (5x6 fg, 3x3 3's) and 4 rebounds. Kyle Covely added 11 points (48 fg, 1x4 3's, 2x2 ft) and 4 rebounds. Rashawn Powell just missed a double double with 9 points and 11 boards.

Against Binghamton last week the Lakers hit 15 three pointers in 26 attempts. Tonight they only went 5x14. This game was won by the Soaring Eagles at the foul line as they were 13x17 and the Lakers were only 5 of 14. Oswego lost the 1st half 25-24 and both teams scored 32 points in the 2nd half.

Oswego gave up a 6 point lead halfway through the 1st period and found themselves trailing by 4 points before a Duston Pond layup at the buzzer cut the deficit to a single point.

Some early back and forth action to start the 2nd period and the Lakers got a nose in front of the Eagles at 28-27. Elmira closed a 3 point deficit to tie the Lakers at 32 but then Oswego opened up with a 12-0 run to go ahead 44-32. They increased the lead to 14 at 50-36 and were still up by 12 points with 6 minutes left to play at 52-40. 3 missed field goals, a turnover, along with 2 missed 1&1 opportunities and Elmira found themselves right back in the game. Then when Oswego missed the front end of that 2nd 1&1, the Eagles rebounded the miss, came down and scored to once again have the lead at 53-52.They had reeled off 13 unanswered points and the Lakers were in trouble at home. Sortino hit a pair of free throws to break the spell and put Oswego back on top. Elmira misfired on their next trip down the floor but the Lakers couldn't come up with the rebound and a foul  by Pond sent Elmira's Hayden Harkins to the line where he made them both. Trailing by a point with under 2 minutes to play the Lakers went to their go to guy and Sortino hit a layup and was fouled with 1:38 to go. He missed the free throw however and Elmira gained possession. Twice Elmira attempted a shot for the lead and twice the shot was blocked, 1st by Elijah McLaurin and then by Matt Crockett. Sortino grabbed the rebound with 1:06 to play and the Lakers worked the ball for a shot to increase their leads, They missed a 3 point attempt with 38 seconds left and Elmira got the rebound. They couldn't get off a shot and called time out with 4 seconds on the clock. Tyler Dibble then hit the game winning layup with no time on the clock to put a dagger in the Lakers. The Soaring Eagles ended the game on 17-4 run to claim the victory. Oswego will now face Hartwick at 6:30 PM tomorrow night. Hartwick defeated Farmingdale State by an 82-65 score earlier on Saturday.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 12:33:18 AM
Balance of the scoring from Friday's games.

Buffalo State went to the races as they topped the century mark in a track meet with Medaille. Final score was the Bengals 102 and Medaille 86.

I had the Bengals winning by an 82-72 margin. Didn't realize they were playing this game with a 24 second shot clock. ;D

I'll let my friend from Buffalo write up the stats....but the usual suspects, Rod Epps (23 pts),  Chris Thompson (11 pts, 6 reb), Jordan Glover (19 pts) got into the act and were joined by newcomers Kevin Marmolejos (12 pts) and transfer Derrick Fernandez (4 pts, 5 rebounds and 5 assists in his first start).


Hamilton stops New Paltz in overtime 58-55.

The Bengals almost scored as many points as these 2 teams did and they had an extra period. New Paltz had a chance to win this game in regulation but only made 1 of 2 free throws with 23 seconds left. With a tie score Hamilton missed a shot at the buzzer and the game went to OT. Hamilton scored first and then hit a pair of free throws. That was all they needed as the Hawks could only muster a pair of free throws in the 5 minute extra session.

Both teams couldn't hit the broad side of the proverbial barn as they shot poorly from the field, from long range and from the line. Hamilton's percentages were 30.8% (20x65) from the field, 17.4% (4x23) from long range, and 63.6% (14x22) from the line.

New Paltz was 29.0% (18x62) from the field, 23.5% (4x17) from downtown and 57.7% (15x26) from the line. I think both of these teams are in for some tough times this year.

New Paltz was led by Alex Perlman with 17 points (7x10 fg, 34 ft) and 6 rebounds. Taylor Sowah had 13 points (2x9 fg, 0x1 3's, 9x16 ft) and 14 rebounds to open the year with a double double.   

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 12:47:17 AM
Opening Day scores

Brockport State 62   Rhode Island 72 

Oswego State 56    Elmira 57

Fredonia State 72  SUNY Canton 80

New Paltz State 55  Hamilton 58 OT

Potsdam State 64  Morrisville State 61

Buffalo State 102  Medaille 86

Plattsburgh State 73  Elizabethtown 58

The YAC goes 3-4 and 2 of those losses...Oswego and Fredonia were pretty bad and will drag us down in the conference SOS. 

My record was 4-3 as I lost both of the barnburners ,Oswego and New Paltz, plus the Fredonia game.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on November 16, 2014, 10:15:20 AM
Happy Birthday, magicman!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 16, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
Happy birthday Magicman!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 02:49:19 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes guys. Hope to get a good present in about 2 hours when my Cardinals claim the Lycoming Tournament Championship. (Quickly knocks on wood as he says this)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
Plattsburgh State getting ready to take on Lycoming in a few minutes. I think that the Cardinals with all their veteran players and their depth will be too much to handle for the host Warriors. Lycoming lost a lot of players from last year's team and I believe that Plattsburgh will walk off the floor with a 78-69 win. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
Oswego State will take on another Empire 8 team this evening at 6:00 PM as they face off with the Hartwick Hawks. This time the oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 3 point underdog. Something tells me that Oswego will not want to lose a 2nd game in their house to start the season  and I think this team is too good to do that. I think they come away with a 74-70 win over the Hawks. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
Plattsburgh State breezes to a 47-30 halftime lead over Lycoming College. The Cardinals lost 2 starters early on as Shamoy McIntosh and Reggie Williams both got into foul trouble and spent most of the period on the bench. Cardinals had no problem with that though as Jordan Moody came in for McIntosh and proceeded to hit 5x9 including 2 3 pointers to lead the Cardinals with 12 points at the break. Moody also had 3 rebounds. Kyle Richardson also came off the bench to take over for Williams and he was effective as well scoring 8 points with 5 rebounds. Eddie Correa led the team with 8 rebounds and also had 8 points.

Nykolas King was the main man for Lycoming with 10 points and 5 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 04:52:32 PM
Celebrating my birthday and getting phone calls from around the country today so I wasn't able to make any comments about the early games that the YAC teams played.

Brockport State lost to Roanoke by a 83-61 final score. The Golden Eagles fell behind after a 10-10 tie and never gained a lead in this contest. Roanoke steadily increased their advantage and led at the break by a 35-26 score.

Brockport kept it close for the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half and was only down 45-39 with 15:28 to go. Less than a minute later however the margin was 12 points and 3 minutes after that it was up to 18 points. The margin just kept getting bigger and Roanoke led by as much as 27 as they coasted to the finish. Clifton Lyerly was the only Brockport player with double figures as he had 17 points.


Fredonia was able to post a win over a non-D3 school Pitt-Titusville by a score of 75-50 in the consolation game of the Allegheny Tip Off Tournament. No box score is available yet   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2014, 06:21:37 PM
Plattsburgh State put the capper on my birthday as they are coming home with the championship of the Lycoming Tip Off Tournament, beating the Warriors by a 78-64 final score.

I almost had this one pegged as I predicted a 78-69 Cardinal victory.

The Cardinals who led the entire game entered the break with a 47-30 lead and extended that advantage to a game high 20 points late in the 2nd half. Plattsburgh was never seriously threatened in the 2nd period as the lead was double digits the entire half.

Foul trouble on 2 starters limited their minutes considerably as Shamoy McIntosh only saw 8 minutes of action and Reggie Williams managed only 13 minutes of floor time. Both players had 4 fouls and Shamoy got his 4th foul with only 3 minutes gone by in the 2nd period. It didn't matter as the depth of the Cardinals simply meant that 2 different players would have the chance to shine today and shine they did. Jordan Moody came into the game when McIntosh got 3 quick fouls in the 1st period. He paid immediate dividends and ended up as the leading scorer in the period with 12 points. He added another 10 points in the 2nd half, coming in as McIntosh's replacement once again. He scored 22 points in 20 minutes as he shot 9x15 from the field, 3x7 from long range and 1x1 from the line.

Kyle Richardson would start at 99% of the schools in Division III and if he continues to play like he has, may very well end up as a starter at Plattsburgh. For now though he remains a valuable weapon and a matchup nightmare for opponents when he enters the game as the second wave. Kyle snagged his first double-double in a Cardinal uniform in just his 2nd game as he scored 13 points (5x10 fg's, 2x6 3's, 1x1 ft) and 10 rebounds, 4 on the offensive end.

The Cardinals got another double double from Eddie Correa who managed 10 points (3x12 fg, 2x8 3's, 2x2 ft) and 11 rebounds. We almost had 4 guys in double figs yesterday and today we did it as the X-Man Xavier Thomas scored 11 points (3x9 fg, 0x1 3's, 5x7 ft) and grabbed 5 rebounds.

Last but not least was point guard Mike Mitchell's two day performance. Mike didn't score a ton of points, he had 9 today and 4 yesterday but he totaled 15 assists in the 2 games (7 yesterday and 8 today). He also took care of getting the ball up the floor in nearly flawless fashion today as he had zero turnovers to go with those 8 assists.

Mike was chosen as a member of the All Tournament team and Jordan Moody with his 36 points scored in the 2 games walked away with the tournament MVP award. I couldn't hear if any other Cardinal players made the all tournament team but I think it was just those two guys.

Plattsburgh once again had a decent day shooting the rock. it wasn't quite as good as yesterday but they managed to make 26x67 shots from the field (41.8%) They hit 11x30 from 3 point land (36.7%) and 11x13 from the line 84.6%. Cards won the boards 45-40 but once again had more turnovers...16 to 9 for Lycoming.

The Warriors placed 3 players in double digits as Chris Wallace led the way with 14. Nykolas King had 12 and Justin Iton had 10. They shot just 19.1% from the field, 19x61 and just 2x11 from long distance. (18.2%). They were 24x32 from the line (75%) as the zebras tried their best to help out the home team. Some pretty strange calls in this contest as the home team had twice as many free throw attempts as the Cardinals did.

Plattsburgh is now 2-0 on the young season and will hit the road twice more in the next 8 days as they travel to Western Connecticut next Friday Nov. 21st and then take on Skidmore in Saratoga on Monday Nov 24th.     
             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2014, 05:49:39 AM
Oswego State breaks into the win column with a 60-50 defeat of Hartwick.  I knew they wouldn't lose 2 games in a row at home to E8 teams.

Brian Sortino and Mark Candelario were both in the starting lineup for the 1st time this year. Sortino leads the team with 14 points. Rashawn Powell adds 12 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. He missed a double double by a single point yesterday but got one today. Dustin Pond hits double figs again with 11 points and has 7 boards. Candelario has 9 points, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks in 16 minutes.

The Hawks were led by Matt Wilson with 17 points and 17 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 18, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
In a big SUNYAC weekend Oswego loses at home in a shocker to Elmira. I still really believe in Oswego because of all the talent they have. Once they start to get healthy they are going to be dangerous. Very good for Plattsburgh to get 2 wins and a championship. We will learn about Oneonta as they go up to Williams a top 5 team. New Paltz goes down in a close game against Hamilton. Brockport goes 0-2 at Marymount, Buff State wins against Medaille in a high scoring game. Potsdam wins against Morrisville and loses to St Josephs VT. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
Only 3 SUNYAC teams in action tonight as the big storm is the western part of the state forces postponement of  the Geneseo-Medaille game.

New Paltz State at Vassar      7:00 PM

The Hawks are 0-1 after their OT loss to Hamilton over the weekend and the Brewers are 1-1 after they won the opening game of their tip off tournament before getting hammered by Springfield College 82-44. The Brewers won't have last season's leading scorer Johnny Mrlik in the lineup until next semester but should still have enough talent to win this game in Poughkeepsie. The point spread favors Vassar by 8 points and I think that sounds about right. The Brewers win this one 72-64.     
   
Medaille  at Geneseo State      Postponed 
   
Oneonta State      Williams      7:00 PM

The Red Dragons travel to Williamstown to take on the#5 ranked Ephs and are heavy underdogs, as the oddsmakers have made Williams a 15 point favorite. I don't think the Ephs are good enough to be ranked #5 with all the losses they've suffered in the off season and through graduation. This team is not even close to the National runner-up team of last season. The early lofty ranking was a mistake as evidenced by their opening day loss to Southern Vermont (a team that beat them for the 2nd year in a row). I'm almost tempted to pick Oneonta to win this game and it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I'd feel better though if the Red Dragons were going into this matchup with a game under their belt. I'm going with the Ephs to win a close game 77-72, but I hope like hell the Red Dragons prove me wrong and steal one here.   
   
Utica  at  Cortland State      7:00 PM

These Red Dragons have revenge on their minds after they let one slip away against the Pioneers last year by a 71-67 margin. Not a lot to go on here as it's the opening game for both teams. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a 14 point favorite. I think that's too many. I'm taking Cortland to win by a 74-66 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
Oneonta has come back from a 10 point 2nd half deficit to grab the lead for the first time by a single point at 53-52  with 8:09 to play.


Cortland led Utica College at the break 36-23 and has now increased that advantage to 55-35 with 8:46 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2014, 08:16:51 PM
Vassar College leading New Paltz 44-34 with 13:15 remaining on the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2014, 08:39:41 PM
Oneonta defeats Williams 74-68. Nice win for the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2014, 10:28:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 16, 2014, 12:33:18 AM
Balance of the scoring from Friday's games.

Buffalo State went to the races as they topped the century mark in a track meet with Medaille. Final score was the Bengals 102 and Medaille 86.

I had the Bengals winning by an 82-72 margin. Didn't realize they were playing this game with a 24 second shot clock. ;D

I'll let my friend from Buffalo write up the stats....but the usual suspects, Rod Epps (23 pts),  Chris Thompson (11 pts, 6 reb), Jordan Glover (19 pts) got into the act and were joined by newcomers Kevin Marmolejos (12 pts) and transfer Derrick Fernandez (4 pts, 5 rebounds and 5 assists in his first start).


You did a fine job thier Magic!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2014, 10:31:24 PM
Tuesday night score.

Cortland State exacts a measure of revenge over Utica College as they down the Pioneers by an 83-64 final score. Nice season opening win for the Red Dragons. Lamard Herron tops 3 Cortland players in double figures with 16 pts. Blair Estarfaa has 15 and James Morales has 12. Guard Shane Martinez led the team with 6 rebounds and scored 6 points. Red Dragons never trailed as they opened the game with a 16-2 outburst and were comfortably leading by double digits throughout the contest. They led at the break by 13...36-23 and stretched it to a 24 point margin at 60-36 with 7:37 left in the game.

Conor Maisch with 16 and Aaron Nevins with 10 led the Pioneers.

Cortland will return to the hardwood this weekend when they take part in the Cortaca Classic. They will meet Farmingdale State on Friday evening at 6:00 PM and then play Trinity College (Conn) from the NESCAC conference on Saturday at 4:00 PM. This will be the 3rd matchup already this season between teams from the YAC and the CAC.  We are currently 1-1 with Hamilton beating New Paltz in OT last Saturday and Oneonta taking down Williams tonight.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2014, 11:06:18 PM
As expected Vassar College defeats New Paltz by a 70-61 final score. Taylor Sowah led the Hawks as usual with a double double of 19 points and 12 rebounds. He added 3 steals, 3 blocks, and a pair of assists to round out a strong performance. Alex Perlman came off the bench to add 16 points and 6 boards. Malik Seelal also came off the bench to score 14 points and haul down 8 rebounds.

The Hawks stayed with the Brewers throughout the 1st half as there were 6 lead changes along with 5 ties in a back and forth period. New Paltz went up 22-20 with 2:41 left in the half on a pair of Alex Perlman free throws, but failed to score again and the Brewers reeled off 6 unanswered points to head into the locker room up 26-22.

It took Taylor Sowah 28 seconds to score back to back layups to open the 2nd period and tie the game up. It was the last time the Hawks would be that close. The Brewers used a 12-1 run to open up a double digit lead and gradually increased it to a game high 16 point advantage at 60-44 with 6:38 left in the game. A 15-6 spurt by the Hawks got it down to a 7 point lead at 66-59 with time running out and the Brewers closed out the game hitting 6 of 8 from the line.

Vassar got 17 points from Curtis Smith and 16 points from Erickson Wasyl.

The Hawks are in action again on Friday at 1:00 PM as they travel to Rochester to take part in Rochester's Chuck Resler Tournament. They will face Utica College in the opening game.  They will play Rochester or Gordon the next day at 1 PM or 6 PM.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2014, 11:45:03 PM
Wanted to list the Massey Rating System rankings for all the East Region teams at the start of the year so I'd have a reference point as the season progresses. The following rankings were copied down by me shortly before the opening day on Nov. 15th.

The first weekend of games has already seen considerable movement among the teams. A couple of examples:

Massey had Plattsburgh with a preseason ranking of #15 but they have moved up to #13 after going 2-0 in their first couple of games. Potsdam State was ranked at #332 but with an opening day win over Morrisville they moved up 79 places to now rank at #253. Likewise, Morrisville has tumbled from #68 all the way down to #229, after back to back losses to Potsdam State and Clarkson.

The number in front of the team is the preseason ranking assigned by Massey. The initial ranking is based on where the teams finished up last season. There will be wholesale changes during the first few weeks of the season until the teams have played enough games to get a handle on this year's true ranking.  He ranks a total of 417 Division III teams. So he has Plattsburgh and Brockport ranked in his Top 25


15     Plattsburgh State
20     Brockport State
39     Geneseo State
65     Hobart
68     Morrisonville
71     NYU
80     Nazareth
93     Stevens Tech
115   Oswego State
118   St John Fisher
130   Hartwick
132   Vassar
141   Skidmore
151   Buffalo State
153   University of Rochester
155   Cortland State
159   Clarkson
171   Alfred
174   Oneonta State
175   RIT
211   Lancaster Bible
234   SUNYIT
253   St. Lawrence
263   Elmira
268   Union
302   New Paltz
310   Penn State-Abington
317   SUNY Cobleskill
318   RPI
329   Fredonia State
331   Ithaca
332   Potsdam State
337   Utica College
359   Penn State-Berks
364   Bryn Athyn
371   Wells
377   Cazenovia
381   Keuka
382   Gallaudet
387   Bard
399   Houghton
400   SUNY Canton
413   Sarah Lawrence
416   Alfred State
417   Wilson

That's all 45 teams in the East Region. I'll do updates every so often so we can see the teams on the rise and the teams that have failed to live up to expectations.

We start out with 4 SUNYAC teams in the top ten in the East. I think we may end  up with YAC teams  in the top 10 but may be slightly different than the 4 listed here.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 19, 2014, 11:42:25 AM
Big bad NESCAC gets a little taste of the East Region and SUNYAC! Great win for Oneonta and Coach Medici. Looks like the SUNYAC is going to be a really good conference again this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 19, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
Good win by Oneonta over Williams.  Williams is having problems with a new coaching and a short bench..now 0-2.  The Nescac only started practice on Nov. 1...no excuse really.  Williams lost its first game last year and almost won the Title...losing by one in the last sec in the Title Game.  Expect the CAC teams to be better prepared by season end to meet the Sunyac schools in the post season.
Guess I "threw the glove" down...oh well.  Still, congrats to the smaller Oneonta team that took it to the EPHS!   This is coming from an Amherst poster :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 19, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
Good win by Oneonta over Williams.  Williams is having problems with a new coaching and a short bench..now 0-2.  The Nescac only started practice on Nov. 1...no excuse really.  Williams lost its first game last year and almost won the Title...losing by one in the last sec in the Title Game.  Expect the CAC teams to be better prepared by season end to meet the Sunyac schools in the post season.
Guess I "threw the glove" down...oh well.  Still, congrats to the smaller Oneonta team that took it to the EPHS!   This is coming from an Amherst poster :)

C'mon amh63, you might just as well come right out and admit it...you love the fact that Williams is 0-2 and losing to the "lesser" conferences. ;D     And that's SUNYAC not Sunyac....after all I noticed it was CAC teams. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 19, 2014, 05:32:12 PM
Yep!.....my friend.  Did not mean to put down the SUNYAC with the l.c.....just lazy....see Nescac earlier.  Your fellow poster is correct to a fault.  Tufts, a favorite has lost two games...and Amherst struggled last night against Anna Maria in an away game opener.
Stay warm!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2014, 06:40:44 PM
I hope all my friends in the western part of the state are safe and warm in the wake of 6 feet of snow and more on the way....especially concerned for my favorite Bengal. Stay home with the family Champ, and get some cuddle time in.

Just watching Brian Williams and heard that 6 or 7 deaths already attributed to the storm. Niagara University Women's Basketball team were rescued from being stranded on the highway for hours. Scary weather right out of the movies. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
Oneonta defeats Williams 74-68 in Williamstown Here's a recap of the game.

The Red Dragons pulled off the upset here but as I mentioned when I made my picks that making Oneonta a 15 point underdog in this game was out of line and it wouldn't surprise me if they won the game outright. I thought the Red Dragons would fare better if they had played a game prior to facing the Ephs and so I went with Williams to win a close game. I wanted to be wrong and the Red Dragons made it happen.

Oneonta was down almost the entire 1st half. They never gained the lead and after an early 4-4 tie they fell behind by as many as 6 points. They fought back to tie it up once again at 17 with 11 minutes left in the half but Williams went on a 14-3 run to open up an 11 point lead at 31-20. The Red Dragons got it back to single digits when Zach Mager hit a 3 pointer to make the score 33-25 at the break.

The 2nd half opened with the teams trading punches but Williams once again built their lead to 11 points at 41-30 with 3 minutes gone by in the period. Zach Mager then went on a 7-1 run to pull the Red Dragons back within 5 points. Eulogio Medina and Mikey McElroy hit back to back buckets and all of a sudden it was a 1 point game at 42-41. The Ephs quickly went back up by 6 on a pair of free throws by Daniel Wohl and a 3 pointer by Chris Galvin. Back came the Red Dagons as Medina scored a pair of baskets in 30 seconds and Mager hit another triple to give Oneonta their first lead of the night at 48-47 with 10:47 left to play. The Ephs counterpunched with 5 unanswered points to regain the lead at 52-47. It would be the last lead they would enjoy. 11 consecutive Red Dragon points on a free throw and 5 layups...3 by Frankie Kelly and 2 by Medina put Oneonta up 59-52 with 5:40 left to play. The Ephs didn't know it yet but this game was over.  They did get as close as 66-64 with 1:11 left to play but a layup by McElroy followed by 6 straight made free throws between the M&M boys... Mager and McElroy closed out the Ephs 74-68.

Zach Mager opened the season with another double double of 22 points and 11 rebounds. Eulogio Medina added 20 points and 6 rebounds in his first game in a Red Dragon uniform. Frankie kelly had 10 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals. McElroy chipped in with 10 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.

Daniel Wohl had 23 points for Williams and Mike Greenman was next with 14.

Oneonta returns to action this Friday when they meet up with SUNY-Cobleskill at 6:00 PM at Hartwick. They will meet another NCAA team from last year when they host Eastern Connecticut on Saturday the 22nd.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2014, 10:32:11 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2014, 06:40:44 PM
I hope all my friends in the western part of the state are safe and warm in the wake of 6 feet of snow and more on the way....especially concerned for my favorite Bengal. Stay home with the family Champ, and get some cuddle time in.

Just watching Brian Williams and heard that 6 or 7 deaths already attributed to the storm. Niagara University Women's Basketball team were rescued from being stranded on the highway for hours. Scary weather right out of the movies.

  Thanks a bunch Magic! Its been 1 doozy of a week here in western New york!  Wife went back to work tonight, for the first time since her father passed away, so the "Cuddletime" wont be in effect tonight :( . I must admit that with the morning forecast calling for another 1-2 feet by Thursday night, the blogs take on a whole new significance.

   I would ask all those out there to say a prayer for those trapped in WNY. Today 1 guy was found in his car, under 12 feet of snow, frozen to death. Not too mention 4 folks who died from shoveling snow! Yeesh, its been tough!!

Oh and BTW...THanks for standing up for the SUNYAC!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2014, 11:20:03 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 19, 2014, 05:32:12 PM
Yep!.....my friend.  Did not mean to put down the SUNYAC with the l.c.....just lazy....see Nescac earlier.  Your fellow poster is correct to a fault.  Tufts, a favorite has lost two games...and Amherst struggled last night against Anna Maria in an away game opener.
Stay warm!

Of course I know you weren't putting down the SUNYAC amh63...You have too much class to do that. 8-) I just couldn't resist jesting with you a bit. ;)

It certainly hasn't been the typical opening of hoops season for the NESCAC teams. Surprised about the Tufts losses. Not surprised at the Williams losses though. Really surprised about the closeness of the Middlebury-UNE game where the Panthers needed a bucket at the buzzer to come away with the win. I expected New England to be better than last year's 2-23 but hanging with the Panthers to the bitter end is a shocker. Especially after Southern Maine blew UNE's socks off tonight and  NESCAC celler dweller Conn. College beat Southern Maine by 15 points last weekend.
So if Conn College beat So. Maine by 15 and Southern Maine beat Univ. of New England by 18 and Univ of New England only lost to Middlebury by 2 points, then how many points will Connecticut College beat Middlebury by when they meet in conference play?

Likewise if So. Maine can hang with Anna Maria, only losing by an 86-83 score and Conn College can beat So. Maine by 15 and Anna Maria can lead Amherst by 14 points halfway through the 2nd half, will Conn College be able to steal one from the Lord Jeffs this year? Lots of funny stuff going on with the CAC's Big Three this season and it's only 5 days old. ;D

This may be the year my Cardinals could get a little payback if we meet for a 3rd straight year in the NCAA tournament (as he knocks on wood, to not jinx his Cardinals). I for one would like to see that happen.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 20, 2014, 01:57:40 AM
You coming down to Danbury Friday night Magic??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2014, 07:03:06 AM
Only if they let me ride on the team bus, 7. Coach Curle has said he'd let me but can't get the suits in administration to go along with that. I'll be at my computer though, and was hoping to watch a live webcast of the game. However, after checking Western's website it looks like all I'll get is live stats. What's up with that? The Colonials too cheap to invest in some video equipment or hire an independent contractor to broadcast the games over the internet? Plattsburgh, along with a number of other schools in New York and New England, uses Northeast Sports Network to do their games. They do a great job, with a very good announcer, quality video, even instant replay. It looks like Western games are only on video occasionally if they are on the road and the home team is broadcasting the game. I was disappointed to say the least.

I see in your post on the LEC board that you had quite a bit to say about Western Connecticut after they released the roster and not all of it was positive. Yet in your LEC pick 'ems you chose them to beat Plattsburgh. Is that because you're wearing your heart on your sleeve and you're hoping for a win, or do you really think the Colonials, with the personnel problems you describe, are better than the Cardinals? I'd switch my pick if I was you. ;D Just kidding 7, I know you gotta go with your guys. It should be a good game, I just wish it was being shown on the web.   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 20, 2014, 03:06:14 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2014, 07:03:06 AM
Only if they let me ride on the team bus, 7. Coach Curle has said he'd let me but can't get the suits in administration to go along with that. I'll be at my computer though, and was hoping to watch a live webcast of the game. However, after checking Western's website it looks like all I'll get is live stats. What's up with that? The Colonials too cheap to invest in some video equipment or hire an independent contractor to broadcast the games over the internet? Plattsburgh, along with a number of other schools in New York and New England, uses Northeast Sports Network to do their games. They do a great job, with a very good announcer, quality video, even instant replay. It looks like Western games are only on video occasionally if they are on the road and the home team is broadcasting the game. I was disappointed to say the least.

I see in your post on the LEC board that you had quite a bit to say about Western Connecticut after they released the roster and not all of it was positive. Yet in your LEC pick 'ems you chose them to beat Plattsburgh. Is that because you're wearing your heart on your sleeve and you're hoping for a win, or do you really think the Colonials, with the personnel problems you describe, are better than the Cardinals? I'd switch my pick if I was you. ;D Just kidding 7, I know you gotta go with your guys. It should be a good game, I just wish it was being shown on the web. 

FYI NEVER check the school sites when it comes to video go to http://portal.stretchinternet.com/lec/ to see what games are being broadcast from LEC schools.  According to that, the Plattsburgh/Western game WILL have TV.  Whether they do or not remains to be seen, but it looks like they will.  Enjoy the game Magic I have something in the City tomorrow night so I'll be getting a final only  :'(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
7express,

Thanks for the link to the Western/Plattsburgh game. I'm already in a better frame of mind for Friday night. Usually if you go to the school's website and click on their schedule you will find a link to the webcast if there is one. Western's schedule was showing video links only to away games which led me to believe they had no video capabilities. Glad to find out I was wrong. I take back what I said about them being too cheap. ;D I see you've accepted my little proposition. Good man. I'll do a recap of the game and post a copy on the LEC board for you. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ECSUalum on November 20, 2014, 05:21:44 PM
Magicman From LEC thread:
re Plattsburgh State @ Western Connecticut,  Friday 11-21-2014
So if you get the chance to watch this game Friday night I would definitely recommend  doing so. It would appear that there is no webcast of the game unless I'm missing something. If you or anyone (are you listening 7express?) know of a video link please let me know here on this board or by a PM.

Check out, http://portal.stretchinternet.com/lec/
It is showing the referenced game will be video streamed and will have Live Stats.  Only issue is that there will be no play by play, (too bad as the Western guy is great), but will have audio and if like the TCNJ game will be in HD
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2014, 06:37:49 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on November 20, 2014, 05:21:44 PM
Magicman From LEC thread:
re Plattsburgh State @ Western Connecticut,  Friday 11-21-2014
So if you get the chance to watch this game Friday night I would definitely recommend  doing so. It would appear that there is no webcast of the game unless I'm missing something. If you or anyone (are you listening 7express?) know of a video link please let me know here on this board or by a PM.

Check out, http://portal.stretchinternet.com/lec/
It is showing the referenced game will be video streamed and will have Live Stats.  Only issue is that there will be no play by play, (too bad as the Western guy is great), but will have audio and if like the TCNJ game will be in HD

Well gosh darn it. I'm snowed in ( and will be snowed in tomorrow night also) so it looks like I'll be tuning in also for this SUNYAC/LEC battle.  Go Cards!!!  ;)

   P.s.  As far as UNE basketball. Back in the BENGALS last Championship season (2010-11), I had the pleasure of going to Worcester Mass for a tourney involving Buff State and Elms. Ed Silva (current UNE coach) was the coach of Elms. I remember the warm up , which was the most intense warm up of a college basketball team that I had ever seen. Elms went thru some kind of ritual (think "Haka" New Zealand Rugby) that had to be the most intense pre-game ritual that I had ever seen. And then they played like they were possessed. It was the toughest victory of our "Sweet 16 " season. You couldn't help but admire how well Silva had his prepared, and the class they showed after the game which went to double OT! There are few coaches/teams that I have seen that I have respected like that Elms team. Silva left following that season for UNE.

    All I can say is that the those teams in the CCC better watch out. I'm predicting that UNE 1-24 season of last year (lone win vs Western Conn), will be a distant memory come mid February. That guy is a winner!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2014, 01:24:49 PM
For those of us who have complained about the weather is too hot or rain ruined my picnic. I give you this...
Family kept in touch with stranded motorist in the hours before his death
Tiffany Lankes - News Staff Reporter 
Updated Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:17 PM EST


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Donald Abate made a 110-commute daily to his job in Batavia.
Donald J. Abate drove 110 miles each day to and from his job as a corrections officer in Batavia.

He loved his job, and some people thought he should move closer.

But he wanted to live in Hamburg near his parents, who are in their 70s. He was their only child, and he looked out for them.

As Abate drove home Monday night, the weather did not seem too bad. He left his job at midnight. At most, he thought, he might be a little delayed.

"He called and said, 'I'll probably be home a little late. The weather's not good,' " said Jackie Abate, his wife.

Emergency authorities found him late Tuesday dead in his car, which was buried in snow off Broadway in Alden.

His cause of death is unknown and it's being investigated.

His family is concerned that state troopers apparently turned away a AAA tow truck that was coming to help him.

"Our heart goes out to his family," the State Police said in a statement. "As is with any ongoing death investigation all of the circumstances will be reviewed."

Abate's family kept in steady contact with him for hours throughout the ordeal.

At about 1 a.m. he called his wife to tell her he pulled over at a car wash in Alden because of low visibility.

About an hour later, he called back to tell her we was headed to a nearby Tops.

"He said he didn't want to stay there," Jackie said. "He was trying to figure out where he could be where they could find him."

He never got to the Tops, though. His KIA became stuck in a ditch trying to leave the car wash. He called his wife again to tell her he called AAA and that they were on their way to help him.

They never showed up. Abate made multiple calls to 911 for help.

"We were calling them, he was calling them," said his father James Abate. "They said they were coming."

The last time the family spoke with Abate was at about 11 a.m. Tuesday. Then their calls went directly to voice mail, and Abate stopped responding to their text messages.

"We started calling everyone," Jackie Abate said.

They called 911, the State Police and tried to reach emergency dispatchers in Alden.

The family also called AAA, and that's when they learned the tow truck had been turned away because of the driving ban.

James said he called 911, and a dispatcher in Hamburg told him he could not transfer him to the appropriate jurisdiction.

The family made contact with troopers and stayed in touch throughout the night Tuesday. By then Abate had been in the vehicle about 24 hours.

At about 4 a.m. Wednesday, Jackie received the last call. The trooper told her to come to the door. They struggled to open it because it was blocked by a pile of snow.

"Don didn't make it," she said. "They found the vehicle covered."

Now, the family must wait for the snow to clear to get out and make funeral arrangements.

"I lost the love of my life," she added. "I just love him very much and I wish he would have stayed in Batavia."

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
There are 6 games on tap today involving teams from the SUNYAC.   

Utica     vs  New Paltz State        1:00 PM   
Chuck Resler Tournament @ Rochester, NY

Hawks may have found a team they can beat. Utica didn't look good against Cortland the other day.  The Hawks, however haven't looked good either They are favored by 4 points but I think Utica wins this one by that 4 point margin, 75-71. 

   
St. Lawrence   at  Oswego State        5:30 PM   

Lakers should be a handful for the Saints. SLU a 9 point underdog but this one could be worse. I'll take the Lakers by a 75-64 score.

 
Farmingdale State  vs  Cortland State        6:00 PM
@ Ithaca, NY

Cortland looked good in their opening game and is a 7 point favorite over Farmingdale. The Rams did beat Elmira, who beat Oswego but they lost to Hartwick by 17 and Oswego beat Hartwick by 10. I think the Red Dragons pull off the win here by a 73-67 score.
     
Wilmington  vs  Geneseo State        6:00 PM   
Stephanie Tubbs Jones Memorial Tournament @ Cleveland, Ohio

Geneseo has yet to take the court as their opening game was cancelled due to all the snow that has hit western NY. The oddsmakers have made them a 3 point underdog in this game against the Quakers but I like the Blue Knights with their All American Gordon Lyons. The Knights return a lot of talent off last year's NCAA team and I think they take this one by a 78-71 final.

     
SUNY-Cobleskill   vs  Oneonta State        6:00 PM   
Oneonta Mayor's Cup Tournament @ Hartwick

These Red Dragons should be pretty high after opening the season with a win at  National Runner-Up Williams. Hopefully they won't have a letdown here as they step down in class to face the Fighting Tigers from Cobleskill.  Point spread has the Red Dragons winning by 13 points.  It should be something like 72-58.

   
Plattsburgh State  at  Western Connecticut        7:00 PM

This one is the featured game of the day as the Cardinals take on the Colonials with a chance at some revenge. It was just over 4 years ago on 11-19-10 when the teams met in an early season tournament at SUNY-Purchase. The Colonials rode their top gun at the time, Daquan Brooks, to an 86-80 win that day. Both teams come into this year with high hopes as the Cardinals look to get a 3rd straight NCAA bid after a Sweet 16 appearance last year. Western continues to improve off a down year 2 years ago and figures to be near the top of the LEC conference once again. Plattsburgh opened the season with a pair of wins to capture the Lycoming Tip Off Tournament and Western's only game has been a 91-73 win over visiting The College of New Jersey. One of these teams will walk off the court tonight with a first blemish on their record.  The oddsmakers have made the home team Colonials a 9 point underdog. That sounds about right. If the Colonials decide to run with the Cardinals and get into a track meet however I think it will be a larger margin. I'll take the Cardinals by an 84-74 final.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 21, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
Obviously I haven't seen Plattsburgh's roster but the Colonials are guard-oriented as they don't have a single player taller than 6"5.  I figured their best chance of winning is if they got into a track meet and sped up the Cardinals.  Don't play well in a half-court offense and God-forbid if Plattsburgh is a tall team.

One other thing to keep an eye on Magic, there's a big depth perception at the Feldman area.  They have behind the basket seating but only use them for the Globetrotters and leave them closed for other games.  Road teams in the LEC have trouble shooting there and they play there every season, so for a team like the Cardinals who doesn't go there yearly, may take them a while to get used to the odd-ball court arrangement.  There's so much room behind the basket that they usually have to replace the game ball in the middle of the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2014, 06:49:34 PM
Quote from: 7express on November 21, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
Obviously I haven't seen Plattsburgh's roster but the Colonials are guard-oriented as they don't have a single player taller than 6"5.  I figured their best chance of winning is if they got into a track meet and sped up the Cardinals.  Don't play well in a half-court offense and God-forbid if Plattsburgh is a tall team.

One other thing to keep an eye on Magic, there's a big depth perception at the Feldman area.  They have behind the basket seating but only use them for the Globetrotters and leave them closed for other games.  Road teams in the LEC have trouble shooting there and they play there every season, so for a team like the Cardinals who doesn't go there yearly, may take them a while to get used to the odd-ball court arrangement.  There's so much room behind the basket that they usually have to replace the game ball in the middle of the game.

Interesting 7.  We aren't especially tall either. The Cardinals have a bunch of quick guards in the 6'2 to 6'4 range and most of them can get to the rim in a hurry. No one will stay with Jordan Moody and Xavier Thomas is a 6'2" leaper that has already been a human highlight reel with his dunks in the games of last season and this year. If the Cardinals can't knock down their 3's (and they have about 6 good 3 point shooters, then they will just take it to the rim. Running with them will be tough to keep up as they go 10 deep and 13 deep if they have to. They can tire you out if they go that route. Two starters went out with foul trouble against Lycoming. The 2 replacements off the bench proceeded to lead the team in scoring. I'm not sure, but the Cardinals may be the most athletic team in the country. Certainly one of the them at the very least. Almost game time. Can't wait.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2014, 08:03:53 PM
Plattsburgh leads Western Connecticut 48-37 at the half.

The Cardinals didn't seem too affected by the open backdrops in back of the baskets at each end of the court, as my friend 7express mentioned earlier. They do have a wide open area at each end of the floor much like the field house here in Plattsburgh(which Plattsburgh doesn't use as their home court, choosing to use the older facility, Memorial Hall instead) and I can see where it would pose problems for any number of teams not used to that backdrop, but the Cardinals shot 16x33 (48.5%) from the field and more importantly they were 8x13 from behind the 3 point line (61.5%). Now the open ended area may have affected their free throw shooting as they were only 8x15 from the line. Maybe they should step back to the 3 point line for their free throws. ;D

Ezra Hodgson was the top scorer for Plattsburgh as he scored 13 points (5x7 fg, 1x1 3's, 2x2 ft). Eddie Correa had 11 points with a pair of triples shoopting 3x6 from thee field and 3x4 from the line. Xavier Thomas came off the bench to score 9 points and grab 3 rebounds in 6 minutes. Kyle Richardson also subbed in and led the team with 5 rebounds and scored 8 points in 11 minutes on the floor.

The Warriors were led by Tre'Von Perry with 6 points. A trio of Warriors had 5 points, Bobby Bynum, Jimmy Louissaint and Claudy Casseus. Luis Bridtter grabbed 6 rebounds to lead the team in that category,

The Cardinals took an early lead on a Eddie Correa 3 pointer and a pair of Hodgson jumpers made it 7-2.  The Warriors fought back to tie the game at 9-9, but the cardinals went on an 11-0 run on back to back 3's by Thomas and Richardson. Hodgson hit a pair of free throws and Thomas nailed another 3, before the Warriors scored to stop the bleeding. The rest of the period saw Plattsburgh with a lead that fluctuated between 7 and 13 points. Tony Seldon hit a layup at the buzzer for Western to narrow the lead to 11 at the break.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2014, 05:20:03 PM



Results so far.....
   
Utica    84  vs  New Paltz State   72   
   
St. Lawrence 58 vs  Oswego State 62        
 
Farmingdale State  54 vs  Cortland State   75     

Wilmington  83 vs  Geneseo State     81   

SUNY-Cobleskill  52  vs  Oneonta State     90      

and...

Plattsburgh State  at  Western Connecticut        7:00 PM

I'll let the magic 1 report on this 1!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2014, 09:13:19 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2014, 05:20:03 PM



Results so far.....
   
Utica    84  vs  New Paltz State   72   
   
St. Lawrence 58 vs  Oswego State 62        
 
Farmingdale State  54 vs  Cortland State   75     

Wilmington  83 vs  Geneseo State     81   

SUNY-Cobleskill  52  vs  Oneonta State     90      

and...

Plattsburgh State  at  Western Connecticut        7:00 PM

I'll let the magic 1 report on this 1!

Apologies to Magicman. I'm not sure how the last post was credited to Magicman.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2014, 11:05:59 PM
Plattsburgh falls to Western Connecticut by a final score of 89-84

This was a hard game to watch. Live stats were screwed up almost the entire night and the webcast was freezing up throughout the 2nd half. Did not enjoy watching this contest. Numerous times when a score occurred the wrong total was put up or it was given to the wrong team. On several occasions I watched Plattsburgh, down by 2 points, make a free throw and have it credited to Western. By the time the mistake was corrected both team had scored again, the video had frozen up and you wouldn't have a clue if it was a 1, 2, 3, or 5, point lead. never knew for the entire final 10 minutes of the game who was ahead or what margin they were ahead by. When a time out occurred the camera would focus on the scoreboard and you would get the actual score. Seconds later the live stats would credit the next points to the wrong team and it was Deja Vu all over again.   

The enjoyment factor was knocked down another couple of notches when Plattsburgh lost a double digit halftime lead and came out on the short end of the scoreboard. The Colonials came out of the break and quickly narrowed the gap of 11 points down to 54-51 with 13:28 left to play. Back and forth action over the next few minutes until finally Western went ahead for the 1st time in the game on a 3 pointer by Phil Starks to make it 61-59 with 11 minutes remaining. A short time later a pair of free throws by Luis Bridtter gave the Colonials their largest lead of the night at 67-61. A Shamoy McIntosh layup brought the Cardinals back into the lead at 72-71 and 4 more lead changes would follow. Up by a 78-75 margin with 4:33 left to play the Cardinals fell victim to a slight variation of officiating known as home cooking. The Colonials scored 14 points to 6 for Plattsburgh to end the game. 12 of the points Western scored came from the free throw line as they made 7 trips to the stripe to only 2 for the Cardinals. It is what is and of course I'm probably a little biased but this game was won by the Colonials because of the free throw attempts they had in the final 4:20 of the game and the lack of free throw attempts that Plattsburgh had. Several bipartisan fans that I know have communicated with me since the game ended and all 3 of the guys commented on the obvious inequities that took place in the game. However the bottom line is that the Cardinals did not handle the press all that well. They were missing their #1 ball handler, as starting point guard Mike Mitchell didn't play tonight. That would have made a considerable difference in the amount of turnovers that Plattsburgh committed. 29 TO's may very well be the highest number this team has had in at least 3 years if not longer.

The Cardinals got balanced scoring as 5 guys hit double figures tonight. Shamoy McIntosh was the game's high scorer as he led the team with 16 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds and a pair of 3 pointers. Kyle Richardson once again provided a big lift off the bench as he came in and scored 15 points grabbed 6 rebounds, had 2 blocks, 2 assists and a steal. Kyle was 4x4 from long distance as well.  Eddie Correa had 14 points with 3 triples, 2 steals, 2 assists and 2 rebounds. Ezra Hodgson had 13 points and 6 rebounds, while Xavier Thomas also scored 13 points, including 2 three pointers and led the team with 7 boards.

Telling stats... the Cards outshot the Colonials from the field 44.6% (29x65) to 42,4% (28x66)... from three point land 50% (12x24) to 17.6% (3x17)... outrebounded Western 48-40 and had 16 assists to 12 for the Colonials.

Western went to the line 41 times to 29 for the Cardinals. Western shot 73.2% (30x41) from the stripe while the Cardinals shot 51.9% (14x27). The Colonials had 20 turnovers, the Cardinals had 29.

The Colonials were Bobby Bynum with 15 points, 7 steals, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a block. Jeremiah Washington had 11 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals and a block while Phil Starks subbed in and scored 11 points, had 7 boards, 5 steals and 2 assists. Tre'Von Perry added 10 points and Jimmy Louissaint had 9. Luis Bridtter scored 8 points and  was the game's top rebounder with 9 boards.

While I'm not happy with the outcome or the officiating I have to give Western Connecticut credit for opening up the 2nd half and taking it to the Cardinals. They immediately climbed back into this game when it would have been quite easy to fall further behind. Plattsburgh had kind of coasted through their first 2 games, turning it on and off at will. Tonight they got caught up in the press and the loss of their point guard put added pressure on other players to perform duties that they weren't accustomed to doing. Western took advantage of that and made it work to their benefit. Congratulations to the Colonials and to my buddy, 7 express. (By the way plus K the first) This win will look good on Western's resume and it will only look better as the season progresses. The Colonials should be in the hunt along with Eastern and Rhode Island for the LEC crown. Plattsburgh will end up with a solid resume as well, I believe, and this loss will serve as a learning experience that will come in handy down the road. Coach Curle will make sure of that.                           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 10:17:29 AM
Games on tap for Saturday 11-22-14

New Paltz State  vs  Gordon        1:00 PM   
Chuck Resler Tournament @ Rochester, NY

New Paltz tries once again to get their first win of the season. And once again they are the underdogs, this time by a 5 point margin. Gordon also is winless but has played tougher competition. I think the Fighting Scots will walk off the floor with a 72-65 victory.
   
   
St. Lawrence   @     Brockport State        2:00 PM

The Saints played Oswego State tough yesterday, in their opening game of the season. They hung around despite falling behind by 17 points with 7:20 left in the game. They fought back to get within 4 points losing 62-58. The Golden Eagles are 0-2 losing a tough game to   
Rhode Island before dropping a not so close game to Roanoke. I think Brockport, an 11 point favorite, will get their initial win of the season today 75-67.

   
Eastern Connecticut     @   Oneonta State          2:00 PM     
Mayor's Cup Hosted by Hartwick College @ Oneonta, NY

This one should be a good game and will tell us a lot about the Red Dragons and where they might rank in the SUNYAC pecking order. The Warriors from Eastern Connecticut will be at or near the top of the LEC conference this year. They are currently 3-1 after suffering a setback yesterday at the hands of Hartwick. The oddsmakers have made Eastern a 6 point favorite. I'd like to pick Oneonta here but I think that the Warriors will come away with the W. Eastern Connecticut 76 Oneonta 71, but I sure hope I'm wrong on this one. 
   
Trinity (Conn.)     @   Cortland State        4:00 PM   
Cortaca Classic   

This is the 3rd game involving a NESCAC opponent with a SUNYAC team. Each conference has won a game. The 2-0 Red Dragons are a slight 5 point favorite over the 2-1 Bantams. I'm going with Cortland here to keep their record unblemished. They win it by a final score of 69-65.

Geneseo State    vs   Rose-Hulman        5:00 PM   
Stephanie Tubbs Jones Memorial Tournament @ Cleveland, Ohio

This matchup of 2 NCAA teams from last season is the featured game of the day.
The Blue Knights lost a heartbreaker yesterday falling to Wilmington by an 83-81 score. Rose-Hulman also dropped a close game to the host team in this tournament, Case Western Reserve, by a 79-74 margin. Expect another close game today from 2 NCAA tournament teams. The Engineers have been made a slight 1 point favorite but I think that Geneseo will get the win here. Gordon Lyons opened his senior year with a monstrous double double of 28 points and 15 rebounds. The Knights should have went to him inside for their final shot to tie the game but instead took a chance at a 3 pointer for the win and it didn't go down. I look for the Knights to win this one by a score of 80-75.   

Games that were cancelled or postponed due to all the snow in western NY:

Fredonia   @  Medaille       Postponed

Pine Manor  @  Buffalo State    Cancelled

Potsdam State  @  Hilbert    Postponed

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 03:16:44 PM
New Paltz loses to Gordon 78-73 in overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 03:18:49 PM
Brockport leads St Lawrence 47-42 with 10 minutes left in the game.

Oneonta trails Eastern Connecticut 78-62 with 5:29  to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
Final scores:

Brockport squeaks by St. Lawrence by a 66-63 score

Oneonta hangs with Eastern Connecticut but a 15-4 run early in the 2nd half dooms the Red Dragons. They lose by a final of 101-78 and fall from the unbeaten ranks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 04:54:18 PM
Cortland leads Trinity College 35-29 at the half. Lamard Herron with 11 points to lead the Red Dragons. Blair Estarfaa and Shayne Martinez both with 7 points.

Trinity's George Papadeas has 15 points and 6 rebounds to pace the Bantams.

Trinity opened up with an 8-0 lead before the Red Dragons found their stride. They caught the Bantams at 12 apiece with 13 minutes to go in the half. They were down 10-5 when they went on an 18-2 run to grab a commanding 23-12 advantage. Trinity cut it to a 5 point margin at 23-18 with 6 unanswered points but Cortland built it back to double figures before settling on the 6 point halftime edge.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
Geneseo with an 11 point halftime lead over Rose-Hulman 37-26. Gordon Lyons with a double double at the break of 14 points and 11 rebounds. Freshman Kevin Crockett has 10 points and hasn't missed a 3 point attempt all weekend.



Knights now up 49-34 with 13:55 left to play. Crockett now with 15 points and has made 8x8 from downtown yesterday and today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
Cortland gives the SUNYAC the lead against the NESCAC (we're up 2-1 now) as the Red Dragons defeat Trinity(Conn) 72-63. Lamard Herron led all scorers with a big game as he poured in 29 points. Lamard was 9x18 from the field, 6x12 from downtown and 5x6 from the line. Shayne Martinez had 11 points and Blair Estarfaa had 10.

Cortland improves to 3-0 and will not be back in action until December 2nd when they host crosstown rival Ithaca at 5:30 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2014, 08:18:59 PM
Geneseo wins the consolation game of the Case Western Reserve Tournament as they defeat Rose-Hulman by a 73-57 final score.

Gordon Lyons has another double double of 23 points and 15 rebounds. He also added another 5 assists as the big guy may end up with more assists than half the point guards in the country. Freshman Kevin Crockett scored 17 points and has now gone 8x8 from long distance in his first 2 games in a Knights uniform. Kevin had 21 points yesterday in his Geneseo debut. Andy Drescher scored 16 points today and James McKenna added 12.

The Knights even their record at 1-1 and will be back in action on Tuesday night when they travel to Morrisville State to take on the Mustangs at 7:00 PM

Gordon Lyons has opened the season on a tear and he is the leading candidate for the SUNYAC Player of the Week after the first 2 games of his Senior season. He left no doubt why he was selected as a D3hoops preseason All American. He was named to the 2nd Team but if he continues to put up numbers like he did this weekend the boys at this website will have no choice but to bump him up to the 1st team at year's end. Last year Gordon had 17 double doubles in 28 games. He may break that mark this season. Here is the 2 day total that Gordon put up this weekend. With numbers like these, I hope that the school nominates him for the D3hoops Team of the Week...I think he's a lock.

51 points...23 today and 28 yesterday
30 rebounds...15 today and 15 yesterday
10 assists 5 each day... He now leads the team in that category as well.
17x24 from the field 70.8 %
17x21 from the line 80.9%
Played 78 out of 80 minutes
Ast/TO   2.0   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 22, 2014, 10:35:57 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 22, 2014, 08:18:59 PM
Geneseo wins the consolation game of the Case Western Reserve Tournament as they defeat Rose-Hulman by a 73-57 final score.

Gordon Lyons has another double double of 23 points and 15 rebounds. He also added another 5 assists as the big guy may end up with more assists than half the point guards in the country. Freshman Kevin Crockett scored 17 points and has now gone 8x8 from long distance in his first 2 games in a Knights uniform. Kevin had 21 points yesterday in his Geneseo debut. Andy Drescher scored 16 points today and James McKenna added 12.

The Knights even their record at 1-1 and will be back in action on Tuesday night when they travel to Morrisville State to take on the Mustangs at 7:00 PM

Gordon Lyons has opened the season on a tear and he is the leading candidate for the SUNYAC Player of the Week after the first 2 games of his Senior season. He left no doubt why he was selected as a D3hoops preseason All American. He was named to the 2nd Team but if he continues to put up numbers like he did this weekend the boys at this website will have no choice but to bump him up to the 1st team at year's end. Last year Gordon had 17 double doubles in 28 games. He may break that mark this season. Here is the 2 day total that Gordon put up this weekend. With numbers like these, I hope that the school nominates him for the D3hoops Team of the Week...I think he's a lock.

51 points...23 today and 28 yesterday
30 rebounds...15 today and 15 yesterday
10 assists 5 each day... He now leads the team in that category as well.
17x24 from the field 70.8 %
17x21 from the line 80.9%
Played 78 out of 80 minutes
Ast/TO   2.0   

If he doesn't make D3 team of the week, then I'm not gonna bother looking at that team any more this season!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2014, 01:19:15 AM
Watching the local news tonight here in Plattsburgh and the news anchor talked about the large number of trucks, plows and men from our area highway departments that have made the trip out to Buffalo to help the Queen City with their snow removal problem.

We, here in the North Country, remember back in 1998 when the Ice Storm of the Century hit our area and there was no power for the better part of a week. Crews from the western part of the state, downstate, and even from many other states all came to the Plattsburgh area to help us out.

Now that the time has come with a chance to return that favor, our men and machines were quickly on their way. The news was showing pictures of truck after truck being loaded with snow to help alleviate the flooding problems that will occur tomorrow with the high temperatures moving into the region. 

The local weatherman for our region traveled to Buffalo today and will be giving us live updates tomorrow and broadcasting the evening weather from there. He was telling us how the area received their entire year's annual snowfall in the past few days.

I live in the North Country, about as far north as you can go in New York State. I look out my window and there's about an inch, maybe 2 inches of snow on the ground and that will all be gone by noon tomorrow. I see the pictures from Buffalo and it looks like those people are living on another planet in a galaxy far, far, away.

So I hope tomorrow (actually today since it's after 1:00 AM) that my friend in Buffalo and all his friends in Buffalo make it through the next few days without any more headaches and heartaches. Happy to hear that you were able to leave the house today to get some work in but  ease back into life's daily routines nice and slow.

We're thinking of you here in the 'Burgh. I'll send you all the karma I can, my friend.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
The SUNYAC has played 26 games in the first 8 days of the season. The storm in western NY has caused a number of postponements and some cancellations. Buffalo State lost 2 games because their Coles Classic Tournament was cancelled. The conference record for the 26 games played so far is 14-12. 2 games, a win by Fredonia and a loss by Potsdam won't count as they were against non D3 schools.

The SUNYAC, as of November 23rd, is currently ranked #15 out of 47 conferences by the Massey Ratings System.   By comparison the other East Region conferences have the following rankings:

The Liberty League is ranked #21

The Empire 8 is ranked #33

The North Eastern Athletic Conf. is ranked #43
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2014, 12:21:51 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 23, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
The SUNYAC has played 26 games in the first 8 days of the season. The storm in western NY has caused a number of postponements and some cancellations. Buffalo State lost 2 games because their Coles Classic Tournament was cancelled. The conference record for the 26 games played so far is 14-12. 2 games, a win by Fredonia and a loss by Potsdam won't count as they were against non D3 schools.

The SUNYAC, as of November 23rd, is currently ranked #15 out of 47 conferences by the Massey Ratings System.   By comparison the other East Region conferences have the following rankings:

The Liberty League is ranked #21

The Empire 8 is ranked #33

The North Eastern Athletic Conf. is ranked #43

Wow with the cancelattions in WNY we are better than half way thru the Non confernce schedule (for 'Yac teams, not including the Wendy's tournanment). Approx 24 OOC games left and a improved Massey rating may come down to New Paltz and Oneonta's results vs Roanoke college (out of the #10th highest rated conference -ODAC) and Plattsburgh vs Keene (currently undefeated and out of the LEC-rated 13th) and perennial NCAA participant Middlebury, (NESCAC - 4 rated conf -). The other OOC remaining contests are versus conf foes who are rated below the 'Yac ( and that can always change too).

I have no doubt that 3 teams from the 'Yac got invited to the dance last year because of our top 10 Massey rating. Hoping that our collective results get better before we start to beat up on each other Dec 5th! Here's to hoping that my beloved BENGALS will do their part this Tuesday at Hobart! ;)

Go BENGALS!!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2014, 04:43:52 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2014, 12:21:51 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 23, 2014, 08:31:37 AM
The SUNYAC has played 26 games in the first 8 days of the season. The storm in western NY has caused a number of postponements and some cancellations. Buffalo State lost 2 games because their Coles Classic Tournament was cancelled. The conference record for the 26 games played so far is 14-12. 2 games, a win by Fredonia and a loss by Potsdam won't count as they were against non D3 schools.

The SUNYAC, as of November 23rd, is currently ranked #15 out of 47 conferences by the Massey Ratings System.   By comparison the other East Region conferences have the following rankings:

The Liberty League is ranked #21

The Empire 8 is ranked #33

The North Eastern Athletic Conf. is ranked #43

Wow with the cancelattions in WNY we are better than half way thru the Non confernce schedule (for 'Yac teams, not including the Wendy's tournanment). Approx 24 OOC games left and a improved Massey rating may come down to New Paltz and Oneonta's results vs Roanoke college (out of the #10th highest rated conference -ODAC) and Plattsburgh vs Keene (currently undefeated and out of the LEC-rated 13th) and perennial NCAA participant Middlebury, (NESCAC - 4 rated conf -). The other OOC remaining contests are versus conf foes who are rated below the 'Yac ( and that can always change too).

I have no doubt that 3 teams from the 'Yac got invited to the dance last year because of our top 10 Massey rating. Hoping that our collective results get better before we start to beat up on each other Dec 5th! Here's to hoping that my beloved BENGALS will do their part this Tuesday at Hobart! ;)

Go BENGALS!!! :)

Has to be more than 24 out of conference games left, Champ. 10 teams in the YAC each play 7 OOC games = 70 total OOC games. The only cancelled games that I know of were the Buff State pair in the Coles Tournament. The rest were re-scheduled I believe. 70-26 already played-2 cancelled =42 left to play. Maybe I'm 1 or 2 off because some YAC team didn't have a full 25 game schedule laid out but by my count we have at least 40 games left to play OOC. That's a heck of a lot more than 24!!! ;D ???   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2014, 06:21:37 AM
Just 1 game involving a SUNYAC team today.

Plattsburgh State at Skidmore  7:00 PM

This is a match up of 2 teams that should be at or near the top of their respective conferences. Skidmore was chosen to come in 2nd in the Liberty League in their preseason coaches poll. Vassar College, the team that was picked to win the league defeated New Paltz 70-61 last week and Brockport edged St Lawrence 69-66 on Saturday in the only 2 Liberty League-SUNYAC pairings so far.

Skidmore is a single point from having a perfect record as they dropped a 75-74 decision to Babson on Saturday after opening the season with wins over Ithaca and Castleton State. They return 4 starters from last year including their top 2 scoring threats and 4 of their top 5. Leading the way is their All Conference 6'4" junior point guard, Aldin Medunjanin, who is averaging 16.7 ppg, 7.3 rpg and 5.0 apg. Connor Merrill, a 6'6" senior forward, is close behind with a 16.0 ppg average and a team leading 8.7 rpg. He also leads the team in blocks with 6 in 3 games. Last year's leading scorer, 6'5"senior forward Erik Sanders, is averaging 14 points, with 4 boards per game, and is the leading 3 point shooter on the team. Another senior forward, 6'6" Perun Kovacevic, the 4th returning starter, averages 10.7 ppg and 7.3 rpg. So the Brewers return a ton of talent from a team that went 16-10 last year. This is the biggest team they've had in some time but the one thing they lack is a deep bench. They only have 7 players that get double digit minutes and 4 of their starters play 29 to 36 minutes a game.

Plattsburgh also comes into this game with a 2-1 record after dropping a close decision at Western Connecticut last Friday night. The Cardinals were missing their starting point guard Mike Mitchell, in that game and he is questionable for tonight's contest. Plattsburgh has a versatile lineup that can score points in bunches and any one of 8 different players can lead the way. In 3 games so far 3 different players have led the team in scoring. Two of the teams four leading scorers, Jordon Moody and Kyle Richardson have come off the bench, and the top returning scorer from last year is currently the 6th leading scorer this year. The Cardinals use a 10 man rotation, and even if Mitchell is unavailable for the game tonight they will still bring a 10th man into the game as they can go 12 deep if necessary.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 5 point road favorite. That seems reasonable but I think that Plattsburgh will win by a slightly bigger margin. I'm taking the Cardinals by an 80-72 final score. I will be making the trip south to see this game in person. The weather is supposed to cooperate with temperatures approaching 60 degrees. Might as well take advantage of the last stretch of good weather we might have for quite some time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 24, 2014, 12:57:42 PM

Has to be more than 24 out of conference games left, Champ. 10 teams in the YAC each play 7 OOC games = 70 total OOC games. The only cancelled games that I know of were the Buff State pair in the Coles Tournament. The rest were re-scheduled I believe. 70-26 already played-2 cancelled =42 left to play. Maybe I'm 1 or 2 off because some YAC team didn't have a full 25 game schedule laid out but by my count we have at least 40 games left to play OOC. That's a heck of a lot more than 24!!! ;D ???
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The Potsdam web site says our games vs. John Carroll and at Hilbert are "Cancelled".  Hilbert's site says "Postponed".  The games have disappeared from John Carroll's site.  Hilbert is right in the middle of the snow belt only about a mile from Ralph Wilson Stadium. 

Bears have non conference tilts left at Clarkson, Skidmore, and SLU.  We break for Thanksgiving tomorrow evening, are back for two weeks, then finals until 12/19. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2014, 11:50:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 23, 2014, 01:19:15 AM
Watching the local news tonight here in Plattsburgh and the news anchor talked about the large number of trucks, plows and men from our area highway departments that have made the trip out to Buffalo to help the Queen City with their snow removal problem.

We, here in the North Country, remember back in 1998 when the Ice Storm of the Century hit our area and there was no power for the better part of a week. Crews from the western part of the state, downstate, and even from many other states all came to the Plattsburgh area to help us out.

Now that the time has come with a chance to return that favor, our men and machines were quickly on their way. The news was showing pictures of truck after truck being loaded with snow to help alleviate the flooding problems that will occur tomorrow with the high temperatures moving into the region. 

The local weatherman for our region traveled to Buffalo today and will be giving us live updates tomorrow and broadcasting the evening weather from there. He was telling us how the area received their entire year's annual snowfall in the past few days.

I live in the North Country, about as far north as you can go in New York State. I look out my window and there's about an inch, maybe 2 inches of snow on the ground and that will all be gone by noon tomorrow. I see the pictures from Buffalo and it looks like those people are living on another planet in a galaxy far, far, away.

So I hope tomorrow (actually today since it's after 1:00 AM) that my friend in Buffalo and all his friends in Buffalo make it through the next few days without any more headaches and heartaches. Happy to hear that you were able to leave the house today to get some work in but  ease back into life's daily routines nice and slow.

We're thinking of you here in the 'Burgh. I'll send you all the karma I can, my friend.         

Damn...dont know how I missed this earlier :-[. Thanks much buddy! I'll be sure to share with Faj, Kevin and the fellas!  Very thoughtful!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 24, 2014, 12:57:42 PM

Has to be more than 24 out of conference games left, Champ. 10 teams in the YAC each play 7 OOC games = 70 total OOC games. The only cancelled games that I know of were the Buff State pair in the Coles Tournament. The rest were re-scheduled I believe. 70-26 already played-2 cancelled =42 left to play. Maybe I'm 1 or 2 off because some YAC team didn't have a full 25 game schedule laid out but by my count we have at least 40 games left to play OOC. That's a heck of a lot more than 24!!! ;D ???

The Potsdam web site says our games vs. John Carroll and at Hilbert are "Cancelled".  Hilbert's site says "Postponed".  The games have disappeared from John Carroll's site.  Hilbert is right in the middle of the snow belt only about a mile from Ralph Wilson Stadium. 

Bears have non conference tilts left at Clarkson, Skidmore, and SLU.  We break for Thanksgiving tomorrow evening, are back for two weeks, then finals until 12/19.
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I didn't include the 6 games that Geneseo and Brockport would play in the Wendys. We had 2 cancelled and Fredonia lost 2 also. There's some more missing somewhere else  :-[. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say maybe 29 left, with 25 left in 2014 and 4 in 2015  (not including Wendys tourney games since Geneseo and B'port could play each other). ;). I, however yield to my friend from the north country who has been doing this far longer than I!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2014, 12:07:40 AM
Oh BTW...Congrats to the Cards who defeated Skidmore in OT. I expect the Magicmans report around 2:16 a.m.. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2014, 05:17:38 AM
Back home from the Plattsburgh State-Skidmore game won by the Cardinals 60-57 in overtime. Got my money's worth tonight with an old fashioned barn burner.

The Cardinals didn't play a very good half of basketball in the opening stanza of this game. They shot 28.6% from the field (8x28), 9.1% from long distance (1x11) and 50% from the stripe (4x8). They were out rebounded 26 to 18 and committed 8 turnovers to 5 for the Thoroughbreds. They were lucky to be only down by 11 at the break. We scored the 1st basket on a layup by Reggie Smith and after 2 baskets by Skidmore, Ezra Hodgson hit a trifecta to put us in front 5-4. The Cardinals wouldn't be in front again until the latter stages of the overtime period. Connor Merrill had the hot hand for the Thoroughbreds and they rode his shotmaking to a gradual 24-14 advantage, with 8:31 left in the period. Merrill had 11 of those 24 Skidmore points. The lead drifted back and forth from 6 to 11 points and reached the biggest margin when Nanribet Yiljep hit a layup and 1 to make it 32-19 with 2 minutes left in the half. A pair of Mike Mitchell free throws cut the lead to 11 at the break.

The Cardinals' Coach Curle must have given his players the business during the break because they came out of the locker room and quickly cut into the deficit to get within 5 points with only 1:51 gone in the period. Mike Mitchell's back to back 3 pointers and a pair of inside moves by big man Reggie Williams helped get the Cards in a more favorable position. The Thoroughbreds now knew that this game was going to be a dogfight and would, in all probability go right down to the wire. The teams didn't disappoint. They weren't separated by more than 2 possessions for the remainder of the game. The first 12 points of the period for the Cards were scored by Mitchell and Williams, with 6 each. Eddie Correa got the Cards within 4 at 39-35 with a layup and then Shamoy McIntosh took over scoring 6 straight points for Plattsburgh, the last coming on a 3 pointer that tied the score at 41 with 5:19 to play. After Merrill hit a 3 pointer to put Skidmore back in front by 3, McIntosh was fouled and made both to close the gap to a single point. Mitchell countered a pair of free throws made by Skidmore's Aldin Medunjanin, the Thoroughbreds' Erik Sanders scored inside and Eddie Corea nailed a big 3 pointer to tie the score at 48. Each team then got a pair of free throws and both got an inside move to leave the team tied at the buzzer. Plattsburgh's final regulation points came from Reggie Williams with 33 ticks left.

Skidmore scored 1st in the extra period hitting 1 of 2 free throws and then Connor Merrill scored the last of his 20 points to put the Thoroughbreds up by 3. The Cards' Kyle Richardson was fouled going to the hoop and hit both free throws to narrow the gap, but Skidmore's D1 transfer, Royce Paris, countered with a pair from the stripe to build the lead back to 3 points. McIntosh went to the line to hit a pair of clutch foul shots for Plattsburgh and then both teams misfired on their next 2 possessions. With 1:46 seconds remaining in the game, Richardson who is beginning to make a habit of late game heroics, nailed a 3 pointer that gave the Cardinals their first lead, 59-57, since the opening minutes of the game. With a chance to tie the score from the line, Skidmore missed 2 free throws and the Cards rebounded, only to turn it over seconds later. Skidmore went inside for the tying shot but McIntosh blocked the layup and Plattsburgh rebounded the ball and tried to add to their lead. The Cards couldn't convert inside and Skidmore came down with the ball in the hands of Paris. The Skidmore guard's drive to the basket was well defended by McIntosh as Paris came up empty and McIntosh came away with the rebound. He was fouled and made 1 of 2 to make it 60-57. Skidmore called timeout to set up a game tying 3 pointer but Paris' shot was blocked by Reggie Williams and the Cards had clawed their way back from a 13 point defict to grab the win.

Reggie Williams was too much for Skidmore to handle inside tonight as the big guy had a career high 17 points to lead the Cardinals in scoring. He completed his double-double by grabbing a game high 12 rebounds including 6 off the offensive glass. Reggie became the 4th Cardinal player in 4 games to lead the team in scoring.

Shamoy McIntosh never scored a point in the game until there was 6:35 left to play. From that point on he scored 13 points and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. He added 5 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks. He also logged a game high 39 minutes on the floor.

Point guard Mike Mitchell was back in action after missing last Friday's game and he came through with 10 points, a pair of huge 3 pointes and a clutch 4x4 from the line.

Kyle Richardson chipped in with 5 very big points, all in the overtime period, and 7 rebounds

Eddie Correa added 7 points, 5 rebounds and a pair of dimes.

Plattsburgh did improve their shooting percentages and ended up with 31.7 %, 25.0 %  and 61.5% from the field, long range and the line respectively. They ended up with a slight edge in rebounding...48 to 44 and had 16 turnovers to 11 for Skidmore.

The Thoroughbreds were led by the game's high scorer Connor Merrill who tossed down 20 points on a collection of inside moves, several bank shots and a few bombs from long range. He added 5 rebounds as well. Nanribet Yiljep tossed in 11 points and had 6 boards. Issac Carp failed to break into the scoring column but did lead the team with 10 rebounds.

The Thoroughbreds ended up with a 31.0% field goal percentage, only 4x25 from long range...16% and 73.9 % from the line.

Plattburgh improves to 3-1 as they have opened up with 4 consecutive road games. They have yet another one in their next outing when they travel to Canton, New York to take on another Liberty League club, St. Lawrence, on December 2nd when they get back from Thanksgiving break. 

Skidmore travels to Schenectady  to face Williams College in the 1st round of the Union Tournament on November 29th and will tackle Westfield State the next day.                       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2014, 05:21:13 AM
I missed the news today Champ, what's going on in the Queen City? Did the melting snow cause flooding problems?'
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
6 SUNYAC teams in action for Nov. 25

Not much time so here's some quick picks.

Brockport State @  Manhattanville        4:00 PM

The Golden Eagles are favored by 9 and they should cover the spread. Brockport wins this one 76-66

Mount St. Mary  @    New Paltz State        5:00 PM

I'm not picking the Hawks until they prove to me they can win a game. They are 2 point underdogs here at home. That means they'll probably lose 74-69.

Clarkson @ Oswego State    5:30 PM

The Golden Knights will keep this one close but they won't win it. The Lakers are favored by 3 but they will win it by 7 points, 70-63.


Geneseo State   @ Morrisville State        7:00 PM

The Knights could be undefeated if they had went to Gordon Lyons in the closing seconds in their 1st game against Wilmington instead of hoisting up a 3 pointer that didn't go down. They will go to him tonight early and often. Knights are favored by 6 points. I think they win by 16 or more. Geneseo 80 Morrisville 63.
 
Buffalo State  @  Hobart        7:00 PM

These teams are 2-2 in their past 4 meetings since 2008-09. Last year the Statesmen beat the Bengals in Buffalo by an 85-83 score. The Bengals won the matchup in Hobart 2 years ago, 80-74. They also played each other back in 08-09, and 09-10 with each team winning at home. So tonight is the 5th meeting in the past 9 years and will give the winner a leg up in the series. The point spread has Hobart favored by a 7 point margin. I think that the Bengals may sneak out of Bristol Gym with a win tonight though, by a score of something like 82-77. I think Hobart has lost more off their team from last year than the Bengals lost from their team. It should be a good game.   

Oneonta State     @   St. John Fisher        7:00 PM

The Red Dragons pulled off the upset at Williams a week ago but I think they will be hard pressed to do the same thing tonight. Fisher should be the team to beat in the E8 this year. Oneonta will keep it close though and an upset isn't impossible. I'm just not picking it as these Cardinals, a 4 point favorite, walk off with a 4 point win. 77-73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2014, 06:49:56 PM
The first final score of the day is in and the result isn't pretty. Brockport State gets outscored by a 13-3 margin over the final 5 minutes of the game and falls to Manhattanville 56-54. Up 54-50 with with 2:28 left on the clock the Golden Eagles fail to score again and Manhattanville  ties the game on a pair of free throws with 1:12 left. Both teams misfired on their next possession, first Brockport and then the Valiants, leaving the Eagles with the ball and 16 ticks left. Unfortunately Brockport turned it over with 6 seconds left and the Valiants hit a buzzer beater as the clock expired to claim the win.

Aaron White with 15 points and Clifton Lyerly with 14 were the leading scorers for Brockport. The Eagles fall to 1-3 and won't be back in action until December 3rd when they participate in the Wendy's classic.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2014, 02:55:05 AM
A Bad Day in Black Rock for the SUNYAC. It may be the worst day in 3 years as YAC teams went 1-5 on Tuesday and 3 of those losses were YAC  teams that were favored to win. Here are the scores

Brockport State 54 Manhattanville  56

Geneseo State 72   Morrisville  State 74

Buffalo State 46  Hobart 56

Oswego State 54  Clarkson 60

Oneonta State 72  St. John Fisher 83

New Paltz State 74  Mount St. Mary 57
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 26, 2014, 07:39:27 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 26, 2014, 02:55:05 AM
A Bad Day in Black Rock for the SUNYAC. It may be the worst day in 3 years as YAC teams went 1-5 on Tuesday and 3 of those losses were YAC  teams that were favored to win. Here are the scores

Brockport State 54 Manhattanville  56

Geneseo State 72   Morrisville  State 74

Buffalo State 46  Hobart 56

Oswego State 54  Clarkson 60

Oneonta State 72  St. John Fisher 83

New Paltz State 74  Mount St. Mary 57

Have to admit the Geneseo Morrisville score is a shocker.  Morrisville only returns one player for last year's excellent club and Clarkson handled them pretty easily.  And when's the last time a Buffalo State team scored 46? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2014, 09:11:48 AM
A new D3hoops Top 25 is out and the only team from the East Region with a sniff is Rochester with 1 point in the Others Receiving Votes category. We may not see an East Region team in the Top 25 the entire year. :(

Here is the link to the new poll: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2014, 02:35:42 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 26, 2014, 07:39:27 AM
Have to admit the Geneseo Morrisville score is a shocker.  Morrisville only returns one player for last year's excellent club and Clarkson handled them pretty easily.  And when's the last time a Buffalo State team scored 46?


Cant find 46 anywhere , however in 2007..

University at Buffalo (Exhib.) FRI NOV 2, 2007
UNIVERSITY AT BUFFALO (EXHIB.)
BUFFALO, NY
L 48-113

Horrible feeling at the game last night. Took 8 more shots than Hobart 569/61 and made 1 more 22/21. However they made 8  3's to our 1 and we went 1 of 11 from the free throw line. Gotta get it together before Cortland next weekend. I believe that we shall!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2014, 11:41:56 AM
I'm thankful for those guys/gals who post on these boards.  More so now, than ever.

  During football season I spent a little time on the E8 football boards ( where buff state football resides). Some of those posters have got to be the most classless individuals in America. They rip their opponents before games I.e. " this game vs"  conference opponent  "is gonna be like a scrimmage. Should beat em by 50 or more". And the name calling amongst some if these guys is even worse. On a couple of occasions, I'd swear that, if some of these guys could meet each other, there would be a fight!

I'm glad that guys like thebear, Franelia, Dcahill,  Magicman and others don't pollute our boards with that type of B.S.  And on a day like to today, I just wanna say "Thanks" to you guys for being who you are.

Happy Thanksgiving to all !!!!!!! :)

Ps. I  still want the BENGALS to win though ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2014, 02:10:17 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2014, 11:41:56 AM
I'm thankful for those guys/gals who post on these boards.  More so now, than ever.

  During football season I spent a little time on the E8 football boards ( where buff state football resides). Some of those posters have got to be the most classless individuals in America. They rip their opponents before games I.e. " this game vs"  conference opponent  "is gonna be like a scrimmage. Should beat em by 50 or more". And the name calling amongst some if these guys is even worse. On a couple of occasions, I'd swear that, if some of these guys could meet each other, there would be a fight!

I'm glad that guys like thebear, Franelia, Dcahill,  Magicman and others don't pollute our boards with that type of B.S.  And on a day like to today, I just wanna say "Thanks" to you guys for being who you are.

Happy Thanksgiving to all !!!!!!! :)

Ps. I  still want the BENGALS to win though ;)


We may have a small group of regulars but at least we have respect for each other. That's always the most important thing.

Happy Thanksgiving folks. I hope the rest of the holiday season, right on through the New Year and beyond, brings good health, good luck, good weather and the good life to everyone.

PS: I still want the Bengals to win as well. Just not on January 10th and January 30th. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 27, 2014, 02:10:17 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2014, 11:41:56 AM
I'm thankful for those guys/gals who post on these boards.  More so now, than ever.

  During football season I spent a little time on the E8 football boards ( where buff state football resides). Some of those posters have got to be the most classless individuals in America. They rip their opponents before games I.e. " this game vs"  conference opponent  "is gonna be like a scrimmage. Should beat em by 50 or more". And the name calling amongst some if these guys is even worse. On a couple of occasions, I'd swear that, if some of these guys could meet each other, there would be a fight!

I'm glad that guys like thebear, Franelia, Dcahill,  Magicman and others don't pollute our boards with that type of B.S.  And on a day like to today, I just wanna say "Thanks" to you guys for being who you are.

Happy Thanksgiving to all !!!!!!! :)

Ps. I  still want the BENGALS to win though ;)


We may have a small group of regulars but at least we have respect for each other. That's always the most important thing.

Happy Thanksgiving folks. I hope the rest of the holiday season, right on through the New Year and beyond, brings good health, good luck, good weather and the good life to everyone.

PS: I still want the Bengals to win as well. Just not on January 10th and January 30th. ;D

How can you not  like the Magicman?? ;D ;) :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2014, 05:17:15 AM
D3hoops Team of the Week was released and the guy with the best stat lines in the country (other than the Grinell player) for his 2 games, Gordon Lyons, is nowhere to be found. Hard to believe he wasn't nominated by his school, but that has to be the case....Or D3hoops missed the boat big time. The thing about Lyons though, is his stats will be so good this year, that he could make the Team of the Week, every week.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 28, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
Indeed, not nominated.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2014, 01:30:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 28, 2014, 05:17:15 AM
D3hoops Team of the Week was released and the guy with the best stat lines in the country (other than the Grinell player) for his 2 games, Gordon Lyons, is nowhere to be found. Hard to believe he wasn't nominated by his school, but that has to be the case....Or D3hoops missed the boat big time. The thing about Lyons though, is his stats will be so good this year, that he could make the Team of the Week, every week.

Thanks Pat. I was hoping you'd see my post and comment. It just amazes me that a player can have such an outstanding week and someone at the school can't take 5 minutes to give the guy a chance to get some national recognition. :o This isn't the first time it's happened. I'm sure it won't be the last. :P

I realize it's impossible for D3hoops to know how every player performed from every D3 school each week to compile their Team of the Week. That's why a player has to be nominated, I assume.

It's too bad posters such as hopefan with the SLIAC, nescac1 with the NESCAC, TitanQ with the CCIW, 7express with the LEC, or myself with the SUNYAC to name just a few, can't go to a specific site and post information that will be acceptable by you, to compile these special awards. Most conferences have 1 or more posters that consistently report accurate facts and statistics that would help you considerably. You could even designate these posters to specifically do this job for their respective conferences. I'm sure most of these guys would step forward if asked and for some of the conferences that don't have a person like a hopefan...well perhaps this would encourage someone to become that person...all of which would benefit D3hoops, in the long run, and would certainly benefit numerous players such as Gordon Lyons, to get the recognition they deserve.

I remember a comment you made several years ago. Something to the effect of... the more eyes we have on the topic the better off we will be...referring to posters in numbers checking out and commenting on the topic. (And I can't remember what the topic was, it may have been NCAA rule related) I think the same type of logic in some limited form might work with these special awards as well. 

Just a thought that I hope you consider.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 28, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
There's a couple problems with that -- first of all, fans don't have the box score game file to upload (and I can't give you access to upload it, even if you did). We will not accept nominations without the official stats uploaded, and since timely box scores are valuable to us, this is something we want to push.

Secondly, we want and need SIDs to participate. This is a collective, like the Associated Press. Schools put information in and get coverage out of it. If we just had schools fish and they do not fish for themselves, then Gordon Mann and I are stuck punching in missing scores for a team all season. The SUNYAC (and the East Region in general) is a big hole for us in those terms and the more time we spend handing out fish, the less time we can spend on the important strategic things we need to do to elevate our coverage and the sites across the board.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2014, 06:02:23 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 28, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
There's a couple problems with that -- first of all, fans don't have the box score game file to upload (and I can't give you access to upload it, even if you did). We will not accept nominations without the official stats uploaded, and since timely box scores are valuable to us, this is something we want to push.

Secondly, we want and need SIDs to participate. This is a collective, like the Associated Press. Schools put information in and get coverage out of it. If we just had schools fish and they do not fish for themselves, then Gordon Mann and I are stuck punching in missing scores for a team all season. The SUNYAC (and the East Region in general) is a big hole for us in those terms and the more time we spend handing out fish, the less time we can spend on the important strategic things we need to do to elevate our coverage and the sites across the board.

Just wishing and hoping....never expecting (sighs deeply) :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 29, 2014, 04:23:16 PM
Magicman...."Just wishing and hoping.."    Sounds like good lyrics for a song! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 29, 2014, 04:23:16 PM
Magicman...."Just wishing and hoping.."    Sounds like good lyrics for a song! :)

Back when we were, oh so young, amh63...Dusty Springfield, 1964 top ten hit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgXGIXen8Q
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 29, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
Magicman...knew it was some lyric to a song...was pulling your chain!  Thanks for identifying the song and the singer of the hit!   Plus K.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2014, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 29, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 29, 2014, 04:23:16 PM
Magicman...."Just wishing and hoping.."    Sounds like good lyrics for a song! :)

Back when we were, oh so young, amh63...Dusty Springfield, 1964 top ten hit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgXGIXen8Q

Im guessing that in 1964 the Magicman was about-- years old. (fill in the age if any of you dare).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2014, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 29, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 29, 2014, 04:23:16 PM
Magicman...."Just wishing and hoping.."    Sounds like good lyrics for a song! :)

Back when we were, oh so young, amh63...Dusty Springfield, 1964 top ten hit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgXGIXen8Q

Im guessing that in 1964 the Magicman was about 17 years old. (fill in the age if any of you dare).

I dare and I did, Bengalsrule. amh63 You're not that much older than me but you are older and I always defer to wise older men. You would have have been 22 or 23 I'm guessing. ??? ;D and Bengalsrule is just a baby still, can't even say he was alive in the 60's, can he. ??? May have been a toddler then, but I'm guessing less than 2 years old when 1960 rolled around.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 30, 2014, 08:48:06 AM
A little off topic here.....but you are correct wrt to my age....it was a very changing world then but a "tidal wave" time when talking about music.   Folk music was still popular but the Beatles had started to make an impact.  In '64 spent some time in NYC going to clubs in the Village...as well as going back to Amherst to hear and see Pres. Kennedy dedicate the new Robert Frost library....just months before his death.  Times were changing fast as was the music....like the lyrics of that composer/singer from northern Minn.  or was it words from some other folk music group....yes times they are a changing still! :) my friend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2014, 01:43:49 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 30, 2014, 08:48:06 AM
A little off topic here.....but you are correct wrt to my age....it was a very changing world then but a "tidal wave" time when talking about music.   Folk music was still popular but the Beatles had started to make an impact.  In '64 spent some time in NYC going to clubs in the Village...as well as going back to Amherst to hear and see Pres. Kennedy dedicate the new Robert Frost library....just months before his death.  Times were changing fast as was the music....like the lyrics of that composer/singer from northern Minn.  or was it words from some other folk music group....yes times they are a changing still! :) my friend.

amh63,

The library dedication must have been in the fall of 1963, not 1964. President Kennedy was assassinated in November of 1963. I'm guessing you graduated in May of 1963 and went back to Amherst for a visit in the fall of '63 for the President's visit. Probably seemed like it was next year since you were no longer a student. (At Amherst anyway...since I believe you then went to MIT) At our age everything seems to run together. ::) Hard to keep the dates straight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 30, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
Magicman....true on many dates, my friend.  Need to correct the timeline a bit.  After Amherst, went to UCONN in Storrs as a teaching assist in the Physics Dept....there I made a fool of myself following the UConn MBB team of Toby Kimball and Tom Penders, etc....met my wife, and one of my best friends.  Decided nuclear physics was not my thing.....and later married and went off to MIT for other degrees and a full career in DOD.. ending in nuclear submarines, etc...go figure. My friend at UConn grad school had an in with the music industry...related by marriage to the manager of Bob Dylan...from Minn. with the last name of Zimmerman....Peter, Paul and Mary, and other top singers.  At Amherst, heard Buffy St. Marie, Pete Seeger...arranged by a frat brother/roommate...and others.  Most fortunate for me with my music experiences.  Even at my 50th College Reunion in 2013....there was a private concert for my class by the "official" Platters.  Brought back many memories  and good times for classmates and our families as we danced to the tunes. :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2014, 06:33:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 29, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2014, 08:57:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 29, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 29, 2014, 04:23:16 PM
Magicman...."Just wishing and hoping.."    Sounds like good lyrics for a song! :)

Back when we were, oh so young, amh63...Dusty Springfield, 1964 top ten hit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgXGIXen8Q

Im guessing that in 1964 the Magicman was about 17 years old. (fill in the age if any of you dare).

I dare and I did, Bengalsrule. amh63 You're not that much older than me but you are older and I always defer to wise older men. You would have have been 22 or 23 I'm guessing. ??? ;D and Bengalsrule is just a baby still, can't even say he was alive in the 60's, can he. ??? May have been a toddler then, but I'm guessing less than 2 years old when 1960 rolled around.

Oh Magic 1, you have me by a decade (10 years) to be exact!   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 06:40:55 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll is out. No team from the East Region receives a single point. :P

Here's the link: http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2014-15/week2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:57:13 AM
Games on tap for SUNYAC temas on Dec. 2. Lots of rivalries in these matchups.   

Ithaca  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM
The Red Dragons look to continue their undefeated ways. Ithaca trying to start a win streak. I think the Bombers are up against it here. Point spread favors Cortland by 14 points. Common opponents were Trinity (Conn.) and Farmingdale State. Red Dragons beat Trinity by 9 while Ithaca lost to them by 26. Both teams beat Farmingdale by double digits. Cortland wins this one by double digits to stay unbeaten. Final score is 78-68. 


Clarkson  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM
Crosstown rivals with their annual meeting. The Golden Knights have dominated this series recently as they hold an 8-3 edge over the Bears in the past 8 years. Potsdam has only played 2 games this season as a tournament they were scheduled to play at Hilbert was cancelled due to the massive snowstorm in the Buffalo area. Bears could have used those games to tune up for the weekend SUNYAC games on tap. They will be behind the 8 ball in this match up with Clarkson. The Golden knights are undefeated at 5-0 and off to their best start in maybe forever. They defeated Oswego State 60-54 at Oswego last Tuesday and are favored by double digits in this game as the oddsmakers have made them a 10 point favorite. I hope the Bears pull off the upset here, but it's hard to pick them to do so. I think the John Coleman led Knights will be too much and Clarkson will walk out of Jerry Welsh Gym with a 70-63 victory.   
   
   
Plattsburgh State  at  St. Lawrence        8:00 PM
The Cardinals look to make it 2 wins in a row over Liberty League opponents as they come off a hard fought overtime win at Skidmore a week ago. The Saints are 0-2 in SUNYAC play having lost  road games to Oswego and Brockport by 3 and 4 points respectively. Plattsburgh has won the last 5 meetings as the Saints have to go back to the 2008-09 season to find their last win over the Cards. I think the drought will continue for another year. The point spread favors the Cardinals by 9 points and I think they will cover that and win by a 79-67 margin. 
   
   
Fredonia State  at  Alfred        8:00 PM
The Blue Devils have a tough time winning against anybody and now they have to play Alfred on the road after missing 2 games because of the same snowstorm that affected Potsdam. Last year Alfred won by 10 points in Fredonia. Not sure this year's bunch of Saxons is as good but not sure this year's bunch of Blue Knights has improved over last year's 6-19 squad. Losing to Canton doesn't give me a great deal of confidence in Fredonia. Alfred is favored by 10 points in this game and the Saxons are averaging almost 84 ppg. I think they win it 84-71.     
   
Hartwick  at  Oneonta State        8:00 PM
Another pair of crosstown rivals meeting for bragging rights that have been tilted toward Hartwick for the past 4 years. Both of these teams own an early season upset. Oneonta defeated Williams right out of the gate and Hartwick beat current Top 25 team Eastern Connecticut back on Nov. 21st, dropping the Warriors from the unbeaten ranks. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a home favorite of 5 points in a game that should go right down to the wire. The common opponents would give the edge to the Hawks as they beat Eastern Connecticut by 3 points while Oneonta lost to that team by a 101-78 score. I'm still going with the home team here and will take the Red Dragons to win it by a 75-72 score.

Hope we fare better than we did the last time the SUNYAC teams took the court.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2014, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:57:13 AM
Games on tap for SUNYAC temas on Dec. 2. Lots of rivalries in these matchups.   

Ithaca  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM
The Red Dragons look to continue their undefeated ways. Ithaca trying to start a win streak. I think the Bombers are up against it here. Point spread favors Cortland by 14 points. Common opponents were Trinity (Conn.) and Farmingdale State. Red Dragons beat Trinity by 9 while Ithaca lost to them by 26. Both teams beat Farmingdale by double digits. Cortland wins this one by double digits to stay unbeaten. Final score is 78-68. 


Clarkson  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM
Crosstown rivals with their annual meeting. The Golden Knights have dominated this series recently as they hold an 8-3 edge over the Bears in the past 8 years. Potsdam has only played 2 games this season as a tournament they were scheduled to play at Hilbert was cancelled due to the massive snowstorm in the Buffalo area. Bears could have used those games to tune up for the weekend SUNYAC games on tap. They will be behind the 8 ball in this match up with Clarkson. The Golden knights are undefeated at 5-0 and off to their best start in maybe forever. They defeated Oswego State 60-54 at Oswego last Tuesday and are favored by double digits in this game as the oddsmakers have made them a 10 point favorite. I hope the Bears pull off the upset here, but it's hard to pick them to do so. I think the John Coleman led Knights will be too much and Clarkson will walk out of Jerry Welsh Gym with a 70-63 victory.   
   
   
Plattsburgh State  at  St. Lawrence        8:00 PM
The Cardinals look to make it 2 wins in a row over Liberty League opponents as they come off a hard fought overtime win at Skidmore a week ago. The Saints are 0-2 in SUNYAC play having lost  road games to Oswego and Brockport by 3 and 4 points respectively. Plattsburgh has won the last 5 meetings as the Saints have to go back to the 2008-09 season to find their last win over the Cards. I think the drought will continue for another year. The point spread favors the Cardinals by 9 points and I think they will cover that and win by a 79-67 margin. 
   
   
Fredonia State  at  Alfred        8:00 PM
The Blue Devils have a tough time winning against anybody and now they have to play Alfred on the road after missing 2 games because of the same snowstorm that affected Potsdam. Last year Alfred won by 10 points in Fredonia. Not sure this year's bunch of Saxons is as good but not sure this year's bunch of Blue Knights has improved over last year's 6-19 squad. Losing to Canton doesn't give me a great deal of confidence in Fredonia. Alfred is favored by 10 points in this game and the Saxons are averaging almost 84 ppg. I think they win it 84-71.     
   
Hartwick  at  Oneonta State        8:00 PM
Another pair of crosstown rivals meeting for bragging rights that have been titled toward Hartwick for the past 4 years. Both of these teams own an early season upset. Oneonta defeated Williams right out of the gate and Hartwick beat current Top 25 team Eastern Connecticut back on Nov. 21st, dropping the Warriors from the unbeaten ranks. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a home favorite of 5 points in a game that should go wire down to the wire. The common opponents would give the edge to the Hawks as they beat Eastern Connecticut by 3 points while Oneonta lost to that team by a 101-78 score. I'm still going with the home team here and will take the Red Dragons to win it by a 75-72 score.

Hope we fare better than we did the last time the SUNYAC teams took the court.

I'm predicting a 5-0 day for the 'Yac (4-1 at the very worse). I will let Magicman fill in the scores!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 04:24:18 PM
5-0 is a pipe dream.  I'll be satisfied with a 3-2 split in our favor. Anything else is gravy...and I thought I already filled in the scores in the post that you're quoting??? You want me to come up with more scores ???

I do hope you're right though, about that 5-0 stuff..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 06:51:25 PM
Cortland was up by double digits over Ithaca for most of this game but the Bombers have made a push to cut a 16 point 2nd half deficit down to 8 with 7:45 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 07:31:14 PM
Cortland builds their lead back to double digits at 80-67. Ithaca makes a final push and gets back to within 7 at 80-73 with 2:16 to play. Bombers running out of time though and have to foul and Cortland makes their free throws. They hit 8 of 10 and extend the lead back to 15 points as they cruise to a final score of 91-73.

Blair Estarfaa comes off the bench and leads Cortland with 21 points as he went 5 of 7 from long distance. Shane Martinez and Lamard Herron both had 15 points. Martinez had 5 rebounds with 5 assists and Herron had 3 rebounds with 4 assists. Grequan Carter was next with 11 points and 7 rebounds. TJ Hefele and Justin Prendergast both subbed in and were the 5th and 6th Red Dragon players to hit in double figures as they scored 10 apiece.

Cortland had 13 triples tonight in 24 attempts for a 54.2%. Overall they were 30x62 for 48.4%. They were 18x30 from the line (60%). They had 38 rebounds to 29 for the Bombers and won the turnover battle as well with only 10. The Bombers gave the ball away 15 times.

Ithaca was led by Keefe Gitto with 17 points, followed by Joe Masino with 15, Carlin Champion with 14 and Max Masucci with 11. Masino and Gitto tied for rebounding honors with 8 each.

Cortland heads into the first weekend of conference play with an undefeated 4-0 record and will greet the Bengals from Buffalo State on Friday evening with the new SUNYAC format put in for this season. The Men's game will tip off before the Women's game and the starting time is now 5:30 PM. Fredonia State will follow the Bengals into Corey Gymnasium as that game will tip off at 2:00 PM.

Ithaca falls to 1-4 and it looks like the Bombers could be in for another long season. They will host Liberty League rival St Lawrence this Friday at 6:00 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 08:57:59 PM
Plattsburgh State's Vaughn Dweck buries a 3 pointer with 2 seconds on the clock and the Cardinals head into the locker room up 33-25 over St. Lawrence at the half.

The Saints scored the first basket to go in front 2-0 and it was tied at 5 a minute later. The Cardinals went in front on a Ezra Hodgson 3 pointer and the Cardinals never surrendered the lead for the remainder of the period. They went in front 16-9 but the Saints closed the gap and then Plattsburgh's X factor entered the game. Xavier Thomas scored 10 of the next 12 points for the Cardinals starting with a nice offensive rebound and putback to get into the scoring column. After Kyle Richardson made another nice inside move Thomas followed that with a 3 pointer to make the score 25 to 21. Two minutes later he did the same thing with a layup followed by a 3 pointer 35 seconds later. Thomas was the Cardinals leading scorer with 10 points at the break. Ezra Hodgson had 8 points and Reggie Williams had 4 points and 7 rebounds.

SLU was led by Brady Condlin with 12 points.   

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:01:32 PM
Oneonta and Hartwick locked in a battle as the Red Dragons are up 40-39 with 13:50  left in the game.

Clarkson leads Potsdam 65-58 with 1:25  left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:17:35 PM
Plattsburgh opens up a 24 point lead at 58-34 midway through the 2nd period. Saints have closed the gap a bit but still trail 61-43 with 6:17 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:25:16 PM
Clarkson defeats Potsdam State by a final score of 67-61. Rishawd Hendricks leads the Bears with 18 points. Greg Torchon and Joe Estramonte both toss in 10 points.

Clarkson's John Coleman grabs game scoring honors with 21 on 8x15 shooting. Conrad Zampier had 15 points.

The Bears fall to 1-2 and will host Oneonta this Friday at 5:30 PM. New Paltz will be in town on Saturday at 2:00 PM

Clarkson moves to 6-0 and is off to their best start in school history, I think. They wind up 1st semester action when they host Elmira College on Friday Dec. 5th at 8:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:26:37 PM
Hartwick looking like a winner over Oneonta as they lead the Red Dragons 65-55 with 1:49 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:29:16 PM
Can't get any score on the Alfred-Fredonia game. Their webcast and live stats links ran into problems and they said they were unavailable tonight. Probably won't know anything until it goes final. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:25:16 PM
Clarkson defeats Potsdam State by a final score of 67-61. Rishawd Hendricks leads the Bears with 18 points. Greg Torchon and Joe Estramonte both toss in 10 points.

Clarkson's John Coleman grabs game scoring honors with 21 on 8x15 shooting. Conrad Zampier had 15 points.

The Bears fall to 1-2 and will host Oneonta this Friday at 5:30 PM. New Paltz will be in town on Saturday at 2:00 PM

Clarkson moves to 6-0 and is off to their best start in school history, I think. They wind up 1st semester action when they host Elmira College on Friday Dec. 5th at 8:00 PM.

Clarkson may have problems with teams with a lot of size, but otherwise they are smart, well coached, have one of the best players in the region in John Coleman, and an underrated big in Felix Abongo, who is very athletic and powerful.  Massey says they could run the table, but we shall see.  If they get out to a 10-0 or 12-0 start, the votes will have to start coming.  Coleman plays under control, but explodes if need be, after being held to 5 in the first half, he had 7 in the first three minutes of the second.  He's also clutch from the line, and bigger than anyone quicker, and quicker than anyone bigger, at least at the East region D-III level.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 10:15:13 PM
Plattsburgh defeats St. Lawrence 71-49

The Cardinals took control of this game near the end of the 1st half and never let the Saints get back in the mix as they opened up a double digit lead early in the final period and just expanded it as they comfortably maintained control. Whenever the Saints would put together a couple of decent possessions to cut into the lead a bit, the Cardinals would just bury a couple of 3 pointers and the lead would be larger than before. Plattsburgh was 13x27 from behind the arc and 10x21 inside the line. They beat the Saints off the boards by a 41-25 margin but had 13 turnovers to only 6 for the Saints.

Ezra Hodgson led 3 Cardinals in double figures as the sharpshooting senior was 5x7 from the field and 2x3 rom long distance. Eddie Correa ended up with 11 points and 5 rebounds as he was 3x6 from behind the arc. Xavier Thomas only played 16 minutes but scored 10 points in 10 minutes of the 1st half. Shamoy McIntosh had 8 points, 5 assists and 4 rebounds. Big Reggie Williams had 7 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks.



Plattsburgh improves to 4-1 on the year and will finally play a home game as they make their season debut for the home fans on Friday evening when they take on New Paltz at 5:30 PM. Oneonta will visit Memorial Hall on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2014, 10:41:52 PM
Clarkson website says this is their best start since 1947-48 when they were a pre-NCAA team loaded with veterans from the Corps of Engineers.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2014, 11:05:27 PM
Alfred defeats Fredonia 80-69.

The YAC goes 2-3 in tonight's games. I went 4-1 with my picks. My only loss was picking Oneonta and I let my heart override my knowledge on that one. Hartwick beat Eastern Conn. and Eastern Conn. beat Oneonta handily. Shoulda picked the Hawks but I wanted the Red Dragons to win one for the YAC. No more Mr. Nice Guy with these YAC teams. :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2014, 09:39:39 AM
2 games on tap for the SUNYAC tonight 12-3:

#7 Nazareth vs #2 Geneseo State at St John Fisher.

Have to go with the Blue Knights to win this one over the Golden Flyers. The pointspread favors Geneseo by 4 points but I think they will win by a bit more. I see this one as a 74-67 win for the Knights.

#1 Rochester at #8 Brockport State

Hard to believe that last year's Wendy's Champion Brockport is this year's worst seed. The Golden Eagles are struggling as they search for the right lineup to put on the floor. They come into this game with a 1-3 record that could just as easily be 3-1 as their 3 losses are by a combined total of 10 points. Oddsmakers have made the Yellowjackets a slim 1 point favorite making this game a tossup. I think that Rochester is going to control the glass in this one and defenses will prevail. Rochester pulls away in the end for a 59-50 win.

OK I missed the boat here and didn't make those picks until hours after the games were over. I had went to Massey's games for Wednesday and looked at his matchups and there were no SUNYAC teams listed as having a game today. I totally forgot that the Wendy's College Classic was this week and never checked the D3hoops SUNYAC page. I was quite surprised when I discovered, while looking at the D3hoops scoreboard, that Brockport and Geneseo played on Wed. In reality I would have picked Geneseo to beat Nazareth but probably would have picked Brockport to beat Rochester.

Brockport was down by as many as 15 points in the 1st half but a bucket at the buzzer got them within 12 at 34-22 at the break. They slowly whittled the lead down in the 2nd period until they closed to within 4 points at 39-35 on a 3 pointer by Pat Modzelewski with 11:23 left to play. Port then wasted 4 straight possessions with 3 turnovers and a misfire. They did manage to get it back to a 4 point deficit with 6:16 remaining on a jumper by Clifton Lyerly. Once again the Eagles showed their youth as they committed 3 consecutive turnovers followed by a missed shot and then a foul. In the span of 2 minutes and 15 seconds the Yellowjackets had extended their lead to 13 points and this game was over. 

Modzelewski led all scorers with 15 points and Lylerly added 11. Brockport did get killed on the glass with only 31 rebounds to 53 for Rochester. The Yellowjackets had 28 2nd chance points and scored 17 points off of the 17 Port turnovers.

Rochester was led by Sam Borst-Smith with 14 points. Dylan Peretz controlled the glass as he had 20 boards and 10 points for a double-double.Jared Seltzer just missed a double-double with 10 points and 9 rebounds.

#1 Rochester will now meet the #4 seed Roberts Wesleyan on Friday evening at 6:00 PM at RIT in the 1st semifinal.

#8 Brockport will take on #5 Hobart in the loser's bracket at 8:00 PM at the University of Rochester.


#2 Geneseo was down at the half by a 27-25 score against the Golden Flyers. The Knights put together a strong 2nd half led by Gordon Lyons with 18 pts  and Andy Drescher with 15 to turn a 6 point deficit into an 11 point lead midway through the final period. The closest that Nazareth got after that was 5 points on 1 occasion. Lyons ended up with another double-double of 23 points and 15 rebounds to capture game honors in both of those categories. Lyons has played 4 games and has recorded a big double-double in every contest. For the year he's averaging 24.5 ppg with 14.8 rpg and 3.8 assists per game. Drescher had 19 points while Charlie Zaepfel and Kevin Crockett both scored 11 points. Geneseo outrebounded Nazareth by a 38-27 margin while the Golden Flyer only committed 11 turnovers to 18 for the Knights.

Nazareth was led by Maurice Mills with 22 points and 7 rebounds. Mitch Ford was the only other Nazareth player in double digits with 12 points.

#2 Geneseo will play #3 St John Fisher on Friday evening at 8:00 PM at RIT in the 2nd semifinal game

# 6 RIT will play #7 Nazareth in the Loser's brackett at 6:00 PM on Friday at Univ. of Rochester                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2014, 04:00:38 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 02, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2014, 09:25:16 PM
Clarkson defeats Potsdam State by a final score of 67-61. Rishawd Hendricks leads the Bears with 18 points. Greg Torchon and Joe Estramonte both toss in 10 points.

Clarkson's John Coleman grabs game scoring honors with 21 on 8x15 shooting. Conrad Zampier had 15 points.

The Bears fall to 1-2 and will host Oneonta this Friday at 5:30 PM. New Paltz will be in town on Saturday at 2:00 PM

Clarkson moves to 6-0 and is off to their best start in school history, I think. They wind up 1st semester action when they host Elmira College on Friday Dec. 5th at 8:00 PM.

Clarkson may have problems with teams with a lot of size, but otherwise they are smart, well coached, have one of the best players in the region in John Coleman, and an underrated big in Felix Abongo, who is very athletic and powerful.  Massey says they could run the table, but we shall see.  If they get out to a 10-0 or 12-0 start, the votes will have to start coming.  Coleman plays under control, but explodes if need be, after being held to 5 in the first half, he had 7 in the first three minutes of the second.  He's also clutch from the line, and bigger than anyone quicker, and quicker than anyone bigger, at least at the East region D-III level.

Bear, I agree with you that Coleman and Abongo are both excelllent players. Just not sure if they have enough to make a run at the Liberty League title. I hope they do as I'd like to see them win it but I'm skeptical. Clarkson played Plattsburgh back on November 8th in a scrimmage and the Cardinals won that game by a 62-46 margin. The game was close in the first half but Plattsburgh built a sizable lead early in the 2nd period and the game was never close after that.

Hopefully Clarkson's new coach will toughen up their non conference schedule in the coming years. The past few years their non-conference portion as been very weak. Massey has them rated right now with a SOS of 362 out of 416 D3 teams. Once they get into conference play that SOS will improve and he projects it to climb to around 311 but that's still not very good. Plattsburgh, for comparison's sake,  has an SOS right now of 76 but will rise slightly once we get into conference play and is projected to be around 130. Curle will play anybody, anywhere, at any time. He's done that when his teams were loaded and when he's been in a full rebuilding mode.

Clarkson used to play us every year when Adam Stockwell was coaching there.  When Mark Gilbride took over after Stockwell went to Oswego, Clarkson no longer scheduled us after Gilbride's first 2 years there. Why wouldn't you continue to play a team that has a solid program like Plattsburgh has, that is only 90 minutes away, with an established North Country rivalry, that will only help your SOS? I never understood that move. Clarkson used to play Cortland, Oswego, Plattsburgh, Rochester, and Potsdam. Now only Potsdam remains on their schedule. Within two years of Gilbride's arrival, all the other schools were no longer playing Clarkson, having been replaced by Keuka, Elmira, Canton, and Paul Smiths, to name a few.  No wonder Gilbride's coaching resume states:

"Gilbride posted a record of 75-51 (.595) in five seasons with the Clarkson University Golden Knights in Potsdam, New York. He earned more victories in his first five seasons than any other basketball coach in Clarkson history. His winning percentage is the highest of any Clarkson basketball coach since 1936."    Easy to do against cupcakes.

In those 5 years, despite the 75-51 record, Clarkson only made the Liberty League playoffs one time, played in a single game and lost. Their league record was only 39-37 during that time.

I'd like to see a resumption of the Clarkson-Plattsburgh series. It would help both schools. I'd really like to see a true North Country tournament with Plattsburgh, Potsdam, Clarkson, and St. Lawrence meeting each year in November on a rotating basis. That would give one of the four schools bragging rights for the year as the North Country Champion. 8-)       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 04, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
Unfortunately my Bears spoiled the Potsdam/Plattsburgh/Clarkson/SLU tournament, from 70-71 to 90-91, Plattsburgh was 2-37 and Clarkson was 1-37 vs. Potsdam, and SLU [15-29] won about 1/3 of their matchups.

Why start out the season with L's
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 04:57:28 AM
All 10 SUNYAC teams in action today as conference play begins

New Paltz State at  Plattsburgh State   5:30 PM
      
Buffalo State  at     Cortland State        5:30 PM

Fredonia State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM
   
Oneonta State  at  Potsdam State        5:30 PM

Geneseo  vs  St. John Fisher    at RIT      8:00 PM
Wendy's College Cassic SemiFinals

Brockport  vs  Hobart  at Univ. of Rochester  8:00 PM
Wendy's College Classic  Consolation Bracket       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
In advance of Conference play it's time to predict my order of finish for the SUNYAC

1.   Plattsburgh State   After earning the runnerup position for the past two years I think the Cardinals have the horses to win it all this year. Tons of returning firepower with 9 different guys that can lead the team in scoring on any given night. (They actually did that last year) An NCAA Sweet 16 team from a year ago, the Cardinals will be looking for their 3rd straight trip to the Big Dance and 7th in the past 10 years, more than any other team in the East Region.

2.   Geneseo State    The Knights will be right in the thick of the hunt because the presence of Gordon Lyons is enough of a difference maker. Mr. Double-Double (my new name for Mr. Lyons) is a D3hoops Preseason 2nd team All American. If his first 4 games are any indication he should be on the first team by year's end. The Knights also have a number of returnees from last year's NCAA team that will provide Lyons with the support he needs. Several close losses both by 2 points have me concerned, especially a loss to Morrisville, a team that Potsdam beat to open the season. This team should really be 4-0 right now instead of 2-2. 

3.  Oswego State   The Lakers have the talent to win it all with Brian Sortino leading the way. Erratic play in early non conference games has been puzzling though as they have lost to teams they were clearly better than. If they don't figure out those problems they will tumble down the ladder as there are teams with talent just below them.

4.  Cortland State  The Red Dragons weren't a team that I had in mind for this position when the season opened on November 15th. They have impressed me though and Coach Spanbauer usually gets the most out of his lineup. Cortland was in a rebuilding mode last year after losing so many players the year before but they still managed to go 14-12. Those players have more experience  now and I think they will win the close games that they let slip away last year.

5.   Buffalo State  The Bengals get this spot but will be hard pressed to keep it especially after they open the season on the road against Cortland and Oswego. They may end up in last place right off the bat and have to work their way back up the standings and it's entirely possible they could be 2-5 after 7 SUNYAC games. That kind of deficit could hurt the confidence needed to make a strong finish. However Oneonta and Brockport haven't made enough of an impression on me so far to put one of them in this slot. Rod Epps and Chris Thompson should provide the Bengals with a solid 1-2 punch but they both need to be on the same page, share the ball and get others involved with the offense.

6.  Oneonta State  They opened the season with the big win at Williams but came down to earth with 3 straight losses. They could have won a couple of those games but didn't come through in crunch time, much like they have done in the past few years. They need to finish the game strong and would seem to have the firepower to do so with Zac Mager back and the return of point guard Frankie Kelly. Could even challenge for the top spot in the conference but will need a consistency that's been lacking. Could even miss the playoffs as the final 3 playoff spots will have 4 fairly even teams battling for them.

7.  Brockport State  I thought the Golden Eagles would be near the top of the standings when the season started. They lost a lot of talent but had some good young players last year that figured to move right into a starring role. They have opened up with a 1-4 record and 3 of those losses were games they could have won. Coach Dunne's teams always get better as the year progresses and it won't surprise me if they make the playoffs and climb over several teams I've placed above them       

8.  New Paltz State  The Hawks along with Potsdam and Fredonia all finished with 3-15 records in conference play last year. I expect the same thing will occur this year and it's possible they may all go 2-16. So the pecking order at the bottom is a three way tie for 8th place once again. New Paltz will be hard pressed to equal its 6 wins of last year.

8.  Potsdam State  The Bears have went 5-20 in 3 of the past 5 years. They lost 2 games to the snowstorm that hit western NY so will only have 23 regular season games unless they find a couple than can be squeezed into their schedule. A very real chance they may end up with a 3-20 record this year. The need some hidden talent to manifest itself from some of the newcomers. I hope I'm wrong but Mr. Massey projects them with that 3-20 record.

8.  Fredonia State  Just as the 2 teams directly above them the Blue Devils will struggle to reach the 6 win total they had last season. With a 23 game schedule unless they make up the game with Medaille  they are projected to finish with a 1-22 record. They are currently ranked #373 by Massey out of 416 teams and that may be the lowest ranking a SUNYAC team has ever had.

So I have Plattsburgh and Geneseo getting the top 2 seeds for the YAC playoffs with my Cardinals hosting this year. That will help make up for the fact that Plattsburgh only has 10 home games out of their 25 regular season contests.

If my picks hold form then #3 Oswego will host #6 Oneonta  and #4 Cortland will host #5 Buffalo State.

I really think that 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th place is a crap shoot and you could roll the dice to come up with those spots. One of those teams will be left out to dry but anyone of them could be the 4th seed and anyone of them could miss the playoffs altogether.   

Time for the fun to begin in earnest. Good luck to all the teams and I hope we can get through the season without any injuries.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 07:15:44 AM
Quote from: thebear on December 04, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
Unfortunately my Bears spoiled the Potsdam/Plattsburgh/Clarkson/SLU tournament, from 70-71 to 90-91, Plattsburgh was 2-37 and Clarkson was 1-37 vs. Potsdam, and SLU [15-29] won about 1/3 of their matchups.

Why start out the season with L's

Ancient History. ;D  And they were my Bears back than as well. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 05:09:13 PM
All 10 SUNYAC teams in action today as conference play begins:

New Paltz State at  Plattsburgh State   5:30 PM
The Cardinals are coming off 5 straight games on the road to open the season. They will be raring to go in the friendly confines of Memorial Hall. The Hawks are coming off  their initial win of the year after dropping their first 4 games. The point spread favors the home team in this matchup of feathered friends and it's by a big 21 point margin. Opening conference games tend to be a bit closer so I'll go with the Cardinals to win this one by an 85-68 margin. I did say a bit closer.
      
Buffalo State  at     Cortland State        5:30 PM
This is a tough game to predict and is the featured game of the day in conference play. Bengals hurt by their lack of playing time due to the snowstorm of the year while the Red Dragons have gotten off to a good start right out of the gate. Cortland has won 4 of the past 5 meetings but in the last 8 years the teams have went 7-7 with most wins coming on their home courts. The oddsmakers favor the Red Dragons by 7 points tonightbut I think the Bengals keep it closer than that. This one could go to overtime but ultimately I think that Cortland will hold serve here and come away with a 76-73 win. 

Fredonia State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM
Lakers will have too much firepower for the Blue Devils. A big point spread on this game as well with the home team favored by 15. Laker win by a 70-58 margin.
   
Oneonta State  at  Potsdam State        5:30 PM
These Red Dragon look to get back on the winning track after dropping 3 in a row. Potsdam will probably be just what the doctor ordered. Bears are the home dogs here but only by 5 points. If Oneonta can beat Williams in Williamstown by 6 points I think they'll win this game by a larger margin Oneonta 76 Potsdam 66.


Geneseo  vs  St. John Fisher    at RIT      8:00 PM
Wendy's College Cassic SemiFinals
This should be an excellent game between one of the better big men in the E8 conference and the best big man in the SUNYAC conference Oddsmakers have made Geneseo a slight 4 point favorite on the neutral court location. Both teams have puzzling losses that indicate something is amiss. I think that Gordon Lyons will school the younger Keegan Ryan a bit tonight and the Knights walk away with a 75-70 victory and a chance to win the Wendy's College Classic on Saturday evening

Brockport  vs  Hobart  at Univ. of Rochester  8:00 PM
Wendy's College Classic  Consolation Bracket
Brockport needs to put a complete game together and come through in crunch time to get back on the winning track. Unfortunately tonight may not be the night they get it done. Hobart will present a tough challenge for the Golden Eagles as it should be another game that comes down to the wire. The Statesmen are favored by a slim 3 point margin ad I think that they will probably pull off a win here by a 67-63 final. I sure hope I'm wrong on this one though.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
2 close games being contested at the moment.

Geneseo leads St John Fisher 56-51 with 1:11 left to play.

Brockport has moved out in front of Hobart 49-40 with 15:21 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 09:34:18 PM
Final scores from this evening.

Plattsburgh State 81  New Paltz 69

Cortland State 78 Buffalo State 69

Oneonta State 79  Potsdam State 73

Oswego State 63  Fredonia State 62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
The Geneseo game has gone final with the Knights defeating St John Fisher by a 63-55 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Brockport has seen a 15 point 49-34 lead with 16:25 left to play dwindle down to a 54-50 lead with 10:47 to go. That's a pattern we need to get away from here. C'mon Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2014, 11:18:41 PM
Hobart came all the way back from a 15 point deficit and took the lead away from Brockport as they went ahead 61-60 with exactly 6 minutes left in the game. The Statesmen would pull ahead by 3 points on several occasions, the last time at 71-68 with 54 seconds remaining. The Golden Eagles did not fold however as Clifton Lyerly hit a layup and was fouled with 28 ticks on the clock. The sophomore calmly dropped the tying free throw through the hoop and when Hobart missed a jumper with 6 seconds left, Lyerly corralled the rebound to send the game into OT.

In the extra period it was Hobart who score first on a Jake Rayburn layup but the Golden Eagles would regain the lead as Patrick Modzelewski  buried a three pointer. Lyerly then scored to put Port up by 3 but the Statesmen came back to tie the score at 76 apiece. Levi Pace put Brockport back up 78-76 with 1:31 to go and yet again Hobart got even when Trey Blanding was fouled and made both free throws with 15 seconds on the clock. This time Brockport had the ball fir the final shot and after Coach Dunne took a time out with 11 seconds to go, Lyerly once again hit a big basket with 3 ticks left to seal the game for the Eagles, 80-78.

Modzelewski had a double-double of 30 points and 11 boards to gain game honors in both those categories. Lyerly added 22 points 6  rebounds and 6 assists. 

Brockport will meet Nazareth tomorrow at 3:00 Pm for the 5th place spot in the tournament. Hobart will meet RIT to see who comes in 7th and 8th.

Glad to see I was wrong on this game. I had Hobart winning it 67-63 in a close one. I went 5-1 with my picks tonight and this is the one I wanted to be wrong about. Good job  Brockport.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2014, 01:24:35 AM
Call me superstitious (or crazy) but I swear that the fix is in when my BENGALS go to Cortland. First let me congratulate the Red Dragons (and franelia) on a good win. Having said that "Congrats"...let me vent.

You may remember last year the Bengals were out shot at the free throw line 54- 12. Thats 54 Free throw attempts for Cortland  to 12 for BUFF STATE. Tonight it was 30 Cortland free throw attempts to 9 BUFF State Free attempts.  In 2 games at Cortland thats 84-21. Having seen both games in person I am even more shocked that this disparity is allowed to continue. Maybe its just bad timimg on the BENGALS part (the stars align at the exact same point 2 years in a row, or the moon is in its 23 rd orbit ::)), but this is crazy. I dont want to say that my BENGALS get screwed by the refs at Cortland but.....84/21?

Oh well (glad I got that out of my system).... Its on to Oswego. Gotta get a good nights rest if I want to make it to that 1. Im nervous, 1 of the refs who did the game tonight at Cortland is supposed to be working the game  tomorrow at Oswego too!!:o

Go BENGALS!!!

84 to 21???..... :'( :-\ :-X :-[ :P ::) ??? :o :( >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2014, 05:25:46 AM
All 10 teams in action on Saturday. Not a lot of time so I'll go for some quick picks.


Oneonta State    at   Plattsburgh State        2:00 PM
Plattsburgh has owned the Red Dragons for the past few year   s. I hope to see that trend continue today. Oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 13 point favorite. I'll go with my Cardinals to take this one by an 83-73 final score.
   
New Paltz State    at      Potsdam State        2:00 PM
This game is a pick em according to the point spread. I'd like to pick my alma mater but the Bears haven't given me much reason to do so in the past few years. This is one of the few games that they might get a W though so I'll take a chance on them. Potsdam 70 New Paltz 67.
   
Buffalo State    at   Oswego State        2:00 PM
Bengals wounded after their excursion in Cortland yesterday. Would love to make the trip home with at least a split. If they go 0-2 in the conference right away they may not recover. Oswego not playing like I thought they would. Oswego hasn't scored in the  70's all year  Lakers are a slight 3 point home favorite here, but I'm taking the underdog Bengals to have a jovial ride home to the Queen City. Buff St 74 Oswego 69   

Fredonia State  at   Cortland State        2:00 PM
Fredonia came close yesterday in Oswego but don't think they will do that here today. Close will be if they can keep it to a single digit loss. The point spread says they can't as the Red Dragons are favored by 17 points. Cortland stays unbeaten as they win this one 80-68. 

Brockport State   vs   Nazareth  at Geneseo State                         3:00 PM
5th place game at Wendy's College Classic
Brockport back on the winning track and hoping to start a streak. I think this will be another one that goes down to the wire. This is rated as a pick em game and I'll try my luck with the Golden Eagles to scratch out a 68-65 win.

Geneseo State   vs    Roberts Wesleyan at RIT            8:00 PM
Championship Game of Wendy's College Classic
This will be the 16th time these two teams have met and Geneseo leads the series by an 8-7 margin. I don't know anything about this school so I'm just going with a random guess and taking the YAC team to pull out a win. Point spread has Geneseo favored by a slim 3 point margin, so I'll pick the Knights to win by a 75-72 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2014, 06:36:11 AM
Plattsburgh State 81  New Paltz State 69

The Cardinals presented Coach Tom Curle  with his 200th win Friday night as Plattsburgh State's Head Coach and they didn't waste any time in letting the home crowd get comfortable with that milestone. Happy to be home after opening the season with 3 weeks of 5 straight games on the road, the Cardinals and their fans were hoping to set the tone right from the opening bell. Ezra Hodgson didn't disappoint as he opened the scoring with a 3 pointer to get the Cardinals on the board. Reggie Williams followed with 2 straight layups and Hodgson hit another jumper. Just like that, the home team raced to a 9-0 lead. New Paltz finally got on the board 3:40 into the game, only to watch the Cards rattle off another 11 unanswered point to jump in front 20-2 with 8 minutes gone in the game. Curle could have lit his victory cigar at that point because the Hawks never got closer than 12 points the rest of the way. The lead ballooned to as much as 22 points as Curle substituted freely throughout the game.

Ezra Hodgson led the Cardinals in the scoring column with 18 points and 8 rebounds. Jordan Moody came off the bench and pumped in 15 points in only 15 minutes of floor time. The X-Man, Xavier Thomas, also came off the bench and had double figures with 13 points in only 17 minutes of playing time. His thunderous two handed jam off an alley-oop pass from Mike Mitchell just before halftime brought the home crowd to their feet and was the highlight of the game. Reggie Williams just missed another double-double as the big guy was the game's leading rebounder with 10 boards. He added 9 points, 3 blocks, 3 assists and a pair of steals to show off his versatility. Point guard Mike Mitchell was nearly flawless in running the show for the Cardinals with 7 assists, a pair of 3 pointers and only 1 turnover in 28 minutes on the floor. The Cards shot 42% from the field and 40 % from long distance as they made 10 of 25 from long range with 6 different players cashing in from beyond the arc. They won the battle of the boards 45-39 and had 13 turnovers to 17 for the Hawks.

New Paltz was led by Eric Regenbogen with 13 points and 6 rebounds. R.J. Rosa also had 13 points. He added 3 boards, 3 steals, 2 assists and a block. Taylor Sowah had 11 points and 8 rebounds. The Hawks shot 35% from the field and 41% from behind the arc.

Plattsburgh improved to 5-1 and will host Oneonta on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM

New Paltz falls to 1-5 and will travel over to Potsdam to face the Bears at the same time on Saturday.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2014, 11:01:57 AM
Went 5-1 with my 6 predictions yesterday:

Plattsburgh State 81  New Paltz 69   I had the Cardinals winning this one 85-68 so I  wasn't too far off with my prediction. Cards actually had  a 22 point lead with about 4 minutes left in the game and the Hawks hit a few 3's in garbage time to close the final gap. Only 3 points off with my total of 153. 

Cortland State 78 Buffalo State 69   Huge discrepancy at the foul line was the difference in this game as the Red Dragons outscored the Bengals 20-5 from the stripe. This game was a back and forth affair for the first 30 minutes with lead changes aplenty (11) along with 7 ties. Bengals still close as it was a 2 possession game with 2:22 to go. Cortland hit 8 of 10 from the line down the stretch. I had this game as a 76-73 Cortland win so I was pretty close. My total of 149 was only 2 points off. 

Oneonta State 79  Potsdam State 73    I had Oneonta winning this one 76-66. With 47 seconds left it was 77-68. The Bears closed the gap in the final few seconds but i was still fairly close.

Oswego State 63  Fredonia State 62  The Lakers led this by as much as 10 points in the first half but the Blue Devils hung tough and actually has a 3 point lead with 1:42 left to play. The Lakers got back to back buckets though to pull out the win. I had this one a 70-58 win by Oswego . My total of 128 wasn't far off but it was closer than i thought it would be. Oswego still not firing on all cyclinders offensively. 


Geneseo State 63  St John Fisher 55   I had the Knights winning this one in a close 75-70 contest. It was a close game throughout but in crunch time Gordon Lyons and Andy Drescher came up big for Geneseo. With the score 49-48 in favor of Geneseo with 5 minutes remaining, Drescher nailed a 3 pointer and Lyons came through with back to back layups and the lead was 56-50 with 2:19 left. Then Drescher and Lyons combined to hit 7 of 8 free throws to close out the Cardinals. Lyons won his battle with Fisher's big man Keegan Ryan but not by much as Ryan put up a good stat line for himself. Ryan had 16 points, 10 rebounds and a steal. Lyons had 18 points, 14 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist and a steal.     

Brockport  State 80  Hobart 78     This was the only game I missed and if I'm going to be wrong this is the one I wanted to be wrong about. I had Hobart winning this one by a 67-63 final. At the end of regulation it was tied at 71 and that was close to the total I projected.

Hope I can do as well with my selections for Saturday's games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 06, 2014, 11:17:36 AM
My congrats to Coach Curle on his 200th win...too!!!
Seems I know him through you, Magicman. :).  Does he have any more children?  Based on his daughter's play at Bowdoin,  Amherst maybe interested.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2014, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 06, 2014, 11:17:36 AM
My congrats to Coach Curle on his 200th win...too!!!
Seems I know him through you, Magicman. :).  Does he have any more children?  Based on his daughter's play at Bowdoin,  Amherst maybe interested.

Indeed you do know him through me amh63. And for another reason that only you, I and two other persons know about. Coach Curle's win was his 200th at Plattsburgh. He is closing in on his 300th win in NCAA Diivision III. Overall including his record at Alfred State when it was just a 2 year school he has amassed 463 wins. Hopefully he's got a few hundred or so left in him. 8-) I'll pass on your congratulations to him when I see him on Monday.

His daughter that is at Bowdoin is his youngest. Unfortunately there are no more young Curle men or women in the pipeline. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2014, 11:45:40 PM
Plattsburgh State loses to Oneonta State in overtime 94-92.

Took in a barnburner today at Memorial Hall and the fans in attendance certainly got their money's worth. I would have liked a different outcome but it was a good game and I learned a long, long, long (remember I'm old) time ago that you can't win them all. This game was a back and forth affair the entire way. The largest lead either team enjoyed was a 7 point Oneonta lead early in the 1st half. The Cardinals were ahead 5-4 when the Red Dragons' Seth Thomsen hit a 3 pointer and Frankie Kelly had back to back scores on a drive to the basket followed by a jumper. After the Cards' Ezra Hodgson made a layup, Oneonta's Zach Mager nailed another 3 pointer and the visitors had their largest lead of the afternoon at 14-7 with 16:31 on the clock. Not to be outdone the Cardinals came right back with another Hodgson bucket, a free throw from Shamoy McIntosh, a jumper by Reggie Williams, a steal and a jam by McIntosh, another inside basket by Williams, which was then capped off by a long range trifecta from Mike Mitchell. In the span of 3 minutes and 12 seconds the Cardinals had reeled off a 12-0 run and reclaimed the lead with their biggest margin of the half at 19-14, with 13:19 left in the period. From that point on through the entire remaining 38:19 of regulation and overtime neither team had more than a 2 possession lead.

I must admit when the Cardinals ran off those 12 unanswered points, I was thinking that the home team was well on their way and I was going to witness a similar scenario to that which took place on Friday evening. The run would continue...the gap would get larger.. and I could relax and watch my Cardinals coast to the finish line. After all, Plattsburgh had won 14 of the previous 15 games against Oneonta and this one wasn't about to be any different. Boy was I wronn... wroonnn.... ( like Fonzie I'm having trouble saying that word)....wrong. There I said it. :o

Back came the Red Dragons and they outscored Plattsburgh 15 to 5 over the next 4 minutes to take a 29-24 advantage. Jack Dignan came off the Oneonta bench to nail 3 consecutive three point bombs to lead that surge and they were still up by 5 at 32-27 with 6:06 remaining. Xavier Thomas made a pair a free throws for Plattsburgh and on the Cardinals' next possession, point guard Mike Mitchell drained another 3 pointer with an Oneonta defender draped all over him as the shot clock hit zero. That tied it up at 32, but a Kelly drive and Mager 3 pointer boosted Oneonta back into a 2 possession lead. McIntosh hit a pair of free throws, Mager countered with the same. McIntosh scored again to cut the lead to 39-37 but Oneonta's Mikey McElroy hit a basket with 1.7 seconds on the clock and the visitors went into the break with a 4 point lead.

All that did was set the stage for another 20 minutes of steady back and forth action. The score was tied in this game 16 times and there were 22 lead changes. The Red Dragons biggest lead in the 2nd half was a 5 point margin at the 14:03 mark of 52-47, when Mager hit a 3 pointer and he followed that with a fast break layup. The Cardinals had a 5 point advantage that matched their largest lead of the day when the X-man Thomas made an old fashioned 3 point play to give Plattsburgh a 67-62 edge with 7:32 to go.

Down the stretch they came trading baskets and leads right to the end. Tied at 73 with 3:15 on the clock, Eddie Correa buried a three to put the Cards on top. A free throw from McElroy and another 3 pointer from Mager changed the lead again. Jordan Moody hit a triple for the Cards, Kareem Williams scored inside for the Dragons. Moody hit a pair of free throws, Lawrence Coleman did the same for Oneonta and once more it was tied at 81. Moody then made 1 of 2 from the line with 42 seconds to go but Jack Dignan hit his 4th 3 pointer with 20 seconds left and the Red Dragons were up 84-82. Cardinals' Coach Curle called a time out with 13 seconds left, to set up a play that would go inside to Reggie Williams and the big guy didn't disappoint, as he scored easily when he got the ball down low.  He actually scored too quickly because there was time left  for Oneonta to get off  one last shot. Oneonta called a time out to set something up but the Cardinals' X-man Thomas stole the ball, gave it a heave at the buzzer, and that sent the teams into the extra session.

So now is when things turn out alright. All that is good and just in the world will come to pass. The Cardinals will win and I can leave Memorial Hall one happy fellow. The Red Dragon, however, had other ideas. The bonus frame opened up just as the previous one ended. The Cards got the ball in to the big guy and Mr. Williams did what he done all night long, scored easily to give the Cards the early lead 15 seconds into the OT. 23 seconds later Shamoy McIntosh stole the ball and fed the X-man for a fastbreak basket. Oneonta then went to the foul line and a sure sign that things were going our way showed up when they missed both free throws. We now had the ball, a 4 point lead and the chance to do further damage. I wish we had decided to go back to our bread and butter play, work some time off the clock, get the ball into the big guy again, (cause it's only worked, like forever tonight) and maybe build the advantage to 6 or 7 points with a hoop and harm. We didn't do that though, we missed a shot, Oneonta got the rebound and Jack Dignan swished his fifth 3 pointer of the game. Seconds later Dignan stole the ball and the turnover led to a layup inside for Mager. The All Conference performer was fouled on the play, so they ended up with the hoop and harm, and he made the free throw to put Oneonta up 90-88. This time the Cardinals did go back inside to their big man and once again Williams was money, as he tied the game at 90 with 2:12 remaining. Oneonta came down and went inside to Lawrence Coleman and he scored to put the Red Dragons back in front. Each team then had 2 more cracks to do some damage but both times they came up empty. Plattsburgh then went back to Reggie Williams and again he tied the game up with an effortless move to the basket. There were 19 seconds remaining and Plattsburgh called a time out. Oneonta inbounded the ball to Frankie Kelly and the point guard dribbled the clock down, made his move to the basket and executed a layup about as good as you can when you're a smaller player moving among the trees. With 2.7 seconds on the clock this game was history. The Cardinals tried a long entry pass that was picked off by Zach Mager and the Red Dragons had gone 2-0 in their trip to the North Country. I'm not happy we lost but you have to credit the Oneonta team for their excellent play. Hopefully my Cardinals will return the favor on February 6th when we take a little trip to visit Dewar Arena.

Plattsburgh was led by Reggie Williams with a new career high of 24 points on 12x17 shooting tonight. Reggie had just established a new career high on November 24th at Skidmore. How a guy of his size, with all the touches he had tonight never made it to the free throw line is simply amazing. Reggie did complete another double-double as he added 10 rebounds (seemed like there were more than that) 3 blocks, 2 assists and a steal. Xavier Thomas came off the bench to score 14 points (5x8 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x3 ft) with 5 rebounds. (seemed like he had more as well). The X-man skied high tonight with 5 blocks, 2 steals and 1 assist, in 22 minutes of floor time. Shamoy McIntosh had 12 points (3x11 fg, 0x3 3's, 6x8 ft) and 3 rebounds. He added 3 steals and 3 assists. Jordan Moody also came off the bench with 11 points (2x9 fg,1x5 3's, 6x10 ft), 2 rebounds and 2 assists. Kyle Richardson added 10 points (4x6 fg, 2x3 3's,) with 5 boards, 2 steals, a block, and 1 assist  in only 18 minutes on the court.

The Cardinals shot 33x66 from the field (50%), 9x25 from the arc (36%), and 17x23 from the line (73.9%). They lost the rebounding battle by a slight 39-37 count and had 17 TO's to only 13 for Oneonta.

They fall to 5-2 overall, 1-1 SUNYAC  and will be off until December 31st when they travel to Keene NH to take on the Keene Owls on New Years Eve at 5 PM.

Oneonta was led by Zach Mager who was the game's leading scorer with 31 points (10x15 fg, 4x7 3's, 7x7 ft). He added 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist in 40 minutes on the court. Frankie Kelly had a double-double tonight as he scored 18 points(7x15 fg, 4x4 ft) and dished out 10 dimes. He added 4 rebounds and a steal in 37 minutes of playing time. Jack Dignan hit 5 baskets but they were all bombs from downtown. He finished with 15 points (5x11 fg, 5x10 3's). He added 3 boards, 2 assists and 2 steals. Mike McElroy also had double figures with 12 points (3x9 fg,0x3 3's, 6x10 ft), 5assists, 3 rebounds, and a steal. Kareem Williams led the Red Dragons with 11 rebounds and had 4 points.

Oneonta shot 32x70 from the field (45.7%), 11x26 from distance (42,3%) and 19x27 from the line (70.4%)

They improve to 4-3 overall, 2-0 SUNYAC and travel to Florida in 2 weeks to take on the Roanoke College Maroons from the Old Dominion Athletic Conference on Dec. 19th at 4:00 PM in Daytona Beach. They will face another team from the ODAC the next day when they match up with the Bridgewater College Eagles of Virginia at 2:00 PM also in Daytona Beach.

Good luck to the Red Dragons on their trip south. I hope you can come back with a couple of wins. If you play the way you did against Williams and Plattsburgh I'm sure you can. If you play the way you did against Hartwick you're in trouble.

Nice talking with Zach Mager and Frankie Kelly after the game tonight. You both were lights out today. If I knew you were going to shoot the ball as well as you did I'd probably have picked you guys. We'll get you back in February though.  Revenge is a great motivator. ;D                                                               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2014, 03:39:25 PM
Momma said that there would be days (weekends) like this! :'(. After a tough 1 vs Cortland, I had much hope that my BENGALS could pull 1 off at Oswego. I was wrong!  Not much to say when you spot a team a 24 pt lead (29-5).

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2014, 08:18:51 PM
Just discovered that Medaille was playing Geneseo tonight. Must be a make up game from the big snowstorm. I would have picked Geneseo to win this game 76-70. Right now the score I saw has Medaille winning 63-60  with 9:09 left to play. I'll still go with my 76-70 Geneseo win though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2014, 09:46:16 PM
Final score  Geneseo 80 Medaille 77

Geneseo comes back from an 13 point first half deficit of 31-18 with 8:11 left, to close the gap to a single point at the break. The Knights were still down by 11 points at 41-30 with 2:31 remaining but a 10-0 run to end the half punctuated by an Andy Drescher 3 pointer at the buzzer made it 41-40.

The 2nd half looked like a repeat of the 1st period as the Knights once again fell behind by a large margin. After Geneseo took a brief 45-41 lead as the half started on a layup by Gordon Lyons and another 3 pointer by Drescher, Medaille rattled off 11 unanswered points to go back in front 52-45. The Mavericks used a pair of long range bombs by Miles Newcomb and  Putter Brown, sandwiched around an old fashioned 3 point play by Ryan Grandits to turn it around. Two minutes later they got another pair of back to back trifectas from 2 different players as Grandits hit a long range bomb and after a Geneseo turnover, Louie Oliveri nailed another one. The Knights were now trailing 60-49 with 14:17 remaining. However, Geneseo didn't fold and behind 9 points from Lyons they went on a 15-3 tear to regain the lead at 64-63 with 7:46 to go. Two more lead changes and two ties would take place until the Knights got a hoop and harm from Andy Drescher to go in front 75-72 with just under 3 minutes to play. Geneseo would not trail again. Medaille missed on their next possession but so did Geneseo. The Mavericks came down with 2 minutes to go missed a layup, got the rebound, but turned it over. Geneseo then went back inside to Lyons and he scored to give the Knights a 77-72 lead with just over a minute left in the game. Chris Willingham quickly hit a 3 pointer for the Mavericks and they took a timeout with 54 seconds left. Needing a stop the Mavericks played great defense for 33 seconds, but as the shot clock wound down, the Knights' Connor Rogers hit a layup that would prove to be the winning points. Medaille got a quick basket with 6 seconds to go to make it 79-77, took a time out and fouled Drescher on the inbounds pass. Drescher made 1 of 2 giving the Mavericks one last chance to hit a game tying 3 pointer. They got the shot off but it didn't go down and the Knights escaped with a win.

Gordon Lyons had another big game for Geneseo with a double-double of 34 points and 12 rebounds. Gordon had 17 points and 8 boards in the 1st half and 17 points and 4 boards in the 2nd half. Andy Drescher had 21 points and 5 rebounds while Kevin Crockett also had double figures with 10 points. Nick Fessenden only had 2 points but grabbed 10 rebounds and Charlie Zaepfel dished out 7 assists.

The Knights completed their 4th game in 6 days as they just came off 3 games in the Wendy's tournament where they lost in the Championship Game to Roberts Wesleyan. They improve to 4-3 and the 2 losses to D3 teams were both by 2 points. They are now off until Tuesday, January 6th when they play their initial conference game at Fredonia State at 5:30.

Medaille was led by Chris Williamham with 24 points who managed to knock down 7 3 pointers on the night. He was 7x11 from long range. RYan Grandit was the only other Medaille player in double digits with 10 points.

The Mavericks fall to 2-3 overall and 2 of those losses came at the hands of SUNYAC schools. (Buff St. and Geneseo). They are back in action on Saturday, 12-13 when they host Mount Aloysius at 3:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 09, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
Skidmore at Potsdam ppd due to the weather.  3rd game this season the Bears have had impacted by Mother Nature.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2014, 01:19:55 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 08, 2014, 08:18:51 PM
Just discovered that Medaille was playing Geneseo tonight. Must be a make up game from the big snowstorm. I would have picked Geneseo to win this game 76-70. Right now the score I saw has Medaille winning 63-60  with 9:09 left to play. I'll still go with my 76-70 Geneseo win though.

Gutsy call! And the correct 1 too!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2014, 01:34:11 AM
You're up quite late tonight Champ. I'm getting ready to plow my driveway as were getting hit with our first major snowstorm of the year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2014, 01:36:49 AM
Hopefully it will be well short of the 6+ feet you guys got a few weeks ago. 10-14 inches is the prediction here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 11, 2014, 12:42:48 PM
The Hilbert Tournament has been rescheduled for January 3 & 4 in Hamburg.

Bears will play the Hawks the first night, and the winner of John Carroll & then either John Carroll or Nazareth.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2014, 01:40:08 PM
Saw where Fredonia played Penn State-Behrend last night. I was too busy plowing and shoveling to pay attention to basketball. I would have picked Fredonia to lose this game by a score of 70-60 had I made my usual predictions, since the Lions were 5-0 heading into this game. I will be picking against the Blue Devils in just about every game they play the rest of the year. Turns out I would have been giving Fredonia a bit too much credit as they lost this game by a 71-48 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2014, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 11, 2014, 12:42:48 PM
The Hilbert Tournament has been rescheduled for January 3 & 4 in Hamburg.

Bears will play the Hawks the first night, and the winner of John Carroll & then either John Carroll or Nazareth.

I see the Potsdam website says that the game with Skidmore will also be rescheduled in the near future. So it looks like the Bears will end up with their full complement of regular season games. I'm just not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2014, 03:00:55 PM
SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week of December 1st thru the 7th was Brockport State junior Partrick Modzelewski. The guard/forward played in his first 3 games of the season for the Golden Eagles, in his first year wearing a Brockport uniform. It was an auspicious beginning for him as he set a Wendy's College Classic record for 3 pointers made in a single game..11 against Nazareth...and also a record for total 3 pointers made in single tournament with 20 in 3 games.

He opened up with a 15 point effort against Rochester in a 59-50 loss in the first round of the Wendy's tourney. Patrick went 6x11 from the field with a 3x6 effort from 3 point land, logging 25 minutes off the bench. He was just getting warmed up.

The next game against Hobart, Patrick tossed in 30 points, this time as a starter, as he was 9x16 from the field with 6 three pointers made in 9 attempts. He was also 6x9 from the line as the Golden Eagles caught Hobart at the end of regulation and beat the Statesmen 80-78 in overtime.

Patrick saved his best for last though, as he nailed 11 long range bombs in 15 attempts and was 3x3  from the line as he scored 36 points in an 82-62 pounding of Nazareth. That must have made Coach Dunne smile as the Golden Eagles handled the Golden Flyers, his Alma Mater. Not only was the 11 three pointers a Wendy's Tourney record it is also a single game record for Brockport State.   

Quite a beginning for Modzelewski at Brockport. With his first week in an green and gold uniform in the books, he was also chosen as the ECAC Upstate Player of the Week. His insertion into the Brockport starting lineup may be just what this team needed to get back on track. They opened the season at 1-4 and now stand 3-4 heading into conference play.

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 11, 2014, 04:27:44 PM
Modzelewski is a 6-6 215 xfer from D-II Queens College in the City.

Player with that size who can stroke the long ball will be an impact player.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 11, 2014, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 11, 2014, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 11, 2014, 12:42:48 PM
The Hilbert Tournament has been rescheduled for January 3 & 4 in Hamburg.

Bears will play the Hawks the first night, and the winner of John Carroll & then either John Carroll or Nazareth.

I see the Potsdam website says that the game with Skidmore will also be rescheduled in the near future. So it looks like the Bears will end up with their full complement of regular season games. I'm just not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. ???

John Carroll is ranked 26 by Massey, Hilbert is undefeated and expected to remain so until the New Year, Massey Rank 136, and Naz is 2-3 after the Wendy's with their losses coming at the hands of Rochester, Geneseo, and Brockport.  You do the math.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2014, 04:58:34 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 11, 2014, 04:34:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 11, 2014, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 11, 2014, 12:42:48 PM
The Hilbert Tournament has been rescheduled for January 3 & 4 in Hamburg.

Bears will play the Hawks the first night, and the winner of John Carroll & then either John Carroll or Nazareth.

I see the Potsdam website says that the game with Skidmore will also be rescheduled in the near future. So it looks like the Bears will end up with their full complement of regular season games. I'm just not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. ???

John Carroll is ranked 26 by Massey, Hilbert is undefeated and expected to remain so until the New Year, Massey Rank 136, and Naz is 2-3 after the Wendy's with their losses coming at the hands of Rochester, Geneseo, and Brockport.  You do the math.

That was my point! ;D Normally when you have 3 postponed games rescheduled...it's a good thing. In Potsdam's case, to add what could be 3 more losses to the season total is most likely a baaaad thing. ::) Although I sure hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2014, 07:03:29 AM
Two games involving SUNYAC teams today.

Potsdam State hosts neighboring rival St. Lawrence at 7:00 PM

Saints with a 4-3 record, are 3-0 against the Empire 8 conference, but already 0-3 against the YAC. They would be in 1st place in the E8 and would be in last place in our conference. Go figure. Saints still playing without last year's LL Rookie of the Year, Kyle Edwards.
The Bears are struggling once again, as they presently sport a 1-4 record. After opening the season with a win they have now dropped their last 4 games.  The good news is... they have been in every one of those games, losing the four contests by a total of 18 points. At some point though, they have to learn how to win those games. Bears have also been hurt by 3 postponements due to bad weather. The oddsmakers have made SLU a 5 point favorite in this game. 

I think St. Lawrence will have a Deja Vu moment today, as they came into the Potsdam game last year with an 0-3 record against the same 3 SUNYAC teams that have beaten them this year. They beat Potsdam 69-67 last year in Canton. Today the game is in Potsdam but I think the Saints, like last year will get their first win against the YAC to end up with a 1-3 SUNYAC record and escape our basement. It should be another close game but the Saints will prevail by a 72-67 score or something like that. Again I'd like to be wrong about this one. Go Bears!!


Oswego visits Cazenovia with gametime at 8:00 PM

It's time for Oswego's "guaranteed win" game against the Cazenovia Wildcats. The Lakers have played Cazenovia 5 times in the past 6 years and usually win this game by an average of 25 points. Last year they won 79-49. The point spread only favors the Lakers by 9 points this year. Must be that win the Wildcats had over Morrisville State last week (who beat Geneseo State, 74-72, back on 11-25) weighs heavily on the minds of the oddsmakers.

The real question here is will we see the Oswego team that pounded Buffalo State last week 98-71 or will we see the Oswego team that suffered home losses to Elmira and Clarkson. I'm guessing we'll see the former and that the oddsmakers should have made this a bigger spread. Lakers win 87-68.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2014, 12:45:04 AM
Potsdam State falls to St.Lawrence 65-60.

I had the Saints winning this game 72-67. I was slightly off on the totals but hit the margin of victory right on the button.

Once again Potsdam hangs tough but just can't quite pull out a win. The Bears were up 27-25 at the break in a back and forth first period.
The 2nd half featured 7 lead changes and 6 ties until the Saints, down 46-43 with 7:06 remaining in the game, went on a 13-0 run, ending with a 3 point play by Willie Zachary, to go in front 56-46 with 4:27 left to play. That was the gamebreaker as the Bears couldn't recover. They got as close as 3 points several times but SLU hit their free throws, led by Zachary, who was 4x4 in the final 20 seconds.

Rishawd Hendricks led the Bears with 20 points and Zac Adams tossed in 17. Joe Estramonte, the smallest guy on the floor at 5'9", was the game's top rebounder with 10 boards and he just missed a double-double with 9 points. He also had a game high 6 assists.

The Bears lost this game at the free throw line as they were only 5x12 from the stripe. The Saints made 25 trips to the line and made 18 for a 13 point differential. Rebounds were pretty even, 37 for SLU to 36 for Potsdam and the Bears had 13 TO's to 16 for the Saints.

Kieran Miller and Kyle Kobis both had 15 points to lead St Lawrence. Kobis led the team with 8 rebounds. Zachary Miller added 13 points and 7 rebounds.

Potsdam falls to 1-5 and will return to action on January 3rd at 5:00 PM, when they take on the Hilbert Hawks in the rescheduled Hilbert Tip Off Tournament that was cancelled back in mid-November when that massive snowstorm hit western NY. 

St. Lawrence improves to 5-3 and is off until Jan.2nd when they travel to RPI to open up Liberty League play at 8:00 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2014, 03:38:00 AM
Oswego State 89 Cazenovia 63

No surprises here as the Lakers handled the Wildcats with relative ease. I picked this game to be an 87-68 Laker victory despite the oddsmakers stating that Oswego was only a 9 point favorite. My total of 155 points was only 3 points off the actual 152 point total and the Lakers only scored 2 more points than I thought they would.

Lakers outscored Cazenovia by a 15 point margin 45-30 in the 1st half. The Wildcats actually had the lead at 19-16 with under 10 minutes left in the first half. A 13-0 run by Oswego gave them a 29-19 lead with 5:48 remaining and they stretched that to the 15 point advantage as the period ended.

The 2nd half was more of the same as the lead fluctuated between 20 and 27 points. The Lakers were never threatened and coasted to the win in this annual romp. Brian Sortino was the high scorer with 23 points followed by Walter Sampson with 20 points and 5 assists.

Cazenovia was led by Marquane Silvers with a double-double of 15 points and 12 rebounds.

Oswego State ups their record to 5-2 and will travel to Daytona Beach to take on the Haverford Fords at 4:00 PM on December 28th. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2014, 05:45:51 AM
Two SUNYAC teams in action on Saturday.


Cortland State  at  SUNYIT        2:00 PM

Revenge should be first and foremost on the minds of the Red Dragons as they travel to Utica to take on the  SUNYIT Wildcats. Last year Cortland blew a late 6 point lead and let the Wildcats catch them and send the game into overtime. Given a fresh chance, the Wildcats outscored the Red Dragons 19-11 in the extra session and walked out of Corey Gym with an 87-79 win. It was also the last Cortland game before the Christmas break, just as this one is today. When the Red Dragons returned to action last year after the loss to SUNYIT, they promptly proceeded to lose another close game, this time in Utica, to the Pioneers of Utica College by a score of 71-67. Cortland has already gained a measure of redemption against the Pioneers as they beat Utica College by a 73-54 margin to open the season this year. Today they need to take care of Revenge Part II. Both of those losses last year to the Utica teams were not good losses for Cortland. They were favored to win both games but didn't play well on each occasion. They did put together a 5 game winning streak after those two losses, against better teams than the Utica clubs were. This year they have a little more riding on the outcome of the game. They are putting their unblemished record on the line and the Wildcats are ranked lower than they were last year when this game took place. A loss here would really look bad on the resume.

SUNYIT is sporting a 2-4 record and lost to Utica College by a 93-88 score. That is the only common opponent these 2 teams share. Three of the Wildcats 4 losses have been by double digits.

The point spread favors the Red Dragons by a 12 point margin. That's close to my crystal ball which shows Cortland winning by a 77-64 final score.     

   
St. John Fisher     at  Buffalo State   7:00 PM

This game is a tossup between 2 teams looking to find the right chemistry on the court. Buffalo State has struggled to a 1-3 beginning compounded by the cancellation of 2 games and a lost weekend of conference play. Fisher dropped a game to Medaille that they probably should have won as they come into this contest with a 3-2 record and a 3rd place finish in the Wendy's College Classic last week. I'd like to pick the Bengals to win this game but the Cardinals' early season win over Oneonta and the maturation of Fisher's big man, Keegan Ryan, give me plenty of reason to think otherwise. The oddsmakers have made Fisher a slim 2 point favorite. I think the Cardinals will come away with an 81-74 win in Buffalo. Hope the Bengals make me eat those words though as I'd love to be wrong about this one.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2014, 06:04:13 PM
Cortland State defeats SUNYIT 75-49

I had this as a 77-64 Cortland win. Just missed the Cortland total but the Wildcats didn't put up much of a fight.

Cortland grabbed the early lead and managed to stay in front by a 2 possession margin for most of the first 8 minutes of play. Up 18-13 with 12:28 left in the half the Red Dragons went on a 12-4 spurt that boosted their advantage to a double digit 30-17 edge. They maintained that lead and settled for a 34-22 halftime score.

The Wildcats' Blake Haga hit a 3 pointer 9 seconds into the 2nd half to cut the deficit back to single digits. It would be the last time that the Wildcats would get that close. Cortland was in front 40-27 with 2 minutes gone in the period when they once again opened up the offense with a 4 minute, 15-3 burst, that put them in control 55-30. The lead ballooned to 32 points at 71-39 with 4:41 remaining. Cortland emptied their bench and coasted home. It was sweet revenge for the Red Dragons as they completed the turnaround of 2 losses last year to the Utica teams.

Blair Estafa came off the bench to lead Cortland with 16 points. James Morales had 14, and Lamard Herron added 10 points with a team high 6 rebounds.

Cortland remains unbeaten at 7-0 and will be off until Saturday, January 3rd, when they host the Medaille Mavericks at 2:00 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2014, 08:05:04 PM
Well, I was getting ready to watch the Buff State-St John Fisher game that D3hoops told me was coming on at 7:00 PM. Pulled up the webcast and could only get the Bengal women playing RIT. That was a rebroadcast of a women's game that was played at 4 PM. Went to the Buff State website and discovered that the Men played St.John Fisher at 2:00 PM and that the game was already in the books. So much for that.

It wasn't D3hoops fault as the Bengals changed the time of the game which had been originally scheduled for 7:00 PM but changed to the 2 PM start back on 11-25...according to the Bengals website. Unfortunately, they failed to notify the magicman of this schedule change. I get no respect these days. :P   

Anyway Buffalo State lost to Fisher by an 87-74 final score. I was fairly close with my prediction as I had the Cardinals winning this one 81-74. I thought that Keegan Ryan would be tough for the Bengals to handle and Fisher's big man poured in 26 points on 12x17 shooting. Eleven times the box score read "Keegan Ryan makes layup" so he had his way inside. He did make a jump shot to go with those 11 layups. If Ryan wasn't scoring from in close then Charles McVay and Optimystik Kinard were, as they also had a number of points in the paint. McVay ended up with a double-double of 15 points and a game high 10 rebounds, while Kinard had 17 points and 5 rebounds. Ryan had 6 rebounds to go with his game high scoring honors. Chaz Lott subbed in and scored 12 points with 7 assists.

The Bengals were led by Lovell Smith who had 19 points and 6 boards off the bench. Chris Thompson was next with 16 points and 8 rebounds. Rod Epps chipped in with 10 points.

Buffalo State falls to 1-4 and will return to action after Christmas when they travel to Montclair State to participate in a 4 team tournament. They will play the Penn State Mont Alto Nittany Lions on Saturday December 22nd at 3:00 PM in the 2nd game of the day. Penn State Mont Alto is a non D3 team that is a member of the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (USCAA) The host team Montclair State will face off against John Jay College at 1:00 PM. The 2 winners will meet in the Championship game at 3:00 PM on Sunday right after the consolation game at 1:00 PM.

St John Fisher improves to 4-2 and 2-1 against SUNYAC teams (a win against Oneonta, a loss to Geneseo). They will travel to Bethany West Virginia to take on Bethany College on Wednesday Dec. 17th at 7:00 PM.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on December 14, 2014, 07:56:49 PM
Cortland off to a great 7-0 start with some good wins including Trinity. SUNYAC looks to have another really good year. Lots of quality teams. Hopefully Oswego can get fully healthy for the start of January and February. Watched Geneseo twice last week and looked really good. Gordon Lyons is a great offensively efficient player.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2014, 04:19:43 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 came out on Monday and Cortland State continues to be the sole representative from the East Region. The unbeaten Red Dragons, currently 7-0 increased their point total from 10 to 15. They moved from a 3 way tie for the 41st spot to the 36th spot.

According to the NCAA D3 National statistics in games through December 14th the following SUNYAC players make the Top 50 in their respective categories..

Rebounds Per Game: #1 in the nation is Gordon Lyons Geneseo State with 13.7 rpg.    #4 Rashawn Powell Oswego State 12.4 rpg.      #40 Taylor Sowah New Paltz State 9.9 rpg

Points Per Game:  #10 in the nation is Gordon Lyons Geneseo State with 24.1 ppg.

Double-Doubles: #2 in the nation is Gordon Lyons Geneseo State with 7 in 7 games. The guy in 1st place has 8 in 9 games. I'm betting Gordon would have 9 in 9 games, making him #1 there as well.

Assists:  #10 in the nation is Mike Mitchell Plattsburgh State with 6.2 apg.    #37  Frankie Kelly Oneonta State 5.1 apg

Assist Turnover Ratio: #17 in the nation is Joe Estramonte  Potsdam State.  Joe has 20 assists with only 6 turnovers in5 games, for a 3.33 A/TO ratio.  #23 in the nation is Mike Mitchell with 37 assists to 12 turnovers in 7 games, for a 3.08 A/TO ratio.

Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage: #3 in the nation is Blair Estafa Cortland State 22x37  59.5%.   Not on the NCAA list because he's only played in 3 games and you have to have played in 75% of your teams games to qualify is Brockport State's Patrick Modzelewski.  Patrick has made 20x29 3 pointers for a 69% rate. The guy is 1st place has made 19x36 in 7 games for a 73.1% rate. the 2nd place player is 21x32 in 7 games for a 65.6%, so Patrick is really in 2nd place.

Free Throw Percentage: #4 in the nation is Zach Mager with 39x40 for a 97.5%. Zach has shot more than twice as many free throws as the 3 guys in front of him. They are all at 100% but have only attempted 18, 15, and 15. I'll take Zach's 39 of 40 over those 3 guys. Lets see where they stand after they have all had 40 attempts.

Minutes Per Game:  #7 in the nation is Gordon Lyons Geneseo State with an average of 38.1 mpg.   #46 is Taylor Sowah of New Paltz State with 35.4 mpg.

Steals Per Game:  #11 in the nation is Lamard Herron Cortland State with a 5.0 stpg average.

Blocked Shots Per Game: #40th in the nation is Devon Anderson of Geneseo State with a 2.0 bpg average.

I hope all these guys and maybe a few more continue to put up nationally ranked numbers. Would be nice to see them climb even higher on these lists. Go YAC.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
Great update there Magic. I'm currently on a Norwegian cruise line ship heading to Nassau. My only connection to the outside world is via Internet. I was hoping that you had a Yac update for us!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2014, 06:37:13 PM
Great update there Magic. I'm currently on a Norwegian cruise line ship heading to Nassau. My only connection to the outside world is via Internet. I was hoping that you had a Yac update for us!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2014, 12:49:41 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2014, 06:37:13 PM
Great update there Magic. I'm currently on a Norwegian cruise line ship heading to Nassau. My only connection to the outside world is via Internet. I was hoping that you had a Yac update for us!

You know Champ, some folks usually wait years to go on their 2nd honeymoon. I think Mrs. Bengalsrule and you are the first couple I've ever known, to go on their 2nd honeymoon like 3 months after their first one. :o  Sounds like it's going to be Christmas in Paradise. (As in Paradise Island.) It sure must be nice. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2014, 08:01:29 PM
Oneonta State travels south to take on The Roanoke College Maroons today in Daytona Beach at 8:00 PM

Roanoke has already played a SUNYAC team having disposed of Brockport State 83-61 in the consolation game of a season opening tip off tournament at Marymount University back on November 16th. The Maroons are currently 5-2 overall and are a member of the highly regarded Old Dominion Athletic Conference. Roanoke is currently 1-1 in conference play having lost on the road to undefeated Hampden-Sydney (7-0, 2-0) 71-67  and beaten visiting  Eastern Mennonite (6-3 1-1) 81-80.

Oneonta is 4-3 entering this game with 2 very good wins over Williams College and Plattsburgh State both of which came on the road. The team I watched defeat Plattsburgh State looked much better than a 4-3 team. If that team shows up today then I think they'll walk off the court with a win. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 3 point underdog. Both these teams can put points up on the board so it should be a high scoring game. I think the Red Dragons will put up a few more points than Roanoke and they'll win this game by an 84-80 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2014, 04:21:58 AM
Came home after working late in my store to check on the Oneonta State-Roanoke score.The game was played at Daytona Beach, Florida so there was no live stats or webcast available. Pulled up the D3hoops scoreboard and saw that Oneonta had won the game by an 81-69 final score. Also discovered that the game was played at 4:00 PM and not 8:00 PM as I thought it was. I never guessed that it was an afternoon game as it was Friday and usually those are evening games. The holiday tournaments have all kinds of start times different than the usual times and I should have known that but was to busy waiting on customers buying Christmas presents.

So I predicted an Oneonta victory by an 84-80 score about 2 hours after the game was already in the books. ??? At least I got the victory part right. My score wasn't too bad either. Except Roanoke couldn't keep pace with the Red Dragons and lost by a bigger margin that I thought they would. Nice win by Oneonta as they have now claimed a victory over a NESCAC team and an ODAC team...2 of the top 5 conferences in the country. That'll help the YAC's SOS.

Roanoke grabbed the early lead but a 3 point play by Zach Mager gave the Red Dragons their first lead at 6-5. The teams then traded 3 pointers and Roanoke scored an inside bucket to go in front 10-9 with 6 minutes gone by in the half. Another 3 point play by Oneonta's Kareem Williams followed by a steal and layup by the Red Dragon's Jack Dignan gave the good guys a 16-10 advantage. They would stretch that lead to 7 points on 4 separate occasions, before settling for a 5 point halftime edge 32-27.

The Maroons came out of the break and outscored Oneonta by a 14-5 margin over the first 3:38 of the 2nd half to match their largest lead of the game at 41-37. Nine straight points by the Red Dragon's Dynamic Duo, Mager and Frankie Kelly reversed that short lived lead in a hurry. First Kelly had a dunk off an assist by Dignan and then 10 seconds later Dignan stole the ball and fed Kelly for an easy layup. After a miss, rebound and miss by Roanoke, Mager buried a 3 pointer and followed that up with a layup to make it a 46-41 Oneonta lead with 13:32 remaining. The Red Dragons were never headed from that point on. The Maroons did get to within a single point two more times, the last coming at 48-47, but a 5 minute, 14-4 spurt, ending with back to back 3 pointers by Dignan and Mager, opened up a 62-51 double digit lead, with 6 minutes left to play. Mikey McElroy made back to back layups, Mager buried another triple and McElroy followed with a pair of free throws and the lead had ballooned to 15 points at 73-58. The Red Dragons hit 8 of 10 free throws down the stretch to maintain their double digit lead.

Zach Mager was the game's high scorer with 25 points (7x14 fg, 3x4 3's, 8x9 ft) and tied for the team lead in rebounds with 7. He did miss a free throw tonight (???) and is now only 47 of 49 from the line for the season. Mikey McElroy had 17 points (5x9 fg, 1x3 3's, 6x7 ft) and also had 7 rebounds. Frankie Kelly scored 13 points (4x11 fg, 0x3 3's, 5x7 ft) with 6 rebounds, 4 assists and a pair of steals. Kareem Williams (4xg fg, 2x2 ft) added 10 points and 6 boards in 17 minutes off the bench. Jack Dignan had 8 points (3x6 fg, 2x5 3's), 5 assists and 3 steals with 24 minutes of court time. Lawrence Coleman scored just 2 points but grabbed 7 rebounds in only 12 minutes of action. 

The stats in this game were amazingly even. Both teams were fairly close in their shooting percentages. Oneonta was 26x67 (38.8%) from the field and 6x20 (30.0%) from 3 point land. Roanoke was 26x68 (38.2%) from the field and 5x17 (29.4%) from long range. The rebounding battle failed to produce a winner as each team had 45 boards. And the breakdown for both teams...you guessed it dead even... 29 defensive rebounds and 16 on the offensive glass. Oneonta had 15 turnovers while Roanoke had a total of 16. Oneonta had a team total of 14 assists while Roanoke had 15.

Points off turnovers and the foul line told the story as the Red Dragons had 19 points off TO's to only 12 points for Roanoke. Oneonta went 23x27 (85.2%) from the stripe while the Maroons were 12x18 (66.7%). There's the MOV right there.

Roanoke had 3 players in double figures with Daniel Eacho leading the way with 17. Andy Daniels had 15 and Julian Ramirez added 10 points with 6 assists. Cameron Smith was the leading rebounder in the contest with 9 boards.

The Red Dragons improve to 5-3 (2-0 YAC) and will be back in action Saturday afternoon at 2:00 as they complete their Florida trip with another game against an Old Dominion Athletic Conference team. This time they will match up against the Bridgewater College Eagles.
Sure would be nice to go 2-0 against the ODAC. Go Red Dragons!! 
 
       

           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2014, 06:19:13 PM
Didn't get a chance to review the Oneonta State vs Bridgewater College game today as I've been too busy at my shop to even check out any scores. Still no information regarding that game as of 6:15 PM. It was a 2 PM start but neither school has posted anything on their websites and with no live stats or webcast there is no way of knowing any results until one of the schools puts something out there.

Bridgewater comes into this game with a 6-2 record having lost their first two games of the season and then ripping off 6 wins in a row. They are currently in a 3 way tie for 1st place in the ODAC conference with a 2-0 league record. What's interesting is that Bridgewater and Roanoke, the team Oneonta beat yesterday, have 1 common opponent, Ferrum College. Roanoke beat Ferrum 80-65 while Bridgewater lost to Ferrum 73-70. One other game that Bridgewater played that is worth noting....they barely beat a Mount Aloysius team 72-66 back on November 20th. Mount Aloysius just lost to Caltech on Thursday night which gave Caltech their first (and maybe only) win of the season. Yesterday, the oddsmakers had Bridgewater listed as a 2 point favorite in this game. I think Oneonta is the stronger team here, but my only concern is that they had to play on back to back days while Bridgewater hasn't played since last Tuesday. Still I'm taking the Red Dragons to win this game by an 86-77 final score.

Hope to get a score here in the next hour or so.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2014, 07:30:17 PM
Just saw a posted score on Bridgewater's website showing that the Red Dragons lost 73-72.  That sucks. No details as yet.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2014, 07:26:05 AM
Oneonta 72 Bridgewater 73

The Red Dragons probably wish they had a do over for the last 4:30 of this contest. Mikey McElroy hit a jumper for Oneonta to give them a 69-64 lead with 4:46 left on the clock. It would be the last field goal the Red Dragons would make. From that point until the final buzzer Oneonta missed 7 shots, which included 5 layups, had 3 turnovers and committed 4 fouls. Not the kind of stretch run you're looking for in a tight contest. Bridgewater made a basket and hit 3 of 4 free throws to tie the score at 69 with 3 minutes to play. Frankie Kelly hit 1 of 2 from the line to put Oneonta back in front but Bridgewater's go to guy, Ed Reddick, who was just named to the D3hoops Team of the Week, made a jumper to put the Eagles back in front for good. The Red Dragons had 3 chances on their next possession as they missed a layup, got the rebound, missed a 3 pointer, got the rebound and missed another layup. There was still 2:10 remaining and Oneonta got another gift when Bridgewater, after taking a timeout, turned the ball over. The Red Dragons returned the favor 25 seconds later and with 1:04 to go Bridgewater went to the line and hit a pair of free throws to make it a 3 point lead. Zach Mager was fouled and made both freebies to bring them within a point with 55 ticks left. Bridgewater continued to give the Red Dragons extra life as they missed a chance to up their lead and Oneonta got the rebound and had a chance to win it with 25 seconds left. The Oneonta coaching staff decided to let it roll and did not take a timeout. The clock wound down and Mikey McElroy drove for a game winning basket that didn't go down with only 4 seconds on the clock. The Eagles' Matthew Hunter grabbed the rebound and was fouled with 2 seconds left. He missed both free throws but Oneonta turned the ball over before getting off a final heave.

Nothing against McElroy as he is a fine player, but I watched that exact same scenario unfold when Plattsburgh played Oneonta 2 weeks ago and Frankie Kelley was the one who had the ball with 17 seconds to go. He drove the lane against our tallest player and best shot blocker...then made as sweet a layup as you'll see. I would of given him a chance for a deja vu moment there against Bridgewater.

McElroy was the game's leading scorer with 26 points (11x21 fg, 4x6 3's). he added 3 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 assists and a block to fill up the stat sheet. Zach Mager just missed a double-double as he had 16 points (5x12 fg, 3x7 3's, 3x4 ft) and a team high 9 rebounds. Kareem Williams also was just short of a double-double as he had 11 points (4x11 fg, 3x8 ft) and tied Mager with 9 rebounds. Frankie Kelly scored 9 points, handed out 7 assists and grabbed 6 rebounds.

Bridgewater outshot the Red Dragons in all 3 areas tonight. They were 30x62 from the field (48.4%), 4x7 from behind the arc (57.1%) and 9x14 from the line (64.3%). Oneonta was 27x67 (40.3%) from the field, 9x21 (42.9%) from long range, and only 9x17 from the line (52.9%). Two more made free throws could have been the difference. Oneonta did outrebound the Eagles by a 44-36 margin and they had 12 turnovers to 10 for Bridgewater.

Oneonta falls to 5-4 overall and will return to action after the holidays when they travel to Oswego for a date with the Lakers on January 6th at 5:30 PM.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2014, 01:39:23 AM
Merry Christmas to all the regulars that visit this board. I hope your wishes become reality and that the coming new year is better than the past year.

Peace on Earth would be nice for a change. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 27, 2014, 03:14:45 PM
Basketball returns as there is a SUNYAC team in action today.

Buffalo State vs Penn State Mont Alto  at Montclair State University in Montclair new Jersey 3:00 PM

The Bengals playing only their 6th game of the season and they are looking to get back on the winning path. After opening the season with a win over Medaille the Bengals have dropped 4 in a row but all 4 losses have come against teams with decent records. Hobart, Cortland, Oswego and St. John Fisher have a combined record of 21-6. Today's opponent the Lions from Penn State Mont Alto come into this game with a 7-3record with one of those losses against Division I Lehigh. They are currently the #1 ranked team in the country in the USCAA Division 2.  The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 3 point favorite in this game, despite the Lions lofty ranking in their division. I think the Bengals will win this game as well  and I see a final score of 76-69.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 27, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
Buffalo State game was late tipping off and then neither team could figure out how to put the ball through the hoop. The first score in the game took over four minutes of playing time before someone made a basket. Together the 2 teams missed the first 15 shots taken before Mont Alto finally put one in. The Bengals followed with their initial basket 18 seconds later and the teams finally seemed to get their offenses in gear, although the shooting percentages still weren't very good. It was a back and forth game for much of the first period and the score was tied at 23 with 3:11 remaining. Rod Epps then scored 6 straight points on a hoop and harm play followed by a 3 pointer 20 seconds later and Buff State grabbed the lead for good. Chris Cartwright (from out of the blue comes a former Bengal) then gets an old fashioned 3 point play and the Bengals stretch their lead to 36-29 when Leon Moise hits a layup with 1 second left on the clock before the half. 


Rod Epps led the Bengals with 10 points. Lovell Smith had 8 and Jordan Glover had 5 points.

Siele Johnson scored 11 to lead the Lions.


Final score  Buffalo State 78 Penn State Mont Alto 64. 

That was fairly close to my prediction of 76-69 Bengals. Buff State picked off a pass with 14 second left and the Bengal player, Larry Rivers was fouled and made both free throws, otherwise my 76 points would have been right on.

Bengals were a little sluggish coming out for the 2nd half and their 7 point lead quickly dwindled down to 2. However in the span of 46 seconds they quickly built the lead back to a double digit margin on the strength of a pair of Lovell Smith layups followed by a Chris Cartwright layup and a  Cartwright 3 pointer. A minute later Cartwright was fouled on a 3 point attempt and he stepped to the line and buried all 3 free throws and just like that the lead was 48-34 with 14:44 left to play. Seconds later Cartwright scored again to make it 50-34 and the Bengals had ripped off 14 unanswered points, the last ten by Cartwright, to open up their largest lead of the game. The Lions were still down 59-44 with 9:40 left to play when they made another charge to get back into the game. A 10-1 outburst by Mont Alto made it a 2 possession game at 60-54 with 6 minutes left to play, but the Bengals would have none of that as Larry Rivers hit 3 inside buckets and Rod Epps made two baskets to give Buff State a double digit lead once again at 72-61 with only 1:19 on the clock. The Bengals cruised to the finish line from there.

Chris Cartwright played in his first game in a Bengal uniform since March 11th 2011, when Buffalo State played St Mary's (Md) in the Sweet 16. He didn't look like he's been away from the game all that long as he led the Bengals with 17 points. Rod Epps and Lovell Smith both scored 14 points, while Larry Rivers was the 4th Bengal player in double figures with 12. Smith led Buffalo State with 10 rebounds which gave him a double-double for the night. Cartwright added 4 assists and 3 steals.

Mont Alto was led by Jeremiah Mitchell with 14 points. Siele Johnson and Jerome Evans both had 12 points.



Buffalo State will now face off against the host Montclair State Red Hawks on Sunday afternoon in the Championship game at 3:00 PM.

The point spread favors Montclair State by 4 points and if the Bengals hope to pull off a mild upset here then they will have to shoot the ball a heck of a lot better than they did today. They were 28x82 from the field (34.1%) and only 3x23 from the 3 point line (a pitiful 13.0%). They were 19x29 from the free throw line. (65.5%) The 3 best 3 point shooters on the team were all 1x7 so maybe tomorrow the law  of averages will come into play and they will all go 4x7 from long distance. Regardless, they will be playing better competition and it won't be on a neutral court. Bengals will need their "A" game on Sunday. Hope they have it because I'm picking them to win. I think it could be a track meet and the final will be something like:

Buffalo State 89 Montclair State 83.     


 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2014, 04:49:57 AM
In addition to the Buffalo State at Montclair State game today there is one other SUNYAC team in action.


Oswego State vs Haverford at Daytona Beach, Florida (Embry-Riddle)  8:00 PM

The 5-2 Lakers (should be 7-0) take on a team from the Centennial Conference that has only had one winning season in the past 7 years and that came 4 years ago in 2010-11 when the Fords were 14-12. The team is off to a 3-5 start this year and was beaten earlier in the season by RIT 71-62.  RIT came in 8th place in the recent Wendy's tournament so that gives me some sort of idea of where Haverford might fit if they were in the East Region. Not very high up on the totem pole. The oddsmakers have made Oswego a 9 point favorite in this one. I'll be surprised if the Fords can keep it that close. They don't seem to have much height and Oswego should control the boards. Both teams coming off  layoffs of more than 2 weeks. Could be a sloppy game and the Lakers have a tendency to play down to the level of their opponents (see losses to Elmira and Clarkson and a 1 point win over Fredonia as proof).  Still, I see the Lakers winning this one by an 80-67 final score. And it could be worse.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2014, 06:14:31 PM
Good prediction there Magicman. Bengals win by 5! Shouldn't have been that close but a win is a win.  You are right about Chris Cartwright ( Santa was good to the Bengals this year). He has picked up where he left off in March of 2011.  21 2nd half points ( MVP of tourney) was the difference in the 2nd half. Jordan Glover - All tourney (  13 pts, 15 boards, missed triple double by 1 assist) and Rod Epps - All tourney was on fire in the first 6 mins of the game ( 16 pts ,finished with 22) we're the difference makers.

Chris Thompson chipped in with 9 pts and 5 boards after an invisible first half. Larry Rivers nearly duplicated that effort with 8 and 4. Nothing but Yac games left but if feels good to close out 2014 with 2 wins on the road.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2014, 07:26:46 PM
Just got a score that shows Buffalo State defeating Montclair State by an 85-80 score. That's fairly close to the 89-83 final I thought might happen.

The Bengals were clearly the best team in this tournament. The consolation match was won by the team that the Bengals defeated yesterday as Penn State Mont Alto beat John Jay College 61-60.

I started typing this post around 5:45 when I got a score off of the Montclair State website. I was waiting to see if they were going to post a box score and then got sidetracked with supper.

I see my Bengal friend came on and gave us some stats.



Good job Champ, nice to see the Bengals end 2014 with a couple of W's. Chris Cartwright's return could be a big lift in conference play for Buffalo State. Kind of unfair that Oswego and Cortland will only see a Bengals team with him on it only once, while the rest of us have to face Buff State with Cartwright twice. I may have to lodge a protest with the Commissioner about that. 

And one more thing, Bengalsrule...it's not nice to keep secrets from the magicman. :o I know, that you knew, that Cartwright was coming back, yet nary a peep from you to inform me of that major gamechanging decision. ???  You should be ashamed of yourself. :P

And one more, one more thing....Is this Cartwright's last semester of eligibility?

By the way...the penalty for keeping me in the dark about Cartwright will be forthcoming and will probably be imposed on January 30th when Buffalo State comes to Plattsburgh.  Just wanted you to be aware of that. :-*   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2014, 11:45:20 PM
Oh Magic one.  I thought I had mentioned back in November that Santa had some gifts in store for my BENGALS. And Santa came thru...big time (I love that guy). I must admit, myBENGALScould use all the extra help. I hope that you an forgive me for missing the fact  that Santa had something special for us. But Santa doesn't like it when people know, before Xmas, what Santa has planned for them :)
And none of us want to offend Santa!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2014, 05:21:46 AM
Oswego State defeats Haverford College 82-43. I had the Lakers score fairly close with my 80-67 prediction but didn't think the Fords would put up such a pitiful amount of points.

Lakers were actually in a close game for about the first 12 minutes or so and the Fords managed to gain a 12-8 lead but Oswego went on a 15-3 run that essentially put the game away. They settled for a 34-25 halftime lead that quickly grew larger as the next period opened up. Five minutes into the period the lead was 20 points, that soon became 30 and ended up at 39. Coach Leone was able to get every one into the game early and nearly everyone got into the scoring action.

The Lakers' Brian Sortino led all scorers with 17 points, 3 assists and 2 steals. Walter Sampson was next with 13 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists. Mark Candelario had a double-double of 11 points and 10 rebounds in only 17 minutes of court time. He was a perfect 5 for 5 from the field. Pat Caruso had 8 points in 8 minutes while Louis Avellino had 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 9 minutes.

Lakers shot 34x61 (55.7%) from the field which included 9x22 from long distance (40.9%). As I mentioned yesterday, Oswego's height advantage, would prove to be a problem for Haverford and it was as the Fords were beaten off the boards by a 45-32 margin. Oswego's length also affected their shooting abilities as the Ford's only managed to knock down 16x61 (26.2%) of their shots from the field. They were even worse from downtown as they only hit 2 of 23 shots from beyond the arc (8.7%) No wonder they only scored 43 points. The Lakers made 34 baskets and 24 of those field goals were from an assist. Ian Shupp led the team with 5 dimes to go with his 5 points.

Gibby Graves was the only Haverford player to score in double figures with 11 points.

Oswego State improves to 6-2 and will play their last remaining out of conference game this evening against the Loras College Duhawks at 8:00 Pm also in Daytona Beach.

Loras College is a member of the Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference and they also played yesterday in Daytona beach as they defeated Lebanon Valley 72-69. They have a 4-5 record and will enter the game as a 6 point underdog according to the oddsmakers. Defense doesn't seem to be a strong point for the Duhawks as they give up an average of 79.1 ppg. That figure rises to almost 84 ppg when you look at just their losses. I think the Lakers will put a big number up as well.

Final score Oswego 85 Loras 74       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2014, 02:20:15 AM
Oswego State loses to Loras College 63-47.

Another headshaking loss by the Lakers to a team that they should have beaten. Oswego was down 27-21 at the half but was outscored by a 21-6 margin in the first 9 minutes of the 2nd period to fall behind by a 48-27 score. It was never close after that. Lakers with a bad night shooting in all 3 areas. They got hammered on the boards as well by a 47-29 margin. Rashawn Powell with 14 points and Kyle Covely with 10 points led Oswego in the scoring column.

Oswego now 6-3 when they should be 9-0. Hard to figure out which Laker team is going to show up this year. 

Oswego is back in action on Tuesday January 6th when they host Oneonta State in a matchup of 2 teams tied for first place in the conference. Game time is set for 5:30 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2014, 04:23:35 PM
1 game on tap today and it's the game of the week as the Plattsburgh State Cardinals travels to New Hampshire to take on the Undefeated (8-0) Owls of Keene State.

Last year these two teams met in Plattsburgh and the Cardinals put a licking on the Owls as they won by a score of 109-76. Keene State was without the services of their leading scorer Tom Doyle in that game but the senior forward's back and is once again leading the Owls with a 19.0 ppg average. Also returning is  junior Nate Howard their 7 foot center who is averaging 15 ppg. They also have an excellent point guard in sophomore Lucas Hammel who is averaging 6 points and 7 assists per game.

Plattsburgh is coming off a 3 week layoff and will be looking to get rid of the sour taste that's been in their mouth since a 2 point overtime loss to Oneonta State back on December 6th. The odds makers have made the Cardinals a slim 2 point road favorite which I find a little surprising since Keene is unbeaten and playing at home. I hope they are right as I'm picking my Caerdinals to win this one by a 79-74 final score.

The games is tipping off as I finish typing this. Here's a link to the webcast: http://portal.stretchinternet.com/keene/portal.htm?eventId=179628 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2014, 05:25:46 PM
Plattsburgh leads Keene State 45-33 at the half. Plattsburgh's point guard Mike Mitchell leads all scorers  with 11 points and 6 assists.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2014, 06:22:25 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats Keene State 99-94 as they hand the Owls their first loss of the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2015, 12:47:28 AM
Congrats on a quality win for the Cards and the 'Yac! Keene is currently ranked 51st in D3 (according to Massey) and the Little East is the 8th ranked conference in D3! Nuff said!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 01, 2015, 01:02:35 AM
Rare post on this board, but the Plattsburgh/Keene game turned out to be a pretty good one in the end (although certainly not the prettiest for either side I must say).  Good luck to your Cardinals as the season progresses, magicman.  Happy New Year as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2015, 07:11:43 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 01, 2015, 01:02:35 AM
Rare post on this board, but the Plattsburgh/Keene game turned out to be a pretty good one in the end (although certainly not the prettiest for either side I must say).  Good luck to your Cardinals as the season progresses, magicman.  Happy New Year as well.

Thanks for the well wishes AllStar and a Happy New Year to you. The Middlebury-Plattsburgh game coming up on Tuesday should be another excellent contest. Check out this link on Tuesday for an excellent webcast of the game. Gametime is 5:30 PM.

http://nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/

It's one of the best in the country. Good quality video, great announcers, even instant replay from time to time. It's done by an outside company with professional people that have no affiliation with the school. You don't end up with one of those poor quality feeds that have biased, terrible announcers, that never tell you the score or how much time is left.

By the way do you have a favorite team? I know you are partial to the Little East but don't know which school you root for. Do you live in a city where an LEC school is located?   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2015, 10:56:44 AM
Well the Cardinals welcomed in the New Year by defeating Keene State by a 99-94 final score. I predicted the Cardinals would win by a 79-74 final score. I had the margin of victory right, I was just 20 points shy on each team's total. I didn't think it would be a track meet and thought that Keene State might not want to run with the Cards, after getting pounded last year in Plattsburgh 109-76. I'm guessing they saw film of the Plattsburgh-Western Connecticut game and decided to mimic what the Colonials did in that game. What they didn't see on that game film was an absent point guard, Mike Mitchell.  So the Cardinals managed to split their 2 games with the LEC conference this year as they suffered the narrow loss at Western Connecticut. Both games against the LEC teams were on the road and both teams were unbeaten at the time the games were played. It's nice to earn at least a split.

I still maintain that if Plattsburgh had played that game at Western with their point guard, Mitchell, we would have won. Mike missed that game, I think because of the flu bug, and we didn't handle the press as well as we should have. However, the Owls found out what a healthy Mike Mitchell can do, as he was the leading scorer in the game Wednesday night with 22 points, a new career high. He was 4x8 from the field and 13x16 from the line. He also added 8 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.

This game also featured a matchup of big men as Keene brought 7 footer Nate Howard and the Cardinals countered with 6'6" Reggie Williams. Williams was clearly the winner of this battle as he outscored Keene's center 22 points to 11, to tie Mitchell for game scoring honors. He also had 10 rebounds to 8 for Howard and Williams had 4 blocks to only 1 for his counterpart. Reggie hit 11 of his 16 attempts from the field. Howard was 5 for 18. Williams just missed tying his career high of 24 points but did wind up with his 3rd double-double of the season. He is now the Cardinals leading scorer on the season, with 12.1 ppg, as well as their leading rebounder with 8.3 rpg.

Eddie Correa provided some timely long distance shots last night as he totaled 19 points and had 5 three pointers. Overall he was 7 of 10 from the field and 5 of 7 from downtown. It seemed like every time Keene State made a move to close the gap, Correa was there with another long bomb. Jordan Moody provided a big lift off the bench with 12 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists in 19 minutes of floor time. Ezra Hodgson was a fifth Cardinal in double figures with 10 points and he tied Williams with a team high 10 rebounds to get his double-double as well. Xavier Thomas just missed double digits with 9 points.

The Cardinals were down early in this game 3-0 but a Xavier Thomas layup and Correa's first 3 pointer made it 5-3 and Plattsburgh was never headed. Tied at 7 apiece, the Cardinals went on a 17-5 explosion that started with a 3 pointer by Hodgson and ended with a 3 pointer by Mitchell. Kind of fitting that these two, who are the only players on Plattsburgh State's roster  that come from the state of New Hampshire, were instrumental in their win tonight, in the Granite State. 8-) Hopefully they had a bunch of their hometown friends and relatives on hand to see their heroics. The Cardinals were now up 24-12 and they maintained that margin through halftime to go into the break up 45-33.

Keene State hung with the Cardinals and managed to cut the deficit to 54-48 with a little over five minutes gone in the 2nd period. Eddie Correa promptly buried a 3 pointer to build the lead back to 9 points. Two minutes later the Owls had narrowed the lead to 5 points at 57-52, but once again Correa, in the span of 23 seconds, hit a jumper, and after a Reggie Williams steal, nailed another one of his long range bombs. Williams then made back to back layups 29 seconds apart and the Cards had their largest lead of the game at 66-52. Williams continued his inside assault as he scored 5 more baskets over the next 5 minutes. He ended up  scoring 14 of the Cardinals' 20 points as they went from a total of 62 to 82 in a span of 6:48.

The Owls chipped away at the double digit lead and once more got to within 6 points, 82-76 on a Jaquel Edwards layup with 3:53 left to play. Edwards missed a chance for a 3 point play as he couldn't knock down the ensuing free throw.  The Cards came down and got, you guessed it, another 3 pointer from Correa to give them some more breathing room. It would be the last field goal Plattsburgh would make as the Owls started the foul parade and the Cardinals would score their final 14 points from the line, hitting 14 of 20 attempts.       

The Cardinals shot the rock a little better than Keene did and the Owls had a 51-43 edge in rebounding. Plattsburgh had 15 turnovers to 21 for the Owls.

Plattsburgh shooting stats:    From the field 32-67  47.8%   3 pointers 8-18  44.4%   free throws  27-41  65.9%
Keene State shooting stats:   From the field 33-77  42.9%   3 pointers 7-19  36.8%   free throws  21-31  67.7% 

Keene State was led by 2 players off the bench that both managed to get double-doubles. Jaquel Edwards, who normally starts, instead came off the bench today but still logged more court time than anyone else on the Keene State team with 29 minutes. He scored 12 points and had a game high 13 rebounds. Jeff Lunn led the Owls in the scoring department with 16 points and grabbed 12 boards. Paul Emdin and Nate Howard both had 11 points, while Tom Doyle and Dizel Wright each scored 10 markers.

Plattsburgh State improves to 6-2 overall (1-1 in the YAC) and will play their final non-conference game of the season when they host the undefeated Middlebury College Panthers on Tuesday, January 6th at 5:30 PM. That will prove to be another very entertaining contest and I encourage fans to watch it online if they can't make the game in person. It's an excellent webcast. One of the best in the country.

Here's the link to the Plattsburgh-Middlebury webcast:   http://nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/
               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 01, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2015, 07:11:43 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 01, 2015, 01:02:35 AM
Rare post on this board, but the Plattsburgh/Keene game turned out to be a pretty good one in the end (although certainly not the prettiest for either side I must say).  Good luck to your Cardinals as the season progresses, magicman.  Happy New Year as well.

Thanks for the well wishes AllStar and a Happy New Year to you. The Middlebury-Plattsburgh game coming up on Tuesday should be another excellent contest. Check out this link on Tuesday for an excellent webcast of the game. Gametime is 5:30 PM.

http://nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/

It's one of the best in the country. Good quality video, great announcers, even instant replay from time to time. It's done by an outside company with professional people that have no affiliation with the school. You don't end up with one of those poor quality feeds that have biased, terrible announcers, that never tell you the score or how much time is left.

By the way do you have a favorite team? I know you are partial to the Little East but don't know which school you root for. Do you live in a city where an LEC school is located?   

Yes, I follow Keene quite a bit so I root for them.  They are (I hope) improving from some down years recently.  It seemed you were surprised with Plattsburgh being favored in the game yesterday, but I wasn't.  Not after what happened last year and the fact that the Owls haven't played a very tough schedule yet (Springfield was probably the best team they had played before yesterday).  With the exception of last years disaster (from my point of view), the other 3 games in the series vs. Plattsburgh have been entertaining.  The Owls won 101-100 in overtime several years back, and the Cardinals took the matchup two years ago 70-64 and this one 99-94.  We shall see what happens.  There is no question Keene has to get better.  I'll be sure to follow that Plattsburgh/Middlebury game next week.  The Cardinals stuffed them last year if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 02, 2015, 09:46:43 AM
Magicman...Amherst's men's hockey team is up in your neck of the woods today for a Tourny.  Hope you guys are good hosts and not crush them too badly!
Looking forward to the Middlebury battle....hope to see some smiling faces on the video.
Oops...no smiling faces since the Cardinals vs Panthers will have no video.  Also Amherst is playing at ECSU on Tues...battle of ranked teams.  Guess, I will have to see your face and those of the Midd fans in the post season...in LeFrak maybe!  Live if that happens with drinks and food on me of course...at the WhiteHorse or wherever.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2015, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 01, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2015, 07:11:43 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 01, 2015, 01:02:35 AM
Rare post on this board, but the Plattsburgh/Keene game turned out to be a pretty good one in the end (although certainly not the prettiest for either side I must say).  Good luck to your Cardinals as the season progresses, magicman.  Happy New Year as well.

Thanks for the well wishes AllStar and a Happy New Year to you. The Middlebury-Plattsburgh game coming up on Tuesday should be another excellent contest. Check out this link on Tuesday for an excellent webcast of the game. Gametime is 5:30 PM.

http://nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/

It's one of the best in the country. Good quality video, great announcers, even instant replay from time to time. It's done by an outside company with professional people that have no affiliation with the school. You don't end up with one of those poor quality feeds that have biased, terrible announcers, that never tell you the score or how much time is left.

By the way do you have a favorite team? I know you are partial to the Little East but don't know which school you root for. Do you live in a city where an LEC school is located?   

Yes, I follow Keene quite a bit so I root for them.  They are (I hope) improving from some down years recently.  It seemed you were surprised with Plattsburgh being favored in the game yesterday, but I wasn't.  Not after what happened last year and the fact that the Owls haven't played a very tough schedule yet (Springfield was probably the best team they had played before yesterday).  With the exception of last years disaster (from my point of view), the other 3 games in the series vs. Plattsburgh have been entertaining.  The Owls won 101-100 in overtime several years back, and the Cardinals took the matchup two years ago 70-64 and this one 99-94.  We shall see what happens.  There is no question Keene has to get better.  I'll be sure to follow that Plattsburgh/Middlebury game next week.  The Cardinals stuffed them last year if I remember correctly.

The reason I was surprised that Plattsburgh was favored is that Massey had Keene ranked ahead of the Cardinals going into that game. He had the Owls ranked at #46 and Plattsburgh was ranked #51. Plus he has the LEC ranked #9 in the conference rankings while the SUNYAC is ranked  #21. Throw in the fact that the game was being played at Keene and usually that would make Keene a slight favorite.   I know we pounded the Owls last year but that was an aberration in the series and Keene didn't have Doyle playing in that game. Plattsburgh has played a tougher schedule but by the end of the year Massey has Keene's strength of schedule slightly better than the Cardinals.  I just thought that Keene would have been a slight favorite, based on all those facts, instead of the other way around. Just knew it would be a close game.

We did beat Middlebury rather handily last year in their house but that was also an unexpected result. The score was 63-47 and it was the lowest point total the Panthers had put up in 6 years. Usually these 2 teams go at each other tooth and nail.  Regardless of the kind of season they are having, this game is always close. The Panthers appear to be considerably stronger than last year and I expect Tuesday's game will be a real dogfight. Massey currently has Plattsburgh favored by 6 points over Middlebury. The Panthers play Salve Regina tonight and the point spread may change slightly before Tuesday's contest based on the results of this game, but I expect the Cardinals will be taking on another undefeated, 8-0 team, when they meet the Panthers.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2015, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: amh63 on January 02, 2015, 09:46:43 AM
Magicman...Amherst's men's hockey team is up in your neck of the woods today for a Tourny.  Hope you guys are good hosts and not crush them too badly!
Looking forward to the Middlebury battle....hope to see some smiling faces on the video.
Oops...no smiling faces since the Cardinals vs Panthers will have no video.  Also Amherst is playing at ECSU on Tues...battle of ranked teams.  Guess, I will have to see your face and those of the Midd fans in the post season...in LeFrak maybe!  Live if that happens with drinks and food on me of course...at the WhiteHorse or wherever.

Good morning amh63,

Amherst will have to get by Utica College in the hockey tournament before they get a chance at my Cardinals. ;) Utica doesn't have as gaudy a record as the Lord Jeffs, but they have played some common opponents with similar results. Still I expect the Cardinals Winter Classic championship game tomorrow evening to be a matchup of Amherst and Plattsburgh. And it should be a dandy.

Regarding the Middlebury-Plattsburgh State basketball game on Tuesday...there is a webcast of that game. You need to visit the website of the home team if you see that there isn't a video webcast listed on the D3hoops scoreboard. Many times the D3hoops scoreboard doesn't show a video link, when, in fact, a webcast is available. I always check the website of the home team if there is a game I really hope to see and the scoreboad doesn't give me a video link. More often than not I can get a video link when I go to the teams website. Usually the best place to find that link is to pull up the teams schedule and click on details for that particular game, but many times the team will have a link on the basketball homepage.  I see that the Middlebury-Plattsburgh game on the D3hoops scoreboard for Tuesday only shows a Livestats link. There is, however a webcast for that game and it is a very good quality production. The webcast is accompanied by an excellent team of broadcasters and since it's done by an independent company there is no biased commentary. They even have instant replay. The webcast is as good or better than any in the country. Here is the link for that webcast on Tuesday:

  http://nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/

The game will be starting at 5:30 PM so it will just about be over by the time your Lord Jeffs take the floor at 7:00 PM. Sounds like a good night for a double header for you!!! ;D I, of course, will be court side and I always sit in back of the Cardinal bench but I'm up at the top of the bleachers in the very last row. Not sure you'll get a chance to see my smiling face but I'll be the guy wearing a tan hat that has Saratoga written on the front.  I hope there is a smile on my face if you do pick me out of the crowd, cause I won't be smiling if we're behind. ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 02, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
Yes -- our scoreboard generally only has links for schools who choose to add them. If a school doesn't add links, we may not have the manpower to do it for them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2015, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 02, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
Yes -- our scoreboard generally only has links for schools who choose to add them. If a school doesn't add links, we may not have the manpower to do it for them.

You told me that 2 years ago, I think it was, and that's why I always go to a team's website if the D3hoops scoreboard doesn't show a video link. I'm a quick learner. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 02, 2015, 02:48:55 PM
Just sharing that detail with the rest of the posters here. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
One game scheduled today involving a SUNYAC team.

New Paltz State at Roanoke College    4:00 PM

The Hawks travel south to play an ODAC team that Oneonta tangled with 2 weeks ago. Oneonta managed to beat the Maroons by an 81-69 final score that day and Roanoke has had 1 game since then which also resulted in a loss by a 76-62 score to Marymount University. It was the 2nd time Marymount defeated Roanoke this year, having beaten the Maroons back on the opening day of the season. Roanoke's record stands at 5-4 for the year.

New Paltz is making the long trip south and only playing one game. Seems a little strange. It's a long way to travel for a singleton and even longer when the ride home is after a loss. I'd like to pick the Hawks to win this game but their 2-5 record doesn't leave me with a whole lot of hope for that to happen. The point spread favors the home team by a double digit 11 point margin. I'm thinking that the Hawks will keep it a little closer than that but will still absorb their 6th loss of the year. Final score will be Roanoke 76 New Paltz 69. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2015, 05:28:47 PM
New Paltz trails Roanoke College 33-30 at the break. 

Kevin Roach with 12 points to lead the Hawks. R.J. Rosa is next with 10 points.

Apparently the Hawks will play tomorrow as this is a 4 team tournament. When I looked at the D3hoops team page earlier today there was no game listed for tomorrow. It showed the Hawks next game to be a conference matchup on January 6th at Cortland. I thought it was strange that the Hawks would go all the way to Virginia for 1 game. I should have checked their website.

New Paltz will play either Eastern University or Swarthmore College at either 12 PM or 2 PM depending on the outcome of today's game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2015, 06:16:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
One game scheduled today involving a SUNYAC team.

New Paltz State at Roanoke College    4:00 PM

I'd like to pick the Hawks to win this game but their 2-5 record doesn't leave me with a whole lot of hope for that to happen. The point spread favors the home team by a double digit 11 point margin. I'm thinking that the Hawks will keep it a little closer than that but will still absorb their 6th loss of the year. Final score will be Roanoke 76 New Paltz 69.

Final score just in:
New Paltz loses to Roanoke College 77-69. As you can see from my above quote my crystal ball predicted this game as a 76-69 win for Roanoke. Missed it by a single point.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 02, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2015, 06:16:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
One game scheduled today involving a SUNYAC team.

New Paltz State at Roanoke College    4:00 PM

I'd like to pick the Hawks to win this game but their 2-5 record doesn't leave me with a whole lot of hope for that to happen. The point spread favors the home team by a double digit 11 point margin. I'm thinking that the Hawks will keep it a little closer than that but will still absorb their 6th loss of the year. Final score will be Roanoke 76 New Paltz 69.

Final score just in:
New Paltz loses to Roanoke College 77-69. As you can see from my above quote my crystal ball predicted this game as a 76-69 win for Roanoke. Missed it by a single point.

Not bad.  You are good at this prediction stuff!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2015, 09:21:19 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 02, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2015, 06:16:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
One game scheduled today involving a SUNYAC team.

New Paltz State at Roanoke College    4:00 PM

I'd like to pick the Hawks to win this game but their 2-5 record doesn't leave me with a whole lot of hope for that to happen. The point spread favors the home team by a double digit 11 point margin. I'm thinking that the Hawks will keep it a little closer than that but will still absorb their 6th loss of the year. Final score will be Roanoke 76 New Paltz 69.

Final score just in:
New Paltz loses to Roanoke College 77-69. As you can see from my above quote my crystal ball predicted this game as a 76-69 win for Roanoke. Missed it by a single point.

Not bad.  You are good at this prediction stuff!

Thanks Allstar,
My crystal ball is a new updated version with all the bells and whistles. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 11:53:48 AM
Three SUNYAC teams in action today as the out of conference portion of the schedules wind down.


Eastern University  vs   New Paltz State      12:00 PM 
Cregger Classic (Hosted by Roanoke) @ Salem, VA
   
Medaille  at  Cortland State      2:00 PM   
   
Potsdam State @   Hilbert      5:00 PM 
Hilbert Tip-Off Tournament 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 12:04:06 PM
New Paltz State vs Eastern University     12:00 PM

It's the Hawks against the Eagles in a match up of birds of prey. New Paltz may have found an opponent they can grab another win against as the Eagles are roosting near the bottom of the MAC Freedom conference with a 3-7 record, not much better than the Hawks 2-6 record. The oddsmakers have made Eastern a slim 1 point favorite so the game is basically a crapshoot. I'll take a chance and go with the Hawks here even though I said I probably wouldn't pick them again after they lost to Utica. I think the final score could be a 72-69 New Paltz victory.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 01:05:31 PM
New Paltz leads Eastern 49-37 with 12 minutes left in the game. Go Hawks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 01:37:38 PM
Medaille College at Cortland State  2:00 PM

The Medaille Mavericks take on their third team from the SUNYAC (1 more to go as they host Fredonia on Jan. 27th) and are looking for their first win against a YAC team since November of 2011. They have went 0-6 in that time span losing 4 games last year and both contests so far this year. (Losses at Buff St. and Geneseo) 

Cortland won a close game at Medaille last year winning 61-59 and the Red Dragons would like to keep their unbeaten streak alive with a victory today. Medaille gave Geneseo all they could handle earlier, only losing by an 80-77 margin and they managed to defeat Empire 8 favorites, St John Fisher, at Fisher's home court in a nailbiter, 68-67. So the Red Dragons better not take the Mavericks too lightly here. The point spread favors Cortland by a double digit 11 point margin. I think that might be a bit high. I'm taking the Red Dragons to win but I think it will be a final score of 78-71.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 02:51:43 PM
New Paltz defeats Eastern by a final score of 76-62.



Cortland leads Medaille at the half 35-26.

Lamard Herron with a big 1st half for the Red Dragons as he dropped in 15 points.

Ryan Grandits led Medaille with 9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 04:38:12 PM
New Paltz defeats Eastern by a 76-62 final score.  With 1:30 to go the score was 70-59 but New Paltz had 3 steals in a 30 second span that resulted in 5 quick points. My prediction of 72-69 would have been a little closer without those Eastern turnovers. Glad to see the Hawks come away with a win here.

New Paltz jumped out to quick leads of 6-0 and 13-4 but eventually allowed the Eagles to catch them and take the lead 25-24 on 2 free throws with 4:46 remaining in the first half. New Paltz, fueled by 8 straight points by Eric Regenbogan  went on a 10-2 run to end the half however and took a 34-27 lead into the break.

The Hawks opened up a double digit lead early in the 2nd half on another 3 pointer by Regenbogan to make it 42-31 but the Eagles, after falling further behind at 51-37, slowly chipped away at the lead and pulled to within a single point at 53-52 with 7:33 remaining.  The Hawks R.J.Rosa scored on a layup and then Regenbogan hit another 3 point bomb to build the lead back to 6. The Hawks then scored on 5 consecutive possessions, all on layups, to build the lead back to 68-57 and they coasted home with the win.

Regenbogan led all scorers with 22 points (8x12 fg, 4x7 3's, 2x3 ft) and added 4 steals with 2 assists. Taylor Sowah posted a great stat line of 15 points (5x9 fg, 0x1 3's, 5x5 ft) 11 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals and a block. A nice day at the office. Kevin Roach had 12 points (6x9 fg), 8 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal. R.J. Rosa also had double figures with 10 points (4x9 fg, 2x4 3's, 0x1 ft).

Eastern was led by Shaquan Turk with 12 points and Tarek Hamzeh with 10.

Hawks outshot and outrebounded the Eagles 45-31, but committed 27 turnovers to 21 for Eastern.

The shooting stats were:

New Paltz: Field goals 31-59 52.5%  3 pointers  6-16 37.5%   Free throws  8-12 66.7%

Eastern:    Field Goals 19-62 30.6%  3 pointers  8-32 25.0%   Free throws 16-22 72.7%

New Paltz improves to 3-6 (1-1 YAC) and will return to action Tuesday Jan. 6th when they travel to Cortland to face the undefeated Red Dragons.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
Cortland defeats Medaille rather easily 76-48. I had this as a Cortland win by a 78-71 final. Almost hit the Cortland score right on the button missing by a single basket but expected the Mavericks to put up more of a fight.

The Red Dragons broke loose from a closely contested affair near the end of the first half of play. Cortland led for most of the 1st period but Medaille hung with them and finally went ahead 21-20 on a layup by Jammal Coleman with 5:47 left in the half. Cortland didn't waste any time getting the lead back and this time it would last. Lamard Herron got a steal and a layin to put the Red Dragons back in front 23-21 and Cortland ended the half on a 15-5 run to grab the lead at the break 35-26.

The Red Dragons put this game away at the very beginning of the 2nd half. Herron opened the period with a long distance basket, followed by a steal and layup by Shayne Martinez. James Morales followed with another layup, and Martinez tipped in a Red Dragon miss and the lead was 18 with only 3:15 gone by. The Mavericks never got closer than 12 points after that and the lead ballooned to the final margin of 28 points.

12 Cortland players broke into the scoring column led by Lamard Herron with 18 points (6x14 fg, 4x7 3's, 2x3 ft), 7 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals. T.J. Hefele came off the bench to score 14 points ( 4x8 fg, 3x5 3's 3x5 ft), with 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Medaille was Led by Ryan Grandits with 15 points and Jammal Coleman with 10 points.

Cortland won the statistical  battle in nearly every category. They outshot  the Mavericks, had the edge in rebounding 49 to 34. They committed 16 turnovers to 26 for Medaille.

The shooting stats were:

Cortland State    Field goals 28-72  38.9%   3 pointers 10-31 32.3%   Free throws  10-15 66.7%

Medaille             Field goals 16-48  33.3%    3 pointers 2-16 12.5%    Free throws  14-19 73.7%

Cortland ups their record to 8-0 (2-0 YAC) and continues to lead the East Region. It is the 2nd best start in school history. They will host New Paltz on Tuesday Jan. 6th at 2:00 PM in an attempt to equal their best start ever, which was 9-0 by the 1952-53 team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2015, 05:57:22 PM
Potsdam State at Hilbert

The Bears finally get to play in the Hilbert Tip Off Tournament albeit a month and a half later than it was supposed to tip off.
Hilbert is quietly putting together a nice campaign as they enter this game with an undefeated 7-0 record. Normally a team from the AMCC conference would be an underdog playing against a team from the SUNYAC unless it happens to be the top team in the AMCC playing one of the bottom teams in the YAC. That's what we have taking place here today. The oddsmakers have made the Hawks a 10 point favorite in this contest. That seems like a big number to me as the Bears, bad as their record may be have been able to play against everyone they've been up against. Their 5 losses have been by a combined 23 points, so they're certainly not getting blown out of the water. I can't pick them to win this game but I think they keep it close. I hope I'm wrong on this one and they manage to pull off the upset, but I see them going down by a 74-67 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2015, 06:36:21 AM
Potsdam State falls to Hilbert 90-71.

Hilbert jumped out to an early 7-0 lead but the Bears came back and caught them at 12 each after 6 minutes of play. The Hawks regained the lead and extended it by as much as 6 points, until Potsdam took their first lead of the game on a long ball by Mitch Lamerson to go in front 32-31 with 4:27 remaining in the half. It was the only time the Bears had the lead and it lasted for all of 20 seconds. The Hawks got a pair of free throws on their next possession from Xavier Major to go back in front and that started a 13-4 burst to end the half.  Hilbert followed those 2 foul shots with an old fashioned 3 point play from Jordan Kumro, a tip in by Major and back to back 3 pointers by Trevor Stark to push the lead to double digits at 44-34. The half ended with the Hawks up 44-36.

The Bears got a quick jumper from Joe Estramonte to open the 2nd period and narrow the gap to 6, but that was as close as they got the rest of the game. Hilbert quickly built a 10 point lead and gradually increased it throughout the half. The largest advantage was 22 points occurring with 3:04 remaining and a score of 88-64.

The Bears got 12 points off the bench from Rashawd Hendricks to lead their effort. He added 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals. Zac Adams was the only other Potsdam player with double figures as he tallied 11 points. Connor Engle led the team with 11 rebounds.

Hilbert place 5 players in double figs and scoring honors went to Trevor Stark with 21 points. He also had 6 assists and 3 boards. Sean Weisansal had 17 points, 5 assists, and 6 steals. Ryan Bradt had 14 points with 5 rebounds, Jordan Kumro had 11 points and Malique McCoy had 10. Jerame Owens only had 4 points but grabbed a game high 13 rebounds, had a game high 5 blocks and equaled the game high total of 6 assists.     

Hilbert shot almost 50% and the Bears shot 34.6%. The Hawks made 7 three pointers and the Bears were only 4x26 from long distance. That's the big story of the game. I watched a lot of this game and way too many shots were thrown up from downtown that weren't even close. Both teams had 45 rebounds and they both had 17 turnovers.

Potsdam falls to 1-6 overall (0-2 YAC) and will take on John Carroll in the consolation game on Sunday at 1:00 PM. John Carroll lost to Nazareth by an 85-80 score in a game prior to the Bears game.  Hilbert, now 8-0, will take on Nazareth for the Championship game at 3:00 PM.

The Bears won't get any relief tomorrow when they take the floor against John Carroll. The Blue Streaks are favored to win by a 20 point margin. They are currently 7-3 and just last Tuesday handed D3hoops #18 St Norbert their 1st loss of the season 80-70. I was surprised that Nazareth managed to win this game.  The Blue Streaks are just what their name implies as they streak up and down the court with their fast tempo. The Bears better put their track shoes on and hope they can hang with these guys. I don't think they can and see the outcome as another Potsdam loss. This one will be by a 94-72 final score.

Hope I'm wrong about this one though.   

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2015, 01:32:37 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 02, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2015, 06:16:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2015, 02:52:42 PM
One game scheduled today involving a SUNYAC team.

New Paltz State at Roanoke College    4:00 PM

I'd like to pick the Hawks to win this game but their 2-5 record doesn't leave me with a whole lot of hope for that to happen. The point spread favors the home team by a double digit 11 point margin. I'm thinking that the Hawks will keep it a little closer than that but will still absorb their 6th loss of the year. Final score will be Roanoke 76 New Paltz 69.



Final score just in:
New Paltz loses to Roanoke College 77-69. As you can see from my above quote my crystal ball predicted this game as a 76-69 win for Roanoke. Missed it by a single point.

Not bad.  You are good at this prediction stuff!

Omg. Don't tell magicman that.  His head won't fit through the Cards gymnasium door!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
The noggin is a little bigger today than it was yesterday. But that's because of all the Christmas goodies I been loading up on. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2015, 01:39:59 PM
The noggin is a little bigger today than it was yesterday. But that's because of all the Christmas goodies I been loading up on. :D

;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2015, 05:37:56 PM
Reggie Williams is this week SUNYAC player of the week.

From the 'Yac....
Reggie Williams, Plattsburgh
Yonkers, N.Y. / Gorton HS
Senior Reggie Williams came up with one of the best games of his career to help the Plattsburgh State men's basketball team knock off previously undefeated Keene State 99-94 on the road. The Yonkers, N.Y., product amassed a team-high 22 points and completed his double-double bid by yanking down 10 rebounds. It's the third double-double for Williams this season and his second straight. The final-year man also contributed four blocked shots and a pair of steals to the Cardinals' win.

Congrats to the Cards and Reggie. I must admit that I thought that it would be Chris Cartwright who returned to the BENGALS line up after a nearly 4 year hiatus and took MVP honors at the Montclair State tourney with a 19 pts per game average including a 21 pt 2nd half vs MSU in the Championship game. I was wrong. Clearly Reggie's stats were very impressive and very deserving of this weeks honors. Don't worry Magicman. I will tell him myself this Saturday. In fact does he like the nightlife? I've heard about this little club in Canada that has some wild entertainment on Friday night. Hmmm I'm wondering what he and Mike Mitchell are doing Friday night after the Fredonia game? Maybe I'll drive over to their hotel and  .............. ;)
























Just joking ::)   :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2015, 07:03:23 PM
Congratulations to Reggie Williams of Plattsburgh State for his selection as this weeks selection as
the  SUNYAC Player of The Week.

Reggie's performance against Keene State was outstanding and I was glad to see that he grabbed POTW honors. I hope he's got a chance for back to back awards because of his play in tomorrow night's game against Middlebury. Another 11 for 18 night from the field would be fine, Big Guy!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2015, 04:15:17 AM
Sunday's game:  Potsdam 57  John Carroll 93

I was afraid this one could get ugly and it sure did. I said the Bears would lose 94-72 and while I almost hit the Blue Streaks number right on the button Potsdam was quite a ways away from my total of 72. A quick look at the box score shows that John Carroll shot 51.1% from 3 point range and that wasn't a puny 4x7 or 5x9 when you usually see a high percentage from long distance. Nope... the Blue Streaks made 16 three pointers in 31 attempts. That's 48 points scored from behind the arc which is close to what the Bears scored in the entire game. Potsdam on the other hand didn't shoot well from anywhere as they were 21x62 from the field (33.9%) and 5x20 (25%) from 3 point range.

The Bears were only in this game for about 10 minutes and then were down by double digits. The knockout punch was the final 5 minutes of the first half. Potsdam was down 32-20 but instead of narrowing that margin they allowed the Blue Streaks to end the period on a 23-6 outburst that resulted in a 55-26 halftime deficit.

The Bears' brief highlight was the start of the 2nd period when Joe Estramonte hit back to back 3 pointers to open the scoring and cut the lead from 29 to 23. John Carroll then scored 11 of the next 15 points to build the lead back up to 30 and it was just a question of how big the final margin would be. At it largest, the lead was 85-40 with 7:45 remaining.

The Bears were led by Rishawd Hendricks with 12 points and Greg Torchon with 10. Estramonte and Zac Adams both had 8 points while Adams led the team with 7 rebounds. 

The Bears fall to 1-7 (0-2 YAC) and will be off until this coming weekend when they make the long trip to Western NY to take on Buffalo State on Friday at 5:30 PM. After the results of this past weekend's trip to Western NY that's probably the last place the Bears want to return to. On the positive side however is an opportunity to put one in the win column as they get the other struggling YAC team, Fredonia State 1-5 (0-2 YAC), on Saturday. Somebody will end up with a 2nd W on the board.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2015, 04:31:12 AM
Nearly a full slate of action today in the SUNYAC as Potsdam State is the only team not in action. Here's the lineup:

Jan. 6   

New Paltz State  at  Cortland State        2:00 PM   

Geneseo State  at  Fredonia State        5:30 PM

Brockport State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM
   
Oneonta State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM   

Middlebury     at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2015, 06:16:26 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll was released Monday night and Cortland State has moved up to #30 as they get 39 points in the Others Receiving Votes category. That's an increase of 24 points from the last poll when they were in the #36 spot with 15 points. No other team from the East Region is getting mentioned.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2015, 02:40:51 PM
New Paltz State at Cortland State  2:00 PM

The Red Dragons look to keep their unbeaten streak alive as they take on a New Paltz team that has struggled to find any consistency so far this year. Hawks have yet to win 2 games in a row but could do so today as they are coming off a win over Eastern University last Saturday.

Cortland fresh off a #3 ranking in the D3hoops Top 25 poll  doesn't want to take a step backward here. They have won 6 0f the past 8 games against the Hawks and the odds makers have made them a healthy 17 point favorite in today's game. I think the Hawks will keep it closer than that but Cortland will prevail by a 72-64 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2015, 04:04:58 PM
Middlebury  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM

This is the game of the night and could be the best non-conference matchup of the year in the SUNYAC. Oneonta's games against Williams (a road win 74-68) and Eastern Connecticut (a neutral court loss 101-78) will also rank right up there. The result won't be known until we see how Middlebury, Williams and Eastern Connecticut end up in conference play.

The real possibility exists however, that Plattsburgh and Middlebury could wind up winning their conference's regular season crown, or conference tournament. Certainly both teams have gotten off to a good start and they are considered to be among the top teams in the SUNYAC and NESCAC.

The Panthers come into tonight's contest with a sparkling 8-0 record. Usually when Middlebury sports an unblemished record, and they have done so on a number of occasions in the past 6 years, they find themselves highly ranked in D3hoops Top 25 poll. And by highly ranked I'm talking Top 10 or better. However, this year the Panthers have received very little love and weren't even mentioned in the first 3 rounds of voting. They made their entry in week #3 with 4 points,
and slowly over the next 2 polls gained additional points. They have now accumulated 35 points and the latest D3hoops poll that was released Monday night has moved them up to #31 in the rankings. The SUNYAC's Cortland State, also undefeated at 8-0 is ranked just in front of the Panthers at #30 with a total of 39 points.

Middlebury in a 5 year stretch from the 2008-09 season through the 2012-13 season had an incredible record of 128-18. Their worst season in that span was 24-4 and their best was 28-2. I'm not sure but I don't think there was a team in D3  that had a better record in those 5 years. Last year was a down year when they were "only" 17-9. That down year is part of the reason they aren't higher in the Top 25 poll. They received no love in the Preseason Poll and have had to climb up slowly by remaining perfect. They have been able to do that because of an extremely weak schedule. That's the other reason they aren't ranked any higher in the poll.

None of the teams Middlebury has played, entering tonight's contest, has a winning record. Two of them are at .500 and one of those two, St. Joseph (Vt) isn't even a D3 school. Two of their opponents have won 1 game. One of them has won 2 games, and 2 of them have won 3 games. The overall won lost record of the teams the Panthers have played is 26-55. They have a Strength of Schedule rating right now of 379 out of 416. The Panthers have, for the most part, taken care of business, but a narrow 2 point win at Univ. of New England and a single digit win over RPI raises some questions. Their best win came at home against Skidmore and the miracle of the loaves and fishes had nothing on the wondrous occurrences that took place in Pepin Gym on that Saturday afternoon which enabled the Panthers to walk off the floor with a win.

Plattsburgh enters this game fresh off a win over another undefeated team and would love nothing better than to make it two in a row. It would also give the Cardinals a winning streak over the Panthers, something that hasn't happened in recent memory, if ever. Plattsburgh handed Middlebury one of the worst defeats of their season last year and I'm sure that Coach Jeff Brown hasn't let his team forget that fact. 

On paper this should be an excellent matchup. Both teams have a potent offense with the Panthers averaging 83.6 ppg and the Cardinals 79.8 ppg. The defensive numbers favor the Panthers as well as they allow 64.2 ppg to the 71.8 ppg that the Cards give up.

What doesn't show up in the stats though is the strength of schedule and as was mentioned above the Panthers do not have a very good SOS. Plattsburgh however, has an excellent SOS, ranked #77 in all of D3. The combined won-lost record of the 8 teams the Cardinals have played is 47-33.  That's a .587 winning percentage. The Panthers opponents winning percentage is only .320. So it stands to reason that Middlebury would score more points and give up less than the Cardinals would, as Plattsburgh has been playing a much tougher schedule.           

All that being said, the fact that Middlebury has played a weak schedule doesn't mean they would falter if they had played a stronger one. Tonight's game will certainly be a good test. Plattsburgh has lost 2 games and they were both down to the wire contests. They will want to protect their home court but that could be easier said than done. The Panthers have a 5-2 lead in this series over the past 7 years. They are 2-2 in Middlebury but are 3-0 in Plattsburgh. The friendly confines of Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall have suited them just fine. The teams have one common opponent in Skidmore. They both beat the Thoroughbreds...Plattsburgh 60-57 in overtime at Skidmore.....Middlebury 57-56 at home.   

The oddsmakers have also looked hard at the SOS of these two teams and have concluded that the Cardinals are 6 point favorites. I think it might be just a bit closer and see the Cardinals winning by a 78-74 final score . 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 06, 2015, 05:23:09 PM
So 2 questions Magic:

1) Why is the New Paltz/Cortland game at 2 PM on Tuesday??
2) Why all the tips at 5:30??  Are SUNY teams playing men's game first before the women's game this year??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
I'll answer 2 first.  Some great thinkers thought it would be a brilliant idea to have the m n play before the women in conference games in his season.  Voted on last summer.

1 (and this is what was told today), Cortland coach Spanbauer, asked new pants to come to cortland earlier so they could play the game at 2.  And New Paltz agreed!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 06, 2015, 08:33:04 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
I'll answer 2 first.  Some great thinkers thought it would be a brilliant idea to have the m n play before the women in conference games in his season.  Voted on last summer.

1 (and this is what was told today), Cortland coach Spanbauer, asked new pants to come to cortland earlier so they could play the game at 2.  And New Paltz agreed!

Wow.  If there are doubleheaders, I'm a fan of having the women's game first and the men's game second. 

...and Cortland may want to rethink that idea since they lost to New Paltz.  Probably won't do that again.  The coach is probably kicking himself.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2015, 09:01:27 PM
Well here are the picks I made before I left to go take in the Middlebury-Plattsburgh game. I posted them at 4:50 and left to go to the game. Apparently they didn't go through to the SUNYAC board as I just walked into my office to see them staring me in the face. I haven't checked yet to see how I did. I just know I lost the Plattsburgh  game and the Cortland game that I posted the scores for earlier.   

Getting ready for the big game so I've only got time for some quick picks of the 3 other SUNYAC games on tap for tonight.

Geneseo State  at  Fredonia State        5:30 PM

The Knights should have way too much firepower for Fredonia. Geneseo is playing their first SUNYAC game of the season and will make sure they get off on the right foot here. The point spread has the Knights favored by 11 points but I think they win by more than that. I see a final score of Geneseo 78 Fredonia 61 

Brockport State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM

Can the Bengals get a win tonight and put an end to a 7 game losing streak against the Golden Eagles? Can Brockport repeat the success they've had since newcomer Patrick Modzelewski joined the team. Back to back wins over Hobart and Nazareth in the Wendy's tournament brought renewed life to Coach Dunnes's team after starting with a 1-4 record. The long layoff may hurt though as they haven't played in 31 days. The Bengals  shook off their rust last week by winning the Montclair State tournament. The return of all conference performer Chris Cartwright to Buffalo State bodes well for the Bengal faithful. He looks like he hasn't missed a beat in his several years away from the team.

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a slight 1 point favorite but I don't think they have factored Cartwright's return into the equation. Still I'm a doubting Thomas and until the Bengals prove to me that they can beat Brockport I'm sticking with the Golden Eagles. This will be a rough and tumble affair but I see a Brockport win by an 84-80 final score.   
   
Oneonta State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM

This is another good matchup that will be a hard fought affair. Both teams have been inconsistent so far this season. Oneonta has quality wins at Williams and at Plattsburgh, yet faltered against Hartwick and more recently against Bridgewater Virginia, a team they should have beat. The Lakers have been full of surprises as well. They own a 60-50 win over that Hartwick team that beat Oneonta but have losses against Elmira, Clarkson and Loras, all games  they should have won.

The point  spread favors the Lakers by a single point. I think they win a close one at home by a 74-71 final   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 06, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
I'll answer 2 first.  Some great thinkers thought it would be a brilliant idea to have the m n play before the women in conference games in his season.  Voted on last summer.

1 (and this is what was told today), Cortland coach Spanbauer, asked new pants to come to cortland earlier so they could play the game at 2.  And New Paltz agreed!

I still think the UAA does it on Sundays and some other conferences (CCIW & WIAC) do it occasionally but I can't think of ANY reason why playing the women's game after the men's game makes any sense at all.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 06, 2015, 10:41:49 PM
Well Magic -here is my first visit to the YAC board and it comes on the heels of the only team to represent the East going down to defeat.  Season is early though....have hopes for a couple of top YAC and LL teams to go on a late season run!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2015, 10:58:36 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 06, 2015, 10:41:49 PM
Well Magic -here is my first visit to the YAC board and it comes on the heels of the only team to represent the East going down to defeat.  Season is early though....have hopes for a couple of top YAC and LL teams to go on a late season run!!

Keep
HOPE
alive!

Welcome back!!!!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2015, 02:58:08 AM
Quote from: 7express on January 06, 2015, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
I'll answer 2 first.  Some great thinkers thought it would be a brilliant idea to have the m n play before the women in conference games in his season.  Voted on last summer.

1 (and this is what was told today), Cortland coach Spanbauer, asked new pants to come to cortland earlier so they could play the game at 2.  And New Paltz agreed!

I still think the UAA does it on Sundays and some other conferences (CCIW & WIAC) do it occasionally but I can't think of ANY reason why playing the women's game after the men's game makes any sense at all.

Well 7 express, I'll give you the definitive reason/reasons why playing the men's game first make sense. I'm not saying I agree with them but these are the main reasons that the switch was done.

1. The women have played second fiddle to the men for a long time and depending on what time you, as a men's coach, want to play your game, this is simply equal rights. If you're a men's coach and youwant to play the early game, now you have the opportunity. If you are a men's coach and you hate playing in the early game, well probably a lot of women's coaches don't like it either. The logical assumption is this year the men play early and the women late. Next year it is reversed and so on for subsequent years, thus equal treatment.

2. A number of men's coaches wantto play in the early game and are glad the switch was made. This way their players can be dressed, fed, and resting much earlier (about 3 hours) than if they had the late game. Some schools that travel with the men on one bus and the women on another bus will now be able to get on the road 3 hours quicker that they could if they played after the women. In a number of cases they are now home in bed instead of just walking off the court.

If it was up to me I'd schedule the women first and change the starting time back to 6:00 PM. The 5:30 start is just too early. I think the women benefit from having more fans watching their game if they play early, than late. After the men's game was over tonight most of the fans left. I stayed and watched the first half as did others but then we left during the break. Very few people watching the end of the game.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2015, 05:57:19 AM
Final score from Tuesday's games:

New Paltz 78  Cortland 73
I had Cortland winning this 72-64 and the point spread had New Paltz losing by an even greater margin of 17 points. So what do the inconsistent Hawks do.....they go on a 28 to 5 run and turn an 11-6 deficit into a 33-16 advantage, while holding the Red Dragons scoreless for a 5 minutes stretch. They went into the locker room up 33-20 at the break. They continued their inspired play into the 2nd half and increased their lead to a game high 20 points at 48-28 with 13:14 to go on back to back R.J. Rosa 3 pointers. After Cortland narrowed the lead down to 12, Rosa struck again with a long bomb to make it 55-40 and Cortland was running out of time. The Red Dragons made a push and cut it to 60-53 with 5:43 left but the Hawks went back up by 12 on another 3 point play by Kevin Roach and Cortland had too little, too late, to make up the difference. It was still 76-65 with 35 seconds left and a couple of Cortland 3 pointers near the end made it look respectable, but make no mistake the Hawks dominated this game from midway in the 1st half right on through the final buzzer. This ranks as the upset of the year so far in conference play. You have to hand it to the Hawks for getting it done in Cortland. Never an easy place to get a W. Just ask Buffalo State.

R.J. Rosa may have had a career high tonight as he pumped in 31 points for the visiting Hawks to lead all scorers. He was 10x16 from the field and 7x9 from downtown. He was perfect from the line, 4x4, and added 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 1 assist.

Taylor Sowah had another double-double with 13 points and a game high 15 rebounds. He did most of damage from the free throw line hitiing 9 of 15 attempts.

Kevin Roach added 11 points 7 rebounds and 3 steals. Andrew Seniuk had 9 points 5 rebounds and 2 steals.

Hawks had 43 rebounds to 37 for Cortland. Turnovers were high for both teams with New Paltz committing 23 and Cortland 21.

T. J. Hefele was high man for Cortland with 20 points (7x11 fg, 5x9 3's, 1x2 ft) and also had 5 rebounds. Blair Estafa added 13 points and Lamard Herron tossed in 10.

New Paltz improves to 4-6 overall and 2-1 in conference play. They will host Brockport State this Friday at 5:30.

Cortland drops their first game of the season and falls out of undisputed possession of 1st place in the YAC. The Red Dragons are now 8-1 overall and 2-1 in conference. They will travel to Oswego this Friday to try and gain a measure of revenge against the Lakers who beat them in back to back games last year in late February to bring the Red Dragons season to a close.

Cortland's loss on Tuesday will undoubtedly get them dropped out of the Top 25 poll just when they were on the verge of moving from the Others Receiving Votes category into the Top 25 if they had won tonight and Friday. Losing to a team you were favored to defeat by 17 points won't get you much love from the voters. With Plattsburgh's loss to Middlebury Tuesday night, any hope they had of getting a few points also went by the boards. I'm pretty sure there will be no team from the East Region getting a mention in next week's poll. It will now take a lengthy run by someone to jump back into national consideration of any kind. I hope that can happen.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2015, 11:12:16 AM
Final from Tuesday's game:

Middlebury 63 Plattsburgh State 53

This game was supposed to feature two excellent offensive teams going at each other to see which one could come out on top. Some one forgot to tell the players that. I had predicted a 78-74 final score with the Cardinals winning and when I fired up my crystal ball to determine that outcome I was left wondering if I wasn't being a little too conservative in my forecast.

Sitting courtside with my friend from Middlebury, who was rooting his Panthers on, I said to him with 4 minutes gone by and the score 3-2, this final score of 78-74 that I predicted has no chance of happening now. And the next 16 minutes of action did nothing to change that statement. The 2 teams missed the first 10 shots in the game until Middlebury finally got on the board with 16:51 left in the half on a hoop and harm by Jake Brown. Plattsburgh countered with a pair of free throws by Reggie Williams on their next possession. The Panthers would grab the upper hand however and slowly built a lead that reached double figures at 19-9 with 8 minutes left in the half.

Both teams continued to have shooting issues... missing layups, throwing up air balls, taking ill advised shots. Plattsburgh seemed to have problems with Middlebury's length which made them rush their outside shots and had them forcing layups on their drives to the basket. Layups that were more often than not way off their mark. Middlebury seemed to victimize themselves with poor shot selections especially from long range and in the first half were only 2 of 10 with many of their attempts way off the mark. The Cardinals weren't much better hitting 3 of 13 from long range.

The Panthers' big man Matt Daley, missing in action for most of the year and slowly getting back into game shape entered the game for the first time with 7:45 left in the period. He immediately paid dividends as he made back to back buckets in 48 seconds to give Middlebury their largest lead of the half at 23-12. The Cardinals would fight back with 5 points from Ezra Hodgson and a 3 pointer by Eddie Correa with 19 seconds left to make the score 28-22 at the break.

The 2nd half started out on a good note by the Cardinals as they went inside to their big man Reggie Williams and then got a 3 pointer from Shamoy McIntosh to narrow the gap to 28-27. Through the first 5 minutes of the half it was back and forth action as McIntosh(9) and Williams(4) combined for all 13 of the Cardinals' 2nd half points. With 15:23 remaining the Panthers were in front 36-35. The next 6 minutes would determine the outcome of this game as the Panthers went on an 18 to 5 run fueled by a pair of trifectas from highly regarded freshman Nick Tarantino, 2 baskets from Dylan Sinnickson and another 2 buckets from Hunter Merryman. Suddenly there was under 10 minutes to play and the lead had ballooned to 14 points at 54-40. It would be the largest lead of the game.

The Cards had one last charge as Jordan Moody reeled off 6 straight points and a McIntosh drive to the hoop cut the lead back to a 2 possession game at 54-48 with 7:42 left to go. Plenty of time for things to happen. The things that happened though were Panther related as Dean Brierley scored inside and Merryman went to the line and made a pair to build the lead back to 10 points. 2 and a half minutes of no scoring by either side followed until Hodgson made a 3 pointer for Plattsburgh to cut the lead to 7. Jake brown was fouled, made 1 of 2, and when the Cards failed to score on their next possession, Sinnickson made them pay with a layup that boosted the lead back to 10. Plattsburgh countered with another basket by Hodgson and took a timeout with the 2 minute warning showing on the scoreboard. I believe the Cardinals' Coach Curle  told his team at that time to play defense and see if they could hit a couple of 3's to get it back to a 2 possession game. Unfortunately they didn't get the bounces as the Panthers missed, got the rebound, missed again, got the rebound and as Curle elected not to start the foul parade, they worked the clock and came away with the 10 point win as Sinnickson hit the last points of the game with 53 seconds left. Plattsburgh turned it over on their next possession and Middlebury ran the clock out.

As my friend from Middlebury stated and I agreed, this game was won by the defensive efforts of the Panthers. Last year Ed Correa was the main reason Plattsburgh  won in Pepin Gymnasium as he went 6x10 from 3 point range. This year he got a total of 2 shots in 31 minutes. He was 1x2 for a total of 3 points. last year he was the game's leading scorer with 22.  The Panthers simply weren't going to let him, beat them, again. The Cardinals have been held to under 71 points only one other time this year and that was a 60-57 win over Skidmore. To only score 53 points, well you have to tip your hat to the Panthers and in particular to Coach Brown. Always nice to visit with Coach Brown when he comes to Plattsburgh. Many fine memories of his playing days over here in the annual PBA Tournament every spring starting with the year he graduated from UVM.

The Panthers placed 4 players in double figures led by 13 points from Dylan Sinnickson (6x13 fg, 1x4 3's,). He also had 13 rebounds to notch his 7th double-double of the season. Freshman Nick Tarantino continues to impress as he scored 13 points (4x10 fg, 3x4 3's) and grabbed 6 rebounds. Jake Brown filled up the stat sheet with 10 points (4x8 fg, 0x1 3's, 2x3 ft) 7 rebounds, 7 assists and 4 steals. Hunter Merryman added 10 points (4x13 fg, 0x5 3's, 2x2 ft) and 7 rebounds.

The Panthers shot the ball better than the Cardinals did from the field, while the Cardinals managed 1 more 3 pointer. The rebounding battle was won by the Panthers with a slight 44-39 edge and the turnovers were fairly even with 16 for Plattsburgh to 15 for Middlebury.  Here are the shooting stats

Middlebury's:  FG: 26-64 40.6%   3 Point FG: 5-21 23.8%   FT: 6-7 85.7%

Plattsburgh's:  FG: 20-63 31.7%   3 Point FG: 6-19 31.6%   FT: 7-10 70.0%

Plattsburgh was led by Shamoy McIntosh who captured scoring honors for the game with 15 points (6x12 fg, 2x3 3's, 1x3 ft) and tied for the team lead in rebounds with 7. Ezra Hodgson had 10 points (4x13 fg, 1x3 3's, 1x1 ft). Reggie Williams had 8 points, 7 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

Middlebury improves to 9-0 and will be back in action on Friday night to open conference play as they travel to Bates for a 7:00 PM tipoff.

Plattsburgh falls to 6-3 (1-1 SUNYAC) and  will return to conference play this weekend as they travel to western NY to take on Fredonia State on Friday night at 5:30 PM and Buffalo State the next day at 2:00 PM. The Cardinals have now completed their non-conference play with a 5-2 record.
                           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2015, 11:40:40 AM
Final scores from Tuesdays games:

Brockport State 77 Buffalo State 70

Oswego State 96 Oneonta State 92

Geneseo 68 Fredonia 55
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 07, 2015, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2015, 11:40:40 AM
Final scores from Tuesdays games:

Brockport State 77 Buffalo State 70

Oswego State 96 Oneonta State 92

Geneseo 68 Fredonia 55

Sounds like a typical SUNYAC year, teams will eat each other up all year with the weekend back to backs and the travel.  The NP win over Cortland was mild shock. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: thebear on January 07, 2015, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2015, 11:40:40 AM
Final scores from Tuesdays games:

Brockport State 77 Buffalo State 70

Oswego State 96 Oneonta State 92

Geneseo 68 Fredonia 55

Sounds like a typical SUNYAC year, teams will eat each other up all year with the weekend back to backs and the travel.  The NP win over Cortland was mild shock.

"Mild shock".  When I arrived at the Sportsarena yesterday that was the first thing people talked about. Coupled with the reason why the New Paltz v Cortland game started at 2! I guess if you have been coaching in the Yac as long as Spanbauer then you can play whenever you want to play!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 06, 2015, 05:23:09 PM
So 2 questions Magic:

1) Why is the New Paltz/Cortland game at 2 PM on Tuesday??
2) Why all the tips at 5:30??  Are SUNY teams playing men's game first before the women's game this year??

Another reason why the switch is a bad thing and some are just starting to realize it now, is because the women don't finish till 9:30/10 p.m. at night. Some are left to get public transportation home (bus stations, wlak etc) and waiting at a bus stop (at least in Buffalo NY) at 10 p.m. is not something that many enjoy (would you want your daughter away at college and living off campus)That's directly from the mouths of 2 of the women ballers. Ditto for 7 pm on Saturdays.

The official attendance was 500 for the men's game vs Brockport this past Tuesday.. By the start of the women's game there were less than 100 people in the Sports arena at Buffalo State. The old format had a decent crowd for at least 25% of the game. The new format..... ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 03:37:50 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 06, 2015, 05:23:09 PM
So 2 questions Magic:

1) Why is the New Paltz/Cortland game at 2 PM on Tuesday??
2) Why all the tips at 5:30??  Are SUNY teams playing men's game first before the women's game this year??

Another reason why the switch is a bad thing and some are just starting to realize it now, is because the women don't finish till 9:30/10 p.m. at night. Some are left to get public transportation home (bus stations, wlak etc) and waiting at a bus stop (at least in Buffalo NY) at 10 p.m. is not something that many enjoy (would you want your daughter away at college and living off campus)That's directly from the mouths of 2 of the women ballers. Ditto for 7 pm on Saturdays.

The official attendance was 500 for the men's game vs Brockport this past Tuesday.. By the start of the women's game there were less than 100 people in the Sports arena at Buffalo State. The old format had a decent crowd for at least 25% of the game. The new format..... ::)

Good point, Bengalsrule. The wise men that made the decision to have the women play the second game probably never even gave the late hour that they finish much thought. I know I didn't. In Plattsburgh, the women usually hung around and watched the men play, so they weren't getting home much earlier anyway. Going home late in Plattsburgh though is a far different situation than Buffalo. Even if the women did hang around, they had the advantage of getting home earlier than if they played the 2nd game, since they didn't have to change or eat. And they always had the option of leaving at halftime of the men's game if they desired or not watching any of it.

Attendance at the women's games will continue to suffer. Plus as a player, it probably feels worse to see the place empty out as you're about to take the floor. At least when the women played first, the crowd got bigger as the game progressed, not smaller and in the case of a close game, there were more fans on hand to cheer the home team, than there are now at the end of a tight game, which just might lead to a win or two because of the extra support. I mean, teams do feed off the crowd!!       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 03:56:24 AM
Jan. 9  Full slate of games today as all 10 teams are in action as the conference season now heats up. Oswego at Cortland is the featured game of the night as the Lakers put their unblemished conference record on the line. Oneonta hosting Geneseo is another big game that could ultimately have a major impact on the final seeding of the SUNYAC tournament. All games tip off at 5:30 PM 

Plattsburgh State     at   Fredonia State        5:30 PM
   
Brockport State   at     New Paltz State        5:30 PM

Geneseo State   at     Oneonta State        5:30 PM

Potsdam State   at     Buffalo State        5:30 PM
   
Oswego State   at     Cortland State        5:30 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 09, 2015, 07:49:56 AM
Apparently the governor has closed the Thruway from Rochester to the PA State Line.  Hoping it clears by later today.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/snowstorm-forces-closure-132-mile-stretch-ny-thruway-28107528
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2015, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 09, 2015, 07:49:56 AM
Apparently the governor has closed the Thruway from Rochester to the PA State Line.  Hoping it clears by later today.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/snowstorm-forces-closure-132-mile-stretch-ny-thruway-28107528

Fear not thebear.  I will be sending a cab to pick up Hendricks, Estramonte and Adams for tonight's game to make sure that they get there on time. Tell them to look for a cab from "niagars falls tours". I've already paid the guy so he will make sure that they get to their uhhh "destination". Look for Ontario license plates ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
The Cardinals and Bears  arrived at their western NY destinations yesterday didn't they?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 05:13:56 PM
Time to check out the matchups for tonight.

Plattsburgh State     at   Fredonia State        5:30 PM

Plattsburgh looks to get back on the winning path and the Blue Devils seem to be just the right answer. Fredonia has yet to win a game against a D3 team however they did come real close to pulling off the upset of the year, nearly knocking off Oswego in Laker Hall. They lost that game by a 63-62 score as the Lakers scored with 21 seconds left to pull out the win. That was there high water mark however as they have lost their last 3 games by double digits margins. Plattsburgh has won 4 straight and 7 of the past 10 games in this series. The point spread for tonight's game has the Cardinals favored by 15 points but I think the margin could be larger. I see Plattsburgh winning by an 81-58 final score. 


Brockport State   at     New Paltz State        5:30 PM

Brockport is on a roll winning their last 3 games to even their record at 4-4. New Paltz is also on a roll winning back to back games for the 1st time all year. Something's gotta give and I think it will be the Hawks doing the giving. Brockport seems to be a different team with the addition of Patrick Modzelewski, who is leading the team in scoring with a 22.8 ppg average. Coach Dunne has been searching for the right combinations as 12 different players have started a game for the Golden Eagles. New Paltz with a big upset last week taking down unbeaten Cortland in Cortland. The team has to be feeling good about themselves after that outcome. The Golden Eagles have owned this series recently winning 7 of the last 8 games. I think they make it 8 out of 9 tonight. The odds makers have Brockport listed as a 4 point favorite. I think the Golden Eagles will  win this one by a 78-66 final.     

Geneseo State   at     Oneonta State        5:30 PM

Big game here as the Knights look to stay unbeaten in conference play and Oneonta looks to rebound from a tough overtime loss at Oswego on Tuesday night. Geneseo is favored to win this game by a slim 2 point margin as they try to make it 7 in a row over the Red Dragons. I'm going to take the underdog in this game and go with Oneonta to protect their home court. It should be a dandy of a game though and overtime isn't out of the question. I think the final score might be Oneonta 75 Geneseo 72.


Potsdam State   at     Buffalo State        5:30 PM

One of these teams will get off the schneid tonight in conference play. The Bengals seem to be the logical choice as the Bears have struggled mightily this year. The Bears have also struggled against the Bengals as they haven't beaten Buffalo State since 2007 and their losing streak has reached 12 games.  The oddsmakers have made Buff State a 10 point favorite but when the Bears play in the Queen City their average margin of defeat in the past 7 years is 16 points. Final score tonight...Bengals 84 Bears 68. 
   
Oswego State   at     Cortland State        5:30 PM

The game of the night has Oswego putting their undefeated conference record on the line in Cortland. The Red Dragons would love nothing better than to gain a measure of revenge against the team that beat them 3 times last year and ended their season by handing them back to back losses. Cortland can't take over first place with a win unless Geneseo and Brockport both lose tonight but the Red Dragons can tighten the race considerably with a victory. The point spread has the Red Dragons favored by 7 points and I think that the oddsmakers have this one wrong. I picked Oswego to finish ahead of Cortland in the conference standings and despite Cortland's early season success, I still think Oswego is the better team. I may be bucking the odds here as Cortland lost at home on Tuesday and they don't often lose back to back home games but I'll take the Lakers to win this one by a 70-67 final score.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 06:07:04 PM
Fredonia 31-Plattsburgh 27 at the half.

Fredonia's Kyree Hull leads all scorers with 13 points.

Ed Correa tops Plattsburgh with 9 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 06:10:45 PM
Oswego all over Cortland at the break by a score of 47-24.

Brian Sortino with 12, Rashawn Powell with 11, and Kyle Coveley with 9  to lead the Lakers.

Lamard Herron, Grequan Carter and Blair Estafa all have 6 points for Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 06:13:48 PM
Buffalo State doubling up Potsdam by a 42-21 score at the half.

Lovell Smith with 9 and Chris Cartwright with 8 top the Bengals. Jordan Glover and Rod Epps with 7 each.

Rishawd Hendricks with 8 and Joe Estramonte with 7 for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 06:18:29 PM
Geneseo out in front of Oneonta by double digits 37-25 at the half.

Devon Anderson with 9 points and James McKenna with 8 lead the Knights.

Lawrence Coleman tops Oneonta with 9 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 06:24:34 PM
Brockport with a narrow lead over New Paltz 34-31 at halftime.

Aaron White with 10 points to lead the Golden Eagles. No sign of Clifton Lylerly.

R.J. Rosa taking up where he left off on Tuesday night has 14 points and is keeping the Hawks in this game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 07:34:21 PM
Plattsburgh defeats Fredonia by a 67-58 final score.

Eddie Correa, Shamoy McIntosh and Reggie Williams all have 15 points to lead the Cardinals. McIntosh gets a double-double as he also leads the Cardinals with 11 rebounds. Williams has 8 rebounds. Kyle Richardson comes off the bench to score 6 points and grab 9 rebounds.

Sloppy game by both teams but especially Plattsburgh State. The Cardinals shot poorly from the line once again. They could have won this game by 20 points if they made their free throws.  They were 22x61 from the field (36.1%), 7x19 from 3 point land (36.8%) and 16x29 (55.2%).

Fredonia got 15 points from Kyree Hull and 14 points from Bayron Carter. Ian Helps helped out with 8 points and 10 rebounds.  (I couldn't resist)

Plattsburgh won the battle of the boards 45-37. The Blue Devils committed 19 turnovers to 14 for Plattsburgh.

The Cardinal improve to 7-3 overall and 2-1 in the YAC and will take on the Buffalo State tomorrow afternoon at 2 PM .

Fredonia falls to 1-7, 0-4 in the conference and will take on Potsdam tomorrow at 2 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2015, 09:21:49 PM
Final scores:

Oswego 81 Cortland 67

Oswego led this one from start to finish. Up by double digits with 7:24 left in the first half, the Lakers just kept piling it on. Ahead by 23 at the break they widened the margin to 28 with 7:50 remaining, and coasted to the finish.
Brian Sortino with 20 points led four Lakers in double figures. Walter Sampson had 18 points with 5 assists, Rashawn Powell had 13 points with 5 rebounds, and Kyle Covely had 12.

Blair Estafaa was the high man for the Red Dragons and the leading score in the game with 26 points. T.J. Hefele was the only other Cortland player in double figures.

Oswego remains in sole possession of 1st place with a 4-0 conference mark. The Lakers improve to 8-3 overall.
Cortland has now suffered its 2nd consecutive loss after opening up with 8 straight wins and drops to 2-2 in the YAC.

Both Cortland and Oswego are off tomorrow.


New Paltz 57 Brockport 55

New Paltz pulls up their 2nd upset in a week as they take advantage of a costly turnover by the Golden Eagle with 50 swconds left in the game. Port had the lead and the ball  but coughed it up leading by a 55-54 score. New Paltz missed a 3 point attempt but got the offensive board. They missed again from in close but grabbed another offensive rebound and this time the Hawks wound the clock down and got a three pointer by Andrew Seniuk to fall, with 5 seconds left to play. 

TJ Rosa was the top pointgetter for the night with 19 points for the Hawks. Taylor Sowah had 9 points and 8 rebounds.

Levi Pace was the high man for Brockport with 12 points and 8 rebounds. Aaron White and Patrick Modzelewski both had 10 points. Modzelewski also had 8 rebounds.

New Paltz improves to 3-1 in the YAC, 5-6 overall, and moves into 3rd place. They will take on Geneseo tomorrow at 2 PM.

Brockport falls to 4-5 overall and 1-1 in conference play. They will meet up with Oneonta tomorrow at 2 PM.


Geneseo 71 Oneonta 58

The Knights started slowly and trailed the Red Dragons for the first 5 minutes of the game, but a James McKenna 3 pointer gave them the lead at 10-9. The teams were tied at 12 when the Knights put some daylight between then with a 10-0 run and they were never headed. The lead reached 15 points at 33-18 before the Red Dragons cut it to 37-25 at he half. Geneseo was never threatened in the 2nd half as the Red Dragons failed to mount a significant comeback. Halfway through the period the lead had grown to 19 points and the Knights kept control throughout the remainder of the game.

James McKenna led the Knights with 18 points. Devon Anderson and Andy Drescher both had 12 points and 5 rebounds. Gordon Lyons almost missed his  automatic double-double but managed to get 10 points to go with his 16 rebounds.

Oneonta got 14 points and a team high 6 rebounds from Zach Mager. Jack Dignan had 13 points and Lawrence Coleman added 11.

Geneseo improved to 6-3 and remained the only undefeated team in the conference other than Oswego. The Knights are 2-0  in the YAC and will meet New Paltz tomorrow at 2 PM.

Oneonta falls to 5-6 overall and 2-2 in conference play as they are tied for the 5th playoff spot for the time being. They will face Brockport tomorrow at 2 PM.


Buffalo State 82 Potsdam 55

I thought Buffalo State would put a licking on the Bears bigger than the 7 point spread they were favored by. I had the final score at 84-68. I was pretty close with that one as the Bengals won by 27 points. Buffalo State opened the game on a 14-3 run after the first 5 minutes of play. That lead grew to 23-7 and then 42-21 at the break. The 2nd half was more of the same. The Bengals led by as much as 27 points on several occasions and that ended up as the final margin as well.

The entire starting lineup of the Bengals had double figures led by Jordan Glover's 16 points. Lovell Smith had 15 points and 5 rebounds. Rod Epps had identical numbers in both categories. Chris cartwright had 13 points and 7 assists, while Larry Rivers had 10 points.

The Bears got 18 points from Joe Estramonte, who captured scoring honors, along with 10 points and 6 rebounds from Rishawd Hendricks.

Buff State gets their first conference win and improves to 4-5 overall. They will meet up with Plattsburgh State at 2 PM tomorrow.

Potsdam falls to 1-8 overall and 0-3 in the YAC. They get a chance for their first conference win tomorrow when they take on the other winless conference team in Fredonia at 2 PM.

3-2 with my picks tonight. Didn't expect Brockport to lose to New Paltz and thought that Oneonta might pull off the upset of Geneseo.

                                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2015, 04:01:59 AM
Congratulations again to Reggie Williams from Plattsburgh State who, in addition to his SUNYAC Player of the Week honors, was chosen as the ECAC DIII Upstate Co-Player of the Week. Reggie was right back at work on Friday night helping the Cards defeat Fredonia with a 15 point, 8 rebound effort. Way to go Big Guy. 8-) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2015, 06:18:17 AM
Four games on tap today in the Conference.   

Plattsburgh State     at   Buffalo State   2:00 PM

This game should be an offensive explosion as both teams like to get up and down the court in a hurry. Bengals finally get a SUNYAC win and look to start a streak. Cardinals hope they can end the day in 2nd place as they face conference leader Oswego in their next game. The Cardinals won both matchups last year and have a slight 9-8 series lead over the past 8 years. The oddsmakers have the Cardinals favored by 8 points but I think the game will be closer than that. Too many times in this series a game has been decided by a basket at the buzzer. That could happen again today but I think the Cardinals will win a close one without the buzzer beater. Final score Plattsburgh 85 Buffalo State 80. 

 
Geneseo State  at   New Paltz State   2:00 PM

The  Knights (are they still called the Blue Knights anymore?) will try to keep pace with Oswego and keep their conference record unblemished. The Hawks are enjoying their lofty perch as the occupy 3rd place in the standings all by themselves. Back to back upsets of Cortland and Brockport may lead this team to higher ground. The point spread favors the Knights by just 7 points and with no common conference opponents it's hard for the oddsmakers to figure where this game might end up. I think that Geneseo's Gordon Lyons will have a huge game today and the Hawks will come back down to earth. Lyons has put up numbers that shows why he was selected as an All American.  Nine games...nine double-doubles. No one in the DIII universe does it better. Final score today Geneseo 78 New Paltz 65.

Brockport State  at  Oneonta State        2:00 PM

This game has the home team favored by a slim 2 points and the big question is will Clifton Lyerly miss this game since he didn't play in yesterday's contest. Both teams looking to get back on the winning track and the winner will have a leg up in the standings. With Lyerly in the lineup I'd probably pick the Golden Eagles to win this game but without his offense I'm taking Oneonta. Red Dragons 75  Brockport 71 
   
Potsdam State  at   Fredonia State        2:00 PM

Which team will escape the cellar by claiming their first YAC victory. Hard to pick the winner here but it's even harder to pick the visiting team when they haven't shown an ability to get a win anywhere (except the 1 on a neutral court). Fredonia listed as a 3 point favorite here but I think they win by more than that. Final score Fredonia 67 Potsdam 61     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2015, 02:46:20 PM
Plattsburgh 41 Buffalo State 34

The Cardinals broke loose from a 34-34 tie with 1:35 to go in the half to score 7 unanswered points. Plattsburgh got a layup from Jordan Moody at the 1;20 mark, followed by another layup by Reggie Williams after a miss on Buffalo State's possession. After the Bengals missed a 3pointer in their next tri down the floor, the Cardinals set up for one last shot before the buzzer. With 1 second left Eddie Correa let fly with a 3 point attempt and was fouled in the process. The shot didn't go in but Correa nailed all 3 free throws to give the Cards the 7 point lead at the break.

Correa leads all scorers with 12 points and Jordan Moody is close behind with 10. Reggie Williams has 6 points and 5 rebounds.

Lovell Smith has 10 points and 4 rebounds for the Bengals. Chris Cartwright is next with 7 points.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
Halftime scores

Brockport State 34 Oneonta 18

New Paltz 31 Geneseo 20

Fredonia 34 Potsdam 32
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2015, 04:22:15 PM
Final Scores:

Plattsburgh State 94 Buffalo State 89

Brockport State 67  Oneonta 56

Potsdam State 78  Fredonia State 73

New Paltz 75  Geneseo 62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2015, 05:45:48 PM
Congrats to magicman and his Cards today. A tough game from start to finish with  my beloved BENGALS missing critical free throws down the stretch ( 6 for 6 in the first half and 12 of 21 in the 2nd). I really thought we had this 1! Waiting the that "magic' phone call. Hoping the video quality was at least good. ;)

On to a neutral court make up game in Albany with Pine Manor (Tuesday).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 11, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
Magicman....surprised that you did not give a halftime score for your team.  Congrats to your Cardinals.  Sorry that Amherst lost in your pick-them contest on another board.  See that WASH U LOST TOO.  plus K for your support. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2015, 01:55:35 PM
Quote from: amh63 on January 11, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
Magicman....surprised that you did not give a halftime score for your team.  Congrats to your Cardinals.  Sorry that Amherst lost in your pick-them contest on another board.  See that WASH U LOST TOO.  plus K for your support. :)

amh63,

You didn't go back far enough when you read the posts. You don't think I would group my Cards in with the rest of the gang do you? My halftime score of the Cardinal-Buff St game was a post all by itself and was right before the one you read, but on the previous page.

Sure was surprised to see the ending of the Amherst game. I was flipping back and forth between games and the D3hoops scoreboard. Saw that the Lord Jeffs were up by a 67-61 score with 2:49 left to play and figured they would probably win the game. Tough loss for your team. Plus K back at you. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2015, 05:50:18 PM
Plattsburgh State 94 Buffalo State 89

Pretty good game between these two teams as they took turns making runs throughout the game. I said it would be a track meet and my predicted score of the Cards winning 85-80 wasn't too far off. It actually looked real good when the score was 80-75 with 2:50 left in the game but an abundance of fouls and 14 made free throws at the end bumped up the final score. My spread of 5 points was on the money though.

The Cardinals 7-0 run to end the first half gave them their largest lead of the period. It was a big turnaround after the opening salvo that the Bengals levied on Plattsburgh as they came out of the gate with a 13-2 run the left the visitors reeling and forcing Plattsburgh to take a time out. Whatever Coach Curle said must have sunk in as the Cardinals ripped off a 17-3 run of their own to take a 19-16 lead with 9:03 left in the half. The Cards went up by 6 points but the Bengals hung tough and finally caught them at 34 with 1:35 remaining. The Cards scored the final 7 points of the period helped by 3 free throws from Eddie Correa with just 1 second on the game clock when he was fouled attempting a 3 pointer.

Plattsburgh came out of the locker room and showed no signs of slowing down as they opened up their largest lead of the game at 51-38. Buff St. wasn't about to pack it in though and fired off a 17-4 burst that caught Plattsburgh at 55 all with 13 minutes left in the game. Chris Cartwright (8 points), Jordan Glover (5 points), and Larry Rivers (4 points) were the culprits responsible for those points and after Xavier Thomas put the Cards back in front with a driving layup, Glover buried another 3 pointer to give the Bengals their first lead since the 10 minute mark of the first period. Seconds later Glover hit another 3 ball to up their lead to 61-57. Plattsburgh's Shamoy McIntosh scored on a layup and then Kyle Richardson hit a 3 pointer on Plattsburgh's next possession to give the lead back to the visiting team. Richardson then stole the ball, scored on a dunk and the Cardinals were off and running once again. Eddie Correa drained another 3 pointer, Xavier Thomas had another jam and the Cards stretched the advantage to 70-61 with 6 minutes left. The Bengals cut the lead to 4, and Thomas responded with another dunk. Shortly after that Correa had back to back 3 pointers to restore the Cardinals' 9 point edge at 78-69 with 3:52 remaining. The Bengals wouldn't go away and managed to make it a 1 possession game with 55 seconds left. The Cardinals hit 5 of 6 free throws down the stretch though, to hold off the home team.

Plattsburgh had 5 guys in double figures led by Eddie Correa with a season high 23 points. Eddie was 7x11 from the field and hit 6 of 9 shots from long range. He was 3x3 from the line as well. His long range bombs came at opportune times and none were bigger than the 2 he hit inside the final five minutes to keep the Bengals at bay.  Shamoy McIntosh scored 16 points (4x11 fg, 0x1 3's, 8x11ft), had 5 rebounds, 3 assists, a block and a steal. 11 of his points and 11 from Correa  came in the 2nd half.
Reggie Williams had another double-double of 14 points (5x9 fg, 4x6 ft) and 10 rebounds. Jordan Moody came off the bench and scored 12 points (5x6 fg, 2x3 3's) and had 3 steals in 13 minutes of court time. Xavier Thomas also came off the bench with a big game for the Cards. The X man had 10 points (5x8 fg, 0x1 3's, 0x2 ft), 6 rebounds, a block and a steal in 15 minutes on the floor. Kyle Richardson didn't hit double figures but his 5 points scored, in a 24 second span,  lifted Plattsburgh from a 2 point deficit to a 3 point lead they never relinquished, was a pivotal moment in the game. The Bengals had all the momentum at that point having overcome a large Plattsburgh lead to go in front for the first time in the 2nd half. Kyle's 3 pointer, steal and dunk quieted the home crowd and restored some order for the Cardinals. Richardson ended up with 9 points (3x6 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x2 ft), 7 rebounds, 4 assists, a block and a steal in 20 minutes of playing time.

The Cardinals outshot the Bengals from the field and from the line. The Bengals were slightly better from long distance. Buff State had 41 rebounds to 37 for Plattsburgh and both teams had 16 turnovers. Both teams also had 17 assists.   
Here are the shooting stats:

Plattsburgh: FG 33-61  54.1%   3 Pointers 9-19    47.4%    FT 19-27  70.4%
Buffalo St.   FG  29-66  43.9%   3 Pointers 13-26  50%          FT 18-27  66.7%

Buffalo State placed 4 players in double figures. Jordan Glover captured the game's scoring honors with 25 points (7x15 fg, 7x11 3's, 4x4 ft). He also had 6 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal. Chris Cartwright was close behind with 24 points (8x20 fg, 5x13, 3's, 3x4 ft). The former All Conference performer added 7 rebounds, 4 assists and 5 steals. Lovell Smith just missed a double-double with 15 points (6x10 fg, 3x4 ft) and 9 rebounds. Rod Epps had 14 points (4x8 fg, 1x2 3's, 5x7 ft). Larry Rivers also just missed a double-double with 9 points and 10 rebounds.

Plattsburgh is now 8-3 on the season and 3-1 in conference play. They sit in 3rd place a half game behind surprising  New Paltz who has a 4-1 record. The Cardinals do own the tie breaker over the Hawks as they won the earlier matchup between the two. Plattsburgh is off until this coming weekend when some big changes could occur in the YAC standings. First place Oswego (4-0 SUNYAC) comes to the Burgh on Friday night to put their undefeated conference record on the line. Cortland follows the Lakers as they invade Memorial Hall on Saturday afternoon. The Red Dragons have went from 1st to 6th in the span of 3 days as the parity in the conference is evident perhaps more so this year than in recent memory.

Buffalo State drops to 4-6 overall (1-4 conf.) and find themselves in 9th place in the YAC. They are probably the best 9th place team I've ever seen. They get a breather this Tuesday as they take on first year program Pine Manor in a makeup of the canceled Coles Classic tournament that was wiped out by the Blizzard of the Century in November. They will play Pine Manor, since it's only 1 game instead of the original 2 game tourney, on a neutral court in Troy NY at Sage College. This is a travel concession to make it a little easier for Pine Manor. The Bengals then have the tough job of facing Brockport and then Geneseo on the road with the real possibility of falling to 1-6 in the conference. A road split next weekend is almost a necessary requirement to stay in the playoff race.                
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 01:04:11 PM
Three games on tap today in the SUNYAC:


Pine Manor    vs  Buffalo State        1:00 PM   @ Sage College (Troy, NY
   
Cortland State  at  Geneseo State        5:30 PM
   
Oswego State   at   Brockport State     5:30 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 01:19:58 PM
Pine Manor    vs  Buffalo State        1:00 PM   @ Sage College (Troy, NY)

This one should be a high scoring affair with the Bengals coming out on top. This is the first year that Pine Manor is fielding a men's basketball team.  The Gators have been competitive however, and if the Bengals take them lightly they could surprise. Earlier Western Connecticut found themselves down by 9 points late in the 2nd half before rallying to put the Gators away. They come into this contest with a 3-7 record but three of their losses have been by 4 points or less. They will play hard until the final buzzer as they have nothing to lose. The point spread favors the Bengals by a 12 point margin. Knowing how the Bengals like to keep the game interesting I don't think they will blow this team away. I see a final score of Buffalo State 95 Pine Manor 85. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
Buffalo State 47 Pine Manor 35  at the half

Bengals led by Lovell Smith with 10 of their first 14 points opened up a 16-6 lead at the 14:21 mark of the 1st period. The Gators would respond with a 14-3 run to take the lead 20-19 with 10 minutes to go. The teams traded leads for the next 5 minutes until the Bengals, down 32-31 would end the half on a 16-3 run of their own to take the double digit margin into the break. Rod Epps fueled that run with 8 points to lead the way.

Lovell Smith with 14 points at halftime to lead all scorers. Rod Epps with 12 points and 6 rebounds. Larry Rivers almost has a double-double in the 1st period with 9 points and 9 boards.

Chancie Williams with 10 points to lead the Gators.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 03:28:28 PM
Cortland State  at  Geneseo State        5:30 PM

Geneseo stumbled badly the last time out and they want to get back on the winning path today against the Red Dragons. Cortland is also hoping to rebound as they are streaking in a different direction with 2 straight losses following their 8-0 start. The teams have 2 common opponents as they both beat Fredonia and they both lost to New Paltz. The oddsmakers have basically rated this one a tossup but do give a slight 1 point edge to Cortland. I think it will also be a close game but I'm taking the Knights to win this one by a 73-67 final score
   
Oswego State   at   Brockport State     5:30 PM

Probably most of the other teams in the SUNYAC will be rooting for the Golden Eagles to hand the Lakers their first conference loss in this evening's contest. I know I certainly will. The Lakers lost 2 of the 3 games against the Eagles last year including the matchup in the SUNYAC tournament. Oswego has won 9 of the past 12 meetings with Brockport however and tonight's contest should be another closely contested affair. The point spread has the Golden Eagles favored by a single point and if Clifton Lyerly plays in tonight's game I might take the Eagles. He's missed the past 2 games and I've seen nothing to indicate his availability for tonight. I'm thinking that the Lakers win this one by a 75-71 final score, but I sure hope I'm wrong about that.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 04:07:08 PM
Buffalo State takes care of business against Pine Manor as they defeat the Gators by a 111-90 score. Not much defense playe in this game by either side. Up by 12 at the break the Bengals quickly opened up a 20 point lead early in the 2nd period. The lead fluctuated between 20 and 24 points  for most of the half until the Gators down 89-65 used a 10-1 spurt to cut the lead to 15 points. That was as close as they got as the Bengals eclipsed the century mark for the win.

The Gators had no one to match up with Lovell Smith as he scored 34 points on 14x17 shooting from the field. He was also 6x6 from the free throw line. Rod Epps had 25 points (8x14 fg,1x2 3's, 8x9 ft), 7 rebounds and 4 assists. Larry Rivers got his double-double with 15 points (5x11 fg, 5x7 ft) and 10 rebounds.

The Bengals improve to 5-6 on the season and will travel to Brockport for a Friday night contest at 5:30 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 04:17:45 PM
R.J. Rosa is selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. It is his 2nd selection of the season having won the award after the 3rd week of the season. He had a big week as the Hawks pulled off three big upsets in SUNYAC play on their way to a 3-0 week to move into 2nd place in the conference. Congatulations, RJ. !! 8-)

Here is the write up from the SUNYAC website:

R.J. Rosa, New Paltz

New Paltz senior guard/forward R.J. Rosa averaged 21.0 points per game in a 3-0 week for the Hawks, helping stretch the team's win streak to four. Rosa shot 48 percent (24-of-50) from the field on the week, including a 42.9 percent (9-of-21) clip from 3-point range, and he shot 85.7 percent (6-of-7) from the line. Rosa also averaged 4.3 steals per game, 3.3 rebounds per game, 1.7 assists per game and 0.3 blocks per game. On Tuesday, he scored a career-high 31 points and shot 7-of-9 from 3-point range, including a 6-of-6 mark in the second half, to help New Paltz hand SUNY Cortland its first loss of the season by a 78-73 final. Rosa then scored a game-high 19 points and added seven steals, four rebounds and two assists on Friday, helping the Hawks edge The College at Brockport, 57-55. Finally, on Saturday, he scored 13 points and chipped in three steals, two rebounds and two assists as well in New Paltz's 75-62 victory over SUNY Geneseo. Rosa currently leads the SUNYAC in steals per game (3.2) and ranks third in the conference in scoring (16.6 points per game).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 07:20:10 PM
Final Score:

Geneseo 77  Cortland 63


Oswego blows a late lead and Brockport ties it at 78 to send it to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
Oswego defeats Brockport in overtime  by a score of 91-85.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2015, 01:38:52 AM
Geneseo 77 Cortland 63

I called this game a Geneseo win 73-67. If I take the four extra points that the Knights scored and add them to Cortland's total it would be a perfect match.

A back and forth 1st half with several ties and 6 lead changes found the Knights up by two 34-32 at the break. The 2nd half started out the same way with the teams trading lead for the first 2 minutes of action but the Knights, down 38-36 with 17:45 to go, scored 15 consecutive points over the next 5 minutes. Cortland came up empty during that stretch, missing all 8 shots they took and with 12:49 left the score was 51-38. It was an explosion by Geneseo that the Red Dragons couldn't recover from and the closest they got the rest of the game was 9 points.

Gordon Lyons returned to normal tonight with his 10th double-double in 11 games. He had a game high 20 points (5x5fg, 10x14 ft) and was the leading rebounder with 11 rebounds. Andy Drescher had 17 points (6x14 fg, 3x10 3's, 2x2 ft), 3 rebounds and 3 assists. James McKenna came off the bench with a solid contribution scoring 10 points (3x7 fg, 0x1 3's, 4x4 ft), grabbing 7 rebounds, with 3 assists and 3 blocks. Connor Rogers also had 10 points (4x5 fg, 1x2 3's, 1x4 ft), 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Lamard Herron led the Red Dragons with 17 points (6x15 fg, 1x6 3's, 4x4 ft) and a team high 4 rebounds. Blair Estafa added 11 points (3x9 fg, 2x7 3's, 3x5 ft).

Geneseo outshot the Red Dragons 54% to 35% from the field, and 35% to 21% from long range. Cortland had a better percentage from the line 80% to 72% but only made 12 free throws to 21 for Geneseo. The Knights had a big lead in the  rebounding department  with a 41 to 26 margin. Cortland however took care of the ball much better as they only had 3 turnovers while Geneseo committed 13.

Geneseo is now 7-4 on the season and 3-1 in the SUNYAC. They move into a 3rd place tie with Plattsburgh and just a half game behind 4-1 New Paltz. The Knight will return to action on Friday when they host Fredonia at 5:30 PM. Buffalo State will then come to town on Saturday afternoon.

Cortland falls to 8-3 overall and 2-3 in the conference. The Red Dragons will look to stop the bleeding this Friday when they make their annual trip to the North Country. Their first stop is Potsdam State on Friday at 5:30 PM and then on to Plattsburgh for a Saturday matinee.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2015, 04:00:04 PM
An unusual Thursday afternoon SUNYAC game on tap for today matching NewPaltz State at Onenta State at 4:00 PM

This is a tale of two teams going in opposite directions. The Red Dragons, after winning 3 of 4 to close out 2014 have yet to win a game in the new year and are on a 4 game losing streak. The Hawks, who could barely win a game in 2014, going 2-5, have won their last 4 games and were underdogs in all 4 of them. Hard to say which recent win was the biggest surprise. I thought beating Cortland on the road when those Red Dragons were undefeated was pretty huge for the Hawks. Then the home win over Brockport followed by another home win over Geneseo really got my attention. I think the Hawks are just trying to make me look bad as I predicted them to lose all three of those games. Oneonta hasn't done me any favors either as I picked the Red Dragons to win their last two games which were in Oneonta and they laid an egg in both of them. Today's game is a must win for Oneonta though, as they can't afford to lose another home game, especially to a team that wasn't even picked to be in the playoffs. (although that may no longer be the case). The oddsmakers have Oneonta favored by a slight 3 point margin in today's contest. I think that the Hawks winning streak will come to an end today. Oneonta wins this one by an 81-75 final score.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
Oneonta State leads New Paltz by a 44-31 score at the half.

Mikey McElroy with a big first half for the Red Dragons as he scores 14 points in 15 minutes with a perfect 5x5 from the field and 4x4 from the line. Jackson Zuvic and Lawrence Coleman both have 7 points.

RJ Rosa leads the Hawks with 7 points. Zach Cone-Douglas and Kevin Roach have 6 points each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2015, 07:18:27 PM
Final score Oneonta 84 New Paltz 63.

The Red Dragons made this one look easy as they took command of the game in the latter part of the first period and never looked back. Up by 13 at the break they quickly stretched the lead to 20 less than 3 minutes into the 2nd half. Twice the Hawks would cut it to 12 but could never get it back to single digits. Up 63-51 with 12:14 to play the Red Dragons put this one away with a 15-4 run over the next 8 minutes to make it 78-55. In the final 12 minutes of the game New Paltz only scored 12 points.

I had this game as an 81-75 Oneonta win. I was close with the Oneonta part but the Hawks didn't bring their offense tonight.

Zach Mager had a big 2nd half for Oneonta as he poured in 14 points to give him a game high 19 markers (6x18 fg, 5x13 3's, 2x2 ft). Mikey McElroy had 16 points (6x7 fg, 4x4 ft) and 7 rebounds. Lawrence Coleman had 13 points (5x9 fg, 3x3 ft) and a game high 8 boards. Jackson Zuvic came off the bench and scored 12 points (5x8 fg, 2x4 3's), grabbed 7 rebounds, had 2 blocks and 1 assist in 17 minutes of court time. Point guard Frankie Kelly had 6 points on a pair of 3 pointers, 6 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 steals.

Zach Cone-Douglas was the only New Paltz player in double figures as he dropped in 15 points (4x8 fg, 2x5 3's, 5x6 ft). RJ Rosa and Kevin Roach each scored 9 points and Roach led the team with 5 rebounds.

Oneonta just killed the Hawks off the glass as they had twice as many rebounds as New Paltz. The final tally was 48 to 24 and 22 of Oneonta rebounds came on the offensive end leading to 23 2nd chance points. The Red Dragons also outshot the Hawks in all 3 categories, with the long ball being the major difference. Oneonta made 11 of 28 (39.3%) from downtown, while the Hawks only shot 6 of 22 (27.3%) Those 2 areas pretty much determined the outcome of the game. Both teams were a little sloppy with their ball handling as the Hawks committed 18 turnovers versus 20 for the Red Dragons.

Oneonta improves to 6-7 overall and 3-3 in the conference. They moved from a 6th place tie into sole possession of 5th place. They will be idle until January 23rd when they travel west to take on Buffalo State and then Fredonia the next day.

New Paltz also has a 6-7 overall record as their 4 game winning streak comes to an end. They are 4-2 in the YAC and fall out of sole occupancy of 2nd place into 4th place all by themselves. Like their travel partner, Oneonta, The Hawks are off until the following weekend when they make the westward trip to face the same two teams as the Red Dragons. 

There will be some big games this weekend that could bring wholesale changes to the conference standings. Here is the schedule of upcoming games:


Friday Jan. 16th

Oswego State      Plattsburgh State   5:30 PM  This one is the Game of the Week in the battle for First Place   
   
Fredonia State      Geneseo State     5:30 PM   An Oswego loss and a pair of Geneseo wins give the Knights a share of 1st   
   
Buffalo State      Brockport State      5:30 PM 
   
Cortland State      Potsdam State     5:30 PM


Saturday Jan. 17th

Cortland State      Plattsburgh State      2:00 PM    Another big game for the Cards. A win gives them 1st if they won on Fri.   
   
Buffalo State      Geneseo State            2:00 PM    Knights need this one as well, to land in 1st place at week's end. 
   
Fredonia State      Brockport State        2:00 PM 
   
Oswego State      Potsdam State          2:00 PM 
   


   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2015, 08:24:11 PM
Spent about an hour this afternoon before I left to watch the Cardinals play Oswego and posted my predictions of todays games. Once again they didn't show up on the SUNYAC board. Can't figure out whats going on. I was in a big hurry and didn't double check to see that they went through. I won't make that mistake again.

Here's what I had:

Plattsburgh 79 Oswego 75

Geneseo 77 Fredonia 59

Buffalo State 83 Brockport 80

Cortland 75 Potsdam 66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2015, 08:28:09 PM
Final Scores:

Plattsburgh 70 Oswego 66

Cortland 78 Potsdam 64

Geneseo 80 Fredonia 71

Buffalo State 85 Brockport 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2015, 11:50:59 AM
Plattsburgh State 70 Oswego State 66

Another closely contested game this evening in Memorial Hall between the Lakers and Cards. Plattsburgh jumped out to a quick 7-0 lead on a 3 pointer by Eddie Correa and a pair of inside buckets by Reggie Willians. Oswego came right back with the next 7 points on a jumper by Rashawn Powell, a layup by Kyle Covely and a 3 ball by Dustin Pond. That set the tone for an action filled half that saw the teams trading baskets and the Cardinals with the lead for almost the entire period. The Cards went back in front on another layup by Williams and another 3 pointer by Correa. Oswego would trail by a small margin over the next 5 minutes and finally caught the Cards again at the 10:16 mark when Pond drained his 2nd 3 pointer to knot the score at 22 each. 7 unanswered Cardinal points were followed by 5 straight Laker points as the teams continued to trade baskets until the 3:21 mark, with the score 35-31 Cardinals. Correa and Williams then ended the half much like they started it with 7 points between them, as the Cardinal's opened up a double digit lead, 42-31 at the break. The Cardinals went to Williams 8 times in the first period and 7 times he connected to lead all scores with 14 points.

The Lakers needed to come out of the locker room and cut into the Cardinal lead but instead it was the Cardinals who took the initiative and once again it was Williams with a hoop and harm on the Cards first possession. Thirty seconds later Williams again scored inside followed by Correa with another layup and Plattsburgh had raced to a commanding 49-33 lead. It would be the largest lead of the contest. The Cardinals have had problems playing with a double digit lead this year and seem to lack the killer instinct to put teams away. Friday night would be another example of just how badly that fact hits home. Over 4 minutes would go by before the Cardinals would score another point. Oswego cut the lead to 10 and after 2 free throws by Plattsburgh's Kyle Richardson made it 51-39, Kyle Coveley swished a 3 to cut the lead back to single digits. Walter Sampson's layup reduced it to 7 points but the Cards' Jordan Moody buried a three ball to build the lead back to 10. What should have been a momentum stopper only seemed to bring out the best in the Lakers as Alex Rawa, Sampson and then Rawa again, hit back to back to back 3 pointers and suddenly it was 54-53 and the Cardinals' 16 point lead was down to 1 and there was 11 minutes left in the game. Reggie Williams (who else) to the rescue, as the big guy once again, was fouled as he made another layup. He made the free throw to extend the lead to 4 points, but the Lakers countered with back to back trips to the line and with 8:39 to play the Oswego comeback was complete as the teams were tied at 57 each. The Cards made 1 of 2 free throws on their next possession and after both teams came up empty on their next two trips down the floor, Alex Rawa buried his 3rd three pointer to give the Lakers a 60-58 lead. The teams traded jumpers, Sampson for the Lakers and Ezra Hodgson for the Cards, before Williams on another move in the paint evened the score at 62. Oswego misfired on their possession, but Plattsburgh's Shamoy McIntosh got mugged and a no call gave the ball back to the Lakers. Again they failed to convert, but got the offensive rebound and called timeout. The Lakers chose to hoist another 3 point attempt that was off the mark and rebounded by Plattsburgh. This time down the court the Cardinals went to Jordan Moody, who made a baseline drive to the hoop that ended with a wraparound layup and the lead.  A lead they wouldn't surrender. The Lakers went to the line with 3:09 left and made 1 of 2 to trail by a point. The teams came up empty on their next possessions and then the Cards' Moody was fouled going after an offensive rebound with 2:12 left.
He made 1 of 2 to make the score 65-63. Oswego once again opted for the long ball, but Xavier Thomas, as he has done so often, showed off his athleticism by running at the shooter and jumping sky high to get a piece of the ball which settled into the hands of Moody. The Cardinals came down and Correa nailed his 3rd triple of the night to give the Cardinals a slight comfort zone with a 5 point 68-63 edge. It lasted 17 seconds as Ian Schupp drained a 3 with 52 ticks left. Plattsburgh took a time out with 46 seconds on the clock and Moody misfired on a 3 ball with 31 seconds to go. The Lakers elected to play on and Alex Rawa went for the lead from downtown with 15 seconds left. Fortunately for the Cardinals he came up short. The same combination of Williams and Correa ended the game making the plays just as they started both halves. Williams rebounded the miss, passed it to Correa, who was fouled and made both free throws to close out Oswego.

Reggie Williams had new career highs tonight as he scored a game high 24 points (11x15 fg, 2x2 ft) and a game high 14 rebounds. The 14 rebounds was also a career high for Reggie and was his 5th double-double of the season. Reggie also added 3 blocks, 2 assists and a steal. The Lakers had no answer for the big guy tonight and it was obvious from the outset that the Cardinals intended to go to him often.
Eddie Correa also had a big night for Plattsburgh with 16 points (4x8 fg, 3x6 3's, 5x6 ft), 4 rebounds and 2 assists. Most of his scoring took place at crucial stages of the game and none were bigger that the final 5 points the Cardinals scored.
Jordan Moody came off the bench and delivered another solid performance with 8 points and 5 rebounds in 15 minutes on the court. Shamoy McIntosh added 6 rebounds, 5 points and 4 assists while Ezra Hodgson had 6 points 4 rebonds and 2 assists.

Plattsburgh outshot Oswego from the field and from the line, with the Lakers holding a decided edge from long distance. The Card won the battle of the boards by a 46-32 margin and turnovers were close with Plattsburgh committing 13 to 11 for Oswego. 

Plattsburgh shooting stats : Field Goals: 26-59  44.1%     3 Pointers: 4-18  22.2%   Free Throws: 14-20  70.0 %
Oswego  shooting stats:      Field Goals  25-58  43.1%     3 Pointers: 9-24  37.5%   Free Throws:  7-15  46.7%

Oswego was led by Walter Sampson with 14 points (5x9 fg, 1x1 3's, 3x8 ft) 6 assists and 3 rebounds. Ian Schupp came off the bench and hit some big shots to total 12 points (4x11 fg, 2x43's, 2x2ft). Kyle Coveley had 11 points (4x10 fg, 1x5 3's, 2x2ft) and Fustin Pond had 10 (4x10 fg, 2x6 3's, 0x2 ft). Alex Rawa just missed a double-double with 9 points (3x7 fg, 3x7 3's, 0x1 ft) and a team leading 11 rebounds. Surprising to see point guard Brian Sortino with only 4 minutes of playing time in the second half. Last year at Oswego he gave the Cardinals fits with 24 points. Last night he wasn't a factor with only 2 points as he was taken out after 4 minutes of the 2nd half and didn't return. Unsure if an injury caused that, but didn't see anything happen to him. Hope he's ok and will look for him in the Potsdam game today.

Plattsburgh improves to 9-3 overall and 4-1 in the conference. They will be a half game behind Oswego because the Lakers have played 1 more game than Plattsburgh. Today's win does give Plattsburgh, at least temporarily, the tiebreaker over Oswego. Plattsburgh will take on Cortland today at 2 PM.

Oswego drops to 9-4 overall and 5-1 in the YAC. They will travel over to Potsdam to face the Bears at 2 PM.
       
                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2015, 12:39:55 PM
Geneseo 80 Fredonia 71

Knights got a bit of a scare thrown at them as the Blue Devils managed to win the 1st half by a score of 36-33. Gordon Lyons and company righted the ship and pulled away in the 2nd period for the win. Lyons with another double-double his 11th in 12 games. He had 21 points 13 rebounds 3 assists, a steal and a block. James McKenna had 16 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and a block. Andy Drescher and Kevin Crockett both had 12 points. Nick Fessenden tossed in 10 points.

Fredonia got 20 points from Robert Lyles and 17 points from Bayron Carter.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2015, 12:58:00 PM
Not much time today but here are some quick picks.

Cortland State      Plattsburgh State      2:00 PM


Red Dragons ended their losing streak yesterday at Potsdam. Today they start another one. Cardinals favored by 5 points but I  think they win by more than that. Plattsburgh 82 Cortland 69.       
   
Buffalo State      Geneseo State            2:00 PM

I told a certain Buffalo State backer that the Bengals had to go 1-1 on their road trip this weekend. Yesterday they got the front end of that 1-1. Today they get the back end. Geneseo is favored by 6 points. I think it will be a little closer. Geneseo wins by a 77-74 final score     
   
Fredonia State      Brockport State        2:00 PM

Brockport got Clifton Lyerly back yesterday. Today they get their mojo back. It helps that it's Fredonia coming to town. Golden Eagles are 12 point favorites. That might be a bit of a stretch. Brockport 75 Fredonia 65.   
   
Oswego State      Potsdam State          2:00 PM

Lakers need a win to stay in first place. Bears will see to it they get one. I wish it wasn't so. Oswego favored by 13 points. The Bears will be hard pressed to keep it that close. Oswego 79 Potsdam 63.   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2015, 04:34:33 PM
Final Scores:

Cortland State 68 Plattsburgh State 65   In Overtime

Buffalo State 87 Geneseo State 86

Oswego State 70  Potsdam State 59

Brockport State 84  Fredonia State 73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 17, 2015, 12:58:00 PM

   
Buffalo State      Geneseo State            2:00 PM

I told a certain Buffalo State backer that the Bengals had to go 1-1 on their road trip this weekend. Yesterday they got the front end of that 1-1. Today they get the back end. Geneseo is favored by 6 points. I think it will be a little closer. Geneseo wins by a 77-74 final score     


That "certain Buffalo State backer" figured that 2-0 would be better than 1-1. Thanks to Chris Thompson's free throw with.4 seconds left (after he stole the inbounds pass from Geneseo with 3.6 seconds left and got foiled going to the basket, in a tie game) we didnt have to settle for a  split on the road. In fact with a neutral site victory Tuesday in Albany vs Pine Manor....it's been an excellent week!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2015, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 17, 2015, 12:58:00 PM

   
Buffalo State      Geneseo State            2:00 PM

I told a certain Buffalo State backer that the Bengals had to go 1-1 on their road trip this weekend. Yesterday they got the front end of that 1-1. Today they get the back end. Geneseo is favored by 6 points. I think it will be a little closer. Geneseo wins by a 77-74 final score     


That "certain Buffalo State backer" figured that 2-0 would be better than 1-1. Thanks to Chris Thompson's free throw with.4 seconds left (after he stole the inbounds pass from Geneseo with 3.6 seconds left and got foiled going to the basket, in a tie game) we didnt have to settle for a  split on the road. In fact with a neutral site victory Tuesday in Albany vs Pine Manor....it's been an excellent week!

Yes it has been a good week for Bengal Fans. Congrats to the Bengals. Big game from Rod Epps and Chris Thompson. 30 points and 27 points respectively I believe. I wanted to pick the Bengals in the worst way but was afraid if I did you'd lose... so I used the old reverse logic theory and picked you to lose hoping that'd you'd win.  It worked like a charm. If only I had tried to do the same for my Cardinals. I don't know if we could play any worse than we did. Sad thing is we started out like a house on fire. At one point in the first half the score was Plattsburgh 25 Cortland 9. 21 of those points came on seven 3 pointers from 4 different shooters. There was 7:42 left in the half at the time. The  Cardinals managed to score 1 more basket...another 3 pointer to end up with a whopping 28 points at the break. 3 measly points in nearly 8 minutes. Futility at its finest. I knew we were in trouble at that point and was apprehensive at what the 2nd half would bring. Turns out it was more of the same as Plattsburgh could only manage to score 37 points in the 2nd half and overtime period combined. It was the old "live by the three (8x13 in the first half)...die by the three" (1x11 in the 2nd half and OT). Time to go back to the drawing board and figure some things out...In a hurry. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
I'm predicting that the regular season champ will hav at least 4 loses.  Quote me.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2015, 05:08:32 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
I'm predicting that the regular season champ will hav at least 4 loses.  Quote me.

Obviously you weren't looking at the standings when you made that prediction, since my Cardinals only have 2 losses. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2015, 05:42:13 AM
Four games on tap for today all starting at 5:30.

Potsdam State   at     Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM


Geneseo State   at     Cortland State        5:30 PM


Brockport State    at    Oswego State        5:30 PM


   
Buffalo State    at    Fredonia State        5:30 PM
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2015, 07:51:36 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 20, 2015, 05:08:32 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
I'm predicting that the regular season champ will hav at least 4 loses.  Quote me.

Obviously you weren't looking at the standings when you made that prediction, since my Cardinals only have 2 losses. ;D

>:( :( :o 8-) ??? :P :P :-[

You are killing me there Magic 1!  If things keep going the way they are going I may have to make that ride up north next week. More later after finish my breakfast!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2015, 01:10:08 PM

Men's Basketball Player of the Week

Epps
Roderick Epps, Buffalo State
Uniondale, NY / Uniondale
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Averaged 23.3 points and added 11 rebounds, eight assists and four steals. Epps netted 25 points in a win over Pine Manor on Tuesday, then scored 15 in a victory at Brockport on Friday, and then scored a season-high 30 points to go with four assists and two steals in a dramatic 87-86 win at Geneseo on Saturday. Epps moved into seventh in school history with 1,306 career points.

   I couldn't be happier for this kid. Rod has worked on his game and created an all around game that is on par with anyone in the 'Yac. (IMHO). 2nd in ft%, 4th in scoring, 10th in FG % (top 9 are bigs) and 12 in 3 ptrs made per game. You will also see his name in the rebounding and steals category of 'Yac stats!! He and Jordan Glover ( SUNYAC's "Mr Consistent" ...thats right magicman, I'm creating a new 'Yac award) who is 4th in the 'Yac in steals, 10 in 3 ptrs per game and 12th in assists and Chris Cartwright who is  scoring 15 pts a game (would be good for 9th in SUNYAC if he was recognized),  4.5 assists per game ( would be good for 3rd in 'Yac) and 2.7  3 ptrs per game (also good for 3rd in the 'Yac). For some reason Cartwright's numbers have not been listed by SUNYAC. And dont tell me its because he has only played 8 games ( I know that's what you were thinking Magicman ::)). Max Pierce -Fredonia and Greg Torchon - Potsdam have only played 8 games but you can find their stats listed on the SUNYAC "leaders " board. I guess they just have missed Chris. ??? Understandable  :-X


   I can't wait till "Mr. Consistent" Lovell Smith rejoins the line up this week (WHO 6 MINS INTO THE GAME, got hit in the face/eye vs Geneseo Saturday and had to be taken to the hospital by ambulance). Oh and there was NO FOUL CALLED when hit got hit although play had to be stopped. Add a Chris Thompson, who this past Saturday went toe to toe with Pre - Season All American Gordon Lyons and stood tall ( 25 pts on 10/13 shooting and 9 boards vs Lyons 18 pts/17 rebs), and Larry Rivers 11 pts 7.5 boards over the past 4 games and the 3rd most effective pt gd in the 'Yac, Derrick Fernandez, 4.1 assists per game and a 1.8 turnover/assist ratio,  to the mix and the BENGALS future looks bright.

6-2 since Xmas, and Cartwright joining the BENGALS (thank you Santa), makes me as optimistic as can be. Fredonia is ahead tonight and they always get up for my beloved BENGALS. No predictions (that's the magic 1's category) however I will predict that the boys will play hard!!

Go BENGALS!!!!


I LOVE THOSE GUYS!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2015, 04:36:42 PM
Let's see what the crystal ball makes of the games on tap for today.

Potsdam State  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM

The battle for Northern New York has been a one sided affair for the past 4 years as the Cardinals are 7-1 in those games.   Plattsburgh holds a 10-3 edge dating back to the 2006-07 season. Plattsburgh is coming off a Jekyll and Hyde weekend, after beating conference leader Oswego on Friday and dropping an overtime decision to 6th place (at the time) Cortland on Saturday. Potsdam continues to struggle and will be hard pressed to stay in this game tonight. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals an 18 point home favorite and it's hard to argue against that margin. The Bears have lost 3 of their last 4 road games by 27 points to Buff State, 36 points to John Carroll, and 19 points to Hilbert. Only a win at Fredonia, who is winless against D3 teams, breaks up that stretch of futility. Tonight Coach Tom Curle goes for his 205th win as the coach of Plattsburgh State, which would make him the all time leader in wins at Plattsburgh State, surpassing the 204 wins that Joe Jastrube earned from 1953 through 1969.  Cardinals' senior guard Shamoy McIntosh looks to become the 13th Plattsburgh State player to score 1000 points for his career. He needs 12 points to do so.  I think the Cardinals win this one 83-62 and Coach Curle gets that record breaking win.         


Geneseo State   at     Cortland State        5:30 PM   Co-featured game of the night

Cortland coming off a big win at Plattsburgh and the Knights coming off a disappointing home loss to Buffalo State. The oddsmakers give the edge to the Red Dragons in this matchup by a 3 point margin. Knights have the better inside game while Cortland has the better guard play. Gordon Lyons can only do so much. I'll take the Red Dragons in this one by a 71-66 final.



Brockport State    at    Oswego State        5:30 PM       Co-featured game of the night

Hard to predict a winner in this one. Brockport lost an overtime decision to the Lakers just a week ago. Lakers gave up a 9 point lead with under 2 minutes to play and the game went to bonus basketball where Oswego finally secured the victory. Point spread has the Lakers favored by 5 points in this one.  Brockport was missing starter Clifton Lyerly in that game. He's back and I'm taking the Golden Eagles, in a revenge motivated return matchup, to score a mild upset here. Plus I need the Lakers to suffer another loss and will be rooting hard for Brockport. Golden Eagles 78 Oswego 75.



Buffalo State    at    Fredonia State        5:30 PM

Bengals coming off a 2 win road weekend and have to be feeling good about themselves. A win tonight could put them back into a playoff position as they have rebounded from an 0-3 YAC start to improve to 3-4. Fredonia shouldn't be much of an obstacle for the Bengals to improve to .500 in the conference. Oddsmakers have installed them as 11 point favorites but I think they win by a bigger margin than that.  Final score should be something like Buffalo St. 85 Fredonia 67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
Final scores from tonight's games.

Plattsburgh State 83 Potsdam state 60    I just missed this one with my prediction of a Plattsburgh 83-62 win.

Cortland State 70 Geneseo State 60    I had  Cortland winning by a 71-66 score so I wasn't too far off.

Buffalo State 78  Fredonia state 61    My guess had the Bengals winning by an 85-67 margin. Both teams a bit shy of my score.

Oswego State 66 Brockport State 51   I was hoping for the upset here with my forecast of a 78-75 Brockport victory, but Oswego would have none of that. The Lakers turned a halftime deadlock into a solid win by outscoring the Eagles 39-24 in the 2nd half.                                                                                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2015, 05:44:17 AM
Plattsburgh State 83    Potsdam State 60

This game was competitive for most of the first half and the Bears Rishawd Hendricks hit a jumper with 10:11 left in the period to tie the score at 13 apiece. Xavier Thomas then went to work for the Cardinals as he had a monster dunk, to give Plattsburgh a lead they would never surrender. The Cardinals followed that dunk by Thomas with a basket that was tipped in by a Potsdam player when several hands were reaching for a rebound of a missed Plattsburgh field goal attempt. Kind of like an "own goal" in soccer but called a "wrong basket" in basketball. I thought the basket would be credited to Reggie Williams as he was the closest Cardinal player to the play and was one of the arms reaching for the rebound but the basket was credited to the "Team". Thomas scored again for Plattsburgh on their next trip down the court to make it a 6 point lead and after Tom Graf scored for the Bears, Thomas buried a 3 pointer to bump the lead to 7 points. Kyle Richardson then nailed another 3 pointer a minute later to give the Cardinals their first double digit lead of the game with 7:29 to play in the half. Richardson would score on a fastbreak a short time later to give Plattsburgh their largest lead of the opening stanza at 32-18. The Bears managed to close the gap to a 10 point deficit of 40-30 at the break.

Whatever hopes the Bears had of springing an upset in this game quickly disappeared as the 2nd half started with the Cardinals raining 3 pointers down on the Bears. Ezra Hodgson opened the period with a deep 3 ball and after the Bears Zac Adams scored on a nice inside move, Hodgson came down and buried another triple. The Bears misfired on their next possession and Eddie Correa nailed a three pointer, his third of the night, and the Cards had opened up a 17 point lead. Two free throws by Shamoy McIntosh, a layup by Reggie Williams along with 2 more free throws by Jordan Moody and Hodgson gave the Cards a 15-2 run to open the period. The lead had grown from 10 to 23 and the party to celebrate Coach Tom Curle's 205th win as the Cardinals' coach had begun. Curle, in his 11th season, has now amassed more wins than anyone else in the history of Plattsburgh State Men's basketball. With 10 minutes to go in the game Xavier Thomas converted an old fashioned 3 point play to extend the lead to 27 points. Curle began substituting freely at that point as 12 different players broke into the scoring column.

The only downer on the night for Plattsburgh was the fact that Shamoy McIntosh, needing 12 points to total 1000 career points, was injured early in the 2nd half and had to sit out the remainder of the game. He had scored 6 points at the time and the home fans were denied the pleasure of seeing him hit that milestone. I spoke with Shamoy shortly after he left the game. He assured me that he was fine and would be able to play this weekend. The Cardinals hit the road for games at Geneseo, then Brockport and his 1000th point will be scored away from home.

Xavier Thomas was the game's high scorer tonight as he has 14 points (5x7 fg, 2x3 3's, 2x3 ft) and 5 rebounds in just 11 minutes of court time. Ezra Hodgson scored 12 points (3x6 fg, 2x3 3's, 4x5 ft) and 3 rebounds. Eddie Correa had 3 long balls for a total 9 points and added 5 rebounds. Jordan Moody also had 2 triples for a total of 8 points. Jordan also had 5 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals as he continues to be one of the best players in the conference at coming off the bench as the 6th man. Big man Reggie Williams, who has been on quite a tear recently, was fairly quiet tonight as the team didn't give him many chances. He had 6 points, a game high 8 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and a steal for a good all around evening in 25 minutes on the floor. Kyle Richardson also had a nice stat line of 6 points, 3 rebounds, 3 steals, an assist and a block.  Point Guard Mike Mitchell didn't score tonight but did have 6 assists with no turnovers. Freshmen Magic Grigg and Tyler Coppin-Carter both scored their first points in a Cardinal uniform. Grigg had 6 points on 3x3 shooting along with 4 rebounds and Coppin-Carter had 4 points.

Plattsburgh outshot the Bears from the field 43.8% (28x64) to 32,2% (19x59) and from long range 40.7% (11x27) to 25.0% (6x24). Potsdam was better from the line hitting 16x18 for 88.9% to 14x22 (63.6%) for Plattsburgh. The Cardinals dominated the glass with 45 rebounds to 33 for Potsdam and both teams had 13 turnovers.

Potsdam was led by Zac Adams with 13 points (4x11 fg, 1x3 3's, 4x4 ft) and a team high 5 rebounds. Kyle Santoro had 9 points all on 9x10 shooting from the free throw line. He added 4 rebounds 3 assists and a steal. Tariq McIntyre added 6 points, 2 assists, a block and tied Adams with 5 rebounds. Joe Estramonte had 6 points, 3 rebounds, an assist and a steal.

Plattsburgh improves to 10-4 overall and 5-2 in conference play. They take over sole possession of 2nd place and will try and solidify that position as they travel to Geneseo on Friday at 5:30 and Brockport on Saturday at 2 PM.

Potsdam falls to 2-11 overall and 1-6 in the YAC. They will make the same trip west as the Cardinals this weekend.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PM
Magicman....just to alert you that I saw your Cardinals on my flatscreen TV the other night....in HD no less.   Read your post on the CAC board....something wrt to a WBB player up in Maine???  Agreed that the player is good.....but promo on the MBB board! ;D
Does Coach Curle aware of your efforts? :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2015, 01:01:34 AM
Quote from: amh63 on January 22, 2015, 08:00:11 PM
Magicman....just to alert you that I saw your Cardinals on my flatscreen TV the other night....in HD no less.   Read your post on the CAC board....something wrt to a WBB player up in Maine???  Agreed that the player is good.....but promo on the MBB board! ;D
Does Coach Curle aware of your efforts? :)

I saw where your sons showed up to help the "old man" hook up his computer to his big flat screen TV. Now if you could only send them to Plattsburgh to do the same for me.  :D

We were wondering where you have been for the past week. ??? I've been scrambling trying to find your phone number which I seem to have misplaced. I was going to call Mrs. amh63 and make sure you were alright. Vandy, grabtherim, and myself were afraid something had happened to you. It's certainly not like you to disappear for 7 days during the height of the hoops season. I must reprimand you for taking a break from the boards without first informing us of your intent to do so. You gave us a scare. Please don't do that again!! OK reprimand over.....please PM me your phone number as I'm not sure where I've placed the slip of paper I had written it down on.

You watched my Cardinals against Potsdam on Tuesday night I'm assuming. That was Coach Curle's big night. And yes I told him I'm bragging about his daughter's exploits on the Women's NESCAC board. Only a couple of times a year though. The next two years should be very good ones for her as she keeps getting better and better.

I was watching your LJ's play Williams on Wednesday night. Williams led for most of the game and at one point it looked pretty bleak for Amherst, when the Ephs were up 60-51 with 9:20 left to play. Reid Berman entered the game at that point and was the catalyst for a Lord Jeff comeback that forced the overtime stanza. And then Connor Green looked like the player that made me choose him as my first round pick in last year's NCAA fantasy league. Nice win for Amherst  and if this season turns out to be a successful one for them, one could point to this game against Williams as the reason why.
Good luck the rest of the year....and don't forget to PM me that phone number. ;D       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
Four games on the slate this evening in the YAC all at 5:30 PM


Plattsburgh State      Geneseo State      5:30 PM

This one is the Game of the Week as both teams will battle for league supremacy and it features two of the best big men in the conference. Plattsburgh sits all alone in 2nd place with a 5-2 conference record and would like nothing better then to win a pair of road games this weekend and move to 7-2 and just a half game behind 7-1 Oswego, who is idle this weekend. Geneseo with a 4-3 conference mark could vault from 5th place into 2nd place with a pair of wins this weekend.

The Battle of the Big Men features the Cardinals' Reggie Williams and the Knights' Gordon Lyons who, between them, lead the SUNYAC in a number of categories. Lyons, of course, has received national recognition with his preseason selection to the D3hoops All American 2nd team. He has certainly lived up to those expectations.

Lyons is the NCAA national leader in rebounding with 13.5 rpg. (For some reason the SUNYSC website shows him with 174 rebounds in 13 games and the NCAA website has him with 175. Neither website includes the game that Geneseo played against Roberts Wesleyan in Lyons stats.) He is listed as 2nd in the country in double doubles by the NCAA with 12 of them in 13 games. The guy in 1st place has 14 in 15 games. Lyons actually has 13 in 14 games if they counted the RW game and I won't be surprised if he has 14 in 15 games when he actually plays that many. Lyons also leads the conference in scoring with a 21.0 ppg average. He is also the leader in minutes played per game with an average of 36.8 and 2nd in field goal percentage at 59.2%.

Reggie Williams continues to improve as the season progresses. Plattsburgh has more scoring options than the Knights do and consequently Williams doesn't touch the ball as much as Lyons does for his team. When Williams does get his mitts on the ball, however, it goes in the hoop to the tune of 60.6 %, tops in the YAC. The biggest difference between Williams and Lyons in the number of times Lyons has gone to the free throw line. Lyons has made 93 of 131 free throws. Williams has only attempted 35 free throws all year, making 20 of them. Williams leads the conference in blocked shots with 29 so far in 14 games. He is also 5th in rebounding with 8.6 per game and is leading the Cardinals in scoring with 13.3 ppg.

This will be a closely contested game as each team won last year's matchup on their home court before Plattsburgh won the rubber match in Brockport in the conference semifinals. Both teams went to the Big Dance last year with at large bids and have high hopes of returning again this year. They will both need to have a big finish to make it if they don't win the automatic conference bid. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a slight 3 point road favorite in this game and I'm not going to go against the oddsmakers. I think the Cardinals  can pull this one off in the Knights Alumni Fieldhouse. I'm taking Plattsburgh to win by a 77-73 final score.
     
   
New Paltz State      Fredonia State      5:30 PM

The Hawks will be favored to get back on the winning track in tonight's contest against the last place Blue Devils. Still sitting in 3rd place despite their loss last week to Oneonta the Hawks continue to be the surprise of the conference so far. They are favored by 5 points tonight and Fredonia will look to pull off the upset. I'm not going with the Blue Devils, however since they still need to prove to me they can beat a D3 team. Hawks can't look ahead to Buff State tomorrow, which will be a very telling game, on how their (and Buffalo State's) season turns out. New Paltz wins by a 68-60 final score.

 
   
Potsdam State      Brockport State      5:30 PM

Brockport needs a win tonight to stay in contact with a playoff position. The Bears seem to be the right medicine. The point spread has Brockport favored by a double digit 11 point margin. I don't think it will be that close. Golden Eagles win this one by a 78-63 final. 
   
Oneonta State      Buffalo State      5:30 PM

The Bengals were ousted from conference play last year and it was a loss to Oneonta in early February that gave the Red Dragons the 6th and final playoff spot over the Bengals. Revenge has to be on the minds of the Buffalo State players. The point spread has the Bengals favored by a slim 3 points. It should be a high scoring affair and I think that Buffalo State's resurgence since the return of Chris Cartwright back in December will continue. Bengals take this one 86-81.   
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2015, 06:31:47 PM
Halftime score

Plattsburgh State 30 Geneseo State 25

Shamoy McIntosh with 6 and Jordan Moody also with 6 points. McIntosh hkit a pair of 3 pointer the 2nd one with 7:14 left in the half gave him exactly 1000 points for his career.

James McKenna and Andy Drescher with 7 points each for the Knights. Gordon Lyons with 5. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2015, 06:35:18 PM
More halftime scores

Buffalo State 34 Oneonta State 32

Brockport State 39 Potsdam State 30

New Paltz 25 Fredonia 12    Must have done away with the shot clock in this one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2015, 07:06:27 PM
Final score from Geneseo:

Plattsburgh State 68  Geneseo State 51
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2015, 07:46:41 PM
All the final scores:

Plattsburgh State 68  Geneseo State 51 

I had the Cardinals winning this one but by a much closer margin of 77-73. I'll take the win!!



Buffalo State 71 Oneonta State 59

Thought this would be closer as well with a higher number of points as I had it 86-81. It was only a 5 point game with 3:33 left to play but the Bengals went on a 13-6 run to end the game so it was tighter than the score indicates.




Brockport 81 Potsdam 66

Brockport scored one 3 pointer more than I said they would and so did the Bears as I had this one at 78-63. I had the 15 point margin right on the number.



New Paltz 65 Fredonia 51

No surprises in this game either as the Hawks took care of business. I had it 68-60 in favor of New Paltz. I was close with the Hawks but the Blue Devils 12 point first half doomed me there. I mean 12 points in the half, who coulda predicted that??? Hawks may not be so lucky tomorrow night in the Queen City when they face the Bengals. They are 7 point underdogs in that game and I think the Bengals will win it by a bigger margin than that. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2015, 09:05:31 AM
Plattsburgh State 68 Genseso State 51

I didn't expect a margin this large in the final score between these two teams. The Cardinals handed the Knights their worst loss of the season. In what was billed as a battle of two of the best big men in the conference, turned into a 3 point shooting display by the Cardinals. I said last week after Cortland came to town and upset the Cardinals, that this team, too many times this year, has lived by the three and died by the three. After dying against Cortland in the 2nd half of that game, the 3 point shooters were out in force tonight as 5 different players hit from downtown and 4 of them had 2 or more long bombs.

Geneseo grabbed an early 5 point lead but the Cardinals answered with 5 points of their own and after the Knights went in front 7-6, Plattsburgh reeled off 9 straight points to take a 15-7 lead. They were never headed and continued to lead throughout the period by at least a 4 point margin and settled for a 30-25 halftime edge.

The teams traded baskets after the break but the Knights were making layups and the Cardinals were draining threes. Gordon Lyons opened with a layup for Geneseo only to have Shamoy McIntosh answer with his third 3 pointer of the night.
A layup by the Knights' Andy Dreschler was followed by a 3 pointer from the Cards' Ezra Hodgson. The Knights came back with consecutive layups by James McKenna and Devon Anderson. The Cards responded with back to back drives to the hoop by Jordan Moody and Hodgson. Geneseo's Nick Fessenden scored to cut the lead to 5 points at 40-35 with 13:40 to play. The Knights would never be that close again. Hodgson buried a three and after a Gordon Lyons layup, the Cards Zack Coleman stole an errant pass and went the length of the court, scoring on a nice move to the basket, as he was getting fouled. He made the free throw and the Cardinals' Xavier Thomas followed that with another drive inside for a score and Plattsburgh had the first double digit lead of the game. Thomas and Kyle Richardson then provided the spark that put the Knights away for good. Down 48-39 and looking to close the gap even further the Knights went to their big man Lyons, for an inside bucket, but Richardson was there to block the shot and the Cards got the rebound. Hodgson missed a jumper but Thomas was there to get a hand on it, to tip it back up and in. After Geneseo's James McKenna made 1 of 2 from the line, Richardson drained a 3 pointer. The Knights got a 3 pointer from Jon Cohen to cut the lead to 10 but Thomas scored inside again, Richardson swished another 3 pointer, Eddie Correa got back in the act with a 3 pointer on the next Cardinal trip down the court and Richardson hit his 3rd trifecta on the ensuing Plattsburgh possession. The lead was 17, the score was 64-47 and there was 4:35 left to play. Seconds later the lead was 19 points and the Geneseo coaching staff threw in the towel. Both coaches emptied their bench as the final few minutes ticked off the clock.

Plattsburgh got contributions up and down their lineup as 2 starters and 3 subs scored in double figures. Ezra Hodgson led the scoring parade with 12 points and 10 rebounds. Kyle Richardson and Xavier Thomas both came off the bench and scored 11 points each, Richardson added 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks in 15 minutes of court time. His 3 long range jumpers, all within a 3 minute and 40 second span, were rally killers for the Knights and ended any hopes they had of getting back into this game. Jordan Moody also came off the bench to add 10 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Eddie Correa had 10 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists. He made a pair of three pointers which gave him 39 for the year and tied him for the most triples in the SUNYAC with Cortland's Blair Estarfaa. Point guard Mike Mitchell once again ran the offense in his usual efficient manner and had 7 assists while doing so. He is the conference leader in total assists with 74 for a 5.3 apg average and also tops the SUNYC with a 2.1 assist to turnover ratio. Plattsburgh's  big man, Reggie Williams, the Cardinals' leading scorer on the season, didn't have his usual offensive output. The outside shooting for Plattsburgh was going so well that the team never really looked to go inside to Reggie. He only had a few touches and was also the victim of some questionable foul calls so he didn't get quite as many minutes as usual. He was a force on the defensive end however and grabbed 6 rebounds and had 4 blocks which was instrumental in the Knights inability to put the ball through the hoop.

Shamoy McIntosh had 9 points on three 3 point baskets and added 3 assists. Shamoy's second 3 pointer that came with 7:14 left in the first half gave the Plattsburgh senior guard his 1000th career point. It should have happened Tuesday at home against Potsdam but Shamoy had to leave that game with a sprained ankle. He only played 17 minutes in tonight's game to allow him to rest up for tomorrow's battle against Brockport. He becomes the 14th player in Plattsburgh State history to score 1000 points. Congratulations to Shamoy on a stellar Cardinal career, which I hope doesn't end until he gets to play 18 more games this year, all wins of course. ;D (In case anyone's counting...that's 10 more regular season games, 2 SUNYAC playoff games and 6 NCAA tournament games.)       

Geneseo's big man Gordon Lyons only had 13 points, which is his 2nd lowest total of the year. Lyons was only 3 for 12 from the field which was his worst shooting night of the season. Lyons did record his 14th double double in 15 games as he had a game high 15 rebounds to go along with his game high 13 points. James McKenna posted a solid stat line of 10 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals and a block. Devon Anderson, who hails from my neck of the woods here in Plattsburgh and went to school at Beekmantown Central which is a stones throw from my house had 8 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a block. Andy Drescher had 9 points and 2 assists. Nick Fessenden had 7 rebounds to go with his 4 points.

Plattsburgh outshot the Knights in all 3 areas. They were 25-59  from the field (42.4%), 11-30 from downtown (36.7%) and 7-10 from the stripe (70.0%).

Geneseo was 19-62 from the field (30.6%), only 2-10 from long distance (20.0%) and just   11-21 from the foul line (52.4%)

The Knights outrebounded the Cardinals by a 47 to 40 margin with 20 of those boards coming off the offensive glass. That's what happens when you miss 43 of your 62 shots...plenty of offensive rebounds. Plattsburgh had 10 turnovers, their lowest total of the year while the Knights had 11 TO's. Plattsburgh had 17 assists on their 25 field goals, Geneseo had 12 helpers on their 19 made baskets.

The Cardinals improve to 11-4 overall and 6-2 in the YAC. They also keep their conference road record clean at 3-0. They move on to Brockport today for a game against the Golden Eagles at 2 PM.

Geneseo drops to 8-7 overall and falls into a 6th place tie in the conference standings with Brockport.  Both teams have a 4-4 YAC record. The Knights will take on Potsdam this afternoon at 2 pm   

   

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 24, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
Magicman....I sent you a PM as requested.  Hope you got it.  If not, send me one with the data I requested please :)
Your team lost to Cortland??  My daughter and her family lives down the road in the Village of Groton.   Yes, I've learned that there is a difference in the state between a town and a village preface! :)   Sure not a status thing wrt to Groton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2015, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: amh63 on January 24, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
Magicman....I sent you a PM as requested.  Hope you got it.  If not, send me one with the data I requested please :)
Your team lost to Cortland??  My daughter and her family lives down the road in the Village of Groton.   Yes, I've learned that there is a difference in the state between a town and a village preface! :)   Sure not a status thing wrt to Groton.

amh63,
I did get your PM with the requested info. Thank you. I will be sending one to you later this evening. And yes we lost to Cortland and I know your daughter lives close by that college. You told me that 2 years ago when Cortland beat us. Go ahead rub it in. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2015, 02:13:12 PM
Five games on tap today involving 9 SUNYAC teams. Only Oswego State is idle.

Plattsburgh State  at    Brockport State      2:00 PM  Co-featured Game of the Day

The temperature always gets a little warmer when these two teams square off in one of the hottest rivalries in the YAC over the past 8 years or so. So many barnburners it's hard to keep track of them. Just last year alone all 3 meetings were nail biters with each game more tension filled than the one before it, culminating with the Golden Eagles' comeback victory in the SUNYAC playoffs by a 57-56 score. The Cardinals season didn't end that day as they received a  Pool C bid into the Big Dance where they advanced to the Sweet 16, but it did deprive them of a SUNYAC Championship, something this group of senior players have yet to attain. Revenge will be at the forefront today as the Cardinals take the court in Brockport. They won in Tuttle North Gym last year and the year before that so their confidence level is high. Both teams are coming off wins last night and Plattsburgh is in much better shape than Brockport as far as the conference standings go. The Cards are all alone in 2nd place, one full game behind Oswego. With the Lakers idle today, Plattsburgh can move to within a half game of first place with a victory. Brockport is in a tie for the 6th and final playoff spot with Geneseo, who looks to grab a win today against lowly Potsdam. And though there is lots of basketball to be played yet, as today will only complete the first half of the conference schedule, the Golden Eagles would like to be in a playoff position at the end of the day. A loss today will likely put them into 7th place and a good possibility they could fall as low as 8th place, if Oneonta, Geneseo, and Buffalo State all win. I think they all do win. Brockport is the home dog here according to the oddsmakers , as the Cardinals are favored by 8 points. I think that Plattsburgh will head home with a 2-0 weekend to show for their road trip.  Final score Plattsburgh 80 Brockport 71
     
   
New Paltz State at     Buffalo State      2:00 PM          Co-featured Game of the Day

Buffalo State has made a nice recovery as they have won 4 straight conference games after starting out 1-4. They have went from near the bottom of the standings into sole possession of 5th place with a 5-4 mark and if they win today they can pull within a half game of idle (in the conference) Cortland. New Paltz is the surprise team of the YAC so far this year. With a 5-2 conference log that includes consecutive wins over Cortland, Brockport, and Geneseo, the Hawks are flying high. They took care of business yesterday against Fredonia but today they will find the going a bit tougher. The Bengals still remember how they lost to the Hawks 2 years ago near the end of the season. It was a loss that effectively kept the Bengals from the post season that year and I still hear about it from time to time. The oddsmakers have made the home team a 7 point favorite but I think the Bengals win by more than that. Buffalo State 86 New Paltz 66
   
   
Potsdam State  at    Geneseo State      2:00 PM

Knights get back on the winning track. It seems like everyone does when they get the Bears this year.  Point spread is a double digit 14 points in favor of the Knights and I think that the Bears will probably drop this one by a bigger margin than that. Geneseo 78 Potsdam 60. 
   
Oneonta State  at    Fredonia State      2:00 PM

The Red Dragons should take care of business in this one as well Fredonia hasn't got the horses to stay with Oneonta. Oddsmakers favor the Red Dragons by 11 points but I see the final as an Oneonta win by 83-64.
   
   
Cortland State at     Elmira      8:00 PM

These Red Dragons should be able to handle the Soaring Eagles but Elmira has surprised a few teams this year including SUNYAC leader Oswego, in Oswego, Clarkson at Clarkson, Hartwick at Hartwick and Ithaca at Ithaca. So the Red Xragons better not take this team for granted like they did SUNYIT last year or Utica College. Two years ago they barely beat a 6-19 Elmira team when the Red Dragons had a team that went to the Sweet 16. Odds makers have made them a 10 point road favorite. It could be closer. Cortland 74 Elmira 67. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
Brockport State 26 Plattsburgh State 25 at the half.

Sloppy first half of basketball by both teams with 10 turnovers by Plattsburgh and 7 by Brockport. Niether team shooting well low 30% range for both. Plattsburgh led by Shamoy McIntosh with 9 points and Eddie Correa with 6.

Golden Eagles get scoring from 8 different players led by 6 from Levi pace and 5 from Mike Gallagher.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2015, 03:19:45 PM
Updates:

Brockport 45 Plattsburgh 32.  11:22 left to play.  I don't like the looks of this one

Geneseo 59 Potsdam 58     8:37 left in the game.      Go Bears

Oneonta 62 Fredonia 52  3:54 left to play.

No live stats or video for the Buffalo State/New Paltz game. Must be a big black hole in Buffalo. Pull up the live stats link and they give you the women's score from the Buff State/Oneonta game of yesterday. Somebody missed the boat there. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
Final scores

Geneseo State 82 Potsdam State 70

Oneonta State 66 Fredonia 63

Can I print this in small tiny letters?      Brockport State 71 Plattsburgh State 52
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2015, 04:37:33 PM
Final score from the wasteland where there is no internet webcast or live stats.

Buffalo State 95 New Paltz State 89
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2015, 06:14:24 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 24, 2015, 04:37:33 PM

be a big black hole

Final score from the wasteland where there is no internet webcast or live stats.

Buffalo State 95 New Paltz State 89


Wow.   "Wasteland" .....  "black hole" ?????????
I can tell you whatever it is that u want to know.  I had a great seat tonight 👍

Here the stats too............http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/boxscore.aspx?path=mbball&id=2785
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2015, 01:32:49 AM
For the second week in a row a Buffalo State player has been chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Last week it was Rod Epps getting the award. This week it's senior guard Chris Cartwright.

The Bengals are a different team since Cartwright returned and played in his first game on 12-27. They have won 6 straight games, have gone 9-2 with Cartwright in the lineup, and put together the longest winning streak of conference games in the YAC this year with 5 straight victories. Only Oswego has won five straight conference games and they did it by winning 2 back in early December, then played 3 non-conference games, and then won 3 YAC games in January. The Bengals last 5 wins have all been conference foes.

Congratulation to Chris for an outstanding week. Here's the writeup from the SUNYAC website:

Chris Cartwright, Buffalo State

The senior guard averaged 21.0 points and 5.0 assists in three more SUNYAC victories this past week. Cartwright poured in 24 points and added four assists in a 78-61 victory at Fredonia on Tuesday. He added 19 points in a 71-59 win over Oneonta on Friday, and had 20 points and seven assists in a 95-89 win over New Paltz on Saturday. The Bengals are 9-2 since Cartwright joined the team after starting 1-4 in the first semester.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2015, 02:06:07 PM
   Chris Cartwright ....another success story in the making.  If Jordan Glover is " Most Improved player of the year" then Chris has to be the "Comeback player of the year".  It's amazing how this kid has come back after nearly 4 yrs away from the collegiate game. His stats, IMHO, are All-American worthy.

   Chris is 3rd in the 'Yac in scoring, 2nd in ft%, 1st in 3 Ptrs per game ( tied with Correa-Plattsburgh), 2nd in assists per game (behind teammate Derrick "Fire" Fernandez), 3rd in assists/turnover ratio & 3 pt fg% and 6th in steals! Not to mention 7th in mins played!

  Rod last week and Chris this week! What more can a BENGALs supporter ask for?  I'm just sad that I didn't catch this before Magicman !!!!!😢

Go BENGALS!!👍
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2015, 05:38:07 AM
Medaille 85 Fredonia State 75

This game slipped right by me on Tuesday. I looked at Massey earlier in the day and for some reason (probably because it was a makeup game because of a postponement in November) it wasn't on his Tuesday matchups.

Medaille was favored by 11 points and since I've picked against Fredonia all year long I would have had them losing this one by a 77-64 final score.

The Blue Devils tried hard to get their first D3 win of the season as they jumped on the Mavericks early and often, racing out to a 25-15 lead halfway through the first quarter. They eventually stretched that margin to a 20 point 48-28 advantage before they settled for a 49-34 halftime lead. Alas, the Blue Devils couldn't stand all that prosperity, as they only managed to score 26 second half points, while Medaille found their rhythm and put up 51 big ones. Outscored by a nearly 2-1 margin in the half, left Fredonia on the short end of the score, despite their great start. Ian Helps had 24 points and 9 rebounds to lead the way for the Blue Devils. Kyree Hull had 11 points and Max Pearce added 10.

Fredonia falls to 1-14 (0-10 SUNYAC) and will look to break into the conference win column when they travel north to take on Potsdam State on Friday evening at 5:30 PM     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2015, 03:30:47 PM
My beloved Bengals are getting ready for thier annual ,"north country" jaunt. The Plattsburgh / Potsdam trip is usually the longest ( for any Sunyac school) trip of the season.  Stopped by practice yesterday and the Bengals spirits were good. A couple of players still nursing injuries, but looking better everyday. Last years season ended at Plattsburgh when my Bengals lost a game that they had to win there to go to the playoffs.  A sad day for all involved ( and a loooong bus ride home too).

Here is to wishing them the best.  There won't be a tougher test this Jan than this weekends test.  I'm wondering if Magicman will make the Plattsburgh game?  Me thinks he shall!!!!!!!👍
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2015, 06:32:29 PM
Not sure if I can make the game or not. Some guy I know is showing up on Friday and I have to spend some time taking him on a tour of the city. Maybe I can drive fast so I can make the game by halftime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 30, 2015, 01:25:08 AM
WHAT MAGICMAN NOT IN THE STANDS WHEN HIS CARDS FACE THE BENGALS??????  Who would have thunk it???  Tell your friend that every tour of Plattsburg has to finish at a basketball game??!!  Who knows it might work?? ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2015, 04:58:26 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 30, 2015, 01:25:08 AM
WHAT MAGICMAN NOT IN THE STANDS WHEN HIS CARDS FACE THE BENGALS??????  Who would have thunk it???  Tell your friend that every tour of Plattsburg has to finish at a basketball game??!!  Who knows it might work?? ;D

It was a joke my friend, as the guy I have to give a tour of the city to, is none other than Bengalsrule. I'm his personal chauffeur whenever he visits Plattsburgh, which I hope will not only be this weekend but also another weekend at the end of February. ;D

Plus K for staying up so late and visiting 3 different boards in the East Region.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 30, 2015, 12:30:45 PM
A warm welcome to the Bengals and Devils this weekend.

-13 tonight, +5 for the high tomorrow and -2 for Saturday night, with Wind Chill Warnings posted.

WIND CHILL READINGS... AS LOW AS 34 BELOW DUE TO TEMPERATURES 16 BELOW TO 6 BELOW ZERO... AND WINDS WEST 5 TO 15 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH.

Snow and Blowing Snow.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
All 10 teams in action today at 5:30 PM.  It's a cold and snowy day here in the North Country. Could be worse though as we could have gotten hit like most of the New England area. 


Buffalo State  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM   The Game of the Week

The rematch between the Cardinals and Bengals should be another closely contested game between the two highest scoring offenses in the SUNYAC. Plattsburgh won the first round in Buffalo by a 94-89 score. Bengals however, now own the longest consecutive win streak in the conference with 5 straight YAC wins. A pair of wins this weekend would likely vault the Bengals from 5th place into 2nd place. Plattsburgh is coming off a poor outing against Brockport State after winning a key matchup against Geneseo. The Cardinals went 3-1 on their two trips to the western part of the state, which is about as good as they've ever done. Now they return home where the friendly confines of Memorial Hall haven't been nearly as hospitable for the Cardinals as it has been in the past. Three of their five losses have come at home and their hopes for hosting the SUNYAC tournament are no longer in their hands as they will need help if they hope to catch YAC leader, Oswego. The Lakers aren't the problem today, however, as Buffalo State will bring an array of weapons to this contest that the Plattsburgh coaching staff has been focused on for the past week. High on the list will be limiting the 3 point shooting that the Bengals bombarded the Cardinals with in Buffalo. Jordan Glover and Chris Cartwright combined to drain 12 buckets from long distance as the Bengals went 13x26. Plattsburgh had 9 three pointers in that game including 6 from Eddie Correa but clearly will have to prevent the Bengals from outscoring them by double digits from the 3 point line.

The oddsmakers have made the home team a 4 point favorite in this one and the over/under is 156 points. I think the Cardinals will defend home court and I'll take the over as the final score should be something like 85-80.         





Oswego State  at  New Paltz State        5:30 PM

Lakers take on the Hawks for the first time this season. Oswego feeling comfortable with a 2 game lead in the loss column. Hawks looking to surprise another team that may be overlooking them. Point spread has Oswego favored by a 6 point margin. I think they win by a few more than that. Oswego 78 New Paltz 69.


Brockport State        Geneseo State        5:30 PM

The Golden Eagles got a big win at home last Saturday, taking down Plattsburgh, now they need a big win on the road. The Knights are not having the success that was anticipated by a veteran team. Both teams are 5-4 in the YAC and the winner will have a leg up for the 6th and final playoff spot. The oddsmakers give the Knights a slight 3 point edge here. I think the Golden Eagles could pull off the upset here so I'll take them to do so by a 75-72 final.                                                 


Cortland State  at  Oneonta State        5:30 PM

The battle of the Red Dragons in their first meeting of the year. The teams split a pair last year with both teams winning on their home court, but Cortland has won 6 of the past 8 matchups. After seeing the Oneonta variety of Red Dragon play in early December I was impressed and thought they would have a much better record  than the 7-8 log they come into this game with. They are currently in 8th place in the YAC and need to win some of these home games if they want to make the     
playoffs. Cortland, after their fine start, dropped 3 conference games in a row but seems to have righted the ship with 4 straight victories, which included big wins over Plattsburgh and Geneseo. Currently tied for 3rd place with New Paltz, these Red Dragons would like to see some separation after the weekend is over. With a pair of wins they could be all alone in 2nd place come Saturday night. The point spread favors Cortland by 6 points but I see this as a must win game for Oneonta. With 1st place Oswego coming to town tomorrow, and in danger of dropping two more games at home, Zack Mager, Frankie Kelly and Mikey McElroy will need to bring their A game today. I think they will as Oneonta's Red Dragons will pull an upset here and grab bragging honors, at least until Feb. 10th. Oneonta takes this one 71-68.
   
   
Fredonia State  at  Potsdam State        5:30 PM

Fredonia lost at home to the Bears back on January 10th. The Blue Devils have a young team and need to learn how to win. They have been in a number of games this year only to go through a bad stretch and come up just short. A 1 point loss at Oswego, a 3 point loss against Oneonta and just the other night they had Medaille in a 15 point hole at halftime, only to let the Mavericks escape with a 10 point win when the Blue Devils followed a 49 point 1st half with a 26 point 2nd half. They have yet to beat a Division 3 team and today against Potsdam could be their last chance. The Bears haven't been much better and this may be their last chance to get another W. Potsdam has lost 8 of their last 9 all by double digits, with only the win against Fredonia in that stretch. The point spread favors the home team by a slim 2 point margin. As much as I want the Bears to win this game I think the Blue Devils just might get it done today. I hope I'm wrong on this one but I'll take Fredonia to win by a 70-67 final.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 30, 2015, 04:58:26 AM
It was a joke my friend, as the guy I have to give a tour of the city to, is none other than Bengalsrule. I'm his personal chauffeur whenever he visits Plattsburgh, which I hope will not only be this weekend but also another weekend at the end of February. ;D

The "tour of the city" was the most exciting 10 min drive I've had this year😃😃😃😃😃😃

The subs at Subway were pretty good too!
Thanks Magicman!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on January 30, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
LOL Magicman definitely fooled me with the "tour of the city."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2015, 12:46:03 PM
Some excellent games last night in the SUNYAC I will have some further comments later on in the weekend. These damn early games always have me in a rush mode. Never enough time.

Last night's scores. Went 4 out of 5 with my predictions only missing the Oswego-New Paltz game.


Plattsburgh State 86  Buffalo State 71
 
I had it 85-80 with the Cards winning. Just missed the Cards total and the 3 point shooters from the Bengals were well guarded by the Cardinals which limited their point total. I did manage to hit the "over 156" total I called for, as they combined for 157 points.





New Paltz State 80  Oswego State 71   The Hawks pull off another big surprise. Thank you Hawks. So glad to be wrong on this one. ;D  I had the point totals fairly close as I called for a 78-69 Oswego win, just needed to reverse the teams. :D

Brockport State 71 Geneseo State 68   I had this mild upset as I took the Golden Eagles to win by a 75-72 final. Close with my totals and nailed the 3 point margin of victory.

Oneonta State 89 Cortland State 68    Another upset as Cortland was favored by 6. I correctly picked the Oneonta Red Dragons to win this one by a 71-68 final score. I hit Cortland's score right on the button, but didn't expect the M&M boys, Mager and McElroy to have such big nights...33 and 24 respectively. I did say they would bring their A game(along with Frankie Kelly who filled up the stat sheet),  but they brought their A+ game. 8-)

Fredonia State 65 Potsdam State 57

The 4th upset of the evening gave the Blue Devils their first conference win and their first win against a D3 opponent. I had them winning by a 70-67 final. Now I hope they don't have a 2 game winning streak, this week anyway. ;D

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 31, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 30, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
LOL Magicman definitely fooled me with the "tour of the city."

Yes indeed.  Magicman is our all Sunyac host.  This was my 4th or 5th visit to Plattsburgh and he has always been the greatest of hosts. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2015, 01:28:16 PM
Four games slated for today in the SUNYAC all tipping off at 2:00 PM

Not a lot of time since they go off so early. Quick picks without the usual banter.

Fredonia State  at  Plattsburgh State        2:00 PM

Blue Devils hope for a winning streak. Cardinals hope they don't have a letdown. They have a bad history this year of winning on Friday and losing on Saturday. Time for that to stop. Cards favored by 18 points. Fredonia led at the half last time they played, before falling by a 67-58 score. Today I think it will be by a bigger margin. Cards win 83-64.
   
Cortland State  at New Paltz State        2:00 PM   LS V

Hawks continue to surprise bur these Red Dragons do not want to go home with an 0-2 weekend. If Cortland loses this game they could fall all the way down into an 8th place tie. Revenge is a big factor here as the Red Dragons lost to the Hawks earlier in Cortland. Point spread favors Cortland by 7 points. It should be closer but I'll Cortland by a 74-70 final score.

   
   
Buffalo State  at  Potsdam State        2:00 PM

Bengals get their mojo back by beating up on toothless Bears. Travel home to the Queen city in a better frame of mind than last night. Oddsmakers have the Bengals favored by 13 points. I'll be surprised if it's that close. Bengals won by 27 earlier this month. Today it's Buff State 86 Potsdam 65.

   
Oswego State  at  Oneonta State        2:00 PM

Can the Lakers lose 2 in a row? Can these Red Dragons win their 3rd conference game in a row and vault back into playoff contention? I think they can even though the oddsmakers have them listed as a 5 point home dog. I'm taking Oneonta in another mild upset here as they win 77-73 and split the season series with the Lakers.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 31, 2015, 02:47:17 PM
Half time - Potsdam 34, Buffalo State 25.  Bears have made 5 treys and outrebounded the Bengals by 10. 

Home thawing pipes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2015, 12:20:56 AM
Final scores from today's games.

Plattsburgh State 73 Fredonia State 41 

I had the Cards winning by an 83-64 final but they rang up such a large lead that this game was over after the first 10 minutes. The Cardinals were up by 37 points early in the 2nd half and with the score 54-17 with over 15 minutes left to play it was time to give the younger players some extra playing time. So the regulars were on the bench early and when the subs came in they worked the shot clock on every possession and ran through their offensive sets. It held the score down which  made it more respectable, because the Cardinals could have broken the century mark today if they wanted to run up the score. Coach Curle doesn't play that way, though and a number of guys saw additional floor time.

Jordan Moody was the high man for Plattsburgh with 19 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. Reggie Williams and Shamoy McIntosh both had 10 points. Reggie just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds and added 2 blocks. Shamoy had 5 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals. Xavier Thomas showed once again why he is called the X-Man as he had several more spectacular dunks that brought the crowd to its feet. Someone at the college needs to put together a highlight reel of his rim rockers this year. It would be one of the best in the country. Xavier finished with 9 points, 5 rebounds and 2 steals. Kyle Richardson came off the bench and was the game's leading rebounder for the 2nd day in a row.  He tied Williams for game high honors with 9 boards and added 2 points, 2 blocks and 1 assist. Mike Mitchell again had 5 assists as he ran the offense. The Cardinals had 12 guys break into the scoring column.   

The Blue Devils struggled to score today and only had 13 points at the break. They were led by probable Rookie of the Year, Ian Helps who was the only Fredonia player in double figures with 10 points. He also led the team with 6 rebounds and had 3 blocked shots. Justin Tapper had 9 points, 5 rebounds and 3 steals

Plattsburgh improves to 13-5 overall and 8-3 in the YAC and stays in 2nd place a half game behind Oswego. They return to action next Friday as they travel to Oneonta and then New Paltz.

Fredonia falls to 2-15, 1-11 in the conference. They will host Elmira College on Tuesday Feb 3rd at 7:00 PM.



Cortland State 57 New Paltz State 48

I had Cortland winning this one by a 74-70 score, but when I saw the halftime score of 23-17 I knew that wouldn't happen. Hawks put the clamps on the Red Dragon offense in the 1st half but had trouble scoring themselves. Cortland with a 2nd half reversal, outscores the Hawks 40-25. This game was tied at 44 with 3:16 to go and the Hawks RJ Rosa scored to give New Paltz the lead with 2:32 remaining. 5 straight points by Blair Estarfaa, 2 from the line, followed by a huge 3 pointer after the Hawks turned it over. That seemed to be the backbreaker. The Hawks came down and tried for the equalizer from downtown and missed, got the rebound and missed again. The Hawks retained possession after the dual misses but after a Cortland timeout, the Hawks turned it over once again and now with time running down, fouled Paul Burke who made both free throws to up the lead to 51-46 with 34 seconds left. The Hawks shot themselves in the foot once more with another turnover and fouled TJ Hefele who made both of them. New Paltz missed a 3 pointer, fouled Hefele again who made them both again to make the final a 9 point margin. A much closer game than the score indicates, however.

TJ Hefele with 19 points, Lamard Herron with 13 points and Blair Estarfaa with 11 to lead Cortland. Tefele had 4 rebounds, 2assists and 2 steals as well. Herron added 6 rebounds and 5 steals. Matt McGowan had a team high 10 rebounds.

Taylor Sowah had a double-double for the Hawks with 11 points and a game high 14 rebounds. He also had a team high 4 assists. RJ Rosa had 10 points, 5 rebounds, 5 steals and 3 assists. Kevin Roach had 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 points.

Cortland gets the win they needed and is now 13-4 overall and 6-4 in the YAC. They will host Brockport in a big game on Tuesday at 5:30 PM

Their win made a logjam of 3rd place as Cortland, Brockport and now New Paltz have identical 6-4 records. Buffalo State is also 2 games over .500 with a 7-5 record. Those 4 teams along with the 2 leaders, Oswego and Plattsburgh occupy the playoff positions for the SUNYAC tournament. Oneonta and Geneseo are both tied for the 7th spot with 5-5 conference records.

New Paltz drops below .500 once again with an 8-9 overall record. They will host their travel partners, Oneonta on Tuesday at 5:30 PM in another game with huge ramifications on who makes the playoffs.


Buffalo State  77 Potsdam State 74

I had the Bengals winning by an 86-65 margin and at halftime it looked like the Bears might be the team winning by double digits. Potsdam took it to the Bengals in the first half as they led at the break by a 34-25 margin. Buff State had 11 turnovers in the period and didn't score in the final 3:42 as Potsdam stretched a 3 point 24-21 lead to the 9 point halftime edge with a 10-4 finish in the period. Bengals fell behind by as many as 12 points in the 2nd half and were still down by 9 points, 65-56, with only 7 minutes left in the game. 4 minutes later after 2 Zac Adams free throws they weren't much closer as the score was 69-61. The Bengals finally broke out of their funk with 2:41 left in the game. I'm not sure if they applied flubber to their sneakers or sipped some secret potion but the Bengals scored an incredible 16 points in that remaining time to pull out the 3 point victory. Chris Thompson started that final surge with a layup to cut the deficit to 6, and after the bears Joe Estramonte made 2 free throws, Rod Epps buried a 3 pointer to narrow the gap to 5. Estramonte went to the line again and made 1 of 2 and then he fouled Epps who made both his free throws to cut the lead to 4. Potsdam then went to the line and missed both free throws and after  missed Bengal 3 pointer Chris Thompson was fouled grabbing the rebound and putback and made 1 of 2 from the line to make it a single possession game at 72-69. The Bengals fouled the right guy again who missed 2 more from the line and then Chris Cartwright was fouled and canned them both to make it a 72-71 score. The Bears then turn the ball over with 41 seconds left and Cartwright makes them pay as he buries a three pointer to give the Bengals the lead for good. After Potsdam missed on their possession, Larry Rivers gets loose inside for a dunk to put an exclamation on the Buff State comeback. Now up by a two possession lead with just 22 seconds left the Bengals watch the Bears Tom Graf score inside and Potsdam has to foul when they don't get a turnover on the inbounds pass. Bengals Kevin Marmolejos only gets 1 of 2 to go in and the Bears have a chance to tie it up but the three point attempt by Estramonte doesn't go in and the Bengals' Leon Moise grabs the rebound as the game ends. The bus ride home got a whole lot happier for the Boys from the Queen City, who were looking at 0-2 for the weekend.

Larry Rivers led the team with 18 points, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and 2 assists. Chris Cartwright followed with 15 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists. Rod Epps had 13 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists. Lovell Smith had 9 points, 6 rebounds and 4 blocks. Chris Thompson had 9 points and 7 rebounds. Derrick Fernandez had 6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Rey Jordan added 6 points, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Potsdam was led by Connor Engle with 14 points and 7 rebounds. Rishawd Hendricks had 13 points and 3 boards. Joe Estramonte filled the stat sheet with 11 points, 5 rebounds, 5 steals and 4 assists. Zac Adams had 11 points and 4 rebounds. Marquis Lee had 9 assists, 8 points and 4 rebounds. Tom Graf had 8 points with 6 rebounds, while Tariq McIntyre had a team high 8 rebounds, 4 points and 2 blocks.

Buffalo State stays in playoff contention as they are 7-5 in the YAC which puts them in the 6th and final playoff position. They are off until next weekend which will have a huge impact on their hopes for post season play, when Cortland and Oswego travel to Buffalo to try their luck in the Sports Arena.

Potsdam drops to 2-15 overall and 1-10 in the conference. They can only hope to play a spoiler role for the rest of this year and possibly throw a wrench into some well thought out plans. I hope they win every game they have left. (except the one on 2-17).


Oswego 83 Oneonta 79

I had this one going to the Red Dragons by a 77-73 final, mainly because I was rooting against the Lakers for obvious reasons. I didn't think that Oswego would go 0-2 on this road trip and I didn't think that Oneonta could go 2-0 against 2 of the tougher teams in the conference on back to back days.  But I could hope and that why I took Oneonta. And with a little luck I could have been sitting pretty with a perfect day. Incidentally my total of 150 points was exactly what these teams had at the end of regulation. I'll hang my hat on that stat. Still went 3 of 4 today and 7 of 9 for the weekend and picked a fair number of the upsets. This has to be from top to bottom one of the toughest conferences in D3. And the best is yet to come. The next 3 weekends will, as usual, provide plenty of drama, as the teams battle for playoff position and the right to host the YAC Final Four. 

Apparently the Lakers can't get enough basketball in regulation lately as they played their 2nd straight overtime game in a row. It's also the 4th time they went to OT this season, including the last time they played these Red Dragons when they needed 2 overtime periods to get the W. Tonight they only needed a single extra session though, as they outscored Oneonta 8-4 in the bonus frame. The Lakers improve to 3-1 in overtime games. Oneonta made a valiant effort as they trailed at the half by a 33-28 score and fell behind in the 2nd period by as much as 12 points. Oswego gained their first double digit lead of the period with 16:52 remaining in the game. From that point forward the Red Dragons were trailing  by a margin of 6 to 12 points until a layup by Laker Mark Candelario put the visitors up by a 64-52 margin and the largest lead of the afternoon with 7:16 left to play. On the Red Dragons' next possession Jack Dignan was fouled attempting a three pointer andhe made all three free throws to get the lead back to single digits. The Lakers misfired on their next trip down the floor and Dignan came down and this time buried the three ball. The teams would exchange baskets for the next few possessions and with 4 minutes left Oneonta's Jackson Zuvic scored to make it a 2 point deficit. The Lakers went back up by 4 and were still up by that margin after a Brian Sortino layup, when Lawrence Coleman hit a 3 pointer for Oneonta to make the score 70-69 with 1:34 left on the clock. Oswego missed but so did the Red Dragons, but an offensive rebound gave them another chance, only to be negated by a turnover. A foul sent Sortino back to the line for the Lakers and he came through making them both with 47 ticks to go. Frankie Kelly scored on a layup and Sortino was sent back to the line with 25 seconds left. Again he made them both. And again Oneonta would score on a dunk by Coleman off a feed from Kelly. Once again Oneonta fouled but this time it wasn't Sortino  at the line. Elijah McLaurin made 1 of 2 and left the door open for Oneonta to win or tie. The Red Dragons opted for the tie as Frankie Kelly drove to the hoop. I've seen that move in person back on December 6th. This time however, it didn't go in with 2 seconds on the clock like it did in Plattsburgh that day. No, he missed it, grabbed the rebound and put it back up and in with no time left in the game. OT here we come. Unfortunately for Oneonta for the 2nd time against the Lakers it wasn't to be. Mark Candelario would prove to be the difference maker in the OT as his 2 made free throws with 32 seconds left gave the Lakers a 3 point 80-77 lead. After Oneonta failed to score on their possession they fouled Kyle Covely and he went to the line for 2 shots He missed them both but on the 2nd free throw Candelario was there for the tip in which was the dagger in the heart of the Dragon. Kelly scored again to cut the lead to 3 with 10 seconds left and then Oswego turned the ball over only to have Oneonta return the favor and fail to get off a game tying shot. The Lakers' Walter Sampson was fouled with 2 seconds left and made 1 of 2 for the final points on the game.

Oswego was led by Brain Sortino and Kyle Covely with 16 points each. Alex Rawa and mark Candelario both dropped in 11. Candelario in addition to his heroics in overtime had a game high 15 rebounds and 5 blocked shots. Walter Sampson, Rashawn Powell and Ian Schupp all scored 7 points each.

Lawrence Coleman was the big scorer for Oneonta this afternoon with 24 points and a team high 8 rebounds. Frankie Kelly had 14 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists. Zach Mager added 16 points and 3 rebounds. Jack Dignan had 11 points 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Mikey McElroy also had 8 rebounds to share team honors with Coleman and Kelley. Jackson Zuvic had 8 points, 2 assists and 2 blocks.

Oswego holds onto 1st place as they improve to 8-2 in the YAC and 12-5 overall They will host Geneseo on Tuesday in another big game.

Oneonta falls to 8-9 overall and into a 7th place tie with Geneseo at 5-5 on the conference. They will face New Paltz on Tuesday at 5:30   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2015, 01:48:22 AM

« on: January 17, 2015, 10:49:00 pm »

"I'm predicting that the regular season champ will have at least 4 loses.  Quote me."

2 weeks later, and third of the season left (after this coming Tuesday), that prediction looks like it may be spot on! I can't remember a time, this late in the season, where the Number 8 team (Geneseo/Oneonta) is within 3 wins of the number 1 team (Oswego).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2015, 05:39:23 PM
Moody SUNYAC P.O.W.

Jordan Moody, Plattsburgh
Yorktown, N.Y. / Yorktown HS

The scoop......

In his second and third starts of the season, Plattsburgh State senior Jordan Moody didn't disappoint as he led the Cardinals to a pair of critical victories which allowed them to keep pace with league-leading Oswego State. The final-year man out of Yorktown, N.Y., averaged 16.5 points per game while shooting 11-for-19 (57.9-percent) from the field which included a 4-for-7 (57.1-percent) showing from long range. Moody was one of four players who finished with 11 or more points in a win over Buffalo State on Friday night as he finished with 13. He led the charge in the Cardinals' domination of Fredonia State the following afternoon, pumping in a game-best 18 points to go along with five rebounds, three assists and three steals. Over the two-game stretch, Moody also averaged four rebounds, two assists and 2.5 steals per outing.


I had a chance to see him up close and personal this week. I wish he would have taken another season off :).  Congrats to a very personable young man and 1 helluva ball player!  ;).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 04, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2015, 01:48:22 AM

« on: January 17, 2015, 10:49:00 pm »

"I'm predicting that the regular season champ will have at least 4 loses.  Quote me."

2 weeks later, and third of the season left (after this coming Tuesday), that prediction looks like it may be spot on! I can't remember a time, this late in the season, where the Number 8 team (Geneseo/Oneonta) is within 3 wins of the number 1 team (Oswego).

Wow if I thought the race was close before, it's even closer now! 1st place tie between Plattsburgh and Oswego and a 4 way tie for 8th between Geneseo, Brockport , New Paltz and Oneonta. 2 games separating all (8-3 to 6-5).  It's gonna be a battle to the finish line. Anyone of 8 teams could finish in first place!!!!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 04, 2015, 06:36:48 PM
Sad News:

Longtime Potsdam Assistant Coach Stan Cohen, who had been on the Bears bench for 42 years passed away yesterday at his home.  Stan also coached men's and women's basketball at SUNY Canton where he taught for 30+ years.  Stan was on the bench for both of Potsdam's National Championship teams, and also for the 60 game win streak.  He played basketball and lacrosse at Hobart College.  His son, Dr. Hal Cohen played at Syracuse University, and his granddaughter Brittany Cohen starred at SUNY Cortland and was the D3Hoops 2011-12 East Region Player of the Year, and an honorable mention all american.

Will post more detail as it is available.  Jdex - know Stan was a friend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 04, 2015, 06:47:16 PM
There will be calling hours for Coach Cohen on Sunday, February 8th at O'Leary's funeral home in Canton, NY. As I learn more details I will share ASAP. Please keep Coach Cohen's family in your thoughts and prayers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2015, 06:48:41 PM
That is sad news bear, my thoughts go out to his family. I  remember all the great Canton teams that Mr. Cohen coached. I watched Hal play at Syracuse and for years after when he came to Plattsburgh and played in our PBA tournament. And followed Brittany's career at Cortland. Stan was a fixture at Potsdam for so long it will be hard to picture the Bears without him.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2015, 09:31:40 PM
Final Scores from last night's action.

Cortland 71 Brockport 59

Red Dragons led from the start and were never seriously threatened in this game. Lamard Herron was the game's high scorer with 25 points and 7 rebounds. Cortland takes over sole possession of 3rd place with a 7-4 conference record.


Oneonta 98  New Paltz 72

These Red Dragons take care of their travel partners again for a sweep of the season series. Oneonta has had the Hawks number this year winning each game by at least 21 points. Lawrence Coleman, 20 points, 7 rebounds and Zac Mager 20 points, 4 rebounds were the high scorers in the game. Oneonta after a 2-2 tie took the lead and won with ease.


Geneseo 59 Oswego 55

The Blue Knights held the Lakers to their 2nd lowest offensive display of the season. Oswego's lowest output came against Knights of a different color as Clarkson's Golden Knights held them to 54 points back in November. Ironically the total points in that game matched the total points in last nights game as Clarkson won 60-54.

Geneseo's Mr. Double Double, Gordon Lyons was he game's high scorer as he had 18 points and 12 rebounds to get his 17th double double in 18 games. Gordon is the leading rebounder in Division 3 with 13.1 rebounds per game. He is also right at the top of the double double list as he is 2nd in the country in that category, only because the guy in first has played more games than Gordon. There's a good chance he could end up in first place or tied for first place at year's end. He is also the 28th leading scorer in D3 with a 20.1 ppg average. In the minutes per game category he ranks 15th with an average of 36.5 minutes on the court. He was a pre-season 2nd Team All American  but his statistics are so outstanding I think he should merit First Team consideration at year's end. I don't think there is another big man who is ranked as highly as Gordon in so many categories. We shall see where he ends up.

James McKenna with a solid night as he filled up the stat sheet against the Lakers. He had 15 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals and a block.

With the loss the Lakers are now tied with Plattsburgh for the SUNYAC lead but the Cardinals with a win over Oswego earlier, currently hold the tiebreaker. That, of course, could change on Feb 14th, when the Cardinals travel to Oswego for the return engagement. The conference, over the next several weeks, could see wholesale changes each weekend as the teams are so tightly bunched. Here are the current standings.


Plattsburgh State     8-3 13-5
Oswego State          8-3 12-6
Cortland State         7-4 14-4
Buffalo State           7-5 11-7
Geneseo State         6-5 10-8
Brockport State       6-5 9-9
Oneonta State         6-5 9-9
New Paltz State       6-5 8-10
Potsdam State         1-10 2-15
Fredonia State         1-11 2-15
             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2015, 09:39:32 PM
One other non-conference final from last night.

Elmira College 62 Fredonia 56

Fredonia finishes their out of conference games with another loss and fails to win a non-conference game against a division 3 school. They fall to 2-16 and will be hard pressed to win another game this season. Tough year for the Blue Devils. The good news is with all the young talent on the team they can only improve and should have a much better season next year. We've all been there when our favorite schools have a down year. Keep the faith Blue Devil fans.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 05, 2015, 07:11:05 PM
Nice tribute to Stan Cohen from Dallas Mavs Coach Rick Carlisle in today's Watertown Times.   

During his 42 years as a Potsdam assistant the Bears won 696 games, as a head men's & women's coach at SUNY Canton recorded an additional 326 wins in his own right.  His coaching career spanned 57 years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2015, 10:18:11 PM
Here's the link to the article that the bear was referring to in the Watertown Daily Times concerning the comments by Mav's coach Rick Carlisle:

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20150205/OGD/150209199

And here's a link to the obituary in the Times that shows the calling hours.

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20150205/OBIT/150209141/1022
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
All ten teams in action today with 5:30 start times.

Plattsburgh State  at  Oneonta State      5:30 PM

Cardinals travel south with revenge on their minds to reverse an overtime setback in Plattsburgh. I promised Zach Mager and Frankie Kelly right after that December 6th encounter that we'd get some payback tonight. Plattsburgh has won 4 of their last 5 conference games to take over the lead in the YAC. They are 3-1 on the road but now have 5 in a row away from home (who in hell made out this schedule?) before finishing up with 2 home games. Oneonta with wins in 3 of their last 4 games is one of 4 teams tied for 5th place with a 6-5 YAC record. Only a 2nd overtime loss to Oswego prevents a 4 game win streak. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 4 point favorite in this one. I'm taking the Cardinals to split the season series by leaving Dewar Arena with an 83-77 victory.     
   
Potsdam State  at  New Paltz State      5:30 PM

The Bears could pull off an upset here if they play as good as they did against Buffalo State last weekend. The Hawks, after a big upset of Oswego, fell back down to earth with consecutive home losses in their last 2 games. They are now one of those 4 teams tied with a 6-5 record. A loss here to the lowly Bears could cripple their chances for a playoff spot. Potsdam with virtually no hope for a playoff position can play the spoiler here and will certainly try to do so. The point spread shows the Hawks as a double digit 10 point home favorite. I don't think the Bears can win on the road again and look for New Paltz to win this one by a 75-64 final score. But I hope I'm wrong.     
   
Geneseo State  at  Brockport State      5:30 PM  Co-Featured game of the Night

I think the Knights let one get away the last time these 2 hooked up in Geneseo just a week ago. Brockport overcame a 12 point 2nd half deficit to win by a narrow 71-68 margin. The Golden Eagles had won 3 in a row before dropping a game to Cortland on Tuesday night. That loss, coupled with Geneseo's big win over Oswego, left both teams with a 6-5 record and are the other two teams tied for that 5th place logjam. Brockport has won the last 5 meetings between these clubs and 10 of the past 11 so the Knights have to be feeling some pressure here. It will be tough to go into Tuttle North and scratch out a win. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a slim 1 point favorite which means it's a tossup.  Both teams need this game in the worst way and I think that Brockport will prevail as they hold home court. They might need overtime to get it done though. Brockport wins this one 74-72.   


   
Cortland State  at  Buffalo State      5:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Night

Cortland is currently in 3rd place in the YAC but that tenuous position is up for grabs tonight as the 4th place Bengals look to avenge an early season loss to the Red Dragons. Both teams have been hot as Cortland has went 6-1 since their 3 game losing streak back in early January. They are also 5-1 in their past 6 conference games. Buff State is a different team with Chris Cartwright back on board. With Rod Epps, Chris Thompson and Larry Rivers also solid scoring options it's hard to shut down their high powered offense. Jordan Glover, their 2nd best 3 point shooter will probably be questionable for the game tonight. The Bengals have went  10-3 overall and 7-3 in the YAC since Cartwright's return. A possibility of a first round bye in the YAC tournament is still within their reach. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 2 point favorite over the Bengals, but I think that Buffalo State will win this game and split the season series with Cortland. Final score will be Buffalo State 84-76   


Oswego State  at  Fredonia State      5:30 PM

The Lakers now have some company at the top of the standings and will need to take care of business tonight against the Blue Devils. Fredonia, like Potsdam, is playing for pride and they hope to spring an upset or two before the season is over. That won't happen tonight even though they gave the Lakers a good score in Oswego back in December when they nearly did pull off the upset, only losing 63-62. The Lakers won't be taking them so lightly tonight. The pointspread has Oswego listed as a 13 point favorite and that may be about right. Oswego takes this one 75-60.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2015, 06:17:50 PM
Halftime scores:

Plattsburgh leads Oneonta 41-36 Jordan Moody with 12 points on 5x7 shooting with a pair of trifectas. Kyle Richardson also with a pair of triples and some big rebounds has 9 points off the bench. Lawrence Coleman leads Oneonta with 14 points on 4x7 shooting. Jackson Zuvic and Frankie Kelly with 5 points each.   

Geneseo is on top of Brockport by a 39-31 score.  Andy Drescher with 15 points and Gordon Lyons with 9. Aaron White with 8 points to lead Brockport. Mike Gallagher and Patrick Modzelewski with 6 each.

Oswego in front of Fredonia 36-24.  Brian Sortino with 13 points and Kyle Covely with 10 for Oswego. Alexander Grace and Ian Helps with 6 each for the Blue Devils

Buffalo State leads Cortland  32-24 at the break. Lovell Smith with 12 points and Rod Epps with 12 to pace the Bengals. Blair Estarfaa with 7 points and Shayne Martinez with 6 for Cortland

New Platz leads Potsdam by a 26-17 score with less than a minute left in the half. Taylor Sowah with 9 points for New Paltz. Rishawd Hendricks with 11 for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2015, 07:57:51 PM
Final scores

Plattsburgh State 74  Oneonta State 71
Had the Cards winning by 6 in this one and twice they allowed Oneonta to come back from sizable leads. Plattsburgh trailed by 4 late and got help from some critical Red Dragon turnovers.

Buffalo State 60  Cortland State 54   
Correctly picked the mild upset here as the Bengals held on for the win. Points scored was surprisingly low for a Bengals game. Had Buff State winning by 8, and they should have. 

New Paltz State 64  Potsdam 52 
Both teams scored about 10-12 less than I thought they would. Had the MOV fairly close though as I said it would be an 11 point difference, 75-64 

Oswego State 65  Fredonia 53 
I had the Lakers winning 75-60 so they were close to the 15 points I thought they would win by.

Geneseo State  76  Brockport State  62

Only game I was wrong about and I had a feeling that Geneseo would win this one to split the season series. But the Brockport-Geneseo history was so strongly in Brockport's favor I got swayed by that.     

4-1 with my picks today losing only the Brockport-Geneseo game.  Point totals were relatively low today in most of the games. I'm blaming it on the cold weather. It takes the air out of the ball. (Isn't that what Belichick said)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2015, 09:13:26 PM
Final Score

Plattsburgh 74 Oneonta 71  Cardinals down 71-67 with only 43 seconds left get a big 3 pointer from Mike Mitchell and a pair of free throws from Jordan Moody after a Red Dragon turnover to go in front 72-71. Oneonta misses a 3 pointer on their possession and the Cardinals get the rebound and Moody goes to the line for a 1&1. He makes them both to up the lead to 3 and after another Oneonta time out, the Red Dragons fail to get a shot off as they commit another turnover with three tenths of a second on the clock. Cards inbound for the win.

I called this an 83-77 Plattsburgh win and the teams were well on their way to post those numbers when the score was 46-44 with over 16 minutes left in the game. Much like the first half, Plattsburgh opened up a lead of 9 points at 55-46 on another 9-0 run (they were up by 13 in the first half). Tied at 46, Reggie Williams scored inside, Mike Mitchell drained a three pointer, and Jordan Moody reeled off 4 straight points. Only this time the Red Dragons came all the way back and took the lead, 64-63, on a Mikey McElroy layup with 4:48 to go. All of a sudden this game had a serious deja vu feel to it, as it looked like a replay of what took place in Plattsburgh 2 months earlier. Oneonta went up by 3 on a pair of Jackson Zuvic free throws but back to back Cardinal baskets by Moody and Shamoy McIntosh put Plattsburgh back in front 67-66 with just under 3 minutes left to play. Oneonta's McElroy was fouled at the other end and made a pair of free throws and after a Plattsburgh turnover Oneonta looked to expand their lead. They missed a three pointer and got the rebound, missed a layup and the ball went out of bounds off the Cardinals. Third time's a charm and this time the Red Dragons made the Cardinals pay as Kelly drove to the basket, dished to Zuvic, who swished a jumper to make it a 70-67 lead with 1:09 to play. The Cardinals called time out and tried to set up for a game tying triple but they missed and Oneonta came away with the rebound. Lawrence Coleman was fouled and hit 1 of 2 to make it a 4 point lead with 43 seconds left and I was praying for overtime. 7 seconds later I had a chance that my prayer would be answered as Mike Mitchell hit that big 3 pointer, his 4th one of the game, that set the stage for the dramatic finish. 

Jordan Moody, the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week, once again came up huge for the Cardinals as he led all scorers with a game high 24 points. Jordan was 7x13 from the field with a pair of long range bombs and was 8 of 11 from the line.

Kyle Richardson, again, came in and gave the team a big lift when he hit a pair of threes midway through the first half. He finished with 12 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals and a block in 24 minutes on the court.

Point guard Mike Mitchell also fired in 12 points all on 4 long distance shots, and none bigger than the one with 36 seconds left in the game. Mike was 4x6 from the field with 3 assists and a steal. (I swear he had more assists than that)

Reggie Williams was the leading rebounder in the game with 8 boards. he had 9 points, 2 assists and a block.

The Cardinals Eddie Correa started the game but was forced to leave after only 3 minutes and did not return. Not happy to lose one of the premier 3 point shooters in the YAC so early and certainly hope it's nothing serious.

Oneonta was led by Lawrence Coleman with 17 points and 5 rebounds. Jackson Zuvoc had 15 points and 3 rebounds while Mikey McElroy dropped in 14 points and grabbed 6 boards.

The last time Oneonta played Plattsburgh in December and won in overtime, the trio of Zach Mager (31) Frankie Kelly (18) and Jack Dignan (15) scored a total of 64 points. Today they scored 18 between them. I warned those guys we'd get some payback when we went down there.  ;D

Plattsburgh improves to 14-5 overall and 9-3 in the conference. They remain tied for 1st place with Oswego and will be at New Paltz tomorrow afternoon at 2 PM.

Oneonta drops to 9-10 overall and 6-6 in the YAC. They are now tied with Brockport for 7th place but with Potsdam coming to town tomorrow at 2 PM and Brockport off until next Tuesday they could move into sole possession of that spot with a win to go to 7-6. The Red Dragons really need Plattsburgh to beat New Paltz tomorrow and that would leave the Hawks with the same 7-6 record. Then Oneonta would be in sole possession of 6th place since they own the tiebreaker over New Paltz with a season sweep.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2015, 06:00:33 AM
Only eight teams in action today as travel partners Brockport and Geneseo have the day off. 4 games on tap all at 2 PM


Plattsburgh State     at  New Paltz State        2:00 PM

The Cardinals are hoping they might be in first place all alone at the end of the day. They need a win here and some help from Buffalo State which I was guaranteed they would provide. New Paltz with a win and some help could find themselves alone in 3rd place at day's end. Plattsburgh won the earlier matchup but the Hawks have already pulled off 4 big upsets this season and would love nothing more than to ground the Cardinals here. The Plattsburgh upperclassmen remember that just 2 years ago the Cardinals surrendered an 8 point lead in the final 2:30 to lose to the Hawks 75-72 and it cost them a chance for the top seed in the playoffs. Hopefully the Cardinals got a good night's sleep after a hard fought game yesterday against Oneonta. The Hawks were not pushed all that hard in their win over the Bears and should be the fresher team. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a solid 8 point favorite over the home team. The Cards will probably be a man short as 3 point specialist Eddie Correa is doubtful for today's game. That just means that Kyle Richardson, Mike Mitchell, Shamoy McIntosh, Ezra Hodgson or Jordan Moody will have to fill that role. All five players and several others are all capable of lighting it up from long distance. At times this year the Cardinals have lived and died by the 3 ball. I think they live a little today. Cardinals stay hot and win by a 76-66 final score.
     
Oswego State  at  Buffalo State        2:00 PM   SUNYAC Game of the Week

The Bengals are slowly but surely picking teams off one by one, as they climb up the rungs of the conference ladder. Just a few short weeks ago they were in 8th place with a 1-4 mark in the YAC.  Now they sit all alone in 3rd place and a win today can go a long way toward that goal of getting a first round bye. The Bengals will be hard pressed to win the top spot since they would need to win out and Plattsburgh would need to lose 3 of their remaining 6 games since the Cardinals hold the tiebreaker over the Bengals. But stranger things have happened and for now the Boys from the Queen City have the Lakers squarely in their crosshairs as they hope to move further up the ladder. Oswego has lost 2 of their last 4 games and despite a blow out 27 point win over the Bengals back in December the oddsmakers have made Buffalo State a slim 1 point favorite. The men that make the odds must have also heard that Chris Cartwright was back in town which gives Rod Epps and company another go to guy that must be defended. This Bengals team should give the Lakers all they can handle and I think this one will go down to the wire. I'm taking Buffalo State to win 78-75.         

   
Cortland State  at  Fredonia State        2:00 PM

Cortland will look to get well against the Blue Devils after they lost to Buff State and fell from 3rd place into a 3 way tie for
the 4th spot. Fredonia is hoping to get that 2nd conference win and leave the basement all alone to Potsdam. The point spread shows the home team to be a 14 point underdog, which is fairly consistent with the average MOV that the visiting team has enjoyed in Steele Hall this season. Cortland gets healthy and wins by a 72-61 final score.

 
Potsdam State        Oneonta State        2:00 PM

Oneonta will look to get well against the Bears after they lost to Plattsburgh and....this sounds very familiar for some reason. These Red Dragons are hoping they can get back into a playoff position by the end of the day. Tied with Brockport for 7th place, a win, coupled with a New Paltz loss, would most likely leave them in 6th place all by themselves. The Bears hung with Oneonta when they traveled to Potsdam but I think the Red Dragons just have too many scoring options for the Bears to deal with. So do the oddsmakers who have installed Oneonta as 14 point favorites. Potsdam's best hope is to take some air out of the ball and use as much clock as they can. They won't win a track meet with Mager, Kelly and Co. They won't win with a slowdown style either, but the loss won't be as painful. Oneonta will score 80+ points, the Bears will struggle to get to 60.  Final score Oneonta 83 Potsdam 59. Hope I'm wrong though.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 07, 2015, 09:39:50 AM
Magicman......my apology for my error made on the Little East pick them board.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2015, 03:09:42 PM
New Paltz 37 Plattsburgh 27 at the half

Plattsburgh looks like they haven't woke up yet as they are getting out rebounded, outhustled, outshot nd have committed 11 turnovers already.

Taylor Sowah leads the Hawks with 8 points. A;ex Perlman and Andrew Seniuk with 7 each

Shamoy Mcintosh is high man for the Cards with 9 points Jordan Moody with 7 and Kyle Rchardson with 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2015, 03:13:36 PM
Updates of today's action.

Oneonta and Potsdam are tied at 51 each with 12:28 left in the game.

Oswego leads Buff State 66-62 with 10:06 to go

Cortland doubling up Fredonia 67-31 with 10 minutes left to play.

New Paltz running away from Plattsburgh 49-35 with 12:33 remaining. Can't watch any more of this one. :P :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2015, 03:32:02 PM
Updates:

Buffalo State 75 Oswego 74  1:28 left in the game. C'mon Bengals!!

Cortland  83   Fredonia 47  1:36 remaining.

Oneonta 70 Potsdam 61 4:15 to go

New Paltz 63 Plattsburgh 48 4:29 to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2015, 04:39:30 PM
Buffalo State 80 Oswego 76.

After Oswego's Walter Sampson hit a pair of free throws to tie the game up at 76 with 1:09 remaining, the Bengals Chris Cartwright drove to the hoop and scored on a nifty layup to give the Bengals the lead with 39 seconds left. The Lakers came down and turned the ball over with 19 seconds left and then fouled to put the Bengals at the line for a 1&1. Buff State missed the front end however and the Lakers were back in business....or so they thought. The Bengal's Rod Epps stole the ball and was fouled with 8 seconds to play and calmly dropped both free throws through to make it a 2 possession game. That turned out to be the final score.

Rod Epps was the top point producer for the Bengals with 20 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and that all important steal near the end of the game. Thanks Rod that makes up for that extra trip to the Sub Shop I made to get your lunch last Friday when you were visiting Plattsburgh. 8-) ;D

Jordan Glover was back in action and came off the bench to hit 4 of 7 from long distance to total 16 points. He added 6 rebounds 3 assists and a steal. Lovell Smith had 15 points with 4 rebounds, and Chris Thompson had 13 points with 5 rebounds.

Chris Cartwright had the go ahead basket among his 11 points and added 9 assists and 3 rebounds. Guard Derrick Fernandez only scored 3 points, but had 5 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal.

Oswego got 22 points from Brian Sortino, who captured the game's scoring honors. Sortino also had 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. Walter Sampson was close behind with 18 points, 3 assists and 3 steals. Mark Candelario had 11 points and was the game's high rebounder with 7 boards.

The Bengals shot 61.5% from the field (32x52) and 50% from downtown (8x16) and that proved to be the difference as Oswego only shot 41.4% (29x70) and 33.3% from long range (6x18). The Bengals had twice as many turnovers as the Lakers...16 to 8 which helped keep Oswego in the game. Buff State enjoyed a slight edge off the boards with a 35-33 advantage.

The Bengals defeat of Oswego, coupled with Plattsburgh's loss to New Paltz didn't change the conference leaders but it did bring them back to the pack a little more.

Buffalo State remains solidly in 3rd place by themselves for the time being. They improve to 13-7 overall and 9-5 in the YAC. They will host Geneseo State on Tuesday night at 5:30 in another key game that will impact the standings.

Oswego stays tied with Plattsburgh in first place, each with a 9-4 record in the conference. The Lakers are now 13-7 overall. They host New Paltz on Tuesday evening also at 5:30       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2015, 08:13:09 PM
New Paltz State 69 Plattsburgh State 55

This game was not pretty to watch and was downright sad if you were a Plattsburgh State backer. I guess the long trip downstate took too much out of the Cardinals because they just didn't look like the team I'm used to seeing. New paltz took it to them from the opening tip off and whenever Plattsburgh would make any kind of move the Hawks were there to combat it. I kept waiting for the run that the Cardinals usually unleash to turn things around but it never materialized. The Hawks got the loose balls, they got the putbacks, and had way too many easy baskets because of defensive lapses. If the Cardinals play like that again they will play themselves right into a short post season. Fortunately for Plattsburgh, Buffalo State did us a favor and defeated Oswego which kept the Cardinals in a first place tie with the Lakers. Still, what might have been...alone at the top...could come back to haunt the Cards later on. It's the 2nd time in 3 years that the underdog Hawks have derailed the Plattsburgh express.

The Hawks, except for a brief moment when the score was tied at 5-5, led the entire game. And usually the lead was between 6 and 12 points. It reached double figures in the opening period for the first time on a pair of Taylor Sowah free throws to make it 24-14 with 8:36 left to play. The Cards cut the lead in half but The Hawks came back to lead by 10 at the break. 

Plattsburgh opened the 2nd half with an inside move by Reggie Williams and a 3 pointer by Jordan Moody to make it a two possession game. The Hawks responded with their own layup and 3 pointer both off the hands of RJ Rosa. But Rosa wasn't finished as he added another 3 pointer and when Alex Perlman scored inside the lead had ballooned to 15 and I knew that this game was in serious jeopardy. The Hawks came to play and it looked like the Cards wanted to go home. Plattsburgh cut the lead to 9 points twice in the 2nd half but for most of the remainder of the game the Hawks were well in command.

The Hawks' RJ Rosa led all scorers as he had 17 points, 5 rebounds and 8 steals. Taylor Sowah had a double double of 13 points and 10 rebounds. He also had 3 assists, 2 steals and a block. Andrew Seniuk had 12 points and 5 rebounds. Alex Perlman also hit double figures with 11 points. Eric Regenbogen came off the bench to score 8 points, grab 5 rebounds, with 3 assists and 2 steals.

New Paltz outshot the Cardinals from the field, from long range and from the line. They had a slight 40-38 edge off the glass and had 19 turnovers to 20 for Plattsburgh.

Plattsburgh got 16 points from Shamoy McIntosh, who added 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a pair of steals. Kyle Richardson was close to a double double as he scored 10 points and had 8 rebounds in just 23 minutes off the bench. Jordan Moody had 10 points, 3 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and 2 steals. Reggie Williams shared rebounding honors with Sowah as he also grabbed 10 boards. He added 4 points, 2 blocks, 2 steals and 2 assists.

New Paltz slips into a tie for 4th place with Cortland as they improve their conference mark to 8-5. The Hawks overall record now stands at 10-10. Tuesday they travel to Oswego to face the Lakers who will be looking for some revenge.

The Cardinals can't stand prosperity as they follow up a nice conference win, with a perplexing loss for the 4th time in 6 weekends of SUNYAC action. They fall to 14-6 overall and still control their own destiny in the YAC as they remain tied with Oswego for the lead with a 9-4 conference mark.

Plattsburgh will be off until next weekend when they go back on the road to play Cortland on Friday and the Lakers on Saturday. Could be the most important 2 games of the SUNYAC season....at least until the next weekend!! :D             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2015, 08:15:13 PM
Other final scores:

Cortland 88 Fredonia 53

Oneonta 82 Potsdam 67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 07, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
Magicman, I'm glad that my Bengals made you happy today. They sure made my day! The ability of this team to be able to have different folks step up each night is scary.  Today Rod Epps led the way with 20 pts and Jordan Glover comes off the bench with 16 .  Cartwright adds 9 assist!  Yesterday Lovell Smith leads the way 16 pts and 10 rebounds, Cartwright adds 14 pts and Chris Thompson does his usual double double (10 pts/13 boards).

It has been an interesting journey, to say the least.  Not sure what exactly the catalyst is but Chris Cartwright is in their somewhere.  I can't remember the last time a player was in the top 3 in scoring, assists, assists to turnover ratio, 3 Ptrs per game and free throw %.  ToP 3 in each. Unselfish and can score.  Maybe it's been Jordan Glover.  When this kid is healthy the Bengals are a complete team. It's too bad that he has missed 4/5 Yac contests or else he would be a all sunyac sure bet. Hmm maybe it's Chris Thompson who has finally become the force in the middle that many Bengal followers have been expecting from day 1. I'm convinced that his best is yet to come! Could it be the Bengals version of the "energizer bunny" Lovell Smith. This kid has got to be the most unassuming ball player that I have ever seen. Quiet and goes about his business like its the last game he will ever play.  He consistently gives up 3/4 inches to bigger folks and yet out rebounds most game in and game out! I have no doubt that a consistent Rod Epps has been a main contributor to the Bengals consistency. At any point in a game he, Cartwright, Glover,Smith or Thompson can put this team on their shoulders and carry them.  I haven't seen a Bengal flow like this in years !

Fortunately coach Ansari has developed a supporting cast that has stepped in when called and performed admirably.  Derrick Fernandez and Larry Rivers have been the consummate role players that any team needs to be successful. Ditto for Rey Jordan, Kevin Marmalejos, Leon Moise, Akeem Williams, Luke Jenkins, Sean Buckley, Mike Henry and Justin Best who all continue to fill in when called.

I hope that these boys stay hungry.  God knows that these 2 wins this weekend are just that, 2 wins. No more.....no less.  I'm hoping the best for these kids. They deserve it.

Go Bengals!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 08, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
A coach from another conference made a comment to me last night about how "your" Sunyac "conference is really down this year". ???  I say that I was surprised is an understatement. I told him that "I think that. from top to bottom. the SUNYAC is the toughest conference in the east, by a long shot" ( he was a coach from the Liberty League). I took the Buffalo State non- conference record as proof. True that the BENGALS non conference east record is not not stellar, but look at the Competition. The fact that every night we play each other tough each night means that there are no cupcakes in the 'Yac.

True my Bengals lost to Hobart. THen Hobart lost to Brockport (currently in 7th place in the SUNYAC). Right now Hobart is in first place in the Liberty league tied with Clarkson who they split with and Hobart swept #2 Skidmore in their season series). My Bengals also lost to St John Fisher (#24 in NCAA right now at 18-2). Fisher lost to, (Current SUNYAC #6), Geneseo (neutral Floor) and they lost to AMCC #2 Medaille ( who lost to my BENGALS, Cortland and Geneseo).

Look at any 'Yac non conference schedule and you will see team like Williams college, Middlebury, Eastern Conn & Morrisville. All NCAA participants last year.  No cupcake schedules for our teams. Tough competition is the norm. Last years success has no doubt, gotten us a lot of attention and makes other teams bring their "A" game when they face a SUNYAC team. My BENGALS non - conference East record is 3 games vs the #1 Liberty League team, #1 Empire 8 team and the #2 Amcc team. Similar 'Yac teams also have similar Eastern region records.

Last year I succesfully predicted 3 NCAA births. I'm doing the same this year. We beat up on each other but when we step outside of our confernce, the "Yac is 1 tough cookie. Heck our Conference resembles another that has some real tough teams in it. (look familiar?)

Virginia           9-1   .900   21-1   
Notre Dame   9-3   .750   21-4   
North Carolina   8-3   .727   18-6   
Duke           7-3   .700   20-3   
Louisville           7-3   .700   19-4
Syracuse           6-4   .600   15-8   
Clemson           6-4   .600   14-8   
Pitt                   5-5   .500   16-8   
NC State           5-6   .455   14-10   
Florida State   5-6   .455   13-11
Miami           4-5   .444   14-8   

Anyone wanna tell me that the ACC is a 1 team league?

Go Sunyac

and

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 08, 2015, 01:07:29 PM
SUNYAC looking like its getting really tight. Oswego and Plattsburgh still tied at the top. Hopefully Oswego can win the home game against Plattsburgh. Many teams are within striking distance of two teams tied at first. About 6-7 teams who can win the conference. Going to get interesting
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 09, 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Maybe a little off topic for this board Magicman.....were you at the WBB game between Bowdoin vs Middibury in Pepin Gym on Sunday afternoon.
Thought I saw Coach Curle in the stands and a man with a women sitting behind the Coach wearing a bright Red Sweatshirt...Cardinal colors!
Thought about giving you a call...afraid ou were out pushing snow. Around :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2015, 09:02:09 PM
Quote from: amh63 on February 09, 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Maybe a little off topic for this board Magicman.....were you at the WBB game between Bowdoin vs Middibury in Pepin Gym on Sunday afternoon.
Thought I saw Coach Curle in the stands and a man with a women sitting behind the Coach wearing a bright Red Sweatshirt...Cardinal colors!
Thought about giving you a call...afraid you were out pushing snow. Around :)

amh63,
You were right, Coach Curle was there, along with his wife and other daughter. I wanted to go but the snow storm kept me home. I pushed snow around, then watched the game online and plowed more snow afterward. Happy that Bowdoin won...unhappy that Ms. Curle did not get to the free throw line. I believe she may drop off the NCAA Free Throw Percentage list because she no longer has 2.5 made free throws per game. :(

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2015, 12:07:01 AM
    It's Tuesday and some good games are on tap.  No predictions here ( that's magicians specialty) however its hard to ignore how close the conference is with 5/6 games left.

    New Paltz vs Oswego, with New Paltz winning the first 1 and upsetting Plattsburgh last week, New Paltz must be feeling good. A win by New Paltz would tie them with Oswego. Oneonta  vs Cortland with Oneonta winning the first matchup. A win by Oneonta would tie them with Cortland. Buffalo state vs Geneseo. No matter who wins they won't be tied but a close race could actually get CLOSER tomorrow night!
 
    Plattsburgh finishes with Brockport, Cortland, Geneseo, Oswego and Potsdam. No easy road by any means. Oswego has 2 of the same , Cortland, Geneseo along with New Paltz, Potsdam and Plattsburgh. Both Plattsburgh and Oswego are the only 2 that can finish 14-4 so they are definilty the front runners as we speak. That road is definitely not easy for either, but both Plattsburgh and Oswego have shown that they can rise to the occasion when needed. 4 teams with 5 losses and 2 with 6 losses lurking close behind. Talk about controlling your own destiny!

    I used to wonder why magician goes to his favorite place and tunes in 3/4 computers to watch Sunyac basketball.  Now I know! Gonna be checking live stats myself tomorrow !  Gotta love  this stuff. It's what makes college basketball the greatest game on earth.

    13 wins may get you home court for the playoffs.  12 wins should get you in the playoffs.  And 11 wins may possibly have you at home watching. If this ain't gut wrenching then there's no snow in Plattsburgh!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 01:12:28 AM
Snow...Snow...We ain't got no stinking snow!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 06:07:14 AM
Four games on tap today all starting at 5:30 PM

New Paltz State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM

Geneseo State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM

Brockport State  at  Fredonia State        5:30 PM
   
Oneonta State  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 10, 2015, 08:32:17 AM
Huge night for the SUNYAC with big games for Oswego and New Paltz along with Geneseo/ Buff State and Oneonta and Cortland. Brockport cant afford to lose tonight at Fredonia if they want to stay in the mix and i dont think they will.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2015, 03:56:11 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2015, 01:12:28 AM
Snow...Snow...We ain't got no stinking snow!!!

Well then your grass has a chlorophyll problem.  :-*
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 05:34:27 PM
Four games on tap today all starting at 5:30 PM

New Paltz State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM

The Hawks are looking to sweep the Lakers which could vault them into a 2nd place tie if Buff State falls to Geneseo. Lakers let one get away the last time they met. Oswego has lost 3 of their last 5 conference games, the Hawks have won 3 of their last 5. Point spread favors the Lakers by a 6 point margin. I think they win be a few more. I'll take the Lakers by a 74-66 final...but I hope I'm wrong about this one.
 

Geneseo State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM    The Game of the Day

The Bengals and Knights are 2 of the 4 teams with 5 losses. Somebody goes home with loss #6 tonight. Buff State won a squeaker 87-86 at Geneseo last month and the Knights need a win here to keep alive their hopes of a bye in the YAC tournament. The same can be said for the Bengals. The odddsmakers predict another tight contest with the Bengals listed as a 2 point favorite. Buffalo State has went 9-2 in their last 11 conference games and both those losses have been against Plattsburgh. If Buffalo State can keep Gordon Lyons under wraps they should win this one but that's not an easy thing to do. Still I like the Bengals' guard play to win out over Mr. Double Double Lyons. Bengals' guard Rod Epps had 30 points and forward Chris Thompson had 27 the last time these teams met. I think Chris Cartwright and Jordan Glover (who missed the last meeting) may be a big factor tonight. I'll go with the hot team and take the Bengals to walk off with a 83-77 victory here.

 

Brockport State  at  Fredonia State        5:30 PM

The Golden Eagles need a win here and some help from other sources to get back into a playoff position. Currently all alone in 8th place they could move up 1 spot if they win tonight and Oneonta loses to Cortland. Then with 3 straight home games coming up they stand a chance of climbing even further up the ladder. The point spread has them winning this game by a 10 point margin and they should cover that spread. I see a final score of 75-62 in favor of Brockport.
 
   
Oneonta State  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM

The Battle of the Red Dragons Round Two. A win by Oneonta would pull them even with Cortland with identical 8-6 records and Oneonta, by virtue of the season sweep, would hold that all important tie breaker. Cortland struggled against Oneonta in the 2nd half of their earlier matchup as Zach Mager (19) and Mikey McElroy (16) combined for 35 2nd half points and outscored the Cortland team (31 2nd half points) all by themselves. I don't think that will happen this time around and nother do the oddsmakers who have installed Cortland as a 6 point home favorite. While I don't think Oneonta will bury Cortland like they did 11 days ago, I do think that Oneonta will win this game. It will be closer but Oneonta comes away with a crucial road win by a 73-70 final.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 06:20:40 PM
Halftime scores:

Cortland 36  Oneonta 33
Lamard Herron with 7 points and Justin Prendergast with 6 to lead Cortland

Lawrence Coleman with 9 points. Zach Mager and Jack Dignan with 6 each for Oneonta.



Buffalo State 43   Geneseo State 42
Rod Epps with 16 points to lead the Bengals. Lovell Smith with 12 points and 8 rebounds. Jordan Glover with 9 points

Gordon Lyons with 20 points at the break to lead the Knights. Also has a team high 6 rebounds. James McKenna with 11 points and Andy Drescher with 9.


Oswego all over New Paltz 39-23 at the half
Alex Rawa leads the Lakers with 12 points. Kyle Covely and Walter Sampson both have 6 points.

Alex Perlman with 10 points is high man for the Hawks. Taylor Sowah has 7.


Brockport 38 Fredonia 35 at the half.

Patrick Modzelewski with 10 points and Clifton Lyerly with 8 for the Golden Eagles.

Kyree Hull with 7 points and Tommie Banks with 6 points for Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 07:05:02 PM
Final score

Oswego State 71 New Paltz State 47
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 07:08:37 PM
Final score

Oneonta State 72  Cortland State 67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 07:13:10 PM
Crunch time in Buffalo as Geneseo leads the Bengals 75-72 with 40 seconds left to play. Bengals with the ball take a timeout

Bengals' Cartwright drives to the hoop and misses. Knights' Andy Drescher with the rebound and gets fouled. He makes 1 of 2 to make it a 2 possession game. Bengals misfire again and foul Jack Eisenberg who makes them both.

Bengals come down and miss a 3 pointer, get the rebound and miss a lay up. Gordon Lyons gets fouled with 7 seconds left and it really doesn't matter when he misses them both as this game is history. Bengals miss a 3 at the buzzer and the final score is

Geneseo State  78 Buffalo State 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 07:27:11 PM
Brockport in a much tougher battle than I anticipated as the Blue Devils have hung tough in this one and trail by an 82-79 score with 11 seconds left to play. That would be as close as they get however as the game goes final by that 82-79 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2015, 07:51:40 PM
Here is the SUNYAC standings after today's games:

Oswego State             10-4     14-7
Plattsburgh State         9-4      14-6
Geneseo State             8-5      12-8
Buffalo State               9-6      13-8
Oneonta State             8-6*    11-10
Cortland State             8-6      15-6 
New Paltz State          8-6       10-11
Brockport State          7-6       10-10
Potsdam State           1-12      2-17
Fredonia State           1-14      2-18

*Oneonta State holds the tiebreaker over Cortland and New Paltz by virtue of a season sweep of both teams. Technically they are in 5th place. Cortland and New Paltz are tied for 6th place. The have split their season series but New Paltz owns victories against Oswego, Plattsburgh and Geneseo. Cortland has wins over Plattsburgh and Geneseo. They will have to beat Oswego and Plattsburgh the next time they play them to gain the tiebreaker edge over New Paltz. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2015, 05:25:56 AM
New Paltz State 47  at  Oswego State 72
I had the Lakers winning by a 74-66 final score. I was close with the Oswego part but the Hawks didn't uphold their end of the contest.

The Lakers didn't waste any time as they put the Hawks away early. Up 9-5 with 14:49 left in the half, Oswego went on an 11-0 run fueled by a pair of Alex Rawa 3 pointers to open up a 20-5 lead and the Lakers were never threatened. They gradually extended their advantage until it reached a high of 29 points at 67-38 with 6:32 left in the game. Oswego emptied their bench and coasted home. Walter Sampson with 15, Brian Sortino with 13 and Alex Rawa with 12 points to lead Oswego.

Taylor Sowah with 15 points and 7 rebounds to lead the Hawks. Alex Perlman with 10 points and 5 boards.

The Lakers are back in first and temporarily are all alone as Plattsburgh State was idle tonight. Lakers with a 10-4 conference mark take on Potsdam Friday night before the big showdown on Saturday against Plattsburgh. I'm tempted to travel to Oswego and see this game but the last time I was in Oswego the wind coming off that lake literally blew the doors right off my car. Well one of them anyway. I haven't been back since and that was 1970.

New Paltz falls into a 3 way tie for 5th place with an 8-6 record. Up next is Geneseo and then Brockport on the road this weekend. Both of those teams will be looking for some revenge and the crystal ball thinks they both might get it. This could be a make or break weekend for New Paltz.
   

       

Geneseo State 78  at  Buffalo State 72
This was my only loss of the day as Geneseo took over this game in the closing moments and held off the Bengals. I had Buff State winning by an 83-77 score and wasn't far off with my totals but had the wrong team on top. Not surprised at the outcome though as Geneseo needed this game more than the Bengals did. The Knights finish with a tougher stretch than Buff State and a loss here could have proven fatal. 

This was a close game all the way from start to finish but in the 2nd half the Bengals looked like my Cardinals did against New Paltz last Saturday. Too many 3 point shots, too soon in the possession and many of them weren't real good looks...instead of making the extra pass to get a better shot. The team only made 7 field goals in the entire 2nd half and were just 2 for 13 from behind the arc. Tied at 60, the Knights scored 6 straight points to open up some daylight and the Bengals could never catch them.

Gordon Lyons had a monster of a game for the Knights with 33 points and 15 rebounds...his 19th double double in 20 games. Easy to see why he is the nation's #1 rebounder. James McKenna and Andy Drescher both had 13 points to back him up.

Rod Epps had another big game against the Knights with 24 points. Lovell Smith had a double double of his own with 15 points and 12 rebounds. Jordan Glover added 13 points and Chris Cartwright had 10.

Geneseo moves into sole possession of 3rd place at 8-5 and that's a heck of a lot better than the 7th place, a 7-6 mark  would have given them, had they lost. They host New Paltz and Oneonta this weekend and will be looking to move up even further in the standings.

Buffalo State has their 3 game YAC winning streak snapped but still are in playoff position. Their chances of winning the top seed took a hit but they can still earn a first round bye if they win their 3 remaining games and get a little help. They will only have 1 game this weekend when they face their travel partner Fredonia State on Friday evening.
     

Brockport State 82  at  Fredonia State 79
Brockport had to work hard for this one...harder than the 75-62 final I predicted. The Blue Devils have scored 62 or less points in 12 of their 20 games this year. I certainly didn't expect them to put up 79, their highest total of the year, against
the Golden Eagles. Still it wasn't enough to earn the win as the Eagles managed to create some space late in the game and go home with a W. The Blue Devils stayed with Brockport most of the way and even had a 63-62 lead with 6:41 left in the game. A 10 -2 run by Brockport, helped by back to back 3 pointers by Mike Gallagher, made it 72-65 with just under 4 minutes left. Fredonia did cut it to a one possession game at 76-73 with 1:29 left but the Golden Eagles went back up by 8 and the score was made more respectable by a pair of late 3 pointers from Fredonia's Kyree Hull.

Patrick Modzelewski was the game's high scorer as he led the Golden Eagles with 23 points. Clifton Lyerly had 18 for Brockport, while Levi Pace and Mike Gallagher both had 9 points.

Fredonia was led by Kyree Hull with 19 points and 6 rebounds. Ian Helps had 18 points and completed a double double with 11 rebounds. Max Pearce added 10 points.

Brockport needed this win to keep their playoff hopes alive. They are still in 8th place, but more importantly, are tied with the 4 teams directly ahead of them in the loss column. The Golden Eagles now have a conference record of 7-6 and with their next 3 games all at Tuttle North Gym they can take aim at a few of the teams in that logjam in front of them. They will start with Oneonta this Friday followed by New Paltz on Saturday afternoon. A pair of wins will put them solidly back into the playoff picture.

Fredonia will face Buff State on Friday evening still looking to pull off the big upset and have something to cheer about.             
   
Oneonta State 72 at  Cortland State 67

I almost nailed this game as I had the Oneonta Red Dragons winning by a 73-70 final score. Oneonta's Grant Massaroni had a pair of free throw attempts with 9 seconds left in the game and he made the first one and missed the second to give Oneonta a score of 72 instead of 73 (Thanks Grant :P).  Then after the miss Cortland who trailed by 5 points and with very little time left, raced downcourt and threw up a 3 pointer that was off the mark and Cortland ended up with 67 instead of the 70 I wanted. If I get the 2nd free throw and the final 3 pointer to go down it would have been the perfect ending.

This was another tight contest, especially in the 2nd half. Cortland had the early lead by as much as 11 points at 21-10 and later at 26-15. Still down by 10 points at 36-26 with 4 minutes to go in the half, Oneonta scored on 3 straight possessions to narrow the lead to 3 points at 36-33. Neither team could score for the final 2:20 of the period and that's how they went into the break.

The 2nd half was hotly contested from the outset as 7 lead changes and 6 ties would take place before Oneonta, down 63-61, would get a layup from Zach Mager to tie it up at 63 with 2:29 to go. After a Cortland misfire they got a layup from Frankie Kelly for the 8th and final lead change. After a pair of misses at the Cortland end, Oneonta went to the well again and got yet another drive to the hoop by Kelly and the ball hung on the rim for a brief second before falling through the net. Kelly was fouled on the play, made the free throw to put the visitors up by a 68-63 score with 40 seconds left, and that was the play that ultimately proved to be the backbreaker. Oneonta made 4 of 6 free throws and Cortland scored on a pair of hurried drives to the hoop in the final 35 seconds.

Zach Mager was the game's high scorer with 19 points and 4 rebounds. Frankie Kelly had 13 points and 6 assists. Lawrence Coleman had 11 points with 6 rebounds and Mikey McElroy had 9 points with 6 rebounds.

Cortland got 15 points from Blair Estarfaa, a double double from Justin Prendergast of 14 points and 10 rebounds, plus 10 points from Shane Martinez along with 5 boards.

The win gives Oneonta a leg up on Cortland since the series sweep is as good as an extra game. Both Red Dragons are sitting with an 8-6 conference log but the Oneonta variety has the hammer, with the tiebreaker firmly in hand. Oneonta also has the series sweep over New Paltz. Both of those teams need to finish with 1 more win than Oneonta if they hope to climb over those Red Dragons. I can see Oneonta with at least 10 YAC wins which means that Cortland or New Paltz will need 11 wins to get ahead of them. Not sure that will happen.

Oneonta is on the road this weekend at Brockport on Friday and Geneseo on Saturday.

Cortland gets Plattsburgh on Friday and Potsdam on Saturday.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 11, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/11/first-regional-rankings-released-today/ (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/11/first-regional-rankings-released-today/)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 11, 2015, 06:10:12 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 11, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/11/first-regional-rankings-released-today/ (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/11/first-regional-rankings-released-today/)

Thanks Dave!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2015, 06:55:06 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2015, 12:07:01 AM
    13 wins may get you home court for the playoffs.  12 wins should get you in the playoffs.  And 11 wins may possibly have you at home watching. If this ain't gut wrenching then there's no snow in Plattsburgh!!!!! ;)

Well Champ, you posted this before the Tuesday games took place and despite a few upsets and some home teams losing that night, not a heck of a lot has changed. I did some schedule crunching last night and with 3, 4, or 5 games left, depending on the team, it's possible that every one in the conference, except the bottom two clubs, can get to at least 11 wins. I don't think that it will happen but to even have eight teams, that could theoretically win that many games, this late in the season is pretty abnormal. Ever since the SUNYAC went to an 18 game schedule 6 years ago we have had either 4 or 5 teams reach double digits in wins each year, with the high water mark coming in 2011-12 when we had 5 teams reach at least 11 wins.

Here's how 8 teams could reach 11 wins this year.

1. Oswego currently has 10 wins. They beat Potsdam and reach 11

2. Plattsburgh currently has 9 wins. They beat Oswego and Potsdam and reach 11

3. Geneseo currently has 8 wins. They beat Plattsburgh, Potsdam, and Oswego to reach 11

4. Buffalo State currently has 9 wins. They beat Fredonia and New Paltz to reach 11

5. Cortland currently has 8 wins. They beat Potsdam, Plattsburgh, and Oswego to reach 11

6. Oneonta currently has 8 wins. They beat Fredonia, Buffalo State, and Geneseo to reach 11

7. New Paltz currently has 8 wins. They beat Fredonia, Brockport, and Geneseo to reach 11

8. Brockport currently has 7 wins. They beat Oneonta, Cortland, Plattsburgh and Potsdam to reach 11

I'm thinking that 5 teams hit double figures in the win column but only 3 teams get to 11 wins. The Conference leader will end up with a 13-5 record and it may be a tie between 2 teams  with a tiebreaker determining the top seed, much like what happened in 2009-10 when Oneonta and Plattsburgh tied for the top spot and the Cardinals won with a tiebreaker. I wouldn't mind if it was deja vu all over again, including how the conference tournament ended up that year. ;D   
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2015, 07:14:35 AM
A full slate of action today in the SUNYAC with all 10  teams in action. Tip off is 5:30 for each game.


Plattsburgh State  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM   The Game of the Day
The Cardinals will be looking for some revenge as they allowed the Red Dragons to come back from a 10 point 2nd half deficit and win an overtime battle in Plattsburgh last month. Cortland has dropped 2 of 3 conference games in the past 7 days and has slipped into a tie for 6th place in the standings. The oddsmakers have Cortland favored by a slim 2 point margin but I can't see the Red Dragons sweeping the Cardinals this year. It's payback time tonight as Plattsburgh wins this one 76-71.


New Paltz State  at  Geneseo State        5:30 PM
The Knights are looking to win a season high 4th straight win. They have battled their way back into sole possession of 3rd place with 3 consecutive conference wins. With 3 straight home games and only down 1 game in the loss column to the teams directly above them in the standings, the Knights still have hopes they can secure the top seed for the playoffs. They have games remaining against both Oswego and Plattsburgh so if they win out it's possible they can pull that off. It starts with tonight's game, however, against the Hawks, who won by double figures over the Knights a month ago in the Hawk Center. New Paltz got hammered by Oswego on Tuesday night and dropped them from 3rd place into a tie for 6th. Another loss tonight and they could be in 8th place heading into tomorrow. The point spread favors the home team Knights by a 7 point margin. The Hawks have been the surprise team in the YAC this year and need to go at least 2-2 in their final four games to get into the playoffs. I'm not sure they can do that. I'll take the Knights in this game by a 74-65 final.

 
Oneonta State     at  Brockport State        5:30 PM
Oneonta has went 5-2 in their last 7 conference games with the losses coming against Oswego in overtime and Plattsburgh in a barnburner. They currently sit in 5th place by virtue of tiebreakers they own and securing a home game in the playoffs is their next step. Brockport is looking to achieve the same thing and a win tonight would give them a season sweep over Oneonta and a leg up on these Red Dragons. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a slim 1 point road favorite in this one, despite the fact that the Red Dragons have lost 6 games in a row to Brockport. They also haven't won in Brockport since January 30th, 2009. I think both of those streaks will end tonight as Oneonta wins a close one and comes away with a 72- 69 victory.


Fredonia State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM
The Bengals had a reversal of fortune Tuesday night and lost a game that would have put them in good position for a home playoff game or even better a first round bye. Both of these goals are still an option but a first round bye will require some help. They can't take their travel partner lightly though, as the Blue Devils proved Tuesday against Brockport, when they almost knocked off the Golden Eagles. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 14 point favorite but I think they could win by 20. Bengals 87 Fredonia 67.

   
Potsdam State     at  Oswego State        5:30 PM
The Bears still hoping for that season highlight but it will be tough getting it on the road against the conference leaders. Still the Lakers are capable of delivering a stinker (see Elmira, Loras,) and Potsdam has got nothing to lose. The spread is the largest of the day as the oddsmakers think the Lakers will win by 18 points. Potsdam hasn't been close on the road all season other than their win at Fredonia. Everything else has been a double digit loss. It should be more of the same tonight as the Lakers win this one 80-61. Sure hope I'm wrong though and the big upset happens.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on February 13, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
Does Plattsburgh ever lose in your predictions?  ;D Magicman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2015, 11:01:34 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on February 13, 2015, 10:35:10 AM
Does Plattsburgh ever lose in your predictions?  ;D Magicman

There have been a few occasions where I have picked them to lose...very few. ;) Just not this year.

I like my Cardinals this year Derek. I have seen most of the top ranked teams in the country play this season, many of them on multiple occasions. There is a lot of parity in Division III this year and I haven't seen any team that is clearly a cut above the rest. I've yet to see a team that my Cardinals can't beat when they play the way I know they can. That doesn't mean they will win them all because they can throw a clunker in there with the best of them, and they already have. So this year I will probably pick them every game they play. I expect them to have a tough game today and tomorrow against the Lakers. Next weekend two more tough games are on tap. But I think that this year, they are the best team, top to bottom, in the SUNYAC. Funny thing, though, the best team doesn't always win and Plattsburgh may not be the SUNYAC champs this year. But if there was a place where you could go and place a wager on which team you thought would win the championship, I would be there, betting on the Cardinals. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2015, 06:08:43 PM
Halftime score:

Plattsburgh State 38 Cortland State 27

Xavier Thomas leads Plattsburgh with 10 points including 2 nice dunks. Shamoy McIntosh with 7 points and Ezra Hodgson with 6 on a pair of 3 pointers.

Lamard Herron with 8 points and Matt McGowan with 6 to lead the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2015, 06:16:13 PM
More halftime scores

Geneseo leads New Paltz 37 to 32 at the half.

James McKenna with 10 points and Andy Drescher with 9 for the Knights.

Taylor Sowah with 10 points for the Hawks. Also Eric Regenbogen with 8 and Kevin Roach with 7 for new Paltz.


Oswego over Potsdam 34-22 at the half.

Bears with an early 19-10 with 10 minutes left in the half but the Lakers only allowed 3 more points the rest of the way and no filed goals in the final 7 minutes. Lakers outscore the Bears 24-3 to jump in front by the 12 point margin.

Brian Sortino with 14 points and Walter Sampson with 9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2015, 06:20:29 PM
Brockport 22 Oneonta 21

Patrick Modzelewski with 8 points and Clifton Lyerly with 7 for the Golden Eagles.

Frankie Kelly with 7 points to lead the Red Dragons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2015, 06:24:39 PM
Buffalo State just rocking the Sports Arena as they are pounding Fredonia 60-33 at halftime.

Lovell Smith with 14 to lead the Bengals. Rod Epps and Chris cartwright with 12 points apiece.

Ian Helps with 10 points for the Blue Devils. Tremaine Shelton also has 7.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2015, 09:28:04 PM
Final Score

Plattsburgh State 84  Cortland State 63. 

I had the Cardinals winning by a 76-71 final. I was off with the margin of victory but my 147 total points was exactly what was scored in the game.

The Cardinals win much easier than I thought they would. Cortland twice came back from double figure deficits to make it a game but the 3rd time was a charm for the Cardinals. After the Red Dragons cut a 13 point 2nd half lead from 40-27 down to 44-43 with 12:50 left on the clock, the Cards went inside to big man Reggie Williams who got an old fashioned 3 point play, almost got a second one on the next Cardinal possession, but missed the free throw and after a Shamoy McIntosh 3 pointer Williams scored inside again.  The lead was back to 8 points with 10:34 to go. After several minutes of missed opportunities on both ends of the court, the Cardinals then showed off their versatility as 3 different players hit 3 pointers for their next 3 field goals. First it was Jordan Moody with a triple, countered by a three ball from Cortland's Blair Estarfaa. Then Plattsburgh's Ezra Hodgson followed with another three pointer, his 3rd one of the night. That was answered by a layup by Matt McGown to pull Cortland back within single digits. Shortly after that Cardinal point guard, Mike Mitchell, buried one from long distance to up the lead back to 12 points. The Red Dragons' Estarfaa was fouled behind the arc, went to the line and made all 3 free throws to cut the lead to 9 points but the X-man, Xavier Thomas, got to the rim twice in the next 50 seconds and the lead was at 14 and rising. The Cardinals went 8x8 from the line down the stretch to pull away for the 21 point win.

The Cardinals showed just how deep they are tonight as they were missing their 2nd leading scorer, and main 3 point shooting threat Eddie Correa. Eddie leads the SUNYAC in 3 point field goal percentage at 48% and missed his 2nd game in a row. Still the Cardinals had 5 players reach double figures and the team was 10x16 from downtown (62.5%). Six different players scored from beyond the arc.

Reggie Williams was the games leading scorer tonight as he showed why he's leading the SUNYAC in field goal percentage with 57.8% accuracy. Tonight he was 9x14 from the field to total 21 points, with 4 rebounds 2 assists and a block. Reggie also leads the YAC in blocks with 43.

Xavier Thomas came off the bench and scored 16 points on 7x14 shooting and had 3 more dunks to add to his highlight reel. If there was a dunk catgory in the SUNYAC I'm pretty sure Xavier would be at the top of the list...both in quality as well as quantity. He had a team high 6 rebounds and 3 steals as well.

Shamoy McIntosh (4x7 fg, 2x4 3's, 4x4 ft) scored 14 points and equaled Thomas' total of 6 rebounds.

Ezra Hodgson (3x4 fg, 3x3 3's, 1x3 ft) and Jordan Moody (4x5 fg, 2x3 3's) both scored 10 points.

Point guard Mike Mitchell was just short of a double-double as he had a season high 12 assists to go along with his 8 points, 4 rebounds and a steal. Mike leads the SUNYAC in total number of assists with 105, assists per game at 5.3, and assist/turnover ratio at 2.1.

Cortland had 4 players in double figures led by Blair Estarfaa with 15 points (3x9 fg, 1x5 3's, 8x11 ft).

TJ Hefele had 14 points (4x11 fg, 4x7 3's, 2x2 ft), 3 boards, 1 assist and a steal.

Matt McGowan had a game high 7 rebounds and was a perfect 6x6 from the field for 12 points. He also had 3 assists.

Lamard Herron also had 12 points (3x14 fg, 1x4 3's, 5x7 ft), 5 rebounds, 4 steals and 2 assists.

The main difference in tonight's game was the big discrepancy in the shooting percentages. Plattsburgh shot a season high 59.2 % from the field (29x49) and also had a season best 62.5% from long distance (10x16). The Red Dragons were only 18x56 from the field (32.1%) and slightly worse from long range 7x22 (31.8%). Cortland did have better numbers from the line as they hit 20x27 free throws (74.1%) to 16x24 for Plattsburgh (66.7%) but those four extra made free throws couldn't come close to the field goal differential.   The Cardinals had a slight advantage off the glass, 35-32 but Cortland committed fewer turnovers with 7 to Plattsburgh's 11.       

Plattsburgh gets to avenge their earlier loss to Cortland and in the process bumps the Red Dragons into a 3 way tie for the 6th and final playoff spot. They are tied with Oneonta and New Paltz, all with 8-7 records but if the regular season ended today Oneonta would claim the final playoff spot by virtue of their season sweep of the Hawks and Cortland.

The Cardinals improved their overall record to 15-6 overall and 10-4 in the SUNYAC. They remain tied with Oswego in the loss column, while the Lakers have a game in hand in the win column, and are presently 11-4 after their lop sided win over Potsdam tonight. Tomorrow's game matching the top two teams in the YAC may not determine the conference's number 1 seed and playoff host but it could go a long way in doing so. I'd feel a whole lot better if Eddie Correa was suiting up tomorrow and I'm hoping that he was held out tonight to save him for tomorrow.

Cortland drops to 15-7 overall and 8-7 in the YAC. They will look to get back on the winning track tomorrow against Potsdam and since just about everyone has gone no worse than 1&1 this year when they play Plattsburgh and their travel partner I'm guessing that  a dose of the Bears will get the Red Dragons healthy. They have to win that game to have any hope of making the playoffs. Even so, they finish next weekend with 2 tough road games, at Brockport and then Oswego. I think that Cortland needs to win 2 of these last 3 games and that still might not be enough to get in, if the one they lose is to Brockport.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2015, 01:52:34 PM
Other final scores from last night.

Geneseo State 76 New Paltz 65
I had the Knights winning this one by a 74-65 score. I was going to give a black mark to the Geneseo player that scored their final 2 points and prevented me from a perfect prediction but it was 2 free throws by Andy Drescher, so I can't fault him for making them both. I will give RJ Rosa the black mark because he committed the meaningless foul with 33 seconds left when his team was down by 11 points. ;D   

Hawks weren't going to let Gordon Lyons beat them as they held him to his 2nd lowest output of the year with just 11 points. It was also just the 2nd time in 21 games that Lyons failed to get a double-double as he was limited to 6 rebounds. The only other time he didn't get a double-double was against...you guessed it....New Paltz, back on January 10th when he was held to 9 boards. I'm sure Gordon would rather have the victory, though.

Instead it was James McKenna with the big double-double of 26 points and 10 rebounds that led the way for the Knights. Andy Drescher was close behind him with 20 points, 3 steals, 2 assists and 2 boards. Nick Fessenden came off the bench with 9 points and 8 rebounds in 21 minutes of court time.

Taylor Sowah had 22 points and 9 boards to lead the Hawks. Kevin Roach had 16 points, 7 rebounds, and 4 steals. RJ Rosa and Eric Regenbogen both had 10 points.

Geneseo stays alone in 3rd place at 9-5 in the YAC and if they win today they will tie one of the 2 teams in front of them, in the loss column, as Oswego or Plattsburgh will end the day with a 5th loss. First place in the regular season is still within the Knights grasp.

New Paltz at 8-7 has slipped to their lowest spot of the season as they are tied with Cortland for 7th place. A loss today at Brockport could further dampen their playoff hopes.     



Brockport State 56   Oneonta 52

This was the only game I missed as I thought the Red Dragons would finally snap their losing streak against Brockport.
The Golden Eagles, with the win last night, have moved up to 5th place as they jumped over the 3 teams ahead of them at the start of play on Friday. Coach Dunne, who lost more talent than anybody from last year, continues to have the Golden Eagles in playoff contention.

This was a close game throughout but Brockport had the lead almost the entire game except at one point with 5:54 remaining in the game, 2 free throws by Frankie Kelly put Oneonta up by a 42-41 margin. It was their only lead and it lasted for all of 25 seconds until Patrick Modzelewski buried a 3 pointer to make it 44-42. After the teams traded baskets Modzelewski nailed another one from downtown and the lead was 49-43 with under 3 minutes left and the Red Dragons could never catch up. The key play was a layup and 1, by the Golden Eagles Clifton Lyerly, after Oneonta had pulled to within a single point at 49-48. Lyerly's layup made it 51-48 but he missed the free throw and  Modzelewski got the rebound for Brockport. Levi Pace scored seconds later on another layup for the Eagles and it was now a 5 point lead again with 1:15 left. Oneonta got it down to 1 again but Brockport hit 3 of 4 from the line to slam the door shut on the Red Dragons.

Patrick Modzelewski with 16 points and 7 rebounds to lead Brockport. Clifton Lylerly with 12 points and 9 rebounds, while Levi Pace had 12 points and 9 rebounds also. Aaron White had 10 points and Matt Smith had 6 assists, 4 rebounds and 3 points.

Mikey McElroy with 17 points and 9 rebounds for Oneonta. Lawrence Coleman with 13 points and Frankie Kelly with 11.

Brockport at 8-6 in 5th place while Oneota sits in 6th by virtue of the tiebreakers they own at 8-7.   

   


Buffalo State 105 Fredonia 77

I had the Bengals winning by an 87-67 margin. I guess both teams decided not to play defense. I didn't count on that. The Bengals were merciful though as they put the Blue Devils away quickly by opening up a 24-10 lead afterjust 7minutes of play. The rest of the game was just a matter of how many points would be scored, would the Bengals hit the century mark, and how large would the margin of victory be. The largest lead was 32 points on several occasions and every single Buff State player broke int the scoring column.

Lovell Smith with 20 points, Chris Cartwright with 17 points and 10 assists, Rod Epps with 16 points and Larry Rivers with 10 to lead the Bengals.

Ian Helps with 18 points and 7 rebounds for Fredonia.

Bengals stay in 4th place at 10-6 and will be on the road next weekend to face New Paltz and then Oneonta. One win win clinch a playoff spot.

Oswego State 83 Potsdam 55

I had this one an 80-61 Oswego win so I wasn't too far off.

Oswego let Potsdam have its moment then slammed the door on the Bears in the final 10 minutes of the 1st half. Wuth 8 minutes gone in the 2nd half the margin was 20 points and the Lakers eased to the finish line.

Walter Sampson with 21 points, Brian Sortino with 15 and Rashawn Powell with 12 points and 9 rebounds.

The Bears got 14 points from Rashawd Hendricks along with a team high 7 rebounds. Zac Adams was next with 8 points and 6 rebounds.

Lakers improve to 11-4 as they tune up for their big battle with the Cardinals today.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2015, 02:16:31 PM
Four games on tap for today including what may turn out to be the biggest game of the SUNYAC regular season.
Not much time so just some quick picks.

Plattsburgh State        Oswego State        2:00 PM The Big One... Nuff Said

Cards the underdogs by a slim 2 points  and their record in back to back road games isn't good as they usually win on Friday and lose on Saturday...but my heart is on my sleeve so I'm taking the Cards even though logic and conventional wisdom says that Oswego should prevail. Plattsburgh 74 Oswego 71


New Paltz State  at  Brockport State        2:00 PM

Golden Eagles are 5 point favorites and they win by a 72-66 final.

   
Oneonta State     at    Geneseo State          2:00 PM

Geneseo a slight edge here by 4 points and they should be able to cover that spread here at home. Oneonta drops another tough one 69-64.   


Potsdam State  at  Cortland State        2:00 PM

Simply put the Red Dragons cannot afford to lose this game. They are favored by an 18 point margin but I think that's too many. Cortland 76 Potsdam 64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Can anyone pull up live stats for Oneonta/Geneseo? It says the game between Geneseo and Oswego will be in 3 days????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2015, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Can anyone pull up live stats for Oneonta/Geneseo? It says the game between Geneseo and Oswego will be in 3 days????

Champ here's the link to the Geneso game.  http://geneseoknights.com/sports/mbkb/2014-15/boxscores/20150214_x2dn.xml
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Updates:

Plattsburgh leads Oswego 49-38 with 11;20 left to play.

Geneseo up 67-52 with 11:18 to go

New Paltz over Brockport 32-27 with 16;24 to og

Cortland leads Potsdam 67-41 with 9:41 to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
Final scores:

Plattsburgh State 66 Oswego State 59

Geneseo 87 Oneonta 67

Cortland State 87  Potsdam State 61

Brockport State leads New Paltz  58-51 with 1:22 left to play

Brockport game is now a final as the Golden Eagles win 61-57.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2015, 10:53:22 PM
Plattsburgh State 66 Oswego State 59

I was fairly close with my prediction on this one as I had the Cardinals winning by a 74-71 final. Both teams were a little short of my projections but I didn't get a chance to use my usual formula for any of my picks today due to a time shortage.   


Plattsburgh State wins the biggest game of the regular season so far and may be the one, that when we look back, can point to as the deciding factor in who gets to host the SUNYAC Tournament. Geneseo is right in the hunt for that prize, probably more so than Oswego after today's games, so there is still a lot of basketball to be played yet.

Oswego opened up with a 10-1 opening burst but the Cardinals came right back with a 13-2 run of their own to take a 14-12 lead on the strength of 3 Reggie Williams inside moves and a pair of 3 pointers by Ezra Hodgson and Kyle Richardson. The Lakers then got back to back layups by Mark Candelario and Brian Sortino  to regain the lead but it was the last time they enjoyed that luxury. Five straight points by Xavier Thomas, a three ball and another jumper put the Cardinals back in front for good at 19-16 with 7:37 left to play in the half. Reggie Williams scored the next 6 points for Plattsburgh to counteract 4 points for Oswego by Rashawn Powell. The Cards' Jordan Moody then got 4 points and the Lakers Walter Sampson got 3 to make the score 31-28 Plattsburgh. After Rashawn Powell hit a free throw for Oswego to cut the lead to 2 points with 24 ticks left, Cardinal Coach Curle made the decision to insert normal starter and top 3 point shooter, Eddie Correa, who was resting his injured wheel for the stretch run next week.  Correa was set up for the final Cardinal possession to attempt his specialty shot and he didn't disappoint as he buried a three pointer with 11 seconds to go. Sortino misfired at the buzzer and the Cardinals went into the locker room with a 34-29 advantage.

It took the Cardinals 51 seconds into the 2nd half to open up the first double digit lead of the game, as Jordon Moody drained a three ball and Reggie Williams scored another layup inside. After Rashawn Powell scored to bring it back to single digits, the Cardinals got a three pointer from Ezra Hodgson and another one from Jordan Moody, to sandwich a Brian Sortino layup and the lead was back up to 12. After a total of 7 missed shots between the 2 teams, over the next two minutes, Williams and Hodgson finally scored inside on the next two Cardinal trips down the floor. The lead had ballooned to 16 points at 49-33 with 14 minutes left and the Oswego coaching staff was forced to call a time out to regroup. And regroup they did!! Sortino scored on a layup, Ian Schupp hit a triple, Dustin Pond did likewise and Walter Sampson made a layup and in a 4 minute stretch the Lakers reeled off a 10-0 run to make it 49-43 and get themselves right back into the game. The Cardinals' Mike Mitchell finally broke the the visitors' drought with a long 3 pointer and after an Oswego misfire, Williams scored inside again for Plattsburgh, to once again give them a double digit lead at 54-43. Back came Oswego with a 3 pointer by Pond and another one by Sortino and the lead was the lowest since the early part of the 2nd period at 54-49 with 6:50 to go. 

Still up by 5 points with under 3 minutes to go, Plattsburgh's Jordan Moody canned his 3rd 3 pointer of the game to give the Cardinals some breathing room with a 59-51 lead and 2:45 on the clock. Mitchell hit a pair of free throws to extend the lead to 10 points but Sortino and the Lakers made one final push. Sortino scored on a 3 pointer and after Plattsburgh missed the front end of a 1&1, he scored again on a layup and was fouled. He completed the 3 point play to make it 61-57 with 45 seconds left. The Lakers had to foul and Mitchell hit another pair from the line. Sortino scored on the ensuing possession for Oswego but that was the last basket they could hit. Plattsburgh hit more free throws to make the final score of 66-59.

The  Lakers had trouble matching up with Reggie Williams as the big guy led the Cardinals with 19 points on 8x11 shooting from the field. He was a beast on the boards today as well, finishing with a game high 14 rebounds, to grab his 6th double-double of the season. He tied his career high in rebounds and that occurred the last time he played Oswego back on January 16th when he had 24 points and 14 rebounds against the Lakers. He also had 3 more blocks and a pair of assists.  He continues to lead the SUNYAC in field goal percentage and blocked shots.

Jordan Moody was close behind with 17 points (4x10 fg, 3x6 3's, and 6x8 ft) for his 6th straight double figure performance since his promotion to the starting lineup. Jordan is averaging 15.3 ppg in that stretch which would make him the top scoring threat for Plattsburgh at the moment.

Ezra Hodgson and Mike Mitchell both had 8 points with Hodgson hitting a pair of key 3 pointers and Mitchell adding 4 more assists to his SUNYAC leading total.

Kyle Richardson added  5 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a block off the bench and Xavier Thomas had 6 points and 3 boards in 16 minutes of floor time.

Shamoy McIntosh failed to crack the scoring column for only the 2nd time all season but did have 10 rebounds 2 assists and a steal.

The team stats were fairly even as the Cards shot 21x50 (42%) from the field to 22x60 (38.9%) for the Lakers. Plattsburgh made 9x24 from long range and Oswego was 7x18. Cards were 15x21 from the line and Oswego was 8x10. Plattsburgh had a big margin off the glass, 43 to 27 and had 10 second chance points to 4 for Oswego. Plattsburgh did have 17 TO's to only 10 for the Lakers.

Oswego was led by Brian Sortino who had a game high 25 points (10x22 fg, 3x7 3's, 2x3 ft).  Rashawn Powell had 11 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals and a block. Dustin Pond had 9 points and 4 rebounds, while Walter Sampson also had 9 points with 3 assists.

Plattsburgh moves into sole possession of 1st place for the first time since the 2007-08 season. The  Cardinals improve their record to 16-6 overall and 11-4 in the SUNYAC. They will return to action on Tuesday as they travel to Potsdam to take on the Bears at 5:30. Then they return home for the final two games of the season against Brockkport and then Geneseo which may be the game to determine the top seed and host of the SUNYAC tournamemt.

Oswego, 15-8 overall, drops into 2nd place with an 11-5 YAC mark, a half game ahead of Geneseo, but tied in the loss column. Geneseo also owns a win against the Lakers and the game between these two, which takes place on Tuesday at 5:30 could help the Cardinals or hurt the Lakers. A loss by Oswego would probably relegate them to a 3rd seed and they would no longer have any chance for the conference regular season crown or a first round bye. A win by Oswego would certainly help the Cardinals chances of clinching the top seed.  Go Lakers!! ;D         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2015, 01:40:07 AM
Wow...less than 1 week left. 1 thing is for sure, if you lose 9 games then you are out. 10-8 probably wont get you in. 11-7 will do the trick (depending on who has 9 losses) in at least 2/3 cases. 12-6 should get you a home playoff. 13 wins should get you a 1st round bye. I need some Pepto Bismol...about 6 days worth!  I can't stand this pressure!!

Edited 2/16
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 16, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
"I didn't get a chance to use my usual formula for any of my picks today due to a time shortage."

Excuses, excuses, excuses...   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2015, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
"I didn't get a chance to use my usual formula for any of my picks today due to a time shortage."

Excuses, excuses, excuses...   ;D

No excuses needed....I did go 8-1 over the weekend, picking 2 underdogs and only losing the Oneonta-Brockport pick on Friday.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2015, 12:40:11 PM
So many things on my plate this past week that I was remiss in my normal duties of pointing out who the SUNYAC Playerof the Week was. My apologies to Gordon Lyons who, for the 3rd time this season, (and it could have been for about the 8th time this season) was selected as the SUNYAC honoree.  This was for the week that ended on February 8th. Here is the write up from the YAC website:

Gordon Lyons, Geneseo

Lyons led the Knights to a 2-0 week, picking up wins at Oswego, 59-55, and Brockport, 76-62. In the victory over the Lakers, he totaled 18 points and 12 rebounds before compiling 21 points, 17 boards and five assist in the victory over the Golden Eagles. The nation's leader in rebounding has now notched a double-double in 18 of 19 games this season.


Gordon previously won the YAC POTW on 11-24-14 and also on 12-5-14. He continues to lead the nation in rebounding with 13.1 rpg. He also has compiled a double-double in 20 of 22 games and is in 2nd pace in the country in that category. The leader is only ahead of him because he has played 1 more game than Gordon and has a double-double in 21 of 23 games. He leads the SUNYAC in scoring with a 20.6 ppg average and is shooting 55.6% from the field despite playing the past 5 weeks with a tendon injury to his shooting hand.  This D3hoops pre-season 2nd team All American has certainly lived up to his billing and the big question is whether or not he moves up to First Team All American at year's end. He certainly has the credentials to do so. Congratulations Gordon. I look forward to seeing you in action this weekend when you travel up here to the North Country to take on my Plattsburgh State Cardinals. I'm hoping you get another double-double against us, just as long as it isn't some outrageous number with 30 and 20. ::) I'm thinking 13 and 10 would be good on Saturday. You can have the 30 and 20 on Friday night over in Potsdam. ;D       
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2015, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
"I didn't get a chance to use my usual formula for any of my picks today due to a time shortage."

Excuses, excuses, excuses...   ;D

No excuses needed....I did go 8-1 over the weekend, picking 2 underdogs and only losing the Oneonta-Brockport pick on Friday.  ;)

So get those predictions done today so u don't "run out of time" tomorrow!  😃
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2015, 03:34:54 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2015, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
"I didn't get a chance to use my usual formula for any of my picks today due to a time shortage."

Excuses, excuses, excuses...   ;D

No excuses needed....I did go 8-1 over the weekend, picking 2 underdogs and only losing the Oneonta-Brockport pick on Friday.  ;)

So get those predictions done today so u don't "run out of time" tomorrow!  😃

I can't do that because I have to make out the schedule for the final week of the National Pick 'Em League over on the Multi Regional Topic Board. That involves a lot of work that will most likely take up most f my free time today. Then tomorrow it's off to Potsdam to take in the Cardinals-Bears game live. Never a dull moment.

And if that wasn't bad enough, my back went out yesterday and i can't even walk. Off to the chiropractor, right now, and hoping for a miracle. :P :(   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2015, 10:53:46 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2015, 03:34:54 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2015, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2015, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
"I didn't get a chance to use my usual formula for any of my picks today due to a time shortage."

Excuses, excuses, excuses...   ;D

No excuses needed....I did go 8-1 over the weekend, picking 2 underdogs and only losing the Oneonta-Brockport pick on Friday.  ;)

So get those predictions done today so u don't "run out of time" tomorrow!  😃

I can't do that because I have to make out the schedule for the final week of the National Pick 'Em League over on the Multi Regional Topic Board. That involves a lot of work that will most likely take up most f my free time today. Then tomorrow it's off to Potsdam to take in the Cardinals-Bears game live. Never a dull moment.

And if that wasn't bad enough, my back went out yesterday and i can't even walk. Off to the chiropractor, right now, and hoping for a miracle. :P :(

Damn magicman... you jinxed me. My back has been killing me the past 24 hrs. Coach Ansari recommended a acupuncturist (sic?) for me. Gonna see her tomorrow!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2015, 12:16:00 AM
How did I jinx you? I haven't spoken to you on the phone in days and haven't been within 500 miles of you in weeks.

And don't listen to Coach Ansari. Go see a back cracker, I don't trust those pin stickers one bit. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 17, 2015, 09:27:43 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2015, 12:16:00 AM

And don't listen to Coach Ansari. Go see a back cracker, I don't trust those pin stickers one bit. ::)

Why don't you tell me how you really feel??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2015, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 17, 2015, 09:27:43 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2015, 12:16:00 AM

And don't listen to Coach Ansari. Go see a back cracker, I don't trust those pin stickers one bit. ::)

Why don't you tell me how you really feel??

Like a million bucks.....all green and wrinkled!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2015, 02:55:16 PM
 Off to see the Cardinals take on the Potsdam bears this evening over in Potsdam. Hope it's a trip home that'll put a smile on my face.

Three games on tap for today:

Oswego State  at  Geneseo State      5:30 PM  This is the Game of the Day
Both of these teams still harbor hopes of gaining the top seed for the playoffs. After tonight only one will be left standing to challenge Plattsburgh. Oswego, after sitting in first place for most of the year,could find themselves in third place after this one is over. geneseo now seems to be the main threat to the Cardinals for the top seed as the Knights have reeled off 5 straight conference wins in a row. Nobody's had a longer streak. The oddsmakers have made the Knights a slim 3 point home favorite. I like them as well but I'm hoping that the Lakers can pull off the upset here. I can't pick them to do so however as Geneseo has been on fire. Knights win this one by a 68-64 final score.
   
Cortland State  at   Brockport State      5:30 PM

Brockport doesn't want to have to win two games next weekend in the North Country to qualify for the tournament. A win tonight will go a long way in locking up that playoff berth and putting a big hurt on the Red Dragons. Both teams need this game and I think that Brockport will  confound the experts who have made Cortland a slim 2 point favorite. I'm taking the Golden Eagles at home to win by a hard fought 69-66 final.

     
   
Plattsburgh State      Potsdam State      5:30 PM

The Cardinals better not take the Bears lightly here just because they finally have first place all to themselves. Funny things have happened on the way to the playoffs. The oddsmakers have Platttsburgh rated as an 18  point road favorite. This game could make Potsdam's season. Card's should win by a comfortable margin though and I think the coaching staff will have them ready to take care of business. Plattsburgh 85 Potsdam 66.
   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2015, 08:14:18 AM
The powers that be at SUNYAC headquarters must have read my post from 3 days ago when I mentioned that Gordon Lyons was the Player of the Week for the third time this year and could have been the POTW for about the 8th time because once again Gordon was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the 4th time this season and the 2nd week in a row.

Here's the write up fom the YAC website for his most recent selection for the week that ended February 15th.

Gordon Lyons, Geneseo


Lyons keyed Geneseo's 3-0 week in SUNYAC play that included 33 points and 15 rebounds in a 78-72 victory at Buffalo State and 27 points, 14 rebounds, 9 assists and 4 steals in an 87-67 victory over visiting Oneonta on Saturday. The nation's leading rebounder moved into third place on Geneseo's all-time scoring list with 1,544 points to date.


Once again congratulations to Gordon on a job well done.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2015, 03:12:17 PM
This is no way a knock on Gordon Lyons who was the SUNYAC POTW for the 4th time this year and 2nd week in a row. As I said earlier on this board Gordon has had such an outstanding season that he could probably have won the POTW award just about every week. However it's nice to spread the wealth, so to speak, and this week my Player of the Week Award would have to go to Plattsburgh State's Reggie Williams.

Reggie had 2 outstanding games on back to back days on the road at Cortland on Friday and at Oswego on Saturday.

On Friday, Plattsburgh defeated Cortland 84-63 and Reggie was the game's high scorer with 21 points shooting 9 of 14 from the field. He also had 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

On Saturday, in the biggest game of the year in the conference to that point, against league leading Oswego, Reggie once again rose to the occasion, with a team high 19 points, shooting 8 for 11 from the field. He also had a game high 14 rebounds, 2 assists and 3 more blocked shots to add to his SUNYAC leading total. Plattsburgh won the game 66-59 to take over sole possession of first place in the conference.

For those two games Reggie shot 17x25, (68%) scored 40 points, had 18 rebounds, 4 assists and 4 blocked shots.

Putting up such good numbers in back to back games on the road when so much was at stake was enough for me to give him the edge this week for the POTW. That and the fact that I am slightly prejudiced in favor of the Cardinals. ;D

Congratulations to Reggie for leading the Cardinals into the top spot of the SUNYAC.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2015, 09:30:52 PM
Final scores and wrap ups from Tuesday night's games.

Plattsburgh State 71  Potsdam State 67

I thought the Cardinals would make short work of the Bears in this game but the guys from Potsdam, with nothing to lose, wanted to make this their statement game and they came damn close to doing just that. I had Plattsburgh winning this game by a comfortable 19 point margin of 85-66. At halftime I knew the outcome would be a lot closer than that. Every time Plattsburgh looked like they were about to open up and finally gain control of the game in the first half, the Bears would respond with an answer and every 5 or 6 point lead that Plattsburgh would gain would soon be negated by the Bears on the other end of the court. Even when Plattsburgh's Jordan Moody sank a 3 pointer, with 26 seconds left in the half, to give the Cards a 38-32 lead, the Bears had a response for that as Zac Adams nailed a 3 pointer with 2 seconds left and was fouled on the shot. He finished off the rare 4 point play and the Bears were only down by 2 at the break.

The teams traded points early in the 2nd half until Plattsburgh gained a slight advantage and opened up their largest lead  to that point at 48-41 with 15 minutes to play. Here comes the run I was waiting for but it never materialized. Instead it was the Bears who outscored Plattsburgh 12-5 over the next 5 minutes and with 10 minutes left the score was 53-53. The Bears went in front 57-56 and extended it to 61-58 and held the lead until back to back layups by Reggie Williams and Xavier Thomas put Plattsburgh back on top 62-61 with 5:29 to play. Several more lead changes would take place over the next few minutes and with Plattsburgh up 65-63 the Bears' buried a three pointer with just 1:03 left on the clock. Plattsburgh came down and once again went to their big man, Williams and the Bears played the hack a shaq game because Williams was only 2 for 7 from the line at that point in the game. With the game on the line however, the big guy calmly made both free throws to put Plattsburgh back in front with 45 seconds left in the game. Potsdam came down and missed a 3 pointer but got the offensive rebound and called a timeout with 18 seconds left. They tried another 3 pointer after the inbounds pass that almost went in but the Cardinals got the rebound and Xavier Thomas was fouled with 8 seconds remaining. He made both of his free throws to put the Cards up by 3 at 69-66. Plattsburgh took a time out and there was no way they were going to let the Bears get off a game tying 3 pointer. Rishawd Hendricks was fouled before he could shoot and went to the line for a 1&1. He made the first and deliberately missed the 2nd hoping for some good luck, but Plattsburgh's Kyle Richardson got the rebound and was fouled with 1 second left to play. He made them both to make the final score 71-67 and the Cardinals were happy to escape with the win.

Jordan Moody captured scoring honors with 19 points, with some excellent shooting (6x9 fg, 2x5 3's, 5x6 ft). Reggie Williams had 16 points, a team high 7 rebounds and 2 blocks. Xavier Thomas and Kyle Richardson both scored 9 points off the bench. Richardson had 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2assists and a steal in 20 minutes of playing time. Thomas grabbed 6 rebounds, with an assist and a block. Ezra Hodgson added 8 points, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 assists. Shamoy McIntosh had 6 rebounds and 5 points. Point guard Mike Mitchell failed to break into the scoring column but added to his SUNYAC leading assist total with 6 helpers, 3 rebounds and a pair of steals.

Potsdam got 15 points with 7 rebounds from Zac Adams, helped by 13 points and 6 rebounds from Rishawd Hendricks. Tom Graf and Marquis Lee both scored 9 points. Graf also had 3 steals and 3 boards. Tariq McIntyre had 6 ;points and a game high 8 rebounds that helped the Bears outrebound the Cardinals by a 43-34 margin. Joe Estramonte had 7 assists 4 points and 3 rebounds off the bench.

The Cardinals shot the ball a little better from the field 49% (25x51) to 40.6% (26x64) for the Bears. Potsdam was better from long distance hitting 7x21 while the Cards were only 4x14. Plattsburgh struggled from the free throw line hitting only 53.1% (17x32) and that came close to costing them the game. Fortunately they made 6 in a row at the end of the game when it counted. Potsdam only got to the line 10 times but made 8 of them. Both teams took fairly good care of the ball as Potsdam only had 11 turnovers and the Cardinals only had 7.

Plattsburgh solidified their hold on the top spot as they improved to 12-4 in conference play. With just 2 games remaining this weekend they can clinch the regular season crown, the top seed and the right to host the Final Four of the YAC Tournament with a win on Friday or Saturday. Their overall record is now 17-6 and they have moved into the 2nd spot in the Regional Rankings behind St. John Fisher. They will take on Brockport State on Friday at 5:30 PM.

Potsdam will hope to pull off the upset of the 3rd place Geneseo Knights as they travel to the North Country on Friday at 5:30 to take on the Bears.


Oswego State 76  at  Geneseo State 64

A huge thank you to the Lakers for helping out the Cardinals by taking down the Knights.


Brockport State  57 vs  Cortland State 48

This win by the Golden Knights gives them a big leg up on getting into the conference tournament. It may have dealt a death blow to the Red Dragons who will need to beat Oswego this weekend in all probability.

                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2015, 12:14:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2015, 09:30:52 PM
Final scores and wrap ups from Tuesday night's games.                 

Tuesday wrap up on a Thursday night??  You must be REALLY busy there buddy. Take some time out for your favorite conference today!!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2015, 01:10:14 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2015, 03:12:17 PM
This is no way a knock on Gordon Lyons who was the SUNYAC POTW for the 4th time this year and 2nd week in a row. As I said earlier on this board Gordon has had such an outstanding season that he could probably have won the POTW award just about every week. However it's nice to spread the wealth, so to speak,

Magicman, trust me...you arent the only 1 who was thinking that. 12 POTW awards and 1 person gets a 3rd of them ???. Makes me think that no 1 else has a shot at Player of the year in SUNYAC until I discovered this.

                                                              Top 10 rankings, SUNYAC categories,  as of today.

Gordon Lyons  Geneseo                    Scoring - 1st, Rebounds - 1st, Fg % - 4th and Ft % - 10th.  4 categories where LYONS is ranked in the top 10  (add a 5th for minutes played 1st)

Chris Cartwright   Buffalo State          Scoring - 4th, Ft % - 2nd , 3 pt % - 6th, 3 ptrs made - 1st, Assists - 1st, assist to turnover ratio - 2nd and steals - 7th. 7 categories where CARTWRIGHT is ranked in the top 10 ( add a 8th for minutes played - 5th)


  Ranked in nearly twice as many statistical categories (SUNYAC games only) as Lyons (or probably anyone else for that matter, I didn't check). I gotta believe that Cartwright HAS TO BE THE FRONT RUNNER FOR PLAYER OF THE YEAR, and All - American consideration.

  The last player to have done what Cartwright is doing this year was Anthony Williams. In 2008 Anthony Williams (Plattsburgh) was ranked in the top 10 in at least 5 categories Scoring  - 1st, Assists - 5th, 3 ptrs made - 3rd, mins - 2nd and assist to turnover ratio - 9th and he not only made Player of the year but All American. Check the SUNYAC records for the past 10 years. NOT 1 PLAYER HAS BEEN RANKED IN THE TOP 10 IN 7 CATEGORIES....NOT A SINGLE 1 (this late in the season)!!!!!!  Williams in 07 and in 08 was ranked in the top 5 in scoring and assists. He was Player of the year both seasons. In 09 Scott Morton was ranked in the top 5 in scoring (1st), assists (5th)along with being ranked 4th in steals, 4th assist to turnover ratio and 9th in 3 pts made (5 categories). He was player of the year that season. In 2011 Cartwright was ranked was ranked in the top 5 in scoring (3rd) and 5th in assist (5th). But no P O Y! 1st team 'Yac

  I'm not sure how any of these awards are determined. is it 1 person at a desk? Do all the SID's getting together? Do all the coaches get together??? I know we have a damn good SID at Buffalo State so I know that he is doing all he can do to make sure Chris gets the kind of recognition, (that has gotten past SUNYAC players, with similar #'s, POY &  All -American status), that he deserves. All indicators over the past 10 years make it clear who should be where at season end (this Saturday)  I'm not 1 to blow up any of Buff State's kids over anyone else, but I'm seeing the same thing that Magicman and others are seeing.  I damn sure don't want to see a BENGAL, who is deserving of the top honors, get overlooked. If Cartwright isnt deserving, then who is? I sure hope that it's a level playing field for post-season honors.

  The kid deserve it!!! Time will tell.

go BENGALS

(I'll talk about Chris Thompson, Rod Epps, Jordan Glover, Derrick Fernandez and Lovell Smith later)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2015, 07:43:34 PM
All ten teams in action today on the final weekend of the regular season. Still a lot on the line as it usually is in the YAC.

Brockport State  at  Plattsburgh State      5:30 PM

Both teams looking to clinch something tonight. Brockport looking to make sure they get into the playoffs......Plattsburgh trying to lock down the regular season crown. Oddsmakers have made the Cardinals an 8 point home favorite. Cards looking for payback for earlier defeat in Brockport and for last year. I think they get it. Defensive battle but Plattsburgh wins 72-66. 
   
Buffalo State  at  New Paltz State      5:30 PM

Bengals also trying to lock down their playoff spot. New Paltz fighting for their playoff lives. Point spread gives a slim 2 point edge to the Bengals. I think they win it 83-76 and clinch their spot in the tournament.
   
   
Geneseo State      Potsdam State      5:30 PM

Geneseo can't afford a slip up here after falling to the Lakers the other night. They still have hopes of winning the regular season but need help. Oddsmakers have made them a big 13 point road favorite. If the Bears play like they did on Tuesday they could pull off the upset. I don't think they will though and have to go with Gorgon Lyons and the knights to win this one by a 75-63 score.
   
   
Cortland State      Oswego State      5:30 PM

Lakers still hoping for a miracle to give them the top seed. They won't get it but still would like a first round bye. Red Dragon have to win to stay alive for a playoff spot. Oddsmakers favor Oswego by a 4 point margin. I think the Lakers win by a few more than that. Oswego 76 Cortland 67
   
   
Fredonia State  at Oneonta State      5:30 PM

These Red Dragons need this game and with help from Buff St and Oswego could clinch a playoff berth tonight. Te point spread favor Oneonta by a 14 point margin and I'll be surprised if it is that close. Oneonta wins this one 82-61.   
   

Edit: 7:45 PM  Posted these at 4:00 PM today them left to go to the ball game at Plattsburgh. Apparently they didn't make the board but they were my picks. Just got back to see they weren't posted.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2015, 07:54:18 PM
Final Scores:

Plattsburgh State 60  Brockport State 45

Buffalo State 73  New Paltz State 72

Geneseo State 70  Potsdam State 59

Cortland State 56  Oswego 47

Oneonta State 84  Fredonia State 82
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Vandy74 on February 20, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
The score was a bit lower than you predicted magicman but a solid win for the Plattsburgh State nonetheless.  The camera never panned where you and I were sitting that night when Middlebury seemed to be picking up a quality win for SOS purposes.  And it was.  They just never managed another until the last day of the season.  What a difference 6 weeks can make.  The Reggie Williams show is always entertaining unless you're rooting for the other team.  Solid offensive effort from McIntosh so long as he wasn't trying to hit from 3-point land.  Brockport's Modzelewski a total non-factor.   I expect you're feeling a lot better than you were the last time I saw you. ;)  Congratulations and Go Cardinals!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2015, 09:32:51 PM
Plattsburgh State 60  Brockport State 45

I said this game would be a defensive battle and I had the Cardinals winning by a 72-66 final but I didn't think that points would be so hard to come by, especially in the first 20 minutes of play. Brockport opened the scoring and after the first 5 minutes of play had moved in front of the Cardinals by an 11-3 margin. Plattsburgh, after an early basket by Reggie Williams, proceeded to miss their next 5 field goal attempts and in between those misses managed to commit 5 turnovers. They finally scored again on another inside move by Williams with 13:17 showing on the clock. That triggered a comeback aided by Xavier Thomas and Kyle Richardson who both came off the bench to provide some instant offense sorely need by the home team. Thomas got a fast break dunk and Richardson converted a rebound into a putback  that made it 11-9. After Plattsburgh's Shamoy McIntosh made 1 of 2 from the foul line, Richardson got loose for another dunk and the Cardinals finally had the lead at 12-11. Brockport had went nearly 8 minutes without scoring a single point. The Golden Eagles finally broke their scoring drought when Mitch Cote drained a three pointer to put Brockport back in front 14-12 with 6:24 left in the half. On Plattsburgh's next possession Kyle Richardson got his hand on another offensive rebound and tipped it in to tie the score. After both teams misfired over the next several minutes, Plattsburgh's Williams was fouled and made 1 of 2 to put the Cards in front and they never trailed for the remainder of the game. They stretched their lead to 21-16 on a basket by Ezra Hodgson only to have Brockport's Matt Smith hit a 3 pointer to make it 21-19. The Cards got a pair of free throws from McIntosh to make it a 4 point lead and after Brockport missed on their possession the Cards looked to take the final shot of the half. Smith had other ideas though and stole the ball and scored with 1 second left to send the teams into the break with Plattsburgh in front by a 23-21 score.

The teams traded baskets for the first few minutes of the 2nd period until Plattsburgh, up 27-25, got a pair of free throws from Reggie Williams. Then after Williams blocked a shot on the other end, the Cards came down and went right back to their big man and Williams scored inside again. Once again Williams blocked a shot on the Brockport possession, and this time Shamoy McIntosh drove to the hoop and scored too make it 33-25 and give the Cardinals a little breathing room. Brockport got it back to within 4 points at the 12:19 mark but another drive and score by McIntosh, followed by an old fashioned three point play from Williams, had the Cardinals back in front by 9 points at 40-31 with 9:49 to go. Another drive and score by McIntosh a short time later would boost the lead to double figures for the first time all night. The closest the Golden Eagles would get after that was 7 points at 45-38 with 6:35 remaining. 7 unanswered points by Plattsburgh built the lead back up to 14 with 3:33 remaining and it was time to light the cigar.

The Cardinals were led once again by their big man Reggie Williams who was the games leading scorer with 21 points and finished with a double-double by grabbing a game high 16 rebounds. The Golden Eagles simply had no answer for the big guy tonight. He also added 3 blocks but I, and the fans around me believe that he had a total of 5 blocks. He was 7x8 from the field to boost his league leading field goal percentage even higher and hit 7 of 11 from the line.

Shamoy McIntosh also had an outstanding game as he constantly slashed to the basket for a number of nice drives and finished with 18 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds and a pair of steals.

Kyle Richardson had 6 points and 7 rebounds off the bench, while Xavier Thomas had 4 points and 9 rebounds.

Matt Smith was the leading scorer for Brockport with 14 points on 6x7 from the field, 1x1 from downtown, with 3 rebounds and a pair of steals. Clifton Lyerly had 11 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Plattsburgh shot 22x47 from the field (46.8%) but couldn't buy a three pointer as they were 0x14 from long distance. I wonder how many teams have won a game by 15 points by going 0x14 from 3 point land? The Cards were 16x25 (64%) from the line.

Brockport had a miserable night shooting the rock as they were only 18x54 (33.3%) from the field, 4x21 from long range (19%) and 5x8 (62.5%) from the line.

Plattsburgh killed Brockport off the glass with 48 rebounds to 23 for the visitors but Brockport only had 13 turnovers to 21 for the Cardinals.

Plattsburgh with tonight's win, moves to 13-4 and has clinched the top seed in the SUNYAC. They will host the Final Four next weekend.  They improve to 18-6 overall and will be shooting for their 3rd straight 20 win season. They wrap up their regular season tomorrow against Geneseo who will still have a chance to come in 2nd place and get a bye into the semifinals.

Brockport falls to 10-7 and despite the loss, has also clinched a playoff spot. They own the tiebreaker over both Oneonta and Cortland if all 3 finish 10-8 so even if they lose to Potsdam tomorrow they are in. They can finish as high as 3rd place depending on tomorrows results. Brockport can only finish in 6th place if Buffalo State, Potsdam and Plattsburgh win their games tomorrow. That would leave Cortland and Brockport as the only 2 teams with 10-8 records and Cortland would win the tiebreaker over Brockport by virtue of wins against Plattsburgh and Oswego, while Brockport beat Plattsburgh but lost to Oswego twice. Cortland would then come in 5th place and Brockport would get the final playoff spot. 
               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2015, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: Vandy74 on February 20, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
The score was a bit lower than you predicted magicman but a solid win for the Plattsburgh State nonetheless.  The camera never panned where you and I were sitting that night when Middlebury seemed to be picking up a quality win for SOS purposes.  And it was.  They just never managed another until the last day of the season.  What a difference 6 weeks can make.  The Reggie Williams show is always entertaining unless you're rooting for the other team.  Solid offensive effort from McIntosh so long as he wasn't trying to hit from 3-point land.  Brockport's Modzelewski a total non-factor.   I expect you're feeling a lot better than you were the last time I saw you. ;)  Congratulations and Go Cardinals!

Thanks Vandy and you're right about that low score but read my summary above. ;D

I was amazed at how the season turned out for the Panthers. I was hoping that they could get into the CAC tournament and make some noise and was so disappointed when they didn't. I feel for you but I know that Jeff Brown won't be down for long. You can root for the Cardinals next weekend and hopefully for a few more weekends after that. ;)

Plus K and I got your PM and one from Chris today thanks for 499 and 500. 8-) Who should I root for in the CAC tournament? I will await your suggestion.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2015, 11:34:03 PM
magicman...where can 1 go to find the rule/tiebreakers for SUNYAC seedings? Everything in SUNYAC seems to require special permission to "log in to". I tried calling you!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Vandy74 on February 21, 2015, 12:33:47 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 20, 2015, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: Vandy74 on February 20, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
The score was a bit lower than you predicted magicman but a solid win for the Plattsburgh State nonetheless.  The camera never panned where you and I were sitting that night when Middlebury seemed to be picking up a quality win for SOS purposes.  And it was.  They just never managed another until the last day of the season.  What a difference 6 weeks can make.  The Reggie Williams show is always entertaining unless you're rooting for the other team.  Solid offensive effort from McIntosh so long as he wasn't trying to hit from 3-point land.  Brockport's Modzelewski a total non-factor.   I expect you're feeling a lot better than you were the last time I saw you. ;)  Congratulations and Go Cardinals!

Thanks Vandy and you're right about that low score but read my summary above. ;D

I was amazed at how the season turned out for the Panthers. I was hoping that they could get into the CAC tournament and make some noise and was so disappointed when they didn't. I feel for you but I know that Jeff Brown won't be down for long. You can root for the Cardinals next weekend and hopefully for a few more weekends after that. ;)

Plus K and I got your PM and one from Chris today thanks for 499 and 500. 8-) Who should I root for in the CAC tournament? I will await your suggestion.



Magicman.  Great game analysis, as always.  I hadn't really studied the game stats.  0-14 and a 15 point win.  How many times has that happened?  Good trivia question.  NESCAC team to root for.  Obviously not Bates.  I have a father and two brothers who went to Amherst.   My best friend's father did as well and they were our next door neighbors.  I take some flack for it on the NESCAC board but I root for Amherst when they are not playing Middlebury.  But if the LJs are not your team I think it has been such a crazy year in the conference that just watching the tournament play out should be very entertaining.  A fun pick would be Wesleyan.  How the team that played last weekend could be the same one that lost by 37 to Middlebury is incredible but almost all teams in the conference have a similar sample of wins and losses that don't compute.  It's been that kind of a season.  :o

I hope to watch some of the Middlebury v Plattsburgh women's ice hockey tomorrow as well.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 21, 2015, 01:11:08 AM
Magicman, congratulations to your Cardinals on their regular season title!...although I know you are not satisfied yet.   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2015, 01:40:18 AM
Thank you AllStar, much appreciated. And of course the real satisfaction comes if we win 2 games next weekend. But first things first, we need to take care of business later today against Geneseo. If we don't win that automatic bid that comes with the SUNYAC championship we will need to embellish our record a bit more to try and get an at large bid, if needed. I'm thinking we're 18-6 and we need to win the Geneseo game, and the 1st game next Friday to get to our championship game. If we get beat in the championship game we'll be 20-7 and I think that will get us an at large bid. I hope we don't have to worry about that, but it's nice to have something to fall back on. 2 years ago we lost in the championship game and ended up 19-8. That was good enough to get us an at large bid and a home game in the NCAA's. The same thing happened last year but we had a better record...22-5 and that got us an at large bid and a 4 team pod at home. So I'd like to get that automatic bid this year and take the guesswork out of the equation.

Plus k for the well wishes.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 21, 2015, 06:48:54 AM
Magicman....saw your numbers thr other day while checking your team out.  See that Vandy and Middhoops got you covered to 500 :)
It's chilly in Florida...but not as bad as in upper NY....wife talks to. Our daughter in the Ithaca area daily to get a running temperature check.
This post is to follow the boys from Vermont advice.   I maybe missing some of the games as we will be on the road back to Winterpark....saw some pubs, museums and migrant snowbirds from up North :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2015, 01:09:47 PM
Sitting at SUNY Oneonta in hopes of seeing my Bengals clinch a home court playoff game.  Oneonta needs this game to go to the playoffs, so intensity is the word of the day.  On a more somber note, 1 of the Oneonta coaches just informed some Bengal coaches that before the game there will be a ceremony honoring Terrance Parker. He played for Oneonta last year and died from a stroke in August of last year. The Senior day ceremony will be in honor of him and his family who will be in attendance!

Prayers out from the Buffalo State crew to Terrance Parker and his family.  Sort of puts everything into perspective !

Go BENGALS!

And

God Bless the family of Terrance Parker!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2015, 01:48:30 PM
Eight scenarios that can take place as a result of today's games

The team in parentheses is the team that broke the tiebreaker when two teams had identical records. For example Oswego and Buff State both tied with 12-6 records and split their head to head meetings so you start with the top team and work down through the standings. In this case they were both swept by Plattsburgh, but Oswego swept Brockport, while the Bengals split with Brockport so Brockport is the tiebreaker that would give the Lakers the #2 seed over Buffalo State.  Also Brockport  and Geneseo tied with 11-7 marks and split their season series. Starting at the top, Brockport split with Plattsburgh while Geneseo got swept by Plattsburgh which makes Plattsburgh the tiebreaker giving Brockport the 4th spot and Geneseo 5th place.   

Scenario 1
BSC, Plt and  Bpt win

Plt (14-4)            1 
Osw 2 (12-6)         2 (Bpt tiebreaker)
BSC (12-6)            3
Bpt (11-7)            4 (Plt tiebreaker)
Gen (11-7)            5
Cor (10-8)            6


Scenario 2
BSC, Gen, and Bpt win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2 (Plt )
Osw (12-6)            3 (Bpt )      
BSC (12-6)            4
Bpt (11-7)            5
Cor (10-8)            6


Scenario 3
BSC, Plt, and Pot win

Plt (14-4)            1
Osw (12-6)            2 (Bpt)
BSC (12-6)            3
Gen (11-7)            4
Cor(10-8)            5 (Osw)   
Bpt (10-8)            6


Scenario 4
BSC, Gen and Pot win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2 (Plt)
Osw (12-6)            3 (Bpt)
BSC (12-6)            4
Cor (10-8)            5 (Osw)
Bpt (10-8)            6


Scenario 5
One, Plt and Bpt win

Plt (14-4)            1
Osw (12-6)            2
Bpt (11-7)            3 (Plt)
Gen (11-7)            4 (One)
BSC (11-7)            5
One (10-8)            6 (Cor)


Scenario 6
One, Gen and Bpt win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2 (Plt)
Osw (12-6)            3
Bpt (11-7)            4 )Plt)
BSC (11-7)            5
One (10-8)            6


Scenario 7
One, Plt and Pot win

Plt (14-4)            1
Osw (12-6)            2
Gen (11-7)            3
BSC (11-7)            4
Bpt (10-8)            5 (One/Cor)
One (10-8)            6 (Cor)


Scenario 8
One, Gen and Pot win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2
Osw (12-6)            3
BSC (11-7)            4
Bpt (10-8)            5 (One/Cor)
One (10-8)            6 (Cor)


If Brockport Loses, and Oneonta State wins then Brockport, Oneonta and Cortland will all end up with 10-8 records. If that happens then we see how each team did against the other 2 teams. Brockport beat Oneonta twice and split with Cortland so they would have a 3-1 record. Oneonta beat Cortland twice and lost to Brockport twice so they would have a 2-2 record.  Cortland would end up with a 1-3 record against the other two teams. So Brockport would come in 5th place, Oneonta would take the 6th spot and Cortland would end up in 7th position and out of the playoffs.

The New Paltz-Fredonia game has no bearing on the playoffs because the Hawks loss to Buffalo State last night eliminatd them from playoff consideration. They can only get to 9 wins if they beat Fredonia today and the 6th place team will have 10 wins.

I believe that covers every possible scenario.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2015, 02:15:50 PM
Now that all the possible scenarios have been put out there this is how I think things end up.


1.  Plattsburgh    14-4     The Cardinals take care of Geneseo today by a 75-68 final

2.  Oswego          12-6    The idle Lakers will get the 2nd seed and a bye into the semi-final round.

3.  Brockport        11-7    The Golden Eagles take care of Potsdam by a 72-62 score and get a home playoff game

4.  Geneseo          11-7    Genseo despite the loss to the Cardinals also end up with a home playoff game

5.  Buffalo State    11-7    The Bengal lose at Oneonta by an 86-83 final  and will  travel to Geneseo on Tuesday

6.  Oneonta          10-8     These Red Dragons have more to play for than the Bengals doand win a close one.

7. Cortland           10-8     These Red Dragons will be the biggest fans that Buffalo State will have today, but they
                                      come up short in the end.

8.  New Paltz         9-9      They win their finale over Fredonia by a 75-62 final score. Too little too late.

9  Potsdam State    1-17    There's always next year

10. Fredonia          1-17    Same as above. I put them in 10th because Potsdam had 2 wins against D3 teams and
                                      the Blue Devils only had 1. That win against Pitt-Titusville wasn't much better than a scrimage.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2015, 04:55:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 21, 2015, 01:48:30 PM
Eight scenarios that can take place as a result of today's games

The team in parentheses is the team that broke the tiebreaker when two teams had identical records. For example Oswego and Buff State both tied with 12-6 records and split their head to head meetings so you start with the top team and work down through the standings. In this case they were both swept by Plattsburgh, but Oswego swept Brockport, while the Bengals split with Brockport so Brockport is the tiebreaker that would give the Lakers the #2 seed over Buffalo State.  Also Brockport  and Geneseo tied with 11-7 marks and split their season series. Starting at the top, Brockport split with Plattsburgh while Geneseo got swept by Plattsburgh which makes Plattsburgh the tiebreaker giving Brockport the 4th spot and Geneseo 5th place.   

Scenario 1
BSC, Plt and  Bpt win

Plt (14-4)            1 
Osw 2 (12-6)         2 (Bpt tiebreaker)
BSC (12-6)            3
Bpt (11-7)            4 (Plt tiebreaker)
Gen (11-7)            5
Cor (10-8)            6


Scenario 2
BSC, Gen, and Bpt win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2 (Plt )
Osw (12-6)            3 (Bpt )      
BSC (12-6)            4
Bpt (11-7)            5
Cor (10-8)            6


Scenario 3
BSC, Plt, and Pot win

Plt (14-4)            1
Osw (12-6)            2 (Bpt)
BSC (12-6)            3
Gen (11-7)            4
Cor(10-8)            5 (Osw)   
Bpt (10-8)            6


Scenario 4
BSC, Gen and Pot win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2 (Plt)
Osw (12-6)            3 (Bpt)
BSC (12-6)            4
Cor (10-8)            5 (Osw)
Bpt (10-8)            6


Scenario 5
One, Plt and Bpt win

Plt (14-4)            1
Osw (12-6)            2
Bpt (11-7)            3 (Plt)
Gen (11-7)            4 (One)
BSC (11-7)            5
One (10-8)            6 (Cor)


Scenario 6
One, Gen and Bpt win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2 (Plt)
Osw (12-6)            3
Bpt (11-7)            4 )Plt)
BSC (11-7)            5
One (10-8)            6


Scenario 7
One, Plt and Pot win

Plt (14-4)            1
Osw (12-6)            2
Gen (11-7)            3
BSC (11-7)            4
Bpt (10-8)            5 (One/Cor)
One (10-8)            6 (Cor)


Scenario 8
One, Gen and Pot win

Plt (13-5)            1
Gen (12-6)            2
Osw (12-6)            3
BSC (11-7)            4
Bpt (10-8)            5 (One/Cor)
One (10-8)            6 (Cor)


If Brockport Loses, and Oneonta State wins then Brockport, Oneonta and Cortland will all end up with 10-8 records. If that happens then we see how each team did against the other 2 teams. Brockport beat Oneonta twice and split with Cortland so they would have a 3-1 record. Oneonta beat Cortland twice and lost to Brockport twice so they would have a 2-2 record.  Cortland would end up with a 1-3 record against the other two teams. So Brockport would come in 5th place, Oneonta would take the 6th spot and Cortland would end up in 7th position and out of the playoffs.

The New Paltz-Fredonia game has no bearing on the playoffs because the Hawks loss to Buffalo State last night eliminatd them from playoff consideration. They can only get to 9 wins if they beat Fredonia today and the 6th place team will have 10 wins.

I believe that covers every possible scenario.

Wow......this looks familiar!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2015, 01:19:09 PM
SUNYAC results from Saturday.                     Scenario # 6 was the winner

Geneseo State 80 Plattsburgh State 73

Oneonta State 81  Buffalo State 77

Brockport State 97 Potsdam State 59

New Paltz State 70 Fredonia 57



SUNYAC FINAL STANDINGS

1.  Plattsburgh State  13-5   18-7
2.  Geneseo State     12-6   16-9        Wins the tiebreaker over Oswego by virtue of a win against Plattsburgh
3.  Oswego State      12-6   16-9        The Lakers split with Geneseo and were swept by Plattsburgh
4.  Brockport State    11-7   14-11       Wins the tiebreaker over Buffalo St. by virtue of a win against Plattsburgh
5.  Buffalo State        11-7   15-9         The Bengals split with Brockport and were swept by Plattsburgh
6.  Oneonta State     10-8   13-12       Wins the tiebreaker over Cortland by sweeping them 2-0 in reg. season
7.  Cortland State     10-8   17-8
8.  New Paltz State    9-9   11-14
9.  Potsdam State     1-17   2-22
9.  Fredonia State     1-17   2-22

SUNYAC PLAYOFF SCHEDULE

SUNYAC Semifinals to be February 27th and 28th at #1 seed Plattsburgh State

First Round Tuesday February 24th

#6 Oneonta State  @ #3 Oswego State    7:00 PM

#5 Buffalo State  @  #4 Brockport State   7:00 PM


Semifinals Friday February 27th

Highest remaining seed vs  #2 Geneseo State     5:30 PM

Lowest remaining seed @ #1 Plattsburgh State   7:30 PM


Championship Game Saturday February 28th

Semifinal winners   4:00 PM 




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 24, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
So I don't post on the d3 BB board at all, but I'm curious after reading the Pool C board on the other thread that Plattsburgh isn't mentioned at all, even in the post about Pool A team's shot at Pool C.  Do they have to win the tourney to get into the NCAAs?  Would the East Region really not get any at-large bids?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2015, 12:10:55 PM
It wouldn't be the first time a region didn't get any bids... Atlantic didn't get any last year... Mid-Atlantic got one.

I am not sure the East Region is in a position where at large bids should be expected... but I need to dive into the numbers more.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
It's certainly possible that a small region such as the Atlantic or East could get shut out of at-large bids in any given year. With seven losses already and an eighth loss which would toss them into Pool C, Plattsburgh would not be in great shape for an at-large bid.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
It's certainly possible that a small region such as the Atlantic or East could get shut out of at-large bids in any given year. With seven losses already and an eighth loss which would toss them into Pool C, Plattsburgh would not be in great shape for an at-large bid.

If we get an 8th loss and end up in Pool C, which will happen if we win the semifinal game and lose in the championship contest, that will give us a 19-8 record. I agree with you, we won't be in great shape, but that is exactly the record we had 2 years ago when we won in the semifinals and lost to Cortland in the championship game and we did get a Pool C bid that year (and a first round home game). I'm hoping that history doesn't have to repeat itself, because we win the automatic bid this weekend. Unless of course we don't and then I hope it's deja vu all over again. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2015, 04:19:11 PM
A 19-8 record (.704) and a .526 SOS I think puts you right on the Mendozza line of getting into the tournament. I could see arguments for and against... though, I haven't looked at all of the data like vRRO and such.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 06:54:55 PM
Tonight's SUNYAC Tournament Games:

#5 Buffalo State at #4 Brockport State   7:00 PM

These teams split their regular season matchups with each team winning on the other teams court. When Brockport won the first meeting back on January 6th in Buffalo, the Golden Eagles built up a 17 point lead in the 2nd half, and held off a spirited Bengal comeback that got them as close as 4 points with 48 seconds left as Port won by a 77-70 final. The return engagement in Brockport only 10 days later was a complete turnaround as it was the Bengals who jumped all over Brockport early and often as they built a lead of 18 points in the 1st half. The 2nd half was more of the same as Buffalo State extended the margin to as much as 30 points. The final score of 85-69 wasn't indicative of just how dominant the Bengals were in this game. The oddsmakers have listed Brockport as a very slim 1 point favorite which makes it basically a tossup. 

I'm thinking that Buffalo State has a few more horses than Brockport does and although both teams overcame sluggish starts this season I believe the Bengals came on stronger in th 2nd half and will win this game by a  78-74 final score.       



#6 Oneonta State at #3 Oswego State  7:00 PM

Twice these teams have hooked up and Oswego has won both games in overtime. Actually needed 2 overtime periods in the first meeting.  Can Oneonta be that unlucky to lose to the Lakers for a third time? The oddsmakers say they will and have made Oswego a 5 point favorite. I think that the Red Dragons will pull off the upset here and finally exorcise their demons. I'm taking Oneonta by a 74-71 final score. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
Early scores in tonight's games

Buffalo State 24-20  8:39 left in the 1st half

Oneonta State 21 Oswego 17  8:11 left in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 07:44:16 PM
Halftime scores

Oneonta 32 Oswego 26

Lawrence Coleman with 7 points to lead the Red Dragons. Frankie Kelly, Mikey McElroy and Kareem Williams all with 6 each. Zach Mager with 5 points. Kelly and Williams with 6 rebounds apiece.

Dustin Pond leads Oswego with 9 points. Mark Candelario with 7 points and 5 rebounds.


Brockport and Buffalo State all tied up 37-37 at the break.

6 ties and 11 lead changes in the first half.

Lovell Smith with 9 points and 5 rebounds to lead the Bengals. Rod Epps with 7 points but has 3 fouls. Chris Cartwright with 6 points and Jordan Glover with 5.

Clifton Lyerly leads the Golden Eagles with 14 points and 4 rebounds. Patrick Modzelewski  with 11 points. Levi White with 6 points and 4 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 08:12:31 PM
Updates

Brockport 59 Buffalo State 58 with 8 minutes keft to play

Oneonta 53 Oswego 53  6:15 to go
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 08:24:35 PM
Brockport 69 Buffalo State 68   3:337 to go

Oswego 62 Oneonta 59   51 seconds left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 08:32:38 PM
Oswego makes their free throws down the stretch and defeats Oneonta by a 68-59 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
Brockport 78  Buffalo State 73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2015, 06:33:31 AM
SUNYAC Semifinals Friday February 27th at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall

#3 Oswego State (17-9)  vs  #2 Geneseo State (16-9)     5:30 PM

#4 Brockport State (15-11)  at  #1 Plattsburgh State (18-7)  7:30 PM


Championship Game Saturday February 28th 

Semifinal Winners   4:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2015, 12:27:02 AM
This story puts everything in perspective.

Jake Simmons, BUffalo State's All-time leading scorer, is fighting the fight, now, more than ever!

http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/features/2015/02/25/former-buffalo-state-star-overcomes-more-adversities/24002635/

I'm praying for him!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2015, 03:38:59 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 26, 2015, 12:27:02 AM
This story puts everything in perspective.

Jake Simmons, BUffalo State's All-time leading scorer, is fighting the fight, now, more than ever!

http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/features/2015/02/25/former-buffalo-state-star-overcomes-more-adversities/24002635/

I'm praying for him!!

You know that I always enjoy the annual visit when Buffalo State rolls into Plattsburgh. I always enjoyed it more when my favorite Bengal, Jake Simmons, was part of that visit. So sad to hear of his recent health problems but glad to see he's on the road to recovery...again.

Thanks for sharing that article, Champ. I was especially happy to hear there is a Jake the 3rd. Tell Coach Ansari to get that kid signed up to the Buffalo State family right away. You just know that he's going to be a chip off the old young block. ;) Give Jake my best if you get a chance. My thoughts and prayers are with him.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 27, 2015, 03:37:14 PM
Thinking hard about watching tHe late game....the game of the night, imo, on the flat screen.  Expect your team to hold serve....congrats on three things....winning the LEC pick'm contest, getting high speed internet at home, and finally having Plattsburgh host...getting the top seed in TE conference. 
Expect you will be at the game tonight...smile since I maybe watching for you!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2015, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: amh63 on February 27, 2015, 03:37:14 PM
Thinking hard about watching tHe late game....the game of the night, imo, on the flat screen.  Expect your team to hold serve....congrats on three things....winning the LEC pick'm contest, getting high speed internet at home, and finally having Plattsburgh host...getting the top seed in TE conference. 
Expect you will be at the game tonight...smile since I maybe watching for you!

amh63,

Thanks for the congrats. I will be behind the Plattsburgh bench all the way up to the top row so I can sit with my back against the wall of the gym. I will be the old guy, silver beard, with the tan Saratoga cap on wearing a dark green pullover. Not sure if where I sit is conducive to a good camera angle. Probably sitting next to me or close by will be Kyle Richardson's mom and dad.  Hope we in this one but Brockport matches up well with us and they have a great coach. Should be a good game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2015, 04:32:47 PM
SUNYAC Semifinals Friday February 27th at Plattsburgh State's Memorial Hall

#3 Oswego State (17-9)  vs  #2 Geneseo State (16-9)     5:30 PM


Geneseo brings their All American Gordon Lyons and a very disciplined offense against an Oswego team led by by their point guard Brian Sortino. Should be an excellent game and the oddsmakers have made the Knights a slim 1 point favorite. The teams split the season series each winning on the other's home court. I'm thinking that the Knights will win the rubber match as they seem to like Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall, but it's really a flip of the coin. Geneseo 73 Oswego 70

#4 Brockport State (15-11)  at  #1 Plattsburgh State (18-7)  7:30 PM

The Golden Eagles after losing last year's East Region Player of the Year and All American, John Ivy, as well as a number of other excellent players off of last year's 24-6 NCAA squad are right back in the thick of things once again. And the fact they are the lowest seed left doesn't mean a thing. Several years ago when the top 8 seeds made the conference tournament,  Brockport an 8th seed won it all. There is a reason that Coach Greg Dunne was not only the SUNYAC Coach of the Year last year, but the National Coach of the Year as well. He gets as much out of his players as anyone.

Coach Curle has had the most success of any SUNYAC coach since his arrival at Plattsburgh a dozen or so years ago. Plattsburgh will be trying to gain entry into the NCAA tournament for the 7 time is the past 10 years. No one in the East Region can match that record. This will be a great match up of not only two fine teams, but two outstanding coaches. The SUNYAC is lucky we still have them both.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 7 point home favorite but I think the game will be decided by fewer points than that. These teams also split their regular season games, each winning at home. Brockport whipped Plattsburgh by a 71-52 score in a game that Plattsburgh was never a factor. The Cardinals returned the favor just a week ago winning by a 60-45 margin that was closer than the final score indicates. I, course, will be picking my Cardinals to win this one but it won't be easy with the swarming defense and guard play that the Golden Eagles bring to the table. Plattsburgh wil take this one by a 68-63 final score.
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2015, 10:25:48 PM
SUNYAC Semifinal results.

#3 Oswego State 72  #2 Geneseo State 61


#1 Plattsburgh State 71  #4 Brockport State 50


Conference Championship Saturday Feb. 28th 4:00 Pm

#3 Oswego State at #1 Plattsburgh State
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 28, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
Magicman...your boys hold the post season in their hands.   Enjoyed watching last night's game, though the coverage was a little off at times.  First, the camera view is away from the bench side...therefore no shots of your smiling face! :). Seems NSN was adjusting the broadcast at times and the video went in and out of focus and there was an audio " ghost" at times.  The replay finally got to working with the actual broadcast breaks.
Plus K to even the numbers and the scenes on the sidelines.  seems both coaches were working the refs....was waiting for a tech on one.  How can coaches get away from standing on the floor of play during actions?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2015, 11:56:18 AM
#1 Plattsburgh State 71  #4 Brockport State 50

Defense had the featured role in his game as both teams were all over each other which led to a low scoring affair especially in the first half. The teams fought through an opening 7 minutes and the score was 7-5 in favor of the Cardinals. Brockport tied it at 7 on a Daniel Aiello layup, but the Cardinals were the first team to get into double figures when Ezra Hodgson hit a pair of free throws to make it 11-7 with 10:30 left in the half. The Cardinals continued their scoring surge and ultimately outscored the Golden Eagles 13-0 over a 6 minute period to move in front 20-7 with 6:20 to go. After Hodgson's free throws, the Cardinals got a jumper from Kyle Richardson, a layup by Hodgson, a 3 pointer by Jordan Moody, followed by another layup from Reggie Williams and Brockport never got the lead below double digits for the rest of the half. The teams went nito the break with the Cardinals up by a 29-19 score.

Jordan Moody, just as he did in the first half, started the Cardinals scoring in the 2nd by getting a fast break layup. Clifton Lyerly then hit a 3 pointer for Brockport to cut the lead to 9 points. That was as close as the Golden Eagles would get for the rest of the game. 5 straight points by Shamoy McIntosh, 3 points from Hodgson and another layup by Richardson completed a 10-0 run to increase the Cardinal lead to 19 points at 41-22 with 13:00 minutes to play. Brockport would never get closer than 16 points the rest of the way and the lead ballooned as high as 27 with 3:06 remaining. There would be no huge comeback similar to the one that occurred last year when Brockport overcame a 20 point Cardinal lead to win the SUNYAC Championship. Both coaches emptied their benches as Plattsburgh wrapped up the 71-50 win.

Jordan Moody was the games' high scorer with 19 points (7x16 fg, 3x7 3's, 2x2 ft) and 4 rebounds. Kyle Richardson, on crutches just a week ago after a nasty fall against Geneseo, came off the bench to score 11 points 5x7 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x5 ft),
grab a game high, 7 rebounds, and record 3 steals in 22 minutes of court time. Big man Reggie William had 10 points (2x8 fg, 6x8 ft), 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a block. The X-Man, Xavier Thomas, had 8 points ( 1x4 fg, 6x6 ft) 5 rebounds, 3 spectacular blocks, 2 steals and 1 assist in 19 minutes off the bench. Shamoy McIntosh, came on strong in the 2nd half to finish with 7 points, 5 rebounds and 3 steals. Point Guard Mike Mitchell did likewise. After ending the 1st period with no points or rebounds, Mitchell scored 6 points and had 5 rebounds in the 2nd half. He also added to his SUNYAC leading assist total with a game high 8 dimes.

Brockport was led by freshman Hamed Shamseldin who came off the bench each half and provided a spark for the Golden Eagles. He ended up with 16 points (5x11 fg, 1x3 3's, 5x6 ft) and 4 rebounds in 26 minutes on the court. Patrick Modzelewski had 12 points (4x12 fg, 2x6 3's, 2x3 ft) and 5 rebounds. Levi Pace had 4 points, 7 rebounds and a pair of blocks. Clifton Lyerly was in early foul trouble and only scored 4 points with 6 rebounds. Mike Gallagher had 6 points on a pair of 3 pointers.

Plattsburgh held the Golden Eagles to a 17x57 field goal effort resulting in a 29.8% mark. Tough to win when the ball isn't falling through the hoop. Brockport was 7x23 from long distance (30.4%) and 9x13 from the line (69.2%)

The Cardinals didn't shoot much better from the field going 20x55 (36.4%). They were 5x15 from downtown (33.3%) and 26x32 from the line (81.3%), one of their best efforts all year from the charity stripe.

Plattsburgh won the rebounding battle 45-35 and had 13 turnovers to 17 for Brockport.

Plattsburgh improves to 19-7 and will face off against Oswego at 4:00 PM this afternoon for the SUNYAC Championship.

Brockport ends their season with a 15-12 record. They had a starting five that consisted of 4 sophomores and a junior. They only lose 2 players off this years' roster and the freshman, Shamseldin, that came off the bench, will only get better. They will be a force to reckon with next year in the SUNYAC and will be right back in the thick of the playoff picture.                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2015, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: amh63 on February 28, 2015, 10:24:52 AM
Magicman...your boys hold the post season in their hands.   Enjoyed watching last night's game, though the coverage was a little off at times.  First, the camera view is away from the bench side...therefore no shots of your smiling face! :). Seems NSN was adjusting the broadcast at times and the video went in and out of focus and there was an audio " ghost" at times.  The replay finally got to working with the actual broadcast breaks.
Plus K to even the numbers and the scenes on the sidelines.  seems both coaches were working the refs....was waiting for a tech on one.  How can coaches get away from standing on the floor of play during actions?

amh63,

Yes they do and even with a loss today we still may be alive for a Pool C bid as our 19-8 record (with a loss ) is what we were 2 years ago after losing in the championship game and we got in that year. We even hosted (and won) a first round game before losing to your LJ's the year they won the title.

Yes, the camera usually doesn't show the side of the court I'm on because I sit behind the team bench. I thought that maybe once in a while they might show that side of the gym. It seems like there is more than one camera but some of the others may be from different organizations such as the schools or local tv stations.

Coaches always get away with that. Also get away with staying in the designated areas they are supposed to stay in.

Hope we can walk away with the SUNYA crown later today. I'm leaving in a short while to go to the game. Will be a close one today I think. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2015, 02:38:25 PM
Championship game today at 4 PM

Oswego State at Plattsburgh State

Oswego beat Oneonta State three times this year to get to this point. All of them were very close games. I'm hoping that the Cardinals can pull off the same kind of threepeat against the Lakers. Both of the regular season games went Plattsburgh's way but they were close games with the outcome in doubt until the final minutes. I expect more of the same today. The Cardinals need to keep Brian Sortino and Kyle Covley under control. Lakers need to find a way to clamp down on Reggie Williams and Jordan Moody. Both teams have numerous players that can hurt you however, so limiting the leading scorers won't guarantee you a win.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a slim 4 point favorite which is basically the home court advantage. Plattsburgh has won 5 of the past 6 meetings, previous to that the Lakers had won 4 in a row. I'm hoping it's more of the former than the latter and the Cards make it 6 of the last 7. Plattsburgh wins a tight one 75-70.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2015, 08:55:34 PM
SUNYAC Championship

Oswego State 70 Plattsburgh State 58

Congratulations to the Lakers for winning the Conference Championship. They played a great game and were the better team today. I hope they represent the SUNYAC well and win a few games for all of us.



 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on March 02, 2015, 04:20:24 PM
Well, I was still hoping Plattsburgh would sneak in with one of those last Pool C bids.  It's been eye-opening getting more into the Division III basketball process.  As with hockey (which I follow more closely), if you don't win your conference, you have no one to blame but yourself!  See you in 2015-2016! 

Good luck to the Lakers in the tournament!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 03, 2015, 06:19:15 AM
And the Bears finished at 2-22.  So so sad that our storied program would ever finish this low.  I can only hope and pray that one day we will once again reach the pinnacle.  As for the SUNYAC, just one bid will be the norm with only 19 at large bids unless there are two SUNYAC programs that can run the field on the rest of the conference.  As I have stated before the SUNYAC plays too many games against itself which hurts its chances come post season.  Then there is always the ECAC tournament for those teams in the east that do not make it to the dance.  Good Luck to Oswego in the Dance and Plattsburgh in the ECAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: bearnation on March 03, 2015, 06:19:15 AM
And the Bears finished at 2-22.  So so sad that our storied program would ever finish this low.  I can only hope and pray that one day we will once again reach the pinnacle.  As for the SUNYAC, just one bid will be the norm with only 19 at large bids unless there are two SUNYAC programs that can run the field on the rest of the conference.  As I have stated before the SUNYAC plays too many games against itself which hurts its chances come post season.  Then there is always the ECAC tournament for those teams in the east that do not make it to the dance.  Good Luck to Oswego in the Dance and Plattsburgh in the ECAC

Don't think there was an ECAC last year for our region.  Also believe that Plattsburgh's season is over even if they do have an ECAC tournament in our region.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on March 03, 2015, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 03, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: bearnation on March 03, 2015, 06:19:15 AM
And the Bears finished at 2-22.  So so sad that our storied program would ever finish this low.  I can only hope and pray that one day we will once again reach the pinnacle.  As for the SUNYAC, just one bid will be the norm with only 19 at large bids unless there are two SUNYAC programs that can run the field on the rest of the conference.  As I have stated before the SUNYAC plays too many games against itself which hurts its chances come post season.  Then there is always the ECAC tournament for those teams in the east that do not make it to the dance.  Good Luck to Oswego in the Dance and Plattsburgh in the ECAC

Don't think there was an ECAC last year for our region.  Also believe that Plattsburgh's season is over even if they do have an ECAC tournament in our region.

Pep looked into this because Alfred had declared for an ECAC Tournament both last year and this year. Last year, there was insufficient number of qualified teams for an Upstate ECAC Tournament. AU chose to participate but it meant the team traveling to compete in the Southwest ECAC Tournament with a Wednesday night game at Juniata in Huntingdon, PA, at AU's expense.

This year, once again, there was an insufficient number of Upstate teams declared. There were seven teams declared but then Hobart and Hartwick withdrew their declaration (before the Feb. 27 deadline) which left five, three of which did not have the minimum .500 record, leaving Alfred and SUNY Canton. AU was offered a spot in one of the other regions (Metro, New England and South) but the team decided that if it couldn't host a tournament (which it couldn't because AU is not in one of the aforementioned regions), the team would decline an invitation.

Mid-semester exams, with Spring Break beginning after classes Friday, March 6.....the boys made the right decision.

'Tis a shame that more Upstate teams don't declare. Any idea why, magicman? Would have loved to see Pep's Saxons take on SUNY Plattsburgh or Geneseo or Hobart in an Upstate tourney. Would have traveled to Hobart or Geneseo or maybe even Plattsburgh to see the Saxons continue, were they not hosting.

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2015, 10:13:45 PM
I'm not sure why, Pep it may be budget related. In the last 10 years the Cardinals have went to the NCAA tournament 6 times, and twice they had a losing record so they wouldn't have qualified. The only other year, besides this year, that they could have participated in the ECAC's was 2010-11 when they had a 17-10 record. They didn't declare for the ECAC's that year either. I will find out more, though, and let you know when I do.

By the way your Saxons had a pretty good year to finish 2nd in the E8. They've come a long way in the last few years. Congrats.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2015, 10:43:03 PM
The SUNYAC All Conference Teams were released today. Not a lot of surprises on this list. Congratulations to all.


1st Team
Name                          School             Position      Year     Height    Weight    Hometown
Christopher Cartwright  Buffalo State    G               Sr.       5‐‐8        165        Binghamton, NY
Gordon Lyons              Geneseo          F                Sr.       6‐‐5        210        Amherst, NY
Zach Mager                 Oneonta          G               Sr.       6‐‐2         175        New City, NY
Brian Sortino               Oswego           G               So.       6‐‐3         175        Fairport, NY
Reggie Williams           Plattsburgh      F               Sr.        6‐‐6         240        Yonkers, NY


Second Team

Roderick Epps             Buffalo State      G              Sr.        6‐‐4        175         Uniondale, NY
Lamard Herron            Cortland            G              Sr.        6‐‐1        170         Westbury, NY
Andy Drescher            Geneseo            G              Sr.         6‐‐4        205         Fayetteville, NY
R.J. Rosa                    New Paltz          G/F           Sr.          6‐‐3       160         North Branch, NY
Jordan Moody              Plattsburgh       G              Sr.          6‐‐2       185         Yorktown, NY



Third Team

Clifton Lyerly               Brockport          G/F            So.         6‐‐3       180          Inwood, NY
Patrick Modzelewski      Brockport          G/F            Jr.          6‐‐6       215          Brooklyn, NY
James McKenna           Geneseo            F               Sr.         6‐‐6       215           Huntington, NY
Taylor Sowah               New Paltz          G/F            Sr.         6‐‐4       215           Bronx, NY
Shamoy McIntosh         Plattsburgh       G               Sr.         6‐‐2       180           Floral Park, NY

Player of the Year    Gordon Lyons        Geneseo
Rookie of the Year    Ian Helps             Fredonia
Coach of the Year     Jason Leone         Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on March 03, 2015, 10:57:06 PM
Went to the ECAC Wikipedia page and they haven't had an ECAC upstate tournament since 2012.  Its very sad how the Division III world has changed over the years.  Only one SUNYAC team in the NCAA, no ECAC for teams that missed the cut and Potsdam State 2-22.  I believe its the beginning of the end.  So So sad. As the great Charlton Heston said "You blew it up! Ah, damn you. damn you all to ****!"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2015, 01:21:29 AM
Quote from: bearnation on March 03, 2015, 10:57:06 PM
Went to the ECAC Wikipedia page and they haven't had an ECAC upstate tournament since 2012.  Its very sad how the Division III world has changed over the years.  Only one SUNYAC team in the NCAA, no ECAC for teams that missed the cut and Potsdam State 2-22.  I believe its the beginning of the end.  So So sad. As the great Charlton Heston said "You blew it up! Ah, damn you. damn you all to ****!"


And I thought he said...."people, people....soylent green is people."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2015, 01:39:55 AM


Brian Sortino was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the final week of the season. Sortino was also chosen as the MVP of the SUNYAC Tournament. Here is the write up from the SUNYAC website.

MEN'S BASKETBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK – Brian Sortino (SO)

Oswego, G (Fairport/Fairport)

Brian Sortino was selected as the SUNYAC Tournament Most Valuable Player after winning the SUNYAC title Saturday. Sortino scored 17 points in the SUNYAC final against Plattsburgh. He shot 5-for-8 from the field, was 2-for-3 from beyond the arc and 5-for-6 at the line. The night before in the semifinal game Sortino went 8-for-16 (50.0%) from the field for a team-high 24 points.



Below is the All Tournament Team from the SUNYAC Tournament.

All-Tournament Team
SUNY Geneseo – Gordon Lyons
Plattsburgh State – Mike Mitchell
Plattsburgh State – Jordan Moody
Oswego State – Kyle Covley
Oswego State – Walter Sampson
MVP – Oswego State – Brian Sortino
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2015, 04:17:30 PM
East Region Teams in the NCAA Tournament tonight.

Oswego State vs Calvin College  at Mount Union College   5:30 PM

Good luck to the Oswego Lakers in tonight's NCAA game. The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 5 point underdog against Calvin College. Hope Oswego can pull off the upset.

Skidmore College vs Wesleyan University at Johns Hopkins University  5:30 PM

The Thoroughbreds are a slight 1 point favorite here and even though Wesleyan is the NESCAC champions they were only the 6th seed in their tournament. They got hot at the right time but Skidmore has the talent to play with these guys. Hope the Liberty League representatives can win one for the East Region.

#18 WPI at #20 St. John Fisher   7:30 PM

Glad the Cardinals got a home game here. This game matches up 2 teams that are both ranked in the D3hoops Top 25. The point spread favors the Cardinals by a slim 3 points. Fisher needs a big game from Keegan Ryan and Chaz Lott.

SUNY-Cobleskill at William Paterson   7:30 PM

The Fighting Tigers better sharpen their claws because they will have a tough time against the Pioneers from Willie Pat. The oddsmakers have made the Pioneers an 18 point home favorite. Maybe Cobleskill can take a page out of Morrisville's book and pull off the upset of another New Jersey Athletic Conference team like the Mustangs did last year when they knocked off Richard Stockton in the Sweet 16 and the year before that when they beat host Ramapo in the first round. Sure would like to see the NEAC conference take down an NJAC team for the 3rd year in a row. 

Of interest is that the last 2 times William Paterson made the NCAA tournament they were big favorites in the opening round. In 2009-10 a highly ranked 25-2 Willie Pat team, lost in the 1st round to Albertus Magnus when nobody had ever heard of Albertus Magnus. Two years later they were the NJAC champions of the 2011-12 season and again highly ranked. That William Paterson team was 24-3 and played at home against tiny Becker College (enrollment 1299 students) and Becker beat then by a 69-53 margin in the first round. So...hey you never know.         

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
Oswego has fought back from a 15 point 2nd half deficit to get within a single point of Calvin at 63-62 with 7 minutes left to play. Go Lakers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2015, 06:53:01 PM
Oswego just took their first lead of the game 64-63.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2015, 07:27:35 PM
Oswego State loses to Calvin by a 78-69 final score. Lakers played a good game but in the final 6 minutes couldn't buy a basket. Up 64-63 with 6:25 to go Oswego missed their next 6 shots from the field. A pair of free throws from Brian Sortino were their only points as Calvin built the lead to 73-66 with 1:57 to play. Kyle Covely finally hit a 3 pointer from the corner to make it 73-69 with 1:21 to go. That would be the final points the Lakers would get. Calvin missed on their next possession and the Lakers got the rebound only to turn it over. They had to foul and Jordan Brink made them pay as he hit 5 of 6 down the stretch while the Lakers could get nothing on their end.

Sortino and Covely shared scoring honors as both had 21 points for Oswego. Rashawn Powell had 11 points and a game high 12 rebounds.

Jordan brink led Calvin with 18 points. Connor Vanderbrug had 17, Jordan Daily had 13, Austin Parks had 12 and Tyler Dykstra had 10. Daily had a team high 11 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2015, 11:29:32 PM
Plattsburgh State gets a little revenge on Oswego State as the Cardinals defeat the Lakers 2-1 tonight in Plattsburgh and win the SUNYAC Hockey Championship and the automatic NCAA bid that goes with it. The Lakers should get an at large bid, though, into the NCAA tournament so the SUNYAC will have a pair of teams in that dance.

The Cardinals owe a big debt of gratitude to the Potsdam State Bears, who upset Oswego in the last regular season game, which gave the top seed to Plattsburgh and the right to host the Finals. Had tonight's game been in Oswego there might have been a different outcome. Thanks Bears.

Hope 1 of the SUNYAC entries can bring home a National Championship.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2015, 12:42:00 AM
In other news Coach Tom Curle's Plattsburgh State Cardinals just missed out on an entry into the D3 NCAA Basketball Tournament. That wasn't the way he wanted the basketball season to end.

However the fact that the Men's basketball team wasn't playing this weekend gave him the opportunity to travel to Brunswick, Maine to watch his daughter take part in the Women's NCAA Tournament. She is a  sophomore starter for the Bowdoin Polar Bears and last year he was unable to see his daughter play in the NCAA tournament as his Men's team was in the NCAA's and made it to the Sweet 16.

So it was off to Maine this weekend and last night Bowdoin defeated Babson 70-57. The coach's daughter, Marle, had 16 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal. A pretty good night by most standards.

Tonight they played Ithaca College and the Bombers were ahead by a 66-60 score with 2:40 left in the game. Bowdoin forward, Shannon Brady was fouled, went to the line, made her 1st free throw but missed the second. Marle Curle, grabbed the rebound and she was fouled. At one point this year Marle made 51 consecutive free throws and was ranked #1 in the nation in all divisions, men or women. She calmly made both free throws to cut the lead to 66-63. Ithaca came down, missed a shot that was rebounded by Brady, and when it was passed to Marle she pulled up just outside the 3 point line and buried one to tie the game. Bowdoin called a time out and when Ithaca inbounded the ball after the TO, Marle stole it, came down the court and drained another 3 pointer to make it 69-66. She had scored 8 straight points to bring the Polar Bears from the brink of elimination to the lead. Brady scored a free throw to make it a 2 possession game with 15 seconds left and Bowdoin won the game 70-66 to advance to the Sweet 16. Marle ended up with scoring honors with a career high 23 points, 5 rebounds, 4 steals and 2 assists.

The smile on Coach Curle's face after the game was bigger than that fabled Cheshire Cat.

His team made it to the Sweet 16 last year. His daughter's team has made it that far at least this year.

Incidentally Marle has made 75 of 83 attempts from the free throw line this year and when the NCAA updates their statistics she will be #3 in the nation with a percentage of 90.3%.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 09, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
Magicman...thought I could catch you better here.  Saw the surprise? of M. Curle's efforts on the WBB CAC board.  Was going to mention her great performance in her recent games...one against Amherstin particular.  Thought you would be all over it so did not post you.  Surprised the LJs  by her outside shooting.....not seen often in her previous games at Bowdoin...as well as her assertiveness on offense.
In any case....Bowdoin and Amherst are in the same bracket...Monclair State is the site.  Been thinking about making the drive up to see the Amherst game on Friday.  Wife not thrilled with the idea....4 plus hrs and then a return drive.  Bad weather on Sat.  Expect Coach Curle's will make the Trip?
Oh yes...saw the NCAA Men's Ice Hockey brackets are out.   Plattsburg is in the same bracket as Amherst. The Jeffs get a bye and if they win the next game....a matchup with your Cardinals may happen.  Amherst has not done well against teams called Cardinals lately.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2015, 06:47:00 AM
Quote from: amh63 on March 09, 2015, 03:43:21 PM
Magicman...thought I could catch you better here.  Saw the surprise? of M. Curle's efforts on the WBB CAC board.  Was going to mention her great performance in her recent games...one against Amherstin particular.  Thought you would be all over it so did not post you.  Surprised the LJs  by her outside shooting.....not seen often in her previous games at Bowdoin...as well as her assertiveness on offense.
In any case....Bowdoin and Amherst are in the same bracket...Monclair State is the site.  Been thinking about making the drive up to see the Amherst game on Friday.  Wife not thrilled with the idea....4 plus hrs and then a return drive.  Bad weather on Sat.  Expect Coach Curle's will make the Trip?
Oh yes...saw the NCAA Men's Ice Hockey brackets are out.   Plattsburg is in the same bracket as Amherst. The Jeffs get a bye and if they win the next game....a matchup with your Cardinals may happen.  Amherst has not done well against teams called Cardinals lately.

amh63,

I was hoping it would be my Cardinals that took out your Lord Jeffs this year as a form of payback for the past 2 years. At least I can take solace in the fact that it was a Cardinal team that did so. Also that a local young man from my hometown (Keegan Ryan) played on the St John Fisher team. And one more Cardinal connection, St John Fisher's Coach Kornaker was a former assistant to Plattsburgh's Coach Curle many years ago.

Marle Curle's big weekend was no surprise to her fans here in the North Country. We're used to seeing her just take over a game. As her coach said in the post game interview "Marle just refused to lose". As the point guard for Bowdoin she does a great job of getting the ball to the right person at the right time and when necessary taking the ball to the hoop or stepping back for those 3 pointers. Against Ithaca she made a number of drives to the basket because she could get by her defender. When, near the end of the game, her defender was giving her too much room, she just took the open looks from behind the arc. Here's a link to the highlights and post game interviews of the Ithaca game. The video shows the highlights, the Ithaca interview and then the Bowdoin interview.

http://athletics.bowdoin.edu/sports/wbkb/2014-15/releases/201503078xylmi

I knew that the Sectional was going to be at Montclair State as they were the highest ranked team and it is centrally located among the 4 teams. Both of the NESCAC teams have their work cut out for them. Bowdoin, especially, since they have to play the host team on Friday. Hoping for an all NESCAC Saturday game. And yes Coach Curle and his wife will make the trip to Montclair New Jersey for the game.

Regarding the NCAA Hockey Tournament....Plattsburgh and Amherst may end up facing one another again but if they do it will be for the National Championship. Not sure where you were looking but they are not in the same bracket as Amherst. Both Plattsburgh and Amherst will have to win 2 games each to get to the Final. Would love to see that happen since the Cardinals can make up for that tie game back on January 3rd, that ended with the LJ's winning a shootout. ;D

Plattsburgh Women's Hockey team also in the NCAA's looking to defend their National Championship. No Amherst in that one but the CAC still has 2 teams in it with Middlebury (in our bracket) and Trinity (in the other bracket).

Both Cardinal Hockey teams get to host a game. The Plattsburgh Women (23-2-2) and winners of the ECAC West are probably the #1 seed in the tournament will host St. Thomas on Saturday, March 14th.

The Plattsburgh Men (20-5-2) and SUNYAC champions will host the winner of the game between Trinity and Nichols. That game will be on Saturday, March 21st.

Your Amherst team will play the winner of the Norwich/Plymouth State game also on the 21st. I'm guessing that will be Norwich. Good luck to your LJ's at least through the first 2 games. ;D             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2015, 04:20:52 PM
D3hoops has released their All Region Teams. Here's the one from the East Region. No surprises here. Too many good players and never enough awards to go around. I could easily come up with 15 more players that deserve to be mentioned for their achievements both on and off the court. Congratulations to all the players on this list, plus all the players and coaches who didn't make this list, for giving me so many hours of enjoyment through this long cold winter here in the North Country. Next season's first practice is only 213 days away. ;) 


March 16, 2015
D3hoops.com 2015 men's All-East Region team



Players were nominated for these awards by the Sports Information Directors at the various schools.

Player of the Year: Gordon Lyons, Geneseo State
Coach of the Year: Rob Kornaker, St. John Fisher
Rookie of the Year: Ian Helps, F, Fredonia State

First team     
Pos.   Player          School       Yr. Hometown
G Aldin Medunjanin Skidmore Jr. New York, N.Y.
G John Coleman Clarkson Sr. Potsdam, N.Y.
F Keegan Ryan St. John Fisher So. Plattsburgh, N.Y.
F Gordon Lyons Geneseo State Sr. Amherst, N.Y.
F Evan Kupferberg NYU Jr. Boca Raton, Fla.

Second team     
Pos.   Player       School       Yr.    Hometown
G Brian Sortino Oswego State So. Fairport, N.Y.
G Zach Mager Oneonta State Sr. New City, N.Y.
F CJ Dunston Lancaster Bible Jr. Elkton, Md.
F Mitch Ford Nazareth Jr. Victor, N.Y.
F Reggie Williams Plattsburgh State Sr. Yonkers, N.Y.

Third team     
Pos.    Player         School        Yr.     Hometown
G Chris Cartwright Buffalo State Sr. Binghamton, N.Y.
G Trey Gordon Gallaudet Jr. Talladega, Ala.
G Connor Rehbaum Hobart Sr. Cheektowaga, N.Y.
G Chaz Lott St. John Fisher Jr. Wynanskill, N.Y.
F Maurice Mills Nazareth Jr. Utica, N.Y.

Here's a link to the complete list of All Region Teams:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2014-15/index

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2015, 01:15:16 PM
Congratulations to the following players from the East Region who, today, were chosen as All Americans by the National Association of Basketball Coaches.

Gordon Lyons senior forward from Geneseo State who was selected as an NABC 1st Team All American

John Coleman senior forward from Clarkson College who was selected as an NABC 2nd Team All American

Keegan Ryan sophomore forward from St. John Fisher College who was selected as an NABC 3rd Team All American

Here' a link to the complete list of All Americans:

http://static.psbin.com/1/5/jqtd9kjc8xjjmf/NABC_Announces_2015_Coaches-_Division_III_All-America_Teams.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2015, 05:53:37 PM
The D3hoops All American Teams were released today, just prior to the National Championship game. The East Region had 2 players receive honors.

Gordon Lyons from Geneseo State was named to the D3hoops All American 2nd Team.

Keegan Ryan from St. John Fisher was named as a  D3hoops Honorable Mention All American

Nice to see these guys make it as one of the top 25 players in the country. Congratulations.

Here is a link to the complete list of All Americans:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/2015   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 13, 2015, 05:05:31 AM
Sixty Three more days until the 1st day of basketball practice. All ten of the SUNYAC schools have released their 2015-16 basketball schedule. Once again it looks like Plattsburgh State has scheduled the strongest non-conference schedule of any team in the YAC.

The Cardinals open their season at home against Clarkson on November 17th, as the Golden Knights, with a new head coach last year, have decided to renew the rivalry that the previous coach abruptly canceled after the 2010-11 season. Clarkson came in 3rd place in the Liberty League last season and made it to the championship game of the conference tournament losing to Skidmore by a 68-64 score. The last time the  Cardinals lost to a team from the Liberty League was 7 years ago and have since went 9-0 against the conference. That record will be tested this year.

Plattsburgh will then travel to face that Skidmore team in Saratoga on November 23rd. The Throughbreds captured both the regular season and tournament titles in the Liberty League last year and won a first round game in the NCAA tournament. They lost at Johns Hopkins by a 61-58 margin in their attempt to make the Sweet 16. Skidmore will be looking to avenge an overtime loss to the Cardinals in Skidmore last year. Hopefully after playing the Thoroughbreds on their home court for 2 years in a row they will favor us with a visit to Plattsburgh next season.

The Cardinals will complete the Liberty League portion of their non-conference schedule as they host St. Lawrence in their annual North Country battle on December 1st. The Saints finished just out of the playoffs last year in the midst of a rebuilding campaign and will be a tougher team to deal with this coming season.

Plattsburgh travels to NESCAC foe Middlebury on December 12th to take on the Panthers, in a game that is always a tough contest. Middlebury did not have the success they were used to last year but they are once again expected to be near the top of their conference. They beat the Cardinals in Plattsburgh last year and will be even tougher to deal with on their home court.

The Cardinals travel to Florida over the Christmas break and will play two teams in Miami on December 19th and 20th. We will face Stevenson College from the Midddle Atlantic Conferences-Commonwealth, in one game, and tackle UMass-Dartmouth from the Little East Conference in the other game. Stevenson came in 2nd place in the Commonwealth Division of the Middle Atlantic Conferences last year and lost to Alvernia in the tournament championship. Stevenson then played in the ECAC-South tournament and won 3 straight games to win the championship and end the season with a 21-9 record.  UMass-Dartmouth finished in 3rd place in the always tough LEC conference and lost in the semifinals of the conference tournament to Rhode Island College. The Corsairs return 6 of their top 10 players including their leading scorer with 23.2 ppg and leading rebounder with 9.0 rpg. They will be another tough opponent. 
   
Plattsburgh will wind up the non-conference portion of their schedule on January 4th as they host the Trinity Bantams who were the winners of the NESCAC conference's regular season. Trinity lost to Wesleyan in the conference tournament semifinals but recieved an at large bid to the NCAA tournament. The Bantams won 3 straight games and advanced to the Elite Eight, before falling to Babson 76-69 in their bid to make the Final Four. With their 3 best scorers back and 6 of their top 8 point producers, it would appear that the Bantams will once again be a force to be reckoned with in the 'CAC.

The Cardinals will have their work cut out for them this year. They face 4 teams that won at least 20 games last year and all 7 teams had a winning record. Two teams went to the NCAA's and two others just missed. The overall record for the 7 teams was 128-63. I'll be happy if we can go 4-3 in those 7 games and anything better than that would be a bonus.

Oneonta with games against Hartwick, Williams, and St John Fisher also appears to have a decent out of conference schedule. In addition to those games they will play Manhattanville in a tournament at Franklin & Marshall but not sure if they will play F&M the next day. Nobody beats Franklin & Marshall on their home court. Oneonta also plays 2 games in Puerto Rico over the Christmas break but those teams have not been announced. Still I think the Red Dragons may have the 2nd best non-conference schedule.

New Paltz has also scheduled some pretty competitive teams. The Hawks will play Williams, Middlebury, Springfield College and Kean. They also have games against Vassar, Mount Saint Mary and Mount Saint Vincent. Hawks love their Mounts. :D Their schedule may end up being a bit tougher than Oneonta's depending on who the Red Dragons play in that other game at F&M and who they take on in Puerto Rico.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on August 24, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
Nice recap. +k
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 25, 2015, 02:57:38 AM
Thanks Gordon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 16, 2015, 05:08:17 PM
Ahhhh   The sound of basketballs hitting the hardwood.....  There is no better sound within the confines of the Buffalo State campus (for yours truly). Here's to hoping that the SUNYAC gets no less than 3 bids to the dance. In fact...I'm predicting it! (There I said it)!

GO   BENGALS!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 23, 2015, 07:36:25 AM
D3hoops released its Top 25 preseason poll on Thursday morning and St. John Fisher, an NCAA Sweet 16 team last year, is the only East Region team ranked as they open the year in the #22 spot with 132 points. Pat Coleman has released for the first time ever, the place by place voting totals for each team. This allows us to see that Fisher's highest ranking was from 2 voters who thought they were good enough to be #11 in the country, 2 other voters had them in the 12th spot. The Cardinals got votes from 15 of the 25 voters that make up the poll. With 3 starters returning including E-8 Player of the Year, junior Keegan Ryan, St. John Fisher will be looking to repeat the success they had on the hardwood last year.   

NYU just missed the Top 25 as they checked in the Others Receiving Votes category with 84 points which was good enough for 27th place. The Violets return 4 starters from last year's team that failed to make the NCAA's and finished 19-9. They were ranked briefly last year at #23 when they jumped from no votes in the previous poll to 69 points in week #8 after a short winning streak that gave them a 12-4 record on January 25th. They got some help right after Christmas when former Division I player Hakeem Harris joined the team. Harris scored 26 pts, 24 pts, and 24 pts in that 3 game winning streak that boosted them into the Top 25. He went on to lead the team in scoring with over 18 ppg. The team however quickly dropped out of the Top 25 and went 7-5 the rest of the year, They were runners up in the ECAC Metro Tournament losing to Staten Island in the Championship game by an 84-80 final score. Harris was listed as a junior last year but is the 1 starter that isn't returning for this season for reasons unknown to me. The Sporting News picked them to finish 10th in the country but most of us know that any polls on D3 basketball other than the D3hoops poll is usually worthless to consider. The University Athletic Association conference that NYU is in, lost a ton of talent last year, and the only team from the UAA that is ranked in the D3 hoops Top 25 is the University of Chicago at #17. So this could be the year that NYU may actually do some damage in the conference and return to the NCAA tournament, but it sure would have been easier if Harris had returned for his senior year.   

Oswego State was the only other team from the East Region that garnered any voter support in the poll as the Lakers were also listed in the Others Receiving Votes category after receiving 54 points. That puts Oswego State in 35th place to open the year. The Lakers are coming off a SUNYAC Championship and an appearance in the NCAA tournament where they lost a 1st round game to Calvin by a 78-69 score. They return just about their entire team with the loss of only 1 starter from last year's roster. They have their top 3 scorers back led by All Conference guard Brian Sortino who averaged 16.5 ppg last year and Walter Sampson who tossed in  10.3 ppg. The Lakers return 9 players that averaged double digit minutes last season so they will have a strong bench as well.

PS to Mr. Coleman: It was nice to see the breakdown of the voters placements. I hope you consider giving some thought to doing that every week as I'm sure most of us on these boards would greatly appreciate it (I know just what you need, more work to do to put out that poll). It is informative and since I've been a voter on the Posters' Poll for the past 6 or 7 years, we've released all the placements by our voters. It has always been interesting to see what others think about the various teams that make up our poll. Of course we have a much smaller number of voters than the 25 that you have to deal with but if you can't find the time to do it I understand. Just give it to Dave McHugh, he releases his vote for public perusal, he'd probably enjoy doing 24 more?  I'm sure he's got all kinds of free time on his hands.  ;D (I'm joking Dave, I'm Joking. I know how many things you have on your plate)         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 23, 2015, 11:56:47 AM
Ha... free time on my hands... what does that look like?! LOL

Per Harris - he has chosen to graduate this semester from what I was told. At some point in Division III, academics and an athlete's future takes priority... so I applaud Harris to make what was probably a very difficult decision.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 23, 2015, 03:48:41 PM
Thanks for the follow up info on Hakeem Harris and who can blame him for getting his degree a little quicker for all the right reasons.

And I'm amazed that you even find time to do all that you do. Plus K
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 23, 2015, 04:33:55 PM
Well considering how much time he has spent in college in general... I can understand he feels his time is finished. NYU would have been a fascinating team to watch had he returned for a full season. I think they will still be fun to watch, but they have never been able to put together 25-games no matter what their talent level. They are always a wait and see... and then wait again team.

And thanks... I actually wish I had more time to do all the things I want to do... though some health related things derailed some of my summer plans with this year in mind... so I am still playing catch up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 02, 2015, 04:22:02 AM
In order to reply to this post I copied it and dragged it over here from the Empire 8 Football Board.

Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 01, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on November 01, 2015, 01:45:00 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 01, 2015, 12:40:56 AM
Oh yes, Pep. I meant to congratulate you and your Saxons on the dominating win. After scoring 28 points in the 2nd quarter to make the score 35-13 at the half, they were able to stifle Brockport in the 2nd half by Forcing turnovers and going on long drives. AU held the ball for an amazing 23:32 in the second half, with drives of 6:45 and 7:07 included. I watched most of the game and Alfred really impressed me with how they were able to control the game to put it away.

Good luck to AU in the upcoming lottery that is the E8 championship.
And Magicman: What are you doing over here on the football boards? Haha! Hoping the Saxons can equal last year's fun ride into the E8 Tourney...won't be long now before it all gets started. Pep recalls the Plattsburgh State football Cardinals as they played Alfred when Sam Sanders was head coach after Yunie retired.

The Magic 1 is sort of lost until November 14th when SUNYAC hoops begin. If lucky you may hear from him again until the 17th when his Cards travel to Clarkson (and I have not doubt that he will make that westward trip).  Fear not Pep. In a couple of weeks you will have to come to the basketball boards to find him! ;)

The magicman is never lost, as he knows his way around these boards quite well. He also knows his way around New York State and particularly the North Country. So as much as I would love to travel over to Potsdam, the home of my alma mater, Potsdam State, and see old friends... I won't be going over there to watch the Cardinals take on Clarkson, which is also in Potsdam. If I did do what my friend from the Queen City is suggesting I would discover (to paraphrase a certain playwright) an empty gym lacking sound and fury and signifying nothing. You see, Clarkson will be coming to Plattsburgh to take on my Cardinals right here in the friendly confines of Memorial Hall on Nov. 17th to open the season. ;D

The other notable point I wish to make is that the SUNYAC does not begin on November 14th as stated in Mr BR's post. It begins on November 13th when New Paltz State hosts Vassar College at 7 PM. I will be couchside watching that game on my new computer to big screen TV hookup in my living room, now that high speed internet service has finally...finally, I say finally, after 30 years of waiting for it, arrived at the home of the magicman.  8-)

Now if only the rosters of the YAC teams would get posted so I can see who has what, so I can make some educated guesses as to the outcome of the league. This is what I see for now.

Oswego will come in first place, and Brockport will certainly push the Lakers for top honors. Plattsburgh, Cortland and Buff State will round out the top 5, not necessarily in that order. That's as far as I can see in my crystal ball as it is still a little cloudy. Once I can see some rosters and what the recruits look like (on paper at least) and who imported some transfers (I see the Bengals have at least 2 incoming transfers) I'll be able to make a better 1 through 10 forecast.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 02, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
Interesting that you have Oswego and Brockport 1-2 without seeing their 2015-16 roster. Maybe you know something that I don't know!!

P.s Your women's soccer team is heading to Buff State for the semi finals this Weds. Something tells me that you will be watching the game via your LARGE SCREEN T.V.! (no more watching at the "Music Shop"?). I cant believe that Time Warner plowed a 12 mile passage to your property  ::) ::)? I'll be sure to wave (or find your Plattsburgh State commentators, if they make the trip)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 02, 2015, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 02, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
Interesting that you have Oswego and Brockport 1-2 without seeing their 2015-16 roster. Maybe you know something that I don't know!!

I know that Oswego returns everybody off last year's SUNYAC Champs except Rashawn Powell. I think they will be better than they were last year. Coach Leone won with former Coach, Adam Stockwell's players. Now he's won with his own recruits. 

Brockport also returns a ton of talent, including their entire starting 5, their top 8 players and 10 of 11 guys that averaged double digit minutes last year. Most importantly they have Coach Dunne back and he'll be out to prove that his Coach of the Year award, 2 years ago, was no fluke. 

And I'd be surprised if you didn't know that. But if you didn't...now you do. ;D



Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 02, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
P.s Your women's soccer team is heading to Buff State for the semi finals this Weds. Something tells me that you will be watching the game via your LARGE SCREEN T.V.! I'll be sure to wave (or find your Plattsburgh State commentators, if they make the trip)

I may be home watching that game and the Men's soccer game at Oneonta at the same time. But I may be on the golf course playing a round of golf with Coach Curle since Indian Summer has decided to visit the North Country this week. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday all expected to be in the high 60's and low 70's. Need to golf when you can, these late fall days. :)



Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 02, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
P.s. no more watching at the "Music Shop"? I cant believe that Time Warner plowed a 12 mile passage to your property  ::) ::)?

You are right Time Warner didn't plow a 12 mile passage to me, however Charter Communications bundled my phone, cable and high speed internet service and ran a line about a 1000 feet long from the road I live on to my house which is set back from that road quite a ways. I've been waiting since 1984 for someone to do that. They finally stepped up to the plate in July of 2014 and told me I'd have cable and internet service by November 2014. Complications turned up and it was March of this year before it actually happened. Now I can sit at home in my recliner and bring up 5 windows (or more if needed) on my computer, on game nights, when the Cardinals are on the road and watch the entire SUNYAC conference on my big screen TV. No more late nights for me in the office of The Music Shop, on the computer there, because that's the only place I could get high speed internet. Technology has finally arrived at the home of the magicman. :o   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 02, 2015, 11:08:02 PM
The D3hoops preseason All American Teams have been released. Here are the representatives from the East Region.

St John Fisher's 6' 8" Junior forward/center Keegan Ryan was placed on the 2nd team.

Skidmore's Aldin Medunjanin a 6'4" Senior guard was named to the 4th team.

Evan Kupferberg a 6'6" Senior forward from NYU has also been chosen as a menber of the 4th team.

No one else from the East Region was selected. Here is the complete list:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2016
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 03, 2015, 06:02:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 02, 2015, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 02, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
Interesting that you have Oswego and Brockport 1-2 without seeing their 2015-16 roster. Maybe you know something that I don't know!!

I know that Oswego returns everybody off last year's SUNYAC Champs except Rashawn Powell. I think they will be better than they were last year. Coach Leone won with former Coach, Adam Stockwell's players. Now he's won with his own recruits. 

Brockport also returns a ton of talent, including their entire starting 5, their top 8 players and 10 of 11 guys that averaged double digit minutes last year. Most importantly they have Coach Dunne back and he'll be out to prove that his Coach of the Year award, 2 years ago, was no fluke. 

And I'd be surprised if you didn't know that. But if you didn't...now you do. ;D



Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 02, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
P.s Your women's soccer team is heading to Buff State for the semi finals this Weds. Something tells me that you will be watching the game via your LARGE SCREEN T.V.! I'll be sure to wave (or find your Plattsburgh State commentators, if they make the trip)

I may be home watching that game and the Men's soccer game at Oneonta at the same time. But I may be on the golf course playing a round of golf with Coach Curle since Indian Summer has decided to visit the North Country this week. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday all expected to be in the high 60's and low 70's. Need to golf when you can, these late fall days. :)



Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 02, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
P.s. no more watching at the "Music Shop"? I cant believe that Time Warner plowed a 12 mile passage to your property  ::) ::)?

You are right Time Warner didn't plow a 12 mile passage to me, however Charter Communications bundled my phone, cable and high speed internet service and ran a line about a 1000 feet long from the road I live on to my house which is set back from that road quite a ways. I've been waiting since 1984 for someone to do that. They finally stepped up to the plate in July of 2014 and told me I'd have cable and internet service by November 2014. Complications turned up and it was March of this year before it actually happened. Now I can sit at home in my recliner and bring up 5 windows (or more if needed) on my computer, on game nights, when the Cardinals are on the road and watch the entire SUNYAC conference on my big screen TV. No more late nights for me in the office of The Music Shop, on the computer there, because that's the only place I could get high speed internet. Technology has finally arrived at the home of the magicman. :o   

You must  not have considered 2014-15 starting pg Aaron White as a "starter -3rd on team in scoring and assists". He is no longer at Brockport. I imagine that there may be other surprises when their roster is posted. Just thought I'd share before you fall head over heels about a roster that might not exist the way you think it will exist, and making predictions based on that "faulty" info. Remember this is D3 hoops!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 03, 2015, 09:57:08 PM

Cortland took down Quebec-Montreal 79-58 in Monday exhibition with veteran cast and apparently one major addition -- 6-5 transfer J.P. Reagan, three-year starter at RIT. Reagan a Cortland native. Made Liberty League All-Frosh squad and was second team all-LL as soph when leading the Tigers in scoring at 14ppg on 16-9 outfit. Averaged 10.5 ppg and 6.5 rpg starting every game last winter when RIT split 26 contests. Strong outside shooter. Came off the bench Monday for seven points (1x1 3s) and four boards in 20 minutes.

RDragons (33x64fg, 10x21 3s) started returnees G. Carter (8pts, 6rebs, 5assts in 28'), sr. B. Estarfaa (last season's No. 2 scorer), S. Martinez. J. Morales, and 6-6 soph C. Joseph (10pts, 19'). Vet playmaker T.J. Hefele saw duty along with M. Kelly as skipper T. Spanbauer deployed squad of 15. Not seen was J. Prendergast, 6-7 frosh revelation last season whose leading scorer L. Herron and pivot M. McGowan departed. Corts 17-8 (10-8) in '14-15 and debut Nov. 14 at Utica
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 03, 2015, 10:24:37 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 03, 2015, 09:57:08 PM

Cortland took down Quebec-Montreal 79-58 in Monday exhibition with veteran cast and apparently one major addition -- 6-5 transfer J.P. Reagan, three-year starter at RIT. Reagan a Cortland native. Made Liberty League All-Frosh squad and was second team all-LL as soph when leading the Tigers in scoring at 14ppg on 16-9 outfit. Averaged 10.5 ppg and 6.5 rpg starting every game last winter when RIT split 26 contests. Strong outside shooter. Came off the bench Monday for seven points (1x1 3s) and four boards in 20 minutes.

RDragons (33x64fg, 10x21 3s) started returnees G. Carter (8pts, 6rebs, 5assts in 28'), sr. B. Estarfaa (last season's No. 2 scorer), S. Martinez. J. Morales, and 6-6 soph C. Joseph (10pts, 19'). Vet playmaker T.J. Hefele saw duty along with M. Kelly as skipper T. Spanbauer deployed squad of 15. Not seen was J. Prendergast, 6-7 frosh revelation last season whose leading scorer L. Herron and pivot M. McGowan departed. Corts 17-8 (10-8) in '14-15 and debut Nov. 14 at Utica

Appreciate the heads up Jdex...especially since Spanbauer still has last years roster posted!  >:( Should have known that he wasn't gonna stand pat!!   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 04, 2015, 01:03:51 PM
Continuing on the Cortland hopes ......

Sophomore import Zach Lydon, 6-9 transfer from LIU (4x8fg, 2x2 3s, 4reb, 1blk in 15' of Monday exhibition). Remember the name. Sees little action at D1 LIU, but a player! From quite the large (in more ways than one) athletic family, including younger brother Tyler Lydon AT SYRACUSE, who impresses earlier this week in 22' stint during Orange exhibition vs. LeMoyne. There are other younger Lydons. Mom Sue was thousand point scorer at Dutchess County CC. She and the family plan on plenty of Syracuse/Cortland visits.

Also at Cortland is Oswego transfer Justin Cooper who sees 10' court time Monday. Cooper was Lydon teammate at Pine Plains HS and promising frosh at Oswego last season till sidelined by broken foot.  Stay tuned ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 06, 2015, 12:01:35 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 04, 2015, 01:03:51 PM
Continuing on the Cortland hopes ......

Sophomore import Zach Lydon, 6-9 transfer from LIU (4x8fg, 2x2 3s, 4reb, 1blk in 15' of Monday exhibition). Remember the name. Sees little action at D1 LIU, but a player! From quite the large (in more ways than one) athletic family, including younger brother Tyler Lydon AT SYRACUSE, who impresses earlier this week in 22' stint during Orange exhibition vs. LeMoyne. There are other younger Lydons. Mom Sue was thousand point scorer at Dutchess County CC. She and the family plan on plenty of Syracuse/Cortland visits.

Also at Cortland is Oswego transfer Justin Cooper who sees 10' court time Monday. Cooper was Lydon teammate at Pine Plains HS and promising frosh at Oswego last season till sidelined by broken foot.  Stay tuned ......

Cortland sounds like they are loaded this year!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 06, 2015, 04:39:08 AM
Oswego State posted their roster and while I noticed that several players from last year are not on the roster, all 4 starters from last year that didn't graduate are back. Of the players that could have returned, but didn't,  only one, 5'9" reserve guard Ian Schupp, had meaningful minutes (16 mpg, 5.2 ppg). So 8 of their top 10 players return, with starter Rashawn Powell, who was a senior last year the only loss through graduation.     

The BIG surprise was the addition of forward Mykelle Krecko. Krecko could very well be the tallest player in the SUNYAC this season as he is a 6'10" 215 pound rebounding machine. Krecko played for Clinton Community College, here in Plattsburgh, 2 years ago and I was hoping he might transfer over to Plattsburgh State last year. Instead he went to DII Le Moyne College in Syracuse. Now he shows up on Oswego's roster. He appears in the team photo of Le Moyne's 2014-15 roster but his name has been deleted and he doesn't show up in their stat sheet from last year so I'm guessing he never played a minute for the Dolphins. (injury perhaps?) Oswego lists him as a junior so it would appear he has 2 years of eligibility left. At Clinton in 2013-14 Krecko averaged a double-double and the Clinton Cougars had one of the best years in school history. He routinely put up 15 to 20 points, with 15 to 20 rebounds and 4 to 8 blocks per game.

This is a write up from January 21, 2014 when he made the Athletes of the Week in the NJCAA Region III:

"Krecko led the Cougars to a 4-0 week averaging 22 points, 18 rebounds, 2 assists, and 6 blocks per game.  Over the weekend he helped lead the team to wins at #9 nationally ranked Mohawk Valley CC and Jefferson CC.  In the win at Mohawk Valley he scored 20 points on 10-11 shooting with 19 rebounds and 6 blocks.  He followed that against JCC with 20 points, 15 rebounds, and 8 blocks."

It would appear that the rich...just got richer. I had Oswego pegged as the preseason favorite to win the SUNYAC. With the addition of Krecko I'll be surprised if anyone can take them down. Perhaps Cortland with their new additions, especially the 6"9" DI transfer mentioned by jdex, will have a shot at doing so.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on November 09, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Quick note - Lydon played at Div. II LIU-Post, not Div. I LIU-Brooklyn.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on November 09, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 06, 2015, 04:39:08 AM


It would appear that the rich...just got richer. I had Oswego pegged as the preseason favorite to win the SUNYAC. With the addition of Krecko I'll be surprised if anyone can take them down. Perhaps Cortland with their new additions, especially the 6"9" DI transfer mentioned by jdex, will have a shot at doing so.         

Let's hope they stay undefeated for a long long time... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 09, 2015, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: FranElia on November 09, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Quick note - Lydon played at Div. II LIU-Post, not Div. I LIU-Brooklyn.

Thanks for the correction Fran. Must have been some wishful thinking by our friend, jdex. Doesn't matter where Mr. Lydon came from, at 6'9" along with his stats in last week's exhibition, he looks like a fine addition to the Red Dragon's roster.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2015, 12:17:02 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 09, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 06, 2015, 04:39:08 AM


It would appear that the rich...just got richer. I had Oswego pegged as the preseason favorite to win the SUNYAC. With the addition of Krecko I'll be surprised if anyone can take them down. Perhaps Cortland with their new additions, especially the 6"9" DI transfer mentioned by jdex, will have a shot at doing so.         

Let's hope they stay undefeated for a long long time... ;D ;D ;D

I'll agree to that first long which will get them to 11-0, but have to hope that the undefeated string comes to an end on 1-15-16. I'm sure you can figure out who they play on that night. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 10, 2015, 11:16:36 AM

Wishful thinking? Don't think so. At 6-9 and a player with 3-point range and a rebounder playing at D3 level following brief D2 stay.

And don't sleep on returning 6-6 C. Joseph either. Import J.P. Reagan of already known 6-5 quality. Also believe J. Prendergast in school. Awaiting roster

Appears RDragons could go big or small with quality. Yes, appears .........still to be determined .....but wishful thinker we are ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 10, 2015, 12:22:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 10, 2015, 12:17:02 AM
Quote from: hopefan on November 09, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 06, 2015, 04:39:08 AM


It would appear that the rich...just got richer. I had Oswego pegged as the preseason favorite to win the SUNYAC. With the addition of Krecko I'll be surprised if anyone can take them down. Perhaps Cortland with their new additions, especially the 6"9" DI transfer mentioned by jdex, will have a shot at doing so.         

Let's hope they stay undefeated for a long long time... ;D ;D ;D

I'll agree to that first long which will get them to 11-0, but have to hope that the undefeated string comes to an end on 1-15-16. I'm sure you can figure out who they play on that night. ;)

Or even possibly 12/4-5th??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 10, 2015, 05:59:23 PM

Yes, the 6-7, 220 returning soph J. Prendergast is listed on the now posted Cortland roster. A force as last season went along ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2015, 03:31:50 AM
Quote from: jdex on November 10, 2015, 11:16:36 AM

Wishful thinking? Don't think so. At 6-9 and a player with 3-point range and a rebounder playing at D3 level following brief D2 stay.

And don't sleep on returning 6-6 C. Joseph either. Import J.P. Reagan of already known 6-5 quality. Also believe J. Prendergast in school. Awaiting roster

Appears RDragons could go big or small with quality. Yes, appears .........still to be determined .....but wishful thinker we are ....

Only mentioned the wishful thinking remark in regard to post that Zach Lydon was a DI transfer from LIU, when he's actually a DII transfer from LIU-Post. Still, appears to be a player with game.

In reality, Coach Spanbauer appears to have positioned the Red Dragons for a major assault on the SUNYAC title, yet again. So no, I don't consider anything else that can be gleaned from your posts as wishful thinking. More like the old ELP recording...."Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends".  ;)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ucaafan on November 11, 2015, 04:09:23 PM
and one of my all time favorite songs - Karn Evil 9 - should be a good warmup song during layups. .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2015, 09:52:53 PM
Only 1 game on tap involving a SUNYAC team tonight as New Paltz takes on local rival Vassar College. If I had been on top of this I would have predicted a 73-65 win for the Hawks as they were favored to win by 6 points. I thought they returned more talent than Vassar and expected them to win by 8 to 12 points.

They were up 68-58 with 5:29 left in the game but allowed the Brewers to close to within a single basket with 3:40 left to play at 68-65. R.J. Rosa hit a baseline jumper for the Hawks to boost the lead back to 5 points but Vassar got a big 3 pointer with 57 ticks left from Erickson Wasyl to make the score 70-68. The Brewers got the ball back with 40 seconds to play after the Hawks missed on their next possession and had a chance to tie or win the game with a triple. They went for the win and missed a 3 point attempt with 23 seconds left, but got the rebound and called timeout with 18 seconds to play. They went inside after the TO and the layup attempt was blocked by Rosa. Again Vassar tracked down the ball as Wasyl got the rebound and missed another layup attempt. The ball was swatted back toward the half court line and Vassar grabbed it and took a time out with 2.4 seconds left in the game. A technical foul was assessed against Vassar for either taking a TO when they had none left or for taking too long coming out of the TO. With no commentary it was hard to tell what happened. The Hawks missed the free throw and Vassar got to inbound the ball from the halfcourt sideline. The tried a long 3 pointer which was off the mark and New Paltz came away with the victory.

The Hawks were able to overcome an 11 point deficit in this game which shows the talent that this team has when it's clicking on all cylinders. That's the good news. They were down 53-42 with 16:15 left to play in the 2nd half.   They proceeded to get their act together just in time and ran off a 17-2 run in a 5 minute stretch that made the score 59-55 in their favor. They built that advantage up to that 68-60 lead before allowing the Brewers to get back into the game with some poor shot selections and giving Vassar 2nd chance opportunities on the other end. They almost blew this game by not playing smart ball in crunch time. That's the bad news.

Overall a good outcome for the Hawks and SUNYAC as we get out of the gate with a victory for the Out of Conference portion of our schedule.

RJ Rosa led the Hawks with 27 points and 7 rebounds. Brandon Guest was next with 10 points. Andrew Seniuk and Alex Perlman both had 9 points. Keegan Donovan had 4 points and 6 assists. 

Vassar got 19 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists from Jesse Brown to lead the Brewers. Paul Grinde had 14 points and 13 rebounds to complete a nice double-double. Spencer Enhorn also had double figures with 11 points.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 14, 2015, 02:50:21 AM
Congrats on post 7,900 Magic! (even if this one wasn't the 7,900th  :P)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2015, 04:22:25 AM
Thanks 7, it just means I never shut up. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2015, 02:03:33 PM
6 SUNYAC teams get their 2015-16 campaign under way today. Here's some predictions of what may happen.

Oneonta State      Manhattanville      2:00 PM    at Lancaster Rotary F&M Tip-Off Tournament


The Red Dragons open their season on the road at the Franklin & Marshall Tip Off Tournament as they take on the Manhattanville Valiants.
The oddsmakers have the Red Dragons listed as a 9 point favorite against the Valiants but I think the game will be closer than that. Oneonta returns quite a bit from last years' team but did lose leading scorer Zach Mager and point guard Frankie Kelly. Back to lead the Red Dragons though is Mikey McElroy with his 14 ppg average from last season. He'll get help from Lawrence Coleman who also averaged double figures last year with 10 ppg and Jackson Zuvic wgo has averaged better than 8 ppg in his 72 game career. Kareem Williams (7.0 ppg)  and Jack Dignan (6.62 ppg) will provide some firepower as well. Newcomer Ian Schupp who transferred in from rival Oswego State will also add help in the backcourt.

Manhattanville also has a number of returning players and though they didn't have a stellar season last year only managing to record an 8-17 record, they did beat playoff team Brockport State 56-54 early last year. I believe the Valiants will prove to be a tough out in this tournament but I can see the Red Dragons squeaking out a 75-71 victory.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2015, 02:15:29 PM
 Geneseo State      Medaille      2:00 PM

The Blue Knights open up against Medaille in their annual rivalry and the point spread favors the Knights by a 5 point margin. Both teams lost a lot of talent so this is a tough game to handicap. I think that Geneseo with their half court sets and disciplined offense may win a close one here by a 68-64 final score. 
   
Point Park      Buffalo State      2:00 PM

I don't know much about the Point Park team. The bengals played them about 6 years ago and beat them 97-89. The Bengals were loaded that year and I'm not sure that this years' team is as good. Still I'm picking the Bengals to win by 4 points 84-80. That's the point spread that they are favored by according to the oddsmakers.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
Oswego State      St. Lawrence      4:00 PM

The Lakers open up at St. Lawrence and if they don't bring their "A" game they could have a long trip back to Oswego. The Saints return a lot of talent from a team that just missed out on the Liberty league playoffs last season and they will be looking to avenge a close 62-58 loss to Oswego from last year. In 2011-12 when the Lakers ran the table in the SUNYAC, they opened the season at St Lawrence and a Saints team that was 14-11 that year beat Oswego 66-62 to send them home with an opening game loss. The Saints would love to do so again. Knowing the history of these two teams the oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 4 point favorite heading into today's matchup. I think the addition of Mykelle Krecko, may give Oswego a hidden weapon that the oddsmakers were unaware of. I think the Lakers, with all their firepower, will take this game by a 75-67 final score.


Potsdam State      Drew      6:00 PM   Rose City Tip-Off Classic at Drew University

The Bears take on the tournament host Drew Rangers and it's never good when your first game of a 4 team tournament is against the host. That usually means that you are the weakest of the assembled teams and will hopefully be fodder for the home team to easily advance to the championship game of their own tournament. And when you look at the Bears' record for the past two seasons you certainly aren't intimidated by a team that has went 7-42.
The Rangers may be in for a surprise however as the Bears look like they may have brought in some decent recruits that could help out right away. Drew isn't exactly a big time program from a power conference and their 12-14 record in a conference that is ranked well below the SUNYAC  could leave them wishing they had discovered a bigger cupcake than the one they thought they were bringing in. Both teams bring back some talent from last year and it's just a question of who can get key contributions from the guys that are moving into starting roles and the new faces on board. The point spread has been set at 9 points for the home Rangers and while I can't ;pick the bears to win this game outright, I can see it being a close battle right to the end. I won't rule out an upset either but I see Drew with the benefit of some home cooking pulling out a 71-67 win. Hope I'm wrong on this one and that score gets reversed.

   
Cortland State      Utica      7:00 PM

The other Red Dragons hit the road to take on the Utica Pioneers a team they also opened up with last season. Those Dragons handled Utica rather easily winning by a 73-54 final. The oddsmaker have tabbed Cortland  as a 6 point favorite in this contest. I believe the Red Dragons have gotten stronger than the team that put together a 17-8 season a year ago. Likewise I'm not sure Utica will be as good as the 10-15 team that graced the hardwood a season ago. They lost 2 of their 3 top scorers and one of those was their point guard. I think that Cortland will dominate this game much like they did last year and expect them to pull out a double digit victory. I'll predict a 79-64 Cortland win here.   
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2015, 05:20:30 PM
Some results of the early games.

Oneonta fought back from a deficit against Manhattanville to post a 77-69 opening season win. I had this game as a 75--71 Oneonta pick and with 18 seconds to go the score was 75-69 and the Valiants had the ball, they missed a 3 pointer got the rebound and missed the putback that would have made it 75-71. An Oneonta player grabbed the rebound and was fouled with a couple of ticks left and made 2 free throws for the final score. I was almost perfect with my opening season pick. Glad that the Red Dragons were able to pull out a win here. Manhattanville had them on the ropes for a while but Oneonta was able to regain the lead and hold on down the stretch.

Geneseo was involved in another tight battle and the outcome was decided by exactly the 4 point margin I predicted. However, I was off the mark on the total, as the 89-85 final score was much higher than the 68-64 prediction I had. I didn't know these teams were going to put on a track meet. Still happy to see my spread hold up and that the YAC went to 3-0 on the season.


Not happy that the Bengals of Buffalo State were the first YAC team to lose, as they dropped a nail biter to Point Park, 91-89. Bengals built a double digit lead in the first half and went into the break up 46-35. They gave it all back in the 2nd period though and 1 basket extra as they were outscored 56-43 to make that 2 point difference at the end in favor of the visitors. Must have been an exciting game to watch but a bit disappointing for my Bengal buddy.  It was also the first loss of the year for the magicman as I had the Bengals winning a close one by an 84-80 final   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2015, 05:25:45 PM
An update on the Oswego-SLU game. The Lakers are in a battle but currently lead the Saints by a 59-55 margin with 3:40 to play in the  game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2015, 06:22:21 PM
What in hell is wrong with the Lakers?  ??? Doesn't anybody on that team read my predictions. I said they were going to win by a 75-67 final score and they go and win by a 73-67 final score. I'm going to have to speak with Mr. Sortino when he visits Plattsburgh. He missed 2 free throws in the final 26 seconds that would have given me a perfect score. Damn!!  :(

Nice win though, to go on the road, get the kinks out and win in the house of a decent team like the Larries.

Brian had 25 points and 4 assists so he more than made up for his 2 missed ft's at the end. Walter Sampson with 19 points to back him up. No sign of the rebounding wizard, Mykelle Krecko. Injured?  Alex Rawa was the rebounding wizard today with 11 boards, 6 points, and 3 assists.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 14, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
     Cortland EXTREMELY fortunate to get past scrappy Utica 87-85 after trailing by 11 midway into the second half. T.J. Hefele's trey and free throws in the late going proved clutch. Corts 35x44 from the free throw line to Pioneers' 10x21.
     UC jumps out to double figure lead early in the game before fr A. McGuire longrange threes propel guests into 40-37 halftime advantage. Uticans catch fire early in the second half behind R. Tutein and grab 70-59 lead. Tutein nearly has everyone of his final 25 pts at that juncture. Finishes 9x16fg, 5x10 3s, 6reb. Meanwhile, CSt chips away, mostly on the back of B. Estarfaa (23pts, 14x19fts). His three at 1:12 brings Cortland within 82-80. Hefele (10pts, 19') three at 0:25 gets the reversal. Adds two FTs as does J. Cooper (11pts). UC tosses in a three at the wire.
     Freshmen-laden Utica shoots 50 percent from the floor. J. Simmons winds up with 16pts. Dragons 40 percent from the field. Z. Lydon has 10 pts in Cortland debut.
     Plenty of Cortland talent to be sorted out. Certainly show some defensive shortcomings

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 14, 2015, 09:46:12 PM
Will the Bears Men's Basketball Team ever be Relevant again?  Well at least the Men's hockey team is 6-0 heading into a show down with the Plattsburgh Cardinals
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2015, 01:16:50 AM
Cortland didn't look like the team I expected to see. Was busy working so I caught sections of the game but was surprised to see them down midway through the 1st period by 11 points. They finally gained a lead with 4 minutes to go and I though OK they got the jitters out and now they'll roll in the 2nd half. Up by 7 at 48-41 I expected them to break this game wide open. Next time I got a chance to check out the score they were down by 10 at 67-57 with 12 minutes to play. A 26-9 Pioneer outburst had the Red Dragons on the ropes and about to stumble. Fortunately the Red Dragons can shoot free throws and made 18 of 22 from the time they were down by those 10 points.  Looked grim for the Dragons but they found a way to win. If I was a betting man (and I am) and if I could have wagered on the 6 games of the SUNYAC I would have picked the Lakers and Cortland to win. I was almost perfect with my Oswego pick but was way off on my prediction of a 15 point 79-64 Cortland victory. Down by 8 late in the game I had resigned myself to the fact that another game a YAC team should win was going by the boards. Just happy the guys pulled out a win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2015, 03:37:54 AM
Potsdam State falls to Drew by a score of 98-73. The Bears just couldn't put together 2 decent halves of basketball, a problem that has plagued them for quite some time. After falling behind by 12 points at 37-25 with 6:42 left  in the 1st half, Potsdam managed to claw their way back with a 10-2 run to close it down to 39-35 with 3:49 left in the half. That was as close as the Bears would get the rest of the night. Drew outscored Potsdam 8-3 to end the period and held a 47-38 lead at the break.

The Bears stayed within shouting distance for the first 7 minutes of the 2nd half but could never get closer than 6 points. They were only down 58-52 with 13:23 left to play but an 18-1 outburst over the next 5 minutes buried the Bears and this game was over.

Last years point guard Joe Estramonte came off the bench and led the Bears with 18 points. Nosa Onabor had 12 points and Josh Blagrove added 10. Dante Langley had 8 points and led the Bears with 8 rebounds.

Potsdam's workload won't get any easier on Sunday at 2:00 PM as they face off against the 10th ranked Mount Union Purple Raiders who were pounded on Saturday 100-78 by William Paterson. They won't be in a very good mood after that drubbing and the Bears will be on the receiving end of some pent up Purple frustration. Could be another long afternoon for Potsdam.

I called this game to be a Drew win but I expected it to be much closer than the final score. I'm sitting 6-1 after the first 7 YAC contests and the conference has a 5-2 won-loss record.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2015, 05:12:22 AM
Only 2 games on tap for today.

Potsdam State vs Mount Union    2:00 PM     Consolation Game at Drew University Rose City Tip Off Classic

The oddsmakers don't give the Bears much chance to come away with a win here and that's without knowing how amped up the Purple Raiders will be come Sunday afternoon. There's a reason that the D3hoops voters had Mount Union high in the preseason poll. The Bears are about to find out what that is. The spread on this game is a hefty 29 points and the Bears will be hard pressed to keep it under that. They lost to Drew by 25 and Mount Union would probably beat Drew by 20. This one could be over by halftime as Mount Union wins 95 65. I wish it wasn't so but if the Bears beat the Purple Raiders here in hoops, it would rival what Buffalo State did in football a few years ago when they took down those other Purple Power guys, UW-Whitewater.


Oneonta State at Franklin & Marshall   4:00 PM    Rotary Tip Off Tournament hosted by Franklin & Maeshall

A favorite coach of mine told me a few years ago that nobody goes into Franklin & Marshall and walks out of there with a W. Not gonna happen. So accept that fact and move on. Oneonta will give the Diplomats a better game than Elizabethtown did on Saturday when they got rolled by an 80-49 final score but the Diplomats will still win this game by double digits. The point spread is listed at 10 points and I'll be surprised if the Red Dragons can keep it that close. I'm hoping for a big upset here of course...something along the lines of what Oneonta did to Williams last year to open the season...but reality says the Diplomats win their home tournament by an 83-68 final score.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2015, 01:48:47 PM
Tough loss yesterday vs Point Park to begin the 2015-16 season. Had a 10 point lead at half however losing leading scorer Lovell Smith in the 1st min of the 2nd half (19 pts in 1st half 6 boards), definitly did not help the BENGALS cause. Up and dwon game which saw both sides down double digits in the 2nd half. Neither team quit but PP was 2 pts better where it counted, and thats the final score. 36% shooting from the field just won't get it done either.

Villa Maria is the next guest at the S.A. (Sports Arena) this Friday (opening day of annual Coles Tourney). Hopefully Lovell gets healthy and also Jordan Glover (also got hurt 2nd half).  I'm convinced that The Best is Yet to Come!!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
Possible Upset Alert.

Oneonta tied 65-65 with Franklin & Marshall. The Red Dragons have the ball and take a time out with 2 seconds left. They inbound it and throw up a long 3 point attempt that is off the mark and we're headed to overtime.
Oneonta led 65-63 but the Diplomats scored with 14 seconds left to tie it up. Sure hope the YAC team can pull off an OT win. Will be a tough tough loss if they don't.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2015, 06:04:02 PM
F & M jumps out to a 69-65 lead but the Red Dragons get a pair of free throws and then a huge 3 pointer to retake the lead at 70-69 with 1:41 left.

Several questionable foul calls against the Red Dragons in this OT period, the most recent one gives the lead back to F&M 71-70.  Oneonta gets to the line and makes 1 of 2 to tie it at 71.

The Diplomats come down and score with a jumper to regain the lead. Oneonta takes a 3 that probably was not a good attempt and is way off the mark.

F & M comes down and hits another basket, this time from downtown and they go up 76-71 and they call a foul on the play. (Questionable call) The 4 point play gives them a 77-71 lead with just seconds to play.

Oneonta misses a pair of 3 point attempts and then fouls a Diplomat player who hits a pair of free throws for the final 79-71 score.

As I said earlier, this was a tough loss, but as I also said earlier, one that was expected. I predicted an 83-68 final score but the guys from Oneonta played better than that today for the most part. To take the Diplomats to overtime on their home floor is 99.9% better than their other visiting opponents have ever done. No shame in losing to a Top 20 team in overtime in their house. Once again some home cooking helped out the Diplomats. 27 free throws for F & M...16 for Oneonta.

Lawrence Coleman led the Red Dragons with 24 points and was named to the All Tournament Team. Jack Dignan had 15 points, 6 assists and 4 rebounds. Mikey McElroy had 9 points, 4 boards, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

Oneonta (1-1) is off for over 2 weeks and returns to action on December 1st at crosstown rival Hartwick (1-0). The Red Dragons haven't won against the Hawks since December 8th,  2009, a span in which they've lost 5 straight games. It's time to end that streak this year!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on November 16, 2015, 10:38:04 AM
Oswego State had a convincing win against a St Lawrence team that will contend for LL title, Sortino and Sampson combine for 44 of the 73. Potsdam loses in a tough tournament facing Drew and Mount Union. New Paltz had a good win against Vassar on friday. Geneseo beat Medaille by 4 in a high scoring game. Transfer John Decker had 34 for Geneseo. Cortland beat a scrappy and physical Utica team. Oneonta beat Manhattanville and lost to Franklin and Marshall. The Oswego win will look really good at the end of the season especially at St Lawrence because I believe they will win a lot of games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2015, 06:35:10 PM
Three games on tap for YAC teams tonight.

New Paltz State  at   Mount St. Mary      7:00 PM

The Hawks will look to make it 2 in a row to open the season and also trying to even up the series against Mount St. Mary as they currently trail the Knights 4-3 over their past 7 meetings. The Hawks did win last year after 3 straight losses so they have that going for them. The point spread favors the Hawks by a 5 point margin and I think they will be right around that number. Final score New Paltz 73   Mount St Mary 67 
   
Lycoming   at  Fredonia State      7:00 PM

Until the Blue Devils  show me they can win a few games I'm going to have to pick against them. Coming off a 2-20 season doesn't give me a lot of confidence. Oddsmakers have them listed as a 10 point underdog to Lycoming who just missed an NCAA bid last year when they lost in their conference tournament after winning the regular season with a 13-3 log. They ended up with an 18-8 overall record which is 16 games more than the Blue Devils won. They also have a game under their belt and nearly hit the century mark  winning 97-75 against a non-DIII team. I hope I'm wrong but I see the score here as an 80-71 Fredonia loss.
   
Clarkson   at   Plattsburgh State      7:00 PM

The Golden Knights return to Memorial Hall for the first time in 5 years. Clarkson got a new head coach last year, Jeff Gorski, and he promptly scheduled the Cardinals in a renewal of the home and home series that the two schools used to have when Adam Stockwell was the coach. When Kevin Gilbride replaced Stockwell for the 2009-10 season, Gilbride made the decision that as soon as the prior arranged scheduling ran out, he was dropping the Cardinals and several other solid programs in favor of weaker teams that would translate into more wins. It made no sense to drop a program that was located 90 miles away, always had a decent team and helped your non-conference strength of schedule. But that's the decision that Gilbride made and it never paid any dividends for him by doing so. The new coach has toughened up their schedule and last year they were within a few points of winning the Liberty League conference tournament, falling to Skidmore in the title game, 68-64.

The Cardinals suffered huge losses due to graduation and 2015-16 looked to be a rebuilding year for Coach Tom Curle. Curle, and assistant Cameron Conover, however, have done another great job finding recruits that fit the Plattsburgh tradition. After watching his young charges at a number of practices and team scrimmages I'm convinced that this may be one of his best recruiting classes ever. With so many holes in the starting lineup and rotation to fill the season will be a work in progress, but by crunch time in February I think this team will be right near the top of the conference.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 5 point favorite over the Golden Knights, who opened their season over the weekend by dropping a close game at Morrisville State, 64-61. Clarkson also suffered some big losses through graduation including 3 starters and will be looking for their underclassmen to find some chemistry for this year's campaign.

I think Plattsburgh comes out of the gate with a solid performance tonight after they shake off the opening night jitters . Cardinals will take this one by a 76-68 margin.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2015, 09:31:25 PM
Final Scores for tonight's games:

Mount St Mary 70   New Paltz  63

Lycoming 69     Fredonia 49

Plattsburgh State  83  Clarkson College  67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2015, 06:19:38 AM
Plattsburgh State 83 Clarkson 67

A convincing win for the Cardinals tonight as they opened up their 2015-16 campaign. Solid performances by their triumvirate  of 3 seniors, and a host of new recruits, allowed Plattsburgh to fight off some early jitters and start to pull away from the Golden Knights in the latter stages of the first half. Led by the mad bomber, Ed Correa, who drained 3 triples in the first half and sophomore  point guard Zack Coleman who made several solid drives to the hoop the Cardinals finally gained the lead for keeps on Correa's 2nd 3 pointer of the half with 8:21 left to play. Five freshman came off the bench to score the first points of their college careers in the first half led by 6'2" forward Jon Patron and 6'3" forward Ian Howard. Chris Middleton a 6'5" guard/forward with 4 points, Brandon Johnson, a 5'10" guard with 2 points and Isaiah Johnson, a 6'3"' forward with 2 points all garnered their first collegiate points as well. Newcomer and transfer student, junior Eli Bryant, a 5'11" guard had 3 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals in his first 10 minutes of action as a Cardinal. Of special note is Howard's  first entrance into the game which came with 3:04 left in the half and the Cardinals up 35-30. He promptly scored 4 seconds later, then grabbed a defensive rebound, came down and grabbed an offensive rebound and scored again a few seconds later. He got another offensive rebound a minute later and was fouled on the putback attempt. He went to the line and made both free throws, giving him 6 points and 3 rebounds in 1:43 of court time and extending our lead to double digits at 41-30. When the Golden Knights hit a pair of buckets, the last one with 35 ticks left on the clock, to narrow the deficit to 7 points, the mad bomber struck again as the Cardinals ran down the clock for the final shot. Zack Coleman dribbled down to about 6 seconds and then made his move to drive to the hoop, only this time he kicked it back out to a waiting Correa, who calmly drained his final 3 pointer of the period to boost the Cardinal lead back to a 10 point 44-34 advantage. 23 of those 44 points, 14 of the team's 19 rebounds, and 6 of the 8 recorded steals were accomplished by players putting on a Cardinal uniform for the first time.

The 2nd half was more of the same as the Cardinals opened up with the first 6 points of the period and quickly had a 16 point lead. They were never threatened as the lead fluctuated between 14 and 21 for the rest of the game. X man, Xavier Thomas, senior guard/forward, held scoreless with no rebounds in only 3 minutes of the first half due to foul trouble had 9 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, 1 assist and a steal in the 2nd period. Likewise our 3rd senior, 6'4" guard/forward Kyle Richardson, also with foul trouble in the first half broke loose in the next period and ended up with 10 points and a team leading 7 boards. The sharpshooting Correa ended up with a team high 15 points and was 4x8 from behind the arc, the same 50% figure that he was averaging from long range last year. If anything, his range has increased and if you don't believe it, just ask him. He also added 4 rebounds and 3 steals. Coleman, moving into a starting role as the point guard in his sophomore season was more aggressive in going to the basket, with good results. He ended up with 12 points, 2 rebounds 2 assists and 2 steals. Freshman Jon Patron will be a force to reckon with this season, as he ended up with 7 points and 5 rebounds in 14 minutes of floor time. Magic Grigg a 6'7' sophomore came off the bench and had 4 points and 3 boards in 7 minutes. 13 players broke into the scoring column as Coach Curle went to his bench early and often.   

Clarkson was led by Derek Hart who had a game high 18 points, 4 rebounds and 3 blocks. Felix Abongo with early foul trouble had 13 points and 5 rebounds. Guard Jeremy Liss had 8 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists.

Clarkson falls to 0-2 and will take on SUNY-Canton in the North Country Invitational at Potsdam State on Friday night.

Plattsburgh 1-0, is off until Monday November 23rd when they travel down to Saratoga to face off against Skidmore  at 7:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2015, 06:19:16 PM
Only 1 game tonight in the SUNYAC as Brockport State travels up to Canton to take on the Larries of St. Lawrence.

SLU has already played a game against Oswego and held their own against the Lakers falling by a 73-67 final. Last year, a rebuilding year for the Saints, they lost to the Golden Eagles by a 66-63 final score in Brockport. I would have thought the oddsmakers would have installed the Saints as a slight home favorite but maybe they feel the way I do...that Brockport was missing a key player in last year's opener against SLU and this year they appear to be at full strength. They do have the addition of 4 transfers that should bring some additional talent and add depth  to the rotation. So Brockport is favored by 2 points despite their visitor status.  I'm also taking the Golden Eagles to come through with another close win here by a 73-70 final score. And I wouldn't be surprised if this game goes to overtime in which case the totals might be a bit higher.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2015, 07:05:49 PM
Brockport leading SLU 42-31 at the break.

Hamed Shamseldin leads all scorers with 16 points. Clifton Lyerly has 12 points and Matthew Smith has 8 points. The Golden Eagles have pretty much controlled play in this half from the opening whistle as they jumped out to an 8-0 lead. The Saints got it as close as 8-5  but Port just cruised out to a 10 point lead at 20-10 and at points in the half were up by 16, first at 37-21 and then a bit later at 42-26. The Saints hit a 3 pointer and another basket to close out the half and narrow the gap to 11.  Dom DeRegis leads SLU with 10 points, while 3 others have 5 apiece. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2015, 09:43:49 PM
Brockport overpowers St. Lawrence 81-57  as they open their season with a win on the road. The Golden Eagles will need to do a lot of winning on the road if they hope to have a decent campaign this year especially in the non-conference portion of their schedule. They will (barring a home contest in the Wendy's tournament) play all 7 of their non-conference games on the road. They won't see their home fans until January 5th, but if they play like they did today, it should be quite a homecoming. St. Lawrence now falls to 0-2 in the SUNYAC  and will meet Plattsburgh on 12-1 before they finish their annual tour of SUNYAC schools against Potsdam State on 12-12. Last year they went 1-3 in their 4 YAC games so they will have to beat the Cardinals in Plattsburgh if they want to improve on that 2014-15 record.

The Golden Eagles looked better against SLU than Oswego did last week. I'm thinking that no one should be giving the Lakers a free pass to the conference title because Brockport will certainly have a lot to say about that.

Brockport was led tonight by the hot hand of returning All Conference selection Clifton Lyerly. LYerly pumped in 26 points, scoring in a variety of way with jumpers, drives, free throws and 3 pointers. He was 10-17 from the field, 2x2 from behind the arc and 4x4 from the line. Close behind was Hamed Shamseldin who tossed in 20 points, with 16 of them coming in the first half. He may not have started but he played more minutes, 25,  than all the starters except  Lyerly, who was on the floor for 30 minutes. Matt Smith also hit double figures with 15 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists. David Clark only had 3 points but he captured rebounding honors for the game with 9 boards. Ismael Pierre was right behind him with 8 rebounds. Brockport outshot the Saints, outrebounded them 39-30 and committed only 14 turnovers to 21 for SLU. Port scored 25 points off turnovers to a measley 2 points that SLU got off TO's. All in all a pretty convincing win over a team that was picked to finish 2nd in the Liberty League.

The Larries were led by 13 points from Dom DeRegis, who was the only SLU player to score in double figures. Freshman Ben Crawford was next  with 9 points and 5 rebounds.

St. Lawrence, now 0-2, will resume play this weekend when they travel to Buffalo to take on Medaille College at 5 PM on Friday evening in the Mavericks tournament. They will face off against Baldwin-Wallace or Middlebury on Saturday afternoon.

Brockport 1-0, is off until November 24th when they will travel south to Long Island to take on the Farmingdale Rams at 5:00 PM.

One overlooked factor in today's game against SLU is that Brockport was missing their leading scorer from last season, All Conference  senior guard/forward, Patrick Modzelewski. How good will the Golden Eagles be when they factor him back into the rotation?   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 19, 2015, 04:20:45 PM
Magicman......just got around to read your post wrt to the F&M game with your conf. NY team.  Just want to mention a little " home cooking" lost by Amherst a number of years ago in Lancaster, Pa.  Have been up to Lancaster several times for NCAA sectionals games.  The last one was in '12.  MIT, Amherst, Staten Island and F& M were playing.  Looking forward to the heavy favorites MIT and Amherst playing for the chance to go to the Final 4.  Amherst lost to the host school where the fouls called and number on Amherst were " home cooking",IMO.  The head coach of F& M is a legendary coach and I felt the regional/ local refs knew it.  My complaint was when Aaron Toomey went up multi times and took an outside shot and appeared to get fouled...no fouls called.  Anyway, Amherst went to the Final 4 the next two years, Amherst won the title in '13 and was beaten by Williams in '14.  Aaron was National POY in both years...different organizations.  He set records for foul shots and leading his team to wins with his 3's.  Bad and good memories.
Also got pinged for complaining about the stripped people.  Gee, is it not an American national pastime??. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 19, 2015, 04:57:12 PM
amh63 - I was at that sectional... I am not going to say the refs were terrific, but I cam assure you they were not "home cooking." They came from a different part of the Mid-Atlantic, Atlantic, Virginia region than F&M resides in. I know the guys, and Glenn didn't want them there either. The NCAA does a pretty good job to make sure refs aren't necessarily too familiar with those teams and those guys I don't think called that many F&M games if any that season (more on that in a minute). In fact, one of the guys is a Big East (former) football official as well and does D1 basketball.

I will go on to say, that part of the NCAA tournament survival is adjust to refs from different parts of the country. That is the job of the coaches and players. If they can't adjust and are too stubborn, they are going to pay the consequences. But it wasn't like F&M was getting a lot of calls that weekend, either.

Now, since that particular year, the ref assignments in this greater region has changed MIGHTLY. They are brought in from hours away now and mix and match all of the time. There used to be multiple assigners that refs would tag onto and would work with the same crew, same gyms, same teams all of the time. I go to at least three or four gyms routinely during the season (for work and for D3hoops) and would never see the refs crossing over to the other gyms (three of the gyms were in difference conferences: Landmark, Centennial, and MAC Commonwealth). Now, there is mixing and matching, crews are coming together who haven't worked together, and I am seeing guys I have never seen before... even in the third year of this. They also have FAR more D1 refs now in the mix than in the past. All of this has combined for better officiating by far because no one knows the other's traits and don't tend to get caught up in a couple of bad calls by themselves or others. They also talk far more because they don't know each other or work with each other as often.

It as made for some very good refereeing in the last few years in this region.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 19, 2015, 10:56:47 PM
Dave.....let us say, I agree to disagree wrt to the refs...where ever they are from.  They were bad.  If my memory serves me correctly...Willy Workman, the star forward from Amherst...who still is playing overseas....was taken out of the game relative early with fouls.  The flow of the game was not good with fouls called...yes on both sides..that had players wondering.  Not good.  I have seen many college games, many in D1 NCAA sectionals and top venues...over decades and in many sections of the country..west coast, the South and the midwest.  Been  to Chapel Hill games, At games in Charleston, at IU and Michigan.  Been in Cameron too as well as UMD.  I am aware when refs are out of their depth or into themselves.  Less so in D1 and top conferences.  I'm sure that the ACC coaches of the past and today have some say on getting refs that they respect.  It is a gig that many refs want to have.....as the ACC pays well and treats them well.  Enough on the matter.
Apology to this board posters for this off topic post.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2015, 02:44:27 AM
Funny and true story.

Some years ago a coach, who has since retired, brought his team to Franklin & Marshall for a game in one of their tournaments. As the game progressed the coach wasn't happy with the quality and one sidedness of the calls in F & M's favor. During a stretch in the 2nd half as the one referee on his side of the court ran back and forth, the coach started yelling out numbers. 27 he yelled, next trip down the court he yells, 89. Each time the ref got within hearing distance the coach would yell out another number...148 he yelled, 357 he yelled, finally after a few more numbers were shouted out which were in the high 500's  the ref, during a stoppage in play for some free throws, was hovering near the coach. "Hey" the ref says to the coach,  "all these numbers you keep yelling out, what's that all about?"  The coach looks him squarely in the eye an says, "I figure those must be the number of wins that you've officiated here in this house" referring to the 700+ wins that F & M coach Glenn Robinson had accumulated at the time. The ref obviously didn't look happy at the coach's response, so the coach looked at him again, shrugged his shoulders, and said, "hey, you're the one that asked!!  Nothing the ref could do but smile and walk away.  ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2015, 06:10:57 PM
7 SUNYAC schools in action on Friday, Nov. 20th.   

Case Western Reserve  vs   Fredonia State     4th Annual Greg Richards Memorial Classic @ Meadville, Pa. (Allegheny College)
I can't pick the Blue Devils until they prove to me they can win 2 in a row. Or at least 1 in a row over a decent program. They won't beat a school from the UAA conference. Oddsmakers have them listed as a 15 point underdog. They will lose by double digits but maybe not 15 points. Case Western 81 Fredonia 69. 
   
Geneseo State  vs    Alfred      6:00  Laurel Line Tournament @ Misericordia (Dallas, Pa.)
The Knights should take care of business here against Alfred. They are favored by a  5 point margin on a neutral court. I'll take Geneseo by a 79-72 final.

   
Mount St. Vincent   vs   New Paltz State      6:00 PM LS   @ Williamstown, MA
The Hawks with a game against another Mount St. school. They lost the last one...can't lose this one can they? Hawks favored by 5 points. I think they lose by 5 points. Mt. St. Vincent has only played 1 game, a 93-67 loss to DI St Francis (Brooklyn) I think they beat the Hawks by a 76-71 final. Hope I'm wrong though.

   
Cortland State vs.  SUNY-Cobleskill      6:00 PM LS V     Cortaca Classic @ Ithaca, N.Y.
Cortland should win this game by double figures as the point spread as them favored by 11 points. I think they will win by a bigger margin much bigger. Red Dragons romp 82-62
 
   
Mount St. Mary at Oswego State      6:00 PM
Mount St Mary looking to go 2-0 in the SUNYAC having won on Tuesday night against New Paltz. I think they will find the going tougher in this outing. Oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 15 point favorite. I'll take the Lakers but only by 10...79-69.
   
   

SUNY Poly (formerly SUNYIT) at    Potsdam State      8:00 PM  North Country Invitational at Potsdam State.
The Bears may have found one they can win here but are only favored by a single point at home so it could go either way. I'm optimistic they will get it done and think the final score will be 68-64.

   
Villa Maria      Buffalo State      8:00 PM
Couldn't find a spread on this game as the oddsmakers have taken it off the board. Must mean the Bengals are gonna romp. I'll take them to win by an 85-71 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on November 20, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2015, 02:44:27 AM
Funny and true story.

Some years ago a coach, who has since retired, brought his team to Franklin & Marshall for a game in one of their tournaments. As the game progressed the coach wasn't happy with the quality and one sidedness of the calls in F & M's favor. During a stretch in the 2nd half as the one referee on his side of the court ran back and forth, the coach started yelling out numbers. 27 he yelled, next trip down the court he yells, 89. Each time the ref got within hearing distance the coach would yell out another number...148 he yelled, 357 he yelled, finally after a few more numbers were shouted out which were in the high 500's  the ref, during a stoppage in play for some free throws, was hovering near the coach. "Hey" the ref says to the coach,  "all these numbers you keep yelling out, what's that all about?"  The coach looks him squarely in the eye an says, "I figure those must be the number of wins that you've officiated here in this house" referring to the 700+ wins that F & M coach Glenn Robinson had accumulated at the time. The ref obviously didn't look happy at the coach's response, so the coach looked at him again, shrugged his shoulders, and said, "hey, you're the one that asked!!  Nothing the ref could do but smile and walk away.  ;D   

  Sounds like something former Scranton coach Bob Bessoir would have said; he coached 3 different NCAA tourney games @ F&M in the '80s, losing 2 of them. I don't think Scranton was ever in one of F&M's tipoff or Sponaugle tourneys, however.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2015, 07:47:03 PM
Cortland finally finds a game midway into the second half and goes on to claim 85-61 win over Cobleskill in Cortaca tourney opener at Ithaca College. RDragons score game's first seven points but lead just 34-33 at intermission vs. 0-3 foes recently routed by RPI. Cobleskill seizes six point lead early in the second half. Corts' Z. Lydon scores twice inside and lands 3-pointer for 52-49 advantage as winners go on 36-7 tear. Trapping defense comes to Cortland aid along with landing some shots. B. Estarfaa with 15 pts (5x11fg, 4x8 3s, 3 assts) in 24'. Lydon with 14 pts(6x10, 1x2) in 17'.  Plenty of Cortland bodies seem to wear down the Cobbles. J. Morales 4 assts, 3 stls in 19'; JP Reagan 6 rebs in 19', TJ Hefele 9 pts in 21', J. Cooper 9 pts (4x4fg) 5 reb in 18'. Cortland 32x62fg (21x34 second half), 11x28 3s from 11 sources. Cobleskill led by B. Jackson 13 pts(4x15fg), C. Cooper 11 pts in 16'; F. D'esti 11 pts in 29'

Cortland (2-0) hosting Bridgewater at 4 Saturday afternoon in predetermined Cortaca pairings.

Young Bridges bow 86-73 to Ithaca in second game at IC. Bombers overcome 41-40 Bridgewater, MA halftime edge. IC on Saturday at 2 in Cortland faces Cobleskill
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2015, 05:07:43 AM
Friday nights results

Case Western Reserve 85       Fredonia State 74

Freds drop another one. Closer than the 15 points they were supposed to lose by, but still another loss. I had it fairly close with my 81-69 prediction.


Geneseo State 81   Alfred 78

I had the Knights winning 79-72. Again fairly close to the final outcome.


Mount St. Vincent  88  New Paltz State 86 in overtime

I went with the Hawks to win it 76-71. They were up 76-73 with 28 seconds left and then 78-75 with 14 ticks left. They allowed the Dolphins to tie it up when the Hawks missed 2 free throws with 6 seconds left, committed a foul on the other end, and the Dolphin player hit a big free throw to send it to OT. They fell behind 85-80 and could never catch up. Losing late game leads is beginning to become a pattern with this team. 



Cortland State 85    SUNY-Cobleskill  61

I said the Red Dragons would win by a bigger margin than the 11 point spread. I had it as an 82-62 final
and the guys from Cortland didn't let me down....this time. Only a couple points off of a perfect pick.

Oswego State   71   Mount St. Mary 46

Neither team with the offense I expected. Lakers did win handily though. I had it 79-69 Lakers.




SUNY-Poly   75     Potsdam 63

My alma mater keeps dragging me down. This was a game I thought they could have won. Once again they hit a stretch, where, after hanging fairly close to the opponents, they suddenly hit a dry spell, and a 2 possession game becomes  a runaway. This time it occurred with 11 minutes left in the game and the Bears down 47-42. They got outscored over the next 5 minutes by a 15-3 margin and now they're down 62-45 with 6 minutes left and not much chance of making a comeback. That's been a 3 year pattern at least. I had them winning this game 68-64. I'm through wearing my heart on my sleeve for this team. The next time I pick them to win will be when they play Fredonia in Potsdam. ::)   


Buffalo State 100  Villa Maria (USCAA) 91

Buffalo State in a track meet with this non-D3 team. I had them winning by a bigger margin but with less points being scored on both ends with my 85-71 final score. The Bengals did go up by as much as 16 points midway through the 2nd half and pretty much coasted to the win without ever being threatened.

The SUNYAC has a won-loss record of 11-9 through games of November 20th.

The NCAA record is 10-8 as Buffalo State's 1-1 record won't count since neither school they played was an  NCAA DIII member. 7 of those 8 losses are Potsdam-3, Fredonia-2 and New Paltz-2.

magicman's predictions are currently 16-4. New Paltz has burned me twice, both times again a Mount. I'm done picking them against a religious institution. Buff State's opener and Potsdam on Friday night are my other 2 losses.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2015, 12:11:50 PM
Six games that count on the SUNYAC slate for Saturday. One exhibition game listed at the bottom.

Morrisville State  vs  Oswego State     1:00 PM @ held at Elmira College
The Lakers need to take this team seriously. The Mustangs would love nothing better than to trample all over the defending SUNYAC Champs. It would give them a 4th straight win this season, all against the top DIII East Region conferences. They own a win over the Liberty League and 2 wins over the Empire 8. Now they have back to back games against the YAC as they face Geneseo on Nov. 24th. The point spread has the Lakers listed as a 6 point favorite on this neutral court matchup. Oswego has owned the Mustangs, having won 9 straight games dating back to the 2006-07 season, but the Lakers haven't played them in the past 2 years. The Mustangs basketball fortunes has been on the rise since all those years of domination, when Oswego had the services of Chad Burridge and Hayden Ward. It was just 2 years ago when the Mustangs  galloped all the way to the Elite Eight in the NCAA tournament, after making the Sweey 16 the year before that. Are these Mustangs comparable to those team...I don't think so but they still are capable of springing an upset. Having said that I believe the Lakers should come home with the Tournament Championship here and will lasso the Mustangs by a 75-68 final score.     

   
Adrian  vs  Fredonia State  1:00 PM    Allegheny College Greg Richards  Tipoff Classic @ Meadville, Pa.
This is a battle of 2 teams that have been at or near the bottom of the standings in their conferences the past few seasons. The difference is that Adrian looks to have turned it around a bit as they have started off with 3 straight wins, while the Blue Devils still haven't gotten off the schnied. Oddsmakers have made Adrian a double digit 10 point favorite. Hard to argue with that. Adrian 69 Fredonia 60


   
Clarkson   at  Potsdam State        1:00 PM   North Country Invitational-Consolation Game
Either or both of these schools were hoping to be in the Championship game today. Neither one played well enough to get there. Clarkson was knocked off (I think for the first time ever) by SUNY-Canton in a game that really was never close after the first 10 minutes. Canton, up 11 at the half, led the entire 2nd period by a 15 to 21 point margin and cruised to 62-46 win. Potsdam fell behind by 17 against old NEAC foe SUNYIT (now SUNY-Poly) and never could get back into the game, falling 75-63. It used to be that Canton and SUNYIT were the relative lightweights on the schedule for these 2 schools. Now it looks like role reversal at least for this year. Now the irresistible force will meet the immovable object as both of these teams have yet to win a game. Entering the game with identical 0-3 records there will be joy in Potsdam tonight, as somebody gets to celebrate a victory, which from the looks of things won't happen that often this year for either club. The oddsmakers must have been smoking some wacky weed or they know something I don't, because they have made the Knights a 21 point favorite. I can't pick the Bears despite my inclinations to do so, so the Knights will march around the table with their swords held high as they win at least 1 game this season but it won't be by 21 points (I hope). Clarkson 69 Potsdam 65.  Of interest is that these crosstown rivals get to do it all over again in 10 days when Potsdam goes up the hill to Clarkson's Alumni Gym for a rematch. 
      
   
New Paltz State  vs Salem State        2:00 PM    Williams Invitational @ Williamstown, Mass.
This is another game where the oddsmakers seem to be way off line. They have the Hawks favored by 19 points. I'm not sure the Hawks can hold onto a 19 point lead if they get one. I'll take them to win this game but I think it will be much closer. New Paltz 74  Salem State 65   



Geneseo State   at Misericordia        4:00 PM   Laurel Line Tournament @ Misericordia (Dallas, Pa.)
Originally this game was listed as Geneseo vs TBA I went to the D3hoops scoreboard to see who won the game between Misericordia and Summit, fully expecting it to be Misericordia. And it was, as the Cougars defeated Summit, formerly known as Baptist Bible, by a comfortable 85-61 margin. Summit was 2-23 last year and is 0-4 this year so Misericordia certainly got the type of team they needed to ensure their participation in the championship game of their own tournament. :o So now I knew that the Knights were going to play the host school for all the marbles. Went to Misericordia's website to see what time the game was on and spotted an article about the tournament. However, as I read the results of Misericordia's win over Summit it stated that the Cougars were now going to take on Alfred, a winner over Geneseo, in the championship game. I thought WTH is going on here. I just read that Geneseo beat Alfred 81-78. Does the D3hoops scoreboard have the wrong info? Is the score supposed to be reversed? Went to the Misericordia schedule and it also says that the next game is against Alfred. Totally confused I pulled up Geneseo's website...big story on the Knights 3 point win over Alfred. I went to Alfred's website and they also had a story stating that "the Saxons fall victim to Geneseo's strong free throw shooting."  So now I know that the SID or the assistant posted the wrong info in 2 places. The D3hoops scoreboard is correct and Geneseo is playing in the championship game and not the consolation game as the Cougar's website states they are. I sent the SID an email informing him of the mixup and just a few minutes ago I see the schedule has been corrected but the article still has the wrong info in it. All I can do is try. Anyway this game should be a good one by my calculations but once again the point spread seems way off as Geneseo is a 22 point favorite. I'm taking the Knights but not by 22 points.  Geneseo wins a high scoring affair 85-77.

        
Bridgewater State   at   Cortland State        4:00 PM   Cortaca Classic
The Bridgewater State Bears lost to Ithaca yesterday and are hoping for better luck today against the Red Dragons. Pretty sure they won't find it. Oddsmakers have made Cortland a 7 point favorite i think they win by a few more. Red Dragons 80 Bad News...Bears 68.


Exhibition Game
Oneonta State   at  Albany State    7:00 PM
As if taking on Franklin & Marshall on their home court wasn't enough of a challenge, these Red Dragons really must be masochists. I hope they got paid well to travel over and visit the Great Danes. Not going to be much of a contest here as Albany scores early and often. The point spread is a whopping 36 points. This one could get ugly.  Final score  Albany 95, Oneonta 56. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2015, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2015, 12:11:50 PM
Six games that count on the SUNYAC slate for Saturday. One exhibition game listed at the bottom.

Morrisville State  vs  Oswego State     1:00 PM @ held at Elmira College
The Lakers need to take this team seriously. The Mustangs would love nothing better than to trample all over the defending SUNYAC Champs. It would give them a 4th straight win this season, all against the top DIII East Region conferences. They own a win over the Liberty League and 2 wins over the Empire 8. Now they have back to back games against the YAC as they face Geneseo on Nov. 24th. The point spread has the Lakers listed as a 6 point favorite on this neutral court matchup. Oswego has owned the Mustangs, having won 9 straight games dating back to the 2006-07 season, but the Lakers haven't played them in the past 2 years. The Mustangs basketball fortunes has been on the rise since all those years of domination, when Oswego had the services of Chad Burridge and Hayden Ward. It was just 2 years ago when the Mustangs  galloped all the way to the Elite Eight in the NCAA tournament, after making the Sweey 16 the year before that. Are these Mustangs comparable to those team...I don't think so but they still are capable of springing an upset. Having said that I believe the Lakers should come home with the Tournament Championship here and will lasso the Mustangs by a 75-68 final score.     

   
Adrian  vs  Fredonia State  1:00 PM    Allegheny College Greg Richards  Tipoff Classic @ Meadville, Pa.
This is a battle of 2 teams that have been at or near the bottom of the standings in their conferences the past few seasons. The difference is that Adrian looks to have turned it around a bit as they have started off with 3 straight wins, while the Blue Devils still haven't gotten off the schnied. Oddsmakers have made Adrian a double digit 10 point favorite. Hard to argue with that. Adrian 69 Fredonia 60


   
Clarkson   at  Potsdam State        1:00 PM   North Country Invitational-Consolation Game
Either or both of these schools were hoping to be in the Championship game today. Neither one played well enough to get there. Clarkson was knocked off (I think for the first time ever) by SUNY-Canton in a game that really was never close after the first 10 minutes. Canton, up 11 at the half, led the entire 2nd period by a 15 to 21 point margin and cruised to 62-46 win. Potsdam fell behind by 17 against old NEAC foe SUNYIT (now SUNY-Poly) and never could get back into the game, falling 75-63. It used to be that Canton and SUNYIT were the relative lightweights on the schedule for these 2 schools. Now it looks like role reversal at least for this year. Now the irresistible force will meet the immovable object as both of these teams have yet to win a game. Entering the game with identical 0-3 records there will be joy in Potsdam tonight, as somebody gets to celebrate a victory, which from the looks of things won't happen that often this year for either club. The oddsmakers must have been smoking some wacky weed or they know something I don't, because they have made the Knights a 21 point favorite. I can't pick the Bears despite my inclinations to do so, so the Knights will march around the table with their swords held high as they win at least 1 game this season but it won't be by 21 points (I hope). Clarkson 69 Potsdam 65.  Of interest is that these crosstown rivals get to do it all over again in 10 days when Potsdam goes up the hill to Clarkson's Alumni Gym for a rematch. 
      
   
New Paltz State  vs Salem State        2:00 PM    Williams Invitational @ Williamstown, Mass.
This is another game where the oddsmakers seem to be way off line. They have the Hawks favored by 19 points. I'm not sure the Hawks can hold onto a 19 point lead if they get one. I'll take them to win this game but I think it will be much closer. New Paltz 74  Salem State 65   



Geneseo State   at Misericordia        4:00 PM   Laurel Line Tournament @ Misericordia (Dallas, Pa.)
Originally this game was listed as Geneseo vs TBA I went to the D3hoops scoreboard to see who won the game between Misericordia and Summit, fully expecting it to be Misericordia. And it was, as the Cougars defeated Summit, formerly known as Baptist Bible, by a comfortable 85-61 margin. Summit was 2-23 last year and is 0-4 this year so Misericordia certainly got the type of team they needed to ensure their participation in the championship game of their own tournament. :o So now I knew that the Knights were going to play the host school for all the marbles. Went to Misericordia's website to see what time the game was on and spotted an article about the tournament. However, as I read the results of Misericordia's win over Summit it stated that the Cougars were now going to take on Alfred, a winner over Geneseo, in the championship game. I thought WTH is going on here. I just read that Geneseo beat Alfred 81-78. Does the D3hoops scoreboard have the wrong info? Is the score supposed to be reversed? Went to the Misericordia schedule and it also says that the next game is against Alfred. Totally confused I pulled up Geneseo's website...big story on the Knights 3 point win over Alfred. I went to Alfred's website and they also had a story stating that "the Saxons fall victim to Geneseo's strong free throw shooting."  So now I know that the SID or the assistant posted the wrong info in 2 places. The D3hoops scoreboard is correct and Geneseo is playing in the championship game and not the consolation game as the Cougar's website states they are. I sent the SID an email informing him of the mixup and just a few minutes ago I see the schedule has been corrected but the article still has the wrong info in it. All I can do is try. Anyway this game should be a good one by my calculations but once again the point spread seems way off as Geneseo is a 22 point favorite. I'm taking the Knights but not by 22 points.  Geneseo wins a high scoring affair 85-77.

        
Bridgewater State   at   Cortland State        4:00 PM   Cortaca Classic
The Bridgewater State Bears lost to Ithaca yesterday and are hoping for better luck today against the Red Dragons. Pretty sure they won't find it. Oddsmakers have made Cortland a 7 point favorite i think they win by a few more. Red Dragons 80 Bad News...Bears 68.


Exhibition Game
Oneonta State   at  Albany State    7:00 PM
As if taking on Franklin & Marshall on their home court wasn't enough of a challenge, these Red Dragons really must be masochists. I hope they got paid well to travel over and visit the Great Danes. Not going to be much of a contest here as Albany scores early and often. The point spread is a whopping 36 points. This one could get ugly.  Final score  Albany 95, Oneonta 56.

Actually there are 8 games involving SUNYAC teams today. Buffalo State faces Nazareth in the championship game of their Coles tourney today at 6!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 21, 2015, 04:56:49 PM
Cortland belts Bridgewater, MA 100-67 in home opener, leads by as many as 38 and by 85-48 at seven minute mark on Z. Lyon's 3-pointer. RDragons by 45-30 at intermission as 6-6 soph C. Joseph tosses in 17 pts (6x9fg, 3x4 3s, 6reb) in 19 minutes. Bridges within 11 before Corts take flight. JP Reagan leads the way. Team winds up 15x33 from three-land. Joseph finishes with 23 pts(9x12fg, 3x4 3s, 9 rebs) in 30'. Reagan with 17 pts (7x7, 3x3, 4rebs) in 16'. J. Cooper 10 pts along with Lydon (4x8fg, 2x4 3s, 5 rebs, 2 stls, 2 assts) in 20'. G. Carter 4 assts, 8 pts(3x4fg, 2x2 3s); B. Estarfaa 9 pts(3x6 3s) in 19'. D. Schweitzer 3-pter in final seconds sends Dragons to the century. Schweitzer the 13th Cortlander scoring in the game. Cortland 3-0 and next travels to Ithaca on Dec. 1.


Ithaca over Cobleskill 93-68 in opening game at Cortland as part of predetermined Cortaca tourney
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2015, 06:01:20 PM
Nazareth  at   Buffalo State   6:00 PM

My Buffalo State friend brought this game to my attention since it wasn't listed on the SUNYSAC composite schedule or the D3hoops scoreboard. This should be an interesting game. The oddsmakers have listed the Bengals as a solid 8 point favorite but I'm not so sure they can handle the Golden Flyers and high scoring forward Chris Ford. I'll pick this one with my heart and take the Bengals by a 88-84 final score. My head tells me to pick Nazareth so it will be interesting to see which one is correct.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2015, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2015, 06:01:20 PM
Nazareth  at   Buffalo State   6:00 PM

My Buffalo State friend brought this game to my attention since it wasn't listed on the SUNYSAC composite schedule or the D3hoops scoreboard. This should be an interesting game. The oddsmakers have listed the Bengals as a solid 8 point favorite but I'm not so sure they can handle the Golden Flyers and high scoring forward Chris Ford. I'll pick this one with my heart and take the Bengals by a 88-84 final score. My head tells me to pick Nazareth so it will be interesting to see which one is correct.

Good thing that you went with your heart.  Good call 74-71.  Out grocery shopping with the wife right now. Details to follow later !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2015, 11:20:38 PM
 1st Cole's tourney title for the Bengals in 3 years (tourney canceled last year and John Carroll won it in 13). What made the tourney even more satisfying was it was done with out leading scorer Lovell Smith, who sat out due to injury! Tourney MVP Nico McLean picked up the slack with a 24 pt average for the weekend. Add tourney allstar Mike Henry's double double (double) of 19 pts and 14 rebounds vs. Villa Maria and 20/10 tonight and you have the makings of a potentially good weekend. Add Jordan Glover's 33 pts for the weekend and clutch free throw shooting in game 1 and you definitly got something good going. Mix in the clutch performances from Sophomore Redell Freeman and Freshman Dominic Grayer (coming off the bench) along with some steady play from Junior Kevin Marmolejos (who added clutch free throws, 4/4 tonight in the last min)  and the future looks bright for the Bengals.

   Bengal big men had their hands full with Naz's "Mitch' (not Chris) Ford who had a monster game (34 pts). Early foul trouble for Chateau and Moise meant that players like Luke Jenkins, Akeem Williams and James Nix had to step up this weekend. And step up they did! Undoubtly this Bengals team is the deepest that many Bengal fans can ever remember (13 out of 15 players dressed played this weekend). With 'Yac "powerhouses" Cortland and Oswego coming to town in less than 2 weeks, and perinial LL titleist Hobart coming to town in 3 days, that depth will be sorely needed more than ever!

  The future looks bright!  :)

Go BENGALS!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2015, 11:44:45 PM
Saturday's results

Oswego State 61 Morrisville State 59
I said this game was one the Lakers needed to take seriously. It looks like they almost didn't. The Mustangs were up by a 23-21 margin at the half but the Lakers came out and grabbed the lead on a hoop and harm 30 seconds into the period. They would never trail again but they could never quite put the Mustangs away either.
They ever so slowly increased their advantage to 4, 6, and finally 9 points to 55-46 with 5:45 remaining.  At that point the Mustangs put together a 10-3 run  to close he gap to 58-56 with 1:15 left on the clock. Now it was anybody's game and Oswego got a Brian Sortino layup that was countered by a 3 pointer by Morrisville's Tyler Bliss. The lead was a single point so the Mustangs fouled with 18 seconds left and the Lakers, needing both free throws to cover a 3 pointer, only made 1 of 2. THe Mustangs were still alive with plenty of time to get off a good shot to win it or send it to overtime. The Lakers got lucky and the Mustangs didn't resulting in the 61-59 final score. I'm sure there were more than a few sighs of relief when that final buzzer sounded.

I had the Lakers winning a close game but this was too close for comfort. My score of a 75-68 Oswego win wasn't that far off but both teams struggled on the offensive end today, especially in the first half. Brian Sortino led the Lakers with 29 points. Alex Rawa and Walter Sampson both tossed in 11 points. Lakers not getting much bench production in the 2 games that were close. Might be a problem when the conference action starts up. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2015, 03:40:51 AM
Saturday Action

Adrian 83  Fredonia State 57

I thought Fredonia was going to lose this game but expected it to be a bit closer. The Blue Devils were down by double digits 5 minutes after tip off and fell behind by as much as 16 points at 37-21 with 4:35 left in the half.
They did close the half on a 10-3 run to narrow the margin to 40-31 to stay within shouting distance.  Adrian opened the 2nd half with a 19-8 burst and the lead was 20 points after 6 minutes of play. The Bulldogs lead was as much as 26 points and the outcome was never in doubt. Ian Helps led the Blue Devils with 16 points and 6 boards.
Fredonia 0-3 is back in action at Penn State-Behrend on 11-24 at 7 PM.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2015, 04:13:46 AM
Saturday action

Clarkson 66  Potsdam State 60.

I was close to the final score of this game with my 69-65 prediction. Having seen the Golden Knights play last week against Plattsburgh I thought they might get the W here despite being the visiting team .

Back and forth 1st half until Clarkson, trailing 19-18 with 7 minutes to go in the period, outscored the Bears by a 14-5 margin to go into the break up 32-24. Clarkson kept enlarging the lead through the first 7 minutes of the 2nd half until they were up 43-30 with 13:21 left on the clock. Potsdam fought back and made it a 2 possession game  at 44-39 with 8 minutes to go, but the Knights always had an answer each time the Bears got close. The Bears made one final push to get to 57-51 with 91 seconds on the clock but Clarkson made 9 of 12 free throws down the stretch to close the door on Potsdam's chances.

Joe Estramonte came off the bench to lead the Bears with 16 points. Dante Langley had 15 points and 8 rebounds, while Josh Blagrove had 10 points with 7 boards.

Potsdam 0-4, is off until December 1st when they have a Deja Vu moment with Clarkson, as these two teams get to do it all over again, in Clarkson's house this time. I'm afraid the early results don't give me much optimism that the Bears will improve on the past 2 seasons. I believe the wins this year, can once again be counted on one hand...and not sure you will need all the fingers on that hand. Maybe some of the new recruits will show considerable growth by the time mid January and February roll around, and the Bears can grab a few wins in conference play.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2015, 05:50:56 AM
Saturday results

Salem State 85  New Paltz 84

The Hawks were favored to win this game by 19 points. I knew that wasn't going to happen. I almost picked Salem State to win this game but I let that big point spread color my crystal ball. I figured the oddsmakers must know something I didn't. Turns out I was wrong, (and in my best Sergeant Schulze accent)... they knew nothing. I picked New Paltz to win 74-65 but should have went with my first instinct which is to never pick a team that's on a losing streak.

The Hawks got outscored in the first half by a 49-36 margin and in a reversal of past form they came on strong in the 2nd half and outscored the Vikings by a 48-36 margin. Unfortunately that single point differential was a missed free throw with 5 seconds to play that would have sent the game into overtime. The Hawks had 1 more chance as they got the offensive rebound off the missed free throw, but missed a 3 point attempt at the buzzer. Brandon Guest and RJ Rosa both scored 24 points to lead the Hawks. Guest also led them in rebounding with 8 boards. Andrew Seniuk had 13 points and 7 rebounds.

New Paltz, 1-3 will return to action on Tuesday night at 7 PM when they host the Middlebury Panthers.


Geneseo State 88  Misericordia 63 

Geneseo wins the Misericordia  Laurel Line Tournament

I figured the Knights would put some points n the board as I had this pegged as an 85-77 Geneseo win. Wasn't far off with the Geneseo part, but the Cougars were never in this game from the start. They opened up with a 3 pointer to grab the early lead and it was about the only time the home crowd cheered. Geneseo had a double figure lead at 16-5 after 5 minutes of play and it only got worse for the Cougars from there. With 7 minutes left in the period the lead was 21 and the Knights cruised to a 46-24 halftime cushion. The lead was between 20 and 28 points the entire 2nd half as Coach Minton emptied his bench.

Newcomer, junior Justin Ringen a 6'5" guard/forward, led the Knights with 25 points and 7 rebounds. Charlie Zaepfel had 8 points and a tournament record 12 assists, as both players were named to the All Tournament Team and Ringen was chosen as the Tourney MVP.  Kevin Crockett had 11 points and 4  assists. Freshman Jack Manke had his first collegiate double-double with 10 points and 10 rebounds in 18 minutes of court time. The box score from Misericordia has Jack listed as Jank Manke. I thought Geneseo had imported someone from Eastern Europe with that name.  :D

Geneseo, 3-0, will be back in action on Tuesday when they host Morrisville State at 7 PM. The Mustangs dropped a heartbreaker to Oswego on Saturday and would like to add a SUNYAC school to their trophy list. This game against the Knights is their last chance to do so. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2015, 06:50:26 AM
More Saturday results

Cortland State 100 Bridgewater State 67

The Red Dragons put a few more points on the board than I thought they would,(actually quite a few more) but I thought they would win this game by double figures.

jdex already gave the rundown of the game. Nice to see that another YAC team remains undefeated to help pick up the slack of the 3 teams at the bottom.

Ithaca-Cortland battle on Dec. 1st should be a good one.



Buffalo State 74  Nazareth 71

As my Buffalo buddy said... good thing you went with your heart. I had this one with a few more points being scored with my 88-84 prediction, but then I didn't know that the Bengals leading scorer would be watching this one from the bench with an injury. His 19 ppg would have got me those extra points. ;D Still I had the MOV within a point. The Bengal stats  have already been posted by Bengalsrule so I'll just say it's nice that the Bengals got a decent win to help out the YAC SOS.

Buffalo State will have another big game and nice opportunity to add even more to our SOS if they can conjure up some "magic" and take down Hobart on Tuesday at 7:00 PM. The Statesmen and the Liberty League  are flying high right now after Hobart took out Scranton on Saturday by a 79-73 score at Scranton.  Scranton owns a double digit win over Ithaca, who defeated Liberty League Champion Skidmore last week at Skidmore's house. And speaking of Skidmore, the Thoroughbreds defeated #20 Wooster by a 72-63 final score in Wooster on Saturday. All these factors will increase the Liberty Leagues SOS so if we can do somedamamge against them this ear that will help the SUNYAC's  SOS.



Exhibition Game
University of Albany  92  Oneonta State 49

My prediction in this one was a 95-56 blowout by the Great Danes. I wasn't too far off the mark as the final margin was 43 points instead of my 39 points. The size of the Division I team enabled them to score over 50 points in the paint. The Red Dragons were led by Jack Dignan, Lawrence Coleman and Mikey McElroy with 11, 10, and 9 points respectively. They got beat up but the guys still probably had fun playing in a DI atmosphere.

The team is 1-1 on the season and will be back in action that matters on Tuesday when they travel to crosstown rival Hartwick for an 8 PM start.

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents 15-12

SUNYAC record vs NCAA DIII Teams    14-11  (10 losses are from our bottom 3 schools)

magicman's predictions  23-5      3 of my 5 losses are from New Paltz losses. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2015, 11:09:36 AM
Off to take in the only game on the SUNYAC slate today which is:

Plattsburgh State @ Skidmore 7:00 PM

The Cardinals travel down to Saratoga for the 2nd year in a row in order to get the Thoroughbreds to come North to visit our house for 1 game next year. The deals we have to make to get people to come up here. ::)

Skidmore is coming off a big win over Wooster College, the 20th ranked team in the country. They beat the Scots in Wooster by a 72-63 score and I'm sure are feeling pretty good about themselves right about now. They will also be looking for some payback against the Cardinals, as we beat them last year in overtime on their court.

They returned a lot of talent from that team and are once again picked to win the Liberty League They are led by pre-season All American Aldin Medunjanin, a 6'4" senior guard and 6'5" senior forward Erik Sanders. Both players are averaging over 15 ppg. Sanders has 10.5 rebounds per game along with 3.0 assist per game. Medunjanin grabs 5 rebounds per game and averages 4 assists per outing. Royce Paris a 6 ft junior guard is also averaging double figures with 12 ppg.

The Thoroughbreds will be a handful for the Cardinals to contain but Plattsburgh will counter with some pretty athletic players of their own. Plattsburgh has only played 1 game this season but in that game their main weapons were the players expected to be their go to guys all season long. Eddie Correa who scored 15 points is their main outside scoring threat, as he averages 50% from behind the arc. Last year he had 57 three pointers and is holding that form as he opened the season draining 4 of 8 from long distance against Clarkson.  Kyle Richardson could lead the team in rebounding this season as he was 2nd on the team last year with 5.7 rpg coming off the bench. In his first start in a Cardinal uniform he scored 10 points and led the team with 7 boards, in only 20 minutes of court time. Xavier Thomas adds his high flying repertoire to the mix and should score more than the 9 points and 5 rebounds he had in that Clarkson game, as he was limited to only 3 minutes in the first half with foul trouble. Sophomore point guard Zack Coleman, with 12 points in his first ever start for the Cardinals, could be a difference maker this year if teams overlook his ability to drive to the basket and focus on Plattsburgh's other offensive weapons.
Add one of the best recruiting classes the Cardinals have ever had, and this team will have a rotation that can go 12 deep with no fall off in talent. It may take a while for all that talent to come together but I think it's going to be a fun ride.

The oddsmakers have surprisingly  made Skidmore just a slim 2 point home favorite. With the heavy losses Plattsburgh suffered to graduation and the number of returning rotation players that the Thoroughbreds returned I would have thought that the point spread would have been greater. At any rate, regardless of the odds, I'm wearing my heart on my sleeve and taking the Cardinals. I think we are at a disadvantage because Skidmore has 3 games under their belt and more time to work out the kinks (like that season opening loss to Ithaca), as evidenced by their win at Wooster.

It should be another hard fought game between two solid programs and I think it will be more of an offensive display than the 60-57 overtime Cardinal win last year. So more points this year in less minutes, and I hope that translates into a 74-70 Cardinal victory.  GO CARDS

This is my 8000th post what a coincidence...that should bring my Cardinals some luck...shouldn't it?           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 23, 2015, 11:09:36 AM
Off to take in the only game on the SUNYAC slate today which is:

Plattsburgh State @ Skidmore 7:00 PM

This is my 8000th post what a coincidence...that should bring my Cardinals some luck...shouldn't it?           

Not that I awaken wishing the best for magicmans Cards, however I too hope that they are successful in their journey to Saratoga Springs ( beautiful there in the summer). I've learned over the years that the better our Sunyac ( combined) records are against out of conference teams , the better it is for our conference. Add victories against quality opponents i.e. Skidmore, then the "better" even gets better.  So here's to the Magic 1 having a quality ride back home tonight ( no drinking and driving though).

Go SUNYAC
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Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2015, 04:27:33 PM
**************  Newsflash ****************

         From the SUNYAC website today

MEN'S BASKETBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK - Nico McLean (JR) 
Buffalo State, Guard (Buffalo, NY/Amherst)
Nico McLean returned to the Bengals' lineup for the first time since the 2011-12 season and picked up right where he left off, averaging 21.7 points and 8.7 rebounds to go with 13 assists and eight steals in three games as the Bengals went 2-1 to open the season. McLean was named the MVP of the Coles Classic after the Bengals claimed the title with a 74-71 victory over Nazareth where he scored 19 points. He had 29 points, and 10 rebounds in a 100-91 win over Villa Maria, and earlier in the week had 17 points, 12 rebounds and seven assists in a two-point loss to Point Park.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: d3d3d3 on November 24, 2015, 08:13:56 AM
Skidmore 94, Plattsburgh 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2015, 09:31:27 AM
Quote from: d3d3d3 on November 24, 2015, 08:13:56 AM
Skidmore 94, Plattsburgh 69

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that d3d3d3 must be a liberty league poster. ::)  Btw, one heck of a win by Skidmore last night.  I doubt anyone saw that 1 coming!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 04:33:34 PM
6 teams in action tonight in the YAC. Busy day for me only time for quick picks

Early games:

Brockport State @ Farmingdale State   5:00 PM

Brockport wins this one by double digits. They are favored by 12 points. They win by a 76-66 final.



Oswego State @ Clarkson

Oddsmakers pick the Lakers to win by only 3 points. I think they win by 15 at least. Oswego wins 77-62.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 07:06:49 PM
More Tuesday night action

Fredonia State  @    Penn State-Behrend      7:00 PM

The Blue Devils still searching for that initial win of the season. Don't think they will get it tonight. The Lions of Penn State-Behrend are favored by a double digit 18 point favorite. The Blue Devils have lost all 3 games this year by double figure. This will be another one. Lions win 75 to 57.

   
   
Morrisville State  @    Geneseo State      7:00 PM

This should be a closely contested game. The 3-1 Mustangs almost knocked off Oswego last week and I think this game will be closer than the 12 point favorite that the oddsmakers have made Geneseo. I think the Knights will win this one but it will be a battle. Geneseo lost a 74-72 decision last year in Morrisville while the Knights won 2 years ago at home by an 89082 score. Geneseo wins the rubber match 81-76.



   
Middlebury      New Paltz State      7:00 PM

Middlebury is looking for that 1st win after dropping their first 2 games. The Hawks have lost 3 in a row and are a 3 point underdog in tonight's contest. I think the Panthers find their game tonight and manage to put one in the plus column. Middlebury wins this one by a 74-69 final.
   
   
Hobart      Buffalo State      7:00 PM

Hobart is listed as a slim favorite as they travel to Buffalo State. The Statesmen are undefeated and are coming off a good win over a Scranton team that was 3-0. The Bengals may not have the services of their leading scorer. Not knowing if they can put their best five on the floor makes me think that the Statesmen will win a close one in the Queen City. Hobart takes this one 85-80 but I hope I'm wrong about that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 07:17:23 PM
A barnburner going on in Farmingdale as the Golden Eagles Clifton Lyerly just scored on a layup and was fouled. He finishes off the 3 point play to give Brockport their first lead in quite a while at 72-70 with 3:48 left n the game. Golden Eagles trailed by as many as 14 points at 62-48 with 11:13 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 07:20:49 PM
Brockport up 79-76 with 56 seconds left in the game. Golden Eagles have the ball and take a time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 07:34:40 PM
Brockport inbounds the ball and the Port player handling the ball gets fouled at least twice with no call by the officials. As the shot clock is winding down, Matthew Smith makes a baseline jumper to make the score 81-76. The Rams come down and miss a 3 pointer and foul Lyerly who misses both free throws with 11 seconds left. Rams gat a 3 pointer with 4 seconds left and foul Smith with 3 ticks on the clock. Smith makes both shots to make it 83-79 and it's a good thing he does because Farmingdale's Trey Kinard makes an extremely long 3 point shot at the buzzer. I'm guessing it was close to 40 feet, nothing but net. Final score 83-82.  Hell of a comeback by the Golden Eagles to make up a 14 point deficit in the last 11 minutes of the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 07:55:45 PM
Middlebury with a 22 point lead on New Paltz 57-35 with 17 minutes left in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Oswego defeats Clarkson 73-58.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Buffalo State all over Hobart by a 64-38 score with 13:44 left in the 2nd half. And their leading scorer Lovell Smith isn't playing. Go Bengals prove me wrong I love it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
Geneseo defeats Morrisville rather easily  89-65.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 08:30:10 PM
Middlebury beats New Paltz 80-63.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 08:34:02 PM
Buffalo State downs Hobart by an 98-78 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2015, 08:35:11 PM
Penn State-Behrend defeats Fredonia 66-50.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2015, 11:10:13 PM
    So glad we proved the Magic 1 wrong.

   Probably the best effort to date of this early season for my beloved BENGALS, as we take out Hobart 98-78. Led by Kevin Marmelejos 32 points ( broke the record of  3 ptrs held by Jake Simmons) wtih 10  3 ptrs to lead the BSC with 32 points (which more than doubled his pt output before todays game of 13 pts- 3 games total). Add 4 more players in double figures  - Mike Henry 12 pts, Jordan Chateau 11 pts/10 rebounds "double double", Dominic Grayer with 10 pts and Nico Mclean with 10 . And Oh... BTW (By The Way) Jordan Glover with 10 assists (with only 1 turnover). Add that all together along with a nother strong performance from the BENGALS bench and you have the makings of a game that...to be honest... was never close after the first 10 minutes. Had it not been for Jamal Lucas's 23 points in the first half for Hobart (0 pts 2nd half) this game could have been even worse for my brother Eric's alma - mater.

  Good way to head into the Thanksgiving break. Undoubtly the biggest and toughest game on the BENGALS schedule is thier next 1 when the "mighty" Red Dragons of Cortland come to town on Friday December 4th, followed by pre - season "favorite"* Oswego the very next day, (to kick off the SUNYAC portion of the schedule). No doubt that these are 2 of the top teams in the east if not in the entire country (Oswego is cuurently ranked 35th in D3hoops). Not sure how many of the BENGALS will be able to enjoy their thanksgiving meal with thoughts of the Dragons and Lakers right around the corner! But I'm sure that they are gonna try to enjoy their holiday time. They defintly have plenty to be thankful for. I'm just glad that I have the opportunity to watch these young men begin to jell together while their leading scorer., Lovell Smith,  is still out. All indications are that he won't be back for at least another 3/4 weeks (possibly longer)! In the meantime...lets all get ready for turkey and football. ;)

   Happy Thanksgiving to all!! :)

* = Source - Magicman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 25, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
Sorry for barging in here where I don't belong, but have a happy & safe Thanksgiving Bengals & Magicman!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2015, 02:02:09 AM
Not even my crystal ball could foresee that said player, Mr. Marmelejos, who had a grand total of 13 made 3 pointers in his 24 prior games in a Buffalo State uniform, would erupt like Mount Vesuvius and pour in 10 bombs in one night. And don't anybody with the Bengals name in their moniker or anyone affiliated with Buffalo State hoops, try and tell me that they saw this outburst coming either. Cause if they do, their nose is gonna grow and their pants will catch fire.

Young Mr. Marmelejos would be well served to retrace his steps for the entire 24 hour period leading up to this game and write them down. He has apparently hit upon some "magic" formula and as this prestidigitator has learned over the years, leave nothing to chance, because if you find a system that works, then stick with it.

Congratulations to Kevin for breaking Jake's record. 8-) I watched Jake on video the night he buried his 9 triples against my Cardinals on 1-21-2012 ( we learned from that...he only got 7 against us 2 weeks later). Tonight I managed to see about half of those 10 3's. I was a bit surprised that when Kevin got that offensive rebound late in the first half he didn't do a heat check and dribble out to the 3 point line and fire up another one. Why spoil things by making a measley 2 point putback. ???  Nice to see Kevin didn't play favorites...he was 5x7 from long distance in the first half and 5x7 from long distance in the 2nd half. Someday, someone make break his record, but I bet they won't match his synchronicity. ;D

I suppose this record setting performance makes Kevin a leading candidate for the next SUNYAC Player of the Week award. Back to back Bengals to start the year? I would have bet against that. :o   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2015, 02:05:28 AM
Quote from: 7express on November 25, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
Sorry for barging in here where I don't belong, but have a happy & safe Thanksgiving Bengals & Magicman!

Hey 7,
You're always welcome to barge in here. And right back at back at you with the Thanksgiving wishes. It's going to be a good one with nice mild temperatures over the next few days. Love El Nino, hope it keeps on keeping on.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2015, 04:42:29 AM
Skidmore 94  Plattsburgh 69

Too tired to write up my thoughts on this game when I got home at 1:15 AM early Tuesday morning. Almost got in an accident about 50 miles from home as I came around a curve on the Northway and a Deer was right square in the headlights. He took about 2 steps to the left and froze as I swerved to the right. If my drivers side window was rolled down I could have touched him as I went by. At the speed I was going it wouldn't have been pretty. Pulled into a rest area a couple of miles down the road and sat there for about 10 minutes to let the adrenalin wear off.

Should have stayed home and watched this game on the video feed to avoid the aggravation. One of the worst officiated games I've attended in quite some time. I knew soon as I spotted the 3 officials that it was going to be a long night. I've had to sit through enough of their games over the years to groan when I see them. We didn't lose because of the officiating but all the fans present, lost, because these officials were so whistle happy, rather than letting the guys play ball. There was no flow to the game because the whistles were constantly going off. They made plenty of bad calls on both teams as they called a total of 62 personal fouls and a pair of technicals on Plattsburgh that were absolutely laughable. They were so inconsistent with their calls, calling a lot of ticky tacky stuff that occurred quite a distance from the basket, yet guys were getting hammered inside  and no calls were made. On one play I watched Skidmore's Edvinas Rupkus drive to the basket and get a forearm right across the face so hard his nose was bloodied. No call. I saw Ed Correa for Plattsburgh get knocked to the floor on an attempted shot and when a Skidmore player tripped over him as Ed's hitting the floor, the ref calls a foul on Correa. When Ed starts to protest, he gets nailed with a technical. About a minute later Plattsburgh's coach is talking to an official on the sideline at half court. All of a sudden the ref underneath the basket 50 feet away blows his whistle and T's up the coach who wasn't even talking to him. Sad state of affairs.

Skidmore played very well. Plattsburgh played like the young team that they are. The Thoroughbreds returned more veterans than the Cardinals did and they also have some excellent shooters. Those shooters got open all night long and made the Cardinals pay. Plattsburgh seemed lost on the defensive end so many times and Skidmore was quick to rotate the ball and find the open man. They were also able to dribble drive to the hoop throughout the night as Plattsburgh defenders either failed to pick up the ball handler or make the necessary switches in time to prevent them from scoring easy layups. The two most telling statistics: points in the paint, Skidmore 36...Plattsburgh 20 (most of those by Kyle Richardson) and 3 point shooting, Skidmore 11x26, 42.3% good for 33 points...Plattsburgh 4x19, 21.1% good for 12 points. That's your ballgame.

Skidmore came out of the gate and went straight for the lead just like American Pharoah. They were up 8-0 and when Plattsburgh closed to within 12-8, the Thoroughbreds shifted into high gear and opened up a 22-8 advantage. They continued to lead by double digits thoughout the remainder of the period and attained their biggest margin of 18 points at 44-26 with 3:11 left in the half. The Cardinals would end the period with an 8-2 run to cut the score to 46-34 at the break.

Needing to narrow the gap and get back into the game the Cardinals needed something to happen quickly as play resumed. After Skidmore's Erik Sanders hit another 3 pointer to start the 2nd half and go up by 15 the Cardinals with 5 points by Kyle Richardson and a 3 pointer from Owen Mitchell managed to get the lead down to single digits at 49-42.  A 3 pointer by Skidmore's Rupkus was offset by a triple from Richardson. A 10-3 run capped off with another 3 pointer by Skidmore's Issac Carp boosted the lead back to 14. With 11 minutes left to play, Richardson made a pair of free throws  that cut the lead to 11 points at 62-51, but any hope of a Cardinal comeback was derailed by a series of fouls over the next 1:15. 5 straight fouls called against Plattsburgh, 3 personals and 2 technicals, allowed the Thoroughbreds to open up a 22 point lead with 9:08 to play and this game was basically over. Plattsburgh made one final push to get to within 14 points at 75-61 with 5 minutes to go but  Skidmore remained in firm control of the outcome. Both coaches emptied their bench a short time later.

Issac Carp led the Thoroughbreds with 19 points and had 5 rebounds. Erik Sanders had 16 points and led the team with 7 rebounds. Edvinas Rupkis also had 16 points with 5 rebounds and Royce Paris had 13 points with 7 rebounds.

Of note was the fact that Aldin Medunjanin, Skidmore's preseason All American, left the game early with an injury to an ankle or leg. He limped off the court but remained on the bench for the entire game, so I'm hoping it was just a minor injury that will have him back in action before too long. He had 7 points and 3 rebounds in 10 minutes of action.   

Skidmore improves to 3-1 and will travel to The College of New Jersey on 12-1 at 7:00 PM

Plattsburgh got a career high in points and rebounds from Kyle Richardson in just his 2nd start in a Cardinal uniform. Kyle was a solid rotation player last year on a crowded, senior laden, Plattsburgh team and probably would have started at many other schools in Division III. He accepted his role as one of the first players off the bench last year and was the 2nd leading rebounder on the team with 5.6 rpg  and averaged 6.2 ppg. On Monday night he fought his way inside for 36 points and 15 rebounds to capture game honors in both categories. It marked the 2nd double-double of his Plattsburgh career. He was 8x13 from the field, 1x3 from long distance and 19x24 from the line. Xavier Thomas was the only other Cardinal in double figures as he had 11 points with 7 rebounds, 4 steals and 2 blocks. Another telling stat for the Cardinals on the negative side was only 4 assists by the entire team. That points out that there was way too much dribbling and not enough passing.

Plattsburgh falls to 1-1 on the young season and will return to action on 12-1 when they host another Liberty League team, the St Lawrence Saints at 8:00 PM.                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2015, 10:30:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2015, 02:05:28 AM
Quote from: 7express on November 25, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
Sorry for barging in here where I don't belong, but have a happy & safe Thanksgiving Bengals & Magicman!

Hey 7,
You're always welcome to barge in here. And right back at back at you with the Thanksgiving wishes. It's going to be a good one with nice mild temperatures over the next few days. Love El Nino, hope it keeps on keeping on.

Ditto to what the Magic 1 said!  7express, you have always been a class act!!! 👍👍  Here's to hoping a safe and Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
....and while we are talking about Magicspeak.... You are right old sage 1.  No 1 saw that performance coming.  However I have concluded that it happened for 1 of 3 reasons

A Kevin knew that he wouldn't be able to get any shots up during the next 3 days at the sports arena so he got in some extras during the game or.....

B Kevin knew that Jake Simmons would be attending his first buff state game of the season and wanted to represent (since they both share the same jersey number) or.....

C Kevin heard, before the game, coach Ansari announce (in the locker room) that yesterday was coach Kevin Glover's ( top assistant) birthday and Kevin M wanted to send Kevin G out the door on a real Happy Birthday note!

Trust me my friend, it was a thing of beauty. Plus Kevin M is so quiet and humble so it made it even more enjoyable to see a guy, who sat out a week of practice earlier due to injury, get off like that!

Here's to hoping that you and Mrs Magic ( and all SUNYAC/D3 posters) have a great Thanksgiving!

Go Bengals!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2015, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2015, 10:48:03 AM
....and while we are talking about Magicspeak.... You are right old sage 1.  No 1 saw that performance coming.  However I have concluded that it happened for 1 of 3 reasons

A Kevin knew that he wouldn't be able to get any shots up during the next 3 days at the sports arena so he got in some extras during the game or.....

B Kevin knew that Jake Simmons would be attending his first buff state game of the season and wanted to represent (since they both share the same jersey number) or.....

C Kevin heard, before the game, coach Ansari announce (in the locker room) that yesterday was coach Kevin Glover's ( top assistant) birthday and Kevin M wanted to send Kevin G out the door on a real Happy Birthday note!

Trust me my friend, it was a thing of beauty. Plus Kevin M is so quiet and humble so it made it even more enjoyable to see a guy, who sat out a week of practice earlier due to injury, get off like that!

Here's to hoping that you and Mrs Magic ( and all SUNYAC/D3 posters) have a great Thanksgiving!

Go Bengals!!

Champ,

Reasons B and C for sure. No wonder he got the record. Didn't even notice that he was wearing Jake's old number. And with Jake in the building and Kevin Glover's birthday present it was a confluence of amazing coincidences that produced a "magical" moment. Happy for all the Bengals involved with the record breaking night. Nice win as well to help our SOS.

Happy Thanksgiving to you, your family, and all the fine folks from Bengal country that I've met over the years. Please give Jake Simmons a big hello for me. He was and still is my favorite Bengal Player and I go way back to before Randy Smith. Load Jake on the bus when you come to the North Country for your annual visit to Plattsburgh on January 9th. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on November 25, 2015, 09:51:16 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2015, 10:30:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2015, 02:05:28 AM
Quote from: 7express on November 25, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
Sorry for barging in here where I don't belong, but have a happy & safe Thanksgiving Bengals & Magicman!

Hey 7,
You're always welcome to barge in here. And right back at back at you with the Thanksgiving wishes. It's going to be a good one with nice mild temperatures over the next few days. Love El Nino, hope it keeps on keeping on.

Ditto to what the Magic 1 said!  7express, you have always been a class act!!! 👍👍  Here's to hoping a safe and Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!!!

Thanks guys +1 to you both!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2015, 05:20:43 AM
Just realized that before Nico McLean was the YAC Player of the Week, the first award of the season went to Geneseo's John Decker for the games that took place on November 13th, 14th and 15th.

The Knights only had one game that weekend but Mr. Decker made his presence known with 34 points in his debut for Geneseo. A junior transfer from Division II Dominican, the 6'1" guard was 9x20 from the field 2x8 from long distance, and 14x16 from the line. He grabbed 10 rebounds to complete his double-double, making for a nice day at the office, as the Knights defeated Medaille 89-85 to open the season.

In looking at John's next 3 games I get a little confused. He started that first game and logged 38 minutes. His next game he came in off the bench ( ???) and scored another 34 points in a win over Alfred 81-78. He had better stats as he was 7x12 from the field, 6x8 from 3 point land and 14x14 from the line, with 5 rebounds in only 25 minutes of court time. In his 3rd game against Misericordia, an 88-63 Geneseo win, John again comes in off the bench, only plays 18 minutes and scores just 7 points. The game on Tuesday the 24th, against Morrisville State, was won by Geneseo in a big way, 89-64, but John does not show up in the box score. John got less playing time with each succeeding game. Usually when you score 34 points in your first game the opposite occurs and your playing time increases.

Wish there was a Geneseo poster on this board that could come on and tell us what's up with that? Maybe an injury after the first game and he is being brought along slowly and re-injures it in his 3rd game? Something is strange.

The Knights also have received a solid contribution from another newcomer on the team, junior Justin Ringen. Justin is a 6'5" guard who has scored 20 or more points in every game this year. I'm guessing that he also, transferred into Geneseo. Justin has started all 4 games averaging 22 ppg. He also averages 6 rebounds per game, 2.3 assists per game and is getting 32.5 minutes per game 

These 2 newcomers have provided the Knights with a whopping 47.0 points per game. I guess there is life after the loss of Gordon Lyons and Andy Drescher.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2015, 02:07:11 PM

Geneseo's J. Ringen likewise a Dominican transfer. Posted fairly good stats two years ago but wasn't on last season's stat sheet. Ringen a Long Island whiz as a schoolboy

And an update on Cortland's 6-6 J. Prendergast who was a solid freshman contributor last season. Is recovering from an injury and will probably miss first semester. RDragons already pretty deep. In fact, carrying a squad of 20. At Ithaca 12/1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2015, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 27, 2015, 02:07:11 PM

Geneseo's J. Ringen likewise a Dominican transfer. Posted fairly good stats two years ago but wasn't on last season's stat sheet. Ringen a Long Island whiz as a schoolboy

And an update on Cortland's 6-6 J. Prendergast who was a solid freshman contributor last season. Is recovering from an injury and will probably miss first semester. RDragons already pretty deep. In fact, carrying a squad of 20. At Ithaca 12/1

Jdex...are you excited about the red Dragons at Linfield tomorrow?  All of the SUNYAC and Empire 8 are pulling for them!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2015, 06:31:02 AM
It was nice to see Cortland get a win in the opening round of the NCAA football playoffs. Red Dragon players getting a cross country trip...have hit the Big Time, big time. Now we need Cortland to do to Linfield what Buffalo State did to Whitewater a few seasons ago. Unfortunately that's a heluva tall order. But up here in Plattsburgh, I sure will be rooting for the Red Dragons.

And in basketball I'll be rooting for Oswego to take care of Middlebury in the Rochester tournament. The Panthers came out of the gate slowly this year, but beating SUNYAC champs Oswego will give them a big lift. Lakers have to bring their A game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 28, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
Yes, yes. Rooting for the RDragons this p.m. from Vols' country, but Linfield will be a handful -- at home with partisan crowd. Can do plenty of things including going airborne. That's been Cortland Achilles heel throughout the season, as well as its youth. The fact CSt took the Empire and then kayoed first round foe is quite the achievement for Coach Mac and his crew. Certainly know how to hang tough. We're good friends with Mac as well as Span. Class people. Team, coaches, etc. took off via charter on Thanksgiving on NCAA's dime. Of course, numbers were limited and Mac had tough task last weekend informing chosen few they wouldn't be making the 'once in a lifetime' trip ........and then .....some alumni to the rescue along with the brother of former coaching aide Matt Steenberg. Funds provided. That made Mac's day, not to mention those chosen few!! Appreciate the cheering sections from western and northern NY!!

By the way, Linfield with quite the D3 baseball program, though missing last season's World Series  won by Joe Brown's Cortlanders. Linfield for many years coached by Scott Brosius, who has left the post. Of course, NYers of Yankee colors remember his mvp infield play, yes?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2015, 01:55:48 PM
Two games on tap today in the SUNYAC.

Medaille  at  Fredonia State        2:30 PM

Once again the Blue Devils will try and get their 1st win of the season. Once again they will come up empty. Oddsmakers have the Medaille Mavericks favored by 7 points. I don't think it will be that close.  The Mavericks hung with a pretty good Geneseo team only losing 89-85. They have also beaten a decent St. Lawrence team.
Medaille comes away with an 80-64 win.
 
   
Middlebury     vs   Oswego State        7:00 PM  @ Univ. of Rochester

Middlebury finally broke into the win column at the expense of New Paltz on Tuesday night. Now they try for a SUNYAC winning streak. THe oddsmakers say that won't happen as they have Oswego favored by a 3 point margin on this neutral court matchup.  Middlebury lost at St. Lawrence 63-57.  Oswego won at St Lawrence 73-67. Do you see where I'm going here? I'll take the Lakers to win 74-68.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2015, 08:26:47 PM
Oswego State leads Middlebury 53-40 with 6:47 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2015, 08:56:32 PM
Medaille  defeats Fredonia State by a 95-74 final score.

I was afraid that the MOV would be much larger than the 7 points that had been predicted. I had the final margin at 16 points, 80-64, but the Mavericks ended the game on a 17-4 run that boosted the MOV even higher. Fredonia hung with Medaille for a good portion of this game, resulting in a first half that was a back and forth affair. Fredonia actually had a 1 point lead at the break, 42-41, led by 10 points from Richard De La Cruz.

Medaille gradually forged ahead and by the 12 minute mark had opened up a 12 point 64-52. For the next 8 minutes the Mavericks' lead would fluctuate between 8 and 15 points. With under 4 minutes to play and down by 16 points the foul parade started leading to the final score.

Richard De La Cruz was the high man for the Blue Devils with 21 points. Ian Helps had 13 points and a team high 6 boards. TYler Roberts had 12 points.

Medaille got a game high 27 points from Miles Newcomb, along with 6 rebounds. Chris Willingham had 21 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds.

Fredonia is now 0-5 and will next open conference play when they host Oswego State on 12-4 at 7:30 PM.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2015, 11:31:02 PM
Oswego State 70 Middlebury 55.

I had this as a 74-68 Oswego win. MOV got a little larger in the final few minutes as Oswego, up by 8 at 57-49 ended the game on a 13-6 run. Oswego led for almost the entire game except for a brief few minutes at the start of the contest.

Walter Sampson with 17 points was high man for the Lakers. Brian Sortino had 16 points and 6 rebounds, while Dustin Pond chipped in with 13 points. Mark Candelario with a game high 12 rebounds and Keith Tyson with 11 boards.

Matt St. Amour led Middlebury and was the game's high scorer with 23 points. Jake Brown added 13 points and Matt Dalet had 11 boards to lead the Panthers.

Oswego remains undefeated at 5-0 and will match up with host University of Rochester for the championship game on Sunday at 3 PM.

Middlebury drops to 1-3 and will play Johnson State in the consolation game at 1:00 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2015, 12:20:54 AM
Sunday November 29th.

Only game on the schedule today is the championship game of the Rochester Thanksgiving Tournament.

Oswego State at University of Rochester.  3:00 PM

Rochester enters this game with a 4-1 record with their best win coming in a 60-58 victory over a 2-2 Nazareth team. Their one loss was at the hands of Liberty League rival Hobart 87-70. Of interest is that the Lakers' SUNYAC rival, Buffalo State, owns wins over both Nazareth and Hobart. And the Bengals blew Hobart away by 20 points. I'd like to think that Oswego State and Buffalo State are 2 teams, along with several others,  that will fight for SUNYAC  supremacy this year. So I'm not sure where the oddsmakers are coming from when they make the Yellowjackets a slim 1 point favorite over Oswego. My initial reaction is to pick the Lakers by at least 6 points, even though the game is in Rochester. I think Middlebury would have beaten Rochester and think the championship game really took place on Saturday when the Panthers and Lakers met. On Sunday I'm taking the Lakers to win by a 75-67 final score and it wouldn't surprise me if the MOV was larger than 8 points.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2015, 01:16:01 AM
Tough loss today for the Cortland State Red Dragon football team. NCAA makes them travel around 3000 miles to face one of the powerhouse programs in the country. They gave Linfield a good game before 10 unanswered 3rd quarter points left them in a 24-10 hole and ultimately a 38-22 loss. Proud of their effort.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2015, 03:06:38 AM
Heading into action for the week ending 11-28 this is how the SUNYAC stands.

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents 20-16     (includes 2 games against non-DIII teams)


SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference NCAA DIII Teams    19-15  (13 losses are from our bottom 3 schools...top                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                     7 schools are 18-2)

magicman's predictions  30-6       

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2015, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 29, 2015, 03:06:38 AM
Heading into action for the week ending 11-28 this is how the SUNYAC stands.

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents 20-16     (includes 2 games against non-DIII teams)


SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference NCAA DIII Teams    19-15  (13 losses are from our bottom 3 schools...top                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                     7 schools are 18-2)

magicman's predictions  30-6     

Posting at 3:00 in the morning?   You are in mid season form already!! +k

Ditto on the congrats to Cortland's FOOTBALL team!  I watched the first 3 quarters and the Red Dragons looked capable of pulling off the upset at half time.  2nd half was a different animal as the Red Dragons qb just got pummeled! On a side note. After spending some time on the E8 football boards I must say that our Sunyac boards are a class operation.  The crap that folks say on that E8 boards about teams in their own conference is unbelievable. There was 1 poster hoping that the league only got 1 post season NCAA bid instead of 2 ( basically because his team wasn't going)! And this past week the Linfield folks were on the boards saying that they should win by 40...50.  That they were gonna " monkey stomp". (wtf?) Cortland.... and on and on! Classless IMHO. Kudos to CSU fans who didn't respond in similar fashion.  I'll take a Jdex, the Bear, 7express or the "Magic 1" any day of the week.  Always classy, even if they predict my Bengals will lose by 5!!!!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 29, 2015, 01:36:51 PM
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Hoopsville hits the air at 7pm ET tonight!

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2015, 02:46:08 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 29, 2015, 01:36:51 PM
Hoopsville returns from the Thanksgiving break with plenty to cover.

The season has certainly started with a lot of stuff. Rule changes, upsets, hot and cold starts, and more. That's why we added more Hoopsville shows to start the season! Tonight, we talk to some who have started hot, those with high expectations, and preview the final Wendy's Classic.

Hoopsville hits the air at 7pm ET tonight!

Guests include:
- Mike Daley, Wendy's Classic Director and former Nazareth men's coach
- Keith Bunkenburg, Benedictine men's coach
- Greg Mitchell, No. 16 Hope men's coach
- Abby Pyzik Smith, Lynchburg women's coach

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I'm on it tonight at 7!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
Down to the wire at Rochester where Oswego has a 55-54 lead with 16 seconds left to play. Rochester has the ball and takes time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2015, 04:38:19 PM
Oswego gets lucky and holds off the Yellowjackets as Rochester misses their final chance at the buzzer and Oswego grabs the rebound. final score 55-54.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2015, 07:13:12 PM
Oswego 55 Rochester 54

I'm not sure where the Lakers offense went to but I find it hard to believe it could be the defense of Rochester that held their scoring down. After all this is a team that gave up 87 points to Hobart and just yesterday gave up 67 points to Johnson State. Johnson State, by the way has a record of, 4-36 in their last 40 games and has yet to win a game this season.

I'd like to say it was a close, well played, game but I didn't watch it because Rochester charges $6.95 to watch a webcast of their game. :P I've been burned before where you pay the price of admission only to discover it's a lousy webcast. So now if it's not a free webcast then I pass and watch another game that is free. Pretty sad that Rochester, with all the money that school receives in endowments, feels they have to charge their fans to watch a video of the team, especially a home game. :( They can probably watch all or nearly all of the team's road games for free. :o I think I'll root for Rochester to lose every game they play this year. :D

The main thing is they lost this one. I thought Oswego would blow this team out of the water. I predicted a 75-67 final score and quite frankly thought they would win by more. The Lakers didn't shoot the ball very well (only 18x53 fg, 8x26 3's, 11x17 ft) and when they shot out to a 12 point lead at 30-18 in the first half they allowed Rochester to close within 5 at the break 35-30. 5 minutes into the 2nd period the Yellowjackets had tied the game up at 35 and now it was a ballgame. After 5 minutes of Oswego maintaining a 1 or 2 possession lead, the Lakers finally got some separation and led 47-40 with 10:24 left to play. 6 straight Rochester points once again prevented the Lakers from expanding their margin. Tied at 54 with 1:47 on the clock, both teams missed opportunities to gain the upper hand. Oswego got 1 of 2 free throws from Brian Sortino with 81 ticks left and that would prove to be the winning point as neither team could make a field goal with their final possessions. A Rochester turnover was followed by an Oswego miss. The Lakers got the offensive rebound, missed a 3 pointer and Rochester rebounded and took a time out. They missed their final attempt and the Lakers let out one big collective sigh of relief.

Walter Sampson was the high man for the Lakers and the only one in double figures with 16 points. He also led the team with 4 assists. Brian Sortino and Kyle Coveley both had 9 points. Coveley shared rebounding honors with Keith Tyson as they both had 7 boards.

Rochester got 21 points each from Jared Seltzer and Sam Borst-Smith. Zack Ayers and Dylan Peretz both had 7 rebounds as well.

Oswego improves to 6-0 and will make the westward trip to Fredonia and Buffalo State for games this coming weekend to launch conference play. The Blue Devils are up first with a Friday gametime of 7:30 PM         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 30, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
Magicman....a little off topic here.  Your state schools...as well as private schools has been beating on the poor NESCAC teams.  Expect the schools in upper NY to be good in ice hockey.  Amherst's took a pounding by Elmira 6-3 in hockey...then goes to Nazareth in Rochester's suburbs and barely tied the small college in OT.  Now this Friday, I see that the Amherst men's soccer team is meeting a SUNY school in the Final 4!  Thought the the talent was in Football...not Fubul on a pitch! :)  Amherst's coaches seek talent around the World ....could save Cash and just head to the Empire State! ;D
May give you a call later in the week to check what are Amherst's chances on advancing.  Let me know on the MBB board....really confuse the posters...one way or other....know you are a busy man.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2015, 05:25:55 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 30, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
Magicman....a little off topic here.  Your state schools...as well as private schools has been beating on the poor NESCAC teams.  Expect the schools in upper NY to be good in ice hockey.  Amherst's took a pounding by Elmira 6-3 in hockey...then goes to Nazareth in Rochester's suburbs and barely tied the small college in OT.  Now this Friday, I see that the Amherst men's soccer team is meeting a SUNY school in the Final 4!  Thought the the talent was in Football...not Fubul on a pitch! :)  Amherst's coaches seek talent around the World ....could save Cash and just head to the Empire State! ;D
May give you a call later in the week to check what are Amherst's chances on advancing.  Let me know on the MBB board....really confuse the posters...one way or other....know you are a busy man.

The Magic 1 is never too busy to talk about NY state schools. Especially those in the final 4! Its good to know that half of the final 4 come from the northeast!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2015, 10:10:03 PM
Oswego cracks the top 25

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week1

Geneseo also gets votes.  Other East teams .. St John Fisher is ranked #10 and Geneseo also got votes as did Hobart!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 30, 2015, 11:17:04 PM
Don't forget NYU is considered an East team... but don't get me started. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2015, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 30, 2015, 11:17:04 PM
Don't forget NYU is considered an East team... but don't get me started. :)

Oops. You are right Dave. I forgot #19 NYU. I guess I was trying to figure our how Hobart beat beat Scranton, and then Hobart loses to Buffalo State by 20. Each team has 1 loss but Scranton is ranked ahead of Hobart and Hobart is ranked ahead of Buff State (who doesn't get a single  vote)  >:(.  Maybe its strength of schedule or just the fact that we haven't caught any voters eye. :(   (yet)

BTW good show, although the first 55 seconds had me thrown off because I didn't think my sound was working!!   :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 01, 2015, 12:15:17 AM
LOL sorry about the first 55 seconds... was that live or On Demand - because I haven't gone back to fix that on YouTube :)

And thanks... we are trying to find our groove this season.

For the record... you pretty much explained why the only team I put on my ballot this week from the East Region was St. John Fisher. HOWEVER, I meant to include Oswego State, but apparently lost that written note between Sunday night and Monday afternoon when I voted. I mean... I only considered 50 or so teams. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2015, 09:42:12 AM
Quote from: amh63 on November 30, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
Magicman....a little off topic here.  Your state schools...as well as private schools has been beating on the poor NESCAC teams.  Expect the schools in upper NY to be good in ice hockey.  Amherst's took a pounding by Elmira 6-3 in hockey...then goes to Nazareth in Rochester's suburbs and barely tied the small college in OT.  Now this Friday, I see that the Amherst men's soccer team is meeting a SUNY school in the Final 4!  Thought the the talent was in Football...not Fubul on a pitch! :)  Amherst's coaches seek talent around the World ....could save Cash and just head to the Empire State! ;D
May give you a call later in the week to check what are Amherst's chances on advancing.  Let me know on the MBB board....really confuse the posters...one way or other....know you are a busy man.

amh63,

I had to watch the NESCAC schools beat up our "State" schools often enough, so that when we get a chance to return the favor it just evens things up...a bit.

Last year Trinity ended our Men's Hockey season when they beat us in the NCAA tournament. Amherst, Williams and Middlebury also beat the Cards last year in hockey. (Although the Amherst game officially was a tie) And twice in the past few years Amherst has beaten the Cardinals in Men's basketball in the NCAA tournament. Just recently Bowdoin beat the Cardinal Men's soccer team 1-0 in the NCAA's when they scored the only goal of the game with 15 seconds left to play.That one was a real heartbreaker.

NESCAC also got 2 National Champions in the spring with the Tufts Men winning the lacrosse title and the Tufts women taking home the softball championship

Maybe this year it will be our turn. One of the coaches I speak with on occasion, mentioned to me a few months ago, that he thought, with the price of higher education continuing to escalate, that more student athletes were going to choose State schools because of the cost factor. We shall see.

At any rate some plus results on the state schools' side of the ledger. Last Friday the Plattsburgh State Men's hockey team 8-0, and ranked #2 in the country beat Middlebury 5-4 and on Saturday beat Norwich 6-5 to capture the Championship of the Great Northern Shootout in Norwich.

The same weekend our Women's hockey team, the defending National Champions and ranked #1 in the nation won the Panther/Cardinal classic in Middlebury by beating Wisconsin-Stevens Point, 5-1 on Saturday and Gustavus Adolphus, 5-3 on Sunday. The Cardinals who are now 9-0 are trying for their 3rd consecutive National Championship. They have won a school record 20 straight games dating back to February of last season. Their record since the beginning of the 2012-13 season is a phenomenal  90-4-5.

The Plattsburgh Woman's basketball team just recently won their own Cardinal Classic championship by defeating the #7 ranked (at the time) Bowdoin Polar Bears by a 67-60 final score. Plattsburgh is currently 3-0 and that win boosted them into Others Receiving Votes category of the D3hoops Top 25 at #41. The Cardinals will face a tough stretch starting December 12th when they travel to Middlebury and then after the holiday break, take on Tufts and then Wesleyan in the Springfield/Naismith Classic at Springfield, Mass.

The Men's basketball team will match up against Middlebury on December 12th and then after the holidays will host last year's regular season NESCAC champ Trinity College.

The Cortland State Red Dragons did win the National Championship in baseball this past May and the Red Dragon Ladies won the National Championship in lacrosse in that same month. So that's a couple in our column.

The Cortland State football team won the Empire 8 conference this year beating the likes of private schools, Ithaca, Alfred and St. John Fisher to name a few. They won a first round NCAA game and then had to face powerhouse Linfield where they gave a good account of themselves before falling 38-22.   

That brings us to this coming weekend when your Amherst Lord Jeffs will meet the Oneonta State Red Dragons in the NCAA semifinals. The game is Friday night December 4th at 6:00 PM in Kansas City. There will be video available for this game presented by the NCAA. The other semifinal game between Loras and Calvin College will take place on or about 8:30.

Oneonta,19-3-1 has advanced to the National Semifinals for the 3rd time in the past 5 years, which is quite an impressive feat by itself. This marks the 6th straight year the Red Dragons have played in the NCAA's. They will be looking to advance to the championship game having lost in the semis  in 2014 and 2011. I thought that Oneonta's defense and in particular their goalkeeper, Vincent Pellegrino, was outstanding, as they have registered 9 straight shutouts. The Red Dragons have now gone 828 minutes without allowing a goal and have only given up a total of 9 goals all year.  Oneonta has scored 53 goals in 23 games for a 2.3 gpg average.

Amherst is coming off an exceptional season with a 17-1-1 mark. Amazingly, their 1 loss was to one of the lower ranked NESCAC teams in the first round of the conference tournament and so they did not win the NESCAC championship to get the conference's automatic bid. The tie on their record was the game before that against another middle of the pack NESCAC team, Trinity.

This is the 10th year in a row that Amherst has made the NCAA tournament. They, like Oneonta, have advanced to the National semifinals twice in those years, in 2008 and 2011. Both times the LJ's came up empty in those games. So this time one of these 2 programs will make it to the championship game. 

The Lord Jeffs will counter with their own hot goalkeeper who will take a back seat to no one. Thomas Bull, in goal for every one of the 19 games Amherst has played, shuts down the opposition perhaps better than anyone in the country. He has only allowed 4 goals all year long. That's 15 shutouts in 19 games.  Now that's mind-boggling. The LJ's have scored 43 goals in 19 games for an almost identical gpg average as Oneonta at 2.26.

This will be an interesting game and could go to overtime. The irresistible force meeting the immovable object. Hard to pick a winner here. The one common opponent these teams have is Williams College. Amherst beat Williams 2-1 in double overtime at Williams, while the Red Dragons lost to Williams 2-0 also at Willytown.
Hard to read much into that since soccer is a game where so many factors come into play, especially lucky bounces, weather, and penalty kicks. Oneonta's losses came early in the season when they were 3-2-1 after 6 games and then went 16-1 the rest of the way with their only loss being a 1-0 setback to NCAA qualifier Plattsburgh State. Amherst was perfect all season long and then stumbled a bit near the end with the tie in their final regular season game and the loss following that in the playoffs.

No predictions here as my crystal ball is very cloudy. I will, of course, be rooting for the Red Dragons to make it to the championship game and will wager a  fine dinner with my friend from D. C. that, if we ever meet, I will buy if the LJ's win and you will do likewise if the Red Dragons walk off the field victorious. ;D             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2015, 10:18:20 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 01, 2015, 12:15:17 AM
LOL sorry about the first 55 seconds... was that live or On Demand - because I haven't gone back to fix that on YouTube :)

And thanks... we are trying to find our groove this season.

For the record... you pretty much explained why the only team I put on my ballot this week from the East Region was St. John Fisher. HOWEVER, I meant to include Oswego State, but apparently lost that written note between Sunday night and Monday afternoon when I voted. I mean... I only considered 50 or so teams. LOL

On demand and no problem. I'm hoping that this year the east will be a "beast". Clearly Fisher is the cream of the crop right now! We play Oswego Saturday afternoon so I'm hoping that our best is yet to come. Keep up the good work!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2015, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2015, 09:42:12 AM
Quote from: amh63 on November 30, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
Magicman....a little off topic here.  Your state schools...as well as private schools has been beating on the poor NESCAC teams.  Expect the schools in upper NY to be good in ice hockey.  Amherst's took a pounding by Elmira 6-3 in hockey...then goes to Nazareth in Rochester's suburbs and barely tied the small college in OT.  Now this Friday, I see that the Amherst men's soccer team is meeting a SUNY school in the Final 4!  Thought the the talent was in Football...not Fubul on a pitch! :)  Amherst's coaches seek talent around the World ....could save Cash and just head to the Empire State! ;D
May give you a call later in the week to check what are Amherst's chances on advancing.  Let me know on the MBB board....really confuse the posters...one way or other....know you are a busy man.

amh63,

I had to watch the NESCAC schools beat up our "State" schools often enough, so that when we get a chance to return the favor it just evens things up...a bit.

Last year Trinity ended our Men's Hockey season when they beat us in the NCAA tournament. Amherst, Williams and Middlebury also beat the Cards last year in hockey. (Although the Amherst game officially was a tie) And twice in the past few years Amherst has beaten the Cardinals in Men's basketball in the NCAA tournament. Just recently Bowdoin beat the Cardinal Men's soccer team 1-0 in the NCAA's when they scored the only goal of the game with 15 seconds left to play.That one was a real heartbreaker.

NESCAC also got 2 National Champions in the spring with the Tufts Men winning the lacrosse title and the Tufts women taking home the softball championship

Maybe this year it will be our turn. One of the coaches I speak with on occasion, mentioned to me a few months ago, that he thought, with the price of higher education continuing to escalate, that more student athletes were going to choose State schools because of the cost factor. We shall see.

At any rate some plus results on the state schools' side of the ledger. Last Friday the Plattsburgh State Men's hockey team 8-0, and ranked #2 in the country beat Middlebury 5-4 and on Saturday beat Norwich 6-5 to capture the Championship of the Great Northern Shootout in Norwich.

The same weekend our Women's hockey team, the defending National Champions and ranked #1 in the nation won the Panther/Cardinal classic in Middlebury by beating Wisconsin-Stevens Point, 5-1 on Saturday and Gustavus Adolphus, 5-3 on Sunday. The Cardinals who are now 9-0 are trying for their 3rd consecutive National Championship. They have won a school record 20 straight games dating back to February of last season. Their record since the beginning of the 2012-13 season is a phenomenal  90-4-5.

The Plattsburgh Woman's basketball team just recently won their own Cardinal Classic championship by defeating the #7 ranked (at the time) Bowdoin Polar Bears by a 67-60 final score. Plattsburgh is currently 3-0 and that win boosted them into Others Receiving Votes category of the D3hoops Top 25 at #41. The Cardinals will face a tough stretch starting December 12th when they travel to Middlebury and then after the holiday break, take on Tufts and then Wesleyan in the Springfield/Naismith Classic at Springfield, Mass.

The Men's basketball team will match up against Middlebury on December 12th and then after the holidays will host last year's regular season NESCAC champ Trinity College.

The Cortland State Red Dragons did win the National Championship in baseball this past May and the Red Dragon Ladies won the National Championship in lacrosse in that same month. So that's a couple in our column.

The Cortland State football team won the Empire 8 conference this year beating the likes of private schools, Ithaca, Alfred and St. John Fisher to name a few. They won a first round NCAA game and then had to face powerhouse Linfield where they gave a good account of themselves before falling 38-22.   

That brings us to this coming weekend when your Amherst Lord Jeffs will meet the Oneonta State Red Dragons in the NCAA semifinals. The game is Friday night December 4th at 6:00 PM in Kansas City. There will be video available for this game presented by the NCAA. The other semifinal game between Loras and Calvin College will take place on or about 8:30.

Oneonta,19-3-1 has advanced to the National Semifinals for the 3rd time in the past 5 years, which is quite an impressive feat by itself. This marks the 6th straight year the Red Dragons have played in the NCAA's. They will be looking to advance to the championship game having lost in the semis  in 2014 and 2011. I thought that Oneonta's defense and in particular their goalkeeper, Vincent Pellegrino, was outstanding, as they have registered 9 straight shutouts. The Red Dragons have now gone 828 minutes without allowing a goal and have only given up a total of 9 goals all year.  Oneonta has scored 53 goals in 23 games for a 2.3 gpg average.

Amherst is coming off an exceptional season with a 17-1-1 mark. Amazingly, their 1 loss was to one of the lower ranked NESCAC teams in the first round of the conference tournament and so they did not win the NESCAC championship to get the conference's automatic bid. The tie on their record was the game before that against another middle of the pack NESCAC team, Trinity.

This is the 10th year in a row that Amherst has made the NCAA tournament. They, like Oneonta, have advanced to the National semifinals twice in those years, in 2008 and 2011. Both times the LJ's came up empty in those games. So this time one of these 2 programs will make it to the championship game. 

The Lord Jeffs will counter with their own hot goalkeeper who will take a back seat to no one. Thomas Bull, in goal for every one of the 19 games Amherst has played, shuts down the opposition perhaps better than anyone in the country. He has only allowed 4 goals all year long. That's 15 shutouts in 19 games.  Now that's mind-boggling. The LJ's have scored 43 goals in 19 games for an almost identical gpg average as Oneonta at 2.26.

This will be an interesting game and could go to overtime. The irresistible force meeting the immovable object. Hard to pick a winner here. The one common opponent these teams have is Williams College. Amherst beat Williams 2-1 in double overtime at Williams, while the Red Dragons lost to Williams 2-0 also at Willytown.
Hard to read much into that since soccer is a game where so many factors come into play, especially lucky bounces, weather, and penalty kicks. Oneonta's losses came early in the season when they were 3-2-1 after 6 games and then went 16-1 the rest of the way with their only loss being a 1-0 setback to NCAA qualifier Plattsburgh State. Amherst was perfect all season long and then stumbled a bit near the end with the tie in their final regular season game and the loss following that in the playoffs.

No predictions here as my crystal ball is very cloudy. I will, of course, be rooting for the Red Dragons to make it to the championship game and will wager a  fine dinner with my friend from D. C. that, if we ever meet, I will buy if the LJ's win and you will do likewise if the Red Dragons walk off the field victorious. ;D             
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2015, 05:25:55 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 30, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
Magicman....a little off topic here.  Your state schools...as well as private schools has been beating on the poor NESCAC teams.  Expect the schools in upper NY to be good in ice hockey.  Amherst's took a pounding by Elmira 6-3 in hockey...then goes to Nazareth in Rochester's suburbs and barely tied the small college in OT.  Now this Friday, I see that the Amherst men's soccer team is meeting a SUNY school in the Final 4!  Thought the the talent was in Football...not Fubul on a pitch! :)  Amherst's coaches seek talent around the World ....could save Cash and just head to the Empire State! ;D
May give you a call later in the week to check what are Amherst's chances on advancing.  Let me know on the MBB board....really confuse the posters...one way or other....know you are a busy man.

The Magic 1 is never too busy to talk about NY state schools. Especially those in the final 4! Its good to know that half of the final 4 come from the northeast!

The Magicman comes through.  I just learned a heck of a lot about the other sports teams in the 'Yac!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2015, 11:10:26 AM
I looked into my crystal ball and I have a feeling a fellow from DC with the amh63 moniker will be the next person to post on this board.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 01, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Magicman....thanks for the response and the free "lecture"....well worth the price of a meal.  Your  glove is picked up.
If your Red Dragons win....thought Cortland St. has that mascot.....I will send you the money for a Dinner for Two at a place of your choice.  I'm sure your wife knows where to go :).   I have made a offer for our Midd fans when they come to Amherst....but it is hard with the schedules, etc.....thus the nature of my offer to you.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: amh63 on December 01, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Magicman....thanks for the response and the free "lecture"....well worth the price of a meal.  Your  glove is picked up.
If your Red Dragons win....thought Cortland St. has that mascot.....I will send you the money for a Dinner for Two at a place of your choice.  I'm sure your wife knows where to go :).   I have made a offer for our Midd fans when they come to Amherst....but it is hard with the schedules, etc.....thus the nature of my offer to you.

No you can't do that. The dinner bet is only acceptable if we get to enjoy each others company.

And our conference is spread out so far around New York State we needed 2 Red Dragons to cover the territory so Oneonta and Cortland both applied for the job. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2015, 12:34:53 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2015, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: amh63 on December 01, 2015, 11:14:18 AM
Magicman....thanks for the response and the free "lecture"....well worth the price of a meal.  Your  glove is picked up.
If your Red Dragons win....thought Cortland St. has that mascot.....I will send you the money for a Dinner for Two at a place of your choice.  I'm sure your wife knows where to go :).   I have made a offer for our Midd fans when they come to Amherst....but it is hard with the schedules, etc.....thus the nature of my offer to you.

No you can't do that. The dinner bet is only acceptable if we get to enjoy each others company.

And our conference is spread out so far around New York State we needed 2 Red Dragons to cover the territory so Oneonta and Cortland both applied for the job. :D

2 Red Dragons but only 1 Magicman!  This state, nor these boards, could handle 2! 😃
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2015, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2015, 02:02:09 AM
Not even my crystal ball could foresee that said player, Mr. Marmelejos, who had a grand total of 13 made 3 pointers in his 24 prior games in a Buffalo State uniform, would erupt like Mount Vesuvius and pour in 10 bombs in one night. And don't anybody with the Bengals name in their moniker or anyone affiliated with Buffalo State hoops, try and tell me that they saw this outburst coming either. Cause if they do, their nose is gonna grow and their pants will catch fire.

Young Mr. Marmelejos would be well served to retrace his steps for the entire 24 hour period leading up to this game and write them down. He has apparently hit upon some "magic" formula and as this prestidigitator has learned over the years, leave nothing to chance, because if you find a system that works, then stick with it.

Congratulations to Kevin for breaking Jake's record. 8-) I watched Jake on video the night he buried his 9 triples against my Cardinals on 1-21-2012 ( we learned from that...he only got 7 against us 2 weeks later). Tonight I managed to see about half of those 10 3's. I was a bit surprised that when Kevin got that offensive rebound late in the first half he didn't do a heat check and dribble out to the 3 point line and fire up another one. Why spoil things by making a measley 2 point putback. ???  Nice to see Kevin didn't play favorites...he was 5x7 from long distance in the first half and 5x7 from long distance in the 2nd half. Someday, someone make break his record, but I bet they won't match his synchronicity. ;D

I suppose this record setting performance makes Kevin a leading candidate for the next SUNYAC Player of the Week award. Back to back Bengals to start the year? I would have bet against that. :o

How did the Magic 1 know?

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                                                                                                              From SUNYAC WEBSITE

MEN'S BASKETBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK - Kevin Marmolejos (SR)
Buffalo State, Guard (Woodhaven, NY/Beach Channel)
Kevin Marmolejos scored a career-high 32 points as he led Buffalo State to a 98-78 victory over previously undefeated Hobart on Tuesday. The senior guard set a school single-game record with 10 3-pointers, going 10 of 14 from long range. Marmolejos scored the Bengals' first 15 points, going 5 of 5 from 3-point range in the opening 6:27 of the game, giving Buffalo State a 15-4 lead it would never relinquish. He also finished the game with four rebounds, two assists and a steal.

Hmmmmmm   Can we get 3 in a row?  Mike Henry??  Jordan Glover???  Lovell Smith (oops he's out injiured)!!

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
Congratulations to Kevin Marmelejos for his first Player of the Week award. And to the Bengals for back to back winners.

I was kind of hoping there might be co-winners of the weekly award. I know Kevin had a big night and set the record for 3's by a Buff State player but Plattsburgh State's  Kyle Richardson had a pretty big night also with his career highs of 36 points and 15 rebounds against Skidmore. Either one of those stats is a pretty good day at the office but to get a double-double of that magnitude is certainly Player of the Week honors. He'll have to be happy with the magicman's Co-Player of the Week honors.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2015, 07:05:18 PM
Five games on the agenda for the SUNYAC tonight as North Country and Central New York rivals face off in their annual battles. 

Cortland State  at  Ithaca        6:00 PM

This annual battle between central New York rivals could be a good game to take in tonight as both teams are off to a good start. The hoops version of the Cortaca Jug has been tilted toward the Red Dragons recent;y as they have won 4 straight in this series  to go along with their 6 straight wins on the gridiron. The Bombers may have a lot to say about that this year as they seem to have a quality product and hope to start a winning streak of their own to match the 5 straight games they won between 2005 and 2010. Cortland has a 3-0 record but hasn't been tested as none of those opponents possessed a winning record. Utica College did give them a scare as the Red Dragons dug themselves a big hole and had to overcome a double digit Pioneer lead. Cortland was still down by 7 points with 2:32 left in the game and managed to right the ship and come away with an 87-85 victory. Ithaca opened the season with a solid 90-84 win over the reigning Liberty League champion Skidmore Thoroughbreds. They followed that with a loss at always tough Scranton before defeating the same 2 teams Cortland did in the recent Cortaca Classic Tournament. The point spread favors the Red Dragons but only by a single point effectively making this game a pick em. I, of course will pick the Red Dragons in a barnburner, by a 75-72 final score.

      
Potsdam State  at   Clarkson   7:00 PM

These two teams went at it just 10 days ago with the Golden Knight downing Potsdam 66-60 on the Bears home court. Today they hit the hardwood in Clarkson's Alumni Gym and the Knights are favored by 14 points. Potsdam, 0-4, still looking for that initial win and this is one of their rare chances to get it. Clarkson only 2-5, will also find the going tough this year after losing so much to graduation. This may be a chance for Potsdam to break into the win column but my crystal ball, admittedly a bit cloudy after all that Thanksgiving turkey still sees the Knights winning on their home court...but not by 14 points. Clarkson 68 Potsdam 63.

      
St. Lawrence  at  Plattsburgh State      7:30 PM

D3hoops has this game listed as an 8:00 PM start, but both schools show it as a 7:30 start. The women from SLU will take on the Cardinal ladies at 5:30 so unless they go to OT this game should start on time. Plattsburgh has been on the long end of the score in this series for the last 6 meetings. That is probably the longest winning streak in this rivalry, at least in the magicman's lifetime. The last 3 meetings have all been double digit wins by the Cardinals but I will be surprised if that is the case tonight. St. Lawrence has been an up and down team this season as they hung with #25 Oswego State in their opening game losing by a 73-67 margin. THye then were blown out by Brockport State by an 81-57 score. They dropped a close game to a decent Medaille team and then defeated, Middlebury by a 63-57 margin. The Panthers almost always give the Cardinals a tough time so I think any team that can beat Middlebury will pose a challenge to Plattsburgh. The Cardinals handled the Saints rival Clarkson rather easily to open the season, but were themselves handled rather easily by Skidmore last week. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 9 point favorite but the Cardinals will have to play a much better brand of basketball than what I witnessed last week to win by that margin. I think they play better but will still make enough mistakes to keep this one close. Plattsburgh wins by a 73-69 final.
         
Oneonta State  at Hartwick        8:00 PM

The Hawks have owned the Red Dragons recently as they have a 5 game winning streak against the Red Dragons and have won 7 of the last 9 games. Hartwick opened the season with a bad 20 point loss to a Union team that is 1-3. Then most recently, they played a solid game against Eastern Connecticut losing by a 93-87 margin. In between they  have posted 3 wins over mediocre competition. Oneonta has only played 2 games and with a little luck could be 2-0 but dropped a tough overtime decision at Franklin & Marshall. The point spread favors the Hawks in this game but only by a slim 3 points. Hartwick returned 4 starters from last year's team that beat the Red Dragons by  11 points at Oneonta's house. I think they will hold court in their house. I hope I'm wrong about this one but I think Hartwick will pull out an 82-76 win.


Alfred  at  Fredonia    7:30 PM 

This game is not listed on the D3hoops schedule but again both teams are showing it so I'm assuming it will be played.

The Saxons are 4-1 and hung with Geneseo, only losing by an 81-78 final score. Fredonia is 0-5 and hasn't been close in any of those losses. They certainly aren't as good as Geneseo so i don't see much hope for them here. The point spread has them listed as a 13 point underdog. I think they will lose by that much..at least. Alfred wins by an 80-68 final score.   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2015, 07:51:03 PM
Cortland disappointed at Ithaca, falls 83-74 to second half Bombers' comeback. Corts jump to 22-7 lead and hold 44-38 margin at the half. Soph M. Chasin of IC with 27 pts(11x17fg, 3x6 3s, 7 reb, 3 assts); sr. S. Bevan 22 pts (5x10fg, 11x13ft, 8 rebs). Bevan with 10 of IC 18 assists, RDragons as a team with just 9!!! B. Estarfaa 17 pts for Cortland (7x11fg, 3x7 3s); G. Carter 10 pts (4x9fg, 4 assts). P. Ezema 8 reb. for Ithaca

Last CSt lead 61-59

IC 28x57fg for 49 percent, Cortland 28x71 for 39 percent. IC 7x22 3s, Corts a mere 5x26. Bombers 42-36 board advantage as well as solid free throwing. IC 22 turnovers to guests/ 13 -- one of the few Dragon advantages. Z. Lydon, JP Reagan each see just 15' of court time


Cortland 3-1 and opens conference play Friday at Buff St. At Fredonia the next afternoon. IC 4-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2015, 10:29:56 PM
    Plattsburgh beats St Lawrence, Cortland loses to Ithaca, Oneonta beats Hartwick, Potsdam loses to Clarkson and Fredonia gets its first win of the season versus 4-1 Alfred!! A lot of SUNYAC vs Empire 8 and  Liberty League today. At a glance it looks like the 'Yac is doing good versus it's East cousins. It appears that the 'Yac is 7 -3 versus Liberty League and 6-1 versus Empire 8.I could be wrong (and if I am I'm sure the Magicman will correct me)!!

   This week its entirely possible that both Brockport and Geneseo could run into St John Fisher (E8), Nazareth (E8), Hobart (LL) or  RIT (LL) during Wendy's tourney (actually Geneseo opens up in 1st round vs  Nazareth tomorrow). Plus there at least 4 games left in 2015 between our Eastern neighbors (Cortland vs. Elmira - E8, BUFFALO STATE vs. Alfred - E8, Oneonta vs St J Fisher - E8 and Potsdam vs. St Lawrence - LL).

I'm hoping the best for the 'Yac with the remaining non-conference games!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 12:36:51 AM
Tuesday's final scores :

Ithaca 83  Cortland State 74

Clarkson 79  Potsdam State 58

Plattsburgh State 77  St. Lawrence 65

Oneonta State 105  Hartwick 88

Fredonia State 82  Alfred 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 06:36:46 AM
Plattsburgh State 77  St. Lawrence 65

I had the Cardinals winning this one by a 73-69 final score. I was only 4 points off on each side. The game could have been a bit closer as the Saints, down 68-60, resorted to firing up a half dozen 3 point attempts in the final 3 minutes, but failed to hit a single one resulting in the 12 point MOV at the end.
 
The Cardinals came out a little tentative to start the game and the Saints jumped out to a quick 12-4 lead. First year guard/forward Jonathan Patron was inserted into the game and immediately paid dividends as he went to the hoop for a layup off a nice feed by Zach Coleman. The X-Man, Xavier Thomas, was fouled going to the rim and made a pair of free throws and he followed that up with another successful drive to the basket a short time later. Patron was then fouled in the act and he made a pair from the line to make the score 16-14 and the Cards were on their way. A 22-7 run over the next 9 minutes turned into a 13 point lead for Plattsburgh, but  the Saints would cut that deficit to 8 points at the break.

Down by 12 points with 3 minutes gone by in the 2nd period, the Saints put together a mini-run to get within 2 points at 48-46 with 14 minutes left to play. Once again the Cardinals hit the throttle and burst out to another double digit advantage with a 13-2 run to go up 61-48. SLU managed to make it a 2 possession game one last time when they scored 7 unanswered points to make it 61-55 but Plattsburgh would have none of that and a dunk by the X-man and another pair of free throws from Patron restored the double digit lead and the Cards cruised to the finish line.

Jon Patron was the high man for Plattsburgh's balanced scoring attack as he led 4 players in double figures with 18 points. He just missed his first Cardinal double-double as he had 9 rebounds in 22 minutes of action. Eddie Correa did have a double-double as he scored 17 points and grabbed 11 rebounds (a career high I believe). Ed also had a game high four 3 pointers. Kyle Richardson continued his solid play as he had a 2nd straight double-double with 15 points, a game high 12 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and a block. Xavier Thomas threw down several mighty dunks, one on a spectacular lob pass from Zach Coleman, which brought the Memorial Hall crowd to its feet. The X-man finished with 15 points, 7 rebounds and 2 steals. Point guard Zach Coleman only scored 4 points but had 7 assists and 3 rebounds in 26 minutes. Eli Bryant came off the bench with 4 assists, 2 points, 2 rebounds and a steal in 19 minutes.

SLU was led by Kyle Edwards with 20 points and 4 assists. Riley Naclerio added 15 points and 8 rebounds.

Plattsburgh improves to 2-1 and will now head down to New Paltz to take on the Hawks for the start of conference play. That game will start at 7:30 PM in the Hawk Center. Oneonta will be the opponent on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 07:39:13 AM
Tuesday's final scores :

Ithaca 83  Cortland State 74

Cortland lost this game during a 3 minute stretch starting at the 7:38 mark  when the game was tied at 61. The Red Dragons missed a jumper on their possession and the Bombers came down and nailed one to take a 63-61 lead. Cortland misses a 3 pointer and Ithaca scores again. Cortland cuts the lead to 65-63 with a basket, but the Bombers Marc Chasin drains a 3. Cortland turns it over and then fouls Rich Carroll, who makes both free throws. Cortland misses another 3 pointer and Chasis comes down and swishes another bomb. Just like that it's a 10 point 73-63 Ithaca lead with 4:34 left to play. The Red Dragons were toast and the Bombers finally end their losing streak. I picked Cortland to win this one by a  75-72 final. Small consolation...I was only a single point away from my Cortland total.



Clarkson 79  Potsdam State 58

I had Clarkson winning this one 68-63 but the Bears were never in this game. The Golden Knights opened up  with a 19-0 run and their coach could have lit the victory cigar with 12 minutes left in the first half. During the opening 8 minutes the Bears were 0x8 from the field with 5 turnovers. Not exactly a recipe for success. The lead grew to as much as 27 points before the break and it would be way too much for the Bears to overcome. They did get to within 14 points at 49-35 with 15 minutes left in the game, but Clarkson quickly built it back to a 21 point margin and coasted home from there. Earlier, when checking out this matchup, the game was listed as being played at Clarkson's Alumni Gym, but was, in fact, played at Potsdam's Jerry Welsh Gym.

Potsdam was led by Joe Estramonte with 14 points and 5 steals. Dante Langley had 12 points and 7 rebounds, while Nosa Onabor had 11 points.

Clarkson got 21 points and 5 rebounds from Conrad Zampier. They got 19 points and 11 rebounds from Derek Hart for a nice double-double. Felix Abongo had 17 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists.

The Bears 0-5, will be back in action this weekend when they make the long trip south to take on Oneonta State at 7:30 PM on Friday night, followed by New Paltz on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM.


Oneonta State 105  Hartwick 88

This game turned out to be a pleasant surprise. I was hoping for an Oneonta victory but on paper the Hawks looked to be the stronger team. I had the Red Dragons losing a close 82-76 game but they were in front all the way and every time the Hawks made an effort to pull even the Red Dragons just opened up some daylight. Oneonta led by 10 points at the half and when Hartwick closed to within 2 at 58-56 early in the period, the Red Dragons responded with a 10-0 run to slam the door on that idea. The Hawks inched closer at 70-65 with 13 minutes to go but another 14-4 move gave the Red Dragons a 15 point lead and the Hawks never got closer than 8 points the rest of the game.

Oneonta got a monster game from Lawrence Coleman with 32 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Jackson Zuvic added 19 points and 5 rebounds.  Jack Dignan managed a double-double with 13 points,  10 assists and 4 rebounds. Ian Shupp came off the bench to score 12 points, hand out 3 helpers and grab 3 rebounds.

Hartwick had 5 different players hit double figures led by 21 from Justin Pratt. Jake Sinicki and Trevor Norton each dropped in 15 points.

Oneonta improves to 2-1 and will meet the North Country duo of Potsdam on Friday evening and Plattsburgh on Saturday afternoon.
   

Fredonia State 82  Alfred 69

Somebody pinch me quick, I have to be dreaming. Not only does my dream say the Blue Devils got off the schnied and won their first game of the season but they beat an Empire 8 team by double digits that was 4-1 and hung with Geneseo. Happy for the Blue Devils and hope they can win a few more. Maybe the start of something positive to build on.

Down by 8 points at the half the Blue Devils pulled off a 2nd half rally that saw them outscore the Saxons by a 52-31 margin to come away with the win. Ian Helps had some help tonight as the big guy led the way with a double-double of 22 points and 10 rebounds. Kareem Brown also managed a double-double with 12 points and 10 boards. Kasean Jackson flirted with a triple-triple as he had 13 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists. Jared Fish was just perfect as he was 4x4 from the field and 1x1 from the line to score 9 points off the bench.

Alfred had 4 players hit double figures led by Tyler Seelman with 18 points and Dalton Cousin with 15 markers.

The Blue Devils 1-5, will have a struggle on their hands to start a winning streak as the next team they get is the reigning SUNYAC Champion Oswego Lakers, who will pay a visit to the Steele Hall FieldHouse this Friday evening at 7:30 PM. Cortland will be in town on Saturday afternoon     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
I know this is the Men's board but had to put this out there. Last night before the Plattsburgh State men took on the St. Lawrence men, the Lady Cardinals met the St. Lawrence women. Plattsburgh won the game by an 81-71 final score to stay perfect on the year at 4-0.

The big news of the night concerned the Cardinals senior forward, Devona Paul.  Devona is currently the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week and last night she had the biggest game of her life as she scored 49 points, (yes that's Forty Nine) grabbed 11 rebounds, dished out 3 assists, had a block and a steal. The 49 points broke the previous school record, for the women's team, of 36 points, by a substantial margin. In speaking with one of the guys from the Sports Information Department, I asked him if it was a record for the women and he told me it was. I then asked him if it was more points than anyone from the men's team had ever scored? He didn't know the answer to that question but I'm willing to bet that it probably is. I've followed Plattsburgh State basketball for 50 years and I know of nobody that ever put up a number that large.

The biggest number prior to last night, that anyone from a DIII women's team has put up this year, was 36 points.  I wonder if the SUNYAC will see fit to honor Devona with another Player of the Week award again next week?  ???  Kind of hard to ignore a game like that. She could have 2 bad games this weekend and still wind up as the leading point producer for the week, among the ladies.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2015, 11:39:20 AM
Congrats to Devona! I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that she should make the D#HOOPS team of the week along with SUNYAC POW.  Hope she is tired by Jan 9th!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on December 02, 2015, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
I know this is the Men's board but had to put this out there. Last night before the Plattsburgh State men took on the St. Lawrence men, the Lady Cardinals met the St. Lawrence women. Plattsburgh won the game by an 81-71 final score to stay perfect on the year at 4-0.

The big news of the night concerned the Cardinals senior forward, Devona Paul.  Devona is currently the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week and last night she had the biggest game of her life as she scored 49 points, (yes that's Forty Nine) grabbed 11 rebounds, dished out 3 assists, had a block and a steal. The 49 points broke the previous school record, for the women's team, of 36 points, by a substantial margin. In speaking with one of the guys from the Sports Information Department, I asked him if it was a record for the women and he told me it was. I then asked him if it was more points than anyone from the men's team had ever scored? He didn't know the answer to that question but I'm willing to bet that it probably is. I've followed Plattsburgh State basketball for 50 years and I know of nobody that ever put up a number that large.

The biggest number prior to last night, that anyone from a DIII women's team has put up this year, was 36 points.  I wonder if the SUNYAC will see fit to honor Devona with another Player of the Week award again next week?  ???  Kind of hard to ignore a game like that. She could have 2 bad games this weekend and still wind up as the leading point producer for the week, among the ladies.

One of my former prospects and a 4th team preseason All-American, Lisa Murphy of Carnegie-Mellon, had 37 Monday including 16-16 from the field. She's had at least 27 in all 5 games and 1 additional in which she made all her FGAs(11).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2015, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: ronk on December 02, 2015, 01:30:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
I know this is the Men's board but had to put this out there. Last night before the Plattsburgh State men took on the St. Lawrence men, the Lady Cardinals met the St. Lawrence women. Plattsburgh won the game by an 81-71 final score to stay perfect on the year at 4-0.

The big news of the night concerned the Cardinals senior forward, Devona Paul.  Devona is currently the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week and last night she had the biggest game of her life as she scored 49 points, (yes that's Forty Nine) grabbed 11 rebounds, dished out 3 assists, had a block and a steal. The 49 points broke the previous school record, for the women's team, of 36 points, by a substantial margin. In speaking with one of the guys from the Sports Information Department, I asked him if it was a record for the women and he told me it was. I then asked him if it was more points than anyone from the men's team had ever scored? He didn't know the answer to that question but I'm willing to bet that it probably is. I've followed Plattsburgh State basketball for 50 years and I know of nobody that ever put up a number that large.

The biggest number prior to last night, that anyone from a DIII women's team has put up this year, was 36 points.  I wonder if the SUNYAC will see fit to honor Devona with another Player of the Week award again next week?  ???  Kind of hard to ignore a game like that. She could have 2 bad games this weekend and still wind up as the leading point producer for the week, among the ladies.

One of my former prospects and a 4th team preseason All-American, Lisa Murphy of Carnegie-Mellon, had 37 Monday including 16-16 from the field. She's had at least 27 in all 5 games and 1 additional in which she made all her FGAs(11).

36...37... I think Magicman's point was that 49 pts was the best to date this year, however I see that Lisa is the 2nd leading scorer in Div 3 hoops at 30.5! Looks like she may move up from 4th team all -american when this season is all said and done!!  Clearly Lisa and Devona are 2 to watch!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2015, 05:29:54 PM
Speaking of Hoops I can't help but get excited at the thought of SUNYAC play beginning in 50 hours (48 for the women). I haven't been this excited about my beloved BENGALS since.....ever!!!!!

   "DEPTH" is the key word for this years team. in the 1st 5 games of this season the BENGALS HAVE HAD 5 DIFFERENT LEADING SCORERS!!! Junior -Lovell Smith (23 vs Canisius College -Leading scorer on either team - exhibition), Freshman - Dominic Grayer (18 vs NAIA Div 2 Point Park ), Junior - Nico McLean ( 29 vs Villa Maria- Week 2 SUNYAC player of the week... say no more), Soph - Mike Henry (20 vs.  Nazareth College - Coles tourney all tourney team) and Senior - Kevin Marmelejos (32 vs Hobart - Week 3 SUNYAC Player of the week...say no more). I doubt (but won't check) any Div 3 team, with 5 games, can say that they have had 5 different leading scorers in their first 5 games!!!!  (Magicman, you can start checking  ;)). Plus all 5 of these guys don't start!!

   Add to that mixture the current SUNYAC conferences leading assist and assist to turnover ratio play-maker, Junior -Jordan Glover, and you have the makings for something special. I didn't even mention 6'7 Junior - Jordan Chateau (aka "J. C.") who is 1 of the best big men I have seen at Buffalo State since their Championship season. I predict both Jordan's will get some serious consideration at the end of the season, for ALL- SUNYAC. And don't forget, 6'8 Junior - Leon Moise, who was in the top 15 of shot blockers last season while averaging only 7 mins a game. Speaking of big men....add Senior - Akeem Williams and Juniors -Luke Jenkins and Marcus Nelson to the list of BENGALS who will make a difference in the paint for this season! These 3 don't mind banging and doing the dirty work. And in SUNYAC....there's plenty "dirty work' (i.e rebounding, boxing out, protecting the paint etc - thought I'd define "dirty" so that someone does not misinterpret what "dirty" means) to do!!

And at Guard.... oowweee. talk about "Land of Plenty"....??  Add the name Sophomore - Redell "Free" Freeman, guards to look out for this year. His  nearly 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio would have him ranked if he played more minutes/games. Not to be out done by "Free" is Ryniek Holloway who, as a freshman, is described with 1 word ...."Poise"! Freshman - Jordan (aka "J. O."  because there just too many damn "Jordans" on the team), brings grit and determination that he learned from legendary Green Tech H.S. coach, Jamil Hood, when he played on that 2013-14 Class A State Championship team from Troy NY. Plus I understand that Santa Claus has some special "Senior - Fire" for the BENGALS come Xmas time (but I guess I'll have to wait to see what that is). From what I've seen so far, there is abundance of talent and more importantly, good chemistry on this BENGALS team. However that and $1.09 will get me a cup of coffee (any size) at McDonald's. In SUNYAC..."talk, and McDonalds coffee,  is cheap". You have to go get it done week in and week out when 'Yac play begins!! And begin it does this week.

  I have no doubt that 2 of the toughest teams in the nation,  are coming to town this weekend!  The Cortland Red Dragons, led by head Coach (and senior SUNYAC Statesmen) Tom Spanbauer, who is entering his 20th season as CSU head coach. Heck, he's been at Cortland longer than most of his players have been...alive. If ever there was a coach in the 'Yac who knows the ins and outs of every team in this conference, its Spanbauer. I've been told that not enough credit is giving to this master of taking what ever he has and molding it into a competitive team every season! And from what I've read, and heard, he has molded quite the team.

   And if that ain't bad enough.....on Saturday come the 25th ranked (source D3HOOPS),and undefeated, Oswego Lakers (6-0).  My God, the SUNYAC schedule makers must sure have it out for my beloved BENGALS when they put this schedule together! Magicmans and D3HOOPS preseason favorite to be the best in the 'Yac.  With a resume like that, its no wonder that some of the BENGAL faithful are worried that this could be a tough weekend. And then other BENGAL faithful are looking forward to this weekend. Include me in that category! If you want to be the best, then you have to beat the best. And undoubtedly, from all that I've read,  the BEST is coming to town this weekend!   

SHUCKS....I'M PUMPED!!!!

GO BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Just a couple of things to my friend from Buffalo.

1. You must have taken a couple of word pills today. Haven't seen you so chatty in a while. Did you buy the generic kind at Walmart or were they the step up, brand name, variety at Target?  :o

2. Plattsburgh State made the blueprint and holds the record for different players leading the team in scoring when they had 9 different players pull that off in the 2013-14 season. 4 different players in the first 4 games, 5 on the first 6. (We don't count exhibition games. Then again we rarely get a chance to have them. ::))

3. The best won't be in the Queen City this weekend, very good for sure, but the best won't be there until January 29th 2016 when the Cardinals roll into town. ;D


PS. Your team does sound loaded, hope you have a great season and come in 2nd place in the conference and get an at large NCAA bid.  8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 06:35:09 PM
2 games on tap today involving SUNYAC teams both playing in the annual Wendy's Tournament.

Brockport State  vs  University of Rochester at Hobart

The Golden Eagles are undefeated but have only played 2 games this season. Rochester is 4-2 and most recently lost a nailbiter to Oswego 55-54. Oddsmakers have made Brockport a 1 point favorite here on a neutral court but I think the Golden Eagles will win this one by a 76-70 final.

What sucks is that Hobart is charging 6 bucks to view a webcast of this game. No thanks,  Hobart...transmit your webcast to the half dozen or so that will pay to see it. Plenty of other good games to watch for free. Administration at Hobart should wise up and realize that charging for a webcast is NOT the way to go.



Geneseo State  at Nazareth  8:00 PM

The Blue Knights are the 2nd seed in this tournament and will take on the host Golden Flyers who are listed as the 7th seed. The Knights are undefeated at 4-0 and are led by a pair of transfers from Division II Dominican College Justin Ringen and John Decker who are both averaging over 20 ppg. Nazareth has one of the top scorers in the country leading the way in Mitch Ford who is scorching the nets for 27+ points per game. Ford is also the leading rebounder for the Golden Flyers, hauling down 12.6 rpg to complete his double-double per game.

Oddsmakers have favored the visiting Knights by a 5 point margin, and all indications are that this will be a down to the wire ballgame. I'll take the Knights to win by an 81-75 final score.

It's nice to see that Nazareth doesn't charge to view their webcast, as I'm watching the St John Fisher/RIT game that is taking place right now. So the Geneseo/Nazareth  that follows will be available for viewing also at no charge. Hobart should take lessons from Nazareth.

Big upset in the making here as the 8th seeded RIT Tigers lead the top seeded and #10 in the country, St John Fisher Cardinals by a 52-32 score with 14:18 left in the 2nd half. Don't think anyone saw that coming.     


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 07:28:49 PM
Brockport trying to fight back from a double digit deficit against Rochester. Down by 12 at 49-37 and 51-39, the Golden Eagles have pulled to within 3 at 55-52 with 5 monutes left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 07:30:49 PM
St John Fisher who trailed RIT by 20 points at 52-32 has regained the lead with a 27-6 run and are now ahead by a 59-58 score with under 5 minutes left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 07:34:32 PM
Brockport down by 1, at 58-57, with the ball, coming out of a time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 07:36:36 PM
Brockport misses a jumper, gets the offensive rebound, but turns it over. Rochester comes down and makes a jumper to go up by 3 at 60-57. Time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 07:49:31 PM
Golden Eagles have the ball stolen by Rochester, with 22 seconds left. Port has to foul and Rochester makes them both. This game is over.  Port goes coast to coast for a layup. to make it 62-59 and calls a timeout. Port fouls on the inbound and Rochester makes both free throws to close them out. Port misses another 3 pointer and I believe it's a final score of 65-59, Rochester.

 

St John Fisher also loses to the 8th seeded RIT Tigers by a 69-64 final score.

Brockport will meet St. John Fisher on Friday at 6 PM at Roberts Wesleyan.

Rochester will meet Rochester Tech at 8:00 PM in the semifinals at U of R
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 09:09:29 PM
Geneseo leads Nazareth 48-45 with 18 minutes to go in the 2nd half. Justin Ringen lead the Knights with 20 points. Once again no sign of John Decker  who missed the last Geneseo game as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2015, 09:27:14 PM
Nazareth leads Geneseo 67-66 with 8 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2015, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 02, 2015, 04:22:02 AM
Oswego will come in first place, and Brockport will certainly push the Lakers for top honors. Plattsburgh, Cortland and Buff State will round out the top 5, not necessarily in that order. That's as far as I can see in my crystal ball as it is still a little cloudy. Once I can see some rosters and what the recruits look like (on paper at least) and who imported some transfers (I see the Bengals have at least 2 incoming transfers) I'll be able to make a better 1 through 10 forecast.     

I based my "BEST" comment on your prediction from a few weeks ago (see above) that the Lakers would be #1 at the end of the season. That's why I said "from all that I've read" :o

Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
3. The best won't be in the Queen City this weekend, very good for sure, but the best won't be there until January 29th 2016 when the Cardinals roll into town. ;D

I hope that you are right about the "best" being located in the "Queen City" !!! ;)

Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Just a couple of things to my friend from Buffalo.
2. Plattsburgh State made the blueprint and holds the record for different players leading the team in scoring when they had 9 different players pull that off in the 2013-14 season. 4 different players in the first 4 games, 5 on the first 6. (We don't count exhibition games. Then again we rarely get a chance to have them. ::))

I'll take your word for that. Won't bother checking. However I should have added "this year" (for clarity) with regards to the "5 for 5" since the current season was my main topic of discussion! :)

Quote from: magicman on December 02, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
1. You must have taken a couple of word pills today. Haven't seen you so chatty in a while. Did you buy the generic kind at Walmart or were they the step up, brand name, variety at Target?  :o

Picked up "word" pills at "Matties" with my breakfast, while I read a write up in the local newspaper about my BENGALS. Got me fired up!! ;D

I do agree with you!. I sure do hope my BENGALS get an NCAA bid....by any means necessary!!!!!  Right  on!!! :D  ;) :)

GO BENGALS!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 03, 2015, 12:33:12 AM
Is it Friday yet?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2015, 02:39:52 AM
Geneseo defeats Nazareth 83-81

This game was as exciting as I thought it would be. I was close with my forecast of an 81-75 Geneseo victory. The game was even closer. The winner wasn't decided until the final seconds and it looked like the Golden Flyers had the W with a layup by Denzell Jackson that gave them an 81-80 lead with 8 seconds left. The Knights didn't panic though and quickly pushed the ball upcourt and took a time out with 5.2 seconds on the clock. The Knights needing to shoot in a hurry after the inbounds pass drew up a simple play. Get it to Justin Ringen and fire up a 3 pointer. Ringen got the inbounds pass from Charlie Zaepfel out beyond the arc, with his back to the basket. He turned and fired up a jumper with a defender right on him...nothing but net. Nazareth could only fling up a heave from half court that was off the mark.

Ringen and Mitch Ford both brought their A games tonight and the fans were the beneficiaries. Justin had 30 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, a block and a steal. Mitch, one of the most prolific scorers in the country had 29 points, 11 rebounds, an assist and a steal. Justin and Mitch were both 10x19 from the field. Justin did major damage from behind the arc where he nailed 7 of 8 attempts. Mitch was 8 of 10 from the foul line and 1x2 from long distance.

Plenty of others got in on the fun. The Knights got double figure scoring from Charlie Zaepfel with 15 points, 9 assists and 6 rebounds. Nick Fessenden had 13 points, 7 rebounds and 4 blocks. Kevin Crockett had 10 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists, while Connor Keenan had 9 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists.

For Nazareth, Denzell Jackson had 13 points and 5 rebounds. Brendan Wind had 12 points, 7 assists and 4 rebounds. Josh Gillard was 4x9 from long range to total 12 points.

This game was a closely contested affair from start to finish. Sure glad it was at Nazareth where I could watch it for free and not at Hobart where you had to pay to see a webcast.

Neither team ever had a double digit lead as Geneseo went up by 9 points in the early going at 15-6 after 4 minutes of play. Naz had a 5 point lead twice, once midway through the 2nd half at 65-60 and late in the 2nd half  at 76-71 with 4:15 left in the game. The rest of the time it was usually a 1 or 2 possession game. There were 4 ties and 17 lead changes in this game.

Naz now 3-3,  moves into the consolation bracket and will play Hobart College at Roberts Wesleyan at 8:00 PM on Friday night.

Geneseo remains undefeated at 5-0 and will play Roberts Wesleyan at the University of Rochester on Friday at 8:00 PM. Sad news is that Rochester like Hobart insists on charging hoops fans a $6.95 fee to watch their webcasts. Hopefully the games at Roberts Wesleyan will be accessed for free .

Already bummed out that the Championship game of this tournament will take place at the University of Rochester. Won't be watching that one online. :P

Also found out today that this will most likely be the final year of the Wendy's College Classic, at least in its current format. If if does come back at all, there will not be 8 schools in the tournament.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2015, 03:10:41 AM
Once again for my Bengal friend,

Plattsburgh's 9 different players leading the team in scoring several years ago was the blueprint. We came up with it, nice to see that you've considered it to be of such high value, that you're trying to copy it. Please let me know when you get there. ;D

We've only played three games this year. Eddie Correa led the team in game 1 with 15 points. Kyle Richardson led the team in game 2 with 36 points. Freshman Jonathan Patron came off the bench and led the team in game 3 with 18 points. Can you see where I'm going here?

And don't put words in my mouth...I never said the best was "located" in the Queen City.  I said the best won't be in the Queen City until January 29th when the Cardinals roll into town. (The striped team that resides there is pretty darn good though.)

Finally, even if the Cardinals aren't in first place or even if they were in last place, they are the BEST, at least as far as I'm concerned,   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2015, 04:03:35 AM
Rochester 65  Brockport 59

The Golden Eagles could have won this game but let it slip away when they allowed a 32-31 lead to turn into a 49-37 deficit over a 5 minute span in the 2nd half. Brockport went 2 for10 with 2 turnovers in that stretch and had to play catch up from that point on.They were still down by 10, at 55-45 with 6:46 to play, but slowly narrowed the gap until Olusola Adeniran made a 3 point play to bring them within a single point at 58-57.After the Yellowjackets turned the ball over on their next possession Brockport had a golden opportunity to take the lead. However, a missed shot followed by an offensive rebound went for naught as the Golden Eagles turned the ball over and gave the Yellowjackets the break they needed. This time Rochester made them pay and Jared Seltzer hit the big basket that would ultimately prove to be the game winner. Desparately needing to score with only 30 seconds remaining, Brockport would once again commit another turnover, effectively sealing the deal for Rochester.

Hamed Shamseldin was the high man for Port with 20 points and 5 rebounds. Clifton Lyerly had 15 points and 8 rebounds.

Rochester got 22 points from Sam Borst-Smith along with 5 assists and 4 rebounds. Jared Seltzer had 14 points and 8 rebounds.

Brockport falls to 2-1 and will meet St. John Fisher on Friday at 6 PM in a consolation game at Roberts Wesleyan.

Rochester is now 5-2 and will meet Rochester Tech at 8:00 PM on Friday in the semifinals at U of R       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2015, 04:33:52 AM
Updating the SUNYAC non-conference record of all games through December 2nd.

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents 25-19     (includes 2 games against non-DIII teams. Buff State has 1 win and 1 loss against 2 schools that are not members of the NCAA)


SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference NCAA DIII Teams     24-18  (Top 7 schools are 22-4. Bottom 3 schools are 2-14)                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                     

magicman's predictions  34-10 (77.2%)       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2015, 06:05:51 AM
Just so my friend from Buffalo knows what's on the line in Friday's game. The bolded teams are my selections in the D3 Men's National Pick Em League. Those first 4 picks were all correct on Wednesday night so I'm starting out 4-0. Impress upon those Bengals you cozy up to, that the magicman needs them to take care of business on Friday night. Failure to do so could result in some ugly forecasts down the road.  ???

Week 4
Wed December 2nd
Alfred St @ Penn College 6:00pm
Birmingham Southern @ LaGrange 7:30pm
Wittenberg @ Wabash 7:30pm
Augustana @ UW-Whitewater 8:00pm

Fri December 4th
Cortland St @ Buffalo St 7:30pm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 03, 2015, 10:37:22 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 03, 2015, 03:10:41 AM
Once again for my Bengal friend,

Plattsburgh's 9 different players leading the team in scoring several years ago was the blueprint. We came up with it, nice to see that you've considered it to be of such high value, that you're trying to copy it. Please let me know when you get there. ;D

We've only played three games this year. Eddie Correa led the team in game 1 with 15 points. Kyle Richardson led the team in game 2 with 36 points. Freshman Jonathan Patron came off the bench and led the team in game 3 with 18 points. Can you see where I'm going here?

And don't put words in my mouth...I never said the best was "located" in the Queen City.  I said the best won't be in the Queen City until January 29th when the Cardinals roll into town. (The striped team that resides there is pretty darn good though.)

Finally, even if the Cardinals aren't in first place or even if they were in last place, they are the BEST, at least as far as I'm concerned,   

+k Magic 1 ......+k
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 03, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 03, 2015, 06:05:51 AM
Just so my friend from Buffalo knows what's on the line in Friday's game. The bolded teams are my selections in the D3 Men's National Pick Em League. Those first 4 picks were all correct on Wednesday night so I'm starting out 4-0. Impress upon those Bengals you cozy up to, that the magicman needs them to take care of business on Friday night. Failure to do so could result in some ugly forecasts down the road.  ???

Week 4
Wed December 2nd
Alfred St @ Penn College 6:00pm
Birmingham Southern @ LaGrange 7:30pm
Wittenberg @ Wabash 7:30pm
Augustana @ UW-Whitewater 8:00pm

Fri December 4th
Cortland St @ Buffalo St 7:30pm

Trust me oh Magic 1......Bengal nation is on high alert for some dragons ( red in color) coming to western New York.  Truly the biggest test, to date, of the season. I know of 1 Bengals coach who is thinking about plastering flyers all around campus 1st thing in the morning !  I know "sick dude" huh??   Pray for him!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2015, 06:39:57 PM
In the name of the Father and of the Son ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 03, 2015, 06:59:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 03, 2015, 06:39:57 PM
In the name of the Father and of the Son ...

LMAO.  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2015, 12:01:32 AM
Its Friday AT  12:01 A.M.,  and the 1st day of SUNYAC league play. If that doesn't get you pumped, from Plattsburgh to Fredonia or Oneonta to Oswego,  then you aren't really a 'Yac fan!!


GO BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 03, 2015, 06:05:51 AM
Just so my friend from Buffalo knows what's on the line in Friday's game. The bolded teams are my selections in the D3 Men's National Pick Em League. Those first 4 picks were all correct on Wednesday night so I'm starting out 4-0. Impress upon those Bengals you cozy up to, that the magicman needs them to take care of business on Friday night. Failure to do so could result in some ugly forecasts down the road.  ???

Week 4
Wed December 2nd
Alfred St @ Penn College 6:00pm
Birmingham Southern @ LaGrange 7:30pm
Wittenberg @ Wabash 7:30pm
Augustana @ UW-Whitewater 8:00pm

Fri December 4th
Cortland St @ Buffalo St 7:30pm

"Ugly forecasts"?  Ooowwee, don't want anymore of those!. You are putting some pressure on my beloved Bengals Magic 1!!!. However I do feel that if the Bengals keep their turnovers under 10, assists over 20, keep Esterfaa off the 3 pt line, Lydon and Joseph off the glass and prevent Carter and Morales from quarterbacking the Red Dragons offense and my Bengals stay out of foul trouble......then Buff State may have a chance!

My goodness, I'm getting as bad as you. Almost 1 a.m. and I'm up posting on D3hoops.  I gotta stop hanging with you dude.  You are a bad influence........and I can't wait for 7:30!!!! ;)

Go Bengals!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 04:59:19 AM
My wife tells me I've been a bad influence on her for life. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 04, 2015, 11:01:29 AM
Magicman,
I have thoroughly enjoyed your posts the past 3 years. The time and effort you put into the SUNYAC Men's Basketball Conference is outstanding. I would race home to read your posts they were that good. I also enjoyed Bengalsrule's post as well.
The love you have for the Plattsburgh Cardinals is unconditional and they are lucky to have you.
But, this is the year of the Oneonta Red Dragon's and I will be representing them in some posts if you and Bengalsrule don't mind. Not that you guys need someone else representing the conference, you guys certainly do a fantastic job.
I'm a novice at these posts so please bare with me. I can't compare to your beautiful write-ups and concise details you give of all the games, but I will be making some predictions now that league play is starting up this weekend.
It should be an outstanding season with tons of surprises.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 04, 2015, 02:16:59 PM
Quick Predictions for tonight:

Buffalo State over Cortland- The Red Dragons do not recover from the loss to Ithaca. The Buffalo State Arena is a tough place for these young Red Dragons to open up the SUNYAC Season.

Oneonta all over Potsdam- The Red Dragons are coming off a huge win against Hartwick and will not have a let down especially at Home.

Plattsburgh too quick and athletic for New Paltz. New Paltz usually starts off with a zone so I hope Mr. Correa has his 3 point shot going.

Brockport over St John Fischer- Coach Dunne is a genius at making adjustments after the bad lose to Rochester.

Geneseo rolls past Robert Wesleyan in the Wendy's classic with or without John Decker.

Oswego takes care of business over Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2015, 02:39:23 PM
Well let me be the 1st to welcome you to the D3HOOPS boards. We definitely do enjoy SUNYAC hoops fans and , to the best of my knowledge, we have never had a Oneonta fan here ( I'll defer to some of the more "senior" posters here about past participants). There used to be a fan from New Paltz but he faded when they faded. Potsdam, Cortland, Oswego, Brockport and Geneseo all have supporters that come thru occassionally. And every now and then some "magic" dude may chime in about some birds from up north! Also.....

Quote from: All-Time on December 04, 2015, 02:16:59 PM
Quick Predictions for tonight:

Buffalo State over Cortland- The Red Dragons do not recover from the loss to Ithaca. The Buffalo State Arena is a tough place for these young Red Dragons to open up the SUNYAC Season.


....let me applaud you on what is undoubtedly a keen eye for a good team!! ;D. Although you may draw the wrath of Franelia or Jdex ( so beware).

  Plus k is in order! Hope to meet you 1 day if our 'Yac travels should cross paths.

Again welcome !!!!


GO BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 04:23:52 PM
All-time,

Fresh Blood.... Vampires like me that stay up all night, love fresh blood. Welcome aboard

Pay no attention to that Bengalsrule guy behind the curtain. He's full of sound and fury!!  ;D

Plus K.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 04:23:52 PM
All-time,

Fresh Blood.... Vampires like me that stay up all night, love fresh blood. Welcome aboard

Pay no attention to that Bengalsrule guy behind the curtain. He's full of sound and fury!!  ;D

Plus K.

I can't wait to see the rest of your predictions for the 'Yac kickoff tonight.  Having 2 prognosticators should make for some serious post game conversations!  Hope your predictions get up before halftime of the women's game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2015, 05:45:57 PM

Something to chew on  .....

Cortland MAY be minus B. Estarfaa and Z. Lydon. Both injured in earlier week slip at Ithaca. RDragons will need to shoot better than in three-quarters  of their contests thus far

From the poster who 10-plus years ago supplied the game-by-game 'YAC roundup for a few years .......those late hours are a thing of the past from sunny Florida. We yield to 'The Owl' for the most part -- the Magicman and his epic Cardinal replays!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 05:58:13 PM
All 10 teams in action today spread out over 6 games. SUNYAC play begins in earnest


Roberts Wesleyan  vs    Geneseo State    6:00 PM   Wendy's College Classic @ Univ of Rochester
The Redhawks will be a tough team to handle for the Knights and last year were beaten by them 75-63 in the Wendy's Classic. Both teams lost a lot of talent and perhaps the Knights have reloaded better than the Redhawks. The point spread on this game is only a 3 point margin in favor of the Knights. I'll go with them to pull out a 77-71 victory.

St. John Fisher   vs  Brockport State   6:00 PM  Wendy's College Classic @ Roberts Wesleyan

Much as I'd like to see Brockport take down these Cardinals I think that it's a tall order. The oddsmakers have made Fisher a 9 point favorite and they will probably win this game. But I want to root for the Golden Eagles even though Fisher's big man Keegan Ryan is from my hometown, so I'm going with my heart instead of my head and picking Brockport to pull off the upset by a 73-70 final score
   
Plattsburgh State    at    New Paltz State    7:30 PM
   
Cortland State   at     Buffalo State        7:30 PM
   
Potsdam State   at     Oneonta State        7:30 PM
   
Oswego State   at     Fredonia State        7:30 PM

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
The predictions for the first conference games of the year.

Plattsburgh State    at    New Paltz State    7:30 PM

The Cardinals are coming off a solid 77-65 win over St. Lawrence. The Saints beat another Plattsburgh opponent that we will face on 12-12, the Middlebury Panthers, by a 63-57 score. And Middlebury defeated New Paltz by an 80-63 score, at the Hawk Center, back on November 24th. Are you following this? The Hawks have struggled after opening the season with a win over local rival Vassar College and have dropped 4 straight. The Cardinals laid an egg when they invaded Hawk Center last year as New Paltz put a 69-55 licking on them to split the season series. The Cardinals have made this a one-sided series however, over the past 9 years as they hold a commanding 17-3 record against the Hawks. The oddsmakers haven't let that fact go unnoticed either, as they have made the Cardinals an 8 point favorite. Hopefully, the Cardinals don't take the court with bus legs. Cards win this one, 82-71.       
   
Cortland State   at     Buffalo State        7:30 PM

This is the featured SUNYAC Game of the Week.

The Red Dragons are coming off a loss to their local rival, Ithaca, and now may be shorthanded as they invade the Queen City. The Bengals may also be without top scorer, Lovell Smith who hasn't played since the season opener. Both teams should be playoff bound this year but have bigger goals in mind than just making the SUNYAC playoffs. The Bengals already have solid home court wins this year over Hobart and Nazareth. They own a 6-5 record against Cortland over the past 5 years and are 5-1 at home during that stretch. Cortland is 3-1 but has yet to win against a team with a winning record. Of course they have only played one team with a winning record...Ithaca. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a slim 3 point home favorite but i thin they will win by a few more than that. Buffalo State takes this one by an 87-80 final score.   
   
Potsdam State   at     Oneonta State        7:30 PM

The Bears are still winless on the season and their luck won't get any better tonight when they travel to Oneonta. These Red Dragons are favored by a double digit 19 point margin, the biggest spread of the night. Oneonta almost took down Franklin and Marshall on the road, and beat their local rival Hartwick pretty handily the other night. They will win pretty handily tonight as well. Oneonta 86 Potsdam 62.
   
Oswego State   at     Fredonia State        7:30 PM

This game is another mismatch with one of the top teams in the conference taking on one of the lower ranked teams in the league. The oddsmakers have made Oswego a double digit 14 point favorite and I think they win by more than that. Fredonia finally got a win the other night against Alfred but lightning doesn't strike twice, at least not that quickly. Oswego, undefeated at 6-0, has a tendency to play down to their opponent at times, and the MOV could be less than it should be. Still I see the Lakers winning this one by a 76-59 final score   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 07:10:49 PM
Brockport leading St John Fisher 38-26 with 15:44 remaining in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 07:30:50 PM
Brockport just putting a whipping on St John Fisher. They now lead 62-37 with 7:40 to play in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Geneseo falls to Roberts Wesleyan  85-82 after leading by a 78-69 score with 3:20 left to play. Knights get outscored 10-0 as the Redhawks forge into a 79-78 advantage. Justin Ringen scores to put Geneseo back in front but the Redhawks close out the Knights with a 6-2 run to end up on top. Tough loss for the Knights and one they will have 2nd thoughts about for a while.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Geneseo falls to Roberts Wesleyan  85-82 after leading by a 78-69 score with 3:20 left to play. Knights get outscored 10-0 as the Redhawks forge into a 79-78 advantage. Justin Ringen scores to put Geneseo back in front but the Redhawks close out the Knights with a 6-2 run to end up on top. Tough loss for the Knights and one they will have 2nd thoughts about for a while.   

That lead with 3:20 was about the point in the game I walked in the door at the Palestra. #justsayin
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:33:05 PM
Time for the annual SUNYAC forecast of the Regular Season final standings.

1.   Brockport State

2.   Buffalo State

3.   Oswego State

4.   Geneseo State

5.   Plattsburgh State

6.  Cortland State

7.  Oneonta State

8.  New Paltz State

9.  Fredonia State

10. Potsdam State

I can see any one of the top four teams winning the regular season crown. It will come down to injuries, and which team the basketball gods decide to favor. The next 4 teams will duke it out for the final 2 playoff spots. I really think when it's all said and done it will be Plattsburgh and Cortland claiming those 2 spots but if Oneonta     gets in there I wouldn't consider it an upset. If New Paltz gets a playoff spot...well that I believe would be an upset. The tiebreakers may come into play this year to determine the playoff teams. As usual the teams that protect their house, sweep the bottom 2 teams and go 5 of 6 against the bottom 3 teams, will have a leg up on any team that doesn't follow that formula.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN  and good luck to all the participants on all the teams. Hope no one suffers a serious injury, that we get at least 2 NCAA bids (3 would be even better like 2 years ago) and that Plattsburgh State gets one of them. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Geneseo falls to Roberts Wesleyan  85-82 after leading by a 78-69 score with 3:20 left to play. Knights get outscored 10-0 as the Redhawks forge into a 79-78 advantage. Justin Ringen scores to put Geneseo back in front but the Redhawks close out the Knights with a 6-2 run to end up on top. Tough loss for the Knights and one they will have 2nd thoughts about for a while.   

That lead with 3:20 was about the point in the game I walked in the door at the Palestra. #justsayin

So it's official then... I can now call you the SUNYAC JINX. ???   :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2015, 08:35:51 PM
Cortland heading Buffalo St. 37-32 at the break ......ragged, ragged we say. Both teams under 40 percent from the field in turnover-filled fray. Frosh guard Zay Cotton .....Zay Cotton?? ....paces RDragons with 10 points. Cotton debuts. Just what Corts need, another body. Soph newcomer D. Hampton figures in this contest as well. B. Estarfaa in action. No Z. Lydon. D. Grayer's nine points lead Bengals
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:53:52 PM
Final score...Brockport State 67  St. John Fisher 50

The Golden Eagles led this game from start to finish and were up by double digits at halftime. The 2nd half was more of the same and Port was never really threatened. I expected a much closer game and am sure I wasn't alone on that regard. Video feed from Robert Wesleyan was free and of decent quality but there was no announcer or score on screen. Better then the Geneseo game however which was played at Rochester and you had to pay 7 bucks to see it. I watched the free game. ;) Too bad that the powers to be at Rochester, had to be such grinches for the final Wendy's Classic and charge the public to watch their webcasts. :P  No one else hosting a Wendy's Classic game tried to fleece money from us. 8-) 

Nice win by the Golden Eagles to get back on the winning track. I think it just may knock St. John Fisher right out of the Top 25. The loss to RIT would have seen them tumble about 10 spots or so, but back to back losses and this one by a healthy margin, spells trouble in River City for the Cardinals. Still time to right the ship however.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats New Paltz 81-71.

I'm a little ticked off at Zack Coleman right now. I predicted an 82-71 Plattsburgh victory. I would have gotten that score right on the button except Mr.Coleman missed a free throw with 21 seconds left in the game. I can be  too mad however, because it was the front end of a 1&1. If he makes that 1st one and then makes the next one I still miss my perfect prediction by a point. He could have made then missed...I would have been alright with that. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 09:32:47 PM
Nico McLean with a 3 point bomb to tie Cortland at 76 with 2.5 seconds left. Cortland takes a time out but turns it over with .2 seconds left. Buff State can't get anything on the inbounds pass and we head to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2015, 09:35:34 PM
Cortland and Buffalo St. play up to their roles in second half ..........Bengals always looking up in the second period. Never lead. Rebounding keeps Buff St. alive. To OT, M. Henry with 18 pts, 9 rebs for BS. B. Estarfaa 17 pts for Corts ......
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 09:35:51 PM
Oswego State barely defeats Fredonia and needs overtime to do it by a 67-62 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 09:41:53 PM
Down to the wire for the 2nd time in Buffalo. Tied at 81, 26 seconds to go and the Bengals with the ball coming out of a timeout.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2015, 09:44:27 PM

N. McLean gives Buff St. the lead at 0:08 .......Cortland's own JP Reagan wins it at 0:01 with 3 pointer ....Cortland 84, BS 83 OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 09:45:14 PM
A jumper by Nico McLean gives the Bengals the lead with 8 seconds to go but Cortland's JP Reagan buries the 3 pointer with 1 second left on the clock to make  winners out of the Red Dragons, 84-83.
Hell of a finish...make that 2 finishes and I'm sure my friend jdex would concur. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 04, 2015, 09:59:52 PM
What a crazy night of basketball in the SUNYAC
I have to hand it to The Red Dragons of Cortland as they went into the Buffalo State Sports arena and took down the Bengals in a fantastic finish.
Oswego needs overtime to beat Fredonia, can someone give Brian Sortino some help. This kid does it all for Oswego.
Plattsburgh and Kyle Richardson prevail in the 2nd half against New Paltz and get the win.
Brockport beating up St John Fisher, they will definitely be out of the top 25.
Oneonta taking care of business against Potsdam. Jackson Zuvic has that skip in his step and is playing like his freshman year when he should have won ROY.
Geneseo loses a close one at the end to Roberts Wesleyan.
Can't wait until tomorrows games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 04, 2015, 10:01:41 PM
Was beginning to wonder about this pair at halftime. Neither looked the part of a contendahhhh .....

Came to life in a whiz of a second half. Cortland grabs the lead in the opening period 37-32 and widens the gap to double digits. M. Henry leads the Bengals back. Finally pull even at 66 with 3:33 left in reg. Twas shortlived. B. Estarfaa immediately lands a trey from the left corner. Corts stretch the lead to 74-67. RDragons still up 76-71 on S. Martinez bucket with less than a minute left. Back charge the Buffs with J. Glover steal leading to N. McLean's game-knotting long-range three, his first trey in six attempts. To OT at 76-76

Overtime sees R. Freeman provide BS with 79-76 lead at 3:22. JP Reagan layup and accompanying FT ties it quickly. CSt ahead 81-79 at 1:22 on G. Carter acrobatic deuce. L. Moise returns with BS bucket at 1:03. Cortland misses from the field and BS has the ball at 0:26. Timeout ensues. N. McLean hoop in the paint at 0:08 sends Bengals to the fore. Reagan nails his game-winning three from the right wing at 0:01.

Five players from each side in double figures in points. Estarfaa 17 over 44' leads Cortland. C. Joseph nets 12 in 35', Reagan 11 (7 rebs) in 16', D. Hampton 10 (9 rebs) in 23' and newcomer Z. Cotton 10 (4x5fg) in the opening half. Henry with 18 (11 rebs) in 31' for BS before fouling out in OT. McLean 17 (6 assts, 4 stls) in 42', L. Smith 12 in 35', R. Freeman 12, D. Grayer 12
Cortland 32x72fg, 13x29 3s, 7x12ft, 48 rebs, 18 turnovers (10 by half). Bengals go 33x77fg, 8x24 3s, 9x17ft, 47 rebs, 13 turnovers (9 by half)

CSt, 4-1, in Saturday matinee at Fredonia which played regarded Oswego tough on Friday. Bengals 3-2 and host Oswego Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2015, 10:12:27 PM
Oneonta defeats Potsdam by a final score of 87-58.

That's pretty close to the prediction I had of an 86-62 Red Dragon win. Oneonta held up their end of the bargain  but the Bears couldn't quite get into the 60's. Only missed the total by 3 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 04, 2015, 10:35:51 PM
Magicman,

+k for all the great info on this board. I don't post much because basketball isn't really my best area of knowledge but coming here gets me up to speed fast!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2015, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Geneseo falls to Roberts Wesleyan  85-82 after leading by a 78-69 score with 3:20 left to play. Knights get outscored 10-0 as the Redhawks forge into a 79-78 advantage. Justin Ringen scores to put Geneseo back in front but the Redhawks close out the Knights with a 6-2 run to end up on top. Tough loss for the Knights and one they will have 2nd thoughts about for a while.   

That lead with 3:20 was about the point in the game I walked in the door at the Palestra. #justsayin

So it's official then... I can now call you the SUNYAC JINX. ???   :D

Whatever makes you feel better. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2015, 11:09:15 PM
Damn.  This 1 hurt bad. I mean hurts REALLY bad!!   My BENGALS snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Early this morning, around 12;56 a.m.,  I stated that Buff State has to do certain things IF they had a chance to win.   Now that I take a look at that post I can see that we didnt get it done....

Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2015, 12:56:28 AM
"Ugly forecasts"?  Ooowwee, don't want anymore of those!. You are putting some pressure on my beloved Bengals Magic 1!!!. However I do feel that if the Bengals keep their turnovers under 10 (WE FAILED AT THAT - 13 TURNOVERS), assists over 20 (WE HAD 16 - FAILED ON THAT), keep Esterfaa off the 3 pt line (ESTERFAA MADE 5 BASKETS...ALL 3'S - FAILED MISERABLY ON THAT), Lydon and Joseph off the glass (LYDON DIDNT PLAY, JOSEPH 4 BOARDS, BUT RED DRAGONS OUT REBOUND BENGALS 48-47) and prevent Carter and Morales from quarterbacking the Red Dragons offense ( 4 ASSISTS BETWEEN THEM - SUCCESS...I GUESS :()and my Bengals stay out of foul trouble (LEADING REBOUNDER AND SCORER, MIKE HENRY FOULS OUT)......then Buff State may have a chance!

My goodness, I'm getting as bad as you. Almost 1 a.m. and I'm up posting on D3hoops.  I gotta stop hanging with you dude.  You are a bad influence........and I can't wait for 7:30!!!! ;)

Go Bengals!!!

After all was said and done, we just didn't get the job done. I gotta admit, having a birds-eye view of Reagan's  game winner (2 for 2 from beyond the arc), I had that sinking feeling when the ball left his hands. I was hoping that it was just nerves...it wasn't.

I am encouraged by the fact that after being outscored by 5 in the first half we returned the favor in the 2nd half. Knowing that shooting 9/17 from the free throw line is unacceptable, especially had we made just 1 more, gives these boys some renewed hope. 10/17 and we are in double o/t. 11/17 and I'm writing a different story. Down by 7 with 2:29 left, my BENGALS could have mailed it in. But  they didn't. And that is probably 1 of the more encouraging things of the day. Reigning SUNYAC - POW Kevin Marmelejos had 3 molars pulled Weds. and just wasn't the same tonight, going 1/4 and 0/3 from beyond the arc (I understand). he'll be better tomorrow. But at the end, wqhen all was said and done,  Cortland was the better team tonight...plain and simple. Kudos to CSU.

The beautiful thing about all of this is that in less than 17 hours we get a shot at the #$25 ranked team in the nation,, Oswego. Nothing can replace the sick feeling that many BENGAL faithful had tonight (over 1,200 in attendance...including my wife :)). I gotta believe in my heart of hearts...tomorrow the sun will rise, and my BENGALS get another chance to prove that they belong in the upper tier of the 'Yac (thanks magicman for that #2 projection). Gonna take the wife out now, to Walmart buy a t.v. that she wants. Got to do something to get this taste out of my mouth. And I dont drink.

This s--t hurts :'( :'(. Better days are ahead!! ;) ;)

GO BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 01:13:11 AM
Final scores of all the day's action in one post. What a day it was. I'm exhausted from just watching.

Roberts Wesleyan 85   Geneseo State 82          I picked the Knight to win by a 77-71 score. If you're up by 9 points with 3:20 to go you should win the game. No excuses, but I should be putting this one in my win column.

Brockport State 67  St. John Fischer 50  I had the Golden Eagles winning by a 73-70 score. Port was close to my prediction but Fisher would still need to be playing to hit their projected score. Never expected the Beast from the East (Region that is) to be so underwhelming.

Plattsburgh State 81 New Paltz State 71   I almost nailed this one missing by a single point with my 82-71 forecast. Just glad my best prediction was for my favorite team. ;D

Cortland State 84  Buffalo State 83    Sorry to see someone lose this game. Struggles throughout the game by both teams...not 1 but 2 exciting finishes. I picked the Bengals to win in their house, by an 87-80 final score. Did anybody notice that my total was exactly the total of the final score. 167 big ones. Yeah, I know, I needed overtime to get it...so what! 

Oneonta State 87  Potsdam State 58   Oneonta continues to have a potent offense as they follow up their 105 point output against Hartwick with 87 points against the Bears. Had a fairly accurate forecast with my 86-62 final.

Oswego State 67  Fredonia State 62     November wasn't  a good month for the Blue Devils but ever since the calendar turned the page they have played like a different team. Maybe Coach Seymour is finally getting through as they get a good win followed by an almost bigger win. Need to change the almosts into reality though. I took Oswego by a 76-59 final score. They couldn't get to 76 even with overtime. I said that the Lakers have a tendency to play down to their opponents. That certainly was the case again tonight. They let St. Lawrence hang around and the Saints played them tough right to the end. Then Morrisville State had a chance to win in regulation but missed a 3 pointer at the buzzer. Fredonia actually had the ball for a final shot in regulation but turned it over and they went to overtime. The depth that I thought Oswego had at the start of the season has found it's way to Oneonta (Ian Shupp 10 points Friday night, 6.5 ppg, ) and Cortland  (Justin Cooper, 8.4 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 17.4 minutes per game). Lakers living on the edge.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 02:30:57 AM
Bengalsrule talking about the tough loss tonight by Buffalo State (and I can sympathize with him) brings me to another tough loss on Friday that didn't happen on a basketball court.

The Oneonta State Men's Soccer Team played in the Final Four today against the Amherst Lord Jeffs. It was a game that couldn't be settled after regulation and 2 overtime periods since neither team could get one past the other team's goalkeeper. So to determine a winner of this National Semifinal game they had to resort to penalty kicks and the Red Dragons fell behind when they missed their first 2 attempts while Amherst made their first 2 attempts. Oneonta then made their 3rd shot and so did the Lord Jeffs. The Red Dragons made their 4th shot, Amherst missed and Oneonta made their 5th shot making the score 3-3. Amherst then put their 5th shot in the back of the net to walk off with the win, 4-3 on penalty kicks, and advance to the Championship game.

Tough, tough loss for the Red Dragons who lost for the 3rd time in the semifinals in the past 5 years. I was hoping this year might be their year.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 02:47:09 AM
Updating the SUNYAC non-conference record of all games through December 4th.

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents 26-20     (includes 3 games against non-DIII teams. Buff State has 1 win and 1 loss against 2 schools that are not members of the NCAA, Geneseo has 1 loss against Roberts Wesleyan that won't count )


SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference NCAA DIII Teams     25-18  (Top 7 schools are 23-4. Bottom 3 schools are 2-14)                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                     

magicman's predictions all games (includes conference games)    38-12 (76.0%)
SUNYAC games         3-1     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 06:48:21 AM
Plattsburgh State 81 New Platz 71

Plattsburgh State was the beneficiary of another monstrous night from forward/guard Kyle Richardson who had his 3rd straight double-double this time with 30 points and 15 rebounds. Kyle also had 3 blocks, 2 steals and 1 assist in 36 minutes of court time. He was 12x17 from the field, 2x4 from long distance, and 4x7 from the line.

The start of the game against New Paltz was a repetition of every game the Cardinals have played this year. If the Cards were a race horse they'd be dead last going into the first turn. Once again they fell behind by double digits less than 4 minutes into the game as the Hawks jumped out to a 12-2 lead. They slowly began to chip away at the lead, and managed to narrow the gap to 4 points by the break, thanks to 15 points by Richardson.

The 2nd half opened with the Cards Ed Correa nailing a 3 pointer 15 seconds into the period. Another 3 pointer by Richardson drew the Plattsburgh men even for the first time all night at 43 all, with 16:38 left in the half. Two minutes later a layup by the Cards Jon Patron and a triple by sophomore Eli Bryant gave the Cards their first lead of the night at 48-47. Richardson added a layup and freshman Isaiah Johnson hit a jumper to extend the margin to 5 points. Still up by 5, with 10 minutes to go the Cards misfired on 5 straight possessions while the Hawks hit a pair of bombs to retake the lead at 59-58 with 6:51 remaining. Still down 62-60 with under 5 minutes to play Eli Bryant hit his third 3 pointer to give the Cards the lead once again. Richardson followed with another layup and after the Hawks' Nick Paquette answered with a drive to the hoop, Zach Coleman hit a triple to make it a 4 point Plattsburgh lead. A jumper by the Hawks' Brandon Guest cut the lead in half but Bryant was there once more with another 3 pointer to make it 71-66 with just under 2 minutes left. The Hawks missed on their end and Richardson grabbed the defensive rebound. He then gets an offensive rebound and a tipin to build the margin to 7. When the Hawks missed again the Cards fast break led by a Bryant pass to Richardson was the icing on the cake. The Hawks down by 9 with under a minute started to foul and Plattsburgh would hit 6 of 7 down the stretch. It was that missed free throw by Mr. Coleman that kept me from a perfect prediction and made the final 81-71. He will hear about that in practice this coming week. You can bank on that.

In addition to Kyle Richardson's double-double game honors of 30 points and 18 boards, the Cards got a breakout game from Eli Bryant. Serving as the backup point guard and also as the 2 guard he had his best game in a Cardinal uniform. He was 4x5 from long range and 4x4 from the line to total 16 points. He also had 5 assists and 4 rebounds in 24 minutes. Starting point guard, Zack Coleman, had 9 points (2x3 fg, 1x1 3's, 4x6 ft) 6 assists and 3 rebounds. Freshman Jon Patron came off the bench to provide 9 points and 8 rebounds and another first year player, Isaiah Johnson added 8 points and 2 rebounds in 14 minutes. Still a third newcomer, freshman Brandon Johnson, had 3 steals, 2 assists and a block in just 10 minutes of court time.

Plattsburgh won the rebounding battle 48 to 36 and had 15 turnovers to 16 for the Hawks. The teams were nearly equal with their shooting percentages. The Cards were 28x67 (41.8%) from the field, 8x24 (33.3%) from behind the arc, and 17x25 (68%) from the line. New Paltz was 26x62 (41.9%) from the field, 7x24 (29.2%) from long distance, and 12x22 (54.5%) from the stripe.

New Paltz was led by Keegan Donovan with 22 points (7x14 fg, 1x5 3's, 7x9 ft) 6 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Nick Paquette had 12 points off the bench in 26 minutes. RJ Rosa had 10 points, 3 rebounds and 3 steals.

The Hawks fall to 1-5 (0-1 YAC) and will host Potsdam State tomorrow at 4:00 PM

Plattsburgh is now 3-1 (1-0 YAC) and will travel to Oneonta to take on the Red Dragons at 4:00 PM tomorrow.       

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 07:16:41 AM
You would think that a night's work of 30 points and 18 rebounds along with an earlier game of another double-double might get that player a SUNYAC Player of the Week award. But for Kyle Richardson his big game last night to lead all the SUNYAC players might not be enough. On Tuesday he put up 15 points  and 12 rebounds against St. Lawrence in a 77-65 Cardinal victory and factor that with Friday night's output and that should get you some League recognition. Cards are 2-0 in those 2 games. 

Last week his 36 point, 15 rebound effort against Skidmore failed to gain him Player of the Week honors, when Buff State's Kevin Marmolejos went off for 32 points against Hobart, by nailing a school record, 10 three pointers in 14 attempts. I thought both of those games were award worthy.

This week he'll be up against  Geneseo's Justin Ringen, who has put up back to back games of 30 points on Wednesday and Friday against Nazareth and Roberts Wesleyan. Knights went 1-1 in those 2 games but Justin hit a game winning 3 pointer with a guy right on him to beat Nazareth in the first round of the Wendy's Classic.

Justin's stats: 60 pts, 12 reb, 8 assists, 1 steal, 1 block. 21x37 fg, 9x12 3's, 9x10 ft. 72 minutes out of 80.

Kyle's stat's : 45 pts, 30 reb, 3 assists, 4 steals, 4 blocks. 16x30 fg, 2x7 3's, 11x16 ft. 74 minutes out of 80.

Justin has 15 more points than Kyle. Kyle has 18 more rebounds than Justin. Justin leads in assists, while Kyle leads in steals and blocks. Both players have 1 more game  today so that may be the tiebreaker. As  for me, as it stands right now, I vote them as co-players of the week. Both of these outstanding performances deserve recognition.

I hope Fran Elia reads this and brings it to the attention of the SUNYAC office. The person or persons who make the decision on who gets these weekly awards, for once, could name a Co-Player of the Week, based on 2 outstanding performances. (maybe it's happened before but I can't recall when) It's tough to have, maybe  the best week of your career, which may be better than half of the weekly winners, throughout the course of the season, and get nothing for it because someone else also had the best week of their career. Just saying. If anyone else cares to comment on this, please do. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 05, 2015, 11:11:18 AM
Magicman....when do you get some rest?  I get exhausted just reading your posts!
That's correct....I'm OLDER ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2015, 11:56:40 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2015, 02:30:57 AM
Bengalsrule talking about the tough loss tonight by Buffalo State (and I can sympathize with him) brings me to another tough loss on Friday that didn't happen on a basketball court.

The Oneonta State Men's Soccer Team played in the Final Four today against the Amherst Lord Jeffs. It was a game that couldn't be settled after regulation and 2 overtime periods since neither team could get one past the other team's goalkeeper. So to determine a winner of this National Semifinal game they had to resort to penalty kicks and the Red Dragons fell behind when they missed their first 2 attempts while Amherst made their first 2 attempts. Oneonta then made their 3rd shot and so did the Lord Jeffs. The Red Dragons made their 4th shot, Amherst missed and Oneonta made their 5th shot making the score 3-3. Amherst then put their 5th shot in the back of the net to walk off with the win, 4-3 on penalty kicks, and advance to the Championship game.

Tough, tough loss for the Red Dragons who lost for the 3rd time in the semifinals in the past 5 years. I was hoping this year might be their year.     

Darn who would have thought that I would be cursing "Red Dragons" in 1 moment and praising "Red Dragons" in another. I too want to join Magic in saluting the ONEONTA Red Dragons for a job well done. I remember my BENGALS "Sweet 16" run of 2011. The most exciting time I've ever had  with college ball (any type of college ball). I can only imagine the ride that the Red Dragons and the Oneonta faithful have had over the past 3/4 weeks! 1 game away from the Chip is quite the accomplishment. Kudos to Oneonta. 

All-time" are you catching any of this?

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 12:31:35 PM
Six games on tap today in the YAC with 4 more conference tilts taking place.

Rochester Tech  vs Geneseo State    3:00 PM   Wendy's College Classic @ University of Rochester

The battle for 3rd place in  the final Wendy's Tournament should probably have been a different matchup. Nobody saw the RIT the 8th seed beating the top seeded St John Fisher Cardinals. And Geneseo should probably have won yesterday's game against Roberts Wesleyan. But that's Division III basketball and this is the matchup we have. RIT has a 3-3 record and has played some decent teams including 2 ranked schools and have gone 1-1 against them (loss to #24 Brooklyn College win over #10 Fisher) The oddsmakers have made Geneseo a 7 point favorite. I think the Knights will win this game by a score of 83-73 and the MOV may be larger than than.     

Brockport State  vs  Hobart                  3:00 Pm  Wendy's  College Classic @ St. John Fisher

The battle for 5th place in Wendy 's tournament should be a pretty good game. Hobart is a young team as they have been starting 2 freshman and with first year players you never know what you're going to get...especially on the defensive end. They also have 2 other freshman in their main 7 man rotation. So 4 of the top 7 players are in their first season of college ball. They have 2 solid wins over Scranton and Rochester yet dropped a 20 point decision to Buff State. Brockport lost to Rochester just the other day so the oddsmakers see that and have made the Statesmen a 6 point favorite. I'm going to buck that trend because I think Brockport is better than Rochester and would beat then more often than not and I like the experience that the Golden Eagles bring to this matchup. Port beat Hobart last year in this tournament and I think last year's Hobart team was better than this year's version. I think this year's Brockport team is better than last years version. I'm taking Brockport here by an 84-76 final score.   
   
Potsdam State  @  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

Potsdam is a double digit underdog in this game and the Hawks can't lose a 2nd game in a row in their house especially to a team that has yet to post a win. The point spread is 12 points and the Bears will be lucky to keep it that close. Bears struggle to put 60 points on the board. Hawks averaging around 72. New Paltz wins 74-60.
   
Cortland State  @  Fredonia State        4:00 PM

Cortland should win this game by a comfortable margin. They should have beaten Utica College by a comfortable margin as well but were playing catch up most of the game and luckily caught them. Utica is 2-4 and the 2 teams they beat have a combined record of 1-10. Fredonia has a better win  over Alfred and their overtime loss to Oswego than anything Utica has done. So the Red Dragons better not get complacent here just because they walked out of the Sports Arena yesterday with a last second win, when it looked like they were goners. The Blue Devils are getting better and they are hungry. Hanging with the Lakers can only build confidence levels for all the players. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons an 11 point favorite. Ten days ago that spread would have been 20 points. I'm taking Cortland because they have too much talent for the Blue Devils, but Coach Spanbauer better crack the whip and keep this team focused. Cortland wins this one 82-69.   
   
Oswego State  @  Buffalo State                4:00 PM Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Lakers exhaled deeply as they walked out of the Steele Hall Fieldhouse last night around 9:45 PM. They breathed in that clean Fredonia air and knew that they had escaped a trap game. But they might have been walking from the proverbial frying pan into the fire. Some mighty angry Bengal tigers are waiting for them a short distance down the highway. Normally the past few years, when the Lakers and their travel partner, Cortland, made the trip to Western New York they had the benefit of playing one of the YAC's lightweights, in Fredonia, before or after facing the Bengals. And even then trying to win both of those road games proved to be an arduous task. In fact the Lakers have to go back to the Chad Burridge years to make that a 2-0 road trip and Cortland has only went 2-0 once in the past 9 years. Today the Lakers are coming off a tough overtime game  and even though Buffalo State also had to play an extra session the Bengals got to sleep in their own beds last night and will be looking, more than ever, to protect their house. The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 2 point road favorite but I think Buffalo State will bounce back and knock Oswego from the unbeaten ranks. I see a final score of  Buff State 78 Oswego 74.       
   
Plattsburgh State    @  Oneonta State        4:00 PM Co-Featured Game of the Day

These two teams went at it tooth and nail last year with the Red Dragons beating the Cardinals in Plattsburgh on a Frankie Kelly drive to the basket that broke a 92-92 game with 2 seconds left on the clock. Zach Mager then stole the inbounds pass to close out the Cards. Mager had 31 points and Kelly had 18 points with 10 assists. Then the Cards  returned that favor down in Oneonta when they came from 4 points down with 43 seconds to go and squeezed out a 74-71 win. Both teams lost a lot of talent through graduation, notably Mager, Kelly,and Kareem Williams for Oneonta while the Cardinals graduated 5 players that were starters for all or many games last year. However, both teams had some nice players waiting in the wings for their chance to shine. I have to give the edge to Oneonta here in terms of experienced players as they field a team of starters that all got ample minutes last year. Plattsburgh is relying more on several first year players that are getting big minutes in the rotation. Both teams  come into this contest with identical 3-1 records and both are 1-0 in the conference. The winner will have a leg up on a playoff spot. Statistically the odds of going 2-0 on this road trip, like the 2 trips to the western part of the state, are not favorable for the visitors. Yet the oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a very slim 1 point favorite. I'm putting my heart out there on my sleeve again because my head says that the Red Dragons will win this battle today. They had an easy game yesterday and the entire lineup got a chance to play some meaningful minutes. No starter played more than 25 minutes and most only saw 20 -22 minutes of court time. Usually 4 starters average around 30 minutes or more. Plattsburgh had 3 of their main starters play 32 to 36 minutes yesterday. The one variable that I know nothing about is the absence of Oneonta's Mikey McElroy yesterday against Potsdam. He's an All Conference quality player and if he's missing that would be a blow to the Red Dragons. So despite all the warning signs that tell me to pick the Red Dragons and the cloudiness of my crystal ball that won't reveal the winner, I'm taking the Cardinals to pull out a tight 81-77 road win.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2015, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2015, 07:16:41 AM
I hope Fran Elia reads this and brings it to the attention of the SUNYAC office. The person or persons who make the decision on who gets these weekly awards, for once, could name a Co-Player of the Week, based on 2 outstanding performances. (maybe it's happened before but I can't recall when) It's tough to have, maybe  the best week of your career, which may be better than half of the weekly winners, throughout the course of the season, and get nothing for it because someone else also had the best week of their career. Just saying. If anyone else cares to comment on this, please do.

I agree  with the Magicman about Co-P.O.W. in SUNYAC.  With probably 150 + athletes playing week in and week out in the 'Yac, you are bound to have multiple "big game" performances by mulitple "big game performers", week in and week out. With some of the examples that my good friend from the north has already given, I couldn't agree more. Methinks that Fran will get the message out to those who make those decisions. Good point Magicman!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2015, 12:31:35 PM
Six games on tap today in the YAC with 4 more conference tilts taking place.
   
Oswego State  @  Buffalo State                4:00 PM Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Lakers exhaled deeply as they walked out of the Steele Hall Fieldhouse last night around 9:45 PM. They breathed in that clean Fredonia air and knew that they had escaped a trap game. But they might have been walking from the proverbial frying pan into the fire. Some mighty angry Bengal tigers are waiting for them a short distance down the highway. Normally the past few years, when the Lakers and their travel partner, Cortland, made the trip to Western New York they had the benefit of playing one of the YAC's lightweights, in Fredonia, before or after facing the Bengals. And even then trying to win both of those road games proved to be an arduous task. In fact the Lakers have to go back to the Chad Burridge years to make that a 2-0 road trip and Cortland has only went 2-0 once in the past 9 years. Today the Lakers are coming off a tough overtime game  and even though Buffalo State also had to play an extra session the Bengals got to sleep in their own beds last night and will be looking, more than ever, to protect their house. The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 2 point road favorite but I think Buffalo State will bounce back and knock Oswego from the unbeaten ranks. I see a final score of  Buff State 78 Oswego 74.                  

Magicman....did I ever tell you how much I respect your predictions? ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 05, 2015, 02:04:12 PM
I agree with all magicman's predictions this afternoon except the Oneonta Red Dragons will pull this one out at home.
They are battle tested tough and this Senior laden team will pull out the victory. Look out for Lawrence Coleman to have a monster game.
I heard Mike McElroy has a bruised thigh and will sit this one out.
Enjoy the games.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 05, 2015, 03:02:02 PM
Bengalsrule and Magicman thanks for the high praise of the Oneonta Red Dragons Soccer Team.
This is Music to mt ears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 03:20:55 PM
All-Time,

Hated to see Oneonta lose that way. I've never been in favor of the penalty kick shootout as the way to determine a winner.

In doing my research of that game I was amazed at how many shutouts those 2 goalies had. I knew if someone scored a goal in that game it was probably going to hold up. The other amazing thing was the goalie for Amherst had only given up 4 goals all year long and had 15 shutouts in 19 games. Never gave up more than 1 goal  in a game all year and ended his 4 year career with an NCAA record for career shutouts, which I think the number was 49.  Now the irony or should I say the kicker....he was a 2nd team All American.  I mean what in hell do you have to do to make first team All American? And I wonder who the First Team All American was and what his credentials were that could be better than the guy from Amherst.

Oneonta's goalie was right there in the same neighborhood as the guy from Amherst. I'm thinking the goalie for Calvin may have been the 1st team AA but his team lost in the semi's and I heard Calvin played a soft schedule. Amherst and Oneonta certainly didn't play a soft schedule. I was thrilled that my Cardinals were one of the few teams that actually beat the Red Dragons this year and at Oneonta as well. Of course our return trip in the SUNYAC playoffs had a different outcome but we were pretty banged up and I knew we probably wouldn't get lucky twice down there. I was happy we got an at large bid and got to play in the NCAA tournament. We lost to Bowdoin 1-0 and their goal came with 15 seconds left in regulation. THAT was a heartbreaker.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 03:23:48 PM
Also glad to hear that Mikey McElroy's injury isn't serious. I thought maybe the coaching staff held him out of the Potsdam game so he could play against us. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 03:51:01 PM
Geneseo leads RIT 51-37 at the half. Justin Ringen with 13 points and John Decker with 12.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2015, 04:46:32 PM
Cortland rolls to 44-21 halftime bulge at Fredonia. Bench overwhelms the Freds. A. McGuire and M. Kelly pace the late first half surge, certainly fresh after seeing no action Friday. Same with point guard D. Sweitzer who plays a good deal of the period. Fredonia also unloads bench but with little success. B. Estarfaa scores seven points early to lead dominating RDragons. Actually, J. Cooper's nine marks top Cortland pointmakers. Kelly with seven
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 04:51:10 PM
Plattsburgh leads Oneonta 40-30 at the half. Great video feed but live stats didn't work for most of the period. Finally just checked and they are up and running.  Cards with balanced scoring are led by Ed Corea with 8 points. Corea scored all 8 points in one minute and 26 seconds by hitting a jumper, a 3 pointer and then another 3 pointer. The Cardinals were trailing 18-15 and after Ed's explosion they were up 23-18 and never trailed the rest of the period. They extended that lead to as much as 38-25 but sloppy play in the final 3 minutes  allowed the Red Dragons to close within 10 at the break. Xavier Thomas with 7 points, Kyle Richardson with 6 points and Isaiah Johnson also with 6 points.

Seth Thompson with 7 points and Jack Dignan with 6 to lead Oneonta. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
Brockport leading Hobart 75-71 with 1:48 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 04:59:28 PM
Geneseo defeats RIT 91-80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:00:45 PM
Brockport holds off Hobart by a final score of 82-81.  Corrected score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 05, 2015, 05:07:05 PM
I think it was 82-81 Brockport. I caught the very end and the score on the video had 82-81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 05, 2015, 05:07:05 PM
I think it was 82-81 Brockport. I caught the very end and the score on the video had 82-81.

I'm looking at a live stats page that shows the final as 82-78 with 0:00 on the clock but they have been wrong before. In fact they are wrong quite often. ;D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 05, 2015, 05:30:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 05, 2015, 05:07:05 PM
I think it was 82-81 Brockport. I caught the very end and the score on the video had 82-81.

I'm looking at a live stats page that shows the final as 82-78 with 0:00 on the clock but they have been wrong before. In fact they are wrong quite often. ;D

I think Hobart hit a 3 as time expired. That might have broken the live stats. It doesn't function well at the end of halves!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:31:56 PM
Buffalo State about to take down Oswego  as they lead 61-53 with 35 seconds left in the game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:33:41 PM
Plattsburgh firmly in control at Oneonta as they lead the Red Dragons by a 78-63 score with 2 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2015, 05:35:57 PM

Cortland over host Fredonia 70-46. Wasn't that close ..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:38:45 PM
Buffalo State hands Oswego their first defeat 66-56. Good comeback for the Bengals. Makes my Cardinals tied with Cortland for 1st Place in the YAC. Thanks Bengals. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:44:37 PM
It's now a final in Oneonta  as Plattsburgh defeats the Red Dragons by an 85-67 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 05:48:34 PM
Heavens to Murgatroyd, hold the presses...the Potsdam Bears are leading New Paltz by a  69-54 score with 2 minutes left to play.

And neither team scores in the final 2 minutes and 28 seconds of the game making the final 69-54. Potsdam finally gets a W and that will make their long trip back to the North Country a much happier occasion.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2015, 06:55:47 PM
What a difference a day makes... :D.!! After a devastating loss  :'( yesterday to Cortland, my beloved BENGALS  come back today with a "quality" win vs #25 Oswego! And while this means nothing more than just a win, my boys sure could use this "shot in the arm" after yesterdays buzzer beater loss.

I must admit at half time there were many who were wondering if Buff State was out of their funk yet. A season low 23 point on 27.9 % shooting, at halftime,  is not a way to beat Oswego (who was up 32-23). However Jordan Chateau "J. C". decided that after scoring only 5 pts and snatching 5 rebounds vs. Cortland, it was time to step up. And step up he did!! 22 pts, 9 rebounds and 1 block is the kind of performance that many of the BENGAL faithful had come to expect from J.C.. And he delivered.  :)

   Add Lovell Smiths double-double (17 points and 11 boards), Mike Henry's "near" double -double (10 boards and 9 pts), Nico McLeans  9 pts, 8 rebounds and 4 steals and Jordan Glover's 8 pts and 4 steals, and you have a starting unit that accounted for all but 1 point in this "must win" game. And after Buff State was outscored by 9 in the 1st half , they turned it around and held Oswego to 19% shooting in the 2nd half and nearly doubled Oswegos pts (43-24)

  A 1-1 weekend, against 2 of the top tier SUNYAC teams, is not what BENGAL faithful had in mind Friday morning...but we'll take it. Alfred U. (4-1) is next up this Saturday. BENGALS are gonna have to do better if they want that "W". Here's to hoping that T.B.I.Y.T.C. (the best is yet to come)!! ;)

GO BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 05, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
Cortland whippersnappers crack Fredonia 70-46, at Magicman's urging. A blowout actually featuring the RDragons' deep roster. Bench leads the first half pullaway, particularly 3-point shooting of fr A. McGuire. Corts 15x26fg, 6x11 at intermission. Sixteen Cortlands in action, 12 score. B. Estarfaa 13 pts in 21', McGuire 10 pts (3x5 3s) in 21'. G. Carter also plays 21' -- the most of any Dragon. Wind up 23x52fg, 8x22 3s, 16x23ft, 14 trnvrs. Freds play tired ....17x53fg, 4x20 3s, 8x17ft, 20 trnvrs. Never in this game in dropping to 1-7 overall. Cortland 5-1 and home Wednesday vs. Elmira
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2015, 11:05:06 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 05, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
Cortland whippersnappers crack Fredonia 70-46, at Magicman's urging. A blowout actually featuring the RDragons' deep roster. Bench leads the first half pullaway, particularly 3-point shooting of fr A. McGuire. Corts 15x26fg, 6x11 at intermission. Sixteen Cortlands in action, 12 score. B. Estarfaa 13 pts in 21', McGuire 10 pts (3x5 3s) in 21'. G. Carter also plays 21' -- the most of any Dragon. Wind up 23x52fg, 8x22 3s, 16x23ft, 14 trnvrs. Freds play tired ....17x53fg, 4x20 3s, 8x17ft, 20 trnvrs. Never in this game in dropping to 1-7 overall. Cortland 5-1 and home Wednesday vs. Elmira

This is more in tune with what I expected from the Red Dragons back on opening day. Had I seen this kind of balance and domination, my placement of this team, in my pecking order of YAC teams, surely would have been a few notches higher.

When I saw your opening sentence "Cortland whippersnappers crack Fredonia" I thought you were doing a take off of this quote of mine, from late Friday evening, that I made over on the posting board to the members  of the D3 Men's National Pick Em League that I belong to. 11 of us picked Buffalo State to win that game, while 3 players had Cortland. This was the post:

Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 09:56:16 PM
Big John, Mr Y and the Express were the beneficiaries of that 3 pointer by Cortland at the buzzer. The other 11 of us are cursing that young whipper sniper. ::) :P

Then I thought for a moment and said to myself...No jdex would have no reason to visit that board. His whippersnappers quote must have come from this post I made on Saturday at 12:30 PM. because he did say "at magicman's urging".

Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2015, 12:31:35 PM
The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons an 11 point favorite. Ten days ago that spread would have been 20 points. I'm taking Cortland because they have too much talent for the Blue Devils, but Coach Spanbauer better crack the whip and keep this team focused. Cortland wins this one 82-69.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 04:33:34 AM
Say it ain't so....Champ. ???

Friday's game against Cortland State...attendance...1204... Bengals lose 84-83

Saturday's game against undefeated and current YAC Champ Oswego...attendance.215... Bengals win 66-56

Several observations:

1.  You lose 1 stinking game...a barnburner no less, on a last second dagger and your fans turn fairweather and desert you. :o 

2.  Bengals don't play well in front of large crowds.


Here's a post I made early Friday morning on the Undefeated and Winless board, regarding our annual contest, to hopefan, who had Oswego as his undefeated team this year.

Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 07:21:41 AM
Quote from: hopefan on December 04, 2015, 05:59:42 AM
I'll be more than happy to get through my own death-maze this weekend, as my winless Chatham team takes on equally winless W&J, and my undefeated Lakers of Oswego have a very tough road game at Buffalo State... sweatin' blood droplets....
hopefan,
If Buffalo State's leading scorer, Lovell Smith is still sitting, because of an injury he received in the first game of the season, you could be OK. If he's healthy, I think the Lakers go down on Saturday afternoon.

I looked like a prestidigitator of the highest order when I made that bold statement, as the Lakers did go down, and Lovell Smith certainly had a lot to do with that, by scoring 17 points and grabbing 11 boards. His back to back buckets with less than 3 minutes left in the game pushed the Bengal lead from 3 to 7 points and sealed the deal for Buffalo State.

I looked like I had egg on my face, however, with this statement from that same post:

Quote from: magicman on December 04, 2015, 07:21:41 AM
Buffalo State has a lot of talent and depth this year as the rotation is 10 deep, so it wouldn't surprise me if they upset the applecart and win the SUNYAC.

The Bengals scored 66 points in the game against Oswego...65 of em by the starters and 1 POINT BY THE BENCH.   Earlier, on Saturday evening,  I was discussing the outcome of the Ithaca-St. Lawrence game with my favorite coach and remarking on the 88-78 win by the Saints over the Bombers. I was looking at the box score and I said to the coach, "Ithaca scored 78 points tonight and their bench had a grand total of 2 points. Not often you see that in a box score. We both thought that was rather amazing. Little did we know that those 2 points were TWICE AS MANY as the Bengal bench would get against the Lakers. I mention the Bengal's depth and it becomes non-existent. 

So now you see me...now you don't. ::)  I went from the top to the bottom with those 2 quotes. ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 08:43:11 AM
I think our newest poster was trying to create a false illusion for me here, with the bolded part of this message. 

Quote from: All-Time on December 05, 2015, 02:04:12 PM
I agree with all magicman's predictions this afternoon except the Oneonta Red Dragons will pull this one out at home.
They are battle tested tough and this Senior laden team will pull out the victory. Look out for Lawrence Coleman to have a monster game.
I heard Mike McElroy has a bruised thigh and will sit this one out.
Enjoy the games.

I responded with this comment...note the bolded part: 

Quote from: magicman on December 05, 2015, 03:23:48 PM
Also glad to hear that Mikey McElroy's injury isn't serious. I thought maybe the coaching staff held him out of the Potsdam game so he could play against us.

From Saturday's Oneonta-Plattsburgh box score. So who led the Red Dragons in points, along with game honors in rebounds, notching a double-double of 18 points and 13 boards? You guessed it.... that injured, probable missing person. Be sure and note the 37 minutes he played. Probably limped around the court throughout the entire game. ???  I'm :o  Also trying to figure out how Mikey had 6 personal fouls? Is that a Red Dragon special feature?

SUNY Oneonta 67
##   Player      FGM-FGA   3FGM-3FGA   FTM-FTA   OFF-DEF   TOT   PF   TP   A   TO   BLK   STL   MIN
3   Mikey McElroy  6      19       1        6       5      8        5  8       13    6    18    0      3        1     2         37

All-Time I was born at night...it just wasn't last night. :D  After all I am old enough to be your father!!  ;D
We Cardinal fans feel better knowing we got the Red Dragons best lineup, but also know that Oneonta beat us in our house last year and how quickly ones fortunes can change in the SUNYAC. I'm sure when the Red Dragons invade Plattsburgh on February 5th they will have a few dufflebags full of revenge loaded on that bus with them. For now, however, I hope the guys can wrap their heads around a win against Williams on Wednesday. Always nice to get a win against the NESCAC conference. We owe them a few beatings, especially after soccer season, with Bowdoin beating Plattsburgh, and Amherst beating Oneonta in the NCAA's.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 06, 2015, 09:20:19 AM
Magicman
My information was obviously wrong.
I'm only as good as the information I'm given. I told you I was new at the posts and certainly can't compete with a legend like yourself.
I learned my lesson to never go against the Legends information or picks in the future :).
Very Impressed with Plattsburgh and Kyle Richardson is a STUD. Sorry i didn't get to see him that much last year when we played you.
This kid will compete for POY and Coach Curle has a great group of players around him.
Plattsburgh will definitely compete for the SUNYAC Championship THIS SEASON.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 06, 2015, 10:57:00 AM
Magicman....wanted to point out something that happened to me while surfing the CAC games yesterday.  My comments also on the CAC board.  I tried to check in on the Hamilton game at Vasser and the Middlebury game at Skidmore.  I had trouble getting the webcasts as it seemed to me that both private host schools wanted some kind of payment!   I asked Vandy74 about it since he posted wrt the Midd lost.  I am aware you attended the Skidmore game. 
Oh by the way...your WBB team must be very good.  Did they not beat Bowdoin?....well the lady Bears won big over Tufts yesterday...very highly ranked Jumbos!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 11:09:26 AM
The leading candidates for the SUNYAC Player of the Week. 

Kyle Richardson from Plattsburgh State and Justin Ringen from Geneseo State

I added to a previous post to update the 3 game totals for both players. These were clearly the 2 dominant performances for the week.

You would think that a night's work of 30 points and 18 rebounds along with an earlier game of another double-double might get that player a SUNYAC Player of the Week award. But for Kyle Richardson his big game Friday night to lead all the SUNYAC players might not be enough. On Tuesday he put up 15 points  and 12 rebounds against St. Lawrence in a 77-65 Cardinal victory and factor that with Friday night's output and that should get you some League recognition. Cards are 2-0 in those 2 games.


On Saturday afternoon Kyle continued his outstanding week as Plattburgh traveled to Oneonta and came away with an 85-67 road win over the Red Dragons, which left the Cardinals tied with those other Red Dragons from Cortland atop the SUNYAC standings with a 2-0 record. Plattsburgh finished the week with a record of 3-0 to improve to 4-1 overall.  Kyle's stat line for the Oneonta game was 22 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists. 3 steals and 2 blocks. He was 9x15 from the field and 4x7 from the line in 31 minutes. His 3 game totals are listed below.


Geneseo's Justin Ringen, put up back to back games of 30 points on Wednesday and Friday against Nazareth and Roberts Wesleyan. Knights went 1-1 in those 2 games but Justin hit a game winning 3 pointer with a guy right on him to beat Nazareth in the first round of the Wendy's Classic.

On Saturday Justin and the Knights defeated RIT to win the 3rd place slot in the final Wendy's College Classic Tournament to be held. Justin had 21 points, 7 rebounds 3 assists and 2 steals. He was 8x13 from the field and 5x9 from 3 point range. He had no free throw attempts and played 37 minutes.  Geneseo finished 2-1 in the tournament  and Justin's 3 game totals are as follows:

Justin's stats: 81 pts, 19 reb, 10 assists, 3 steal, 1 block. 29x50 fg, 14x21 3's, 9x10 ft. 109 mins' out of 120.
Teams record for week 2-1....3 non-conference games

Kyle's stat's: 67 pts, 39 reb, 7 assists, 7 steals, 6 blocks. 25x45 fg, 2x7 3's, 15x23 ft. 105 mins. out of 120.
Teams record for week 3-0....2 conference games

Justin has 14 more points than Kyle. Kyle has 20 more rebounds than Justin. Justin leads in assists, while Kyle leads in steals and blocks. I vote them as co-players of the week. Both of these outstanding performances deserve recognition.

I've been told that  there probably won't be co-players of the week. I've also been told that in the case of 2 players, who both had outstanding weeks, then the player who played on the team with the better winning record almost always gets the award. That was why last week Kyle's 36 point, 15 rebound effort against Skidmore failed to gain him Player of the Week honors, when Buff State's Kevin Marmolejos went off for 32 points against Hobart, by nailing a school record, 10 three pointers in 14 attempts. I thought both of those games were award worthy, but the Buffalo State player was chosen over Kyle  because his team won the game and Plattsburgh lost their game. So if that is the case, then a 3-0 record trumps a 2-1 record so Kyle should get this week's Player of the Week Award. We shall see.

I still think both players should share this coming week's award. We may not see 2 overall weekly efforts this good for the rest of the season. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 11:50:05 AM
Quote from: All-Time on December 06, 2015, 09:20:19 AM
Magicman
My information was obviously wrong.
I'm only as good as the information I'm given. I told you I was new at the posts and certainly can't compete with a legend like yourself.
I learned my lesson to never go against the Legends information or picks in the future :).
Very Impressed with Plattsburgh and Kyle Richardson is a STUD. Sorry i didn't get to see him that much last year when we played you.
This kid will compete for POY and Coach Curle has a great group of players around him.
Plattsburgh will definitely compete for the SUNYAC Championship THIS SEASON.

All-Time
It's hard to get reliable information sometimes. And I knew you were giving me an honest opinion of that info. I just couldn't resist pulling your leg.

I'm only a legend in my own mind, not in my own time. ??? And you will do just fine posting on these boards.

Plattsburgh State is a work in progress. Kyle Richardson is not. Kyle could have started on just about any team in the country last year, but as a newcomer to Plattsburgh State (he transferred in with 2 years of eligibility) he joined a team that was a senior dominated squad. With 6 seniors and 2 juniors that had been with the program since the beginning, Coach Curle explained to him that he wouldn't be starting because of that depth and commitment to the program those players had made. Kyle accepted the fact that he would be coming off the bench all year and did an outstanding job in that role. He averaged nearly as many minutes as some starters and was the 2nd leading rebounder on the team and 7th leading scorer at 6.2 ppg. I knew he was an explosion waiting to happen and it's been fun to see that come to fruition so far this season. He had 10 points and 5 rebounds in 18 minutes last year when you visited Plattsburgh. He doubled those numbers yesterday. ;D And he is certainly in the mix for POY, but I'll be happy if he makes All Conference.

The Cardinals have a great group of young players as Coach Curle had to bring in a large class of newcomers to replace all the players we lost through graduation. They will get better as they learn the ropes of college ball, especially on the defensive end. Always harder to get freshman to learn good defense. In high school they usually play against teams that have a few good players. In college you play against teams that have all good players on the floor at the same time. That's the biggest adjustment, defense.

We hope to make the playoffs. Once you get in the playoffs, well, any one of those 6 teams can win 3 games in a row. Look how many times an 8 seed or 6 seed has won the crown over the years. I know Plattsburgh has done it twice from being a 6 seed and a 4 seed I think it was and Brockport has done it as an 8th seed. By mid February the freshman in our rotation will be better equipped to handle crunch time under stress. What started out as a rebuilding year, has turned into a year of hope, that we can still compete for a chance to win the YAC's automatic NCAA bid.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 12:58:40 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2015, 04:33:34 AM
Say it ain't so....Champ. ???

Friday's game against Cortland State...attendance...1204... Bengals lose 84-83

Saturday's game against undefeated and current YAC Champ Oswego...attendance.215... Bengals win 66-56

Several observations:

1.  You lose 1 stinking game...a barnburner no less, on a last second dagger and your fans turn fairweather and desert you. :o 

2.  Bengals don't play well in front of large crowds.
I seriously doubt that "fairweather" would describe our BENGAL  fans. I honestly believe that it was a combination of 4 factors.

1 - Cortland faces Buff State in every sport that Buff State has. Both football teams (which Oswego doesnt play) was very competitive in the Empire 8 this year, plus Buff State upset the then ranked, and un-defeated,Cortland Red Dragons on October 10th at Coyer field. There is a genuine dislike for the Red Dragons (CSU style) at Buff State. In fact last year the game vs Cortland on 2/6 (Friday) drew 1,200 people (a 60-54 win). The next day my BENGALS beat Oswego by 4, 80-76, in front of 155 people!. No fairweather just a serious dislike of dragons on Elmwood. I remeember 1 year some fans had a big poster of a Bengal tiger having "his way" with a Red DRagon (I'll leve it at that).Campus Ssecurity made them remove the poster pretty much as soon as it was revealed. But no 1 forgot that poster....No 1!!!   ;D

It could also be......

2 - ....the "hangover" effect. Kevin Marmelejos, the current SUNYAC P.O.W.  ( who BTW did not play at all in the 2nd half due to illness) "reportedly" told a coach, during the game, that the low crowd was due to everyone having hangovers from Friday nights post game activities! He said that the Elmwood ave clubs/bars/restaurants were packed Friday night after the game. The crowd  at "Coles" restaurant/bar (I believe that's where your boys eat at when they come to Buffalo), actually spilled out into the streets. I have no doubt that a good number of the Cortland game fans thoroughly enjoyed the experience of what I can only describe as 1 of the best games that I have seen at Buff State in 8 years ( and I have been to every home game over the past 8 years). There was a ton of drama at 1300 Elmwood Friday night. The last 10 mins of the game saw campus security actually walk to the floor, draw a rope across the front of the student body section, as a preventive, in case Buff State pulled off game winner (I've never seen the  "armed" campus security do that a any event at Buff State before). Add to that the fact that when Cortland's J.P. Reagan hit the game winner, he was less than 5 feet from the student section. When the Cortland team ran onto the court and mobbed Reagan, they actually wound up on the lap of the students in the front row (and campus security). Heck i'm betting that that crowd will be the largest crowd at ANY SUNYAC game during the regular season this year (as I believe the Cortland game last year was also the largest of any regular season 'Yac game).

or it could have been.........

3 - ....."Damn, I just cant take another game like that. My heart can't take it"....  Heck, thats what I said when I went home Friday night. However my wife insisted that I, take my high blood pressure medicine, eat some oatmeal and get back out there Saturday for the Oswego game. And you taught me that a "Happy wife...Is a Happy life"!! ;) Sooo I followed Kim's advice (and yours). Others might not have had a loved 1 to encourage them to return Saturday afternoon (and it was a beautiful day, weather wise,  in Buffalo by the way) and chance some more stress. I'm glad that I did.

Lastly it could have been....

4 - ..."Hero Certified burgers".  Friday night those folks set up a table at the Sports arena, inside the gym, and gave away free burgers for the entire basketball game. I mean "FREE BURGERS" for showing up and supporting your team. Great promo. I wanted 1 but wasn't willing to leave my seat and stand in line for 20 mins to get 1! Can you say "awkward"!! ;D

Trust me, Buff State has the BEST fans in the SUNYAC/East. Period...end of story.  ;)

    As far as Lovell and our bench strength, you already have my thoughts on that from last night. The kid, "Vell",  is a difference maker and being around kids like him, Jordan Glover, Mike Henry, Jordan Chateau and others is a joy. Just a plain joy. Good damn kids (dont let me get started, I get emotional !!  :'( :-X ).Makes you want to go to the gym to support them every day. I believe that you have met Jordan before, and if not I'm sure that you will. Something tells me that you may have even met Lovell and/or Nico. If not then I'm gonna drop a bug in their ear, that they stop by the "Music Shop" and meet the "Magic 1",  during their Jan 8th northbound journey, and maybe even spend a couple of $$. Or ask 1 of my favorite coaches to call you when they get to their "shoot around" at Plattsburgh and have you stop by for a min.! Mark my words....Kyle Richardson/Lovell Smith/Nico McLean will be 3 of the top 10 vote-getters for SUNYAC player of the year at the end of the season. [I'm gonna save this post  ;).]



GO BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2015, 11:09:26 AM
The leading candidates for the SUNYAC Player of the Week. 

Kyle Richardson from Plattsburgh State and Justin Ringen from Geneseo State

I've been told that  there probably won't be co-players of the week. I've also been told that in the case of 2 players, who both had outstanding weeks, then the player who played on the team with the better winning record almost always gets the award. That was why last week Kyle's 36 point, 15 rebound effort against Skidmore failed to gain him Player of the Week honors, when Buff State's Kevin Marmolejos went off for 32 points against Hobart, by nailing a school record, 10 three pointers in 14 attempts. I thought both of those games were award worthy, but the Buffalo State player was chosen over Kyle  because his team won the game and Plattsburgh lost their game. So if that is the case, then a 3-0 record trumps a 2-1 record so Kyle should get this week's Player of the Week Award. We shall see.

I still think both players should share this coming week's award. We may not see 2 overall weekly efforts this good for the rest of the season.

I agree! Good point there Magic! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 02:32:09 PM
Well I said to say it ain't so, and you sure did.  ;D

Didn't realize the hatred for the Red Dragons from football would spill over to hoops. Makes sense though. Still would have thought that more than 215 would show up for any game that the Bengals play, especially if you have a good team.

And when I made those statements about the attendance figures, I really thought that figure from the Lakers game was probably a misprint and I was just pulling your chain...who knew...it wasn't a misprint...go figure!

You're right, this  threesome... Kyle Richardson - Lovell Smith - Nico McLean will be All Conference selections and in the conversation for POY 

Looking forward to the Bengals visit as usual.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
Plattsburgh State 85 Oneonta State 67

This game was a closely contested affair for the first 12 minutes with several ties and lead changes that resulted in an 18-13  Red Dragon lead with 11 minutes left in the half. Plattsburgh's #1 long distance shooter Ed Correa , then scored 8 straight points on 3 jumpers, to fuel a 12-0 Cardinal run that gave them the lead at 25-18, with 7:21 remaining in the half. Plattsburgh would extend the lead on a pair of jumpers by freshman Isaiah Johnson, that were bookended by a pair of triples, one from Eli Bryant and one from Xavier Thomas.  A pair of free throws by Jon Patron, plus 1 more from Thomas, gave the Cardinals the biggest lead of the period with a 38-25 advantage and 3:13 left to play. The rest of the half was a sloppy affair with the teams combining for 8 turnovers, 4 fouls, and 7 missed shots, most of those by Oneonta, as the Cardinal only had 2 shot attempts in that span, making 1 and missing 1. Plattsburgh kept turning the ball over before they could get a shot attempt off. The Red Dragons went 2 for 8 in that stretch and went into the break down by 10 at 40-30.

Oneonta needed to cut that deficit after the break and they slowly kept chipping away, until a 3 pointer by Mikey McElroy brought them within 4 points at 50-46 with  12:16 remaining on the clock. A jumper by Correa, a 3 point play by Kyle Richardson, and another jumper by Isaiah Johnson quickly built the lead back to double digits with 10 minutes left in the game. The Red Dragons could never get it back to a two possession game the rest of the way. The lead would reach 19 on another inside move by Richardson and the Cards coasted home with the 85-67 win.

Kyle Richardson led Plattsburgh once more, with 22 points and 9 rebounds, just missing out on his 4th straight double -double. He added 4 steals, 3 assists and 2 blocks to round out his stat line for the afternoon. Kyle's big week gives him 12.2 rebounds per game and should make him one of the top ten rebounders in the nation in Division III when the NCAA updates their stats. He will also move into the top 50 in the country with his 22.6 points per game scoring average. Eddie Correa had 14 points and 5 rebounds as he was 3x4 from long distance. Point guard Zack Coleman, had 13 points,  7 rebounds and 2 assists, leading the Plattsburgh attack. And back up point guard Eli Bryant, with his court time increasing with every  game, had another solid outing with 10 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals and 3 assists in 24 minutes of action. Xavier Thomas and Isaiah Johnson both scored 8 points, while Magic Grigg came off the bench to grab 7 rebounds, with a basket and a block, in 12 minutes of playing time, with 6 of those boards coming on the offensive end.

Plattsburgh shot 29x63 (46%) from the field, 5x14 from beyond the arc (35.7%) and 22x37 (59.5%) from the foul line. They controlled the boards with a 48-36 edge there and committed 16 turnovers to 14 for Oneonta.

The Red Dragons got a big game from Mikey McElroy as he returned from the injury list and had a double-double with 18 points and 13 rebounds. Lawrence Coleman added 16 points and 4 rebounds. Jack Dignan had 13 points, 6 assists, 5 steals and 3 rebounds.

Oneonta was 23x61 from the field (37,7%), 3x19 from long distance (15.8%), and 18x26 from the line (69.2%)

Oneonta drops to 3-2 on the year, 1-1 in the SUNYAC. They return to action on Wednesday when they host the Williams College Ephs out of the NESCAC conference at 7:00 PM

Plattsburgh improves to 4-1 (2-0 in the YAC) and will now be off for a week until Saturday, December 12th when they will travel to Middlebury for the annual battle with their NESCAC rival at 4:00 PM. The Cards will be in first place in the conference until next year at the very least. Good job Cardinals

I hope that both YAC teams can handle their NESCAC foes as that will give the conference's SOS a boost.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
5 -0. I think that I'll just stick to 'Yac hoops. Anyone know how to delete an entire post??

The upper right hand corner of your post, there are 3 words there...quote, which you already know how to use...modify, which you can use to correct a mistake or a typo in your post as you have just modified your post...and last but not least...remove, which, when you click on it allows you to cancel a post as if it never existed....which I'm sure you'll want to do to get rid of that idle boast about beating a team of Cardinals from the North Country, that are currently tearing up the ice here in Plattsburgh. I see it's now gone final, 5-0 today, after a 2-0 defeat yesterday. Hard to beat my Cardinals when the opponents can't score a single goal in 2 games...Just sayin.

Notice I even shortened your quote so your post doesn't show up in my post, so after you've deleted it no one will ever know it existed...except me, and like an elephant... I never forget. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2015, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
5 -0. I think that I'll just stick to 'Yac hoops. Anyone know how to delete an entire post??

The upper right hand corner of your post, there are 3 words there...quote, which you already know how to use...modify, which you can use to correct a mistake or a typo in your post as you have just modified your post...and last but not least...remove, which, when you click on it allows you to cancel a post as if it never existed....which I'm sure you'll want to do to get rid of that idle boast about beating a team of Cardinals from the North Country, that are currently tearing up the ice here in Plattsburgh. I see it's now gone final, 5-0 today, after a 2-0 defeat yesterday. Hard to beat my Cardinals when the opponents can't score a single goal in 2 games...Just sayin.

Notice I even shortened your quote so your post doesn't show up in my post, so after you've deleted it no one will ever know it existed...except me, and like an elephant... I never forget. ;D   
Post???   :-[ What post??   5-0?? What on earth could you be talking about??? ::) 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 06, 2015, 06:56:18 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 07:04:56 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2015, 05:31:26 PM
Oneonta drops to 3-2 on the year, 1-1 in the SUNYAC. They return to action on Wednesday when they host the Williams College Ephs out of the NESCAC conference at 7:00 PM
Plattsburgh improves to 4-1 (2-0 in the YAC) and will now be off for a week until Saturday, December 12th when they will travel to Middlebury for the annual battle with their NESCAC rival at 4:00 PM. The Cards will be in first place in the conference until next year at the very least. Good job Cardinals
I hope that both YAC teams can handle their NESCAC foes as that will give the conference's SOS a boost.

2 games vs NESCAC, the #7 ranked conference (this week according to Massey)in the country!!!   I agree "O.W.M.1"  (O Wise Magic 1), that definitely create opportunity for our conferences strength to move up. Did someone say "Multiple NCAA bids" for the SUNYAC?? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2015, 09:15:58 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2015, 05:44:37 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
5 -0. I think that I'll just stick to 'Yac hoops. Anyone know how to delete an entire post??

The upper right hand corner of your post, there are 3 words there...quote, which you already know how to use...modify, which you can use to correct a mistake or a typo in your post as you have just modified your post...and last but not least...remove, which, when you click on it allows you to cancel a post as if it never existed....which I'm sure you'll want to do to get rid of that idle boast about beating a team of Cardinals from the North Country, that are currently tearing up the ice here in Plattsburgh. I see it's now gone final, 5-0 today, after a 2-0 defeat yesterday. Hard to beat my Cardinals when the opponents can't score a single goal in 2 games...Just sayin.

Notice I even shortened your quote so your post doesn't show up in my post, so after you've deleted it no one will ever know it existed...except me, and like an elephant... I never forget. ;D   
Post???   :-[ What post??   5-0?? What on earth could you be talking about??? ::) 8-)

So you learned something new tonight. Good for you. The magicman...forever instructing so that the next generation will have the benefit of his knowledge. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2015, 09:21:54 PM
O.W.M.1 ...you are the best!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2015, 09:08:15 AM
Final Scores from December 5th

Rochester Tech 80  vs Geneseo State 91

As expected The Knights won this matchup and did so rather quickly. They were in front of the Tigers by a  15-1 score,  4 minutes and 23 seconds after the opening tip. They had leads of 12 to 19 points the rest of the way until the Tigers hit a closing 3 pointer to cut the lead to the final of 91-80. I had the Knights winning by an 83-73 final score so I was in the neighborhood with my MOV and total.

Justin Ringen led the Knights with 21 points, 7  rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals. He was 8x13 from the field and 5 of 9 from long range. Justin's big week of 81 points in 3 games will leave him with a 24.1 ppg average, good enough to be ranked as one of the top 25 players in the country, when the NCAA updates their stats. 

John Decker, after missing 2 games, came back on Friday with limited minutes against Roberts Wesleyan, and scored 8 points in that game with 18 minutes of floor time. On Saturday against RIT he played 27 minutes off the bench, more floor time than anyone except Ringen, and scored 18 points with 4 assists. He was 6x11 from the field and 3x6 from downtown. Ringen and Decker, two teammates from DII Dominican who transferred to Geneseo this year will instantly make the Knights a contender for the top prize in the YAC.

Nick Fessenden had 16 points and tied Ringen for the team high in rebounds with 7. Point guard Charlie Zaepfel has 14 points and 8 assists.

The Knights improve to 6-1 and are off until early January when they start conference play by hosting Fredonia on January 5th at 7:30 PM.

         

Brockport State 82  vs  Hobart 81

The Golden Eagles trailed Hobart for 29 minutes of this game and had to overcome an early 13 point deficit but they caught the Statesmen with 11:41 left in the game on a layup by Matthew Smith to tie the game at 52 and shortly after Hamed Shamseldin buried a 3 ball to give them a lead they never relinquished. Hobart kept it close but Port opened up a 7 point advantage on a layup by David Clark with 3:19 remaining and the Eagles had just enough gas in the tank to fly home with a win. After Smith hit 1 of 2 free throws with 3 seconds left to make it a 4 point 82-78 Brockport lead, the Statesmen got an uncontested 3 pointer at the buzzer to narrow the gap to a single point.

I had the Golden Eagles winning this game by an 84-76 final score, despite the fact that the National handicapper favored Hobart by 6 points. I missed the Eagles final total by only 2 points and would have only been 2 points off on Hobart's total if they hadn't hit that meaningless 3 pointer at the buzzer.

Hamed Shamseldin led the Golden Eagles and captured scoring honors with 22 points. He also had 5 rebounds, 3 assists and was 3 for 7 from beyond the arc. Matt Smith had 17 points with 3 assists and 2 steals. Olusola Adeniran added 15 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Cordell Torres led Port with 7 rebounds while scoring 6 points.

The Golden Eagles are off until after Christmas when they will participate in a holiday tournament in Florida. They will take on Bridgewater State on Monday 12-28 at 5:00 PM, followed by a game against currently undefeated John Carroll (7-0) on Tuesday 12-29 at 1:00 PM. A coupleof wins there would help the SUNYAC's SOS.       

Potsdam State 69  @  New Paltz State 54

The Bears finally get into the win column with an upset of the Hawks at New Paltz. I had New Paltz winning this one 72-60 but the double digit MOV would be in the Bears favor. At least I was close with my winning margin. Glad to be wrong on this game and hope the Bears can start a streak.

Potsdam jumped on the Hawks from the git-go as they has a double digit lead at 14-3 after 6 and a half minutes of playing time. The Hawks tried to catch up but could never get closer than two possessions. The Bears opened up their biggest lead of 14 points at 30-16 with 3 minutes left in the half  and went into the break up by a 33-23 margin.

Potsdam had more of the same in the 2nd period. After the Hawks closed to within 8 points on a pair of Keegan Donovan free throws with 16:48 left to play, the Bears got a 3 pointer from Joe Estramonte and a layup from Dante Langly to boost the lead back to 13 points. The Hawks would never see a single digit deficit again as the Bears lengthened their advantage to as much as 19 points and comfortably kept the Hawks at bay. I think it was the easiest win the Bears have had in over 3 years.

Dante Langly had 14 points and 7 rebounds to lead Potsdam. Josh Blagrove had 13 points and a game high 9 rebounds. Joe Estramonte had 13 points, while Vincent Smith had 8 points and 6 rebounds off the bench. Nate Wyatte had 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 points and 2 steals.  Serigne Kane added 6 points and 7 rebounds in 13 minutes on the floor.

The Hawks got a big game from Nick Paquette, who came off the bench to score 16 points and grab 7 rebounds.  Keegan Donovan had 12 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block. RJ Rosa added 9 points and Alex Perlman grabbed 9 rebounds to lead the team in that category.

The Bears are now 1-6 (1-1 in the YAC) and will take on North Country rivals St. Lawrence on Saturday     12-12 at 4:00 PM . They will end 2015 by hosting SUNY-Canton the next day, 12-13, at 3:00 PM.

The Hawks fall to 1-6  (0-2) and host Springfield College on Tuesday, 12-8, at 8:00 PM for their final game of the semester.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2015, 12:01:52 PM
Jdex...any reason why Oswego's Alex Rawa did not play Saturday at Buff State? Friday he was 2nd leading scorer vs Fredonia, and played 32 mins. Saturday, he warmed up but didn't step foot on the court!! ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 07, 2015, 12:15:48 PM
Hangover effect? I just got drunk at the games. Oh wait, I didn't say that.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2015, 01:08:23 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 07, 2015, 12:15:48 PM
Hangover effect? I just got drunk at the games. Oh wait, I didn't say that.  ;D

Good 1 Pg!!!!  Hopefully, for Rawa's sake, he may have just  been slightly injured or coaches decision (although that's hard to believe) is the reason why he didn't step on the floor. 2 games in less than 20 hours is never an easy deal, especially when your 1st game goes into overtime (B. Sortino layed all 45 mins vs Fredonia...not something that you see too often). Having gone to Fredonia at least once a year for the past 6 years, its not hard to imagine someone getting their drink on after a game. There's not much else to do down there but eat/drink and be merry (IMHO)! However I gotta believe that Leone runs a pretty tight ship at Oswego but hey....you never know! ;).  Just to be on the safe side, maybe I'll send a case of something to the Lakers, up at Max Zeil around the 5th of Feb ! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 07, 2015, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2015, 01:08:23 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 07, 2015, 12:15:48 PM
Hangover effect? I just got drunk at the games. Oh wait, I didn't say that.  ;D

Good 1 Pg!!!!  Hopefully, for Rawa's sake, he may have just  been slightly injured or coaches decision (although that's hard to believe) is the reason why he didn't step on the floor. 2 games in less than 20 hours is never an easy deal, especially when your 1st game goes into overtime (B. Sortino layed all 45 mins vs Fredonia...not something that you see too often). Having gone to Fredonia at least once a year for the past 6 years, its not hard to imagine someone getting their drink on after a game. There's not much else to do down there but eat/drink and be merry (IMHO)! However I gotta believe that Leone runs a pretty tight ship at Oswego but hey....you never know! ;).  Just to be on the safe side, maybe I'll send a case of something to the Lakers, up at Max Zeil around the 5th of Feb ! :)

I am sure the coaches have a pretty tight seal on the players during the season, unlike raucous fans like myself  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2015, 02:02:59 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 07, 2015, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2015, 01:08:23 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 07, 2015, 12:15:48 PM
Hangover effect? I just got drunk at the games. Oh wait, I didn't say that.  ;D

Good 1 Pg!!!!  Hopefully, for Rawa's sake, he may have just  been slightly injured or coaches decision (although that's hard to believe) is the reason why he didn't step on the floor. 2 games in less than 20 hours is never an easy deal, especially when your 1st game goes into overtime (B. Sortino layed all 45 mins vs Fredonia...not something that you see too often). Having gone to Fredonia at least once a year for the past 6 years, its not hard to imagine someone getting their drink on after a game. There's not much else to do down there but eat/drink and be merry (IMHO)! However I gotta believe that Leone runs a pretty tight ship at Oswego but hey....you never know! ;).  Just to be on the safe side, maybe I'll send a case of something to the Lakers, up at Max Zeil around the 5th of Feb ! :)

I am sure the coaches have a pretty tight seal on the players during the season, unlike raucous fans like myself  ;)

Say no more!   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 12:07:37 AM
Latest top 25 rankings by D3Hoops out today!

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week2

East - NYU at #14, St John Fisher at #24, Oswego at #32 and Geneseo at #54!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2015, 05:01:39 AM
Anyone reading these boards for the past few days knows that I have been lobbying to have 2 players that just put up outstanding weeks, named as Co-Players of the Week for the SUNYAC award. The week that each of these guys had, may very well be, the two best efforts, the conference will see all year. One of them received the Player of the Week award on Monday. The other one got no recognition at all. And that's just not right.

Justin Ringen was the recipient of the 3rd SUNYAC Player of the Week award and he deserved it. Here is his stats from the past week:

Justin put up back to back games of 30 points on Wednesday and Friday against Nazareth and Roberts Wesleyan. Knights went 1-1 in those 2 games but Justin hit a game winning 3 pointer with a guy right on him to beat Nazareth in the first round of the Wendy's Classic. I saw that shot as it happened in real time and it was a dandy. 8-) I even had to do the play by play for Plattsburgh State's Coach Curle as he called me with several minutes remaining in that game to ask me if I was watching it because his computer had died and he wanted to know what was taking place. The magicman to the rescue...who you gonna call ...??  :D

On Saturday Justin and the Knights defeated RIT to win the 3rd place slot in the final Wendy's College Classic Tournament to be held. Justin had 21 points, 7 rebounds 3 assists and 2 steals. He was 8x13 from the field and 5x9 from 3 point range. He had no free throw attempts and played 37 minutes.  Geneseo finished 2-1 in the tournament  and Justin's 3 game totals are as follows:

Justin's stats: 81 pts, 19 reb, 10 assists, 3 steals, 1 block. 29x50 fg, 14x21 3's, 9x10 ft. 109 mins. out of 120.
Teams record for week 2-1....3 non-conference games

Kyle Richardson was the other player with a week that was award worthy as well. In fact it's the 2nd straight week that Kyle could have and should have, received the SUNYAC weekly honor. Last week his 36 point, 15 rebound effort lost out to another players' 32 point night. I shook my head at that one because it was clear to me that Kyle's huge game was just as good as the weekly award winner.

Then came his 3 performances this week. This is what I wrote after his first 2 games:

"You would think that a night's work of 30 points and 18 rebounds along with an earlier game of another double-double might get that player a SUNYAC Player of the Week award. But for Kyle Richardson his big game Friday night to lead all the SUNYAC players might not be enough. On Tuesday he put up 15 points  and 12 rebounds against St. Lawrence in a 77-65 Cardinal victory and factor that with Friday night's output and that should get you some League recognition. Cards are 2-0 in those 2 games."


This is what I wrote after his 3rd game . "On Saturday afternoon Kyle continued his outstanding week as Plattburgh traveled to Oneonta and came away with an 85-67 road win over the Red Dragons, which left the Cardinals tied with those other Red Dragons from Cortland atop the SUNYAC standings with a 2-0 record. Plattsburgh finished the week with a record of 3-0 to improve to 4-1 overall.  Kyle's stat line for the Oneonta game was 22 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists. 3 steals and 2 blocks. He was 9x15 from the field and 4x7 from the line in 31 minutes."   

Here's Kyle's 3 game totals:

Kyle's stat's: 67 pts, 39 reb, 7 assists, 7 steals, 6 blocks. 25x45 fg, 2x7 3's, 15x23 ft. 105 mins. out of 120.
Teams record for week 3-0....2 conference games.

This was my summary:

Justin has 14 more points than Kyle. Kyle has 20 more rebounds than Justin. Justin leads in assists, while Kyle leads in steals and blocks. I was told the record of the team in those game would be the tiebreaker

Trying to pick one of these weekly performances over the other requires the wisdom of Solomon. However I was told by a very reliable source that in the case of 2 very good performances, the tiebreaker was the record of the player's team. Last week Kyle's big 36 point, 15 rebound effort, took place as the team was losing their game. The Buffalo State player that won the weekly award, had his 32 point night as the Bengals were winning their game against Hobart. He got the weekly award. So this week the Cardinals go 3-0, and win 2 conference games. The Knights go 2-1 and all 3 games are non-conference affairs. That should tilt the scales in Kyle's direction this week, shouldn't it? Apparently not. He lost the award when his team lost and he lost the award when his team goes undefeated and claims 1st place in the conference. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.  ???  :o

Let's get one thing straight. I'm in no way trying to belittle the record breaking effort that Kevin Marmolejos had last week or Justin Ringen put up this week. They both deserved to win a Player of the Week award. Kyle Richardson deserved to win the award in back to back weeks and still has nothing from the YAC to show for his efforts. 

So it's obvious to me that no one at SUNYAC headquarters has the wisdom of Solomon. When the biblical king was faced with a decision that involved an extremely difficult choice, we know his decision involved sharing. That decision, ultimately led to solving his conundrum. The wise decision here also involved sharing, which should have been Co-Players of the Week.

So for the 2nd week in a row the magicman's Player of the Week Award is a joint affair with Kyle Richardson and Justin Ringen winning the weekly prize. Great efforts on the part of both players and I hope they have a few more of those stashed in the bank, that they will be able to draw upon as needed. Congratulations guys.

Note to Kyle and Justin... the magicman's weekly award is much more prestigious than the SUNYAC's weekly award. Just ask him the next time you see him and he will explain why!  ;D     

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2015, 07:51:59 AM
More Final Scores from December 5th


Cortland State 70  @  Fredonia State 46

As jdex stated, this game wasn't as close as the final score indicates. Red Dragons had no letdowns in this game and the Blue Devils were never in this one. I had this as an 82-69 final and the 82 by Cortland was well within reach. After doubling Fredonia's score at 64-32 the Cortland coaching staff, took their foot off the gas for the final 9:44 of this game and only scored 6 points the rest of the way. The bench was emptied early and 12 players broke into the scoring column.

Freds also with 12 men in the scoring column but no one with more than 8 points. Overtime loss against the Lakers the day before may have had residual results.   

Cortland improves to 5-1 (2-0 Yac)and is tied with Plattsburgh for the lead in the conference standings after the first weekend of inter-league  play. The Red Dragons will be back in action on Wednesday at 7:30 when they host Elmira.

Fredonia is 1-7 (0-2) and will not play again  until after the new year.


Oswego State 56  @  Buffalo State 66

This one was another exciting ballgame in the Sports Arena that was a back and forth affair. I had the Bengals winning this game by an 78-74 final but both teams had trouble putting the ball in the hoop and my projected totals were a distant memory when the halftime score was only 32-23. Happy with the win however after the Bengals dropped the game on Friday. 

The Lakers erased an early 5 point Bengal lead and halfway through the first period finally got a nose in front at 15-14 with 9 minutes to go in the half. Oswego slowly expanded their advantage and eventually gained their largest margin at 32-21 on a 3 pointer by Matt Crockett with 1 minute to go.  Buff State's Lovell Smith hit a jumper to get it back to single digits at the break.

The Bengals needed to cut into the Laker lead out of the break and with contributions from the entire starting
five, they slowly gained ground, until Lovell Smith's layup with 9:27 left to play, finally brought them back in front at 42-41. It was their first lead since the 9 minute mark of the first period. The starting five during that stretch had 5, 4, 4, 3 and 3 points. The game remained  a single possession contest until tied at 47, Nico McLean got loose inside for a layup and after Oswego missed inside on their end, McLean came down and made a jumper to make it 51-47 with 3:48 to go. Oswego made 1 of 2 from the line and Smith hit a jumper for the Bengals. The Lakers misfired again and Smith responded with a tip in off an offensive rebound. That gave the big cats  the cushion they were looking for and up by 7 with 2:15 to play the Bengals just had to make their free throws down the stretch. They hit 5 of 6 from the line to close out the Lakers.

Jordan Chateau just missed a double-double, with his game high 22 points and 9 rebounds on 9x14 shooting. Lovell Smith did get a double-double with 17 points and the top rebounding effort of 11 boards. He added 2 assists, 2 blocks, and a steal. Mike Henry also missed a double-double by a single point as he had 9 points and 10 boards. Nico McLean added 9 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists and 4 steals. Jordan Glover had 8 points and 4 steals as well.

Oswego was led by Walter Sampson's 18 points, 6 assists, and 4 rebounds. Brian Sortino had 12 points, while Kyle Covley and Keith Tyson tossed in 8 points each. Tyson also had 8 rebounds.

The Lakers suffer their first loss of the season and are now 7-1 (1-1 YAC). They will host Cazenovia on Friday December 11th at 7:30 PM in their final contest of 2015.

Buffalo State is now 4-2 (1-1) and will return to action on Saturday 12-12 when they host the Alfred Saxons at 2:00 PM.
       
 

Updating the SUNYAC non-conference record of all games through December 5th.

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents 28-20   (includes 3 games against non-DIII teams. Buff State has 1 win and 1 loss against 2 schools that are not members of the NCAA, Geneseo has 1 loss against Roberts Wesleyan that won't count )


SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference NCAA DIII Teams     27-18  (Top 7 schools are 25-4. Bottom 3 schools are 2-14)                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                     

magicman's predictions all games (includes conference games)    43-13 (76.7%)
SUNYAC games         6-2     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 08, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 12:07:37 AM
Latest top 25 rankings by D3Hoops out today!

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week2

East - NYU at #14, St John Fisher at #24, Oswego at #32 and Geneseo at #54!

So you know in a Top 25... Oswego and Geneseo thus don't have ranking numbers, right ;)... just ORV. :p
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 08, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 12:07:37 AM
Latest top 25 rankings by D3Hoops out today!

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week2

East - NYU at #14, St John Fisher at #24, Oswego at #32 and Geneseo at #54!

So you know in a Top 25... Oswego and Geneseo thus don't have ranking numbers, right ;)... just ORV. :p

Yep.  Just thought that this way sounded better  :-[.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 08, 2015, 11:46:40 AM
My biased opinion says Brockport should be receiving votes!  ;D I guess the loss to Rochester did them in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2015, 12:23:36 PM
The NCAA has released their most recent set of statistical leaders and as expected Kyle Richardson  and Justin Ringen along with  few other players from the SUNYAC  have moved up the leader boards. This is a list of players who have made the Top 50 in some of the categories listed. Obviously some players have played in more games than others so that helps them in the totals categories. For example Kyle Richardson is 6th in the country in rebounds per game but is 91st in the country in total rebounds because he has only played 5 games while every person ahead of him except two, have played in 6, 7, or 8 games.

Plattsburgh State's Kyle Richardson is 2nd in the nation in Offensive Rebounds with 5.60 per game.
Kyle is now in 6th place in the nation with an average of 12.2 rebounds per game.
Kyle is 40th in scoring with a 22.6 points per game average.

Geneseo State's Justin Ringen is 9th in 3 point field goal percentage with 56.3%
Justin is 12th in total 3 point field goals made with 27
Justin is 16th with 3.86 made 3 point field goals per game.
Justin is 18th in total points with 169
Justin is 21st in scoring with 24.1 points per game average

Oneonta State's Jack Dignan is 16th with 6.2 assists per game
Jack is 37th with 2.60 steals per game

Oswego State's Brian Sortino is 34th in total points with 152

Buffalo State's Michael Henry is 23rd with 4.0 Offensive rebounds per game.

Geneseo State's Charlie Zaepfel is 18th with 41 total assists
Charlie is 26th with 5.9 assists per game

Cortland State's Blair Estarfaa is 39th with 3.33 made 3 point field goals per game

Buffalo State's Nico McLean is 16th with 3.0 steals per game
Nico is 28th in the minutes per game category with 36.2
Nico is 33rd in the nation with 18 total steals
 
New Paltz State's RJ Rosa is 24th with 19 steals
RJ is 30th  with 2.71 steals per game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2015, 12:50:47 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 08, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 12:07:37 AM
Latest top 25 rankings by D3Hoops out today!

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week2

East - NYU at #14, St John Fisher at #24, Oswego at #32 and Geneseo at #54!

So you know in a Top 25... Oswego and Geneseo thus don't have ranking numbers, right ;)... just ORV. :p


Bengalsrule,
This is how you should have responded to Dave's post:

Dave,

How come I've never seen you go here:  http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4097.9390
and tell that to Darryl.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 08, 2015, 11:46:40 AM
My biased opinion says Brockport should be receiving votes!  ;D I guess the loss to Rochester did them in.
I'm feeling you pg04. I was sure that my BENGALS would get at least 1 vote after beating then #25 Oswego by 10 and also Hobart, the week before (ORV ranking last week) by 20.  Looks like the Cortland buzzer beater did us in. Oh well. The later the ranking the better!

Quote from: magicman on December 08, 2015, 05:01:39 AM
So for the 2nd week in a row the magicman's Player of the Week Award is a joint affair with Kyle Richardson and Justin Ringen winning the weekly prize. Great efforts on the part of both players and I hope they have a few more of those stashed in the bank, that they will be able to draw upon as needed. Congratulations guys.

Note to Kyle and Justin... the magicman's weekly award is much more prestigious than the SUNYAC's weekly award. Just ask him the next time you see him and he will explain why!  ;D     
 

I'm feeling you O.W.M.1.   . But you gotta come up with a better name for your weekly award. Maybe "Magics P.O.W."? Or the "Abacadabra P.O.W." ( get it abacadabra = magic  :-[ ::) ) or maybe even  the SUNYAC's "Magical team of the week" ( to compare to the D3HOOPS team of the week, which both Ringen and Richardson, should" have also gotten some strong consideration. )  I'm sure that dcahill, Jdex, all-time and Pg04 would even help in the voting for team of the week (count me in too). Something tells me that your wish from SUNYAC will fall on a few deaf ears (other than Fran's)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 08, 2015, 12:50:47 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 08, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 12:07:37 AM
Latest top 25 rankings by D3Hoops out today!

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week2

East - NYU at #14, St John Fisher at #24, Oswego at #32 and Geneseo at #54!

So you know in a Top 25... Oswego and Geneseo thus don't have ranking numbers, right ;)... just ORV. :p


Bengalsrule,
This is how you should have responded to Dave's post:

Dave,

How come I've never seen you go here:  http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4097.9390
and tell that to Darryl.  ;D

   I have no desire to irritate/question Dave. He has been the best responder to any of my D3hoops questions on these boards (other than O.W.M.1)!  Something tells me that, when all is said and done, the 'Yac will get its due as the season goes on. Especially after the holiday tourneys. Some of those tourneys are shaping up to have some pretty decent competition. I know the BENGALS are in a tourney at Lehman College ("Coaches vs. Cancer"). Their 1st round opponent is 1 of the hottest teams in the country ( currently on a 5 game winning streak) from the NJAC, New Jersey City College (5-2, 3-0 NJAC, last week beat ORV Williams Patterson). If they win that game then they could face host Lehman college (5-2,2-0 in CUNY, has won 5 of last 6) and Lehman hosts #18 Brooklyn college this weekend! Or my BENGALS could face Western Conn ( 5-1, 1-0 in the LEC, on a 5 game win streak) in the 2nd round of the Coaches vs. Cancer tourney if they, W.Conn, beat Lehman in round 1.

   As we speak that's 4 teams with a combined D3 record of (4-1, 5-2, 5-2 and 5-1) 19 - 6.  If everyone holds serve, over the next 2 weeks, then I'm looking at 4 teams with a combined record of 28-6 at this "tourney". Add Brockport who faces #11 John Carroll in Daytona (must be nice that time of year), in addition to the list of tournaments that Magicman presented up earlier , and there are quite a few SUNYAC schools that could improve our O.O.C. Strength of schedule rankings before we begin to pummel each other! I am curious how/why Geneseo allowed a schedule to basically have them off a month (Dec 5-Jan 5) but that's there problem...not mine?!.

   Remember that this years Yac is a 3 bid conference (at the very least). Quote me!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 08, 2015, 02:46:19 PM
When my Uncle was still alive, I would go visit my Aunt and Uncle in their "winter home" in Daytona. Too bad I won't be there this year, my closest chance to see Brockport!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2015, 08:15:43 PM
A single game on tap tonight involving a SUNYAC team as New Paltz State is hosting Springfield College at 8:00 PM.

The Hawks, once again are underdogs  in their own house, They enter this game with a single win so far this season and the prospects of taking down a NEWMAC team aren't very good. Springfield doesn't appear to be as good as  they normally are with losses  in 3 of 5 games so far. But the Pride have played some decent teams and just recently took down the Trinity Bantams who are once again are favored to make some noise in the NESCAC  conference. The oddsmakers have made Springfield  7 point favorite. I see no reason to think the Hawks can improve on that forecast. I think tht the outcome will be something like an 82-72 final score. Hope I'm wrong though. Love to see New Paltz win this game.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 09:01:03 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 08, 2015, 08:15:43 PM
A single game on tap tonight involving a SUNYAC team as New Paltz State is hosting Springfield College at 8:00 PM.

The Hawks, once again are underdogs  in their own house, They enter this game with a single win so far this season and the prospects of taking down a NEWMAC team aren't very good. Springfield doesn't appear to be as good as  they normally are with losses  in 3 of 5 games so far. But the Pride have played some decent teams and just recently took down the Trinity Bantams who are once again are favored to make some noise in the NESCAC  conference. The oddsmakers have made Springfield  7 point favorite. I see no reason to think the Hawks can improve on that forecast. I think tht the outcome will be something like an 82-72 final score. Hope I'm wrong though. Love to see New Paltz win this game.

The Hawks are hanging in there. Down 44-43 with 15:31 left in the game!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 08, 2015, 10:05:05 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 08, 2015, 12:50:47 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 08, 2015, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2015, 12:07:37 AM
Latest top 25 rankings by D3Hoops out today!

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week2

East - NYU at #14, St John Fisher at #24, Oswego at #32 and Geneseo at #54!

So you know in a Top 25... Oswego and Geneseo thus don't have ranking numbers, right ;)... just ORV. :p


Bengalsrule,
This is how you should have responded to Dave's post:

Dave,

How come I've never seen you go here:  http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4097.9390
and tell that to Darryl.  ;D

Darryl knows, but he is copying from a form where he is compiling all the info... I give him some slack due to the title he puts to separate the two levels. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 12:29:42 AM
New Paltz falls to Springfield 77-69

I had the final as an 82-72 Springfield win. That score wasn't far off on either side.

Hawks up 1 at the break 35-34 and still in front by a single point at 55-54 with 8 minutes to play. The Hawks missed a 3 point attempt and the Pride came down and scored to go in front 56-55 with 7:34 left and were never headed from that point forward. They extended the lead to 5 points by the 6:12 mark and when the Hawks committed a series of turnovers the lead reached double figures at 67-57 with 3:43 left to play. The Hawks had gone over 5 minutes without a field goal and the Pride made them pay. The closest they could get was 7 points and Springfield claimed the victory.

RJ Rosa was the top score for the Hawks with 17 points and 5 assists, while Nick Paquette tossed in 15 markers. Eric Regenbogen came off the bench to score 11 points, grab 3 boards and dish out 4 assists. Brandon Guest had 9 points and led the team with 11 rebounds.

New Paltz drops their 7th straight game and falls to 1-7 (0-2 SUNYAC) They will be off until January 2nd when they take on Kean University at 1:00 PM.

Springfield placed 4 guys in double figures led by 18 points each from Josh Altman and Alex Garstka. Josh Downes had 16 and Andy McNulty had 10.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2015, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 09, 2015, 12:29:42 AM
New Paltz falls to Springfield 77-69

Damn. Would have been a decent win for our conference. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 09, 2015, 11:39:04 AM
2 teams in action tonight from the SUNYAC

Cortland all over Elmira

Oneonta wins a close one against Williams after a lackluster performance against Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 09, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
All-Time......What?!  When was it played.  Thought it was around 7 PM tonight?
Was going to ask the Magicman about the SUNY team.  Strange if it was played since the post by All-Time was posted before Noon today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 09, 2015, 12:30:43 PM
amh63
Heading out of town on business.
Wanted to get my predictions in early.
They are being played tonight.
Enjoy the games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 09, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
All-Time......What?!  When was it played.  Thought it was around 7 PM tonight?
Was going to ask the Magicman about the SUNY team.  Strange if it was played since the post by All-Time was posted before Noon today.

Hmmm. Magicman asleep at the wheel???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2015, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 09, 2015, 11:39:04 AM
2 teams in action tonight from the SUNYAC

Cortland all over Elmira

Oneonta wins a close one against Williams after a lackluster performance against Plattsburgh.

A Oneonta win over Williams would be a nice shot in the arm for the Yac!!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 09, 2015, 12:51:54 PM
Bengalsrule
The Magicman is never asleep at the wheel.
He's probably getting all his information together before he makes his predictions.

By the way Great win Saturday against Oswego after a very tough loss against Cortland Friday night.

I see 7 tough teams vying for 6 spots and on any given night you better come to play or else.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 02:11:11 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 09, 2015, 11:50:23 AM
All-Time......What?!  When was it played.  Thought it was around 7 PM tonight?
Was going to ask the Magicman about the SUNY team.  Strange if it was played since the post by All-Time was posted before Noon today.

Hmmm. Magicman asleep at the wheel???

If that's what you think perhaps you should look elsewhere for the answers to all your many inquiries. I'm surprised that a veteran of this board, like yourself, would even intimate that I'm asleep at the wheel. Even someone new to these boards like All-Time, knows the magicman is never asleep at the wheel. In fact as amh63 implied recently "magicman do you EVER sleep?" MY reply to him was..."Rust never sleeps...neither does the magicman"

As I told All-Time when he first came on this board...pay no attention to that Bengalsrule guy behind the curtain. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 06:49:25 PM
Two games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC.

Williams   at  Oneonta State     7:00 PM

The Williams Ephs invade Dewar Arena and will be looking for some revenge for the opening game loss they suffered against Oneonta last year in Williamstown. The oddsmakers have made the Ephs a 3 point road favorite in this contest. They come into the game with a 5-1 record after dropping their last contest to NESCAC foe Wesleyan, by a 58-56 score. I think tonight's game will be a close game but I think that Oneonta has played a tougher schedule and will walk off their home court with a hard fought 74-70 victory. 

   
Elmira  at  Cortland State   7:30 PM

The Elmira Soaring Eagles haven's beaten Cortland since November 25, 2008 and that was the only time in the past 10 years they have done so. They have, however, almost pulled off some memorable upsets, most recently in 2012, when Elmira lost on opening day, 63-60, to a Red Dragon squad that would post a 24-5 record while sweeping the regular season and Championship of the SUNYAC. This year the Soaring Eagles are off to a slow start with a 1-5 record, while the Red Dragons reverse that with a 5-1 log. The oddsmakers have made the spread in this game a double digit 14 point margin. Cortland should win by 20. Final score in this one should be something like... Cortland 85 Elmira 64     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 07:37:06 PM
Oneonta leads Williams 38-28 at the half. Red Dragons with the lead for most of the period, go up by double digits with 5 minutes left and stay in front. Basket at buzzer by Oneonta waved off with a traveling call.

Mikey McElroy with 11 points and Jackson Zuvucwith 10 to lead Oneonta. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2015, 08:04:50 PM
Cortland 42-33 over Elmira at the half. RDragons  with 20 bench points and lead by 11 on two occasions. Elmira starts hot and shoots over 50 percent from the field. H. Harkins 9 pts(3x4 3s), G. Leonardi 12 pts(2x4 3s).  Corts' J. Cooper and A. McGuire land treys to help hosts take control with four-minutes left in the period. Cooper and B. Estarfaa with nine points apiece for Cortland

Elmira hanging around six-minutes into the second half ......down by six before Cortland goes on 16-3 run led by Estarfaa, G. Carter, Martinez, Cooper for 61-45 edge at 10' mark.

Familiar figure officiating  is Syracusan Mike Kitts. Used to work many a D3 game till going bigtime in several major conferences. Drew the big games and was constantly on teevee. A good one. Now it's Pat Driscoll of Syracuse often seen. He, too, with a college start at D3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 08:17:43 PM
Crunch time in Oneonta and the Red Dragons lead 66-59 with 2:30 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 08:44:19 PM
jdex,

Were you able to watch the Cortland game on a webcast? Numerous times I clicked on the video link and I got a video showing the score 11-10. I would get 20 seconds of video and then it would freeze up. Every time I would get the video at the same point in the game. I got the live stats OK but no video . Just wondering if it was alright on your end? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2015, 09:00:02 PM
Cortland conquers guest Elmira 80-66 with a bit of uneasiness. Nine point halftime lead quickly shrinks to 42-39 and Soaring Eagles still close till 16-3 RDragons breakaway and 61-45 margin midway through the second half. Elmira's J. Porrett connects twice to pull his side within 67-61 at 3:37. B. Estarfaa answers with 3-pointer in quick fashion and finds his shooting eye. Corts finish at the stripe. Both sides shoot 50 percent from the floor -- iidentical 28x56 but CSt 12x27 3s to Elmira 7x24. Estarfaa with 25 pts(8x15fg, 5x9 3s) in 31', Oswego transfer J. Cooper 14 pts(5x7fg, 6 rebs) in 27'; G. Carter 12 pts(5x7fg) in 30', JP Reagan 6 pts, 6 rebs in limited 21' play. Elmira's H. Harkins 17 pts (5x10 3s) in 34' G. Leonardi 14 pts in 34'; Porrett 11 pts(5x7fg)

Cortland 6-1, Elmira 1-6

Video apparently down early in the first half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 09:11:57 PM
Oneonta defeats Williams by a 75-62 final score.

I had the Red Dragons winning this game by a 74-70 score and if Williams had made a few baskets once they started fouling it would have been closer on their end.

Oneonta, up by 10 at the half, never trailed in the 2nd period. Williams made some runs to get it to a single possession game on several occasions, but each time they did, Oneonta would respond with a surge of their own, to open up some daylight. The Ephs were within 4 points at 66-62, with 1:25 left to play, when Bobby Casey made a 3 pointer, but Ian Shupp answered with a huge 3 pointer for the Red Dragons to make it a 7 point lead with 54 seconds left to play. Casey missed another attempt at a triple and the Ephs fouled to stop the clock. Oneonta went 6 for 6 from the line to close this one out.

Mikey McElroy led Oneonta with 19 points and 5 rebounds.Lawrence Coleman had 17 points with 7 rebounds, while Jackson Zuvic added 12 points and 3 steals. Ian Shupp had 10 points off the bench and was 2x2 from long distance. Seth Thompson had 8 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Jack Dignan had 7 assists, 5 rebounds and 3 points.

The Red Dragons outshot the Ephs from the field, from long range and from the line. They outrebounded the taller Williams squad by a 32-28 margin but had 12 turnovers to only 9 for Williams.

I thought this was one of the better officiated games I have watched all year as the refs let them play and the game had a good flow. Only 12 fouls called on Williams and 13 on Oneonta. I've been at several games already that had more than 30 fouls called in the first half.

Williams got 16 points each from Daniel Aronowitz and Kyle Scadlock. Aronowitz also led the Ephs with 7 rebounds and 3 assists, while Scadlock had 6 boards. Bobby Casey had 14 points and 3 assists.

Oneonta improves to 4-2 (1-1 SUNYAC) and will be back in action on Sunday 12-13 at 2:00 PM when they host St. John Fisher.

Williams slips to 5-2 and will host Springfield College on Saturday 12-12 at 4:00 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2015, 11:12:08 PM
Cortland 80   Elmira 66

I had the Red Dragons winning by an 85-64 final. I was close on both ends but needed a bit more juice from the Cortland side. 3-0 with my forecasts for the week.


Updating the SUNYAC non-conference record of all games through December 9th

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents 30-21   (includes 3 games against non-DIII teams. Buff State has 1 win and 1 loss against 2 schools that are not members of the NCAA, Geneseo has 1 loss against Roberts Wesleyan that won't count )


SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference NCAA DIII Teams     29-19  (Top 7 schools are 27-4. Bottom 3 schools are 2-15)                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                     

magicman's predictions all games (includes conference games)    46-13 (77.9%)
SUNYAC games         6-2     


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on December 09, 2015, 11:51:51 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 09, 2015, 08:04:50 PM

Familiar figure officiating  is Syracusan Mike Kitts. Used to work many a D3 game till going bigtime in several major conferences. Drew the big games and was constantly on teevee. A good one. Now it's Pat Driscoll of Syracuse often seen. He, too, with a college start at D3

Jdex, it was actually Mike Kitts' son, Michael, who was one of the officials tonight.

And my apologies for our video issues. Not sure what happened. We're going to try to have video on Dec. 19, but then may not have it for the first three home games in January due to semester-break staffing issues.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 10, 2015, 09:51:20 AM
Magicman....pretty good " calls " on your Red Dragon schools :). 
Considering this time of the year....your "work place" must look like mission control :)
Worried about your well being though....your friends/ admirers will understand if you make a wrong call and forget a write up. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2015, 09:52:47 AM
Geez, just one more poke that we're getting a bit long in the tooth  .......talk about old sayings ....yikes!!!  But if we had the video we would have known that. Mike -- the old man, has a dome like ours.  Thanks for the reminder, Fran, and the facts. You're the king there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2015, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 10, 2015, 09:52:47 AM
Geez, just one more poke that we're getting a bit long in the tooth  .......talk about old sayings ....yikes!!!  But if we had the video we would have known that. Mike -- the old man, has a dome like ours.  Thanks for the reminder, Fran, and the facts. You're the king there.

Well, you did once say that you were older than dirt. :D  Fran doesn't miss a trick. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 10, 2015, 09:51:20 AM
Magicman....pretty good " calls " on your Red Dragon schools :). 
Considering this time of the year....your "work place" must look like mission control :)
Worried about your well being though....your friends/ admirers will understand if you make a wrong call and forget a write up.

If Magicman misses a prediction then I'm calling Saratoga Police dept.  I gotta assume that he's stuck in their racino on a hot streak and just lost track of time! 

Good to see All- time posting some predictions too!!😃
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2015, 04:28:38 PM
Don't want to get away from what the men are doing in the 'Yac but over on the women's side of the brackett you have a 2 person race for Player of the year that can only be described as biblical.

2 players, Brittany (Yac says "Britt" but that's NOT her name that her dad/mom gave her) Perry of Buffalo State and Devona Paul are locked in a statistical race that I have never seen before , on the Men's and/or Women's side.  How's this for a early 'Yac POY contest? In Scoring Perry is #4 (16.0) and Paul is #1 (22.8), Rebounding Perry #4 (10.1) and Paul #2 (10.2), Fg% Perry #6 (.430%) & Paul #3 (.518%), Ft% Perry #6 (.745%) & Paul #3 (.879), Assists Perry #2 (3.7), Assists/turnover ratio Perry # 6, Blocks Paul #6, Steals Perry #1 and Mins played Perry #3 & Paul #2.  That's 9 categories, OUT of 11,  where at least Perry or Paul is ranked and 5 where they both are ranked in the top 10.

Something tells me that the headliner on Jan 9th will still be Lovell Smith/Nico McLean/Jordan Glover & co. vs. Kyle Richardson/Ed Correa/Xavier Thomas & friends, however I know that, If I'm fortunate enough to make the ride up to the north country, I'm gonna try and get to Memorial Hall earlier for the "undercard" of Perry vs. Paul. Sounds like a "P & P" production?! ;)   Heck with a match up like that who needs Rousey Vs. Holm?

P.s. I would have put this on the SUNYAC women's side however other than Dave announcing his last Hoopsville, there hasn't been a post on those boards since Feb of 2012 (DAMN SHAME!!) >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 11, 2015, 11:34:56 AM
Cortland loses Z. Lydon for the season to knee injury. Had missed the last three games. Reportedly red-shirts. Should make travel connections a bit easier for the Lydon family whose T. Lydon is certainly becoming known as Syracuse frosh.

Was earlier reported 6-6 J. Prendergast could be returning to RDragons for second semester action. Prendergast came along quickly last winter as a freshman. Has been nursing an injury

And on a sad note from those central New Yorkers of age who remember the rollicking days of the Nats. Dolph 'Dolly' Schayes has passed
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 11, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2015, 04:28:38 PM

P.s. I would have put this on the SUNYAC women's side however other than Dave announcing his last Hoopsville, there hasn't been a post on those boards since Feb of 2012 (DAMN SHAME!!) >:(

Outside of Football and (some boards in) Men's Basketball, the rest are pretty dry. Unfortunately. I wanted the hockey board to have more action but no one has really posted there since I did in November.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2015, 06:53:27 PM
Sorry to hear about Zach Lydon at Cortland missing this season with the knee injury. Hope he rehabs and comes back stronger than ever. Cortland still a force to be reckoned with in the YAC.

Was sad to read  about Dolph Schayes yesterday.  He was a legend and will be missed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2015, 07:18:10 PM
Only 1 game on the schedule tonight.

Cazenovia @ Oswego State  7:30 PM

The Wildcats haven't had much luck against the Lakers over the years. Over the past 9 years they have met 8 times and the Lakers have outscored Cazenovia in those 8 games by 258 points. That's an average of 32 ppg that the Wildcats manage to lose by.  I'm surprised that the oddsmakers have only made Oswego a 17 point favorite but then again the Lakers haven't exactly been dominating teams that they should.  Cazenovia hung with Morrisville and Oswego barely beat the Mustangs 61-59 so maybe Cazenovia will make this one interesting. My crystal ball says they won't and the Lakers win by 20. Final score 84-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 11, 2015, 09:06:33 PM
Call me encouraged after seeing the latest Massey ratrings (if you don't what that is Magic will explain  :D).

Of the 3 Eastern conferences (SUNYAC, Empire 8 and Liberty League), there are a combined 10 teams ranked in the top 105 teams. Of that 10...... 7 are from the SUNYAC, 1 from Liberty League and 2 from the Empire 8. If we, the SUNYAC continue to win our non-conference games in Dec. (and early Jan) then that should bode well when the committee is looking to award some "pool C" (at large bids).

For the 'Yac that means that 70% of their teams are in the top 25% of the nation (420 teams ranked, thats why my cut off was 105). I'm no expert but the 1 good thing about December is that no Yac teams play each other. Any OOC  win is good for us this time of year and great wins (i.e Plattsburgh beating #17 Trinity on 1/4, Brockport beating #11 John Carroll on 12/29 and Oneonta beating #24 St John Fisher Sunday... just to name a few)  plus  the rest of the 'Yac holding serve vs. their OOC teams, could only enhance our, the SUNYAC's, standing. Add the fact that the SUNYAC, which 3 weeks ago was the 27th ranked conference in the nation, is now ranked in the top 10 (#10) of conferences (out of 47 conferences), and it appears that the 'Yac is "nearly " back!!

SUNYAC teams (with rankings in parenthesis) Plattsburgh (28), Oswego (39), Geneseo (41), Brockport (50), Cortland (70), Oneonta (89) and BUFFALO STATE (101)
Empire 8 teams St John Fisher (80) and Ithaca (103)
Liberty League Skidmore (20)

Add another "potential" 'yac  win for Oswego, which is leading 71-48 with 2 mins left!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2015, 10:48:45 PM
Final score from Oswego.

Oswego 75  Cazenovia 50

No surprises here as the Lakers take care of business, but it took them a while to put the Wildcats away. The Lakers were up by 12 points at the half 38-26, but Cazenovia quickly cut that lead to 8 points and still kept the lead to single digits with 7 minutes gone by in the 2nd period. The Lakers finally turned up the heat when a pair of Keith Tyson layups, sandwiched a Mykelle Krecko jumper, to put the lead at 14 and rising with 10 minutes left to play. Walter Sampson scored on a drive and followed that with a 3 pointer to offset a triple from Cazenovia. Then Oswego's Matt Crockett buried another triple and Brian Sortino sunk a pair of freebies. The lead was 21 and this game was over. With 8 minutes remaining the Lakers put on the automatic pilot and cruised to the win.

Sortino led the Lakers with 15 points and 3 rebounds. Kyle Covely was close behind with 14 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds. Walter Sampson had 12 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. 6'10" Mykelle Krecko with 12 minutes off the bench had his biggest night yet in an Oswego uniform. He entered the game as relief for Mark Candelario who was hit with his 4th foul and 13:50 left to play.  Krecko scored 9 points , grabbed 5 rebounds and had 3 blocks all during the crucial time span when Oswego put this game away. Krecko has seen very little court time this year, which has surprised me, but he looked good tonight and may be the start of something good for the big man. Candelario led the Lakers with 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and a steal.

Ryan Gavin was the leading scorer in the game with 18 points and topped the Wildcat with 8 rebounds. Avery Wilmore added 10 points and 6 assists.

Oswego outshot the Wildcats from the field and from long range. They also won the battle of the boards 40-35 and only had 8 turnovers to 14 for the Wildcats. Cazenovia did have a better night from the line than the Lakers did, percentage wise, but Oswego got to the line more often and made 12 free throws to 11 for Cazenovia.

I said the Lakers would win this game by 20 points and while they didn't hit the 84 points I predicted they would get, they could have... but chose to let off on the gas in the latter stages of the game. They did cover my point spread though, winning by a quarter of a century.

Oswego improves to 8-1 (1-1 SUNYAC) and will now be off for the next 3 and a half weeks until they travel to Oneonta for a game with the Red Dragons at 7:30 PM on Jnauary 5th.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 11, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
Does this mean a Christmas break for Magicman??? ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2015, 12:36:41 AM
Quote from: pg04 on December 11, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
Does this mean a Christmas break for Magicman??? ;D

I could be wrong but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that " the Magicman takes no time off as long as Sunyac/Plattsburgh hoops are going on!"  I could be wrong but I doubt it!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2015, 06:16:36 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2015, 12:36:41 AM
Quote from: pg04 on December 11, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
Does this mean a Christmas break for Magicman??? ;D

I could be wrong but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that " the Magicman takes no time off as long as Sunyac/Plattsburgh hoops are going on!"  I could be wrong but I doubt it!!!

There are no games on  December 23rd, 24th, 25th and 26th. There will be, however, stats to catch up on and future games to reconnoiter. Then this prestidigitator has to continue his preparation for the challenges presented by the D3 National Pick 'Em League, the LEC Pick 'Em League, the National One and Done Saturday Night League, The Futures NCAA Fantasy League, the upcoming NCAA Tournament Fantasy League Draft and the Sweet Sixteen League Draft, all leagues that he is a member of.

The break will come on March 20th. ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2015, 10:36:02 AM
Three games on the schedule for today, December 12th

Alfred  @  Buffalo State    2:00 PM

The Saxons invade the Sports Arena and bring with them an inconsistent 4-2 record. They gave Geneseo a down to the wire battle losing to the Knights 81-78 on a neutral court back on Nov.20th. Yet they dropped a double digit decision to YAC cellar dweller Fredonia on December 1st by an 82-69 margin. Their 4 wins have come against lesser competition with 3 of those schools combining for a 5-19 won-loss record. The Bengals also have a 4-2 record but those 4 wins have been against decidedly stiffer opponents. Three of those 4 wins, Nazareth, Hobart, and Oswego State, were teams with undefeated records, prior to their game against the Bengals.

The oddsmakers had made the Bengals a 6 point favorite coming into this game. I will be surprised if the Saxons can keep it that close. I'm taking the Bengals to win this track meet by a 88-76 final score. 



Potsdam State  @  St. Lawrence        4:00 PM

The Bears, with a 1-6 record, travel to Canton to tackle the other Liberty League rival in the immediate vicinity. Potsdam got in the win column last weekend against New Paltz, ending a 20 game losing streak, and now look to win back to back games for the first time since February 8th 2013. The Bears have dropped the last 2 games in this series and are only 2-7 in the past 9 years.

The Saints are on a 2 game winning streak and enter this game with a 3-4 record. They have won back to back games over Empire 8 teams, Elmira and Ithaca, with both wins coming on the road. So while they would be 2-0 in the E8 conference they are currently 0-3 in the SUNYAC having lost to Oswego, Brockport and Plattsburgh State. This marks their last chance to get a win against a YAC team in what looks to be their final non-conference game of the year. They also would like to even that non-con slate to a 4-4 mark.

The oddsmakers have made the Saints a solid 12 point favorite here and I have no reason to think that's off the mark. Clarkson has already defeated the Bears twice this year, most recently by 21 points in the Golden Knight's house. I have seen both Clarkson and St Lawrence play this year and I think the Saints are a better team than the Knights. If St. Lawrence can beat Ithaca by 10 at Ithaca then they can beat the Bears by 15 at home in Burkman Gym. SLU 80 Potsdam 65   


Plattsburgh State     @  Middlebury        4:00 PM

This is the featured game of the day as the Cardinals travel to the Green Mountain State to renew their rivalry with the Middlebury Panthers. Middlebury and Plattsburgh both lost a fair amount of talent to graduation, but  the Cardinals were hit much harder, losing 4 starters from last years game against the Panthers. They also lost 2 other players in the rotation including their top bench player. And more importantly the Panthers won that matchup last year in Plattsburgh by 10 points. Both teams brought in some decent recruits however, with Middlebury getting quality minutes from their 3 freshman newcomers and the Cardinals getting major contibutions from 5 different new faces on the team.

The teams have had 3 common opponents in Skidmore, St. Lawrence and New Paltz. The Panthers  are 1-2 having the lone win against New Paltz, while the Cards are 2-1 with wins against St. Lawrence and New Paltz. Both teams lost to Skidmore in Saratoga with the Panthers playing a better game against the Thoroughbreds than the Cardinals did. The Panthers also have the benefit of 9 games under their belt going 4-5 while the Cardinals have only played 5 contests to date and sport a 4-1 record.

Surprisingly the oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 4 point road favorite in this game and I'm not sure why. If the guy who made that point spread knew what I know, he would probably make the Panthers a 7 point favorite. Plattsburgh State will be shorthanded today and that could pose problems in more ways than one.

The Panthers have owned the Cardinals in this series over the past 7 years going 6-1 with the last Cardinal victory coming in Pepin Gym on January 7th, 2014. Previous to that you had to go all the way back to February 5th, 2008 to find another Plattsburgh win. The Cardinals did run off a stretch of 5 of 6 from 2003 through that 2008 win. Since the turn of the century the Panthers have 7 wins to 6 for the Cards. I think this is the year we catch the Panthers and tie this series up, so despite all the reasons why the Cardinals should lose this game I'm taking them to win a hard fought contest by a 71-67 final score.   
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 12, 2015, 10:51:50 AM
Magicman .....will you be in Pepin?  May look you up... On the big screen that is....when I get the opportunity.  If so, wear a funny hat or something obnoxious, like a Purple sweatshirt!  The home crowd would love that ;D.
Still trying to figure out "RUST"..... By the way, Amherst will play a school with the name Rust!  Truly, during their trip South over the Holidays...other game will be with Rhodes.
By the way, why does your school have a late start?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2015, 11:19:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2015, 06:16:36 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2015, 12:36:41 AM
Quote from: pg04 on December 11, 2015, 11:04:11 PM
Does this mean a Christmas break for Magicman??? ;D

I could be wrong but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that " the Magicman takes no time off as long as Sunyac/Plattsburgh hoops are going on!"  I could be wrong but I doubt it!!!

There are no games on  December 23rd, 24th, 25th and 26th. There will be, however, stats to catch up on and future games to reconnoiter. Then this prestidigitator has to continue his preparation for the challenges presented by the D3 National Pick 'Em League, the LEC Pick 'Em League, the National One and Done Saturday Night League, The Futures NCAA Fantasy League, the upcoming NCAA Tournament Fantasy League Draft and the Sweet Sixteen League Draft, all leagues that he is a member of.

The break will come on March 20th. ;D     

Nuff said!   ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 12, 2015, 12:39:08 PM
Love Buffalo State, Plattsburgh and St. Lawrence today.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Final score Buffalo State 83  Alfred 75

That was fairly close to my 88-76 prediction.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
amh63

I did not go to the Middlebury game  as planned. None of my traveling companions could make it today and i didn't want to make the trip by myself. Staying home and watching it on my big screen TV hook up off my computer feed.

Rust never sleeps... as in things made of metal continue to rust, day or night, because rust never sleeps just keeps on rusting things away. And like rust...the magicman never sleeps. ;D   Also "Rust Never Sleeps" was the title of a Neil Young album back in the day. Here's a link to that classic record from 1979.
http://www.amazon.com/Never-Sleeps-Young-Crazy-Horse/dp/B000002KDG

What do you mean by my school having a late start? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 12, 2015, 04:46:03 PM
Magicman
Right now you are lucky you didn't make the trip.
Plattsburgh is getting spanked right now in the 1st half.
They better wake up for the 2nd half or this will be a blowout.
Lets go CARDINALS.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 12, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
Magicman,
Where is Ed Correa? Is he hurt?
Obviously not the same team without him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2015, 05:25:23 PM
2 words to describe today's game... UGLY WIN!!!!  Give Alfred some credit for that , however some of the BENGALS performance was tough to watch. After only having 4 turnovers at halftime the BENGALS proceeded to turn the ball over 6 times in the first 5 mins of the 2nd half, leading to 18 turnovers for the game. And after being out rebounded by 7 Alfred by 7 at half...it didn't get much better in the 2nd half. And to add insult to injury, after the  BENGALS are up by 11 with a little over 5 mins left in the game, Buff State gives up 3 3 pointers to Alfred and a 66-55 score was now 73 all at the 1:14 mark. Fortunately for BSC, Alfred (Julian Reinhart) committed a foul (after their last 3 pt make) and then got also got called  for a technical foul (on Reinhart for slamming the ball after he got called for a foul) in which Jordan Glover and Freshman Ryniek Holloway both knocked down 2 each. In fact 8 of the last 10 BENGAL points came by way of the free throw line!

Something tells me that some of our boys were already on vacation before this game started. And it showed. Off until after Xmas when BSC faces New jersey City (7-2, 5-0 in NJAC....on a 7 game win streak  :P) in the Lehman College Coaches vs Cancer tourney!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2015, 06:23:49 PM
Yac goes 1-2 today with Plattsburgh and Potsdam loses!  Hopefully Oneonta can pull off the W tomorrow vs St John Fisher! to give the 'Yac a 50% weekend!! If Potsdam can take care of Canton too then we are looking at a 60% weekend!! The Cards without Correa is just different team. Hopefully he will be back before their southern journey to South Beach, where they will face Stevenson next Saturday!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2015, 07:50:52 PM
Final score Middlebury 71 Plattsburgh State 49

Probably the worst game I've ever seen a Plattsburgh State team play. Certainly glad I didn't drive back and forth to watch this one. At least I saved myself 4 hours of driving time  and 35 bucks in gas.  Plus my Middlebury friends would have been giving me the business for about 30 of the 40 minutes during the game.

Plattsburgh was short handed today as one player was injured and 2 others missed the game because of sickness this week. But that's no excuse for the sloppy play and lack of concentration that I witnessed in this game. Passes were telegraphed, and the Middlebury players took full advantage. Passes were forced, resulting in more turnovers. Fast breaks appeared plentiful.

When the Cardinals broke out to a 8-2 lead the Panthers coach quickly took a time out and brought out a zone defense. Plattsburgh reacted like they had never seen one. The Panthers went on a 19-3 run and just like that it was a double digit 21-11 lead. I kept waiting for the Cardinals to respond with a run of their own. Soon I was waiting for the Cardinals to score a basket. After a 3 pointer by Eli Bryant cut the lead to 7 at 23-16 with just under 4 minutes left in the half I had hopes of the game tightening up. Instead the opposite happened and the Panthers went on another 13-1 spurt to end the half and the score stood at 36-19.

Things got no better in the 2nd half. Needing to come out of the break with a renewed effort to get back into this game, the Cardinals instead couldn't buy a basket and went over 6 minutes without a field goal while the Panthers ran off another 16-1 outburst.  The score was 52-18 and if it was a fight, the ref would have stopped it.

Plattsburgh committed 20 turnovers to only 12 for the Panthers, and Middlebury got 22 fast break points to 8 for the Cardinals. The Panthers shot 41.3%, 31x75, while the Cards shot 27.3%, 18x66. Plattsburgh had 52 rebounds to 51 for Middlebury.   

Middlebury has 13 players on their roster and all of them broke into the scoring column. It was the Matts night out as Matt St. Amour led all scorers with 19 points and Matt Daley was next with 12 markers. Daley led the Panthers with 8 rebounds.

Eli Bryant was the leading pointgetter forthe Cardinals with 18 points and Kyle Richardson was the top rebounder in the game with 12 boards. Xavier Thomas had 8 rebounds and 9 points.

The local paper said that the Cardinals were going for their fourth straight win over the Panthers today...boy are they wrong. The last time we won Two in a row was 2006-2007 and 2007-2008, and we didn't even win last year so I'm not sure where that reporter pulled his 4 in a row, line from.

The local Burlington/Plattsburgh TV news came on a while ago and showed the highlights of the game. They show a Plattsburgh player making a 3 pointer and states that so and so nails a 3 pointer to keep the Cardinals within shouting distance. The 3 pointer made the score 60-31 I guess his idea of shouting distance is a 29 point deficit. The local media need to visit this website if they want the real facts. ;D

I said a couple of weeks ago after the Skidmore loss, that this year would be a work in progress for the Cardinals. Today that became painfully obvious once again. Congrats to Middlebury, I guess we bring out the best in them.

Plattsburgh drops to 4-2 and is now off until next weekend, when the team travels to Miami Florida to take on Stevenson University at 2:00 PM, on Saturday the 19th. The next day they will play UMass-Dartmouth at 3:00 PM.

Middlebury evens their record at 5-5 and will take a break until after the New Year, when they travel to Endicott for a Saturday, January 2nd matchup at 2:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2015, 08:40:39 AM
St. Lawrence 81 Potsdam State 69

This one went much like it was expected to. The oddsmakers  favored the Saints by 12 points and that was exactly the margin they won by. I had the score as an 80-65 SLU victory. Pretty close on both ends. Potsdam was lucky to keep it that close but the Bears' Joe Estramonte was on fire from long distance. He went 10x16 from the field and 9 of those made field goals were bombs. I wonder if he had his foot on the line for that 10th shot that went in. It was a jumper and was the very first shot he took, that gave the Bears a 2-2 tie 

Teams played a close first half for the most part with Estramonte going 5 for 5 from behind the arc to keep the Bears close. He had 17 of Potsdam's 29 first half points. Up by 1, at 26-25, with 7 minutes left, the Saints went on a 9-0 run to jump in front by double digits. They managed to keep that margin for the rest of the period and went into the locker room up 39-29 at the break.

Estramonte opened the 2nd half much like he left off the first, with another long bomb 24 seconds into the period. The Bears' hopes to cut into the Saints lead, however, took a hit when another 10-4 run put the Saints up by 13. Back came Estramonte with another triple to stop the bleeding, but the Saints got a jumper and a couple of long balls of their own from Riley Naclerio and Kyle Edwards to build the lead to the largest of the game at 57-39 with 14:19 left to play.

Potsdam refused to fold, and behind a pair of jumpers by Vincent Smythe along with a pair of free throws by Josh Blagrove, the Bears made it a 2 possession game at 65-60 with 5:36 remaining. The Saints' Kieran Miller  and Ben Crawford would have none of that however as they both sandwiched a pair of buckets around a Blagrove layup. The lead was back to 11 and not even Estramonte's 9th 3 pointer with 1:23 left had much of an impact on the final result. The Saints were perfect from the line in the final minute to close out the Bears.

St Lawrence was led by Ben Crawford with 20 points and 6 rebounds. Naclerio had a double-double of 14 points and a game high of 10 rebounds. Willie Zachery added 13 points, 7 assists and 4 rebounds off the bench. Kyle Kobis had 9 points, 7 rebounds and 5 assists.

Potsdam's Joe Estramonte may have been the smallest player on the court but he put up the biggest number as he captured scoring honors with his 29 points by hitting 9x12 from long range. The 5'8" guard also had 3 steals, 2 assists and 2 blocks. Vincent Smythe had 12 points and a team high 7 rebounds. Josh Blagrove and Nate Wyatte both had 10 points, with Wyatte getting 5 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists. Blagrove added 4 rebounds.

The Saints finally get a win in the YAC after 3 losses and improve their record to 4-4. They are off until January 8th at 8 PM when they will  host Vassar College in the opening game of their Liberty League conference play.

Potsdam is now 1-7 (1-1 SUNYAC) and is right back in action today when they play host to the undefeated Kangaroos of SUNY-Canton at 3:00 PM. 

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 13, 2015, 10:18:08 AM
Magicman.....as you so well put, watching online on a big screen is much better than live when your team is getting blown out.  I watched some of the game and sadly your team on the floor could not hit the side of a barn...but seemed to pay hard otherwise.  Did look for a group of red dressed fans with someone that had an glow surrounding him....no not Claus :).
Interesting your team is going way down South to play a Little East team and Stevenson.  Was at Stevenson in Owing Mills campus...has several campuses...early in the season to check out some teams.
Anyway, my question to Plattsburgh late start.....based on the low number of games played to date.  Nescac teams start late relative to say the Little East.  Out of conference games in the NE has the opponent with 2-3 more games.  Yes, Middlebury seems to be the exception.  They are different in other ways like their academic schedule.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2015, 10:38:34 AM
Two SUNYAC teams in action today.

#24 St. John Fisher  at  Oneonta State   2:00 PM

Big game in Oneonta today that has the Red Dragons facing the 2nd Top 25 team they will play this young season. Last month Oneonta hooked up with the current 16th ranked team, Franklin & Marshall and nearly pulled off the upset on the Diplomats home court. The Red Dragons had the lead and F&M scored with seconds left to send it to overtime. The Diplomats got lucky in the extra period and Oneonta dropped a close one. Now they get the Cardinals of St John Fisher and I hope they can fare better against these birds than they did against some other Redbirds that were recently in town.

Fisher was ranked at #10 a few short weeks ago but a pair of losses to RIT and Brockport in the recent Wendy's College Classic saw their stock tumble substantially. A loss here will drop them right out of the Top 25 so I expect them to be firing on all cylinders.

Both teams have rebounded nicely from their recent woes as the Cardinals handled fellow E8 conference member, Nazareth, by an 83-66 score to wrap up their long association with the Wendy's Classic. And the Red Dragons regained some momentum after a loss to the SUNYAC Cardinals by taking down the Williams College Ephs for the 2nd year in a row by a comfortable margin of 75-62. Both teams come in with identical  records of 4-2 and both will be playing their final game until after Christmas.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a slim 2 point road favorite so this game is basically a pick 'em. I'm not sure if Oneonta has anyone that can handle Fisher's big man, Keegan Ryan. That could well be the story of this game when it's all said and done. It's hard for me to pick the Red Dragons here, as I've watched Ryan play since his high school days, which is only a par 5 from where I live. Still I'm a SUNYAC first, prognosticator, so I'll go with my heart for the 2nd time in 2 days. (And hope that it works out better than yesterday's pick did ::)) I'll take Oneonta to beat the ranked Cardinals by a 74-71 final score       
   
SUNY-Canton  at  Potsdam State     3:00 PM

There was a time when this game signaled a sure win on the schedules of the SUNYAC conference schools. The Kangaroos were usually the team with the 1-6 or 0-5 record and the YAC school was the one that might have the undefeated record going into this game. But this is Bizarro World and the Roos enter Jerry Welch Gym with an unbeaten 7-0 record that includes 2 (count 'em... 2) wins over the Clarkson Golden Knights who have 2  (count 'em...2) wins over the Potsdam State Bears. See where I'm going with this? Canton also has wins against E8 member Utica College and NEAC member SUNYIT. They are transitioning into Division III and as yet are not a member of a conference, so they are playing an independent schedule.

The Bears struggles continue and with a 1-7 record they will have a hard time finding many opportunities to put a W on the board. This game today may be the best chance they have to find another win. The oddsmakers don't give them much chance to get a win here, however, as they have made the Roos a double digit 13 point favorite.

Bears lost yesterday to a Canton team in Canton....at St. Lawrence by an 81-69 score. Today they lose to a  Canton team in Potsdam...as the Kangaroos take this one by an 81-69 score. ;D                                                                 


P.S.  Hope I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2015, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: amh63 on December 13, 2015, 10:18:08 AM
Anyway, my question to Plattsburgh late start.....based on the low number of games played to date.  Nescac teams start late relative to say the Little East.  Out of conference games in the NE has the opponent with 2-3 more games.  Yes, Middlebury seems to be the exception.  They are different in other ways like their academic schedule.

amh63,
Regarding Plattsburgh's schedule. Always tough trying to get teams to come to Plattsburgh. Travel is a problem because of the distance, and many schools don't want to play us in our house. I could name many D3 schools that will play us but only if we go to their house. We tell them...OK we'll go to your house this year, you come to our house next year. Then we get the hemming...the hawing and finally the negative response. We have one school coming here for the first time next year but we had to go to their house last year and this year, to get that reciprocal visit. Almost every year we have to play more games on the road than we get at home. This year we have 12 home games and 13 away games. We were fortunate to get Trinity (Conn) to come here this year (we go there next year I believe) and Clarkson's new coach renewed our annual game and paid us a visit. It's even harder if you have a winning program, to get schools to come to your place if they think there's a good chance they will  get slapped with a loss.

Because of these facts Plattsburgh almost always has only 7 or 8 games before the New Year. The other factor you need to consider is that the SUNYAC conference plays a double round robin schedule. With 10 teams that means we have 18 conference games. That only leaves 7 non-conference games that we can have. Since at least 16 of those conference games come after the New Year, the most games we could have between the start of the season and the end of December is 9 games and it's usually less than that. Hope that answers your question.

Now a question for you...Do you now understand...rust never sleeps?       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 13, 2015, 12:40:24 PM
The Red Dragons of Oneonta win this one at home. I think they are too deep and Ian Schupp had this coming out party against Hartick.  He looks much more comfortable now and will be a big contributor off the bench the rest of the season.
Look for Lawrence Coleman and Mike McElroy to have big games today. Jack Dignan has done a very good job at the point and he brings the toughness on defense that they need to win this one.
Jackson Zuvic has played much more consistent this season and Seth Thompsen does all the little things that don't necessarily show up in the box score.
Oneonta 82-68 over Fisher.

Suny-Canton over Potsdam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 13, 2015, 12:51:10 PM
Magicman...Yes I Do, now with the reference to the song.  My problem is with rust, that is always changing is "inorganic" and I associate sleep with organic things..things with a soul. :).   Guess I need to Change with the Times...for they are a changing! :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2015, 01:37:53 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 13, 2015, 12:40:24 PM
The Red Dragons of Oneonta win this one at home. I think they are too deep and Ian Schupp had this coming out party against Hartick.  He looks much more comfortable now and will be a big contributor off the bench the rest of the season.
Look for Lawrence Coleman and Mike McElroy to have big games today. Jack Dignan has done a very good job at the point and he brings the toughness on defense that they need to win this one.
Jackson Zuvic has played much more consistent this season and Seth Thompsen does all the little things that don't necessarily show up in the box score.
Oneonta 82-68 over Fisher.

Suny-Canton over Potsdam.

Hmmm adding the point spread and totals to your prediction(s)?  I like it... ;)  Looks like the magic 1 has an apprentice in the works!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2015, 02:08:03 PM
Red Dragons up early on S.J.F. 14-6 with 14:51 left!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2015, 02:21:45 PM
HMMMM Dragons up 33-22 with 5 plus mins left 1st half.

Go Yac!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2015, 02:35:05 PM
46-31 at the half. Red Dragons are led by McElroys 15 pts. Oneonta starters have combined for 41 points
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
Oneonta State 77 St. John Fisher 73.

I had Oneonta winning by a 74-71 final. I was pretty darn close. Good job Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2015, 04:15:53 PM
Potsdam getting pummeled by the Kangaroos 79-52 with 5:28 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2015, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 13, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
Oneonta State 77 St. John Fisher 73.

I had Oneonta winning by a 74-71 final. I was pretty darn close. Good job Red Dragons.

Fantastic..go 'Yac!

Things that make you go hmmmm... Keegan Ryan (Magimans local prodigy), does not start today after starting every game this year, and probably last year too. Played 32 mins..but came off the bench. Punishment???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 13, 2015, 04:26:26 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 13, 2015, 04:15:53 PM
Potsdam getting pummeled by the Kangaroos 79-52 with 5:28 left in the game.

Damn!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
Final score

Canton 85  Potsdam 60

Knew the Bears were up against it when the Roos beat up on Clarkson twice. This game was never a contest as the Roos jumped out to a 27-5 lead after 10 minutes of play. Time to light up the cigar. Canton continued to pile it on and they had a 33 point lead at one point. It was 85-52 with 3:42 left and Canton never scored another point.

Potsdam falls to 1-8 and will be off until January 8th when they host Buffalo State at 7:30 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 14, 2015, 04:09:52 PM
                          Since my BENGALS are off for the next 2 weeks (plus I'm bored as hell) I thought that I would present the 1st ever (drum roll please).............


                                                                     ALL SUNYAC (PRE – XMAS TEAM)
                                                 (If the season were to end today, this is who I would have for post season awards.)

First team:
J. Ringen (Geneseo)- only player ranked in the top 10 in 7 of 9 SUNYAC categories
K. Richardson (Plattsburgh) –only player ranked in top 5 in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots- ranked top 10 in 4 categories,
N. McLean (Buffalo State) – 1 of only 2 players ranked in top 10 in at least 6 of 9 categories
J. Decker (Geneseo)– top 5 in scoring, ft%, 3 pt% and 3 pt fg made
*L. Smith (Buffalo State) – top 5 in rebounding, fg%, blocked shots and 8th in scoring & 9th in steals.
* = has only played 4 games so SUNYAC does not report statistics.  If not Lovell Smith (because he doesn't qualify in your opinion) then......
L. Coleman (Oneonta) – top 10 in 4 categories

Second team:
J. Dignan (Oneonta) – leads in assists, 2nd in assist turnover ratio & 4th in steals
J. Glover (Buffalo State) 1 of only 4 players that are ranked in top 10 in at least 5 categories
R. J. Rosa (New Paltz) – only player ranked in top 3 in 3 pt% and steals.11th in scoring
C. Lyerly (Brockport) – 3rd in scoring, 6th in ft% and 9th in rebounds
B. Estarfaa (Cortland) – top 10 in scoring, 3pt% and 3 ptrs made

Honorable mention :
M. Henry (Buffalo State) – #2 in rebounds, in fg% and 14th in scoring
H. Shamseldin (Brockport) – 5th in scoring and ft%
B. Sortino (Oswego) – 6th in scoring and 9th in ft%
C. Zaepel (Geneseo) – #2 in assists and #1 assist to turnover ratio
I Helps (Fredonia) – top 10 in rebounds and fg%. 13th in scoring
J. Estramonte (Potsdam) – top 5 in 3pt% and 3 ptrs made. 17th in scoring
W. Sampson (Oswego) – 4th in ft%, 5th in assist to turnover ratio and 6th in assists


POY: 3 way tie between Ringen  & McLean  & Richardson

All Rookie: 
D. Langley (Potsdam)
J Patron (Plattsburgh)
J. Cooper (Cortland)
N. Paquette (New Paltz)
R Holloway (Buffalo State)

ROY: Cooper - top 30 in scoring, rebounds and ft%



Next week.  "Who's finishing first in the 'Yac (or near 1st or 2nd or 3rd or.....)"?

special thanks to nescac1


Edited with apologies to Oneonta's Dignan!! :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 14, 2015, 04:37:18 PM
     
******************************NEWSFLASH**************************************
SUNYAC PLAYER OF THE WEEK

Lovell Smith, Buffalo State
Buffalo, NY / McKinley


Lovell Smith led the Bengals to an 83-75 victory over Alfred University on Saturday with 23 points and 12 rebounds, while shooting 9 of 14 from the floor. Smith also had a pair of blocked shots. He leads the Bengals, averaging 17.8 points-per-game this season.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 14, 2015, 04:09:52 PM
                          Since my BENGALS are off for the next 2 weeks (plus I'm bored as hell) I thought that I would present the 1st ever (drum roll please).............


                                                                     ALL SUNYAC (PRE – XMAS TEAM)
                                                 (If the season were to end today, this is who I would have for post season awards.)

First team:
J. Ringen (Geneseo)- only player ranked in the top 10 in 7 of 9 SUNYAC categories
K. Richardson (Plattsburgh) –only player ranked in top 5 in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots- ranked top 10 in 4 categories,
N. McLean (Buffalo State) – 1 of only 2 players ranked in top 10 in at least 6 of 9 categories
J. Decker (Geneseo)– top 5 in scoring, ft%, 3 pt% and 3 pt fg made
*L. Smith (Buffalo State) – top 5 in rebounding, fg%, blocked shots and 8th in scoring & 9th in steals.
* = has only played 4 games so SUNYAC does not report statistics.  If not Lovell Smith (because he doesn't qualify in your opinion) then......
L. Coleman (Oneonta) – top 10 in 4 categories

Second team:
J. Dignan (Geneseo)  Oneonta– leads in assists, 2nd in assist turnover ratio & 4th in steals
J. Glover (Buffalo State) 1 of only 4 players that are ranked in top 10 in at least 5 categories
R. J. Rosa (New Paltz) – only player ranked in top 3 in 3 pt% and steals.11th in scoring
C. Lyerly (Brockport) – 3rd in scoring, 6th in ft% and 9th in rebounds
B. Estarfaa (Cortland) – top 10 in scoring, 3pt% and 3 ptrs made

Honorable mention :
M. Henry (Buffalo State) – #2 in rebounds, in fg% and 14th in scoring
H. Shamseldin (Brockport) – 5th in scoring and ft%
B. Sortino (Oswego) – 6th in scoring and 9th in ft%
C. Zaepel (Geneseo) – #2 in assists and #1 assist to turnover ratio
I Helps (Fredonia) – top 10 in rebounds and fg%. 13th in scoring
J. Estramonte (Potsdam) – top 5 in 3pt% and 3 ptrs made. 17th in scoring
W. Sampson (Oswego) – 4th in ft%, 5th in assist to turnover ratio and 6th in assists


POY: 3 way tie between Ringen  & McLean  & Richardson

All Rookie: 
D. Langley (Potsdam)
J Patron (Plattsburgh)
J. Cooper (Cortland)
N. Paquette (New Paltz)
R Holloway (Buffalo State)

ROY: Cooper - top 30 in scoring, rebounds and ft%



Next week.  "Who's finishing first in the 'Yac (or near 1st or 2nd or 3rd or.....)"?

special thanks to nescac1


Fixed it for you.   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 14, 2015, 09:33:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 14, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 14, 2015, 04:09:52 PM
                          Since my BENGALS are off for the next 2 weeks (plus I'm bored as hell) I thought that I would present the 1st ever (drum roll please).............


                                                                     ALL SUNYAC (PRE – XMAS TEAM)
                                                 (If the season were to end today, this is who I would have for post season awards.)

First team:
J. Ringen (Geneseo)- only player ranked in the top 10 in 7 of 9 SUNYAC categories
K. Richardson (Plattsburgh) –only player ranked in top 5 in scoring, rebounding and blocked shots- ranked top 10 in 4 categories,
N. McLean (Buffalo State) – 1 of only 2 players ranked in top 10 in at least 6 of 9 categories
J. Decker (Geneseo)– top 5 in scoring, ft%, 3 pt% and 3 pt fg made
*L. Smith (Buffalo State) – top 5 in rebounding, fg%, blocked shots and 8th in scoring & 9th in steals.
* = has only played 4 games so SUNYAC does not report statistics.  If not Lovell Smith (because he doesn't qualify in your opinion) then......
L. Coleman (Oneonta) – top 10 in 4 categories

Second team:
J. Dignan Oneonta – leads in assists, 2nd in assist turnover ratio & 4th in steals
J. Glover (Buffalo State) 1 of only 4 players that are ranked in top 10 in at least 5 categories
R. J. Rosa (New Paltz) – only player ranked in top 3 in 3 pt% and steals.11th in scoring
C. Lyerly (Brockport) – 3rd in scoring, 6th in ft% and 9th in rebounds
B. Estarfaa (Cortland) – top 10 in scoring, 3pt% and 3 ptrs made

Honorable mention :
M. Henry (Buffalo State) – #2 in rebounds, in fg% and 14th in scoring
H. Shamseldin (Brockport) – 5th in scoring and ft%
B. Sortino (Oswego) – 6th in scoring and 9th in ft%
C. Zaepel (Geneseo) – #2 in assists and #1 assist to turnover ratio
I Helps (Fredonia) – top 10 in rebounds and fg%. 13th in scoring
J. Estramonte (Potsdam) – top 5 in 3pt% and 3 ptrs made. 17th in scoring
W. Sampson (Oswego) – 4th in ft%, 5th in assist to turnover ratio and 6th in assists


POY: 3 way tie between Ringen  & McLean  & Richardson

All Rookie: 
D. Langley (Potsdam)
J Patron (Plattsburgh)
J. Cooper (Cortland)
N. Paquette (New Paltz)
R Holloway (Buffalo State)

ROY: Cooper - top 30 in scoring, rebounds and ft%



Next week.  "Who's finishing first in the 'Yac (or near 1st or 2nd or 3rd or.....)"?

special thanks to nescac1


Fixed it for you.   ;D

Thanks..Somehow I knew you would  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 14, 2015, 11:01:37 PM
 SUNYAC conference is ranked #15 (out of 47 conferences)!!

SUNYAC teams (with rankings in parenthesis)  Oswego (43), Geneseo (50), Plattsburgh (61),Brockport (64), Oneonta (76), Cortland (83),  and BUFFALO STATE (92)

Empire 8 teams Ithaca (103)

Liberty League Skidmore (19)

       and also NEAC (which is also a "EAST" conference. Apologies for earlier omission)

NEAC Lancaster Bible College (63) (* next closest NEAC team is Morrisville state at #278)

7 of the top 9 teams in the East region are in the Yac.

Approx 11 OOC games left for the Yac, with 3 this weekend and 8 between Xmas and Jan 4th!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 15, 2015, 01:41:44 PM
Latest D3Hoops rankings ("Darryl style" - magicman)

East teams

12 - NYU
29 - Oswego State
31 - Lancaster Bible school
37 - SKIDMORE!!!!!!
43 - St John Fisher
58 - Geneseo

Upcoming games of note vs. SUNYAC teams

#10 John Carroll (8-0, 3-0 OAC) faces Brockport in Daytona 12/30
#51 New Jersey City  (7-2, 5-0 NJAC) faces Buffalo State in NYC 12/29
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2015, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 15, 2015, 01:41:44 PM
Latest D3Hoops rankings ("Darryl style" - magicman)

East teams

12 - NYU
29 - Oswego State
31 - Lancaster Bible school
37 - Skidmore
43 - St John Fisher
58 - Geneseo

Upcoming games of note vs. SUNYAC teams

#10 John Carroll (8-0, 3-0 OAC) faces Brockport in Daytona 12/30
#51 New Jersey City  (7-2, 5-0 NJAC) faces Buffalo State in NYC 12/29

Fixed it for you.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 15, 2015, 03:36:33 PM
Looks like someone has a new toy or gained a new skill.....color posts.  The yellow/ gold is hard to read though ;D. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2015, 04:03:48 PM
amh63,

Yes, I agree, one must avoid yellow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 15, 2015, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 15, 2015, 03:36:33 PM
Looks like someone has a new toy or gained a new skill.....color posts.  The yellow/ gold is hard to read though ;D.

2 weeks with no (BENGALS) games is rough. In 3 more days I'm gonna know the shoe size, and favorite color, of everyone on the NJ City roster. Wait till you see what I have planned for next week (did someone say "mixing colors???")!  Magicman used to tutor me    :)....now he just corrects me :-[

;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 16, 2015, 11:48:15 AM
Did you know that....

....the top 3 free throw shooters in the 'Yac all come from GENESEO??

1.   Kevin Crockett (SUNY Geneseo)   7   17   17   1.000
2.   John Decker     (SUNY Geneseo)     5   33   37   .892
3.   Justin Ringen    (SUNY Geneseo)   7   26   30   .867
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2015, 12:08:48 AM
Just when I thought I was getting bored. D3hoops post this today in their "Rolling around the nation" segment!! 

You can read the whole article here     http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-nation/index        however the last 5 sentences about the "Featured team of the day" reads...    "NJCU's seven-game winning streak is the longest since winning seven straight from January 23 to February 13, 2013. The last time NJCU had a streak longer than seven straight was nine straight from January 24 to February 14, 2011. NJCU won the NJAC championship that season. NJCU is 7-2 to start a season for the first time since opening the 2011-12 season at 9-1 overall.
The Gothic Knights will play Buffalo State in the Coaches vs. Cancer Classic on Tuesday, Dec. 29 at Lehman".[/i]

Consider me no longer bored. Lets see Wosu's shoe size is 13 1/2 and favorite color is green...Harris' shoe size is 11 1/2 and..... nevermind!!! ;)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on December 17, 2015, 10:37:15 AM
SUNYAC is looking completely wide open with what i believe is the top 7 teams. Oswego, Geneseo, Buff State, Oneonta, Plattsburgh, Brockport, and Cortland. I believe all of these teams are capable of winning the league. I have been really impressed with Geneseo, Oswego, Brockport, Buff State and Oneonta in particular. Oswego is 8-1 right now playing a loaded schedule on the road and not playing anywhere near there best basketball. I think you can credit that to the experience and talent level of the Lakers. I watched Geneseo play twice and i believe they are a top 2-3 team in the league with transfer John Decker and Justin Ringen who are averaging well over 20ppg. I also watched Brockport absolutely man handle St John Fisher during the Wendys Classic. Oneonta has what i think will be 3 really good wins at the end of the year Fisher, Williams, and Hartwick. They are really talented and scoring a ton of points. Brockport has a lot of talent and return a big guy from last season after the break. Buff State has plenty of wins at 5-2 so far beating Alfred, Oswego, Naz, and Hobart. I think Naz and Alfred will be better wins by the end of the year but Buff State has been impressive as well so far. I heard Plattsburgh is loaded with talented as well as Cortland but have not seen much of those two teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2015, 11:09:24 PM
Did you know........

SUNY Brockport will play 7 games in 2015 and all of them will be away games. Their first home game won't be to Jan 5th 2016......vs Buffalo State :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2015, 11:35:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2015, 11:09:24 PM
Did you know........

SUNY Brockport will play 7 games in 2015 and all of them will be away games. Their first home game won't be to Jan 5th 2016......vs Buffalo State :o

People on this website who pay close attention will note that someone already mentioned that fact about a month ago. ;D


Quote from: magicman on November 18, 2015, 09:43:49 PM
Brockport overpowers St. Lawrence 81-57  as they open their season with a win on the road. The Golden Eagles will need to do a lot of winning on the road if they hope to have a decent campaign this year especially in the non-conference portion of their schedule. They will (barring a home contest in the Wendy's tournament) play all 7 of their non-conference games on the road. They won't see their home fans until January 5th, but if they play like they did today, it should be quite a homecoming. St. Lawrence now falls to 0-2 in the SUNYAC  and will meet Plattsburgh on 12-1 before they finish their annual tour of SUNYAC schools against Potsdam State on 12-12. Last year they went 1-3 in their 4 YAC games so they will have to beat the Cardinals in Plattsburgh if they want to improve on that 2014-15 record.

The Golden Eagles looked better against SLU than Oswego did last week. I'm thinking that no one should be giving the Lakers a free pass to the conference title because Brockport will certainly have a lot to say about that.

Brockport was led tonight by the hot hand of returning All Conference selection Clifton Lyerly. LYerly pumped in 26 points, scoring in a variety of way with jumpers, drives, free throws and 3 pointers. He was 10-17 from the field, 2x2 from behind the arc and 4x4 from the line. Close behind was Hamed Shamseldin who tossed in 20 points, with 16 of them coming in the first half. He may not have started but he played more minutes, 25,  than all the starters except  Lyerly, who was on the floor for 30 minutes. Matt Smith also hit double figures with 15 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists. David Clark only had 3 points but he captured rebounding honors for the game with 9 boards. Ismael Pierre was right behind him with 8 rebounds. Brockport outshot the Saints, outrebounded them 39-30 and committed only 14 turnovers to 21 for SLU. Port scored 25 points off turnovers to a measley 2 points that SLU got off TO's. All in all a pretty convincing win over a team that was picked to finish 2nd in the Liberty League.

The Larries were led by 13 points from Dom DeRegis, who was the only SLU player to score in double figures. Freshman Ben Crawford was next  with 9 points and 5 rebounds.

St. Lawrence, now 0-2, will resume play this weekend when they travel to Buffalo to take on Medaille College at 5 PM on Friday evening in the Mavericks tournament. They will face off against Baldwin-Wallace or Middlebury on Saturday afternoon.

Brockport 1-0, is off until November 24th when they will travel south to Long Island to take on the Farmingdale Rams at 5:00 PM.

One overlooked factor in today's game against SLU is that Brockport was missing their leading scorer from last season, All Conference  senior guard/forward, Patrick Modzelewski. How good will the Golden Eagles be when they factor him back into the rotation?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 18, 2015, 05:05:19 AM
For Magicman, the answer to "Did you know?" Is always: "of course I did!"  :) ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention!  I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 18, 2015, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention!  I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!

What am I, chopped liver??  :D ;) ;D

Actually, I haven't added anything informational to the board yet. I keep saying I'll make the effort to pay more attention to the bball but it has yet to really happen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 18, 2015, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention!  I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!

What am I, chopped liver??  :D ;) ;D

Actually, I haven't added anything informational to the board yet. I keep saying I'll make the effort to pay more attention to the bball but it has yet to really happen.

Far from it PG. I was just commenting on how little activity has been on the boards this week, Other than dcahill comments yesterday, itas been pretty slow this week. And dcahill usually visits here 1 or 2 time a year, (unless Naz is doing really good). I know that the O W M 1 lives to correct my posts so I figured that I'd give him something similar to what he posted earlier, as a way to get him back to the boards! And it worked!!!  No Buff State games for 2 weeks is killing me,  however I can at least tune in this weekend to some Plattsburgh/Cortland action!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 18, 2015, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 18, 2015, 11:23:04 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention!  I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!

What am I, chopped liver??  :D ;) ;D

Actually, I haven't added anything informational to the board yet. I keep saying I'll make the effort to pay more attention to the bball but it has yet to really happen.

Far from it PG. I was just commenting on how little activity has been on the boards this week, Other than dcahill comments yesterday, itas been pretty slow this week. And dcahill usually visits here 1 or 2 time a year, (unless Naz is doing really good). I know that the O W M 1 lives to correct my posts so I figured that I'd give him something similar to what he posted earlier, as a way to get him back to the boards! And it worked!!!  No Buff State games for 2 weeks is killing me,  however I can at least tune in this weekend to some Plattsburgh/Cortland action!

Yeah unfortunately we're already in the lull over on the football pages, for the most part. I've been posting in many different regions to get my fix.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2015, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention! I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!

Why would I be on here today with predictions?  Is there some games today that are posted on a schedule somewhere that only you have access to?  ??? I'll let you predict the outcome of today's games, since I must have missed the boat on those. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 18, 2015, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention! I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!

Why would I be on here today with predictions?  Is there some games today that are posted on a schedule somewhere that only you have access to?  ??? I'll let you predict the outcome of today's games, since I must have missed the boat on those. ;D

"Posts/predictions".  Sooo no posts of any sorts? Oops you already have!! ;)  It worked!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 18, 2015, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention! I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!

Why would I be on here today with predictions?  Is there some games today that are posted on a schedule somewhere that only you have access to?  ??? I'll let you predict the outcome of today's games, since I must have missed the boat on those. ;D

"Posts/predictions".  Sooo no posts of any sorts? Oops you already have!! ;)  It worked!!

You must really be bored. ???  Some of us actually have a business to run and there are times (like Christmas) when some of us are busy.

Forget the shoe sizes of the New Jersey City players, you need to find out the exact distances each one of their 3 point shooters like to fire them up from. Especially the J&J boys...Jalen Harris and James Julius. So get your ruler out and start measuring while you're looking at that game tape. I heard some of those 3 pointers come from way downtown.  Remember the NJ City coach was called Marc "Showbiz" Brown for a reason, back in his playing days at Siena College, because he put on quite a show. Especially in 1989 when #14 seed Siena beat #3 seed Stanford behind Brown's 32 points. And he loved to hoist them up from beyond the arc. I'm sure he passes that love onto his players. So get busy!! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 18, 2015, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 18, 2015, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Wow Magicman. What took you so long to respond :) ? I was sure you would have seen that post 5 mins after I put it up. Glad to see I got your attention! I imagine that there will be some posts/predictions from you today. This board has been pretty empty this week ( other than dacahill monthly cameo)!

Why would I be on here today with predictions?  Is there some games today that are posted on a schedule somewhere that only you have access to?  ??? I'll let you predict the outcome of today's games, since I must have missed the boat on those. ;D

"Posts/predictions".  Sooo no posts of any sorts? Oops you already have!! ;)  It worked!!

You must really be bored. ???  Some of us actually have a business to run and there are times (like Christmas) when some of us are busy.

Forget the shoe sizes of the New Jersey City players, you need to find out the exact distances each one of their 3 point shooters like to fire them up from. Especially the J&J boys...Jalen Harris and James Julius. So get your ruler out and start measuring while you're looking at that game tape. I heard some of those 3 pointers come from way downtown.  Remember the NJ City coach was called Marc "Showbiz" Brown for a reason, back in his playing days at Siena College, because he put on quite a show. Especially in 1989 when #14 seed Siena beat #3 seed Stanford behind Brown's 32 points. And he loved to hoist them up from beyond the arc. I'm sure he passes that love onto his players. So get busy!!

That's the Magicman that we all love in WNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I got to make it a point to stop at the Music Shop next time I'm in Plattsburgh. I hear that the owner there is a big Hoops fan....too!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 18, 2015, 03:57:06 PMAnd he loved to hoist them up from beyond the arc. I'm sure he passes that love onto his players. So get busy!!

Prepare for their 3 pt shooters?  Good advice there OWM1!!  Fortunately my BENGALS, and your cards, are in probably 1 of the best 3 pt shooting conferences around. There are some serious sharpshooters in the 'yac ( see below) so facing them should help my BENGALS. I will pass this insight on to Coaches Glover and Gross though!

"below"  are comparisons between the 2 sharpshooters from New jersey City and some of the Yac's best that we all see week in and week out. Go 'Yac!! 

Blair Esterfaa (SUNY Cortland)       7 games   25    makes    54    Attempts      .463%
                                              Vs
Jalen Harris    (NJCU)                 9 games     22 makes       53 attempts        .415%


Justin Ringen (SUNY Geneseo)         7     games          27   makes    48    attempts      .563%
                                             Vs
James Julius    (NJCU)                     9 games            17 makes    45 attempts         .378%

One might argue that my BENGALS did not do a good job against Esterfaa 3 weeks ago (5 of 11 from beyond the arc), plus Reagan hit a game winning 3  :-[ , but I believe that the BENGALS will work harder in NYC when it ciomes to getting out there on their shooters. Clearly NJCU has a complete team (inside and out). But more talk about that next week!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2015, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
One might argue that my BENGALS did not do a good job against Esterfaa 3 weeks ago (5 of 11 from beyond the arc), plus Reagan hit a game winning 3  :-[ , but I believe that the BENGALS will work harder in NYC when it comes to getting out there on their shooters. Clearly NJCU has a complete team (inside and out). But more talk about that next week!

That was clearly the reason for my post. Your guys need to do a better job defending the 3 pointer. 13 given up in that Cortland game, 11 in your other loss. You can beat this team, if and it's a big if.... you play better defense.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2015, 01:03:48 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 18, 2015, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
One might argue that my BENGALS did not do a good job against Esterfaa 3 weeks ago (5 of 11 from beyond the arc), plus Reagan hit a game winning 3  :-[ , but I believe that the BENGALS will work harder in NYC when it comes to getting out there on their shooters. Clearly NJCU has a complete team (inside and out). But more talk about that next week!

That was clearly the reason for my post. Your guys need to do a better job defending the 3 pointer. 13 given up in that Cortland game, 11 in your other loss. You can beat this team, if and it's a big if.... you play better defense.

MMMM  Sounds like a upcoming prediction that might not bode well for my BENGALS. :o  Nuff said!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2015, 11:00:31 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2015, 01:03:48 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 18, 2015, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
One might argue that my BENGALS did not do a good job against Esterfaa 3 weeks ago (5 of 11 from beyond the arc), plus Reagan hit a game winning 3  :-[ , but I believe that the BENGALS will work harder in NYC when it comes to getting out there on their shooters. Clearly NJCU has a complete team (inside and out). But more talk about that next week!

That was clearly the reason for my post. Your guys need to do a better job defending the 3 pointer. 13 given up in that Cortland game, 11 in your other loss. You can beat this team, if and it's a big if.... you play better defense.

MMMM  Sounds like a upcoming prediction that might not bode well for my BENGALS. :o  Nuff said!!! ;)

My predictions do not determine the outcome of the games. Only the players and how they perform on the court can do that. If I pick against your Bengals (and I haven't made a decision on which team I think will win this game, yet) then they need to prove me wrong, which of course, I always hope they do. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 19, 2015, 11:10:30 AM
If
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 19, 2015, 11:18:18 AM
I like Plattsburgh today over Stevensen .  I hope the Cardinals are a full strength today and get back on the winning track.
I also like Cortland over SUNYIT.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2015, 11:32:20 AM
Quote from: All-Time on December 19, 2015, 11:10:30 AM
If

Duly noted!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2015, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: All-Time on December 19, 2015, 11:18:18 AM
I like Plattsburgh today over Stevensen .  I hope the Cardinals are a full strength today and get back on the winning track.
I also like Cortland over SUNYIT.

No point spreads??  No MOV?? No totals?? How can I bet the Over/under??? ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2015, 12:04:31 PM
Two games involving SUNYAC teams today, December 19th
   

Stevenson  vs  Plattsburgh State     2:00 PM   Holiday Shootout @ Florida Christian School (Miami, Fla.)

The Cardinals are coming off their worst loss in quite some time and will hopefully be at full strength today against the Stevenson Mustangs. The Mustangs are out of the Middle Atlantic Conference-Commonwealth Division and come into this game with a somewhat disappointing 3-5 record. This team was 21-9 last season and won an ECAC South Championship. They had a number of returning rotation players and I expected them to be in the hunt in their conference. Despite their record the Mustangs are a decent team and this should be a competitive contest. The oddsmakers have the Cardinals favored by a 7 point margin and that seems to be about right. I think the Cardinals take this one by a 78-70 final score.

         
SUNY-Poly  at  Cortland State        2:00 PM

Formerly known as SUNYIT this is the other Utica school that has often given the Red Dragons a battle. The Wildcats have managed to win 2 games in the past 5 years against Cortland so nothing is a given in this contest. Having said that however, Cortland should take care of business today as the point spread favors the Red Dragons by a 17 point margin. I'll be surprised if the Wildcats can keep it that close. I'm taking Cortland to win this one by an 85-65 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 19, 2015, 02:39:11 PM
Cortland at its Corey Gym taking down SUNY Poly 47-29 at the half. Shooting 60 percent from the field (18x30, 3x10 3s). G. Carter with 11 pts, JP Reagan 9 pts (4x5fg, 1x2 3s) and 5 rebs in 10' off the bench. M. Kelly adds 7 pts (3x3fg) in 7' of reserve duty. B. Estarfaa 8 pts. R. Dragons up late 45-25. Poly 11x29fg led by spare P. Griffiths 10 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2015, 02:48:28 PM
Plattsburgh leads Stevenson 35-33 at the half.

Cards go up 35-28 with 3:07 to play on a layup by Magic Grigg but the Cards commit 3 fouls, miss 3 shots and turn the ball over which results in no more points on the board and allows the Mustangs to close within 2 points at the break.

Jon Patron leads Plattsburgh with 15 points on 6 of 10 from the field. Kyle Richardson and Xavier Thomas both have 7 points, while Richardson already has 9 rebounds.

Erik Fisher leads the Mustangs with 11 points and 7 rebounds. Sean Mayberry has 10 and Christian Roberts has 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2015, 03:01:06 PM
Live video for the Plattsburgh-Stevenson game is all screwed up. About 8 minutes into the game all these apps came on the video screen and reduced the video to about the size of an inch and a half screen. Full screen you can get it to about a 2 inch square. Really sucks as I was hoping to watch the game on a decent video feed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 19, 2015, 03:08:40 PM
Ugh. That's really annoying. It also says Stevenson vs. SUNY. Hopefully it just cut off the actual school or else Stevenson is facing lots of schools at once.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 19, 2015, 03:39:02 PM
Cortland rolls past Utica's SUNY Poly 77-64 at home. In command from midway through the first half which winds up 47-29. RDragons by 28 points at 75-57 with 7:45 left. Sixteen Corts in pretty extensive work. Poly employs its eight.

CSt hits 51 percent from the field after a 60 percent first half. Poly at 41 percent for the contest.

B. Estarfaa with 15 pts(5x9fg, 2x4 3s) in 25'; JP Reagan 13 pts(6x7fg, 1x2 3s) in 16'; G. Carter 13 pts(5x8fg), 6 rebs in 23'; A. McGuire 4 assts; M. Kelly 9 pts(4x5fg) in 15'; S. Martinez 8 pts(2x2fg) in 20'; Z. Cotton 5pf in 12'.

Poly's P. Griffiths 27 pts(9x17fg)

Cortland 7-1 and next meets Medaille there on Jan. 2. Uticans 3-6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2015, 03:45:26 PM
 Final score from Miami    Plattsburgh 81 Stevenson 67

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2015, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 19, 2015, 03:08:40 PM
Ugh. That's really annoying. It also says Stevenson vs. SUNY. Hopefully it just cut off the actual school or else Stevenson is facing lots of schools at once.  ;D

pg04,
Even when they had a good video feed for the first few minutes it still said Stevenson vs SUNY.
They must have thought the NY in SUNY was the Big Apple. ???  So we were the State University of New York City. Stevenson was looking to feel good if they beat us. ;D

It's actually Eastern University's fault as they were the on site host for this tournament and responsible for the live stats and video feed. Oh well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2015, 08:07:14 PM
2 more wins for the 'Yac!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2015, 08:46:16 PM
Did you know that....

The SUNYAC is a combined 23-6 versus the other 3 "East" conferences for this year?!

9 wins and 1 loss vs Empire 8
9 wins and 4 loses vs Liberty League
5 wins and 1 loss vs NEAC

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 19, 2015, 11:30:35 PM
And they should make it another win over an "East" conference as Plattsburgh shouldn't have much trouble with UMass-Dartmouth out of the Little East conference.  As magic knows, you let Rezendes get his 30-40 points, don't make anyone else have a big output and you should be well on your way to a victory as Dartmouth is almost guaranteed to give up 75+ on the defensive end of the floor.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2015, 03:23:41 AM
Quote from: 7express on December 19, 2015, 11:30:35 PM
And they should make it another win over an "East" conference as Plattsburgh shouldn't have much trouble with UMass-Dartmouth out of the Little East conference.  As magic knows, you let Rezendes get his 30-40 points, don't make anyone else have a big output and you should be well on your way to a victory as Dartmouth is almost guaranteed to give up 75+ on the defensive end of the floor.

And on Saturday night when UMass-Dartmouth lost to Eastern by a 76-57 final they didn't let Rezendes get his 30-40 points that I was counting on since I had him on my team in the Saturday Night One and Done League. He only got 18 points, and stiffed me, so my Cardinals better hold him to no more than 20. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2015, 05:27:52 AM
Plattsburgh 81  Stevenson 67

That was fairly close to what I thought the final score would be as I had Plattsburgh winning  by a 78-70 margin. Only 3 points off on each side and my total of 148 was right on the money. Stevenson missed 7 shots in a row and had 3 turnovers in the final 4 minutes of the game. The score was 66-60 with 3:53 left and the only points the Mustangs got were 5 foul shots before they made a basket with 3 seconds left in the game. The Cardinals got a 3 pointer from Jon Patron and a layup from Kyle Richardson to extend that 66-60 lead to 71-60 to put a lid on this one.

The first half was a tight contest with 5 ties before Plattsburgh got a jumper from Patron, a 3 pointer from Richardson and another 3 pointer from Patron to make it 18-10. The Mustangs got back to back 3 pointers from Christian Roberts, then Erik Fisher to close the gap to 20-18 and the margin would remain a 1 or 2 possession game until Plattsburgh once again opened up a 35-28 lead with 3:07 left in the half. The Cards went cold however and allowed Stevenson to narrow the gap to 35-33 at the break.

The Mustangs caught the Cardinals on their first possession of the 2nd half but Kyle Richardson scored inside to put Plattsburgh back in front. Erik Fisher then buried a triple to give the Mustangs their first lead of the day. Three lead changes and five ties would take place over the next 6 minutes until the Cardinals, tied at 48 got another 3 pointer from Richardson and a 3 point play on a hoop and harm from Zack Coleman to give Plattsburgh the lead for good. The Mustangs got their own 3 point play on their next possession but Ed Correa  answered with a bomb from downtown and Richardson followed with another layup inside to stretch the lead to 59-51 with 8 minutes to go. Plattsburgh took their first double digit lead on consecutive layups by Brandon Johnson and Jon Patron to make it 64-53 with 5:21 to go. The Mustangs made one final push and cut it to a 2 possession game at 66-60 but things quickly fell apart when they couldn't buy a basket in the final 4 minutes.

The Cardinals got a big game out of Jon Patron who had his biggest game yet in a Cardinal uniform. The first year player improved upon the 18 points he had against St Lawrence earlier this month by capturing scoring honors with 22 points. He was 9x14 from the field, 2x4 from behind the arc and 2x2 from the line. Jon also had 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal in 28 minutes off the bench.

Kyle Richardson had another big double-double with 21 points and a game high 15 rebounds.  This was Kyle's 4th double-double in 7 games and the 15 boards will move him into 7th place in the nation with his 12.6 rpg.
The X-Man, Xavier Thomas, had a solid game with 14 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal. Zack Coleman had 9 points, with 4 rebounds, and went 7x7 from the line. Eli Bryant came off the bench with 6 points, 6 assists and 4 rebounds in 20 minutes of court time.

Plattsburgh outshot the Mustangs in all 3 areas and also outrebounded them 45-40. The Cardinals had 12 turnovers to only 10 for the Mustangs.

Stevenson was led by Erik Fisher with 17 points and 10 rebounds. Christian Roberts had 16 points, Sean Mayberry had 14 points with 8 boards, and Julian Davis had 10 points.

Plattsburgh improves to 5-2 overall and will be back at it on Sunday with another game from Miami against UMass-Dartmouth at 3:00 PM.

Stevenson will go up against  the Centre Colonels Sunday at 1:00 PM to wrap up their trip down south.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2015, 05:33:43 AM
Cortland 77  SUNY-Poly 64.

No surprises here as the Red Dragons did what they were supposed to do. I had them winning by an 85-65 final score. The Wildcats were just a point away from my forecast and Cortland's coaching staff played the mercy card and emptied the bench earlier than most others would have, which limited the points on the Red Dragons side.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2015, 06:35:46 AM
Just a single game on tap today as Plattsburgh wraps up it trip to Florida.

UMass-Dartmouth  vs  Plattsburgh State   3:00PM

Cardinals looking to come home with a 2-0 road trip after taking down Stevenson yesterday. UMass-Dartmouth, a member of the Little East Conference, comes into this game with a 5-4 overall record. The Corsairs can put a lot of points up on the scoreboard as they have broken the century mark twice this year and scored n the 90's on another occasion. All 3 of those games were wins. They do however give up a lot of points as well. They average 82.3 ppg and give up 79.5 ppg. In their losses they have given up 81.5 ppg. They have the 3rd leading scorer in the nation, 6'2" senior guard Jordan Rezendes. Jordan is averaging 29.4 ppg. but he's not the only threat they have as 4 others on the team are currently averaging double figures in ppg. Plattsburgh will have to get after this team on the defensive end and use their athleticism to prevent them from running their offense the way they would like to. If the Corsairs want to turn this game into a track meet they will find themselves hitting the tape in 2nd place. Plattsburgh is averaging over 81 points a game in their 5 wins. That's what the Corsairs give up.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 9 point favorite here and  when I crunch the numbers, that's about what I come up with as well. Plattsburgh has beaten better teams than this one by more than 9 points. Plattsburgh wins this one, 84-72.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2015, 11:45:20 AM
Kudos to coach Curle for taking his boys to sunny Fla for 4 days, in the middle of December, and for taking care of business yesterday. With the first snow of the year falling this weekend in Buffalo, I couldn't help but wonder what it was like for Kyle and co.to be in 75-80 degree weather the past 3 days!  Hopefully 7express ( you gotta tell us how u came up with that name) and the Magic 1 are right about today's results!  Also kudos to the Red Dragons/Jdex for beating Sunyit and keeping the Yac undefeated, so far, this weekend!

With a conference as tough as the Sunyac I can only hope that ........
A - thier, The 'Yac,  stellar record vs other "East conferences" is remembered come selection Sunday.  The Yac is definitly a multi bid conference!
B - all Yac teams stay healthy. It's a shame that we have to beat up on each other for the last 18 games of the regular season ( actually 16 except Brockport and Geneseo). Somebody's got to lose half of these contests!

Sunyac predictions coming soon.... Bengalstyle!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Brockports upcoming opponent is the feature story today in D3HOOPS!  http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/12/wrapup-1219

John Carroll is 9-0 and off until they face the Golden Eagles in Daytona Fla on Dec 29th (whats with all the Florida trips??).  Did someone say "quality win" opportunity ahead for B-Port/'Yac??  Go Yac...B-Port!!   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 20, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
Coming in late here after watching my daughters HS basketball team win their 5 game of the season and stand 5-1.
There is nothing better than watching HS and college basketball, they all give it their all.
Anyway Plattsburgh finishes their F
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 20, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
Florida trip 2-0 with a convincing win today.
Go CARDINALS
Safe Travels home.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
Plattsburgh leads UMass-Dartmouth 51-42 at the half.

Kyle Richardson coming up big for the Cardinals once again as he has 22 first half points to  almost double every other player's 1st half point total.

Cardinals led several times in the first part of the period by 7 or 8 points but each time the Corsairs would narrow the gap. Down by 8 at 29-21 with 11:13 left in the half Dartmouth came back on a 10-2 run and caught the Cardinals at 31-31 with 8 minutes to go. Only ahead 41-37 with 5 minutes left on the clock, Plattsburgh got an Ed Correa triple, followed by an old fashioned 3 point play from Richardson. Richardson then added 2 more  layups before the Corsairs could get another score and with 1:27 left in the half the Cards had opened up a 14 point bulge at 51-37. The Corsairs would get the final 5 points of the half to cut the lead to single digits at 51-42.

Jon Patron was also in double figures in the first half for Plattsburgh with 11 points.

Jon Robinson led the Corsairs with 12 points and Jordan Rezendes had 9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2015, 08:11:21 PM
Plattsburgh State 99  UMass-Dartmouth 95

There was a track meet in Florida today and the Cardinals had just enough speed and stamina to nip the Corsairs at the wire. This game should never have been this close and the funny thing is I had no idea it was this close. I was having computer problems at my house as the modem is acting up and my download speed is way off. So I can't maintain a good video connection. I was following the game on a herky jerky video feed that would constantly stop and start. So I had the live stats page up and was using that to follow a lot of the action. I noticed yesterday when I watched the videos from the site of the games (and yesterday I was at my store office watching and had no computer issues) that the live stats were about 2 minutes faster than the video. If I looked at the live stats I could see a basket by Richardson for instance and 2 minutes later it would happen on the video. Strange that the video was that far behind the live stats but it was. So today it was more of the same except my video feed was so bad I spent most of my time watching the live stats. Little did I know that the live stats were way off from the actual scoring. Most of the game there wasn't a problem but inside of the final 7 minutes the live stats were completely different than the actual score. At one point I'm looking at a score of 91 to 80 in favor of Plattsburgh on the livestats page. There's a time out on the floor and they flash to the scoreboard which shows Plattsburgh ahead 86-85. Totally confused as to how it's a 1 point game when the Cards are in front by 11. Times are way off as well. Just to give you an example of how screwed up the stats are here is a link to the boxscore:

  http://d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2015-16/boxscores/20151220_ha7m.xml

Look how many things take place when there is 5:06 left to play in the 2nd half. Somebody went back and has tried to reconstruct what took place over a span of a couple of minutes but the time doesn't move from 5:06. Maybe there was some high tech gadgets there that froze time like we see in science fiction movies.
The funniest thing is the 5 Plattsburgh players that enter the game at 5:06  are the same 5 players that go to the bench. Now that's a Back to the Future moment.

So I had no idea that the game was a single possession game with just seconds on the clock. At one point I'm looking at a score showing the Cardinals in front 98-89 with seconds left  and then I get a final score of 100-91. Now I see the video and there's a time out and the scoreboard says it's 97-95 Cards with 44 seconds to go. I'm trying to figure out how Dartmouth got to 95 points when I'm looking at a final of 100-91. Remember I said the live stats were several minutes ahead of the video, so I should be watching a video with the score somewhere around 98-89.

I never knew what the final score was until they put up the box score but as you can see even the box score is all screwed up.

The bottom line is the Cards won a game they were supposed to win. They seemed to open up daylight every time the Corsairs tried to make a game of it. It looked like Plattsburgh allowed themselves to get sloppy with the lead and never really put the Corsairs away, mainly because they didn't play good defense.

Fortunately for Plattsburgh, Jon Patron made his free throws down the stretch and scored 10 points in the final 4 minutes of play as the Cardinals held off the Corsairs for the win. The 1-2 punch of Patron and Kyle Richardson was huge for Plattsburgh all weekend and today they were able to offset the JR boys from Dartmouth, Jordan Rezandes and Jon Robinson.

Richardson once again had a double-double, his 5th of the season with 26 points (11x18 fg) and a  team high 10 rebounds. He also had 3 blocks 2 steals and 1 assist.  Jon Patron once again reset his high game in a Cardinal uniform. Yesterday he had 22 points for a new Cardinal high and today he topped that with a team high 27 points (10x12 fg, 2x3 3's, 5x7 ft). He just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds, a steal, block and assist in only 19 minutes off the bench.

Ed Correa seems to be rounding back into form after missing some time with an injury as he had 5 three pointers for a 15 point night. He added 8 rebounds, a block and a steal. Xavier Thomas had another all around game as he scored 11 points, grabbed 8 boards, had 4 assists, a steal and a block. Eli Bryant also provided help off the bench with 10 points and 4 rebounds.

The Plattsburgh bench outscored the Corsairs by a 43 to 7 margin. We outshot Dartmouth in all 3 categories and won the rebounding battle by a 47-39 margin. They had 9 turnovers to 13 for the Cards.

Jordan Rezandes was the game's leading scorer with 32 points, was the game's leading rebounder with 12 boards and completed his triple-double with 10 assists, which was...you guessed it, the game's leader there as well. I had Rezandes on my fantasy team last night (it's a Saturday night only league) and he scored a season low 15 fantasy points. Today against my Cardinals he gets 56 fantasy points. There's no justice in this world. :P

The Corsairs also had double digit scoring from Jon Robinson with 21 points, Nick Portelance with 17 points, and Abi Akanni with 14 points.

Plattsburgh State improves to 6-2 on the season and will now be off until Monday, January 4th when they host Trinity College out of the NESCAC conference at 7:00 PM.   
       
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 20, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Brockports upcoming opponent is the feature story today in D3HOOPS!  http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/12/wrapup-1219

John Carroll is 9-0 and off until they face the Golden Eagles in Daytona Fla on Dec 29th (whats with all the Florida trips??).  Did someone say "quality win" opportunity ahead for B-Port/'Yac??  Go Yac...B-Port!!   ;)

I put that game on my schedule this week for the D3 national pick em league schedule.  Giving some much deserved love to the 'YAC, don't let me down!

As for my name: the 7 subway in New York, one of the few subway lines that has express service, hence 7express :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 20, 2015, 08:30:09 PM
That's quite a box score! 

At the 5:06 mark:

A free throw, then a steal, then a layup, then a missed layup, then an offensive rebound, then a missed 3-pointer that was blocked, another offensive rebound, a foul, a missed free throw, a defensive rebound, another foul, then a made free throw, then a missed free throw, then another offensive rebound, then another missed layup, another offensive rebound, then suddenly the entire team enters and exits the game.

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 12:44:08 AM
Quote from: 7express on December 20, 2015, 08:27:44 PM

I put that game on my schedule this week for the D3 national pick em league schedule.  Giving some much deserved love to the 'YAC, don't let me down!

As for my name: the 7 subway in New York, one of the few subway lines that has express service, hence 7express :)

Catch the 7 express! Nyc roots there!  Wonder if I can jump on that between Penn station and Barclay on Jan 11 when I go to see the Nets vs Spurs?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 12:46:08 AM
Quote from: 7express on December 20, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Brockports upcoming opponent is the feature story today in D3HOOPS!  http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/12/wrapup-1219

John Carroll is 9-0 and off until they face the Golden Eagles in Daytona Fla on Dec 29th (whats with all the Florida trips??).  Did someone say "quality win" opportunity ahead for B-Port/'Yac??  Go Yac...B-Port!!   ;)

I put that game on my schedule this week for the D3 national pick em league schedule.  Giving some much deserved love to the 'YAC, don't let me down!

As for my name: the 7 subway in New York, one of the few subway lines that has express service, hence 7express :)

I'm curious to see who's gonna pick Brockport to win in pick em league.  I'm betting that Magicman will!

Oh and on behalf of the 'Yac .... The "Love" is appreciated
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2015, 02:33:24 PM
So once again Kyle Richardson has another big week to put him in position to be named the SUNYAC Player of the Week. This is the 3rd time that Kyle has a chance to be honored with the weekly award. The question is....will he finally get it? Or will it be snatched from him once again, this time by his own teammate, Jon Patron. Here's the story:

Kyle's 2 game totals:

12-19 against Stevenson                21 pts. (7x16 fg, 3x9 3's, 4x4 ft)  15 rebounds, 1 block, 1 steal 
12-20 against UMass-Dartmouth    26 pts. (11-18 fg, 0x2 3's, 4-5 ft) 10 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 steals, 1 asst

Jon's 2 game totals:

12-19 against Stevenson                22 pts. (9x15 fg, 2x4 3's, 2x2 ft) 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal
12-20 against UMass-Dartmouth    27 pts. (10x12 fg, 2x3 3's, 5x7 ft) 9 reb. 1 asst, 1 steal, 1 block

Points:         Jon  49   Kyle  47
Rebounds:   Kyle 25   Jon  16
Blocks:         Kyle 4     Jon  1
Steals:         Kyle 3     Jon  2
Assists:        Jon  3    Kyle  1
FG%            Jon 19x27  70.3%   Kyle 18x34 52.9%
3FG%          Jon 4x7      57.1%   Kyle 3x11   27.2%
FT%            Kyle 8x9     88.8%   Jon  7x9     77.7%
Minutes       Kyle 40 & 34 =74     Jon 28 & 19 = 47

While Jon outscored Kyle by 2 points total, Kyle had 9 more rebounds than Jon. Kyle's shooting percentages weren't as good as Jon's but Kyle played quite a few more minutes than Jon did. Once again it is a pretty close race to decide the POTW winner.

My vote goes to Kyle because he's been denied twice before when he deserved it. Enough is enough. The YAC needs to show him, some respect....finally!!!

But Jon Patron certainly has the stats to command a POTW award...I just hope he can duplicate this 2 game outburst in the near future and claim the weekly honor. Just think that Kyle shouldn't be overlooked a 3rd time. Then again maybe overlooking Kyle is what drives him.  ??? If that's the case...then give it to Jon. ;D       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 03:08:57 PM
My Crystal ball says that a "Plattsburgh player will be this weeks P.O.W." ;)!  I'm hooping that its Kyle so that his next full week of games (1/4-9th), he can slow down a little. Or at least slow down on the 9th!! :)  So SUNYAC, if you are listening, Kyle Richardson should be the POW (or maybe Co-player with Patron?)   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 21, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 12:46:08 AM
Quote from: 7express on December 20, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Brockports upcoming opponent is the feature story today in D3HOOPS!  http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/12/wrapup-1219

John Carroll is 9-0 and off until they face the Golden Eagles in Daytona Fla on Dec 29th (whats with all the Florida trips??).  Did someone say "quality win" opportunity ahead for B-Port/'Yac??  Go Yac...B-Port!!   ;)

I put that game on my schedule this week for the D3 national pick em league schedule.  Giving some much deserved love to the 'YAC, don't let me down!

As for my name: the 7 subway in New York, one of the few subway lines that has express service, hence 7express :)

I'm curious to see who's gonna pick Brockport to win in pick em league.  I'm betting that Magicman will!

Oh and on behalf of the 'Yac .... The "Love" is appreciated

If no one else picks them, I certainly will.

Can't catch the 7 to Barclay's :(  7 goes out to Queens  :'(, so if you ever went to a Mets game at Citi Field, you could certainly catch the 7express there  :)
2 & 3 (7th avenue line) go directly from Penn Station to Barclay's Center.  A block away from Penn Station at Harold Square (Broadway & 33rd St) the N, R & Q (Broadway line) and the B & D (6th Avenue lines) go to Barclay's Center as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 21, 2015, 03:27:19 PM
Jon Patron is making a big Impact as a Freshman the last couple of games.
That is trouble for the rest of the SUNYAC.
He comes from a great HS basketball program at Harborfields.
There seems to be a pecking order at Plattsburgh and most freshman don't get a lot of minutes.
He will be fun to watch the rest of the way.
Coach Curle seems to get a lot of talent from Downstate NY.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: 7express on December 21, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 12:46:08 AM
Quote from: 7express on December 20, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Brockports upcoming opponent is the feature story today in D3HOOPS!  http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2015/12/wrapup-1219

John Carroll is 9-0 and off until they face the Golden Eagles in Daytona Fla on Dec 29th (whats with all the Florida trips??).  Did someone say "quality win" opportunity ahead for B-Port/'Yac??  Go Yac...B-Port!!   ;)

I put that game on my schedule this week for the D3 national pick em league schedule.  Giving some much deserved love to the 'YAC, don't let me down!

As for my name: the 7 subway in New York, one of the few subway lines that has express service, hence 7express :)

I'm curious to see who's gonna pick Brockport to win in pick em league.  I'm betting that Magicman will!

Oh and on behalf of the 'Yac .... The "Love" is appreciated

If no one else picks them, I certainly will.

Can't catch the 7 to Barclay's :(  7 goes out to Queens  :'(, so if you ever went to a Mets game at Citi Field, you could certainly catch the 7express there  :)
2 & 3 (7th avenue line) go directly from Penn Station to Barclay's Center.  A block away from Penn Station at Harold Square (Broadway & 33rd St) the N, R & Q (Broadway line) and the B & D (6th Avenue lines) go to Barclay's Center as well.

Now there's a guy who knows his way around the city.  Thanks. I hate looking like a tourist when I walk up to either the maps or boothling and ask "how do I get to the Barclay"??🙃🙃
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 10:07:48 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 21, 2015, 02:33:24 PM
So once again Kyle Richardson has another big week to put him in position to be named the SUNYAC Player of the Week. This is the 3rd time that Kyle has a chance to be honored with the weekly award. The question is....will he finally get it? Or will it be snatched from him once again, this time by his own teammate, Jon Patron. Here's the story:

Kyle's 2 game totals:

12-19 against Stevenson                21 pts. (7x16 fg, 3x9 3's, 4x4 ft)  15 rebounds, 1 block, 1 steal 
12-20 against UMass-Dartmouth    26 pts. (11-18 fg, 0x2 3's, 4-5 ft) 10 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 steals, 1 asst

Jon's 2 game totals:

12-19 against Stevenson                22 pts. (9x15 fg, 2x4 3's, 2x2 ft) 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal
12-20 against UMass-Dartmouth    27 pts. (10x12 fg, 2x3 3's, 5x7 ft) 9 reb. 1 asst, 1 steal, 1 block

Points:         Jon  49   Kyle  47
Rebounds:   Kyle 25   Jon  16
Blocks:         Kyle 4     Jon  1
Steals:         Kyle 3     Jon  2
Assists:        Jon  3    Kyle  1
FG%            Jon 19x27  70.3%   Kyle 18x34 52.9%
3FG%          Jon 4x7      57.1%   Kyle 3x11   27.2%
FT%            Kyle 8x9     88.8%   Jon  7x9     77.7%
Minutes       Kyle 40 & 34 =74     Jon 28 & 19 = 47

While Jon outscored Kyle by 2 points total, Kyle had 9 more rebounds than Jon. Kyle's shooting percentages weren't as good as Jon's but Kyle played quite a few more minutes than Jon did. Once again it is a pretty close race to decide the POTW winner.

My vote goes to Kyle because he's been denied twice before when he deserved it. Enough is enough. The YAC needs to show him, some respect....finally!!!

But Jon Patron certainly has the stats to command a POTW award...I just hope he can duplicate this 2 game outburst in the near future and claim the weekly honor. Just think that Kyle shouldn't be overlooked a 3rd time. Then again maybe overlooking Kyle is what drives him.  ??? If that's the case...then give it to Jon. ;D       

Hmmmm Monday has come and , is almost, gone and no POW. Fear not OWM1. Last year, for some strange reason, the final POW of the week came out on Tuesday, Dec 22nd (after the previous 1's were on Monday 12/14, 12/7 etc...). May have to wait another day before your Card (s) get their award! Its coming though!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 22, 2015, 01:10:52 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
Now there's a guy who knows his way around the city.  Thanks. I hate looking like a tourist when I walk up to either the maps or boothling and ask "how do I get to the Barclay"??🙃🙃

LOL back in high school when I used to go down there a lot, I used to know all the subways, where they went better then I knew the back of my hands.  Now that real world has interfered with all the youthful fun, I don't get in there as often, so had to check to make sure what I was gonna send you was correct because I didn't want to send you out to Rockaway, Queens or Coney Island with the wrong subway  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 10:42:51 AM
Quote from: 7express on December 22, 2015, 01:10:52 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2015, 07:27:26 PM
Now there's a guy who knows his way around the city.  Thanks. I hate looking like a tourist when I walk up to either the maps or boothling and ask "how do I get to the Barclay"??🙃🙃

LOL back in high school when I used to go down there a lot, I used to know all the subways, where they went better then I knew the back of my hands.  Now that real world has interfered with all the youthful fun, I don't get in there as often, so had to check to make sure what I was gonna send you was correct because I didn't want to send you out to Rockaway, Queens or Coney Island with the wrong subway  ;D

And I appreciate the "subway double check"!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 10:46:55 AM
Ooowweeeee.  Wait until Magicman sees who the Player of the Week is!?!?  Hint ...( I'm a pretty good predictor).  However I'm gonna let the Magic 1 do the honors!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2015, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 10:46:55 AM
Ooowweeeee.  Wait until Magicman sees who the Player of the Week is!?!?  Hint ...( I'm a pretty good predictor).  However I'm gonna let the Magic 1 do the honors!!

Finally the honors Kyle Richardson has deserved for much of this year comes his way as he is named the SUNYAC Player of the Week
Here's the write up from the SUNYAC page:

"Kyle Richardson keyed the Cardinals to a 2-0 weekend in Miami at the HoopMIA D3 Holiday Shootout. On Saturday against Stevenson, the senior put up 21 points to go along with a game-high 15 rebounds. Richardson showed his dominance early in Sunday's game against UMass Dartmouth, scoring 22 points in the first half alone on 9-of-11 shooting. He would finish the afternoon with 26 points and 10 rebounds as the Cardinals went on to win, 99-95. Richardson collected his fifth double-double in eight games played thus far."


To complete his double-double and top the week off, Kyle was also named to the D3hoops Team of the Week. Here's the write up from the D3hoops front page article:

"Richardson keyed the Cardinals to a 2-0 weekend in Miami at the HoopMIA D3 Holiday Shootout, averaging 23.5 points on 52.9 percent shooting. He also went 8-for-9 from the free throw line and averaged 12.5 rebounds over those two games. On Saturday against Stevenson, the senior put up 21 points to go along with a game-high 15 rebounds. Richardson showed his dominance early in Sunday's game against UMass Dartmouth, scoring 22 points in the first half alone on 9-of-11 shooting. He would finish the afternoon with 26 points, 10 rebounds, and three blocks as the Cardinals went on to win, 99-95."


It wouldn't surprise me if he hit the trifecta and received weekly honors from the ECAC as well.

Congratulations Kyle.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2015, 11:14:44 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 10:46:55 AM
Ooowweeeee.  Wait until Magicman sees who the Player of the Week is!?!?  Hint ...( I'm a pretty good predictor).  However I'm gonna let the Magic 1 do the honors!!

Finally the honors Kyle Richardson has deserved for much of this year comes his way as he is named the SUNYAC Player of the Week
Here's the write up from the SUNYAC page:

"Kyle Richardson keyed the Cardinals to a 2-0 weekend in Miami at the HoopMIA D3 Holiday Shootout. On Saturday against Stevenson, the senior put up 21 points to go along with a game-high 15 rebounds. Richardson showed his dominance early in Sunday's game against UMass Dartmouth, scoring 22 points in the first half alone on 9-of-11 shooting. He would finish the afternoon with 26 points and 10 rebounds as the Cardinals went on to win, 99-95. Richardson collected his fifth double-double in eight games played thus far."


To complete his double-double and top the week off, Kyle was also named to the D3hoops Team of the Week. Here's the write up from the D3hoops front page article:

"Richardson keyed the Cardinals to a 2-0 weekend in Miami at the HoopMIA D3 Holiday Shootout, averaging 23.5 points on 52.9 percent shooting. He also went 8-for-9 from the free throw line and averaged 12.5 rebounds over those two games. On Saturday against Stevenson, the senior put up 21 points to go along with a game-high 15 rebounds. Richardson showed his dominance early in Sunday's game against UMass Dartmouth, scoring 22 points in the first half alone on 9-of-11 shooting. He would finish the afternoon with 26 points, 10 rebounds, and three blocks as the Cardinals went on to win, 99-95."


It wouldn't surprise me if he hit the trifecta and received weekly honors from the ECAC as well.

Congratulations Kyle.

SUNYAC POW and  D3Hoops Team of the week (national team of the week for those who aren't familiar). Quite the honor. I can't remember the last Yac player to make D3Hoops team of the week, (Ill wait for magic to reveal that). ECAC is just a foregone conclusion (if you ask me)! ;)

Congrats to Mr. Richardson!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2015, 12:02:07 PM

Quotes from All-Time
Jon Patron is making a big Impact as a Freshman the last couple of games.                                               He is

That is trouble for the rest of the SUNYAC.                                                                                                   I hope so

He comes from a great HS basketball program at Harborfields.                                                                          So true

There seems to be a pecking order at Plattsburgh and most freshman don't get a lot of minutes.     There is and they don't, usually

He will be fun to watch the rest of the way.                                                                                                          He will, indeed

Coach Curle seems to get a lot of talent from Downstate NY                                                                        He does and always has                                                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2015, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
SUNYAC POW and  D3Hoops Team of the week (national team of the week for those who aren't familiar). Quite the honor. I can't remember the last Yac player to make D3Hoops team of the week, (I'll wait for magic to reveal that). ECAC is just a foregone conclusion (if you ask me)! ;)

The last time a SUNYAC player was placed on the D3hoops Team of the Week was RJ Rosa from New Paltz State last January 13th for games of January 5th thru the 11th of 2015. he was the only SUNYAC player to be honored last year.

Previous to that it was Kevin McMahon from Cortland State on the final regular season week of 2 seasons ago 2013-2014 for the week of Feb. 17th thru the 23rd of 2014.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2015, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
SUNYAC POW and  D3Hoops Team of the week (national team of the week for those who aren't familiar). Quite the honor. I can't remember the last Yac player to make D3Hoops team of the week, (I'll wait for magic to reveal that). ECAC is just a foregone conclusion (if you ask me)! ;)

The last time a SUNYAC player was placed on the D3hoops Team of the Week was RJ Rosa from New Paltz State last January 13th for games of January 5th thru the 11th of 2015. he was the only SUNYAC player to be honored last year.

Previous to that it was Kevin McMahon from Cortland State on the final regular season week of 2 seasons ago 2013-2014 for the week of Feb. 17th thru the 23rd of 2014.

What took you sooo long to pull that up??   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2015, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
SUNYAC POW and  D3Hoops Team of the week (national team of the week for those who aren't familiar). Quite the honor. I can't remember the last Yac player to make D3Hoops team of the week, (I'll wait for magic to reveal that). ECAC is just a foregone conclusion (if you ask me)! ;)

The last time a SUNYAC player was placed on the D3hoops Team of the Week was RJ Rosa from New Paltz State last January 13th for games of January 5th thru the 11th of 2015. he was the only SUNYAC player to be honored last year.

Previous to that it was Kevin McMahon from Cortland State on the final regular season week of 2 seasons ago 2013-2014 for the week of Feb. 17th thru the 23rd of 2014.

What took you sooo long to pull that up??   ;)

I'm at work and had to wait on some customers. It is Christmas season you know and some of us do have to work for a living. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 22, 2015, 01:52:12 PM
Congratulations to Kyle Richardson on POW in the SUNYAC and D3 Hoops Team of the Week.
2 well deserved honors, hoping for the trifecta.
Keep up the Great Work
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2015, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
SUNYAC POW and  D3Hoops Team of the week (national team of the week for those who aren't familiar). Quite the honor. I can't remember the last Yac player to make D3Hoops team of the week, (I'll wait for magic to reveal that). ECAC is just a foregone conclusion (if you ask me)! ;)

The last time a SUNYAC player was placed on the D3hoops Team of the Week was RJ Rosa from New Paltz State last January 13th for games of January 5th thru the 11th of 2015. he was the only SUNYAC player to be honored last year.

Previous to that it was Kevin McMahon from Cortland State on the final regular season week of 2 seasons ago 2013-2014 for the week of Feb. 17th thru the 23rd of 2014.

What took you sooo long to pull that up??   ;)

I'm at work and had to wait on some customers. It is Christmas season you know and some of us do have to work for a living. ;D

"Work".... smurck. Wait till I meet your boss and tell him how you are posting on D3Hoops all day long. :o :o :o I bet he won't be happy (unless he is a Plattsburgh Cards fan!). 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2015, 03:11:59 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
"Work".... smurck. Wait till I meet your boss and tell him how you are posting on D3Hoops all day long. :o :o :o I bet he won't be happy (unless he is a Plattsburgh Cards fan!).

Says the guy who's either on this board, on the phone, taking in a Bengal's practice, or waiting in line at drive through fast food joints. No wonder he can say work...smurck.....he's never at work. ::) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 04:44:49 PM
And now my 1ST Annual PRE-XMAS - SUNYAC PREDICITIONS.

This season looks like 1 in which the SUNYAC may compete with some of the more elite conferences when it comes to depth and overall strength of the conference.

I predict for the 1st time, in 5 years,  there will be  a 4 way tie for first at the end of the regular season between .....

OSWEGO                                                             PLATTSBURGH                                                              BUFFALO STATE                                                                   BROCKPORT

Brockport has plenty of firepower, 4 of top 6 scorers, returning from last year including all SUNYAC slasher, Lyerly.
Oswego returns 5 of its 6 tops scorers from 2014-15 season
Plattsburgh has Richardson, Correa, Thomas, Patron, Coach Curle (and the magicman) returning so it hard to count out a crew like that.
Buffalo State has the deepest team in the SUNYAC which could pay big dividends as the season wears on its players

I also believe that the contenders for the last 2 playoffs spots, and possibly a top 4 spot,  could be between......

CORTLAND                                                           ONEONTA                                                                      NEW PALTZ                                                                     GENESEO
Geneseo loses top scorer and top rebounder in SUNYAC last year and the #5 scorer too (Lyons and Drescher) and fills those spots with 2 more scorers this year (Ringen and Decker). Experience and time will tell.
Cortland loses leading scoror, Herron and leading rebounder, McGowan, and yet Esterfaa and co. still have them running on all cylinders. Recent injury bug may be the Achilles heel of the Red Dragons though
Oneonta loses leading scorer, Z Mager, and leading rebounder, K. Williams. However Larry Coleman and Mikey McElroy are helping Red Dragon fans forget about what they have lost from last season.
New Paltz, in a good or bad season, is the 1 team that can beat anyone, on any day, at any gym. Its been that way for years. This year is no different!

last but certainly not least

POTSDAM                                                                                                                                                   FREDONIA

Potsdam has 9 freshman and 3 sophomores on their 17 man roster. This may be their breakout year however I'm thinking that Coach Dobbs is planning for the future!
Fredonia has 9 underclassmen ( 6 frosh/3 sophs) and a 1 man wrecking crew in Ian Help (top 12 in scoring and rebounding in Yac). Coach Seymore is slowly putting his brand on the Blue Devils program!

If either Potsdam or Fredonia get out then watch out!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
 
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2015, 03:11:59 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
"Work".... smurck. Wait till I meet your boss and tell him how you are posting on D3Hoops all day long. :o :o :o I bet he won't be happy (unless he is a Plattsburgh Cards fan!).

Says the guy who's either on this board, on the phone, taking in a Bengal's practice, or waiting in line at drive through fast food joints. No wonder he can say work...smurck.....he's never at work. ::)

:-\ :-X :-[ :P    ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 23, 2015, 01:26:44 AM
Here's an interesting stat. The 4th ranked school in the country in scoring defense is Oswego State. The Lakers are only giving up 57.4 ppg.

The #1 ranked school in the nation in scoring defense is another SUNY school but not a member of the SUNYAC conference. Allowing a puny 56.5 points per game is SUNY-Canton, an independent in their first year as a full member of Division III.

They are 1st in field goal percentage defense as well, only allowing schools to shoot 32.6 % from the field.The 8-0 Kangaroos are also one of 15 unbeaten teams left in DIII.

The Roos own wins over 2 Empire 8 schools, Utica College and Houghton, Liberty League school, Clarkson (2 wins over the Golden Knights), SUNYAC school, Potsdam State, NEAC school, SUNYIT and AMCC school, D'Youville. The Roos haven't played a particularly difficult schedule beating up a bunch of schools with losing records but they have taken care of business with their only close games being a 77-73 win at 5-3 Houghton and a 78-71 win over Clarkson the 2nd time they played them. They will face a 5-2 NESCAC school, Connecticut College, after Christmas and possibly a 6-2 Staten Island team, in the 2nd game of a holiday tournament at Staten Island.

It will be interesting to see where the Roos end up in a year or two as they will probably look to gain acceptance into a conference in the East Region. I'm guessing the NEAC conference since they have 2 unbalanced divisions. Currently 1 division has 7 teams and 1 division has 6 teams. The division with 6 teams has the schools that are the closest to Canton so that would work out for the league and the Kangaroos.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 23, 2015, 05:12:59 AM
Updating the SUNYAC non-conference record of all games through December 22nd.

SUNYAC record vs Non-Conference opponents is 36-24 This includes 3 games against non-DIII teams. Buffalo State has 1 win and 1 loss against 2 schools that are not members of the NCAA and Geneseo State has 1 loss against Division II Roberts Wesleyan. These 3 games won't count in our NCAA record.


YAC record vs Non-Conference NCAA DIII Teams 35-22  Top 7 schools are 33-5 . Bottom 3 schools are 2-17

magicman's predictions all games (includes conference games)    54-14 (79.4%)
SUNYAC games         6-2 


Massey has ranked the SUNYAC 19th out of 47 conferences. This is a bit misleading because Massey for some strange reason has in his rankings the American Southwest Conference East which has 6 teams at #7. The American Southwest Conference West which has 5 teams at #9 and the American Southwest Conference with 12 teams at #13. D3 hoops doesn't split this conference and neither does the NCAA. And if you are going to split the conference, why list it again with 12 teams? The NCAA only gives the ASC 1 automatic bid among the entire conference.  In reality there are 44 conferences and a group of independents listed as a conference to make a total of 45 not 47. Massey giving the American Southwest Conference 3 different spots instead of 1 skews things a bit. Especially when all 3 of the spots he gives to the ASC are ranked ahead of us. ??? When you assign the ASC 1 placement instead of 3 the SUNYAC is really the 17 ranked conference out of 45. I hope everybody can follow that. Also there are at least 3 conferences that Massey has ranked ahead of us that I would question and think we should be in front of.                                                                                                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 23, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
Well done Magic 1.  Got it!!!!! :).  I cant figure out why the Yac is slipping in Massey????  I'm hoping that after Yac victories over (hopefully)  John Carroll (vs Brockport) , Central ( vs Oneonta), New Jersey City ( vs Buff State), Trinity college ( vs Plattsburgh)  and a couple of others, that the Sunyac ranking will rise!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 23, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 23, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
Well done Magic 1.  Got it!!!!! :).  I cant figure out why the Yac is slipping in Massey????  I'm hoping that after Yac victories over (hopefully)  John Carroll (vs Brockport) , Central ( vs Oneonta), New Jersey City ( vs Buff State), Trinity college ( vs Plattsburgh)  and a couple of others, that the Sunyac ranking will rise!

I'll be happy if we can win 2 of those 4 games. I think Oneonta and Buffalo State have the best chances of getting a W.

12-29
Buff State is favored by 2 points over NJ City. I think the Bengals will win this game as long as they get in some good practice time prior to the game. Both the Bengals and the Gothic Knights will have been off since December 12th.

12-28
Oneonta is a 6 point underdog against Central but I think that's because of Central's 8-1 record. I think that 8-1 record has been forged against some rather lackluster competition. Maybe I'm wrong and the Dutch are as good as their record but I think the Red Dragons have faced tougher teams up and down their schedule.

12-29
Brockport is a 9 point underdog against John Carroll. They will have a tough time against the Blue Streaks. They are ranked #10 for a reason. For the Golden Eagles to get a win here,they will have to play a solid, relatively turnover free game. And John Carroll comes at you in waves, maybe better than Brockport does.


There are several other games of note.

12-28
Brockport plays Bridgewater State out of the MASCAC conference on December 28th and the Golden Eagles will be a big favorite to win that game. Cortland beat this team by a 100-67 score back on November 21st.

12-29
Oneonta will face Gustavus Adolphus also in Puerto Rico. This game is not listed on the D3hoops Oneonta schedule but the Red Dragons website has them tipping off at 5 PM that day. I knew Oneonta didn't go all the way to Puerto Rico to play 1 game. Yet the D3hoops SUNYAC schedule doesn't show it either. The Gusties are listed as a 1 point favorite. They play Vassar College on the 28th. We'll get some idea of their strength when that game is over.

12-30
Buffalo State vs Lehman College or Western Connecticut. I'm thinking that the Bengals will play Lehman if they win their game against NJ City. They will face Western Connecticut if they lose to the Gothic Knights. I think that the host school, Lehman, will beat Western and advance to the championship game of their own tournament. Lehman already owns a win over Brooklyn College when they were ranked number 17 in the country. Brooklyn College had beaten New Jersey City and William Paterson of the NJAC to name a few of their wins. Bengals could have a tough matchup here if they do get to the Championship game. If they face Western, probably in the consi, I think they should win that contest.

1-2-16
Cortland at Medaille in the final non-conference game for the Red Dragons. Cortland is a 6 point favorite against the Mavericks who played Geneseo tight, before bowing 89-85. They also own a lopsided win over Fredonia, so Medaiile will be looking to go 2-1 in the YAC for the year. We can't have that.

1-2-16
New Paltz will meet it's counterpart in the New Jersey Athletic Conference, Kean University just after the New Year. We get 2 of the better teams in the YAC and NJAC matching up when Buff State takes on New Jersey City on 12-29...now we get 2 teams in the lower ranks of their respective conferences meeting up. The Kean Cougars are 1-8 and will most certainly be 1-9 by the time January 2nd rolls around. Their next opponent, on December 28th, is Division I Boston University. The Cougars won't win that game but they will get some valuable floor time to help shake off the rust of a 2 week layoff. The Hawks won't be so lucky as they will face Kean coming off a 24 day layoff. The game is at Kean as well so the oddsmakers have made the Cougars a slight favorite.

1-4-16
The final non-conference game of the year for the SUNYAC is Plattsburgh State taking on the reigning NESCAC regular season champs in Trinity College. The Bantams return 7 players from last year's rotation that averaged double digit minutes and this year have 10 players that see that much floor time. We will have our hands full. Hopefully we can pull out a win and partially gain some measure of revenge against the NESCAC for our loss to Middlebury.
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 23, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
One thing for sure....there are TWO working stiffs that spend a great deal of time on this board and like to show off their "colorful" technical skills.
Guess I can take an online course to get some comparable skills....do not have the time :). Need to take periodic naps after doing chores about the house and spending time on the boards ???
Carry-on Guys!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 24, 2015, 01:22:42 AM
Quote from: amh63 on December 23, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
One thing for sure....there are TWO working stiffs that spend a great deal of time on this board and like to show off their "colorful" technical skills.
Guess I can take an online course to get some comparable skills....do not have the time :). Need to take periodic naps after doing chores about the house and spending time on the boards ???
Carry-on Guys!

+ k ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 24, 2015, 02:48:55 AM
Don't mess with the Magicman....the guy always knows!!! :D
Except Bengalsrule can mess with him a little bit?? hehe
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2015, 03:02:37 AM
Quote from: with age came? on December 24, 2015, 02:48:55 AM
Don't mess with the Magicman....the guy always knows!!! :D
Except Bengalsrule can mess with him a little bit?? hehe

And the magicman has his eye on you even at 3 o'clock in the morning!  ;D  Plus K
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on December 24, 2015, 03:07:02 AM
Don't you ever sleep??   :o
I'm waiting to get number 1 daughter from her delayed flight at the airport so at least I have an excuse??? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2015, 03:10:36 AM
Quote from: with age came? on December 24, 2015, 03:07:02 AM
Don't you ever sleep??   :o
I'm waiting to get number 1 daughter from her delayed flight at the airport so at least I have an excuse??? ;)

I do sleep...every 3rd day. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 24, 2015, 09:58:49 AM
Magicman you never cease to amaze me with your information and knowledge about D3 Hoops.
You definitely missed your calling, you should have been a Sportscaster and given Dick Vitale a run for his money.
You might sleep every 3rd day but I'm sure with 1 eye open.

A few quick predictions:
On 12/28 I have Brockport crushing Bridgewater State
Oneonta will have it's hands full with Central, There front line is pretty big, but Kareem Williams is back with Oneonta for the 2nd semester and will be playing in Puerto Rico. If Williams, Coleman and McElroy can control the boards I have Oneonta squeezing out a win here.

12/29
I have Brockport knocking off John Carroll in a high scoring affair.
Buffalo State beating NJ City and Oneonta coming off a big win the day before knocking off Gustavus Adolphus.
I might have to take the subway up to Lehman College a say hello to Benglesrule and see for myself how good this team is.

I wanted to wish all of you guys a Very Merry Christmas. Enjoy the time with your families.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2015, 11:14:51 AM
Thanks for the compliments All-Time. I do love Division III basketball and my close association with the Plattsburgh State program helps fuel my passion. I played on numerous teams throughout high school and college. I also did some sportswriting in college where I was the sports editor of the school newspaper and college yearbook. I became a basketball official after college but when I left that part of the state I didn't sign up with the local board in the area I moved to and retired from officiating after only a few years. But yeah sports has always been in my blood and basketball was tops on my list. Living in a city with a DIII team certainly helps and it's even better when it's a team from the conference you grew up with.

Merry Christmas to you and your family. Tell the older son I said hello. I will be sending you an overdue PM later today so be on the lookout for it when you get a chance.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 24, 2015, 11:23:45 AM
Merry Christmas everyone--Scooterman is back in town. Magic I love your predictions for my Bport Eagles. I am going to get to see them play over in Daytona Beach as I live about an hour an a half away. I am very excited to see them live. I think they are a very good team that has potential to be a contender in the SUNYAC. I think they are going to have their big man from last season available to them. He should give them some added muscle inside. Anyway, enjoy all, and looking for a big week from my Eagles!!!! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 24, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Magicman
None of that surprises me. You have an unbelievable passion for the game and I love to read your posts.
You must have been a great editor and writer for your college newspaper. I would have loved to read some of your editorials and columns.
I'm sure you were president of the Ref's association as well.
I'm a basketball junky and can't get enough of it so to be able to read up on the SUNYAC each week is fantastic, it's as if I were at the games.
I'm glad my daughter is playing HS basketball and will eventually play in college so I have 7 years left to watch her play.
Then I can retire and move to a college town to get my fix.
I will be on the lookout later today and let him know you say hello.
Enjoy the Holidays

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 24, 2015, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 24, 2015, 09:58:49 AM
Magicman you never cease to amaze me with your information and knowledge about D3 Hoops.
You definitely missed your calling, you should have been a Sportscaster and given Dick Vitale a run for his money.
You might sleep every 3rd day but I'm sure with 1 eye open.

A few quick predictions:
On 12/28 I have Brockport crushing Bridgewater State
Oneonta will have it's hands full with Central, There front line is pretty big, but Kareem Williams is back with Oneonta for the 2nd semester and will be playing in Puerto Rico. If Williams, Coleman and McElroy can control the boards I have Oneonta squeezing out a win here.

12/29
I have Brockport knocking off John Carroll in a high scoring affair.
Buffalo State beating NJ City and Oneonta coming off a big win the day before knocking off Gustavus Adolphus.
I might have to take the subway up to Lehman College a say hello to Benglesrule and see for myself how good this team is.

I wanted to wish all of you guys a Very Merry Christmas. Enjoy the time with your families.

All time, did I ever tell you that I love your predictions?!?!  You gotta post more often, especially when you have inside info like Kareem Williams coming back!!  He was definitely a force in the middle in D!
I'm sure hoping that all of the Sunyac finishes string this coming week!

If you are coming up Lehman, then please let me know. I planned on making the journey myself ( need my Bengals fix after 2 weeks off)! Plus I have a sister in Manhattan and a brother in Brooklyn .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 24, 2015, 06:33:16 PM
Merry Christmas to all the SUNYAC regulars! Magicman and Bengalsrule can take the day off.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2015, 08:13:18 PM
Silent night, all is bright the magicman will sleep tonight....maybe!

Merry Christmas to all my fellow posters and to everyone who drops by this board to check on SUNYAC news.

I hope everybody is experiencing the mild weather that we are getting here in Plattsburgh. 65 degrees today and partly sunny. All three golf courses in the area were open for business today and will be through the weekend. Strange Days but I'm not complaining. A year ago at the end of November, my friend in Buffalo was buried by a snowstorm of historic proportion that took him weeks to dig out from and caused cancellations of basketball games some of which were never rescheduled. I'm sure all the residents of the Queen City prefer this December to the ones they've had for the past 2 years.

Hope everyone was good and they get what they were hoping for this Christmas. Enjoy the holiday. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2015, 08:18:10 PM
Quote from: scooterman on December 24, 2015, 11:23:45 AM
Merry Christmas everyone--Scooterman is back in town. Magic I love your predictions for my Bport Eagles. I am going to get to see them play over in Daytona Beach as I live about an hour an a half away. I am very excited to see them live. I think they are a very good team that has potential to be a contender in the SUNYAC. I think they are going to have their big man from last season available to them. He should give them some added muscle inside. Anyway, enjoy all, and looking for a big week from my Eagles!!!!

scooterman,
You don't come on here as much as you should. Stop playing so much golf and visit this board more often and comment.  ???

Give your buddy Coach Dunne a high five for me when you see him. Looks like he's got another good team this year. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 24, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 24, 2015, 08:18:10 PM
Quote from: scooterman on December 24, 2015, 11:23:45 AM
Merry Christmas everyone--Scooterman is back in town. Magic I love your predictions for my Bport Eagles. I am going to get to see them play over in Daytona Beach as I live about an hour an a half away. I am very excited to see them live. I think they are a very good team that has potential to be a contender in the SUNYAC. I think they are going to have their big man from last season available to them. He should give them some added muscle inside. Anyway, enjoy all, and looking for a big week from my Eagles!!!!

scooterman,
You don't come on here as much as you should. Stop playing so much golf and visit this board more often and comment.  ???

Give your buddy Coach Dunne a high five for me when you see him. Looks like he's got another good team this year.

Scooter man, ditto to what Magicman said! 

And Merry Xmas and Happy Holidays to all.  Good folks like you guys make the SUNYAC board one of the best ( and I actually went over each region today for the first time).  There are some pretty dreary boards (no posts since March other than hoopsville announcements ) and some pretty classless posters in others.  I'm glad that our board has none of that!


Go SUNYAC!
Go BENGALS!

Peace
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2015, 07:34:18 AM
Still no announcement by the ECAC on who the Players of Week were for the week ending December 20th. They were supposed to make that public knowledge on Dcember 22nd but somebody there fell asleep at the wheel or they just decided not to have a POTW for that week.  :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2015, 08:04:15 AM
Latest Massey rankings for the SUNYAC's Top Teams:

Oswego State         52

Plattsburgh State   59

Geneseo State        60

Brockport State      71

Oneonta State        82

Cortland State        88

Buffalo State          102

Hopefully we will see some upward mobility by some of these teams  after the upcoming tournaments.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 25, 2015, 12:43:35 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 24, 2015, 06:33:16 PM
Merry Christmas to all the SUNYAC regulars! Magicman and Bengalsrule can take the day off.  ;D

I will follow your advice PG04!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 25, 2015, 01:14:48 PM
Not a regular here....just enough to agree that this board has classy and knowledgeable posters.  Almost feel that I could be as all three of my kids live in NYState ???.  Two sons in Brooklyn Heights/DUMBO presently, and daughter near Ithaca.  Does watch local college sports....Ithaca, Cortland State, Cornell and Hamilton football when I visit.
Anyway....Merry Christmas...Happy Holidays.  My daughter's family is on the way down and will bring the best present!  My grand daughter who I hope will reach at least 5'10"...maybe play WBB and/or Vollyball ;D.
Just checking in....as I cannot remember if I posted Season Greetings.  Magicman is aware of my mental "problems".  Called ne out on another board :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2015, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 25, 2015, 01:14:48 PM
Not a regular here....just enough to agree that this board has classy and knowledgeable posters.  Almost feel that I could be as all three of my kids live in NYState ???.  Two sons in Brooklyn Heights/DUMBO presently, and daughter near Ithaca.  Does watch local college sports....Ithaca, Cortland State, Cornell and Hamilton football when I visit.
Anyway....Merry Christmas...Happy Holidays.  My daughter's family is on the way down and will bring the best present!  My grand daughter who I hope will reach at least 5'10"...maybe play WBB and/or Vollyball ;D.
Just checking in....as I cannot remember if I posted Season Greetings.  Magicman is aware of my mental "problems".  Called me out on another board :P

amh63,
You come here often enough that we consider you a regular. Hope you get your wish and your grand daughter shoots up there. Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 26, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
Merry Christmas Magic, Bengals & all the other 'YAC lurkers!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 26, 2015, 01:32:39 AM
Quote from: 7express on December 26, 2015, 12:04:50 AM
Merry Christmas Magic, Bengals & all the other 'YAC lurkers!

Thanks 7express!  Here's to hoping that you and all Yac posters had a special 1!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2015, 01:05:30 AM
Coache's vs Cancer announcement, for the Bengals visit to Lehman college, almost makes Buff State the also ran before the whistle.....
Lehman website........
"While on the men's side, three of the four teams enter the tournament atop their respective league.  Lehman is leading the CUNYAC at 8-2 overall and 4-0 in conference play.  Western Connecticut sits at 6-3 and 2-0 in the Little East.  Jersey City is a perfect 5-0 in NJAC play and 7-2 overall while Buffalo State is 5-2 overall and 1-1 in the SUNYAC.  The four teams in the men's tournament come to the Bronx with a combined 26-9."

I guess not leading the Sunyac is a bad thing but damn did you have to say it like that? >:(. Boys are on the road at 3 pm. I think that I'll go wish them well! I gotta believe a 4 team tourney with a combined 74.2% win rate,must rank near the top of holiday tourneys this week. It's been a long 2 weeks off. Seeing my boys back in the gym today was a beautiful site!  Coach Glover reminded me that Buff State is 10-0 over the past 5 holiday tournaments dating back to before thier Sweet 16 run. :)

Yac is back starting today with Brockport and Oneonta getting started!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 02:16:11 PM
Games on Monday, December 28th   

Oneonta State  vs  Central    3:00 PM    @ San Juan, Puerto Rico

A little fun in the sun for the Red Dragons with a basketball game or two as part of the vacation. I hope the boys from the northern climate take care of business today and tomorrow before they head to the beach to party. As I mentioned several days ago on this site, Central comes into this game with a gaudy 8-1 record but has gained it at the expense of lesser competition than that, faced by the Red Dragons. They have a wealth of 6'5" to 6'7" players, all capable of putting points on the board, as they have 5 guys averaging from 9.8 ppg to 24.1 ppg. They have 10 players that get at least 11 minutes of court time per game, so they are deep as well as tall. The Dutch average 90.7 ppg and have limited the opposition to 72.8 ppg. They have really had only 2 close games, a 107-102 loss to Nebraska Wesleyan, a DIII independent college, that plays very few DIII schools because of their geography, and a 72-70 win over NAIA DI Grand View U. out of Des Moines, Iowa.

The Red Dragons welcome back the services of last year's leading rebounder, Kareem Williams, who could be a difference maker in today's contest. I certainly have to believe that Oneonta will be a better team with Kareem in the lineup than they have been all year. The added height will come in handy at just the right moment also. Oneonta counters the Dutch with a number of players that can get hot in a hurry. Lawrence Coleman, Mikey McElroy, Jackson Zuvic, Jack Dignan, and now Williams can all score in double digits and with Williams back on board have 10 players that will average more than 10 minutes per game in playing time.
   
Central is favored in this game by a 6 point margin and on paper look like the winners, but as Hall and Oates once sang... 'I can't go for that", so I'm taking the Red Dragons to win this track meet by an 85-81 final     


   
Bridgewater State  vs  Brockport State        5:00 PM   @ Daytona Beach, Fla.

The Golden Eagles may get to play a game in Brockport at some point this year but it won't be this week. It's not often that a team gets to play its entire non-conference schedule on the road, yet somehow the Golden Eagles managed to do just that. These are probably the only two games they wanted to play on the road.

Bridgewater State looks to be up against it in this matchup today. The Bears come into this game with a 3-5 record and 4 of those losses have been by double digits. The most telling loss is the 100-67 monkey stomping that Cortland put on the Bears.

BPort should do likewise although Coach Dunne may take his foot off the gas early enough that the final margin may be smaller that 33 points. The oddsmakers have Brockport favored by a 13 point margin but I think they will win this one by a score of 83-61.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 28, 2015, 03:46:51 PM
Oneonta down at the half 37-31 to Central.
Slow start for Oneonta, but they seem to be getting into their groove.
Central moves the ball well on offense and has controlled the boards so far.
McElroy and Dignan seem to be doing a majority of the scoring.
You can get the live stream on Puerto Rico college sports tour.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 28, 2015, 04:00:38 PM
Coleman comes out and hits Three 3's Oneonta up 45-44
15 minutes left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 28, 2015, 04:23:04 PM
Coleman and Zuvic having huge 2nd halfs
Oneonta up 75-71  2 minutes left
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 28, 2015, 04:41:07 PM
Oneonta wins 82-77 over Central in Puerto Rico
I don't have any of the stats, but McElroy, Dignan, Coleman and Zuvic were definitely in double figures.
Big 2nd half's by Coleman and Zuvic were the difference in the game.

I'm sure the Magicman will get all the details.

Big win for the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 04:44:32 PM
I went to look for the video feed for the Daytona Classic that Brockport is playing in and they don't even have video. Isn't this 2015??? Live stats it is.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 05:55:25 PM
Brockport doing nothing close to blowing Bridgewater State out of the proverbial water. Instead, they are down big at the half 36-28. Looks like their minds are out at the beach, Maybe this wasn't the best type of trip for this team?

Couldn't see the game but the stats show that Brockport committed a lot of fouls in the 1st half. Brockport 1-4 on FT attempts while Bridgewater State 13-15. This is the difference in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 06:30:36 PM
The second half has looked much better, as Brockport has scored as much in the first 10 minutes of the half as they did in the 1st half and now Golden Eagles lead 56-53 with 10 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 06:50:45 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 28, 2015, 04:41:07 PM
Oneonta wins 82-77 over Central in Puerto Rico
I don't have any of the stats, but McElroy, Dignan, Coleman and Zuvic were definitely in double figures.
Big 2nd half's by Coleman and Zuvic were the difference in the game.

I'm sure the Magicman will get all the details.

Big win for the Red Dragons.

Great news for the Red Dragons and for the SUNYAC. This team looks to be the top team in a conference that is rated by Massey to be #11 in the country while we are #17. This should help our SOS.

All-Time were you watching or listening to the game? I went to every website of all 4 schools involved in this tournament  and couldn't find a link anywhere. Not even a live stats link. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 06:52:53 PM
Brockport was up by 11 points at 74-63 with 3:30 to go but haven't scored a point since then and it's now 74-71 with 6 seconds to go.

Now the live stats shows 50 seconds to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 06:52:53 PM
Brockport was up by 11 points at 74-63 with 3:30 to go but haven't scored a point since then and it's now 74-71 with 6 seconds to go.

Did you find a video? I got the stats but that's it. I mean for such a big tourney you'd think they could have video.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 06:54:50 PM
No just live stats.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 06:55:39 PM
Looks like some missed FTs down the stretch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 06:55:49 PM
Now 74-73 with 21 seconds left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 06:56:32 PM
Port tips one in by Levi pace to get a 3 point edge.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 06:57:10 PM
That looks to be a final score 76-73 Brockport. Just saw a 0:00 on the clock and 76-73 score.

Now it shows 76-76 with 2 seconds left.   Terrible coverage.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 06:58:38 PM
Nope. Bridgewater tied the game with a 3.

Here's the Free Throws: Brockport 5-13 Bridgewater 25-29. Telling stat.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 06:59:35 PM
Going to overtime. Not what I expected!  :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:00:50 PM
Overtime.

Those refs must have graduated from Bridgeport.

I can't believe I saw this game as being over and then they show it with time left and tied.

Terrible live stats just pitiful.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:02:18 PM
If they were in the 21st century we wouldn't have to rely on it! Even if there was audio for goodness sake.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:06:48 PM
1:25 left in OT and only a bucket for each team so far in OT 78-78.

Clarify: Bridgewater's two points came off of free throws. Of course!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:09:28 PM
Had the same problem last weekend when Plattsburgh State played in Florida. They had video but it was terrible and then all these apps showed up on the screen and reduced the size of the screen to about a 2 inch square. Live stats were all screwed up and they posted the wrong score a half dozen times.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:11:19 PM
Going to Double OT.

Golden Eagles should have put this team away in the first half. Guys must be daydreaming, or sleepwalking. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:12:28 PM
Not going to be good for the 1pm game tomorrow vs. #10 team in the country no matter what the outcome here! Only 2 points apiece in OT is deplorable.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
Brockport has the lead. Hopefully they can keep it and salt this sucker away.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:14:27 PM
Nope they can't.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:17:55 PM
So many free throws...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:18:29 PM
When do they call a foul on the other team?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:19:23 PM
Well now they do but of course they miss the shots. I could do better than hit 1/3 of free throws.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:23:41 PM
Now they've made me pay for complaining by making the last 3 free throws HA. Now in the lead. Hope they can keep it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:25:20 PM
It seems like they each have 6 timeouts per overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:25:27 PM
Golden Eagles getting a home job in Florida by a team from Massachusetts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:28:59 PM
I'm getting a headache trying to just follow the livestats.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:29:41 PM
If Port can make 2 free throws here this game is over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:30:39 PM
3 pointer by Lyerly  that does it.

WTF they just showed Brockport up 93-87 after a Lylerly triple. now it's 90-90 and no tme on the clock this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:31:56 PM
No, the 3 pointer was by Bridgewater LOL, it's 3 OT. At first it showed 93-87 wrongly.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:34:12 PM
unf#@*ing  believable
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:35:02 PM
The game would be over long ago if Brockport had any ability to make free throws consistently. It reminds me of how their football team never has consistent special teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:37:20 PM
Pierre is 3-11 on Free Throws. That is unacceptable and if I were the coach I'd make him stand at the free throw line for hours.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:39:34 PM
This is by far the worst play by play live stats I've ever seen. There is no play by play
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:41:22 PM
And it's always behind or ahead of the score by a possession.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:41:40 PM
Pierre heard you and made 2 free throws.  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:42:33 PM
That's the second time I've complained and something went right.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
Dunn getting Pierre out of the game with the lead and only 23 seconds left. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:46:59 PM
They finally got to the FT shooter that was 100% but then he fouled out haha.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
Well for the third time it looks like Brockport is going to win if the live stats don't lie to us again.

I think the live stats just lied again with the time left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:50:52 PM
Mine's still frozen on 13 seconds  :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:51:10 PM
Is it possible that the game is over?   Yes it is Brockport wins finally by a 100-95 final score....I think.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:51:35 PM
Mine jumped to 100-95. Have fun writing up that game! LOL.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:52:47 PM
By the way after all that it turns out that the Free throw differential only ended up being 4 between the two teams. However most of that came in OT with Bridgewater trying to come back, which they did, 3 times, ugh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:53:08 PM
Can't touch it until a box score comes out and then have to read it with a fine tooth comb. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:54:59 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:52:47 PM
By the way after all that it turns out that the Free throw differential only ended up being 4 between the two teams. However most of that came in OT with Bridgewater trying to come back, which they did, 3 times, ugh.

Yeah I saw that  but it was the difference in regulation that kept the Golden Eagles from putting this team away. Especially when Port was up 74- 63 with 3:32 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:55:29 PM
John Carroll, who didn't have to play today, is licking their chops for this tired team in 17 hours.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:58:15 PM
Also, Mount Union, another ranked team, is in the game that follows this 3OT thriller. Hate for them having to wait around for an extra hour....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:55:29 PM
John Carroll, who didn't have to play today, is licking their chops for this tired team in 17 hours.

So true. I have to choose the winner of that game for my National Pick Em League as it's one of the 10 games on the slate for the week. I was going to take Brockport because I wanted to root for them and I hate choosing against a YAC team. I can't take them now, so I'll take John Carroll and hope Port wins and I lose the game in the league.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
Never liked it when there is a tournament and 1 team has to play back to back days and the team they play on the 2nd day had the day before off. You are giving them a built in advantage before you even step on the court.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 08:04:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 07:55:29 PM
John Carroll, who didn't have to play today, is licking their chops for this tired team in 17 hours.

So true. I have to choose the winner of that game for my National Pick Em League as it's one of the 10 games on the slate for the week. I was going to take Brockport because I wanted to root for them and I hate choosing against a YAC team. I can't take them now, so I'll take John Carroll and hope Port wins and I lose the game in the league.

Definitely the smart play. Even had the game ended in regulation the team still seemed not ready for the Florida sun  8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:09:22 PM
Your guy up next. JJ Kukura for Mount Union. Too bad you can't watch him play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:14:26 PM
Surprise of the day, Vassar College defeats Gustavus Adolphus by a 52-51 final.

Oneonta plays the Gusties tomorrow and I like the Red Dragons to win that game. Vassar lost to the last place New Paltz Hawks by a 70-68 score to open the season. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:17:25 PM
I believe it's safe to make this announcement now. Live stats can't possibly screw up anymore...can they?

Final score from Daytona Beach, Florida in Triple Overtime   Brockport State 100 Bridgewater State 95 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
Haha! The live stats for the new game still has the last plays from the Brockport game in it, with the new teams logos. LOL.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
Paging Bengalsrule...Paging Bengalsrule....Paging Bengalsrule

Champ,
At some point this year someone is going to walk up to you with a message from me and you need to pay attention. You won't know when it will happen but it will occur when you least expect it, somewhere on a court, far far from home.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:09:22 PM
Your guy up next. JJ Kukura for Mount Union. Too bad you can't watch him play.

Your guy comes in off the bench takes 3 shots and is the leading score on the team with 5 of their 15 points
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 08:32:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:09:22 PM
Your guy up next. JJ Kukura for Mount Union. Too bad you can't watch him play.

Your guy comes in off the bench takes 3 shots and is the leading score on the team with 5 of their 15 points

YEah he doesn't start but plays a lot, scores a lot, and rebounds a lot. Must be because he's an underclassman? Not sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
Paging Bengalsrule...Paging Bengalsrule....Paging Bengalsrule

Champ,
At some point this year someone is going to walk up to you with a message from me and you need to pay attention. You won't know when it will happen but it will occur when you least expect it, somewhere on a court, far far from home.

Hmmmm.  Don't know how to take that warning.  I bummed a ride with some friends to NYC so I can see my Bengals play and visit my brother Eric and sister Leecia (wifi reception is real bad heading through Scranton pa right now ). 

Glad to see the Yac went 2 for 2 today. Something tells me that those Golden Eagles might be enjoying the sun a bit too much!  Hopefully coach Dunn has an early curfew for his boys, keeps them out of the pool, and other places that could sap thier energy. They are gonna need all the energy that they can must muster vs the waves of players that John Carroll throws at you!!!

3 games for the Yac tomorrow.  Here's to hoping for a clean sweep! Especially in the Bronx!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
Paging Bengalsrule...Paging Bengalsrule....Paging Bengalsrule

Champ,
At some point this year someone is going to walk up to you with a message from me and you need to pay attention. You won't know when it will happen but it will occur when you least expect it, somewhere on a court, far far from home.

Hmmmm.  Don't know how to take that warning.  I bummed a ride with some friends to NYC so I can see my Bengals play and visit my brother Eric and sister Leecia (wifi reception is real bad heading through Scranton pa right now ). 

Glad to see the Yac went 2 for 2 today. Something tells me that those Golden Eagles might be enjoying the sun a bit too much!  Hopefully coach Dunn has an early curfew for his boys, keeps them out of the pool, and other places that could sap thier energy. They are gonna need all the energy that they can must muster vs the waves of players that John Carroll throws at you!!!

3 games for the Yac tomorrow.  Here's to hoping for a clean sweep! Especially in the Bronx!!

You mean you're not in Buffalo? Leaving early for that game I see.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2015, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 09:44:55 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
Paging Bengalsrule...Paging Bengalsrule....Paging Bengalsrule

Champ,
At some point this year someone is going to walk up to you with a message from me and you need to pay attention. You won't know when it will happen but it will occur when you least expect it, somewhere on a court, far far from home.

Hmmmm.  Don't know how to take that warning.  I bummed a ride with some friends to NYC so I can see my Bengals play and visit my brother Eric and sister Leecia (wifi reception is real bad heading through Scranton pa right now ). 

Glad to see the Yac went 2 for 2 today. Something tells me that those Golden Eagles might be enjoying the sun a bit too much!  Hopefully coach Dunn has an early curfew for his boys, keeps them out of the pool, and other places that could sap thier energy. They are gonna need all the energy that they can must muster vs the waves of players that John Carroll throws at you!!!

3 games for the Yac tomorrow.  Here's to hoping for a clean sweep! Especially in the Bronx!!

You mean you're not in Buffalo? Leaving early for that game I see.

Yep. Ice and snow are headed to buffalo ( hey that rhymes)!  So I figured get out of dodge while the getting is good. Plus I got a real good deal on this ride and hotel. Couldn't pass that up!😃
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 28, 2015, 10:10:32 PM
Good idea to get out. Some of my family in Niagara County said it has started to really sleet/freezing rain. Some accidents already Don't want to be on the roads when that happens.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 28, 2015, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
3 games for the Yac tomorrow.  Here's to hoping for a clean sweep! Especially in the Bronx!!

Hopefully Buffalo state and Western both win Tuesday, so we can play in the championship Wednesday  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2015, 10:56:34 PM
Quote from: 7express on December 28, 2015, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2015, 08:56:56 PM
3 games for the Yac tomorrow.  Here's to hoping for a clean sweep! Especially in the Bronx!!

Hopefully Buffalo state and Western both win Tuesday, so we can play in the championship Wednesday  ;D

That would be nice 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
Games on Tuesday December 29th   

John Carroll  vs  Brockport State        1:00 PM   Land of Magic Classic @ Daytona Beach, Fla.

Only 17 hours after winning a 100-95 triple overtime game against Bridgewater State, the Golden Eagles are being asked to match intensity with the 10th ranked team in the county, the John Carroll Blue Streaks. Talk about having the odds stacked against you. It was going to be tough enough beating a top ten team, but now you have to play a top ten team that has the advantage of watching you play the day before. Not only that, the Blue Streaks didn't have to play the day before so they're fresh as daisies, while the Golden Eagles not only had to play that extra game but they had to play 15 minutes of overtime on top of it so now it's basically an extra game and a half. Did you follow all of that? It seems to me there could be a fairer way of scheduling these games so that one team that is playing a 2nd straight game isn't  facing a team that has yet to suit up.

The oddsmakers had made John Carroll a 9 point favorite in this game before the Golden Eagles were forced to play a triple overtime game. Now I believe the line has moved to a double digit Blue Streaks advantage. They come into this game undefeated at 9-0 and bring a solid 10 man rotation that is basically rotated 5 at a time every 3 or 4 minutes. You need to be able to match them with a closeness in substitution patterns or risk being overrun by fresh bodies. On Tuesday the fresh bodies will definitely belong to the Blue Streaks.

Brockport didn't play well n Monday against a team that they should have blown the doors off. And why they allowed the Bears to not once, but twice, bury a three pointer to send the game into another extra session puzzles me. You need to foul in that situation and prevent them from getting off a 3 pointer. Brockport allowed a 3 pointer with 2 seconds on the clock to tie the game at the end of regulation. Then allowed another 3 pointer to tie the game at the end of the 2nd overtime, this time with only 1 second on the clock. They will pay for those mistakes today against John Carroll.

I'd love nothing better than to see the Golden Eagles take down the 10th ranked team in the country and I'll be rooting for that to happen as hard as I can. What I can't do though is pick them to win this game with the odds, now more than ever against them. This game is on the schedule for the National Pick 'Em League that I belong to and I initially planned on taking Brockport because I want to root for them. Now I have to take the other team, root for Brockport and sacrifice a game in my league if they do win. But I'll gladly do that if the golden Eagles can pull off the upset here. My head says they can't even though my heart wants them to. John Carroll wins this one by a score of 84-74 and it could get ugly if the legs of the Golden Eagles tire out like I think they will. Sure hope I'm wrong though.            




Buffalo State  vs  New Jersey City   4:00 PM   Coaches vs. Cancer Tournament @ Lehman College

The New Jersey Athletic Conference appears to have a number of contenders for the title this year and New Jersey City is one of the strongest. A cast of familiar characters round out the contenders with Richard Stockton, now simply known as Stockton, William Paterson, still known as William Paterson or Willie Pat, Rutgers-Newark, and the Ramapo Roadrunners all vying for that automatic bid the conference champion will get. Several teams have also added 2nd semester transfers, among them Ramapo, to help them gain some additional leverage. On Monday the Roadrunners handled a tough Skidmore team rather easily, by a 90-76 final score out in Vegas at the D3hoops.Com Classic. Rumor has it that New Jersey City may have added some 2nd semester help as well.

The Gothic Knights come into this game with a 7-2 record and are the only undefeated team left in the conference with a 5-0 record. They currently have a 1 game lead over Stockton. Their only two losses have been against a former Top 25 team, Brooklyn College, now ranked #26 and a team currently ranked #13, the Diplomats of Franklin and Marshall College. And it's the Diplomats I'm going to key on here. Earlier this year on F&M's home court, the Oneonta Red Dragons almost beat the Diplomats but a late F&M basket forced overtime and F&M escaped with a narrow victory. On a neutral court New jersey City suffered a double digit 79-67 loss to F&M. Now I don't know if the Bengals can beat Oneonta, but if I had to pick a winner in that game I would rate it as a pick em game on a neutral court. So if you think that the 2 SUNYAC rivals are fairly equal then logically you would have to think that Buffalo State might be a slight favorite over New Jersey City.

The oddsmakers have in fact made the Bengals a 1 point favorite so they are basically calling the game a tossup. What is strange is that they have have the Gothic Knights ranked as the 77th best team in Division III and the Bengals as the 104th best team in Division III. Since the game is on a neutral court (and if anything the neutral court, Lehman College in the Bronx, is much closer to New Jersey City than it is to Buffalo, so they could have more fans there than the Bengals) and there is no home court advantage, then I'm wondering why the Bengals are favored by a point instead of the Gothic Knights. I would think the handicapper would favor the team that he has ranked the stronger of the two.

Buffalo State is my choice to grab the W here but I hope the defensive effort is more in line with the Oswego game than several other games I've watched. This team with a 5-2 record could very well be and should be a perfect 7-0 going into this game. It's not the offensive part of the game that has cost them 2 wins. I'm taking the Bengals to win this one by an 83-77  final score.         


     
Gustavus Adolphus  vs  Oneonta State        5:00 PM   @ San Juan, Puerto Rico

The Gusties played Vassar College on Monday and lost a close one to the Brewers by a 52-51 final score. That makes me think that Oneonta should handle this team by a double digit margin, yet the oddsmakers have only made the Red Dragons a very slim 1 point favorite. Let's see here... Vassar lost to New Paltz by a 70-68 final score. New Paltz lost to Potsdam State 69-54. Potsdam lost to Oneonta 87-58. Can Oneonta beat Gustavus by 46 points? Probably not but I'm betting they win by more than 1. Oneonta wins this one by a final score of 78-65.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 29, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
Brockport down quick 10-2 2 minutes in. This could get very ugly. All the odds stacked against this Golden Eagles team coming into this game. Almost unfair, but that's the way the games go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 29, 2015, 01:28:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 29, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
Games on Tuesday December 29th   

John Carroll  vs  Brockport State        1:00 PM   Land of Magic Classic @ Daytona Beach, Fla.

Only 17 hours after winning a 100-95 triple overtime game against Bridgewater State, the Golden Eagles are being asked to match intensity with the 10th ranked team in the county, the John Carroll Blue Streaks. Talk about having the odds stacked against you. It was going to be tough enough beating a top ten team, but now you have to play a top ten team that has the advantage of watching you play the day before. Not only that, the Blue Streaks didn't have to play the day before so they're fresh as daisies, while the Golden Eagles not only had to play that extra game but they had to play 15 minutes of overtime on top of it so now it's basically an extra game and a half. Did you follow all of that? It seems to me there could be a fairer way of scheduling these games so that one team that is playing a 2nd straight game isn't  facing a team that has yet to suit up.

The oddsmakers had made John Carroll a 9 point favorite in this game before the Golden Eagles were forced to play a triple overtime game. Now I believe the line has moved to a double digit Blue Streaks advantage. They come into this game undefeated at 9-0 and bring a solid 10 man rotation that is basically rotated 5 at a time every 3 or 4 minutes. You need to be able to match them with a closeness in substitution patterns or risk being overrun by fresh bodies. On Tuesday the fresh bodies will definitely belong to the Blue Streaks.

Brockport didn't play well n Monday against a team that they should have blown the doors off. And why they allowed the Bears to not once, but twice, bury a three pointer to send the game into another extra session puzzles me. You need to foul in that situation and prevent them from getting off a 3 pointer. Brockport allowed a 3 pointer with 2 seconds on the clock to tie the game at the end of regulation. Then allowed another 3 pointer to tie the game at the end of the 2nd overtime, this time with only 1 second on the clock. They will pay for those mistakes today against John Carroll.

I'd love nothing better than to see the Golden Eagles take down the 10th ranked team in the country and I'll be rooting for that to happen as hard as I can. What I can't do though is pick them to win this game with the odds, now more than ever against them. This game is on the schedule for the National Pick 'Em League that I belong to and I initially planned on taking Brockport because I want to root for them. Now I have to take the other team, root for Brockport and sacrifice a game in my league if they do win. But I'll gladly do that if the golden Eagles can pull off the upset here. My head says they can't even though my heart wants them to. John Carroll wins this one by a score of 84-74 and it could get ugly if the legs of the Golden Eagles tire out like I think they will. Sure hope I'm wrong though.            




Buffalo State  vs  New Jersey City   4:00 PM   Coaches vs. Cancer Tournament @ Lehman College

The New Jersey Athletic Conference appears to have a number of contenders for the title this year and New Jersey City is one of the strongest. A cast of familiar characters round out the contenders with Richard Stockton, now simply known as Stockton, William Paterson, still known as William Paterson or Willie Pat, Rutgers-Newark, and the Ramapo Roadrunners all vying for that automatic bid the conference champion will get. Several teams have also added 2nd semester transfers, among them Ramapo, to help them gain some additional leverage. On Monday the Roadrunners handled a tough Skidmore team rather easily, by a 90-76 final score out in Vegas at the D3hoops.Com Classic. Rumor has it that New Jersey City may have added some 2nd semester help as well.

The Gothic Knights come into this game with a 7-2 record and are the only undefeated team left in the conference with a 5-0 record. They currently have a 1 game lead over Stockton. Their only two losses have been against a former Top 25 team, Brooklyn College, now ranked #26 and a team currently ranked #13, the Diplomats of Franklin and Marshall College. And it's the Diplomats I'm going to key on here. Earlier this year on F&M's home court, the Oneonta Red Dragons almost beat the Diplomats but a late F&M basket forced overtime and F&M escaped with a narrow victory. On a neutral court New jersey City suffered a double digit 79-67 loss to F&M. Now I don't know if the Bengals can beat Oneonta, but if I had to pick a winner in that game I would rate it as a pick em game on a neutral court. So if you think that the 2 SUNYAC rivals are fairly equal then logically you would have to think that Buffalo State might be a slight favorite over New Jersey City.

The oddsmakers have in fact made the Bengals a 1 point favorite so they are basically calling the game a tossup. What is strange is that they have have the Gothic Knights ranked as the 77th best team in Division III and the Bengals as the 104th best team in Division III. Since the game is on a neutral court (and if anything the neutral court, Lehman College in the Bronx, is much closer to New Jersey City than it is to Buffalo, so they could have more fans there than the Bengals) and there is no home court advantage, then I'm wondering why the Bengals are favored by a point instead of the Gothic Knights. I would think the handicapper would favor the team that he has ranked the stronger of the two.

Buffalo State is my choice to grab the W here but I hope the defensive effort is more in line with the Oswego game than several other games I've watched. This team with a 5-2 record could very well be and should be a perfect 7-0 going into this game. It's not the offensive part of the game that has cost them 2 wins. I'm taking the Bengals to win this one by an 83-77  final score.         


     
Gustavus Adolphus  vs  Oneonta State        5:00 PM   @ San Juan, Puerto Rico

The Gusties played Vassar College on Monday and lost a close one to the Brewers by a 52-51 final score. That makes me think that Oneonta should handle this team by a double digit margin, yet the oddsmakers have only made the Red Dragons a very slim 1 point favorite. Let's see here... Vassar lost to New Paltz by a 70-68 final score. New Paltz lost to Potsdam State 69-54. Potsdam lost to Oneonta 87-58. Can Oneonta beat Gustavus by 46 points? Probably not but I'm betting they win by more than 1. Oneonta wins this one by a final score of 78-65.     

O wise and Magic 1, have I ever told you how much I admire your predictions?!?!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 29, 2015, 01:38:06 PM
Brockport down 54-33 at the half. Again, because there's no video here in 2015, I can't see it. But, it seems as though they probably barely have any energy left to defend a team like JCU.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 29, 2015, 02:45:03 PM
Brockport gets romped 115-94 or 117-92 whichever of the livestats score is right. No matter, not a good game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Buffalo State out to an early double digit lead over New jersey City 25-10 after 8 minutes have gone by in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
Buffalo State up at the half but once again the score is a question mark. The scoreboard shows the score to be the Bengals 55 New jersey City 45.

The live stats however has the Bengals out in front by a 55-42 score. The announcers just gave a rundown of the points that everyone on both teams has scored and when you add then up you get a 55-42 score. Maybe at halftime they may find the scoreboard is off by those 3 points. I hope so. Rather have a 13 point lead than a 10 point one.

Bengals were led by 12 points and 4 rebounds from Lovell Smith. Nico McLean has 9 points and 4 steals, while Leon Moise has 6 points and 1 wicked rebound that resulted in a nice slamma jamma on the putback.

Gothic Knights getting big games from Yuri Brutus with 11 points and Chinwe Wosu with 10 points.

They just found the scoring errors and the corrections resulted in 2 more points for Brutus so he has 13 and 1 other player's totals went from 4 to 5 points.

So the score is 55-45. Need the Bengals to stay focused this half and not give this advantage back. I've seen that happen too many times with a Bengals team. Need to play smart and keep passing the ball for the best shot to the open man, and not throw up prayers from downtown just because they have a decent lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
Buffalo State letting this team hang around and now it's 90-88, Bengal up, with 1:21 left to play and Lovell Smith at the line after a New jersey time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 06:23:00 PM
Lovell Smith makes 2 free throws to give the Bengals a 2 possession lead. Buff State gets a turnover on the next new jersey trip down the floor and Jordan Glover is fouled.  He makes 1 of 2 to make it 93-88 and New Jersey comes down and makes a 3 pointer with 36 seconds left. Bengals Nico McLean is fouled and makes 1 of 2 to make it a 3 point lead. Bengals take a time out. Hope they foul and don't allow a three point attempt like Brockport did yesterday.

New Jersey inbounds the ball and brings it down and works it around. Bengals not fouling New jersey almost turns it over but retains possession and buries a 3 pointer with 4.5 seconds left to tie the game. I can't believe I'm seeing a deja vu of the Brockport game. You gotta foul here and take the three point play off the board. Bengals inbound the ball after a New Jersey time out but fail to get a shot off as the 3 point attempt is blocked.

OVERTIME upcoming.  This sucks. Bengals losing their bigs won't help.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 06:47:57 PM
Simply amazing game here as the Bengals trail the entire overtime period by as many as 9 points at 107-98 with 1:50 left to play. Bengals fought back and got it down to 3 with 11 seconds to go and once again the team that was ahead did not foul and allowed the Bengals to get off a 3 pont shot that was good and tied the game at 110 with 5 seconds left. Gothic Knights went coast to coast to try and win it but the shot was off and no foul was called sending this one into double overtime.  Bengals at a disadvantage though because they have lost 3 players including 2 of their bigs to foul disqualifications.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 29, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Bengalsrule picked a good game to go to, it sounds like! Must be on the edge of his seat  ;D. Sounds like Brockport 2.0 all over again. Hope they get the same result.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 07:04:27 PM
Buffalo State up 3 with 3 seconds to go. Do you think they will foul after getting burned at the end of regulation by not fouling. I hope they learned their lesson. We'll see.

No foul but they don't score and the Bengals win this one by a 119-116 final in double OT.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 29, 2015, 07:06:58 PM
Glad to see
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 29, 2015, 07:12:12 PM
Glad to see Buffalo State come back and win this one.
Championship game tomorrow against Lehman at 6pm.

Bad Loss by the Oneonta Red Dragons 55-48 to Gustavus Adolphus.
Heard they were down 33-15 at halftime.

John Carroll must be as good as advertised as they beat up on Brockport.
Brockport was never really in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 29, 2015, 07:13:33 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 29, 2015, 07:12:12 PM
Glad to see Buffalo State come back and win this one.
Championship game tomorrow against Lehman at 6pm.

Bad Loss by the Oneonta Red Dragons 55-48 to Gustavus Adolphus.
Heard they were down 33-15 at halftime.

John Carroll must be as good as advertised as they beat up on Brockport.
Brockport was never really in the game.

JCU looks very good indeed! However, Hard to win a game against #10 when you play a 3OT game 16 hours prior and the #10 didn't play the day before. I think the fatigue showed from beginning to end.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 07:36:59 PM
I'm exhausted after watching Buffalo State defeat New Jersey City 119-116 in double overtime.

Good job by the Bengals to come back from a 9 point deficit in the first overtime with only 1:50 left to play. At that point I had resigned myself to the fact that this game was over. I was extremely disappointed that the Bengals did exactly what I asked them not to do and allowed the Gothic Knights to overcome a double digit deficit for almost the entire 2nd half and find a way to tie the game up in regulation. It was especially frustrating to see them not foul on the final New Jersey City possession of regulation which would have prevented the Gothic Knights from making the game tying 3 pointer. Were they not aware of what happened to Brockport State last night when they did the same thing on 2 occasions and allowed Bridgewater State to stretch that game out into 3 overtime periods. Fortunately New Jersey City did the same thing at the end of the first overtime and by not fouling the Bengals allowed them to tie it up and send it to a 2nd extra session.  Now, like Brockport, the Bengals may not have legs nearly as fresh as they might have been with out an extra 10 minutes of court time. The good thing is Lehman/Western Connecticut have to play the later game and won't get as much recovery time as the Bengals will.  But the Bengals will need every minute of rest from having to go all out for 50 minutes today.

Bad job by the Bengals for even allowing themselves to be remotely close to overtime in this game. They should have won this game by 20 points. Seriously 20 points...or more. Two many guys making too many bad decisions once they had a 14 point lead.

I had the Bengals winning this game by an 83-77 final score. I was off the mark and they should have won by an 85-65 final score.

At this point of my day I'm just glad they won. I will have some words with a Buffalo State coach I know about this game in the near future. I think I'm lucky to be alive, I was so worked up watching this one. I know my Cardinals haven't put me through the wringer, this year, like the Bengals did today. ::) :P :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 29, 2015, 07:12:12 PM
Bad Loss by the Oneonta Red Dragons 55-48 to Gustavus Adolphus.
Heard they were down 33-15 at halftime.

I can't understand this score.

Possible reasons...
A. Somebody drugged the Red Dragons lunch. 
B. They partied with some Island Girls until the wee hours.
C. They all got Montezuma's Revenge and they were up all night hitting the john.

I'm hoping it was B but it could have been none of the above and they were just shooting so badly they couldn't have hit the Atlantic Ocean. 15 points at halftime may be the worst score we'll see all year for a SUNYAC team at the half.

Just a mystifying outcome. :P :( Especially after such a good win yesterday. I'm  :o   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 29, 2015, 08:21:08 PM
Was that a F--ki-g game or WHAT!??? Omg, I'm soaking wet from the excitement.  Head still ringing...can't eat but happy as all be damn.  Proud of my beloved BENGALS who could have quit after giving up one helluva lead in the 2nd half! Spirits were down but o/t comebacks like this 1 don't happen often.  I wouldn't believe any of the stats folks. I know for a fact ( because a Bengal coach told me) that the halftime stat sheet that they passed out had bengals up 43-42.  Had JO Mair with a rebound ( he didn't step on the court) and Luke Jenkins with 2 points ( Luke didn't dress for the game).  The official scorekeeper at Lehman has the worse attitude of any staff at any gym that any of the Buff State coaches have ever seen.  At one point she threw a "f" bomb at the coaches in overtime after she refused to give coach Glover the amount of timeouts buff state had left. Just plain refused to say anything when asked how many timeouts the bengals had remaining. Unbelievable!

After all was said and done, it still was one heck of a win. It should have never been that hard.....but it was.  I think I'm gonna stick around for tomorrow's game!

Go BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 29, 2015, 08:21:19 PM
Magicman,
I'm sure it was B, especially after the great win they had yesterday.
Just when you think they are on their way, a game like today is a reality check.
You have to bring it every game.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Lehman defeats Western Connecticut by a final score of 80-74.

Buffalo State will meet the Lehman Lightning in the Championship game of the Coaches for Cancer Tournament at 6 PM tomorrow evening. Go Bengals 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 29, 2015, 10:04:46 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 29, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Lehman defeats Western Connecticut by a final score of 80-74.

Buffalo State will meet the Lehman Lightning in the Championship game of the Coaches for Cancer Tournament at 6 PM tomorrow evening. Go Bengals

Indeed!! :) :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 29, 2015, 10:11:56 PM
Bengalsrule's emotions during the game...

:) :) :) :D ;D :) ??? ??? >:( ::) :-\ :-X :o :o :) ;) >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 29, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 29, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Lehman defeats Western Connecticut by a final score of 80-74.

Buffalo State will meet the Lehman Lightning in the Championship game of the Coaches for Cancer Tournament at 6 PM tomorrow evening. Go Bengals

Too bad we couldn't hold up our end of the bargain Magic & Bengals!  Now for our reward we are gonna get drilled by NJCU  :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2015, 11:46:46 PM
Quote from: 7express on December 29, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 29, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Lehman defeats Western Connecticut by a final score of 80-74.

Buffalo State will meet the Lehman Lightning in the Championship game of the Coaches for Cancer Tournament at 6 PM tomorrow evening. Go Bengals

Too bad we couldn't hold up our end of the bargain Magic & Bengals!  Now for our reward we are gonna get drilled by NJCU  :(

7express,

You know, of course, from the 2 pick em leagues that we're in, that I chose Lehman to beat Western Connecticut in both of them. I would  have liked a Western-Buff State  finals game but  just didn't see it happening. When Western lost that game to Pine Manor they dropped a few notches in my book.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 30, 2015, 12:17:42 AM
I tuned into the d3hoops.com tournament and their broadcast/video/production has been very good. Augustana got challenged and now Whitworth is having a tussle.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 30, 2015, 12:31:32 AM
Should send Gordon, Pat or Dave down to Puerto Rico to actually have quality video for those games, because BOTH the D3 hoops classic and the Hoopsville tournament are excellent video quality.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 07:05:48 AM
The game between Buffalo State and New Jersey City on Tuesday afternoon, that resulted in a double overtime win for the Bengals, set an NCAA record for total free throws in an NCAA Division III game. The whistle happy zebras called a total of 73 fouls in the contest that resulted in a record 112 free throws being taken and resulted in 8 players, 4 from each team taking an early seat. The refs managed to foul out 3 of the Bengals starting 5 players as well as their 1st big man off the bench. For the Gothic Knights they lost 1 starter and 3 of their top 4 reserves. The fact that 3 of their reserves fouled out indicates just how many fouls were called. I can't remember the last time I watched a game where 3 bench players from one team fouled out.

In Monday's triple overtime game between Brockport and John Carroll there were 56 fouls called resulting in 78 free throws. Both the number of fouls and the number of free throws were considerably less than what occurred in the Buff State game, with one less overtime period.

Some officials just can't let the players play ball but have to interject themselves into the game far more than they should. There were an awful lot of cheap fouls called against both teams yesterday that were instances where the refs should have kept their whistles in hand instead of their mouth. I realize that because you have 3 separate game endings, because of the overtimes, that you will get a minor foul parade by the team trying to mount a come back on 3 occasions instead of one but there were plenty of fouls called before the teams were intentionally fouling that were simply officials trying to insert themselves into the game far too much. I hope today's game between Lehman and the Bengals has more of a flow to it than what took place yesterday.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 11:38:40 AM
Quote from: pg04 on December 29, 2015, 10:11:56 PM
Bengalsrule's emotions during the game...

:) :) :) :D ;D :) ??? ??? >:( ::) :-\ :-X :o :o :) ;) >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

One day I gotta have a drink with pg04 and 7express.  I just gotta  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 30, 2015, 12:04:56 PM
Love Buffalo State over Lehman today.
Wouldn't want Benglesrule to make that long trip and not win the Championship game after almost having a heart attack watching yesterdays game.
He needs a convincing win tonight.
Enjoy the game.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 07:05:48 AM
The game between Buffalo State and New Jersey City on Tuesday afternoon, that resulted in a double overtime win for the Bengals, set an NCAA record for total free throws in an NCAA Division III game. The whistle happy zebras called a total of 73 fouls in the contest that resulted in a record 112 free throws being taken and resulted in 8 players, 4 from each team taking an early seat. The refs managed to foul out 3 of the Bengals starting 5 players as well as their 1st big man off the bench. For the Gothic Knights they lost 1 starter and 3 of their top 4 reserves. The fact that 3 of their reserves fouled out indicates just how many fouls were called. I can't remember the last time I watched a game where 3 bench players from one team fouled out.

In Monday's triple overtime game between Brockport and John Carroll there were 56 fouls called resulting in 78 free throws. Both the number of fouls and the number of free throws were considerably less than what occurred in the Buff State game, with one less overtime period.

Some officials just can't let the players play ball but have to interject themselves into the game far more than they should. There were an awful lot of cheap fouls called against both teams yesterday that were instances where the refs should have kept their whistles in hand instead of their mouth. I realize that because you have 3 separate game endings, because of the overtimes, that you will get a minor foul parade by the team trying to mount a come back on 3 occasions instead of one but there were plenty of fouls called before the teams were intentionally fouling that were simply officials trying to insert themselves into the game far too much. I hope today's game between Lehman and the Bengals has more of a flow to it than what took place yesterday.     

2 things to add ( damn magic you beat me to the Ncaa record) to what magic has already stated!

A- Yesterday's refs were mixed bag. 1 ref early in the game told Bengal coaches, that complained about a push in the back vs Mike Henry, that "if we called every foul we'd have over 100 foul shots!"  I can't make this up folks. From coaches who I know and trust.  Magic knows them too! ;D

B- "Karma can be a bit-h!!! ". Right at the end of the 1st half I,and anyone in the gym, witnessed a VERY heated exchange between NJCU head coach Brown and the referees ( the black referee in particular).  "Heated" puts it mildly. The ref threaten Brown with a tech. Brown shouts out "i work for a living". Ref responds with a similar comment. Brown then says something about "writing " the ref up, and some other threatening stuff! The back and forth continued for what seemed like almost a min, but clearly both Brown and the aforementioned ref, weren't gonna send Xmas cards to each other next year. "Karma" you say?????? 
   Karma = After Mike Henry hit the game tying 3 in the first OT,  NJCU quickly takes the ball out and a NJCU player was heading to the basket with the ball, for an uncontested layup for the game winner
when, out of nowhere, Mike Henry fouled, oops  :o "blocked", the NJCU players shot. The aforementioned ref was in position to make the call and he called nothing ( put emoticon for "whew" here).  A casual unassociated fan would have bet thier life that a foul would have been called there with less than a second in OT.  However "karma is a b----" and I believe that a certain ref called that play EXACTLY right.   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 01:03:44 PM
Sad News for one of our Sunyac teams. Recently 3 players from the New Paltz team were in a bad car accident on the way to practice. 2 are out of the hospital but the 3rd is critical. Prayers up for all of the New Paltz team and families as they deal with this. Thier game vs Kean is canceled for Saturday. Take a moment fellas and reach out to whatever GOD you pray to for the New Paltz player, and teams, full recovery!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 30, 2015, 01:17:56 PM
Well just  got back from the Land of Magic Tourney in Daytona Beach and watched my beloved Eagles for two days!!! Great time and great games. Bport had a thriller with Bridgewater State the first day winning 100-95 in triple OT! Bport missed the front end of two 1 and 1's and went 1 for 6 in final two minutes to set up these heroics. The Eagles were up 74-71 with 2 seconds left in regulation and Bridgewater kid tossed in a 25 footer with man in his face to force the 1st OT. The same guy did it again at the end of 1st from around 25 ft with man in face again. The Eagles finally knocked down some free throws to build a little cushion and win.

Less than 24 hours later they had their biggest test of the season. John Carroll is the real deal. Good guards(3 very good and 3 solid guards) and 6 bigs between 6'6 and 6'8 that can play. There top 4 bigs are long and aggressive. I was totally impressed with this squad. They push it up the floor and 10 players deep. I have seen final four teams in the past, and they are potentially a Final Four team. I know alot of other intangibles play into reaching that level, but they have a shot.

My beloved Eagles are a nice squad but JC at a different level. Keep an eye on them. I enjoyed being around the guys again and wish them the best in the SUNYAC--Make Some Noise--take care to the SUNY's
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 30, 2015, 01:49:39 PM
scooterman.....where in Daytona was the games played?   The Amherst WBB team went to the same Tourny.  The Nescac website listed the games in Orlando, but the Amherst website listed Daytona.
Was down in the area last winter.  Unfortunately, there were NO videos of any games...only stats..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 30, 2015, 02:13:57 PM
Quote from: scooterman on December 30, 2015, 01:17:56 PM
Well just  got back from the Land of Magic Tourney in Daytona Beach and watched my beloved Eagles for two days!!! Great time and great games. Bport had a thriller with Bridgewater State the first day winning 100-95 in triple OT! Bport missed the front end of two 1 and 1's and went 1 for 6 in final two minutes to set up these heroics. The Eagles were up 74-71 with 2 seconds left in regulation and Bridgewater kid tossed in a 25 footer with man in his face to force the 1st OT. The same guy did it again at the end of 1st from around 25 ft with man in face again. The Eagles finally knocked down some free throws to build a little cushion and win.

Less than 24 hours later they had their biggest test of the season. John Carroll is the real deal. Good guards(3 very good and 3 solid guards) and 6 bigs between 6'6 and 6'8 that can play. There top 4 bigs are long and aggressive. I was totally impressed with this squad. They push it up the floor and 10 players deep. I have seen final four teams in the past, and they are potentially a Final Four team. I know alot of other intangibles play into reaching that level, but they have a shot.

My beloved Eagles are a nice squad but JC at a different level. Keep an eye on them. I enjoyed being around the guys again and wish them the best in the SUNYAC--Make Some Noise--take care to the SUNY's

Yeah I would have been VERY Impressed if they could have pulled the game off against JCU coming off a tiring game just the night before, when JCU didn't have to play.

Quote from: amh63 on December 30, 2015, 01:49:39 PM
scooterman.....where in Daytona was the games played?   The Amherst WBB team went to the same Tourny.  The Nescac website listed the games in Orlando, but the Amherst website listed Daytona.
Was down in the area last winter.  Unfortunately, there were NO videos of any games...only stats..

I think the game was at Embry-Riddle Aeronautic University. No video as you said, which made following the games a headache.

I recall part of that school was damaged by a tornado in 2006, which happened to be a year I was in Daytona staying with my Aunt and Uncle! That's always my biggest memory of Daytona now...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 04:24:55 PM
Sorry to say I will miss the video of tonight's contest between Buffalo State and Lehman. A former All Conference SUNYAC player from Potsdam State by the name of Ted Bence, is paying a visit to the Plattsburgh area tonight and I will be meeting him at 5:30. Going to one of the local gin mills to greet him and a bunch of other friends as we attempt to win the weekly Trivia contest. The magicman's reputation at Trivia has resulted in him being drafted onto a friend's team. One day I hope to make an appearance on Jeopardy but for now I have to be content to beat the local barflies. I am not a drinker (my favorite beverage is Cherry Coke) so I don't frequent many of the local hangouts or pubs unless something special is going on. I actually don't play bar trivia that much because, in all fairness, I don't want to win all the prizes. ;D

So good luck to the Bengals tonight, take the thunder away from the Lehman Lightning. I hope when I return home tonight that I can pull up a box score along with this board and that a big smile will slowly cross my face....for more reasons than just the game. Certain posters that post here will know what that means by now...I hope. :D

Prediction on tonight's game to follow very shortly.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 01:03:44 PM
Sad News for one of our Sunyac teams. Recently 3 players from the New Paltz team were in a bad car accident on the way to practice. 2 are out of the hospital but the 3rd is critical. Prayers up for all of the New Paltz team and families as they deal with this. Thier game vs Kean is canceled for Saturday. Take a moment fellas and reach out to whatever GOD you pray to for the New Paltz player, and teams, full recovery!

Bengalsrule,
Sorry to hear about this accident. If you get a chance PM me with more details and perhaps who was involved. My prayers will certainly go out to these young men, their families and the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 05:03:15 PM
Wednesday December 30th

Just one game on tap for the SUNYAC today but it's a doozy and would be the featured game of the day if all 10 teams were in action.

Buffalo State  at Lehman        6:00 PM   Championship game of the Coaches vs Cancer Tournament

There should be plenty of excitement in The Apex on the Lehman Campus this evening when the Bengals hook up with the Lightning of Lehman College. Both of these teams were involved in close games yesterday and this one could be another barnburner.

Lehman now sports a 9-2 record that includes six teams with winning records. The Bengals with a 6-2 record have played teams with winning records in all but two instances and knocked off 2 unbeaten teams, Hobart and Oswego State along the way. The Bengals are just 3 points away from an undefeated season, themselves, having lost by a single point to Cortland and by 2 points to NAIA power, Point Park.

The oddsmakers have ranked Lehman at #96 in the country and Buffalo State is right behind them at #102.
They have made the Lightning a slim 2 point favorite in this game but I believe the Bengals have played a stronger schedule and will come through here, with another tournament championship to put in their trophy case. Buff State Assistant Coach, Kevin Glover, was right about that 10 game holiday tournament win streak the Bengals brought into this tournament. It now stands at 11 games and the Bengals are  looking for #12 today. It should be another fast paced, action packed game and I'm taking Buffalo State to win this one by an 89-83 final score. Go Bengals!     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 30, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 01:03:44 PM
Sad News for one of our Sunyac teams. Recently 3 players from the New Paltz team were in a bad car accident on the way to practice. 2 are out of the hospital but the 3rd is critical. Prayers up for all of the New Paltz team and families as they deal with this. Thier game vs Kean is canceled for Saturday. Take a moment fellas and reach out to whatever GOD you pray to for the New Paltz player, and teams, full recovery!

I missed this somehow. I had seen a public post by the coach of New Paltz on Facebook but he didn't mention specifics (obviously)

That's very sad and my thoughts are with the team, the injured player, and his family!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 04:24:55 PM
Sorry to say I will miss the video of tonight's contest between Buffalo State and Lehman. A former All Conference SUNYAC player from Potsdam State by the name of Ted Bence, is paying a visit to the Plattsburgh area tonight and I will be meeting him at 5:30. Going to one of the local gin mills to greet him and a bunch of other friends as we attempt to win the weekly Trivia contest. The magicman's reputation at Trivia has resulted in him being drafted onto a friend's team. One day I hope to make an appearance on Jeopardy but for now I have to be content to beat the local barflies. I am not a drinker (my favorite beverage is Cherry Coke) so I don't frequent many of the local hangouts or pubs unless something special is going on. I actually don't play bar trivia that much because, in all fairness, I don't want to win all the prizes. ;D

So good luck to the Bengals tonight, take the thunder away from the Lehman Lightning. I hope when I return home tonight that I can pull up a box score along with this board and that a big smile will slowly cross my face....for more reasons than just the game. Certain posters that post here will know what that means by now...I hope. :D

Prediction on tonight's game to follow very shortly.   

Will do ( info on the new Paltz particulars)

On a lighter note the attached is the write up that the NJCU website has up on yesterdays game!  If you, or anyone else on these boards, have ever seen a better one, I'll buy the next 2 subs!

"Epic Battle"

http://www.njcugothicknights.com/news/2015/12/29/201512-29_MBASKETBALL_vs_Buffalo_State.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 30, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
P.S. Cherry coke is one of my favorite drinks of choice as well. I don't really drink much either, but will on occasion. Otherwise cherry coke is a great one. I like root beer too.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 06:56:38 PM
Meeting with my buddies at the bar didn't happen as Potsdam State buddy had to cancel. I was there with bells on but not my buddies. Forgot to check facebook page where the messages showed up with a change of plans. Just as well now I can catch the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 06:57:24 PM
Buffalo State leads Lehman 38-36 at the half.

Jordan Glover hits his 3rd 3 pointer of the half with 24 seconds left to enable the Bengals to head inti the locker room with a 2 point lead.

Closey contested 1st period that had the Bengals in front when they scored to make it 7-6 5 minutes inti the game until they lost the lead at 28-27 with 5 minutes to go.

There were 5 ties and 7 lead changes and neither team had more than a 4 point lead.

Jordan Glover leads the Bengals with 13 points and Kevin Marmolejos is next with 8 points. Those two have combined to go 5 for 7 from long distance. Lehman is only 1 for 9 from behind the arc. Gotta hope those percentages stay the same and don't even out in the next period.

Lehman was led by Chaun Miller with 10 points and 3 assists. Olando Minot has 8 points for the Lightning.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 07:30:09 PM
Bengals opening up a little daylight against Lehman as they now lead by a 56-46 double digit lead with 12:20 left to play in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
Buffalo State continues to lead by 10 points at 70-60 with 3:36 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 07:58:10 PM
Crunch time 74-69 Buff Stae leads 42 seconds to go Lehman just got a turnover and took a time out. Hang on Bengals and foul if you have  a 3 point lead and only seconds left to play...please. ???  And no fouls earlier than that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 08:05:25 PM
 Wow Lehman down by 3 with 34 seconds to go and a Lehman player is called for a technical foul. Bengals hit both free throws and then score a home run on the ensuing inbounds play with a long pass down court for a layup and one.  Bengals up 78-71 after missing the free throw. Lehman scores on their possession and fouls. Bengals make 1 of 2 to boost the lead to 79-73 Lehman misses a 3 pointer and Lehman fouls again. Nico McLean makes them both to make it 81-73. This game is in the bag now. 

Final score is 82-73 Good job Bengals.

Bengals Mike Henry named MVP and Kevin Marmolejos named to the All Tournament team. Way to go guys.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 08:42:06 PM
News article in USA Today that Knicks player Cleanthony Early was shot early Wednesday.

Then it stated that a group of people wearing ski masks surrounded his uber cab and they robbed him of jewelry and other items including a gold necklace and gold caps on his teeth.

Damn they be tough in Queens when they take your teeth right out of your mouth now.  ??? And then they shoot you in the knee just to be mean I guess. :P :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 30, 2015, 08:51:54 PM
Pg04-Sorry I didn't get right back to you but went out after making my post. The tourney used to be held at Embry-Riddle, but since they are now a D2 program it has been moved to the Ocean City Convention Center downtown. This was first year being held there and Brian Streeter is learning the ropes with dealing with the city rather than the college. It is a nice place and convenient. I enjoyed the games even if we couldn't get by JC. Let's have a great SUNYAC season--good luck to all!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
I love NY...( tune playing along with words).  Another game ... another win....another day that I'm proud to be a Bengals fan! :D. Must admit, while watching eastern conn crush NJCU by 30 something, I'm thinking that maybe our legs are gone too! After all the nearly 3 hr game Tuesday night took one helluva toll on my beloved BENGALS!  But I was wrong. They answered every call and allowed the few Bengal faithful ( including my brother, 2 nephews and favorite niece) to have a reason to shout in an arena where they were outnumbered 6-1!!

I'll let Magicman do the stats and other stuff that only he can do. I'm just glad that we won, glad that I met All-time, ecstatic that my brother and his family drove an hour and a half from Brooklyn and happy that it's not snowing on the road home.

Pray for New Paltz

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
I love NY...( tune playing along with words).  Another game ... another win....another day that I'm proud to be a Bengals fan! :D. Must admit, while watching eastern conn crush NJCU by 30 something, I'm thinking that maybe our legs are gone too! After all the nearly 3 hr game Tuesday night took one helluva toll on my beloved BENGALS!  But I was wrong. They answered every call and allowed the few Bengal faithful ( including my brother, 2 nephews and favorite niece) to have a reason to shout in an arena where they were outnumbered 6-1!!

I'll let Magicman do the stats and other stuff that only he can do. I'm just glad that we won, glad that I met All-time, ecstatic that my brother and his family drove an hour and a half from Brooklyn and happy that it's not snowing on the road home.

Pray for New Paltz

Go BENGALS!!

Is there nothing else to report about your evening?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 30, 2015, 09:57:11 PM
Quote from: scooterman on December 30, 2015, 08:51:54 PM
Pg04-Sorry I didn't get right back to you but went out after making my post. The tourney used to be held at Embry-Riddle, but since they are now a D2 program it has been moved to the Ocean City Convention Center downtown. This was first year being held there and Brian Streeter is learning the ropes with dealing with the city rather than the college. It is a nice place and convenient. I enjoyed the games even if we couldn't get by JC. Let's have a great SUNYAC season--good luck to all!!!

Interesting. Yes I think that's probably a better place to hold it anyhow. Hopefully there will be video the next time. Or go to Vegas and do the d3hoops.com tourney  ;D. That may be a monetary stretch though. Onward now to the conference schedule!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: 7express on December 30, 2015, 11:06:30 PM
Bengals & Magic got a funny story that happened today about bad refs that I think you 2 would like:

In the JV game today, one of our players gets called for an offense foul.  He turns to the ref and says "that's a bad call."  Ref gives him a technical foul.  Coach asks the ref what he said and the ref told him that the player told him it was a bull$#!t call, but if he said it was a bad call he wouldn't have done anything.  So the kid sits for the rest of the quarter, goes into start the 4th quarter and according to him the ref asks him "I want to make sure you really said it was a bull$#!t call."  SMFH  ??? :o  ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
I love NY...( tune playing along with words).  Another game ... another win....another day that I'm proud to be a Bengals fan! :D. Must admit, while watching eastern conn crush NJCU by 30 something, I'm thinking that maybe our legs are gone too! After all the nearly 3 hr game Tuesday night took one helluva toll on my beloved BENGALS!  But I was wrong. They answered every call and allowed the few Bengal faithful ( including my brother, 2 nephews and favorite niece) to have a reason to shout in an arena where they were outnumbered 6-1!!

I'll let Magicman do the stats and other stuff that only he can do. I'm just glad that we won, glad that I MET ALL-TIME, ecstatic that my brother and his family drove an hour and a half from Brooklyn and happy that it's not snowing on the road home.

Pray for New Paltz

Go BENGALS!!

Is there nothing else to report about your evening?

Not sure what else I missed!  I'm beat and enjoying the ride home. More to come later. Hope you spread the word to some of your "voting" friends. Lehman beat #17 Brooklyn in their last game! NJCU was trumpeted on dec 16 as one of the hottest teams in the country. Lehman was in a 8 game win streak an NJCU was on a 7 game win streak. Both teams are undefeated in thier conference and the early favorite to win thier conference Chip. Add a win over Oswego who was on a 4/5/6 ? game win streak and things are shaping up. If the voters don't see us worthy of a vote or 2 next week then it is what it is ! 

I think I'm gonna go back to sleep now. Lord knows I don't want to be tired if asked to drive  :o ( stop laughing).

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 11:14:14 PM
Quote from: 7express on December 30, 2015, 11:06:30 PM
Bengals & Magic got a funny story that happened today about bad refs that I think you 2 would like:

In the JV game today, one of our players gets called for an offense foul.  He turns to the ref and says "that's a bad call."  Ref gives him a technical foul.  Coach asks the ref what he said and the ref told him that the player told him it was a bull$#!t call, but if he said it was a bad call he wouldn't have done anything.  So the kid sits for the rest of the quarter, goes into start the 4th quarter and according to him the ref asks him "I want to make sure you really said it was a bull$#!t call."  SMFH  ??? :o  ::)

That's special !!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
I love NY...( tune playing along with words).  Another game ... another win....another day that I'm proud to be a Bengals fan! :D. Must admit, while watching eastern conn crush NJCU by 30 something, I'm thinking that maybe our legs are gone too! After all the nearly 3 hr game Tuesday night took one helluva toll on my beloved BENGALS!  But I was wrong. They answered every call and allowed the few Bengal faithful ( including my brother, 2 nephews and favorite niece) to have a reason to shout in an arena where they were outnumbered 6-1!!

I'll let Magicman do the stats and other stuff that only he can do. I'm just glad that we won, glad that I MET ALL-TIME, ecstatic that my brother and his family drove an hour and a half from Brooklyn and happy that it's not snowing on the road home.

Pray for New Paltz

Go BENGALS!!

Is there nothing else to report about your evening?

Not sure what else I missed!  I'm beat and enjoying the ride home. More to come later. Hope you spread the word to some of your "voting" friends. Lehman beat #17 Brooklyn in their last game! NJCU was trumpeted on dec 16 as one of the hottest teams in the country. Lehman was in a 8 game win streak an NJCU was on a 7 game win streak. Both teams are undefeated in thier conference and the early favorite to win thier conference Chip. Add a win over Oswego who was on a 4/5/6 ? game win streak and things are shaping up. If the voters don't see us worthy of a vote or 2 next week then it is what it is ! 

I think I'm gonna go back to sleep now. Lord knows I don't want to be tired if asked to drive  :o ( stop laughing).

Thought you might have gotten a message!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: 7express on December 30, 2015, 11:06:30 PM
Bengals & Magic got a funny story that happened today about bad refs that I think you 2 would like:

In the JV game today, one of our players gets called for an offense foul.  He turns to the ref and says "that's a bad call."  Ref gives him a technical foul.  Coach asks the ref what he said and the ref told him that the player told him it was a bull$#!t call, but if he said it was a bad call he wouldn't have done anything.  So the kid sits for the rest of the quarter, goes into start the 4th quarter and according to him the ref asks him "I want to make sure you really said it was a bull$#!t call."  SMFH  ??? :o  ::)

That's a nasty ref. :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 01:43:43 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 09:41:16 PM
I love NY...( tune playing along with words).  Another game ... another win....another day that I'm proud to be a Bengals fan! :D. Must admit, while watching eastern conn crush NJCU by 30 something, I'm thinking that maybe our legs are gone too! After all the nearly 3 hr game Tuesday night took one helluva toll on my beloved BENGALS!  But I was wrong. They answered every call and allowed the few Bengal faithful ( including my brother, 2 nephews and favorite niece) to have a reason to shout in an arena where they were outnumbered 6-1!!

I'll let Magicman do the stats and other stuff that only he can do. I'm just glad that we won, glad that I MET ALL-TIME, ecstatic that my brother and his family drove an hour and a half from Brooklyn and happy that it's not snowing on the road home.

Pray for New Paltz

Go BENGALS!!

Is there nothing else to report about your evening?

Not sure what else I missed!  I'm beat and enjoying the ride home. More to come later. Hope you spread the word to some of your "voting" friends. Lehman beat #17 Brooklyn in their last game! NJCU was trumpeted on dec 16 as one of the hottest teams in the country. Lehman was in a 8 game win streak an NJCU was on a 7 game win streak. Both teams are undefeated in thier conference and the early favorite to win thier conference Chip. Add a win over Oswego who was on a 4/5/6 ? game win streak and things are shaping up. If the voters don't see us worthy of a vote or 2 next week then it is what it is ! 

I think I'm gonna go back to sleep now. Lord knows I don't want to be tired if asked to drive  :o ( stop laughing).

Thought you might have gotten a message!

Oooohhhhhh. Yes All-time told me that IF I journey to the north country next weekend, to have cab fare ready if I need a ride from a.....Burlington or was it Montreal. Anyway he let me know for a little bitty tiny fee all my moving around would be covered!  Good to know because that's a long way to go and not have a "willing" tour guide to show me around  ;).

Had the conversation during warmup and he left before team introductions! I was getting in hype mode!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2015, 03:29:26 AM
Time to recap the games that have taken place over the past few days. Time constraints will make these shorter than usual with only the principal players getting a mention.

Mother Nature finally got pi$$ed off enough at El Nino` and struck back yesterday with the season's first big snowstorm here in the North Country. Dropped 5 to 6 inches of heavy wet snow on us with drifts considerably deeper followed by sleet and freezing rain. Still digging out from that mess. Can't really complain though. Winter which can arrive as early as the end of October up here decided to hold off until the very end of 2015. Anytime you can shorten winter from 5 months to 3 (Jan, Feb and Mar) well you jump all over that option, especially when you're my age. 8-) Back to basketball.

December 28th  Oneonta State 82 Central 77 in San Juan Puerto Rico

The Red Dragons faced the toughest of the 2 holiday games on the first day of their island visit. I had Oneonta winning this one by an 85-81 final and I didn't miss either team's score by much. I had a 4 point margin of victory instead of the actual 5 point win. 

After some early ties and lead changes, Oneonta was down for much of the first period, falling behind by 10 points on 3 separate occasions. They managed to cut that deficit to 6 points at the break.

Lawrence Coleman caught fire early in the 2nd half and he nailed 3 triples in the first 4 and a half minutes, the last one giving the Red Dragons their first lead since they were in front 11-9 early in the opening half.  Seven ties abd four lead changes would follow until another Coleman basket on an inside move put Oneonta in front at 73-71 with 3:31 left to play.Another layup by Seth Thomsen made it a 2 possession game and Mikey McElroy stretched the lead to 6 points with a 3rd unanswered basket off an offensive rebound. The Red Dragons would make 5 of 6 from the line to seal this one and set the Island partying in motion.

Lawrence Coleman led Oneonta with 20 points. Mikey McElroy had 17 points and 5 rebounds. Jackson Zuvic had 12 points with 4 rebounds while Jack Dignon had 11 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. The old 4,3,2,1, deal.

The Red Dragons were outrebounded 37-29 but won the turnover battle despite handing it over 18 times. The Dutch gave it back 26 times. Thank you. Shooting stats were fairly even, as Oneonta made 1 more field goal and 3 more free throws than Central did. That was the 5 point MOV.

Colby Taylor of Central was the game's high scorer with 24 points. Taylor also captured rebounding honors with 8 boards. Nice effort in a losing cause.

Nice win for Oneonta and the SUNYAC to grab a victory from the top rated team in a conference that was  ranked 5 notches above ours.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2015, 03:30:17 AM
December 28th Brockport State 100 Bridgewater State 95 3 OT

This was a game that the Golden Eagles should have ended, without all the drama, in regulation winning by a comfortable margin. I had predicted an 83-61 Brockport win and quite frankly expected it to be a bigger MOV than that. The Golden Eagles got out of the gate slowly however and allowed this team to not only hang around but to forge an 8 or 9 point lead on numerous occasions throughout the first half as the Bears went into the break up by 8 at 36-28.

Needing to come out and assert themselves quickly, the Golden Eagles had just the opposite occur, as that 8 point Bears lead turned into a 15 point lead, 2 minutes after the opening possession. Give the Eagles credit, they didn't panic. Instead Brockport went on a 12-2 run of their own, to cut that lead to 45-40, in just under 4 minutes time. They followed that up with a 2nd outburst, this time a 16-8 spurt over another 4 minute span, and they had a lead for the first time since early in the first half, at 56-53. It was extended to a 9 point advantage at 68-59, and then their biggest margin at 74-63 with only 3:21 left to play. Things were finally going along as planned. But from that point on the Golden Eagles couldn't buy a basket as they missed everything they threw up as well as a number of free throws and they let the Bears right back into the game.

A Bridgewater 3 pointer followed by a pair of free throws cut the lead to 6 points and when Port missed the front end of a 1&1 the Bears jumped all over that chance as they buried another 3 pointer to make it a single possession game. Once more Brockport missed a 1&1 opportunity and once again Bridgewater State made them pay with a jumper that cut the lead to a single point at 74-73.

Now there was only 21 seconds left to play and the Bears had to foul sending the Golden Eagles into the double bonus. Single bonus...double bonus...it didn't matter as Brockport missed both free throws. Only this time Levi Pace was there to grab an offensive rebound and put it back in for a 3 point Brockport lead. It was at this point in the game that this writer was pleading for Brockport to foul and not let Bridgewater get off a 3 point attempt. But my words... like silent raindrops fell (with apologies to Paul and Art) and the Bridgewater player released his long range bomb with 4 seconds to go and it was nothing but net. Port failed to get off a shot and the teams headed to OT.

Not much happened in the first overtime period. Brockport  made 1 layup, committed 1 turnover and missed 7 other shots. Bridgewater State made 2 free throws, missed every shot they took, all 6 of them and committed 1 turnover. Neither team managed a single point in the final 4 minutes of the overtime period. On to overtime # 2.

This time the teams traded baskets and free throws for the entire 5 minute period. and as crunch time reared its ugly head the Golden Eagles were once more in control with a 3 point lead at 90-87 after Brockport made 1 of 2 free throws. It would have been too much to ask, to make both of the free throws, and make it a 4 point, 2 possession lead with 9 seconds left, of course. And so Bridgewater State has to take the ball out of bounds under Brockport's basket and go the length of the court, hoist up another 3 pointer and pray. So how about if we don't let them do that. Maybe pressure them on the inbounds, pressure them as they bring it upcourt to make them use a little clock, and then foul them right around midcourt with just a few seconds on the clock. Nah, let em get off another 3 pointer. Port did, and the Bears made another bomb at the buzzer to send it to a 3rd overtime. Not only did they do it again...it was the same guy who did it the first time. Mama mia!!!

Overtime #3 coming right up. It was right about here that the John Carroll coach lit his victory cigar to celebrate the win that his team would get over Brockport the next day.

In the 3rd extra session the Golden Eagles scored first on a layup by Olusola Adeniran. After the Bears turned it over, Adeniran was fouled and he made 1 of 2 to put Port up by a 93-90 score.The Eagles wouldn't make another field goal but did manage to go 7 of 10 from the line to close out the Bears in less dramatic fashion.  What's interesting to note is the Bears were down 98-95 with the ball and 13 seconds remaining. Once again Brockport allowed them to get off a 3 point attempt to tie the game with 4 seconds left. They finally missed and Port walked off crawled off the floor with the win.

Brockport got a big game from Hamed Shamseldin with 31 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists. Clifton Lylerly had 20 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. Levi Pace had 14 points and 5 rebounds off the bench. Ismael Pierre also came off the bench and just missed a double-double with 13 points, 9 rebounds, 5 steals and 2 assists.
Port won the rebounding battle with a slight 54-49 edge and only had 14 turnovers, to 22 for the Bears.
They outshot the Bears from the field but Bridgewater had better luck from long distance and from the line. It was Brockport's lack of success from the line that was the major reason that this game even got to an extra session. The Eagles were only 21 of 37 from the line and a number of missed free throws at the end of regulation is how the Bears got into bonus basketball.     

Bridgewater was led by Rocky DeAndrade with 28 points and Joseph Carty with 20.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2015, 04:08:35 AM
December 29th John Carroll 111  Brockport State 96

Well this was no surprise after Brockport spent 3 hours playing a game about 16 hours before this one started. All while John Carroll sat there and scouted the Golden Eagles and didn't have to play back to back games like Port did. I knew what my prediction of this game was going to be as soon as the game Brockport played the night before ended. I hoped it wouldn't get out of hand and I predicted an 84-74 John Carroll win. Wanted to be wrong in the worst way but figured I wouldn't be. I also said it could get ugly and hoped it wouldn't but thought that it would.

Truth be told, Brockport would probably lose to this team even if they were fresh, because the Blue Streaks are loaded this year, but I'm confident that the Eagles would have made this a much more competitive game and who knows possibly have pulled off an upset. It's one thing to play an entire game with a comfortable lead and quite another to play with every possession meaningful. Once JC got up by a healthy margin this game was over as Port didn't have enough gas in the tank to come back from a deep double digit deficit against these guys.

Not much to say about this one. Port got down early and they stayed down. The game wasn't as close as it looks. The deficit at times was 35 points and only Brockport's closing 16-2 run made it look somewhat respectable. Nice to see the guys in green and gold didn't give up and were still playing hard right to the end.

Brockport was led by 22 points from Devonn Gavin off the bench. Hamid Shamseldin had 17 and Clifton Lyerly had 10.

John Carroll had 5 guys too numerous to mention hit double figures.

Brockport falls to 5-2 and gets back from Florida to begin their journey in SUNYAC conference play. The Golden Eagles have two zeros on their card at the present time. They have had zero conference games so far this season and more surprising than that, they have yet to play a home game. On Tuesday January 5th they will take care of both of those zeros at the same time as they host the Orange Hot Bengals of Buffalo State. The Bengals, winners of 4 straight games will be in Tuttle North at 7:30 that night to try and keep their streak alive. That will be the featured game of the night in the YAC,       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 31, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
I had the pleasure of meeting and talking to Benglesrule last night before the Buffalo State game against Lehman.
I enjoyed my conversation with him. What a wonderful soft spoken man who does some fantastic work in the Buffalo area and really looks out for the kids who have come through the Buffalo state program. He loves Buffalo State almost as much as Magicman loves the Plattsburgh Cardinals.
I would love to see those two in a room together talking basketball.
I also had the pleasure of meeting one of his son's who made the trip down with him.
It really seems like a family atmosphere with the Buffalo State fans and their players. I know a lot of the players
want to come back after graduation and help out the basketball program. That is a tremendous tribute to Coach Ansari and his staff.
I've become a Big Fan of Buffalo State and the Plattsburgh Cardinals after having the pleasure of speaking to you guys.
Keep up the Great Posts and let 2016 be the year of the SUNYAC.
Wishing you and your families a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
December 29th Gustavus Adolphus 55  Oneonta State 48

At least I could find a reason for Brockport's loss to John Carroll. I'm still rubbing my eyes as I look at this score, not quite believing what I'm seeing. Absolutely no way that the Red Dragons should lose this game. Especially after playing the teams that they have scheduled this year. Oneonta, I believe, has played one of the toughest non-conference schedules in the country and certainly the SUNYAC conference. They are currently ranked as having the 33rd toughest schedule in all of Division III. And then something like this anomaly comes along.

The Gusties  put it to the Red Dragons right out of the gate and wasted little time in running out to a double digit lead as they were up 12-2 three minutes after the opening tip. Oneonta scored 5 straight points to halve that deficit,but a short time later the Gusties started a run that would take them over the next 10 minutes to a 31-13 lead with 5:14 remaining. In fact they held the Red Dragons to a grand total of 6 points, from the 16:27 mark down to the 1:11 mark, a period of over 15 minutes. Oneonta scored a layup, a 3 pointer and a single free throw in that timeframe. During that span  they missed 10 shots and  committed 4 turnovers that we know of. There may be more misses or turnovers, but curiously the live stat log is missing any information that took place between 4:57 down to 2:08, a period of nearly 3 minutes. Apparently the Oneonta players weren't  the only ones sleeping at this game.

The Red Dragons managed a pair of free throws inside the final minute, to cut the lead to 18 points at 33-15 heading into the locker room. I may be wrong but I'd be willing to bet that the 15 points scored in the first half might be a low point for Oneonta since the inception of the shot clock.

Needing some kind of lift out of the break to get back into this game the Red Dragons frittered away the first half of the period and were down 46-25 with under 11 minutes remaining. Instead of gaining ground, the hole was deeper. Still down 19 points with 10 minutes to go, Oneonta finally realized that they were actually in a basketball game and not sunbathing on the beach with the local beauties. They put a run together that would carry them all the way to within 4 points at 50-46, as they outscored the Gusties 18-3 in a little over 7 minutes. Two Ian Schuppp  back to back 3 pointers were the big blows that got them that close with 2:13 remaining. But that was as close as they got.

After stopping the Gusties on their next possession, Oneonta, needing to score came up short as well. A Gustavus grabbed the defensive rebound and was fouled. Then technicals were called on each side. When that was all said and done the Gusties had a 6 point lead, the clock stood at 43 seconds and the Red Dragons were running out of chances and time. Lawrence Coleman hit a jumper, Oneonta fouled and the Gusties made both free throws. Oneonta missed a 3 on the ensuing possession and that was all she wrote. One more Gustie free throw accounted for the final point. I think if there had been another 5 minutes to go in this game the Red Dragons would have won, but you have to come to play when the ball is tossed up for the initial tip off, you can't just play when you want to. Hopefully the team will learn from this game and bring it every night, especially next Tuesday. ;D

Lawrence Coleman was the only Red Dragon player to hit double figures as he had 15  points, 5 rebounds,2 blocks and a steal. Jackson Zuvuc with 8 points and Mikey McElroy with 7 were next in line in the scoring column.

What is amazing is that the Red Dragons actually outshot the Gusties from the field, 43.2% (16x37) to 41.2% (21x51). They also outshot them from 3 point range 7x18 to 4x11 and they were identical from the stripe, both making 9x13 free throws. The big disparity was in the rebounding battle as the Gusties killed them off the boards 36 to 20. That resulted in quite a few more shots taken by the Gusties and ultimately decided the outcome of this game. I believe that's one of the worst poundings off the glass that the Red Dragons have taken in some time.

Gustavus Adolphus was led by Chris Narum with a game high 17 points.

Oneonta falls to 6-3 (1-1 SUNYAC) and with the non-conference portion of their schedule now complete they will focus on obtaining a spot in the YAC tournament for that elusive NCAA bid. That will begin once more in earnest when they host the Oswego State Lakers, the preseason favorite and defending conference champs on Tuesday night January 5th at 7:30 PM.
                           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
One interesting note to pass on: the Massey Ratings updated their rankings earlier today and the #1 ranked SUNYAC team is now.....and I know that no one would guess this...The Oneonta Red Dragons.

Admit it....Of the top 7 teams in the YAC how many of you reading this, thought that Oneonta would be rated by Mr.Massey as the top team in the SUNYAC right now?

Especially after that horrible loss to Gustavus Adolphus, and yes, that loss was factored into the latest rankings. Massey has Oneonta jumping up 22 spots which landed them in 54th place. He has Oswego dropping 10 placements to 57th place and Plattsburgh dropping 13 spots to 70th place. He has Geneseo also dropping but only 4 spots which now puts them ahead of Plattsburgh in 64th place. He has Cortland down in the 92nd spot with a 7-1 record (only Oswego's 8-1 record is better) and none of the aforementioned 4 teams have even played a game since the last ranking were updated. Apparently those teams have dropped in the rankings because their opponents have suffered losses, that caused them to drop. A good example is Plattsburgh's earlier opponent Skidmore. The Thoroughbreds dropped 2 games in the past few days out in Vegas at the D3hoops.com Classic. They have tumbled 87 places in the rankings down to #107, even below Plattsburgh, a team they beat by 20+ points. Conversely that has caused the Cardinals to also drop in the rankings and possibly other teams that Plattsburgh played fell a few spots as well, although Oneonta is the only other team that Plattsburgh played, that has seen recent action. Brockport has also tumbled considerably, falling 31 positions all the way down to the 99th rung in the ladder, after going 1-1 in the Florida tournament, which again has been factored into their rankings. 

However, the strangest placement of all and one that surely puzzles my friend from Buffalo State (as  well as yours truly) is where Massey has his Bengals spotted. Buffalo State, with probably sorry there's no doubt about it, some of the strongest non-conference wins of any SUNYAC team is only ahead of the 3 bottom dwellers of the YAC and is listed in the 109th spot, which is a drop of 6 places from their previous position. Massey is showing them with a 5-2-1 record. Excuuusse Me,  Mr Massey this ain't hockey, or football. There are no ties in basketball. Yesterday when I looked at the Massey Ratings and spotted that 5-2-1 record I clicked on Buff State and brought up what Massey was showing as their complete game log. He was showing the game against New Jersey City as a 119-119 score. So there's your tie. However today that same 5-2-1- record is next to the Bengals but the game against New Jersey City has mysteriously disappeared. Not only that but New Jersey City and Lehman don't even show up on the Bengals schedule. Their schedule shows the game they won against Alfred and then jumps to their next conference game against Brockport on January 5th. Mr. Massey, it would appear, seems to be out to lunch. Instead of showing Buffalo State with a 7-2 record, which no doubt with those last 2 wins would bump them up the rankings considerably, he instead, has them at 5-2-1. How does that 1 after the 5-2 not raise some kind of red flag? Massey also shows New Jersey City with a  7-2-1 record reflecting that tie game with Buffalo as well. And again the Buffalo State game doesn't show up in New Jersey's game log. What does show up is a game (with no score) against Lehman on Dec.30th, when in fact New Jersey City played and lost badly to Western Connecticut yesterday, not Lehman. So where are the Gothic Knights ranked...right below Plattsburgh and well ahead of Buffalo State at #71. Oh well, this isn't the first time Mr. Massey has butchered the Bengals and their record, along with their ranking. I wonder if he just doesn't like Buffalo...or maybe he just doesn't like Bengalsrule. The good news is that the NCAA doesn't consult with Mr.Massey when they go about choosing their at large teams for the Dance....At least I don't think they do, Champ. ;D                           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2015, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 01:43:43 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Thought you might have gotten a message!

Oooohhhhhh. Yes All-time told me that IF I journey to the north country next weekend, to have cab fare ready if I need a ride from a.....Burlington or was it Montreal. Anyway he let me know for a little bitty tiny fee all my moving around would be covered!  Good to know because that's a long way to go and not have a "willing" tour guide to show me around  ;).

Had the conversation during warmup and he left before team introductions! I was getting in hype mode!! ;D

You must have wax in your ears. Pretty sure the words little bitty and tiny weren't part of the converstion. Also pretty sure the message was: "No free rides when you show up in Plattsburgh this year. The taxicab meter will be running so bring your wallet." And cash only none of this credit card $h!t.   

Also I got this message from you on December 29th:

"Last year you took me to a subway that have is a good deal. If the deal is still the same, do you think that I can bum another ride ;D??"

Translated with the help of my crystal ball I think this... "that have is a good deal".. is supposed to read ..."that gave us a good deal."

I think someone with large fingers was trying to use a phone to type and send a message.

Remember I sent you a message that said:
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
Champ,
At some point this year someone is going to walk up to you with a message from me and you need to pay attention. You won't know when it will happen but it will occur when you least expect it, somewhere on a court, far far from home.

Well that message was sent to you by my messenger, days before you sent me your message, proving once again, that my prognosticating abilities are 2nd to none. Knowing your request before you even requested it allowed me to send you the answer to your request so you would receive it on Wednesday, when you least expected it, on a court, far, far, from home.  Read that over again so you've got it.  ;D

And keep repeating to yourself all week long...cash, cash, I must bring lots of cash. There's snow on the ground here now and it's cold. It'll be tough on anybody forced to walk around to do their errands. Especially visitors.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 05:38:25 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 31, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
I had the pleasure of meeting and talking to Benglesrule last night before the Buffalo State game against Lehman.
I enjoyed my conversation with him. What a wonderful soft spoken man who does some fantastic work in the Buffalo area and really looks out for the kids who have come through the Buffalo state program. He loves Buffalo State almost as much as Magicman loves the Plattsburgh Cardinals.
I would love to see those two in a room together talking basketball.
I also had the pleasure of meeting one of his son's who made the trip down with him.
It really seems like a family atmosphere with the Buffalo State fans and their players. I know a lot of the players
want to come back after graduation and help out the basketball program. That is a tremendous tribute to Coach Ansari and his staff.
I've become a Big Fan of Buffalo State and the Plattsburgh Cardinals after having the pleasure of speaking to you guys.
Keep up the Great Posts and let 2016 be the year of the SUNYAC.
Wishing you and your families a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.

Pleasure was all mine, All-time!  Always good to put a face with a name. I have no doubt that we will cross paths again!   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
One interesting note to pass on: the Massey Ratings updated their rankings earlier today and the #1 ranked SUNYAC team is now.....and I know that no one would guess this...The Oneonta Red Dragons.

Admit it....Of the top 7 teams in the YAC how many of you reading this, thought that Oneonta would be rated by Mr.Massey as the top team in the SUNYAC right now?

Especially after that horrible loss to Gustavus Adolphus, and yes, that loss was factored into the latest rankings. Massey has Oneonta jumping up 22 spots which landed them in 54th place. He has Oswego dropping 10 placements to 57th place and Plattsburgh dropping 13 spots to 70th place. He has Geneseo also dropping but only 4 spots which now puts them ahead of Plattsburgh in 64th place. He has Cortland down in the 92nd spot with a 7-1 record (only Oswego's 8-1 record is better) and none of the aforementioned 4 teams have even played a game since the last ranking were updated. Apparently those teams have dropped in the rankings because their opponents have suffered losses, that caused them to drop. A good example is Plattsburgh's earlier opponent Skidmore. The Thoroughbreds dropped 2 games in the past few days out in Vegas at the D3hoops.com Classic. They have tumbled 87 places in the rankings down to #107, even below Plattsburgh, a team they beat by 20+ points. Conversely that has caused the Cardinals to also drop in the rankings and possibly other teams that Plattsburgh played fell a few spots as well, although Oneonta is the only other team that Plattsburgh played, that has seen recent action. Brockport has also tumbled considerably, falling 31 positions all the way down to the 99th rung in the ladder, after going 1-1 in the Florida tournament, which again has been factored into their rankings. 

However, the strangest placement of all and one that surely puzzles my friend from Buffalo State (as  well as yours truly) is where Massey has his Bengals spotted. Buffalo State, with probably sorry there's no doubt about it, some of the strongest non-conference wins of any SUNYAC team is only ahead of the 3 bottom dwellers of the YAC and is listed in the 109th spot, which is a drop of 6 places from their previous position. Massey is showing them with a 5-2-1 record. Excuuusse Me,  Mr Massey this ain't hockey, or football. There are no ties in basketball. Yesterday when I looked at the Massey Ratings and spotted that 5-2-1 record I clicked on Buff State and brought up what Massey was showing as their complete game log. He was showing the game against New Jersey City as a 119-119 score. So there's your tie. However today that same 5-2-1- record is next to the Bengals but the game against New Jersey City has mysteriously disappeared. Not only that but New Jersey City and Lehman don't even show up on the Bengals schedule. Their schedule shows the game they won against Alfred and then jumps to their next conference game against Brockport on January 5th. Mr. Massey, it would appear, seems to be out to lunch. Instead of showing Buffalo State with a 7-2 record, which no doubt with those last 2 wins would bump them up the rankings considerably, he instead, has them at 5-2-1. How does that 1 after the 5-2 not raise some kind of red flag? Massey also shows New Jersey City with a  7-2-1 record reflecting that tie game with Buffalo as well. And again the Buffalo State game doesn't show up in New Jersey's game log. What does show up is a game (with no score) against Lehman on Dec.30th, when in fact New Jersey City played and lost badly to Western Connecticut yesterday, not Lehman. So where are the Gothic Knights ranked...right below Plattsburgh and well ahead of Buffalo State at #71. Oh well, this isn't the first time Mr. Massey has butchered the Bengals and their record, along with their ranking. I wonder if he just doesn't like Buffalo...or maybe he just doesn't like Bengalsrule. The good news is that the NCAA doesn't consult with Mr.Massey when they go about choosing their at large teams for the Dance....At least I don't think they do, Champ. ;D                           

Well I'll be damned!!!!  Magicman, please call Ken and straighten him out.  I used to like the guy!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2015, 04:27:23 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 01:43:43 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 30, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Thought you might have gotten a message!

Oooohhhhhh. Yes All-time told me that IF I journey to the north country next weekend, to have cab fare ready if I need a ride from a.....Burlington or was it Montreal. Anyway he let me know for a little bitty tiny fee all my moving around would be covered!  Good to know because that's a long way to go and not have a "willing" tour guide to show me around  ;).

Had the conversation during warmup and he left before team introductions! I was getting in hype mode!! ;D

You must have wax in your ears. Pretty sure the words little bitty and tiny weren't part of the converstion. Also pretty sure the message was: "No free rides when you show up in Plattsburgh this year. The taxicab meter will be running so bring your wallet." And cash only none of this credit card $h!t.   

Also I got this message from you on December 29th:

"Last year you took me to a subway that have is a good deal. If the deal is still the same, do you think that I can bum another ride ;D??"

Translated with the help of my crystal ball I think this... "that have is a good deal".. is supposed to read ..."that gave us a good deal."

I think someone with large fingers was trying to use a phone to type and send a message.

Remember I sent you a message that said:
Quote from: magicman on December 28, 2015, 08:22:45 PM
Champ,
At some point this year someone is going to walk up to you with a message from me and you need to pay attention. You won't know when it will happen but it will occur when you least expect it, somewhere on a court, far far from home.

Well that message was sent to you by my messenger, days before you sent me your message, proving once again, that my prognosticating abilities are 2nd to none. Knowing your request before you even requested it allowed me to send you the answer to your request so you would receive it on Wednesday, when you least expected it, on a court, far, far, from home.  Read that over again so you've got it.  ;D

And keep repeating to yourself all week long...cash, cash, I must bring lots of cash. There's snow on the ground here now and it's cold. It'll be tough on anybody forced to walk around to do their errands. Especially visitors.

Say no more!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on December 31, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
Happy New Year to my SUNYAC friends. Don't indulge in too many Cherry Cokes! I may have a drink or two tonight.

Looking forward to 2016!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2015, 06:49:00 PM
Bengalsrule,

I don't have Ken Massey's phone number. However a connected guy like yourself, who counts presidential candidates on their list of friends, and spends half of your life on the phone, must surely have Massey's phone number. I suggest you go right to the source yourself and straighten him out. It's not like you lack ammunition to confront him with. ??? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2015, 06:49:00 PM
Bengalsrule,

I don't have Ken Massey's phone number. However a connected guy like yourself, who counts presidential candidates on their list of friends, and spends half of your life on the phone, must surely have Massey's phone number. I suggest you go right to the source yourself and straighten him out. It's not like you lack ammunition to confront him with. ???

Who loves you??? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 10:05:02 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2015, 06:49:00 PM
Bengalsrule,

I don't have Ken Massey's phone number. However a connected guy like yourself, who counts presidential candidates on their list of friends, and spends half of your life on the phone, must surely have Massey's phone number. I suggest you go right to the source yourself and straighten him out. It's not like you lack ammunition to confront him with. ???

I have located Mr. Massey and have sent him my "ammunition" I gotta believe that once he reads his email, he will fix the problem. Hopefully Buff State and the SUNYAC will both benefit!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2015, 06:49:00 PM
Bengalsrule,

I don't have Ken Massey's phone number. However a connected guy like yourself, who counts presidential candidates on their list of friends, and spends half of your life on the phone, must surely have Massey's phone number. I suggest you go right to the source yourself and straighten him out. It's not like you lack ammunition to confront him with. ???

I have located Mr. Massey and have sent him my "ammunition" I gotta believe that once he reads his email, he will fix the problem. Hopefully Buff State and the SUNYAC will both benefit!

As McCloud always used to say... "There you go"!!  And the warm and fuzzy feeling you get from doing that yourself, instead of having the magicman do it for you, is well worth the effort expended....isn't it?  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:16:56 AM
amh63 was right,

Give the guy a few crayons and he goes crazy with all the coloring.  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 01, 2016, 04:32:43 AM
I can be a late poster too! haha. Although I haven't gone to bed yet. Not sure if I'm insomniac or not, or all the cherry cokes have kept me awake. Either way, I am looking forward to the conference schedule!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:42:31 AM
Happy New Year to all the posters, friends, players, and guests that frequent this board. I hope the New Year is a happy, fun filled time, that brings good health and lots of wealth to everyone.

As my friend from Buffalo has stated in the past...we really do have one of the best boards around. We may lack the quantity that some other boards have, but our quality is hard to beat.  8-) And with the recent additions of All-Time and pg04 our quality only got better.

My prediction (and you guys know how I love to predict things) is the SUNYAC board will continue to grow and more online friendships will become face to face friendships in reality. Good luck to all in 2016!       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:44:42 AM
Quote from: pg04 on January 01, 2016, 04:32:43 AM
I can be a late poster too! haha. Although I haven't gone to bed yet. Not sure if I'm insomniac or not, or all the cherry cokes have kept me awake. Either way, I am looking forward to the conference schedule!

I'm enjoying a cherry coke as I type this. I've had a few tonight. And yes you are up quite late as well. Happy New Year.

Didn't know you were up until I just posted my greetings,
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2016, 02:19:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:16:56 AM
amh63 was right,

Give the guy a few crayons and he goes crazy with all the coloring.  :D

Something tells me that I may have to skip my drive up to the north country next week. The magicman has sure been hard on me lately!! :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2016, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 31, 2015, 10:32:42 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 31, 2015, 06:49:00 PM
Bengalsrule,

I don't have Ken Massey's phone number. However a connected guy like yourself, who counts presidential candidates on their list of friends, and spends half of your life on the phone, must surely have Massey's phone number. I suggest you go right to the source yourself and straighten him out. It's not like you lack ammunition to confront him with. ???

I have located Mr. Massey and have sent him my "ammunition" I gotta believe that once he reads his email, he will fix the problem. Hopefully Buff State and the SUNYAC will both benefit!

As McCloud always used to say... "There you go"!!  And the warm and fuzzy feeling you get from doing that yourself, instead of having the magicman do it for you, is well worth the effort expended....isn't it?  ;)

Uh oh.... :o  Something is happening with the Massey ratings. I've tried to bring it up twice just now,  and both times I get the dreaded This webpage is not available notice!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:42:31 AM
Happy New Year to all the posters, friends, players, and guests that frequent this board. I hope the New Year is a happy, fun filled time, that brings good health and lots of wealth to everyone.

As my friend from Buffalo has stated in the past...we really do have one of the best boards around. We may lack the quantity that some other boards have, but our quality is hard to beat.  8-) And with the recent additions of All-Time and pg04 our quality only got better.

My prediction (and you guys know how I love to predict things) is the SUNYAC board will continue to grow and more online friendships will become face to face friendships in reality. Good luck to all in 2016!     

Ditto to what the magic 1 said!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
Massey still down!  (that's gotta mean something good is happening/getting fixed  )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2016, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2016, 02:19:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:16:56 AM
amh63 was right,

Give the guy a few crayons and he goes crazy with all the coloring.  :D

Something tells me that I may have to skip my drive up to the north country next week. The magicman has sure been hard on me lately!! :'( :'( :'(

Who you trying to fool? You know you can't resist coming up here and busting my chops. Besides where else do you get treated like visiting royalty? And if it will make you feel better I won't charge you for the taxi service of carting you around for the weekend, despite the message that was delivered to you the other day. It's the New Year and I'm in a giving mood.  ;)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2016, 07:38:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2016, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 01, 2016, 02:19:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2016, 04:16:56 AM
amh63 was right,

Give the guy a few crayons and he goes crazy with all the coloring.  :D

Something tells me that I may have to skip my drive up to the north country next week. The magicman has sure been hard on me lately!! :'( :'( :'(

Who you trying to fool? You know you can't resist coming up here and busting my chops. Besides where else do you get treated like visiting royalty? And if it will make you feel better I won't charge you for the taxi service of carting you around for the weekend, despite the message that was delivered to you the other day. It's the New Year and I'm in a giving mood.  ;)   

See you Friday ( weather permitting)! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2016, 08:33:29 PM
A little off the beaten track. I'm watching the Rose Bowl and Christian McCaffrey, who was my choice for the Heisman Trophy, (anybody that breaks Barry Sanders' records and puts up the most total yards in NCAA history, for all divisions, deserves the Heisman) scores on a 75 yard touchdown pass on the first play of the game.

The 2nd time Stanford gets the ball, McCaffrey rushes for 5 yards, rushes for 22 yards, rushes for 19 yards and comes to the sideline for a breather. The running back that replaces him, by the way, is none other than Barry Sanders' son. ( and yes,  it's that Barry Sanders, who held the record that McCaffrey broke) Sanders gains 1 yard on 1st down, then an incomplete pass on 2nd down brings up 3rd and long. Back into the game comes McCaffrey who catches a sideways toss from the quarterback and runs for 12 yards. He then runs for 7 yards on 1st down to the Iowa 8 yard line and then the quarterback takes it in for a TD on the next play. The Cardinal went 74 yards on that drive and McCaffrey had 65 of them.

Stanford then intercepts a pass on Iowa's possession and it's returned for a touchdown making the score 21-0

After Iowa punts on their next possession, Stanford comes out throwing on 1st down for a 2 yard gain. They throw an incomplete pass on 3rd down and they have to punt. In between those 2 passes they handed off to McCaffrey and he lost a yard. Stanford punts but then Iowa goes 3 and out and they have to punt. The 1st quarter ends 1 play before they punted so it's barely the start of the 2nd quarter when they kick it to Stanford. McCaffrey gathers in the punt at his own 37 yard line, runs up the gut, and eludes a couple of tacklers, then breaks to the outside and races down the left sideline to the end zone for a 63 yard punt return, making it 35-0.

It was at this point in the game that ESPN announcer Brent Musburger, rambling as usual, said this McCaffrey kid is a magicman. ???  Now I have to send him a message telling him that name is already taken and royalties are in order here. However if I have to share it, Christian McCaffrey is a good choice to go with.   

This game is 15 minutes and 48 seconds old and McCaffrey who gained over 220 yards in a game 10 times this season, already has 232 yards in basically 1 quarter.

Up 35-0, Stanford started spreading the ball around to other players so McCaffrey didn't get many touches in the 2nd quarter. He did have another 50 or 60 yard run for a touchdown, but the refs threw a flag on the play for holding and the TD was wiped off the board.

Late in the 4th quarter McCaffery catches a pass for a 7 yard gain. That gives him a record 368 total yards. He has 172 yards rushing, 105 yards receiving, and 91 kick return yards. Not a bad day at the office. I predict he will win the Rose Bowl's MVP award. Had all I could do to come up with that prediction.  :D

In the other, biggest game of the year for Stanford, which was the PAC-12 Championship game against Southern Cal, McCaffrey lit up the Trojans for a 461 yard day...207 rushing, 105 receiving and 129 on kick returns as they beat USC by a 41-22 rout.

I think their are 3 reasons this kid didn't get the Heisman trophy, (he finished 2nd in the voting). #1. His school never started a Heisman campaign for him until November 10th when the Cardinal had already played 10 games. Most schools start a players Heisman campaign before the season even starts. #2. There were 157 Heisman voters who turned in their vote before the PAC 12 Championship game. Had they waited and witnessed his performance in that game, or even read about it, he might very well have won the Heisman.
#3. He plays on the West Coast and as pg04 said, if you aren't Oregon or USC you don't get the exposure that schools in other regions of the country get. There are not many people on the East Coast tuning in to watch those late games out West that start at 10 PM EST.

He was Sports Illustrated's College Football Player of the Year.

Christian's father is Ed McCaffrey who also went to Stanford and was drafted by the New York Giants where he played for 3 years. He also played 1 year for the 49ers and won a Super Bowl and 9 years for the Broncos and won 2 Super Bowls. Christian, only a sophomore at Stanford, has a brother Max who was a senior wide receiver at Duke this year.  He also has 2 younger brothers, and one of them Dylan, is one of the top ranked quarterbacks in the country, (2nd ranked actually) and he will graduate from high school in 2017. He has offers from a host of Division 1 school already. The youngest McCaffrey, Luke, is currently a freshman in high school.  Christian's mother was a  very good soccer player at Stanford and her father was a world class sprinter Good genes in that family, no wonder they have so many football players in the family, especially  at the skill positions.       
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 01, 2016, 08:50:29 PM
I feel like anyone who turned in their vote before the games were done should have their votes revoked. But that's another story. I agree that McCaffrey should have won the Heisman. Sometimes I feel like I watch more football than the voters do. Henry's season was great bu there was just something (and in deference to magicman himself) magical about Christian's season. Being on the west coast (and not at USC or Oregon) hurt him. The eastern blocks never seem to see these players on a weekly basis.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2016, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 01, 2016, 08:50:29 PM
I feel like anyone who turned in their vote before the games were done should have their votes revoked. But that's another story. I agree that McCaffrey should have won the Heisman. Sometimes I feel like I watch more football than the voters do. Henry's season was great but there was just something (and in deference to magicman himself) magical about Christian's season. Being on the west coast (and not at USC or Oregon) hurt him. The eastern blocks never seem to see these players on a weekly basis.

Yeah, you're right about the West Coast- East Coast thing, and I meant to add that in my post as a 3rd reason, which I'm going to revise.

Also correct that those early voters should have their voting privileges revoked. They obviously never listened to Yogi who warned them " it ain't over till it's over." Ultimately I think that was the biggest reason he missed out on the award.

The good news is he looks to be returning to Stanford next year and he seems to be a team first, humble player, from the interview shown at the end of the game.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 01, 2016, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 01, 2016, 08:33:29 PM
A little off the beaten track. I'm watching the Rose Bowl and Christian McCaffrey, who was my choice for the Heisman Trophy, (anybody that breaks Barry Sanders' records and puts up the most total yards in NCAA history, for all divisions, deserves the Heisman) scores on a 75 yard touchdown pass on the first play of the game.

The 2nd time Stanford gets the ball, McCaffrey rushes for 5 yards, rushes for 22 yards, rushes for 19 yards and comes to the sideline for a breather. The running back that replaces him, by the way, is none other than Barry Sanders' son. ( and yes,  it's that Barry Sanders, who held the record that McCaffrey broke) Sanders gains 1 yard on 1st down, then an incomplete pass on 2nd down brings up 3rd and long. Back into the game comes McCaffrey who catches a sideways toss from the quarterback and runs for 12 yards. He then runs for 7 yards on 1st down to the Iowa 8 yard line and then the quarterback takes it in for a TD on the next play. The Cardinal went 74 yards on that drive and McCaffrey had 65 of them.

Stanford then intercepts a pass on Iowa's possession and it's returned for a touchdown making the score 21-0

After Iowa punts on their next possession, Stanford comes out throwing on 1st down for a 2 yard gain. They throw an incomplete pass on 3rd down and they have to punt. In between those 2 passes they handed off to McCaffrey and he lost a yard. Stanford punts but then Iowa goes 3 and out and they have to punt. The 1st quarter ends 1 play before they punted so it's barely the start of the 2nd quarter when they kick it to Stanford. McCaffrey gathers in the punt at his own 37 yard line, runs up the gut, and eludes a couple of tacklers, then breaks to the outside and races down the left sideline to the end zone for a 63 yard punt return, making it 35-0.

It was at this point in the game that ESPN announcer Brent Musburger, rambling as usual, said this McCaffrey kid is a magicman. ???  Now I have to send him a message telling him that name is already taken and royalties are in order here. However if I have to share it, Christian McCaffrey is a good choice to go with.   

This game is 15 minutes and 48 seconds old and McCaffrey who gained over 220 yards in a game 10 times this season, already has 232 yards in basically 1 quarter.

Up 35-0, Stanford started spreading the ball around to other players so McCaffrey didn't get many touches in the 2nd quarter. He did have another 50 or 60 yard run for a touchdown, but the refs threw a flag on the play for holding and the TD was wiped off the board.

Late in the 4th quarter McCaffery catches a pass for a 7 yard gain. That gives him a record 368 total yards. He has 172 yards rushing, 105 yards receiving, and 91 kick return yards. Not a bad day at the office. I predict he will win the Rose Bowl's MVP award. Had all I could do to come up with that prediction.  :D

In the other, biggest game of the year for Stanford, which was the PAC-12 Championship game against Southern Cal, McCaffrey lit up the Trojans for a 461 yard day...207 rushing, 105 receiving and 129 on kick returns as they beat USC by a 41-22 rout.

I think their are 3 reasons this kid didn't get the Heisman trophy, (he finished 2nd in the voting). #1. His school never started a Heisman campaign for him until November 10th when the Cardinal had already played 10 games. Most schools start a players Heisman campaign before the season even starts. #2. There were 157 Heisman voters who turned in their vote before the PAC 12 Championship game. Had they waited and witnessed his performance in that game, or even read about it, he might very well have won the Heisman.
#3. He plays on the West Coast and as pg04 said, if you aren't Oregon or USC you don't get the exposure that schools in other regions of the country get. There are not many people on the East Coast tuning in to watch those late games out West that start at 10 PM EST.

He was Sports Illustrated's College Football Player of the Year.

Christian's father is Ed McCaffrey who also went to Stanford and was drafted by the New York Giants where he played for 3 years. He also played 1 year for the 49ers and won a Super Bowl and 9 years for the Broncos and won 2 Super Bowls. Christian, only a sophomore at Stanford, has a brother Max who was a senior wide receiver at Duke this year.  He also has 2 younger brothers, and one of them Dylan, is one of the top ranked quarterbacks in the country, (2nd ranked actually) and he will graduate from high school in 2017. He has offers from a host of Division 1 school already. The youngest McCaffrey, Luke, is currently a freshman in high school.  Christian's mother was a  very good soccer player at Stanford and her father was a world class sprinter Good genes in that family, no wonder they have so many football players in the family, especially  at the skill positions.       


  And Uncle Billy, Ed's brother, was a very good bballer at Vanderbilt.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2016, 01:44:27 PM

Cortland rolling over homestanding Medaille 43-27 at the midway mark. B. Estarfaa at 14-seconds launches RDragons' 3-point fest. Corts 11x27 treys and 15x34fg. M. Kelly off the bench for 10 points(4x5fg, 2x3 3s) in 6' of play. J. Morales 9 pts(3x4 3s), Estarfaa 7 pts(2 3s). S. Martinez 6 reb for 7-1 Cortland. Leads 41-19 on Kelly 3-pter. Opens the game with 23-4 run. Medaille 3-6 coming in.

Can view this action for $5. No thanks .....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 02, 2016, 01:44:27 PM

Cortland rolling over homestanding Medaille 43-27 at the midway mark. B. Estarfaa at 14-seconds launches RDragons' 3-point fest. Corts 11x27 treys and 15x34fg. M. Kelly off the bench for 10 points(4x5fg, 2x3 3s) in 6' of play. J. Morales 9 pts(3x4 3s), Estarfaa 7 pts(2 3s). S. Martinez 6 reb for 7-1 Cortland. Leads 41-19 on Kelly 3-pter. Opens the game with 23-4 run. Medaille 3-6 coming in.

Can view this action for $5. No thanks .....

$5.00??  Heck it was free to get here inside medaille gym today. I would have been pissed if I paid $5.00 to watch this massacre. Must admit that medaille is missing the points and steals leader and 2nd leading rebounder Johhnie Belton. He's watching the game from the balcony while he battles mono.  I'd like to think that medaille can give cortland a contest in the 2nd half. I doubt it though !!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2016, 02:29:42 PM
80-60 red dragons with 3:40 left. Medaille starting to clear thier bench. Wouldn't be surprised if half ( or at least 38%) of thier baskets were from beyond the arc!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 02, 2016, 02:43:09 PM
Cortland over Medaille 87-67 in Buffalo to run its record to 8-1.  Bursts out to 23-4 lead and holds 43-27 intermission lead. Hosts within 46-35 three minutes into the second period but J. Morales quickly responds with a RDragon 3-pointer. Margin grows to 62-44 on G. Carter trey off B. Estarfaa's fourth assist. Morales with 20 pts(7x9fg, 6x8 3s) in 24 minutes of action. M. Kelly in 19 minutes scores 18 pts(7x11fg, 2x5 3s); Estarfaa 15 pts, 6 rebs, 5 assts in 32 minutes; Carter 12 pts, 8 rebs, 5 assts in 32'; S. Martinez 8 rebs. 3 assts in 20'.

Corts toss up 44 3-pters and make 15. Go 33x69fg overall. Medaille's J. Fagan 16 pts, M. Hollenbeck 17 pts. Buff club 7x25 3s, 26x60fg

Cortland at New Paltz on Tuesday

To view was teased with a short video, then informed we must buy a $5 ticket to continue ........... Supplied by BoxCast, a smarter way to stream .....or so they claim (richer for sure$$$$!!!!!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2016, 05:12:50 PM
64% 3 ptrs.  And what's surprising is medaille stayed in zone for a good part of the 2nd half after getting torched by the red dragons from the outside in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2016, 05:41:58 PM
I looked at the game today and had Cortland winning by an 85-72 final score. Then when I heard that Johnathan Belton was out again and after the Mavericks lost to Utica College without him, I knew there was no way in hell, they were going to be able to hang with Cortland so I took this game right off the board. Glad to see the Red Dragons didn't disappoint.

In actuality, I was going to pick Cortland by that above mentioned score. However I came to work today expecting a slow day in my store and I never had a chance to look at the SUNYAC board or D3 hoops scoreboard all day long. A local school decided to start a music program and I was swamped with parents coming in to rent instruments. Still at my store and will be here for a while, playing catchup.

With the cancellation of the New Paltz-Kean game there is only 1 remaining game left for the SUNYAC to complete the non-conference portion of the schedule. That game is Monday night right here in Plattsburgh as my Cardinals take on a tough Trinity (Conn.) team.

Has anyone heard any news out of New Paltz concerning the players in the accident?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2016, 08:21:26 PM
No update.  A Buff State coach only would say that he received an email from New Platz coach Mike Rejniak outlining what I had shared last week. New Paltz students-athletes have been meeting with counsellors for the past week. I guess no news is good news!!

Pray for New Paltz

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 03, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
New Paltz is back to practice and plan to play Cortland on Tuesday. Two of the three players have been cleared to play... the third is still fighting hard in the hospital, but I wouldn't expect him to return this season.

I can't imagine what that team is going through, but they have a strong coach in Mike Rejniak and I am sure they will possibly be playing some inspired ball the rest of the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Thank you for the update, Dave. That is good news... to hear that the two players have been cleared to play. I hope the player still hospitalized pulls through without any long term effects on his health. Plus K to you and Bengalsrule.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 03, 2016, 09:03:21 PM
Good news indeed. I hope the remaining player continues to improve.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 04, 2016, 10:12:42 AM
Glad to hear the New Paltz team is back to practice and prayers to the injured players.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 04, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
OK....know that Magicman has been actually working of late....am interested to hear his take of the game with Trinity tonight.  May even watch the game online....after the Amherst WBB game at Albright.  Trinity, last season's Nescac regular season winner is a hard team to read.  They play like their coach who is a sideline pacer and very expressive...in short...up and down.  Trinity is a deep team that can go hot and cold on offense.  Have not watched them this year to see if their defensive side has improved. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 04, 2016, 03:44:11 PM
I like Plattsburgh tonight against Trinity.
I know the Magicman will have his Magic Wand out at Memorial Hall, so that is good enough for me.
Can't wait to watch this one tonight.
GO CARDINALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2016, 03:59:47 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 04, 2016, 03:44:11 PM
I like Plattsburgh tonight against Trinity.
I know the Magicman will have his Magic Wand out at Memorial Hall, so that is good enough for me.
Can't wait to watch this one tonight.
GO CARDINALS
I'm with you All-Time on this 1. "Magic wand", magic potion...and it's rumored that as we text he is working on a magic spell to help subdue Trinity.  I don't think that the Cards will need that much help but the Magic 1 knows that this is the Sunyacs last chance for a quality win. I'm expecting Curle to have his Cards ready!

Go Cards ( last time I'm saying that till ncaas)

Go Sunyac

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2016, 04:19:04 PM
January 4th Trinity (Conn.)  at  Plattsburgh State  7:00 PM

I thought the final non-conference game of the SUNYAC took place tonight but I see that Fredonia State has a scheduled game against SUNY-Canton much later on February 17th. I don't believe the game between New Paltz and Kean will be re-scheduled as it says cancelled on the schedule.

The Trinity Bantams come into Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall on a 3 game winning streak and boasting an overall record of 7-3. Two of their 3 losses have come against teams that have been ranked in the D3hoops Top 25. Those teams were Eastern Connecticut (8-4), who has since fallen from a high of #14 down into the others receiving votes category and Susquehanna who is still undefeated and ranked #17 with a 12-0 record (and will probably move up in the poll coming out later today). The only other loss the Bantams have on their ledger is an opening game loss at Springfield which was the Pride's 4th game of the season and Trinity's first, which may have accounted for the only real blip on their record. More recently in a holiday tournament last Thursday and Friday the Bantams beat up on Anna Maria by an 87-58 final before they defeated Delaware Valley by a 78-64 final. Delaware Valley was 10-1 coming into that game and yesterday Del Valley defeated an unbeaten 9-0,  Swarthmore team. So the Bantams are riding a nice streak downing teams with winning records. They'd like nothing more than to add Plattsburgh to that list. 

The Bantams were the regular season NESCAC champs last year and after losing to Wesleyan in the semifinals of the conference tournament they made it to the Big Dance with a Pool C bid. In the NCAA tournament the Bantams won 3 games and advanced to the Elite Eight and a matchup with Babson. They held a 65-58 lead with under 3 minutes to go in that game but allowed Babson to tie it up and send it to overtime where Babson prevailed. So the Bantams were a whisker from going to the Final Four last March.

Trinity returned a good portion of that team, including their top 3 scorers and 6 of the top 8 players in their rotation. Frankly I'm surprised they have 3 losses at this juncture of the season. They are deep with 10 players getting double digit minutes and feature a balanced scoring attack that is led by senior guard, Jaquann Starks, with 13 ppg. Big man, Ed Ogundeko, a 6'6" junior is a F/C that averages a double-double of 12.7 ppg and 11.0 rpg. These two will be hard to contain, but if the Cardinals hope to win this game they can't let this pair go off on them. 6'6" Senior forward, Shay Ajayi, can also be troublesome with his 10.1 ppg and 7.9 rpg, so if you pay too much attention to the other 2 stars he'll make you pay as well. With a triumvirate like these 3 go to guys, it doesn't take much from the remaining players in the rotation to fill their roles and add the depth necessary to be a solid. well balanced team.

Plattsburgh counters with a deep rotation of their own but lacks the experience that the Bantams come into this game with. I also don't know which Cardinal team will show up. The team that won comfortably over Oneonta and St. Lawrence or the team that laid an egg against Skidmore and Middlebury. I have to think that this Bantam team is a stronger team than Middlebury, which doesn't bode well for the Cardinals. The Middlebury game had 3 negatives that won't be in play here. It was played on the road, it was final exam week for the Cardinal players, and the team was shorthanded with 3 players out. I'm just not sure if that will be enough to overcome a very good Trinity team.

Once again my heart and my head are in conflict. The oddsmakers, strangely, had made the Cardinals a slight favorite going into yesterday, but after the updated games were factored into the equation, most likely Trinity's win over Delaware Valley, the line has changed and the Bantams are a 2 point road favorite. I think they should be favored by more. So even though I think the Cardinals may be in a bit over their heads and have been off for 2 weeks, I'm still going with my heart (because I almost always do when it comes to the Cardinals) and picking Plattsburgh to squeak out a 75-72 win here, but won't be at all surprised if Trinity is the one doing the squeaking.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2016, 04:26:04 PM
Happy to see my fellow posters drinking the same RED KOOL-AID that I'm guzzling but not sure if all my magic powers and accoutrements can prevail against a top echelon NESCAC team. Hopefully our combined powers will do the trick. ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2016, 05:00:19 PM
Newsflash... Massey reads his emails!

Buff State 7-2 ranked #71 (jumped 33 places) in Massey (thought we'd be higher but it beats #112)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2016, 05:00:19 PM
Newsflash... Massey reads his emails!

Buff State 7-2 ranked #71 (jumped 33 places) in Massey (thought we'd be higher but it beats #112)

Glad to hear that. Was getting tired of seeing the Bengals with a 5-2 record and ranked below New Jersey City and Lehman. Now if only he hadn't dunked my Cardinals who were in the mid 50's after their 2 wins in Florida and have sunk into the 84th position without even playing or losing any games since then. ??? Cards were the 2nd highest ranked SUNYAC team and now they are the 5th ranked YAC team. All due to the losses their opponents have suffered over the past 2 weeks. :P :( 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 04, 2016, 08:19:02 PM
Plattsburgh hanging tough. Down 4 with 7 minutes to play.
What happened to Richardson? I see a bandage on his left hand.
With Richardson Plattsburgh beats up on Trinity.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 04, 2016, 08:41:57 PM
Gritty performance by Plattsburgh to beat Trinity.
I will let the Magicman give you all the details.
The Magic Wand was definitely in the house.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 04, 2016, 09:11:06 PM
OMG   -  I take a couple of weeks off thinking everyone is off on semester break and I have to read 71 pages in their entirety .....what a "lost soul of d3 hoops" am I?!  The YAC is tough - no doubt about it!!  Happy New Year to all of the usual suspects!!!  Thanks for bringing me back to the land of the informed!!??!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 04, 2016, 09:43:37 PM
Watched almost all the Cardinals''  win over the Bantams.  The last 2-3 minutes were revealing.  Do not understand the player moves by the HC of Trinity over that period.  Remember the first year he entered the league.  I sat with his wife's family on the Amherst side of the game....seems the top guard for Amherst is family.
Anyway, if Plattsbugh plays the rest of the season with the same energy, good chance that Amherst will meet Plattsburgh in the post season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 has been released and the SUNYAC gets 3 teams with some votes.

Oswego State jumps back into the Top 25. The Lakers, after making a brief appearance in Week 1 at # 25 and falling out in Week 2 are back with their highest placement this season as they check in at #20. They received 88 points and outpointed #21 Scranton by a single point.

Buffalo State on the basis of 2 big wins last week over the NJAC leaders New Jersey City, and the CUNYAC leaders Lehman, have moved into the Others Receiving Votes with 6 points and 51st position. Interesting that Brooklyn College, who lost to the Lehman team that Buffalo State defeated, at Lehman 82-73, gets 69 points and the  #24 spot while the Bengals only get 6 points. Stockton of the NJAC has more points than the Bengals do also, yet Buff State has less losses and is only 3 points from a perfect season. The Bengals also own a win over #20 Oswego State. I believe the Bengals have a better case for a Top 25 ranking than Brooklyn College does. ???

Geneseo still getting a little love in the Others Receiving Votes category as well as they check in with double their output of the last poll. They are now back up to 2 points.

NYU continues to be the top rated team in the East as they gain 36 points over the last poll going from 279 to 315, yet they drop down several places to 14th place from the #12 spot. That doesn't usually happen.

Lancaster Bible, out of the NEAC conference and in Pennslyvania, but in the East Region, continues to impress the voters as they are in 26th place with 52 points and sit just outside the Top 25 in the Others Receiving Votes. They are still undefeated at 8-0 and continue to receive support, despite their weak schedule and conference, based on that 94-66 pounding they laid on #17 Franklin and Marshall back on 11-21-15.

St. John Fisher, as high as #10 in Week 1, now has a 6-3 record and is no longer receiving any support and has dropped out of the poll completely after their latest loss to Oneonta back on December 13th.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 12:11:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 has been released and the SUNYAC gets 3 teams with some votes.

Oswego State jumps back into the Top 25. The Lakers, after making a brief appearance in Week 1 at # 25 and falling out in Week 2 are back with their highest placement this season as they check in at #20. They received 88 points and outpointed #21 Scranton by a single point.

Buffalo State on the basis of 2 big wins last week over the NJAC leaders New Jersey City, and the CUNYAC leaders Lehman, have moved into the Others Receiving Votes with 6 points and 51st position. Interesting that Brooklyn College, who lost to the Lehman team that Buffalo State defeated, at Lehman 82-73, gets 69 points and the  #24 spot while the Bengals only get 6 points. Stockton of the NJAC has more points than the Bengals do also, yet Buff State has less losses and is only 3 points from a perfect season. The Bengals also own a win over #20 Oswego State. I believe the Bengals have a better case for a Top 25 ranking than Brooklyn College does. ???

Not sure you can look at just two teams out of maybe 50-70 being consider by voters in the Top 25 and say one team has a better case than another. I don't think I have ever looked at just two teams to make a decision... many teams are involved.

And I think you may not appreciate Brookyln's schedule with wins over Case Western Reserve (UAA school is a UAA school), New Jersey City, William Paterson, and Staten Island. They also have a tough loss to Lehman and an interesting result against Albertus Magnus. Common opponents off the top of my head (not looking at Buff's schedule) and it's 1-1 for Brooklyn and 2-0 for Buffalo State.

Considering Brooklyn was getting points to be ranked and Buffalo State wasn't getting any points... not sure you can just awesome (edit: should be "assume") a swap.

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
NYU continues to be the top rated team in the East as they gain 36 points over the last poll going from 279 to 315, yet they drop down several places to 14th place from the #12 spot. That doesn't usually happen.

Happens more often then you actually think or notice. Many don't look at the points - at least you did that. It's more about what's going on around NYU and the massive amount of movement in the three weeks since the last poll.

That all being said, I am not voting for NYU and I am not sure why anyone is drinking the Kool-Aid. They have basically played no one. They have a win over the one team on their schedule worth nothing (edit: should be "noting"): Arcadia. Otherwise, nothing. Too often voters give NYU love in the early, out-of-conference season and then NYU disappears once conference season starts. I would be shocked if NYU is even getting points by the time January is over (if not far sooner).

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
Lancaster Bible, out of the NEAC conference and in Pennslyvania, but in the East Region, continues to impress the voters as they are in 26th place with 52 points and sit just outside the Top 25 in the Others Receiving Votes. They are still undefeated at 8-0 and continue to receive support, despite their weak schedule and conference, based on that 94-66 pounding they laid on #17 Franklin and Marshall back on 11-21-15.

Another team, I'm not voting for... but here may be why they are getting love: there are clearly voters buying in with F&M (again, I am not). If they are... they have a loss against Lancaster Bible that is monstrous and unexplained... unless they also vote for LB. I'm not saying that's the case... just a theory... but it's one that is based on knowing what goes on in a Top 25 voter's mind. I am sure there are voters who are high on F&M and if they are, they need to vote for a team that manhandled them even if it was on 11/21. LB will get more and more love if they roll through their conference, stay undefeated, and that win over F&M starts looking bigger and bigger.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 05, 2016, 02:14:45 AM
Dave basically destroyed all the teams in my futures tournament picks.  ;D >:( :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 03:31:26 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 12:11:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 has been released and the SUNYAC gets 3 teams with some votes.

Oswego State jumps back into the Top 25. The Lakers, after making a brief appearance in Week 1 at # 25 and falling out in Week 2 are back with their highest placement this season as they check in at #20. They received 88 points and outpointed #21 Scranton by a single point.

Buffalo State on the basis of 2 big wins last week over the NJAC leaders New Jersey City, and the CUNYAC leaders Lehman, have moved into the Others Receiving Votes with 6 points and 51st position. Interesting that Brooklyn College, who lost to the Lehman team that Buffalo State defeated, at Lehman 82-73, gets 69 points and the  #24 spot while the Bengals only get 6 points. Stockton of the NJAC has more points than the Bengals do also, yet Buff State has less losses and is only 3 points from a perfect season. The Bengals also own a win over #20 Oswego State. I believe the Bengals have a better case for a Top 25 ranking than Brooklyn College does. ???

Not sure you can look at just two teams out of maybe 50-70 being consider by voters in the Top 25 and say one team has a better case than another. I don't think I have ever looked at just two teams to make a decision... many teams are involved.

And I think you may not appreciate Brookyln's schedule with wins over Case Western Reserve (UAA school is a UAA school), New Jersey City, William Paterson, and Staten Island. They also have a tough loss to Lehman and an interesting result against Albertus Magnus. Common opponents off the top of my head (not looking at Buff's schedule) and it's 1-1 for Brooklyn and 2-0 for Buffalo State.

Considering Brooklyn was getting points to be ranked and Buffalo State wasn't getting any points... not sure you can just awesome a swap.

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
NYU continues to be the top rated team in the East as they gain 36 points over the last poll going from 279 to 315, yet they drop down several places to 14th place from the #12 spot. That doesn't usually happen.

Happens more often then you actually think or notice. Many don't look at the points - at least you did that. It's more about what's going on around NYU and the massive amount of movement in the three weeks since the last poll.

That all being said, I am not voting for NYU and I am not sure why anyone is drinking the Kool-Aid. They have basically played no one. They have a win over the one team on their schedule worth nothing: Arcadia. Otherwise, nothing. Too often voters give NYU love in the early, out-of-conference season and then NYU disappears once conference season starts. I would be shocked if NYU is even getting points by the time January is over (if not far sooner).

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
Lancaster Bible, out of the NEAC conference and in Pennslyvania, but in the East Region, continues to impress the voters as they are in 26th place with 52 points and sit just outside the Top 25 in the Others Receiving Votes. They are still undefeated at 8-0 and continue to receive support, despite their weak schedule and conference, based on that 94-66 pounding they laid on #17 Franklin and Marshall back on 11-21-15.

Another team, I'm not voting for... but here may be why they are getting love: there are clearly voters buying in with F&M (again, I am not). If they are... they have a loss against Lancaster Bible that is monstrous and unexplained... unless they also vote for LB. I'm not saying that's the case... just a theory... but it's one that is based on knowing what goes on in a Top 25 voter's mind. I am sure there are voters who are high on F&M and if they are, they need to vote for a team that manhandled them even if it was on 11/21. LB will get more and more love if they roll through their conference, stay undefeated, and that win over F&M starts looking bigger and bigger.

Dave,

I know that gaining points and dropping in the polls isn't a rarity and it's dependant on the teams around you. I just think it's a little unusual when you gain 36 points and drop 2 places.  I agree with you on your decision to not vote for NYU. It seems like every year the same thing happens. The Violets play a bunch of teams with less than stellar records in a number of less than stellar conferences, build up a nice looking 11-1 (2013-14) or 9-1 (2012-13) or 9-0 (2011-12) record and then get roughed up when the UAA starts.

Also agree on your decision to pass on Lancaster Bible for the reasons you stated. I believe if they played in one of the 3 major East Region Conferences they would be hard pressed to make the conference playoffs in any of them.

I said it was interesting that Brooklyn College got as many points as they did and Buffalo State got so few. I know that Buffalo State had no prior mention in the Top 25 poll and therefore will have to slowly climb their way up that ladder. Frankly I was a little surprised they even got 6 votes. I think that they deserve more but I believe I know a bit more about this team than the average Top 25 voter does, so naturally I have a stronger opinion on that matter than you do, Dave. I was just trying to make a point that the Bengals are only 3 points from an undefeated season, and have some quality wins.

Brooklyn College has played a decent schedule, I agree. Not impressed with the Case Western Reserve win though. Case has won 6 games and 5 of those were teams with a losing record. The combined won-loss of those 5 losing teams is 11-43.

The SUNYAC has 7 decent teams this year and I don't think that Oswego State is the best of them. Those 7 teams will, as usual, beat up on each other and the long road trips that necessitate travel from one end of the state to the other will take their toll. I hope that 2 teams can emerge from the battles so that we may get a Pool C bid this year in addition to the automatic bid to our conference champion. I think the SUNYAC is the dominant league in the East Region. Our top 7 teams have gone 39-7 in their non-conference DIII games. I think that will stack up nicely against most any other conference.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 05:33:43 AM
Plattsburgh State 81  Trinity (Conn.) 73

The fact that the Cardinals won this game without their leading scorer and rebounder is kind of magical in and of itself. When you take 20 points and 12 rebounds out of play against a team that was ranked as high as 15th in the country earlier this season, you would be hard pressed to come away with a W.

The starting 5 that the Cardinals opened up this game with, due to some unforeseen circumstances, had a combined points per game average that totaled a whopping 22.3. No, that's not a typo...it was 22.3 ppg. They ended up scoring 34 points and 1 player, Ed Correa had 20 of those. But oh what a job the bench did, even if it was a loaded bench. 47 points came off the pine led by the X-Man, Xavier Thomas, with 12 points, none of which were bigger than the 2 he scored with the shot clock winding down and only 27 seconds left in the game. To set the stage for that shot....the Cardinals were clinging to a 2 point 75-73 lead and only 56  seconds remained in the game, after Trinity's Jaquann Starks had scored, was fouled and sank the free throw, to narrow a 5 point lead down to 2. With those 56 seconds left the Bantams didn't need to foul, they just needed a stop, and they almost got it when the Cardinals came down, worked the ball around, and had their shot blocked with 5 seconds on the shot clock. The ball went out of bounds but off a Trinity player so the Cards retained possession but had little time to get a quality shot up. The inbounds pass went to Thomas and after several dribbles he launched a mid range jumper from just behind the foul line. Nothing but net and the Cardinals were up 77-73 with 27 ticks left. The Bantams fired up a 3 point attempt with 17 seconds remaining which failed to go down and when Plattsburgh grabbed the rebound this one was all but over. Eli Bryant hit 4 straight free throws down the stretch to add to the final margin of victory.

I said Plattsburgh was going to win this game by a 75-72 final score and with 27 seconds left and the score 77-73 I was right in the ballpark. The 2 late meaningless fouls just gave the Cardinals 4 more points that they didn't really need.

Truth be told... if I had been near a computer when Coach Curle told me that Kyle Richardson was injured and wouldn't be suiting up tonight I would have changed my prediction in a heartbeat. But during warmups before the game started I looked at all the young talent on this team and thought that we could pull this off if these guys don't get into a deep hole in the opening 10 minutes. Players needed to step up and tonight was as good a time as any.

And step up they did right after the opening bell. Trinity raced out to a 6-0 lead on a layup, 2 free throws and a dunk all by their #1 big man Ed Ogundeko. Ed Correa countered for Plattsburgh with an old fashioned 3 point play to get the Cardinals on the board and 40 seconds later he buried the first of his 4 three pointers to tie the game up. It would be just one of 3 ties and 4 lead changes in the opening period. The Cardinals fell behind by 4 points and spent the next 6 minutes playing catch up and finally caught the Bantams on a Majestic Griggg layup with 13:25 to go. After Trinity missed a 3 pointer on their next possession Correa hit his 2nd three pointer that gave Plattsburgh its first lead of the night at 17-14. The Cardinals would keep that lead and expand it, to as much as 9 points at 33-24, with 6:25 to play, before the Bantams began a counter attack that was fueled by 5 straight points from Rick Naylor and another 3 pointer from Chris Turnbull.  The Cards lead was down to 1 point and Turnbull erased that with a jumper with 3 minutes left. The teams traded baskets and were tied at 39 when the Bantams got a layup from Shay Ajayi with 2 seconds left to grab a 41-39 edge at the half.

Several lead changes and a tie took place early after the half started but the Bantams took control with an Ogundeko layup, a triple by Naylor and a dunk by Ajayi, to open up a 52-46 lead with 15 minutes left in the game. Trinity continued to lead and increased it to their largest of the night at 60-52 with 9:39 showing on the clock. The Cardinals got within 2 at 66-64 with 4:34 left but Ogundeko scored inside again and the Cards turned it over as the X-man dribbled the ball off his foot. Trinity missed from long range and the Cards came down and went to the X-man who redeemed himself with an awesome move in the paint to pull the Cards within 2 points again. Trinity's Ajayi tried an inside move but Plattsburgh's Chris Middleton was there to swat it away. Trinity retained possession but misfired on another 3 point attempt. Thomas grabbed the rebound and fired it to Correa who didn't misfire on his 3 pointer and the Cards had the lead for the first time in over 13 minutes at 69-68. Ogundeko put the Bantams in front again seconds later with another power move inside, but the Card's Middleton came down and made a drive to the hoop and dropped one in from a nearly impossible angle. After the teams traded misses the Cards Ian Howard was fouled grabbing a defensive rebound and calmly made both free throws extending the lead to 73-70 for Plattsburgh. Seconds later Howard stole the ball and anther jumper by Correa made it a 75-70 lead setting the stage for the dramatic finish. Starks made his 3 point play to cut the lead to 2 and the X-man entered to nail his jumper with time running out on the shot clock, which proved to be the definitive play of the night.

Plattsburgh's Ed Correa led all scorers with 20 points (7x17 fg, 4x11 3's 2x4 ft), 3 assists and 3 rebounds.

Xavier Thomas had 12 points, (5x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 2x5 ft) 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist.

And then there were those freshman that I said had to step up.

Chris Middleton had 9 points, 3x4 fg, 1x1 3's, 2x2 ft), 3 blocks, and 2 rebounds in 17 minutes. The 9 points and 3 blocks are season high totals

Ian Howard had 8 points, (2x5 fg, 4x5ft), 5 rebounds and 2 steals in 18 minutes, a season high in points, rebounds and minutes on the court.

Jonathan Patron had 6 points, (3x7 fg,) and 3 rebounds in 10 minutes

Brandon Johnson had 6 points (1x2 fg, 4x5 ft) and 2 blocks in 15 minutes all of which were season highs.

Isaiah Johnson had 4 points (2x4 fg) and 4 rebounds in 11 minutes. The 4 rebounds were a season high.

So the freshman stepped up with a total of 33 points, 14 rebounds, 5 blocks, and 2 steals.

That doesn't include sophomore Eli Bryant a first year player for the Cards who scored 8 points with 4x4 shooting from the line. Eli also had 3 assists, 3 rebounds, and a steal in 18 minutes.   

The program is in good hands I think.

The Cardinals outshot the Bantams from the field by 43.9 % (29x66) to 36.6% (26x71)
They also were a little better from the line going 18x25 (72%) to 13x19 (68.4 %) for Trinity.
Trinity was better from long range as they hit 8x26 (30.8%) to Plattsburgh's 5x19 (26.3%).

Plattsburgh lost the battle of the boards by a 48-41 margin but only had 9 turnovers to 15 for Trinity. In the first half Trinity went 7x16 from long distance and the Plattsburgh coaching staff adressed that at halftime. The Bantams only went 1x10 from beyond the arc in the 2nd period. That was a major reason Plattsburgh won this game. The Bantams didn't handle the press well, that the Cardinals employed in the final 3 minutes of the game, either.

Trinity got a big game from Ed Ogundeko who had a double-double with 19 points (8x13 fg, 3x5 ft) and a game high 17 rebounds. Shay Ajayi had 13 points (5x9 fg, 3x5 ft) with 5 rebounds. Rick Naylor had 11 points and Joquann Starks had 10.

Plattsburgh State improves to 7-2 overall (2-0 conference) and will be back in action on Friday, January 8th at 7:30 PM  when they host Fredonia State. Buffalo State follows the Blue Devils into Memorial Hall at 4:00 PM on Saturday the 9th.
                               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2016, 08:18:09 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2016, 03:31:26 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 12:11:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 has been released and the SUNYAC gets 3 teams with some votes.

Oswego State jumps back into the Top 25. The Lakers, after making a brief appearance in Week 1 at # 25 and falling out in Week 2 are back with their highest placement this season as they check in at #20. They received 88 points and outpointed #21 Scranton by a single point.

Buffalo State on the basis of 2 big wins last week over the NJAC leaders New Jersey City, and the CUNYAC leaders Lehman, have moved into the Others Receiving Votes with 6 points and 51st position. Interesting that Brooklyn College, who lost to the Lehman team that Buffalo State defeated, at Lehman 82-73, gets 69 points and the  #24 spot while the Bengals only get 6 points. Stockton of the NJAC has more points than the Bengals do also, yet Buff State has less losses and is only 3 points from a perfect season. The Bengals also own a win over #20 Oswego State. I believe the Bengals have a better case for a Top 25 ranking than Brooklyn College does. ???

Not sure you can look at just two teams out of maybe 50-70 being consider by voters in the Top 25 and say one team has a better case than another. I don't think I have ever looked at just two teams to make a decision... many teams are involved.

And I think you may not appreciate Brookyln's schedule with wins over Case Western Reserve (UAA school is a UAA school), New Jersey City, William Paterson, and Staten Island. They also have a tough loss to Lehman and an interesting result against Albertus Magnus. Common opponents off the top of my head (not looking at Buff's schedule) and it's 1-1 for Brooklyn and 2-0 for Buffalo State.

Considering Brooklyn was getting points to be ranked and Buffalo State wasn't getting any points... not sure you can just awesome a swap.

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
NYU continues to be the top rated team in the East as they gain 36 points over the last poll going from 279 to 315, yet they drop down several places to 14th place from the #12 spot. That doesn't usually happen.

Happens more often then you actually think or notice. Many don't look at the points - at least you did that. It's more about what's going on around NYU and the massive amount of movement in the three weeks since the last poll.

That all being said, I am not voting for NYU and I am not sure why anyone is drinking the Kool-Aid. They have basically played no one. They have a win over the one team on their schedule worth nothing: Arcadia. Otherwise, nothing. Too often voters give NYU love in the early, out-of-conference season and then NYU disappears once conference season starts. I would be shocked if NYU is even getting points by the time January is over (if not far sooner).

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
Lancaster Bible, out of the NEAC conference and in Pennslyvania, but in the East Region, continues to impress the voters as they are in 26th place with 52 points and sit just outside the Top 25 in the Others Receiving Votes. They are still undefeated at 8-0 and continue to receive support, despite their weak schedule and conference, based on that 94-66 pounding they laid on #17 Franklin and Marshall back on 11-21-15.

Another team, I'm not voting for... but here may be why they are getting love: there are clearly voters buying in with F&M (again, I am not). If they are... they have a loss against Lancaster Bible that is monstrous and unexplained... unless they also vote for LB. I'm not saying that's the case... just a theory... but it's one that is based on knowing what goes on in a Top 25 voter's mind. I am sure there are voters who are high on F&M and if they are, they need to vote for a team that manhandled them even if it was on 11/21. LB will get more and more love if they roll through their conference, stay undefeated, and that win over F&M starts looking bigger and bigger.

Dave,

I know that gaining points and dropping in the polls isn't a rarity and it's dependant on the teams around you. I just think it's a little unusual when you gain 36 points and drop 2 places.  I agree with you on your decision to not vote for NYU. It seems like every year the same thing happens. The Violets play a bunch of teams with less than stellar records in a number of less than stellar conferences, build up a nice looking 11-1 (2013-14) or 9-1 (2012-13) or 9-0 (2011-12) record and then get roughed up when the UAA starts.

Also agree on your decision to pass on Lancaster Bible for the reasons you stated. I believe if they played in one of the 3 major East Region Conferences they would be hard pressed to make the conference playoffs in any of them.

I said it was interesting that Brooklyn College got as many points as they did and Buffalo State got so few. I know that Buffalo State had no prior mention in the Top 25 poll and therefore will have to slowly climb their way up that ladder. Frankly I was a little surprised they even got 6 votes. I think that they deserve more but I believe I know a bit more about this team than the average Top 25 voter does, so naturally I have a stronger opinion on that matter than you do, Dave. I was just trying to make a point that the Bengals are only 3 points from an undefeated season, and have some quality wins.

Brooklyn College has played a decent schedule, I agree. Not impressed with the Case Western Reserve win though. Case has won 6 games and 5 of those were teams with a losing record. The combined won-loss of those 5 losing teams is 11-43.

The SUNYAC has 7 decent teams this year and I don't think that Oswego State is the best of them. Those 7 teams will, as usual, beat up on each other and the long road trips that necessitate travel from one end of the state to the other will take their toll. I hope that 2 teams can emerge from the battles so that we may get a Pool C bid this year in addition to the automatic bid to our conference champion. I think the SUNYAC is the dominant league in the East Region. Our top 7 teams have gone 39-7 in their non-conference DIII games. I think that will stack up nicely against most any other conference.         

Plus k Magicman !  I'm gonna buy you a drink this weekend ( if I make it to plattsburgh).  If not you got 1 coming this summer!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 12:00:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2016, 03:31:26 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 12:11:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 has been released and the SUNYAC gets 3 teams with some votes.

Oswego State jumps back into the Top 25. The Lakers, after making a brief appearance in Week 1 at # 25 and falling out in Week 2 are back with their highest placement this season as they check in at #20. They received 88 points and outpointed #21 Scranton by a single point.

Buffalo State on the basis of 2 big wins last week over the NJAC leaders New Jersey City, and the CUNYAC leaders Lehman, have moved into the Others Receiving Votes with 6 points and 51st position. Interesting that Brooklyn College, who lost to the Lehman team that Buffalo State defeated, at Lehman 82-73, gets 69 points and the  #24 spot while the Bengals only get 6 points. Stockton of the NJAC has more points than the Bengals do also, yet Buff State has less losses and is only 3 points from a perfect season. The Bengals also own a win over #20 Oswego State. I believe the Bengals have a better case for a Top 25 ranking than Brooklyn College does. ???

Not sure you can look at just two teams out of maybe 50-70 being consider by voters in the Top 25 and say one team has a better case than another. I don't think I have ever looked at just two teams to make a decision... many teams are involved.

And I think you may not appreciate Brookyln's schedule with wins over Case Western Reserve (UAA school is a UAA school), New Jersey City, William Paterson, and Staten Island. They also have a tough loss to Lehman and an interesting result against Albertus Magnus. Common opponents off the top of my head (not looking at Buff's schedule) and it's 1-1 for Brooklyn and 2-0 for Buffalo State.

Considering Brooklyn was getting points to be ranked and Buffalo State wasn't getting any points... not sure you can just awesome a swap.

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
NYU continues to be the top rated team in the East as they gain 36 points over the last poll going from 279 to 315, yet they drop down several places to 14th place from the #12 spot. That doesn't usually happen.

Happens more often then you actually think or notice. Many don't look at the points - at least you did that. It's more about what's going on around NYU and the massive amount of movement in the three weeks since the last poll.

That all being said, I am not voting for NYU and I am not sure why anyone is drinking the Kool-Aid. They have basically played no one. They have a win over the one team on their schedule worth nothing: Arcadia. Otherwise, nothing. Too often voters give NYU love in the early, out-of-conference season and then NYU disappears once conference season starts. I would be shocked if NYU is even getting points by the time January is over (if not far sooner).

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
Lancaster Bible, out of the NEAC conference and in Pennslyvania, but in the East Region, continues to impress the voters as they are in 26th place with 52 points and sit just outside the Top 25 in the Others Receiving Votes. They are still undefeated at 8-0 and continue to receive support, despite their weak schedule and conference, based on that 94-66 pounding they laid on #17 Franklin and Marshall back on 11-21-15.

Another team, I'm not voting for... but here may be why they are getting love: there are clearly voters buying in with F&M (again, I am not). If they are... they have a loss against Lancaster Bible that is monstrous and unexplained... unless they also vote for LB. I'm not saying that's the case... just a theory... but it's one that is based on knowing what goes on in a Top 25 voter's mind. I am sure there are voters who are high on F&M and if they are, they need to vote for a team that manhandled them even if it was on 11/21. LB will get more and more love if they roll through their conference, stay undefeated, and that win over F&M starts looking bigger and bigger.

Dave,

I know that gaining points and dropping in the polls isn't a rarity and it's dependant on the teams around you. I just think it's a little unusual when you gain 36 points and drop 2 places.  I agree with you on your decision to not vote for NYU. It seems like every year the same thing happens. The Violets play a bunch of teams with less than stellar records in a number of less than stellar conferences, build up a nice looking 11-1 (2013-14) or 9-1 (2012-13) or 9-0 (2011-12) record and then get roughed up when the UAA starts.

Also agree on your decision to pass on Lancaster Bible for the reasons you stated. I believe if they played in one of the 3 major East Region Conferences they would be hard pressed to make the conference playoffs in any of them.

I said it was interesting that Brooklyn College got as many points as they did and Buffalo State got so few. I know that Buffalo State had no prior mention in the Top 25 poll and therefore will have to slowly climb their way up that ladder. Frankly I was a little surprised they even got 6 votes. I think that they deserve more but I believe I know a bit more about this team than the average Top 25 voter does, so naturally I have a stronger opinion on that matter than you do, Dave. I was just trying to make a point that the Bengals are only 3 points from an undefeated season, and have some quality wins.

Brooklyn College has played a decent schedule, I agree. Not impressed with the Case Western Reserve win though. Case has won 6 games and 5 of those were teams with a losing record. The combined won-loss of those 5 losing teams is 11-43.

The SUNYAC has 7 decent teams this year and I don't think that Oswego State is the best of them. Those 7 teams will, as usual, beat up on each other and the long road trips that necessitate travel from one end of the state to the other will take their toll. I hope that 2 teams can emerge from the battles so that we may get a Pool C bid this year in addition to the automatic bid to our conference champion. I think the SUNYAC is the dominant league in the East Region. Our top 7 teams have gone 39-7 in their non-conference DIII games. I think that will stack up nicely against most any other conference.         

First off, I had a couple of mad misprints in my first go-around. "Awesome" should have been "assume." "Nothing" should have been "noting." I went back and fixed those... they were poorly placed. Blame the sleep derivation.

I honestly think Lancaster Bible is a pretty good team and there are many who think they can finish the season undefeated. They are worth following. I just need to see them get into the meat of the conference before I buy in.

Buffalo State is probably worth getting more love, but man they are probably one of 70 teams on my radar. It is ridiculous this season how deep the pool is this season. Parity is unreal.

As for the points, that is what I was talking about. It isn't as rare as you think to gain points and fall spots. Usually that is a sign of the Top2 5 consolidating a bit with the voters (less teams getting votes or more agreement on the Top 10, 15, whatever amongst the voters. It isn't an often occurrence, but I think I see it happen a few times a year and this time of year is a popular time to see it.

The SUNYAC does look much stronger this year, but two or three teams can't afford to fall into the "beating up" of the conference if the conference and region hopes to get at-large bids and succeed in the NCAA tournament. Too much beating up in conference is a sign of a strong conference from top to bottom (argue whether good, bad, or middle of the road), but not a sign the conference should get extra bids.

Quote from: pg04 on January 05, 2016, 02:14:45 AM
Dave basically destroyed all the teams in my futures tournament picks.  ;D >:( :(

Sorry... not sorry? :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 02:02:21 PM
Massey Ratings updated again.

Plattsburgh State jumps from the 84th spot backup to the 51st position after beating Trinity last night. Trinity went from the low 50's up to #86. Basically Trinity and Plattsburgh swapped positions.

Oswego now #49
Plattsburgh #51     We went from 2nd to 5th without playing a game and now back to 2nd after winning 1 game
Cortland #63
Geneseo #64
Buffalo State #67  up a few spots since yesterday's big jump
Oneonta #85
Brockport #95

Other East Region teams of note:
Staten Island          #25   Not an East Region team but wanted to keep track of them due to win over Lehman by the Bengals
NYU                       #26
Brooklyn College     #35   Not East Region but tracking for same reason as above
Richard Stockton     #36    Ditto
Central Iowa           #41   Ditto  Team that Oneonta beat in Puerto Rico.
Lancaster Bible        #45   Overrated
Trinity (Conn)         #86   Plattsburgh victim
Ithaca                    #102
St John Fisher         #108
New Jersey City      #130  Buffalo St victim
Skidmore               #136
Hartwick                #164 Oneonta victim
Middlebury              #165  beat Plattsburgh may be improving
RPI                         #171
Rochester                #174
St Lawrence             #184
Hobart                     #196     Buffalo St. victim
Stevens Tech            #206
RIT                          #216
Vassar                      #231
Nazareth                   #234

Put these on here so I can see where they were if they make a move up the rankings. 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 02:31:25 PM
Four conference games on tap for Tuesday

I'll do the afternoon game first and come back for the night games later.

Cortland State  at    New Paltz State      4:00 PM

This game pits the top of the standings with the bottom of the standings. Two teams headed in opposite directions as Cortland comes into this game with an 8-1 record versus the Hawks with a 1-7 log. New Paltz could have gained a 2nd win the other night against Kean but the accident involving the New Paltz players caused that game to be cancelled. I don't know which three New Paltz players were involved in that accident but have heard that two of them have been cleared to play with one remaining in the hospital.

Cortland is fresh off a double digit win over Medaille on Saturday Jan 2nd, while the Hawks are bound to be a bit rusty having been off since a December 8th loss to Springfield.   

Even at full strength the Hawks are up against it here facing a solid Cortland team. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a 13 point road favorite. The Red Dragons should win by more than that, but as noted before, have a tendency to allow lesser teams to skate with them. Red Dragons are 7-3 against the Hawks over the past 5 years but one of those 3 Hawk wins came last year and it was the main reason that Cortland didn't make the SUNYAC tournament. Another Hawk win came against the vaunted 24-5 Cortland team of 2012-13, that made it to the Sweet 16. So nothing is a given.  Still I'll take Cortland in this one by an 84-65 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2016, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 12:00:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2016, 03:31:26 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 12:11:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 has been released and the SUNYAC gets 3 teams with some votes.

Oswego State jumps back into the Top 25. The Lakers, after making a brief appearance in Week 1 at # 25 and falling out in Week 2 are back with their highest placement this season as they check in at #20. They received 88 points and outpointed #21 Scranton by a single point.

Buffalo State on the basis of 2 big wins last week over the NJAC leaders New Jersey City, and the CUNYAC leaders Lehman, have moved into the Others Receiving Votes with 6 points and 51st position. Interesting that Brooklyn College, who lost to the Lehman team that Buffalo State defeated, at Lehman 82-73, gets 69 points and the  #24 spot while the Bengals only get 6 points. Stockton of the NJAC has more points than the Bengals do also, yet Buff State has less losses and is only 3 points from a perfect season. The Bengals also own a win over #20 Oswego State. I believe the Bengals have a better case for a Top 25 ranking than Brooklyn College does. ???

Not sure you can look at just two teams out of maybe 50-70 being consider by voters in the Top 25 and say one team has a better case than another. I don't think I have ever looked at just two teams to make a decision... many teams are involved.

And I think you may not appreciate Brookyln's schedule with wins over Case Western Reserve (UAA school is a UAA school), New Jersey City, William Paterson, and Staten Island. They also have a tough loss to Lehman and an interesting result against Albertus Magnus. Common opponents off the top of my head (not looking at Buff's schedule) and it's 1-1 for Brooklyn and 2-0 for Buffalo State.

Considering Brooklyn was getting points to be ranked and Buffalo State wasn't getting any points... not sure you can just awesome a swap.

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
NYU continues to be the top rated team in the East as they gain 36 points over the last poll going from 279 to 315, yet they drop down several places to 14th place from the #12 spot. That doesn't usually happen.

Happens more often then you actually think or notice. Many don't look at the points - at least you did that. It's more about what's going on around NYU and the massive amount of movement in the three weeks since the last poll.

That all being said, I am not voting for NYU and I am not sure why anyone is drinking the Kool-Aid. They have basically played no one. They have a win over the one team on their schedule worth nothing: Arcadia. Otherwise, nothing. Too often voters give NYU love in the early, out-of-conference season and then NYU disappears once conference season starts. I would be shocked if NYU is even getting points by the time January is over (if not far sooner).

Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
Lancaster Bible, out of the NEAC conference and in Pennslyvania, but in the East Region, continues to impress the voters as they are in 26th place with 52 points and sit just outside the Top 25 in the Others Receiving Votes. They are still undefeated at 8-0 and continue to receive support, despite their weak schedule and conference, based on that 94-66 pounding they laid on #17 Franklin and Marshall back on 11-21-15.

Another team, I'm not voting for... but here may be why they are getting love: there are clearly voters buying in with F&M (again, I am not). If they are... they have a loss against Lancaster Bible that is monstrous and unexplained... unless they also vote for LB. I'm not saying that's the case... just a theory... but it's one that is based on knowing what goes on in a Top 25 voter's mind. I am sure there are voters who are high on F&M and if they are, they need to vote for a team that manhandled them even if it was on 11/21. LB will get more and more love if they roll through their conference, stay undefeated, and that win over F&M starts looking bigger and bigger.

Dave,

I know that gaining points and dropping in the polls isn't a rarity and it's dependant on the teams around you. I just think it's a little unusual when you gain 36 points and drop 2 places.  I agree with you on your decision to not vote for NYU. It seems like every year the same thing happens. The Violets play a bunch of teams with less than stellar records in a number of less than stellar conferences, build up a nice looking 11-1 (2013-14) or 9-1 (2012-13) or 9-0 (2011-12) record and then get roughed up when the UAA starts.

Also agree on your decision to pass on Lancaster Bible for the reasons you stated. I believe if they played in one of the 3 major East Region Conferences they would be hard pressed to make the conference playoffs in any of them.

I said it was interesting that Brooklyn College got as many points as they did and Buffalo State got so few. I know that Buffalo State had no prior mention in the Top 25 poll and therefore will have to slowly climb their way up that ladder. Frankly I was a little surprised they even got 6 votes. I think that they deserve more but I believe I know a bit more about this team than the average Top 25 voter does, so naturally I have a stronger opinion on that matter than you do, Dave. I was just trying to make a point that the Bengals are only 3 points from an undefeated season, and have some quality wins.

Brooklyn College has played a decent schedule, I agree. Not impressed with the Case Western Reserve win though. Case has won 6 games and 5 of those were teams with a losing record. The combined won-loss of those 5 losing teams is 11-43.

The SUNYAC has 7 decent teams this year and I don't think that Oswego State is the best of them. Those 7 teams will, as usual, beat up on each other and the long road trips that necessitate travel from one end of the state to the other will take their toll. I hope that 2 teams can emerge from the battles so that we may get a Pool C bid this year in addition to the automatic bid to our conference champion. I think the SUNYAC is the dominant league in the East Region. Our top 7 teams have gone 39-7 in their non-conference DIII games. I think that will stack up nicely against most any other conference.         

First off, I had a couple of mad misprints in my first go-around. "Awesome" should have been "assume." "Nothing" should have been "noting." I went back and fixed those... they were poorly placed. Blame the sleep derivation.

I honestly think Lancaster Bible is a pretty good team and there are many who think they can finish the season undefeated. They are worth following. I just need to see them get into the meat of the conference before I buy in.

Buffalo State is probably worth getting more love, but man they are probably one of 70 teams on my radar. It is ridiculous this season how deep the pool is this season. Parity is unreal.

As for the points, that is what I was talking about. It isn't as rare as you think to gain points and fall spots. Usually that is a sign of the Top2 5 consolidating a bit with the voters (less teams getting votes or more agreement on the Top 10, 15, whatever amongst the voters. It isn't an often occurrence, but I think I see it happen a few times a year and this time of year is a popular time to see it.

The SUNYAC does look much stronger this year, but two or three teams can't afford to fall into the "beating up" of the conference if the conference and region hopes to get at-large bids and succeed in the NCAA tournament. Too much beating up in conference is a sign of a strong conference from top to bottom (argue whether good, bad, or middle of the road), but not a sign the conference should get extra bids.

Quote from: pg04 on January 05, 2016, 02:14:45 AM
Dave basically destroyed all the teams in my futures tournament picks.  ;D >:( :(

Sorry... not sorry? :)

Did I ever say how much I like Dave??? ;)  plus k!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2016, 02:49:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2016, 02:31:25 PM
Four conference games on tap for Tuesday

I'll do the afternoon game first and come back for the night games later.

Cortland State  at    New Paltz State      4:00 PM

This game pits the top of the standings with the bottom of the standings. Two teams headed in opposite directions as Cortland comes into this game with an 8-1 record versus the Hawks with a 1-7 log. New Paltz could have gained a 2nd win the other night against Kean but the accident involving the New Paltz players caused that game to be cancelled. I don't know which three New Paltz players were involved in that accident but have heard that two of them have been cleared to play with one remaining in the hospital.

Cortland is fresh off a double digit win over Medaille on Saturday Jan 2nd, while the Hawks are bound to be a bit rusty having been off since a December 8th loss to Springfield.   

Even at full strength the Hawks are up against it here facing a solid Cortland team. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a 13 point road favorite. The Red Dragons should win by more than that, but as noted before, have a tendency to allow lesser teams to skate with them. Red Dragons are 7-3 against the Hawks over the past 5 years but one of those 3 Hawk wins came last year and it was the main reason that Cortland didn't make the SUNYAC tournament. Another Hawk win came against the vaunted 24-5 Cortland team of 2012-13, that made it to the Sweet 16. So nothing is a given.  Still I'll take Cortland in this one by an 84-65 final score.     

Interesting.... women play at 2 and men at 4....on a weekday!  That schedule is usually reserved for Saturdays. Hey whatever New Paltz wants to do is ok with me!  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 05, 2016, 03:36:17 PM
4 Games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC.

I like Cortland over New Paltz.

Geneseo over Fredonia.

The next 2 games should be fun to watch and very tough to pick

Buffalo State coming off 2 big wins in the Coaches for Cancer tournament at Lehman College a few weeks ago visits Brockport tonight in a match up that will be fantastic.
Brockport at home is very tough, but I see Buffalo State winning this one in a barn burner 96-92

The next game is Oswego which is ranked #20 visiting the Red Dragons of Oneonta. This game like all the other games these 2 teams have played recently will be a very close contest. The only problem I see is Oswego has been off for a few weeks. That could be a very good thing or a very bad thing.
Oneonta coming off a big win against Central in Puerto Rico and than laying an Egg against Gustavus Adolphus the next day will be looking to regain their swagger back tonight.
I have Oneonta winning this one 82-78.

Enjoy the games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 03:56:03 PM
Bengalsrule... I have a surprise for you soon... but you will have to wait. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2016, 04:51:17 PM
Cortland on top at New Paltz 34-25 at the half. RDragons up 10-9 at 13 minute mark. JP Reagan cans two free throws, G. Carter and B. Estarfaa 3-pointers for 18-9 lead. A. McGuire layup off Carter feed makes it 30-13 at 6:08. At 3:48 it's 34-15. Hawks claw back. RJ Rosa follows a trey with a steal and layup to narrow the gap to 10. NP free throw concludes opening period scoring. Reagan in 10 minutes of work nets 11 pts(4x6fg, 1x1 3). Estarfaa with 6 points. Rosa with 11 pts (4x7fg, 3x4 3s) for hosts

Estarfaa lighting up NP in the second half. Scores 19 points in the first 9 minutes of the period to pace Corts to 63-36 lead. Estarfaa 8x11 from beyond the arc ........now with 24 points
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2016, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2016, 03:56:03 PM
Bengalsrule... I have a surprise for you soon... but you will have to wait. LOL

Omg.  Now my mind is racing !!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 05, 2016, 05:47:48 PM


Cortland all over New Paltz  81-50 with 46 point second half splurge paced by  ........
B. Estarfaa lights up NP in the second half. Scores 19 points in the first 9 minutes of the period to pace Corts to 63-36 lead. Estarfaa 8x11 from beyond the arc ........now with 24 points -- his finishing totals in 27 minutes of action.

Sixteen RDragons take the court, most score and see significant minutes at NP. JP Reagan with 11 points(4x7fg) in 14 minutes. Nice to see Justin Cooper back on the floor. Inserted in the second half and strikes for eight points(3x6fg). Impact newcomer this season who had missed previous two games. Averages nearly 10 points and six boards.

R. Rosa's 18 points(7x13fg, 4x7 3s) in 34 minutes lead the Hawks. New Paltz 1-8 and 0-3 in conference. Cortland 9-1, 3-0 and idle next next Tuesday vs. Geneseo
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 07:24:56 PM
Three more games on Tuesday January 5th

Fredonia State  at  Geneseo State     7:30 PM

The Knights are coming off a month long layoff and haven't played since their last game in the Wendy's Classic back on December 5th. Fredonia hasn't played since they were thumped by Cortland on that same date. This will also be the first SUNYAC game that the Knights have played this season.

Like the earlier game today both these teams are a world apart. The Knights are 3 points from being undefeated with a 6-1 record, while Fredonia's only bright spot was a win over Alfred. I guess you could consider their close call against Oswego a bright spot as well. Geneseo is undefeated against Division III opponents and in the eyes of the NCAA that loss on their record to Roberts Wesleyan doesn't even exist.

The oddsmakers have made the host Blue Knights a big 19 point favorite in this one and recent history would seem to bear this out as Geneseo is 9-1 in the past 10 games against the Blue Devils. It's possible that Fredonia rises to the challenge and plays the rusty Knights, as tough as they did the Lakers, but I don't think that will happen. This Geneseo team is too good to let a little rust stop them tonight. This game of Blue on Blue will go to the Knights by a final score of 88-66.
       
   
Oswego State  at  Oneonta State      7:30 PM

The Lakers are the team covered in iron oxide heading into this matchup. They have been idle since their scrimmage game against Cazenovia back on December 11th. These Red Dragons managed to play a meaningful game against solid competition before daydreaming about the beach the next day. Their win over Central was impressive. Their loss to Gustavus Adolphus was depressive.

Recent history favors the Lakers, especially last year when Oswego won three hard fought games against Oneonta. The Lakers lead this series 8-3 over the past 5 years. Oswego is still smarting from the loss to the Bengals back on December 5th and another loss here would put them in a hole, against as many as 4 other teams, after this upcoming weekend.

Oneonta needs to prove they belong in the high rent district. For too long they have limped into the playoffs in 5th or 6th place or not at all. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragon a slim 2 point home favorite. I don't know if I would favor them or not. I think that last year's Oneonta team with Zach Mager and Frankie Kelley and the current cast of veterans may have been better than this year's team. And that team couldn't get by the Lakers. I'm not sure this team can. I've been riding the Red Dragons most of the year but I'm thinking they come out on the short end tonight...by a 72-68 final score.

Buffalo State  at   Brockport State      7:30 PM

The Bengals have been on a roll lately and tonight they travel into the house of their nemesis, a team that has owned them over the past 4 years. Brockport has won 9 of the past 10 games and that's about as one sided as any series in the SUNYAC over a 10 game span. The good news for the Bengals is that lone win came last year in Brockport.

Buff State is coming off a 2 game holiday tournament in which they took out the leaders of the NJAC conference and the leader of the CUNYAC conference. Brockport meanwhile struggled to put away a Bridgeport State team that took them to 3 overtime periods and then got crushed by John Carroll.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a very slim 1 point home favorite. That's like saying they are the underdogs. I've been back and forth on this one all day long. I've seen both teams play several games and I have to say at this juncture of the season I'm a little more impressed with the Bengals than I am with the Golden Eagles. But that's like saying pick your poison. I had to make a selection in my National Pick 'Em League since this was the final game of the week that ended tonight. And yes it was I who made out this week's schedule for that league. ;D  I went with the Bengals in the League and I'm going with the Bengals here. Buffalo State takes this one by an 82-80 final score.           

 
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 08:06:14 PM
Oneonta just putting a lickin on Oswego as they head into the break up 45-18. That sounds like a turnaround of the Gustavus game when the Red Dragons only had 15 or so at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 08:15:08 PM
Fredonia leads Geneseo 43-41 at the half.

Ian Helps with 11points and 8 rebounds, Dante Williams with 9 points and Brandon Hodge with 7.

John Decker leads Geneseo with 14 points. Justin Ringen has 11 and Kevin Crockett has 8. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 08:21:24 PM
Brockport leads Buffalo State 36-29 at the break.

Pat Modzelewski leads the Golden Eagles with 11 points and 4 rebounds, as he goes 3x4 from long distance.
Clifton Lyerly has 8 points.

Lovell Smith has 8 points for the Bengals. Redell freeman has 6 points. Mike Henry has 5 points and 7 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 08:59:12 PM
Oneonta whips Oswego  by a 90-52 final score to end a year of frustration against the Lakers. If this had been a fight they'd a stopped it in the 2nd round. Big win by the Red Dragons. They have moved into Park Place and will be a force to be reckoned with. Real glad my Cardinals have already made the trip to Dewar Arena and they came away with a win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 05, 2016, 09:02:17 PM
It would be nice if Brockport learned how to shoot free throws. That's all I really have to say in the late going.  ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:14:26 PM
Barnburners all over the place right now. Geneseo down 88-85 against Fredonia with just a few seconds left.

Buff State leads by a 74-69 lead with 47 seconds to play

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:15:34 PM
It's now a foul shooting contest in Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:16:49 PM
Buff State just missed a pair that could come back and bite them in the A$$.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:18:03 PM
89-86 Fredonia with 11 seconds left. Taking forever in Geneseo for the final 30 seconds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
Final in Geneseo as Fredonia pulls off the shocker beating the Blue Knights 89-86.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:25:54 PM
Buffalo State trailed the entire game until they finally got their first lead with 3:32 to go. They win going away by a final score of 81-73 and exorcise some demons that have haunted them for the past 4 years. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:26:57 PM
Sorry pg04 that was a tough one. Especially after holding the lead for so long.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2016, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:15:34 PM
It's now a foul shooting contest in Brockport.

Fortunately Jordan Glover came through at the line. 3rd tough 1 in a row. Gonna have to refill my blood pressure medicine Tommorrow ! :o. I'll let the magic 1 do the honors. I'm whipped! :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 05, 2016, 11:08:37 PM
Bport has to learn how to finish games. The foul line killed them again as it did with Bridgewater St(reason for 3 OT game). Those are the things that win and lose games as we all know. Still love my Eagles but to step to that next level the foul shots got to be made. Congrats to the Bengals--Don't count my Eagles out. Hopefully learned a good lesson tonight. Coach Dunne and the boys will be ready for the next one. Good luck!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 12:41:20 AM
I can't wait for the next D3hoops "Hoopsville" show! ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 12:43:00 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 05, 2016, 11:08:37 PM
Bport has to learn how to finish games. The foul line killed them again as it did with Bridgewater St(reason for 3 OT game). Those are the things that win and lose games as we all know. Still love my Eagles but to step to that next level the foul shots got to be made. Congrats to the Bengals--Don't count my Eagles out. Hopefully learned a good lesson tonight. Coach Dunne and the boys will be ready for the next one. Good luck!

Definitly a playoff team. They miss Aaron White but Brockport is deep and hungry. Dunn always gets them better as the season goes on!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 06, 2016, 12:46:20 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:26:57 PM
Sorry pg04 that was a tough one. Especially after holding the lead for so long.

That last 7 or so minutes of the game got me quite frustrated! As scooter said there is much work to be done at the foul line. There were also a couple times they were a little too frantic in taking shots or so it seemed. They can't slouch too long about it of course, as full weekend to come.

The Bengals did well to slowly chip away and keep the lead once they got it. Hopefully they keep on chugging.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 02:11:34 AM
Quote from: pg04 on January 06, 2016, 12:46:20 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2016, 09:26:57 PM
Sorry pg04 that was a tough one. Especially after holding the lead for so long.

That last 7 or so minutes of the game got me quite frustrated! As scooter said there is much work to be done at the foul line. There were also a couple times they were a little too frantic in taking shots or so it seemed. They can't slouch too long about it of course, as full weekend to come.

The Bengals did well to slowly chip away and keep the lead once they got it. Hopefully they keep on chugging.

I hope they "slouch" for 10 more days. The Golden Eagles come to Buffalo State next weekend (15th).  I'm all 4 the "chugging" along pg04!!  :) The first day of Yac 2016 should scare the begeezers out of everybody.  Oneonta , Fredonia have both served notice that their best is yet to come!  Playing in a great conference has its drawbacks. No easy outs. Anything less than 3 bids for the Yac will be disappointing!!   

My Bengals head to Potsdam Friday. If ever there was a team that scares me, Potsdam which is probably the youngest team in the Yac, is that team. The Bears have nothing to lose and everything to play for. Those 9 freshman don't have any reason to fear anyone! Those bears are gonna be hungry. I guess that's what makes the Sunyac special!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2016, 04:24:49 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 02:11:34 AM
My Bengals head to Potsdam Friday. If ever there was a team that scares me, Potsdam which is probably the youngest team in the Yac, is that team. The Bears have nothing to lose and everything to play for. Those 9 freshman don't have any reason to fear anyone! Those bears are gonna be hungry. I guess that's what makes the Sunyac special!

That's right, keep worrying about those Bears, they are the ones that can cuff you silly and beat the living tar right out of you. Don't worry about those Redbirds, pay no attention to them as they're as harmless as a bunch of field mice. Focus on those Bears, cause they will be hungry and they can gobble you right up. So don't even give those Cardinals a second thought...just ignore them completely. Fuggedaboutem. Pretend they're a figment of your imagination. They are extinct. Just a memory. Keep walking...nothing here to get excited about. They are just one of magicman's illusions.

The greatest trick the magicman ever pulled was convincing the SUNYAC that the Cardinals didn't exist...And just like that...poof...they're gone. :o   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2016, 04:36:37 AM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week is Hamed Shamseldin from Brockport State. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC page:

Hamed Shamseldin, Brockport State
Lawrence, N.Y. / Lawrence

Hamed Shamseldin averaged 24 points, shot 46.6 percent (14-30) from the field, and dished out two assists per contest in a week that saw the Golden Eagles finish 1-1. In a triple overtime win against Bridgewater State University on Dec. 28, Shamseldin scored a career high 31 points, shooting 10-of-20 from the field, 3-of-4 from beyond the arc, and a perfect 8-of-8 from the charity stripe. The sophomore also picked up four rebounds, two assists and one block in the contest. Shamseldin netted 17 points the following day, in a tough loss to No. 10 ranked John Carroll University. The Lawrence, N.Y. native also added two assists and one rebounds in the loss.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2016, 07:14:15 AM
And guess which team from the YAC is now Mr. Massey's  favorite team. I want to know what Bengalsrule promised him in that email he sent him the other day. First Mr. Massey jumps the Bengals from  #112 to #71. Then he bumps them up further to #67. Now he puts them all the way up into his Top 50 by giving them the #47 spot.

He drops my Cardinals 4 spots to #55 and says he moved them up +4 places. He doesn't know his pluses from his minuses. Oswego's meltdown hasn't shown up yet but when that does, they won't in the #49 spot where he has them right now. Cortland up a few to #60. Geneseo at #61 but that ship will be sinking when the Fredonia result hits the board. Oneonta at #84 and rising soon while Brockport falls even further to #116.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 09:29:11 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 06, 2016, 04:24:49 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 02:11:34 AM
My Bengals head to Potsdam Friday. If ever there was a team that scares me, Potsdam which is probably the youngest team in the Yac, is that team. The Bears have nothing to lose and everything to play for. Those 9 freshman don't have any reason to fear anyone! Those bears are gonna be hungry. I guess that's what makes the Sunyac special!

That's right, keep worrying about those Bears, they are the ones that can cuff you silly and beat the living tar right out of you. Don't worry about those Redbirds, pay no attention to them as they're as harmless as a bunch of field mice. Focus on those Bears, cause they will be hungry and they can gobble you right up. So don't even give those Cardinals a second thought...just ignore them completely. Fuggedaboutem. Pretend they're a figment of your imagination. They are extinct. Just a memory. Keep walking...nothing here to get excited about. They are just one of magicman's illusions.

The greatest trick the magicman ever pulled was convincing the SUNYAC that the Cardinals didn't exist...And just like that...poof...they're gone. :o   

  At Buff State they have 1 motto. "THE NEXT GAME IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MATTERS!"  No disrespect to Cards , Red Dragons, Blue Devils etc.  Bengals never look past an opponent. That's how you get in trouble (IMHO)!  Heck there are some "pundits" who feel that Geneseo had their eyes set on their game vs Oneonta this Friday even before Fredonia stepped on the court! Who knows about Oswego?  Thier next game is against fellow green and gold Brockport! 
  So be sure that coach Ansari respects every team in the conference.  Heck he respects every team Buff State plays but he never talks about any team/game other than the next 1 up. Don't you try starting any cr-p >:( with Richardson and company by saying anything else other than what I've said here! :-X. I know where you live at ( or at least where you work at  :D.)

Go BENGALS!

Ps. Does anyone know when the next "Hoopsville" show is gonna be??  I sensing that there is gonna be a seriously good coach on the show!  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 06, 2016, 07:14:15 AM
And guess which team from the YAC is now Mr. Massey's  favorite team. I want to know what Bengalsrule promised him in that email he sent him the other day. First Mr. Massey jumps the Bengals from  #112 to #71. Then he bumps them up further to #67. Now he puts them all the way up into his Top 50 by giving them the #47 spot.

He drops my Cardinals 4 spots to #55 and says he moved them up +4 places. He doesn't know his pluses from his minuses. Oswego's meltdown hasn't shown up yet but when that does, they won't in the #49 spot where he has them right now. Cortland up a few to #60. Geneseo at #61 but that ship will be sinking when the Fredonia result hits the board. Oneonta at #84 and rising soon while Brockport falls even further to #116.

Did mr Massey tell you what I "promised" him?  Damn the dude can't keep a secret!! :o. I guess I don't have to ship him season tickets to the Knicks game since he revealed our agreement. ( enter "sarcastic" emoticon here). 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2016, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 06, 2016, 04:36:37 AM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week is Hamed Shamseldin from Brockport State. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC page:

Hamed Shamseldin, Brockport State
Lawrence, N.Y. / Lawrence

Hamed Shamseldin averaged 24 points, shot 46.6 percent (14-30) from the field, and dished out two assists per contest in a week that saw the Golden Eagles finish 1-1. In a triple overtime win against Bridgewater State University on Dec. 28, Shamseldin scored a career high 31 points, shooting 10-of-20 from the field, 3-of-4 from beyond the arc, and a perfect 8-of-8 from the charity stripe. The sophomore also picked up four rebounds, two assists and one block in the contest. Shamseldin netted 17 points the following day, in a tough loss to No. 10 ranked John Carroll University. The Lawrence, N.Y. native also added two assists and one rebounds in the loss.

Having met this kid last night I was impressed with his demeanor. He doesn't say much on the court or off. He appears to be a very quiet young man. He definitely has the respect of his teammates and coach Dunn. Looks like he's Brockports best chance at replacing Aaron White. B Port always seems to have that 1 guard who can take over a game ( i.e. Jon Ivy, who was in attendance last night, Brandon Carruthers and others).  Dunn always finds 1. Looks like this sophomore will be  the 1 for the next 3 years! Kudos!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2016, 05:24:08 AM
January 5th   Buffalo State 81 Brockport State 73

Quite an exciting game the other night in Brockport. As a fan it was a great game to watch. Both teams played hard and either team could have walked of the floor with a W. I had the Bengals  winning this one in a barnburner by an 82-80 score. It was a barnburner and I only missed Buff State's score by a single point. If Port had made their free throws I coulda been closer on their end as well.

The Bengals trailed in this game from the opening tip as Brockport jumped out to a quick 10-2 lead thanks to a pair of long range bombs by Pat Modzelewski. The Bengals would close to within a point at 13-12 on a Lovell Smith jumper and a pair of Redell Freeman free throws with 10:23 left in the half. That would set the pattern for this game over the next 27 minutes of play as the Golden Eagles would maintain a lead of up to 9 points. The Bengals would respond every time and close to within a single possession but could never get over the hump and claim a lead. Toward the end of the half Buffalo State went from down 8, to down 4, to down 9 at 36-27 with less then a minute to play. Freeman scored on a drive to the hoop with 3 seconds left to cut the lead to 7 at the half, 36-29 in favor of the Golden Eagles.

The 2nd half didn't see much change. The Bengals got a pair of fee throws from Smith to narrow the lead once more, but back to back layups by Olusola Adeniran and Modzelewski matched Brockport's largest lead of the game at 9 points. Back came the Bengals and Nico McLean's 2 free throws with 16:17 on the clock cut it down to a single possession at 42-39.

Brockport failed to pull away and the Bengals couldn't gain a lead. This continued to play out over the next 10 minutes when the Bengals got a boost from Mike Henry. Down 65-61, Henry scored on a layup to cut it to 2 and after the Golden Eagles missed a layup on their end, Henry came down and scored inside once again to create the first tie score of the game at 65 apiece with 4:34 on the clock. Brockport missed a jumper but Levi Pace grabbed the offensive rebound and scored to give the Eagles the lead. Back came Henry 12 seconds later  to score inside again and tie it up. Henry followed that up with a steal and was fouled going to the basket. he made the first free throw and the Bengals had their first lead of the evening at 68-67 and their was 3:34 left to play.

Now each possession was critical and both teams missed opportunities on their 2 trips down the floor. Each team missed a shot and had a turnover. Then Pace scored to put Brockport back in front by a point, but once more Mike Henry, rose to the occasion and hit a jumper to give the Bengals the lead for the 2nd time. It would be a lead they would hold onto until the final buzzer. It was the 9th straight point that Henry had scored for the Bengals as he brought them from a 4 point deficit to the only 2 leads they had all night.

Brockport needing to keep pace with Buff State missed a layup and the Bengals big man Jordan Chateau scored inside (chateau means house and this guy is as big as a house) to increase the lead to 3 points with 1:18 left. Brockport needed to score and when they came up empty on a 3 point attempt, that set the stage for Jordan Glover to put his free throw shooting prowess on display. Five times Brockport put him on the line and Jordan responded by canning 9 of 10. This one was in the books and Buffalo State made a statement that maybe, just maybe, the road to the SUNYAC crown may go through the Queen City this year. This coming weekend will prove interesting.

Mike Henry was the MVP of this game as his double-double of 20 points and 10 rebounds were game highs in both categories. His 9 straight points in crunch time were the most pivotal points in the game as well. He also had 3 assist and 3 steals.

Lovell Smith with 14 points and 5 rebounds along with Jordan Glover who also had 14 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals, also came up big for the Bengals. Jordan Chateau had 9 points and 5 rebounds. Redell Freeman had 8 points and was perfect shooting the rock, as he was 3x3 from the field, and 2x2 from the line. Nico McLean didn't score his usual amount but has 4 assists, 2 steal and 2 rebounds to go with his 4 points.

Statistically this game was fairly even as both teams had similar shooting percentages from the field and from long distance. The Bengal had a sizable edge from the line making 26 of 35 free throws (74.3%) to 13x24 for Brockport (54.2%). The 10 free throws that Jordan Glover had in the final 52 seconds, when Brockport was forced to foul, account for the discrepancy in numbers. The 5 missed free throws that Brockport had from the 8 minute mark to the point that Buffalo State tied the game up were one of the biggest factors that enabled the Bengals to come away with the win here.

Both teams committed a large number of turnovers...19 for the Bengals and 18 for the Golden Eagles, typical of the styles of defense that both teams play. Brockport had a slight edge on the boards of 40 to 38.

Brockport had 3 players in double figures with Clifton Lylerly leading the way in both points and rebounds. He had 19 points and just missed his double-double with 9 rebounds.  Patrick Modzelewski had 13 points and 7 rebounds, while Levi Pace came off the bench with 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 steals. Matthew Smith had 7 points, 8 assists and 3 rebounds. Hamed Shamseldin scored 9 points, 2 assists and 2 steals, while    Devonn Gavin had 8 points and 2 rebounds off the bench.

Brockport now 5-3 (0-1) with a 2 game losing streak will look to get back on track when they host New Paltz and Oneonta this coming weekend.

Buffalo State improves to 8-2 overall (2-1) and will now make the long busride to the top of the state to visit the North Country. They will meet Potsdam on Friday night and then take on Plattsburgh on Saturday afternoon in the featured SUNYAC game of the Day. There will be a live video feed by one of the top companies out there and live stats as well. Here are links to receive the broadcast or get the live stats:
    http://www.gocardinalsports.com/index.aspx?tab=basketball&path=mbball

If you just want the webcast, here is a link to Northeast Sports Network, the company that does the webcast:
          http://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2016, 07:24:48 AM
January 5th  Oneonta State 90  Oswego State 52

This one wasn't a game. It was too one side to be called that. The Lakers got off the bus and must have ran into  whatever germ pool the Red Dragons brought back with them from Puerto Rico. And it had to be germs cause there's no island girls in Oneonta. How else do you account for the fact that Oneonta, coming off one of the worst halves of basketball that school has played in recent memory, (make that any memory, not just recent) when they scored a grand total of 15 points in their last game against Gustavus Adolphus, now takes the floor against the 20th ranked school in Division III, Oswego State, and the Lakers score, what has to be their worst point total in a half of only 18 points. That's too much of a coincidence. Something eerie and Twilight Zone-ish is in play here. Maybe Stephen King was in attendance. I had the Lakers winning this one by a 72-68 final. That wasn't even close.

This game was over with 11 minutes left in the first half. That was right after the Red Dragon's Ian Shupp buried a 3 pointer and then hit a jumper on Oneonta's next possession. I think something about a player, who was wearing a Laker uniform last year, and now was dressed in Oneonta Red this year, scoring 5 straight points, right in the middle of an Oneonta 20-2 run, was disconcerting to the players in green and gold. It was like hey...he's our guy, no wait...he's their guy. What to heck is going on here. ???

The Red Dragons lead was 30-10 and another 15-8 outburst had them up by a 45-18 score at the break. I don't think anyone's coming back from that lead against Oneonta on their home court. But just in case a 27 point lead wasn't enough, the Red Dragons belched some more fire and smoke to open up the half with an 8-0 run and just like that it was a 35 point lead at 53-18. With 18:39 seconds left in the half the victory cigar was lit up.

The final margin of victory was 38 points and that is the worst spanking that I can ever remember the Lakers receiving. You would have to go back to 1979 through 1981 seasons to find losses of that magnitude. I'm sure the Oswego players have a short memory though and this one will be forgotten in due time. They have too much talent to dwell on this one and will come out firing on all cylinders in their next outing. The problem is their next outing is on the road against Brockport and after the Golden Eagles let one slip away to Buff State they will be out for blood.

Mikey McElroy led the way for Oneonta and was the game's leading scorer with 16 points along with 6 rebounds and a pair of assists. Jackson Zuvic had 15 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds. Lawrence Coleman had 12 points and 8 rebounds.

Jack Dignan was the rebounding leader with 10 boards and managed a double-double with 10 points as well. He just missed a triple-double by dishing out 9 assists. He was almost perfect with his shotmaking as he was 3x3 from the field, 1x1 from 3 point land, and 3x4 from the line. He also had 2 steals and a block. Pretty solid night for Mr. D.

Seth Thomsen rounded out the starting 5 with 6 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds. Ian Shupp's 8 points were the most off the bench, which did result in 31 points for Oneonta.

Oneonta shot 58.9% from the field (33x56 and 50% from long range (10x20). They were 66.6% from the line (14x21).  The Lakers had their troubles, shooting only 29.6% from the field (16x54), 20% from long distance (3x15) and 60.7% (17x28) from the line.

Oneonta also won the battle off the glass by a 40 to 29 margin. Both teams took decent care of the ball as the Lakers committed only 7 turnovers and Oneonta had 8.

Oswego's only player in double figures was Walter Sampson with 10 points. Brain Sortino had 9, while Dustin Pond and Keith Tyson both had 8.

Oswego falls to 8-2  (1-2) an will be off until they meet Brockport on January 12th  at 7:30.

Oneonta improves to 7-3 (2-1) and will face two huge games this weekend when they head west to take on Geneseo on Friday night at 7:30 PM and then Brockport on Saturday at 4 PM.   

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 07, 2016, 08:06:38 AM
It appears to me the SUNYAC's is going to be alot closer race than first expected. From the posts I read earlier it looked like a 3 or 4 team horse race but with the first games of the new year some surprises(or are they?).  I wouldn't say there are any teams," that are a night off." It appears the conference is competitive from top to bottom. Agreed???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2016, 09:11:13 AM
January 5th  Fredonia State 89  Geneseo State 86

If Geneseo misses out as the top seed in the SUNYAC tournament, this game will probably be the reason why. This was a shocker from start to finish and I'm still left asking a a lot of questions as to how this happened. One thing is for certain...the old adage about the SUNYAC conference that there is no easy games and anybody can beat you was sure put on display with this game on Tuesday. I had this game as an 88-66 Geneseo win but then so didn't everyone who looked at this matchup. I was only 1 point off the winner's total with my 88 and I had the 6 in the loser's total. That has to be worth something. My crystal ball was cloudy and I had trouble reading through the mistiness, but it was apparently trying to give me a hint.

Fredonia was the team that came out of the gate in a hurry and 3 and a half minutes into the game they had a 16-5 double digit lead. The Geneseo coaching staff had already used two 30 second time outs and the 2nd one of those did help because 4 minutes later the Knights had a 19-18 lead when Justin Ringen scored inside.
6 ties and 5 lead changes would take place from that point until the end of the half and when the buzzer sounded it was the Blue Devils that were on top by a 43-41 margin on a 3 pointer by Richard Delacruz.

It was the Blue Knights, however, that seized the momentum as the 2nd half got under way. Ringen opened with another layup and Kevin Crockett buried a before and after pair of 3 pointers, around a layup by  Fredonia's Brandon Hodge. The Blue Devils fought back with a basket and a pair of free throws from Ian Helps, but Nick Fessenden and Charlie Zaepfel took turns making layups....first Fessenden then Zaepfel, then Fessenden, then Zaepfel all over again. A short time later the Knights got 2 more baskets in succession when Crockett and Zaepfel hit back to back jumpers. The score was now 61-51 and it was the Knight that now had the double digit lead with 14:29 left to play. Finally order was being restored, there was no new world order, and all was as it should be. The Knights were simply and finally going about their business as they should have earlier in the game.

Or so it would seem. Usually at this stage of the game the Blue Devils would slowly fold up the tents, pack their bags and amble off to that 15 to 20 point loss, like they have in most of their games this year. But this time they didn't go away quietly into the night. They didn't go away noisily into the night either, they didn't go away at all. In fact they came back from that 10 point deficit and slowly whittled it down to a single possession  at 69-66, with 8:50 to go on a  Matt Cieslik 3 pointer, his 2nd in a row. The Knight's John Decker responded with a 3 pointer of his own but Justin Tapper and Tyler Roberts scored on consecutive trips down the floor. When the Knights missed the front end of a 1&1 the Blue Devils rebounded and Tapper hit a 3 pointer to give the Blue Devils the lead at 73-72. They never looked back. Ashort game of free throw shooting took place and the Blue Devils went 4 of 4 to the Knight 3 of 4. Then Helps and Tapper made layups on successive trips and Geneseo went scoreless. The lead was 81-75, with 4 minutes to go, and for every move the Knights had the Blue Devils had a reply. The Knights got it to a single possession game with 33 seconds left at 88-86. They had to foul and Fredonia's Roberts made 1 of 2 leaving the door slighty ajar with 18 ticks left. Needing a triple, they put the ball in Ringens hands, but unlike the Nazareth game when he buried the three to beat the buzzer and win it for the Knights, this time it didn't go down and the Blue Devils were victorious.

Ian Helps was  the game's high scorer and rebounder with 25 points and 13 boards for an outstanding double double and a leading candidate for the SUNYAC Player of the Week award. Helps also had 7 assists and 2 blocks.

Dante Williams had 14 points, 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Justin Tapper had 11 points and 4 rebounds while Matt Cieslik had 10 points.

Justin Ringen led the Knights with 23 points. and John Decker had 21.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on January 07, 2016, 09:38:01 AM
After watching the last few minutes of the Fred-Gen game online, Pep feels a bit better about his Saxons' loss at Fred State earlier this season. The Blue Devils have some athletes and can pull it altogether as they did against Geneseo. They pretty much did the same against AU.

Pep is also happy that the Saxons are back in the win column (80-74 over Utica in their Empire 8 opener) after a four-game slide against some heretofore unknown competition (losses to Albright and Johns Hopkins in PA after Christmas). AU's win over Utica was the first game played at the Galanis Family Arena since a Nov. 13 opener almost two months ago! Saxons will certainly be tested Friday night when they host a hot Naz team that shot the lights out in beating Ithaca 95-60 at Ben (Lights Out) Gym. On Saturday, AU hosts the same Bombers (7-3) who handed Tom Spanbauer's (one-time AU coach) Cortland Red Dragons their lone loss of the season.

On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 07, 2016, 08:06:38 AM
It appears to me the SUNYAC's is going to be alot closer race than first expected. From the posts I read earlier it looked like a 3 or 4 team horse race but with the first games of the new year some surprises(or are they?).  I wouldn't say there are any teams," that are a night off." It appears the conference is competitive from top to bottom. Agreed???

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on January 07, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 07, 2016, 08:06:38 AM
It appears to me the SUNYAC's is going to be alot closer race than first expected. From the posts I read earlier it looked like a 3 or 4 team horse race but with the first games of the new year some surprises(or are they?).  I wouldn't say there are any teams," that are a night off." It appears the conference is competitive from top to bottom. Agreed???

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saxons snap four-game skid....here's some +K for ya, Bengalsrule, because Pep's in a good mood despite fighting a cold.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on January 07, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 07, 2016, 08:06:38 AM
It appears to me the SUNYAC's is going to be alot closer race than first expected. From the posts I read earlier it looked like a 3 or 4 team horse race but with the first games of the new year some surprises(or are they?).  I wouldn't say there are any teams," that are a night off." It appears the conference is competitive from top to bottom. Agreed???

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saxons snap four-game skid....here's some +K for ya, Bengalsrule, because Pep's in a good mood despite fighting a cold.

My man Pep.  When Pep is happy we all are happy because he's nothing but good karma. And I must admit, on those E8 football boards, Pep and Pg04 are a breath of fresh air ( there are some tough hombres over there :o )
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 07, 2016, 11:44:39 AM
I think it's a 4 team race.
Its clear to me who those teams are in no particular order.
Oneonta
Plattsburgh
Buffalo State
Brockport
All these teams are Deep and Athletic, on any given night there are 4 or 5 guys that can score 20 points or more.
One of these team will certainly win the Conference.

I think Geneseo, Cortland or Oswego round out the 6 teams that make the playoffs.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2016, 11:48:12 AM
I think that assessment underrates Oswego a great deal. I know they are currently 1-2 after a bad loss to Oneonta, but do you really think the Lakers are just going to pack their bags and stay home? I highly doubt it.

Elmhurst lost by 20 to Benedictine... by your measure they shouldn't have been in the game against Augustana (that isn't a knock on Benedictine who is a very good team, but not better than Augustana). Yet, Elmhurst beat Augustana last night.

There is a lot of basketball to be played in what is always a see-saw, night-in/night-out SUNYAC especially since we haven't come close to the second round of conference games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 07, 2016, 11:55:14 AM
I just don't think they are as talented, deep or athletic as some of the other teams I have seen this year.
It's very tough to win the conference 2 years in a row. I think they lost some of their swagger.
Maybe it was too much time off in between games, but they looked dis-interested against Oneonta the other night.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 07, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
Oswego is way better than there performance showed as they are really banged up and Sortino was sick tuesday night against Oneonta but the Lakers will be in contention once again in the SUNYAC. I think its a 7 team race. I wouldnt be surprised if any of the 7 besides New Paltz, Fredonia and Potsdam win the regular season and/or conference tournament. Brockport/Oswego next tuesday is a huge game for Oswego especially but Bport as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2016, 02:56:51 PM
Bengalsrule - READ UP!

We are back to our normal Sunday and Thursday Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) shows tonight! Now that we are getting back into our routine, we get back into the habit of featuring the East, Mid-Atlantic, Great Lakes, and West Regions on Thursday night shows (Northeast, Atlantic, Central, and South Regions on Sunday nights). Tonight, Dave McHugh talks with coaches who are succeeding so far this season thanks to a bit of a youth movement. How those squads are either exceeding early expectations or reloading pretty nicely. Dave also gets an assist from Pat Coleman to help cover the much anticipated men's basketball game between No. 1 Augustana at No. 5 Elmhurst which needed overtime to be decided. And Dave talks about the latest Hoopsville partner - the WBCA. With the WBCA coming onboard with the NABC there needed to be some branding changes. You will hear the change almost immediately.

Watch Hoopsville tonight at 7pm ET: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan7 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan3) - a show that had to be pre-recorded tonight due to other commitments.

Guests and/or topics include (in order):
- Pat Coleman, coverage of No. 1 Augie vs. No. 5 Blue Jays
- Ron Rohn, No. 10 Muhlenberg women's coach
- Lindsay Goldblatt, Cal Lutheran women's coach
- Fajri Ansari, Buffalo State men's coach
- Chris Kibler, Hiram men's coach

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2016, 02:56:51 PM
Bengalsrule - READ UP!

We are back to our normal Sunday and Thursday Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) shows tonight! Now that we are getting back into our routine, we get back into the habit of featuring the East, Mid-Atlantic, Great Lakes, and West Regions on Thursday night shows (Northeast, Atlantic, Central, and South Regions on Sunday nights). Tonight, Dave McHugh talks with coaches who are succeeding so far this season thanks to a bit of a youth movement. How those squads are either exceeding early expectations or reloading pretty nicely. Dave also gets an assist from Pat Coleman to help cover the much anticipated men's basketball game between No. 1 Augustana at No. 5 Elmhurst which needed overtime to be decided. And Dave talks about the latest Hoopsville partner - the WBCA. With the WBCA coming onboard with the NABC there needed to be some branding changes. You will hear the change almost immediately.

Watch Hoopsville tonight at 7pm ET: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan7 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan3) - a show that had to be pre-recorded tonight due to other commitments.

Guests and/or topics include (in order):
- Pat Coleman, coverage of No. 1 Augie vs. No. 5 Blue Jays
- Ron Rohn, No. 10 Muhlenberg women's coach
- Lindsay Goldblatt, Cal Lutheran women's coach
- Fajri Ansari, Buffalo State men's coach
- Chris Kibler, Hiram men's coach

You can tune into the podcast after the show airs here::
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    I'm on it Dave.  Plus many of the Buff State team/family will be tuned in on their ipads/laptops while traveling to Plattsburgh via UNO Chicago Grill in New Hartford. Grand tours bus has great wifi ( from what I've been told) and the Buff State SID ( great guy named Jeff) really blew up Coach Ansari's appearance on the school website!!!

   I'm in Albany Ny getting ready for a wake ( gonna miss my Bengals this weekend). Heading to wake now so I can tune in at 7 ( my Laquinta hotel has great wifi  :D)!

Go HOOPSVILLE!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 07, 2016, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on January 07, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 09:41:44 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 07, 2016, 08:06:38 AM
It appears to me the SUNYAC's is going to be alot closer race than first expected. From the posts I read earlier it looked like a 3 or 4 team horse race but with the first games of the new year some surprises(or are they?).  I wouldn't say there are any teams," that are a night off." It appears the conference is competitive from top to bottom. Agreed???

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saxons snap four-game skid....here's some +K for ya, Bengalsrule, because Pep's in a good mood despite fighting a cold.

My man Pep.  When Pep is happy we all are happy because he's nothing but good karma. And I must admit, on those E8 football boards, Pep and Pg04 are a breath of fresh air ( there are some tough hombres over there :o )

It's a jungle over there  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2016, 05:55:36 AM
Friday ]anuary  8th   

Four games on tap today in the 1st big weekend of 2016 and 2nd big weekend of the SUNYAC season. Also Geneseo and Brockport get to play their first back to back conference games having missed the December weekend. Here we go.   

New Paltz State  at  Brockport State        7:30 PM

The Golden Eagles are not happy that they let one slip away on Tuesday when the Buffalo State Bengals came from behind and got the W in Brockport. Coach Dunne will make sure that doesn't happen tonight against the Hawks. Brockport owns an 8-2 record in this series over the past 10 games but the Hawks have managed to get 1 of those 2 wins last year. Both teams have a lot of the same personnel back.

Brockport has dropped 2 games in a row and will be looking to start a new winning streak. The Hawks are just looking for a win. Losers of 8 in a row since their season opening win against Vassar, New Paltz has dropped 5 straight games by double digit margins. The oddsmakers say more of the same is in their immediate future as they are a 15 point underdog. I think that Brockport will win by a bigger margin. Golden Eagles take this one by an 83-64 final       
   
Oneonta State  at  Geneseo State         7:30 PM Featured Game of the Day

Oneonta's dismantling of Oswego on Tuesday night was as surprising as Geneseo falling to Fredonia. Hard to say which one sent bigger shock waves through the SUNYAC community. The Blue Knights didn't count on heading into this weekend with a 0-1 record in the YAC.

Oneonta hasn't won a game on this road trip to western NY in 6 years. That was the last time the Red Dragons went dancing. Since then it's been 0-2 every weekend. Both Brockport and Geneseo have playoff caliber teams this year but so do the Red Dragons. The first rule toward making those playoffs is to protect your home court. Geneseo has already broken that rule and I don't think they can afford to do so in back to back games. The defeat by Fredonia was the first loss the Knights had against an NCAA Division III team. I think it was an aberration and tonight they get back to the basics of holding home court. It should be an exciting game as the point spread favors the home team by a slim 2 points. I see the Knights winning by a small margin as well and overtime could be in the picture.  Geneseo 86 Oneonta 81     


Buffalo State  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM

The Bengals are flying high after extending their winning streak to 5 games Tuesday night and are looking to match their longest streak of the 2014-15 campaign when they won 6 in a row from January 13th through January 24th. The Bears are looking for just their 2nd win of the season. Hard to figure an upset here as the Bears have lost 7 of their 8 games by substantial margins. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 20 point home dog and the Bengals high powered attack and in your face defense could steamroll this young team by a bigger margin than that. The Bengals could fall victim to the classic trap game, with major rival Plattsburgh State on tap for tomorrow, in what could have a major factor on tournament seedings down the road.

Somehow I don't think the Bengals coaching staff will allow that to happen. I seem to recall a certain Bengals backer telling me that in Bengal land the next game is the only one that matters. Buffalo State is 14-0 against Potsdam over the past 8 years, which is the most one sided match up in the YAC. Tonight it becomes 15-0 as the Bengals win this one by an 85-61 final score.   

   
Fredonia State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM

The Cardinals are hoping to be at full strength tonight as they await medical clearance to get their leading scorer and the 6th leading rebounder in all of Division III, Kyle Richardson, back in the lineup. Richardson missed the last game, a Cardinal win over Trinity College, but the young guns on the Cardinal bench stepped up and provided the firepower needed to pick up the slack. Plattsburgh will be looking for their 4th win in a row which would be their longest streak of the season. The Cards lead this series 8-2 over the past 5 years and the Blue Devils haven't beaten the Cardinals since January of 2012.

Fredonia got their biggest win in probably 3 years on Tuesday night and the confidence that comes from beating a team as good as Geneseo will go a long way in helping this young team become better and better. Someone else will fall victim to the Blue Devils this year, I hope it isn't my Cardinals tonight, looking past them to the Buff State matchup tomorrow.

The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a solid 20 point favorite. I think that it may be a little closer. Final score...Cardinals 81-63.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2016, 02:56:51 PM
Bengalsrule - READ UP!

We are back to our normal Sunday and Thursday Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) shows tonight! Now that we are getting back into our routine, we get back into the habit of featuring the East, Mid-Atlantic, Great Lakes, and West Regions on Thursday night shows (Northeast, Atlantic, Central, and South Regions on Sunday nights). Tonight, Dave McHugh talks with coaches who are succeeding so far this season thanks to a bit of a youth movement. How those squads are either exceeding early expectations or reloading pretty nicely. Dave also gets an assist from Pat Coleman to help cover the much anticipated men's basketball game between No. 1 Augustana at No. 5 Elmhurst which needed overtime to be decided. And Dave talks about the latest Hoopsville partner - the WBCA. With the WBCA coming onboard with the NABC there needed to be some branding changes. You will hear the change almost immediately.

Watch Hoopsville tonight at 7pm ET: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan7 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan3) - a show that had to be pre-recorded tonight due to other commitments.

Guests and/or topics include (in order):
- Pat Coleman, coverage of No. 1 Augie vs. No. 5 Blue Jays
- Ron Rohn, No. 10 Muhlenberg women's coach
- Lindsay Goldblatt, Cal Lutheran women's coach
- Fajri Ansari, Buffalo State men's coach
- Chris Kibler, Hiram men's coach

You can tune into the podcast after the show airs here::
SoundCloud: www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville (http://www.soundcloud.com/hoopsville)
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/hoopsville/id1059517087)

And don't forget you can always interact with us:
Website: www.d3hoopsville.com (http://www.d3hoopsville.com)
Twitter: @d3hoopsville (http://www.twitter.com/d3hoopsville) or #Hoopsville
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    I'm on it Dave.  Plus many of the Buff State team/family will be tuned in on their ipads/laptops while traveling to Plattsburgh via UNO Chicago Grill in New Hartford. Grand tours bus has great wifi ( from what I've been told) and the Buff State SID ( great guy named Jeff) really blew up Coach Ansari's appearance on the school website!!!

   I'm in Albany Ny getting ready for a wake ( gonna miss my Bengals this weekend). Heading to wake now so I can tune in at 7 ( my Laquinta hotel has great wifi  :D)!

Go HOOPSVILLE!

Go BENGALS!

Couple of items:

- Happy to have him on... I have a feeling I might tap into the SUNYAC a few times (as much as I try and be diversified with conferences) because of how crazy it looks like it will be the rest of the season.
- Always thrilled when an SID puts something on their website along with Twitter. It obviously helps drive up numbers and awareness of the show, but it shows me the SID, coach, and/or department respects what we do and feels it is important. Some just help organize the interview and move on... others just ignore us.
- Sorry for the delay getting the video posted. A editing mistake had to be fixed late in the afternoon, but we were still going to make the 7pm deadline... only for there be a random hangup with the upload to YouTube (I think a second browser from a second computer checking in on the progress and editing the text caused a hangup) delay things.
- I actually know the UNO Chicago Grill in New Hartford you are speaking of!!! My grandparents lived in New Hartford since moving from New York City when my mother was a very, very young girl (the house was built, I believe, by my great grandfather). My aunt and uncle still live in Remsen (per the comment about traveling along Route 8 and Route 365 on the return trip - their property line butts up to Rt. 365 near Hinckley Lake), so I still get back there once in awhile (this past summer for my cousin's wedding). I haven't eaten at that particular restaurant, but I know exactly where it is!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2016, 05:24:08 AM
January 5th   Buffalo State 81 Brockport State 73

Quite an exciting game the other night in Brockport. As a fan it was a great game to watch. Both teams played hard and either team could have walked of the floor with a W. I had the Bengals  winning this one in a barnburner by an 82-80 score. It was a barnburner and I only missed Buff State's score by a single point. If Port had made their free throws I coulda been closer on their end as well.

The Bengals trailed in this game from the opening tip as Brockport jumped out to a quick 10-2 lead thanks to a pair of long range bombs by Pat Modzelewski. The Bengals would close to within a point at 13-12 on a Lovell Smith jumper and a pair of Redell Freeman free throws with 10:23 left in the half. That would set the pattern for this game over the next 27 minutes of play as the Golden Eagles would maintain a lead of up to 9 points. The Bengals would respond every time and close to within a single possession but could never get over the hump and claim a lead. Toward the end of the half Buffalo State went from down 8, to down 4, to down 9 at 36-27 with less then a minute to play. Freeman scored on a drive to the hoop with 3 seconds left to cut the lead to 7 at the half, 36-29 in favor of the Golden Eagles.

The 2nd half didn't see much change. The Bengals got a pair of fee throws from Smith to narrow the lead once more, but back to back layups by Olusola Adeniran and Modzelewski matched Brockport's largest lead of the game at 9 points. Back came the Bengals and Nico McLean's 2 free throws with 16:17 on the clock cut it down to a single possession at 42-39.

Brockport failed to pull away and the Bengals couldn't gain a lead. This continued to play out over the next 10 minutes when the Bengals got a boost from Mike Henry. Down 65-61, Henry scored on a layup to cut it to 2 and after the Golden Eagles missed a layup on their end, Henry came down and scored inside once again to create the first tie score of the game at 65 apiece with 4:34 on the clock. Brockport missed a jumper but Levi Pace grabbed the offensive rebound and scored to give the Eagles the lead. Back came Henry 12 seconds later  to score inside again and tie it up. Henry followed that up with a steal and was fouled going to the basket. he made the first free throw and the Bengals had their first lead of the evening at 68-67 and their was 3:34 left to play.

Now each possession was critical and both teams missed opportunities on their 2 trips down the floor. Each team missed a shot and had a turnover. Then Pace scored to put Brockport back in front by a point, but once more Mike Henry, rose to the occasion and hit a jumper to give the Bengals the lead for the 2nd time. It would be a lead they would hold onto until the final buzzer. It was the 9th straight point that Henry had scored for the Bengals as he brought them from a 4 point deficit to the only 2 leads they had all night.

Brockport needing to keep pace with Buff State missed a layup and the Bengals big man Jordan Chateau scored inside (chateau means house and this guy is as big as a house) to increase the lead to 3 points with 1:18 left. Brockport needed to score and when they came up empty on a 3 point attempt, that set the stage for Jordan Glover to put his free throw shooting prowess on display. Five times Brockport put him on the line and Jordan responded by canning 9 of 10. This one was in the books and Buffalo State made a statement that maybe, just maybe, the road to the SUNYAC crown may go through the Queen City this year. This coming weekend will prove interesting.

Mike Henry was the MVP of this game as his double-double of 20 points and 10 rebounds were game highs in both categories. His 9 straight points in crunch time were the most pivotal points in the game as well. He also had 3 assist and 3 steals.

Lovell Smith with 14 points and 5 rebounds along with Jordan Glover who also had 14 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals, also came up big for the Bengals. Jordan Chateau had 9 points and 5 rebounds. Redell Freeman had 8 points and was perfect shooting the rock, as he was 3x3 from the field, and 2x2 from the line. Nico McLean didn't score his usual amount but has 4 assists, 2 steal and 2 rebounds to go with his 4 points.

Statistically this game was fairly even as both teams had similar shooting percentages from the field and from long distance. The Bengal had a sizable edge from the line making 26 of 35 free throws (74.3%) to 13x24 for Brockport (54.2%). The 10 free throws that Jordan Glover had in the final 52 seconds, when Brockport was forced to foul, account for the discrepancy in numbers. The 5 missed free throws that Brockport had from the 8 minute mark to the point that Buffalo State tied the game up were one of the biggest factors that enabled the Bengals to come away with the win here.

Both teams committed a large number of turnovers...19 for the Bengals and 18 for the Golden Eagles, typical of the styles of defense that both teams play. Brockport had a slight edge on the boards of 40 to 38.

Brockport had 3 players in double figures with Clifton Lylerly leading the way in both points and rebounds. He had 19 points and just missed his double-double with 9 rebounds.  Patrick Modzelewski had 13 points and 7 rebounds, while Levi Pace came off the bench with 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 steals. Matthew Smith had 7 points, 8 assists and 3 rebounds. Hamed Shamseldin scored 9 points, 2 assists and 2 steals, while    Devonn Gavin had 8 points and 2 rebounds off the bench.

Brockport now 5-3 (0-1) with a 2 game losing streak will look to get back on track when they host New Paltz and Oneonta this coming weekend.

Buffalo State improves to 8-2 overall (2-1) and will now make the long busride to the top of the state to visit the North Country. They will meet Potsdam on Friday night and then take on Plattsburgh on Saturday afternoon in the featured SUNYAC game of the Day. There will be a live video feed by one of the top companies out there and live stats as well. Here are links to receive the broadcast or get the live stats:
    http://www.gocardinalsports.com/index.aspx?tab=basketball&path=mbball

If you just want the webcast, here is a link to Northeast Sports Network, the company that does the webcast:
          http://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/

Any idea of the quality of Potsdam live feed?  This will be my first time watching the Benals online in quite a while.  Any cost for viewing ? 

P.s.  Mike Henry is my dark horse for Sunyac Player of the Year.   :) No...make that Lovell Smith for POY.   :D Oh heck Nico McLean for POY.  ;D Damn never mind  :-\

Ps. Ps. Jordan Chateau " big house".  I hope that you told him that at shoot around today.  He would get a kick out of that!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Potsdam feed is pretty good. Enjoy the victory tonight.

4 games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC:

Buffalo State all over Potsdam

Brockport beats up on New Paltz

Plattsburgh runs away from Fredonia

Oneonta coming off a huge win over Oswego, keeps their swagger and goes into Geneseo and wins by double digits.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 11:16:41 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2016, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2016, 02:56:51 PM
Bengalsrule - READ UP!

We are back to our normal Sunday and Thursday Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) shows tonight! Now that we are getting back into our routine, we get back into the habit of featuring the East, Mid-Atlantic, Great Lakes, and West Regions on Thursday night shows (Northeast, Atlantic, Central, and South Regions on Sunday nights). Tonight, Dave McHugh talks with coaches who are succeeding so far this season thanks to a bit of a youth movement. How those squads are either exceeding early expectations or reloading pretty nicely. Dave also gets an assist from Pat Coleman to help cover the much anticipated men's basketball game between No. 1 Augustana at No. 5 Elmhurst which needed overtime to be decided. And Dave talks about the latest Hoopsville partner - the WBCA. With the WBCA coming onboard with the NABC there needed to be some branding changes. You will hear the change almost immediately.

Watch Hoopsville tonight at 7pm ET: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan7 (http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/jan3) - a show that had to be pre-recorded tonight due to other commitments.

Guests and/or topics include (in order):
- Pat Coleman, coverage of No. 1 Augie vs. No. 5 Blue Jays
- Ron Rohn, No. 10 Muhlenberg women's coach
- Lindsay Goldblatt, Cal Lutheran women's coach
- Fajri Ansari, Buffalo State men's coach
- Chris Kibler, Hiram men's coach

You can tune into the podcast after the show airs here::
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    I'm on it Dave.  Plus many of the Buff State team/family will be tuned in on their ipads/laptops while traveling to Plattsburgh via UNO Chicago Grill in New Hartford. Grand tours bus has great wifi ( from what I've been told) and the Buff State SID ( great guy named Jeff) really blew up Coach Ansari's appearance on the school website!!!

   I'm in Albany Ny getting ready for a wake ( gonna miss my Bengals this weekend). Heading to wake now so I can tune in at 7 ( my Laquinta hotel has great wifi  :D)!

Go HOOPSVILLE!

Go BENGALS!

Couple of items:

- Happy to have him on... I have a feeling I might tap into the SUNYAC a few times (as much as I try and be diversified with conferences) because of how crazy it looks like it will be the rest of the season.
- Always thrilled when an SID puts something on their website along with Twitter. It obviously helps drive up numbers and awareness of the show, but it shows me the SID, coach, and/or department respects what we do and feels it is important. Some just help organize the interview and move on... others just ignore us.
- Sorry for the delay getting the video posted. A editing mistake had to be fixed late in the afternoon, but we were still going to make the 7pm deadline... only for there be a random hangup with the upload to YouTube (I think a second browser from a second computer checking in on the progress and editing the text caused a hangup) delay things.
- I actually know the UNO Chicago Grill in New Hartford you are speaking of!!! My grandparents lived in New Hartford since moving from New York City when my mother was a very, very young girl (the house was built, I believe, by my great grandfather). My aunt and uncle still live in Remsen (per the comment about traveling along Route 8 and Route 365 on the return trip - their property line butts up to Rt. 365 near Hinckley Lake), so I still get back there once in awhile (this past summer for my cousin's wedding). I haven't eaten at that particular restaurant, but I know exactly where it is!

Great show. First time my wife ever listened ( she had too because I turned the sound off on the tv in our hotel room).  It's interesting listening to coach Fajri who is extremely humble .  Keep up the good work.

Ps where can I buy one of those D3 shirts?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 11:18:59 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 08, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Potsdam feed is pretty good. Enjoy the victory tonight.

4 games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC:

Buffalo State all over Potsdam

Brockport beats up on New Paltz

Plattsburgh runs away from Fredonia

Oneonta coming off a huge win over Oswego, keeps their swagger and goes into Geneseo and wins by double digits.

Enjoy the games

Plus k All-time.  I can't wait to see tomorrows predictions ( but first things first)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 11:16:41 AM
Great show. First time my wife ever listened ( she had too because I turned the sound off on the tv in our hotel room).  It's interesting listening to coach Fajri who is extremely humble .  Keep up the good work.

Ps where can I buy one of those D3 shirts?

What shirts are you referring to?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 12:08:35 PM
Good to have our real first conference Friday!

I think Brockport should defeat New Paltz but you never know how a team running on emotion and gaining confidence may do. Not overlooking this one for sure. Of course it seems like tomorrow is the big night when the road partners switch opponents. But we shall see.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2016, 05:24:08 AM
January 5th   Buffalo State 81 Brockport State 73

Quite an exciting game the other night in Brockport. As a fan it was a great game to watch. Both teams played hard and either team could have walked of the floor with a W. I had the Bengals  winning this one in a barnburner by an 82-80 score. It was a barnburner and I only missed Buff State's score by a single point. If Port had made their free throws I coulda been closer on their end as well.

The Bengals trailed in this game from the opening tip as Brockport jumped out to a quick 10-2 lead thanks to a pair of long range bombs by Pat Modzelewski. The Bengals would close to within a point at 13-12 on a Lovell Smith jumper and a pair of Redell Freeman free throws with 10:23 left in the half. That would set the pattern for this game over the next 27 minutes of play as the Golden Eagles would maintain a lead of up to 9 points. The Bengals would respond every time and close to within a single possession but could never get over the hump and claim a lead. Toward the end of the half Buffalo State went from down 8, to down 4, to down 9 at 36-27 with less then a minute to play. Freeman scored on a drive to the hoop with 3 seconds left to cut the lead to 7 at the half, 36-29 in favor of the Golden Eagles.

The 2nd half didn't see much change. The Bengals got a pair of fee throws from Smith to narrow the lead once more, but back to back layups by Olusola Adeniran and Modzelewski matched Brockport's largest lead of the game at 9 points. Back came the Bengals and Nico McLean's 2 free throws with 16:17 on the clock cut it down to a single possession at 42-39.

Brockport failed to pull away and the Bengals couldn't gain a lead. This continued to play out over the next 10 minutes when the Bengals got a boost from Mike Henry. Down 65-61, Henry scored on a layup to cut it to 2 and after the Golden Eagles missed a layup on their end, Henry came down and scored inside once again to create the first tie score of the game at 65 apiece with 4:34 on the clock. Brockport missed a jumper but Levi Pace grabbed the offensive rebound and scored to give the Eagles the lead. Back came Henry 12 seconds later  to score inside again and tie it up. Henry followed that up with a steal and was fouled going to the basket. he made the first free throw and the Bengals had their first lead of the evening at 68-67 and their was 3:34 left to play.

Now each possession was critical and both teams missed opportunities on their 2 trips down the floor. Each team missed a shot and had a turnover. Then Pace scored to put Brockport back in front by a point, but once more Mike Henry, rose to the occasion and hit a jumper to give the Bengals the lead for the 2nd time. It would be a lead they would hold onto until the final buzzer. It was the 9th straight point that Henry had scored for the Bengals as he brought them from a 4 point deficit to the only 2 leads they had all night.

Brockport needing to keep pace with Buff State missed a layup and the Bengals big man Jordan Chateau scored inside (chateau means house and this guy is as big as a house) to increase the lead to 3 points with 1:18 left. Brockport needed to score and when they came up empty on a 3 point attempt, that set the stage for Jordan Glover to put his free throw shooting prowess on display. Five times Brockport put him on the line and Jordan responded by canning 9 of 10. This one was in the books and Buffalo State made a statement that maybe, just maybe, the road to the SUNYAC crown may go through the Queen City this year. This coming weekend will prove interesting.

Mike Henry was the MVP of this game as his double-double of 20 points and 10 rebounds were game highs in both categories. His 9 straight points in crunch time were the most pivotal points in the game as well. He also had 3 assist and 3 steals.

Lovell Smith with 14 points and 5 rebounds along with Jordan Glover who also had 14 points, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals, also came up big for the Bengals. Jordan Chateau had 9 points and 5 rebounds. Redell Freeman had 8 points and was perfect shooting the rock, as he was 3x3 from the field, and 2x2 from the line. Nico McLean didn't score his usual amount but has 4 assists, 2 steal and 2 rebounds to go with his 4 points.

Statistically this game was fairly even as both teams had similar shooting percentages from the field and from long distance. The Bengal had a sizable edge from the line making 26 of 35 free throws (74.3%) to 13x24 for Brockport (54.2%). The 10 free throws that Jordan Glover had in the final 52 seconds, when Brockport was forced to foul, account for the discrepancy in numbers. The 5 missed free throws that Brockport had from the 8 minute mark to the point that Buffalo State tied the game up were one of the biggest factors that enabled the Bengals to come away with the win here.

Both teams committed a large number of turnovers...19 for the Bengals and 18 for the Golden Eagles, typical of the styles of defense that both teams play. Brockport had a slight edge on the boards of 40 to 38.

Brockport had 3 players in double figures with Clifton Lylerly leading the way in both points and rebounds. He had 19 points and just missed his double-double with 9 rebounds.  Patrick Modzelewski had 13 points and 7 rebounds, while Levi Pace came off the bench with 12 points, 8 rebounds and 2 steals. Matthew Smith had 7 points, 8 assists and 3 rebounds. Hamed Shamseldin scored 9 points, 2 assists and 2 steals, while    Devonn Gavin had 8 points and 2 rebounds off the bench.

Brockport now 5-3 (0-1) with a 2 game losing streak will look to get back on track when they host New Paltz and Oneonta this coming weekend.

Buffalo State improves to 8-2 overall (2-1) and will now make the long busride to the top of the state to visit the North Country. They will meet Potsdam on Friday night and then take on Plattsburgh on Saturday afternoon in the featured SUNYAC game of the Day. There will be a live video feed by one of the top companies out there and live stats as well. Here are links to receive the broadcast or get the live stats:
    http://www.gocardinalsports.com/index.aspx?tab=basketball&path=mbball

If you just want the webcast, here is a link to Northeast Sports Network, the company that does the webcast:
          http://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/

Any idea of the quality of Potsdam live feed?  This will be my first time watching the Benals online in quite a while.  Any cost for viewing ? 

P.s.  Mike Henry is my dark horse for Sunyac Player of the Year.   :) No...make that Lovell Smith for POY.   :D Oh heck Nico McLean for POY.  ;D Damn never mind  :-\

Ps. Ps. Jordan Chateau " big house".  I hope that you told him that at shoot around today.  He would get a kick out of that!

What makes you think I went to a Buffalo State shootaround today? Are you crazy? I wouldn't be seen dead with those guys much less standing on two feet.

There is no charge to view the Potsdam on line webcast, it is free.  I've had mixed results with their feed. Decent on some games but freeze ups on other occasions.

But you will have a GREAT feed for the Saturday afternoon game between the Bengals and Cardinals, if your schedule allows you to watch it. It even comes with announcers and a high quality video. You may even get instant replay.

I was just kidding you...I have already been to the Buff State shootaround at 9:30 this morning. Talked to a number of the guys and of course Coach Ansari and Coach Glover. I have to go back around 1:30 and pick up Chris who is making a food run that some other guy usually does but was a no show this weekend. Heard he had a good excuse though.


Watched the Hoopsville show last night and listened to Coach Ansari tell the viewers about the state of the SUNYAC. Heard a sidebar about the time the bus driver got lost in Oneonta and got the bus stuck in the mud/snow. No magicman down there to call and bail your rears out....always the one good thing about coming up North...you know who you can count on. :D ;D 8-)

I will tell Jordan Chateau I've given him a new nickname...Big House...when I return to the hotel with lunch later today.

Lovell Smith, Mike Henry, Nico McLean, 3 excellent choices and if your Bengals win the conference crown there's a good chance once of them may get that award. You know that my money is on Kyle Richardson. The odds are a bit longer on him because the Cardinals aren't as heavily favored as some of the other teams, such as Buffalo State, but that just means the payout will big bigger if and when Kyle and the Cards do collect the Grand Prize ;).

I miss your face...wish you were here.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 08, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
Is that the reason Buffalo State hasn't won at Dewar Arena in Oneonta the last 3 years.
The bus getting lost and getting caught in the Mud and Snow. LOL  ;D
In fact I think the Red Dragons knocked them out of the playoffs all 3 years by losing there.
Yes, they needed the Magic Wand to help them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2016, 03:29:30 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 08, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
Is that the reason Buffalo State hasn't won at Dewar Arena in Oneonta the last 3 years.
The bus getting lost and getting caught in the Mud and Snow. LOL  ;D
In fact I think the Red Dragons knocked them out of the playoffs all 3 years by losing there.
Yes, they needed the Magic Wand to help them.

Last years loss at Oneonta didn't knock the Bengals out of the playoffs as they were the 5th seed but it did keep them from hosting a first round game which ultimately led them to exit after losing that game to Brockport.

Two years go the 83-82 loss to the Red Dragons in Oneonta DID knock them out of the playoffs and I remember telling Bengalsrule, at the time, that the Oneonta game would determine whether or not the Bengals played in the post season.

Three years ago the loss at Oneonta only added insult to injury. Had the Bengals won that game they would have tied New Paltz for the final playoff spot. The two teams split the regular season games but the Hawks won the tiebreaker when they had a win against top seed Cortland and the Bengals did not.

One cannot overlook the fact however, that regardless of how good the Bengals were, or how down the Red Dragons program may have been for a few years, Buffalo State has lost every game in Oneonta for the past 9 years except for 1 game on December 2nd, 2011.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 08, 2016, 03:29:30 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 08, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
Is that the reason Buffalo State hasn't won at Dewar Arena in Oneonta the last 3 years.
The bus getting lost and getting caught in the Mud and Snow. LOL  ;D
In fact I think the Red Dragons knocked them out of the playoffs all 3 years by losing there.
Yes, they needed the Magic Wand to help them.

Last years loss at Oneonta didn't knock the Bengals out of the playoffs as they were the 5th seed but it did keep them from hosting a first round game which ultimately led them to exit after losing that game to Brockport.

Two years go the 83-82 loss to the Red Dragons in Oneonta DID knock them out of the playoffs and I remember telling Bengalsrule, at the time, that the Oneonta game would determine whether or not the Bengals played in the post season.

Three years ago the loss at Oneonta only added insult to injury. Had the Bengals won that game they would have tied New Paltz for the final playoff spot. The two teams split the regular season games but the Hawks won the tiebreaker when they had a win against top seed Cortland and the Bengals did not.

One cannot overlook the fact however, that regardless of how good the Bengals were, or how down the Red Dragons program may have been for a few years, Buffalo State has lost every game in Oneonta for the past 9 years except for 1 game on December 2nd, 2011.         

Thanks for reminding me guys :'( :-\ :-X :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: iwumichigander on January 08, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 08, 2016, 03:29:30 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 08, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
Is that the reason Buffalo State hasn't won at Dewar Arena in Oneonta the last 3 years.
The bus getting lost and getting caught in the Mud and Snow. LOL  ;D
In fact I think the Red Dragons knocked them out of the playoffs all 3 years by losing there.
Yes, they needed the Magic Wand to help them.

Last years loss at Oneonta didn't knock the Bengals out of the playoffs as they were the 5th seed but it did keep them from hosting a first round game which ultimately led them to exit after losing that game to Brockport.

Two years go the 83-82 loss to the Red Dragons in Oneonta DID knock them out of the playoffs and I remember telling Bengalsrule, at the time, that the Oneonta game would determine whether or not the Bengals played in the post season.

Three years ago the loss at Oneonta only added insult to injury. Had the Bengals won that game they would have tied New Paltz for the final playoff spot. The two teams split the regular season games but the Hawks won the tiebreaker when they had a win against top seed Cortland and the Bengals did not.

One cannot overlook the fact however, that regardless of how good the Bengals were, or how down the Red Dragons program may have been for a few years, Buffalo State has lost every game in Oneonta for the past 9 years except for 1 game on December 2nd, 2011.         

Thanks for reminding me guys :'( :-\ :-X :-[
Sounds like Buff should go to Oneonta asked for the post game pizza to be ordered right away, grab some popcorn, drink a Coke (get an extra for the return trip) and leave as soon as the pizza arrives!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 07:41:34 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 11:16:41 AM
Great show. First time my wife ever listened ( she had too because I turned the sound off on the tv in our hotel room).  It's interesting listening to coach Fajri who is extremely humble .  Keep up the good work.

Ps where can I buy one of those D3 shirts?

What shirts are you referring to?

On the show your blue shirt had "D3" over the right chest. Wondering if those shirts were for sale?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 07:57:52 PM
Brockport seems to be doing what they should, it's 32-17 with about 7 minutes left in the first half.

Brockport got up as much as 22 (I think) and lead 48-28 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 09:12:26 PM
Brockport defeats New Paltz easily by the score of 89-55. And it wasn't that close - The lead was 40 before 2 late 3's by New Paltz.

Some key stats (from the live stats, they may get updated) to show the disparity:

Fg%- Brockport:  55.4% New Paltz: 36%
Rebounds - Brockport: 44 ; New Paltz: 26

Free throws: Brockport: 7-11 ; New Paltz 13-29 (ouch!) Brockport always seems to foul more than their opponents...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 09:38:26 PM
Other Scores:

Plattsburgh with just as decisive win over Fredonia 86-54.

Buffalo State seems to have survived against Potsdam 84-78. Don't know more than the score so we'll see what other info we get on it.  :P

Oneonta stays hot and defeats Geneseo 76-65.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 10:42:45 PM
Rushed home from a repast to catch the game...
1st time watching my Bengals online in a while. Hard game to watch in the 2nd half when we were out scored by 6!  Thank God we went 21-25 from the charity stripe. Thank God Jordan Glover had 9 assists and Mike Henry recorded an almost double double (21 pts and 9 rebounds). Thank God that Kevin Marmolejos came off the bench to score 18. An ugly win if ever I saw 1. Watching this game on line gives me a whole different perspective on my beloved Bengals!

17 turnovers??  Not something that will make coach happy. That's for sure! Give it to the Bears. They have to be the best 1 win team in america!  Trust me.. Dante Langley will be a force in the Sunyac!  I pity the fool who looks past Potsdam. It's gonna hurt. Now on to Plattsburgh. I sure hope that their live feed is better than Potsdam. The last 2 mins of the 2nd  half froze.  Had to keep up via live stats on my phone. Potsdam nailed 3 or 4,  3 pointers,  in the last 40 seconds.  Thank God for live stats!

Go BENGALS!

RIP  Norman McConney!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 11:30:31 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 07:41:34 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2016, 11:16:41 AM
Great show. First time my wife ever listened ( she had too because I turned the sound off on the tv in our hotel room).  It's interesting listening to coach Fajri who is extremely humble .  Keep up the good work.

Ps where can I buy one of those D3 shirts?

What shirts are you referring to?

On the show your blue shirt had "D3" over the right chest. Wondering if those shirts were for sale?

OH! Ha! I forgot what I had worn for the show (since it was all pre-recorded and I was focused on the shirt and tie I was wearing instead last night).

I am afraid not. Those are staff shirts. :-/ I have Hoopsville t-shirts I'd consider selling. :-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 11:41:00 PM
Staff shirts?? I consider Bengals staff here on the boards!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
LOL - I see your point of view, but being staff shirts, I don't have extras. :-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2016, 12:17:22 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
LOL - I see your point of view, but being staff shirts, I don't have extras. :-)

No problem Dave.  ;). A Hoopsville t shirt will work.  Just let me know how much!   
Quote from: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 11:41:00 PM
Staff shirts?? I consider Bengals staff here on the boards!  ;) ;D

Thanks pg04.   Something tells me that Magicman will come up with a t shirt idea that we can all agree on!   :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2016, 05:58:43 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2016, 12:17:22 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
LOL - I see your point of view, but being staff shirts, I don't have extras. :-)

No problem Dave.  ;). A Hoopsville t shirt will work.  Jet let me know how much!   
Quote from: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 11:41:00 PM
Staff shirts?? I consider Bengals staff here on the boards!  ;) ;D

Thanks pg04.   Something tells me that Magicman will come up with a t shirt idea that we can all agree on!   :)

T-Shirts??  T-Shirts? The magicman got out of the haberdashery business 40 years ago. The only T-Shirt that I recommend has a large P on it right above the heart. Next to the P is a Cardinal. They come in Red, White or Blue. They don't come with a B on it. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2016, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 09, 2016, 05:58:43 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2016, 12:17:22 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
LOL - I see your point of view, but being staff shirts, I don't have extras. :-)

No problem Dave.  ;). A Hoopsville t shirt will work.  Jet let me know how much!   
Quote from: pg04 on January 08, 2016, 11:41:00 PM
Staff shirts?? I consider Bengals staff here on the boards!  ;) ;D

Thanks pg04.   Something tells me that Magicman will come up with a t shirt idea that we can all agree on!   :)

T-Shirts??  T-Shirts? The magicman got out of the haberdashery business 40 years ago. The only T-Shirt that I recommend has a large P on it right above the heart. Next to the P is a Cardinal. They come in Red, White or Blue. They don't come with a B on it.

I don't think that I have 1 of those in my closet. Maybe you want to send me 1, xl, via coach Chris Hillman today.  Come to think of it, I believe a certain coach brought you a Buff State t-shirt years ago. I could be wrong though ( memory ain't what it used to be). I told a good friend of mine about the music shop too. Don't be surprised if he stops in there 1 day and says "hi" to you and/or Mrs Magicman!

Predictions fellas ???

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 09, 2016, 12:37:52 PM
I watched my Eagles on video last night and very impressive. It was a great team effort with alot of playing time for some people that needed it. Congrats to Josh Nelson for lighting up the gym. Good to see Pat M. start knocking down some  shots and re-estblishing himself. The real game is today with Oneonta!!! Make it a great weekend, boys!!! Good luck--May the Force be with you!!!Little Star Wars--
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 09, 2016, 01:53:51 PM
Gentlemen,
What we have here today are some final four match-ups.
Buffalo State visiting Plattsburgh at Memorial Hall, where the Magicman will certain have his MAGIC WAND out.
And The RED HOT Oneonta RED DRAGONS visiting Brockport.
This is a prelude to the final 4 teams come February.

Quick predictions.
Plattsburgh over Buffalo State in a highly contested match-up. 92-88.
Oneonta over Brockport in a very tough game 78-72.
Geneseo all over New Paltz
Potsdam coming off a very inspiring game last night beating Fredonia.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2016, 02:31:50 PM
Saturday January 9th

Just went to post all my selections and hit the wrong button and lost my entire post that I've been working on for the past hour. I damn well hate it when that happens. So the usual banter will be missing today as I have to leave for the game. Just some quick picks instead.




New Paltz Statz  at  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

Geneseo has the blues and will try and get healthy against the Hawks. Hawks a 15 point underdog will be hard pressed to keep it that close.  Geneseo wins this one 87-61


Fredonia State  at  Potsdam State        4:00 PM

Both with a 1-17 record in the Yac last year as they beat each other on the road. Both already have their 1 win this year but at least one of these 2 team will double last year's output. Blue Devils favored here by 4 points off that upset of Geneseo no doubt. Hope I'm wrong here but I think Ian Helps will be too much for Potsdam to handle.  Fredonia wins 70-65.


Oneonta State  at  Brockport State        4:00 PM

Oneonta better than I thought or I overrated Geneseo. Probably a little of both. Brockport missing top player Clifton Lyerly in last night's win over New Paltz. They didn't need him against the Hawks, but will against the Red Dragons. I'm still going with Brockport as Oneonta hasn't won in Tuttle North in years and a 2-0 west swing is so tough to do. Golden Eagles take it by a  75-71 score.


Buffalo State  at  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM

Featured Game of the Day   

Bengals with 6 straight wins equal their longest winning streak of last season. In fact it's their longest winning streak since they won 13 in a row during their Sweet 16 season of 2010-11.

Cardinals a younger team than Buffalo State will need big minutes from their first year players today, to match the Bengals intensity. Cardinals have their own winning streak of 4 straight will try and repeat some history as they halted the Bengals 6 game streak last year when they made their annual visit to Memorial Hall.

The Cardinals have had the best of the Bengals recently, winning 4 straight in this series and 5 of the last 6. But they are dead even at 8-8 over the past 8 years 

Surprised the oddsmakers have made the red hot Bengals a slight 4 point underdog here but I will concur with that assessment. Final score in another barnburner between these two rivals will be Plattsburgh 85 Buffalo State 82.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
Hmmm.  Some interesting predictions   I hope All Time is correct.

On another note.... A good friend of mine stooped by the "Music shop" to inquire about some music and magic. He heard a rather interesting story about Magicman, a turtle and a pitchfork. I can't WAIT to hear about this 1 from the magic 1!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
Plattsburgh comes from behind after Buffalo State comes from behind. Overtime was on the agenda and the Cardinals prevailed in the extra session by a final score of 98-91.

I sat with Kyle Richardson's dad. I think we were more worn out than Kyle was and he played 41 of the 45 minutes.

What a game. What an outcome.

Both teams played their hearts out. Too bad someone had to lose. The Cards won this battle but I'm sure there will be payback when they go to the Queen City.

Sometime over the next day or so I'll catch up with some write ups of the weekend games.

May not last for long, and may not be true when it's all said and done, but from now, until at least January 12

THE PLATTSBURGH STATE CARDINALS ARE IN 1ST PLACE ALL BY THEMSELVES WITH A 4-0 RECORD                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2016, 07:40:58 PM
Final score 

Oneonta State 78  Brockport State 68

It's official...the magicman has definitely underrated the Oneonta Red Dragons. But I'm still shaking my head over their last 2 losses.

All-Time may be right and a SUNYAC Final Four preview took place today with this game and the Plattsburgh-Buff State game. Somehow I think Cortland may still have something to say about that, though. This conference is still 7 teams deep and I wouldn't want to guess which team will be on the outside looking in come 6:00 PM on February 20th.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2016, 07:50:32 PM
Fredonia State 79 Potsdam State 69

The teams went back and forth and was still a single possession game with 1:06 to play. Blue Devils go 8x8 from the line inside the final minute to close out the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 09, 2016, 08:43:04 PM
Another disappointing result for the Golden Eagles against one of the higher tier teams at home. The team will have to put the week out of their memory and now go on the road!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2016, 09:13:46 PM
Geneseo State 71 New Paltz 67

Blue Knights almost lost a 3rd conference game in a row. Hawks came back from an 11 point halftime deficit to tie the game at 52 with 10 minutes to go. Still tied at 64 with only 1:19 to play the Knights got a pair of free throws and then after the Hawks came up empty, Geneseo got a big 3 pointer from John Decker with just 23 seconds left to go to put them up by 5 points. New Paltz missed another 3 pointer, fouled Decker again who made the pair and then the Hawks hit a triple at the buzzer to account for the final score.

Much closer than the Knights wanted it to be I'm sure. Geneseo gets their first conference win and the Hawks still looking for that breakthrough. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 09, 2016, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 09, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
THE PLATTSBURGH STATE CARDINALS ARE IN 1ST PLACE ALL BY THEMSELVES WITH A 4-0 RECORD                   

Wait... what? You lost me. Who is where? ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2016, 11:55:31 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 09, 2016, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 09, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
THE PLATTSBURGH STATE CARDINALS ARE IN 1ST PLACE ALL BY THEMSELVES WITH A 4-0 RECORD                   

Wait... what? You lost me. Who is where? ;)

Dave,
You now have to put Plattsburgh State on your "Radar". Pretty sure Massey will have them as the top ranked SUNYAC team when his rankings get updated after the weekend. I'm not happy with the 2 losses the Cardinals have but at least they were against decent teams Skidmore and Middlebury. Skidmore is sinking a bit because they have lost Medunjanin and he was such an integral part of their offense. Cards were flat in that game at Skidmore. The game at Middlebury was a variety of factors, most importantly missing our 2nd leading scorer (at the time) and top 3 point shooter and several other key players were out as well. Plus it was finals week and the players had their heads wrapped up in their studies.

I thought this team would be too young this year, to compete for the SUNYAC title. They lost a lot of talent to graduation which included 4 starters and their  top 5 rotation players in minutes per game. The coaching staff worked hard and brought in one of the best recruiting classes they have ever had. I hoped that by the time the SUNYAC tournament rolled around that the team might be good enough to win 3 games and snatch that automatic bid. Now I have hope that even if they lose the conference championship they may be good enough to get a Pool C bid. It's still early and there's a lot of basketball to be played yet but the recent 5 game winning streak that the team has strung together has witnessed the growth of many of those young players. The recent Florida trip saw the emergence of Jonathon Patron with back to back 20+ point nights, and another 29 points tonight against Buffalo State. A number of our newcomers were huge in a win earlier this week over previously ranked and last year's NESCAC regular season Champs, Trinity. Six of our new players (5 freshman and 1 sophomore) scored 41 combined points in that game to erase an 8 point deficit and win by an 81-73 final. And now they have gotten off to a nice start in the conference with wins against 2 of the top SUNYAC teams. Hopefully they can keep the momentum train rolling. We shall see, but I'm feeling good about my Cardinals right now.   

PS: The big red message was a couple of these  ;D :D for Bengalsrule who has been getting quite lively with his crayons on these pages recently. ;) He pulled a surprise visit on me today in Plattsburgh after telling me he wouldn't be here. After today's result between the Bengals and the Cardinals, I have bragging rights until they probably pay us back when we go to the Queen City for the rematch. Today's game was a classic and the crowd in Memorial Hall was treated to an outstanding effort by both teams. It's days like today that make my passion for DIII hoops what it is. 8-)

Nice Hoopsville show Thursday night, by the way. 8-)       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
First off... Massey isn't going to be something that will entice me to vote for a team. I have so many problems with his system that I use it as a guide to make sure I am not missing anyone, but not to rank them.

Second... I have at least half of the SUNYAC on my radar... don't worry. But that doesn't mean they should be ranked LOL.

And thanks for the comments about the show. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2016, 01:01:13 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
First off... Massey isn't going to be something that will entice me to vote for a team. I have so many problems with his system that I use it as a guide to make sure I am not missing anyone, but not to rank them.

I have a lot of problems with his system as well and I use it for the same reasons you do, as a guide since I have voted for years in the Posters' Poll. I enjoy looking at it though, as well as his conference rankings and projected wins and losses, among other things.

I was just pointing out that Plattsburgh is now (or will be, shortly) the top ranked SUNYAC school in his rankings and will probably be in the high 30's or low 40's. I also have seen at least 3 or 4 other SUNYAC schools with a ranking or points in the D3hoops poll and Plattsburgh hasn't received a point all year. (And I'm not saying they deserved to prior to this week.) But if any YAC school deserves a mention at this point, it should be Plattsburgh.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
Second... I have at least half of the SUNYAC on my radar... don't worry. But that doesn't mean they should be ranked LOL.

I agree half of the SUNYAC shouldn't be ranked. Just Plattsburgh, Buffalo State, and Oneonta. That's only 3 of 10 and less than a third. :D

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
And thanks for the comments about the show. :)

You're welcome...it was worth the price of admission. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
Wow.  Not much else to say about that game last night ( and the 7 hour drive home afterwards :'( ).  My Bengals dug themselves a huge hole, but as always, fought back and had a chance to win. 19 of 33 from the free throw hurts. Especially when I realize that 1 more free throw made during regulation and we win!  But last night it just wasn't in the"cards" for us!

Congrats to the Magicman ( and Mrs Magicman, whom the wife and I had an opportunity to meet), coach Curle and the Cardinals!  We had them down but not out. Ed Correa is still dangerous as ever and Kyle Richardson gets my vote for player of the week.  The round mound of rebound, Jon Patron, put in some heavy duty work! If I had to, I would have paid to watch a game like that last night. Gladly!!

Gotta love the Sunyac. Everyday it gets better and better. If this ain't a 3-bid conference then there's no snow coming to buffalo this week!! ;)

Go BENGALS.  Proud of dem boys!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 10, 2016, 01:01:13 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
And thanks for the comments about the show. :)

You're welcome...it was worth the price of admission.

Well being as it is free... you aren't exactly setting the bar very high there. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 10, 2016, 12:39:46 PM
I watched Bport-Oneonta game on video and people have sold the Dragons short. They are a solid squad that does not beat themselves. They got down early but kept chipping away with good fundamental team play. Yes, they were knocking down 3 pointers but many were open 3's off poorly defended screens. The last 3 minutes of the games they did the little things to finish, and my beloved Eagles couldn't. Still love the Eagles and hopefully will become the team I think they are!!! Congrats to the Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2016, 12:37:15 AM
     Call me encouraged, after getting back to Buffalo (and the wife sleeping 5 of the 7 hours on the road  :'(), and  reviewing yesterdays game. 2nd half could have been really ugly, being down 17 pts at the 15:12 mark and down 15 pts at the 13:22 mark of the 2nd period, I'm convinced that other teams would have folded up shop at the point and just accepted the a-s whuppin!!  But my BENGALS fought back and took the lead, when in the past they may have just folded the tent. Heck, when the wife and I arrived in Plattsburgh, we first stopped at a Mcdonalds ( I was starving after 2 and a half hour ride from Albany NY), before we went to Memorial Hall.   At Mcd's., there was a guy sitting next to us who had just finished reading the days edition of the Plattsburgh PRESS REPUBLICAN news paper . I asked him could I see it. Sports section, page 1, Front page center, is a picture of Xavier Thomas going to basket against Fredonia the night before,  with a big BOLD head line "ITS A ROUT" (damn I wish we got that kind of coverage in Buffalo)). Getting thrashed at Memorial Hall is nothing new to many. Heck last year, and the year before, Buff State lost by 15 points in their annual visit to Plattsburgh.  That's what the Cards do at home...and usually on the road. They beat the hell out of you. That's why they have gone to "THE DANCE", 2 of the past 3 years. Their first 4 wins at home this year were by an average of 16.5 pts a game!!

    Fortunately we got 44 points from the bench with Kevin Marmolejos getting 22 and another 18 from Redell Freeman or this game could have gotten ugly! . That performance was duly noted by the Plattsburgh Coach when he was quoted in the Plattsburgh Press-Republican when he said... "That little guard (Freeman) killed us, (Marmolejos) was hitting threes and (Lovell Smith) was playing well. It was a three-man band. Those three guys were killing us, but that's what happens when you let down defensively. Good players are going to get their confidence."-Tom Curle.  Lovell Smith is the only starter from yesterdays game that was  mentioned. And understandably so. I gotta think that that's gonna motivate the rest of our starters and our team moving forward. I gotta believe that starters Nico McLean, Mike Henry, Jordan Glover and Jordan Chateau, and the rest of the team, believe that the "band" is bigger than 3! Fortunately in SUNYAC you get another (13) game(s) to get it right. 20 turnovers, out-rebounded 45-43, 57% from the charity stripe (19-33) and we still had a chance to win. Saturday, Plattsburgh was the better team.

   Brockport is next up and If I know my Bengals like I think that I know them...they will be ready. They've had a loooong bus ride (7-8 hours) to let this game soak in. Now they have 5 days before Brockport comes to town, for a 2nd bite at the Bengals apple. I wouldn't trade these guys in for all the tea in Starbucks. God knows that this 1 hurt, but I know that they are moving forward and next up are the Golden Eagles, which is the only game that matters at 1300 Elmwood ave. In the Sunyac you don't have much time to sulk because the next team up can do what the last team did....or worse. To quote Pg04  "Its a Jungle out there"  - SUNYAC Style! ;)

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2016, 12:48:26 AM
Massey update (since magicman seems to be asleep at the wheel).

Oneonta moves up 49 spots to #30
Plattsburgh up 23 to #36
Cortland up 28 to #61
Buffalo State up 42 to # 62
Oswego dropped 17 to 69!

5 teams in the top 17% of D3 schools!!  I know that Massey is what it is, but with just Massey and d3 hoops rankings (plus wisdom from Dave, Darryl and others), it at least gives me something to look at late Sunday night when the NFL games are over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2016, 02:35:22 AM
Saturday January 9th

Plattsburgh State 98  Buffalo State 91 in OT


The fans at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh got quite a treat today, when these two teams hooked up in another classic battle, like so many previous editions, in this ongoing series. The electricity was in the air even before the opening tip off as both teams knew what the implications of this game, may have down the road. I was in a quandary while trying to make my prediction and my crystal ball was not helping one bit. It was whispering Cardinals but emitting a glow that was definitely orangish in color. I went with the Cardinals to win 85-82 and as the clock wound down in regulation and the score stood at 84-81 with 20 seconds to play it looked like my projected score was almost perfect with one minor exception....the 84 was lit up on the visitors side of the scoreboard.

The game started out with the Bengals breaking on top off a pair of early layups by Nico McLean and Mike Henry. The Cards went 0 for 2 with their first 2 possessions but Magic Griggg righted the ship and Plattsburgh was off and running. The game was tied at 4 apiece and again at 6 but then the Cardinals put together a stretch of 8 unanswered points, starting with a layup by point guard Zack Coleman, an Ed Correa 3 pointer, and 3 points from Kyle Richardson on a layup and later a free throw .

The Bengals responded not with points from a bevy of Bengals, but by inserting former SUNYAC Player of the Week, Kevin Marmolejos into the game. Kevin is the player who broke the single game Buffalo State record for 3 pointers, with 10 triples against Hobart back in November. He wasted little time in displaying his wares against Plattsburgh. Less than a minute after entering the game he hit a jumper for a deuce and after a Plattsburgh turnover, 15 seconds later, he buried the first of his game high, 6 three pointers. Less than a minute after that he drained another one.

Plattsburgh answered with rising star, freshman Jonathan Patron, who entered the game at the 14 minute mark and promptly reeled off 7 straight points for the Cardinals to put them back in front by a 21-16 score.

Plattsburgh's leading scorer, Kyle Richardson, who leads the SUNYAC with 12.4 rebounds per game, which is also the 5th best average per game, in the nation, then put on a clinic as he scored 14 of the next 15 Cardinal points from all over the floor, culminating in a three pointer to put Plattsburgh up by double digits at 36-25 with 4:17 left in the half. When Patron hit a jumper followed by a three pointer with 2:38 on the clock, the Cardinals had their largest lead of the period at 44-28. The Bengals cut into that lead but were still down by double digits at 46-35 at the break. It was somewhat of a perfect storm for the Cardinals as they shot over 60% from the field and from long distance.

The 2nd half saw the Cardinals open with a 10-4 run when Correa buried another 3 pointer to make the score 56-39 and establish the largest lead of the game. It was at that point in the game that I reminded the Plattsburgh faithful, seated near me, that I've watched the Bengals fight back from deficits all year long and that their pressing, trapping defense is capable of wiping out a lead like ours in short order.

Buffalo State was still down by 17 points at 60-43 with 15:12 on the clock. Five minutes later a Mike Henry layup, had reduced that lead to 66-61 and a short time later his 2nd of 3 consecutive inside baskets, turned that once, comfortable, 17 point lead, into a single possession advantage.

The Bengals have a 5' 9" sophomore guard by the name of Redell Freeman, who I'm just going to call "The Flash" from now on, because he is the fastest man alive, or at the very least the fastest guy in the SUNYAC. He also has a gift for getting the ball in the basket while driving the lane among the trees that reside there. He always comes in off the bench and yesterday he scored 18 points in 19 minutes. He had 8 points in the run that cut the Bengals deficit down to 3 points. When Kevin Marmolejos hit another one of his three pointers, to give Buffalo State their first lead since the early stages of the opening period, Freeman followed that with 4 straight free throws, to put the Bengals up 77-74 with 4:47 to go.

With the game officially in barnburner status,  the teams traded punches and when Freeman stole the ball and  Lovell Smith took it in for a layup and one, to increase the Bengal lead to 84-78 with 1:58 remaining, I was resigning myself to the fact, that the Cards had blown a 17 point lead at home, and gave one away. I mentioned to those around me that I was praying for overtime, but knew we were going to need some deep threes to get there. Enter Mr. Correa...who promptly proceeded to drain one of his specialties on the Cardinals next possession. The Bengals came down and went inside to Henry who missed the layup, got the rebound and was fouled. He went to the line and I waved my magic wand...twice..and the Bengals failed to increase their lead. The Cardinals missed a 3 point attempt, but the Bengals turned it over. Plattsburgh missed another 3 point attempt, got the offensive rebound but they turned it over and now there was 47 seconds to go. With 26 ticks remaining the Bengals turned it over once more, and Correa scored again, on a mid range jumper, and the lead was down to a single point, but only 12 seconds remained. Looking to quickly foul on the inbounds pass, the Cardinals got surprised when Freeman (I think it was) threw a touchdown pass downcourt to Lovell Smith, who hammered it home for the easy dunk. Eschewing a time out, (great move by Coach Curle) the Cardinals inbounded the ball quickly and got it over to Kyle Richardson who drained the tying 3 pointer with 5 seconds left. The Bengals hustled the ball upcourt under pressure and a final long shot from the left side was off the mark and we were headed to bonus basketball...the magicwand was working and I got my wish.

Both teams had several chances to grab the lead in the extra session. Plattsburgh controlled the tip but missed their first field goal attempt, and the Bengals did likewise. The Cardinals missed their 2nd shot and Buffalo State followed suit. Plattsburgh had their 3rd shot blocked but collared the loose ball only to turn it over. The Bengals were fouled and went to the line necessitating the magicman to wave his magic wand 2 more times forcing the Bengals to come up empty. Buffalo State grabbed the rebound of the 2nd missed free throw however, but a turnover gave the ball to the Cardinals and this time Richardson would score after 2:10  of the extra period had gone by. The Bengals made another trip to the line, cashing in on 1 of 2 and then Ed Correa came down and hit a huge three pointer to make it a 91-87, two possession lead. Mike Henry scored for the Bengals and Correa came right back with the dagger to the heart as he buried his 5th three pointer of the day. A pair of Nico McLean free throws cut the lead to 94-91 with 1:18 to play but that was as close as the Bengals got as Jon Patron scored inside. When Buffalo State missed on their next attempt, Patron was fouled and made 1 of 2. The Bengals missed again and Zack Coleman went to the line to put the final point on the board. When the Bengals missed with 23 seconds left they called off the dogs and Plattsburgh dribbled the clock out to claim the hard fought win.                   

The Cardinals placed 4 players in double figures led by their powerful inside duo of Jon Patron with 29 points (10x11 fg, 1x2 3's, 8x10 ft) and Kyle Richardson with 28 points (11x20 fg's, 2x4 3's, 4x8 ft).Patron led all scorers in the game  and Richardson's 13 rebounds, good for his 7th double-double in 10 games, tied the game high for rebounds. Kyle, coming off another double-double against Fredonia on Friday night, has put up big numbers this week, in Plattsburgh's pair of weekend wins and is the leading candidate for Player of the Week honors once again.  Kyle also had 3 assists and 2 steals in the game while Jon had 8 rebounds and 2 assists in his 29 minutes of court time off the bench.

What's amazing is Kyle Richardson almost didn't make the games this weekend after a nasty fall in practice early in the week that left him with a dislocated little finger. With a heavily bandaged left hand,he missed the Tuesday win over Trinity College, but told me on that night, there was no way he would miss the weekend games. True to his word he not only didn't miss them, he carried the team once again.

Eddie Correa didn't have the most points in this game but nobody had bigger baskets at more opportune times than he did. (well maybe Kyle..his were pretty well timed also) Eddie had 19 points (6x14 fg, 5x13 3's, 2x4 ft) 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. At one point late in regulation, when a Buff State player was at the line, Eddie and Kevin Marmolejos were at the other end of the court under the Plattsburgh basket talking to each other. It seemed like friendly banter as they both had smiles on their faces, but I wondered if they were engaged in a bit of friendly trash talking about their respective 3 point shooting. Kevin won the battle with 6 triples to 5 for Eddie, but Eddie definitely won the war, with his long range bombs coming when they did, near the end of regulation and the pair he had in overtime.

Point guard Zack Coleman added 10 points (2x6 fg, 0x1 3's, 6x9 ft), 6 assists, 5 rebounds and 2 steals.

The X-Man, Xavier Thomas, showed why he is the leading shot blocker in the SUNYAC coming out of nowhere  with an amazing block on a 3 point attempt of Kevin Marmolejos with 5 minutes left in the game. I've called Xavier the  X-man ever since his first year with the Cardinals, not just because his name starts with an X, but mainly because his ability to jump out of the gym is freakish and resembles a super power, like all members of Professor Charles Xavier's band of mutants, the X-Men, of Marvel Comic Book fame. I'm willing to bet there is probably not another conference in the country where a 6'2" guard is the leading shot blocker. On Saturday afternoon the Cardinals' X-Man had 5 blocks. He also scored 7 points, had 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

The Cardinals had an excellent night shooting the rock as they topped the Bengals in all 3 areas. Plattsburgh was 33x59 from the field (55.9%), 9x22 from behind the arc (40.9%), and 23x37 from the stripe (62.2%).

Buffalo State was 33x77 from the field (42.9%), 6x20 from long distance (30%), all made by Kevin Marmolejos, and 19x33 from the line (57.6%).

The Cardinals held a slim edge off the glass, grabbing 45 rebounds to 42 for the Bengals. A surprising statistic was the large margin in turnovers and the winner of that battle. Buffalo State had 20 turnovers, but the Cardinals handed the ball over to their opponents on 30 occasions in this game resulting in 40 points scored by the Bengals off those turnovers. That usually results in a victory.

The Bengals had 5 guys in double figures led by Nico McLean's 3rd double-double of the season with 18 points (6x15 fg, 0x2 3's, 6x11 ft)  and 13 rebounds. The 13 rebounds matched the Cardinals' Kyle Richardson for game honors. It was also his highest total of the season and the most of his college career. He also had 3 steals and a pair of assists.     

Buffalo State got 2 huge efforts from their bench as Kevin Marmolejos had 22 points on the strength of his 6X12 effort from downtown. He was 8x18 overall with 2 steals 1 rebound and 1 assist. Redell Freeman also gave the Bengals some valuable minutes as he totaled 18 points (5x10 fg, 8x10 ft), 3 rebounds, 3 assists. and 3 steals in 19 minutes of court time. The points, and steals were career highs as a Bengal and his 3 assists equaled his previous high water mark.

Mike Henry had another big game as he dropped in 17 points (7x14 fg, 0x1 3's, 3x8 ft), grabbed 7 boards, had 3 assists and 3 steals. The MVP of the recent Coach's vs Cancer Tournament held at Lehman College, that was won by the Bengals, this guy, only a sophomore, could wind up as a future SUNYAC Player of the Year.

Lovell Smith added 10 points (4x9 fg, 2x4 ft) 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks. Jordan Glover only scored 2 points but led the team with 5 assists, and also had 3 steals with 2 rebounds.

It won't surprise me when if there is a different outcome the next time these 2 teams meet in the Queen City just 18 days from now on January 29th.       
                           

Plattsburgh State extends their winning streak to 5 games and improves to 9-2 overall (4-0 in the YAC). Their undefeated conference record will be put to a big test next weekend, when they go back on the road to face Oswego on Friday night at 7:30 PM. Then they take on the only remaining undefeated team in the conference, the Cortland Red Dragons, on Saturday at 4 PM. Cortland does have a game tomorrow night at 6:00 PM when they host Geneseo, so it's possible they may have a blemish on that conference record, by the time their meeting with Plattsburgh take place.

Buffalo State has their winning streak stopped at 6 games as history repeats itself here in the North Country. Their longest winning streak of last season, also 6 games, came to an end in Memorial Hall last January. The Bengals are now 9-3 overall and 3-2 in the conference. They will host the other 2 western New York teams next weekend, meeting Brockport on Friday at 7:30, only 10 days after their meeting of this past Tuesday. Geneseo invades the Sports Arena on Saturday afternoon at 4 PM.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2016, 02:47:44 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 10, 2016, 01:01:13 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 10, 2016, 12:11:59 AM
And thanks for the comments about the show. :)

You're welcome...it was worth the price of admission.

Well being as it is free... you aren't exactly setting the bar very high there. LOL

Well Dave, that depends on what you consider free. It's usually around a 2 hour show and my time is worth at least $25.00 an hour. (That's what I charge at my business for repairs)  So I figure it costs me $50 bucks to watch Hoopsville and it's worth the price of admission. Looking at it from that angle ...well, that raises the bar considerably now doesn't it?  ;)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2016, 08:44:51 AM
Outstanding ....ugh.... replay of the game, Magicman.  I could not have described it better myself ( minus the "magic wand" and stuff  ;)!!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 11, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
SUNYAC POW should be Lawrence Coleman of the Red Hot Oneonta Red Dragons.
Oneonta goes 2-0 in beating Geneseo and Brockport on the road.
22 points and 11 rebounds against Geneseo and 33 points and 9 rebounds against Brockport.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2016, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 11, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
SUNYAC POW should be Lawrence Coleman of the Red Hot Oneonta Red Dragons.
Oneonta goes 2-0 in beating Geneseo and Brockport on the road.
22 points and 11 rebounds against Geneseo and 33 points and 9 rebounds against Brockport.

All-Time.....Ask and you shall receive.........

MEN'S BASKETBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK – Lawrence Coleman (JR) 
Oneonta, Forward (Croton-on-Hudson, NY/Hendrick Hudson)
Led Oneonta to a 3-0 record last week including a weekend sweep at Geneseo and Brockport. Scored 67 points for the week including a career high 33 points in a come-from-behind win against Brockport. He scored the final 14 points of the game versus Brockport during a 21-6 run that gave the Red Dragons the win.

Just posted on Sunyac boards!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 02:50:57 AM
Top 25 is out and 2 new schools get some Sunyac love!  Oneonta and Cortland chime in ( cortland went from 0 to 20 votes in a week). Oswego gets a little less love and my Bengals along with Geneseo are no where to be found. Thought that I would see the Cards somewhere but in 5 days they face both the Cortland Red Dragons and Oswego Lakers so this time next week there could be some more changes! 

  That's 5 Sunyac schools that have gotten at least a glimpse with Oswego being the standard bearer. Something tells me that Dave has been true to his word! 'Yac is getting some "rec"(ognition).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 05:11:17 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 11, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
SUNYAC POW should be Lawrence Coleman of the Red Hot Oneonta Red Dragons.
Oneonta goes 2-0 in beating Geneseo and Brockport on the road.
22 points and 11 rebounds against Geneseo and 33 points and 9 rebounds against Brockport.

I have to agree with that. I initially looked at the Oswego game and then the Geneseo game and didn't think those 2 games were better than Kyle Richardson's 2 weekend games. I didn't know about the 33 point 9 rebound effort against Brockport at the time I stated that Kyle was the leading candidate for the POTW. I'm still trying to play catchup from the past weekend.

I see from reading more posts that Lawrence did in fact win the weekly award.

Congratulations to him on a great stretch to lead the Red Dragons to a 3-0 week, especially against the 3 teams that he played. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 06:10:26 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 02:50:57 AM
Top 25 is out and 2 new schools get some Sunyac love!  Oneonta and Cortland chime in ( cortland went from 0 to 20 votes in a week). Oswego gets a little less love and my Bengals along with Geneseo are no where to be found. Thought that I would see the Cards somewhere but in 5 days they face both the Cortland Red Dragons and Oswego Lakers so this time next week there could be some more changes! 

  That's 5 Sunyac schools that have gotten at least a glimpse with Oswego being the standard bearer. Something tells me that Dave has been true to his word! 'Yac is getting some "rec"(ognition).

Still not a single mention for the team that's in 1st place in the conference. I'm not complaining, just pointing out what seems to be a bit of an aberration. Last week neither Cortland, Oneonta or Plattsburgh received a single point in the poll. Since then, Cortland plays 1 game, a blowout of the last place team in the conference and they get 20 points and are unofficially in the 31st spot. Plattsburgh goes 3-0, defeats Trinity College, a team that was ranked as high as #15, defeats Buffalo State, a team that was getting votes last week and also beats Fredonia State by a 32 point margin. The Cardinals don't receive a single point. They are 9-2 overall, 4-0 in the SUNYAC, alone in 1st place, own a road win over Oneonta (by 18 points) and have defended their home court (5-0).

I notice Scranton is #24 this week having dropped from the #21 spot. One of their 3 losses was at home to visiting Hobart. Buffalo State and Brockport State both beat Hobart and the Bengals did so by 20 points. Did I mention that Plattsburgh beat Buff State, who beat Hobart, who beat Scranton? I thought so. :)

I could point out a number of other teams that are receiving votes that I think are less deserving than Plattsburgh but I actually don't mind that my Cardinals are getting snubbed. I figure if things hold serve like they have, then the minute they get some love, they'll probably lose, just like every other YAC team has done when they have received votes or made it into the Top 25 (See Oswego ...twice)

Tough road trip for Plattsburgh this week at Oswego and Cortland. Glad we didn't get any votes since it seems to be a jinx. :D  I'm hoping we can win the first one against the Lakers so that Saturday's game will be 2 undefeated teams slugging it out for 1st place. (Unless Geneseo beats Cortland tonight or Potsdam wants to surprise everyone and pull off the upset against the Red Dragons on Friday night. I wouldn't mind that at all. ;))       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:12:39 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
Wow.  Not much else to say about that game last night ( and the 7 hour drive home afterwards :'( ).  My Bengals dug themselves a huge hole, but as always, fought back and had a chance to win.

The Bengal players have nothing to worry about. Any team that can come from behind like they can will be just fine. And they really didn't dig themselves a huge hole, the Cardinals were pretty hot in the first half. Shooting over 60% usually means you have a decent lead. Many teams get down 17 points and they pack it in, but not this Buffalo State team. Watching them overcome a 9 point deficit against New Jersey City with under 2 minutes to go in overtime and send it to another extra session for the win was all the proof I needed, that the Cardinals 17 point lead wasn't safe. The Bengals once again overcame that obstacle and took the lead.

There is one thing I believe that cost Buffalo State the game and it's something I witnessed in the New jersey City game and also against Plattsburgh. Both times at the end of regulation the Bengals allowed the opponents to get off a 3 point shot which they made and sent those games into overtime. Neither team should have been allowed to even take those three point shots. It almost cost you the game against New Jersey City and didn't, only because they did the same thing and allowed Buffalo State to get off a  game tying 3 pointer in the first overtime. But it did cost you against the Cardinals

You have to foul in those situations. You can't lose if they shoot free throws. When Lovell Smith got the touchdown pass from Redell Freeman and scored to go up by 3 points with under 10 seconds left, the Bengals should have fouled on the inbounds pass and put the Cardinals on the line. I'm convinced you win the game if you do that. I hope going forward that if that situation presents itself again, that the Bengals go with the odds and foul rather than let the opponents fire up another game tying 3 pointer. Don't let it burn you again. 

Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
Congrats to the Magicman ( and Mrs Magicman, whom the wife and I had an opportunity to meet)

It was a bit of a surprise to see you on Saturday, but not really a big one. You see, I told my wife that I found it hard to believe, knowing you have orange blood, that you were going to be in Albany and wouldn't just shoot up the Northway to catch the game. I knew that a silver tongued devil like yourself, would probably be able to talk Mrs. Bengalsrule into going along with a slight change of plans, that would mean a side trip to the 'Burgh. It was probably when you told her, that she would get a chance to meet the magicman, that finally convinced her to go along with your little scheme. How could she turn that down!! ???

Anyway I'm glad you met Mrs. magicman after all this time. She and I were both happy to meet Mrs Bengalsrule as well. It's nice to put a face on a name. It looks like we are both extremely lucky guys and chose wisely. 8-)

You have 2 tough games this weekend as we do, but at least yours are at home. Good luck.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2016, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 06:10:26 AM
Still not a single mention for the team that's in 1st place in the conference.

That's four games and the voters prefer to measure with all 11. (Also, 11 games is not a lot to have played by this time.)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:12:39 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
Wow.  Not much else to say about that game last night ( and the 7 hour drive home afterwards :'( ).  My Bengals dug themselves a huge hole, but as always, fought back and had a chance to win.

The Bengal players have nothing to worry about. Any team that can come from behind like they can will be just fine. And they really didn't dig themselves a huge hole, the Cardinals were pretty hot in the first half. Shooting over 60% usually means you have a decent lead. Many teams get down 17 points and they pack it in, but not this Buffalo State team. Watching them overcome a 9 point deficit against New Jersey City with under 2 minutes to go in overtime and send it to another extra session for the win was all the proof I needed, that the Cardinals 17 point lead wasn't safe. The Bengals once again overcame that obstacle and took the lead.

There is one thing I believe that cost Buffalo State the game and it's something I witnessed in the New jersey City game and also against Plattsburgh. Both times at the end of regulation the Bengals allowed the opponents to get off a 3 point shot which they made and sent those games into overtime. Neither team should have been allowed to even take those three point shots. It almost cost you the game against New Jersey City and didn't, only because they did the same thing and allowed Buffalo State to get off a  game tying 3 pointer in the first overtime. But it did cost you against the Cardinals

You have to foul in those situations. You can't lose if they shoot free throws. When Lovell Smith got the touchdown pass from Redell Freeman and scored to go up by 3 points with under 10 seconds left, the Bengals should have fouled on the inbounds pass and put the Cardinals on the line. I'm convinced you win the game if you do that. I hope going forward that if that situation presents itself again, that the Bengals go with the odds and foul rather than let the opponents fire up another game tying 3 pointer. Don't let it burn you again. 

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference"!   I learned that 23 years ago.

    One thing that lets me sleep good at night is never 2nd guess Coach Ansari! I have no desire to ever suggest how to play the last 4 seconds to coach Ansari or any of the other Bengals coaches!  I know there philosophy has been and always will be "get a stop". Always has been, always will be! Sometimes it works ( on most occasions it does) sometimes it doesn't.  I know that the Bengal staff is more concerned about going 19 of 33 from the charity stripe because that's something that they have more control over! If they go 20 for 33 then we don't have this conversation.

    Something tells me that when my Bengals get back together today, coach Ansari will touch on the good and bad from the past weekends game for about 2 mins. And then focus the next 118 mins on getting ready for Brockport!  That's just the way things are done at 1300 Elmwood ave. and too be honest...I love it just like that!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 12:07:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:12:39 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 10, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
Congrats to the Magicman ( and Mrs Magicman, whom the wife and I had an opportunity to meet)

It was a bit of a surprise to see you on Saturday, but not really a big one. You see, I told my wife that I found it hard to believe, knowing you have orange blood, that you were going to be in Albany and wouldn't just shoot up the Northway to catch the game. I knew that a silver tongued devil like yourself, would probably be able to talk Mrs. Bengalsrule into going along with a slight change of plans, that would mean a side trip to the 'Burgh. It was probably when you told her, that she would get a chance to meet the magicman, that finally convinced her to go along with your little scheme. How could she turn that down!! ???

Anyway I'm glad you met Mrs. magicman after all this time. She and I were both happy to meet Mrs Bengalsrule as well. It's nice to put a face on a name. It looks like we are both extremely lucky guys and chose wisely. 8-)

You have 2 tough games this weekend as we do, but at least yours are at home. Good luck.       

Yes the Mrs was excited to meet the Magicman but MORE excited to meet Mrs Magicman!  I'm so glad that mrs Bengalsrule heard mrs Magicman talk about finding Magicman asleep at the computer  in the wee hours of the night.  I'm grateful too because now my wife knows that I'm not the only 1 who posts at 2 a.m. :-[.  Something tells me that the Mrs will share notes again in the future!

2 1/2 hour ride to Plattsburgh and then a 7 plus hour drive home to Buffalo afterwards, isnt my idea of how best to spend a Saturday, in Jan, however for my Bengals...it was worth with. Win or lose, those boys make a fella proud. Saturday wasn't any different!

P.s.  I guess that I'll never hear the story about the turtle and the pitchfork???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 12:37:03 PM
Games on tap for the night
Brockport at Oswego a game that ill be attending but I like Oswego in a close low scoring game 62-58

Geneseo at Cortland I like Geneseo to win and get back on track 75-73. I think Geneseo is a very good team and i dont know what has been going on lately with them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 12, 2016, 02:07:17 PM
Cortland over Geneseo in a close one

Brockport all over Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 12:37:03 PM
Games on tap for the night
Brockport at Oswego a game that ill be attending but I like Oswego in a close low scoring game 62-58

Geneseo at Cortland I like Geneseo to win and get back on track 75-73. I think Geneseo is a very good team and i dont know what has been going on lately with them.

Good to hear from young mr Cahill again!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
You should check the E8 football boards. I declared Buff State the football national champs  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 12, 2016, 02:07:17 PM
Cortland over Geneseo in a close one

Brockport all over Oswego

Hmm 2 completely different predictions.  This ought to be fun!  All-Time meet dcahill44!!
Magicman should be coming on soon! 2 good games indeed!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
You should check the E8 football boards. I declared Buff State the football national champs  ;D

You did WHAT?????  I hope those Fisher guys don't know where you live.  If so....it's gonna hurt!!!!

Fear not, I got your back!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 12, 2016, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 12:37:03 PM
Games on tap for the night
Brockport at Oswego a game that ill be attending but I like Oswego in a close low scoring game 62-58

Geneseo at Cortland I like Geneseo to win and get back on track 75-73. I think Geneseo is a very good team and i dont know what has been going on lately with them.

Good to hear from young mr Cahill again!!

Make sure you listen to Hoopsville Thursday night... Mr. Cahill gets a shoutout LOL... and no, that's all the information you get.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 05:50:59 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
You should check the E8 football boards. I declared Buff State the football national champs  ;D

You did WHAT?????  I hope those Fisher guys don't know where you live.  If so....it's gonna hurt!!!!

Fear not, I got your back!! ;)

They get enough football pub! Need to stick up for the SUNYAC brethren!  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 06:00:45 PM
Too busy today to spend much time here.

Two games tonight  1 starting in 5 minutes.

I'll take the home team Red Dragons who are favored by 5 points in this matchup. Last 3 years the teams have each won at home. I think that will continue. Cortland wins this one by an 83-79 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2016, 06:31:31 PM
Geneseo on J. Decker 3-pter at the buzzer leads Cortland 36-35 at intermission. Tight one. Geneseo shoots 50 percent from the field and holds 33-28 lead -- largest by either side. RDragons return for 35-34 edge on S. Martinez bucket before Decker trey. Cortland hitting at 40 percent from the field, outboarding the guests 21-12

J. Ringen 9 pts for Geneseo. C. Joseph 10 pts(5x9fg) for Corts. B. Estarfaa scoreless (0-1fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 06:40:32 PM
Brockport State  at Oswego State     7:30 PM

Both of these teams need a win tonight in the worst way as they each come into this game with a 1-2 conference record. Whoever leaves Laker Hall tonight with a 3rd YAC loss this early in the season will have put a big hurt on their chances of a top seed in the playoffs. Both teams coming into this game off a loss and in a highly unusual twist of fate both teams are coming into the contest with a double digit loss against the same team...the Oneonta Red Dragons. Oneonta beat Oswego last Tuesday night by a 90-52 pasting and the Lakers haven't played since. Over the weekend Oneonta played Geneseo and then Brockport. They defeated Brockport by a 78-68 score to own the distinction mentioned above. Oneonta didn't leave Geneseo out of the equation either, as they are the last team to beat the Knights and also did it by a double digit margin of  76-65.   

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 5 point favorite and I'm inclined to go along with that. Both of these teams return a big part of their starting lineups from a year ago. And last year the Lakers seemed to have the Golden Eagles number as they won both games and the one in Max Zeil Gym was a 15 point win. I think Port will keep it closer this year  but see the Lakers winning this one by a 73-69 final score to get back on the winning path. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 12, 2016, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 12:37:03 PM
Games on tap for the night
Brockport at Oswego a game that ill be attending but I like Oswego in a close low scoring game 62-58

Geneseo at Cortland I like Geneseo to win and get back on track 75-73. I think Geneseo is a very good team and i dont know what has been going on lately with them.

Good to hear from young mr Cahill again!!

Make sure you listen to Hoopsville Thursday night... Mr. Cahill gets a shoutout LOL... and no, that's all the information you get.
Already heard dave haha the secrets out!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:22:20 PM
Tight one continues in Cortland as Geneseo continues to lead by a slim margin 66-64   with 3:56 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:26:46 PM
Geneseo up by 6 but Cortland scores 5 straight points to close within 1 at 70-69 with 1:51 to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:35:10 PM
Tie game at 73 with 53 seconds left and Geneseo with the ball coming out of a time out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:37:51 PM
2 free throws by John Decker give the Knights a 75-73 lead. 26 seconds left and Cortland with the ball and a time out. Do or die time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:40:03 PM
Red Dragons waste little time as Blair Estarfaa buries a three ball with 17 seconds left. Geneseo with the ball and a time out, down 76-75. This could be the last possession of the game coming up. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:42:10 PM
Decker buries a 2 point jumper to give the Knights the lead with 5 seconds left. Cortland comes down and Estarfaa gets knocked to the floor but no call and Geneseo walks off with the win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2016, 07:44:52 PM

Magic's on top of things ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 07:45:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:42:10 PM
Decker buries a 2 point jumper to give the Knights the lead with 5 seconds left. Cortland comes down and Estarfaa gets knocked to the floor but no call and Geneseo walks off with the win.

I attempted to find last second video but was unsuccessful using this or Cortland's site.  :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:57:13 PM
There was no video only live stats and a radio broadcast that was 30 seconds behind the live stats. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:57:13 PM
There was no video only live stats and a radio broadcast that was 30 seconds behind the live stats. :D

The Oswego video feed now seems to be behind the scoreboard on the screen. lol, can't win them all.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: iwumichigander on January 12, 2016, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2016, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 06:10:26 AM
Still not a single mention for the team that's in 1st place in the conference.

That's four games and the voters prefer to measure with all 11. (Also, 11 games is not a lot to have played by this time.)
Umm, would not most of the top 25 have played only 11 games (on average)?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2016, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: iwumichigander on January 12, 2016, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2016, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 06:10:26 AM
Still not a single mention for the team that's in 1st place in the conference.

That's four games and the voters prefer to measure with all 11. (Also, 11 games is not a lot to have played by this time.)
Umm, would not most of the top 25 have played only 11 games (on average)?

Most of the Top 25 have played 12, 13 or 14 games at the time the poll was taken, so I understand Pat's point, somewhat. What's funny is Cortland, Geneseo, and Oswego had all played less games than Plattsburgh when the poll was taken. Those 3 teams had each played 10 games. ;D  Plattsburgh had also played more conference games than any of them. My point was teams that are in first place in their respective conferences are usually the teams getting some love in the polls, unless the conference is so weak that no one is getting any mention. In the case of the SUNYAC there have been 5 other teams with a mention in the polls and Plattsburgh has a valid reason to get mentioned as much or more than all 5 of them. Over the past 10 years Plattsburgh has been to the NCAA tournament 6 times, made the Sweet 16 twice and won a first round game on several other occasions. No other team in the East region, not just the SUNYAC, has a better record over that time span. I always hear how other schools have such a solid program and get voter support in part because of their history but I haven't seen Plattsburgh benefit from their success over that time frame.

As I said earlier, it doesn't bother me that Plattsburgh is being ignored. Getting some votes would probably be the kiss of death. Cortland makes their initial entry into the Others Receiving Votes this week and promptly loses at home tonight against Geneseo. That leaves only my Cardinals with an undefeated record in the SUNYAC. ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 08:45:26 PM
The word "ignored" seems a little strong. I'm sure some, like Dave, have them on their proverbial "radar." If Plattsburgh gets through the week, though, this could be the week with Cortland losing.

-- but if the premise of being ignored is motivation, they should definitely use it!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 09:23:40 PM
I lost the video and couldn't get it back but according to live stats Brockport made a shot in the last seconds to tie the game and send the game to overtime...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 09:35:33 PM
If Livestats is right, Brockport wins 77-67! An important win for sure for the Golden Eagles. Their FT percentage much improved in this game. Also held Oswego to 2 points in the extra session.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 12, 2016, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 07:57:13 PM
There was no video only live stats and a radio broadcast that was 30 seconds behind the live stats. :D

Generally have always found live stats to be ahead of video and/or audio

Geneseo tonight shoots over 50 percent from the field, Cortland just under 40 and does little from 3-point range till late and has many more FTs but fails to take full advantage. RDragons do hold the boards. Guest J. Decker with 25 points including clutch closing marks. He and J. Ringen carefully defend over the final minutes with four fouls apiece. Ringen fouls out at 0:59 with 17 pts(7x14fg), 9 rebs. Cortland's C. Joseph with 14 pts(7x14fg) and 10 rebs. M. Kelly with 11 pts(4x5fg, 3x3 3s); B. Estarfaa 12 pts after shutout in opening 20 minutes. JP Reagan with 9 pts(2x3 3s) in very limited play!(??).

Gens on the verge of pulling away on several second half occasions but never able to skate the home side. Hold 70-64 edge when Reagan delivers trey at 2:21 to cut it to 70-67. J. Cooper FTS bring Corts within one at 1:59. Ringen FT at 1:42 widens it to two. Reagan 'three' gives Cortland 72-71 lead at 1:26. C. Zaepfel FT pair provides Geneseo reversal at 1:16. Reagan FT ties it at 0:59. Decker FTs send Geneseo ahead 75-73 at 0:39. Estarfaa 3-pter at 0:18 puts Cortland ahead and sets up Decker's winner at 0:07.

Cortland/Geneseo do it again next Tuesday in Gen country
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 12, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Sorry, no video tonight, and sorry to Magicman, no video or audio for games here Friday or Saturday vs. Potsdam and Plattsburgh. Just live stats. A little shorthanded during the intersession break. Tentative plan is to have basketball video this semester for Oneonta, Buffalo St., Fredonia, Brockport and Oswego games (but not New Paltz due to conflict with another home event).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 12, 2016, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: FranElia on January 12, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Sorry, no video tonight, and sorry to Magicman, no video or audio for games here Friday or Saturday vs. Potsdam and Plattsburgh. Just live stats. A little shorthanded during the intersession break. Tentative plan is to have basketball video this semester for Oneonta, Buffalo St., Fredonia, Brockport and Oswego games (but not New Paltz due to conflict with another home event).

I now recall you had said this previously but I had forgotten. Thanks for the info! :) I know things can be pretty sparse in between Fall and Spring Semesters.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 11:04:07 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 12, 2016, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 12:37:03 PM
Games on tap for the night
Brockport at Oswego a game that ill be attending but I like Oswego in a close low scoring game 62-58

Geneseo at Cortland I like Geneseo to win and get back on track 75-73. I think Geneseo is a very good team and i dont know what has been going on lately with them.

Good to hear from young mr Cahill again!!

Make sure you listen to Hoopsville Thursday night... Mr. Cahill gets a shoutout LOL... and no, that's all the information you get.

I'll be there!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 13, 2016, 12:03:13 AM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 12, 2016, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on January 12, 2016, 12:37:03 PM
Games on tap for the night
Brockport at Oswego a game that ill be attending but I like Oswego in a close low scoring game 62-58

Geneseo at Cortland I like Geneseo to win and get back on track 75-73. I think Geneseo is a very good team and i dont know what has been going on lately with them.

Good to hear from young mr Cahill again!!

Make sure you listen to Hoopsville Thursday night... Mr. Cahill gets a shoutout LOL... and no, that's all the information you get.
Already heard dave haha the secrets out!

I don't think I would have called it a secret. But okay. I can always edit the part out  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2016, 02:49:11 AM
Quote from: FranElia on January 12, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Sorry, no video tonight, and sorry to Magicman, no video or audio for games here Friday or Saturday vs. Potsdam and Plattsburgh. Just live stats. A little shorthanded during the intersession break. Tentative plan is to have basketball video this semester for Oneonta, Buffalo St., Fredonia, Brockport and Oswego games (but not New Paltz due to conflict with another home event).

Fran,
I remember you forewarned us that you were going to be shorthanded over the break. I'll just have to be glued to the live stats page. I appreciate the heads up. I'll now put the other 2 games up on my big TV screen and shift between the Fredonia-Brockport game and the Buffalo State-Geneseo game.

I think I'm in the same boat on Friday night as it looks like Oswego isn't going to have a webcast of their 2 home games this weekend either. So live stats there as well. Hopefully I'll get a good webcast from the Queen City of the Brockport-Buffalo State game on Friday night.

Tough one for the Red Dragons to lose tonight. Plus k for the heads up.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 13, 2016, 12:38:20 PM
Congrats to the Bport E  agles last night's win over a ranked Oswego squad. They really needed that victory as others have said. They must have gotten some things straightened out with their interior defense as it was none existent against the Oneonta team. The foul shooting was a real positive area too. They just need to become more consistent and pull together as a squad. They should be a contender by tournament time.
Keep them rolling Coaches Dunne, Clarke and Johnston!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 13, 2016, 04:32:08 PM
Brockport's Twitter has video of the buzzer beater that ended regulation:

A nice lucky bounce is important now and again, followed by a heads up shot.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bportathletics/status/687316090339328000
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 13, 2016, 05:10:52 PM
Quote from: iwumichigander on January 12, 2016, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 12, 2016, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2016, 06:10:26 AM
Still not a single mention for the team that's in 1st place in the conference.

That's four games and the voters prefer to measure with all 11. (Also, 11 games is not a lot to have played by this time.)
Umm, would not most of the top 25 have played only 11 games (on average)?

A look at the Top 25 page would help you figure that out.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2016, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 13, 2016, 04:32:08 PM
Brockport's Twitter has video of the buzzer beater that ended regulation:

A nice lucky bounce is important now and again, followed by a heads up shot.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bportathletics/status/687316090339328000

pg04,
Thanks for posting this. It's one of the most improbable buzzer beaters I've ever seen. I'm sure it brought an awful big grin to your face. ;D

Paging Pat Coleman:  Pat you should add this one to the buzzer beaters page.

In my best Gildna Radner voice:  Nevermind...I see that you already have it on that page. I looked earlier today and it wasn't there. Glad to see you got it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 13, 2016, 07:35:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 13, 2016, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 13, 2016, 04:32:08 PM
Brockport's Twitter has video of the buzzer beater that ended regulation:

A nice lucky bounce is important now and again, followed by a heads up shot.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bportathletics/status/687316090339328000

pg04,
Thanks for posting this. It's one of the most improbable buzzer beaters I've ever seen. I'm sure it brought an awful big grin to your face. ;D

Especially given the importance of the game in the context of already having lost twice!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 14, 2016, 12:23:50 AM
The video has been shared by deadspin and ESPN as well. Nice!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2016, 02:38:05 AM
Quote from: pg04 on January 14, 2016, 12:23:50 AM
The video has been shared by deadspin and ESPN as well. Nice!

Congrats pg04 and pat Coleman.  I just ran into a colleague at the elevator at the Albany Hilton 10 mins ago.  He knows that I'm a big Buff State hoops fan. He asked me how the season was going then proceeded to tell me about the Brockport buzzer beater that he saw on espn.  Wow you guys work fast!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 14, 2016, 01:07:38 PM
The shot ended up being #1 on Sportscenter's top 10! Big time baby!!!  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2016, 02:23:28 PM
The latest Massey Ratings as of January 14th:

#27    Oneonta State
#32    Plattsburgh State
#65    Buffalo State
#95    Brockport State
#103  Oswego State
#104  Cortland State
#114  Geneseo State

Other East Region Teams of note:

#31   Lancaster Bible
#45   NYU
#70   St. John Fisher
#107 Hartwick
#138 Rochester
#139 Skidmore
#143 Nazareth
#153 RIT
#168 Ithaca
#196 St. Lawrence
#227 Hobart
#236 Stevens Tech
#245 Clarkson
#247 Vassar
#250 Alfred
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 14, 2016, 02:23:28 PM
The latest Massey Ratings as of January 14th:

#27    Oneonta State
#32    Plattsburgh State
#65    Buffalo State
#95    Brockport State
#103  Oswego State
#104  Cortland State
#114  Geneseo State

Other East Region Teams of note:

#31   Lancaster Bible
#45   NYU
#70   St. John Fisher
#107 Hartwick
#138 Rochester
#139 Skidmore
#143 Nazareth
#153 RIT
#168 Ithaca
#196 St. Lawrence
#227 Hobart
#236 Stevens Tech
#245 Clarkson
#247 Vassar
#250 Alfred

Nice.. 7 out of top 11  teams in the east,  reside in the SUNYAC!!! ;)  And 1 of those wont even make it to the SUNYAC PLAYOFFS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 15, 2016, 12:52:19 AM
Man I love this board... you even find out things about the Liberty League here per the Magicman.    "Skid has hit the skids" because of the loss of a "pillar" of the team. :)  And yes the YAC looks stacked!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 06:43:18 AM
Friday Jan. 15th.      All ten teams in action tonight.   

Oneonta State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

Travel partners headed in different directions. Oneonta is only a half game out of 1st place and with Plattsburgh taking on a hungry Laker team it's possible the Red Dragons could be in first place all by themselves later tonight, with a 5-1 record. A Cardinal loss would leave them with a 4-1 conference mark. Oneonta, with a win, is the only team other than Plattsburgh that could be in 1st place when today's action is over.

The Hawks are spiraling downward and just can't seem to put it all together. They did come close last time out in Geneseo, so the talent is there to pull off the upset. Tied with the Knights at 64 each with 1:43 to play the Hawks sent Geneseo to the line and the Knights made a pair to go up by 2. The Hawks then misfired, and Geneseo buried a 3 pointer to go up by 5. The Hawks missed again, had to foul and that was your ballgame.

These teams have went 6-6 over the past 6 years (oh-oh 666 where are the Blue Devils when you need them) but Oneonta has won the last 4 meetings. The Oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 19 point road favorite in this one and it could be a bigger margin than that. Red Dragons win going away by an 88-62 final score.   


Geneseo State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

Geneseo still smarting over the Blue Devils last encounter with the Knights. Looking to get their SUNYAC campaign off to a solid start 10 days ago at home, the Knights got submarined by Fredonia to the tune of an 89-86 upset. I doubt the Knights will be looking past the Blue Devils this time, even with Buffalo State as their next stop. A tough win over Cortland on Tuesday evened their record in the YAC at 2-2. I'll go out on a limb here and say if the Knights lose this game tonight, they won't make the SUNYAC playoffs.

Having said that I don't expect them to lose this game and neither do the oddsmakers. They have installed the Knights as a 9 point favorite and I think the revenge factor will make the margin here, well into double digits. Fredonia was brought back to reality last weekend against Plattsburgh as the Cardinals roughed them up pretty good. I look for the Knights to get some pretty good payback. Geneseo 87 Fredonia 68.
        

Potsdam State  at  Cortland State        7:30 PM

This is the third mismatch of the night as the Bears just don't have the horses to stay with these Red Dragons. And Cortland is feeling angry as well, having let one slip away the other night against Geneseo. Cortland has an outside chance of winding up back in first place after tonight's games. They need Oneonta and Plattsburgh to both lose and they would be tied with the Cardinals heading into their big showdown on Saturday afternoon. I know the Cardinals are totally focused on Oswego and Cortland needs to have the Bears front and center when they invade Corey Gym tonight. Potsdam may be 1-10 but they have nothing to lose and if they can keep the score close then funny things can happen.

The oddsmakers also see this game with a hefty margin as the Red Dragons are favored by the biggest spread of the night at 20 points. Hard to argue with that as the seniors on this Bear's team have never known the feeling of beating Cortland. The last time Potsdam defeated Cortland was almost 5 years ago as Cortland has won 9 straight in this series. I hope I'm wrong but I see Cortland winning this one by an 83-61 final.

Brockport State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM   Co-Featured Game of the Day

If it feels like these two teams just met it's because they did. And apparently didn't get enough of each other a short time ago when the Bengals came away with a win in Brockport. Now the Golden Eagles will try and reverse that trend. Both teams coming off barnburners of the first order but with different outcomes as the Eagles are still living la dolce vita. The most improbable buzzer beater of the year occurred against Oswego on Tuesday to send that game into overtime and enabled Brockport to walk out of Laker Hall with a W. The results of that game were seen and heard far and wide as it was #1 on Sportscenter's Top 10.

The Bengals experienced a different ending in Plattsburgh as they allowed the Cardinals to come from behind and get to overtime. Plattsburgh then won going away in the extra session, sending the Bengals back to Buffalo with a 1-1 weekend, when 2-0 looked so promising.

The Bengals finally put an end to that 8 game winning streak last year, that Brockport had compiled over the past 4 years, but are only 9-2 versus the Eagles going into tonight's game, since their Sweet 16 season of 2010-11. The Bengals are now looking to start a streak of their own. The Eagles, for their part, know they can win in the Queen City, having done so for 4 straight years. The point spread favors the Bengals by a slim 4 points and while I won't be surprised if the Eagles win this game I think that Buffalo State has been the better team this year. I've said it before, Buffalo State is so very close to being an undefeated team that I almost consider them in that light. If they were 12-0 instead of 9-3, they would have been the SUNYAC team most likely ranked in the D3hoops Top 25 instead of the Lakers. So I'm taking the Bengals to sweep the Golden Eagles in the season series by a score of 78-75. These teams could meet for a 3rd time down the road, as they have done so, in 2 of the past 4 years.                


Plattsburgh State  at  Oswego State        7:30 PM      Co-Featured Game of the Day

This is not a good time for any team to be venturing into Laker Hall. The improbable ending to what looked like a sure Oswego State win on Tuesday night against Brockport has left the Lakers plenty desperate and in need of a conference win to get back on track. I'm pretty sure that you would be hard pressed, to find anyone that would tell you, they expected Oswego to be 1-3 and in 8th place at this stage of the game. I wish that Plattsburgh was facing the Lakers on the 2nd day of the weekend swing instead of tonight.

Plattsburgh is riding high at the moment, with a conference best 5 game winning streak, the only undefeated team in the YAC at 4-0 and tied with Cortland with the best overall record at 9-2. In other words, things are too good to be true. I get a nervous feeling when that happens. Too many times I've seen that ride come to a screeching halt. And it's not like Oswego is an 8th place team. They are after all the defending champs, and beat Plattsburgh, in Plattsburgh, last February, to claim that honor. They also returned a lot more talent than the Cardinals did. Oswego is 7-0 out of the conference and granted it wasn't the toughest of OOC schedules but they did beat Middlebury on a neutral court and the Panthers manhandled the Cardinals.(Plattsburgh excuses...they were shorthanded, it was finals week and it was in Middlebury)

I'm hoping that Plattsburgh would like a little revenge for the screeching halt that happened to their season last February, when they were denied a 3rd straight trip to the NCAA Tournament, compliments of the Lakers. The Cardinals won 2 of 3 last year but the one they lost was the all important one.

Oswego will get their act together, after all it's no big deal to lose to Buff State on the road. Lots of teams will do that this year. And dropping the buzzer beater to Brockport was just the basketball gods giving you the business. The loss to Oneonta is the puzzler, not because they lost but because they were never in that game, and I'll be surprised if you see that kind of result again, from this Laker team. For now the Lakers have one mission and that's to protect their home court this weekend. 3-3 on Saturday evening will go a long way toward getting healthy.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a home dog as they favor the Cardinals by a 4 point margin. I said I'd be happy if my Cardinals go 1-1 this weekend, because they would still be in first place when they came home. I'd sure like to get the 1 on the plus side right off the bat and not have to face Cortland tomorrow already down a game on the trip. So despite all my misgivings and dire feelings, you all knew I was going to pick the Cardinals anyway. A day may come when I won't pick the Cardinals to win, but it is not this day. This day they gain a measure of revenge and win by a score of 73-69.  I hope.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 15, 2016, 08:32:29 AM
Buffalo St and the Eagles should be a barnburner as Magicman has said. The Eagles just accomplished the 2 things they needed to bring home a victory. Hopefully they can do it twice in a row;(1) shoot foul shots down the stretch and(2) finish a game on both ends of the floor. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 15, 2016, 09:49:22 AM
Busy Night in the SUNYAC

Oneonta all over New Paltz

Geneseo gets revenge over Fredonia

Plattsburgh a double digit winner over Oswego

Cortland in a close one against Potsdam

Buffalo State squeaks by Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2016, 09:51:47 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 15, 2016, 09:49:22 AM
Busy Night in the SUNYAC

Oneonta all over New Paltz

Geneseo gets revenge over Fredonia

Plattsburgh a double digit winner over Oswego

Cortland in a close one against Potsdam

Buffalo State squeaks by Brockport

That All-Time guy knows his basketball!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2016, 09:52:47 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 15, 2016, 12:52:19 AM
Man I love this board... you even find out things about the Liberty League here per the Magicman.    "Skid has hit the skids" because of the loss of a "pillar" of the team. :)  And yes the YAC looks stacked!!

A little rhyming there?????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2016, 11:01:57 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 15, 2016, 06:43:18 AM


Brockport State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM   Co-Featured Game of the Day

If it feels like these two teams just met it's because they did. And apparently didn't get enough of each other a short time ago when the Bengals came away with a win in Brockport. Now the Golden Eagles will try and reverse that trend. Both teams coming off barnburners of the first order but with different outcomes as the Eagles are still living la dolce vita. The most improbable buzzer beater of the year occurred against Oswego on Tuesday to send that game into overtime and enabled Brockport to walk out of Laker Hall with a W. The results of that game were seen and heard far and wide as it was #1 on Sportscenter's Top 10.

The Bengals experienced a different ending in Plattsburgh as they allowed the Cardinals to come from behind and get to overtime. Plattsburgh then won going away in the extra session, sending the Bengals back to Buffalo with a 1-1 weekend, when 2-0 looked so promising.

The Bengals finally put an end to that 10 game winning streak that Brockport had compiled over the past 4 years and are looking to start a streak of their own. The Eagles, for their part, know they can win in the Queen City, having done so for 4 straight years. The point spread favors the Bengals by a slim 4 points and while I won't be surprised if the Eagles win this game I think that Buffalo State has been the better team this year. I've said it before, Buffalo State is so very close to being an undefeated team that I almost consider them in that light. If they were 12-0 instead of 9-3, they would have been the SUNYAC team most likely ranked in the D3hoops Top 25 instead of the Lakers. So I'm taking the Bengals to sweep the Golden Eagles in the season series by a score of 78-75. These teams could meet for a 3rd time down the road, as they have done so, in 2 of the past 4 years.                


OMG.   I hope that the Bengal coaches don't read this!!!  >:(  FWIW....We actually split last year winning 85-69 at Brockport on 1/16/15.  Just saying! :-\
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
You're right I saw 2 losses last year to Brockport forgot that was one of the years you played them 3 times. So I apologize it was only 9 of the last 10 going into this year. Duly noted and corrected.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2016, 11:30:41 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 15, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
You're right I saw 2 losses last year to Brockport forgot that was one of the years you played them 3 times. So I apologize it was only 9 of the last 10 going into this year. Duly noted and corrected.

I know "perfection" is you middle name.  Glad to help!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2016, 11:30:41 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 15, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
You're right I saw 2 losses last year to Brockport forgot that was one of the years you played them 3 times. So I apologize it was only 9 of the last 10 going into this year. Duly noted and corrected.

I know "perfection" is you middle name.  Glad to help!! ;)

You must have been talking to my wife to know my middle name.??? ;D

And that story she told you about a turtle, a washtub, a garden spade and a visit to the emergency room....pure fabrication.  It never happened...at least in my mind it never happened. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 03:50:34 PM
I'm happier at the moment than I was earlier this morning as I just checked and the Oswego State basketball website is now showing a link for both livestats AND Video. They only had a livestats link up earlier. l sure hope that means a webcast is in order for tonight's game. Go Cardinals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 15, 2016, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 15, 2016, 09:51:47 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 15, 2016, 09:49:22 AM
Busy Night in the SUNYAC

Oneonta all over New Paltz

Geneseo gets revenge over Fredonia

Plattsburgh a double digit winner over Oswego

Cortland in a close one against Potsdam

Buffalo State squeaks by Brockport

That All-Time guy knows his basketball!! ;D ;D ;D

Good luck to your Bengals. I'm hoping for a reverse result of the first meeting.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2016, 08:04:26 PM
Plattsburgh 46, Oswego 35 at the half

Cortland 52, Potsdam 25 midway. Corts shoot 50%fg. Already with 12 in scoring column. C. Joseph, Z. Cotton 8 pts apiece for RDragons who unload 7x13 clip from the arc

Oneonta 40, NP 28 halftime

Brockport 44, Buff St. 33 at the half. Eagles landing FGs at 51%. H. Shamseldin 9 pts for the Port, N. McLean 9 for Buffs

Geneseo in tight skirmish at Freds but builds slim 29-28 edge -- Knights first lead, to 48-38 at intermission. Live stats frozen but video up


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 08:13:39 PM
Plattsburgh leads Oswego by a 46-35 score at the half.

Kyle Richardson leads all scorers with 13 points

Eddie Correa already with 3 triples and 11 points

Eli Bryant comes off the bench and burns the Lakers with some great drives to the basket for 9 points.

Walter Sampson has 10 points to lead Oswego and Keith Tyson has 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 08:14:52 PM
Geneseo opens a little daylight and leads Fredonia by a 48-38 score at the break.

Kevin Crockett with 8 points for the Knights. Jack Manke with7 and Justin Ringen with 6.

Richard Delacruz and Kareem Brown with 8 points each for the Blue Devils.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 08:16:11 PM
Oneonta up 40-28 over New Paltz at the half.

Jackson Zuvic with 10 points, Ian Schupp woth 8 points and Mikey McElroy with 7.

Andrew Seniuk with 8 points to lead the Hawks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 15, 2016, 08:35:39 PM
Geneseo 86, Fredonia 80 final

Plattsburgh 85, Oswego 68 goes final. Cards 34x63fg, 10x26 3s. K. Richardson 29 pts(10x12fg, 3x4 3s), 8 rebs

Cortland 93, Potsdam 72. Fifteen RDragons score. B. Estarfaa with 17 pts., 3 assts in 19' of work, C. Joseph 10 in 12', J. Cooper 7 pts. and 8 rebs. in 12'. RDragons shoot 52 percent from the field. N. Onabor 22 pts(5x12fg, 3x9 3s) for da Bears

Brockport gets late challenge from Buff St. but survives 89-79. Port at 55fg percentage. C. Lyerly with 28 pts(11x14fg, 3x3 3s), H. Shamseldin 20 pts. M. Henry with 23 pts for Bengals

Oneonta 90, New Paltz 67 final. S. Thomsen 15 pts heads four RDragons scoring double figures. Twelve Oneontans score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 08:40:33 PM
Brockport State ahead o Buffalo State at the half by a 44-33 score.

Port now up by a 51-40 score 3 minutes into the 2nd period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
Plattsburgh State 85  Oswego State 68



Much easier time than I expected as Plattsburgh leads by a comfortable margin the entire 2nd half. Up 11 at the break the Cardinals quickly extend that margin to 15 early in the 2nd half. The Lakers get a quick spurt and cut the lead to 57-48 to get it back into single digits with 14:43 on the clock. The Cardinals responded with an 11-3 run and the lead was 68-51 with 9:34 left to play.

Cardinals cruised home from that point as the Lakers got no closer than 11 points the rest of the way. Plattsburgh once again was led by Kyle Richardson with 29 points and 8 rebounds. It's only the 3rd time in 11 games that Kyle has failed to get a double double. He was 10x12 from the field, 3x4 from 3 point land and 6x7 from the line. He also had 2 steals, 2 blocks and 2 assists.

Back up point guard and one of the first players off the Cardinals bench, Eli Bryant established a new career high as a Cardinal as he fired in 21 points (9x13 fg, 3x5 3's, 0x1 ft). He added 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals in 26 minutes.

Eddie Correa was the other Cardinal in double figures as he dropped in 13 points with a trio of 3 pointers. He also had 3 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. Jon Patron had 9 points along with 5 rebounds, while Zack Coleman ran the point with 6 assists, 5 points, 4 steals and a block.

Brian Sortino and Walter Sampson were the leading scorers for the Lakers as they each had 13. Keith Tyson added 10 points, while Demetrius Mitchell had 8 points and a team leading 5 rebounds. Alex Rawa also had 5 rebounds to go with his 5 points.

Cardinals had the better shooting percentages from the field and from long range, while the Lakers were better from the line. Both teams with only 10 turnovers each and the Cardinals had the edge off the glass by a 40-32 margin.

Plattsburgh improves to 10-2 overall and 5-0 in the SUNYAC. They will meet the Cortland Red Dragons on Saturday afternoon with first place on the line.

Oswego is now 8-4 overall and they have lost 4 conference games in a row to fall into an 8th place tie with Potsdam State at 1-4 in the YAC. They can break that tie with the Bears as they host Potsdam tomorrow at 4:00 PM.

The Lakers chances of making the SUNYAC Playoffs and defending their title have taken a serious hit, especially with the abundance of solid teams vying for those coveted 6 spots. As I said earlier, a very good team will not have a chance to make the playoffs this year. Any one of the 6 teams that will battle it out for the Conference Championship has the talent to win it, but getting in is half the battle.     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 09:15:28 PM
Geneseo over Fredonia by an 86-80 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 15, 2016, 09:32:41 PM
After a long last couple of minutes Brockport pulls off the victory in Buffalo, 89-79. Another big win for the Port.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2016, 09:53:29 PM
Cortland all over Potsdam by a final of 93-72.

Red Dragons up by 33 early in the 2nd half and Coach Spanbauer went to his bench early and often.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 15, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Plattsburgh certainly seems to be the class of SUNYAC in this early point of the conference schedule, especially given their earlier win against Oneonta. Be interesting to see the Cortland matchup, but I think Plattsburgh should be able to pull that one off as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 15, 2016, 10:53:56 PM
Congrats to the Eagles--keeping the Bengals at bay. It appears that they are maturing and learning the fine points of closing out games. Keep the focus--Pg04--I think they have arrived!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 15, 2016, 11:07:21 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 15, 2016, 10:53:56 PM
Congrats to the Eagles--keeping the Bengals at bay. It appears that they are maturing and learning the fine points of closing out games. Keep the focus--Pg04--I think they have arrived!!!

Looking forward to following along. Keep the focus indeed as they head down I-90!

I also think it was important for them to get a win after all the national attention. Shows they are able to keep that focus!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 01:56:55 AM
There are a whole lotta Red Dragons rooting for a Cortland win this afternoon in their matchup with Plattsburgh State. And it's not just the flying serpents hanging out around Cortland NY. There are a bunch of relatives swarming the skies over Oneonta NY that want to see the Cardinals go down as well.

Plattsburgh State is 5-0 and leading the SUNYAC and if they lose to Cortland State, later today, these Red Dragons, currently 4-1, would then have an identical 5-1 record as the Cardinals.

The Red Dragon variety that's been rocking the freeworld in Oneonta, is loafing today, after disposing of their travel partners last night, to move to that 5-1 mark that their brethren in Cortland aspire to reach. There is nothing like a three way...tie that is... for the top spot, or so these Red Dragons would have you believe.

I'm hoping the Cardinals can show all these big, red, flying, firebreathers, that there are 50 Shades of Red, and that Cardinal Red is the Dominant Shade. After all 6-0 sounds so much better than 5-1, and there's only one team in this threesome that can be 6-0. ;)

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2016, 03:13:23 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 15, 2016, 10:53:56 PM
Congrats to the Eagles--keeping the Bengals at bay. It appears that they are maturing and learning the fine points of closing out games. Keep the focus--Pg04--I think they have arrived!!!

Congrats indeed.  Thought that a couple of hours at my favorite casino, after this debacle of a game, would get rid of the post Brockport as-whupping taste in my month, that we took tonight!  I was wrong.  6 hours later that loss still taste like crap!

Not much went right tonight.  Late run by brockport before the half took a lot of the wind out of my Bengals sails! Trying to fight back, just wasn't in the cards tonight!  Would like to sit around for a pity party (not) but that ain't the Buff State way!  Geneseo arrives in less than 13 hours and a 0-2 weekend ain't the way to spend this 3 day weekend!  Gotta get the Bengals act together or we will be spending the last week of the season trying to figure out tie breakers....or worse.  I still believe!

Go BENGALS !!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 16, 2016, 09:34:29 AM
Magicman, There is NO WAY PLATTSBURGH loses to Cortland today. Absolutely no way. You won't need to bring out the MAGIC WAND.
They win by double digits
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 09:59:43 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 16, 2016, 09:34:29 AM
Magicman, There is NO WAY PLATTSBURGH loses to Cortland today. Absolutely no way. You won't need to bring out the MAGIC WAND.
They win by double digits

Don't be jinxing my Cardinals now, All-Time. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 16, 2016, 01:15:47 PM
4 Games on Tap today in the SUNYAC

Did THE SHOT against Oswego, give this Brockport group the swagger they desperately needed to compete at a different level?
It certainly looks that way.

Brockport all over Fredonia

Plattsburgh already playing at that level beats up on Cortland by double digits.

Oswego desperately in need of a victory gets it against Potsdam.

Buffalo State takes their frustration out on Geneseo today and wins by double digits.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 04:01:28 PM
Saturday Jan. 16th       4 games scheduled today with Oneonta State and New Paltz State idle.   


Geneseo State   at     Buffalo State      4:00 PM

The Knights have won 3 conference games in a row after dropping their first 2 and have moved ahead of Buffalo State into the 4th place position. The Bengals were in 2nd place but back to back losses have altered their fortunes and they now sit in the 6th and final playoff spot. What a difference a week makes, especially in the YAC.

The Knights have owned the Bengals for the past 4 years, winning 6 in a row at one point, before Buff St. ended that streak last January. Geneseo captured the 2nd meeting between the teams last year as they look to start a new winning streak.

The Bengals are favored in today's matchup by a 5 point margin and I think they get back on the winning path. If they lose today's game their ability to make the playoffs could be seriously compromised. Home court protection is a must in the YAC, and with a third loss at home, the Bengals would not be in a good position. I still think the talent level of the Bengals is better than most teams in the YAC. Time for that talent to shine. Bengals win this one by an 88-81 final score. 


Brockport State   at  Fredonia State      4:00 PM

The Golden Eagles looking to complete the rare Western New York weekend sweep. The hard part is over with but the Blue Devils can still surprise. Not much chance of Coach Dunne allowing the team to have a letdown here, though. The payback delivered to the Bengals yesterday was just what the Doctor ordered for the Green and Gold. The Eagles will be a tough team to deal with as the conference heats up.

The point spread in this one has the Eagles favored by 11. I don't think it will be that close. Brockport has won 5 of the past 6 meetings and I see it becoming 6 of 7.  Brockport 82 Fredonia 65.
   
   
Potsdam State    at  Oswego State      4:00 PM

The Lakers are reeling right now and the one team that can give them a respite are the Bears. Potsdam's struggles continue and they will be hard pressed to win a 2nd game in the talented SUNYAC this season. The oddsmakers have the Lakers favored by 18 and they should cover that spread. Notice I said should. The Bears will treat every game like it's a playoff game because they have nothing to lose. The Lakers will have to regroup in a hurry or this season is over with a loss today. Oswego should regroup and win this one by a comfortable margin. Lakers 77 Bears 64.


The SUNYAC Featured Game of the Week 

Plattsburgh State  at  Cortland State      4:00 PM

Redbirds versus Red Dragons in a battle for first place. A Cortland victory would give them a slight edge over Plattsburgh as the head to head win would temporarily give them a tiebreaking bonus.

No two teams have had a closer rivalry in the Yac over the past nine years than this pair. Plattsburgh has won 3 of the last 4 meetings but the teams are 9-9 over that 9 year stretch. This year looks to be no different. Home court really hasn't mattered much either with each team winning on the others floor season and in previous seasons as well.

The Cardinals with their perfect conference mark, have been selected by the oddsmakers as the team to beat n today's contest. They are listed as a 3 point road favorite.

It's so hard for a team, no matter how talented they are, to make the Central New York trip and come away with 2 wins. I'm hoping my Cardinals are up to the task. Plattsburgh keep the streak alive and wins this one by an 84-79 final score.   

   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 16, 2016, 04:41:21 PM
Looks like the letdown is being allowed through the first half. Brockport down 40-36 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
Plattsburgh Leads Cortland by a 41-30 score at the break.

Cardinals off and running as they open up a 9-0 lead on 5 quick points by Kyle Richardson. Redbirds screech to a halt as Richardson picks up 2 fouls in 12 seconds and has to go to the bench with 16:11 left in the first period. Replacement Jon Patron enters the game and proceeds to score 5 quick points to restore an even keel to the Cards. Plattsburgh leads by double digits for most of the period.

Red Dragons will come back they usually do.

Plattsburgh led by Xavier Thomas with 10 points and Jon Patron also with 10. Ed Correa has 6 and Kyle Richardson and Eli Bryant with 5 each.

JP Reagan tops the Red Dragons with 11 points. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 16, 2016, 04:58:33 PM
6-17 free throws for Brockport so far. Unacceptable for a youth team let alone a College team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2016, 05:00:39 PM
Plattsburgh comes to play ......Cortland scoreless first 5:02. Cards shoot well early and lead by as many as 13. Corts 0x10fg for starters. Ouch!!! RDragons whittle margin to seven late in the period. Pburgh closes on a high. X. Thomas with 10 pts(4x5fg). No mystery that Cortland must shoot well from the arc in any game it plays. This time ---- 1x21!!!!  Cards 16x28fg, 6x12 3s.  JP Reagan paces Dragons with 11 pts. Finally .......he gets the call more. B. Estarfaa 2x12fg ....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:07:27 PM
Genseso leads Buffalo State 34-29 at the break and has opened up a bigger lead in the start of the 2nd half. Now up by a 57-44 margin with 12:25 left in the game. Bengals  need another big comeback from another big hole.

John Decker and Justin Ringen both with 14 points so far. Charlie Zaepfel with 10

Lovell Smith with 12 to lead the Bengals and Nico McLean has 10.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:12:10 PM
Potsdam giving Oswego all it can handle as the Bears come back from early deficit to take a 3 point 40-37 halftime lead.

Oswego has finally regained the lead and now is up 57-56 with 10 minutes to go in the game.

Mitch Lamerson with 14 and Dante Langley with 10 for Potsdam

Brian Sortino with 15 and Alex Rawa with 14 to lead the Lakers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:14:35 PM
Brockport back on top 57-54 on a pair of made free throws by Pat Modzelewski.  8:09 left to play

They must be listening to pg04
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2016, 05:18:00 PM


Cortland within 67-63 on C. Carter steal and D. Hampton layup at 1:41.


.....Corts live by the '3' ...die by the ........now 4x34 beyond the arc....Ugh!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
Cortland starts hitting their 3 pointers and narrows the gap to a 45-42 score with 15:23 to play.

Still only up by 3 with 14:35 to go and the score 49-46 the Cardinals open up some daylight once again as they go on a 14-3 run it make it a 63-49, 14 point margin with 8:34 left in the game.

Cortland doesn't fold and fade however and has their own run of 9 straight points to make it 63-58 with 4:49 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
Geneseo closing out Buffalo  State as they lead 75-68 with less than a minute to play. The foul parade has started.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:33:39 PM
Oswego exercising their muscle has now went in front of Potsdam by a 79-72 score with only 41 seconds remaining.

Brockport up 69-67 with 37 seconds to go and Fredonia has the ball.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:34:35 PM
Genseso wins at Buffalo State 79-72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:36:56 PM
Fredonia scores to knot it up at 69 and Brockport fails to score on their next possession. 3 seconds left and it looks like overtime is quite  possible. Time out on the floor.

Fredonia races upcourt after the inbounds pass and gets off a decent shot just inside of half court, but no Brockport magic for the Blue Devils and we're headed to overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:39:24 PM
Coming down to crunch tome in Cortland as the Cards are clinging to a 68-63 lead with 48 seconds left.

Cards are fouled and go to the line but miss both free throws. Fortunately they grab the rebound and the Red Dragons have to foul again. Cards' Eddie Correa makes them both and Cortland takes a timeout, now down 70 -63. 38 ticks left.

Blair Estarfaa is fouled and makes 1 of 2. Cortland fouls Correa again who makes them both and the score is now 72-64.

Corts Shayne Martinez is fouled and he makes 1 of 2 and Cortland fouls Jon Patron who also makes 1 of 2.

TJ Hefele nails a 3 pointer for the Red Dragons to narrow the lead to 73-68  and Cortland takes a time out. 15 seconds left.

Cards follow with a timeout of their own.

Cortland fouls Correa again and he makes two more free throws.. Corts then miss a 3 pointer, Cards get the rebound and it's a final score of 75-68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:48:45 PM
Final score Oswego defeats Potsdam by an 81-72 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2016, 05:51:15 PM
Plattsburgh clinches from the foul line and whips Cortland 75-68. E. Correa solid from the stripe and finishes with 16 pts. Burgh jumps out quickly and keeps RDragons at arm's length, though hosts get within three late. THREE ......some kinda number for Cortland, which goes 5x39 from beyond the arc!!!  Cortland with a goose egg for the first 5:02 of the game.

X. Thomas with 14 pts for the Cards, J. Patron 13 pts and 9 rebs. K. Richardson 9 pts, 7 rebs and 4pf. Cortland gets 16 pts(6x12fg), 5 rebs from JP Reagan. D. Hampton off the pine for 12 pts(5x8fg), 7 rebs; C. Joseph 11 pts. B. Estarfaa with 11 pts on 4x19fg, 1x12 3s!!!

Pburgh 26x55fg, 7x22 3s, 16x30ft and leads by as many as 14. Cortland takes good care of the ball and boards well after slow ignition there. Dragons 25x74fg, 5x39 3s .......5-for-39 .......11x19ft
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 16, 2016, 05:51:56 PM
You'll see a lot of "Missed Free throw" in the play by play of Brockport. Shameful. What a terrible game. These eggs get laid far too often.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 05:53:00 PM
Fredonia leads 81-80 in OT with 38 seconds to play.

Port fouls and Fredonia's Kareem Brown makes 1 of 2 to make it a 2 point margin. Brockport comes down with 17 ticks left works the ball around  and scores on a drive to the hoop by Devonn Gavin, to tie the game with 5.7 seconds left. Fredonia inbounds the ball, and gets it upcourt, then takes a timeout with 2.9 ticks left. They inbound the ball after the TO and this time they do get some Brockport magic as Dante Williams drains a 3 pointer and the Blue Devils claim the win 85-82.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2016, 06:20:09 PM
Saturday's Final Scores

Plattsburgh State 75   Cortland State 68

Geneseo State  79   Buffalo State 72

Oswego State 81  Potsdam State 72

Fredonia State 85 Brockport State 82 in OT


SUNYAC STANDINGS as of 1-16-16

Plattsburgh State 6-0  Next at  Potsdam State   on 1-19
Oneonta State     5-1  Next  host Buffalo State  on 1-22
Cortland State     4-2  Next at Geneseo State    on 1-19
Geneseo State     4-2  Next host Cortland State  on 1-19
Brockport State    3-3 Next host Oswego State  on 1-19
Buffalo State        3-4  Next host Fredonia State on 1-19
Fredonia State     3-4  Next at Buffalo State       on 1-19
Oswego State      2-4  Next at Brockport State   on 1-19
Potsdam State     1-5  Next host Plattsburgh St. on 1-19
New Paltz State   0-6  Next host Fredonia State   on 1-22
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2016, 07:14:37 PM
It's been a while since the Buff State vs Fredonia game was labeled as "Big" but after 2 lackluster performances my beloved Bengals are faced with as much of a "must win" game in the first half of Sunyac as there could be!   Sunyac is what it is so I guess playing the best each week should bring the best out of you.  Waiting to see the best from my boys. Got a glimpse vs New Jersey City, Lehman etc.  unfortunately we don't play in the NJAC or CUNYAC.  If so then we'd probably have a much better conference record.  We play in the Sunyac and if we expect to see any hoops in March then we better get it together now!!

I believe we will!

Go BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2016, 02:08:58 AM
Saturday was a Cardinal day here in the North Country for the magicman.

1. The Arizona Cardinals won their playoff game and I was rooting hard that they would do so. Larry Fitzgerald and Carson Palmer are classy guys and I actually hope they win a Superbowl. Plus I'm kinda partial to Redbirds. :D

2. The St. John Fisher Cardinals won their game against Ithaca and their best player, Keegan Ryan, is from my hometown so obviously I want him and them to do well. Fisher is 5-0 in their conference and tied for 1st place. I also have Keegan Ryan on my NCAA Futures Fantasy team so I need them to make the tournament.  With an 11-3 overall record they are still in line to get a Pool C bid should they lose in the Empire 8 tournament.

3. Last, but far from least, my Plattsburgh State Cardinals defeated defending conference champions, Oswego State on Friday and topped off the weekend by defeating Cortland State on Saturday, to continue to keep sole possession of first place in the SUNYAC conference, with a 6-0 record. At 11-2 overall they also remain in good shape for a Pool C bid should they fail to grab the automatic entry. Hopefully they will continue their solid play as the season progresses.

So yeah I was viewing the entire weekend through rose colored glasses. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2016, 06:05:30 AM
Plattsburgh State 75  Cortland State 68

The Cardinals held off the Red Dragons who fought back on 2 occasions when they were down by double digits, refusing to go quietly into the night.

Plattsburgh came out firing, early on and scored the first 7 points of the game on an opening 3 pointer by Kyle Richardson, a layup by Magic Grigg and another inside move by Richardson. The Plattsburgh star was then whistled for a foul and 12 seconds later was called for a 2nd foul, that I'm told was highly questionable. So to the bench he went and didn't return for the rest of the entire half. I'm sure getting four first half minutes from your top player wasn't in Coach Curle's game plan. So enter Jon Patron to take Richardson's place. It took Patron 27 seconds to put points on the board as he went inside for a layup, missed it, got his own rebound and put it back in for the score. Just over a minute later he buried a 3 pointer to give the Cardinals their first double digit lead at 12-2. The Cardinal faithful have learned that the team doesn't suffer when Patron has to replace Richardson. Often they are both on the floor at the same time and that can be painful for the opposition.

Meanwhile J P Reagan entered the game for the Red Dragons and he was the first Cortland player to score as the Red Dragon starters missed their first 10 shots. Reagan scored 5 minutes into the contest to get Cortland on the board. He then proceeded to score 9 of their next 14 points to keep Cortland in the game. The Cardinals' lead fluctuated between 7 and 13 points for the rest of the period.

Up by 10 at 26-16 the Cardinals got a 3 pointer from Eddie Correa to increase their lead to the largest of the half. It was the 209th three pointer of Ed's career as a Cardinal and the first of 3 he would have on the night. On Friday night against Oswego he also had 3 triples and his first one in that game broke the all time Plattsburgh State record that was previously held by Cardinal All American, Anthony Williams.

The Cardinals' lead was up to 13 again,after Correa drained another 3 pointer with 3:10 left in the half, to make it 37-24. Cortland scored 5 straight points to close the gap but the Cards got back to back layups from Patron to go into the break with an 11 point advantage at 41-30.

Cortland shot an abysmal 1x21 from 3 point land in the first half and as anyone who follows YAC basketball knows the Red Dragons are usually one of the top teams or the top team in the conference from downtown. I think this performance, will finally even out the performance, that I witnessed a few years ago, when they were around 20x21 from long range. At any rate, I knew that a different storyline would take place in the 2nd half.

And it didn't take long for that plot to emerge as 12 seconds into the period Carrel Joseph drained a 3 and after Plattsburgh turned it over, Blair Estarfaa buried another one . Quickly the lead was down to 5 points. The teams battled back and forth and another jumper by Estarfaa made it a single possession game at 47-44 with 15 minutes left. The 3  Cardinal seniors, Richardson, Correa and the X-man, Xavier Thomas all scored to begin a 16-5 burst that restored a double digit margin at 63-49.

Back came the Red Dragons with 9 straight points to make it 63-58 with 4:49 to play, and after a layup by  Dre Hampton with 1:41 to go the score was 67-63 and the Cards were about to be tested at the foul line. Correa was fouled and made 1 of 2 but Cortland misfired on their end. Another foul and more Cardinal misses, but a big offensive rebound by Ian Howard proved to be a backbreaker. Cortland had to foul again and this time Correa made them both. That pattern would continue as the Cards made 7 of 8 in the final 40 seconds to close things out.

Ed Correa was the game's leading scorer with 16 points and 6 rebounds. The X-Man Thomas had 14 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds and a block.

Jon Patron had 13 points and a game high 9 rebounds. Kyle Richardson with limited minutes from the foul problem had 9 points and 7 rebounds. Eli Bryant once again with a solid contibution off the bench with 8 points, 4 assists, and 4 rebounds. Zack Coleman with 6 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals.
Ian Howard only got in for 9 minutes but scored 5 points and had 4 offensive rebounds. Magic Grigg also only 12 minutes but valuable ones as he scored 4 points and had a career high 5 rebounds, 3 on the offensive end.                 

Plattsburgh shot 47.3% from the field hitting 26 of 55. They were 7x22 from long range (31.8%) but only 16x30 from the line (53.3%) They had 14 turnovers to only 7 for Cortland and finished in a dead heat for rebounds as they each had a total of 45.

Cortland had 4 players finish in double figures with JP Reagan leading the way. He matched Correa with 16 points and had 5 rebounds and 2 blocks. Dre Hampton had 12 points, a team high 7 rebounds, a steal and a block.

Blair Estarfaa had 11 points, and 6 rebounds, while Carrel Joseph had 11 points and 3 rebounds. TJ Hefele added 7 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assist off the bench. Grequan Carter had 6 points and a team high 4 assists.

Obviously the biggest factor that resulted in a Cardinal win was the 3 point shooting of Cortland or the lack of it. Going 5x39 (12.8%) from deep will generally put you are the losing side of the scoreboard. It was the worst performance of the season for Cortland from long range beating the 5x26 night they had against Ithaca on December 1st, which also resulted in a loss.Their overall field goal percentage was 26x75 (34.7%) which  if you deduct the 3 point shots from that total you would find they were 21x36 (58.3%) from inside the arc.

Part of the Red Dragons problems shooting the 3 ball tonight, can directly be attributed to the defense of the Cardinals. Plattsburgh entered the weekend as the #2 ranked team in the nation defending the 3 ball. After Friday and Saturday's games they are now the national leaders in that category. Teams throwing up the long range bombs against Plattsburgh will only be successful 24.3% of the time.       

Plattsburgh is now 11-2 overall and 6-0 in the YAC. They head over to Potsdam to take on their North Country rival on Tuesday the 19th at 7:30.

Cortland drops to 10-3 overall  and 4-2 in the conference. They travel to Geneseo on Tuesday for a meeting with the Knights.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 17, 2016, 10:36:51 AM
I didn't watch the game; but I guess the "focus" was not there on the defensive end or the foul line. The Eagles are really putting the pressure on themselves to make the playoffs. 7 good teams and only 6 spots for playoffs. Am I correct?  Still love my Eagles but got to become a more consistent team. We can't "roll the dice" every time you take the floor. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 17, 2016, 06:03:47 PM
My heart goes out to the Geneseo community. I am at a loss of words. Will say something on tonight's show, but in the meantime... please keep them in your thoughts: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2016/01/17/police-investigation-underway-geneseo/78930674/

Democrat and Chronicle's coverage: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2016/01/17/police-investigation-underway-geneseo/78930674/

And Geneseo with information: http://www.geneseo.edu/jan-17-tragedy
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 17, 2016, 11:26:54 PM
Very sad news coming out of Geneseo Dave.

My thoughts are with the families, teammates, classmates, friends, the list goes on and on for the lives cut short.

Tragedy needs to stay away from the SUNYAC family!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2016, 11:28:48 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 17, 2016, 06:03:47 PM
My heart goes out to the Geneseo community. I am at a loss of words. Will say something on tonight's show, but in the meantime... please keep them in your thoughts: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2016/01/17/police-investigation-underway-geneseo/78930674/

Democrat and Chronicle's coverage: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2016/01/17/police-investigation-underway-geneseo/78930674/

And Geneseo with information: http://www.geneseo.edu/jan-17-tragedy

Will do. Plenty here at Buffalo State are stunned also. Just saw Kelsey play here yesterday!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 17, 2016, 11:48:28 PM
I had a comment from Scott Hemer at the end of Hoopsville tonight (read comment)... not sure if it can be seen (we had tech problems), but it simply said they will get through this and as I also heard from Mike at New Paltz... there is nothing on how to deal with this in Coaching Guide 101.

FYI - Cortland games postponed if you didn't know.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2016, 12:22:41 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 17, 2016, 11:48:28 PM
I had a comment from Scott Hemer at the end of Hoopsville tonight (read comment)... not sure if it can be seen (we had tech problems), but it simply said they will get through this and as I also heard from Mike at New Paltz... there is nothing on how to deal with this in Coaching Guide 101.

FYI - Cortland games postponed if you didn't know.

Thanks for keeping us informed, Dave. I was tuned into Hoopsville but the broadcast conked out while you were interviewing Coach Schulman from Lehman College. I kept checking back but couldn't get it to  reconnect. I know you were having some technical issues, as you mentioned during the broadcast, from your time spent down south. I did see where the Democrat & Cronicle link you provided had another small update a bit later, but really, nothing concrete. It said the police were going to have a news conference at 2:00 PM on Monday afternoon.

Sad times in the SUNYAC recently. Our prayers go out to the families of the young students that lost their lives on Sunday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 18, 2016, 12:30:05 AM
To say I was having tech problems tonight would be an understatement. And the problems that caused the broadcast to conk out near the end were completely unrelated to the problems we were having in the afternoon and at the start of the show. The list of issues today/tonight is a long one that kept getting longer. I am hoping that somehow parts of the broadcast at the end survive the processing from YouTube overnight or they are gone... because on my end the broadcasting console crashed when we went to stop the recording - possibly a sign of what was going on that we had no control of.

To say the least, I'm ticked off and the amount of time added to my week to solve these problems compared to the already-existent list is frustrating.

Sorry... got sidetracked.

It has been a tough year in the SUNYAC. However, I can't imagine what is going on on the Geneseo campus and especially with the teams nearly directly involved. We will continue to follow the story and update when we can and when it is appropriate. We certainly aren't a media entity (we/me) that looks to glorify anything or make our name by having a TMZ-mentality.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2016, 12:40:46 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 18, 2016, 12:30:05 AM
It has been a tough year in the SUNYAC. However, I can't imagine what is going on on the Geneseo campus and especially with the teams nearly directly involved. We will continue to follow the story and update when we can and when it is appropriate. We certainly aren't a media entity (we/me) that looks to glorify anything or make our name by having a TMZ-mentality.

Anyone that has spent any amount of time on D3hoops or caught any Hoopsville shows knows that the TMZ style isn't your cup of tea. I caught your initial remarks about the Geneseo story and how you weren't going to speculate since nothing factual had been released. I noticed the Democrat & Cronicle managed to slide in a bit of speculation with their updated comments.

Sorry for all the technical problems....as if you don't have enough to do. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 18, 2016, 01:39:02 AM
Prayers and my deepest condolences go out to all.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2016, 03:38:30 AM
The latest Massey Ratings as of January 18th:   

The East Region's Top 25             Plus or Minus since last listing.

#20    Plattsburgh State                +12               
#27    Oneonta State                      same
#28    Lancaster Bible                    +4
#54    St. John Fisher                     +16
#71    NYU                                      -26
#83    Geneseo State                      +31
#86    Hartwick                               +21
#96    Buffalo State                        -31
#104  Brockport State                    -9
#110  Rochester                             +28
#112  Cortland State                      -8
#118  Oswego State                       -15
#152  Nazareth                               -9                         
#162  Skidmore                              -23
#171  Ithaca                                   -3
#182  Hobart                                  +45
#184  RIT                                       -31
#197  St. Lawrence                        -1
#224  Union                                   +33
#232 Alfred                                    +18
#239 Stevens Tech                         -3
#246  Vassar                                  +1
#249  Clarkson                               -4
#255  RPI                                       -83                                           
#264  Fredonia State                     +99


Massey Ratings as of January 14th:

#27    Oneonta State
#32    Plattsburgh State
#65    Buffalo State
#95    Brockport State
#103  Oswego State
#104  Cortland State
#114  Geneseo State

Other East Region Teams of note:

#31   Lancaster Bible
#45   NYU
#70   St. John Fisher
#107 Hartwick
#138 Rochester
#139 Skidmore
#143 Nazareth
#153 RIT
#168 Ithaca
#172 RPI
#196 St. Lawrence
#227 Hobart
#236 Stevens Tech
#245 Clarkson
#247 Vassar
#250 Alfred
#257 Union
#363 Fredonia State
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2016, 04:09:28 AM
Here's a story that was on the Geneseo Men's Hockey website back in December when the Ice Knights had just upset #1 ranked Plattsburgh State. The player in the article, Matt Hutchison, is the young man who lost his life yesterday in the tragedy at Geneseo. It's not basketball but it's worth the read.

http://geneseoknights.com/sports/mice/2015-16/releases/20160117tako2p

Matt was from Vancouver, British Columbia and a college student playing hockey, but that didn't stop him from volunteering for the Geneseo Fire Department. It was a way that he could learn about firefighting which was his ultimate life's goal.

So sad that a young man's life is gone so quickly, without ever achieving his dreams. A special prayer will go out this day for Matt and the other 2 students that lost their lives.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 18, 2016, 01:52:31 PM
My heart goes out to the families of those you tragically lost there children yesterday at Geneseo.
There are no words to describe what these families must be going through.
My thoughts and prayers are with them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 18, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
Police had their presser and apparently have confirmed what I had been hearing: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/3-found-dead-suny-geneseo-suspected-murder-suicide-article-1.2500218
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2016, 04:16:33 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 18, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
Police had their presser and apparently have confirmed what I had been hearing: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/3-found-dead-suny-geneseo-suspected-murder-suicide-article-1.2500218

I surmised this to be the case last night, after hearing a press briefing at the police dept. yesterday afternoon. There were just enough questions asked by the media, that weren't answered at that time, but still gave you the idea of the ramifications of the tragic  incident.

It's even sadder when you realize that at some point this may have been prevented with counseling for the disturbed ex boyfriend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 18, 2016, 06:27:02 PM
Very sad story. It's hard to understand how someone may get to that point, but I feel for all the families.

A somewhat similar situation happened in Brockport a couple years ago (the story actually ended up on dateline) and the community came together. #GeneseoStrong (invoking hashtags that don't do anything on this board).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 18, 2016, 07:12:00 PM
Ugh and don't read some social media comments on the story. That was a mistake. The advice of "don't read the comments" is advisable in most serious stories.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2016, 09:33:44 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 Poll out:   http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week6

Plattsburgh State with 2 more wins over the weekend to remain undefeated in a strong SUNYAC gets their initial entry into the Top 25 poll as they collect 22 points to occupy the 32nd spot. 11-2 Cards on a 7 game winning streak and are 6-0 in the YAC. Plattsburgh is now the highest ranked SUNYAC school. Probably the Kiss of Death as it has been for the other 5 schools who have made the poll. Hopefully the Redbirds will keep on improving as their young players gain experience.

Oneonta State getting a little more recognition with 6 points and the 38th spot, up from the single mention they had last week. The Red Dragons only played 1 game last week. They are on a 4 game streak and stand at 10-3 for the season

Both Oswego and Cortland each with 2 losses last week are history. They will need a lengthy winning streak to get noticed the rest of the year.

NYU with their first loss, now that league play has started, tumbled 2 spots from 15th to 17th. Violets are 12-1 overall but have an ugly strength of schedule, rated as the 351st toughest out of 420 teams. Oneonta by comparison has the 29th toughest schedule.

Lancaster Bible inched a little further ahead as they romped over Morrisville State by a 97-66 score. The Mustangs are probably the 2nd best team in the weak NEAC conference and I'll be surprised if Lancaster Bible doesn't end up undefeated for the regular season, and the conference tournament. They are now in 20th place up from #22 last week. I expect they will continue to slowly rise up the ladder as the teams above them suffer a loss. They will experience what Albertus Magnus went through a few years ago where the voters will only go so high because of the weak conference and their lack of many quality opponents. Their SOS is rated as the 384th toughest one so the voters have to factor that into the equation. At least NYU's schedule gets stronger as they now play mainly UAA teams, but LB will not get the benefit that NYU will, in that regard. I think they are probably a very good team and it wouldn't surprise me to see them win a couple of games in the NCAA Tournament, which I obviously think they will get into. Morrisville State pulled off couple of surprises in two different years in the NCAA's., and so didn't SUNYIT one year.

St. John Fisher makes a reappearance after falling completely out of sight. The Cardinals reached a high of #10 in the first week of the poll after being #22 in the preseason poll, but then went into a freefall that had them missing in action by the 4th week of the poll. They were 4-3 at that time and have reeled off 7 wins in a row to get their mojo back, along with 1st place, (tied with Hartwick) in the E8.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 19, 2016, 10:50:52 AM
I am surprised NYU only fell 2 to be honest. Given the numbers the team still gets a lot of love.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 19, 2016, 04:04:29 PM
3 games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Plattsburgh all over Potsdam

Does Oswego get Revenge over Brockport? I don't think so, but this is a very important game for Oswego.
In fact every game is an important game for Oswego if they want to have any chance of defending their Championship.
Oswego goes how Brian Sortino goes, but he can't do it alone.
I will go with Brockport in a very close game.

I wish I had more conviction tonight about Buffalo State against Fredonia. Buffalo State is on the decline and Fredonia has some very big wins against some of the elite teams in the conference, Geneseo and Brockport.
I hope BenglesRule has something to say about this game and gets Buffalo State playing the kind of basketball they should be playing. I'm going to go out of a limb and take Buffalo State by double digits at home.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 07:06:32 PM
Tuesday January 19th Only 3 games after the postponement of the Geneseo-Cortland game.

Fredonia State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

I won't say this is a must win for the Bengals but... this is a must win. If the Bengals lose to their travel partners tonight they will be on the outside looking in concerning a SUNYAC playoff bid. The team that beat New Jersey City and Lehman a few weeks ago needs to re-emerge from the darkside and find new hope.

Fredonia is now tied with the Bengals and the loser of this game will be in 7th or possibly 8th place if Oswego wins tonight. The Blue Devils have a pair of wins over the 2 teams that just marched into the Sports Arena and beat Buff State. They have to  feel they can play with the Bengals.

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a solid 10 point favorite and if this team plays like they are capable of playing they should win by 20. I'm tempted to pick the Blue Devils because the Bengals have burned me 3 times already this year. The talent level is too great for me to do that however, so I'll take Buffalo State to win by an 87-73 final score.   


Oswego State  at   Brockport State        7:30 PM

This game is a quick turnaround of last week's nail biter in Oswego. The Lakers have turned out to be a big disappointment so far, failing to beat any conference opponent with a winning record. Brockport, coming off an upset at the hands of Fredonia, will look to get back on the winning path and create some daylight from several of the teams behind them in the standings.

The Lakers swept Brockport last year but a big part of those wins was Rashawn Powell , the one starter that the Lakers lost off last year's team. Powell had double-doubles in both games against Brockport and controlled the boards amassing twice as many rebounds as anyone on the Golden Eagles lineup. No Powell may be the biggest factor that could account for a Brockport sweep this year.

The point spread favors the home team Eagles by a slender 3 point margin. I like the Eagles to win this as well, and a 3 point margin seems to be a good bet. Brockport 75 Oswego 72   



Plattsburgh State        Potsdam State        7:30 PM

This North Country rivalry has been pretty one sided over the past 6 years with the Cardinals holding an 11-1 edge and running their winning streak against the Bears to 6 straight. Plattsburgh is coming off a successful road trip and this game is certainly a trap game if there ever was one, with Geneseo and Brockport coming to the 'Burgh this weekend.

The Bears almost pulled off the upset at Oswego last Saturday and that effort had to give them a boost heading into tonight's contest. They will still be up against it and will need to shoot lights out in order to have a chance. They do have a couple of players who can do just that and on their home court may pose a problem.

Plattsburgh counters with the #1 three point defense in the country, so if the Bears are looking to score points in bunches, there's a good chance it may not happen outside the arc. Going inside could be tough as well with Xavier Thomas and Kyle Richardson, 2 of the leading shot blockers in the SUNYAC, guarding the paint.

The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a big 24 point road favorite, but I'm not sure the Cardinals will win by that much. I think the final will be something like Plattsburgh 84 Potsdam 64          

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 08:16:07 PM
Plattsburgh playing like they are the team with the 1-12 record as the Bears lead at the half by a 48-36 score.

Joe Estramonte lighting up the Cardinals with a 17 point half including 4 of 5 from 3 point range. So much for that vaunted 3 point defense that the Cards lay claim to. Dante Langly with 11 points for the Bears.

Kyle Richardson leads the Cardinals with 10 points. Eli Bryant and Jon Patron with 9 each.

Plattsburgh better come out of the gate in a hurry in the 2nd half or the Bears will pull off the biggest upset of the SUNYAC. They have nothing to lose and a win over their North Country rival would go a long way in lifting their spirits in a disappointing season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 08:20:34 PM
Brockport and Oswego tied at 39 at the Break.

Devon Gavin is the high scorer for the Golden Eagles with 10 points. Hamed Shamseldin and Clifton Lylerly with 7 points each.

Brian Sortino with 17 points for Oswego, to lead all scorers.Alex Rawa and Walter Sampson with 6 apiece.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 08:33:46 PM
Buffalo State breaks out of a 28-28 tie with Fredonia abd scores the final 6 points of the first half to go into the locker room with a 34-28 lead at the break.

Lovell Smith leads the Bengals with 11 points. Jordan Glover has 8 and Nico McLean has 7.

Ian Helps with 9 to top the Blue Devils and Kareen Brown has 8.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
Plattsburgh State does come out of the locker room with a barrage of baskets as they score the first 13 points of the 2nd half to go in front of the Bears 49-48.

They are now in front by a 57-51 score with 10:07 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:00:31 PM
Plattsburgh State 83  Potsdam State 71

The Cardinals complete their comeback as they win by 12 points after trailing by 12 points at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:02:04 PM
Oswego has led Brockport most of the 2nd half and now has a 75-66 lead with just 1:23 remaining.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 19, 2016, 09:03:44 PM
Thank heaven!!  Thought the Cards might be suffering "from I got rankedItsis"(just so everybody knows that's a long I)  and after all of the Magicman's begging...oops I meant "lobbying" for recognition that would have been truly a misfortune !!!  Just kidding Magic!!  Go CARDS!!  Go Bengals!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:04:34 PM
Buffalo State has expanded their halftime advantage over Fredonia and is now in front by a 55-40 score with 8:51 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:06:36 PM
Quote from: with age came? on January 19, 2016, 09:03:44 PM
Thank heaven!!  Thought the Cards might be suffering "from I got rankedItsis"(just so everybody knows that's a long I)  and after all of the Magicman's begging...oops I meant "lobbying" for recognition that would have been truly a misfortune !!!  Just kidding Magic!!  Go CARDS!!  Go Bengals!! ;D

I said getting ranked has been the Kiss of Death worse than the Sports Illustrated Jinx. Looked like it was gonna happen again. Curle must have been yelling real loud at halftime because they got their act together real quick in the 2nd period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:08:11 PM
And there's a difference between begging and trying to prove a point. ;D I think I proved my point. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:10:39 PM
Brockport trying hard to repeat their magic moment of a week ago. Now only down 80-74 with 51 seconds left.

I think it's too little too late though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:15:49 PM
Final score Oswego State 84  Brockport State 74


Final score Buffalo State 75  Fredonia State 67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 19, 2016, 09:17:49 PM
YES SIR YOU DID!!  By the way saw Tufts/Hamilton game on Saturday...Pace for Tufts is for real!!!  That guy can flat out play!!!
P.S. Met Tom Palleschi's parents...good people.. and a great "backstory" there...if you ever get to a Tufts game take the time!!  He's easy to notice he's about a 1000 feet tall!!!  Surprised D-3 hoops hasn't landed on that story yet but perhaps they have and I just don't know about it?? :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2016, 02:23:25 AM
Plattsburgh State 83  Potsdam State 71

The Cardinals were extremely happy to walk off Jerry Welsh Court with a W after the exhibition they put on in the first half. Favored by 24 points the Cards were down by 12 at the break. Maybe the oddsmakers were looking into a cloudy crystal ball when they set the point spread for the game. The Cards were 24 points better than the Bears, but it was only in the 2nd half that they had that margin, outscoring Potsdam by a whopping 47-23 score in that period.

Potsdam opened up with a 5-0 lead on a 3 point basket by Joe Estramonte, and a deuce by Tyrone Adeyeye. Plattsburgh got on the board on a pair of layups by Zack Coleman and Kyle Richardson, but the Bears kept increasing their lead and another 3 pointer by Estramonte, put them up by a 16-7 margin, after nearly 7 minutes had gone by. The Cards responded with 3 straight baskets to cut the lead to 3 points, only to have the Bears build it right back up again. It looked like the Bears weren't going to go away and with just under 7 minutes left in the period the Potsdam's Nate Wyatt drained another 3 pointer to give them their largest lead so far of 10 points at 28-18.  Three times the Cards would score to cut it to single digits but each time the Bears had an answer and the 3rd time Estramonte drilled another triple to make it an 11 point lead.

Back came Plattsburgh with a pair of triples by Eli Bryant and Eddie Correa but again Potsdam countered with 3 point baskets from Dante Langley and Estramonte to up the lead back to 11 with 1:08 left to play in the half. Both teams came up empty in their next possessions and with 9 seconds left Estramonte was fouled taking a   3 pointer. He made all 3 free throws to give the Bears their largest lead of the night. Plattsburgh's Eli Bryant managed to drive and score right before the buzzer but the Bears still went into the half with their biggest lead of the season, 48-36.

I said at the half that Plattsburgh better come out firing on all cylinders or this would be the biggest upset in the YAC this year. What I should have said was... it would have been the biggest upset in Division 3 this year. Currently, according to the Massey Ratings, the 2 biggest upsets in Division III are #400 Newbury defeating #159 Connecticutt College 82-80 and #339 Lyndon State defeating #81 Wesleyan (Ct.) 80-78. Potsdam defeating Plattsburgh would have been #390 beating #19. Glad we don't have that distinction on our record.

So I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to hear what was said at halftime by the Cardinals' coaching staff. Hopefully I'll get that story tomorrow. Whatever it was, it sure worked as Plattsburgh dominated on both ends of the court scoring 13 unanswered points to open the half and shutting down the 3 point shots that helped carry the Bears in the first half. Potsdam was held scoreless for the first 8 minutes of the period, as they missed their first 10 shots and were 0x6 from long distance. The Cardinals meanwhile were getting production from every person on the floor. The switch to a zone defense by Plattsburgh had a big effect on the offensive woes of the Bears.

A pair of free throws from Eddie Correa gave the Cardinals their first lead and completed that 13-0 run to make it 49-48 with 12:26 to go in the game. Estramonte came down and finally put the Bears on the board in the 2nd half with his 6th three pointer of the game. It regained the lead for Potsdam but it would be the last time they were in front. Kyle Richardson scored inside, Eli Bryant swished a three, and Jon Patron scored inside, on three successive trips down the floor to make it 57-51. Still up 61-55, Plattsburgh got 6 straight points from the X-Man as he got a steal and a dunk. Xavier then made 4 straight free throws (a season high I think) and the 12 point deficit was now a 12 point lead. The closest the Bears could get after that was 8 points with 2:43 to play but Correa ended any hope of a comeback by burying 2 long three pointers on back to back possessions and the lead reached 14 at 80-66, the largest of the game. The Potsdam coaching staff, wisely decided to forego the foul parade, that would usually take place in the final 90 seconds or so.

Plattsburgh only had 6 players hit the scoring column tonight but 5 of them recorded double digits and 2 of them Jon Patron and Kyle Richardson, had double-doubles. Patron led the Cards with 20 points and tied Richardson for game honors with 11 rebounds. Richardson had 14 points, 3 assists, 3 steals, and 2 blocks. Patron's double-double was the first one in his college career, after just missing one on 5 other occasions. For Richardson it was his 8th double-double this year.

Eddie Correa and Eli Bryant both scored 16 points and together had 5  three pointers, 3 for Eddie and 2 for Eli. Correa also had 4 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal and a block.

Xavier Thomas had 12 points, all in the 2nd half. he added 6 rebounds, 2 steals, an assist and a block.

It was a tale of two halves as the Bears outshot the Cards in all 3 areas in the first half, 42.8% (15x35) to 34.1% (14x41) from the field, 63.6% (7x11) to 15.3% (2x13) from 3 point land, and 84.6% (11x13) to 35.2% (6x17) from the line.

The Cardinals turned the tables in a big way in the 2nd half. They  were 51.7% (15x29) to 29.0% (9x31) from the field, 36.3% (4x11) to 20.0% (3x15) from long range and 81.2% (13x16) to 66.6% (2x3) from the line.

The Cardinals outrebounded Potsdam by a 50-39 margin and had a season low 7 turnovers to 13 for the Bears.                   

Potsdam got a big effort from their smallest player as Joe Estramonte was the leading scorer for either team with 25 points. He was 6x13 from long distance but really was much better than that figure would suggest as he threw up a number of hurried shots near the end of the game to try and get the Bears back in it. And remember he did this against the best 3 point defense in the nation.  He also had 5 assists, 4 rebounds, a block and a steal.

Dante Langley had 13 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists. Josh Blagrove had 11 points and 3 boards. Sergine Kane had 10 points and led the team with 7 rebounds. Mitch Lamerson had 5 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal, while Tyrone Adeyeye, had 5 rebounds, 4 points, 3 assists and a block.

Plattsburgh improves to 12-2 overall and 7-0 in the conference. Their current 8 game winning streak is their longest one since the 2013-14 season when they also had an 8 game win streak. They will host Geneseo on Friday evening at 7:30 and then Brockport on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM to complete the first trip through their conference rivals. Geneseo was the team that ended their last 8 game winning streak on Feb.8th, 2014, when the Knights won in Geneseo  by a 60-51 score. This time it's  in Plattsburgh so maybe there will be a different outcome. The Cards will have to go some to catch their longest winning streak which occurred in the 2007-08 season when they reeled off 20 wins in a row. I hope we can get half way there by winning a pair this weekend.

Potsdam put up a valiant effort tonight and played the Cards tougher than most other teams in the conference have done. They may surprise a team or two yet this season. They are now 1-13 on the year (1-6) and will host the same 2 teams that Plattsburgh does this weekend in reverse order. 

   

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 20, 2016, 10:22:26 AM
Impressive win for Oswego last night at Brockport.
Mykelle Kreck was the difference, 27 minutes, 12 points, 13 rebounds and 7 blocks.
He looked great.
Where has this guy been all season?
They looked like a the Championship team I saw last season with this guy on the floor.
Beware of Oswego, they found the piece to get them back on track.
The SUNYAC should be fun to watch the rest of the way.
Just when I thought I had it all figured out.
Can't wait for Friday nights games.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 20, 2016, 10:51:05 AM
Oswego had a great win at Brockport last night hopefully they can get it going like they did last year. Surprised that Plattsburgh got down to Potsdam but I think it just shows how good the league really is anybody can beat anyone on any night. Fredonia taking Buff State to overtime, looks like Fredonia can beat anyone. They played an unbelievable nonconference schedule and they have some good wins. I saw Potsdam and Plattsburgh play live this weekend and was really impressed with Plattsburgh talent level , the way they defend and how hard they play. Potsdam is better than they have been as well. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 20, 2016, 12:25:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:08:11 PM
And there's a difference between begging and trying to prove a point. ;D I think I proved my point. ;)

No... you were begging. LOL  ;D ;) :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2016, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 19, 2016, 04:04:29 PM
I hope BenglesRule has something to say about this game and gets Buffalo State playing the kind of basketball they should be playing. I'm going to go out of a limb and take Buffalo State by double digits at home.

"Ugly win".  That's about all I have to say!  An overtime game that should have never gone to ot!  We gotta get better quickly or its gonna be a loooonnnnggg weekend! Friday vs Oneonta marks the end of the first half of the Sunyac season ( for Buff State). If you would have told me one month ago that I'd be hoping for a better than .500 Yac record at midsession, I would have told you to stop drinking! 

Something tells me that my good friends may not be picking us to win Friday at Oneonta.   Sure hoping for a win ( a safe travels back to our hotel- 2010 we got stuck in Oneonta). Not too late to get back on track

I believe

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2016, 05:47:25 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 20, 2016, 12:25:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 19, 2016, 09:08:11 PM
And there's a difference between begging and trying to prove a point. ;D I think I proved my point. ;)

No... you were begging. LOL  ;D ;) :)

If you say so, Dave. I was going to post that I hoped the Cardinals continued to be overlooked since I didn't want them to get the D3hoops jinx laid upon them. Thought for sure it was going to happen last night when the Cardinals played my Alma Mater, Potsdam. Down by 12 at the half, I was thinking the jinx strikes again. Fortunately the Cards were able to overcome the jinx...a good sign, but a tough weekend looms.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 20, 2016, 08:38:55 PM
I guess it's good that Dave isn't influenced by the posters here. Just looks at the objective data. Although I would claim there is very little objective data. And a poll certainly isn't objective. What am I talking about?  ;D ??? ??? lol
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2016, 01:03:55 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 20, 2016, 10:22:26 AM
Impressive win for Oswego last night at Brockport.
Mykelle Kreck was the difference, 27 minutes, 12 points, 13 rebounds and 7 blocks.
He looked great.

All-Time,

Maybe you didn't start reading the board until the season actually started this year but this is part of a post I had put up back in early November.

Quote from: magicman on November 06, 2015, 04:39:08 AM
Oswego State posted their roster and......the BIG surprise was the addition of forward Mykelle Krecko. Krecko could very well be the tallest player in the SUNYAC this season as he is a 6'10" 215 pound rebounding machine. Krecko played for Clinton Community College, here in Plattsburgh, 2 years ago and I was hoping he might transfer over to Plattsburgh State last year. Instead he went to DII Le Moyne College in Syracuse. Now he shows up on Oswego's roster. He appears in the team photo of Le Moyne's 2014-15 roster but his name has been deleted and he doesn't show up in their stat sheet from last year so I'm guessing he never played a minute for the Dolphins. (injury perhaps?) Oswego lists him as a junior so it would appear he has 2 years of eligibility left. At Clinton in 2013-14 Krecko averaged a double-double and the Clinton Cougars had one of the best years in school history. He routinely put up 15 to 20 points, with 15 to 20 rebounds and 4 to 8 blocks per game.

This is a write up from January 21, 2014 when he made the Athletes of the Week in the NJCAA Region III:

"Krecko led the Cougars to a 4-0 week averaging 22 points, 18 rebounds, 2 assists, and 6 blocks per game.  Over the weekend he helped lead the team to wins at #9 nationally ranked Mohawk Valley CC and Jefferson CC.  In the win at Mohawk Valley he scored 20 points on 10-11 shooting with 19 rebounds and 6 blocks.  He followed that against JCC with 20 points, 15 rebounds, and 8 blocks."


Quote from: All-Time on January 20, 2016, 10:22:26 AM
Where has this guy been all season?

Sitting in plain view on the Oswego State bench. :o

I watched a number of Laker games and I have been surprised to see that he has received very little playing time. I watched him in the Cazenovia game where he got 12 minutes of court time (mainly due to foul trouble on several of the starters, I believe) and he scored 9 points, grabbed 5 boards and had 3 blocks. He came into that game and the Lakers were only up 42-32 against a team they should have been blowing away. With Krecko now controlling the paint they went up by 20 in only 4 minutes. Saw him again in the Plattsburgh game when he came in and scored one minute after entering the game and 39 seconds later scored again and 1. He had 5 points and a rebound in 4 minutes and his 5 straight points were the only time the Oswego deficit got cut to single digits. Yet he spent the rest of the game on the bench. He did play 19 minutes the next day against Potsdam and only scored 2 points (only took 2 shots) but had 5 rebounds.

Last night against Brockport he nearly had a triple double. He had 12 points, 13 rebounds and 7 blocks. I also mentioned yesterday how Oswego seems to be missing the rebounding prowess of Rashawn Powell who was a senior last year. Well, in their victory over the Golden Eagles, the Lakers won the rebounding battle, just like they did last year with Powell, and Krecko is the reason they did. Perhaps Krecko is finally going to get his chance to prove himself. Personally I was hoping that he'd continue to languish on the Laker bench. You know what they say about waking sleeping giants. ;D

Quote from: All-Time on January 20, 2016, 10:22:26 AM
They looked like a the Championship team I saw last season with this guy on the floor.
Beware of Oswego, they found the piece to get them back on track.

I kept wondering what was taking them so long to discover him. I still do. I don't know the answer and it's easy to speculate, but there could be a host of reasons why he hasn't seen as much playing time as I thought he would get. What's obvious is the coaching staff didn't think he was good enough to be playing in crunch time of big games....or he would have been in there. Somebody thought he was a decent player though, as he was recruited by DII Le Moyne out of JC.  We'll see this weekend if he continues to see more court time or languish on the bench. I would think it would be the former after his display against Brockport.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 21, 2016, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 20, 2016, 08:38:55 PM
I guess it's good that Dave isn't influenced by the posters here. Just looks at the objective data. Although I would claim there is very little objective data. And a poll certainly isn't objective. What am I talking about?  ;D ??? ??? lol

Yes... what are you talking about?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 21, 2016, 01:51:25 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 21, 2016, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 20, 2016, 08:38:55 PM
I guess it's good that Dave isn't influenced by the posters here. Just looks at the objective data. Although I would claim there is very little objective data. And a poll certainly isn't objective. What am I talking about?  ;D ??? ??? lol

Yes... what are you talking about?

Sorry, I was in the process of writing part of my dissertation when I came here and did this. My brain was jumbled.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 21, 2016, 02:42:09 PM
Magicman
As you know I have been reading your posts for years.
I'm your biggest fan.
No question about it, you were the ONE that told all of us that Oswego got a big time transfer in Krecko.
I just got excited when I was watching the Oswego win over Brockport the other night. This kid can play and Oswego will definitely be a factor in the SUNYAC playoffs if this kid continues to play the way he played the other night.
I do apologize for not giving you A CALL OUT when I posted the other night.
It won't happen again ;D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2016, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 21, 2016, 02:42:09 PM
Magicman
As you know I have been reading your posts for years.
I'm your biggest fan.
No question about it, you were the ONE that told all of us that Oswego got a big time transfer in Krecko.
I just got excited when I was watching the Oswego win over Brockport the other night. This kid can play and Oswego will definitely be a factor in the SUNYAC playoffs if this kid continues to play the way he played the other night.
I do apologize for not giving you A CALL OUT when I posted the other night.
It won't happen again ;D

All-Time
Duly noted. :D

I just thought that you may not have been on the boards at the time I posted that stuff about Krecko because it was so early in the season and never spotted it. So, I gave you an out and you didn't take it. What a guy ;D  No apology necessary. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2016, 04:57:50 PM
Slight change of schedule to this weekend's SUNYAC games.

The Geneseo State at Plattsburgh State game scheduled for Friday evening has been postponed and will take place on Sunday afternoon at 3:00 PM The Women's game will follow at 5:00 PM.

The Geneseo game against Potsdam scheduled for Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM has been pushed back to 5:30 PM and the Women's game will follow at 7:30 PM.

So Geneseo and Plattsburgh will have Saturday and a rare Sunday game while all others will have the standard Friday night, Saturday afternoon games, with a slightly later start between Geneseo and Potsdam.


In addition to these weekend changes, the Cortland at Geneseo game that was postponed last Tuesday has been rescheduled and will take place this coming Tuesday January 26th. It will start at 7:30 PM as usual. The Women's game will start at the normal time of 5:30 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 21, 2016, 05:46:58 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 22, 2016, 02:54:32 PM
3 games on Tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Fredonia over New Paltz

Brockport over Potsdam

Oneonta by double digits over Buffalo State

Mike McElroy from Oneonta is 33 points away from a 1000 points.
Should get it this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 22, 2016, 02:54:32 PM
3 games on Tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Fredonia over New Paltz

Brockport over Potsdam

Oneonta by double digits over Buffalo State

Mike McElroy from Oneonta is 33 points away from a 1000 points.
Should get it this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2016, 04:42:11 PM
Friday January 22nd

Only three games on tap today because of the Plattsburgh State-Geneseo State postponement from today until Sunday.

Fredonia State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Blue Devils have certainly improved since the early part of the season and now appear to be a  threat to any team that they face. The Hawks meanwhile have struggled as their losing streak has now reached 11 games. Help is on the way but it's not the kind that will be beneficial to the Hawks as Ian Helps and his Blue Devil brothers will try to keep the Hawks winless in the YAC.

The Hawks have owned Fredonia over the past 5 years compiling a 9-1 record against them but the oddsmakers think the tide has turned and installed the Blue Devils as a 5 point road favorite. I think that Helps, if he comes close to duplicating his effort last time out (22 pts and 15 reb), will be a load, to heavy to handle, for New Paltz and will make them pay in the paint. Fredonia keeps their hopes for a playoff spot alive by winning this one 75-68. 


Buffalo State  at  Oneonta State        7:30 PM    Featured Game of the Night

Somewhere between Brockport and Buffalo the Bengals lost their mojo. How else can you explain a team that won back to back to back games over 3 very good teams, all on the road, only to follow up that string of victories with a lackadaisical effort against Potsdam and then drop 3 games in a row. Granted, all three of their losses were to some of the top teams in the YAC but two of those defeats came at home and we all know how important it is to protect your own house, especially in this conference, with the long road trips. The Bengals were playing catch up in every one of those losses and yet, they were the ones that got caught.

I've seen this act before, from other talented Buffalo State teams. Look great in stretches, then struggle and drop key games that force them to mount a stretch drive that comes up just short, or sends them on the road to a top seed, instead of playing in the comforts of home, come playoff time. Then it's one and done, wait'll next year. There is simply too much talent on this team for that too happen...yet it is occurring again... like a bad dream. Last time out they didn't play from behind, but they blew a late game, double digit lead, allowing Fredonia to force overtime. They prevailed in the extra session but nearly losing at home to one of the lower placed teams in the YAC doesn't bode well.

The Red Dragons on the other hand have been a big surprise in the conference as they sit all alone in 2nd place with a 5-1 record and a full 1 game lead over Geneseo and Cortland, who are tied for 3rd. If they are no  worse than 7-2 after the first time through the conference, they will be in great shape for a run at the top seed, I believe. To do that they will have to take care of business this weekend and at least split next week's tough road trip at Cortland and Oswego. (They will actually be 8-2 if they do that having already faced Oswego in a single game earlier.)

These teams have split the season series for the last 3 years with the home team winning every game. Oneonta has lost in Buffalo by double digits all 3 games but managed to win close games at home. 

The oddsmakers like the Red Dragons here, as they are favored by a 7 point margin. Bengals seem to play better on the road only losing in OT at Plattsburgh. I really have a nagging feeling that the Bengals are going to snap out of their funk tonight and help out my Cardinals by winning this game. The problem is that they have burned me too much recently, for me to chose them to do that. I think the Red Dragons, who have proven they are prime time players, will do just as they have for the past 3 seasons and win a close one here at home by an 87-83 final score. But I hope I'm wrong about that.               


   
Brockport State  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM

Which Potsdam State team will show up tonight. If it's the one who played like giant killers last Tuesday, then the Golden Eagles will have their hands full. It will be easy for Brockport to be focused on their big matchup tomorrow with Plattsburgh State, but if they look too far ahead they won't like what they find kicking them in the rear.

The Bears have nothing to lose. At this stage they are playing for pride and a chance to break into the SUNYAC  win column. No miracle is going to happen that will all of a sudden make this team playoff contenders. They will finish in 9th or 10th place in the final standings but a win over a top program like Brockport will go a long way in easing some of the disappointments of a long losing season. The Bears' losing streak is 7 games and now longer than the one they opened the season with.

Brockport has been made a heavy 15 point road favorite tonight and on paper there is no way you can pick the Bears to win this game. So I won't, but I can hope my alma mater has visions of days gone by and does pull off an upset here. The Eagles have won 9 straight games in this series and you have to go all the way back to January 7th, 2011 for the Bears last win over the Green and Gold. Port has already lost a game they should have won and it could cost them dearly as they are now tied for the 6th and final playoff spot. They are better than that and will win tonight's game by an 82-70 final score.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2016, 04:44:40 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 22, 2016, 02:54:32 PM
3 games on Tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Fredonia over New Paltz

Brockport over Potsdam

Oneonta by double digits over Buffalo State

Mike McElroy from Oneonta is 33 points away from a 1000 points.
Should get it this weekend.

That big Bengal cat must have got Bengalsrule's tongue on this post.  ???  :D

Or as Bill Shakespear said...Much ado about nothing.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 22, 2016, 04:51:34 PM
I hope you are right Magic!!They can't look ahead and must stay focused throughout the 40 minutes. Good luck Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 22, 2016, 04:44:40 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 22, 2016, 02:56:06 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 22, 2016, 02:54:32 PM
3 games on Tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Fredonia over New Paltz

Brockport over Potsdam

Oneonta by double digits over Buffalo State

Mike McElroy from Oneonta is 33 points away from a 1000 points.
Should get it this weekend.

That big Bengal cat must have got Bengalsrule's tongue on this post.  ???  :D

Or as Bill Shakespear said...Much ado about nothing.

I'm thinking that with this game tonight, at Oneonta , which has been horrible for us over the years, i just need to shut the h--l up!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2016, 08:06:19 PM
Brockport doubling up Potsdam 52-24 at the half.

Clifton Lyerly with 14 points for the Golden Eagles.
Hamed Shamseldin and Devonn Gavin with 9 each
Levi Pace with 6 points and 7 boards.

Nosa Onabor with 8 points to lead the Bears.

Plattsburgh must have brought out the best in Potsdam because this result is pretty anemic. This game is over already. Now Coach Dunne can rest his regulars in anticipation of tomorrow's battle with Plattsburgh. Good thing too because Plattsburgh got the night off and will be fresh instead of having a tough battle with Geneseo tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2016, 08:23:36 PM
Oneonta leads Buffalo State 44 -35  at the half. Oneonta gained the upper hand about halfway through the period when, tied at 18, the Red Dragons outscored the Bengals 11-1, to open up a 29-19 lead.

Live stats on the blink so no totals. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2016, 08:34:39 PM
New Paltz 20 minutes from their first conference win as they are ahead of Fredonia 40-33 at halftime.

Nick Paquette leads the Hawks with 10 points and RJ Rosa has 8.

Ian Helps with 16 for the Blue Devils and Kareem Brown with 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2016, 09:44:32 PM
Fredonia comes from behind to defeat New Paltz by a 66-64 final score.

Ian Helps scores on a layup with 1:02 left to play to put Fredonia in front. The Hawks had 2 possessions to score  or take the lead but missed a layup with 45 seconds left and missed a 3 point attempt at the buzzer.

Helps leads the Blue Devils with 26 points and 15 rebounds which are game highs in both categories. I said Helps would be too much for the Hawks to handle and if he duplicated his efforts of his last game they would win. Looks like he had just enough gas in his tank to pull out the W.

Kareem Browm had 14 points and 4 rebounds.


Nick Paquette had 14 points and 5 rebounds to lead the Hawks.  RJ Rosa had 10 points 5 assissts and 4 steals.


   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2016, 10:23:28 PM
Brockport 95   Potsdam 58

Golden Eagles up by 28 at the half, cruise to the 37 point victory. Potsdam up 2-0 for their only lead of the game. Brockport scored the next 9 points and the Eagles were off to the races. All 16 men for Brockport saw action with the reserves getting 129 minutes to only 71 for the starters. Brockport won't be any worse for wear than if they had put in a solid day of practice before the game with Plattsburgh.

Brockport's top pair once again led the team as Clifton Lyerly and Hamed Shamseldin both had 14 points. Levi Pace led the team with 8 rebounds and had 6 points. Devonn Gavin had 12 points and Josh Nelson had 9.

Nosa Onabor led the Bears with 15 points and 4 rebounds. Tyrons Adeyeye had 11 points.

Bears got killed on the boards 40-25 and had 28 turnovers to only 14 for Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2016, 12:47:28 AM
Good win...now time to get ready for New Paltz!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2016, 03:14:52 AM
Buffalo State 82  Oneonta State 73

Rumor has it that an assistant coach from Buffalo State was seen driving along the highway between Brockport and Buffalo looking for a black briefcase that contained the team's MOJO. It was also rumored that said briefcase, which was unmarked to avoid unnecessary attention, was inadvertently left behind by said assistant at a fast food stop, on their way back from the Brockport game on January 5th.

Not wanting to upset the other members of the coaching staff and the players on the Bengal team, the aforementioned assistant coach simply bought another lookalike briefcase, visited an out of town prestidigitator, to get some more MOJO, to put into the lookalike briefcase, and voila`...MOJO's back and no one's the wiser. Except fake MOJO doesn't cut it in the SUNYAC. The real Buffalo State MOJO contained remnants of the talents of past Bengal players from NBAer Randy Smith to recent Bengal superstars like Jake Simmons and Justin Mitchell, all safely stored in the MOJO case to be drawn upon by future Bengal teams as needed. That's the kind of stuff you can't put a price tag on. And you can't replace it by visiting an unknown, out of town, magicman. Even this magicman, with all my powers, couldn't have replaced the lost Buffalo State MOJO. I was able, however, once the said Buffalo State assistant coach called on me for help, (which he should have done immediately upon discovering the missing MOJO) look into my crystal ball and discover a clue as to the whereabouts of the lost MOJO briefcase. It has languished in the upstairs apartment of a part time worker from a Subway restaurant located just on the outskirts of Rochester. He found the briefcase in a stall inside a men's room at the Subway shop around 11 PM on the evening of Jan.5th. Thinking he had found a possible small fortune in unmarked bills that someone had left behind he put the briefcase in his car and brought it home. Unable to open the locked briefcase and not being a particularly educated person he has spent the past several weeks trying an assortment of keys to unlock his found "treasure trove". He contemplated breaking it open but having seen too many movies of exploding briefcases and afraid that this one also might be booby trapped, he has been patiently waiting for that magic key to turn up from all the various ones he has tried. His patience was wearing thin however, and the Buffalo State assistant coach, through clues provided by my crystal ball, was able to approach this individual just in time. He had made the decision that if the 2 keys he had purchased at a local pawn shop didn't open the case he was going to break it open by running over it with his car. The MOJO would have been damaged beyond repair had that occurred.  The coach was able to make a deal with him to buy back the missing briefcase. It really wasn't an expensive proposition for the coach as he only had to mention possible legal ramifications of failing to turn in found items to his supervisor at Subway. A couple of Andrew Jacksons and the MOJO was once again back where it belonged. And not a moment too soon, either. When the case showed up at halftime of the Buff State-Oneonta game, things didn't look too good for the Bengals.

The game started out with all the makings of a classic encounter as the teams fought through 4 ties and 5 lead changes through the first 10 minutes of play. With the Red Dragons down by a 19-18 score, Oneonta's Ian Schupp drained a 3 pointer that started an 11-0 run and gave the home team, a double digit 29-19 advantage, forcing the Bengals to take a time out. Oneonta would keep the pressure on and gained their largest lead of the half at 38-26 on another 3 pointer, this time by Grant Massaroni, followed by an inside move by Lawrence Coleman. Buffalo State countered with 5 points from Leon Moise, who cut the lead to 7 with his 2 free throws and 8 seconds on the clock. Oneonta's Jack Dignan buried a jumper at the buzzer however, to give the Red Dragons a 44-35 halftime edge.

The Buffalo State assistant coach had barely made his way into the Bengal's locker room, upon his return from Rochester with the missing MOJO briefcase, and had just enough time to squirrel it away in his locker, when the Bengals team thundered into the room. They were obviously not too happy with the way the previous 20 minutes of play had turned out. The coaching staff pointed out the problems on both ends of the floor, told the guys to set more screens and take good shots, and the assistant coach went over to one of the other assistants, who was temporarily in charge of the MOJO case...the fake MOJO case. I'll take that he said and after the team and staff returned to the gym, he, with a smile on his face, as big as the fabled cat that Alice ran into, tossd the fake MOJO case into an Oneonta dumpster out the back door and rejoined the team with the real, honest to goodness, black and orange, Randy Smith infused, MOJO. The coach was finally off the hook, and no one was the wiser. The stage was set.

Whatever it was that took place at halftime, the coaching staff's advice or the return of their MOJO, the Bengals, after a few minutes of trading baskets, began to slowly chip away at the Oneonta lead. A pair of 3 pointers by Bengals' Jordan Glover and Mike Henry, sandwiched a layup by the Red Dragons Jackson Zuvic to narrow the gap to a 5 point 51-46 Oneonta lead. Still down 54-51 with 14 minutes left, the Bengals got back to back layups from Nico McLean and Lovell Smith to give them their first lead since midway through the first half.

The cheers disappeared in a hurry though as the Red Dragons shot out to another 8 point lead and it took all of a minute and 16 seconds. Back to back jumpers by Ian Schupp, followed by a steal and layup by Mikey McElroy made it 60-55. A Bengal foul and a technical resulted in 3 Red Dragon free throws. Oneonta made them all and the place was rockin. The lead was 63-55 with 11:06 to play.

Plenty of time for the Bengals, a team who has had quite a few comebacks already this year, to do so again. And now they had their MOJO back. And comeback they did. A jumper by Lovell Smith was followed by a drive by Redell Freeman to cut the lead to 4. After Oneonta made 1 of 2 from the line, Jordan Glover buried a three ball and the deficit was 2 points and it was now officially a barnburner.

Two possessions later the Bengals' Ryniek Holloway scored inside and the score was tied at 64 with 7:24 to go. Oneonta tried to stop the bleeding with a 3 pointer that misfired and the Bengals came down, went inside to Mike Henry, who gave them the lead once again. The Red Dragons came up empty again on their possession and the Bengals went inside once more, this time to Nico McLean. Both teams missed numerous opportunities over the next 4 minutes of play. The Bengals failed to score a singe point and the Red Dragons weren't much better but they did go to the foul line and managed to hit 4 free throws in 6 attempts to knot the score at 68 with 2:33 left to play. The Bengals missed 4 shots committed 3 fouls and had a turnover, once they got that 4 point lead. Oneonta missed 2 shots and had a turnover in between 3 trips to the line.

After Oneonta tied the game from the line the Bengals' Lovell Smith hit a jumper for the lead and when Oneonta missed a three on their end, Nico McLean made it a 2 possession game with an inside move and layin. With 1:15 left to play the Red Dragons opted for another 3 point attempt and again had no luck. Smith was fouled and he made them both to boost the lead to 6.

So just when you think a lead is fairly safe, Ian Schupp hits a 3 pointer, and after a Bengal turnover, Schupp drains another one and the score is 74-73 with 20 seconds left. Oneonta fouls McLean immediately and he makes them both and this time Schupp can't pull off a third bomb. Jordan Glover is fouled and he makes a pair to put the game away. With the score 78-73 and only 9 seconds left Oneonta has run out of time. Jack Dignan throws up an errant 3 point attempt with 3 ticks left and Glover is fouled again, just before the buzzer sounds. A technical is also called and Glover ends the game making 4 free throws. I'd call that piling on, which made the final 82-73.

It's obvious that the return of the Bengals' MOJO was largely responsible for this victory. The Buff State team accomplished several things that they haven't done in a while. They won back to back game which they haven't done since right after they lost their MOJO. They won in Oneonta which they haven't done since December 2, 2011 and they made 12 straight shots in a row, 2 from the field and 10 from the the free throw line. I know damn well they haven't done that in a long, long time , so yeah getting their MOJO back, thanks to the magicman, was the real reason they came through tonight.

Jordan Glover broke out of his funk with a 5x10 effort from 3 point land, along with 6x6 from the line and captured game high scoring honors with 21 points. He also had 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Nico McLean had a big game with a double-double of 18 points and a game high 10 rebounds. He also had 5 steals and 2 assists.

Lovell Smith had 15 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists. Leon Moise had 9 points and 5 rebounds.

Mike Henry had a solid all around game with 7 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals.

Buffalo State had a slight advantage in the rebounding battle grabbing 44 to 39 for Oneonta, but did have a substantial margin in offensive rebounds grabbing 18 boards on their own end to only 7 offensive rebounds for the Dragons. Oneonta actually outshot the Bengals from the field and from downtown, while Buff State won at the line and most decisively won the turnover battle. The Bengals came into this game averaging 15.9 turnovers a game. Tonight they had a season low 6 turnovers. The Red Dragons had 18. The Bengals got 21 points off turnovers, the Red Dragons got 11. The 10 points there and the 10 point differential in second chance points, because of the excellent job that the Bengals did on the offensive glass, account for the major reasons the Bengals won this game....and the return of their MOJO of course. ;D

Oneonta had 4 players hit double figures and sophomore Ian Schupp came off the bench to lead them in scoring with a career high of 19 points. He broke his previous career high of 16 points that he set last year while in an Oswego State uniform. Tonight he was 7x14 from the field and 3x5 from long distance.

Mikey McElroy, Jackson Zuvic and Lawrence Coleman all dropped in 12 points. Coleman had 6 rebounds, Zuvic had 5 and McElroy had 4. McElroy also had 3 assists, a block, a steal and now only needs 21 points to hit 1000 for his career. Grant Massroni had 8 points and 5 rebounds off the bench. Kareem Williams had 8 rebounds to lead the team in that area.

The Bengals will travel down to New Paltz to take on the Hawks at 4:00 PM this afternoon . They improve to 11-5 overall and 5-4 in the YAC and sole possession of 5th place.

Oneonta will now take on Fredonia at 4:00 PM later today. They drop to 10-4 overall and 5-2 in the YAC. They remain in 2nd place all by themselves, a half game ahead of idle Cortland. They fall a full 2 games behind idle Plattsburgh in the standings.

6 more games left this weekend that could alter the landscape considerably. I'm happy because the Bengals did my Cardinals a big favor Friday night. Regardless of how we fare this weekend, we will still be in first place by ourselves, come Monday morning. 8-)                                   


                       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 23, 2016, 11:48:40 AM
Magicman...enjoyed your post!  Good grief you either are looking for a side job at SI :) and/ or have TOO much time on your hands?
Will the weather impact any of the games in your region?  There maybe impacts in the NE conferences.  Me, only immediate worry is power lost and therefore missing games online.
Keep warm and safe.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2016, 12:54:42 PM
amh63,

We are extremely fortunate and have not received a single snowflake. The weatherman says the storm will miss us completely. Brockport State team was in Potsdam last night (90 miles away) and was in Plattsburgh with no problems a bit later. Looking forward to a good game against the Golden Eagles. It usually is. Glad you enjoyed the  story.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2016, 02:32:46 PM
Saturday January 23  All 10 teams in action

Buffalo State  at  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

Their MOJO is back and the Bengals look to keep their new winning streak alive. The Hawks won't find any answers for their ailments this afternoon. The point spread favors the Bengals by 15, as they have won 8 of the last 10 meetings. Tonight should be more of the same...Buff State 88 New Paltz 74.
 
Cortland State  at  Oswego State        4:00 PM

This is always an exciting game when these 2 Central New York rivals hook up and tonight will be no different.
The teams split the series last year but the Lakers hold a 9-4 edge over the last 5 years.

Lakers are in unfamiliar territory at the present time in 8th place looking up. They may have found a big guy that everyone else will be looking up at. Does 6'10" Mykelle Krecko play an important role in tonight's game and the Lakers' future going forward? Or does he continue to get spot minutes and basically be a non-factor? Was his breakout game against Brockport a fluke? Or will  there be more performances like that forthcoming? Inquiring minds want to know. Lakers look to extend their short winning streak.

These Red Dragons look to bounce back from a 3 game week that saw them drop 2 of 3 in the YAC. Both games were tough losses, especially the last second heartbreaker to Geneseo. Cortland tied with those Knights for 3rd place at the moment, will invade Geneseo next Tuesday for the rematch.

The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a slight road favorite over the Lakers but I think that Oswego , in a need to win mode, will pull this one out at Laker Hall. Final score... Oswego 74 Cortland 71.     


Fredonia State  at  Oneonta State        4:00 PM

Freds got lucky last night and escaped from new Paltz with a W. Tonight their luck runs out. Angry Red Dragons do not make  a gracious host and these Red Dragons are not happy. Losing at home for the 2nd time in 5 starts in the YAC generally does that. A loss tonight could drop Oneonta into 4th place, quite a tumble from where they are.

Fredonia is looking to win back to back games for the first time this year. They are also looking to move into a playoff spot. If they win and Brockport loses to Plattsburgh today they will be all alone in the 6th and final spot into the tournament.

The oddsmakers don't think that will happen though, and neither do I. They have made the Red Dragons a 15 point home favorite, which sounds about right. Oneonta takes this one 81-66.


Geneseo State  at  Potsdam State        5:30 PM


This game got pushed back a bit and will be played before the Women's game in a bit of an anomaly.
After the sad news from Geneseo over the weekend the Knights will probably be glad to put that behind them and get back to the business of qualifying for the YAC playoffs.

After an 0-2 start to their conference season, the Knights have responded with a 4 game winning streak to climb intoa tie for 3rd place with Cortland. A pair of wins this weekend could find them all alone in 2nd. With the Bears up first instead of the Cardinals, as originally scheduled, the Knights will get the benefit of that change, as they now will face Plattsburgh after the Cardinals will be forced to contend with a tough Brockport team.   

Potsdam will look to get back on track...if not a winning track, then one a bit more competitive than they were last night against the Golden Eagles, who made short work of them in a first half blowout that made the 2nd anti-climatic. This team can play, but has trouble doing so for a full 60 minutes. One of these nights....

The oddsmakers have made the Knights  a 16 point favorite here and it's hard to find a reason to doubt that spread. Ringen and Decker and Co. are just too much. Geneseo comes backs strong and wins by an 85-66 final score.   


Brockport State  at  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM The Featured Game of the Day

One of the best rivalries in the conference is between these two teams and today's game will be no different than past barnburners. Plattsburgh is flying high with an undefeated conference record and no one has been better at bringing the Cardinals down to earth than the predatory Golden Eagles. These teams have played 12 times in the past 5 years and their record is 6-6. Plattsburgh holds a slight 11-8 edge over the past 9 years.

Brockport is holding down the 6th and final playoff spot with Fredonia hot on their heels. But it's the Lakers down in the 8th place spot that the Golden Eagles need to worry about. That team will be rising and threaten to knock one of the playoff contenders/pretenders out of the picture. The Eagles are more of a contender than a pretender and a win today would help that picture out considerably.

Can the Cardinals continue to play a well as they have during their current 8 game winning steak? We saw signs of a slip in the first half of the Potsdam game when they trailed the Bears by a whopping (for them) 12 points at the half. The Cards came out on fire however and doubled the Bears' 2nd half output to win going away. They need to play that way for an entire game if they want to be successful today against Brockport.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a solid 7 point favorite at home in Memorial Hall. With everybody healthy, the Cards will have no excuses if they don't get the job done. I think they will as Brockport always seems to bring out their best....the Cards best that is...but Brockport always brings their best as well. That means two teams at their best....a hoops fans dream. Plattsburgh comes out on top by an 83-77 final.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2016, 02:47:22 PM
Plus k  Magic 1!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 23, 2016, 03:09:01 PM
A ton of snow in lower NY, just got back from shoveling my driveway. i did not old man winter at all.

Geneseo over Potsdam

Oswego over Cortland

Oneonta over Fredonia

Bengalsrule's Buffalo State over New Platz

Magicmans Cardinals over Brockport

I have to go back outside and finish my driveway so I can witness the craziness of the SUNYAC starting at 4pm

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 23, 2016, 03:10:02 PM
I meant to say I did not MISS old man winter at all
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2016, 04:37:24 PM
Oswego 34, Cortland 33 at intermission. A. Rawa 13 pts. pacing the Lakers. M. Kelly and JP Reagan 7 pts. each for the Corts. Oswego junior B. Sortino strikes for career 1,000th point and has 7 in this matinee.

Neither side shooting well ... both in the 30s percentile. Oswego 6x16 3s, Cortland 3x7. See-sawish action. Cortland has led by four, OSt by three

Brockport 38, Plattsburgh 28 at halftime. Port hitting fg's at 48% clip, the Burgh 27%

Buffalo St. and New Paltz squared at 36 midway

Oneonta 48, Fredonia 32 at the break
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 23, 2016, 05:37:23 PM
Cortland 66, Oswego 62, final .........RDragons by nine at the 2' mark. Survive Laker finishing flourish including two opportunities to tie. JP Reagan clinches for guests with two free throws in final seconds. Corts at 43 percent from the field (5x14 3s). OSt 38 percent (7x27 3s, 13x13ft).
Five Cortlands score in double figures. TJ Hefele in starting role with 11 pts(5x9fg), B. Estarfaa 11 pts and 3 assts, M. Kelly 10 pts(4x6fg) in 28', C. Joseph 11 pts and 7 rebs, Reagan 11 pts. Oswego's B. Sortino with 22 pts (6x15fg, 9x9ft),  A. Rawa 18 pts. (4x6 3s) and 10 rebs.
Dragons trail by five before  14-0 run. Lead 52-49 at 7:12. Estarfaa with 3-pter at 6:22, then feeds Hefele for another trey at 5:37 for 58-49 edge

Oneonta 95, Fredonia 66, final. RDragons 61 percent from the field. M. McElroy 22 pts(9x13fg), I. Schupp 19 pts(7x10fg). The senior McElroy pours in his 1,000th career point; Soph Schupp heads up a 47 pt. bench brigade

New Paltz 81, Buffalo St. 77, final. Hawks' junior A. Seniuk 24 pts(10x12fg). Homestanding NP fires 29x53fg and 6x12 3s highlighting an end to 12 game losing skein and first conference win. Up by seven at 3:48 and down the stretch get clutch FTing from frosh M. Misser, B. Guest and RJ Rosa

Brockport 74, Plattsburgh 63, final. Port's D. Gavin 19 pts(7x14fg), 5 rebs. Eagles hit 40% of their fielders. Cards at 34% shooting, just 18% in 3s. K. Richardson 16 pts(4x14fg), 11 rebs; X. Thomas 15 pts(6x12fg), 10 rebs

Geneseo 89, Potsdam 70, final. J. Ringen 33 pts(11x18fg, 7x8 3s), 4x4ft, 5rebs, 3assts, 2stls in 35'. J. Decker 26 pts(10x18fg, 5x9 3s), 4rebs, 8assts in 29'. Gens 32x67fg, 13x28 3s. Five Bears score double digits led by N. Onabor's 17 pts, 5 rebs
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2016, 12:12:32 PM
Quality win followed by a horrible loss. Give the Hawks credit...they came to play. I wish I could say the same for my beloved BENGALS. After going 24-30 (80%) from the free throw line Friday night (vs Oneonta), we follow that up with 23- 34 (67.6%) vs New Paltz. Ditto for assists to turnovers. Friday night 13 assist with only 6 turnovers. Saturday?  14 turnovers with 16 assists.

Don't have too long for a pity party (in fact no time at all). Plattsburgh is next up on the BENGALS schedule. However there's one scene from last night that I'll never forget.

  After the game ended last night I went downstairs to help console my BENGALS. Both teams, BENGALS and Hawks, meet in rooms about 30 feet apart. As I stood out side the BENGALS room visiting with the Buff State coaches, we could see the Hawks entering their room. 1 Hawk player stood at their door (holding it open) and advised everyone to wait for "This person" .."wait for that person". The last 1 who walked into their room was their assistant coach "Weary" or something like that. They then closed the door and let out what I can only describe as the most exuberant celebration that I have ever heard in my  years of following SUNYAC basketball. The noise was deafening and you could hear their shouts of joy throughout the hallways of the Hawk athletic complex. I've never heard anything quite that loud. Not in SUNYAC playoffs..not when Buff State won the Championship in 2011. Quite simply...it was the loudest post game locker room celebration that I have heard from a college locker room...EVER!

   Before the game I was talking to a former Hawk assistant coach, Keith Sobel, about the atmosphere around campus since the unfortunate car accident of 3 of their players.  He told me that 1 of their players was still in a coma...and has been for quite some time. That player was being transferred to a new location. I learned that the New Paltz community still carries a lot of pain from what happened to those players, but specifically what the 1 player (who's name I wont mention) is still going through. Since that unfortunate accident, leading up to last nights game,  the Hawks had gone 0-5.

Something tells me that last night's win, for New Paltz, was about more than just basketball!!!!!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2016, 02:30:52 PM
Sunday January 24th 1 game on tap

Geneseo State at Plattsburgh State  3:00 PM

The Knights can move into a 2nd place tie and put 4 teams all even in the loss column with a win today at Plattsburgh. The Cardinals hope to avoid their 1st losing streak of the season and continue to keep some distance from their closest pursuers.

The Cardinals will need to stop the high scoring tandem of Justin Ringen and John Decker. Last night they combined on 59 of the Knights 89 points against the Bears. Stop them, especially from the 3 point line, and you win, it's pretty simple. Plattsburgh looking to avoid a 2nd consecutive home loss as well.

Oddsmakesr have the Cards listed as a 5 point home favorite and it should be another close game in Memorial Hall. Last year, the Knights were able to win the game in Plattsburgh and the Cards returned the favor by winning in Geneseo. Cards have won 5 of the past 8 games and 9 of 14 over the past 6 years. Plattsburgh gets back on the winning track, today with an 84-80 win.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on January 24, 2016, 02:38:19 PM
Going to watch Plattsburgh/Geneseo online today... should be a good one
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2016, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2016, 12:12:32 PM

  After the game ended last night I went downstairs to help console my BENGALS. Both teams, BENGALS and Hawks, meet in rooms about 30 feet apart. As I stood out side the BENGALS room visiting with the Buff State coaches, we could see the Hawks entering their room. 1 Hawk player stood at their door (holding it open) and advised everyone to wait for "This person" .."wait for that person". The last 1 who walked into their room was their assistant coach "Weary" or something like that. They then closed the door and let out what I can only describe as the most exuberant celebration that I have ever heard in my  years of following SUNYAC basketball. The noise was deafening and you could hear their shouts of joy throughout the hallways of the Hawk athletic complex. I've never heard anything quite that loud. Not in SUNYAC playoffs..not when Buff State won the Championship in 2011. Quite simply...it was the loudest post game locker room celebration that I have heard from a college locker room...EVER!

   Before the game I was talking to a former Hawk assistant coach, Keith Sobel, about the atmosphere around campus since the unfortunate car accident of 3 of their players.  He told me that 1 of their players was still in a coma...and has been for quite some time. That player was being transferred to a new location. I learned that the New Paltz community still carries a lot of pain from what happened to those players, but specifically what the 1 player (who's name I wont mention) is still going through. Since that unfortunate accident, leading up to last nights game,  the Hawks had gone 0-5.

Something tells me that last night's win, for New Paltz, was about more than just basketball!!!!!

Go BENGALS!

It is more than basketball for that team. It has been for awhile.

I have known more details, but the family has not wanted people to know more details, thus I have been tight lipped. It is a very long recovery for that young man - plain and simple.

Very happy the team was at least as respectful as they could be (by the sound of what you are describing) in their celebration... which they deserve to do for so many reasons beyond the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2016, 05:02:43 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2016, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2016, 12:12:32 PM

  After the game ended last night I went downstairs to help console my BENGALS. Both teams, BENGALS and Hawks, meet in rooms about 30 feet apart. As I stood out side the BENGALS room visiting with the Buff State coaches, we could see the Hawks entering their room. 1 Hawk player stood at their door (holding it open) and advised everyone to wait for "This person" .."wait for that person". The last 1 who walked into their room was their assistant coach "Weary" or something like that. They then closed the door and let out what I can only describe as the most exuberant celebration that I have ever heard in my  years of following SUNYAC basketball. The noise was deafening and you could hear their shouts of joy throughout the hallways of the Hawk athletic complex. I've never heard anything quite that loud. Not in SUNYAC playoffs..not when Buff State won the Championship in 2011. Quite simply...it was the loudest post game locker room celebration that I have heard from a college locker room...EVER!

   Before the game I was talking to a former Hawk assistant coach, Keith Sobel, about the atmosphere around campus since the unfortunate car accident of 3 of their players.  He told me that 1 of their players was still in a coma...and has been for quite some time. That player was being transferred to a new location. I learned that the New Paltz community still carries a lot of pain from what happened to those players, but specifically what the 1 player (who's name I wont mention) is still going through. Since that unfortunate accident, leading up to last nights game,  the Hawks had gone 0-5.

Something tells me that last night's win, for New Paltz, was about more than just basketball!!!!!

Go BENGALS!

It is more than basketball for that team. It has been for awhile.

I have known more details, but the family has not wanted people to know more details, thus I have been tight lipped. It is a very long recovery for that young man - plain and simple.

Very happy the team was at least as respectful as they could be (by the sound of what you are describing) in their celebration... which they deserve to do for so many reasons beyond the game.

Very respectful.  Extremely jubilant...but respectful. And I couldn't agree with you more Dave!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2016, 06:26:36 PM
Final score Plattsburgh State 98 Geneseo State 87
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 24, 2016, 11:59:32 PM
Magicman,
   Hoopsville had ETBU's coach on tonight and I think he said that Samuel had used up his eligibility last month so he wouldn't be playing anymore.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2016, 06:05:27 AM
Quote from: ronk on January 24, 2016, 11:59:32 PM
Magicman,
   Hoopsville had ETBU's coach on tonight and I think he said that Samuel had used up his eligibility last month so he wouldn't be playing anymore.

ronk,

Thanks for letting me know. Plus K. My search is over thanks to you. I missed the show tonight as Plattsburgh had a rare Sunday afternoon game due to schedule changes with Geneseo. Then came home and got some much needed shut eye. Had to tape both NFL games since I was courtside while the Pats-Broncos played and sleeping while the Panthers-Cardinals played.

I just listened to the Hoopsville show on replay and you're right... the East Texas Baptist coach did verify that he's out of eligibility. 

I briefly considered the fact that he ran out of eligibility but they were still listing him on the roster and I thought if he wasn't eligible he would have been deleted. I figured he must be hurt and kept hoping I'd see his name in a box score. Now I know I won't. Usually if a guy only has 1 semester of eligibility left, they sit out the first semester and join the team for the stretch run. Maybe he had a chance to graduate at the end of the 1st semester and that's why he didn't, but if he's still in school he made a funny choice to play the 1st semester instead of the 2nd.It certainly screwed up my chances in the futures league. Figures the one guy in the draft who only has 1 semester of eligibilty and uses it for the 1st semester ends up on my team. :P I know I won't be much of a threat in the futures league with no Samuels and no Medenjanin from Skidmore. The old "wait'll next year" has officially kicked in...already. ::)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 25, 2016, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2016, 06:05:27 AM
Quote from: ronk on January 24, 2016, 11:59:32 PM
Magicman,
   Hoopsville had ETBU's coach on tonight and I think he said that Samuel had used up his eligibility last month so he wouldn't be playing anymore.

ronk,

Thanks for letting me know. Plus K. My search is over thanks to you. I missed the show tonight as Plattsburgh had a rare Sunday afternoon game due to schedule changes with Geneseo. Then came home and got some much needed shut eye. Had to tape both NFL games since I was courtside while the Pats-Broncos played and sleeping while the Panthers-Cardinals played.

I just listened to the Hoopsville show on replay and you're right... the East Texas Baptist coach did verify that he's out of eligibility. 

I briefly considered the fact that he ran out of eligibility but they were still listing him on the roster and I thought if he wasn't eligible he would have been deleted. I figured he must be hurt and kept hoping I'd see his name in a box score. Now I know I won't. Usually if a guy only has 1 semester of eligibility left, they sit out the first semester and join the team for the stretch run. Maybe he had a chance to graduate at the end of the 1st semester and that's why he didn't, but if he's still in school he made a funny choice to play the 1st semester instead of the 2nd.It certainly screwed up my chances in the futures league. Figures the one guy in the draft who only has 1 semester of eligibilty and uses it for the 1st semester ends up on my team. :P I know I won't be much of a threat in the futures league with no Samuels and no Medenjanin from Skidmore. The old "wait'll next year" has officially kicked in...already. ::)   

Might be worth an appeal to the NCAA; at least, it will give them a chance to vet their appeal mechanism. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on January 25, 2016, 06:29:40 PM
Something tells me that last night's win, for New Paltz, was about more than just basketball!!!!![/bengals rule quote]

This board is amazing....  Magic's post on 1/23/2016 at 3:14.52 AM was among the funniest moments in my basketball lifetime and Bengalsrule quote above may be one of the most poignant!!  plus karma to both as I am now armed and dangerous when it comes to Karma!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2016, 12:05:30 AM
Quote from: with age came? on January 25, 2016, 06:29:40 PM
Something tells me that last night's win, for New Paltz, was about more than just basketball!!!!![/bengals rule quote]

This board is amazing....  Magic's post on 1/23/2016 at 3:14.52 AM was among the funniest moments in my basketball lifetime and Bengalsrule quote above may be one of the most poignant!!  plus karma to both as I am now armed and dangerous when it comes to Karma!! :)

;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2016, 05:14:40 AM
New D3hoops Top 25 poll out on Monday night.

Plattsburgh State is the only SUNYAC school receiving any mention as the Cardinals check in with 16 points, good enough for the #33 spot. Last week they had 22 points and the#32 spot. After a 2-1 week they got a little less support. A 3-0 week may have moved them into the Top 25 but I knew that was asking too much. Happy with a 2-1 week as they continue to retain sole possession of 1st place. Another big week of game in the YAC as we continue to beat up on each other. My Cardinals with a tough road trip to face a talented Buffalo State team on Friday and a resurgent Fredonia team on Saturday. The Blue Devils are 4-4 in their last 8 games after starting out 1-7 in their first 8 games.     

Lancaster Bible as predicted moved up a couple of spots as they remain undefeated and will continue to do so in the NEAC conference. They moved up from #20 to #18. Their point total increased from 114 to 131. I expect them to peak at around the #13 or #14 spot as they continue to remain unbeaten, inching up a spot or so at a time, over the next 3 weeks.

NYU dropped a few spots from #17 down to #22 as they lost 96 points from the voters. Seems like this happens every year with the Violets, as I mentioned earlier.

Oneonta who went 1-1 last week  and St John Fisher who lost the only game they played both failed to get any points this time around. No other team in the East Region received any points.

Here's a link to the complete Top 25 poll:     http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2016, 05:47:34 AM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 1-24 was the same guy who was Player of the Week last week...Justin Ringen.  This marks the 3rd time this season that Justin has won the weekly award having also won it back on December 7th. I failed to check last Monday to see who won the award so I've included the write up from the SUNYAC website for both weeks.

This week that just ended:

MEN'S BASKETBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK – Justin Ringen (JR)
Geneseo, Guard (Huntington, N.Y./Harborfields)
"Justin Ringen averaged 27.5 points and 5.5 rebounds while shooting 51.4% from long range in a pair of games for the Knights last week. He scored a career-high 33 points, including 7-of-8 three-pointers, and grabbed five rebounds at Potsdam on Saturday before totaling 22 points and grabbing six boards at Plattsburgh on Sunday."

I got to witness the 22 points at Plattsburgh on Sunday. After Justin and his teammates ripped the Cardinals vaunted 3 point defense for ten first half triples I was more than a little worried about the outcome of the game. The Cardinals were able to limit the Knights to only four 3 pointers in the second half and we were fortunate to come away with a W. I don't know if we will be so lucky when we meet them in Geneseo.

Got a chance to meet and speak with Justin after the game. Nice young man and a very good player. Taller than I thought he was as I had him as being around 6'3". He's definitely 6'5". He was sitting in the bleachers as the ladies were taking the floor,for their game. Next to him was Cardinal player, Jon Patron, who went to the same high school as Justin. Would have liked to have seen Justin here at Plattsburgh State, I know we wanted him. If we had Justin on this year's team, I'd pencil us in for the Final Four right now. Just dreamin.

Here's the SUNYAC write up for the week ending 1-17 when Justin also won the weekly hardware:

MEN'S BASKETBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK – Justin Ringen (JR)
Geneseo, Guard  (Huntington, N.Y. / Harborfields)
"Justin Ringen averaged 21.7 points and 6.7 rebounds in three road victories for Geneseo last week. He started with 17 points and nine rebounds in a 77-76 victory at Cortland on Tuesday, before pouring in 28 points, including 7-of-11 three-pointers, in an 87-80 win at Fredonia on Friday. He finished the week with 20 points (all in the second half) in a 79-72 win at Buffalo State."

Sorry I missed this the first time around Justin, I'll apologize to you in person when (I hope ) you make a return visit to Plattsburgh on February 26th for the SUNYAC Tournament Semifinals. ;D

       
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2016, 05:14:40 AM
NYU dropped a few spots from #17 down to #22 as they lost 96 points from the voters. Seems like this happens every year with the Violets, as I mentioned earlier.

Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why I don't grasp why some of the Top 25 voters keep voting for them in the out-of-conference schedule. I did it once and got burned. Won't do it again unless I see an out-of-conference schedule worth voting for. Considering the schedule they put together for themselves this year, they SHOULD have a good record. But it doesn't NOTHING to prepare them for UAA play and that is what I am waiting for now-a-days with NYU. I am impressed that they didn't go 0-2 this past week and beat Wash U, but let's be honest... that isn't the Wash U team we are accustomed to - they are having an off season.

I know NYU ducks teams when they start to get better. There are a few NJ teams who have improved, beaten NYU in the past, and no longer get a call back regarding future games. What frustrates me even more, coaches use Top 25 rankings as recruiting items/tactics. I know when I am voting for a team that the coach will use that not only in promotion but in recruiting. If a coach can simply say, we are ranked in the Top 25 eight of the last ten years, the recruit as NO idea what that really means. But the rest of us know that NYU is being ranked in the first half when they put up gaudy records which mean nothing when they hit conference play. I don't want to be part of that ploy and I hope more of my Top 25 voters will start thinking the same way in the future.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2016, 05:22:46 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2016, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2016, 05:14:40 AM
NYU dropped a few spots from #17 down to #22 as they lost 96 points from the voters. Seems like this happens every year with the Violets, as I mentioned earlier.

Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why I don't grasp why some of the Top 25 voters keep voting for them in the out-of-conference schedule. I did it once and got burned. Won't do it again unless I see an out-of-conference schedule worth voting for. Considering the schedule they put together for themselves this year, they SHOULD have a good record. But it doesn't NOTHING to prepare them for UAA play and that is what I am waiting for now-a-days with NYU. I am impressed that they didn't go 0-2 this past week and beat Wash U, but let's be honest... that isn't the Wash U team we are accustomed to - they are having an off season.

I know NYU ducks teams when they start to get better. There are a few NJ teams who have improved, beaten NYU in the past, and no longer get a call back regarding future games. What frustrates me even more, coaches use Top 25 rankings as recruiting items/tactics. I know when I am voting for a team that the coach will use that not only in promotion but in recruiting. If a coach can simply say, we are ranked in the Top 25 eight of the last ten years, the recruit as NO idea what that really means. But the rest of us know that NYU is being ranked in the first half when they put up gaudy records which mean nothing when they hit conference play. I don't want to be part of that ploy and I hope more of my Top 25 voters will start thinking the same way in the future.

I agree with everything you said as I've stated the same thing about this program for as long as I can remember. And you're right about the 1-1 week they had. Wash U is not the Wash U we are used to seeing, so a win over them is not nearly what it would have been in past years. I thought it was interesting that KnightSlappy's Regional Rankings has NYU at #7 in the East behind 4 SUNYAC teams. NYU barely has a SOS better than SUNY-Canton, an Independent, who has a tougher time finding D3 teams to play. And KS has the Kangaroos ranked in front of them. NYU wouldn't even make the ranking if they were released today, as only the Top 6 schools from the East get listed.

For anyone that's interested...Here's a link to the latest Regional Rankings that KnightSlappy has compiled. These are updated, usually every Tuesday. They are not official but until the real ones come out they are a fairly good indicator of where teams are in the D3 pecking order by Region. Enjoy!

http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2016, 06:23:46 PM
Tuesday, Jan. 26     Just a single game tonight in the SUNYAC.   

Cortland State      Geneseo State      7:30 PM

These 2 teams went at it hot and heavy just 2 weeks ago in Cortland. That one went down to the wire and the Red Dragons thought they had pulled one out, on a Blair Estarfaa 3 pointer with 18 seconds left to go, to put them in front by a 76-75 margin. Hold everything said the Knights John Decker, as he came down and buried a jumper, with 5 ticks on the clock, to give Geneseo the win.

The guys from Cortland will have that one on their mind and sure hope to reverse the outcome of tonight's game. These Red Dragons can move into a tie for 2nd place with those other Red Dragons from Oneonta if they take care of the Knights this evening. Geneseo, currently 4th in the standings, can take over sole possession of 3rd place with a victory tonight. Both teams looking to keep that number in the loss column from getting larger.

The oddsmakers, somewhat surprisingly, have made the Red Dragons a 2 point road favorite. I say surprisingly because these two teams are only ranked a couple of placements apart in the ratings system with Cortland  coming in at #88 and Geneseo holding down the #91 spot. Usually that means the home team would benefit from the point spread.

I watched the Knights play just 2 days ago and they are scary good with great shooters. They are deadly from the line and the arc. Justin Ringen and John Decker can both carry the team if one of them is not on the floor and when they are both out there at the same time the Knights disciplined passing game seems to find the open shooter. They take a lot of 3 point shots...they also make a lot of 3 point shots. Having said that about the Knights..well I could say many of the same things about the Cortland shooters. They will also take a lot of shots from outside the arc and Estarfaa, JP Reagan, and Michael Kelly are hard to stop as well. Last game Cortland took 25 shots from downtown and Geneseo took 15. On Sunday I watched Geneseo take 37 shots from behind the arc...and they made 14 of them. And Plattsburgh has (or had) the #1 three point defense in the country at the time.

Tough one to pick tonight but having seen Geneseo in person, so recently, they left a solid impression on me and how tough it's going to be for my Cardinals to go into Alumni Fieldhouse and walk out of there with a win, on the last day of the regular season. I'm hoping that whatever position my Cardinals are shooting for that last week of the season, they will have already clinched it before February 20th. Tonight I'm picking the Knight to win this one at home by an 84-80 final score     



   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 26, 2016, 07:10:24 PM
I agree with the Magicman
Geneseo over Cortland
Don't think it will be that close
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2016, 08:11:00 PM
Geneseo opens fast and clings to 34-29 halftime lead over guest Cortland. J. Ringer with 18 pts for the Knights, J. Cooper 13(5x7fg) off the bench for the Corts. Gens by as many as 14. Cortland climbs within 32-29. J. Eisenberg connects at the buzzer

Cortland squared at 34 two minutes into the second half. On 7-0 run to take brief lead before Knights score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2016, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2016, 05:22:46 PM

For anyone that's interested...Here's a link to the latest Regional Rankings that KnightSlappy has compiled. These are updated, usually every Tuesday. They are not official but until the real ones come out they are a fairly good indicator of where teams are in the D3 pecking order by Region. Enjoy!

http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/

Top 7 - (Knightslappy)
EA   1   Oneonta State           SUNYAC   0.733   0.578   0.617   19   C   8   11-4   0-0   11-4      
EA   2   Plattsburgh State      SUNYAC   0.813   0.544   0.611   25   A   wC   13-3   0-0   13-3      
EA   3   Geneseo State           SUNYAC   0.786   0.523   0.589   42   C   26   11-3   0-0   11-4      
EA   4   SUNY-Canton            IND          0.900   0.484   0.588   43   C   27   9-1   0-0   12-2      
EA   5   Buffalo State             SUNYAC   0.667   0.562   0.588   44   C   28   10-5   0-0   11-6      
EA   6   St. John Fisher          E8            0.733   0.538   0.587   48   C   31   11-4   0-0   11-4      
ea   7   New York University   UAA          0.867   0.490   0.584   51   C   33   13-2   0-0   13-2   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2016, 08:34:00 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 26, 2016, 08:11:00 PM
Geneseo opens fast and clings to 34-29 halftime lead over guest Cortland. J. Ringer with 18 pts for the Knights, J. Cooper 13(5x7fg) off the bench for the Corts. Gens by as many as 14. Cortland climbs within 32-29. J. Eisenberg connects at the buzzer

Cortland squared at 34 two minutes into the second half. On 7-0 run to take brief lead before Knights score

JDEX....do you attend any Cortland or Oswego games???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2016, 08:36:55 PM
Would be quite the road trip from Florida!!

Cortland 49, Geneseo 40 on JP Reagan triple midway through the second half. Corts open the period 7x10fg. Knights J. Ringer lands from the arc to make it 49-43. Ringer with 21 point.

Ringen brings Knights within 52-49. Cortland just 50 percent on 16 free tosses

Ringen 29th point brings Geneseo to 55-54. Cortland continues to leave points at the foul stripe

Ringen two FTs gets Gens within 57-56. JP Reagan hoop for Cortland extends lead to three

Ringen drive for a deuce ...plus a FT .....Has 34 pts, 9x9ft .......Two minutes plus left .....eight point game. Cortland 14x25fg in second half after closing first half 9x16fg

TJ Hefele three pter and J. Cooper hoop and a Reagan bucket propels Cortland to 67-56 lead with just over three minutes left. Cooper with 17 points

Keenan for Gens with three .....Estarfaa for Cortland answers with trey ........Ringen redirects mate's missed FT for a hoop. Cortland 70-66 with a bit over a minute left

Burke hits two FTS for Geneseo. Cortland turnover .....Keenan foul and hits 1x2ft. Cortland 72-69 with 0:30 left. Cortland's S. Martinez fouled and hits two. Cortland 74-69 at 30 seconds. Cortland fouls .....Crockett with FTs......74-71 at 0:22. Decker with steal and layup. Hefele to the FT line for Cortland .......misses first ...again .....time out Cortland at 0:17. Hefele hits second FT

Cortland fouls  Ringen at 0:06. Ringen with 36 points. Hits the first ......Cortland timeout. Ringen ties it (11x11ft) ..........Cortland not a good look on final possession. Overtime ........

Cortland with four quick points .....Geneseo's Decker with a three ....CSt 82-78 on Estarfaa 3-pointer ....K. Crocker with a trey ...Cortland by one with just over two minutes to go ..... M. Kelly two FTs for Cortland and 84-81 edge at 1:58. J. Decker with a trey and Crocket a deuce for Geneseo 86-84 lead. Geneseo gets defensive stop. Cortland fouls Decker with 30 seconds left. Hits both 88-84. Estarfaa connects on long three .....Geneseo 88-87 with 20 plus seconds left. Geneseo timeout ... Cortland fouls Decker at 0:13. Hits both  ....90-87 ........Geneseo fouls Estarfaa at 0:05. Two FTs ......Hits first and second ....... Long inbound pass. Cortland intentionally fouls Burke at .9 .... Hits both ....92-89. Geneseo inbounds ....that's a wrap .....

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 26, 2016, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 26, 2016, 08:36:55 PM
Would be quite the road trip from Florida!!

Cortland 49, Geneseo 40 on JP Reagan triple midway through the second half. Corts open the period 7x10fg. Knights J. Ringer lands from the arc to make it 49-43. Ringer with 21 points

Say no more!!  :-X
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2016, 09:36:44 PM
Geneseo 92 Cortland 89 in OT
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2016, 10:01:22 PM

Quite the battle royale in Geneseo ....as we play-by-played on the previous page. Cortland with a second half surge to lead by 11 with 3:23 left in regulation. Clutch play all over the place in the closing moments, and then in overtime. Goodness, J. Ringen had none of his 38 points(12x22fg, 3x9 3s, 11x11ft, 10 reb, 3 assts in 44 minutes) in the extra period. But J. Decker comes alive and notches 19 pts(6x18fg, 7 assts). Free throwing crucial ......Knights 23x27. Cortland winds up respectable 20x31 but was under 50% late in regulation. Geneseo shoots 29x61fg, 11x31 3s and uncharacteristic 16 turnovers. K. Crockett with 10 points

Ringen was simply a one man gang through a big part of the game. Had 18 points at halftime, and 36 of his side's 72 points at onetime.

Cortland got off to a sluggish start (2x9fg) before warming to the task. Finding the right combinations hasn't been easy Coach Span. B. Estarfaa seemed to have a "quiet" 23 points(6x15fg, 5x13 3s, 4 assts) in 36 minutes. First-year J. Cooper with 17 pts(7x11fg, 7 rebs) provides major first half lift off the sidelines. S. Martinez with 12 pts(6x6ft) and 7 rebs. JP Reagan with 10 pts, 5pf in 25'. C. Joseph with 7 rebs. Corts 30x57fg, 9x26 3s
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2016, 03:29:11 PM
SEE ANY SIMILARITIES?

Big East           CONF        CPCT           W-L   PCT
#6 Villanova         7-1         .875          17-3   .850   
Georgetown         6-2         .750          13-8   .619   
#7 Xavier              6-2         .750          18-2   .900   
#10 Providence    5-3         .625          17-4   .810   
Creighton              5-3         .625          14-7   .667   
Seton Hall             3-4         .429          13-6   .684   
Marquette             3-5         .375          13-7   .650   
Butler                   2-5         .286          13-6   .684   
DePaul                  1-6       .143            7-12   .368   
St John's               0-7       .000          7-13   .350

SUNYAC                CONF   CPCT        W-L        PCT
Plattsburgh           8-1     .889           13-3      .813   
Oneonta                6-2     .750           11-4      .733   
Geneseo                6-3     .667           12-4      .750   
Cortland                5-3     .625           11-4     .733   
Brockport              5-4     .556           10-6      .625   
Buffalo State          5-5    .500           11-6      .647   
Fredonia                 4-6   .400             5-11      .313   
Oswego                  3-5   .375            10-5       .667   
New Paltz                1-7   .125           2-12     .143   
Potsdam                 1-8   .111           1-15       .063

Both are 10 team conferences that play round robin schedule!
70% (Yac)-80 (BE)% of the leagues overall records are at 63% wins or better!
Conferences out of conference records are in the top 30% of the respective divisions!
Numerous teams in each conference have received votes over the past 2 months.

Its just a shame that the Yac cant send  more than 3 teams to the dance. I have no doubt that the Big East will send at least 5!

I think that I'm gonna start calling the SUNYAC "Little East"!  Oops that's already taken! :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:36:45 PM
Nothing like comparing apples and oranges. :)

The D1 tournament basically makes the money that runs all of D3's tournaments. D1's tournament along with the WBB tournament are basically the only two tournaments in the entire NCAA that play by different selection criteria rules. It is what it is.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 27, 2016, 03:42:16 PM
I knew it would not be long before Dave swooped in to deflate Bengals' SUNYAC Balloon  ;) ;D :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 03:44:59 PM
Got to keep you state schools on the rails. Comparing to private big colleges is also semi-amusing. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on January 27, 2016, 03:48:29 PM
Let's take this to the WIAC board. Well, not this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2016, 04:49:03 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 27, 2016, 03:48:29 PM
Let's take this to the WIAC board. Well, not this year.

Or the NESCAC board most years.

Heck 2years ago the NEWMAC got 4 teams into the dance. WPI, Springfield, MIT, and Babson. Probably shouldn't have but they did. All 4 teams lost in the first round. We beat 1 of them, MIT, by about 23 points, I think.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 27, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
Well I think three absolutely deserved to be in the tournament from the NEWMAC that year - they were very strong - but Springfield surprised I think and won the AQ. You could still argue three only, but SOS numbers that year really did the NEWMAC well. They then went on to have a tough NCAA tournament, but that was a tough first round period. That was the year the committee put three MA teams at Virginia Wesleyan (not very creative or balanced) and Randolph-Macon lost in the first round to DeSales at home.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 27, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
Quote from: pg04 on January 27, 2016, 03:42:16 PM
I knew it would not be long before Dave swooped in to deflate Bengals' SUNYAC Balloon  ;) ;D :P

No deflation.  I didn't expect a rousing round of "way to go"!  I expected less than an agreement from some corners of the blogs-sphere!  :-\  I'm a big fan of the SUNYAC (since 2006)...and a Big fan of the Big East (since 1994).   ;)  I like what I see in both conferences.  I think they mirror each other to some degree! And I believe that both are deserving of Multiple bids to the dance. At least 3 for each??   :)

Go SUNYAC

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2016, 02:09:12 AM
   Big day in Sunyac tonight.  All 10 teams face off to begin a weekend where nearly any could drop as far as 4 places or rise as high as 4 places! Much is at stake! Your favorite teams record WILL change tonight. Some for better...some for worse! At least 1 team will look back at this weekend, come seasons end, and regret that 1 loss that kept them out of the playoffs. At least 1 will realize that a loss this weekend prevented them from hosting a playoff game. Others will look back and say this was the weekend that vaulted them into top 4 positioning.  A lot is on the line this weekend. I guess that's what make the SUNYAC special.

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 06:47:44 PM
Friday Jan. 29th All 10 teams in action

New Paltz State  at  Oswego State      7:30 PM

The Hawks are coming off a win last time out and are looking to start a streak. They had been knocking on the door several times in their last few games and finally got over the hump against Buffalo State. Now they need to win one on the road to start that streak. Hawks split with the Lakers the past 2 years but have lost 9 of the last 11 games against them.

Oswego continues to struggle and a win tonight will still give them a losing record after completing half of their conference schedule. They also haven't played one of the top tier teams...Geneseo, and that will make it even harder to get into a playoff position. The Lakers are 13 point favorites in tonight's contest. Their bench got awful short last game against Cortland and they only got 6 points from their reserves. I think they win tonight's game but they need to focus on the Hawks and not be thinking about Oneonta's visit  tomorrow afternoon. Lakers take this one by a 75-65 final score.

           
   
Geneseo State  at  Brockport State      7:30 PM

These two teams will see a lot of each other in the next week as they meet again next Friday in Geneseo. Tonight a win by the Golden Eagles will get them even with the Knights as they start the 2nd half of the schedule. Brockport has really had the Knight's number over the past 5 years winning 8 of their 10 matchups. They did split the season series last year with each one winning on the other team's court.

Both teams coming off a win in their last outing as the Knights won a 2nd nailbiter over Cortland and the Eagles upset Plattsburgh State on the road to hand the Cardinals their first loss in the conference. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a  slim 2 point favorite because they are the home team. I'm going to go with the Knights in another close game that goes down to the wire. Geneseo 86 Brockport 83.
   


Oneonta State  at  Cortland State      7:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

Lots of heat in this one tonight as the Red Dragons take on the Red Dragons. Oneonta looking to catch the Cardinals in the loss column if they can get a little help from the Bengals. Cortland looking to catch their fire breathing brethren and maybe tie them for 2nd place. The oddsmakers have made the Oneonta variety a 4 point favorite and I'm taking them as well. Oneonta 83-80 in this one.   
   
Potsdam State  at  Fredonia State      7:30 PM

Potsdam still trying to get back into the win column. Fredonia experiencing the best month they've had in over 2 years. The point spread favors the home team here by an 8 point margin. This could be the Bears best chance to grab a 2nd win. I think Ian Helps will be to much for the bears tonight and the Blue devils win by a 76-70 final.   
   
Plattsburgh State  at  Buffalo State      7:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Bengals found their mojo but lost it again soon after. They will be looking to avenge an overtime loss to Plattsburgh earlier this month in the Burgh. Something tells me that they will pull off the win here tonight but I'm still not picking them to do so. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a slim 4 point favorite but if I was making out the spread I would have the Bengals favored by 3 at home. Any team that loses in overtime on the road is usually favored to win at home.

Buffalo State has been a regular Jekyll and Hyde this season and one only has to look at last weekend to see the truth of that statement. Beating Oneonta, one of the top teams in the conference on the road, and then losing the next day to the last place team, makes me wonder which team will show up tonight. I know which one I'd like to see.

Plattsburgh hasn't had much luck in the Sports Arena, going 2-5 there in the past 7 years. I'm thinking we're due for another win in the Queen City. I really don't expect it but you all knew I wouldn't pick against my Cardinals. Plattsburgh wins another close one, 88-85.         
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 29, 2016, 07:05:33 PM
Big Night in the SUNYAC

Oswego over New Paltz
Oneonta over Cortland
Plattsburgh over Buffalo State
Brockport over Geneseo
Fredonia over Potsdam

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 29, 2016, 07:30:38 PM
Sorry folks - due to technical issues, no video for the Cortland-Oneonta men's game tonight. We will hopefully have video tomorrow for the Cortland-New Paltz game.

Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:10:52 PM
Brockport leads Geneseo at the half by a 31-24 margin.

Geneseo closes in on Port as the score is now 33-31.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:11:53 PM
Oswego over New Paltz by a 43-32 score at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:13:16 PM
Oneonta leads Cortland 38-34 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:15:18 PM
Fredonia ahead of Potsdam by a 34-27 margin at halftime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 29, 2016, 08:15:25 PM
Oneonta grabs its first lead at 7:06, extends to eight points and holds 38-34 halftime lead at Cortland. Both sides shooting about 40 percent from the floor. OSt with 25-13 rebound control. M. McElroy with 14 pts paces the visitors. L. Coleman 11 pts, 8 rebs. B. Estarfaa's 9 pts head Cortland offense. Surprise starter J. Rivera plays 13 minutes with 6 early pts. The frosh forward averages 7 minutes and three points .....
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:21:44 PM
Buffalo State 47 plattsburgh State 42'

Bengals grab an early lead and go up by as much as 9 points at several different stages of the half. Can't pull away from the Cardinals though as Plattsburgh comes back each time.

Buffalo State is led by Mike Henry who already has a good start on a double-double. He has 15 points and 9 rebounds. Nico McLean has 10 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists. Dominic grayer with 8 points and Jordan Chateau with 6.

The Cardinals got 10 points from Eli Bryant off the bench. Ed Correa with 8 points and 4 rebounds. Jon Patron with 5 points and 4 rebounds.     
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
Potsdam scores the first 7 points of the 2nd half to catch Fredonia at 34 each.
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:32:20 PM
Geneseo now with a 40-39 lead over Brockport with 11:40 to go.
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:50:30 PM
Plattsburgh down 62-52 goes on an 11-0 run, fueled by 6 straight points from Kyle Richardson to take the lead 63-62. Now tied at 68 with 10:10 to go.
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 08:51:30 PM
Geneseo leads Brockport 54-53 with 3:21 to play.
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Post by: jdex on January 29, 2016, 08:58:04 PM
Cortland 73, Oneonta 66 with three minutes left.  Corts get huge lift from C. Joseph .... B. Estarfaa with 20 pts, Joseph 16.  Holding M. McElroy in check in final period. Finishes with 16 points, just two over the closing 20 minutes

OSt's L. Coleman connects for trey at 2:11 .......73-69. I. Schupp lands a triple at 1:25 .......73-72.Corts TJ Hefele with a trey at 0:53 ......76=72. Hefele with a steal at 0:24 .....J. Morales free throws shut the door.

Cortland wins 79-74.

Joseph winds up with 16 pts(6x11fg) and has 13 in the first 9:41 of the second half to turn this game around. Hits from the arc and inside. His 16th point provides 59-52 Cortland advantage. Never larger with Oneonta pecking away behind J. Dignan and I. Schupp, then L. Coleman. B. Estarfaa counters, then JP Reagan, then TJ Hefele with three balls. CSt 11x24 in treys, 27x57fg, 14x23ft. OSt 27x66fg, 8x28 3s, 12x23ft.  Oneonta outboards its host 43-31

Estarfaa 20 pts(6x10fg, 5x7 3s), 6 assts; Joseph 16 pts; Hefele 15 pts(6x11fg, 2x3 3s), 6 rebs; J. Cooper 9 pts; Rivera 8 pts. Oneontan Coleman 22 pts(8x15fg), 13 rebs; McElroy 16 pts(6x16fg), 6 rebs; Schupp 11 pts; Dignan 10 pts, 8 assts, 7 rebs; J. Zuvic 10 pts
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 09:07:23 PM
Tie game in Brockport at 57 each with 14 seconds left and Geneseo ball coming out of a time out.

Geneseo hits a 3 pointer with 1 second left on the clock.

Geneseo pulls out a 60-59 win over Brockport.
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 09:14:38 PM
Plattsburgh defeats Buffalo State as Eli Bryant hits a 3 pointer with 3 seconds left to give the Cardinals a 94-92 win.
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 09:18:07 PM
Oswego State defeats New Paltz 75-59
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Post by: magicman on January 29, 2016, 09:23:07 PM
Fredonia State defeats Potsdam State 72-64.
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Post by: Bengalsrule on January 29, 2016, 10:20:08 PM
Another tough loss.  Maybe the toughest of the season.  Plattsburgh was 2 pts better tonite. Congrats to them.  Potsdam tomorrow.  Must get ready!!
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Post by: jdex on January 29, 2016, 11:08:57 PM

J. Decker's 'three' at 0:04 spells win for Geneseo vs. Brockport. Decker with 23 pts(7x18fg). Mate J. Ringen who lit up Cortland for 38 pts earlier this week held to 10 pts(3x16fg). Ringen with just two points on 1x15 shooting through the opening 30 minutes. Port's C. Lyerly's two FTs at 0:14 tied the match at 57
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 04:33:18 AM
Plattsburgh State  94   Buffalo State  92 

Another FAN-tastic game in the Queen City tonight between the Bengals and the Cardinals. I wish I could have been courtside for this one as it surely rivaled the overtime game I got to see a couple of weeks ago between these two fine teams. It's really a shame that someone had to lose this game because both teams played their hearts out and both teams overcame deficits that always make the victory that much sweeter. I feel the pain that the Buffalo State players, coaches and fans must be experiencing this evening.

As a Plattsburgh State fan I was fairly certain the Cardinals would be hard pressed to win this game. It was time for the YAC standings to tighten up and the trip to the western part of the state usually makes that happen more often than not. So when the Bengals came out and grabbed the early lead I was just hoping we could match their intensity and not fall behind like we did at Skidmore and Middlebury. Not even 5 minutes in, we were on the verge of a double digit  deficit as Buff State went in front 16-7 on a layup by Mike Henry.

The Cardinals would close the gap but the Bengals kept the pressure on, and managed to stay in front by at least 2 possessions. Still down by 8 points halfway through the period, Plattsburgh went on a 10-4 run to get within 2 points at the 8:30 mark. The Cardinals then got 5 straight points on a layup by Eli Bryant and a 3 pointer by Zack Coleman to give Plattsburgh their first and only lead of the half at 34-33 with 5:33 left to play.

Buffalo State's Dominic Grayer scored 8 points in the first half and they all came in the next 1:50 as he scored on a layup and then drained two 3 pointers  to erase the Cardinal lead and make it 41-34 with 3:22 remaining in the period. The lead would shift between 5 and 8 points with the Cardinals getting a final basket just before the buzzer as Bryant swished a jumper as time ran out, sending the Bengal into the break with a 5 point, 47-42 lead. It was the 2nd straight game that Bryant ended the half on a made basket as he beat the horn last Sunday against Geneseo.

Plattsburgh had 12 turnovers in the first half and got killed on the offensive boards as the Bengals scored 15 points off 2nd chance opportunities. The Cardinals did limit the Bengals to only 3 made baskets from long distance out of 13 attempts.

Buffalo State didn't suffer any letdowns during the halftime break as they came out and scored with a variety of inside moves. Every one of their first 6 baskets were layups and they opened up a 10 point lead, the largest of the game at 62-52. Back to back layups by Nico McLean followed a pair by Lovell Smith and with 15 minutes to go the Cardinals were in trouble.

Kyle Richardson chose that moment to make his presence felt. The senior forward, a leading candidate for Player of the Year honors in the SUNYAC scored inside, and was fouled on the Cards next trip down the floor. He made both free throws and after the Bengals came up empty on their end, Richardson went to the hoop for 2 more points to cut the lead to 4. Plattsburgh got a point from the line, then back to back layups from freshman Chris Middleton and Eli Bryant. Just like that the Cardinals had reeled off 11 straight points and had their 2nd lead of the night at 63-62 with 11:48 left in the game. Six lead changes and five ties would occur over the next 7 minutes, until the Cardinals made a move to put the game away. Tied at 80, Richardson scored inside for Plattsburgh, and when the Bengals came up empty, Plattsburgh got another layup and 1  from Jon Patron to make it a 2 possession game. It was the first time all night that the Cardinals had more than a 3 point lead. It didn't last long as Jordan Glover buried a three ball for Buff State. Richardson and Patron gave the Bengals the old 1-2 punch again on another pair of layups and the Cardinals had their biggest lead of the game at 89-83 with 2:15 left. McLean laid one in for the Bengals and Bryant countered with a jumper for Plattsburgh and the Bengals were running out of time.

Mike Henry scored for Buff State to cut the deficit to 4 points and after the Cardinals missed on their end McLean cut the lead to 2 points with another layup. He was fouled on the play but missed the free throw, however another offensive rebound by Mike Henry gave the Bengals a 2nd chance. A three point attempt was blocked by the Cards Zack Coleman. Again the Bengals tracked it down and McLean missed a 3 point attempt, only to have the ball end up in the hands of Lovell Smith. This time he made the layup to tie the game and was fouled, sending him to the line with 24 seconds left. He swished the free throw for the lead, after a Plattsburgh State time out.

With 24 seconds left I expected Plattsburgh to bring the ball across the half court line and call time out, even though they took one right before Smith hit the go ahead free throw. But they didn't and as the clock wound down, with Bryant standing about 4 to 5 feet in back of the 3 point line, I kept yelling drive, drive. Instead he threw one up from so far out that I was yelling no, no,....YES!...as it was nothin' but net. The Bengals had a chance at a desperation 3 point attempt that was short making the final score 94-92, and the Cardinals had their W.

Kyle Richardson once again led the Cardinals with his 10th double-double of the season as he was the game's high scorer with 24 points and the Cardinals' leading rebounder with 10 boards. He was 10x15 from the field, 1x2 from long range and 3x3 from the line.

Eli Bryant was 10x14 from the field and 2x5 from beyond the arc to give him 22 points on the night. He also had 4 steals, 3 rebounds and 2 assists. Eli's game winner was his 3rd basket at the end of a half in the last 4 halves he's played. He made a basket to end the first half tonight and had another one on Sunday against Geneseo to end the 1st half. They may start calling him Eli "Big Shot" Bryant in honor of another ex-Cardinal, All American, Anthony"Big Shot" Williams, who graduated back in 2008 from Plattsburgh.

Jon Patron almost had a double-double as he tossed in 14 points and had 8 rebounds. Ed Correa also was close to one, as he had 10 points and 8 rebounds. Zack Coleman had 7 points, 5 assists, 3 rebounds and a block. Xavier Thomas had 7 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Freshmen Chris Middleton and Isaiah Johnson both contributed key minutes tonight with 10 minutes of court time for each guy. Chris had 5 points and 2 rebounds while Isaiah had 4 points and 2 rebounds.

The Cardinals shot a respectable 37x70 from the field (52.9%), 6x18 from beyond the arc (33.3%), and 14x21 from the line (66.7%)

Buffalo State was 33x82 from the field (40.2%), 6x24 from long distance (25.0%), and 20x30 from the line (66.7%)

The Cardinals outshot the Bengals, but the rebounding battle was in Buffalo State's favor by a 49-46 margin. The offensive boards really hurt as the Bengals doubled up Plattsburgh by grabbing 22 to 11 for the Cards. Buff State got 25 second chance points tonight. Plattsburgh did manage to get 19 second chance points of their own however.

Buffalo State had 5 players hit double figures and Mike Henry captured team honors in both points and rebounds. The sophomore guard had a double-double for the 6th time this season as he tossed in 22 points (8x13 fg,1x2 3's, 5x8 ft) and grabbed a game high 12 rebounds. 

Nico McLean had 20 points 7x17 fg, 0x3 3's, 6x11ft) 5 rebounds, 5 assists, and 4 steals.

Dominic Grayer scored 14 points off the bench (4x10fg, 3x8 3's, 3x3 ft) and had 3 boards.

The Big House, Jordan Chateau, had 13 points (4x9 fg, 5x7 ft) and 7 rebounds. Lovell Smith had 11 points (5x11 fg, 1x1 ft) and 7 rebounds.  Jordan Glover had 6 points and 7 assists.

Bengals only got 20 points from their bench while the Cardinals gt 46 points from theirs. Last time these two hooked up the Bengals got 44 bench points and the Cards got 32.

Plattsburgh State improves to 14-3 overall and 9-1 in the SUNYAC. With Oneonta's loss tonight the Cardinals now enjoy a two game lead over second place Geneseo who is 7-3. Cortland and Oneonta are tied for 3rd place at 6-3. The Cardinals now travel over to Fredonia to take on the Blue Devils at 4:00 PM on Saturday afternoon.

Buffalo State is 11-7 overall and 5-6 in the YAC. They are now tied with Fredonia  for the 6th and final playoff spot. Oswego is in a virtual tie with these teams as well. The Cardinals can help out the Bengals by beating Fredonia tomorrow and Oswego will have their hands full with Oneonta who won't want to lose a 2nd game in a row. The Bengals can get well with last place Potsdam up next, on Saturday at 4:00 PM.       
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 09:09:25 AM
Saturday Jan. 30  Four Games Scheduled

New Paltz State  at Cortland State        4:00 PM

The Hawks didn't have much luck yesterday against Oswego and I'll be surprised if they find any luck lurking around Cortland. The Red Dragons are coming off a nice win against Oneonta and they won't suffer any letdowns today. The oddsmakers favor Cortland by a 14 point margin and the Hawks will be hard pressed to keep it that close. Cortland leads this series 8-3 over the last 5 years and the Red Dragons won by an 81-50 score earlier this month. I don't think this one will be quite that bad but it will be bad. Cortland takes this one by an 81-62 final.

 
Oneonta State  at  Oswego State        4:00 PM    Featured Game of the Day

Oneonta had lost 8 of the last 11 games against the Lakers going into their meeting back on January 5th. I think they won by enough points that day, to cover the points they managed to lose by in those 8 losses. They defeated the Lakers by a 90-52 final score and that's the worst loss the Lakers have had in at least the last 10 years.

So will the Lakers gain a bit of revenge on the Red Dragons and win this game today? Or will Oneonta once again prove to be the superior team and handle the Lakers like they did previously? Both teams with plenty of motivation in the SUNYAC race as well. The Red Dragons were in 2nd place all alone a short while ago. Now they find themselves tied for 3rd and a loss today will drop them into 4th. Oswego is hoping to climb back into  playoff position as they currently occupy the 8th place position in the YAC. A win today could find them tied for 6th and a chance to make up even more ground as they play the teams directly in front of them next weekend.

The point spread favors Oneonta by 6 and this game should be a lot more competitive than the last one was. I can't pick the Lakers after the thrashing they took last time. Oneonta wins this one by an 83-72 final score.     


Potsdam State  at  Buffalo State        4:00 PM

This game should be another mismatch despite the Bears hanging with the Bengals a few weeks ago in Potsdam. Buffalo State will be angry that they lost another game in the final seconds and compound that with their tenuous playoff position and they know this is a game they have to win.

Potsdam was in yesterday's game right up till the final few minutes before Fredonia pulled away from the foul line. The Bears won't be in this game for nearly as long. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals an 18 point favorite. It may not be that close. Buffalo State 84 Potsdam State 64.     

Plattsburgh State     at  Fredonia State        4:00 PM

The Cardinals won't find the going quite as easy as it was the last time they met the Blue Devils. Fredonia was a winner of only 1 conference game at that time, a big upset of Geneseo. Now they have 5 conference wins, including another upset, this time over Brockport. The same Brockport team that beat Plattsburgh last week. The Cardinals are flying high again and the tough game was supposed to be the one against the Bengals yesterday. They need to take care of business here or they will go home with that 1-1 record they most often do, when they make the trip west.

With a solid 2 game lead on the rest of the teams in the YAC, that comfort zone would sure be nice to have going into a 5 game homestand. Fredonia will be looking to make amends for the pounding they took when they made the trip up North. The Cardinals were up by 30 to 40 points throughout much of the game and the final score was 86-54. The oddsmakers have adjusted their spread based on the improved play of the Blue Devils and the Cardinals are now listed as a 14 point road favorite. I'm taking the Cardinals and I think it will be a final score of 87-68.       
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Post by: All-Time on January 30, 2016, 12:22:59 PM
Predictions for todays games

Cortland over New Paltz

Oneonta over Oswego

Buff. State all over Potsdam

Platts all over Fredonia

Enjoy the games
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Post by: jdex on January 30, 2016, 04:35:04 PM
Oswego 44, Oneonta 31, half. Lakers 7x12 3s. K. Tyson 12 pts, one of three in double figures

New Paltz leads Cortland 37-31 at the half. Hawks shooting 57 percent from the field (16x28fg, 5x12 3s). K. Donovan off the sidelines for 10 pts(4x5fg). Eight NPers score. Cortland hitting 37 percent from the field. M. Kelly 9 pts

Plattsburgh 50, Fredonia 30, half

Buffalo State doubling up Potsdam 54-27 thru the first frame. Bengals already deploy 14. L. Smith 12 pts(4x5fg). Buffs 19x35fg, 7x16 3s
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 04:50:56 PM
Plattsburgh 50 Fredonia 30

Cards up by double digits 8 minutes into the game at 23-13. The lead just kept growing after that. Coach Curle used his entire bench in the first half already. This game very reminiscent of the last game between these 2 when Plattsburgh was up 46-23 at the break.   

Live stats stopped working halfway through the period. so totals aren't available. Do know that Kyle Richardson had at least 14 points and Xavier Thomas had 9 for Plattsburgh. Jon Patron had 12 points

Dante Williams had 10 points and Ian Helps had at least  6 points for the Blue Devils
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 05:06:46 PM
Buffalo State continues to pile on the Bears as they now lead 71-32. I was afraid this one could get ugly in a hurry. 14:47 left to play.
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 05:08:59 PM
Cortland continues to struggle against the Hawks as New Paltz hanging on to a 50-42 lead with 13 minutes left to play in that one.
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 05:10:33 PM
Oswego trying to gain a measure of revenge as they are still in front of Oneonta by a 66-56 score with only 5 minutes remaining.
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Post by: jdex on January 30, 2016, 05:11:24 PM
New Paltz believes!!!! Shooting nearly 60 percent. Leads 53-42 at Cortland .......

Hawks' N. Paquette connects longrange at 10:28 .....NY by 56-45. Paquette with 16 pts(4x7 3s). Opens the game with a pair of treys

Cortland a bit desperate ........RDragons  twice within six points. Hawks answer ......4:33 to play, NP by eight

Estarfaa sits, returns, makes pair of 3-pointers to bring Corts within 65-61. BUT N. Paquette lands his own THREEEE .....68-61 at 2:41 ..
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
Fredonia refusing to fold as they cut the Cardinal lead to 58-43 with 12:30 left in the game.
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 05:26:16 PM
Oswego gains a measure of revenge against Oneonta as they defeat the Red Dragons by an 80-72 final score.
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Post by: jdex on January 30, 2016, 05:34:07 PM
Cortland back to 71-65 on M. Kelly hoop at 1:27 .....running out of time .....

NP K. Donowan with a trey at 1:03. TJ Hefele gets  a three at 0:53 ....74-68 ..

NP with one FT .....M. Kelly a trey at 0:25 ........75-71
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 05:37:18 PM
Plattsburgh defeats Fredonia 89-75 in a game that wasn't really that close.
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Post by: magicman on January 30, 2016, 05:40:12 PM
Buffalo State defeats Potsdam 105-61
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Post by: jdex on January 30, 2016, 05:45:11 PM
New Paltz will win this one ......78-74 with seconds left .......80-74 final at Cortland!!!!!

Hawks unload from the field at 55 percent clip, sink 30x55fg, 10x21 3s. N. Paquette 21 points(5x9 3s) and 9 rebs, K. Donovan off the bench for 20 in 22 minutes. A. Seniuk with 13. M. Kelly counts 16 pts(6x11) for Cortland. TJ Hefele 10 pts(4x6). B. Estarfaa 9 pts(3x12fg). RDragons 28x63fg, 9x29 3s, 9x16ft

Paquette from the arc nailed his squad's first two shots and the Hawks were off to a 6-0 lead. Cortland came back for a brief lead, then chased the rest of the game. New Paltz certainly gained in confidence as the game went on. Shot very, very well. Didn't get to the line till late. Looked the sharper from the get-go. Cortland had that 'mail it in' look and paid a steep price. Gotta be ready in this conference!

NP Donovan from right up the road from Cortland ----- a Groton lad. Averaging eight points. Nice homecoming, particularly since Cortland buried NP earlier. Sweet trip south.
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Post by: All-Time on January 30, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
Terrible weekend for the Oneonta Red Dragons. They need to go back to the drawing board and find their swagger.
Cortland misses out on a big chance to secure up 2nd place with Geneseo and loses to New Paltz.
Oswego avenges a horrible lose to Oneonta a few weeks ago and is starting to find their way.
Plattsburgh is ahead of the class here especially after that big win last night against Buffalo State with a Eli Bryant 3.
Buffalo State seems to be there in Talent but can't find that consistency they need each and every game.
Brockport's lose to Geneseo Friday night is another team that seems to have the talent but can't seem to bring it every night.
Geneseo with Ringen and Decker seem to find a way to beat teams that are more talented and athletic.
New Paltz, Fredonia and Potsdam bring up the rear but are not automatic outs as New Paltz and Fredonia have knocked off some of the better teams in the conference.

The Craziness of the SUNYAC is in full gear. Hold on to your seats its going to be a wild finish.
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Post by: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2016, 09:24:56 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 30, 2016, 07:32:40 PM
Terrible weekend for the Oneonta Red Dragons. They need to go back to the drawing board and find their swagger.
Cortland misses out on a big chance to secure up 2nd place with Geneseo and loses to New Paltz.
Oswego avenges a horrible lose to Oneonta a few weeks ago and is starting to find their way.
Plattsburgh is ahead of the class here especially after that big win last night against Buffalo State with a Eli Bryant 3.
Buffalo State seems to be there in Talent but can't find that consistency they need each and every game.
Brockport's lose to Geneseo Friday night is another team that seems to have the talent but can't seem to bring it every night.
Geneseo with Ringen and Decker seem to find a way to beat teams that are more talented and athletic.
New Paltz, Fredonia and Potsdam bring up the rear but are not automatic outs as New Paltz and Fredonia have knocked off some of the better teams in the conference.

The Craziness of the SUNYAC is in full gear. Hold on to your seats its going to be a wild finish.

That's about the best description I've seen on the SUNYAC.  Any given night someone can win...or lose. Thats what makes the 'Yac great.
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2016, 12:46:15 AM
Quote from: pg04 on January 27, 2016, 09:49:39 PM
Wooster is one of my favorite names. Thank you for indulging me in one of my usual non-sequiturs

So pg04,

How long have people been calling you Wooster? And is that Elmer Fudd talk for Rooster? :D
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Post by: Bengalsrule on January 31, 2016, 01:43:36 AM
A win and a loss for the weekend. Not what we had hoped for, but we  will take it (Actually we have no choice but to take it). Gotta do better or we will be watching at home during the last week of Feb.  BUFF STATE championship year (2011) saw a BENGALS record at 13-5! 12-6 record was good for 2nd seed last year, 4th (8 losses) in 2014, 3rd seed  in 2013 and 11-7 was good for 2nd seed in 2012!  That's not surprising seeing how competitive the SUNYAC is. Can't afford any more losses!

Cortland (Ugh) and Oswego (Ugh Ugh) are up next weekend for my beloved BENGALS!  Cortland has Brockport Tuesday and Oswego has Geneseo. Hopefully they will both play an epic 9/10 overtime game ( or longer  ::)  ).  Waiting another 6 days to cheer my boys on is a killer.  We are still alive though (everyone is). 1 game separates 6 teams in the win column! Top 6 teams all had D3 votes in the past 6 weeks! Talk about a balanced league!!!   ;)

Go BENGALS!
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Post by: pg04 on January 31, 2016, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 31, 2016, 12:46:15 AM
Quote from: pg04 on January 27, 2016, 09:49:39 PM
Wooster is one of my favorite names. Thank you for indulging me in one of my usual non-sequiturs

So pg04,

How long have people been calling you Wooster? And is that Elmer Fudd talk for Rooster? :D

Just one of many aliases I have, ole magic one.  ;) ;D
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
Plattsburgh State 89  Fredonia 75

Plattsburgh completes a 2-0 western swing and gains a foothold on first place in the conference as they now hold a two and a half game lead over Geneseo. The Cardinals now have a 5 game homestand before ending the season with another trip to the western region of the state.

Plattsburgh took care of business on Saturday  against the Blue Devils in a very similar fashion to their last meeting in Plattsburgh on January 8th. The two teams jockeyed back and forth for the first few minutes and were tied at 9 apiece, 4 minutes into the game. A 16-4 burst put the Cards in front by double digits and they maintained a healthy margin for the remainder of the game. Kyle Richardson with 10 early points and Xavier Thomas with 6 points were the main contributors to the Cardinals early lead. The X-Man had a pair of dunks in that run while Richardson showed his versatitlity by scoring from long distance, and on inside moves.

By the time the halfway point of the period was reached the Cards had doubled up the Blue Devils score and led 30-15. Plattsburgh continued to expand their advantage as the coaching staff went to their bench and with 3 minutes to go in the half, Owen Mitchell's basket gave the Cards a 21 point advantage at 46-25. They coasted into the half up by a 50-30 score.

In the 2nd half the Blue Devils hung with the Cardinals and the lead stayed in double digits throughout the period but they did manage to get it down to 11 points with 7 minutes left to play. A 3 pointer by Ed Correa, a layup by Richardson, and another triple by Eli Bryant, boosted the lead back to 16. Seconds later Bryant stole the ball and fed Chris Middleton, who scored and was fouled. His 3 point play made it 76-57 with 4:54 to go, as the Cardinals ended any chance of a Fredonia comeback.

Jon Patron had a game high 22 points to lead Plattsburgh and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds, also a game high. He was 9x12 from the field and 4x7 from the line.

Kyle Richardson completed another big weekend for Plattsburgh as he also just missed his 11th double-double. He had 20 points (8x15 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x4 ft) and tied the game high in rebounds with 9. For the weekend Richardson had 44 points...18x30 from the field, 2x5 from long range, and 6x7 from the line. He had 19 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 assists. Once again he is a leading candidate for the SUNYAC Player of the Week award. Once again he will probably be overlooked. By my count he should have at least 4 of those on his living room mantle, instead of the 1 he has.

Xavier Thomas had 13 points (6x13 fg, 1x4 ft), 4 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block. And 3 mighty dunks. I'm pretty sure he would lead the conference in dunks this year if that statistic was kept, which is pretty amazing since he's only 6'2" tall. But that's why he's the X-Man. Nobody in the YAC can jump higher.

Eli Bryant, yesterday's hero against Buffalo State, again came off the bench and added 11 points to the Plattsburgh total. He was 4x6 from the field and 3x3 from the line. He had 2 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.

The Cardinals were a shade under 50% from the field hitting 34 of 69 shots. They were 6x18 from behind the arc and 15x21 from the line. All 3 of those stats were better than the Blue Devils and they only had 10 turnovers to 13 for Fredonia. The Blue Devils managed to corral 42 rebounds to 39 for Plattsburgh.

Ian Helps, as usual, was the leading scorer for Fredonia, as he matched the game high with 22 points. He also equaled the game high in rebounds as he grabbed 9 boards.

Dante Williams had 13 points with 6 rebounds and Brandon Hodge added 11 points with 3 rebounds.

The Cardinals up their overall record to 15-3 and lead the YAC with a 10-1 mark. They will return to action on Friday at 7:30 when they host the Oneonta Red Dragons.

Fredonia drops to 6-12 overall and 5-7 in the conference. They are now in 8th place behind a trio of teams that have 5-5 or 6-6 records. They will travel to central NY this weekend to take on Oswego at 7:30 on Friday and Cortland on Saturday. 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2016, 03:11:52 PM
The latest East Regional Rankings from KnightSlappy. I had to make a slight adjustment to the D3 record for a number of teams as they were slightly off from his rankings. Not sure why. For instance he has Plattsburgh with a D3 record of 14-3 and an overall record of 15-3. Plattsburgh has not played anyone outside of D3 so their D3 record and overall record are the same. This was the case for 8 YAC schools and 2 Liberty League schools.

The first set of Regional Rankings will come out on Wednesday February 10th. The East Region will only have the Top 6 teams released but I will put up a link that will show all the East Region teams.   

The column vRRO is a team's record versus Regionally Ranked Opponents. Since there have been no regional rankings it is presently 0-0 for all teams. Once the teams are ranked then there will be won-lost log in that column. As an example, if these were the rankings on Feb. 10th, Plattsburgh's vRRO column would be how they fared against the top 6 teams, because only 6 teams are ranked in the East Region. Since Plattsburgh has beaten Oneonta,  Geneseo , Buffalo State twice, and Oswego they would have a 5-0 mark in the vRRO column. Oneonta woud be 2-3 (losses to Buff State, Oswego and Plattsburgh...wins against Oswego and Geneseo). If, in subsequent weeks, a team drops out of the top 6 spots and is not regionally ranked, the game you played against them would still be considered a game against a regionally ranked opponent.   

So according to these rankings if the NCAA tournament was to start tomorrow and the at large bids were awarded based on these rankings the East Region would have Plattsburgh State, Nazareth, St. Lawrence, and Lancaster Bible as the winners of the 4 East Region conferences (Pool A) and would get automatic bids. KnightSlappy has those 4 teams with a Pool A because they all are currently in 1st place in their respective conferences.

The schools with a number of 19 or below under the "status" row would be in line to get a Pool C bid as an At Large entrant into the NCAA tournament.  So #7 Oneonta, #8 Geneseo, #13 Rochester and #19 Buffalo State would currently get a bid. I wish I could say that will happen later this month but I'm pretty sure it won't. The rankings for the rest of the East Region and the entire country can be found here:

http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/

I don't believe for one minute that the Northeast Region, which is currently showing Tufts as the only Pool C,  at large team, will wind up with only 1 at large bid. They usually get anywhere from 3 to 5. This year will be no different probably. The Central Region with 5 teams and the East Region with 4 teams are the 2 that are leading right now. I expect the East Region to have a significant drop off by selection Monday.

Last year Plattsburgh State was ranked 2nd in the East Region behind St.John Fisher. When Fisher won the automatic bid from the Empire 8 Conference that left Plattsburgh as the top team in the East to receive a Pool C at large bid. For 19 selection rounds we were the team at the table from our region and for 19 rounds we were passed over which meant no team from the East Region got an at large entry into the NCAA tournament last year. Nothing is guaranteed.

Remember these aren't official in any way, shape, or form. They represent a concerned individual's best attempt at ranking the teams. KnightSlappy does a great job and gives us something to look at until the real rankings come out.

Enjoy!! 8-)
 

Reg.   Rank   Team                Conf      WP           SOS          RPI    Rank    Pool  Status D3   vRRO  OVR      
EA   1   Plattsburgh State SUNYAC     0.824     0.556     0.623      15       A       C       15-3  0-0   15-3      
EA   2   SUNY Oneonta       SUNYAC   0.625     0.607     0.611      20       C       7        11-6  0-0  11-6      
EA   3   SUNY Geneseo       SUNYAC   0.800     0.546     0.609      21        C       8       13-3   0-0 13-4         
EA   4   Rochester               UAA          0.706     0.569     0.603      27      C       13       12-5   0-0 12-6      
EA   5   Buffalo State       SUNYAC      0.688      0.565     0.596      33       C       19      11-6  0-0 12-7          
EA   6   Oswego State       SUNYAC    0.688      0.552     0.586     44        C        27       12-5 0-0  12-5      
ea   7   Brockport               SUNYAC   0.563      0.579      0.575      59       C      3 9      10-7  0-0 17-0


Edit: 4:04 PM  I emailed KnightSlappy about the D3 vs overall records and he made all the corrections.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 01, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Magicman you have to be "flying"  your beloved Cardinals have cracked the top 25!!  Congratulations!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 01, 2016, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 01, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Magicman you have to be "flying"  your beloved Cardinals have cracked the top 25!!  Congratulations!! ;)

Congrats indeed to the Cards!   Good to see the Yac getting some recognition!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 12:33:38 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 01, 2016, 07:20:54 PM
Magicman you have to be "flying"  your beloved Cardinals have cracked the top 25!!  Congratulations!! ;)

I didn't think at the start of the season that a Top 25 ranking at any point of the season was possible. I knew we had a good recruiting class as I watched them playing pickup games during September and October before practices began. But the Cardinals lost more of their rotation players than any team in the conference, including 4 of their starters. I was hoping that we could grab a playoff berth in the YAC tournament and maybe, by late February, the team would come together and win 3 games in a row to get the automatic bid. I thought the only way we might go dancing this year was if that happened. I really thought if we were lucky we might be 17-10 or 18-9 after the playoffs and that wouldn't get us an at large bid. So the automatic bid as the conference champs was our only hope. I began to think we had something special about 3 weeks ago when we ran our record to 9-2 and were 4-0 in the YAC.

Still a long way to go and the basketball gods giveth and taketh away, but I am flying a bit higher than I was a few weeks ago. The #24 spot in the Top 25 ranking is nice and if you remember, I thought we should have been receiving votes ahead of other teams in the conference a month ago, when we weren't mentioned at all. But better to be ranked later in the year and hopefully at the end, than early in the year and never again. Now our record is such, that if we can take care of business for the most part, we may have the opportunity to gain an at large bid if we don't win the conference tournament. We're certainly looking better at this point of the season than I ever thought we would look.

The success of our team has to be attributed to 3 things:

1. Excellent leadership from our 3 seniors, Kyle Richardson, Eddie Correa and Xavier Thomas. They have been instrumental in leading this team by example. Richardson has put together a Player of the Year season. Correa's 3 point shooting has been a huge weapon in leading so many Cardinal comebacks. And the X-Man's high flying repertoire of dunks, blocks, and rebounds above the rim, have fired up the team on numerous occasions. His lock down defense has been pretty solid as well.

2. The maturation and integration of all the new players into the Cardinals system. Most notably, sophomore transfer Eli Bryant and freshman Jon Patron. The 3 seniors all average double figures and Patron has now edged his way up to become the 2nd leading scorer on the team with a 13.7 ppg behind Richardson's 19.9 ppg. He is also the 2nd leading rebounder on the team with 6.9 rpg, again, trailing only Richardson who is grabbing 11.0 rpg and is ranked 18th in the nation. Bryant has steadily watched his points per game total climb and he is now just a shade shy of double digits with a 9.7 ppg average. His 3 point shooting has become a weapon as well and he has the best percentage from long distance of anyone on the team. His dagger from 4 feet beyond the arc on Friday against Buffalo State may well end up as the most exciting shot of the Cardinals season. (Although I hope we have a few more of those) In addition to these 2 new players there have been solid contributions from 4 other first year players that have enabled the Cardinals to not just rebuild but reload.

3. Coach Tom Curle with assistants Cameron Conover and John Konowitz have done an outstanding job getting these veterans and youngsters to become a cohesive unit. They seem to be able to get it done when crunch time rolls around. To have played 7 conference road games at this point, and be 7-0 in those games is a testament to the fine job the coaches have done. Now with 5 of their 7 remaining games taking place in the friendly confines of Memorial Hall, the Cardinals really do hold their destiny in their own hands. Curle has to be the leading candidate at this point for another Coach of the Year award.

Go Cardinals...Break the Stone!         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 02, 2016, 08:45:25 AM
See that someone else beat me to congrat the Cardinals rise to the top!   Not hard these days. Can even see my back yard plants a bit....too much moving snow around.
Anyway, maybe if Plattsburgh wins the YAC and goes to the big dance....and Amherst does the same, just maybe the Catdinals and the Jeffs will meet in the post season.  Long way to go yet.
Question to you magic1.....where does " break the stone"  come from?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 09:06:04 AM
The new D3hops Top 25 poll has been released. Here is the link:

http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week8

Nice to see my Cardinals crack the Top 25 and enter at the #24 spot. I told a few people on Sunday that I expected it to happen after we had another 2-0 weekend on the road. Especially after a lot of teams in front of us from last weeks poll lost 1 or 2 games.

Plattsburgh's rise has been rapid once they entered the polls. The Cardinals did not get a single point through the first 6 polls (preseason and weeks 1 through 5)and had to watch as 11 other schools from the East Region were either ranked or got votes. Finally in week 6, after running their winning streak to 7 games and beating the 4th team in their past 5 games that had been mentioned in the polls, the Cardinals got their first points of the season. They went 1-1 in the next week and lost a few points but another 2-0 week has them gaining 29 points and cracking the Top 25.

It is a tenuous ranking that could only last a short time since a single defeat is all it takes to have the voters climb on the back of another team that may be heating up next week. In order to stay in the Top 25 the Cardinals will need one more solid week and then they can afford to lose a game and still not fall out of the rankings. I'm hoping they have a good homestand to improve their position.

Lancaster Bible continues to move up in the standings as they remain undefeated, gain 91 points, and climb to the #15 spot up 3 from last week. 

NYU has fallen out of favor and dropped down into the others receiving votes category. They lost 84 points and are now in the Others Receiving Votes at #28. They are only 4-3 in a UAA conference that is not as strong as they usually are this year. I can see them falling even further.

No other team in the East Region is getting a mention this week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 09:07:54 AM
This is a quote from a post I made after the Plattsburgh State-Fredonia game on Saturday. My wishful thinking has become a reality.

Quote from: magicman on January 31, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
Kyle Richardson completed another big weekend for Plattsburgh as he also just missed his 11th double-double. He had 20 points (8x15 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x4 ft) and tied the game high in rebounds with 9. For the weekend Richardson had 44 points...18x30 from the field, 2x5 from long range, and 6x7 from the line. He had 19 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 assists. Once again he is a leading candidate for the SUNYAC Player of the Week award. Once again he will probably be overlooked. By my count he should have at least 4 of those on his living room mantle, instead of the 1 he has.

The SUNYAC powers that be, have made the correct choice on Monday, as they've named Kyle Richardson as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending January 31st. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

Kyle Richardson, Plattsburgh
Baldwin, N.Y. / Baldwin HS

"Kyle Richardson shot a combined 60-percent (18-for-30) from the field and averaged 22.0 points and 9.5 rebounds per game in two victories for Plattsburgh State over the weekend. The senior posted his league-best 10th double-double of the season with a game-high 24 points and 10 rebounds in Friday night's 94-92 win at Buffalo State, with 20 of his points coming in the second half. Saturday afternoon against Fredonia saw Richardson register his ninth 20-plus point effort on the year, as he poured in 22 points while grabbing nine boards."

Actually they made a slight error as Kyle only had 20 points against Fredonia, not 22. I gave them all the info they needed back on Saturday. ;)

Hope they won't rescind his POTW award now that I corrected them. ;D

Great job Kyle. I'd like to see a couple more, though.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 02, 2016, 10:10:00 AM
Magicman- Love your breakdown of the Plattsburgh Cardinals.
I definitely thought it would be somewhat of a rebuilding year for them.
They lost a lot to graduation last year.
But like you said there is nothing like Senior Leadership to get a team going.
Kyle Richardson has emerged into one of the best players if not the best player in the conference.
Crazy to think he came off the bench last year, that is the kind of talent that Plattsburgh had last year.
Edward Correa has been a solid player for years and Xavier Thomas's athleticism is unreal.

That and the emergence of Jon Patron, Eli Bryant along with Zach Coleman make this team a very solid group.
They all bring a little something to the court. And they play well together.

Fantastic to see that they are ranked 24th in the nation and another well deserved SUNYAC player of the week for Kyle Richardson.

The SUNYAC is one tough conference, enjoy your Magic Carpet Ride.





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 02, 2016, 05:11:15 PM
3 games tonight in the SUNYAC

Can New Paltz pull off another upset here?
I don't think so, Oneonta will find their swagger tonight at home. They desperately need a win before heading up to Plattsburgh on Friday. Oneonta by 15-20 points.

Cortland at Brockport- both teams need a win here. Brockport should be able to hold court and get the win in a very close game.

Definitely the game of the night:
Oswego at Geneseo
I think Oswego gets the win here tonight. They have been playing much better and Brian Sortino is getting the help he needs to get this team playing the kind of basketball they are accustomed to playing. Oswego by 8 points

Enjoy the Craziness of the SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 07:33:44 PM
Tuesday February 2nd  Three games scheduled for this evening.

New Paltz State  at  Oneonta State      7:30 PM

The Hawks are coming off a big upset of Cortland, a team they lost to by 31 points the first time they played them. And they pulled another upset when they took out Buffalo State the week before the Cortland game. Can they do it again  and surprise the Red Dragons?

Oneonta needs this game to stop the bleeding. Back to back losses on the road last weekend have seen a reversal of fortune that was a bit unexpected. Now they are just one among the many instead of the sole possessor of 2nd place. They handled the Hawks with ease back on January 15th winning in Hawk Center by 23 points. The oddsmakers have made them a 15 point favorite tonight. That's close to what my crystal ball has forecast as well. Final score Oneonta 82 New Paltz 65.
   
Oswego State  at  Geneseo State      7:30 PM Featured Game of the Night

It would be a lot easier to pick this game if I knew how many minutes Mykelle Krecko was going to play in tonight's game. He went from 27 minutes and almost a triple double against Brockport to not playing a single minute the next game against Cortland. He gets 10 minutes off the bench against New Paltz and then starts and gets 27 minutes against Oneonta. Tonight might be his turn to not play at all again. The Lakers need a win here to continue their climb from the depths of the YAC. Winners of 4 out of their last 5 they have moved from 8th place up to a tie for 5th.

Geneseo has also made an abrupt turnaround after losing their first 2 conference games. They reeled off 5 straight wins before suffering a loss at Plattsburgh. They have put that one behind them, though with a pair of winning barnburners against Cortland and Brockport. All alone in 2nd place is a nice feeling and they would like to keep it that way.

The point spread favors the Lakers by a single point so the game is basically a pick 'em. I think I would go with the Knights even if I knew that Oswego's 6'10' big guy was starting. He can be a game changer but so can't the Knight's one two punch of Justin Ringen and John Decker. Ringen didn't have a good outing his last game against Brockport. I think he makes up for it tonight. Geneseo takes this one by a 76-72 final score.

       
Cortland  at  Brockport      7:30 PM

This game could just as easily be the featured game of the week. It will be another hard fought game that should come down to the final minutes. Brockport could be missing their leading scorer Hamed Shamseldin who has been nursing an injury for the past several games. He was limited to just 13 minutes against Plattsburgh and tried to go against Geneseo but only played 13 minutes in that game as well.

Both teams are coming off losses and the oddsmakers have made the home team Eagles a slim 2 point favorite. Last year the schools split the season series with each team winning at home. Over the past 10 games they are dead even at 5-5. Tonight I'll take the home team but if Shamseldin doesn't play Brockport could be in trouble. Brockport wins by a 73-70 final.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 08:10:26 PM
Geneseo leads Oswego by a 40-35 score at the half.

John Decker with 15 points and Justin Ringen with 10 to lead the Knights. They have 6 3's between them and the nights had 7 three pointers in the half.

Brian Sortino with 12 points and Alex Rawa with 9 to lead the Lakers. Oswego with 5  three pointers in the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2016, 08:11:48 PM
Brockport 41, Cortland 36 midway in a game of runs. Port out to early lead. Corts forge 30-19 gap just under eight minutes. Eagles go on 16-0 tear.  Not a particularly T. Spanbauer Cortland squad on defense. Quite porous, and ballhandling quite tenuous this evening. Port pressure taking a toll. Ten Eagles score led by D. Gavin 9 points, L. Pace 8. B. Estarfaa 13 for RDragons, JP Reagan 10. They are 5x9 3s but basically blanked after Cortland spurt.

Bport 57 percent from the field ....16x28. Teams lick their lips when facing Cortland!!

Shamseldin not playing
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 08:17:38 PM
Oneonta out in front of New Paltz 37-28 at the break.

Lawrence Coleman with 11 points for Oneonta. Mikey McElroy has 8 and Seth Thomsen has 7'

Brandon Guest has 7 points to lead the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 08:21:39 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 02, 2016, 08:11:48 PM
Brockport 41, Cortland 36 midway in a game of runs. Port out to early lead. Corts forge 30-19 gap just under eight minutes. Eagles go on 16-0 tear.  Not a particularly T. Spanbauer Cortland squad on defense. Quite porous, and ballhandling quite tenuous this evening. Port pressure taking a toll

Shamseldin not playing

I'm trying to watch all 3 games but am concentrating more on the Geneseo-Oswego game. Saw the part of this game where the Red Dragons opened up some daylight and left to go back to the Geneseo game. Had to look 3 times at the halftime score when I went back to check the action. A little shocked especially with no Shamseldin.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2016, 09:05:11 PM
Brockport 86, Cortland 73, final

Eagles swift start the second half  for 50-37 lead and up shooting percentage to 60 percent from the field. Corts actually come back and take leads of 62-61 and 64-63 on JP Reagan hoop at 9:08. C. Lyerly gets the reversal at 8:48. P. Modzelewski and M. Smith treys stretch the lead. RDragons within 75-68 before dashed by D. Gavin triple. Gavin finishes with 16 pts(4x8fg, 2x5 3s); Lyerly 15 pts(7x14fg) 10 rebs, 5 assts; C. Torres 12 pts(5x7fg); L. Pace 12 pts(5x7fg); M. Smith 10 pts. As we stated, Eagles with 10 dribblers in the scoring column in the first half.

Need a program to follow Cortland ....D. Hampton emerges to start the second half and nets seven rather quick points. Later, frosh J. Lobello appears and plays a good deal of the final period, probably for some steadier ballhandling. B. Estarfaa after 13 early first half points winds up with 16(5x13fg, 4x10 3s). Reagan 15 pts(6x9fg, 3x5 3s); TJ Hefele 14 pts(5x9fg, 4x6 3s).

Port pulls a 32x60fg trigger, 7x21 3s, 15x16ft ....Cortland 25x59, 15x32 3s. Dragons with 17-0 run for 30-19 lead before hosts go on 16-0 rampage and seizing 41-36 halftime advantage

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 09:14:09 PM
Geneseo wins a close one 80-79 over Oswego.

The Knights should get some kind of award for playing in the most barnburners for a season. Already this year they have played in 10 games that have been decided by 4 points or less. Their record in those games is 8-2. I think I have seen about 5 of those games.

I knew tonight's game was going to be another close one and these teams didn't disappoint.  I had the Knights winning by a 76-72 final score so I wasn't too far off from the actual finish.

The teams combined for 10 ties and 16 lead changes and the largest lead of the game was 8 points by Geneseo early in the 2nd half at 50-42. That lead lasted for all of 14 seconds before Oswego's Kyle Covely buried a 3 ball to cut it to 5. On Oswego's next possession Covely scored again to narrow the gap to 3 points. The Knights' Justin Ringen answered with a jumper of his own but Covely hit another triple to make it 52-50.
After the Knights came up empty, the Lakers tied the game on a Mark Candelario layup and when Geneseo missed again, the Lakers' Alex Rawa hit one of his 6 three pointers to give Oswego the lead and that 8 point deficit was now a 3 point lead and it happened in a shade under 3 minutes. Back and forth they went with neither team gaining more than a 2 possession lead.

At the 5 minute mark Oswego was up 72-69 and after an Oswego turnover, Geneseo's  Justin Ringen came down and buried one of his 4  three pointers on the night to tie the game once again. Oswego went in front on a pair of Brian Sortino free throws. The Knights' John Decker scored inside to tie it up at 74. Demetrius Mitchell made a 3-pt. jump shot for the Lakers and Decker answered with a 2 point jumper. After Oswego missed on their end the Knights' Kevin Crockett put Geneseo back on top 78-77 with a pair of free throws and there was 1:25 left to play. Oswego committed a turnover with 1:11 to play, but the Knights failed to capitalize when they missed a shot, got the offensive rebound and returned the favor by turning it over with 41 seconds to go. Sortino made them pay when he buried a jumper with 19 seconds left to put the Lakers in front 79-78. Needing a stop the Lakers didn't get it as Kevin Crockett played the hero when he scored on a layup with 3 seconds left in the game. Once again the Knights scored in the final 5 seconds of the game to grab the win.

The J & J boys once  again were the main source of power for the Knights. John Decker led Geneseo with 24 points and Justin Ringen was close behind with 20. Decker added 5 assists, 3 rebounds and was 5 for 7 from downtown. Ringen had 7 rebounds, 2 assists and hit 4 of 9 from long distance.

Jordi Menkhorst  also had double figures as he added 11 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 assists. He did a good job against the big men of Oswego tonight.

6'6" freshman, Jack Manke, who hails from near my neck of the woods up here in the North Country and went to school at Ogdensburg, came off the bench and had 14 solid minutes for the Knights. He had 8 points with 5 rebounds, going 3x4 from the field and 2x3 from the line. He'll be a valuable member of the Knights over the next 3 years. Wish we had him at Plattsburgh.

The hero of the night Kevin Crockett, only scored 4 points, but they just happened to be the final 4 points that Geneseo scored. Nothing like choosing quailty over quantity. I think the real reason he was so successful in crunch time was he wanted to have bragging rights over his brother Matt, who is a junior guard for the Oswego Lakers. Matt had 3 points in tonight's game and with 1:26 left to play Kevin didn't have any points. So when he was fouled with 1:25 remaining he calmly swished both free throws to put the Knights in front. And of course his basket with 3 seconds left was the game-winner. He can trash talk Matt, at least for the next 2 weeks, until they meet in Oswego on the 16th.

Need to give a shout out to Jon Cohen who only saw 3 minutes of action but had 2 assists and a steal, including the assist on the winning basket by Crockett.

Geneseo had a decent night shooting the rock as they went 28X58 from the field (48.3%), 13X23 from downtown (56.5%) and 11x14 from the line (78.6%)

Oswego shot well also, as they were 30x60 from the field (50.0%), 15-36 from long range (41.7%), and 4-8 from the line (50.0%)

Another indication of how close this game was and I had to highlight this section...both teams had 32 rebounds. Each team had 13 offensive boards and 19 on the defensive end. The turnover battle was dead even as well, with 9 apiece, being the magic number, which is not too shabby. Bench points turned out to be another dead heat as the reserves on each team scored 19 points. Last but not least, Geneseo had 19 assists and Oswego had...you guessed it 19 assists. 

Brian Sortino captured scoring honors for the night by hitting the nets for 26 points (10x16 fg, 2x6 3's, 4x6ft) He had 6 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

Alex Rawa had 18 points as he scored them all by hitting 6 of 12 shots from long distance. He was the biggest reason that the Lakers had 15 3's tonight. He also had 4 assists, 2 rebounds and a block.

Demetrius Mitchell added 12 points and Kyle Covely had 10. Keith Tyson had 5 assists, 4 points and 4 rebounds.

The Lakers big man Mykell Krecko started the game tonight but only got 12 minutes of court time. He had 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 blocks and scored 2 points with the only shot he took.

Geneseo improved to 14-4 overall and 8-3 in the conference to remain all alone in 2nd place and within striking distance of the 1st place Cardinals. They will return to action  on Friday night at 7:30 as they only have a single game this weekend against travel partner Brockport.

Oswego falls to 12-6 overall and 5-6 in the YAC. They fall out of a favored playoff spot into 7th place and this weekend will host Fredonia State on Friday, a team that is a half game behind them in the standings. On Saturday they host Buffalo State, the team that is a half game ahead of them in the standings. The ramifications of that game are huge since Buffalo State won their earlier matchup. If the Bengals also win this game they will hold a very, very, important tiebreaker that could determine the 6th and final playoff position.     


        

       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2016, 09:15:32 PM
Oneonta defeats New Paltz by an 81-59 final score.

A much needed win for these Red Dragons as they take care of business against the Hawks. I had the home team winning this by an 82-65 final score so I didn't miss the actual score by much. Needed Tyler Levin to make both of his free throws at the end instead of going 1 for 2. I'll be speaking to him about this when he visits Plattsburgh this Friday. :o And if the Hawks had made their last 2 three pointers I'da been perfect.

The way that New Paltz came out of the gate made it look like another big upset was a possibility. The Hawks matched Oneonta shot for shot during the initial 10 minutes of the game and when Dylan Balducci hit a 3 pointer with 9:13 left in the half, the Hawks were in front 22-20. Balducci was fouled on the Hawks next trip down the court and he made 1 of 2 to give them a 3 point lead. It would be their last lead, as the Red Dragons went on a 15-2 run, that had them in front 35-25 with 2:36 left in the period. Oneonta got 6 points from Lawrence Coleman, 5 from Seth Thomsen and 4 from Mikey McElroy to account for those 15 points. The Red Dragons went into the locker room up 37-28 at the break and the Hawks were never able to make a run that would turn this into a ballgame.

They did stay within shouting distance for the early stages of the 2nd half and they fought back from a 10 point deficit with 6-1 mini-run to make the score 45-40 with 15:15 remaining. That was their last effort to keep it reasonably close. Oneonta responded with a 10-0 run of their own and it was 55-40 in a flash. Six of those ten points came on back to back trifectas by Ian Schupp, 21 seconds apart. Shots like that, in succession, have a way of turning a game in a hurry. The lead kept growing and the Red Dragons were never threatened, from that point on.

Lawrence Coleman led a quartet of Oneonta players in double figures. He had a game high 21 points with 5 rebounds. Seth Thomsen had 12 points with 3 rebounds and a pair of steals. Mikey McElroy and Ian Schupp both had 11 points. McElroy added 3 blocks, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Jackson Zuvic led the team in rebounding with 7 boards along with 8 points and 2 assists. Jack Dignan had 8 assists, 4 points 2 steals and a block. Grant Massaroni had 6 boards, 4 points, 1 assist and a steal in 12 minutes off the bench.

Oneonta outshot New Paltz from the field and from the line, had 34 boards to 29 for the Hawks and only had 11 turnovers to 14 for the visitors.

Andrew Seniuk was the high man for the Hawks with 16 points and 3 rebounds. Brandon Guest just missed a double-double with 13 points and a game high 9 rebounds. He also had 5 assists, 3 steals and a block for a pretty good day at the office. Dylan Balducci had 9 points in 11 minutes off the bench.

The Hawks did outshoot the Red Dragons from long distance as they went 7 for 18 from behind the arc. Oneonta was 5 for 17 from long range.

Oneonta ups their overall record to 12-6 and takes over sole possession of 3rd place in the conference with a 7-4 record. They head up to the North Country this weekend, for a battle royale against the Cardinals in Plattsburgh on Friday evening, and hope to duplicate their success of last year, when they scored on the game's final possession, to walk out of Memorial hall with a W. They will meet up with Potsdam on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM. I think they will go 1-1 on the weekend and still be in 3rd place when Sunday morning rolls around.

New Paltz falls to 3-14 overall and 2-9 in the YAC. They will follow their travel partners to the North Country to take on Potsdam on Friday night and Plattsburgh on Saturday.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2016, 02:27:11 PM
D3hoops'... Around the East column has a new article out today. Main story is on the Empire 8's  Hartwick Hawks but there is a short mention on the SUNYAC race and bits about the other conferences in the East Region. Here's the link:

  http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2015-16/hartwick-shooting
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 03, 2016, 04:33:16 PM
For the third consecutive year, Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) will air for 12 hours as the regular season enters the final four weeks. Dave McHugh will chat with coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and others involved in Division III basketball from around the country. Other guests will include those who have Division III roots or appreciate the division and the game along with the student-athletes who play the sport.

Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4

You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016

Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
TimeGuestSchool
10:15amConnie TilleySt. Norbert (WBB) - WBCA Center Court
10:40amJamie PurdyPeidmont (WBB)
11:00amKeri CarolloUW-Whitewater (WBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
11:20amBrent PollariSaint Mary's (Minn.) (WBB)
11:40amKent MadsenNo. 21 Wheaton (Ill.) (WBB)
12:00pmRussell LoydRose-Hulman (MBB)
12:20pmKevin BroderickNazareth (MBB)
12:40pmJustin ScottArcadia (MBB)
1:00pmSam HargravesNo. 12 Alma (MBB)
1:20pmLenny ReichMount Union (SID)
1:40pmMaureen WebsterClarkson (WBB)
2:00pmBetsy WitmanYork (Pa.) (WBB)
2:20pmSara LeeDenison (WBB)
2:40pmKlay KneuppelWisconsin Lutheran (MBB)
3:00pmBrian Van HaaftenBuena Vista (MBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair
3:30pmSydney MossNo. 1 Thomas More (WBB)
3:45pmAaron RousellBucknell (WBB) - former Chicago coach
4:00pmTim ShanahanStaten Island (WBB)
4:20Pat CunninghamTrinity (Texas) (MBB) - NABC Coach's Corner
4:50pmBubba SmithSewanee (MBB)
5:15pmBen StrongFormer Guilford All-American
5:30pmKevin ConnorsESPN SportsCenter Anchor - Ithaca alumnus
6:00pmKristen DowlingClaremont-Mudd-Scripps (WBB)
6:20pmAllison ColemanSage (WBB)
6:40pmLandry KosmalskiSwarthmore (MBB)
7:00pmDave NilandNo. 23 Penn State-Behrend (MBB)
7:20pmAaron GallettaLasell (MBB)
7:40pmJohn BaronGwynedd-Mercy (MBB)
8:00pm
8:20pm
8:40pmMelissa HodgdonWheaton (Mass.) (WBB)
9:00pmG.P. GromackiNo. 2 Amherst (WBB)
9:20pmJames Wagner
9:40pmHAPPY HOURFree-for-all of calls, tweets, and fun!

We hope to get at least the full show on a podcast, or several podcast, during the on Friday. You can find it here:
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 04, 2016, 12:41:21 PM
Prayer request for BRADLEY DOYLEY

I'm reaching out to my D3 Hoops family and asking them to put in a word, to whomever they pray to, for BRADLEY DOYLEY. BRADLEY is a senior at Buffalo State and a 3 time member of the basketball team here at Buff State (played half season last year). IN the 3 plus years that I have known BRADLEY, through basketball and working phones at the Erie County Board of Elections (on election night), I can honestly say that he was 1 of the happiest young men that I have ever met. An infectious smile that stood out amongest his teammates, in good times and in bad.

Right now BRADLEY is going through some real bad times. He was rushed, by ambulance,  this past Monday to Buffalo General Hospital where he is in ICU. His heart has stopped beating 4 times within the 1st 48 hours that he was in the hospital. A myriad of problems with his lungs, heart and kidneys. Doctors are doing all that they can but he is clearly in struggle for his life. Details are sketchy as to what caused this rapid deterioration, but right now BRADLEY (and his family) could use all the prayers possible.

I'd really appreciate it if, at some point in your busy day, you could send 1 up for BRADLEY. BRADLEY, and his family, would really appreciate!

Go BRADLEY!!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 04, 2016, 02:05:16 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with Bradley Doyley and his family during this very difficult time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2016, 03:10:18 PM
Watched Bradley play for several years. Can only imagine what his family must be going through at this time. Praying that the medical team figures out the problems and he makes a complete recovery. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 04, 2016, 03:35:37 PM
Thanks All-time and Magicman!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 04, 2016, 07:33:34 PM
My thoughts are with Bradley and his family. What a tragedy. Here's to hoping his situation improves!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 04, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
My prayers go out to Bradley and his family.  Good people deserve miracles and Bradley is good people. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 04, 2016, 09:19:43 PM
Prayers and thoughts help. Thanks pg04 and with age came!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 05, 2016, 03:27:08 PM
5 games on Tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Does Brockport get revenge against a solid Geneseo team at home?
Geneseo is one of those teams that seems to come up Real Big at the end of games.
The last second win against Oswego this week will propel Geneseo with enough firepower to beat Brockport in another close contest.

Buffalo State at Cortland. Another revenge game as Cortland knocked off Buffalo State on their home court early in the season.
Both teams are desperate for a win here, but I see Buffalo State pulling this one out.

The Red Dragons of Oneonta have the toughest game tonight up at Memorial Hall. Not only do they have to beat the 1st place team in the conference, they have the Magicman and his Magic Wand in the stands putting bad spells on them.
Don't know if it will be the Barn Burner played up there last season with these 2 teams, but I have to pick the Red Dragons in this one, just because I'm an Oneonta fan.

New Paltz at Potsdam should be a very entertaining game. Two teams that are playing for pride here.
I have Potsdam winning this one at home.

Fredonia at Oswego
Very tough lose for Oswego this week at Geneseo. I watched the game and definitely thought they were going to win after Brian Sortinos jump shot  with 19 seconds left but them up by 1. But a last second drive to the hoop by Kevin Crockett drive sealed the win. Oswego has been playing much better and I see them winning this game by double digits.

Enjoy the craziness.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2016, 04:25:01 PM
Friday February 5th  All ten teams in action in the SUNYAC

Brockport State  at  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

Round Two of this year's series promises to be a continuation of last Friday night's contest. In that one Brockport's  Clifton Lyerly scored with 14 seconds remaining to tie the game at 57, looking to send the game to an extra session. John Decker would have none of that, however, as he buried a 3 pointer with 4 seconds left and Geneseo did the smart thing by fouling Devonn Gavin to prevent any game tying 3 pointer at the buzzer. He made the 1st one and missed the 2nd but the Knights got the rebound to end it.

Since then Brockport took out Cortland and Geneseo won another last second decision over Oswego. The Knights can't afford a loss if they hope to catch Plattsburgh for the top seed. Brockport can't afford to falter if they want to stay ahead of the teams closing in on them for the final playoff spot. A loss tonight and they could be in 7th place after Saturday's games.

Brockport had won 8 of the past 10 meetings going into this year. The Knights are looking to sweep the season series for the 1st time since 2008-09. For some strange reason the oddsmakers have made Brockport the road favorite in this game by a slim 2 point margin. The Knights are ranked 17 spots higher than the Golden Eagles and they did beat Brockport in Brockport. That usually translates into the home team being favored in the rematch. The unknown variable is the gametime status of Port's leading scorer, Hamed Shamseldin. He missed the last game against Cortland and had limited minutes the first time they played Geneseo.

Brockport has shown that playing on the road is no big deal as they have went 4-1 away from home in the YAC. Still, I'm impressed with Geneseo and their ability to come through down the stretch. I expect another close game but think that Geneseo will prevail in this one by a 76-73 final score.   


New Paltz State  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM

Two teams playing for pride. The Hawks playing with revenge in mind also as they became the Bears only victim this year so far. Looking at Potsdam's remaining games I don't see any games I can put in the win column. The possibility of an upset can't be overlooked of course, but they have nothing but playoff contending teams left, and none of those teams can afford to lose to the last place team, if they hope to make the conference tournament. The real possibility exists of a 1-24 season for the Bears.

New Platz has come alive recently with a pair of upsets over Buff State and Cortland. Tonight won't be an upset, if they win, as the point spread favors the Hawks by a 6 point margin. As much as I'd like to see my alma mater win another game I just can't pick them to do so here. New Paltz takes this one by a 75-68 final.   


Buffalo State  at  Cortland State        7:30 PM

Another game with huge implications in the standings, as these teams jockey for positioning as they come into the stretch run. Cortland, currently in a 4th place tie with Brockport at 6-5 could find themselves in 7th place after this weekend. Buffalo State, a half game back in 6th place, needs a win here and most importantly tomorrow, against Oswego, to give them a leg up on a playoff spot. If they go 0-2 this weekend I think their chances of making the playoffs will disappear.

Cortland coming in with their first losing streak of the season having dropped back to back conference games. The Bengals got healthy against Potsdam after dropping two in a row. Last time these two met, the Red Dragons got a 3 point buzzer beater from JP Reagan to win in overtime, in Buffalo. That came just seconds after Nico McLean had made a jumper that looked to give the Bengals the win. Revenge will certainly be on the minds of the Orange and Black tonight. These teams have split the season series every year since the conference went to a double round robin with the exception of 2 years. In 2012-13 Cortland went to the 2nd round of the NCAA's  and beat Buff State twice that season. In 2010-11 Buffalo State went to the Sweet 16 and beat Cortland State twice that season. The oddsmakers must have discovered what I did as they have made Buffalo State a 1 point road favorite. The last time the score was Cortland 84 Buffalo state 83 in overtime. This time the score will be Buffalo State 80 Cortland State 77 in regulation.       


Fredonia State  at  Oswego State        7:30 PM

The Blue Devils gave the Lakers all they could handle when they played them back in early December. Fredonia got a rebound with 7 seconds left and the game tied but couldn't get off a final shot to win it and the game went into overtime. Oswego won it at the foul line in the extra session. This time the game is in Laker Hall and I'll be surprised if the Blue Devils can keep it in single digits. Oswego can't afford any slip ups here, in a game they are supposed to win.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a double digit 11 point favorite in this one. Fredonia has been playing much better in 2016 going 5-5, after a 1-7 start in 2015. The fact that they own wins over Brockport and Geneseo shows that they can play with anyone in this league, on any given night. I don't think it will be tonight though. Lakers win this one 79-67.

   
Oneonta State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM  Featured Game of the Night

The Red Dragons invade Memorial Hall looking to repeat their visit of a year ago when they took down the Cardinals on their home court. That game ended a 14 game winning streak that  Plattsburgh had over the Red Dragons dating back over 8 years. Now the Cardinals have won the last 2 in a row to start another streak.

Two weeks ago it looked like the YAC might come down to the Cardinals against the Red Dragons and this rematch might have had a lot more on the line. It's still a huge game for both teams but it's not 1 versus 2 as the Red Dragons are closer to 4th and 5th place than they are to 1st place. Plattsburgh needs to protect homecourt  in their upcoming 5 game homestand. They have proven they can win away from home, as they are currently 7-0 as road warriors.

Oneonta has dropped 3 of their last 5 conference games to fall behind Geneseo in the standings. They certainly would like to get that first round bye but if that eludes them they would like to secure a home playoff game in the first round. Plattsburgh would like to stay in the comfort zone they have built up, with that 2 game lead over Geneseo. Knowing they have to end the regular season on the Knights' home court, they would like nothing more than for that to be a meaningless game.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a slim 3 point favorite in this one, despite the fact that Plattsburgh won in Oneonta by 18. The Red Dragons have won at Geneseo and at Brockport so winning in the 'Burgh is just another step they have to take. The Cardinals should be ready for this challenge especially after allowing Brockport to come in and steal one.  I'm taking Plattsburgh to win this one by an 83-78 final.   


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 05, 2016, 08:16:16 PM
Cortland wins  63-62 over Buffalo St. at 0:05 on that man JP Reagan two FTs. Twas Reagan 3-pointer to disappoint Bengals in first meeting OT contest. Buff State in rematch misses shot at the horn. Bengals up 62-61 on L. Smith bucket at 1:28. Both teams miss FTs down the stretch and Cortland doesn't score FG in final 6:38. RDragons lead most of the final period after trailing 30-28 in fast and loose opening period. Host RDragons by seven with 9:37 left.  B. Estarfaa keys hosts offense. M. Henry pulls BS within 57-55 at 5 minute mark. Corts stretch to 61-55 on Estarfaa FTs at 3'. N. McLean hoop, D. Graver free throws and Smith hoop close the gap before Smith puts Bengals ahead. The senior first-time Dragon Reagan clutch as usual. Finishes with 13 pts(4x8fg, 4x4ft) in 27', Estarfaa 23 pts(7x14fg, 7x8ft) in 36', and  steadying backcourt hand TJ Hefele 11 pts in 31'. Smith winds up with 17 pts, 11 rebs in 32'; Henry 10 pts, 9 rebs, 5pf in 32'; McLean 11 pts in 36'

Plattsburgh 92, Oneonta 87, final. Oneonta 36-33 at half and by double figures in the second half

New Paltz 94, Potsdam 80, final

Brockport 79, Geneseo 67, final

Oswego 77, Fredonia 61, final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 05, 2016, 09:42:40 PM
Another good win for the Golden Eagles.

I'm starting to gain some confidence that they have a better than average shot at winning the conference tourney. I think they can beat any of the teams in a one game scenario. They've had an odd season in home vs. away (as was alluded to in a previous post) --- they've won at Plattsburgh, at Buffalo State, at Geneseo, and at Oswego. But then they've lost at Fredonia and at home 4 times. Some of the losses have been of the head scratching variety as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2016, 07:20:18 AM
Plattsburgh State 92    Oneonta State 87

I said this was going to be an 83-78 Plattsburgh State win and with less than a minute to go the score was 84-77 The Red Dragons were in the full out foul mode, though, and the two teams combined for 18 points in the final 44 seconds. That's a heck of a lot points in 44 seconds. Anyway it was still a 5 point margin which is exactly what I told Mikey McElroy it was going to be. I ran into him  just before game time, as he was waiting to take the court once the ladies game got over. He saw my Saratoga hat and made a comment (Mikey's from Saratoga)and I said congratulations. He said for what...and I said for hitting the 1000 point mark a couple of weeks ago. We talked about the game, how many NCAA bids the YAC might get, and the revelation that he was talking with the magicman. He was a nice young man and he had an excellent game finishing with a double-double. I came away from the evening impressed with just how good Oneonta is this year. For the better part of the night I was resigning myself to the fact that they were once again going to walk out of Memorial Hall with a W.

The Red Dragons got out of the blocks faster than Usain Bolt. After the Cardinals Kyle Richardson opened the scoring with a jumper, Oneonta tied it with one from McElroy. Jack Dignan buried a 3 pointer, Jackson Zuvic followed with a layup and Dignan drained another three. Richardson got loose and jammed one home for the Cards, but Seth Thomsen scored on a drive for Oneonta and Zuvic exhibited his range with a three pointer to make it 15-4, forcing the Cardinal's Coach Curle to signal for a time out with 15 minutes still left in the period.

Plattsburgh would close the gap to 21-18 by the 9:05 mark but the Red Dragons got back to back jumpers from Kareem Williams, a pair of free throws from Thomsen, and a 3 pointer from Ian Schupp to bump the lead to 30-18 with 6:26 left in the half. It would be the largest lead of the game for either team.     

After each team scored to make it 32-20 Plattsburgh responded with a 10-0 run of their own  to get them as close as they would be, since the opening minute of the period. The Red Dragons ended the half, the same way as they started it...with a Mikey McElroy jumper and the Cards got 1 of 2 from the line by Ed Correa to make the halftime score 36-33 in favor of Oneonta.

The 2nd half opened with a deja vu moment as Mikey McElroy swished a jumper, 20 seconds after the start. 20 seconds later he hit another jumper from downtown. After the Cardinals came up empty on their 3rd straight possession, Seth Thomsen buried a three and the lead was back to 11 points at 44-33. Jon Patron scored for Plattsburgh, but Lawrence Coleman answered with another 3 for the Red Dragons and they had equaled their largest lead of the game at 47-35. The Cards responded with 6 straight points to cut the difference in half, but over the next 5 minutes the Red Dragons continued to lead by a 5 to 9 point margin.

Down 53-44 after yet another Oneonta 3 pointer, this one from Jack Dignan, with 14 minutes remaining, the Cardinals got a basket from Jon Patron to cut the lead to 7. On the next Oneonta possession Kyle Richardson fired up the crowd and the Cardinals, as he blocked a shot, recovered the ball and went the length of the court for a resounding dunk. It was the turning point of the game. He followed that up by stealing the ball on the next Red Dragon trip downcourt and was on the verge of another giant slam when he was intentionally fouled but the ref ruled it was on the floor before the shot. All the Cards got was an inbounds pass, but Richardson made good on the possession, when he got the ball down low, and put it in for the 2 points that he was denied seconds earlier on the disputed foul. Oneonta's Lawrence Coleman made a trip to the line and hit a pair of free throws to make it 55-50 but the Cardinals were just warming up. Over the next 4 minutes Plattsburgh unleashed the full monty as all 5 Cardinal players on the floor scored, and they went on a 17-2 tear that gave them a 67-57 lead with 7:35 left in the game.

Oneonta, to their credit didn't go away, and fought back to make it 73-70 on another Jackson Zuvic 3 pointer with 3:38 to play. The Cardinals then got a drive by Eli Bryant, a 3 pointer by Ed Correa, and a big offensive rebound by Kyle Richardson, off a missed Cardinal free throw, which he turned into another 2 points, and the lead was once again double figures at 80-70 with 2:03 to go. The Cardinals hit 10 of 12 from the line down the stretch, but the 3 point shooting by the Red Dragons kept it interesting as they closed to within a single point at 88-87 after Coleman hit a long 3 pointer with 17 seconds to go. Eli Bryant then went to the line for Plattsburgh and hit 2 foul shots to give them a 3 point cushion with 9 ticks remaining. Oneonta missed a 3 point attempt and fouled one last time which made the 5 point margin of victory.

Plattsburgh had 4 players reach double figures led by Kyle Richardson and Jon Patron who both recorded double-doubles. Richardson had his 11th double-double of the season with 22 points and 12 rebounds. He added 3 blocks, 2 big steals and 1 assist.

Patron posted his 3rd double-double of the season as he poured in 20 points and grabbed a game high 15 rebounds. Both he and Richardson scored 14 points in the 2nd half to lead the Cardinal comeback.

Eli Bryant once again came up big for Plattsburgh off the bench. He totaled 18 points and has now scored in double figures in 4 straight games and 6 of the last 8. His points per game average has steadily risen from 7.3 to a season high of 10.1 giving the Cardinals a total of 5 players, now averaging double digits.

Ed Correa had 17 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists as the senior guard continues to lead the team in minutes played and made 3 pointers, as he drained 3 more bombs tonight.

Xavier Thomas had 6 points and 9 rebounds, as his high flying act constantly brings the crowd to their feet. Not many teams have a 6'2" player jumping center on the opening tip off. He wins the tip more often than not, as he did tonight.

Plattsburgh only shot 12x42 in the first half but turned things around and went 20x36 in the 2nd period to end up a respectable 41%for the game. They were 5x17 (29.4%) from long distance and 23x36 (63.9%) from the line. Oneonta got the better of them as the Red Dragons were 31x75 from the field (41.3%), 13x30 from long range (43.3%) and 12x14 from the line (85.7%).

The Cardinals had a significant advantage off the glass as they had 57 rebounds to 41 for Oneonta, due to Patron, Richardson and Thomas accounting for 36 of those boards. It also gave the Cardinals 26 second chance points to only 17 for the visitors. Both teams scored 12 points off turnovers as Plattsburgh gave up the rock 11 times to 9 for Oneonta.

Oneonta also had 4 players reach double figures with sharpshooter Jack Dignan capturing game honors with 24 points. He was 7x12 from the field and 4x4 from the line. More importantly he was 6x8 from downtown. His foot must have been on the line for the other field goal he had. ;) He also dished out 6 assists had 5 rebounds and a steal.

Mikey McElroy had a double-double with 13 points, a team high 11 rebounds 2 assists and a steal.

Lawrence Coleman had 14 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, a block and a steal.

Jackson Zuvic added 10 points, 2 rebounds and a block while Seth Thomsen had 7 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Kareem Williams came off th bench to score 8 points and grab 3 boards in 19 minutes of court time. Ian Schupp had 7 points in 11 minutes of action. He only took 3 shots and made all 3. Personally I was glad to see the coaching staff only give him 4 minutes in the 2nd half.

The fans in Memorial Hall got treated to another good game that went right down to the wire as so many games in our conference seem to be doing this year. The number of 1 or 2 possession games that have been played this year among our 10 teams is amazing. I continue to thank the basketball gods that the Cardinals have been on the winning end of so many of the nailbiters that they have been involved in.

Plattsburgh is now 16-3 overall and has taken a commanding lead in the conference race with an 11-1 record. With Geneseo's loss on Friday to Brockport, the Cardinals now have a full 3 game lead over the Knights with 6 games left to play. Three other teams, Oneonta,  Cortland, and Brockport,  are 4 games back and are tied with 7-5 records.

The Cardinals will welcome New Paltz to the 'Burgh later today for a 4 PM start time. The Hawks are coming off a win against Potsdam on Friday evening.

Oneonta is now 12-7 overall and 7-5 in the YAC. They hope to get back on the right track when they make the 90 mile trip down Route 11 to Potsdam. That game will also start at 4 PM. The Red Dragons have one thing going for them...they can still come in 2nd place and get a first round bye should the Cardinals secure the top seed. Oneonta doesn't need any help to do so either. With games left against the pair they are tied with and Geneseo, in front of them, they control their own destiny. And all three of those games will take place in Oneonta. After watching them play tonight I wouldn't bet against them.                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2016, 01:27:39 PM
Saturday February 6th 4 games on tap for today

   
Fredonia State  at  Cortland State        4:00 PM

The Red Dragons are coming off another last second win over Buffalo State. Now they have to avoid the big letdown as they host the Blue Devils, a team they have already beaten this year by 24 points. Last week they defeated Oneonta on Friday night in a close game and the next day they hosted New Paltz, a team they had already beaten by 31 points a few weeks earlier. The Hawks took it to them and won 80-74. That was a game the Red Dragons would like to replay, as it could come back to haunt them down the road. Now, today, the same scenario presents itself again. Sitting in a 3 way tie for 3rd place in the conference, every game takes on added importance with so few remaining. A loss here, with the conference so tightly bunched after Plattsburgh State, could mean a playoff berth or possibly a road game if they make the playoffs, instead of playing in front of the home fans.

The point spread has the Red Dragons favored by a 10 point margin. They should win by more than that. I think the final score will be Cortland 79 Fredonia 63.     



Oneonta State  at  Potsdam State    4:00 PM

This is another game that has the potential for a letdown on the part of these Red Dragons. Oneonta beat Potsdam 87-58 earlier this season. The Red Dragons have to be disappointed that they allowed Plattsburgh to come back and grab a win yesterday. But if they don't pay attention to the task at hand the Bears could make them pay. The point spread favors Oneonta by a 23 point margin and if the Red Dragons take out their frustrations on the Bears it will be a long day for Potsdam. I think it will be a long day for Potsdam ...Oneonta wins this one 92-68.   
   
Buffalo State  at  Oswego State        4:00 PM Featured Game of the Day

I really think that 1 of these 2 teams will be sitting at home on Tuesday February 23rd and it won't be due to the fact that they have a first round bye, either. Oswego is currently in 6th place and Buffalo State is a half game behind in 7th place. If Buffalo State wins today they will move a half game in front of Oswego but because they will have swept the season series it's like a one and a half game lead. If the Bengals lose they will be squarely behind the 8 ball and their playoff hopes will be on life support.

The Lakers are 5-2 in their last 7 games in the YAC after starting out 1-4. Part of that turnaround is the increased playing time of Mykelle Krecko. The Lakers are 4-0 in conference games that Krecko has played at least 19 minutes. They are 2-6 in conference games that he hasn't. I think the Bengals may get a healthy dose of Krecko this afternoon, something they didn't have to deal with in their earlier matchup.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slight 2 point home favorite. I'm not sure if the Bengals can win in Laker Hall, its been 6 years since they last did so. I'll go with the Lakers to protect their home court once again. Oswego 75 Buffalo State 72.     

New Paltz State  at  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM

Plattsburgh can't afford a letdown here after taking care of business yesterday. The Hawks are hungry and would love to play spoiler since they won't be partaking in post season play. Mathematically they are still alive but they would have to win their last 6 games and that's not about to happen. The oddsmakers have listed Plattsburgh as a 17 point favorite. That sounds pretty close to my calculations. Plattsburgh 87 New Platz 69. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 06, 2016, 03:27:18 PM
Predictions for todays games:

Plattsburgh all over New Paltz

Cortland over Fredonia in a game that will be closer then most people think

Oneonta all over Potsdam

Buffalo State over Oswego in a game that goes down to the final minute. Buff State is all to familiar with these situations, today is the day they pull out the nail biter.

Enjoy the craziness.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 06, 2016, 04:36:53 PM
Cortland wins 81-76 over Fredonia but quite the struggle considering RDragons with 41-20 lead at 3:38 of the first half! Was tied at 69 with 3:26 left in the contest on Devil K. Jackson hoop. B. Estarfaa and JP Reagan FTs send RDragons on top. Freds within 72-71 at 2:03 on K. Brown basket. CSt free throws close it out with Fredonia getting final deuce at 0:03. Fredonia never leads but ties at 67 at 4:33 on I. Helps' 29th point. RDragons pull reversal on C. Joseph hoop. Foul shots get Cortland to the finish line.
Dragons had their foot off the pedal late in the half with a scratch-your-head lineup of down-the-liners. Freds take advantage, close within 14 at the half and certainly grow in confidence. I. Helps with 29 (11x16fg), 6 rebs for the Devils. JP Reagan leads the hosts with 17 (5x14fg) matched by Estarfaa (3x12fg), Joseph with 13 pts and 10 rebs, J. Morales 11 pts
Cortland takes another personnel hit. Swingman J. Cooper misses his third straight game

Plattsburgh 102, New Paltz 64, concluded

Oswego 75, Buffalo St. 71, final. Twas OSt by 34-32 at half

Oneonta 84, Potsdam 68, final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 06, 2016, 07:55:59 PM
Toughest ride home of the season. My kingdom for 2 points yesterday and or 5 pts today.  Geneseo game Tuesday is a important game.  I'd say critical but Bradley Doyley has taught me the difference!

Go BENGALS!!
Go BRADLEY!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2016, 12:30:21 PM
Plattsburgh State 102   New Paltz State 64

The Cardinals haven't been very gracious to their home fans this year, as they've developed a habit of digging themselves a big hole before staging their nightly version of Harry Houdini's escape act. The last 4 times the Cardinals have taken the floor at Memorial Hall, and in 5 of the 6 games played there in 2016, their fans have been on the edge of their seats far longer than they would like to be. Yesterday afternoon the Cardinals answered the bell as they came out swinging and didn't stop until the final buzzer.

Ed Correa opened the scoring with one of his long range bombs, the first of his 6 three pointers in the game as Plattsburgh raced to a 9-0 lead. A few possessions later it was 16-3 and this game was basically over 4 minutes and thirty seconds after it started. The Plattsburgh lead just kept growing as the Cardinals, up 23-12, used a 17-2 run to make it 40-14 with 9 minutes still left in the half. The coaching staff went to the bench often, and almost half the minutes played in the first half for the Cardinals, came from the reserves. The halftime score was 56-32 and Plattsburgh had 3 players in double figures by the break.

The 2nd half was more of the same as the Cardinals' lead reached 30 points and several of the Plattsburgh starters were firmly ensconched on the bench, 6 minutes into the period. The Cardinal reserves got lots of playing time and 13 players hit the scoring column. The last 4 Plattsburgh baskets were scored on two drives by Matt Fields, and 2 more by Owen Mitchell, that put the Cardinals over the century mark for the first time since December 3rd, 2013. 

Plattsburgh was led by senior Ed Correa with 24 points (7x11 fg, 6x8 3's, 4x4 ft), 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Kyle Richardson, well on his way to another double-double after a 13 point first half, got very little court time in the 2nd period, because of the big lead and ended up with 15 points and 6 rebounds.

Jon Patron also had double figures at the half and played very little after that. He ended up with 13 points and 7 rebounds.

The X-Man, Xavier Thomas, led the team with 12 rebounds as his crowd pleasing, high flying act, reached a new level, with a putback jam from a missed Ed Correa jumper. Taking flight from the foul line the X-Man grabbed the ball in midair and slammed it home from above the rim all in one motion. It was probably the most athletic play I've ever seen him accomplish. It was an MJ move worthy of an ESPN Top Ten play.
Xavier only scored 6 points, going 3x6 from the field, but also had 4 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

Eli Bryant had 9 points off the bench in only 11 minutes of playing time.

Chris Middleton had 7 points, 4 rebounds 2 steals and 2 assists in 15 minutes.

Brandon Johnson had 7 points, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist in 9 minutes.

Isaiah Hill had 6 points in 6 minutes, Matt Fields had  4 points in 5 minutes and Owen Mitchell had 4 points with 5 rebounds in 9 minutes.

Plattsburgh shot 57.1% from the field (36x63), 61.5% from the three point line (8x13) and 68.8% from the line (22x32). The Hawks were trailing in all 3 areas, going 32.9% from th field (24x73), 33.3% from distance (9x27) and 58.3% from the line (7x12)

Plattsburgh dominated the glass by a 52 to 34 margin which led to 23 2nd chance points. The Cardinals bench scored 52 of their 102 points. Plattsburgh had 15 turnovers and the Hawks had 18.

Nick Paquette had 13 points to lead the Hawks in scoring. Cory Garcia was the only other player in double figures as he had 10 points, 5 rebounds, 4 steals and 3 assists.

Brandon Tolliver led New Paltz with 8 rebounds, to go with his 4 points, a steal and a block. Andrew Seniuk had 9 points and Brandon Guest had 8.

Plattsburgh improves to 17-3 overall and 12-1 in the SUNYAC. They have opened up a 3 and a half game lead over Geneseo. The Cardinals have clinched a playoff berth and are getting closer to their goal of gaining the top seed for the conference tournament. They will return to action this coming weekend when they host Cortland on Friday evening and Oswego on Saturday afternoon.

New Paltz is now 4-15  for the season and 3-10 in the YAC. The Hawks will host Oswego State on Tuesday at 7:30 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2016, 07:48:43 PM
The new D3hoops Top 25 has been released and Plattsburgh State, as expected after a 2-0 week, moved up 2 spots to #22. Their point total increased from 45 to 130.

Lancaster Bible continues to be the top rated East Region team at #15, but as I mentioned earlier they have reached a level that will be hard to eclipse because of their strength of schedule. They were #15 last week with 222 points and gained 17 points this week, yet failed to move up any higher.

NYU gained 13 points from last week and now has a total of 37, good enough for the #26 spot in the Other Receiving Votes category.

Rochester gets their first mention of the year after beating ranked Chicago over the weekend and cracks the poll with 2 points.

No other East Region team is mentioned.

Here's a link to the complete poll:   http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week9 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2016, 07:57:46 PM
The SUNYAC PLayer of the Week for the week ending February 7th is Brian Sortino from Oswego State.
Here's the write up from the YAC website.

Brian Sortino, Oswego State
Fairport / Fairport

Brian Sortino played 115 minutes for the Lakers this week, playing a key offensive role as the Lakers went 2-1 in conference play. The senior averaged 23.3 points per game over the stretch, scoring 70 total. Sortino shot 49.0% (24-for-49) from the field and held a 31.3% (5-16) from beyond the arc. At the charity stripe, Sortino added to his SUNYAC-high made free throws, sinking 17. Not only was the Fairport, N.Y. native a scorer but he also led the team in assists over the week with 14.

Congratulations to Brian on an outstanding week.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Final Scores and Wrap Up from Saturday

Oswego State 75      Buffalo State 71

I just missed a perfect score here as I predicted the score of this one to be a 75-72 Oswego State win. I'll have to speak to Mike Henry about that free throw he missed with 4:42 left in the game. That was the 72nd point I needed for perfection.

Another tough loss for the Bengals and this one may have been a knockout blow. They will have to put together a winning streak to end the season and get to 10 wins. Oswego with 7 wins should end up with at least 9 wins and a good chance they will own the tiebreaker over Buffalo State if they both finish 9-9. Bengals have no guarantee that 10 wins will get them a playoff spot, either, but that's the best they can do and I think they have to run the table.

Buff State grabbed an early lead but the Lakers recovered and led for most of the first half by as much as 7 points. The Bengals came back to tie it at 29 all on a Nico McLean jumper with 1:06 remaining. It was tied again at 32, but the Lakers Mark Candelario scored at the buzzer to give Oswego a 34-32 halftime edge.

Oswego came out of the break and promptly went on a 14-3 run to open up a 13 point lead at 48-35 with 14:22 on the clock. The run was fueled by 2 Alex Rawa 3 pointers and 6 points from Brian Sortino. The Bengals went 1-10 during that stretch, with a pair of turnovers.

Buffalo State started to chip away at the lead and back to back 3 point plays, an old fashioned...and one, by McLean and a 3 pointer by Kevin Marmolejos cut the lead to 52-47 with 10:17 to go. The Bengal's Jordan Chateau hit back to back shots to get the Bengals back to a 1 possession game at 56-53 but Oswego responded with a 9-4 spurt to build the lead back to 8 points. The Bengals got as close as 3 points with 44 seconds left and needing a stop got Oswego to miss a jumper by Kyle Covely but the Lakers retained possession and the Bengals had to foul. Covely made 1 of 2 to put the game away.

Brian Sortino led the Lakers with 23 points, 7 assists and 3 rebounds. Kyle Covely had 22 points, including 5 3 pointers, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Alex Rawa had 11 points, with 3 from behind the arc, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals. Mark Candelario had a double-double with 10 points, 11 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Nico McLean led the Bengals with a double-double of 20 points and 12 rebounds. He added 6 assists 3 steals and 2 blocks as well. Mike Henry had 13 points, 8 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Kevin Marmolejos had 13 points, 3 rebounds an 1 assist. Jordan Chateau had 8 points and 8 rebounds, while Lovell Smith added 8 points, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Redell Freeman came off the bench with 6 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals in 27 minutes.The Bengals were shorthanded this weekend without Jordan Glover and Leon Moise.

The teams were fairly even with shooting percentages with the Bengals slightly better than the Lakers,     39.3 % to 39.0 % from the field. The Lakers were 74.1% from the line and the Bengals were 73.1%. Oswego was 9x27 from downtown (33.3%) and Buff State was 4x16 (25%).

The Bengals won the battle of the boards, 47-35, but had 20 turnovers to only 12 for Oswego.

Buffalo State is now 12-9 overall and 6-8 in the conference and falls to 7th place. They will travel to Geneseo on Tuesday for a 7:30 PM start.

Oswego improves to 14-6 on the season and 7-6 in the YAC. They will travel to New Paltz for a Tuesday evening game.         


Oneonta State 84 Potsdam State 68

I had the Red Dragons winning this one by a 92-68 final score. The Bears did their part but Oneonta came up a bit short of my projected total. Still fairly close to the actual score.

Oneonta trailed briefly in the early stages of the first half but quickly caught and passed the Bears halfway through the period. By the 10:25 mark they  had opened up a double digit lead 25-15 lead. Still up 30-23 with 7:33 remaining, Oneonta went on an 11-2 run to increase the lead to 41 to 25 and headed into the  break up 48-31.

The Bears played a solid 2nd half and managed to hang with the Red Dragons but they could never cut into the big lead and make it a ballgame. Oneonta led throughout the period by as many as 20 and never less than 12. Potsdam scored 37 points in the half to 36 for Oneonta and the Red Dragons eased to the finish line with a comfortable 16 point win.

Mikey McElroy was the big gun for the Red Dragons tossing in 25 points with 3 boards, 3 assist and 2 blocks. Lawrence Coleman was close behind with 20 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

The Bears got 16 points each from Joe Estramonte, and Serigne Kane. Estramonte had 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal. Kane added 5 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assists. Mitch Lamerson chipped in with 12 points and 5 rebounds.

Oneonta outshot the Bears from the field (50.8% to 44.6%) and from the line by a wide margin (13x17 to 2x3). The Bears made 8x18 from long distance to 7x18 for Oneonta. The Red Dragons had 38 rebounds to 32 for the Bears and had 13 turnovers to 16 for Potsdam.

Oneonta has an overall record of 13-7 and is now tied with the other Red Dragons from Cortland for 3rd place with an 8-5 conference record. That tie will be broken on Tuesday night Feb 9th, when Oneonta hosts Cortland at the Dewar Arena at 7:30 PM.

Potsdam falls to 1-19 overall and 1-12 in the YAC. They will return to action against Oswego on Friday night when the Lakers make their annual trek up to the North Country.


Cortland 81  Fredonia 76

My prediction of a 79-63 Cortland win was well on its way of happening but took a wrong turn shortly after the 2nd half started. Still I was only 2 points off with my Cortland total but the Blue Devils put up a few more points than I expected.

   
The Red Dragons tried to give this one to Fredonia after leading the Blue Devils by 21 points near the end of the 1st half. Up 41-20 with 3:38 left in the first period, the first crack appeared in the Dragon's armor when they allowed the Blue Devils to close the half on an 8-2 burst that cut the deficit to 43-29 heading into the break.

Fredonia landed another big blow when they came out of the locker room and proceeded to rip off a 12-2 run to cut the lead to 4 points and let the Red Dragons know they were in it for the long haul. That made it 45-41 as Fredonia got 8 points from Richard De La Cruz and 4 points from Ian Helps. The Blue Devils couldn't get closer and Cortland couldn't pull away, as back and forth play went on for the next 4 minutes. Finally the Red Dragons built the lead back to 10 points with 9:25 left to play. The Blue Devils answered with 6 straight points to close the gap again, at 61-57, with 8 minutes left. When Kareem Brown drained a 3 pointer for Fredonia, a few minutes later,the comeback was complete, the score was tied at 65 and there was 5:13 left to play.

However the Blue Devils couldn't take the next step and twice had the opportunity to take the lead but failed to convert. The first time they turned it over and the 2nd time their shot was blocked. Cortland up by 1 at that point, 70-69 was fouled and JP Reagan made both free throws to put the Dragons up by 3 points with 2:18 to play. Brown nailed another jumper for Fredonia and Cortland's Blair Estarfaa made another pair from the line. Four straight possessions, 2 by each team, resulted in no points  and when Fredonia, down by 3, stole the ball with 42 seconds left, they took a timeout. Seconds later they turned it over and had to foul, as TJ Hefele went to the line. he made the first one, missed the 2nd and Cortland's James Morales got the rebound. He was fouled and also made 1 of 2 from the line. Down 76-71 with 33 seconds left the Blue Devils needed to score  and when they came up empty, it was Carrel Joseph's turn to make 1 of 2 from the line for Cortland. Fredonia then went to the line but missed the front end of a 1&1 and when Cortland rebounded the miss, Estarfaa went to the line for 2 more free throws to put the game out of reach. Brandon Hodge hit a 3 ball for Fredonia and Estarfaa made 2 more from the line to close out the scoring.

Estarfaa and Reagan both had 17 points to lead Cortland. Reagan also had 7 rebounds. Carrel Joseph had 13 points and 10 rebounds while James Morales had 11 points and 4 rebounds.

Ian Helps led all scorers with 29 points for the Blue Devils. He had 6 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 assists and a steal.
Jared Fish and 10 points with 7 rebounds and Richard De La Cruz had 10, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Cortland improves to 14-6 overall and 8-5 in the conference. They invade Oneonta to try and take over sole possession of 3rd place on Tuesday night.

Fredonia falls to 6-14 overall and 5-9 in the YAC. They are pretty much eliminated from playoff contention and will look to play spoiler for the remainder of the season. They would like to start doing that by beating Brockport for a 2nd time this season, on Tuesday night.               

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 12:45:17 PM
Tuesday February 9th  4 games on tap

Oswego State  at  New Paltz State   7:30 PM

The Lakers are in 6th place in the conference and hold a one and a half game lead over Buffalo State. A win tonight would really make that a 3 game lead with 4 games to play, since Oswego holds the tiebreaker over the Bengals.  Lakers also shooting for a better position than 6th place and with the teams ahead of them so tightly bunched a good weekend can do wonders. They can start tonight by taking care of business against the Hawks.

Oswego won by double digits just a few weeks ago and the point spread has them favored by 12 points tonight. I think they will cover that spread and win by a 77-62 final score.


Buffalo State  at  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

Both these teams need to win in the worst way. Geneseo if they have any hope of catching Plattsburgh for the top seed has to win tonight. They simply cannot afford to go 4 games down to Plattsburgh with 5 games to play. They also need to protect the #2 seed and get that first round bye. A loss tonight will drop them behind the winner of the Oneonta-Cortland game. They are coming off a loss at home to their travel partner, Brockport State, and that cost them a golden opportunity to put some distance between themselves and the rest of the pack. Now it's a dogfight, and they have 3 games in a row on the road after tonight. Plus they host Plattsburgh State on the final day of conference play and that game will surely be a must win for the Knights to grab one of the top two seeds.

Buffalo State has shot themselves in the foot with 4 losses in their last 5 games. They lost those 4 games by a total of 11 points, so the pain is obvious to this concerned bystander. Two of their other conference losses were also heartbreakers, with one coming on a last second 3 pointer by Plattsburgh to force overtime which led to a loss and the other coming on a last second 3 pointer by Cortland to win back in December. They lost the 4 games to Plattsburgh and Cortland by a combined total of about 15 seconds. Now the Bengals simply cannot afford to lose any more games. Their playoff hopes are already on life support because they need help to make the playoffs. Even if they win their last 4 games to get to 10-8 that still may not get them into 6th place. But they certainly won't have a chance if they lose 1 more.

The oddsmakers have listed the Bengals as a slim 1 point road favorite in this game and I find that a bit unusual since the Knights are ranked 49 places higher than Buffalo State. If there are any basketball gods looking down on the Bengals they should be shining a light on the Orange and Black, to make up for the trials and tribulations they have put this team through, this season. My heart says the Bengals are overdue, my head says...Geneseo won in Buffalo, Ringen and Decker will shoot lights out on their home court, and the Bengals may be shorthanded. I'm going with my head on this one and taking Geneseo to win by an 86-82 final score. But I hope I'm wrong and the Bengals stay alive, while my Cardinals get a bigger lead in the standings.           




Cortland State  at  Oneonta State    7:30 PM   Featured Game of the Day

The 2nd Battle of the Red Dragons should once again come down to the final few minutes of the game. Oneonta needs this one more than Cortland or those Red Dragons will own the series sweep against Oneonta. Tied at 8-5 the winner of this game will find themselves in 2nd place if Geneseo loses tonight which is a distinct possibility.

The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 6 point favorite and I'll be surprised if Mikey McElroy and friends allow Cortland to win this one. The last one was decided by a key 3 point shot in the final minute that gave Cortland a 2 possession lead. This time I think it will be Oneonta hitting that big shot down the stretch. I'm taking the Red Dragons to win by an 83-78 final score. That's the Oneonta variety just so there's no mistaken identity here. ;D 
 

   
Fredonia State  at  Brockport State    7:30 PM

The Golden Eagles have won two big games in a row and have put themselves in position to challenge for the #2 seed and a first round bye. I think the top seed is out of reach since they already have 5 losses but if they win out, they own the tiebreaker over Geneseo and everyone else, at the present time, because they are the only team to defeat # 1 Plattsburgh. They would certainly like to have a do over on the last Fredonia game. That may be the one that could come back to haunt them. Tonight they hope to make up for that misstep and possibly move up another rung on the SUNYAC stepladder. A win here will certainly move them up one spot and possibly two depending on the outcome of the other games.

The point spread has the Golden Eagles winning by a 13 point margin. Fredonia has nothing to lose and they played Cortland pretty tough the other night. I'm not sure they will lose this game by double digits but I do think they will lose this game. Brockport keeps their winning streak alive as they take this one by a 76-67 final score.        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 09, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
4 games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Oswego all over New Paltz

Buffalo State desperate for a win @ Geneseo wins a close one to keep their playoff hopes alive.

Brockport wins going away against Fredonia

The Oneonta Red Dragons beat up Cortland tonight in a packed house at Dewar Arena

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2016, 08:11:23 PM
Cortland 25, Oneonta 21, half.  Fire breathing RDragons not in the house. OSt shooting at a 28 percent fg clip, Corts 32 percent. Host Oneonta holds the edge till M. Kelly and C. Joseph three-pointers. Joseph with 8 pts paces Cortland. M. McElroy 5 pts heads Oneonta. Cortland's B. Estarfaa scoreless in 18 minutes. Exits briefly with ailing leg/ankle
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 08:16:50 PM
jdex

Neither team shooting very well.  A combined 5 for 29 from long distance. Didn't see the injury to Estarfaa as I was watching Geneseo-Buff St. What happened?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 08:19:30 PM
Geneseo leads Buffalo State 43-40 at the half.

John Decker with 15 and justin Ringen with 13 for the Knights.

Lovell Smith with 12 and Kevin Marmolejos with 11 for the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 08:22:58 PM
Oswego over New Paltz 41-30 at the break.

Mykelle Krecko with 9 to lead Oswego. There's a name I've been touting for a while.

Brandon Guest with 8 for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 08:25:24 PM
Brockport leads Fredonia by a 41-29 score at the break.

Levi Pace with 10 and Clifton Lyerly with 7 for Port.

Ian Helps with 6 points to lead Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 09, 2016, 09:08:04 PM
Cortland 64, Oneonta 56, final.  Final score the game's largest margin as CSt sweeps regular season series. Corts by 25-21 at halftime and emerge in second half for six point lead. OSt responds from longrange -- J. Zuvic with a pair of treys. M. McElroy leads Oneonta to 44-43 edge at the 10 minute mark. CSt's C. Joseph quick to answer to give guests a lead they would never relinquish. TJ Hefele trey at five minutes widens the lead to 55-48. L. Coleman immediately connects from the left corner arc. J. Morales hits clutch corner hoop for Cortland with shot clock nearly expired for 57-51 lead. Joseph triple extends it to seven points. Zuvic counters at 1:40. Hefele driving feed for D. Hampton layup at 1:10 and it's 62-56. Corts play well down the stretch. B. Estarfaa free throws at 0:26 seal it.

Joseph with 14 pts(4x9 3s), 8 rebs in 33 minutes. JP Reagan 10 pts in 19 minutes and unusually not on the floor at the end. Ten Cortlanders score -- bench plays well. Estarfaa with 5 assts, 6 pts(2x9fg) in 36'. Briefly shaken up in opening frame. D. Hampton for Cots with 8 vital pts, 5 rebs in 19'. McElroy with 20 points(9x18fg), 4 assts in 36'  for OSt, Zuvic 12 pts in 23', Coleman 11 pts, 12 rebs in 26'; J. Kolosky 10 rebs.  Some cockeyed shooting throughout -- Cortland 25x66fg, 8x27 3s, 6x10ft; Oneonta 21x63fg, 7x35 3s, 7x11ft. OSt 45-41 board edge. Ball a tad slick both ways as far as turnovers, though Oneonta 13 nearly twice that of Cortland. CSt bench 33 pts, OSt 10

Cortland in north country hike for Friday tip with Pburghers and Saturday matinee vs. Pdamers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 10:09:53 PM
Buffalo State defeats Geneseo  92-87.

Bengals down 80-73 with 5 minutes to go end the game on a 19-7 run to win in Geneseo.

Bengals get contributions from 5 different players down the stretch to pull out the win

Kevin Marmolejos with 22 points to lead Buffalo State. He was 6x16 from long range.

Mike Henry had 20 points and 9 rebounds. Lovell Smith had 20 points and 6 rebounds.

Nico McLean had a double-double with 18 points and 10 rebounds. he also had 6 assists.


Geneseo was led by Justin Ringen who was the game's leading scorer with 28 points. He had 8 rebounds and was 5x9 from downtown.

John Decker scored 22 points and was also 5x9 from 3 point range. Jordi Menkhorst added 10 points and 5 rebounds.

Buffalo State keeps their playoff hopes alive for the time being. They improve to 13-9 overall and 7-8 in the YAC. They remain in 7th place  and will travel to Fredonia on Friday to take on the Blue Devils.

Geneseo falls to 14-6 overall and 8-5 in the YAC. They are now in 3rd place,  a half game behind Cortland. They will travel to New Platz on Friday and look to get back on the winning track. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2016, 10:24:10 PM
Oswego State 73 New Paltz 57

Brian Sortino with 20 points and Mykelle Krecko with 13 to lead the Lakers.

RJ Rosa had 18 and Brandon Guest had 15.

Oswego moves to 15-6 overall and 8-6 in the conference. They are now tied with Oneonta for 5th place. The Lakers travel north on Friday to take on Potsdam

New Paltz drops to 4-16 overall and 3-11 in the YAC. They will host Geneseo on Friday.                                                                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2016, 02:26:25 AM
Brockport 82 Fredonia 58

The Golden Eagles shot out to a double digit lead after 7 minutes of play and were comfortably ahead the rest of the way. The were up by 12 at the break and opened the 2nd half with a 16-3 run that had them up by 25 points with 14 minutes left to play. Tonight there would be no Fredonia comeback and the Eagles got some revenge for last month's upset by the Blue Devils.

Brockport had 12 players break into the scoring column led by Clifton Lyerly with 17 points. Levi Pace had 12 points and 7 rebounds and Olusola Adeniran had 11 points.

Ian Helps was the only Blue Devil that was in double figures with 10 points.

Brockport ups their record to 13-7 and moves into a 3rd place tie in the conference with an 8-5 mark. They are tied with their travel partner, Geneseo, but currently own the tiebreaker over the Knights, so for now they are in 3rd place by themselves. They are also tied with 2nd place Cortland in the loss column and already own a victory over the Red Dragons. These 2 teams will meet again in a week and even if Brockport loses that game they will still hold the tiebreaker over Cortland by virtue of their win over Plattsburgh, should they end up in a tie at the end of the regular season. While catching Plattsburgh for the top seed looks to be out of range for anyone in the YAC, that all important 2nd seed is wide open and the Golden Eagles have the inside track after tonight's action.

Brockport will return to action on Friday night when they travel to New Paltz for a 7:30 PM tip off.

Fredonia, now 6-15, 5-10 will be back in action on Friday night when they host Buffalo State, also at 7:30 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 10, 2016, 01:53:53 PM
Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 10, 2016, 02:29:47 PM
Magicman......Congrats!.......Do not know how you did it.....but that magic  stick go your team to the TOP spot in the first Regional rankings. 8-)
Await your analyses of the rankings :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2016, 04:51:18 PM
Quote from: amh63 on February 10, 2016, 02:29:47 PM
Magicman......Congrats!.......Do not know how you did it.....but that magic  stick go your team to the TOP spot in the first Regional rankings. 8-)
Await your analyses of the rankings :)

Ditto on the congrats to the Cards. 4 out of top 6 teams are 'Yac's too!  3 bids (at least) or bust!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
The first set of Regional Rankings have been released and there really aren't any surprises to be found.

East – NCAA data sheet

1 Plattsburgh State 17-3 17-3
2 Rochester 14-5 14-6
3 SUNY Geneseo 14-4 14-5
4 Oswego State 14-6 14-6
5 SUNY Oneonta 13-7 13-7
6 St. John Fisher 15-5 15-5

The SUNYAC has been the strongest conference in the East Region this year and 4 teams have made the grade. No surprise that Plattsburgh State is #1 in the East. They have been the  dominant team in the dominant conference in the region. With a 12-1 record in the conference they could clinch the top seed as early as this Friday night depending on the results of other games. If they win both games this weekend they will clinch the regular season crown, regardless of what other teams do. 


Rochester has strung together a recent 6 game winning streak or the top 4 teams would have been from the SUNYAC. They face a big game with NYU on Sunday

Last night's losses by both Geneseo and Oneonta mean that there will be wholesale changes next week when the new rankings are released.

Brockport State won last night and if they can get a pair of wins this weekend they could make a big move up the ladder. They possess the strongest SOS of any team in the East Region.

Rochester has twice as many losses as NYU yet they are #2 and NYU with a gaudy 17-3 record has such a weak SOS that they are left off.

Lancaster Bible ranked #15 by D3hoops Top 25 has the weakest SOS of any team in the East Region at .421. They have the best record in the East Region at 17-0 (19-0 overall) and yet aren't mentioned in the Regional Rankings. Kind of a crazy scenario if they were to lose in their conference tournament. They are obviously a very good team and probably merit their D3hoops ranking, or something very close to the #15 spot, but if they are unranked and lose the automatic bid, there's a good chance they will not get a Pool C bid.

These rankings are very close to what KnightSlappy had posted on Monday The only difference is he had 5 SUNYAC schools in the Rankings. He had Brockport after Geneseo and then Oswego in 5th and Oneonta in 6th. Fisher was in the 7th spot.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 11, 2016, 12:57:50 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
Last night's losses by both Geneseo and Oneonta mean that there will be wholesale changes next week when the new rankings are released.

Well, we were going to see a lot of changes anyway because vRRO wasn't a factor this past week. That always shakes up the rankings.

Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
Brockport State won last night and if they can get a pair of wins this weekend they could make a big move up the ladder. They possess the strongest SOS of any team in the East Region.

Brockport has one major problem... they have taken a lot of losses. Assuming they are at-large team, meaning another loss, their SOS isn't going to help them that much.

Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
Lancaster Bible ranked #15 by D3hoops Top 25 has the weakest SOS of any team in the East Region at .421. They have the best record in the East Region at 17-0 (19-0 overall) and yet aren't mentioned in the Regional Rankings. Kind of a crazy scenario if they were to lose in their conference tournament. They are obviously a very good team and probably merit their D3hoops ranking, or something very close to the #15 spot, but if they are unranked and lose the automatic bid, there's a good chance they will not get a Pool C bid.

You can see more of what I said on this topic here: http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4232.msg1729948#msg1729948

Basically, LBC is getting screwed by their SOS... but maybe too much. To be honest, I can see a scenario where they aren't in the tournament (read the previous link).

Quote from: magicman on February 10, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
These rankings are very close to what KnightSlappy had posted on Monday The only difference is he had 5 SUNYAC schools in the Rankings. He had Brockport after Geneseo and then Oswego in 5th and Oneonta in 6th. Fisher was in the 7th spot.       

Remember one thing, KnightSlappy isn't considering all the criteria. There are some avenues he isn't considering like common opponents and the like. He is going on some of the criteria, basically the hard data numbers. He would be the first to tell you that. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 11, 2016, 03:38:27 PM
Well then, Dave, Brockport will just have to sweep through the SUNYAC tournament  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 11, 2016, 04:13:37 PM
pg4.....where there is a will, there is a way!   Wanted to use that phrase for awhile. Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2016, 10:38:35 AM
Nice article about Plattsburgh State on the front page of D3hoops. Rob Knox who writes the "Around the Nation" column featured the Cardinals in his latest column. Here's the link:

http://d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-nation/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 12, 2016, 11:54:20 AM
Fantastic Article about the Plattsburgh Cardinals. Absolutely FANTASTIC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2016, 02:25:10 PM
Friday February 12th    All ten teams in action


Geneseo State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Knights are one of three teams with 5 losses, fighting for what looks to be the #2 seed in the conference tournament. Cortland and Brockport are the other two teams in the mix.  The Knights own the tiebreaker over Cortland by virtue of a season sweep. However Brockport owns the tiebreaker over both the other two at the moment.

Geneseo can't afford to lose to a non-playoff team and the Hawks have been eliminated from postseason play. They did made a game of it when they met in Geneseo as the Knights only won by a slim 71-67 margin. The Hawks came from an 11 point halftime deficit to grab the lead with 6:39 left in the game. They were still up by 3 points at 61-58 with 4:21 to go, but back to back 3 pointers by Justin Ringen and Charlie Zaepfel put the Knights back in front. The Hawks' Nick Paquette tied the score with a 3 pointer but John Decker hit a pair of free throws and then buried another 3 pointer to give the Knights a 5 point lead with just seconds left as they escaped with a win.

I don't think the Hawks will be able to match that effort tonight. Geneseo is favored by 11 points and that's pretty close to my forecast on this one. Geneseo 80 New Paltz 69. 


Buffalo State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

The Bengals are on life support. They managed to keep their playoff hopes alive with a big win at Geneseo on Tuesday night, but they are still on the outside looking in. Even if they win tonight, and the two teams directly  in front of them, Oneonta and Oswego, both lose, they will still be in 7th place. Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway) tonight is another must win situation for the Bengals.

I'm not sure if Fredonia is officially eliminated from playoff contention, but as far as I'm concerned they are. So they are really playing for pride and with no pressure on expectations, other than to finish the year on a positive note. Buffalo State needs to play as hard against this team, as they would if they were playing for 1st place in the YAC. A letdown of any kind here could be fatal.

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals an 11 point favorite despite the fact that the Blue Devils only lost by 8 points when they met in the Queen City. Bengals haven't blown out very many teams this year, so I think that Fredonia can keep this one from becoming a laugher. Buffalo State wins by an 83-75 final score.       

   
Brockport State  at  Oneonta State        7:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

Picking this game will be a difficult task. Both teams need a win here in the worst way, to keep their hopes alive for a #2 seed. The Red Dragons won the first meeting in Brockport with a come from behind 2nd half.

The Golden Eagles are playing some of their best ball of the season with wins in 5 of their last 6 games, including a win at Plattsburgh. They are coming off double digit wins against Fredonia, Geneseo and Cortland. Impressive stuff.

Oneonta has lost 4 of their last 6 and hasn't beat a contender since that game against Brockport back on January 9th. Their last 4 wins have all been against the bottom 3 teams in the YAC.

The oddsmakers have favored the home team Dragons by a single point, but I'm thinking that the Golden Eagles won't want to be swept in the season series. I'm taking Brockport to keep their winning streak alive. Hoping to see Hamed Shamseldin in the lineup tonight for the Golden Eagles. He's missed the last 3 games and was playing hurt in the 2 games preceding those 3. Eagles have still been playing great without him. Brockport 77 Oneonta 74.   

   
Oswego State  at  Potsdam   State     7:30 PM

The Lakers have made a big turnaround after their 1-4 conference start and are still in the hunt for a first round bye. Currently tied with Oneonta for 5th place in the standings, they can't afford to lose to the last place Bears with so much on the line.

Potsdam played the Lakers tough down in Oswego and were only down 70-66 with 3 minutes to go. Lakers Brian Sortino took matters into his own hands and scored 11 straight points for Oswego and they walked off the floor with an 81-72 win.

The point spread has the Lakers favored by a big 21 point margin. I think that may be a few too many. Lakers win 79-64.

Cortland State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM Co-Featured Game of the Day

Plattsburgh State is still flying high as the Cardinals stretch their latest unbeaten streak to 5 games and 13 of their last 14. With a win tonight and losses by Geneseo and Brockport the Cardinals could clinch the top seed in the conference with the right to host the final four.

Cortland, alone in 2nd place by a half game, is also playing some good ball as they have put together a 3 game winning streak. They would love to win this game as it could give them a possible tiebreaker edge down the road should that come into play.

The teams played a close contest at Cortland earlier that could have went either way. Plattsburgh was only up 4 points with 1:41 to play but the Cards' Ed Correa hit 5 of 6 free throws down the stretch to hold off the Red Dragons and win by a 75-68 final score.  Plattsburgh held Cortland to a season worst 5 for 39 from 3 point land in that game. I can't believe the Red Dragons will repeat that poor effort. Still, the Cardinals possess one of the best 3 point defenses in all of Division III so they will, once again, put a lot of pressure on Blair Estarfaa, JP Regan and company. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 6 point home favorite. I see this game as a higher scoring affair than the one in Cortland. Plattsburgh wins it 86-78.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 12, 2016, 02:40:09 PM
Everyone in action tonight as the regular season is winding down.
7 teams fighting for 6 playoff spots.
Who is Going to Finish Strong?

Geneseo Runs away from New Paltz

Oswego does the same to Potsdam

Plattsburgh beats up on Cortland

Buffalo State a double digit winner over Fredonia

What Oneonta team shows up tonight? After a very lackluster performance against their rival Cortland on Tuesday night at a packed Dewar Arena will the Red Dragons get it together against Brockport. I certainly hope so. Coach Dunn would like nothing better than to beat Oneonta at home. I'm picking Oneonta in a low scoring game. 64-58

Enjoy the Craziness
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 12, 2016, 06:34:07 PM
Man if I read any more articles about Magicman's Cards I might become a "fanatical fan"...like someone we all know and love!! Go Cards!!  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2016, 06:36:20 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 12, 2016, 11:54:20 AM
Fantastic Article about the Plattsburgh Cardinals. Absolutely FANTASTIC

Indeed. Plus k Cards!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 12, 2016, 06:34:07 PM
Man if I read any more articles about Magicman's Cards I might become a "fanatical fan"...like someone we all know and love!! Go Cards!!  :D

Now who could you possibly be talking about???????? ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2016, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 12, 2016, 06:34:07 PM
Man if I read any more articles about Magicman's Cards I might become a "fanatical fan"...like someone we all know and love!! Go Cards!!  :D

Now who could you possibly be talking about???????? ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 12, 2016, 06:48:29 PM
Haven't a clue?? ::)  Nothing like plausible deniability!!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2016, 07:13:41 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 12, 2016, 06:48:29 PM
Haven't a clue?? ::)  Nothing like plausible deniability!!! ;)

For sure my friend.....for sure!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2016, 07:15:28 PM
Fwiw.  I just got from a real RELIABLE source that the Buuf State Fredonia game is gonna start real late!  Bus is in some real bad weather on the 90!


Edited to add: from a reliable source ....refs are running late. Game to start at 8:30. I trust this source!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2016, 08:25:03 PM
Plattsburgh 99, Cortland 78, final. And it was not that close!! Cardinals could have named their number. J. Patron 21 pts(9x13fg) in 26 minutes, E. Correa 19 pts, X. Thomas 16 pts, K. Richardson 14 pts in 21', E. Bryant 10 pts. Cardinals get little resistence, especially inside. Men against boys. Pburgh 58 percent fg on 37x63 pops (7x24 3s). Outboard the visitors 46-29TJ Hefele 21 pts for Corts

Plattsburgh 49, Cortland 38, half. Cards having their way in most areas. No surprise. Get off quickly. Double digit lead till late in the period. TJ Hefele (14 pts, 4x5 3s) keeps RDragons somewhat in contention. Within seven. E. Bryant sinks a triple at 0:03 for the Burghers who shoot 57 percent from the field

Geneseo 77, New Paltz 63

Brockport 65, Oneonta 56

Oswego 45, Potsdam 40 two minutes into the second half

Buffalo St. 28, Fredonia 24 with just over 8 minutes to play in the opening half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2016, 10:03:55 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2016, 06:37:25 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 12, 2016, 06:34:07 PM
Man if I read any more articles about Magicman's Cards I might become a "fanatical fan"...like someone we all know and love!! Go Cards!!  :D

Now who could you possibly be talking about???????? ::)

At the Plattsburgh State-Cortland State women's game and about halfway thru the 3rd quarter my ears start burning. Now I know why!  ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2016, 11:07:28 PM
I believe that Fredonia State just beat Buffalo State but I dont know the final score as the live stats quit working with 7:51 to go and the video feed quit working with around 12 seconds left.

Buff State scored on a 3 pointer from Kevin Marmolejos to narrow the Blue Devil lead to 2 points. Then they  went into their full court press on the Fredonia inbounds. The Blue Devils failed to get the ball over half court in time and were whistled for a 10 second violation. The Bengals inbounded the ball to Marmolejos, I believe, who turned and drove to the hoop and appeared to have a step on his defender, when another Blue Devil player ran up and stopped just short of Marmolejos and the 2 collided. The call was a charge and that's when the video went kaput. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2016, 11:18:58 PM

Fredonia 91, Buffalo St. 88

Oswego 80, Potsdam 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2016, 11:19:38 PM
Finally a box score on the Buffalo State-Fredonia State game and the final score was Blue Devils 91 Bengals 88.

They did call a charge on Kevin Marmolejos with 18 seconds left and the score was 87-85. The Bengals had to foul and Brandon Hodge made both free throws to make it a 2 possession game. The Bengals then turned it over but Fredonia returned the favor and Marmolejos drained another 3 pointer to make it 89-88 with 6 ticks left. Bengals foul Ian Helps who made both free throws to make the final 91-88. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 13, 2016, 02:45:27 AM
I wonder what happened to my fellow Golden Eagle fan scooter man! A great stretch for Brockport. Keep it rolling tomorrow....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2016, 11:22:20 AM
Plattsburgh State has moved up to #16 in the Massey Ratings. I believe that's the highest a SUNYAC school has been this season. Plattsburgh is now the top rated East Region team as they overtook Lancaster Bible last night.

Other East Region schools:

#17   Lancaster Bible
#28   NYU
#29   Rochester
#54   Brockport State
#61   St. John Fisher
#67   Oswego State
#73   Geneseo State
#76   Hartwick
#85   Oneonta State
#106 Nazareth
#107 Cortland State
#131 Buffalo State
#133 Skidmore
#139 St. Lawrence
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2016, 12:26:11 PM

Plattsburgh    13-1   18-3
Geneseo          9-5   15-6
Brockport         9-5   14-7
Cortland          9-6    15-7
Oswego           9-6    16-6
Oneonta          8-7    13-9
Buffalo St.       7-9    13-10
Fredonia          6-10    7-15
New Paltz        3-12    4-17
Potsdam          1-13    1-20

What's left for playoff contenders....

Plattsburgh: Oswego, Potsdam, @Bport, @ Geneseo
Geneseo: @Oneonta, @Oswego, Potsdam, Pburgh
Brockport: @NP, @Cortland, Pburgh, Potsdam
Cortland: @Potsdam, Bport, Oswego
Oswego: @Pburgh, Geneseo, @Cortland
Oneonta: Geneseo, @Fredonia, @Buff St
Buffalo St.: NP, Oneonta
Fredonia: Canton (NC), Oneonta, NP

Playoff scenario -- as far as six team makeup, will likely be reached before next weekend. Which means doom and gloom for still breathing Buff St. and Fredonia. Both won't see conference play again till next weekend's closing regular season schedule

As far as the playoff slotting ......Plattsburgh will be No. 1. We'll go out on that sturdy limb!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 13, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
4 Games on tap today in the SUNYAC

Brockport coming off an inspired win last night at Oneonta, beats up on New Paltz

Cortland over Potsdam in a close one.

Plattsburgh in a tough one squeaks out a win against Oswego

It's Senior Day at Oneonta today against Geneseo. Can't quite explain what has happened to the Red Dragons of late.
They don't seem to have that hop in their step that they had earlier in the season. I'm hoping they get it back today.
A lot of Seniors playing their last regular season game at home, Oneonta wins a close one.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
Saturday February 13th   4 games on the schedule for today

Brockport   State  at  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

The Golden Eagles did what they had to last night to maintain their share of 2nd place. By beating Oneonta on the road they prevented a fall all the way down to 6th place. Instead it's the Red Dragons who find themselves in the final playoff position. Brockport got some help from Plattsburgh who knocked off Cortland and sent those Red Dragons into a 4th place tie with Oswego. If Brockport can win today and Oneonta defeats Geneseo then Brockport will be in the drivers seat for the 2nd seed in the YAC.

The last time Brockport met the Hawks it was an easy 89-55 win and today the point spread favors the Golden Eagles by 16 points. The Hawks will be hard pressed to keep it that close. Brockport wins this one by a 86-62 final score.

Geneseo State  at  Oneonta State        4:00 PM

Oneonta is reeling and with the Knights coming to town it may be hard to get healthy. The Red Dragons could be in a scenario where they need to win their final game of the season at Buffalo State in order to make the playoffs. A win today and next Friday at Fredonia would make that final game in Buffalo meaningless.

Geneseo still has hopes for the 2nd seed but must keep pace with Brockport, who looks to have an easier time of it down the stretch than the Knights do. This game has huge implications for both teams and the oddsmakers have made the home team Red Dragons a slight 3 point favorite. Oneonta won the first encounter but they were playing their best basketball of the season at that time. Since then they have struggled mightily and I don't think today will be any different. I'm going with the visitors here to win a close one. Geneseo 79 Oneonta 76.

   
Cortland State  at  Potsdam   State     4:00 PM

The Bears are on their way to a 1-17 conference record. I don't see a win in their future. Cortland got spanked yesterday by the Cardinals and will be looking to do the same to Potsdam. The point spread favors Cortland by an 18 point margin. Not sure if the Bears can beat the spread or not. They hung with Oswego yesterday and had the lead at the half, but a 12-2 run by the Lakers to open the 2nd half was enough to end their hopes of an upset.

Cortland needs a win to stay with Oswego and hope they can fight their way back into contention for the 2nd seed. They get it today rather easily as they defeat the Bears by an 85-68 final score.

      
Oswego State  at  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM   Featured Game of the Day

The Cardinals still have a bitter taste in their mouth over the defeat that the Lakers gave them last February in the championship game of the SUNYAC tournament. After beating Oswego twice during the regular season they fell behind the Lakers early in the championship game by a double digit margin and couldn't recover. It cost Plattsburgh a 3rd straight trip to the NCAA tournament. So the revenge factor is still huge even though the Cardinals beat Oswego earlier this season in their first meeting. Plattsburgh hasn't sewn up the top seed in the YAC just yet, but a win today will take care of that and the players all know what's on the line in today's game.

The Lakers have a new weapon since the last itime these teams met. He's not really new but he's certainly seeing a lot more action than the 5 minutes of court time he got in their last meeting. I'm referring to 6'10" Mykelle Krecko, who has went from a bench player barely playing in some games, to a starter averaging around 18-20 minutes per game. He has started the last 7 games for the Lakers and played at least 19 minutes in 2 other games. The Lakers record in those 9 games is 8-1 with only a last second loss to Geneseo (a game in which he started but only played 12 minutes). Krecko, despite not playing in 6 of Oswego's games and getting 5 minutes or less in 5 other games leads the SUNYAC in blocked shots. That's rather amazing. Today Krecko will have a homecoming of sorts as he played for Clinton Community College for 2 years which is located here in Plattsburgh. I'm hoping he doesn't have one of those monster games he used to have while playing here in the 'Burgh.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 6 point favorite in this one. I think the Cardinals will be in for a battle but it's Senior Day so I don't think our 3 seniors, Kyle Richardson, Ed Correa and Xavier Thomas will want to walk off Memorial Hall with  anything but a W.   I see the Cardinals winning by an 86-77 final score.     

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 13, 2016, 01:59:50 PM
If it wasn't for Potsdam I might wish for a 4 game losing streak for the Cards. Also, I can't in good conscience root against Magicman except against Brockport.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 13, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
Cortland 87, Potsdam 71, final. RDragons hit 51 percent of fg tries. B. Estarfaa 17 pts(7x13fg) in victory. TJ Hefele 14 pts(5x10fg, 3x7 3s), 4 assts; JP Reagan 14 pts(6x10fg), C. Joseph 11 pts, M. Kelly 11 pts. J. Estramonte 24 pts)9x18fg, 5x11 3s) for the Bears. N. Onabor 15 pts, M. Lamerson 14 pts, S. Kane 13 pts. RDragons 45-32  at the half and extend to 24 with four minutes left. Count a mere 6 turnovers

Oswego 90, Plattsburgh 74, final. Might wish to take note of two posts down. Seems to have taken a toll. AND THEN THERE WAS B. Sortino with 38 pts(13x25fg, 8x12 3s) to lead Laker barrage. Has 28 pts in the second half. Adds 7 assts in 40' of play. Oswego 18x32 in 3s!!! Overall 33x65fg for the visitors. Pburgh 26x64fg. K. Richardson 24 pts(8x15fg), 8 rebs

Geneseo 79, Oneonta 74, final. J. Ringen FTs at 0:07. Finishes with 26 pts(9x15fg, 4x7 3s) in 40 minutes. K. Crockett 13 pts, J. Decker 12 pts in 29', C. Keenan 10 pts. Gens 25x49fg to OSt 39 percent and 9x32 3s). RDragon M. McElroy 19 pts, 10 rebs; L. Coleman 19 pts

Brockport 84, New Paltz 70, final. Ports fires at 55 percent fg clip (34x61) led by C. Lyerly 24 pts, 13 rebs. D. Gavin with 15 pts, M. Smith 10 pts. NP 11x25 from the arc. D. Balducci 14 pts for the Hawks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 13, 2016, 04:37:45 PM
Someone tell the top 3 to wake up

Edit: someone did

Edit 2: Partially...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 13, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Terrible, selfish play by Cardinal player Jonathan Patron to get tossed from the game.  He threw the ball at the official after a foul call and deserved the ejection.  Oswego has gone on a 14-4 run since to make a one point game an 11 point game with 9:03 to go.

edit:  Now it's a 25-9 run...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2016, 02:03:37 AM
One week left. 5 playoffs births have been awarded. Playoffs start for 4 of those 5 on the 23rd. Playoffs start for Buff State and Oneonta next Friday. 1 spot left. Buff state controls it's own destiny. Win 2 and they are in. 5 days till the final call.

Go BENGALS!
Go BRADLEY!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2016, 02:15:41 AM
Quote from: spwood on February 13, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Terrible, selfish play by Cardinal player Jonathan Patron to get tossed from the game.  He threw the ball at the official after a foul call and deserved the ejection.  Oswego has gone on a 14-4 run since to make a one point game an 11 point game with 9:03 to go.

edit:  Now it's a 25-9 run...

He didn't throw the ball at the official he passed it to him rather firmly. Jon wasn't happy as that official had called him for 3 rather cheap fouls that were all highly questionable. He called 2 fouls on him early in the first half about 50 seconds apart limiting Jon's 1st half court time to 3 minutes. Then he calls another cheap foul on him and that's what precipitated the technical. Jon was getting banged pretty good inside with no calls on his end, so naturally he was upset at getting his 3rd foul from this same ref. Normally most refs would call a technical but I can't remember the last time time I've seen a ref eject someone from a game for being unhappy over a call and getting a little pissed off. This ref had Jon in his crosshairs from the moment the game started as he was an official at a game in Plattsburgh a few weeks ago and had words with the Coach concerning Jon, at that time. This ref was out to lunch the entire game and made a number of poor calls against both teams. He is without a doubt, the worst referee that has officiated games in Plattsburgh in the 40 plus years I've watched games in Memorial Hall. If we never see him again it will be too soon.

Having said that I don't think the 3 best refs in the world would have made a difference in the game tonight as Oswego State, and particularly Brian Sortino, were firing on all cylinders. When you nail 18 three pointers in a game and shoot better than 56% from downtown, you are usually going to win. Hats off to Oswego.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 14, 2016, 08:52:01 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 14, 2016, 02:15:41 AM
Quote from: spwood on February 13, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
Terrible, selfish play by Cardinal player Jonathan Patron to get tossed from the game.  He threw the ball at the official after a foul call and deserved the ejection.  Oswego has gone on a 14-4 run since to make a one point game an 11 point game with 9:03 to go.

edit:  Now it's a 25-9 run...

He didn't throw the ball at the official he passed it to him rather firmly. Jon wasn't happy as that official had called him for 3 rather cheap fouls that were all highly questionable. He called 2 fouls on him early in the first half about 50 seconds apart limiting Jon's 1st half court time to 3 minutes. Then he calls another cheap foul on him and that's what precipitated the technical. Jon was getting banged pretty good inside with no calls on his end, so naturally he was upset at getting his 3rd foul from this same ref. Normally most refs would call a technical but I can't remember the last time time I've seen a ref eject someone from a game for being unhappy over a call and getting a little pissed off. This ref had Jon in his crosshairs from the moment the game started as he was an official at a game in Plattsburgh a few weeks ago and had words with the Coach concerning Jon, at that time. This ref was out to lunch the entire game and made a number of poor calls against both teams. He is without a doubt, the worst referee that has officiated games in Plattsburgh in the 40 plus years I've watched games in Memorial Hall. If we never see him again it will be too soon.

Having said that I don't think the 3 best refs in the world would have made a difference in the game tonight as Oswego State, and particularly Brian Sortino, were firing on all cylinders. When you nail 18 three pointers in a game and shoot better than 56% from downtown, you are usually going to win. Hats off to Oswego.       

He "passed it to him rather firmly"?  That's your defense?  I watched the game and while the officiating was less than ideal, players passing the ball that "firmly" at the official should be at least a technical every single time.  I am a Card alum, but the glasses aren't completely rose colored.  It was a one point game at the moment that happened and became a blowout afterwards.

Sorry, to me that play is inexcusable.  That said, there hasn't been any discipline issues with this team all year, so I would chalk this up as a bad night and move on to bigger and better things.  Maybe, just maybe, we'll get another shot at the Lakers...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 14, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
Pg--The Scooterman has been on a Doo Wop cruise with Rocky and the Rollers--great time--hung out with Tommy Marra and the Crests, The  Loving Spoonful, The Tokens, Gary US Bonds, The Chiffons and Freddy Boom Boom Cannon!!! Just got back to the mainport and spoke with Coach Dunne. The Eagles are for real!! Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 14, 2016, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 14, 2016, 03:03:30 PM
Pg--The Scooterman has been on a Doo Wop cruise with Rocky and the Rollers--great time--hung out with Tommy Marra and the Crests, The  Loving Spoonful, The Tokens, Gary US Bonds, The Chiffons and Freddy Boom Boom Cannon!!! Just got back to the mainport and spoke with Coach Dunne. The Eagles are for real!! Go Eagles!!!

Was that English?  :D ;)

Glad to have you back!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2016, 04:28:00 PM
Weekend Round Up   

Plattsburgh State 99 Cortland State 78

I had the Cardinals winning this one 86-78. The Red Dragons did their part but the Cardinals had the century mark in mind.They had their foot on the accelerator from the opening tip and Cortland was just along for the ride.

Plattsburgh's Ed Correa got things started for the Cardinals as he opened the scoring with a jumper and Magic Grigg followed that with an offensive rebound and putback on the next trip down the floor. Plattsburgh scored 2 more times on a jumper by Xavier Thomas plus a drive and layin by Zack Coleman. Just like that it was 8-0 and the tone was set for the entire game. Not even the loss of Plattsburgh's leading scorer Kyle Richardson, who was hit with 2 quick fouls and had to take a seat on the bench for the rest of the half, could slow the Cardinals down. Richardson only played 5 minutes in the 1st period but Jon Patron came in for him and scored 12 points with 4 rebounds in the final 15 minutes of the half.

Plattsburgh opened up a double digit lead at 15-5 with 14:15 still left in the half. They increased their lead to 37-21 for the biggest advantage of the period but Cortland managed to close the gap to 46-38 with 22 seconds left. Eli Bryant then dribbled the clock down and did what he's done a number of times this year...burying a 3 pointer as the half ends for a 49-38 Plattsburgh lead.

The Red Dragons stayed with the Cardinals through the early part of the 2nd half as the teams traded baskets. Plattsburgh slowly began to stretch their lead, fueled by the play of the X-Man, Xavier Thomas, and Kyle Richardson. Both players scored 10 points through the first 11 minutes of the period, which were highlighted by a pair of monster dunks by Thomas to add to his total of year long crowd pleasers. First he jammed home a mighty tomahawk dunk and then off a nice lob pass from Ed Correa he slammed down another one. Richardson also added a dunk shortly after on a fast break at the 10 minute mark and another layup by Richardson seconds later gave the Cardinals a 79-59 lead with 9:11 left to play.The lead grew to 26 points and Plattsburgh brought in the reserves with 4 to 5 minutes left. A 3 pointer by Brandon Johnson gave the home team their largest lead of the night at 95-68 with 4:12 on the clock, as the Cardinals claimed their 13th conference win.

Five Plattsburgh players hit double figures led by Jon Patrons double-double of 21 points and 10 rebounds, both game highs. Ed Correa had 19 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals. Xavier Thomas had 16 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. Thomas also had a great defensive game limiting Cortland's leading scorer, Blair Estarfaa to only 10 points. 

Kyle Richardson had 12 second half points to finish with 14 points, 8 rebounds, 2 assists, a block and a steal.
Eli Bryant had 10 points, 4 assists and 2 rebounds.

Cortland got 21 points from TJ Hefele who tied for game honors with Patron. Hefele went 5 for 10 from long distance, had 4 rebounds 2 assists and a steal. Blair Estarfaa had 10 points and 3 assists, while Michael Kelly came off the bench to also drop in 10 points.

Cardinals shot a sizzling 37x63 from the field (58.7%), 7x24 from deep (29.2%) and 18x23 from the line (78.3%)

Cortland was 29x71 (40.8%) from the field, 10x31 from long range (32.3%) and 10x17 from the stripe (58.8%)

Plattsburgh had 46 rebounds to 29 for Cortland but the Cards had 14 turnovers to only 9 for the Dragons. The Cardinals had 23 assists for the game.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 15, 2016, 02:47:37 PM
Looks like a slight "bump in the road" for the Cards...  there is nothing worse than a referee who "makes the game about he or she (notice how politically correct I'm being?) rather than the players"..... sometimes a poor ref is the biggest grandstander of all??!!  Wasn't there so I can't comment for sure but when it comes to d3 hoops there is NOBODY I trust more than the Magicman!!  End of story!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 15, 2016, 10:36:07 PM
Quote from: with age came? on February 15, 2016, 02:47:37 PM
Looks like a slight "bump in the road" for the Cards...  there is nothing worse than a referee who "makes the game about he or she (notice how politically correct I'm being?) rather than the players"..... sometimes a poor ref is the biggest grandstander of all??!!  Wasn't there so I can't comment for sure but when it comes to d3 hoops there is NOBODY I trust more than the Magicman!!  End of story!! ;)

Oowwweeeee. That's quite the compliment their With Age. I can see magicman blushing as we speak. I'm gonna have to disagree with you. When it comes to trustorthy folks from the north country, I'm gonna have to go with MRS.  Magicman over magicman. She told me about the turtle and the pitchfork. Magicman has yet to reveal what that's all about! 

On a side note..... I'm betting that for all the games All-time and I have agreed on this year, this coming Satruday wont be 1 of the days/games. :o Love the SUNYAC

Go BENGALS
GO BRADLEY
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2016, 11:45:02 PM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll has been released and Plattsburgh State is ranked #23. The Cardinals with a 1-1 week, after losing to a red hot Oswego State over the weekend, fell one spot from last week's #22 placement. They had their point total decrease by over 50% though, as it went from 130 points down to 60.

Lancaster Bible remained in the #15 spot but did have their point total increase from 239 to 284.

NYU and Rochester both received 43 points in the Others Receiving Votes category which tied them for 26th place. Rochester is tied with Emory for 1st place in the UAA conference with a 9-2 record, 2 games in front of NYU. Emory which was #24 last week fell to #28 this week after going 1-1 over the weekend. Both Rochester and Emory have the same identical schedule left, as they play Carnegie Mellon and Case Western Reserve this weekend, then end up playing each other on 2-27. There is a very good chance that game on the 27th will decide the automatic bid to the NCAA's since there is no conference tournament in the UAA.

No other team in the East Region received any points.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2016, 11:56:11 PM
The SUNYAC has announced the Player of the Week award for the week ending February 14th is Brian Sortino from Oswego State.

No surprises here as I named him the Player of the Week on Saturday evening about 6:05 PM when he was draining his 8th three pointer of the game against Plattsburgh to put the Lakers up 75-63 with just under 7 minutes left to play. His 38 points against the league leaders was all he needed to earn the weekly honor in my book, but he had 2 other pretty good games as well to lead the Lakers to a 3-0 week. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

Brian Sortino, Oswego

Sortino was Oswego's key offensive factor this week as the Lakers went 3-0 against SUNYAC opponents. The junior averaged 24.3 points between the three games, scoring 73 points in total. On Saturday, in the victory over No. 22 Plattsburgh, Sortino scored a career-high 38 points. From beyond the arc, Sortino shot .524 (11-for-21) and from the field .436 (24-for-55). Over the course of the three games, the Fariport, N.Y. native not only shot the ball well but also played the role of distributor. He dished out 16 assists compared to only four turnovers and tied a season-high seven assists against Plattsburgh.

Congratulations to Brian for the weekly honor and for the display he put on in Memorial Hall on Saturday. I would have enjoyed it more if it was in a losing cause, but it certainly was as good a performance as I've witnessed all year. 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 04:54:00 AM
Weekend Round Up

Oswego State 90 Plattsburgh State74

Back on November 2nd I predicted that Oswego State was going to come in 1st place in the conference. And that was before I knew that they had a 6'10" transfer headed their way. They had a lot of talent returning from last year's SUNYAC  Champs and I thought they were the favorites. Brockport was my choice for the team to challenge them. I figured my Cardinals would be in the upper ranks of the YAC and would make the playoffs but knowing we graduated 5 starters, plus 2 other players didn't leave me with much hope of winning the conference.

Fast forward 3+ months and the Cardinals are on the verge of winning the top seed in the YAC. Brockport is right there in 2nd place, tied with Geneseo and the Lakers are a half game behind that pair. So the Cardinals have been a pleasant surprise. Their 3 seniors, Kyle Richardson, Ed Correa, and Xavier Thomas, moved into the starting rotation, and have been as good or better than anyone else's top 3. The emergence of freshman Jon Patron and sophomore transfer Eli Bryant has given Plattsburgh 5 double figure scorers and been a big reason for the success of the team. Several other freshman recruits have provided solid minutes off the bench and the Cardinals aren't rebuilding but appear to have reloaded. 

The Lakers were slow to get out the gate once conference play rolled around. They did fine in the non-conference portion of their schedule going 7-0 but got off to a horrendous start in the YAC going 1-4 in their first 5 games. And all 4 of those losses were by double digits. I was shaking my head wondering where the Laker team, that I watched win a SUYAC  title last February, had disappeared to. I'm still not sure where they went, but I sure know that they are back. Since that 1-4 start they have went 9-2 and both losses were down to the wire finishes. Their game was on display this past Saturday in Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall and it was downright scary.

The Lakers grabbed an early 10-4 lead, then stretched it to 13-6 and already their 3 point shooting was quickly featured, as 3 different players hit from long distance. I had a bad feeling already and the game was only 6 minutes old. The bad feeling got worse when the Cards' Jon Patron, who came in and hit 2 quick baskets, was also whistled for 2 quick fouls, and back to the bench he went for the rest of the half. His total playing time was 2 minutes, 44 seconds  and one of Plattsburgh's biggest threats was negated by some questionable calls. The Lakers got another pair of 3 pointers from Dustin Pond and Demetrius Mitchell to give them their biggest lead of the first half at 29-17 with 8:43 to play. The Cardinals were still down 11 points after Brian Sortino hit yet another 3 pointer with 3 minutes remaining. It was the Lakers 8th triple in the period in only 15 attempts.

Plattsburgh's Xavier Thomas pumped up the crowd with another one his acrobatic dunks and Isaiah Johnson hit a short jumper to cut the lead to 7 points. The Lakers' Alex Rawa hit his 4th basket of the half with 17 seconds left but Eli Bryant once again calmly dribbled the clock down to 3 seconds and fired up a jumper to make it 38-31 at the break. Rawa led all scorers with 11 points and Sortino had 10. Bryant had 10 points for the Cardinals.

Plattsburgh outscored Oswego 7-2 in the first few minutes of the 2nd period to get within a deuce of the Lakers at 40-38, but 5 straight Oswego points made it a 3 possession game once again. The lead would fluctuate between 3 and 7 points until the Cardinals down by 7 points got a jumper by Patron, a layup by Kyle Richardson and a 3 pointer by Ed Correa to tie the game at 48 with 14:52 left to play. Sortino scored inside, Patron followed suit and then Sortino buried a 3 pointer. Keith Tyson followed with a layup to boost the Laker lead back to 5 points. Correa scored again on a short jumper and after Oswego misfired Jon Patron scored inside to make it 55-54 with 12:15 remaining. After the teams exchanged possessions with neither team scoring, a foul was called on Patron that most of the Plattsburgh faithful were trying to figure out. When Patron passed the ball back to the ref rather firmly the ref called a technical foul, which was to be expected. What wasn't expected was Patron's ejection from the game for his behavior. Usually the technical is punishment enough for a player who is frustrated by the officiating and says or does something he regrets. I can't remember the last time I saw a player ejected from a game for any reason much less for what Patron did. As I mentioned earlier, this official had it in for Patron before the game even started, which was a carryover from a previous game he reffed in the 'Burgh.   

Oswego got 4 points off the technical call and the teams traded trips to the line which made the score 60-58 with just under 11 minutes left. That was as close as the Cardinals would ever be. Once again the 3 pointer became the Lakers' primary weapon. Sortino drained one, then it was Alex Rawa's turn. Keith Tyson got back into the act with another triple and then Sortino hit 2 more, 45 seconds apart. Plattsburgh got a 3 pointer from Richardson and a layup inside from him as well, but the Cards had been outscored 15-5 and the lead was now a 12 point 75-63 margin, with 7 minutes left in the game. Oswego kept piling on, as Tyson hit a jumper and Demetrius Mitchell buried another one from long range and the run was now 20-5 as the lead grew to 17 points. This one was over and it was just a matter of what the final score would be.

I had predicted an 86-77 Plattsburgh win, which is 163 total points. The final was 90-74 which is 164 total points. I was close on that at least. Oswego made 18 three pointers in the game against the 4th best three point defense in the country. Or at least it was the 4th best defense in the country at the time. That's something that not even the Pope could have predicted. That was the Lakers best 3 point effort of the season with their best percentage (56.3%) of the season. All you can do is sit, watch and marvel when a team is that hot. Many of those made threes came with Cardinal players in their faces, but it didn't matter. Jerry Reed said it best..."When You're Hot, You're Hot" and the Lakers were on fire. I haven't seen a display like that since Cortland hit 15 of 22 from long range almost 5 years ago to the day, on February 12th, 2011. They beat us that night 83-69.

Brian Sortino had a career high 38 points on 13x25 shooting. He was 8x12 from long distance and 4x6 from the line. He also had a season high 7 assists and grabbed 3 rebounds. Alex Rawa had 17 points on 6x9 shooting with 5x7 from long distance. He added 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals. Both Keith Tyson and mark Candelario had 10 points. Candelario had a team high 7 rebounds, as did Mykelle Krecko.

Plattsburgh also had 4 players in double figures led by Kyle Richardson with 24 pts (8x15 fg, 4x7 3's, 4x4 ft)  and a team high 8 rebounds. Richardson also had 3 blocks and 2 steals. Ed Correa had 18 points (5x14 fg. 2x8 3's 6x6 ft) 3 rebounds and 2 assists. Eli Bryant had 12 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals. Jon Patron had 10 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 12 minutes of court time. Xavier Thomas tied Richardson with 8 rebounds and had 6 points.

The Lakers shot 33x65 from the field (50.8%), 18x32 from long range (56.3%) and 6x9 from the line (66.7%).  Plattsburgh was 26x64 (40.6%) from the field, 6x20 from downtown (30.0%) and 16x17 from the line (94.1%).

Rebounds and turnovers were fairly even with Oswego grabbing 35 boards to 37 for Plattsburgh. The Lakers had 10 turnovers and the Cards had 11.

Oswego improves to 17-6 and remains tied with Cortland for 4th place in the YAC with a 10-6 record. They will host Geneseo this evening and then travel to Cortland for a game that may determine who gets a home playoff game and who goes on the road. Based on what I saw this weekend I'm thinking that Oswego will be challenging Brockport for that 2nd seed. I can see them winding up 12-6 and perhaps a tiebreaker coming into play to determine who gets the bye.

Plattsburgh is now 18-4 overall and still needs a win to clinch the regular season crown.  Losses by Geneseo and Brockport will also make them a winner. At 13-2 in the YAC and last place Potsdam coming to the 'Burgh today, I think the top seed will be theirs right around 9:15  tonight.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 07:32:04 AM
More Weekend Games

Friday Night

Geneseo State 77 New Paltz State 63

I had the Knights winning this one by an 80-69 final score. I wasn't too far off the final score as Geneseo finally pulled away from the pesky Hawks with about 5 minutes remaining in the game. New Paltz fought back from a 12 point, 47-35 deficit, to tie the game at 52 on a Dylan Balducci 3 pointer. The Knights kicked into high gear though and a 13-0 run opened up the daylight they would need to finish off the home team.

The usual suspects John Decker with 22 points and Justin Ringen with 21 points led the way for the Knights. Jordi Menkhorst and Kevin Zabransky both dropped in 10 points.

Dylan Balducci had 18 points  and RJ Rosa had 16 for the Hawks.

Fredonia State 91   Buffalo State 88

The Bengals gave up a double digit lead early and then fell behind by double digit themselves early in the 2nd half and late in the game. They overcame the first 10 point deficit and actually took a 59-58 lead on a Jordan Chateau layup with 13 minutes left to play. The Blue Devils Brandon Hodge hit a 3 pointer a minute later and Fredonia went back in front to stay. Down by 10 points again at 83-73 with 4:37 remaining the Bengals made a furious rally to tie the game and force overtime. They got as close as 87-85 and had the ball with 18 seconds left and a chance to tie or take the lead but a charging call gave the ball to Fredonia and this one was history.
I had the Bengals winning by an 83-75 final score but the Blue Devils threw me a curve and I swung and missed.

Fredonia's Ian Helps was the game's leading scorer with 23 points. He also led his team with 7 rebounds
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Brandon Hodge was absolutely perfect as he was 8x8 from the field, 2x2 from long distance, and 2x2 from the line for a smooth 20 points off the bench, in just 17 minutes of playing time. Not often you get to say you were perfect. Good job Brandon. 

Kareem Brown had 18 points and 6 boards, while Jared Fish had 10 points and 5 rebounds.

Kevin Marmolejos led the Bengals with 21 points. Mike Henry had a double-double of 19 points and 12 rebounds.

Nico McLean also had a double-double of 16 points, 11 rebounds, 8 assists and 6 steals. Lovell Smith had 18 points and Jordan Chateau had 9 points and 8 rebounds.


Brockport State 65  Oneonta State 56

I had the Golden Eagles winning this one by a 77-74 final score. Neither team came close to my figures but I did get the winner right. Oneonta held the lead for the first 8 minutes of this game but then Brockport went on a 19-2 run and went in front by a 33-17 score, en route to a 35-22 halftime bulge. During that 10 minute stretch that the Golden Eagles were gaining the upper hand, the Red Dragons had 7 turnovers and went 1 for 9 from the field when they did get a chance to fire one up.

Oneonta got back into this game as they chipped away at the deficit and outscored Brockport by a 20-6 margin over the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half. Down 43-34 the Dragons got 8 straight points on a Mikey McElroy  three pointer, a Jack Kolosky layup and another triple from Grant Massaroni. The Golden Eagles were still ahead but the score was 43-42 with 12:21 left to play.

That would be as close as Oneonta would get though as Brockport refused to surrender the lead. Once more at 47-45 they were a single possession away from a lead but Port got a jumper from Levi Pace and a 3 pointer from Clifton Lyerly and the Red Dragons were never closer than 4 points the rest of the way.

Hamed Shamseldin scored 6 of the final 10 points for Brockport and it was good to see him back from an injury that had kept him out of 3 complete games and large parts of 2 others. He came off the bench to play 19 minutes and ended up leading a balanced Golden Eagle effort with 11 points. He went 4x5 in his return missing only 1 of 2 three pointers he attempted. He also had 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Clifton Lyerly and Levi Pace both had 9 points. Matthew Smith and Devonn Gavin each had 8 points. Marcus Blythers led the team with 7 rebounds and Smith had 6 boards.

Oneonta got 13 points and 7 boards from Mikey McElroy to lead the team. Lawrence Coleman had 10 points with 9 rebounds while Jackson Zuvic had 10 points and 4 assists. Jack Dignan had 6 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 points, a steal and a block.

Brockport remains tied with Geneseo in 2nd place while the Red Dragons may have to play Buffalo State on the final day of the season for the 6th and final playoff spot. If form holds up Oneonta should beat Fredonia, and Buffalo State should beat New Paltz on Friday night. That would set up a winner takes the prize, Saturday afternoon matinee for the 6th seed. Fredonia may have something to say about that though, and New Paltz has already put a damper on the Bengals once, so we know that it can happen.

Oswego State 80 Potsdam State 69

That score sounds familiar and that's because my crystal ball had that score floating around in the murkiness and I thought it was the Geneseo-New Paltz game that was going to end up 80-69. I said this game was going to be 79-64. Instead the Geneseo-New Paltz game was 77-63  I see now what happened. I had the scores correct but made a mistake in transferring them to my post. I actually would have had 1 perfect game and 1 game that was off by 3 points. :D Still I wasn't far off and I did say that the Bears would beat that 18 point spread they were supposed to lose by. The Bears actually played the Lakers tighter than the Cardinals did the next day. Who'da thunk it.

Looks like the Lakers ran into the same problem the Cardinals did when they traveled over to Potsdam, losing at the half, but at least they weren't down by double digits at the break. Still it was a moral victory for the lowly Bears to be ahead of the Lakers that far into the game. It was a back and forth first half with the largest lead on either side was a 5 point advantage by the Lakers on several occasions. The Bears could only muster a 2 point lead but held the upper hand by a 38-37 score going into the locker rooms.

Things would change quickly though once the 2nd half started as the Lakers opened with a 12-2 run that had them in front 49-40 with 3 minutes gone by. That was the comfort zone that Oswego needed and the Bears, after Mitch Lamerson hit a 3 pointer to make it 51-45, could never get closer than 7 points the rest of the way,  as the lead hovered between 9 and 14 points for the most part.

Kyle Covley was the high scorer in the contest as he had 23 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.

Alex Rawa had 16 points, 6 rebounds and 2 assists.

Brian Sortino had 15 points, 3 assist and 2 steals. I see he was human and went 0 for 3 from long distance against the Bears. Where was that the next day against my Cards. I guess the law of averages wasn't in my favor after his ofer in Potsdam.

Keith Tyson had a double-double of 13 points with 10 rebounds, while Dustin Pond had 10 points, 4 boards, 2 assists and a block.

Mykelle Krecko was the leading rebounder in the game with 11 boards. 3 assists 2 points and a block.

The Bears got 18 points from Josh Blagrove who also had 2 assists and 2 rebounds. Nosa Onabor just missed a double-double with 13 points and 9 rebounds.

Joe Estramonte had 12 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Oswego pulled off the rare North Country Double which has been easier in the past few years since the Bears have fallen on hard times. Still no easy feat.         
                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 11:45:07 AM
Breaking News!  http://gobrockport.com/news/2016/2/16/MBB_0216163830.aspx

Brockport vs. Cortland both men and women rescheduled for tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 12:02:50 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 11:45:07 AM
Breaking News!  http://gobrockport.com/news/2016/2/16/MBB_0216163830.aspx

Brockport vs. Cortland both men and women rescheduled for tomorrow.

Coach Curle just called to tell me that The Potsdam State at Plattsburgh State game was also cancelled tonight. Both men and women have also been re-scheduled for tomorrow.  Not even up on the Plattsburgh website yet.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 12:07:52 PM
Geneseo State at Oswego State is supposed to go off as scheduled tonight. The only game in town.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 16, 2016, 12:10:27 PM
BengalsRule

The way The Oneonta Red Dragons are playing, we just might agree with each other on Saturday.
We have beaten Buffalo State the past couple of years at Dewar arena the last weekend of the regular season.
This year the tides have turned and we need to win up in Buffalo which will be no small task.

Can't quite explain what happened to them. They came out of the blocks with such Swagger in the beginning of the season and then things went South from there.
When I watch them play lately, they don't look anything like the team that beat up some of the best teams in the conference.
They are playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

I know this group had such high expectations for themselves, ADDITION BY SUBTRACTION with the graduation of Zach Mager and Frank Kelly. They need to step up BIG this weekend and it done like the teams before them.

It should be a CRAZY game on Saturday. Can't wait.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 02:33:41 PM
More Weekend Round Up

Saturday Games

Brockport State 84  New Paltz 70

The Golden Eagles almost came up with the 86 points I said they'd score and the Hawks added a few more than the 62 I thought they would put up. Close enough to make me smile though.

The Hawks held the lead in this one for the first 9 minutes but Port finally caught them at 18-18 on a Clifton Lyerly layup and then went ahead for the first time on a Pat Modzelewski bucket with 9:48 left in the half. 3 lead changes and a tie would occur before the Eagles would take a 3 possession lead on 4 straight points by Matthew Smith to end the period 43-36.

The Hawks came out of the break and scored the first 7 points to tie the game up on a steal and dunk by Brandon Guest. Clifton Lyerly then reeled off 7  straight points for Brockport on the strength of 2 layups and 2 trips to the line. The Golden Eagles managed to stay in front by several possessions over the next 5 minutes until the Hawks cut the deficit to 60-57 on a tip in by Guest and a 3 pointer by Dylan Balducci with 10:30 left to play. Once again Brockport responded and opened up a 9 point margin that grew to 15 by the 4 minute mark. The lead reached 19 points and the Hawks scored the final 5 points to make the final margin of 84-70.

Clifton Lyerly was the big gun for the Eagles as he captured scoring and rebounding honors with his double-double of 24 points and 13 rebounds. He was 9x15 from the field and 6x11 from the line.

Devonn Gavin had 15 points on 7x10 shooting with a 3 pointer in there. He also had 3 rebounds 2 assists and 2 steals.

Levi Pace had 14 points, 3 rebounds, a steal and a block while Matthew Smith added 10 points.

Dylan Balducci led New Paltz with 14 points. Brandon Guest had 12 points and a team high 5 rebounds.

Keegan Donovan had 10 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. RJ Rosa had 9 points, 6 assists and 2 steals. Alex Perlman had 8 points, tied Guest with 5 rebounds, had 3 assists and a steal.

Brockport is now 15-7 overall and 10-5 in the conference. If the Golden Eagles win their 3 remaining games they will clinch the 2nd seed in the conference tournament. If they win a semifinal game and lose in the championship game they would end up with a 19-8 record. Last year Plattsburgh State lost in the championship game of the YAC tournament and ended up 19-8. They were the top seed in the East that didn't have an automatic bid and they sat through 19 selection rounds and were never chosen for a Pool C bid. No team from the East Region got a Pool C bid last year. Yet 3 years ago Plattsburgh ended up with that same identical 19-8 record and not only were selected but they hosted a first round game. So you just never know. Brockport does have the best SOS in the East Region so that may help if they are in that situation. If they lose one of their 3 remaining regular season games they could end up 18-9 or possibly 19-9 if they have to play a quarterfinal game. I don't think they have a prayer of getting a Pool C bid with 9 losses.



Geneseo State 79 Oneonta State 74

I almost nailed this one as I had Geneseo winning by a 79-76 final score. I'll be speaking to Mr. McElroy if they should make a return visit to Plattsburgh for the YAC  tournament. That offensive rebound he grabbed with 3 seconds left, should have been a putback for him instead of a pass to Dignan for a 3 point attempt. ::) Would have given me perfection. After getting roughed up by Oswego that afternoon it might have put a smile back on my face.

The Red Dragons looked like they were going to take care of business in this one after the initial "feeling each other out", phase transpired. Trailing the Knights by a score of 8-7 five minutes into the game the Dragons put together a 15-2 run to go up by a 22-10 margin over the next  5 minutes. Three trifectas in a row, 2 by Ian Schupp and 1 by Jack Dignan caused most of the damage but...you live by three, you can also die by that same action and the Red Dragons went to the well a few times too many. They hoisted up long range bombs in their next 3 trips down the floor and came up empty each time allowing Geneseo to narrow the gap to a two possession lead. Jackson Zuvic still wasn't convinced that 3 point bombs were bad and he drained a pair of them on Oneonta's next 2 offensive sets, both times assisted by Dignan. Seth Thomsen then scored on a layup and a free throw making the score 33-20 and once again the Red Dragons seemed to be in control with 4 minutes left in the half. The Knights outscored Oneonta 10-5 to end the half on the short end of a 38-30 score, but at least they had it back to single digits.

The teams jockeyed back and forth for the early part of the 2nd period and after the Knights had pulled to within 3 points at 42-39, Thomsen hit a 3, Lawrence Coleman jammed one home and the lead was still 8 at 47-39, with 15 minutes left to play. The Knights weren't going away however, and a 12-2 run capped by 5 points from Justin Ringen on a drive, followed by a 3 pointer, gave the Knights their first lead since the game was 5 minutes old. The teams would trade 3 pointers, first Dignan for Oneonta, then Jon Cohen for the Knights. Miky McElroy got an offensive rebound and scored inside to tie it up, but Cohen was quick to drain another 3 and the Knights went back in front. For the next 9 minutes the Knights would keep the lead as it would float between 1 to 6 points  and every time the Red Dragons closed to within a point or 2 Geneseo had an answer. Finally 8 straight points by Coleman on a pair of 3's and a pair of free throws brought the home team even with the Knights at 69-69 with 2:19 left in the game. The Knights went to the line and made 2 free throws and Oneonta went foul shooting as well but only hit 1 of 2. Ringen got the rebound off the missed free throw and buried another 3 pointer to make it a 2 possession game. McElroy hit a pair from the line on Oneonta's next trip down, but the Knights responded with another 3 pointer and the lead was 77-72 with 30 seconds left. McElroy was fouled and made them both to cut the lead to 3 but Ringen went to the line on the other end and made both his free throws to close out the Red Dragons.

Justin Ringen Led all scorers with 26 points (9x15 fg, 4x7 3's, 4x4 ft), 5 rebounds, 1 asssist and a steal.
Kevin Crockett had 13 points. John Decker had 12 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal. Connor Keenan had 10 points, 2 assists and a steal. Ringen's 5 rebounds led the Knights who got killed on the boards 43 to 26. I guess when you shoot 25x49 (51%) from  the field and 10 x25 from long distance (40%) you don't need rebounding. 19x23 from the line (82.6%) is also not to shabby.

Oneonta got another double-double from Mikey McElroy of 19 points, a game high 10 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. Lawrence Coleman also had 19 points with 6 rebounds. Seth Thomsen added 10 points and 4 rebounds. Jack Dignan had 6 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds and a block. Jackson Zuvic had 9 points with 3 rebounds, while Kareem Williams added 5 points, 5 boards and 2 blocks.

The Red Dragons with 2 games left control their own destiny. Win them both and they will make the playoffs. Anything less and they could be watching the Bengals or Blue Devils take a spot that sure looked like it had Oneonta's name written all over it, a short time ago.

Geneseo hoping to duke it out with Brockport for the 2nd seed but Oswego State is on a roll and may have something to say about that. Tonight is a big game between the Lakers and the Knights.



Cortland State 87  Potsdam State 71

Another game that came fairly close to my  pregame prediction. I had the Red Dragons winning by an 85-68 final score. Both teams scored a basket more than I gave them credit for. It was that jumper that Blair Estaefaa scored for Cortland with 4 minutes left when he shot, missed, got his own rebound, shot again and made it, that screwed me up on the Red Dragon's side. And Joe Estramonte made 2 three pointers at the end of the game for the Bears final 6 points, to cut a 22 point lead down to 16. One would have been sufficient, Joe.   

After getting roughed up by Plattsburgh on Friday night, these Red Dragons weren't about to let the Bears think they might have a chance for the upset. The two teams went back and forth for about the first 10 minutes when there were 11 lead changes and several ties. Knotted up at 18-18 the Red Dragons used a 12 to 3 run to put some daylight between the Bears and themselves. Potsdam's Joe Estramonte kept the Bears within shouting distance as he scored 11 straight points for his team on a pair of 3 pointers to keep the lead at 6 points for a while. When Cortland moved out to an 11 point lead it was Estramonte again with a layup to cut it back to single digits. Once more Cortland went in front by 11 and Estramonte made a 3 pointer the hard way with a drive and free throw to make it 40-32 in favor of Cortland with 1:50 left in the period. The Red Dragons scored on their final 2 possessions of the half and the Bears quit going to Estramonte. They came up empty both times they had the ball and Cortland was now in front by 45-32 score.

Needing to make something coming out of the break, the Bears instead, found the going tough, and it was Cortland who scored the first 5 points of the period. The Bears were now down 18 points and they never recovered from that deficit. Cortland's lead was never less than 13 points the rest of the way and grew to be as much as 24, with 4:40 left in the game.

Blair Estarfaa led Cortland with 17 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists. He was 7x13 from the field and 3x6 from downtown. JP Reagan had 14 points (6x10 fg, 2x6 3's), 5 rebounds, 4 assists and a block. TJ Hefele had 14 points (5x10 fg, 3x7 3's, 1x1 ft) 4 assists, 4 steals, and 3 rebounds. Michael Kelly and Carrell Joseph both scored 11 points.

Potsdam was led by Joe Estramonte who captured scoring honors for the game with 24 points. He was 9x18 from the field, 5x11 from deep, and 1x1 from the line. He also had 6 assists and 4 rebounds. Mitch Lamerson had 14 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assist. Both these guys are seniors and their playing days at Potsdam are just about over. It was nice to see that they both had good days on Senior Day. Tough to go through the past 2 years with so few wins but I'm sure they made friends that will last them a lifetime through their participation in D3 athletics. I know I did, as do all the student athletes who choose to play sports in college.

Nosa Onabor had 15 points going 5x8 from downtown and Serigne Kane had 13 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a block. Nate Wyatte led the team by grabbing 7 rebounds, with 5 points and 3 assists.

The Bears finish their schedule against the 3 top teams in the standings so their chances of another win don't look too good. Hopefully the young talent on the team will continue to improve and come back next year and will be hungry to take the next step to become winners.

Cortland, currently tied with Oswego for 4th place, has 2 games left and can finish as high as 2nd place or as low as 5th place. The game against Brockport scheduled for tonight and switched to Wednesday night will be huge for both teams.

If the Red Dragons win out and get the 2nd seed and lose in the conference championship they could end up with a 19-8 record but their SOS isn't very good (currently .489 as of last week's regional rankings). They could also end up with a 20-8 record if they win out but end up as the 3rd seed. They would then play an extra tournament game in the quarterfinal round. Still don't think they will get a Pool C bid. The Red Dragons will only go dancing if they win the YAC Championship.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
Definitely not expecting any gift from the committee, especially given Plattsburgh's experience. The only chance for anyone but Plattsburgh appears to be winning the tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 04:33:41 PM
Tuesday February 16th    Snowstorm Woes Cancel 2 Games Leaving Just 1 Game On Tap

Geneseo State at Oswego State  7:30 PM

The game between these 2 teams won't necessarily clear up anything involving seeds 2 through 5. If Oswego loses they won't have an opportunity to claim the 2 seed as they will fall to 10-7 and lose any tiebreaker with Geneseo. Geneseo can still lose this game and rally to claim the #2 seed if things go right on the weekend. The Knights are already gaining an advantage by playing their game today as scheduled. The other 3 teams taking part in the Western swing, Plattsburgh, Potsdam and Brockport by postponing today's game until tomorrow, will now have to play 3 games in 4 days while Geneseo gets that extra day of rest before the weekend. For the North Country teams, Plattsburgh in particular, this trip west has already started off on the wrong foot and it won't even start for 2 more days. ::)

Oswego will certainly have revenge in mind for tonight's game. Just 2 weeks ago they were a fingertip away from walking out of Alumni Fieldhouse with a hard earned W. In a game that featured 10 ties and 16 lead changes the Lakers came down to the final seconds trailing 78-77 after a pair of Geneseo free throws gave the host team the lead with 1:25 to play. Oswego then committed a turnover 14 seconds later but got the favor returned when the Knights turned it over with 41 seconds remaining. After a Laker timeout Brian Sortino drained a jumper to give the visitors a 1 point lead. After another Laker timeout the Knights came down and took a shot with 10 seconds left and Oswego had the rebound and then they didn't as it went out of bounds off of a Laker player.That would have probably meant a Laker win as the Knights would have had to foul. Now  with a fresh possession they inbounded the ball and Kevin Crockett made a layup as time was running out to win by an 80-79 final.

Tonight should be round 2 of another slugfest between two teams that love the three point line and aren't  particularly concerned who shoots from long distance and how many times they do so. The last game  had 6 players from each team taking shots from behind the arc. Between them they made 26 triples and attempted 59 shots from long distance. And just how many shots did they take from inside the 3 point line?...You guessed it 59. This was the game that when I wrote it up I commented on how many stats were identical. Rebounds, assists, turnovers, offensive boards, defensive boards, bench points all identical and a number of other stats very close. So take your pick or flip a coin to come up with a winner. Me, I'll consult my crystal ball.

The oddsmakers have made the home team a 3 point favorite in this one  and I can't go against that. Having watched Oswego play just a few days ago that memory is etched into my temporal lobe quite well. The Lakers are playing their best ball of the season right now and have won 9 of their last 11 games including 5 in a row.
Plus the Lakers have went 11-1 in the 12 games Mykelle Krecko has either started or played double digit minutes. The only loss being that heartbreaker in Geneseo. I can't buck that stat. Tonight the Lakers reverse that game and win by a 77-73 final score.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2016, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2016, 12:07:52 PM
Geneseo State at Oswego State is supposed to go off as scheduled tonight. The only game in town.

Id be surprised if that game isn't rescheduled also!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2016, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
Definitely not expecting any gift from the committee, especially given Plattsburgh's experience. The only chance for anyone but Plattsburgh appears to be winning the tournament.

Don't know pg04. Id be shocked if the SUNYAC is less than 2 bids (more likely 3) Plattsburgh can stop playing now and still get in. Gotta believe whomever makes it to the championship game has a shot. New regional rankings should be coming out today/tomorrow. 4 of top 6 should be SUNYAC!

Keep hope alive!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2016, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
Definitely not expecting any gift from the committee, especially given Plattsburgh's experience. The only chance for anyone but Plattsburgh appears to be winning the tournament.

Don't know pg04. Id be shocked if the SUNYAC is less than 2 bids (more likely 3) Plattsburgh can stop playing now and still get in. Gotta believe whomever makes it to the championship game has a shot. New regional rankings should be coming out today/tomorrow. 4 of top 6 should be SUNYAC!

Keep hope alive!! ;)

Just essentially going off of what happened to Plattsburgh. I think the chances for 2 lie with Plattsburgh not winning the conference. No teams were chosen from the East last year, so the rankings are basically just there.

As much as I would love it, overall I think the 7th loss is the death knell to all the SUNYAC teams for our "esteemed" committee  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2016, 04:43:40 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
Definitely not expecting any gift from the committee, especially given Plattsburgh's experience. The only chance for anyone but Plattsburgh appears to be winning the tournament.

Don't know pg04. Id be shocked if the SUNYAC is less than 2 bids (more likely 3) Plattsburgh can stop playing now and still get in. Gotta believe whomever makes it to the championship game has a shot. New regional rankings should be coming out today/tomorrow. 4 of top 6 should be SUNYAC!

Keep hope alive!! ;)

I wish it was as easy as you make it out to be Champ. Plattsburgh could still end up with 8 losses. Hopefully they won't but the "Plattsburgh can stop playing now and get in" just isn't true. We saw what 19-8 was good for last year. Not much. Granted it varies from year to year and the biggest factor, as it is every time the Pool C bids are selected, depends on how many conference leaders win their automatic bid. In regions like New England, the Great Lakes and the Central with lots of teams and conferences if there are a number of upsets in conference tournaments, where a 3rd or 4th seed walks off with the automatic bid then the number of Pool C bids normally going to 2nd place conference teams will be limited. This will affect every region but especially a region like the East with so few ranked teams. So right now it's hard to say who will get a bid and who won't. That speculation will be better suited once we know how many teams are getting automatic bids that really shouldn't be dancing. If those teams number more than a few here and there, then a number of teams on the bubble will find their bubble popped because so many good teams that got upset in their conference tournament will take those Pool C bids away from the bubble teams.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2016, 04:43:40 PM
New regional rankings should be coming out today/tomorrow. 4 of top 6 should be SUNYAC!

There is a possibility that Plattsburgh may not be the #1 team in the East when tomorrow's rankings come out. KnightSlappy's rankings has Rochester #1 and Plattsburgh #2. Brockport is #3, Geneseo is #4, NYU is #5 and Oswego is #6.

I'm hoping he's wrong and that the top 2 are reversed, but I knew Rochester might move up. They were 2-0 last week, while we were 1-1.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 16, 2016, 07:08:14 PM
Oswego over Geneseo tonight by double digits

Enjoy the game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 07:11:07 PM
Not SUNYAC but Lancaster Bible is such an interesting story. I mean, the way the east has been given very little love by committee, I believe now more than ever that they can't get in with a loss in their tournament. Having one loss and not getting in seems like it would be such a travesty but given the criteria it very well could happen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 07:40:31 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 07:11:07 PM
Not SUNYAC but Lancaster Bible is such an interesting story. I mean, the way the east has been given very little love by committee, I believe now more than ever that they can't get in with a loss in their tournament. Having one loss and not getting in seems like it would be such a travesty but given the criteria it very well could happen.

I know what you mean 24-1 and they stay home. Actually they won't because they have this other affiliation...the NCCAA..that they could go and play in their national tournament. I think they can still declare for that if they want to.  Last year they won a national championship in that tournament. The SOS of Lancaster Bible is the worst one in the entire East Region. Even worse than all the other members of their conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 08:03:08 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 16, 2016, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2016, 12:07:52 PM
Geneseo State at Oswego State is supposed to go off as scheduled tonight. The only game in town.

Id be surprised if that game isn't rescheduled also!

Well you must be surprised then. ;D  Oswego up 29-28 with 1:46 left in the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 08:08:41 PM
Halftime score Geneseo State 30 Oswego State 29

Justin Ringen with 10 points and Kevin Crockett with 7 for Geneseo

Keith Tyson with 8 points and Kyle Covely with 7 for Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 08:19:23 PM
I'm surprised Geneseo was able to get to Oswego the way it looked up there in the Rochester area (according to my social media).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 08:19:23 PM
I'm surprised Geneseo was able to get to Oswego the way it looked up there in the Rochester area (according to my social media).

When Coach Curle called me at noon today to tell me that the Cards game was cancelled he said the Geneseo-Oswego game was a go and would be the only one played, so he must have had good info that they were already there or were close to being there.

I'm surprised that the Plattsburgh game was cancelled. We only got a couple of inches of snow here overnight then a brief period of sleet this morning around 8 AM. By 9 AM it was raining and it rained all day long. The roads were bare. I know they got snow longer than we did over in the St Lawrence Valley where Potsdam is because the temperature was colder there and the snow didn't change over to rain as quickly as it did here if at all but it's only 90 miles and I think they would have outran the snow after 30 miles or so.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2016, 09:03:51 PM
Oswego State defeats Geneseo State by a final score of 75-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 16, 2016, 09:44:04 PM
I'm a bit worried about the 3 games in 4 nights that will now occur for 3 of the teams in the conference (Brockport, Potsdam, Plattsburgh). I wonder if the extra day will have any effect. Probably not too much but thinking out loud. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2016, 05:56:44 AM
Tuesdays Result

Oswego State 75  Geneseo State 67

Final score wasn't too far off from my projection of a 77-73 Oswego win. The Lakers could have scored at the end of the game but chose to pull it back out after they broke the Geneseo press.   

After a closely contested first half the Lakers took control of this game about midway through the 2nd period. Geneseo had a 30-29 lead at the break and they outscored the Lakers 7-2 to start the the final half. Oswego finally caught them with 14 minutes left in the game on an Alex Rawa 3 pointer that tied the score at 42. Back to back layups from Keith Tyson was followed with a layup by Demetrius Mitchell forcing a Geneseo time out. After both teams misfired and the Knights turned it over, Mitchell buried a three pointer to make it 51-42 and Oswego had their biggest lead of the game. The Lakers maintained a lead of 6 to 9 points for the next few minutes and then Mitchell struck again with another threeball to make it 60-49. Thirty seconds later Tyson snuck inside for another layup and the lead was 13. His 3 pointer a few minutes later gave the Lakers the largest lead of the night at 67-51 with 3:52 left in the game. Nine unanswered Geneseo points cut the lead to 67-60 but Brian Sortino buried a jumper and the Lakers closed this one out by hitting 6 straight free throws for the final score.

Keith Tyson was the Laker of the day as he led the team with 23 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. He was 10x12 from the field, 1x2 from deep and 2x2 from the line.

Demetrius Mitchell had 13 points and 4 rebounds. Alex Rawa had 12 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds.

Brian Sortino had 9 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds and a steal. Kyle Covely had 9 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists.  Mark Candelario led the team with 9 rebounds, 4 points, 2 assists and 2 blocks.

Geneseo got 18 points and 7 rebounds from Justin Ringen. John Decker had 12 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists. Kevin Crockett, Jon Cohen and Jack Eisenberg all scored 7 points with Eisenberg hauling down 6 rebounds as well.

Oswego shot 46.8% from the field (29x62), 32.0% from long range (8x25), and 64.3% from the line (9x14).
The Knights shot 45.3% from the field (24x53), 41.2% from beyond the arc (7x17), and 75% from the line (12x16)

Oswego outrebounded Geneseo by a 37 to 30 margin and the Lakers took excellent care of the ball with only 4 turnovers. Geneseo had a total of 10 turnovers.

The Lakers improve to 18-6 overall and they move into sole possession of 3rd place with an 11-6 conference record. Brockport, with a 10-5 record will need a win tonight against Cortland to stay in front of the Lakers. It could also turn out to be a key win if these two teams get into a tiebreaker battle. The Lakers with only a single game remaining on Friday at Cortland could improve their chances of a Pool C bid if they finish the regular season with a 19-6 record. A win and a loss, or 2 wins and a loss in the YAC playoffs would leave them at 20-7 or 21-7. It would place them squarely on the bubble and be dependent on the number of upsets taking place among the conference leaders across the D3 landscape.

Geneseo falls to 16-7 overall and their 10-6 conference record ties them for 4th place with Cortland. They do own the tiebreaker over the Red Dragons, however by virtue of their sweep of the season series. They will face the North Country pair of Potsdam on Friday evening and Plattsburgh State on Saturday afternoon.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2016, 01:44:58 PM
New Regional Rankings have been released.

Plattsburgh State hangs onto their #1 ranking.

#1 Plattsburgh State
#2 Rochester
#3 Geneseo State
#4 Brockport State
#5 Oswego State
#6 NYU

Oneonta State and St. John Fisher were replaced by Brockport State and NYU.

Brockport went 3-0 last week with a win over Oneonta and went from not being ranked (I'm guessing they were in the #7 spot last week) to sliding into the #4 spot.

Oswego was bumped down into the 5th spot by Brockport which surprises me a little because the Lakers went 3-0 last week and beat the #1 team in the rankings, Plattsburgh State, on the road. Oswego's win last night over #3 Geneseo should boost  them a bit higher next week if they can take care of business this weekend against Cortland.

NYU won their only game on last week on Friday but lost on Sunday to Rochester, a game that won't be factored in until next week.


Here's a link to the entire regional  rankings:
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3/regional-rankings-0
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 17, 2016, 02:16:24 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2016, 01:44:58 PM
New Regional Rankings have been released.

Plattsburgh State hangs onto their #1 ranking.

#1 Plattsburgh State
#2 Rochester
#3 Geneseo State
#4 Brockport State
#5 Oswego State
#6 NYU


Here's a link to the entire regional  rankings:
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d3/regional-rankings-0

As I think they should have.  This looks about right, save the Lancaster Bible question.  For the record, the schedule you play has to count for something.  I don't have a problem with them not appearing in the NCAA rankings...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 17, 2016, 04:06:13 PM
2 Games on Tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Brockport over Cortland by double digits

Plattsburgh all over Potsdam

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2016, 06:55:33 PM
Wednesday February 17th    Three games on tap 2 in the SUNYAC and  1 non-conference game


SUNY-Canton  at   Fredonia State      7:00 PM

Fredonia playing a late non-conference tilt with Canton. Odd time for that to take place. Canton an independent that is transitioning into Division III. The Kangaroos have beaten teams from the SUNYAC (Potsdam), from the Liberty League (Clarkson-twice), from the Empire 8 conference (Utica College, Houghton), from the NESCAC conference (Connecticut College) and from the NEAC conference (SUNYIT, Morrisville) among others. They are currently 18-3 and I think have a good chance of beating the Blue Devils on their home court. The oddsmakers apparently agree with me as they have made the Roos a 6 point road favorite. I hope Fredonia proves me and the oddsmakers wrong but I think Canton will win this one by an 82-73 final score.

 
   
Brockport State  at  Cortland State     7:30 PM

This was supposed to take place last night and Mother Nature got in the way. Both teams looking to make a move in the standings. Brockport looking to solidify 2nd place now that Geneseo fell out of a tie with them. They also need to be wary of hard charging Oswego, who looks to be the main threat to steal the 2nd seed from the Golden Eagles.

Cortland has designs of their own but the 2nd seed seems out if reach. Even if they defeat the Eagles tonight, to split the season series, Brockport will still own the tiebreaker against them by virtue of their win over the top seed Plattsburgh,(assuming Plattsburgh will be the top seed) while the Red Dragons got swept by the YAC leaders. So the only hope Cortland has for the #2 seed would be if Brockport loses all 3 remaining games and I don't see that happening with Potsdam coming to Brockport on the weekend. Cortland also loses the tiebreaker to Geneseo, so they need to win out and hope for the best in order to move up the ladder. They can still beat out Oswego, if they win the finale against the Lakers, and of course, tonight's game. The best they can hope for, I believe, is a home game in the quarterfinal round.

The oddsmakers think that the Golden Eagles are the better team and have favored them by a 5 point margin. Brockport has been playing quite well lately as they have put together a 5 game win streak and 7 of their last 8. The only blemish being a last second loss to Geneseo on a John Decker 3 pointer with just 3 seconds on the clock. I think they will prevail tonight as well, in a hard fought game. Brockport wins this one 79-73.

         
   
Potsdam  at  Plattsburgh State      7:30 PM

Another casualty of yesterday's weather that will only make it tougher for the Cardinals as they head west for the long road trip on the weekend. Now forced to play 3 games in 4 days the chances of a 2-0 road trip got considerably weaker, especially since Geneseo got to play their mid-week game on time. And of course we have to play the Knights on Saturday instead of Friday, which will be the to their benefit. If we could have played Brockport on Saturday it would have evened out a bit because they would also be playing their 3rd game in 4 days. IT is what is. Hopefully my guys can pull off another 2-0 road trip which they have already done 3 time this year. This one will be the toughest one though. I'll be happy to go 1-1.

Tonight the Cardinals can clinch the top seed and regular season SUNYAC crown for the 2nd year in a row. Potsdam will be hard pressed to prevent that from happening. The Cardinals were looking forward to do that on last Saturday's Senior Day against Oswego but the Lakers spoiled the party. I don't think they will be disappointed tonight.

The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a big 27 point favorite in this one and the Bears will struggle to keep it under that margin. Plattsburgh will look to have the regulars on the bench early so they can rest up for the weekend. Cardinals win this one 91-67.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2016, 08:03:32 PM
Brockport 43, Cortland 31, half.  Eagles by 39-24 with three minutes remaining in the half. Knotted at 20 at 10:30. Quicker and bigger Port shooting 64 percent. Having its way inside. O. Adeniran 10 pts for Brockport. JP Reagan 11 pts for the Corts who count 11 turnovers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 17, 2016, 09:13:15 PM
Cortland 73, Brockport 72, final

Whale of a second half for the host RDragons ......JP Reagan 28 pts (6x10fg, 2x2 3s, 14x16ft) in 29 minutes and point guard TJ Hefele 17 pts(6x13fg) in 35 minutes show the way .......

Tale of two halves. Looks like teams traded jerseys! Eagles snap 20-20 tie at 10:30 of the first half, lead 39-24 and go on to 43-21 intermission edge. J. Martinez sparks Corts starting the second half with pair of  penetrating buckets. Game on. Reagan FTs at 7:17 bring CSt within 59-58. C. Lyerly quickly lands a trey for the Port. Hefele immediately drives for a deuce and it's 62-60 Eagles at 6:30. Reagan FT and then a driving hoop put Cortland up 63-62. B. Estarfaa driving feed for Reagan layin makes it 65-62. Lyerly basket at 3:37 tightens matters. That man Reagan delivers again and Cortland leads by five at 2:23. Hefele fall-back hoop makes it 71-66 at 1:00. D. Gavin connects in the lane at 0:45. Hefele makes one FT at 0:22, Gavin one FT at 0:15, Corts' J. Morales one FT at 0:12 and it's 73-69. Gavin heaves in a trey at 0:04 -- 73-72. Long inbound Cortland pass expires the clock.

Cortland with 11 turnovers in the first half has just one beyond ......and turns to a driving attack that played a large part in 25x30 free throwing. To the contrary, Brockport just 11x22 from the stripe and no longer getting the good looks at the bucket. Eagles shoot 60 percent from the field in the first half and wind up just over 50 percent(28x53fg, 5x13 3s). Cortland 22x48fg, 4x14 3s and 33-26 rebounding advantage. Pretty fair RDragon defensive turnaround as well, especially Reagan insertion for C. Joseph for inside protection.

M. Kelly another revival force in 11 pt(3x6, 5x5ft, 5 rebs) performance in 27'. Estarfaa, the focus of Port defense, with 8 pts(3x6fg, 5 rebs) in 40'. Eagles with five double figure scorers. Lyerly 14 pts(6x10fg) 6 rebs in 32', L. Pace 12 pts(6x8fg), O. Adeniran 12 pts(4x6fg), Gavin 10 pts, , M. Smith 10 pts(3x5fg) in 30'. Brockport uses 13 players, Cortland 11
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 17, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Brockport blows another one. My teams give me nothing but grief. haha. Won't say more in my frustrated state.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Plattsburgh State 93 Potsdam State 62

Cardinal clinch regular season crown and will host the semifinals and finals of the SUNYAC tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 18, 2016, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Plattsburgh State 93 Potsdam State 62

Cardinal clinch regular season crown and will host the semifinals and finals of the SUNYAC tournament.

Sunyac title goes through Plattsbugh......again!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 18, 2016, 12:03:43 PM
Perfect for the Magicman and his Magic Wand

Memorial Hall will be rocking next weekend

Should be a Fantastic Finish in what has been a wild wild season
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2016, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 18, 2016, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Plattsburgh State 93 Potsdam State 62

Cardinal clinch regular season crown and will host the semifinals and finals of the SUNYAC tournament.

Sunyac title goes through Plattsbugh......again!
Quote from: All-Time on February 18, 2016, 12:03:43 PM
Perfect for the Magicman and his Magic Wand

Memorial Hall will be rocking next weekend

Should be a Fantastic Finish in what has been a wild wild season

Plus K to both of you.

So you guys have given me quite a dilemma. Was rooting for Mikey McElroy and the Oneonta Red Dragons to get in the playoffs and hopefully make a return trip to the 'Burgh.

Have always rooted for my Bengal friend along with Jordan Glover and his teammates to get back up here to the North Country as well.

Now you could play each other for the final piece of the puzzle, if you both win Friday night. (Which is not a given) My crystal ball may have a breakdown if I have to choose between the Bengals and the Red Dragons on Saturday. I'm not a happy camper that I'm about to be placed in this position. :P ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 18, 2016, 03:03:36 PM
Funny Stuff Magicman

It always seems to come down to these 2 teams the last couple of seasons for the final playoff spot.

Both of these teams have missed out on numerous opportunities to win games they should have won.

I don't think your crystal ball should have to endure the inconsistent play of these 2 teams on picking a winner.

I honestly think this game is a toss up. Hopefully both of these teams come to play and play to their talented potential.
It should be a BARN BURNER and let the best team win.

The SUNYAC this season has been full of surprises each and every night. Just when you think you have it all figured out something crazy happens.





Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2016, 04:52:57 PM
There isn't that much time left in the regular season as teams continue to fight to get into conference tournaments and position themselves for hopefully NCAA tournament bids. Second round of Regional Rankings are also out with plenty of answers... and questions. Plus, some teams are putting on some shows recently including a lot of buzzer beaters!

On Thursday night's Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh rolls up his sleeves and takes a look at what is happening as we head into the last ten days of the regular season. McHugh will also get some insight on Wednesday's insane men's basketball game between Lynchburg and No. 21 Roanoke. Plus, get a preview of the NESCAC men's and women's tournaments along with talking to ranked teams on both the men's and women's side.

Hoopsville hits the air at 7:00 pm ET and promises to go at least 2 1/2 hours. You can watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb18

Guests scheduled (in order of appearance):
- Alex Graves, Lynchburg senior forward
- Howard Herman, Berkshire Eagle, NESCAC tournaments preview
- Brian Morehouse, No. 3 Hope women's coach
- Bill Broderick, No. 16 Christopher Newport women's coach
- Tom Curle, No. 23 Plattsburgh State men's coach
- Eric Bridgeland, No. 9 Whitman men's coach

You can also tune into the podcast(s) after the show has aired:
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Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2016, 10:30:11 PM
Plattsburgh State coach Tom Curle was a guest on Hoopsville tonight. Nice interview by Dave McHugh discussing the team and the SUNYAC with the coach. You can access the interview on demand by clicking on this link and advancing the video to the 1:38 mark. That's 1 hour and 38 minutes into the program.

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb18
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 18, 2016, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 18, 2016, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 18, 2016, 09:19:41 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Plattsburgh State 93 Potsdam State 62

Cardinal clinch regular season crown and will host the semifinals and finals of the SUNYAC tournament.

Sunyac title goes through Plattsbugh......again!
Quote from: All-Time on February 18, 2016, 12:03:43 PM
Perfect for the Magicman and his Magic Wand

Memorial Hall will be rocking next weekend

Should be a Fantastic Finish in what has been a wild wild season

Plus K to both of you.

So you guys have given me quite a dilemma. Was rooting for Mikey McElroy and the Oneonta Red Dragons to get in the playoffs and hopefully make a return trip to the 'Burgh.

Have always rooted for my Bengal friend along with Jordan Glover and his teammates to get back up here to the North Country as well.

Now you could play each other for the final piece of the puzzle, if you both win Friday night. (Which is not a given) My crystal ball may have a breakdown if I have to choose between the Bengals and the Red Dragons on Saturday. I'm not a happy camper that I'm about to be placed in this position. :P ::)

I'm pulling for a "crystal ball breakdown"!!!   ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2016, 12:29:43 AM
At 10 pm this evening God called 1 of his young men home. Bradley Doyley has passed away. At 21 years of age, it just doesn't seem right. You will be missed. God knows best!

http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/images/2013/12/2/Doyley.jpg.ashx?preset=large.storyimage

Go Bradley......forever!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2016, 01:36:32 AM
Plattsburgh State's Tom Curle made a point of mentioning him tonight on Hoopsville when I neglected to per the challenging season in the SUNYAC. My thoughts are with his family and the basketball family at Buffalo State.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 01:39:28 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2016, 12:29:43 AM
At 10 pm this evening God called 1 of his young men home. Bradley Doyley has passed away. At 21 years of age, it just doesn't seem right. You will be missed. God knows best!

http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/images/2013/12/2/Doyley.jpg.ashx?preset=large.storyimage

Go Bradley......forever!

Champ,
That's is not the news that I was hoping to hear coming out of Buffalo. So sad and the worst thing is the circumstances that caused his illness to begin with. So senseless. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family at this time.

Too many tragic incidents in the SUNYAC this season.  No more please.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 19, 2016, 04:12:46 AM
Sometimes we just aren't able to see the plan...Thoughts and prayers to all concerned especially to those who loved Bradley.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2016, 09:09:37 AM
Quote from: with age came? on February 19, 2016, 04:12:46 AM
Sometimes we just aren't able to see the plan...Thoughts and prayers to all concerned especially to those who loved Bradley.

Indeed.  Thanks Dave, magic and age!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 19, 2016, 10:31:04 AM
My thoughts and prayers are the Doyley family on the tragic lose of their son Bradley.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2016, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 19, 2016, 10:31:04 AM
My thoughts and prayers are the Doyley family on the tragic lose of their son Bradley.

Appreciated All Time.  Thanks to coache's Dunne and Leone who called coach Fajri today and to coach Curle for his comments yesterday!

Buffalo News.....http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/buffalo-state/buffalo-state-student-dies-20160219
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 19, 2016, 01:34:01 PM
My gosh, what a terrible season for the SUNYAC family. Thoughts to the Buffalo State team. I hope they can get a win tonight!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 19, 2016, 01:34:01 PM
My gosh, what a terrible season for the SUNYAC family. Thoughts to the Buffalo State team. I hope they can get a win tonight!

Thanks pg. All of the school is pretty down right now.  News came to shoot around and already certain allegations have been published about cause of death. Mother and father are still in shock. Some of Bradleys family members plan on attending game tonight. Moment of silence before tip off in honor of Bradley is gonna be tough.  Real tough. Not much else to say!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 19, 2016, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 19, 2016, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 19, 2016, 01:34:01 PM
My gosh, what a terrible season for the SUNYAC family. Thoughts to the Buffalo State team. I hope they can get a win tonight!

Thanks pg. All of the school is pretty down right now.  News came to shoot around and already certain allegations have been published about cause of death. Mother and father are still in shock. Some of Bradleys family members plan on attending game tonight. Moment of silence before tip off in honor of Bradley is gonna be tough.  Real tough. Not much else to say!

I can't imagine what the parents are going through, nor the team for that matter, who need to fight to get into the SUNYACs. I read the story and it's terrible no matter what the cause but I hope they are able to find closure in what happened and if there was something nefarious that it gets taken care of.

My hope (not that I'm rooting against other teams) is that Buffalo State can use this as a "do it for Bradley" scenario and sweep the weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 07:05:06 PM
Friday February 19th    5 games...Playoff  implications in all of them.



New Paltz State  at  Buffalo State      7:30 PM


The Bengals will be looking for some payback in this one as they lost to the Hawks back on Jan. 23rd. That loss to the Hawks may cost the Bengals a playoff spot. There is still a door open for Buffalo State, however thanks to Oneonta's recent slide. If the Bengals win tonight and beat Oneonta tomorrow afternoon they will claim the final playoff positon for the SUNYAC tournament. The oddsmakers know that the Bengals have much more on the line than the Hawks do and have made the Orange and Black a 13 point favorite. The Bengals have heavy hearts as they lost one of their own last night when Bradley Doyley passed away. Tonight they will be playing for Bradley, and playing for a spot in the tournament. They win this one by a 90-74 final score.
       
   
Potsdam State  at  Geneseo State      7:30 PM

The Knights have a chance at the 2nd seed in the YAC and they aren't about to let the Bears stand in their way. A classic trap game as the Cardinals are up next and the Knights will be focused on them, but they still have too many weapons to lose to Potsdam. The Bears will be playing on one days rest and that was a 6 hour bus ride. Geneseo is favored by 18 points, they could win by more. The Knights coaching staff would love to see his starters resting comfortably on the bench early in the 2nd half. Potsdam beats the spread as the Knights win this one 84-68.
     
   
Oswego State  at  Cortland State      7:30 PM   Co-featured Game if the Day

Oswego can still win the 2nd seed and so can Cortland but they both will need help from Plattsburgh over the next 2 games. The winner of this one will get, at the very least, a home playoff game on Tuesday night in the quarterfinals. Cortland won the last meeting in Oswego so he Lakers will surely want to return the favor. Both teams playing perhaps their best ball of the season at the right time. Cortland has won 5 of their last 6 games with the only loss at the hands of Plattsburgh in the 'Burgh. Oswego, winners of 6 straight hasn't been swept by any YAC opponent this season and won't want the Red Dragons to have that honor.

The oddsmakers have made the road team a 3 point favorite here, and I don't think they even know that the Lakers have 1 more day of rest that Cortland, because of the weather related schedule changes earlier in the week. Both teams with big wins this week and Oswego with a chance to move up in the Regional Rankings next Wednesday with a win tonight. I can see them moving into 3rd place in those rankings as a definite possibility. If the Top 2 teams, Plattsburgh and Rochester, get automatic bids, the 3rd place team will be the one sitting at the table when the NCAA selection process starts to pick the 19 Pool C teams.

Corey Gymnasium is a tough place to play but Oswego has won there 4 of the past 5 years. Cortland has already lost 3 home conference games this year and tonight the Lakers will make it number 4. Oswego wins this one by a 78-73 final score.             


   
Oneonta State  at  Fredonia State      7:30 PM

Oneonta can only make tomorrow's game worth something if they win tonight. And of course if they do win this game and the Hawks upset the Bengals again, then these Red Dragons will clinch the final playoff spot. Oneonta would seem to have Fredonia's number here, as they overwhelmed the Blue Devils by a 95-66 margin 4 weeks ago. Remember, they also laid a big number on Oswego 90-52, only to have the Lakers win the next go around. So nothing is a given, especially with the way that Fredonia has improved as the season has progressed and the Red Dragons have struggled lately. They haven't beaten a team with a winning record in 6 weeks. Fortunately for Oneonta, Fredonia doesn't have a winning record.

The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons an 11 point favorite here and Mr. McElroy and friends better concentrate on the game at hand and worry about the Bengals later or the Blue Devils will lead them straight to hell. I think that Oneonta has too many seniors that don't want their season to end without a chance to make the YAC tournament. I'll take Oneonta here, by an 86-75 final score.   
           

Plattsburgh State  at  Brockport State      7:30 PM Co-featured Game of the Day

Plattsburgh may have clinched the top seed but the Cardinals know all too well that the NCAA doesn't give you a free pass for winning the regular season championship. A pair of losses this weekend along with an early loss in the YAC tournament and all the good things the Cards have done this year may well go up in smoke. Plattsburgh is still smarting from a Golden Eagle victory when these teams met back on January 23rd.

Brockport is still hoping for the #2 seed and a win tonight would, barring a major upset by the Bears tomorrow, give them that sought after prize, regardless of what anyone else does, as they would hold the tiebreaker over everyone. The Eagles stumbled the other night in Cortland and would like to have that one back but they still control their own destiny.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a slight 2 point favorite in this one and the guys promised me they would take care of business this weekend. Plattsburgh and Brockport love to win on each others home court as they have done so often. The Cardinals have won there in 2 of the past 3 years and I'm hoping they can do so again. Plattsburgh wins 80-76.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2016, 08:06:21 PM
Cortland 37, Oswego 29. One of RDragons' better halves. Up by double figures. Zone defense keeping Lakers at bay. Corts using plenty of bodies. Ten play, nine score .....JP Reagan 9 pts showing the way. B. Sortino struggling with one pt (0-6, 0x4 3s). K. Covley 9 pts for OSt
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 08:18:08 PM
Plattsburgh leading Brockport by a 46-36 score at the half.

Kyle Richardson with a jumper at the buzzer leads Plattsburgh with 13 points and 6 rebounds. Jon Patron with 8 points in very limited minutes. Saddled with 2 fouls and on the bench for a large part of the half. E Correa and Eli Bryant with 7 points each.

Clifton Lyerly with 8 points for the Golden Eagles. Olusola Adeniran has 7 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 08:21:48 PM
Oneonta leading Fredonia 38-28 with 8 minutes left in the game.

Ian Schupp with 13 points . Mikey McElroy with 9 for the Red Dagons.

Ian Helps leads Fredonia with 6 points
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 08:25:48 PM
Geneseo leads Potsdam early in the 2nd half by a 43-36 score.

Justin Ringen with 13 and John Decker has 10.

Nosa Onabor lead the Bears with 12 and Joe Estramonte also has 12 .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 08:29:06 PM
Buffalo State over New Paltz  52-30 at the break.

Lovell Smith with 21  and Nico McLean with 12 for the Bengals.

RJ Rosa with 18 for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 08:56:08 PM
Plattsburgh leads Brockport 68-62 with 3:28 to go.

Geneseo getting a battle from Potsdam as they are in front bearly by a 74-73 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 08:58:06 PM
Oneonta defeats Fredonia 75-59
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 19, 2016, 08:59:02 PM
Cortland 72, Oswego 61, final

RDragons by 14 at 6:30 on B. Estarfaa drive. Dribble penetration big part of revived Corts attack. JP Reagan off the bench for 22 pts. Estarfaa nets 17 pts with 7 rebs, 4 assts;  C. Joseph 11 pts, 7 rebs. A. Rawa with 19 pts(7x14fg, 4x7 3s) for Lakers. M. Krecko with 14 pts and 13 rebs in 17 minutes. Tough night for B. Sortino ....8 pts(3x13fg, 1x7 3s), 4 rebs.

Interesting on 6-10 jr. Krecko. Strikes for six points out of the gate and then sits a good deal. Takes hard fall in second half and sits. Returns and brings OSt within 65-57 at three minutes. Reagan fouls out K. Covley at 2:39, lands two FTs and hosts begin feeling it. Krecko tallies inside and makes a FT at 1:20 to make it 69-61. Dragon J. Morales FT at 0:54 and Estarfaa driving hoop post final Cortland marks

Corts hit fg at 47 percent, Oswego 37 percent and 6x30 3s. Cortland depth appears evident. Every button T. Span pushes seems to click. Reserve M. Kelly leaves his imprint, again. Dragon bench outpoints guests 36-2 as Cortland sweeps regular season series and snaps six game Oswego win streak
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 09:14:39 PM
Plattsburgh up 1 with 30 seconds to go 70-69. Plattsburgh to inbound the ball after a time out.  Port fouls Kyle Richardson who makes them both. Brockport hits a 3 pointer from Clifton Lyerly to tie the game with 11 seconds to go.  Plattsburgh takes a time out and gives the ball to Ed Correa. He takes a 3 pointer that misses and after a  scramble for the rebound Xavier Thomas gets it and puts it up and in with 2 seconds to go. Port takes a time out and inbounds the ball and throws up a long heave that misses the mark with a second to go. The Cards grab it, and Richardson is fouled again. He makes them both and Plattsburgh wins the game 76-72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
Geneseo hangs on to beat a pesky Potsdam team by a final score of 85-77
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2016, 09:19:46 PM
Buffalo State cruises over New Paltz 94-79. Bengals up by 36 at one point 70-34 before turning it over to the reserves.  They did win one for Bradley Doyley.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 19, 2016, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2016, 09:14:39 PM
Plattsburgh up 1 with 30 seconds to go 70-69. Plattsburgh to inbound the ball after a time out.  Port fouls Kyle Richardson who makes them both. Brockport hits a 3 pointer from Clifton Lyerly to tie the game with 11 seconds to go.  Plattsburgh takes a time out and gives the ball to Ed Correa. He takes a 3 pointer that misses and after a  scramble for the rebound XavierThomas gets it and put it up and in with 2 seconds to go. Port takes a time out and inbounds the ball and throws up a long heave that misses with a second to go. The Cards inbound it, Richardson is fouled again. He makes them both and Plattsburgh wins the game 76-72.

Rats.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 19, 2016, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2016, 09:19:46 PM
Buffalo State cruises over New Paltz 94-79. Bengals up by 36 at one point 70-34 before turning it over to the reserves.  They did win one for Bradley Doyley.

This makes me happier though
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2016, 12:34:28 AM
Quote from: pg04 on February 19, 2016, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2016, 09:19:46 PM
Buffalo State cruises over New Paltz 94-79. Bengals up by 36 at one point 70-34 before turning it over to the reserves.  They did win one for Bradley Doyley.

This makes me happier though

Me too! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 11:49:46 AM
Plattsburgh State 76 Brockport State 72

I had the Cardinals winning this one by an 80-76 final score. I was 4 points off each team's total but had the margin of victory right on the money.

Plattsburgh did not want a repeat of the scenario that took place when these two teams hooked up in the 'Burgh. In that game they allowed the Golden Eagles to jump in front early and the Cardinals were playing catch up all night long. They trailed by 12 points and went into the half down by 10. On Friday night it was a different story. Both teams came out firing and the initial 8 minutes of play featured 5 ties and 8 lead changes as the teams took turns trying to get an edge. Finally it was Plattsburgh, down 17-13 who put together a run of 12 straight points, to grab an 8 point lead at 25-17. Jon Patron started it off with 2 inside baskets, with a free throw added on on the 2nd one. Chris Middleton got into the act as he threw one down off a fast break and Mr. Reliable, Kyle Richardson, scored inside with a layup and outside with a long range bomb. Plattsburgh would maintain the lead for the rest of the period but Port would twice cut it to a single possession 3 point lead, the last time coming at the 6:20 mark on consecutive layups by Cordell Torres. A pair of free throws and a 3 pointer by Eli Bryant gave the Cardinals their largest lead of the half at 40-30 with 3:38 to go. The Eagles got it back to single digits on a putback by Ismael Pierre but Richardson rebounded a missed Plattsburgh field goal with 2 seconds on the clock and beat the buzzer with a short jumper to head into the break with the Cards up, 46-36. Richardson had 13 points in the period and hauled in 6 rebounds to be well on his way toward another double-double.

Brockport cut into that lead at the start of the 2nd half and quickly got it to 7 points but 3 straight inside baskets by Xavier Thomas, Jon Patron and Richardson boosted Plattsburgh to the largest lead of the night at 53-40 with 17:14 remaining. All that did was fire up the Eagles as they reeled off 9 points in a row to tighten the game up and make it 53-49. Plattsburgh continued to stay in front by a 2 possession margin over the next 4 minutes of play and when Brockport finally got within 2 points, the Cardinals shot back in front by 8 points, on a resounding dunk by the X-Man, Thomas, that the announcer said belonged on ESPN's Top Ten highlights. Thirty seconds later Ed Correa hit from downtown and the lead was 68-60 with 4:25 left in the game.

Somehow I knew this one was far from over and sure enough the Cardinals developed a bad case of the givitoyas and handed the ball to the Eagles 4 times in their next 8 possessions. They also missed from the field on 3 of those trips down the floor and only a pair of free throws by Kyle Richardson had them adding to their point total. Brockport scored on 4 of their 8 possessions, including a 3 pointer by Devonn Gavin, and when Levi Pace got an offensive rebound and a layin the Eagles were within a point at 70-69 and there was 1:07 left to play. That minute and seven seconds felt like it took an hour as both teams called numerous time outs...a total of 6 in all... as they each misfired on their ensuing possession. First it was the Cardinals who failed to score and then Brockport, with a chance to take the lead for the first time since midway in the 1st half, came up empty with 35 seconds to go. Jon Patron got that all important rebound for the Cardinals and they called a  timeout to set things up.

When Plattsburgh inbounded the ball after that time out, Brockport wasted little time and fouled Kyle Richardson who calmly made them both to put the Cards up by 3. I knew the Golden Eagles would go for the tie by attempting a 3 pointer and sure enough with 17 seconds left Hamed Shamseldin took the shot. He missed it but the Eagles got the offensive rebound from Devonn Gavin. I'm yelling at my computer, foul him, foul him, but too late, the ball goes to Clifton Lyerly and the camera angle is perfect, as I watched a nothing but net 3 ball, that ties the score with 11 seconds left. Plattsburgh took a time out and put the ball in the hands of Ed Correa. I know what's coming next and it won't be a pass, as Correa takes the 3 point shot with just a few seconds left. He misses and after a scramble for the rebound XavierThomas grabs it and puts it back, in with 2 seconds to go. Port takes a time out, then inbounds the ball and throws up a long heave that is intercepted by Richardson with a second to go. Richardson is fouled again and hits them both, making the final score 76-72.

I'm pretty sure that my huge exclamation of relief as the X-Man made that basket to put us in front was heard half way around the world. I know Mrs. magicman was lifted about 3 feet out of her chair when I let loose.

Plattsburgh got double figures from the 5 players that have been scoring in double digits and it's amazing how close to their averages they were.

Kyle Richardson was the game's high scorer with 21 points (6x12 fg, 1x2 3's, 8x8 ft) and also grabbed a game high 11 rebounds, 5 of them on the offensive end. It was Kyle's 12th double-double of the season, which leads the SUNYAC by a large margin. He has also had 6 other games where he just missed a double-double by 1 or 2 rebounds often because Plattsburgh's lead was so large that Kyle was relaxing on the bench while the reserves took over. He added 2 blocks and 2 steals in 38 minutes of court time and his 6 big free throws near the end of the game were huge.  He has now made 18 consecutive free throws over his last 4 games. Richardson remains the leading candidate for the SUNYAC Player of the Year. Leading the Cardinals to the best record in the conference should be a primary factor when consideration for this award is voted upon.

Ed Correa had 15 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Jon Patron scored 13 points despite being in foul trouble early and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. He entered the game in the first half and gave the Cards 8 big points in just 9 minutes, before leaving with 2 fouls for the rest of the period.

Xavier Thomas had a few problems hanging on to the ball, Friday and had a season high 6 turnovers, but being in the right place at the right time, has a way of making all those mistakes disappear. Corralling that rebound and scoring what proved to be the game winner restored the balance to the Force.  The X-Man has been on a roll lately with his array of high flying, big time dunks and he had 2 more electrifying jams in this game. He finished with 10 points and 9 rebounds, the 2nd game in a row he's just missed a double-double.

Eli Bryant came off the bench to run the point for the majority of the game tonight and scored his season average of 10 points. He added 4 rebounds,a steal and 1 assist.

The Golden Eagles got 20 points (9x16 fg, 2x4 3's 0x2 ft) 6 rebounds, 1 assist, and a steal from Clifton Lyerly. Olusola Adeniran had 11 points, 3 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Was glad to see that Hamed Shamseldin is back in action and that he got 24 minutes of court time. He scored 8 points, had 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.  Levi Pace had 6 points, 6 boards, a block and a steal while Devonn Gavin had 6 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Matthew Smith added 5 points, 3 assists and a steal.   


The Cardinals shot 38.5% from the field (25x65) to 44.4% (32x72) for Brockport. Neither team was at their best from long distance as the Cards were 4x18 (22.2%) and the Eagles were 5x22 (22.7%). Plattsburgh was the clear winner at the stripe as they were 22x28 (78.6%) while Brockport only went to the line 5 times making 3 free throws (60%). Plattsburgh was fouled in the act of shooting much more than Brockport was and it proved to be a telling statistic. The Cardinals also had their 4th best night from the line that they have had all year.

Plattsburgh won the battle of the boards by a 48-36 margin but committed their 3rd highest turnover total of the season with 20 giveaways. Brockport  had 14 turnovers.

Plattsburgh improves to 20-4 overall as the Cardinals hit the magic 20 win mark for the 6th time in the 13 seasons that Coach Tom Curle has been the head of the program. Curle and the Cardinals are shooting for their 7th trip to the NCAA tournament in those 13 years, more than any other college in the East Region during that span. Plattsburgh's conference record is now 15-2.

The Cardinals will end their regular season today, with a 4:00 PM game  at Geneseo State. The Knights, now 17-7 overall, and 11-6 in the YAC, stand a half game behind 12-6 Cortland in the battle for the 2nd seed. A Geneseo win will give them the 2nd seed since they hold the tiebreaker over Cortland by virtue of a season sweep against the Red Dragons.

Cortland has completed their regular season and all eyes will be on this game as they will be rooting for Plattsburgh like there's no tomorrow. If the Cards win, Cortland automatically advances to the semifinals next Friday in the 'Burgh. If Geneseo wins, then Cortland will be the 3rd seed, host a quarterfinal game and play the winner of the Oneonta-Buffalo State game.             
           

                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 03:36:48 PM
Saturday February 20th   Four Final Regular Season Games For Conference Seedings.

New Paltz State  at  Fredonia State               4:00 PM

This one is for bragging rights and pride. Both teams closed out of the playoffs. Fredonia with a young team looking to build for next year. The Blue Devils improved considerably since the start of the season and posted their best record in 4 years. With their top 7 players back next year they should be a  playoff contender.

New Paltz took a step backward this season and will lose 3 of their top 6 players. They will need another good recruiting class to fill some big holes and beef up the bench.

The point spread favors the Blue Devils by a 4 point margin as they look to sweep the season series. I'm going with the home team here as Fredonia wins it by a 74-68 final score.   

   

Potsdam State  at  Brockport State        4:00 PM

Brockport can only hope for a home playoff game but they have to beat Potsdam to get it and they need Plattsburgh to beat Geneseo. They will be joining the Cortland variety of Red Dragons rooting hard for the Cardinals.I can't remember when the last time was, that Plattsburgh experienced such popularity.

The Bears gave Geneseo a good battle yesterday  but they will be up against it with the pressure the Golden Eagles will bring. Brockport won by 37 in Potsdam, and this one could get ugly, early.  The oddsmaker have made the Bears a 22 point underdog and I don't think they will cover the spread. Playing their 3rd game in 4 days and the long trip should take their toll and the Golden Eagles should roll in this one by an 91-66 final score. And that's if the Brockport coaching staff limits his starters to 15 to 20 minutes like he did the first time these teams met.
   

   
Oneonta State  at  Buffalo State                4:00 PM Co-featured Game of the Day

This one is for all the marbles...so to speak. Lose and you go home. Win and you get to play at least 1 more game. You also get to have the eternal hope (at least for a few days) that you can win 3 games and go dancing. Kind of like a dollar and a dream. ;D

But hey, Plattsburgh won the conference championship as the 6th seed back in 2005-06 and I remember when Brockport won their final game of the season back in the 2008-09 season just to get into the playoffs. They had to beat the 1st place team in the conference because they would have been tied with Plattsburgh for the 8th and last seed if they lost. Plattsburgh owned the tiebreaker over them so they had to finish a game ahead of the Cardinals to advance. I remember thinking that the Cardinals were going to make the tournament because there was no way that 9th place Brockport would beat 1st place Geneseo and bump us out of the playoffs. Not only did Brockport beat Geneseo to make the playoffs, 3 days later they beat the Knights again to knock off the top seed. Then they won the next 2 games to clinch the YAC championship, a trip to the dance and the honor of having the worst record in the tournament at 14-14. So you never know.

This afternoon the Bengal and the Red Dragons will fight it out to see which team will play on the road next Tuesday night at the #3 seed. Both teams have experienced some stretches of good solid basketball leading me to believe they were solidly in contention for one of the top spots in the conference. But both teams fell on hard times, the Bengals by losing a series of last second games and the Red Dragons by losing the momentum they had back when they were 5-1 in the YAC and had whipped through the likes of Oswego, Geneseo and Brockport. I don't know where that team went and I don't know if they will be back for this game today. I do know the Bengals have a mission and the last time that Oneonta won in the Queen City was 6 years ago when the Bengals were a mediocre team and the Red Dragons were tied for first place with Plattsburgh. That scenario isn't the case today. Both teams are quality teams with numerous players that can hurt you but I think the Bengals at home, playing for Bradley ,will pull this one out. The oddsmakers have made the visiting Dragons a slim 2 point favorite. The Bengals have beaten the top team in the New Jersey Athletic Conference, New Jersey City and they have also beaten the top team in the CUNYAC conference, Lehman College. They have hung with the Cardinals right to the bitter end and played us as tough as anybody, losing in OT the first time and getting beat on a last second 3 pointer in the rematch. Today I think they will have a reason to celebrate as they take care of business and win this one 85-80.

                 

Plattsburgh State  at  Geneseo State        4:00 PM Co-featured Game of the Day

This could be a killer for the Cardinals as they play their 3rd game in 4 days.

Last night's win over Brockport was for pride to avenge an earlier loss to the Golden Eagles. It was also to solidify a chance for a Pool C bid to the NCAA tournament in case we lose in the conference playoffs. With the #1 spot in the East Regional Rankings and a 20 win season in the books I think that Plattsburgh should make the tournament now, one way or another.   

Big dilemma facing me now because the last time Plattsburgh State went 2-0 on that western trip to play Brockport and Geneseo was 11 years ago, in 2004-05. Having won on Friday, the odds are not good that the Cardinals can win on Saturday. Plattsburgh is a perfect 8-0 on the road in conference play this year and the game against Geneseo will be one of their toughest challenges. Compounding my decision is the fact that Geneseo played Tuesday and then this weekend as scheduled while Plattsburgh's Tuesday game was postponed until Wednesday forcing the Cardinals to play 3 games in 4 days. And then there's that 7 hour bus trip on their off day to get to the western part of the state from the far reaches of the North Country.

Geneseo's win on Friday night, coupled with  losses by Brockport and Oswego, have left the Knights in prime position to win the 2nd seed and automatic bye into the semifinals of the SUNYAC tournament. If they win they need no help, they are the #2 seed.  Just one more reason that makes this a tough game to pick.

The Knights could finish as far down in the standings  as 5th place if they lose and Brockport wins. That has to be on their mind when considering the ramifications of this game. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 6 point road favorite in this one. I'd pick against the Cardinals if they weren't my team based on the history of this road trip alone, but I keep remembering what the X-Man Thomas and Kyle Richardson said to me before they left. They told me that the team was going to take care of business this week. I guess you just gotta believe. Plattsburgh wins this one 88-83.                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2016, 04:38:16 PM

Almost unnoticed as Cortland awaits its playoff positioning, JP Reagan recently reached a milestone as a key first-year Cortland cog. A Cortland native who returned home for his senior season, he has 1,067 career points. Reagan spent his first three seasons as a decorated RIT performer and scored 787 Tiger points. Has 280 as a RDragon including 50 in wins this week.

Cortland's defending national champion baseballers open this afternoon with 8-4 conquering of host Salisbury, NC. Corts No. 1 ranked entering the campaign, today's Sea Gulls foe No. 4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2016, 04:45:51 PM
Plattsburgh 36, Geneseo 33, half

Buffalo St. 44, Oneonta 43, half. L. Smith 14 pts lead trio of Bengals in double figures. L. Coleman with 11 for Oneonta. Even game statistically. Buffs with just two turnovers. Oneonta with rebounding advantage
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 04:50:54 PM
Plattsburgh 36 Geneseo 33

Kyle Richardson leads the Cardinals with 16 points and 5 rebounds at the break. Jon Patron has7 points and 6 rebounds.

Kevin Crockett has 9 points for Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 04:59:09 PM
Brockport leading Potsdam 41-36 at the half.

Clifton Lyerly 14 points for the Golden Eagles.

Joe Estramonte 12 points for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 05:09:05 PM
Playoff Scenarios

If Geneseo beats Plattsburgh they will be the #2 seed. Cortland would be #3. Brockport would be #4 if they beat Potsdam and Oswego would be 5th.

If Geneseo loses to Plattsburgh then Cortland is the #2 seed. Brockport would be the #3 seed if they beat Potsdam, Oswego would be #4 and Geneseo would come in 5th.

If Geneseo beats Plattsburgh and Brockport loses,  then Geneseo is #2, Cortland is #3, Oswego is #4 and Brockport is #5.

If Geneseo and Brockport both lose then Cortland is #2, Oswego is #3, Geneseo is #4, and Brockport is #5.

And of course the winner of the Oneonta-Buff State game is the #6seed.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 05:12:36 PM
Buffalo State leading Oneonta at the half by a 44-43 score.

Lovell Smith with 14 points. Kevin Marmolejos and Nico McLean with 10 each.

Lawrence Coleman with 11 and Seth Thomsen with 7 for Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 05:14:33 PM
New Paltz leading Fredonia by a 43-37 score early in the 2nd period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 05:47:11 PM
Plattsburgh leads Geneseo 72-70 with 58 seconds to go. Ed Correa just buried a 3 pointer to give the Cardinals the lead.Time out and the Knights have the ball. Foul called on Correa with 43 seconds left. Knights make them both to tie it up. Correa is fouled with 22 ticks left He makes 1 of 2 but Jon Patron gets the rebound off the missed free throw. He gets fouled and makes them both to give Plattsburgh a 75-72 lead with 19 seconds left to play. Both teams take a time out. Geneseo inbounds it but can't get a shot off and calls a time out with 6 seconds left.

Geneseo takes a 3 point shot as the clock runs out and they come up empty. Plattsburgh wins 75-72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 20, 2016, 05:55:36 PM
Plattsburgh 76, Geneseo 72, final

Cortland winds up second with opening round Tuesday bye .....

Buffalo St. by 13  with just over a minute left vs. Oneonta . BS will advance to playoffs. Tough finish for OSt
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 06:06:43 PM
Buffalo State clinches the 6th seed in the conference tournament by defeating Oneonta by a 96-86 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 06:10:13 PM
Brockport clinches the #3 seed by defeating Potsdam 92-76.

Oswego is the 4th seed and Geneseo is 5th
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 06:11:54 PM
Tuesday February 23rd quarterfinal games

Buffalo State at Brockport State

Geneseo State at Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 06:15:04 PM
Fredonia misses 3 of 4 free throws in the final 6 seconds and drops a close 74-72 decision to New Paltz.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Congrats to our friend Bengalsrule and the Bengals making it in to the conference tournament. My rooting for them, however and understandably, stops here!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2016, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Congrats to our friend Bengalsrule and the Bengals making it in to the conference tournament. My rooting for them, however and understandably, stops here!

Thanks....and understood!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 06:51:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 20, 2016, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Congrats to our friend Bengalsrule and the Bengals making it in to the conference tournament. My rooting for them, however and understandably, stops here!

Thanks....and understood!

Should be another barnburner. Love the rivals to meet with so much on the line. Both teams have shown flashes of brilliance and I expect it to come down to the last minute.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 07:32:35 PM
As for Plattsburgh, Congrats on the #1 seed! This better be enough, regardless of the conference tourney, to get in to the tournament at least as a pool C.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Congrats to our friend Bengalsrule and the Bengals making it in to the conference tournament. My rooting for them, however and understandably, stops here!

What you aren't rooting for them on Tuesday? You'd think they were playing your alma mater or something.

I wanted to thank you for rooting me on over on the National Pick 'Em League Board. I was locked into 4th place after the 12th week but managed to gain ground each of the next 3 weeks to forge into a tie for first place and lay claim to being the Co-Champion of the League for the 2015-16 season. My final record for the 15 week contest was 94-56  which is fairly good considering those games are mostly between teams that are of equal strength. I was 2 games down to KnightSlappy entering the final week. He liked most of the same teams I did but we differed on 2 games in the final 10 game slate. He took Staten Island and I chose Lehman College. He took Penn State-Behrend and I chose Hilbert. Lehman and Hilbert both won and we tied for the title. I was 8-2 to win the week. The Plattsburgh State-Geneseo State game was the final game of the season in the Pick 'Em League  and my Cardinals won that nailbiter to really make my day. 8-)           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 10:20:14 PM
I had no doubts that you could do it  ;D. Congrats- It's quite an accomplishment to have such a great record picking games, especially games all around the nation!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2016, 11:52:49 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 07:32:35 PM
As for Plattsburgh, Congrats on the #1 seed! This better be enough, regardless of the conference tourney, to get in to the tournament at least as a pool C.

Yeah 21-4 after the regular season is plenty good enough. We will have a final record of 21-5 if we lose on Friday or 22-5 if we lose in the championship game. Either one means we are NCAA tournament bound. We will still be #1 in the Regional Rankings.

I'm not sure if another team from the YAC makes the tournament if Plattsburgh wins the automatic bid. With every other team already having 7 or 8 losses  (9 for Brockport) it would mean an 8 loss team (at the very least) would be trying to get a Pool C bid. We couldn't get one last year at 19-8, although we did get one 3 years ago at 19-8. Geneseo, Oswego, and Brockport all losing in the past  week (Port twice) really put a damper on Pool C bids from those 3. Cortland tied with Oswego with an 18-7 overall record (the best records in the YAC after Plattsburgh) doesn't have a great SOS either. We really needed a 2nd place team with a 20-5  or 19-6 record entering the conference tournament.  Two years ago we got 3 teams into the dance but they had, prior to the tournament, records of 24-3...Brockport-won the YAC title and the automatic bid;  22-5...Plattsburgh-runner-up to Brockport lost in the championship game and got a Pool C bid and 21-6...Geneseo 3rd place in the YAC, lost to Plattsburgh in the semifinals, got a Pool C bid.  We aren't even close to those lofty records this year, other than Plattsburgh.   

Our best chance of being a 2 bid league would be if someone other than the Cardinals wins the SUNYAC tournament. Then we will get 2 bids for sure. I'm kind of greedy though, and really want the Cardinals to win the Conference Championship.

The Empire 8 Conference is in the same situation. St. John Fisher at 20-5  is probably going to get a bid even if they lose in the E8 tournament. If they win it though the next best team in the E8 will be Nazareth or Hartwick with 9 losses and that's too many to get a Pool C bid, I believe.

The Liberty League is a 1 bid league which will go to the winner of the tournament. No other school has a chance.

Lancaster Bible will get the NEAC 's automatic bid. I don't think anyone can beat them in that conference unless they run into a team of refs who have their 3 stars sitting on the bench with fouls, early on. I don't think they get in, even with only 1 loss, should they get upset in their tournament. They have the worst SOS in the entire East Region. The NCAA won't reward that type of scheduling. (At least I don't think they will, unless God somehow intercedes for the Chargers :D) They really are a pretty good team and it would have been interesting to have them play a number of schools from the YAC or E8 like Medaille does every year. I hope they don't end up in a first round match up with my Cardinals. I'm hoping, because they are in Pennsylvania, that if they are in the tournament, they get sent toward Wooster or F & M or Jersey. They will likely, coming from a small conference, be paired up with a school like John Carroll or Wooster from a much stronger conference. Somebody expecting to make a strong run could get surprised by the Chargers right off the bat.

Rochester and NYU are in the running to go dancing. Rochester will most likely be playing for the automatic bid from the UAA on  Saturday, February 27th. They have a game tomorrow against Carnegie Mellon the last place team in the conference. Then they will meet Emory on the 27th and both schools will probably be 11-2 at that time with the winner getting the NCAA bid.

NYU, currently in 3rd place with an 8-4 conference record and 19-4 overall, can't win the conference and since their is no conference tournament in the UAA (regular season winner gets the automatic bid) NYU's only hope, and Rochester's only hope if they lose to Emory on the 27th, will be a Pool C bid. It wouldn't surprise me to see the NCAA give both of these schools a Pool C bid from the East Region. Private schools always seem to get favored over the state schools. I personally think that the UAA conference isn't very strong this year but I'm not the one awarding the bids. NYU played an out of conference schedule that is laughable, it's so weak. 11-0 outside the conference but only 2 teams with a winning record both from weak conferences. Every school in the SUNYAC with the exception of Cortland has a stronger SOS than NYU. Rochester will get a Pool C bid before NYU will. NYU with a better overall record but a .507 SOS. Rochester's SOS is currently .575. Big difference. ::)

I think it shows just how strong our conference is when the 7th place team, Oneonta and the 5th place team, Brockport, gave the Empire 8 regular season champs, St John Fisher, 2 of their 5 losses. Not to mention Buffalo State our 6th place finisher, beating the top seeds of the NJAC conference, New Jersey City, who is the #1 ranked team in the Atlantic Region, and Lehman College, the top ranked team in the CUNYAC conference who should be ranked, next time the rankings come out, as they just beat Staten Island. Oswego beat the top team in the UAA, Rochester, and Plattsburgh beat the top team in the NESCAC, Trinity, without the help of their best player, Kyle Richardson, who missed the game with a dislocated finger. Too bad we beat each other up so badly this year. I said back in November that we had 7 quality teams fighting for 6 playoff spots and that someone would get left out. That team, who we now know to be Oneonta, went into the home turf of Franklin and Marshall and nearly beat the Diplomats losing to them in overtime on some questionable officiating. Oneonta could probably make the playoffs in a hell of a lot of other conferences that are supposed to be stronger than the YAC. Notice I said supposed to be. ;)

So that's pretty much the rundown on the East Region. The tournaments should be interesting, especially in the SUNYAC with 6 teams all capable of winning 2 or 3 games in a row.
             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 21, 2016, 09:39:14 AM
Magicman.....congrats!  Maybe the congrats should be to the team for getting the top seed :). Was worried a little about your health.  Saw a bit of one close win and then read about the other close win.
Lots of conferences are very competative this year and conference tournaments will see some upsets....whatever " upsets" mean these days.  Still hoping our teams will get to the post season and maybe meet in the Final 4!  May need some of your Magic1 dust ;D.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 21, 2016, 09:40:53 AM
BengalsRule,
Congratulations to Buffalo State on making the playoffs.
They were the better team yesterday and seemed to want too more.
They also had Bradley Doyley on their minds.
Hopefully they make it to Plattsburgh next weekend.
Good Luck, Im rooting for you. And of course the Plattsburgh Cardinals



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2016, 02:02:54 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 21, 2016, 09:40:53 AM
BengalsRule,
Congratulations to Buffalo State on making the playoffs.
They were the better team yesterday and seemed to want too more.
They also had Bradley Doyley on their minds.
Hopefully they make it to Plattsburgh next weekend.
Good Luck, Im rooting for you. And of course the Plattsburgh Cardinals

Much thanks All-Time. I must admit, the Sunyac family has never been stronger. After game Oneonta coach Medici wished Bengal coaches the best of luck and encouraged Bengals coaches to " go get em" in the playoffs!! Friday night, before tip-off, New Paltz coach Rejniak walked down to Bengals bench, and offered Bengal coaches condolences and mentioned how tough a year it's been for all of Sunyac. After game ( which was attended by over 2,000 people and every media outlet in WNY), along with Bradleys family (who were recognized at halftime), Rejniak encouraged each Bengal coach and player to win Saturday to get to the playoffs!  Class act by both coaches this weekend under difficult circumstances for everyone, and especially a visiting team!

I'm honored to be part of the SUNYAC fellowship like the 1 we have here fellas.  Honored and proud to know all of you!

#playforbradley!!!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2016, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Congrats to our friend Bengalsrule and the Bengals making it in to the conference tournament. My rooting for them, however and understandably, stops here!

pg will you be Brockport game ??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 21, 2016, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2016, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 20, 2016, 06:37:08 PM
Congrats to our friend Bengalsrule and the Bengals making it in to the conference tournament. My rooting for them, however and understandably, stops here!

pg will you be Brockport game ??

Nah, I live all the way in Georgia, unfortunately! So I never get to see any of Brockport's teams. I'll actually be in Pittsburgh later this week for something, so I might not even be able to watch online. Grrr!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
Saturday's Game

Plattsburgh State 76  Geneseo State 72

Once again Plattsburgh comes out on top in a game decided in the final seconds. I knew this one was going to be close and I had the Cards winning by a 88-83 final. Both teams playing like they were tired which I'm sure they were, especially Plattsburgh with the short week and long bus ride. The guys can sleep on the way home but they may be so wound up after accomplishing a rare 2-0 western road trip that sleep may be the furthest thing on their mind.

Plattsburgh went 9-0 in the conference on the road and I don't think that's been done since Chad Burridge and the Oswego State Lakers ran the table back in the 2011-12 season. The only other time in recent memory was the Plattsburgh State "Sweet 16" team of 2007-08, led by All American Anthony Williams and All Region Travis Gorham, that also ran the table and finished 16-0 in the YAC. Quite an accomplishment in this tough league especially with the long bus rides. 

Plattsburgh took the early lead behind 7 quick points from Kyle Richardson and the Cardinals maintained a 2 or 3 possession lead throughout most of the first half. Jon Patron, the 2nd leading scorer for Plattsburgh, entered the game and immediately brought his instant offense, which pushed the Cardinal lead to 9 points at 25-16 and again moments later at 28-19. The Knights responded with a 9-2 spurt to get within 2 points and narrowed it to a single point on a long distance shot by Kevin Crockett, making it 32-31. The teams traded trips to the line, each making a pair of free throws, then Richardson, who opened the scoring for Plattsburgh to start the game, ended the half with an offensive rebound and a layup to put the Cards up by a 36-33 score at the half. Richardson led all scorers with 16 first half points.

The Knights wasted little time squaring things up as Kevin Crockett got a hoop and harm 10 seconds into the period and his free throw gave the Knights their first tied score of the game. Jon Patron would have none of that, however, and scored 7 straight points for Plattsburgh, followed by a steal and a dunk by Richardson which put the Cards back in front by a 9 point margin once again at 45-36 only 3 minutes into the half. Over the next 12 minutes Plattsburgh continued to lead by a comfortable margin which saw their lead grow to a game high 11 points on 2 separate occasions, the last coming off a layup by Xavier Thomas which put Plattsburgh up 60-49 with 9:34 left to play.

The Cardinals were still up by 9 points after Jon Patron got a 3 point play the hard way. He followed that up with another trip to the line, making 2 free throws on the next Cardinal possession. There was 4:52 left on the clock and the Knights made their move. John Decker hit a 3 pointer, then he went to the line and made a pair of free throws. The Cards turned it over and Kevin Crockett hit another 3 ball. When Plattsburgh misfired at the other end, Geneseo came down, scored on a Decker drive and the Knights had the lead for the first time all day at 68-67 with 2:32 remaining. The teams again traded trips to the line, with Richardson swishing 2 for Plattsburgh and Decker doing the same for the Knights. Both teams missed from the field and then Ed Correa hit another big basket for Plattsburgh, as he's done his entire career. He drained a long distance bomb that put the Cards up 72-70 with 1:09 to play.

Geneseo tied the game up on 2 free throws from CJ Burke but Correa got fouled on the Cards next possession with 25 seconds left. Correa made the first but missed the 2nd and Jon Patron with perhaps his biggest rebound of the season got fouled as he hauled in the missed free throw. He made both shots and the Cards led 75-72. Knowing that the Knights needed a 3 pointer, Plattsburgh defended the perimeter and the Knights struggled to get a good look, leading to another Geneseo time out with 6 seconds to go. Their final attempt by Kevin Crockett was a decent look, but Xavier Thomas was flying at him with a hand in his face and the shot was off the mark. Kyle Richardson got the rebound, was fouled, and he made 1 of 2 for the final score.

Jon Patron had a big 2nd half for Plattsburgh and led the team with a double-double of 22 points and 12 rebounds. He was 7x14 from the field and 8x13 from the line.

Kyle Richardson was close behind with 21 points and 9 rebounds, 4 on the offensive end, once again just missing out on another double-double. He added 3 steals 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Senior Ed Correa had 11 points, 5 rebounds, an assist and a steal. Xavier Thomas added 9 points and 5 rebounds.

Kevin Crockett was the leading scorer in the game as he led the Knights with 23 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Kevin had a big night from behind the arc as hit 6x13 from downtown.

John Decker was the only other player in double figures with 11 points and 4 rebounds. CJ Burke had 9 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists. Jack Manke had 7 rebounds and 5 points.

The Knights leading scorer, Justin Ringen, was hit with 2 quick fouls in the first half and after sitting out for 6 minutes went back in at the 9:13 mark of the 1st half. A minute later he got his 3rd foul and was a fixture on the bench for the rest of the half. He got his 4th foul a little over a minute into the 2nd half and was limited to only 5 minutes in the final period. All together he only saw 11 minutes of floor time and understandably, led to his least productive game of the season. His total of 6 points and 2 rebounds were season lows. I never like it when that happens to a Plattsburgh player, so I can feel the frustration that the Geneseo faithful must have experienced. His lack of PT was definitely a factor in the game.

Plattsburgh ends the regular season with a 21-4 record and wins the regular season championship for the 2nd year in a row, this time with 14-2 record, in the tough SUNYAC conference. They will host the semifinals and finals next weekend and will meet the winner of the Geneseo-Oswego game that will take place on Tuesday night at the #4 seed, Oswego, at 7:00 PM.

The Knights end the regular season with a 17-8 overall record and a final 11-7 SUNYAC log. They ended up as the #5 seed for the conference tournament.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 21, 2016, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2016, 02:02:54 PM

Much thanks All-Time. I must admit, the Sunyac family has never been stronger. After game Oneonta coach Medici wished Bengal coaches the best of luck and encouraged Bengals coaches to " go get em" in the playoffs!! Friday night, before tip-off, New Paltz coach Rejniak walked down to Bengals bench, and offered Bengal coaches condolences and mentioned how tough a year it's been for all of Sunyac. After game ( which was attended by over 2,000 people and every media outlet in WNY), along with Bradleys family (who were recognized at halftime), Rejniak encouraged each Bengal coach and player to win Saturday to get to the playoffs!  Class act by both coaches this weekend under difficult circumstances for everyone, and especially a visiting team!

I'm honored to be part of the SUNYAC fellowship like the 1 we have here fellas.  Honored and proud to know all of you!

#playforbradley!!!!

In the SUNYAC family vein, before last night's Plattsburgh/Geneseo hockey game, Plattsburgh presented a check to Geneseo for $1500 as a donation to the Geneseo Volunteer Fire Department in honor of Matthew Hutchinson murdered earlier this year.  It's been a rough year across the SUNY family, but as with any stong family, the adversity has only made us stronger.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2016, 09:10:32 PM
Quote from: spwood on February 21, 2016, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2016, 02:02:54 PM

Much thanks All-Time. I must admit, the Sunyac family has never been stronger. After game Oneonta coach Medici wished Bengal coaches the best of luck and encouraged Bengals coaches to " go get em" in the playoffs!! Friday night, before tip-off, New Paltz coach Rejniak walked down to Bengals bench, and offered Bengal coaches condolences and mentioned how tough a year it's been for all of Sunyac. After game ( which was attended by over 2,000 people and every media outlet in WNY), along with Bradleys family (who were recognized at halftime), Rejniak encouraged each Bengal coach and player to win Saturday to get to the playoffs!  Class act by both coaches this weekend under difficult circumstances for everyone, and especially a visiting team!

I'm honored to be part of the SUNYAC fellowship like the 1 we have here fellas.  Honored and proud to know all of you!

#playforbradley!!!!

In the SUNYAC family vein, before last night's Plattsburgh/Geneseo hockey game, Plattsburgh presented a check to Geneseo for $1500 as a donation to the Geneseo Volunteer Fire Department in honor of Matthew Hutchinson murdered earlier this year.  It's been a rough year across the SUNY family, but as with any stong family, the adversity has only made us stronger.

Plus k spwood!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2016, 11:22:22 PM
Quote from: spwood on February 21, 2016, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2016, 02:02:54 PM

Much thanks All-Time. I must admit, the Sunyac family has never been stronger. After game Oneonta coach Medici wished Bengal coaches the best of luck and encouraged Bengals coaches to " go get em" in the playoffs!! Friday night, before tip-off, New Paltz coach Rejniak walked down to Bengals bench, and offered Bengal coaches condolences and mentioned how tough a year it's been for all of Sunyac. After game ( which was attended by over 2,000 people and every media outlet in WNY), along with Bradleys family (who were recognized at halftime), Rejniak encouraged each Bengal coach and player to win Saturday to get to the playoffs!  Class act by both coaches this weekend under difficult circumstances for everyone, and especially a visiting team!

I'm honored to be part of the SUNYAC fellowship like the 1 we have here fellas.  Honored and proud to know all of you!

#playforbradley!!!!

In the SUNYAC family vein, before last night's Plattsburgh/Geneseo hockey game, Plattsburgh presented a check to Geneseo for $1500 as a donation to the Geneseo Volunteer Fire Department in honor of Matthew Hutchinson murdered earlier this year.  It's been a rough year across the SUNY family, but as with any stong family, the adversity has only made us stronger.

That was a nice gesture by the Plattsburgh Hockey Team. I'm sure the Geneseo Volunteer Fire Department,  a place where Matthew spent a lot of his free time, welcomed the donation and will put it to good use, in his memory.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 22, 2016, 09:01:00 AM
Honored to be part of a wonderful group of Gentlemen representing one of the best conferences in the Country.
Thanks for accepting a rookie like himself into the family.
Love to read the fantastic posts each and everyday.
Looking forward to a great finish up in Magicmans Memorial Hall
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2016, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: All-Time on February 22, 2016, 09:01:00 AM
Honored to be part of a wonderful group of Gentlemen representing one of the best conferences in the Country.
Thanks for accepting a rookie like himself into the family.
Love to read the fantastic posts each and everyday.
Looking forward to a great finish up in Magicmans Memorial Hall

Plus K to you and all the guys on the past couple of pages ( Bengalsrule, jdex, pg04, amh63, with age, scooterman, and spwood). It has been a good year for the SUNYAC board. A lot more conversation than past years. You were a big reason why. We hope you won't be a 0ne and Done guy. Bengalsrule and I have seen quite a few of those over the years. Fair weather fans. We've been here whether our teams were 8-18 or 27-3 because that's what a fan does. You seem to be one of the better fans that Oneonta has in their corner...even when you no longer had the big rooting interest you had for the previous 4 years. ;)  I'll get that karma figure into double figures for you tomorrow. ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 22, 2016, 12:30:25 PM
Some thoughts while trying to figure out how my Bengals will stop Clifton Lyerly.................

All SUNYAC Candidates - Buffalo State version

There are 5 players who are ranked in top 10 of 6 "SUNYAC Only" Stats categories. 2 of those 6 are ....

Nico Mclean - 6th in rebounds, 10 in ft%, 2nd in assists, 5th in assist turnover, 1st in steals and 6th in mins played. Nico finished ranked 1/2 in steals and assists, a rare combo. (Only other player in the past 5 plus years to finish 1st and /or 2nd in both assists and steals was C. Manning of Plattsburgh- twice). Mclean was also 15th leading scorer in SUNYAC! 

Mike Henry - 10th in scoring, 3rd in rebounds, 1st in fg%, 9th in assists, 7th in steals and 10th in mins played! Only Plattsburghs K. Richardson (most likely POY candidate) had a better fg% & rebound combo (1st in rebounds and 2nd in fg%) than Henry's (3rd in rebounds and 1st in fg%)!  Mike Henry is the only front court players to be in the top 10 in assists !

also

Jordan Glover  Although Jordan has been out injured for the past 2 weeks, his stats are still SUNYAC worthy. Jordan is 1 of only 8 players with at least 5 - top 10 rankings! 6th ft%, 5th assists, 2nd in Assists to turnover ratio, 2nd in steals per game and 8th in minutes! Only Decker (Geneseo) and Sortino (Oswego) had more top 10  rankings for pt guard position!

Lovell Smith top 10 in 4 categories 8th in scoring, 4th in fg%, 8th in blocks and 8th in steals. Only Plattsburgh's K. Richardson had a better blocks/steals ratio (4th blocks & 6th steals), than Lovell's (8th in  blocks/8th in steals) Note : There are only 10 players in SUNYAC that are ranked in top 10 in 4 or more categories!

#playforbradley
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 22, 2016, 12:32:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 22, 2016, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: All-Time on February 22, 2016, 09:01:00 AM
Honored to be part of a wonderful group of Gentlemen representing one of the best conferences in the Country.
Thanks for accepting a rookie like himself into the family.
Love to read the fantastic posts each and everyday.
Looking forward to a great finish up in Magicmans Memorial Hall

Plus K to you and all the guys on the past couple of pages ( Bengalsrule, jdex, pg04, amh63, with age, scooterman, and spwood). It has been a good year for the SUNYAC board. A lot more conversation than past years. You were a big reason why. We hope you won't be a 0ne and Done guy. Bengalsrule and I have seen quite a few of those over the years. Fair weather fans. We've been here whether our teams were 8-18 or 27-3 because that's what a fan does. You seem to be one of the better fans that Oneonta has in their corner...even when you no longer had the big rooting interest you had for the previous 4 years. ;)  I'll get that karma figure into double figures for you tomorrow. ;D

Ditto to what magicman said.

P.s. All-time....Double digits karma has arrived!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2016, 02:49:21 PM
SUNYAC teams in the Regional rankings might have been helped out a bit by NYU and Rochester both losing yesterday. NYU can't win the UAA automatic bid so they can only go dancing with a Pool C bid. Rochester will play Emory for a...winner take all... automatic NCAA bid next Saturday. Both teams currently 10-3 in the UAA. NYU with an 8-5 conference mark is at Brandeis, a team they beat 69-67 when they met in NY. NYU is tied with Chicago for 3rd place but holds the tiebreaker solely for bragging rights since there is no conference tournament. Chicago needs to win their final game and hope NYU loses to Brandeis to actually finish ahead of NYU in the conference's final standings.

Even if Rochester loses another game I think they will still be ranked #2 in the East, ahead of any SUNYAC team in the final rankings, if Plattsburgh wins the SUNYAC title, because all remaining YAC teams will also have another loss in the conference tournament.

So we need to root for Rochester to beat Emory and St. John Fisher to win the Empire 8 tournament so both those teams secure automatic bids. That way another SUNYAC team will be at the head of line in the East hoping for a PooL C bid. That will still be determined by how many conference leaders actually win their conference's automatic bids. A lot of upsets will probably mean no additional YAC team will get in.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2016, 05:29:08 PM
Congratulations to Lovell Smith who was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for his 2 huge games over the weekend. It was the 2nd time that Lovell was chosen as the POTW this season.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

Lovell Smith, Buffalo State
Buffalo, NY / McKinley

Smith averaged 31.0 points in a pair of wins to help Buffalo State secure a playoff berth on the final day of the regular season. Smith scored 35 points to go with eight rebounds and seven steals in Friday's 94-79 win over New Paltz. He followed that up with 27 points in Saturday's 96-86 win against Oneonta. Smith shot 63.6 percent (28 of 44) from the field in the two games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 22, 2016, 10:07:05 PM
Congrats to Lovell! The team did Bradley Proud this weekend...

Quote from: magicman on February 22, 2016, 02:49:21 PM
SUNYAC teams in the Regional rankings might have been helped out a bit by NYU and Rochester both losing yesterday. NYU can't win the UAA automatic bid so they can only go dancing with a Pool C bid.

Darn NYU and their phony schedule! Of course I only care because of the futures tournament...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2016, 10:29:53 PM
The new D3hoops Top 25 Poll has been released and Plattsburgh State moves up 2 spots to #21 and has 149 points, a gain of 89 points over last week.

Lancaster Bible is still #15 even though their point total went down by 24 points to 260 from last week's season high of 284.

Rochester and NYU, who were tied in the Others Receiving Votes category last week at #26 with 43 points each, both slid  down in the poll with losses last week. Rochester is now #31 with only 11 points and NYU with just 7 points is now #35.

St John Fisher, after a 2-0 week and claiming the regular season crown in the Empire 8, is back in the poll with 8 points, just ahead of NYU in the #34 spot.

No other team in the East Region is mentioned.

Here's a link to the complete poll:       http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week11
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 23, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
Do I seem like a one and done guy? ;)
I have thoroughly enjoyed getting to know you guys this past season.
Plus I have Lawrence Coleman and Mike McElroy back next season for the Red Dragons.
Maybe just Maybe they can make it back to the playoffs next season.
It was an epic fall for my Oneonta Red Dragons, would have never thought in a million years this team which came out 5-1 would go 4-8 the rest of the way in conference.
Still scratching my head on that one.
It just might be a Buffalo State vs Plattsburgh final.
Enjoy the playoffs
I certainly will be watching




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2016, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 23, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
Do I seem like a one and done guy? ;)
I have thoroughly enjoyed getting to know you guys this past season.
Plus I have Lawrence Coleman and Mike McElroy back next season for the Red Dragons.
Maybe just Maybe they can make it back to the playoffs next season.
It was an epic fall for my Oneonta Red Dragons, would have never thought in a million years this team which came out 5-1 would go 4-8 the rest of the way in conference.
Still scratching my head on that one.
It just might be a Buffalo State vs Plattsburgh final.
Enjoy the playoffs
I certainly will be watching

No, you do not seem like a one and done guy, however players graduate and the closeness a person  feels for the program becomes more distant as that happens. Then life gets in the way and the visits to the website become less frequent and ultimately they stop altogether. I'm glad you won't be riding off into the sunset. 8-)

I was surprised when you said that Mikey McElroy will be back. The roster lists him as a senior and I didn't realize that he had another year of eligibility left. Glad to hear that. I'll get to visit with him at least one more time and tell him how many points he'll lose by when he plays the Cardinals up here next year. ;D

It was a disappointment I'm sure, for the players to miss out on the playoffs after such a great start. That's the nature of our league though. There are always a bunch of good teams fighting it out till the final game. It's too bad that they changed the format from 8 teams making the playoffs to just 6 teams. We generally have 7 or 8 teams that are capable of winning the tournament. We need to get more basketball coaches to become  AD's so they can be change it back to an 8 team tournament.

Having McElroy and Coleman back next year is a good start. They are both all conference caliber players. It won't surprise me to see them back in the tournament next year.

Two big games tonight. Should be good viewing.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 23, 2016, 02:40:26 PM
Love College Hoops especially the SUNYAC.
I have been following the SUNYAC for years.

Yes With Coleman and McElroy the Oneonta Red Dragons have a great start for the 2016-2017 season.
If I could borrow your Magic Wand for a quick second and give them the Magic Spell I think that will do the trick to get the Red Dragons back into the playoffs next season.

This league is one of the most competitive conferences in the country, on any given night if YOU DON'T BRING IT, your going home a loser.

2 Great matchups tonight. Both games should go down to the wire.

Love Oswego over Geneseo and Buffalo State over Brockport

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2016, 05:27:37 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 23, 2016, 11:14:45 AM
It just might be a Buffalo State vs Plattsburgh final.
Enjoy the playoffs

All time, I'm reminded now why I have enjoyed the majority of your post...and predictions!!!  I "bummed" a ride with a few "friends" to the Brockport game about 30 mins away from the gym that has seen more Bengals seasons end than any other in my 8+ years of watching Buff State ball.  Hoping to end that trend!

#playforbradley
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2016, 07:00:05 PM
Tuesday  February 23rd   Two Big Playoff Games


Buffalo State        Brockport        7:00 PM

The Bengals have renewed life and their hopes for an NCAA berth are still alive. They also have a reason to keep their season alive that's bigger than a basketball game. The Golden Eagles hold a big edge in this rivalry with a 10-2 record in the last 12 games. The good news for the Bengals is both of those wins have come at Brockport.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a slim 3 point favorite here and I think this game will be a barnburner. Hard to pick against Brockport at home though so I have them winning by a 79-75 final score.


SUNY Geneseo        Oswego State        7:00 PM

Oswego is in a nice position after a slow start to conference play. Getting a home game, when it looked for a while they may be the odd team out, is a big accomplishment over the latter part of the season.

These teams are 11-11 over their last 22 meetings but in the 2 times they have met recently in the playoffs, the Lakers have come away with the win. Tonight they are 3 point favorites to do so again. I think the Lakers are a stronger team than the Knights and see them winning this game by a 76-71 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2016, 07:34:50 PM
Geneseo leads Oswego by a 33-28 score at the break.

Justin Ringen with 14 points and 9 rebounds at the break. Kevin Crockett with 5. No John Decker tonight for the Knights as the 2nd leading scorer on the team must be injured.

Kyle Coveley with 10 points and Dustin Pond with 7 lead the Lakers.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2016, 07:40:55 PM
Brockport ahead of Buffalo State  by a narrow 38-34 score at the half.

Hamed Shamseldin and Levi Pace with 7 each for the Golden Eagles.

Lovell Smith with 10 points and 6 rebounds to lead Buff State. Mike Henry with 8 points and 3 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2016, 08:28:28 PM
Oswego defeats Geneseo by a 75-59 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2016, 08:51:24 PM
Brockport edges Buffalo State by an 82-78 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2016, 08:57:35 PM
SUNYAC semifinals are set for Friday night in Plattsburgh :

#3 Brockport State   vs  #2 Cortland State    5:30 PM

#4 Oswego State  at   #1 Plattsburgh            7:30 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 23, 2016, 09:41:09 PM
Toughest ride home is always the last one of the season.  Today is no different. Good luck to Brockport, Owsego, Cortland and Plattsburgh!!

Go SUNYAC!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 24, 2016, 12:45:39 AM
Finally we get a scenario where the games go according to seeding.  If its any consolation Bengals my hometown high school took it on the chin in your arena tonight so I can feel your chagrin.. :(   Guess I'll temporarily have to become a Cardinal fan  :o   Must admit when our Magicman consistently shows how we have a "beast from the East" when it comes to fantasy d3 leagues it does rather endear you! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2016, 02:17:17 PM
Final public regional rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/24/third-ncaa-regional-ranking/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2016, 04:10:22 PM
The latest regional rankings for the East Region.

#1 Plattsburgh State
#2 Rochester
#3 NYU
#4 St. John Fisher
#5 Oswego State
#6 Geneseo State

Putting NYU in 3rd place is a laughing matter. They probably wouldn't even make our playoffs if they were in the SUNYAC. The NCAA wants to reward a team that schedules losing team after losing team in their non-conference schedule. That sends a wrong message. 

So how does NYU leapfrog over Oswego? Last week NYU was in 6th place Oswego was 5th, and Fisher wasn't ranked. So Oswego goes 1-1 in the past week, beating Geneseo who was ranked #3 in last week's East Regional Rankings and losing to Cortland who is unranked and in 2nd place in the SUNYAC. NYU goes 1-1 beating Chicago who was ranked #6 in the Central Regional Rankings and loses to Washington University who is unranked and in 5th place in the UAA conference. Oswego has a better SOS .532 to .514 for NYU. They also have a better regional record 4-3 to NYU's 3-3. So again I ask...How does NYU jump over Oswego? Something is rotten in Denmark. :P

Oswego, Geneseo, Brockport, Cortland and Buffalo State  could all be 19-5 if they only had to play 14 conference games and scheduled the cupcakes in the non-conference portion of their schedule that NYU did. Now, because of this week's Regional Rankings, if NYU loses their final game and Oswego loses in the YAC semis or championship game, then NYU will still be ranked ahead of them. Then if Plattsburgh State, Rochester, and St. John Fisher all get automatic bids, NYU will be first in line from the East Region to get an at large bid. NYU has an easier game this weekend because they aren't playing in a conference tournament (how convenient the UAA doesn't have a conference tournament...this prevents the teams behind the conference champ from all picking up another loss) or facing one of the tougher teams in the UAA. They are playing a regular season game against the last place team in their conference. Oswego has to play the #1 team in the SUNYAC and the East Region, Plattsburgh State, on the road. Should they win that game, they will then have to play the #2 or #3 seed in the SUNYAC to win the automatic bid. A close loss by Oswego, to any of the teams they face, is, in my opinion, better than a win by NYU over a 3-10 team in their conference. The SUNYAC got the short end of the stick last year...good chance the same thing will happen again this year. ::)  :(           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2016, 04:29:21 PM
Well just as an FYI... NYU is 19-5 with a .514 SOS and 3-3 vRRO.
Oswego is 18-7 with a .532 SOS and a 4-3 vRRO.

First off, not a big enough spread in the SOS (.018) to wash out the two game difference between the two (losses)... so Oswego's WL is hurting them in the comparison more than NYU's SOS (which being above .500 is notable).

The 3-3 vRRO versus the 4-3 is more than just a record thing. They will look at who teams beat and where they are ranked. There is also a common opponent: NYU has beaten Rochester (and lost to them) and so has Oswego.

I bet dollars to donuts the committee went even further into secondary criteria and started driving as far into the data as they could to break down some of these things. I also know that when they basically are tied - they will go with WL.

I am not arguing that NYU SHOULD be that high... I am just showing some comparisons.

Also worth noting... the committee doesn't tend to look at only two teams and rank according to those two teams. They usually are comparing multiple teams at the same time. All of them have data in favor of themselves and they start to slot teams the best they can at that point.

And by the way, I think the last week showed you that NYU losing to Brandeis this week might not necessarily keep them ahead of Oswego in that regard. The vRRO will adjust to these rankings... AND it will readjust one more time when the final rankings are done - the committee will get the final rankings, redo the vRRO one last time, and make adjustments with that new data as they see fit.

There are a lot of moving parts here. I wouldn't assume an NYU loss will keep them ahead of Oswego if the Lakers lose as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2016, 02:51:58 AM
Tuesday Night Recap

Oswego State 75 Geneseo State 59

Trying to pick a winner of this game was a difficult choice but I had to go with the Lakers because of their late season success and the emergence of Mykelle Krecko in the paint. I had the Lakers winning a close game by a 76-71 final score. I didn't know that the Knights would be without the services of John Decker. Justin Ringen and Decker have been Geneseo's 1-2 punch all season long. If you take the D out of the R&D department, there's no way that the Knights were going to win this game. I would have predicted a 76-60 score if I knew Decker was MIA. I had Oswego's total within a point though and on the winning end.

The Lakers were behind for most of the first half, trailing by as many as 8 points and often by 2 possessions. Oswego never let them get too far in front however, despite poor shooting from Brian Sortino (1x8), Alex Rawa (1x6) and Keith Tyson (1x4). Justin Ringen was the big gun for the Knights as he nailed 4 threes, grabbed 9 rebounds and wound up with 14 points in the period. Kyle Covely kept the Lakers close by scoring 10 points and Dustin Pond added 7. 

Down 30-22, Oswego got back to back 3's from Covely and Rawa to make it 30-28 with 2:25 left in the half, but Conner Keenan got a layup and 1 to make it 33-28 with 2:08 left. Neither team could put another point on the board for the rest of the period.

The Lakers must have got a good halftime speech from Coach Leone, because after Geneseo's Kevin Crockett opened the 2nd half with a 3 pointer to make it an 8 point lead, Oswego ripped off a 24-1 run. That's not a typo...the Lakers scored 24 points, with 21 of them unanswered after a Geneseo free throw. I think that's the largest run I've witnessed this year and I've watched a heck of a lot of basketball games. Alex Rawa started things off with two more three pointers to answer Crockett's threeball. Then Mykelle Krecko and Keith Tyson got in the act as they traded baskets. Krecko made a layup and Tyson drained a 3 pointer. Then he made a layup followed by another Krecko inside move and score. Brian Sortino followed with a jumper and Rawa buried another triple. Tyson and Sortino then got back to back layups on drives to the hoop. There was 11:14 left in the game, the score was 52-37 and the Lakers had turned an 8 point deficit into a 15 point lead. The Knights were reeling.

Kevin Crockett finally ended the Oswego downpour with a pair of free throws and the Knights' Jon Cohen swished a three pointer. Geneseo would narrow the gap a bit further when Crockett scored inside, Cohen hit once again from downtown and Kevin Zabransky scored on a layup. The Knights had cut the lead to 54-49 with 8 minutes to play, but that was as close as they could get. Brian Sortino finally found his shot and buried a 3 pointer. Krecko hit 1 of 2 from the line, Sortino made a layup and then drained another trifecta. 2 more Krecko free throws were followed by another Sortino bomb and then a layup. Sortino had scored 13 points in a 5 minute stretch and this game was over. The score was 70-58 with 2:44 left on the clock. Sortino made another 3 point shot with 1:07 left and after both teams missed their final shots the Knights surrendered and dribbled the clock out.

Sortino ended up as the game's leading scorer with 23 points and 20 of those came in the 2nd half. He also had a team high 5 assists. Keith Tyson had 13 points and 5 rebounds. Alex Rawa had 12 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Kyle Covely had 10 points and 7 rebounds, getting all those points in the first half, as he waited for the other shooters to heat up. Mykelle Krecko was a force in the paint as he scored 7 points, had 6 rebounds, 5 blocks and 3 assists. Dustin Pond had 7 points and 4 rebounds in 10 minutes of court time.

Justin Ringen led the Knights with a double-double of 19 points and 10 rebounds. Kevin Crockett had 11 points, 5 rebounds, with 3 assists, while Jon Cohen added 9 points off the bench, hitting 3 of 4 shots from long range.

Geneseo's season will end with a 17-9 overall record. The NCAA won't come calling with 9 losses.

Oswego improves to 19-7 and will meet Plattsburgh State in the semifinals Friday night in Plattsburgh at 7:30. The Lakers have to like their chances, after winning in Memorial Hall in their last 2 visits there. This will be the rubber match between the 2 teams.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2016, 04:23:11 AM
Tuesday Night Recap

Brockport State 82  Buffalo State 78

With 1:48 to go in this game the score was 75-71 in favor of Brockport and I thought the chances of the Golden Eagles winning by a 79-75 final score was actually possible. That was the score I predicted, but the foul parade started early, and each team scored 7 more points in the short time left. Still I was only off 3 points on each team's total and had the margin of victory exactly right.

The teams traded baskets early on and after a few ties and lead changes the Golden Eagles began to assert themselves and gradually gained the upper hand going in front by a 17-9 score with 11:19 left in the period. Brockport maintained a lead over the next 5 minutes until the Bengals caught them and tied the score at 23 apiece with 6:56 left, on a Jordan Chateau layup. Port scored 8 unanswered points to go back in front but Buffalo State would only trail by 4, 38-34 at the break.

The 2nd half was  two teams slugging it out from start to finish. It didn't take long for the Bengals to turn things around and grab the lead. They outscored Brockport 7-2 at the start of the period to gain a lead for the first time since the score was 5-4 in the first half. Over the next 13 minutes the scored would be tied 5 times and the lead would change 6 times. Still tied at 67 each with 5 minutes left in the game, Brockport went ahead on a Clifton Lyerly layup. Each team went to the line making 1 of 2 and then Hamed Shamsldine hit a pair from the stripe to put Brockport up by 4 at 72-68 with 3:22 to play. The Bengals got nothing on their next 2 possessions and that would be costly as the Golden Eagles got another free throw from Lyerly plus a dunk from Olusola Adeniran. That made the score 75-68 with under 2 minutes left. A 3 point play by Nico McLean cut it to 4 points, but the Bengals had to foul the only guy that got the inbounds passes, Shamseldin, and he made the pay, by making 7 of 8 free throws down the stretch. The Bengals missed a big opportunity when Mike Henry's 2 free throws cut the lead to 77-75 with 1:09 remaining. Brockport failed to score on their next possession and The Bengals went to the line with a chance to tie the game but only made 1 of 2 with 53 seconds to go. The Bengals needed a stop and after playing good D for 22 seconds Shamseldin was fouled and made 2 more. Down 3 after that trip to the line, Buff State missed a game tying 3 pointer and fouled Shamseldin again. He made 1 of 2 to make it a 2 possession game and after a quick Bengal basket, Shamseldin went to the line 1 final time with 3 seconds left. He hit another pair to make the final score 82-78.

Shamseldin came off the bench to lead the Golden Eagles with 24 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.             
Olusola Adeniran had 13 points 8 rebounds and 2 blocks. Clifton Lyerly had 11 points, 7 rebounds, 7 assists and 2 steals. Devonn Gavin had 10 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists. Marcus Blythers had 6 points, 6 rebounds, 3 blocks and 1 assist in 20 minutes off the bench.

Lovell Smith led the Bengals with 26 points to capture scoring honors. He also had 7 rebounds and 1 assist. Mike Henry had 18 points and 8 rebounds. Nico McLean filled up the stat sheet with 17 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

The bad news is the Bengals season comes to an end with a respectable 15-11 record. The good news is most of this team will be back including all 5 starters (Jordan Glover who missed the last few games with an injury is normally a starter) and 9 of their top 10 rotation players. Next year could be their year.

Brockport will move on to face #2 Cortland in the first semifinal game taking place at 5:30 on Friday evening in Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall. The Golden Eagles improve their overall record to 17-9. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on February 25, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
Barnburner time in the North Country!!  Go Cards!! :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 26, 2016, 02:00:29 PM
Memorial Hall will be Rocking tonight.

Brockport over Cortland

Magicman's Cardinals over Oswego

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 03:29:50 PM
Come on Plattsburgh, do good for the conference and let someone else win the A  :D.

I know I know.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2016, 04:28:20 PM
SUNYAC Final Four   The Best Weekend of the Year  at Plattsburgh State

February 26th

Semifinal #1     #3 Brockport  vs  #2 Cortland        5:30 PM  at Plattsburgh

The Golden Eagles split their 2 games with Cortland this year with each team winning on their home court. With a little luck Brockport could have been the #2 seed instead of the #3 seed but at this point it doesn't really matter since both teams are in the semis and it's a neutral court. These teams have played 12 times in the past 6 years and the record in the series is 6-6.

Both teams with records that place them just outside the chance of a possible at large bid to the NCAA tournament. Brockport with 9 losses already, can't afford to lose another game. Their only shot at the NCAA tournament is to win the automatic bid. Cortand is in slightly better shape but another loss will give them a 19-8 record or 20-8 if they win today and lose tomrrow. Their SOS is not very good and they will be a bubble team but I think their chances are slim of getting a bid. Like Brockport I think they have to win the YAC tournament to keep playing.

The teams are both coming into the game with some nice wins and Cortland just handed Brockport a narrow loss a week ago. The oddsmakers however favor Brockport in this game by a 4 point spread. I like the Golden Eagles to win this game as well as they seem to have their full lineup back and getting 25 minutes from Hamed Shamseldin will be better than the limited minutes he played in the last matchup. Brockport wins this one by a 79-76 final score.     


Semifinal #2      #Oswego State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM

Once again like last year these teams meet for a 3rd time. Last year the Cardinals won the first 2 but dropped the most important one that led to an Oswego dance party, while Plattsburgh stayed home. The Cardinals have had a year to stew about that one. This year the teams split their regular season meetings, each winning on the other's home court. Over the past 12 games these teams have went 6-6.

Plattsburgh with a 21-4 record and a national ranking of #21 in the D3hoops Top 25 poll is a lock to get an NCAA bid this year even if they lose the SUNYAC tournament. They are the #1 ranked team in the East Region. Oswego is #5 in the East Region and with a 19-7 record is squarely on the bubble for a Pool C bid. A loss today would give them a 19-8 record which is exactly what Plattsburgh State had last year after they lost to the Lakers in the SUNYAC Championship game. That 19-8 mark wasn't good enough to get them in last year. This year might be a different story because there are so many teams with 7, 8, or 9 losses.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 4 point favorite favorite in this one. After losing to the Lakers in Memorial Hall the last two times they have met, I think the Cardinals will put a halt to that winning streak, today. Plattsburgh isn't satisfied with a regular season crown, they want that SUNYAC Championship that the Lakers denied them last year. Plattsburgh wins this one by an 85-80 final score.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 03:29:50 PM
Come on Plattsburgh, do good for the conference and let someone else win the A  :D.

I know I know.  ;D

That would certainly mean a double entry from the YAC into the Big Dance.  Sometimes I almost think that would be best, but then I think of the guys I've followed and gotten to know over the past 4 years and how much a SUNYAC title would mean to them. I have to hope they can get it done this year. Last year we went that route (winning the regular season and losing the Championship) and got burned and had to watch the NCAA tournament instead of playing in it. That left a bad taste for a long time. Hoping to get rid of it this weekend. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 05:27:03 PM
I'd never expect you to root against Plattsburgh, of course. Right now hoping that the Golden Eagles can make it to tomorrow. The Pool C board has them as a long shot and I certainly believe it's even worse than that. I wonder if a loss tonight by Oswego would drop them from bubble to longshot as well.

I guess we have to let the games play out!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 05:30:58 PM
Is there just audio and no video? I just get a black screen and audio.

Edit: Nevermind, I see it now. Although it has Brockport vs. Plattsburgh on the Scoreboard. Whoops!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 05:58:24 PM
I'd request Magicman to get in view of the camera with a sign that says "Hi PG04" but a) he'd never see this before the game is over and b) LOL.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 06:07:24 PM
Brockport leads Cortland 39-32 at halftime. It's been a spirited battle so far. Adeniran scored 11 and Lyerly and Shamseldin both put in 8 points. Estarfaa has 10 for Cortland.

Brockport shot 64% from the field and 4/6 from 3 points. That will likely cool down a bit so they will have to dig in in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 06:31:16 PM
Story I've seen before, didn't hold the lead and now it's tied at 50 6 minutes into the 2nd half.

Edit: Now it's 58-50 Cortland. Outscoring Brockport 26-11 since Halftime  :'(

Edit 2: It's 71-69 Cortland with 4:29 left. Back and forth we go. Come on Pull this one out Brockport!

Edit 3: Cortland got it to 75-69 but Brockport stormed back and now it's tied at 75 with 51 seconds left. Timeout on the court, Great ending coming!

Cortland hits a 3 to make it 78-75. Darn it! Still 45 seconds left.

Brockport tied it at 78 but a ticky tack foul gives Cortland 2 free throws and the win 80-78. Brockport then turned it over and game over. Tough way to end the season for the Golden Eagles.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2016, 07:13:25 PM
80-78 Cortland ...How about that!!

Ticky-tack???  Ya gotta be kidding, right??? How about just a bad foul.

And ...quite the day for RDragons. Defending national champion baseball today in Carolina downs Marietta OH 7-4 and Methodist NC 5-3 to go to 4-0
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 07:37:09 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 26, 2016, 07:13:25 PM
80-78 Cortland ...How about that!!

Ticky-tack???  Ya gotta be kidding, right???

I wish I could go back and review it. My first reaction was anger because of the loss but I'll take back the ticky-tack comment because given time passing and no ability to review it I don't think it would be fair to classify as that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 07:40:20 PM
Also- I want to congratulate the Red Dragons on a spectacular win! They were down but came back so strong in the 2nd half. They were so good in the 2nd half that the winner of the 2nd game better watch out!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 26, 2016, 08:53:56 PM
Simply a terrific performance by both Cortland and Brockport. Locked horns and wouldn't be shaken .....either one.

RDragons' S. Martinez one of the main differences. Has 14 second half points with a pair of 3-pointers just when it appears the Eagles might take control. Finishes with 16 pts(6x7fg, 4x5 3s), 4 rebs in 24 minutes. C. Joseph another bulldog for the Corts. Sees 36 minutes of play and winds up with 14 pts(2x6 3s) and surprisingly was on the floor at the end despite rather known FT issues. Others were just as vital in a contest where both coaches are recognized for deploying extensive benches, and did. Both sides with clutch moments from various sources.

B. Estarfaa goes the distance for Cortland. Has 19 pts(4x9fg, 2x5 3s, 9x9ft). JP Reagan who true to his skills began getting more minutes as the season wore down has 14 pts(4x5fg, 6x6ft) 5 rebs in 31', and sr capt point guard TJ Hefele has 10 pts(3x6fg) in 34'. C. Lyerly in his usual Bport leader's cape with 18 pts(7x11fg, 4x5fg) 5 assts in 37'. H. Shamseldin finishes with 18 pts(7x9fg, 3x4 3s) 5 rebs in 30'; O Adeniran with 15 pts(6x7fg) in 26'; D. Gavin 11 pts(4x11fg, 3x5 3s).

Don't know if there was a conference game that matches the shooting by any two foes: Cortland 56% (24x43fg and 13x19 second half), 10x23 3s, 22x28ft; and Brockport 60% (30x50fg, 8x13 3s), 14x17ft and 19 assists with 7 steals. Winning numbers for either team on any other night! Corts had 23-22 board edge. Each side with 15 turnovers, certainly above the norm for CSt

As deep as this Cortland team is, don't know what Coach Span would've done with three capable big bodies had they been available. Hope it's next season we see 6-10 Z. Lydon, 6-7 J. Prendergast and 6-4 J. Cooper back on duty
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 09:29:32 PM
Oswego wins 81-74 and so bubble chaos ensues.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2016, 11:11:14 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 05:58:24 PM
I'd request Magicman to get in view of the camera with a sign that says "Hi PG04" but a) he'd never see this before the game is over and b) LOL.

You're right I wouldn't, but if they showed the Brockport bench area just 2 seconds before the National Anthem was played, I was the guy with the hat on shaking Coach Dunne's hand and wishing him good luck. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2016, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 07:37:09 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 26, 2016, 07:13:25 PM
80-78 Cortland ...How about that!!

Ticky-tack???  Ya gotta be kidding, right???

I wish I could go back and review it. My first reaction was anger because of the loss but I'll take back the ticky-tack comment because given time passing and no ability to review it I don't think it would be fair to classify as that.

I saw that foul quite well as it happened right in front of me. It was a foul, and jdex is right...it was just a bad foul. There was only 3 seconds left on the shot clock and Blair Estarfaa was out by the 3 point line, nowhere near the basket. The last thing you do is foul the guy with the shot clock winding down after playing solid defense for 27 seconds. Cortland won this game because Brockport made some questionable choices in the final 2 minutes, which I'll get into when I write up the game a bit later.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 26, 2016, 11:50:41 PM
I knew the Magicman would give his take on it and I accept that it was a foul at a really bad time. I agree there were some things on Brockport's end that really made me crazy.

I wonder if Cortland wins, could 3 get in? Oswego's numbers are the best of any team that isn't Plattsburgh. Should be interesting next couple of days.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 27, 2016, 08:09:54 AM
The Craziness continues in the SUNYAC.
Would have never picked these 2 teams midway through the season.
Cortland vs Oswego for the SUNYAC Championship.

The one great thing that comes out of this, is that the SUNYAC will have at least 2 teams in the Dance.

I have to give it to both teams and coaches. I sincerely apologize to the Oswego Lakers. After getting smacked by my Oneonta Red Dragons, I had them barely making the playoffs.
I have learned my lesson to let the season play out and not make any predictions after 1 game.
As far as Cortland is concerned they don't look like much on paper compared to some of the other SUNYAC rosters, but seem to keep all the games close and come up with huge shots at the end of games to close teams out.

What a Fantastic finish to the season.

I have to go with Brian Sortino and the Oswego Lakers today in the Championship game. Speaking of Clutch performances that kid is something else.

Enjoy the game today.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2016, 03:21:22 PM
SUNYAC Championship

#4 Oswego State vs #2 Cortland State       4:00 PM at Plattsburgh State

Both teams played great yesterday and down the stretch made the right decisions and got key baskets at the right time. For Oswego, it was a big 3 pointer from Brian Sortino with the Lakers clinging to a 69-68 lead. That made it a 2 possession game and the Cardinals couldn't overcome the deficit. Kyle Covley got loose inside( on an assist by himself according to the play by play ;D) on their next trip down and that was the ballgame.

Cortland got a huge 3 pointer from Joseph Carrell when the game was tied at 75 and the shot clock was winding down. A chance for a Brockport defensive stand became a 3 point deficit as Carrell drained the shot and even though the Golden Eagles came back to tie the game up on Hamed Shamseldin's 3 point play at the other end, it guaranteed the Red Dragons would have the chance for the final possession. That led to the Blair Estarfaa free throws that proved to be the game winners.

Cortland has had the Lakers number recently, as they have won both matchups this season and 3 in a row over the past 2 years. Previous to that the Lakers had won 4 in a row. Cortland is 6-4 in the last 10 meetings but the Lakers hold a 9-6 edge over the last 6 years. This one should be another memorable game.

No matter who wins the YAC Championship we will have 2 teams in the NCAA Tournament this year. If Cortland wins this game we could get 3 teams in because Oswego would still be alive for a Pool C bid. A loss here would give them a 20-8 overall record and I think that may be enough to get them in. It will really depend on how many upsets take place in the conferences that will only get 1 bid unless the top seed loses and has to get a Pool C bid to go dancing. If Cortland loses this game I don't think they will get a Pool C bid. Their record will be 19-8 which has been good enough on occasion, in the past, but they don't have a very good SOS which, I believe, will keep them out.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 2 point favorite in this one, despite the Red Dragons 2-0 record this year against Oswego. That may be why the Lakers are favored because of the old adage that says it's hard to beat a team 3 times in a season. Plattsburgh found that out last year as the Lakers won the 3rd meeting. Somehow I think they get it done today. Brian Sortino can take over a game when he has to and is seemingly unstoppable in key situations. I think the Lakers win this one by a 76-72 final score.

I'm rooting for the Red Dragons though because I'd like to see 3 SUNYAC teams in the NCAA tournament.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 27, 2016, 04:35:48 PM
Oswego 41, Cortland 30 at the half

Lakers in the period finish with a flourish to take charge. Krecko a BIG difference. Taking away RDragon driving game, and Corts are not matching Oswego outside shooting
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 04:46:13 PM
Oswego has really come on strong in the 2nd half of the conference season. They could be dangerous in the NCAA tournament (as a Pool C or a Pool A). Cortland needs another comeback! Hope it's an interesting 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2016, 05:17:43 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 04:46:13 PM
Oswego has really come on strong in the 2nd half of the conference season. They could be dangerous in the NCAA tournament (as a Pool C or a Pool A). Cortland needs another comeback! Hope it's an interesting 2nd half.

I agree!  Oswego really turned things around. Probably Leone's best coaching job at Oswego!  I'd be surprised if they didn't go far ( depending on today's results)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 05:26:14 PM
Cortland wins 77-74! What a comeback again! SUNYAC 3????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 27, 2016, 05:30:20 PM
Ya gotta believe!! SUNYAC Champions, 20-7

J. Morales sinks 3-pointer falling back from the right flank a few steps behind the arc against two charging Lakers to win it. Bucket comes at 0.4 on the Pburgh scoreboard. Morales takes rather wild pass from B. Estarfaa who was driving left down the lane and finding considerable traffic.  Winner follows  flurry of trey exchanges.  Trailing 67-60 with 4:30 left after 9-0 Oswego run,  Cortland's C. Joseph first of three straight 3-pointers gives his team 68-67 lead at 2:28. B. Sortino FTs for Oswego puts Lakers up. Joseph trey at 1:26 makes it 71-71. TJ Hefele from the right side lands a triple for a 74-71 Cortland advantage at 0:30. Laker K. Covley immediately responds at 0:24 to set up the climax. Sortino able to get off a final desperation bid -- don't know if if would have been allowed ........

Trailing by 11 at half, Dragons finally seize 52-51 lead on Estarfaa trey at 12:23. Resilient Oswego and Sortino pull switcheroo and Covley connects for 'three'. Joseph hoop and another Estarfaa trey lifts Dragons to the fore at 60-58. K. Tyson putback on OSt's next foray knots it. Oswego up at 7:10 to begin that 9-0 spurt.

The sophomore 6-6 Joseph named the tourney's mvp. Has 24 points(9x11fg, 6x8 3s) 6 rebs; Hefele 14 pts(5x11fg, 4x8 3s) and 7 assts; Estarfaa 12 in 40 minutes; JP Reagan 12 pts and 6 rebs in 32' and with 4 fouls and exiting at 6:45 before quick return when Lakers took momentum. Sortino  with 27 OSt markers(9x22fg, 3x12 3s) 8 assts in 40 minutes; Covley 19 pts(7x14fg, 5x9 3s); Tyson 12 pts in 39'; M. Candelario 6 rebs. A. Rawa scoreless (0x5fg) in 34'.  M. Krecko a force early but MIA thereafter with 6 rebs

Cortland from the field 27x57, Oswego 27x63. Corts make hay from the arc with a school-record 18 makes in 35 attempts to Lakers' 12x33. FTing has Corts 5x7, Oswego 8x10. OSt with 39-29 board edge, 11 offensive

Dragons win eight of their last nine, beating Brockport twice and Oswego twice in their last four outings. Sweep series vs. Lakers.

Picking against Cortland was common practice all season. And talk about a coaching job ....TSpan the Man!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 05:51:00 PM
It seems like every time I see Cortland they're making a comeback! A resilient bunch that definitely deserve to be the champions. I hope the prognosticators are right on the Pool C board because Oswego deserves a shot IMO in the tournament. Sortino, for one, has been awesome.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2016, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 27, 2016, 05:30:20 PM
Ya gotta believe!!

Senior TJ Hefele Sophomore James Morales sinks a 3-pointer falling back from the right flank against two charging Lakers to win it. Bucket comes at 0.4 on the Pburgh scoreboard. Hefele Morales takes a rather wild pass from B. Estarfaa who was driving left down the lane and finding considerable traffic. Hefele Morales winner follows  flurry of trey exchanges.  Trailing 67-60 with 4:30 left after 9-0 Oswego run,  Cortland's C. Joseph first of three straight 3-pointers gives his team 68-67 lead at 2:28. B. Sortino FTs for Oswego puts Lakers up. Joseph trey at 1:26 makes it 71-71. Hefele from the right side lands a triple for a 74-71 Cortland advantage at 0:30. Laker K. Covley immediately responds at 0:24 to set up the climax. Sortino able to get off a final desperation bid -- don't know if it would have been allowed ........

The sophomore Joseph named the tourney's mvp. Has 24 points, Hefele 14, Estarfaa 12. Sortino  with 27 OSt markers

Fixed it for you jdex. ;D I had a front row seat and it was nothing but net.  Young Morales likely hits the biggest shot of his career, so far. Great pass by Blair Estarfaa to find the open man with time running out and covered well by Oswego defenders.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 27, 2016, 06:27:36 PM
Wow ....thanks Magic!  Believe the call on the screen was Hefele ......... but you were there! Or call could (probably was) Morales ......anyway, quite the finish  ...

Morales with 6 pts on 2x3 3s in 18'.  In Friday's semi win key figure S. Martinez with 4x5 3s in the comeback second half. He had precisely two 3s for the season beforehand
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2016, 06:31:54 PM
SUNYAC All- Tournament Team.

MVP Carrell Joseph    Cortland State    Well deserved he hit huge shots both days and was 6x8 from downtown in today's game.

Brian Sortino            Oswego State   Would have been MVP if the Lakers had won the Title.

Kyle Covely              Oswego State

Kyle Richardson        Plattsburgh State

Blair Estarfaa           Cortland State

JP Reagan               Cortland State

Outstanding play from all of the athletes.  Three games this weekend and they all were barnburners. Disappointments for sure but the level of play was superb and I hope that we can get 3 teams to the Dance. I think that Plattsburgh, Cortland and Oswego all possess potential to advance to the Sweet 16. 

Coach Spanbauer said it best, as I was talking with him shortly after the game ended, "How fitting that the SUNYAC season should end on a 3 pointer with virtually no time on the clock".    Nuff said.  8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2016, 06:36:42 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 27, 2016, 06:27:36 PM
Wow ....thanks Magic!  Believe the call on the screen was Hefele ......... but you were there! Or call could (probably was) Morales ......anyway, quite the finish  ...


Yeah, Morales all the way, I was surprised he was taking the shot but Blair didn't have a lot of choices with time almost gone. Morales was open and Blair got it to him with a flourish. They don't even give Blair an assist on the play. ???

Here's a link to the play by play:

http://d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2015-16/boxscores/20160227_iokm.xml?view=plays
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 06:57:04 PM
Denison winning the NCAC drops everyone down a peg. Hopefully things don't keep Plinko-ing down into the 0 bucket.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2016, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 05:26:14 PM
Cortland wins 77-74! What a comeback again! SUNYAC 3????

Yes Sunyac 3 bids!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 27, 2016, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2016, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 05:26:14 PM
Cortland wins 77-74! What a comeback again! SUNYAC 3????

Yes Sunyac 3 bids!!!

Are we sure about this?  It would seem Rochester and Plattsburgh are going to keep Oswego away from the table for awhile.  Not a good day for the bubble...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 07:44:21 PM
Those who have "done the math" and rated the Pool C contenders (see the Pool C board under Multi-regional topics) suggest that Oswego is still in pretty good shape to this point. I think there would have to be a few more upsets to really put them in trouble.

I do take pause however given Plattsburgh's situation in previous year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 27, 2016, 07:51:55 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 07:44:21 PM
Those who have "done the math" and rated the Pool C contenders (see the Pool C board under Multi-regional topics) suggest that Oswego is still in pretty good shape to this point. I think there would have to be a few more upsets to really put them in trouble.

I do take pause however given Plattsburgh's situation in previous year.

The Lakers were #5 in the east on Wednesday.  Is one win over Plattsburgh worth that much?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 07:59:54 PM
Both tournament wins will be considered in the final rankings since Geneseo was also ranked.

Like I said I'm just going off what those in the other posts who have put in a lot of effort have computed.

Of course, this is subject to change if more favorites lose their conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2016, 08:52:47 PM
When I walked out of Memorial Hall a couple of hours ago I though that Oswego State stood a good chance of getting a Pool C bid and giving the SUNYAC conference 3 teams in the NCAA tournament.  Lots of things have went against us today in the overall picture as I discovered when I got to my office and pulled up todays results. Now I think the Lakers are a bubble team at best and may not even get to the table for consideration unless the Regional Rankings undergo a massive reboot when the committee meets tomorrow.

Plattsburgh State, the #1 ranked team in the East Region isn't about to lose that  position because they lost to Oswego on Friday night. They will be the 1st team from the East Region to sit at the table and should get a Pool C, at large bid, fairly early in the selection process. I'm guessing they will be somewhere around the 4th to 7th team awarded a Pool C bid.   

In the East Region we needed Rochester to win and gain the automatic bid for the UAA conference. That didn't happen as Rochester lost to Emory 84-75. Rochester will probably be the 2nd team from the East Region to sit at the table waiting for a Pool C bid.

We needed NYU to lose to Brandeis. They shouldn't be ranked ahead of Oswego (for that matter neither should Rochester, in my opinion as Oswego has a better record than Rochester and beat them head to head in Rochester) but for some strange reason NYU and Rochester are both ahead of Oswego. A loss would have helped but NYU beat the last place team in the UAA, Brandeis, by a 71-50 final score. They could be the 3rd team from the East waiting for a Pool C bid.

We needed St John Fisher to win and clinch the automatic bid from the Empire 8 conference. That didn't happen as Hartwick beat Fisher 93-91 to capture the automatic bid. Fisher was ranked ahead of Oswego in the last Regional Rankings, so they will probably be the 4th team from the East waiting for a Pool C bid.

This week, since the last set of NCAA rankings came out, Oswego beat the top team in the SUNYAC, which is also the top team in the Regional Rankings, Plattsburgh, before losing to the 2nd seeded Red Dragons of Cortland. Oswego went 2-1 for the week beating 2 regionally ranked opponents. (#6 Geneseo being the other one) Don't know what that will do to Oswego's ranking on the next set of regional rankings that comes out this week. We won't see those rankings to know if Oswego moved up or down. The NCAA chooses to keep them secret, which a lot of us aren't too happy about.

Geneseo will most likely drop out of the regional rankings and could be replaced by Cortland or Lancaster Bible.

Some hope for Oswego backers is that our numbers guru, KnightSlappy, who does his own sets of Regional rankings using NCAA guidelines, still thinks Oswego gets a Pool C bid. He projects Oswego as #3 in the Regional Rankings.  I certainly hope he's right because the Lakers could get a bid if they move up to the 3rd spot. If they stay at #5 though, there is absolutely no way the East Region will get 5 Pool C bids. I believe 3 is the most we will get and maybe only 2.

Here is a link to KnightSlappy's updated rankings:

http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/



     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 09:00:40 PM
I think Oswego could jump both Rochester and NYU. Neither team did anything to help their standing while the 2 wins versus regionally ranked will help Oswego. At least I think it should. NYU has no business being ahead of Oswego. The head-to head match-up with Rochester should also matter which makes things head scratching as Magicman said. But maybe they won't want three from the same conference.

I hadn't realized that Fisher also lost which does hurt things.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 09:00:40 PM
I think Oswego could jump both Rochester and NYU. Neither team did anything to help their standing while the 2 wins versus regionally ranked will help Oswego. At least I think it should. NYU has no business being ahead of Oswego. The head-to head match-up with Rochester should also matter which makes things head scratching as Magicman said. But maybe they won't want three from the same conference.

I hadn't realized that Fisher also lost which does hurt things.

pg04,

That's never stopped the NCAA before. The UAA had 4 teams a few years back. Easier for them because they have teams in so many different regions, they could conceivably have 2 or more teams sitting at the table at the same time. We can never have that kind of scenario. The NEWMAC conference had 4 teams just 2 years ago in 2013-14 when WPI, Babson, Springfield and MIT all got bids. One of them, MIT, was sent to Plattsburgh. They were soundly beaten by the Cardinals that year 76-53. In fact all 4 of the NEWMAC  teams were losers in the first round that year.

That same year, 3 teams from the SUNYAC made the tournament, Plattsburgh and Geneseo with Pool C bids and Brockport with the automatic bid.  Brockport lost All American Jon Ivy with a knee injury  that year with 3 games or so to go in the regular season. They would have made a decent run in the tournament with him but lost in triple overtime to a very good Morrisville team that made it to the Elite Eight that year. With Jon Ivy they would have beaten Morrisville and may have made it to the Final Four.

Four teams from the NESCSAC made it in last year...Amherst, Bates, Trinity and Wesleyan. It won't surprise me to see 4 more make it in this year. Amherst, Tufts, Trinity and Middlebury if they win tomorrow against the team formerly known as the Lord Jeffs.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
Always with the great info Magicman! Hopefully SUNYAC has enough "oomph" (so to speak) to push three into the tournament. I am excited that there are already two guaranteed. But I really do think the third deserves it too. But of course I'm biased  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2016, 12:11:01 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2016, 09:47:10 PM
Always with the great info Magicman! Hopefully SUNYAC has enough "oomph" (so to speak) to push three into the tournament. I am excited that there are already two guaranteed. But I really do think the third deserves it too. But of course I'm biased  ;D

Oswego definitely gets in. I predicted 3 bids at least 4 months ago. Oswego beat #1 east (Plattsburgh) not once , but twice in less than 2 weeks. Not much more they can do. Other then losing to Cortland they have not lost to another Yac team since 1/15 other than Geneseo. So losses to the Yac champ and 1 loss to East #2/3 (Geneseo) in their last 13?!. Here's to hoping that Oswego gets in. Damn all the other stuff. They deserve to get in. Period!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2016, 04:00:59 PM
As I said yesterday, Oswego will get in, if the East Region rankings get a makeover. I still don't understand how Rochester and NYU were ranked ahead of the Lakers when the last rankings came out. Now, beating Plattsburgh a second time should count for quite a bit more than some wins over a bunch of teams with losing records (NYU) and if you beat a team (Rochester) head to head in their house...well, that should be one in the Lakers favor as well. Oswego needs to jump back in front of the UAA teams when the hidden rankings are formulated later today.  I remain hopeful that what I said to several of the Oswego players as I left Memorial Hall yesterday will come to pass. I told Mykell Krecko, and Brian Sortino that I thought they were in the NCAA tournament despite losing the Championship game. Keep the faith, baby. :D Rooting hard for the 3 team parley....Plattsburgh, Cortland and Oswego.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 28, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
The breakdown of conferences on this site doesn't even mention Oswego as a candidate. That can't be a good sign... http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2015-16/conference-tournaments/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
Nice to see that the SUNYAC board has hit Page Number 500. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2016, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 28, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
The breakdown of conferences on this site doesn't even mention Oswego as a candidate. That can't be a good sign... http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2015-16/conference-tournaments/index

Pay no attention to those men behind the curtain.  :D  Listen to Bengalsrule and magicman instead. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 28, 2016, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2016, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 28, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
The breakdown of conferences on this site doesn't even mention Oswego as a candidate. That can't be a good sign... http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2015-16/conference-tournaments/index

Pay no attention to those men behind the curtain.  :D  Listen to Bengalsrule and magicman instead. 8-)

Plus K there magic!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 28, 2016, 10:55:14 PM
I do listen to both of you! Someone has to be the pessimist right?  ;D ;).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 01:26:02 AM
From what I was able to learn... the rankings where:

Plattsburgh
Oswego
NYU
Rochester
St. John Fisher
Cortland
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 01:26:35 AM
Quote from: pg04 on February 28, 2016, 10:55:14 PM
I do listen to both of you! Someone has to be the pessimist right?  ;D ;).

OK, it's now a matter of record. You are officially the SUNYAC pessimist from here on out. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 01:39:06 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 01:26:02 AM
From what I was able to learn... the rankings where:

Plattsburgh
Oswego
NYU
Rochester
St. John Fisher
Cortland

Thanks Dave,

I had a good feeling that Oswego was going to jump over St. John Fisher, NYU, and Rochester. It just made sense. I would have put Rochester ahead of NYU because Rochester would have a better record than NYU if they played that easy non-conference schedule that the Violets did. I was pretty sure that Cortland would crack the rankings as well since the SUNYAC champs usually are ranked. With the automatic bid in hand it didn't really matter but they deserved to be ranked.

So the East has to get 4 Pool C bids in order for Rochester to get in. That might be a stretch. It will be interesting to see which regions get short changed for that to happen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 01:40:55 AM
We have Rochester staying home - no bid for them.

But it was getting hairy at the end, so anything is possible.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 01:48:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 01:40:55 AM
We have Rochester staying home - no bid for them.

But it was getting hairy at the end, so anything is possible.

Everybody on the Pool C board was projecting both NYU and Rochester in. I said one or the other but not both. Bopol and Titan Q  had both teams in. Can't remember the last time the East got 4 teams in so I don't think it will happen.  As you said, anything is possible.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 29, 2016, 01:59:11 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 29, 2016, 01:26:35 AM
Quote from: pg04 on February 28, 2016, 10:55:14 PM
I do listen to both of you! Someone has to be the pessimist right?  ;D ;).

OK, it's now a matter of record. You are officially the SUNYAC pessimist from here on out.

It just comes natural to me- haha. Although I feel better after all this new information.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 29, 2016, 09:57:21 AM
Would be Great to get 3 teams in from the SUNYAC

They are all well deserving:
Cortland
Plattsburgh
Oswego

Fantastic year for the SUNYAC

The Magicman is one fascinating guy.
D3 Hoops should salute the Magicman.
The information he gathers and his insights to games really makes this the best Board around.
Thanks Magicman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 29, 2016, 09:57:21 AM
Would be Great to get 3 teams in from the SUNYAC

They are all well deserving:
Cortland
Plattsburgh
Oswego

Fantastic year for the SUNYAC

The Magicman is one fascinating guy.
D3 Hoops should salute the Magicman.
The information he gathers and his insights to games really makes this the best Board around.
Thanks Magicman

So says magicmans cousin!!! :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:39:21 PM
All Time,
Thank you for the kind words. I am just a devoted Division III basketball fan and I enjoy sharing my thoughts with the other great people, such as yourself, that come on this board, appreciating the same things I do.  8-)

It certainly helps to live in a city like Plattsburgh, where there is a D3 college. It's even better when they have a solid program that remains competitive year in and year out.

I hope the Cardinals, the Red Dragons, and Lakers can all do some damage in the upcoming NCAA Tournament and show the country how strong our conference was this year. 8-)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:40:11 PM
Plattsburgh is hosting. 1st round opponent is Fitchburg st (18-9)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:39:21 PM
All Time,
Thank you for the kind words. I am just a devoted Division III basketball fan and I enjoy sharing my thoughts with the other great people, such as yourself, that come on this board, appreciating the same things I do.  8-)

It certainly helps to live in a city like Plattsburgh, where there is a D3 college. It's even better when they have a solid program that remains competitive year in and year out.

I hope the Cardinals, the Red Dragons, and Lakers can all do some damage in the upcoming NCAA Tournament and show the country how strong our conference was this year. 8-)   

Damn no comeback from the magicman.  Oh well ...I tried!!!!!!!  I guess he's alright!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:42:22 PM
Cortland vs WPI..
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:34:58 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 29, 2016, 09:57:21 AM
Would be Great to get 3 teams in from the SUNYAC

They are all well deserving:
Cortland
Plattsburgh
Oswego

Fantastic year for the SUNYAC

The Magicman is one fascinating guy.
D3 Hoops should salute the Magicman.
The information he gathers and his insights to games really makes this the best Board around.
Thanks Magicman

So says magicmans cousin!!! :o :o :o :o

If All Time is my cousin, then you must be my nephew, cause I've answered a box full of your questions over the years. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:47:16 PM
I'm trying to get the show and can't bring it up. One pissed off dude here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
3 BIDS!!!!!!!!!  Oswego vs Delaware valley. I told you UNCLE magic that SUNYAC was at least a 3 bid conference!  Go Yac. Plattsburgh vs Oswego for national Championships!!

Congrats to

PLATTSBURGH

CORTLAND

OSWEGO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:50:24 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
3 BIDS!!!!!!!!!  Oswego vs Delaware valley. I told you UNCLE magic that SUNYAC was at least a 3 bid conference!  Go Yac. Plattsburgh vs Oswego for national Championships!!

Yeah but you say that every year, so one of these years (like this year) you get to be right. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:50:24 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
3 BIDS!!!!!!!!!  Oswego vs Delaware valley. I told you UNCLE magic that SUNYAC was at least a 3 bid conference!  Go Yac. Plattsburgh vs Oswego for national Championships!!

Yeah but you say that every year, so one of these years (like this year) you get to be right. ;D

At least I'm consistent...and right!!!!!!!!!! ;D :D :) ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 29, 2016, 12:51:54 PM
The Perfect Gift for the Magicman.
D3 Hoops just saluted you with Plattsburgh hosting.
It Doesn't get any better than that.

I will be pulling for all the SUNYAC teams to let the country know what a Great Conference it is.

Enjoy the DANCE
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:52:02 PM
I missed the entire selection show. The link to the show brought up the NCAA page but never the video.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 29, 2016, 12:56:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:50:24 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
3 BIDS!!!!!!!!!  Oswego vs Delaware valley. I told you UNCLE magic that SUNYAC was at least a 3 bid conference!  Go Yac. Plattsburgh vs Oswego for national Championships!!

Yeah but you say that every year, so one of these years (like this year) you get to be right. ;D

This is where I should take my role of pessimist  ;D. Glad 3 are in! Also, Magicman, if you want to be in the tourney draft league you better get over to the futures page quick haha.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 29, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Lancaster Bible received no favors in their placement. Tough draw against Wooster and then if they won that, Catholic (unless Catholic loses)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 29, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Lancaster Bible received no favors in their placement. Tough draw against Wooster and then if they won that, Catholic (unless Catholic loses)

The NEAC conference winner is always going to get a tough draw. It's rated as one of the 2 or 3 weakest conferences in the country, so they always face a team from a much stronger conference. The Chargers will give Wooster a hell of a game and it wouldn't surprise me to see them win and advance. They could make the Sweet 16.
     
Cortland against WPI should be a good game. I think Cortland has better shooters than WPI and should win if Blair Estrfaa, Carrell Joseph and company are firing on all cylinders. Cortland's shooters are as good as any team in the country. They have 5 guys on the floor almost all the time that can bury a 3 pointer. In the SUNYAC championship they had 18 threes from 6 different players. Not many teams can get that kind of production from behind the arc. If they win they will most likely have to face, SUNYAC nemisis, Amherst in the 2nd round. I can't see Husson knocking off the Lord Jeffs. Cortland will match up well with Amherst if they do meet up though, so the Red Dragons can prove a lot of people wrong if they can advance to the Sweet 16. I wouldn't bet against them doing so, they are a resilient bunch.

Plattsburgh State hosting is a magicman's delight. For the 3rd time is the last 4 years Plattsburgh has been selected to host. The Fitchburg State Falcons will be no pushover. They own some quality non-conference wins, most notably a win over the WPI team that Cortland has to play. The Falcons beat WPI 57-56 back on December 5th to knock the #13 ranked 7-0 Engineers (at the time) from the unbeaten ranks. So they are no strangers to playing a school from a bigger conference. They also beat Albertus Magnus 91-85. Albertus was the runner up to Johnson & Wales in the GNAC conference. They beat conference opponent Bridgewater State in both meetings 85-77 and 72-61. Brockport played Bridgewater State down in Florida over the Christmas break and beat them 100-95 but it took them 3 overtime periods to do so. I hope we can get by the Falcons and advance to the 2nd round. Plattsburgh will be missing one of their key players for the tournament which will be tough to overcome.

Plattsburgh stands a good chance to face Johnson & Wales in the next round if they get by Fitchburg State. Johnson & Wales may be rated as an underdog against Trinity but I think they can beat the Bantams. J & W has two very good players that can both light up the scoreboard. 6'3" Quarry Greenaway, who was recruited by Plattsburgh State, and 6'5" Tom Garrick average 26 and 22 ppg respectively. They are both guards and lead the team in rebounding as well. If we face Trinity it will be a rematch of an earlier game in the season, won by Plattsburgh 81-73. The Cardinals were without the services of Kyle Richardson in that game.

Oswego got a decent draw. They should win their game against Delaware Valley and then get Marietta in all probability. Don't think Gwynedd Mercy will defeat Marietta. Marietta will be a difficult matchup for the Lakers, as the Pioneers play in the always tough Ohio Athletic Conference. They won the regular season crown but lost in the championship game of the OAC tournament to John Carroll 87-85. Brockport was beaten by John Carroll the day after that triple overtime game against Bridgewater State, that I mentioned up above. The Golden Eagles were gassed and John Carroll did not play the day before like Port did, so they had a definite advantage over the Eagles going into that game. I think Oswego can certainly play with Marietta and no one can take over a game like Brian Sortino can. If he's on, the Lakers can hang with anybody.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 29, 2016, 03:38:39 PM
magicman:  Good luck to your Cardinals in the NCAA Tournament!

Upon further review of the Little East picks, what would have happened if I didn't pick the bonus yesterday at all?   ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 04:10:54 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 29, 2016, 03:38:39 PM
magicman:  Good luck to your Cardinals in the NCAA Tournament!

Upon further review of the Little East picks, what would have happened if I didn't pick the bonus yesterday at all?   ;D ;D

I was looking to see if you might make that decision because I considered it since "you don't lose if you don't choose" ;D  I would have, at the last possible minute, taken Keene State because I liked the fact that they handled Eastern Conn. back on Feb 17th.

Good luck to the Owls as well. They have a tough matchup with Stockton. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 29, 2016, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 27, 2016, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 27, 2016, 05:30:20 PM
Ya gotta believe!!

Senior TJ Hefele Sophomore James Morales sinks a 3-pointer falling back from the right flank against two charging Lakers to win it. Bucket comes at 0.4 on the Pburgh scoreboard. Hefele Morales takes a rather wild pass from B. Estarfaa who was driving left down the lane and finding considerable traffic. Hefele Morales winner follows  flurry of trey exchanges.  Trailing 67-60 with 4:30 left after 9-0 Oswego run,  Cortland's C. Joseph first of three straight 3-pointers gives his team 68-67 lead at 2:28. B. Sortino FTs for Oswego puts Lakers up. Joseph trey at 1:26 makes it 71-71. Hefele from the right side lands a triple for a 74-71 Cortland advantage at 0:30. Laker K. Covley immediately responds at 0:24 to set up the climax. Sortino able to get off a final desperation bid -- don't know if it would have been allowed ........

The sophomore Joseph named the tourney's mvp. Has 24 points, Hefele 14, Estarfaa 12. Sortino  with 27 OSt markers

Fixed it for you jdex. ;D I had a front row seat and it was nothing but net.  Young Morales likely hits the biggest shot of his career, so far. Great pass by Blair Estarfaa to find the open man with time running out and covered well by Oswego defenders.


Magic,

Just in from the course (golf), yes in Florida in 70 degree temps (sorry bout that). Got a look at Cortland winning hoop vs. Oswego on Pburgh video. And, yes, Mr. Ryan (not a bad play-by-play voice whatsoever) DID call TJ Hefele for the win. Of course, TJ's a lefty and he had just hit a critical 'three.'  That should have set us to wonder since James Morales is a righty, and the shot was a righty. The call and the video available on Cortland website ........ But grats for quickly setting us straight. Especially for the first hand look. We were on the opposite side of the court (or at least the camera was!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2016, 07:06:15 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 29, 2016, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 27, 2016, 06:16:31 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 27, 2016, 05:30:20 PM
Ya gotta believe!!

Senior TJ Hefele Sophomore James Morales sinks a 3-pointer falling back from the right flank against two charging Lakers to win it. Bucket comes at 0.4 on the Pburgh scoreboard. Hefele Morales takes a rather wild pass from B. Estarfaa who was driving left down the lane and finding considerable traffic. Hefele Morales winner follows  flurry of trey exchanges.  Trailing 67-60 with 4:30 left after 9-0 Oswego run,  Cortland's C. Joseph first of three straight 3-pointers gives his team 68-67 lead at 2:28. B. Sortino FTs for Oswego puts Lakers up. Joseph trey at 1:26 makes it 71-71. Hefele from the right side lands a triple for a 74-71 Cortland advantage at 0:30. Laker K. Covley immediately responds at 0:24 to set up the climax. Sortino able to get off a final desperation bid -- don't know if it would have been allowed ........

The sophomore Joseph named the tourney's mvp. Has 24 points, Hefele 14, Estarfaa 12. Sortino  with 27 OSt markers

Fixed it for you jdex. ;D I had a front row seat and it was nothing but net.  Young Morales likely hits the biggest shot of his career, so far. Great pass by Blair Estarfaa to find the open man with time running out and covered well by Oswego defenders.


Magic,

Just in from the course (golf), yes in Florida in 70 degree temps (sorry bout that). Got a look at Cortland winning hoop vs. Oswego on Pburgh video. And, yes, Mr. Ryan (not a bad play-by-play voice whatsoever) DID call TJ Hefele for the win. Of course, TJ's a lefty and he had just hit a critical 'three.'  That should have set us to wonder since James Morales is a righty, and the shot was a righty. The call and the video available on Cortland website ........ But grats for quickly setting us straight. Especially for the first hand look. We were on the opposite side of the court (or at least the camera was!)

jdex,

I saw the video on the SUNYAC website about 4 PM today. I started to send you a PM that you were right, but got sidetracked with a problem at my store and when I came back to this board, there was your post.   So yes, the announcer, Rob Ryan, did call the wrong player, not once but twice. Called him Hefele on the replay as well.  Funny thing is you can clearly see Hefele #10 hovering around the top of the key on the left side as Blair Estarfaa is making his move to the basket.  Should have known the only way you'd be wrong is by being fed false info. ;)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 29, 2016, 07:31:01 PM
The two first round games in Plattsburgh will be played, according to the Cardinals athletics website, on Friday evening.  The Trinity / Johnson & Wales game will tip at 5:30 with Plattsburgh and Fitchburg State playing at 7:30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 08:01:18 PM
Lost 1 of our coaching brethren today. Potsdam relieved both men's and women's coaches of their positions today.  Don't see that happen too often in the Yac!  Hoping that Sherry Dobbs lands on his feet somewhere, he was a class act. I remember during Potsdam's last visit to Buff State, he sat Josh Blagrove (4th leading scorer) because of his post game antics the night before at Fredonia! Didn't even let him dress! Here's to hoping the best for him!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:52:02 PM
I missed the entire selection show. The link to the show brought up the NCAA page but never the video.

You might want to start using the D3hoops.com website once in awhile ;)

We had the show on our own link... worked pretty darn well. Next time maybe ;)

Oh... and Pat and I picked NYU and left Rochester out of the tournament. Did it on last night's Hoopsville. Would love to see you chime in when we are on the air. :)

Quote from: pg04 on February 29, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Lancaster Bible received no favors in their placement. Tough draw against Wooster and then if they won that, Catholic (unless Catholic loses)

I disagree... this is a perfect matchup for LBC.

When looking only at the criteria... LBC should have been served up to the highest seed available. Poor SOS, wouldn't have made it without an AQ, only one win of 27 games worth noting; ignore the WL and you have a team from the MASCAC who no one knows and gets the hardest opponent possible.

Instead, they get a Wooster team who was a late selection into the tournament and clearly is not the same dominating team from earlier this century. This is a great matchup for Wooster to prove the F&M game wasn't a fluke. Sure, they have probably Catholic later... but that is a similar game to Wooster. This is an ideal situation for LBC to get a chance to prove themselves against two teams they are actually ranked ABOVE in the Top 25.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2016, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 11:41:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 29, 2016, 12:52:02 PM
I missed the entire selection show. The link to the show brought up the NCAA page but never the video.

You might want to start using the D3hoops.com website once in awhile ;)

We had the show on our own link... worked pretty darn well. Next time maybe ;)

Oh... and Pat and I picked NYU and left Rochester out of the tournament. Did it on last night's Hoopsville. Would love to see you chime in when we are on the air. :)

Quote from: pg04 on February 29, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Lancaster Bible received no favors in their placement. Tough draw against Wooster and then if they won that, Catholic (unless Catholic loses)

I disagree... this is a perfect matchup for LBC.

When looking only at the criteria... LBC should have been served up to the highest seed available. Poor SOS, wouldn't have made it without an AQ, only one win of 27 games worth noting; ignore the WL and you have a team from the MASCAC who no one knows and gets the hardest opponent possible.

Instead, they get a Wooster team who was a late selection into the tournament and clearly is not the same dominating team from earlier this century. This is a great matchup for Wooster to prove the F&M game wasn't a fluke. Sure, they have probably Catholic later... but that is a similar game to Wooster. This is an ideal situation for LBC to get a chance to prove themselves against two teams they are actually ranked ABOVE in the Top 25.

Dave,
I always use the D3hoops website. Why do you think I don't. I used the D3hoops link for the selection show as well, I always have. I went there around 12:05. It brought up the NCAA page and I patiently waited until the requisite time. Nothing happened. I kept clicking on the play button but got a dark screen. I brought it up again off the D3hoops link...again nothing. By then it was over.

Went to the D3 link again for the women's show. Never got that either. Strange.

I did listen to the show last night when you and Pat were making the selections. I almost chimed in when you were talking about Oswego but you got to where I would have pushed you so I didn't have to. :D

I was glad when you left 1 of the UAA teams out of the tournament. I said earlier on Sunday night over on the Pool C board and on this board that the East wouldn't get 4 bids... that NYU or Rochester would be left out if Oswego moved up to #2 in the rankings which they did and should have. I still think that Rochester should have made it and NYU should have stayed home.   

You must have missed my reply to pg04 earlier about Lancaster Bible.

Quote from: magicman on February 29, 2016, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 29, 2016, 01:29:31 PM
Lancaster Bible received no favors in their placement. Tough draw against Wooster and then if they won that, Catholic (unless Catholic loses)
The NEAC conference winner is always going to get a tough draw. It's rated as one of the 2 or 3 weakest conferences in the country, so they always face a team from a much stronger conference. The Chargers will give Wooster a hell of a game and it wouldn't surprise me to see them win and advance. They could make the Sweet 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
magic - I was just giving you a hard time... I suspect the issue might have been your video player? Not sure. Refresh might have cleared it up. No worries, maybe your computer realized it was going to be my mug on the screen again and refused to play the video in fear you would stroke out seeing me. LOL

As for Rochester v NYU... when you start to dive into their numbers, hard to argue Rochester should have stayed ahead of NYU. Just in out-of-conference, neither had great wins. If Rochester had one significant win out of conference, the conversation would have been different.

As for LBC - I was just adding my thoughts. I saw yours :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2016, 01:16:12 AM
Dave,

When you really dive into the numbers between Rochester and NYU here's what you come up with.

In NYU's 11 non-conference games they went 11-0. Those teams they played had a combined won-loss record of 127 wins and 173 losses. 8 of them had losing records, 1 of them was a .500 team and 2 of them had winning records.

Rochester played 10 D3 schools  and went 7-3 against those teams. The won-loss record of those teams was 131-128. 6 had losing records and 4 had winning records. One of their losses was to Oswego by a single point and one of their wins was over Brockport who was regionally ranked at one point. Another win was over Nazareth a good team that was 17-9. Those 3 games alone were better than any non-conference game NYU played. And Rochester didn't play a 3-22 John Jay or a 3-23 Hunter, like the Violets did. Half the teams in the SUNYAC, Liberty League and Empire 8 conference would be 11-0 playing the teams that NYU did. They got rewarded for playing a bunch of bad teams. The NCAA isn't supposed to do that. :P

That's why I think Rochester should have been in instead of NYU.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2016, 01:36:22 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2016, 08:01:18 PM
Lost 1 of our coaching brethren today. Potsdam relieved both men's and women's coaches of their positions today.  Don't see that happen too often in the Yac!  Hoping that Sherry Dobbs lands on his feet somewhere, he was a class act. I remember during Potsdam's last visit to Buff State, he sat Josh Blagrove (4th leading scorer) because of his post game antics the night before at Fredonia! Didn't even let him dress! Here's to hoping the best for him!!

I got the word about a week ago that Sherry was not coming back. He was a good coach and a great guy and I will miss him. He had trouble recruiting top players for the past 10 years. This year he did look to have a good group of young players. Hopefully the new coach will continue to build on that and the school can get back on the right path. Hope Sherry can catch on with somebody but it won't be easy with Potsdam's recent woes on the record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 01, 2016, 10:15:17 AM
Magicman.....glad that Plattsburgh gets to host!  Warm the bus sort of thing.  If Plattsburgh advances, there could be a chance that the sectionals will be in upper NY.  If Amherst wins their "pod".... Dislike that term...then they could be moved to Plattsburgh!!  I expect the Amherst women team to win their pod and get to host the sectionals in LeFrak. 
Yes, both Amherst and Tufts highly ranked women teams lost the hosting opportunities to their men teams for the first two rounds.
Surprising follow up is that Bowdoin gets to host a pod on the women side...my take.
Contrary to your analysis, I believe Amherst matches up well with both WPI and Cortland.  Wrt Cortland, Amherst can match the speed, athleticism and size of The Red Dragons.
What is the driving time between Cortland and Plattsburgh?  If Amherst is sent up to Your area, maybe I will make the trip up via Groton NY.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2016, 06:30:51 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
magic - I was just giving you a hard time... I suspect the issue might have been your video player? Not sure. Refresh might have cleared it up. No worries, maybe your computer realized it was going to be my mug on the screen again and refused to play the video in fear you would stroke out seeing me. LOL

As for Rochester v NYU... when you start to dive into their numbers, hard to argue Rochester should have stayed ahead of NYU. Just in out-of-conference, neither had great wins. If Rochester had one significant win out of conference, the conversation would have been different.

As for LBC - I was just adding my thoughts. I saw yours :)

I'm glad to see that someone gives "uncle" magic a hard time. For a minute I thought that it was only me! >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2016, 06:32:24 PM
And since "3" is the favorite number of SUNYAc ( 3 bids), I've got another prediction. I'm predicting that 3 members of Buff State team make ALL SUNYAC! And that it will be "3" juniors! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2016, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2016, 06:32:24 PM
And since "3" is the favorite number of SUNYAc ( 3 bids), I've got another prediction. I'm predicting that 3 members of Buff State team make ALL SUNYAC! And that it will be "3" juniors! ;)

You don't have any seniors on the team do you? I know I know, a couple.  So yeah, Lovell Smith and Nico McLean are the juniors along with Jordan Glover. Mike Henry's a sophomore. Jordan missed too many games I think. You came in 6th place. Not sure they will give you 3 spots. Especially with the talent that the YAC had this year.

So how many of my Cardinals will make the All SUNYAC teams? Kyle Richardson, Jonathon Patron, Ed Correa, Xavier Thomas, Eli Bryant are all deserving. I'm guessing we get 3 players (Patron may get Rookie of the Year and not make one of the teams) and the Coach of the Year award goes to Coach Curle. Losing your entire starting 5 and winning the regular season crown by 4 games along with being the top team in the East Region should be enough to get him that honor. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 02, 2016, 12:34:57 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 01, 2016, 08:02:46 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on March 01, 2016, 06:32:24 PM
And since "3" is the favorite number of SUNYAc ( 3 bids), I've got another prediction. I'm predicting that 3 members of Buff State team make ALL SUNYAC! And that it will be "3" juniors! ;)

You don't have any seniors on the team do you? I know I know, a couple.  So yeah, Lovell Smith and Nico McLean are the juniors along with Jordan Glover. Mike Henry's a sophomore. Jordan missed too many games I think. You came in 6th place. Not sure they will give you 3 spots. Especially with the talent that the YAC had this year.

So how many of my Cardinals will make the All SUNYAC teams? Kyle Richardson, Jonathon Patron, Ed Correa, Xavier Thomas, Eli Bryant are all deserving. I'm guessing we get 3 players (Patron may get Rookie of the Year and not make one of the teams) and the Coach of the Year award goes to Coach Curle. Losing your entire starting 5 and winning the regular season crown by 4 games along with being the top team in the East Region should be enough to get him that honor. 8-)   

Curle (COY), Richardson (POY) and Patron (ROY) are  no brainers. And you are right...Mike Henry is a sophomore....so 2 juniors and a sophomore from BUFF STATE  (I'm betting)!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2016, 05:49:21 PM
SUNYAC awards have been released.

Player of the Year is Kyle Richardson and Rookie of the Year is Jon Patron...no surprises there.

I can't argue with any of the players selected for the 3 teams. There are so many good players in the conference this year (and every year) that it's hard to narrow the list down to 16 guys. I'm not limited like the SUNYAC office is. I made out most of my All Conference selections last night because I wanted to post them before the SUNYAC came out with their selections. I still had a bit of work left on my honorable mention list and was busy today at my store so I didn't get a chance to finish it. I'll post my selections later on, this evening, for what it's worth.       


Quite surprised that Tom Curle didn't get Coach of the Year. Coach Spanbauer was also a good choice but Plattsburgh lost more through graduation than any team in the conference. To win the regular season crown with so many new faces was, in my opinion, a masterful job. I suppose giving the award to the Coach who wins the conference tournament may be the thing to do but I still value the complete season over a 2 or 3 game stretch. Plattsburgh finished so far in front of 7 strong teams and was undefeated on the road that I didn't even consider anyone else but Coach Curle.     

2015-16 SUNYAC Men's Basketball All-Conference Teams (PDF)
First Team            
Name   School   Position   Year   Hometown
Clifton Lyerly   Brockport   G/F   Jr.    Inwood, N.Y.
Blair Estarfaa   Cortland   G    Sr.    Buffalo, N.Y.
Justin Ringen   Geneseo   G   Jr.    Huntington, N.Y.
Brian Sortino   Oswego   G   Jr.    Fairport, N.Y.
Kyle Richardson   Plattsburgh   G   Sr.    Baldwin, N.Y.

Second Team            
Name   School   Position      Hometown
Lovell Smith   Buffalo State   G   Jr.    Buffalo, N.Y.
Ian Helps   Fredonia   F   So.    Bronx, N.Y.
John Decker   Geneseo   G   Jr.    Lincolndale, N.Y.
Mikey McElroy   Oneonta   F   Sr.    Saratoga Springs, N.Y.
Edward Correa   Plattsburgh   G   Sr.    Bronx, N.Y.

Third Team            
Name   School   Position      Hometown
Devonn Gavin   Brockport   G   Jr.    Rochester, N.Y.
Michael Henry   Buffalo State   G   So.    Syracuse, N.Y.
Nico McLean   Buffalo State   G   Jr.    Buffalo, N.Y.
Lawrence Coleman   Oneonta   F   Jr.    Croton on the Hudson, N.Y.
Eli Bryant   Plattsburgh    G   So.    Staten Island, N.Y.


Player of the Year   Kyle Richardson, Plattsburgh      
Rookie of the Year   Jonathan Patron, Plattsburgh       
Coach of the Year   Tom Spanbauer, Cortland

Congratulations to everyone that was named to the  All Conference Awards List. All very deserving of these honors. 8-)       

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2016, 06:10:29 PM
The SUNYAC website has posted an article about Cortland State going to the NCAA tournament by winning the automatic bid. They posted  another article about Oswego State getting an at large bid to get into the NCAA tournament. Strangely, there is no mention of the regular season champs, Plattsburgh State, the #1 team in the East Region getting an NCAA bid. ??? Plattsburgh not only is dancing like the others, they are the only team in the East Region to host. Pretty much everyone that follows D3 basketball knew the Cardinals were getting a bid two weeks ago when they ended the regular season with a 21-4 record. I was pretty sure we would host 2 weeks ago, even telling the parents of some of our players to make hotel reservations for this coming weekend. The NCAA thought highly enough of them, that they sent the regular season champs of 3 other conferences to Plattsburgh. Yet our own conference website can't acknowledge the Cardinals accomplishment. :P

Fran Elia, please talk to those people will you. :D

Here's the link to the SUNYAC website showing the recent headlines and the announcement of the All Conference awards:

http://www.sunyac.com/index.aspx?path=mbball&


EDIT: I now see a mention, in the middle of the All Conference awards, that Plattsburgh State is going to the NCAA tournament and will be hosting. The other teams that will be sent to Plattsburgh are Trinity College who will face Johnson and Wales College.

The Johnson and Wales Wildcats won both the regular season and tournament championship of the Great Northeast Athletic Conference (GNAC).

The Trinity College Bantams like Plattsburgh won the regular season of the New England Small College Athletic Conference (NESCAC) and  lost in the semifinals of the conference tournament. Trinity has already made a visit to Plattsburgh back on January 4th when they lost to the Cardinals by an 81-73 score.

Fitchburg State, the team Plattsburgh will meet, was the regular season and tournament champions of the Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference(MASCAC)     
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2016, 10:21:35 PM
The latest D3hoops Top 25 poll came out recently and Plattsburgh State slipped 2 places to #23. Their vote total went from 149 down to 87.

Lancaster Bible moved up to #14, their highest placement of the year. They were stuck at #15 for the past several weeks. Their point total went from 260 up to 292. They leaped over Amherst this week which I never thought would happen. :D

In the Others Receiving Votes category NYU is #26 getting 22 points. Rochester another UAA school is #34 with 7 points. Cortland breaks into the poll getting 4 points, and coming in at #37.

The next poll will be the final poll and won't come out until the National Champion has been crowned.

Here's the link to the Top 25 poll:
http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2015-16/week12



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2016, 12:25:10 AM
Was not totally shocked TSpan was voted the top coach. We did believe he would be a serious contender, but that T. Curle would prevail.

Tis true Cortland had several returning players, though only B. Estarfaa was much of a factor the previous season when L. Herron was the main focus. Then-frosh pivotman J. Prendergast was expected to figure prominently this winter, but was injured and never played. TSpan at season's start had roster of 18 players -- all of them decent though mostly inexperienced. Then 6-10 Z. Lydon went down after four games.

Mixing and matching lineups was a task, and this team didn't find itself till late. But obviously came on like gangbusters. C. Joseph has been a project, but was force fed because of his size in an area that was needed. He delivered at times. Senior TJ Hefele got more and more minutes and turned into a leader at the point. Then there was senior transfer JP Reagan, a starter and major contributor at RIT before returning to his hometown to finish his career. He gradually fit in to the degree that he was the go-to guy. Others played extremely valuable roles when needed.

TSpan in his 21st season and we think turned in one of his best coaching efforts. Don't think Cortland was favored, at least by some, in any game they played against Buff St, Brockport, Oneonta, Oswego, yet won 9 of 10 games vs. that quartet. Played two tight games with Geneseo. And lost big twice to Plattsburgh, which CSt did not match up with well at all IMO.

Somewhat surprised at the selection of B. Estarfaa to the first team.

Don't know for sure, but isn't the voting done prior to the conference tournament. Seems the awards were announced at the same time as the tourney finals in the past. Of course, am sure all precincts have to have reported.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2016, 12:25:59 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
magic - I was just giving you a hard time... I suspect the issue might have been your video player? Not sure. Refresh might have cleared it up. No worries, maybe your computer realized it was going to be my mug on the screen again and refused to play the video in fear you would stroke out seeing me. LOL

As for Rochester v NYU... when you start to dive into their numbers, hard to argue Rochester should have stayed ahead of NYU. Just in out-of-conference, neither had great wins. If Rochester had one significant win out of conference, the conversation would have been different.

As for LBC - I was just adding my thoughts. I saw yours :)

I heard from other people who had trouble with the NCAA's video player as well. Something about permissions and updating a plug-in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on March 03, 2016, 12:50:22 AM
Quote from: jdex on March 03, 2016, 12:25:10 AM
Somewhat surprised at the selection of B. Estarfaa to the first team.

Don't know for sure, but isn't the voting done prior to the conference tournament. Seems the awards were announced at the same time as the tourney finals in the past. Of course, am sure all precincts have to have reported.

The all-conference voting is done prior to the tournament, but I believe the top awards (POY, ROY, COY) are voted upon after the tournament ends.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2016, 02:08:50 AM
Here's the SUNYAC All Conference Teams if I was passing out the awards.

Player of the Year: Kyle Richardson 
Kyle had 12 double-doubles, more than anyone else and just missed 8 others by 1 or 2 rebounds. Led the SUNYAC in rebounding with 10.3 per game and was 3rd in scoring with 19.7 ppg. He was also 4th in field goal percentage, 3rd in blocks per game, 7th in total steals, 8th in steals per game, 9th in minutes per game, and 11th in free throw percentage.   

Rookie of the Year:  Jon Patron of Plattsburgh State. Also named him to my 3rd team. If the POTY can be named to a team then so can the ROTY if deserving and Jon was certainly deserving. In fact I could argue that I placed him too low. He averaged over 14 ppg, (15th) 7.3 rpg (4th) and totaled 369 points (13th). He was 2nd in the conference in field goal percentage at 55.1%. His future over the next 3 years is bright. The possibility exists that he could finish his career at Plattsburgh as the leading scorer in the school's history.     
                             

Coach of the Year:  Tom Curle Plattsburgh State.
Leading the Cardinals to the #1 team in the East Region and first place in the regular season after losing 5 starters is my reason for giving him the nod over Coach Spanbauer. If you had polled the coaches at the beginning of the year and asked them who the favorites were to win the conference I think Oswego, Cortland and Brockport would have popped up before Plattsburgh. The Cardinals may have been as low as 6th place if their was a pecking order released at that time. Winning the regular season in somewhat of a runaway was beyond my wildest dreams.

So, no disrespect intended for Cortland's outstanding coach who did a great job grabbing the 2nd seed in the final weeks of the season and then won the SUNYAC championship. I can understand why he was chosen, as the winner of the Conference Tournament, many times gets that honor.  Coach Curle was the beneficiary of the same thing a few years ago ( 2006-07) when his team won the Conference Tournament as the #2 seed. Coach Spanbauer did an exceptional job with the injuries he had to deal with and as our friend jdex stated, 9 of 10 against Brockport, Buff State, Oneonta and Oswego is impressive. 

My First Team

Clifton Lyerly         Brockport State   Junior
Mike Henry           Buffalo State         Sophomore
Justin Ringen        Geneseo State      Junior
Brian Sortino        Oswego State        Junior
Kyle Richardson    Plattsburgh State  Senior

My Second Team

Lovell Smith          Buffalo State        Junior
Ian Helps              Fredonia State      Sophomore
John Decker          Geneseo State     Junior
Mikey McElroy       Oneonta State      Senior
Ed Correa              Plattsburgh State   Senior


My Third Team

Nico McLean            Buffalo State        Junior
Hamed Shamseldin Brockport State    Sophomore
Blair Estarfaa          Cortland State       Senior
Jon Patron               Plattsburgh State  Freshman
Eli Bryant                Plattsburgh State  Sophomore


My Fourth Team

Devonn Gavin           Brockport State      Junior
JP Reagan                Cortland State        Senior
Lawrence Coleman   Oneonta State        Junior
Alex Rawa                Oswego State         Senior
Xavier Thomas         Plattsburgh State    Senior

I chose 4 teams because I can. Even that is not enough to name all the outstanding players the SUNYAC had this year.The following list is comprised of players who could just as easily made one of these teams. There's just not enough spots to go around. In alphabetical order by school my honorable mentions are:


Levi Pace                  Brockport State         Junior
Jordan Glover           Buffalo State             Junior
Kevin Marmolejos     Buffalo State             Senior
Carrell Joseph          Cortland State           Sophomore
TJ Hefele                  Cortland State           Senior
Kevin Crockett         Geneseo State           Sophomore         
RJ Rosa                    New Paltz State         Senior
Jack Dignan              Oneonta State           Senior
Jackson Zuvic           Oneonta State           Senior
Kyle Covley              Oswego State            Senior
Joe Estramonte        Potsdam State           Senior

I was happy to see that most of my selections were very close to what the coaches chose as their selections. We had a few differences, but again we're splitting hairs sometimes with a 1st team or a 3rd team placement. I watched Brian Sortino take over a game and Justin Ringen do the same on several occasions. They could just have easily been named as POTY. I watched Carrell Joseph make big time shots again and again last weekend. Kyle Covely, Kevin Marmalejos, and others on this list have also done it all year. There are never enough awards to go around. So yeah I've named a lot of guys here..more than the conference does...but that's my prerogative.       

I watched an awful lot of SUNYAC basketball this year (and every year) and all of these student athletes were worth the price of admission. I'll miss seeing a lot of them next year but our conference is in good hands with all the talent that will be returning. The hard part is waiting 8 more months for next season to begin. Can't we have a SUNYAC D League that starts on April 1st. ??? At least we have the excitement of 3 teams in the Dance and hopefully we can do a little lot of damage. Friday night can't come soon enough. I'm so lucky to be able to watch a few NCAA games live and in person. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 03, 2016, 11:07:03 AM
Magic, no arguments here on your lineup! Right On, IMO!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2016, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: jdex on March 03, 2016, 11:07:03 AM
Magic, no arguments here on your lineup! Right On, IMO!

Thank you jdex. Coming from a respected, knowledgeable person as yourself, makes me feel that I wasn't drinking too much CARDINAL RED kool aid. :D It's especially welcome knowing you're a long time Cortland booster. 8-)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2016, 12:25:59 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
magic - I was just giving you a hard time... I suspect the issue might have been your video player? Not sure. Refresh might have cleared it up. No worries, maybe your computer realized it was going to be my mug on the screen again and refused to play the video in fear you would stroke out seeing me. LOL

As for Rochester v NYU... when you start to dive into their numbers, hard to argue Rochester should have stayed ahead of NYU. Just in out-of-conference, neither had great wins. If Rochester had one significant win out of conference, the conversation would have been different.

As for LBC - I was just adding my thoughts. I saw yours :)

I heard from other people who had trouble with the NCAA's video player as well. Something about permissions and updating a plug-in.

Thanks for letting me know about that Pat. I kept closing my link and bringing up another fresh page but each time the NCAA page came up there was nothing there but a black screen with the NCAA logo on it. Same thing for the women's show a few hours later. Glad to know it wasn't just me. Crazy because I haven't had any trouble bringing up countless webcasts of D3 games all season long.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2016, 01:56:24 PM
Folks, just five more hours to enter the men's D-III bracket challenge before tonight's tipoff!
https://d3challenge.com/login/register.php
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 03, 2016, 04:13:07 PM
Great story on the Geneseo woman's team: http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-nation/2015-16/geneseo-forged-by-tragedy
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 03, 2016, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 03, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2016, 12:25:59 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
magic - I was just giving you a hard time... I suspect the issue might have been your video player? Not sure. Refresh might have cleared it up. No worries, maybe your computer realized it was going to be my mug on the screen again and refused to play the video in fear you would stroke out seeing me. LOL

As for Rochester v NYU... when you start to dive into their numbers, hard to argue Rochester should have stayed ahead of NYU. Just in out-of-conference, neither had great wins. If Rochester had one significant win out of conference, the conversation would have been different.

As for LBC - I was just adding my thoughts. I saw yours :)

I heard from other people who had trouble with the NCAA's video player as well. Something about permissions and updating a plug-in.

Thanks for letting me know about that Pat. I kept closing my link and bringing up another fresh page but each time the NCAA page came up there was nothing there but a black screen with the NCAA logo on it. Same thing for the women's show a few hours later. Glad to know it wasn't just me. Crazy because I haven't had any trouble bringing up countless webcasts of D3 games all season long.   

Let's not give magicman any slack... he screwed this up... he knows it. LOL

Actually, I warned people I would break the stream... I guess I was right!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2016, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 03, 2016, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 03, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2016, 12:25:59 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2016, 12:42:32 AM
magic - I was just giving you a hard time... I suspect the issue might have been your video player? Not sure. Refresh might have cleared it up. No worries, maybe your computer realized it was going to be my mug on the screen again and refused to play the video in fear you would stroke out seeing me. LOL

As for Rochester v NYU... when you start to dive into their numbers, hard to argue Rochester should have stayed ahead of NYU. Just in out-of-conference, neither had great wins. If Rochester had one significant win out of conference, the conversation would have been different.

As for LBC - I was just adding my thoughts. I saw yours :)

I heard from other people who had trouble with the NCAA's video player as well. Something about permissions and updating a plug-in.

Thanks for letting me know about that Pat. I kept closing my link and bringing up another fresh page but each time the NCAA page came up there was nothing there but a black screen with the NCAA logo on it. Same thing for the women's show a few hours later. Glad to know it wasn't just me. Crazy because I haven't had any trouble bringing up countless webcasts of D3 games all season long.   

Let's not give magicman any slack... he screwed this up... he knows it. LOL

Actually, I warned people I would break the stream... I guess I was right!

Well, when you have geared your entire Monday to the D3 NCAA selection show, got your sheet ready with hand made brackets all set to fill in as the teams are announced, talked the wife  into running the store for you that day so you could enjoy the selection show (and then get right into the draft of our NCAA Fantasy League), pull up the link, wait for the scheduled time for the show to begin, and when that arrives and nothing happens, you assume they are running late.

Then as I'm typing a reply on the SUNYAC board, waiting to hear Dave McHugh's dulcet tones to let me know that the video is on, I see a post from Bengalsrule that Plattsburgh is hosting and we have drawn Fitchburg State. What in hell is going on. ??? Where's the show. ??? Panic sets in as you know they are announcing teams, and you're missing the action. :o

Get rid of the window, go back to the D3hoops page click on the link again and find a black screen once more. Repeat the process. Bypass the D3hoops link and go straight to the NCAA website I have stored in my favorites file. By the time I get the right page up it says this show is over. So yeah, I think I screwed up and can't figure out why or how. I've seen every selection show for quite a few years with no problems. So I call Coach Curle and he gives me the rundown on the SUNYAC teams as he berates me for missing the show. :-[  Well done magicman, well done. :(

So I need all the slack I can find. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 03, 2016, 08:53:59 PM
Hahahaha... loved that read. Well done, Magic. My dulcet tones were screwed up in the men's show... so you didn't miss anything. I was much more dulcet on the women's show. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 03, 2016, 09:48:13 PM
I did get to the video but I thought it was screwed up because of Dave's issues so I figured it was on my end and gave up, waiting for the announcement here LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2016, 09:53:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 03, 2016, 08:53:59 PM
Hahahaha... loved that read. Well done, Magic. My dulcet tones were screwed up in the men's show... so you didn't miss anything. I was much more dulcet on the women's show. LOL

That's cause you and Pat stayed up way to late projecting the Pool C picks and making brackets. You're really going to be in trouble if the NCAA decides to bump it to Selection Sunday instead of Monday.You'll being doing the show on no sleep, instead of the 5 hours that you got. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2016, 09:56:55 PM
Well the first game of the NCAA tournament is in the books as Hardin-Simmons U defeats Texas Lutheran   97-81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 03, 2016, 10:04:14 PM
And I am 0-1 in bracket challenge  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2016, 06:25:47 AM
Here's the video link to the NCAA games taking place at Plattsburgh State today. Game time is 5:30 for the Trinity/Johnson and Wales game. The Plattsburgh State/Fitchburg State game starts at 7:30.

http://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/plattsburgh-state/

Here's the link for live stats:

http://www.sidearmstats.com/plattsburgh/mbball/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on March 04, 2016, 12:57:57 PM
Wishing Plattsburgh, Cortland and Oswego the best of luck tonight.
Hoping for a 3 game sweep tonight for the SUNYAC

Enjoy the Games and GO SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2016, 04:15:40 PM
It's NCAA Tournament Day    Here's What's On The Schedule

Cortland  vs WPI  at Amherst College 5:30 PM

The Red Dragons will be able to play with this team. In fact the oddsmakers have made Cortland a slim 1 point favorite. This is the first meeting ever between the two schools.  WPI will field a lineup comparable in size to Cortland. They do have a 7'3" player on the team but he will be seated on the bench throughout the game as he has only played 17 minutes all year long. WPI, in the only game I saw them play, struggled from the field in a 58-50 win over MIT. They were 20 x63 (31.7%). Cortland has made over 100 more 3 point baskets than the Engineers have on the season. That could be the difference in today's game. If Blair Estarfaa, TJ Hefele, Carrell Joseph and JP Reagan can light it up today like they did last weekend, then Cortland should be in fine shape. I'm taking the Red Dragons to win this one by a final score of 73-68.


Delaware Valley  vs  Oswego State     at Marietta   5:00 P

The Lakers get a favorable matchup today as well. Delaware Valley is the winner of the MAC Freedom conference and the Aggies posted a 20-7 record on the year. The closest game that gives us an inkling about this team is a 78-64loss they had at Trinity (Ct) back on December 31st.  Trinity, of course, is at Plattsburgh today playing in the first game against Johnson and Wales. The Bantams lost to Plattsburgh bacl in January by an 81-73 score and of course we know how Oswego fared against the Cardinals.

The oddsmakers have the Lakers listed as a 6 point favorite in this one. It is also the first time these schools have ever met. The Aggies leading scorer Chris Moran (19.5 ppg) didn't fare well against Trinity's big men, only scoring 8 points. He may find the going just as tough today trying to get by Mykelle Krecko and mark Candelario. Oswego should have a size advantage and the advantage from behind the arc. Brian Sortino will prove to be more than they can handle. The Lakers win this one by a 83-70 final score.

Fitchburg State at #23 Plattsburgh State 7:30 PM

The battle of the Burgs in the 'Burgh. I'd feel a whole lot better about this contest if we had our 2nd best scoring option and rebounder suiting up for the game. But you can't change what's happened and the Cardinals need to move forward, hoping that other players will take advantage of the opportunity to shine. The talent is there and guys like Chris Middleton, Ian Howard, Brandon Johnson and Isaiah Johnson will see an increase in their playing time to offset the Cardinals' loss.

The Fitchburg State Falcons beat Bridgewater State, a  fellow MASCAC conference member, twice this season and Bridgewater State took Brockport to the limit before falling to the Golden Eagles 100-95 in triple overtime during the Chrisrmas break.  The Falcons also own a win over WPI 57-56 back when the Engineers were highly ranked in the D3hoops Top 25. The Engineers were still being ranked last week at #24. Yes that's the same WPI team that Cortland is listed as a 1 point favorite over and playing today.

Plattsburgh is listed as a 10 point favorite in today's contest which I think will be a high scoring affair.
The Falcons have a 6'9' starter, but overall the teams match up fairly well in size. I think the Cardinals will prevail here as their athleticism may be a  bit more than the Falcons are used to. Plattsburgh wins this one 85-73.

Other East Region Games

Lancaster Bible vs Wooster   at Catholic University  7:00 PM

Wooster is a slight favorite here but I'm taking the Chargers to remain perfect with a 87-84 win.

Skidmore  vs Franklin and Marshall  at Tufts University  5:30 PM

I think the Throughbreds will be at a disadvantage here without their preseason All American. The Diplomats are a 5 point favorite and while I don't rule out a Skidmore win here I just don't think it will happen. F & M wins this one 77-70. But I sure hope I'm wrong. 

Hartwick vs  Babson    at Susquehanna   5:30 PM

The Hawks have drawn the toughest opponent of any of the East Region teams in my opinion. The oddsmakers have only made them a 3 point underdog but I'll be surprised if they can keep it that close. Babson was a Final Four team last year and return a lot of parts from that team. Joey Flannery is a candidate for D3 Player of the Year. I think that Babason wins this one by an 89-81 final score. Hope I'm wrong here as well, even though I got Joey Flannery's teammate on a fantasy team somewhere.  :D

NYU  vs  Brooklyn College  5:30 at Christopher Newport

The Violets play a crosstown college several hundred miles away. The schools have only met once before despite both being in the Big Apple and that was an NYU win. The Violets are favored again today by a 4 point margin. It wouldn't surprise me to see Brooklyn College win this game and if they hadn't lost Edon Gjonbalaj in January I would be choosing. The other Gjongalaj is still on the team..Egzon Gjonbalaj and is the leading scorer, but one without the other won't get the job done. I am rooting for the Brooklyn team though despite NYU being an East Region team. I just don't feel they should be dancing. In fact as I sit here I'm changing my mind...one Gjongalaj might just be enough. Brooklyn College wins 88-84. ;D     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 04:21:21 PM
If only I could get so many windows open at once and have them all work  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 05:15:01 PM
Very sloppy start for Oswego and Del Val. Del Val leads 16-13 about 8 minutes in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 05:44:39 PM
Del Val 36
Oswego 32
Halftime

DV has used full court press successfully many times and there have been at least 3 times where Oswego was in position for a rebound but were too lackadaisical to get to the loose ball. Some very sloppy moments.

Statistically,  Sortino has 12 points (3-3 from 3 point range and 3-4 Free Throws). He also has two rebounds but 3 turnovers.

Oswego as a whole has 14 (!) turnovers through one half. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 04, 2016, 06:09:57 PM
Cortland 33, WPI 22, half

RDragons 14x29fg, 4x18 3; WPI 10x30fg, 1x8 3s. Corts 21-14 board edge. Only 7 fouls total

TJ Hefele 10 pts(4x5fg) for Corts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 06:13:27 PM
Oswego started the half with a 16-2 run and it's now 52-42 in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 06:24:00 PM
Oswego got the lead up to 60-46, but Del Val has went on a 7-0 run and it's 60-53. 7 minutes left. Crunch time!

Update: 64-60 Oswego with 3:55 left in the game. A nailbiter.

Update 2: Oswego has given away the lead and tied at 65 with 45 seconds left. Del Val has a free throw left after the timeout.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 04, 2016, 06:43:58 PM
WPI waving white flag at 2:34, down 63-43 to Cortland. As usual JP Reagan provides Cortland spark.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 06:51:49 PM
And we go to overtime tied at 68. Oswego was up 68-66 but committed a foul with .8 seconds left, ugh. After barely being able to shoot a free throw all game, Del Val hits both to force the OT.

Oswego comes out really well in OT, up 79-73 with a 1:30 left. Come on hold on!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 07:07:59 PM
Oswego dominates in OT and wins 88-78! An awesome game for Sortino who goes for 39 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 04, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
Cortland 69, WPI 50, final

JP Reagan 18 pts(7x10fg, 2x4 3s) 5 rebs and as usual provides a spark off the bench. TJ Hefele 12 pts(5x8fg, 2x5 3s) 6 rebs; J. Morales 12 pts (4x6fg, 2x4 3s); B. Estarfaa 8 pts(3x8fg); D. Hampton 6 pts, 5 rebs. Cortland 50 percent from the field (25x50fg, 9x30 3s). WPI 19x55fg, 5x22 3s led by C. Niba 15 pts(4x17fg, 1x8 3s), I. Converse 11 pts

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 07:16:37 PM
2-0 so far. Now let's go home team!  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 08:32:57 PM
Plattsburgh getting all it can handle from Fitchburg State. 37-34 home team at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 09:21:44 PM
Plattsburgh is down 5 and in serious danger with 6:58 left.  :-\

Update: Cardinals still down 4 with 3:32 left. But they've cut the lead down from 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 09:44:49 PM
Plattsburgh loses 84-81 and I'm depressed about it!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:21:44 PM
I would expound upon the dirty details but I know Magicman will do that better than I could.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:55:57 PM
Also, I want to congratulate Plattsburgh on a great season. They deserve much kudos. You also have one of the greatest fans in D3!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 04, 2016, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:55:57 PM
Also, I want to congratulate Plattsburgh on a great season. They deserve much kudos. You also have one of the greatest fans in D3!

I 2nd that pg04. I know what its like to be on a teams bench and you just played the last game that you will ever play in that particular season. For seniors, their last college game ever!  Its tough. I can only imagine what magicman is going through right now. Having been with him ( or should I say,  in the same gym with him) for at least 3 or 4 (or 5??) of the Buff State at Plattsburgh games. I know first hand that he is the life blood of their non-student fan section (many of their students sit across from the team bench's as opposed to behind)!.  Coaches from every visiting SUNYAC team know who he is. He's almost like that Dos Equis guy (beer commercial). Legendary up north and beyond!

Congrats to Oswego and Cortland also. 2 live on. Possibly 1/8th of the  "Sweet 16" are from the SUNYAC?

Go SUNYAC!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2016, 11:59:59 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 09:44:49 PM
Plattsburgh loses 84-81 and I'm depressed about it!

If you're depressed about it imagine how the magicman feels.  :( >:( :P :'(

The Cardinals laid an egg tonight. Losing Jon Patron, their 2nd leading scorer and rebounder, for the rest of the season, was a huge blow to Plattsburgh. The Cardinals still should have won this game. They were the better team but they made poor decisions at crucial times. When you out-rebound the opposition 46-32 you usually win the game. 19 turnovers that resulted in 25 points will counter the rebound advantage in a hurry.

Thanks for the congrats and condolences from 2 super SUNYAC fans as well.

Bengalsrule did you get the email I sent you this morning and did it fill the bill?

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 12:06:10 AM
I watched most of the game on video and I agree with you. There were times I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Some odd shot choices and the turnover fumbling the ball out of bounds in the last minute was tough. I also questioned a bit running the clock to 15, then getting a 2 with 9 seconds left. I get the strategy but it seemed like they wasted too much time. Then it seemed like their final shot was haphazard given the lack of time. Anyway...

Oswego got the turnover bug as well, being pressed full court they had 14 turnovers in the first half. Luckily they were able to go on a couple of runs...

I am optimistic of the possibilities of 2 teams in the Sweet 16.

Cortland has the "harder" challenge based on ranking having to play at Amherst. But they got quite a scare, needing to win in the final minute over Husson.

Oswego plays Cinderella Gwynedd-Mercy who were able to upend host Marietta much to the dismay of the home fans (again in the final moments). Oswego was on fire for parts of their game and I hope the momentum continues!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 03:41:17 AM
The good news for pg04 is that Kyle Richardson had a huge game for Plattsburgh tonight that gave you 49 fantasy points in the NCAA Tournament Draft League. The bad news is that he will give you no more points since they lost.

I got 46 fantasy points from Brian Sortino and he lives to play another day. There is no way I would have drafted Sortino if I had Richardson on my team. So the fact that you drafted Kyle before I could draft him and then you felt bad because you found out that I wanted him...that will end up gaining me a bunch more points than if I had Kyle on my team. So I just wanted to thank you for drafting him before I could. :D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 05, 2016, 08:48:48 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2016, 11:59:59 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 09:44:49 PM
Plattsburgh loses 84-81 and I'm depressed about it!

If you're depressed about it imagine how the magicman feels.  :( >:( :P :'(

The Cardinals laid an egg tonight. Losing Jon Patron, their 2nd leading scorer and rebounder, for the rest of the season, was a huge blow to Plattsburgh. The Cardinals still should have won this game. They were the better team but they made poor decisions at crucial times. When you out-rebound the opposition 46-32 you usually win the game. 19 turnovers that resulted in 25 points will counter the rebound advantage in a hurry.

Thanks for the congrats and condolences from 2 super SUNYAC fans as well.

Bengalsrule did you get the email I sent you this morning and did it fill the bill?



Indeed.  Couldn't have come at a better time. Yesterday was really crazy. Buff State team is being honored today at a pre game ceremony of the Buffalo 716 ers (semi pro team that jake Simmons, Glenroy Carr and Larry rivers on).  Part of a rememberance in honor of Bradley Doyley ( gonna be tough on the boys...again).  Helping coaches players get ready for that! 

You may have mentioned it earlier and I just missed it....but what happened to Patron?

Something tells me that because of season long performances like the Cards and others in the Yac, 3 bids should be the norm for the foreseeable future.  Give you a call later on today. Again thanks for the quick email ( made me look like I REALLY keep up with all this stuff...enough to said).  Talk to you soon "uncle" magic!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
Magicman I was a jinx to 3 pod hosts and an undefeated team. With only 4 players remaining Due to upsets, I don't hold out much hope!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
Magicman I was a jinx to 3 pod hosts and an undefeated team. With only 4 players remaining Due to upsets, I don't hold out much hope!

Yeah, you were and I'm personally holding you responsible for my Cardinals losing. All my magic couldn't overcome your jinx. ??? I must be getting old....actually I am getting old. :P

I'll let you know on Monday how you can make it up to me. Stay tuned to this board. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on March 05, 2016, 02:16:04 PM
I thought the Plattsburgh game looked a lot like the Oswego @ Plattsburgh regular season game earlier in the year.  There was a stretch where Fitchburg either drained a 3 or walked in for a layup.  Defense completely deserted the Cards for a significant stretch.  They also had several careless unforced turnovers, especially late.  Finally, why run the clock all the way down to 15 seconds, call timeout, then take a two point shot? 

It was a very frustrating end to a very exciting season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2016, 12:52:21 PM

I'll let you know on Monday how you can make it up to me. Stay tuned to this board. ;)

DUN DUN DUN!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 04:09:40 PM
Anyway, Magicman, are you going to the game between J&W and Fitchburg? Should be an entertaining one at least. Maybe I'll catch a glimpse of you.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
I will be in attendance at that game. I will be silver bearded guy sitting up high on the very top row behind the J&W bench wearing a reddish Saratoga hat. They seldom flash the camera in that direction though. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 04:44:37 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
I will be in attendance at that game. I will be silver bearded guy sitting up high on the very top row behind the J&W bench wearing a reddish Saratoga hat. They seldom flash the camera in that direction though.

That's usually my position at a basketball game (given that I have a choice where to sit). Go all the way back. Yeah if you aren't on the opposite side of the camera I likely won't catch a glimpse.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 06:43:56 PM
Saturday's games on Tap

Oswego State vs Gwynedd Mercy   at Marietta 7:00 PM

The Lakers may have caught a break with the Griffins taking down the host team Marietta last night. Oswego may have a height advantage over the Griffins and will have a distinct advantage with their 3 point shooting, I think. Oswego's taller guards should be able to get their shots off without  a hand in the face (with Sortino a hand in the face doesn't matter anyhow) The Griffins are 3 point underdogs in this one and I think that the Lakers could win by a larger margin. Oswego wins a shootout  88-81.


Cortland State  at  Amherst   7:00 PM

It seems like the SUNYAC teams always have to go to Amherst. This is the 3rd time in 4 years that a YAC team has went there. We also don't have much luck there. I'm hoping the Red Dragons can change our luck tonight. Cortland matches up fairly well with the team formerly known as the Lord Jeffs. Both teams like to hoist em up from long distance. Amherst has made more 3's than the Red Dragons and that's probably the first time all year you could say that. (Oswego has 267 with 15 last night. Cortland has 268 with 9 last night) Amherst has made 290 triples for the season.

Cortland also won't give up much height to the Lord Jeffs and they don't appear to have their usual long bench as they only used 8 players in last nights extremely close 74-72 win over Husson, a team from one of the weakest conferences in the country.

The oddsmakers have made Amherst an 8 point favorite in this game and they will probably win on their home court but I'm going to predict the upset here since I want to root for the SUNYAC team. Here's hoping Blair, TJ, RJ, Carrell, and the rest of the guys can get the job done. Final score Cortland 77 Amherst 75.


Off to see Johnson and Wales take down Fitchburg State by an 83 to 75 final score. 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 07:25:43 PM
Magicman, You must not be a hockey fan. You could have chosen to watch Plattsburgh vs. Geneseo SUNYAC final. I'm partial to hockey myself but Brockport has never been good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 07:34:51 PM
Oswego leads 49-41 at the half.

Cortland trails Amherst 34-30 at the half but is playing tough.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 05, 2016, 07:38:41 PM
Cortland goes up 64-58 at 5:45. Amherst answers inside to cut the margin to four at 5:27. C. Joseph, B. Estarfaa, J. Morales and JP Reagan ignite RDragons  .....Joseph 5x10 3s

Yes, Cortland hanging around despite 11x31fg, 5x18 3s in first half. Amherst starts fast and winds up 13x28fg, 5x16 3s. Hosts' size creating problems for the RDragons whose dribble drives being taken away to a large extent. Pretty much have to get more consistent from the arc. Amherst on a couple of occasions looked ready to pull away with double figure leads. Corts stay in the game with plenty of bodies. JP Reagan in particular being neutralize
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 08:04:39 PM
Oswego has had their lead reduced to two and now Cortland leads by four with approximately 10 mins left in both. Go teams!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 05, 2016, 08:13:32 PM
0:42 in Cortland contest ....l 68-66 RDragons ........ no free throws but Amherst with the ball .........draw foul ....misses first, makes second ......one point game at 0:39 .....Cortland TO at 0:20, eight on the shot clock. Corts miss. Amherst misses but fouled on rebound .. Amherst J. McCarthy at the FT line at 0:05 ...hits the first to tie .............TO .... makes second ...Amherst leads  and wins 69-68 when Amherst uses its fouls-to-give (as in four in the bank). Corts unable to get off much .....

Agree on the foul call!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
Not to disrupt your update feed again, but that last foul with 43 seconds left was unfortunate to give the ball back to Amherst.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
Not to disrupt your update feed again, but that last foul with 43 seconds left was unfortunate to give the ball back to Amherst.

Meanwhile Oswego only up by 1 with a minute left...

Oswego wins by 1 in a barnburner!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 05, 2016, 08:35:07 PM
Cortland edged 69-68 at Amherst. Similar ending to last night's Amherst win over Husson. T. McCarthy sinks FTs at 0:05 after fouled on offensive rebounding bid. Lord Jeffs then foul Cortland twice bringing the ball upcourt. Had not yet used allotment of fouls. Had several to give. Just seven Amherst fouls for the game. Tough one for RDragons. Played a whale of a second half, especially B. Estarfaa, soph C. Joseph and JP Reagan when shots had to be made ......

RDragons grab their first lead at 51-50 on Estarfaa trey at 10:35. He then connects off a drive..  CSt by 57-53 on Joseph trey at 8:45. McCarthy lands from the arc and Amherst gets an inside hoop to retake the lead 58-56 at 7:30. Joseph fires another triple at 7:00. J. Morales hits another at 6:30 and when Reagan works inside for a deuce tis 64-58 at 5:45. Back storms Amherst beginning at 5:37. Foul shots by the Jeffs at 3:14 pull them within 64-62. Joseph AGAIN nails a three at 2:50 and the margin is 67-62. Amherst with a bucket at 1:57. Reagan makes one of two FTs at 1:34 to complete Cortland scoring and 68-64 lead. C. Green putback makes it 68-66 at 1:10. Both teams miss but  Estarfaa on defensive rebound is called for controversial foul and Amherst keeps possession down the stretch. One Amherst FT cuts the margin to one. Cortland works the clock but is unable to get off clear shot. Amherst boards, races upcourt, misses tight shot and McCarthy in a scrap draw the deciding foul.

Joseph 20 pts(7x15fg, 6x12 3s) in 34 minutes; Estarfaa 18 pts(7x15fg, 3x9 3s) 4 rebs, 3 assts; Reagan 10 pts(4x10fg, 1x4 3s) 6 rebs; S. Martinez 6 rebs in 15'. Amherst led by C. Green 20 pts(8x16fg, 3x9 3s) 10 rebs; J. McCarthy 10 pts(3x10fg, 2x7 3s) in 36'

Cortland 26x61fg, 12x35 3s, 4x6ft, 4 turnovers, 32 rebs. Amherst 25x58fg, 10x33 3s, 9x11ft, 5 turnovers, 36 rebs.  Corts drew 10 foul whistles to the Jeffs 7
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 08:36:25 PM
The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat (by 1 point) in one night in the SUNYAC

Amherst escapes again. The camera work wasn't that good at the end. And I thought there could have been a foul at the end... but I could be making that up in my head since I didn't get a good look

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 05, 2016, 09:12:13 PM
Congrats to Jason Leone and the Oswego Lakers for their victory over Gwynedd Mercy. Take away their 2 losses to Cortland and Oswego would be on a 10 game win streak! They just seem to get better as the season goes on. Talk about a team getting hot at the right time. Congrats to Congrats to Cortland for standing toe to toe with #15 Amherst on the Lord Jeffs home court!

Next up for the Lakers is Wooster (23-7). Our Yac hopes lie with Oswego.

Go Lakers!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 09:17:20 PM
There are rumblings that Oswego could host for distance reasons (trying not to fly teams all over). But it might be Wooster. CNU kind of got shafted having upsets happen and apparently they won't host even though they are the highest seed of the 4 teams.

I guess we'll see when it's announced. I can never quite figure out their decisions.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 05, 2016, 09:26:32 PM
Great game by Cortland at Amherst.  Magicman was correct...two  teams with many outside shooter.  Stats were close up and down.  The Red Dragons outshot Amherst by two on 3 point shots.  Both teams did not foul much....except for the ones in the last  few seconds of the game.  Amherst won the RB battle.
The Cortland center was a beast from outside! 
Will tip my hat to the Red Dragons next time I visit my daughter's family in Groton N.Y.....about ten minutes away from Cortland St. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 07:25:43 PM
Magicman, You must not be a hockey fan. You could have chosen to watch Plattsburgh vs. Geneseo SUNYAC final. I'm partial to hockey myself but Brockport has never been good.

I'm a hockey fan pg04  but prefer to read about a hockey game and watch a basketball game. Warm in the gym...not so much in the field house. I follow the Cardinals hockey fortunes online and in the newspaper and after hoops season will watch a webcast of Plattsburgh men's or women's games as they take place. Usually one or both are in the NCAA tournament.

Our ladies won today over Oswego 5-0 and will play Utica College Pioneers tomorrow, who beat Elmira 5-1, for the ECAC West Championship. Plattsburgh is trying to win their 4th ECAC West Championship in a row. Seems kind of strange that we're not playing Elmira for the title. We usually do. Utica women have been getting stronger the last few years and are now a player for all the marbles. Pioneers are the only team D3 to beat the Plattsburgh ladies this year who are 25-1 going into tomorrow's game. Cardinal women are 106-5-5 over the past 4 years, with back to back National Championship for the last 2 year. Trying for the threepeat this year.

Just found out that the Plattsburgh men got whooped tonight by Geneseo 7-1. :P Bad days in Black Rock for the Plattsburgh men's sports teams recently. :(  Now they will have to hope for an at large to the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 10:17:28 PM
I understand the warm factor!! Hopefully they get an at large. I know that Geneseo was on the bubble and Plattsburgh was ahead of them, but I am not sure what that game will do to them. As I said, Brockport is not very good (for as long as the team has existed, I think). I don't believe they have ever won a SUNYAC tournament game (that's when they get into it!)

As for the game you were at, Fitchburg made a few runs but I lost interest when the two SUNYAC games were so close!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 10:17:28 PM
I understand the warm factor!! Hopefully they get an at large. I know that Geneseo was on the bubble and Plattsburgh was ahead of them, but I am not sure what that game will do to them. As I said, Brockport is not very good (for as long as the team has existed, I think). I don't believe they have ever won a SUNYAC tournament game (that's when they get into it!)

As for the game you were at, Fitchburg made a few runs but I lost interest when the two SUNYAC games were so close!

Don't blame you I would have went to the YAC games as well.

Coach Curle was in his office, in the same building as Memorial Hall, watching the webcast of the Bowdoin Women play since his daughter is their star point guard. He came up at halftime and gave me the halftime scores. I was sitting with an NCAA referee friend who was writing up evaluations on the ref team doing the J&W-Fitchburg game. He dug out his iPhone and we kept getting updates. Was heartbroken when Cortland lost in the final seconds. Saw Oswego had a decent lead up 10 with under 9 minutes to go. I told my friend Oswego likes a close game. like yesterday it will come down to the final few seconds. Sure enough it did. :D

D3hoops has the Oswego game on the front page.

Here's the link:   http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2016/second-round-wrapup
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on March 05, 2016, 10:35:23 PM
pg04 - for NCAA Div. III tournament games, if a team is within 500 miles, they have to take a bus (or pay for their own flights, which schools don't do). Here are the official mileages between Oswego-Wooster-Keene St.-Christopher Newport:

Distance to Oswego:
Keene St. - 268
Wooster - 385
CNU - 576

Distance to Wooster:
Oswego - 384
CNU - 541
Keene St. - 619

Distance to Keene St.:
Oswego - 269
CNU - 614
Wooster - 619

Distance to CNU:
Wooster - 545
Oswego - 576
Keene St. - 618

So if Oswego hosts, only one flight is needed.
If Wooster or Keene St. host, two flights are needed.
If CNU hosts, three flights are needed.







Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
Thanks Fran. I can't see them paying for the 3 flights to the actual highest seed.

Oswego it is! Should be a rocking place on Friday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Fran,

Thanks for making it semiofficial. I certainly think that Oswego will host. I remember a few years ago when the hosting site went to Rochester even though Middlebury was the one who should have received that prize, but didn't because of the travel situation.

Sorry about the Red Dragons close loss tonight at Amherst. Seems like we always have to play there. One of these years we'll get them in a YAC house. Tell the guys it was a great run for them, the past 2 weeks. Wish I could have seen the last 2 games. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 11:00:44 PM
Those teams in the Northeast have really turned out to be formidable!   :)

Too bad we don't have an Oswego poster. Come on I know you are out there  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 05, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Fran,

Thanks for making it semiofficial. I certainly think that Oswego will host. I remember a few years ago when the hosting site went to Rochester even though Middlebury was the one who should have received that prize, but didn't because of the travel situation.

Sorry about the Red Dragons close loss tonight at Amherst. Seems like we always have to play there. One of these years we'll get them in a YAC house. Tell the guys it was a great run for them, the past 2 weeks. Wish I could have seen the last 2 games.

Actually... Middlebury and St. Mary's where both #1 regionally ranked teams... if memory serves, I think the criteria favored SMC, but it was really close. Either way it went to #5 Rochester. That was to save ONE flight. This is to save two or three! There are already two guarunteed flights this coming weekend... they can't get away with asking for two or three more... it will be one and at Wooster - but we have to wait until tomorrow morning to be sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on March 05, 2016, 11:29:58 PM
Dave, if Wooster hosts there would be 2 flights. Oswego is the only possible host that would require only 1 flight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 11:34:06 PM
Great final couple of minutes going on in the last game of the day. Whitworth and Whitman84-83 under a minute to go. Whitman upset in the making?

Whitman up 3 with 19 seconds to go and a timeout. Whitworth has the ball and will need to go for a quick 2 or set up a 3 pointer.

Kenny Love buries a 3  6 seconds after the time out to tie it up.

Christian McDonald hits a jumper with 2.6 seconds left to put Whitman back in front by 2.

Inbounds pass intercepted by Whitman and Whitworth is going home as the Missionaries pull off the upset. Final score 88-86.

Sorry pg04.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 11:35:27 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2016, 11:34:06 PM
Great final couple of minutes going on in the last game of the day. Whitworth and Whitman84-83 under a minute to go. Whitman upset in the making?

This will officially kill me as upsets will destroy my first 4 drafted players. Along with 2 others gone in toss up games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 11:42:12 PM
I can't believe it. Whitworth lost. LOL.

On the upside, a tremendous first weekend for the tournament.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2016, 11:43:41 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 05, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 05, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
Fran,

Thanks for making it semiofficial. I certainly think that Oswego will host. I remember a few years ago when the hosting site went to Rochester even though Middlebury was the one who should have received that prize, but didn't because of the travel situation.

Sorry about the Red Dragons close loss tonight at Amherst. Seems like we always have to play there. One of these years we'll get them in a YAC house. Tell the guys it was a great run for them, the past 2 weeks. Wish I could have seen the last 2 games.

Actually... Middlebury and St. Mary's where both #1 regionally ranked teams... if memory serves, I think the criteria favored SMC, but it was really close. Either way it went to #5 Rochester. That was to save ONE flight. This is to save two or three! There are already two guarunteed flights this coming weekend... they can't get away with asking for two or three more... it will be one and at Wooster - but we have to wait until tomorrow morning to be sure.

Yeah Dave, We think it will be Oswego. Fran is right. 2 flights to Wooster, only one if it's Oswego.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 05, 2016, 11:52:15 PM
I COMPLETELY miswrote that... I apologize. I meant Oswego as my tweets tonight can attest.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2016, 12:08:49 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 05, 2016, 11:52:15 PM
I COMPLETELY miswrote that... I apologize. I meant Oswego as my tweets tonight can attest.

Well that's fine but I don't do tweets. ;D However I did feel you were simply mixing up Oswego and Wooster, because if anyone knows the geography and the flights it's usually you.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2016, 12:12:13 AM
Yeah - brain is mush. I am in a wonderful bar in Marietta right now... I was waiting for video to upload, while watching the Whitworth game, and had seven other conversations in my head... while my contacts remind me it has been too long without them coming out... I was thinking about Wooster and it ended up being written when I meant Oswego. Sorry for the confusion.

And magic... you couldn't do Twitter... character restrictions would kill you. They handcuff me!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on March 06, 2016, 12:39:47 AM
I figured you just misspoke Dave. Doesn't happen to you often!  :)

Do you remember a more parity-laden first two rounds in recent years compared to this one?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2016, 01:30:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2016, 12:12:13 AM
And magic... you couldn't do Twitter... character restrictions would kill you. They handcuff me!

Character restrictions...I'll have you know I have high moral fiber!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2016, 01:34:01 AM
Nope.. and I am proud to say I called it. With this must parity all season, the tournament was bound to be wide open. I love it as much as I can't keep track of it. LOL

Thanks for giving me the benefit of doubt... I am just so tired on top of everything. This is a much more challenging season because of outside factors than ever before... and I added on stuff. LOL

Quote from: magicman on March 06, 2016, 01:30:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2016, 12:12:13 AM
And magic... you couldn't do Twitter... character restrictions would kill you. They handcuff me!

Character restrictions...I'll have you know I have high moral fiber!

Touche... well played.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2016, 02:03:25 AM
Dave,
Back in the 2010-11 season Middlebury was definitely the team that would have hosted if the flights hadn't come into play. I remember the Middlebury fans were up in arms over their loss of the hosting site. It's embedded in my memory because that was the year that Buffalo State made the Sweet 16 and I predicted for my Bengal friends that because of the distance, Rochester was going to host, instead of Middlebury or St Mary's and they would only have to make a short trip to the sectionals. That was the year that Middlebury went 28-2 losing to St Thomas in the Final Four. Going into the NCAA tournament they had a regional record of 22-1 while St Mary's was only 20-3.

If Middlebury hosted St Mary's had to fly there, the other 2 teams could be bussed in.

If St. Mary's hosted then Middlebury had to fly and the other 2 teams could take a bus.

With Rochester or Buffalo State no flights were necessary and Rochester was in the drivers seat against the Bengals.  It was really a no brainer to choose Rochester knowing how the NCAA avoids flights like the plague.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2016, 03:13:38 AM
Magic - I know the bracket very, very well... I had called the SMC pod the weekend prior. The differences between Middlebury and SMC were very small as both were #1s in the regional rankings. If it came down to just those two for hosting, the committee had a very difficult decision to make. I know it wasn't relavent because by the time I was walking out of the SMC gym that Saturday night we realized MIddlebury was too far away and it wasn't going to happen. But Middlebury was certainly not head and shoulders better than SMC in the criteria that season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2016, 04:42:43 PM
Oswego has been chosen as a sectional site for next weekend's game. They will host Wooster at 7:30 PM following the game between Keene State and Christopher Newport that will take place at 5:30 PM.

The winners will play on Saturday at 7:00 PM for the right to advance to Salem, Va. and the Final Four.

The other Sectional sites are Augustana, Benedictine and Tufts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2016, 04:46:12 PM
Lucky Lakers...first time ever in the Sweet 16 and they get to host a sectional. It doesn't get any better than that. 8-)  Thank God for upsets and mileage charts. ;D      Go Lakers...no sense in stopping now...the stars are aligned and my magic will be working overtime. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2016, 06:58:29 PM
It may have been one of the best weekends of the Division III basketball tournaments in recent history. Upsets, close finishes, buzzer beaters, and more. Survive and advance hasn't fit better as a description than after the first two rounds of this year's championships.

Tonight, Dave McHugh recaps it all on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) tonight. From those who surprised to those who survived. Even the favorites had their moments. Dave will talk to many who are not only still playing, but get a chance to host next weekend and hope it helps them get to the final four.

Hoopsville hits the air at 7pm ET here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/mar6

Guests include (in order of apperance):
- Brian Sortino, Oswego State junior guard
- Jason Leone, Oswego State men's coach
- John Tauer, No. 8 St. Thomas men's coach (Pat Coleman interview)
- Trevor Woodruff, No. 3 Scranton women's coach
- Megan Haughey, Stevens women's coach
- Bob Sheldon, No. 20 Tufts men's coach

You can also tune into the podcast(s) after the show has aired:
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Don't forget you can always interact with us:
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And the Hoopsville Fundraising project is in it's closing days as well, but we have not met the goal. Please consider helping us cover Division III basketball the way it deserves to be covered: http://igg.me/at/hoopsville-fundraiser/x/6029509.

Thanks!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Bryan Sortino and Coach Leone from Oswego State coming up on Hoopsville now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2016, 07:50:29 PM
Good interviews with Oswego's Brian Sortino and Coach Jason Leone by Dave McHugh on Hoopsville. You can still view it on demand. Here's the link:

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/mar6
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on March 07, 2016, 12:11:08 PM
Brian Sortino should be highly considered for All American status this season.
He has be a clutch performer all season and Oswego isn't in the sweet 16 without him.
Congratulations to Oswego and Coach Leone for a fantastic season.
Looking forward to see them in the Final 4.
GO LAKERS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2016, 01:45:14 PM
I'm asking all the people that visit this board to take the time to help get the East Region another player in the All Star game that takes place during the Final Four weekend in Salem Virginia. Go to this link and cast your ballot for Kyle Richardson from Plattsburgh State:

  http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2016/03/nabc-all-star-voting

You may have to click the refresh button if the vote totals already show up. So if they are showing a percentage for each player click refresh. 

You can vote once for each browser you have, so if you have 2 computers vote on each of them. We can only vote from now until noon on Wednesday, so DON'T wait and DO spread the news to your friends.
We need all the help we can muster to get Kyle to Virginia.

You don't have to be a registered user of the D3hoops website. Just pull up the page go to the link and cast your ballot. So get your wives, girl friends, mistresses, sons, daughters, aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents and every friend you have, or ever did have, to jump online and vote as well. Kyle will need all the help he can get because the other regions have more schools than our region does.

Thanks for your help. 8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on March 07, 2016, 02:30:36 PM
Way ahead of you Magicman
I already voted for Mr. Richardson
It would be a great way to end his college career
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
Thanks All Time,

The Cardinals fans are sure hoping we can get him to Virginia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 07, 2016, 07:59:50 PM
Magicman....just voted for your player :). Keep it quite as those Nescac posters can get mean.
Amherst women's hockey team just got beaten by Middlebury for the Nescac title in OT.  Now they have to meet Plattsburgh in your house :'(. As someone said somewhere at some time....be kind and play nice with the Amherst ladies hockey team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 07, 2016, 09:52:00 PM
Magicman, Sorry the Men's hockey Cardinals did not get a bid. According to the hockey board, it looks as if their scheduling ended up not being enough (also they lost to a team they were competing against for a bid, Williams, even though they outshot them by more than 30). Tough sledding getting into the hockey tournament!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2016, 10:15:38 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 07, 2016, 09:52:00 PM
Magicman, Sorry the Men's hockey Cardinals did not get a bid. According to the hockey board, it looks as if their scheduling ended up not being enough (also they lost to a team they were competing against for a bid, Williams, even though they outshot them by more than 30). Tough sledding getting into the hockey tournament!

Had a feeling the news might be bad after the loss on Saturday night. Not a good weekend for the Cardinal men, in any sport. Basketball..lost, Hockey...lost, and Baseball lost 4 of 5. Good thing the Lacrosse team had the weekend off. :D

Did you vote  for Kyle yet?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 07, 2016, 10:21:42 PM
I voted! I'm glad they give a chance for a fan vote.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on March 07, 2016, 10:44:14 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 07, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
Thanks All Time,

The Cardinals fans are sure hoping we can get him to Virginia.

The (Catholic) Cardinal fans are voting for Bryson Fonville.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2016, 12:10:04 AM
Quote from: ronk on March 07, 2016, 10:44:14 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 07, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
Thanks All Time,

The Cardinals fans are sure hoping we can get him to Virginia.

The (Catholic) Cardinal fans are voting for Bryson Fonville.

And I thought you were coming on this board to tell me that you also voted for Kyle Richardson.  ;)

Not very many Catholic fans voting for Fonville...he's in next to last place with only 5% of the vote. You might as well back a winner and vote for Kyle. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on March 08, 2016, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 06, 2016, 04:46:12 PM
Lucky Lakers...first time ever in the Sweet 16 and they get to host a sectional. It doesn't get any better than that. 8-)  Thank God for upsets and mileage charts. ;D      Go Lakers...no sense in stopping now...the stars are aligned and my magic will be working overtime. :D

I don't think "lucky" does it justice...I'd say "miraculous" is more like it.  Enjoy the atmosphere, 'cause hosting a sectional w/the opportunity to get to the final 4 is hard to come by, even if you're having a great season...this is CNU's sixth sweet 16 and they've hosted the sectional once.  Although, I will say that I'm not sure if CNU was able to host in their former facility...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on March 08, 2016, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2016, 12:10:04 AM
Quote from: ronk on March 07, 2016, 10:44:14 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 07, 2016, 02:40:31 PM
Thanks All Time,

The Cardinals fans are sure hoping we can get him to Virginia.

The (Catholic) Cardinal fans are voting for Bryson Fonville.

And I thought you were coming on this board to tell me that you also voted for Kyle Richardson.  ;)

Not very many Catholic fans voting for Fonville...he's in next to last place with only 5% of the vote. You might as well back a winner and vote for Kyle. ;)

I'll have to round up San Juan, Saratoga, Matt LeToureau, and Cards Fan. Of course, you realize that Pat Coleman, as his last official duty, will impose his moderator pick(worth 200 votes) for Fonville.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 08, 2016, 11:23:25 PM
Concordia-Moorhead must have lots of voters out in full force. Richardson now tied for first...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2016, 04:25:28 PM
Richardson's support petered out overnight and didn't fully bounce back this morning. He ended up in third, still with an impressive 18,178 votes. (The cut line was 21,841.)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on March 09, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2016, 04:25:28 PM
Richardson's support petered out overnight and didn't fully bounce back this morning. He ended up in third, still with an impressive 18,178 votes. (The cut line was 21,841.)

I'm impressed with the vote turnout-thought it would be 1% of that #.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2016, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: ronk on March 09, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2016, 04:25:28 PM
Richardson's support petered out overnight and didn't fully bounce back this morning. He ended up in third, still with an impressive 18,178 votes. (The cut line was 21,841.)

I'm impressed with the vote turnout-thought it would be 1% of that #.

The 72,000 total votes was the second-most we've had. Pretty impressed by the fan turnout this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 09, 2016, 11:31:31 PM
Does my write in absentee ballot count??  Flood in In-laws home made voting impossible except for absentee ballot??

Vote:  Richardson  ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2016, 01:09:55 AM
Nice article about Oswego State on the front page of D3hoops. Here's the link:

http://d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2016/oswego-state-long-road-sweet-16
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 03:13:44 AM
Quote from: portgrad2004 on March 12, 2005, 01:00:27 PM
UR2004,

Yeah, that was a great game even with the outcome.  All I remember about that game though was trying to walk back to my dorm during the storm in the wind tunnel that we call Brockport...Almost got blown over a couple times...

Can't lose with tonight's matchup, either a team from the SUNYAC, or a team from the Rochester Area...good luck to both.

Hey look, I have a post on the first page of this board! Under another name that I think must have gotten lost in the message board transition back in the day (or from when I got expelled - I know it happened but neither Pat or I can remember why, but I was difficult in my early posting times)

(This is what insomnia gets you, looking to the first page of the message board)

By the way, the game the post refers to is the 2002 sectional final (elite 8) game at Tuttle North vs. Rochester. The power went out during the game because of the storm mentioned, and the UR fans chanted "State School" . 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2016, 03:50:57 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 03:13:44 AM
Quote from: portgrad2004 on March 12, 2005, 01:00:27 PM
UR2004,

Yeah, that was a great game even with the outcome.  All I remember about that game though was trying to walk back to my dorm during the storm in the wind tunnel that we call Brockport...Almost got blown over a couple times...

Can't lose with tonight's matchup, either a team from the SUNYAC, or a team from the Rochester Area...good luck to both.

Hey look, I have a post on the first page of this board! Under another name that I think must have gotten lost in the message board transition back in the day (or from when I got expelled - I know it happened but neither Pat or I can remember why, but I was difficult in my early posting times)

(This is what insomnia gets you, looking to the first page of the message board)

By the way, the game the post refers to is the 2002 sectional final (elite 8) game at Tuttle North vs. Rochester. The power went out during the game because of the storm mentioned, and the UR fans chanted "State School" .

That sounds like Rochester fans. When Plattsburgh State played Rochester in the first round of the NCAA tournament on March 2nd 2007, the game took place on St. John Fisher's court. Rochester scored with just a couple of seconds left in the game to go up by a 60-58 score. Plattsburgh's All American guard, Anthony Williams, launched a perfect form, jump shot, from half court, that was nothing but net as the buzzer sounded. Plattsburgh wins 61-60. There were many more Rochester fans in attendance than there were Plattsburgh State fans. Amidst the joyous shouts of the Plattsburgh faithful came the following chant from the Rochester student section:  That's alright, that's OK, you will work for us someday. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2016, 03:06:15 PM
Friday's NCAA Game  Wooster at Oswego State 

Oswego State makes it onto the Sweet 16 for the first time in the school's history. Thanks to a couple of upsets in the first 2 rounds of the tournament and the NCAA's policy of keeping flights in D3 to a minimum, the Lakers get to host the Sectional over higher regionally ranked teams. Because every other possible host in the bracket would have required more flights than Oswego, the Lakers geographic location becomes a plus. 8-)

The oddsmakers have made the visiting Wooster Scots a 5 point favorite in this game which is the first meeting ever between these two teams. Wooster comes into this game, like Oswego, as the recipient of one of the 19 at large bids awarded by the NCAA committee. They were tied for the top spot in their league with Ohio Wesleyan both having a conference record of 15-3 (now 23-7 overall) but were the 2nd seed in the North Coast Athletic Conference Tournament. They made it to the championship game but were upset by Denison in that game, which led to their at large entry into the dance. The NCAC conference, like the SUNYAC, got 3 teams into the NCAA tournament and still have Ohio Wesleyan and Wooster alive in the Sweet 16.

The Lakers enter the Sectional round with a 22-8 overall record and I think they match up well with the Scots.       Wooster is led by 6'6" junior forward Dan Fanelly who averages 15 ppg and 5.5 rpg. Fanelly had 45 points in the Scots first round game against Lancaster Bible and followed that up with a 20 point output against Endicott as he led the Scots in scoring for both games. 6'2" sophomore guard Spencer Williams is 2nd on the team in scoring for the season with 14.7 ppg and he had double figures in both games last weekend as well, getting 14 on Friday  and 19 on Saturday. The Scots round out their starting five with 6'6" senior center Josh Kipfer(7.6 ppg. 5.6 rpg) and a pair of freshman guards. 6'0" frosh Mitch Baiser (9.2 ppg, 3.1 apg) and 6'2" frosh Reece Dupler (9,1 ppg). They have juggled their starting five throughout the season with only Williams starting in every game but these five seem to be the flavor of the month. Coming off the bench and providing solid help is 6'3" junior forward Milt Davis (7.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg). Wooster's bench got considerably shorter when 6'6" senior forward Alex LaLonde (8.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg) must have been injured in mid February. He hasn't played since a game against Allegheny on February 17th. That could be a big factor in this game as bench points for the Scots have dropped off considerably since the loss of LaLonde.
 
The Scots are a fairly young team with only 2 seniors in their rotation and look to have a rosy future with all the returning talent. Oswego's team, on the other hand is composed almost entirely of juniors and seniors. There are no sophomores on the team and only 2 freshman that don't receive much playing time yet. The Lakers have been relying on an 8 man rotation but they also were a man short in their last game as 6'5" junior forward Dustin Pond didn't set foot on the court against Gwynedd Mercy. I hope that was only a 1 game absence because they will need all the bodies they can muster this weekend, especially if they advance and face Christopher Newport, who has a very deep team.

The Lakers with Mykelle Krecko or Mark Candelario bottling up the middle could cause problems for the Scots offense. The Scots big gun, Fanelly, is prone to getting in foul trouble and has fouled out of 10 games. If I were Coach Leone, I'd be going right at him from the opening tip off. Skidmore did that and Fanelly played a total of 7 minutes as the Throughbreds beat the Scots in Wooster 72-63 back in November. Hopefully the Lakers trio of Sortino, Covely, and Rawa will be hot from downtown and win the battle from the 3 point arc. Wooster likes to hoist them up as well, but not quite as much as the Lakers will.

On defense it will be interesting to see who Wooster assigns to guard Brian Sortino. Wooster likes to play a fast paced high scoring game and I think the Lakers will try and make this more of a deliberate defensive minded contest. Despite the fact that the Scots are favored by 5 points, I'm picking the Lakers to pull off the upset here by a 78-74 final score.

GO LAKERS

GO BRIAN SORTINO I've got you on two of my NCAA Fantasy Teams. ;D       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 05:47:24 PM
Oswego really needs to make its video window larger. It shouldn't vary between a little box with huge Oswego Ad on the side and full screen. They should take a note from CNU's feed.

Edit: I figured out you need to push "dim the lights" which makes no freakin' sense to get a bigger screen.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2016, 09:28:53 PM
Oswego has been trailing thoughout most of the game. The video feed is atrocious, the worst one in the tournament. I know it's not me because I've had other posters from all over the country tell me they have had major problems trying to get the feed and then can't keep it once they do get it.

Oswego had finally caught the Scots at 61-61 on a Brian Sortino jumper. And then Mark Candelario scores with 1:09 to put the Lakers in front 63-61.

41 seconds left and the Lakers almost get a turnover but the refs call a foul and the Lakers take a time out.

Fanelly scores for Wooster and is fouled and Wooster goes back in front 64-63.


Sortino comes down and drives to the hoop and is fouled. He makes both free throws and Oswego goes back in front with 16 seconds left to play, 65-64.

Time out on the floor and Wooster will inbound the ball. They come down and work the ball to their man Fanelly...he makes his move to the hoop and throws up an off balance shot and the official calls a foul on Kyle Covely. Fanelly makes both free throws to put Wooster up by 1 and when Oswego hustles up court to try and get a final shot off the refs make no call as Sortino is closely guarded and possibly fouled.

Tough losss for the Lakers. Congrats on playing a great game and going as far as you did.

Both Cortland State and Oswego State's seasons come to an end as they lose in the last 5 seconds of their games on a called foul that puts the opposition on the line to gain the lead and almost no chance to score and tie the game up or win it.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 09:49:59 PM
Oh those refs  ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 12:25:56 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 09:49:59 PM
Oh those refs  ::)

I was at Oswego for the first game...sadly, my team lost...but as a neutral observer of the second game, the officiating in the final minute was questionable at best.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 12, 2016, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 12:25:56 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 09:49:59 PM
Oh those refs  ::)

I was at Oswego for the first game...sadly, my team lost...but as a neutral observer of the second game, the officiating in the final minute was questionable at best.

Sorry Keene State lost :(. They kept pace most of the game, and the team should be proud of what they've done!

I'm glad that someone who was there was also a little iffy on some of the calls. Can't blame it on home cookin' though  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 12:48:52 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 12, 2016, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 12:25:56 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 09:49:59 PM
Oh those refs  ::)

I was at Oswego for the first game...sadly, my team lost...but as a neutral observer of the second game, the officiating in the final minute was questionable at best.

Sorry Keene State lost :(. They kept pace most of the game, and the team should be proud of what they've done!

I'm glad that someone who was there was also a little iffy on some of the calls. Can't blame it on home cookin' though  ;D

They did...Keene just missed opportunities when it was tied with 8 or 9 minutes left that you need to capitalize on to beat good teams.  After all the tribulations, a good Sweet 16 run though that I truthfully did not expect.

Of note, all of the referees at Oswego tonight I have seen floating around various New England venues this year.  The NCAA must take refs and put them in unfamiliar territory for the tournament.

The calls at the end of Oswego-Wooster game were strange given the calls throughout other portions of the game...and they must have called a record number of offensive fouls in the Keene State-CNU game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 12, 2016, 12:52:17 AM
Quote from: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 12:48:52 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 12, 2016, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 12:25:56 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 09:49:59 PM
Oh those refs  ::)

I was at Oswego for the first game...sadly, my team lost...but as a neutral observer of the second game, the officiating in the final minute was questionable at best.

Sorry Keene State lost :(. They kept pace most of the game, and the team should be proud of what they've done!

I'm glad that someone who was there was also a little iffy on some of the calls. Can't blame it on home cookin' though  ;D

They did...Keene just missed opportunities when it was tied with 8 or 9 minutes left that you need to capitalize on to beat good teams.  After all the tribulations, a good Sweet 16 run though that I truthfully did not expect.

Of note, all of the referees at Oswego tonight I have seen floating around various New England venues this year.  The NCAA must take refs and put them in unfamiliar territory for the tournament.

You should be thankful to have not had to watch the games on video. The video feed wasn't very good (and neither were the announcers, apparently, according to a Wooster poster on their own board - but I had it on mute). It cut out and froze a lot. All of the other sites had it very together IMO.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2016, 01:53:24 AM
Quote from: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 12:25:56 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 09:49:59 PM
Oh those refs  ::)

I was at Oswego for the first game...sadly, my team lost...but as a neutral observer of the second game, the officiating in the final minute was questionable at best.

Thanks for letting me know about that AllStar. I was rooting for Keene State as much as I rooted for Oswego State. I thought the foul that was called against Covely of Oswego that sent Fanelly to the line for the game winning free throws was questionable. Our video feed was lousy but it appeared that he threw up an off balance shot that was a poor shot selection and the ref kind of bailed him out with the whistle. Then I read that it was a hook shot according to Wooster's website. Not my idea of a high percentage shot to be taking with the game on the line unless you're Kareem with a sky hook.

Also hard to tell what happened with Sortino's final move to get upcourt and make something happen. Tough to have both Cortland and Oswego sent home on last second free throws without much hope of a countermove. The SUNYAC hasn't gotten any breaks in the past few years.  :P   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 03:02:37 PM
Magicman:

All I know is if that was my team I probably wouldn't be very happy with those calls!   ;D  It is interesting that those were refs who have floated around New England venues at Oswego last night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2016, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: AllStar on March 12, 2016, 03:02:37 PM
Magicman:

All I know is if that was my team I probably wouldn't be very happy with those calls!   ;D  It is interesting that those were refs who have floated around New England venues at Oswego last night.

AllStar,
I'm told that's usually what the NCAA does...they bring in refs from a region different than the region that the host school is from and also not supposed to be from the opponents region either.

When Plattsburgh hosted the first round last weekend we weren't too happy that the referees were also from New England, which is where our opponent Fitchburg State was from. We were expecting a crew from the Atlantic Region, which would have made it a neutral crew. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 01:53:33 AM
Note on that... last weekend I was told the refs couldn't have had either of the teams the last two years. While the refs came from the Buffalo area, they hadn't had Oswego in that time... and Jason indicated to me he had a theory on that (don't all coaches?!).

I know in the Benedictine Sectional, where I was this weekend, one of the refs was rotated out (I think) at some point - possibly before the game - because they had St. Norbert in a game recently.

The NCAA takes this seriously and while people like to complain about that stuff... the refs don't have a bias. They may call the game differently, but that is up to the teams to make adjustments because you can't win a championship unless you adjust your style.

I was reminded of this on the way to Chicago this weekend watching a tape-delayed broadcast of Man U v Liverpool in UEFA Championship play. The commentators pointed out that the ref was calling a good game including solid yellow cards (at least 6), but that in a Premiere League game between the two, some of those yellows might not have been cards or calls - because the refs are used to them. In UEFA play, the refs are from elsewhere.

One other note on the end of the Oswego game - I was watching (while on the call in Benedictine) and it looked to me like the ref closest to the final play took a big step backward at contact - a usual sign they don't want to make a call. I couldn't tell because of my situation if a call should have been made, but that was an interesting indication to me.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2016, 08:16:41 PM
D3hoops has released their All-Region Teams today.

Kyle Richardson from Plattsburgh State has been named the Player of the Year.

Brian Sortino from Oswego State has been named to the All-Region 1st Team.

Justin Ringen from Geneseo State has been named to the All-Region 2nd Team.

Congratuations to our 3 SUNYAC players on their awards.

A special congratulations to Kyle Richardson. I sat courtside for 26 of the games he played in, over his past 2 years at Plattsburgh State. I watched another 25+ games online.  He was always worth the price of admission. 8-) It's never easy seeing your favorite players graduate and move on. You wish their careers were just beginning, instead of ending. I have no doubt that Kyle will be just as successful in his future career as he was on the hardwood.

Here's a link to the complete All East Region Team:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2015-16/east-men

Here's a link to every one of the All-Regions teams across the country. Click on whatever region you want to view:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2015-16/index

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 14, 2016, 08:47:21 PM
Congrats to the 3 very worthy SUNYAC players and all the all-region selections across the nation.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2016, 05:07:44 AM
The NABC announced the players and coaches for the Reese's Division III College All-Star game. A surprising but welcome addition to the all star team roster was the D3hoops East Region Player of the Year, Kyle Richardson.

It's kind of a mystery how the consensus best player in the region was left off the all star team in the first place. I understand that the players are awarded their place on the all star team based on a determination by the NABC as to who the best players in each region are. This is done by a vote of all the coaches in the region and then tabulated to see who will garner the NABC's year end awards in each region and ultimately their All-American awards as well.

The top 2 players in each of the 8 regions make up the all star teams. To round out the teams there is the nationwide voting that took place from Monday March 7th till noon on Wednesday March 9th. The top two votegetters in that popularity contest are then added to the all star teams. That makes a total of 18 players, 9 for the East and 9 for the West.

There was some spirited voting going on with over 72,500 votes cast and our candidate, Kyle, came up a bit short as he was in 3rd place, missing out on the coveted top 2 spots. Our Guru had this to say about the support that Kyle received.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2016, 04:25:28 PM
Richardson's support petered out overnight and didn't fully bounce back this morning. He ended up in third, still with an impressive 18,178 votes. (The cut line was 21,841.)

Needless to say I was a bit disappointed to see that Kyle didn't grab one of the top 2 spots in the fan voting that took place.

Mostly I was disappointed to see that he even needed to be voted onto the all star team. I felt that the Player of the Year in the SUNYAC conference would be the 1st or certainly no worse than 2nd best player in the region. The SUNYAC was the top conference in the East Region, not just in my opinion but in the NCAA's eyes as well, with 3 or 4 SUNYAC teams listed in every one of their weekly rankings leading up to selection Monday. They were rewarded with 3 teams in the NCAA tournament.

To further back up my belief that Kyle was the top player in the East Region was the announcement on Tuesday that the D3hoops East Region Player of the Year was indeed, Kyle Richardson. That outstanding award, however, doesn't guarantee Kyle a spot on the NABC All Star Team. The results of the NABC vote would and those results haven't been released yet.

So the question that needs to be asked here is... how is Kyle now on the all star teams? He apparently wasn't one of the top 2 players in the East Region or he wouldn't have needed to be voted on by the fan vote. If he wasn't one of the top 2 players in the East Region then who were they?

I guess it's safe to assume that Mitch Ford from Nazareth was one of the top 2 players as he made the all star team. The only other player listed from the East is Kyle.

Sometimes a player that is one of the top 2 players in a region is playing in the Final Four and therefore he can't participate in the all star game so they name an alternate from his region. That wasn't the case in the East Region. There are no Final Four players from the East. So no alternate was required. In the Central Region, Lucas Johnson could be the NABC Player of the Year, but his team, Benedictine, is playing in the Final Four. Lucas can't play in the All Star Game and the FF. So it's possible that a player that wasn't one of the top 2 players in that region has been named as an alternate.

Sometimes a player that is named to the All Star team just can't make it or doesn't want to go. That could be a possibility here but I would certainly like to know who the NABC voted into a top spot in place of Kyle. I have a good idea who that would be but I'll wait for another day to rip that decision, if in fact that is the case.

One final observation...The teams are East vs West. I see the West has 3 players, since one of the West players won the fan voting. I also noticed that all 3 of the West players are on the West team. The East has 2 players and they are also on the West team. ???  I understand you have to round out the teams with guards and forwards and height issues, but I think there are enough players that if you can put all 3 West players on the West team, you certainly should be able to put the only 2 players who are from the East region on the East team.  ::)

Middle Atlantic, Atlantic, South or Central on the West team you can get away with, but somehow East players on the West team, in an East-West matchup, just sounds downright foolish. ;D                       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: dcahill44 on March 17, 2016, 07:52:18 AM
Evan Kupferburg NYU was the other in the voting along with Mitch Ford Nazareth. Richardson was 3rd and Kupferburg couldnt attend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2016, 01:24:18 PM
The NABC released their All District Teams this morning.

The East District Player of the Year is Kyle Richardson of Plattsburgh State.

The Coach of the Year is Tom Spanbauer of Cortland State.

First Team     
Pos. Player                    School                  Yr. Hometown
G Deshon Burgess        Union                     Jr. Scottdale, Ga.
G Brian Sortino            Oswego State          Jr. Fairport, N.Y.
G Sam Borst-Smith      Rochester                Jr. San Pedro, Calif. 
F Kyle Richardson        Plattsburgh State     Sr. Baldwin, N.Y.
F Evan Kupferberg       New York University Sr. Boca Raton, Fla.
C Mitch Ford                Nazareth                 Sr. Victor, N.Y.

Second Team
G Trevor Norton           Hartwick                 Sr. Mullica Hill, N.J.
G Justin Ringen            Geneseo State        Jr. Huntington, N.Y.
G Blair Estarfaa            Cortland State        Sr. Buffalo, N. Y.
F Keegan Ryan             St. John Fisher       Jr.  Plattsburgh, N.Y.
F CJ Dunston               Lancaster Bible       Sr. Elkton, Md.


A complete list of all the districts can be found at this link:

http://www.nabc.org/landing/index
 

Once again congratulations to these players and to all the players across the D3 landscape that provided us with so many outstanding moments on the courts across the country this year. Hopefully 4 more great games this weekend with the 2 semifinal games, the All Star game and the championship game to end the season. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2016, 03:17:02 PM
Quote from: dcahill44 on March 17, 2016, 07:52:18 AM
Evan Kupferburg NYU was the other in the voting along with Mitch Ford Nazareth. Richardson was 3rd and Kupferburg couldnt attend.

dcahill,
Not sure where you got your information from, but I don't see how Kyle Richardson was 3rd when he obviously is 1st if he is the East District Player of the Year.

Which, now that we know for a fact that Kyle Richardson is the NABC Player of the Year, begs the question...how was he not immediately named to the NABC Reese's All Star Game roster. Since that roster is comprised of the top 2 players in each region and we now know that Kyle was the top player in the East region, how did he end up in the fan voting that took place last week, to try and get added to an All Star team, that he already should have been on?

When I saw that Kyle was one of the 8 players on the ballot who needed to be voted onto the All Star team by the fans, I was quite disappointed because that told me he wasn't one of the top 2 players in the East Region. The All District Teams that were released this morning were determined by the NABC coaches in the East Region, from their year end votes on the players in the East Region, and were turned in back on March 4th. Once those ballots were tabulated, the top two players were selected for the Reese's All Star Team. So Kyle, as the East District Player of the Year, should never have been one of the players listed to be added to the All Star team by a popular vote.

And as the East District's Player of the Year, the implications that he was selected for the All Star game because someone else (Evan Kupferberg) couldn't go, makes no sense. The Player of the Year in the district always goes to the All Star game, unless he has a personal reason that prevents him from doing so.     

Something mighty strange going on here, but I see no one coming forward with any answers.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2016, 04:15:01 PM
Today at 1:00 PM the NABC released their Division III All-American Teams.

Plattsburgh State's Kyle Richardson has been named a First Team All-American. Congratulations Kyle.

Nazareth's Mitch Ford has been named a Second Team all-American.

NYU's Evan Kupferberg has been named a Third Team All-American 

Here's the complete list of the NABC All-American teams.

National Association of Basketball Coaches Announces  2016 NABC Coaches' Division III All-America Teams

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (March 17, 2016) -- The National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC)announced today the 2016 NABC Coaches' Division III All-America teams. Selected and voted on by member coaches of the NABC in NCAA Division III, these student-athletes represent the most outstandingbasketball players across America in their division.


2016 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM

Jordan Bolger, Concordia Moorhead, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Apple Valley, Minn.
Marcus Carter, Christopher Newport, 6-2, Sophomore, Guard, Williamsburg, Va.
AJ Edwards, Marietta, 6-5, Junior, Forward, Twinsburg, Ohio
Joey Flannery, Babson, 6-5, Junior, Guard/Forward, Acton, Mass.
Alex Graves, Lynchburg, 6-4, Senior, Forward, Waynesboro, Va.
Hunter Hill, Augustana, 5-9, Senior, Guard, Byron, Ill.
Jordan McDaniel, Rutgers-Newark, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Colonia, N.J.
Kyle Richardson, Plattsburgh State, 6-4, Senior, Guard/Forward, Baldwin, N.Y.


2016 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA SECOND TEAM

Will Fonseca, Staten Island, 6-5, Senior, Forward, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Mitch Ford, Nazareth, 6-5, Senior Forward, Victor, N.Y.
Ted Hinnenkamp, Dickinson, 6-7, Senior, Guard/Forward, York, Pa.
Sterling Holmes, Texas Lutheran, 6-0, Junior, Guard, San Antonio, Texas
Luke Johnson, Benedictine, 6-9, Senior, Forward, Naperville, Ill.
Scott Nikodemski, Alma, 6-1, Senior, Guard, Rockford, Mich.
Andre Norris, Dubuque, 6-7, Senior, Forward, Plainfield, Ill.
Jordan Rezendes, UMass Dartmouth, 6-2, Senior, Guard, Onset, Mass.


2016 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA THIRD TEAM

Shay Ajayi, Trinity College, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Nate Axelrod, Ohio Wesleyan, 5-7, Sophomore, Guard, Dublin, Ohio
Brendan Boken, Scranton, 6-6, Senior, Forward/Center, South Pasadena, Calif.
Anthony Gaines, Jr., Louisiana College, 6-4, Senior, Guard/Forward, Shreveport, La.
Evan Kupferburg, NYU, 6-6, Senior, Forward, Boca Raton, Fla.
Ty Sabin, Ripon, 6-2, Junior, Guard, New Berlin, Wis.
Jamail Stanley, Old Westbury, 6-2, Junior, Guard, Syracuse, N.Y.
George Valle, Whitworth, 6-4, Senior, Guard, Bellevue, Wash.

Congratulations to all these players on achieving such great recognition for the hard work and countless hours they've put into reaching this goal.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 17, 2016, 04:18:12 PM
Being on the 1st team All-American also adds some curiosity to what you posted before, Magicman. It does seem a bit backward, who knows.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2016, 04:07:01 PM
A couple of thunderous dunks made by Kyle Richardson in the first half of the NABC DIII All Star game today. Kyle also displayed his passing skills on several nice feeds to his teammates.

Kyle ended his collegiate career with another double-double today in the All Star game. Just another day at the office for Kyle. His All Star team was the West team and they lost to the East Team but certainly not because of Kyle's play. Congrats on a job well done Kyle.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2016, 05:44:44 PM
D3hoops Guru Pat Coleman and Hoopsville's Dave McHugh just announced, live on the Hoopsville Pre-Game show from Salem, the D3hoops All-American Teams.

Kyle Richardson from Plattsburgh State was named to the D3hoops Second Team

Brian Sortino from Oswego State was named to the D3hoops Third Team

The SUNYAC was one of very few conferences that had 2 players make the All-American Teams.

Great job by these 2 outstanding players to gain this national honor.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 19, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
Good luck to the Plattsburgh Women's Ice Hockey team in the national championship game tonight!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 19, 2016, 08:27:19 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 19, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
Good luck to the Plattsburgh Women's Ice Hockey team in the national championship game tonight!

Cardinal Ladies leading 4-1 after 2 periods. Go Cards Finish the threepeat off.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 19, 2016, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 19, 2016, 08:27:19 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 19, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
Good luck to the Plattsburgh Women's Ice Hockey team in the national championship game tonight!

Cardinal Ladies leading 4-1 after 2 periods. Go Cards Finish the threepeat off.

I tuned in after the basketball when it was still 3-1. Looks like the threepeat is in reach. They're playing great.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 19, 2016, 09:02:55 PM
Further congrats to the Geneseo Men's hockey team for defeating Williams 2-1 tonight and advancing to the D3 Frozen Four. I hope an emotional year for the blue knights can end in a championship!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 20, 2016, 01:27:54 PM
Cardinal Ladies win the National Championship in hockey by defeating UW-River Falls 5-1 on Saturday. This is the 3rd straight National Championship for the Plattsburgh State Women which puts them in pretty rarified company.

Hope the Geneseo Men can win the National Championship at the upcoming Frozen Four. If the Ice Knights can pull that off it would be a awesome year for the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 21, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
Kyle Richardson played in his final game as a Division III basketball player on Saturday afternoon at the NABC All-Star Game in Salem, Virginia. Like he did so many times this year, Kyle went out with a bang recording a double-double to end his collegiate career. Kyle ended up with 14 points and 11 rebounds. He also had 3 assists and a steal. He was the only player on either team to record a double-double.

Anyone wishing to see the All-Star game can do so by clicking on the link below:


http://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball-men/d3

Click on the desired video when the link comes up.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 21, 2016, 03:49:58 PM
Magicman... the best I can try and explain it on the NABC side is that the decisions to pick just two players from each region to play in the All-Star game is going on separately from the All-District and thus All-American voting. They can't wait until that voting is complete to line up players to come to Salem for the All-Star game. They are working on that game two/three weeks in advance. So you are trying to make your argument based on information after the fact for the committee trying to select the all-stars for the game. Sure, it looks odd, but I can assure you the committee is working very hard to figure out who should be at the game and I know it can get very political behind the scenes (not for them, but for those lobbying them). And it isn't cut and dry. In the Great Lakes, several of the conferences had Player of the Year nods go to non-seniors making it a bit more complicated (easy to start your selections with the POYs and go from there).

I see why you would be perplexed, but if you realize there are basically two difference committees working on different agendas, it might make more sense. Basically, the all-star committee is trying to pick guys to come to an event while voting for All-District and All-American has even started let alone is no where close to finishing.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 22, 2016, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 21, 2016, 03:49:58 PM
Magicman... the best I can try and explain it on the NABC side is that the decisions to pick just two players from each region to play in the All-Star game is going on separately from the All-District and thus All-American voting. They can't wait until that voting is complete to line up players to come to Salem for the All-Star game. They are working on that game two/three weeks in advance. So you are trying to make your argument based on information after the fact for the committee trying to select the all-stars for the game. Sure, it looks odd, but I can assure you the committee is working very hard to figure out who should be at the game and I know it can get very political behind the scenes (not for them, but for those lobbying them). And it isn't cut and dry. In the Great Lakes, several of the conferences had Player of the Year nods go to non-seniors making it a bit more complicated (easy to start your selections with the POYs and go from there).

I see why you would be perplexed, but if you realize there are basically two difference committees working on different agendas, it might make more sense. Basically, the all-star committee is trying to pick guys to come to an event while voting for All-District and All-American has even started let alone is no where close to finishing.

Dave,
Thanks for the reply.

Coach Curle basically told me the same thing when he got back from Salem. There were recommendations made without doing due diligence on who had the best season in the East Region. Upon further review it was quite clear who should have been chosen. Fortunately for all those involved it all worked out in the end. :D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 22, 2016, 11:37:51 AM
It is a tough process on the committee trying to put it all together. They are taking the temperature of things, they are trying to adjust for teams in or out of the tournament along with who may or may not make it to Salem anyway... then adjusting for those who may or may not be interested in participating. You have to make a guess on the fan vote after just ONE weekend of the tournament while you are holding in reserve players you think will be on the roster when the 16 teams are whittled down to 4... it is a moving target to say the least.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on March 23, 2016, 09:43:42 AM
Gentlemen,
It has been a fantastic season of SUNYAC Hoops.
I thoroughly enjoyed the wonderful posts you guys put on the boards each and every night.
I wanted to wish everyone a wonderful spring and summer.
Enjoy the fantastic weather and get out a play a lot of golf.
Until next season.
8-)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on March 26, 2016, 09:56:43 PM
Hey guys, quick question. So SUNY-Canton isn't in the SUNYAC as of last year, but I saw that they are making the transition to become fully D3. Does that mean they will be independent for awhile or are they planning to join the SUNYAC? If anyone has any info I would love to know!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 26, 2016, 11:40:31 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 26, 2016, 09:56:43 PM
Hey guys, quick question. So SUNY-Canton isn't in the SUNYAC as of last year, but I saw that they are making the transition to become fully D3. Does that mean they will be independent for awhile or are they planning to join the SUNYAC? If anyone has any info I would love to know!

Smitty,

To the best of my knowledge Canton will not be joining the SUNYAC. They may want to but I don't think the conference wants an uneven number of teams. Currently there are 10 teams in the YAC and since the conference plays a double round robin that means 18 conference games. I don't believe they want to go to 20 conference games, which they would have to do with 11 teams.

Several years ago 2006-07 there were as many as 12 teams in the SUNYAC, as Morrisville State and SUNYIT were members of the conference. The conference was broken into two division of 6 teams each, an East and West. An East team played the other 5 teams in the East twice and the 6 teams in the West once for a total of 16 games. Then SUNYIT left the conference and joined the weaker NEAC conference after the 2007-08 season, because they thought they would have a better chance of winning a conference and getting an automatic bid. (Which was true and they have won that conference several times since leaving the SUNYAC) They never went to the NCAA tournament while they were a member of the SUNYAC conference.

With 11 teams in the SUNYAC after the departure of SUNYIT it left the conference with an unbalanced schedule for the 2008-09 season. The teams still played 16 conference games by playing 6 teams twice and 4 teams once to make 16 games, but it wasn't an ideal situation. After the 2008-09 season Morrisville State decided to follow SUNYIT to the NEAC conference, seeking a way to make the NCAA tournament. It worked out well for them also as they have won the NEAC's automatic bid 3 times since joining the conference.

Starting with the 2009-10 season the SUNYAC with 10 teams has played the 18 game, double round robin schedule, mentioned above.

I would think Canton's best bet of joining a conference would be to seek admission to the NEAC. That conference presently has 13 teams split into 2 divisions, North and South. The North division has 6 teams and plays 17 conference games. The South division has 7 teams and plays 18 conference games. Canton is closer to all the teams in the North division so it would seem to be a good match to slip them into the NEAC North and then everybody in the conference would play 18 conference games. That would be my guess as to where Canton may end up but it is only a guess on my part and I have no actual information suggesting that will happen.     

Perhaps the possibility exists down the road, that Canton and another state school (possibly Alfred State who is also  joining Division III)might wish to join the SUNYAC. Then, there would be 12 schools and 2 divisions as before which would be more feasible then having just 1 school added. I just don't think that will happen.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on March 27, 2016, 12:06:26 PM
Thanks a ton for the post magicman, full of some pertinent info! After my original post I came across this article (http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2015-16/suny-canton-independent), it gave me a lot of insight on the current status for Canton. The D3 conference I follow most closely is the MIAC, where there is 11 men's basketball teams, so each team plays a 20 game conference schedule. I am so used to it I never really thought anything of it, however, it does severely limit the non-conference schedule and I can understand why the SUNYAC would not want to make that move. Now the MIAC just needs another team to join to create two divisions....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 28, 2016, 11:41:59 AM
I can tell you that Canton is not joining the SUNYAC anytime in the near future. They actually tried to join the NEAC the last few years. But in January, that conference voted to deny them and Alfred State and put a moratorium in place for the next two years. Canton and Alfred State basically don't have a home and I am not sure where they will find a home in the near future.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on April 27, 2016, 11:14:42 PM
God must have something really special planned for Buffalo State next season!

Another young member of the BENGALS family has passed away!  Hezekiah Johnson, became a honorary member of the BENGALS this past season. I was his ride to and from our home games, so we often had chances to talk away from the court. He even traveled with the team for road games at Brockport, Fredonia and Geneseo. We even went to play Lazertron and went to see "Star Wars" Christmas night. He had an infectious happy spirit which everyone on the team enjoyed. For all the stuff he was going through, he never complained!

http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/news/2015/12/7/MBB_1207155139.aspx

He passed away, at the age of 18 years old last week. Funeral is tomorrow!

May "Hezzie" rest in peace!

BENGAL family...... forever!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 29, 2016, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on April 27, 2016, 11:14:42 PM
God must have something really special planned for Buffalo State next season!

Another young member of the BENGALS family has passed away!  Hezekiah Johnson, became a honorary member of the BENGALS this past season. I was his ride to and from our home games, so we often had chances to talk away from the court. He even traveled with the team for road games at Brockport, Fredonia and Geneseo. We even went to play Lazertron and went to see "Star Wars" Christmas night. He had an infectious happy spirit which everyone on the team enjoyed. For all the stuff he was going through, he never complained!

http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/news/2015/12/7/MBB_1207155139.aspx

He passed away, at the age of 18 years old last week. Funeral is tomorrow!

May "Hezzie" rest in peace!

BENGAL family...... forever!


Sorry to hear that news Champ. I remember when that news article making him an honorary Bengal was released back in December. Sad that he couldn't get the kidney that would have given him a new lease on life.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 29, 2016, 05:00:50 PM
It was nice to see 3 SUNYAC teams in the final D3hoops poll.

Oswego at #21, Cortland State at #28 and Plattsburgh State at #29. With a little luck we could have had 3 teams in the Top 25.

Next year will find another extremely competitive conference race. I think Cortland and Plattsburgh have the nucleus for another decent season. Oswego lost a lot of talent but with Brian Sortino and Mykelle Krecko back they have possibilities. Geneseo only lost 2 players and with Justin Ringen and John Decker returning, they will be in the playoffs.   Brockport should be solid again as well, with 5 of their top 6 scorers back. Fredonia will look to move up the ladder as they should continue to improve.

Everybody could be chasing Buffalo State though as I think they return more talent than anybody. How all that talent comes together on the court will be the question mark, but right now they are the frontrunners, I believe.  Of course after seeing my Cardinals when they come back in the fall I might change my mind.  ;D  I do know we'll have one or two surprises to unveil. 8-)

Practice starts in 170 days.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 29, 2016, 05:19:35 PM
Potsdam State has hired a new coach and only had to go 10 miles down the road to find him. Jim Bechtel who has been the coach at SUNY-Canton for the past few years will take over the Bears

This seems like a good hire for the Bears. Canton has improved steadily under his guidance. Seems like a good recruiter and has a solid 10 year resume.
Hope the Bears find their way back to respectability. Here's a link to the news release:

http://www.potsdambears.com/news/2016/4/28/bechtelMBB042916.aspx

The Lady Bears also got a new coach as Brittany Cohen, former 2 time SUNYAC Player of the Year at Cortland State just a few years ago, will take over the reins of the women's basketball program. Cohen's grandfather was longtime Bear's assistant coach Stan Cohen, who passed away last year. Her dad is Hal Cohen who was a starter for Syracuse University's basketball team back in the late 70's. Britanny's most recent job was working for the NBA's Dallas Mavericks. Here's the news release on her hire:

http://www.potsdambears.com/news/2016/4/28/cohenWBB042816.aspx   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on April 29, 2016, 10:50:40 PM
For what it's worth, I like both hires. He knows the area and did a very nice job at SUNY-Canton. She knows the conference and has a nice array of coaching experience.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on May 01, 2016, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: magicman on April 29, 2016, 04:27:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on April 27, 2016, 11:14:42 PM
God must have something really special planned for Buffalo State next season!

Another young member of the BENGALS family has passed away!  Hezekiah Johnson, became a honorary member of the BENGALS this past season. I was his ride to and from our home games, so we often had chances to talk away from the court. He even traveled with the team for road games at Brockport, Fredonia and Geneseo. We even went to play Lazertron and went to see "Star Wars" Christmas night. He had an infectious happy spirit which everyone on the team enjoyed. For all the stuff he was going through, he never complained!

http://www.buffalostateathletics.com/news/2015/12/7/MBB_1207155139.aspx

He passed away, at the age of 18 years old last week. Funeral is tomorrow!

May "Hezzie" rest in peace!

BENGAL family...... forever!


Sorry to hear that news Champ. I remember when that news article making him an honorary Bengal was released back in December. Sad that he couldn't get the kidney that would have given him a new lease on life.

Thanks magic. Sad indeed!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: irapthor on May 10, 2016, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 05:31:41 PM


Will do ( info on the new Paltz particulars)

On a lighter note the attached is the write up that the NJCU website has up on yesterdays game!  If you, or anyone else on these boards, have ever seen a better one, I'll buy the next 2 subs!

"Epic Battle"

http://www.njcugothicknights.com/news/2015/12/29/201512-29_MBASKETBALL_vs_Buffalo_State.aspx


Bengalsrule, I'm just seeing this now, but thank you for the compliment...I have a lot of pride in how I cover all sports, including college basketball and aim to do it 'the right way'...Glad even the fans of the opposing teams can enjoy it...

--Ira Thor
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on May 16, 2016, 08:26:22 PM
Quote from: irapthor on May 10, 2016, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2015, 05:31:41 PM


Will do ( info on the new Paltz particulars)

On a lighter note the attached is the write up that the NJCU website has up on yesterdays game!  If you, or anyone else on these boards, have ever seen a better one, I'll buy the next 2 subs!

"Epic Battle"

http://www.njcugothicknights.com/news/2015/12/29/201512-29_MBASKETBALL_vs_Buffalo_State.aspx


Bengalsrule, I'm just seeing this now, but thank you for the compliment...I have a lot of pride in how I cover all sports, including college basketball and aim to do it 'the right way'...Glad even the fans of the opposing teams can enjoy it...

--Ira Thor

Glad to meet you (via d3hoops) Ira.  Wish our folks in Buffalo could write up a game like you do!  The best I've seen in years! Heck I just read it again for extra measure!!  Look forward to reading some more of your posts in the upcoming season!   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on May 16, 2016, 08:39:02 PM
Quote from: magicman on April 29, 2016, 05:00:50 PM

Everybody could be chasing Buffalo State though as I think they return more talent than anybody. How all that talent comes together on the court will be the question mark, but right now they are the frontrunners,

I like that observation Magic 1. It is true that this years BENGAL starting 5 will all be seniors next year! Talk to you again in 5 months!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 09, 2016, 05:50:59 PM
NEWSFLASH

SUNY ONEONTA Coach, Vincent Medici, is leaving the Red Dragons, to become A. D. for the Hudson falls School District! Coach Medici always had his boys ready to play, in good seasons or in bad. Always a class act after the game (his last game being at Buff State). He will be missed!

Best of luck to Coach Medici in his new role!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on August 26, 2016, 12:31:29 PM
SUNY Oneonta announced Medici's replacement. Looks like a good hire based on the Cardinals' recruiting success in recent years.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2016/08/oneonta-conover-hire
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 26, 2016, 06:24:09 PM
Oneonta's new head coach Cameron Conover was a terrific hire by the Red Dragons. Coach Conover has proven to be a great recruiter and was the top assistant to Head Coach Tom Curle for most of his tenure at Plattsburgh State. Plattsburgh has been the top school in the East Region over the past 11 years with 7 trips to the NCAA DIII tournament, more than any other school in the East Region during that time span. Cameron also enjoys the distinction of being the only undefeated coach in the SUNYAC conference guiding the Cardinals to an 88-86 victory over Buffalo State back on February 6th 2010 when Coach Curle had to miss that game so he'll take his 1-0 record with him to the Red Dragons. Not only is he an excellent coach he is also a pretty good player so the guys in Oneonta will be getting someone that I'm sure they will be quite happy to play for. Now I'll have to root for Oneonta to do well except when they visit Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh on Friday January 27th. Then Mikey McElroy and company will once again have to feel the agony of defeat. ;)

Good luck to Oneonta and Coach Conover...hope this year you can make the SUNYAC playoffs and put together a decent season.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 29, 2016, 11:28:10 AM
MagicMan
I hope you had a wonderful summer.
Great Hire by Oneonta. Cameron will make an immediate impact for the Red Dragons. I'm very excited to see what he can do with this team.
I know you must have given him a piece of your MAGIC WAND, because he is going to pull a rabbit out of a hat.
My sources tell me he is working on something big that will make the Red Dragons a playoff team again after their epic collapse last season. This is the kind of young innovative thinking we need at Oneonta.
Stay tuned for the news.
With most of the tops teams returning their top players the SUNYAC will be one of the top conferences in the country.
Can't wait for the fun to begin.
Enjoy the last week of summer and let the games begin.
Regards,
All-Time
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on September 06, 2016, 07:16:45 PM
magicman,
  In my sporadic part-time work as a contractor on an internet video project, today I came upon a clip of Plattsburgh-SUNYIT bball highlites from 2007 on PSTV. Travis Gorham and A. Williams seemed to be the players of note. They had a record of 12-6 at the time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 06, 2016, 08:52:18 PM
Quote from: ronk on September 06, 2016, 07:16:45 PM
magicman,
  In my sporadic part-time work as a contractor on an internet video project, today I came upon a clip of Plattsburgh-SUNYIT bball highlites from 2007 on PSTV. Travis Gorham and A. Williams seemed to be the players of note. They had a record of 12-6 at the time.

ronk,

They were both excellent players. They finished that year (2006-07) with a 21-9 record and were in 2nd place in the SUNYAC conference with an 11-5 record at the end of the regular season. Brockport was the regular season champs with s 14-2 record. The Cardinals won the SUNYAC conference tournament and the automatic NCAA bid by downing Brockport 80-75, in Brockport, to avenge an earlier 74-72 loss during the regular season in Plattsburgh. They beat Rochester University 61-60 in a first round NCAA game that took place at St John Fisher when Anthony Williams made a jump shot from one step over half court at the final buzzer. They lost to host  St. John Fisher the next night 95-87. Williams was an All American that year and Gorham was the teams 2nd leading scorer and top rebounder. They were both juniors. The next year 2007-2008 Plattsburgh ran the table in the SUNYAC conference going 16-0 and unbeaten also in the East Region They won 3 games to win the SUNYAC tournament as well. The received a first round bye in the NCAA tournament and then beat a very good Kings team to advance to the Sweet 16. They hosted the Sectional that year and lost to Brandeis 74-63. They finished with the best record in the history of the school at 27-3. Williams was once again an All American (2nd team D3hoops and  1st team NABC) and is the only Plattsburgh State player to be a 2 time All American. He is currently the schools all time leading scorer and only played for 3 years as he transferred in his sophomore season. Both he and Travis Gorham were chosen to the first team All Region teams. Travis, I believe, is the 2nd leading rebounder in Plattsburgh State history. Both he and Anthony have returned each year since they graduated to play in the annual alumni game. Travis is married and is the father of 3 girls and a boy I think and lives here in Plattsburgh. Anthony is working as A Dean of Students or something like that at a college in the New York City area. They are two of my all time favorite Cardinal players and I always make sure to meet up with them when the alumni game takes place. I see Travis more often because he will show up at home games but Anthony is only here usually once a year and maybe a 2nd visit if we host an NCAA pod.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on September 07, 2016, 08:03:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on September 06, 2016, 08:52:18 PM
Quote from: ronk on September 06, 2016, 07:16:45 PM
magicman,
  In my sporadic part-time work as a contractor on an internet video project, today I came upon a clip of Plattsburgh-SUNYIT bball highlites from 2007 on PSTV. Travis Gorham and A. Williams seemed to be the players of note. They had a record of 12-6 at the time.

ronk,

They were both excellent players. They finished that year (2006-07) with a 21-9 record and were in 2nd place in the SUNYAC conference with an 11-5 record at the end of the regular season. Brockport was the regular season champs with s 14-2 record. The Cardinals won the SUNYAC conference tournament and the automatic NCAA bid by downing Brockport 80-75, in Brockport, to avenge an earlier 74-72 loss during the regular season in Plattsburgh. They beat Rochester University 61-60 in a first round NCAA game that took place at St John Fisher when Anthony Williams made a jump shot from one step over half court at the final buzzer. They lost to host  St. John Fisher the next night 95-87. Williams was an All American that year and Gorham was the teams 2nd leading scorer and top rebounder. They were both juniors. The next year 2007-2008 Plattsburgh ran the table in the SUNYAC conference going 16-0 and unbeaten also in the East Region They won 3 games to win the SUNYAC tournament as well. The received a first round bye in the NCAA tournament and then beat a very good Kings team to advance to the Sweet 16. They hosted the Sectional that year and lost to Brandeis 74-63. They finished with the best record in the history of the school at 27-3. Williams was once again an All American (2nd team D3hoops and  1st team NABC) and is the only Plattsburgh State player to be a 2 time All American. He is currently the schools all time leading scorer and only played for 3 years as he transferred in his sophomore season. Both he and Travis Gorham were chosen to the first team All Region teams. Travis, I believe, is the 2nd leading rebounder in Plattsburgh State history. Both he and Anthony have returned each year since they graduated to play in the annual alumni game. Travis is married and is the father of 3 girls and a boy I think and lives here in Plattsburgh. Anthony is working as A Dean of Students or something like that at a college in the New York City area. They are two of my all time favorite Cardinal players and I always make sure to meet up with them when the alumni game takes place. I see Travis more often because he will show up at home games but Anthony is only here usually once a year and maybe a 2nd visit if we host an NCAA pod.       

  Scranton was defeated by that Brandeis team the next year in the 1st round of the NCAA on a neutral court(F&M). It was a winnable game but, having lost their best frontcourt player(Paul Hawk) in the final week of the regular season with a head injury, the team didn't play well without him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on September 13, 2016, 12:03:23 AM
We have all of the SUNYAC team schedules (men and women) posted on our site. If you click on the team pages, they'll still default to 2015-16 for a couple more weeks. But you can look at any team's schedule by using the following format.

http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Plattsburgh_State/Men/2016-17/index
http://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Plattsburgh_State/Women/2016-17/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 23, 2016, 05:35:16 AM
A little SUNYAC coaching news to report.

Former 2 time SUNYAC All Conference performer Chris Manning of Plattsburgh State is coming back to his alma mater as Coach Tom Curle's top assistant to take the job that was vacated when former Cardinal Assistant Coach Cameron Conover left to take the Oneonta State head coaching job.

Manning was the NCAA leader his junior year when he led the nation in steals per game. He was the ultimate pass first, shoot when necessary, point guard and consistently filled up the stat sheet in every game he played. He could beat you a number of ways but none were so dramatic as his ability to relieve an opposing player of the basketball. His senior season he led the NCAA in total steals for the season. During his career at Plattsburgh State, he averaged 5.8 points per game, 5.5 assists per game, 4.1 rebounds per game and 3.5 steals per game. Although he only played at Plattsburgh State for two years his 206 total steals is 4th on the all time college list.

He was a student assistant coach at Plattsburgh 2 years ago and last year he was the top assistant coach at St Lawrence University who came within 1 game of winning the Liberty League last season.

Chris will be counted on heavily by Coach Curle to be in the forefront of the recruiting program and his experience as one of the premier point guards in the SUNYAC will play a large part in the development of the Cardinal ball handlers, now and in the future.

Coach Curle had this to say about his new assistant: "I thought that once Cam left, Chris was a natural fit for this position. He knows what our program stands for, and he knows our recruiting base well and how to identify with them. As a player here, he was outstanding. Chris was a great team leader and captain. Chris worked on staff here as a student assistant for a season, and he provided insight well beyond his years. At St. Lawrence, he gained outside experience and perspective that helped him tremendously as a basketball coach. The bottom line is that I'm excited to have him here as a part of the program, and I'm proud to bring home a former player to Cardinal Basketball."

I know Chris was my number one choice and I'm glad to see him back in Plattsburgh. 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 23, 2016, 09:15:38 AM
I got a chance to meet with the new head coach of Men's Basketball at Potsdam State, Jim Bechtel, this summer when I returned to Potsdam for Alumni Weekend and my annual bash with my fraternity brothers. It was the 50th anniversary of my induction into my fraternity and we had over 20 guys show up to enjoy the weekend.

Coach Bechtel seems like a good hire for the Bears and knows that he has his work cut out for him. Recruiting will be the primary focus to get the talent level back up so Potsdam will be competitive with the rest of the conference. He did well at Canton, especially last year, but the YAC is a step up from the teams that the Kangaroos played for a large part of their schedule. It will be hard to go from 1-24 to a winning record in a single year and I don't think the Bears can pull that off. (Unless Coach Bechtel really as a couple of horses coming in that I don't know about.) I'll be happy to see some decent improvement, hopefully a handful of wins, and some talent that the Bears can build a future on. Hoping my Alma Mater can return to the glory years of Coach Welsh is obviously too much to ask, respectability however, and an occasional run at the SUNYAC championship is what most Potsdam supporters would like to see.         

Also on campus that weekend was Potsdam legend Jerry Welsh who was honored along with former Wrestling coach Neil Johnson. What a wonderful night it was to see these two great coaches honored for their outstanding careers at Potsdam State. Both men are in their 80's now but both look years younger than their actual age. I nearly spilled a glass of coke all over Coach Welsh as he was sitting next to me as we listened to Coach Johnson speaking. You never saw an 80 year old man move so fast as Coach Welsh did as that spilled drink headed for his lap. He didn't get a single drop on him as he lept up and away from the table in a flash.
Coach Welsh lives in Durham North Carolina and still teaches at Duke University, so it was probably the last time I will get a chance to see him as he doesn't get back to Potsdam that often any more. In his speech to the gathered faithful he said he was most proud, not of the accomplishments of his players on the court, but of the outstanding men those players have turned out to be.   

Coach Welsh's appearance on campus brought back many of the players that were responsible for the great teams that were National Champions in 1981 and 1986 and also were national runners up on 3 other occasions. The Bears put together an undefeated season in 1985-86 and then continued unbeaten well into the 86-87 season winning 60 straight games which is the 2nd longest men's basketball winning streak in college basketball history.

I managed to run into 2 time All American(1980 and 1981), Derrick Rowland, the 2nd leading scorer (1847 pts) and 2nd leading rebounder (834) in the Bears program. Derrick has a business called "The Perfect Sports Group" and features "The Perfect Shooting" system which is designed to make a shooter out of you. Here is a link to his website: http://theperfectsportsgroup.com/

With him was All American Maurice Woods(1982), #9 all time pts per game-career (13..4 ppg) and #10 all time rebounds per game-career (6.6) I remember watching Derrick and Maurice play back in the early 80's and would travel back to Potsdam every year at tournament time because almost every year the Bears were hosting NCAA games the 1st and 2nd weekends of the tournament. 

2 time All American Steve Babiarz (1988 and 1989) was present and was in such great shape he played in the alumni basketball game on Saturday and could probably still start at most of the YAC schools and he's pushing 50 years old now. Steve is the All-Time leading scorer in program history with 2089 points during his 4 year career at Potsdam. He is 2nd on the career ppg list with 17.1, trailing only another Potsdam legend Mike Deane who averaged 18.1 ppg for his 3 year career. Deane had 1447 points in his 3 years as the Bears point guard but also averaged over 10 assists per game during that 3 year career as well. That's a number that blows away every other SUNYAC career assist leader. I think the "official SUNYAC career assist leader" has about half as many assists as Deane had in 3 years. 8-)

The recipient of many of those assists by Deane was 2 time All Conference, Ted Bence, 6'7" center on those Deane led teams and he was also on hand for the weekend. Ted is the all time leading rebounder for the Bears with 887 boards and is also tops on the list in rebounds per game with 8.8. Ted is the 10th leading scorer in Bears' history with 1307 points.

Bill Merna another great player for Potsdam was back as well. Bill was a starter on a number of teams in the late 60's and went on to become one of the premier high school coaches in New York State at Ogdensburg High School before retiring a few years ago.

Joe Topa was an All Conference performer, also in the 60's, and as a freshman hit the game tying shot against Plattsburgh in 1966 to send the game into overtime and then made the game winning free throws in the extra session to win it and send the Bears to the NCAA tournament. He came back all the way from Texas for the weekend. I hadn't seen Joe since 1969 so it was good to renew that old friendship.

Coach Welsh's longtime assistant during the glory years, Steve Kmack, was on hand as well. Steve went on to be the very successful coach of Potsdam High School for many years before retiring a few years ago.     

The Alumni game was the next day on Saturday afternoon followed by a cookout for the fans and players to socialize. It was all put together by Assistant Athletic Director Bill Mitchell and the testimonial for the coaches on Friday night followed by the Alumni Game on Saturday made for an enjoyable weekend. The fraternity golf outing on Friday and the rock band that's been together for 50 years.. "Double Axel" playing downtown on Friday and Saturday night from 10 till 2 didn't hurt either. ;D               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 23, 2016, 09:28:27 AM
Had a pretty reliable source tell me the other day that former Potsdam State coach Sherry Dobbs has been hired by St. Lawrence University to be the assistant coach for the Saints. When Chris Manning left SLU to become the new assistant at Plattsburgh State that left an opening to be filled and who better than a former head basketball coach at a D3 college who happens to live in the area. Sure hope this story is true. Coach Dobbs will bring quite a bit more to the table than the average assistant coach and should be a good hire for SLU coach Chris Downs.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 25, 2016, 12:22:11 AM
I'm looking at the SUNYAC teams' non-conference schedules to see who will have the toughest out of conference games this year. I'll give my report when the schools have filled n a few more games. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 19, 2016, 01:41:12 AM
The Sporting News has named Oswego State senior guard, Brian Sortino, as a Preseason 2nd Team All American. This is the first, of what should prove to be many awards for the Lakers' go to guy, this season.

The publication has picked Amherst as the Preseason #1 team in DIII. They have 2 other teams from Massachusetts in the Top 10 with Babson at #2 and Williams at #8.

DIIINews has listed Sortino as one of the Top 24 players in the country and has picked Oswego State as #21 in their Preseason Top 25.

Here's the DIIINews link: http://www.smallcollegehoops.com/Home_files/D3NOct16FactSheet-1.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 19, 2016, 10:04:12 AM
I don't want to take anything away from those fine gentlemen, but I have never found DIII Online to have a serious take on the division... especially their Top 10. Sporting News is better, but not much considering Williams #8? And CNU not getting a lot of love not being in the Top 2.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 19, 2016, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 19, 2016, 10:04:12 AM
I don't want to take anything away from those fine gentlemen, but I have never found DIII Online to have a serious take on the division... especially their Top 10. Sporting News is better, but not much considering Williams #8? And CNU not getting a lot of love not being in the Top 2.

In previous years I have stated the same things about both of these publications. Most of us that have been around for a few years on the D3hoops boards, know that the #1 place to follow D3 sports is here. But it's better to be picked by a 2nd rate publication than not picked at all, I suppose. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 19, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 19, 2016, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 19, 2016, 10:04:12 AM
I don't want to take anything away from those fine gentlemen, but I have never found DIII Online to have a serious take on the division... especially their Top 10. Sporting News is better, but not much considering Williams #8? And CNU not getting a lot of love not being in the Top 2.

In previous years I have stated the same things about both of these publications. Most of us that have been around for a few years on the D3hoops boards, know that the #1 place to follow D3 sports is here. But it's better to be picked by a 2nd rate publication than not picked at all, I suppose. ;D

Hmm interesting preview. I'm looking for ward to the d3Hoops preview. Like magic said, they, "D3HOOPS",  are #1!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on October 20, 2016, 11:48:27 AM
Glad to see my guys back on the boards.
Can't wait for the fun to begin ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 20, 2016, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: All-Time on October 20, 2016, 11:48:27 AM
Glad to see my guys back on the boards.
Can't wait for the fun to begin ;D

Yes sir!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 01, 2016, 01:07:57 AM
2 SUNYAC teams in pre season top 50 (52)!  Oswego 27th ( 74 votes ) and Geneseo with 1 vote! Somehow I was thinking that there would be at least 1 from the 'Yac in top 25 but it's early!  End of the season rankings are more important that preseason any day of the week!

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2016-17/preseason
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 01, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
Not to be picky, but it really isn't a Top 50. Not when the voters can only vote for 25 teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 03, 2016, 11:57:23 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 01, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
Not to be picky, but it really isn't a Top 50. Not when the voters can only vote for 25 teams.

C'mon Dave. Let the Yac have it's moments  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 04, 2016, 12:15:15 AM
Not if the moment actually doesn't exist. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 04, 2016, 03:04:28 AM
D3hoops has come out with their preseason Men's All-America Team. 3 players from the East Region have made the list.

Brian Sortino, Oswego State guard, has been named to the 2nd team.

Keegan Ryan, St John Fisher forward, has been named to the 2nd team.

Sam Borst-Smith, Rochester University guard, has been named to the 4th team.

Here's a link to the complete list of players chosen:
http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2017
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on November 04, 2016, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 01, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
Not to be picky, but it really isn't a Top 50. Not when the voters can only vote for 25 teams.

Come on Dave, your whole existence on this board is to be picky  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Anyway, hi to all my SUNYAC basketball friends !!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 05, 2016, 01:16:15 AM
Quote from: pg04 on November 04, 2016, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 01, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
Not to be picky, but it really isn't a Top 50. Not when the voters can only vote for 25 teams.

Come on Dave, your whole existence on this board is to be picky  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Anyway, hi to all my SUNYAC basketball friends !!!!

pG04, have I ever told you how much I appreciate your posts on these board??. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on November 07, 2016, 11:41:53 AM
Whats up guys, big supporter of the 'Yac! Looking forward to a great year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 07, 2016, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: The Law Firm on November 07, 2016, 11:41:53 AM
Whats up guys, big supporter of the 'Yac! Looking forward to a great year.

Welcome to the board. Hope to see more of you during the year. Did you go to a YAC school? Who's your favorite team? Let me be the first to give you a Plus K.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on November 08, 2016, 12:47:53 AM
Magicman, I am a proud alum of The Buffalo State College! Big Bengal supporter and fan of the hoops program over there, I have a feeling that "bengals rule" and I will get along just fine 😉. I had a chance to catch some games last year and meet some of the buffalo state staff, they were quality gentlemen! They are returning 5 starters this year and have a seasoned group of veterans in the rotation, I expect a special year from them! Will be interesting to see how some other teams adjust to life with new players and coaches, big ups to my man Cameron on the Oneonta job! He is a fine addition to the program and had much success at SUNY Plattsburgh. Thanks for the endorsement Magicman! Much appreciated!

Law Firm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2016, 03:13:59 AM
Quote from: The Law Firm on November 08, 2016, 12:47:53 AM
Magicman, I am a proud alum of The Buffalo State College! Big Bengal supporter and fan of the hoops program over there, I have a feeling that "bengals rule" and I will get along just fine 😉. I had a chance to catch some games last year and meet some of the buffalo state staff, they were quality gentlemen! They are returning 5 starters this year and have a seasoned group of veterans in the rotation, I expect a special year from them! Will be interesting to see how some other teams adjust to life with new players and coaches, big ups to my man Cameron on the Oneonta job! He is a fine addition to the program and had much success at SUNY Plattsburgh. Thanks for the endorsement Magicman! Much appreciated!

Law Firm

Well it looks like I will now be outnumbered by Buff State supporters. That means I will have to make twice as many posts promoting my Plattsburgh State Cardinals. ;D

You are correct on a couple of things. The Buffalo State staff is a collection of "Quality Gentlemen". Also they do have their entire starting 5 returning this year, as well as a number of other players that were part of the regular rotation last season. They may be the favorites to win it all this year. That will depend on how well they share the ball and how well they play when they have the lead. Sometimes, too many talented players can create problems.

Oneonta, one of 4 teams that didn't make the playoffs last year will certainly be in the mix this year. With Coach Conover taking over that program, their success in the SUNYAC just got measurably better.

Be careful of that Bengalsrule guy. He not only drinks the orange Kool-Aid, he has orange blood as well. Sometimes he also looks at life through orange colored glasses. If you are ever in the Plattsburgh area check with Bengalsrule and he will tell you how to locate me. We'll have lunch or something.

The conference will be one big horserace this year with 8 teams fighting for 6 spots. There are 5 teams that I could legitimately pick to win the conference title.  Good luck to your Bengals this season. I'll certainly be rooting for them to come in 2nd place in the YAC. ;)   

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 09, 2016, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: The Law Firm on November 08, 2016, 12:47:53 AM
Magicman, I am a proud alum of The Buffalo State College! Big Bengal supporter and fan of the hoops program over there, I have a feeling that "bengals rule" and I will get along just fine 😉. I had a chance to catch some games last year and meet some of the buffalo state staff, they were quality gentlemen! They are returning 5 starters this year and have a seasoned group of veterans in the rotation, I expect a special year from them! Will be interesting to see how some other teams adjust to life with new players and coaches, big ups to my man Cameron on the Oneonta job! He is a fine addition to the program and had much success at SUNY Plattsburgh. Thanks for the endorsement Magicman! Much appreciated!

Law Firm

I like this guy  "The Law Firm"!!!  Could be a special season!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 10, 2016, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 08, 2016, 03:13:59 AM
Quote from: The Law Firm on November 08, 2016, 12:47:53 AM
Magicman, I am a proud alum of The Buffalo State College! Big Bengal supporter and fan of the hoops program over there, I have a feeling that "bengals rule" and I will get along just fine 😉. I had a chance to catch some games last year and meet some of the buffalo state staff, they were quality gentlemen! They are returning 5 starters this year and have a seasoned group of veterans in the rotation, I expect a special year from them! Will be interesting to see how some other teams adjust to life with new players and coaches, big ups to my man Cameron on the Oneonta job! He is a fine addition to the program and had much success at SUNY Plattsburgh. Thanks for the endorsement Magicman! Much appreciated!

Law Firm

Well it looks like I will now be outnumbered by Buff State supporters. That means I will have to make twice as many posts promoting my Plattsburgh State Cardinals. ;D

You are correct on a couple of things. The Buffalo State staff is a collection of "Quality Gentlemen". Also they do have their entire starting 5 returning this year, as well as a number of other players that were part of the regular rotation last season. They may be the favorites to win it all this year. That will depend on how well they share the ball and how well they play when they have the lead. Sometimes, too many talented players can create problems.

Oneonta, one of 4 teams that didn't make the playoffs last year will certainly be in the mix this year. With Coach Conover taking over that program, their success in the SUNYAC just got measurably better.

Be careful of that Bengalsrule guy. He not only drinks the orange Kool-Aid, he has orange blood as well. Sometimes he also looks at life through orange colored glasses. If you are ever in the Plattsburgh area check with Bengalsrule and he will tell you how to locate me. We'll have lunch or something.

The conference will be one big horserace this year with 8 teams fighting for 6 spots. There are 5 teams that I could legitimately pick to win the conference title.  Good luck to your Bengals this season. I'll certainly be rooting for them to come in 2nd place in the YAC. ;)   



The Law firm...as far as "being "careful", I must warn you to be wary of that gentleman named "magicman".. Don't let his smile fool you (on Facebook) nor his "occasional" sense of humor. He is the die hardest of basketball fans. He lives, eats, breathes Plattsburgh basketball. LIVES...EATS and BREATHES. I'm posting this now because its a good chance that he is at their practice as we speak.   He is also the undisputed king of D3 hoops on these boards (IMHO), however don't let that intimidate you because if you do then he will try and have you drinking some C.K.A. (Cardinal Kool Aid)!

Stand by your BENGALs guns (its so good to have another BELIEVER on these boards), no matter what magicmans says! I will admit, he knows Plattsburgh/North country better than anyone I know. I've tried to get him to come west for 5/6 years but to no avail! If you are ever in Plattsburgh, magicman will be easy to find. Look for the guy sitting in the last row, directly behind the Cards bench, probably with a red hat on. However let me also suggest, if you ever get to Plattsburgh, then 1st stop in the "Music Shop", located at 77 Margaret st. Its the picture of a full service music store complete with instruments, records and sheet music for every generation. Its my favorite stop when in Plattsburgh! There's some pretty knowledgeable Cards fans there too!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 13, 2016, 04:45:02 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2016, 03:02:20 PM
The SUNYAC has a big opening night to tip off the 2016-17 season as 7 teams are in action. Here's the schedule:

Nov. 15
   
Fredonia State  at  Lycoming        6:00 PM

The Blue Devils have a ton of returning talent and will be looking to make the YAC playoffs for the first time since the 2008-09 season. They open up against the Lycoming Warriors, an NCAA tournament team that only lost to Final Four participant, Christopher Newport, by a 79-71 score,  in the opening round of last year's tournament. Unfortunately for Fredonia, the Warriors also return a ton of talent that includes their entire starting five and and 8 of their 11 man rotation from last year. The Blue Devils lost to Lycoming in Fredonia last year by a 20 point 69-49 final. Fredonia had the lead at halftime 24-23 but got outscored by a 46-25 margin in the 2nd period. Have the Blue Devils matured enough to get a lead, hold on and win this game, this year? The oddsmakers don't think so and have made Lycoming an 8 point favorite. It will be closer than last year's 20 point margin, but I think the Warriors will prevail once again at home. I see this one in favor of Lycoming by a 73-67 final. Hope I'm wrong about this one and if I'm not, maybe the Blue Devils will have better luck on December 29th when they pay a return visit to Lycoming for a 2nd matchup against the Warriors. Apparently playing them once this year was not enough!

           
St. Lawrence  at  Potsdam State        7:00 PM

The Bears have a new coach in Jim Bechtel, and they return quite a bit from last year's team. They can only improve off of last year's 1-24 record. Potsdam has a young team and improvement will come but it's not going to happen overnight. The Bears are still going to struggle to find wins this year and I don't expect them to get one tonight when they host St. Lawrence University. The Saints return their top 8 players from last year and are picked to finish in 2nd place in the Liberty League. Sitting on the bench for the Saints as an Assistant Coach will be former Bears Head Coach Sherry Dobbs. Talk about scouting your opponents...Dobbs should have a wheelbarrow full of notes on the Potsdam players to share with the Saints. The point spread favors the Saints by a 12 point margin but I think the Bears can keep it to a single digit outcome. SLU wins this one by a 77-69 final. Hope I'm wrong here as well.

       
Medaille  at  Geneseo State        7:00 PM

On November 15th 2011 the Medaille Mavericks beat Geneseo by a 76-56 margin. That was the last time they had a victory over the Knights. Since then, Geneseo has won 4 straight games in this series and none of them have been by more than 4 points. The Knights return most of last year's team but I'm told that leading scorer, Justin Ringen, is out with a foot injury. That could have a big bearing on the outcome of this game. Geneseo will be hurt, losing Ringen's 21+ ppg, but he was also the team's leading rebounder. The Knights may be vulnerable on the inside this year even with Ringen, but without him, will need someone to step up and crash the boards. John Decker will need to be even more offensive minded than normal until Ringen returns to give the Knights that 1-2 punch they had last season. The Mavericks lost 4 of their top 7 players from a year ago so a bit of rebuilding is necessary there. The oddsmakers have made the Knights an 11 point favorite but I'll be surprised if there is a double digit margin in this game. I'm taking the Knights to win by a 73-69 final score but a Maverick victory here wouldn't surprise me.

     
Nazareth  at  Oswego State        7:00 PM

The Lakers will be looking to repeat their success of a year ago when they made the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. To do so they will have to utilize a roster full of faces that weren't around during last year's memorable run. Of the 16 players on Oswego's roster 10 of them didn't play on last year's team. Coach Leone has imported 2 upperclassmen from several other institutions, a junior college transfer, 5 freshman, and 2 former Lakers that didn't play on last year's team. Their main man, Brian Sortino returns to run the show and they also have 6'10" big man, Mykelle Krecko back to help control the boards and block shots. Forward Keith Tyson another starter from last year will be counted on as well. Nazareth lost a lot of talent from last year's team and may find themselves in rebuilding mode. The Lakers are favored to win by a slim 5 point margin but I think they down the Golden Flyers by a 74-65 final.

         
Buffalo State  at  Pitt-Bradford        7:00 PM

The Bengals return all 5 starters and nearly everybody from last year's 15-11 team. They are primed to make a run for the SUNYAC crown. They need to improve their play as a team and play wisely with the lead. Tonight they face a Pitt-Bradford team that struggles to win games out of their conference going 1-7 last year in non-conference contests. Tonight should be more of the same as the Bengals should have their way with these Cats of a different color. The point spread favors Buff State by 9 but I think the final will be Bengals 90 Panthers 72.

        
Plattsburgh State     at  Clarkson        7:30 PM

The Cardinals and Knights renew their rivalry after a few years of not playing each other. This will mark the first game of 4 matchups that Plattsburgh will have against Liberty League opponents this season. Plattsburgh lost 3 starters from last year's 21-6 NCAA  tournament team including SUNYAC Player of the Year and All American Kyle Richardson, 3 point specialist Eddie Correa and human highlight reel, Xavier "XMan" Thomas. But a wealth of talent remains and Coach Tom Curle will have to figure out a way to keep a lot of players happy with playing time as competition for the rotation is stiff. Jon Patron is back and will lead the charge for the Cardinals, but will get lots of help from newcomer Eric Mack, a transfer from Nassau Community College who looks to take over where the XMan left off with his innate leaping abilities. The Knights also return much of last year's roster but they lost their best player and will be hard pressed to improve upon a 9-16 record from last season. Still, with so many returning lettermen, the possibility to move up is there.  The point spread favors the Cardinals by a 9 point margin but I think the final score will be a bit more lopsided. I think Plattsburgh wins this one by an 88-70 final.
            
New Paltz State  at  Vassar        8:00 PM

The Hawks are coming off a dismal 5-19 season. They lost their top scorer, their top rebounder and another starter from their rotation. They do have a lot of size in the 6 new freshman recruits, with a 6'9" center, two 6'7'" forwards, a 6'5" forward and a 6'4" G/F. How that translates into wins remains to be seen. Vassar lost 2 starters from last year's squad that dropped a close 70-68 game to the Hawks. This year with the game at the Brewers gym the oddsmakers have favored Vassar by a 6 point margin. I'm going out on a limb here and picking the hawks to pull off a mini upset. I like them to win this one by a 69-66 final score.      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 15, 2016, 03:15:48 PM
Love to see the MagicMan back at work.  :)
Absolutely love his posts.

Here are my picks for the night
Lycoming over Fredonia
St Lawrence over Potsdam
Medaille over Geneseo without Ringen, thanks for the injury report Magicman
Buffalo State all over Pitt Bradford
Plattsburgh over Clarkson
Oswego over Nazareth
Vassar over New Paltz

Can't wait for the games to begin.
7 teams for 6 playoff spots.
You better come to play every night in the SUNYAC.
Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2016, 06:58:36 PM
No predictions, however as I sit here at Pitt Bradford gym to cheer on my BENGALS I am reminded that their last trip here was in November of 2010!  That was the season in which Buff State won the SUNYACs and went on to the sweet 16!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2016, 11:02:49 PM

Nazareth 63, Oswego 57

Geneseo 79, Medaille 64 (Ringen plays)

Buff St. 90, Penn St.-Behrend 69

Plattsburgh 84, Clarkson 68

Lycoming 80, Fredonia 66

Vassar 71, New Paltz 65
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2016, 11:29:36 PM
Good start for my BENGALS!  Next game is this Friday vs a team that beat D 1 - University of Maine in its first game this season and scored 101 in their next game last Friday, and now stand at 3-1!

GO BENGALS !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 15, 2016, 11:54:38 PM
Potsdam gives host St. Lawrence all it could handle in Bears' 88-84 fall. Trail 39-33 at half and 11 back before closing within 66-64 at 9:01 on J. Thomas layup/FT. Still 10 down at 6:45, just three at 1:18 and by two at :08 on D. Delsol-Lowry layup. SL clinches from the stripe a second later. Saints 34x50 FTs the difference. Bears 17x23 FT. Soph N. Onabor 27 pts (9x13fg, 5x9 3s, 5pf) for Pdamers. Fr guard Thomas 16 pts, 5 rebs; fr guard D. Delsol-Lowry 10 pts, 6 rebs, 5 assts.

Oswego shot down 63-57 by guest Nazareth whose Flyers up 32-23 thru 20 minutes. Lakers cut edge to seven at 13:43 but 13 in arrears at 10:04. B. Sortino three FTs bring OSt within handful at 2:22 and his FT at :24 within 60-57. In 40' stint he nets 23 pts(6x18fg, 2x7 3s, 9x13ft. K. Tyson with 14 pts(7x14fg, 11 rebs), M. Krecko 11 rebs. Oswego just 18x58fg and 3x20 3s to Naz 24x57fg, 6x17 3s led by T. Stenglein 22 pts(9x17fg, 5 assts, 6 rebs) in 39'. Lakers in 44-36 board advantage, 9-20 assist hole

Geneseo gets past Medaille 79-64 after trailing 29-27 at the break. Knights assume seven point lead at 15:47 and take control. J. Decker finishes with 20 pts(7x16fg) in 32', J. Cohen 18 pts on six 3s in 10 launches. Soph J. Menke with 11 rebs, Ringen 6 pts(2x11fg) in 26'.

Buff St's 90-69 romp over Pitt-Bradford paced by D. Grayer 23 pts(8x14fg, 5x10 3s), L. Smith 18 pts(9x13fg, 12 rebs), M. Henry 15 pts(6x7fg). Bengals 34x63fg and up 43-32 at half

Fredonia slips 80-66 to Lycoming. Looks at 42-33 halftime deficit. K. Brown 17 pts, D. Williams 13 pts(5x8fg) in defeat

Plattsburgh cruises 84-68 past Clarkson with J. Patron off the bench for 26 pts(9x17fg, 4x6 3s, 7 rebs) in 22' of action. Cards forge 37-25 lead midway, extend that margin till Engineers tighten things to 10 at 10' mark. Patron jumper begins Pburgh closing flourish. C. Middleton with 13 pts in 27', E. Bryant 12 pts. Cards 29x67fg. D. Hart 20 pts(8x9fg) for Clarkson

New Paltz gives Vassar a tussle in 71-65 setback after trailing 39-33 at half. Hawks move ahead 51-48 at 10:10 on B. Tolliver points. Vassar whiz A. Seff keeps his side afloat with pair of treys. K. Coyle the answer for NP and within 60-59 at 4:05. Coyle 3-pter at 0:40 makes it 67-65 but Vassar closes the deal. The jr Coyle in NP debut delivers 26 pts(8x18fg, 2x5 3s, 8x9ft, 5pf) over 32'. A. Seniuk hauls in 13 rebs in 39'. Seff nets 34 pts (13x20fg, 3x5 3s, 4 assts) in 34 Vassar minutes



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
Best of luck to a class guy, Cam Conover, tonight as he begins his college head coaching career at Oneonta ! No small potatoes on his agenda as his dragons play Ncaa tourney participant Albany Great Danes in Albany tonight!  I'll be cheering for Cam tonight!

Something tells me that if the Magicman isn't too "mellow" from celebrating his birthday today, that he too will be tuning in to Albany broadcast tonight!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on November 16, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
Magicman- WOW, you nearly predicted the exact score of that Buffalo State game! The Bengals roared in their debut and had some nice contributions across the board. Maine Fort Kent will be no walk in the park and should prove to be a heavyweight bout Friday night at the Sports Arena. I see that Oswego lost their opener, and Plattsburgh got a great game out of Jonathon Patron, who is proving to be a fine player in this league. Basketball season is upon us gentlemen, best of luck to all and a happy birthday to "Magicman"  ;D

Peace
LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 16, 2016, 11:25:35 AM
Happy Birthday MagicMan

You guys do know that the Oneonta vs Albany game doesn't count on Oneonta's record.
It's an Exhibition game, so Cam's official first game is against SUNY Cobleskill which will be his first win.
Go Red Dragons
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2016, 03:30:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
Best of luck to a class guy, Cam Conover, tonight as he begins his college head coaching career at Oneonta ! No small potatoes on his agenda as his dragons play Ncaa tourney participant Albany Great Danes in Albany tonight!  I'll be cheering for Cam tonight!

Something tells me that if the Magicman isn't too "mellow" from celebrating his birthday today, that he too will be tuning in to Albany broadcast tonight!

The magicman is going to one up that vision that Bengalsrule forecasts of him tuning into the Albany broadcast tonight. Coach Curle and I will be leaving the Burgh at 5:15 sharp to drive to Albany and take in that Oneonta-Albany basketball game live and in person. Fresh off a road trip to Potsdam, the magicman can still do back to backers even at his advanced age of 69. :D ;D

Quote from: All-Time on November 16, 2016, 11:25:35 AM
Happy Birthday MagicMan

You guys do know that the Oneonta vs Albany game doesn't count on Oneonta's record.
It's an Exhibition game, so Cam's official first game is against SUNY Cobleskill which will be his first win.
Go Red Dragons

And Alltime, we know it doesn't count in Cam's record but it counts in Albany State's record. So the way we look at it is...it's a win win situation. If Cam loses the game...well it was an exhibition and it doesn't count. And if the Red Dragons can somehow pull off a miracle (they do happen and living right near Lake Placid we DO believe in miracles here in the North Country) then we say to hell with the NCAA... if it was good enough to count for Albany then it's good enough to count for us and Cam will improve his undefeated record to 2-0.

Cameron is currently the only undefeated coach in the SUNYAC conference with his 1-0 record. A victory he earned at Plattsburgh a few years ago when Coach Curle was absent for a game. Bengalsrule remembers it well as the Cardinals beat the Bengals on a last second buzzer beating putback as time expired.

So, the game against Cobleskill, should the Red Dragons prove victorious, will be Cameron's first win as a head coach but not his first win as a coach.

 
Thanks for the birthday wishes, guys. 8-)
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2016, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: The Law Firm on November 16, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
Magicman- WOW, you nearly predicted the exact score of that Buffalo State game! The Bengals roared in their debut and had some nice contributions across the board. Maine Fort Kent will be no walk in the park and should prove to be a heavyweight bout Friday night at the Sports Arena. I see that Oswego lost their opener, and Plattsburgh got a great game out of Jonathon Patron, who is proving to be a fine player in this league. Basketball season is upon us gentlemen, best of luck to all and a happy birthday to "Magicman"  ;D

Peace
LF

Yeah, I missed that Buffalo State final score by a measly made 3 pointer by Pitt-Bradford.

Noticeable absence in the Buff State game...no sign of Nico McLean. And no response about it from that tight lipped Bengalsrule guy. I'm waiting to hear if it is just a minor problem. I certainly hope so.

I didn't do too badly with the Plattsburgh State score either I had it 88-70 and it was 84-68. We substituted freely with 5 minutes to go and freely got outscored 17-7 down the stretch to cost me that final score on the Plattsburgh end.

Went 5-2 on my picks with Oswego and New Paltz losing. I suspected Vassar might beat New Paltz but Oswego losing to Nazareth is deja vu of their early season problems of a year ago when they got off to a horrible start, especially in conference play.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
I imagine the Great Danes will inflict considerable damage on Oneonta tonight. 5 days ago Albany beat Penn State by an 87-81 final score. It marked the first time in history that Albany beat a Big 10 team. I have no illusions about tonight. I see them probably breaking the century mark but I'm hoping the Red Dragons can put at least 50 points on the scoreboard. So that's my final guess 102-53. But I sure hope I'm wrong.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on November 16, 2016, 05:20:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 16, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
I imagine the Great Danes will inflict considerable damage on Oneonta tonight. 5 days ago Albany beat Penn State by an 87-81 final score. It marked the first time in history that Albany beat a Big 10 team. I have no illusions about tonight. I see them probably breaking the century mark but I'm hoping the Red Dragons can put at least 50 points on the scoreboard. So that's my final guess 102-53. But I sure hope I'm wrong.

From reading the boards, I see it is your birthday.  Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2016, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 16, 2016, 03:30:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
Best of luck to a class guy, Cam Conover, tonight as he begins his college head coaching career at Oneonta ! No small potatoes on his agenda as his dragons play Ncaa tourney participant Albany Great Danes in Albany tonight!  I'll be cheering for Cam tonight!

Something tells me that if the Magicman isn't too "mellow" from celebrating his birthday today, that he too will be tuning in to Albany broadcast tonight!

The magicman is going to one up that vision that Bengalsrule forecasts of him tuning into the Albany broadcast tonight. Coach Curle and I will be leaving the Burgh at 5:15 sharp to drive to Albany and take in that Oneonta-Albany basketball game live and in person. Fresh off a road trip to Potsdam, the magicman can still do back to backers even at his advanced age of 69. :D ;D

Quote from: All-Time on November 16, 2016, 11:25:35 AM
Happy Birthday MagicMan

You guys do know that the Oneonta vs Albany game doesn't count on Oneonta's record.
It's an Exhibition game, so Cam's official first game is against SUNY Cobleskill which will be his first win.
Go Red Dragons

And Alltime, we know it doesn't count in Cam's record but it counts in Albany State's record. So the way we look at it is...it's a win win situation. If Cam loses the game...well it was an exhibition and it doesn't count. And if the Red Dragons can somehow pull off a miracle (they do happen and living right near Lake Placid we DO believe in miracles here in the North Country) then we say to hell with the NCAA... if it was good enough to count for Albany then it's good enough to count for us and Cam will improve his undefeated record to 2-0.

Cameron is currently the only undefeated coach in the SUNYAC conference with his 1-0 record. A victory he earned at Plattsburgh a few years ago when Coach Curle was absent for a game. Bengalsrule remembers it well as the Cardinals beat the Bengals on a last second buzzer beating putback as time expired.

That's why I said
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
Cam Conover, tonight as he begins his college head coaching career at Oneonta

Operative word is HEAD coach. And yes I remember that game well!

So, the game against Cobleskill, should the Red Dragons prove victorious, will be Cameron's first win as a head coach but not his first win as a coach.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 16, 2016, 11:43:05 PM
Oneonta with a workout in 97-56 exhibition slip at UAlbany whose Great Danes break out to 53-26 halftime lead. Seven Albanys strike double figure scoring cords. M. McElroy's 16 pts(5x13fg, 2x6 3) expectedly top RDragons. McElroy, L. Coleman and F. Kelly return as key performers

Those other RDragons from Cortland once again due to figure in conference chase despite tourney titlists losing flock of talent. Still return host of vets including trio coming off past season DL list: 6-9 Z. Lydon whose younger bro Tyler wears Orange quite well, 6-4 J. Cooper who was HS Lydon teammate, and 6-7 J. Prendergast who saw extensive duty two years ago.  The 6-6 C. Joseph was last season's SUNYAC tourney mvp. Other familiar faces figuring include backcourters M. Kelly, J. Morales who nailed last season's winning shot in the conference tourney final,  A. McGuire, Z. Cotton, J. Lobello, along with frontcourt personnel D. Hampton and J. Rivera. Twelve of the 18 man roster previously wore Cortland livery.
      Will feature starters Kelly-- the lone senior, Morales, Cooper outside, Joseph and Hampton underneath. Lydon and Prendergast should be early entries.
     Tom Spanbauer in 22nd year heading the Corts. An aide is JP Reagan, perhaps last season's mvp. Begin play Friday vs. 1-0 Purchase at Ithaca. Host 0-1 Bombers meet 0-1 St. Joe's of LI. On Saturday at Cortland it's IC/Purchase and Cortland/St. Joe's. Ithacans debuts Tuesday in OT loss to Rochester, Purchase licks Flushing's Vaughn College, Joe's bows to Medgar Evers.
      Former CSt leading scorer B. Estarfaa assisting at Alfred
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2016, 08:04:35 AM
A busy two days for the magicman with the trips to Potsdam on Tuesday night and Albany last night.

November 15th Plattsburgh State 84 Clarkson 68

The Cardinals opened their 2016-17 campaign in fine fashion as they used a balanced attack to put away the Golden Knights. Clarkson was able to hang with Plattsburgh for the first 10 minutes of the contest but the insertion into the game of the highest returning scorer for the Cardinals, Jon Patron, soon enabled the visiting team to open up a double digit lead lead. Patron, the reigning SUNYAC Rookie of the Year, entered the game after 5 minutes had gone by and took up right where he left off last year, before he suffered a knee injury that ended his season during the semifinals of the SUNYAC Tournament. In 11 minutes of court time in the first half he had 15 points and grabbed 6 rebounds. His 3 pointer with 5:48 to play in the half gave the Cardinals their first double digit lead at 31-21 and Patron went to the bench. The Redbirds increased their advantage to 14 points and settled for a 37-25 halftime edge.. Chris Middleton had 8 points to help power the Cardinals at the break.

Plattsburgh, once they attained that double figure lead, maintained that advantage throughout the contest and increased it to 26 points at 77-51 with 4:49 left in the game. Coach Curle got everyone in to the game at that point and the Knights managed to cut the final margin down to 16 points.

Jon Patron only played 22 minutes but was the game's high scorer with 26 points (9x17 fg, 4x6 3's, 4x6 ft). He added 7 rebounds and 2 assists. Sophomore Chris Middleton, in his first start in a Cardinal uniform had 13 points(4x8 fg, 1x1 3's, 4x4 ft), with 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists. Junior guard, Eli Bryant, filled up the stat sheet with 12 points (4x11 fg, 3x6 3's, 1x2 ft,) 4 assists, 4 steals, and 2 rebounds. Junior newcomer, Eric Mack, playing in his first game as a Cardinal, started and scored 9 points(3x6 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x4 ft's). Eric also grabbed 5 rebounds. The box score only showed him playing 13 minutes but that's not right. I know he played at least 17 minutes (10 in the first half and at least 7 in the 2nd) and I think he logged over 20 minutes of floor time.

Ian Howard a 6'3" sophomore came off the bench to lead the Cardinals in rebounds as he grabbed 8 boards. He also added 6 points and 2 steals. Brandon Johnson, also a sophomore and the shortest player on the team at 5'10", led them in blocked shots with 2. He also scored 4 points, with 3 rebounds and 2 steals. Sophomore Isaiah Hill also made his first start for Plattsburgh  scoring 7 points, with 2 rebounds 1 assist and a steal. Freshmen Adam Jaquish and Jeremy Eisenman both broke into the scoring column in their first game as a Cardinal.

Plattsburgh shot 43.3% from the field(29x67), 42.3% from behind the arc(11x26), and 57.7% from the line(15x26). They outrebounded the Knights 45-40 and had 15 turnovers to 23 for Clarkson.

The Knights  shot 37.1% from the field (23x62), only 17.2% from long distance(5x29) and 17x21(81%) from the line, the one area where they had an edge on Plattsburgh. Clarkson was led by Derek Hart with 20 points (8x9 fg, 4x6 ft) and 7 rebounds. Conrad Zampier had 12 points and Drew Zlogar just missed his double- double with 9 points and 10 rebounds.

Plattsburgh is back in action Friday night as they host the first game of the Cardinal Classic at 7:00 PM when  they meet the Elms College Blazers from Chicopee, Massachusetts. The Blazers compete in the New England Collegiate Conference and they own a 2-0 lifetime record against the Cardinals. They beat Plattsburgh in 2009 in Elms and again in 2011 at Plattsburgh. Hopefully a little revenge will be in order for tonight's game.

The Cardinals will be off on Saturday as Elms will meet RPI at 3:00 PM at Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall court.
Then on Sunday Plattsburgh will host RPI in the final game if the 3 team classic at 5:30 PM.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2016, 11:50:47 AM
Traveled to Albany on Wednesday night with Coach Curle to take in the debut of Oneonta's Coach Cameron Conover. We knew going down it was going to be a tough outing for the Red Dragons but Coach Curle wanted to be courtside for his former assistant's first game as a head coach.

The Great Danes won the game by a final score of 97-56 but the scholar athletes from Division III hung with the scholarship athletes from Division I for quite a while in the first half and had their moments in the big house.

Glad to see Mikey McElroy block the Great Danes first shot of the game and then a minute later Mikey buried his first shot, a 3 pointer to give the Red Dragons the lead at 3-2. Oneonta hung with the bigger bodies for a good portion of the first half and the lead was still in single digits until Albany scored from the line with 8 minutes left in the period to gain their first double digit lead. The Great Danes slowly and steadily increased their margin until the final score. Albany had a height advantage and they used it repeatedly to score inside as their bigs were also wider and quicker. Of their 97 points scored 62 of them came in the paint, 16 came on free throws and that left only 19 points scored on actual baskets from outside the foul lane. The Great Danes had 5 three pointers and so did Oneonta. The Red Dragons however hoisted up 27 shots from downtown while Albany only attempted 12 shots from long distance. For Oneonta throwing up a bunch of threes was probably their best chance of trying to score in their halfcourt offense, because trying to work the ball inside against the bigger Danes was a struggle. At least they got the shots off from long range but they were heavily contested by the quickness of the Albany players.

I said if the Red Dragons could keep Albany under a hundred points and manage to score 50 points on offense then it was a good outcome. Both of those goals were accomplished. Coach Conover made sure that all of his players got some court time so they could experience playing in the DI atmosphere.

Glad to see Frankie Kelly, who scored 7 points back in uniform for the Red Dragons. I got to see the newcomers in action also as freshman Harrison Deegan went 4-7 with a 3 pointer, to score 9 points in his Oneonta debut.

McElroy led the Red Dragons with 16 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 blocks. Lawrence Coleman added 8 points, 4 boards and a block. Sophmore Myles Joyce led the team with 5 rebounds and freshman Ian Schultz had 4 boards. Another freshman Carson Jacobs scored 5 points in his Red Dragon debut.

Tried to meet with Mikey McElroy and Frankie Kelly after the game but they exited the opposite side of the court from where we were. By the time I got over to the entrance to the locker rooms they were already inside. I did give the freshman Deegan a message to deliver but don't know if it was. We did get to see Coach Conover for a few minutes prior to him addressing his players after the game. I'll have to wait till Friday January 27th to give Mikey my prediction of the game against Plattsburgh.;D

Oneonta opens their regular season tonight against SUNY-Cobleskill at 6:00 PM

GO Red Dragons... win one and give the Coach a victory in his real debut as a head coach. Make it a memorable one. 8-) 

         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 18, 2016, 01:23:30 PM
The Red Dragons will certainly give Head Coach Conover a very memorable 1st win tonight against SUNY Cobleskill
The Red Dragons by 25
Great to see Coach Curle and the Magicman drove to Albany to give Cameron support, that is the Plattsburgh way.
Getting Coach Conover from a fantastic basketball program and a fantastic Coach in Coach Curle can only be a win win situation for the Red Dragons.
I wish the Cardinals and Red Dragons much success this coming season.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2016, 02:46:55 PM
Nov. 18

Every team in action tonight except Geneseo. Busy day for me so I'll have to make some quick picks without much info.


Oneonta State vs  SUNY-Cobleskill        6:00 PM   Holiday Inn Classic at Hartwick College   

The Red Dragons will find the going a little easier here than they did on Wed night.  Oneonta 78 Cobleskill 60
   
Hampden-Sydney  vs Brockport State        6:00 PM   
Stephanie Tubbs Jones Basketball Tournament @ Cleveland, OH (Case Western Reserve Univ.)

Brockport opens their season as usual on the road. The first of 4 straight non-conference away games. They  take on a tough team from a tough conference, the Old Dominion Athletic Conference. I'm taking the Golden Eagles in a close one 75-71.
     
SUNY-Purchase  vs  Cortland State        6:00 PM   Cortaca Challenge @ Ithaca, N.Y.

These Red Dragons open their season close to home but on a neutral court. I think the defending SUNYAC Champs are in pretty good shape once again. Cortland wins this one by an 80-68 final.
   
Mount Union vs  Fredonia State        6:00 PM     @ Hilbert College

Fredonia will be up against it as Mount Union, from the strong Ohio Athletic Conference should prove to be the winner here. The Purple Raiders take down the Blue Devils by a 75-66 final. Hope I'm wrong about this one.
   
Gordon  vs Potsdam State        6:00 PM   North Country Invitational at Clarkson College

Basically a home game for the Bears against a team who whipped Elms College the other night. Elms College is playing Plattsburgh State tonight. Bears are underdogs once again as Gordon returns a lot from last years team. Hope the Bears can win this one but I see them losing another close one 81-75.

New Paltz State at  Allegheny        7:00 PM  Greg Richards Memorial Classic

The Hawks might win one here but until they do I can't pick them. This should be a close game though but I see the Gators beating the Hawks 70-65

Elms  at  Plattsburgh State        7:00 PM  Cardinal Classic

The Blazers are 2-0 against the Cardinals but I think they were better then, than they are now. Cardinals should prevail here by double digits. Plattsburgh 89 Elms 66.
   
SUNY-Maritime  at  Oswego State        7:30 PM

The Lakers got surprised on Tuesday night. I don't think they get surprised tonight but Maritime did defeat Lehman on Tuesday, a team that was 18-8 a year ago, so anything can happen. I'll take Sortino and his boys by a 78-67 final.
   
Me.-Fort Kent at Buffalo State        8:00 PM  Buffalo State Coles Classic

I'm picking the Bengals to win and I can guarantee it. Why?...because both teams are called the Bengals. The Maine Bengals own an 80-75 victory over the Division I Maine Black Bears. Now that's scary. Then they beat Delhi 101-74. Yet I see a loss to Berkley College of New York by a 90-75 score. I think the Bengals from New York can take down the ones from Maine. The final score should be Buffalo State 91 Maine-Fort Kent 82. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2016, 07:53:50 PM
Cortland with work to do. Bow 94-85 to a good looking Purchase outfit in opening portion of Cortaca tourney at Ithaca. RDragons lead by one at half. Fall behind with about 15 minutes left and chase thereafter. Shoot just 34 percent from the field to Purchase 54 percent. J. Morales with 34 pts in defeat. Five foes hit double figures. Ithaca opposes LI St. Joe's in nightcap. Scene switches to Cortland tomorrow afternoon when CSt meets St. Joe's

Fredonia loses to Mount Union 72-64

Potsdam outscored 87-72 by Gordon

Brockport stops Hampden-Sydney 84-71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2016, 11:11:08 PM
BENGALS win, just as Magicman predicted! My BENGALS , of course,  84-67!  In a game that was truly entertaining and undoubtedly attracted the largest crowd of any SUNYAC contest to date! As was noted earlier, UMFK has a D1 victory to their credit and for most of the first half iof game many could see why!  A roster that had more players from California and overseas than the state of Maine!  Thier lack of depth ( only 10 players) was thier downfall tonight though!

5 BENGALS ( The good ones from Buff State), in double figures with 3 double/doubles amongst them ( Mike Henry, Lovell Smith and Jordan Chateau)!  Tomorrow is championship vs Villa Maria!

PS to Magicman!   Nico McLean played tonight ( 10 points)!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2016, 11:29:54 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2016, 11:11:08 PM
PS to Magicman!   Nico McLean played tonight ( 10 points)!  ;)

I was wondering when you were going to get around to answering my question. This is how you treat a guy who has always...and I mean always, dropped whatever he was doing and answered YOUR questions in the blink of an eye.

Glad to see he's back. You had me worried and it's not nice to make the magicman worry.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 12:15:53 AM
Oneonta State 94 Cobleskill 73

Congratulations to Coach Conover on winning his first game as a Division III coach.

The Red Dragons got a big effort from Mikey McElroy with a double-double that saw him lead all scorers with 24 points and grab rebounding honors as well with 11 boards. He also had 4 assists.

Lawrence Coleman had 19 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Jack Kolosky had 14 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

Frankie Kelly had 6 points, 7 reboinds, 6 assists, and 2 steals.

Oneonta was up by 15 points midway through the first half and coasted home from there. The lead was as much as 27 with 14:22 left in the game. Coach Conover got his entire roster into the game as the Red Dragons open their season with a win.

I had Oneonta winning this game by an 18 point margin but my 78-60 score was a bit off from the final score.   

Oneonta will face the Keene State Owls on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM. The competition will be a bit tougher as the Owls defeated host Hartwick Friday night 79-63. The Owls won the Little East Conference last year and advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament falling to Final Four participant Christopher Newport, 74-62. D3hoops has ranked Keene State at #19 in their preseason Top 25 poll. The Owls are 2-0 on the young season. 

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 03:37:25 AM
Plattsburgh State 126  Elms College 101


All they needed in this game was a starter's pistol, because once it was fired, the track meet was in full swing. I saw sprints, high jumps, long jumps, and hurdles, and when it was over the Cardinals had set a school record for points scored in a single game. The 126 points topped the previous record of 115 points that had been done 4 times in school history with the most recent one occurring on November 29th 1994 at Lyndon State College in Vermont. The score that day was 115-67.

Plattsburgh opened up with a 7-0 lead forcing a 30 second timeout by the Elms coach. The Blazers hit back to back 3 pointers to close the gap to 9-6 but the Cardinals went on a run that had them in front by double figures at 22-12 with 14:18 left in the half. A 3 pointer by Plattsburgh's Eli Bryant created the largest lead of the 1st period at 25-12 and it looked like the Cards were going to run away with the game. The Blazers didn't wilt though, and over the next 7 minutes continued to cut into the lead, until a layup by DeAngelo Cousar, gave Elms the lead at 37-36, with 7:14 to play in the half. The teams would exchange baskets over the next 4 minutes and were still tied at 44 with 3:32 left on the clock. The Cardinals then got consecutive long bombs from Brandon Johnson and Eli Bryant that propelled them to a 53-48 halftime lead.

With 11 turnovers in the first half and only hitting 8 free throws in 20 attempts, the Cardinals had plenty of room for improvement. The Blazers narrowed the gap during the first 3 minutes of the 2nd half and the score was 55-54 with 17:13 left in the period. The Cardinals, with points from 6 different players went on a 16-2 run over the next 3:37, capped by a 3 pointer from Eric Mack, and opened up a 71-56 advantage. Symon Smith, one of the best pure shooters I've seen in DIII the past few years, tried to keep his team in the game but Plattsburgh was on a roll. Brandon Johnson had a steal and a dunk and Mack followed with another 3 pointer and the lead grew to 21. An Elms timeout seemed to slow down the horses as the lead was trimmed to 14, but 5 straight points by Johnson, plus an old fashioned 3 point play from Eli Bryant, and the lead was back to 22 at 94-72 with 7:34 still left in the game. The century mark was a certainty at that point, the question was how high would the score go? Coach Curle made plenty of substitutions at that point but the lead would grow until it reached a 32 point margin at 118-86. The subs kept draining 3 pointers and 13 players hit the scoring column.

Eli Bryant led the Cardinals in scoring with a career high 27 points(10x19 fg,3x9 3's, 4x5 ft). he added 2 rebounds an assist an a steal.

Jon Patron only had 19 minutes of court time but once again scored 20 points. (He opened the season with 26 points on Tuesday night). He also had the first of what promises to be a number of double-doubles with 10 rebounds.

Eric Mack also had a double-double with 18 points(6x9 fg, 4x4 3's, 2x6 ft) and a game high 12 rebounds. He added 4 assists, 3 blocks, and a steal. He was perfect from long distance knocking down all 4 of his attempts.  EMack should just wear a big S on his chest because he can leap tall buildings in a single bound. I kept looking at the floor to see if his shoes were there, because I know he's gonna jump right out them one of these days. His 3 highlight reel blocks got the crowd rockin.

Brandon Johnson scored a career high 21 points(7x13 fg, 3x5 3's, 4x5 ft). He added 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and 1 electrifying dunk. Anytime a 5'10' guard has a dunk it's electrifying.8-)

Chris Middleton was the 5th Cardinal in double figures and almost the 3rd one with a double-double. He had 11 points(5x11 fg, 1x3 3's, 0x2 ft) and 9 boards. He also had 5 assists.   

Isaiah Hill had 8 points(3x6 fg, 1x2 3's 1x2 ft), 6 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.

Zack Coleman had 5 assists, 4 points, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.

Plattsburgh shot 50% from the field (46x92), 45.5% from 3 point land (15x33) and a pathetic 52.8% (19x36) from the stripe. They killed Elms on the boards 66-36 and took much better care of the ball the 2nd half (only 5 TO's) finishing with 16 turnovers to 15 for the Blazers.Points in the paint was a telling figure as the Cardinals had 52 and the Blazers only managed 24.

Elms had 4 players in double figures led by silky shooting Symon Smith. The 5'9" guard had 30 points and I wasn't sure if he missed a shot the entire game. Turns out he did as he was 10x13 from the field but was a perfect 6x6 from downtown. He was also a perfect 4x4 from the line. I don't think any of his shots hit one speck of iron...truly nothing but net. 8-) He also led his team in rebounding with 7 boards(Did I mention he was only 5'9"). He also had 5 steals 3 assists and 2 blocks.

Conny Ihearahu tossed in 19 points(7x14 fg, 0x4 3's, 5x6 ft) and grabbed 5 boards.
   
DeAngelo Cousar and Spencer Douglas both had 12 points for the Blazers.

The team shot 45.6% from the field 36-79, 40% from behind the arc (14x35) and 62.5% from the line (15x24). Normally those numbers are good enough to get you a W, but it wasn't in the Cards Friday night.:D

Plattsburgh will be back in action on Sunday afternoon November 20th at 5:30 to wrap up this year edition of the Cardinal Classic. They will host the Engineers of RPI from Troy NY. This will be the 2nd Liberty League team the Cardinals have played this week.

Elms and RPI will meet later today at 3:00 PM in game 2 of the Cardinal Classic. Elms will be at a disadvantage having had to play on Friday while RPI had the night off.   
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 04:33:17 AM
New Paltz falls to Allegheny College by a score of 72-60.

Nick Paquette with a career high 23 points but the Hawks couldn't get the win. They were in this game until the 7:38 mark of the 2nd period and were only down 50-48 but the Gators pulled away with a 12-3 burst that turned into a double digit lead with 3:30 left to play. The Hawks couldn't recover and dropped to 0-2. Dylan Balducci was the only other New Paltz player in double figures.

The Hawks take on D'Youville on Saturday at 1:00 PM.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 04:54:11 AM
Oswego State breaks into the win column as they defeat SUNY-Maritime 104-69.

The Lakers were up by double figures early on and coasted to a 60-38 halftime lead. The 2nd period was more of the same as they were able to empty the bench. 13 players got double digit minutes. 

Bryan Sortino leads the way with 19 points and 5 assists. Ian Shupp has 14 points and 4 assists, while freshman Tim Marshall has a big night with 11 points and a team leading 8 rebounds.

Keith Tyson has 8 points 6 boards and a pair of dimes. Mykelle Krecko has 6 rebounds, 5 points, 3blocks and 1 assist. Pat Caruso has 8 points, 6 rebounds and 2 assists. Freshman Brandon Gartland has 8 points, 2 boards an assist and a steal.

The Lakers will take on  the SUNY Canton Kangaroos later on Saturday I'm guessing at 4:00 PM.  Canton defeated Elmira 85-77
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 05:17:33 AM
Went 8-1 with my 9 picks on Friday, losing only the Cortland game. I'm still shaking my head over that one.
Thought that was one of my safest picks.

Hit all the other games and now stand at 13-3 after 2 days. Close on the New Paltz-Allegheny game, the Potsdam-Gordon game, and my best pick was the Fredonia score. I had it 75-66 in favor of Mt. Union and the final was a 72-64 Purple Raider victory. Not real happy when I'm right and we lose though. :P I want the YAC to win every game but I have to pick them with an open mind. My heart wiggles out on my sleeve enough as it is.

Came close with my margin of victory in the Plattsburgh-Elms game of 23 points. The Cards won by 25. I had Brockport winning a close 75-71 game. They won 84-71. I was right on Hampden-Sydney's score. ;D

Oneonta won by 21 I had them winning by 18.

Happy that I didn't let that win by Maine Fort Kent over Division I Maine University sway my thinking in the Buff State game. I had the Bengals winning by 9 points and they won by 17. If I had known Nico McLean was gonna play for the Bengals ( which a certain Bengals backer clammed up on me) I would have picked the Bengals to win by...you guessed it 17 points. ::)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 06:57:41 AM
Nov. 19

Another 9 games on tap today with only Plattsburgh State taking the day off. My Cardinals will be back at it tomorrow along with Geneseo who is just staring their tournament today.    

Fredonia State  vs Cazenovia   1:00 PM at Hilbert College   @ Hamburg, N.Y.

Fredonia with a chance to break into the win column here. The Wildcats lost to Hilbert on Friday so this is the consolation game of Hilbert's Tip Off Tournament.  I'll take the Blue Devils to win 74-70.
   
Villa Maria  at  Buffalo State  6:00 PM  Championship Game of the Coles Classic Tournament

I hate it when A YAC team plays a non D3 team and for the 2nd day in a row the Bengals play a non-D3 team. I think they do it just to P*ss me off. I should pick Villa Maria to P*ss off a certain Bengal Fan and his initials are not LF. But I can't pick Villa Maria cause I love me some Bengals. Beating a York team yesterday by a 101-76 score doesn't impress me. York got beat by D3 New Jersey City on Tuesday by almost 40 points. I'll take the Bengals to win this one in another track meet 102-85.

   
SUNY Canton  at  Oswego State    4:00 PM Championship Game of the Max Ziel Tournament

Lakers looking to win their own tournament. I think they do. Lakers 86 Canton 73

Potsdam State  vs St. Joseph's (Bklyn)  1:00 PM  North Country Invit'l Consolation game at Clarkson

The Bears may have a chance to break into the win column against the Bears of St. Joseph. Neither team has won a game this year so someone gets off the schneid. I'm picking the Potsdam variety to break out the champagne. Potsdam 75  St Joe's 68.

   
New Paltz State  vs  D'Youville        1:00 PM    at Allegheny College Tip Off Tournament
   
The Hawks with a chance to grab a win here. I hate to pick against them when they have a chance for a W. New Paltz 68 D'Youville 64
   
Oneonta State  vs  Keene State        2:00 PM   Holiday Inn Classic at Hartwick Championship Game

Oneonta will face the Keene State Owls on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM. The competition will be a bit tougher as the Owls defeated host Hartwick Friday night 79-63. The Owls won the Little East Conference last year and advanced to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament falling to Final Four participant Christopher Newport, 74-62. D3hoops has ranked Keene State at #19 in their preseason Top 25 poll. The Owls are 2-0 on the young season. I'd like to take the Red Dragons here despite the fact that the Owls are ranked but I'm scared to do so. Keene returns a lot of talent and has Dizel Wright back this year. He was injured in the 7th game of the season last year and didn't play in the NCAA tournament. He was one of their best players. With him in the lineup I think the Owls will be too much to handle. I'll take Keene State to win by an 83-76 final score. Really hope I'm wrong on this one.   
   
Geneseo State  vs The College of NJ        3:00 PM    at Penn State-Harrisburg Tip-Off Tournament   

Tough call on this game. Going with the Knights because Justin Ringen is playing and he shook off the rust on Tuesday. Geneseo 77  TCNJ Lions 72

St. Joseph's (L.I.)  vs  Cortland State        4:00 PM    Cortaca Classic at Ithaca

The Red Dragons can't lose two in a row...can they? Cortland wins this one 88-73
   
Brockport State at Case Western Reserve 4:00 PM Stephanie T Jones Tournament Championship Game

Brockport looking to win the title here and will press the Spartans from one end to the other. Clifton Lyerly and Hamed Shamseldin will combine for another 50 or so points and that should propel the Golden Eagles to the win. Brockport 90  Case 75 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2016, 09:26:14 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 18, 2016, 11:29:54 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2016, 11:11:08 PM
PS to Magicman!   Nico McLean played tonight ( 10 points)!  ;)

I was wondering when you were going to get around to answering my question. This is how you treat a guy who has always...and I mean always, dropped whatever he was doing and answered YOUR questions in the blink of an eye.

Glad to see he's back. You had me worried and it's not nice to make the magicman worry.     

Every now and then it's good to have the Magicman worry.  Not often mind you ( because coach Mark Gross said you took really good care of him last trip).  But once in a great while, keeping the magic 1 on his toes is healthy! May still have another surprise for you too!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 05:26:55 PM
Oneonta State falls to Keene State by a 104-90 final score.

The Red Dragons had the lead at the half 56-53 but the Owls outscored them 51-36 in the 2nd period. It was a 5 point game, 92-87 with e:38 left to play but Keene State outscored the Red Dragons 12-3 down the stretch.

Lawrence Coleman led Oneonta with 26 points and 8 rebounds. Mikey McElroy had 18 points and Jack Kolosky had 17 points. Frankie Kelly had 14 points and 9 assists.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2016, 06:01:12 PM

Cortland nabs first win with 93-84 homecourt topping of LI St. Joe's. Leads by 12 at intermission behind late half J. Cooper pick-'em-up and extends to 19 about five minutes beyond halftime. Coopers notches 30 pts(8x13fg, 2x4 3s, 12x12ft, 11 reb, 5 assts). M. Kelly 17 pts, C. Joseph 16, J. Morales 14. F. Vasquez with 35 pts for 0-3 St. Joe's which was outmatched Friday by host Ithaca 111-73 in Cortaca tourney contest. Joe's shoot over 50 percent from the field, Corts 46 after slow start. RDragons 25x29ft

Ithaca today nips Purchase 95-93 after giving up 14 pt. lead with 6:35 to go. Purchase ties at 93 on a trey at 0:29. IC works for last shot and gets bucket in close at 0:03 from M. Chasin who finishes 39 pt display on 13x28fg, 6x12 3s in 34'. Chasin eclipses 1,000 career points.
IC 2-1 as is Purchase, which is no slouch, particularly left backcourter B. Berrios. He was a thorn in Cortland bonnet and today notches 28 pts

Cortland next plays Nov. 29 vs. Ithaca
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 06:05:12 PM
Brockport 90   Case Western Reserve 78

The Golden Eagles defeat the host team to win the Championship game of the Stephanie Tubbs Jones Tournament.

Clifton Lyerly led Port with 24 points. Hamed Shamseldin had 14 points and Marcus Blythers had 13 points. Lyerly and Blythers tied for the team lead in rebounds as they each had 7 boards. Devon Gavin had 9 points and 4 assists.

Brockport improves to 2-0 and will be back in action on Tuesday November 22nd when they continue their road trips and travel to Patchogue, NY to face St Joseph's Long Island. It will be the Battle of Golden Eagles and I like Brockport to stay unbeaten.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 06:32:33 PM
Fredonia State 80 Cazenovia 69

The Blue Devils built a 27 point lead and then had to hang on as the Wildcats fought back and closed to within 7 points before Fredonia hit 4 key free throws and a 3 point play by Brandon Hodge to pull away and win by 11 points.

Richard De La Cruz led the way for the Blue Devils with 17 points, 7 rebounds, 3 blocks and 2 assists. Ian Helps led the way with 17 points, 7 rebounds, 1 block and 1 assist. I guess they both led the way. :D  Brandon Hodge was close behind with 15 points. Dante Williams had 6 points, 6 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Fredonia is now 1-2  and will return to action on Tuesday when they host D'Youville at 7:00 PM 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 07:00:30 PM
D'Youville 87 New Paltz 80

The Hawks had the lead at the half but couldn't break into the win column. Losing this game doesn't bode well for the Hawks. They may be searching for a win for quite some time. Hope I'm wrong but their schedule doesn't get any easier than this game.

Nick Paquette with another big game has 23 points to lead New Paltz. Dylan Balducci hits double figures with 10 points. Kevin Coyle has 8 points and 7 rebounds.

The Hawks are back in action on Tuesday the 22nd when they travel to Middlebury to face the Panthers. That one could be ugly. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 07:21:40 PM
Oswego State 83 Canton 75.

Close to what I predicted as I had this one an 86-73 Laker win. Oswego won the first half by a 40-26 margin and then had to hold off the Kangaroos as they fought back from a 15 point 2nd half deficit to close within 3 points on 4 separate occasions. The Lakers would respond each time and hit 9 of 10 free throws down the stretch to close out the Roos. Brian Sortino led the Lakers with 21 points and 6 assists. Ian Schupp had 16 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists. Mykelle Krecko had a double-double of 13 points and 14 rebounds. He missed a triple double when he could only manage to block 7 shots. 8-)
Keith Tyson was also close to a double-double with 10 points and 8 boards. Brandon Gartland filled up the stat sheet with 9 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

The 2-1 Lakers will host Clarkson on Tuesday the 22nd at 5:30 PM.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 07:24:20 PM
Potsdam breaks into the win column with an 85-68 win over St Joseph's (Bklyn) I picked the Bears to win by a 75-68 score. They wanted to pile it on. Details will follow later.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 07:29:02 PM
Buffalo State is leading Villa Maria 75-64 with7:27 remaining in the game. The Bengals need to run faster if they are going to reach my 102 point prediction.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 07:31:49 PM
Geneseo State with a clunker as they fall to TCNJ by a 79-68 final score Details later.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 08:03:11 PM
Buffalo State 94 Villa Maria 83

Only a combined 177 points I had the Bengals winning 102-85. Missed it by 10 points. Lovell Smith had 35 points and Nico McLean had 19 points. I'll blame it on Mike Henry, he only had 12 points, he should of had 20. Then again he almost had 20 rebounds finishing with 16 but I'm sure that live stats missed a few.

Bengals go to 3-0 and next up is Alfred University, but not until November 29th in Mayberry.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2016, 10:24:35 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 19, 2016, 08:03:11 PM
Buffalo State 94 Villa Maria 83

Only a combined 177 points I had the Bengals winning 102-85. Missed it by 10 points. Lovell Smith had 35 points and Nico McLean had 19 points. I'll blame it on Mike Henry, he only had 12 points, he should of had 20. Then again he almost had 20 rebounds finishing with 16 but I'm sure that live stats missed a few.

Bengals go to 3-0 and next up is Alfred University, but not until November 29th in Mayberry.

You could possibly be right about Henry's missed rebounds. There was stretch in the 2nd half where it seemed like he was grabbing every board for about 3/4 mins.

Hope that you can speak to fran elia (or whomever runs the stats now). SUNYAC website is , in a word, horrible (with regard to stats)...IMHO. To their credit they have all the totals for every teams, wins, points etc, but when you go to individual stats then all of sudden there appears that no players from Oneonta, Potsdam or BUFFALO State have scored a single point , nor gathered a single rebound nor assist. According to SUNYAC stats players from these 3 teams don't exist!!  Not sure what happens between the time the yac records wins/loses and totals and the time in which players from those teams get credit for their totals!!  Put your magic touch to this problem...please!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on November 19, 2016, 10:31:19 PM
Nice weekend for my Bengals (yours too "Bengals Rule"  ;) ) Lovell Smith (my early candidate for POY in the YAC) showed why he is just that, with 35 points and 12 rebounds. Both teams shot a ton of free throws which indicates a slow paced game which is not what the Bengals like to do, BUT nonetheless they are battle tested in an early season at home. I too have always advocated for a tougher non-conference D3 schedule for the Bengals, but nobody wants to come play at the Sports Arena (no idea why, largest crowds, best facilities etc). When the Bengals do go on the road for out of state tourneys, they haven't lost a game in 6 years (unlike other teams in the YAC)! Plattsburgh put up 121 on Elms which was the biggest shock of the weekend to me, and Brockport is off to an early 2-0 year. Enjoy the upcoming holiday gentlemen! Touch base with y'all in a week or so! Law Firm out.

Peace
LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2016, 11:11:20 PM
Quote from: The Law Firm on November 19, 2016, 10:31:19 PM
Plattsburgh put up 121 on Elms which was the biggest shock of the weekend to me,

Don't be cutting my Cards short, LF. They didn't have 121 points against Elms, they had 126 ;D

Quote from: The Law Firm on November 19, 2016, 10:31:19 PM
When the Bengals do go on the road for out of state tourneys, they haven't lost a game in 6 years (unlike other teams in the YAC)!

That's true...the Bengals are out of state tournament road warriors. Now they need to do that in the conference. This could be their year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2016, 12:15:24 PM
Nov. 20   

SUNY Geneseo vs New Rochelle     1:00 PM  Harrisburg, Pa.
@ Penn St.-Harrisburg Tip-Off Tournament Consolation game

The Knights got ambushed yesterday and will get back into the win column today. Not much known about    New Rochelle but the Knights should win and it shouldn't be  that close. Final: Geneseo 78- New Rochelle 68

   
RPI  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM   Championship of the Cardinal Classic    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2016, 12:15:24 PM
Nov. 20   

SUNY Geneseo vs New Rochelle     1:00 PM  Harrisburg, Pa.
@ Penn St.-Harrisburg Tip-Off Tournament Consolation game

The Knights got ambushed yesterday and will get back into the win column today. Not much known about    New Rochelle but the Knights should win and it shouldn't be  that close. Final: Geneseo 78- New Rochelle 68

   
RPI  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM   Championship of the Cardinal Classic

What, no prediction for Plattsburgh game?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2016, 03:24:01 PM
Quote from: The Law Firm on November 19, 2016, 10:31:19 PM
Nice weekend for my Bengals (yours too "Bengals Rule"  ;) ) Lovell Smith (my early candidate for POY in the YAC) showed why he is just that, with 35 points and 12 rebounds. Both teams shot a ton of free throws which indicates a slow paced game which is not what the Bengals like to do, BUT nonetheless they are battle tested in an early season at home. I too have always advocated for a tougher non-conference D3 schedule for the Bengals, but nobody wants to come play at the Sports Arena (no idea why, largest crowds, best facilities etc). When the Bengals do go on the road for out of state tourneys, they haven't lost a game in 6 years (unlike other teams in the YAC)! Plattsburgh put up 121 on Elms which was the biggest shock of the weekend to me, and Brockport is off to an early 2-0 year. Enjoy the upcoming holiday gentlemen! Touch base with y'all in a week or so! Law Firm out.

Peace
LF

I too agree that Lovell has had a terrific start!  Mike Henry ( also all tourney team) has looked very good too! The good thing is that all of the starters plus Grayer and Chateau have made significant contributions this week ( 2 games with 5 players in double figures and 1 game with 4 in double figures)!!

Although we won yesterday, that game got somewhat excruciating with all the fouls plus 2 double techs! I guess when cross town teams meet then these type of games can happen. Personally I felt that the BENGALS should have blown this game open early ( up 16-4 in the first 4 mins)! With conference games less than 2 weeks away ( Magicman can tell you who the BENGALS open conference play against .  Hint it ain't Fredonia)!

I'll take a 3-0 start however our Sunyac overall record needs some wins !  Cheering for the Cards and knights today!  Go SUNYAC

GO BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2016, 03:45:18 PM
Nov. 20

RPI  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM   Championship of the Cardinal Classic

The Cardinals haven't played the Engineers in 36 years but the last time we did on Dec 8th, 1979 we beat them by a score of 61-51. In fact, the all time series is 5-3 in Plattsburgh's favor and those 5 wins have been the last 5 times these teams have met. So the Cardinals have a nice winning streak on the line tonight.

RPI came charging back from a 17 point deficit against Elms to take down the Blazers yesterday afternoon. The final score was 79-71 as the Engineers, especially Tom Horvat hit their free throws down the stretch. Horvat was 9 for 10 from the line and finished with a game high 31 points. The Cardinals will have their work cut out for themselves to contain Horvat. RPI appears to be a bit shorthanded in the front court as 3 of their bigs were sitting on the bench in street clothes. That could prove to be a problem if the Cardinals decide to go with their big lineup.

Both teams are 1-0 in the Cardinal Classic so the winner of tonight's game will be the Champion. Plattsburgh is coming off a program single game record of 126 points. RPI won't want to run with the Cards so I don't see a century mark in tonight's game. I think that Plattsburgh stretches their winning streak against the Engineers to 6 and wins this one. We beat fellow LIberty League member Clarkson on Tuesday by an 84-68 final score. I think we win this game by a similar margin. Plattsburgh 85  RPI 70.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2016, 03:52:28 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
What, no prediction for Plattsburgh game?

Hold your horses! I got a call from my instrument repairman to go pick up a bunch of fixed horns at 12:30 so business got in the way. I do have to put in a few hours of work this week. I've already put in about 100 hours on basketball related activity. There were 4 days this week I didn't go to bed. ::)

The prediction has been posted.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 20, 2016, 07:34:58 PM
Cortland at 1-1 plays Tuesday at 1-2 CCNY in NY City. RDragons meet Ithaca the following Tuesday. Corts J. Cooper named to All-Cortaca Tourney with a pair of double-doubles. Ithaca's M. Chasin event's mvp
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2016, 08:37:20 AM
Geneseo State 86 New Rochelle 74

I had the Knights winning this one 78-68, so my crystal ball wasn't too far off and the margin of victory was even closer. Details later.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2016, 08:47:23 AM
Plattsburgh State wins their Cardinal Classic Championship with a 92-73 win over RPI.

I picked my Cards to win by an 85-70 score. it was 84-70 when the benches were emptied with 4 minutes to go. Still only 88-73 with 1:36 left but the Cardinals got 2 easy baskets on late RPI turnovers. Complete wrap up to follow later on.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2016, 03:27:19 PM
Saturday results:

Potsdam State 85 St Joseph's (Brooklyn) 68

The Bears finally get a win after going nearly a year without a victory. It's more than a little ironic that it came at the expense of a team nicknamed...the Bears. The St. Joe's Bears leave the North Country with an 0-2 record.  The Potsdam Bears last, and only win in the 2015-16 season, came on December 5th of last year against New Paltz. Potsdam could actually have a winning streak coming their way as they are off until December 12th when they travel west to take on Fredonia and Buffalo State. Fortunately for the Bears they get to play the Blue Devils before tangling with the Bengals. Two years ago when the Bears had 2 wins,, one of them came in Fredonia. So it's possible the Bears could win in Fredonia and have their first winning streak of any kind since they won their last game of the 2013-14 season and the first game f the 2014-15 season.

Against the Bears of St Joseph's Potsdam Potsdam's Nosa Onabor scored early and often as he opened the scoring with a 3 pointer on the Bears' first possession. ST' Joe's would forge ahead 8-5 but Onabor sank another 3 to tie the score and on Potsdam's next trip down the court buried another 3 ball to take a lead that Potsdam held throughout the contest. Onabor was just getting warmed up. The 6'4" sophomore guard made 6 more 3 pointers and ended up going 9 for 13 from downtown. He was the games leading scorer with a career high 32 points, and led his team in rebounding as well with 8 boards. His 13 first half points led the hometown Bears to a 14 point, 36-22 halftime advantage over the out of town Bears. Onabor opened the 2nd period with a jumper, a 3 pointer, and another 3 pointer on Potsdam's first 3 possessions and quickly the lead was 20 points. ST Joe's never got closer than 14 points the rest of the way.

Onabor made 10 of 15 shots from the field and that first one to start the 2nd half was the only one that was a 3 ball.  Tyrone Adeyeye  was the only other player in the game with double figure as he had 10 points and 5 rebounds. Jayquan Thomas just missed double digits with 9 points, 4 rebounds and a pair of assists. Matt Piercey had 7 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds, a block and a steal in 14 minutes off the bench.

Potsdam is now 1-2 for the season and will be off until that trip west, to face Fredonia and Buff State on Dec. 2nd and 3rd.

Happy to see Coach Bechtel get that first win in Potsdam. I expect him to get 5 or 6 more this season and gradually build the program back to respectability.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2016, 05:26:27 PM
Saturday results.

Geneseo State 68 The College of New Jersey 79

The Knights didn't have one of their better shooting days against the Lions, especially in the first half and ended up trailing by 9 at the break, 36-27. Geneseo tried to mount a comeback and on several occasions managed to get within a single possession of the Lions, but each time the Jersey Boys had an answer. After falling behind by 10 points early in the 2nd period, the Knights' John Decker hit a trio of 3 pointers over the next 3 minutes to close the gap to 43-40. The Lions built the lead back to 10 at 50-40. After 5 more minutes another Decker long range jumper had whittled the lead back to 3 points and when Decker made one of two from the line the score stood at 56-54. But that was as close as the Knights would get as the Lions hit a 3 and after a Geneseo turnover, scored on an inside bucket, to restore the lead to a 3 possession game. The Lions made 10 of 12 from the line down the stretch to prevent any chance of a Geneseo comeback.

John Decker, once again had the hot hand for the Knights as he dropped in 27 points to capture scoring honors for the game. He also led Geneseo in rebounding with 6 boards. He added 3 assists, a steal and a block. No one else had double figures for the Knights. Justin Ringen tied Decker for the team high in rebounds with 6. Ringen, an all conference 1st team selection last season, has yet to find his scoring touch, as he continues to struggle from the field. He was only 1x9 from the field after going 2x11 in the Knights' season opener against Medaille. He's coming off an injury that kept him off the hardwood for a while, so it's just a matter of time before he starts firing on all cylinders. Charlie Zaepfel had 7 points, 4 assists, 3 boards and a steal in 20 minutes off the bench.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2016, 08:56:16 PM
NEWSFLASH

Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week  - Lovell Smith, Buffalo State
(Sr, G - Buffalo, N.Y.)
Smith averaged 22.7 points and 11.7 rebounds as he registered three-straight double-doubles pacing the Bengals to a 3-0 start. He scored 18 points and had 12 rebounds in a win over Pitt-Bradford on Tuesday. He added 15 points and 11 boards in a win over Maine-Fort Kent on Friday, and then matched his career high with 35 points to accompany 12 rebounds in a win over Villa Maria on Saturday. Smith also had six blocked shot in the three games and was named MVP of the Buffalo State Coles Classic.


Congrats to Lovell. A damn good ball player, but even a better person!

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 06:45:53 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2016, 08:56:16 PM
NEWSFLASH

Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week  - Lovell Smith, Buffalo State
(Sr, G - Buffalo, N.Y.)
Smith averaged 22.7 points and 11.7 rebounds as he registered three-straight double-doubles pacing the Bengals to a 3-0 start. He scored 18 points and had 12 rebounds in a win over Pitt-Bradford on Tuesday. He added 15 points and 11 boards in a win over Maine-Fort Kent on Friday, and then matched his career high with 35 points to accompany 12 rebounds in a win over Villa Maria on Saturday. Smith also had six blocked shot in the three games and was named MVP of the Buffalo State Coles Classic.


Congrats to Lovell. A damn good ball player, but even a better person!

Go BENGALS

Congratulations to Lovell on getting the first weekly award of the 2016-17 season. He had an outstanding 3 games. I'm partial to another player who I thought might win the award this week but I'm not trying to rain on Lovell's parade. A number of players could have been chosen and there can only be one. In reality, if the past selections have any bearing on the case, then Clifton Lyerly should have won the award.

I knew going in that Jon Patron was one of several players up for consideration for the SUNYAC's weekly MVP. I thought that he might sneak out the win because Jon had an outstanding week and did so after rehabbing a knee injury all summer and right up until 10 days ago. He missed the first 3 weeks of practice, didn't participate in the intrasquad scrimmage or the scrimmages against St Michael's and Castleton State.

Jon didn't start in the Cardinal's first game of the year against Clarkson but was inserted into the game as the first player off the bench 5 minutes after the opening tip. He scored 15 points and had 6 rebounds in the first half. He finished with 26 points and 7 boards in 22 minutes.

His 2nd game of the week against Elms College he started and had a double-double of 20 points and 10 rebounds in just 19 minutes of floor time because the Cardinals had such a large lead that Coach Curle had his 2nd and 3rd stringers in the game quite early. Had Jon played his normal 26 to 30 minutes his point total and rebounds would have been considerably higher.

His 3rd game on Sunday was another start against RPI and maybe the YAC didn't consider this game when they looked at Jon's stats. Not sure when they close out the week as it may run Sunday through Saturday or Monday through Sunday. I'll hope that Fran Elia reads this and comments to help me out on that one. ??? Anyway Jon had another double-double of 21 points and 12 rebounds in 26 minutes.

Jon's total stats for the week were accomplished in just an average of 22.3 minutes per game. All 3 games were won by the Cardinals by double digits and Jon's playing time was reduced considerably because of this. Coach Curle will use caution by limiting Jon's minutes when the game is under control. Jon scored almost as many points and had nearly as many boards as Lovell did and played a total of just 67 minutes to 104 minutes for Lovell. Clearly the efficiency of Jon was far and away the best of anyone this past week.

It's also worth mentioning that the Cardinals went 3-0 against 3 NCAA Division III teams so all those games will count come NCAA Tournament Selection week. The Bengals played 2 of their 3 games against non-Division III opponents. So while they have a won-lost record of 3-0, they are only 1-0 in the eyes of the NCAA selection committee, because the games against Maine-Fort Kent and Villa Maria won't count.

Jon's Stats for his 3 games.
   
67 points...an average of 22.3 ppg
29 rebounds...an average of 9.6 rpg
25x45 field goals ....55.5%
6x14 3 pointers......42.8%
11x19 free throws...57.8%
67 total minutes...22.3 minutes per game  Jon was selected to the Cardinal Classic All Tournament Team.

Eli Bryant was another Plattsburgh State player that should have been in the conversation for POTW. 
Eli scored 12, 27 and 20 points in his 3 games for a total of 59 points.
He had a total of 8 assists, 7 rebounds and 5 steals.

59 points....an average of 19.6 ppg
22x44 field goals....50%
7x18 3 pointers.....38.8%
8x11 free throws....72.7%
80 total minutes....26.6 minutes per game. Eli was selected as the MVP of the Cardinal Classic

Mike Henry Buffalo State had a solid week as well. Mike scored 15, 21 and 12 points in his 3 games, along with a total of 31 rebounds. Mike made the All Tournament Team of the Coles Classic.

48 points....an average of16.0 ppg
31 rebounds...an average of 10.3 rpg
20x33 field goals....60.6%
1x4 3 pointers.......25%
7x9 free throws....77.8%
81 total minutes.....27 mpg


Clifton Lyerly and Brockport had a 2-0 week as they won the Case Western Reserve Tournament with a 90-78 win over the host team. A senior guard, Lyerly, had a big 2 game series for the Golden Eagles and in the process scored his 1000th point in a Brockport uniform. Frankly, I'm surprised Clifton didn't win the POTW award because usually when a player scores his 1000th point they win the award that week...especially if they have a good week and Clifton had a great week. He scored 30 points against Hampden-Sydney with 6 rebounds and 6 steals. He followed that up with a 24 point effort against Case Western Reserve and had 7 boards, 3 steals, 2 assists and a block.

Clifton's stats for his 2 games.

54 points...an average of 27 ppg
13 rebounds...an average of 6.5 rpg
20x39 field goals.....51.2%
2x5 3 pointers .......40%
12x15 free throws....80%
57 total minutes......28.5 mpg

Cortland had 2 players with big games in a 1-1 week as they lost to SUNY-Purchase 94-85 and defeated St Joseph's (L.I.) 93-84.

Justin Cooper had a total of 46 points, 22 rebounds, 10 assists, and 3 steals in 71 total minutes. Cooper was 20x20 from the line over the weekend, going 8x8 against Purchase and 12x12 against St. Joe's.

James Morales had a total of 48 points, 8 assists and 5 rebounds. He was 6x11 from downtown and 10x11 from the line in weekend action.

Oneonta had 2 players lead them in a 1-1 week as they beat Cobleskill 94-73 and lost to Keene State 104-90.

Lawrence Coleman scored 45 points (19 and 26) and 15 rebounds (7 and 8) with 6 assists and 2 steals in 45 total minutes of court time. He shot 15x27 from the field (55.5%) and was  14x15 (93.3%) from the line.

Mikey McElroy scored 44 points in the two games (24 and 18). He averaged 7 rebounds and 3 assists as well.

Geneseo got a big effort to open the season from John Decker who led them to a 2-1 week .

John Decker, an All Conference performer for the Knights from last season wasted little time in taking up where he left off. he opened the season with 20 points in a win over Medialle andfollowed that with a 27 point effort in a setback to TCNJ. On Sunday he had 29 points in a win over New Rochelle. He also had 7 assists and 5 steals for the week.

76 points....an average of 25.3 ppg
16 rebounds...an average of 5.3 rpg
22x49 field goals....44.8%
14x31 3 pointers....45.1%
18x22 free throws...81.8%
93 total minutes....31 mpg

Oswego had a 2-1 week and All Conference and preseason All American Brian Sortino led the way. They opened with a loss to Nazareth College and then defeated Canton and SUNY-Maritime.

Brian Sortino scored 63 points with 11 rebounds, 10 assists and 2 steals in the Lakers opening week.

Potsdam opened up with a 1-2 week but there is some joy in Mudville as the Bears got their first win in nearly a year. It was the first win for new Coach Jim Bechtel and hopefully just one of many more to come. They played a decent St. Lawrence team close right up to the final buzzer falling 88-84. They lost to a good Gordon team after leading them by 10 at the break. They got in the win column against St Joe's (Brooklyn) and were led by their young 6'4" sophomore guard, Nosa Onabor.

Nosa Onabor He had a 3 game total of 68 points (27, 9, and 32)with 20 total rebounds and 7 assists.

So there you have it YAC fans, the top 12 performers in the conference for the opening week of the season.
Many of these names will be in contention for the POTW, week after week but there are at least 15 other guys that I can think of right now that didn't make my list of today.

Geneseo's Justin Ringen,  Buff State's Nico McLean, and Plattsburgh State's Eric Mack, a high flying newcomer, guaranteed to make the crowd rise up out of their seats. Oneonta's Frankie Kelly is back for his final year, and Brockport's Hamed Shamseldin can flat out score. Last year's SUNYAC Tournament MVP,  Carrel Joseph can light it up anytime he steps onto the court. Fredonia's Ian Helps and Kareem Brown can also bring it. Potsdam's Josh Blagrove and Plattsburgh's secret weapon, Brandon Johnson can explode for big nights as well. Johnson already had a big game for the Cardinals with a 21 point, 5 rebound, 5 assist, 2 steals game against Elms College last Friday. Oswego's Mykelle Krecko and Keith Tyson can put up double doubles in the blink of an eye. They each have one already this season and the 6'10" Krecko can swat 10 shots aside as well. He almost had a triple double earlier, when he only had 7 blocks to come up a bit short. New Paltz is struggling right now but the Hawks Nick Paquette can shoot lights out and carry his team for stretches. Buff State's Jordan Glover is another sharpshooter that can make you pay if you don't get after him on the 3 point line.  Another Jordan, for the Bengals, Jordan Chateau can prove dangerous inside. "The Big House" is capable of a double-double every time he steps on the court.

I'm sure other names will emerge as the season progresses. I know just from watching my Plattsburgh State Cardinals there are at least 3 guys in our sophomore class, that can and will have breakout games this season. And there's a freshman on the team that hasn't even suited up yet, who may be the best 3 point shooter on the team. We're keeping him under wraps and saving him for Buffalo State on December 2nd. ;D Other programs will also have their hidden gems, whether they are freshman or JC transfers, or just transfers from another 4 year school.

The YAC is loaded this year so hang on to your hats because it's going to be a wild ride. And it will be fun!! 8-) :)     


 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 22, 2016, 09:21:13 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 22, 2016, 06:45:53 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2016, 08:56:16 PM
NEWSFLASH

Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week  - Lovell Smith, Buffalo State
(Sr, G - Buffalo, N.Y.)
Smith averaged 22.7 points and 11.7 rebounds as he registered three-straight double-doubles pacing the Bengals to a 3-0 start. He scored 18 points and had 12 rebounds in a win over Pitt-Bradford on Tuesday. He added 15 points and 11 boards in a win over Maine-Fort Kent on Friday, and then matched his career high with 35 points to accompany 12 rebounds in a win over Villa Maria on Saturday. Smith also had six blocked shot in the three games and was named MVP of the Buffalo State Coles Classic.


Congrats to Lovell. A damn good ball player, but even a better person!

Go BENGALS

Congratulations to Lovell on getting the first weekly award of the 2016-17 season. He had an outstanding 3 games. I'm partial to another player who I thought might win the award this week but I'm not trying to rain on Lovell's parade. A number of players could have been chosen and there can only be one. In reality, if the past selections have any bearing on the case, then Clifton Lyerly should have won the award.

I knew going in that Jon Patron was one of several players up for consideration for the SUNYAC's weekly MVP. I thought that he might sneak out the win because Jon had an outstanding week and did so after rehabbing a knee injury all summer and right up until 10 days ago. He missed the first 3 weeks of practice, didn't participate in the intrasquad scrimmage or the scrimmages against St Michael's and Castleton State.

Jon didn't start in the Cardinal's first game of the year against Clarkson but was inserted into the game as the first player off the bench 5 minutes after the opening tip. He scored 15 points and had 6 rebounds in the first half. He finished with 26 points and 7 boards in 22 minutes.

His 2nd game of the week against Elms College he started and had a double-double of 20 points and 10 rebounds in just 19 minutes of floor time because the Cardinals had such a large lead that Coach Curle had his 2nd and 3rd stringers in the game quite early. Had Jon played his normal 26 to 30 minutes his point total and rebounds would have been considerably higher.

His 3rd game on Sunday was another start against RPI and maybe the YAC didn't consider this game when they looked at Jon's stats. Not sure when they close out the week as it may run Sunday through Saturday or Monday through Sunday. I'll hope that Fran Elia reads this and comments to help me out on that one. ??? Anyway Jon had another double-double of 21 points and 12 rebounds in 26 minutes.

Jon's total stats for the week were accomplished in just an average of 22.3 minutes per game. All 3 games were won by the Cardinals by double digits and Jon's playing time was reduced considerably because of this. Coach Curle will use caution by limiting Jon's minutes when the game is under control. Jon scored almost as many points and had nearly as many boards as Lovell did and played a total of just 67 minutes to 104 minutes for Lovell. Clearly the efficiency of Jon was far and away the best of anyone this past week.

It's also worth mentioning that the Cardinals went 3-0 against 3 NCAA Division III teams so all those games will count come NCAA Tournament Selection week. The Bengals played 2 of their 3 games against non-Division III opponents. So while they have a won-lost record of 3-0, they are only 1-0 in the eyes of the NCAA selection committee, because the games against Maine-Fort Kent and Villa Maria won't count.

Jon's Stats for his 3 games.
   
67 points...an average of 22.3 ppg
29 rebounds...an average of 9.6 rpg
25x45 field goals ....55.5%
6x14 3 pointers......42.8%
11x19 free throws...57.8%
67 total minutes...22.3 minutes per game  Jon was selected to the Cardinal Classic All Tournament Team.

Eli Bryant was another Plattsburgh State player that should have been in the conversation for POTW. 
Eli scored 12, 27 and 20 points in his 3 games for a total of 59 points.
He had a total of 8 assists, 7 rebounds and 5 steals.

59 points....an average of 19.6 ppg
22x44 field goals....50%
7x18 3 pointers.....38.8%
8x11 free throws....72.7%
80 total minutes....26.6 minutes per game. Eli was selected as the MVP of the Cardinal Classic

Mike Henry Buffalo State had a solid week as well. Mike scored 15, 21 and 12 points in his 3 games, along with a total of 31 rebounds. Mike made the All Tournament Team of the Coles Classic.

48 points....an average of16.0 ppg
31 rebounds...an average of 10.3 rpg
20x33 field goals....60.6%
1x4 3 pointers.......25%
7x9 free throws....77.8%
81 total minutes.....27 mpg


Clifton Lyerly and Brockport had a 2-0 week as they won the Case Western Reserve Tournament with a 90-78 win over the host team. A senior guard, Lyerly, had a big 2 game series for the Golden Eagles and in the process scored his 1000th point in a Brockport uniform. Frankly, I'm surprised Clifton didn't win the POTW award because usually when a player scores his 1000th point they win the award that week...especially if they have a good week and Clifton had a great week. He scored 30 points against Hampden-Sydney with 6 rebounds and 6 steals. He followed that up with a 24 point effort against Case Western Reserve and had 7 boards, 3 steals, 2 assists and a block.

Clifton's stats for his 2 games.

54 points...an average of 27 ppg
13 rebounds...an average of 6.5 rpg
20x39 field goals.....51.2%
2x5 3 pointers .......40%
12x15 free throws....80%
57 total minutes......28.5 mpg

Cortland had 2 players with big games in a 1-1 week as they lost to SUNY-Purchase 94-85 and defeated St Joseph's (L.I.) 93-84.

Justin Cooper had a total of 46 points, 22 rebounds, 10 assists, and 3 steals in 71 total minutes. Cooper was 20x20 from the line over the weekend, going 8x8 against Purchase and 12x12 against St. Joe's.

James Morales had a total of 48 points, 8 assists and 5 rebounds. He was 6x11 from downtown and 10x11 from the line in weekend action.

Oneonta had 2 players lead them in a 1-1 week as they beat Cobleskill 94-73 and lost to Keene State 104-90.

Lawrence Coleman scored 45 points (19 and 26) and 15 rebounds (7 and 8) with 6 assists and 2 steals in 45 total minutes of court time. He shot 15x27 from the field (55.5%) and was  14x15 (93.3%) from the line.

Mikey McElroy scored 44 points in the two games (24 and 18). He averaged 7 rebounds and 3 assists as well.

Geneseo got a big effort to open the season from John Decker who led them to a 2-1 week .

John Decker, an All Conference performer for the Knights from last season wasted little time in taking up where he left off. he opened the season with 20 points in a win over Medialle andfollowed that with a 27 point effort in a setback to TCNJ. On Sunday he had 29 points in a win over New Rochelle. He also had 7 assists and 5 steals for the week.

76 points....an average of 25.3 ppg
16 rebounds...an average of 5.3 rpg
22x49 field goals....44.8%
14x31 3 pointers....45.1%
18x22 free throws...81.8%
93 total minutes....31 mpg

Oswego had a 2-1 week and All Conference and preseason All American Brian Sortino led the way. They opened with a loss to Nazareth College and then defeated Canton and SUNY-Maritime.

Brian Sortino scored 63 points with 11 rebounds, 10 assists and 2 steals in the Lakers opening week.

Potsdam opened up with a 1-2 week but there is some joy in Mudville as the Bears got their first win in nearly a year. It was the first win for new Coach Jim Bechtel and hopefully just one of many more to come. They played a decent St. Lawrence team close right up to the final buzzer falling 88-84. They lost to a good Gordon team after leading them by 10 at the break. They got in the win column against St Joe's (Brooklyn) and were led by their young 6'4" sophomore guard, Nosa Onabor.

Nosa Onabor He had a 3 game total of 68 points (27, 9, and 32)with 20 total rebounds and 7 assists.

So there you have it YAC fans, the top 12 performers in the conference for the opening week of the season.
Many of these names will be in contention for the POTW, week after week but there are at least 15 other guys that I can think of right now that didn't make my list of today.

Geneseo's Justin Ringen,  Buff State's Nico McLean, and Plattsburgh State's Eric Mack, a high flying newcomer, guaranteed to make the crowd rise up out of their seats. Oneonta's Frankie Kelly is back for his final year, and Brockport's Hamed Shamseldin can flat out score. Last year's SUNYAC Tournament MVP,  Carrel Joseph can light it up anytime he steps onto the court. Fredonia's Ian Helps and Kareem Brown can also bring it. Potsdam's Josh Blagrove and Plattsburgh's secret weapon, Brandon Johnson can explode for big nights as well. Johnson already had a big game for the Cardinals with a 21 point, 5 rebound, 5 assist, 2 steals game against Elms College last Friday. Oswego's Mykelle Krecko and Keith Tyson can put up double doubles in the blink of an eye. They each have one already this season and the 6'10" Krecko can swat 10 shots aside as well. He almost had a triple double earlier, when he only had 7 blocks to come up a bit short. New Paltz is struggling right now but the Hawks Nick Paquette can shoot lights out and carry his team for stretches. Buff State's Jordan Glover is another sharpshooter that can make you pay if you don't get after him on the 3 point line.  Another Jordan, for the Bengals, Jordan Chateau can prove dangerous inside. "The Big House" is capable of a double-double every time he steps on the court.

I'm sure other names will emerge as the season progresses. I know just from watching my Plattsburgh State Cardinals there are at least 3 guys in our sophomore class, that can and will have breakout games this season. And there's a freshman on the team that hasn't even suited up yet, who may be the best 3 point shooter on the team. We're keeping him under wraps and saving him for Buffalo State on December 2nd. ;D Other programs will also have their hidden gems, whether they are freshman or JC transfers, or just transfers from another 4 year school.

The YAC is loaded this year so hang on to your hats because it's going to be a wild ride. And it will be fun!! 8-) :)     


  damn magicman, if this aint "rain"ing on Lovells SUNYAC Player of the Week award, then I definitely don't want to be around when you do rain on an award that was voted on by the SUNYAC.  14 words congratulating Lovell and probably over 400 words as to why he should not have gotten the award let alone why Buff State really isn't 3-0 in the eyes of some! Thank God SUNYAC  took into consideration that Lovell had 3 great games against 3 college teams. Had the 2 other victories been against D1 Albany and U. B. ( and we all can think of teams in the Yac who have played D1 teams, which were never poo pooed in anyway, shape or form)  and Lovell performed the same , then I'm am sure he still would have gotten the award although"technically" the BENGALS D3 record would be only 1 -0.

  Tough start buddy. In the future, if ever you do decide to rain on Lovell, who in my humble opinion, is one of the most mannerable players that I have ever met , then give me a heads up so I can pass on the boards for about a week or so! I know we all love our guys and especially around all SUNYAC time, we want to prop our boys up. But 1st award of the year gets this??  Tough start.  At least I know now that every week we will get a top 10 synopsis of the best 'Yac players each week. I cant wait till...... November 29th (next game vs Alfred)!

Thank GOD you didn't "rain" on Lovell's parade! 

Go Lovell!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 22, 2016, 10:04:29 AM
Sunyac at 16-11 ( minus what ever games that magicman says don't count).  7 non-conference games tonight. The 'Yac could use at least 6 wins to boast our conference rankings. GOD knows when we start pummeling each other on Dec 2nd, then we only hurt each other. Right now we can benefit from beating up on teams from other conferences!  It helps come tourney time!  Im convinced that "yac got 3 bids last year because of our good non conference record!

Massey had SUNYAC rated 14th last week, now they have us at 16th (15-12 record)! 7 games tonight plus 3 more this week/weekend! I'll leave predictions to others...just win baby (in my Al Davis voice)!! Looks like New Paltz has the biggest challenge tonight as they face #18 ranked (massey)/#24 ranked (D3 Hoops) Middlebury! Oneonta is next vs #56th ranked (massey ) St John Fisher!  I would be surprised if any of the other 5 games were not wins for the 'Yac!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 10:43:32 AM
Plattsburgh State wins their Cardinal Classic Championship with a 92-73 win over RPI.

The Cardinals were coming off a school record 126 point outburst against Elms College on Friday night. RPI had also defeated Elms on Saturday night but had to come from 17 points down to do so. You have to give the Engineers a lot of credit because it looked like Elms was going to run them out of the gym. They hung in there, took the Blazers best shots and then started unleashing some best shots of their own. They cut the lead to 6 at the half and then used their outside shooting to score 47 2nd half points and win a 77-71 ball game.

I expected RPI to play a more deliberate style in their offensive sets and try to limit the Plattsburgh possessions but the Engineers threw caution to the wind and an up tempo game that favored the Cardinals was what played out. Plattsburgh drew first blood on big man, Isaiah Hill's, sweet 3 pointer but the Engineers answered with a 3 pointer by their own big man Brian Hatcher. The teams traded baskets and the Cardinals broke on top 16-10 after getting a pair of buckets from Jon Patron, one inside and one from long range, and 6 points from Eli Bryant. But defense wasn't the name of the game and after RPI went on a 12-4 run to grab the lead at 22-20. Plattsburgh called a time out and the coaching staff was very vocal in their displeasure of what had just transpired on the court. The coach asked the team if they had any pride because they sure weren't looking like they did on the defensive end. From that point the Engineers got 4 quick points from Hatcher and two big bombs from Kevin Davis to give them their largest lead of the night t 32-24 with 10 minutes left in the half. The Cardinals finally found their defensive mode and led by 2nd unit players Brandon Johnson, Ian Howard, Eric Mack and Adam Jacquish they went on a 14-1 tear and regained the lead at 38-33. The Cards got an electrifying dunk by Eric Mack off an offensive rebound that was timed perfectly and brought the crowd to its feet with 1:36 left in the period. Chris Middleton made a nice move to get loose inside and lay one in to give Plattsburgh a 49-41 lead at the break.

The Cardinals opened up the 2nd stanza with an 11-4 run and with 3:27 elasped in he period they had a 60-45 double digit lead. It was a comfort zone they were able to enjoy for the rest of the game. RPI made a few brief surges but couldn't bridge the gap between the teams. They cut it to single digits at 62-53 but another 15-5 burst, fueled by 8 points from Eli Bryant, put the game out of reach as the Cardinals led by as much as 
20 points with 5:59 to go on a Jon Patron tip in.

Jon Patron led the Cardinals with another double-double of 21 points (8x16 fg, 2x7 3's, 3x4 ft) and 12 rebounds.

Eli Bryant had 20 points (8x14 fg, 1x3 3's, 3x4 ft) with 3 assists and 3 rebounds.

Chris Middleton had a nearly perfect night shooting the rock as he reset his career high with 14 points, (6x7 fg, 2x2 ft). He added 4 rebounds,  2 assists and a steal.

Zack Coleman and Brandon Johnson both had 8 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Eric Mack covered the stat sheet with 6 rebounds, 5 points, 3 assists, 3 blocks and 3 steals.

Freshman Adam Jacquish getting some quality minutes during a tightly contested first half grabbed 7 rebounds had 2 points, 1 assist and a steal in 11 minutes of court time.

Plattsburgh shot 37x65 from the field (56.9%), 4x16 from 3 point land (25%) and 14x25 (56.9%) from the line.  The Cards outrebounded RPI 46-27 and ended up with 13 turnovers to 16 for the Engineers. Plattsburgh outshot RPI in all 3 categories.


RPI was led by Brian Hatcher who tossed in a game high 25 points. He added 4 boards, 3 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Tom Horvat and Jon Luster both had 12 points, assists, and a steal. Horvat added 4 rebounds and Luster had 8. Kevin Davis scored 11 points and 2 boards.

The Engineers shot 26x62 (41.9%) from the field, 9x27 (33.3%) from beyond the arc and 12x25 (48.0%) from the stripe

Plattsburgh 3-0 (2-0 Liberty League) is off until Tuesday November 29th when they travel to St. Lawrence to take on their 3rd Liberty League team of the month.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 22, 2016, 10:55:41 AM
7 games tonight

The only SUNYAC team without a win tonight will be New Paltz.

Oneonta a double digit win over St John Fisher. They have the BIG 3 in Coleman McElroy and Kelly. Fisher will not be able to hang with the Red Dragons. This is going to be a Special year for this group.

Big Wins for,
Brockport
Oswego
Cortland
Geneseo
And D'Youville could give Fredonia a run for the money

Enjoy the Games

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 11:39:46 AM
Bengalsrule,

I wasn't trying to belittle Lovell Smith's accomplishments this past week. He had 3 very good games and it was no surprise to me that he won the POTW award. In fact on Sunday night I looked at all the stats for the week and figured his 3 doubles-doubles and the 35 point night made him the frontrunner and likely winner. I probably did promote my guy a bit too heavily but I was trying to put his accomplishments in persepective, that's all. I'm sorry if it came across as my guy should have won and your guy shouldn't have. I've never been a big fan of the Player of the Week Award. I think many times the wrong person wins it for the wrong reasons and many times the most deserving person doesn't get the award and certainly this week there were a lot of POTW worthy accomplishments.

Personally I think there should be a Team of the Week instead of a POTW so that more of the student athletes get some recognition. Much better to honor 60 players (5 players times 15 weeks) than 1 player a week for 15 weeks and with the repeat awards maybe only 7 or 8 players get any recognition. I believe that there were several players last year that won the award multiple times and that seems to happen every year. So a large number of players who work hard all year long get no recognition during the course of the season. 

I also remember the lack of consistency in awarding the POTW is past years. Several years ago a player had a great 3 game week but the award went to another player who scored his 1000th point that week,played 2 games and really had a rather lackadaisical week. But he got the award because it was viewed as a career achievement rather than a weekly best. That was why I made the remark about Brockport's Clifton Lyerly. He had a great 2 game series and scored his 1000th point and yet he didn't win the award. And I have no problem with that, but it's not consistent with the way they did things in the past. I've also seen a player have a great week but lose out to another player with good stats against lesser competition. I remember that happened to a Brockport player a few years ago. I saw a player with huge numbers lose the award because his team went 2-1 for the week when another player with lesser stats played on a team against lesser competition and went 3-0.

I told you several years ago that the YAC should go to a Team of the Week like other conferences have done.
My listing a number of players in my post wasn't to state that Lovell should have been passed over and here's all the reasons why. I'm glad that if my guy didn't get it that Lovell did. I just wanted to give a bunch of other players, that had a great week, a little recognition. It's not the first time I've done this, as I've done it on numerous occasions and it won't be the last time I do it. And I don't do it every week but do it as I have time.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 22, 2016, 12:16:06 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 22, 2016, 10:04:29 AM

Massey had SUNYAC rated 14th last week, now they have us at 16th (15-12 record)! 7 games tonight plus 3 more this week/weekend! I'll leave predictions to others...just win baby (in my Al Davis voice)!! Looks like New Paltz has the biggest challenge tonight as they face #18 ranked (massey)/#24 ranked (D3 Hoops) Middlebury! Oneonta is next vs #56th ranked (massey ) St John Fisher!  I would be surprised if any of the other 5 games were not wins for the 'Yac!

I wouldn't put much stock in Massey rankings this early in the season ... maybe in late January and February, but never this early.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 22, 2016, 12:26:11 PM
Definitely agree, there should be a Team of the Week.
There is so much talent in the SUNYAC, each week there are so many great accomplishments from these players.
There are easily 4 to 5 players that can win the award each week.
Great first week of basketball, it's going to be a fantastic year for the SUNYAC.
It's one of the most talented conferences in the country.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 22, 2016, 01:26:50 PM
Ladies and gentlemen. Presenting today.......The first ever USUNYAC  (Unofficial State University of New York Athletic Conference) Team Of the Week!  aka USUNYAC TOW 
Lovell Smith - Buffalo State
68 pts ....an average of 22.7 ppg
35 rebounds ..... an average of 11.7 rpg

Jon Patron - Plattsburgh
67 points...an average of 22.3 ppg
29 rebounds...an average of 9.6 rpg

Justin Cooper - Cortland
46 points - an average of 23.0  ppg
22 rebounds - an average of 11.0 rpg

Mike Henry  - Buffalo State
48 points....an average of 16.0 ppg
31 rebounds...an average of 10.3 rpg

Clifton Lyerly - Brockport
54 points...an average of 27 ppg
13 rebounds...an average of 6.5 rpg

Any nominations should be submitted by Sunday night 10 p.m. est!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 22, 2016, 02:23:40 PM
Love It  ;) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 03:30:05 PM
Nov. 22  7 games on tap for tonight   

Brockport State  at  St. Joseph's (L.I.)        5:00 PM

The Golden Eagles will win this game and I can guarantee that! Picking the right Golden Eagles shouldn't prove to be a problem either. The Brockport variety should prevail here over their downstate cousins and it shouldn't be close. Brockportort favored by 18. I think they win by more than that.
Brockport's Golden Eagles 92  St Joseph's Golden Eagles 69.

Clarkson  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM

Clarkson has already lost to 1 SUNYAC team and tonight takes on Oswego. This Sunday, November 27th it's possible that they might play Oswego State again. They are both participating in the Hamilton Invitational this weekend. Oswego plays Cobly and Hamilton plays Clarkson on Saturday. If they both win or both lose then they will face each other on Sunday. This is an interesting tournament simply because Adam Stockwell, Hamiltons head coach, was in charge of the Clarkson program from 2004-09. He then moved to Oswego State for 2 years and then took over at Hamilton for the 2011-12 season. So he's coached 3 of the 4 school in the tournament and he plays against the other school,Colby in the NESCAC Conference. Clarkson also has a game against crosstown rival Potsdam State in early December. It's possible Clarkson could be 0-4 in the SUNYAC this year. The Golden Knights could pull off an upset here but it's highly unlikely. The oddsmakers have Clarkson listed as a 10 point underdog. I think they lose by at least that much. Lakers win 78- 64.

      
New Paltz State at  Middlebury        5:30 PM

The Panthers will feast on the Hawks tonight. I wish it wasn't true but I can see Middlebury running away with this one. The oddsmakers feel the same as they have the Panthers listed as a 22 point favorite. Middlebury wins by a 91-62 final score.


Cortland State  at  CCNY        6:00 PM

Cortland travels to the Big Apple and takes on the Beavers in the first matchup with CCNY and a SUNYAC school since the Beavers beat Buffalo State 63-62 back on December 30th 2009. The YAC should gain a measure of revenge here this evening, as Cortland is favored by 11 points. I think the Red Dragons win by more. Cortland 86 CCNY 68.

   
Oneonta State  at  St. John Fisher        7:00 PM

Keegan Ryan, Fisher's center, is a one man wrecking crew for the Cardinals. He has several starters back with him from last years team that went 21-6 but didn't get an at large bid to the NCAA tournament after they were upset by Hartwick in the Empire 8 playoffs. Last year the Red Dragons beat the Cardinals in Oneonta, but are 5 point underdogs this year according to the experts that make the point spread. I'll root for the underdogs. Coach Conover owes Fisher a beating because the last time he faced them he was an assistant coach on Plattsburgh State's bench in the 2nd round of action in the NCAA tournament on March 3, 2007. Fisher beat Plattsburgh State 95-87 that night to advance to the Sweet 16.  Oneonta wins a close one 81-77.

      
D'Youville  at  Fredonia State        7:00 PM   V LS

The D'Youville Spartans already own a win over the SUNYAC this season when they took a close one over New Paltz last Saturday. Now they look to go 2-0 in our conference. The last time these 2 teams hooked up the final score was 75-74 and the Blue Devils won the nail biter. That was Novenber 26th 2013. The current players on both teams were all still in high school.The point spread favors the Blue Devils by an 8 point margin but I think it may be a bit closer than that. Fredonia 76 D'Youville 70.

 
Geneseo State  at  Morrisville State        7:00 PM   V LS

Morrisville shouldn't be taken lightly here as the Mustangs are 2-1 coming into this game and their 1 loss was to Nazareth College in an 84-80 shootout that came right down to the end. There were 23 lead changes in that game and 13 of them came in the 2nd half. Nazareth just to remind everyone, opened the season by defeating Oswego State 63-57. Geneseo is coming off a win in  the consolation game of the Penn State-Harrisburg Tip Off Tournament against first year program New Rochelle. The oddsmakers have made the Knights a 7 point favorite and while I'm picking the YAC team to win this game it won't surprise me if the Mustangs pull off a mild upset here. Geneseo needs to take care of business, share the ball and crash the boards. Morrisville beat Utica College by outrebounding them by a 48 to 32 margin. If they do that to the Knights then Geneseo will lose this game.  Justin Ringen will find his touch tonight and John Decker will continue his torrid pace. Geneseo 87 Moville 82.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 22, 2016, 04:01:22 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 22, 2016, 02:23:40 PM
Love It  ;)

Thanks all -time. Ill be looking forward to jdex, magicman, with age (to name a few) and your nominations this Sunday!  We could be on to something! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 22, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Magicman.....see you are as busy as ever on this board.  Seems that 7express needs us to join the pick 'm board in the LEC.  I just joined after the NESCAC Fall sports are in the books.  Was going to call you on the matter but figure it was cheaper this way.
Been chatting with Middhoops over on the LEC board as the Middlebury fans...Vandy74, Middhoops and Bucket.. were at the ECSU Tourny in  Williamatic, CT.  Midd won the event and should give Plattsburgh a battle this year in my bias opinion.
FYI, Amherst beat St. Lawrence in LeFrak this past Saturday in the title match.  Will be interesting to see how your team will do against them later in the month.  Looks like Midd and Amherst are among the favorite for the CAC title and St. Lawrence in their conference. Anyway, as you may already be aware, Bowdoin is among the title challengers in the CAC in WBB but both Tufts and Amherst are presently rated higher nationally.
Have a  warm Thanksgiving all.  See it is been snowing hard in NYState :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 06:31:58 PM
Middlebury absolutely putting a monkey stomping on New Paltz as the Panthers lead at the half 56-24.

Matt St. Amour with 17 first half points for Middlebury. Zach Baines 12 points. Jack Daly and Adisa Majors 7 points each.

Andrew Seniuk and Malik Seelal  with 5 points each for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 06:33:54 PM
New Paltz now trails 70-30 with 14 minutes left in the game.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 07:22:46 PM
Middlebury defeats New Paltz 94-62.

I said the Panthers would win by a 91-62 final score. I'm gonna have a few words with Perry Delorenzo when he and his Panthers come to Plattsburgh on Valentines day to take on the Cardinals. His basket with just over a minute remaining was the final points the Panthers put up on the scoreboard. He misses that shot and 1 of his two free throws seconds earlier and I have a perfect score. Damn man. :o ??? ::)

Matt St. Amour led the Panthers with 27 points. Zach Baines and Eric McCord each had 12 markers, while Baines had 6 boards and McCord had 8. Adisa Majors had 11 points and Nick Tarantino led the Vermont team with 9 rebounds.

Dylan Balducci led the Hawks with 12 points and Nick Arthur has 10 points. Arthur had 4 rebounds and tied for the team high with 3 other players.

Middlebury improves to 3-0 and will be back in action on Sunday 11-27 as they host Endicott at 2:00 PM

New Paltz 0-4 will return to the hardwood on Tuesday Nov 29th when they travel to Springfield for a 7:00 PM  matchup.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 08:14:26 PM
Quote from: amh63 on November 22, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Magicman.....see you are as busy as ever on this board.  Seems that 7express needs us to join the pick 'm board in the LEC.  I just joined after the NESCAC Fall sports are in the books.  Was going to call you on the matter but figure it was cheaper this way.
Been chatting with Middhoops over on the LEC board as the Middlebury fans...Vandy74, Middhoops and Bucket.. were at the ECSU Tourny in  Williamatic, CT.  Midd won the event and should give Plattsburgh a battle this year in my bias opinion.
FYI, Amherst beat St. Lawrence in LeFrak this past Saturday in the title match.  Will be interesting to see how your team will do against them later in the month.  Looks like Midd and Amherst are among the favorite for the CAC title and St. Lawrence in their conference. Anyway, as you may already be aware, Bowdoin is among the title challengers in the CAC in WBB but both Tufts and Amherst are presently rated higher nationally.
Have a  warm Thanksgiving all.  See it is been snowing hard in NYState :).

Yes, my friend, it's that time of year. Last week was a fun filled week full of live action on Tuesday in Potsdam for the Plattsburgh State-Clarkson game, then down to Albany for the Univ. Albany-Oneonta State  game on Wednesday. Live internet action on Thursday followed by more live courtside action on Friday, Saturday and Sunday at the Cardinal Classic, here in Plattsburgh. My Cardinals won all 3 games by double figures and the first one on Tuesday was an early birthday present for me.

Saw that the Middlebury boys went to the tourney in Willimantic after you set them straight as to where they were actually going to go. :D Actually have to respond to middhoops from a PM he sent me a week or so ago. Been to busy to even answer my mail. I'm actually watching the Middlebury-New Paltz game as I type this. Middlebury up by 39 points 90-51. The Panthers and Cardinals will have a heck of a game on Valentines Day here in Plattsburgh. I hope they both are near the top of their respective leagues when that battle takes place. You may not know this but in the Undefeated and Winless contest my team to go undefeated the longest is your Amherst Lord Jeffs. If they can get by Babson next month I may be safe for a while.

Tufts just got stronger as Vincent Pace returns to action tonight for the Jumbos. he leads all scorers at halftime with 11 points.

Saw that Amherst handled SLU rather easily over the weekend. SLU doesn't have much of an interior game and were at a decided disadvantage against the LJ's. My Cardinals should be too athletic for them. Plus the new top assistant at Plattsburgh State, a former player here for Coach Curle a few years ago, was the top assistant at SLU last year. He knows that team inside and out. Coach Curle's longtime assistant of 11 years, Cameron Conover, is now the new head coach at Oneonta State. So Curle went and got Chris Manning who was the Cardinal point guard in 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons. Chris led the nation in steals one year and steals per game the next year.

I won't be playing in the LEC pick ems this year. Cut back on the number of Fantasy teams I'm in. Too many things to do at my house and business this year. Just doing the National Pick Em League weekly contest and the NCAA Fantasy league at the end of the regular season.

The Bowdoin women will be competitive that's for sure but don't think they have the horses (size) to get past Amherst and Tufts. May need an at large bid to go dancing again. Hope they get it as Ms. Curle is a senior and would like her to go out in style.

Yes we finally got some snow on Sunday. 60 degrees and sunny on Saturday. 30 degrees and snow on Sunday. Such is life in the North Country. ::) Can't complain though as it's been a very mild fall up here. I wouldn't live anywhere else.   

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 08:25:23 PM
Fredonia rolling over D'Youville 73-45 with 9:33 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 08:26:44 PM
Geneseo in a tight one with Morrisville 69-66 with 12 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 08:28:12 PM
Final score Brockport defeats St Joe's (LI) 67-53
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 08:40:32 PM
Oswego State defeats Clarkson in overtime 72-71. It wouldn't have surprised me if Clarkson pulled off the upset here. Clearly, the Lakers aren't in mid-season form. They should have won this game by double figures.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 22, 2016, 08:44:48 PM
Cortland ekes out 78-77 win at CCNY although trailing till the final moments when M. Kelly connects on driving layup at 0:03. Never leads until J. Rivera FT at 1:13 provides 76-75 edge. Hosts regain lead at 0:46. Corts down 40-35 at half and by 13 with 10 minutes left.
    J. Cooper 19 points pace RDragons. Adds 9 rebs, 5 assts, 3 stls. Kelly with 17 pts., A. Hampton 11 rebs, Z. Lydon 9 pts and 8 rebs, N. Bonura 9 pts on three first half 3s. CCNY makes hay off Dragon turnovers to tune of 23-3 advanatage.
   
    Corts 2-1, CCNY 1-3 and was coming off win at Montclair.
    Cortland entertains Ithaca next Tuesday eve
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2016, 08:55:26 PM
Oneonta trying to comeback from a 10 point deficit now trails by a 65-61 score and Mikey McElroy on the line.

He makes the first one  and makes the 2nd to narrow the gap to 65-63 with 3 :40 to go.

Ryan scores for Fisher but Oneonta's Jack Kolosky scores to answer and it's still a 2 point game 67-65.

Fisher gets two free throws to go back up by 4 points and McElroy drives, scores and is fouled, He misses the free throw and it's now 69-67.

Fisher's Height  scores and Keegan scores for Oneonta to make the score 71-69 with 1:49 to go . Time out by Fisher. 1:26 to go

Fisher misses a 3 pointer and Oneonta grabs the rebound and calls  time out.

Coleman drives for a layup and misses and is called for a foul fighting for the rebound.

Fisher hits both free throws and the lead is 4 points.

Kelly drives to the basket scores and is fouled with 57 seconds left. He misses the free throw and the lead is 2 and Fisher with the ball.

Fisher's English drives and misses but a foul is called on McElroy. English makes both free trows and the score is 75-71 with 35 seconds left.

Oneonta misses on a drive and another foul is called on Deegan. Fisher's Hare make them both and the lead is 6 points. Oneonta misses a 3 pointer and Fisher gets a breakaway and a throwdown to make it an 8 point lead. Kelly gets fouled with 6 seconds left. he makes them both but this game is over. The Red Dragons foul on the inbound pass and English makes 1 of 2. Kelly makes a jumper off a long pass but time runs out and the final score is 80-75 in favor of the Cardinals from St John Fisher.

Mikey McElroy has a game high 29 points to lead the Red Dragons and Keegan Ryan leads Fisher with 19 points.

Tough loss for Oneonta. Twice in the final 3 minutes they had a chance to tie the game but drove the lane and missed layups that were makable baskets. They also missed the "and one" on 2 calls that would have tied the game. Great effort though fighting back from 10 points down to make it a one possession game for most of the final five minutes.   
 




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2016, 03:43:34 AM
Geneseo holds off the Mustangs from Morrisonville by a 103-93 score.

This was my comment from my afternoon predictions. " Justin Ringen will find his touch tonight and John Decker will continue his torrid pace"

I think my crystal ball had a radar lock on the Knghts as Justin Ringen broke out of his shooting slump in a big way tonight with an 11x17 effort from the field, 7x12 from downtown and 7x8 from the line. That adds up to 36 points and he wasn't even the leading scorer for the Knights. That honor goes to the fellow I said will continue his torrid pace. John Decker had a game high 41 points by shooting 13x25 from the field, 6x12 from behind the arc and 9x10 from the stripe. Decker just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds, and added 2 assists with a steal. Ringen had 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks. The two guards combined for 77 of Geneseo's 103 points.

The dynamic duo got the ball rolling with a host of 3 pointers right from the opening bell. Decker was first on the scene with a 3 ball on th Knights very first possession.  Ringen followed 29 seconds later with his first 3 pointer. Decker made a layup and Ringen buried another three. Decker made a 3 pointer, then made another.  Ringen made a 3 pointer and Decker made another. With 6 minutes gone by in the game the score was 23-11 and the J & J boys had scored all 23 points. They had seven 3 pointers between them and they were just getting warmed up.

Morrisville had a couple of horses on their team as well named Trent Ward, and Kevin Dennis two men each with two first names.  They poured in 32 and 26 points respectively and teammate Kenny Bonaparte was close behind with 18 markers. These 3 guys kept the Mustangs in the game despite the fireworks of the Knights double J's. There were 196 points scored in this game  and these 5 guys accounted for 153 of them. The Geneseo pair took 42 of their teams 64 shots from the field. The Moville trio took 63 of the Mustangs 81 field goal attempts.

The heroics of Geneseo's John and Justin were overpowering the trio of Mustangs and the Knights built their lead from 12 to 14 to a high of 17 points on several occasions in the first half.  When John Decker stole the ball and fed Jordi Menkhorst for a dunk the Knights went in front by a 36-19 score with 9:09 left in the half.

The Mustangs refused to fold and cut the lead to 12 with 4:23 left. The Moville 3 all scored in succession and then they each scored again and suddenly the score was 44-40 as the Mustangs put together a 19-6 run and get right back into the game. Jack Manke hit a pair of free throws for the Knights but Ward made a 3 point jumper and the teams went to the break with Geneseo up 46-43.

A 9-2 spurt to start the 2nd half put the Mustangs in front for the first time all night at 52-48 but 8 points from Justin and 3 points from John put the Knights back in front 59-56. Several ties ad lead changes wold take place over the next 4 minutes until a 3 pointer by the Knights' Kevin Crockett and a jumper by Geneseo's Tommy Eastman put their team back on top by a 71-66 score with 11:29 to play. The Knights managed to slowly increase that lead to 9 points on a layup by Decker with 6 minutes remaining to make the score  85-76.
Ringen then hit back to back 3 pointers and the lead was once again in double figures at 91-78. Those bombs would prove to be the difference makers as the Mustangs could only foul and hope for the best but the Knights didn't miss from the stripe down the stretch to record the 10 point win.

Geneseo improves to 3-1 and is off until December 2nd when they start conference play by hosting New Paltz for a 5:30 PM contest.

Remember it's the men's teams who will play the early games this year for all the SUNYAC contests.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2016, 04:05:42 AM
Fredonia defeats D'Youville 88-62

The Blue Devils evened their record at 2-2  cruising past the Spartans behind a strong first half where they doubled up the visitors 52-24. Coach Seymore got his 2nd and 3rd stringers into the game early and coasted to the 26 point win.

Ian Helps led the charge with 16 points. Richard De La Cruz and Kareem Brown each had 14 points. The trio had 4, 5,and 6 rebounds respectively.

Tommy Banks came off the bench to lead the club with 10 rebounds. He added 6 points, 4 blocks and 1 assist in 18 minutes of playing time. Nick Johnson also had 18 minutes on the court and scored 12 points while grabbing 6 boards. De'Quan Smith had 7 points, a pair of steals and 1 rebound in 9 minutes of court time.

Fredonia is back in action on November 30th at 7:00 PM when they travel to Medaille. The last time they beat the Mavericks was on December 11th, 2008, almost 8 years ago and have lost the only 2 contests they've played since then which have been the last two seasons. Could be time for a little revenge. If the Blue Devils hold out any hope of finishing the non-conference portion of their schedule with a winning record they will need a win next Wednesday night.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 23, 2016, 11:13:08 AM
Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving
Enjoy


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 03:57:58 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 23, 2016, 11:13:08 AM
Wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving
Enjoy

Same to you and yours All Time! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on November 23, 2016, 04:25:20 PM
More of a lurker to this board...but Happy Thanksgiving to all of the readers/posters here!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2016, 04:37:45 PM
Nov. 23   Just a single game on tap for today 

Brockport  at   SUNY-Old Westbury      4:00 PM

The Golden Eagles looking for a sweep of their two game sojourn into the Long Island area. Old Westbury hasn't come close to a win in their 2 games,  losing to Stockton by 19 and Baruch by 26. I think Port is as good as those teams. The oddsmakers have favored Brockport by 10 points in a low scoring game. I think the Golden eagles will win by more than that. Brockport 75 Old Westbury 59. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: AllStar on November 23, 2016, 04:25:20 PM
More of a lurker to this board...but Happy Thanksgiving to all of the readers/posters here!

AllStar,
You can lurk here anytime you want. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

Happy Thanksgiving to all the regulars that are on this board. Eat lots of turkey, stuff yourself, remember, that turkey sacrificed himself just so you could. Don't let him down. :D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:08:20 PM
Brockport (3-0) losing to Old Westbury (0-2) 38-31 with 15 mins left in game!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:12:04 PM
43 -35 Old Westbury up with 13 mins left. (slow day at work folks!!)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:26:11 PM
Not sure what Old Westbury is doing today or what St Joes did yesterday, but Cliff Lyerly is having 2 sub par (IMHO) games . Yesterday, vs St. Joes, he went 5 of 10 for 10 pts in 27 mins. So far today he is 2 of 8 for 6 points in 23 mins. Over the weekend he went a combined 20 of 39 ( 11/21 vs Hampden and 9/18 vs case western) for 54 pts vs Hampden Sydney and Case Western reserve. Those aren't "Lyerly" type numbers. Hope the kid is ok! Eagles are gonna need him to finish strong if they plan on pulling this one out! 45- 37 Old w with 12 mins left!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:28:35 PM
Live stats has been stuck at 12:08 now for 10 mins! >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:36:28 PM
Lyerly must have read my posts. Scoring has doubled since 12 mins left in the game. Has 14 pts now and Eagles are down by 4 with 6 mins left!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
Live stats is completely dead now, and its time to go home!  Nothing new to report. Im betting that B Port comes back and wins on a Lyerly 3!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
Live stats is completely dead now, and its time to go home!  Nothing new to report. Im betting that B Port comes back and wins on a Lyerly 3!

"Brockport comes back and wins ".  Lyerly hits a game tie er with 2 seconds left in reg. Sending game into overtime.  B port wins in by 3 85-82. I'll let others do the analysis.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on November 24, 2016, 01:30:02 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
Live stats is completely dead now, and its time to go home!  Nothing new to report. Im betting that B Port comes back and wins on a Lyerly 3!

"Brockport comes back and wins ".  Lyerly hits a game tie er with 2 seconds left in reg. Sending game into overtime.  B port wins in by 3 85-82. I'll let others do the analysis.

Why didn't Lyerly listen to you and win it in regulation with a 3 instead of tying with a 2? ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2016, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: ronk on November 24, 2016, 01:30:02 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 23, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
Live stats is completely dead now, and its time to go home!  Nothing new to report. Im betting that B Port comes back and wins on a Lyerly 3!

"Brockport comes back and wins ".  Lyerly hits a game tie er with 2 seconds left in reg. Sending game into overtime.  B port wins in by 3 85-82. I'll let others do the analysis.

Why didn't Lyerly listen to you and win it in regulation with a 3 instead of tying with a 2? ::)

Damn good question Ronk. I'm gonna ask him in jan 10 when they come to town! Heck had he made that then I would have retired from by brief prediction career!  Gonna have to check my crystal ball around jan 8th/9th to make sure theres no such game ender at the Sports Arena nor 4 days later at B Port!  Enjoy the big come from behind win and Thanksgiving too!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2016, 11:08:46 PM
Brockport 85 Old Westbury 82 in Overtime

This win by the Golden Eagles is more than just a win in overtime. It has to be one of the greatest comebacks that this group of Brockport players has ever been involved in.

Down by 13 points at 67-54 with 1:55 left in the game, the Golden Eagles put on a 2 minute drill that was better than an NFL team's final drive.

The comeback started with freshman Malick Sylla knocking down two 3 pointers, 20 seconds apart, with Old Westbury missing a dunk in between those 2 bombs. In the next 15 seconds the Panthers turned the ball over thanks to a David Clark steal. Brockport's Dan Dwayne then missed a 3 point attempt, but Clark was there to grab the rebound and bury a 2 point jumper. With 1:14 left to play the Eagles had narrowed the gap to 5 points.

The Panthers tried to use some clock but Dwayne stole the ball and was fouled with 55 seconds left. He sunk both free throws and on the inbounds pass the Panthers turned it over again. Marcus Blythers scored inside 6 seconds later and with 48 seconds remaining the score was 67-66 and the Eagles had scored 12 points in 67 seconds. Blythers was fouled on his layup but missed the tying free throw, however the Eagles got the offensive rebound. Brockport worked the ball looking for the go ahead score but their shot was blocked with 27 seconds to go in regulation. Old Westbury was fouled and made both foul shots to go up by 3 at 69-66. Port took a time out and missed a shot forcing them to foul with 5 seconds left in the game. The Panthers made 1 of 2 but that made it a 2 possession game and it looked to be the clincher. Clifton Lyerly scored in a hurry making it 70-68 with 2 seconds left. The Panthers turned it over with no time elapsing (5 second violation?) and the Eagles called a timeout. Brockport's Abdoulaye Sow attempted a 3 pointer that was off the mark but Lyerly grabbed the rebound and put in a buzzer beating jumper to tie the game and send it to overtime.

In the extra session the Eagles quickly went in front by 4 points on a Lyerly jumper and a layup by Devonn Gavin. After the Panthers scored, 2 free throws by Gavin restored the 2 possession edge and another Lyerly jumper made the score 78-72 with 1:32 remaining. The Panthers went to the line, made 1 of 2 and then the Eagles Matt Smith was fouled and swished them both to make it a 3 possession game with 1:21 to go. Lyerly followed with another score after a missed 3 pointer by the Panthers and the Eagles had a 9 point lead with a minute left to play. The shoe was now on the other foot. It was Old Westbury's turn to mount a comeback and the Panthers did their best to follow the Golden Eagles earlier act. They cut the lead to a single point as they scored 8 unanswered markers in 27 seconds thanks to 3 Brockport turnovers. (Check and see if Coach Dunne is bald the next time you spot him, he may have pulled all his hair out :D)  The teams then traded trips to the stripe, each making 1 of 2. Needing to foul, the Panthers sent Matt Smith to the line and he made                them both to extend the lead to 85-82. The Panthers missed a game tying 3 pointer with 4 seconds left and Brockport escaped with a most improbable victory.

Clifton Lyerly led the Eagles with 25 points (10x17 fg, 2x2 3's, 3x8 ft) and 6 rebounds. Devonn Gavin was the only other Brockport player in double figures with 10 points off the bench. Cordell Torres had 8 points and 7 rebounds.  Marcus Blythers was close behind with 7 points, 7 boards, 2 steals, and 2 blocks. Matt Smith had 8 points, 5 assists, and 2 rebounds while Dan Dwyane had 5 points and 4 steals in 13 minutes of court time. Justin Summers had 8 points and 4 rebounds in 17 minutes of play off the bench. David Clark had 6 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals in just 13 minutes on the floor. Malick Sylla scored 7 points in 12 minutes and those 2 big 3 pointers near the end of regulation were huge.

It looks like Brockport's 2nd leading scorer Hamed Shamseldin, left the game midway through the first half and didn't return, I'm guessing an injury of some kind but hope it's not serious.

Brockport improves to 4-0 and will be off until December 2nd when they open SUNYAC play and play their initial game in front of their home fans. They will host the Red Dragons from Oneonta State at 5:30 PM. The New Paltz Hawks come to town on Saturday at 2:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 03:53:34 PM
Nov. 26 Only one game on tap today for the SUNYAC.
   
Oswego State  vs  Colby        7:00 PM    Hamilton Tournament @ Clinton, N.Y.

The Lakers will be in for a battle here as they take on a team from the NESCAC conference. If they don't get their act together they will be getting the proverbial swift kick in the butt from the White Mules. Beating Clarkson in overtime and losing to Nazareth weren't the results I expected from this Laker team. Win or lose, Oswego could face another NESCAC team...host Hamilton and former coach Adam Stockwell. Or they could play the team they beat in overtime on Tuesday night...the Clarkson Golden Knights.

Colby comes into this game with an undefeated 3-0 record. They haven't beaten anyone of note but have managed to win against teams they should. The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 2 point favorite and I see a close game here as well. Oswego wins a tough one by a 76-73 final score.     

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 07:32:58 PM
I'm watching the Oswego State-Colby game and I brought up the live stats. Craziest thing I ever seen. They are showing Oswego's lineup with at least 5 players from Colby on the Lakers. Then they are showing Colby's lineup with at least 4 players from Oswego on the White Mules' lineup. That's about as bad a screwup as I've ever seen. Still trying to figure out how the guy doing live stats could mess things up that badly.

Funniest thing is Laker players Tyler Pierre and Ian Schupp are listed as members of both teams. Schupp has scored 2 points for Oswego but has managed to score 3 pointsfor Colby. ???  And Pierre is scoreless for Oswego but committed 2 fouls, yet he has made 2 points, grabbed 3 rebounds and only has 1 foul for Colby.  :o Truly mind boggling.

The good news is the Lakers are winning 20-13 with 8 minutes to go in the half.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 07:53:18 PM
Oswego up 31-23 at the break. Only God knows who scored what, for which team.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 07:56:46 PM
According to the announcers from Northeast Sports the broadcasters of the Laker-Colby game, the following are the halftime scoring leaders.

Brian Sortino has 13 points for the Lakers. Ian Schupp has 6 points and Mykelle Krecko also has 6 points. Krecko leads everyone with 7 rebounds.

Sean Gilmore leads the White Mules with 9 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 08:04:10 PM
Hamilton defeated Clarkson in the opening game of the tournament  by a 96-92 final score.

Oswego will play Hamilton on the Championship game tomorrow afternoon at 3:00 PM if they win today.

If the Lakers lose to Colby then they will face off against Clarkson for the 2nd time in 5 days in the consolation game on Sunday at 1:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 08:24:13 PM
Hey whaddayouknow about halfway through the 2nd half they finally got the lineups straightened out.

Lakers have blown a 10 point lead and now trail by a 49-47 margin with 8:53 left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 08:34:55 PM
Oswego regains a 7 point lead at 56-49 with 6:05 left in the game.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 08:36:16 PM
Colby closes the gap to 61-58 with 3 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2016, 09:17:14 PM
Big 3 pointer by Ian Schupp to make it a 6 point Oswego lead. Cobly misses, Krecko rebounds but the Lakers misfire and Colby comes down and scores to cut the lead to 4.

Oswego misses again and the White Mules go to the line at the other end and cut the lead to 2 points at 64-62.

Lakers come down and Sortino is fouled. He makes 1 of 2 with 44 seconds left to play.

With 34 seconds to go Ian Schupp fouls a Colby player and Oswego takes a time out.

Colby makes 1 of 2 and then steals the ball on the inbound pass. Colby player misses a layup after the steal...choke... and then Krecko is fouled when he grabs the rebound.

Krecko makes 1 of 2 to make the score 66-63.

Colby comes down and attempts a 3 pointer for the tie with 8 seconds to go and it's off target and goes out of bounds off the rim. Oswego ball and the Lakers take another time out.

Inbounds pass goes to Ian Schupp who is fouled with 6.8 seconds remaining. One made free throw should close the door on Colby. Schupp misses the first and the Lakers call a time out.  Now the White Mules try to ice Schupp as they call a time out.

Schupps' shot hits the rim and gets the friendly bounce and the Lakers have a 4 point lead.

Colby comes down and throws up a 3 pointer that is way off the mark and this one is over.

Final score 67-63

Brian Sortino  was the game's high scorer with 21 points. He also has 6 assists and 4 rebounds.

Mykelle Krecko had a double-double of 11 points and  a game high 11 rebounds. He also had 3 blocks.

Ian Schupp and Jamir Ferebee both had 12 points. Schupp had 2 assists, a rebound and a steal.  Ferebee added 4 rebounds.

Keith Tyson had 6 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks.

I had the Lakers winning this one 76-73. They just inverted my 76 to get to 67. I saw the right numbers in my crystal ball just had them a bit mixed up. I had them winning by 3 points and they won by 4.

Good win for the YAC anytime we beat a NESCAC team.

Now Oswego (4-1) has a chance to take down another NESCAC team tomorrow as the Lakers try and spoil Hamilton's (and Adam Stockwell's 3 team party) by beating the Continentals (3-1) for their Championship on their home court. Game time is 3:00 PM

I'm going to go on record here and predict an Oswego State victory by a final score of Oswego 75 Hamilton 71.     Go Lakers

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 27, 2016, 11:59:16 AM
Since the Amherst's basketball teams are off this weekend, I have been looking around at other CAC teams playing their OOC games.  Thanks for the Colby "play by play" Magicman :)
Both Colby and Hamilton are "rebuilding" teams wrt to Nescac observers and are not expected to be challengers for the title.  Who really knows...though there is talent on both teams.  Will try to catch part of the Hamilton game today.   One thing for sure...the Continentals can score points. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2016, 04:00:25 PM
Oswego State leads Hamilton at the break by a 45-37 score.

Back and forth in the early part of the period until Oswego trailing 19-16 at the 12:41 mark, went on a 14-4 run to open up a 30-23 advantage. Hamilton clawed back to tie it at 33 with 5 minutes to go, but the Lakers ended the half on another 12-4 burst.

Oswego's preseason All American, Brian Sortino with 12 points leads all scorers. Ian Schupp wth 11 and 6'10" Mykelle Krecko with 9 points and 4 rebounds.

Peter Hoffman with 9 and Michael Grassey with 8 were high men for Hamilton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2016, 04:05:46 PM
Hamilton has come back to take the lead against the Lakers on a 3 pointer to go up 52-51, with 12:39 to go.

Now with 9:54 to go Hamilton still clinging to a 1 point 56-55 lead.

Hamilton opens up their largest lead of the game at 62-55 on back to back 3 pointers by Michael Grassey with 7:52 left in the game.

Oswego now down by 10 points at 70-60 with 3:35 remaining minutes to go.

Oswego cuts the lead to 5 points but now are not looking good as they miss on two straight trips down the floor and Hamilton builds the lead back to 9.

The Lakers not playing well in crunch time and Hamilton comes away with the win, 78-70.

Brian Sortino leads all scorers with 26 points, 6 assists and 4 rebounds.

Ian Schupp has 18 points and Mykelle Krecko has 10.

Oswego falls to 4-2 and will be back in action on Saturday December 3rd when they host Cortland at 2:00 PM. to open SUNYAC play.

Hamilton's Peter Hoffman was the MVP of the tournament and finished with 22 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists.

Michael Grassey had 18 points and 5 rebounds for the Continentals.

Jack Dwyer finished with a double-double of 15 points and 10 assists. He also had 6 rebounds.

The Continentals improve to 4-1 as Coach Adam Stockwell gains some bragging rights by defeating the two schools he previously coached, before his move to Hamilton.

Hamilton will be off until Saturday December 3rd when they travel to St. David's, Pennslyvania to take on the Eastern University Eagles at 3:00 PM.

 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2016, 01:07:43 AM
USUNYAC (Unofficial State University of New York Athletic Conference) Team of the week (week of Nov 21 - 27)!
Brian Sortino - Oswego - (3 games) - 18.33 PPG
Justin Ringen - Geneseo - (1 game) 36 PPG
John Decker - Geneseo - (1 game) 41 PPG and 9 RPG
Mikey McElroy - Oneonta - (1 game)  26 PPG and 6 RPG
Justin Cooper - Cortland - (1 game) 19 PPG and 9 RPG
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
Congrats to John Decker. Not only did he make the uSUNYAC team of the week but today he also made SUNYAC player of the week!  Well deserved!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
Congrats to John Decker. Not only did he make the uSUNYAC team of the week but today he also made SUNYAC player of the week!  Well deserved!

He also made the D3hoops Team of the Week. Here's what the SUNYAC and D3hoops write up had to say:

John Decker
Decker scored a career-high 41 points, including 6-of-12 3-pointers and 9-of-10 free throws, in the Knights' 103-93 victory at Morrisville, Tuesday. The 41 points tied for the third-highest individual single-game total in program history and was the most points scored by a Knight in 21 seasons.

Here's the link to the D3hoops TOTW: http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2016-17/week1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 01:25:08 PM
The first regular season D3hoops Top 25 poll was released yesterday evening.

The only East Region team to make the rankings was Rochester at #18. The Yellowjackets are 6-0 and have wins over Ithaca and Hobart so far. They went from 18 points in the Others Receiving Votes category to 168 points this week, a gain of 150 points

Skidmore with 24 points drops from last week's 28th position and point total of 60, as they lose 36 points. Their fall from the unbeaten ranks with a loss to Ithaca puts them in the 37th position in the ORV category.

Plattsburgh State, on the strength of three opening week victories, picks up 10 points to lead the SUNYAC schools at the present time, as they are slotted in 45th place.

St John Fisher is the only other East Region school to get a mention as these Cardinals get a single point.

Oswego State with two losses drops all of their 74 points from the preseason poll and gets no mention this week.

Geneseo State loses the single point they received earlier.

Brockport State and Buffalo State received no mention but are both undefeated and if they continue to do so this coming week they may get a mention in next week's poll.

Plattsburgh and Buff State square off on Friday in Buffalo. The winner of that game (if they stay clean in their other games) should make next week's poll in the ORV category.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 29, 2016, 02:11:02 PM
5 games on tap tonight

Ithaca over Cortland
Buffalo State over Alfred
Springfield over New Paltz
Oneonta over Hartwick
Plattsburgh over St. Lawrence

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 02:32:11 PM
Nov. 29 Five gameson tap today as the YAC gets back in action after the holiday recess.


Ithaca  at   Cortland        5:30 PM

Big game today in central NY as these two rivals go at each other once again. The Red Dragons won the Cortaca Jug in football this year, can they do the same in hoops as well? Oddsmakers have made Cortland a 6 point favorite but I'm not so sure they should be. Cortland went 1-1 at the Cortaca Classic earlier this month while Ithaca went 2-0 against the same two schools. Ithaca also just handed favored Skidmore a loss in their most recent game. I'm picking Cortland here, but I won't be surprised if the Bombers win this game. Final score Cortland 87 Ithaca 84.

Buffalo State  at  Alfred        7:00 PM

The Bengals will have too much firepower for the Saxons as they invade Happy Valley. The point spread favors Buff State by 7 but I think they win by more. Final score Bengals 94 Alfred 82.

   
New Paltz State  at  Springfield        7:00 PM

The Hawks desperately in search of a win. I don't think they find it here. The Pride isn't as good as years past but should get by the Hawks tonight. They are favored by 10 points and that looks to be about right. Springfield wins 83-72.


Hartwick  at  SUNY Oneonta        8:00 PM

Local rivals go at it again in their annual battle. Based on the results against 2 common opponents in the Holiday Inn Classic at Hartwick to open the season this game appears to be a tossup. The oddsmakers have favored the Red Dragons by a slim 4 point margin. Last year Oneonta won 17 and got a huge 32 point effort from Lawrence Coleman. He might just be the edge needed today as well. I don't think Mikey McElroy will have another 12 minute, 5 point game like last year either. Hartwick has won 7 of the past 10 games but the Red Dragons looking to start a streak of their own. Oneonta 85 Hartwick 82

     
Plattsburgh State        St. Lawrence        8:00 PM

Cardinals will be missing several key players in tonight's contest against St. Lawrence. The oddsmakers have made them a slim 4 point favorite not knowing that information. Plattsburgh has owned the Saints in recent years as they have won the last 7 games and are 8-2 in the last 10 meetings. Last year the Cardinals won by a 77-65 score in Plattsburgh and SLU returns almost all of that team. Cards lost a lot, but have reloaded quite well. I think Plattsburgh will still prevail in tonight's contest even without one of their starters and top bench players. Final score will be Plattsburgh 84 St.Lawrence 75.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on November 29, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
magicman:

I always like reading your predictions and analysis.  You're crystal ball is always very good...it's missed on the LEC pick 'em board though.   ;D

Since Keene State played both Oneonta and Hartwick, that game is somewhat interesting to me.  I've hardly ever seen Oneonta play, but I'm sure their new coach and former Plattsburgh assistant will go a great job...he clearly did as a helper with the Cardinals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 06:02:39 PM
Thanks AllStar for the kind words. I would have done the LEC pickems if it was just the games. Not a fan of all the bonus stuff. But that's just me. I do check in to see how you guys are doing. If I was doing the pickems I believe I would currently be in first place though ;D

Part of my picking Oneonta in today's game is they played a bit better against your Owls than Hartwick did. I hope they can pull out the win this evening.

Good luck in the LEC pickems.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 06:05:16 PM
Cortland all over Ithaca in the big rivalry game as they more than double up the Bombers by a 50-23 halftime score. I'll let jdex do the summaries for the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 29, 2016, 06:09:54 PM
Cortland finally finds an offense ..........shoots 50 percent from the field and 8x17 beyond the arc. J. Morales with 19 points (5x6 3s), M. Kelly 10, but many hands contributing to the big attack. J. Cooper 9 pts (4x5fg). Ithaca's M. Chasin (2x10fg, 1x7 3s) with just five points and Bombers' offense struggling against RDragons' zone at 32fg percent.  Will say this, appears as Chasin goes, so go the Ithacans ....

Mere 10 fouls assessed, four on Corts ....

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 29, 2016, 06:09:54 PM
  Will say this, appears as Chasin goes, so go the Ithacans ....

Surprised at how little playing time Joey Flanagan is getting this year for the Bombers. Last year he was the 2nd leading scorer on the team with 15.0 ppg. 2nd in steals with 40. Led the team in 3 point fg percentage (42.6%) and free throw percentage (83.7%).  He started 16 of 27 games last year and averaged 27 minutes per game, scoring in double figures 18 times. This year he hasn't started at all and is only getting 11 minutes a game. he's averaging 6.3 ppg. Maybe he's coming off an injury that I don't know about. ??? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 06:54:17 PM
Cortland wrapping this one up as they lead 97-61 with 3 minutes to go. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 07:53:04 PM
Buffalo State leads Alfred U at the half by a 40-27 score.

Live stats not working so no halftime totals to post.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 07:58:10 PM
Springfield leads New Paltz State by a 29-26 score at the break.

Nick Paquette with 6 points and Andrew Seniuk with 5 to lead the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 08:00:14 PM
New Paltz opens the 2nd half with a 13-3 run to go in front of Springfield 39-32
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 08:11:19 PM
Buffalo State was up by 22 points but their lead has shrunk to 62-48 with 13 minutes left to play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 08:14:46 PM
Bengals now up 75-52 with 9:00 left to play.
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2016, 08:42:36 PM
Buffalo State wins over Alfred U by a final score of 94-77.

I had the Bengals winning by a 94-82 margin and would have been closer if Alfred hadn't went into a scoring drought for much of the final 2:30 of the game. Hit the Bengals score right on though. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 30, 2016, 08:12:38 AM

Cortland and Plattsburgh both surprised last night, for different reasons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 30, 2016, 09:37:20 AM
St. Lawrence 91, Plattsburgh 73 ..... Saints fly to 54-35 intermission command and wind up hitting 49% from the floor (14x38 3s) to Cards' 35%. Soph J. Patron once more at the head of Burgh point parade with 27 (12x21) plus 9 rebs over 34'. No teammates in double figures. I. Howard with 12 caroms. Without starter Z. Coleman and reserve E. Mack. Cards 3-1, SL 4-1 and home to angry IC on Friday

Hartwick 85, Oneonta 83 ........Tied at 81 at 2:58. J. Lufkin trey at 1:20 gives Wick advantage. OSt's M. McElroy rebound and layup at 1:05 within 84-83. RDragons get four more FG attempts in stretch run. Hartwick with six players scoring double figures. Oneonta 1-3, Wick 4-2

New Paltz 64, Springfield 63  ..... Hawks spoil S'field home opener on A. Seniuk jumper in the paint at 2.2 seconds. Trail 63-62 at 1:42. Seniuk caps team leading 19 pt performance to help offset  fr foe J. Ross 23 pts(10x13fg) 10 rebs, 4 assts. NP at 37fg percent, Springfield 49 percent. Hosts with 40-29 board bulge. NP 11 t'overs to S'field 19.  NP 1-4, Springfield 2-3

Buffalo St. 94, Alfred 77 ....  paced by L. Smith 22 pts (10x17fg) in 36'; N. McLean 20 pts, 11 assts in 36'; J. Chateau off the bench for 10 pts, high 8 rebs in 23'. Bengals 41x77fg and mere 7 turnovers. Alfred's T. Seelman 30 pts(11x16fg, 6x10 3s). Saxons 10x25 3s. Buffs 4-0 and upcoming test vs. Pburghers. Alfs 3-3

Didn't see this one coming ......Cortland 103, Ithaca 65. RDragons sink 9x15 shots out of the gate and show little letup in stretching their record to 3-1. Still, Bombers had been much the better outfit in earlier outings. Overmatched in this one! Thirteen Cortlands in the scoring column with 50 and 53 point halves. Fire at 39x72 clip from the field, 16x34 in 3s. Just eight turnovers. J. Morales with 22 pts(8x15fg, 6x9 3s), 8 assts; J. Cooper 17 pts(8x10fg) 13 rebs; M. Kelly 13 pts; N. Bonura 14 pts(4x6 3s). IC 25x69fg, 7x33 3s, 17 turnovers. P. Ezema 22 pts(10x15fg) 12 rebs; M. Flood 12 pts; M. Chasin 7 pts(3x15fg, 1x9 3s) 5 rebs, 4 assts.  Bombers 3-2. Cortland at Oswego Saturday afternoon for conference opener in rematch of last season's tourney final. At New Paltz next Tuesday

Fredonia with Wednesday trip to Medaille
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2016, 01:31:06 PM
  Whew... Glad that 1 is over. Happy valley was rather electric last night, especially with them hosting a quarterfinal game in the div 3 football championships this Saturday!  My BENGALS prevailed in a game that, to be honest, I thought would not be as close as it was. After holding the Saxons to just 27 points in the first half, they (BENGALS) got involved a track meet that they could have avoided (104 points scored in 2nd half). With less than 4 mins gone in the 2nd half, my BENGALS were up by 24 pts (53-29), and I'm thinking that everyone on the team is gonna get in this game, which could help our starters come friday night!  Give Alfred credit. They made a complete 5 man substitution at the 17 min mark and after a couple more BENGAL baskets, these Saxons fought back.  With a little more than 8 mins left my BENGALS were up again by 25 and the Saxons fought back again. Give Alfred credit, there was no quit in these kids. part of that has got be because the head coach of Alfred, used to play at Cortland! Plus Alfred's top assistant this year is 2016 All Sunyac, and former Cortland star, Blair Esterfaa. I expect these boys to be very competitive in the E8 this year...very competitive!

  Leading the way was Lovell Smith with 23 pts and 2 assists. Nico McLean chipped in 20 pts however this fan was most impressed with his 11 assists! Mike Henry continued his ironman performance like season with 17 points and 7 rebounds. Both Jordans also chipped in. Jordan Chateau chipped in with 10 pts and 8 boards and Jordan Glover chipped in 9 pts, 7 rebounds and 5 assists ( I'm predicting that Glover will get a triple-double before years end...just saying  :)). Surprisingly Zach Ciezki, came off the bench and provided  1 helluva spark to the BUff State attack. His stat line of 8 points, 4 rebounds and 2 steals, really doesn't show the impact that he had on yesterdays game. Im expecting big things from this freshman after seeing him come in for Mike Henry (foul trouble) yesterday, and kept the BENGAL train running on all cylinders!

   Now the real season starts. Since no one qualifies for post season play based on a 4-0 non conference record, this Friday marks the beginning of SUNYAC play! And the SUNYAC schedulers have put, IMHO,  the toughest of 'Yac opponents on the BENGALS conference opening schedule ...the Plattsburgh Cards. Leon Moise is the only current BENGAL, who has ever been on the court when Buff State has beaten the Cards (Jan 25th 2013). Since then its been 0 - 7 for my beloved BENGALS ( and  I had a damn good seat for all of the those losses  >:( )! By any measure , I think that most SUNYAC observers would say that Plattsburgh is the ultimate measuring stick within this conference. If you can't beat them, then you aint going too far! Plain and simple.  :-[ Their 3 NCAA appearances in the past 4 years says it all. Only Oswego and Cortland can boast of 2 out of the past 4 NCAA tourneys appearances,  and the rest of the conference can boast 1, or 0,  NCAA post season appearances, in the past 4 seasons. Clearly Plattsburgh is the cream of the crop in the 'Yac (and the East region) and Buff State starts out Conference play with the toughest of opponents.

  My original plans had me in Akron Ohio this Friday, however cousin Andrea will understand why I'm gonna have to pass on that visit. I want to get a good seat for this game Friday and see what my BENGALS are really made of! Im hoping that Friday is gonna be special. I can't wait!! ;)

go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 30, 2016, 02:04:53 PM
The Bengals are the team to beat in the SUNYAC this season.
With all the talent they have back they should win the SUNYAC.

The SUNYAC starts this weekend. It should be a dig fight all season.
Can't wait for the Fun to begin.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2016, 03:24:18 PM
Tried to post some results right after I posted the final score of the Buffalo State game last night but couldn't pull up the D3hoops boards. The boards I had open went to a "cannot connect at this time mode" and when I tried opening a new page I got the same message. Kept trying until quite late and then fell asleep.

I see jdex and Bengalsrule posted some summaries, now I don't have to...except for a few comments I'll have about the Plattsburgh State contest.

I'm assuming that others had the same problem I did with accessing D3hoops. In checking on other boards no one made any comments last night after 9 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2016, 03:34:13 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 30, 2016, 02:04:53 PM
The Bengals are the team to beat in the SUNYAC this season.
With all the talent they have back they should win the SUNYAC.

The SUNYAC starts this weekend. It should be a dig fight all season.
Can't wait for the Fun to begin.



All Time,
This was my quote from 7 months ago at the end of last season:


Quote from: magicman on April 29, 2016, 05:00:50 PM
Next year will find another extremely competitive conference race. I think Cortland and Plattsburgh have the nucleus for another decent season. Oswego lost a lot of talent but with Brian Sortino and Mykelle Krecko back they have possibilities. Geneseo only lost 2 players and with Justin Ringen and John Decker returning, they will be in the playoffs.   Brockport should be solid again as well, with 5 of their top 6 scorers back. Fredonia will look to move up the ladder as they should continue to improve.

Everybody could be chasing Buffalo State though as I think they return more talent than anybody. How all that talent comes together on the court will be the question mark, but right now they are the frontrunners, I believe.  Of course after seeing my Cardinals when they come back in the fall I might change my mind.  ;D  I do know we'll have one or two surprises to unveil. 8-     

So far so good for the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 30, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Magicman
Sorry about that.
I never want to steal your Thunder.
That Crystal ball of yours is amazing.
My mistake, it will never happen again.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on November 30, 2016, 04:28:28 PM
Gentlemen! As the YAC' kicks off this weekend let me be the first to say good luck to all! You will come to find that I am not so supportive of other teams around the conference, and am a firm believer that a little trash talk never hurt nobody 😉 It's all in good fun! Boy oh boy, do those bengals look primed for a special run! I am sure I speak for all fellow Bengal fans when I say thank you for your gracious projections and predictions, but the buck stops Friday when Plattsburgh travels to Buffalo for a heavyweight bout. I believe the cards and Johnathon Patron are in for a rude awakening this Friday and won't be able to match the Bengals speed and aggression (the Benagls are also out for revenge, especially on Plattsburgh!) so Magicman I say this, sorry in advance! Buff state wins convincingly this Friday! And to your point about a starter missing the game, Buffalo State played a game without veteran leader and starting gaurd Nico McLean earlier this year on the road and were able to win by 20, next man up no excuses!  catch up with you guys soon!  peace and love.

LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2016, 03:24:18 PM
Tried to post some results right after I posted the final score of the Buffalo State game last night but couldn't pull up the D3hoops boards. The boards I had open went to a "cannot connect at this time mode" and when I tried opening a new page I got the same message. Kept trying until quite late and then fell asleep.

I see jdex and Bengalsrule posted some summaries, now I don't have to...except for a few comments I'll have about the Plattsburgh State contest.

I'm assuming that others had the same problem I did with accessing D3hoops. In checking on other boards no one made any comments last night after 9 PM.

Wish someone had said something. The more often I can report this to our host, the better a chance I have of getting it resolved.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2016, 06:11:11 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2016, 03:24:18 PM
Tried to post some results right after I posted the final score of the Buffalo State game last night but couldn't pull up the D3hoops boards. The boards I had open went to a "cannot connect at this time mode" and when I tried opening a new page I got the same message. Kept trying until quite late and then fell asleep.

I see jdex and Bengalsrule posted some summaries, now I don't have to...except for a few comments I'll have about the Plattsburgh State contest.

I'm assuming that others had the same problem I did with accessing D3hoops. In checking on other boards no one made any comments last night after 9 PM.

Wish someone had said something. The more often I can report this to our host, the better a chance I have of getting it resolved.

I had same problem last night. Couldn't get on the boards from 8:45pm till after midnight ( when I gave up)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2016, 07:36:06 PM
Nov. 30  Just a single game on tap for tonight. 

Fredonia  at  Medaille      7:00 PM

The Blue Devils should be in for a tight game here, on the road, against the Mavericks. Last year they got whipped pretty good by the Mav's as they won in Fredonia by a 95-74 final score. I think that Medaille lost some key players from that win and the Blue Devils returned just about everyone. The point spread favors the Blue Devils by a slim 2 points.  I'll take Fredonia to gain a measure of revenge here, by a 75-68 final score.

Note: I just discovered that it's 7:37 and this game has been going on for a while. The score is 29-29 so I guess the fact that I'm late doesn't really matter.  ;D


   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2016, 11:19:03 PM
Fredonia loses a close one to Medaille 70-67.

The score was tied at 66 with 2:00 to go after Ian Helps scored on a layup. The Mavericks came down and scored inside with 1:43 left to play. Fredonia turned it over, but Helps stole the ball and Fredonia took a time out with 53 ticks remaining. The Blue Devils missed a 3 pointer with 42 seconds left and Medaille missed with 13 seconds left as Helps blocked a layup attempt. Fredonia calls another time out with 9 seconds to go and Helps is fouled with 3 seconds on the clock. He makes the first and misses the second. Fredonia fouls and the Mavericks miss the front end of a 1&1. Helps gets the rebound but a technical foul is called on Fredonia with 2 seconds left. Think the Blue Devil coach may have wanted a foul called on the rebound and may have protested too much, but I'm just guessing.  Mavericks make 2 free throws and a 3 pointer at the buzzer by Fredonia is off the mark.

Tough way to lose a game.

Ian Helps and Richard De La Cruz both scored 16 points to lead the Blue Devils. Kareem Brown added 12 points. Dante Williams had a team high 10 rebounds and came up a basket short of a double-double with 8 points.

The Mavericks had 4 players in double figure led by a game high 21 points from Justice Fagan. Jon Belton had  a team high 6 rebounds to go with his 18 points. Mike Hollenbeck and Kirk Hawkins both had 10 points.

Fredonia drops to 2-3 overall and will host Potsdam State at 5:30 PM on Friday night to start conference play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2016, 11:30:04 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 30, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Magicman
Sorry about that.
I never want to steal your Thunder.
That Crystal ball of yours is amazing.
My mistake, it will never happen again.


All-Time,
No need to apologize, you weren't stealing my thunder. It's not hard to recognize that the Bengals are a talented bunch. They have 6 or 7 guys who can lead the team in scoring on any given night. I was scared of them last year and with all they had coming back doubly scared of them this year. 

I just wanted you to know that we were on the same page. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2016, 11:36:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 30, 2016, 03:24:18 PM
Tried to post some results right after I posted the final score of the Buffalo State game last night but couldn't pull up the D3hoops boards. The boards I had open went to a "cannot connect at this time mode" and when I tried opening a new page I got the same message. Kept trying until quite late and then fell asleep.

I see jdex and Bengalsrule posted some summaries, now I don't have to...except for a few comments I'll have about the Plattsburgh State contest.

I'm assuming that others had the same problem I did with accessing D3hoops. In checking on other boards no one made any comments last night after 9 PM.

Wish someone had said something. The more often I can report this to our host, the better a chance I have of getting it resolved.

Well, as you know, in the past I always used to report many things directly to you. However, I was under the impression that you weren't involved much any more. Should I continue to send emails to you when I discover problems or errors? Or is there someone else I should be addressing when I see something wrong?   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2016, 12:02:48 AM
Quote from: All-Time on November 30, 2016, 02:04:53 PM
The Bengals are the team to beat in the SUNYAC this season.
With all the talent they have back they should win the SUNYAC.

The SUNYAC starts this weekend. It should be a dig fight all season.
Can't wait for the Fun to begin.

All - Time, the BENGAL faithful appreciate the confidence that you and Law Firm have in us this season.I am glad that from what you  have seen so far this season, that you feel that strongly about Buff State.  I hope that come Feb 25th my BENGALS will prove you right. I believe that this league is, at the minimum, a 3 bid league (as the SUNYAC was last year).  Many of the integral players from Oswego ( who made it to the Sweet 16 and were 2 pts from making it Elite 8), Cortland (who got robbed with phantom foul call with less than 5 seconds left vs Amherst, the current #1 ranked team in D3, and lost by 1 pt in 2nd round last year) and Plattsburgh ( who lost their all SUNYAC player & 1 man wrecking crew - Jon Patron to an injury right  before the playoffs, and lost by 3), all NCAA 2016 playoff participants, have returned this year!

This league is loaded! Heck if we played each other just once a year,  like some other conference(s) do and then filled in the rest of the schedule with cupcake wins then the SUNYAC could easily put 4/5 teams in the dance (IMHO). Instead we beat the hell out of each other and in the 'Yac, (and in the words of Jerry Butler...) "Only the strong survive". I believe that the Law Firm put it best..."the buck stops here when Plattsburgh travels to Buffalo"! If ever there was a true measuring stick  for how far the BENGALS have come, then this Friday, that measuring stick comes to town, wearing black and red!

I hope that my beloved BENGALS will continue to earn the respect of those who feel so strongly about their championship abilities! If you stick around this game long enough then you know that everyone experiences the highs and lows that come with the "Game" ! I'm praying for the highest of basketball highs this season.

All time if you,  or Law Firm, are ever in Buffalo then I sure would like to buy you a beverage! Ive been trying to get the magicman down here for 4/5 years...so I realize that that aint happening (yet!). Although he has a standing offer! ;)


Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2016, 02:30:05 PM
Decker makes D3Hoops team of the week! That would be his 2nd "team of the week" this week (1st one was making the USUNYAC team of the week)

Congrats ..again on another fine award for the Geneseo senior!!

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2016-17/week1






Hope he cools off before Jan 13th!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2016, 03:13:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 29, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
Congrats to John Decker. Not only did he make the uSUNYAC team of the week but today he also made SUNYAC player of the week!  Well deserved!

He also made the D3hoops Team of the Week. Here's what the SUNYAC and D3hoops write up had to say:

John Decker
Decker scored a career-high 41 points, including 6-of-12 3-pointers and 9-of-10 free throws, in the Knights' 103-93 victory at Morrisville, Tuesday. The 41 points tied for the third-highest individual single-game total in program history and was the most points scored by a Knight in 21 seasons.

Here's the link to the D3hoops TOTW: http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2016-17/week1

Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2016, 02:30:05 PM
Decker makes D3Hoops team of the week! That would be his 2nd "team of the week" this week (1st one was making the USUNYAC team of the week)

Congrats ..again on another fine award for the Geneseo senior!!

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2016-17/week1

Hope he cools off before Jan 13th!! ;D

I think that was already posted by someone a few days ago. ;)






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2016, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 01, 2016, 03:13:30 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 29, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 28, 2016, 03:16:21 PM
Congrats to John Decker. Not only did he make the uSUNYAC team of the week but today he also made SUNYAC player of the week!  Well deserved!

He also made the D3hoops Team of the Week. Here's what the SUNYAC and D3hoops write up had to say:

John Decker
Decker scored a career-high 41 points, including 6-of-12 3-pointers and 9-of-10 free throws, in the Knights' 103-93 victory at Morrisville, Tuesday. The 41 points tied for the third-highest individual single-game total in program history and was the most points scored by a Knight in 21 seasons.

Here's the link to the D3hoops TOTW: http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2016-17/week1

Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2016, 02:30:05 PM
Decker makes D3Hoops team of the week! That would be his 2nd "team of the week" this week (1st one was making the USUNYAC team of the week)

Congrats ..again on another fine award for the Geneseo senior!!

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2016-17/week1

Hope he cools off before Jan 13th!! ;D

I think that was already posted by someone a few days ago. ;)

Outstanding!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2016, 01:12:49 AM
It's 1:11 am and I can't stop thinking tomorrow's  ( actually today's) game vs Plattsburgh!  I bet Magicman is up right now too! ;)

Go BENGALS ( late night version).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 07:28:45 AM
St. Lawrence 91 Plattsburgh State 73

This was a game that mirrors the Skidmore and Middlebury games of last season. The Cardinals almost always have a clunker in the non-conference part of their season and this was (hopefully) the one game that fits that category.

St. Lawrence is a decent team that will give Skidmore a battle in the Liberty League this year, but I think the Thoroughbreds are the better team. The Saints have some shooters, though and if they are hot they can make you pay. And that's what they did to the Cardinals on Tuesday night. They shot almost 50% from the field and had 14 made three pointers. That will usually get you a W.

Plattsburgh had a 7-3 lead and that's the only highlight they had. They quickly fell behind 23-14 due to a half dozen 3 pointers from the Saints 9 minutes into the game. Jon Patron did his best one man show, to keep the Cardinals in contact with the Saints, hitting 9 of 14 shots and scoring 19 first half points but another half dozen 3 pointers, over the next 8 minutes by SLU, and the lead grew to 45-26 and the outcome was becoming quite clear. The Saints were 12 x 23 from downtown in the first half and shot 54% overall from the field.

The 2nd half started with another 3 pointer by SLU and then they managed to get loose inside for layups as the Cardinals tried to press and trap to get back into the game. The lead grew to as much as 27 points and the 3 point attempts the Cardinals threw up to cut into the lead were literally useless as they went 0x12 in the 2nd half from long distance. That was on the heels of a 2x13 performance from behind the arc in the first period. Going 2x25 from distance will probably find you on the short end of a lop sided score most of the time.

SLU had 4 players hit double figures led by 19 points from Willie Zachary and 18 from Kyle Kobis. Kobis added 7 rebounds and 7 assists. Ben Crawford had 12 points and 3 rebounds. Riley Naclerio had 10 points, a team high 8 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 blocks. Dom DeRegis had 8 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and a steal.
Kyle Edwards had 9 points and 5 assists.

Plattsburgh's Jon Patron just missed another double-double as he had a game high total of 27 points and 9 rebounds. He also led the Cardinals with 3 assists.

Ian Howard was the leading rebounder for the night with a total of 12 boards, 6 on the offensive end. He also had 7 points. Chris Middleton had 9 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.  Freshman Nick DeAngelis finally got medical clearance to play and saw his first action in a Cardinal uniform. He had 10 minutes of court time and scored the first 4 points of his college career. He also had a pair of assists.

Plattsburgh won the rebounding battle 45-43 and also had less turnovers than the Saints did with 8 to SLU's 12. Quite often winning those 2 stats gives you a win. However, SLU not only dominated the shooting stats, but also had 26 assisted field goals (out of 33) to only 12 for Plattsburgh. Overall St. Lawrence was 33x67 from the field (49.3%), 14x32 from long range (43.8%), and 11x18 from the line (61.1%).  Plattsburgh was just 26x74 from the field (35.1%), a possible program worst, 2x25, from 3 point land (8.0%) and 19x25 from the stripe (76.0%). 

The Cardinals defense of the 3 point line was one of the worst I've seen from a Tom Curle coached team, since Jake Simmons and Buffalo State went 15x25 back in January of 2012. Last year the Cardinals were one of the top teams in the country defending the 3 point line. Clearly there is work that needs to be done in that area and Plattsburgh only has a chance for a single practice before hopping on a bus to make the long trip west to take on the favored Bengals.

Plattsburgh drops their first game and is now 3-1. They will meet Buffalo State on Friday night at 5:30 PM and then travel to Fredonia  to take on the Blue Devils on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM.

The Saints improve to 4-1 and are now 2-0 in the YAC . They have 2 games remaining against conference foes when they take on Brockport and Oswego next month. They are back in action Friday night when they host a team from the Empire 8 conference and future Liberty League member, Ithaca College. The Bombers already own a win over Skidmore, the team that's favored to repeat as Liberty League Champions once again. This one should be an entertaining contest.     
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 02, 2016, 04:40:45 PM
The Maqicman must be on a road trip to Buffalo to watch the Buffalo State vs his beloved Cardinals.
Safe Travels

I have Buffalo State beating Plattsburgh in a tough match up.

Potsdam over Fredonia

Geneseo all over New Paltz

And the game of the night Oneonta gets back on the winning track with a thriller over Brockport

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 05:20:49 PM
Dec. 2 Time to start the real season as 8 teams are in action in tonight's 4 games . All games start at 5:30

New Paltz State   at  Geneseo State        5:30 PM

The Hawks are coming off their first win of the season as they beat Springfield College 64-63 this past Tuesday. Geneseo is 3-1 but has only beat one team with a winning record, Morrisville State, who is 3-2. Morrisville's winning record is against 3 teams that are a combined 2-13.

The Knights have owned New Paltz in the recent decade as they are 9-1 in the last 10 games and 17-3 in the past 10 years. I don't see any reason this trend won't continue. The oddsmakers have made Geneseo a 13 point favorite in this one and that's about right. Final score Geneseo 83 New Paltz 68.


Oneonta State  at  Brockport State        5:30 PM

New  Head Coach Cameron Conover and his Red Dragons face a tough conference opener as they travel west to take on the undefeated Golden Eagles. The teams split the season series last year each winning in the other team's house. The Golden Eagles are 8-2, however, in the past 10 games of the series and are 15-6 over the last 10 years.

Oneonta is 1-3 on the young season but those 3 losses have come against 3 teams that are a combined 13-3 overall. Their last 2 losses were by 2 points to Hartwick on Tuesday night and by an 80-75 score against St. John Fisher the Tuesday before that. With a little luck they could be 3-1. Their other loss was to nationally ranked #13 Keene State by a 104-90 margin.

Brockport will come at the Red Dragons aggressively and in waves as Coach Dunne will employ a 10 to 12 man rotation that all receive double digit minutes on the floor. They won the Case Western reserve championship to open the season and then beat 2 Long Island schools right before Thanksgiving to reach their current 4-0 record. It must be noted that none of the schools have a winning record with an overall combined record of 4-15. And the school with the worst record, 0-5 Old Westbury, is the school that came closest to defeating Brockport as they held a 13 point lead over the Eagles with 1:55 left to play and miraculously allowed Brockport to come all the way back and tie the game up on a pair of field goals from Clifton Lyerly in the final 5 seconds. Yes, that's right, I said a PAIR of field goals in the final 5 seconds. Port then won the game in overtime by going in front by 9 points with a minute left and then holding off a furious rally by Old Westbury, who cut the lead to 1 point with 16 seconds left. So what does all this mean?.... It means anything can happen in tonight's contest.

The point spread is in favor of the home team but only 4 points separates them, according to the oddsmakers. I believe the Golden Eagles have a stronger bench and with the pace of play that Brockport employs, that will prove to be the deciding factor. Oneonta's big 3 of McElroy, Kelly and Coleman can matchup with the Brockport stars but their bench just isn't as deep. Not sure if Brockport will be a bit shorthanded tonight as Hamed Shamseldin their #2 scorer left the last game quite early and didn't return.

I see Brockport winning this game by a final score  of 81-74 as they pull away in the closing minutes.

          
Potsdam State at    Fredonia State        5:30 PM

The Bears at 1-2, are coming off their first win in almost a year and are looking to start a winning streak of 2 games in the same season for the first time in nearly 4 years. They did win 2 games in a row when they won the last game of the 2013-14 season and the first game of  the 2014-15 season. Previous to that they had a 2 game winning streak back in February of 2013 against Oneonta and Geneseo. It should be noted that the Bears played St Lawrence to open the season and hung with the Saints the entire game losing by a final score of 88-84. So they had a much better outcome than Plattsburgh State did against a common opponent.

Fredonia with a 2-3 record has lost to 3 teams that have a combined overall record of 11-5. Their wins have come against teams that are 1-10. I expected the Blue Devils to be considerably better this year as their players have matured, but losing to Medaille the other day was, I felt, a game they should have won.

The Bears have lost 3 in a row to the Blue Devils and are 3-7 in the last 10 games. They are only 5-12 over the past 10 years. The point spread in this game has been set at a 6 point Fredonia edge. I'm rooting for the Bears but I can't pick them on the road. I see the Blue Devils winning a close game by a 71-68 final score.

   
Plattsburgh State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM

That brings us to the featured game of the night and the week as these two rivals meet up for the first time this year. The Bengals are flying high and come into the game undefeated at 4-0. Their best win was against NAIA Villa Maria as they are averaging over 90 points per game and giving up only 74 ppg. They boast 4 double digit scorers and feature a solid 8 man rotation getting double digit minutes. Smith, Henry and McLean are their big three but they have numerous other guys that can hurt you as well. They will be a handful for any team to defense. The best way to win against these guy is to hope that the rims aren't forgiving and they are kept out late, the night before the game.

Plattsburgh has won the last 6 games in this series and 7 of the last 10. The Cardinals lead the series 13-8 over the past 10 years.

Plattsburgh is coming off a disappointing loss to a team they should have beaten. They were short a starter and their 6th man who gets starter minutes, but still had enough talent to win against the Saints. The bad news is that they didn't have much time to get ready for the Bengals since that loss to SLU. A single practice on Wednesday night, then hop on the bus, gus, and off to the Queen City on Thursday afternoon. They will have their starter back but not sure if their other player has been cleared to play this weekend. He will be missed if he can't play as he is a double digit scorer, 2nd leading rebounder, and best shot blocker.
Plattsburgh is also averaging over 90 points per game (93.8) and giving up 83.3 ppg. They have 4 players scoring in double figures and also have a deep rotation of 9 players with double digit minutes on the court.

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a slim 1 point favorite in this game which makes it a tossup. I really think the Cardinals are up against it tonight coming off a bad loss to the Saints and having to face this team so quickly. The Bengals also have more senior leadership than the sophomores and freshman the Cardinals are going to throw at them. 7 of the Cards top 10 rotation are freshman or sophomores and the other 3 are  juniors. But I do have red blood and I drink cherry soda so I can't pick the Bengals even though they look to be the best on paper. I'll take my Cardinals and my lumps if necessary and pick them to win by a final score of 91-88.                
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 06:22:30 PM
Plattsburgh leads Buffalo State 49-43 at the half.

The Cardinals trailed 6-2 early on but took the lead on a 14-0 run to go in front 16-6. It was 6 points from Jon Patron, 4 points from Chris Middleton and 4 points from Ian Howard to fuel the outburst. For the rest of the period the lead fluctuated between 5 and a high of 11 points. Down by 9 the Bengals got a hoop and harm from Lovell Smith with 8 seconds left in the half to cut the lead to 6 at the break.

Jon Patron leads the Cards with 12 points and 8 rebounds at the break. Ian Howard has 8 points and 4 rebounds. Chris Middleton has 6 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a block. Brandon Johnson came off the bench to contribute 8 points and 2 rebounds in 12 minutes. Eric Mack was back in action after missing the St Lawrence game and came off the bench with 8 points and 6 rebounds in just 10 minutes of court time.

Mike Henry leads the Bengals with 12 points and 2 rebounds. Lovell Smith has 9 points and 4 boards. Nico McLean had 8 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists. J.O. Spence came off the bench and scored 7 points in 8 minutes.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 06:35:42 PM
Brockport leads Oneonta early in the 2nd half by a 59-44 score with 7 minutes to go.
Clifton Lyerly with 12 points and Hamed Shamseldin with 11 to lead the Eagles.

Lawrence Coleman with 21 points to lead Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 06:46:35 PM
Geneseo leads New Paltz 66-50 with 11 minutes to go.

Fredonia leads Potsdam 51-39 with 12 minutes to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 06:58:33 PM
Plattsburgh State leads Buff State 77-67 with 5:21 to play

Brockport leads Oneonta 80-67 with 7:18 to go

Geneseo leads New Paltz  85-60 with 6:20 to play

Fredonia up over Potsdam 64-45 with 7:00 to go.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 07:10:20 PM
Brockport defeats Oneonta 93-83
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 07:16:11 PM
Fredonia defeats Potsdam 79-59.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 07:20:12 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats  Buffalo State 87-80.

The last 2 minutes of this game were an eternity and I'm not sure what transpired. I don't think the officials know what transpired either!!  ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 07:30:12 PM
Geneseo defeats New Paltz 95-74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2016, 07:55:10 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2016, 12:02:48 AM

If ever there was a true measuring stick  for how far the BENGALS have come, then this Friday, that measuring stick comes to town, wearing black and red!


"That measuring stick" kicked our  a-s tonight!  Plain and simple. Out rebounded by 20 in a game where I truly felt that we had a chance! Give Plattsburgh and coach Curle thier due! No excuses here!! The Cards were the tougher team tonight. Hope my BENGALS learn from this a-S whupping!

I'm betting they do.

Potsdam tomorrow!

GO BENGALS ( mobile version)!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2016, 10:30:32 PM
Plattsburgh State 87 Buffalo State 80

Another exciting game between these two teams that featured a fast paced contest with great athleticism by both sides.

Plattsburgh trailed 6-2 early on but took the lead on a 14-0 run to go in front 16-6. It was 6 points from Jon Patron, 4 points from Chris Middleton and 4 points from Ian Howard to fuel the outburst. For the rest of the period the lead fluctuated between 5 and a high of 11 points. Down by 9 the Bengals got a hoop and harm from Lovell Smith with 8 seconds left in the half to cut the lead to 6 at the break. (copied this from my halftime post)

The 2nd half continued much like the previous one as the Cardinals would open some daylight on a pair of 3 pointers by Patron and Eli Bryant to go up by double digits at 55-45. The Bengals responded with 8 points from Mike Henry and 7 points from Lovell Smith to outscore Plattsburgh 15-6 and make it 61-60. Jordan Chateau was fouled and made 1 of 2 to knot the score at 61 and the tension was ratcheted up another notch.

Plattsburgh's high flying Eric Mack jammed one home, hit 1 of 2 from the line and scored inside again to sandwich a dunk by Lovell Smith to put the Cardinals back in front by a 66-63 score. The Bengals got a layup from Henry to close within a point but the hero of last year's game in Buffalo, when he calmly dribbled the clock down with Plattsburgh trailing 92-91, and sank a 3 pointer to beat the Bengals 94-92, decided to put on his Superman cape once again. This time Eli Bryant, made another 3 pointer and after both teams missed on a combined 3 possessions, Bryant scored inside off a feed from Patron. The Bengals misfired again and Bryant made them pay with another 3 ball to put the Cardinals back up by 9 points at 74-65 with 7 minutes to go. For me that was the turning point of the game. When big man Isaiah Hill buried a 3 pointer to extend the lead to 12 points a minute later, the hole was too deep for the Bengals to dig out of. Jordan Chateau scored, Smith scored and Henry scored to cut the lead back to 6 points but Bryant was there once again with a jumper to make it a 3 possession game with 3:26 to go. The Bengals got as close as 5 points down the stretch but the Cardinals made enough free throws to come away with the win. The ref's seemed lost at times and there were several long stoppages of play to sort things out. They had Eric Mack at the line taking free throws and after making one and missing one they decided he shoudn't have been given 2 fee throws and so a point was taken off the board. It didn't matter because the Cardinals kept possession due to a technical foul being called and on the inbound pass Mack was fouled again and this time he made 1 of 2 to make it a 6 point lead with 14 seconds remaining. After Brockport came back from 13 points down the other day I wasn't sure any lead was safe. The Bengals missed a 3 pointer on their possession and Eli Bryant was fouled. He made 1 of 2 for the final point of the game.

The Cardinals
Eli Bryant ended up as the Cardinals leading scorer with 19 points (7x12 fg, 4x6 3's, 1x2 ft) and 7 rebounds. His 8 straight points at the 7 minute mark were the main reason the Cardinals can put this game in the win column in my opinion.

Eric Mack is the surprise I was referring to back in April, when I said that the Bengals were the frontrunners to win the conference, but the Cardinals had a surprise or two, that might make me change my mind. Taking over for last year's high flyer, Xavier Thomas, Eric can really get off the ground and his performance tonight was the first of many I'm sure I'll see over the next several years. He missed the St. Lawrence game, as did starting point guard Zack Coleman and it was good to see them both back in the lineup tonight. Eric ended up with a double-double of 18 points (7x13 fg, 0x2 3's, 4x7 ft) and 11 rebounds. It was his 2nd double-double in 4 games as a Cardinal and the 18 points matched his career high at Plattsburgh. He also added 4 blocks and 2 assists in 24 minutes off the bench.

Jon Patron was...well....Jon Patron. When he gets the ball down low he's a hard man to stop. He went inside early for 12 first half points and when the Bengals took that away from Plattsburgh in the 2nd half Patron became a screen setter and a passer, while continuing to get the ball off the boards. He finished with his 3rd double-double in 5 games with 15 points (6x16 fg, 1x3 3's, 2x2 ft) and 13 rebounds. He also added 3 steals and 3 assists. He is now averaging a double-double of 21.3 ppg and 10.2 rpg on the season.

Point guard Zack Coleman, missing on Tuesday night, filled up the stat sheet tonight. He scored 8 points, had 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and a block.

Ian Howard had 8 points, 8 rebounds and 2 assists. Chris Middleton had 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a block. Brandon Johnson had 8 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 16 minutes of court time.


The Bengals
Mike Henry equaled his career high for the Bengals as he tossed in 28 points to lead all scorers (11x16 fg, 2x3 3's. 4x7 ft). He completed a double-double with 11 rebounds, which led the team. It was also his 3rd double-double in 5 games this year. His season averages are now 18.6 ppg and 9.8 rpg.

Lovell Smith had 20 points (9x18 fg, 2x4 ft) and grabbed 5 rebounds.

Nico McLean had 12 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal.

J.O. Spence had 7 points and 3 rebounds in 12 minutes off the bench.

The Cardinals outshot the Bengals in all 3 areas. They were 31x73 (42.5%) from the field, 6x14 (42.9%) from 3 point land (a far cry from the 2x25 against SLU on Tuesday), and 19x27 (70.4%) from the line.

The Bengals were 33x79 from the field (41.8%), 5x21 (23.8%) from downtown and 9x20 (45.0%) from the stripe.

Plattsburgh killed Buff State off the boards 59-39, however the Bengals only had 11 turnovers to 19 for the  Cards. The 20 points that the Bengals got off those turnovers helped keep them in the game despite being outshot and outrebounded.

Plattsburgh improves to 4-1 overall, 1-0 in the YAC. They will travel to Fredonia to take on the Blue Devils at 2:00 PM tomorrow.

Buffalo State falls from the undefeated ranks and is now 4-1 overall, 0-1 in the conference and will host Potsdam at 2:00 PM tomorrow.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 06:34:12 AM
Brockport State 93 Oneonta State 83

The teams jockeyed back and forth through the early part of the period and were tied at 16 with 11:18 to go. Brockport then went on a 14-4 spurt that put them up by a double digit 30-20 lead. The rest of the period saw the lead vary between 7 and 13 points before the Golden Eagles went into the break up 50 to 40.

Brockport quickly built the lead to 15 points, 3 minutes into the period and maintained control throughout. The Red Dragons cut into a 14 point lead with a 9-2 burst that brought them within 7 points at 65-58 with 12:47 left  in the game. Not quite 2 minutes later the score was 74-60 and the lead was back to 14. It reached as much as 20 points, as the Eagles had an answer for every Oneonta thrust. If it wasn't Clifton Lyerly with a flurry of points, it was Cordell Torres or Devon Gavin. If it seemed like they scored in bunches, it was because they did.

The Golden Eagles
Lyerly was the leader for Brockport once again, and captured scoring honors with a game high 24 points (10x16 fg, 0x3 3's, 4x8 ft). He got his first double-double of the season with another game high total of 11 rebounds. He added a pair of assists and 2 steals.

Devonn Gavin was close behind with 21 points (9x15 fg, 3x3 3's). 2 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Hamed Shamseldin had 14 points (4x14 fg, 3x8 3's, 3x4 ft), 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Marcus Blythers, had 10 points, 5 blocks, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists.

Cordell Torres had 9 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists.

Jake Mitchell was 1x1 from the field for a 3 pointer and his first points in a Brockport uniform.


The Red Dragons
Dwayne Freeman scored a career high 22 points (9x14 fg, 3x5 3's, 1x1 ft), with 2 assists a rebound and a block

Lawrence Coleman had 21 points (8x14 fg, 2x4 3's). He had a  team high 8 rebounds and 3 steals.

Mikey McElroy had 12 points and 7 rebounds.

Frankie Kelly chipped in with 3 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal.

Freshman Harrison Deegan scored his first SUNYAC points with 7 points in 5 minutes of court time.

Both teams had similar shooting percentages with Brockport  hitting 37x76 (48.7%) and Oneonta shooting  29x61 (47.5%). The Golden Eagles were 8x22 from long range (36.4%) while Oneonta was 7x17 (41.2%). The Red Dragons were quite a bit better from the line making 18x22 free throws (81.8%) to only 11x24 for Brockport (45.8%). Oneonta won the battle of the boards as well, grabbing 44 rebounds to 36 for the Eagles.

I stated in my review of this game that Brockport had the stronger bench and would come at the Red Dragons aggressively and in waves. Their bench outscored Oneonta's bench 36-19 and the Brockport defense was a big factor in this game as they created 25 turnovers to only 13 for the Eagles. Brockport had 13 steals to 5 for Oneonta. The turnover differential resulted in 25 points for Brockport to only 13 points for Oneonta. That 12 point difference mirrored the final score's 10 point margin.

Brockport remains undefeated at 5-0 overall, and 1-0 in the conference will host New Paltz on Saturday at 2:00 PM.

Oneonta falls to 1-4 overall, and 0-1 in league play. They will travel to Geneseo to complete their weekend road trip for a 2:00 matchup on Saturday.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 09:10:09 AM
Geneseo 95  New Paltz 74

The Hawks, fresh off their first victory of the year, came to play, and they had the Knights playing catchup for nearly all of the first half. New Paltz jumped out to early 7-2, 9-4 and 12-7 leads, before Geneseo caught them and went ahead 14-12 with 7 minutes gone by in the opening period. The Hawks didn't fold though and came back to take a 9 point lead on several occasions, with the last one coming at the 5:46 mark and New Paltz ahead 31-22. 7 straight points by John Decker followed by 4 points from Kevin Crockett brought the Knights within 1 at 31-30. A pair of Jack Eisenberg free throws tied the score at 33 but the Hawks got a layup by James Saunders and a 3 pointer from Nick Paquette to go in front 38-33 with just under 2 minutes left in the half. Geneseo countered with 4 straight free throws from Tommy Eastman and a pair from the stripe by Crockett with 36 seconds left to go into the break up 39-38.

Nick Paquette quickly hit another 3 pointer to open the 2nd period and put the Hawks back in front 41-38. It was the last time they would have the lead as Geneseo began firing on all cylinders. Justin Ringen, Eastman, and Jack Manke all scored inside on layups. Then the Knights were the recipients of 4 trips to the line, 3 by John Decker that resulted in 8 made free throws. A 3 point play by Crockett boosted the lead to double figures at 58-46 and the Hawks never got close after that. The Knights scored 5 straight times on layups inside, 3 of them by CJ Burke. Then, the Decker and Ringen show took center stage with those two scoring the next 19 points for the Knights, 10 by Decker and 9 by Ringen. The lead was 27, the score was 87-60 and the celebration had begun. The benches were emptied and the New Paltz reserves outscored the Knights' reserves 14-8 over the final 4:40 to make the score 95-74.

The Knights
John Decker continued his torrid scoring pace as he dropped in 32 points (8x11 fg, 3x5 3's, 13x14 ft) with 5 rebounds, an assist and a steal.

Justin Ringen had 16 points (5x10 fg, 3x5 3's, 3x4 ft) and 3 rebounds.

Freshman Tommy Eastman in his first conference game, had a team leading 7 rebounds and 8 points in 18 minutes off the bench.

Kevin Crockett had 9 points, 3 assists 2 rebounds and a steal in 22 minutes off the bench.

Freshman Terrance Nichols hit his first collegiate 3 pointer and first conference points. He also had 4 assists and 2 rebounds.

Jack Eisenberg had 4 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.


The Hawks
Dylan Balducci had 14 points (5x14 fg, 4x11 ft), 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

James Saunders scored 13 points (6x9 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x2 ft) with 2 steals and a block in 13 minutes off the bench. Those were his first points in conference play.

Nick Paquette had 9 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assists and a steal.

Freshman Emilio Cerda had 9 points and 2 assists in 11 minutes off the bench, as he made his debut in a conference game.

CJ Burke had 8 points, 5 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal and a block.

Freshman Nick Arthur also scored his first YAC points as he had 7 points, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks and a steal.

Freshman Matt English started and scored 5 points in his debut in the SUNYAC conference. He was 2x3 in 14 minutes of court time.

Corey Garcia had 4 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.

Geneseo held the edge in all 3 shooting categories as they went  27x55 from the field (49.1%), 9x20 from long distance 45.0%, and 32x41 (78.0) from the line.

New Paltz shot 29x60 from the field (48.3%), 8x24 from behind the arc (33.3%), and 8x11 (72.7%) from the foul line.

The Knights controlled the boards 40-26, had less turnovers 13 to 17, and got 39 points from their bench to 34 for he Hawks.

Geneseo improves to 4-1 overall, 1-0 in the YAC and will host Oneonta on Saturday at 2:00 PM

New Paltz drops to 1-5 overall and 0-1 in conference play. They will travel to Brockport to play the Golden Eagles at 2:00 PM.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 10:52:18 AM
Fredonia State 79  Potsdam State 59

Coach Jim Bechtel received some rude treatment at the hands of the Blue Devils as they welcomed the first year Potsdam coach into the SUNYAC with a rough 2nd half that pinned a 20 point defeat on the Bears, in his first conference game. Probably not what he had in mind.

The Bears weren't in bad shape at the end of the first period which saw them claw back from three, 15 point deficits, the last one coming with 4:38 left in the half and the score at 34-19. The Bears held Fredonia scoreless for the remainder of the half and went on a 10-0 run to go into the break a mere 5 points down at 34-29.

The Bears leading scorer, Nosa Onabor, had yet to hit a field goal, missing on all 6 first half attempts. but surely that would change in the upcoming 20 minutes. The Bears were still in the game through the early play of the 2nd period. The Blue Devils began to take over when the score stood at 40-36 with 15:52 left to play. Fredonia got scoring from 6 different players led by 7 points from Ian Helps to go on a 22-7 run and stretch their lead to 19 points at 62-43 with 8:19 remaining. The lead reached as much as 25 and the Bears' night was over.

The Blue Devils
Ian Helps had a game high 21 points (8x18 fg, 5x7 ft) and a team high 7 rebounds. He added 3 assists and a block .

Richard De La Cruz had 12 points (3x9 fg, 0x2 3's, 6x6 ft). He had 4 assists. 3 rebounds and 3 steals.

Dante Williams had 11 points (5x7 fg, 1x2 3's), with 3 steals, 2 rebounds and 1 assist.

Tommie Banks had 9 points in 15 minutes off the bench.

Justin Tapper had 6 points 7 rebounds and 2 steals.

Kareem Brown had 5 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.

Brandon Hodge had 3 assists, 2 points 2 rebounds and a steal.

Freshman Daquon Smith saw 7 minutes of court time and scored his first SUNYAC points with a 2x2 performance from the field, including his first 3 pointer as a collegian.

Freshman Christian Marinez scored his first conference points as well and grabbed a pair of rebounds in 6 minutes on the floor.


The Bears

Dante Langley started and scored 9 points (4x5 fg, 1x2 3's, 0x1 ft). He was the co-leader in scoring for the Bears in only 16 minutes of court time.

Kevin Baksh also scored 9 points off the bench (3x5 fg, 2x3 3's, 1x2 ft) in 18 minutes of playing time. He had 2 rebounds and a steal.

Freshman Danny Delsol-Lowry started and had 7 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals for his SUNYAC debut .

Freshman Kristoff Saunders scored 6 points with 5 rebounds in his first SUNYAC game, getting 17 minutes off the bench.

Serigne Kane had 5 points, a game high 10 rebounds, 1 assist, a steal and a block.

Freshman  Aaron Armstrong broke into the conference scoring column with 6 points in 20 minutes of court time. He added an assist and a rebound.

Freshman Jaquan Thomas got 15 minutes of court time in his initial conference appearance. He scored 3 points, had 2 steals and a rebound.

Fredonia outshot the Bears in 2 of the 3 shooting categories. They were 30x68 (44.1%) from the field, 3x13 (23.1%) from 3 point range, and 16x20 (80.0%) from the line.

The Bears were just 19x58 from the field (32.8%), 7x27 from downtown (25.9%) and    14x23 (60.9%) from the stripe.

Potsdam was outboarded 44-37 and had 16 turnovers to 13 for the Blue Devils. The Bears couldn't stop the Blue Devils from scoring inside as they almost doubled Potsdam production in the paint... 46 points to 24 for the Bears. That was the biggest reason for the wide margin at the end of the game. That and the fact that Potsdam had a tough shooting night from some of their better shooters.

Fredonia improves to 3-3 overall and 1-0 in the YAC. They will host Plattsburgh State Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM

Potsdam won't find the going any easier this weekend as they travel over to Buffalo State to take on an angry Bengals team who suffered their first loss of the season Friday night. They will want to erase that bad memory and the Bears will be the recipient of their vengeance. Potsdam falls to 1-3 overall and 0-1 in conference play.

   
         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 03, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
5 games on tap today
3 of them should be pretty easy to predict
Brockport all over New Paltz
Buffalo State all over Potsdam
Plattsburgh all over Fredonia

The 2 games that are tough to call are
Cortland vs Oswego and Oneonta vs Geneseo
I'm hoping my Red Dragons can finally get back on the winning track today.
Oneonta in a close one, look for Frankie Kelly to have a big game today.

If Cortland plays the way they did against Ithaca they will give Oswego all they can handle.
Cortland in another close one

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 01:28:28 PM
All ten teams in action today. All games starting at 2:00 PM

Dec. 3rd   

Oneonta State  at  Geneseo State        2:00 PM Featured Game of the Day

The Red Dragons will not find their first conference win of the season today against the Knights. I would love to see it happen but the Dynamic Duo of Ringen and Decker will prove to be too much to overcome. Geneseo has owned the Red Dragons in recent memory going 10-1 over the past 5 years.The oddsmakers predict a close contest with Geneseo favored by a slim 3 point margin. That's pretty much how I see it. Final score should be Geneseo 84  Oneonta 79. But I hope I'm wrong on this one.   


New Paltz State at  Brockport State     2:00 PM

The Hawks were grounded yesterday and they will get their wings clipped today for good measure. The Golden Eagles are faster and there are more of them. Brockport leads this series 8-2 over the last 5 years. The point spread is 20 and that may be too small. Brockport 88 New Paltz 64.   
   
Potsdam State  at  Buffalo State        2:00 PM

The Bears should hibernate until tomorrow. These Bengals will be in an unruly mood. The last time the Bears beat the Bengals was January 20th 2007. They have lost 16 straight games in this series. It will be 17 straight after today. Bengals back on Victory Row, as they win big, 94-69.


Cortland State at  Oswego State        2:00 PM

These Red Dragons and the Lakers kick off their conference season today in a rematch of the SUNYAC Championship game of last year. The Cortland squad got a game winner from James Morales at the buzzer to walk off Plattsburgh State's court a 77-74 winner, proving that you can beat a team 3 times in one year. It was just payback for the 3 times the Lakers won against Cortland in the 2013-14 season. These teams have played 20 times in the past 8 years and Oswego holds a 12-8 advantage. The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 4 point favorite at home in Max Ziel  Gym. I see it slightly different and will pick the minor upset here as the Red Dragons win by an 84-74 final score
   
Plattsburgh State  at  Fredonia State        2:00 PM

The Cardinals need to be wary of a letdown here as Fredonia can play with anybody and if they get hot like St. Lawrence did the other night then a 1-1 western swing trip is possible. Beating the toughest of the two opponents on the first night of the road trip is good but the Cardinals had a tougher game than the Blue Devils did last night and they didn't have to make a 7 hour trip. Plattsburgh has won 8 in a row against the Blue Devils and  is 11-3 in the past 7 years. Fredonia is off to their best start in 4 years  and will come to play. The oddsmakers have the Cards as a 10 point favorite in this one. I thnk they win by more. Plattsburgh 87 Fredonia 70.   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2016, 02:40:04 PM

Oswego with a late first half push topping Cortland 31-23. Neither side lighting it up --- Lakers 39fg percentage, Corts 21 percent. Oswego with 28-14 board edge -- 10 from Krecko. B. Sortino with 13 pts(5x10fg, 3x6 3s). Eight RDragons score, none more than J. Cooper, N. Bonura 5 apiece ........
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 02:42:39 PM
Oswego leads Cortland at the half by a 31-23 score.

Bryan Sortino with 13 points and 4 rebounds to lead the way for the Lakers.
Jamir Ferebee with 8 points and Keith Tyson with 7.

Cortland led by Justin Cooper and Nick Bonura with 5 points each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 02:48:32 PM
Plattsburgh leads Fredonia by a 37-29 margin at halftime.

Jon Patron with 14 points and 6 rebounds to lead the Cards.

Eric Mack close behind with 11 points and 4 boards off the bench. Zack Coleman next with 6 points.

Fredonia's Ian helps also with 14 points and 7 boards. Nicc Johnson is next with 6 points.

Cards led by as much as 14 before Blue Devils closed to within 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 02:53:42 PM
Brockport clobbering New Paltz 47-16 at the half.

Marcus Blythers with 13 points and 7 boards.
Cordell Torres and David Clark with 7 each.

New Paltz gets 8 points from James Saunders.

This one is over early as Coach Dunne has already has his entire lineup in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Geneseo leading Oneonta early in the 2nd half by a 5546 score with 17 minutes to go in the game.

Mikey McElroy with 11 and Hack Kolosky with 10 for the Red Dragons.

John Decker with 15 points. Justin Ringen with 14 and Kevin Crockett with 13 for the Knights.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 03:23:38 PM
Buffalo State leads Potsdam 43-38 at the break.

Nico McLean with 11 and Mike Henry with 9 for the Bengals.

Jayquan Thomas with 13 for Potsdam. Danny Delsol-Lowry with 7 points and Dante Langley with 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 03:43:19 PM
Plattsburgh State 75  Fredonia State 57 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 03:52:42 PM
Oneonta State gets a driving layup from Frankie Kelly with seconds left on the clock to beat Geneseo by a final score of 89-88.

Geneseo had time to get it just past half court but a desperation 40 footer was well off the mark. I watched a replay of Kelly's basket. It looked just like what he did to Plattsburgh State 2 years ago when he drove to the hoop on the final play of the game.

Congrats to Coach Conover for getting his first win in the SUNYAC as a head coach. I'm sure it will be the first on many more over the years.I'm also sure he won't forget this one!!  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 03:54:04 PM
Oswego State wins a tight one over Cortland State by a 61-57 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 03:55:22 PM
Brockport more than doubles up New Paltz winning by a 98-46 final score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 03, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Oswego over Cortland 61-57 in far from championship caliber outing by either side. Host Lakers shoot 33 percent from the field, RDragons 29 percent. OSt dominates the boards 49-34 with M. Krecko grabbing 13 alongside six blocks. Lakers clutch FTs late after Corts climb within 59-57 on J. Cooper drive.

Lakers expand halftime lead quickly to 37-23 before Dragons' run gets them within single digits. Oswego enjoys five to seven point leads most of the way thereafter. Cortland misses tying 3-point attempt in final seconds. Laker B. Sortino sinks 1 of 2 FT to close out the scoring.

Sortino with 20 points(7x19fg, 4x8 3s), K. Tyson 16 pts, J. Ferebee 10 pts. Cooper heads up Cortland scoring with 18 pts (5x15fg). J. Morales with 11 pts, N. Bonura 13 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 03:56:56 PM
Buffalo State clamps down on the Bears in the 2nd half and defeats Potsdam going away by a 91-67 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2016, 09:30:37 PM
Plattsburgh State 75  Fredonia State 57 final score.

The Cardinals played a sloppy game with 16 turnovers and shot poorly from behind the arc making only 3 of 18 attempts, but still managed to win by an 18 point margin. They trailed for the first 5 minutes of the game and were down 7-1 but then 7 points from Jon Patron along with 6 more from Eric Mack fueled a 19-2 outburst that carried the Cardinals to a 20-9 double digit lead. The Blue Devils would fight back and close the gap to 22-18, only to have Plattsburgh rip off another 11-1 run that made the score 33-19 with 3:23 remaining in the period. Zack Coleman with 4 points and Patron with 5 led that surge. The Blue Devils managed to get the final 5 points of the half while the Cardinals fumbled their way through the last 2 minutes and gave up a 13 point lead, settling instead for an 8 point advantage at the break.

Fredonia's Ian Helps scored the first basket of the 2nd period and the lead was just 6 points. It would never be that close again. Eli Bryant scored twice and Chris Middleton buried a 3 to ignite a 9-1 spurt that made the score 46-32 and the Cardinals maintained a double digit lead the rest of the game except briefly when Fredonia cut it to 9 points at 50-41 with 11:11 to go. 4 points from Bryant and 3 from Patron, started another 9-0 run that made it 59-41 and this game was over. The Cardinals were never threatened after that. Coach Curle got everyone into the game which kept the final margin under 20 points.

Jon Patron was once again the game's leading scorer and rebounder as he compiled a double-double of 27 points (11x20 fg, 0x3 3's, 5x7 ft) and 13 rebounds (I think he had more boards than that ???). It was his 4th double-double of the young season, a figure that I believe, leads the SUNYAC.

Eric Mack had 15 points (5x10 fg, 1x3 3's, 4x4 ft), 7 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 assist and a block.

Eli Bryant had 10 points, 3 steals, 2 rebounds, and 1 assist.

Zack Coleman had 6 points, 3 assists, and 2 rebounds.


Ian Helps led the Blue Devils with 20 points (7x10 fg, 6x13 ft) and completed his double-double with a team high 10 rebounds.

Nicc Johnson had 12 points (4x9 fg, 1x5 3's, 3x4 ft), 5 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Brandon Hodge had 7 points.

Plattsburgh improves to 5-1 overall and 2-0 in the SUNYAC. They are tied with Brockport for first place in the standings. The Cardinals are off until Tuesday December 6th when they host Skidmore College at 7:00 PM

Fredonia drops to 3-4 overall and 1-1 in the YAC. They are off until next weekend when they travel to Oswego to take on the Lakers.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2016, 07:34:14 AM
Oneonta 89  Geneso 88

The Red Dragons only led in this game one time...but it was the one time that mattered...when the final buzzer sounded. 

Geneseo opened the game on an 8-0 run and the Knights went up 14-4 less than 3 minutes into the game on the strength of four 3 pointers. Justin Ringen had 3 of them and John Decker had the other one. Oneonta used a flurry of threeballs to cut into that deficit as Dwayne Freeman, Mikey McElroy, and Jack Kolosky all hit from downtown. The Knights were on top 19-15 after 5 minutes of play. Kevin Crockett got into the act for Geneseo as he nailed a 3 pointer, got fouled on a 3 point attempt and swished 3 from the stripe,and then made another shot from long range. Once more the Knights had a sizable lead at 30-18 and increased their margin to as many as 16 points before settling for an 11 point 48-37 halftime edge.

Oneonta tried to cut into the double digit lead but every time they got it under 10 points, the Knights would respond, usually with a 3 pointer or back to back buckets and the Red Dragons' rally would be short lived. McElroy scored to cut the lead to 7 points at 81-74 but seconds later Crockett scored and was fouled and with 5 minutes left to play the Knights were still in front by 10 points. Still down by 9 with 3:31 left, Freeman scored from downtown and Coleman scored from uptown. The gap was 4 points and the Red Dragons had made it a 2 possession game for the first time since it was 19-15, five minutes into the game.

The Knights called a timeout hoping to regroup but they failed to score on their possession. Oneonta got a layup from Kolosky but Decker was fouled at the other end and made them both to make it 88-84. McElroy got fouled, made 1 of 2 and when the Knights grabbed the rebound with 1:39 to play it didn't look good for the Red Dragons. The Knights came up empty on their possession with 1:16 to play and Oneonta's Frankie Kelly drove to the hoop and scored to make it 88-87 with 1:09 to go. The Knights took another time out and rather than run time off the clock, went for an early score. Decker missed a layup attempt, but got the rebound and Geneseo called another timeout with 45 ticks on the clock. The Knights, looking to inbound the ball when play resumed, were forced to take another time out to avoid a 5 second call. Geneseo wound the clock down but found themselves facing a shot clock violation and the resulting 3 point attempt by Decker was not a good shot and was off the mark. Mikey McElroy secured the biggest rebound of the night and the Red Dragons called a time out with 12 seconds to play.

I've seen this act before, and knew what was coming, as Frankie Kelly inbounded the ball after the time out. He got the return pass, dribbled upcourt and made his move to the hoop. He laid it up and the ball dropped through the net, just like it was supposed to do. There were 3 seconds left to play and Oneonta finally had their lead. The Knights rushed the ball up and let one fly just over the halfcourt line but it was off target and the Oneonta bench began the celebration.

After the game Oneonta's  head coach, Cameron Conover, had this to say. "Wow! That was fun. It's about playing defense and getting stops.  Our guys started playing great defense at the end of the first half. We held them without a field goal for the last 5:38 of the first half. I just told the guys at halftime that if they give that same effort for the next 20 minutes, I'll be proud of them regardless of what the scoreboard says. I also told them that if they give that effort for the whole second half, then we were going to win the game."

I'm not sure if the Coach had them winning in such dramatic fashion but he sure was right about the effort and about the team winning, if the effort was there. The rest of the SUNYAC was served notice on Saturday that the Red Dragons and their coach won't stop playing until the game is over.

The Red Dragons
Lawrence Coleman had a team high 19 points (7x8 fg, 5x8 ft) and a team high 8 rebounds.

Mikey McElroy had 18 points (6x14 fg, 2x3 3's, 4x9 ft) and 6 boards.

Jack Kolosky had a perfect night shooting the rock with  14 points (6x6 fg, 1x1 3's, 1x1 ft), with 5 rebounds, a steal and a block.

Frankie Kelly had 12 points (5x7 fg, 2x2 ft) and most importantly, the final 4 put up on the scoreboard. He also had a game high 8 assists, 3 rebounds and 3 steals. Some guy I know said he would have a big game. He must have bought a crystal ball to match mine. 8-)

Dwayne Freeman scored 8 points including a big 3 pointer that made it a 2 possession game in the heart of the Red Dragon comeback.

Freshman Harrison Deegan continues to give Oneonta valuable minutes off the bench. He had 7 points, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist in 16 minutes of court time.

The Knights
Kevin Crockett was the leading scorer in the game with 27 points (8x14 fg, 3x6 3's, 8x8 ft). He also had 5 assists and 4 rebounds.

John Decker had 24 points (7x16 fg, 4x10 3's, 6x7 ft), 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block.

Justin Ringen scored 14 points (5x9 fg, 4x5 3's) with 5 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists.

Jack Eisenberg had 6 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds and a block.

CJ Burke had 6 points, 2 assists, 1 rebound and a block in 15 minutes of court time off the bench.

Overall the statistics were fairly close between the teams. Oneonta had an edge in 2 of the 3 shooting categories. The Red Dragons were 33x60 from the field (55.0%),    7x15 from long range (46.7%) and 16x24  (66.7%) from the line.

Geneseo shot  30x60 (50.0%) from the field 13x28  from downtown (46.4%) and 15x17 (88.2%) from the line.

Oneonta had the edge in rebounding 36-27 and turnovers were slightly in favor of the Knights as they had 8 miscues to 9 for Oneonta.   

The Red Dragons improve to 2-4 overall and 1-1 in the SUNYAC. They will be back in action on Tuesday when they host Oswego State at 5:30 PM.

Geneseo drops to 4-2 overall, 1-1 in the conference. They will travel to Rochester on Tuesday to face the Yellowjackets at 7:00 PM. 
     
           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2016, 08:51:29 PM
Brockport 98  New Paltz 46

The Golden Eagles wasted little time taking control of this game. They scored the first 12 points of the game and when the Hawks cut the lead to 13-6 that was the closest they got all night long. I expected the Eagles to win by a large margin but I didn't expect them to double up the Hawks score.

Brockport's Coach Dunne had his starters on the bench for most of the 2nd half. The last 6 players in his rotation had 77 of the 200 minutes on the floor and they were still outscoring the Hawks.

Five players scored in double figures for Brockport led by Marcus Blythers with a game high 15 points. He just missed a double-double as he also had a game high of 9 rebounds. He also had 3 blocks and 1 assist. He was the only Brockport player with more than 17 minutes of playing time as he logged a team high 22 minutes.

Jacob Peterson scored 14 points and grabbed 3 boards in 14 minutes.

Hamed Shamseldin had 11 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Devonn Gavin scored 10 points with 2 boards, 2 assists and a steal in 10 minutes on the floor.

Malik Sylla had 10 points and 3 rebounds.

Jake Mitchell filled up the stat sheet with 7 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals, 3 assists, and a block in 17 minutes off the bench.

Cordell Torres had 9 points.7 rebounds and 2 steals.

The Hawks were led by 11 points from James Saunders who also had 2 boards and 2 steals..

Corey Garcia had 8 points, 5 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.

Brockport shot the ball much better than New Paltz, who struggled with accuracy in all three areas. The Golden Eagles man to man, pressure defense, created 31 turnovers that resulted in 32 points. They won the rebounding battle as well by a 54 to 38 margin.

Brockport remains unbeaten with a 6-0 overall record and tied with Plattsburgh State for first place in the SUNYAC standings with a 2-0 record. The Golden Eagles will be back in action on Tuesday, December 6th when they travel to Hobart to take on the Statesmen at 8:00 PM. They will then head to Northern New York for games at Potsdam and Plattsburgh this coming weekend. Should the Cardinals and Eagles both win their Friday night games they will square off on Saturday afternoon, for an early first place showdown in the SUNYAC.

New Paltz will look to regroup after dropping both conference games over the weekend, as they fall to 1-6 overall and 0-2 in the YAC. Next up they host Cortland on Tuesday to take on those Red Dragons at 5:30 PM, followed by a visit from the Oneonta variety of Red Dragons on Saturday December 10th. Sure to be a warm week in New Paltz with all those fire breathers coming to town. Get out the marshmallows. :D         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2016, 10:51:11 PM
                           
                                        USUNYAC Team of The Week   Week 3 (Nov 28th - Dec 4th)

Lawrence Coleman -  (3 games)  - Oneonta
19 ppg & 9.67 rpg
BIG GAME - 17 pts and 13 rebounds vs Hartwick

*Ian Helps (3) - Fredonia
19 ppg & 7.3 rpg
BIG GAME - 20 pts and 10 rebounds vs Plattsburgh

Mike Henry (3) - Buffalo State
18.67 ppg & 7.67 rpg
BIG GAME 28 pts and 11 rebounds vs Plattsburgh

John Decker (2) - Geneseo
28 ppg & 4 rpg
BIG GAME 32 pts and 5 rebounds vs New Paltz

*Justin Cooper (2) - Cortland
17.5 ppg & 8 rpg
BIG GAME 17 pts and 13 rebounds vs Ithaca

Jonathon Patron (3) - Plattsburgh
23 ppg & 11.67 rpg
BIG GAME 27 pts and 13 rebounds vs Fredonia


* = tied in voting for 5th spot  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2016, 03:59:05 AM
Buffalo State 91  Potsdam State 67

Potsdam tried to make a game of this despite the gap in talent between the two teams. The Bears didn't know they were 17 point dogs against the Bengals, so they came out of the gate, grabbed the early lead and gradually increased it until they were in front by a 27-18 score with 6:41 left in the half. Jayquan Thomas had the hot hand for Potsdam as he scored 13 first half points to lead the Bears. The Bengals were still trailing 33-28 when they scored 11 straight points to grab the lead at 39-33 with 1:48 left in the period. The teams traded free throws and baskets, as the Bengals went into the break up by a 43-38 score.

Buff State wasted little time after intermission to set things right. Lovell Smith scored a layup on their initial possession and Jordan Glover got a steal and followed suit 12 seconds later. Potsdam missed their first shot of the 2nd half and Glover buried a 3 pointer and in 43 seconds the lead had gone from 5 points to 12 at 50-38 and the Bears were calling time out. For the next 6 minutes the lead fluctuated between 10 to 12 points, but the Bears could never get it back to single digits. Up 60 to 50 with 14 minutes left to play, the Bengals blew the game wide open with a 13-0 run over 4 minutes that put them up 73-50 with 10 minutes remaining. The lead grew to 26 as the Bengals got all 15 players into the game and 13 of them hit the scoring column.

Nico McLean was the Bengal's high scorer with 22 points, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists.

J O Spence had 12 points and a team high 6 rebounds in 19 minutes off the bench.

Mike Henry had 11 points, 5 rebounds and 4 steals.

Lovell Smith had 9 points, 3 rebounds, 4 steals and 1 assist.

Freshman Zach Ciezki had 8 points, 3 assists and 3 steals in 15 minutes of court time.


Dante Langley led the Bears and captured scoring honors with 23 points, shooting 9x14 from the field. He added 3 rebounds, 3 steals and a block.

Jayquan Thomas had 13 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 22 minutes off the bench.

Danny Delsol-Lowry had 10 points, 8 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Kristoff Saunders scored 2 points with the only shot he took, but was the leading rebounder in the game with 9 boards in 20 minutes of court time off the bench.

Nosa Onabor added 8 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal in 11 minutes.

The Bears actually had better shooting stats from long distance and from the line than the Bengals and had a 43-38 edge on rebounds. The Bengals constant pressure was the key factor in the game as they harassed and hurried Potsdam into a season high 35 turnovers. That was more than twice as many as they had in any game this season. The Bengals converted those turnovers into 37 points which accounted for their 24 point margin of victory.

Buffalo State ups their record to 5-1 overall (1-1 SUNYAC) and will be off until next weekend when they travel to Central NY for games against Cortland on Friday and Oswego on Saturday.

The Bears fall to 1-4 overall and 0-2 in the YAC. Potsdam will next play crosstown rival Clarkson, as the Golden Knights invade Jerry Welsh Gym in Maxcy Hall, on Tuesday Dec. 6th at 7:30 PM.


     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2016, 06:50:31 AM
Oswego State 61 Cortland State 57

I expected a better effort from both of these teams as the final score was indicative of two teams with offensive liabilities. Yet, coming into this contest, Cortland was averaging nearly 90 ppg. The Lakers have stuggled at times, but were still putting up over 75 ppg. Neither team lived up to those numbers.

Cortland shot 30 % from the field and Oswego wasn't much better at 33.3%. They both were right around 35% from long distance. Cortland was a bit better from the line, 72.2% to 66.7% but the Lakers had 27 foul shots to 18 for the Red Dragons. Oswego made 18 and Cortland sank 13 and there's the point difference in the ballgame.

The Lakers broke on top to grab early leads of 8-2 and 14-7 before the Red Dragon caught them with a Nicky Bonura 3 pointer to tie the game at 20 apiece. It was the only time the game was knotted up and it was as close to a lead as Cortland would get. 15 seconds later Oswego's Brian Sortino drained a 3 pointer to put the Lakers in front for good and a pair of 3's by Sortino and Louis Avellino gave Oswego a 31-23 lead heading into the locker room.

Laker big man, Mykelle Krecko, scored his only points of the game to open the 2nd half and Sortino followed with a layup to bump the lead to 12 points. Five straight missed shots followed and when the Lakers Kieth Tyson hit a pair of free throws, Oswego had their largest lead of the night at 37-23. An 11-2 run by the Red Dragons cut the lead to 39-34 with 14:38 left to play. Over the next 14 minutes and 23 seconds the lead was never greater than 8 points or less than 3. Down by 6 points with 48 seconds left, Cortland cut the lead to 4 after Justin Cooper sank a pair of free throws with 31 seconds on the clock. Cortland called a timeout, the Lakers promptly turned the ball over and Cooper scored on a layup with 15 ticks left to make it 59-57. The Red Dragons immediately foul Ian Schupp who makes the first and misses the 2nd giving Cortland a chance to tie the game with a 3 pointer. James Morales committed the foul that sent Schupp to the line. Morales is the one that corralled the rebound off Schuppp's missed free throw. Morales also takes the game tying shot as the clock winds down, just as he did last year, when he nailed a 3 pointer at the buzzer to beat the Lakers in the SUNYAC championship. Strange how fate has a way of setting things up. Alas, there is no joy in Cortland as this time, Morales' shot is off the mark. The Red Dragons get the offensive board but turn it over before they can get another shot off. Sortino is fouled with 3 seconds left and makes 1 of 2 from the line to secure the victory.

Brian Sortino captures scoring honors with a game high of 20 points. He adds 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Keith Tyson has 16 points and comes up just shy of a double-double with 9 rebounds. He adds 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

Jamir Ferebee comes off the bench and scores 10 points, has 4 boards and 1 assist in 23 minutes.

Mykelle Krecko only has 2 points but was the leading rebounder in the game with 13 boards and swatted away 6 shots.

Louis Avellino had 6 points, 6 rebounds and 2 assists in 25 minutes off the bench.


Cortland was led by 18 points from Justin Cooper. He had 3 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Nicky Bonura had 13 points and a pair of assists off the bench.

James Morales had 11 points, 2 steals , 1 rebound, 1 assist, and 1 block.

Mike Kelly had 5 points, a team high 8 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 assist.

Andre Hampton  scored 5 points, grabbed 4 boards and had 1 block.

Oswego had the edge in rebounds because of Krecko's big night off the glass, but Cortland took better care of the ball committing only 8 turnovers to 16 for the Lakers.

Oswego improves to 5-2 (1-0 SUNYAC) and will travel to Oneonta on Tuesday to face more Red Dragons in a 5:30 start. They complete their first half schedule with 2 more conference games against Fredonia and Buffalo State.

Cortland falls to 3-2 overall (0-1) and travels to New Paltz on Tuesday for a 5:30 PM game. They will host the same two teams as the Lakers this weekend and then wrap up their 1st semester with a game at St. John Fisher on December 17th at 4:00 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2016, 07:49:55 PM
Congrats to Jonathon Patron - Plattsburgh. SUNYAC Player of The Week!

The SUNYAC write up!

Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week - Jonathan Patron, Plattsburgh
(So, F - Huntington, N.Y.)
Patron averaged a double-double per game (23.0 ppg, 11.7 rpg) in a 2-1 week for the Cardinals. He shot 50.9 percent (17-of-36) from the floor on the week and also averaged 2.3 assists per game and one steal per game. He scored 27 points and shot 57.1 percent (12-of-21) from the field in a 91-73 loss to St. Lawrence University on Tuesday. On Friday, he scored 15 points and added 13 rebounds and three steals in Plattsburgh's 87-80 SUNYAC-opening win over Buffalo State. Finally, on Saturday, he drained 27 points off 11-of-20 shooting from the floor in the Cardinals' 75-57 victory over Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2016, 03:54:48 AM
The latest D3hoops Top 25 Poll was released Monday evening.

Rochester (8-0)  is still the only East Region school in the Top 25. The Yellowjackets  jumped from #18 with 168 points to #11 with 358 points for a gain of 190 points.

Skidmore (5-1)is getting 34 points in the Others Receiving Votes category which would make them #29 if we counted those teams. They increased their total by 10 points over last week.

Brockport (6-0) moves unto the ORV category with 11 points at #40, on the strength of their unbeaten record. They weren't mentioned last week.

Plattsburgh State (5-1) has a 2-1 week and drops from 10 points down to 3 points and a tie for the #45 spot.

Plattsburgh and Skidmore will meet tonight, for the 3rd time in the past 3 years and the game will be in Plattsburgh for the first time. The teams split the first two games so tonight will be the rubber match. Then the Cardinals will face Brockport on Saturday afternoon, for a possible early season battle for the SUNYAC lead.

Skidmore will then travel to Middlebury on Saturday to take on the Panthers. Last year the Thoroughbreds beat Middlebury for the first time in 11 years. The Panthers won't want them to start a winning streak. 

Brockport tackles Hobart tonight, on the road, which should prove to be an interesting matchup.

Rochester puts their unbeaten streak on the line as they host a tough Geneseo team led by John Decker and Justin Ringen. With a little luck this could have been a battle of unbeatens as Geneseo lost 2 close games and is 4-2 on the year. Geneseo will then face Plattsburgh on Friday in the Burgh. 

With these games on tap this week among the East Region teams there is sure to be some changes in next week's poll. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2016, 04:34:16 AM
Mr. Massey's rankings of the top 25 East Region teams through Sunday 12-4:

#16   Rochester    8-0
#29   Plattsburgh  5-1
#35   Brockport State  6-0
#42   St Lawrence  6-1
#63   Skidmore  5-1
#68   Buffalo State 5-1
#76   St. John Fisher 4-2
#78   Oswego State  5-2
#106 NYU  4-1
#112 Hobart 3-2
#118 Hartwick  4-2
#121 Clarkson 4-3
#130 Nazareth  4-3
#141 RPI  5-2
#149 Cortland State  3-2
#151 RIT  2-2
#158 Geneseo State  4-2 (Massey showing them at 3-2)
#168 Oneonta State  2-4 (Massey showing them at 2-5 counting exhibition loss against Albany)
#173 Stevens Tech  4-1
#189 Union 2-3
#210 Ithaca  3-3
#280 Alfred 3-3
#283 Fredonia  3-4
#289 Vassar  4-3
#290 Morrisville State  4-2


The remaining teams in the East Region aren't listed because their ranking is too low to make a difference. 



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 06, 2016, 08:10:31 AM
Don't forget also that Matt Snyder updates his regional ranking data periodically throughout the whole season, as well - his computer model for predicting the Regional Rankings is pretty accurate (at least by February).


http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2016, 10:24:48 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 06, 2016, 08:10:31 AM
Don't forget also that Matt Snyder updates his regional ranking data periodically throughout the whole season, as well - his computer model for predicting the Regional Rankings is pretty accurate (at least by February).


http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/

Good call thier Ryan. I had no idea that Snyders rankings are out this soon!  Although I must admit I like Massey's 6th place (east) over Snyders ranking (9th) for my Buff State BENGALS! 

Here's to hoping that the Cards can handle Skidmore!  Our conference needs this win!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2016, 05:38:45 PM
Dec. 6  7 Teams in action in 6 games   

Oswego State   at  Oneonta   State     5:30 PM

The Lakers are favored here by a slim 1 point margin. I think they win by 5. 75-70. Hope I'm wrong though.
   
Cortland State  at New Paltz State        5:30 PM

The Red Dragons win get back into the win column in a big way. Cortland is a 12 point double digit favorite. I think they win by 20. Final score 88-68, Dragons.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2016, 05:55:04 PM
Dec. 6 The rest of the games.  Pressed for time so just some quick picks

   
Geneseo State  at  Rochester        7:00 PM

Would love to see the Knights take down the Yellowjackets. Nothing like beating the top ranked University Athletic Association team. The oddsmakers have the Yellowjackets favored by 10. I think Ringen and Decker can keep it close but not sure they can win it. Rochester 84 Geneseo 79. Hope I'm wrong and the Knights pull it off.

   
Skidmore  at  Plattsburgh State        7:00 PM

Featured game of the night. The third meeting between these 2 teams in the last 3 years. Plattsburgh won in overtime down there 2 years ago. Plattsburgh lost down there last year. Tonight's the rubber match and we finally have them on our barn. Oddsmakers favor the Cardinals by 5 points. I have the Cardinals winning by an 85-82 final score. 
   
Brockport State at  Hobart        8:00 PM

The Golden Eagles have won the last 2 years. Hobart last won on Dcember 2nd 2011. The Eagles are favored here by a slim 3 point margin. i think they win by more. Brockport  80 Hobart 71.

   
Clarkson  at  Potsdam        8:00 PM

Crosstown rivals go at it in the Bears' Den. The Knights are favored by 11 points. I think the Bears will keep it closer than that. The Bears may even pull off the upset. I said may...Clarkson 75  Potsdam 69. I hope I'm wrong.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 06, 2016, 07:47:51 PM
Cortland 77, New Paltz 68
RDragons searching for right combinations. A. McGuire, heretofore little-used returnee but with history of being a scorer, delivers 19 points on 7x8fg, 5x6 3s. J. Cooper with matching 19 pts on 6x8fg, 7x8ft, 14 rebs. J. Prendergast with 9 pts, 5 rebs; J. Morales 9 pts. Corts pull the trigger at 51fg percent (28x54, 10x27 3s).
     D. Balducci with 24 Hawks' markers on 8x14fg, 6x13 3s, 5 rebs. N. Paquette 12 pts(4x9 3s), A. Seniuk 11 pts(5x10fg) 7 rebs; C. Garcia 7 assts, 5 rebs, 5 pf
     Cortland by 45-31 at midway stoppage. Takes charge with 18-0 run from 12:27 to 7:12 capped by McGuire trey. NP closes late to 71-66 with McGuire hoop quelling that surge. Dragons with 13 second half turnovers, 16 for the game. Bench produces 33 points


Oneonta 73, Oswego 67
RDragons up 36-26 at half and stretch to 13. Oswego within three points at 1:16 and again a bit later. L. Coleman FTs clutch for Oneonta in closing moments. M. McElroy with 19 pts(8x17fg) for victors whose Coleman with 17 pts(4x18fg) 13 rebs. D. Freeman with 16 pts(5x9fg, 4x4 3s). B. Sortino with 16 pts (8x17fg) for Lakers

Plattsburgh overcomes 10 point halftime deficit to beat Skidmore 86-78

Rochester edges Geneseo 82-80

Potsdam falls 74-59 to Clarkson

Brockport trails Hobart 41-30 with 11 minutes left. Port strikes for the game's first seven points but is in 23-19 halftime arrears
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2016, 09:54:48 PM
Brockport falls from the undefeated ranks as they lose to Hobart 65-52.

Didn't see that one coming. :P
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on December 06, 2016, 10:42:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2016, 09:54:48 PM
Brockport falls from the undefeated ranks as they lose to Hobart 65-52.

Didn't see that one coming. :P

I could say that anyone who can beat Scranton this year must be good. ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2016, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: ronk on December 06, 2016, 10:42:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 06, 2016, 09:54:48 PM
Brockport falls from the undefeated ranks as they lose to Hobart 65-52.

Didn't see that one coming. :P

I could say that anyone who can beat Scranton this year must be good. ::)

Nice 1 ronk!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2016, 09:09:18 AM
Plattsburgh State 86  Skidmore 78

The Cardinals and Throughbreds are two of the better teams in the East Region and will be in the running for their respective conference championships. They both could also be in the mix for at large bids to the NCAA tournament, should they fail to win the automatic qualifier. It was tough picking the winner of ths game, so I was happy to see that the final score was fairly close to my predicted 85-82 Cardinal victory. I got my money's worth of action at Memorial Hall on Tuesday night.   

The first half was a closely contested affair with several ties and lead changes until Skidmore, up 22-20, went on an 18-7 burst led by 8 points from Edvinus Rupkus and 5 points from Aldin Medunjanin. The Thoroughbreds opened up the largest lead of the game for either team at 40-27. The Cardinals cut the lead to 8 on a Jon Patron layup and 2 free throws from Eli Bryant, but Skidmore worked the final possession of the half, perfectly, to their advantage, as Marcus Jackson hit a short jumper with 3 seconds left on the clock to give the Thoroughbreds a 10 point 42-32 advantage at the break.

Rupkus was the Liberty League's Rookie of the Year last year and he didn't disappoint as he led Skidmore with 16 first half points. Medunjanin, was a D3hoops preseason All American last year as a senior, but went down with a leg injury against Plattsburgh State on November 23rd. He was out until December 28th and started against Ramapo in the D3hoops.com Classic in Las Vegas, but 4 minutes into the 2nd half he reinjured the leg and missed the rest of the season. Because he only played in 5 games, the NCAA granted him a medical redshirt. It was good to see him back and healthy. He scored 7 points in the first half, with 6 assists and 3 rebounds.

The Skidmore coaching staff decided early on, that they weren't going to let Jon Patron beat them. Every time Plattsburgh's go to guy got a pass inside or down low, Mendujanin, who was guarding Patron, immediately got help and Patron was double and sometime triple teamed, usually with help from Skidmore's 6'8" center Marcus Jackson or Rupkus if he was close by. Patron, averaging a double-double this season, only managed 6 points and 4 rebounds in the opening stanza as the Cards were forced to look elsewhere for their points. Eli Bryant hit 4 of 6 shots from the field and led Plattsburgh with 12 points at the break.           

The Cardinals needed to cut into that lead early in the half or they risked a repetition of last year's debacle in Saratoga, against this team. With Patron drawing such heavy coverage other players would need to take advantage of Skidmore's collasping defense on him. Slowly Plattsburgh narrowed the gap and got within 7 points on a pair of Chris Middleton free throws with 15:21 left in the game. The Cardinals super sub, Eric Mack, also entered the game at that point and proceeded to fuel a 12-3 run that brought Plattsburgh from a 48-41 deficit to a 53-51 lead with 11:49 remaining. Mack scored 9 of those 12 points as he flew to the rim for a pair of layups, hit a 3 pointer and made a pair from the line when he was hammered on another glide to the rim. It was the Cardinals first lead in over 20 minutes. Rupkus scored to tie the game for Skidmore but Jon Patron grabbed an offensive rebound and laid it back in to regain the lead for Plattsburgh. Two free throws by Eli Bryant and a 3 pointer by Middleton put the Cardinals up by 7 and the Cards had turned the tables on the visitors. It was 60-53 with 9 minutes to go. Skidmore wasn't about to roll over, not with Mendunjanin, Rupkus and Royce Paris to keep them in the game. Those 3 scored the final 25 points that Skidmore put on the board. The lead went from 7 down to 2 but the Throughbreds could never tie the game or regain the lead.

Mendunjanin scored with 1:56 to go to cut the lead to 75-73. But Eli Bryant once again got a big basket when he nailed a 3 pointer to make it a 2 possession game 20 seconds later. On the ensuing Skidmore possession, Eric Mack timed a Mendunjanin pass, intercepted it, and was off to the races as he finished at the rim with a layin, that boosted the margin to 80-73 forcing a Skidmore timeout. Rupkus scored after the time out, but Middleton, Mack and Bryant went 6x6 from the line down the stretch, to close out the Thoroughbreds and claim the rubber match of their 3 game series.

Plattsburgh was led by Eric Mack as he came off the bench and scored a career high 26 points (9x14 fg, 1x4 3's, 7x8 ft). Mack scored 21 of those points in the 2nd half as he seemingly scored at will.  He added 5 rebounds 3 steals and 2 blocks in 26 minutes of court time. It seemed like he had more than 2 blocks. His steal and layup with 1:19 left gave Plattsburgh a 3 possession lead and essentially salted this one away for the Redbirds.   

Eli Bryant had 25 points (7x10 fg, 3x4 3's, 8x8 ft) with 4 rebounds and 4 assists. His 3 pointer with a minute and a half to play was huge.

Jon Patron was double teamed all night long and got hammered numerous times with no call. He still managed to score 11 points (5x13 fg, 0x2 3's 1x 2ft) with 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Chris Middleton also had 11 points (1x10 fg, 1x4 3's 8x8 ft) with 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.

Zach Coleman scored 6 points, had 4 assists, 2 rebounds and was all over the court on defense. He usually draws the other team's best player and tonight was no different. 

Skidmore got 58 of their 78 points from the 3 guys that have been the foundation of the offense all year.

Edvinas Rupkus came up huge, scoring a game high 33 points (12x18 fg, 3x4 3's, 6x8 ft). He had numerous drives to the basket that were quick and easy. He will be in the conversation for LIberty League Player of the Year.

Aldin Medunjanin had 13 points (6x17 fg, 0x4 3's, 1x1 ft), 8 assists, a game high 6 rebounds, a block and a steal.

Royce Paris had 12 points (4x5 fg, 4x4 ft) with 3 rebounds and 1 assist.

Plattsburgh had 38 rebounds to 29 for Skidmore. The Cardinals also committed fewer turnovers with 9 miscues to 12 for the visitors.

The Cardinals were 26x60 from the field (43.3%) and only 5x22 from behind the arc (22.7%). They had their best shooting performance from the charity stripe since Coach Curle came to Plattsburgh 14 years ago, going  29x33 (87.9%). Plattsburgh had a much better performance shooting the rock in the 2nd half after going just 11x30 from the field and 1x12 from long range in the first period.

Skidmore shot 30x62 (48.4%) from the field, 7x19 (36.8%) from long range and 11x13 (84.6%) from the line.

Plattsburgh improves to 6-1 overall (2-0 SUNYAC) and will host Geneseo, and then Brockport this coming weekend. Both the Knights and the Golden Eagles suffered losses on Tuesday night. The Geneseo game starts at 5:30 PM on Friday evening.

Skidmore falls to 5-2 overall and doesn't begin conference play until after Christmas. They will travel to Middlebury on Saturday Dec.10th to take on the Panthers at 4:00 PM.   


               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2016, 04:47:48 AM
Dec. 6  Results   

Oswego State   at  Oneonta   State     5:30 PM

The Lakers are favored here by a slim 1 point margin. I think they win by 5. 75-70. Hope I'm wrong though.

Result: I was wrong and happy to be wrong. The final score of Oneonta 73 Oswego 67 was 140 points and close to the 145 I predicted. I had a 5 point margin of victory and the actual MOV was 6.
   
Cortland State  at New Paltz State        5:30 PM

The Red Dragons win and get back into the win column in a big way. Cortland is a 12 point double digit favorite. I think they win by 20. Final score 88-68, Dragons.

Result: Cortland 77 New Paltz 68. Closer than I thought it would be. I had the Hawks total pegged exactly right. The Red Dragons continue to be a Jekyll and Hyde team. Up by 15 points at 54-39 they allow the Hawks to score 15 straight points and tie the game up. Then they open up a 10-2 run to give them the breathing room they needed to put the Hawks away. That scoring drought of over 4 minutes that allowed the Hawks to tie the game was the Mr. Hyde persona coming out, that cost me a chance at a perfect score. They shoulda had 88 points. :P


Geneseo State  at  Rochester        7:00 PM

Would love to see the Knights take down the Yellowjackets. Nothing like beating the top ranked University Athletic Association team. The oddsmakers have the Yellowjackets favored by 10. I think Ringen and Decker can keep it close but not sure they can win it. Rochester 84 Geneseo 79. Hope I'm wrong and the Knights pull it off.

Result: Unfortunately I was right about this game as Rochester won a nailbiter, 82-80. I was only 3 points off my predicted score but would have gladly hoped I was way off if the Knights had won the game. John Decker tied Palestra records for 3 pointers made with 9 in 15 attempts and the Knights tied the record for 3's attempted with 41. They made 18 of those 41 attempts. Geneseo had 3 turnovers in their last 4 possessions and their only shot at the basket in the last 1:30 of the game was a 3 point attempt with 1 second on the clock. I don 't know if it was a good shot or a desperation attempt. Decker with 38 points could have used a bit more help but still the Knights have had problems late in the game in all 3 of their losses but especially the last 2.   

   
Skidmore  at  Plattsburgh State        7:00 PM

Featured game of the night. The third meeting between these 2 teams in the last 3 years. Plattsburgh won in overtime down there 2 years ago. Plattsburgh lost down there last year. Tonight's the rubber match and we finally have them in our barn. Oddsmakers favor the Cardinals by 5 points. I have the Cardinals winning by an 85-82 final score.

Result: Cards win 86-78. Close to my prediction on both ends of the score. Happy we won the rubber match and it was a good win for our conference.   
   
Brockport State at  Hobart        8:00 PM

The Golden Eagles have won the last 2 years. Hobart last won on Dcember 2nd 2011. The Eagles are favored here by a slim 3 point margin. I think they win by more. Brockport  80 Hobart 71.

Result: Hobart 65 Brockport 52. The Golden Eagles threw me and my crystal ball a big curve on that one. I'd still take Brockport to win every time if they played the Statesmen 5 more times. Just like I'd take Plattsburgh over St. Lawrence every time. Brockport could barely hit the proverbial broad side of a barn Tuesday night going 19x61 from the field 4x19 from long range and 10x19 from the line. Only one player in double figures and he barely got there with 12 points. Port's 52 points will be a season low for them by at least a dozen markers, I think. You can't win if you don't put the ball through the hoop.
   

   
Clarkson  at  Potsdam        8:00 PM

Crosstown rivals go at it in the Bears' Den. The Knights are favored by 11 points. I think the Bears will keep it closer than that. The Bears may even pull off the upset. I said may...Clarkson 75  Potsdam 69. I hope I'm wrong.     

Result: Clarkson wins 74-59. I had the Golden Knights score almost perfect but my Alma Mater couldn't put many points on the board. It's the 2nd time in their last 3 games they failed to score at least 60 points.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2016, 10:12:00 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 06, 2016, 07:47:51 PM
Cortland 77, New Paltz 68
RDragons searching for right combinations. A. McGuire, heretofore little-used returnee but with history of being a scorer, delivers 19 points on 7x8fg, 5x6 3s. J. Cooper with matching 19 pts on 6x8fg, 7x8ft, 14 rebs. J. Prendergast with 9 pts, 5 rebs; J. Morales 9 pts. Corts pull the trigger at 51fg percent (28x54, 10x27 3s).
     D. Balducci with 24 Hawks' markers on 8x14fg, 6x13 3s, 5 rebs. N. Paquette 12 pts(4x9 3s), A. Seniuk 11 pts(5x10fg) 7 rebs; C. Garcia 7 assts, 5 rebs, 5 pf
     Cortland by 45-31 at midway stoppage. Takes charge with 18-0 run from 12:27 to 7:12 capped by McGuire trey. NP closes late to 71-66 with McGuire hoop quelling that surge. Dragons with 13 second half turnovers, 16 for the game. Bench produces 33 points


Oneonta 73, Oswego 67
RDragons up 36-26 at half and stretch to 13. Oswego within three points at 1:16 and again a bit later. L. Coleman FTs clutch for Oneonta in closing moments. M. McElroy with 1

9 pts(8x17fg) for victors whose Coleman with 17 pts(4x18fg) 13 rebs. D. Freeman with 16 pts(5x9fg, 4x4 3s). B. Sortino with 16 pts (8x17fg) for Lakers

Plattsburgh overcomes 10 point halftime deficit to beat Skidmore 86-78

Rochester edges Geneseo 82-80

Potsdam falls 74-59 to Clarkson

Brockport trails Hobart 41-30 with 11 minutes left. Port strikes for the game's first seven points but is in 23-19 halftime arrears

Jdex.  Do you, by chance, make it to either Oswego or Cortland home games?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2016, 10:54:39 AM

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Jdex.  Do you, by chance, make it to either Oswego or Cortland home games?
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Not so much any more .....those 1,200 mile post-game hauls to our Florida home are murder on us old guys!! :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 09, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
A couple of tough match-ups on Saturday.
I will start with tonight's games.

Oswego all over Fredonia before they battle with Buffalo State on Saturday.

Plattsburgh over Geneseo before they battle Brockport on Saturday. Can we get a John Ringen sighting? Magicman is he still hurt? His minutes have been very limited John Decker needs his sit kick back, in full strength in order for them to compete for the SUNYAC Title.

Brockport will take their loss to Hobart out on Potsdam. I think every team in the SUNYAC should get the tape of the Hobart game to see how to slow Brockport down.

Buffalo State all over Cortland tonight before their big match-up tomorrow against Oswego

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
Dec. 9  Back to SUNYAC action with 4 games on tap for this evening all starting at 5:30 PM

Fredonia State  at Oswego State        5:30 PM

The Blue Devils haven't fared too well against the Lakers in the past 10 years. They have played each other 18 times and Oswego holds a 15-3 edge in those games. The Lakers have won the last 4 but Fredonia did manage to defeat Oswego 3 years ago when the Blue Devils only won 3 games all season and the Lakers made the playoffs as the 4th seed. Fredonia will upset someone again this year, but I don't think it will be tonight. The Lakers are coming off a loss at Oneonta on Tuesday  and won't want anything resembling a losing streak on their record, at least not at this time. Oswego is favored by 11 points in this one but they haven't been winning games they should win by double digit margins...by double digit margins. I see this closer than the oddsmakers do. Oswgo State 76 Fredonia 68.

   
Brockport State at  Potsdam State        5:30 PM

The Bears won't get much relief this week as the Golden Eagles and then Geneseo roll into the North Country. Brockport looking to get back into the win column after an ugly loss at Hobart. The loss dumped the Eagles from the undefeated ranks and an early season battle for first place possible tomorrow with Plattsburgh, the Eagles will want to get their high octane offense back on track.

The Bears have lost 3 in a row since their lone win back on Nov. 19th, and they have all been by double digits. The oddsmakers see that trend continuing as they have made the Eagles a 15 point favorite. I hope Potsdam can keep it that close. Brockport 90 Potsdam 69.


Buffalo State  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Bengals and Red Dragons both have a loss in the conference already this year so the loser of this game will fall into the 2nd division of the YAC at least temporarily. Cortland won both meetings last year by a tota of 2 points. Yeah that's not a typo. They won in Buffalo by an 84-83 margin on a last second buzzer beating 3 pointer by JP Reagan just seconds after the Bengals had taken the lead on a jumper by Nico McLean with 8 seconds left. Cortland added insult to injury when they beat the Bengals for a 2nd time by a single point in Cortland. This time the score was 63-62 and the same culprit, JP Reagan, hit 2 free throws with 5 seconds left in the game and the Bengals last ditch effort was off the mark.

The good news for the Bengals is... JP Regan won't be around to beat them this year as he graduated. The bad news is... Cortland has a host of other players that can step in and fill his shoes. The Red Dragons though, as I mentioned earlier on these pages, have been inconsistent from game to game and even half to half. They are coming off a win against New Paltz but didn't really play well against the Hawks. They will need a much better effort if they hope to get into the win column tonight.

The Bengals haven't played since last weekend when they hosted the teams from up north. They are 5-1 and with a bit of luck could be tied for the conference lead after this weekend. They could also find themselves in 8th place with a pair of losses.

After two one point games between these clubs last season the oddsmakers have made the point spread in this game....you guessed it...one point and Buffalo State is the favored team. I think those oddsmakers also feel that without JP Reagan the Bengals will get their turn as a walkoff winner. I don't see it that way. I don't think that Buff State will need a walk off winner tonight, I see them winning a close game though by an 86-81 final score.         


   
Geneseo State  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Cardinals will have their hands full tonight as the Knights invade Memorial Hall with their talented pair of All Conference players, Justin Ringen and John Decker who were 1st and 2nd team honorees last season. Decker has been on fire this year averaging over 30 points per game, having put up numbers like 32, 41, and most recently 38 points against #11 nationally Rochester University on Tuesday night. A game where the Knights almost knocked off the UAA's top team as they led 80-78 with 1:43 to play beforelosing by a final of 82-80. So we know that Geneseo can play with anybody and they have been able to do that without the usual excellent play of Decker's backcourt mate, Ringen. Ringen had a foot injury and has not been the Justin Ringen of last year that we are used to seeing. His scoring numbers are down, as well as his shooting percentages and minutes on the floor. I expect him to be at or near the Ringen we're accustomed to seeing in tonight's game, however.

Plattsburgh rebounded from their 1 loss on the season with 3 good games in a row and their defeat of Liberty League Champion, Skidmore on Tuesday night shows their ability to overcome a deficit and turn things around, even though this is a young team. The Cardinals will be relying heavily on their triumvirate of Jon Patron, (incidentally a high school teammate of Justin Ringen) Eli Bryant, and Eric Mack. Defensive specialist Zack Coleman, will have the dubious honor of defending Decker (I'm guessing here) and if he can keep him in the low 20's that will be a good job.

The Cardinals won both meetings last year and are 7-3 in the last 10 matchups. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 9 point favorite but I think it may be a bit closer than that.  Plattsburgh wins by a final score of 87-82.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2016, 06:05:27 PM
Cortland 40, Buff St. 33 at the half . Both team lighting it up .........RDragons 7x15 in treys, Buffs 6x13. Corts put nine in the scoring column led by J. Cooper 7. BS's J. Glover with 15 pts (5x7 3s)

As disciplined a Bengals team as we've seen in past seasons .....

Plattsburgh 36, Geneseo 33 midway

Brockport 45, Potsdam 18 at half

Oswego 32, Fredonia 30 at half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 09, 2016, 07:11:41 PM
Cortland sinks Buffalo St. 91-80 at CSt, LEADING BY 22 with just under 10 minutes to play. Bengals several times get within 12 points -- at 73-61 at 7:11 and lastly at 83-71 at 3:01. Dragon J. Morales answers with 3s on the first two occasions. Buffs never close to single digits. RDragons shoot 50 percent from the field, 12x25 in 3s. BS respectable at 41 percent fg, 11x25 3s. Cortland 40-35 rebound advantage, goes 17x22ft and has 13 turnovers -- handling desperate Buff press well for the most part. Bengals 11x15 at the stripe, 10 turnovers. Crowd of over a thousand (including No. 1 Bengal rooter) tunes in on CSt 'Silent Night.'

Dragons with five scoring double figures: J. Morales 18 pts(6x12fg, 4x6 3s); J. Cooper 15 pts(4x7fg) 8 rebs; starter J. Prendergast 14 pts(7x8fg); Z. Lydon 11 pts(4x6fg); D. Hampton 10 pts(4x6fg, 2x3 3s).

Bengals M. Henry 20 pts(7x16fg) 7rebs; L. Smith 17 pts(8x13fg); J. Glover 17 pts(6x9fg, 5x8 3s); N. McLean 16 pts(6x19fg) 7 assts, 6 rebs

Geneseo 86, Plattsburgh 71, final

Oswego 70, Fredonia 64
    Sixteen lead changes with Freds last lead at 39-37 with 16:23 to go. Lakers up 60-52 at 3:19 but Devils at 60-56 on B. Hodge FTs at 1:52. OSt charges to 10 point lead with a minute left on B. Sortino FTs. Sortino in 40' stint for 26 pts(7x14fg, 3x7 3s). M. Krecko in 37' with 16 rebs, 4 blks, 16 pts(8x13fg). Fredonia does well shooting just 21x58fg, 4x17 3s. Lakers go 22x48, 7x18 3s. Devil I. Helps 16 pts(6x13fg) 6 rebs over 32'. Spare N. Johnson 11 pts, 8 rebs, 4 stls in 23'

Brockport 95, Potsdam 59
     Port settles this one quickly as Pdam guilty of 23 first half turnovers and winds up with 32. Bears 7x14fg in the first half. They actually lead 7-4 till 16-0 Brockport surge. Fourteen Eagles score and 11 play 10' or more. D. Gavin with 20 pts(7x11fg, 4x5 3s) 4 assts in 19'. C. Lylerly with 13 pts in 16'; M. Blythers 10 pts(5x6fg) 6 rebs in 14'. Eagles 48 percent fg, 12x28 3s with 20 assts. Tally 35 pts off Potsdam turnovers. Bear D. Langtry with 15 pts(6x7fg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2016, 11:25:08 PM
Decided to make the trek to Cortland today! Another tough 1 tonight. Ran into a hot (50% for the game from the field, 48% from beyond the arc) Red Dragons team. At 1 point down by 20.  Can't remember feeling this down during a game in a looong time!  Give Cortland their credit. They made their shots and free throws that they needed to make. We didnt.

Hoping that my boys are ready for Oswego Lakers tomorrow. Im gonna camp out in the 'cuse tonight and journey over to Laker Hall tomorrow. My God. My boys aint making it to the dance by winning 1 losing 1 winning 1 losing 1. That aint the recipe!

Tomorrow is critical. Need a big win.  I believe in my boys!!

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 10, 2016, 09:25:13 AM
The craziness has already begun in the SUNYAC
It's anybody's conference right now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2016, 11:28:02 AM
Geneseo State 86 Plattsburgh State 71

The final score doesn't indicate how close this game was for the first 36 minutes. It was a 2 possession game at 76-70 with 3:57 left in the game but Geneseo came down and got a layup from Jack Eisenberg to build the lead up to 8 points. The Cardinals came down, misfired, and Eisenberg was fouled. He made both free throws, the Knights had the first double digit lead of the game, and time was running out on the Cardinals. Plattsburgh came up empty the next 5 times they had the ball, as they turned it over or were throwing up shots from long distance, and the Knights increased the lead to the final 15 point margin.

Congratulations to Geneseo. They played better than Plattsburgh did, especially in the 2nd half and deserved to win this contest. I said in my earlier write up about the game, that Justin Ringen had struggled this season but I expected to see him at or near his previous All Conference form. He was all of that, as he captured scoring honors with 21 points.

If you had told me that John Decker would "only" get 16 points tonight, I would have bet that Plattsburgh would have been a double digit winner. If you told me that Plattsburgh would win the rebounding battle by a 49 to 32 margin I would have guessed that the Cardinals would have won this game by a fair margin. Instead, despite both of those stats, Plattsburgh was the double digit loser.

The game was a back and forth affair throughout most of the evening with 5 ties and 11 lead changes. The Cardinals went up early 9-4 and the Knights countered with a 14-2 run to go in front 18-11, forcing a Plattsburgh timeout. The Cards regrouped and outscored the Knights 12 -5 over the next 4 minutes to knot the score at 23 apiece with 7 minutes left in the period. The teams traded baskets for the rest of the half until Plattsburgh forged ahead by a 32-27 margin on a dunk by Eric Mack and a jumper by Eli Bryant. Justin Ringen then hit back to back 3 pointers in 29 seconds to erase that deficit and put the Knights back in front. Plattsburgh got a pair of free throws from Brandon Johnson and another dunk from the high flying Mack to go into the break up 36-33.

Plattsburgh opened the 2nd period with 3 baskets in their first 3 possessions to open up their largest lead of the game at 42-35. But once again Ringen was there with a pair of 3 pointers and when Jon Patron scored for the Cardinals, Jack Eisenberg fired up another 3 pointer for the Knights to put them in front 44-43. Zack Coleman scored on a drive for Plattsburgh for another lead change only to have Eisenberg bury another 3 ball.
John Decker would follow with a pair of fee throws and then he drained one from downtown and the Knights were up 52-47 and never trailed again. They had made five 3 pointers in 4:43 and went on to make 4 more from long range before the end of the period.

That was the story of the game. Geneseo was 12 for 26 from 3 point land (46.2%). The Cardinals were 1 for 18 (5.6%). That's a 33 point difference!!! I didn't think they could have a worse night from long range than they did in the St. Lawrence game, when they were 2x25 (8%) but they found a way. I hope those 2 games become the exception and not the rule.

The Knights placed 4 players in double figures led by Justin Ringen's 21 points (7x14 fg, 5x9 3's, 2x2 ft). He also had a game high 6 assists, with several coming from the high post to find a wide open teammate with no look passes. He added 5 rebounds and 3 steals.

John Decker had 16 points (4x10 fg, 2x4 3's, 6x6ft). He grabbed 3 boards, dished out 3 assists and had 1 steal.

Jack Eisenberg had a career high 16 points (6x10 fg, 2x4 3's, 2x2 ft), a team high 6 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Northern New York product, sophomore Jack Manke, (Ogdensburg Free Academy) had 10 points (5x7 fg) 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, and a steal.

Kevin Crockett had 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Tommy Eastman had 8 points, 2 rebounds, and 1 assist in 20 minutes off the bench, while Jordi Menkhorst added 4 points, 4 boards, an assist and a block in 17 minutes off the bench.


The Cardinals were led by Eric Mack with 15 points (6x13 fg, 0x2 3's, 3x3 ft). He had 6 rebounds, 4 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assist in 24 minutes of court time off the bench.

Ian Howard had the game's only double-double with 11 points (5x8 fg, 1x2 ft) and 10 rebounds. He added 2 steals and a block.

Jon Patron scored 8 points and had a game high 14 rebounds. He had 3 assists and a block.

Zack Coleman and Chris Middleton both had 9 points and 2 rebounds.

Brandon Johnson filled up the stat sheet with 8 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and 2 steals in 22 minutes off the bench.

Eli Bryant also had 8 points, with 4 assists 1 steal and 1 rebound.

Isaiah Hill contributed 3 points, 5 rebounds, and 1 assist in 12 minutes of court time. 

The Knights shot      30x61 49.2% fg   12x26 46.2% 3's   14x18 77.8% ft
Plattsburgh shot       29x76 38.2% fg   1x18 5.6% 3's           12x17 70.6% ft

The Cardinals had the big edge in rebounding as mentioned 49-32 but lost the ball 17 times to 12 for the visitors.

Geneseo improves to 5-3 overall and 2-1 in the YAC. They travel over to Potsdam to face the Bears this afternoon at 2:00 PM.

Plattsburgh falls to 6-2 overall and is also 2-1 in the conference. The Cardinals will host first place Brockport State this afternoon at 2 PM and will look to create the possibility of a 6 way tie for first place in the conference.                           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2016, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 10, 2016, 09:25:13 AM
The craziness has already begun in the SUNYAC
It's anybody's conference right now.

Well said. Heck, if the Cards beat Brockport tonight then there will be no undefeated teams in the Yac with less than a quarter of the conference season completed!  First place could possibly have 4 losses, minimum, by playoff time!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2016, 12:32:31 PM
Dec. 10  All 10 teams in action today in the YAC

There are some interesting possibilities because of the records and the way the teams match up. It's possible (and not that big a stretch) that there could be a 6 way tie for 1st place at the end of the afternoon with all 6 teams having a 3-1 record. First and foremost, Plattsburgh needs to beat conference leader Brockport, for that to have any chance of happening. A Golden Eagle win assures them of sole possession of first place. So then, if the Cardinals do their part and if Oswego beats Buffalo State, Cortland beats Fredonia, Oneonta beats New Paltz, and Geneseo defeats Potsdam all six teams would end the day with 3-1 records. With the selections my crystal ball will be predicting I think there will be 5 teams tied for 1st place at the end of the day. (So I just gave away who I think will win the Brockport-Plattsburgh game but I don't think I surprised anyone. ???)        

Pressed for time just some quick picks today. I hate these 2 o'clock games and 5:30 games.

   
Buffalo State 1-2  5-2 at  Oswego State 2-1  6-3        2:00 PM

Bengals don't want or need a lost weekend. A loss here could be devastating. The Lakers have been playing just well enough to win. but i think their luck runs out here. The Lakers are favored by a single point. Teams have split the past few years, each winning at home. I'm taking the Bengals to mix things up and win on the road by a 79-75 final score.

   
Oneonta State 2-1  3-4  at  New Paltz State  0-3  1-7     2:00 PM

These Red Dragons will defeat their travel partners by the established point spread which is 11 points. Oneonta 80 New Paltz 69


Geneseo State  2-1  5-3  at  Potsdam State  0-3  1-6        2:00 PM

The Knights look to go 2-0 on their trip north. Oddsmakers have them as a 12 point favorite. That's not enough. Decker and Ringen both light it up today for the first time all year. Geneseo 88 Potsdam 70.   


Fredonia State 1-2  3-5  at  Cortland State 2-1  5-2        2:00 PM

Blue Devils played Oswego tough and could cause problems here. Notice I said could. Oddsmakers have them as 10 point dogs. Cortland should win by 14. Unless Mr Hyde shows up. Red Dragons  win 78-64. 

Featured Game of the Week

Brockport State 3-0  7-1  at  Plattsburgh State 2-1  6-2        2:00 PM

Always a battle when these two teams get together and usually a barnburner as well. No reason to think today's game will be any different. Home court means nothing as each team has win on the other team floor numerous time in the past decade and did so last year. The oddsmakers had Plattsbugh as a 6 point favorite yesterday but overnight the line has dropped to 4 points based on Friday's results. I'm going with the Cardinals but know that anything can happen in this one. Plattsburgh 86 Brockport 83.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 10, 2016, 01:23:45 PM
The Featured game of the week should be a track meet.
Magicman how did Hobart slow down Brockport, I hope you gave Coach Curle the tape of that game.
Plattsburgh in a barn burner over Brockport

Buffalo State over Oswego
Cortland over Fredonia
My Oneonta Red Dragons all over New Paltz
Geneseo over Potsdam, Good to see Justin Ringen come alive last night.

You've gotta love the SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 10, 2016, 02:58:56 PM
Cortland runs away from visiting Fredonia 96-64. RDragons lead by 37 at one stage after building 47-31 halftime margin. J. Morales with 20 pts(6x12fg, 4x6 3s) in 24' stint heads Cortland scoring. Cooper with 16 pts(6x10fg) 7 rebs, 5 assts in 22'; C. Joseph 13 pts(5x8fg, 3x6 3s) in 22'; N. Bonura 10 pts(3x5fg, 3x4 3s) in 18'. M. Kelly -- the lone senior, 10 pts(4x6fg, 2x4 3s) in 17'. Dragons 34x71fg, 14x33 3s. Use entire 18 man roster extensively. R. DeLaCruz 19 pts (7x13fg) for Devils

Brockport 94, Plattsburgh 88. Port keeps its perch atop the conference in slam-bang affair (5 techs, 26 pf each side). Comes from five points back at the break. Tense final period for sure where majority of contest's 14 ties and 11 lead changes occurred. C. Middleton hoop with 8:38 left provides Burgh 77-73 lead. Last in front 77-76 at 8:13 as C. Torres FTs get reversal in Bport favor at 78-77 at 7:48. Cardinal E. Mack FTs at 3:40 make it 86-86 and hosts don't score again till Mack tipin at 0:07. Port's J. Summers' bucket at 3:33 provides 88-86 lead. Eagles score again at 0:47,  0:30, 0:22 and 0:07.
    C. Lylerly tops Brockport with 28 pts(9x17fg, 3x4 3s, 7x9ft) 5 rebs in 32'. H. Shamseldin with 24 pts(7x22fg, 3x6 3s, 7x9ft) 7 assts; Summers 22 pts(10x14fg) 10 rebs in 26'; C. Torres 12 pts(3x6fg, 5x8ft) 5 rebs in 25'. Eagles 32x77fg, 7x17 3s .....23x33ft .....11 turnovers, 41 rebs
    Burgh loses J. Patron (13 pts on 5x14fg with 7 rebs in 22') and E. Bryant (9 pts, 6 assts in 27') to fouls. E. Mack off the bench for 24 pts(7x14fg, 9x11ft) in 30'; Middleton 16 pts(5x10fg) 9 rebs in 31' Cards 26x70fg, 5x23 3s ...... 31x37ft ....21 TOs, 50 rebs

Oswego nips Buff St 71-70 on B. Sortino left-wing 3-pointer with 12-seconds left. BS misses two FT at 0:01. Sortino with 21 pts (7x18fg, 4x6 3s) 4 assts in another 40' effort. M. Henry layup at 0:16 had lifted Bengals to 70-68 lead. Lakers up 35-25 with 2:37 left in the opening half. Buffs strike for 10 unanswered points -- five from Z. Ciezki, for 35-35 knot at half. Bengal momentum continues for 47-43 lead with 14:24 showing. Oswego regains balance and K. Tyson trey holds 55-50 control at 9:01. Matters tighten. Sortino jumper gives Lakers 67-66 edge at 3:00. Bengal J. Spence responds at 1:11. OSt's M. Krecko FT ties it at 68 at 0:47 to set up final drama.
     Tyson with 23 pts(9x13fg, 2x3 3s) 6 rebs for Lakers. J. Ferebee 14 pts(6x7fg); Krecko 6 blks, 15 rebs, 5th pf at 0:01. OSt 27x54fg. Bengal L. Smith 31 pts(14x19fg) 8 rebs in 36'; N. McLean 11 pts, 6 rebs. BS 26x65fg

Geneseo 88, Potsdam 78 with host Bears hanging tough. Down just 62-59 with 9:48 to play. Knights then get a bit of comfort. J. Decker shows his wares in 29 pt(9x19fg, 6x11 3s) 6 assts, 4 reb style in 35'. J. Ringen over 23' nets 7 pts(3x9fg, 1x6 3s) 6 rebs while T. Eastman off the sidelines connects for 10 pts in 21'. Main Bear hand tis N. Onabor whose 28 pts(10x20fg, 4x10 3s) 6 assts comes in 33'

Oneonta 88, New Paltz 72. RDragon M. McElroy drops 30 pts(10x14fg, 10x12ft) in 34' on the Hawks who appear to play with short bench (4 spares see action). Oneonta lands FG at 56 percentile (34x60, 2x10 3s) and outbounds host 52-32. L. Coleman with 15 pts(6x9fg) 13 rebs; F. Kelly 15 pts, 6 assts; J. Kolosky 14 pts(7x10fg) 6 rebs. Narrow halftime lead swells quickly and Dragons hover around 10 point advantage. NP twice makes six point threats, though Kelly and McElroy FTs prove spoilers. OSt pulls away in final minutes. Hawks 28x60fg, 6x14 3s. A. Seniuk 16 pts(6x11fg, 3x3 3s) 6 rebs in 37'. C. Garcia 13 pts, M. Seela 12 pts
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
Days like today make me want to just cry!  And cry, not for me, but for the heart that these BENGALS have to fight to the bitter end and come up empty in such a heart wrenching way! No other way to describe the feeling after watching my BENGALS fight back vs Oswego and have a chance to win with 2 free throws with less than a second on the clock! On any day I'll take Mike Henry at the line with 2 free throws to win it it. Any day. Today it just wasn't to be! I still love the kid!

Give Oswego credit!  Sortino comes up with the dagger ( 3 pointer with less tha 11 seconds left ) and the Lakers win by 1. The BENGALS 7 missed free throws for the game and a couple of missed lay ups too all add up when you lose by 1 point!

Here's to hoping that the boys get this game behind them quickly,  get ready for thier exams, and then enjoy some Florida sun next weekend for thier next 2 games in Miami. Heck I could use some Florida sun myself after seeing all the snow in cortland and Oswego! Hmmmm let me check on those southwest flights to ft lauderdale while I'm thinking about this sun! I could use some sun myself. Maybe even run into jdex!!! ;)

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 11, 2016, 01:00:36 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 10, 2016, 01:23:45 PM
The Featured game of the week should be a track meet.
Magicman how did Hobart slow down Brockport, I hope you gave Coach Curle the tape of that game.
Plattsburgh in a barn burner over Brockport

Buffalo State over Oswego
Cortland over Fredonia
My Oneonta Red Dragons all over New Paltz
Geneseo over Potsdam, Good to see Justin Ringen come alive last night.

You've gotta love the SUNYAC

All-time.  On behalf of my BENGALS, we really appreciate your belief in us.  Here's to hoping that sooner than later you will be rewarded for that belief.  Been a rough start in a tough conference however we all knew that the SUNYAC was a tough conference.  No excuses for our record and I wouldn't disrespect these boards with any. Fact is is that we've been bested by Plattsburgh, Cortland and Oswego in 3 of our first 4 conference games.  We've got 3 weeks to get ready for a return visit to Potsdam ( who have been playing better) and Plattsburgh and then we have Brockport twice in 5 days! By Jan 14th we will know what we are truly made of! Contenders or pretenders?!?! 

I'm betting that we will be contenders!  I truly believe that we will be contenders!  Have faith!

I too truly love the SUNYAC!  There is no better conference in the east ( Massey agrees) and the Yac helps prepare you for NCAA play! I believe that my boys will be in the fight come late February!

P.s. I got my plane ticket for Florida ( Jdex where are you???)

Go BENGALS!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 12, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule link=topic=625.msg1779276#msg1779276 date=14814792
P.s. I got my plane ticket for Florida ( Jdex where are you???)
/quote]

Still a haul ......like three hours to the west coast & sunny/warm Sarasota/Bradenton. After taking in some of your Bills' game --- dreamin' of a white Christmas -- can see why you wish to get out of Dodge!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 12, 2016, 03:25:06 PM
Bengalsrule,
We are only 4 games into the season, there is plenty of time for you guys to get it together.
A little Florida sun this time of year can do wonders.
Safe Travels and enjoy the warm sunny weather   8-)

My Oneonta Red Dragons are the real deal this season.
Coach Conover has them playing well. It doesn't hurt to have McElroy, Coleman, Kolosky and Kelly to lead the charge.

Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2016, 08:51:36 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 12, 2016, 03:25:06 PM
Bengalsrule,
We are only 4 games into the season, there is plenty of time for you guys to get it together.
A little Florida sun this time of year can do wonders.
Safe Travels and enjoy the warm sunny weather   8-)

My Oneonta Red Dragons are the real deal this season.
Coach Conover has them playing well. It doesn't hurt to have McElroy, Coleman, Kolosky and Kelly to lead the charge.

Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas and a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.

My man.  Appreciate that. And you are right. Cam is doing what many of us, around the Yac, expected. He has turned Oneonta into a winner!  Can't help but be happy for the guy!  Hoping the best for him ( except on Jan 20th and February 3rd ;D). His game in early jan vs Williams can be a major lift to the SUNYAC!  A victory by them, and Plattsburgh ( vs Trinity and Middlebury), could very well be the Yacs last chance at improving the conferences multi NCAA bid opportunities!

Last, but not least, here's to wishing you and the family the happiest of holidays and a prosperous 2017!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2016, 08:56:34 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 12, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule link=topic=625.msg1779276#msg1779276 date=14814792
P.s. I got my plane ticket for Florida ( Jdex where are you???)
/quote]

Still a haul ......like three hours to the west coast & sunny/warm Sarasota/Bradenton. After taking in some of your Bills' game --- dreamin' of a white Christmas -- can see why you wish to get out of Dodge!

You've got a couple of Yac teams in Florida this month!  Maybe you can go cheer on the aforementioned Oneonta Red Dragons in Daytona Beach (Dec 28-29th)! Temp here is dropping to zero Thursday!  Hard to imagine wearing Bermuda shorts 48 hrs later!

Must be nice to have that option year around! I envy you!!  Enjoy!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2016, 12:11:30 AM
SUNYAC Player of the Week is no surprise as John Decker continues to have one big game after another. This was his 2nd POTW this season as he won the honor 2 weeks ago. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week - John Decker, Geneseo
(Sr., G - Lincolndale, N.Y.)
Decker averaged 27.7 points and shot 56.7% from 3-point range in a three-game week for the Knights that included a pair of SUNYAC road wins. He started by tying a 10-year old school record by hitting nine three-pointers en route to 38 points in an 82-80 setback at No. 11 Rochester on Tuesday. He then followed up a 16-point effort in a 86-71 victory at Plattsburgh on Friday with a 29-point, six-assist showing in a 88-78 win at Potsdam on Saturday. Decker currently ranks third nationally with 30.1 points per game and second with 5.14 three-pointers made per game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2016, 01:38:30 PM
The D3hoops Top 25 Week #3 poll has been released.

Rochester is the only East Region team in the Top 25 as they move up 4 spots from #11 to #7. Their point total increased from 358 to 456. They remain undefeated at 10-0 as they beat Union College Monday night by a 77-58 final score. Geneseo almost bumped them off last Tuesday losing in the Palestra 82-80.


Brockport is the only other East Region team getting any points as they received 17 points that would put them in the #39 spot. They increased their total from 11 points they got last week.

Here's a link to the complete Top 25: http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2016-17/week3

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on December 13, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
Magic... play detective if necessary... why was Mount St Mary at New Paltz postponed?  It was scheduled for today, was actually postponed yesterday... neither schools' site offers an explanation...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: d3d3d3 on December 13, 2016, 05:46:49 PM
Best guess for the New Paltz situation is ... mumps. An outbreak began with the swim team back in October. And according to this story, students aren't interested in free vaccinations:

http://www.recordonline.com/article/20161211/NEWS/161219914/-1/RSS777
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2016, 07:50:01 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 13, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
Magic... play detective if necessary... why was Mount St Mary at New Paltz postponed?  It was scheduled for today, was actually postponed yesterday... neither schools' site offers an explanation...

I have a connection who knows the father of a Mount St. Mary's player. He's looking into it for me. d3d3d3's post on the mumps and subsequent link could be the reason though. I also visited both websites earlier looking for an answer, where both, as you mentioned say nothing. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 13, 2016, 09:39:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 13, 2016, 07:50:01 PM
Quote from: hopefan on December 13, 2016, 04:05:47 PM
Magic... play detective if necessary... why was Mount St Mary at New Paltz postponed?  It was scheduled for today, was actually postponed yesterday... neither schools' site offers an explanation...

I have a connection who knows the father of a Mount St. Mary's player. He's looking into it for me. d3d3d3's post on the mumps and subsequent link could be the reason though. I also visited both websites earlier looking for an answer, where both, as you mentioned say nothing.

hopefan,
d3d3d3 guess was right, the definitive answer is the MUMPS caused the cancellation of the New Paltz-Mount St. Mary game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2016, 05:55:38 AM
Snowstorms, broken down plow truck, Christmastime at my store. Too many things to do, not enough time to do them. Wanted to do a breakdown of the Plattsburgh State-Brockport State game and time became an issue. Well, better late than never. So here goes.

Brockport 94  Plattsburgh  88

You always get your money's worth when these teams go at it. Last Saturday was no exception. I told the retired sports editor of the local newspaper that if we could hold Clifton Lyerly and Hamed Shamseldin to somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 points we stood a good chance to win the game. If they got 50 between them, which I thought they might, then we were probably in trouble.

The first half was a highly contested affair with both teams taking turns on the lead. The teams were tied 6 times in the first 12 minutes and had an equal number of lead changes. After 12 minutes had gone by the teams had combined for a total of 39 points, as Plattsburgh used two free throws from Eric Mack to tie the contest at 19 each and then go ahead 20-19. The final 8 minutes saw an eruption of 50 points from the 2 teams as the Cardinals behind Mack gradually forged into the largest lead of the game. When freshman Nick DeAngelis made a pair of free throws, Plattsurgh had a 10 point 38-28 advantage with 4:38 left in the period.

Shamseldin made a layup and hit 2 from the stripe to close within 6 points, but Mack got an offensive rebound and a putback dunk, followed by a pair from the line by Brandon Johnson to put the Cards back up by 10 points. A little later the Eagles got 5 quick points from Cordell Torres to once again get within 2 points but  Plattsburgh hit a few more free throws to go into the locker room up by 5 at 37-32.

Hamed Shamseldin wasted little time when play resumed as he scored the first 5 points in the half to knot things up once again. 6 more ties and 5 more lead changes took place as neither team could gain a two possession lead until Brockport forged ahead at 71-67 on the strength of 8 points from Shamseldin and 6 points from Brockport's future, freshman Justin Summers. Plattsburgh came right back with a 10-2 burst led by 6 points from Chris Middleton and they took their first 2 possession lead since the period started, at 77-73. The Golden Eagles would have none of that, however, as Lyerly drained a three pointer, Torres made 2 from the line, Shamseldin hit a jumper, and Torres scored to reel off 9 unanswered points and move back on top 82-77 with 6 and a half minutes left to play. Down the stretch they came. Eric Mack slammed one down for the Cardinals. Justin Summers did the same for the Eagles. Eli Bryant buried a 3 ball to cut the lead once more but Shamseldin made a pair from the stripe and the Eagles were in front 86-82 with 5 minutes to go.

Ian Howard drove to the hoop and scored for the Cardinals. Eric Mack made a pair from the line and the game was tied once more with 3:40 left but it would be the last time the 2 teams were even. Brockport got a layup from their fab freshman, Summers, and the teams then went over 2 minutes with nothing but missed opportunities. Together they missed 7 shots from the field and 4 free throws. Summers ended the scoring drought when he made 1 of 2 from the line with 47 seconds left to make it an 89-86 Brockport lead. Plattsburgh needed to score on their possession and when they missed inside, Ian Howard was called for a foul that was one of the many questionable calls that took place in this game. The Plattsburgh bench argued the call and then was assessed a technical foul. With 4 attempts coming the Eagles only needed to make 2 of them to get a two possession lead and take control of the game. Up 91-86, Plattsburgh misfired on a 3 pointer and had to foul. Brockport closed them out with 3 of 4 from the line.

Clifton Lyerly and Hamed Shamseldin scored 52 points between them. Lyerly had 28 and Shamseldin had 24. They both had 3 triples and both went 7x9 from the line. Lyerly had 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a block. Shamseldin had 3 rebounds and 7 assists.

The new kid on the block was Justin Summers. The 6'5" freshman from New York City had a big game with 22 points and a game high 10 rebounds, both career highs, to complete his first double-double in a Brockport uniform. He was 10x14 from the field, also topping the charts in shooting percentage.

Cordell Torres had 12 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Matt Smith only scored 2 points but filled up the stat sheet with 5 rebounds, 5 steals, 4 assists and a block.

Plattsburgh got another big game from Eric Mack as he came off the bench and scored 24 points. He added 4 rebounds, 3 blocks and 1 assist.

Chris Middleton just missed a double-double as he had 16 points and a team high 9 rebounds.

Jon Patron added 13 points and 7 rebounds.

Brandon Johnson had 8 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.

Ian Howard had 6 points, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist.


Brockport improves to 8-1 overall and is in sole possession of first place in the SUNYAC with a 4-0 record. They will be off until the New Year arrives when they will travel to Pittsburgh on January 2nd to take on the Carnegie Mellon Tartans at 3:00 PM

Plattsburgh drops to 6-3 overall and 2-2 in the YAC. They will return to action on January 3rd when they travel to Hartford Connecticut to take on Trinity College at 5:00 PM.
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2016, 03:12:02 PM
Dec. 17    Two YAC teams in action today 

Cortland State  at  St. John Fisher      3:00 PM  Featured Game of the Week

The Red Dragons are slight underdogs in this matchup as it's hard to beat Fisher at home. The point spread favors the Cardinals by a 5 point margin. I'm taking Cortland and hope they are hitting their outside shots today. Fisher's Keegan Ryan from my hometown will be a load inside. Final score Cortland 82 Fisher 78.

 
Potsdam State  at   Nazareth      4:00 PM   Lycoming Crosstown Challenge @ Williamsport, Pa.

The Bears have their work cut out for them against the Golden Flyers in this one. Naz already owns a victory over Oswego State. The oddsmakers have made the Bears a 15 point underdog. That sounds about right.... Nazareth 84 Potsdam 67. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 17, 2016, 03:44:42 PM
Cortland 42, St. John Fisher 37 at the half

Fisher up by seven ......Corts' M. Kelly supplies offensive lift with five minutes left to lead RDragons to their widest lead of seven. J. Morales with 13 Cortland points on 5x7fg, 3x4 3s. T. English with 10 Fisher marks. Pburgh favorite son K. Ryan being held pretty much in check thus far. Both sides pulling 3-pt trigger mucho --- Dragons 7x20, Cards 4x16

This game shifts to 3 p.m. tip

Guess we'll let Magic tell the story!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
Cortland leads St. John Fisher 42-37 at the half.

James Morales with 13 points and Michael Kelly with 9 for the Red Dragons. Carrel Joseph with 5 boards.

Tyler English with 10 points to lead the Cardinals. Sammy Robinson with 9 and Keegan Ryan with 8 points and 6 rebounds.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 17, 2016, 04:44:14 PM

Cortland 79, St. John Fisher 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2016, 11:09:33 PM
Nazareth defeats Potsdam State by a final score of 87-79.

The Bears hung tough and were still in this game with 5 minutes to go. Down by a single point at 67-66 after Jayquan Thomas made a pair of free throws, Potsdam picked a bad time to cool off. The Golden Flyers got a jumper from Tyler Stenglein, and after a Potsdam turnover, Stenglein nailed a 3 pointer and in the space of 30 seconds the lead went from 1 point to 6. Shortly after that Stenglein made a 3 point play with a hoop and harm to stretch the lead to 8 points.Thomas scored 10 points for the Bears in the final 2 minutes but Nazareth hit 10 of 12 from the line in that span to close out Potsdam.

Potsdam got a big game from Jayquan Thomas, the game's high scorer with 33 points, as he was 12x16 from the field and 9x9 from the line. He added 4 rebounds and 4 steals.

Serigne Kane had 14 points, 8 rebounds and a block.

Nosa Onabor dropped in 13 points, with 2 steals, 2 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.

Nazareth had 5 players hit double figures led by Tyler Stenglein with 18 points and 7 rebounds. Cody Green had 16 points. Jake Burgio had 15 points and 6 rebounds. Josh Gillard had 12 points and 5 rebounds.
Brendan Wind had 11 points and 7 assists.

Nazareth improves to 5-3 and will return to action on January 4th against Hilbert at 8:00 PM.

The Bears fall to 1-8 overall and 0-4 in the conference. The road doesn't get any easier for Potsdam as tomorrow they will play the host school in this 3 team tournament, Lycoming College. The Warriors played Nazareth on Friday and defeated the Golden Flyers 86-78. That's pretty close to what the score was of today's game between Potsdam and Naz. Lycoming opened the season with an 80-66 win over Fredonia.

The Bears will be at least a 20 point underdog in tomorrow's contest, which will tip off at 1:00 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2016, 04:17:05 AM
Dec. 18  Two games on tap today for SUNYAC teams.   

Potsdam State  at  Lycoming     1:00 PM    Lycoming Crosstown Challenge @ Williamsport, Pa.

Lycoming, a school in the Middle Atlantic Conference-Commonwealth Division, is 9-1 with their only defeat a 75-74 loss, coming at the hands of Susquehanna (7-1) who is the #18th ranked team in D3hoops Top 25.  Lycoming is currently getting 27 points in the Others Receiving Votes category which puts them in the #32 spot. If they had won that game against Susquehanna they would be undefeated and probably in the Top 25. They return just about everyone from an NCAA team of a year ago. They own wins over Fredonia and Nazareth, two teams that have already beaten Potsdam.

The oddsmakers have made Lycoming a 24 point favorite. It will be tough for the Bears to beat that spread. The Warriors win this one 92-70.


Buffalo State vs Eastern Connecticut    6:00 PM  Holiday Shootout @ Miami, Florida

Interesting matchup between 2 schools that should both compete for playoff spots in their respective conferences. Also note that both SUNYAC schools today, are playing teams with the same nickname. Eastern Connecticut is also called the Warriors. These Warriors have played against the SUNYAC in 6 games over the past 5 years compiling a 4-2 record. They have wins in the regular season against New Paltz (twice) and Oneonta (once) and beat Oswego in double overtime in the NCAA tournament back on March 3rd 2012. They lost to the Bengals in a holiday tournament several years ago on Decemeber 21st, 2012 by an 89-85 final score. Plattsburgh State beat them in the NCAA playoffs 80-70 on March 8th 2014, which is the last time they played a team from the YAC.

They come into this game with a 4-4 record, but all 4 losses have been to teams with winning records. They have lost to WPI (7-2), Middlebury (7-1), Williams (8-1) and Connecticut College (7-1). If you're counting, that's a combined 29-5 record.

The Bengals with a 5-3 record, have all their losses to teams with winning records also. Plattsburgh, Oswego and Cortland have beaten the Bengals but every one of those games could easily have went in the other direction.

The oddsmakers have made the Warriors a slim 2 point favorite on a neutral court. They like to play an up tempo game. That should fit right in with what the Bengals want to do. Get out your PF Flyers, this one will be a track meet. I'm taking Buffalo State to get to the finish line first. Bengals 93 Warriors 87.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2016, 04:56:04 PM
Potsdam State loses to Lycoming 86-64.

I  was close with my 92-70 prediction of a Lycoming win and my 22 point MOV was right on as the Bears managed to beat the oddsmakers point spread.

Potsdam hung with the Warriors through the midway point of the first half and were tied with the hosts at 15 apiece with 11 minutes to play. A 9-0 run put Lycoming up 24-15 but the Bears scored 6 straight points to narrow the gap to 24-21 with 8:11 to go. The Warriors then used a 16-2 outburst over the next 6+ minutes to basically put the game away. They increased their lead to 17 points and were up 40-23 with 1:42 left in the period. They carried a 15 point lead into the break, up 44-29.

The Bears needed to cut into that deficit quickly in the 2nd half  to have a chance at a win. Unfortunately it was the Warriors who put the first 5 points on the board and the lead was 20 at 49-29. it only got worse from there. Lycoming, up 49-34, put together a 25-4 run and the lead was a game high 36 points, with 10:47 to go at 74-38. The benches were emptied and the Bears cut the final margin to 22.

Serigne Kane led the Bears with 16 points and a game high 9 rebounds.

Dante Langley had 13 points and 5 rebounds.

The Bears fall to 1-9 and will return to action on January 6th when they host Buffalo State at 5:30 PM.

Lycoming had 4 players in double figures led by Nyk King with a game high 17 points and TJ Duckett with 14. The Warriors are now 10-1 for the season.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2016, 07:23:45 PM
Trying to watch the Buffalo State-Eastern Connecticut game on a video link provided by Eastern University. There is no announcer, or sound of any kind. Just complete silence. It looks like Buffalo State is winning but since there is no onscreen score I have no way of knowing who is ahead. In fact I have no idea how much time is left and even if it's the first half or the second. You would think that during a time out the camera operator would flash to a close up of the scoreboard. But then, that would make sense and apparently the guy handling the camera doesn't have that attribute. I've been watching for 20 minutes and not a single glimpse of the scoreboard other than a blurry long distance shot as the teams run up and down the court. And wow are they running up and down the court. It is a track meet as I suggested it would be.

I can see what looks like a 50 something to 40 something score with the Bengals being the one with the 50's.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2016, 07:33:35 PM
Just saw the Bengals Mike Henry make a free throw and the scoreboard turned into what looks like 60. Then the Bengals got a couple of baskets and I could see that they went to 62 then 64. Eastern Connecticut scored and they went to 51.  Watched for a few more minutes and the score at this point is 66-56 with the Bengals up by 10. No idea of course how much time is left. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2016, 07:42:01 PM
Went to the Bengals website and found a link for live stats. Didn't think there was a live stats link since the D3hoop scoreboard only showed a video link.

Bengals up 74-66 with only 29 seconds left to play. Time to light the victory cigar.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2016, 07:48:13 PM
Buffalo State 76 Eastern Connecticut 68 final score

The final score was below the projections I had for two teams that love to run up and down the court about as fast as you can. I had Buffalo State winning this one by 6 points and they won by 8. That part of my prediction was pretty close. If the teams had played the first half like they played the 2nd half, my prediction of a 93-87 Buff State win would have been right on. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it)

Neither team put up big numbers in the first half as the Bengals came out of the gate slowly and fell behind the Warriors 10-2 over the first few minutes of the game. They trailed by double digits, 22-10, with 11:11 left in the half after the Warriors' Hugh Lindo got a breakaway dunk off a Bengal turnover and then Lindo followed that up with a layup after Buff State missed on their end. The Bengals finally woke up with a 14-2 run, fueled by 4 points from Jordan Chateau, 5 points from Dom Grayer and 4 points from Lovell Smith. His steal and dunk at 6:46 tied the game for the first time. Three ties and three lead changes would take place in the final few minutes  of the half and it was the Bengals who were in front when the buzzer sounded. Chateau had a dunk to tie the game at 30 and Smith followed that act with a another dunk. Mike Henry scored on a layup to extend the lead to 4 points, 34-30.

After working so hard to get the lead the Bengals weren't about let the Warriors regain the advantage.  They maintained their cushion and up by 5 at 42-37, they got back to back 3 pointers from Grayer and Jordan Glover to give them their first double digit lead. Henry added a layup and the score was 50-37 with 14:35 to go. Several times the Warriors would get it back to single digits but the Bengals were there on each occasion  to build it up again. Up by 7 points after a Warrior attempt to come back, Buff State got another trifecta from Grayer, a layup from Smith, a free throw from Henry and a dunk by Chateau. Henry and Smith then got layups inside and the lead was 15 points at 66-51, the largest of the game.

The Warrior weren't done, though and they outscored Buff State 13-4 over the next 3 minutes to cut that lead to a 2 possession game at 70-64 with 2:10 left in the game. The Bengals went 4 for 4 on two trips to the line that sandwiched a layup from Chateau to hold the Warriors at bay.

Jordan Chateau came off the bench to lead the Bengals with a game high 19 points (8x11 fg, 3x5 ft) and a team high 10 rebounds to claim his 2nd double-double of the season. The "Big House" also had 3 blocks in 28 minutes of court time.

Dom Grayer also came of the bench to score 19 points (5x10 fg, 4x7 3's, 5x7 ft) with 3 rebounds and 2 assists, in 25 minutes on the floor.

Lovell Smith had 15 points (6x14 fg, 3x4 ft), 8 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Mike Henry also had 15 points (7x14 fg, 9x4 3's, 1x3 ft), 6 steals and 3 rebounds.

Jordan Glover had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 points, and 2 steals.

Buffalo State improves to 6-3 overall (1-3 YAC) and will take on the  Alvernia Crusdaders from the Middle Atlantic Conference-Commonwealth Division (MACC) on Monday afternoon at 4:00 PM. Alvernia is currently 5-3 overall and just lost a close game to the team Potsdam played earlier on Sunday, Lycoming College by an 86-85 score.

Eastern Connecticut had 3 players score in double figures led by Tarchee Brown with 18 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

David Canny had 17 points, 4 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Hugh Lindo had a double-double of 16 points and a game high 14 rebounds. He added 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.

The Warriors fall to 4-5 on the year and will play Eastern University on Monday evening at 8:00 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2016, 02:08:17 AM
Saturday December 17th Cortland State 79  St. John Fisher 69

Not far off from my prediction of an 82-78 Cortland victory.

Cortland had several early leads, but it was the Cardinals that would open up the biggest lead in the first half as they broke an 8-8 tie with a 13-6 burst that had them in front 21-14 with 8 minutes gone in the period. 5 points each from James Morales and Andre Hampton kept the Red Dragons close and then back to back layups from Mike Kelly got them even with Fisher at 32 each with 5 and a half minutes to play. Kelly continued his one man run as he made it 9 straight Cortland points with another layup and a 3 pointer on their next 2 possessions. Suddenly the Red Dragons were in front by 5 points and they never trailed for the rest of the game. They traded  baskets with the Cardinals and went into the locker room up 42-37 at the half.

Cortland scored first in the 2nd half on a three point play by Justin Cooper and the Red Dragons maintained at least a 2 possession edge for the next 14 minutes of play. Fisher made a move when they were down 63-55 and a 10-4 spurt brought them back within 2 points at 67-65 with 6:44 to go. Two free throws from James Morales and a 3 pointer from Andre Hampton built it back to a 3 possession lead at 72-65. The teams traded layups and then the Cardinals missed their next two shots. They followed that with 2 turnovers and now with under a minute to go, the Cardinals had to foul. Cortland made 5 of 6 down the stretch to make the final score a 10 point margin.

Justin Cooper had a double -double with a game high 20 points (5x11 fg, 2x4 3's, 8x9 ft), and a game high 12 rebounds. He also added a game high 5 assists. It was his 5th double-double of the season.

James Morales equaled the game high of 20 points (7x14 fg, 3x7 3's, 3x6). He added 4 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 assists, and a block.

Andre Hampton had 13 points (4x5 fg, 3x4 3's, 2x2 ft) and 6 rebounds off the bench in 17 minutes on the floor.

Mike Kelly had 11 points (5x8 fg, 1x3 3's), 2 rebounds and a steal.

Zach Lydon had 7 points, 3 rebounds and 3 blocks in 16 minutes off the bench.


Keegan Ryan led St. John Fisher with 17 points and 9 rebounds.

Sammy Robinson had 11 points and Tyler English had 10.

Cortland improves to 7-2 overall (3-1 YAC) and will return to action against Widener University of the MACC conference in the opening round of the Johns Hopkins Blue Jay Invitational on Monday, January 2, at 1 p.m. in Baltimore. Widener will be the 3rd different team from that conference to play a SUNYAC  team this season. Lycoming (Potsdam and Fredonia twice) and Alvernia (Buffalo State on Monday 12-19) are the other two teams from the MACC to play YAC teams.

St. John Fisher falls to 4-3 and will return to action when they host Colby-Sawyer College on December 29th at 8:00 PM.   


     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2016, 02:30:15 AM
Quality win today for my beloved BENGALS. Especially after starting out in a double digit hole! Alvernia on tap for tomorrow (actually later on today).  Would have posted earlier but this 84 degree weather is hard to ignore just so I can go inside and post ( ergo the 2:28 a m post)!!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2016, 02:33:26 AM
Monday Dec. 19  Just a single game involving a SUNYAC team today.
   
Buffalo State vs Alvernia        4:00 PM   Miami Shootout @ Miami, Fla.

The Bengals try and make it two for two in sunny Florida. I hope that the coaches didn't allow those young fellows to party too much after their victory yesterday over Eastern Connecticut.

Alvernia is from the MACC conference and last year they were the regular season champs. This year they are 5-3 and their 3 losses are by a total of 9 points. They are a solid team and should give the Bengals a battle. They have 4 players averaging double figures and in their last game they gave up a 3 point lead to Lycoming and then turned the ball over when they had a chance to win it with the last possession.

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a slim 1 point favorite in this one. I'm taking the Bengals to keep their road record in holiday tournaments alive. Buffalo State 83 Alvernia 77.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 19, 2016, 11:34:42 AM
See what a little Florida Sun can do  8-)
Keep it going today Bengals
Enjoy the beautiful weather, it's cold in NY.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 19, 2016, 11:34:42 AM
See what a little Florida Sun can do  8-)
Keep it going today Bengals
Enjoy the beautiful weather, it's cold in NY.

It is truly sweet out here buddy. Wife and I waked out in the beach an hour ago to a clear sky and 84 degrees! ;D ;D ;D. Don't know if I could do this 12 months out of the year, but with retirement around the corner I could see 4/6 months out of the year. Helluva tournament.  Over 10 teams ( at last count), with Goucher and Gwenned mercy arriving today!

Magicman should be glad to know that the boys "allegedly " were in thier rooms by midnight..."allegedly "!!!! ;). Hopefully Alvernia, who arrived yesterday,  partied all night!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2016, 06:45:09 PM
Couldn't watch the game and live stats were switched to the next game. No boxscore showing anywhere but I ran the replay of the game and went to the end of it and could tell that Buffalo State won. Will fill in the blanks later.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2016, 08:54:29 PM
Buffalo State 72  Alvernia 65  Final score

I'm pretty sure the Buffalo State players were out past curfew last night. A friend of mine said they were still partying after 1:00 AM. How else can you explain a measly 72 points, 11 points below their average. I predicted they would get that average of 83 points against an Alvernia team that just gave up 85 points to Lycoming. My score was 83-77. Had the MOV close at least.

No game tomorrow so tonight the Bengals can party like it's 1999. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKgCNT614ZU

The Bengals jumped out to an 8-0 lead but it was the Crusaders that were on the front end of a 19-13 score halfway through the first period. They put together a 19-5 run that carried them to a 6 point advantage and they hung onto the lead through the next 9 minutes. Buff State finally caught them with a minute left in the half, on a Jordan Rey jumper and when Alvernia missed on their final possession the Bengals scored inside on a J.O. Mair layup for a 36-34 halftime lead.  The Crusaders got a big first half from guard George Williams, who scored more than half of Alvernia's total as he burned the Bengals for 19 points. Dom Grayer with 9 points and Lovell Smith with 8 led Buffalo State.   

The 2nd half was also closely contested but it was the Bengals that had the lead for most of the period. They were up by 5 points a minute into the half but Alvernia scored 5 straight points to knot it up at 41. Two free throws from Mike Henry and a dunk from Jordan Chateau put the Bengals up by 4 but the Crusaders got a jumper and a 3 pointer to gain the lead for the first time in the period at 46-45 with 14:42 left to play. The teams were tied at 48 each when the Bengals outscored the Crusaders by a 14-6 margin over the next 7 minutes to open up the largest lead of the game at 62-54. Six straight points from the Crusaders' top scorer, Marquis Marshall brought them within 2 at 62-60, but Jordan Glover knocked down a 3 pointer with 2:57 on the clock to make it a 2 possession game once more. The Crusaders got it down to a 66-63 deficit on a 3 point play by Marshall but Glover swished 2 from the stripe to give the Bengals some breathing room. Then Glover stole the ball and got it ahead to Henry for a layup that sealed the win for the Bengals. A couple of free throws were tacked on to make the final margin of 7 points.

Buffalo State had 4 players in double figures led by Lovell Smith with a double-double of 18 points and 10 rebounds. He added 2 blocks, 1 assist and a steal.

Mike Henry also had a double-double with 11 points and a game high 11 rebounds. He had 2 assists a steal and a block.

Jordan Glover had 13 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.

Dom Grayer had 11 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist off the bench in 22 minutes of floor time.

J.O. Spence had 7 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist and a block with 15 minutes off the bench.


Alvernia got 25 points from George Williams who was the game's high scorer. He also had a game high 7 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks.

Marquis Marshall had 21 points, 8 rebounds and 2 steals.

Mike Miller had 13 points, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.


The Bengals improve to 7-3 overall (1-3 in the YAC). They won't play again until they make their annual trek to the North Country to take on Potsdam State on January 6th at 5:30 PM followed by a Saturday afternoon game against Plattsburgh State at 2:00 PM.


Alvernia drops to 5-4 and has a game tomorrow in Miami against Goucher College.   

 

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
Just call me thankful. Sitting here in the airport in ft lauderdale.  Same flight as BENGALS! I hope these young men realize the expense that coach Ansari put out for them to fly to ft lauderdale, stay at a 5 star hotel ( Miami Loews hotel) and eat 3 times a day. I know that the Plattsburgh team did the same trip last year so I'm sure Magicman can appreciate what goes into putting a holiday trip like this together! 

I ran into team last night at Finnegans Way restaurant on Ocean Blvd!  Quite a site seeing these young men with thier coaches while they enjoyed a team meal and the Panthers v Redskins football game!   Most had never been to Miami let alone a beach. At least 1 admitted that it was his first plane ride! This had to be quite the experience for these kids!  I know this is div 3 hoops but trust me when I tell you that theses boys had a D1 experience!

Note: Got an email from the uSUNYAC office last week saying why there was no team of the week. Water main broke in thier hq. They will be back with thier Xmas team of the week, next week, so stay tuned!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2016, 10:16:33 AM
 
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
Just call me thankful. Sitting here in the airport in ft lauderdale.  Same flight as BENGALS! I hope these young men realize the expense that coach Ansari put out for them to fly to ft lauderdale, stay at a 5 star hotel ( Miami Loews hotel) and eat 3 times a day. I know that the Plattsburgh team did the same trip last year so I'm sure Magicman can appreciate what goes into putting a holiday trip like this together! 

I ran into team last night at Finnegans Way restaurant on Ocean Blvd!  Quite a site seeing these young men with thier coaches while they enjoyed a team meal and the Panthers v Redskins football game!   Most had never been to Miami let alone a beach. At least 1 admitted that it was his first plane ride! This had to be quite the experience for these kids!  I know this is div 3 hoops but trust me when I tell you that theses boys had a D1 experience!

Note: Got an email from the uSUNYAC office last week saying why there was no team of the week. Water main broke in thier hq. They will be back with thier Xmas team of the week, next week, so stay tuned!

Go BENGALS!

Hey Thankful,

Was that email from uSUNYAC office, directly from the President, or did a secretary respond? ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2016, 11:42:53 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 20, 2016, 10:16:33 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
Just call me thankful. Sitting here in the airport in ft lauderdale.  Same flight as BENGALS! I hope these young men realize the expense that coach Ansari put out for them to fly to ft lauderdale, stay at a 5 star hotel ( Miami Loews hotel) and eat 3 times a day. I know that the Plattsburgh team did the same trip last year so I'm sure Magicman can appreciate what goes into putting a holiday trip like this together! 

I ran into team last night at Finnegans Way restaurant on Ocean Blvd!  Quite a site seeing these young men with thier coaches while they enjoyed a team meal and the Panthers v Redskins football game!   Most had never been to Miami let alone a beach. At least 1 admitted that it was his first plane ride! This had to be quite the experience for these kids!  I know this is div 3 hoops but trust me when I tell you that theses boys had a D1 experience!

Note: Got an email from the uSUNYAC office last week saying why there was no team of the week. Water main broke in thier hq. They will be back with thier Xmas team of the week, next week, so stay tuned!

Go BENGALS!

Hey Thankful,

Was that email from uSUNYAC office, directly from the President, or did a secretary respond? ???

President.  I only deal with the president of uSUNYAC! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2016, 04:28:09 PM
I discovered a new d3hoops site today, courtesy of a write up by Eastern Conn.  It is actually a rather informative site. You may notice that this site has SUNYAC ranked as the 7th best D3 conference.

http://herosports.com/colleges/sports/d3-mens-basketball?utm_source=HERO+Master&utm_campaign=434bf30c9b-D3+MBB+Headlines+12%2F21&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_25ee8a514c-434bf30c9b-76339477

Mainsite is http://herosports.com/

When you click on to d3 rankings, their system has so much more detail at your fingertips i.e, results of, at least, your last 7 games with score and opponents. Updates rankings daily (I think)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2016, 12:27:12 AM
Justin Cooper with his double-double in a win against St. John Fisher last week was chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Here's the write-up from the YAC website:

Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week - Justin Cooper, Cortland (So, G - Pine Plains, N.Y.)

Cooper scored 15 of his 20 points in the second half as Cortland won at St. John Fisher, 79-69. He finished the game with 20 points, 12 rebounds and five assists and recorded his fifth double-double of the season.

Congratulations to Justin.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2016, 01:15:42 AM
The Team of the Week email was sent to my house this week because they heard that Bengalsrule went to Florida on a vacation to see his team play and wouldn't have time to post this.

For games from December 12th through December 19th:

Jayquan Thomas   Potsdam State  33 points  4 rebounds  4 steals in a close loss to Nazareth 87-79 on 12-17

James Morales  Cortland State  20 points  4 rebounds   3 steals  in a 75-69 win over St. John Fisher on 12-17

Justin Cooper   Cortland State 20 points 12 rebounds  5 assists  in a 75-69 win over St. John Fisher on 12-17
Justin was the SUNYAC Player of the Week

Jordan Chateau   Buffalo State 23 points  17 rebounds  5 blocks in a 76-68 win over Eastern Conn. on 12-17
and a 72-65 win over Alvernia on 12-18.  Had 19 points and 10 boards off the bench against Eastern Conn.
                                                 
Dom Grayer    Buffalo State 30 points  6 rebounds  3 assists, coming off the bench in a 76-68 win over Eastern Conn on 12-17 and a 72-65 win over Alvernia on 12-18. Also had 19 points with 3 boards against EC.

Lovell Smith   Buffalo State  33 points  18 rebounds   4 assists  2 steals  in a 76-68 win over Eastern Conn. on 12-17 and a 72-65 win over Alvernia on 12-18

PLEASE NOTE:
There will be no Team of the Week next week as all teams are off from 12-20 through 12-27.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2016, 01:31:42 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 Poll came out on the 19th and the only team in the East Region in the top 25 was Rochester who moved up 1 spot to #6. The Yellowjackets received 474 points in this week's poll, an increase of 18 points over the last poll.

Brockport State is the next highest ranked team as they received 20 points in the Others Receiving Votes category. That would put them in the 33rd spot. They had 17 points in the previous poll but didn't see any action this past week and are off until the 2nd of January. They won't see much movement in that placement for a few weeks.

No other East team received any votes in the poll.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2016, 02:21:49 AM
Updated Massey Rankings of the Top East Region teams:

#13   Rochester
#39   Brockport State
#70   Plattsburgh State
#72   St Lawrence
#74   Hobart
#75   Buffalo State   Up 57 spots off their 2 wins in Florida over the weekend.(which helped the YAC teams
            that have a win over the Bengals like Cortland and Plattsburgh.)                               
#81   Cortland State   Up 29 spots off their win over St. John Fisher
#85   Skidmore
#86   Geneseo State
#90   Hartwick
#92   St. John Fisher
#95   Oswego State
#120 RIT
#122 Stevens Tech
#125 Oneonta
#131 Union
#134 Nazareth
#182 Clarkson
#!91 NYU


I only went this far to see where NYU was ranked. Seem like every year they play a cupcake schedule of non-conference opponents and are usually 9-0 or 10-0 and ranked in the Top 25. Then they get into conference play and usually get beat up and fall out of contention. This year they are 7-2 and have lost handily to the 2 teams that have decent records, Yeshiva and Purchase. Must be a down year for the Violets.

Interesting, that like the past several years, the SUNYAC has 5 of the top 9 teams and 7 of the top 15 in the  East Region.

Our top 6 teams have a combined record of 41-15 overall but 8 of those losses have come against each other. The out of conference record for those 6 teams is 24-7 which compares favorably against the non-conference schedule of most any other conference in the country.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2016, 02:47:39 AM
Another sad story coming out of Geneseo where the Women's Basketball team suffered the loss of a young lady, who was a freshman on the team, in a car accident. This is the second year in a row tragedy has struck the Women's team. Here's a link to the newspaper article:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2016/12/21/suny-geneseo-womens-basketball-player-dies-crash/95695042/

Another student athlete from Lancaster Bible College lost her life in a car accident a day earlier. Here's a link to the D3hoops story about both accidents:

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2016/12/tragedy-geneseo-lbc

Our condolences and prayers to the families of these young ladies. It's especially hard coming during a season  that is supposed to be filled with joy and celebration. These families will have a tough time making it through the approaching holidays. Please say a prayer for them and their daughters who were taken from them far too early. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 22, 2016, 04:16:37 PM
Another plus, that I just discovered on "herosports".  I wonder if pat Coleman and the crew utilize/pay attention to any of their, Herosports,  data?

http://herosports.com/rankings/college-d3-mens-basketball

Easier to read than massey (IMHO)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 23, 2016, 04:13:18 AM
Bengalsrule,

Did you see the PM I sent you seeking an answer to a question?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 23, 2016, 12:54:17 PM
Wanted to wish all the SUNYAC faithful's a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.
Enjoy the Holidays
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 23, 2016, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 23, 2016, 04:13:18 AM
Bengalsrule,

Did you see the PM I sent you seeking an answer to a question?

Stay tuned! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2016, 12:55:25 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all who visit this board and especially to the guys that are my fellow posters. Hope Santa was good to everyone.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 25, 2016, 04:14:31 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 25, 2016, 12:55:25 AM
Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all who visit this board and especially to the guys that are my fellow posters. Hope Santa was good to everyone.

Same to you and the other posters on this board!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2016, 05:22:53 AM
The YAC slowly returns to action as Oneonta gets us started after the holiday with a game against Ursinus down in Florida.

Ursinus  vs  Oneonta State     Land of Magic Classic @ Daytona Beach, Fla. 11:00 AM

The Ursinus Bears currently sit in a tie for 2nd place in the Centennial Conference, with a 3-1 league record. They are 5-4 overall. They own a 16 point win over Franklin & Marshall a team that has beaten the Red Dragons 3 times in the past 5 years. Last year Oneonta lost a tough overtime decision to F & M with some questionable fouls called near the end of regulation. But that Franklin & Marshall team (22-6 last year) was much better than this year's version. So Ursinus beating them by 16 points doesn't carry the weight that it normally would.

Oneonta is coming off a 3 game winning streak, all conference victories, that have them right in the thick of the battle, for a conference playoff spot, under new head coach Cameron Conover. They will come into the game as a slim 3 point favorite according to the oddsmakers. They will have to contend with the height of the Bears as they start a pair of 6'7' forwards, along with 3 guards that go 6'2", 6'3" and 6'4". I'm taking the Red Dragons to win this one by a 77- 73 final score. Here's my logic...Buffalo State beat Eastern Connecticut by 8 points. The next day Eastern Connecticut beat Eastern University by 17 points. Eastern University beat Ursinus by 16 points back on December 10th. I think Oneonta can hang with the Bengals so they should be able to hang with these Bears....and hopefully take them down. Go Dragons.
         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 28, 2016, 10:28:38 AM
The Oneonta Red Dragons win this one by Double digits against Ursinus.
Like I told Bengalsrule, a little sunshine this time of year does wonders. 8-)
Coach Conover has them playing great. The Geneseo win will go down as the turning point of their season.
Look for the Red Dragons to come out fast.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2016, 11:55:16 AM
Quote from: All-Time on December 28, 2016, 10:28:38 AM
The Oneonta Red Dragons win this one by Double digits against Ursinus.
Like I told Bengalsrule, a little sunshine this time of year does wonders. 8-)
Coach Conover has them playing great. The Geneseo win will go down as the turning point of their season.
Look for the Red Dragons to come out fast.

I usually don't engage in predictions ( leaving that to our 2 resident experts) but I agree with you, All Time, 100%!  Need another good win for the Yac!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 28, 2016, 06:50:52 PM
Oneonta 78 - Ursinus 67. Magicman's logic works..again!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2016, 05:19:23 AM
Oneonta  78  Ursinus 67

Pretty close with Oneonta's point total as I had them winning 77-73.

All-Time correctly had them winning by double digits. Good job by the Red Dragons

Oneonta did come out of the gate fast as All-Time mentioned, as they opened up a 14-4 lead fueled by 10 points from Lawrence Coleman. They maintained a 7 to 11 point lead for much of the period and were still up by 10 points, 31-21, with 5 minutes to play in the period.  They got outscored 11-4 over those last few minutes and allowed the Bears to close to within 3 points to go into the locker room only up 35-32.

The Bears came out of the break and scored the first 2 baskets of the 2nd half to take their first lead since they were up 2-1. That just made the Red Dragons mad and they reeled off 15 unanswered points that basically put this game away as they held a double digit lead for all but 34 seconds of the entire 2nd half. Up 50-36, Oneonta would extend the lead to as much as 19 points, at 58-39. The Bears cut the lead below double figures at 68-59 with 2:08 to play but the Red Dragons made 10 of 16 free throws down the stretch to win by the final score.

The Red Dragons
Lawrence Coleman led the way with 19 points, 5 rebounds and 3 steals

Frankie Kelly had 18 points, 6 rebounds,4 assists and a steal.

Mikey McElroy had 16 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block.

Jack Kolosky had 11 points, a team high 8 rebounds and 2 steals.


The Bears
Ursinus only had 1 player, Remi Janicot, in double figures with 11 points.

Joe LoStracco had a game high 9 rebounds to go with his 7 points.

Zach Muredda had 9 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal off the bench.


Oneonta outshot the Bears in all 3 categories and only had 9 turnovers to 18 for their opponents. Ursinus had 36 rebounds to 31 for Oneonta.

The Red Dragons improve to 5-4 and will meet Brooklyn College on Thursday December 29th at 7:00 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2016, 07:10:31 AM
Dec. 29  Three SUNYAC teams in action today   

Geneseo State  vs  Centre    5:00 PM   
at Case Western Reserve (Cleveland, Ohio) @ Bill Sudeck Holiday Tournament

The Knights are coming off a two week layoff and will take on the Centre College Colonels from the Southern Athletic Assosciation. Geneseo is on a 2 game winning streak and they should be able to keep the streak going against the Colonels. The point spread favors Geneseo by 9 points but I think they win by a few more than that. Centre is 4-4 and has no common opponent with Geneseo but they did lose to Earlham who barely beat D'Youville in overtime. Fredonia beat D'Youville by 26 points. I'm taking the Knights to win this one by an 88-74 final.   

   
Fredonia State  at  Lycoming        6:00 PM

The Blue Devils apparently weren't happy getting beat by Lycoming back on November 15th by an 80-66 final score. They've decided to go back to Pennslyvania and would like some more, please. The Warriors are 10-1, on a 7 game winning streak, and would be undefeated, except for a 1 point loss to D3hoops #14 Susqehanna. They have beaten Potsdam and Fredonia this year but notice they didn't play any of the upper echelon teams in the YAC. Buffalo State played last years league champion Alvernia last week and beat them by a 72-65 score on a neutral court. Lycoming beat Alvernia back on December 13th at home by an 86-85 score. I think the SUNYAC is a stronger conference, but Lycoming (after getting pounded by Plattsburgh State 2 years ago) avoids our better teams.

Fredonia is on a 3 game losing streak and has been off for 19 days. I don't see them winning this game and they will be hard pressed to keep it in single digits. The oddsmakers have made Lycoming a 15 point favorite. Final score will be something along those lines. Lycoming has scored 86 points in their last 3 games. Can they make it a 4 bagger? Lycoming 86 Fredonia 68.   

   
Oneonta State  vs  Brooklyn College        7:00 PM     Daytona Shootout @ Daytona Beach, Fla.

Hopefully the Red Dragons learned a lesson from last year and didn't party into the wee hours of the morning. At least they don't have an afternoon game if they did. Last year they beat a decent Central team and then the next day, went and lost to a Gustavus Adolphus team that they should have mopped the floor with. That was the day of the 15 point first half. That was in Puerto Rico and those island girls must have messed with the Red Dragons bigtime.  Today is the same scenario. They should win this game by double digits. The Bulldogs have a 3-7 record and haven't beaten a team with a winning record. Using my logic from yesterday's prediction with Buffalo State as my common denominator, here's what I come up with since the Bulldogs and Red Dragons have no common opponents. Buff State beat Alvernia 72-65. Alvernia beat Lebanon Valley 76-70. Yesterday Brooklyn lost to Lebanon Valley by a 76-60 score. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 10 point favorite but I think they win by a bigger margin, if they didn't party all night long. Oneonta 90 Brooklyn 72.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 29, 2016, 11:25:49 AM
Love the MAGICMAN'S predictions for today's SUNYAC action.  ;)
I totally agree with him.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2016, 06:20:15 PM
Geneseo all over Centre as they lead 90-59 with 2 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2016, 06:22:17 PM
Geneseo defeats Centre 94-66.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2016, 07:01:14 PM
Fredonia losing 43-27 to Lycoming at the half.

Final score of this game was 65-47.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 29, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
Oneonta wins by 25!  Yac goes 2-1 today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 03:47:02 AM
Fredonia falls to Lycoming by a 65-47 final score.

I had the Blue Devils losing by an 86-68 final. Each team was exactly 21 points from their predicted total, because neither team could hit the broad side of a barn.  They were a combined 42x121 from the field and 8x53 from long distance. At one point in the 2nd half both teams went scoreless for almost 4 minutes and in a 7 minute stretch scored a grand total of 4 points. I did have the point spread of 18 points right on the money. though.

Lycoming gained the upper hand with about 8 minutes left in the first half. The Blue Devils were trading baskets with the Warriors and were down 20-19 at the time. Lycoming would go on a 16-3 run to boost their lead to 36-22 with 2:39 remaining in the period. They coasted into the break with a 43-27 advantage.

The Blue Devils played them fairly even in the 2nd stanza but really couldn't cut into the lead and they could never get closer than 14 points. The largest lead was 19 points for the Warriors. The two teams combined to score 42 total points in the half.

Fredonia got 10 points from Richard De La Cruz, the only Blue Devil to hit double figures. Kareem Brown had 7 points and 8 rebounds.  Dante Williams had 6 points, 8 rebounds and 3 assists.

Lycoming had 3 players in double digits led by Willie Kee with 14 points off the bench.

Fredonia drops to 3-7 overall (1-3 YAC) and will play Rosemont later today. Rosemont, a team from the Colonial States Athletic Conference, lost to Delaware Valley on Thursday by a 75-70 score. Gametime in Lycoming is set for 1:00 PM .
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 04:27:03 AM
Oneonta State 87  Brooklyn College 62

I thought the Red Dragons would win by more than the 10 point spread and predicted an 18 point margin of victory with my 90-72 score. They were even better. I almost got the 90 points right but when you dominate a team like this, the first unit is usually watching the action as others get more minutes. Everyone got in the game and almost everyone hit the scoreboard.

The Red Dragons trailed 2-0 and 6-5 and those were the only times that the Bulldogs were in front. Ten minutes into the game Oneonta had doubled up Brooklyn at 24-12. It would only get worse. The bulldogs did hang for a while and went into the break only down 39-28.

Seven minutes after the 2nd half started the lead was 20 and growing. 19 points was as close as the Bulldogs got the rest of the way and the lead reached a high of 33 points.

The Red Dragons.
Mikey McElroy led the way today, as he had a game high 24 points and 6 rebounds.

Lawrence Coleman had a double-double of 18 points and a game high 10 rebounds.

Kevin Mackin had 11 points and 3 rebounds in 15 minutes off the bench.

Carson Jacobs added 10 points in only 13 minutes off the bench.

Frankie Kelly had 8 assists, 6 rebounds, 5 points and a steal.

The Bulldogs
Enees Nikovic was the high score for Brooklyn with 20 points and also led the team with 8 rebounds in 26 minutes off the bench.

Niv Konfino had 15 points, 8 assists, and 7 rebounds.

Austin Wood had 13 points and 3 assists.

Oneonta outshot the Bulldogs in all 3 categories and had a huge advantage on the boards...55-30.  Brooklyn only had 9 turnovers to 15 for Oneonta.

Oneonta improves to 6-4 (3-1) and will travel to Williams College to take on the Ephs on Tuesday January 3rd at 6:00 PM.  Williams defeated #15 Hope College on Thursday to improve to 9-1. I expect Williams may jump into the Top 25 when the next poll comes out on Monday evening Jan. 2nd. The Red Dragons will have their hands full with a tall and talented Williams squad. The Ephs will be looking for some payback after losing to Oneonta last year, in Oneonta, by a 75-62 final score and two years ago in Willietown by a 74-68 score.   
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 05:24:15 AM
Geneseo State 94  Centre 66

My prediction of an 88-74 double digit win by the Knights over Centre was more than the 9 points that the oddsmakers had computed, but not nearly as large as the margin of victory ended up. The Knights made short work of the Colonels, as they jumped on top and were never challenged. John Decker, Justin Ringen and Jack Manke all scored to open up a 7-0 lead and then the threesome all scored again and it was 14-4 with 15:07 left to play in the half. The Knights would eventually stretch the lead to 20 points at 44-24 when the buzzer sounded for the break.

The 2nd half was mostly played by the bench players and they increased the lead to a game high of 40 points at 87-47 with 8:14 left in the game. The starters played about 8 minutes each in the 2nd half and then rested for the game they will play on Friday.

The Knights
John Decker had scoring honors with 21 points in just 25 minutes of court time. He had 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Justin Ringen had 18 points, 5 assists, 3 rebounds, and 2 steals in 23 minutes.

Kevin Crockett had 15 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists in 21 minutes.

Jack Manke had 10 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assists and a block in 15 minutes on the court.

Jack Eisenberg also had 10 points, 4 boards, and 1 assists in 23 minutes..

Tommy Eastman had a team high 5 rebounds, 3 points, 2 steals, and a block in 20 minutes of floor time.

The Colonels
Matt Gump had 12 points to lead the team in scoring.

Bailey Rakes had 10 points.

Art Walker had 10 points.

Perry Ayres had a game high 6 rebounds.   

Geneseo won all 3 shooting categories by a wide margin and had 39 boards to 29 for the Colonels. The Knights had 12 turnovers to 7 for Centre. 

Geneseo ups their record to 7-3 (3-1 conference) and will take on the Bethany College Bison from West Virginia in the Championship game of the  Case Western Reserve (Cleveland, Ohio) Bill Sudeck Holiday Tournament, today at 4:00 PM. Bethany defeated the host team, CWR, by an 86-82 final score, in overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 06:26:24 AM
Dec. 30    

Fredonia State   vs   Rosemont  1:00 PM 
At Lycoming College  Consolation game of The Louis Fleming Basinger Memorial Tournament

The Blue Devils have an opportunity to put a W on the board as they play a team from the Colonial States Athletic Conference that is currently 4-6. The oddsmakers have listed the Ravens as a 1 point favorite so this is anybody's ballgame. My research tells me that Rosemont is slightly better than Fredonia as they own a road win over Ursinus, the team that Oneonta beat 2 days ago. I think the Ravens win by a final score of 80 -72. Hope I'm wrong though.

   
Bethany  vs  Geneseo State        4:00 PM   
At Case Western Reserve Univ. Championship Game of The Bill Sudeck Holiday Tournament

The Knights barely worked up a sweat against Centre yesterday. Bethany should present more of a challenge. The Bison hail from the Presidents' Athletic Conference and currently sport a 6-4 record but are only 1-3 in their conference. The SUNYAC is a stronger conference than the PAC and Geneseo is better positioned in the YAC  than Bethany is in their conference. The oddsmakers once again favor the Knights by a double digit margin of 11 points. I said Bethany would present more of a challenge than Centre did and they will, as the Knights won't be in front of this team by 40 points. They will be in front by 20, though. Final score should be something like Geneseo 87 Bethany 67.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 08:12:40 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 22, 2016, 02:21:49 AM
Updated Massey Rankings of the Top East Region teams:

#13   Rochester
#39   Brockport State
#70   Plattsburgh State
#72   St Lawrence
#74   Hobart
#75   Buffalo State   Up 57 spots off their 2 wins in Florida over the weekend.(which helped the YAC teams
            that have a win over the Bengals like Cortland and Plattsburgh.)                               
#81   Cortland State   Up 29 spots off their win over St. John Fisher
#85   Skidmore
#86   Geneseo State
#90   Hartwick
#92   St. John Fisher
#95   Oswego State
#120 RIT
#122 Stevens Tech
#125 Oneonta
#131 Union
#134 Nazareth
#182 Clarkson
#191 NYU


I only went this far to see where NYU was ranked. Seem like every year they play a cupcake schedule of non-conference opponents and are usually 9-0 or 10-0 and ranked in the Top 25. Then they get into conference play and usually get beat up and fall out of contention. This year they are 7-2 and have lost handily to the 2 teams that have decent records, Yeshiva and Purchase. Must be a down year for the Violets.

Interesting, that like the past several years, the SUNYAC has 5 of the top 9 teams and 7 of the top 15 in the  East Region.

Our top 6 teams have a combined record of 41-15 overall but 8 of those losses have come against each other. The out of conference record for those 6 teams is 24-7 which compares favorably against the non-conference schedule of most any other conference in the country.


Updated Massey Rankings of the top East Region teams:

#9.     Rochester
#32.   Brockport State
#55.   Plattsburgh State
#63.   Geneseo State
#66.   St. Lawrence
#67.   Buffalo State
#70.   Cortland State
#75.   Skidmore
#76.   St. John Fisher
#79.   Hartwick
#83.   Hobart
#87.   Oswego State
#98.   Oneonta State
#107. RIT
#120. Union
#124. Nazareth
#163. Stevens Tech
#165. Clarkson
#183. RPI
#268. NYU

Recent out of conference wins by Oneonta and Geneseo have boosted the YAC teams up a little more. Massey now has the SUNYAC conference rated as the 10th best conference in the country which is the highest we've ever been ranked as best I can remember. And the latest ranking doesn't include Oneonta's win over Ursinus. That game isn't showing a result for some odd reason.

Nice to see 7 of the SUNYAC teams ranked in the Top 100 of DIII.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 02:49:43 PM
Fredonia defeats Rosemont 79-71. 

That's pretty darn close to the 80-72 final I predicted. Yeah, I know, I had the other team winning. I said I hope I was wrong. I got that part right. :D   Good job Blue Devils. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 04:52:25 PM
Geneseo leads Bethany 38-35 at the half.


John Decker with 12 points leads all scorers. Justin Ringen has 7 points and Jack Eisenberg has 6.

Andrew Williams leads Bethany with 9 points. Calique Jones has 8 and Antonio Rudolph has 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 05:28:35 PM
Geneseo 80 Bethany 59
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Interesting results when comparing Herosports rankings to Massey!

Herosports has SUNYAC ranked 7th best, however the team rankings are, as of Dec 23rd....different.

http://herosports.com/rankings/college-d3-mens-basketball

Rochester = 25th
Hobart - 45
St John Fisher - 62
Brockport - 64
Cortland - 78
Skidmore - 88
Buffalo State - 101
Plattsburgh - 102
St Lawrence - 106
RIT - 115
Oswego - 123
Geneseo - 124
Hartwick - 146
Oneonta - 164

I'm sure Dave or Pat have some insight as to how 2 polls could be so different!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2016, 05:41:33 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 30, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Interesting results when comparing Herosports rankings to Massey!

Herosports has SUNYAC ranked 7th best, however the team rankings are, as of Dec 23rd....different.

http://herosports.com/rankings/college-d3-mens-basketball

Rochester = 25th
Hobart - 45
St John Fisher - 62
Brockport - 64
Cortland - 78
Skidmore - 88
Buffalo State - 101
Plattsburgh - 102
St Lawrence - 106
RIT - 115
Oswego - 123
Geneseo - 124
Hartwick - 146
Oneonta - 164

I'm sure Dave or Pat have some insight as to how 2 polls could be so different!

To rank Hobart or Fisher ahead of Brockport just tells me that Herosports isn't really a very good ranking system. I think there are at least 5 teams in the YAC that should be ranked ahead of Hobart and Fisher and maybe more.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2017, 05:29:05 AM
Fredonia 79  Rosemont 71

It was nice to see the Blue Devils get a win here, especially against a team that they matched up well against. The first half was a back and forth affair with 8 lead changes and 8 ties. The largest lead was 23-16 with Fredonia in front, with 9 minutes to go in the half. Rosemont had their biggest lead at 29-25 after a 13-2 run erased that Fredonia lead with 6:11 remaining in the period. The Blue Devils would come back to go up 35-34 at the break.

The teams continued to trade baskets through the early part of the 2nd period and were still tied at 39 with 15:13 remaining to be played. Fredonia went on a 10-3 spurt to grab the upper hand and they maintained at least a 2 possession lead throughout the remainder of the game. After the Ravens cut the lead to 57-53 with 4:42 to go, Richard De La Cruz hit back to back 3 pointers, 18 seconds apart, to give the Blue Devils a 10 point lead at 63-53 with 4 minutes left in the game. Rosemont got it down to 4 points on several occasions but Brandon Hodge and De La Cruz made some timely free throws to keep the Ravens at bay.

The Blue Devils
Richard De La Cruz was the game's high scorer with 22 points. He added 8 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

Ian Helps had 15 points and 5 rebounds.

Dante Williams had 12 points and 9 rebounds

Nicc Johnson had 8 points, a game high 13 rebounds, and a team high 5 assists off the bench.

Brandon Hodge had 8 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Kareem Brown had 8 points 3 rebounds and a steal.

The Ravens
Jamier Hughes had a double-double of 20 points and 11 rebounds.

Charles Presley had 12 points and 2 steals.

Clayton Wolfe had 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 4 points, and 2 steals.

Fredonia outshot the Ravens from the field 44.4% (28x63) to 31.5% (23x73). Long range and free throws were fairly even but the Blue Devils grabbed 53 rebounds to 37 for Rosemont. Fredonia had nearly twice as many turnovers with 17, to just 9 for the Ravens.

Fredonia improves to 4-7 (1-3 YAC) and will be off until Friday, January 6th, when they make the trek to the North Country to take on Plattsburgh State at 5:30 PM. 

             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 01, 2017, 05:31:36 AM
Geneseo State 80  Bethany 59

I had the Knights winning this one by an 87-67 final. A little off on the final but had the margin of victory almost perfect.

Geneseo spotted the Bison 4 points before they started get in gear.  John Decker scored Geneseo's first 12 points but picked up 2 early fouls and was on the bench with 13:33 left to play in the period. The Knights finally gained their first lead on a Kevin Crockett layup to put them ahead 14-13. The Bison went back in front 15-14 but the Knights regained the lead on a 3 pointer from Tommy Eastman. The Knights went up by 5 points but Bethany caught them and regained the lead, 30-29, with 7 minutes to play. Geneseo scored the next 7 points to go up 36-30, which was the biggest lead of the opening stanza. Bethany narrowed the gap to 38-35 with 2:33 remaining and the teams came up empty on the final 9 shots they took in the period.

The Bison also scored first again in the 2nd half, and managed to go in front 40-38. The lead was short lived though as Decker scored to tie the game, Jack Eisenberg hit a pair of free throws and then Justin Ringen scored twice on a layup, then a 3 pointer. As quick as you could say Tommy Eastman...who scored the next 6 points...the Knights were in front 55-43. Up 60-45 with 9 minutes to go, Bethany never got closer than 13 points as Geneseo increased their lead to a final of 21 points.

The Knights
John Decker once again captured scoring honors with 19 points in only 18 minutes on the court. He was named the MVP of the tournament

Freshman Tommy Eastman had 18 points 7 rebounds and 3 steals in 19 minutes of court time off the bench. It was a new career high for Tommy as he eclipsed the 15 points he scored back in November against New Rochelle.

Justin Ringen just missed a double-double with 15 points and a game high 9 rebounds. He joined Decker on the All Tournament Team

Jack Eisenberg added 10 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds.

The Bison
Andrew Williams had 17 points, 3 rebounds, and 3 assists.

Calique Jones had 14 points and 5 rebounds.

Liam Davis had a team high 6 rebounds to go with 6 points.

The Knights outshot the Bison 52.8% (28x53) to 32.8 % (22x67). From long range Geneseo was 10x27 (37%). Bethany was 8x26 (30.8%). The Knights were 14x17 from the line. Bethany was 7x8. Geneseo committed 3 turnovers to 8 for the Bison.

The Knights bring back the championship trophy from the Case Western Reserve Holiday Tournament and improve their record to 8-3 overall (3-1 conference). The Knights are off until January 7th when they will host travel partner, Brockport, currently 3-0 in the conference, in a battle for first place.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2017, 02:13:18 PM
Jan. 2  Two games on tap today and I'm a little late so before I look I'm making a couple of picks. 

Cortland   vs  Widener      1:00 PM     Johns Hopkins Tournament at Baltimore, Md.

The Red Dragons should handle this team from the Mid Atlantic Commonwealth Conference. Buffalo State took care of another team from this conference, Alvernia and Widener is probably not quite as good. The oddsmakers have favored the Red Dragons by 9 points but I think they win by more than that. Cortland 83 Widener 67.

 
Brockport   vs   Carnegie Mellon  3:00 PM

The Golden Eagles return to action after a long layoff of 3 weeks. They might be a bit rusty but they should still take care of another UAA team. Carnegie Mellon is 5-5 on the year but has only beaten 1 team with a winning record.  The oddsmakers have favored Brockport by 8 points. I think they win by double digits even if they are rusty. Brockport takes this one 84-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2017, 02:43:48 PM
Cortland gives up double digit 2nd half lead and then has to make two free throws to tie Widener at 73 each with 9 second left to play. Red Dragons manage to prevent the Pride from scoring on the final possession of regulation and the teams are headed  to overtime. Cortland should have won this game already. Hopefully they will prevail in the extra session.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2017, 02:56:52 PM
Cortland gets a big rebound and putback by Zach Lydon off a missed 3 point shot by James Morales with three tenths of a second left in the game to pull out an 88-86 victory.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2017, 03:49:25 PM
Brockport trailing Carnegie Mellon by a 42-28 score at the half. Golden Eagles not looking good. Will need to make a move early in the 2nd half, to get back in this game.

Devonn Gavin with 8 points to lead Brockport. Marcus Blythers has 7 and Clifton Lyerly has 6.

Ryan Maha leads the Tartans with 16 points and Seth Henry has 12.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2017, 04:50:14 PM
Brockport loses to a red hot Carnegie Mellon by an 89-66 score. Not a good day for the Golden Eagles. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2017, 06:11:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 02, 2017, 04:50:14 PM
Brockport loses to a red hot Carnegie Mellon by an 89-66 score. Not a good day for the Golden Eagles.

All I can say is WOW!  No 1 saw that coming!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 02, 2017, 10:33:53 PM
Here's to wishing Brockport best of luck this Friday vs Liberty league front runner St Lawrence ( 8-1)! St Lawrence already has 2 victories vs Yac teams so this match up of 1st place SUNYAC vs first place liberty, may have some impact on number of post season dance tickets for each conference!

I wish that I could watch that game , but ill be dialed in to watching my BENGALS play Potsdam!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 05:03:44 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll has been released and Rochester is still the only East Region team in the Top 25.

The Yellowjackets moved up 2 spots to #4 with 507 points an increase of 33 points over the last poll. Still undefeated at 11-0, Rochester takes on local rival RIT later today and will start UAA conference play this weekend when they host Emory University in a contest that could have big implications, down the road, on who may get the automatic NCAA bid. Rochester, Emory, the University of Chicago, and Washington University appear to be the 4 teams that will fight it out for conference supremacy.

Brockport State is the only other East region school receiving votes as they got 25 points, an increase of 5 points since the last poll. Their slow climb up the ladder took a bit hit on Monday with the ugly loss to Carnegie Mellon.

Here's a link to the complete Top 25 Poll:    http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2016-17/week5 This is the corrected version. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 08:46:22 AM
Cortland 88  Widener 86

The Red Dragons were playing their first game in 16 days and looked a bit out of sync at times. The early part of the first half saw several lead changes but Cortland, down 8-7, took control with a 3 pointer by James Morales and 5 straight points from Justin Cooper to go in front 15-8 with 15:32 left in the half. They held onto the lead for the rest of the period and even though Widener got the lead down to a single possession on several occasions, Cortland was able to score and keep the Pride from getting the equalizer. James Morales was frequently the antagonist as his 4 first half 3 pointers came at opportune times. He led the Red Dragons with 14 points in the opening stanza. If it wasn't Morales doing the damage, it was Justin Cooper who scored 11 points and was 5x5 from the line as Cortland slowly built their lead to double figures. Up 21-19, Cortland got back to back 3's from Morales and then after he made a pair of free throws, they got another 3 pointer from Michael Kelly. Carrel Joseph hit a pair from the stripe and Cortland was up 34-24 with 4:17 on the clock. Still up 39-30 with time ticking down, Morales buried his 4th 3 pointer with 3 seconds on the clock and the Red Dragons went into the locker room up 42-30 at the half.

The Pride stayed within striking distance early in the 2nd period and cut the lead to 8 points at 44-36 with 16:42 left to play. Cortland used a barrage of 3 pointers from Cooper, Joseph, and Kelly to once again take control of the game and jumped in front 57-41 for their largest lead of the game with 13:10 showing on the clock. Widener refused to roll over and Cortland went cold from the field as they missed their next 9 shots. A 12-1 Widener run was the result and the Pride found themselves down just 58-53 with 9:15 remaining. Cortland built it back to a 10 point advantage on a Nicky Bonura jumper and the Red Dragons were still up by 9 at 67-58, with 5 minutes left, after back to back layups by Carrell Joseph. The Pride hit a 3 pointer, then got a 3 point play after Cortland missed a 3 pointer on their end. Once again the Red Dragons came down and settled for a 3 point attempt that was no good and the Pride came down and scored to cut the lead to 1. Seconds later Cortland turned the ball over and Widener scored again and had the lead for the first time since they were up 8-7 early in the game. 2 free throws from Joseph put Cortland back in front but the Pride scored on their possession with 44 seconds to go. James Morales hit a jumper for Cortland with 28 ticks left but the Pride came down and drained a 3 pointer to go up 73-71 with 17 seconds to go. Cortland's Morales missed a 3 pointer with 11 seconds left but Joseph corralled the rebound and was fouled with 9 seconds on the clock. He calmly swished them both to tie the game and Cortland played good defense to prevent the Pride from getting the game winner as time expired.

In overtime the teams went back and forth the entire 5 minutes with 4 lead changes and 4 ties that set the game up for a final possession by the Red Dragons. Cortland was down 86-84 with 37 seconds remaining when Justin Cooper was fouled. He made both free throws to tie the game and at the other end Joseph blocked the Pride's attempt at the go ahead score. Morales got the rebound with 17 seconds left and dribbled the clock down to 4 seconds and threw up a long 3 point attempt that was off the mark. But it was off the mark just right, as it came down perfectly into the hands of Zach Lydon. He wasted no time in putting it back up and in for the game winner with less than a second to go. I think I spotted Coach Spanbauer smiling on the sidlines as that one went through the net

Cortland should have won this game by a comfortable margin. They allowed this team to hang around and it almost cost them a win. The good news is the Red Dragons hung in there and didn't completely fall apart when things went the other way and they lost the lead late in the game. They made some clutch free throws when they had to and of course got a little bit of luck at the end with the Lydon putback.

The Red Dragons
James Morales had 26 points to lead Cortland and also had 8 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Justin Cooper had a double-double with 20 points and a game high 14 rebounds. he added 4 assists and 2 steals.

Carrell Joseph just missed a double-double with 16 points and 9 rebounds.

Michael Kelly had 11 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Zach Lydon had 9 points, 7 rebounds and 1 assist. And of course that big rebound and putback to end the game.

Justin Prendergast had 4 points and 7 rebounds in just 13 minutes of court time.


The Pride
Sardayah Sambo captured scoring honors with 30 points and completed his double-double with a team high 11 rebounds. He added 5 assists and 3 blocks as well.

Kendall Green had 24 points and 9 rebounds off the bench.

Sam Smith had 18 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists a steal and a block.

Widener outshot the Red Dragons from the field 33x68 (48.5%)  to 26x69 (37.7%) but Cortland made 10x31 (32.3%) from long range to 7x24 (29.2%) for the Pride. The free throw line was the biggest discrepancy as Cortland doubled the Pride from the stripe. The Red Dragons hit 26x30  (86.7%) from the line and the Pride only managed 13x22  (59.1%).

Cortland dominated the boards 53 to 32, but committed 16 turnovers to only 8 for the Pride.

Cortland improves to 8-2 overall (3-1 SUNYAC) and will take on host Johns Hopkins in the Championship game of the Blue Jay Invitational Tournament at 3:00 PM today. The Blue Jays defeated Cazenovia 104-56 (they wanted to make sure they made the championship game of their own tournament) and are now 5-5 overall.                  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 11:34:35 AM
Carnegie Mellon 89  Brockport State 66

When Brockport got to Pittsburgh yesterday and got off the bus, they must have left their game in the baggage compartment underneath the bus because I sure didn't see it on display at Skibo Gym. This certainly wasn't the team that I watched back in early December come into Plattsburgh and take down my Cardinals. It's also the 2nd blip on the radar for the Golden Eagles because they lost another game earlier against Hobart that I felt they should have won.

The game against the Tartans yesterday started out as many games do with back and forth action that featured 3 ties and 6 lead changes over the first 10 minutes of play. There were signs of trouble brewing however, as the Tartans were crashing the boards and getting offensive rebounds. They had twice as many boards as Brockport did after one half of the first period. The Golden Eagles were ahead 18-17 with 11:18 left to play in the first half when someone hit the off button. For the next 9 minutes all the offense the Eagles could muster was a single, solitary foul shot. During that nine minutes they missed 12 shots from the field, committed 4 turnovers and 5 fouls. The Tartans meanwhile, were putting 19 points on the board. The score was now 35-18 before the Eagles finally got a basket from the field with 2:27 left in the half. They quickly scored twice more to cut the 17 point deficit down to 11 but the Tartans responded with a pair of baskets and when the Eagles came back again to cut the lead to 11, the Tartans Ryan Maha buried a 3 pointer at the buzzer to carry Carnegie Mellon into the break up 42-28.

Needing to get back into the game quickly after the start of the 2nd period, the Eagles scored 3 times and held the Tartans to a single basket to get the lead down to 10 points. I was hoping  the big comeback had begun, but just like in the first half the Eagles were grounded by a 13-2 Tartan run over the next 4 minutes that boosted the lead to 21 points at 57-36 with 13:36 to go. Brockport went to the line and got a pair of free throws to get it back under 20 points but the Tartans ripped off another 13-0 run and this game was over with 9:24 left to play. The lead was 32 points, the largest of the game and the Tartans coasted to the finish line.

Brockport did manage to have the high scorer in the game as Devonn Gavin pumped in 25 points. He was the only Eagle in double figures.

Brockport was outshot in every category, and were beaten off the glass by a huge margin of 28 boards as they had 26 rebounds to 54 for Carnegie Mellon. The Tartans had nearly as many offensive rebounds...21, as Brockport had total rebounds. The rebounding margin and Brockport's shooting woes were the main reasons this was such a lop sided contest. The Tartans also shot very well...over 53% from the field and 47.4% from distance. The vaunted Brockport pressure defense won the battle of turnovers as they harassed the Tartans into 23 miscues while only committing 15 of their own.

Brockport falls to 8-2 (3-1 YAC) and will be back in action on Friday when they host their annual game against   Liberty League foe, St. Lawrence University. The Larries haven't beaten Brockport in a long time and have lost 7 straight games in this series. The series is 8-2 in Brockport's favor over the last ten years. SLU is off to a good start at 8-1 and already owns wins over Plattsburgh and Potsdam. They will now face Brockport and Oswego State after taking on North Country rival Clarkson tonight.                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 03, 2017, 01:03:03 PM
Happy New Year.

The SUNYAC goes 3-0 today

Cortland over Hopkins
Oneonta over Williams
Plattsburgh over Trinity

It's time for the SUNYAC to show it's muscle.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 02:29:06 PM
Jan. 3  Three games today involving SUNYAC teams that will all be tough matchups.   

Cortland  at  Johns Hopkins 3:00 PM   Johns Hopkins Invitational Tournament  Championship game

The Red Dragons better have their act together today because I believe this team is better than Widener. They are only 5-5 but have played some decent teams and 4 of the losses are by a combined total of 15 points. Only #5 Salisbury  has beaten them by double figures. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 1 point road favorite. Cortland should shoot better today than they did yesterday so I think they win this one by a 76-69 final score 

   
Plattsburgh State  at  Trinity (Conn.)        5:00 PM

Plattsburgh is coming off a 23 day layoff and bound to be rusty. Trinity played 2 games over the past weekend and got rid of any rust that had accumulated. I don't like the sound of that. Playing the Bantams in their gym will be challenging enough. To do so after such a period of inactivity could spell trouble for the Cardinals. To make matters worse my guys will be shorthanded tonight. I'm really not happy about that. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 2 point favorite but if they knew what I know they would probably make Trinity at least a 6 point favorite. Trinity lost 1 of the 2 games they played over the weekend and that was to Eastern Connecticut by a 72-65 score in the championship game of Trinity's Holiday invitational Tournament. I know that Buffalo State beat Eastern Connecticut back on December 18th and we beat Buff State, so if A beats B and B beats C and C beats D then I'm hoping A can beat D even missing a key player. So I'll take the Cardinals (no surprise there) to beat the Bantams by a final score of 76-71.       


Oneonta State  at  Williams        6:00 PM

These Red Dragons have the toughest row to hoe. The Williams College Ephs come into this game fresh off their first national ranking of the year as they moved into the #25 spot of D3hoops Top 25 poll on Monday night  based on their 2 big wins over the past week. On Thursday December 29th they defeated #15 Hope College 91-85 in overtime and then the next day defeated host Mount Union 70-67 to win the championship of the Mount Union M Club Classic Tournament. They extended their record to 10-1 with their sole loss being at the hands of fellow NESCAC school Wesleyan College, currently 11-0. The Ephs will now try and get revenge over the Red Dragons who have won 2 in a row over Williams. Oneonta will try and extend their overall season's winning streak to 6 games. It's the longest Red Dragon winning streak in seven years as you'd have to go all the way back to January of 2010 to find a longer one. Oneonta got a couple of nice wins in Florida but the Ephs will provide a different level of competition than the two Florida games did. The oddsmakers have Williams listed as an 11 point favorite on their home turf. The Ephs are big and bigger. They will replace 6'5" and 6"7" guys with 6'8" and 6'10" guys. They have a solid 9 man rotation with excellent shooters. It's hard to pick the Red Dragons here but I hope they win this game and prove me wrong. I see them coming out on the short end of an 80-72 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 03:52:06 PM
Cortland trails Johns Hopkins by a 16-4 score early in the period but the Red Dragons  manage to pull within a single possession by halftime and trail the Bluejays 40-37.

Andre McGuire and Justin Cooper both have 11 points to lead Cortland. Cooper has 6 rebounds to lead the team.

Sam Gordon has 8 points and Josh Wetzler has 7 for Johns hopkins.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 04:41:57 PM
Cortland runs out of luck as they fall to Johns Hopkins by a 68-67 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
Plattsburgh looking like they forgot how to play defense as they give up 58 first half points and trail Trinity by a score of 58-40.

Trinity gets 19 first half points from Chris Turnbull who is 7x8 from the field and 5x6 from downtown.

Ed Ogundeko  is close behind with 14 points.

It doesn't matter what Plattsburgh is doing although Isaiah Johnson came in and gave the team some good minutes off the bench with 7 points in limited minutes.

I may have to switch over to the Oneonta-Williams game at 6 PM if this one gets any worse.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 06:43:46 PM
Plattsburgh State loses to Trinity by a score of 107-80. Not much good to report about in this game unless you're a Trinity fan.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 06:47:43 PM
Williams leads Oneonta State by a 39-26 score at halftime.

Mikey McElroy with 8 points. Lawrence Coleman with 6 points and 8 rebounds

Kyle Scadlock with 14 points for Williams. Cole Teal with 8 and Daniel  Aronowitz with 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 03, 2017, 10:21:50 PM
Not a banner day for the Yac!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 03, 2017, 11:29:16 PM
Saw several requests for info or opinion on Hero Sports and their poll... not sure, though, what anyone is looking for. I have chatted with those at Hero... told them that while more eyes on Division III is nice, that their efforts tend to fall flat with people who have no idea what they are talking about - and their stories tend to show that. Furthermore, their poll is not a voting poll... it is basically like Massey - though, I have no idea how it is tabulated. I honestly don't pay that much attention.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2017, 11:32:25 PM
Oneonta is the 3rd YAC team to fall today as they lose to Williams by a 74-62 final score.

Bad day in Black Rock for the YAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 04, 2017, 12:02:03 AM
It's late, but I wanted to say Happy New Year to everybody on this board!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2017, 12:20:45 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 04, 2017, 12:02:03 AM
It's late, but I wanted to say Happy New Year to everybody on this board!

Happy New Year to you Allstar. I was just checking out your picks for Tuesday's games. Eastern Ct. and Rhode Island caught everybody by surprise. Crazy results all over the place this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2017, 01:20:37 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2017, 12:20:45 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 04, 2017, 12:02:03 AM
It's late, but I wanted to say Happy New Year to everybody on this board!

Happy New Year to you Allstar. I was just checking out your picks for Tuesday's games. Eastern Ct. and Rhode Island caught everybody by surprise. Crazy results all over the place this year.

Speaking of Eastern Conn..... Call me pleasantly surprised,( especially after watched my BENGALS beat them 16 days ago in Miami fla,) to see that they, Eastern Conn, just beat the 3rd ranked team in the nation, Amherst, by 12!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 04, 2017, 01:27:39 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 04, 2017, 12:20:45 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 04, 2017, 12:02:03 AM
It's late, but I wanted to say Happy New Year to everybody on this board!

Happy New Year to you Allstar. I was just checking out your picks for Tuesday's games. Eastern Ct. and Rhode Island caught everybody by surprise. Crazy results all over the place this year.

Certainly did...I'm not doing all that good on picks this year, anyway, let alone tonight.  Eastern Connecticut has played a tough schedule, so they are better than their record indicates probably.  I picked Amherst, though with it being at Eastern, I can't say I'm stunned they won...but I'm still somewhat surprised.  Amherst has now lost two of three, as they lost to Springfield before the holidays, which was really unexpected.  Rhode Island College's win over Wesleyan was stunning when you take into account recent results and the fact that it was in Connecticut.  The Anchormen were coming off being trampled by MIT (74-46) and Eastern Connecticut (90-63) at home, while Wesleyan beat highly-ranked Marietta 81-65 in Florida before Christmas.  But in the Wesleyan/RIC matchup, the Cardinals couldn't throw the ball in the ocean.  Go figure!  Such is sports, I guess.  Keene State is hard to figure too...they had a completely pathetic performance against UNE last week.  They are still missing a contributor and had similar issues last year with people in and out of the lineup, but there isn't an excuse for what I saw last Friday against a 2-7 team.  You indicated your Cardinals are shorthanded, so I hope they can get to full strength soon! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2017, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 03, 2017, 02:29:06 PM
Plattsburgh is coming off a 23 day layoff and bound to be rusty. Trinity played 2 games over the past weekend and got rid of any rust that had accumulated. I don't like the sound of that. Playing the Bantams in their gym will be challenging enough. To do so after such a period of inactivity could spell trouble for the Cardinals. To make matters worse my guys will be shorthanded tonight.

Hopefully your Cards will be "shorthanded" ( although missing J. Patron is like missing a whole arm) for 76 more hours!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 04, 2017, 12:01:52 PM
I find the announcement from the New York Governor interesting... tuition-free for schools (haven't read the details to know which ones specifically) could be an interesting recruiting change for many Division III schools.

I don't want to start a back and forth on the ramifications or whether it is good or bad... just thought if it goes through how much that could change the East Region and in particular this conference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 04, 2017, 03:03:40 PM
As a former New Yorker who still has close ties to SUNY, don't bet the ranch on it.

In other words ........never happen!!!!

Tuition assistance for low to medium income students has been available for years
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2017, 03:19:48 PM
Things that make you go hmmmmm....

Latest Massey rankings ( Could also be called "what have you done for me lately")

15  Rochester (-2 movement since last ranking)
38  St Lawrence (+35)
62  Geneseo (+22)
73  Buffalo St (+1)
76  Cortland
87  Brockport ( -39)
88  Hartwick (-5)
95  Skidmore (-13)
96  Oswego (-2)
105 Oneonta (+16)
114 St John Fisher (-28)
126 Hobart (-54)
138 Nazareth (-7)
151 RIT (-37)

SUNYAC teams highlighted and underlined

Note : SUNYAC has dropped down to 10th best conference  >:( >:( >:(

Boy, if you lose then Massey is brutal!  Makes Brockport vs St Lawrence even more important (IMHO). If our 1st place team can beat their first place team then....(I'll let the "experts" fill in the rest). Interesting enough. St Lawrence beat Clarkson last night in Double OT. Both Plattsburgh and Oswego have wins over Clarkson! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2017, 03:21:45 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 04, 2017, 12:01:52 PM
I find the announcement from the New York Governor interesting... tuition-free for schools (haven't read the details to know which ones specifically) could be an interesting recruiting change for many Division III schools.

I don't want to start a back and forth on the ramifications or whether it is good or bad... just thought if it goes through how much that could change the East Region and in particular this conference.

http://time.com/4621407/free-college-andrew-cuomo-bernie-sanders-new-york/

In case there are some who were wondering!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 04, 2017, 05:18:46 PM

Massachusetts has been doing free tuition at state schools for students in the top 10 or 15% (I forget which) of public school classes for a while.  I think it's upped the caliber of student they're able to attract, but I'm not sure it's had a huge impact on athletics.  SUNY and CUNY schools are already about the cheapest in-state options in the country, so I'm not sure where the pool of students would come from to change recruiting all that much - unless some kids are currently choosing community college over a state school, but I doubt that's very many.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 04, 2017, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 04, 2017, 05:18:46 PM

Massachusetts has been doing free tuition at state schools for students in the top 10 or 15% (I forget which) of public school classes for a while.  I think it's upped the caliber of student they're able to attract, but I'm not sure it's had a huge impact on athletics.  SUNY and CUNY schools are already about the cheapest in-state options in the country, so I'm not sure where the pool of students would come from to change recruiting all that much - unless some kids are currently choosing community college over a state school, but I doubt that's very many.

The trick to everything is that sometimes discounts, scholarships, and grants can get private tuition down to the same as public which can't change their tuition rates through discounts and the like. No, I am aware it doesn't happen all of the time, but it does happen. Otherwise, state schools would be an obvious choice for most.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 05, 2017, 01:04:25 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 04, 2017, 05:18:46 PM

Massachusetts has been doing free tuition at state schools for students in the top 10 or 15% (I forget which) of public school classes for a while.  I think it's upped the caliber of student they're able to attract, but I'm not sure it's had a huge impact on athletics.  SUNY and CUNY schools are already about the cheapest in-state options in the country, so I'm not sure where the pool of students would come from to change recruiting all that much - unless some kids are currently choosing community college over a state school, but I doubt that's very many.

Confirms why I've been losing some NY prospects recently to SUNY schools. :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 05, 2017, 08:48:18 AM
Quote from: ronk on January 05, 2017, 01:04:25 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 04, 2017, 05:18:46 PM

Massachusetts has been doing free tuition at state schools for students in the top 10 or 15% (I forget which) of public school classes for a while.  I think it's upped the caliber of student they're able to attract, but I'm not sure it's had a huge impact on athletics.  SUNY and CUNY schools are already about the cheapest in-state options in the country, so I'm not sure where the pool of students would come from to change recruiting all that much - unless some kids are currently choosing community college over a state school, but I doubt that's very many.

Confirms why I've been losing some NY prospects recently to SUNY schools. :(

My column today will touch on some of this.  The SUNY coaches I've talked to point to the rise of Honors Colleges within the state school system as a big reason they can compete with the privates - there is not a lot of academic difference unless you're really talking high level elite competition.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2017, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: jdex on January 04, 2017, 03:03:40 PM
As a former New Yorker who still has close ties to SUNY, don't bet the ranch on it.

In other words ........never happen!!!!

Tuition assistance for low to medium income students has been available for years

i wouldn't bet against  Governor Cuomo (I actually hate talking politics on these boards however) pulling this off. He's up for re-election in 2018 and if he is proposing something like this with this much fan fare, then you better believe that he has his duck(s) (assembly and Senate leaders) lined up!  Just saying (no more politics for me here)!  As a single father of 5 (thier mother passed away from cancer 12 years ago) and putting all 5 through college, anything that can help a family get their kid9s) through college, I'm ALL for!  ALL FOR. Damn the sports ramifications!!  Financial aid, as it is right now ( at least at Buffalo State and University of Buffalo) is a ..... (nevermind) >:(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on January 05, 2017, 01:42:06 PM
Couldn't agree more! Financial aid is a #$%^& and often is unjust, hope the Governor can pull this off. In terms of hoops, its been a while since my last appearance and it may have to stay that way with Buffalo States latest victories in Florida! I would hate to jinx them! They get a chance at some revenge this weekend against a Plattsburgh team who always seems to have a little homecookin' (opps did I say that out loud? ^.^). Would be a major win and some momentum going into the major stretch of the season. Anybody familiar with Plattsburghs live stream system? Happy new years to you gentlemen, be good and GO BENGALS.

Peace
LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 05, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
The Division III basketball season is back from the holiday "break" - though not much of a break for many of the teams - and with the start of the 2017 part of the schedule comes plenty to talk about. Upsets in the men's Top 25 and the shocking news at out UW-Stevens Point.

Thursday night on Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh tries to get everything wrapped up in the discarded Christmas wrapping left behind. Bob Semling suspended, Geneseo women deal with another tragedy, Top 25 teams sputtering as conference season heats up, and teams trying to make an impact from under the radar.\

Hoopsville hits the air at 7:00 PM ET. You can tune in live, watch it on Facebook Live, or catch-up on Demand here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2016-17/jan5

Tonight's guest list (in order of appearance):
- Daley Ryman, Sports Director, NewsChannel 7 (WSAW) - UWSP Suspensions
- Cheri Harrer, Baldwin Wallace women's coach
- Scott Hemer, SUNY Geneseo women's coach
- Chad Dickman, Hood men's coach
- Eric Bridgeland, No. 2 Whitman men's coach

You can also tune into the podcast(s) after the show has aired:
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2017, 10:39:27 AM
Well color me shocked.  Went up to Plattsburgh last night to cheer on my boys during their 2 game stint in the north country this weekend. Low and behold, when I woke up this morning I learned that the weather here in Plattsburgh is CONSIDERABLY BETTER than the weather in Buffalo!

Not sure if that's good or bad omen but.........! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 06, 2017, 10:43:30 AM
If John Patron is still out, it's a Good Omen for the Bengals regardless of the weather.
;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 06, 2017, 12:22:46 PM
Started the New Year 0-3.
It's time to get serious with my picks.
Pretty easy picks tonight in the SUNYAC.
There will be a lot of rust to dust off for a few teams tonight as they haven't played in almost a month.
That can't be good

Buffalo State all over Potsdam
Cortland all over New Paltz
Magicman's Cardinals all over Fredonia
Brockport at home over St Lawrence
And my Oneonta Red Dragons all over Oswego

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2017, 02:30:50 PM
Jan. 6      Nine of the ten teams are in action today with 4 conference matchups and a big non-conference game between Brockport and St. Lawrence.    

St. Lawrence  at  Brockport        5:00 PM   Co-Featured Game of the Day

The leader of the SUNYAC versus the leader of the Liberty League. The winner will get a boost in the Regional Rankings when they come out next month. And if the winner continues to do well will probably be ranked in 2nd place behind Rochester and possibly the top spot if the Yellowjackets falter. The Golden Eagles are coming off their worst spanking all year. The rust was evident against a Carnegie Mellon team that played above their heads, shot much better than Brockport and crashed the boards twice as good as the Eagles. St. Lawrence is coming off a double overtime win against North Country rival, Clarkson. The Larries are 8-1 and are currently 2-0 in the YAC with wins over Plattsburgh and Potsdam. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a slim 2 point favorite. I'm still not sold on St. Lawrence and Brockport can't possibly play as bad as they did this past Monday. Brockport 85 SLU 78.     

   
New Paltz State  at  Cortland State        5:30 PM

The Hawks have 1 win and have lost 5 of their 8 games by double digits. Yet their single win was against Springfield College on the road. Springfield has a 7-5 record and they own a win over Amherst who was ranked #1 in the D3hoops Top 25 and undefeated at the time. They have also beaten WPI who was ranked in the Top 25. So if the Hawks can beat the team, that beat the top ranked team in the country among others, it means you can't take them lightly regardless of their record. The Red Dragons have already beaten the Hawks in an earlier matchup that occurred just a month ago. Cortland only won that game by a 77-68 score but they had a 19 point lead at one point. The oddsmakers did their homework and they favor the Red Dragons by 20 points in today's contest. Cortland struggles to put teams away that aren't up to their level and their recent overtime win against Widener and loss the next day to Johns Hopkins are perfect examples of that. Yet they stomped Ithaca by nearly 40 points and beat Buff State by double digits. Hard to figure what the Red Dragons are going to do. Today, at home, I think they come out firing and take down the Hawks in a big way. Cortland wins this one 94-64.       


Buffalo State  at  Potsdam State        5:30 PM

Not much to expect here except a double digit victory by the Bengals. The Bengals bring a 7-3 overall record into this game and are coming off an 18 day vacation after winning a pair of decent games in Florida. Potsdam is still looking for their 2nd win of the season and unfortunately won't find it here. The oddsmakers have made Buffalo State a 17 point favorite and the Bears will be hard pressed to keep it that close. Buffalo State 90 Potsdam 70   

   
Oneonta State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

Oswego will be looking for revenge after dropping an earlier contest in Oneonta exactly 1 month ago. The Lakers did the same thing last year losing in Oneonta by 38 points and then winning in Oswego by an 80-72 margin. Oneonta is coming off 2 nice wins in Florida and hung with #25  Williams College on Tuesday night before eventually coming out on the short end of a 74-62 final score. Oswego hasn't played in almost a month and this same scenario unfolded last year when Oneonta played in a holiday tournament in Puerto Rico and came back to beat Oneonta by that 90-52 score. Oswego was off for over three weeks heading into that game. Could history repeat itself here? Will the Lakers be rusty again? The oddsmakers have made Oswego a slim 2 point favorite and I think the Lakers will also win a close game. In the past eleven years Oswego has struggled against the Red Dragons in Oneonta, but at home they have only lost to the Red Dragons once during that span. I think that is more than likely the history that will repeat. Oswego 76 Oneonta 71.   

   
Fredonia State  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM

Plattsburgh State returned to action on Tuesday night against Trinity College. To say the Cardinals were rusty is an understatement. They had more rust than the Tin Man did when Dorothy first ran into him. Hopefully tonight they will be a well oiled machine. The Cardinals have to put something together, because a three game losing streak has seriously put a dent into their aspirations of making the NCAA tournament, once again this year. With so many quality teams in the YAC and only 6 spots available in the conference tournament, every game from this point forward will have huge implications. Fredonia is looking to spoil someone's plans and grab one of those 6 spots as theirs. A win tonight and tomorrow at Potsdam will put them in a playoff position.  The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 12 point favorite in this one, which seems odd since the Cardinals won by 18 at Fredonia. If Plattburgh isn't at full strength that margin may be correct. Plattsburgh still wins this game, regardless of who is on the floor for them tonight. Plattsburgh State  81 Fredonia 66.        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2017, 09:09:15 PM
Brockport State 79 St Lawrence 73

I had the Golden Eagles winning this important inter-league contest by an 85-78 final score. The margin of victory was only off by a single point.

The Golden Eagles were up by 16 at the break and reached a game high lead of 21 early in the 2nd half. They led by double figures throughout most of the 2nd period, until the Saints, down by 12 at 72-60 got back to back 3 pointers and cut the lead to 5 points. Another 3 pointer with 1:22 left in the game cut the margin to 3 points at 74-71, but Brockport hit 5 of 6 from the line in the final seconds to put the Saints away.

Hamed Shamseldin led the Eagles with 21 points off the bench. Devonn Gavin added 17 points, Jon Carnegie had 12 and Cordell Torres dropped in 10.
Justin Summers had a game high 7 rebounds. Marcus Blythers and Carnegie both had 6 boards. Matt Smith added 6 points and 7 assists.

The Larries got 19 points from Riley Naclerio. They got 14 points, 5 assists and a game high 7 rebounds from Kyle Edwards. Kyle Kobis and Ben Crawford both tossed in 11 points.

Brockport was able to pull off this win without the services of leading scorer, Clifton Lyerly. Had he played I'm confident the team would have scored the 85 points I said they would. He averages

Coach Dunn utilized a different starting lineup than his normal one and because of this, his bench scored 53 of the 79 points the team put on the scoreboard. Maybe he should  try that same strategy tomorrow against Geneseo.

Brockport improves to 9-2 and will hit the road to play their travel partner tomorrow at 2:00 PM in Geneseo.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2017, 10:04:04 PM
Fredonia State 86  Plattsburgh State 83

Fredonia pulls off the SUNYAC's biggest upset of the year so far as they defeat Plattsburgh on the road by a 86-83 final score. The Blue Devils played the best game I've seen them play in a number of years. Each time the Cardinals would gain the lead Fredonia would fight back to reclaim the advantage. The teams traded leads 13 times and had 7 ties with many of them occurring in the final few minutes of play. The game changer occurred after Ian Helps scored on a layup to give the Blue Devils an 84-83 edge with 1:19 remaining. Plattsburgh came up empty on their possession, missing a 3 point attempt and Helps grabbed the defensive rebound with a minute to go. Fredonia threw the ball away with 33 seconds to play giving the Cards another opportunity to make the game winner. Plattsburgh took a time out and dribbled the clock down and went inside to Jon Patron. He was immediately double teamed as the Blue Devils seemed to be anticipating that he would end up with the ball. (Especially since the last two baskets scored by Plattsburgh were getting the ball inside to Patron who would then maneuver his way to the hoop for a layup.)  Patron lost control of the ball as the Blue Devils swarmed around him and Fredonia recovered with 7 seconds on the clock. Plattsburgh fouled Keith Ruiz with 7 seconds left and he made both free throws to give them a 3 point lead. Plattsburgh hurried the ball down the floor and threw up a 3 pointer that was off target. The ball went out of bounds off Fredonia and the buzzer sounded. The refs had blown the whistle before the buzzer went off so 4 tenths of a second was put back on the clock. The Cards had time to inbound a catch and shoot, 3 point attempt, from the corner that didn't go down.

Fredonia was led by 18 points from Kareem Brown.

Nicc Jonson had 15 points, 3 assists and 3 steals.

Ian Helps had 13 points and a team high 7 rebounds.

Brandon Hodge also had 13 points and 2 assists.

Richard De La Cruz had 10 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists.



Plattsburgh got a game high 21 points from Eli Bryant. He made 5 three pointers to lead the way for the Cardinals.

Jon Patron had 17 points, 7 rebounds and a team high 4 assists.

Nick DeAngelis had 12 points and he got Plattsburgh back in contention when they were 9 points down, by making 4 three pointers, in a 3 and a half minute stretch. The freshman was the main reason that the Cardinals went from a 64-55 deficit with 12 minutes to go to a lead of 71-67 with 8:30 to go.

Eric Mack had 9 points and 4 rebounds.

Chris Middleton had 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Fredonia improves to 5-7 overall and 2-3 in the SUNYAC. They will travel over to Potsdam to face the Bears at 2:00 PM tomorrow.

Plattsburgh drops to 6-5 overall and 2-3 in the SUNYAC. They will host Buffalo State tomorrow at 2:00 PM       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2017, 10:39:52 PM
Buffalo State  91  Potsdam State 62

I had the Bengals winning this one 90-70 so I was pretty close with the Buff State part. The Bears were down 50-28 at the break allowing the Bengals to cruise home a winner. Potsdam did close the gap to 12 points midway through the second period, but the Bengals hit the afterburner and took off once more with a 20-6 burst that gave them a 77-51 margin with 5:26 to go.

Jordan Glover led the Bengals with 22 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds and 4 steals

Lovell Smith had 17 points, 5 rebounds, 5 steals and 1 assist.

Dom Grayer had 15 points and 3 rebounds.

Nico McLean came off the bench and scored 13 points, with 2 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Mike Henry had 8 rebounds, 7 points, 6 steals and 3 assists. 


Potsdam got a double-double from Nosa Onabor with 18 points and a game high 11 rebounds.

Jayquan Thomas added 15 points.

Serigne Kane had 8 points and 5 rebounds.

Danny Delsol-Lowry  had 7 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.

Kristoff Saunders had 5 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

Buffalo State improves to 8-3 overall and 2-3 in the conference. They will travel to Plattsburgh to face the Cardinals at 2:00 PM tomorrow.

Potsdam falls to 1-10 overall and 0-5 in the YAC. They will host Fredonia at 2:00 PM tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2017, 10:44:10 PM
Oswego State 87  Oneonta State 78

Correctly called the Oswego State win in this game but only had the score as 76-71.

This game was much closer than the final score indicates.

Oswego grabbed the early lead at 12-4 and built it to a 17-9 advantage which was the largest lead of the first half. Oneonta managed to narrow the gap to 3 points at the break and were down by a 40-37 score.

The Red Dragons would stay within striking distance but could never get the equalizer the entire 2nd half. Four times they got the lead down to a single possession early in the final period, but then Oswego State, ahead 44-41 with 18:40 left in the half, used a 13-2 run to open up a 14 point lead at 57-43 with 15:25 to go. It was the largest lead of the game but the Lakers couldn't maintain it, as Oneonta came back with a 15-5 run of their own, to cut the lead to 4 points, at 62-58, with 10 minutes to play. With 4 minutes to go a Mikey McElroy basket brought the Red Dragons to 74-72 and with 2 minutes left he made 1 of 2 from the line to cut it to a single point, at 79-78. The Lakers' Mykelle Krecko scored inside, and when Oneonta came up empty on their possession, Brian Sortino knocked down a pair of free throws, to up the Laker lead to 5 points with a minute left. Once again the Red Dragons misfired and had to foul with time running out. Sortino made them pay with another 2 points from the line. Another miss and 2 more foul shots for Sortino would round out the scoring.

The Lakers were led by 20 points each from Brian Sortino and Keith Tyson. Sortino added 5 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal. Tyson had 3 rebounds a steal and a block.

Mykelle Krecko had a double-double of 14 points and 14 rebounds. He also had 4 blocks.

Ian Schupp also scored 14 point with 3 boards and 1 assist.


Oneonta's Mikey McElroy captured scoring honors with 22 points and had 3 rebounds.

Lawrence Coleman had 20 points, 8 rebounds, and 2 assists.

Frankie Kelly had 11 points, 7 rebounds, and 3 assists.

Oswego improved to 8-3 overall and 4-1 in the YAC. They will host New Paltz on Saturday at 2:00 PM.

Oneonta falls to 6-6 overall and 3-2 in conference play. They will be at Cortland on Saturday for a 2:00 start.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2017, 10:51:57 PM
Cortland State 91  New Paltz State 76

I had Cortland winning by a 94-64 final. Fairly accurate on the Cortland total but the Hawks were closer than I thought they would be.

New Paltz actually had the lead for the first 12 minutes of this game and the Hawks were only down 4 points with 7:30 left to play. New Paltz led for a large portion of the first half, by as much as 7 points and the Red Dragons finally caught them at 30-30 with 9:26 to play. The teams were still tied at 39-39 with 5 minutes to go when the Red Dragons began to assert themselves and ripped off an 11-0 run to go up 50-39. The Hawks' Nick Paquette hit a 3 pointer to send the team into the break with Cortland up 50-42.

The lead hovered around 8 to 12 points for most of the 2nd period but the Hawks did manage to get within 4 points with 7:32 left to play. Ten seconds later though, Justin Cooper, who didn't miss a shot the entire game, nailed another 3 pointer, followed by a Carrell Joseph 3 pointer and the lead was back to double digits. The Red Dragons would lengthen it to a game high of 16 points to close out the Hawks.

Justin Cooper captured scoring honors with 27 points as he was Mister Perfection going 10x10 from the field, 2x2 from long range and 5x5 from the charity stripe. Hitting all 15 shots should qualify you for some kind of special award from the NCAA. Something like they give bowlers when they shoot a perfect game. A ring...a belt buckle...something to signify the occasion. Justin just missed a double double as he also was the leading rebounder in the game with 9 boards. He also added 4 assists, 3 steals and a block. Certainly a contender for Player of the Week honors.

James Morales wasn't perfect but he was pretty darn good with 26 points on 9x14 shooting from the field. He was 3x7 from long range and 5x6 from the line. He also had 4 rebounds and a game high 6 assists.

Nicky Bonura had 11 points in 18 minutes off the bench.

Carrell Joseph had 9 points , 2 rebounds, 2 assists, a steal and a block.

Michael Kelly had 7 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.


Nick Paquette and Andrew Seniuk both had 17 points and 5 rebounds to lead New Paltz. Seniuk added 4 assists, 3 blocks and 2 steals while Paquette had a pair of assists.

Corey Garcia had 12 points,  a game high 6 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.

Dyan Balducci had 12 points 4 rebounds, and 1 assist.

James Saunders had 10 points in 16 minutes off the bench.

Malik Seelal had 6 points 3 rebounds and 3 assists in 17 minutes on the court.

Cortland improves to 9-3  overall and 4-1 in the conference. They will host Oneonta on Saturday at 2:00 PM .

New Paltz drops to 1-9 overall and 0-5 in the YAC. They travel to Oswego for a 2:00 PM start on Saturday against the Lakers. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on January 06, 2017, 11:28:00 PM
But you the "magic man "!!


What's your take on Cortland getting a bid this year.

Go Red Dragons!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2017, 01:42:59 AM
My Beloved BENGALS win.
Today it was at least 10 degrees warmer in Plattsburgh than Buffalo.
   Lovell Smith scores his 1,000th point in a Buffalo State uniform. 
     And there were some good wings at Buffalo Wild Wings tonight to finish off the night!

Biggest game of 2017 in 12 hours!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2017, 09:45:54 AM
Quote from: TheOsprey on January 06, 2017, 11:28:00 PM
But you the "magic man "!!


What's your take on Cortland getting a bid this year.

Go Red Dragons!!

Better than your Ospreys!  ;D  I sent you a PM giving you a rundown.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on January 07, 2017, 11:14:54 AM
Thanks. mm

P.S.  the above quote was missing the background music of Heart. Ba-dum-ba, Ba-dum-ba, Ba-dum-ba...! 😊
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2017, 01:18:05 PM
Jan. 7  All ten teams in action with 5 conference games today.   

Fredonia State  at  Potsdam State        2:00 PM

Potsdam State still looking for their first conference win under new coach Jim Bechtel.  Many times in the past few years Fredonia was the game they got that win. After watching the Blue Devils in action last night I don't think that will happen today. Oddsmakers have made the Blue Devils a 7 point favorite. I think they win by a few more. Fredonia 77 Potsdam 66.

Brockport State  at  Geneseo State        2:00 PM Featured Game of the Day

Any one of 4 teams could be in first place all alone at the end of today. This game will go a long way in determining that possibility. If Brockport wins they will still be the only undefeated team in the conference. If the Knights wins then a number of things have to happen for them to be in sole possession of the top spot. Prmarily, Cortland and Oswego would have to lose or Geneseo, even with a win, would remain a half game behind that pair.

Last year Brockport won in Geneseo and Geneseo won in Brockport. With each team returning the bulk of last year's lineups it means that home court doesn't hold much value. Both teams are coming off wins and Geneseo is well rested since they didn't play last night.

The oddsmakers have listed Geneseo as 5 point favorites in this game, possibly because Clifton Lyerly, the top scorer for the Golden Eagles didn't play last night against St. Lawrence. I'm pretty sure Lyerly will be in the lineup today. I'm having a hard time choosing a winner in this game but I'm going to go with the underdog Golden Eagles even though it's their 2nd game in two days and the Knights had yesterday off. Final score  Brockport 81 Geneseo 77.     



Oneonta  State  at  Cortland State        2:00 PM

The annual battle of Red Dragons with round one taking place in Cortland. Round two is just 10 days down the road. The oddsmakers have made the home team a 5 point favorite in this game and I have no reason to think that's out of line. Cortland won both meetings last year. Oneonta won both meetings the year before that. This one should go right down to the wire. Cortland wins by an 85-82 final score

New Paltz State  at  Oswego State        2:00 PM

The Hawks still looking for a win in the YAC and it won't be tonight against the Lakers. They hung around against Cortland for quite a while yesterday, but hanging around and winning are two different things. They are 19 point underdogs here. I don't think they will lose by that much but they won't be much closer either. Oswego State wins by a 79- 65 final.

Buffalo State  at  Plattsburgh State        2:00 PM

These two teams are headed in opposite directions. The Bengals have won 3 in a row, after a lost weekend in Central New York, back in early December. The Cardinals after winning 3 in a row in early December, including a win over Liberty League leader, Skidmore, have now dropped 4 straight games. They haven't lost 4 games in a row since January of 2012, when they were in the midst of a major rebuilding year. Buffalo State, after falling behind in the conference race early on is trying to catch up to the rest of the leaders. The Cardinals beat the Bengals in Buffalo last month but I'm not sure they can do it again on their home court. The oddsmakers had Plattsburgh listed as a slight favorite several days ago. That changed overnight with the Cardinals loss to Fredonia. The Bengals are now a 2 point favorite. I think that Plattsburgh is in a funk and the  Bengals are not the team to be playing against when you're trying to break out of a funk. I think that Buffalo State wins this game by an 88-83 margin but I sure hope I'm wrong about this one. Go Cardinals!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 07, 2017, 01:27:01 PM
5 games on tap today
The game of the day is Magicman's Cardinals vs The Buffalo State Bengals.
I think the Magicman needs to  bring his Magic Wand to Memorial hall today for this game.
I hope the Cardinals have a very short memory and move past getting upset last night by Fredonia.
Don't think they can do it as Buffalo State wins this one in a barn burner.

Fredonia coming off a huge upset of Plattsburgh last night continues there winning ways by beating Potsdam in a close one.

Oswego easily over New Paltz

Brockport coming off a good win against St. Lawrence should handle Geneseo today.

What Red Dragons team will win the rivalry match-up between Oneonta and Cortland. I'm picking the Oneonta Red Dragons in another close one.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2017, 08:15:28 PM
The magicman brought his magic wand to Memorial Hall today. And his magic potion and cloak of invisibility. It didn't matter nothing worked. I even tried my reverse psychology trick and picked the Bengals to win instead of my Cardinals. Useless. I must have lost my mojo. I remember the Bengals lost their mojo few years ago and I had to help them find it. Now I need help locating mine.

Buffalo State 110 Plattsburgh State 93 

This game was much closer than the final score indicates.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2017, 08:21:29 PM
Oneonta State 95  Cortland State 86

The Red Dragons win the Battle of the Red Dragons. The Oneonta variety continues to pull off some big wins in the conference. This one in the lair of their rival at Corey Gym.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2017, 08:29:43 PM
Fredonia State 70  Potsdam State 61

The last time Fredonia had a 3 game winning streak and won 2 conference games in a row was in January of 2012 when they beat Plattsburgh, Potsdam and Oneonta in consecutive games. The Blue Devils are definitely improving.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2017, 08:35:12 PM
Oswego State 98  New Paltz State 69

The Lakers could smell first place, all by themselves, when they heard the other scores at halftime. They exploded for 57 second half points, to put to rest any Hawk hopes of a comeback, as the Hawks were only down by 9 at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2017, 08:45:07 PM
Geneseo State 86  Brockport State 66

The Knights did their part to tighten up the conference race by beating the Golden Eagles....handily I might add. Not everything fell their way to take over first place by their lonesome but I'm sure they are happy with today's outcome. They are a half game out of first and in 2nd all by themselves since they hold the tiebreaker over Brockport....for the time being. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2017, 11:13:57 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 07, 2017, 08:15:28 PM
The magicman brought his magic wand to Memorial Hall today. And his magic potion and cloak of invisibility. It didn't matter nothing worked. I even tried my reverse psychology trick and picked the Bengals to win instead of my Cardinals. Useless. I must have lost my mojo. I remember the Bengals lost their mojo few years ago and I had to help them find it. Now I need help locating mine.

Buffalo State 110 Plattsburgh State 93 

This game was much closer than the final score indicates.   

Magicman speaks the truth!  Game was considerably closer than final score indicates!  This game was well worth the ride. As one who has been to memorial gymnasium and walked away disappointed 4 years in a row ( last BENGAL win at Plattsburgh was Feb 12 2012), this one was special !

Being down 55-49 at half and then down by double digits in the 2nd half, before winning by 17 makes this win special. 5 players in double figures adds even a little better taste to this ( and makes the 7/8 hour ride home more palatable). 

Having an opportunity to sit and chat with the Magicman for the 4th, or 5th year, in a row makes this trip, like all others, worthwhile! 

Bottom line when the smoke clears. It's a win. ;)  No more...no less,  unless you have the history in Plattsburgh that my BENGALS have.....then it may qualify as a "special" win, truly special  :D!  This win won't help us next week vs Brockport on Tuesday nor Geneseo next Friday. There are no bonus points given that we can add to the score board next Tuesday! Brockport, like Plattsburgh, have both been a major pain in the BENGAL ---!  Need to keep winning because 3 wins in SUNYAC don't qualify us for squat come post season. Oswego , Plattsburgh, Cortland and  Brockport have the most playoff appearances in the past 4 years, and there's nothing that I've seen from any of them that would indicate that they aren't prepared to go back to the dance this year!

Geneseo is the hottest team in Sunyac ( and just crushed Brockport tonight) and is currently sitting in 2nd place! Oneonta under Curle disciple, Cam Conover, has found their way and look better than any one can remember in recent memory ! Fredonia is on a 3 game win streak. Let me repeat, a 3 game win streak!  And in a conference where I predict that
A the regular season champ will have at least 3/4 conference losses and
B SUNYAC will get AT least 3 bids,
you can't count out either New Paltz nor Potsdam!

So the road ahead for my beloved BENGALS hasn't really gotten easier! It's just todays stop in this long journey, was sweet, real sweet :) !  Gonna enjoy this one for a few more hours because when I get home I know the wife is gonna be gripping with me about Sunday chores! :(

Proud of these boys

Go BENGALS !!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 09, 2017, 12:10:12 AM
Back from a week loong vacation in the Virgin islands and Compton California its the

                                                                        uSUNYAC team of the week
This weeks team is

Brian Sortino  - Oswego - ( 2 games) averaged 20 ppg and 5.5 assist per game in 2 victories over New Paltz and Oneonta.

Lovell Smith - Buffalo State - (2) averaged 20.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg and 4 steals per game in 2 victories over Potsdam and Plattsburgh.

Lawrence Coleman - Oneonta (3) averaged 20 ppg and 9 rpg in a win vs Cortland and losses vs Williams college and Oswego.

John Decker - Geneseo (1) scored 23 points and had 5 assists in victory vs Brockport.

Jordan Glover - Buffalo State (2) averaged 19.5 ppg, 5 assists per game and 5 steals per game in 2 victories over Potsdam and Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on January 09, 2017, 11:33:41 AM
After looking at the box score from the Bengals trip to Plattsburgh I noticed something...something I foreshadowed a few days ago...something about, home cookin' was it? Although the fouls were called pretty evenly (27 for Buffalo State 30 for Plattsburgh) that doesn't negate the fact that there were 57 foul calls in the game...Ill let that sink in...57! Happy to see the BENGALS get the win! Was also surprised to see the Magicmans Cards drop a home bout to Fredonia, which makes it 5 Losses in a row now? Ay Caramba what is going on in Cardinal land! Nonetheless, the Bengals improve with another quality win and prepare for a big week in the Yac'. The Magicmans cards had a lot of fun at the expense of the Bengals in the past, but not this time! I was fortunate enough to catch a game last year but had my heart broken when the Cards stuck a dagger into the heart of the BENGALS in Buffalo via a game winning shot. So this was revenge. Ok im done! BOY THE YAC JUST GOT INTERESTING. Be good.

Peace
LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 10, 2017, 03:01:01 PM
4 Games on tap today involving SUNYAC teams:

Can Fredonia continue their winning ways against a tough Geneseo team at home.
Fredonia's gym is a tough place to play in, but I think the Red Hot Knights will prevail.
Geneseo in a close one.

Can Brockport shake off getting smacked by Geneseo last weekend.
I think Buffalo State's win at Plattsburgh last weekend is the turning point of their season.
Buffalo State wins this one at Home in a barn burner.

Oswego continues their winning ways against St Lawrence. Oswego is coming together as they always do the 2nd half of the season.

Tough game to call, Stevenson 1-13 against New Paltz 1-10. I'm going with the Home team and picking New Paltz to win.
Go SUNYAC.

Enjoy the games


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2017, 04:50:19 PM
Had all my picks made and typed with my usual banter. Hit post and my computer wouldn't bring up the page. The old... this page not responding message.  Lost my entire post. Too busy to do it again.

Oswego wins 78-73 over SLU

Geneseo wins 83-75 over Fredonia

Buffalo State wins 87-81 over Brockport

Steveson wins  75-70 over New Paltz.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on January 11, 2017, 09:02:04 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 10, 2017, 04:50:19 PM
Had all my picks made and typed with my usual banter. Hit post and my computer wouldn't bring up the page. The old... this page not responding message.  Lost my entire post. Too busy to do it again.

Oswego wins 78-73 over SLU

Geneseo wins 83-75 over Fredonia

Buffalo State wins 87-81 over Brockport

Steveson wins  75-70 over New Paltz.

Don't you just hate when that happens? It was likely your most brilliant post, too! I've done the same thing with my potentially Pulitzer Prize-winning Posts!

Saxons drop second straight heartbreaker, 62-61 at Utica. Grrrrrrr!


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 11, 2017, 10:21:02 AM
Tough loss last night for my BENGALS.  I had to miss the game too which made it doubly rough ( Buff State broadcast was visually horrible, and I even tried to by the $5.00 "ticket" for high def quality).  But that didn't work either!  Not sure if a 1 pt loss, like last night, hurts more / less than a blowout! It does suck nonetheless!

Can't mope around too much. Geneseo is coming to town Friday and we all know what the SUNYACs most explosive team can do when the get hot!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2017, 12:52:35 PM
Wow. SUNYAC season is already 1/3rd over and the race is as tight as ever. 3 teams with 1 loss. 3 teams with 4 losses.  And 2 teams with 2 losses.  Anyone of these 8 could finish #1 seed by Feb 18th. I'm glad that the Yac non conference record was very good because beating up on each other for the next 5 weeks is gonna damage someone's chances to get invited to the dance.  I still believe that at least 3 teams will make it to NCAAs this year.  Sure praying hard for 1 of them!

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2017, 12:04:42 PM
Jan. 13     4 games on tap today that are all SUNYAC conference games. All of them tip off at 5:30 PM   


Geneseo State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM Featured Game of the Day

Geneseo on a 6 game winning streak and in a tie for first place in the YAC with Oswego and Brockport, all at 5-1.  The Bengals with a little luck could be right up there as well except for a 1 point loss to Oswego and on Tuesday another 1 point loss to Brockport. Tonight they could have another 1 point loss to the 3rd member of the triumvirate at the top. The oddsmakers have favored the Bengals by a single point and I'd like to see the Bengals win and tighten up the top of the standings but the R&D department of Geneseo (Ringen and Decker) will be hard to stop. I think Geneseo wins by an 87-83 final score. 

   
Cortland State  at  Potsdam State    5:30 PM

It's the on again...off again Red Dragons. And tonight they're in the on again mode. Potsdam looking for their initial conference win won't get it today. The point spread has Cortland favored by 14 but I think they win by a few more. Cortland 89 Potsdam 70.


Brockport State  at  Fredonia State    5:30 PM

The Golden Eagles started out 6-0 but have struggled to a 4-3 mark over their last seven games. And two of those 3 losses were blowouts. Hopefully they got their mind right with the win over Buff State on Tuesday. They take on the Bengals again tomorrow but they better not look ahead to that matchup. The team at hand, the Blue Devils, beat Brockport last year in overtime and they return most of those players to try and do it again. Fredonia lost to Geneseo on Tuesday but a weekend sweep up north put them in a tie for the final playoff spot. The point spread favors the Golden Eagles by a 6 point margin. I think they win by more than that. Brockport 82 Fredonia 71.


Oswego State  at  Plattsburgh State     5:30 PM

Always a battle when these two teams meet. They have played 12 times in the past 5 years and the record is 6-6. The Cardinals are looking for some revenge as the Lakers have beaten Plattsburgh in the YAC playoffs the last two years, both times in Plattsburgh. So home court means nothing in this series. The Cardinals have defeated Oswego in 3 of the past 4 years on the Lakers home court.

Oswego, tied for first place in the YAC, had their 4 game winning streak broken on Tuesday night against St. Lawrence. With a little luck and a win tonight they could be all alone at the top by the end of the day. The Cardinals haven't played up to their capabilities and are currently in the midst of their longest losing streak in 5 years. They have lost five in a row and four straight conference games in Memorial Hall. They have their backs to the wall and if they hope to get back into the conference race, they will need a pair of wins this weekend. They also face the uneasy fact that their final five conference games are all on the road. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a slim 2 point favorite in this one. I'm going with the Cardinals to pull this one out and gain a measure of revenge over the Lakers. Plattsburgh 84 Oswego 79.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 13, 2017, 01:04:02 PM
4 Games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC.
2 tough match-ups.

Geneseo at Buffalo State.
Will Geneseo continues their winning ways tonight in Buffalo.
The Bengals have had some very tough luck lately.
I Love the buffalo state arena, but a tough place to shoot the 3.
Ringen and Decker are coming off a tough shooting game against Fredonia.
I think it's more of the same tonight in buffalo.
I have Buffalo State winning this one by double digits.

The other tough game on Tap tonight is Oswego at the Magicman's Memorial Hall.
Like the Magicman said Oswego has beaten Plattsburgh the last 2 years in the SUNYAC Tournament at Memorial Hall.
I know the Magicman will have his Magic Wand along with some Magic potion in the Plattsburgh's Gatorade tub tonight.
I think the Cardinals pull this one out in a very high scoring affair.

Cortland all over Potsdam and Brockport all over Fredonia.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2017, 03:29:07 AM
Oswego State 83 Plattsburgh State 82

Another exciting game between these teams that went right down to the wire. Oswego went in front after some early back and forth play with an 11-0 run that gave them a 16-9 lead. The last 6 points of that run came from back to back 3 pointers by Ian Schupp and Brian Sortino. The Lakers would slowly extend the margin to a double digit lead at 25-15, then got another 3 pointer from Sortino and a pair from Schupp to grab their largest lead of the game at 36-20 with 6:47 left in the half. A 12-3 burst brought the Cardinals closer and narrowed the gap to 39-34, with 3:19 to play. Eli Bryant had 5 of those points and Brandon Johnson had 4.  The Lakers put the brakes on the Plattsburgh comeback by scoring the next 5 points, to once again go up by double digits. The Cardinals weren't done however, and  would come all the way back as they scored the final 10 points of the period. The teams went into the break deadlocked at 44.

The second half seemed like deja vu all over again as Sortino opened with a 3 pointer and scored on a drive to the hoop. Schupp followed with a jumper and then Jamir Ferebee did likewise. After the Cards missed on their end, Ferebee came down and buried a 3 pointer and was fouled on the play. He made the free throw and the Lakers had once again built a double digit lead at 57-46 with 16:07 remaining in the period.  Plattsburgh regrouped again and got 5 straight points from Brandon Johnson on a jumper and a 3 point play. Ian Howard followed with a pair of layups and then Eric Mack got 3 straight baskets on a jumper and two quick moves to the rim. The Cardinals were only down 3, at 64-61, and a pair of free throws from Jon Patron, followed by a layup from Adam Jaquish, gave the Cardinals their first lead since the the game was only 4 minutes old. The lead was a short one, though, as Ian Schupp did what Ian Schupp does...buried another 3 pointer (his fourth) to put the Lakers back in front.  Ferebee followed with his third 3 pointer after the Cardinals missed 4 opportunities to tie or take the lead, including several missed free throws. The final 6 minutes featured two teams slugging it out as the Lakers led by Sortino and Keith Tyson managed to stay in front of the Cardinals led by Mack and Ian Howard. Oswego's final 13 points were all scored by Sortino (9) or Tyson (4). Plattsburgh's final 17 points were scored by Mack (8), Howard (6) and a 3 pointer by Eli Bryant that set the stage for the final possessions.

After a Sortino free throw made the score 81-77 with 32 seconds to go the Lakers took a time out. Plattsburgh set up a play for Mack that had Bryant bringing up the ball and as he approached the 3 point arc sent an alley-oop pass that was grabbed and jammed by Mack to cut the margin to one possession. With 21 seconds left Sortino was fouled once again and he made both free throws to build the lead back to 4 points. Plattsburgh rushed the ball to their end and Bryant connected on a 3 pointer from the corner to cut the lead to a single point,83-82, with 16 ticks on the clock. After a Plattsburgh time out the Cardinals attemped to steal the inbounds pass and when that failed they fouled. The Lakers were not in the double bonus and when they missed the front end of the 1&1 the Cardinals got the rebound and had one last chance. They called a time out. Then the Lakers called a time out. The Cards brought it up and a decent attempt at a three pointer was off the mark. Plattsburgh fouled with 2 tenths of a second left. The Lakers missed the free throw and a full court heave by the Cards wasn't close. The Lakers had claimed their 4th straight victory on Plattsburgh's homecourt.

Attendance was only listed at 160 because the college is not in session but the 160 fans that showed up got treated to a great game. They saw the best of Division III basketball Friday night with two teams that are rivals, that have consistently made the NCAA tournament over the past decade. They witnessed some great shooting, some outstanding drives to the basket, some thrilling comebacks, and players on both teams taking control of the game for their team. It's too bad that someone has to lose these games. It's really, really, too bad when it's my Cardinals. :(

Two final thoughts. Laker Brian Sortino made a huge mistake when he decided to go to Oswego. He should have went to Plattsburgh. In his last 4 games at the Cards' Memorial Hall he's scored 109 points and dished out 24 assists. You've heard of "Horses for Courses" well Plattsburgh would have been his Belmont Park. Only God knows how many points he would have scored in a Cardinal uniform, but I guarantee it would have been more than he'll score as a Laker. ;)     

The Cardinals' high flying Eric Mack gets to the rim quicker than anybody in the SUNYAC and his moves were on display all night long on both ends of the floor. He ended up with 7 blocks on the night and actually had at least 9. The men blowing the whistles incorrectly called him for a foul on one block and goaltending on another. For a guy that's only 6'3" tall I'll take his vertical leap over anybody in all of Division III. I've seen at least 180 teams in DIII play a game, including most of the good ones, and I've yet to see anyone jump like Eric. 8-)

The Lakers
Brian Sortino had a double-double as he captured scoring honors with 25 points and had a game high 12 assists. When he wasn't driving and scoring he was dishing to an open teammate for a number of easy baskets. It was the last time I'll see him play in person. Part of me says good, no more Sortino to worry about, but I'll miss his game just the same. He was a pleasure to watch during his career. Hope Coach Leone gave him my message. I tried to see him after the game but the team was already on the bus. I thought they were hanging around to watch the women's game but the teams had separate buses.

Jamir Ferebee had 19 points and hit some big 3 pointers for the Lakers. He was 3 of 4 from downtown.

Ian Schupp had 16 points and also hurt the Cardinals with his long distance shots as he made 4 of 7.

Mykelle Krecko led the team with 12 rebounds, which tied for the game high. He added 6 points, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Got a chance to visit with the big guy in his last visit to Memorial Hall. He's another one that got away after spending his first 2 years in Plattsburgh playing for the local junior college. I hoped he would transfer to Plattsburgh. A 6'10" guy would have fit right in the Cardinal lineup...or just about anyone's!

Keith Tyson had 8 points, 4 boards, a block and a steal.


The Cardinals
Eric Mack led Plattsburgh with 21 points off the bench. He had 8 rebounds, 7 blocks, 3 assists and a steal. His 7 blocks just missed tying a team record of 8 blocks set back in 2005 by Jelani Simmons. If we had a different crew reffing the game (a crew who actually knew the rules) Eric would have been credited with 9 blocks and set a new record.

Ian Howard had a career high 20 points and completed a double-double with a game high 12 rebounds. 7 of those rebounds came on the offensive end. He was 9 of 11 from the field. He also added a block and a steal.

Brandon Johnson had 13 points, 7 assists (a new career high), 2 rebounds and a steal in 29 minutes off the bench.

Eli Bryant added 10 points, 2 steals and 2 assists.

Chris Middleton had 7 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds.

The Lakers were 31x63 from the field (49.2%). The Cardinals were 31x61 (50.8%).  The long ball was a difference maker as Oswego made 12x25 (48%) from behind the arc while the Cardinals were just 4x17 (23.5%). The Lakers were only 9x18 (50%) from the line and while the Cardinals had a slightly better percentage of 57.1%, they were only 16x28 from the line which included just 3 of 10 in the 2nd half. If they shoot 50% from the line in the 2nd half they win the game.

The teams both ended up with 36 rebounds, Plattsburgh had a season low 7 turnovers and the Lakers only had 10. The Cardinals had 20 assisted baskets, the Lakers had 17.

Oswego improves to 10-4 overall and 6-1 in the YAC. They went from a 3 way tie for first place to a 2 way tie as Brockport won and Geneseo lost on Friday night. Oswego will travel to Potsdam to face the Bears later today at 2:00 PM.

Plattsburgh falls to 6-7 overall and 2-5 in the conference. They are now in 8th place and will have to climb over a few bodies to make the playoffs. They will host Cortland later today in a 2:00 PM tipoff.           



     

                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2017, 04:41:30 AM
Buffalo State 110 Geneseo State 104

A track meet in the Queen City and it looks like Mike Henry played the part of Usain Bolt with his career high 42 points.That's a gold medal performance for sure. He also had 14 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and a block. I would like to know why in hell he passed the ball 3 times to get those 3 assists. I figure if you're shooting 15x18 from the field and 4x4 from downtown you probably cost your team some points by passing 3 times for 6 points instead of taking 3 more 3 pointers and getting 9 points. :D

Had I known Henry was going to go off for 42 points and the Bengals would tie a team record for 3 pointers I would have picked them to win this game.

Did somebody dress Jake Simmons up in a Dom Grayer disguise? I know it wasn't Kevin Marmolejos because he's too tall. I'm guessing the 27 points is a career high for Grayer as well. He added 5 rebounds and 1 assist.

J.O.Spence also had a career high of 18 points in 22 minutes off the bench. He had 4 rebounds and 1 assist.

Nico McLean with 10 points,8 assists, 5 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 blocks.

Lovell Smith with 9 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks.


Geneseo's R&D show was pretty good as well as Justin Ringer scored 27 points, with 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Kevin Crockett had 21 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists.

John Decker had "just" 19 points, 4 assists and a rebound.

Jack Eisenberg and 18 points, 6 assists and 5 rebounds.

Buffalo State was tied with the Knights at 39 apiece, but the Bengals put together an 11-4 run at the end of the first half to go up 50-43 at the break. The Knights got it to a single possession early in the 2nd half at 52-49 after a Kevin Crockett 3 pointer. The Bengals responded with four 3 pointers, two by Henry and 2 by Grayer. Quickly the lead was back to 11 and the Knights could never get it back to a single possession again. They closed it down to 102-98 on a Decker layup with 1:42 left to play but the Bengals hit 8 of 12 free throws to put the Knights away.

Buffalo State improves to 10-4 overall and 4-4 in the YAC. They will travel over to Brockport for a rematch with the Golden Eagles at 5:30 PM today.

Geneseo falls to 10-4 and 5-2 in the YAC. They will host Fredonia at 2:00 PM today.

One final note. I learned after I had posted my predictions that the grandmother of one of the Bengal players  passed away on Friday. I almost went back and changed my prediction because I knew the Bengals would want to win one for her. I also knew she was up in heaven with all her new angel buddies looking down and sending lots of good karma to the Bengals. The Bengals certainly played like they wanted to win one for her with career highs all over the place. And all those 3 pointers that went in to tie a program record...I think someone up above was guiding those shots, just a bit. My condolences and prayers to the player and his family.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2017, 06:17:44 AM
Cortland State 82  Potsdam State 56

The Bears tried to make a game of it but could only do so for about the first 11 minutes. The Red Dragons were only up by a 16-14 score when they went on 10-2 run and opened up a double figure lead at 26-16. Cortland continued to build that lead until it reached a high of 18 points at 48-30. The Bears got a bucket to cut the lead to 16 points at the break. The second half was more of the same as the lead briefly dropped to 14 points but quickly ballooned into the 20's. It reached a high of 30 points as the Red Dragons got everyone into the game.

Zach Lydon led Cortland with 15 points. Justin Cooper had 13 and Carrell Joseph had 12. Justin Prendergast had 8 points and led the team with 7 rebounds.

Jayquan Thomas had 17 points and 8 rebounds for the Bears.  Nosa Onabor had a game high 9 rebounds.

Cortland ups their record to 10-4 overall and 5-2 in the conference. They head over to Plattsburgh to face the Cardinals at 2:00 PM today.

Potsdam drops to 1-12 overall and 0-7 in the YAC.  They will host Oswego State at 2:00 PM today.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 14, 2017, 08:55:13 AM
5 games on tap today in the SUNYAC

Geneseo easily over Fredonia. The 3 ball will be back in action today for the Knights at their friendly shooting gym.

Plattsburgh over Cortland, Is Jon Patron coming off an injury? He needs to get going again if Plattsburgh has any chance of making the playoffs.

Oswego beating up Potsdam. The Brian Sortino show continues to produce winning basketball for the Lakers.

Oneonta doing the same to New Platz. Look for the big 3, McElroy, Coleman and Kelly to have their way with New Paltz at home.

The game of the day:
Buffalo State over Brockport in a track meet.
This should be a very high scoring affair as both teams are incredibly athletic.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
Brockport State 88 Fredonia State 59

I could just cut and paste what I said about the Potsdam-Cortland game and it would describe what took place in this game as well.

Brockport didn't let Fredonia hang around for 11 minutes as the Golden Eagles had a double digit lead with 11:34 left in the first period. Up 24-13 Brockport broke it wide open with a 17-6 run to end the half and take a 50-33 lead at the break. The closest the Blue Devils got after that was 14 points once, early in the 2nd stanza
The Eagles gradually increased the lead until it reached a maximum of 29 at the final buzzer.

Brockport's usual suspects, Clifton Lyerly and Hamed Shamseldin, had 16 and 15 points respectively to lead the way.

Matthew Smith had the best stat line of the contest with 11 points, a game high 7 rebounds, another game high of 5 assists and a pair of steals.

Devonn Gavin had 10 points, 5 steals and 2 rebounds.

Brandon Hodge had 9 points to lead the Blue Devils. Richard De La Cruz and Justin Tapper had 8 points each and De La Cruz led the team with 7 rebounds. Tapper had 4 boards.

Dante Williams also had 7 rebounds, 6 points 2 steals and 1 assist.

Brockport improves to 11-3 overall and 6-1 in the conference to hang onto their share of first place. The Bengals will arrive later today for their 2:00 PM rematch of Tuesday's game.

Fredonia drops to 6-9 overall and 3-5 in the standings. They are now in sole possession of 7th place and will face Geneseo at 2:00 PM today, also a rematch of Tuesday's game, won by the Knights in overtime.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2017, 12:17:52 PM
Jan. 14    All ten teams in action today as conference play continues.   

Fredonia State at     Geneseo State     2:00 PM

Geneseo will look to return to the victory column after the Bengals snapped their 6 game winning streak. Fredonia wants to avenge the overtime loss they had on Tuesday to the Knights. The oddsmakers say it won't happen as they've made the Knights a 15 point favorite. Geneseo won't be overlooking the Blue Devils today  and they should win by double digits. 84-67 seems about right.

      
Oswego State  at  Potsdam State        2:00 PM

Another one sided affair unless the Lakers suffer a letdown. Three years go Potsdam went 5-20. One of those 5 wins was over Oswego in Potsdam by a 68-66 final score. So you never know when a team pulls off the big surprise. The point spread favors the Lakers by 16 points. Potsdam will have problems matching up with Brian Sortino outside and Mykelle Krecko inside. The Bears may surprise and beat the spread but they won't beat the Lakers, who with a little luck may be in first place all by themselves, after tonight. Oswego 81 Potsdam 66. 

   
Buffalo State  at  Brockport State      5:30 PM  Featured Game of the Day...Again.

The Bengals are coming off a hard fought win over Geneseo. Brockport had an easy game with Fredonia last night and the Eagle starters spent a lot less time on the court than Buff State's. Brockport has always been a tough contest for the Bengals also, as the Eagles have won 11 of the last 13 games between the teams. But those two wins have occurred each of the last two years in Brockport. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a slim 1 point favorite in this one. Brockport has played 14 games and I don't think there's a team in the country that has played less home games than the Golden Eagles. Tonight will mark only the 5th game all season where they've been at home. They have yet to lose one in Tuttle North Gym. It's hard not to pick them in this game...so I'm taking Brockport to win another close one by an 88-85 final score.     

   
New Paltz State  at  Oneonta State     2:00 PM

Both teams were off last night as these travel partners hit the hardwood for their 2nd matchup of the season. New Paltz continues to search for that opening win in the YAC and will probably have to wait a little longer as the Red Dragons are favored by 22 points. I can't see the Hawks keeping this one close and Oneonta wins by a 94-70 final. 

Cortland State  at  Plattsburgh State     2:00 PM

The Cardinals' woes continue to mount as their losing streak of 6 games has reached epic proportions, for a Plattsburgh State team under the direction of Coach Tom Curle.  A loss today would equal the longest losing streak of the Curle era and you would have to go back 8 years to the 2008-09 season to find that 7 game losing streak on his record. The Cardinals had never lost 5 games in a row, at home, under Curle, until now, and for those 5 games to all be SUNYAC contests adds further insult to injury. The other loss in the current losing streak was a blowout loss at Trinity back on January 2nd. The last time the Cardinals tasted victory was well over a month ago when they defeated Skidmore  in Memorial Hall back on December 6th. The Trinity loss was the only game in that streak where the Cardinals weren't competitive. Every one of the other five games they had their chances to pull out a win. Now the Cortland Red Dragons come to town and Plattsburgh  is running out of chances to get back into the conference playoff race.

Cortland brings a 5-2 YAC record with them (10-4 overall) and a win today, coupled with a lot of luck, could find them tied for the lead in the standings. The oddsmakers, despite Plattsburgh's recent record, have made the home team a slim 1 point favorite. The Cardinals have won 5 of the last 6 games against the Red Dragons, including a pair last year when Cortland managed to win the conference tournament. I still have faith that the Cardinals can turn things around and compete for a playoff spot. There's no time like today to start that turnaround. Cortland comes into the game well rested despite their road trip, as they had an easy time of it yesterday in Potsdam and their starters all got limited minutes. Plattsburgh was all out against Oswego but I have confidence that the guys will finally get a few breaks and expect the Cardinals to end their tailspin. Plattsburgh wins this one 92-85.                    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2017, 04:51:55 PM
Final scores of today's games.

Fredonia State  68   Geneseo State  62

Oswego State 86  Potsdam State 76

Cortland State  83  Plattsburgh State 56

Oneonta State  100 New Paltz 87
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2017, 06:08:48 PM
Brockport State leads Buffalo State by a 48-32 score at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2017, 08:12:51 PM
If I never set foot in Brockport gymnasium again, I will be a happy man!  Beat Geneseo Friday and lose to B Port today. Weekend is awash!  Sucks but I guess that's life in the east regions toughest conference!!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 17, 2017, 01:38:47 PM
2 games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC

Oneonta all over Cortland at Dewar Arena. Look for the BIG 3 of McElroy, Coleman and Kelly to come up big again against their rivals.

Oswego all over New Paltz, look for Ian Schupp to have a big night, as he grew up not too far from New Paltz.

Enjoy the games.

I hope the Magicman is OK, things in Cardinal land haven't been this bad in a long time. I bet he is concocting a new magic potion for the Cardinals Gatorade tub this weekend.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2017, 05:07:34 PM
Jan. 17   Two games today in conference play. Both tipoff at 5:30 PM.


Oswego State  at  New Paltz State      5:30 PM

The Lakers are tied for first place and aren't about to let the Hawks pull off any upset here. The spread has the Lakers favored by 18 points and they should win by double digits. It's just a matter of how big the margin of victory will be. Oswego won by 29 last time they met. Tonight the Hawks keep it closer. Oswego 84 New Paltz 69.


 
Cortland State  at  Oneonta State      5:30 PM

Red Dragonmania Part II.  I can't believe after watching Cortland in action this past weekend that the Oneonta variety will sweep the Cortland variety. Even the oddsmakers have Oneonta listed as a 2 point home dog. Cortland sits all alone in 3rd place and would like to open up a little daylight over their closest pursuers, Oneonta and Geneseo. I think they win this one to get some revenge over Oneonta.  Cortland 86 Oneonta 81. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2017, 06:13:05 PM
Cortland leads Oneonta 41-35 at the half.

Oneonta was down 41-23 with 3 minutes left to play and went on a 12-0 run to end the period and get back into the game.

Nicky Bonura leads Cortland with 11 points.

Mikey McElroy and Lawrence Coleman with 10 points each for Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2017, 06:19:19 PM
Oswego leads New Paltz 40-20 at the half.

Jamie Ferebee leads Oswego with 11 points

Nick Arthur leads the Hawks with 6 points
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2017, 07:48:33 PM
Amazing finish by Oneonta State as they put up 48 second half points and limit Cortland to just 23. They bury those Red Dragons by an 83-64 final score. In the final 23 minutes of this game Oneonta outscored Cortland by a 60-23 margin. They ended the first half (the final 3 minutes) on a 12-0 run and ended the second half (the final 4 minutes) on an 18-0 run. That's a 30-0 differential in those 7 minutes.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2017, 04:42:51 AM
Oswego State defeats New Paltz State by an 81-52 final score.

The Lakers were up by a single point at 11-10 when they broke out a 21-5 run to double up the Hawks at 32-15 with 6:44 left in the period. Jamie Ferebee hit 3 triples and Tyler Pierre scored 3 times to account for 15 of those 21 points. Oswego continued to increase their lead and went into the half up 40-20.

The Hawks briefly cut the lead to 16 points at the start of the 2nd period but 3 more baskets from behind the arc, 2 by Ferebee and 1 by Ian Schupp quickly put the Lakers back up by 22 and the lead got as high as 31 at 74-43 with 5 minutes left to play.

Jamie Ferebee, with 5 of 6 from downtown led the Lakers with 19 points. He added 3 steals, 3 rebounds and 1 assist. Tyler Pierre and Pat Caruso each tossed in 10 points. Mykelle Krecko led the team with 9 rebounds and had five blocked shots.

Andrew Seniuk and Nick Arthur each had 11 points to lead the Hawks. Seniuk had a game high 10 rebounds and Arthur grabbed 8 boards.

Both teams had 12 turnovers but Oswego ruled the boards grabbing 48 rebounds to 32 for the Hawks. Oswego outshot the Hawks in all 3 categories, most notably from the 3 point line. The Lakers hit 10 shots from long range to just a pair for New Paltz.

Oswego moves into sole possession of first place with an 8-1 conference record, a half game ahead of Brockport who is 7-1. The Lakers are 12-4 overall. Next up for Oswego will be a road trip to travel partner, Cortland, on Saturday at 2:00 PM.

New Paltz falls to 1-13 (0-8 YAC) and travels to western New York this weekend to face Fredonia on Friday at 5:30 PM and Buffalo State on Saturday at 2:00 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2017, 07:03:23 AM
Oneonta State 83  Cortland State 64

The Red Dragons played back and forth ball through the first 7 minutes of play when Cortland, up 17-15, put together a 14-2 run to break on top by 14 points at 31-17 with 6:37 left in the half. Those Red Dragons were still up by 12 points at 33-21, when they hit back to back 3 pointers, to boost their margin to 18 points. Cortland, with just under 3 minutes remaining in the period, seemed to be in control and it didn't look good for the team from Oneonta. Down 41-23, Oneonta held Cortland scoreless for the remainder of the half and got 5 straight points from Lawrence Coleman to fuel a 12-0 run, to bring them within 6 points at 41-35, heading into the break. What looked like a blowout was now a ballgame.

The game got even tighter as Mikey McElroy hit Oneonta's first 2 baskets of the 2nd half to make it a one possession game. Carrel Joseph hit a 3 pointer for Cortland, but McElroy responded with one of his own and Lawrence Coleman followed that with a hoop and harm to give Oneonta the lead at 47-46. It was their first lead since they were up 7-6 early in the game. Two ties and two more lead changes would follow and Cortland, down 65-62, would make it a 1 point game on a Joseph basket with exactly 4 minutes to go. Hard to believe but that would be the last point Cortland would score. McElroy buried a jumper and Coleman got another "and one" 3 point play. McElroy scored on a layup and Kevin Mackin nailed a 3 pointer and just like that the score was 75-64 with 1:55 to play. Coleman had a dunk on the next Oneonta possession and then he hit 4 of 4 from the line, sandwiching a Frankie Kelly layup, to close out Cortland 83-64. If you're counting, that was 18 straight points by Oneonta, to end the game.           

Lawrence Coleman and Mikey McElroy shared scoring honors with 24 points each. Coleman grabbed 10 rebounds to give him a double-double and he added 2 assists,2 steals and a block.

McElroy was 10x13 from the field and 3x5 from long distance. He also had 4 rebounds, a block, a steal and 1 assist.

Jack Kolosky just missed a double-double as he captured rebounding honors with his game high 13 boards. He had 9 points, 3 blocks, 2 assists and a steal.

Frankie Kelly had 8 points, 8 assists, and 4 rebounds.


Cortland was led by Carrel Joseph with 19 points and a team high 8 rebounds. He also had 2 blocks, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Nicky Bonura had 11 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist and 1 steal.

Oneonta outshot Cortland from the field 57.4% (31x54) to 37.5% (24x64). That's the story of the game right there. Cortland had 14 turnovers to 13 for Oneonta.

Oneonta moves into sole possession of 3rd place with a 6-2 conference record. They are 9-6 overall. They head west this weekend to face Buffalo State and Fredonia for the first time this season. The Bengals host them at 5:30 PM on Friday night.

Cortland falls to 11-5 overall and 6-3 in the YAC. They hold down the 4th spot in the standings a half game ahead of 5-3 Geneseo. Cortland is off until Saturday when they will host Oswego at 2:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2017, 10:08:58 AM
The latest D3hoops Top 25 Poll that came out on Monday shows Rochester as the only East Region team in the Top 25. The Yellowjackets after suffering their first loss of the year on Sunday fell from the #3 spot with 549 points to the #8 spot with 448 points.

The only other East Region team with a mention is Brockport State who sneaks back into the Others Receiving Votes category with 3 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2017, 09:54:06 PM
Tough weekend coming up in the 'Yac. We will be passing the halfway point of 'Yac season and "the majority of 'Yac teams" still have a chance to win it (reg season title). Oneonta at BUFF STATE Friday and then at Fredonia Sat. Cortland hosting Oswego Saturday and Plattsburgh visiting both Geneseo and Brockport this weekend!  OOOwweee.  The best that my BENGALS could do this weekend would be to move up just 1 spot IF (and thats a BIG IF) they win both of their games this weekend!

Gonna miss All-Time' supportive comments tomorrow as I'm sure that he will be picking the Red Dragons (Oneonta) to win at Buff State. Having won 8 of their last 10 games, Oneonta is shaping up to be the team that everyone thought they could be!  All-Time gets my vote for #1 BENGAL fan who lives outside of the 716 in the 1st half of SUNYAC season!!

Tough weekend indeed.

Go BENGALS!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 20, 2017, 11:38:27 AM
Bengalsrule- I could play this a couple of ways. I could use the Magicman's reverse psychology and pick Buffalo State to win, since I've been pretty bad at picking games this season. Hoping that I am wrong and my Red Dragons pull off the win.
The Buffalo State arena is a beautiful place to play, but a very tough shooting gym, so I hope the Red Dragons don't rely on the 3 ball to win the game.
Buffalo State has shown that it can put up a lot of points, I expect this one to be a track meet in the 90's or even in the 100's.
Oneonta has been playing extremely well of late, their only conference losses are to Brockport at Brockport which you know is a nightmare to play in and Oswego at Oswego.
This is a very important road trip for the Red Dragons. They need to show that they can win on the road against some good teams. So I'm picking the Red Dragons to continue playing great basketball and knock off the Bengals in a THRILLA.

Brockport at home against the struggling Cardinals. Do you think the Magicman makes the trip to put some of the new Magic potion into the Cardinals Gatorade Tub, or he just gives it to Coach Curle to do? I hope the Cardinals get their game going again soon. It's no fun when their not in the mix. Plus I like it when the Magicman is happy. ;D

Fredonia all over New Paltz as is Geneseo over Potsdam.

Enjoy the Games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2017, 01:19:00 PM
Jan. 20            Four games scheduled today all in conference play

      
Potsdam State  at  Geneseo State        5:30 PM

Just a week ago things were looking good for the Knights, as they were tied at the top of the conference standings with Oswego and had just beaten the other 1 loss team, Brockport, by 20 points.   Things went south in a hurry for Geneseo, as they fell to the Bengals in Buffalo, a result that wasn't all that unexpected. The loss on their home court the next day to Fredonia was unexpected, however, and dropped the Knights a full 2 games behind Brockport and 2.5 games in back of the Lakers. To further complicate matters the Knights went from the possibility of hosting the YAC tournament or grabbing a first round bye, to the 5th seed and playing a first round game on the road, as Oneonta and Cortland both jumped in front of them as well.

Such is life in the SUNYAC where 8 teams are fighting for 6 spots and it will, no doubt, come down to that final weekend, as it does every year, to determine the playoff participants and the top seeds. Lots of games remain to be played as everyone has 9 or 10 conference matchups left. Teams that had close losses and went 5-3 or 4-5  can go 8-1 or 7-2 in the 2nd half to improve their position.

This evening the Knights host cellar dweller Potsdam State and who better to play when you're looking to regain your swagger than the Bears. I wish it wasn't so but Potsdam is a young team and is still a few years away from contending under new coach, Jim Bechtel. They need an infusion of talent that will hopefully be coming with his recruitment classes over the next couple of years. The Bears are still looking for that initial conference win and I only see a couple of chances where that might happen. Tonight isn't one of them. The point spread favors the Knights by a 22 point margin. The Bears will be hard pressed to beat the spread. Geneseo wins this one by a 94-74 final score.
         


New Paltz State  at  Fredonia State        5:30 PM

The Blue Devils are tied for the 6th and final playoff spot with Buffalo State. Both teams have a 1.5 game lead on Plattsburgh but are at least 2 games behind any of the teams in front of them. That makes this game a must win situation for Fredonia because they can't afford to lose to a team that's at the bottom of the standings. Fresh off an upset over Geneseo has to be a confidence builder for the Blue Devils but they need to focus on tonight's game and not look ahead to the Oneonta matchup tomorrow.

New Paltz is in the same boat as Potsdam. It's a boat that's full of leaks and going down fast. They won't have many chances for a conference win but at least tonight they aren't facing one of the conference leaders. The point spread has the Blue Devils favored by 14 points. The Hawks have been beaten by double figures in 10 of their 13 losses. I think they keep it respectable tonight but still come up short. Fredonia 77 New Paltz 70. 


Oneonta State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM  Featured Game of the Day

The Red Dragons are definitely the surprise of the first half as they come into this game all alone in 3rd place with a 6-2 conference mark. They are a half game ahead of Cortland and a full game ahead of Geneseo but Oneonta holds the tiebreaker over Cortland having beat those Red Dragons twice and currently owns a victory over the Knights in their one meeting so far this season. Those tiebreakers could go a long way toward a higher seed after the YAC schedule is complete. This weekend will be a big test for Oneonta as they face a legitimate contender in the Bengals and a hungry Blue Devil squad that hasn't tasted the playoffs since the 2012-13 season. Winners of 3 straight, the Red Dragons will be looking to avenge a pair of losses to the Bengals last year. They are only 3-7 against Buff State in the last 5 years and the last time they won in the Queen City was 7 years ago when they were co-champs of the regular season with Plattsburgh.

The Bengals are trying to overcome a slow start in conference play and climb higher up the ladder. Two one point losses to Oswego and Brockport, the top 2 teams, have been costly. A second loss to the Golden Eagles last weekend dropped them back below .500 in the YAC and could affect them down the road in a tiebreaker situation. They could win both games this weekend and still be in 6th place. In fact, I think there's a good chance that will happen.

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 5 point choice in this game and despite the recent winning streak of the Red Dragons they haven't had a lot of luck in the Sports Arena. I think the standings get tightened up even more as Buffalo State wins this one 92-88.     



   
Plattsburgh State     at  Brockport State     5:30 PM

A month ago I would have thought this would be the Featured Game of the Day. Lots of things have happened since then and for the Cardinals they have all been bad. The team is mired in the longest overall losing streak of Coach Tom Curle's time at Plattsburgh (the team also lost 7 in a row back in 2008-09) and the longest home court losing streak under Curle of 6 games. The fortunes of a team that was 6-1 have fallen to the point that they are now in serious jeopardy of missing the playoffs for the first time since that 2008-09 season. After starting out 2-0 in the YAC they are now 2-6 and those 6 conferences losses in a row also set a new record under Curle's leadership.

The Cardinals climb up the standings into a playoff position will be a difficult one. Not impossible but difficult. Plattsburgh is the only school that has yet to play either of the winless teams in the YAC. They could (note I said could here) get 4 wins there, that would help them out considerably. That leaves them with 6 games left against the top 5 teams and 5 of those 6 games are on the road. They need to win 3 of those games to have a chance to make the playoffs.

Since the advent of the 6 team playoff era, 4 years ago the 6th place team has had a 9-9 record three times and a 10-8 record once. So Plattsburgh will have to come up with at least 7 wins to get to that magic number and even then it may not be enough.

Tonight's game against the Golden Eagles will likely be another battle similar to the last time this pair met in Plattsburgh, when Brockport won 94-88. That game was marred by 3 officials that were more concerned about blowing their whistles than letting the teams play basketball (52 personal fouls and 5 technicals). Both teams were the recipients of numerous questionable calls. A technical with 30 seconds left on Plattsburgh's bench turned the game from a single possession to a multiple possession game and completely changed the way the final seconds played out. Hopefully this evening the players can decide the outcome and not the zebras.

Brockport with the best overall record of any YAC team at 12-3 is a half game behind Oswego in conference play at 7-1. After getting shellacked by Geneseo in their lone YAC loss, when Brockport's two leading scorers only combined for 13 points, the Golden Eagles have ripped off 3 conference wins in a row. They squeak by Buffalo State by 1 point in Buffalo, then bury Fredonia and beat the Bengals again, in a rematch 4 days after their first meeting. Which Brockport team will show up tonight? The one that looked good with 12 solid wins or the team that stunk up the joint in their 3 losses.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a solid 7 point favorite here and I have no reason to think that is wrong. Brockport is a veteran club and 5 of their top 6 players in minutes per game are members of the senior class and the conference is dominated this year by senior led teams. Plattsburgh's 10 man rotation doesn't have a single senior. They start 3 sophomores and 2 juniors. A junior and 2 sophs are the first 3 off the bench.

The Cardinals have won 6 of the past 10 meetings and have won in Brockport in 3 of the last 4 years. I hope they can do so again. Plattsburgh State 84 Brockport 81               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2017, 06:15:18 PM
Buffalo State leads Oneonta State 58-49 at the half.

Mike Henry and Lovell Smith each with 15 points for Buffalo State. Nico McLean with 10.

Mikey McElroy leads Oneonta with 15 points and Lawrence Coleman has 11.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2017, 06:19:01 PM
Brockport State leads Plattsburgh State 43-41 at the half.

Clifton Lyerly with a huge first half has 24 points and 5 rebounds. Hamed Shamseldin has 9 points.

Eli Bryant has 13 points for the Cardinals and Isaiah Hill has 10 points and 6 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2017, 06:22:09 PM
Fredonia leads New Paltz 32-28.

Dante Williams leads the Blue Devils with 8 points.

Dylan Balducci has 8 points for the Hawks and Nick Arthur has 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2017, 06:25:31 PM
Geneseo over Potsdam 42-27 at the break.

CJ Burke with 19 points to lead the Knights.

Nosa Onabor with 8 points for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2017, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 20, 2017, 07:10:07 PM
Buffalo State defeats Oneonta State by a 101-94 final score.

Big win.  It should be noted that Coach Cam did not make the game!  His wife went into labor yesterday in preparation to deliver their first child!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 21, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
5 Games on Tap Today in the SUNYAC

The Featured game of the day is Plattsburgh against Geneseo.
Can the Cardinals get out of their funk this afternoon? I certainly hope so.
Can someone tell me whats happening with Jon Patron? He started the season on fire and seems to be in the Dog House.
I think he gets out today and has a big game, and the Cardinals beat the Knights in a barn burner.

My Oneonta Red Dragons come back today and beat a tough Fredonia team in that warehouse that they play in.
Look for the Red Dragons to celebrate the birth of Coach Conover baby boy by beating Fredonia by double digits.

Oswego over Cortland
Brockport all over Potsdam
Buffalo State all over New Platz

Enjoy the games



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
Fredonia State defeats New Paltz 82-68.

The Blue Devils needed to win this game to keep their hands on a share of the 6th and final playoff spot but the Hawks weren't going to roll over. The first half was a tightly contested affair with 8 ties and 7 lead changes that eventually had Fredonia heading to the break with a 32-28 lead. The teams were tied at 9, when the Blue Devils reeled off 7 straight points, and it looked like New Paltz was in the familiar position of going down by double digits, but a 12-3 run put them in the lead at 21-19, with 6:19 to play. The Hawks were still up 28-26 with under 2 minutes to play in the period but Fredonia scored the final 6 points, to go in front at halftime.

The Blue Devils looked to be in control once again as they opened the 2nd half with a 10-3 run, to go up by a 42-31 score with 17:15 on the clock. Once again the Hawks responded in a big way by ripping off a 15-3 burst, that brought them back into the lead at 46-45 with 12:11 to play. Andrew Seniuk with 7 points and Dylan Balducci with 2 buckets from long distance fueled that run. In a game of runs, it was now the Blue Devils' turn and they wasted no time in putting 14 unanswered points on the board. 4 points each from Ian Helps and Justin Tapper, plus a pair of 3 pointers from Richard De La Cruz, did the damage. The score was 59-46 with 6:23 left in the game and it effectively ended the Hawks hopes of gaining their first conference win. The closest they got was 8 points and the lead then swelled to 15 points. In the final 1:16 Fredonia made 8 trips to the line and hit 15 of 17 free throws to make the final margin of 14 points.

Fredonia shot the rock a little better from the field hitting 23x53 (43.4%) to 26x67 (38.8%) for the Hawks. New Paltz was able to hang around on the strength of their 3 point shooting which saw them make 11x21 (52.4%) from downtown. Fredonia only had 5x13 from long range (38.5%). The stripe saw a big discrepancy with the Blue Devils making 31x37 (83.8%) from the line to just 5x8 (62.5%) for the Hawks. Even if you take away the final 15 made free throws that Fredonia had in the closing stages of the contest, they still had a 16 to 5 advantage which is almost the MOV. Hard to win games, even when you're hot from behind the arc, when the free throw numbers are so one sided.The Hawks lost the rebounding battle by a wide margin 46-31, but only had 11 turnovers to 14 for Fredonia.

Fredonia
Ian Helps had a double-double with a team high 20 points and a game high 13 rebounds.

Dante Williams also had a double-double with 13 points and 10 rebounds.

Richard De La Cruz had 11 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

Justin Tapper had 10 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists in 20 minutes off the bench.

Kareem Brown also hit double figures with 10 points.

New Paltz
Dylan Balducci came off the bench and captured scoring honors with 23 points, a team high 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. He was on fire from deep space as he hit 7 of 11 shots from 3 point range. He must have had his foot on the line for the other field goal he made. :D

Andrew Seniuk had 15 points, also 7 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal and a block.

Fredonia improves to 8-9 and 5-5 in the YAC. They remain tied with Buffalo State for the final playoff spot and will host Oneonta State at 2:00 PM on Saturday.

New Paltz is now 1-14 and 0-9 in the conference. Their journey doesn't get any easier as they travel over to the Sports Arena to face Buffalo State at 2:00 PM on Saturday. They did upset the Bengals last year but that was in New Paltz. It will be tough to pull a repeat in the Queen City.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 01:13:43 PM
Geneseo State defeats Potsdam State by an 80-60 final score.

If you told me that Justin Ringen and John Decker would each score 3 points in this game then I would have bet a fair amount of money that the Knights were upset by the Bears. I would have bet an even larger amount of money that the Knights wouldn't win the game by 20 points if they did manage to pull off a victory with their top pair only combining for 6 points. This game showed that the Knights aren't just the R&D show.   

The Bears opened the game with a 3 pointer from Nosa Onabor to grab their only lead. The Knight's CJ Burke responded with back to back 3 pointers, and after Serigne Kane tied the score with a threeball, Burke struck again from long distance and the Knights were on their way. Onabor hit a jumper to make it 9-8, but the Knights went on a 15-3 run to open up a 13 point lead at 24-11 with 11 minutes left in the half. 6 different players scored in that 15 point barrage and the lead reached 16 points when Burke buried another 3 pointer to make it 37-21 en route to a 42-27 halftime lead. Potsdam could never get it back to single digits.

The Bears did make a move when they were down 61-40 and scored 10 straight points to cut the margin to 11, at 61-50. The Knights' Jack Manke, who hails from Ogdensburg, just down the road from Potsdam, chose to show the North Country fellows his game, as he scored the next 7 points in the contest, to build the lead back to 18 at 68-50. He followed that up with 3 more baskets to make it 75-56 with 4 minutes left, to dispel any hope of a Potsdam comeback. This one was over and the only question would be how big the MOV would be. I said the Bears would beat the 22 point spread imposed by the oddsmakers. I had them losing by a 94-74 final. The final ended up 80-60 but correctly, right on the 20 point MOV I predicted.

Geneseo
Sophomore CJ Burke captured scoring honors with a career high 20 point night on 7x11 shooting which included 5 of 7 from downtown. He added a game high 6 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block.

Fellow sophomore Jack Manke also had a career high with 17 points. He was 7x9 from the field and 3x3 from the line. He added 5 rebounds 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Kevin Crockett had 9 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists.

Tommy Eastman had 8 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists in 11 minutes off the bench.


Potsdam
Nosa Onabor had 15 points to lead the Bears. He was 3x7 from long distance and had 2 rebounds and a steal.

Serigne Kane scored 12 points and also matched the game high of 6 rebounds. He added 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Jayquan Thomas had 10 points 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.

Al Berete had 8 points, 3 blocks, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 18 minutes off the bench.

Geneseo ups their overall record to 11-5 and moves into a 3 way tie for third place with a 6-3 conference mark. They will host Plattsburgh State at 2:00 PM on Saturday.

Potsdam drops to 1-14 overall and 0-9 in the YAC. They will travel over to Brockport for a 2:00 PM Saturday afternoon game as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 01:15:33 PM
Brockport State defeats Plattsburgh State 96-87

Brockport opened the second half with an 11-2 run which turned out to be the decisive move of the game as the Cardinals could never get closer than 6 points the rest of the way. The entire first half was a closely contested affair that featured 6 ties and 12 lead changes with neither team leading by more than 4 points. The teams went into the locker room with the Eagles in front 43-41. The 2nd half was virtually the same except for that brief explosion by Brockport.

The Golden Eagles opened the 2nd period with a tip in by Marcus Blythers but that was countered by Plattsburgh, when Eric Mack tipped one in for the Cardinals, to narrow the lead to 45-43, with just a minute gone by. That was the last time that Plattsburgh was a single possession from the lead. Brockport's two scoring leaders took turns, as Clifton Lyerly hit a jumper and then Hamed Shamseldin made a pair of free throws. Lyerly hit another jumper on Brockport's next possession and Shamseldin buried a three ball after a Cardinal turnover. The score was 54-43 with 17 minutes left to play. The Cardinals outscored the Eagles  44-42 over the rest of the period but could never put together a run to catch up. They made a move with 4 minutes left to play and the Eagles in front by an 86-74 score. A layup and a 3 pointer by Eric Mack along with a pair of free throws from Chris Middleton gave the Cards a 7-1 spurt that brought them within 6 points at 87-81. Brockport took a quick timeout and the Cardinals had a chance to cut the lead to a single possession after the Eagles missed a shot on their end, but Plattsburgh turned it over and Devonn Gavin made them pay when he buried a triple. The Cardinals missed on their next attempt and Lyerly cashed in on a pair from the line. The lead was back to 11, there was 1:40 left on the clock and this one was history.

I knew it was not going to be a good night for the Cardinals when starter Eric Mack, was called for 2 fouls and was on the bench, before the game was even 30 seconds old. So, our second leading scorer and rebounder sat the entire first half. Then he was back on the floor to start the 2nd half and a minute and a half into the period he is called for a 3rd foul. Fourteen seconds later he is called for a 4th foul and back to the bench he goes. He didn't re-enter the game until there was 8:38 left on the clock. He managed to play the remainder of the game without fouling out. His time on the court was a total of 10 minutes.

Our leading scorer and rebounder Jon Patron didn't fare much better. He got 2 early fouls and only managed to play 5 minutes in the first half. He had the same problem in the second half and when he got his 4th foul he protested a little too much and was hit with a technical and his night was done. his time on the court was 13 minutes. We got a total of 23 minutes of court time from our two leading scorers instead of the 50 to 60 minutes we should have gotten. Hard to win games when your best players aren't playing.

Brockport
Brockport got a huge night from Clifton Lyerly who led all scorers with 37 points (11x25 fg, 3x8 3's, 12x13 ft). He had 7 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 steals.

Hamed Shamseldin had 22 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds and a steal.

David Clark had 13 points, 3 boards and a block.

Marcus Blythers had a team high 9 rebounds, 8 points and 2 blocks.

Plattsburgh
The Cardinals were led by Eli Bryant with 20 points on 7x16 shooting. He added 4 assists and a steal in 31 minutes off the bench.

Chris Middleton had 16 points, 5 rebounds 1 assist and a steal.

Eric Mack scored 15 points (4x4 fg, 1x2 3's, 6x7 ft), and grabbed 5 rebounds. He only got to play for 10 minutes because of foul trouble or he might have challenged for scoring and rebounding honors.

Isaiah Hill had 13 points and 7 rebounds in 17 minutes off the bench.

Ian Howard had a game high 13 rebounds, to go with 8 points and a block.

Adam Jaquish had 7 rebounds 2 points and a block in 10 minutes off the bench.

Most of the stats in this game were fairly even. Brockport had a slight advantage in shooting as they hit 43.2% (32x74) from the field to 38.8% (31x80) for Plattsburgh. The Golden Eagles hit 3 more shots from long range (7x24) than the Cardinals did (4x23) and Brockport went 25x33 from the line (75.8%) to 21x23 (91.3%) for Plattsburgh. Rebounds went to Plattsburgh but only by a 49-48 margin. The Golden Eagles had 18 turnovers to 19 for the Cardinals.

Brockport improves their record to 13-3 overall and their 8-1 conference record moves them back into a first place tie with Oswego. That tie could be broken tomorrow as Brockport hosts Potsdam at 2:00 PM and should prevail against the last place team. Meanwhile Oswego travels to Cortland  and the Red Dragons will be looking to avenge a close loss from early December in Oswego. If both teams win tomorrow that will set up a big showdown when Brockport travels to Oswego next Friday for the first meeting of the season between the two teams.

Plattsburgh continues to slide downhill as they fall to 6-9 overall and just 2-7 in the conference. It won't get any easier as they will have to contend with Geneseo tomorrow at 2:00 PM. The dynamic duo of the Knights, Ringen and Decker, managed to score a whopping 6 points between them on Friday against Potsdam (they each had 3 points) so you know they will probably explode for 50 to 60 points on Saturday.                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
Buffalo State defeats Oneonta State by a 101-94 final score.

The featured game of the day didn't disappoint as these teams went at each other tooth and nail in a fast paced contest that featured two potent, offensive minded teams. Early play had a steady diet of drives to the basket and neither team could get more than a two possession lead until a Dom Grayer 3 pointer put the Bengals up 28-21 at the 12:30 mark. Oneonta's Mikey McElroy answered that with his own long range bomb and a short time later another McElroy 3 pointer tied the score at 29. The teams exchanged layups for a 4th tie at 31 each to match the 4 lead changes in the period but the Bengals, up 34-33 with 8:46 left in the half, would open up some daylight with a 21-9 run that put them ahead by 13 points at 55-42 with 3:31 to play. Mike Henry was the horse they rode as he scored 14 of those 21 points during that 5 minute stretch. The Red Dragons closed the half on a 7-1 spurt to make the score at the intermission 58-49.

The Bengals continued to lead by 7 to 11 points for much of the 2nd half and when Oneonta got as close as 3 points after McElroy hit another triple and Jack Kolosky made a pair of free throws, the Bengals responded with a Jordan Glover 3 pointer and a pair of layups from Lovell Smith to build the lead right back to double digits at 83-73 with 8:26 left to play. Slowly the Red Dragons made some gains and led by the hot hand of McElroy, who scored 10 of their next 15 points,  they closed the gap to 90-88, when he buried his 5th triple of the night with 2:38 left to play. The Bengals came up empty on their next possession as McElroy blocked a shot and Frankie Kelly got the rebound and was fouled. He missed both free throws but made up for it by stealing the ball and scoring to tie the score at 90 setting the stage for the final 1:43. The Bengals were starting to feel the game slipping away but Nico McLean was fouled and made both free throws to put them back in front. Oneonta needed to keep pace but missed a layup on their end and Mike Henry hit the biggest shot of the night, his 2nd three pointer with 42 ticks left to put the Bengals up by 2 possessions at 95-90. Kelly went to the line for Oneonta and made 2 free throws and the Red Dragons had to foul. What looked to be a break when the Bengals missed both shots from the line turned out to be a bad break, as J.O. Spence collared the rebound for Buff State and Oneonta had to foul him with just 26 seconds remaining. He made 1 of 2 to make it a 2 possession game again and the Red Dragons rushed downcourt to try and score inside. The layup bounced out and they fouled again. Buffalo State ended up making 3 more trips to the line making 5 of 6 to make the final score 101-94.

The shooting stats in this game were fairly close as the Bengals were 38x72 (52.8%) from the field, 7x20 (35%) from behind the arc and 18x26 (69.2%) from the line.  Oneonta was 35x64 (54.7%) from the field,
8x15 (53.3%) from downtown and 16x22 (72.7%) from the stripe.

Oneonta ruled the boards as they grabbed 42 rebounds to 28 for the Bengals, but that didn't translate into more 2nd chance points for the Red Dragons as Buffalo State led that stat, 14 to 13. The Bengals won the turnover battle in a big way as they only had 7 miscues to 20 for Oneonta. Buff State got 36 points off those turnovers to only 10 points that Oneonta received from the Bengals' mistakes.

The Bengals
Lovell Smith had another big game with 31 points to capture scoring honors. He was 14x18 from the field and 3x5 from the line. He added 3 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists.

Mike Henry was close behind with 25 points and just missed a double-double with a team high 9 rebounds. He was 8x11 from the field, 2x3 from long range and 7x9 from the line. He added 4 assists and a steal.

Nico McLean filled up the stat sheets with 19 points (6x14 fg, 2x5 3's, 5x6 ft) 6 rebounds, a team high 5 assists, 3 steals and a block.

J.O. Spence had 11 points, 5 rebounds, a steal and a block.

Jordan Glover had 8 points, 4 assists, 4 steals and 2 rebounds.


The Red Dragons
Mikey McElroy led the team with 30 points, as he shot 11x15 from the field, 5x6 from behind the arc and 3x5 from the line. He also had 7 rebounds, 3 assists and a block.

Lawrence Coleman had a double-double with 17 points and a game high 11 rebounds. He was 8x12 from the field and 1x1 from the line.

Jack Kolosky had the same double-double with 17 points and 11 rebounds. He was 6x8 fg, 1x2 3's, and 4x4 ft. He also added 3 assists.

Frankie Kelly just missed a double-double with 15 points (4x8 fg, 7x19 ft) and 9 assists. He also had 2 steals.


The Red Dragons were without the services of Coach Cameron Conover who was anxiously awaiting the birth of his first child. I heard it was a baby boy. Congratulations Coach.

Buffalo State improves to 11-5 overall and 5-5 in conference play. They are tied  with Fredonia for 6th place and will hope to break that tie on Saturday with a win over New Paltz slated for a 2:00 PM start.

Oneonta drops to 9-7 overall and 6-3 in the YAC which puts them in a 3rd place tie with Cortland and Geneseo. They will travel to Fredonia to tipoff at 2:00 PM on Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 01:42:50 PM
Jan. 21  All ten teams in action today with 5 SUNYAC games all tipping off at 2:00PM

Short on time today so just some quick picks   


Potsdam State  at  Brockport State        2:00 PM

The Bears are 23 point underdogs. They won't beat the spread.   Brockport 96 Potsdam 67

   
New Paltz State  at   Buffalo State        2:00 PM

The Hawks are 29 point underdogs. They will beat the spread.  Buffalo State 95 New Paltz 70


Oswego State  at  Cortland State        2:00 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

Cortland needs a win here to most likely keep pace with the teams they are tied with. Oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 3 point favorite. I'll take Cortland to win this one 83-80.


Oneonta  State  at  Fredonia State        2:00 PM

These Red Dragons will welcome back their Coach and look to keep pace with the teams they're tied with. And then there is the possibility that a win will find them in 3rd place all alone.  The point spread favors Oneonta by 6 points. I think they win by a few more. Oneonta 86 Fredonia 75


Plattsburgh State     at  Geneseo State        2:00 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Cardinals are overdue for a win but they will be hard pressed to get one here. Decker and Ringen can't have another day like yesterday and the law of averages says they will both be on fire today. It's do or die for Plattsburgh, though, and a loss today will pretty much rule out any hope of post-season play. Maybe our scoring leaders won't get zebraed for a change and will actually get to play the minutes they should. Besides I hate to pick against my Cardinals even if I should. The oddsmakers have made Geneseo an 8 point favorite in this one but I'll take Plattsburgh to win it 91-87.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 02:40:22 PM
Geneseo leads Plattsburgh State 31-30 at the half.

John Decker with 11 points for Geneseo and Justin Ringen with 7.

Eli Bryant leads the Cardinals with 10 points. Jon Patron has 6. Ian Howard with 4 points and 9 rebounds.

The Cardinals had a 13 point lead at 23-10 with 7:47 left in the period. Geneseo outscored them 21-7 to end the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 02:44:51 PM
Oswego all over Cortland at the half 59-38

Brian Sortino with 16 points and Jamir Ferebee with 15.

Carrel Joseph with 12 points to lead Cortland and Justin Cooper has 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 02:47:55 PM
Oneonta leads Fredonia 32-26 at the break.

Mikey McElroy with 13 point and Lawrence Coleman with 10 for the Red Dragons.

Richard De La Cruz with 10 points for the Blue Devils. Nicc Johnson has 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 02:54:08 PM
Brockport leads Potsdam 45-27 at the half.

Marcus Blythers with 11 points and Hamed Shamseldin with 9 to lead the Golden Eagles.

Danny Delsol-Lowry has 8 for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:01:00 PM
Buffalo State leads New Paltz 55-38 at the half.

Jordan Glover with 15 points for the Bengals. Mike Henry has 14.

Andrew Seniuk has 10 for the Hawks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:42:26 PM
My long North Country Nightmare is over...Plattsburgh State defeats Geneseo  76-72.

The teams didn't hit my projected scores of 91-87  but my margin of victory was right on the money.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:43:52 PM
Oswego State defeats Cortland State 104-94.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:47:13 PM
Buffalo State defeats New Paltz 104-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:48:43 PM
Brockport State defeats Potsdam State  94-64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:51:29 PM
Oneonta State defeats Fredonia State 70-62.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 21, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:42:26 PM
My long North Country Nightmare is over...Plattsburgh State defeats Geneseo  76-72.

The teams didn't hit my projected scores of 91-87  but my margin of victory was right on the money.

magicman, happy to see your Cardinals snap their losing streak.  I was very surprised to see them struggling like they were.  Maybe they can make a run down the stretch here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2017, 12:51:19 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 21, 2017, 09:24:18 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 21, 2017, 03:42:26 PM
My long North Country Nightmare is over...Plattsburgh State defeats Geneseo  76-72.

The teams didn't hit my projected scores of 91-87  but my margin of victory was right on the money.

magicman, happy to see your Cardinals snap their losing streak.  I was very surprised to see them struggling like they were.  Maybe they can make a run down the stretch here.

Thanks AllStar, I think we needed to beat Brockport on Friday to have a real shot at making the playoffs. We need to go 6-2 in our final 8 conference games for a chance to make the SUNYAC playoffs as the 6th and final seed. That would give us a 9-9 conference record and even that is no guarantee that we'll come in 6th. It may take a 10-8 record or we could lose a tiebreaker at 9-9.  At any rate making the playoffs is going to be hard to do with our final 5 conference games all on the road. We're not done..yet...but the odds are not in our favor. I've got my fingers crossed and lots of hope.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 24, 2017, 12:05:45 PM
3 Games on Tap tonight in the SUNYAC

The Featured Game is Buffalo State against Geneseo. I think the Bengals are starting to play like the team we all projected them to be. I have Buffalo State beating Geneseo by double digits.

Brockport all over Fredonia. Is Ian Helps playing? He didn't play against Oneonta on Saturday. That will make a little difference in the score, but Brockport by double digits as well.

Plattsburgh seems to have their Swagger Back. As I predicted Jon Patron was let out of the Dog House on Saturday and had a big game against Geneseo. Look for more of the same tonight as the Magicman's Cardinals are drinking his Cool Aid in a run away.

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2017, 02:16:14 PM
Jan. 24    Six teams playing tonight in three conference games.   

Buffalo State  at  Geneseo State        5:30 PM   Featured Game of the Day

These two teams played at an NBA pace the last time they met just 11 days ago in the Queen City. If Geneseo wins they move into 4th place all by themselves with a 7-4 record. If the Bengals win they move up a notch into 5th place all by themselves. The loser will be in 6th place.

The Bengals are coming off a weekend sweep and have won 5 of their last 7 SUNYAC games after starting out 1-3. The Knights are 3-3 in their last 6 conference games after a 3-1 YAC start. It would appear that the Bengals have the momentum going into this game and the oddsmakers have made them a slim 1 point favorite over the Knights. I don't think Geneseo wants to lose a second straight game at home. I can see them trying to slow the Bengals down by working the clock deeper into their possessions. A Bengal win here will be their 3rd straight in the series. The teams split last year each winning on the other's home court. I think they split again this year and the Knights take this one by a 88-84 final score.

   
Fredonia State  at  Brockport State        5:30 PM

Brockport is looking to move into sole possession of first place by a half game over Oswego with a win tonight. The Blue Devils need a win to keep pace for a playoff position. The question is will they have to do it without their top player Ian Helps who didn't play in the last game against Oneonta State.

The Golden Eagles have reeled off 5 conference wins in a row and once again look to be the team we thought they were. They need to focus on tonight's game, however, and not look ahead to the big showdown on Friday at Oswego State, that will give the winner of that game a leg up for the top seed in the YAC tournament. It was slightly more than a year ago when the Golden Eagles had this same Fredonia-Oswego back to backer, that the Blue Devils pulled off a shocker and beat Brockport in overtime.

The point spread favors the Eagles here by a 12 point margin and I'm not sure why it's not more. Port won at Fredonia by 29 points I think they win this one by at least 20...maybe more if Helps doesn't help. Brockport 92 Fredonia 67. 

   
Potsdam State  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM

The Battle of the North Country Round One. The Cardinals finally ended what must have seemed like a bad dream. Losing 8 games in a row after starting 6-1 wasn't something too many people saw coming. Especially this follower of Cardinal hoops. But it is what it is and now all the team can do is play like there is no tomorrow,  because...well...there ain't. The reality of making the SUNYAC playoffs is slowly slipping away and to catch Buffalo State or Geneseo or Cortland or whoever holds down the 6th and final playoff spot as the season winds down will be extremely difficult. To finish with 5 straight conference games on the road will only make it that much harder. The Cardinals got a reprieve when they managed to come away with a win at Geneseo over the weekend. Now they need to win a game they are supposed to win.

The Bears always play the Cards tough and I expect they will give a good effort tonight as well. Still seeking a win in conference play has to be disappointing for the team and a win over their rivals will go a long way in helping the morale of the players.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 16 point favorite in tonight's game. I think they win by a few more. Plattsburgh 86 Potsdam 66. 
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2017, 09:05:53 PM
Geneseo State 92  Buffalo State 87

I had the Knights winning by an 88-84 final score. Each team put up a few more than my estimate but my MOV was only a point off.

John Decker did to the Bengals (41 points) what Mike Henry did to the Knights 11 days ago (42 points). The Knights broke on top in this game and held the upper hand throughout most of the first half. Decker got 21 of his points in this period to carry the Knights. The Bengals trailed by as many as 11 points with 6:50 to go, but Nico McLean and Dom Grayer brought them back from that 34-23 deficit as the pair scored the next 17 points for Buffalo State, 9 by Grayer and 8 by McLean. Each player had two long bombs as Grayer hit his two and McLean followed with his pair. Jordan Glover then got into the act with a threeball and the score was now 43-40 and the Bengals were in front. Decker made a pair of free throws but McLean had one more from long distance before the half ended and the Bengals who trailed for most of the period, went into the break up 46-42.

Buffalo State maintained a slight lead through the first few minutes until a Decker 3 pointer tied the score at 48. 3 ties and 4 lead changes would follow until Decker buried another trey and put the Knights up by a 60-59 score. Geneseo had scored 18 points in the 2nd half to that point. An opening 3ball from Kevin Crockett and then 8 points from Decker and 7 points from Justin Ringen. There was 13:14 left in the game and the Bengals were about to get a steady diet of the R&D show with a side of Crockett thrown in for good measure. The Knights were going to score 32 more points in the rest of the game and all but 4 of them would come from this triumvirate. 7 from Crockett, 9 from Ringen and 12 from Decker.

The Bengals, now down 60-59 failed to score on their next 7 possessions allowing the Knights to reel off 9 more points to give them a double digit lead at 69-59. Mike Henry finally ended the drought with a layup but Decker promptly hit another triple and Ringen hit a free throw and the lead was back to 12 points. Still down 9 points with 3 minutes to play the Bengals made a last ditch charge that brought them within 3 points at 90-87 with 8 ticks on the clock. They had to foul and Jack Eisenberg put the game away by making both free throws to get the final of 92-87.

The Knights
John Decker with another big game captured scoring honors with 41 points. He was 7x13 from long distance and 16x16 from the line. He completed his double-double with 12 rebounds which also was the high total for the game.

Justin Ringen just missed a double-double as he had 23 points and 9 rebounds. He added 4 assists and a steal.

Kevin Crockett had 12 points, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Jack Manke had 6 points, 5 rebounds and 3 blocks.

Jack Eisenberg had 5 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 points.


The Bengals
Nico McLean led the Bengals with 24 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

Dom Grayer had 20 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, and a block off the bench.

Mike Henry had 17 points, 8 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Lovell Smith has 12 points, 6 rebounds, 1 steal and a block.

Jordan Glover had 10 points, 4 assists, 3 steals and 1 rebound.

Shooting stats were similar for both teams from the field but the Knights had 10 three pointers to just 3 for the Bengals. That was the big difference in the game. Geneseo owned the boards with a 42-28 margin but the Bengals caused 18 turnovers while only committing 12.

Geneseo, 12-6 overall, moves into sole possession of 4th place with a 7-4 SUNYAC record, a half game ahead of Cortland. They will travel to face those Red Dragons this weekend for the first time on Friday night at 5:30 PM. Then they will tackle Oswego State on Saturday at 2:00 PM. Needless to say it's a big weekend for the Knights with those two teams on the horizon.

Buffalo State drops to 12-6 overall and 6-6 in the YAC. They are in sole possession of 6th place and are off until Saturday when they travel down to Fredonia to take on their travel partner at 4:00 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2017, 09:56:12 PM
Brockport State 97  Fredonia State 61

I had the Golden Eagles winning by a 92-67 final despite the oddsmakers favoring Brockport by a meager 12 points. I also said if Ian Helps didn't play the margin would be larger. I was courtside at the Plattsburgh game but the person with me had his tablet tuned into the Brockport game. We looked for Helps in the game but he wasn't on the court. I spotted him at halftime in street clothes talking and watching the players warm up. Without him the margin was larger and Brockport's coach substituted freely throughout the game.

Brockport was up 27-10 with 9 minutes to go in the first half. The Blue Devils got a little momentum and cut the lead to 8 points at 31-23 but 4 points from Devonn Gavin and a pair of 3 pointers from Hamed Shamseldin pushed the lead back to 16. Malick Sylla got into the act and buried a three to make it 44-25 with 1:44 left in the half. The Blue Devils got a pair of free throws from Dante Williams to go into the break down 44-27.

The teams traded baskets for the first 2 minutes of the 2nd period and Fredonia scored with 18:35 to cut the lead to 49-33. That was as close as they would get the rest of the way. Brockport exploded with a blistering run of 22 straight points to jump in front 71-33. It was 6 minutes of... whose turn is it... by the Brockport players. First Marcus Blythers scored 3 straight baskets, a tip in and 2 layups. Then Hamed Shamseldin scored 6 straight points on a layup, a steal that led to 2 free throws and then another layup. Then Devonn Gavin trumped them both by scoring the next 8 points on a triple, 2 free throws and another one from long distance. Justin Summers scored the final bucket of the run before Fredonia finally put points on the board after their long scoring drought. The closest the Blue Devils got the rest of the way was 30 points.

The Golden Eagles
Malick Sylla came off the bench and was the game's high scorer with 25 points. He was 7x11 from long distance

Hamed Shamseldin had 21 points, 6 steals, 5 assists,and 3 rebounds.

Devonn Gavin had 17 points, 3 assists 1 steal and 1 rebound in 16 minutes off the bench.

Marcus Blythers had 10 points, 3 steals, 2 rebounds and a block.

Matthew Smith had 6 assists, 4 points, 2 rebounds and 1 steal.

David Clark had a team high 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 points, 1 assist and a steal in 17 minutes off the bench


The Blue Devils
Justin Tapper led the team with 9 points, a game high 6 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.

Tommie Banks also had 6 rebounds and 7 points in 21 minutes off the bench.

Nicc Johnson had 7 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal in 19 minutes off the bench.

Christian Marinez and Dante Williams both had 8 points.

Brockport won every statistical category on the sheet with the two that stand out...hitting 12 three pointers to 4 by the Blue Devils and getting 42 points off 25 Fredonia turnovers.

Brockport inproves to 15-3 overall and 10-1 in the SUNYAC. They temporarily have sole possession of first place and will travel to Oswego on Friday evening to gain a deeper foothold. That game will tip off at 5:30 PM.

Fredonia falls to 8-11 overall and 5-7 in the YAC. They remain a full game behind Buffalo State for the 6th and final playoff spot. They will play those Bengals on Saturday to try and get back into the win column.   
         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2017, 04:50:56 AM
Congratulations to Mikey McElroy who was named Player of the Week last week. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

Jan16th 2017

Mikey Mcelroy,    Oneonta

In the only game this past week, McElroy scored a game high 31 points in leading Oneonta past New Paltz 100-87. In the process of scoring his 31 points, McElroy became the all-time leading scorer for the men's program surpassing the 1,455 points that was set by Zack Mager in 2015. McElroy currently has 1,458 points in his three plus years at Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2017, 04:51:57 AM
Congratulations to Mike Henry who was named Player of the Week this week. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

Jan 23, 2017

Mike Henry, Buffalo State

Henry shot 68 percent from the field and averaged 24.0 points and 7.0 rebounds as Buffalo State reached 100 points in each of its two SUNYAC wins over the weekend. Henry had 25 points, nine rebounds and four assists in Friday's 101-94 win over Oneonta, and then had 23 points and five boards in Saturday's 104-67 win against New Paltz.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2017, 04:58:00 AM
Plattsburgh State 113 Potsdam State 100

I didn't know I'd be attending an NBA game at Memorial Hall tonight but that's what it felt like with the pace of this game. They could have played using a 24 second shot clock and I don't think there would have been any shot clock violations.

I had the Cards winning this one by an 86-66 margin but the Bears played a good game and after falling behind by 21 points midway through the first half fought back to get within 4 points on several occasions in the latter part of the 2nd half. I'll say one thing about Potsdam...they are maybe the best 1-16 team in the country.

The Cardinals didn't waste any time going for the jugular as they quickly opened up a 26-7 lead on the strength of six 3 pointers, by 4 different players. Eli Bryant and Chris Middleton both made a pair of treys while Jon Patron opened the game with one. Eric Mack came off the bench and swished one from downtown 3 seconds after he entered the game. Middleton made a layup and Patron hit another one from long distance and the Cardinals were in front 31-11 with 12:51 left in the half. The Bears fought to stay in the game as Nosa Onabor and Jayquan Thomas scored 15 points in a row for Potsdam, 10 by Onabor and 5 from Thomas, but the Cards kept draining the long ball and when Patron hit his third one of the period the Cardinals had a 41-20 lead with 9:29 still on the clock. The Bears cut the lead to 15 but Plattsburgh's Eric Mack jammed one down and was fouled. The Bears' Dante Langley hit a triple but Eli Bryant responded with his 4th 3 pointer of the half and the 11th one that the Cardinals had in the first half. I don't know if that's a record for Plattsburgh but it's easily the most 3 pointers they've had in a single period this season. Plattsburgh was still up by 18 points with 3:33 remaining but the Bears ended the half on a 12-3 run, finishing with a 4 point play by Thomas, that cut the lead to single digits at 62-53. What looked liked a blowout was now a ballgame.

The Cardinals scored the first basket of the 2nd half to restore the lead to double digits but the Bears answered with 3 straight scores and suddenly the lead was only 5 points. The teams exchanged scores over the next several minutes and when Nosa Onabor made one from long distance the Bears were within 4 points at 72-68. Twice more the Bears got the lead down to 4 points, the last time at 81-77 with 9:23 remaining, but could never get it down to a single possession. The Cardinals, behind a couple of Brandon Johnson drives and a pair of Isaiah Hill triples, quickly built the lead back to 11 points at 92-81, with 7 minutes to go. Hill's 3rd three pointer a few seconds later boosted the lead to 12 points and Eli Bryant's 6th long distance shot made it 100-86 with 5:50 on the clock. The Bears never got it back to single digits as the lead fluctuated between 10 and 15 points. They did manage to hit the century mark when Thomas scored with 32 seconds left. The Cardinals dribbled 30 seconds off the clock to end the game with the only shot clock violation of the night.

The Cardinals
Eli Bryant with his 6 three pointers led Plattsburgh with 23 points. He added 8 assists 2 rebounds and a steal.

Chris Middleton had a career high 21 points with 6 rebounds, 4 assists and a block.

Jon Patron had 19 points, 8 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.

Isaiah Hill also had a career high with 15 points. He added 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal in 17 minutes off the bench.

Brandon Johnson had 13 points, 2 blocks, 1 rebound, 1 steal and 1 assist  in 25 minutes off the bench.

Ian Howard managed the only double-double in the game as he had 11 points and a game high 11 rebounds.


The Bears
Nosa Onabor captured scoring honors as the sophomore fired in 32 points. He had 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

Jayquan Thomas, a freshman, scored 17 points with 5 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Danny Delsol-Lowry, another freshman, had 15 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

Dante Langley, also a sophomore, had 11 points, 4 rebounds and 1 assist.

Both teams shot well with Potsdam going 34x66 from the field (51.5%) and Plattsburgh shooting 41x81 (50.6%). The Cards were better from long distance as they made 16x31 (51.6%) to Potsdam's 9x21 (42.9%) The Bears went 23x26 from the line (88.5%) while the Cards were 15x19 (78.9%)  Plattsburgh edged the Bears in rebounds 37-36 and won the turnover battle as they only had 11 giveaways to 17 for Potsdam.

The Bears with 4 freshman and 5 sophomores on their 12 man roster will be a team on the upswing in the next several years. I was pleased with the play I witnessed tonight from the Bears and I have high hopes for the future. I wish them and Coach Bechtel all the best.

Plattsburgh improves to 8-9 overall and 4-7 in the YAC. They will host Oneonta State on Friday at 5:30 PM and New Paltz on Saturday at 2:00 PM

Potsdam drops to 1-16 overall and 0-11 in the conference. They will play the same two teams as Plattsburgh does this weekend in reverse order.                             


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 25, 2017, 12:05:07 PM
With the entire league past the half way mark now its time for the all SUNYAC  Mid Season  team!

1st team front runner in bold letters

1 - Point Guard ( qualities..Floor general....directs traffic...takes care of the ball...takes ball from opponents...scores when needed)
Jordan Glover- Buffalo State. Glover is the ONLY pt guard who is ranked in the top 6 in SUNYAC in assists, steals and assist to turnover ratio (A/TO). Brian Sortino - Oswego ranked 3rd in assists, 16th in assists to turnover (A/TO) and 5th in scoring. Jack Eisenberg - Geneseo and Frankie Kelly - Oneonta

2 - Shooting guard ( point guard qualities with more scoring and some intangibles)
John Decker - Geneseo. Decker is 2nd in scoring and 11 in assists! Nico Mclean- Buffalo State is 14th in scoring, 2nd in assists, 1st in steals and 4th in A/To. Eli Bryant - Plattsburgh and Jayquan Thomas - Potsdam

3 - Small Forward (score....rebound....fg%...steals...assists....blks )
Lovell Smith - Buffalo State. 4th in scoring and 4th in fg%....3rd in steals...13th in A/TO. Justin Ringen - Geneseo is 11th in scoring & 10th in steals. Andrew Seniuk - New Paltz and Clifton Lyerly - Brockport

4 - Power Forward (rebounds...score....block shots...fg%..assists)
Justin Cooper - Cortland  Cooper ranks in the top 15 of 6 categories.. 6th scoring..7th in rebounds..7th in assists... 8th in steals..11th in A/To and 13th in fg%. Front runner for SUNYAC POY. Mike Henry - Buffalo State is 7th in scoring, 5th in rebounds, 5th in steals, and 5th in fg%. Mikey Mcelroy - Oneonta and Eric Mack - Plattsburgh

5 - Center (rebounds...block shots...fg%....score)
Lawrence Coleman - Oneonta. Coleman ranks in top 15 in 4 categories....3rd in scoring.....1st in rebounds......10 steals....8th in fg%. Mykelle Krecko - Oswego is 2nd in rebounds, 1st in blocked shots and 15th in fg%. Jonathon Patron - Plattsburgh and Ian Helps - Fredonia

** Note: Stats were based on Tuesday 12 noon 1/24. Based on Conference stats only ( which are the only stats that SUNYAC considers when selecting all conference selections at end of season)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 25, 2017, 01:34:44 PM
Magicman.....you are a busy man.  Was scanning the games yesterday for a game to watch.  Saw the high score of your team.  Sorry that I missed the game....was not broadcasted...as listed on d3hoops.
Is this a new trend this season in your league??
Did settled on a WBB game....Tufts playing an out of conference game.  Even a game with the No.1 team playing became boring....style and flow. 
One last question...did either team play any defense?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2017, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: amh63 on January 25, 2017, 01:34:44 PM
Magicman.....you are a busy man.  Was scanning the games yesterday for a game to watch.  Saw the high score of your team.  Sorry that I missed the game....was not broadcasted...as listed on d3hoops.
Is this a new trend this season in your league??
Did settled on a WBB game....Tufts playing an out of conference game.  Even a game with the No.1 team playing became boring....style and flow. 
One last question...did either team play any defense?

Run and gun amh634...run and gun!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 27, 2017, 12:15:10 PM
4 Games on Tap Tonight in the SUNYAC

Geneseo over Cortland, Ringen seems to have a little bit of his Swagger back and Decker is a scoring Machine.
These teams seem to be evenly matched, but Geneseo should prevail in a close high scoring game.

The Oneonta Red Dragons over the Magicman's Cardinals at Memorial Hall. The Magicman will have his Magic Wand out tonight as the Cardinals are hanging on for dear life in trying to make the playoffs, Look for this to be a high scoring affair.
This is Coach Conover's homecoming and McElroy, Coleman and Kelly will not disappoint in Getting Coach Conover a victory in a gym he has spend a lot of time in. The Red Dragons by double digits.

Brockport vs Oswego is the Featured game of the night. This is a battle of first place teams.
Look for Oswego to try and slow the pace tonight at home. There is a ton of talent out there for both teams.
Should be a great game if Oswego doesn't get into a track meet with Brockport.
I have the Lakers winning this one in a close low scoring game.


The other featured game tonight is New Paltz at Potsdam. What team will get their 1st conference win.
I think it's the Bears winning this one in another high scoring affair. Potsdam scored 100 points last weekend against Plattsburgh, so they can certainly score.

Enjoy the games






Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2017, 04:09:11 PM
Jan. 27    8 teams playing in 4 conference games today all tipping off at 5:30 PM

Geneseo State  at  Cortland State     5:30 PM

Two teams that still have hopes of winning the regular season crown meet for the first time this season. Both have 4 losses but the Knights have a game up on Cortland in the win column. The winner will be all alone in 4th place and it's possible they could move up to 3rd place with a loss by Oneonta.

Geneseo holds a 6-5 edge in this series over the past 5 years and won both meetings last year in a pair of games that were decided by a total of 3 points. The Knights won in Cortland 77-76 and then won in Geneseo 92-89 in overtime. The Knights are coming off a win over Buffalo State on Tuesday while the Red Dragons look to get back on the winning track after dropping a pair of SUNYAC games last week to Oneonta and Oswego. This game will likely hinge on which team is knocking down shots from long distance. Mad bombers abound on both teams as Cortland has 7 players with double digit 3 pointers, led by James Morales with 47 triples. Geneseo counters with two of the top 3 point shooters in the YAC. Long distance specialist, John Decker, leads the conference with 75 treys and Justin Ringen is tied for 3rd with 44. Four other Knight players have made at least 10 three pointers. The two teams are 1 & 2 in the conference in made triples and have combined for 398 baskets from behind the arc...209 from the Knights and 189 from the Red Dragons.

The oddsmakers had a tough time deciding on a favorite in this game and ultimately made the Knights a slim 2 point favorite. I think that Geneseo will win another close game that could come down to the final possession. Geneseo 93 Cortland 90.         


Brockport State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM The Featured Game of the Day

The big battle for first place Part 1. Both teams with just 1 loss in the conference and both teams on current 4 game winning steaks. The Lakers have reeled off 8 conference wins in a row after opening YAC play 1-1. Brockport suffered an inexplicable letdown at Geneseo and were handed their one loss by a double digit margin. The teams split last year's 2 games with each team winning on the other's home court, but the Lakers hold a 9-3 advantage over the last 5 years.

Brian Sortino leads 4 Lakers in double digits and he runs a disciplined offense that will be up against the quickness and relentless pressure defense that the Golden Eagles will throw at him. Brockport  comes at you in waves and hopes to wear you down. They have 11 players averaging double digit minutes with Clifton Lyerly and Hamed Shamseldin leading the way.

The oddsmakers had another tough choice in this game and decided to make Brockport the favorite by a single point, which means it's a toss up and you can flip a coin. I did and Brockport won the toss. Golden Eagles win a nailbiter 82-80.       


New Paltz State  at  Potsdam   State     5:30 PM

The battle of the basement. Two teams struggling this year but both are loaded with mostly young players. Their time will come but it may take another year before it arrives. This game is about little victories and you can bet that for the guys involved there's a lot on the line for them. No one wants to end up in last place and it's possible these team may split the season series and both end up there. Misery does love company though,  if that's the case. However for 3 weeks the winner of tonight's game won't be in the cellar. That will be cause for celebration.

The point spread favors the Bears by a whopping margin of 5 points. This is the first time they have been favored this year and after seeing them play this past Tuesday I think they come away with the win tonight in Maxcy Hall. Potsdam 75 New Paltz 69.     


Oneonta State  at  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM

The Homecoming.  Coach Cameron Conover returns to the Burgh to face his old boss for the first time. The Red Dragons are enjoying a decent year both overall and especially in the SUNYAC. The foursome of Mikey McElroy, Lawrence Coleman, Frankie Kelly and Jack Kolosky have provided outstanding senior leadership and they will prove to be a tough challenge for the sophomores and juniors that the Cardinals will counter with.

Last year when the Red Dragons came north for their visit I predicted the Cardinals would win by 5 points and that the final would be 83-78. The actual score was a 92-87 Plattsburgh win and I teased Mr. McElroy after the game about my correct 5 point Margin of Victory. I'm not quite so confident this year. The Red Dragons also have Frankie Kelly back and he wasn't playing last year. Two years ago he sunk the winning basket in overtime as the clocked ticked down and he drove to the hoop, to beat the Cardinals in Plattsburgh. That was the sole victory Oneonta has had in the last 5 years as the Cardinals hold a 9-1 edge during that span.   

I do bleed Cardinal Red though and I'm thinking that the Cards don't want to let Coach Curle down and give his former assistant a leg up on him. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a slim 2 point favorite. I wish I knew the status of one of Plattsburgh's leading scorers as he left the game on Tuesday with an injury and didn't return. Without him we could be in trouble. With him I think we pull off the minor upset. Plattsburgh 92 Oneonta 89.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
Cortland State 80  Geneseo State 69

The Red Dragons come from 16 points down in the 2nd half and outscore Geneseo 23-5 over the last 8 minutes to win this battle for 4th place.

Cortland got a game high 24 points and 7 rebounds from Justin Cooper.
Carrell Joseph had a game high 9 rebounds and 18 points.
Zach Lydon had 15 points and 4 rebounds
James Morales had 13 points and 3 assists
Michael Kelly had 6 points, 5 assists and 3 rebounds.


Geneseo got 20 points and 5 rebounds from both Justin Ringen and John Decker. Ringen added 4 assists and Decker had 2 steals and 1 assist.
Tommy Eastman had 10 points and 3 assists off the bench.
Jack Eisenberg had 7 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

In the battle of 3 point shooting from the 2 conference leaders the Red Dragons 13x31 (41.9%) managed to edge the Knights 11x32 (34.4%).

Cortland improves to 12-6 overall and 7-4 in the conference. They are tied with Oneonta for 3rd place but Oneonta with 2 victories over Cortland holds the tiebreaker so essentially they are a game up. Cortland will host Brockport tomorrow at 2:00 PM.

Geneseo drops to 12-7 overall and 7-5 in the YAC. They now hold down 5th place and will face Oswego State tomorrow at 2:00 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 04:52:34 AM
Oswego State 78  Brockport State 75

Another battle royal between these two teams that once again comes down to the final seconds. Brockport battles back from a 16 point deficit with 8 minutes to go to make it a 1 possession game with 1:14 to play. Consecutive 3 pointers from Hamed Shamseldin and Matthew Smith bring them within 3 points at 72-69. After Oswego comes up empty on their next trip, Shamseldin gets fouled and makes 1 of 2 to narrow the deficit even further with 20 seconds left. Needing to foul the Eagles send Ian Schupp to the line and he makes them both to extend the Laker lead to 4 points. Brockport hurries down and Shamseldin buries a threeball to make it 74-73 with 12 seconds on the clock. Lakers are fouled and Brian Sortino makes them both. Up by 3 points the Lakers foul and send Devonn Gavin to the line who makes a pair and once again makes it a 1 point game at 76-75. Brockport quickly fouls Sortino who sinks them both with 6 seconds left. The Golden Eagles get a 3 point attempt off at the buzzer that doesn't go down and the Lakers escape with the win and first place in the conference. Round Two in this battle will come on the final day of the regular season when Oswego travels to Brockport. There's a good chance that matchup could determine the top seed for the playoffs.

Oswego after some early back and forth play grabbed the lead and slowly built it to double digits at 23-12 with 9:49 left in the first half. They maintained an 8 to 14 point lead except for a brief moment when the Golden Eagles cut it to 6 points at 42-36 with 15:47 left in the game. The Lakers got an old fashioned 3 point play from Jamir Ferebee and back to back 3 pointers from Ian Schupp to make it 51-36, a 15 point lead once again. They gained their largest lead of the night after Sortino hit a trey and Ferebee and Sortino made a pair of free throws each, to make it 60-44 with 8:07 to go. That set the stage for the Brockport surge to get back into the game and try to pull out a win, only to come up short.

The Lakers
Brian Sortino captured scoring honors with 24 points (5x11 fg, 4x8 3's, 10x10 ft) and 3 assists.
Jamie Ferebee had 18 points (6x13 fg, 1x1 3's, 5x5 ft) and 8 rebounds.
Ian Shupp had 17 points (6x14 fg, 3x7 3's, 2x2 ft), 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 rebounds.
Tyler Pierre came off the bench and had a game high 10 rebounds. He just missed a double-double with 9 points.
Mykelle Krecko had 6 points 8 rebounds and 2 blocks.

The Golden Eagles
Devonn Gavin came off the bench to lead the Eagles with 18 points (4x13 fg, 3x9 3's, 7x10 ft). He added 6 rebounds 2 assists and a steal.
Hamed Shamseldin had 16 points (6x13 fg, 3x6 3's, 1x3 ft), 3 assists and 2 steals.
Clifton Lyerly had 12 points (5x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 2x4 ft), 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.
Cordell Torres added 10 points and 3 rebounds
Marcus Blythers had a team high 9 rebounds and 6 points
Matthew Smith had 9 points, 4 assists, 3 steals, 2 rebounds, and a block.
David Clark had 5 rebounds and 4 points in 12 minutes off the bench.

The Lakers outshot Brockport in all 3 categories and won the rebounding battle by a 39-35 margin. The Golden Eagles defensive pressure did create more turnovers as the Lakers had 14 to just 8 for Brockport. The most telling stat and the reason the Lakers won this one was their accuracy from the line. They were 27x31 (87.1%) while Port was only 18x30 (60%). In the final 10 minutes of the game the Lakers were 18x20 from the line. Brockport was 8x13.

Oswego improves to 14-4 overall and 10-1 in the conference. They have sole possession of first place and will face Geneseo on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM.

Brockport falls to 15-4 overall and 10-2 in the YAC. They will travel down to Cortland for a 2:00 PM tipoff on Saturday afternoon.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 06:07:57 AM
Potsdam State 73 New Paltz State 68

I came close to nailing this one as I had the Bears winning by a 75-69 final score.

Potsdam spotted the Hawks a 3-0 lead but went in front 5-3 and never trailed after that. They gradually built a 9 point lead at 27-18 with 8:15 to go in the first half but the Hawks scored 9 straight points to tie the game for the only time, with 6:15 left in the period. Back came the Bears with a 17-2 run, led by 6 points from Kevin Baksh. Potsdam headed to the break with a 45-31 advantage.

The teams traded baskets through the early stages of the final period, but the Bears after a Nosa Onabor 3 pointer and a layup from Jayquan Thomas grabbed their largest lead of the night at 57-41 with 13:17 left to play. The Hawks were still down by 15 when they fought their way back into contention, by exploding for a 21-7 run that brought them within a single point at 67-66. They made 5 triples in that stretch, 3 from Dylan Balducci and a pair from Nick Paquette. There was 4:51 left to play and it looked like the Bears might let another one get away. Up by two points, after a Nosa Onabor free throw, the Bears got 2 scores from Jayquan Thomas, while the Hawks came up empty in 4 consecutive possessions. Now trailing by 6 points, New Paltz finally got a basket from Balducci with 45 seconds left. Down by 2 possessions the Hawks chose not to foul (not sure why they chose that strategy) and the Bears ticked 28 seconds off the clock and missed from the field with 18 seconds left. The Hawks then took 10 seconds off the clock and called time out with 8 seconds to play. (strange move..again you're down two possessions... time is of the essence here). They inbound the ball fire up a three and miss. They foul the Bears but it's only the 6th team foul so they have to foul them again and now there's one second left. The Bears make the first and miss the second to end the game.

Potsdam shot the ball from the field slightly better than the Hawks as they were 28x62 (45.2%) The Hawks were 26x59 (44.1%). Potsdam gained an advantage from long distance as they made 12x34 (35.3%) to 7x19 for New Paltz (36.8%) That was the telling statistic of the game. The Bears were 5x8 from the line and the Hawks were 9x10. The officials kept their whistles in their pockets for the most part and only called a total of 21 fouls in the game. In other words they let em play. My kind of officials!!  Potsdam had 10 turnovers, New Paltz had 11. The Bears were outrebounded by the Hawks 37-33.

The Bears
Jayquan Thomas was the high man for the Bears with 17 points (8x13 fg, 1x1 ft), 4 rebounds ,3 assists, and 3 steals.
Serigne Kane had 13 points (5x11 fg, 2x5 3's, 1x2 ft) and just missed a double-double with a team high 9 rebounds.
Danny Delsol-Lowry also had 13 points (5x7 fg, 3x5 3's) with 3 assists and 2 rebounds.
Nosa Onabor had 9 points, 7 rebounds 1 assist, and a block in 18 minutes off the bench.
Dante Langley had 7 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds and a block.
Aaron Armstrong had 6 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals.
Kevin Baksh had 6 points, 4 assists, and 1 rebound in 13 minutes off the bench.

The Hawks
Dylan Balducci was the game's high scorer with 18 points (7x14 fg, 4x9 3's), 4 rebounds and 1 assist.
James Saunders had 10 points (4x5 fg, 0x1 3's, 2x2 ft) and 3 rebounds in 16 minutes off the bench.
Andrew Seniuk had a game high 10 rebounds, along with 8 points, 1 assist and a block.
Corey Garcia had 10 assists and 6 points.
Nick Arthur had 6 points, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Potsdam improves to 2-16 and gets Coach Jim Bechtel his first conference win as a SUNYAC coach. I think it will be the first of many to come. The Bears try and put together a winning streak as they face Oneonta on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM.

New Paltz falls to 1-16 (0-11) and will travel over to Plattsburgh to face the Cardinals on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 09:54:37 AM
Plattsburgh State 87 Oneonta State 82

I was treated to another great game tonight in Memorial Hall, as the Cardinals managed to hold off the Red Dragons and get the win, to keep alive their hopes of making the conference playoffs. I had the Cardinals winning this one by 3 points but a meaningless foul with 6 tenths of a second left sent the Cards to the line for two free throws that made the final margin 5 points.

This was a game that featured 12 ties and 14 lead changes as both teams responded whenever the other team seemed to have the upper hand. The first part of the opening period had early back and forth play until the Red Dragons forged in front with a 5 point lead at 15-10. Eight points from Lawrence Coleman powered Oneonta but then Jon Patron got in the act for the Cardinals with back to back inside moves to cut the gap to a single point. Red Dragon Frankie Kelly had 2 drives to the hoop and Oneonta got a three pointer from Coleman to put them back in front 22-16. Back came Plattsburgh with 2 baskets from Brandon Howard and another layup by Patron to tie the score at 24 with 8:24 left to play in the half. A basket by the Cardinals' Adam Jacquish gave Plattsburgh the lead, briefly, but a layup by Mikey McElroy and 5 straight points from Kevin Mackin offset a pair of free throws from Plattsburgh's Isaiah Hill to put the Red Dragons back in front, 31-28. Patron put Plattsburgh ahead once more with 4 straight points but Oneonta took the lead on another 3 pointer by Mackin  and held on for a 42-40 halftime advantage.

The 2nd half was more of the same with the teams trading baskets and Oneonta holding on to a slim lead. Twice the Cardinals would tie the score but Oneonta would respond and go back in front. Finally on the 3rd attempt, Plattsburgh, down 51-49 put together an 11-2 run and opened up the largest lead of the game to that point at 60-53. 4 points from Patron, 4 points from Chris Middleton and a 3 pointer from Eli Bryant powered the run. Back came the Red Dragons in a hurry with 8 unanswered points to recapture the lead at 61-60 with 12:37 to play. Oneonta's big 3 were front and center in the run as Coleman started it with a pair of free throws. After a Cardinal turnover, Kelly threw an alley oop pass to Coleman and then another one to McElroy, before driving to the basket himself and scoring the go ahead bucket. Two more lead changes and a tie would take place when Plattsburgh, down 67-66, scored 9 straight points to open up the largest lead of the game at 75-67 with 6 minutes to go. It was the definitive moment of the game and one in which the Red Dragons would not be able to recover from. They got as close as 83-82 with 13 seconds left but had to foul and the Cardinals went 4x4 from the line to close them out. Patron scored 9 of the Cardinals final 12 points with 3 field goals and 3 free throws.   

Plattsburgh was 34x70 from the field (48.6%). Oneonta was 33x64 (51.6%). Plattsbugh was only 4x17 from long range (23.5%) to 8x24 (33.3%) for Oneonta. The Cardinals went 15x20 from the stripe (75%) to 8x11(72.7%) for Oneonta. Both teams only had 8 turnovers each and Plattsburgh had 42 rebounds to 31 for the Red Dragons. 18 of the Cardinals rebounds were on the offensive end and Plattsburgh got 26 2nd chance points. Probably the difference maker in the game.

This was the first encounter between Coach Curle and his former assistant now at Oneonta, Coach Conover. I hope it's the first of many more.

I also got to say goodbye to 3 of Oneonta's finest. Mikey McElroy, Frankie Kelly and Lawrence Coleman paid their last visit to Memorial Hall. These 3 guys have been outstanding players for Oneonta over the course of their college careers. McElroy will leave Oneonta as the all time leading scorer in school history as he broke Zack Mager's record of 1455 points two weeks ago on January 14th. With the 22 points he scored in Friday's game against Plattsburgh he now has totaled 1554 points in a Red Dragon uniform. Not to shabby!!  Lawrence Coleman eclipsed the 1000 career points mark last week in a game against Buffalo State. He has now scored 1042 points at Oneonta. The third member of the Big Three, Frankie Kelly is rapidly closing in on 1000 career points as well. He now has 932 points and has 7 regular season games plus the playoffs to get the remaining 68 points he needs. Good Luck Frankie. I know you'll make it. My crystal ball told me that you would. ;)

The Cardinals
Jon Patron had a monster game as he captured both scoring honors and rebounding honors with his 33 points (13x27 fg, 0x4 3's, 7x9 ft) and 15 rebounds. It was his 5th double-double of the season.
Eli Bryant had 16 points (6x12 fg, 3x6 3's, 1x2 ft), 4 assists, 3 rebounds and a block.
Chris Middleton had 15 points (6x7 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x3 ft)
Ian Howard had 5 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a block in 16 minutes of court time.
Zack Coleman had 6 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 big free throws with 11 seconds left that made the Cardinal faithful breathe a little easier.   

The Red Dragons
Mikey McElroy had 22 points (9x18 fg, 2x6 3's, 2x2 ft), 5 rebounds, 4 assists and a block.
Frankie Kelly had 20 points (9x11 fg, 2x3 3's, 0x2 ft), and got a double-double with 10 assists. He also had 6 rebounds.
Lawrence Coleman had 28 points (6x9 fg, 1x1 3's, 6x7 ft), a team high 8 rebounds, and 2 steals.
Kevin Mackin had 10 points in 19 minutes off the bench.
Jack Kolosky had 6 points, 5 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and 2 steals.

The Cardinals improve to 9-9 overall and 5-7 in the conference. They are now a game out of the 6th and final playoff spot. They will host New Paltz today at 2:00 PM.

Oneonta slips to 10-8 overall and 7-4 in the YAC. They are tied with Cortland but are in sole possession of 3rd place by virtue of their 2 wins over those Red Dragons. They travel over to Potsdam today to take on the Bears at 2:00 PM.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 11:47:06 AM
Jan. 28     All ten teams in action today in five conference games

Not much time so these will be quick picks. I hate these early tipoff times.   

Geneseo State  at  Oswego State        2:00 PM[/b]

I thought Geneseo would go 1-1 on their road trip this weekend with the win coming on Friday against Cortland. Lakers are 4-2 in the last 6 games against the Knights and the oddsmakers have made them a 2 point favorite. I'm going with the Lakers in this one by an 82-77 final score.


Brockport State  at  Cortland State        2:00 PM

The Golden Eagles are favored here by a single point. They have to be angry after falling out of first place and  I think they take it out on the Red Dragons. It should be a close game but I'm going with Brockport by an 89-83 final score.   


Oneonta State  at  Potsdam   State     2:00 PM

Will the Bears start a winning streak after getting their first conference win yesterday? The answer to that question would be...no they won't. Not this year and not against this team. Oneonta doesn't want to make that long bus ride home with an 0-2 to show for the weekend. The point spread favors the Red Dragons by a 15 point margin. The Bears team I saw on Tuesday that put up 100 points would cover that spread but I'm not sure they can do that again. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they will...barely. Oneonta 90 Potsdam 76.   

   
New Paltz State  at  Plattsburgh State        2:00 PM

The Hawks are hungry for a win but the Cardinals are fighting for a playoff spot. The Cards are 8-2 over the last 5 years and won both meetings last year. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 22 point favorite. That seems like a lot and the Cardinals have only won by that margin just once all year. Then again they haven't played any other 1 win teams. The Hawks beat Springfield College in Springfield for their 1 win and Springfield beat Amherst College, when that team, formerly known as the Lord Jeffs, was the #1 team in the country. Can you see where I'm going here?  I don't see any upset here but they could cover the spread. Plattsburgh 94 New Paltz 74.


Buffalo State  at  Fredonia State        4:00 PM

The plain and simple fact here is...the Bengals can't afford to lose this game. Holding down the 6th and final playoff spot with Plattsburgh breathing down their neck is not a comfortable feeling but at least they have the benefit of a 1 game lead. They control their own destiny. Keep winning and they'll be fine. Plattsburgh needs help to achieve a playoff berth. The Blue Devils are also in the mix as they are currently tied with Plattsburgh and can't be counted out...especially if they can pull off the upset today over the Bengals. The big question is will Ian Helps play or is he out once again. I heard that he may be out and if so the Bengals task today got a lot easier. He's the one guy that Fredonia needs in their lineup.  The odddsmakers have made the Bengals a 10 point choice. Last year the teams split but the Bengals are 9-1 over the last 5 years. Without Helps to worry about, they'll win by 20. Buffalo State 95 Fredonia 75   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 28, 2017, 12:13:58 PM
Full slate of games this afternoon:

Oswego over Geneseo. Brian Sortino and gang are getting ready for the playoffs. They seem to get better and better with each game.

Brockport all over Cortland.

Buffalo State all over Fredonia.

Plattsburgh is starting to play they way we all expected. The Magicman's Magic Wand is finally starting to work. He also doesn't hurt that Jon Patron has come to life.
Plattsburgh all over New Paltz. I honestly think they will make the playoffs.

Oneonta all over Potsdam. Potsdam has to finally feel good getting their first win last night. But the Big 3 of McElroy, Coleman, Kelly and throw in Kolosky and the Red Dragons hold onto 3rd place in the standings.

Things are certainly getting interesting in the middle of the pack. You Gotta love the SUNYAC

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 01:59:36 PM
Fwiw. Buffalo State vs Fredonia tip off is at 4pm...not 5:30!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 28, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
Very tough weekend for Brockport and Geneseo
Great weekend for Cortland and Plattsburgh

It looked like the Golden Eagles were unbeatable early on. But this is the SUNYAC and things always seem to get a little crazy this time of year.
They have Geneseo next who beat them up pretty good the last time they played them.

It starting to really tighten up in the standings after Oswego. The last portion of the season will separate the boys from the Men.
Can't wait.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 01:59:36 PM
Fwiw. Buffalo State vs Fredonia tip off is at 4pm...not 5:30!

I guess you didn't see which time I had posted as the starting time for the Buffalo State game in my post up above. I even sent D3hoops a note on Thursday to tell them about the correct tipoff time but they were probably busy doing other things and didn't read the note.

Edit:  It's 5:11 PM and I just went to the D3hoops scoreboard. They are showing a score of Buffalo State 60 Fredonia 42 with 14:39 left to play in the game. Apparently they did get my message and made the change.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:21:28 PM
Cortland State 77 Brockport 70

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
Oneonta State 97 Potsdam State 71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:23:37 PM
Oswego State 81  Geneseo State 70
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
Buffalo State 83 Fredonia 75.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 01:59:36 PM
Fwiw. Buffalo State vs Fredonia tip off is at 4pm...not 5:30!

I guess you didn't see which time I had posted as the starting time for the Buffalo State game in my post up above. I even sent D3hoops a note on Thursday to tell them about the correct tipoff time but they were probably busy doing other things and didn't read the note.

Edit:  It's 5:11 PM and I just went to the D3hoops scoreboard. They are showing a score of Buffalo State 60 Fredonia 42 with 14:39 left to play in the game. Apparently they did get my message and made the change.   

I was making the time reference because the SUNYAC site had a 5:30 tipoff!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 01:59:36 PM
Fwiw. Buffalo State vs Fredonia tip off is at 4pm...not 5:30!

I guess you didn't see which time I had posted as the starting time for the Buffalo State game in my post up above. I even sent D3hoops a note on Thursday to tell them about the correct tipoff time but they were probably busy doing other things and didn't read the note.

Edit:  It's 5:11 PM and I just went to the D3hoops scoreboard. They are showing a score of Buffalo State 60 Fredonia 42 with 14:39 left to play in the game. Apparently they did get my message and made the change.   

I was making the time reference because the SUNYAC site had a 5:30 tipoff!

I don't think anybody on these boards other than you, or maybe Fran, check for game times on the SUNYAC board. Most everyone just goes to the D3hoops scoreboard or the D3hoops team pages.  :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2017, 12:54:10 AM
Plattsburgh State 90 New Paltz State 56

I was pretty sure that Plattsburgh was going to put a big number on the board tonight and thought that the Hawks might put a fair amount up as well and cover the 22 point spread. My prediction of a 94-74 Plattsburgh win was pretty close on the Plattsburgh end but New Paltz didn't shoot very well and struggled to put points on the board.

The Cardinals were celebrating Senior Night and the only two seniors on the team, Owen Mitchell and Majestic Grigg, are players that haven't seen a lot of action. They both got to start tonight and both of them put some stats on the board, to the delight of the fans at Memorial Hall. Grigg's trip to the free throw line gave Plattsburgh  its first lead of the night and shortly after that a three pointer from Mitchell gave the Cardinals another lead that they would never relinquish. Plattsburgh doubled up the Hawks at 16-8 and then again at 30-15 with 8:20 left in the half. Mitchell's 3rd 3 pointer of the period followed by a trip to the line where he made 1 of 2 gave the Cards a 20 point lead at 37-17 with 4:40 to go. Another pair from the line by Jon Patron gave Plattsburgh their largest lead of the period of 22 points at 39-17. The Hawks got a pair of triples from Nick Paquette and another one from Malik Seelal to cut the lead to 14 points at 43-29 as the half ended.

Plattsburgh opened the 2nd half with a 15-3 run that broke the game wide open. The score was 58-32 and there was still 15 minutes to go. The Cards' Tim Smith drained a 3 pointer then stole the ball and fed a wide open Brandon Johnson for a layup that made the score 69-39. Coach Curle then got his entire lineup into the act from that point forward and 12 guys made it into the scoring column as they cruised to the final score of 90-56.

The Cardinals
Jon Patron once again had a double-double with a game high 17 points and a game high 10 rebounds. He added 2 assists and 2 steals.

Brandon Johnson had 13 points, 3 steals, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 beautiful dunk from the 5'11" point guard.

Eli Bryant had 12 points and 5 assists.

Owen Mitchell made his senior night a memorable one as he had a career high 10 points with a trio of 3 pointers. He added 2 rebounds and a block in 17 minutes of court time.

Senior Majestic Grigg only had a single point but he grabbed 6 rebounds with a steal in 14 minutes of court time.

Isaiah Johnson showed his versaltility as the big man scored 9 points and had 3 rebounds in 10 minutes on the court. He drained one from long distance, made a spinning drive to the basket for a pretty layup, hit a pull up jumper and sank a pair from the free throw line.

Tim Smith had 6 points going 2x2 from downtown. He had 2 assists, a steal and a rebound in 12 minutes off the bench.

Zack Coleman had 6 points 3 assists and 3 steals.

The Hawks
Malik Seelal had 14 points and 4 rebounds.

Nick Arthur had 11 points, 4 rebounds a block and a steal.

Nick Paquette had 9 points and a steal.

James Saunders had 8 points, 3 rebounds 1 assist and a steal.

Corey Garcia only had 3 points but had a game high 8 assists, a team high 7 rebounds and 3 steals.

The Cardinals got 7 of their 11 three pointers from 4 players who see the least amount of court time. Plattsburgh outshot the Hawks 47% to 37 %, had 43 rebounds to 28 for New Paltz and only had 11 turnovers while forcing the Hawks into 21 miscues.

Plattsburgh has now won 4 in a row after suffering through the longest losing streak in recent memory and has climbed back above .500 with a 10-9 overall record. They are now 6-7 in the conference and remain a game behind Buffalo State and Geneseo for the 6th and final playoff spot. The Cardinals are off until next weekend when they travel to central NY to tackle Cortland State on Friday night at 5:30 and Oswego State on Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM. Those will be the make or break games for Plattsburgh's playoff hopes.

New Paltz slips to 1-17 overall and 0-12 in the YAC. They travel to western NY next weekend to take on  Fredonia State and Buffalo State.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 29, 2017, 11:35:07 AM
Magicman...you still have the "magic", my friend.  Best of luck on your team reaching the playoffs.  It has been a crazy year elsewhere.  See that Middlebury closes out their regular season with your team.  Should be an interesting game.  Amherst closes its regular season with away games at Middlebury and Hamilton...two critical away games.  All mentioned games will impact all the mentioned schools' post season chances, imo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 29, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 01:59:36 PM
Fwiw. Buffalo State vs Fredonia tip off is at 4pm...not 5:30!

I guess you didn't see which time I had posted as the starting time for the Buffalo State game in my post up above. I even sent D3hoops a note on Thursday to tell them about the correct tipoff time but they were probably busy doing other things and didn't read the note.

Edit:  It's 5:11 PM and I just went to the D3hoops scoreboard. They are showing a score of Buffalo State 60 Fredonia 42 with 14:39 left to play in the game. Apparently they did get my message and made the change.   

Not sure who you sent the alert to, but that isn't a big deal. The game times on our site are either supplied by the school's via their sites (if they are a fellow Presto client), updated themselves (if they are not Presto and help us out), or updated by us (if the school doesn't feel like assisting us). If it falls to the last category, there is a chance it gets past us as we can't spend every day double-checking game times across the board... unless we are alerted. (I got a voicemail the other day about an incorrect time, but the message stopped halfway through giving me no info on what game.)

But the bigger thing is even if the time is wrong, once live stats starts (if they are a fellow Presto site) or someone starts updating the score, it overrides the time info.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2017, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 29, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: magicman on January 28, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 28, 2017, 01:59:36 PM
Fwiw. Buffalo State vs Fredonia tip off is at 4pm...not 5:30!

I guess you didn't see which time I had posted as the starting time for the Buffalo State game in my post up above. I even sent D3hoops a note on Thursday to tell them about the correct tipoff time but they were probably busy doing other things and didn't read the note.

Edit:  It's 5:11 PM and I just went to the D3hoops scoreboard. They are showing a score of Buffalo State 60 Fredonia 42 with 14:39 left to play in the game. Apparently they did get my message and made the change.   

Not sure who you sent the alert to, but that isn't a big deal. The game times on our site are either supplied by the school's via their sites (if they are a fellow Presto client), updated themselves (if they are not Presto and help us out), or updated by us (if the school doesn't feel like assisting us). If it falls to the last category, there is a chance it gets past us as we can't spend every day double-checking game times across the board... unless we are alerted. (I got a voicemail the other day about an incorrect time, but the message stopped halfway through giving me no info on what game.)

But the bigger thing is even if the time is wrong, once live stats starts (if they are a fellow Presto site) or someone starts updating the score, it overrides the time info.

I used the "drop us a note" option under the "contact" drop down menu and addressed it to Gordon since he replied to my last message when I used that option.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 30, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
I've been experimenting with some new things recently on these boards.  I posted a similar chart on the Little East board, but I thought it might be worthwhile on this board as well.  The conference results so far (you can right click and select view image to make it larger or just click on it and use the scroll bar, as pointed out by magicman):

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi64.tinypic.com%2Fdo5hs1.jpg&hash=52fa10dbda66109134a21e149c0dbb3d9fdbdd73)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 30, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
I've been experimenting with some new things recently on these boards.  I posted a similar chart on the Little East board, but I thought it might be worthwhile on this board as well.  The conference results so far (you can right click and select view image to make it larger):

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi64.tinypic.com%2Fdo5hs1.jpg&hash=52fa10dbda66109134a21e149c0dbb3d9fdbdd73)

Good job AllStar. Now you'll have to come back and update them every Sunday night. ;D

I didn't have to right right click to make the image larger. Just click on the image and it gets bigger with a slide bar and click again and it returns to the small size. It even does that in the quote I posted.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 30, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 30, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 30, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
I've been experimenting with some new things recently on these boards.  I posted a similar chart on the Little East board, but I thought it might be worthwhile on this board as well.  The conference results so far (you can right click and select view image to make it larger):

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi64.tinypic.com%2Fdo5hs1.jpg&hash=52fa10dbda66109134a21e149c0dbb3d9fdbdd73)

Good job AllStar. Now you'll have to come back and update them every Sunday night. ;D

I didn't have to right right click to make the image larger. Just click on the image and it gets bigger with a slide bar and click again and it returns to the small size. It even does that in the quote I posted.

Thank you!  I thought it would be worthwhile...and I certainly will update it and post it again after another few games.  While making this, I was surprised at the imbalance of home and road games that teams have left.  I certainly understand that in a league like this, given the distances traveled, that it is likely a must...but, for example, Oneonta and New Paltz have all home games left, while your Cardinals have all road games.  I certainly understand the logistics, but that can be difficult.  I'll keep my experiments going...who knows what I'll come up with next.  ;D  I think the chart can be useful for determining tiebreakers...and I enhanced it with color.  Hopefully the abbreviations are understandable.  By the way, the teams are ordered by the standings.  I probably should have done alphabetical, but I went with the standings instead (though it will probably stay in the same order for any updated ones).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 30, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 30, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 30, 2017, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 30, 2017, 12:55:59 PM
I've been experimenting with some new things recently on these boards.  I posted a similar chart on the Little East board, but I thought it might be worthwhile on this board as well.  The conference results so far (you can right click and select view image to make it larger):

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Good job AllStar. Now you'll have to come back and update them every Sunday night. ;D

I didn't have to right right click to make the image larger. Just click on the image and it gets bigger with a slide bar and click again and it returns to the small size. It even does that in the quote I posted.

Thank you!  I thought it would be worthwhile...and I certainly will update it and post it again after another few games.  While making this, I was surprised at the imbalance of home and road games that teams have left.  I certainly understand that in a league like this, given the distances traveled, that it is likely a must...but, for example, Oneonta and New Paltz have all home games left, while your Cardinals have all road games.  I certainly understand the logistics, but that can be difficult.  I'll keep my experiments going...who knows what I'll come up with next.  ;D  I think the chart can be useful for determining tiebreakers...and I enhanced it with color.  Hopefully the abbreviations are understandable.  By the way, the teams are ordered by the standings.  I probably should have done alphabetical, but I went with the standings instead (though it will probably stay in the same order for any updated ones).

Good stuff All star. I have done 1 of these in Black and white over the past couple of years but this really stands out!  And I agree that the disparity in scheduling is hard to understand. Wait till you see next years conference schedule (which is already out)!

Edited to add....When you blow this up its like BOOM!!!  Damn good job!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 31, 2017, 01:23:28 PM
Some thoughts while wondering how in the heck, my BENGALS are gonna "try" to slow down the D.R.D.D. (Dynamic Red Dragon Duo) of McElroy and Coleman Friday night!!

SUNYAC players ranked in top 25 of some major DIII categories

Assist to Turnover ratio
12 - Jordan Glover - BUFFALO STATE
19 - Jack Eisenberg- GENESEO

Blocks per game & total blocks
8 - Mykelle Kyrecko - OSWEGO

Free Throw Attempts
20 John Decker - GENESEO
21 Lawrence Coleman - ONEONTA

Free Throws made
7 Decker - GENESEO
12 Coleman -ONEONTA

Free Throw %
14 Decker - GENESEO

Offensive rebounds
19 - Ian Howard - PLATTSBURGH

Pts per game
12 - Decker - GENESEO

Steals per game
5 - Glover - BUFFALO STATE

3 ptrs per game and total 3 ptrs made
3 - Decker - GENESEO

Total Fg's made
9 - Lovell Smith - BUFFALO STATE
11 - Mikey McElroy - ONEONTA

Total steals
5 - Glover - BUFFALO STATE
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 31, 2017, 04:32:20 PM
Brian Sortino was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Here's the write up from the YAC website.

Brian Sortino, MBB  Oswego
 
Sortino turned in a phenomenal weekend, which helped lead to a couple of major conference wins for the Lakers. In Friday's 78-75 win over at-the-time SUNYAC leader Brockport, the senior scored 24 points on nearly 50 percent shooting from the field. He also sank all 10 of his free throw attempts, including those late in the contest with the game's result on the line. During Saturday's 81-70 win over Geneseo, the Fairport, N.Y. native notched a season-high 33 points, while also recording his second-career double-double with a season-high 10 rebounds. He was 11-for-18 (61.1%) and 8-for-9 from the charity stripe in the contest. Oswego's two wins now gives it solo possession of first place in the conference standings.

Congratulations on a big weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 01, 2017, 01:39:09 AM
I do like my new toys, magicman.   ;)  Trust me, I'll slow down now.

You must have seen my new one on the Little East board...so I made one for the SUNYAC too.  These recap the regular season non-conference games, given that there are only two left this year.

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2017, 03:28:48 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 01, 2017, 01:39:09 AM
I do like my new toys, magicman.   ;)  Trust me, I'll slow down now.

You must have seen my new one on the Little East board...so I made one for the SUNYAC too.  These recap the regular season non-conference games, given that there are only two left this year.

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Well AllStar, you've outdid yourself  with this one. Not only the scores, but the conferences the teams were from and the region that they are in. Everything all at a glance.  Pretty too.  ;D

I'd give you a plus K for this one but I already gave you one about 12 hours ago, so you'll have to wait a little longer for another one. :D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 01, 2017, 12:08:03 PM
I'll try to slow down now, but I'll also keep thinking of things that allow me to use my new toy.   ;D  I like it!  I never knew you could post fancy graphics!  I hope my Keene team can learn from last night and finish strong.  They turned the ball over way too many times in the first half and fell behind by too many points, especially on the road.  Their second half comeback attempts fell short.  The NCAA Tournament should be the goal...whether they get there or not, who knows.  They'll have to play well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2017, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 01, 2017, 01:39:09 AM
I do like my new toys, magicman.   ;)  Trust me, I'll slow down now.

You must have seen my new one on the Little East board...so I made one for the SUNYAC too.  These recap the regular season non-conference games, given that there are only two left this year.

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Outstanding..again!!  Heck its the first time that I have taken a look at Eastern Conns record this year (2017). I see your boys at Keene State are their only blemish since 12/18!  i imagine that the 2/15 game will be for the LEC regular season title??  Good luck and keep it up with these little surprises!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 02, 2017, 07:47:49 PM
QuoteOutstanding..again!!  Heck its the first time that I have taken a look at Eastern Conns record this year (2017). I see your boys at Keene State are their only blemish since 12/18!  i imagine that the 2/15 game will be for the LEC regular season title??  Good luck and keep it up with these little surprises!!

Here's another surprise for you (I'm at it again  ;))...I figured this would be useful going down the stretch.  The standings as of now:

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 02, 2017, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 02, 2017, 07:47:49 PM
QuoteOutstanding..again!!  Heck its the first time that I have taken a look at Eastern Conns record this year (2017). I see your boys at Keene State are their only blemish since 12/18!  i imagine that the 2/15 game will be for the LEC regular season title??  Good luck and keep it up with these little surprises!!

Here's another surprise for you (I'm at it again  ;))...I figured this would be useful going down the stretch.  The standings as of now:

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Very very very helpful.  We all know that tiebreakers are the milk to the SUNYAC cereal!  You may want to copyright these documents.  There have been some folks who have been known to ....... never mind!  This last display may be the most helpful with 16 days left in regular season!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 03, 2017, 11:34:19 AM
Just looked at this weekends schedule.

Magicmans Cardinals have a BIG weekend coming up. I know the Magicman is getting his Magic potion and Magic Wand ready.
This is the time to separate the boys from the Men for the Cardinals. They are at Cortland tonight and Oswego tomorrow.
If they have any chance to get into the playoffs this is the weekend for them to come up BIG.

I wish them the BEST of LUCK. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 03, 2017, 12:51:30 PM
5 games on Tap tonight.
3 of the Games look to be Featured Games of the evening.

I'm taking the Plattsburgh Cardinals over the Red Dragons of Cortland.
Both teams had big wins last weekend and are playing well.
I think the Cardinals are starting to get their Swagger Back. Look for Jon Patron to have another Big Night.
Plattsburgh in a close one.

Geneseo vs Brockport at Brockport. Does anyone ever get a win in Brockport.
They are a very tough team at home. They will also be looking to get revenge on the Knights after getting beat up pretty bad in Geneseo the last time they played.
Brockport by double digits.

Fredonia all over New Paltz
Oswego all over Potsdam

Buffalo State at Oneonta.
The Red Dragons will look to get their own revenge on the Bengals tonight at Dewar arena.
The Red Dragons are home for the last 6 games of the season.
Look for McElroy, Coleman and Kelly to come up big tonight with a little home cooking to get the win.

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2017, 05:26:03 PM
Feb. 3  All ten teams in action tonight with 3 big games among playoff teams and playoff hopefuls 

Buffalo State  at  Oneonta State        5:30 PM  Big Game #1

The Red Dragons are looking for revenge after dropping a close one in Buffalo 2 weeks ago. That game was tied at 90 with 1:43 to play when the Bengals got  pair of free throws from Nico McLean, and then after Oneonta came up empty, a huge 3 pointer from Mike Henry to give them some breathing room with only 42 seconds left. They hit their free throws down the stretch and won going away by a 101-94 final but the game was closer than the score indicated. It was the 3rd straight win by the Bengals who have won 8 of the past 11 meetings. Oneonta is currently in sole possession of 3rd place and needs a win to hang onto that position and stay ahead of Cortland. They still have hopes of gaining the top seed. Buffalo State occupies the 6th and final playoff spot with a rejuvenated Plattsburgh State team, winners of 4 straight conference games, breathing down their necks.

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a slim 1 point road favorite in this game. It should once again come down to the final minutes of play but this time the Red Dragons eke out a win. Oneonta 89 Buffalo State 86     
   
Potsdam State  at  Oswego State        5:30 PM

This may not be a game that has conference standing implications (although if Oswego gets upset that will have implications) but it is a big game for the Bears. A win here would make their year. This is kind of like their Superbowl and taking down the conference leaders would be a positive building point for next season. Somewhere among their final 6 games the Bears need to find another win (2 would be even better) which would equal their total wins (3) in the past 2 years. Oswego, having won their big battle with Brockport last Friday, to capture sole possession of first place, then got a little more space between the Golden Eagles and themselves, when travel partner, Cortland, took down Brockport the very next night.

The Lakers are big favorites in this game and will most likely win the game, to spoil any chances of a Potsdam upset. The oddsmakers have made them a 23 point favorite. The Bears were only down by 11 points with under 2 minutes to play, in their last meeting, though, and could cover the spread. Oswego 88 Potsdam 68.   
   
Fredonia  State  at  New Paltz State        5:30 PM

The Blue Devils have lost 3 in a row since they have been without Ian Helps. If he doesn't play tonight the Hawks may get their first conference victory. The oddsmakers have Fredonia favored by 12 points, but they think Helps will be in the lineup. I don't think it matters as Fredonia should get the win either way. The Hawks could cover the spread though. Fredonia 74 New Paltz 66.
 

Geneseo State  at  Brockport State        5:30 PM  Big Game  #2

The Knights are scrambling to stay ahead of Buff State but they have a tougher schedule down the stretch, beginning with tonight's game at Bockport. They beat the Golden Eagles in Geneseo by 20 points, in the midst of a 6 game winning streak that found them with a 5-1 conference record and in first place in the YAC. Since then they have went 2-5 in conference games and are in 5th place. The Golden Eagles are undefeated at home with a 7-0 record and coming off a lost weekend to central New York. They have dropped a game and a half behind Oswego for the top seed and will need to beat their travel partners tonight to avoid falling further behind.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 5 point favorite in this one. That sounds about right. Brockport keeps that home unbeaten streak alive with an 87-82 win over the Knights.

Plattsburgh State     at  Cortland State        5:30 PM  Big Game #3

Can you say life support? Because that's what the Cardinals are on. And they are on the road for two tough games this weekend to make things even worse. I've had to invoke the help of every magician, prestidigitator, oracle and escape artist I've ever known in my many past lifetimes. So the Oracle at Delphi, Merlin, Nostradamus, Rasputin, Houdini, and David Copperfield have been brought into play here to get my Cardinals a win. I even sent some messages up to that big Magicman in the heavens, who has divine power, to shine a little of that light on the Cardinals this weekend.

Cortland sits in 4th place right now and still has hopes for a first round bye. The top seed isn't out of the question. They handled Plattsburgh in the Burgh last month with a barrage of 3 pointers from 6 different players. They also were one of the few teams to beat the Cardinals off the board.

Plattsburgh is on a 4 game win streak since they stumbled badly with a decades long 8 game losing streak. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a solid 5 point favorite in this one. I as usual am taking my Cardinals to pull an upset here by a final score of 81-77.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2017, 06:30:24 PM
Cortland State leads Plattsburgh State 41-32 at the break.

Brockport State leads Geneseo State 57-50 with 14 minutes to play.

Oneonta State and Buffalo State were tied at 44 each.

Oswego State over Potsdam State 41-24 at halftime.

New Paltz leads Fredonia 37-33 with. 15:20 left in the game 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2017, 07:53:13 PM
Oneonta State 103  Buffalo State 85

The Red Dragons broke up a tight game by opening the 2nd half with a 14-3 run to go in front by double digits at 58-47. The Bengals never got closer than 10 points after that.

Mikey McElroy with a team high 32 points for the Red Dragons. Lawrence Coleman had 25 points and Frankie Kelly had a double-double with 18 points and 14 assists. Jack Kolosky had a game high 9 rebounds and 8 points.

Buffalo State got a big game from Lovell Smith with a game high 42 points. Nico McLean had 14 points. Mike Henry had 10 points and a game high 9 rebounds.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2017, 09:14:12 PM
Oswego State 93  Potsdam State 60

The Bears trailed 10-9 after 5 minutes of play. 4 minutes later it was 25-11 and the Lakers were never threatened. Down by 17 points 41-24, at the break, the Bears kept it within shouting distance for the early part of the 2nd half. They were as close as 12 points at 43-31, but it quickly became yelling distance as the Lakers went on another 10-2 run and the lead was now 20 points at 53-33. The Bears never got closer than 14 points and that happened briefly with 11:33 left to play. The Lakers quickly went back up by 20 and stretched it to a game high 33 on their final possession.

Jamir Ferebee had a game high 21 points. Brian Sortino had 16 points and 5 assists. Mykelle Krecko had a game high 15 rebounds.

The Bears got a team high 16 points from point guard Danny Delsol-Lowry. He also had a team high 7 rebounds and a game high 4 steals.

Nosa Onabor had 12 points and 6 boards. Serigne Kane and Dante Langley both had 10 points.

The Bears didn't shoot the ball very well especially from long range making only 2 of 14 shots. Oswego hit 9 of 21 from behind the arc.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 01:29:20 AM
Fredonia State 65  New Paltz State 61

The Blue Devils welcomed back Ian Helps who helped them win with a game high 17 points. The Hawks had an 11 point lead with 6 minutes to go in the first half and still had the lead at 50-48 with 6:39 left to play. The Blue Devils took the lead after that and were never headed.

Dante Williams with 16 points and Richard De La Cruz with 12 for Fredonia. Williams had a double-double as he grabbed a game high 12 rebounds.

The Hawks were led by Dylan Balducci with 15 points, James Saunders with 14 points and Andrew Seniuk with 13 points. Seniuk led the team with 8 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 09:29:44 AM
Brockport State 98  Geneseo State 79

The Golden Eagles trailed the Knights 35-34 with 2:15 left in the first half, but went on a 10-2 run to head into the break up 44-37. They never trailed the rest of the game. The Knights were down 12 points at 68-56 after back to back 3 pointers from Brockport's Hamed Shamseldin and Devonn Gavin with 11:42 left to play. Geneseo then put together a 12-2 run, fueled by 7 points from Justin Ringen, to close within 2 points at 70-68 and when Gavin scored for the Eagles to make it a 2 possession game, another Ringen layup narrowed the gap again. That was the last time the Knights would be close, however, as Brockport quickly exploded for 11 straight points to open up a 13 point lead with 4:41 left to play. Brockport's lead only got larger as they made 4 layups and hit 7 of 8 from the line, in the final minutes.

Hamed Shamseldin led the Golden Eagles with 25 points, 7 assists, a game high 6 rebounds and 3 steals.
Devonn Gavin had 20 points, 6 assists and a game high 6 rebounds in 29 minutes off the bench.
Matthew Smith had 13 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals.
Marcus Blythers had 11 points, a game high 6 rebounds, 4 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assist.
Cliton Lyerly had 11 points, 5 rebounds, and a block.

Justin Ringen had a game high 32 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals.
John Decker had 20 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 1 steal.
Jack Eisenberg also had a game high 6 rebounds, 5 points, 3 assists and a steal.

Not often that a team outshoots Geneseo from behind the arc but Brockport was 12x25 from long distance. The Knights were 9x25.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 01:04:06 PM
Cortland State 80  Plattsburgh State 59

The Red Dragons have the Cardinals number this year, more so than any other team in the conference. Plattsburgh fell behind early in this contest and trailed by multiple possessions 5 minutes into the game. They got down by 9 at 23-14, then fought back to close within 2 points at 23-21 on a 3 pointer by Eli Bryant. Cortland outscored them 9-2 and the lead was back up to 9 points. It grew to 12 points before another 3 pointer by Bryant  made the halftime score 41-32.

The teams traded baskets early in the 2nd period but Cortland opened up a 15 point lead and the Cardinals could never get close enough to threaten the Red Dragon comfort margin. Several times Plattsburgh got it to single digits only to have Cortland respond with an answer. The last time Plattsburgh had a chance was after Bryant hit his final 3 pointer to make it 68-58 with 5 minutes to play. Cortland outscored them 12-1 in the final stretch to win going away.

Plattsburgh had 16 turnovers to only 6 for Cortland. The Cards made 6 from behind the arc while Cortland made 8.

Cortland was led by a game high 23 points from Justin Cooper. He had 9 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals.
Zach Lydon had 17 points, 5 steals, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks nd 2 assists.
James Morales had 9 points, 4 assists and a steal.
Michael Kelly had 8 points, 5 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Eli Bryant led the Cardinals with 20 points, 5 rebounds, and 1 assist.
Jon Patron had 19 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists.
Isaiah Hill had 11 points, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks.
Chris Middleton had a game high 10 rebounds and 4 assists.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 04, 2017, 01:43:17 PM
4 Games on Tap today

Pretty easy picks

Cortland all over Potsdam, Cortland playing great basketball.
Buffalo State all over New Paltz, going to take last nights loss to Oneonta out on the Hawks.
Oneonta all over Fredonia, A little home cooking for the BIG 3.
Oswego all over Plattsburgh, after last night performance don't know if Plattsburgh has anything left in the tank.

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
Feb. 4         8 Teams in 4 conference games today

No time so just some quick picks

Potsdam 60    Cortland 92
    
Plattsburgh State  82  Oswego State 78
      
Buffalo State  94   New Paltz  70
        
Fredonia  69      Oneonta    85   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 02:42:05 PM
Halftime score..

Oswego leads Plattsburgh 41-36

Brian Sortino with 13 points. Ian Schupp with 9 and Keith Tyson with 8.

Jon Patron with 10 points and Isaiah Hill with 7 for Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 02:49:58 PM
Oneonta leads Fredonia 48-38 at the half.

Lawrence Coleman with 18 points. Mikey McElroy with 11 and Frankie Kelly with 8 for the Red Dragons.

Nicc Johnson leads Fredonia with 11 and Ian Helps has 9.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 02:53:30 PM
Cortland over Potsdam by a 46-27 score at the break.

Mike Kelly leads Cortland with 10 points. Justin Cooper has 9 and Isaiah Cotton with 8.

Danny Delsol-Lowry is the high man for Potsdam with 10 points and Serigne Kane has 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2017, 02:56:24 PM
Buffalo State leads New Paltz 38-32 at the half.

Dom Grayer tops the Bengals with 15 points and Lovell Smith has 12.

Dylan Balducci leads the Hawks with 10 points. Andrew Seniuk and Nick Arthur both have 6 poins.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 05, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
I told you I'd return with updates.   ;D

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 05, 2017, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 05, 2017, 06:31:31 PM
I told you I'd return with updates.   ;D

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All star...you are the man...  Hands down!
 

Please don't disappear before Feb 18th!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 05, 2017, 08:50:06 PM
Un official regional rankings
http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 05, 2017, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 05, 2017, 08:50:06 PM
Un official regional rankings
http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/

I certainly am not planning to disappear before or after February 18.   ;D

My Keene Owls are certainly disappearing, though, with really frustrating losses to two conference bottom feeders that are hurting their resume and place in the standings significantly.  I am not optimistic any more.

This regional ranking stuff is good stuff!  Thanks.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 06, 2017, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 05, 2017, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 05, 2017, 08:50:06 PM
Un official regional rankings
http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-regional-rankings-data/

I certainly am not planning to disappear before or after February 18.   ;D

My Keene Owls are certainly disappearing, though, with really frustrating losses to two conference bottom feeders that are hurting their resume and place in the standings significantly.  I am not optimistic any more.

This regional ranking stuff is good stuff!  Thanks.

3 of your last 4 at home.  Looks like your game at E Conn on the 15th is for all the marbles.  I wish my BENGALS were in 2nd place right now!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 06, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
Some thoughts [while still trying to recover from the Falcons historic choke >:( >:( >:( >:( ], about the SUNYACs chance at at least 3 and possibly 4 NCAA bids,

latest Massey rankings

SUNYAC is ranked 14th best conference
Liberty is ranked 21st best conference
Empire 8 is ranked 32nd best conference!

5 of top 7 East teams are in the SUNYAC!!  And the top 5 'Yac teams are ranked ahead of any of the Empire 8 teams. 

U of Rochester           7th (UAA has 4 games left versus top 4 teams [aside from U of R #2 in UAA] in conference - #1 Washington U, #3 Emory, #4 Carnegie Melon and #5 Chicago)
St Lawrence             38th  (LIBERTY LEAGUE has 4 games left including Skidmore and Clarkson)
Oswego              44th
Brockport           47th
Cortland             73rd
Buffalo State      74th
Oneonta             76th
Skidmore                  80th    ( LIBERTY LEAGUE 4 games left including Hobart, Union and St Lawrence)
St John Fisher          89th      ( EMPIRE 8  5 games left including Stevens, Clarkson, Nazareth and Hartwick)
Hobart                     102nd   ( LIBERTY LEAGUE 4 games left including Skidmore and Union)
Union                       103rd     ( LIBERTY LEAGUE4 games left including Skidmore and Hobart)
Stevens                   114th      ( EMPIRE 8 games 5 games left including St John Fisher and nazareth)
Geneseo            122nd
Plattsburgh       148th
Clarkson                  164th
Nazareth                 174th
Hartwick                  176th


I'm gonna let this marinate for a week or so....... ;)

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2017, 05:24:43 PM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week is Frankie Kelly from Oneonta State. Not only has Frankie eclipsed the 500 assist mark for his career. He is rapidly approaching the 1000 point mark also, as he just needs 27 points to reach that magic number. The SUNYAC write up below doesn't mention that he scored the 18 points and 14 assists on Friday against Buffalo State in a game Oneonta won 103-85. On Saturday they beat Fredonia 89-74. Congratulations to Frankie.



Frankie Kelly, MBB, AOW, Oneonta

Feb 06, 2017
(graduate student  guard  Brewster, NY)

Kelly recorded back-to-back double-doubles this past weekend in a pair of home SUNYAC wins. This past Friday he scored 18 points and dished out a career high 14 assists. Against Fredonia the next day, he scored 10 points while recording 12 assists. With his 26 assists over the two games, Kelly now has 507 career assists, which makes him only the second player in program history to eclipse the mark, the first in nearly 40 years. Kelly is currently third on the team in scoring averaging 10.6 points while leading the team and the SUNYAC in assists with 156.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2017, 05:56:45 PM
February 7th    One game on tap tonight in a non-conference matchup.

Potsdam State   at  SUNY-Canton  7:00 PM

The Bears travel to Canton to take on Coach Bechtel's former team in a game that will feature the players he now coaches against the players he recruited for the Kangaroos. The Bears would sure like to win this one for their coach but I'm afraid the more seasoned Kangaroos will be too much for the young Potsdam team to handle. The oddsmakers have made Canton a 12 point favorite in this one. That sounds about right. The Roos win this one by an 84-74 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2017, 09:38:33 PM
Canton defeats Potsdam State 86-62.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 08, 2017, 04:12:17 PM
Of course I had to make a graphic with the first regional rankings.   ;D
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2945/32666009631_05e2e2014e_h.jpg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2017, 06:24:22 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 08, 2017, 04:12:17 PM
Of course I had to make a graphic with the first regional rankings.   ;D
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2945/32666009631_05e2e2014e_h.jpg)

Of course you did.  Good job. plus K
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 08, 2017, 11:12:06 PM
So much easier just to go here: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/02/men-regional-rankings-first :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 08, 2017, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 08, 2017, 11:12:06 PM
So much easier just to go here: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/02/men-regional-rankings-first :)

I like my graphics...I only figured it out recently.  Fun stuff.   ;D  I'm sprinkling them here and on northeast boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2017, 12:24:10 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 08, 2017, 04:12:17 PM
Of course I had to make a graphic with the first regional rankings.   ;D
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2945/32666009631_05e2e2014e_h.jpg)

Of course !!!   Keep doing what you doing All Star.  We feel the love over here in the 'Yac!!  And this time of year "love" is hard to find!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 09, 2017, 12:32:34 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 08, 2017, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 08, 2017, 11:12:06 PM
So much easier just to go here: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/02/men-regional-rankings-first :)

I like my graphics...I only figured it out recently.  Fun stuff.   ;D  I'm sprinkling them here and on northeast boards.

Just having fun with ya. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 09, 2017, 01:33:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2017, 12:24:10 AM

Of course !!!   Keep doing what you doing All Star.  We feel the love over here in the 'Yac!!  And this time of year "love" is hard to find!

Thanks.  ;D  I'm certainly not trying to dominate the boards and post too many images, I'm only trying to provide pertinent information (mostly here and on the northeast boards, but who knows where I'll wander next).  If you have any recommendations for new images, let me know and I'll see what I can come up with!  I'm glad they are well-received.  I always thought you could only post text until I started fooling around.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 09, 2017, 07:39:15 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 09, 2017, 01:33:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2017, 12:24:10 AM

Of course !!!   Keep doing what you doing All Star.  We feel the love over here in the 'Yac!!  And this time of year "love" is hard to find!

Thanks.  ;D  I'm certainly not trying to dominate the boards and post too many images, I'm only trying to provide pertinent information (mostly here and on the northeast boards, but who knows where I'll wander next).  If you have any recommendations for new images, let me know and I'll see what I can come up with!  I'm glad they are well-received.  I always thought you could only post text until I started fooling around.

You're stealing my thunder man - ATN this week is a breakdown of all the conferences and what's left before conference tournament time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2017, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 09, 2017, 07:39:15 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 09, 2017, 01:33:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2017, 12:24:10 AM

Of course !!!   Keep doing what you doing All Star.  We feel the love over here in the 'Yac!!  And this time of year "love" is hard to find!

Thanks.  ;D  I'm certainly not trying to dominate the boards and post too many images, I'm only trying to provide pertinent information (mostly here and on the northeast boards, but who knows where I'll wander next).  If you have any recommendations for new images, let me know and I'll see what I can come up with!  I'm glad they are well-received.  I always thought you could only post text until I started fooling around.

You're stealing my thunder man - ATN this week is a breakdown of all the conferences and what's left before conference tournament time.

Ryan.... I can't find the conference breakdown story. Is it out yet??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 10, 2017, 07:40:01 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2017, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 09, 2017, 07:39:15 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 09, 2017, 01:33:57 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 09, 2017, 12:24:10 AM

Of course !!!   Keep doing what you doing All Star.  We feel the love over here in the 'Yac!!  And this time of year "love" is hard to find!

Thanks.  ;D  I'm certainly not trying to dominate the boards and post too many images, I'm only trying to provide pertinent information (mostly here and on the northeast boards, but who knows where I'll wander next).  If you have any recommendations for new images, let me know and I'll see what I can come up with!  I'm glad they are well-received.  I always thought you could only post text until I started fooling around.

You're stealing my thunder man - ATN this week is a breakdown of all the conferences and what's left before conference tournament time.

Ryan.... I can't find the conference breakdown story. Is it out yet??

Here it is:  http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-nation/2016-17/conference-races-down-the-stretch
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 10, 2017, 02:20:50 PM
It's getting to be CRUNCH time for a couple of teams this weekend.
The Buffalo State Bengals have a very tough weekend coming up.
Let's see if the team we all thought was going to win the SUNYAC comes to play against Cortland tonight and Oswego tomorrow.

I will get to the easy pick's first:
Brockport all over New Paltz
Macicmans' Cardinals still clinging to Life all over Potsdam
Oswego gearing up to win the SUNYAC all over Fredonia.

The Oneonta Red Dragons at home winning by double digits against Geneseo. I think Geneseo is still shell shocked over there loss to Oneonta at home a while back. I think that was the turning point for both teams that weekend. The Red Dragons under Coach Conover have been playing great and are looking to firm up 2nd or 3rd place in the seeding's.
McElroy, Coleman and Kelly have lead this team with their leadership and will be a team to reckon with come playoff time.
The Knights have been struggling of late and holding on to make the playoffs. Ringen is starting to play the way he did last season when he was one of the best scorers in the SUNYAC. And Decker is Decker a scoring machine, but they will need a little help for their role players if they are going to be a factor come playoff time.

The Featured game of the evening is Cortland at Buffalo State. Cortland has been playing great of late and they have numerous scoring options between Cooper, Morales and Joseph. The Bengals need to come up BIG tonight to hold onto 5th place in the standings. Smith, Henry, McLean and Grayer need to get it done at home. Look for the Bengals come up BIG tonight against the Red Dragons.

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 10, 2017, 02:22:54 PM
Hello to all my SUNYAC friends. I haven't been able to be on, but it looks like we are heading to an interesting end!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2017, 04:49:31 PM
Feb. 10     All 10 teams in action today in 5 conference games.


Short on time so just some quick picks tonight.
       

Geneseo State  at  Oneonta State   5:30 PM The featured game of the night.

Lots of different outcomes, affecting as many as 6 different teams, riding on this game tonight. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 5 point choice. I need Oneonta to win for my Cardinals to have hope.  Oneonta wins this one  89-85.



Oswego State  at  Fredonia State        5:30 PM

Oswego favored by just a 7 point spread. I think they win by more than that. Oswego 83 Fredonia 64.


Brockport State  at  New Paltz State   5:30 PM

The Golden Eagles need to take care of business to keep that first round bye. They are favored by 22 points. I don't think they will be challenged. Brockport won the last meeting by 52. This one will be closer but still a blowout. Brockport 92 New Paltz 61.


Cortland State  at  Buffalo State        5:30 PM

The Bengals need to win to stay ahead of the teams chasing them. Moving up to the 5th seed last week after Geneseo stumbled,  gives them some breathing room. They'll want to maintain that. Bengals are favored by 4 points and it will be close. Buffalo State wins this one 87-84.

   
Plattsburgh State  at  Potsdam State    5:30 PM

The Cardinals are on life support and cannot afford any more losses. The Bears can be pesky and hung will Plattsburgh for a while in their previous matchup. Cards favored by 14 points. I think they win by more. Plattsburgh 95 Potsdam 75.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2017, 05:23:10 PM
Biggest weekend of the season for my BENGALS.  IF WE Cant win this weekend then we just ain't championship material !

Go BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2017, 06:11:11 PM
Plattsburgh leads Potsdam at the half 54-34.

Jon Patron with a big first half has 22 points for Plattsburgh.  Isaiah Hill, Chris Middleton and Eli Bryant with a 3 pointer at the buzzer all have 7 points each.

Danny Delsol-Lowry has 11 points for the Bears. Jayquan Thomas has 8.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2017, 06:14:53 PM
Oneonta leads Geneseo46-42 at the break.

Mikey McElroy with 16 points for the Red Dragons. Kevin Mackin has 13.

Justin Ringen with a big first half for the Knights with 18 points and John Decker has 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2017, 06:17:57 PM
Oswego over Fredonia by a 36-29 score at the half.

Brian Sortino leads the Lakers with 17 points. Mykelle Krecko has 7 points and 8 rebounds.

Ian Helps has 11 points for the Blue Devils.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2017, 06:22:28 PM
Brockport in a battle with New Paltz as the Hawks are within 6 points and only trail the Golden Eagles by a 40-34 score at the half.

Devonn Gavin leads the Eagles with 10 points. Marcus Blythers has 8.

The Hawks Dylan Balducci leads all scorers with 14 points. Andrew Seniuk has 8 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2017, 06:27:15 PM
Buffalo State was up at the half 50-33. They now lead Cortland 55-41 with 16:17 left in the game.

Jordan Glover with 12 points for the Bengals. Mike Henry with 11 and Lovell Smith with 10.

Zach Lydon with 11 points for Cortland and Justin Cooper with 8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 10, 2017, 09:56:22 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2017, 10:38:43 PM
Brockport State 84 New Paltz State 70

The Hawks gave the Eagles a much tougher time than they did in their previous matchup. They lost that game by 52 points They were 38 points better tonight. That's a victory all by itself.

Hawks took the lead a few minutes into the game and led for most of the first half, several times by as much as 6 points. Brockport finally went in front with 4:44 to go when Devonn Gavin made a jumper. The Eagles stretched the lead to a 40-34 margin at the half.

Brockport scored the first 6 points of the 2nd period to go up by 12, but New Paltz didn't fold and fought back to within 5 points. Brockport then put together an 11-2 run to open up some daylight and the Hawks could never get within single digits the rest of the way.

Clifton Lyerly who didn't get the start tonight came off the bench and scored 19 points to lead the Golden Eagles. Hamed Shamseldin had 13 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals. Marcus Blythers had 12 points and a team high 7 rebounds. Devonn Gavin had 10 points and 3 steals.

The Hawks' Dylan Balducci captured scoring honors with 21 points and 4 assists. Andrew Seniuk had 19 points and 7 rebounds. Corey Garcia only scored 3 points, but led everyone with 9 rebounds and also had a game high 9 assists.

Brockport ups their overall record to 17-5 as they remain all alone in 2nd place with a 12-3 mark in the conference. They will visit Oneonta tomorrow for a 2:00 PM game in a battle for a first round bye.

The Hawks will try and gain a win in the YAC when they play Geneseo tomorrow at 2:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 12:31:57 AM
Buffalo State defeats Cortland State 78-70

The Bengals led almost the entire first half and established a sizable lead at 25-15 with 8:33 remaining in the period. The Bengals gradually built up that lead and when Lovell Smith hit back to back layups in the final 40 seconds of the half, Buffalo State had a 50-33 advantage at the break.

The Bengals scored first in the 2nd half to create their largest lead of the night at 19 points but the Red Dragons hung in there and slowly began to whittle that big lead down. Zach Lydon scored 10 straight points for the Red Dragons to keep his team in the game and his 12th point of the 2nd half cut the lead to 59-50 with 12:17 left to play. Cortland continued to close the gap and eventually got within a single possession at 69-66 on a Nicky Bonura 3 pointer with 5:23 left. The lead was 4 when the Bengals got a triple from Jordan Glover to stretch the lead to 7 with just under 3 minutes remaining. It was the dagger as the Red Dragons couldn't recover. They came up empty on their next three shots and had to foul allowing the Bengals to build the lead back to 9 points with just 38 seconds left.

Jordan Glover captured scoring honors as he had 19 points. He was 6x13 from the field and all 6 of his baskets were from long distance. He added 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.
Mike Henry had a double-double of 15 points and 10 rebounds. He had 3 steals and 1 helper.
Nico McLean had 12 points, 5 assists and 2 boards.
Lovell Smith had 11 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 blocks.
Dom Grayer and Rey Jordan came off the bench to score 10 and 8 points respectively.

Zach Lydon was the high man for the Red Dragons with 15 points. He just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds.
Justin Cooper did have a double-double with 10 points and 12 rebounds. He also had a game high 7 assists.
James Morales had 10 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.
Nicky Bonura had 10 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

The Bengals improved to 15-7 overall and 9-7 in the YAC. They firmed up a playoff spot with the win but haven't clinched one yet. They could do that on Saturday with a win over visiting Oswego State in a 2:00 PM start.

Cortland falls to 15-7 overall and 10-5 in the YAC. They still have sole possession of 4th place and will look to hold onto that seeding so they can get a first round home game in the playoffs. They will invade Fredonia on Saturday afternoon for a 2:00 PM start.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 01:47:31 AM
Fredonia State 76  Oswego State75

It looks like the Lakers got caught looking ahead to the Buffalo State game on Saturday. It is also reminiscent of at least 4 or 5 games this year that the Lakers have played down to the competition.

In fairness to the Blue Devils, they shot the ball well, 49.2% (32x65) and the rebounding battle, 34-32 in favor of Oswego, was also close.

Oswego led the entire first half and despite opening up 5 and 6 point leads they couldn't pull away and create daylight as they have done so many times this year. They led 36-29 at the break, which equaled their largest lead of the game. They were still up by 5 points with 14:42 left in the game after a Mykelle Krecko layup made the score 45-40. The Blue Devils were the ones that put together the big run as they erupted for a 15-3 burst that carried them to a 55-48 advantage. 6 of those points came from Nicc Johnson and after Oswego scored to cut the lead to 55-50, Fredonia scored 7 more unanswered points, 5 of those came from Johnson as well. The score was 62-50 and it was the largest lead of the game.

Oswego went to their go to guys as Brian Sortino with 10 points and Jamir Ferebee with 7, scored 17 of the next 21 Laker points. It brought them all the way back and into a 71-70 lead with 1:45 left in the game. The teams traded baskets down the stretch and the lead changed 6 times with the last one coming on a jumper by the Blue Devils' Dante Williams with 8 seconds left on the clock. Plenty of time for Oswego to hit the game winner and everyone in the house knew it would be Sortino. He drove to the hoop as the clock wound down but his layup wouldn't fall and Fredonia had pulled off the upset of the year in the SUNYAC.

Ian Helps led Fredonia with a double-double of 24 points and 10 rebounds.
Dante Williams had 17 points and 5 rebounds.
Nicc Johnson had 15 points and 6 rebounds.

The Lakers Brian Sortino led all scorers with 34 points. He added 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.
Mykelle Krecko had a double-double of 15 points and 14 rebounds with 2 blocks.
Jamir Ferebee had 9 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.

Fredonia improves to 10-13 overall and 7-9  in the conference. They will play Cortland on Saturday at 2:00 PM. The win over Oswego gives the Blue Devils a tiebreaker edge over both Plattsburgh and Geneseo should they tie for the 6th playoff spot.

Oswego falls to 17-5 overall and 13-2 in the YAC. They will visit the Queen City on Saturday for a 2:00 PM game against the Bengals.                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 01:48:37 AM
Oneonta State defeats Geneseo by a final score of 83-79.

The Knights grabbed the early lead and moved in front by as many as 6 points until Oneonta finally caught them with 9:09 left in the period on a jumper by Mikey McElroy to tie it at 23. The teams traded leads and then the Red Dragons went in front by as many as 7 points on their way to a 4 point, 46-42, halftime advantage.

Oneonta remained in control through the first part of the 2nd period and stretched their lead to 10 points on several occasions, the last time with 17 minutes left and the score at 56-46. Slowly the Knights crept closer until they finally tied the game at 62 each on a layup by Justin Ringen with 10:44 on the clock. From that point on the game was a dogfight and it was just a question of who would make the critical play in crunch time. 8 lead changes and 5 ties would take place over the 8:44 until the two minute warning arrived with the Red Dragons in front 76-75 on 2 free throws from McElroy.

Geneseo missed from long distance on their next possession and the Red Dragons came down and buried a threeball by Kevin Mackin to make it a 2 possession game with 1:10 to go. That was the big play and when Geneseo turned it over McElroy scored inside to make it a 6 point lead. Another turnover by the Knights and McElroy went to the line to make 1 of 2 free throws to make it a 7 point lead with 15 seconds left. and this one was history.

Mikey McElroy had 25 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists to lead Oneonta. Kevin Mackin had 22 points and a game high 7 rebounds. Lawrence Coleman had 18 points and also grabbed 7 boards.


Justin Ringen had a game high 27 points and tied for high with 7 boards. C.J. Burke had 13 points, 7 rebounds, 4 steals and 2 assists.  John Decker had 14 points.

Oneonta improves to 14-8 overall and 11-4 in the SUNYAC. They can still end up in first place or grab a first round bye. If they win out they would clinch 2nd place, but will need help to capture the top spot. They host Brockport tomorrow at 2:00 PM in a game that will go a long way in determining who will get a first round bye.

Geneseo falls to 12-10 overall and 7-8 in the YAC. They still occupy 6th place but Fredonia and Plattsburgh are in hot pursuit. The Knights take on New Paltz tomorrow at 2:00 PM and need to take care of business in that game. The Hawks gave Brockport a pretty good battle tonight.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 01:52:50 AM
Plattsburgh State defeats Potsdam State 99-78.

The Cardinals opened up a double digit lead 25-14 lead with 11:38 left in the first half and the Bears never threatened after that. Plattsburgh led by 20 at the break and by as much as 26 points in the 2nd half. Potsdam was never closer than 18 the entire 2nd period. 

Plattsburgh's Jon Patron with 36 points and 15 rebounds to capture game honors in both categories.
Brandon Johnson with 15 points and Eli Bryant with 14 points.


Danny Delsol-Lowry led the Bears with 13 points. Dante Langley and Nosa Onabor with 11 points each. Jayquan Thomas with 10.

Cards shot 50% from the field, 39.1% from long range (9x23) and were a perfect 12x12 from the line.

Plattsburgh improves to 7-9 in the conference and is now a half game behind Geneseo for the 6th and final playoff spot. The Knights lost to Oneonta tonight and fall to 7-8 with 3 games left.

Fredonia with a big upset of Oswego is now just a half game out of the final playoff spot and by virtue of their win over the Lakers now has the tiebreaker in their favor over Geneseo and Plattsburgh.

Tomorrow's games and the final weekend will be chaotic, to say the least. 8 teams still alive for 6 spots.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 11, 2017, 11:25:17 AM
Good luck to the Plattsburgh Cards as they take on #13 Middlebury!  If ever there was an opportunity for a conference to get a boost from a late season non conference win, then this is it!  I have always said that the Yac is at min a 3 bid league!  Let our conference win vs the cream of the crop from the NESCAC, and I'm preaching 4 teams from the Yac!

Go Cards!!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 11, 2017, 01:04:29 PM
Some Great games today

Let's start with the easy game, Geneseo all over New Paltz. Right now they are the 6th seed and need this win. Fredonia and Plattsburgh are right on their heels.

Fredonia over Cortland, Fredonia is smelling the playoffs and should use last nights upset win over Oswego to upset the Red Dragons. Plus they are playing at home and it's not exactly a good shooters gym.

Buffalo State over Oswego. I thought the Lakers were going to win the regular season but last nights loss opens the door for Brockport or Oneonta. Look for the Bengals to come out fast and furious.

The Red Dragons of Oneonta over Brockport. Brockport away from home is a different team and have shown they can be beat on the road. New Paltz gave them a run for their money last night. Look for the BIG 3 and a little home cooking for a BIG RED DRAGONS WIN to make things more interesting going into next weekend.

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 01:59:51 PM
Feb. 11 Eight teams in action with 4 conference games on tap   

Geneseo State  at  New Paltz State    2:00 PM

The Knights have lost 4 conference games in a row and 7 of their last 9. They went from a first place tie to hanging onto the 6th and final playoff spot. They get a break today with the last place team on tap but the Hawks are playing these last few like there's no tomorrow (Cause for them there ain't). The oddsmakers have made the Knights an 18 point favorite. I think the Hawks can cover that spread. Geneseo 86 New Paltz 71.


Oswego State  at  Buffalo State        2:00 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Lakers won the first meeting 71-70, on a Brian Sortino 3 pointer, with 12 seconds left in the game. The Bengals had a chance to react to that Sortino basket but missed two free throws with 1 second to go. They will be looking to atone for that loss today but the Lakers will try to hang onto sole possession of first place. The oddsmakers have made Buffalo State a 4 point favorite in this one. That seems about right. I think the Bengals pull one out here by an 82-79 final score.     

   
Cortland State  at  Fredonia State    2:00 PM

The Red Dragons can't afford a stumble here if they want a home playoff game. The Blue Devils, after their big win yesterday, can smell the playoffs, and the fans in Fredonia haven't been this excited since the discovery of sliced bread. The oddsmakers have made Cortland an 8 point favorite. I think they win by a bit more. Cortland takes this one 85-74.

Brockport State  at  Oneonta State     2:00 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

This is a huge game for both teams with a first round bye at stake and possibly the top seed in the tournament as well. Brockport won the first meeting on their home court, now these Red Dragons look for the reversal, to temporarily vault them into 2nd place, since they hold the tiebreaker over the Golden Eagles at the moment. I need Oneonta to beat Brockport so my Cardinals can hold the tiebreaker over Geneseo should that be necessary. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a slim 2 point favorite. I'm taking the Red Dragons who are firing on all cylinders right now. Final score Oneonta 88 Brockport 84.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 11, 2017, 11:25:17 AM
Good luck to the Plattsburgh Cards as they take on #13 Middlebury!  If ever there was an opportunity for a conference to get a boost from a late season non conference win, then this is it!  I have always said that the Yac is at min a 3 bid league!  Let our conference win vs the cream of the crop from the NESCAC, and I'm preaching 4 teams from the Yac!

Go Cards!!

Go BENGALS!!

Bengalsrule,
Thanks for the cheer in the Cardinals game with Middlebury. That game is scheduled to be played on Tuesday Feb. 14th at 5:30 in Plattsburgh. The Cardinals will be up against it, as Middlebury is one of the top teams in the NESCAC conference and may be the best of all of them. The NESCAC stands a good chance of getting 4 teams into the NCAA tournament. It's not out of the question that 5 teams could come out of that conference. Middlebury, Tufts, Amherst and Wesleyan all look to be in good shape for at large bids if they don't win the conference. Williams is still alive as well.

In the East Region the chances of the YAC getting more than 2 teams into the dance are slim. It was slim before yesterday but now that Rochester lost to Chicago and fell 2 games behind Washington University it looks like the automatic bid from the UAA conference will be going to Wash U. Remember there is no tournament in that conference so the regular season champion gets the bid. That means that Rochester, the #1 team in the East Region will surely get the first at large bid from the East. Skidmore won yesterday over Hobart which kept them in 1st place in the Liberty League. At the moment they will host the Liberty League tournament. St. Lawrence, should they lose the automatic bid to Skidmore, will be in line for an at large bid from the East. They will get the 2nd bid from the East Region. St John Fisher may not win the Empire 8 conference and if they don't, they will be in contention for an at large bid. With Oswego's loss last night to Fredonia, I believe St. John Fisher will move ahead of Oswego in the next Regional Rankings this coming Wednesday.  Even if they do get the automatic E8 bid, that will leave the SUNYAC with the 3rd at large bid from the East. I'll be surprised if the East Region gets any more than 3 at large bids. The Northeast region will get a bunch as will the Central region. The other regions will get their fair share. With 8 regions and only 21 at large bids (2 more than last year, I believe) the chances of the East Region getting 4 at large bids are slim and none. We may not even get 3.

I certainly hope I'm wrong and you're right, but the numbers game just doesn't work in our favor. Maybe...possibly...there is the slimmest, and I do mean slimmest, chance that if this scenario (or something similar takes place) that we might get a 3rd team into the Dance. If Brockport wins out and loses in the semifinal game they will finish 20-6. If Oswego wins 2 of their last three (they lose to Brockport in the final game of the regular season) and then loses in the championship game of the YAC tournament they will finish 20-7. A third team, say Oneonta or Buffalo State, wins the conference tournament and gets the automatic bid. Then we may get both Oswego and Brockport receiving at large bids, but there is no guarantee that, even then, those two teams will get in.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 03:08:40 PM
Updates:

Buffalo State leads Oswego State 55-50 with 9:23 left.

Oneonta leads Brockport 49-48 with 13:52 left.

Cortland leads Fredonia 62-51 with 7:48 left.

Geneseo leads New Paltz 62-48 with 7:41 left.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 05:05:14 PM
Oswego State defeats Buffalo State 69-68.

Controversy at the end of the game. Buffalo State was down 69-68 with 35 seconds to go and had the ball. They took a 3 point shot with 6 seconds left and the shot clock winding down. The ball appeared to hit the bottom of the rim and was rebounded by the Bengals' Jordan Chateau with 4.3 seconds left in the game. One of the refs blew his whistle and called a shot clock violation which didn't seem to be the case. And it was a late whistle. One of the other refs huddled with him but the call stood and Oswego got to take the ball out of bounds underneath the Bengals' basket. Bengals had to foul Brian Sortino who broke free and caught a long downcourt pass. He tried to dribble the clock out but was fouled with a second left. He missed the first free throw and looked at his bench for instruction on what to do for the 2nd free throw. Coach Leone gave him the "don't make it" sign and he intentionally missed it to tick off the final second and the Lakers won the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
Brockport State 89  Oneonta State 86

Another nail biter that came down to the final shot. Brockport was up by 3 points at 87-84 with 14 seconds left. Oneonta tried to get a good look at a 3 pointer to tie the game but the Golden Eagles defended the 3 point line and Harrison Deegan broke to the basket for a layup to bring them within a point but only left 3 seconds on the clock. Oneonta immediately fouled on the Brockport inbounds pass sending Hamed Shamseldin to the line. He made both free throws with 2.4 seconds on the clock. Oneonta tried a long pass downcourt that was knocked out of bounds by Brockport. That gave the Red Dragons 2 seconds to inbound the ball at halfcourt and attempt a 3 point shot for the tie. The ball came to Frankie Kelly who was under heavy pressure. He did manage to get a shot off that went in and out at the buzzer (I did hear him call the bank shot :D). Tough loss for the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 05:27:46 PM
Geneseo 82  New Paltz 57

The Knights were up early in this one and never threatened. The R&D show carried the day.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2017, 05:33:25 PM
Cortland 75  Fredonia 56

The Red Dragons were up early in this one and were never threatened. Zach Lydon again the high man for the day 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 11, 2017, 09:03:00 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2017, 12:27:03 PM
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Fan Dam Tastic. AllStar.  I know if at least 5 SUNYAC coaches that were waiting for your latest breakdown. You copyright guy this yet???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 13, 2017, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2017, 12:27:03 PM


Fan Dam Tastic. AllStar.  I know if at least 5 SUNYAC coaches that were waiting for your latest breakdown. You copyright guy this yet???

Nah.  Just trying to help out.  I'm glad they are useful here and appear to be on the Northeast Region boards too.   ;D
Another note...I doubt anybody will want to play your Bengals in the conference tournament.  I read magicman's recap of the recent game against Oswego and found it to be sad that the officials seemed to dictate the result of that game!  What makes it even worse is they seemed to get the call wrong.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 13, 2017, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 13, 2017, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2017, 12:27:03 PM


Fan Dam Tastic. AllStar.  I know if at least 5 SUNYAC coaches that were waiting for your latest breakdown. You copyright guy this yet???

Nah.  Just trying to help out.  I'm glad they are useful here and appear to be on the Northeast Region boards too.   ;D
Another note...I doubt anybody will want to play your Bengals in the conference tournament.  I read magicman's recap of the recent game against Oswego and found it to be sad that the officials seemed to dictate the result of that game!  What makes it even worse is they seemed to get the call wrong.

You and magicman hit it on the button. What's really sad is that the ref near mid court indicated that the ball hit the rim, and yet the ref underneath the basket missed it. I was the closest non player/ref to the rim . It hit rim then  backboard and then our guy, Jordan Chateau got the rebounds with 4 seconds left!  Only to be screwed!! Truth is ...we screwed our selves. Held Oswego to 26 points in the first half and then gave up 43 in the 2nd half!   Losing Jordan Glover hurt too (he will be back for Fredonia). frustrating but we still control our destiny.

Keep doing what you are doing. There's not a BENGALS coach that doesn't hasnt called me at least once this weekend, with questions about "what if this"... "what if that"..."who beat whom?"  etc.  I sound like a friggin genius ( as long as I have your info in front of me...oh yes, from my color printer no less  ;))!

Looks like your game vs ECSU weds is for all,  the Regular season, Marbles!!  Good luck!!

Plus K!!!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 13, 2017, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 13, 2017, 06:23:48 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 13, 2017, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2017, 12:27:03 PM


Fan Dam Tastic. AllStar.  I know if at least 5 SUNYAC coaches that were waiting for your latest breakdown. You copyright guy this yet???

Nah.  Just trying to help out.  I'm glad they are useful here and appear to be on the Northeast Region boards too.   ;D
Another note...I doubt anybody will want to play your Bengals in the conference tournament.  I read magicman's recap of the recent game against Oswego and found it to be sad that the officials seemed to dictate the result of that game!  What makes it even worse is they seemed to get the call wrong.

You and magicman hit it on the button. What's really sad is that the ref near mid court indicated that the ball hit the rim, and yet the ref underneath the basket missed it. I was the closest non player/ref to the rim . It hit rim then  backboard and then our guy, Jordan Chateau got the rebounds with 4 seconds left!  Only to be screwed!! Truth is ...we screwed our selves. Held Oswego to 26 points in the first half and then gave up 43 in the 2nd half!   Losing Jordan Glover hurt too (he will be back for Fredonia). frustrating but we still control our destiny.

Keep doing what you are doing. There's not a BENGALS coach that doesn't hasnt called me at least once this weekend, with questions about "what if this"... "what if that"..."who beat whom?"  etc.  I sound like a friggin genius ( as long as I have your info in front of me...oh yes, from my color printer no less  ;))!

Looks like your game vs ECSU weds is for all,  the Regular season, Marbles!!  Good luck!!

Plus K!!!

Go BENGALS!!!

It's serving its purpose then!   ;D  The SUNYAC tiebreakers appear to be the same as the Little East.  For two teams, you go with head-to-head results first.  If that doesn't break it, you go to record vs. common opponents in the order of their standing.  Usually that solves it...I don't know what it is beyond that, I'd have to do some research.  For three-team tiebreakers, to my knowledge, you go with head-to-head among the tied teams and eliminate one team with that.  After getting one team out of the tie, you revert back to head-to-head with the two teams that are still tied and, again, if that doesn't solve it, you go to record vs. common opponents in the order of the standings.  I haven't gotten as far as four-team yet, but I would think it would be similar.

No question it is huge game against Eastern Connecticut.  Given the Warriors' 96-70 loss at UMass-Dartmouth, three teams are now tied at 9-3.  I do know that Keene controls their own destiny if they win this week.  I'm not very optimistic given some of the performances I've seen recently, but maybe they are saving a good one for Wednesday???  I'm hoping to be very surprised.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2017, 04:45:17 AM
Hamed Shamseldin from Brockport State was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Here's the write up from the YAC website.

Hamed Shamseldin, MBB, Brockport

Feb 13, 2017
(Jr, G - Lawrence, N.Y.)
The Golden Eagles picked up a pair of wins in SUNYAC play, aided in large part by Hamed Shamseldin. The junior averaged 16.5 points, 5.5 rebounds, four assists, 1.5 steals and averaged 30 minutes of play. The Golden Eagles opened their weekend at New Paltz, where the Lawrence native posted 13 points, five rebounds, four assists and two steals in just 25 minutes. In a key win over Oneonta, Shamseldin stepped up to the challenge, turning in 18 of his 20 points in the second half, including a bucket that would put the Golden Eagles up for good with 16 seconds to play. The 6-0 guard added six boards, four assists, and one steal in the win.

Congratulations to Hamed for a big weekend. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2017, 06:36:36 AM
Feb 14th 
One game on tap today as the 10th ranked team in the country travels to Plattsburgh for a 5:30 PM tip off time.

#10 Middlebury College at Plattsburgh State

The Panthers and Cardinals have put on some good shows over the years but the last couple of years have been one sided affairs. Three years ago the Cardinals beat the Panthers in Middlebury 63-47, one of their worst defeats of the season. Last year Middlebury returned the favor, dropping Plattsburgh by a 71-49 score, the 2nd worst loss that the Cardinals had in a 21-6 season. In between the Panthers won a 63-53 game in Plattsburgh.

Midd comes into this game with a 20-3 record and tied Tufts for the best record in the NESCAC with an 8-2 league mark. Tufts beat them head to head to claim the top seed in the upcoming NESCAC tournament that starts this Saturday. The Panthers will, in all likelihood, get an at large bid to the NCAA tournament, should they fail to win the league's automatic bid. Last year the Panthers won the league championship after entering the tournament as the 4th seed. They won a first round game and in their bid to make the Sweet 16 came up just short when they lost to Keens State 74-72.

They are led by their 3 guards, senior Matt St. Amour, senior Jake Brown, and junior Jack Daley. St. Amour is a leading candidate for the NESCAC Player of the Year and after his 31 points against Amherst last Friday and 28 points against Trinity last Saturday many followers of the conference think he locked up the award. St Amour is a fairly local product hailing from Swanton, Vermont. He's an outstanding shooter (20x34 from the field, 10x17 from long range, 9x10 ft, last weekend) and works hard to get open for his shot. Together with Brown and Daley, they are a threesome that provides solid defense and  will be tough to defend against. The Panthers have 3 big men that can rebound well and run the floor, so important to their fast paced style of play. Brown injured his ankle last Friday against Amherst and tried to go on Saturday against Trinity but couldn't. He may not play much or at all tonight with the playoff game on Saturday the focus of the coaching staff.

Plattsburgh also has big games this weekend. For the Cardinals it's do or die time, and even if they do, they may die. Two league games remain and Plattsburgh has to win them both and hope Geneseo or Buffalo State loses their games. Tough when you don't control your own destiny. The Knights and the Bengals have no such worries. Win and their in. The SUNYAC was so competitive this year that any one of the 6 teams making the playoffs could win the title.

These teams have 4 common opponents this year. They both had home games against New Paltz  and both beat the Hawks by a large margin, over 30 points. They both had home games against RPI and beat the Engineers. Plattsburgh won be 19, the Panthers won by 7. Liberty League leader, Skidmore, visited both teams, losing to Middlebury by a 72-71 score, while the Cardinals beat the Thoroughbreds 86-78. The Panthers hosted Trinity last Saturday and beat the Bantams handily 97-80. Plattsburgh traveled to play Trinity back in January on their first game back from Christmas vacation. The Bantams pounded them 107-80. Playing Trinity in Hartford after 3 weeks off, while the Bantams had 2 games just prior to the Plattsburgh game, is a recipe for a pounding so I'm throwing that game out. ;)   

The oddsmakers have made the Panthers a solid 10 point favorite in this contest. I think they probably have the horses to win the game but I think the Cardinals can keep it a bit closer than the 10 point spread. I'm hoping, of course, for an upset, that may send my guys into the weekend with a bit of a swagger. But I can't pick them to win. I see the Panthers winning this one by an 87-82 final score....but I sure hope I'm wrong.       

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 14, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
I haven't done the leg work on the tiebreaker on common opponents between Oswego and Brockport, so if Brockport wins both games this weekend, and Oswego goes 1-1 (with the 1 being to Brockport), who gets the #1 seed?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 14, 2017, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 14, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
I haven't done the leg work on the tiebreaker on common opponents between Oswego and Brockport, so if Brockport wins both games this weekend, and Oswego goes 1-1 (with the 1 being to Brockport), who gets the #1 seed?

Given the scenario you mention, I believe who would be in first comes down to who finishes third, believe it or not.  If the scenario you mentioned happens and Oneonta finishes third, Brockport would finish first because they swept Oneonta and Oswego split.  However, if Cortland finishes third, Oswego would finish first in that scenario because they swept Cortland and Brockport, even with a win over them this weekend, can only split at best.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 14, 2017, 01:59:09 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 14, 2017, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 14, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
I haven't done the leg work on the tiebreaker on common opponents between Oswego and Brockport, so if Brockport wins both games this weekend, and Oswego goes 1-1 (with the 1 being to Brockport), who gets the #1 seed?

Given the scenario you mention, I believe who would be in first comes down to who finishes third, believe it or not.  If the scenario you mentioned happens and Oneonta finishes third, Brockport would finish first because they swept Oneonta and Oswego split.  However, if Cortland finishes third, Oswego would finish first in that scenario because they swept Cortland and Brockport, even with a win over them this weekend, can only split at best.

Thanks, Allstar. I appreciate it! +k

With Brockport being "on the bubble but out" in projections over on the pool C page, they can't leave it up to an at large bid.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Knight Slappys  Basketball Efficiency Ratings.  Similar to Div 1 Kenpom ratings. Makes for some interesting reading!

http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-efficiency-ratings/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2017, 02:16:41 AM
Middlebury 91  Plattsburgh State 70

This was a ballgame for the first half and part of the 2nd. Plattsburgh had an early 8-3 lead and that was their highlight of the game. Middlebury went ahead with an 18-1 run fueled by 7 points from Jack Daley and back to back 3 pointers from bench player, Liam Naughton. The Panthers never trailed again. The Cardinals fought back  and narrowed the gap to 26-21 but couldn't get any closer and went into the break down 39-33.

The teams traded baskets to start the 2nd period and the margin was still 6 points at 48-42 after 3 minutes had elapsed. That was when Panthers seized control of the game with a 21-7 explosion that gave them a 20 point lead at 69-49 with 11:32 left to play. 9 of those points came from Matt St. Amour who poured in 30 points for Middlebury. Their other guard, Jack Daley, had 4 points and 4 assists during that run. Daley ended up with 13 assists, more than the entire Plattsburgh team. The Panthers 3rd starting guard and 2nd leading scorer, Jake Brown, didn't play in the game as he was recovering from a rolled ankle injury suffered last weekend. Middlebury didn't need him as the combination of Daley and St. Amour along with 4 capable big men proved to be more than the Cardinals could handle. The Panthers got 12 points and 4 rebounds from two back-up guards and that's about what Jake Brown averages per game. The Panthers pushed their lead to as much as 28 points at 87-59 with 4:31 left to play as both coaches emptied their benches.

The Panthers
Matt St. Amour showed why he may very well be the NESCAC Player of the Year. The Cardinals had no answer for him as he alternately scored layups on drives to the hoop or drained 3 pointers. He was 11x15 from the field. 6 layups and 5x7 from downtown. He also had 5 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. 

Jack Daley had a double-double with 15 points (6x9 fg, 0x2 3's, 3x3 ft) and 13 assists. He added 4 rebounds and 3 steals.

Adisa Majors had 17 points (5x9 fg, 7x9 ft), 5 rebounds and 2 assists in 24 minutes off the bench.

Nick Tarantino just missed a double-double with 9 points (4x6 fg, 0x1 3's, 1x2 ft)and a game high 11 rebounds.

The Cardinals
Jon Patron led the the team in scoring with 16 points (7x14 fg, 0x2 3's, 2x4 ft). He also grabbed 7 rebounds.

Chris Middleton had 12 points (5x9 fg, 1x3 3's, 1x2 ft) and a team high 8 boards. He added 3 asists and 2 blocks.

Brandon Johnson had 9 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals off the bench.

Owen Mitchell added 7 points and 2 rebounds off the bench.


Middlebury improves to 21-3 and completes their regular season. They return to the hardwood for the first round of the NESCAC tournament when they host the #7 seed, Bates, this Saturday afternoon at 2:00 PM  in Pepin Gym.

Plattsburgh falls to 11-12 overall and 7-9 in conference play. They are still alive for a playoff spot but are in a must win situation this weekend on the road against New Paltz and Oneonta. The Hawks are up first on Friday at 5:30 PM.
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2017, 12:15:48 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 14, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Knight Slappys  Basketball Efficiency Ratings.  Similar to Div 1 Kenpom ratings. Makes for some interesting reading!

http://detroitjockcity.com/division-iii-mens-basketball-efficiency-ratings/

Well he is actually showing you the NCAA SOS which he has been able to math-out exactly like the NCAA does... so you have real SOS numbers, not once-a-week versions. He does add in his own RPI and bases his order on that (he notes he doesn't use the other criteria).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 17, 2017, 02:09:18 PM
After all the Craziness this season, I'm sure this weekend won't disappoint.
We have a battle for 1st place between Oswego and Brockport. They face off on Saturday which should determine who hosts the SUNYAC Championship.

We have Geneseo hanging on for dear life and Plattsburgh still breathing barely to make the playoffs.

Brockport over Cortland at home. Brockport would love to host this seasons SUNYAC Championship where they are very tough to beat.

Oswego over Geneseo, which would make Geneseo's game against Cortland tomorrow a must win.

Magicman's Cardinals all over New Paltz as the Cardinals need to sweep this weekend to maybe get in.

The Oneonta Red Dragons all over Potsdam as Frankie Kelly needs 14 points to get to 1000. Look for Frankie to have a big game as well as McElroy and Coleman to secure up 3rd place in the standings.  Good Luck to Frankie tonight.
I will give a shout out to Coach Medici as he recruited some great ball players the past 6 years as 4 of his players reached 1000 points or more. Zach Mager, Mike McElroy, Lawrence Coleman and Frankie Kelly. 

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 05:13:13 PM
Feb. 17  4 games on the schedule today in the final regular season weekend. Every one has important conference ramifications.    

Cortland State  at  Brockport State        5:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

Both teams need a win here desperately. Cortland will host a first round game but they could even end up in 2nd place and get a first round bye, with a weekend sweep. They would need a little help for that to happen. Brockport is still hoping to win the top seed with their big match up tomorrow against Oswego a possible regular season title decider. Brockport can't look ahead to that game or the Red Dragons will make them pay. Cortland always plays the Golden Eagles tough and has won the last 3 games against them.

The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 5 point favorite in this one. I also think they win a close game at home, where they've been tough to beat all year, going 8-0 on the season. Brockport 83 Cortland 80.   

   
Potsdam State at  Oneonta State                5:30 PM

Oneonta will host a first round game. They can't finish higher than 3rd place or worse than 4th. It's just a question of who they will face in that opening game. The Bears aren't just playing out the string. They want to win one of these last two games which will make them and their coach feel good going into the off season.

The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a heavy 27 point favorite. I think Potsdam will cover the spread but still lose by a final score of 94-72.



   
Plattsburgh State  at  New Paltz State        5:30 PM

Plattsburgh can't afford to look past the Hawks to the big game coming up tomorrow against Oneonta. They need to win both games and get some help to have a chance at the 6th and final seed. They need to focus on today's game or tomorrow won't matter. The Hawks are winless in the conference and will treat this weekend like their playoffs. The Cardinals beat them handily in Plattsburgh and the oddsmakers have made them a 15 point favorite in this game. I think they win by a few more. Plattsburgh 90 New Paltz 66.


Oswego State  at  Geneseo State                 5:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Lakers could lose today's game and if they win tomorrow against Brockport would still claim the top seed. So they don't have the pressure on them, today, that the Golden Eagles have this evening, against Cortland. I certainly hope that Oswego isn't looking past the Knights and thinking about Brockport. I need the Lakers to beat Geneseo, so you know where my rooting interests lie.

The Knights could also lose this game and still make the playoffs with a win tomorrow or a Plattsburgh loss. The oddsmakers have even made the Knights a 3 point home favorite over the Lakers. I'll take Oswego to win this one by an 82-78 final score.



Edit at 7:27:  Several things became clearer with Brockport's loss to Cortland.   
      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 06:08:53 PM
New Paltz 46 Plattsburgh 39 at the half.

Wouldn't want to be inside the Plattsburgh State locker room right now. Plattsburgh looking like the last place team in this one. 7 turnovers, some of them with a downright lackadaisical effort, that led to 12 New Paltz points.

New Paltz 7 of 10 from downtown. Dylan Balducci with 12 points(3x3 from distance) and Andrew Seniuk with 10 points (2x2 from distance) to lead the Hawks. Nick Paquette with 8 points (2x3 from distance).

Jon Patron with 13 points for Plattsburgh. Eli Bryant with 9 points (3x4 from long range)

Plattsburgh outrebounding the Hawks 25-13 and still losing.  Hawks with only 2 turnovers. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
Oswego leads Geneseo 35-34 at the half.

Brian Sortino with 13 points to lead the Lakers. Keith Tyson with 9 and Ian Schupp with 7.

John Decker and Kevin Crockett  both have 8 points for the Knights. Justin Ringen and Tommy Eastman both have 7 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 06:21:25 PM
Oneonta doubling up Potsdam at the half 54-27.

Lawrence Coleman with 14 points for Oneonta. Dwayne Freeman with 13.

Dante Langley with 12 points to lead the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 06:24:07 PM
Brockport leads Cortland 44-37 at the half.

The usual supects, Hamed Shamseldin with 13 and Clifton Lyerly with 10, lead the Golden Eagles.

Zach Lydon with 8 points leads Cortland.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 07:21:34 PM
Plattsburgh defeats New Paltz  80-78.

Oswego defeats Geneseo 80-75.

Both games came down to the final seconds. Not sure my heart can take any more of this. I may have to retire from the SUNYAC because of health issues. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on February 17, 2017, 07:56:47 PM
magicman, nobody's buying that. 
You couldn't stand not to be there for your D3 hoops brethren.
Thankfully.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 09:20:34 PM
So here we go with all the different scenarios. I think I'm right on these but if someone sees a mistake please speak up.

Oswego has clinched 1st place in the conference and will host the semifinals and finals of the SUNYAC tournament.

Brockport can come in 2nd place with a win or if Cortland and Oneonta both lose. If they lose and Cortland wins, then Cortland owns the tiebreaker over the Golden Eagles and they would come in 2nd, dropping Brockport into 3rd. Brockport owns the tiebreaker over Oneonta and they would remain ahead of them if they  are tied.   

Cortland can still come in 2nd place with a win tomorrow, an Oneonta loss and a Brockport loss. They would be 13-5 Oneonta would be 12-6 and Brockport would be 13-5 but 2 losses to Cortland would eliminate them from 2nd place.

I believe Oneonta could move into 2nd place, which I didn't spot earlier today when I did my picks, because they had lost twice to Brockport. However, tomorrow, if Oneonta wins, Cortland wins, and Brockport loses, they will all end up with 13-5 records. In that case because Brockport has beaten Oneonta twice, Cortland has beaten Brockport twice, and Oneonta has beaten Cortland twice, the tiebreaker would start with the top team and work down. Only Oneonta would have a win over Oswego so those Red Dragons would end up in 2nd place....I think.
Then Cortland would come in 3rd place on the basis of their two wins over Brockport.

Buffalo State has clinched a playoff bid but if they lose to Fredonia tomorrow it will depend on what place the above teams end up to determine if they will finish in 5th or 6th place. It will also depend on who the other team below them will be that qualifies for the playoffs.

If Geneseo wins tomorrow they will clinch the 6th seed, if Buffalo State wins and Plattsburgh State loses. They will also clinch the 6th seed if Plattsburgh wins and ties them at 9-9 as long as Cortland or Brockport finish higher than Oneonta. That same scenario takes place if both Geneseo and Plattsburgh lose tomorrow. They would both end up 8-10 and the Knights win the tiebreaker over the Cards with a Cortland or Brockport finish above Oneonta. However if Geneseo and Plattsburgh both lose and Fredonia defeats Buffalo State, all 3 teams would end up 8-10 (Buff State would be 9-9) and Fredonia would clinch the 6th seed by virtue of their win over Oswego State. If Buffalo State and Plattsburgh State lose, Geneseo can get the 5th seed if they beat Cortland and Brockport finishes in front of Oneonta  because they have a win over Brockport and the Bengals do not.  They also get the 5th seed if Cortland finishes ahead of Brockport. If Oneonta finishes in front of Brockport then the Bengals will get the 5th seed since they beat Oneonta and Geneseo was swept by those Red Dragons. Neither Buffalo State or Geneseo own a win over Oswego.

Plattsburgh State can get the 6th seed if they win tomorrow and Geneseo loses. They will be 9-9 and the Knights will be 8-10. The Cardinals can also get the 6th seed if they win and Geneseo also wins as they would both be 9-9, but the Cardinals would need Oneonta to finish higher than Brockport and Cortland. Plattsburgh would have at least 1 win over Oneonta (2 if they win tomorrow) while the Knights were swept by Oneonta. Plattsburgh can also get the 6th seed with a loss, if Geneseo and Fredonia lose and Oneonta ends up higher than Brockport and Cortland. There is no scenario where the Cardinals can claim the 5th seed even if they tie Buffalo State at 9-9 because the Bengals will still have the tiebreaker over them.

As mentioned above Fredonia gets the 6th seed with a win over Bufalo State and losses by Geneseo and Plattsburgh.


I think that covers all the scenarios but after I post this I'll probably discover I missed something. ::) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 17, 2017, 09:29:08 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 17, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
magicman did a tremendous job outlining the scenarios above!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 10:38:58 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 17, 2017, 09:47:12 PM
magicman did a tremendous job outlining the scenarios above!

Thanks AllStar,

It's not as pretty as your graphics but I think I covered all the possibilities. And there are so many. :o

What's funny (on 2nd thought it's sad) is that my Cardinals could win and not be in. Yet they could lose and  claim the 6th seed. Never thought that would be the case back on November 15th, or December 15th. :P 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 17, 2017, 11:18:26 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 17, 2017, 09:20:34 PM
So here we go with all the different scenarios. I think I'm right on these but if someone sees a mistake please speak up.




Buffalo State has clinched a playoff bid but if they lose to Fredonia tomorrow it will depend on what place the above teams end up to determine if they will finish in 5th or 6th place. It will also depend on who the other team below them will be that qualifies for the playoffs.

If Geneseo wins tomorrow they will clinch the 6th seed, if Buffalo State wins and Plattsburgh State loses. They will also clinch the 6th seed if Plattsburgh wins and ties them at 9-9 as long as Cortland or Brockport finish higher than Oneonta. That same scenario takes place if both Geneseo and Plattsburgh lose tomorrow. They would both end up 8-10 and the Knights win the tiebreaker over the Cards with a Cortland or Brockport finish above Oneonta. However if Geneseo and Plattsburgh both lose and Fredonia defeats Buffalo State, all 3 teams would end up 8-10 (Buff State would be 9-9) and Fredonia would clinch the 6th seed by virtue of their win over Oswego State. If Buffalo State and Plattsburgh State lose, Geneseo can get the 5th seed if they beat Cortland and Brockport finishes in front of Oneonta  because they have a win over Brockport and the Bengals do not.  They also get the 5th seed if Cortland finishes ahead of Brockport. If Oneonta finishes in front of Brockport then the Bengals will get the 5th seed since they beat Oneonta and Geneseo was swept by those Red Dragons. Neither Buffalo State or Geneseo own a win over Oswego.

Plattsburgh State can get the 6th seed if they win tomorrow and Geneseo loses. They will be 9-9 and the Knights will be 8-10. The Cardinals can also get the 6th seed if they win and Geneseo also wins as they would both be 9-9, but the Cardinals would need Oneonta to finish higher than Brockport and Cortland. Plattsburgh would have at least 1 win over Oneonta (2 if they win tomorrow) while the Knights were swept by Oneonta. Plattsburgh can also get the 6th seed with a loss, if Geneseo and Fredonia lose and Oneonta ends up higher than Brockport and Cortland. There is no scenario where the Cardinals can claim the 5th seed even if they tie Buffalo State at 9-9 because the Bengals will still have the tiebreaker over them.

As mentioned above Fredonia gets the 6th seed with a win over Bufalo State and losses by Geneseo and Plattsburgh.


I think that covers all the scenarios but after I post this I'll probably discover I missed something. ::)


OOOwwweee. Beware of the magicman bearing gifts!  1st of all the SUNYAC site tonight   http://sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/index   indicates that only 4 teams have clinched ( and BUFFALO STATE aint listed as 1 of the 4 listed). Probably because they, SUNYAC realize that the BENGALS  HAVENT CLINCHED SQUAT YET!!!!. Tomorrow, if Geneseo beats Cortland, Fredonia beats BUFFALO STATE, Brockport beats Oswego  and Plattsburgh beats Oneonta, then  Oswego is 1st at 15-3, then Brockport at 14-4, then Oneonta at 12-6, Cortland at 12-6 and Geneseo, Plattsburgh and BUFFALO STATE would be  tied at 9-9. 1st tiebreaker...head to head. Plattsburgh split with Buffalo state...Buffalo state split with Geneseo and Geneseo split with Plattsburgh.  Soooooo that's a wash.  So how did everyone do against #1 Oswego??  All 3 got swept by the Lakers!. Hmmm How did all 3 do against Brockport?  GENESEO beat Brockport and both BUFFALO STATE and Plattsburgh got swept. SOOOO Geneseo gets the 5th spot.  Next team would be Oneonta (because they swept Cortland they would get the 3rd seed) How did both teams left (BUFFALO STATE  and Plattsburgh) do vs Oneonta. Well for Plattsburgh to be 9-9 they would have had to sweep Oneonta. BUFFALO STATE  split with Oneonta! Thereby eliminating BUFFALO STATE FROM THE SUNYAC playoffs! So BUFFALO STATE HAS N O T clinched a playoff spot and hopefully none of their players/fans believe that they have because that would really give a false sense of security , the night before the biggest game of their season. I know magicman didn't intentionally give out that mis-information, but trust me...I don't need anyone who is a BENGAL supporter , thinking  FOR 1 MINUTE, that we have a spot clinched. Because we don't!

Gets some rest BENGALS. Your 1st playoff game start in less than 16 hours!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2017, 11:43:03 PM
Well, I did say I probably overlooked something. Never saw that one, I guess because I was looking at all the ways we needed to have things happen, to get by Geneseo. So now the Cardinals have one more way they can get into the playoffs. They need every chance they can get. I don't see the Bengals losing tomorrow. That's another reason I didn't see that scenario I guess.

At least I was right on the ones I posted. :D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 09:09:33 AM
Friday Night Wrap Up

Oswego State 80 Geneseo State 75

I had this one as an Oswego win by an 82-78 final. Didn't miss it by much.

The Lakers led from start to finish but had to fend off the Knights who came back from a 15 point deficit with 10:27 left in the game. Down 61-46 they got within 5 points at 70-65  with 2:54 remaining. Kevin Crockett hit a 3 pointer with 47 seconds left to make it a 1 possession game at 76-73. The Lakers missed on their end with 20 seconds left but Tyler Pierre got the key offensive rebound of the night and Geneseo had to foul him. Pierre made both foul shots and Geneseo then missed a 3 point attempt. The Lakers were fouled again and made another pair with only 11 seconds left. The Knights' John Decker made a layup with 3 seconds left to account for the final points.

Brian Sortino led Oswego with 21 points and 5 assists. That was the high point total for the night and was equaled by:
Keith Tyson who had 21 points and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds.
Ian Schupp had 15 points and 6 rebounds.
Tyler Pierre had 12 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists.
Jamir Ferebee had 10 point, 7 rebounds, and 4 assists.

Geneseo got a team high 20 points from John Decker. He also had 5 rebounds and 3 assists.
CJ Burke had a double-double with 15 points and a game high 10 rebounds.
Justin Ringen had 14 points and 7 rebounds.
Kevin Crockett had 13 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists.

The Lakers clinch the top seed in the SUNYAC by winning the regular season title. They improve to 15-2 in the conference and 19-5 overall. They will travel over to Brockport for a Saturday afternoon game starting at 2:00 PM.

Geneseo falls to 13-11 overall and 8-9 in the YAC. They will host Cortland tomorrow and hope to clinch the 5th or 6th seed in the playoffs.


Oneonta State 93  Potsdam State 63

I just missed the Red Dragons total as I had this one 94-72. The Bears came up short of my expectations.

The Red Dragons had a double digit lead in this one before the game was 4 minutes old as they were up 13-2 at the 16:25 mark. They increased their lead to 21-7 on a Dwayne Freeman 3 pointer, his 3rd one of the half and continued to get scoring from all the starters as Frankie Kelly drained one from long range to make it 28-10 with 11:47 still left in the period. Up 54-27 at the break the Red Dragons were up by as much as 33 points   as the outcome of this game was never in doubt.

Frankie Kelly reached a milestone with his 1000th career point. He needed 14 points tonight to get that honor and ended up with 15 points and a double-double as he had 11 assists. He added 4 rebounds and 2 steals.
Lawrence Coleman captured scoring honors with 20 points and 5 rebounds.
Dwayne Freeman and Kevin Mackin both had 13 points
Mikey McElroy had 11 points.
Ian Schultz had 8 points and tied for the game high with 6 rebounds.

Potsdam got 17 points and 5 rebounds from Dante Langley.
Thomas jayquan had 15 point, 3 steals and 2 assists.
Danny Delsol-Lowry had 10 points, 6 rebounds and 4 steals.
Kristoff Sanders also tied the game high with 6 rebounds, along with 5 points, 2 steals and a block.

Oneonta improves to 15-9 overall and 12-5 in the SUNYAC, good for 3rd place. They will host Plattsburgh State on Saturday at 2:00 PM.

Potsdam is now 2-22 overall and 1-16 in the conference. They will travel to New Paltz to take on the Hawks in a battle to see who will end up at the bottom of the standings.


Cortland State 79  Brockport State 74

I had this one as an 83-80 Brockport win. Just missed Cortland's total by a point, but the Golden Eagles had an off night shooting the rock from long range. That and a missed free throw near the end proved costly.

The teams played a close first half with 6 ties and 8 lead changes that ultimately found the Golden Eagles with a 44-37 halftime edge. Earlier in the period Brockport had opened up a 10 point, 24-14 lead and threatened to  break the game open but Cortland responded with a 13-2 run that brought thrm into the lead at 27-26 with 8 minutes left to play.  Down 34-32 with 3:31 to go in the period, it was Brockport's turn as they ended the half on a 12-3 run to take control heading into the break, up by 7.

Down by 9 points early in the 2nd half, the Red dragons managed to whittle it down to a single possession on a Justin Cooper 3 pointer with 15:27 to go. Four minutes later a Justin Prendergast layup tied the score at 56 and after several misses and turnovers on both ends, another Predengast layup gave the Red Dragons the lead at 58-56 with 9:28 to go.  Cortland extended the lead to 60-56 but the Golden Eagles countered with a 13-2 run that carried them into a 69-62 advantage with 4:22 left to play.  It seemed to be the definitive move but the Red Dragons went bombs away with 3 pointers by James Morales and Brendan Fitzpatrick. Cooper and Michael Kelly followed with jumpers and Cortland had a 10-2 run that brought them in front at 72-71 with 1:06 to go. Brockport's Clifton Lyerly was fouled and he made both free throws to put Port back in front, but Morales had the dagger with another shot from the top of the arc to put Cortland back on top by 2 points with 30 ticks left. Lyerly was fouled as he drove the lane and the basket was waved off sending him to the line for a pair. He was a perfect 7 for 7 on the night but missed the first one and made the 2nd. With only 25 seconds left Brockport fouled and Isaiah Cotton made them both  to make it a 3 point lead. Brockport came down and missed on a drive to the hoop and fouled again. Cortland's Cooper made another pair for the final points of the game.

Zach Lydon was the high man for Cortland with 16 points and he got his double-double with 11 rebounds.
Justin Cooper had 16 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists.
James Morales had 15 points, 6 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.
Michael Kelly had 10 points and 3 rebounds.
Justin Prendergast had 7 points and 7 rebounds. in 24 minutes off the bench.
Isaiah Cotton had 9 points 2 rebounds and 2 steals in 15 minutes off the bench.
Brendan Fitzpatrick had 6 points with 2 timely 3 pointers off the bench.

Brockport's reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week, Hamed Shamseldin captured scoring honors with 24 points.He also had 7 rebounds 2 assists and 2 steals.
Clifton Lyerly had a double-double with 18 points and a game high 13 rebounds. He added 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.
Marcus Blythers had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks and a steal.
Justin Summers had 9 points 3 rebounds and a block.
Matthew Smith had 6 assists, 4 points, 2 rebounds, and a steal.

Cortland improves to 17-7 overall and 12-5 in the conference. They are tied with Oneonta for 3rd place but lose the tiebreaker against those Red Dragons. They will travel to Geneseo for a Saturday afternoon game at 2:00 PM.

Brockport's hopes for the top seed and host of the SUNYAC tournament fell by the wayside because they can't catch Oswego even if they beat the Lakers in tomorrow's match up. They are now 13-4 in the YAC and 18-6 overall. They can still get a first round bye with a win tomorrow. If they lose they would need a loss by Oneonta and Cortland to still claim the 2nd seed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 01:22:22 PM
Plattsburgh State 80  New Paltz State 78

I had the Cardinals winning this by a 90-66 margin. I'm lucky they won.

The Cardinals opened the game with 7 straight points and probably figured they were just taking up where they left off the last time these two teams were on a court together. The Hawks had a different idea and came back to  make it a one possession game on a pair of 3 pointers. Plattsburgh opened up a 5 point lead on several occasions and grabbed their biggest lead of the first half at 26-19 with 8:20 left to play. Normally this would be the moment when the Hawks would fall further behind and a single digit lead would become 20 points by the break. But the Hawks exploded for 12 unanswered points to take a 31-26 lead that was fueled by a pair of Dylan Balducci 3 pointers and 2 layups by Brandon Tolliver. The Cardinals were stunned, because this wasn't the script but the Hawks had found a new writer and the plot thickened. Nick Paquette drained a 3 pointer, the Hawks were up by 8, and they were the ones on the verge of a double digit lead. The Cardinals   managed to stay with them and 3 straight inside moves by Jon Patron cut the gap to a single possession, but the Hawks outscored the Cardinals 6-2 in the final 2 minutes and went into the locker room up by 7 at 46-39.

New Paltz scored first to start the half and had a 9 point lead. Patron scored inside again but the Hawks answered that score and when the Cards Isaiah Hill buried a threeball, Tolliver did the same for the Hawks. The lead was still 9 points when Patron got hot once again. He made a jumper, then scored inside and after Plattsburgh's Zack Coleman scored on a drive Patron showed his range by hitting one from downtown. The Cardinals came storming back and outscored the Hawks 17-3 over the next 6 minutes to take a 61-56 lead with 10:46 left to play on another jumper from Patron. Paquette buried another 3 pointer for the Hawks, Patron responded with another layup inside. The Cards got a free throw from Brandon Johnson and a layup from him, on their next trip down the floor. Patron followed with another inside move and the Cardinals had their largest lead of the game at 68-59 with 7:27 to play. The Hawks responded in a very unusual way...they reeled off 15 straight point to go in front 74-68 with under 4 minutes remaining. I'm not sure if New Paltz has done that, this late in a game, all year long, but they had the Cardinals spinning their wheels and searching for a way to stop the bleeding. The answer for Plattsburgh was right where it had been all night long. Jon Patron with a little help from his friend, Eli Bryant. First Patron scored off an offensive rebound to make it 74-70, only to have the Hawks' Tristan Wissemann score inside at their end. Bryant hit a big 3 pointer to make it 76-73 with 2:20 to play. New Paltz then went to the line and got a pair of free throws from Andrew Seniuk. Bryant was the man once more with another huge 3 point shot that made it 78-76 with 1:36 to go. Both teams missed 3 point attempts on their next possession and then New Paltz turned it over with 27 seconds to play. Bryant tried to make his 3rd straight shot but missed it and Patron was there to grab the rebound and put it back up and in to tie the game at 78 with 12 seconds to go. On the ensuing trip downcourt by the Hawks Plattsburgh created a turnover and Patron got a feed from Bryant and he scored with 2 seconds left. New Paltz took a time out but couldn't get a clean shot off as Plattsburgh's Chris Middleton blocked it to end the game.

Plattsburgh got another big game from Jon Patron who almost matched the career high of 36 points that he established last Friday against Potsdam. He tossed in a game high 34 points last night and had his 8th double-double of the season with 16 rebounds, also the game high in that category.
Eli Bryant had 15 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists a steal and a block. He hit 5 of 9 shots from 3 point range.
Brandon Johnson had 9 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal in 21 minutes off the bench.
Zack Coleman had 8 points, 7 assists, 4 rebounds, a steal and a block.
Chris Middleton had 7 points, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and a steal.


Dylan Balducci led New Paltz with 14 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.
Corey Garcia had a double-double of 13 points and a game high 10 assists. He added 5 rebounds and 3 steals
Andrew Seniuk had 12 points, a team high 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.
Brandon Tolliver had 11 points, 6 rebounds and a steal.
Nick Paquette also had 11 points, 5 rebounds, an assist, and a steal in 23 minutes off the bench.
Nick Arthur had 8 points, 4 blocks, 2 rebounds and 1 assist.
Tristan Wissemann had 7 points in 6 minutes off the bench. He was a perfect 2x2 from the field, 1x1 from distance and 2x2 from the line.

Plattsburgh improves to 12-12 overall and 8-9 in the conference. They are now tied with Geneseo for the 6th and final playoff spot. They will play at Oneonta at 2:00 PM today.

New Paltz will have a final opportunity to get into the win column in the conference, when they host Potsdam State today at 2:00 PM. The Bears, with just a single win, that came at the expense of the Hawks, will try and prevent any company in the basement.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 18, 2017, 01:55:37 PM
Brockport over Oswego

Cortland over Geneseo

New Paltz over Potsdam

Buffalo State over Fredonia

Oneonta over Plattsburgh

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
Feb. 18  Five games on tap on the final day of the regular season.

Not much time so just some quick picks.   

Oswego State  at    Brockport State        2:00 PM

The drama is all gone with the loss by the Golden Eagles yesterday. Only pride on the line and that's not enough to snap the Eagles out of their funk. Oddsmakers have made Brockport a 5 point favorite. I think the Lakers win by 5... 83-78.

   
Cortland State  Geneseo State                 2:00 PM

I need a Cortland win here in the worst way. I hope these Red Dragons can win one for me. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a slim 1 point favorite. I can go with that (apologies to Hall and Oates) Cortland 85 Geneseo 84.   


Potsdam State  at  New Paltz State         2:00 PM

Hawks been waiting all year for this one. And after their near miss yesterday I think they get it. So do the oddsmakers who have made the Hawks a 4 point favorite. New Paltz 73 Potsdam 68.

   
Fredonia State  at  Buffalo State                 3:000 PM

The Blue Devils still alive for a playoff bid. The Bengals can't afford to lose and leave their fate in someone else's hands. The point spread favors the Bengals by a double digit 12 point margin. I think they win by a few more. Buffalo State 88 Fredonia 73.

Plattsburgh State  at  Oneonta State         2:00 PM

Plattsburgh needs a win here in the worst way. Oneonta would like one as well, but doesn't need one like the Cardinals do. I think the Red Dragons will probably win this one but I need to root, root, root, for the away team. So despite the oddsmakers favoring Oneonta by a solid 8 point spread, I'm bucking the odds and taking Plattsburgh to pull off the upset and come away with a 90-87 win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 18, 2017, 02:41:29 PM

Just a heads up on Cortland ....

RDragons without both C. Joseph and Z. Lydon. Virtal forces. Joseph went down in opening half of home date vs. Pburgh. Lydon exited Friday eve's contest at Bport with an ailment. Joseph's probably season-ending. As for Lydon ?????
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 02:49:01 PM
Plattsburgh leads Oneonta 51-25 at the half.

Probably the best half of basketball the Cardinals have played all year. They look like the team I thought they would be. Hope it continues for 20 more minutes. I can't believe Oneonta's shots will keep bouncing out. Sooner or later the Red Dragons will heat up. I hope it's later.

Eli Bryant leads all scorers with 13 points at the break. Jon Patron and Chriss Middleton both have 10 points. The Cardinals are hot, hot, hot from 3 point land going 8 for 14 in the half.

Oneonta's big 3 have most of the points. Frankie Kelly with 9, Mikey McElroy with 8 and Lawrence Coleman with 7. That's 24 of their 25 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 02:55:10 PM
Halftime scores

Geneseo leads Cortland 42-36.

Justin Ringen with 18 points for the Knights.

Michael Kelly with 11 and James Morales with 9 for the Red Dragons.

Certainly not happy to hear that Zach Lydon is out for Cortland. He's been a big part of their recent success as his play has continued to get better as the season progressed. Sorry to hear about Carrel Joseph as well, also a very valuable player for Cortland and a big reason for their success last year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 02:58:01 PM
New Paltz leads Potsdam 36-32 with the 2nd half about a minute old.

Dylan Balducci  and Andrew Seniuk both with 11 points for the Hawks.

Jayquan Thomas and Dante Langley with 9 points each for the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 03:00:43 PM
Brockport leads Oswego 36-30 at the half.

Clifton Lyerly with 9 points to lead the Golden Eagles. Hamed Shamseldin and Justin Summers with 8 points each.

Ian Schupp leads the Lakers with 12 points and Brian Sortino has 7.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 03:40:11 PM
Geneseo defeats Cortland 75-73.

Cortland with a chance to win it had the ball and dribbled the clock down. They took a 3 pointer that clanged off the rim and the buzzer sounded a second later.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 03:57:05 PM
Plattsburgh defeats Oneonta by a final of 92-82 I think, as they showed 3 different final scores. Also had the score 91-83 and 93-81.

Cardinals win and still aren't in the playoffs as the Geneseo win over the other Red Dragon team gave the Knights a playoff berth. Plattsburgh only gets in now if Buffalo State gets upset by Fredonia and I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell of that happening. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 18, 2017, 04:06:45 PM

With Brockport losing last night, then winning today - the SUNYAC might just be a one bid league this year.  Definitely some bubble watching for sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2017, 05:22:53 PM
Buffalo State defeats Fredonia 60-59 when the Blue Devils, with the final possession, fail to get off a decent shot.
Bengals miss two free throws with 26 seconds left to play that would have given them a 3 point lead. Fredonia grabbed the rebound and immediately took a time out. After the TO they inbounded the ball and brought it up over the time line and took another time out with 14 seconds left. Then they inbounded the ball after that TO, and took a 3rd timeout with 9 seconds left. Finally they inbounded the ball to Ian Helps who handed it off to Nicc Johnson. He drove across the lane and tried to attack the basket from the right side but the Bengal defense didn't allow him to penetrate. He threw up an off balance attempt at a bank shot that wasn't close and the ball was batted around past half court as the buzzer sounded.   

Congratulations to the Bengals for holding them off.

With the win the Bengals capture the 5th seed in the playoffs and Plattsburgh is on the outside looking in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 18, 2017, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 18, 2017, 02:41:29 PM

Just a heads up on Cortland ....

RDragons without both C. Joseph and Z. Lydon. Virtal forces. Joseph went down in opening half of home date vs. Pburgh. Lydon exited Friday eve's contest at Bport with an ailment. Joseph's probably season-ending. As for Lydon ?????

You can quote me. "Lydon will be playing Tuesday". Remember that you heard it here first!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
Potsdam State defeats New Paltz 84-82 in overtime.

In a game that featured 7 lead changes and 7 ties  the Bears finally came out on top when they scored 5 points in the last 14 seconds to end the game. It was a reversal of what the Hawks had pulled off at the end of regulation.

The Bears were up 73-69 in regulation, after Danny Delsol-Lowry made a pair of free throws with 28 seconds left. After a Potsdam time out, the Hawks hurried down and threw up a 3 pointer that missed, but Tristan Wissemann grabbed the offensive rebound and was fouled when he made the putback. He sank the "and one" to pull the Hawks within a point and then New Paltz fouled with just 14 seconds left to play. The Bears missed the front end of the 1&1 giving life to the Hawks. New Paltz missed the game winner with 3 seconds left but the Hawks, once again, got the offensive rebound and Nick Arthur was fouled on the play with 1 second showing on the clock. He only made 1 of 2 for the tie, sending the teams to the extra session.

The Hawks thankful for the reprieve, jumped in front of the Bears quickly by a 6 point 79-73 score. Potsdam got a pair from the line by Dante Langley and a 3 pointer from Nosa Onabor to narrow the gap and another trip to the line got them 1 of 2 for the tie at 79 apiece. Wissemann then buried a 3 pointer with 31 seconds remaining in overtime. Potsdam called a time out with 19 seconds left and Danny Delsol-Lowry hit a jumper to bring them within a point. The Hawks had the ball stolen 5 seconds later by Jayquan Thomas who was fouled making the theft. He made the first free throw to tie the game but missed the second one to give them the lead. It was the Bears turn to grab an offensive rebound and Dante Langley made up for his missed free throw at the end of regulation by not only snaring the rebound but scoring with only 5 seconds left to give the Bears the lead. New Paltz had a shot at the buzzer come up short and Potsdam walked off with the win.

The Bears got a game high 28 points from Nosa Onabor. He also had 6 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals. He hit 7 three pointers in 14 attempts.
Danny Delsol-Lowry had a double-double with 20 points and 10 rebounds. He added 5 assists and 2 steals.
Dante Langley had 15 points and 6 rebounds, none bigger than his last one, to give his team the win.
Jayquan Thomas filled up the stat sheet with 12 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 3 steals and a block.

Andrew Seniuk was the high man for the Hawks with 21 points and 4 rebounds.
Dylan Balducci had 15 points and 3 rebounds.
Corey Garcia had a double-double with 14 points and 16 assists. He added 6 rebounds and 5 steals.
Tristan Wissemann had 14 points and 6 rebounds.
Nick Arthur also had a double-double with 11 points and 10 rebounds. He also had 4 assists and 3 blocks.

The Bears ended their season with a 3-22 record overall and 2-16 in the conference. They return most of their roster and improvement is on the horizon.

New Paltz ends up with a 1-23 record and 0-18 in the conference. They only lose one player off this year's roster so next year should be a better season for the Hawks.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2017, 06:38:32 AM
Plattsburgh State 92  Oneonta State 82

I picked the Cardinals to win this game by a 90-87 final score. I was clutching at straws and really thought the Red Dragons would get the W. Just didn't want to pick against my Cards. Proud of the way my guys took control of this game right from the start. They played like their backs were to the wall, (and they certainly couldn't get any closer) and did what they had to do, to give them their best chance of making the playoffs. Two other games, out of their control, both came down to last second shots. Both of those shots came up empty and the Cardinals season was over.

Plattsburgh came out on fire and the only reason they didn't lead from start to finish is because Oneonta won the tip and Mikey McElroy scored immediately to put the Red Dragons up 2-0. It was tied at 5-5 and that was the last time that happened as well. Plattsburgh went up 14-7 on a Jon Patron 3 pointer, and made it a double digit lead at 24-14, on an Isaiah Hill 3 pointer. That came in the middle of a 20-2 Plattsburgh explosion over a 4 minute span and when Eli Bryant buried his third 3 pointer of the half, the score was 38-16 with 7 minutes left in the period. The Cardinals would go on to put up 13 more points on the board before the buzzer and held Oneonta to 9 points, to enter the break up 51-25.

Plattsburgh had a huge lead but I knew that Oneonta wouldn't quit. And they couldn't keep shooting as poorly as they were. The Red Dragons couldn't hit a shot from 3 point range to save their soul. They missed 15 straight attempts from downtown and weren't shooting that great from inside the arc either. Plattsburgh gradually increased their lead and with 13:22 left to play they were in front by 33 points, 65-32.

The Red Dragons slowly tried to fight their way back into contention. A 10-1 run cut the lead to 24 points but 5 straight points by Patron built it back to 29. Another 10-2 surge by Oneonta capped by a three pointer from Ian Schultz, their first triple of the game, brought them back to a 21 point deficit at 73-52, with 7:16 left to play. The Red Dragons were in full court press mode and the Cardinals got caught making some sloppy passes. The turnovers led to 8 Oneonta points and the 3 pointers started to fall. With 4:01 to go the lead was now just 10 points at 79-69. The Red Dragons were running out of time and got it down to 7 points on two occasions but each time Plattsburgh went to their go to guy and Jon Patron responded with big baskets. Down by 9 points with 50 seconds to go, Oneonta had to foul and the Cardinals put the game away. Heck of a comeback by Oneonta to make a game of it after being down by so many with so little time left.

The Cardinals
Jon Patron captured scoring honors with 24 points, shooting 9x12 from the field, 2x3 from deep and 4x5 from the line. He also had 7 rebounds and a block.
Eli Bryant had 17 points (6x12 fg, 3x6 3's, 2x2 ft), 5 rebounds and 3 assists.
Brandon Johnson had 16 points (4x7 fg, 1x2 3's, 7x10 ft), 8 rebounds and 5 assists in 24 minutes off the bench.
Ian Howard had a double-double with 11 points (4x9 fg, 3x3 ft) and a game high 12 rebounds.
Chris Middleton had 10 points (4x9 fg, 2x2 3's, 0x1 ft), 3 assists, 2 rebounds a steal and a block.
Zack Coleman had 9 points (3x7 fg, 0x2 3's, 3x4 ft), 4 assists and 3 rebounds.
Isaiah Hill had 5 points, 4 boards and 1 assist in 14 minutes off the bench   

The Red Dragons
Frankie Kelly was the team co-leader with 21 points (8x15 fg. 1x4 3's, 4x5ft), a game high 6 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal.
Lawrence Coleman also had 21 points (8x14 fg, 2x3 3's, 3x5 ft), and a team high 8 rebounds.
Mikey McElroy had 20 points (8x20 fg, 1x5 3's 3x4 ft) with 4 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.
Dwayne Freeman had 6 points, 4 rebounds and a steal.
Jack Kolosky had 6 points, 4 blocks, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.
Ian Schultz had 3 points, the triple that broke the ice from long range, a team high 8 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal in 19 minutes off the bench.

The Cardinals outshot the Red Dragons from the field, 51.7% (31x60) to 42,5% (31x73), from long range, 47.9% (9x19) to 22.7% (5x22) and from the line, 77.8% (21x27 to 71.4% (15x21).

Plattsburgh also won the battle of the boards 47 to 32 but Oneonta only had 6 turnovers to 17 for the Cardinals.

Plattsburgh ends their season on a winning note with a 2 game road sweep on the final weekend. They finished up 13-12 overall and 9x9 in the SUNYAC. The good news is they return their top 10 players and should be a prime contender next year.

Oneonta falls to 15-10 overall and 12-6 in the YAC. They captured the 3rd seed and will host #6 seed Geneseo this Tuesday at 5:30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2017, 07:54:10 PM
The final SUNYAC Player of the Week for Men's Basketball was Plattsburgh State's Jon Patron. It was the 2nd time this season that Jon was chosen as the Player of the Week, as he received that award back on December 5th, 2016, as well.

Congratulations to Jon on a great week. Below is the write up from the SUNYAC website.


Jonathan Patron, Plattsburgh
Feb 20, 2017
(So, F - Huntington, N.Y.)
Plattsburgh State sophomore forward Jonathan Patron averaged 24.7 points and 10 rebounds per game in a 2-1 week for the Cardinals. He shot 68.1 percent (32-of-47) from the floor for the week, including a 75.8 percent (25-of-33) clip against SUNYAC teams. After scoring 16 points in a 91-70 loss to No. 10 Middlebury College on Tuesday, Patron helped Plattsburgh State bounce back with a 34-point outing on 16-of-21 shooting in an 80-78 win over SUNY New Paltzon Friday, scoring what wound up being the game-winning basket with two seconds left in regulation. He also grabbed a career-high 16 rebounds against the Hawks. Finally, on Saturday, he drained 24 points in a 92-82 win over SUNY Oneonta. Patron currently sits just 182 points shy of 1,000 for his career after just his sophomore campaign.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 21, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
2 games tonight

Oneonta at home against Geneseo. The Red Dragons won both games during the regular season and tonight won't be that different. Look for the Red Dragons to win by double digits.

Buffalo State on the road against Cortland. If Joseph and Lydon are out look for Buffalo State to come out fast and furious and get into the semi-finals in Oswego this weekend.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2017, 04:47:28 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 18, 2017, 02:41:29 PM

Just a heads up on Cortland ....

RDragons without both C. Joseph and Z. Lydon. Virtal forces. Joseph went down in opening half of home date vs. Pburgh. Lydon exited Friday eve's contest at Bport with an ailment. Joseph's probably season-ending. As for Lydon ?????

Newsflash.  Lydon is dressed and warming up for today's game vs BUFFALO STATE!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2017, 05:17:40 PM
Feb. 21   Two first round games tonight to determine who will advance to the semifinals    

Geneseo  State  at  Oneonta State        5:30 PM

The 2 regular season games were decided by a total of 5 points. The Red Dragons won both games but had to overcome a 15 point 2nd half deficit to squeak out a 1 point 89-88 win at Geneseo. The only time they had the lead was after Frankie Kelly's bucket with 3 seconds left on the clock. The 2nd game was a back and forth affair with 10 ties and 14 lead changes that was also a 1 point game with under 2 minutes to go. Oneonta's Kevin Mackin hit a 3 pointer with 1:10 on the clock that proved to be the decisive basket as the Red Dragons won 83-79.

Can Geneseo finally get over the hump and come away with the W. The oddsmakers say they can't and have made Oneonta a 4 point home favorite. Oneonta was 7-2 at home in conference play. Geneseo was 4-5 on the road and their 4 wins were against the bottom 4 teams in the YAC. The big 3 of Oneonta, Kelly, McElroy and Coleman have never won a conference playoff game and today is their last chance. I think they get it done at home. Oneonta wins this one in another close game 86-83.     

   
   
Buffalo State  at   Cortland State        5:30 PM

The Red Dragons have already lost one starter for the season, Carrel Joseph, and last week another starter, Zach Lydon, missed the final regular season game with an injury. The question is will the big man play in today's game? With injuries to the ranks of their big men, Cortland could be at a disadvantage in this evening's contest. The teams split the regular season meetings each winning on their home court. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a 4 point home favorite in this game but I think the Bengals could pull off a minor upset in this one. Lots of seniors on this Bengal team who don't want this to be their last game. That and the questionable status of Lydon point toward a Buffalo State win by a final score of 84-80. 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2017, 06:09:48 PM
Oneonta leads Geneseo by a 42-22 score at the half.

The Red Dragons were on fire from 3 point range, whcih is normally a Geneseo strong point. However it was Oneonta knocking down 8 of 13 from long range (61.5%) while the Knights only had 2 of 13 attempts from behind the arc find the bottom of the net (15.4%).

As usual Oneonta's Big 3 lead the way. Lawrence Coleman and Frankie Kelly with 12 points each and Mikey McElroy with 10 points.

Justin Ringen with 8 and John Decker with 6 lead the Knights. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2017, 06:20:26 PM
Cortland leads Buffalo State 28-25 at the break.

Both teams having trouble putting the ball in the hoop as they combine for 17x57 from the field. Bengals were 9x29 and Cortland was 8x28. Bengals 1x11 ffrom downtown.  Red Dragons were 2x10.


Justin Prendergast leads Cortland with 7 points. Michael Kelly and Justin Cooper with 6 each.

Lovell Smith tops the Bengals with 6 points. Mike Henry and Dom Grayer each have 5 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2017, 06:58:45 PM
Oneonta defeats Geneseo 89-73 to advance to the semifinals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2017, 07:30:24 PM
Buffalo State defeats Cortland State 61-59 to advance to the semifinals.



Oneonta State will play Brockport State on Friday at 5:30 at Oswego

Buffalo State will play Oswego State on Friday at 7:30 at Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 21, 2017, 09:03:12 PM
 Whew.  Mama said that there would be games like this!! My BENGALS had gone 0-6 in their last 6 visits to Cortland. In fact their last victory at Cortland was in 2011. In fact 2011 was also the last time that Buff State beat Cortland in the playoffs !  And after that playoff win, in 2011, we went on to Oswego for the semi finals and then ultimately the last championship title that my BENGALS got! 

I gotta look up the definition of "Deja vu"

Go BENGALS !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 22, 2017, 01:03:20 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2017, 04:44:42 AM
Oneonta State  89  Geneseo State 73

The only time the Knights were close in this game was in the very early going because at the 12:48 mark of the first half the Red Dragons opened up a double digit lead on a Mikey McElroy 3 pointer to make it 15-4. It just got worse from there. A John Decker layup cut the margin to 17-10 but Oneonta scored 10 unanswered points on a Lawrence Coleman triple, 2 layups by Frankie Kelly and another trifecta from McElroy. It was now 27-10 and the Knights took another time out to stem the tide. It didn't slow Oneonta down as they put 15 more points on the board to 12 for the Knights and went into the break with a comfortable 42-22 advantage.

The Knights needed to get something going right after the resumption of play and they slowly cut into the lead and were only down 11 points with 14 minutes left in the half at 51-40. Oneonta would have none of that. however, and outscored the Knights 13-5 over the next 3:14 to go up 64-45 with 10:30 on the clock. The Knights wouldn't quit, though and made several runs at getting back into the game but each time they did someone from Oneonta would step up and put more distance between them. The Knights' last hurrah came with 5 minutes left after 5 straight points by Justin Ringen cut the lead to 11 points once again, at 72-61. A McElroy layup and a 3 pointer from Kevin Mackin put the Red Dragons back up by 16. A Geneseo turnover resulted in a dunk by McElroy and it was time to light the cigar. Frankie Kelly scored off another turnover and it was just a question of how large the final margin would be.

Oneonta got another double-double from Lawrence Coleman who ended up with 22 points and 10 rebounds.
Frankie Kelly had 20 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals.
Mikey McElroy had 20 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.
Kevin Mackin had 11 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 24 minutes off the bench.
Jack Kolosky had 7 points and matched the game high rebound total with 10 boards. He added 3 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.


Justin Ringen had a game high 26 points for the Knights and a team high 8 rebounds. He also had 2 assists and 2 steals.
Jack Eisenberg had 18 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists.
John Decker also had double figures with 12 points.

Ringen and Decker may have played their last game for Geneseo (unless they get into the ECAC's) and both players went over the 1000 point mark in a Geneseo uniform in Tuesday's game. That shows what prolific scorers this pair could be as they each accomplished that feat in only 2 years at the school having transferred in as juniors.

Oneonta improves to 16-10 overall and will now take on #2 seed Brockport in the first semifinal game on Friday at 5:30 PM in Laker Hall at Oswego.

Geneseo falls to 14-12.     
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2017, 05:47:16 AM
Buffalo State 61 Cortland State 59

I'd a bet a lot of money that the over/under in this game would be somewhere north of 150 points. If you told me it was 121 I woulda  bet the farm. Funny thing this game of basketball. Sometimes you can't miss from 23 feet and other times you can't make from 3 feet.

There were 18 missed layups in this game. The 3 point shooting was not good for either side as they combined to make 9 of 42 attempts. That's 21.4% if you're counting. Turnovers...you betcha, 34 in all. 18 by the Bengals and 16 by the Red Dragons. Neither team had a big lead, 8 was Buff State's biggest advantage with 14:15 to play in the game, while Cortland was up 6 shortly after the 2nd half started.  There were 6 ties and 3 lead changes, and it looked like the Bengals had control of the game when they equaled their largest lead on back to back Lovell Smith baskets to make it 60-52 with 3:19 to play. Smith scored on a layup with 4:43 to go and Cortland turned it over on their possession. The Bengals' Dom Grayer missed a 3 pointer but Jordan Glover got the offensive rebound. He missed a 3 pointer and Smith got the offensive rebound. Jordan Chateau missed a short jumper and Smith again got the rebound and tip in to make that 8 point margin. He worked hard that trip and finally made it pay off.

The Bengals never make it easy on themselves, though, and proceeded to turn the ball over on 2 of their next 3 trips down, allowing Cortland to score twice and forcing a Bengal timeout  with 1:25 left to play. Cortland, with the ball, coming out of the time out, needed a score to make it a 1 possession game. They missed a layup and the Bengals got the rebound, but they turned it over once more with 55 seconds to go. Cortland returned the favor throwing the ball away and with 45 seconds left the Red Dragons had to foul.  Buffalo State made 1 of 2 to go in front 61-56 but Michael Kelly drained a long bomb for Cortland to make it 61-59. With 34 seconds remaining the Red Dragons fouled and the Bengals went to the line and missed the front end of a 1&1. Now Cortland had the last shot and I think everyone in the house knew it would be a 3 point attempt. It was and it didn't go down and the Bengals won in Cortland for the first time in like forever.

Lovell Smith had a game high 18 points and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. He added 3 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Mike Henry did have a double-double with 11 points and 10 rebounds. He had 3 assists and 2 steals.
Jordan Glover had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.
Jordan Chateau had 5 points and 8 rebounds in 21 minutes off the bench.
Dom Grayer had 8 points 2 rebounds and 2 steals.


Justin Cooper led the Red Dragons with 16 points and also had a team high 8 rebounds. He added 1 assist, a steal and a block.
Justin Prendergast had 13 points and 5 rebounds.
Michael Kelly had 12 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.
James Morales had 11 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals and a block.

The Bengals improve to 17-8 and will face the top seeded Oswego State Lakers in game 2 of the semifinals on Friday at 7:30 in Max Ziel Gym at Laker Hall.

Cortland completes their season at 17-9. Not sure if they are bidding for an ECAC berth. I heard they weren't.
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2017, 06:01:27 AM
Regarding the ECAC tournament that used to occur after the regular season ended for teams not getting an NCAA bid but having a winning record.

Interest in this tournament, which had been an annual fixture for quite some time, had died down so much in recent years (due to time and expenses I suspect) that last year there wasn't one. At least in our region.

This year I'm told that the ECAC wants to get 4 teams from 4 regions (16 total teams for you guys that have math problems) and after you play the first round games at the home of the higher seed (or team with the better record or team that wants to host, cause some teams don't) the remaining 8 teams will travel to a single location to compete in an overall championship. I'm also told the ECAC will pay for that trip. Sounds interesting and a way your team can end the year on a positive note. Great if you have a lot of seniors and want to give them a decent send off. Also great if you've got a young team and can give them a chance to build on something for next year.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 22, 2017, 06:57:35 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 22, 2017, 06:01:27 AM
Regarding the ECAC tournament that used to occur after the regular season ended for teams not getting an NCAA bid but having a winning record.

Interest in this tournament, which had been an annual fixture for quite some time, had died down so much in recent years (due to time and expenses I suspect) that last year there wasn't one. At least in our region.

This year I'm told that the ECAC wants to get 4 teams from 4 regions (16 total teams for you guys that have math problems) and after you play the first round games at the home of the higher seed (or team with the better record or team that wants to host, cause some teams don't) the remaining 8 teams will travel to a single location to compete in an overall championship. I'm also told the ECAC will pay for that trip. Sounds interesting and a way your team can end the year on a positive note. Great if you have a lot of seniors and want to give them a decent send off. Also great if you've got a young team and can give them a chance to build on something for next year.     

So, the ECAC is happening in a two location, four round deal.  From what I know, they're going to take four teams from each region.  That'll be a little difficult, though, since only two teams from NE even applied (and one of them is likely to win the NAC) - http://www.ecacsports.com/documents/2017/2/17//2017_Men_s_Basketball_Declared_Teams5.pdf.  "Expenses" include a $4,000 stipend for the team that hosts the final eight teams, plus round trip bus costs for those eight teams - no remuneration for the first round.

Given that $4,000 won't cover the cost of hosting, I'm guessing few teams have applied to host that final weekend - I know at least one school very capable of doing it that explicitly didn't because of cost.

I think in one sense, it's a more exciting tournament than what they've done before, but I don't think there are enough teams willing to participate to make it really worth it.  Remember, teams have to be at least .500 against d3 competition to get in.  The women have the same format and even fewer teams that signed on - http://www.ecacsports.com/documents/2017/2/17//2017_Women_s_Basketball_Declared_Teams.pdf
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 22, 2017, 10:39:44 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 22, 2017, 05:47:16 AM
Buffalo State 61 Cortland State 59

I'd a bet a lot of money that the over/under in this game would be somewhere north of 150 points. If you told me it was 121 I woulda  bet the farm. Funny thing this game of basketball. Sometimes you can't miss from 23 feet and other times you can't make from 3 feet.

There were 18 missed layups in this game. The 3 point shooting was not good for either side as they combined to make 9 of 42 attempts. That's 21.4% if you're counting. Turnovers...you betcha, 34 in all. 18 by the Bengals and 16 by the Red Dragons. Neither team had a big lead, 8 was Buff State's biggest advantage with 14:15 to play in the game, while Cortland was up 6 shortly after the 2nd half started.  There were 6 ties and 3 lead changes, and it looked like the Bengals had control of the game when they equaled their largest lead on back to back Lovell Smith baskets to make it 60-52 with 3:19 to play. Smith scored on a layup with 4:43 to go and Cortland turned it over on their possession. The Bengals' Dom Grayer missed a 3 pointer but Jordan Glover got the offensive rebound. He missed a 3 pointer and Smith got the offensive rebound. Jordan Chateau missed a short jumper and Smith again got the rebound and tip in to make that 8 point margin. He worked hard that trip and finally made it pay off.

The Bengals never make it easy on themselves, though, and proceeded to turn the ball over on 2 of their next 3 trips down, allowing Cortland to score twice and forcing a Bengal timeout  with 1:25 left to play. Cortland, with the ball, coming out of the time out, needed a score to make it a 1 possession game. They missed a layup and the Bengals got the rebound, but they turned it over once more with 55 seconds to go. Cortland returned the favor throwing the ball away and with 45 seconds left the Red Dragons had to foul.  Buffalo State made 1 of 2 to go in front 61-56 but Michael Kelly drained a long bomb for Cortland to make it 61-59. With 34 seconds remaining the Red Dragons fouled and the Bengals went to the line and missed the front end of a 1&1. Now Cortland had the last shot and I think everyone in the house knew it would be a 3 point attempt. It was and it didn't go down and the Bengals won in Cortland for the first time in like forever.

Lovell Smith had a game high 18 points and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. He added 3 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Mike Henry did have a double-double with 11 points and 10 rebounds. He had 3 assists and 2 steals.
Jordan Glover had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.
Jordan Chateau had 5 points and 8 rebounds in 21 minutes off the bench.
Dom Grayer had 8 points 2 rebounds and 2 steals.


Justin Cooper led the Red Dragons with 16 points and also had a team high 8 rebounds. He added 1 assist, a steal and a block.
Justin Prendergast had 13 points and 5 rebounds.
Michael Kelly had 12 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.
James Morales had 11 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals and a block.

The Bengals improve to 17-8 and will face the top seeded Oswego State Lakers in game 2 of the semifinals on Friday at 7:30 in Max Ziel Gym at Laker Hall.

Cortland completes their season at 17-9. Not sure if they are bidding for an ECAC berth. I heard they weren't.
   

Magicman....For what its worth, at least 3 of the BENGALS coaches were aware of your fortuitous prediction for Buffalo State yesterday!  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 22, 2017, 11:42:47 AM
That ECAC stuff is interesting!  Thank you for sharing.  Only two teams declared from New England?  Yikes!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 22, 2017, 12:19:29 PM
Well, Brockport will avoid the team that was kryptonite to them this year, but the other Red Dragons should be a tough test again.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 22, 2017, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 22, 2017, 06:01:27 AM
Regarding the ECAC tournament that used to occur after the regular season ended for teams not getting an NCAA bid but having a winning record.

Interest in this tournament, which had been an annual fixture for quite some time, had died down so much in recent years (due to time and expenses I suspect) that last year there wasn't one. At least in our region.

This year I'm told that the ECAC wants to get 4 teams from 4 regions (16 total teams for you guys that have math problems) and after you play the first round games at the home of the higher seed (or team with the better record or team that wants to host, cause some teams don't) the remaining 8 teams will travel to a single location to compete in an overall championship. I'm also told the ECAC will pay for that trip. Sounds interesting and a way your team can end the year on a positive note. Great if you have a lot of seniors and want to give them a decent send off. Also great if you've got a young team and can give them a chance to build on something for next year.     

Looks like there's no shortage of "south" teams that have declared for the tourney!  I'm surprised that Cortland signed up for this!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on February 22, 2017, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 22, 2017, 06:01:27 AM
Regarding the ECAC tournament that used to occur after the regular season ended for teams not getting an NCAA bid but having a winning record.

Interest in this tournament, which had been an annual fixture for quite some time, had died down so much in recent years (due to time and expenses I suspect) that last year there wasn't one. At least in our region.

This year I'm told that the ECAC wants to get 4 teams from 4 regions (16 total teams for you guys that have math problems) and after you play the first round games at the home of the higher seed (or team with the better record or team that wants to host, cause some teams don't) the remaining 8 teams will travel to a single location to compete in an overall championship. I'm also told the ECAC will pay for that trip. Sounds interesting and a way your team can end the year on a positive note. Great if you have a lot of seniors and want to give them a decent send off. Also great if you've got a young team and can give them a chance to build on something for next year.     

Excuse my intrusion to the East Boards... but this ECAC tourney sounds like a very cool idea. What teams are members of the ECAC or is just any and all of the schools on the east side of the Mississippi? I'm more of a MIAC guy so this specific tournament does not apply to me as much but it would be cool to see something like this in the west as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 22, 2017, 11:26:15 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 22, 2017, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 22, 2017, 06:01:27 AM
Regarding the ECAC tournament that used to occur after the regular season ended for teams not getting an NCAA bid but having a winning record.

Interest in this tournament, which had been an annual fixture for quite some time, had died down so much in recent years (due to time and expenses I suspect) that last year there wasn't one. At least in our region.

This year I'm told that the ECAC wants to get 4 teams from 4 regions (16 total teams for you guys that have math problems) and after you play the first round games at the home of the higher seed (or team with the better record or team that wants to host, cause some teams don't) the remaining 8 teams will travel to a single location to compete in an overall championship. I'm also told the ECAC will pay for that trip. Sounds interesting and a way your team can end the year on a positive note. Great if you have a lot of seniors and want to give them a decent send off. Also great if you've got a young team and can give them a chance to build on something for next year.     

Excuse my intrusion to the East Boards... but this ECAC tourney sounds like a very cool idea. What teams are members of the ECAC or is just any and all of the schools on the east side of the Mississippi? I'm more of a MIAC guy so this specific tournament does not apply to me as much but it would be cool to see something like this in the west as well.

The ECAC was a sort of blanket conference sort of thing that's been around forever.  They do still sponsor some sports, I believe.  Anyway, a lot of teams have pulled out in recent years, because it costs money and there was never really any benefit coming back.  When not every conference got an AQ to the NCAAs, it was a good consolation, but the luster is off for most teams.  I know it's still a reward for a few teams, maybe those who've never had a lot of success, but it's dying slowly.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2017, 11:50:38 PM
I posted this on the Liberty League board but it concerns the SUNYAC conference as well.

Two losses in the Liberty League tonight as the top 2 seeds Skidmore and St.Lawrence both lose.

St. Lawrence lost in double overtime to Union 110-108 on a last second 3 pointer.

Skidmore was upset by 4th seeded Hobart 70-65.

Skidmore's loss creates  another East Region team that is hanging by a thread, hoping for an NCAA at large bid. With a 19-7 overall record it might be tough to get in. Losing in the semifinal game hurts. Two years ago Plattsburgh State won the regular season SUNYAC crown and lost in the Championship game of the conference tournament, ended up 19-8 and they didn't get an at large bid. A few years earlier when Hamilton was a member of the Liberty League they finished tied with SLU with a 12-2 league record and were 18-7 overall. They lost in the first round of the LL tournament and were bypassed by the committee.

The 3rd set of Regional Rankings came out today and Rochester is still the top ranked team in the East even with a loss in their last game. They lost the automatic bid from their conference to Washington U, so the Yellowjackets will be the first team at the table from the East Region.  St. John Fisher is ranked 2nd in the region and even if they lose I don't think SLU, with their loss tonight, will jump over the Cardinals. If Fisher loses they may be the 2nd team at the table. The best Oswego  or Brockport can be if they don't win the SUNYAC would be 20-7, assuming they win a semifinal game and lose in the championship game. That may be good enough to move them past Skidmore and in Brockport's case if they get to 20-7, move them over the Saints. They own a win over St. Lawrence and could have a stronger SOS than the Saints by selection time with 2 playoff games against the single game SLU had. SLU has a win over Oswego so if the Lakers lo
se, the Saints will probably stay in front of Oswego. 
There are 21 at large bids this year and 8 regions looking to get them. Some regions will get 4 or perhaps 5 bids, like the New England region as an example. The NESCAC conference could get 4 teams into the NCAA tournament and 5 isn't out of the question. The Midwest region also has a number of teams that will get at large bids. The East Region will be fortunate to get three bids. We may only get two.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 24, 2017, 02:19:25 PM
Well it all comes down to this weekend.
Great finish to the season.
Really thought that Magicman's Cardinals were going to get in.

But the best 4 teams are in Oswego to win the SHIP.

My picks for tonight.

The Oneonta Red Dragons finally get over the Hump and beat Brockport. The Big 3 will certainly be the difference.
Frank Kelly came back to win a SUNYAC Championship and play for Coach Cameron and the Red Dragons will not disappoint.
It's tough to beat a team 3 times. Look for McElroy, Coleman and Kelly to have big nights as Oneonta beats Brockport in a THRILLA.

Oswego over Buffalo State. I really thought Buffalo State was going to blow the game against Cortland because of their foul shooting down the stretch. The Lakers with Brian Sortino and company live for this time of year. Look for it to be a low scoring game with Oswego taking this one to set up the Championship game tomorrow against the Red Dragons.

Enjoy the Games

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
SUNYAC Semifinals


Oneonta State   vs  Brockport State        5:30 PM

The 3rd time's a charm rule is in play for both games tonight and that's going to come into play. I'm just not sure if it will be this game. As much as I'd like Coach Cameron and his Big 3 to win all the marbles this year, I think they are up against it facing the Golden Eagles. I expect another close game but the oddsmakers have made Brockport a 3 point favorite on the neutral court. I think that's about right. Brockport's fullcourt pressure will be the deciding factor. The Golden Eagles win this one 87-83.


Buffalo State  at  Oswego State        7:30 PM

The two previous games between the Lakers and the Bengals have both resulted in Oswego victories. By a grand total of 2 points. Lakers won 71-70 a home and 69-68 in the Queen City. It can't get any closer than that. Will the Bengals get their hearts broken for a 3rd time against Oswego? The oddsmakers seem to think they will as they have installed the Lakers as a 3 point home favorite. I'd feel better about picking the Bengals if I knew the status of starter Nico McLean who was absent in the first round game on Tuesday against Cortland. Normally I'd have that information but a certain, usually reliable source, has failed to keep me informed. I'm still picking the Bengals to pull off the mild upset here as I think it's their turn to win a close one and their time to shine. Bengals 75 Oswego 72.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 24, 2017, 05:17:00 PM
Heading up rt 481 to Laker Hall.  Joined my BENGALS earlier today up there for shoot around and to see what locker room they were assigned. Got locker room 7B which was the same one Buff State had 6 years ago during thier last trip to the SUNYAC semifinals (at Oswego in 2011!)

All Star, you will appreciate this! As we approached the gym for the 2 pm shoot around, Oneonta was leaving the gym ( from their 1 pm shootaround). I slapped it down with McElroy( who is the younger brother of a former BENGAL - All Sunyac women's player, Stacy McElroy) and told him "see you tomorrow "!  He smiled and said "bet". I'm sure hoping that the Magicman is right again tonight ! After 2, 1 loss victories to Oswego, I want this 1 more than anything!

These boys, especially the seniors, deserve to go out on top.  Love these boys!!

Time for a quick prayer.

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 05:42:29 PM
I'm not happy that there is no video stream coming from Oswego on the Oneonta -Brockport game. They are showing a link on the Oneonta website but when you click on it it says the livestream is offline now. I bet it won't be offline for the Oswego game. SUNYAC should make sure the host site has a live stream for both semifinal games and not just the host's game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 05:58:09 PM
Someone at Oswego must have heard me complaining because shortly after I posted that there was no video, I came back and checked and they had it up and running. :D Thank you.

I hope Brockport fans trying to get a video stream went to the Oswego or Oneonta website because you can't access the video stream from Brockport's website. There is a link on their website but you can't click on it and have the live stream or live stats come up. A gremlin somewhere in their website I guess.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 06:18:07 PM
Oneonta leads Brockport 38-36 at the half.

The Golden Eagles had the better of play for a large part of the first half and after a back and forth first 6 minutes, Brockport opened up a 6 point 19-13 lead. They stretched their advantage to 31-22 with 8:28 to play but the Red Dragons came roaring back to end the half on a 16-5 run to go in front at the break.

Lawrence Coleman was the main man in the opening period for Oneonta as he tallied 13 points, 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Dwayne Freeman had 7 points, while Frankie Kelly and Ian Schultz had 6 each.

Devonn Gavin leads the Golden Eagles with 12 points. Marcus Blythers has 7 points and 6 boards. Clifton Lyerly also has 7 points
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 06:47:08 PM
Oneonta opens up a 10 point lead on the Golden Eagles forcing them to take a time out. The score is 59-49 with 8:25 left in the game. Brockport needs to put something together soon or this one will be over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 08:51:26 PM
Oswego leads Buffalo State 35-32 at the half.

9 lead changes and 4 ties in a tightly contested first half. I expect more of the same coming right up.

Brian Sortino (who else) leads Oswego with 14 points. Ian Schupp and Jamir Ferebee with 9 each.

Lovell Smith with 13 points to lead the Bengals.  Jordan Glover has 8 and Dom Grayer has 7.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 09:32:05 PM
40 minutes can't decide this one so they go to overtime as Oswego and Buffalo State are tied at 76. Brian Sortino with the ball and 29 seconds left, so he holds it for the last shot, which surprised exactly no one in the gym. He drove to the basket and laid it up but good defense by the Bengals forced him to try and bank it in high off the glass and it wouldn't go down. Ball went out of bounds off the Bengals with one tenth of a second on the clock. On the in bounds play nothing happened ad this will be settled in an extra session...maybe.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2017, 09:54:10 PM
Oswego State breaks the Bengals' heart a 3rd time even worse than the first two as they win again by a single point in overtime 84-83. The Bengals had the last shot with 8 seconds left and opted for a 3 point attempt instead of a drive to the hoop. It was off the mark and the Lakers got the rebound as time expired. Not sure I would have wanted that to be my final shot. My choice was go to Lovell Smith inside on a drive and hope he gets fouled if the shot doesn't go in.

Great game to watch and a shame someone had to lose.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 24, 2017, 10:30:19 PM
Congrats to you the Oswego Lakers!  1 point better again and 1 of the best shooting exhibitions by a player that I have seen in Brian Sortino!  This 1 is gonna hurt for awhile! Hoping the best for the Yac!

Go BENGALS !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 25, 2017, 02:26:20 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2017, 04:39:39 AM
Oneonta advances to the Championship game with a convincing 85-72 win over Brockport. Solid game by the Red Dragons who led the entire 2nd half. They maintained a 2 possession lead for the first 11 minutes of the final period and then opened up a double digit lead with 8:33 to go. They were comfortably in front the rest of the way stretching their lead to as many as 15 points as Brockport had to foul.

The Golden Eagles biggest downfall was their inability to make many shots from behind the arc. They were a pitiful 5x30 (16.7%) from long range and you won't win many ballgames with that statistic in your box score. Oneonta only took 10 shots from 3 point range and made 3 of them. Overall Brockport shot 27x79 from the field (34.2%) whil the Red Dragons shot 26x49 (53.1%). That's the story of the game in a nutshell. The Red Dragons also killed Brockport from the line as they went 30x42 (71.4%) to just 13x19 (68.4%) for the Eagles. The referees called a tight game which didn't favor Brockport and their swarming defense. 31 fouls were called on the Eagles to 16 called on Oneonta. Brockport did have a bunch of fouls in the final few minutes to try and get back into the game but they were clearly frustrated by the officials tight calls.


The Red Dragons
Lawrence Coleman captured scoring honors and rebounding honors as he's done a number of  times this year. He had 24 points (8x12 fg, 1x2 3's, 7x11 ft) and completed his double-double with 14 rebounds. He added 3 steals and a block.

Frankie Kelly had 21 points (6x8 fg, 1x2 3's, 8x9 ft), 6 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Mikey McElroy had 14 points 6 rebounds and 3 assists.

Jack Kolosky had 8 rebounds,7 points, a steal, an asssist and a block.

Dwayne Freeman had 9 points, 2 boards and a steal.

Ian Schultz had 6 points, 4 rebounds and 1 assist in 16 minutes off the bench.

Harrison Deegan had 4 points, 4 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal in 13 minutes off the bench.


The Golden Eagles
Devonn Gavin lead the team with 20 points (8x18 fg, 2x9 3's, 2x4 ft), 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Matthew Smith had 12 points (5x11 fg, 1x3 3's, 1x1 ft), 4 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals.

Marcus Blythers had 11 points and a team high 10 rebounds to get a double-double. He also had 2 steals, an assists and a block.

Hamed Shamseldin had 11 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals.

Clifton Lyerly had 8 points and 3 rebounds.

Oneonta will face Oswego at 4:00 PM on Saturday afternoon for the SUNYAC Championship and the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. The Red Dragons improve their overall record to 17-10. They need to beat Oswego and win the automatic qualifier to get into the NCAA tournament, because they won't get an at large bid if they lose. They need to play like there is no tomorrow because if they lose, there isn't.

Brockport drops to 19-7 overall and will now see if their season will continue with an at  large bid from the NCAA committee. I'd like to see them get one but I think that a 19-7 record (20-7 would have been so much better) and not making the championship game will be tough to overcome. I sure hope I'm wrong about that.   
It's going to come down to how many top seeds lose in the next few days and how many at large bids the committee hands out to the Northeast region and the Central region. Those regions are going to get a bunch of bids even if all the top seeds win.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 25, 2017, 02:37:12 PM
The Oneonta Red Dragons will beat Oswego today in the SUNYAC Championship. ;)

Brian Sortino carried the Lakers on his back last night and they needed every one of his 48 points to beat Buffalo State.
A shout out to Brian Sortino on a fantastic career at Oswego. He was a clutch performer who came to play every game.

Look for the BIG 3 of McElroy, Coleman and Kelly to carry the Red Dragons to their 1st SUNYAC Championship in a long time.
All 3 have had fantastic careers at Oneonta. Coach Medici was instrumental in getting these guys to Oneonta and he should feel great that they finally got the school a SUNYAC Championship.

The SUNYAC will have 2 teams going to the Dance. Oneonta and Oswego.
Looking for both teams to make a nice run in the Dance.

Congratulations to Coach Cameron and the Red Dragons for a great season.



Enjoy the Game

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2017, 03:44:36 PM
Oneonta State at Oswego State SUNYAC Championship  4:00 PM

The Lakers' Brian Sortino put on quite a show for his fans last night in Max Ziel GYm. Could he possibly have an encore presentation in him? I've long since became a believer in what he can do as I've watched him beat my Cardinals, in crucial situations, way too many times. Last night wasn't an aberration, it was the norm. If his team needs to score, he usually finds a way to get it done. The Lakers do have some other players who can also play the game and beating them at home will not be an easy thing to do. The oddsmakers have made them a 3 point favorite in this game.

Oneonta is playing excellent ball right now and I think the 4 guys in their final SUNYAC game would like to go out a winner and bring home the first ever Championship banner in Men's basketball. It would also be a nice feather in Coach Conover's cap to win a YAC title in his first year as a head coach. I'm just not sure the Red Dragons can get it done against the home team. But I have a number of reasons I want Oneonta to win this game and the primary one is so we can get 2 entries into the NCAA tournament. So I'm going with the Red Dragons to win, in another close game. Final score, Oneonta 81 Oswego 78.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2017, 04:44:54 PM
Oswego State 53 Oneonta State 38 at the half

Brian Sortino is still in a zone as he puts up 20 first half points to lead all scorers. He scores 10 of those points in the last 3 minutes of the half as he nails back to back 3 pointers in the final 41 seconds to boost a 9 point lead to 15 in the blink of an eye. Sortino is 8x11 from the field and 4x5 from downtown.  I imagine he may do a heat check from just over the time line at some point in the 2nd half. Ian Schupp is also socking it to his old teammates as he has 15 points on 6x9 shooting including 3x4 from long range. Jamir Ferebee has 7 points as well.

The Red Dragons got 11 points from Lawrence Coleman and Frankie Kelly . Mikey McElroy has 10 points and Ian Schultz has 8 rebounds and 4 points.

The Red Dragons need a run to get this game back to a reasonable deficit. Hopefully the guys can respond and maybe the Lakers will come down to earth a bit, but I wouldn't count on that 2nd part happening.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 26, 2017, 01:02:13 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2017, 03:55:35 PM
SUNYAC Championship

Oswego State 75 Oneonta State 70

Congratulations to The Lakers on their Regular Season Crown and Tournament Championship. Last year you made the Sweet 16. I Hope you go even further this year. Good Luck.

The Lakers broke on top quickly and had a 12-3 lead after 3:30 of the first period. Oneonta almost caught up at 12-10, but Oswego outscored them 13-5 to open up a double digit lead at 25-15 with 12 minutes left. The Lakers now had a comfort zone and that's not a good thing for their opponents. The lead grew to 15 points and just as the Red Dragons were closing some ground, cutting their deficit to 9, with under a minute in the half, Mr.Clutch  buried a pair of 3's, 35 seconds apart and the Lakers trotted off the court with a 53-38 halftime lead. The two 3 pointers gave Sortino 68 points over his last 65 minutes of playoff basketball. That's bigtime ballin.

Oneonta needed to get back into the game quickly to have any chance and they did just that scoring the first 4 points of the half forcing Coach Leone to take a quick time out. That didn't slow them down much as they scored the next 5  points coming out of that TO. Suddenly the lead was only 6 points instead of 15. If at first you don't succeed, take another time out, and that's what Coach Leone did. This time it worked as the Lakers responded with a pair of buckets to build it back to a 10 point lead.

Over the next ten minutes the Lakers' lead fluctuated between 10 and 14 points as the Lakers got contributions from several different players to hold the Red Dragons at bay. But with time running out and Oneonta down 69-56 with under 7 minutes left to play, the Red Dragons' Big Three scored 9 unanswered points, to pull them within 4 points of the Lakers, the last 3 coming on a 3 point play from Mikey McElroy. It was the closest they had been since the 13:16 mark of the first half. The Lakers turned the ball over on their next possession and the Red Dragons had a chance to cut it to a one possession game. McElroy's jumper rimmed out however, which allowed the Lakers come down and score on a drive by who else...Sortino. He was fouled on the play and he hit the free throw to stop the bleeding and make it a 72-65 3 possession lead with 1:53 remaining. That breathing room didn't last long as Oneonta fought back to make it 72-70 on a free throw from Lawrence Coleman, a jumper from McElroy, and a layup from Coleman but time was short and Oneonta had to foul with 13 seconds left. It was a touch of irony that the guy going to the line for the clinching free throws, was a member of the Red Dragons last year. Ian Schupp, who originally played for the Lakers, left, and came back home this year, made both freebies to salt away the championship for Oswego. Oneonta missed their last attempt from the field, went to the line and missed both free throws, with 6 seconds on the clock. Sortino was fouled and he made 1 of 2 for the final points of the game. A valiant comeback effort by the Red Dragons but they just ran out of time. And frankly, the way the Lakers played all weekend, I don't think more time on the clock would have made a difference.

The Lakers
Brian Sortino, most likely the SUNYAC Player of the Year, had 27 points to once again lead all scorers. He added 4 rebounds and 5 assists, along with the Most Valuable Player award of the SUNYAC Tournament. His 48 points the night before against Buffalo State set a Max Ziel Gymnasium record and he was just a point away from tying the highest scoring game in program history. He has been a pleasure (and a pain) to watch over the past 4 years and I wish him well.

Ian Schupp had 22 points, 7 rebounds and 1 assist. Schupp and Sortino combined for 8 of the team's 9 three pointers (4 each) and was a major reason the Lakers walked off the court with the championship trophy. Oneonta was only 4x16 from long range.

Tyler Pierre was a beast off the glass as he had a game high 15 rebounds to go along with his 7 points, 1 assist and a steal. He came off the bench and saw 17 minutes of court time.

Jamir Ferebee had 7 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.

Keith Tyson had 6 points, 9 boards and a steal.

Mykelle Krecko had 4 points, 8 rebounds and 1 assist.


The Red Dragons
Lawrence Coleman had 23 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, a block and a steal.

Mikey McElroy had 19 points, 6 rebounds and a block.

Frankie Kelly, had 13 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals.

Dwayne Freeman had 6 points and 4 rebounds.

Ian Schultz had 4 points, a team high 9 rebounds, a block and a steal.

Jack Kolosky had 4 points, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks.


Oswego improves their record to 21-6 and will wait for the NCAA's selection show on Monday at 12:30 to find out who their next opponent will be. I hope they get to host a 4 team pod on the first weekend. I'm pretty sure Rochester will host and possibly St. John Fisher may get sent there. If Brockport gets a bid (they're on the bubble) they may go to Rochester as well. Union could go to Oswego and then there's St. Lawrence and possibly Skidmore. I'm not sure if the Liberty League would get 3 bids. I know the SUNYAC won't. And the YAC may not get 2 but I have my fingers crossed that Brockport gets one. There will be lots of fingers crossed in Brockport on Monday around lunchtime.

Oneonta's season comes to an end with a 17-11 record. I don't know if they intend to play in the ECAC tournament.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2017, 04:01:52 PM
The SUNYAC will hand out the Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Coach of the Year and All Conference teams shortly. Here's who I think they may have on the short list.

Player of the Year   Brian Sortino  Oswego State
Really a no brainer. He could have been Player of the Year as a sophomore or junior and probably wouldn't have been much of an argument if he had

Coach of the Year  Cameron Conover Oneonta
I'm leaning toward Coach Conover because it was his first year as a head coach and his team did well finishing in 3rd place. Making the championship game was an added bonus. I don't think anyone had the Red Dragons finishing that high in the standings or playing for all the marbles. If they did, it was a different variety of Red Dragons they were thinking of. It won't surprise me if Coach Jason Leone gets the award because the victors usually get the spoils and it was his 3rd SUNYAC crown in 6 years. Either coach is deserving of this award.

Rookie of the Year Danny Delsol-Lowry  Potsdam State
Danny a 6'1" freshman started all 25 games as the point guard for the Bears and handled that job as if he was a college veteran. He scored 228 points for the season which was an average of 9.1 ppg,  and was 4th on the team in scoring. His 5.4 rpg led the team in rebounding. He also led the team with 66 assists, 36 steals and minutes per game with 27.8. He leads every rookie in the conference in just about all these categories if not all of them.
The other top rookies this year to make my all rookie team.
Justin Summers   Brockport State  Forward
Kevin Mackin        Oneonta State    Guard
Tommy Eastman  Geneseo State    Guard
Nick Arthur          New Paltz State   Forward

All Conference in alphabetical order by team
Clifton Lyerly            Brockport State  Guard
Hamed Shamseldin  Brockport State  Guard
DevonnGavin            Brockport State  Guard
Lovell Smith             Buffalo State       Guard
Mike Henry               Buffalo State      Guard
Justin Cooper           Cortland State    Guard
James Morales         Cortland State     Guard
Ian Helps                 Fredonia State    Forward
Justin Ringen           Geneseo State     Guard
John Decker            Geneseo State      Guard
Andrew Seniuk        New Paltz St.       Forward
Lawrence Coleman  Oneonta State      Forward
Mikey McElroy         Oneonta State      Forward
Frankie Kelly           Oneonta State      Guard
Brian Sortino          Oswego State       Guard
Jamir Ferebee         Oswego State      Forward
Mykelle Krecko        Oswego State     
Jon Patron              Plattsburgh St.     Forward
Eli Bryant               Plattsburgh St.     Guard
Nosa Onabor          Potsdam State      Guard
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2017, 06:41:57 AM
Hoopsville did their mock projection last evening of the 21 Pool C bids that they think will be awarded later today. Here's the link to their complete list: http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4232.7125

They have Rochester 21-4, as the 4th Pool C selection, Skidmore 19-7, the 14th selection and St. Lawrence 20-6 as the 15th selection.

Brockport with a 19-7 record became the next team from the East region at the table after St. Lawrence was chosen. They sat at the table for the final 6 rounds and were never selected in this projection. Brockport lost out to Skidmore and St. Lawrence because those teams were ranked ahead of the Golden Eagles in the final Regional Rankings that Hoopsville had received yesterday.

Defending National Champion St.Thomas also had a 19-7 record and they were at the table at the same time Brockport was and they don't have them getting a bid either. In fact St. Thomas was at the table for 14 rounds as they were the 2nd ranked team from the West region. Whitworth from the West was selected in the 7th round and the Tommies took their seat. They never left the table as the West only got 1 Pool C bid in this projection.

We have to hope the NCAA selection committee uses slightly different logic than the Hoopsville crew did or the SUNYAC will only have 1 team in the tournament this weekend. I don't think that will happen. The SUNYAC got hurt when Skidmore or St. Lawrence didn't win the Liberty League and when Rochester lost the AQ from the UAA conference to Washington U. 

Brockport also didn't help their own cause when they failed to win a playoff game and get to 20 wins. 

They show 5 teams from the NESCAC getting bids. Middlebury won the AQ and Tufts, Williams, Wesleyan and Amherst get Pool C bids.

They have 7 teams out of 21 selections coming out of the Northeast region. Babson losing yesterday popped someone's bubble.  That leaves 14 picks left for the other 7 regions. They have the East region getting 3 picks. I don't think it's possible we can get a 4th pick from our region. 

It sure looks like the YAC only has 1 bid this year. That's why I wanted Oneonta to win against Oswego yesterday. I thought that was the only way we could get a 2nd team dancing.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
SUNYAC gets 1 f**king bid and Liberty league gets 3??   Some one wake me up when October 15th gets


GOOD LUCk OSWEGO.. Carry the YAC Banner. Here's to hoping that you crush every (fill in the blank)  there is on your way to Salem!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on February 27, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
SUNYAC gets 1 f**king bid and Liberty league gets 3??   Some one wake me up when October 15th gets


GOOD LUCk OSWEGO.. Carry the YAC Banner. Here's to hoping that you crush every (fill in the blank)  there is on your way to Salem!!

I'm not too surprised. The chance for a 2nd was lost when Oswego won the conference tourney and Brockport lost to Oneonta. Liberty League had a surprise champion did they not? (I'm just catching up here).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2017, 03:06:08 PM

Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
SUNYAC gets 1 f**king bid and Liberty league gets 3??   Some one wake me up when October 15th gets


GOOD LUCk OSWEGO.. Carry the YAC Banner. Here's to hoping that you crush every (fill in the blank)  there is on your way to Salem!!

I been telling you for over a month that possibility was out there. Why so shocked? ??? If the SUNYAC AD's allowed the top 8 teams in the conference to participate in the playoffs, like they used to, then there's a good chance that Brockport would have gotten to 20 wins because they would have won a first round game against the #7 seed. 20 wins would have given them a Pool C bid I believe. When the AD's voted to only allow the top 6 seeds in the YAC tournament they didn't help our chances of getting a 2nd bid, they hurt our chances. Somehow they still haven't figured that out. ::)

Thought that Oswego might host a pod but they put both of the two New York hosting sites basically in Rochester.  St. John Fisher was ranked higher in the regional rankings than the Lakers were, so they got to host. Rochester University, the #1 team in the East region is the other host.

Lakers traveling to Williams to face Scranton and most likely Williams if they win their game against the Royals. Scranton and Oswego with identical 21-6 records. Should be a good game.

pg04,
Yes a surprise in the Liberty League as the 3rd seed Union won the AQ. That cost us a bid I believe.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2017, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
SUNYAC gets 1 f**king bid and Liberty league gets 3??   Some one wake me up when October 15th gets


GOOD LUCk OSWEGO.. Carry the YAC Banner. Here's to hoping that you crush every (fill in the blank)  there is on your way to Salem!!

I'm not too surprised. The chance for a 2nd was lost when Oswego won the conference tourney and Brockport lost to Oneonta. Liberty League had a surprise champion did they not? (I'm just catching up here).

So it doesn't seem strange that Brockport, who beat St Lawrence, and lost in the semi (as did St. lawrence) didn't get in ahead of St lawrence?? 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 27, 2017, 08:02:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2017, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: pg04 on February 27, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on February 27, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
SUNYAC gets 1 f**king bid and Liberty league gets 3??   Some one wake me up when October 15th gets


GOOD LUCk OSWEGO.. Carry the YAC Banner. Here's to hoping that you crush every (fill in the blank)  there is on your way to Salem!!

I'm not too surprised. The chance for a 2nd was lost when Oswego won the conference tourney and Brockport lost to Oneonta. Liberty League had a surprise champion did they not? (I'm just catching up here).

So it doesn't seem strange that Brockport, who beat St Lawrence, and lost in the semi (as did St. lawrence) didn't get in ahead of St lawrence??

I thought St. Lawrence had a considerably better resume than Brockport, but evidently the committee disagreed.  They picked St. Lawrence 2nd to last and Cabrini last - which means they took St. Thomas earlier and  I thought Brockport and St. Thomas were near identical resumes.  It all goes to show you its a crap shoot near the end.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on February 27, 2017, 08:24:26 PM
SLU beat Oswego in Oswego, something Brockport didn't do.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 27, 2017, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: stlawus on February 27, 2017, 08:24:26 PM
SLU beat Oswego in Oswego, something Brockport didn't do.

Head to head is really only going to matter if the resumes are very, very close - like Skidmore over SLU.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2017, 09:24:20 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 27, 2017, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: stlawus on February 27, 2017, 08:24:26 PM
SLU beat Oswego in Oswego, something Brockport didn't do.

Head to head is really only going to matter if the resumes are very, very close - like Skidmore over SLU.

Beating them twice, as Skidmore did to the Saints, matters, I'm sure. Hard for a committee member to put that out of their minds. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 27, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Magic,
   What does one(Scranton) have to do to defeat Oswego?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Magic,
   What does one(Scranton) have to do to defeat Oswego?

Stopping Brian Sortino would be a big help... but almost no one has found a way to do that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 28, 2017, 02:02:51 AM
Here's a fancier version of the region Oswego is in.  ;D  The times may not be entirely accurate.  Good luck to the Lakers!
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/688/33035987251_f3f02085df_c.jpg)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Magic,
   What does one(Scranton) have to do to defeat Oswego?

Stopping Brian Sortino would be a big help... but almost no one has found a way to do that.

ronk,
If I knew the answer to that question I would have told Plattsburgh's Coach Curle 2 years ago. As Dave states, stopping Sortino would probably do it. Easier said than done. You could always call up Tonya Harding's crew to see if they want a new job. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NEPAFAN on February 28, 2017, 08:02:28 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Magic,
   What does one(Scranton) have to do to defeat Oswego?

Stopping Brian Sortino would be a big help... but almost no one has found a way to do that.

ronk,
If I knew the answer to that question I would have told Plattsburgh's Coach Curle 2 years ago. As Dave states, stopping Sortino would probably do it. Easier said than done. You could always call up Tonya Harding's crew to see if they want a new job. :D

What kind of inside presence do they have? Scranton is pretty big at least in landmark terms and goes 6'9, 6'7 at the 4 and 5.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2017, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on February 28, 2017, 08:02:28 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Magic,
   What does one(Scranton) have to do to defeat Oswego?

Stopping Brian Sortino would be a big help... but almost no one has found a way to do that.

ronk,
If I knew the answer to that question I would have told Plattsburgh's Coach Curle 2 years ago. As Dave states, stopping Sortino would probably do it. Easier said than done. You could always call up Tonya Harding's crew to see if they want a new job. :D

What kind of inside presence do they have? Scranton is pretty big at least in landmark terms and goes 6'9, 6'7 at the 4 and 5.

Oswego has a 6'10" starting center, but perhaps more difficult for Scranton is that they've got plenty of size on the bench they can throw at Viktus to beat him up a bit.  It's going to be the big, skilled bigs of Scranton vs the big physical bigs of Oswego... oh yeah, and one of the best scoring point guards in the country.  My money's on Oswego.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: NEPAFAN on February 28, 2017, 09:46:30 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2017, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on February 28, 2017, 08:02:28 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Magic,
   What does one(Scranton) have to do to defeat Oswego?

Stopping Brian Sortino would be a big help... but almost no one has found a way to do that.

ronk,
If I knew the answer to that question I would have told Plattsburgh's Coach Curle 2 years ago. As Dave states, stopping Sortino would probably do it. Easier said than done. You could always call up Tonya Harding's crew to see if they want a new job. :D

What kind of inside presence do they have? Scranton is pretty big at least in landmark terms and goes 6'9, 6'7 at the 4 and 5.

Oswego has a 6'10" starting center, but perhaps more difficult for Scranton is that they've got plenty of size on the bench they can throw at Viktus to beat him up a bit.  It's going to be the big, skilled bigs of Scranton vs the big physical bigs of Oswego... oh yeah, and one of the best scoring point guards in the country.  My money's on Oswego.

Hey , you aren't supposed to reveal your picks until Friday. I am glad they don't appear to be the athletic team that gives Scranton fits, ie Neumann.  Hopefully Coach Danzig is drawing something up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2017, 10:15:17 AM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on February 28, 2017, 09:46:30 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2017, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on February 28, 2017, 08:02:28 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2017, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Magic,
   What does one(Scranton) have to do to defeat Oswego?

Stopping Brian Sortino would be a big help... but almost no one has found a way to do that.

ronk,
If I knew the answer to that question I would have told Plattsburgh's Coach Curle 2 years ago. As Dave states, stopping Sortino would probably do it. Easier said than done. You could always call up Tonya Harding's crew to see if they want a new job. :D

What kind of inside presence do they have? Scranton is pretty big at least in landmark terms and goes 6'9, 6'7 at the 4 and 5.

Oswego has a 6'10" starting center, but perhaps more difficult for Scranton is that they've got plenty of size on the bench they can throw at Viktus to beat him up a bit.  It's going to be the big, skilled bigs of Scranton vs the big physical bigs of Oswego... oh yeah, and one of the best scoring point guards in the country.  My money's on Oswego.

Hey , you aren't supposed to reveal your picks until Friday. I am glad they don't appear to be the athletic team that gives Scranton fits, ie Neumann.  Hopefully Coach Danzig is drawing something up.

Well, I'm writing the tourney preview this year, so my picks might be public tonight, if I get it done by then.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 28, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
Yeah... Oswego is going to be far more physical with Scranton than they see in the Landmark. It is going to be like playing a Midwest or Great Lakes team.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
The SUNYAC Season Awards have been released. Here are the results.

Feb 27, 2017
CORTLAND, NY – The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) is proud to recognize and award the 2017 men's basketball Player of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Coach of the Year and the All-Conference teams. All awards were voted on by the SUNYAC men's basketball conference coaches.

Player of the Year
Brian Sortino (Fairport, NY / Fairport) from Oswego was awarded Player of the Year. Kevin Mackin (Nanuet, NY / Nanuet ) from Oneonta was awarded Rookie of the Year, and Oswego's Jason Leone was voted Coach of the Year.

Sortino was named the 2017 Player of the Year after helping the Lakers to an overall 21-6 record and 15-3 in the conference. Sortino led the Lakers to their third SUNYAC title in the past 6 years with his most outstanding performance coming in the semifinals against Buffalo State where he scored 48 points in the overtime victory. On the season he finished third in the conference in points per game (20.4), second in three pointers (54), third in free throws (81) and third in assists (80). Sortino looks to continue his success on the court as the Lakers move on to the NCAA Division III tournament.

Rookie of the Year
Oneonta's Kevin Mackin was named the 2017 Rookie of the Year after helping the Red Dragons to a 17-11 overall record and 12-6 in the conference. Mackin finished his freshman season with 7 points per game and a 44.9 field goal percentage. He finished the conference season with 27 three pointers which was good for 18th in the conference. Mackin's highlight of the season was on February 10th during a home contest against Geneseo where he scored a career high of 22 points.

Coach of the Year
Coach Leone led the Lakers to their seventh overall conference title and his third as the Lakers head coach. In his sixth year, Leone earns SUNYAC Coach of the Year honors for the third time. Oswego is 21-6 overall and will move on to the NCAA Division III tournament.

2017 SUNYAC Men's Basketball All-Conference Teams
               
First Team               
Name   School   Position   Year   Hometown
Lovell Smith   Buffalo State   G   Sr.   Buffalo, NY / McKinley
Justin Cooper   Cortland   G   So.    Pine Plains, NY / Stissing Mountain
Lawrence Coleman   Oneonta   F   Sr.    Croton on the Hudson, NY / Hendrick Hudson
Mikey McElroy   Oneonta   F   Sr.   Saratoga Springs, NY / Saratoga Springs
Brian Sortino   Oswego   G   Sr.    Fairport, NY / Fairport
               
Second Team               
Name   School   Position   Year   Hometown
Mike Henry   Buffalo State   G   Jr.    Syracuse, NY / West Genesee
Clifton Lyerly   Brockport   F   Sr.    Inwood, NY/ Lawrence
Hamed Shamseldin   Brockport   G   Jr.    Lawrence, NY / Lawrence
John Decker   Geneseo   G   Sr.    Lincolndale, NY / Somers
Jonathan Patron   Plattsburgh   F   So.    Huntington, NY / Harborfields
               
Third Team               
Name   School   Position   Year   Hometown
James Morales   Cortland   G   Jr.    Mount Kisco, NY / Fox Lane
Ian Helps   Fredonia   F   Jr.    Bronx, NY / Greater New York Academy
Justin Ringen   Geneseo   G   Sr.    Huntington, NY / Harborfields
Mykelle Krecko   Oswego   C   Sr.   Peekskill, NY / Peekskill
Keith Tyson   Oswego   F   Sr.    Syracuse, NY / Henniger
               
Player of the Year   Brian Sortino   Oswego       
Rookie of the Year   Kevin Mackin   Oneonta       
Coach of the Year   Jason Leone   Oswego

Congratulations to all those that were honored. They were all certainly deserving of their awards.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2017, 12:51:39 PM
Article on the front page featuring Oswego State. Here's the link:

http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2017/oswego-trying-take-next-step
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
Oswego State leads Scranton by a 35-22 score at the half.
Keith  Tyson with 11 points.
Brian Sortino with 10 points
Jamir Ferebee with 10 points
Mykelle Krecko with only 2 points but has 11 boards.

I drafted Sortino on my main Fantasy team.

I have Ferebee, Krecko, and Tyson on my free agent fantasy team. 
Title: Re: MBB: State U niversity of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2017, 07:16:47 PM
Oswego gives up a 19 point 2nd half lead and Scranton takes a 3 point lead with 1:42 left to play. Sortino gets a steal and a layup to tie the game at 70. Scranton misses on their end and Oswego gets the fnal shot, but misses it and they head to overtime.

Lakers lose in overtime as they play catch up from the first possession of the extra session. Tied at 72 the Lakers give up a jumper on Scrantons next possession and then turn the ball over when they need to score and draw even. The refs could have called a foul on the play causing the turnover but elected not to. Then on Scranton's end they call a foul on Mykelle Krecko who was guarding the Royal's big man, John Vitkus. Again it appeared to be pretty good defense on the play by Krecko and it was his 5th foul sending him to the bench. That was the turning point. Vitus made both free throws, the Royals had a 4 point lead and without Krecko's presence inside, Oswego couldn't catch up. The Royals made their free throws down the stretch and come away with an 82-77 win.

Brian Sortino led all scorers with 27 points. Keith Tyson had 17 points and 7 rebounds. Jamir Ferebee had 13 points and 5 rebounds. Ian Schupp had 12 points.

Mykelle Krecko had 8 points and a game high 17 rebounds.

Congratulations to the Lakers on a fine season. Wish you were still playing on.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on March 06, 2017, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 03, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
Oswego State leads Scranton by a 35-22 score at the half.
Keith  Tyson with 11 points.
Brian Sortino with 10 points
Jamir Ferebee with 10 points
Mykelle Krecko with only 2 points but has 11 boards.

I drafted Sortino on my main Fantasy team.

I have Ferebee, Krecko, and Tyson on my free agent fantasy team.

I put Sortino on my Tremendous 12 league, hoping some good Karma for the Lakers but no such luck. I also didn't use him in round 1 in the one and done, hoping he'd make it at least to Round 2.

Too bad the SUNYAC out in round 1.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 06, 2017, 12:53:23 PM

If he'd gotten just one more game, Sortino would've topped 2000 points for his career.  1991 is still pretty darn good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on March 07, 2017, 10:25:51 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 06, 2017, 12:53:23 PM

If he'd gotten just one more game, Sortino would've topped 2000 points for his career.  1991 is still pretty darn good.
Im sure we will be seeing him in Salem, no??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on March 08, 2017, 03:02:54 PM
Love to see that New Paltz and Geneseo are in the Ladies sweet 16.

Great Job by these 2 SUNYAC teams. :)

Let's GOOOOO

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2017, 03:13:31 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 07, 2017, 10:25:51 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 06, 2017, 12:53:23 PM

If he'd gotten just one more game, Sortino would've topped 2000 points for his career.  1991 is still pretty darn good.
Im sure we will be seeing him in Salem, no??

No doubt, but those won't count for his career total. Maybe we could make an exception!  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2017, 06:24:58 AM
D3hoops has posted their All Region Teams.

Brian Sortino Oswego State was a first team selection

Lovell Smith Buffalo State was a 3rd  team selection

Mikey McElroy Oneonta State was a 3rd team selection.

Congratulations to all.

Here's a link to the complete All East Region Team:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2016-17/east-men


Here's a link that will get you to all of the other regional teams:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2016-17/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2017, 03:05:01 PM
The National Association of Basketball Coaches released their All-District Teams on Wednesday March 15th.

Brian Sortino from Oswego State was chosen to the East District First Team and was recognized as the East District Player of the Year.   No surprise there as he was one of the top players in the country.

Mikey McElroy from Oneonta State was chosen to the East District Second Team.   Also a well deserved honor for Oneonta's all time leading scorer.

Congratulations to all the players who were honored.

Here's a link to the complete list of NABC All-District Teams:

http://nabc.com/NABC_Releases/2017/PDF/2017_NABC_Coaches-_Division_III_All-District_Teams_and_Coaches.pdf

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2017, 03:20:38 PM
The NABC released their All-American Teams on Thursday, March 16th.

The East Region players that were honored are:

Brian Sortino of Oswego State was named to the First Team

Aldin Medunjanin of Skidmore was named to the Second Team

Sam Borst-Smith of Rochester was named to the Third Team.

Congratulations to all those receiving this high honor, the culmination of years of hard work and sacrifice.

Here's a link to the complete All-American teams:

http://nabc.com/awards/all_america/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 20, 2017, 01:21:01 AM
D3hoops released their All American Teams on Saturday at the Final Four site of Salem Virginia.

Here are the East Region players that made the list.

Sam Borst-Smith  Rochester  Second Team

Brian Sortino  Oswego State  Third Team

Aldin Medunjanin  Skidmore   Honorable Mention

Here's the link to the complete D3hoops list of All Americans:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/2017


Congratulations to all.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 20, 2017, 01:25:12 AM
Not basketball related but certainly of interest to SUNYAC followers.

The Plattsburgh State Cardinals Women's Hockey Team won their 4th straight National Championship on Saturday as they defeated Adrian College in Adrian, Michigan by a 4-3 final score in overtime.

The Lady Cards were down 3-2 with 25 seconds left in the game and skating shorthanded as Adrian was on the powerplay. The Cardinal's goaltender was on her way to the bench for an extra attacker, when Senior Defenseman Julia Duquette, scored her only goal of the season with 21 seconds to play in regulation. In overtime Senior Defenseman and team Captain, Erin Brand, scored after 10:34 had gone by to give the Cardinals their 4th straight Walnut and Bronze. It was the Plattsburgh Women's 6th National Championship.
Interesting that both the tying goal and gamewinner were scored by defensemen.
Just like in basketball...defense wins games. ;D

Plattsburgh's graduating seniors finished their career with a 111-5-4 record. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 17, 2017, 01:57:00 PM
D-3 in the news.
Here is the vacation home of a Fredonia State alumna.  Very sad.   :(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4989048/Glass-house-mansion-cost-17m-build-destroyed-fires.html
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 18, 2017, 11:24:08 PM
Breaking the SUNYAC ice for 2017-18 season!  Lot of new faces in many of the same old places!  Should be an interesting year!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on October 26, 2017, 12:14:01 PM
Bengalsrule,
The kick off to the season doesn't start without the Magicman.
Where are you Magicman?
Polishing up your Magic Wand? ;)
Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Looking forward to hearing from All the SUNYAC Crazies.
Yes, a lot of new faces in the SUNYAC.
Should be an interesting year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 29, 2017, 01:42:52 AM
Quote from: All-Time on October 26, 2017, 12:14:01 PM
Bengalsrule,
The kick off to the season doesn't start without the Magicman.
Where are you Magicman?
Polishing up your Magic Wand? ;)
Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Looking forward to hearing from All the SUNYAC Crazies.
Yes, a lot of new faces in the SUNYAC.
Should be an interesting year.

Trust me my friend.  The Magic 1 is preparing one heck of a opening salvo !  New faces will be key in many places.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 10, 2017, 12:00:37 PM
The season is about to begin and still no word from the MAGICMAN
I'm starting to get concerned ??? ???
I hope everything is ok with him.
I certainly miss his posts, it's been way too long.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2017, 11:50:55 PM
The magicman has been through a rough summer and fall. Things are slowly coming round but there have been many changes in my life and I'm still dealing with a few things...but never fear I have a reputation to uphold and I will have my prognostications up before the first game night. I've been told there are a few coaches checking up on me and I just want to reassure everyone that has inquired that I will be back for another season. Thanks for all the support.  ;) I also have been waiting for team rosters to be posted as some schools weren't in any hurry to get that done. (Including a certain team that has a bird for a mascot and wears red and white uniforms.)

I intend to do some of my homework tonight, if I can stay awake.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2017, 12:34:42 AM
D3hoops has released their preseason All-America Teams.

With the graduation of Kyle Richardson from Plattsburgh State 2 years ago and Brian Sortino from Oswego State this past year the SUNYAC has no representatives on the D3hoops preseason All-America Teams.

Hopefully the one that matters at the end of the season will have a representative from the YAC on board once again, to keep our streak alive. We have had a player from our conference make the D3hoops All-America Team for the last 6 years in a row. Here's a list of all the SUNYAC players that have been D3hoops All-Americans since this website started announcing their teams back in 1997-1998.

2017- Brian Sortino 3rd team Oswego State
2016- Kyle Richardson 2nd team Plattsburgh State, Brian Sortino 3rd team Oswego State
2015- Gordon Lyons 2nd team Geneseo State
2014- John Ivy 2nd team Brockport State
2013- Hayden Ward 2nd team Oswego State
2012- Chad Burridge Honorable Mention Oswego State
2008- Anthony Williams 2nd team Plattsburgh State
2007- Sherod Harris Honorable Mention Brockport State
2001- Tom Williams 4th team Cortland State

Nine players have made ten teams with Brian Sortino the only one to have made it twice.

Here is the link to this year's preseason All-America teams:
http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2018

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 12, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Hope everything is OK, magicman. I'm making an effort to visit other boards this year, mostly to improve my overall knowledge for fantasy leagues!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2017, 11:58:12 AM
People Get Ready....What time is it???  It's SUNYAC TIME

And eagle eyed viewers will note that the color red was used in that salutation!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2017, 03:04:53 PM
  Well today is the DAY!!   SUNYAC 2017 edition gets started.  Not 1 for game predictions (ill leave that to the more "seasoned" veterans of these boards), however a quick look at the rosters reveals 1 thing. The PLATTSBURGH Cards are loaded! Which explains why the Magicman has been so quiet ( because he's been gushing over the abundance of riches that will appear on campus at 101 Broad street). 12 returning members including their top 9 scorers!!!!!!   I can't figure out how they just got 7 votes in the "others receiving votes" category!  I guess that's gonna be Keene States problem Saturday...and the SUNYACs problem later.

   Oswego isn't too far behind with 10 returning players although then entire conference should breathe a sigh of relief when they realize that Brian Sortino is not 1 of those 10 returning players!  Ditto for Geneseo who also has 10 players returning ( although it warms the heart not to see either Justin Ringen or John Decker as 1 of those 10). I have no doubt that the knights will still have sharp shooters galore on their roster! Brockport looks to have a good nucleus of players (8) returning and Oneonta looks like Cam has done some serious recruiting along with keeping 6 seasoned veterans. Cortland returns 1st team All - Sunyac Justin Cooper plus mountain men Zach Lydon (6' 9) and Carrel Joseph (6' 6 ) along with 5 other veterans so expect big things from Team Spanbauer.

  Fredonia returns Ian Help (who does almost everything) and Dante Williams (who does what Ian doesn't). I'm expecting big things from Phil Seymours boys in Chautauqua county! New Paltz is under a new coach (and still has Nick Paquette and Dylan Balducci) and Potsdam's 2nd year coach, Jim Becthel,  still has Dante Langley and Nosa Onabor returning so anything is possible at Potsdam.

My beloved BENGALS lost plenty of firepower ( 4 starters graduated) and look like there is plenty work to to be done at 1300 Elmwood to get ready for the rough and tumble SUNYAC schedule. 1 thing that I know for sure...coach Fajri Ansari will have a tough and athletic team ready when "live bullets" start flying Friday night!

Here's to hoping that all of the SUNYAC teams sweep their non-conference opponents. Right now Massey has the SUNYAC ranked 15th Out of 47 conferences ( 48 if you include the div 3 independents). Any possibility of moving up will have to be based in large part on what we do against Non SUNYAC teams. Once we start beating up on each other then ......

Good luck to Fredonia at Penn State Behrend, Oneonta at Keystone (enjoy All-Time) and Cortland hosting Ithaca in their annual "Cortaca" matchup!  Something tells me that someone else will come with predictions for those game.. ( maybe 2 "someone else" in fact).

Lets go SUNYAC BROCKPORT.....BUFFALO STATE....CORTLAND...FREDONIA...GENESEO...NEW PALTZ...ONEONTA...OSWEGO...PLATTSBURGH...POTSDAM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 15, 2017, 04:20:03 PM
Let The Games Begin. ;D
I expect the Sunyac teams to come out roaring tonight.
Love Fredonia, Cortland and my Red Dragons to sweep.
Enjoy the games


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends... to steal a phrase from Emerson, Lake and Palmer. For all you young ballers out there that have never heard of Emerson Lake and Palmer here's a clip from their 1970 hit single Lucky Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn_1d_DUE08

There will be a Lucky Man come Saturday evening,  February 24th when a YAC coach gets to hold the trophy that signifies the winner of the Conference Tournament. Who will that be? Will it be Coach Dunne from Brockport, or will Coach Leone from the Oswego Lakers get to hoist it once again. Coach Spanbauer likes his chances, but probably won't tell you that he does. And what about Coach Curle who missed the playoffs completely last year in somewhat of a shocker. (I know I was shocked even if he wasn't) Will the Cardinals be able to turn things around and get back to the playoffs?

How will 2nd year head coach Cameron Conover follow up his successful debut as he led the Oneonta Red Dragons to the championship game of the SUNYAC, against Oswego and came within a whisker of winning the big prize as they trailed the Lakers 72-70 with 16 seconds left in the game. The Lakers hit their free throws to win 75-70 but Oneonta proved they belonged in the big game. Now Coach Conover is faced with the loss of the Red Dragons scoring triumvirate of Frankie Kelly, Lawrence Coleman, and all time scoring leader, Mikey McElroy. Losing any one of those players hurts, but losing all 3 in a single year  certainly makes one wonder where the offense that was ranked  #1 in the YAC and 28th in the country will come from this year.

Where does Buffalo State fit into the picture. They lost 4 of their 5 double digit scorers from last year. They do have Mike Henry back and if you're going to get just one of your starters back, he's a good one to get. But there are 10 new faces on the 15 player roster. They brought in several new big men, a 6'7" freshman and a 6'8" sophomore, but they are unknown factors at the present time. I think Coach Ansari and the rest of the Bengal staff may be in for a long cold winter. With 7 freshman on the team it has "a rebuilding year" written all over it. But there's a lot of talent in the Queen City area and I'm sure the Bengals coaching staff went out and found some players. How soon can this team come together will be the question. 

Geneseo suffered some big losses as well with the departure of Justin Ringen, John Decker and Jack Eisenberg...3 starters that accounted for nearly 60% of their offense. Coach Minton will be working overtime to get the Knights up to speed. Senior guard Kevin Crockett is the only returning double digit scorer and he will get help from  junior big man Jack Manke and sophmore guard Tommy Eastman who showed promise last year as a freshman scoring 175 points and grabbing nearly 4 rpg while averaging 19 minutes of floor time per game.  The Knights do return 6 players that averaged double digit minutes last year but they need to figure out where the offense will come from and who the go to guys will be. A problem they haven't had for the last few years.

Fredonia almost made the playoffs last season and they did manage to win 3 games against some of the better teams in the conference. Most impressive was their win over conference champion Oswego, and road wins in Plattsburgh and Geneseo. The big question is can they ratchet those results up a notch and make the playoffs? They return their main offensive weapon in big man Ian Helps who returns for his senior season but they lost 3 starters and 5 players that gave them double digit minutes. Freshman big man 6'7" Jonathan McDonald could be a bright spot among the new recruits. He had 10 points and 8 boards against DI Fordham in an exhibition game 2 weeks ago. Returning guard Dante Williams figures to be an important part of the Blue Devils offense as he averaged nearly double figures last season and almost 6 boards a game. They will be a work in progress until they figure out where the offense will come from. They lost more than half of their point production and Helps will need all the help he can get as other teams will certainly key on him when Fredonia has the ball. Coach Phil Seymour is beginning his 5th year as the Blue Devils coach and last year's 10 wins represent the most under his direction. The 7 conference wins was also a high water mark. He'd like to get over the hump and have his first winning season but I think the odds are against him. I think he 'll come closer but 11 or 12 wins are where I see the Blue Devls peaking this season. But I won't mind if the team makes me eat those words. I'd love for all the YAC teams to have a winning record. 

What's going on in Potsdam? My alma mater has certainly fallen on hard times over the past 8 years where they have a won-lost record of 38-162. That's a average of less than 5 wins per year and over 20 losses per season. They won 3 games last year which was 2 more than they did the year before. It was Coach Jim Bechtel's first season at the helm and he brought in lots of new faces. The good news is most of those new faces have returned for another go around. 11 guys returned off a roster of 14 that started the 2016-17 season. Plus he brought in another large recruiting class of 6 freshman so the numbers are there and hopefully so is the talent. The coach did an excellent job of recruiting when he was at his last stop as the head man at SUNY-Canton. He had his work cut out for him at Potsdam (and still does)and the program needs to make some more gains this year. It will be interesting to see if the Bears can take a step forward this year. I think they will but I don't see them making the playoffs, unfortunately, but I'm more than willing to be proven wrong...are you listening Coach?...Please prove me wrong! I've suffered long enough.

That brings us to New Paltz and what the Hawks can do to improve upon a winless SUNYAC campaign of  a year ago. They can only improve upon that 1-23 mark. They lost 5 games by 6 points or less and the one game they did win was against their 2nd toughest non-conference opponent...Springfield College.

New head coach Keith Kenny certainly knows how to play the game as he scored nearly 2000 points in his 4 year college career at Cobleskill and then New Paltz (actually 1918 points). He was a two time SUNYAC All Conference 1st team selection and has the 5th highest scoring average in SUNYAC history (20.5 ppg).  He scored almost a thousand points at both colleges in only 2 years at each school. That's one heck of an accomplishment. 

What appears to be a bright spot for the Hawks is Kevin Coyle, a 6'4" guard/forward. Coyle only played in 2 games last year, but is listed on the current roster. He opened up with 26 points against Vassar College and only saw action in the next game. The Hawks also return 7 of their top 10 rotation players that each saw action of at least 10 minutes per game. They lost leading scorer Andrew Seniuk but will get the services of Dylan Balducci and Nick Paquette, their two main 3 point shooters, to fire up shots from behind the arc. Also back after a year's absence is 6'5" forward Brandon Guest who averaged 8.4 ppg and 5.9 rpg in the 2015-16 season. With his availability and the return of Coyle perhaps the Hawks will be able to generate some offense and get some much needed help off the glass. New recruits were 4 freshman guards who have some solid high school credentials and may get some playing time early on. I think the Hawks and Coach Kenny will improve considerably upon last year's misfortunes. The improved play of both the Hawks and Potsdam will help out the strength of our conference as they have held us down for the past few seasons. 

I think the contenders this year are the schools I mentioned in my 2nd paragraph. Brockport, Cortland Oswego and Plattsburgh, not necessarily in that order. One of these schools will win the crown and the other 3 will come in 2nd 3rd and 4th. Tomorrow or later tonight if I have time, after I attend the Cardinal's Red and White scrimmage at 6 PM, I'll make my picks and talk more about these 4 teams.

Geneseo, Oneonta, Buffalo State are the pretenders. They are in the playoff mix but I don't see any of them winning the YAC championship this year. One of them will miss the playoffs like the Cardinals were the odd man out last year.

Once again I see Fredonia, Potsdam, and New Paltz bringing up the rear of the conference, again not necessarily in that order, just that they will occupy the last 3 spots.  But all three could surprise and have different reasons for doing so. I've been a follower of this conference for over 52 years and I've seen plenty of surprises over the years. Surprises that many of the current group of coaches weren't even born yet to witness.

Time for some predictions on tonight's games. Back in a few minutes.

   
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2017, 04:57:33 PM
Very well done magicman,
If only someone would do the same prognostication for the E8!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2017, 04:57:33 PM
Very well done magicman,
If only someone would do the same prognostication for the E8!

Thanks, fisheralum91. There was a time when I did considerable posting over on the E8 board and the Liberty League board as well but then there were considerably more posters on those boards to enjoy a give and take with. They have been rather quiet for the past few years. maybe they will come back a bit this year as Fisher is supposed to do well.  You may see me over there from time to time. Certainly glad to see you over here!!  8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2017, 05:39:35 PM
Three games on the schedule to open up the 2017-18 season. Hope it is a prosperous one for the SUNYAC with lots of victories.


Nov. 15   

Fredonia State  at  Penn State-Behrend        6:00 PM

I think that  the Lions will be a bit too much too handle for the Blue Devils. I see this one staying close but  Behrend wins it 76-67. Hope I'm wrong on this one.


Oneonta State at  Keystone        7:00 PM

The Red Dragons will find that Keystone will be a battle as they return quite a bit from last years team. Ultimately I think the SUNYAC team will prevail  by a 79-72  final score.


Ithaca  at Cortland State        7:00 PM

Cortland State looking for a little revenge in this version of the Cortaca Bowl to make up for the licking they got on the gridiron last Saturday. Cortland won by 38 points last year. Both squads have much of the same personnel returning but I don't think it will be a blowout of last year's magnitude. These Red Dragons will win by an 87-75 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 15, 2017, 09:20:22 PM
Magicman you never cease to amaze me.
Now I know what you've been doing for the past couple of weeks.
Your Posts are incredible.
Welcome back my Friend.
Looking forward to a fantastic season in the SUNYAC.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on November 15, 2017, 09:33:25 PM
FYI - my apologies to the loyal fans for no live stats from the Cortland game tonight. We're probably going to go a while without them. Long story that I can't get into here, but the decision was out of our hands.  We at least will hopefully have video for most of the games.  -- Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 15, 2017, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: FranElia on November 15, 2017, 09:33:25 PM
FYI - my apologies to the loyal fans for no live stats from the Cortland game tonight. We're probably going to go a while without them. Long story that I can't get into here, but the decision was out of our hands.  We at least will hopefully have video for most of the games.  -- Fran

I couldn't get video either.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2017, 09:40:42 PM
Fredonia falls to Penn State Behrend 75-46 to get the YAC off on the wrong foot to start the season.

I had the Blue Devils losing by a more respectable score of 76-67. Pretty much nailed the Lions score but Fredonia was nowhere near the 67 points I projected them to put on the board. I mentioned in my preview that they were going to be a work in progress until they figured out where the offense was going to come from. 46 points won't get it done on just about any night. Hope they figure it out and quickly or it will be another long season.

Neither team wanted to score in the early stages of the game as it was 1-0 Fredonia for the first 4 minutes of play. Slowly Behrend started to open some daylight, and by the 10 minute mark of the 1st half was ahead 11-6. Two minutes later they were up 17-6 and with 6:31 left in the period had built the advantage to 28-11. The Blue Devils did manage to get it back to single digits as the half ended and went into the break down 31-22.

Behrend scored the first couple of baskets to start the 2nd period and by the 16:13 mark the lead was 40-24 and the Lions never looked back.The lead shifted between 15 and 25 points the rest of the way and the final score was the largest lead of the night.

Ian Helps led the Blue Devils with 10 points and added 5 rebounds. Dante Williams and De'Quan Smith both added 8 points wile Kay Jackson had 7. Chris Marinez led the team with 6 rebounds.

Behrend was led by Andy Niland with 28 points, 5 rebounds, 5 steals and 4 assists. Justin Gorny had 16 points and 6 rebounds. Mike Fischer added 11 points and 4 assists.

The Lions dominated play outshooting Frednia in every phase of the game and had 42 rebounds to 26 for the Blue Devils.

Fredonia will be back in action on Friday as they take on John Carroll in the first round of the Hilbert College Tip Off Tournament at 6 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2017, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: FranElia on November 15, 2017, 09:33:25 PM
FYI - my apologies to the loyal fans for no live stats from the Cortland game tonight. We're probably going to go a while without them. Long story that I can't get into here, but the decision was out of our hands.  We at least will hopefully have video for most of the games.  -- Fran

Thanks for the information Fran. I know you'll do your best to give us the media coverage we clamor to have.  8-)  A much closer game tonight than last year's edition.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on November 15, 2017, 10:35:53 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 15, 2017, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: FranElia on November 15, 2017, 09:33:25 PM
FYI - my apologies to the loyal fans for no live stats from the Cortland game tonight. We're probably going to go a while without them. Long story that I can't get into here, but the decision was out of our hands.  We at least will hopefully have video for most of the games.  -- Fran

I couldn't get video either.

I'm sorry about that. The video seemed to be fine for most, however. We had more than 200 viewers at one point, from what I've been told. We stream on YouTube Live, which tends to work on most devices.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
Cortland gets the YAC in the win column with a tough 70-66 win over Ithaca in the Cortaca Bowl hardwood version to avenge the football loss on Saturday.

I expected the Red Dragons to put up close to 90 points since Ithaca wasn't known for their defense and with the Bombers returning just about everyone from last year I expected a more competitive game than last year's 38 point  blowout.  The Bombers gave Cortland all they could handle and very nearly won this game. Cortland had an early lead but Ithaca went in front and held the lead for most of the first half. Cortland finally caught them at 20-20 but still went into the break down 29-26.

The Bombers wouldn't go away in the 2nd half either and maintained the lead until Cortland finally drew even with 5 minutes gone by in the 2nd period. Several ties and lead changes would follow until the Bombers down 44-42 would score 8 straight points to go up 50-44 with 8:49 to play. A slew of 3 pointers by the Bombers, including 3 treys by Riley Thompson gave them a 56-47 advantage. On the other side, the Red Dragons Nicky Bonura entered the game and kept the Cortland contingent alive by hitting 5 straight shots, 4 of them from behind the arc, to pull the Red Dragons within a point at 56-55. When Bonura finally missed a shot, big man Zach Lydon was  there to grab the rebound for a putback and the lead at 57-56.  The lead would change hands two more times before Cortland would seize it for good and this time it was James Morales who would go streaking as he made 4 straight buckets beginning with a 3 pointer, followed by a jumper, a layup and another jumper. His 9 straight points gave Cortland a 66-62 lead with 27 ticks on the clock. Thompson made a pair of free throws for the Bombers that were countered by a pair from the line by Lydon. The Bombers got a layup with 8 seconds left to get within 2 points but Justin Cooper closed the door with 2 points from the line to make it a 2 possession game with 6 seconds left. Ithaca missed a 3 pointer and the Cortaca Jug belonged to the Red Dragons.

James Morales led all scorers with a game high 28 points, hitting 12x19 from the field. Nicky Bonura was next with 16 points getting all but 2 of them in that 6 minute stretch in the 2nd half. Justin Cooper had 8 points and a team high 8 rebounds. Zach Lydn also grabbed 8 boards to go along with his 4 points. Good to see Carrell Joseph return to action as the big guy had 3 points and grabbed 7 boards in 19 minutes of floor time.

Ithaca was led by Riley Thompson with 21 points and Marc Chasin had 16 points. Peter Ezema was the game's top rebounder with 11 boards.

Shooting stats were almost even with a slight edge going to Cortland and both teams had 37 rebounds and 10 turnovers. Cortland had 7 threes and Ithaca had 8 but the Red Dragons were 13x15 from the line while Ithaca was 6x8.

Cortland will be back on the court on Saturday when they host the  SUNY-Canton Kangaroos at 2:00 PM     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2017, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2017, 04:54:28 PM
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends... to steal a phrase from Emerson, Lake and Palmer. For all you young ballers out there that have never heard of Emerson Lake and Palmer here's a clip from their 1970 hit single Lucky Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn_1d_DUE08

There will be a Lucky Man come Saturday evening,  February 24th when a YAC coach gets to hold the trophy that signifies the winner of the Conference Tournament. Who will that be? Will it be Coach Dunne from Brockport, or will Coach Leone from the Oswego Lakers get to hoist it once again. Coach Spanbauer likes his chances, but probably won't tell you that he does. And what about Coach Curle who missed the playoffs completely last year in somewhat of a shocker. (I know I was shocked even if he wasn't) Will the Cardinals be able to turn things around and get back to the playoffs?

How will 2nd year head coach Cameron Conover follow up his successful debut as he led the Oneonta Red Dragons to the championship game of the SUNYAC, against Oswego and came within a whisker of winning the big prize as they trailed the Lakers 72-70 with 16 seconds left in the game. The Lakers hit their free throws to win 75-70 but Oneonta proved they belonged in the big game. Now Coach Conover is faced with the loss of the Red Dragons scoring triumvirate of Frankie Kelly, Lawrence Coleman, and all time scoring leader, Mikey McElroy. Losing any one of those players hurts, but losing all 3 in a single year  certainly makes one wonder where the offense that was ranked  #1 in the YAC and 28th in the country will come from this year.

Where does Buffalo State fit into the picture. They lost 4 of their 5 double digit scorers from last year. They do have Justin Henry back and if you're going to get just one of your starters back, he's a good one to get. But there are 10 new faces on the 15 player roster. They brought in several new big men, a 6'7" freshman and a 6'8" sophomore, but they are unknown factors at the present time. I think Coach Ansari and the rest of the Bengal staff may be in for a long cold winter. With 7 freshman on the team it has "a rebuilding year" written all over it. But there's a lot of talent in the Queen City area and I'm sure the Bengals coaching staff went out and found some players. How soon can this team come together will be the question. 

Geneseo suffered some big losses as well with the departure of Justin Ringen, John Decker and Jack Eisenberg...3 starters that accounted for nearly 60% of their offense. Coach Minton will be working overtime to get the Knights up to speed. Senior guard Kevin Crockett is the only returning double digit scorer and he will get help from  junior big man Jack Manke and sophmore guard Tommy Eastman who showed promise last year as a freshman scoring 175 points and grabbing nearly 4 rpg while averaging 19 minutes of floor time per game.  The Knights do return 6 players that averaged double digit minutes last year but they need to figure out where the offense will come from and who the go to guys will be. A problem they haven't had for the last few years.

Fredonia almost made the playoffs last season and they did manage to win 3 games against some of the better teams in the conference. Most impressive was their win over conference champion Oswego, and road wins in Plattsburgh and Geneseo. The big question is can they ratchet those results up a notch and make the playoffs? They return their main offensive weapon in big man Ian Helps who returns for his senior season but they lost 3 starters and 5 players that gave them double digit minutes. Freshman big man 6'7" Jonathan McDonald could be a bright spot among the new recruits. He had 10 points and 8 boards against DI Fordham in an exhibition game 2 weeks ago. Returning guard Dante Williams figures to be an important part of the Blue Devils offense as he averaged nearly double figures last season and almost 6 boards a game. They will be a work in progress until they figure out where the offense will come from. They lost more than half of their point production and Helps will need all the help he can get as other teams will certainly key on him when Fredonia has the ball. Coach Phil Seymour is beginning his 5th year as the Blue Devils coach and last year's 10 wins represent the most under his direction. The 7 conference wins was also a high water mark. He'd like to get over the hump and have his first winning season but I think the odds are against him. I think he 'll come closer but 11 or 12 wins are where I see the Blue Devls peaking this season. But I won't mind if the team makes me eat those words. I'd love for all the YAC teams to have a winning record. 

What's going on in Potsdam? My alma mater has certainly fallen on hard times over the past 8 years where they have a won-lost record of 38-162. That's a average of less than 5 wins per year and over 20 losses per season. They won 3 games last year which was 2 more than they did the year before. It was Coach Jim Bechtel's first season at the helm and he brought in lots of new faces. The good news is most of those new faces have returned for another go around. 11 guys returned off a roster of 14 that started the 2016-17 season. Plus he brought in another large recruiting class of 6 freshman so the numbers are there and hopefully so is the talent. The coach did an excellent job of recruiting when he was at his last stop as the head man at SUNY-Canton. He had his work cut out for him at Potsdam (and still does)and the program needs to make some more gains this year. It will be interesting to see if the Bears can take a step forward this year. I think they will but I don't see them making the playoffs, unfortunately, but I'm more than willing to be proven wrong...are you listening Coach?...Please prove me wrong! I've suffered long enough.

That brings us to New Paltz and what the Hawks can do to improve upon a winless SUNYAC campaign of  a year ago. They can only improve upon that 1-23 mark. They lost 5 games by 6 points or less and the one game they did win was against their 2nd toughest non-conference opponent...Springfield College.

New head coach Keith Kenny certainly knows how to play the game as he scored nearly 2000 points in his 4 year college career at Cobleskill and then New Paltz (actually 1918 points). He was a two time SUNYAC All Conference 1st team selection and has the 5th highest scoring average in SUNYAC history (20.5 ppg).  He scored almost a thousand points at both colleges in only 2 years at each school. That's one heck of an accomplishment. 

What appears to be a bright spot for the Hawks is Kevin Coyle, a 6'4" guard/forward. Coyle only played in 2 games last year, but is listed on the current roster. He opened up with 26 points against Vassar College and only saw action in the next game. The Hawks also return 7 of their top 10 rotation players that each saw action of at least 10 minutes per game. They lost leading scorer Andrew Seniuk but will get the services of Dylan Balducci and Nick Paquette, their two main 3 point shooters, to fire up shots from behind the arc. Also back after a year's absence is 6'5" forward Brandon Guest who averaged 8.4 ppg and 5.9 rpg in the 2015-16 season. With his availability and the return of Coyle perhaps the Hawks will be able to generate some offense and get some much needed help off the glass. New recruits were 4 freshman guards who have some solid high school credentials and may get some playing time early on. I think the Hawks and Coach Kenny will improve considerably upon last year's misfortunes. The improved play of both the Hawks and Potsdam will help out the strength of our conference as they have held us down for the past few seasons. 

I think the contenders this year are the schools I mentioned in my 2nd paragraph. Brockport, Cortland Oswego and Plattsburgh, not necessarily in that order. One of these schools will win the crown and the other 3 will come in 2nd 3rd and 4th. Tomorrow or later tonight if I have time, after I attend the Cardinal's Red and White scrimmage at 6 PM, I'll make my picks and talk more about these 4 teams.

Geneseo, Oneonta, Buffalo State are the pretenders. They are in the playoff mix but I don't see any of them winning the YAC championship this year. One of them will miss the playoffs like the Cardinals were the odd man out last year.

Once again I see Fredonia, Potsdam, and New Paltz bringing up the rear of the conference, again not necessarily in that order, just that they will occupy the last 3 spots.  But all three could surprise and have different reasons for doing so. I've been a follower of this conference for over 52 years and I've seen plenty of surprises over the years. Surprises that many of the current group of coaches weren't even born yet to witness.

Time for some predictions on tonight's games. Back in a few minutes.

   
   

Hopefully we, Buffalo State, will get another talented player in the future who's named "Justin Henry". At present however there is no one on the team named Justin Henry nor has there ever been (at least in the past 11 years). The BENGALS do have a talented, 2nd team All - SUNYAC teamer last year named Mike Henry.   http://buffalostateathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4858&path=mbball

So either you have a crystal ball or have you have renamed Mike. Hopefully Mike doesn't see your post! You clearly got the BENGALs staff attention though!

Go BENGALS

and

Go MIKE HENRY!

oh and BTW

Happy Birthday Magicman!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2017, 03:42:11 AM
Why don't you make it a little bigger so it will stand out. I knew it was Mike not Justin. In fact I spotted my mistake, meant to go back and fix it but got a phone call from a coach as I was in the process of typing my post. That got me sidetracked and then I had to leave my house in a hurry to meet someone. I hit the post button and didn't realize I never corrected the mistake in Mike's name until I spotted your "hard to see post".

If somehow Mike missed my post and my mistake I really don't see how he could miss yours. ???

As I said earlier I've had a rough summer and you don 't know the half of it.

Thanks for the birthday wishes. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2017, 04:32:44 AM
Oneonta defeats Keystone 97-85

That gave me a perfect 3-0 mark with my picks Wednesday night to start the season. I'd gladly sacrifice a few wins if the conference teams would win when I pick them to lose. Always want the YAC teams to come away with a  victory... just have to be realistic with the matchups and pick the games as objectively as I can. I will put my heart on my sleeve on occasion for a certain team with red and white colors and a bird mascot.

The Red Dragons started their new season much like they ended last season by scoring lots of points as they put up a few more than the 79 I thought they would get. Maybe Coach Conover got some prized new recruits to take over for the troops he lost through graduation. Here's hoping.

I had a complete rundown of this game all typed up and ready to post and somehow my computer just shuffled it off to never never land and I lost the entire post. I'm too tired to do it all again. Here's the shortened version.

The Red Dragons took control of this game midway through the first half and every time the Giants came within a couple of possessions the boys from Oneonta would open up some more daylight. They got up by double digits toward the end of the first half and went into the break up by 12 points 48-36. They allowed the Giants to get as close as 4 points with 14:52 left in the game but had the lead back to double figures shortly after and coasted to the finish line with the 12 point win.

5 players had double figures led by Ian Schultz with game highs of 20 points and 11 rebounds for a nice double-double to open the season. Dwayne Freeman added 15 points, 3 assists, 2 blocks, and a steal. Newcomer to the team, junior Matt Boyd, was close to a triple double in his Red Dragon debut as he tallied 14 points, had 9 assists and 8 rebounds. He also had a pair of steals. Another new face, junior Anthony Kirkwood had 10 points and 4 rebounds in 15 minutes of court time. Freshman Andres Rivera had 13 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal in his first collegiate game. Kevin Mackin added 9 points and 5 rebounds. All 12 players broke into the scoring column. The Red Dragons outshot Keystone in every category and won the battle of the boards 54 to 34. The only negative was the 23 turnovers committed by Oneonta to only 10 turnovers for Keystone.

Oneonta will be back in action on Friday Nov 17th as they travel to Lycoming College to participate in the Lycoming Tip Off Tournament. They will take on Desales at 8 PM on Friday and face either Lycoming College or Penn State Wilkes Barre on Saturday.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2017, 02:49:56 PM
Nov. 17  6 Teams in action tonight in 6 different tip off tournaments   

Brockport State  vs  Western Connecticut     6:00 PM   at Manhattanville College Tip Off Tournament
Oddsmakers have Brockport favored by 9 points. I think that's about right.Going with the Golden Eagles in this one by an 82-74 final score.
   
John Carroll  vs  Fredonia State     6:00 PM Hilbert Tip-Off Tournament @ Hamburg, N.Y. 
Someone will be singing the Blues after this one is over, and it looks to be Fredonia. The point spread has John Carroll favored by 12 points but I think the Blue Streaks will be all over the Blue Devils by an 85-60 final score as Fredonia still struggles on offense.

New Paltz State  @  Muhlenberg        8:00 PM  Muhlenberg Tournament @ Allentown, Penn.
The Mules are favored by 9 points but the Hawks could pull off the upset here. I'm probably making a heart over head choice here but I'll take New Paltz and their new coach to do just that by a final of 70-67.

Oneonta State vs  DeSales        8:00 PM  Lycoming Tournament @ Williamsport, PA   
The Red Dragons try to start a streak after opening the season with a win. Oddsmakers favor them by 4 points in this contest. Both teams lost a ton of talent but Oneonta looked good in their opener. I'll take the Red Dragons to win by an 86-79 final score.
   
Green Mountain @ Potsdam State 8:00 PM  North Country Tip Off Tournament   
The Bears get a chance for an early season win at home and I'm hopeful they can pull it off. Green Mountain lost its top 5 scorers from last year. Not sure why the oddsmakers favor them to win this game by 4 points, but I'm taking my Bears to win by a 70-65 final score.

Villa Maria College @  Buffalo State        8:00 PM  Buffalo State Coles Classic

The Bengals open up against Villa Maria in their annual contest and are favored to win by a double digit 16 point margin. I don't know much about the opponents but I'm taking the Bengals to win against a non D3 team. Buff State 85 Villa Maria 74.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2017, 10:43:24 PM
Whew.  Mama said that there would be days like this :(.  Down 20 in the 1st half was not what I had envisioned when I arrived at Buff State Sports Arena Tonight!  Fortunately the boys fought back in the 2nd half to take the lead only to watch Villa run take a 18-5 run to close out the game! Oowweee. This one hurts ! Got give Villa thier due. This was their 5th game so far this season and it showed! Tomorrow's opponent has played 6 games ( or more ) already do it won't get any easier for us when we face Point Park in the consolation game tomorrow!

Fret not BENGAL lovers ( or haters). It will get better. We are BUFF STATE!

Go BENGALS !!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2017, 02:15:13 PM
Nov. 18 Everyone in action today with 10 games on tap. Not a lot of time so just some quick picks. Already behind on a couple of games that tipped off at 1:00 PM.

Geneseo State @  Marymount     1:00 PM  Marymount Tip Off Tournament
Knights win a close one 75-71. They are favored by 3 points

William Paterson  vs  Brockport   State     1:00 PM  @ at Manhattanville
Port gets back on the winning track with a 75-70 victory They are 10 point favorites.
   
Fredonia State @ Hilbert        1:00 PM     Hilbert Hawks Tip-Off Tournament
Blue Devils are favored for a change  as the oddsmakers give them a 2 point edge. Not sure they can pull off the win though. I'm taking Hilbert to win in a close one by a 78-74 final score.

      
SUNY-Canton  @ Cortland State     200 PM
Cortland should have an easy time of this one. They are favored by 10 points. Ithaca beat the Kangaroos by 28 yesterday. Red Dragons 98-Canton 72.
   
Oneonta State @ Lycoming        3:00 PM     Lycoming Tournament
Hosts are favored here by a slim 3 point margin.    I'm picking Oneonta to pull off the mild upset in this one. Red Dragons on top 81-77.

New Paltz State  vs  Rutgers-Camden        3:00 PM Muhlenberg Tournament @ Allentown, Pa.   
The Hawks lost their opener yesterday but at least they were in a competitive game. They are 3 point underdogs today but I think they can win this game. I'll take New Paltz to win by a 74-70 final score.

Bridgewater State  @  SUNY Potsdam        3:00 PM   North Country Invitational
Will you guys bear with me?  It's the Bridgewater State Bears against the Potsdam State Bears for the championship of the North Country Invitational. Potsdam opens the season with a victory as they won yesterday over Green Mountain...Yay!!   Can they now have a winning streak for the first time in years? The oddsmakers say no as they are listed as an 8 point underdog. Bridgewater State usually has a decent team so the local Bear contingent will have their work cut out for them...but I'm picking Potsdam to win a barnburner on their home court by a 69-66 final score.
   
Point Park  @  Buffalo State        4:00 PM   Buffalo State Coles Classic
The Bengals got beat yesterday by a non-D3 team...will it happen two days in a row? The oddsmaker say no as they have the Bengals listed as a 13 point favorite. I think that's too many but I will pick them to win by a 92-87 final score.
   
Oswego State  vs  Hamilton        4:00 PM      @ Elmira
The Lakers lost to their former coach last year at Hamilton by a 78-70 score. Oswego's Coach Leone ususally reloads but I think this year's Laker team is not quite as strong as last year's team with the loss of All American Brian Sortino. I also think that Coach Adam Stockwell has Hamilton in a position to make some noise in this year's NESCAC conference. The oddsmakers have Oswego favored by a slim 2 points but I think Hamilton and Coach Stockwell will keep bragging rights for one more year. Hamilton wins 78-74. Hope I'm wrong about this one though. A SUNYAC win over a NESCAC opponent is always sweet. Go Lakers!! Adam, I'll root for the Continentals in most every other game though (except when they play Middlebury ;)).

Keene State  @  Plattsburgh State        5:30 PM
The Cardinals open their season against the Owls and find themselves listed as a 3 point underdog on their home court. Keene State already has a game under their belt and the team currently ranked #31 in the D3hoops preseason poll  found themselves on the short end of a 73-67 score against Southern Vermont. That was a fairly large upset as Keene State was favored by double digits. I think the Owls will be in for more problems today when they go up against the Cardinals. Plattsburgh State wins this game 85-71. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 18, 2017, 05:23:44 PM
Magicman's Bears 2-0. ;)
What the heck is going on in Bear Country.
Happy to see Potsdam start off the season with a couple of wins.
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2017, 10:38:21 PM
Glad the 1st weekend of the season is over for us.  After crapping the bed yesterday my BENGALS looked considerably better today, albeit short handed ( missing Friday nights double doubler Sir Quentin Campbell), with a 114-87 victory over Point Park.  MIKE Henry's 2nd double double in a row looked great ( 24 points/10 rebounds/ 7 assists last night and  19/12 tonight) however he wasn't even the leading scorer tonight. That honor went to Potsdam transfer Tyrone Adeyeye with his game high 23 points. Having 5 players in double figures hasn't happen in quite a while. Having 4 of those 5 double pointers as 1st year BENGALS, and 3 as freshman, is even more gratifying.

Not too much time to enjoy this.  Gotta get ready to visit a 2-0 Nazareth team Tuesday, that reminds me of Cortland  :o. Proud of these boys though, especially after lasts nights big let down.  A lotta of heads were down. Shucks i felt like we just lost a SUNYAC playoff game. But hey grandma always told me that " it doesn't matter where you start the race but where you finish".

I Love these boys

Go BENGALS !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2017, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 18, 2017, 05:23:44 PM
Magicman's Bears 2-0. ;)
What the heck is going on in Bear Country.
Happy to see Potsdam start off the season with a couple of wins.
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Actually on a 3 game win streak, as they ended last season with a win.  Go Bears.  Still young, but here's hoping for continued improvement.  Next game at Mt. St. Mary's in Newburgh, Tuesday, chance for some of the player's families to see the Bears in action.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2017, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 19, 2017, 12:04:06 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 18, 2017, 05:23:44 PM
Magicman's Bears 2-0. ;)
What the heck is going on in Bear Country.
Happy to see Potsdam start off the season with a couple of wins.
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Actually on a 3 game win streak, as they ended last season with a win.  Go Bears.  Still young, but here's hoping for continued improvement.  Next game at Mt. St. Mary's in Newburgh, Tuesday, chance for some of the player's families to see the Bears in action.

If there is anyone who can appreciate the Bears resurgence I know thebear is front and center on that.  I can only imagine how good you must feel right now with thier success. Plus you have a "real good seat" to witness it all ( at least at home).  May they sweep the rest of November. December 1st is a different hope though! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2017, 02:03:45 PM
Went 7-3 with my 10 picks yesterday and of course the one that hurts the most is the 73-66 loss my Cardinals received in the game against Keene State. The Owls always seemed to have an answer each time the Cardinals would pull within a possession or 2 and it usually came because Plattsburgh was handing them the ball on a silver platter. You can't commit 25 turnovers and expect to win many games. We outrebounded them 40-32. We shot the ball better from 3 point land (7x19 to 4x16). We had the advantage from the line (15x26 to 5x11). We had 17 assists to their 15 and 7 blocks to their 2. They outshot us from the field 32x65 (54.8%) to our 22x50 (46.4%), a telling statistic because they got more possessions from all the turnovers we had and they made them count.

Plattsburgh was on the short end of a 39-34 halftime score and the hole got deeper midway through the 2nd period, when the Owls opened up their largest lead of the night at 59-46 with 14 minutes to go. The Cardinals halved that lead to get within 59-52 at the 11 minute mark but Keene State would go back up by double digits and continue to hold a 7-10 point advantage until Plattsburgh cut it to a single possession at 67-64 on back to back 3 pointers by Eric Mack and Eli Bryant with 4 minutes to go. Plattsburgh had several opportunities to tie the game or cut the lead to one but a missed dunk and a rim out three kept Keene in front and then they stretched the lead to 5 points with another timely basket by Ty Nichols, their go to guy, with 1:17 left on the clock. That one hurt and the Cardinals couldn't recover as they committed another turnover and Nichols scored again to make it 73-66. Plattsburgh missed a 3 pointer and this one was history.

Nichols led Keene State with 16 points and shared game high scoring honors with teammate Miguel Prieto and Plattsburgh's Nick DeAngelis who also had 16 markers. Nichols also led his team with 6 assists and added 5 rebounds. Prieto had 4 assists and 4 rebounds. Dizel Wright filled up the stat sheet with 12 points, 4 steals, 3 assists, and 3 rebounds. Frosh big man, James Anozie, had 10 points and 2 boards in just 12 minutes of floor time.  Sidi Diallo had a game high 8 rebounds, along with 8 points and 3 steals. Ben Olsen had 8 points with 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Nick DeAngelis had 16 points which was a new careeer high as the sophomore came off the bench to provide a spark for the team with his 3 point shooting (3x5) and 4 rebounds in 19 minutes of court time, also a career high.

Brandon (The Microwave) Johnson also came off the bench to provide instant offense, (much like his nickname suggests if anyone happens to remember the original microwave... Vinnie Johnson )and scored 13 points, with 5 assists 2 rebounds and a steal.

Eric Mack also hit double figures with 12 points and 4 rebounds while Ian Howard tied for the game high in rebounds with 8 boards. He added 6 points, 2 steals and a block.

Eli Bryant had a game high 6 assists, 5 points, 3 rebounds and a steal. 

Plattsburgh State will return to action on Monday night as they travel to Skidmore to take on another team getting votes in the preseason Top 25. The Throughbreds were ranked #28 and have opened the season with 2 wins over Castleton State and Hartwick.

This is the 4th straight year the teams have met with 3 of those games taking place in Saratoga. The Cardinals hold a 2-1 edge in those contests. Tip off time is set for 7:00 PM. I hope to be courtside watching this one go down.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2017, 02:25:23 PM
Nov. 19  Two game on the schedule today as some Tip Off Tournaments wrap up.   

Oswego State  @ Elmira      2:00 PM   Elmira College Tip-Off Tournament @ Elmira, N.Y.
Lakers dropped a close one to former coach Adam Stockwell yesterday and find themselves in the consolation game of the Elmira tournament against the host Soaring Eagles, who lost an overtime thriller against Keystone, yesterday. Oswego looks to  break into the win column and the oddsmakers have them favored by 15 points. Elmira isn't the pushovers they used to be. The Lakers should win this game but I think it might be closer than 15 points. Oswego 86 Elmira 77      
   
Geneseo State  vs Randolph-Macon     3:00 PM  Tip-Off Tournament Championship  @ Marymount
The Knights will have their work cut out for them in this game as the Yellow Jackets almost knocked off 14th ranked Christoper Newport on Nov 15th and then manhandled 5th ranked Ramapo yesterday by a 79-61 final score.  The oddsmakers have Geneseo favored by a slim 1 point margin but I think that Randy-Mac will prove to be too much for Geneseo. This one goes in favor of the Yellow Jackets by an 82 -72 final. But I really really hope I'm wrong on this one. It would be a nice win for the YAC if the Knights can pull it off.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2017, 11:59:03 PM
1st week of SUNYAC hoops are in the books. YAC has a less than stellar 9-12 record vs non SUNYAC teams.  Not sure how many of those games count (I.E.  I doubt either game for my BENGALS counted because neither opponent was NCAA D-3).

Still ranked 15th Best conference according to Massey! 18 games this week so hopefully the Yac can make it 27-12 by Sunday night!

Kudos to Nosa Onabor ( Potsdam) and Mike Henry (Buffalo State) on being the only 2 Yac players to average a double double for at least 2 games. Im betting that MIKE or Nosa will surely be Yac player of the week when those awards are announced tomorrow. I'm sure thebear is pulling for Onabor!  You know who I'm pulling for  ;)

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 20, 2017, 10:43:57 AM
Thanks Bengals, nice to see the Bears on a winning streak. 

Nosa's performance is all the more impressive when you consider he posted a pair of double doubles while only playing 24 and 23 minutes. 

I looked at Massey, most of the data hasn't been updated, so the ratings are primarily based on last season.

That being said, the only two SUNYAC teams with unblemished records after week 1 are the Cortland Red Dragons, and the Potsdam Bears.  Back out their non-conference wins, and the rest of the yac is a miserable 5-12.

James Morales from Cortland may be in the mix for POW as he had a 28 point outing in the Ithaca game, and averaged over 20 for the week.  As I recall the league office has close ties to Cortland.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum91 on November 20, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2017, 04:57:33 PM
Very well done magicman,
If only someone would do the same prognostication for the E8!

Thanks, fisheralum91. There was a time when I did considerable posting over on the E8 board and the Liberty League board as well but then there were considerably more posters on those boards to enjoy a give and take with. They have been rather quiet for the past few years. maybe they will come back a bit this year as Fisher is supposed to do well.  You may see me over there from time to time. Certainly glad to see you over here!!  8-)
Of course im over here....Did you see the football team this year? ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2017, 10:50:45 AM
Nov. 20  Only one game that counts on tap for today.

Oneonta State game at University at Albany is an exhibition and won't count in their record.   

Oneonta State   @    Albany (N.Y.)        7:00 PM   Exhibition only
The Red Dragons will have way more than they can handle in this contest but it will be fun to play on the big stage against a D1 school. I went to this game last year and watched Albany win by a 97-56 score but Oneonta hung with them for most of the first half before a late run by the Great Danes gave them some breathing room at halftime. The Red Dragons don't have the firepower they had last year so this game may not be as close. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 31 point underdog and they will be under pressure to stay within that margin. I hope that Oneonta can keep them under 100 and not get beat by as many as Oneonta scores.  Final score 95-51.     

Plattsburgh State     @   Skidmore        7:00 PM
This is the 4th straight year that these two teams have faced off. Plattsburgh has won two very close games and Skidmore won in a romp 2 years ago. Tonight the Thoroughbreds go for the equalizer. They are led by their Preseason All American Edvinus Rupkus who comes into the game averaging a  double-double of 22 ppg and 11 rpg along with 6 assists per game. He led the team in scoring a year ago with a 20.7 average and was also the top rebounder with an average of 7.4 per game. Gone is backcourt mate Aldin Mendunjanin who was an All American as well but it looks like Division II transfer Dakpe Yiljep will play an integral part of the offense as he has opened up with a 23.0 ppg average after the first week of the season. Back also are 2 returning rotation players, starter Chase Ta and Jack Burns that are both averaging over 10 points a game.

The Cardinals will counter with high flying Eric Mack, (13.9 ppg, 5.7 rpg) a 6'3" forward who could lead the conference in blocked shots and sharpshooter Eli Bryant, who averaged nearly 15 ppg last season. The Cardinals also return 9 other players from last years' team that will all see significant minutes in Coach Tom Curle's offense. Sophomore Nick DeAngelis led the team in scoring against Keense State on Saturday with 16 points.

The oddsmakers have made Skidmore a 7 point favorite in this one but I'm taking the cardinals to rebound from their opening day loss to Keene State  and put one in the win column. Plattsburgh wins a close one by a 74-71 final score.                                                                                                                                           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2017, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 20, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 15, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2017, 04:57:33 PM
Very well done magicman,
If only someone would do the same prognostication for the E8!

Thanks, fisheralum91. There was a time when I did considerable posting over on the E8 board and the Liberty League board as well but then there were considerably more posters on those boards to enjoy a give and take with. They have been rather quiet for the past few years. maybe they will come back a bit this year as Fisher is supposed to do well.  You may see me over there from time to time. Certainly glad to see you over here!!  8-)
Of course im over here....Did you see the football team this year? ;D

I did and I feel bad for you. But the program is too good to be down for very long. Next year will be better I'm sure.

Your hoops team had some positives over the weekend. The losses weren't what you wanted but both teams were quality teams. Hobart is picked to win the Liberty league and Hope is expected to do well in the MIAA conference. I'll be surprised if Fisher doesn't win the E8 this year. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum91 on November 20, 2017, 11:20:12 AM
I certainly hope that they win the E8.
Shore up some rebounding and be able to keep up with a quicker pace of play and we may have a nice season in store!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2017, 11:31:14 AM
Quote from: thebear on November 20, 2017, 10:43:57 AM
Thanks Bengals, nice to see the Bears on a winning streak. 

Nosa's performance is all the more impressive when you consider he posted a pair of double doubles while only playing 24 and 23 minutes. 

I looked at Massey, most of the data hasn't been updated, so the ratings are primarily based on last season.

That being said, the only two SUNYAC teams with unblemished records after week 1 are the Cortland Red Dragons, and the Potsdam Bears.  Back out their non-conference wins, and the rest of the yac is a miserable 5-12.

James Morales from Cortland may be in the mix for POW as he had a 28 point outing in the Ithaca game, and averaged over 20 for the week.  As I recall the league office has close ties to Cortland.

"CLOSE TIES".  Touché thebear....touché!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2017, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2017, 11:59:03 PM
1st week of SUNYAC hoops are in the books. YAC has a less than stellar 9-12 record vs non SUNYAC teams.  Not sure how many of those games count (I.E.  I doubt either game for my BENGALS counted because neither opponent was NCAA D-3).

Still ranked 15th Best conference according to Massey! 18 games this week so hopefully the Yac can make it 27-12 by Sunday night!

Kudos to Nosa Onabor ( Potsdam) and Mike Henry (Buffalo State) on being the only 2 Yac players to average a double double for at least 2 games. Im betting that MIKE or Nosa will surely be Yac player of the week when those awards are announced tomorrow. I'm sure thebear is pulling for Onabor!  You know who I'm pulling for  ;)

Go BENGALS!

Congrats to thebear and Potsdam for Nosa Onabor on getting the 1st SUNYAC POW.  http://www.sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 20, 2017, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2017, 11:59:03 PM
1st week of SUNYAC hoops are in the books. YAC has a less than stellar 9-12 record vs non SUNYAC teams.  Not sure how many of those games count (I.E.  I doubt either game for my BENGALS counted because neither opponent was NCAA D-3).

Depends on what you determine as "counting."

As far as the 25-game schedule allowed... games count unless they are to upper division teams (primarily D1) and then a team could make them exhibitions, but there is a catch. Every DIII team is allowed two preseason exhibitions (scrimmages, joint practices). They are allowed to take one or both of those and use them in the regular season if they want on top of the 25 games they are allowed. If a team wants to play more than two exhibitions, they cannot have more than two prior to Nov. 15 AND they have to count towards their 25-game allotment for the regular season (since the extra game would be in the regular season anyway by rule).

No matter who the opponent is teams are allowed 25-games in-season. Use them as they wish against who they wish. There are going to be rules about what the NCAA says you can count as part of your record and anything outside of DIII is basically useless when it comes to regional rankings, at-large selections, and bracketing (unless, by chance, several teams ALL played a similiar out-of-DIII team - they could use that as part of the secondary criteria if needed).

I hope that makes sense. If you have specific examples, I am happy to help explain them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 20, 2017, 02:21:40 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2017, 11:59:03 PM
1st week of SUNYAC hoops are in the books. YAC has a less than stellar 9-12 record vs non SUNYAC teams.  Not sure how many of those games count (I.E.  I doubt either game for my BENGALS counted because neither opponent was NCAA D-3).

Depends on what you determine as "counting."

As far as the 25-game schedule allowed... games count unless they are to upper division teams (primarily D1) and then a team could make them exhibitions, but there is a catch. Every DIII team is allowed two preseason exhibitions (scrimmages, joint practices). They are allowed to take one or both of those and use them in the regular season if they want on top of the 25 games they are allowed. If a team wants to play more than two exhibitions, they cannot have more than two prior to Nov. 15 AND they have to count towards their 25-game allotment for the regular season (since the extra game would be in the regular season anyway by rule).

No matter who the opponent is teams are allowed 25-games in-season. Use them as they wish against who they wish. There are going to be rules about what the NCAA says you can count as part of your record and anything outside of DIII is basically useless when it comes to regional rankings, at-large selections, and bracketing (unless, by chance, several teams ALL played a similiar out-of-DIII team - they could use that as part of the secondary criteria if needed).

I hope that makes sense. If you have specific examples, I am happy to help explain them.

By "counting" I meant that because Point Park is NAIA d3 ( and I believe Villa Maria is also), I'm wondering if a win or a loss is factored into Buff State Massey rating ( or any d3 rating).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 21, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
Trouble in Cardinal Land  :(
I think the Magicman gave his Magic Wand to the Postdam Bears.
Plattsburgh was never in the game against Skidmore.
He needs to look deep into his Crystal ball and see what's going on there.
I could be a very long and cold winter up in Cardinal Land.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2017, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 21, 2017, 10:21:20 AM
Trouble in Cardinal Land  :(
I think the Magicman gave his Magic Wand to the Postdam Bears.
Plattsburgh was never in the game against Skidmore.
He needs to look deep into his Crystal ball and see what's going on there.
I could be a very long and cold winter up in Cardinal Land.

The trouble is very fixable come December 30th. ;D   A different perspective will be visible at that time. Troops just need to hold the fort until then (but there are some gaps in the outer walls of the fort right now for sure.) ::)

And I did send a magic potion over to Potsdam. Knew they would make good use of it....but they will need more juice down the road, I fear.

Thinking I better send something magical to Coach Leone as well.  ??? :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2017, 06:29:03 PM
Nov. 21   Five YAC teams in action today and I'm late getting my picks in so they will be quick ones.   

Morrisville State  at  Geneseo State   
Not sure what time this game tipped off but it's going on right now I believe. The oddsmakers have made the Knights a 6 point favorite but I think they'll win by a few more than that. Geneseo 84 Morrisville  67    


Oswego State        Clarkson        5:30 PM
Another game already underway and the point spread favors the Golden Knights by a slim 2 point margin. No way will Oswego lose a 3rd game in a row. I'm taking the Lakers to win this one by a double digit margin,   82-69

Potsdam State at  Mount St. Mary        6:00
This one hasn't tipped off yet. The Bears trying to go 3-0 this season. That would equal their total of last year and also equal their total from 2014-15 and 2015-16 combined. The oddsmakers have listed the Knights as a 3 point favorite but I'm taking the Bears to pull off the mild upset here. Potsdam averaging 84.5 points a game. The Knights gave up 84 points in their only game. Potsdam 84 Mount St. Mary 72.
 
Buffalo State at Nazareth        7:00 PM
Bengals, looking for their first win, are 0-2. Nazareth opens up the season 2-0. Hard to gauge this one as the Bengals played 2 non-D3 opponents and the Golden Flyers have played two schools from smaller conferences. Bengals may get a break as Nazareth's star player Tyler Stenglein missed the entire game last Wednesday against Keuka. Oddsmakers have made Nazareth a 2 point favorite in this one. I'm hoping the Bengals win but they are giving up too many points per game. I think Buff State has a chance if Stenglein sits this one out, but otherwise I see Naz winning at home 86-78.

Vassar  at  New Paltz State   7:00 PM
Once again the SUNYAC team is the underdog as the Brewers are listed as a 4 point favorite. I' ll take a chance that the Hawks are better than they were last year when they hung with the Brewers before falling 71-65.   Final score tonight New Paltz 71 Vassar 67.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2017, 06:48:58 PM
The Geneseo game is over and the Knights defeat Morrisville State 89-63. The Knight's Quinn Carey was the leading scorer in the game with 24 points off the bench. He hit 7 of 11 shots from downtown. Zack Panebianco was next in line with 16 points, with a team high 4 assists and 4 steals. Tommy Eastman and Kevin Crockett both tossed in 12 points. Eastman was also the leading rebounder in the game with 10 boards to give him a double-double.

Kevin Dennis led the Mustangs with 16 points.Tyrin Miller had 15 points  and Kyle Peck added 10.

The Knights won the first half 40-30 and coasted in the 2nd half as they widened their lead to 29 points. 11 players broke into the scoring column.

The Knights improved to 2-1 and will be back in action when they visit the Alfred University Saxons on November 28th at 7:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2017, 07:20:38 PM
Oswego State defeats Clarkson 82-66. I was close on this one as I had it 82-69. Clarkson must have missed a 3 at the buzzer to prevent me from having a perfect score. :D

Jamir Ferebee led the Lakers with 24 points and 7 rebounds which were both game high marks. Ian Schupp had 22 points and 4 rebounds. Liam Sanborn added 12 points. Liam Ellis had 16 points, Roburt Welch had 14 points and Matt Higgins had 10 point for Clarkson.

The Lakers trailed by a slim margin throughout the first 9 minutes of the contest but eventually went ahead 19-18 on a 3ball by Louis Avellino with 10:30 left n the period. They gradually opened up a double digit lead at 35-24 and went into the break up 41-30. The Lakers remained in control for the rest of the way and the lead grew to as much as 21 points midway through the period.

The Lakers are now 1-2 and will return to action at Nazareth on November 28th.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
Quality win tonight at Naz. I'm sooo glad I made that trip. Mike Henry continues to impress with his 3rd double double in a row with 24 pts and 13 rebounds .  Quintín Campbell surprises with 22/13 himself and freshman Shelton Adams comes back home to Rochester with 13pts. I'd love 3-0 but 2-1 beats the reverse!   Looking forward to some turkey

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2017, 10:07:09 PM
So any guesses as to which SUNYAC team now possesses the longest winning streak among conference teams. You guessed it and yes they do, as the magic continues for my Alma Mater, the Potsdam State Bears, who go on the road and win their 3rd straight to start the season. (4th in a row counting last year, as "thebear" will be so quick to remind me if I didn't mention it) ;D

Tonight the Bears traveled to Mount St. Mary and defeated the Knights by an 84-81 final score. I had their number pegged as I said it would be 84-72 but the Knights put a few more on the board than I thought they would.

This one was a close affair throughout as there were numerous ties and lead changes and it looked like the Knights were going to have the upper hand as they forged a halftime lead of 43-35 which was the largest lead of the game. But the Bears scored the first 11 points of the 2nd period (that hasn't happened in a while I don't think 8-)) and took back the lead at 46-43. Three ties and five lead changes would follow over the next 3  minutes until Potsdam went back in front 60-59 on a Dante Viskovich 3 pointer with 10:30 left to play. The Bears would maintain a slim lead for the next 9 minutes until the Knights finally caught them at 78-78 with 1:28 remaining. Reigning Player of the Week, Nosa Onabor, went to the line and knocked down a pair of free throws but the Knights scored inside to knot it up once again. The Bears went back to Onabor and again he was fouled and again he made both shots to give Potsdam the lead for good. The Knights had a chance to tie it from the line with 5 seconds left but missed the first free throw and made the 2nd. Potsdam went back to the line and made 1 of 2 to make it 83-81. The Bears committed a foul with 2 seconds left and gave Mount St. Mary one last chance to steal this game but they missed both free throws and the Bears got one more from the line to make it 84-81.

Danny Delsol-Lowry led the Bears with 14 points. He was also the team leader in rebounds with 8, assists with 4 and steals with 2. Nosa Onabor had 13 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 assists. Dante Viskovich also had 13 points, 3 rebounds and 2 steals. Tyreke Guthrie had 8 points and 7 rebounds.

Mount St. Mary was led by Tyler McDine with 23 points and 5 rebounds. Connor Bacci had 17 points and 7 rebounds. Gerard Nocera had 13 points and a team high 8 rebounds.

The Bears haven't been 3-0 since November 22nd 2008, nine years ago. They are only 56 wins from tying the DIII record that a previous Potsdam State team owns. (OK I can dream can't I) I would settle for winning the next 3 games.  ;)

The Bears will return to action on November 28th when they take on crosstown rival Clarkson College at 8:00 PM.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 22, 2017, 11:49:01 AM
The SUNYAC was rocking last night. ;D
Couldn't be Happier for Potsdam on a 4 game winning streak and New Paltz.
Hopefully those 2 programs are on the mend.
Have a Wonderful Thanksgiving and Enjoy the time with your Families.
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2017, 03:13:10 PM
The SUNYAC extended their winning streak to 6 games when Fredonia beating Waynesburg 89-81 last Wednesday night to break into the win column. The Blue Devils are the only team in action again today with a 3:00 PM tipoff.

Nov. 25   
Medaille  @ Fredonia State  3:00 PM

I think the Blue Devils will have a harder time of it against the Mavericks today and will find themselves on the short end of the scoreboard. The oddsmakers have Medaille favored by 4 points and that seems about right. The Mavericks hung with Nazareth only losing by a 100-97 score. The Golden Flyers had their all star playe,r Tyler Stenglein, playing in that game and he went off for 30 points. Buffalo State won a hard fought game over Nazareth and they didn't have Stenglein.

Medaille wins this game by a final score of 78-71, but I hope I'm wrong and Fredonia keeps the YAC winning streak alive.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2017, 08:22:59 PM
Medaille defeats Fredonia State by a 78-65 final score.

I got half of it right as I had Medaille winning 78-71. The Mavericks played a little better defense than I thought they would and the Blue Devils came up empty in their final 4 possessions.

Medaille trailed early on but finally took the lead at 12-10 at the 13:49 mark of the first half. They exended the lead to 22-13 with 11 minutes to go and when the Blue Devils narrowed the gap to 25-22 at the 8:24 mark, the Mavericks  used an 8-2 run to open up more daylight and went into the half up 35-29.

The teams traded buckets for the early part of the 2nd period and Medaiile, up 42-37 then used another burst to open up a double digit 50-39 advantage, with 13:52 to play. They increased that margin to a game high 14 points at 60-46 with 8:49 left to play, but the Blue Devils responded with a 12-4 run to cut it to 64-58 with 3:46 to go. 6 unanswered points built the lead back to 12 and this one was over. The Mavericks hit 6 straight free throws en route to the final 13 point margin of 78-65.

The Blue Devils had 4 guys in double figures. led by Dante Williams with 16 points and 8 rebounds. Ian Helps had 14 points and 6 rebounds, while Kay Jackson had 12 points, 3 steals, 3 rebounds and a pair of assists. Isaiah Ice had 11 poins and 3 helpers.

Medaille got a game high 22 points from Justice Fagan. Fagan also had 3 sreals, 2 assists and 2 rebounds. Kirk Hawkins added 14 points, 5 steals and 3 assists.

Fredonia won the rebounding battle 40-30, but turned the ball over 19 times to only 14 for Medaille. The Mavericks had 10 three pointers to 6 for the Blue Devils. Medaille got plenty of help from their bench players who scored 34 points while Fredonia's reserves only scored 12 points.

The Blue Devils are now 1-4 on the season and will be be back in action on Friday, December 1st when they travel to Plattsburgh to open conference play against the Cardinals at 7:30 PM.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2017, 09:08:46 PM
I wanted to write up a bit about New Paltz getting their first win on Tuesday night November 21st but ran out of time with the holiday approaching. So here is a brief summary of that game.

The Hawks were 4 point underdogs against local rival Vassar College  but managed to come away with a 79-72 victory. I predicted that one to be 71-67 win by the Hawks, so I wasn't far off on the outcome.

The first half was tightly contested as the teams went back and forth for the entire period resulting in 9 lead changes and 7 ties. Vassar up 35-34 made a pair of free throws with 22 seconds left in the half to take a 37-34 lead into the break.

The 2nd half was more of the same with the teams trading punches for the first 7 minutes and Vassar holding a slim 50-49 lead. The Hawks then put together a 13-4 run to give them the largest lead of the game at 62-54. 5 different players scored during that run led by a pair of dunks from Brandon Guest and a 3 pointer by Dylan Balducci. Vassar used a couple of 3 pointers to claw back into the game and only trailed 64-62 with 7:26 left to play, but the Hawks held onto and extended the lead back to 73-66 with just over 4 minutes to go. New Paltz the hit 6 of 8 free throws down the stretch to hold off the Brewers and come away with their first win of the season and first win since November 29th of 2016.

Dylan Balducci came off the bench and made 5 of 7 shots from downtown to lead all scorers with 25 points. He was 10x15 overall from the field. Corey Garcia and Tristan Wissemann had nearly identical stat lines as they both had 14 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists. Nick Arthur had 9 points and a team high 8 rebounds.
Brandon Guest filled up the stat sheet with 7 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals.

Vassar was led by Jesse Browne with 22 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists. Paul Grinde had 17 points and a  game high 9 rebounds.

The Hawks won all 3 shooting categories but were outrebounded by a 42-33 margin. Vassar had 17 turnovers to only 10 for the Hawks.

New Paltz, now 1-2,  returns to the hardwood on Tuesday Nov. 28th when they travel to Hamilton College for a 7:00 PM tipoff. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2017, 06:17:35 PM
Nov. 27   Only 1 game on tap today and it's just under way even though it was a 5:30 start.   

Brockport        Medaille        5:30 PM

The oddsmakers have the Golden Eagles favored by a slim 2 point margin in this one. I think they win it by a larger margin than that. Medaille handled Fredonia 78-65 the other night, but they won't be so lucky tonight. Final score... Brockport 77 Medaille 67. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
Brockport defeats Medaille by a 90-75 final score.

The Golden Eagles scored a few more than I predicted of my 77-67 final score. but it's not surprising since the Mavericks were allowing almost 84 points a game. Port only averaged 69.5 ppg going into this contest but put up some numbers tonight. Five players hit for double digits led by Hamed Shamseldin who found himself with a Triple Double of 26 points, 11 rebounds and 11 assists, all game highs in each category. That's the kind of night most players can only dream about. That should be enough to get him SUNYAC Player of the Week honors even if he didn't play another game this week. Funny thing is he has 3 MORE games this week. Not often you have a 4 game week on your schedule. Coach Dunne must have been making out this schedule in the wee hours of the morning and was undergoing some serious sleep deprivation. Up next is undefeated Hobart (who has just knocked off 2 Top 25 Teams to open the season and will probably find themselves ranked in the Top 25 when it comes out later today). The Golden Eagles end this stretch with a weekend set, on the road, against New Paltz State and Oneonta State.

Sophomore Justin Summers just missed his own double-double with 16 points and 9 boards. Josh Nelson had 16 points as well and Tyler Collins added 13 points. Starter David Clark had 10 points and 5 boards also.

The Golden Eagles jumped out to an early lead and quickly built it to double digits 7 minutes into the contest at 16-5. The lead continued to grow and reached a first half high of 20 points at 46-26 with 2:28 to play. The 2nd half was more of the same as the Mavericks could never get the lead back into single digits. They did manage to close within 11 points briefly at 69-58 but on Port's next possession Shamseldin buried another 3 pointer and the Eagles built the lead back to 20 points once again.

Brockport won all 3 shooting statistics, and shot 60% from the 3 point line hitting 15 of 25 from downtown. Medaille was also pretty good from deep as they shot 40% hitting 12 of 30 from the arc. Usually 12 made three pointers translates into a win.

Medaille was led by Meghale Ford with 19 points, 4 boards and 3 assists.   Joe Piotrowski chipped in with 14 points, while Mike Hollenbeck had 13 points and 6 rebounds.

Brockport improves to 2-1 overall and will take on visiting Hobart in Tuttle North Gym tomorrow at 7:00 PM.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2017, 09:49:43 PM
Just checked the D3hoops Top 25 page and a new poll has been released.

Rochester with 181 points moves up a spot from the Preseason poll to occupy the #15 ranking. The Yellowjackets lost to Hobart but are still ranked ahead of the Statesmen who check into the poll for the first time at #19 with 158 points. Hobart also defeated St John Fisher to open the season when the Cardinals were ranked  #19.

Skidmore picked to come in 2nd place behind Hobart in the Liberty League moves from #28 in the ORV category to #20 this week with 154 points a gain of an even 100, after getting 54 votes last week.

St John Fisher tumbles out of the Top 25 and is now in the Others Receiving Votes category with just 6 points.

Plattsburgh State and Oswego State are not mentioned at all this week and no other team from the SUNYAC made the list.

Here's a link to the Top 25:  http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2017-18/week-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 28, 2017, 06:30:54 AM

I'd have to go check my ballot to be sure, but all six of those SJF votes might've been from me.  I had the chance to see them in person twice and take an extra look at their results, having been at the Great Lakes Invitational.  I think they're better than their record and I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt early.  Consistency will be their issue - if they can avoid the bad losses, I'm willing to keep riding with them, at least near the bottom of the poll for now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum91 on November 28, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
Hoops fan,
Thanks for the votes  ;D
I think that Fisher rebounded from a tough opening non conference schedule with a solid (blowout)  win over Wooster.
Here is hoping that they have righted the ship and we ride this team to an E8 title!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 28, 2017, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 28, 2017, 06:30:54 AM

I'd have to go check my ballot to be sure, but all six of those SJF votes might've been from me.  I had the chance to see them in person twice and take an extra look at their results, having been at the Great Lakes Invitational.  I think they're better than their record and I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt early.  Consistency will be their issue - if they can avoid the bad losses, I'm willing to keep riding with them, at least near the bottom of the poll for now.

I certainly considered Ryan's thoughts on the team as he has shared them with me. However, I just couldn't find a spot on my poll for them right now. I will look forward to see the consistency come together and they improve. I certainly think they could be a Top 25 team, but the start of the season was a bit rougher than I expected.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: fisheralum91 on November 28, 2017, 01:19:23 PM
Lets see how they fare in the coming weeks and would love to re evaluate!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2017, 02:54:01 PM
Nov. 28       Nine games on tap in the YAC tonight   

SUNY Delhi  @  Buffalo State        7:00 PM

The Bengals take on another non D3 school and look to extend their winning streak to 3 games.  The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 20 point favorite in this game but I'm not sure why. Hard to gauge these non D3 schools but Delhi and Buff State both lost to Villa Maria by about the same margin (5 and 6 points respectively). I think the Bengals win this one but the score should be closer than the 20 point spread. Buffalo State 90 Delhi 81.
   
New Paltz State  @  Hamilton        7:00 PM

The Hawks won't get a chance to savor their win the other night over Vassar College for very long, as the Continentals bring them crashing back to earth. The oddsmakers have made Hamilton a 24 point favorite in this one. Hard to bet against them when they already own wins over Oswego State and Western Connecticut.
Hamilton wins this one but I think the Hawks keep it closer than a 24 point margin. Hamilton 84 New Paltz 71. 


Oswego State  @  Nazareth        7:00 PM

The Lakers are hoping they get the same luck as the Bengals did the other night and discover the Golden Flyers are without their top player Tyler Stenglein tonight. If they do face off against Stenglein  and his teammates I think that Nazareth will prevail in a hard fought contest, 84-80. The point spread favors the Golden Flyers by a slim 2 point margin, so without Stenglein, I'll take Oswego to walk off with the win, 83-80.
                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Geneseo State  @  Alfred        7:00 PM

The Knights travel to Mayberry to take on the Saxons and will find themselves in a close contest. The point spread favors the Knights by a 3 point margin and I can see this one coming down to the wire. Geneseo wins 75-72.

Hobart  @  Brockport State        7:00 PM

The Golden Eagles play their 2nd of 4 games this week and this should be the toughest one they face as the Statesmen have opened the season with a pair of wins over ranked opponents and now find themselves ranked at #19 in the country. The oddsmakers only show Hobart favored by a single point so they think this game could go either way. I really hope Brockport wins this game but I think they will come out on the short end. Hobart has a deep team and they have won both of their games by a double digit margin. The Statesmen remain unbeaten as they ground the Golden Eagles by a 78-70  final score. Hope I'm wrong though.   
   
St. Lawrence  @  Plattsburgh State  7:30 PM

Last year the Saints put a licking on my Cardinals over there. It was their first win over the Cardinals in 8 years. I don't think they will be starting a winning streak. The Cardinals come into this game looking for their first win of the season after losing a pair of games to ranked opponents. The Saints also opened with a pair of losses before defeating Canton last week. The oddsmakers have the Saints listed as 2 point favorites in this one but I think the Cardinals will win and by a few more than that. Plattsburgh State takes this one 86-78.

Oneonta State  @  Hartwick        8:00 PM

Local rivals battle it out for regional bragging rights. Last year's game went right down to the wire as the Hawks pulled out an 85-83 win. Hartwick has won 7 of the last 10 meetings and I think they might be a bit too much for the Red Dragons again this year. The point spread favors Oneonta by a slim 2 points but The Hawks played Skidmore 10 days ago and they were a single point from the lead with 2:49 left in the game.
I'm picking the Hawks to win this track meet by an 89-85 final score. But I sure hope I'm wrong.
 
Potsdam State  @  Clarkson        8:00 PM

The Bears are hot and the Knights are not. And since Clarkson has won the last 5 games and 9 of the past 11 the Bears will be looking for some payback. Can Coach Bechtel get his troops up for this crosstown rivalry? I think he does and I'm picking the Bears to extend their winning streak and remain undefeated. Seeking their 4th straight win this season and 5th overall dating back to last year's finale, the Bears will  come into the game as 9 point underdogs. I think the experts are reading the wrong set of tea leaves. Potsdam State 81 Clarkson 76

Cortland State  @  Ithaca        8:00 PM

Cortaca Bowl II because the two coaches didn't get enough of each other 2 weeks ago. Usually these teams meet once a year having done so for at least the past 11 years. Cortland held a 6-5 lead in those games and moved in front by 2 games with a victory on 11-15 by a 70-66 score. The Bombers want revenge but will be a 4 point underdog at tip off time. Both teams with only 2 games under their belt, a game against each other and they both thrashed Canton by wide margins. Tonight could get interesting as rivalry games have a tendency to do, but I'm picking the Red Dragons to double their pleasure this year and double their fun...Cortland 82 Ithaca 74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 28, 2017, 03:57:58 PM
Magicman...see you are going full bore here, as usual!  Rumor has it that you are  slowing down...Retired?.  Let me know so I will not call you at work to chat.
In any case, there is a post from Old Guy on the Nescac board.....wondering if you will "grace" the Middlebury game.  Your Midd admirers miss you :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on November 28, 2017, 08:19:57 PM
Not sure which admirers you speak of amh63.  Vandy74 and I made a semi-pilgrimage to Saratoga Springs last week to take in a Skidmore/Plattsburgh game with the magicman.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 28, 2017, 09:24:31 PM
Impressed with Plattsburgh in their win over my alma mater tonight.  Every time SLU made a mini run they answered back with a 3.  SLU missed 14 free throws but I don't think it would have mattered.  Makes me quite nervous for this weekend when we play Skidmore considering they beat this good Plattsburgh squad by almost 30. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 29, 2017, 10:38:42 AM
Middhoops....strange to see your post here.  You Midd guys do get around in the "snow belt".
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2017, 10:53:04 AM
Surprised that this hasn't been posted yet.  However SUNYAC POW is Sir Quintín Campbell - Buffalo State

http://www.sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171127jtxn1d

Congrats Q!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 29, 2017, 12:21:04 PM
Quote from: stlawus on November 28, 2017, 09:24:31 PM
Impressed with Plattsburgh in their win over my alma mater tonight.  Every time SLU made a mini run they answered back with a 3.  SLU missed 14 free throws but I don't think it would have mattered.  Makes me quite nervous for this weekend when we play Skidmore considering they beat this good Plattsburgh squad by almost 30.

Plattsburgh played badly at Skidmore. I was there courtside and we fell behind early  and never got into a rhythm. Skidmore shot very well from long range in the first half and didn't miss from the line. They threw a zone at Plattsburgh and the Cardinals didn't handle it very well. Skidmore is a very good team and the Saints will need their best effort if they hope to be competitive in that game.

Spent a few minutes talking with Saints big man Riley Naclerio before the game. I have him on one of my D3 fantasy teams and told him I needed a big effort from him against RPI this weekend because that was the game I had him in my lineup (we can only use a player in 1 game per week). He promised me he would save his best for that game. ;D   He was a nice young man and I enjoyed my conversation with him about the team. I think they should have given him more touches last night against Plattsburgh. When they went inside to him he usually scored but that didn't happen often enough. The Saints are young and will get better as the season progresses. They have some first year players who are getting quality minutes right now (Arnold, Coffey, Low and Keeley) and several others who show promise. With 8 freshman on a 14 man team the future looks bright.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Red_Dragons_4_Life on November 29, 2017, 01:36:21 PM
Hello all - first time here on the boards been following the Yac' for some time now (sure you can tell by my handle  ;) ) anyways nice to be in the company of you all! Let me start by saying we are in for a heck of a year! I do like my red dragons chances to run the table this year with so many teams "rebuilding". I was nervous that Plattsburgh who has mostly all of their student athletes from last year returning, would be a tough team but they have been awfully disappointing and at this rate will find themselves in the same situation as last year, watching the playoffs from the couch. Can never count out teams like Geneseo and Oswego, and this years dark horse team from me is none other than Buffalo State. I recognize 1 or 2 names from last years roster but boy have they come to play and they are terrorizing opponents in the paint with their big men duo of Henry and Campbell. Just looking back at some of the posts it seems the Magic one has some animosity towards those Bengals but it must be in good nature! They have played some non D3 schools yes but what he may seem to fail to realize is that those schools practice year round and have 6-7 games under their belt by the time they play Buffalo State or any other traditional D3 school who may only have 1 or 2 games. They also went on the road and beat a tough Naz team, regardless of who played and who didn't. Too bad for Oswego they couldn't have some of the Bengals luck *sucks teeth, rolls eyes, yawns*. Oneonta beat a tough Hartwick team and was impressive against D1 Albany without their big 3 from last year (McElroy, Coleman, Kelly). Coach Cam does an awesome job of recruiting and I am glad to see him shine; heck he was the one getting all of those amazing players to Plattsburgh before he took over at Oneonta! Brockport seems to be a 1 man show but will always be in the mix late in Feb and early March and HOW BOUT THOSE BEARS! Potsdam having some early success is great to see and they will look to continue their hot start when the Bengals and Blue Devils come to town this weekend. My Red Dragons took a tough one last night but best believe they will bounce back! Catch up with you guys soon good luck to everyone this year! Peace!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 29, 2017, 02:01:15 PM
Welcome to the boards!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2017, 06:28:58 PM
Welcome to the boards red dragon 4 life. I am curious though. Is that the Cortland version or the Oneonta version.

I do appreciate that you realize that some of Buff Stats opponents have been non d-3, they all had at least 6 more games under thier belt playing college competition . And yes I'm a Bengals fan "bengals rule", but you will never hear me berate another program.  These are pretty classy boards ( some the East football boards are downright brutal). Always good to have a new face and a fresh perspective on the SUNYAC boards.   Hope to cross paths one day!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2017, 08:55:12 PM
Kudos to Brockport on thier big victory over #19 Hobart, at Hobart, yesterday. BIG WIN FOR SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2017, 06:36:30 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2017, 06:28:58 PM
Welcome to the boards red dragon 4 life. I am curious though. Is that the Cortland version or the Oneonta version.

Pretty sure he's a follower of Coach Spanbauer's variety of Red Dragons that are caged down in Cortland. Hence the statement at the end of his post... "My Red Dragons took a tough one last night but best believe they will bounce back!"


Quote from: Red_Dragons_4_Life on November 29, 2017, 01:36:21 PM
I do like my red dragons chances to run the table this year with so many teams "rebuilding".

First let me welcome you to the SUNYAC board RD4Life. Always good to get a different perspective from another corner of the State. You should feel honored as the head man himself, Mr Coleman, gave you a shout out.

Secondly, It's been a while since any team has run the table in the YAC. My Cardinals did it in 2007-08 and the Lakers did it in 2011-12 but no one since, has pulled it off. It won't happen this year either but if it does I would have predicted that Cortland or Plattsburgh would have been the team to do so.

Quote from: Red_Dragons_4_Life on November 29, 2017, 01:36:21 PM
I was nervous that Plattsburgh who has mostly all of their student athletes from last year returning, would be a tough team but they have been awfully disappointing and at this rate will find themselves in the same situation as last year, watching the playoffs from the couch.

I can guarantee you that Plattsburgh won't be watching the playoffs from the couch this year. They opened the season against two very good teams and didn't play particularly well against either one. Their best player has yet to step on the floor this year and when he does return (December 30th) will give them another double digit scorer and rebounder (18.7 ppg, 9.0 rpg last year) They had a solid game on Tuesday night against St. Lawrence and they were short 3 players in their regular rotation. Don't underestimate the Cardinals.

Quote from: Red_Dragons_4_Life on November 29, 2017, 01:36:21 PM
this years dark horse team from me is none other than Buffalo State. I recognize 1 or 2 names from last years roster but boy have they come to play and they are terrorizing opponents in the paint with their big men duo of Henry and Campbell. Just looking back at some of the posts it seems the Magic one has some animosity towards those Bengals but it must be in good nature!

To set the record straight I absolutely have no animosity toward the Bengals and, as you state, it is in the form of good natured ribbing, usually directed at that Bengalsrule guy. He makes me chauffeur him around when he arrives in Plattsburgh and doesn't even tip me. Or he'll say something like..."you want a tip...you better double team Mike Henry tonight." The Bengals are actually one of my favorite teams and Bengal great Jake Simmons was one of my favorite players. I also have the Buffalo State apparel to prove it.

Quote from: Red_Dragons_4_Life on November 29, 2017, 01:36:21 PM
Brockport seems to be a 1 man show but will always be in the mix late in Feb and early March

Brockport's Hamed Shamseldin is making an early case for SUNYAC Player of the Year. A huge triple double on Monday night (26 pts, 11 reb, 11 assists) followed by a 42 pt, 9 reb, 6 assist, 6 steal night against Hobart on Tuesday, makes one wonder what he will do on the weekend in conference action. He's already locked up the next Player of the Week award regardless of what he does on Friday and Saturday. Port is far from a one man show. Shamseldin has plenty of help as Justin Summer, Tyler Collins and Josh Nelson are all averaging double figures.

I'll conclude with my predictions of how the conference will play out this season.

1.   Plattsburgh State   
2.   Cortland State
3.   Brockport State
4.   Buffalo State
5.   Oneonta State 
6.   Oswego State
7.   Geneseo State
8.   Potsdam State
9.   Fredonia State   
10. New Paltz State

Oneonta State, Buffalo State and Oswego State are interchangeable at the 4-5 and 6 position. The top 3 spots could also be shuffled around but I like the order I have them in. Once again I expect the competition to be fierce and the teams that protect their home court will be the ones in the playoffs at the end of February.

Good luck to everyone. Hope all the teams make it through the season with no injuries and that we get at least 2 bids to the Big Dance in March.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 30, 2017, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2017, 10:53:04 AM
Surprised that this hasn't been posted yet.  However SUNYAC POW is Sir Quintín Campbell - Buffalo State

http://www.sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171127jtxn1d

Congrats Q!

Is he knighted?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 30, 2017, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 30, 2017, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2017, 10:53:04 AM
Surprised that this hasn't been posted yet.  However SUNYAC POW is Sir Quintín Campbell - Buffalo State

http://www.sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171127jtxn1d

Congrats Q!

Is he knighted?

At least for this week ;).  Good 1!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on November 30, 2017, 04:14:18 PM
Here's what the conference schedule looks like.  I guess it can start to be filled in soon!
(https://i.imgur.com/9WUSfFz.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2017, 07:09:05 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 29, 2017, 10:53:04 AM
Surprised that this hasn't been posted yet.  However SUNYAC POW is Sir Quintín Campbell - Buffalo State

http://www.sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20171127jtxn1d

Congrats Q!

Congratulations to our reigning Player of the Week. That was some effort against Nazareth! 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2017, 02:42:50 AM
Congrats to the Cortland Red Dragons.  Pulled off a big 1 versus preseason top 25 St John Fisher (E8) by 1!
Coupled with Brockport win over Hobart (LL) yesterday , our conference "should" go up...a little.

On to conference play now.

Go BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 01, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
4 Games on Tap tonight.

Brockport all over New Paltz

Buffalo State all over Da Bears of Potsdam

The Real Red Dragons over Geneseo

Magicman's Cardinals get to 2-2 win an easy win over Fredonia

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2017, 05:56:34 PM
alert...alert.... There has been a MAGICMAN sighting!!!!!!!!!

Just got off the phone with BENGAL assistant coach Mark Gross. He says as he and 2 other coaches, Kevin Glover and Malik Campbell,  were sitting at the lobby at the Hampton inn. And who walks in?  None other than the famous MAGICMAN.  Sorry I missed this trip (but the Dr and wife overruled any north country journey for me).  Coach Gross says that the conversation was great and that the MAGIC 1 was as witty as ever. Hate to admit it (sometimes) but the MAGICMAN has become a BENGAL favorite (on most nights, i.e. tomorrow night might NOT be 1 of them). He's clearly 1 of the biggest homers but loves SUNYAC ball in general along with bleeding Card red (understandable). And from what I read on other boards, he is definitely 1 of the most respected in D3 world. Something tells me All-Time may soon rival the MAGICMANS presence in Central NY.

Now I just gotta  make sure that he didn't leave any "special" cookies for the guys to enjoy before the game tomorrow. ;)

My guy Magicman...sorry I missed him this weekend!!

go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2017, 06:18:19 PM
Dec. 1   The start of what promises to be another brutal season in the SUNYAC kicks off tonight with 4 games scheduled, all tipping off at 7:30PM.   

Brockport State   @  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Golden Eagles are streaking having won 3 in a row and their latest win over #19 ranked Hobart on Tuesday was a big one for the conference. Hamed Shamseldin is putting up ungodly numbers and the SUNYAC Player of the Week award is already in his pocket regardless of what he does this weekend. A triple double against Medaille, followed by his 42 point, 9 rebound, 6 assist and 6 steal night against the Statesmen is the stuff you can usually only dream about. The Hawks will have their work cut out for themselves trying to contain him and the rest of a talented Brockport squad. The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a solid 14 point favorite but i think they win this one by a bigger margin. The Hawks have improved over last year but won't be able to handle the pressure that the Eagles will throw at them tonight. Brockort wins this one by a 94-70 final score.


Geneseo State  @  Oneonta State        7:30 PM

These Red Dragons have opened the season winning 3 of their first 4 games. They beat the Knights 3 times last year and their offense is putting up points comparable to last season. Genseso comes into the game with a 2-2 mark losing their last game to Alfred on Tuesday night. The point spread has Oneonta favored by 4 points and i think the game will be fairly close as well. The Red Dragons will protect their home court in this one and I see them winning by an 86-81 final score.

   
Buffalo State  @  Potsdam State                7:30 PM

The Bears saw their winning streak come to an end on Tuesday night as crosstown rival Clarkson put together an 11-4 spurt to end the first half and then Potsdam went nearly five minutes late in the 2nd half without scoring a point as Clarkson built a 15 point lead. Buffalo State had a nice win over Nazareth and followed that up with a doube digit victory over Delhi to stretch their winning streak to 3 games. The tandem of Mike Henry and Sir.Quintin Campbell is averaging 40 ppg and over 22 rpg. Campbell may not be a knight in shinning armor but the Bengal faithful certainly think he is. At 6'8" and 265 pounds he will be a load to handle for the rest of the YAC who had a hard enough time dealing with Henry. The oddsmakers have the Bengals favored by 10 points, but the Bears will be up against competition better than they've faced so far this season. Bengals win this one 93-75.   


Fredonia State  @  Plattsburgh State         7:30 PM

The Cardinals finally broke into the win column on Tuesday against St. Lawrence and look to even their record tonight. There might be a revenge factor on the minds of the Redbirds, as a loss to Fredonia last January, on the Cardinals home court, was the main reason that Plattsburgh didn't play in the post season. Plattsburgh is still without their number 1 option, Jon Patron, but will still bring plenty of firepower to the table. Fredonia has struggled going 1-4 so far and all 4 losses have been by double digit margins. The oddsmakers favor the Cardinals by 9 points but I think the Blue Devils will once again be a double digit loser. Plattsburgh State 88 Fredonia 69. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2017, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 01, 2017, 05:56:34 PM
alert...alert.... There has been a MAGICMAN sighting!!!!!!!!!

Just got off the phone with BENGAL assistant coach Mark Gross. He says as he and 2 other coaches, Kevin Glover and Malik Campbell,  were sitting at the lobby at the Hampton inn. And who walks in?  None other than the famous MAGICMAN.  Sorry I missed this trip (but the Dr and wife overruled any north country journey for me).  Coach Gross says that the conversation was great and that the MAGIC 1 was as witty as ever. Hate to admit it (sometimes) but the MAGICMAN has become a BENGAL favorite (on most nights, i.e. tomorrow night might NOT be 1 of them). He's clearly 1 of the biggest homers but loves SUNYAC ball in general along with bleeding Card red (understandable). And from what I read on other boards, he is definitely 1 of the most respected in D3 world. Something tells me All-Time may soon rival the MAGICMANS presence in Central NY.

Now I just gotta  make sure that he didn't leave any "special" cookies for the guys to enjoy before the game tomorrow. ;)

My guy Magicman...sorry I missed him this weekend!!

go BENGALS

It was good to see the guys from Buffalo State this afternoon. We definitely had a few laughs. Missed your face though, but understandable why you weren't here.  Thanks for the kind words. Coach Glover has my number in case they need anything. North Country hospitality is always on display for my friends from the Queen City.  ;)  I know they must be in pain, sharing a bus and all. :o   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 01, 2017, 07:02:47 PM
Gentlemen
Love when you guys go at it on the Boards
Sorry to hear Bengalsrule hasn't been cleared by the Doctors and his wife to make the trip.
I would love to be a fly on the wall when you 2 get together.
Would Love for us all to meet up one of these days and catch a game.

Magicman you are a legend, I'm sure Da Bears roll out the Red Carpet when you show up to catch a game.

Maybe just maybe the Magicman has his Magic Wand tonight, Bengals beware.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2017, 12:39:47 AM
I wuz on the PA for the Bears/Bengals double header tonight.  [Tommy on his way back from annual pilgrimage to Mickey Land]

Observations.  Mike Henry is a BEAST!.   Had a couple of dumb/ticky tack fouls early on and Coach Ansari had to sit him.  Tough to guard, and very hard worker at both ends of the court. Man amongst boys in the SUNYAC. He and Sir Quintin Campbell are a wide load for most SUNYAC teams.

During a three minute stretch in the second half, Bears failed to effectively guard Sheldon Adams and he bombed them for a trio of treys, and broke the game open.

Bears are improving, still too many fouls [24] and turnovers [34], and had a very tough night from beyond the arc, [6/27 - 22%], yet their poor FG% was mostly self inflicted, most of their shots were good, wide open, looks.

Freddie tomorrow.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 03:19:09 AM
Fine job on the microphone there thebear.  I watched the broadcast on my 60 inch.  Don't know how wife hooked it up but I'm glad she did.

Good 1st day of Yac. No one had a start to finish blowout.  In fact I think everyone was within at least 10 pts of each other with less than 7 to go ( SUNYAC sight is pretty efficient).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2017, 09:39:21 AM
Quote from: All-Time on December 01, 2017, 07:02:47 PM

Magicman you are a legend, I'm sure Da Bears roll out the Red Carpet when you show up to catch a game.


Considering Magic is a Bears alum, I can assure you we do roll out the red carpet every time he is here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 10:00:03 AM
Quote from: All-Time on December 01, 2017, 07:02:47 PM
Gentlemen
Love when you guys go at it on the Boards
Sorry to hear Bengalsrule hasn't been cleared by the Doctors and his wife to make the trip.
I would love to be a fly on the wall when you 2 get together.
Would Love for us all to meet up one of these days and catch a game.

Magicman you are a legend, I'm sure Da Bears roll out the Red Carpet when you show up to catch a game.

Maybe just maybe the Magicman has his Magic Wand tonight, Bengals beware.

All time. Something tells me that there is a Oneonta, Plattsburgh and Buff State Final four looming !!
I'm thinking that that might be our best chance of all of us getting together. That would be special. I know you are pretty flexible from NYC to Oneonta !

And yes. It's been "rumored" that some stealthy Russians have been hired to steal the Magicman's wand before this afternoons game!  Gotta check with my sources to see how that's going !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2017, 11:02:47 AM
Final scores of  Friday night's games

Brockport State    79  New Paltz State   71

I had the Golden Eagles winning this one by a 94-70 score. The Hawks did their part for me but Port was 15 points shy of the mark. New Paltz must have said Hamed Shamseldin is not gonna beat us as they held him to 8 measley points. But as I mentioned earlier to our newbie poster from Cortland, the Golden Eagles are not a one man show. Justin Summers with a double-double of 24 points and 12 rebounds led the way. Both of those numbers were game high totals. Right behind him was Mike O'Hara, who came off the bench with a double-double of his own. O'Hara had 23 points and 10 rebounds in 28 minutes of court time. Tyler Collins also came off the bench to chip in with 10 points and 3 assists.

Dylan Balducci led theHawks with 14 points and Kevin Coyle had 13 points. Brandon Guest had 9 points and led the team with 8 rebounds.

Brockport led at the half, 40-24, and maintained a double digit lead for most of the 2nd half that peaked at a 19 point advantage on several occasions. The Hawks finally narrowed the gap to single digits in the last 50 seconds of the game, but the outcome was never in doubt.

Brockport has now reeled off 4 straight wins to improve to 4-1 overall and 1-0 in the conference. They will travel over to Oneonta on Saturday for a 3 PM start against those Red Dragons.

New Paltz falls to 1-4 overall (0-1) and will host Geneseo later today at 3:00 PM.

         
Geneseo State  67  Oneonta   State 62

The Knights pull off the mild upset in Oneonta as this one went right down to the final minutes before a winner was decided. Geneseo was down by 6 points 34-28 early in the 2nd half but gained the lead at 40-39 with 14 minutes to go. From that point on it was a back and forth affair with several lead changes and ties but no more than a 1 or 2 possession lead.  The Knights went in front for good, 46-45, at the 10:21 mark but their lead was only a single point 60-59 with less than a minute to play. Tommy Eastman scored inside to make it 62-59 with 43 ticks left. The Red Dragons committed a costly turnover with 22 seconds to go and had to foul, which increased the Geneseo lead to 5 points  when Zack Panebianco made both freebies. Oneonta's Dwayne Freeman hit one from downtown to make it 64-62 and another trip to the line by Panebianco, who made 1 of 2 gave Oneonta one last chance to tie it up with 10 seconds left. The Red Dragons missed from long range and a last second foul accounted for the final Geneseo points. Tough loss at home for the Red Dragons and one that could come back to haunt them at playoff time.

I thought this game would be a higher scoring affair and picked Oneonta as the winner 86-81, but it was the toughest game to call of the 4 that took place on Friday.

Zack Panebianco led the Knights and captured scoring honors for the game as he tossed in 21 points. He was 4x10 from long distance.  CJ Burke had a double-double of 10 points and 10 boards. Tommy Eastman was close to one with 8 points and 10 boards. Kevin Crockett filled up the stat sheet with 7 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and a block.

Ian Schultz was the high man for Oneonta with 14 points and 4 rebounds. Matt Boyd had 11 points, 5 steals, 4 assists and 2 rebounds. Carson Jacobs led the team with 8 rebounds and also had 5 points.

Geneseo improves to 3-2 overall (1-0 YAC) and will travel down to New Paltz to take on the Hawks at 3:00 PM today.

Oneonta falls to 3-2 (0-1) and will face Brockport also at 3:00 PM today.



Buffalo State  80    Potsdam State    68

I had the Bengals winning this one by a 93-75 final but the Bears tried hard to pull off the upset. Potsdam held the lead for the majority of the first half and at one point held a double digit lead over Buff State at 33-21 with 6:51 left in the period. The Bengals finally got untracked and closed the half with a 19-6 spurt to go into the break up 40-39. The 2nd half started out with several lead changes and ties until the Bengals, up 49-47 with 5 minutes gone by, went on a 13-3 run that gave them a double digit 62-50 margin with 12:49 left to play. The closest the Bears could get after that was 6 points at 67-61.

Sheldon Adams led the way for the Bengals and captured scoring honors with 22 points, 7 steals, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and a pair of blocks. Mike Henry just missed a double-double with 16 points and 9 rebounds. He added 3 steals, 2 assists, and a block. Malik Turner and Zak Ciezki both had 11 points and 3 rebounds. Sir. Quinton Campbell added 9 points and 8 rebounds. Bryan Harrel came off the bench and chipped in with 6 points, 6 boards, 2 assists, a steal and a block in 21 minutes on the court.

For the Bears, Errol  James came off the bench and led the way with 14 points in 16 minutes. He also had 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Dante Langly had 12 points, 3 boards, 1 assist and a steal. Both Danny Delsol-Lowry and Nosa Onabor each scored 10 points. Delsol-Lowry added 7 rebounds, 6 assists and 5 steals to fill up the stat sheet. Onabor had 4 rebounds and 2 steals. Kristoff Saunders had 9 points and 7 rebounds in 20 minutes of floor time.

The Bengals, winners of 4 straight after a season opening loss are now 4-1 (1-0) and will travel over to Plattsburgh to face the Cardinals at 3:00 PM today.

The Bears, who dropped their 2nd straight after opening the season with 3 wins are now 3-2 (0-1) and will host the Fredonia Blue Devils in Maxcy Hall at 3:00 PM today. 
           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2017, 11:10:43 AM
Fredonia State    60   Plattsburgh State    77

I had the Cardinals winning this one by an 88-69 final score. My margin of victory was fairly close but both teams came up a bit short of their projected totals. I'll blame that on the lousy officiating crew that did this game. ::)  Hope I don't see them again this year, but know that I probably will. :P

The Cardinals allowed the Blue Devils to hang around for most of the game before finally taking control of this one halfway through the 2nd period. Each time they opened a little daylight, Plattsburgh would fail to capitalize on their opportunities and the Blue Devils would manage to keep the lead within one or two possessions. Up 46-43 with 11:30 to play, the Cardinals got a 3 pointer from sharpshooter Nick DeAngelis, followed by a pair of layups from Eric Mack and Adam Jaquish. DeAngelis nailed another one from downtown and the 10-0 run boosted the margin to 13 points at 56-43 in the span of 3 minutes. The outcome was never in doubt after that as the lead grew to as many as 18 points.

Plattsburgh got a big lift when normal starter, Eli Bryant, came off the bench 6 minutes into the first period. Bryant provided instant offense and led all scorers at the break with 15 points. He finished with a game high of 22 points with 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Eric Mack was a high flying machine as he nearly came away with a triple-double, scoring 12 points with 10 boards and 8 blocks. I told anyone who would listen, earlier in the year, that the 6'3" leaper would lead the conference in blocked shots this year. He's certainly off to a good start. His final block of the evening came after a Blue Devil steal and Mack timed his defensive move perfectly as he soared to, not just block the shot but grab the ball with both hands as the shooter released it on the way up.  It was a move that brought the house down.

Chris Middleton, coming off a career high of 27 points on Tuesday against St Lawrence had 11 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists. Ian Howard just missed a double-double with a game high 12 rebounds and 9 points. The Cardinals also got a solid contribution from Brandon Johnson with 5 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and a block.

Fredonia was led by Kay Jackson with 17 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Freshman Jonathan McDonald looked good, as he scored 14 points and grabbed a team high 8 rebounds. He could be a strong candidate for the SUNYAC Rookie of the Year award.

Plattsburgh evened its record at 2-2 (1-0) and will host Buffalo State at 3:00 PM today in Memorial Hall.

Fredonia falls to 1-5 (0-1)  and will travel over to Potsdam to face the Bears at 3:00 PM today.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2017, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 10:00:03 AM

All time. Something tells me that there is a Oneonta, Plattsburgh and Buff State Final four looming !!
I'm thinking that that might be our best chance of all of us getting together. That would be special. I know you are pretty flexible from NYC to Oneonta !

I think Cortland and Oswego may still be the class of the SUNYAC.  Great coaches, and always have athletes who compete from start to finish.  This afternoon will tell us all a lot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2017, 01:53:36 PM
Dec. 2  A full lineup of games today with10 teams in action in 5 YAC games all tipping off at 3:00 PM


Fredonia State @    Potsdam State               3:00 PM

The Blue Devils have won the last 4 games in this series and 6 of the last 8. Don't know if the Bears have improved enough over last year to come away with a win here. Fredonia didn't look all that bad last night against the Cardinals and the Bears gave Buffalo State a tussle as well. The oddsmakers favor Potsdam by single point which makes this one a tossup. I'll wear my heart my sleeve for this one and take my alma mater to win a closely contested game. Potsdam 75  Fredonia 71.     

Brockport State @  Oneonta State         3:00 PM

The Red Dragons need a win today to avoid an 0-2 weekend at home. Port playing the final one of a 4 game week and so far they are 3-0. Will today be a letdown? Will their star have another 8 point game? The oddsmakers have Oneonta favored by a 3 point margin so it would appear that they think so. However the last time the Red Dragons beat a visiting Brockport team was in January of 2012. The Golden Eagles have won 10 of the last 12 matchups. I think they win again today. Brockport 82 Oneonta 77

Oswego State @    Cortland State        3:00 PM Co-Featured Game of the Week

Travel partners square off for the first time this year in Cortland. Last year Oswego won both meetings to avenge the 3 beatings Cortland administered in the 2015-16 season. The Red Dragons got a nice win the other night against St.John Fisher after a narrow loss to local rival Ithaca on Tuesday. Oswego off to a slow start at 1-3 will look to rebound after falling to Nazareth on Tuesday night. The oddsmakers have Cortland listed as a 6 point favorite and I agree with that assessment based on early returns. I think that the Red Dragons take this one at home by a 77-71 final score.   



Geneseo State @ New Paltz State        3:00 PM

The Knights are looking for a 2-0 road weekend and I don't think the Hawks can stop them from getting it. Neither do the oddsmakers who have installed Geneseo as 13 point favorites. The Hawks are improved but the Knights will be too much as they win this one 78- 66.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

Buffalo State  @  Plattsburgh State        3:00 PM Co-Featured Game of the Week

These two teams almost always put on a show as their fans are treated to some exciting basketball. Many down to the wire games that aren't decided until the final shot has occurred, in the past few years. I don't think today's game will be any different. The Bengals have a pair of big men that will wreak havoc against anyone's defense and will usually put continuous pressure on the ball as you try to implement your offense. Yesterday they had 19 steals against Potsdam. The Cardinals are still short handed but if they can cut their turnovers and take care of the ball they should be able to hang with the Bengals even without their best player. The oddsmakers have made Buffalo State a 2 point favorite in this one. I, of course, will pick my Cardinals to pull off the mild upset. Plattsburgh comes away with a close win by a final score of 88-83.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 02:56:04 PM
At 60 years old I never knew that you could hook up a computer to a t v.  So glad my wife figured it out last night   Now I know why they call it a smart tv. Gotta watch my BENGALS!  Got my popcorn ready!  Ain't been this pumped in a while!

Go BENGALS!

TTA!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 02, 2017, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 10:00:03 AM

All time. Something tells me that there is a Oneonta, Plattsburgh and Buff State Final four looming !!
I'm thinking that that might be our best chance of all of us getting together. That would be special. I know you are pretty flexible from NYC to Oneonta !

I think Cortland and Oswego may still be the class of the SUNYAC.  Great coaches, and always have athletes who compete from start to finish.  This afternoon will tell us all a lot.

Trust me thebear. I was in no way saying that Buff Sate , Oneonta and PLattsburgh were favorites  or even deserving of a final four appearance. Just explaining to All-Time how it would be possible to put his All-Time...Magicman...Bengalsrule meet and greet together.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 15, 2017, 03:04:53 PM
  Well today is the DAY!!   SUNYAC 2017 edition gets started.  Not 1 for game predictions (ill leave that to the more "seasoned" veterans of these boards), however a quick look at the rosters reveals 1 thing. The PLATTSBURGH Cards are loaded! Which explains why the Magicman has been so quiet ( because he's been gushing over the abundance of riches that will appear on campus at 101 Broad street). 12 returning members including their top 9 scorers!!!!!!   I can't figure out how they just got 7 votes in the "others receiving votes" category!  I guess that's gonna be Keene States problem Saturday...and the SUNYACs problem later.


That's my 1st paragraph about what 2017 season should look like and who the favorite should be. After today, I obviously hit that 1 right on the nose! The Cards put a good old fashioned on my beloved BENGALS!!  No need to dissect where this 1 went bad (others can do that ). For a team with 7 freshman, this day was gonna come sooner than later!  I just really feel for my guys as they begin an 8 hour bus ride home. I am encouraged in that a 24 point halftime deficit finished at 27 pt loss( including 2 pts Card pts. with 7 seconds left).

Actually you can all me encouraged.

I'm encouraged because I've watched head Coach Ansari turn boys 2 men while running the Turner Carroll High School program over 20 year ago ( 3 state titles). He is the greatest builder of men that I have ever seen at this or the high school level. He builds not only better ball player...but  more importantly he build better MEN!  He does this because he loves his players and wants them to succeed beyond the basketball court.

I'm encouraged because his top assistant, Kevin Glover ( Canisius College Grad), played professional baseball in the Cleveland Indians Organization. He knows about long road trips and how to learn from bad outings. He has been on the BUff State staff since Ansari arrived. And he was coach Ansaris first PG in high school too. He's the father of a 4 year starter at Buff State. And he loves his BENGALS.

I'm encouraged because assistant coach Malik Campbell (Syracuse grad) has had similar experiences when playing for Jim Boehiem at Syracuse U (along with playing football). He too played for coach faj at Turner Carroll where he too learned the Ansari way. He's a zone specialist who doesn't bite his tongue. That brother is gonna drop some science next week on these boys. Because he loves his BENGALS.

I'm encouraged because assistant coach Mark Gross (Buff State Grad), earned a SUNYAC title under Coach Ansari (2011). He isn't so far removed from his playing days so that the boys  know that they can bounce stuff of of him that maybe they don't feel comfortable enough asking other coaches. And Mark will give the the right answer. Because he loves his BENGALS!

I'm encouraged because assistant coach Tariq Ansari ( Buff State grad) understands his father strategy better than anyone and is not afraid to interject when players are confused  or out of line. He too played for coach Faj at Turner Carroll. 'Riq gives a damn. This **** is personal. And you can be sure he loves him some BENGALS!!!

And so I'm sure when folks read the score they may say "Damn...bengalsrule must be in shock"  Fear not d3 brethren. Aint no shock here. Today Plattsurgh was the better team. End of story. But with the coaches and players that we have a BUff State I'm excited about what the future holds for my beloved BENGALS!

There's a scene in the movie "Man on fire"  Staring Denzel Washington ("Creasey"). At some point Denzels best friend is being interviewed by mexican police because Creasey is taking out the entire mexican mafia (or something like that) . He says... "Creasey's art is death...and he is about to paint his masterpiece".

Fajri's art is making the boys under his care better MEN and ball players. I have no doubt...he's about to paint his masterpiece!

I love these boys. Now more than ever!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 02, 2017, 06:25:57 PM
Parity you ask? After 24 hours there are only 2 undefeated teams in SUNYAC, with 6 at 1-1!  This 1 is gonna come down to last day of season
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 03, 2017, 12:49:35 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
Plattsburgh State 95   Buffalo State 68.

I had the Cardinals winning this one in an 88-83 shootout. Plattsburgh scored a few more than I thought they would and the Bengals failed to score as many.

This game didn't turn out as a very close contest like I thought it would. The Bengals didn't have a good day in Memorial Hall, as the Cardinals did to them what they usually do to others...create havoc on defense that leads to steals and turnovers. On Friday night the Bengals had 19 steals against Potsdam State. Today the Cardinals had 10 steals against the Bengals in the first half alone that resulted in a 56-34 halftime edge for Plattsburgh. The Cardinals broke open a close game 7 minutes into the first half when they turned an 8-7 advantage into a 19-10 lead with 13:16 left in the period. Buffalo State would come back and cut the lead to 3 points at 21-18 but the Cardinals would then make the definitive move and basically put this one away early. With 10 minutes left in the half Plattsburgh got a pair of free throws from Ian Howard, who then stole the ball on the Bengals next possession and was fouled again. Howard made another pair from the stripe to stretch the lead to 7 points. Eli Bryant then scored on a drive to the basket and followed that up with a 3 pointer to make it 30-18. Chris Middleton got an offensive rebound and scored inside and then Bryant buried a second three pointer. Middleton got another offensive rebound and another put back to end the run, but the score was now 37-18. Plattsburgh continued to lead by 17 to 20 points for the rest of the period. Tim Smith came into the game and hit a pair of 3 pointers in just over a minute apart. The lead ballooned to 25 before a buzzer beating 3 pointer by the Bengal's Malik Turner made the halftime score 56-34.

The 2nd half was more of the same for the Bengals as they scored the same amount of points as they did in the first half to end up with 68 for a total. Plattsburgh maintained a lead that drifted between 18 and 29 points  for the remainder of the game.

For the 2nd night in a row Plattsburgh's  Eli Bryant came off the bench to capture scoring honors with a game high 23 points in 22 minutes of court time. He added 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist while shooting 9x18 from the field. He probably would have been the SUNYAC Player of the Week for his two performances this weekend had Hamed Shamseldin not been All World against Medaille and Hobart.

Chris Middleton fired in 17 points, grabbed 7 rebounds and had 3 steals along with 1 helper. Eric Mack only took 6 shots but made 5 of them to finish with 11 points, 4 rebounds and 1 assist in 17 minutes on the floor. Ian Howard was the blue collar worker of the day as he just missed a double-double with 10 points and a game high 9 rebounds. He added a pair of assists and a steal.  Brandon Johnson had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and a block. Tim Smith only played 6 minutes but hit 2 big 3 pointers with his only 2 shots.

The Bengals were led, as usual by Mike Henry with 17 points and a team high 8 rebounds. Sir. Quinton Campbell added 15 points and 7 rebounds. Sheldon Adams had 11 points, 2 assists and 2 steals. Malik Turner  chipped in with 8 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.

The Cardinals won the statistics battle shooting 53% from the field (35x66) to 37.9% (22x58) for Buff State. Plattsburgh was 8x18 from long range (44.4%) to 6x19 (31.6%)for the Bengals. The visitors did have an edge at the stripe making 18x26 (69.2%) to 17x31 for the Cards. (54.8%)

Plattsburgh had 46 rebounds to 32 for Buff State. The Cardinals also won the turnover battle as they gave the ball away 17 times, while the Bengals had a total of  23  TO's.

The officiating crew for this game had trouble keeping their whistles in their pocket for any stretch of the game. They called a total of 43 fouls (23 on Buff State, 20 on Plattsburgh) and many of them were incidental contact, that disrupted the flow of the game. A lot of their violation calls were questionable as well. Sometimes less is more, and some of these guys need to learn that.

Plattsburgh State has now won 3 in a row to improve to 3-2 overall and 2-0 in the conference. They are currently in first place all by themselves. They will be back in action on Tuesday December 5th when they travel to Middlebury, Vermont to take on the 4th ranked team in the country. The Panthers will be heavy favorites to win that game as the oddsmakers have already made the Cardinals 18 point underdogs.

Buffalo State drops to 4-2 overall and 1-1 in the YAC. They return to action this coming weekend as first Oswego State and then Cortland State will visit the Queen City on Friday night and Saturday afternoon. They are then off to Virginia to participate in the Hampden-Sydney Holiday Classic on Dec.16th and 17th.

             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2017, 08:29:05 AM
Scores from the games of December 2nd

"Not in our House" was a familiar refrain, heard by all 5 visiting teams.        

Fredonia State    52 Potsdam State 88

I had the Bears winning by a 75-71 final score. Potsdam took control of this game early and turned it into a rout. They were up 51-26 at the break and cruised to the finish line. Dante Langley was the big horse in this one for the Bears as he had a game high 24 points and game high 7 rebounds. Nosa Onabor was close behind with 19 points and 4 rebounds. 14 players broke into the scoring column for Potsdam.

Isaiah Ice led the Blue Devils with 9 points.

Potsdam improves to 4-2 overall and 1-1 in conference play. They will travel 10 miles down Route 11 to take on St Lawrence on Tuesday, December 5th at 8:00 PM

Fredonia drops to 1-6 overall and 0-2 in the conference.     They will travel to Alfred State on Tuesday for a 7:30 PM tipoff.

Brockport   State 83  Oneonta State  87

I had Brockport winning this one by an 82-77 final score. The Golden Eagles were only a point away from my prediction but The Red Dragons scored 10 more than I thought they would to pull off the mild upset. My total of 159 was only a point off and my margin of victory was also only a point away even if it was the other team. The crystal ball gets a little foggy at times, especially when I'm pressed for time. Had I looked a little deeper into the swirling mists I would have discovered that Oneonta was destined to win this game. :D

No way did Coach Conover want his troops to open conference play with an 0-2 record at home and he must have said the right things after the loss on Friday to Geneseo.  Brockport opened up an early lead at 11-6 behind their tandem of Hamed Shamseldin...7 quick points and Justin Summers...4 points, but Oneonta used the 3 point play of both the new and old fashioned variety to keep it close. Down 12-9 after 7:30 had gone by they used back to back layups from Deegan Harrison, 17 seconds apart, to grab their first lead at 13-12. They would move in front 20-14 but the Golden Eagles caught them on consecutive  3 pointers by Dwayne Daniel and Josh Nelson. Once again Oneonta moved in front by a 5 point margin and this time they never looked back. They were up 39-33 at the break and maintained a lead between 5 and 12 points for most of the 2nd half. The Golden Eagles made one last push with 4 minutes left to play when they got to within a single possession at 68-65 after a Mike O'Hara layup. Both teams misfired on their next possessions and then Kevin Macklin applied the finishing touch with back to back 3 pointers, in a 32 second span, to build the lead back to 9 points at 74-65. There was still some drama left, however, as Shamseldin was fouled on a 3 point attempt and made all 3 from the stripe to make it 83-80. After Oneonta's Dwayne Freeman made a pair from the line with 8 seconds left, Shamseldin buried another one from long range to make it 85-83 with 3 ticks remaining. Freeman was fouled and made 2 more free throws and this one was history.

Kevin Mackin led the Red Dragons with 17 points. He was 5x9 from the field including 4x6 from behind the arc. Carson Jacobs had 15 points, 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Dwayne Freeman had 13 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Matt Boyd just missed a triple double with 9 points, a team high 9 rebounds, and a game high 12 assists.

Hamed Shamseldin continued his torrid ways with a game high 28 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Justin Summers had a big night as well, compiling a double-double of 19 points and 13 rebounds. Tyler Collins came off the bench to add 14 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Oneonta improves to 4-2 overall and 1-1 in the YAC. They will return to action on Tuesday December 5th with a game at Oswego State that tips off at 7:30.

Brockport falls to 4-2 overall and is also 1-1 in the conference. They are off until next weekend when they make the long trip North to take on Plattsburgh State on Friday night at 7:30 PM and Potsdam on Saturday at 3:00 PM.


Oswego State  70    Cortland State  77

This one could be my closest prediction of the year as I missed it by a single point. I had Cortland winning by a 77-71 final score and that missed free throw by Jamir Ferebee with 13:28 left in the 2nd half is the one that prevented me from perfection. I'll be sure to remind him of that fact on  February 3rd when he visits Plattsburgh. ;)

Cortland jumped out to an 8-0 lead in this one and they were never headed. Oswego trailed the entire game except for a brief moment early in the 2nd period when they fought back from a 39-32 halftime deficit. Ian Schupp, who had 7 three pointers on the day, opened the 2nd half with 3 of them and together with a layup from Tyler Pierre outscored the Red Dragons 11-4 to tie the game at 43 with 16:15 left to play. It was the only tie of the game and Cortland promptly scored the next 7 points to go back in front 50-43. The Lakers never got closer than 3 points after that and the lead grew to as much as 12 points with 47 seconds to go.

Cortland had 4 players in double figures led by James Morales who had 21 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists.
Justin Cooper was right behind him with a double-double of 17 points, 11 rebounds and 4 assists. Zach Lydon had 14 points, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks, while Carrel Joseph had 11 points, 8 boards and 2 assists.

Ian Schupp led the Lakers and grabbed scoring honors with 23 points and 3 assists. He was 8x18 from the field but an even better 7x11 from long distance. That means he was 1x7 from inside the arc. Coach Leone needs to tell him to stop trying to take those short range shots and concentrate on his specialty. :D
Jamir Ferebee had 17 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, a block and a steal. Tyler Pierre added 14 points and a team high 9 rebounds. Liam Sanborn had a game high 8 assists, 4 points, 2 rebounds and a steal. Josh Ivy came off the bench and had 6 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal in 17 minutes of court time.

Cortland improves to 4-1 overall and 1-0 in the YAC. They will be back in action on Tuesday when they host New Paltz at 7:30 PM.

Oswego falls to 1-4 overall and 0-1 in conference play. They will host Oneonta State on Tuesday at 7:30 PM

Geneseo State  60  New Paltz State 73

The upset special of the day as New Paltz surprises the Knights and gets their first conference win since Feb. 20th 2016, a stretch that saw them lose 19 consecutive SUNYAC games. It must feel good for Coach Kenny and his Hawk players to get off the schneid on that one. I had the Knights winning this game by a 78-66 score but it didn't surprise me when I saw the result. I said earlier that the Hawks were an improved team this year and I expect them to win a few more games.

The first 10 minutes of the game were closely contested and saw the Knights jump out to an early 6 point lead at 13-7. The Hawks finally caught them at 13 all when Corey Garcia hit a 3 pointer. Dylan Balducci nailed one after a couple of empty possessions by both teams and the Hawks were up 16-13, in the middle of an 18-0 run that gave then a 25-13 advantage with 9 minutes left in the period. Balducci had 8 of those 18 points to fuel that run. The Knights would come back from the double digit deficit and close within a single point to trail at the break 33-32.

The teams traded leads to open the 2nd half until the Hawks moved in front 49-39 with another 9-0 run after 6 minutes had gone by in the period. The closest the Knights could get after that was 4 points and most of the time the lead was in the 7 to 12 point range.

Kevin Coyle led the Hawks with a game high 16 points and 5 assists. Brandon Guest had a double-double of 12 points and a game high 16 rebounds. Dylan Balducci had 13 points and 4 rebounds while Corey Garcia had 12 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists.

Quinn Carey was he high man for the Knights, tying for game honors with 16 points. Kevin Crockett was close behind with 15 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Tommy Eastman had 9 points,  a team high 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and a block.

New Paltz improves to 2-4 overall and 1-1 in the SUNYAC. They will travel to Cortland for a 7:30 PM game on Tuesday, December 5th.

Geneseo drops to 3-3 overall and 1-1 in the conference. They will host the University of Rochester on Tuesday in a 7:00 PM start.

   
Buffalo State  68    Plattsburgh State    95

And yes parity is present in the YAC....and so is parody. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2017, 05:00:19 PM
In the biggest surprise of the week (just kidding, we all knew it was just a formality) Hamed Shamseldin is named the SUNYAC Player of the Week.

Here's the writeup from the YAC website:

Hamed Shamseldin, MBB, AOW, Brockport

Dec 04, 2017
Shamseldin was the key to an impressive week for Brockport. In the first game of the week against Medaille College, Hamed recorded a triple-double, which included 26 points and 11 rebounds and assists, both of which are career highs. On the second game of a back to back, Shamseldin racked up a career-high 42 points, 6 assists, 9 rebounds and added 6 steals. Over the weekend against Oneonta, Hamed scored 28 points and grabbed 8 boards. Overall, Shamseldin finished the week averaging 26.0 ppg, 5.8 apg, 7.8 rbg in 36.5 mpg.



This was just another week at the office for Hamed, albeit a good week. I have a feeling this won't be the only week he wins this award. Hey Hamed, just don't  go off in the 2 games you play Plattsburgh State. Save it for someone else (preferably Cortland) or the magicman will get out his magic wand and put a hex on you. ;D   


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 05, 2017, 12:18:34 PM
Beware of the Magic Wand  :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2017, 01:11:17 PM
Dec. 5     8 teams in action today in 6 games. Only Brockport State and Buffalo State are idle.

I'm off to Middlebury shortly to watch my Cardinals take on the #2 ranked team in the country. Only time for some quick picks here.

#17 Rochester  @  Geneseo  State        7:00 PM

Geneseo also has to face a Top 25 team tonight as they host the University of Rochester, currently ranked at #17 in the D3hoops Top 25. Geneseo is coming off a road win at Oneonta, a game I expected them to lose, and  a road loss to New Paltz in a game I expected them to win. The oddsmakers expect them to lose this game as they favor the Yellowjackets by 7 points. I expect them to lose as well so maybe they will win. Rochester takes this one 72-67. But I hope I'm wrong.


     
Fredonia State  @  Alfred State                7:30 PM

The Blue Devils need a win badly and this might be their best opportunity for a while. The point spread still is in favor of the Pioneers from Alfred State by a 4 point margin. They beat Elmira, who beat Oswego State. Can you see where I'm going here? I'd like to pick the Blue Devils but they have to prove to me they can win games where they should be competitive. After the whipping Potsdam put on them last Saturday, I can't pick them today. Alfred State 77 Fredonia 72.
   
New Paltz State   @  Cortland State        7:30 PM

The Hawks surprised Geneseo over the weekend and are looking to start a winning sreak. The Red Dragons are looking to stay undefeated in conference play and move into a tie for the top spot. The oddsmakers have made Cortland an 18 point favorite in this one. I have to agree and think the Red Dragons will win by a comfortable margin. Cortland 84 New Paltz 65.

   
Oneonta  State   @  Oswego State    7:30 PM

The Red Dragons are slight favorites in this one by a single point. I think they beat the Lakers who are struggling this year without a full lineup. Oneonta 78 Oswego 74

Potsdam  @    St. Lawrence        8:00

The Bears are rated as double digit underdogs here but I think they can win this game. St. Lawrence is favored by 11 points but I'm taking Potsdam to pull off the upset by a 76-72 final score. 

Plattsburgh State  @  #2 Middlebury     7:30 PM

The Cardinals haven't had a lot of luck against Middlebury the past few years, losing the last 3 games against the Panthers. Tonight looks to be more of the same as the Panthers are undefeated and come into this contest with their loftiest ranking in a number of years as they moved up to #2 in the D3hoops Top 25 that was released last night.  The Cardinals have put together 3 wins in a row after opening the season with 2 losses against Keene State and Skidmore,  teams expected to do quite well this year. Skidmore is ranked #16 in the D3hoops Top 25 and Keene State has been receiving votes in each poll so far. Middlebury comes into this game with a 4-0 record but hasn't played a particularly dfficult schedule so far. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 14 point favorite.

Plattsburgh is still without their best player but has the ability to win this game if they play their best ball and are hitting a normal percentage of their 3 point attempts. I expect the Panthers to come away with a win here but I'm still picking my Cardinals to pull off an upset and walk out of Pepin Gym with an 84-81 win.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 05, 2017, 04:33:26 PM
Magicman on a Magic Carpet Ride to Middlebury. 8-)
Would love for the Cardinals to know them off
Hope you didn't forget to bring your Magic Wand.
Enjoy the game
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2017, 08:49:14 AM
Dec. 5th  Results.   



Rochester    82     Geneseo State  60

The Yellowjackets stung the hell out of the Knights in this one as they win by 22 points. I thought Rochester would win but believed it would be a lot closer.

Fredonia State  74    Alfred State  51

My prediction of a Fredonia loss in this game was really an attempt to force the Blue Devils to prove me wrong...and it worked. The Blue Devils get a win as Ian Helps proved to be too much for the Pioneers to handle. Helps with a double-double of 19 points and 13 rebounds. A loss to Alfred State by a SUNYAC team would have been embarrassing.   

   
New Paltz State 73    Cortland State   89

The Red Dragons take care of business and move into a tie for first place in the conference with Plattsburgh. This score was  close to my prediction of an 84-65 Cortland win. Cortland with a double-double from Justin Cooper of 22 points and 9 rebounds, both game highs. He just missed a triple-double as he had 9 assists as well. James Morales and Nicky Bonura had 17 points each. Tristan Wissemann was the high man for the Hawks with 17 points.

   
Oneonta  41    Oswego State  47    

It must have been Throw Back Tuesday in Oswego Tuesday night as the teams decided to play without a shot clock from the looks of this score. The Lakers trailed at the end of the first half 24-16 and then held these Red Dragons to only 17 points in the 2nd half. Don't think either team will be so hard pressed for points the rest of this hoops season. Josh Ivey was the high man for the Lakers with 9 points. Tyler Pierre with a game high 11 boards. Both Ian Schupp and Liam Sanborn had 8 points for Oswego. Kevin Mackin had a game high 16 points for Oneonta along with 8 rebounds. Dwayne Freeman had12points and 8 boards. Ian Schultz also had a game high 11 rebounds, along with a game high 5 assists.   
   
Potsdam State  70    St. Lawrence  89

The Bears had no answer for the Saints starting forwards of Riley Naclerio... 26 points,14 rebounds and Ben Crawford...25 points 10 rebounds. Potsdam trailed by 10 at the break and it only got worse in the 2nd half. I thought this would be the year Potsdam might get a win in this rivalry but my score of 76-72 Potsdam, wasn't close. Nosa Onabor led the Bears with 15 points.

Plattsburgh State    68    Middlebury    92

The Cardinals only managed to make a bad day at Black Rock worse as they were handled by the Panthers rather handily. I knew that Middlebury would probably win this game but I expected a closer game and a possible upset. This was a classic "trap game" for #2 ranked Middlebury with the Panthers facing off against another undefeated ranked team on Friday when they travel to #16 Skidmore. But Coach Jeff Brown wouldn't let his Panthers look past Plattsburgh and his team came to play. The were in control of this game from the start with double digit leads throughout the contest. Plattsburgh fought back a number of times and managed to stay within striking distance as they narrowed a 14 point lead down to 8 at the half, 38-30.

Brandon Johnson opened the 2nd half with a pair of quick baskets to make it 38-34 but that was as close as the Cardinals would get. Middlebury promptly proceeded to go on a 21-3 run over the next 5 minutes as  Plattsburgh once again went on a long stretch without scoring a single point. The lead was never below 20 points after that. The Panthers had 5 guys hit double figures led by Jack Daley and Matt Folger with 14 points each.  Plattsburgh got 12 points from Eli Bryant. The Cardinals were outshot from the field and most notably from long range where the Panthers made 12 of 25 and Plattsburgh was only 5 for 19. That's a 21 point difference. The Cardinals also failed to take care of the ball as they committed 23 turnovers.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2017, 01:57:36 PM
Dec. 8    4 games on tonight's schedule, all SUNYAC contests, all starting at 7:30 PM

Potsdam State   @   Geneseo State        7:30 PM

Both teams coming into this contest having lost 3 of their last 4 games. The Bears have lost 9 straight games to Geneseo and nearly all of them have been by double digits. The oddsmakers think that will happen once again as they have listed the Knights as a 12 point favorite. Hard to pick my Bears in this one on the road. Geneseo wins 77-68.


Cortland State  @  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

The Red Dragons should take care of business here and are favored by 11 points. The Blue Devils haven't defeated Cortland in 7 years having lost 12 straight games in this series. Cortland can't look past this team because they are capable of an upset, as Plattsburgh, Geneseo and Oswego all found out last year. I don't see that happening tonight to a strong Cortland team. The Red Dragons take this one 86-68.

Oswego State  @  Buffalo State                7:30 PM

The Lakers won one on the road last time out by knocking off Oneonta with an offensive explosion of 47 points. ???They will need a few more than that tonight, if they hope to start a winning streak. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 5 point choice in this one but they better put on their dancing shoes, cause they were doing a slow waltz the last time they took the court against Plattsburgh. They will need a much better effort to beat the Lakers, who won all 3 meetings last year. I think the Bengals get a little payback                                   as they come away with a 79-75 victory.   

Plattsburgh State  @  Brockport State        7:30 PM Featured Game of the Night

Always entertaining when these two teams hook up and I wish I was courtside tonight to take this one in. I'll have to settle for watching it on my big screen TV. The teams have split their last 12 meetings but the Golden Eagles won both games last year. Brockport had won 4 games in a row after opening the season with a loss but stumbled last Saturday at Oneonta fallng to the Red Dragons 87-83. Plattsburgh won 3 in a row before falling to Middlebury on Tuesday by a lopsided 92-68 final that evened their record at 3-3   The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 6 point favorite in today's game which means nothing when these two go at it. Neither does home court advantage as they have both won numerous times in each other's house.

The Cardinals need to slow down reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week Hamed Shamseldin (thought he was a lock for the D3hoops Team of the Week as well,  but maybe he wasn't nominated by the school...he certainly had the numbers to merit inclusion on that team). If he replicates his efforts of Medaille or Hobart or Oneonta, the Cards could be in for a long night. They need to account for Justin Summers as well. Last year at Plattsburgh he was a big reason the Golden Eagles walked out of Memorial Hall with a W.

Plattsburgh is still without the services of their best player, and this team can be hit or miss without their go to guy. Poor three point shooting, and turnovers have haunted them in their 3 losses. Athleticism and their ability to run the floor have been their assets in the 3 wins. Eli Bryant has been huge the last few games coming off the bench to lead the team in scoring. Chris Middleton has picked his game up as well and the high flying Eric Mack can cause problems inside with ability to get to the rim at will. However, he has to get the ball to do so and needs more touches before the offense quickly fires up long range bombs that haven't been falling.

I'm picking the Cardinals to win (mainly because I never pick them to lose) because I think they match up well against Brockport this year and it's time for a little Cardinal revenge. The 94-88 loss last year in Plattsburgh, in one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, (52 personal fouls and 5 technical fouls called) left a bad taste and I'm hoping my guys can erase it tonight. Plattsburgh wins this one by an 83-80 final score.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 08, 2017, 02:22:59 PM
Magicman's Cardinals over Brockport

Magicman's Bears over Geneseo

Buffalo State over Oswego

Cortland over Fredonia

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2017, 08:30:25 PM
Updates on tonight's games.

Buffalo State leads Oswego 51-41 with 1619 to go in the game

Geneseo leads Potsdam 52-35 with 18:13 remaining in the game

Cortland on top of Fredonia 51-42 with 14 minutes left to play

Brockport leads Plattsburgh 47-40 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2017, 08:39:31 PM
Plattsburgh needs to clamp down on Justin Summers who is killing the Cardinals with 17 points and 6 rebounds at the half. Josh Nelson has 9 and  Hamed Shamseldin has 8 points for the Golden Eagles.

The Cardinals get 11 points and 4 boards from Eric Mack to keep them close. Chris Middleton and Adam Jaquish both have 6 points.

Brockport had a 13 point lead with 12:11 to go in the half but the Cardinals managed to rally and cut it to a single point. Brockport came back toward the end of the period to go up by 7 at the break. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2017, 11:35:51 PM
Final Scores of today's games.

Cortland State 77 Fredonia State 56.

Red Dragons win but nothing was easy here as the Blue Devils were only down 37-36 at the break.

James Morales led Cortland with a game high 21 points. Justin Cooper had 18 and Zach Lydon had 15. Lydon led the team with 8 rebounds.

Ian Helps had 18 points for the Blue Devils. Kay Jackson had 12 points and Jonathan McDonald had 10. McDonald also had a game high 10 rebounds.

I had Cortland winning 86-68. Both teams came up a bit short of my posted totals but he margin of victory was pretty close.

Oswego State 92 Buffalo State 83

The Bengals may look back at this game as the one that got away if they fail to make the postseason. They held a 12 point lead early in the 2nd half and were still up by 5 points with under 5 minutes left in the game. They couldn't hold off the Lakers though and several turnovers down the stretch proved to be costly as the Lakers did an about face and went from 5 points behind with 5:29 to play to 5 points ahead with 2:18 to play. A miss at the line on the front end of a 1&1 by Buff State and a dagger three by the Lakers' Louis Avellino at the other end put this one in the Lakers' win column.

Jamir Ferebee put up a big number with a game high 35 points, 7 assists and 4 rebounds. Tyler Pierre had 15 points and 8 rebounds while Josh Ivey had 14 points and 16 boards to give him a double-double. All those rebounds were he main reason the Bengals were killed on the boards 43-25. The Bengal didn't get any homer calls either as the Lakers went to the line 36 times (making 27) to only 16 times for Buff State (11x16).

Bryan Harrell led the Bengals with 21 points and 4 rebounds. Sheldon Adams had 19 points and 3 blocks. Mike Henry had 16 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists.

I had the Bengals winning this game by a 79-75 final but the Lakers wanted to make up for the 47 points they put on the board last game as they nearly doubled that output. 


Geneseo State 94  Potsdam State 72


Brockport State 97 Plattsburgh State 95  More later.


   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2017, 12:43:46 PM
Tough game last night. Give Oswego their due.  When it was time to put up or shut up.  They put up.
Hopefully our young guys realize that the games are 40 mins long, not 35.  Encouraged today when I see 13 years of former BENGALS players in our annual alumni game.  Takes me back to 2011 championship season when no less than 8 of those guys showed up to play today !  Hopefully that rubs off on my current BENGALS !  The only undefeated SUNYAC  team, Cortland, arrives in  less than 2 hours !  When gotta be ready. I think we will be !

I'm pumped

Go BENGALS!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2017, 03:03:27 PM
Dec. 9   Everybody in action today with 5 games on tap. All at 3:00 PM.

No time, No time, No time. Quick picks will have to do and I'll still be a bit late.
      

Potsdam State  @  Brockport   State

Brockport back in form will ride roughshod over the Bears who are 16 point underdogs. I hope they can keep it that close.  Brockport  88 Potsdam 68.

   
Cortland State   @     Buffalo State

Buffalo State favored by 1 point in this one. I don't see it that way but hope I'm wrong. Cortland 84  Buffalo State 77.


New Paltz State  @  Oneonta State

The Red Dragons will take this one and are listed as 11 point favorites. Oneonta 86 New Paltz 71.


Oswego State  @Fredonia State

The Lakers are starting to streak and should carry it for at least one more game. Favored by 7 points, I see them winning this one by a  79-67 final score.

   
Plattsburgh State     @  Geneseo State

The Knights are slim 2 point favorites in this one but I think the Cardinals will rebound and return to the North Country with a 1-1 record for the weekend...at least I sure hope they do.  Plattsburgh 87 Geneseo 81.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2017, 03:44:15 PM
Plattsburgh State leads Geneseo 50-36 at the half.

Eli Bryant once again comes off the bench and leads the Cardinals as he score 17 points in the first half. Nick DeAngelis with 10 points and Brandon Johnson with 8 points. Ian Howard with 4 points and 8 rebounds.

Tommy Eastman is the main man for the Knights with 14 points and 4 boards. Sean Crowley has 8 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2017, 03:50:04 PM
Cortland all over Buffalo State as they lead 37-13 at the break.

Zach Lydon with 14 points and Carrel Joseph with 8 to lead the Red Dragons.

Buffalo State has 5 points from  Brian Harrell and 2 other players have 4 each to account for their 13 points. I'm betting some harsh words being spoken at halftime in that locker room.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2017, 03:53:19 PM
Oswego State leads Fredonia 30-22 at the break.

Jamir Ferebee with 14 points to lead the Lakers.

Isaiah Ice with 5 points for Fredonia
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
Potsdam hanging tough with Brockport as they only trail 52-48 with 14:50 to play in the game.

Oneonta leading New Paltz  55-51 with about 10 minutes left to play.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 09, 2017, 05:05:22 PM
Final scores of Saturday' games

Plattsburgh State defeats Geneseo State 92-83.

Cortland State defeats Buffalo State 81-55

Oneonta State  73  New Paltz State 69

Brockport State 99 Potsdam State 77

Oswego State 64  Fredonia State 48


Cortland remains undefeated in conference play and is alone in firstplace with a 4-0 record as first semester conference play comes to an end.

The Standings

Cortland        4-0
Brockport      3-1
Plattsburgh   3-1
Oswego         3-1
Geneseo        2-2
Oneonta        1-2
New Paltz      1-2
Buffalo State 1-3
Potsdam        1-3
Fredonia        0-4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 09, 2017, 07:49:18 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2017, 02:13:53 PM
Boy. Do I hate Saturday basketball games in SUNYAC!  Back to back ( Saturday) horrible 1st half's.  Last week vs Plattsand yesterday vs Cortland.  Give Cortland thier due.  They shot well, made thier free throws and played some damn good defense (buff state 22-79).  It was good to see some BENGALS legends ( Jake Simmons and Norman Simmons) visit the team afterwards!  Plenty wisdom imparted on that visit. Damn I miss those boys ( captains 2011 SUNYAC championship team). 

It's only a loss if you don't learn from it.  My BENGALS are learning !  Thank GOD!

Hoping that Hampden Sydney VA is a perfect change of pace for my beloved BENGALS!

Go BENGALS!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 10, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2017, 02:13:53 PM
It was god to see some BENGALS legends ( Jake Simmons and Norman Simmons) visit the team afterwards!  Plenty wisdom imparted on that visit. Damn I miss those boys ( captains 2011 SUNYAC championship team). 

I hope you told Jake Simmons that I was asking about him last week. Miss seeing that guy as he was always one of my favorites. In talking with the coaching staff last week when they were in town they told me Jake was still in the area and doing well. His is a true story of a remarkable young man that should be made into a movie. If "The Blind Side", with Sandra Bullock, can be such a big hit movie, then Jake's story has "Oscar" written all over it.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2017, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 10, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2017, 02:13:53 PM
It was god to see some BENGALS legends ( Jake Simmons and Norman Simmons) visit the team afterwards!  Plenty wisdom imparted on that visit. Damn I miss those boys ( captains 2011 SUNYAC championship team). 

I hope you told Jake Simmons that I was asking about him last week. Miss seeing that guy as he was always one of my favorites. In talking with the coaching staff last week when they were in town they told me Jake was still in the area and doing well. His is a true story of a remarkable young man that should be made into a movie. If "The Blind Side", with Sandra Bullock, can be such a big hit movie, then Jake's story has "Oscar" written all over it.   

That is a fact Magic. That is a fact! Plus k
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 11, 2017, 11:47:30 AM
I completely agree, after reading his story, this kid is remarkable.
His will and determination to overcome his childhood and become the leader and person he has become is unbelievable.
Jake Simmons is a true inspiration and Champion.
He was always a pleasure to watch in Dewar arena back in the day.

Let's GOOOOOOO Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 11, 2017, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 11, 2017, 11:47:30 AM
I completely agree, after reading his story, this kid is remarkable.
His will and determination to overcome his childhood and become the leader and person he has become is unbelievable.
Jake Simmons is a true inspiration and Champion.
He was always a pleasure to watch in Dewar arena back in the day.

Let's GOOOOOOO Bengals.

My man!!  Jake was definitely a unique person!! Plus k
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2017, 03:47:22 AM
Lots of worthy candidates for the latest SUNYAC Player of the Week, among them:

Hamed Shamseldin Brockport...Last week's winner had another banner weekend scoring 54 points, with 10 rebounds, 15 assists and 4 steals in 2 wins over Plattsburgh and Potsdam.

Jamir Ferebee Oswego...Led the Lakers to a 3-0 week with wins over Oneonta, Fredonia, and Buffalo State. He totaled 70 points and had 11 boards, 8 assists and 4 steals.

Eli Bryant Plattsburgh State...Came off the bench to lead the Cardinals in scoring for the 4th and 5th straight games over a 1-1 weekend. Plattsburgh lost 97-95 at Brockport before a road win at Geneseo by a 92-83 score. In the 2 games Bryant totaled 58 points, 8 rebounds, and 3 assists. He was 17x32 from the field, 6x10 from long distance and a perfect 18x18 from the line.

Justin Cooper Cortland State...Led the Red Dragons to a 3-0 week in the YAC and sole possession of first place, with wins over New Paltz, Fredonia and Buff State. Scored 59 points, with 29 rebounds, 17 assists and 4 steals. Shot 19x27 from the field, 3x8 from behind the arc and 18x20 from the stripe.

Apologies to any other worthy candidates I may have left out....it's getting late and I'm tired.


AND THE WINNER IS...





Justin Cooper, Cortland State    (Write up from the SUNYAC website)

Cortland's Justin Cooper continued to show his prowess on the court, leading the Red Dragons to a 3-0 week.  Against three conference opponents, Cooper averaged 19.7 PPG and 9.7 rebounds per game and shot a superior 70.4% from the field.  The junior has his best game against New Paltz when posted a double-double (22 points/11 rebounds) en route to an 89-73 win.  Cortland now sits at the top of SUNYAC conference play with a 4-0 record (7-1 overall)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2017, 04:00:03 AM
Just spotted the Team of the Week on D3hoops front page. Our reigning POTW Justin Cooper was named to the D3hoops Team of the Week as well. Congratulations to Justin for the national honor.

Here's the link to that story:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2017-18/week3

With a little luck we could have had back to back weeks with a SUNYAC player on the D3hoops Team of the Week. Hamed Shamseldin certainly deserved to be on it with the monster week he had last week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 12, 2017, 07:33:48 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2017, 04:00:03 AM
With a little luck we could have had back to back weeks with a SUNYAC player on the D3hoops Team of the Week. Hamed Shamseldin certainly deserved to be on it with the monster week he had last week.

Make sure the SIDs know to nominate players.  That's the big hurdle; if they're not on the list, they can't be considered.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 12, 2017, 07:33:48 AM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2017, 04:00:03 AM
With a little luck we could have had back to back weeks with a SUNYAC player on the D3hoops Team of the Week. Hamed Shamseldin certainly deserved to be on it with the monster week he had last week.

Make sure the SIDs know to nominate players.  That's the big hurdle; if they're not on the list, they can't be considered.

What can a school do if there SIDs don't nominate anyone who a team feels is deserving!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on December 12, 2017, 01:26:59 PM
That can usually be resolved with a simple conversation between the coach and the SID. Maybe it just fell through the cracks this week since Brockport had a lot going on with its football team in Texas.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2017, 05:54:04 PM
Tuesday  December 12th  1 game on tap today.

Western Connecticut  @  New Paltz State  6:30 PM

The Hawks are listed as 5 point home dogs in this game but the Colonials already own a season opening win against Brockport by a 66-63 score and the Golden Eagles handled New Paltz  already.  New Paltz is an improving team but  I think that Western Connecticut will probably win this one by a larger margin than 5 points. Colonials 83  New Paltz 72.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 12, 2017, 08:42:01 PM
Hawks win 83-75, but looking at the box score it's a little hard to figure out how they did it. West Conn had two near triple-doubles and four guys who scored as many or more points than anybody on New Paltz. .467 to .347 from the floor and 47-39 rebounding edge the difference. Good win for NP heading into the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2017, 08:59:55 PM
With a final score of 83-75 I nearly had a perfect score in reverse. Had Western Connecticut winning 83-72. Glad that I had it backwards and the improved Hawks got the W instead of the team from  the Little East.

I said at the beginning of the season that Coach Kenney would make this program better and he's already done so. The Hawks with 4 guys in double figures and 10 guys with 4 points or more. Western had 4 guys in double figures and 2 other guys with 2 points to account for all their scoring.

Brandon Guest led the way for the Hawks with a double-double of 14 points and 10 boards, along with 4 assists and 2 steals. Tristan Wissemann also had 14 points and 8 rebounds. Kevin Coyle had 12 points and 4 rebounds. Dylan Balducci added 10 points and 3 rebounds.

New Paltz improves to 3-6 for the season. They are off until 12-29 when they face host  #9th ranked Lycoming in a holiday tournament at 6:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2017, 07:18:12 PM
December 14th   One game today in the YAC

Oswego at St Lawrence    8:00 PM

Which Laker team will show up tonight?...the one that lost to Elmira 103 (yikes) to 90 or the one that comes into this game having defeated 3 conference teams in a row, Oneonta, Buffalo State, and Fredonia.

The oddsmakers have the Saints winning a close one here by 2 points,  but I'm taking the Lakers to win by a 78-70 final score and stretch that winning streak to 4 games. I do hope that SLU's Riley Naclerio has a big game since I have him on my fantasy team. He gave me 50 fantasy points the last game he played against Potsdam State.  Would like a repeat of that performance tonight.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on December 15, 2017, 11:43:44 PM
mm--  did not see Naclerio in box score ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2017, 02:33:46 AM
Quote from: TheOsprey on December 15, 2017, 11:43:44 PM
mm--  did not see Naclerio in box score ???

No, I watched the game and he didn't play. I figured he was hurt and missed the game. Later I found out that he had a season ending injury so I will be replacing him. I feel bad for him since this is his senior year. I spoke with him for about 15 minutes a couple of weeks ago when he was in Plattsburgh and told him he was on my fantasy team. He got a big kick out of that. Fine young man and I hope he is able to get a medical redshirt if he wants to come back next year. He should be eligible for one as he only played in 7 games.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 16, 2017, 03:00:57 AM
Beautiful Farmville VA.  I can finally take Farmville off of my bucket list after deciding to go south to support my BENGALS.  Ooowwwwee.  I had no idea what I was missing. Had some Bojangles chicken that was out of the world.  Now I can only hope that my BENGALS play " lights out" tomorrow!

Go BENGALS!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2017, 03:43:41 AM
Oswego State 100  St Lawrence 63

The Lakers were all over the Larries right out of the gate and jumped out to early leads of 9-2, 20-6 and 30-8. The Saints came back to cut the lead to single digits at 46-38 with 1:32 left in the first half but the Lakers got a 3 pointer from Ian Schupp, his 3rd one of 6, that he had on the night and a layup by Louis Avellino to end the period and go into the break with a 51-38 advantage. That was as close as the Larries would get.

The 2nd frame was all Oswego as they doubled the Saints by scoring 49 points to SLU's 25. Oswego quickly went up by 20 points as the lead just kept growing to 30 and ultimately 41 points at 100-59.

St. Lawrence was in trouble before the game even tipped off when they had to play this game without their leading scorer and rebounder, senior big man, Riley Naclerio. The 6'9" forward suffered a season ending injury and without their go-to guy to rely on, the Saints will be up against it for the rest of the year.

Oswego was led by Ian Schupp and Brandan Gartland who both had a game high 20 points. Scupp added 4 assists, while Gartland had 4 rebounds. Jamir Ferebee had 14 points, a game high 6 assists and 6 rebounds, while Tyler Pierre had 13 points and 8 boards. Liam Sanborn had 11 points, a game high 9 rebounds and also tied for the high with 6 assists.

St. Lawrence got 11 points from Pierre Coffy and 10 points from Cam Keely. Keely added 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Ben Crawford had 8 points and 6 rebounds, while Jack Twardy had 7 points and 6 rebounds.

Local product for St. Lawrence, from my neck of the woods, (I can use that phrase cause it's an Oswego State game and NBC Weatherman, Al Roker, went to Oswego State) freshman Kevin Murray, from Plattsburgh's Seton Catholic High School, saw his first double digit minutes of the season and responded with 6 points and 2 rebounds in 13 minutes. I see good things from this youngster down the road.

Oswego improved to 5-4 overall (3-1 in the SUNYAC) and will be off until December 29th when they travel back up North to the same place as they were on Friday...Canton, New York, to face the other D3 team in that town...the SUNY-Canton Kangaroos.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2017, 05:26:38 AM
December 16th    Two games on the schedule for today


Buffalo State  @  Hampden-Sydney        2:00 PM   Luck Stone Holiday Classic at Hampden-Sydney

The Bengals take on the first of two Old Dominion Athletic Conference opponents when they tackle another team of  big cats...the Tigers of tournament host Hampden-Sydney College. The Tigers own a couple of decent wins this year despite their 3-4 overall record, most recently defeating D3hoops #23 Emory University 90-85.

The Bengals have dropped 3 conference games in a row and now sit at 4-4 on the year. They are listed by the oddsmakers as a slight 3 point underdog in this one. I think the Bengals will be up against it in this one and I see them coming out on the short end of a 85-79 final score.

Cortland State     @   SUNY-Old Westbury        2:00 PM

The Red Dragons are 7-1 and winners of 5 in a row. Currently Cortland is all alone in 1st place in the SUNYAC with a 4-0 record and they sit a game in front of Plattsburgh, Brockport and Oswego who are all tied with 3-1 records. Cortland got a little love this week in the D3hoops Top 25 poll as they were mentioned for the first time with 4 points. That 2 point loss to Ithaca College back on the 28th of November is keeping them from a loftier position but they will move upward if they keep winning.

Old Westbury is 3-3 and their most recent effort was a loss to Mount St. Mary by a 77-64 score. Potsdam State beat Mount St. Mary's back on 11-21 by an 84-81 score. The oddsmakers have Cortland listed as a 13 point favorite in this one but I think they win it by a bigger margin than that. Cortland 87 Old Westbury 68. 
 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2017, 05:39:46 PM
Buffalo State defeats Hampden Sydney 95-86 as all 5 starters hit for double figures.

The Bengals wanted to make a liar out of the magicman and I'm glad they did. Should have known not to pick against the Bengals in a holiday tournament but forgot that they always seem to win when they play in someone else's holiday extravaganza.  Keeping the streak alive once again.

Now tomorrow go out and take down the other ODAC team you have to play, Bridgewater (Va.),  and make it a double your fun weekend.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2017, 05:47:47 PM
Cortland all over Old Westbury 90-66 led by Zach Lydon's double-double of 20 points and 12 rebounds.

The Red Dragons were listening to my predictions as they made my forecast of a Cortland win by an 87-68 score almost a reality. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 16, 2017, 09:16:59 PM
There's just something about Holiday Tournaments that my BENGALS love. Today's game was a nail biter from start to finish.  I'll say this.  I had a chance to see the facilities at Hampden Sydney, and in the words of Malik Campbell ( Syracuse Basketball 98-99), the HSC locker are better than Syracuse ( D1). HSC locker room was a site to see.  Thier video room had individual reclining chairs and a movie screen.  Host school really was a class act.  I'm glad I made this journey down here.  My boys needed this win worse than ( fill in the blank).

5 players on double figures with Quinton Campbell stepped big up in the 2nd half with 15/10! Bridgewater is 1 athletic team and there will be no need for a shot clock tomorrow.  Gonna see if I can catch my boys at BUFFALO Wild Wings now. 

Proud of them boys.

Go BENGALS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2017, 06:49:58 AM
Dec. 17  Two teams in action today in Holiday Tournaments
   
Buffalo State vs Bridgewater (Va.) 12:00 PM  The Luck Stone Holiday Classic @ Hampden-Sydney, Va.

I hope the Buffalo State Bengals didn't eat too much at the Buffalo Wild Wings joint yesterday after their win over host Hampden-Sydney. Today the oddsmakers have made them a 5 point favorite over another Old Dominion Athletic Conference foe in Bridgewater (Va). This game will resemble a track meet as both teams like to race up and down the court at high speed. I'm picking the Bengals to win the Luck Stone Holiday Classic Title. Final score: Buffalo State 93 Bridgewater 79.

     
Whittier vs  Brockport State        2:00 PM    Daytona Beach Tournament

The Golden Eagles are 7 points from having an undefeated season. That is the total point difference in the 2 losses they have suffered so far this year. They are currently on a 2 game winning streak after a sweep of the conference's  North Country schools last weekend.

Whittier College is a member of the Southern California Intercollegiate Athleic Conference and bring a 2-4 record into this contest. The oddsmakers think Brockport will win this meeting by a 7 point margin. I think they will win it by more than that. Final score Brockport 91 Whittier 80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2017, 03:13:28 PM
Damn. Just when you start feeling good.  Then you run into a buzzsaw like Bridgewater.   Tough game for my boys.  And an even tougher ride home. 1-1 for the weekend in ODAC territory is gonna have to suffice.  Wish we could have pulled this 1 off.

Safe travels fellas.

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2017, 02:51:25 PM
Brockport vs Wooster

Just noticed this game has started and Brockport is trailing 24-21 with 7 minutes to play in the first half. I'll still take Brockport though they may be up against it. Oddsmakers have this game as a pick 'em. I think the Golden Eagles will prevail by an 81-78 score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2017, 03:05:41 PM
Brockport trails Wooster 38-32 at the break.

Brockport missing Coach Dunne as he caught a bug of some kind and has turned the coaching duties over to his top assistant, Joe Clark

Justin Summers with 10 points to lead Brockport. Hamed Shamseldin has 7.

Wooster has 14 points from Spencer Williams and 10 points from Reece Dupler.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2017, 05:42:37 PM
A second game scheduled for today that I didn't know about.

Cortland  vs  Southern Vermont  in Miami

The oddsmakers have the Red Dragons listed as a 9 point favorite in this one. That sounds about right but the Mountaineers are 7-1 and own a victory over a very good Keene State team so they could pull off a mild upset here and it wouldn't surprise me.  I'll take Cortland to win by an 85-77 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2017, 06:51:57 PM
Cortland defeats Southern Vermont 94-85.

Zach Lydon and Justin Cooper with a game high 23 points each. Cooper also had a game high 14 rebounds and was a perfect 7-7 from the field. Lydon had 8 boards and 4 blocks.

James Morales had 20 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds, and a steal. Nicky Bonura had 15 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Cortland improves to 9-1 and will face Washington and Lee in Miami on Wednesday Dec. 20th at 2:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 19, 2017, 02:57:59 PM
Just wanted to wish my guys, Magicman and Bengalsrule a Wonderful Holiday Season and a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.
Looking forward to some great SUNYAC Hoops in 2018.

Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2017, 05:33:56 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 19, 2017, 02:57:59 PM
Just wanted to wish my guys, Magicman and Bengalsrule a Wonderful Holiday Season and a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.
Looking forward to some great SUNYAC Hoops in 2018.

Enjoy

My man. Much appreciated All-Time. Same to you and the family.  Hope to see you Jan 20th!!



Happy Holidays to all the SUNYAC board family!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 20, 2017, 09:08:58 PM
Happy Holidays to magicman, Bengalsrule, All-Time and everyone else on this board!

Here is how the SUNYAC has done in the non-conference schedule so far:
(https://i.imgur.com/fZx01Sy.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2017, 09:24:56 PM
Merry Christmas to Bengalsrule, jdex, thebear, All-Time, AllStar,and all the other posters that frequent this board. It's a fine Christmas eve here in Plattsburgh, New York with a new coat of 4 inches of freshly fallen snow and a not too cold temperature of 18 degrees. Hope Santa brings my friends the wishes they want.  :)

Merry Christmas also to the D3hoops crew, Pat, Gordon, Dave, Ryan and the other contributors that bring us this great website that gives so many of us so much pleasure. 8-) Where would we be without it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 24, 2017, 09:38:09 PM
Posting this a little late but the latest winner of the SUNYAC PLayer of the Week was Cortland junior Zach Lydon. This was for the week of Dec. 11 through Dec 17th. Congratulations to Zach.   Here's the write up from the YAC website.


Zach Lydon, MBB, AOW, Cortland
Dec 18, 2017
This week's winner is the junior from Cortland Zach Lydon (Elizaville, N.Y.). Lydon scored 20 points and grabbed a career-high 12 rebounds in Cortland's 90-66 victory at SUNY Old Westbury. He made 9-of-12 shots shooting 75 percent from the field, including 2-of-3 attempts from 3-point range, in just 21 minutes of action.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2017, 08:04:01 PM
Potsdam State down 70-66 against Western Connecticut with 6:08 left to play ends the game on a 15-2 run to win by a final score of 81-72.

In the last few years  it was usually the Bears that would lose games that way. Nice to see that Coach Bechtel has turned that the other way.

Danny Delsol-Lowry had 19 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists and 2 steals to lead the way for Potsdam.The Bears also got 14 points and 7 rebounds from Nosa Onabor along with 13 points from Dante Langley and Dante Viskovich. Langley added 7 rebounds and Viskovich had 6 boards.  Serigne Kane had 8 points and a game high 9 rebounds.

The Bears even their record at 5-5 (1-3 YAC) and are back in action on January 5th when they travel west to take on Fredonia at 7:30 Pm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2017, 02:42:18 PM
Dec. 29  Three games on the schedule for today


Roanoke  vs  SUNY Oneonta        5:30 PM         @ Staten Island, N.Y.

The Red Dragons take on the Roanoke Maroons,  a member of the Old Dominon Athletic Conference The oddsmakers have Oneonta listed as a 4 point  underdog. Roanoke is 7-3 so far this season but has yet to beat a team with a winning record. Oneonta's record this season is 5-4 so I'm hoping Roanoke's string of losing to teams with a winning record continues. Oneonta wins this one 74-71.

   
Oswego State  vs  SUNY-Canton        6:00 PM      Utica New Years Tournament @ Utica, N.Y.

Canton is only 2-8 but they have played some quality teams and the oddsmakers have made them a 16 point underdog. Oswego is on a roll having won 4 in a row and they own double digit victories over Clarkson and St. Lawrence. Both those teams own double digit victories over Canton. It would seem like the Kangaroos are up against it today. Oswego should win this one by a final of 89-62 or something close to that.

   
New Paltz State  vs  Lycoming        6:00 PM   Louis Fleming Basinger Memorial Tournament

The Hawks take on the 9th ranked team in the country and this game has mismatch written all over it. The oddsmakers have New Paltz listed as a 22 point underdog  and 22 points is exactly what the margin of victory was when Lycoming defeated another SUNYAC team earlier this year. That was on November 18th when they beat Oneonta 108-86. Today's outcome could be worse. The Hawks should try and slow this game down if they hope to have any chance.  Lycoming still wins big 94-70.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 29, 2017, 10:53:48 PM
pretty good, Magicman, Oneonta won by 6 rather than 3 and New Paltz margin of defeat was 21, close to the predicted margin of 24. Oswego must have got a much tougher test from Canton than anticipated as the Lakers won by just 7 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2017, 03:27:40 AM
Oneonta State 65   Roanoke 59

The Red Dragons came out of the gate with a rush and jumped out to a quick 9-2 lead that soon turned into a 20-10 advantage fueled by 7 straight points from Dwayne Freeman. The Maroons closed to within 4 points but Freeman scored again, Anthony Kirkwood hit a pair of free throws and Freeman stole the ball, then fed Harrison Deegan for a layup that restored the double digit lead at 28-18. For the rest of the period Roanoke trailed by 8 to 13 points and they were down 41-32 at the break.

Someone must have hit the deja vu button because the 2nd half started out just like the first half with a 9-2 Oneonta spurt. And similar to the first half, Dan Devine scored the first basket with a layup, followed by another basket by Ian Schultz and then a 3 pointer by Freeman. Devine hit another basket inside and the lead was 50-34 with 15:20 still to play. Later Freeman hit another triple and then Carson Jacobs did likewise as the Red Dragons enjoyed their largest lead of the game of 20 points at 56-36. The Maroons trailed for most of the 2nd half by 13 to 16 points but did generate a charge with about 6 minutes left in the game. Down 63-47 they went on a 12-1 run that brought them within 5 points at 64-59 with 36 seconds to play. Oneonta went 0x9 from the field and just 2x6 from the stripe with 2 turnovers during that 6 minute stretch. They only scored 2 points in the final 6:35 of the game. Fortunately their large lead was enough to hold off Roanoke.

Dwayne Freeman led the Red Dragons and captured scoring honors for the evening with 20 points. he also had 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Ian Schultz had 12 points and a team high 7 rebounds with a pair of assists. Matthew Boyd covered all the bases as he had 9 assists, 6 rebounds, 5 points, 4 steals, and 2 blocks.

Roanoke was led by Josh Freund with 13 points a nd a game high 9 rebounds. Joey Miller had 11 points, followed by Caleb Jordan and C.J. Miles with 10 each.

Oneonta  improves to 6-3 overall (2-2 in the SUNYAC) and will take on the Salisbury Seagulls in the championship game of the Tournament of Heroes on Saturday at 3:00 PM. Salisbury defeated the host Staten Island team by a 93-75 final score.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2017, 04:11:13 AM
Oswego State 77  Canton 70

The Lakers almost got more than they bargained for with a determined effort by the Kangaroos to pull off the big upset. Canton played fairly even with Oswego for much of the first half that saw 4 ties and 5 lead changes. The score was still a 1 possession game at 35-32 with 1:48 left in the period but the Lakers got a pair of layups from Jamir Ferebee to end the half and go into the break up 39-32. Those 7 points would be the final margin of victory as the Roos played Oswego even in the 2nd frame with each team scoring 38 points. Several times it looked like Oswego finally had Canton on the ropes as they opened up double digit leads of 13 and 12 points but both times the Roos came back to cut the margin to 7 points, the 2nd time at 65-58 with 2:45 to play. The Lakers hit 10 of 14 free throws down the stretch to preserve the 7 point win.

Tyler Pierre was the big horse for the Lakers as he had a double-double that gave him team scoring and game rebounding honors with 21 points and 11 boards. Jamir Ferebee had 15 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists, while Brandon Gartland had 14 points and 4 assists.

Canton was led by Adrian Williams who had a game high 22 points. Danny Santana had 17 points and Deon Foster had 11. Jordan Stewart had 12 points, 9 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.

Oswego after starting out 1-4 now ups their record to 6-4 with their 5th straight win. They are 3-1 in the conference. The Lakers will  now take on the host Utica College Pioneers in the championship game of the Utica College Basketball Classic on Saturday at 5:00 PM. The Pioneers defeated Anna Maria College 99-73 on Friday night.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2017, 05:31:40 AM
Lycoming 89 New Paltz State 68

The Hawks were hanging around in the first half of the opening period and were only down 22-16 with 12 minutes to play in the stanza. However they got hammered from that point until the buzzer sounded as Lycoming outscored them 32-11 over the rest of the period. The Warriors were able to double them up 54-27 at the break. The Hawks were down 32-20 with 9 minutes to play, but Lycoming went on a 17-1 run  over the next 6 minutes to build the huge halftime lead.

New Paltz did come back a bit in the 2nd half but the Lycoming bench played 69 of the 100 2nd half minutes and all 14 players on the team scored. 12 players had double digit minutes in the game or the MOV could have been much larger.

New Paltz got 13 points each from Tristan Wissemann and Dylan Balducci. Nick Paquette had 12 points and a game high 8 rebounds.

Lycoming only had 2 guys in double figures with Chris Wallace capturing scoring honors with 15 points in 17 minutes of floor time. Calvin Chandler came off the bench to score 12 points and grab 6 rebounds.

New Paltz falls to 3-7 overall (1-3 YAC) and will meet the Kings College Monarchs on Saturday at 1:00 PM in the consolation game of the Lycoming Tournament.  Kings lost to Carnegie Mellon 80-68 on Friday.   

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
Dec. 30  Five games taking place today involving conference teams. Rushed for time so quick picks are the order of the day.

   

New Paltz State  vs  King's College        1:00 PM   Louis Basinger Memorial Tournament @ Williamsport, PA  Consolation game

Hawks are 3 point underdogs in this one. Would like to see them win it but think they come up short. Kings 78 New Paltz 72
   


Houghton   @  Geneseo State        2:00 PM

The Knights are favored  by 12 points in this one and should cover that spread. Geneseo wins by a a score of 81-68.

   
      
Salisbury  vs  Oneonta State                 3:00 PM   Staten Island Tournament @ Staten Island, N.Y. Championship Game

The Red Dragons are slight 3 point dogs in this matchup and will have their work cut out for them. The Seagulls have faced some stiff competition and are 6-4 coming into this contest.  I hope I'm wrong on this one but see Salisbury winning by a score of 86-82.




Oswego State  @  Utica                        5:00 PM   Utica College Basketball Classic Championship Game

The Lakers need to play better than they did yesterday if they want to beat the host Pioneers. Oswego is listed as a 2 point favorite a making this a virtual tossup. Both teams suffered a close loss to Hamilton swhich was gtheir only common opponent. I'll take the Lakers to win this one by a 75-71 final score.

   

Clarkson  @Plattsburgh State        2:00 PM

The Cardinals return to action after a 3 week layoff. Clarkson has had the same exact 3 week layoff as both teams last played on December 9th. This game marks the return to action of Plattsburgh's leading scorer from last year, Jon Patron. He will be a welcome addition for the 4-4 Cardinals who have struggled without their go to guy. The oddsmakers have Plattsburgh listed as a 10 point favorite but I think the MOV will be a bigger number. Plattsburgh wins this one 90-74 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 02, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Jan. 2    Two games on tap to start the New Year for SUNYAC teams and then it's back to conference play on the weekend.   


Carnegie Mellon  at   Brockport State        2:00 PM

The Golden Eagles have revenge on their minds as they got thumped by the Tartans last year 89-66. They also lost to them in their previous meeting which took place in the NCAA tournament way back in March of 2009. That one really hurt because it was a double overtime affair that found Brockport on the short end of a 75-70 score. So if revenge is a dish best served cold, Coach Dunne will really savor a win today, with all the time that has gone by since that loss. The oddsmakers rate Brockport as a slim 3 point favorite in this one but I think they win by a few more. Brockport 87 Carnegie Mellon 74. 



Fredonia State  at  D'Youville        6:00 PM

The Blue Devils are slight underdogs in this game but it is certainly one they could put in the win column. Both teams are struggling and each only has 2 wins. Fredonia won last year's contest by 22 points. I think they can win this year's as well but it will be much closer.  Fredonia 68 D'Youville 62 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 05, 2018, 02:19:29 PM
Let's get Ready to Rumble.
It's SUNYAC time, when these teams beat up on each other to get to the SHIP.

5 Games on tap tonight:

Oswego over New Paltz

Sorry to say Cortland over my Red Dragons, just think Cortland has too many weapons.

Magicman's Cardinals over Buffalo State. Mr Patron is BACK, which makes ALL the Difference in the World for Plattsburgh.

Magicman's Bears over Fredonia

Brockport over Geneseo

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2018, 07:04:31 PM
Jan. 5  All ten teams in action tonight as the SUNYAC resumes its conference schedule with 5 games all tipping off at 7:30 PM.   

Oswego State  at  New Paltz        7:30 PM

The Lakers had put together a nice 5 game winning streak but couldn't keep the momentum going against a so-so Utica College team that I feel they should have beaten. Tonight they face another team they had better not take too lightly as the Hawks have made some big strides, this year, toward respectability. New Paltz has won 4 games this year which is 2 shy of all the wins they've had for the past two years combined. The oddsmakers have listed Oswego as a 5 point favorite in this one and the Hawks have shown they can hang with most teams in the YAC by virtue of their win over Geneseo and close calls against Oneonta and Brockport. I see the Lakers winning this one by a 74- 68 final score but I wouldn't be surprised at a New Paltz upset either.     


Cortland State  at  Oneonta State        7:30 PM     Featured Game of the Night

The first of the annual Red Dragon battles and the visiting kind has the edge in this year's matchups. The oddsmakers think this is virtually a tossup as they have made Cortland a favorite by a single point. Coach Spanbauer saw his team's 7 game winning streak, the    longest one in the conference, come to an end over the holidays when they took it on the chin 93-72 against a respectable Washington and Lee team from the Old Dominion Athletic Conference. They trailed 13-0 early on, fought back to get within a single point at 24-23, and then after being down 46-37 at the break, allowed the Generals to open up the 2nd half with a 25-4 run that put the game out of reach at 71-43 with 13:30 left to play. It was a loss that these Red Dragons would like to forget quickly and beating their conference namesakes would help that happen. Meanwhile Oneonta was beating another team from the ODAC over the holidays with a 65-59 win over Roanoke. They lost the next day in the Staten Island tournament championship game to Salisbury by a 65-61 score but these Red Dragons are still playing some decent basketball and are capable of beating any team in the conference. They could just as easily have a 4-0 record in the YAC instead of being 2-2. That being said,  I see Cortland winning this game by a final score of 82-74.     

Potsdam State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

The Bears handled the Blue Devils the first time around by giving them their worst defeat of the season, a 36 point drubbing, 88-52. The oddsmakers must have considered that game an aberration, as they have favored Fredonia by a single point in the rematch. Potsdam at 5-5, has already won as many games this year as they have in any season for the past 5 years. Fredonia hasn't had as much success this year as they did last season when they challenged for a spot in the playoffs. I have to go with the Bears in this game but I think it will be a much closer contest than the previous one. Potsdam 73 Fredonia 67.


Geneseo State  at  Brockport State        7:30 PM

The Knights take on their travel partners for their first meeting of the season. Brockport has won 7 of the past 10 games but the teams have split the season series for the past 3 years. The Golden Eagles are 8-3 and probably should be 9-2 as I'm puzzled by the loss to Western Connecticut, a team that was beaten by both Potsdam and New Paltz. Port should have handled that team easily. Geneseo has been an up and down team all season long and they have yet to win two games in a row. Coming off a win against Houghton leaves the Knights vulnerable tonight. Brockport is favored by a solid 9 points and I think they win this one by an 84-76 final.
   

Plattsburgh State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The Cardinals finally have all their pieces in place as John Patron, last year's leading scorer and rebounder, (18.9 ppg, 9.0 rpg) is back, after sitting out the first semester to make up for the semester he lost when he transferred into Plattsburgh 2 years ago. He suited up for the Clarkson game last Saturday, a game Plattsburgh won by a 77-70 score and got the rust off with 21 minutes of floor time coming in from the bench. He had 11 points and 7 rebounds but figures to be a bit more forwardly placed in tonight's action against Buffalo State. The Cardinals winners of their last 2 games, currently own the longest winning streak in the SUNYAC and are finally over the .500 mark at 5-4.  The Bengals lost their first meeting this year in Plattsburgh by a 95-68 final score and will be looking for some payback. They are always tough in the Queen City and I expect they will make this game much closer than the last one. So do the oddsmakers as they have made Plattsburgh a slim 3 point favorite. While I think it will be closer I don't think it will be that close. Final score Plattsburgh State 92 Buffalo State 78.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2018, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 05, 2018, 07:04:31 PM


The Cardinals finally have all their pieces in place as John Patron, last year's leading scorer and rebounder, (18.9 ppg, 9.0 rpg) is back

Probably no need to say anything else......

Patron. 29 points 14 rebounds! :'(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 02:29:02 AM
Plattsburgh State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The Cardinals finally have all their pieces in place as John Patron, last year's leading scorer and rebounder, (18.9 ppg, 9.0 rpg) is back, after sitting out the first semester to make up for the semester he lost when he transferred into Plattsburgh 2 years ago. He suited up for the Clarkson game last Saturday, a game Plattsburgh won by a 77-70 score and got the rust off with 21 minutes of floor time coming in from the bench. He had 11 points and 7 rebounds but figures to be a bit more forwardly placed in tonight's action against Buffalo State. The Cardinals winners of their last 2 games, currently own the longest winning streak in the SUNYAC and are finally over the .500 mark at 5-4.  The Bengals lost their first meeting this year in Plattsburgh by a 95-68 final score and will be looking for some payback. They are always tough in the Queen City and I expect they will make this game much closer than the last one. So do the oddsmakers as they have made Plattsburgh a slim 3 point favorite. While I think it will be closer I don't think it will be that close. Final score Plattsburgh State 92 Buffalo State 78.     



Final Score   Plattsburgh State 96  Buffalo State 83

My prediction of a 14 point Cardinal win was pretty close to the actual score, however this one was much closer than the final score indicated as the Bengals had the lead 79-76 with 4:41 left to play in the game. Plattsburgh fueled by Eric Mack's 7 straight points then went on a game ending 20-4 run to secure the double digit win. Mack started the final 20 point push with a 3 pointer to tie the score at 79. After a Bengal turnover and a Cardinal missed field goal Mack grabbed the rebound and stuffed it back for the Cardinal's go ahead bucket. At the other end the Bengals missed from the field and Jon Patron grabbed another of his game high 14 rebounds, fired it down the court where it ultimately ended up in Mack's hands once again and he scored to make it 83-79. The Bengals misfired once more, Patron ripped down another rebound and this time Eli Bryant drove to the basket and laid it in. Bryant then stole the ball, fed Chris Middleton who scored to make it 87-79 forcing a Bengal timeout. Another Buff State turnover led to a trip to the line by Plattsburgh's  Nick DeAngelis who made 2 free throws and after the Bengals finally scored, Jon Patron made an old fashioned 3 point play to make it 92-81 with 1:33 left to play and this one was over.

Jon Patron returned to conference play with a vengeance as the All Conference player scored a game high 29 points with a game high 14 rebounds to round out his double-double. He added 2 assists, 2 steals and a block in his 31 minutes off the bench.

Eric Mack scored a season high 23 points and just missed a double-double with 8 rebounds.

Eli Bryant had 16 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals.

Chris Middleton had 8 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 steals.

Nick DeAngelis added 8 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

For the Bengals Mike Henry was the high man with 25 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 3 steals.

Sheldon Adams tied his career-high with 22 points and 7 rebounds.

Sir.Quintin Campbell added 15 points and 4 rebounds.

Malik Turner had 9 points, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Bryan Harrell had 7 points, 4 steals, 2 boards, an assist and a block.

While the shooting totals from the field and long range were fairly close, Plattsburgh was 28 for 35 from the charity stripe while the Bengals made 9 of their 18 chances. The most telling stat was the rebounding battle where the Cardinals had 49 boards to just 20 for the Bengals. The Cardinals also had 19 of those rebounds on the offensive end which resulted in numerous 2nd chance buckets. The Bengals only had 2 offensive boards for the game.

Plattsburgh improves to 6-4 overall and 4-1 in the YAC. They will take on Fredonia on Saturday afternoon at 3:00 PM.

Buffalo State drops to 5-6 on the season and 1-4 in the league. They will face the other North Country team when Potsdam invades the Queen City at 3:00 PM on Saturday. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 03:47:09 AM
Cortland State  at  Oneonta State        7:30 PM     Featured Game of the Night

The first of the annual Red Dragon battles and the visiting kind has the edge in this year's matchups. The oddsmakers think this is virtually a tossup as they have made Cortland a favorite by a single point. Coach Spanbauer saw his team's 7 game winning streak, the    longest one in the conference, come to an end over the holidays when they took it on the chin 93-72 against a respectable Washington and Lee team from the Old Dominion Athletic Conference. They trailed 13-0 early on, fought back to get within a single point at 24-23, and then after being down 46-37 at the break, allowed the Generals to open up the 2nd half with a 25-4 run that put the game out of reach at 71-43 with 13:30 left to play. It was a loss that these Red Dragons would like to forget quickly and beating their conference namesakes would help that happen. Meanwhile Oneonta was beating another team from the ODAC over the holidays with a 65-59 win over Roanoke. They lost the next day in the Staten Island tournament championship game to Salisbury by a 65-61 score but these Red Dragons are still playing some decent basketball and are capable of beating any team in the conference. They could just as easily have a 4-0 record in the YAC instead of being 2-2. That being said,  I see Cortland winning this game by a final score of 82-74.


Final score  Cortland State 87  Oneonta State 70

The Cortland Red Dragons won this one by a bigger margin than my crystal ball predicted but again the final score is misleading as this was a 2 possession game with just over 4 minutes remaining. Cortland was up 69-63 at that time and then proceeded to rip off an 11-2 run to go up 80-65 over the next 2 minutes to put the game on ice. Cortland led this one from start to finish but could never really put Oneonta away until that burst at the end of the game. They were up by a 44-32 halftime score and led by 6 to 12 points through most of the 2nd half. Oneonta closed to within 6 on a couple of occasions but could never get over the hump. That was due primarily to the 3 point shooting that Cortland relied on tonight (and on many nights, in many seasons) as these Red Dragons went 16 for 30 from behind the arc, with 7 different players hitting a shot from deep.   

James Morales was the scoring leader in this game as he tallied 27 points, 5 assists, 3 rebounds and 3 steals. James was 10x13 from the field and 4x6 from long distance.

Justin Cooper had 14 points and was the top rebounder with 9 boards. He added 3 assists and a pair of steals.

Nicky Bonura tossed in 12 points, while Zach Lydon and Carrel Joseph both added 10 points each.

For the Oneonta Red Dragons, Carson Jacobs scored a career high 20 points to lead the team. He added 3 rebounds 2 assists and a block.

Kevin Mackin had 9 points followed by Matthew Boyd and Anthony Kirkwood with 8 points each. Boyd filled up the stat sheet with 4 rebounds, 3 assists 2 steals and 2 blocks.

Ian Schultz had a team high 5 rebounds, with 5 points, 3 assists, 2 steals, and a block.

Cortland improves to 10-2 overall and still in sole possession of first place in the conference with a  perfect 5-0 mark. They will travel to New Paltz for a game on Saturday at 3:00 PM

Oneonta falls to 6-5 overall and 2-3 in the conference. They will face Oswego State at 3:00 PM on Saturday.   



     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 04:47:38 AM
Geneseo State  at  Brockport State        7:30 PM

The Knights take on their travel partners for their first meeting of the season. Brockport has won 7 of the past 10 games but the teams have split the season series for the past 3 years. The Golden Eagles are 8-3 and probably should be 9-2 as I'm puzzled by the loss to Western Connecticut, a team that was beaten by both Potsdam and New Paltz. Port should have handled that team easily. Geneseo has been an up and down team all season long and they have yet to win two games in a row. Coming off a win against Houghton leaves the Knights vulnerable tonight. Brockport is favored by a solid 9 points and I think they win this one by an 84-76 final.

Final score  Brockport State 88  Geneseo State 78

I came very close to hitting this score right on the button and my MOV was only off by 2 points. With 25 seconds left in the game the score was exactly what I predicted but 3 last second fouls resulted in 6 made free throws to spoil my perfect forecast.   

The Knights jumped out to an early lead and managed to stay in front for the first 10 minutes of this game. Brockport finally caught them with 9:53 to play in the first period when Tyler Collins drained a 3 pointer to put the Golden Eagles in front for the first time at 20-19. The teams would stay close until Brockport up 33-31 got 8 straight points to go up 41-31 with a minute left in the half. The score at the break was Port, up 42-33.

The Golden Eagles maintained control thoughout the 2nd half as they had increased their halftime advantage to a total of 16 points  with just 4 minutes gone by in the half. A few seconds later David Clark buried a threeball and the lead was 63-44 as Brockport cruised through most of the period. The lead was never less than 10 points, until, with 1:51 left in the game, the Knights Kevin Crockett was fouled on a 3 point attempt and he made all 3 free throws to close the gap to 79-71. Brockport's Hamed Shamseldin was able to complete a 3 point play to boost the lead back to 11 points but the Knight's Quinn Carey hit a triple to counter that score. The Knights had to foul and Dwayne Daniel made a pair from the line. Tommy Eastman scored inside for Geneseo and with 25 seconds left the Knights got within 6 points with a pair of free throws from Zack Panebianco. That was their last hurrah however, as Daniel hit 4 straight free throws to stretch the lead back to 10 points.

Hamed Shamseldin for Brockport and Tommy Eastman for Geneseo shared scoring honors as they each poured in 23 points.  Shamseldin added 6 rebounds 3 assists and 2 steals.  In addition Eastman grabbed a game high 15 rebounds to complete his double-double. He also had 3 assists and a steal.

Brockport also got a double-double effort from Justin Summer with 16 points and 12 boards. Justin also had 5 blocks and 3 assists.

Dwayne Daniel added 15 points as he was 6x6 from the line.

David Clark was 1 rebound shy of a double-double as he scored 10 points and grabbed 9 boards.

Geneseo outrebounded the Golden Eagles 50 to 38 but Brockport led the Knights in all 3 areas of shooting stats. Port only had 7 turnovers to 14 for Geneseo.

In addition to Eastman's big night the Knights got a solid contribution from Quinn Carey with 22 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Kevin Crockett also had a nice game with 15 points, 6 rebounds and 5 assists.

Jordi Menkhorst had 6 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal in 19 minutes off the bench.

Brockport improves to 9-3 overall and maintains their share of 2nd place in the conference with a 4-1 record. The Golden Eagles are off until next Tuesday Jan. 9th when they host Buffalo State at 7:30 PM.

Geneseo drops to 5-6 overall and 2-3 in the conference. They will also be idle until Tuesday Jan. 9th when they will host Fredonia at 7:30 PM


   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 05:21:07 AM

Oswego State  at  New Paltz        7:30 PM

The Lakers had put together a nice 5 game winning streak but couldn't keep the momentum going against a so-so Utica College team that I feel they should have beaten. Tonight they face another team they had better not take too lightly as the Hawks have made some big strides, this year, toward respectability. New Paltz has won 4 games this year which is 2 shy of all the wins they've had for the past two years combined. The oddsmakers have listed Oswego as a 5 point favorite in this one and the Hawks have shown they can hang with most teams in the YAC by virtue of their win over Geneseo and close calls against Oneonta and Brockport. I see the Lakers winning this one by a 74- 68 final score but I wouldn't be surprised at a New Paltz upset either.

Final score  Oswego State 84  New Paltz State 69

Just missed on the Hawks score while the Lakers put up a few more than I thought they would.

Oswego found themselves in a battle the entire first half as the Hawks fought back from an early deficit to take the lead. The teams  would jockey back and forth in a battle that saw numerous lead changes and several ties until the Lakers finally gained a slight edge. Tied at 37 with 1:48 left in the period, Oswego outscored the Hawks 9-4 to go up by 5 points and then the Hawks got a basket from Corey Garcia with just a few ticks left to make the halftime score Oswego 46 New Paltz 43.

The 2nd period started much like the first one ended with the teams trading blows for the first 8 minutes and several lead changes taking place. The Lakers were in front 54-52 when they used a 10-1 spurt to open up an 11 point double digit lead at 64-53. They continued to build on that lead and it eventually reached 19 points at 80-61 with 4:30 left to play. From there the Lakers coasted to the finish line.

Five Oswego players were in double figures led by Brandon Gartland with 19 points. He also had 6 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Tyler Pierre had a double-double of 13 points and a game high 11 rebounds. He added 2 assists a steal and a block.

Jamir Ferebee had 18 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and a steal.

Ian Schupp had 14 points and Josh Ivey had 10 points and 5 boards.


Dylan Balducci captured scoring honors for the night with 22 points as he made 4 of 6 shots from downtown.

Nick Paquette had 14 points as he also made 4 of 7 shots from behind the arc.

Oswego improves to 7-5 and holds onto their share of 2nd place in the YAC with a 4-1 record. They will travel over to Oneonta  for a Saturday afternoon game that starts at 3:00 PM.

New Paltz will drop to 4-8 overall and 1-4 in the conference. They will host league leaders Cortland on Saturday at 3:00 PM     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 06:26:42 AM
Potsdam State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

The Bears handled the Blue Devils the first time around by giving them their worst defeat of the season, a 36 point drubbing, 88-52. The oddsmakers must have considered that game an aberration, as they have favored Fredonia by a single point in the rematch. Potsdam at 5-5, has already won as many games this year as they have in any season for the past 5 years. Fredonia hasn't had as much success this year as they did last season when they challenged for a spot in the playoffs. I have to go with the Bears in this game but I think it will be a much closer contest than the previous one. Potsdam 73 Fredonia 67.


Final score Potsdam State 82 Fredonia State 74

Both teams scored a few more points than I thought they would but as I suggested, it was a much closer game than the first go around was. I missed the MOV by just 2 points.

The Bears have a winning streak for the 2nd time this season. They haven't seen a winning streak of any kind in their previous 4 seasons. The game started with the teams trading baskets until the Bears, up 10-9, went on a 14-3 run to open up a 24-12 advantage.
Still up 36-22 with 6:14 left in the first period, Potsdam slowly let the Blue Devils close the gap as Fredonia put together a 20-6 run of their own, fueled by 12 points from big man Ian Helps and the teams entered the break tied at 42.

The 2nd half found the teams locked in a battle and the first 6 minutes found several ties and 3 lead changes. The Bears were down 51-50 when they once again opened up some daylight with a 17-4 run to make it 67-55 with 10:15 to play. The lead would never be more than 12 or less than 5 points the rest of the way.

Danny Delsol-Lowry led Potsdam with 20 points, 5 rebounds, 4 steals and 1assist.

Nosa Onabor and Dante Langley both had 15 points. Onabor had 8 rebounds and 2 assists while Langly had 6 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.

The Blue Devils' Ian Helps captured scoring honors with 31 points and also had a game high 13 rebounds.

Isaiah Ice and Brian Baril both added 11 points. Baril had 6 rebounds and Ice had 4.

Potsdam inproves to 6-5 overall and 2-3 in the conference. This is the most wins Potsdam has had since the 2012-13 season when they were 9-16. Later today they will take on Buffalo State in the Queen City at 3:00 PM.

Fredonia drops to 2-9 overall and 0-5 in the YAC. They host Plattsburgh State later today at 3:00 Pm 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 06:41:44 AM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week that ended on December 31st is Dylan Balducci from New Paltz State. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website. Congratulations to Dylan.

Dylan Balducci, MBB, AOW, New Paltz
Jan 02, 2018
New Paltz's Dylan Balducci powered the Hawks to a 1-1 record and earned Athlete of the Week honors.  The senior guard put up 13 points and two assists in a tough loss to Lycoming.  In the Hawks' next game against King's (PA), Balducci was able to guide his team to a win.  The Massapequa Park native scored 24 points (6-9 on three-pointers) and added 6 assists and 3 rebounds in a 100-89 victory. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 07:29:50 AM
Jan. 6  Four games on tap today in the conference all taking place at 3:00 PM   

Potsdam State  at  Buffalo State         3:00 PM

The Bears are on a winning streak but that will come crashing down today as the Bengals won't want to lose back to back games in their own house. The inside play of Mike Henry and Sir. Quintin Campbell will be too much for Potsdam to counter unless the Bengals don't go to Henry often and that would be a mistake. The oddsmakers have made Buffalo State an 8 point favorite in this one. I think the final will be something like...Buffalo State 90 Potsdam 78.


Cortland State  at  New Paltz State        3:00 PM

The Red Dragons are favored by 9 points in this one but I think they win by a bigger margin than that. They won by 16 in the last meeting in Cortland and I think they win by at least that many again today. Cortland 87 New Paltz 70.


Oswego State  at  Oneonta State         3:00 PM   Featured Game of the Day

The Lakers won a low scoring affair at home a month ago where neither team got out of the 40's. I think that was on Thowback Tuesday. Today the Red Dragons look for a little revenge. They won't want to lose another game at home after falling to Cortland yesterday and even the oddsmakers have taken that into consideration and installed Oneonta as a 4 point favorite. The teams have split their season series in 4 of the past 5 years with esch team winning at home in that stretch. I think that trend will continue today.
Oneonta 78 Oswego 73.


Plattsburgh State  at  Fredonia State    3:00 PM

The Cardinals need to avoid a letdown here after taking care of a stubborn Bengals squad yesterday. The Blue Devils can still pull off the upset and last year they defeated Plattsburgh in Plattsburgh which kept them out of the playoffs. Last month they hung with the Cardinals until halfway through the 2nd half before Plattsburgh began to pull away. If you let this team hang around they will jump up and bite you. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh an 11 point favorite but i think they win by a bigger margin than that. The Cardinals didn't have Jon Patron in their 17 point win last month. I think he offsets any home court advantage the Blue Devils hope to get today. I'll take Plattsburgh to win this one by an 89-70 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 03:58:39 PM
Updates:

Plattsburgh State leads Fredonia 44-28 at the break.

Eli Bryant hits a 3 point buzzer beater  as the half ends to put the Carfinals up by 16 points. Jon Patron with 11 early points and 4 rebounds but has to sit out the latter part of the half with 3 fouls.  Bryant leads all scorers with 16 points. Eric Mack also with 10 points and 4 boards at the break.

Ian Helps leads the Blue Devils with 10 points and 8 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 04:00:56 PM
New Paltz hanging with Cortland as they trail 53-46 with 14 minutes to play in the game.

Buffalo State leading Potsdam 39-36 at the half.

Oneonta leads Oswego 31-29 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2018, 04:57:53 PM
Final scores

Plattsburgh State 84 Fredonia State 75

Cortland State  88 New Paltz  State 71

Potsdam State 76   Buffalo State 83

Oswego State 64  Oneonta State 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 06, 2018, 09:56:33 PM
Happy New Year!
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2018, 05:03:05 AM
Cortland State 88 New Paltz 71

I was almost perfect on this one as I had Cortland winning by an 87-70 score. Missed each team by a single point and had the MOV of 17 points right on the money. Probably won't get one any closer than this the rest of the year.

The Red Dragons built 7 or 8 point leads on 4 different occasions in the first half but each time the Hawks would fight back to get within one or two possessions and ultimately were only down 41-38 at the half.

The Hawks continued to stay close through the early stages of the 2nd period and were only down 51-46 with 14 minutes to play, but it was at that point in the game when Cortland finally began to pull away. They opened up a 9 point lead on back to back layups by James Morales and Zack Lydon. Up by 10 at 58-48 Lydon scored 11 of his team's next 13 points on a hoop and harm, a 3 pointer, a jumper and another 3 pointer and suddenly the score was 71-56 with 7 minutes to go.  The Hawks never got closer than 13 points the rest of the way.

Zach Lydon had a big game to capture scoring honors with 33 points, hitting on 15 of 20 shots from the field. He was 2x4 from downtown and also had 5 rebounds, 3 blocks and 2 assists.

Justin Cooper had 13 points, a team high6 rebounds, 3 assists, and a steal.

James Morales had 12 points, 5 assists, 4 steals and 2 rebounds.

Nicky Bonura also had 12 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 steals off the bench.

Brendan Fitzpatrick tied the team high with 6 rebounds and added 5 points with a pair of dimes.



Tristan Wissemann was the high scorer for the Hawks with 23 points. He added 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Nick Paquette had 15 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Dylan Balducci had 14points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists.

Cortland, surprisingly was beaten rather handily on the boards by a 44-31 margin, but only had 6 turnovers to 14 for New Paltz.


The Red Dragons improve to 11-2 overall and 6-0 in the conference and remain at the top of the standings by themselves. They will be back in action on Friday when they host Plattsburgh State at 7:30 PM. The winner of this big showdown could have a leg up for first place in the YAC. Brockport with only 1 loss is still very much in the picture.

New Paltz falls to 4-9 overall and 1-5 in the conference. They will take on travel partner, Oneonta, this Saturday at 3:00 PM in Oneonta.     



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2018, 05:03:38 AM
Oneonta State 68  Oswego State 64

Had Oneonta winning this game by a 78-73 score. Deduct 10 from each team and I'm only 1 point off. I can put a good spin on any prediction ;D  MOV was only a point off though.

Though this pair would have a higher scoring game to make up for the slowdown they played last time they met up. Looks like they slogged through this one as well.

4 ties and 4 lead changes would take place in a back and forth 1st half where neither team could gt separation. The halftime score found the Red Dragons in front 31-29.

3 times in the 2nd half Oneonta would open up a 5 point lead but each time the Lakers would respond and finally, down 39-34, they put together a 10-2 run, ending with 5 straight points by Liam Sanborn, to go in front 44-41, with 12 minutes to play. Oneonta countered with an 11-4 burst of its own to regain the lead at 52-48, with 6:39 to go. The Red Dragons were still ahead 59-54 with 4 minutes to go after a Harrison Deegan layup, but 6 unanswered points by the Lakers forced a Red Dragon time out with 2 minutes to play. Both teams came up empty and then Oneonta regained the lead on another bucket by Deegan. Oswego turned it over with a minute to go, but the Red Dragons missed a 3 pointer only to have Oneonta's Ian Schultz grab the most important rebound of the game, with 40 ticks left on the clock. The Lakers fouled with 34 seconds left and Sean Nolan made both free throws. The Lakers' Jamir Ferebee scored quickly and they fouled once again. This time Oneonta made just 1 of 2 to make it 64-62 with 16 seconds left.  Oneonta fouled Ferebee who made 1 of 2 to make it a 1 point game and the Lakers quickly fouled Nolan who once again made both free throws. Now up by 3 points Oneonta fouled Ferebee with just a couple of seconds left and he made the first and missed the 2nd. Another foul sent Oneonta to the stripe where they made 2 more, to close out the scoring.     

Oneonta got 50 of its 68 points from their bench and the team's 3 high scorers all came off the bench.

Jacob Rodriguez led the way with 16 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals, a block and an assist.

Harrison Deegan had 15 points on 6 of 8 shooting.

Anthony Kirkwood had 20 points and 7 rebounds.

Matthew Boyd had a team high 8 rebounds, 5 points, 2 assists and a steal.


Oswego was led by Jamir Ferebee who had a game high 19 points with 4 rebounds.

Josh Ivey had 12 points and 9 rebounds as he just missed a double-double.

Liam Sanborn dropped in 11 points with 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 1 assist.


Oneonta improves to 7-5 overall and 3-3 in the conference. They are off until Saturday when they host New Paltz at 3:00 PM


Oswego State falls to 7-6 overall and 4-2 in the YAC. They host Potsdam on Friday night at 7:30 PM and Plattsburgh on Saturday at 3:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2018, 05:04:20 AM
Buffalo State 83    Potsdam State 76

Had the Bengals winning this game 90-78 so I wasn't far off on the score. Didn't know their big guy was out which kept the score down a little, I'm sure. Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I have to nurture a new source for info coming out of the Queen City I guess.

This was a close game through the first 37 minutes as the Bears stayed with the Bengals most of the way. 5 lead changes and 3 ties in the early part of the first half and the teams were only separated by a single point 26-25 Bengals, with 6 minutes left in the period. A 13-4 run by Buff State fueled by 6 points from Malik Turner, 4 points from Bryan Harrell and a triple from Zak Ciezki made the score 39-29 with 2 minutes to go. The Bears' Danny Delsol-Lowry then scored 5 points on a 3ball and a layup to sandwich a dunk by Serigne Kane and cut the lead to 3 at the break 39-36.

Once again the Bengals shot out to a double digit lead and managed to stay in front by multiple possessions until the Bears slowly narrowed the gap and finally caught them at 55 each with 11:38 to play. The teams traded baskets and were once again deadlocked at 65 each with 7 minutes remaining. Buffalo State took the lead on a Sheldon Adams 3 pointer and when Potdsdam missed on their end the Bengals got a big offensive rebound from Mike Henry and then a basket from Henry seconds later to make it a 2 possession game. Henry added a free throw to complete the 3 point play. Potsdam never got within a single possession the rest of the way. Poor shooting by Potsdam down the stretch, only going 2 for 12 in the final 7 minutes, was their kryptonite.

Malik Turner was the game's high scorer with 23 points, 6 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.

Mike Henry had a nice double-double of 18 points and a game high 14 rebounds. He had 5 assists and 3 steals as well.

Sheldon Adams had 19 points as he was 4 of 6 from downtown.

Bryan Harrell had 13 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Nosa Onabor had 20 points to lead the Bears. He added 8 rebounds and 2 assists.

Danny Delsol-Lowry had 15 points and came close to a triple double with 10 rebounds and 7 assists.

Serigne Kane had 11 points and 9 rebounds, while Dante Langley dropped in 12 points.

Jayquan Thomas had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals in 27 minutes off the bench.


The Bears outrebounded the Bengals 43 to 38 but had 18 turnovers to 12 for Buff State.

Buffalo State evns their record at 6-6 and is now 2-4 in the conference. They will travel to Brockport on Tuesday to take on the Golden Eagles in the first of two games with them this week. Tip off time is 7:30 PM.


Potdam also has a 6-6 overall record and in 2-1 on the YAC. They host their neighbors 10 mile down Route 11 the SUNY Canton Kangaroos on Tuesday Jan 9th at 7:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2018, 05:13:44 AM
Plattsburgh State 84  Fredonia 75

I had the Cardinals winning this one 89-70 and for most of the game they had a comfortable double digit lead. The final score is closer than the game really was.

Plattsburgh opened up a 15-2 lead and led by as much as 17 in the first half. Eli Bryant (16 pts) from the outside along with Jon Patron (11pts) and Eric Mack (10 pts) on the inside did most of the damage, as the 3 combined for 37 of the Cardinals 44 first half points. Plattsburgh went into the locker room up 44-28 at the break.

The Cardinals led by as many as 19 points for much of the 2nd period and the coaching staff got a number of players into the game with the large lead. The Blue Devils eventually cut the lead to 9 points at 66-57 with 6:39 remaining to play but the Cardinals hung tough and went 9x12 from the line down the stretch to preserve the win.

Eli Bryant in what is getting to be a habit, led all scorers with 27 points and grabbed 4 rebounds.

Jon Patron continued his stellar play, since his return to the team, with 24 points and 8 rebounds putting him in the mix for SUNYAC Player of the Week in his first conference action of the year. I get an assist for 1 of Jon's 24 points since the official box score only had him with 23 points. He went to the foul line with 1:39 left in the game and made 2 free throws. For some reason the play by play person gave the first free throw to Jon and the 2nd free throw was credited to Ian Howard. I had to call the SID at Fredonia and leave him a message to correct the box score. And on Sunday the correction showed up in an adjusted box score. 50 years after my playing days ended I get an assist.  ;D

Eric Mack just missed a double-double with 16 points and 9 rebounds and 4 blocks.

Brandon Johnson had 11 points off the bench.

Chris Middleton only had 2 points but tied for the game high with 10 rebounds.


Fredonia was led by Dante Williams with a double-double of 19 points and 10 rebounds.

Ian Helps, like Eric Mack, just missed a double-double with 14 points and 9 rebounds.

Justin Tapper had 12 points and 7 rebounds.

Kay Jackson had 11 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Plattsburgh won the battle of the boards by a slight margin, 49 -44 and also committed fewer turnovers with only 9 to the Blue Devils 13.

The Cardinals improve to 7-4 on the season and take over sole possession of 2nd place in the conference with a 5-1 record. They have now won 4 games in a row and currently hold the longest winning streak in the conference. They are on the road again this coming weekend as they take on Cortland on Friday night at 7:30 in a contest with major implications on the conference race. That game is followed by a trip to Oswego on Saturday afternoon at 3:00 PM.

Fredonia drops to 2-10 0verall and 0-6 in the YAC. They are back in action Tuesday night  at Geneseo at 7:30 PM in the first of two games with the Knights this week. They will host Brockport and Geneseo this coming weekend.


I managed to go 9-0 this past weekend with a number of predicted scores close to the actual ones. Hope my luck continues.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2018, 12:12:58 PM
Jan. 9   Three games on the slate today involving 5 teams from the conference   

SUNY-Canton  at  Potsdam State        7:00 PM

The Kangaroos are only 3-7 but have played 7 teams that are .500 or better and most recently they hung with the Lakers only losing 77-70. Potsdam should win this game and the oddsmakers have favored them by 8 points. I'll take the Bears by an 83-73 final score.


Fredonia State  at  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

The Blue Devils are still searching for that first conference win. The Blue Knights are looking to get back in the thick of the playoff race. They are on a win-loss-win-loss streak  The oddsmakers have the Knights favored by 12 points. These teams have split their season series the last two years, but those 2 wins are the only ones Fredonia has managed in the last 10 games against Geneseo.   One of these days Fredonia will pull off the upset, and get their first conference win of the year... however, it will not be this day. Geneseo is due for a win and they get it 80-70.

Buffalo State  at  Brockport State        7:30 PM

The first of 2 meetings this week between these two clubs. Brockport has never been the Bengals favorite team to play and there should be a rule that you don't have to play them twice in one week.  Port is looking to regain a share of 2nd place in the conference while the Bengals need to get back in playoff contention. I have a feeling by 5:00 PM on Saturday afternoon the Bengals will have seen far to much of the Golden Eagles. The bad news....the Bengals are 2-13 in the last 15 games against Brockport, the good news...those 2 wins have come in the last three years, each time in Brockport. The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles an 11 point favorite in this one. The Bengals will need their big man Sir. Quintin Campbell if they hope to spring an upset. I don't think they win this one even if they have him.  Brockport 93 Buffalo State 80. 
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 09, 2018, 12:20:10 PM
Jon Patron from Plattsburgh State has been selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Congratulations to Jon.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

"Jonathan Patron, MBB, AOW, Plattsburgh
Jan 08, 2018
Plattsburgh's Jonathan Patron has been named Athlete of the Week for men's basketball.  The junior was a key part of the Cardinals' 2-0 week, as he averaged 26 points and 11 rebounds.  In a matchup with Buffalo St., Patron scored 29 points and brought down 14 rebounds in 31 minutes of play to lead Plattsburgh to a 96-83 win over the Bengals.  In a game against Fredonia, the Huntington native had 23 points and 8 rebounds as the Cardinals outlasted the Blue Devils, 84-75."


Jon actually had 24 points in that Fredonia game as the weekend was a nice return to conference play for the Cardinals' leading scorer and rebounder from last season. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 11, 2018, 02:39:23 AM
Something different  :)

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 11, 2018, 07:34:26 AM
That requires us to know all the mascots.

Cool design, though - I like it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2018, 08:29:56 AM
Tuesday Night Results.

Potsdam State 73 SUNY-Canton 70

This game was closer than I thought it would be but the Bears pulled it out after being down 59-58 with about 6 minutes left to play. Dante Langly had back to back layups to put the Bears ahead for good as they held off the Kangaroos.

Langley led Potsdam with 19 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists. Serigne Kane had a double-double of 15 points and 10 boards.  Danny Delsol-Lowry had 11 points and 7 rebounds.

The Bears are now 7-6 overall and have exceeded the number of wins they had for the past 3 years combined (3..1..and 2). They are back in action on Friday at Oswego at 7:30 PM.



Geneseo State 87  Fredonia State 53

The Knights put a whipping on the Blue Devils by a bigger margin than I expected. Fredonia was in this game for about half of the first period and then the Knights opened up a double digit lead that only got larger as the game wore on.

Quinn Carey captured scoring honors with 23 points.

Tommy Eastman had a double-double of 14 points and 11 rebounds.

Zack Panebianco added 13 points and 5 assists.


Ian Helps had 17 points to lead the Blue Devils and Kay Jackson had 10.


Geneseo  improves to 6-6 overall and is now tied with Oneonta for 5th place in the YAC with a 3-3 record. The Knights presently hold the tiebreaker over Oneonta, by virtue of their win over the Red Dragons back on December 1st.  Geneseo will host Buffalo State on Friday night Jan. 12th at 7:30 PM and then face Fredonia on the road the next day at 3:00 PM.


Fredonia is now 2-11 overall and 0-7 in theYAC.  They will try and get that initial win on Friday night at Brockport at 7:30 PM.



Brockport State 90  Buffalo State 75

I had the Golden Eagles winning this one 93-80, so I wasn't too far off and the MOV was just a two pointer away. The Bengals did have their big man, Sir. Quinton Campbell, in the lineup as he returned from a one game absence, however their leading scorer and rebounder, Mike Henry, was out and that's one player the Bengals can't afford to lose, especially against a team as good as Brockport.

The Bengals played a strong first half even without their missing star and with 4 minutes to play in the period were tied with Port at 34-34. The Golden Eagles put together a closing 13-3 run that gave them a halftime lead of 47-37. 

Needing a quick start to get back in contention, the Bengals found themselves on the short end of another Brockport run to open the period, as the Golden Eagles ripped off a 16-2 spurt in the first 5 minutes. Now the deficit was 24 points with 15:08 left in the game. The lead grew to a game high 27 points with 11 minutes to go and was still at that margin, 78-51, with 7:51 remaining. The Bengals cut into the big lead with a few 3 pointers near the end of the game but the outcome was never in doubt after the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half.

Justin Summers led the scoring parade for the Eagles with 16 points and 7 rebounds.

Mike O'Hara came off he bench to score 15 points and grab 7 boards in just 14 minutes of court time.

Jon Carnegie had 10 points with 7 boards, while Hamed Shamseldin also had 10 points and 6 rebounds.

12 different players hit the scoreboard for Brockport as Coach Dunne got every player into the game.

The win was Coach Dunne's 181st victory as Brockport's coach and it made him the winningest coach in the history of the program. Now in his 11th season as the head coach of the Golden Eagles his teams have averaged over 17 wins per season and have never missed the SUNYAC tournament. Congratulations to Coach Dunne.

Buffalo State was led by Sheldon Adams who scored a game high 20 points.

Bryan Harrell had 15 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.

Sir. Quintin Campbell had a double-double of 11 points and a game high 10 boards.


Brockport ups their record to 10-3 and moves back into a tie with Plattsburgh for 2nd place in the conference with a 5-1 record. They currently hold the tiebreaker over the Cardinals by virtue of their 97-95 win on December 8th. The team is back in action on Friday as they host Fredonia at 7:30 before traveling over to the Queen City to meet the Bengals in a rematch on Saturday afternoon at 3:00 PM.

Buff State drops to 6-7 overall and is 2-5 in the YAC. They travel to Geneseo on Friday night for a 7:30 game before they host Brockport on Saturday. 
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 11, 2018, 01:45:25 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 11, 2018, 07:34:26 AM
That requires us to know all the mascots.

Cool design, though - I like it.

I can try doing something about that next time.  Glad you like it!  I'm just fooling around with different things.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on January 12, 2018, 07:19:12 AM
Huge game tonight with magicman's Plattsburgh St Cardinals against my Cortland Red Dragons. I only say "my" because I had them picked in the Top 25 pool. Curious to read magicman's preview on this one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 12, 2018, 11:55:22 AM
4 games on tap tonight.

Obviously the Game of the night is Magicman's Cardinals visiting the Red Dragons of Cortland.
With Jon Patron back in the fold for Plattsburgh, and playing better than ever, I have the Cardinals squeezing out a tough road win.
Brockport all over Fredonia
Oswego winning a close one against Magicman's Bears.
And Buffalo State winning only if Mike Henry is playing against Geneseo.


Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2018, 06:03:47 PM
Nice article on New Paltz sharpshooter Nick Paquette on D3hoops front page today. Quite a comeback for this young man. Hope he continues to improve and puts one in the win column against this disease. Go Nick!   I'd like to meet him when he comes to Plattsburgh on February 17th.    Here's the link to the story:

http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2017-18/new-paltz-paquette
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2018, 07:34:18 PM
Jan. 12   Four games on tap tonight in the SUNYAC 3 of them taking place tonight at 7:30 and one of them already finished this afternoon.

That's what happens when I take a few hours off from D3 basketball to live a normal life. Had to get a plow truck since mine went to pickup heaven last week and the Golden Eagles and Fredonia play an unusual Friday afternoon game. Pretty sure the other day the schedule said it was a night game, but I wouldn't swear by it.    

Fredonia State  69  at  Brockport    State 71    Final score.

I would have been all over the the Golden Eagles in this one since I haven't pick Fredonia to win a conference game all year, but I would have picked Port to win by about 25 not 2. The oddsmakers had them winning by 20.
      
Potsdam State at  Oswego State         7:30 PM

I would like to pick my alma mater to win this one but I think they are up against it in Oswego. They haven't beaten Oswego in 4 years and are only 1-16 in the last 17 games against the Lakers. Hardly the type of stat that inspires confidence. The oddsmakers have the Lakers listed as 12 point favorites tonight but I think the Bears can keep it closer. They could even pull off the upset but I'll take Oswego to win by a 78-72 final score.   


Buffalo State  at  Geneseo        7:30 PM

Hard to pick this game without knowing the status of Bengals' star Mike Henry. The oddsmakers have Geneseo winning by 4 points and they think Henry will be in the lineup. I think the Knights win on their home court by a 86-83 final score.   

Plattsburgh State  at Cortland State          7:30 PM   The Featured Game of the Week

The top 2 teams go at in Cortland with a possible 3 way tie for the top spot (since Brockport has already won today). The oddsmakers have made Cortland an 8 point favorite in this one. Both these teams can shoot the 3 pointer but Cortland is better at it than the Cardinals. Plattsburgh's chances will rely on its athleticism and the ability to switch to the shooter that the Cortland offense will try and set up for the long range bombs. The addition of Jon Patron to Plattsburgh's lineup the past 3 games has been enormous and I'm thinking that he could be a difference maker tonight. It will be a tough task to beat Cortland at home but I'm hoping Plattsburgh remembers the two whippings they got last year and exact a bit of revenge tonight.  Plattsburgh wins this one 86-83.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2018, 08:04:53 PM
Fredonia State  69  at  Brockport    State 71


Fredonia played like the Demons they are in the first half to lead Brockport by 24 points at the break 44-20. The Blue Devils forgot there are two halves though and they let Brockport do to them, what they did to Port, in the first half. The Golden Eagles got a big 2nd half from their Dynamic Duo of Hamed Shamseldin (15 points), and Justin Summers (11 points) to eke out the 2 point win. Shamseldin finished with 23 points to capture scoring honors. He added 5 assists, 5 rebounds and 2 blocks. Summers finished with a double-double o 15 points and 11 rebounds. He also had 2 steals and 3 blocks to increase his conference leading block total to 40. Tyler Collins added 10 points.

Fredonia was led by Ian Helps with a double-double of 14 points and a game high 12 rebounds. Jon McDonald filled up the stat sheet with 13 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Kay Jackson had 12points, 3 rebounds and a pair of thefts.
      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2018, 08:20:40 PM
Halftime score in Cortland

Plattsburgh State 37  Cortland State 37

No live stats, no play by play announcer. Really disappointed in the online coverage for the big game.  Can't tell who the leading scorers are but I think it's Eli Bryant and Jon Patron for Plattsburgh but no idea what their totals are. Don't have a clue for the Red Dragons. Can't tell the foul situation either.


Oswego State trails Potsdam State 42-37 at the break.

Dante Langly with 17 points and Jayquan Thomas with 10 for the Bears.

Ian Schupp with 11 and Josh Ivy 10 for the Lakers.




Geneseo leads Buffalo State 41-25 at the break.

Quinn Carey with 14 and Zack Panebianco with 11 for the Knights.

Sir. Quinton Campbell with 11 to lead the Bengals. Mike Henry is playing but I don't know how much as the live stats don't give that info. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 12, 2018, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 12, 2018, 06:03:47 PM
Nice article on New Paltz sharpshooter Nick Paquette on D3hoops front page today. Quite a comeback for this young man. Hope he continues to improve and puts one in the win column against this disease. Go Nick!   I'd like to meet him when he comes to Plattsburgh on February 17th.    Here's the link to the story:

http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2017-18/new-paltz-paquette

Great story!  Thank you for sharing!  Really rooting for him.

And congrats on a big win tonight, too!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
Friday's final scores:

Fredonia State  69    Brockport State    71
   

Potsdam State  75    Oswego State   72

   
Plattsburgh State  80    Cortland State  78

   
Buffalo State  64    Geneseo State  81
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2018, 02:57:40 PM
Jan. 13   All 10 teams in action to day with 4 games at 3:00 PM and the nightcap at 7:00 PM in Fredonia.


Only time for some quick picks today with the snowstorm that hit the area taking up too much of my day.

New Paltz State  at  Oneonta State        3:00 PM

The Red Dragons are favored in this 2nd meeting of travel partners by an 11 point margin. The Hawks are coming off 2 conference losses and will look to get a 2nd win in the YAC.  THe Red Dragons will be too much to handle though as Oneonta wins this one by an 80-68 final score.

Potsdam State  at  Cortland State        3:00 PM

The Bears look to pull off their 2nd upset in a row. I don't think they have been 3 games over .500 in 13 or more years. Cortland after a tough loss yesterday won't be in any mood to lose at home on back to back day. The Bears are 19 point underdogs in this one and I think they'll have to wait a while longer to get to 3 games over .500.  Cortland wins this one 92-70.


Brockport State  at  Buffalo State        3:00 PM

The Bengals get their 2nd dose of Golden Eagleitis and it won't be any milder than the last case. Brockport is only favored by 7 points  but I think they win it by a little more. Port 88 Buffalo State 77.

 
Geneseo State  at   Fredonia State        7:00 PM

Geneseo already suffered an upset at the hands of New Paltz earlier in the season so they won't want to take the Blue Devils lightly despite the fact they are still winless in the YAC. Yesterday Fredonia showed they can play with anybody in the conference before falling to Brockport by 2 points. Today is another day however and the oddsmakers think that the Knights will win this one by 8 points. I think they in by a few more. Geneseo 83 Fredonia 68. 

Plattsburgh State  at  Oswego State        3:00 PM

Always a battle when these two teams tangle. Oswego has gotten the better of the Cardinals the last few years so, like last night against the Cortland red Dragons revenge will be on the minds of the players from Plattsburgh. 2 years ago a loss to Oswego in the semifinals of the YAC kept the Cardinals from another possible SUNYAC Championship and 3 years ago the Lakers beat the Cardinals in the finals of the YAC tournament that not only cost them the SUNYAC title but kept them out of the NCAA tournament when the committee didn't give the Cards an at large bid.

The Lakers, on the other hand, don't want to have a lost weekend and after getting upset by the Potsdam Bears last night, are looking at an 0-2 week and a possible drop all the way down to 7th place(if Potsdam were to upset Cortland).The Lakers have also lost 3 of their last 4 games and will be looking to turn that around as well.  Oswego, in somewhat of an aberration, only has 9 home games scheduled out of 25, during the regular season....the 9 YAC round robin games. The games they played this weekend are only the 2nd and 3rd time they have been home all year. All 7 of their non-conference games were played on the road or on a neutral court. 
The Lakers and Cards have split their most recent 10 meetings and last year they both won on the other team's home court. The Cardinals are on a 5 game winning streak, and are looking to stay hot with only 1 more weekend left on the road after this one. They end the season with their last five conference games at home, payback this year for having to play their final five games on the road last year.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 2 point favorite in this game but I don't see it that way. I think the Cardinals will win this game and will do so by a final score of 83-76.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2018, 03:36:17 PM
Plattsburgh State leads Oswego State 45-30 at the half.

Jon Patron with 13 points and 6 rebounds to lead the Cardinals.

Eli Bryant and Eric Mack with 8 points each. Mack with 2 great dunks.

Chris Middleton had 7.

For Oswego  Tim Marshall had 7 points and Josh Ivey had 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2018, 03:53:03 PM
Cortland leads Potsdam State 40-31 at the break. No live stats available to know who's doing the damage. With the school still not in session I'm assuming that's why they don't have that option.

All the team schedules on the D3hoops websites show the Brockport-Buff State game and the New Paltz-Oneonta game as starting at 3:00 PM. However the game in Buffalo is not until 7:30 PM and the game in Oneonta starts at 5:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2018, 04:57:41 PM
Final scores:

Plattsburgh State  89  Oswego State  76


Cortland State 75  Potsdam State 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 13, 2018, 06:29:24 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats Oswego State 89-75.

The final score was fairly close to my prediction of 83-76. The Lakers only missed my total for them by a point and the Cardinals got a few easy baskets toward the end of the game to make their score a few more than my crystal ball foretold.

The teams went through 4 ties and 7 lead changes in the first ten minutes of play until Plattsburgh finally opened up some daylight and went in front by double digits. Down 17-16, the Cards got a steal and a pass by Nick DeAngelis to Eric Mack for a nice dunk. Then after Oswego missed on their end, DeAngelis buried a threeball and the Lakers called a timeout. Oswego scored to make it 21-19 but the Cardinals would get another score from Mack, and a pair of three pointers from Eli Bryant, to make it 29-19 with 7:13 left in the period. Plattsburgh continued to build on that lead after the Lakers were only down, 32-26, by getting another dunk followed by a layup from Mack and then getting a pair of inside baskets from Jon Patron. A pair of free throws from Isaiah Hill and a three pointer from Chris Middleton had the cards in front 45-28 with 41 seconds remaining. Josh Ivey scored for Oswego to cut the lead to 15, 45-30 at the half.

A 7-2 start to open the 2nd period had the Cardinals in front by 20 after 2:16 had gone by and another DeAngelis 3 pointer gave Plattsburgh its largest lead of the game at 60-38 with 14:33 to play. Oswego managed to cut the deficit  several times to 12 points and then with just under 5 minutes to go got it back to single digits on a pair of layups by Liam Sanborn, that sandwiched a pair of free throws by the Lakers Ian Schupp. That made it 77-68 but it was their last hurrah as Eli Bryant hit a jumper, then stole the ball and scored on a drive to the hoop. Josh Ivey scored for Oswego, but Mack had another dunk on a feed from Patron and then Patron scored after Oswego missed and the lead was back to 15 at 85-70. With two minutes left it was time to light the cigar.

Jon Patron led all scorers and rebounders once again with a double-double of 27 points and 12 rebounds. He added 3 assists and a steal and shot 12x19 from the field. He had a double-double last night against Cortland in that Plattsburgh win and I think he's in prime position to win a 2nd SUNYAC Player of the Week award unless there are some pretty big games coming in tonight's contests by guys that had pretty good games last night. Plus Patron's efforts came against two of the top contenders for playoff spots including an unbeaten in the conference (at the time) Cortland.  And yes I'm shamelessly plugging my guy because I can (and because he scored 40 fantasy points tonight for me in my D3hoops fantasy league.)

Eli Bryant continues to play outstanding ball as he comes off the bench and delivers key baskets time after time. Last night he nails the winning basket against Cortland and tonight has a pair of 3 pointers that turned a 23-19 lead into a 29-19 point lead and the Lakers never recovered from that. A big turning point in the game in my opinion. Eli ended up with 18 points, 3 assists and 4 steals as he continues to come off the bench and average 19 points per game He was 7x11 tonight from the field and 2x4 from deep.

Eric Mack continues to thrill the Cardinal fans with his amazing ability to defy gravity. He is only 6'3" and is the 2nd leading shot blocker in the YAC. He scored 14 points in today's game going 6x8 from the field and 4 of those field goals were picture perfect dunks.

Chris Middleton and Nick DeAngelis both had 9 points. Middleton had 5 rebounds and DeAngelis had 4 assists.

The Cardinals led in almost every category, outshooting the Lakers from the field and from deep. Plattsburgh had 39 rebounds and 10 turnovers to 33 rebounds and 13 TO's for Oswego.

Oswego got 21 points from Liam Sanborn who added 6 rebounds, 6 assists, and 2 steals He was 8x13 from the field and 2x3 from downtown.

Tyler Pierre had 14 points and a team high 7 rebounds while shooting 7x9 from the field.

Josh Ivey had 8 points and also tied for the team lead with 7 boards.  Tom Marshall had 9 points and 3 boards.

Plattsburgh has now won 6 in a row and is 9-4 overall. They are 7-1 in the conference and tied for first place with Cortland but they do hold the tiebreaker over them by virtue of their win in Cortand last night. They are off until next weekend when they will host Geneseo on Friday night at 7:30 PM followed by Brockport on Saturday afternoon at 3:00 PM.

Oswego State drops to 7-8 overall and 4-4 in the YAC. They are back in action on Tuesday Jan 16th when they host New Paltz at 7:30 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 13, 2018, 09:25:06 PM
Update...will probably try to post standings like I did last year sometime over the next few weeks.

By the way...magicman, I see your Cardinals are getting all of their road games out of the way now!

(https://i.imgur.com/2jQaEAU.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2018, 07:14:47 AM
All of Saturday's final scores.

Brockport State  82    Buffalo State 75


Geneseo State 68  Fredonia State 52


Oneonta State 82   New Paltz State 72


Plattsburgh State  89  Oswego State  76


Cortland State 75  Potsdam State 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2018, 12:26:20 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 13, 2018, 09:25:06 PM
Update...will probably try to post standings like I did last year sometime over the next few weeks.

By the way...magicman, I see your Cardinals are getting all of their road games out of the way now!

(https://i.imgur.com/2jQaEAU.png)

Hey AllStar,

Yes we are getting the away games over soon. We're reaping the benefits of last year's brutal schedule when we had to play our last 5 conference games on the road. This year the last 5 conference games are at home. With 5 of our 7 conference wins coming away from Plattsburgh  and only 3 road games left against the current 5th, 7th and 9th place teams we're in good shape coming into the 2nd half of our round robin. Should be an exciting finish in the YAC once again, as it usually is. I'm hopeful we can keep our losses to no more than a couple of games so we can still be in good shape for an at large bid should the conference crown prove elusive. Thanks for the graphs and standings. Your guys are still looking good as they remain unbeaten in league play. Looks like it will come down to the Owls or Eastern Connecticut. I like to see a rematch of our teams now that we have Jon Patron back. ;)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2018, 02:04:07 PM
Mama said that there would days like this, but she never warned me about weeks like this.  My BENGALS are in the midst of a struggle that I have seen since 2006. Youth is no excuse at 1300 Elmwood .  Not sure what it is but repeated stretches of zero/2 points while opponent gets 12/14 in a the same stretch , is killing us.

We have the talent but not sure of the heart across the board !  And I hate admitting that because over the past 13 years, "heart" has never been an issue.  Next stop is New Paltz where Buff Stare is probably 7-1 over the last 8 years. And that's no disrespect to the Hawks, however in a league where you have to finish at .500 to qualify for the playoffs, at 2-7 our backs are against the wall!  Can my BENGALS turn it around ( go 7-2 over the 2nd half is season?)? I believe that they can.

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
Jan. 16  Three games on the schedule today involving 5 teams from the YAC   

Oneonta State  at   Cortland State    6:00 PM

Getting to this one a little late since I've had nothing but car trouble today...again but I'll take the Cortland fire breathers to beat the Oneonta variety. Cortland favored by 7 points but I think they win by a few more. They won by 17 in Oneonta they win by 13 at home. Cortland 85 Oneonta 72.


Geneseo State  at   Hamilton        7:30 PM

The Knights travel to Clinton N.Y. take on the Continentals and are 14 point underdogs against the D3hoops 14th ranked team in the country. I think the ranking is a bit overated but Hamilton is a pretty good team and should get the better of the Knights in this one. I think Geneseo will cover that spread though. Hamilton 87 Geneseo 76. 

   
New Paltz State  at Oswego State    7:30 PM

The Lakers need a win in the worst way to stay ahead of Potsdam for the 6th and final playoff spot. The oddsmakers think they will get it as they are 8 point favorites in Max Ziel Gym. They have fallen from 4-1 to 4-4 and from a tie for 2nd into 6th place in the YAC. The Hawks will give them a battle even though they lost the last matchup by 15.  Oswego 79 New Paltz 69.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Final score.

Cortland State 80 Oneonta State 64.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2018, 10:49:46 PM
Final score.

Hamilton 74 Geneseo State 70

Geneseo had a 70-61 lead in this one with 4 minutes to go and couldn't hang on as they went scoreless for the rest of the game. They should have gotten a win here but they missed their last 5 shots had 3 turnovers and committed 3 fouls to allow Hamilton to escape with the W.

Geneseo outshot the Continentals in every category, outrebounded them 52-36 including 13 on the offensive end to only 8 for Hamilton. They had more assists and less fouls but had 24 turnovers to only 11 for Hamilton. The Continentals got 28 points off those turnovers to just 8 points for the Knights off the Hamilton giveaways. That was the most telling stat of the game and the one that proved to be a game changer especially the 3 TO's at the end of the game. They resulted in 4 Hamilton points and turned it into a 2 possession game with just a few seconds left to play.

The Knights got 31 points from Quinn Carey who made 5 three pointers and was 10x19 from the field. He also added 7 rebounds.

Kevin Crockett had 12 points and 7 rebounds as well.

Tommy Eastman added 8 points and 8 rebounds while  Alex Merhige had a game high 11 rebounds.

Kena Gilmour, Hamilton's stud,  had 20 points, 8 rebounds and 6 steals. Tim Doyle had 16 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds and 3 steals.

The Knights fall to 8-7 overall (5-3 YAC) and will be back in action this weekend when they take on my Cardinals in Plattsburgh on Friday at 7:30 PM.


Hamilton, coached by former Laker coach Adam Stockwell is having a nice season and is in contention in the always tough NESCAC Conference. It's taken Coach Stockwell a little time to make any headway in that conference but he was hurt when his top prospect, Matt Hart, left after 2 years, to play for Division I George Washington University. His more recent recruits of the last 2 years have given him a leg up in the standings. The Continentals are currently 15-0 and 3-0 in the conference and are ranked higher in the D3hoops Top 25 poll than they have ever been with their #14 ranking on Monday night. As I stated in my earlier prediction of this game, I think they are a bit overrated and have achieved their lofty status as a result of a semi-soft schedule. 9 of their wins have come against teams that don't have a winning record and 2 other wins have come against teams from one of the weakest conferences in Division III. Still they have beaten everyone they've played and you can't take that away from them. I just don't think they will make a very deep run in the NCAA tournament and are perhaps a year away from a chance to do that. Coach Stockwell is a class act and I always root for his teams and hope they do well. Hope he proves me wrong and they make a lengthy appearance in the NCAA tournament, unless he has to face a team from the YAC early on. :D       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
Final score.

Oswego State 73  New Paltz State 57

The Lakers jumped out to a quick lead and never looked back as the Hawks struggled early to put points on the board. Oswego was up 10-0 after 5 minutes and 18-2 after 8 minutes had gone by. The Lakers cruised to a 41-20 halftime lead.

The lead quickly grew to 25 points and Oswego was never threatened the entire 2nd half. New Paltz did cut the margin to 14 points late in the period but the Lakers had this one well in hand.

The Lakers were led by Liam Sanborn who captured scoring honors with 18 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists.

Tyler Pierre had a double-double of 15 points and 14 rebounds.  Josh Ivey also had a double-double of 13 points and 13 rebounds.

Ian Schupp added 10 points.


The Hawks got 13 points from Dylan Balducci and 10 points and 6 boards from Paddy Parr. Nick Paquette had team rebounding honors with 9 boards. Brandon Guest had 9 points and 6 rebounds.

Oswego improves to  8-8 overall and 5-4 in the conference. The win moves them into 5th place in the standings and they will be back in action on Saturday as they host travel partner Cortland at 3:00 PM.

New Paltz is now 4-11 overall and 1-7 in the YAC. They host Buffalo State Friday at 7:30 PM

 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2018, 06:29:51 AM
Plattsburgh State 80 Cortland State 78

Late recap of Friday night's game that was my SUNYAC Game of the Week and one that lived up to its promise.

I had the Cardinals winning this one by an 86-83 final score so I wasn't that far off from the actual final and the MOV was only a point away.

The two teams had 4 ties and several lead changes through the first 6 minutes of action until, tied at 14, the Cardinals' Chris Middleton nailed a three pointer to begin a 15-5 run that put Plattsburgh in front 29-19 with 8:16 left in the half. Eli Bryant hit another triple a minute later to extend the lead to 6 points and after Cortland's James Morales narrowed the gap the Cards' Eric Mack sandwiched a Jon Patron layup with a pair of baskets to extend the lead to double digits at 27-17. Cortland would come back though and kept scoring inside. The Cardinals did a good job of defending the 3 point arc but that left them vulnerable to penetration as Cortland managed to score 10 of their next 14 points on layups and pull within a single possession at 37-34 after Justin Cooper made just the 2nd 3 pointer of the half for the Red Dragons with 2:52 remaining in the period. Plattsburgh came up empty on their next 2 possessions and with 1:29 left Cooper hit another threeball to tie the game at 37 and that's the way it remained as the teams headed to the locker rooms for the break.

The 2nd half was a repeat of the opening period only with more lead changes and ties. It was a barnburner that you just knew would come down to the final few possessions, and it didn't disappoint. The teams traded baskets and leads with Cortland gaining their largest lead on a pair of Justin Cooper free throws at 49-46 with 15:24 to play. Still down by 3 at 51-48, Plattsburgh strung together another 10-2 burst fueled by 5 points from Eli Bryant to go in front 58-53 with 12 minutes left. The Cardinals would maintain their advantage and increased it to a 7 point lead, the largest of the half at 64-57, when Ian Howard sank two free throws with 8:27 remaining. Then it was the Red Dragons' turn to go on a 11-2 run led by back to back buckets from Zach Lydon, a 3 pointer from Morales and 4 points from Cooper to regain the upper hand at 68-66 with 5:56 left to play.    The teams were tied at 70 when Patron hit a big 3 pointer for the Cardinals and Cooper responded with another layup onside for Cortland. Plattsburgh came up empty and Morales was fouled on the other end, as he made both free throws to put the Red Dragons back in front 74-73, with 2:34 on the clock. Once more the Cards went to the well and Patron was there to score inside and put them back in front. Morales missed from downtown but Cooper collared the rebound and was fouled, making both free throws to put the home team back on top. But not for long as a picture perfect alley oop play from Eli Bryant to Eric Mack just 12 seconds later resulted in a throwdown by Mack and a Cardinal lead of 77-76 with 1:33 to play. The Cards called timeout and on Cortlands' next possession James Morales got a friendly bounce as his jumper went in and out, then straight up and dropped through for a 2 pointer to make it 78-77, with 1:14 to go. That set the stage for the dramatics of Eli Bryant, who for the umpteenth time, calmly dribbled the shot clock down about 4 feet behind the 3 point line and then with the clock winding down nailed the 3 pointer that put Plattsburgh on top 80-78. It was nothing but net. Cortland called a time out and elected to go inside to Zach Lydon for the game tying basket hoping for the hoop and harm. Instead Ian Howard got a clean block and Eric Mack got the loose ball. Cortland elected not to foul Bryant who dribbled the clock all the way down once again and just missed another three. The logic was he would probably make both free throws and make it a 2 possession game so they elected to take their chances on a shot with just a few seconds remaining after a hoped for Plattsburgh miss. They got the Plattsburgh miss but the last shot attempt ended up being a heave from over half court and did manage to hit the rim. I think I would have fouled early in the possession and taken my chances there. Bryant may have missed 1 of the 2 free throws and then the game could have been tied with a 3 pointer from Cortland. They are, after all, the best three point shooting team in the YAC. At the very least, pressure Bryant and hope for a late turnover but I wouldn't have let him just dribble the clock down uncontested.

Plattsburgh had 5 players record double figures in the game led by the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week Jon Patron. He scored 20 points and grabbed 10 rebounds to post his 2nd double-double in 3 conference games.

Eli Bryant came off the bench to score 19 points, with 8 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Since Eli assumed his role of coming off the bench he has scored 18 or more points in 7 of 9 games and is now averaging 19.0 ppg.

Nick DeAngelis had14 points and hit 4 of 7 from long distance. He added 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

Chris Middleton had 11 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists.

Eric Mack had 10 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, and 2 assists.


Cortland's Justin Cooper  led all scorers with 26 points. 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

James Morales had 25 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist. Zach Lydon added 11 points.

These two teams will have  a rematch in Plattsburgh on Saturday February 3rd at 3:00 PM. It could very well be with hosting rights for the SUNYAC Tournament on the line....although I'm sure Brockport will have a thing or two to say about that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2018, 07:09:29 AM
My guess for the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the 2nd straight week was Jon Patron for his back to back double-doubles against Cortland and Oswego as the Cardinals went 2-0 over the weekend to extend their winning streak to 6 games. Plattsburgh has not lost since Patron has returned to the lineup. They are now tied with Brockport and Cortland for the top spot in the Conference at 7-1.

Here's the writeup from the SUNYAC website:

 
Jonathan Patron, MBB, AOW, Plattsburgh
Jan 15, 2018
Plattsburgh's Jonathan Patron has been selected as Athlete of the Week for the second week in a row.  The junior from Huntington led the Cardinals to conference wins over Cortland and Oswego and helped them move into a three-way tie (7-1) for the SUNYAC lead. In an 80-78 shootout win over the Red Dragons, Patron had a double-double (20 pts, 10 reb).  Against the Lakers, Patron registered 27 points and 12 rebounds for another double-double in an 89-75 victory.  The Cardinals are now riding a six-game win streak and will continue to fight for first place in conference standing.


If there could be a Co-Player of the Week, that award would surely go to Eli Bryant from Plattsburgh State. The senior guard came off the bench in both games this weekend to score 19 points against Cortland and 18 points against Oswego. He was 14x27 from the field and 5x12 from downtown. His threeball as time was winding down with less than a minute to go against Cortland proved to be the gamewinner and the next day against Oswego his 2 three pointers a minute apart fueled a Cardinal run that opened up a double digit lead against the Lakers from which they never recovered. He averages less minutes per game than any player among the top 8 scorers in the conference with only 26.9 mpg, yet is in 3rd place in the YAC with 19.0 points per game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2018, 03:46:12 PM
Jan. 19  Four games on the agenda today all conference games and all tipping off at 7:30 PM   

Fredonia State  at     Oneonta State        7:30 PM

Fredonia is 0-9 in the YAC and is losing conference road games by an average of 22 ppg. Yet  they only lost to Brockport in their last road game by 2 points. Oneonta is 3-2 at home with losses to Geneseo and Cortland. The Blue Devils haven't beaten Oneonta in over 5 years losing 8 straight and 9 of the last 10. They haven't won in Oneonta in over 6 years. The Red Dragons are favored by 15 points in this one and that sounds about right.  Oneonta 80 Fredonia 66


Buffalo State  vs New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Bengals need to find their mojo.  I remember a few years ago they lost their mojo when a certain assistant coach left it at a roadside diner and had to retrace his steps to find it. Once he did everything got better. Losers of 3 straight and 5 of their last 6 has left them on the outside looking in, for a playoff spot, that is rapidly disappearing. They are 2 and a half games out of the 6th and final tournament berth. The good news is that 4 of their 9 remaining conference games are against teams teams below them. The bad news is that 5 of them aren't. Today they get the Hawks who have already proven they can be dangerous at home with wins over Geneseo and Western Connecticut, currently in 2nd place in the LEC conference. The Bengals are 8-2 against New Paltz in the last 10 games but both Hawk wins have come at home at the Hawk Center, where tonight's game is being played. The oddsmakers have made Buff State a 1 point underdog in this one, marking the first time all year that New Paltz has been listed as the favorite. I think the oddsmakers are wrong and that the Bengals will come away with a close win here by a final score of 77-72. 


Brockport State  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM

The Golden Eagles are hoping to leave the North Country with their share of first place a bit bigger than it has been. First up is Potsdam State and the boys from Brockport had better not overlook the Bears in anticipation of their matchup tomorrow night with Plattsburgh State which could be for sole possession of first place in the conference. Port was a bit sluggish against Fredonia last weekend and was lucky to escape with a win. The Bears won't be so giving if they happen upon a late lead as this team has turned the corner with steady improvement. Having said that, Brockport has won 5 straight games and is listed as a 10 point favorite in this one.  Potsdam has lost 13 games in a row to Brockport, with their last win coming on January 7th, 2011. They have lost those 13 games by an average of 24 ppg, but only lost to the Golden Eagles down there by 14 points back on January 7th. The Bears are better than they have been in the past 8 or 9 years so if you let them hang around they just may take advantage and grab the W.  Port still should have the horses to win this one. Brockport 86 Potsdam 75.


Geneseo State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM  The Featured Game of the Day

The Knights gave the Cardinals all they could handle in Geneseo earlier in the season. The final score of 92-83 is misleading as this was a 1 possession game at 79-77 with 2:40 left to play. The Knights missed on their end and sent the Cardinals to the line to put them up by 4 points. A steal by Plattsburgh resulted in a hoop and harm making the score 84-77 and effectively slammed the door on the Knights' chances. Ironically the oddsmakers have made that 7 point difference, the spread, favoring the Cardinals, in today's game.

Geneseo is coming off an impressive "almost" against unbeaten and #14th ranked Hamilton College (15-0) as they had a 70-61 lead with 3:54 left to play and never scored again to fall 74-70. The Knights have won 3 straight conference games to move into sole possession of 4th place in the YAC, but 2 of those wins have come against winless Fredonia. The road to the playoffs gets much tougher for the Knights, starting today in Plattsburgh. The teams split last year as they each won in the other team's house but Plattsburgh has went 8-4 in the last 12 meetings. When the Cardinals won the earlier game this year they were without leading scorer and rebounder Jon Patron. He is a difference maker as evidenced by his back to back SUNYAC Player of the Week awards since his return. He will be front and center again today. Coupled with sharpshootng guard, Eli Bryant, this tandem is as formidable as any twosome in the conference.  Plattsburgh wins this one 88-76       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 19, 2018, 07:54:48 PM
Magicman......hope you are well.
Will peek in on the Cardinal game going on right now.  Geneseo State is most interesting in that they gave Hamilton a tough game....and Hamilton comes to LeFrak gym at Amherst this weekend.  The Amherst women will be on its way  to Clinton shortly if not now.
Good luck to your Cardinals.  Believe Amherst will provide Hamilton both a tough game and a Lost :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 20, 2018, 03:39:55 AM
Final scores from Friday night:

Plattsburgh State 79   Geneseo State 73

New Paltz State 70  Buffalo State  53

Brockport State  68  Potsdam State  53

Oneonta State 76  Fredonia State 65
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 20, 2018, 07:11:01 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2018, 12:28:58 AM
Saturday final scores:

Plattsburgh State 93  Brockport State 80

Cortland State 68  Oswego State 59

Oneonta State 81  Buffalo State 67

New Paltz State 72  Fredonia State 62

Geneseo State 76  Potsdam State 74




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 21, 2018, 10:32:21 AM
Forgot to add the blowout score of the Amherst win over Hamilton, Magicman :). 
Still my once in a lifetime bold prediction can not touch your unique ability!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2018, 03:30:15 PM
Quote from: amh63 on January 21, 2018, 10:32:21 AM
Forgot to add the blowout score of the Amherst win over Hamilton, Magicman :). 
Still my once in a lifetime bold prediction can not touch your unique ability!

amh63,

I made note of your prediction and saw that you were correct. It was a blowout by your alma mater. You should make more predictions, who knows you may have the talent. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2018, 06:30:46 AM
Wrap up of Friday night's Plattsburgh-Geneseo game.

Plattsburgh State 79  Geneseo State 73

The Knights got off to an early lead but 9 straight points by the Cardinals' Jon Patron quickly put Plattsburgh in front 13-11. From there it was a tight game with 3 ties and several lead changes as neither team could open any daylight. Finally the Cardinals up by 1 at 28-27 got some breathing room when Brandon Johnson hit a jumper and Eric Mack scored inside to make it 32-27 and that's what was on the scoreboard when the team's headed into the break.

Plattsburgh slowly built a 10 point lead early in the 2nd half with 6 of those points coming at the hands of Eli Bryant.  Later in the period they stretched the lead to a game high 13 points on several occasions. The last time was at 58-45 with 9 minutes to go when Eric Mack drained a shot from downtown. The Knights tried to maintain contact and they managed to fight back and get within 6 points of the lead when Zack Panebianco swished a 3 pointer with 3:49 remaining. Eli Bryant answered with a threeball for Plattsburgh  and the Cardinals made 6 of 9 from the line to preserve the win.

Jon Patron had another double-double of 20 points and 11 rebounds to lead the Cardinals. He added 4 steals and was limited by early foul trouble in both halves.

Eli Bryant had 18 points, 2 assists and 2 steals off the bench.

Eric Mack had 17 points, 7 rebounds, and 4 blocks in 18 minutes off the bench.

Chris Middleton added 9 points, 7 rebounds, and 2 assists.

Ian Howard added 8 rebounds and 5 points.

The Cardinals were outshot by the Knights by a slight edge but Plattsburgh won the rebounding battle by a 45-29 margin. Geneseo committed 18 turnovers to 16 for Plattsburgh.


Zach Panebianco had a big effort for the Knights as he was the leading scorer in the game with 27 points. He managed to get inside and score with a variety of nice moves and also had 3 baskets from long distance.

Tommy Eastman had a double-double of 22 points and 12 rebounds as he was 10x15 from the field.

Quinn Carey had 13 points and 3 rebounds.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2018, 07:23:29 AM
Wrap up of Saturday's big game.

Plattsburgh 93  Brockport 80

I had typed up a post with my predictions but got called away by my auto repairman to pick up one of my vehicles and wasn't able to come back home and submit the post. The game was fast approaching and I didn't want to be late. I expected a tight game and picked the Cardinals to win it 88-84. These teams had met 24 times in the past 12 years and each team has won 12 games but Brockport had the edge having won the last 3 times they met including an earlier meeting this season. Both teams were trying to keep nice winning streaks alive coming into the game as well...Plattsburgh with 7 wins in a row and Port with 6.

The game started off with numerous ties and lead changes as the teams traded baskets for the first 8 minutes. Tied at 17 each, the Cardinals opened up a 12 point advantage on the strength of a 16-4 run fueled by a flurry of 3 pointers from Brandon Johnson and Eli Bryant. Johnson had 8 points and Bryant 5 in that stretch. Brockport got a pair of free throws to narrow the lead to 10 points but the Cardinals still led 33-23 and went on another scoring rampage, this time a 17-2 run to make the score 50-25. 7 straight points came from Isaiah Hill, on a jumper, an old fashioned 3 point play and a layup. Plattsburgh doubled up the Golden Eagles and went into the break up 54-27. I may be wrong but I think this was the largest lead either team has had in the past dozen years.

Brockport needed to play with a sense of urgency to start the 2nd period and close the gap to a respectable margin to get back into the game. They proceeded to do exactly that with a 13-3 run led by Justin Summers and trailed by a 57-40 margin with only 4:11 gone by in the half. However, Plattsburgh went back on top by 25 points when they had another 11-3 burst, fueled by Eli Bryant's 5 points and the Golden Eagles couldn't cut into the big lead over the next 10 minutes of play. The lead actually got bigger as Plattsburgh opened up an 86-56 advantage with 5:07 remaining in the game.  Both coaches got the reserves into the game at that point and the Brockport bench was able to narrow the gap considerably making the score a more respectable 93-80 final.

This was one of the strongest outings of the season for the Cardinals (along with the Cortland game last weekend) as 11 different players made solid contributions in the game. Five players hit double figures to power the offense and on the defensive side of the ball Plattsburgh was able to keep the Brockport trio of Hamed Shamseldin, Justin Summers and Tyler Collins 12 points under their season average.

Plattsburgh outshot Brockport in all 3 areas and won the rebounding battle 53-39. They had 21 assists to only 9 for the visitors and the turnovers were in Port's favor 13-15 but a bunch of those by Plattsburgh came near the end of the game when the reserves were doing their best to get on the scoreboard and got a little loose with the rock. The Cardinals had nine 3 pointers to only 3 for the Golden Eagles.

The officiating in this game was terrible. 3 zebras who thought they had to blow their whistles constantly. They messed up travel violations badly, were as inconsistent as possible with their foul calls and for long stretches called fouls every trip down the court. Both coaches were clearly exasperated at the officiating, especially when they called fouls on players that weren't even involved in the play (which they did on several occasions),called a flagrant foul that wasn't, and at times should have made calls and didn't. They called a total of 54 fouls in the game and at one point a member of one of the coaching staffs asked one of the officials if it was midnight yet because the game was taking so long with all the whistles. It was the 2nd year in a row that the Brockport visit to Memorial Hall was marred by an inferior crew of zebras.
   
Brandon Johnson came off the bench to lead Plattsburgh with 16 points, 7 assists, 4 rebounds and 3 steals. He also had a nice block that didn't make it in the box score.

Jon Patron just missed a double-double with 14 points and a game high, 9 rebounds. He added 2 assists and a pair of steals.

Nick DeAngelis also had 14 points hitting 4 of 7 shots from downtown.

Isaiah Hill only saw 10 minutes of action off the bench but they were productive as he had 11 points, 7 rebounds, an assists and a block.

Eli Bryant added 10 points, 5 rebounds, an assist and a steal.

Chris Middleton had 8 points, 6 rebounds, and 4 assists.

Ian Howard had 8 rebounds and 4 points in 20 minutes of court time.

Freshman Travis Cox managed to score 6 points in only 3 minutes of court time.


Brockport was led by Justin Summers who captured scoring honor with 20 points. He added 7 rebounds, 3 blocks and 1 assist.

Hamed Shamseldin had 16 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists.

Michael O'Hara came off the bench to score 11 points, grab 6 rebounds and register 3 blocks.

Plattsburgh hikes their record to 11-4 overall and 9-1 in the SUNYAC and in sole possession of first place since they own the tiebreaker over Cortland. It was the 8th straight win for the Cardinals and they will be back in action on Tuesday when they head over to take on travel partner Potsdam State at 7:30 PM in Maxcy Hall.

Brockport falls to 13-4 overall and 8-2 in the YAC, good for sole possession of 3rd place. They had their 6 game winning streak snapped and will look to get back into the win column on Friday night when they host Cortland State in another big game that could have major implications on the conference race.     





       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2018, 07:26:51 AM
A bunch of contenders for YAC Player of the Week to be selected later today. Here are the players in the mix as I see it.

Kevin Mackin Oneonta State

Justin Summers Brockport State

Tommy Eastman Geneseo State

Jon Patron Plattsburgh State
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on January 23, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
I see Plattsburgh received a vote in this week's D3hoops.com Top 25!  I assume that's their first mention of this year...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2018, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: spwood on January 23, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
I see Plattsburgh received a vote in this week's D3hoops.com Top 25!  I assume that's their first mention of this year...


They were listed in the preseason poll on November 1st  and received 7 points in the others receiving votes category. Then they promptly lost their first two games and never got another vote until this week.

What the voters didn't know and may now be finding out is that the best player on Plattsburgh's team, (2nd team All Conference last year as a sophmore) Jon Patron (20 ppg and 10 rpg last year) only had 1 and 1/2 years of eligibility left in his final two years of college. He sat out the first semester this year, his junior year, so he could have a full season next year, his senior season. Since he has returned on December 30th the Cardinals have won all seven games he played in and 8 straight overall. He won back to back SUNYAC Player of the Week awards his first 4 games back and is now the leading scorer and rebounder in the conference with 22.3 ppg and 10.5 rpg. He is a difference maker and makes everyone around him better as well, when the other team has to focus on him so much.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2018, 03:13:44 PM
Congratulations to Nicky Bonura from Cortland who was selected as the SUNYAC PLayer of the Week for the week ending January 21st.  I inadvertently had omitted Nicky from my list of weekly contenders the other day but he clearly should have been on it. 8 threes over the two games he played in, is good stuff.  Here is the writeup from the SUNYAC website.


"Nicky Bonura, MBB, Cortland, AOTW
Jan 22, 2018
Bonura averaged 17.5 points per game and shot 59 percent from the floor (13-for-22) in two Cortland victories. He was 8-of-16 from 3-point range and also averaged four rebounds per contest. The junior guard scored 14 points, including 4-of-9 3-point shooting, in an 80-64 win versus Oneonta Tuesday. He scored 21 points, 18 in the first half, and was 4-of-7 from the 3-point arc in a 68-59 win at Oswego Saturday. Bonura helped lead the Red Dragons to an overall record of 14-3."

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 23, 2018, 03:55:42 PM
Lots of chatter and post of SUNY Purchase win over Wesleyan Un. Of the Nescac yesterday by a last sec three point shot.  Purchase's team ran into the stands as seen in a video.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 23, 2018, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: amh63 on January 23, 2018, 03:55:42 PM
Lots of chatter and post of SUNY Purchase win over Wesleyan Un. Of the Nescac yesterday by a last sec three point shot.  Purchase's team ran into the stands as seen in a video.

It is a cool sequence and cool video, but SUNY Purchase is in the Skyline Conference. (However, you probably would get more discussion here than there.)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 25, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Standings update going into this weekend's conference games.
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2018, 07:34:25 PM
Thanks for the update AllStar.  Real happy to see that color of Cardinal Red at the top. Hope it stays that way through the end of February. Could you talk to the guys at Keene State and see if we can have a rematch...we'd even play it in their house. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2018, 09:53:41 AM
Off to take a trip to New Paltz and Oneonta to see the Cardinals play their final 2 road games of the season. Will get a chance to see a college fraternity brother I haven't seen in 48 years as well. Should be an exciting weekend.

Here are some quick picks for this weekend's games.

Friday Jan. 26th   Four games on tap all at 7:30 PM

Potsdam State  at  Oneonta State        7:30 PM

These Red Dragons should handle the young Bears and are favored b y 11 points. Oneonta 84 Potsdam 75

 
Oswego State  at  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

The Knights are favored by 4 points and after seeing them play last weekend I think they should prevail in this one. Geneseo 77 Oswego 72
   
Cortland State  at  Brockport State        7:30 PM  Featured Game of the Day

Would love to see the Golden Eagles knock off these Red Dragons and with the game in Brockport this is their best chance. I think Cortland has the edge in experience and will be a slim winner over Port. Cortland won both matchups last year and returns most of that talent. Cortland is favored by 2 points and I think they win it by an 82-77 final score.


Plattsburgh State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Cardinals are hot and are favored by 11 points. I think they win by 20. Plattsburgh 88 New Paltz 68




Saturday Jan. 27th    All ten teams in action in 5 conference games.    

Fredonia State  at    Buffalo State        3:00 PM

The Bengals have been struggling and the Blue Devils are still seeking their first conference win. Something has to give and I'm guessing the Bengals break their losing streak here. They are favored by 8 points and I think they cover the spread. Buffalo State 81 Fredonia 72.


Plattsburgh State  at  Oneonta State        3:00 PM

These two coaches are quite familiar with each other and the Red Dragons' Coach Conover is still looking for his first win over his former mentor.  The Cardinals won both games last year and are slim 2 point favorites in this game. I think they win by a few more.  Plattsburgh 90 Oneonta 80.

Oswego State  at  Brockport State        3:00 PM

The Lakers can't afford an 0-2 weekend but neither can Brockport. I think the Golden Eagles, favored by 7 points will prevail in this one. Brockport 78 Oswego 68


Potsdam State  at  New Paltz State        3:00 PM

The Bears are hoping to make a playoff run this weekend but I think they come up a little short. They needed to win both games and could be hard pressed to win 1. New Paltz is favored by 5 points but I'm picking the Bears to pull off a mild upset here. Potsdam State 77 New Paltz 73


Cortland State  at  Geneseo State         3:00 PM Featured Game of the Day

The Knights would love to climb into a higher playoff position so they could host a first round game. A 2-0 weekend would go a long way in helping that happen but I don't think the Cortland squad will let that happen. The Red Dragons are favored by 6 points. I think they win by a few more....Cortland 80 Geneseo 72
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 26, 2018, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2018, 07:34:25 PM
Thanks for the update AllStar.  Real happy to see that color of Cardinal Red at the top. Hope it stays that way through the end of February. Could you talk to the guys at Keene State and see if we can have a rematch...we'd even play it in their house. ;D

Ha.  Do I have that kind of pull?  Well, hopefully the theoretical rematch would be a good game  ;D

Your Cardinals seem to be playing very good basketball right now!  And as we've mentioned, they have a good stretch of home games coming up, too!  I'd love to see Keene red at the top of the Little East too...but that's not the case right now. Maybe it will change, we'll see.  The first East Conn game was disappointing...they started great but just did not sustain it at all.  KSC has some pretty good wins so far this year, but needs to continue winning ones they should and maybe even one or two others.  They have big games looming against Middlebury and at East Conn...but can't look past anyone else.  Hopefully they show well and can add to their resume.  I think their SOS is pretty good.  Hopefully we can see both of our red teams playing in March!   :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2018, 06:22:35 AM
Friday's final scores posted from a motel in Poughkeepsie at  6:20 AM Saturday morning:

Plattsburgh State 100   New Paltz State 71

Cortland State  85       Brockport State 84

Oneonta State  77   Potsdam State 67

Oswego State  72     Geneseo State  70 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 27, 2018, 08:54:02 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 30, 2018, 05:22:03 PM
Jan. 30  Six teams in action tonight with two games against non-conference teams and two games in the YAC.

Only time for some quick picks

   

SUNY-Canton at  Plattsburgh State        7:00 PM

The Cardinals are big favorites over the Kangaroos as the oddsmakers have them listed as 27 point favorites. I think the Cardinals will empty their bench early in this one and may not cover that spread. Then again....Cardinals 94 Canton 64.

Williams  at  Oneonta State        7:00 PM

The Ephs are ranked at #13 in the D3hoops Top 25. They are listed as 9 point favorites in this one and they are one of the top teams in the NESCAC conference this year. I think the Red Dragons are up against it, in this one, but would love to see an upset.  Williams 82 Oneonta 70.
   
Brockport State at  Fredonia State     7:30 PM

The Golden Eagles should take care of business here but could run into a problem. Listed as 13 point favorites they struggled against the Blue Devils last time and only won by a slim 71-69 margin and had to stage a big comeback to do so after being down 24 at the half. I think they focus a bit more this time out. Brockport 79 Fredonia 65.

Geneseo State vs  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

Two teams headed in different directions. Geneseo fighting for a home playoff game...the Bengals fighting to stay out of the cellar. Losers of 6 straight conference games, it's hard for me to pick the Bengals in this one. Oddsmakers have the Knights favored by 8 points. I think it might be a little closer but still a Geneeo win.  Geneseo 81 Buff State 76. 




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2018, 04:14:13 PM
So much to catch up on and so little time to do it. Maybe after this weekend's games.


Just a few points to make that should be mentioned.


Jon Patron scored his 1000th career point last weekend at New Paltz and I was there to watch it happen. Jon has an outside chance to break the all time Plattsburgh State scoring record currently held by Anthony Williams of 1734 points. The Cardinals will need to make the SUNYAC playoffs this year and next year and play at least 2 games in the tournament  in one of those years. They also need to make the NCAA tournament each season or at least 1 season and play 2 NCAA games. The bottom line is Jon needs to average 20 points a game and play in at least 35 games between now and the end of his senior year and he could have the record. It's a tall order but it's entirely possible he could do it.

Got to see the above mentioned Anthony Williams over the weekend as he, Danny Tangney and RJ Ponesse,  three guys from the great team of 2007-08, that ran the conference regular season, playoffs and made the Sweet 16 took the trip up to Oneonta to see the Cardinals in action. Anthony made sure to remind me that his 1734 points were scored in only 3 years, otherwise he might have set a record that would never be broken. ;D  Always good to see some of my guys from past Cardinal teams. Hope to see them again if the Cardinals get to host some tournament games.

Eli Bryant is also on pace to score his 1000th career point in the near future. The Cardinal's clutch sharpshooter has 942 points in his 3 year career and will undoubtedly crack the 1000 point barrier in the next 3 to 5 games.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2018, 04:32:30 PM
For the third time in the past 4 weeks Jon Patron has been selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Once again the Cardinals had a perfect 3-0 week with Jon leading the way. The Cardinals have yet to lose a game with Jon in the lineup.   Congratulations once again to Jon for his outstanding play. Here is the writeup from the SUNYAC website:



"Jonathan Patron, MBB, AOW, Plattsburgh
Jan 29, 2018 
Patron assisted Plattsburgh to a tri-SUNYAC sweep, including their fourth weekend in a row of sweeping conference teams. On Tuesday the junior double-doubled with 17 points and 11 rebounds to help the Cardinals to a 99-55 win over SUNY Potsdam. The Cardinal forward double-doubled in Plattsburgh States 100-71 victory over New Paltz on Friday with 24 points and 11 rebounds and also scored his 1000th point of his collegiate career. On Saturday, Patron put up 19 points and picked up seven rebounds in the Cardinals 97-60 win over Oneonta. The Cardinals are on an 11 game win streak and Patron has had a large part in every game."

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2018, 04:58:54 PM
Plattsburgh State has moved into sole possession of first place in the conference by virtue of their 12 game overall winning streak, currently the third longest streak in the nation. They have won 11 straight conference games and with the Geneso upset of Cortland last Saturday, Plattsburgh holds a one and a half game edge on those Red Dragons. The big game of the week will be in Memorial Hall this Saturday at 3:00 PM when Cortland invades the Plattsburgh campus and seeks a bit of revenge on the loss the Cardinals gave them on January 12th in Cortland. Lots of basketball to be played yet and nothing really has been decided as to who will wear the regular season crown and get to host the Final Four of the YAC tournament. I'm sure the Bropckport players still have hopes of attaining that prize as well.

It does look like the threesome of Plattsburgh, Cortland and Brockport will be the teams in the mix to host the Conference championship. Just about everyone else has too many losses to contend.

I also think the current  teams that are in the top 6 places at the present time, the three teams mentioned above along with Geneseo, Oneonta and Oswego  will be the teams in the playoffs. Fredonia and Buffalo State are virtually eliminated. Potsdam and New Paltz would need to win out and have some things go their way to make the top 6 and I just don't see that happening. The only questions other than who will host the championship, is who will get the other first round bye and who will host the first round of the playoff games.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2018, 05:52:03 PM
Feb. 2  4 games all in Conference play tonight all tipping off at 7:30 PM   

Oneonta State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

These Red Dragons would like to catch Geneseo and get a home playoff game, but even if they beat Geneseo in the rematch on February 10th, the Knights will still hold the tiebreaker by virtue of their win over Cortland last week. Fredonia is playing for pride at this point in the season and are 10 point underdogs coming into this game. Oneonta won the last game by 11 points. They may be in for a battle tonight. Oneonta prevails but it's a close one.  Oneonta 76 Fredonia 71.     



Cortland State  at  Potsdam State         7:30 PM

These Red Dragons should handle the Bears and will look to get their bench in action as early as possible. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a 12 point favorite, but I think they win by more than that. Coach Spanbauer will have his team focused and they won't be looking ahead to the Plattsburgh game on Saturday. Cortland 86 Potsdam 69.



New Paltz State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The New Paltz team I saw in the first half against Plattsburgh would win this game. The problem ios playing 2 halves like that. Buffalo State is not the team that started out the season and I'm not sure where that team went to. I expected more from them. Now they have nothing left to play for except pride.  They are slim 2 point favorites here and lost to the Hawks by 17 points last time they met. I think the Hawks win this one again b ut the score will be closer. New Paltz 75 Buffalo State 70     


Oswego State  at  Plattsburgh State   7:30 PM Featured Game of the Day

Plattsburgh has been on fire and their defensive play has led the way. They have won 12 games in a row by an average of 17.75 points per game and over 30 ppg in their last 5 outings. Since Jon Patron has rejoined the team they are undefeated and are in good shape to position themselves for a home playoff game and possibly even host the Final Four. They know that tyhe game agaionst Cortland Srtate on Saturday will be huge but have no illusions about the challenges that Oswego State will present this evening. Oswego has been a perennial spoiler against the Cardinals the past few years and that will be on the minds of the players as well as the coaching staff.  Oswego would like to move up in the standings and possibly get a first round home playoff game. I think the odds are against them for that to happen. I expect the Cardinals to take care of business tonight and so do the oddmakers as they have made Plattsburgh a solid 10 point favorite. Plattsburgh won the last meeting in Oswego 3 weeks ago by an 89-75 score. I think they do more of the same tonight. Plattsburgh 83 Oswego 69.   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 02, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
Go Bears, beat Dragons 65-64 and then a stop at the buzzer, Sorry Magic, think Corts will be loaded for bird tomorrow aftenoon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2018, 04:05:36 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 02, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
Go Bears, beat Dragons 65-64 and then a stop at the buzzer, Sorry Magic, think Corts will be loaded for bird tomorrow aftenoon.

Quite happy with the results of the Potsdam/Cortland game. The score was given to me as I was exiting the Plattsburgh/Oswego game and it was the perfect ending to a good day. It takes a little away from the drama of Saturday's game against the Red Dragons but a 2 and a half game lead is well worth it.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2018, 01:45:42 PM
Friday Night Final Scores:

Plattsburgh State 74   Oswego State 60

Potsdam State 65   Cortland State 64

Buffalo State 81  New Paltz State 77

Fredonia State 85  Oneonta State 68
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2018, 02:19:47 PM
Feb. 3   All 10 teams in action today with 5 games on the slate.   


Oswego State  at  Potsdam State        3:00 PM

The Lakers won't want to head home with an 0-2 record to show for the weekend. They gave Plattsburgh a pretty good game last night despite not having their leading scorer for most of the game. Potsdam with the biggest upset of the SUNYAC season last night nipping Cortland 65-64 would like to keep the good vibes happening. Oddsmakers have Oswego favored by 6 points. I think the Lakers win a close one.  Oswego 71 Potsdam 67 


Brockport State  at  Geneseo State        3:00 PM

Brockport needs this game to stay with Cortland in hopes of a first round bye. That most likely will be determined on the last day of the season when those two teams square off. Geneseo is hoping for a home playoff game in the first round and currently is in position to host one. Port is favored by a slim 1 point. I think they win this one 80-76 


Oneonta State  at  Buffalo State        3:00 PM

Red Dragons struggled last night against Fredonia but recover to win this one 85-80


New Paltz State  at  Fredonia State        3:00 PM

Tough one to call as both teams playing for pride. Hawks are favored by 3 points but I'm taking the Blue Devils at home. Fredonia 71 New Paltz 67

Cortland State  at  Plattsburgh State        3:00 PM  The featured Game of the Week

Cardinals won by 2 points down in Cortland and I expect another close game today. Plattsburgh is favored by 4 points and they can all but lock up the top seed in the YAC with a win today. I'm hopeful that will happen. Plattsburgh 84 Cortland 79. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 03, 2018, 08:59:42 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2018, 10:00:21 PM
Saturday's Final Scores.

Plattsburgh State  90  Cortland State  67

Oswego State 68   Potsdam State 62

Geneseo State  105 Brockport State 78

Buffalo State 72  Oneonta State 70

New Paltz State 70  Fredonia State 66    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2018, 11:21:54 PM
Nothing yet listed on the SUNYAC website but I believe Plattsburgh State has clinched the top seed in the SUNYAC Tournament, which means they will host the Final Four.

At 14-1 and with only 3 conference games remaining, if Plattsburgh were to somehow lose all 3 games they would end up with a 14-4 record. Nobody can better that and only Brockport or Cortland can end up with a 14-4 record. Since the Red Dragons and Golden Eagles play each other on February 17th one of them will end up with at least 5 losses. Plattsburgh owns the head to head tiebreaker over Cortland having won both meetings, and also owns the tiebreaker over Brockport. Since the teams split their regular season meetings the results versus either Cortland or Geneseo would determine the tiebreaker between Plattsburgh and Brockport. Since the Cardinals are 4-0 against Cortland and Geneseo and Brockport has already lost a game to each of those teams Plattsburgh wins the the tiebreaker.

So the regular season crown is Plattsburgh's by virtue of their big win today over Cortland and Brockport's loss to Geneseo.

Plattsburgh has now won 14 games in a row and that's the 3rd longest current winning streak in Division III. Only undefeated #1 Whitman and #3 Wittenberg have longer current winning streaks than the Cardinals.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 04, 2018, 12:17:25 AM
Plattsburgh's Jon Patron continues to dominate the SUNYAC conference as he put together 3 performances this week that got better as the week went on.

On Tuesday night against SUNY-Canton, an 88-58 Plattsburgh win, he scored 20 points had 17 rebounds and 3 assists in 25 minutes of court time. He was 8x19 from the field and 4x4 from the line.

On Friday night against Oswego State, a 74-60 Plattsburgh victory, he scored 27 points, had 10 rebounds, was 10x14 from the field, 2x2 from long range and 5x5 from the line in 25 minutes of playing time.

On Saturday afternoon in a 90-67 win over Cortland State, Jon had his 3rd double-double of the week with 30 points and 11 rebounds in 30 minutes of court time. He was 9x21 from the field and 12x12 from the line.

For the week he averaged 25 points per game and 12 rebounds per game.He was 27x54 from the field and 21x21 from the line.

In 13 games this year he has had 9 double-doubles and just missed by a few rebounds in the other 4 games.

He may not get his 4th Player of the Week award since January but it will only be because the SUNYAC office wants to spread it around.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2018, 05:50:27 PM
Jon Patron's numbers were too much to be ignored and once again for the 4th time in 5 weeks he is the SUNYAC Player of the Week.  Hoping he makes the D3hoops Team of the Week as well. Here's the writeup from the SUNYAC website:

"Plattsburgh's Patron earns SUNYAC Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week
Feb 05, 2018
 
CORTLAND, N.Y.- The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected the winner for Athlete of the Week in men's basketball. The winner was selected out of top nominations from across the conference.

Plattsburgh's Jonathan Patron has been named Athlete of the Week for men's basketball. The junior's three double-doubles this week led Plattsburgh to three victories and another SUNYAC sweep averaging 25.7 points and 12.7 rebounds. In a matchup with Cortland, Patron's 31 minutes on the court led to him scoring 33 points and grabbing 11 rebounds, leading the Cardinals to a convincing 90-67 win over the Red Dragons. Patron also enjoyed a 27 point, 10 rebound performance in a winning effort against Oswego the night prior."


One small error as Jon "only" had 30 points against Cortland on Saturday instead of the 33 in the article.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2018, 10:27:51 PM
Just checked the front page of D3hoops and spotted the newly released D3hoops Team of the Week for games from Jan. 29th thru Feb. 4th.  As I hoped, Jon Patron was named to the team marking the 2nd time this season a SUNYAC player received the weekly award...Justin Cooper made the team in week #3 back in December for games from Dec. 4th thru Dec. 10th

Congratulations to Jon for this latest honor. Perhaps he can win the Triple Crown this week and make the ECAC Player of the Week for the North Region.

Here's the link to the D3hoops story:   http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2017-18/week9
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 06, 2018, 02:15:18 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll has been released and the Plattsburgh State Cardinals have jumped from 37th place last week with 8 votes to 27th place this week with 37 votes. If they can win their final 3 conference games they might crack the Top 25 by the end of the regular season.

Hobart College did move into the Top 25 as they went from 34th place and 10 votes to 25th place with 57 votes this time around.

No other team in the East Region has any votes.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 07, 2018, 05:42:22 PM
Men's first regional rankings this season: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Plattsburgh State ranked #2 in the East Region behind Hobart. Rochester is 3rd. Cortland and Brockport are 4th and 5th. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 08, 2018, 03:42:53 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2018, 05:15:05 PM
Feb. 9  Full slate of games tonight with all 10 teams in action. All tipping off at 7:30 PM

Buffalo State  at  Oswego State    7:30 PM

The Bengals finally broke their long losing streak with a pair of wins in their last 2 outings. Tonight they face a Laker team who wants to solidify their spot in the playoffs. Buffalo State hasn't been eliminated from the playoffs yet but they need to win out and hope that either Oswego or Oneonta lose their remaining conference games. The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a solid 10 point favorite in this one. I think the Bengals keep it closer but see the Lakers winning by an 83-76 final score.


Fredonia State  at  Cortland State 7:30 PM

The Blue Devils have went 2-2 in their last 4 conference games. A case of too little too late but they can make things tough for the Red Dragons if they play like they have been. Cortland needs to regroup after suffering their longest losing streak...3 games...in over 3 years. The oddsmakers have them listed as an 18 point favorite and they should cover that spread. Cortland 85 Fredonia 65


New Paltz State   at  Geneseo State  7:30 PM

The Hawks have also shown some life lately and first year Coach Kenny has to be happy with the progress the team has made throughout the season. They beat this Geneseo team earlier in the year by a 73-60 score and are coming off a road win at Fredonia. Geneseo won't want to slip up this time around and they are still alive to claim the #2 seed and a first round bye in the playoffs. They certainly want a home game if they have to play in the first round so that is the very least they will be shooting for. They are listed as a 13 point favorite over the Hawks and after their recent 3 game winning streak seem to be peaking at the right time. I'll take the Knights to win this one and cover the spread. Geneseo 81 New Paltz 66   


Oneonta State  at  Brockport State    7:30 PM   Featured Game of the Night

The Red Dragons are tied with the Lakers for the last two spots in the YAC tournament. They can still get a home game but pretty much have to win out and hope the teams ahead of them suffer some losses. I think they finish in 5th or 6th place and hit the road for a first round game. The Golden Eagles still have their sights set on a first round bye. A good chance that won't be determined until the final game of the year against those other Red Dragons in Cortland. Tonight the oddsmakers have made Brockport a 9 point favorite despite an earlier 87-83 victory by Oneonta back in December. It's tough to beat the Golden Eagles in Brockport. I see Port winning this one 87-81. 


Potsdam State  at   Plattsburgh State  7:30 PM

The North Country rivals go at it once more and Plattsburgh looking to keep their long 14 game winning streak alive. (3rd longest current streak in the country in Division III).

The Cardinals have already claimed the top seed in the SUNYAC playoffs and will look to add to their overall resume in the event an at large bid is needed to gain entry into the NCAA tournament. Potsdam is looking to finish with a winning record and is mathematically still alive for a playoff spot. They need to win out and get some help to do so and I don't think it will happen, but they did show a ton of improvement this year and Coach Jim Bechtel has them headed in the right direction. The oddsmakers have Plattsburgh listed as a 20 point favorite and I think they win by a few more. Plattsburgh 95 Potsdam 70.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2018, 12:00:53 AM
Friday Night's final scores.

Plattsburgh State 104  Potsdam State 76

Oswego State 69   Buffalo State 59

Cortland State 75  Fredonia State 52

Brockport State 89   Oneonta State 72

Geneseo State 81  New Paltz State 67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2018, 01:54:22 PM
Feb. 10    Four games on tap all with implications in the playoff spots. Tip off time is 3:00 PM for all games.

 

Fredonia State  at  Oswego State        3:00 PM

The Lakers moved into sole possession of 5th place with their win last night over Buff State. The SUNYAC website is not showing that the Lakers have clinched a playoff spot but with 8 wins nobody can knock them out of at least the 6th seed. None of the bottom 4 teams can get to 8 wins. So they are in and will probably have to travel to the likely 4th seed...Geneseo... for a first round playoff game, although they still have an outside chance of moving up to the 4th seed. Fredonia is playing for pride and hoping for a copuple of more wins to end the season on a positive note. Oddsmakers have the Lakers favored by 12 points. They should cover the spread. Oswego 74 Fredonia 60.

   
Oneonta State  at    Geneseo State        3:00 PM   Featured Game of the Day

These Red Dragons need to win a game to secure a playoff berth. They have 3 tough ones left and they are all on the road. They are currently in the midst of a 5 game losing streak and 2 of those games were conference games they could have won. Tonight they take on the Knights who are playing their best ball of the year and then Oneonta has to travel North to face Plattsburgh who has been awesome since the new year began. If they lose those two games they will face a "winner is in" game against Potsdam on February 17th. There is a good chance if Potsdam wins that game that they might own the tiebreaker over Oneonta.

Geneseo still looking to claim the #2 seed and it's certainly a possibility but Brockport would need to lose two of their final 3 games since the Golden Eagles would own the tiebreaker over the Knights by virtue of their win over Plattsburgh State. They can leapfrog Cortland for the #3 seed though if they win their 2nd meeting on Feb 16th.

The oddsmakers have made the Knights an 8 point favorite in this one and Geneseo should cover. I think it will be Geneseo 82 Oneonta 72.

   
New Paltz State at  Brockport State        3:00 PM

The Golden Eagles can't afford any slip ups here if they want to capture the 2nd seed and get the first round bye. Next weekend will be two road games in places they have trouble winning so taking care of business today is essential. The Hawks would also like to end the season on a positive note but seem up against it today. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 14 point favorite, I think they win by a few more.  Brockport  87  New Paltz 68.


Buffalo State    at  Cortland State        3:00 PM

The Bengals are looking to play the spoiler role and have something to celebrate in a rebuilding year. The Red Dragons have business to take care up to claim the #2 seed. A loss here and they could head into next weekend with a must win situation to avoid falling into a road game in the playoffs. I don't think that will happen but the SUNYAC has had stranger things occur over the years. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a 15 point favorite in this one. I think the Red Dragons win by an 85-67 final score.   


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 10, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
Tough ride home. This is the first time in years that i can remember my BENGALS out of the playoff hunt with a week to go.  I feel for Mike, J O and Malik.  Was wishing that they could have left with a shot at the chip. But alas...it ain't happening. 

Times like this help our boys grow. I'm hoping that the guys look at thier last game vs Fredonia as a chance to close out with a win.  They deserve it.

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 10, 2018, 09:44:55 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2018, 11:15:51 AM
Final scores from Saturday Afternoon.

Geneseo State 73  Oneonta State 68

Oswego State 76  Fredonia State 73

Brockport State 97 New Paltz State 67

Cortland State 105 Buffalo State 88


The SUNYAC site finally acknowledging that Oswego won a playoff spot but they didn't need to win on Saturday to clinch one having already done so when they beat Buffalo State on Friday night.

Brockport and Cortland still on a collision course to see who gets the #2 seed that may come down to the last day of the season when they meet in Cortland.

Geneseo still has hopes of crashing the Cort-Port party by winning out.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2018, 12:04:22 PM
The new D3hoops Top 25 came out last night and Plattsburgh State which was in 27th place last week with 37 votes increased their vote total to 61 for this week. However they went backward instead of forward as they slipped to the 28th spot.

The Cardinals only played 1 game last week and that may have hurt their chances to move up. Also Johns Hopkins who did not  receive a single vote last week, captured the fancy of a number of voters (and rightly so) after they won back to back double overtime victories against 2 ranked teams. They leapt over at least 20 teams to enter the Top 25 in 22nd place. Salem State, who was in 26th place last week, was the only other new entry into the Top 25 as they claimed the final spot in the poll.

Hobart moved up to #21 with 120 votes from last week's  #25 with 57 votes.

No other East Region team got a mention.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2018, 07:50:14 PM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 2/11/18 was Geneseo's Quinn Carey. Congratulations to Quinn on his big weekend. Here's the writeup from the SUNYAC website.


Quinn Carey, MBB, AOW, Geneseo     
Carey averaged 27.5 points per game in a pair of SUNYAC wins as the Knights took down conference foes New Paltz, 81-67, on Friday night and Oneonta, 73-68, on Saturday. Against the Hawks, Carey tied a pair of career-highs with 31 points and seven made three-pointers, shooting 61.5% from the floor, including 58.3% from behind the arc, and added four rebounds and a block. In the Knights' win over the Red Dragons, Carey scored 24 points, including a perfect 8-for-8 from the foul line, and grabbed six rebounds and a steal. He ranks 16th in the nation and leads the conference in made three-point field goals per game (3.57).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 14, 2018, 02:01:44 PM
Week 2 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
The 2nd Regional Rankings didn't show much change from last week. Same 8 treams are ranked with the first two and the last three in the exact same spots they were last week. Hobart and Plattsburgh State are still 1-2 and the only change is Cortland and Brockport both leapfrogging over Rochester to come in 3rd and 4th.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2018, 02:20:07 AM
Nice front page article on the Plattsburgh State Cardinals by D3hoops columnist Andrew Lovell.

Here's the link:

http://www.d3hoops.com/columns/around-the-region/east/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2018, 04:52:20 PM
Feb. 16   
Four games today in the YAC with playoff implications for 6 of the 8 teams. Only Plattsburgh the #1 seed and New Paltz already
eliminated from the playoffs won't be affected by the outcome of today's games. All games tip off at 7:30 PM.   


Geneseo State  at  Cortland State        7:30 PM   Co-featured Game of the Day

Geneseo still trying to gain the 2nd seed so they have plenty of incentive to pull off the upset here. They also can secure a home playoff game in the first round with 1 more win if they fail to gain the 2nd seed. Cortland has to avoid looking ahead to the Brockport game tomorrow because the Blue knights just might be more dangerous than any other team that doesn't have a Cardinal for a mascot. The oddsmakers  have made the Red Dragons a 6 point favorite in this one. Geneseo hung with Plattsburgh back on January 19th giving them their closest game in the past ten contests losing to the Cardinals in Plattsburgh by a 79-73 score.  The Knights also defeated Cortland in their first meeting by a sizable margin 77-53. I think they can win on the road as well. I'll take the Knights in a close one 76-73 over Cortland.       


Brockport State  at  Oswego State           7:30 PM Co-featured Game of the Day

Brockport  would love a first round bye and they just may get it but to do so they will still have to beat Cortland on Saturday. If they defeat Cortland then they win tiebreakers against Cortland and Geneseo by virtue of their win against Plattsburgh. Oswego is still alive to get a home playoff game but needs to win both games this weekend. The Golden Eagles are listed as a 3 point road favorite but they have struggled in Laker Hall's Max Ziel Gym, going 2-8 there in the last 10 trips. I think that Brockport manages to win a close one today, however and set the stage for a big showdown tomorrow with Cortland.  Brockport 77 Oswego 74     


New Paltz State  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM

The Bears are clinging to their playoff life by a slender thread, but a win tonight over the Hawks, combined by help from their North Country neighbor, Plattsburgh, over Oneonta will put Potsdam in some control of their destiny when they face Oneonta tomorrow afternoon. Another win would give them the tiebreaker over the Red Dragons if the other Red Dragons come in 2nd place. If Brockport comes in 2nd then Oneonta wins the tiebreaker. The Bears are listed as 4 point favorites against the Hawks who would just like to improve their won-loss record. I'm rooting for my alma mater here and think the Bears have more to play for. Potsdam lost their point guard to a season ending injury but I still think Potsdam wins this one. Potsdam 75 New Paltz 72.

              
Oneonta State  at  Plattsburgh State   7:30 PM

These Red Dragons need to win 1 game this weekend to claim a playoff berth, or have Potsdam lose both their games. My predictions think that both of those possibilities will have to wait until tomorrow to take place. Plattsburgh is simply trying to improve their overall record. They want to look good in case an at large bid is needed to gain entry into the NCAA tournament, should the Cardinals not win the SUNYAC conference tournament. Two wins this weekend would give them a 20-4 regular season record and extend their winning streak to 17 straight games and 71 straight days without a loss. The 2nd longest current winning streak in the nation. Oneonta would love to pull off the upset here as Coach Conover is 0-3 against his former mentor. Plattsburgh won by 37 points 20 days ago and they are favored by 15 points in today's game. I think they win by a few more. Plattsburgh 92 Oneonta 68. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2018, 10:35:43 PM
Friday finals scores.

Cortland State 76  Geneseo State 52

Brockport State 69  Oswego State 67

Potsdam State 68 New Paltz State 56

Plattsburgh State 95  Oeonta State 74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 17, 2018, 01:46:55 PM
Feb. 17  Everyone in action on the final day of the regular season. Several playoff spots still in play. All games tip off at 3:00    

Buffalo State  at Fredonia State        3:00 PM

Lot of pride on the line in this game. Which team will walk off the court feeling a little better about their last game. The oddsmakers have made the Blue Devils a slight two point favorite. I'm taking the Bengals to avoid the season sweep. Buffalo State 82 Fredonia 77


Geneseo State  at  Oswego State        3:00 PM

These two teams are locked into their playoff spots after both lost last night. The Knights are the 4th seed and the Lakers get the 5th seed. The outcome of today's game won't alter anything and they will meet again on Tuesday February 20th in Geneseo to see who will advance in the YAC Tournament.  The Knights are favored by a single point in this one today. I like them to rebound after last night's loss to Cortland. Geneseo wins this one 75-70. 


Oneonta State  at  Potsdam State        3:00 PM

This would be the game of the day if not for the Cort-Port game. Potsdam needs to win and hope Cortland beats Brockport. That would give them the tiebreaking edge over Oneonta by virtue of the Bears win over Cortland who beat Oneonta twice.  If the Bears win and Port beats Cortland then Oneonta wins the tiebreaker by virtue of their win over Brockport  who beat Potsdam twice. If the Bears lose, well there will be joy in Mudville Oneonta as these Red Dragons make the playoffs with a win, after dropping 7 games in a row. The Bears have made some big improvements this year and their hopes of a playoff berth are almost a reality, but I think they are a year away. Coach Bechtel who has been in the rebuilding mode since his arrival 2 years ago and Coach Conover who had to begin this season with the loss of 3 of the top players to come out of Oneonta State, all 1000 point scorers, have both done masterful jobs this hyear. Both teams were competitive and are fighting for the final playoff spot on the last day of the season. Both teams pulled off upsets against some of the league's heavyweights and both will have a ton of talent back next year. The Red Dragons are favored to win by a slender 2 point margin and it should be a close game. Oneonta grabs the final playoff spot with a 78-73 win in this one.
         

Brockport State  at  Cortland State     3:00 PM   The Featured Game of the Day

Nothing complicated here. The winner gets the #2 seed and a bye through to the semifinals. The loser gets the #3 seed and a home game on Tuesday in the quarterfinal round. Cortland is favored by 4 points in this one and at the beginning of the year I had Plattsburgh and Cortland coming in as the #1 and #2 seeds in the YAC. Nothing has changed my mind since then. Cortland won by a point in Brockport earlier in the year. i think they win today by a 86-81 final score.


New Paltz State  at  Plattsburgh State        3:00 PM

Plattsburgh trying to keep the winning steak intact and push it to 17 straight. New Paltz trying to pull off an upset that would make their season. They hung with the Cardinals for the first half down at New Paltz but today is Senior Day nd the Cardinals are on a mission. Favored by 22 points I think they win by more. Plattsburgh 94 New Paltz 62.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 17, 2018, 08:44:58 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2018, 12:55:22 PM
Saturday's final results.


Plattsburgh State 102  New Paltz State 69

Oswego State 65  Geneseo State 58

Brockport State 66  Cortland State 53

Oneonta State 72  Potsdam State 60

Buffalo State 90  Fredonia State 85

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 18, 2018, 07:56:00 PM
Earliest exit for my BENGALS in recent memory. Good to at least finish on a winning note.

Congrats to the Cards/ Magic on going from out house ( no playoffs last year) to penthouse ( hosting playoffs this year). What a difference a year makes.

1st round games can go either way.  Doubt anyone at Oneonta or Oswego looks at themselves as underdogs!

Hoping for multiple NCAA bids for the Yac!

Go YAC!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2018, 11:55:44 PM
Plattsburgh State has made the D3hoops Top 25 poll as they received 92 votes and jumped from the 28th spot in the ORV category to the #21 spot.  It's the first time the Cardinals have made the Top 25 this year.

Hobart was #21 last week but they only received 59 votes and dropped into the Others Receiving Votes category at #28.

Brockport also received a mention this week getting 1 vote.

Here's the link to the Top 25:

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2017-18/week12
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2018, 12:06:40 AM
Plattsburgh State senior guard Eli Bryant was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 2-18. Eli scored his 1000th career point on Saturday against New Paltz, accomplishing this feat in only 3 seasons at Plattsburgh. He put together 2 games over the weekend where he averaged 20.5 ppg and 5 assists per game. Congratulations to Eli on his outstanding season and excellent week.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.


"Eli Bryant, MBB, AOW, Plattsburgh
Feb 19, 2018   
Eli Bryant was a standout in both games for the Cardinals as they closed the regular season with two more SUNYAC wins. On Friday Bryant scored 22 points and added five assists in Plattsburgh's 95-74 victory over Oneonta. On Saturday Bryant drained a three-pointer to record his 1000th career point and went on to score 19 points overall and pick up five more assists in the Cardinals 102-69 triumph over New Paltz on Senior Night."



   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2018, 03:10:26 AM
Time to announce the SUNYAC All Conference performers that I have on my lists.  Always tough decisions and I list more guys than the conference does because I can. All of the players listed below had great seasons and were enjoyable to watch. And I can guarantee you that nobody watched more than I did.  ;D

SUNYAC Player of the Year    Jon Patron            Junior Forward       Plattsburgh State     

Rookie of the Year                Sheldon Adams     Freshman Guard    Buffalo State

Coach of the Year                 Tom Curle            15th Season          Plattsburgh State

First Team All Conference

Jon Patron                Junior            F      Plattsburgh State

Justin Summers        Sophomore     F      Brockport State

Hamed Shamseldin   Senior            G      Brockport State

Eli Bryant                 Senior            G      Plattsburgh State

James Morales          Senior            G      Cortland State


2nd Team All Conference

Mike Henry               Senior             G     Buffalo State

Justin Cooper           Junior              G     Cortland State

Jamir Ferebee          Senior              G    Oswego State

Tommy Eastman      Sophomore       F     Geneseo State

Eric Mack                Senior               F    Plattsburgh State


3rd Team All Conference

Quinn Carey           Junior                G    Geneseo State

Kevin Mackin          Sophomore        G    Oneonta State

Dante Langley        Junior                G/F Potsdam State 

Ian Helps               Senior                F    Fredonia State

Zach Lydon            Junior                 F   Cortland State


Honorable Mention

Tyler Collins                 Junior           G   Brockport State

Sir.Quinton Campbell   Sophomore    F    Buffalo State

Nicky Bonura              Junior             G   Cortland State

Kay Jackson                5th Year         G   Fredonia State

Zack Panebianco         Junior             G   Geneseo State

Kevin Crockett            Senior             G   Geneseo State

Dylan Balducci            Senior             G   New Paltz State

Brandon Guest            Senior             F  New Paltz State

Ian Schultz                 Sophomore     F   Oneonta State

Dwayne Freeman         Senior           G   Oneonta State

Tyler Pierre                 Junior            C   Oswego State

Josh Ivey                    Senior            F   Oswego State

Liam Sanborn              Freshman      G   Oswego State

Chris Middleton            Junior           G/F Plattsburgh State

Zac Johnson                Senior            G  Plattsburgh State

Ian Howard                 Junior             F  Plattsburgh State

Brandon Johnson        Junior             G  Plattsburgh State

Danny Delsol-Lowry     Sophomore    G   Potsdam State

Nosa Onabor               Junior            G Potsdam State
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 20, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
Magicman....contgrats to your favorite SUNY school!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2018, 05:43:30 PM
Quote from: amh63 on February 20, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
Magicman....contgrats to your favorite SUNY school!

Thanks amh63. Your school is having a bit of a resurgence at season's end as well. Who knows...they may meet one another once again down the road. I will be there courtside if that happens....hopefully you will be there as well. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2018, 07:38:39 PM
I think Cortland defeats Oneonta by an 83-70 final score


Taking Geneseo to reverse last Saturdays decision and beat Oswego by a 75-71 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Upsets in the making as Oswego leads Geneseo 83-71 with under two minutes to play.

Oneonta led Cortland the entire first half and is up by 10 points, 33-23, at the break.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2018, 08:37:32 PM
Oswego defeats Geneseo 95-84 to advance to the semi's and take on Plattsburgh State Friday night at 7:30 PM in the 'Burgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 20, 2018, 09:17:03 PM
#6 seed Oneonta completes upset Tuesday with a 60-57 win over #3 seed Cortland by a 60-57 final score. They will now face off against Brockport at 5:30 PM on Friday night in Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 21, 2018, 02:00:12 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2018, 02:41:32 PM
The NCAA men's basketball regional advisory committees released their third set of rankings, and as expected, the Atlantic Region was among those getting shuffled. Here's the full list: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-third

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 21, 2018, 03:52:36 PM
I wondered if Plattsburgh would move up... in comparing Hobart with Plattsburgh, records are a wash:  21-4 vs. 20-4.  RNK has Plattsburgh at 3-3 and Hobart is 1-2.  SOS has Hobart at .525 and Plattsburgh at .517.  Seems like a very close comparison to me.  Is .008 a significant difference in SOS?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2018, 04:05:46 PM
Quote from: spwood on February 21, 2018, 03:52:36 PM
I wondered if Plattsburgh would move up... in comparing Hobart with Plattsburgh, records are a wash:  21-4 vs. 20-4.  RNK has Plattsburgh at 3-3 and Hobart is 1-2.  SOS has Hobart at .525 and Plattsburgh at .517.  Seems like a very close comparison to me.  Is .008 a significant difference in SOS?

No... not significant at all. They are probably splitting hairs a bit. I haven't figured out how the comparable opponents work, but the non-conference SOS goes to Hobart in a landslide (.590 to .519). If they went to secondary criteria, that argument is over.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2018, 04:41:13 PM
No surprise that Hobart is still ranked #1 in the region. The conference tournaments could certainly change the final rankings next week if Hobart should lose and Plattsburgh wins. If both teams win the automatic conference  bids it's entirely possible the East Region won't get an at large bid. Brockport would be a possibility with a win and a loss in the SUNYAC tournament to finish 20-7. I don't think anyone else has a chance.

If either Hobart or Plattsburgh or both get upset in their conference tournaments it's possible the East could get 3 or 4 teams in the NCAA's as either of those teams could get an at large bid, to go along with the automatic bid winners.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 21, 2018, 10:57:04 PM

Guys, can I get a pronunciation guide for Jonathan Patron?  I'm taping a radio spot with ESPN Burlington tomorrow and I don't want to sound silly.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2018, 12:08:05 AM
Ryan his name is pronounced as if you were a patron of the arts ...PAY-tron.    I like to consider him our patron saint!! :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
And then there were four.

Semifinals today at Plattsburgh State. First game tips off at 5:30 PM followed by the next game at 7:30 PM

Oneonta State  vs  Brockport State   5:30

The Golden Eagles were supposed to be here in the Final Four. Oneonta is the party crasher. These Red Dragons took down the favored Red Dragons from Cortland in Cortland...no easy feat...and they did it by leading almost from start to finish. Trailing by a 6-5 score early in the game, Oneonta scored 7 unanswered points and never trailed after that. They led for a good portion of the game by a margin of 7 to 13 points and only in the final 7 minutes did Cortland pull within a single possession and make the outcome of the game in doubt. Oneonta hung tough and completed the upset due to their ability to control the boards against Cortland. They had a decided 44-25 edge off the glass and had 15 offensive rebounds to only 6 for Cortland. Harrison Deegan and Joseph Bull came off the bench to provide a big lift as they combined for 29 points...15 for Deegan and 14 for Bull. Ian Schultz (15) and Sean Nolan (12) both set career highs for the number of rebounds they grabbed.

Oneonta will need to get another helping  of those performances today if they hope to spring upset # 2 on Brockport. The Golden Eagles are coming into this game on a 4 game winning streak, which includes an 89-72 win over these Red Dragons 2 weeks ago. Oneonta did manage to beat Brockport back in December by an 87-83 score, so this is the rubber match to see who will move into the Championshiop game. The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles an 8 point favorite in this game and they will depend heavily on their two all conference performers, Hamed Shamseldin and Justin Summers. If Oneonta can somehow slow this pair down they may keep the game close and be there at the end. However, I think the experience of Brockport will be the deciding factor and look for the Golden Eagles to come away with an 85-76 win.



Oswego State  at  Plattsburgh State  7:30 PM 

This will be the 3rd time in the last 4 years that the Cardinals and Lakers have squared off in the SUNYAC tournament. The Lakers won both of the previous meetings. Plattsburgh owns a pair of playoff wins against Oswego in 2007 and 2008 so this one will give the winner a leg up.

Oswego comes into the game with back to back wins over the #4 seed, Geneseo and has won 5 of their last 6 games. They struggled against the top 3 teams in the YAC going 0-6 but were right there in many of those games. They did manage to put 95 points on the board Tuesday against the Knights in Geneseo so they are a dangerous team and with nothing to lose will come at Plattsburgh with everything they have. Coach Leone will have his troops prepared and will try and take as much time off the clock as they can to limit the touches of an athletic Plattsburgh team. All five starters were in double figures on Tuesday night led by Jamir Ferebee's 21 points and 20 points from Ian Schupp. Tyler Pierre added a double-double of 18 points and 10 rebounds.

Plattsburgh State is on a roll that stretches back to December 9th when they started their 17 game winning streak. Go to guy, Jon Patron, has yet to lose this year after joining the team on December 30th. His all conference teammate, Eli Bryant, is one of the top scorers in the YAC and does so coming off the bench and getting less minutes than many other players in the league Add in Eric Mack, who leads the conference in blocked shots, to provide excellent interior defense and you have a recipe for success. Plattsburgh plays a rotation that goes 9 deep and has multiple guys that can lead the team in scoring.           

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 12 point favorite in this one. I think they win by a final score of 80-66.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2018, 01:24:14 AM
Results of the Semi-Finals at Plattsburgh State Friday night.

Oneonta State 82  Brockport State 77


Plattsburgh State 89 Oswego State 76


Oneonta  at Plattsburgh for the SUNYAC Title at 4:00 PM Saturday.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 24, 2018, 01:44:23 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Plattsburgh 89  Oswego 76

I had the Cardinals winning by an 80-66 final score so my margin of victory was close even though both teams put more points on the board.  Oswego was down by 20 points with 5 minutes to go and the pace of the game sped up a bit as they tried to close the big gap.

The Cardinals opened up with a 6-0 lead, but the Lakers cut it to 6-5 and were only down 13-10 6 minutes into the game. Plattsburgh went on an 11-0 run getting 5 points from Eli Bryant and 4 points from Jon Patron to go up 24-10 and it looked like the rout was on. The Lakers refused to fold however and fought back scoring the next 7 points and eventually closing the gap to 30-26 with 6:11 left in the half. Plattsburgh never trailed but couldn't put the Lakers away despite gaining double digit leads on several occasions in the period. Up by 9 at 40-31 after a Zack Coleman 3 pointer,  the Cardinals  missed their final 3 shots and Oswego's Tim Marshall canned a 3 pointer to narrow the deficit to 40-34 at the break.

Plattsburgh spent the early parts of the 2nd period trying to pull away from the Lakers and led by 5 to 9 points over the first 5 minutes.   Oswego was down 51-43 but once again a 7-2 spurt by the Lakers brought them to within a single possession at 53-50. That was as close as they could get as Plattsburgh finally found the rhythm to put the visitors away. Led by Patron and Brandon Johnson they opened up a lead that reached double digits when Johnson hit a 3 pointer that made the score 69-57 with 7 minutes to play. Another 3 pointer by Eli Bryant was followed by a triple from Nick DeAngelis and the lead reached 18 points with 6 minutes to go and the Cardinals closed out Oswego at the line.

The Lakers were hurt by the absence of their leading scorer Jamir Ferebee who was injured in the quarterfinal game against Geneseo and didn't suit up for the game. I have no doubt the all conference performer would have made a difference in the game but ultimately I still believe the cardinals would have won the game.

Plattsburgh was led by Jon Patron who put up a big number with 35 points and 13 rebounds. Despite numerous double teams the Cardinals go to guy was simply unstoppable whenever they went to him. The obvious choice for SUNYAC Player of the Year was 15 of 21 from the field, 1 of 2 from downtown and 4 x5 from the line.

Eli Bryant as he has done all year came off the bench to score 12 points, and dish out 6 assists

Brandon Johnson had 11 points 3 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and a block also off the Cardinals bench.

Point guard Zach Coleman  had 7 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 assists

Eric Mack had 6 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 4 blocks and 2 steals as he filled up the stat sheet in 24 minutes off the bench.

Nick DeAngelis added 8 points and Chris Middleton chippesd in with 6 points.


Oswego was led by freshman Liam Sanborn with 15 points, 7 rebounds, and 6 assists.

Josh Ivy had 15 points and 6 rebounds.

Tim Marshall had 13 points and 6 rebounds off the bench.

Tyler Pierre had 11 points and 5 rebounds.

Ian Schupp and Brandan Gartland both added 9 points.


The win marked Plattsburgh's 18th in a row, the 2nd longest current streak in the NCAA for men's basketball, all divisions.

Oswego finishes the season at 14-13 and 10-8 in the conference.


Plattsburgh will face Oneonta , a winner over Brockport,  in the Finals on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM. 



             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2018, 03:32:56 PM
SUNYAC Championship Game

#6 seed Oneonta State  at  #1 seed Plattsburgh State

Quite a testament  to the coaching ability of Oneonta's Coach Cameron Conover to have his team in the YAC championship game for the 2nd season in a row. Last year was his first season as a head coach and he wasted little time taking the Red Dragons to a place they hadn't been in a long time. But the guts of that team, three 1000 point scorers, were gone as Mikey McElroy, Frankie Kelly and Lawrence Coleman all graduated. This year had rebuilding written all over it and the championship game of the playoffs seemed like a far fetched idea. Yet once again Oneonta claimed their playoff spot, the final one up for grabs, on the last day of the regular season, with a win over Potsdam on the road,  Then they upset Cortland on the road in the first round of the playoffs and with their victory over Brockport yesterday, they once again find themselves on the verge of a SUNYAC championship. That's the good news.

The bad news is they have to play Plattsburgh State. It the age old...mentor against the student...as the Oneonta coach will face off against Coach Tom Curle who had Conover on his staff as his top assistant and recruiter for many years. Coach Conover knows the Plattsburgh State players quite well, since he recruited many of them and he has no illusions that his job today will be a tough one.

The Plattsburgh State coach has put together another fine season that will rival some of his other great teams during his tenure at Plattsburgh. last year this team was 2-7 after their first 9 conference games. Since then they are 25-3 against conference teams and are one step away from winning the Championship that they couldn't even qualify for, a year ago at this time, because they failed to make the playoffs.

The oddsmakers have listed Plattsburgh as a 15  point favorite in this one and the Cardinals have been able to contain Oneonta in their 2 previous meetings this year. The Red Dragons have been playing their best basketball of the season in the past 10 days however and have nothing to lose and everything to gain if they win today.  Still Plattsburgh has too many weapons and I think that the Cardinals are focused on the task at hand. I see the Cardinals winning this game by an 88-71 final score.               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2018, 07:02:39 PM
SUNYAC CHAMPIONSHIP


Plattsburgh State 93  Oneonta State 80
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2018, 10:25:42 PM
With Hobart losing today to Skidmore in the Liberty League semifinals and Plattsburgh State winning the SUNYAC Conference Tournament it looks like Plattsburgh will be the top ranked team in the East Region in  the next set of Regional Rankings that we won't be able to see. That should also guarantee that Plattsburgh will host a first round pod of 4 teams next weekend in the NCAA tournament. Hobart may also still host but the Cardinals should be a lock.

I would expect Plattsburgh to climb a few spots in the D3hoops Top 25 as well. Their overall record is 22-4 and their winning streak is now at 19 games.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 24, 2018, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 24, 2018, 10:25:42 PM
With Hobart losing today to Skidmore in the Liberty League semifinals and Plattsburgh State winning the SUNYAC Conference Tournament it looks like Plattsburgh will be the top ranked team in the East Region in  the next set of Regional Rankings that we won't be able to see. That should also guarantee that Plattsburgh will host a first round pod of 4 teams next weekend in the NCAA tournament. Hobart may also still host but the Cardinals should be a lock.

I would expect Plattsburgh to climb a few spots in the D3hoops Top 25 as well. Their overall record is 22-4 and their winning streak is now at 19 games.   

The Pool C discussion on this board doesn't even think Hobart is getting in.  No at-large bids for the East Region...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 25, 2018, 12:08:11 AM
Congratulations, magicman!  Good luck to your Cardinals in the NCAA Tournament!
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2018, 02:24:50 AM
Quote from: spwood on February 24, 2018, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 24, 2018, 10:25:42 PM
With Hobart losing today to Skidmore in the Liberty League semifinals and Plattsburgh State winning the SUNYAC Conference Tournament it looks like Plattsburgh will be the top ranked team in the East Region in  the next set of Regional Rankings that we won't be able to see. That should also guarantee that Plattsburgh will host a first round pod of 4 teams next weekend in the NCAA tournament. Hobart may also still host but the Cardinals should be a lock.

I would expect Plattsburgh to climb a few spots in the D3hoops Top 25 as well. Their overall record is 22-4 and their winning streak is now at 19 games.   


The Pool C discussion on this board doesn't even think Hobart is getting in.  No at-large bids for the East Region...

I'll be surprised if Hobart doesn't get an at large bid. 21-5 is usually too good to be overlooked. And they will be the first team from the East Region at the table. Several sources I use both think that Hobart will get a bid.

Also not sure where you read that Hobart won't get in and no at large bids for the East Region. Here's a quote from a front page story on D3hoops that was posted late Saturday night.

"Freshman Noah Meren continued his coming-out party, leading Skidmore to a 63-60 win over No. 1 seed Hobart in the Liberty League semifinals. Meren scored 16 to go along with 13 rebounds. Edvinas Rupkus also had 16 points for Skidmore (16-10), which has now won five games in a row after a disastrous stretch in which the Thoroughbreds lost eight of 11. Hobart was led by Colin Dougherty, with 11 points and 15 rebounds. Hobart is in strong position for a Pool C bid, but the loss will mean someone else's bubble pops. Skidmore will take on Union tomorrow for the LL AQ."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2018, 02:27:25 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 25, 2018, 12:08:11 AM
Congratulations, magicman!  Good luck to your Cardinals in the NCAA Tournament!
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Thanks AllStar,

Hoping we get to host a pod. If you want to make the trip over to take in the tournament and need a place to stay you're welcome to spend the night at my house.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2018, 09:23:53 AM
SUNYAC Championship    Plattsburgh State 93 Oneonta State 80

I had the Cardinals winning by an 88-71 final score but the Red Dragons kept the score considerably closer for most of the game. It made the contest an exciting one to watch for the over 800 fans that were in attendance.

Oneonta opened the game with scores in 2 of their first 3 possessions while the Cardinals went scoreless in their first two trips. Down 4-0 Jon Patron scored inside and was fouled to get Plattsburgh on the board. It would be the first of many baskets for Patron who was simply unstoppable tonight despite the fact that the defense knew who was going to get the ball and where he was going once he had it. Double teams didn't work. Hands in his face didn't stop him from hitting short jumper after short jumper and if you backed off him just a bit he promptly fired up a three pointer that found the bottom of the net. Yet despite that, the Red Dragons hung with Plattsburgh throughout the entire first half. Numerous ties and lead changes occurred in the first 7 minutes of action until Plattsburgh's Brandon Johnson nailed a three ball to break a 15-15 tie and a minute later Eric Mack hit another trifecta to double their advantage. After Harrison Deegan scored on a layup for Oneonta, Johnson hit another one from downtown to make the score 24-17. It was the first of 6 different occasions that the Cardinals would have a 7 point lead but they could never get past that point as Oneonta kept pace and hit shot after shot to prevent the Cardinals from stretching that advantage to double figures. Near the end of the period the Red Dragons scored on 3 possessions to pull within a point at 37-36. Patron buried one from deep, but Carson Jacobs matched that for Oneonta. Eric Mack scored inside for Plattsburgh and after an Oneonta turnover the Cards just missed an opportunity to go into the break up by 5 points and settled for a 42-39 edge.

Oneonta was playing inspired basketball and despite 16 first half point from the Cardinal's Patron were still only a possession away from tying the game up. The Red Dragons shot 56.3% in the first half hitting 18 of 32 attempts. Plattsburgh was 16x34, good for 47.1% and Patron was 6x7 from the field. Dwayne Freeman with 11 points and Harrison Deegan with 10 points were the main weapons for Oneonta. Together they were 10x15 from the field and constantly got inside on drives to the basket for layups. In fact, Deegan scored early in the 2nd half on a drive to the hoop, right after Kevin Mackin tied the game at 42 just after the start of the final period. Deegan's basket gave Oneonta its first lead since the 15:27 mark of the first period. It then turned into the Jon Patron show as he scored 17 of the next 21 points for Plattsburgh that included 4 layups, 3 free throws and 2 three pointers. And still the Red Dragons wouldn't go away. Oneonta got contributions from Freeman, Ian Schultz, Carson Jacobs, and Sean Nolan, making 6 different players that scored in the first 4 minutes of the half. Then freshman Joseph Bull entered the game and scored the next 8 points for Oneonta. Harrison Deegan then ended the Bull run with a layup for the Red Dragons, and with 13 minutes to play the score was 63-63. The back and forth play continued over the next 4 minutes but with the Cardinals ahead 70-69 Plattsburgh's Ian Howard grabbed an offensive rebound and scored and then scored again a minute later to put the Cards up 74-70. Howard then got a rebound on the other end and Eli Bryant hit one from downtown. After another defensive rebound by Howard, he grabbed a missed Cardinal attempt at the other end and was fouled. He made both free throws and then got another rebound off an Oneonta miss that led to another Jon Patron layup. That put Plattsburgh up by an 81-70 score with 6:39 left and was the definitive move that led to the Cardinal victory. Oneonta couldn't overcome that deficit as the lead hovered between 7 and 13 points the rest of the way. Howard had 4 offensive boards, 7 defensive boards and 8 points in a 7 minute stretch that was instrumental in the Cardinal victory.

Jon Patron put up 35 points on Friday night against Oswego and I thought he had given us his best effort of the year, Saturday he was in another zone as he scored a career high 41 points. He also had 9 rebounds and 2 steals. He was 16x23 from the field, 3x4 from long distance and 6x7 from the line. He left no doubt who the MVP of the SUNYAC tournament was. D3hoops had this to say about Patron's performance:

"Some bubble team should send Jonathan Patron a thank you card for preserving its NCAA Tournament bid. The junior forward dropped 41 points on SUNY Oneonta, and Plattsburgh State defeated the Red Dragons 93-80 for the SUNYAC's automatic bid. Patron shot 16-for-23 from the field and 6-for-7 from the foul line, in addition to grabbing nine rebounds for the Cardinals. Plattsburgh State was in good shape to make the NCAA Tournament, even without the automatic qualifying bid."

Ian Howard had a double-double of 15 points and a game high 16 rebounds to go with 3 assists and 1 block. He is the hardest working guy on the floor most nights.

Eric Mack once again filled up the stat sheet with 14 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, a steal and a pair of blocks in just 19 minutes of court time.

Brandon Johnson also came off the bench with 10 points, 4 boards, and 2 assists.

Eli Bryant scored  5 points and had 4 assists.

Plattsburgh outrebounded Oneonta 44 to 27 and that was a key to the game as the Red Dragons had controlled the boards in their first two playoff games against Cortland and Brockport. The Cardinals had 9 turnovers to 11 for Oneonta. Both teams ended up shooting a little over 50% for the game and they both ended up with 8 three pointers.

Oneonta was led by Dwayne Freeman with 19 points and 4 assists. It was his last collegiate game as he is a senior and 1 of only 2 players that the Red Dragons will lose off this years team.

Harrison Deegan had 15 points to complete an excellent playoff run. Only a sophomore Deegan will be back and will only get better over the next two years.

Joseph Bull had 12 points and a team high 8 rebounds off the bench as he covered a lot of minutes for Ian Schultz who suffered an injury in the first half, just 4 minutes into the game. Bull is just a freshman and he has plenty of game. He will be a load to handle in the next 3 years.

Carson Jacobs added 11 points and 7 boards and was 3 x5 from long distance. Jacobs is only a sophomore so he will give the Red Dragons another solid scoring option next year.

2 more sophomores Kevin Mackin and Ian Schultz both had 8 points. Mackin added 3 rebounds and a steal while Schultz had 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a block. Schultz did return from his first half injury and played 18 minutes in the 2nd half.

Sean Nolan another freshman added 5 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

The Red Dragons appear to be loaded for the next few years with a ton of young talent. They will be looking to make the SUNYAC Championship game for the third season in a row.

Oneonta completes their season with a 14-14 overall record, and finished as the #6 seed in the YAC. I think they will be considerably  higher up the ladder next year.

Plattsburgh improves to 22-4 and stretches their winning streak to 19 straight games. With #1  ranked Whitman losing on Saturday to Whitworth the Cardinals now have the longest current winning streak in all of men's basketball, all divisions.

Plattsburgh will now await the NCAA selection show on Monday to see if they will host or be sent somewhere. I'm prettty sure as SUNYAC Champions they will get to host a pod of 4 teams. it wouldn't surprise me to see Middlebury, Johnson and Wales, New England College or Bridgewater State as possibilities. Nazareth and the NEAC winner could also end up here.

The All SUNYAC Tpurnament Team was comprised of:

 

Player                   School
Hamed Shamseldin   Brockport
Harrison Deegan   Oneonta
Dwayne Freeman   Oneonta
Ian Howard           Plattsburgh
Eric Mack                   Plattsburgh
Jonathan Patron    Plattsburgh  Most Valuable Player


The SUNYAC also recognizes the men's basketball player with the highest grade point average in awarding the Elite 20 award. This year's winner is Oswego's Brandon Gartland.

Congratulations to all the players in the SUNYAC on another outstanding season. I hope next year is even better.                                 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 25, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Quote from: spwood on February 24, 2018, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 24, 2018, 10:25:42 PM


The Pool C discussion on this board doesn't even think Hobart is getting in.  No at-large bids for the East Region...
I'll be surprised if Hobart doesn't get an at large bid. 21-5 is usually too good to be overlooked. And they will be the first team from the East Region at the table. Several sources I use both think that Hobart will get a bid.

Also not sure where you read that Hobart won't get in and no at large bids for the East Region. Here's a quote from a front page story on D3hoops that was posted late Saturday night.

Got it here....  Multi-Region topic discussion.

Quote from: Titan Q on February 25, 2018, 09:01:00 AM
My Sunday morning view.  I moved Springfield into spot #21, over Salem State, because I think Springfield will be ranked higher in the final NE ranking.


Projected In...

1. Williams (NE/NESCAC): .800 (20-5)/.595/7-4   vs Wesleyan, Sun
2. Hamilton (NE/NESCAC): .846 (22-4)/.573/6-3  done
3. UW-Platteville (CE/WIAC: .833 (20-4)/.577/4-1   done
4. Whitman (WE/NWC): .962 (25-1)/.515/4-1 done
5. Swarthmore (MA/CC): .815 (22-5)/.542/3-4   done
6. St. John's (WE/MIAC): .880 (22-3)/.524/3-2  done
7. Middlebury (NE/NESCAC): .760 (19-6).590/4-6   done
8. Wooster (GL/NCAC): .778 (21-6)/.565/4-3  done
9. Marietta (GL/OAC): .778 (21-6)/.564/4-5   done
10. New Jersey City (AT/NJAC): .731 (19-7)/.567/6-4   done
11. Emory (SO/UAA): .840 (21-4)/.530/4-2  done
12. Christopher Newport (MA/CAC): .777 (21-6)/.546/3-2   done
13. UW-Oshkosh (CE/WIAC): .741 (20-7)/.554/2-4   done
14. St. Olaf (WE/MIAC): .731 (19-7)/.544/3-2   done
15. Albright (MA/Commonwealth): .769 (20-6)/.544/3-2   done
16. Franklin and Marshall (MA/CC): .769 (20-6)/.536/3-4   done
17. LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2   done
18. North Central (CE/CCIW): .692 (18-8)/.563/4-5   done
19. Illinois Wesleyan (CE/CCIW): .731 (19-7)/.550/3-6   done
20. Augsburg (WE/MIAC): .741 (20-7)/.539/4-3   @ Bethel, Sun - with a win today, moves to Pool A
21. Springfield (NE/NEWMAC): .692 (18-8)/.558/4-2  done

Left at the table...
* Amherst (NE/NESCAC): .680 (17-8)/.570/4-6
* UW-River Falls (CE/WIAC): .692 (18-8)/.586/3-6   @ UW-Stevens Point, Sun
* Hobart (East/LL): .808 (21-5)/.526/1-2  done
* Loras (WE/IIAC): .731 (19-7)/.542/2-3   done
* Gwynedd Mercy (AT/CSAC): .769 (20-6)/.519/2-3  done
* Ohio Wesleyan (GL/NCAC): .679 (19-9)/.564/3-5  done
* Juniata (MA/LAND)  done
* Texas-Dallas (SO/ASC)  done
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
I spotted Titan Q's list earlier today and figured that was where you got your info.  I think he's wrong and Hobart gets in.

I believe that D3hoops will have a show tonight on Hoopsville where they do a projected 64 team field and where they will go. That's usually fairly accurate.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 25, 2018, 02:02:39 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
I spotted Titan Q's list earlier today and figured that was where you got your info.  I think he's wrong and Hobart gets in.

I believe that D3hoops will have a show tonight on Hoopsville where they do a projected 64 team field and where they will go. That's usually fairly accurate.

My question looking at his list, though, is which team would Hobart replace?  SOS and record against ranked teams doesn't seem to compare well with the teams he has listed getting in.  Unless Win % is weighted heavily...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 25, 2018, 07:04:00 PM
Congrats to Magicman and his Cards..  Going from the " outhouse" ( no playoffs last year), to the penthouse ( reg season and conference champ) in 1 year is no small task.   Here's to hoping that they make it Salem!

Go CARDS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 25, 2018, 07:08:34 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2018, 02:27:25 AM
Quote from: AllStar on February 25, 2018, 12:08:11 AM
Congratulations, magicman!  Good luck to your Cardinals in the NCAA Tournament!
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Thanks AllStar,

Hoping we get to host a pod. If you want to make the trip over to take in the tournament and need a place to stay you're welcome to spend the night at my house.

Wow, All Star.  That's a pretty serious offer from the Magic 1.  I've been to Plattsburgh at least 8 times and not once have I been invited to the Magic castle.  I've been in his Magic chariot a few times and even his magic music shop. But never his castle.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 26, 2018, 01:29:19 PM
Raise your hand if you had Brockport getting in..... The East Committee must have dropped Hobart to third in the final regional ranking.  Anyone have the comparison of Hobart and Brockport handy?  I'm at work and can't look it up right now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 26, 2018, 02:56:09 PM
Have a fun run in the NCAA's, magicman!  Here are the two brackets that feature SUNYAC teams:
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2018, 03:44:55 PM
No surprise as D3hoops #21 Plattsburgh State is chosen to host a first round pod of 4 teams in the NCAA tournament. The Cardinals will play D3hoops #22 Nichols State, from Dudley Massachusetts, winner of the Commonwealth Coast Conference 's automatic bid. Nichols was 25-3 this year and is a repeat entry into the NCAA as they were in the tournament last year.  They beat a favored Neumann team in the first round and then lost to conference foe, Endicott, who they were playing for the 4th time, (twice in the regular season, once in the conference playoffs and then in the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament.)

Nichols has a big time scorer on their team, Marcos Echevarria and 4 other guys that all average double figures. They average over 91 ppg and give up 76 ppg. There should be plenty of points scored in this matchup.

The big surprise of the day and a pleasant one, was Brockport State getting an at large bid into the tournament and the Hobart Statesmen getting left at home. Apparently the national committee that awards the at large bids thought that Brockport had enough things in its favor to put them over Hobart. Brockport had a slightly higher SOS that Hobart, .529 to .524, and Hobart also had a 1-2 record against regionally ranked opponents, while the Golden Eagles were 3-3 in that category. I'm sure they also felt the head to head win of Brockport over Hobart had considerable merit.

Happy to see two YAC teams dancing. Didn't anticipate that happening after Oneonta Bulled its way into the championship game. (And yes that was a play on words there. :D)

Glad to see the Golden Eagles get another chance and I think they can win that first round game against MIT. The Brockport website will now have to redo their last write-up... This was the headline:   "SPECTACULAR SEASON ENDS WITH SEMI-FINAL LOSS" (to Oneonta).

Plattsburgh State's Tom Curle is in his 15th season as the Cardinals' head coach and this is his 8th trip to the NCAA tournament in that time. That's the best record in the East Region of any current coach. It's his 5th SUNYAC title in that time as well.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2018, 04:50:25 PM

It's unfair to Plattsburgh and to Nichols.  Plattsburgh should be playing New England College.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 26, 2018, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2018, 04:50:25 PM

It's unfair to Plattsburgh and to Nichols.  Plattsburgh should be playing New England College.

I wondered about this as well.  Wouldn't this have made a better (potential) second round game?

As for Brockport and Hobart, how does the regional ranking work?  Is there a committee dedicated to the East region that ranks the teams.  If so, it would seem they saw the writing on the wall with Hobart's bid and decided to put Brockport on the table first?  They both went 0-1 last week, right?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
Quote from: spwood on February 26, 2018, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2018, 04:50:25 PM

It's unfair to Plattsburgh and to Nichols.  Plattsburgh should be playing New England College.

I wondered about this as well.  Wouldn't this have made a better (potential) second round game?

As for Brockport and Hobart, how does the regional ranking work?  Is there a committee dedicated to the East region that ranks the teams.  If so, it would seem they saw the writing on the wall with Hobart's bid and decided to put Brockport on the table first?  They both went 0-1 last week, right?

They don't get to consider "liklihood of being selected" as part of that ranking criteria.  What I believe happened is that head-to-head, Brockport has the better resume (and a win over Hobart), however, they haven't been next to each other in the rankings before this week (Plattsburgh was in between), so they weren't ever compared to each other.  Once Plattsburgh jumped to #1, then the committee looked at both schools and realized Brockport needed to be ahead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
spwood,

I sent you a PM explaining what probably happened concerning Hobart and Brockport.  Didn't you get it?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 26, 2018, 08:45:46 PM
I did, thank you and I just responded!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 27, 2018, 12:18:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 26, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
spwood,

I sent you a PM explaining what probably happened concerning Hobart and Brockport.  Didn't you get it?

Would u send it to me, also? I don't understand why they were reversed from the 3rd regional ranking when all that changed was that each lost a conference playoff game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2018, 02:28:33 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2018, 12:18:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 26, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
spwood,

I sent you a PM explaining what probably happened concerning Hobart and Brockport.  Didn't you get it?

Would u send it to me, also? I don't understand why they were reversed from the 3rd regional ranking when all that changed was that each lost a conference playoff game.

Sending you a reply in the next few minutes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2018, 03:51:36 AM
D3hoops Top 25 final regular season poll was released earlier on Monday night and the Plattsburgh State Cardinals riding their 19 game winning streak have moved up to #16 in the poll. Plattsburgh received 197 votes an increase of 105 over last week's 92.

Hobart slid from #28 with 59 votes to #33 with 13 votes.

No other team in the East Region got any votes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2018, 11:51:47 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 27, 2018, 02:28:33 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 27, 2018, 12:18:52 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 26, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
spwood,

I sent you a PM explaining what probably happened concerning Hobart and Brockport.  Didn't you get it?

Would u send it to me, also? I don't understand why they were reversed from the 3rd regional ranking when all that changed was that each lost a conference playoff game.

Sending you a reply in the next few minutes.

Well if we are sharing the info... please send it to me as well. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
The SUNYAC office has announce the season ending awards for Men's Basketball and there weren't any surprises.

CONGRATULATIONS to all the fine student athletes singled out for these awards. I got to meet many of them throughout the year and tried to make it a point to spend time with the opposing teams as they visited Plattsburgh and Memorial Hall. I'll miss the graduating seniors and look forward to seeing once again, the players I met this year, that will be coming back. To all the coaches who took a few minutes to talk with me and thank me for my devotion to the SUNYAC Board and D3 basketball in general, I hope we can continue to have conversations in the future. Best of luck to every one next season and please join me in rooting for the Cardinals and Golden Eagles in the NCAA Tournament

Here's the info from the SUNYAC website:
     
CORTLAND, NY -  The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) is excited to announce the 2018 men's basketball All-Conference teams as well as Player, Rookie and Coach of the Year. These awards were nominated and voted on by conference coaches.

Player of the Year - Jonathan Patron, Plattsburgh

Patron, a junior forward from Huntington was an offensive force for Plattsburgh this year where he averaged 23.7 points per game overall. With an average of 10.4 rebounds per game Patron averaged a double-double this season. In addition he leads the conference in overall points per game and rebounds per game. Patron also averaged 26.4 minutes per game which is the most on the team. His presence on the court was important at each point this season especially during the team's 19-game winning streak. In the SUNYAC finals, his 41 points helped lead his team to the conference title and he was named the Tournament MVP. Patron was named first team All-Conference for all his efforts this season.

Rookie of the Year - Sheldon Adams, Buffalo State

Adams, a Rochester native started off his college career on a great note averaging 14.5 points per game overall which is the second highest on the team. Adams had a breakout game against Cortland in early February where he led the team with 29 points including seven three-pointers. Adams totaled 35 steals and 12 blocks this season for the Bengals.

Coach of the Year - Tom Curle, Plattsburgh

In his 15th season as head coach of the Cardinals he led his team to their seventh overall SUNYAC title and their first since 2010 (fifth under Curle). In the 15 seasons since his hiring, the Cardinals have enjoyed many unprecedented successes in school history including five SUNYAC titles. He has been the all time winningest Cardinals' coach in both wins and winning, and that continues to increase after all the success he had during the 2017-2018 season. Curle's leadership this season found three of his players on SUNYAC All-Conference Teams.

2018 SUNYAC Men's Basketball All-Conference Teams
           
First Team           
Name                   School         Year      Hometown
Hamed Shamseldin   Brockport          Sr.   Lawrence, N.Y.
Justin Summers           Brockport          So.   Brooklyn, N.Y.
James Morales           Cortland          Sr.   Mount Kisco, N.Y.
Eli Bryant                   Plattsburgh       Sr.   Staten Island, N.Y.
Jonathan Patron           Plattsburgh       Jr.   Huntington, N.Y.

Second Team           
Name               School          Year    Hometown
Mike Henry       Buffalo State   Sr.   Syracuse, N.Y.
Justin Cooper       Cortland   Jr.   Pine Plains, N.Y.
Quinn Carey       Geneseo   Jr.   Ponte Vedra, Fla.
Tommy Eastman    Geneseo   So.   Honeoye Falls, N.Y.
Jamir Ferebee       Oswego     Sr.   Staten Island, N.Y.

Third Team           
Name           School   Year     Hometown
Zach Lydon   Cortland     Jr.   Elizaville, N.Y.
Ian Helps           Fredonia     Sr.   Bronx, N.Y.
Tyler Pierre   Oswego     Jr.   Deer Park, N.Y.
Eric Mack            Plattsburgh  Sr.   Long Island, N.Y.
Dante Langley   Potsdam     Jr.    Schuylerville, N.Y.

Player of the Year   Jonathan Patron   Plattsburgh
Rookie of the Year   Sheldon Adams    Buffalo State
Coach of the Year   Tom Curle            Plattsburgh


Here's the quote from my predictions back on February 20th. Just about every selection from the SUNYAC office was identical to the one I made earlier. I had Eric Mack on the 2nd team and Quinn Carey on the 3rd team which was reversed. That was probably because I'm slightly biased toward my Cardinal player but I also got to watch his magic, far more than anyone else voting for these awards. It's not often you see a 6'3" guy lead a conference in blocked shots.  Also had Kevin Mackin on the 3rd team instead of Tyler Pierre who I had on the Honorable Mention list but after watching him last weekend I could easily place him where he is.

I correctly picked the 3 individual awards but they were really no-brainers. Jon Patron, Sheldon Adams and Coach Curle were clearly the only correct choices for those.

 

Quote from: magicman on February 20, 2018, 03:10:26 AM
Time to announce the SUNYAC All Conference performers that I have on my lists.  Always tough decisions and I list more guys than the conference does because I can. All of the players listed below had great seasons and were enjoyable to watch. And I can guarantee you that nobody watched more than I did.  ;D

SUNYAC Player of the Year    Jon Patron            Junior Forward       Plattsburgh State     

Rookie of the Year                Sheldon Adams     Freshman Guard    Buffalo State

Coach of the Year                 Tom Curle            15th Season          Plattsburgh State

First Team All Conference

Jon Patron                Junior            F      Plattsburgh State

Justin Summers        Sophomore     F      Brockport State

Hamed Shamseldin   Senior            G      Brockport State

Eli Bryant                 Senior            G      Plattsburgh State

James Morales          Senior            G      Cortland State


2nd Team All Conference

Mike Henry               Senior             G     Buffalo State

Justin Cooper           Junior              G     Cortland State

Jamir Ferebee          Senior              G    Oswego State

Tommy Eastman      Sophomore       F     Geneseo State

Eric Mack                Senior               F    Plattsburgh State


3rd Team All Conference

Quinn Carey           Junior                G    Geneseo State

Kevin Mackin          Sophomore        G    Oneonta State

Dante Langley        Junior                G/F Potsdam State 

Ian Helps               Senior                F    Fredonia State

Zach Lydon            Junior                 F   Cortland State


Honorable Mention

Tyler Collins                 Junior           G   Brockport State

Sir.Quinton Campbell   Sophomore    F    Buffalo State

Nicky Bonura              Junior             G   Cortland State

Kay Jackson                5th Year         G   Fredonia State

Zack Panebianco         Junior             G   Geneseo State

Kevin Crockett            Senior             G   Geneseo State

Dylan Balducci            Senior             G   New Paltz State

Brandon Guest            Senior             F  New Paltz State

Ian Schultz                 Sophomore     F   Oneonta State

Dwayne Freeman         Senior           G   Oneonta State

Tyler Pierre                 Junior            C   Oswego State

Josh Ivey                    Senior            F   Oswego State

Liam Sanborn              Freshman      G   Oswego State

Chris Middleton            Junior           G/F Plattsburgh State

Zac Johnson                Senior            G  Plattsburgh State

Ian Howard                 Junior             F  Plattsburgh State

Brandon Johnson        Junior             G  Plattsburgh State

Danny Delsol-Lowry     Sophomore    G   Potsdam State

Nosa Onabor               Junior            G Potsdam State
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2018, 03:10:12 PM
It's time to go Dancing.


Nichols College at Plattsburgh State  7:30 PM

The Cardinals will have their hands full with the high scoring Bisons who boast 5 starters in double figures. The Commonwealth Coast Conference Champions won the automatic bid to the Dance for the 2nd straight year and for the 2nd straight year are considered underdogs in their first round game. Last year they were sent to Neumann College and won a 96-93 decision over the hosts.

They are led by junior guard, Marcos Echevarria (22.2 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 4.8 apg, 2.0 spg, 115 3PTM) who is the CCC Player of the Year . Hie is a scoring machine.

Sophomore guard, DeAnte Bruton (18.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.6 apg, 2.1 spg) is close behind him as a scoring threat and was chosen for the CCC All Conference  First Team.

Senior guard, Daequon Antoine (14.6 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.6 apg, 1.8 spg, 81 3PTM) made the CCC All Conference Third Team.

Sophomore guard, Tyler Dion (11.5 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 2.4 apg, 43.6% 3FG%, 85.3 FT%) is another 3 point shooting threat and has the best long distance shooting percentage on the team.

Sophomore forward  6'8" Jerome Cunningham (10.9 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.2 bpg, 55.9% FG%) was also a CCC All Conference Third Team selection.

The bench is short but they can bring in another 6'8" big man and another guard that average around 18 minutes per game.

The team averagess 91 ppg and they give up 76 ppg.

The Cardinals will counter with SUNYAC Player of the Year Junior forward, Jon Patron. Patron is averaging 23.7 ppg and 10.4 rpg and the Cardinals haven't lost this year with Patron on the court. He is their go to guy and makes everyone around him better.

Eli Bryant is a senior guard who started last year but comes off the bench this year, to provide a spark that usually helps the Cardinals get some separation from their opponents. He was the 2nd leading scorer in the conference with a 19.1 ppg average.

Eric Mack is a 6'3" senior with exceptional hops, who was also chosen to the SUNYAC All Conference 3rd team. In addition to his 11.2 ppg and 5.6 rpg, he led the conference in blocked shots.

Plattsburgh has a deep team and will come at you with a 10 man rotation that can feature a host of 3 point shooters and a solid team defense. That could well be the key in today's game...slowing the Nichols guards down and limiting their shots by controlling the boards....something that Plattsburgh has done well all season long. Kris Middleton, a 6"7"junior guard and Zach Coleman a 6'2" senior guard will provide excellent perimeter defense and help guard the 3 point line. 6'3" junior, Ian Howard, is a rebounding machine and along with the instant offense of 5'10" junior guard Brandon Johnson and his quickness, this pair will help run the up tempo style that the Cardinals like to play. 

The oddsmakers have favored the Cardinals in this game by a 7 point margin. I'm hoping we can win it by a bit more. I'll take the Cardinals to win by a 92-81 final score.



Brockport  vs  MIT    at Johns Hopkins  in Baltimore Maryland  5:30 PM

The Golden Eagles are listed as 4 point underdogs in this game but I think they can come away with the W here. The Engineers came in 2nd in their conference during the regular season but won the automatic bid by winning their conference tournament. I've seen them play online on several occasions and I think that Brockport might match up well against them. They did lose their best player to a season ending injury back on January 31st and they went 5-3 without him. If Brockport can play this game dictating the tempo I think they will win it. I'll take Hamed Shamseldin and Justin Summers to bounce back from that loss to Oneonta in the YAC tournament  and win this one by a 78-73 final score. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 02, 2018, 04:42:37 PM
Here's to wishing both the cards and Golden eagles the best of luck as they embark upon the 2018 dance to day!  I imagine that the magic 1 is already at Memorial hall with his red hat on, back row, directly behind coach Curles seat (give or take 6 inches left or right. ) Everyone knows that that's his seat!!   I gotta believe that 1 of these teams will make it to Salem.  Ill be watching and cheering from my computer!

Go CARDS

Go GOLDEN EAGLES

Go SUNYAC
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2018, 11:05:22 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats Nichols College 103-86.


Union College upsets New Jersey City by a 76-72 final score


Plattsburgh State will play Union  on Saturday evening at 7:00 PM at Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall.


Brockport State loses to MIT by a final score of 81-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 03, 2018, 12:35:35 AM
Congratulations to magicman's Cardinals for advancing!
(https://i.imgur.com/IGRkQnQ.png)
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2018, 05:47:30 PM
NCAA Tournament 2nd Round Game

Union College at #16 Plattsburgh State  7:00 PM  Memorial Hall

The two teams from New York and the East Region were the survivors after the opening round of the Big Dance. Union came from 14 points down early in the 2nd half to prevent New Jersey City from pulling away and turning the game into a laugher. The scrappy Dutchmen slowly inched their way back into contention and a 12-0 run got them within a single possession at 48-46 with 16 minutes to play. The Gothic Knights scored on back to back possessions to make it 52-46 but Union came back with another 11-4 spurt to finally grab their first lead of the night with 11:43 left on the clock. From there it was a back and forth affair with numerous lead changes until Union, down 63-62, scored 8 straight points to go up 70-63 with 3:49 to go. Both teams had some shaky moments down the stretch with turnovers, missed free throws, and missed shots with neither team making a field goal in the final 2:25 of the game. Union's guard  Kevin Weckworth hit 6 of 8 from the line to close out the game for the Dutchmen.

Plattsburgh State- Nichols had a spirited first half with the Cardinals opening up 7, 8, and 9 point leads on several occasions but the Bison were always able to come back and keep things close. Down by 8 points as the clock wound down in the first period, Nichols got a 3 pointer from DeAnte Bruton to cut the gap to 5 points at the break. The Cardinals took control of this game quickly in the 2nd half as they opened the period with a 9-0 run capped by a 3 pointer from Jon Patron and a layup from Ian Howard to go up 60-46. That was the impetus that put the Cardinals in their comfort zone and they were never really threatened the rest of the way as the lead hovered between 8 and 20 points.

Today's matchup has the Cardinals favored by 9 points. Union is a team that doesn't give up and they have already pulled off some big upsets this year including 2 wins over Hobart who was the top team in the East Region for most of the year. They also have another 2 wins over Skidmore, who was the preseason favorite to win the Liberty League. Somebody forgot to tell the Dutchmen that fact. Skidmore beat Plattsburgh State pretty handily, earlier this season in November, by an 88-62 score. The Cardinals were without main weapon Jon Patron in that game so the result is somewhat misleading.

Plattsburgh is playing their best basketball of the season right now and this team is deep, talented and can score in bunches. They have now won 20 games in a row which is a program record. They are more athletic than Union and will try and dictate the tempo and run the floor. They present problems defensively for Union and hope to open up a lead early to take the Dutchmen out of their comfort zone.

I think the Cardinals will be too much too handle and see them winning this game by an 89-74 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 03, 2018, 11:59:13 PM
A Sweet 16 for the Cardinals.  Congratulations!
(https://i.imgur.com/Q6mGOzK.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2018, 01:40:59 AM
NCAA 2nd Round Final Score

Plattsburgh State 87   Union College 75


I predicted the final score of this game would be an 89-74 Plattsburgh win. The Cardinals took a shot clock violation on their last possession rather than try and score as they ran the game clock down to 4 seconds. Otherwise they probably would have hit the 89 points I called for. Union's last basket was a long 3 pointer with 35 seconds to go, giving them 75 points instead of 74. So I missed a perfect score by 3 points but I'm real happy with the win, that sends the Cardinals on to the Sweet 16.

Now hoping they don't make the sectional... the NESCAC Invitational, like they've done so many other years (when we've been sent  to Amherst) and send us to Hamilton. We are the only 1st round host in our quadrant that made the Sweet 16. The other host teams...Wesleyan, Cabrini, and York (Pa) all lost. We are the #1 ranked team in the East Region and are the only team left in our quadrant that is the #1 ranked team in the region they are in. Hamilton is 4th in the Northeast Region and Springfield is 6th.  Swarthmore is 3rd in the Middle Atlantic Region. We have the current longest winning streak in Men's basketball, all divisions, that now stands at 21 straight games. Finally no one left in our quadrant has a better record than we do. Hamilton and us are both 24-4. Oh and one more thing...the other 3 teams are all within 500 miles of Plattsburgh. Swarthmore is 402 miles, Hamilton is 195 miles and Springfield is 245 miles. So the geography doesn't exclude us.
I hope the NCAA does the RIGHT thing and gives Plattsburgh the Sectional they so rightly deserve.   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 04, 2018, 02:01:54 AM
Congrats to the Cards.  Those dancing shoes look real good on y'all.  Hopefully the Magic 1 will be a great host next weekend !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 04, 2018, 08:51:22 AM
Magicman, as always, solid analysis and logic.  Oh yes, great game by your team last night! 
Hope the NCAA gives your team the sectional.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2018, 11:57:54 AM
Hamilton has a 5,000 seat facility. 

Total Miles 655 at Hamilton, 696 at Springfield, 852 at Plattsburgh, 931 at Swarthmore. 

Hamilton plays in the NESCAC which is the #7 conference, SUNYAC is #23. 

Hamilton is ranked 27 in Massey,  Swarthmore 31, Plattsburgh 42, Springfield 101. 

NCAA is cheap, BTW all 4 colleges are on break starting 3/9  ???

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on March 04, 2018, 12:13:26 PM
Ramapo has announced it's hosting its regional.  No word from anyone else yet.....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on March 04, 2018, 12:40:35 PM
On the updated men's brackets.....Magicman....your team is going to PA!  Swarthmore, just outside Philly in the high cost area will host!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 04, 2018, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: amh63 on March 04, 2018, 12:40:35 PM
On the updated men's brackets.....Magicman....your team is going to PA!  Swarthmore, just outside Philly in the high cost area will host!

How are they not hosting? No bid put in? Distance? That's suprising, at least to me.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 01:29:07 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 04, 2018, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: amh63 on March 04, 2018, 12:40:35 PM
On the updated men's brackets.....Magicman....your team is going to PA!  Swarthmore, just outside Philly in the high cost area will host!

How are they not hosting? No bid put in? Distance? That's suprising, at least to me.

We were told Swarthmore is better by the ranking criteria, so they got the opportunity.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2018, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: amh63 on March 04, 2018, 12:40:35 PM
On the updated men's brackets.....Magicman....your team is going to PA!  Swarthmore, just outside Philly in the high cost area will host!

Thanks amh63.

I have been looking for info on where the sectional is going to be. The NCAA sucks. We should have been the host. Swarthmore didn't even win their conference tournament. The NCAA gives a sectional to an at large team that is ranked 3rd in their region over Plattsburgh,  SUNYAC regular season champs, SUNYAC conference tournament champs, #1 ranked team in their region, the best record among the 4 teams(tied with Hamilton) and the only host team in the quadrant that won their pod.

bear,

So much for the cheap NCAA (which we know how cheap they can be from past years) sending the 3 teams to Swarthmore which is the highest total mileage.

I really think those idiots from the NCAA are Trump supporters and they are screwing the New York teams because New York didn't go his way in the election.  ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 01:43:33 PM

22-4, .523 was just not enough to overcome 22-5, .542, I guess.

Swat's gym is fine, not great, but fine - the facilities outside the gym - parking, lobby, bathrooms, etc - not so great.

I'd say, if you're coming, book a room in the hotel right next to campus so you can be sure to have parking.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 01:43:33 PM

22-4, .523 was just not enough to overcome 22-5, .542, I guess.

Swat's gym is fine, not great, but fine - the facilities outside the gym - parking, lobby, bathrooms, etc - not so great.

I'd say, if you're coming, book a room in the hotel right next to campus so you can be sure to have parking.

Thanks Ryan,

I was prepared to go to Hamilton if they got to host and I would have went to Springfield but figured they had no chance. The only place I didn't want to go was Swarthmore. And so I won't be making that trip. Really upset that we didn't get it or at least make it more centrally located and give it to Hamilton. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 04, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
Save your money for Salem.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2018, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 04, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
Save your money for Salem.

I sure hope you're right Greek, because I'm going there if the Cardinals are there. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 02:50:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 01:43:33 PM

22-4, .523 was just not enough to overcome 22-5, .542, I guess.

Swat's gym is fine, not great, but fine - the facilities outside the gym - parking, lobby, bathrooms, etc - not so great.

I'd say, if you're coming, book a room in the hotel right next to campus so you can be sure to have parking.

Thanks Ryan,

I was prepared to go to Hamilton if they got to host and I would have went to Springfield but figured they had no chance. The only place I didn't want to go was Swarthmore. And so I won't be making that trip. Really upset that we didn't get it or at least make it more centrally located and give it to Hamilton.

Centrally located is only an issue if the extremes are 500 miles apart.  Swat to Plattsburgh or the other way around was going to be a long drive either way.  They felt Swat deserved it and I'm not complaining.  I can there in under an hour from my house!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2018, 04:44:49 PM
Wondering if Plattsburgh women having to host hockey next weekend may be a reason for the 412 mile road trip?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on March 04, 2018, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 04, 2018, 04:44:49 PM
Wondering if Plattsburgh women having to host hockey next weekend may be a reason for the 412 mile road trip?

No.  This weekend Plattsburgh hosted the basketball regional, women's hockey conference championship game, and three high school sectional championship games.  Besides, the basketball team and the hockey teams play in separate buildings.  Would not have been a challenge to host both.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 05:39:39 PM
Quote from: spwood on March 04, 2018, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 04, 2018, 04:44:49 PM
Wondering if Plattsburgh women having to host hockey next weekend may be a reason for the 412 mile road trip?

No.  This weekend Plattsburgh hosted the basketball regional, women's hockey conference championship game, and three high school sectional championship games.  Besides, the basketball team and the hockey teams play in separate buildings.  Would not have been a challenge to host both.

Some years the committee won't send a sectional some place that's already hosting other events.  They don't want to run the risk of the hosts being short staffed - don't know if that's part of things this year or not, but it is sometimes a consideration.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on March 04, 2018, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 05:39:39 PM
Quote from: spwood on March 04, 2018, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 04, 2018, 04:44:49 PM
Wondering if Plattsburgh women having to host hockey next weekend may be a reason for the 412 mile road trip?

No.  This weekend Plattsburgh hosted the basketball regional, women's hockey conference championship game, and three high school sectional championship games.  Besides, the basketball team and the hockey teams play in separate buildings.  Would not have been a challenge to host both.

Some years the committee won't send a sectional some place that's already hosting other events.  They don't want to run the risk of the hosts being short staffed - don't know if that's part of things this year or not, but it is sometimes a consideration.

As of right now, Plattsburgh isn't hosting anything else.  The women's hockey team is line to host a QF game next week, but the bracket isn't announced until tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 04, 2018, 10:02:55 PM
Hosts were announced...here's how it looks:
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2018, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 04, 2018, 05:39:39 PM
Quote from: spwood on March 04, 2018, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: thebear on March 04, 2018, 04:44:49 PM
Wondering if Plattsburgh women having to host hockey next weekend may be a reason for the 412 mile road trip?

No.  This weekend Plattsburgh hosted the basketball regional, women's hockey conference championship game, and three high school sectional championship games.  Besides, the basketball team and the hockey teams play in separate buildings.  Would not have been a challenge to host both.

Some years the committee won't send a sectional some place that's already hosting other events.  They don't want to run the risk of the hosts being short staffed - don't know if that's part of things this year or not, but it is sometimes a consideration.

Not something I believe is actually true. I have not heard a committee member ever utter that to me. Now, they will not send it if the facility is being used for something else (makes it hard on schools to black out dates, honestly, which is income lost)... and they won't send if men and women can both host... but I think this is a theory that hasn't necessary held up. SCHOOLs have done this in the past. They have turned it down because they are concerned (and usually scrambled to change course at the last moment which is too late), but not the committee.

As for Plattsburgh not hosting over Swarthmore... the criteria gives this to Swarthmore over Platt. I saw that as an easy decision between the two. FYI - winning your conference has NOTHING to do with this process and we shouldn't reference it. If that was the case, should Southern Vermont have hosted and not traveled to Wesleyan in the first weekend?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on March 06, 2018, 06:12:18 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2018, 02:48:46 PM

As for Plattsburgh not hosting over Swarthmore... the criteria gives this to Swarthmore over Platt. I saw that as an easy decision between the two. FYI - winning your conference has NOTHING to do with this process and we shouldn't reference it. If that was the case, should Southern Vermont have hosted and not traveled to Wesleyan in the first weekend?

I wasn't insinuating that was the reason Plattsburgh didn't host - I get that they would probably not have even been second in line based on ranking.  I was just saying that them not hosting was not because of other activities on campus.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on March 07, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
In light of the weather, is Plattsburgh already in Philadelphia?  It would seem too late to leave now as the storm is already affecting areas south of us...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 07, 2018, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: spwood on March 07, 2018, 08:50:39 AM
In light of the weather, is Plattsburgh already in Philadelphia?  It would seem too late to leave now as the storm is already affecting areas south of us...

The weather isn't a concern. It will be a non-story by Thursday. The temps are high enough it will all melt pretty quick. Last week's storm was timed far worse and was far bigger and nastier... it did cause some problems at Cabrini (especially one team who decided to bus in that day). This isn't going to be a big deal at all.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 07, 2018, 12:31:06 PM
spwood - wasn't saying you did indicate that... I was basing my thoughts on Magicman's thoughts (below):

Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2018, 01:30:41 PM
I have been looking for info on where the sectional is going to be. The NCAA sucks. We should have been the host. Swarthmore didn't even win their conference tournament. The NCAA gives a sectional to an at large team that is ranked 3rd in their region over Plattsburgh,  SUNYAC regular season champs, SUNYAC conference tournament champs, #1 ranked team in their region, the best record among the 4 teams(tied with Hamilton) and the only host team in the quadrant that won their pod.

bear,

So much for the cheap NCAA (which we know how cheap they can be from past years) sending the 3 teams to Swarthmore which is the highest total mileage.


Thus my comment... it doesn't matter if Swarthmore didn't win the conference tournament. It isn't part of the conversation just as it isn't part of the conversation when it comes to regional rankings. Magicman, you know better.

As for being cheap... well, let me start here:

Quote from: thebear on March 04, 2018, 11:57:54 AM
Hamilton has a 5,000 seat facility. 

Total Miles 655 at Hamilton, 696 at Springfield, 852 at Plattsburgh, 931 at Swarthmore. 

Hamilton plays in the NESCAC which is the #7 conference, SUNYAC is #23. 

Hamilton is ranked 27 in Massey,  Swarthmore 31, Plattsburgh 42, Springfield 101. 

NCAA is cheap, BTW all 4 colleges are on break starting 3/9  ???

I struck-out out the items that have nothing to do with hosting...

The seating capacity is a nice thing for the NCAA, though for the record Hamilton does NOT seat 5,000... more like 2,000 based on what the school has told the NCAA officially.

There is hosting criteria and when that criteria doesn't dictate an automatic answer (which it doesn't in this case), the regional rankings and criteria play their role. Hamilton I thought had a good argument, but from what I was told the committee felt strongly in Swarthmore's favor. The stuff above... irrelevant.

Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2018, 01:30:41 PM
bear,

So much for the cheap NCAA (which we know how cheap they can be from past years) sending the 3 teams to Swarthmore which is the highest total mileage.


In other words... why do we care about mileage in terms of totals? The costs are basically the same if we are busing. I remember one team that got to Salem had been sent to basically the maximum under 500 for every weekend prior (think it was 2013, so it was a bit more extreme). Just because they had a lot of mileage doesn't mean they host - or don't - for some reason.

The point: as long as the mileage is under 500, the NCAA feels any bus trip is the same expense no matter the actual costs. If we started getting into the costs of each individual trip down to the penny, bracketing would be an even bigger pain in the ass. The NCAA makes it simple for the committee and mileage of teams traveling... doesn't mean jack.

I am really confused by some of the comments in here recently. It is like we are making things up or forgetting the basics of how this all works.

I said above, I thought Hamilton had a strong case to possibly host.. the committee felt otherwise with the data they have in front of them - which is more than we have in front of us.

BTW - stop blaming the NCAA. It is a cop out and gets old. Division III schools vote on and decide their own rules within the committees made up of member schools and ultimately votes at each year's NCAA Convention. The "NCAA" doesn't make these things up. They simply carry out the mandate from the division. The division has to work within it's budget for the entire year and set rules in place for all of it's championships. You may consider them cheap, but they are spending more money now than they have in the past and working with a budget of $30m+ for this year in which over 75% of it goes towards the championships. I'll add, basketball is one of the top three championships expenditures each year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
Dave,

There was a report on the news last night about how much money the NCAA made this past year. It was a staggering amount. Spend more on the student-athletes in Division 3. After all it is the one division that truly represents the standards the NCAA professes to adhere to. Yeah I think the NCAA is cheap. Spend some of that money and for once send 3 teams out west to Whitman. They've earned the right to host as well. They could send 3 teams out there by just telling all their lawyers to take the weekend off and not eat out. ::)   

Plattsburgh did everything it was supposed to do to merit becoming a host of the sectional. The won their entry into the NCAA tournament by winning their conference's automatic bid. They weren't given an at large bid like the other 3 teams in the sectional.  They won their regular season conference crown in a runaway, with a 17-1 record. They were the #1 ranked team in the East Region in the final rankings. They have the longest current winning streak in the country at 21 games. (I know, I know, has nothing to do with who gets to host)  They have the best overall record of the sectional teams. All of this represents a body of work, one that outshines the other teams they were up against. What else could we do to gain the right to host? We didn't have our best player in the 4 losses we had. Jon Patron averages a double-double of around 24 points and 11 rebounds. We were 4-4 without him. 20-0 with him. We could have been undefeated with him, or at the worst 27-1. We were never ranked until the 2nd to last week of the season. We were never given the "Kent Raymond" treatment like Wheaton (Ill.) was back in 2009. No one thought about how good is Plattsburgh with Patron? If we did go 27-1 or undefeated we still wouldn't have been chosen to host according to "the criteria". And comparing Southern Vermont hosting Wesleyan to Plattsburgh hosting the sectional is not the same thing. I'm surprised at you! :D

I'll ask again...what exactly did we have to do to earn the right to host the sectional? We did everything we could.     

None of the other sectional teams in our quadrant won their conference's regular season title. None of the other teams won their conference tournament. We are the only team among the 4 to enter the NCAA tournament with a win instead of a loss. None of the other 3 teams are ranked #1 in their respective region. They were 3rd, 4th, and 6th....not even close to a #1  regional ranking. They didn't ring the bell, why should they benefit when the Cardinals accomplished all the goals these teams couldn't.

If criteria was so important and Swarthmore's  SOS was better than Plattsburgh's (and that's all that was better)  then why wasn't Hamilton, who had a better SOS than Swarthmore, a better win percentage than Swarthmore and a better won-loss record against regionally ranked opponents 6-3 vs 3-4, chosen over them. I can't make sense of what the committee did. I realize it's a bunch of coaches from all the regions but I don't think they gave Plattsburgh State or Hamilton for that matter, a fair shake. The SUNYAC has consistently been overlooked in favor of the private schools. This year was no exception and I think a majority of people following D3 hoops would have expected Plattsburgh, with their outstanding season, to be the sectional host.

I guess the bottom line, Dave, is that we won't agree on this one. If Plattsburgh's great season wasn't enough to give them the right to host this sectional, even with all of the other first round hosts losing, (and lets face it usually a first round host is chosen to host a sectional, unless they all lose) then I wonder if that moment will ever arrive again.

I think this sectional is a fairly even match up of 4 quality teams, any one of which can advance to the Final Four. I would have liked to have home court advantage and felt we earned it, more so than the other teams. I wish there had been a poll on the front page asking the D3hoop members to vote on who they thought should have hosted this sectional. I'm pretty sure Plattsburgh would have been the #1 answer. I've had an awful lot of knowledgeable D3hoops people ask me why we aren't hosting. I can't, for the life of me, give them a straight answer. :( 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 08, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM

There was a report on the news last night about how much money the NCAA made this past year. It was a staggering amount. Spend more on the student-athletes in Division 3.

3.18% of the annual NCAA budget goes to Division III. Changing that requires a vote of all NCAA members, and it's unlikely that Division I schools, let alone the Power Five, would vote to give themselves less.

The sectional hosting decision doesn't seem to be about money. I don't know the reason, but it's not about money.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 08, 2018, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
Dave,

There was a report on the news last night about how much money the NCAA made this past year. It was a staggering amount. Spend more on the student-athletes in Division 3. After all it is the one division that truly represents the standards the NCAA professes to adhere to. Yeah I think the NCAA is cheap. Spend some of that money and for once send 3 teams out west to Whitman. They've earned the right to host as well. They could send 3 teams out there by just telling all their lawyers to take the weekend off and not eat out. ::)

As Pat already mentioned, DIII gets 3.18% of the budget. NCAA has more revenue, DIII gets more as well. At the same percentage.

BTW - the number you read was REVENUE. Not how much the NCAA actually MADE (NET INCOME). NCAA is non-profit, FYI.

The ENTIRE NCAA would have to vote to change the percentages. Feel free to ask DI schools if they would consider it. This has been the percentage since the inception of the divisions.

Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
Plattsburgh did everything it was supposed to do to merit becoming a host of the sectional. The won their entry into the NCAA tournament by winning their conference's automatic bid. They weren't given an at large bid like the other 3 teams in the sectional.  They won their regular season conference crown in a runaway, with a 17-1 record. They were the #1 ranked team in the East Region in the final rankings. They have the longest current winning streak in the country at 21 games. (I know, I know, has nothing to do with who gets to host)  They have the best overall record of the sectional teams. All of this represents a body of work, one that outshines the other teams they were up against. What else could we do to gain the right to host? We didn't have our best player in the 4 losses we had. Jon Patron averages a double-double of around 24 points and 11 rebounds. We were 4-4 without him. 20-0 with him. We could have been undefeated with him, or at the worst 27-1. We were never ranked until the 2nd to last week of the season. We were never given the "Kent Raymond" treatment like Wheaton (Ill.) was back in 2009. No one thought about how good is Plattsburgh with Patron? If we did go 27-1 or undefeated we still wouldn't have been chosen to host according to "the criteria". And comparing Southern Vermont hosting Wesleyan to Plattsburgh hosting the sectional is not the same thing. I'm surprised at you! :D

Yep - you already know this is coming - most of what you mentioned means nothing to hosting.

- Won their entry to the tournament as an AQ - congrats, doesn't affect hosting decisions (helps bracketing and seeding, though).
- The others getting at-large bids, means nothing.
- #1 in the East Region is a nice feather in the cap, but their criteria numbers weren't that solid. They would not have been in the top five in the Northeast, top three or four in the Mid-Atlantic, and maybe third in the Atlantic Region. There is a reason Brockport was the only at-large selection in the East Region... the numbers in the region just aren't that good.
- Longest winning streak is a nice thing, but again... not criteria (as you clearly know, but mentioned anyway).
- Best overall record is also nice, but there is SOS, vRRO, head-to-head, and comparable opponents also included as part of the primary criteria. Plattsburgh trails in most of those to the point that they would have probably been the third choice in this group to host.
- Not sure you can say it automatically outshines the other opponents especially since Plattsburgh played in a down SUNYAC this year that doesn't compare to the NESCAC, especially, and the Centennial. Even the NEWMAC appear to be a better conference, IMO, than the SUNYAC this year.
- What do they have to do to host? Improve their numbers. .523 SOS is right at the "good" or "average" spot. And 3-3 is nice, but not against a lot of teams outside of the East Region. They have to improve those numbers and/or opponents. They also have to beat opponents that will matter - Middlebury was ranked fifth in the NE Region, didn't help Platt to lose. Keene State was ranked 7th, and Platt lost which doesn't help their case. That's just two examples.
- Yes, you didn't have your best player for the four losses, but that means nothing to the committee. It isn't part of what they are allowed to look at. Games are equal across the board and there is no criteria that says "eye test" or "who were they missing." They might have been undefeated with Patron and if they were, this wouldn't be a conversation... but they weren't... and those games mean the same as the ones he played in.
- And why isn't Southern Vermont/Wesleyan the same convo? Williams won the NESCAC title for the AQ; Wesleyan got an at-large. Southern Vermont won the AQ in their conference. By your argument, SVC should have been hosting over Wesleyan because Southern Vermont won the AQ. What I am pointing out here is the simple fact... the AQ argument isn't valid.

Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
I'll ask again...what exactly did we have to do to earn the right to host the sectional? We did everything we could.

I've already explained... better resume outside of just their WL%. Better SOS, better vRRO (especially beat teams in other regions that are ranked well).

Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
None of the other sectional teams in our quadrant won their conference's regular season title. None of the other teams won their conference tournament. We are the only team among the 4 to enter the NCAA tournament with a win instead of a loss. None of the other 3 teams are ranked #1 in their respective region. They were 3rd, 4th, and 6th....not even close to a #1  regional ranking. They didn't ring the bell, why should they benefit when the Cardinals accomplished all the goals these teams couldn't.

You have to get off of this. You act like a) conferences are equal, b) the SUNYAC was as strong as usual, and c) regions are equal. None of that is or was true this year. The conferences aren't equal. NESCAC is one of the best in the country, Centennial is better especially at top (far better at the top) than the SUNYAC, and the NEWMAC seemed to be better this year if you look at the numbers. Also, the East Region isn't very strong right now. The NE Region is certainly better than the East as East teams wouldn't rank very high when compared head-to-head. Thus why there were more at-large selections from the NE Region than the East Region (1).

Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
If criteria was so important and Swarthmore's  SOS was better than Plattsburgh's (and that's all that was better)  then why wasn't Hamilton, who had a better SOS than Swarthmore, a better win percentage than Swarthmore and a better won-loss record against regionally ranked opponents 6-3 vs 3-4, chosen over them. I can't make sense of what the committee did. I realize it's a bunch of coaches from all the regions but I don't think they gave Plattsburgh State or Hamilton for that matter, a fair shake. The SUNYAC has consistently been overlooked in favor of the private schools. This year was no exception and I think a majority of people following D3 hoops would have expected Plattsburgh, with their outstanding season, to be the sectional host.

I've said I was surprised Hamilton didn't have a better case, but I talked to those on the committee and apparently they felt strongly that Swarthmore was the best choice. We even had a committee member on the show talking about his team and asked him.

BTW - the WL record of the vRRO is now how they measure that criteria. It is "results" versus regionally ranked opponents. Who did you play, who did you beat, who did you lose to... where are those teams ranked. It is NOT a WL criteria data set. Never has been.

You can say the SUNYAC is overlooked in favor of private schools, but that is also just a straw man's argument. First off, the division is made up of 20% or less in public schools. The numbers are always going to side with privates simply by the make-up of the division. Secondly, BROCKPORT MADE THE NCAA TOURNAMENT AS AN AT-LARGE TEAM OVER HOBART and MANY other private schools. The argument is BS considering NONE of us thought Brockport would even be in a position to be selected.

And no... a majority of people did NOT think Plattsburgh would be the host. You are welcome to talk to the entire staff at D3hoops.com who didn't feel that way. We know how this works the best of all and I thought it was Hamilton or Swarthmore and not Plattsburgh.

Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
I guess the bottom line, Dave, is that we won't agree on this one. If Plattsburgh's great season wasn't enough to give them the right to host this sectional, even with all of the other first round hosts losing, (and lets face it usually a first round host is chosen to host a sectional, unless they all lose) then I wonder if that moment will ever arrive again.

Great season by your definition and by the definition of ONE criteria mark. Again, SOS was average at best (that number and below is pretty much in the zone of not being selected as at-large most years) and their 3-3 vRRO wasn't that impressive.

BTW - No.. a first round host is NOT basically chosen to host a sectional if they move on. We can go through a LOT of examples in recent years no less where this does NOT hold water. There are so many variables that it is NOT a given. And I don't feel it should be a given. Sure, there is a decent chance, but with other brackets having different teams and the fact we have geography that is always in play... assuming because you hosted in the first weekend you will host in the second is a fool's errand. The committee felt Plattsburgh was the right choice for the opening weekend to host. When they looked at the remaining teams they felt they were not the right choice. I agree looking at that, though again, I would have picked Hamilton (though, we also don't know if there were other reasons for that choice like hosting bid information).

Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
I think this sectional is a fairly even match up of 4 quality teams, any one of which can advance to the Final Four. I would have liked to have home court advantage and felt we earned it, more so than the other teams. I wish there had been a poll on the front page asking the D3hoop members to vote on who they thought should have hosted this sectional. I'm pretty sure Plattsburgh would have been the #1 answer. I've had an awful lot of knowledgeable D3hoops people ask me why we aren't hosting. I can't, for the life of me, give them a straight answer. :(

Yes. Any of the four can advance and in men's Division III basketball less than half the hosts end up moving through. The percentages are with the traveling teams than the host teams.

And you can go ahead and think Plattsburgh would have won that poll... I am willing to bet those who know how the criteria and selections work... would have picked Hamilton or Swarthmore. Apparently you should send those "knowledgeable" people to me... because maybe they aren't that knowledgeable about the process and decision making and I would be happy to explain it. I explain it every show night on Hoopsville.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2018, 07:43:16 PM
NCAA Sectional  Sweet 16

Plattsburgh State at Swarthmore     7:30 PM


This is a tough game to call and it just may come down to home court advantage. Both teams had been successful because they have outrebounded the opposition by a wide margin. Swarthmore is 5th in the country in rebound differential and Plattsburgh is 13th. Both teams have a trio of very good offensive rebounders.

Swarthmore comes at you with 3 big men and 6'7" sophomore forward, Zac O'Dell, with a total of of 236 rebounds (8.1 rpg), 93 of them on the offensive end, leads the way. He also averages 10.5 ppg. Robbie Walsh, a 6'8" senior forward, has a total of 179 rebounds (6.2 rpg) of which 48 are offensive rebounds. He averages 8.5 ppg. Sophomore Nate Shafer is a 6'6" forward, who comes off the bench and has grabbed 47 offensive rebounds among his total 162 boards (6.2 rpg). He is scoring 9.7 ppg.

The Garnet have a pair of excellent guards who lead them in scoring.  Cam Wiley, a 6'0" junior guard, is an All American candidate again, after receiving 3rd team honors last season, from the NABC. He's having another outstanding year, as he is averaging 16.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, and almost 4 assists per game. He is quick, can penetrate, dish or finish, and also hurt you from downtown. He will be a handful to keep in check. 6'2" senior Zack Yonda, another starting guard, is the 2nd leading scorer on the team, averaging 13.6 ppg and 3.5 rpg. He can also shoot the 3ball, making 2 per game at a 41% clip. The other starting player is 6'0" freshman guard, Ryan Ingram. He averages 6.1 ppg, 2.8 rpg and has made 34 three pointers.   

Also off the bench has freshman guard, Conor Harkins, a 6'3" long distance specialist who leads the team with 73 three pointers. He has a total of 84 field goals so when he shoots it is almost always from behind the arc. The Garnet have two other guards that come off the bench that are part of their 9 man rotation.

Swarthmore will run a lot of plays near the top of the lane looking to set screens for their shooters and crash the offensive boards. They are well coached and will look to get the ball to their big men early and often.

Plattsburgh State will counter with a triumvirate of their own excellent rebounders. The Cardinals are led by All American candidate and SUNYAC Player of the Year, 6'2" junior forward Jon Patron. Jon led the SUNYAC in scoring with 24.3 ppg and also was the leading rebounder with 10.6 rpg. He is shooting 56% from the field, 75% from the line and 35 %from behind the arc. When he gets the ball inside he is nearly unstoppable and has faced bigger men and double teams in every game he's played. He has yet to taste defeat this year as the Cardinals are 20-0 in the games he's played.  He has 212 rebounds and 71 of them are on the offensive end. Ian Howard is a 6'3" junior forward, who like Patron plays much bigger. Plattsburgh's coach has called Ian, the best offensive rebounder he's ever coached.  Howard has amassed 217 rebounds this season and 96 of them are of the offensive variety.  He averages 7.8 rpg and 4.8 ppg.  Eric Mack is a 6'3" senior guard, who has a leaping ability not usually seen in Division III. Coming off the bench and playing from the guard position, he has managed to accumulate 155 rebounds, with 49 of those off the offensive glass. Mack averages 5.5 rpg, 10.9 ppg and was the leading shot blocker in the SUNYAC conference. He has been credited with 61 blocks but in one game on the road he was credited with 0 blocks when he had at least 6 in that game.

One stat worth noting as I looked at the numbers regarding the rebounding battle, is that the Plattsburgh trio has 584 rebounds between them, of which 216 are offensive boards. This was done with the 3 players playing a total of 1703 minutes between them.

The Swarthmore threesome has 577 rebounds with 188 of them offensive ones. They did this with the 3 players on the court for a total of 1955 minutes.

Plattsburgh also has a long bench that will go 10 deep. Starters  senior guard Zack Coleman is a 6'2" defensive specialist that will probably have the assignment on Swarthmore's Wiley. Zack will run the point on offense and can score when asked to do so. He averages 4.4 ppg, 2 assists per game and 1.8rpg. 8Chris Middleton, is a 6'7" junior guard who averages 8.2 ppg and 5.6 rpg. Middleton also crashes the offensive boards and has a total of 51 on that end. Nick DeAngelis is a 6'4" sophomore guard that can shoot the three pointer and go to the hoop with authority. His 48 made 3's are 2nd most on the team.

The main threat coming off the bench is the scoring ability and quickness of 5'11" guard Eli Bryant. Normally a starter Bryant elected to come off the bench this year and has lit a fire under the team on numerous occasions. He was the 2nd leading scorer in the SUNYAC conference averaging 19.1 ppg in conference play and did that playing less minutes than a number of the other top 10 players. Overall Eli averaged 16 ppg, 3.3 assists per game and 2.9 rpg.  Brandon Johnson, a 5'10" junior guard, is another super quick guard who brings instant offense to the Cardinal offense. Able to get to the rim and also knock down the 3 pointer, Johnson has made 40 triples this year. He averages 8.9 ppg, 2.7 apg and 2.3 rpg.  6'7" sophomore, Adam Jaquish and 6'7" junior Isaiah Hill will both provide quality minutes to give the Cardinal forward a break.

Plattsburgh wil play an uptempo game and look to get the ball inside to Patron as much as possible. Patron is adept at finding the open man when they double team him and many times that will result in a wide open three point look. The Cardinals ability for 2nd chance points has been a big part of their success and going head to head with another team that has that same style will be interesting.

The oddsmakers have Swarthmore favored to win this game by a 5 point margin. However if the game were in Plattsburgh they had the Cardinals favored by a single point. The odds favored Hamilton by 5 points as well in the early game and we've just seen the conclusion to that one and watched Springfield pull off the 92-90 upset in overtime. Here's hoping my Cardinals can pull off another mild upset. I think we are just as good as Swarthmore and wouldn't consider it an upset though. Plattsburgh keeps their winning streak alive as they come away with a 86-83 win to advance and play Springfield tomorrow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on March 09, 2018, 07:47:47 PM
go Cards...for the honor of the Empire State
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 09, 2018, 11:53:22 PM
I'm sure you are disappointed with the result, but congratulations to magicman and the Cardinals on a great season!
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2018, 12:26:30 AM
Size was just too much of a factor in this one.  Plattsburgh just got housed to start the game and with the ability of Swarthmore to score, spotting them 20 points was way too much.  Good showing from the Cardinals, though - they hung in there and battled.  More importantly, Patron now knows what he has to add to his game for next year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2018, 04:50:35 AM
Quote from: AllStar on March 09, 2018, 11:53:22 PM
I'm sure you are disappointed with the result, but congratulations to magicman and the Cardinals on a great season!
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Thanks AllStar,

Was the worst game the Cardinals have played in quite a while. Have to give credit to Swarthmore, they were a very good team. It hurt  when Plattsburgh struggled early with their shooting woes and when Patron had to go to the bench with 2 fouls just 4 minutes into the game I knew we were in trouble. We weren't going to win without him and now we were in a hole without him. Coach Curle took a time out when the Cards fell behind 22-5 with 11:17 remaining in the half and put Patron back into the game. Might as well take your chances that he could stay out of foul trouble. Plattsburgh cut the deficit to 10 points but Swarthmore was able to to prevent them from getting any closer with an 8-2 spurt that built the lead back to 16. We needed to go into the break with a little momentum and after a steal by Eli Bryant and a dunk by Eric Mack narrowed the gap to 12, we couldn't get a stop on the other end and didn't score in our final possession of the period. The Cardinals needed to come out of the break on fire, to get back into the game but it was the Garnet that scored the first 2 buckets of the period and Plattsburgh was down by 19 quickly. After falling behind by 21 Plattsburgh tried to rally and a pair of baskets from Patron and a triple from Brandon Johnson cut the deficit to 16 but Swarthmore ran off a 17-4 run to put the game away. Plattsburgh shot 35% from the field...Swarthmore shot 59.7%. That's the story of this game in a nutshell.

Great season for the Cardinals and to make the Sweet 16 is quite an accomplishment. Hopefully with a large group of returning players next season, they can make another run.

To the Plattsburgh players....thanks for all the exciting games I was able to witness this year. A 21 game winning streak was quite a ride!!!  8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2018, 08:26:11 AM

Plattsburgh was just overmatched.  Curle earned a heap of respect from me - he was open and honest in the post-game press conference - no coachspeak or spin anywhere.  He came off as a coach who was tremendously proud of his players, but also one who knew how much it hurt to be exposed a bit.  Eric Mack did a great job as well, in what's basically an impossible situation.  Sometimes you run up against a better team.  If the shots had fallen early, perhaps they would've been able to make a game of it, but Swat is tough and they were playing their absolute best game of the year.

Plattsburgh is losing a lot, but they've got a strong bench - the guys who played the last minute were clearly talented - and Patron is back.  He's a smart player and I think he'll grow a lot over the summer.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Mike Rejniak on March 12, 2018, 11:23:10 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 14, 2018, 04:14:45 PM
The National Association of Basketball Coaches announced their All Region Teams on Monday. Plattsburgh State and Brockport State were honored with the following players earning All District awards.

Jon Patron, Plattsburgh State, was named as the East Region's Player of the Year and to the All District First Team.

Hamed Shamseldin Brockport State was named to the All District First Team.

Eli Bryant, Plattsburgh State,  was named to the All District Second Team.

Tom Curle, Plattsburgh State, was named as the East Region's Coach of the Year.



Here is the complete list of the East Region All District Teams.


EAST

First Team                                                                       

Ryan Clamage, Rochester

Jonathan Patron, SUNY Plattsburgh*      District  Player of the Year

Edvinus Rupkus, Skidmore

Hamed Shamseldin, SUNY Brockport

Tyler Stenglein, Nazareth

Kevin Williams, SUNY Polytechnic



Second Team

Eli Bryant, SUNY Plattsburgh

Colin Dougherty, Hobart

Ivan Iton, Utica

Jamal Lucas, Hobart

Kevin Weckworth, Union



Coach of the Year: Tom Curle, SUNY Plattsburgh


Here's as link to the Complete NABC list of All District Teams:

http://nabc.com/NABC_Releases/2018/d3_all_district
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2018, 06:07:40 AM
D3hoops announced their All Region teams on March 12th and the accolades continue to accumulate for our top SUNYAC players. Congratulations to all the players and to Coach Curle.

Jon Patron, Plattsburgh State, was named as the Player of the Year for the East Region and to the First Team.

Hamed Shamseldin, Brockport State, was named to the First Team.

Eli Bryant, Plattsburgh State, was named to the Second Team.

Justin Cooper, Cortland State, was named to the Third Team.

Justin Summers, Brockport State, was named to the Third team.

Tom Curle, Plattsburgh State, was selected as the Coach of the Year for the East Region.


Here are all the players selected from the East Region.

Player of the Year: Jonathan Patron, Plattsburgh State
Coach of the Year: Tom Curle, Plattsburgh State
Rookie of the Year: Kevin Townes, Hartwick

First team       
Pos.   Player                    School           Yr.   Hometown
G    Edvinas Rupkus    Skidmore             Jr.    Naujoji Akmene, Lithuania
G    Hamed Shamseldin    Brockport             Sr.    Lawrence, N.Y.
G    Tyler Stenglein      Nazareth             Sr.    Rochester, N.Y.
F    Jonathan Patron    Plattsburgh State Jr.    Huntington, N.Y.
F    Kevin Williams            SUNY Poly           Sr.    Brooklyn, N.Y.
Second team       
Pos.   Player                    School            Yr.   Hometown
G    Eli Bryant              Plattsburgh State Sr.    Staten Island, N.Y.
G    Ryan Clamage            Rochester              Jr.    Lake Forest, Ill.
G    Colin Dougherty         Hobart              Jr.    Lockport, N.Y.
G    Jamal Lucas            Hobart              Jr.    New York, N.Y.
F    Ivan Iton                    Utica              Sr.    Ossining, N.Y.
Third team       
Pos.   Player                    School             Yr.   Hometown
G    Spencer Cook            Stevens               So. Washington Township, N.J.
G    Justin Cooper            Cortland               Jr. Pine Plains, N.Y.
G    Tom Horvat            RPI                       Jr. Cranston, R.I.
F    Jake Burgio            Nazareth                Jr. Brockport, N.Y.
F    Justin Summers         Brockport                So. Brooklyn, N.Y.


Here's a link to all the other regions:

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2017-18/index


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 16, 2018, 07:09:36 AM
The honors continue to pile up for Plattsburgh State's Jon Patron as he was named on Thursday, March 15th, by the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC), as a First Team All American. Congratulation to Jon and all the players who received All American status.

Selected from the East Region:

2018 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM
Jonathan Patron, Plattsburgh State, 6-4, Junior, Forward, Huntington, N.Y.


2018 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA SECOND TEAM
Edvinas Rupkus, Skidmore, 6-4, Junior, Guard, Naujoji Akmene, Lithuania


2018 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA THIRD TEAM
Tyler Stenglein, Nazareth, 6-3, Senior, Guard, Rochester, N.Y.


Here's the link to the complete list of All America teams:

http://nabc.com/NABC_Releases/2018/d3_all-america
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 19, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
You must have had a wonderful time up there in the North Country watching your team this year!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 20, 2018, 01:17:39 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 19, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
You must have had a wonderful time up there in the North Country watching your team this year!!!

I did and I kept waiting for you to chime in once in a while. Good to hear from you. Hoping next year will be even better.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 20, 2018, 11:05:06 AM
On Saturday at the Division 3 National Championship game D3hoops announced their 25 man All-America Team.

Jon Patron from Plattsburgh State was named as an Honorable Mention All American.

Jon was the only player from the East Region to make the list.

Congratulations to Jon for an exceptional year. Hoping next year will bring even greater success for him and his Cardinal teammates.  8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 20, 2018, 12:07:55 PM
The final D3hoops Top 25 poll was released on Monday and Plattsburgh State ended up in the #18 spot with 216 votes. The Cardinals were the only team from the East Region to make the season ending poll.

Congratulations to Coach Curle and the Cardinal players on a special season.

Here's the link to the Final Top 25 poll:


  http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2017-18/final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: with age came? on March 26, 2018, 07:06:09 PM
Still follow the games  though not quite as religiously.  Also my Coaching acquaintance for the Continentals has me following the Northeast quite a bit too!! ;D I'll try to chime in more next year!!  Great season for the Cards and it makes me happy when the "Guru of the East" is happy!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 27, 2018, 04:22:15 AM
Quote from: with age came? on March 26, 2018, 07:06:09 PM
Still follow the games  though not quite as religiously.  Also my Coaching acquaintance for the Continentals has me following the Northeast quite a bit too!! ;D I'll try to chime in more next year!!  Great season for the Cards and it makes me happy when the "Guru of the East" is happy!! ;)

I was also following the Continentals quite closely. They had a good season and except for a few missed free throws at the end of regulation might have made it to the Final Four. Certainly should have won that game against Springfield to advance to the Elite Eight. They'll have another good team next year.     So will my Cardinals. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on June 22, 2018, 11:23:51 AM

SUNY Cortland's Carrel Joseph will play for the Republic of Haiti during the 2021 FIBA World Cup Qualifiers Americas Cup. Joseph was chosen to be a part of the 12-man roster for Haiti as they compete in the 2021 FIBA AmeriCup Caribbean Pre Qualifier. For the past several weeks, Joseph has been training in Miami for the chance to represent his country. A native of Haiti, Joseph recently graduated from SUNY Cortland.

"Being able to represent my country is an honor and a life long dream coming true," Joseph said. "I am looking forward to the experience."
The FIBA AmeriCup 2021 Caribbean Pre- Qualifier will qualify two teams for the FIBA AmeriCup 2021 Qualifiers beginning in September. The two qualified Caribbean teams will join the South American and Central American Pre- Qualifier Champions along with the four-eliminated Round One - FIBA Basketball World Cup Qualifier – Americas teams.

The Preliminary Phase for the FIBA AmeriCup 2021 Caribbean Pre- Qualifier begins on June 24 and concludes on June 28.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on July 18, 2018, 02:59:01 PM
Congrats to Joseph. I'm glad we don't see him walking into BENGALS Sports Arena anymore!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2018, 03:33:39 AM
1st week of SUNYAC hoops practice.   Nuff said!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 17, 2018, 03:56:18 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2018, 03:33:39 AM
1st week of SUNYAC hoops practice.   Nuff said!

So you're not gonna tell me about the new players you have on the Bengals' roster this year? What about those transfers I heard rumors about?


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2018, 11:07:49 PM
Quote from: magicman on October 17, 2018, 03:56:18 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 17, 2018, 03:33:39 AM
1st week of SUNYAC hoops practice.   Nuff said!

So you're not gonna tell me about the new players you have on the Bengals' roster this year? What about those transfers I heard rumors about?

Stay tuned ol wise one!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on October 22, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Greetings all! Welcome back to another year of what should be some good hoops! Please forgive me I have been out of touch for a while, but fear not I am back and looking forward to the YAC'! Magic Man - can I have your take on who should be the team(s) to beat in the early portion of the year? Bengalsrule, how are the boys looking up there in Buffalo? And to all my other fellow friends with connections to their respective programs, can you provide some insights? Thanks all! Peace and Light

LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Riley056 on October 23, 2018, 09:05:13 AM
Predictions on who wins the league this season?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 25, 2018, 01:16:47 AM
Quote from: Riley056 on October 23, 2018, 09:05:13 AM
Predictions on who wins the league this season?

1st let me welcome a first time visitor to, the SUNYAC boards.  Hope it's not your last.

2nd I think that it's too early to predict a Yac winner , since most teams haven't posted thier rosters ( so you don't know what potentially eligible players didn't return and which ones did return) .

Having said that I'm sure at least 1 SUNYAC regular will predict the Plattsburgh Cards as his pick to walk away with the Yac chip.  I'm sure his reasoning, and others,  will include the return of last years league MVP and all American Jon Patron.  And to be honest, there are probably others within  the Yac family who would also pick the Cards to win it all.  The Cards return most of last years team although most, outside Clinton county, wont shed tears knowing that the Cards #2 and #3 scorers from last year (Eli Bryant, Eric Mack)  along with Zack Coleman will no longer enter the game on the Memorial court floor.

But it's early.  I will say this.  As a BENGALS homer, I'm excited about what I've seen so far at 1300 Elmwood.  Stay tuned Riley056 and Law Firm.  Hopefully you both will be back and stay in touch.In the past we've seen some brief cameos from folks who disappear after thier favorite team fizzles. I know there's a "magical" guy from the north country who would like to get to know you, and your favorite Yac team ( if you have one) and chat it up about, arguably, the best d3 basketball conference in the East region, if not on the east coast!

Stay tuned my friend.  Stay tuned.

Go BENGALS !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 25, 2018, 04:47:54 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 25, 2018, 01:16:47 AM
Quote from: Riley056 on October 23, 2018, 09:05:13 AM
Predictions on who wins the league this season?

1st let me welcome a first time visitor to, the SUNYAC boards.  Hope it's not your last.

2nd I think that it's too early to predict a Yac winner , since most teams haven't posted thier rosters ( so you don't know what potentially eligible players didn't return and which ones did return) .

Having said that I'm sure at least 1 SUNYAC regular will predict the Plattsburgh Cards as his pick to walk away with the Yac chip.  I'm sure his reasoning, and others,  will include the return of last years league MVP and all American Jon Patron.  And to be honest, there are probably others within  the Yac family who would also pick the Cards to win it all.  The Cards return most of last years team although most, outside Clinton county, wont shed tears knowing that the Cards #2 and #3 scorers from last year (Eli Bryant, Eric Mack)  along with Zack Coleman will no longer enter the game on the Memorial court floor.

But it's early.  I will say this.  As a BENGALS homer, I'm excited about what I've seen so far at 1300 Elmwood.  Stay tuned Riley056 and Law Firm.  Hopefully you both will be back and stay in touch.In the past we've seen some brief cameos from folks who disappear after thier favorite team fizzles. I know there's a "magical" guy from the north country who would like to get to know you, and your favorite Yac team ( if you have one) and chat it up about, arguably, the best d3 basketball conference in the East region, if not on the east coast!

Stay tuned my friend.  Stay tuned.

Go BENGALS !


Sounds like the "Master Charmer" has extended his warm welcome to Mr. Riley.

However I think Mr. Riley is a fan of the WIAC conference first and foremost but follows D3 around the country. I do hope you come back and visit from time to time. Always welcome here.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 25, 2018, 08:51:11 AM
Plattsburgh State's Jon Patron has been named to several preseason All-American teams.

On Wednesday Oct 24th Jon was named to the D3hoops.com preseason All American 2nd Team. He is the only player from the East Region to make the D3hoops preseason teams.

Here is a link to the complete list:  http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2019

Last Wednesday on Oct. 17th Jon was named to the Street & Smith Basketball Magazine Preseason All-American First Team. Three other players from the East region made their honorable mention All American team. Colin Dougherty from Hobart, Edvinas Rupkus from Skidmore, and Tyler Stenglein from Nazareth.

Here is a link to the Street and Smith list:   https://gocardinalsports.com/documents/2018/10/17//HCmbb1819_Street_Smiths.pdf?id=4102

Jon ended last season also making several All American teams.

Jon enters the season with 1316 career points and is in good shape to establish a new all time high for total points in a Cardinal uniform. Former Plattsburgh State player, Anthony Williams, who was also a two time All American (2006-07 and 2007-08)  currently holds the Cardinal scoring record with 1734 points. Jon needs 419 points to break that record and last year scored 498 points while missing 8 games. I believe Jon gets the Cardinal record and will make a run at the 2000 point mark.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2018, 01:25:07 PM
A link to your hard drive won't work, sorry.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 25, 2018, 02:23:35 PM
Quote from: The Law Firm on October 22, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Greetings all! Welcome back to another year of what should be some good hoops! Please forgive me I have been out of touch for a while, but fear not I am back and looking forward to the YAC'! Magic Man - can I have your take on who should be the team(s) to beat in the early portion of the year? Bengalsrule, how are the boys looking up there in Buffalo? And to all my other fellow friends with connections to their respective programs, can you provide some insights? Thanks all! Peace and Light

LF

Welcome back, The Law Firm. Hope you hang around for a while longer this year. Should be a very competitive conference as usual with Plattsburgh, Oneonta, Brockport, Cortland and Oswego bringing back a fair amount of talent, from teams that did well last year. That's 5 playoff spots accounted for, so that leaves very little room for the other 5 teams to see post season action in the YAC. One of the next five teams gets the only "Golden Ticket" left. 

Without full rosters posted yet I'll have to make some educated guesses but will do my final rankings as we get closer to opening day.

Your Bengals have many new faces with 4 freshman and what looks like 3 transfers on board. The team doesn't appear to have their big man back, 6'8" Junior Sir.Quintin Campbell. Sophomore forward, Bryan Harrel, who had a decent first year averaging 9 points a game is also missing. Couple that with 2 graduating seniors, both starters, All Conference forward Mike Henry and guard Malik Turner and the Bengals come up a bit short in the returning points category. Over 50 points of their 78 ppg average has left the building. It's not like the Bengals are coming off a great season either as they were down last year, so I think the coaching staff in the Queen City will have their work cut out for them this year in the conference. Coach Ansari has some good assistants, though and I'm sure they went out and found some excellent talent to pump new life into the Bengals. The question will be... how soon can this talent come together to try and grab one of the 6 playoff spots. Returning SUNYAC Rookie of the Year, guard Sheldon Adams, is a good beginning, but he will have to work with a new starting rotation to get the Bengals in the hunt.

Potsdam and New Paltz both showed improvement last year as their new coaches (Coach Bechtel, 2 years ago for Potsdam, and Coach Kenney, last year for New Paltz) began the process of turning these schools back into playoff contenders. I expect both teams to take another step up the ladder. It wouldn't surprise me to see one of these schools make the playoffs for the first time in a number of years.

Fredonia was at the bottom of the conference and they lost 4 of their top 5 scorers so I think they will be down near the bottom once again unless they found some great freshmen or latched onto a a number of solid transfers.

Geneseo was thrown a curve when their 2 All Conference underclassmen Junior Tommy Eastman and Senior Quinn Carey didn't return to the Knights this fall. I believe Cary has transferred to Oswego State, making Coach Leone a happy camper and Eastman is not in any school this year as far as I know. Geneseo will be hard pressed to return to the playoffs with the loss of these two underclassmen and the graduating seniors that ended their careers.
     
As I mentioned earlier, I'll give my complete rundown once all the schools have posted their rosters, but to keep Mr. Bengaslrule happy  I will let this bird out of the bag  (big bird...small bag)....The Plattsburgh State Cardinals are once again the team to beat. With a circle on their back as large as Target's logo, the Cardinals will have to bring it every night. With the added pressure of everyone getting pumped to give the Cards their best shot, it will be up to Plattsburgh's All-American, Jon Patron and his stellar cast of returning lettermen, to once again rise to the challenge. I'm betting they get it done, but they will have to overcome some very good YAC competition.

The Cardinals did get ranked in the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll as they check in at #14 with 214 points. They are the only team from the East Region ranked in the Top 25.

In the Others Receiving Votes category, Rochester gets 67 points to put them in the #27 spot and Nazareth with 60 points is #28.

Here's the link to the complete Top 25 Poll:  http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/preseason
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 27, 2018, 08:39:29 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2018, 01:25:07 PM
A link to your hard drive won't work, sorry.

Thanks Pat, I fixed it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 28, 2018, 12:25:53 AM
Quote from: magicman on October 27, 2018, 08:39:29 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2018, 01:25:07 PM
A link to your hard drive won't work, sorry.

Thanks Pat, I fixed it.

Thanks. Was curious to see how many people they included. I see it was 30 to our 25. Makes sense they'd have room for more people.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 29, 2018, 05:10:39 PM
I must admit. After "sneaking" into Buff State Sports arena to watch my BENGALS scrimmage a good Hilbert squad (18-9 last season and  returns all but 3 players from last years squad), I'm impressed with what I saw. Yes ITS ONLY A SCRIMMAGE....(just in case someone else feels the need to interject that thought!!! :( ). But from what I saw Saturday, left me with a feeling that this is a unit that's deep and loves to play together. No Big I's or all about Me but all about team!  Didn't see that kind of TEAM love last year. I am so encouraged especially from the play of....and ... and the penetrating of.. and of.... and the especially the rebounding of.....and...and...! I purposely put "...." because as a BENGALS fan/observer I don't quite know these kids names yet. But I will soon. Trust me!!

Stay tuned

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 05, 2018, 02:27:58 PM
Gentlemen,
It's been a while, hope everyone is well.
Magicman will enjoy another Great season by the Cardinals as Jon Patron will be unstoppable this season.
He deserves all the Pre-Season Accolades. That Dude can play.

I hope the Buffalo State Bengals can finally start to Make BengalsRule a Happy Man. He deserves a Good year as well.

My Oneonta Red Dragons came out of nowhere last year to make it to the Championship Game, and gave the Cardinals all they could handle. Looking for Coach Conover to get this group back and running smoothly for the 2018-19 season.

As always the SUNYAC is one of the toughest conference in the country and this season shouldn't disappoint.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 05, 2018, 11:48:10 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 05, 2018, 02:27:58 PM
Gentlemen,
It's been a while, hope everyone is well.
Magicman will enjoy another Great season by the Cardinals as Jon Patron will be unstoppable this season.
He deserves all the Pre-Season Accolades. That Dude can play.

I hope the Buffalo State Bengals can finally start to Make BengalsRule a Happy Man. He deserves a Good year as well.

My Oneonta Red Dragons came out of nowhere last year to make it to the Championship Game, and gave the Cardinals all they could handle. Looking for Coach Conover to get this group back and running smoothly for the 2018-19 season.

As always the SUNYAC is one of the toughest conference in the country and this season shouldn't disappoint.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

All Time. My favorite Oneonta guy!  It's been a while .  Your Red Dragons have had quite a good run in their first two years under Cam.  2 championships, 2 years in a row is a hard act to follow .  I just hope my Bengals can get there this year.   Looking forward to enjoying this Yac season.  Something tells me it's gonna be a wild one.   Hope to cross paths again one day.

I agree.  Yac is top tier hoops and shouldn't disappoint!

Yac is back

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 09, 2018, 03:35:19 PM
It's time to play ball!!

The Brockport Golden Eagles are the lid lifters for the 2018-19 SUNYAC season. They will take on the Medaille Mavericks at 7:00 PM this evening in Brockport.

Brockport has played Medaille 3 times in the past 8 years with the Golden Eagles winning 2 of those games, most recently last year at Medaille where Port won 90-75. Port also won on the last day of 2013 by a score of 66-52. Medaille won 71-68 in the semifinals of the ECAC tournament in 2011. The oddsmakers have listed Brockport as a 10 point favorite in this game.

Medaille and Brockport both return 8 players from last season. They both lost 3 starters. I think the Golden Eagles will win this game but the Mavericks won't be a pushover. I see Brockport winning the YAC's first non-conference game of the season by a final score of 80-73.

Go Brockport!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Brockport defeats Medaille 98-91

I had the Golden Eagles winning this one 80-73 thinking the first game of the season might find the shooting percentages on the low side. That wasn't the case as both teams shot well....Medaille- 44.8% fg, 35.3% 3's, and 73.5% ft....Brockport-48.5% fg, 57.1% 3's, 71% ft.  I did hit the 7 point margin of victory right on the money, though.   

The Golden Eagles jumped out to a 9-0 lead and managed to stay ahead of the Mavericks by a double digit margin for most of the first half. Medaille wouldn't cave in though and after being down 24-12, came back to make it a single possession game at 33-31 with 5:33 left in the period. A 3 pointer by Montgomery Stromen followed by a pair of treys from Tyler Collins restored the double digit lead as Port kept knocking down their shots from long distance. They were 10x14 in the first half from behind the arc, led by Collins who was 5x5, and breezed into the locker room up 60-47 at the break.

The 2nd period started out much like the first one ended, as Brockport extended the lead to 16 points on several occasions. The Golden Eagles held a double digit lead for more than 11 minutes of the half, but again Medaille wouldn't let Brockport put them away. They cut the lead to 79-72 with 8:39 to play and finally got it down to one possession, trailing 92-89 with 1:31 left in the game, after hitting a pair of free throws. The Mavericks actually had a chance for the tie as Brockport missed on their end but Medaille also came up empty on their possession. Justin Summers grabbed the rebound for the Golden Eagles, was fouled and made both free throws to extend the lead to 5 points. A Medaille miss followed by a turnover sealed their fate as Port hit a few more from the line for the final 7 point margin of victory.

Tyler Collins led all scorers with 31 points (12x19 fg, 5x6 3's, 2x3 ft)and filled up the stat sheet that will have him in the conversation for Player of the Week. Tyler had 7 assists, 5 rebounds, 5 steals and a pair of blocks in his 35 minutes of court time.

Josh Nelson had 13 points (5x10 fg, 3x6 3's) 4 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Justin Summers only played 15 minutes due to foul trouble but still had 13 points (3x7 fg, 1x1 3's, 6x6 ft) 5 rebounds and 3 blocks.

Davonte Jones added 10 points (2x4 fg, 0x1 3's, 6x6 ft), 3 rebounds and 2 assists in 22 minutes off the bench.

Newcomers to the Brockport team, sophomore, Devante Hagins and freshman Danny Ashley, both contributed 8 points. Hagins also had a team high 8 rebounds and added 3 assists. Ashley dished out 3 assists and had 2 steals.

Brockport will return to action when they host the Morrisville State Mustangs on Tuesday November 13th at 7:30 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2018, 04:53:24 PM
Two games on tap today


Nov. 10

Cortland        Elmira

This one should be a win for the Red Dragons but Elmira surprised some YAC teams last year so Cortland better bring their A game. Cortland is favored by 13 points in this one but I think it will be closer than that. Cortland wins 94-89.



Keystone        SUNY Oneonta

Oneonta is a young team that came on strong at the end of last season.  They beat Keystone last year 97-85 and are favored to win this game by a 9 point margin. I think they win it by a baker's dozen...Oneonta 97 Keystone 84.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 11, 2018, 08:31:27 AM
Cortland 102   Elmira 94

I said the Red Dragons needed to bring their A game to this matchup and they waited nearly all of the first half before showing they had one. They fell behind by double figures at 18-8, 6 minutes into the game, but started to get things going and cut the margin to 24-22 on a jumper by Nicky Bonura. They inched closer when Zach Lydon made a free throw to trail 30-29, but the Soaring Eagles went on an 18-3 run over the next 5 minutes to go in front 48-32 with 3:36 left in the half. That got the Red Dragons' attention and they responded with a 9-0 spurt to end the half, trailing 48-41.

Cortland wasted little time closing the gap once play resumed as Justin Cooper hit a 3 pointer and Kenny Charles made a layup on the next trip down.Over the next 5 minutes the teams traded baskets until Ryan Schmadel  hit a 3, to put the Red Dragons in front 60-59, for the first time since it was 2-0. Cortland then fell behind 64-60 but outscored Elmira 10-2 to go back in front with 10 minutes left to play. Only two more lead changes would take place as the teams traded baskets. Elmira hit a 3 pointer with 7 minutes to play to go in front 74-73, however it was short lived as Cortland's Mike Arias hit a jumper on their next trip down to regain the lead. The Red Dragons managed to go up by 5 points at 82-77 but Elmira fought back to tie the score with 3:44 remaining. Nicky Bonura then hit a jumper and after Elmira missed their next shot, Bonura buried a 3 pointer to build the lead back to five at 87-82. Elmira missed again, and fouled Zach Lydon, who made both free throws. The lead was 7 and Elmira was running out of time. They needed points but instead turned the ball over to Cortland and Bonura made them pay with another 3 ball, which came off an offensive rebound by Justin Cooper. Cooper had a game high 14 boards, which matched his career best. Now down 10 points, 92-82, with just 1:24 left, meant the foul parade was about to begin. Cortland went 10 for 10 from the line to end the game. I imagine that last 84 seconds must have taken quite a long time. 22 points were scored in the last 69 seconds. That may be the highest point total we'll see in the shortest amount of time, all year!

Both teams shot lights out from the field, from behind the arc and from the line.
Cortland was 35x63 (55.6%) from the field and 16x19 from the line (84.2%) Elmira was 35x69 from the field (50.7%) and 9x9 (100%) from the line

Cortland and Elmira combined to make 31 3 pointers in the game...16x35 for Cortland (45.7%) 15x27 for Elmira (55.6%)                   

Cortland won the rebounding battle 36 to 26 but had 12 turnovers to only 7 for Elmira.

Nicky Bonura took scoring honors for the night with 31 points (11x17 fg, 5x10 3's, 4x5 ft). He added 4 assists and 2 rebounds.

Justin Cooper also had a big night with 23 points (6x10 fg, 2x4 3's, 9x10 ft) and 14 rebounds to get his double-double.

Both Nicky and Justin should be in the mix for the Player of the Week award.

Three other players had double figures for the Red Dragons. Ryan Schmadel had 14 points (5x7 fg, 4x5 3's) with 7 rebounds and 2 assists. Ben Walters came off the bench and scored 12 points in 26 minutes of court time. He took 10 shots, all from downtown and made 4 of them, while dishing out a pair of assists. Zach Lydon had 10 points (3x5 fg, 1x2 3's, 3x4 ft) an assist, a steal and a rebound.

Cortland will be back in action on Tuesday, November 13th when they travel to Staten Island to take on Division I opponent, Wagner College.                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 12, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Nice write-ups, magic. I just have to keep reminding myself to come back!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2018, 10:40:47 PM
Thanks Greek. Here's one more I was late on getting up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2018, 10:41:52 PM
Oneonta 91  Keystone 73

I was pretty sure these Red Dragons would win this game by double figures and they didn't let me down. Oneonta opened with the first 2 baskets and only trailed once in the game when Keystone hit a 3 pointer to go in front 7-5. The Red Dragons then scored the next 5 points and were never headed the rest of the way. Slowly they increased their margin until they reached a double digit lead at 30-20 with 8 minutes left in the first period. Keystone cut that lead in half and trailed 34-29 with 5 minutes to play, but that was as close as the Giants would get for the rest of the night. Oneonta ended the half on a 16-5 run to go up 50-36. The 2nd half was a replay of the opening stanza as they maintained a double digit lead that grew to 28 points, 84-56, with 9 minutes to play.

Oneonta outshot the visitors in all 3 categories and pounded them on the boards 58-37. The Giants committed 16 turnovers to 21 for the Red Dragons.

The Red Dragons had 4 players in double figures, led by Sean Nolan, who captured scoring honors with 20 points (8x10 fg, 0x1 3's, 4x7 ft). He added 6 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals.

Kevin Mackin was close behind with 19 points (8x18 fg, 3x8 3's, 0x0 ft) and 4 rebounds.

Ian Schultz had 14 points (4x6 fg, 1x2 3's, 5x6 ft), 7 boards, 2 assists and a block.

Jacob Rodriguez had a double-double off the bench, as he scored 11 points and had 11 rebounds in 22 minutes of court time.

Oneonta will be off until Friday, November 16th when they travel to Susquehanna University for the River Hawks'  Trailways Tipoff Tournament. The Red Dragons will face Grove City College at 6 PM. On Saturday they will play either Susquehanna or Kings College at 1 or 3 PM.

I'm hopeful that the Red Dragons will be bringing home a couple of wins from that road trip.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2018, 06:02:53 AM
Six games on tap for today with 4 teams going to the post for the first time.

Nov. 13   

Cortland State  @  Wagner        7:00 PM

The Red Dragons travel south to Staten Island and take on the Division I Wagner College Seahawks. This is not an exhibition game and will count in Cortland's won-lost record. The point spread on this game has the Seahawks favored by 30 points and if Cortland can keep it around that margin I would consider it a victory. Wagner is 0-2 on the season and just lost in overtime to UMass-Lowell so they will be hungry for a win and won't take pity on their lesser division foe. Especially after Seton Hall spanked the Seahawks by 40 points 89-49 on Saturday.

Wagner wins this one by a 97-53 final. But I hope I'm wrong.   


Geneseo State @  Houghton        7:00 PM

The Knights will be testing some new lineups tonight with the loss of 3 starters from last year's team and another senior that started about half the games. I imagine they will be calling  Zack Panebianco's number as often as they can. He can score in bunches (I watched him put up 34 and 27 in 2 games against Plattsburgh last year) but where else will the offense come from?

Houghton also lost 4 of their top 6 players, so both teams will be trying to figure it out as the season progresses. Geneseo won last year, 85-78 and the oddsmakers have the Knights listed as an 11 point favorite in this game.

I think Geneseo wins by a 77-69 final score

   
New Paltz State  @  Western Connecticut        7:00 PM

The Hawks showed considerable improvement last year as their win total increased from 1 to 7. Hopefully that trend will continue on this year and they can hit double figures in the win column. They did lose several key performers and will need to reload the offense. They open up against Western Connecticut who beat them last year by an 83-75 score. The point spread has the Colonials favored by 7 points and I hope the Hawks can keep it that close. I see New Paltz losing this one by an 88-73 final score but I hope the Hawks prove me wrong.

     
St. Lawrence  @  Potsdam State        7:00 PM

The Bears are another SUNYAC team on the rise as their 11 wins last year equaled the total wins they have had for the preceding 4 years (3, 1, 2 and 5) They were 1 game out of the 6th and final playoff spot and will be in the hunt once again this year as they return just about all their talent.

St. Lawrence is also rebuilding after a disastrous 5-20 season. Getting their big man, Riley Naclerio, back from injury is a good start. They also return a bunch of young players from last year and 6 freshman so it may take a while to get the right mix on the floor. They did handle Potsdam last year in Naclerio's last game before his injury, beating the Bears 89-70. So basically the same two teams will tee it up again, this time in Potsdam.

The point spread favors the Bears by an 80-76 final score. I'll go with my alma mater in this one and take Potsdam to win a close one 77-75.

      
Morrisville State  @  Brockport State        7:30 PM

Brockport has been waiting four and a half years for this game. Finally a chance to avenge a loss to the Mustangs from March 7th, 2014, that took place in the first round of the NCAA tournament that year. In fairness to Brockport, their All American, John Ivy, was injured and didn't play that day. With him they win by 20, without him they lost in triple overtime 83-80.

Don't know much about Moville, other than they beat Canton the other night and they lost 3 starters from last year's team.

The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 10 point favorite in this one but Morrisville might keep it closer. I'm taking Brockport to win a fast paced contest 93-86.       


Plattsburgh State  @ Clarkson        7:00 PM

The Cardinals are coming off one of the most successful seasons in their history and are hoping they can repeat the success they had last year. First up is Clarkson and the Knights should prove to be a good opening game. They have most of their team back from last season and the game is in Clarkson's Alumni Gym. They gave the Cardinals a good battle last year losing 77-70 so pulling off an upset here isn't out of the question.

The point spread on this one is 7 points so the oddsmakers must have checked last years's score to come up with that.  I think the Cardinals win by a few more. Plattsburgh 92 Clarkson 80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 13, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
The MagicMan never ceases to Amaze me.

Up Early posting his predictions for tonight's action.

If there is a Hall of Fame for the D3 Hoops Web Site, The Magicman is a 1st ballot inductee.

The work and effort he puts into the analysis of the games is truly Fantastic.
And his recaps are even Better.

I Hope the Plattsburgh Cardinals win the D3 National Championship for him.

Enjoy the Games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 13, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
   Well alrighty....The magic mans prognostications are all systems go, All Time and the Law Firm are back and even some cameo appearances from Riley 056 and The Greek tragedy have graced the SUNYAC boards. It must be the 1st full week of SUNYAC hoops.  With no less than 20 games this week, we finally see what the 2018 versions of all 10 'Yac teams look like, and with a 3-0 non conference start, I'd say things are looking good in the SUNYAC.  Here's to hoping all "Yac squads go 20-0 this week.

   There's one squad in particular that I'm REALLY interested in seeing perform this week. In case if you haven't guessed it, its those BENGALS from Buffalo State. I've been a fan of these kids for the past 14 years. However I can't ever remember a tougher opener than the 1 facing the BENGALS this Saturday. Their 1st opponent is John Carroll.The Blue Streak are currently ranked #20th in D3 Hoops and the #7 ranked  as the best D3 team according to Massey. Their conference (Ohio Athletic Conference) is currently the 4th ranked conference in all of Div 3 basketball, according to Massey (SUNYAC is rated 28th)! With 2 of the BENGALS 1st 3 opponents (John Carroll and St John Fisher) ranked above them (BSC), according to Massey, it shouldn't take too long to see what my boys are made of.

  Having snuck a glimpse of  my BENGALS in 2 scrimmages, versus Hilbert and D'Youville, I'm extremely excited about what this season team can do. Words like "Deep"...."Scappy".... "Chemistry" and "Athletic" come to mind when assessing the BUFF State team for 2018-19. As we all know...words are cheap and ACTION will ALWAYS speak louder than words! So here's to hoping that names like Kay Grant, Ryniek "Doc" Holloway (sounds like Doc Holiday...but Holloway is tougher), Dom Grayer, Yosh Bernardez, KJ Holmes, "Big Z" Zion Milton, "Machine Gun" Zak Ciezki, Sheldon Adams, Steven Calvo and the rest of the 2018-19 BUFFALO STATE BENGALS team can make Buffalo Ny, SUNYAC  and D3 followers nationwide.. believe in their ACTION . I believe that they can be that good.

On a side SUNYAC (Womens) note.... Buffalo State's  - Princesss McCullough scored 25 points (10 OF 15 from the field)), pulled down 21 rebounds (4th best total in BENGAL single game history) AND 6 blocks versus Morrisville...and yet not even a mention on the D3 Hoops "Team of The week' although no member of that team of the week has stats that that can compare to McCulloughs??!!?!  Hoping that Pat Coleman, Magicman, The Bear, FranElia or someone can offer some advice. Hoping that its not that dreaded BB (Bengal Bias) that prevented her from being recognized
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2018, 07:58:36 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 13, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
   On a side SUNYAC (Womens) note.... Buffalo State's  - Princesss McCullough scored 25 points (10 OF 15 from the field)), pulled down 21 rebounds (4th best total in BENGAL single game history) AND 6 blocks versus Morrisville...and yet not even a mention on the D3 Hoops "Team of The week' although no member of that team of the week has stats that that can compare to McCulloughs??!!?!  Hoping that Pat Coleman, Magicman, The Bear, FranElia or someone can offer some advice. Hoping that its not that dreaded BB (Bengal Bias) that prevented her from being recognized

Check and see if the SID reported it to D3hoops. Most of the time when a stat line like that doesn't get mentioned is because the player wasn't nominated by the school's SID. It's not always D3hoops missing the boat.

That was a pretty good game by that young lady and certainly should have merited a TOTW nod.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2018, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 13, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
The MagicMan never ceases to Amaze me.

Up Early posting his predictions for tonight's action.

If there is a Hall of Fame for the D3 Hoops Web Site, The Magicman is a 1st ballot inductee.

The work and effort he puts into the analysis of the games is truly Fantastic.
And his recaps are even Better.

I Hope the Plattsburgh Cardinals win the D3 National Championship for him.

Enjoy the Games


All-Time,

You are too kind, but thank you for those thoughts. I'll settle for that National Championship.

Days like today will probably get short changed as there are too many of them with too many games and I can't spend as much time as I used to. The magicman will be slowing down a bit this year. I'll post recaps of the Cardinal games and other big matchups  but will probably miss many of the games due to time constraints.

Hope everyone in the YAC has a good year and we win most of our non-conference games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2018, 08:57:54 PM
Plattsburgh State defeats Clarkson 105-95
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 13, 2018, 09:32:01 PM
Potsdam 90, St. Lawrence 77.  Potsdam led by Dante Langley with 25 with 5 players in double figures.  Luke Hicks led the Saints with 21.  Riley Naclerio coming back from injury had 17 first half points for the Saints, and finished with 18...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 13, 2018, 09:38:32 PM
Fair play to Potsdam, they looked legit.  SLU is still reeling from the graduation of Edwards and Kobis.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
Brockport State defeats Morrisonville State by a 96-77 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2018, 09:56:23 PM
Final scores

Cortland State 58  Wagner College 90


New Paltz State 74  Western Connecticut 90


Geneseo State 81  Houghton 46
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on November 13, 2018, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 13, 2018, 07:58:36 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 13, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
   On a side SUNYAC (Womens) note.... Buffalo State's  - Princesss McCullough scored 25 points (10 OF 15 from the field)), pulled down 21 rebounds (4th best total in BENGAL single game history) AND 6 blocks versus Morrisville...and yet not even a mention on the D3 Hoops "Team of The week' although no member of that team of the week has stats that that can compare to McCulloughs??!!?!  Hoping that Pat Coleman, Magicman, The Bear, FranElia or someone can offer some advice. Hoping that its not that dreaded BB (Bengal Bias) that prevented her from being recognized

Check and see if the SID reported it to D3hoops. Most of the time when a stat line like that doesn't get mentioned is because the player wasn't nominated by the school's SID. It's not always D3hoops missing the boat.

That was a pretty good game by that young lady and certainly should have merited a TOTW nod.   

I was under the belief that there wasn't a Team of the Week this past week. I went into the system to nominate Nicky Bonura and there were no options available for basketball (just football and ice hockey). I will check with Pat Coleman to see why this happened. I'm disappointed, but I assume it was just some sort of technical glitch. -- Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on November 13, 2018, 10:37:29 PM
And I just checked the site - there's no Team of the Week posted for this week. The last one posted was for last February. Bengals, if you have a link to the newest Team of the Week (if there is one), please post it here. Otherwise, I don't think there was one this past week. Thanks. -- Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 13, 2018, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: FranElia on November 13, 2018, 10:37:29 PM
And I just checked the site - there's no Team of the Week posted for this week. The last one posted was for last February. Bengals, if you have a link to the newest Team of the Week (if there is one), please post it here. Otherwise, I don't think there was one this past week. Thanks. -- Fran

Yeah - we don't have a Team of the Week as of yet. There hasn't been enough games.

I believe it will be next week for the first one? Pat tweeted something last week, so I'd have to go find it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on November 13, 2018, 10:45:16 PM
Thanks Dave. No need to go searching - I trust you!! Good to know that I (and others) didn't miss out on nominations. -- Fran
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 13, 2018, 10:49:40 PM
Quote from: FranElia on November 13, 2018, 10:45:16 PM
Thanks Dave. No need to go searching - I trust you!! Good to know that I (and others) didn't miss out on nominations. -- Fran

Yeah ... with the slow start to the season, due to the earlier start, things are "off" as a result. The next Top 25 isn't even coming out until the Monday after Thanksgiving, either (there are five Thursdays this month, making it more interesting as well).

Per searching ... I wanted to double-check which week it started. It is this upcoming Monday (prior to Thanksgiving): https://twitter.com/d3hoops/status/1062091594604691456
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2018, 11:13:32 PM
I had just finished typing a post that stated: I think our friend from Buffalo was looking at last year's Team of the Week from February and mistakenly thought it was this year's first weekly TOTW. I hit post only to spot the new posts from Fran and Dave (Sounds like a rock group I knew).

As Dave stated, with the earlier, odd start this year it didn't make sense to me that D3hoops would have a TOTW so early. Last year's first TOTW was from Nov. 15th through Nov. 26th. I figured this year it would be Nov. 8th through the 18th.

EDIT:  I just noticed that the SUNYAC had a Player of the Week for  both men and women for the week ending November 11th. The men only had 3 games scheduled and the women had 6 but they still gave out the weekly award. The Buffalo State player that Bengalsrule referred to was Princella McCullough and she did win the SUNYAC Player of the Week award. That was probably what sent our Bengal friend to the D3hoops site to see if she had made their weekly Team of The Week. Easy to think if we had awards after a short week so would they, but we know the YAC has their system and D3hoops has a slightly different one. They are both consistent to what has been done in the past. No harm...no foul!!! (Except Fran must have experienced a few anxious moments) ;D 



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2018, 01:34:17 AM
As I suspected, Tyler Collins is the first winner of the SUNYAC Player of the Week award for the 2018-19 season.  Here is the write up from the YAC website:

"CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected Brockport senior Tyler Collins (Newark, N.Y.) as this season's first recipient to be named the Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Collins was the star of a Golden Eagles offense that was two points shy of the century mark on Friday when they earned their first win of the season, 98-91, against Medaille College. The guard scored a career-high 31 points in 35 minutes of play, shooting 12-for-19 from the field and 5-for-6 from three point range, and was 2-for-3 from the free-throw line. The senior also got his teammates involved with seven assists, and nabbed five rebounds. Collins was tenacious on defense as well, recording five steals and two blocks."

Congratulations to Tyler on a great game.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 14, 2018, 02:05:24 AM
Quote from: FranElia on November 13, 2018, 10:37:29 PM
And I just checked the site - there's no Team of the Week posted for this week. The last one posted was for last February. Bengals, if you have a link to the newest Team of the Week (if there is one), please post it here. Otherwise, I don't think there was one this past week. Thanks. -- Fran

Thanks Fran..Pat...Magicman.  Hopefully one of you can recommend Princella at the appropriate time!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2018, 06:23:46 AM
Plattsburgh State 105   Clarkson 95

I had the Cardinals winning by a 92-80 final in this one but lots of fouls added 20 points to the totals in the last 90 seconds. The spread was pretty close though.

Plattsburgh allowed Clarkson to have an early 4-0 lead but after that it was all Plattsburgh the rest of the way. This game, at times, looked like it was going to be a blowout as the Cardinals had a 12 point lead halfway through the first period, but the Golden Knights refused to fold and Plattsburgh could never quite put them away. The Cardinals went up by 13 on a jumper by Nick DeAngelis for their largest first half lead with 7:51 left in the period but 2 minutes later after a pair of Clarkson trifectas the lead was down to 5. It was only at 4 with 1:08 to go when DeAngelis drained a 3 pointer and the Cardinals' Ian Howard stole the ball. He fed Brandon Johnson who slammed it home to end the half with Plattsburgh up by 9 at 45-36.

Most of the 2nd period had the Cardinals attaining a healthy lead only to have Clarkson narrow the gap. The lead went from 15 at 16;53 down to 6 at 11:53. It zoomed back up to 20 by the 5:21 mark and that margin proved to be too much for Clarkson to overcome. They got as close as 7 points but the Cardinals closed them out at the line.

Plattsburgh shot 36x64 from the field (56.3%), 7x16 from 3 point range (43.8%) and 26x36 (72.2%) from the stripe.

Clarkson was 31x70 (44.3%) from the field, 16x40 from long distance (40%) and 17x23 (73.9%) from the line.   

Clarkson had 37 rebounds and 18 turnovers. The Cardinals had 36 rebounds and 13 turnovers.

Brandon Johnson led 3 Cardinals in double figures and captured scoring honors with a career high (I think) 28 points (10x18 fg, 1x2 3's, 7x12 ft). He also had 4 assists and a block.

Jon Patron just missed his usual double-double with 27 points (8x12 fg, 4x6 3's, 7x11 ft) and 9 rebounds. He added 2 assists and a steal.

Nick DeAngelis came off the bench and scored 23 points (7x13 fg, 2x7 3's, 7x7 ft) in 25 minutes . He grabbed 5 boards and had1 assist.

Ian Howard had a game high 10 rebounds to go along with his 6 points. He added 2 assists and 2 steals.

Isaiah Hill added 8 points on 4x6 from the field, with 2 rebounds a block and a steal.

Plattsburgh is right back in action on Wednesday night as they host Liberty League power, Skidmore, in a 7:00 PM meeting.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2018, 08:19:17 AM
Nov. 14
Two games on the docket for tonight.    

Fredonia State  @  D'Youville        7:00 PM

The Blue Devils lost a lot from a team that did not have a good year last season. They have brought in 10 new players, 6 freshmen and four transfers. Hopefully the transfers can bring it because they need it now. I'm picking them to lose this game even though they are playing a team that hasn't beaten them since 2007. D'Youville has lost the last 6 times they've met going back to 2007. They were supposed to play last season on the Spartans home court but it was postponed and never made up. So I guess we could say this is a game two years in the making.

Don't know much about D'Youville except they are 1-1 and hung with Alfred last time out. The oddsmakers have Fredonia listed as a 3 point favorite. I can't take the Blue Devils until they show me they can win. I think the Spartans win at home in a close one.
D'Youville 73 Fredonia 69.       

Love to be wrong and have Fredonia open with a win. Go Blue Devils!       


Skidmore  @  Plattsburgh State        7:00 PM   The Game of the Week

The rubber match between these two teams. They have met for the past 4 years and each has won 2 games. 3 of those 4 games were played in Saratoga on the Thoroughbreds home track. The Cardinals managed to win 1 there and beat the Ponies when they came to Plattsburgh, 2 years ago. Last year they won in Saratoga, handily, but we didn't have our go to guy, Jon Patron. Hopefully the Cardinals will be up for the challenge. Plattsburgh is playing their 2nd game in 2 days while Skidmore had a game last Saturday at home against Muhlenberg. They won that game 75-69.

Skidmore returns more of their lineup from last year than Plattsburgh does, including their All American candidate Edvinas Rupkus. They were picked in their league's coaches poll to come in 2nd in the standings behind Hobart but I can see Skidmore winning the Liberty League. Last year was disappointing for them because they had high expectations but after starting out 6-0, they dropped a couple of non- conference games then suffered some inexplicable losses to teams near the bottom of the conference.  After beating Hobart in the conference tournament semifinals they lost to Union in the championship game and didn't go dancing. Union did and ultimately ended up in Plattsburgh where we beat them 87-75 to advance to the Sweet 16.

The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 9 point favorite. I would have thought the point spread would have been smaller, no more than 5. I'll take Plattsburgh to win this one by a score of 92-87.

Go Cardinals!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 14, 2018, 01:42:47 PM
Congrats to the P Burgh cards for keeping the "nearly undefeated" (damn new paltz)   'Yac non conference streak rolling (7-1). Not sure where Brandon Johnson found all his new scoring power (averaged under 9 a game last year), but he sure picked a good time to come through. Hope he is just as hot when they take on Liberty league #2 (predicted) Skidmore tonight! Hoping that he doesn't slow down (until Jan 12th).  Currently the Liberty League is ranked higher than the SUNYAC so a inter-east divisional conference win (say that 3 times real  fast) should bode well for our overall conference standing!

Also count me in the the Go "Blue Devils" list as I'm hoping the former Canisius College legend Phil Seymour, gets his season started out with a win tonight vs D'Youville. I saw DYouville in a scrimmage 2 weeks ago and a Fredonia victory would not surprise me!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 14, 2018, 10:51:31 PM
Yac goes 1-1 tonight for an impressive 8-2 ( I'm not counting Cortlands game at D 1 Wagner) non conference record! Plattsburgh must be butter....because they are on a ROLL! ;D

8 teams gets a piece of the action this weekend !  I can't wait 😊
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2018, 06:15:18 AM
Plattsburgh State 83  Skidmore 78

Plattsburgh scored first and scored last to hold off the Skidmore Thoroughbreds in an exciting game at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. With both teams hoping to enter post season play this year the winner of this game could have a leg up if an at large bid is needed for entry to the NCAA tournament. Last year in an early season matchup, Brockport defeated Hobart, who was the regular season champion of the Liberty League (but lost in the playoffs) and as a result Brockport went dancing with an at large bid, while the Statesmen stayed home. So this game may be pivotal down the road.

The Cardinals were never headed in this contest but they couldn't put away a talented and big Skidmore team. Strong first half play by starters Isaiah Hill with 11 points, and Chris Middleton with 8 points kept Plattsburgh slightly ahead of their opponents for most of the period. A trio of 3 pointers from Nick DeAngelis kept the Ponies at bay on several occasions when they were close to overtaking the Cardinals. Plattsburg's Jon Patron had trouble scoring inside as the size and double teams of the Skidmore bigs limited him to just 2 points. He was also called for 2 early fouls which cut into his court time. Not to worry though, as the rest of the team came to play and with their leading scorer on the bench, the Cardinals nursing a 4 point lead, 24-20, at the 5 minute mark, got a jumper from Middleton, a 3 pointer from Hill, and another trey from Brandon Johnson. Just like that the lead was 12 points and just as quickly it disappeared as Skidmore got back to back three's from Edvinas Rupkus and Jack Bryne. Another score by the Ponies cut the lead to 4 and the half ended with Plattsburgh up 37-33.

Skidmore opened the 2nd half with consecutive baskets inside, to tie the game at 37, but Plattsburgh scored 5 straight points on a basket by Hill and a 3 ball by Patron. After a Skidmore bucket, Brandon Johnson scored 5 straight points on a 3 pointer and a fast break dunk. The Cards had an 8 point advantage that reached double digits once again, when Johnson drained another 3 pointer to make it 52-42 with 13:56 to play. The next 4 baskets would come from behind the arc and 3 of them belonged to the Thoroughbreds. The lead was down to 4 and it was game on, once again. The lead would fluctuate between 2 points and 8 points the rest of the way. Crunch time came with just over 6 minutes to go, when the Cardinals nursing a 2 point lead, got a free throw from Middleton, a jumper from Johnson, and a free throw from Patron, to go up by 6. Skidmore scored in the paint and Patron answered in the paint. Rupkus hit a pair from the line and Patron answered that with another inside basket. Skidmore came down needing to score and misfired. They grabbed the offensive board, missed again, and that started the foul parade as Plattsburgh closed them out hitting 6 of 8 from the line.

Plattsburgh was 27x70 (38.6%) from the field, 11x29 (37.9%) from 3 point range, and 18x28 (64.3%) from the line.

Skidmore was 26x54 (48.1%) from the field, 10x24 (41.7%) from long range and 13x21 (61.9%) from the line.

Plattsburgh had 43 rebounds to 31 for Skidmore.  The Cards had 9 turnovers and Skidmore had 16

Plattsburgh
Brandon Johnson once again led the Cardinals with 18 points (6x18 fg, 3x8 3's, 3x4 ft). He had 4 assists and 3 rebounds.

Jon Patron had 16 points (6x17 fg, 2x5 3's, 2x4 ft) with 14 of them coming on the 2nd half. He added 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks. 2nd night in a row he missed a double-double by a single rebound.

Nick DeAngelis also had 16 points (4x13 fg, 4x10 3's, 4x4 ft), 3 rebounds and 1 assist.

Isaiah Hill scored 13 points (5x8 fg, 1x2 3's, 2x4 ft) with 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

Chris Middleton had 9 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

Ian Howard was the leading rebounder in the game with 14.

Travis Cox came off the bench and contributed 7 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.


Skidmore
Edvinas Rupkus led Skidmore and captured scoring honors with 22 points. He added 10 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Noah Meren had 20 points 2 rebounds, 2 assists, a steal and a block.

Jack Byrne had 12 points hitting 4 of 7 from downtown.

Plattsburgh is now 2-0 and will travel to Canton to take on SUNY Canton on Friday November 16th at 5:00 PM

             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2018, 07:11:13 AM
Fredonia State 77  D'Youville 85

The Blue Devils will have a tough time in the SUNYAC this season so they need to get some wins against teams on their non-conference slate. This was one of them that could have been on the plus side. I said they would lose a close one and hoped I was wrong but they fell behind early and went into the half down 44-35.

The 2nd half was more of the same as the Spartans were in a comfort zone and Fredonia never put on the heat. The lead was mostly double digits and got as high as 16. The Blue Devils cut the margin to 7 points at 62-55, on a 3 pointer by De'Quan Smith with 7:25 to play, but they missed their next 4 shots and the Spartans made 3 layups to go back up by 13 with 5:30 on the clock. The lead was 16 points with 49 seconds left and the Blue Devils did well to cut it to a final margin of 8.

Bediako Nyasa led the Blue Devils with 17 points (7x14 fg, 3x6 3's). He added 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

Cody Johnson had 15 points (7x12 fg, 0x3 3's, 1x2 ft), 5 rebounds and 3 blocks.

Colden George had 10 points (3x4 fg, 3x4 3's, 1x2 ft) with 2 assists a steal and a rebound on 22 minutes off the bench.

The Spartans outshot Fredonia by a slim margin 27x64 (42.2%) to 31x78 (39.7%) and also won the rebounding battle 54 to 39.

Fredonia will be back on the court on Saturday November 17th when they travel to Medaille College to take on Washington and Jefferson College at 2:00 PM

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
Happy Birthday Magicman!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2018, 11:13:44 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
Happy Birthday Magicman!!!

Thank you, my friend.

Hoping my Cardinals can give me a birthday present tonight...a win at Canton.... that is better than the one Mother Nature bestowed on me this morning...about 8 inches of snow. :( 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on November 16, 2018, 01:56:13 PM
Happy birthday Magic Man!! ^.^ Good luck to all Yac' teams in action this weekend! Be good

LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
Nov. 16   Six teams in action today      Snowstorms and vehicle problems leave me no time so just some quick picks today.   


Plattsburgh State   @  SUNY-Canton        5:00 PM

Plattsburgh travels to Canton and the Kangaroos would like to improve upon the 88-58 beating the Cardinals put on them last year. They return most of that team, so do we.  The oddsmakers have listed Plattsburgh as the favorite by 17 points. I think they win by more than that. Plattsburgh 94 Canton 70.


Potsdam State  @  WPI        5:30 PM      Ted Coghlin Memorial Tournament

The Bears find themselves in a tough spot here as they play the home team in the WPI tournament. They are supposed to go meekly into the night so the Engineers can march into the championship game tomorrow. They may not be the fodder that WPI thought it was getting, as Potsdam's starting five can play. WPI is tough though,as they return 8 of their top 9 players from last year, so the Bears will need to bring it. The Engineers have been listed as a 15 point favorite. Not sure if Potsdam can keep it closer.  WPI  wins this one by a final score of 97-84.  Hope I'm wrong about that one. Go Bears.

     
Thiel  @  Geneseo State        6:00 PM   Buzz Ridl Tournament @ Westminster College (New Wilmington, Pa.)

The first of two matchups today, between the SUNYAC and the Presidents Athletic Conference (PAC). The Thiel Tomcats are coming off a 7-17 season and opened up this campaign with 2 double digit losses. Geneseo has a bunch of new faces and is 1-0. They are favored to win this one by 9 points. The YAC is a stronger conference than the PAC. I'll take Geneseo to win 83-71.


Grove City  @  Oneonta State        6:00 PM     @ Selingsgrove, PA.   Susuquehanna University's Tip Off Tournament

The Red Dragons take on the other PAC team The Wolverines from Grove City. The point spread in this one has Oneonta favored by 5 points. I think Oneonta wins by a few more...Red Dragons 87  Grove City 79.
   
SUNY-Maritime  @  New Paltz State        7:00 PM

The Hawks are favored by 10 points in this game. When was the last time you saw that? I think they get it done but only win by 8. Final score... 90-82.


Elmira  @  Oswego State        7:30 PM

This could be an interesting game. Last year Elmira went 4-21 but one of those 4 wins was a defeat of the Lakers in Elmira, 103-90. The Oswego coaching staff would like to erase the taste of that. The Lakers have yet to hit the hardwood this season while Elmira is 1-1. The win is nothing much to talk about, but the loss was to Cortland and at one point they led those Red Dragons by 16 points late in the first half. Cortland ultimately won the game 102-94, but with 3:44 left to play they were tied at 82. Sooooo...the Lakers better not mess around because apparently the Soaring Eagles have some game. The oddsmakers have made Oswego a 17 point favorite. They apparently don't know that Brian Sortino graduated 2 years ago. I like the Lakers to win also but I think it will be closer than that.
Oswego State 87 Elmira 80   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on November 16, 2018, 04:59:26 PM
Ah ha!  Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2018, 06:32:53 PM
Final score   Plattsburgh State 87 Canton 71

Potsdam trails WPI 48-36 with 16:40 left to play.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2018, 07:02:40 PM
Oneonta leads Grove City 52-28 at the half.

Geneseo trails Thiel 31-22 at the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2018, 10:36:04 PM
Yac goes 4 and 2 today. 12-4 non conference to date! 

Go SUNYAC!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2018, 03:48:10 AM
Final scores for Friday November 16th.

Potsdam State 71  WPI 86

Geneseo State 54  Thiel 69

Oneonta State 92 Grove City 60

New Paltz State 77  SUNY-Maritime 73

Oswego State 106 Elmira 67

Plattsburgh State 87  Canton 81
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2018, 11:20:32 AM
Plattsburgh State 87  Canton 81

The Kangaroos led 2-0 and 5-4. After that it was all Plattsburgh State as the Cardinals wasted little time in opening up a double digit margin.  Plattsburgh's Ian Howard scored inside and then the Cardinals' Jon Patron showed off his game as he scored Plattsburgh's next 11 points, from inside, on short jumpers, from behind the arc and from the line. Brandon Johnson scored off a nice feed from Adam Jaquish who then got a steal and a layup of his own. The Cardinals were up by double figures, 23-10 with 12 minutes left in the half. The run would continue with another 14-4 outburst fueled by a pair of 3's from Jeremy Eisenman and 5 points from Johnson. With the score 37-14 Coach Curle went to his bench to give the freshman some playing time. Canton was able to close the gap to 44-29 at the break.

The Roos opened up the 2nd half with an 11-0 run to get within 4 points at 44-40 and Plattsburgh took a time out to regroup. The result was a 26-2 run by the Cardinals to go up 70-42 with 8:25 to go. This time it was Chris Middleton who took over as he scored 14 points in that span draining 3 shots from behind the arc, a layup a free throw and throwing one down as well. Once again the Plattsburgh bench was called upon to finish out the half.

Jon Patron led Plattsburgh with 23 points and 9 rebounds, capturing both scoring and rebounding honors.
Chris Middleton had 20 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists.
Brandon Johnson had 9 points, 7 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal.
Ian Howard had 8 points, 5 rebounds and 2 steals.
Isaiah Hill had 4 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. 

Freshmen players Logan Galanes and Taylor Mason scored their first points in a Cardinal uniform. Logan had 5 points while Taylor had 4 points, 3 boards and a block.

The D3hoops 14th ranked Cardinals improve to 3-0 and will be off until November 27th when they travel to St. Lawrence to take on the Saints at 8:00 PM           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
Nov. 17   Six more game on tap today for SUNYAC teams.  Could be a tough day.


Eastern Connecticut  vs  Potsdam        1:00 PM       Worcester Polytechnic Institute Tournament @ Worcester, MA

Consolation game of the tournament and the Bears are up against another tough team. Eastern Connecticut is picked to once again win the Little East Conference. They have been frequent visitors to the NCAA tournament recently and despite their opening loss yesterday have quite a bit of talent returning. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 13 point favorite. I think the Bears can keep it closer. Eastern Ct. wins this one 85-77. Hope I'm wrong.  Go Bears.


Fredonia State  vs  Washington and Jefferson        2:00 PM       @ Medaille College / Buffalo, N.Y.

Fredonia once again listed as the favorite, this time by 6 points. Like the Blue Devils, Wash and Jeff hasn't had much success in recent years either. They are 1-2 this year with a win over Medaille yesterday.  Medaille hung with Brockport so the Presidents may have the upper hand in this one. I'll take Washington and Jefferson to win a close one 76-72   


   
Oneonta State  @  Susquehanna        3:00 PM

The Red Dragon are listed as a 1 point favorite in this one. Don't know much about the River Hawks other than the fact they return 4 starters from last year's 10-14 season. I still like Oneonta to walk off the River Hawks floor with the championship. Red Dragons win this one 86-78 

   
Geneseo State  @  Westminster (Pa.)        4:00 PM

The Knights got handled yesterday and now have to face the host team. The Titans were 19-9 last season and bring back 3 starters. The oddsmakers have made Westminster a slim 3 point favorite. I'm hoping the Knights can win this one but I think it will be Westminster winning by a 73-68 final.

   
SUNYIT  @  Oswego State        4:00 PM

The Lakers opened the season with a 39 point win over Elmira. Will we see more of the same today? Last year the Wildcats hung with some pretty good teams and finished the season at 19-8. They opened up with a win over SUNY-Purchase yesterday and they could surprise the Lakers. The point spread shows the Lakers to be 8 point favorites. That sounds about right.   Oswego 88 SUNYIT 78 

           
John Carroll  @  Buffalo State        6:00 PM

Buffalo State finally gets their season in gear...they may have picked the wrong time. The Blue Streaks will be a tough opening matchup for a young team. The oddsmakers have John Carroll favored by 22 points. I'm hoping the Bengals can keep it closer than that.
John Carroll wins this one 96-84.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2018, 03:02:15 PM
Potsdam loses to Eastern Connecticut 89-81.

Good game for the Bears against a decent team. I had them losing 85-77 and with 30 seconds to go in the game the score was 85-77. The Bears fouled twice, the Warriors made the free throws and Potsdam scored on each of their final 2 possessions. So I was pretty close. Did get the 8 point margin of victory right on the money.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2018, 05:08:04 PM
Oneonta easily defeats Susuquehanna 84-61.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
1st game of the season less than an hour away. It always seems like the off-season is gonna last forever ( anyone have that feeling?). And then the next thing you know.  Next season is here.  The magic one is oh so right .  BENGALS have one heck of an opener tonight vs #20 John Carroll.  I watched JC last night play Johnson and Wales and the Blue Streak just come at you in waves!  Every 4/5 mins wholesale subs.  Usually shooting with the 1st 10 seconds of the shot clock.

Call me a homer but I believe that my BENGALS can hang. I'm sitting in the gym already

Go BENGALS !!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 17, 2018, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
1st game of the season less than an hour away. It always seems like the off-season is gonna last forever ( anyone have that feeling?). And then the next thing you know.  Next season is here.  The magic one is oh so right .  BENGALS have one heck of an opener tonight vs #20 John Carroll.  I watched JC last night play Johnson and Wales and the Blue Streak just come at you in waves!  Every 4/5 mins wholesale subs.  Usually shooting with the 1st 10 seconds of the shot clock.

Call me a homer but I believe that my BENGALS can hang. I'm sitting in the gym already

Go BENGALS !!!

99-94 JCU. Nice effort by Buff State, looks like free throws were the difference. Forced a lot of turnovers against a ranked opponent, Dom Grayer with 39 points on 8-11 from distance.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on November 17, 2018, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 17, 2018, 05:11:51 PM
1st game of the season less than an hour away. It always seems like the off-season is gonna last forever ( anyone have that feeling?). And then the next thing you know.  Next season is here.  The magic one is oh so right .  BENGALS have one heck of an opener tonight vs #20 John Carroll.  I watched JC last night play Johnson and Wales and the Blue Streak just come at you in waves!  Every 4/5 mins wholesale subs.  Usually shooting with the 1st 10 seconds of the shot clock.

Call me a homer but I believe that my BENGALS can hang. I'm sitting in the gym already

Go BENGALS !!!

99-94 JCU. Nice effort by Buff State, looks like free throws were the difference. Forced a lot of turnovers against a ranked opponent, Dom Grayer with 39 points on 8-11 from distance.

Yessir Caz. It definitely was a good 1. Free throws were the difference. BENGALS missed 12, Blue streak missed 7. Fought back from 2 second half double digit deficits to tie it at 80 with about 5 left in the game, and to within 1 with 23 seconds left.  Just couldn't close the deal. Give John Carroll credit. They made their free throws down the stretch. And we didn't.  Hats off to the Blue streak.  When all is said and done put me in the Impressed category when it comes to this upstart BENGALS team. Dom Grayers 39 were impressive however newcomer Kay Grants 8 for 8 from the line combined with a 14 and 14 double double ( pts and rebounds) and 3 steals was almost as impressive.

Cant wait till tomorrow at 2! 

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2018, 12:21:36 AM
Final scores for Saturday Nov 17th. The YAC goes 3-3

Potsdam State 81 Eastern Connecticut 89

Oneonta 84 Susquehanna 61

Oswego State 93  SUNY Poly (used to be SUNYIT) 65

Fredonia 64 Washington and Jefferson 73

Geneseo 63 Westminster (Pa,) 58

Buffalo State 94  #20 John Carroll 99 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2018, 09:19:28 AM
November 18th           Just a single game on the schedule for today

Brooklyn College  @  Buffalo State        2:00 PM


It's the Bengals vs the Bulldogs in the consolation game of the Buff State Coles Classic Tournament. The Bengals gave a good account of themselves yesterday, in their season opener, as the loss to #20 John Carroll could have gone either way. Buff State fought back every time the Blue Streaks made a run and in the end it came down to the final few possessions. If the Bengals can come close to that effort today, they should be able to even their record.

Brooklyn College is 2-1 and lost by 9 points yesterday to Johnson and Wales, a team that John Carroll beat on Friday by 9 points. The Bulldogs played the  St Thomas Tommies last Thursday and were 25 point underdogs. They won that game, upsetting the former National Champions 78-77 (the Tommies were National Champs in 2015-16 and 2010-11). 

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 9 point favorite. I'm not sure Dom Grayer can go off for 39 points again so I'm taking the Bengals but I think it will be a little closer. Buffalo State wins this one 85-80.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 18, 2018, 06:11:35 PM
Buffalo State falls to Brooklyn College 86-83

The Bengals fought back from 10 points down with 4:34 to go, to close to within a single point at 84-83, with 38 seconds to play. They needed a stop but didn't get it. They had a shot to tie the game at the end but it didn't go down. Another tough loss.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on November 18, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 17, 2018, 11:20:32 AM
Plattsburgh State 87  Canton 81

The Kangaroos led 2-0 and 5-4. After that it was all Plattsburgh State as the Cardinals wasted little time in opening up a double digit margin.  Plattsburgh's Ian Howard scored inside and then the Cardinals' Jon Patron showed off his game as he scored Plattsburgh's next 11 points, from inside, on short jumpers, from behind the arc and from the line. Brandon Johnson scored off a nice feed from Adam Jaquish who then got a steal and a layup of his own. The Cardinals were up by double figures, 23-10 with 12 minutes left in the half. The run would continue with another 14-4 outburst fueled by a pair of 3's from Jeremy Eisenman and 5 points from Johnson. With the score 37-14 Coach Curle went to his bench to give the freshman some playing time. Canton was able to close the gap to 44-29 at the break.

The Roos opened up the 2nd half with an 11-0 run to get within 4 points at 44-40 and Plattsburgh took a time out to regroup. The result was a 26-2 run by the Cardinals to go up 70-42 with 8:25 to go. This time it was Chris Middleton who took over as he scored 14 points in that span draining 3 shots from behind the arc, a layup a free throw and throwing one down as well. Once again the Plattsburgh bench was called upon to finish out the half.

Jon Patron led Plattsburgh with 23 points and 9 rebounds, capturing both scoring and rebounding honors.
Chris Middleton had 20 points, 6 rebounds and 3 assists.
Brandon Johnson had 9 points, 7 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal.
Ian Howard had 8 points, 5 rebounds and 2 steals.
Isaiah Hill had 4 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. 

Freshmen players Logan Galanes and Taylor Mason scored their first points in a Cardinal uniform. Logan had 5 points while Taylor had 4 points, 3 boards and a block.

The D3hoops 14th ranked Cardinals improve to 3-0 and will be off until November 27th when they travel to St. Lawrence to take on the Saints at 8:00 PM         

St. Lawrence will provide a test; they have some size, play a good zone but 11-23 FTs, 3-14 3s, 29 turnovers proved their undoing today against Scranton.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2018, 12:39:12 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 18, 2018, 06:11:35 PM
Buffalo State falls to Brooklyn College 86-83

The Bengals fought back from 10 points down with 4:34 to go, to close to within a single point at 84-83, with 38 seconds to play. They needed a stop but didn't get it. They had a shot to tie the game at the end but it didn't go down. Another tough loss.

"Tough loss" indeed.  To be honest when that last 3 pt attempt left Dom Grayers hand I just knew it was gonna be good and my BENGALS would be going into overtime !  Alas it wasn't and so it ends!

There were some encouraging things but a loss is...... a loss. 48 hours to get ready for St John Fisher.

Yac is 15-8 in non conference vs d3 teams. Empire 8 is 11-9 in non conference and Liberty league is 12-12.   Here's to hoping my BENGALS can get out of thier funk and get a W against a good 2 - 0 Fisher squad!  Give coach Ansari credit. Starting the season vs 3 teams with a combined 5-1 record puts it right up front and let's your team know what they need to work on to get better.  In hindsight had the BENGALS hit those last min shots the past 2 days and won, they probably would have a false sense of security.   I'm hoping that the basketball Gods know what they are doing

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 19, 2018, 09:12:20 AM

Brooklyn beat St. Thomas the other night, so they might actually be better than expected.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2018, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 19, 2018, 09:12:20 AM

Brooklyn beat St. Thomas the other night, so they might actually be better than expected.

Thanks Ryan. That' good to know!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 19, 2018, 02:12:37 PM
Magicman  Wishing you a Happy Birthday.

Wishing you a year filled with Health and Happiness and of course a National Championship.

The Cardinals are off to a Great Start. Looks like a nice they will be playing long into March.

Enjoy the RIDE

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2018, 05:36:40 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 19, 2018, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 19, 2018, 09:12:20 AM

Brooklyn beat St. Thomas the other night, so they might actually be better than expected.

Thanks Ryan. That' good to know!

Apparently you or Ryan didn't read this which I posted 5 hours before the game tipped off. ;D

Quote from: magicman on November 18, 2018, 09:19:28 AM
November 18th           Just a single game on the schedule for today

Brooklyn College  @  Buffalo State        2:00 PM


It's the Bengals vs the Bulldogs in the consolation game of the Buff State Coles Classic Tournament. The Bengals gave a good account of themselves yesterday, in their season opener, as the loss to #20 John Carroll could have gone either way. Buff State fought back every time the Blue Streaks made a run and in the end it came down to the final few possessions. If the Bengals can come close to that effort today, they should be able to even their record.

Brooklyn College is 2-1 and lost by 9 points yesterday to Johnson and Wales, a team that John Carroll beat on Friday by 9 points. The Bulldogs played the  St Thomas Tommies last Thursday and were 25 point underdogs. They won that game, upsetting the former National Champions 78-77 (the Tommies were National Champs in 2015-16 and 2010-11). 

The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 9 point favorite. I'm not sure Dom Grayer can go off for 39 points again so I'm taking the Bengals but I think it will be a little closer. Buffalo State wins this one 85-80.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2018, 05:42:56 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes from Bengalsrule, The Law Firm, AllStar, and All-Time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2018, 05:57:02 PM
Nov. 19    Just a single team in action tonight and it doesn't count in their record. 

Oneonta State at Division I Albany State Great Danes   7:00 PM

The Red Dragons have done this before and have managed to hang with the D1 boys for a while. Not sure how good Albany is this year but the oddsmakers have made them a 36 point favorite. Losing to a D1 team by only 36 points could be considered a pretty good effort.
I hope Oneonta can keep the Great Danes under a hundred and manage to put 70 or more of their own points on the board. Or they could just pull a Chaminade! ;D I wouldn't mind.   Albany wins this one 94-64.

This is an exhibition game for Oneonta but counts for Albany.

Go Red Dragons!!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2018, 09:14:53 PM
Oneonta 62  D I Albany 79

Oneonta hung with the Great Danes as they only trailed 32-27 at the half. Only losing by 17 points is a win in my book.

Good job Red Dragons!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2018, 12:09:22 AM
Congrats to Brandon Johnson ( Plattsburgh) on becoming the 2nd SUNYAC  player of the week this season. I would have given 2 to 1 odds that Dom Grayers 28.5 pts per game average in his first 2 games would  have sealed the deal, but alas there are greater basketball minds than mine that thought different.  Congrats to Mr. Johnson.

Hopefully Dom's SUNYAC leading 28.5 will get some D3 hoops team of the week recognition!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 20, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Well, Grayer did score 39 against John Carroll and only 18 against Brooklyn. JCU isn't a "system" team, but...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on November 20, 2018, 12:02:13 PM
But what Greek Tragedy? BengalsRule - I also thought Grayer posted the stats to give him the nod, but I feel that he will get it down the road if he continues to shoot the ball so well. Bengals fought this weekend, played some tough opponents and I see a lot of new names on this roster, good to see they are meshing well. This may come off as biased, but with those Bengals being the team I support, I feel that some folks here are looking past them (eh hem, Magic one) and writing their post season off before conference play begins. BIG MISTAKE. Plattsburgh holding it down for the YAC, keeping their record unbeaten and ranking. Did notice a familiar name on a new roster this year, Quin Carey transferred from Geneseo to Oswego could prove to be HUGE for the Lakers and Jason Corleone, I mean Leone ;-) Just having some fun guys be good and happy thanksgiving to all

LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2018, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 20, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Well, Grayer did score 39 against John Carroll and only 18 against Brooklyn. JCU isn't a "system" team, but...

39 plus 18 equals 57 pts in 2 games. A feat unmatched so far for anyone in SUNYAC's first 2 games! Not bad for 2 games no matter how you slice it up, nor who you scored them against!  Greek tragedy, here's to hoping you will be sticking around the SUNYAC boards this season!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 20, 2018, 12:32:44 PM
Obviously the boys on D3hoops agreed with the YAC guys.

https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2018-19/week1

I'll probably stick around...I do have Plattsburgh St. in the Final Four and Patron in my fantasy league.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2018, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2018, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 20, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Well, Grayer did score 39 against John Carroll and only 18 against Brooklyn. JCU isn't a "system" team, but...

39 plus 18 equals 57 pts in 2 games. A feat unmatched so far for anyone in SUNYAC's first 2 games! Not bad for 2 games no matter how you slice it up, nor who you scored them against!  Greek tragedy, here's to hoping you will be sticking around the SUNYAC boards this season!

Have to believe Dom Grayer was under consideration along with Brandon Johnson for the Player of the Week.

Greek Tragedy was referring to the fact that John Carroll plays a fast game and shoots quickly and while they aren't quite a "Grinnell system" type of team they are close. If you are going to score a lot of points in a game, they would be a team where you'd have a chance to do so. Still you have to make the shots and Dom certainly did against John Carroll, to put up 39.

I think the deciding factor in Brandon receiving the award instead of Dom was the fact that Plattsburgh was 3-0 for the week and the Bengals were 0-2. That has to carry some weight.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2018, 01:13:31 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 20, 2018, 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 20, 2018, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 20, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Well, Grayer did score 39 against John Carroll and only 18 against Brooklyn. JCU isn't a "system" team, but...

39 plus 18 equals 57 pts in 2 games. A feat unmatched so far for anyone in SUNYAC's first 2 games! Not bad for 2 games no matter how you slice it up, nor who you scored them against!  Greek tragedy, here's to hoping you will be sticking around the SUNYAC boards this season!

Have to believe Dom Grayer was under consideration along with Brandon Johnson for the Player of the Week.

Greek Tragedy was referring to the fact that John Carroll plays a fast game and shoots quickly and while they aren't quite a "Grinnell system" type of team they are close. If you are going to score a lot of points in a game, they would be a team where you'd have a chance to do so. Still you have to make the shots and Dom certainly did against John Carroll, to put up 39.

I think the deciding factor in Brandon receiving the award instead of Dom was the fact that Plattsburgh was 3-0 for the week and the Bengals were 0-2. That has to carry some weight.

Understood. Same thing Coach Glover said. Like I said earlier... 39 points is 39 points. Top scorer for Johnson Wales vs the same John Carroll "system" Saturday was 24 points (15 less than Grayer).  I'm sure that we can all agree that 39 points against ANY D 3 team is no small feat. Especially when the leading scorer for the winning team has 21 points and the team itself (JC)  is top 20 in the nation. I can't allow myself to minimize what Dom did just because of the (system ) he did it against. Ill be watching to see how many other folks get 39 against JC's "system"

That game is over...Johnson is POW. Congrats  again!!!  St John Fisher is next up on the BENGALS agenda.

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2018, 01:24:01 PM
Congratulations to Brandon Johnson who was chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week. Here is the write up from the YAC website:

Nov 19, 2018
CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected Plattsburgh senior Brandon Johnson (Greenburgh, N.Y.) as the Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Brandon Johnson averaged 18.3 points and five assists per game in the Plattsburgh men's basketball 3-0 week to start the season. Johnson recorded a career high of 28 points, had four assists and was 55.6 percent on the floor in their 105-95 season opening win over Clarkson on Tuesday. On Wednesday, the senior led the Cardinals with 18 points and four assists in their 83-75 home opener victory over Skidmore. Johnson scored nine points and had seven assists in the Cardinals 87-71 win over Canton.


Brandon doubled his pleasure as he was also selected to the D3hoops Team of the Week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 20, 2018, 02:12:24 PM
I'm not trying to completely discount Grayer's efforts. But when playing against any type of system, there's a sliding rule in terms of production. My own thought is that whatever a player may average, it's possible he'll produce at least 50% more against a system team. So, if a guy averages 18 a game, he might get 27 or more against a system team. JCU is probably system-light. U of NE, Pacific, Greenville, Grinnell, among others, all run some sort of fast-paced system. Check any of their boxscores and opponents regularly score 30+ a game.

As magicman also mentioned, it helps if your team wins, to receive individual awards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2018, 03:44:05 PM
Nov. 20   Five teams in action tonight   

Brockport State  @  Baruch        5:00 PM

The Golden Eagles are favored by 4 points in this one. Baruch coming into this game off a 13 point win over NYU. I like Brockport to win 80-74.


Clarkson  @  Oswego State        5:30 PM

Lakers looking good early with 2 convincing wins. Clarkson, winless after 3 games all by double digit points. Oddsmakers have Oswego favored by 7 points. I think they win by more than that. Oswego 92 Clarkson 72


Waynesburg  @  Fredonia  State        6:00 PM

Fredonia once again is favored by a slight margin as the spread is 2 points. Waynesburg is in the same conference as the team that just beat the Blue Devils, Washington and Jefferson. Last year Waynesburg was better than W&J. The Yellow Jackets also come into this game 0-2, so somebody gets to put one in the win column today. I'll go with Waynesburg 71-67.  But I hope I'm wrong.   

SUNY Delhi  @  New Paltz State        7:00 PM

The Hawks are favored in this one for the 2nd game in a row and they won last time out. Delhi is not a DIII team in basketball and I know they returned 4 starters. Hawks could come out on the short end. Oddsmakers favor New Paltz by 3 points. I'll take the New Paltz to win 80-75.   


Buffalo State  @  St. John Fisher        7:00 PM

For the 3rd game in a row the Bengals face a tough opponent. Fisher has opened up 2-0 and beat Virginia Wesleyan last Saturday, a team that is usually near the top of their conference. Oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 13 point favorite. I think they'll probably win but I see the Bengals keeping it closer.  St. John Fisher 84 Buffalo State 78. Sure hope I'm wrong though.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2018, 04:27:59 AM
Final scores for Tuesday night games: 

SUNYAC goes 3-2

Buffalo State 94  St. John Fisher 89

Buffalo State, trailing the entire game by as many as 12 points, finally grabs a lead for the first time at 64-63 with 9:36 to play. They played on through 4 ties but never let Fisher get in front again. Tied for the final time at 77 with 2:07 left, the Bengals' Dom Grayer hit a jumper, Zak Ciezki got a steal and Kay Grant scored when he grabbed an offensive rebound off a missed layup. Fisher then went to the line and made 1 of 2, but Ciezki nailed a 3 pointer seconds later, to put the Bengals up by 6 with just 39 seconds to play. Buff State hit 8 of 11 from the line to close out the Cardinals. Nice win for the Bengals and the YAC. Hard to beat a decent Fisher team at Fisher.

The Bengals had 6 players in double figures led by Sheldon Adams, last years SUNYAC Rookie of the Year, with 31 points. Dom Grayer had 13, Kay Grant had 12, Zion Guzman-Milton had 12, Zak Ciezki had 11 and Ryniek Holloway had 10.

Glad I was wrong on this one. I watched the game online and I believe it was my solid rooting for Buffalo State that pulled this one out for the Bengals.  :D


Other scores: 

Oswego State 80   Clarkson  60

New Paltz State 77  SUNY Delhi 74

Brockport State 49  Baruch 61

Fredonia State 78  Waynesburg  81
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 21, 2018, 10:14:19 AM
Is Oswego any good or just beating up on bad competition? Leads the league in scoring at 93 ppg, 20+ assists per game. 15+ 3s a game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2018, 11:35:48 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 21, 2018, 10:14:19 AM
Is Oswego any good or just beating up on bad competition? Leads the league in scoring at 93 ppg, 20+ assists per game. 15+ 3s a game.

I think they have a solid lineup and yes they've had an the easy schedule. But it gets tougher as they will face a good Nazareth team next game, which should tell us a lot, as the Golden Flyers are also 3-0. Oswego's other OOC games are home against St. Lawrence (which they should win) and then travel to Emory at the end of December to play the Eagles in Atlanta. They play Denison the next day which will complete their out of conference schedule. In between Naz and SLU they play 4 SUNYAC games. I could see them going 4-0 in those conference games. I think they will probably finish in one of the top 3 spots in the conference. I'll post the order of finish I think the teams will end up on November 30th.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2018, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2018, 04:27:59 AM


Glad I was wrong on this one. I watched the game online and I believe it was my solid rooting for Buffalo State that pulled this one out for the Bengals.  :D


"My Solid rooting for Buffalo State.."😂😂😂😂
My man.   I can't wait till coaches Glover and Campbell read that one. I wish I could see thier reaction when they run into the Magic one Jan 12th!  It could be special 👀

It definitely was a much needed win and a great time for Sheldon to snap out of his shooting funk .  I can't remember the last time we had 6 in double figures.  Zay Ciezki and Zion Milton were truly the difference makers in the 2nd half with Zak almost meeting his season high in pts and Zion tripling his season high. Not enough can be said about eithers game changing 2nd half defense either!

I imagine that the BENGALS turkey will taste a little better tomorrow after getting that losing taste out of thier mouths. Here's to hoping that all SUNYAC friends and family ( and sometime lurkers) have a blessed and happy Thanksgiving!

Go BENGALS!

GO YAC!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on November 21, 2018, 05:08:14 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2018, 07:12:12 AM
Hope all my D3 friends have a safe and happy Thanksgiving. Not a very warm day here in the North Country. In fact the weatherman is saying it could be a record low for our area on Thanksgiving day. It was just announced by Oswego State graduate Al Roker, on the Today Show, that Macy's Parade will be the coldest one on record. Only 20 degrees in New York City. I feel sorry for all those people. The musicians in all the marching bands and the handlers of those big balloons will be challenged.  They are still not sure if they are going to let the big balloons fly.   I'm staying home, watching some football and resting up from the storms that have hit my area this past week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2018, 04:02:34 PM
Great story here and of course it involves a SUNYAC athlete:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25217131/football-star-shot-chasing-alleged-assailant-thriving-field-again
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2018, 10:57:34 AM
November 24th   Only one game scheduled for today involving SUNYAC teams.

Potsdam State  @  Marywood    3:00 PM

The Bears travel to Scranton Pa. to take on the Pacers in a game that tips off at 3:00 this afternoon. I sure hope the Bears were able to travel down there last night so they don't have buslegs from the long trip.

The Pacers return 3 starters including their top two scorers from last year's 15-11 squad. They are off to a 3-3 start this year but really haven't beaten anyone worth noting. This will be a test for the Bears because it's a veteran team playing at home, but it's a game that Potsdam can win. The oddsmakers have listed Marywood as a 3 point favorite but I'm going with Potsdam to pull one out here and win this one 86-81.  Go Bears!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2018, 03:43:39 PM
Potsdam trails at the half 35-30.

The Bears should be winning this game by double figures. They have missed 13 layups in the half and blew an 11 point lead.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 24, 2018, 05:06:28 PM
Potsdam 69  Marywood 74

Bears come from 8 points down early in the 2nd the half at 42-34, to grab the lead 47-46 on a Jayquan Thomas 3 pointer with 12:39 to play. 7 lead changes and 5 ties would take place from that point on until the Pacers went in front 66-64 on 2 free throws with 3:39 left. Potsdam missed another layup and Marywood scored on their end with a hoop and harm. Up 69-64 The Pacers managed to hang on and walk off with the win. Bears still need to get better in crunch time.

Five Potsdam players in double figures led by Jayquan Thomas with 18 points. Thomas also led the Bears with 8 rebounds. 

Bears fall to 1-3 and will return to action on Tuesday November 27th when they host crosstown rival Clarkson at 8:00 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2018, 01:21:02 AM
Last week of non conference before the real games begin

Top 6 ( out of 10) get invited to YAC DANCE  so every game means a lot once SUNYAC play begins!

So far non conference D3  records are...

Sunyac 18-9
Liberty 16-19
Empire 8 15-16
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2018, 02:15:51 PM
This is just in......

CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected Buffalo State sophomore Sheldon Adams (Rochester, N.Y.) as its Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Adams netted a career-best 31 points to lead Buffalo State to a 94-89 road victory over St. John Fisher in the Bengals' only action of the week. Adams was 8 of 12 from the field, including 4 of 8 from the 3-point range; he also hit 11 of 14 at the charity stripe. On top of his impressive offensive performance, the sophomore added five rebounds and three steals.

Congrats to Shelton.

Go BENGALS.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2018, 05:36:21 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on November 26, 2018, 02:15:51 PM
This is just in......

CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected Buffalo State sophomore Sheldon Adams (Rochester, N.Y.) as its Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Adams netted a career-best 31 points to lead Buffalo State to a 94-89 road victory over St. John Fisher in the Bengals' only action of the week. Adams was 8 of 12 from the field, including 4 of 8 from the 3-point range; he also hit 11 of 14 at the charity stripe. On top of his impressive offensive performance, the sophomore added five rebounds and three steals.

Congrats to Shelton.

Go BENGALS.

The obvious and only choice for this week's award. Big game against a good team that resulted in a W. Congratulations to Sheldon.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2018, 09:56:27 PM
New D3hoops Top 25 poll was just released and Plattsburgh State moves up 1 spot to #13. The Cardinals point total increased from 214 to 295.

Rochester jumped from the Others Receiving Votes category at #27 into the Top 25 at #20 Their point total increased from 67 to 135.

The only other team from the East Region to receive any mention was Nazareth, who made the Others Receiving Votes category. The Golden Flyers got 32 points which puts them in the 32nd spot.

Here's the link to the complete poll: https://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/week1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 27, 2018, 07:56:12 AM
Apparently Nazareth's 3-0 start didn't impress anyone. They actually lost nearly half their votes. They started with 60 points, which was good for 28th.

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/preseason
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on November 27, 2018, 09:13:18 AM
What about Middlebury's start screamed 5 place jump in the rankings?  The win over Endicott?  I know, I know.  It's early and the rankings don't mean a whole lot!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 27, 2018, 11:14:48 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 27, 2018, 07:56:12 AM
Apparently Nazareth's 3-0 start didn't impress anyone. They actually lost nearly half their votes. They started with 60 points, which was good for 28th.

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/preseason

To be fair ... the lose of points isn't because of Nazareth but because of other teams coming into the fray. The first week(s) vote tends to have a lot more movement as voters drop a lot of what they had for the preseason and look at actual results.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 27, 2018, 01:12:16 PM
I understand that. On the other hand, if they were impressive wins (or against quality opponents), their results should take care of themselves regardless of what happens around them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2018, 01:48:08 PM
Nov. 27      6 games on tap tonight and in a bit of an anomaly all 6 SUNYAC teams are favored by the oddsmakers.

Cortland State @ Ithaca 7:00 PM

The Red Dragons played Ithaca twice last year and the outcome of the two games was a 4 point win by Cortland, with the Bombers reversing the outcome and winning by two points 13 days later. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a road favorite of 2 points. A couple of weeks ago Ithaca beat Cortland by 3 points on the gridiron to win the Cortaca Jug game. I think the Red Dragons get some revenge. Cortland wins once again by 4 points, 84-80.


Alfred @ Geneseo State 7:30 PM

Alfred handled Geneseo by 11 points last year and the Saxons return 3 starters from that team. That's 2 more than the Knights return. Geneseo is favored by a 4 point margin but I think Alfred comes out on top in this game. I hope I'm wrong but I see the Saxons winning by an 80-73 final score.

Nazareth @ Oswego State 7:30 PM         Featured Game of the Night

The undefeated Lakers will finally get tested as the undefeated Golden Flyers invade Max Ziel Gym. Both teams come into the game with 3-0 records but the competition has been less than stellar. The combined records of the 6 teams that have lost to Nazareth and Oswego is 5-20. Last year Nazareth beat Oswego by 10 points and they were missing 2 of the players in their regular rotation. They returned all 5 players that started in that game, plus the 2 missing players. In fact Nazareth returned just about their entire team. Their two big guns are back, Tyler Stenglein, who has received preseason All-American hype and Jake Burgio who is presently averaging more ppg than Stenglein (24.7 to 19.7) They will be a handful.

Oswego counters with a lineup that features 4 guys averaging double figures and two others with 9.7 ppg. Brandon Gartland leads the way with 17.3 ppg, followed by transfer Quinn Carey, who was an all conference performer last year at Geneseo. He averages 15 ppg. Another new face is 6'5" forward Joe Sullivan who transferred in from DII Assumption College. He is averaging 11.7 ppg and 9.3 rpg. Senior Tyler Pierre (9.7 ppg, 6.7 rpg), soph, Liam Sanborn (7.3 ppg, 9.3 apg), junior Tim Marshall (9.7 ppg and scored 16 against Nazareth last year)and freshman Julien Crittendon (11.3 ppg)all add to the firepower that the Lakers can bring to this contest.

The oddsmakers have made Oswego a 4 point favorite and I'm hopeful that the reloaded Lakers can get the job done. Lakers win this one 87-84. I hope.


Plattsburgh State @ St. Lawrence 8:00 PM

The Cardinals are looking to go 3-0 in the Liberty League as they play their final opponent from that conference. Plattsburgh won last year's game by 16 points and these teams both return a majority of players that played in that game. Oddsmakers have the Cardinals favored by 12 points. I think they win by a few more. Plattsburgh 93 St. Lawrence 78.


Hartwick @ Oneonta State 8:00 PM

Oneonta takes on their local rivals who got a big win over Skidmore last Tuesday. The Hawks lost to the Red Dragons last year by a 90-79 score and return 4 of their top 7 scorers from that team. Oneonta has won two of the last three games in this matchup but is only 4-8 over the last 12 years. The Red Dragons are 3-0 this season but have yet to be challenged, winning by an average of 24 points. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 7 point favorite in this one. I also like the Red Dragons to win by a final score of 94- 86.   



Clarkson @ Potsdam State 8:00 PM

Crosstown rivals go at it once more with bragging rights on the line. It's been 6 years since the Bears have beaten the Golden Knights. I can remember when the pendulum swung the other way. Maybe this will be the year that Potsdam gets a win in this rivalry. The Bears are 1-3 and Clarkson is 0-4 with losses to SUNYAC schools Oswego and Plattsburgh already. The oddsmakers have Potsdam listed as a 3 point favorite. I'll take the Bears to win 76-72. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 27, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 27, 2018, 01:12:16 PM
I understand that. On the other hand, if they were impressive wins (or against quality opponents), their results should take care of themselves regardless of what happens around them.

That is true ... and one of the reasons I didn't move Nazareth up my ballot too much despite being unbeaten. I did move them up from 25 to around 20 (off the top of my head).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2018, 07:47:11 PM
Cortland 85 Ithaca 75

The Red Dragons were up 79-75 with 1:47 left to play. Ithaca missed their final 5 shots and Cortland got 3 free throws and a 3 pointer to make the 10 point margin of victory. I had Cortland winning 84-80 so I wasn't too far off.

Nicky Bonura led Cortland with 22 points. Justin Cooper had a double-double of 19 points and 13 rebounds. Zach Lydon had 13 points and Kenny Charles had 12.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2018, 09:16:51 PM
Oswego 70 Nazareth 55

The Lakers got balanced scoring with double figures from 4 starters and used a 12-0 run midway through the 2nd half to bust up a relatively close game as they breezed to the win by a comfortable margin. Up by 5 points at 44-39, the Lakers got a pair of 3 pointers and 3 layups while Nazareth was misfiring on 4 straight possessions. Now up 56-39 Oswego never let the Golden Flyers get closer than 12 points and extended the lead to to 20 points with 3:34 to play.

I expected a closer game but the Lakers controlled the boards 48-34 and kept Naz's 2 main threats under control. (They got 17 and 16 and no one else hit double figures)

Key stat....Lakers were 10x21 from long distance....Nazareth was 3x15.

Tyler Pierre and Liam Sanborn both had 18 points to lead Oswego and share scoring honors.

Pierre had almost as many rebounds as points, grabbing 15 boards to get his double-double and lead everyone in that category also. He also had 3 assists and 3 steals.

Sanborn had a game high 7 assists to go with his 18 points.

Joe Sullivan also had a double-double with 11 points and 14 rebounds. He added 3 steals and a pair of assists.

Quinn Carey had 15 points as he went 5x9 from behind the arc.


Oswego is now 4-0 and will take on conference foe Geneseo on Fridaynight at 7:30 PM and then Brockport on Saturday at 4:00 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2018, 09:38:27 PM
Potsdam State 77  Clarkson 66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2018, 09:39:51 PM
Geneseo State 89  Alfred 73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2018, 09:40:47 PM
Oneonta State 72   Hartwick 73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2018, 09:54:19 PM
Plattsburgh State 93  St. Lawrence 64

The Saints hung with Plattsburgh for much of the first half but the Cardinals maintained a lead between 2 and 8 points for most of the period. Back to back layups by Ian Howard and Chris Middleton put Plattsburgh in front 35-25 with 2:46 left in the half for their first double digit lead. St. Lawrence managed to cut the advantage to 7 as they scored on a putback with 1 second remaining to go into the break down 38-31.

The Saints scored on their opening possession after the intermission to narrow the gap to 5 but it was all Plattsburgh after that as the Cardinals ran off 13 unanswered points to lead 51-33. Brandon Johnson started the run with a three pointer. Chris Middleton hit a jumper, Jon Patron hit a jumper and Johnson got a layup off a steal and feed by Patron. Middleton made 2 free throws when he had a steal and was fouled going to the hoop. Johnson finished the run with another move to the basket for a layup. The Cardinals were never  seriously challenged after that. The lead grew to 31 points and both teams emptied their benches to close the game out.

Plattsburgh was led once again by Brandon Johnson who captured scoring honors with 26 points (10x14 fg, 5x7 3's, 1x3 ft). He had 4 rebounds, 4 steals, 3 assists and a block.

Jon Patron finally gets a double-double with 23 points and a game high 10 rebounds. Jon missed double-doubles in his first 3 games by a single rebound as he had 9 boards in each one of them. He added 4 assists and 3 steals.

Chris Middleton had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals and a block.

Nick DeAngelis had 9 points 2 rebounds and 2 assists off the bench.

Isaiah Hill had 6 points 8 rebounds and assist and a block in 20 minutes of court time.

Adam Jacquish had 5 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, a steal and a block in 14 minutes off the bench.

Plattsburgh outshot the Saints in all 3 areas, but the Saints won the rebounding battle 42-37. Plattsburgh had 14 turnovers to 23 for SLU.

Ben Crawford led St. Lawrence with 14 points. Brandon Arnold, Luke Hicks, and Dom DeRegis all scored 10 points each.

Plattsburgh is now 4-0 overall (3-0 in the Liberty League) and will open up conference play this weekend when they host New Paltz on Friday at 7:30 PM followed by Oneonta on Saturday at 4:00 PM.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2018, 10:15:44 PM
Nice. SUNYAC goes 5 - 1 against our fellow east conferences - Empire 8 and Liberty league!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2018, 06:55:58 PM
Nov. 28    Just a single game on the slate tonight.   

Alfred State        Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The Bengals coming off a nice victory over St. John Fisher to break into the win column. Fisher then went out and beat Liberty League favorite, Hobart, by 10 points, a week after losing to the Bengals. So that win by Buff State looks even better. Hopefully they can take the positives from that game and keep going forward.

Tonight they play the Pioneers of Alfred State, which is, I believe, the first meeting between these two schools. Alfred State comes into this game with a 3-3 record but hasn't beaten a DIII team with a win. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 9 point favorite but I think they win by a few more than that. Bengals 95 Alfred State 81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 28, 2018, 10:12:05 PM
Buffalo State 98  Alfred State 93

The Bengals tried hard to give this one away but managed to hang on and even their record at 2-2.  Buff State led at the half 48-40 and jumped out to a 21 point lead 5 minutes into the 2nd period. Up 67-46 the Bengals watched Alfred go on an 14-2 run that turned the big lead into single digits. Once more the Bengals built the lead back to 15 points on a 3 pointer by Zak Ciezki with 9 minutes left to play but the Pioneers wouldn't go away. Still down 10 points with 2:30 remaining, Alfred State scored 8 unanswered points to pull within 2 at 92-90 with a minute to go. It was now anyone's game and the Bengals were fortunate to get an offensive rebound on their next possession which   led to a Pioneer foul and the Bengals' Yosh Bernardez made both free throws. Bernardez then got a steal seconds later, was fouled again and made 2 more free throws. After the Pioneers went to the line for a pair of free throws to cut the lead to 4 points, Bernardez scored on a layup off an assist by Ciezki to give the Bengals the breathing room they needed to get the win. Bengals should have won this game by 20 points.

Sheldon Adams captured scoring honors for the game with 22 points. He added 5 rebounds, 4 assists, a block and a steal.

Dom Grayer had 20 points and 3 rebounds.

Zak Ciezki  had 13 points in 22 minutes off the bench.

Kay Grant and  Yosh Bernardez both had 10 points each. Kay added 6 boards, 2 assists and a block, while Bernardez had 4 assists, 3 steals, 2 rebounds and a block.

Christopher Jordan led the team with 10 rebounds to go with his 7 points.

Buffalo State will return to action on Saturday December 1st when they travel to Fredonia to open conference play against the Blue Devils. That game will tipoff at 4:00 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2018, 06:10:06 PM
With conference play starting tonight I thought I would list my predictions for the conference standings at the end of the regular season.

1.   Plattsburgh State   The defending champs went 17-1 in the conference last year and their one loss came while All-American, Jon Patron, was sitting out the first semester. The Cardinals return a lot of talent from that team and Patron (22.3 ppg, 9.3 rpg) along with Brandon  Johnson (20.3 ppg, 4.5 apg), have been on fire in the early going. Throw in 6th man, Nick DeAngelis (16 ppg) and starter Chris Middleton (10.5 ppg, and Plattsburgh has a lot of options to throw at you. Every team will be looking to take down the Cardinals but I think these guys are up for the challenge. I see them repeating as regular season champions.


2.   Oswego State   The Lakers have added a pair of transfers to bolster their starting rotation and this has made them the top contender to topple the Cardinals. Senior, Quinn Carey, an all conference performer last year for Geneseo is leading the team in scoring with 15 ppg. Junior, Joe Sullivan, a DII transfer from Assumption College is averaging a double-double with 11.5 ppg and 10.5 rpg. Guard Brandon Gartland (13.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg), point guard Liam Sanborn (10.0 ppg, 8.75 apg), and center Tyler Pierre, (11.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg) give the Lakers a starting five that all average double figures. They displayed their versatility Tuesday night with their 15 point win over Nazareth, who was ranked 28th in the country in the D3hoops preseason Top 25 poll. I expect to see a few more of the classic  Plattsburgh State- Oswego State battles similar to the ones of the past few years.


3.   Oneonta State These Red Dragons have made it to the SUNYAC Championship game in each of the past 2 seasons. Is the fact that Coach Cameron Conover became the Red Dragon coach 2 years ago just a coincidence of that fact? I don't think so. Oneonta became a better team the minute he was named their new coach, but making the championship in back to back seasons did surprise a lot of people...myself included.  I almost slotted them in the number 2 spot (and it wouldn't amaze me if they ended up there or higher) but I think my top two choices will ultimately end up there. Oneonta has a young team with no seniors in their 9 man rotation,so next year may be their year. They are led by junior guard Kevin Mackin with 19.3 ppg. Andres Rivera ( 15.3 ppg, 5.5 rpg), Harrison Deegan (11.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg),  and Sean Nolan 10.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 3.7 apg).


4.   Cortland State   The other Red Dragons lost 3 starters from last years' 3rd place finisher. As usual Coach Spanbauer has guys in the wings, waiting to move into primetime. As usual Cortland figures to make the YAC playoffs, the only question will be the slot. With Justin Cooper and Nicky Bonura back for another year, Cortland has two key players that can take the team for a ride. Bonura is leading the team with 23 ppg and he's hitting 50% from 3 point range. Cooper is averaging a double-double of 15 ppg and 11 rpg.  Throw in Ben Walters, Kenny Charles and Zach Lydon who are all averaging close to 10 ppg and you have a solid group that is capable of beating any team in the league. In 2015-16 Cortland did just that. A regular season 12-6 record meant nothing, as they won the conference tournament and missed the Sweet 16 by a single point on a lousy call at Amherst with just a few seconds on the clock that put Amherst on the line for the winning free throws. This year I expect Cortland will be right there with the top teams.


5. Brockport State The Golden Eagles lost 3 starters from last season's 2nd place team most notably Hamed Shamseldin and replacing him is no easy feat. Justin Summers is now the go to guy and he's averaging 21.7 ppg and 9.3 rpg. Backing him up is guard Tyler Collins with 14 ppg, 4.3 rpg and 4.6 apg.  Newcomer, Devonte Hagins, a 6'5" sophomore guard is averaging 14 ppg and 9.3 rpg.
Another new face that has been starting is Mongomery Stroman, a 6'4" junior who is averaging 9.5 ppg and 5.5 rpg. It looks like the Golden Eagles have positioned themselves for another run at the top prize but may have a period of adjustments until everyone gets on the same page.

6.   Buffalo State   The Bengals gained my pick for the final playoff spot by virtue of their solid win last week against a good St John Fisher team. I watched that game and was impressed with the Bengals (but didn't like their game against Brooklyn College or Alfred State) As Walt Kelly once said in his comic strip..."Pogo"... "we have met the enemy and he is us". Sometimes the Bengals worst enemy is themselves.  The team lost a lot of talent from last year and didn't have a very good year last year, missing the playoffs.

This is what I wrote earlier about the Bengals back in late October:

"The Bengals have many new faces with 4 freshman and what looks like 3 transfers on board. The team doesn't appear to have their big man back, 6'8" Junior Sir.Quintin Campbell. Sophomore forward, Bryan Harrel, who had a decent first year averaging 9 points a game is also missing. Couple that with 2 graduating seniors, both starters, All Conference forward Mike Henry and guard Malik Turner and the Bengals come up a bit short in the returning points category. Over 50 points of their 78 ppg average has left the building. It's not like the Bengals are coming off a great season either as they were down last year, so I think the coaching staff in the Queen City will have their work cut out for them this year in the conference. Coach Ansari has some good assistants, though and I'm sure they went out and found some excellent talent to pump new life into the Bengals. The question will be... how soon can this talent come together to try and grab one of the 6 playoff spots. Returning SUNYAC Rookie of the Year, guard Sheldon Adams, is a good beginning, but he will have to work with a new starting rotation to get the Bengals in the hunt."

So they replaced 4 starters and it looks like they have some solid new players. It will take time to sort things out and get the pecking order established. They should have the ammunition to grab a playoff spot, though, how high remains to be determined.

7.   Potsdam State  I was hoping to pencil in the Bears for a playoff spot this year and still have hopes that they will get one but right now I see them on the outside looking in. They have a solid starting five and several of their players could start for any team in the conference. Dante Langley leads the Bears with 18.2 ppg and 6.0 rpg.  Nosa Onabor adds 14.8 ppg and 3.3 rpg. Serigne Kane has 11.0 ppg and Jayquan Thomas adds 10.8 ppg. They each average 4 rpg. Point guard Danny Delsol-Lowry averages 9.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg and 3.2 apg. The Bears have the offense but struggle on the defensive end. They also need to learn how to win. Here' hoping they keep improving under Coach Bechtel.


8.   Geneseo State  Losing 4 starters is never a recipe for a good next season. It;s even less so when you don't think you're going to lose 4 starters. Geneseo had good news lat March when 2 of their underclassmen were named to the SUNYAC All Conference team. Several months later those 2 players were no longer attending Geneseo and opted to leave for various reasons. So instead of a solid nucleus to build on the Blue Knights were forced to regroup. The lone returning starter is a good one as  Zack Panebianco is averaging 15 ppg. Terrance Nichols has moved into a starters role and is leading the team with 20.3 ppg. He is also grabbing 6.0 rpg. Alex Merhige leads the team in rebounding with 8.0 per game along with 5.5 ppg. Jack Manke is averaging 8.0 rpg and 5.3 ppg.
The Knights are a disciplined team and work the ball looking for the best shot as Coach Minton's teams have always done. You can't take them lightly or they will quietly and efficiently simply beat you.  They may perform better than my projection and it wouldn't surprise me if they finish ahead of a couple of teams but based on the talent in this year's YAC this is where I have them.


9.   New Paltz State The Hawks continue to improve under new head coach Keith Kenny but I don't think they improve enough to make the playoffs this year. When you take over a program that was 1-23 it takes a while to turn it around. Getting 7 wins last year was a big turn around for the team and hopefully they can build on that a little more this season. They won 4 conference games last year after going 0-18 the year before. The Hawks are led by 6'5" junior transfer Scott Reisert, who is averaging 15 ppg and 6.3 rpg.
Tristan Wissemann with 14 ppg, Nick Paquette with 11.5 ppg and Jake Passaretti with 10.3 ppg are the others averaging double figures. Paddy Parr with 9.7 rebounds per game is also a starter. Last year the Hawks upset Geneseo and came close against Brockport, Oneonta. Buff State. and Potsdam.  They will make you pay is you don't take them seriously.


10.  Fredonia State Someone has to end up on the bottom. For the 2nd year in a row it looks like it will be the Blue Devils. Last year they were 2-16 in the YAC but both of those 2 wins were upsets over Buffalo State and Oneonta. They lost 4 starters from that team and will be hard pressed to match the 4 wins they had last year Returning starter Isaiah Ice leads the team with 15.5 ppg. De'Quan Smith os next with 10.7 ppg. The Blue Knights will struggle on the offensive end. With 6 freshman and 4 sophomores on the team it will be a while before they can put together some wins.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2018, 06:34:30 PM
Nov. 30      Four games on the schedule as the SUNYAC kicks off conference play.   Only time for quick picks tonight    

Geneseo State at  Oswego State        7:30 PM

The Blue Knights will be overmatched in this one The oddsmakers have Oswego as an 8 point favorite. I think they win by double digits. Oswego 83  Geneseo71


New Paltz State  @  Plattsburgh State   7:30 PM

The Hawks lost to the Cardinals by an average of 31 points in last year's 2 games. The point spread is 22 in this one. Cards win by more. Plattsburgh State 97 New Paltz 70.


Brockport State  @  Cortland State        7:30 PM    The Featured Game of the Night

The outcome is always in doubt when these two teams go at it. Each won on the other home court last year. the oddsmakers have the Red Dragons winning this one by 4 points. I think that Cortland will also win at home.  Cortland 80 Brockport 75.




Oneonta  @   Potsdam  State              7:30 PM

Oneonta should win this one but the oddsmakers think it will be a barnburner and favor the Red Dragon by only 2 points. I think they win by a few more. Oneonta 87 Potsdam 78.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 30, 2018, 09:39:26 PM
Final at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium Potsdam 98, Oneonta 86. 
Bears led nearly wire to wire. 

Jayquan Thomas led Potsdam with 31, and Danny DelSol-Lowry added 26, and Nosa Onabor with 18. 

Kevin Mackin led Dragons with 22.

Bears 28x50 FG 10x19 3FG, and 32 x 40 from the stripe.

Dragons 33x64 FG; 10x26 3FG; 10x13 FT



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 30, 2018, 11:09:21 PM
Final scores:

Plattsburgh State 85   New Paltz State  75

Brockport State 78   Cortland State 69

Oswego State 68  Geneseo State 58
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2018, 02:09:22 PM
Plattsburgh State 85   New Paltz State  75

This was an exciting game as the Hawks came to play and actually led the Cardinals for a good part of the game. The teams jockeyed back and forth for most of the first period. The Hawks had the lead by as many as 5 points and the Cardinals would tie the score but couldn't get the lead from the 18:07 mark until the 9:42 mark. Finally a pair of free throws by Travis Cox put the Cards in front 23-22. 6 more lead changes and 5 ties would take place before Plattsburgh would go in front 41-40 with 38 seconds left in the half. With time winding down and Plattsburgh looking to take the last shot, the Cardinals got an offensive rebound and a putback by Chris Middleton, with 2 ticks on the clock, to go into the locker room up 43-40.

Plattsburgh opened the 2nd half with a jumper by Jon Patron to go up by 5 points, but the resilient Hawks went on a 10-4 spurt to regain the lead at 50-49. Patron drained a 3 pointer for Plattsburgh and Brandon Johnson followed with an old fashioned 3 pointer to put the Cards back on top 55-50. THe Hawks on cue, promptly reeled off an 11-1 run to reverse the situation and go in front 61-56 with 12:51 left to play. The Cardinals didn't panic and decided to put an end to the upstart Hawks as they went on a 14-0 run fueled by buckets from 5 different players. At the 8:16 mark the score was now 70-61 and the Cardinals were never seriously threatened after that. The lead reached a high of 14 at 80-66 before Plattsburgh closed the game out at the line.  The Cardinals had one of the worst nights I've ever witnessed from the charity stripe as they missed 26 free throw attempts. It was Hack-a-Shaq no matter who you put on the line. Plattsburgh shot 46.9% (23 for 49), from the line. If they had made their normal 65% from the line (what they were averaging going into this game) they would have won this game by 20 points. 

Jon Patron had a big night for Plattsburgh as he had a huge double-double, leading all scorers with 32 points and agame high 20 rebounds. He also had 3 assists, 3 blocks and 2 steals.

Ian Howard also had a double-double with 13 points and 12 rebounds.

Chris Middleton had 13 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Nick DeAngelis added 9 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, a steal and a block

Brandon Johnson had 8 points, 5 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal.


New Paltz got a team high 17 points from Scott Reisert. He grabbed  8 rebounds, had 1 assist and a block.

Isaiah Bien-Aise added 13 points, 7 rebounds and a block.

Tristan Wissemann had 12 points, a team high 9 rebounds and 3 assists

New Paltz is definitely an improved ball club and will be a team pulling off some upsets this season. They are well coached and on the offensive end, work the ball well, looking for the best shot. They hung with the defending champs for much of this game and I was impressed with how they came back a number of times throughout the game.

Shooting stats were pretty even but the Cardinals dominated the boards 54-41. Plattsburgh only had 8 turnovers to 11 for the Hawks. New Paltz was called for 32 personal fouls to only 16 against Plattsburgh but it was a case of the Cardinal players getting to the rim and getting fouled quite often.

Plattsburgh improves to 5-0 (1-0 in the YAC) and will take on Oneonta State Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM.

New Paltz falls to  2-2 (0-1 YAC) and travels over to Potsdam to face the Bears today at 4:00 PM           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2018, 02:53:25 PM
Dec. 1   All 10 teams in action today as the first weekend of conference play continues.   



Geneseo State  @  Cortland State              4:00 PM

The Knights gave the Lakers a closer game than I expected last night while the Red Dragons lost at home to Brockport. I don't think Cortland will go 0-2 at home this weekend. Neither do the oddsmakers who have listed the Red Dragons as a 7 point favorite in this one. I agree.  Cortland 77 Geneseo 71.


Oneonta State  @  Plattsburgh State    4:00 PM           Co-Featured Game of the Day

Once again the Coach and his former assistant meet up with bragging rights on the line. Coach Curle is 5-0 against Coach Conover but that can't last forever. Some day Oneonta will defeat Plattsburgh and the braggin rights will be reversed. It just won't be this day. Oddsmakers have Plattsburgh favored by 11 points. That seems like a lot... but then again.... Plattsburgh 90 Oneonta 78.


Brockport State  @  Oswego State         4:00 PM            Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Golden Eagles went into the lair of the Dragon last night and came away with a W. Today they try to steal one in Max Ziel Gym.
These teams have split their last 8 games and they have all been nailbiters with the outcome in doubt right to the end. The margin of victory has been 2-4-3-5-OT-OT....well you get the picture. The oddsmakers have made Oswego a 5 point favorite today. I also like the Lakers to win by a final of 79-75.   


New Paltz State  @  Potsdam State         4:00 PM

The Hawks mean business and last night's game against Plattsburgh was proof but the Bears are no longer the pushover they were in the past. Last night's defeat of Oneonta once again showed how strong the YAC can be from top to bottom. Potsdam has won 5 of the last 6 in this series and would love nothing more than to be tied atop the conference after the first weekend of play. The oddsmakers have Potsdm favored by 8 points. I think it will be closer. Potsdam 82 New Paltz 77.


Buffalo State  @  Fredonia State         4:00 PM

Western New York rivals go at it with Fredonia looking to break into the win column. They will have to wait for another day. The point spread favors the Bengals by a 5 point margin. I'll be surprised if the Blue Devils can keep it that close.  Buffalo State wins this one 91-80.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 01, 2018, 06:05:38 PM
In a barnburner, Bears defeat New Paltz 73-71 at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.

Jayquan Thomas with 21 points leads the Bears, who also got 15 from Nosa Onabor and 13 from Dante Langley.  Thomas had 52 on the weekend.  Serigne Kane just shy of a double double for the Bears with 12 Rebounds and 9 points.

Tristan Wissemann led 4 Hawks in double figures with 16.

Hawks kept it close by forcing 22 Potsdam turnovers.

Bears move to 4-3 2-0 SUNYAC.  They also just completed a 3 win week.




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2018, 06:29:45 PM
Saturday scores:

Geneseo State   65    Cortland State    74
   
Oneonta State   69   Plattsburgh State 84

New Paltz State    71   Potsdam State    73    

Brockport State    63    Oswego State    73
      
Buffalo State   88    Fredonia State 78
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 01, 2018, 07:24:55 PM
Through first weekend of conference play:
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 03, 2018, 01:44:19 PM
With potentially 7 games left ( definitely 5 games left) vs Empire 8 and Liberty league foes, I noticed something pleasantly surprising.

Currently The SUNYAC is 7 - 0 vs liberty league. With 2 and possibly 3 games left (Fredonia may play Vassar in tourney) , the worse that the Yac can do against Liberty would be 7-3 ...The best 10- 0. Lets go Oswego and Brockport  (and possibly Fredonia)

Versus the Empire 8....Yac is 6 -1 with 3 , possibly 4 (Cortland may play St John Fisher in Tourney) games left vs E 8    The worse we could do is 6-5. The best we could do is 11-1. Lets go Brockport, Fredonia , New paltz (and possibly Cortland). In either case the SUNYAC has dominated to other 2 East conferences.

As many Yac observers know, post season bids are awarded to multiple teams in the same conference,  depending on various factors. I believe Conf vs Conf record will play a role. I hope so.

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 03, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
What the Heck is going on in Bear Country.
Think the Magicman is using his Magic Wand over there at his Alma Mater.

The Ultimate SUNYAC Championship game would be the Cardinals of Plattsburgh vs Da Bears of Potsdam.
Very Happy for Potsdam after many years at the bottom of the SUNYAC.

Magicman must be in Heaven right now. When was the last time they swept a weekend series.

Lets GOOOOO BEARS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2018, 11:41:17 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 03, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
What the Heck is going on in Bear Country.
Think the Magicman is using his Magic Wand over there at his Alma Mater.

The Ultimate SUNYAC Championship game would be the Cardinals of Plattsburgh vs Da Bears of Potsdam.
Very Happy for Potsdam after many years at the bottom of the SUNYAC.

Magicman must be in Heaven right now. When was the last time they swept a weekend series.

Lets GOOOOO BEARS


All-Time,

The Bears beating Oneonta and then New Paltz to start the conference campaign 2-0 is certainly cause for a bit of celebrating. Strange that you should ask... when was the last time the Bears swept a weekend series? That actually occurred on Friday, January 18th and Saturday, January 19th of 2013. The opponents? None other than Oneonta on Friday the 18th and New Paltz on Saturday the 19th. Being a history major at Potsdam State in my undergrad years, I was constantly reminded by my professors that "history repeats itself". I've known that to be true all my life, now even the YAC decides to follow suit. 8-)

I'm not going to overdo it on the celebrating because the Bears have to win on the road and they haven't proven to me they can do that yet against a decent team. The Bears won't go undefeated at home, I think the most they will win is 5 home games which means they will have to win 3 or 4 road games to get into the playoffs. I'm hopeful they will do that but it's going to be tough.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2018, 02:54:53 AM
Saturday's game: Plattsburgh State 84 Oneonta State 69

Jon Patron had his 3rd double-double of the week to lead the Cardinals to their 6th straight win to start the season. Patron could easily have 6 double-doubles as he grabbed 9 rebounds in each of the other 3 games the Cardinals played. He had 26 points and 11 rebounds to take game honors in both categories. His 5 assists were only topped by teammate Brandon Johnson who had 7 assists to go with his 15 points.

The Cardinals and Red Dragons played an exciting first half that had 3 ties and 4 lead changes and ended with Plattsburgh on top 36-34. Several time the Cardinals opened up a lead, first by 9 points at 24-15 with 9 minutes to play with a 7-0 run, only to have Oneonta go on their own 7-0 run to make it 24-22 with 7:47 remaining. Travis Cox and Nick DeAngelis both hit 3 pointers for Plattsburgh to open up a 6 point edge but a 3 pointer by Carson Jacobs would eventually tie the score at 32 with 3:36 to play in the period. The teams were tied again at 34 when Chris Middleton hit a pair from the line to provide the halftime margin for the Cards.

The teams continued their back and forth play through the first 8  minutes of the 2nd half. Up by 4 at 48-44, DeAngelis nailed another shot from downtown and Middleton got a steal and layup to increase the lead to 9 points. A short time later Middleton hit a jumper to give the Cardinals their first double digit lead at 55-45. Still up by 8 points, with 7 minutes left in the game, Travis Cox buried another threeball and then stole the ball which resulted in another 3 pointer by Brandon Johnson to put Plattsburgh up by 14 points and Oneonta couldn't recover from that quick turnaround. A jumper by Middleton and a layup from Patron boosted the lead to 20 and this one was over. Both teams emptied their benches for the final few minutes and the 23 point lead dwindled to 15.

In addition to Jon Patron and Brandon Johnson scoring in double figures the Cardinals also got 15 points and 6 rebounds from Chris Middleton.

Ian Howard had 7 rebounds along with 6 points, while Nick DeAngelis had 8 points and 3 rebounds.


Oneonta got 14 points from Andres Rivera and 13 points from Ian Schultz.

Joseph Bull had 8 rebounds, 5 points, 4 assists and a block. 

Harrison Deegan had 5 assists, 4 points and 2 steals.

Carson Jacobs had 9 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Sean Nolan had 8 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Plattsburgh outshot the Red Dragons in all 3 areas and had 39 rebounds to only 22 for Oneonta. Plattsburgh had 17 turnovers to just 12 the visitors.

Plattsburgh improves to 6-0 overall and 2-0 in the conference. They will face Middlebury College on Tuesday night December 4th at 7:30 PM in a battle of Top 25 teams. Middlebury is currently ranked #18 after the new poll that came out on Monday night. The Panthers were #12 last week and Plattsburgh was #13 but the Cardinals 3-0 week boosted them into the #10 spot while Middlebury had a 2-1 week and dropped 6 spots. The Panthers will pose a serious challenge for Plattsburgh and the Cardinals need to bring their A game if they hope to remain undefeated.

Oneonta falls to 3-3 overall and 0-2 in the SUNYAC. They are off until Saturday when they visit their travel partner at New Paltz to take on the Hawks.           
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2018, 02:57:01 AM
Plattsburgh State moves into the top ten in the new D3hoops Top 25 poll out on Monday night. The Cardinals moved up 3 spots from #13 to #10. Their point total increased from 295 to 368.

Rochester moves up to #17 with 230 points. Last week they were #20 with 135 points.

Oswego State gets some votes and is listed in the Others Receiving Votes  at #35 with 12 points.

No other East Region team is listed. Here's the complete poll:   https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/week2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2018, 03:20:28 AM
No surprise that Plattsburgh State's Jon Patron was the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the Week ending on Sunday, December 2nd. Scoring 81 points and grabbing 41 rebounds in 3 games usually gets you that award.

I see the D3hoops boys also awarded him with a Team of the Week Award as well. Averaging 27 ppg and 13.7 rpg is pretty special. He also averaged 4 assists and 2 steals in those 3 games.

Here's the writeup from the SUNYAC website:  http://www.sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/releases/20181203jv7sw0


Here's the link to the Team of the Week from D3hoops front page:   https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2018-19/week3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2018, 06:36:24 AM
Dec. 4    6 teams in action today with some tough matchups   

Brockport State  @  Hobart        7:00 PM

The Statesmen will be looking to avenge last year's 89-83 loss to the Golden Eagles. It was a loss that kept Hobart at home in March while Port got to go dancing.  The oddsmakers have Hobart listed as a 2 point favorite in this one. They have some injury problems but they returned nearly their entire lineup. Already with 4 losses this season (they were 21-5 last year) they have lost to 3 pretty good teams and had a clunker the other night against a so-so Vassar team. I think they come out on top of the Golden Eagles in this one but I sure hope I'm wrong.  Hobart 79 Brockport 76.



Sage  @   New Paltz State        7:00 PM

The Hawks looked good against Plattsburgh State last Friday for a large part of the game. If they play like that I can see them winning this game. The point spread has them favored by a 4 point margin. I'll take the Hawks to win 89-81.



Potsdam State  @  SUNY-Canton        7:00 PM

The Bears are looking to put together a 4 game winning streak for the first time in over 12 years. Canton may just be the right opponent to accomplish that task against. The oddsmakers have the Bears listed as a 5 point favorite, but I think they win by a few more. Potsdam 87  Canton 78.


   
Fredonia State  @  Medaille        7:00 PM

The Blue Devils are still in search of that initial win. The oddsmakers don't see them getting it today. Neither do I. The Mavericks are favored by 10 points and that seems a little high. Medaille wins this one 83-77.


Geneseo State  @  #17 Rochester        8:00 PM

The Blue Knights will have their hands full with Rochester who is off to a 6-0 start and is ranked #17 in the D3hoops Top 25 poll. The oddsmakers have made the Yellowjackets an 11 point favorite in this one. Geneseo hasn't beaten Rochester in an least a dozen years and is 0-6 since 2000-07 season. Last year they lost by 22 points and Rochester returned more than the Knights did. I hope Geneseo can pull off the upset here but I don't see it happening. Rochester wins this one 77-65 



     
#18 Middlebury  @  #10 Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM       The Featured Game of the Night

These two teams are both ranked in the D3hoops Top 25. Middlebury was ranked above Plattsburgh last week but a loss on Saturday to a good Keene State team, dropped the Panthers down a few notches as they come in at #18. Plattsburgh is listed at #10. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a slim 2 point favorite in this one.

Middlebury has 7 players listed at 6'6" or taller but looks like only 4 of them get meaningful minutes. They get the bulk of their scoring from a pair of guards. Max Bosco, who comes off the bench is averaging 16.2 ppg and starter Jack Farrell averages 15.3 ppg. The other member of their big three is forward Matt Folger who averages 15.8 ppg. He also averages 9.8 rpg  but the leading rebounder is the other starting forward, Eric McCord. He's averaging 10 rpg but is doing it in just 17 minutes per game while Folger is playing 27 minutes per game. Starting guards Griffin Kornacker and Hilal Dahleh can hurt you as well. Last year they both had double figures against the Cardinals. Off the bench the Panthers get help from junior guard Perry DeLorenzo and Freshman forward Alex Sobel who is averaging 9.2 ppg and 6.5 rpg.

Plattsburgh has lost the last 4 games in this series and last year watched an 8 point halftime deficit grow to 22 points as the Panthers went on a 16-0 run when the Cardinals got close at 43-37. Plattsburgh ended up on the short end of a lop sided 91-68 final score. The Cardinals were missing their top gun, Jon Patron, in that game and hopefully he will be a difference maker tonight.

I expect a close game and don't envision a blowout this year by either team. I think the Cardinals are up for the challenge and feel we're due to win one against a solid Middlebury team. They are always well coached and they will be looking to avoid back to back losses. I'm taking Plattsburgh to win a tight one by an 84-80 final score       


   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 04, 2018, 10:16:39 AM
It's time for the Cardinals to show a little muscle and finally beat Middlebury.
I have watched the last 4 games on line and Plattsburgh is the more talented team but Middlebury plays within themselves and is always fundamentally sound.

Expect Jon Patron to have a big night and with the Magicman waving that Magic Wand at home, I expect the Cardinals to win BIG Tonight.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 04, 2018, 08:46:16 PM
SUNY Potsdam wins at SUNY Canton 77-74. 

Bears dug out of a 14 point first half deficit, then withstood a furious Kangaroo comeback at the end.

Bears win their 4th straight game since ????.  Now 5-3 headed into a difficult trip to Genny and 'port.

PG Danny DelSol-Lowry led 4 Bears in double figures with 18.  Robert Holliday Jr. took Game honors for the Roos with 23.

7'1" SUNY Canton Aussie recruit Andrew Fitch added 4 blocks to his NCAA D-III leading total.

Go Bears!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 04, 2018, 09:25:45 PM
The Plattsburgh Cards are for real as they take out the Panthers of Middlebury 92-83.  I'll let the magic one do the re cap. Hoping that Geneseo can knock off U of Rochester giving the YAC 2 wins in one night over ranked teams !

As already mentioned the Potsdam Bears are butter.... because they are on a roll ( with another win ).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2018, 01:21:30 AM
Sunyac goes 3-3 last night. Liberty league gets thier first win vs  the Yac  :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 05, 2018, 08:42:04 AM
Magic must be hungover after celebrating last night's big win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2018, 11:01:55 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on December 05, 2018, 08:42:04 AM
Magic must be hungover after celebrating last night's big win.

I couldn't agree more.  But when he does sober up and hit these boards....... watch out! :o
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 05, 2018, 01:40:47 PM
The Magicman must be writing a novel. ;)
Anxiously waiting for his breakdown of the game.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 05, 2018, 01:40:47 PM
The Magicman must be writing a novel. ;)
Anxiously waiting for his breakdown of the game.

He must be. I hope he's ok!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 06, 2018, 04:09:09 AM
Nice win for your guys the other night, magicman!  Hope you are well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
Quote from: AllStar on December 06, 2018, 04:09:09 AM
Nice win for your guys the other night, magicman!  Hope you are well.

Thanks Allstar. I'm gonna give him a call. This is strange!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2018, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 06, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
Quote from: AllStar on December 06, 2018, 04:09:09 AM
Nice win for your guys the other night, magicman!  Hope you are well.

Thanks Allstar. I'm gonna give him a call. This is strange!

Just spoke to the Magic one. After Mondays game, he hung out with his 2 friends from Middlebury. He had to collect on a "strange" bet from his Midd buds on his Cards winning!  He should be recuperated by tomorrow!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2018, 06:52:52 PM
Plus K to all my friends looking out for me. I'll have my recap of Tuesday games up later tonight. Better late than never as they say. Just a bit rundown from doing things then were necessary around the house. Needed to recharge the batteries.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2018, 12:28:12 AM
Quote from: thebear on December 04, 2018, 08:46:16 PM

7'1" SUNY Canton Aussie recruit Andrew Fitch added 4 blocks to his NCAA D-III leading total.

Bear,

Fitch has 24 blocks in his 8 games, for a 3.0 bpg average.  The NCAA leader is Benjamin Vezele, from Rhode Island College, in the Little East Conference. He has 48 blocks in 11 games for a 4.4 bpg average and leads Division III  in total blocks as well as blocks per game.

Vezele must have some great hops as he is only 6'5".

Fitch is in 10th place with his 3 bpg and is tied for 5th place with his total of 24 blocks.

The YAC's own Justin Summers from Brockport is right behind the tie for 5th with 23 blocks which has been done in 2 games less than Fitch has had. Justin has a 6 game total  of 3.8 blocks per game, which is good enough for 3rd place in all of Division III. We know Justin has some great hops since we've seen him in action a number of times both live and on video. Like the DIII leader, Justin is also only 6'5" tall. Plattsburgh will have to contend with him tomorrow night and I'm worried.


Quote from: thebear on December 04, 2018, 08:46:16 PM
Bears win their 4th straight game since ????. 

Glad to see the Bears get their 4th win in a row.  8-)

Potsdam has to go all the way back to the 2005-06 season (12 years) to find the last time they had a 4 game winning streak. That streak started with a pair of road wins. First up was a 78-71 overtime win against Geneseo, on Saturday, February 4th 2006. The following Tuesday, the Bears defeated SUNYIT (now  SUNY Polytechnic) 85-52 down there. Potsdam then came home to win 3 more games against SUNYAC teams, taking down Buffalo State on Friday February 19th, 97-81 and Fredonia the next day by a 68-57 score. Just for good measure they won their next game on February 14th by beating the visiting Oswego Lakers 82-68. It was their last 4 or 5 game winning streak until this most recent one. They could match that 5 game winning streak by beating Geneseo on Friday night and I'm hoping that they will, but that will be tough job, taking down the Knights at home. If they do win on Friday the streak will end the next afternoon, when they invade Brockport. Don't see them pulling off the upset there. Would still be happy about their best 9 game start in 14 years.... (6-3 if  they beat Geneseo). Have to go back to the last time the Bears made the NCAA tournament....2004-05 and won their first 16 games on their way to the Sweet 16 and a final record of 27-4 to beat a 6-3 start.
Here's hoping they get it and more!  Go Bears!!  8-)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 07, 2018, 06:30:46 AM

I think Fitch is the active career leader, which might've been the intended reference.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 07, 2018, 07:59:52 AM
Magic - Thanks as always for clarification.  BTW the Bears are playing at Geneseo tonight, a much tougher order than Fredonia...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2018, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 07, 2018, 06:30:46 AM

I think Fitch is the active career leader, which might've been the intended reference.

Ryan,

Fitch is only a sophomore. He only has 96 total blocks and doesn't even make the Top 26 list that the NCAA shows. The active leader is senior Gbolahan Alliyu from Penn St. Harrisburg, with 210 blocks
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 07, 2018, 07:59:52 AM
Magic - Thanks as always for clarification.  BTW the Bears are playing at Geneseo tonight, a much tougher order than Fredonia...

My turn....Thanks for the clarification.... I'll make the correction. I knew that because the Bears play the same pair we play and I had a conversation with Coach Curle earlier on Thursday about the games the Cardinals had this weekend. I asked him if he wanted to play Brockport first or Geneseo. He said he would have preferred to play Brockport on Saturday. I must have had a "senior moment" to come up with Fredonia as the Bears' Friday night game. ::) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2018, 07:21:06 PM
A score was just posted to the Potsdam and Geneseo D3hoops  team pages as well as the D3hoops Friday scoreboard.  The box score was posted as well and it's a conglomeration of the women's game with women and some men listed as players. Quite the mixup that will ultimately get corrected I'm sure. But when I saw an 82-43 Geneseo win I was certainly surprised and wondered why the game was over when it was a 7:30 start. ;D ??? ::)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2018, 07:36:44 PM
Dec. 7  The basic Friday night package of 4 games with 8 YAC teams going at it all at 7:30 PM.
   

Potsdam State  @  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

My friend said the Bears are butter because they're on a roll...tonight that roll could get eaten in the first half. Geneseo has lost 3 straight games but they have all been on the road against quality opponents. They hung with Oswego and Cortland before losing by 10 and 9 points respectively.  They won't want to lose what looks like a winnable game on their home court. The Bears have 5 wins but none of them have come against a team with a winning record. The win over Oneonta was big though and it could be a sign that the Bears are not toothless anymore. The oddsmakers have the Knights listed as a 7 point favorite. I think the Bears will keep it closer but still come up short 75-71.     



   
Oswego State  @  Buffalo State              7:30 PM

Tonight we will see if the Lakers are who we thought they were!!  Tonight we will see if the Bengals are who we thought they were!! Oddsmakers have the undefeated Lakers winning this one by 7 points.  I think the final score will be Oswego 88 Buffalo State 83.


   
Cortland State  @  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

These Red Dragons should take care of business and win by a double digit margin. The point spread listed by the oddsmakers is 13. I think they win by a few more.  Cortland 94 Fredonia 69.



Plattsburgh State  @  Brockport State   7:30 PM  Featured Game of the Night


These two teams will trade punches all night long. They have each won 7 of the last 14 games they've played in the past 6 years.They have split the series in 2 of the past 3 years. The oddsmakers have the Cardinals listed as a slim 3 point favorite. Last year the Golden Eagles defeated Plattsburgh in Brockport 97-95, but the Cardinals didn't have Jon Patron in that game. With him I think we win tonight. Plattsburgh 93 Brockport 85.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2018, 08:27:40 PM
Plattsburgh leads Brockport 42-37 at the break. 

The Cards Jon Patron only played 8 minutes in the first half as he was saddled with 3 fouls quite early.

Justin Summers with 14 points and 8 rebounds are tops for the Golden Eagles. Tyler Collins with 7 points to help out.

Isaiah Hill has a double-double at the half with 10 points, 14 rebounds and 3 blocks to lead the Cardinals 

Chris Middleton with 10 points and 4 rebounds for Plattsburgh.

Adam Jaquish with 6 points and 3 rebounds off the bench.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2018, 08:32:26 PM
Potsdam and Geneseo locked in a tight one as the Knights lead 31-29 at the half.

Buffalo State ahead of Oswego 42-35 at halftime.


Cortland losing at halftime to Fredonia 34-32.  Could be the shocker of the night. I think Cortland will pull it out though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 08, 2018, 01:10:50 AM
3 games into the SUNYAC season and only 1 undefeated team still standing.   This season is definitely gonna be one for the books.  I'll let Magic and company do the recap!  Tough conference for sure!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on December 08, 2018, 02:00:36 PM
Thought the 5th foul on Patron was called very late and I thought it was a block.  Tough break for the Cardinals, but they still should have forced overtime.  The turnover under the basket with two seconds left was a tough play.  Definitely a foul.  Cards will rebound tonight!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 08, 2018, 03:47:57 PM
Dec. 8  Everyone in action today with 5 games taking place

No time to post the usual banter so here's some quick picks.


Plattsburgh State  @  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

Cardinals are favored by 6. I think they win by more.  Plattsburgh wins  83-70


Potsdam State  @  Brockport State        4:00 PM

Oddsmakers have the Golden Eagles listed as 11 point favorites. Hard to argue with that after they took down Plattsburgh last night. I don't see a letdown here. Brockport wins this one 87-75.


Cortland State  @  Buffalo State        4:00 PM  Featured Game of the Day

Cortland could be on the losing end of this one. Bengals don't want a lost weekend. Oddsmakers have the Red Dragon listed as a 4 point favorite. I'm thinking the Bengals win by an 81-78 final score.

   
Oneonta State  @   New Paltz   State     4:00 PM

These Red Dragons get back on the winning path as they take on their travel partners. Point spread has them listed as a 5 point favorite. I see them winning 88-80.


Oswego State  @ Fredonia State        4:00 PM

The Lakers are the last undefeated team left in the conference and they'll be that way at the end of the day as well. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 17 point favorite and they should cover the spread. Oswego wins 90-70
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2018, 12:17:05 AM
Momma said that it would be days like this :'( :'(!  Up by 7 at the half yesterday and up by 3 at the half today, my BENGALS had thier chances all weekend long.  Red Dragons finish the game on a 9-4 run to close out a very UNmemorable weekend at 1300 Elmwood.

Here's to hoping starter Jordan Christopher and sometimes starter Delen Ramovic will both be back in time for some Virginia sun next weekend .   I'm encouraged that this young team ( 1 senior) is learning what it takes to be a Yac champ.  Gotta play hard for 40 minutes...not 38.  With half the team already having scored in double figures, I know that they have the fire power to get it done. Stopping the other team, with consistency, is the challenge.  I know coach Ansari must be frustrated at some of the BENGALS finishes ( including giving up a 25 pt lead to Fredonia in last weekends 2nd half, to win by 11).  But I also know that he knows, he has one of the deepest teams ( 10 different starters in 7 games) in recent BUFF STATE memory.  He knows what's needed to get his boys back on track.  I'm betting that the BENGALS will get back in track. Thank GOD for every Yac team having 2 cracks at each other.  That's what makes the SUNYAC the best East conference league in D3 and a top tier conference overall. 

Get it done BUFF STATE. 

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 09, 2018, 02:06:23 PM
Last conference action until January 8.  Hope everyone enjoys the holidays!
(https://i.imgur.com/PGgk91n.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 09, 2018, 06:26:32 PM
Quote from: AllStar on December 09, 2018, 02:06:23 PM
Last conference action until January 8.  Hope everyone enjoys the holidays!
(https://i.imgur.com/PGgk91n.png)

Can't wait to see what that grid looks like in February!   Good luck to all in thier holiday non-conference games!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 10, 2018, 10:44:39 AM
The SUNYAC never disappoints. ;D
It's early in the season and things are already getting crazy.
Think this is going to be one unpredictable year.

Wishing everyone Happy Holidays.
Enjoy the time with your families.

Looking forward to 2019.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 10, 2018, 10:55:59 AM
Plus k for that All Star!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2018, 03:32:54 AM
Brockport's Justin Summers was named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week after his Golden Eagles went 2-0 in conference play and took down reigning YAC champs, Plattsburgh State, last Friday evening. Summers hit the game winning point as Brockport won it with 1 second left in the contest. With the score tied at 78, and the clock about to expire,  Summers got his hands on a loose ball that was a result of a blocked shot by Plattsburgh's Isaiah Hill. He quickly released the ball for the short putback but was fouled and went to the line and put Brockport in front by sinking the first free throw. Justin captured scoring honors in the Plattsburgh game with 21 points and did the same the next night against Potsdam with 23  points. He had a double-double in both games grabbing 14 rebounds against Plattsburgh and 18 against Potsdam. 

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

"CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference names Justin Summers (Brooklyn, N.Y. / Bushwick Campus) its Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week for the week ending December 9.

Brockport's Justin Summers was a key fixture for the Golden Eagles as they went 2-1 during the week, including two important victories of State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) opponents. In the first game of the week against Hobart College, Summers scored 17 points, while grabbing seven rebounds and blocking three shots in 26 minutes of play. Up next, the junior shined in the two battles over the weekend starting with an upset win against the No. 10 ranked Plattsburgh State. Summers was able to hit 9-of-12 shots from the free-throw line on his way to 21 points, 14 rebounds and recording another block in 36 minutes on the court. The final game of the weekend was a dominating performance over SUNY Potsdam. Summers scored 23 points and secured another double-double with a career high 18 rebounds, while collecting two blocks. Overall, Summers averaged 20.3 points per game, 13 rebounds a game and 2 blocks per game in 32.3 minutes per game. "

Congratulations to Justin on a great week.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2018, 04:47:38 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll was released Monday night and Plattsburgh State (8-1, 3-1) is ranked #14 with 297 points. The Cardinals dropped 4 spots from last week's poll and lost 71 points after losing their first game of the year. They were defeated by Brockport State on Friday December 7th by a single point when the Golden Eagles went to the line with 1 second left on the clock and made 1 of 2 from the stripe. It was 364 days since Plattsburgh had lost to a SUNYAC team, which was also Brockport back on December 8th, 2017 by a 2 point margin. The Cardinals had won 19 conference games in a row since that loss. A new streak was started on Saturday as Plattsburgh got back on the winning track with a victory at Geneseo.

Oswego State (8-0, 3-0) received 23 points in the "Others Receiving Votes" category,  which was almost double what they had gotten the week before.  On December 29th they will travel south and play an interesting game against Emory University in the Eagles Holiday Classic. Emory was ranked in the D3hoops Top 25 in the first 2 polls this year and were picked by the coaches of the University Athletic Association conference to win the league this year. If the Lakers come home from that tournament with a pair of wins and take care of business on Friday against St. Lawrence (0-2 already against the YAC) they could be in the Top 25 by early January. Keeping my fingers crossed for that to happen.


The University of Rochester is on the rise as the undefeated Yellowjackets (9-0) moved up from #17 to #13. Their point total increased from 230 to 305.


No other team in the East Region is receiving any support.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2018, 07:09:52 PM
Dec. 11
   
Only one game involving conference teams tonight as we go back to non-conference play over the next 4 weeks. The next
set of SUNYAC games will take place on Tuesday, January 8th, 2019.   

New Paltz State  @  Baruch        7:30 PM

The Hawks have a winning record this far into the season for the first time since December 7th, 2010, when they were 4-3 after 7 games. So what is their current winning record 8 years and a day later?....Exactly the same...a 4-3 record. In 2010 they lost their next game, when they were double digit underdogs against Montclair State and lost 88-76. It's deja vu all over again because just like 8 years ago, the oddsmakers have made the Hawks double digit dogs against Baruch. Favored by 10 points the Bearcats are 6-2 and own a win over Brockport State by 12 points back on November 20th.

I'm happy that Coach Kenny appears to be turning the New Paltz program around but he'll have his work cut out for him tonight.  I'd love to see the Hawks avenge the Bport loss but don't think it will happen. Lets go with the deja vu theme...the Bearcats win this one
88-76, but hope I'm wrong.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 11, 2018, 09:14:24 PM
New Paltz falls to Baruch 76-60.

The Hawks hung with them for most of the game. Several made baskets by New Paltz that were called charges and instead of a possible 3 point play saw them lose the points. They came at critical times and just hurt their push to cut further into the lead. Hawks were only down 51-45 with less than 10 minutes left in the game. The final score doesn't reflect how close the game was. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 12, 2018, 02:47:50 AM
Another undefeated East Region team goes down as #13 Rochester loses to Ithaca College 85-70 on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 12, 2018, 12:45:17 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2018, 02:47:50 AM
Another undefeated East Region team goes down as #13 Rochester loses to Ithaca College 85-70 on Tuesday night.

Wow  a 4-3 Ithaca beats U of Rochester?  Same Ithaca that lost to Cortland, at Ithaca, by 10, on Nov 27th. Hmmmmmm
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 14, 2018, 05:23:34 PM
Dec. 14     The only game on tap for today   

St. Lawrence   @  Oswego State        6:00 PM

The Lakers lead this series 6-4  over  the past 10 years and this game is usually a close contest but last year the Lakers blew the Saints away winning by 37 points 100-63. The Saints big man and go to guy, Riley Naclerio, got injured just prior to that game but he's back this year, for a final crack at the Lakers. The oddsmakers have listed Oswego as a 17 point favorite in this one. SLU has already lost to YAC teams Potsdam by 13 points and Plattsburgh by 29 points but have strung together 3 wins in a row for the first time in 22 months.  However the Lakers should have this game under control after the  first 10 minutes.   Oswego wins this one 83-69 to remain undefeated. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 14, 2018, 05:48:21 PM
Magicman....saw your name here....so I dropped in  :).  Hope you and yours are well and having fun.
Anyway....the lost by Rochester to Ithaca, MAY have been in part to what I label the "end of semester effect"..exams, etc.  In the Nescac, there have been a number of teams that played well one day and  poorly in the next game against weaker opponents.  All Nescac schools are in the Exam period now..I believe.  Middlebury does have a slightly different academic system, however.  Just my two bit piece of input.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 14, 2018, 09:08:13 PM
Oswego 68 SLU 50.  Think the Lakers may be the 300 pound gorilla in the NCAA East until someone steps up...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 15, 2018, 07:39:08 AM
Quote from: thebear on December 14, 2018, 09:08:13 PM
Oswego 68 SLU 50.  Think the Lakers may be the 300 pound gorilla in the NCAA East until someone steps up...

You may have something there Bear!  I saw Oswego up close and personal 2 weekends ago and they have a mixture of talent that doesn't seem to care who gets the shots, credit or headlines.  It will be interesting to see how they handle a 7-2 Emory in 2 weeks down in the dirty south !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2018, 10:54:51 AM
Oswego 68   St Lawrence 50

I had the Lakers winning by 14 with a bigger point total. The MOV was close though.

Oswego jumped out to an 8-0 start and never allowed the Saints to gain the lead. Up 14-6, Oswego let St. Lawrence tie the game at 14, before ripping off another 13-4 run, to go up 27-18 with 4 minutes left in the period. They were up 34-26 at the break.

The Lakers doubled up SLU 16-8 in the early going of the 2nd period to go up by a 50-34 margin with 12:45 left to play. Oswego was never really threatened from that point on and coasted home with the largest lead being the final score.

Oswego's Brandan Gartland captured scoring honors and led 4 Lakers in double digits with 23 points. He added 6 rebounds, 6 assists and drained 4 shots from downtown.

Joe Sullivan had a double-double with 15 points and 10 rebounds. He also added 5 assists and 2 steals to his sheet.

Tyler Pierre had 11 points, 8 rebounds and 2 blocks while Quinn Carey hit 4 shots from behind the arc to score 12 points.

Liam Sanborn only put 3 points on the board but had 6 assists and 6 rebounds with only 1 turnover in 36 minutes of play.

Oswego led in nearly all statistical categories which is usually the case when you win by double figures.

The Lakers improve to 9-0 (3-0 in the YAC) and match their best start in program history, I believe. They will look to set a program record 10-0 start when they return to action after the Christmas holiday.

They travel south to Atlanta, Georgia and will take on Emory University on December 29th at 4:00 in the Eagles Holiday Classic. Hopefully they will spoil the Eagles plans to go undefeated in their tournament. That will be a tough game as Emory ended last year in 12th place in the D3hoops Top 25 as they went 23-5. They were selected by the coaches of the University Athletic Association (UAA) to capture the league's championship this year. The UAA does not have a conference tournament to determine who gets their automatic NCAA bid as that always goes to the regular season champion. D3hoops listed them as the 18th ranked team in their preseason poll, but they have since stumbled a bit and aren't currently ranked.

Oswego State is currently receiving votes in the "Others Receiving Votes" category of D3hoops Top 25. The Lakers were in 31st place in the last poll. If they win their next 2 games and if Plattsburgh State, with games against a NESCAC team...Wesleyan on December 19th, and a  UAA team....Case Western Reserve on December 20th, should win those games, then the possibility of 2 SUNYAC teams ranked in the Top 25 poll for the first time in a long, long, time (if ever), could happen.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2018, 02:04:45 PM
Dec. 15                   Two YAC teams hit the hardwood today   


Cortland State  @   SUNY-Old Westbury        2:00 PM

The Red Dragons are favored by 11 points in this one and they should win by that margin or more.They need to take care of business and not let a lesser team hang around, though. Hope that doesn't happen today. Cortland in recent years has lost some of these very winnable games. Cortland 84  Old Westbury  75.



Buffalo State  @  Bridgewater (Va.)        7:30 PM


The Bengals won't have an easy time in today's contest and are 6 point underdogs according to the oddsmakers. I like the way they have been playing lately and but for a few bad bounces could easily be 6-1 instead of 3-4. I think their luck changes today, plus they have always done well in the holiday tournaments. People have been telling me Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays so it's not too early to call this a holiday tournament. Bengals win and spoil the Eagles Holiday Classic...Buffalo State 86 Bridgewater 81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2018, 02:27:15 PM
Trying to bring up the video stream for the Cortland game from both Cortland and Old Westbury's web page but can't get the video to load. The live stats link is working but wanted to see the game.  Is it just me or is it a transmitting problem and no one can get it.?  Would appreciate any reply.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Cortland gets a 3 pointer from Nicky Bonura, as the clocks winds down to end the first half, and it gives the Red Dragons a 38-37 halftime advantage. It was only Bonura's 15th-16th and 17th points in the period, as he goes 5-6 from long distance. Justin Cooper helped out with 10 markers amd 6 rebounds.

Cortland guys need to come out of the locker room and make a statement early in the 2nd half and take the Panthers out of their comfort zone. Need the big guy to get hot inside. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
Cortland 96   Old Westbury76

The Red Dragons did just what they needed to do after the break and took the game right away from the Panthers. The intermission didn't cool Nicky Bonura down as he matched his exact first half output by scoring another 17 points to wind up with scoring honors of 34 points. He drained another 4 shots from behind the arc to wind up with nine 3 pointers for the game. He also added 5 rebounds, 2 steals and  assist. 

Cortland, fueled by 9 points from Bonura and 7 points from Justin Cooper, outscored Old Westbury 21-11 over the first 5 and a half minutes of the half to gain a double digit lead of 59-38. With 14 minutes on the clock Ryan Schmadel, who was scoreless at that point in the game, decided to see how quickly he could reach double figures. He buried 3 shots from downtown in 57 seconds and the Red Dragons had a 17 point lead. at 68-51. Two minutes later he added a 4th triple to give him his 12 points for the game and this one was basically over. Cooper was on the same bandwagon as he ended up with 25 points on 9x12 from the field, 1x1 from deep and 6x6 from the stripe. The Red Dragons got another pair of long distance buckets, in succession, from Bonura and the lead ballooned to the largest of the night at 21 for Cortland.

Cortland's Kenny Charles just missed a double with 9 points and 9 rebounds. He added 3 assists and a block. Zach Lydon didn't score but grabbed 5 rebounds had 2 assists and a block.

Cortland improves to 6-2 overall (3-1 in the conference) and will take a break until December 29th when they travel to Pittsford, N.Y. to take on the Keystone College Giants in a holiday tournament hosted by St. John Fisher. The Giants will be playing their 3rd team from the SUNYAC this season having already played and lost 91-73 to Oneonta to open their schedule back in November. They also have a game on Monday Dec. 17th when they will host the Potsdam State Bears.  They could be 0-3 in the YAC and occupy our non-con basement with St. Lawrence and Clarkson.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2018, 08:44:25 PM
Buffalo State losing to Bridgewater (Va) by a 46-39 score at the half.

Dom Grayer and Ryniek Holloway lead the Bengals with 9 points each.

The Bengals need to play with a bit more discipline. Lots of turnovers (16 in the first half) and a number of chances to put easy points on the board fall by the wayside.

Buff State should be leading this game by 7 not trailing.  Hoping the guys get their act together this half....Go Bengals! A win over an ODAC school would help the entire conference 's SOS.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2018, 09:40:15 PM
Buffalo State falls to Bridgewater (Va) 96-89.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2018, 05:41:25 AM
Dec. 16     Two games today involving teams from the SUNYAC


Buffalo State    vs  Eastern Mennonite        12:00 PM   @ Bridgewater, Va.

The Bengals facing another ODAC team and looking to end 2018 on a winning note in their 2nd game of the Bridgewater Holiday Classic Tournament. Eastern Mennonite has been listed as a 1 point favorite by the oddsmakers, making this game essentially a tossup. I was all in on the Bengals in yesterday's contest and they made me a loser so I'd be a fool to do the same thing today against a similar opponent. Oh well, I've been called worse things than a fool...Bengals get one more chance from me and win this one over the Royals, 89-83....but this is their last chance. Buff State loses and I'll consign them to the depths of Fredonia.   


   
Gallaudet vs  Brockport        2:00 PM   Mauro Panaggio Tournament hosted by Brockport State in Daytona Florida

The Golden Eagles are big favorites in this game as the oddsmakers have them winning this matchup by 22 points. It looks like Gallaudet is the typical fodder for the host school to guarantee that the host school makes an appearance in the championship game. Gallaudet is 1-8 this season and their 1 win was against an opponent who is 1-9. They usually lose by double figures  and play in one of the weakest conferences in all of Division III. I could go on but... you get the picture. Teams like this have nothing to lose so they leave it all on the floor. The Golden Eagles better take care of them early so they don't hang around and get their hopes up. I'm sure they will...get taken care of early, that is.....Brockport 94 Gallaudet 66.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on December 16, 2018, 10:55:16 AM
Magicman.....saw your name on the boards today and read your posts....there are games today?!.  Anyway, your mention of a game with Gallaudet by Brockport brought back some very, very old memories.  The Gallaudet College was in the Wash. D.C. area of my youth.  The present football and athletic areas were open fields when I was in elementary school.  Several classmates in Jr. High on Capital Hill lived on the College campus...their father was a prof. at the Deaf/Dumb College.  Am amazed that the school now participates in D3 athletics such as football and basketball.  Yes, I am quite naive in this area.  I remember when the Un. of Md, College Park was recruiting a talented player who would not play during the Sabbeth...like Yeshiva Un.players. Much discussion in the local papers on the matter of religious restrictions. A roommate in grad school was a grad of Yeshiva Un. and followed food and other religious restrictions.  A little off track...but an possible reason for why Gallaudet may have a poor record.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2018, 07:28:58 AM
Eastern Mennonite 90  Buffalo State 85

I was only 3 points off on my total of 89-83, but once again Buffalo State can't get me the win as they fall 90-85 to Eastern Mennonite. Bengals led for much of the first half, by as many as 9 points on several occasions and went into the break up by 4 at 47-43. The 2nd half brought 8 ties and 5 lead changes until the Royals, down 72-70 with 6:48 remaining, put together 10 unanswered points to go in front 80-72 with 4:30 on the clock. The closest the Bengals could get was 5 points as the Royals made 5x7 shots from the field and 4x7 from the line in the final 5 minutes of play.

Sheldon Adams led 5 Bengals in double figures with 16 points. He added 6 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists.

Kay Grant had a double-double with 15 points and 10 rebounds along with 3 steals.

Ryniek Holloway also had 15 points, 3 assisys, 2 boards and a steal.

Kareem Holmes scored 12 points, had 8 assists, 4 rebounds, a steal and a block.

Dom Grayer also had 12 points, with 6 boards an assist and a steal.

The Bengals drop to 3-6 overall (1-2 YAC) and will be off for the next 22 days until they host Brockport on January 8th at 7:30 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2018, 03:25:03 PM
   Not the ending to 2018 that I had hoped for. I'm glad I took this past weekend off to drive down to VA and support my BENGALS. I see why the ODAC is Massey's 9th ranked conference in D3. I Had hoped for a better performance but alas it wasn't there.  Saturday vs Bridgewater was a tough 1. Not to mention the fact that 3 players (Adams. Christopher and Ramovic) who average a combined 25.1 points , didn't dress for the game. To loose by 7 after missing 9 free throws hurts even more. 16 turnovers in 1st half didn't help my BENGALS cause either.

  Turnovers plagued my BENGALS on Saturday too (19 total). I must say that I was encouraged by Kay Grant's nearly double double weekend (15 boards 9 rebounds), Dom Grayer's somewhat subpar performance that still netted him 37 points for the weekend and Ryniek "Doc" Holloway coming off the bench to average 12.5 pts over the weekend. I'm glad to know that there's no Yac team that can put nearly 8 players on the court at 6' 5 or taller like Eastern Mennonite U can .  I can't remember seeing a team that big in years. Having a 6'7 (#34) come off the bench to relieve another 6'7 (#32) is more than a notion. They grow big down in the ODAC!

   Well its on to strictly SUNYAC games after the 1st of the year. A 2-4 Non-conference record isn't exactly a thing of beauty, but with a team with only 1 senior on it, I feel that the future is extremely bright. I don't expect many non-believers to believe in BENGALs  however I go to sleep knowing that I, and many like me, believe in the the Buffalo State BENGALS . Undoubtedly time will tell who's what in the SUNYAC, however last time I checked no one gets the Yac title in December. That doesn't happen for a couple of months.

  I'm proud of the fact that Coach Ansari didn't schedule a bunch of cupcakes to fatten up the BENGALS non conference record. In fact all, but 1 of the  6 Buff State opponents, have a winning record as of today (and that "1" is Bridgewater state at 5-5). Not 1 team has a losing record ( with out checking I seriously doubt that any other SUNYAC team can say the same). Some Yac teams, have (IMHO) opinion , loaded up on cupcakes in their non conference schedule to help make themsleves look better before Jan.    For instance there's a Yac team that has beaten 2   0-9 teams. 1   2-7 team, 1   5-5 team and 1 team with a winning record 5-3.  I'm not gonna mention that teams name because dogging a fellow Yac member is bush league (IMH0) however facts are facts. In FACT, Buffalo State is the only Yac team that has not played any non - conference teams with a losing record as of today! ( I went ahead and looked it up)

   I know that Coach Ansari could have easily loaded up his schedule with the same cupcakes, but he choose to schedule tough teams...from tough conferences i e ODAC is # 9th ranked conference and Ohio Athletic conference (OAC) is ranked #3 in d3 hoops. So while others may thump their chest about beating teams with a combined 12- 33 record, I'm proud that my BENGALS choose NOT to go that way. 

  I want my BENGALS to be at the top of their game in Feb...not December.  I'm reminded of a saying that my grandma used to say.... "Those who love us...love us well, those who don't, can go to..(fill in )."    I love my BENGALS!

Happy Holidays YAC family!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 17, 2018, 05:32:42 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 16, 2018, 10:55:16 AM
the Deaf/Dumb College

Yikes. Dude. Let's leave "dumb" in the trash bin of history, please?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2018, 06:03:42 PM
Dec. 17

Potsdam State @  Keystone        6:00 PM

The Bears are favored in this game by a double digit margin. Can't remember the last time that happened. I hope they get a win tonight as Keystone is a long way to go to play a single game and go home with a loss. Oddsmakers have them listed as a 10 point winner. I think they win also.   Final score Potsdam 85 Keystone 72.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 17, 2018, 10:03:17 PM
Bears win 81-69.  With 4:25 left Bears led by 27 and pulled their regulars.  Keystone went on an 18-3 run to end the game.

Bears at the break 6-5 overall 2-2 in the 'yac.  Dante Langley and Nosa Onabor shared game honors for the Bears with 20 pts each.

Bears off until Jan 8th when they visit Memorial Hall in the 'burgh.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 18, 2018, 01:21:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 17, 2018, 05:32:42 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 16, 2018, 10:55:16 AM
the Deaf/Dumb College

Yikes. Dude. Let's leave "dumb" in the trash bin of history, please?

I couldn't agree more with you Pat!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2018, 05:47:17 AM
Forgot that the Brockport Golden Eagles had a game on Monday and checking the site I use to get the point spread they weren't listed so it slipped right by me. I would have picked the Golden Eagles to win the game against Washington and Lee by an 83-80 final....and I would have been wrong.


Washington and Lee 75   Brockport State 66  Final score.

The Generals, after trailing by as many as 9 points on several occasions, gained a slight 24-23 lead with 8 minutes left in the first half. They were down 23-14 but used a (gulp) 19-0 run to put the Golden Eagles in their rear view mirror. Brockport got their 23rd point on a layup by last week's YAC Player of the Week, Justin Summers, with 11:55 remaining in the period. The Generals started their big run and Port never scored again until the clock read 5:15, on a jumper by Chris Atkinson. 6 minutes and 40 seconds had elasped in between those Brockport scores.  They didn't do that against Plattsburgh last weekend I can tell you that. ??? Note to Coach Dunne.....I know it's the holidays and all but if your're going to give away presents like that at least give them to a YAC team and not some stranger. Hope that doesn't happen again...even against Plattsburgh the next time we meet. (Two or three minutes without scoring, repeated several times during the game, will be fine. ;D)

The Generals led by as many as 13 points at 38-25 with 3:33 to play. Now it was Port's turn to close the gap as Antonio Alvarez scored the final 8 points of the half on a pair of 3 pointers, followed by a layup and the Golden Eagles headed to the locker room down 38-33.

Brockport came all the way back to tie the game up at 44 all with 13:39 left in the game. The Generals refused to surrender the lead, though, and when crunch time arrived at about the 7:30 mark it was the Golden Eagles who got crunched. Down 56-54 at that point of the game, Port got outscored 9-0 to once again fall behind by double digits. They never got closer than 5 points as the Generals hit 7 of 8 from the line, down the stretch, to close them out.

Justin Summers led the Golden Eagles with 23 points and had a game high 12 boards. He added 3 assists and a pair of blocks.

Chris Atkinson dropped in 13 points, with 6 assists, 3 steals, and 2 rebounds.

Devante Hagins had 10 points, 8 boards, 4 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assists.

Brockport falls to 6-4 (3-1 SUNYAC) and will be off until January 4th when they travel to Alfred University for their final non-conference game at 7:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2018, 07:34:53 AM
The SUNYAC annouced the Player of the Week last night and it's no surprise that Nicky Bonura was selected after the huge game he had against Old Westbury on Saturday December 15th.  Congratulations to Nicky who gave us his best Stephen Curry imitation with his nine 3 pointers. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected Cortland senior Nicky Bonura (Mount Kisco, N.Y. / Fox Lane) as its Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Bonura scored a career-high 34 points, including a career-high tying nine three-pointers, in Cortland's 96-76 win at Old Westbury Saturday. He finished 9-of-14 from the arc (11-of-19 overall) and 3-for-3 from the foul line, and also added five rebounds and two steals. His nine three-pointers are one shy of matching the school single-game record. Bonura accounted for half of Cortland's school team record-tying 18 made 3-pointers in the victory.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 18, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: amh63 on December 16, 2018, 10:55:16 AM
Magicman.....saw your name on the boards today and read your posts....there are games today?!.  Anyway, your mention of a game with Gallaudet by Brockport brought back some very, very old memories.  The Gallaudet College was in the Wash. D.C. area of my youth.  The present football and athletic areas were open fields when I was in elementary school.  Several classmates in Jr. High on Capital Hill lived on the College campus...their father was a prof. at the Deaf/Dumb College.  Am amazed that the school now participates in D3 athletics such as football and basketball.  Yes, I am quite naive in this area.  I remember when the Un. of Md, College Park was recruiting a talented player who would not play during the Sabbeth...like Yeshiva Un.players. Much discussion in the local papers on the matter of religious restrictions. A roommate in grad school was a grad of Yeshiva Un. and followed food and other religious restrictions.  A little off track...but an possible reason for why Gallaudet may have a poor record.

I echo Pat's calls to get rid of "dumb" from the lexicon, okay?

Also, their poor record has nothing to do with what you remember of the university. They actually have had some pretty solid teams over the years and have, arguably, one of the top 20 women's players I've seen play (Rhonda Jo Miller - partially responsible for my deep involvement with DIII basketball to this day).

Their football program is actually credited with creating the huddle ... and has existed as a football program since 1883 - though it has had years as a club organization. Also, the big bass drum in college football is thought to have originated with Gallaudet who used to use it for snap count information until about ten years ago (current Stevenson head coach Ed Hottle moved them away from the drum).

I played against Gallaudet when I was a student-athlete. While it was a different environment ... there is no "amazement" they participate. There are very talented people in all walks of life who just happen to be deaf.

Again ... no idea why your "memories" of Gallaudet would lead to some how "explaining" why they have a poor record. The men's team was 20-7 in the 2016-17 season, BTW.

Oh, last note on the Bison: their Assistant Athletic Director for Communications, Sam Atkinson, is this year's men's basketball national committee. He is able hearing, but he is also bilingual in sign. Their women's coach is also on the NCAA Women's Basketball Rules committee.

The individual you are talking about the Maryland was recruiting was the WAY over hyped Tamir Goodman. The "Jewish Jordan" was not nearly as talented as his public relations machine that swooped up not only the local markets, but national ones as well, that he was some how an incredible player. Maryland made arrangements to deal with the Sabbath restrictions, but it turned out Tamir wasn't nearly good enough to play in D1. He transferred after a year to Towson and still never materialized into anything. Unfortunately, Tamir missed a golden opportunity to go to Yeshiva and play there where I think he would have flourished and his college career would have actually turned into something.

Interesting side note to the Goodman story: his high school coach, Harold Katz, was very involved in the Goucher program in the early 2000s (while he was HS coach and after the Goodman experience). His son, Daniel, is a junior and starter at Yeshiva.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 18, 2018, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 17, 2018, 03:25:03 PM
     I'm proud of the fact that Coach Ansari didn't schedule a bunch of cupcakes to fatten up the BENGALS non conference record.

Bengals, Coaches don't know most of the time when they [or the asst AD that] makes up the schedule, who the "cupcakes" are going to be. 

For example, my Bears have played and outscored two 0-9 teams, but last year Clarkson was 12-13 and were 8-10 in their conference, no one expected them to be 0-9 at the Break. 
Keystone the other 0-9 team was 11-15 last year, and 9-9 in their conference, so the 11-14 [2017-18] Bears actually scheduled two teams with better or equal records to their own.

The also agreed to play in the WPI tournament and WPI is currently 9-0 and currently ranked 27th in Massey, who is better at this point than anyone the Bengals have played.

In addition there is a tradition here, because of limited travel budgets and the fact that two tiny towns 11 miles apart have 4 [1% of the entire Division] Division 3 teams, that we play each other.  The Bears played and outscored all of their local rivals this year for the first time in a while.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2018, 04:12:41 PM
Dec. 19    Two teams in action today hoping to enjoy the warm weather after winning a game...here's hoping!
   

Plattsburgh State  vs  Wesleyan        4:00 PM      HoopMia Holiday Slam at Miami, Fla.   

The Cardinals take on the Cardinals of Wesleyan University in an all Redbird matchup. I believe this will be the first ever meeting between the two schools.  I know the Cardinals will come out on top, hopefully it will be the northernmost Cardinals.

Wesleyan is 6-3 coming into this game with all 3 losses coming against quality teams. Two of them are ranked in the D3hoops Top 25 poll. They lost to #2 Williams 80-65 on December 1st and dropped a games to #16 Nichols, 85-66 on November 20th. Their other loss was to an 8-2 Eastern Connecticut team that is picked to win th Little East Conference. Austin Hutcherson and Jordan Bonner are high scoring guards that lead this team in nearly all categories. They both have good size with Hutcherson 6'6" and Bonner 6'4".  Hutcherson is averaging 17.5 ppg  and Bonner is dropping them in at  15.8 ppg. Hutcherson leads the team in assists with 3.1 pg and Bonner is the leading rebounder with 9.4. The Plattsburgh Cardinals will have their work cut out  for them keeping this pair under control.

Plattsburgh has the players to counter with as Jon Patron leads the way. Jon is  averaging a double-double of 24.1 ppg and 10.7 rpg. with 3.0 assists per game. Brandon Johnson is averaging 14.2 ppg and 4.4 assists per game.  Chris Middleton and Nick DeAngelis both average over 12 ppg and Ian Howard is grabbing 8.3 rebounds per game to go with his 5.8 ppg. Isaiah Hill is scoring 7.2 ppg and has 6.0 rpg.

This should be a good game and the oddsmakers have installed Plattsburgh as a 4 point favorite. Plattsburgh is looking to go 2-0 in the NESCAC conference as they got a win over #24 Middlebury 2 weeks ago.

I think the Plattsburgh Cardinals will get the win here by an 83-75 final score.   



Oneonta State  @  Chapman        9:00 PM     Orange, California

Oneonta goes to Southern Cal and gets back on the winning trail with a win over Chapman. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 6 point underdog and it's hard for an east coast team to make that trip and win (the Cardinals of Plattsburgh State couldn't do it back in 2007-08 when they were 27-3, losing a game out there to Occidental) but i think the Red Dragons can win this game. Final score...Oneonta 78 Chapman 73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2018, 04:54:27 PM
Plattsburgh trails Wesleyan 39-38 at the half.

SUNYAC Cardinals get 9 points each from Chris Middleton and Brandon Johnson. 8 points each from Jon Patron and Isaiah Hill. Patron is the game's leading rebounder with 6 but I think he has more than that.

Three point shooting hurting Plattsburgh as they are only 2 for 12 from deep.  Need to make a few more or work it inside. Wesleyan 4x14 from long range. Our Cards are 2x4 from the line. The other Cards are 5x10.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 02:19:27 AM
Plattsburgh State 73  Wesleyan (Ct.)  84

I had the Cardinals winning 83-75 so I was pretty close except it was the wrong Cardinals on the right end of the score. The teams put on a good game but the Plattsburgh Redbirds got a little sloppy on a few occasions and it came back to bite them as the deep hole they dug earlier was too much to overcome. The first half was a tight affair with numerous lead changes and Wesleyan managed to go up by a single point, 39-38 at the break.

The 2nd half started out well as a basket by Ian Howard gave Plattsburgh the lead 40-39, but it was the last time those Cardinals would be ahead. Wesleyan used a 10-2 spurt fueled by 7 points from Austin Hutcherson to go in front 49 to 42. Still up by a 51-46 score, Wesleyan used another 13-0 run, capped by back to back steals, to push the lead to the largest of the game at 18 points with 11:28 remaining.

Plattsburgh was on life support but got a lifeline when Jon Patron hit back to back 3's on two trips down the court. After both teams came up empty, Plattsburgh on a heat check by Patron and Wesleyan also on a missed long ball, Plattsburgh's Nick DeAngelis hit a 3 pointer and the 18 point lead had been cut in half with 8:51 still left. Plattsburgh hung with Wesleyan with more back and forth play as the lead shifted from 7 to 11 points. With 3:47 to play Plattsburgh got a pair of free throws from Isaiah Hill to cut it to 7 and then Brandon Johnson got a steal and a jumper to narrow the lead to 5. The Cards Coach Curle called a time out and now, only down 2 possessions, the possibility of coming all the way back was a viable option. Wesleyan was fouled and went to the line, making both to lead by 7, but Patron came down and buried another 3 to get within 4 points. With 2:36 left to play and needing a stop Plattsburgh got a turnover with a steal by Hill. We gave it back to them 5 seconds later when they got a steal and Hill fouled the Wesleyan player to prevent the easy basket. He made both freebies in what was a momentum changer. Still the Plattsburgh guys hung tough as Hill was fouled and he made them both to keep the lead at 4 points. Now we really needed a stop but Wesleyan's go to guy, Hutcherson, scored inside on a short jumper and on the ensuing Plattsburgh possession Hutcherson got a steal and a dunk to put an exclamation point on the game. Down 8 points at 78-70 with 1:16 left we had to hope the 3's would fall and their free throws wouldn't. They went 6 for 6 from the line, while we got a freebie and a 2 point jumper.

Wesleyan is a solid team and should make the NESCAC playoffs but we played far from our best game. Like our other loss to Brockport, we didn't shoot well from behind the arc, only making 6 of 27. We were only 9 of 15 from the line but that didn't really matter. Our game went south for one stretch that enabled Wesleyan to grab a substantial lead and that proved to be the difference. Hopefully we can comeback tomorrow against another team from a DIII power conference, Case Western Reserve University, from the University Athletic Association. Should be another good game.

Jon Patron led the Plattsburgh Cardinals with an other double-double of 19 points and a game high 13 rebounds. I swear he had 20 rebounds. The announcers doing the game said the same thing over and over. They thought he had a dozen at halftime when he was only credited with 6. They were amazed that a guy of Jon's height was, time and again, getting the boards despite being shorter than most of the guys under the hoop.

Brandon Johnson had 15 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds and a steal.

Isaiah Hill had 14 points, 5 rebounds and a steal.

Chris Middleton had 13 points, 3 rebounds and a steal in 12 minutes.

Plattsburgh had a slim lead with 40 rebounds to 38 and Wesleyan had just 10 turnovers to 12 for the SUNYAC team.

Wesleyan outshot Plattsburgh in all 3 categories with the free throw line the major difference. We were 9x15 they were 17x25, but 6 of those made freebies were at the end of the game.

Plattsburgh falls to 8-2 (3-1 YAC) and will be back on the court  later today against Case Western Reserve at 2:00 PM, for their final game in the  HoopMia Holiday Slam at Miami Florida.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 02:41:31 AM
In the run up to the Cardinals midweek holiday games in Florida,  I didn't even notice that D3hoops had a new Top 25 poll out. I saw the headlines showing the Women 's new poll but when I clicked on it there was no Men's Poll there and no rotating story showing a headline about a new Men's Poll appearing on the front page of D3hoops.. I thought the next one would come out after the New Year but....there was a new poll released on Monday night....I just missed it. 

Plattsburgh State moved up 1 spot and is now #13 with 285 points. We did lose a few points as we had 297 last week.

Rochester dropped from #13 to #17. They had 305 points last week and got 197 this week.

Oswego State gained some ground in the "Others Receiving Votes" category and is now at #30 with 28 points. Last week they were 31st with 23 points. They continue to inch their way up.

Here's the link to the complete poll:   https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/week4
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 04:33:54 AM
Oneonta 82 Chapman 69

I thought the score would be a bit closer but I guess if you are a fire breathing, frequent flying dragon, these cross country trips don't affect you with jet lag like it does normal people. I had Oneonta winning this game by a 78-73 final score. Now I don't need to be a nuclear physicist to see that both those sets of numbers add up to 151. So I got the total right on the money (we get lucky once in a while).

Oneonta pretty much led this game from start to finish except for the opening  minute. Chapman scored 2 free throws when Ian Schultz was called for a foul 23 seconds after the opening tip and the Panther player made them both to go up 2-0. 22 seconds later Sean Nolan scored to tie the game at 2-2 and 19 seconds later Harrison Deegan laid one in to give the Red Dragons the lead. The Panthers would only get to within 2 points on 1 other occasion in the game. Oneonta went up 11-2 then 21-11 and 29-15 forcing the Panthers to play catch up and they never could. Chapman did close the gap to 40-32 at the half.

The Red Dragons weren't able to put the Panthers away and the lead shifted from 5 to 8 points for the first 4 minutes of the 2nd period. Then Chapman, down 7,  hit a layup and buried a three to pull within a deuce, at 46-44, with about 16 minutes left to play. Oneonta's Kevin Mackin swished a long ball and Ian Schultz who was scoreless in the first half scored inside and was fouled. The lead was back to 8 points and Oneonta had their comfort zone back and never lost it. With 9:43 to go the lead was 10 points at 60-50 and with 5 minutes to go it was 71-62. Oneonta really put the hurt on with a 9-1 run that made it 80-63 with 2:31 to go.  It didn't matter then what the final score would end up.

Kevin Mackin led all scorers with 17 points, 3 rebounds, and 1 assist.

Harrison Deegan had 15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds, a steal and a block.

Ian Schultz scored 11 points all in the 2nd half.

Emmanuel Oyakhilome just missed a double-double with 9 points and a game high 11 rebounds.

Dylan Trombly had 10 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds a steal and a block in 19 minutes off the bench.

Andres Rivera had 8 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

AC Kirkwood had 9 rebounds 5 points an assist and a block.

Oneonta stops the bleeding and gets a win following a 4 game losing streak. The are now 4-4 overall and 0-3 in the YAC. They return to action later today against La Verne another team from the SCIAC conference that Chapman is in. Game time is 5:00 PM     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 05:43:58 AM
Dec. 20   Same two YAC teams as yesterday, up again, to finish their business in the sun.

   
Plattsburgh State  vs  Case Western Reserve        2:00 PM 2018 HoopMia Holiday Slam @ Miami, Fla. (Barry Univ.)

I was hoping the Cardinals went to visit the Magic Kingdom last night but it's probably too far from where they are staying. They need some magic and I'm 1500 miles from where they are. Was hoping Walt and the magic makers would sprinkle a little of that dust that Tinkerbell carried around. It certainly couldn't hurt as the Cardinals could lose their 2nd game in a row for the first time in over a year.

Case Western Reserve played yesterday and defeated Widener University 80-70. They have a 7-2 record and play in the same conference as Rochester and NYU. Once again we are playing a team we have never met before. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh an 8 point favorite in this game. I hope the other team knows that and plays accordingly. The Spartans, like another team we've faced over the last 5 years, Skidmore, have a player on their team from Lithuania, Ignas Masiulionis. Ignas is a 6'2" sophomore guard, who leads the team in scoring with a 12.1 ppg.  Antonio Ionadi, another 6'2" sophomore guard is close behind with 11.9 ppg. Michael Hollis is their big guy who averages just shy of a double-double with 9.4 ppg and 9.6 rpg. He is a 6'6" junior forward.

I think the Cardinals are not happy that they lost on Wednesday and the next few days of their Florida vacation along with the flight back home will be much more fun if the last thing they did on the court today was walk off a winner. I'll take Plattsburgh to win this one by a final score of 88-81.   


   
Oneonta State  @  La Verne        5:00 PM

The Red Dragons got their trip off to a good start and today they would like start a winning streak. La Verne is the 2nd team they get to play from the Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. Chapman was also from the SCIAC and I think Chapman was the better of the two teams that Oneonta will play. The oddsmakers had them favored by 6 over Chapman yesterday and today they have them favored by 7 over La Verne. The Panthers are only 1-6 coming into this game and and that 1 win was over a 2-9 team. I'm taking Oneonta to win by more than the 7 point spread. Red Dragons crunch the Leopards 87-72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 20, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
Magicman
The only one that can get Plattsburgh back on track today is YOU. You are their MAGIC KINGDOM.
Get that MAGIC WAND out and Click your heels 3 times and repeat after me, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals.

Let's go Cardinals, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on December 20, 2018, 02:09:04 PM
You know guys it feels great to be back on the D3 Hoops blog. I mean the blog made The Law Firm a legend. But you know something, something happened. And then The Magic Man turned his back on me. The Magic Man drove me out of the blog. I'm the reason all you people are here. I'm the one who put the blog on the map. I'm the one who made the blog as big as it is today. There's nobody in this business that's a bigger icon than I am. I'm the biggest star past or present in the D3 Hoops world today. And they'll never ever be a bigger star than "Hollywood" Law Firm!!!

MAGIC MAN! I have had enough. It is no secret I am a supporter of a certain team in the SUNYAC. I can no longer take you bashing my team, and not holding your team to the same standard. How dare you sir. How dare you put our name in the same breath as Fredonia (no disrespect). Play by the rules, when Plattsburgh looses, the fans want a write up, and a legit one not "I swear he had 20 rebounds. The announcers doing the game said the same thing over and over. They thought he had a dozen at halftime when he was only credited with 6. They were amazed that a guy of Jon's height was, time and again, getting the boards despite being shorter than most of the guys under the hoop." I, hell WE won't stand for it anymore! You throw my team under the bus and are very quick to dismiss and undermine us, but go into hiding and make excuses when the cards loose. You bet your ass a floppy slice is coming your way after a loss this year!!

Happy holidays gentlemen, peace and love. Law Firm out

LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 20, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
Magicman
The only one that can get Plattsburgh back on track today is YOU. You are their MAGIC KINGDOM.
Get that MAGIC WAND out and Click your heels 3 times and repeat after me, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals.

Let's go Cardinals, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

All-Time,
I been clicking those Ruby Reds all morning long. Even brought them to my doctor's visit early today to make sure they weren't ill and were still full of grace. They weren't and they are. I think we might have our mojo back.... in the Cardinal's nest where it belongs. Go Plattsburgh!!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 20, 2018, 03:01:55 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 20, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
Magicman
The only one that can get Plattsburgh back on track today is YOU. You are their MAGIC KINGDOM.
Get that MAGIC WAND out and Click your heels 3 times and repeat after me, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals, There's no BETTER team than my Plattsburgh Cardinals.

Let's go Cardinals, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Damn All Time. For a minute there I thought that you were switching teams and leaving your Red Dragons!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 03:28:14 PM
Plattsburgh leads Case Western Reserve 39-25 at the half .

Chris Middleton with 9 points, Nick DeAngelis with 9 points Jon Patron with 8 points and Brandon Johnson with 7 points,
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 05:39:43 PM
Law Firm,

Sorry you seem so out of sorts. Not sure if you're really ticked off or trying to pull my leg. Anyway I don't think you'v been following these boards all that long, cause if you were you'd know that I'm a pretty big Buffalo State fan. The other Buffalo State fan that frequents this board can attest to that fact. And I go back to the days when Randy Smith played for Buffalo State and can say that I saw him play, live and in person, when he was wearing the Orange and Black. And of course was amazed at his talent. Not many guys on D3hoops can say they saw...arguably the greatest SUNYAC player of them all, play when he was in college. That was in the late 60's. I was a couple of years ahead of him. Were you more than a gleam in your Dad's eye at that time? ;D

If I criticize a team from time to time it's generally because they deserve it and I haven't always spared the Cardinals. I have interacted with lots of players, their parents and their coaches from many of the SUNYAC teams over the years. Even the ones that came to our house and kicked our butt. A Bengal named Jake Simmons did exactly that a few years ago and remains one of my favorite Buffalo State players. Jake put up 37 against us with nine 3 pointers and it was a pretty special night for him and the romp they had in Memorial Hall.  Justin Mitchell was another one who was a big time Bengal player and one of my favorites. I interacted with these guys whenever they came to town and truly missed it when they graduated and I could no longer visit with them. My attempts at humor aren't meant to be hurtful...I want every team in the SUNYAC to be good or to be better than a 1 or 2 win team. This year and last year it's Fredonia (and I sincerely hope they win some games this year) but recently I was saying the same things about New Paltz and Potsdam State (and Potsdam State is my alma mater). Both those teams have started to turn around their programs bit by bit. I hope Fredonia is the next team to do that. My comparison of the Bengals to the Blue Devils was  mainly to spoof my Bengal friend and I'm sure I'll pick Buff State to beat other teams they will be up against, even though I said I wouldn't. Fredonia will have to wait though, until next year. :D They are a young team and who knows where they could be in the next few years. The Bengals are another young team but have the talent to be better than they are...right now! They will improve... if not sooner then it will be down the road. When teams consistently have one poor season after another it hurts all the other teams in the YAC and that's something I'd rather not have happening.

The things I stated that the announcers said about Jon Patron weren't made up if you listened to the broadcast you would have heard just what I wrote.

I never go into hiding...sometimes I just go to sleep. At my age sleep is getting to be more of something I got less of for years. Other times I make out a post and after spending a good amount of time with all the stats my computer plays games and starts updates when I'm in the middle of posting. That very thing happened at 3:30 this morning (Thursday morning early AM) when I typed up the results of the Oneonta game. I was about a sentence from completing my post when my computer decide to shut down and install updates. I lost the entire post and had to do it over again and it was finally posted at 4:30 AM. Many times that happens (I'm an old fart and not real computer literate) and many times I am too tired to do it over again. I've got a wicked crick in my neck from falling asleep at my computer, sometimes several nights in a row. 3 visits to the backcracker this week haven't helped me all that much yet. I also don't always come on and post results when my Cardinals win. It really depends on what's on my plate and how much sleep I've had. Check out my posts and you'll see that the majority of them are done when most everyone else is sound asleep.

I've never been one of those johnny-come-lately types. When my Cardinals were 27-3 in 07-08 I was on the boards a lot. The next year when they were 8-16 and missed the YAC playoffs I was on this board just as much. Same goes for the years when they were 8-18 and...whoops I've run out of those bad years. Seems like we've only had 2 in the past 15 or so seasons. That's what happens when you build a winning program.

As I said, if you were yanking my chain, you got me but if you were truly upset then I can only offer you my apology. I mentioned once before, when you implied I didn't like Buffalo State, that you were mistaken...I believe it was the beginning of this season. I wear my Bengals T-shirt and sweatshirt that was bestowed upon me by the team with pride and never hesitate to help them out when they come to "my neck of the woods" as Oswego grad Al Roker says about 5 times every morning on the Today show.

Happy Holiday Law Firm and keep the faith because I think your team will be looking good for the next few years.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 20, 2018, 05:47:51 PM
Plattsburgh State 88  Case Western Reserve 69

I had the Cards number right on the money with their 88 points. Thought  the Spartans would put up a few more than 69. They were four 3 pointers short of my 81 point prognostication. That was the result of their poor performance from behind the arc...only 11x36.
Cardinasls feeling a little better than they did last night and will make the rest of the week feel fine.

I hope to write up the game later but I have a high school game to go to as my girl friend's son was the MVP of his league last year as a junior and is averaging around 25 pts per game this year.  But I didn't get much sleep last night and just may come home and crash.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 21, 2018, 11:33:39 AM
Magicman   All the stars are aligned as the Cardinals and the Oneonta Red Dragons finish off 2018 on a winning note.

Hoping the Buffalo State Bengals can get it going in 2019.

Wishing you guys a Wonderful Holiday Season.

Enjoy
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on December 23, 2018, 10:27:43 PM
Wishing a happy holiday season to all the posters here!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2018, 07:57:18 AM
Merry Christmas to all my friends and posters here on the SUNYAC board and to visitors from other boards who stop by on occasion. I hope the New Year brings you good health, good luck and good times with family and friends. May 2019 be the best year yet!!

Merry Christmas to the D3guys, Pat, Dave, Gordon and others who do the work to keep this site up and running so we can enjoy it. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2018, 10:37:19 AM
Dec. 29      4 teams back in action after the Christmas break

Fredonia State  @  Utica        4:00 PM      Utica College Basketball Classic.

The Blue Devils need a win badly to get off the schneid. I don't think they will get it today. They get to play the host school of the tournament on the first day of the tournament and that's usually, never a good sign. The oddsmakers know how that works as well and have made Fredonia a 19 point underdog. The Pioneers are 5-2 and want to win the championship of their own tournament. I think they will....starting with the Blue Devils.  Utica 91 Fredonia 67.   


Oswego State  @  Emory        4:00 PM     Emory Holiday Classic  The Featured Game of the Day

The Lakers take on the Emory Eagles, a team from the UAA conference that was expected to compete for that league's championship. The Eagles are currently 7-2 and were ranked earlier in the year, as high as #18.  Tomorrow Oswego faces Denison University and a pair of wins this weekend could have the Lakers in the Top 25 when the next poll comes out on January 7th. It will also help the strength of schedule of the SUNYAC if Oswego can put these two in the win column.

Last week Oneonta got a pair of wins against two teams from the SCIAC in California and Plattsburgh got a win against a UAA team. Another win against the UAA would help, since that conference is ranked so highly.

The oddsmakers have made Emory a slim 1 point home favorite in this game. The Lakers are really an unknown quantity at this point as their 9-0 record has come against 7 teams that are .500 or below. It's not their fault that some of the traditional North Country rivals, that they have played for many years, are having down seasons. Their 3 toughest games have come against SUNYAC foes. I think the Lakers are for real and I think they pull off the mild upset, if you want to call it that.   Oswego 80 Emory 75         
   
New Paltz State  @  Medgar Evers        4:00 PM    DR. CAROL V. DE COSTA CLASSIC

The last time the Hawks had a winning record this late in the season was 2011-12 when they reached 6-5 on January 10th 2012. They are presently 4-4 and are favored once again. A win would put them on the plus side of the ledger and give them a little confidence heading into the meat of the SUNYAC schedule. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 9 point road favorite. I think they need to be careful here as the Cougars are capable of pulling off the upset. Still I like the Hawks to win this one... 78-72.

   
Cortland State  vs  Keystone        6:00 PM    @ St. John Fisher's  WOODCLIFF HOTEL AND SPA TOURNAMENT

The Red Dragons would like to lengthen their winning streak and the Keystone College Giants are next in line. Cortland is riding a 4 game win streak and sports a misleading 6-2 record that is really a 6-1 record, since one of those two losses was to Division I Wagner College. The Giants are looking to go 0-3 in the SUNYAC and join the other pair in the basement. Fortunately for Keystone they will never get to 0-4 since this is the last YAC team they will play this season.  They opened their season with a loss to Oneonta 91-73 and followed that with a loss to Potsdam 81-69. Having another team of Red Dragons beat them by double digits will probably give them a YAC headache that will, most likely, carry over into the next season when they will avoid the YAC like the plague it was (to them).

The oddsmakers have made the Giants a 24 point underdog. They may beat the spread but will lose by double digits.... Cortland 85 Keystone 68.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 30, 2018, 10:55:38 AM

PITTSFORD, N.Y. – Cortland opened the game on a 17-0 run and never looked back as the Red Dragons defeated Keystone College, 107-79, during Saturday's opening day of the St. John Fisher Woodcliff Hotel and Spa Tournament. The win is the 400th at Cortland for 24th-year head coach Tom Spanbauer, who is now 400-240 on the Red Dragons' bench and 412-253 in 25 career seasons, including one at Alfred University.
         Cortland (7-2) will face St. John Fisher in Sunday's championship game.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2018, 01:58:44 PM
Dec. 30   

Fredonia  State  vs  Anna Maria        1:00 PM      at Utica College

The Blue Devils might win this game but they are 3 point underdogs according to the oddsmakers. Anna Maria's Mike Rapoza is a beast and will cuse problems. Anna Maria wins a close one 73-68.


   
Denison  vs  Oswego State at   Emory Holiday Classic @ Emory   University

The Lakers come back in the consolation game and win one to make the trip home easier. The point spread favors Oswego by 12 points. Lakers win 82-72


New Paltz State vs  New Rochelle        2:00 PM   @ Medgar Evers

The Hawks are over .500 and now the goal is to stay that way. Today could find them gaining traction. They are favored in this game by 6 points. Hopefully they can build on yesterday's overtime win.  New Paltz 82 New Rochelle 78.

     
Cortland State @  St. John Fisher        3:00 PM    Championship of the St. John Fisher Holiday Tournament

The Red Dragons had an easy time of ot yesterday to give Coach Spanbauer his 400th win. The going will be tougher today. The oddsmakers have made Fisher a 3 point favorite. Buffalo State beat them last month but the Cardinals have some nice wins over good teams. Hard to win in Pittsford but I'll take Cortland by an 84-81 final score.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 30, 2018, 05:08:50 PM
Cortland wins 80-78 in OT thanks to some hilariously dumb end of game decisions by Fisher. Rebounding a missed FT with 6 seconds left and the score tied, a Cardinal stood still as a statue as his team screamed at him to get moving, then he hurls it the length of the court for no reason to a Red Dragon, who is then fouled for even less reason.

(kisses fingers) beautiful stupid D3 hoops bay-beeee
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2018, 09:06:01 AM
Final scores from Saturday's action:

Fredonia State 63   Utica College 88

I had the Blue Devils losing to Utica by a 91-67 final. I wasn't too far off on the MOV or the totals. Fredonia was down by 19 points at the break but played better in the 2nd half as they were only outscored 44-38. The 25 point loss hurts though.

Matt Perez came off the bench to lead Fredonia with 14 points and 4 rebounds. Isaiah Ice had 11 points and Bediako Nyasa had 10 points 4 rebounds and 3 assists.


Oswego State 71  Emory 93

Was way off on this one as the Lakers didn't play well and the Eagles did. The turnover battle and 2nd chance points were both heavily in Emory's favor and that was the difference. Brandon Gartland and Quinn Carey both scored 14 points. Joe Sullivan almost had a double-double with 12 points and 9 rebounds, while Tyler Pierre did have a double-double with 11 points 14 rebounds and 3 blocks.
Point guard Liam Sanborn had 9 points with 4 assists and Julien Crittendon came off the bench with 11 points, 3 boards and 2 assists in 12 minutes of floor time.


New Paltz State  98   Medgar Evers  91 in Overtime.

I had the Hawks winning by 6 in regulation...they won by 7 in OT. They won the first half and the Cougars won the 2nd half but New Paltz should have won in regulation. They turned it over with just 7 seconds to play and then after the Cougars missed a layup allowed a putback that sent it to overtime. When Medgar Evers scored right away in the extra session, I was afraid of the big letdown that happens, when a team that's ahead, allows the other team to score and get to overtime. However the Hawks quickly tied it up when Tristan Wissemann scored inside and after the Cougars made 1 of 2 from the foul line, Wissemann buried a 3 pointer to put the Hawks up by 2. The Cougars scored to knot things up again and both teams missed on their next two trips. The Hawks gained the edge when Scott Reisert scored with 1:45 remaining and was fouled but he couldn't convert the freebie. Both teams came up empty again and then the Cougars went to the line for a pair and a chance to tie. The Cougar player missed both free throws giving the Hawks an opportunity they took advantage of. Brandon Scott scored on a layup with 32 seconds left to go giving New Paltz a 4 point lead at 92-88. Needing to score quickly, the Cougars didn't take care of the ball and Jake Passaretti got a steal. Seconds later Corey garcia was fouled and he made both foul shots to put the Hawks up by 6 with 16 seconds left. New Paltz added a little drama when they fouled a Cougar from behind the arc, giving them a chance to get 3 points closer, with the clock off. Sure enough he swished all 3 from the stripe and now The Hawks needed to inbound the ball and make some more free throws. Fortunately they did both of those things and went 4x4 in the last 10 seconds to put this one away.

Tristan Wissemann led the Hawks with 19 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists.

Jake Passaretti had 18 points, 9 assists and a pair of steals.

Scott Reisert had 17 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals.

Paddy Parr had a team high 10 rebounds, 8 points and 6 assists.   

Cory Garcia had 9 points, 9 rebounds and a pair of helpers.


Cortland 107  Keystone 79

I just copied the post from my friend jdex to save me some time. There wasn't much drama to this game as the Red Dragons were up by 20 points 5 minutes into the game and Coach Spanbauer got his bench players involved early on.

My congratulations to Coach Spanbauer on his milestone 400th Cortland win.

13 different players scored and the Red Dragon leaders were Nicky Bonura with 20 points and Ryan Schmadel with 16.

Quote from: jdex on December 30, 2018, 10:55:38 AM
PITTSFORD, N.Y. – Cortland opened the game on a 17-0 run and never looked back as the Red Dragons defeated Keystone College, 107-79, during Saturday's opening day of the St. John Fisher Woodcliff Hotel and Spa Tournament. The win is the 400th at Cortland for 24th-year head coach Tom Spanbauer, who is now 400-240 on the Red Dragons' bench and 412-253 in 25 career seasons, including one at Alfred University.
         Cortland (7-2) will face St. John Fisher in Sunday's championship game.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2018, 11:12:35 PM
Final Scores from Sunday's action:

Fredonia State 62    Anna Maria  74

I had the AmCats winning this one 73-68. They got 74 and held the Blue Devils to only 28 points in the 2nd half to win by double digits. Anna Maria was down 34-32 at the break but got 31 points from 2 bench players in the 2nd period who only combined for 4 points in the first half. The teams were tied at 55 with 6:20 left in the game, when a Fredonia turnover triggered the start of a 14-3 run by the AmCats. By the time the run was over, the score was 69-58 and there was only 1:46 left on the clock. During that run the Blue Devils  missed 5 of 6 shots and committed 3 turnovers, along with two fouls. Anna Maria, now up 11, made 5 of 6 from the line to close the game out.

DeQuan Smith was the only Fredonia player to score in double figures and was the leading point getter in the game with 21. He also had 3 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 steals.

Anna Maria got 35 points from their 2 bench players....19 for Angel Perez and 16 for Sidney Limage who also had 9 rebounds.

Big Mike Rapoza almost had a triple-double for the AmCats. He had 15 points, a game high 19 rebounds (his 11th double-double in 13 games) and 8 assists.  He added a pair of blocks and a steal.


Fredonia drops to 0-9 overall and 0-3 in the conference. They will be back in action next week when they host Geneseo State on Tuesday January 8th at 7:30 PM.


Oswego State 50  Denison  61

The Lakers would like a do over for the weekend. Leaving home with a perfect record and a chance to get a little national recognition didn't work out the way they wanted.  They had their chances in Sunday's game against the Big Red from Denison University. The first half featured a number of lead changes with neither team able to gain much of an edge. Oswego was down 5 points early on but came back after 7 minutes of play to go in front 10-8. Six more lead changes and two ties later the Lakers managed to extend their lead to 26-21 with 3:45 left in the period. They missed several chances to build the lead and were outscored 6-2 to end the half but still  managed to be ahead by a 28-27 score.

The 2nd half opened with the Big Red scoring immediately to gain the lead and that started a 10-3 spurt over the next 6 minutes.  Now up 37-31 Denison never let the Lakers get it back to a one possession game. Every Laker basket, and there weren't many, was answered by one from the Big Red and they managed to extend their lead to double digits, when Matt Doyle hit a jumper followed by a 3 pointer to make it 46-36 with 8:44 left in the game. Oswego had only scored 8 points in the half, at that time. The game continued to play out in that manner with Denison slowly extending their lead to 12 points on several occasions and the Lakers never able to cut into it very far.  Denison went 12x30 from behind the arc while the Lakers were only 4x14 from deep. The Lakers have won many games by virtue of their 3 point shooting. This game was one they lost because of the 3 point line. They had a cold shooting night in all areas and if they played Denison again I think they would turn the tables. I wish they would have saved this game for their visit to Memorial Hall here in the 'Burgh. Instead their visits here usually get them quite healthy.  ::) I have a feeling that February 9th will be a very important date for the Cardinals and the Lakers.

Allen Durutovic ked the Lakers with 13 points  and 8 rebounds.

Liam Sanborn had 12 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Joe Sullivan had a double-double of 10 points and 10 boards.

Tyler Pierre had 8 points and 6 rebounds.

Oswego is now 9-2 overall and on top of the YAC with a 4-0 record. The Lakers are back in action on Tuesday, January 8th when they host New Paltz for a 7:30 PM tipoff.

New Paltz 84  New Rochelle 78

I almost nailed this final score as I had the Hawks winning by an 82-78 final. Two free throws by the Hawks' Corey Garcia with 4 seconds left, kept me from a perfect prediction. 

The Hawks led for much of the first half in this battle of the "News" by as many as 10 points early on and still up by 6 points with 9 minutes to play in the period. Slowly their lead dissolved and the Blue Angels caught them at 27 all, with 6:17 remaining. Five lead changes later New Rochelle had the lead at the break 38-36.

The teams continued where they left off at halftime as they traded leads 7 times in the first 7 minutes. Finally the Hawks got a little separation when Tristan Wissemann drained a three to give them a lead at 51-49. He followed that up with an offensive rebound and layup on the Hawks next possession after the Blue Angels came up empty. New Paltz got a steal and Wissemann got another layup to put them in front by a 55-49 score, which was the largest lead in the last 17 minutes of play. The teams traded baskets and then a bucket by Nick Paquette followed by another one from Wisseman restored the lead back to double figures at 61-51. When the Hawks' Felix Riascos scored at the 8 minute mark the 11 point lead was the largest of the afternoon at 66-55. The Blue Angels had one more thrust and cut the margin to 3 points with an 8-0 run but Wisseman returned and immediately scored inside followed by a layup from Paddy Parr to make it a 3 possession game once again. The Hawks got a big threeball from Wisseman with 2:21 remaining to bring the lead back to 10 points and New Paltz hit 5 of 6 from the line to close the game out.

Tristan Wissemann led all scorers with 30 points and added 7 rebounds.

Scott Reisert filled up the stat sheet with 14 points, 7 rebounds, 4 steals, 2 assists and a block.

Jake Passaretti added 10 points, a pair of assists and 2 steals.

Corey Garcia and Paddy Parr both led the team in rebounds with 10 each. Garcia added 6 points and 5 assists. Parr had a team high 6 assists and 2 points.

Nick Paquette had 8 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists in 19 minutes off the bench.

The Hawks improve to 6-4 overall and 1-2 in the SUNYAC. As noted above they will return to action on January 8th with a trip to Oswego.


Cortland 80  St. John Fisher 78

Not too often that the Cardinals of Fisher are 0-2 against the YAC in one season. Nice to see it happen on occasion. Even nicer to see that both YAC wins came on Fisher's home court. That may have never happened before in SUNYAC history....2 Wins in Pittsford in one year, that is... (Maybe Fran Elia or jdex would know the answer to that...off the top of your head....but don't waste your time looking it up, guys)   

My forecast of an 84-81 Cortland win was pretty close to the final tally and MOV. I didn't have it going to overtime but needed the extra period to get close to the total.

Early going was fairly close as the teams traded leads until Cortland became the more assertive team. Led by their 3 top scorers the Red Dragons got 5 points each from Nicky Bonura, Justin Cooper, and Kenny Charles to go on a 15-6 run. It turned a 7-10 deficit into a 22-16 lead with 10:40 on the clock. The Cardinals responded with a 14-0 blast of their own to open up a 30-22 lead. Keeping this a game of runs meant that Cortland was up to bat and they didn't disappoint. The Red Dragons ripped off 10 points in a row on their way to a 19-4 explosion to go into the locker room up 41-34. Six different players scored during that run led by Bonura with 5 points and Cooper with 4.

Fisher scored quickly after the break on an old fashioned 3 point play by Ryan Henderson. The zebras called a foul on Kenny Charles who had 3 called against him in the first half. So now, 11 seconds into the second half, he gets his 4th foul and takes a seat. Zach Lydon comes in and promptly scores and then, after Fisher cuts the lead to 2 points, he gets an offensive rebound and putback, followed by a defensive rebound and a 3 point play of his own. Lydon has 7 points in about 2 and a half minutes. Bonura then stole the ball and buried a three to boost the lead back to 10 points at 51-41 with 16:45 left to play. But this game was far from over.

Fisher took a time out to regroup and then fired off 9 straight points to make it 51-50 with 14:28 left to play. Cooper hit a jumper for Cortland but Fisher got a 3 pointer to tie the game once again. Now it was the Cardinals forging into the lead and a 9-3 spurt made the score 62-56 with 9:39 left to play. Cortland responded with another 12-2 run and went back in front 68-64. The teams struggled on the offensive end down the stretch as they both had trouble scoring from the field. They were tied at 72 with 3:44 left in regulation but neither team scored another point and they both had numerous chances to do so. In fact during the final 7+ minutes of regulation the Red Dragons went 1x8 from the field and Fisher was 2x12.

Cortland scored first in overtime but Fisher got back to back dunks from James Leone to go ahead 76-74. Cortland missed a 3 point attempt got the rebound and missed another long one. Fisher went to the line and made a pair to go up by 4 points with 1:26 to go. Charles went to the line for Cortland and made 1 of 2, but Cooper got the offensive rebound and the team took a timeout. Charles made up for the free throw miss by draining a 3 pointer from the corner to tie the game at 78 with 1:05 left to play. Fisher missed on their end and Cortland rebounded and took another timeout with 38 seconds left. The play for the Red Dragons was a three point attempt by Bonura and he missed the shot which was rebounded by Fisher with just a few ticks left. The Fisher player threw the ball down court but it was stolen by Ryan Schmadel who was fouled with 1 second left. He calmly made both foul shots and Cortland claimed the close win. This was a repeat of last years game that took place in Cortland and won by the Red Dragons in a thriller, 70-69.

Justin Cooper captured scoring honors for the game by dropping in 20 points and securing a nice double-double with 16 rebounds. He added 4 assists and a steal in 43 minutes on the court

Nicky Bonura had 15 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist in 42 minutes of play.

Kenny Charles had 14 points ,6 rebounds, a steal and a block.

Zach Lydon also had a double-double of 11 points and 11 rebounds. 

Ryan Schmadel had 10 points, 2 assists and 2 steals. 

Cortland improves to 8-2 overall and 3-1 in the YAC and will complete their non-conference schedule when they travel to Radnor, Pennsylvania on Friday January 4th to take on the Cabrini Cavaliers at 7:00 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 31, 2018, 11:28:17 PM
Not sure if there is a  Player of the Week in the SUNYAC this week but the short list probably has Tristan Wisseman from New Paltz, along with Justin Cooper and Nicky Bonura from Cortland on it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 04, 2019, 06:10:55 AM
SUNYAC POW
http://www.sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2018-19/releases/20190102iykqre

Congrats to the Hawks Tristen Wisseman.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: The Law Firm on January 04, 2019, 09:26:43 AM
Caz Bombers how dare you little jabroni come on The Law Firms page and not even have the class to introduce yourself? KNOW YOUR ROLE AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH. Take your NEAC garbage somewhere else.

On another note, good to be back in YACtion tonight boys, good luck to all and a happy new year to you fine gentlemen

Peace LF
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 04, 2019, 11:10:44 AM
Quote from: The Law Firm on January 04, 2019, 09:26:43 AM
Caz Bombers how dare you little jabroni come on The Law Firms page and not even have the class to introduce yourself? KNOW YOUR ROLE AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH. Take your NEAC garbage somewhere else.

On another note, good to be back in YACtion tonight boys, good luck to all and a happy new year to you fine gentlemen

Peace LF

Yes I too remember the year 1999, does anyone have jokes from this century they'd like to share with the class?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2019, 07:11:48 PM
Jan. 4  Two teams in action today wrapping up the non-conference portion of their schedule. League games return on Friday


Brockport State  @  Alfred        7:00 PM

The Golden Eagles look to wind up their non-conference slate with a trip over to Mayberry to visit the Alfred Saxons. Brockport's modest winning streak came to an end last time out when they were defeated by Washington and Lee. Port has been in every game and their 6-4 record could easily be better than that. Their signature win was a defeat of, at the time, #10 Plattsburgh State in a 79-78 barnburner. The Saxons come into this game with a gaudy 7-1 record but the competition, for the most part,  has been on the weak side. The toughest team they have played was Geneseo State and the host Knights beat them 89-73 giving them their one loss.

The oddsmakers have made Brockport a slim 3 point favorite.   I think Brockport  is better than Geneseo so I believe they'll win by double digits.  Port 93 Alfred 78. 


Cortland State  @  Cabrini        7:00 PM

Cortland is on a 6 game winning streak and is 8-1 in Division III with their only blemish a loss to Brockport back on November 30th. They are coming off an overtime win against St. John Fisher another Empire 8 conference team. The SUNYAC has been tough on the E8 teams this season as we are a combined 8-2 against them. Cabrini is from the AEC (Atlantic East Conference) and is struggling this year as they are only 2-10. The oddsmakers have installed Cortland  as a 10 point road favorite. That seems about right. Cortland takes this one by an 84-73 final. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 04, 2019, 11:15:57 PM
Quote from: The Law Firm on January 04, 2019, 09:26:43 AM
Caz Bombers how dare you little jabroni come on The Law Firms page and not even have the class to introduce yourself? KNOW YOUR ROLE AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH. Take your NEAC garbage somewhere else.

On another note, good to be back in YACtion tonight boys, good luck to all and a happy new year to you fine gentlemen

Peace LF

Excuse me -- between that and the PM I was forwarded, you are 200% out of line, The Law Firm. But that's OK. I can shut your hole for you for a while.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2019, 07:03:37 AM
Brockport State 84 Alfred 76

Had to go  into town for an emergency visit to my dentist and didn't get home until almost 7 PM. I knew the D3hoops scoreboard said that the 2 games involving SUNYAC teams both had 7 PM tipoff times. I hurriedly looked at the teams and their past performances to make my picks and posted them at a little after 7 PM. I went to pull up the video for both games only to discover that the Brockport game was already over. Seems like the game started at 5 PM instead of 7 PM. I did have a decent prediction as I had Brockport winning by a 93-78 final score. The Golden Eagles were up by 9 at the half but couldn't put the Saxons away as Alfred hung in there until the bitter end. Port was up by 11 at 69-58 with 8 minutes left in the game but a 12-5 run brought the Saxons within 4 points at 74-70 with 3:26 remaining. That was as close as they got as Brockport closed the door and got the win.

Chris Atkinson led all scorers as he pumped in 21 points for Brockport. He added 7 assists, 4 steals and 2 rebounds.

Antonio  Alvarez in his first start at Brockport made the most of his opportunity with a double-double of 15 points and 11 rebounds. Both marks were career highs

Devante  Hagins just missed a double-double as he scored 15 points and grabbed 9 boards. He also had 4 steals, 2 assists and a pair of blocks.

Danny Ashley had 10 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists in 25 minutes of court time off the bench.

Alfred had the better shooting percentages and won the rebounding battle but had 22 turnovers which led to 27 points for the Golden Eagles. Port only had 12 turnovers that gave Alfred 12 points.

Brockport improves to 7-4 overall (3-1 SUNYAC) and went 4-3 in their non-conference slate. They are back in action on Tuesday, January 8th, when they travel to the Queen City to take on  the Buffalo State Bengals at 7:30 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2019, 09:17:21 AM
Cortland State 92  Cabrini 86

Just like the Brockport game, the Red Dragons gave up a double digit lead late in the game and had to hold off the host team down the stretch. Cortland jumped out to an early lead and gradually built a 15 point advantage by the  midway point of the first period. They ended the half up 51-39. The Cavaliers got back into the game quickly in the 2nd stanza, and made it a contest by keeping the deficit between 6 to 9 points. Cortland finally regained a double figure lead with about 10 minutes left to play and were still up 83-71, with 5:26 remaining. The Cavaliers went on a last ditch push and a 12-4 run brought them within 4 points at 87-83 but only 1:45 on the clock. They had to foul and Cortland leads the nation (Division III) in free throw percentage which was over 82% going into the game. The Red Dragons hit 5 of 6 from the line and ended the night making 23 of 25 (92.0%).  I think their free throw percentage still leads all of DIII coming out of the game. :D       


The Red Dragons shot 48% from the floor (28x58),  and 44.8%) percent (13x29) from 3-point range. They beat Cabrini in all 3 shooting areas and also had 41 rebounds to 31 for the Cavaliers. Cabrini won the turnover battle with only 5 giveaways to 13 for Cortland.
 

Justin Cooper led 4 Cortland players in double figures with his 7th double-double of the year. Cooper threw in 21 points, grabbed 13 rebounds, dished out 4 assists and had 1 steal.

Ryan Schmadel had 29 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a block.

Nicky Bonura had 17 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.

Zach Lydon had 15 points, 8 rebounds, a block and a steal.

Ben Walters  went 3x3 from downtown to finish with 9 points and 3 rebounds in 21 minutes off the bench.   

Cortland kept their winning streak alive as they won their seventh straight game and improved to 9-2 overall (3-1 YAC). They finished their non-conference schedule going 6-1 with the only blemish being a loss to Division I Wagner. They will travel to Oneonta for their next game which is Part 1 of the Dragon Wars. That will take place on Tuesday January 8th at 6:00 PM. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2019, 01:48:50 PM
Geneseo State  @   Morrisville State.   3:00 PM    This is the only game in town today.

The Knights are 7-1 against MoVille over the last 12 years so the Mustangs haven't had much success against them. Geneseo has been listed as a 4 point favorite in this game but these Mustangs are capable of pulling off the mild upset.The Knights have been off for almost a month but I'll still take them to win by a final score of 79-71.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2019, 07:21:57 PM
Geneseo State loses to Morrisville State by a 95-85 final score.

Geneseo jumped out to an early 7-0 lead and stayed in front of the Mustangs through 9 minutes of the first half. MoVille finally caught then at 16 all, fell behind again by 5 points, at 21-16, caught up once more and finally gained their first lead at 24-23. The Knights responded with a 13-5 burst that reestablished that initial 7 point lead at 36-29. Unfortunately for Geneseo the Mustangs came right back with a 7-1 mini run to close the half and only trailed by a single point at the break 37-36.

The first 3 minutes of the 2nd half had 4 lead changes and 2 ties until Geneseo, tied at 43, went on a 9-2 spurt and led 52-45 at the 15:21 mark. The Mustangs however, one upped the Knights and went on a 12-0 bender of their own to grab a 57-52 lead. The Knights tied it up but the Mustangs got back to back 3 pointers on 2 successive trips while Geneseo came up empty in between. The lead was 6 points and inched up to 8 at 69-61 with 8:44 remaining. The Knights could never catch up after that. The closed to within 3 points on 2 separate instances but each time MoVille responded to build the lead back to 7 or 8 or 10. The Knights got the deficit down to 6 points when Jack Manke made a pair of free throws with 3:07 left and again at 2:38 when Manke made a layup, but the Knights couldn't get a stop when they needed to and the Mustangs cruised to their largest lead of 12 points by hitting 9 of 12 free throws down the stretch.

Terrence Nichols led Geneseo with 18 points, 7 rebounds and 3 assists.

Zack Panebianco had 15 points, and 2 assists.

Jack Manke had 12 points and a team high 8 rebounds.

Michael Gannon also tossed in 12 points with 5 rebounds.

Terrence Rogers had 11 assists 5 points and 2 rebounds.

Joseph Harclerode III had 9 points and 4 rebounds in 15 minutes off the bench.



Morrisonville had 5 guys in double figures led by Kevin Dennis with a game high 21 points and a game high 11 rebounds.

Geneseo falls to 4-6 overall (1-3 YAC) and will be up next at Fredonia on Tuesday, January 8th at 7:30 PM.

   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2019, 05:27:31 AM
The latest D3hoops Top 25 poll was posted on Monday evening and Plattsburgh State was ranked in the #17 spot. The Cardinals, who only had 2 games since the last poll was released on December 17th, dropped 4 places on the basis of a 1-1 record in those 2 games. Their point total fell from 285 down to 187.  Hopefully they can go on a nice winning streak as they did last year about this time.

Oswego State, after back to back losses lat week, dropped out of the Others Receiving Votes category. The Lakers had a steady climb through that part of the poll and with 2 wins in those games probably would have cracked the Top 25 this week. Instead they lost all of their 28 points and are back to square one.

Rochester who went 2-0 over the holiday break, was the big gainer for East Region teams, as the Yellowjackets jumped up 5 spots from 17th to #12. They went from 197 points to 284. They defeated Emory last Saturday and have 2 big games coming up this weekend on the road, against Washington U and Chicago. Those are the 3 teams that will challenge them for the UAA's automatic NCAA bid. If they win the weekend games they will have a leg up for that league crown and will probably break into the Top 10 of the next poll.

No other team from the East Region was mentioned in the latest poll.  Here is the link to the omplete poll:

https://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2018-19/week5
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2019, 05:28:26 AM
Jan. 8         All ten teams back to the hardwood for SUNYAC clashes.


Cortland State   @  Oneonta State            6:00 P    Featured Game of the Night

Cortland's Dragons are hot as, well... dragon's breath, winners of 7 straight and 9-1 in Division III. Cortland is coming into this game fresh off a pair of close road contests, a 2 point overtime victory in a barnburner against St. John Fisher and a 6 point win over Cabrini.

Oneonta's variety is also heating up again at the right time. Should be some fireworks lighting up Dewar Arena this evening as this is always a hotly contested matchup. The two teams have played 13 times in the last 6 years and Cortland leads the series with a 7-6 record.

Oneonta really needs a victory, here at home, after struggling on the road against two conference teams they were expected to beat. If they open up 0-4 in the YAC they might be digging themselves a hole that even a dragon can't fly out of.

Cortland, 3-1 in conference play, is favored by a slim 2 point margin. These teams are very close to the same personnel that duked it out last February in the Conference Tournament semifinals, which Oneonta won 60-57. I think the Red Dragon variety from Cortland gain a measure of revenge tonight. Final score....Cortland 85 Oneonta 77.




Geneseo State  @  Fredonia                    7:30 PM

The Knights are 10-2 against Fredonia over the last 6 years and this year looks like another chance to add on to those favorable numbers. Fredonia hasn't broken into the win column yet this year and I think they will have a tough time doing so against one of the YAC teams. I hope they get some wins (as long as it isn't against Plattsburgh) as I want everyone in the YAC to experience the joys of victory. Today looks more like the agony of defeat, however, again. The oddsmakers have made Geneseo a 14 point favorite. I think the Blue Devils will lose to the Blue Knights but just might beat the spread. Geneseo wins this one 76-64.     


Potsdam State  @  Plattsburgh State     7:30 PM

The Bears are hungry for a win over Plattsburgh because they haven't beaten their travel partner since February 10th, 2012. The Cardinals are 20-3 against the Bears in the last 12 years and winners of 13 straight games. But there has been progress and Potsdam has proven in the last few seasons that they are learning how to win games rather than giving them away. From November of 2013 through February of 2017, a span of 4 seasons, the Bears won a combined total of 11 games (5-2-1-3=11). Last year they went 11-14 and equaled the win total of the previous 4 years. This year they are off to a 6-5 start with a 2-2 record in the YAC. Does that translate into a victory tonight over the Cardinals? I hope not, but it does mean you can't pencil in a W on the schedule until the game is in the record books. Potsdam's starting 5 can play with anybody. They are athletic and if they get hot the Cardinals will wind up on the short end wondering what happened. If you want the top seed come tournament time, you need to protect your home court and especially against teams not ranked in the top echelon.

Plattsburgh has went 2-2 in its last 4 games after starting out 7-0. Those were a last second loss at Brockport and a loss down in Florida over the semester break to Wesleyan. No need to call the doctor just yet, but the Cardinals need to take better care of the ball and improve on their 3 point shooting. Both losses featured abysmal performances behind the arc. (a combined 7x51).

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 17 point favorite in this game. They haven't beaten many teams by that margin this year....actually only once have they done so. I like the Cardinals to win this game but think the Bears will cover. Plattsburgh 92 Potsdam 78.       


Brockport State  @  Buffalo State            7:30 PM

If anybody has the Bengals number it has to be Brockport State. The Golden Eagles are 15-2 against the Bengals over the past 7 years and I know a few people in the Queen City who would like to change that. Not only that but the Golden Eagles have knocked the Bengals out of the playoffs in 4 out of their last 5 meetings. This doesn't appear to be the year that Buffalo State will be able to do it either as the Bengals are off to a slow start with a young team. Brockport already owns a win against 2 of the top teams in the YAC and they are hopeful of earning the top seed for the first time in a few years.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 6 point road favorite but the Bengals have shown they can play with anybody at least for most of the game. As I mentioned they are a young team and they need to learn to win. They did just that against St. John Fisher but regressed a bit in their last 4 games. I like Brockport to get the win here but won't be surprised if the Bengals pull off a mild upset. Brockport State 94 Buffalo State 86.   


New Paltz State  @  Oswego State            7:30 PM

If victories were money then Oswego State would own New Paltz State, or at least 90% of it. The Lakers are 20-2 against the Hawks over the past 12 years and have won 9 in a row. But these aren't the same old, same old, Hawks as Oneonta found out a couple of weeks ago. Of course beating Oneonta in your barn and beating Oswego in their barn are two vastly different dynamics, as the Hawks are about to find out. Still the upset special is a factor in play here, where it wasn't much of a factor in the past several years. Oswego may have been exposed a bit by its road trip over the holidays as they went from the undefeated, powerful and about to be ranked, to just another decent team. That's what happens when you fly too close to the sun. Still, in their favor they played two decent teams but they just didn't have their best effort.  There's still time to become that ranked team, though, and it starts with another winning streak

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a big 16 point home favorite here and here's the reason why....seven teams have invaded Laker Hall this season and all of them have lost by double figures. Five of them were non-conference foes and 2 of them were YAC teams. Both YAC teams, Brockport and Geneseo  lost by 10 points. I'll take Oswego to win this one by a final score of 80-66.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 08, 2019, 10:14:52 AM
"The Golden Eagles are 15-2 against the Bengals over the past 7 years and I know a few people in the Queen City who would like to change that. "


Beat Brockport!


- 1 of those "Few People"
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 09, 2019, 12:24:28 AM
Happy New Year!
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 11, 2019, 01:11:53 PM
Just catching up here.
Can't believe Oneonta is the only SUNYAC team without a win.
If there was ever a game they need it's tonight against Geneseo.

Brockport is looming tomorrow.

Magicman Please get that magic wand out and help the Red Dragons.
I hate to ask you for a favor, But we need a win.

Enjoy the games
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
Tuesday night's results.

Cortland State  85 Oneonta State 65

I had Cortland winning this game by scoring 85 points. Thought Oneonta would score a few more than 65. Teams had 6 ties and 10 lead changes in the first half that ended in a tie at 32 each. The first 3 minutes of the 2nd period was more of the same but then Cortland got a little separation and went up by 5 points at 39-34. The lead stayed between 4 and 8 points until a layup by Zach Lydon and a 3 pointer by Nicky Bonura gave Cortland the first double digit lead of the night at 55-43 with 12 minutes remaining. Still up by 11 at 62-51, with 7 minutes to go, Cortland applied the finishing touch by outscoring Oneonta 8-1 over the next 2 minutes as Justin Cooper went to the line on 3 straight possessions and made a pair of free throws each time. Nicky Bonura scored inside on the next trip and with 5:17 remaining the Red Dragons from Cortland had put this one out of reach as the lead ballooned to 70-52. Cortland eased off the gas pedal and coasted to the win.

Once more Cortland was deadly from the free throw line as they made 22x25 (88%) while Oneonta was only 8x18. There's a big part of the winning margin. Cortland also made 7 three pointers while Oneonta only had 3 from long range. Oneonta did win the rebounding battle 47-40 but had 13 turnovers to 9 for Cortland.

Justin Cooper led all scorers with 23 points and completed his double-double with 13 rebounds, also a game high. Kenny Charles also had a double-double of 11 points and 10 rebounds. Nicky Bonura had 18 points.


Ian Schultz lead Oneonta with 21 points (10x12 fg) and a team high 8 rebounds. Andres Rivera had 17 points and 7 rebounds. Kevin Mackin had 11 points and 4 rebounds.

Cortland improves to 10-2 (4-1 in the SUNYAC) and will host 1st place Oswego State on Saturday at 4 PM in a battle for the top spot.

Oneonta falls 5-5 overall and (0-4 in the SUNYAC). Next up they will host Geneseo on Friday at 7:30 PM and Brockport the next day at 4:00 PM.


Fredonia State 91  Geneseo State 84  In double overtime

Fredonia gets into the win column by knocking off the Knights and it may end up as the hardest fought victory of the year, by anyone in the YAC. These two teams went at each other all game long and the largest lead ended up being 7 points at 57-50 and the final score of 91-84. I was right about one thing in my forecast of this game...Fredonia did beat the spread....but that's the only thing I was correct about. Points were skewed by the double OT and of course I had Geneseo to win. Glad to see Fredonia get off the  schneid and into the winners circle for a change. 

You have to admire the Blue Devils. Twice, at the end of regulation and at the end of the first overtime, they had the lead with just a few seconds left to play, yet both times Geneseo managed to tie the score to force another period. The 3rd time was a charm though and Fredonia moved in front by 2 possessions when those final seconds were ticking off. Many times when a team loses that win because the other team scores to send it to overtime, the momentum swings to the team that tied it up. Fredonia wanted this one and refused to let it get away. Maybe more wins are forthcoming.

The Blue Devils got a monstrous effort from De'Quan Smith who lit up Dods Hall with a 39 point career high effort. He was 15x25 from the field, hit 6x12 from downtown, and was 3x5 from the line. He added 5 steals, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a block.

Bediako Nyasa came off the bench with a big contribution as he scored 16 points, with 2 rebounds and 2 assists in 26 minutes. Mark Morgan had 11 points and 7 boards, and Isaiah Ice had 10 points and 6 assists.


Geneseo got a team high 21 points from Michael Gannon who came off the bench but played 35 minutes. That's more than most starters get, normally.

Four other Knight players had double figures which included Terrance Nichols with 18 points, 6 rebounds, and 4 assists. Zack Panebianco tossed in 14 points, while Sean Crowley added 10 points, 5 rebounds and a pair of assists.

Jack Manke had a double-double of 10 points and a game high 11 rebounds. He also had 3 blocks.

The Blue Devils outshot the Knights from the field and from long range which made up for the large discrepancy at the foul line. Geneseo was 20x29 at the stripe while Fredonia was only 7x11. Numbers like that would normally spell l-o-s-s but the Blue Devils made up for it by canning 14x34 from long distance. Geneseo was only 8x28.

Fredonia is now 1-9 (1-3 YAC) and their hard work has given them the task of facing the defending SUNYAC Champions on the road. Their next game will be against Plattsburgh State as they travel to the North Country to tackle the Cardinals on Friday night at 7:30 PM. They will face Potsdam gthe next day at 4:00 PM.

Geneseo falls to 4-7 overall (1-4 SUNYAC) and drops into 9th place in the standings. They will also hit the road as they travel to Oneonta to take on the 10th place team at 7:30 PM on Friday.



Brockport State 88  Buffalo State 85

I had Brockport winning by a 94-86 score. I wasn't too far off and the MOV was a little closer than I anticipated. 

The Bengals used a quick 7-0 start to grab the lead right after the opening tip and maintained a 6 to 9 point advantage through the first 8 minutes of play. Still up 22-15 with 11:21 left in the period Ryniek Holloway buried a threeball for the Bengals to give them a 25-15 edge. After Brockport's Josh Nelson hit a 3 pointer to cut it to 7 points, the Bengals had another 9-2 spurt, ending with a triple from Dom Grayer, to give them a 36-22 lead with 4:45 left in the half. Brockport closed the gap by outscoring the Bengals 14-4 0ver the final 4 minutes of the period. The halftime score still had Buff state in front, but only by a 36-32 score.

Brockport wasted little time erasing the deficit as they led off the 2nd half with an 8-1 burst that gave them the lead for the first time at 44-41, 2 minutes in. The Bengals would tie the score at 44 and again at 51 but the Golden Eagles would slowly take over the game and build a lead that reached double figures at 66-55 with 9 minutes remaining. Twice over the next 4 minutes Buff State would trim the lead to 4 points but each time the Eagles responded and the 2nd time had an 8-2 spurt  that boosted the lead back to 12 points with only 3:51 left to play. Buffalo State then got 8 straight points from Grayer, a 3 pointer, a layup and another 3 pointer, to make it 82-78 with 1:24 left on the clock. Brockport got 2 points from the line, while Holloway scored on a layup. Then the Bengals got a steal and Holloway got the hoop and some harm. He completed the 3 point play and Buffalo State had come nearly all the way back as they trailed 84-83 with 41 seconds to go. They couldn't get that stop they needed though as Brockport's Chris Atkinson nailed a jumper to put his team up by 3. The Bengals came down and quickly scored inside and fouled Atkinson after Port inbound the ball. He made both free throws leaving the Bengals with 4 seconds to make a three and send it to overtime. That didn't happen and Brockport left the Queen City with another W in their pocket.

Big win for Brockport as they were without the services of their top player as Justin Summers was not in the lineup. Also didn't have Tyler Collins, their 3rd leading scorer who has missed the last few games. I'm sure the coaching staff and Brockport fans were holding their breath wondering how they would manage with those 2 starters missing. Hope both of these players will be back soon.

Brockport was led by Antonio Alvarez with 21 points and 7 rebounds. Chris Atkinson had 20 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. Devante Hagins had a double-double of 10 points and a game high 14 rebounds. Jahidi Wallace had 17 points and 8 rebounds.


Dom Grayer led all scorers with 33 points as he was 12x20 from the field and hit 9x13 shots from long distance. Sheldon Adams had 16 points and 5 assists. Ryniek Holloway had 11 points and 3 assists. Kay Grant had 7 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. Jordan Christopher had 7 points, 6 rebounds, 5 steals and 2 assists.

Brockport won the boards with 48 rebounds to 34 for the Bengals but the turnover battle was in Buffalo State's favor as they created 23 turnovers, with just 12 of their own. Brockport was 27x34 from the line. Bengals only 12x18 from the stripe. That had to hurt.

Brockport improves to 8-4 overall and (4-1 in the YAC). They will travel to New Paltz on Friday for a game at 7:30 PM.

Buffalo State falls to 3-7 overall and (1-3 in the SUNYAC).  They are headed to the cold North Country to take on Potsdam State on Friday evening at 7:30 PM.



Oswego State 86  New Paltz State 56

Not much drama to this game as Oswego took it to the Hawks. They were favored by 16 and I thought the final might be 80-66.  I had my 8's and 6's but not quite in the right order.

The Lakers opened up with the lead and New Paltz tried to stay with them and after the first 7 minutes were only down 9-7. That's when the roof fell in. Over the next 8 minutes Oswego went on a 22-0 run and with 5 minutes to play the score was 31-7. This game was basically over but it got even worse as the Lakers went on another run of 13-4, to cruise into halftime with a 44-11 advantage.

Give credit to the Hawks, who didn't quit even when they were down by over 30 points. They actually outscored the Lakers in the 2nd half by a 45-42 margin but this wasn't a scrimmage where you win 1 half.... lose 1 half...and break even. Oswego got to use all of their reserves and I imagine, so did the Hawks.

Quinn Carey led all scorers with 26 points and 4 rebounds. He was 6x12 from 3 point range. Brandan Gartland had 14 points and 8 rebounds. Tyler Pierre was the leading rebounder in the game with 11 boards and 5 points. Liam Sanborn had 7 assists, 5 points, 4 rebounds and 2 steals.

Tristan Wissemann led the Hawks in points with 21 and rebounds with 7.  Jake Passaretti chipped in with 10 points.

Oswego dominated all phases of the game as they outshot the Hawks in all 3 areas. They had 47 rebounds to 33 for New Paltz and only had 10 turnovers to 14 for the Hawks.

The Lakers get back into the win column as they improve to 10-2 and hold onto sole possession of 1st place in the SUNYAC with a 5-0 record to keep them a game ahead of Plattsburgh, Cortland and Brockport who are all 4-1. They are off until Saturday, January 12th when they travel to Cortland to take on those Red Dragons at 4:00 PM.

New Paltz drops to 6-5 overall and 1-3 in the YAC.  They will host Brockport on Friday evening at 7:30 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2019, 01:54:50 PM
Tuesday Night Result.

#17 Plattsburgh State 79  Potsdam State 76

I had the Cardinals winning this game 92-78. The Bears did their part to make me look good but my Cardinals needed to make a few more 3 pointers to get to the 92 points I thought they would put up. The Cardinals didn't play well and were lucky to come out with a win. With the score tied at 76 and Plattsburgh in possession with 24 seconds left to play, the Cardinals elected to go for the last shot. Point guard Brandon Johnson dribbled down the clock and with about 5 seconds left, launched a jumper from several feet outside the 3 point line that finds its mark. There's 1.5 seconds left on the clock as the ball goes through the net. Potsdam tries a long inbounds pass that is picked off by the Cardinals to end the game.

Potsdam played well and hung with the Cardinals for most of the first half that featured 5 lead changes and 3 ties. The final lead change of the first half came when Plattsburgh's Ian Howard scored on a layup, to put the Cards in front 20-19. Plattsburgh then broke free,  with a 16-5 run, to go up by double digits at 36-24 with 1:18 left in the period. Five different Cardinals scored 7 baskets in that run and 3 of them came from the mid-range shooting of Chris Middleton. Plattsburgh was able to end the half with a 38-27 lead.

The  Cardinals looked to put the Bears away as they opened the 2nd period with an 8-2 start as the lead reached 16 points, 46-30. The Bears got back in the game though, narrowing the deficit down to 11 points, before they went on a 16-2 run that gave them the lead at 67-64 with just 5 minutes left in the game. Nosa Onabor had five points, Dante Viskovich had 4 points and Aaron Armstrong also had 4 points in that stretch. The teams went back and forth over the next few minutes as Potsdam stayed in front. Dante Langley scored for the Bears to make it 74-71 with 1:49 left but the Cardinals got a big 3 pointer from Middleton to tie the game seconds later. Plattsburgh finally regained the lead when Ian Howard scored to make it 76-74. Langly tied it up with another inside bucket, with 24 ticks on the clock, setting the stage for Brandon Johnson's heroics.

This game was not pretty to watch...exciting yes but the officiating left a lot to be desired. 47 fouls called and many of them not necessary... merely disruptive to the flow of the game. Yet there were clearly fouls that were not called that resulted in missed shots or turnovers.  I've seen two of these refs on numerous occasions and it's always the same thing. Blow..blow.. blow the whistle. Potsdam had two players foul out and another had 4 fouls. Plattsburgh had 3 starters with 4 each. Both teams were the recipient of bad calls and I think Potsdam had more reason to complain that Plattsburgh did, but there was a lot of complaining going on from both sides and rightly so.

Neither team shot the ball particularly well and the shooting percentages were fairly similar. Plattsburgh made 8 three pointers to 5 for the Bears. The Bears were 21x29 from the line while the Cardinals were 15x23. Plattsburgh won the rebounding battle by a healthy margin 49 to 34, especially on the offensive end, getting 24 to 13 for Potsdam. 2nd chance points were 17-9 in favor of the Cardinals. Potsdam had 18 turnovers to 15 for Plattsburgh.

Plattsburgh was led by Chris Middleton with a game high 17 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Ian Howard had a game high and career high 18 rebounds, along with 12 points for another double-double. He also had 3 blocks, 3 steals and 1 assist.

Jon Patron had 15 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds, a block and a steal.

Brandon Johnson had 15 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Isaiah Hill had 8 points and 9 rebounds in 21 minutes of court time.

Adam Jaquish had 7 rebounds, 4 points an assist and a steal in 15 minutes off the bench.


Potsdam was led by Dante Langly with 16 points, 5 rebounds ,3 assists, a block and a steal.

Nosa Onabor had 14 points and 6 rebounds.

Aaron Armstrong had 11 points, 3 assists, and a steal.

Danny Delsol-Lowry had 10 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.

Serigne Kane had 10 points, 3 rebounds and a block.

#17 Plattsburgh improves to 10-2 overall and 4-1 in the YAC. They will host Fredonia on Friday night at 7:30 PM and Buffalo State on Saturday at 4:00 PM.

Potsdam falls to 6-6 overall and 2-3 in the YAC. They will host Buffalo State on Friday evening at 7:30 PM

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2019, 05:59:55 PM
Jan. 11  Four Conference games on the slate for tonight


Tonight's games feature the teams currently in 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th place and also include Plattsburgh and Brockport, two teams tied for 2nd place. Cortland tied for 2nd and league leader, Oswego are off tonight and will face each other tomorrow.

Oswego, Cortland, Brockport and Plattsburgh will be 4 of the 6 teams that make the SUNYAC Tournament. Will anyone that doesn't believe that please raise their hand......No hands?.....I thought so.

So, those teams in 5th through 10th will need every win they can get from here on out to make the playoffs. Two of them will make the post-season, while the other four will go home. Head to head tiebreaker rules could prove to be pivotal in gaining entrance to the YAC playoffs. The 2 co-featured games of the day are big games for those teams, for that reason.     
   
Geneseo State  @  Oneonta State        7:30 PM            Co-Featured Game of the Day

Both teams coming into this game with losses. Both teams were expecting to be in a better position than they are at this point in the season. Still time to turn things around but I wouldn't have predicted that this pair would have 1 conference win between them after 9 combined games. Geneseo swept the Red Dragons last year. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 6 point home favorite. I think they are overdue to win a conference game. Make that way overdue.  Oneonta gets one in the YAC win column as they beat the Knights in a close one 79-75.   



   
Fredonia State  @  #17 Plattsburgh State    7:30 PM

Plattsburgh didn't take care of business on Tuesday night and it almost cost them. The coaching staff probably wasn't too happy with the blown leads and the poor shot selection at different points of the game. They were real happy when that 3 pointer from NBA range+ by Brandon Johnson went down in the last second though. The Cardinals need to pay attention to the job at hand tonight because Fredonia is coming in fresh off a double overtime win against Geneseo. The Blue Devils broke into the win column for the first time this season and would like nothing more than to start a streak, especially at the Cardinals' expense. But winning at home against a 9th place team and trying to beat the defending champ in their house is a devil of a different color. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 35 point favorite in this game and that may be the biggest spread of the year in the conference. I don't know if the Cardinals will beat that spread but I do think they will take care of business. Plattsburgh wins this one 94-67.     


Brockport State  @  New Paltz State    7:30 PM   

The Golden Eagles are shorthanded as they will be without leading scorer Justin Summers and have already lost starting guard TYler Collin for the season from what I've been hearing. They managed to win on the road against Buffalo State the other night. They should do the same against the Hawks, but upset possibilities could be in the air. The oddsmaker have them listed as a 10 point road favorite, but they don't have an injury report. Still I agree I think Port wins this one. 86-77.


Buffalo State  @  Potsdam State          7:30 PM           Co-Featured Game of the Day

Strange to see Potsdam favored against Buffalo State but the oddsmakers have made them a 3 point favorite against the Bengals. Potsdam has lost the last 20 times they have met Buffalo State and you have to go all the way back to January 19th 2007 to find a Potsdam victory over the Bengals. And that one took place in Buffalo. Hard for me to pick my alma mater with odds like that but Potsdam did look pretty good the other night against my Cardinals. I'll take a flyer on the Bears and see if they can pull it off but it won't surprise me to see Buffalo State win their 21st in a row in this series.  Potsdam 88 Buffalo State 85.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2019, 01:32:51 PM
Results from Friday night.

Oneonta State 83 Geneseo State 56

The Red Dragons were down 10-6 early on but a 14-4 run gave them a 20-14 lead with 6:47 to play and they never let the Knights grab another lead.  Up by 11 at the half they opened up with a 9-0 run to start the 2nd and coasted the rest of the way as the lead reached a high of 36 points.

Joseph Bull led Oneonta and captured scoring honors with 26 points. Kevin Mackin had 17 and Harrison Deegan added 13.

Zack Panebianco was the high man for the Knights with 18 points.  Joseph Harclerode II had 11.

Oneonta improves to 6-5 overall and gets in the win column in the SUNYAC with a record of 1-4. They will host Brockport State today at 4:00 PM.

Geneseo drops to 4-8 overall and 1-5 in the YAC. They will travel to New Paltz for a 4 PM matchup.



Brockport State 65  New Paltz State 63

This one came right down to the wire and both teams had their chances near the end but Brockport scored with 11 seconds left to go in front 64-63. New Paltz turned it over and Brockport got another point from the line to make the final 65-63. After a back and forth first half the Hawks had the lead for much of the 2nd period. They looked to have the Golden Eagles on the ropes when they went in front by 13 points, at 58-45, with 7:28 to play, after Tristan Wissemann buried a 3 pointer. Brockport is a resilient team though and if you give them an opportunity they will jump all over it. New Paltz missed some huge free throws down the stretch and Port made them pay. Tough loss for the Hawks.

Devante Hagins led a balanced Brockport attack with 14 points and 9 rebounds. Antonio Alvarez had 13 points and Chris Atkinson had 11. Jahidi Wallace had a team high 11 rebounds along with 8 points.

The Hawks Scott Reisert captured scoring honors with 22 points and completed a double-double by grabbing a game high 13 boards.
Tristan Wissemannn had 19 points and 6 rebounds.

Brockport improves to 9-4 overall and 5-1 in the YAC. They will face Oneonta today at 4 PM.

New Paltz falls to 6-6 overal and 1-4 in the conference race. They host Geneseo at 4 PM today.



Potsdam State 79  Buffalo State 76

Another close game up for grabs that saw the Bears prevail and get that long sought victory over the Bengals. They are now 1-20 over their last 21 meetings. Much better than the 0-20 that I mentioned in my forecast of the game. I did go with the Bears to win 88-85 and while my totals were a little high, the margin of victory was right on.

Potsdam inched their way in front and slowly built a double digit lead at 23-13 halfway through the first period. The Bengals fought back and got within 3 points at 31-28 with 3:21 to play but Potsdam ended the half on a 10-2 run to go up 41-30 at the break.

The lead stayed between 7 and 12 points through the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half when the Bengals, down 53-45 got a pair of free throws from Sheldon Adams and then after a Bear turnover, a 3 pointer from Adams to trim the lead to 3 points. After the Bears came up empty, the Bengals cashed in two more from the stripe and the game officially entered barnburner status. Back and forth with numerous ties and lead changes, over the next 6 minutes, until the Bengals went in front by 2 possessions for the first time all night on a Dom Grayer 3 pointer which made it 68-62 with 5:39 left to play.

Potsdam used to lose games like this but they came back on a 3 pointer by Nosa Onabor and a layup by Jayquan Thomas to get within 1. The Bengals went back up by 5, Potsdam countered. The Bengals went back up by 5 again and this time Onabor hit a trifecta and when Buff St. came up empty on their trip, Thomas hit another 3 pointer and the Bears were back in front 75-74. The Bengals called timeout and Yosh Bernardez scored inside, to put them back in front by 1. Thomas promptly scored on a layup for Potsdam, to regain the lead  77-76 with a minute left to play. The Bengals came down looking for the lead but turned it over with 38 seconds to when they were called for an offensive foul. The Bears took another timeout and the Bengals looking for a turnover got one with 27 seconds to go. They called timeout to set up the play and took a 3 point attempt that missed with 13 seconds left. They got the offensive rebound but lost the ball and the Bengals had to foul. Potsdam made them both and a final attempt at a three to tie the game was off the mark and the Bears had ended one of their worst streaks in the history of the program.

Dante Langley led all scores with 25 points for the Bears. Jayquan Thomas had 23 points and Nosa Onabor had 11.

Dom Grayer had 15 points to lead the Bengals. Kay Grant had a double-double with 13 points and a game high 12 rebounds. Sheldon Adams had 13 points while Ryniek Holloway had 12 points. Jordan Christopher nearly had a double-double with 9 points and 11 rebounds.

The Bears improve to 7-6 overal and 3-3 in conference play. They will host Fredonia today at 4 PM.

The Bengals fall to 3-9 overall and 1-4 in the YAC. They visit Plattsburgh State today at 4 PM.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2019, 01:34:19 PM
#17 Plattsburgh State 92 Fredonia 71

The Cardinals jumped out to an early lead that reached double digits after 4 minutes and was at 20 points 31-11 with 11:45 left in the half. The Blue Devils were still down by 21 with 3:54 remaining and managed to cut the lead down to just 10 at the break, 46-36.

Plattsburgh just had too many answers though and the Cardinals built the lead back to 20 points with 10:26 left on the clock. The lead would reach 32 before Plattsburgh brought in the reserves and Fredonia managed to narrow the gap to the 21 point difference.

Plattsburgh's Jon Patron led all scorers with a double-double of 20 points and 14 rebounds,also a game high, along with 3 assists.
Chris Middleton had 11 points 3 rebounds and 3 assists.
Brandon Johnson had 10 points, 7 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal to fill up the stat sheet.
Isaiah Hill had 10 points and 2 boards.
Ian Howard had 8 points and 8 rebounds.
Adam Jacquish had 8 points and 4 boards.
Freshman Taylor Mason had 6 points 3 rebounds and a steal in 11 minutes off the bench.

Fredonia was led by Bediako Nyasa with 13 points and 4 assists.
Kadeem Riddick had 12 points and 3 rebounds.
Abdullah Yusuf had 9 points and 6 rebounds.
Messiah Hill had a team high 7 rebounds and 4 points.

Plattsburgh improves to 11-2 overall and 5-1 in the conference. The will host Buffalo State today 4 PM.

Fredonia is now 1-10 overall and 1-4 in the YAC. They will take the short trip over to Potsdam for a 4 PM start today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2019, 02:24:54 PM
Jan. 12  Full slate of games on tap this afternoon all starting at 4 PM

Not much time today so just some quick picks.   


Geneseo State  @  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

The Knights got blitzed by Oneonta, the Hawks got disappointed by Brockport. Which team will come back to get the W. The point spread has the Hawks favored by a slim 2 points. I think the Hawks get it done as well. New Paltz 76 Geneseo 72.   


Buffalo State  @  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM

The Bengals are looking for a win to end their 6 game losing streak. Plattsburgh, the defending SUNYAC Champs and #17 in the D3hoops Top 25 is the team everyone wants to knock off. So, yes they can expect everyone's best game. Plattsburgh and Buff State have had some intense games over the years but Plattsburgh is currently on a roll going 9-1 in the last 10 meetings. The oddsmakers have the Cardinals favored by a 17 point margin. I'll be surprised if they win by that much. I think Plattsburgh wins but the score is more like 90-80.

     
Brockport State  @  Oneonta State        4:00 PM

Oneonta is looking to start a win streak in conference play after digging themselves a big hole in the early going. Brockport had had some great escapes over the last several games. The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 3 point favorite in this one. I like the Red Dragons to win this close contest. Oneonta 77 Brockport 74.


Oswego State  @  Cortland State        4:00 PM   Featured Game of the Day

This is the big game of the day matching 2 of the top 4 teams in the conference. If Cortland wins today we could have 3 teams tied for first at the end of the day, all with 1 loss and Cortland just a half game back .  The Lakers will have something to say about that, of course. The oddsmakers have made Cortland a 5 point favorite in this game. I'm inclined to go with the Red Dragons here but I think it might be a little closer. Cortland wins by an 82-79 final score.


Fredonia State  @  Potsdam State        4:00 PM

The Bears are in playoff contention and need to take care of business today to stay there. The oddsmakers have made Potsdam a 17 point favorite in this one. That seems like a few too many.  I like the Bears to win by a final score of 82-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 12, 2019, 08:10:01 PM
Oswego 6-0, 11-2
Brockport 6-1, 10-4
Plattsburgh 6-1, 12-2
Cortland 4-2, 10-3
Potsdam 4-3, 8-6
New Paltz 2-4, 7-6
Oneonta 1-5, 6-6
Buffalo State 1-5, 3-9
Fredonia 1-5, 1-11
Geneseo 1-6, 4-9
(https://i.imgur.com/1df4w6s.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 12, 2019, 08:27:48 PM
Thanks Allstar you saved me some work by listing the standings.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on January 13, 2019, 01:02:11 PM
Magicman....keep up the good work!  Reading your posts "tires me out" :)
Games in the Nescac...conference battles are "battles"....ranked teams are being challenged and beaten.  Hoping both our favorite schools will get to the post season....maybe meet somewhere.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 13, 2019, 03:05:29 PM
Just give me one! 

Tough loss at Memoriall Hall last night for my beloved BENGALS ! And yet I haven't been this encouraged all season .  Took the 18th ranked team to the wire in thier House.  Up 6 with under 12 mins left. And tied at 83 with 15 seconds left but alas it wasn't to be.  To be honest this loss hurt more than last years 27 ass whupping at Memorial Hall. To see my guys come so close yesterday , Friday ( loss by 3 ) at Potsdam and a Tuesday ( loss by 3 ) vs Brockport, leaves me knowing that we are in all 3 games.

Heck's 9 loses by a total of 35 points ( 3.88 per game difference) tells me that this team is in EVERY game.  No blow outs but competitive games.  My god...let them get another taste of Yac victory in thier mouths, just give me one, and ...  the sky's the limit.

With only 1 senior and 8 new players I understand that this is a work in progress.  But watching these boys fight to the end last night was actually a thing of beauty.  I believe these kids saw a glimpse of what they could like if they play a complete 40 mins.  Wish they had another game tomorrow but gotta wait till Friday !   Just give me one!

I'm hoping that they continue to improve and continue to grow together and continue to get better on their free throws (10-18 from the "charity stripe") .  Those 8 missed free throws speak volumes about where we could have been at games ends if we made just 4 more!  But that games over.   On to the next.  I pray that they bring their A game from start to finish. If they do then WATCH OUT.  These BENGALS could be special.

Love these boys. Now more than ever. Just give me one!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on January 13, 2019, 05:47:45 PM
It appears the top 4 have already pulled away from the pack. Sunyac is a battle every night and 1-4 could change drastically in one week. The season  is just to long for someone else to sneak into the top 4. Was geneseo supposed to be this bad? Not sure if they are fighting injuries ?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 14, 2019, 12:14:16 AM
On a side note. Had a chance to see the Magicman and his better half. I know that some of the Bengals coaches also had an opportunity to talk to the magic one.  Seems like he gets younger every year !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 14, 2019, 03:53:24 PM
Bengalsrule, You need to ask the Magicman for his Magic Wand.
I'm sure you guys were hanging out before and after the game.
I know he carry's it to Memorial Hall, think you need to borrow it for a few weeks.
I think the Plattsburgh Cardinals don't need it right now.

I asked him Friday night for a victory for my Red Dragons and he came through.
I knew Saturday against Brockport would be pushing it, but think it's your time to ask.
Every game is a battle in the SUNYAC, if you don't bring every night you are going to lose.
Think the conference this season is the most competitive in years.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2019, 11:41:09 PM
A new D3hoops Top 25 was released tonight and Plattsburgh State has moved from the #17 spot to #15. They received 254 points which is  67 more than they got last week.


Rochester is the only other East Region team to make the poll and they are ranked #22 with 111 points. The Yellowjackets fell 10 spots after going 0-2 over the weekend in the UAA. They lost 173 points. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2019, 11:55:08 PM
Plattsburgh States's Ian Howard was selected as the SUNYAC's Player of the Week for the week ending January 13th. Ian had an outstanding week doing what he does best and that's getting rebounds for his team. He's the unsung hero for the Cardinals as he gets the rebounds, the loose balls and many times just keeps the ball alive with a tap back or a dive on the floor to flick it to a teammate or tie up the other team's player. Nobody on Plattsburgh State works harder than Ian and nobody seems to have as much fun as Ian who always has a smile on his face. Not the big scorer, just a guy who beats you a number of ways. 

Ian had 41 rebounds and 36 points in 3 games along with a pair of double-doubles. Congratulations to Ian on a great week.

Here's the write-up from the SUNYAC website:

  "CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected Plattsburgh senior Ian Howard (Queens, N.Y.) as the Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Howard averaged 12 points per game and 13.7 rebounds per game in Plattsburgh State's three game sweep this past week. In Tuesday's 79-76 buzzer-beater win over Potsdam, Howard shot 75% from both the floor and the free throw line, recording a double-double with a total of 12 points and a career-high 18 rebounds. The senior added three steals and three blocks as well. On Friday, Howard recorded eight points and eight rebounds in the Cardinals' 92-71 triumph over Fredonia. Howard then proceeded to record his second double-double of the week with 16 points and 15 rebounds in Plattsburgh State's 85-83 victory over Buffalo State. The Cardinal played 84 minutes last week, and while making 55% of his field goals."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2019, 06:22:37 PM
Jan. 15     Three games scheduled for tonight with two of them conference matchups.




Pitt-Bradford  @  Fredonia State        7:00 PM

The Blue Devils take on their last non-conference opponent tonight looking to get win #2. Pitt-Bradford may be just what the doctor ordered. The Panthers are 3-10 this season and their 1 road win was at a school who is 0-15. Fredonia is favored to win this game by 6 points and after the way they've been playing lately I think they may come out on top. Blue Devils 73 Panthers 68.



Cortland State  @  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

These Red Dragons will be looking to bounce back from the loss to Oswego on Saturday, that ended their 8 game winning streak. The Hawks came oh so close to a perfect weekend against Brockport and Geneseo, beating the Knights on Saturday, after falling to Port in the last 10 seconds of the game on Friday evening.

The oddsmakers have made Cortland an 8 point road favorite in this game. The Hawks have played well in all 3 home conference games but I think Cortland has too much firepower for the Hawks to handle. Cortland is 8-2 in the last 10 games against New Paltz. I think they win another one tonight. Cortland 85 New Paltz 75.

   
Oswego State  @  Oneonta State        7:30 PM

So apparently the Lakers are who we thought they were....they slipped a bit at the end of December against a couple of non-conference foes but came roaring back with a pair of double digit conference wins this past week. Tonight they take on the other Red Dragons after easily disposing of their cousins in Cortland on Saturday.

Oneonta has struggled in the conference all season and if you had told me they would be 1-5 after 6 games, I would have bet a substantial amount that they wouldn't be. It won't get any easier tonight as they take on the league leaders, who have yet to taste defeat in the YAC. The oddsmakers have made Oswego a 7 point road favorite. I have to think they continue their winning ways. Oswego State 79 Oneonta State 73. 
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Post by: magicman on January 15, 2019, 08:08:21 PM
Oneonta leads Oswego 40-33 at the half.

Kevin Mackin with 13 points for the Red Dragons and Harrison Deegan with 7.

Liam Sanborn leads the Lakers with 12 points and Brandan Gartland has 10.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2019, 08:31:04 PM
Cortland all over New Paltz 67-38 with 11 minutes to go in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2019, 08:32:20 PM
Fredonia rolling against Pitt-Bradford as they lead 75-50 with 2 minutes to play in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2019, 09:04:34 PM
Fredonia wins  79-53 over Pitt-Bradford.

De'Quan Smith with 17 points to lead the Blue Devils.  Bediako Nyasa was right behind with 16 points. Mark Morgan had 12 points and 9 boards.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2019, 09:39:54 PM
Oswego 72 Oneonta 69

The Lakers' Brandan Gartland hits a 3 pointer at the buzzer as Oswego escapes from Oneonta with the W. Oneonta's Joseph Bull hit a layup with 9 seconds left to tie the game at 69. Oswego's Liam Sanborn then dribbled the length of the court, drove toward the basket and kicked it back out to Gartland who had a clear shot and he drained it. Tough one to lose for the Red Dragons.

Great game to watch as the teams went at each other the entire night. Neither team could get much of an advantage on the other and the final 10 minutes featured 6 ties and 5 lead changes. The largest lead in the 2nd half was 8 points by Oneonta early on but the Lakers cut into that quickly and it was no more than a 2 possession game the rest of the way.

Liam Sanborn led Oswego and was the games's high scorer with 19 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists.

Joe Sullivan had 16 points 7 rebounds and 3 steals.

Brandan Gartland had 15 points, 7 rebounds and 5 assists.

Tyler Pierre had a game high 9 rebounds and just missed a double-double with 9 points.


Oneonta got 18 points and 3 rebounds from Kevin Mackin.

Andres Rivera had 16 points, 5 rebounds and 3 steals.

Joseph Bull had 15 points, a team high 8 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Oswego won the shooting percentages and outrebounded the Red Dragons by a 38-26 margin.  Oneonta only had 5 turnovers to 15 for the Lakers.

Oswego improved to 12-2 overall and 6-0 in the SUNYAC. They will be back in action this Friday at 7:30 PM when they host #15 Plattsburgh State in a battle that could determine who's in first place.

Oneonta falls to 6-7 overall and 1-6 in the YAC. They will travel to Buffalo State this weekend to take on the Bengals at 7:30 Friday night.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2019, 03:20:17 AM
Cortland 89  New Paltz 67

Cortland trailed 12-11 after 5 minutes then exploded with a 28-6 run that made it 39-18 and that set the tone for the rest of the way. The Red Dragons were up by 30 points at the break 51-21. The Hawks didn't give up and cut the lead to 18 on several occasions but the big hole they dug was too deep.

Cortland's Nicky Bonura led all scorers as he went 9x14 from the field. All 9 buckets were of the 3 point variety and he finished with 27 points. He added 6 rebounds as well.

Justin Cooper had 15 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals.

Ryan Schmadel had 14 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists.

New Paltz got 18 points from Nick Paquette and all his shots were also from downtown as he was 6x10. He added 4 rebounds and a steal in 24 minutes off the bench.

Scott Reisert had 10 points and 4 rebounds.

Isaiah Bien-Aise was the leading rebounder in the game with 10 boards. He added 2 assists, 2 points and a block in 19 minutes off the bench.

Cortland ups their record to 11-3 overall and 5-2 in the conference. They will host Potsdam State on Friday at 7:30 PM.

New Paltz is now 7-7 overall and 2-5 in the YAC. They travel to Fredonia for a Friday night game also at 7:30 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 16, 2019, 01:36:02 PM
      Cortland made school-record 21 shots from 3-point range, including 15 in the opening half enroute to 30-point halftime lead, and RDragons cruised at New Paltz. Cortland's previous school record for 3-pointers in a game was 18 on four occasions, including earlier this season at Old Westbury.

     N. Bonura matched his career high with nine 3-pointers. He finished 9-of-12 from the arc, with six of those makes coming on seven attempts in the first half. Nine RDragons contributed to the 3-point onslaught. Corts went 15-of-23 from longrange in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Jan. 16  Only game in town tonight.   

#7 Hamilton  @  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

#7 Hamilton rolls into Geneseo tonight looking to start another winning streak. The Continentals won their first 13 games before they lost to Wesleyan 5 days ago. They came back with a win against Connecticut College on Saturday to stretch their record to 14-1.

Geneseo is in a funk having lost 5 in a row and they will be hard pressed to end that streak tonight. They haven't won in over a month and the oddsmakers have them listed as a 17 point home dog.  Last year the Knights had Hamilton on the ropes late but let them escape. Tonight they won't get the Continentals close to the ropes. Hamilton wins this one 87-70.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2019, 09:59:20 PM
Hamilton 68  Geneseo 43

This was a close game for about 11 minutes of the first half. Hamilton was down 14-13 with 9:42 left in the half and turned up the heat on the Knights. A 17-4 run over the next 6 minutes put the Continentals up by a dozen at 30-18 and they never let Geneseo back in the game. Hamilton ended the half with another burst and had a 41-23 lead at the break. The lead kept growing in the 2nd half and reached as much as 31 points.

The Knights were led by Elijah Wingfield with 10 points, 4 rebounds and 4 steals in 19 minutes off the bench. Joseph Harclerode III led the team with 8 rebounds.

Geneseo drops to 4-10 overall (1-6 YAC) and will visit travel partner Brockport on Saturday for a 4:00 PM matchup.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 17, 2019, 10:09:59 PM
magicman:

Good luck to your guys tomorrow!  Seems like a big game.

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 17, 2019, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: AllStar on January 17, 2019, 10:09:59 PM
magicman:

Good luck to your guys tomorrow!  Seems like a big game.

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Nice format All star.  Will we see you at the Oneonta game tomorrow?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 17, 2019, 11:45:28 PM
QuoteNice format All star.  Will we see you at the Oneonta game tomorrow?

I think you are confusing me with All-Time  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2019, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 17, 2019, 11:45:28 PM
QuoteNice format All star.  Will we see you at the Oneonta game tomorrow?

I think you are confusing me with All-Time  ;D

Oops. Yes.  That happens every now and then although you are more than welcomed to come brave the projected 20 inches of snow this weekend to visit the Queen City and take him some hoops in the premier SUNYAC arena !

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 18, 2019, 12:10:35 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 18, 2019, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 17, 2019, 11:45:28 PM
QuoteNice format All star.  Will we see you at the Oneonta game tomorrow?

I think you are confusing me with All-Time  ;D

Oops. Yes.  That happens every now and then although you are more than welcomed to come brave the projected 20 inches of snow this weekend to visit the Queen City and take him some hoops in the premier SUNYAC arena !

Go BENGALS

Seems like a ton of New York and New England is slated for 12-20 inches of snow!  I hope teams have safe travels to and from and can get the games in on Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2019, 12:56:09 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 17, 2019, 10:09:59 PM
magicman:

Good luck to your guys tomorrow!  Seems like a big game.

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It's a big weekend Allstar.  Back to back games against two of the top 4, starting with first place Oswego. Then it's on to Cortland who could still end up in first place when it's all said and done. 4 decent teams at the top of the YAC and I expect it to be a battle to the final weekend between them. Those two plus Brockport will still have to come to our house though. Hoping the worst we do over the weekend is split.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2019, 04:19:52 AM
Jan. 18     Four games, all in conference action, on the slate for tonight.


New Paltz State  @  Fredonia State        6:00 PM

The Hawks are currently in a playoff position. Beating teams below them in the standings is paramount if they want to stay there. In sole possession of 6th place, at the moment, a loss tonight could drop them down to 8th. Fredonia needs a win for all of the same reasons. Currently in 8th place a win would put them in the 6th spot.

The oddsmakers have made the Hawks a 5 point road favorite in this one. Neither team has had much success over the past 5 years but New Paltz has won 6 of the past 10 matchups. I've seen both teams play and think the Hawks will win a close one. New Paltz 74 Fredonia 70. 


#15 Plattsburgh State  @  Oswego State        7:30 PM    The Featured Game of the Day

Another battle for the top spot with the winner taking over first place if only for a day. Oswego wants to keep that unblemished conference record intact, of course, as well as protect their home court. The Cardinals don't want to fall 2 games off the pace. Plattsburgh beat the Lakers 3 times last year which was a rarity as these teams usually take turns beating each other. Two years ago the Lakers took a pair from Plattsburgh by a total of 3 points. The series is equally as tight, with the Cardinals holding a slight 7-6 edge over the last 5 years. 

The oddsmakers have made Oswego a 4 point home favorite which seems logical based on their undefeated home record of 8-0 so far this year. I think the Cardinals could put an end to that streak and see a final score of 83-79 with Plattsburgh on top. 

Oneonta State  @  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The best way to pick the winner of this game is to flip a coin. Even my crystal ball is to fogged up to see the outcome. Both teams need a win in the worst way. Both teams are coming off tough, last second losses. The Bengals have been the victims of more close games than anyone in the conference. They lost 3 games last week by a total of 8 points and their other 6 losses are by 7 points or less. I think they are the best 9 loss team in the country. The Red Dragons led Oswego for a large part of their game on Tuesday night only to come up short when the Lakers hit a 3 pointer at the buzzer.

Now the point spread favors the host Bengals by the slimmest of margins...that solitary single point...making this game the coin flip I suggested at the beginning. So that's what I did. Buffalo State called heads and won when George showed his face. The final score will be Buffalo State 87 Oneonta 84.   

      
Potsdam State  @  Cortland State        7:30 PM

The Bears sit all alone in the 5th place playoff position by a full 2 games. They haven't been that high for quite some time. They must be dizzy from the unaccustomed heights. No need to worry though, a visit to Cortland will usually bring you down to earth. In order for the Bears to truly take the next step they need to start winning against the perennial top 4 teams. They're still a few rungs of the ladder below those guys but an occasional upset is quite possible. Tough to do on the road, though, especially against Cortland.

These Red Dragons got handled pretty good by visiting Oswego last weekend so they won't want to lose a 2nd straight home game. They did get back into the win column when they traveled downstate to easily dispose of New Paltz on Tuesday. They've owned the Bears recently going 9-1 over the last 5 years, but that 1 loss was last year in Potsdam, not on their home court. Still it gives the Bears some hope, knowing they beat, basically, the same team that they will play tonight.

The oddsmakers have Cortland listed as a 10 point favorite, the Bears will be hard pressed to keep it closer, but I think they will, just not much closer.  Cortland wins this one by a final score of 81-73.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2019, 08:06:16 PM
Plattsburgh State leads Oswego State 48-45 at the half.

Jon Patron with 16 points, Brandon Johnson with 15 points and Isaiah Hill with 9 for the Cardinals.

Tyler Pierre with 14 points, and 3 other Lakers with 6 each for Oswego.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2019, 08:09:30 PM
Upset Alert:

Potsdam State leads Cortland State 33-26 at the break.

Nosa Onabor with 11 points for the Bears. Dante Langly with 8.

Justin Cooper leads the Red Dragons with 8.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2019, 08:18:41 PM
Oneonta State 74 Buffalo State 70

Once again the Bengals come up just short and lose another close game. Down 72-70 they get 2 chances to tie or grab he lead in the last 40 seconds but come up empty both times.

Onenonta gets 20 points each from Joseph Bull and Andres Rivera. They both have double-doubles as Bull grabs 14 rebounds and has 3 steals. Rivera has 10 boards along with 4 steals. Kevin Mackin adds 12 points.

Buffalo State gets 12 points from Dom Grayer, Kay Grant and Jordan Christopher. Kareem holmes has 10 points. Grant led the team with 11 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 18, 2019, 09:15:48 PM
Potsdam 78-Cortland 69 at Cortland.  Really changes the 3-4-5 mix in the standings.  Bears to Oswego tomorrow in a major blizzard...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2019, 10:26:39 PM
Oswego 86  Plattsburgh State 84

The Lakers get a basket from Liam Sanborn with 4 seconds left on the clock to give them a win over the Cardinals in an exciting game at Max Ziel Gym.

A tale of two halves as the Cardinals led for the entire first period by as much as 12 points before the Lakers came storming back to close within 3 at the break. The 2nd half was just the reverse as Oswego opened the period on an 18-7 run that gave them the lead at 63-55 with 14:13 left to play. They would lead for the next 7 plus minutes by a 4-8 point margin, until Plattsburgh finally caught them with a quick 8-0 run of their own. Jon Patron made a 3 point play, then after Oswego came up empty, he came down and scored again inside. The Lakers missed again and Chris Middleton hit a 3 pointer to tie the game at 75 with 7:12 remaining. Two lead changes and 3 ties would take place to set the stage for Sanborn's winning bucket which came off a nice drive to the right after Allen Durutovic set a screen to free him up. Plattsburgh made the switch too late and Sanborn threw up a floater high off the glass to prevent the Cardinals Ian Howard from blocking the shot. The Cardinals quickly inbounded and had a long 3 point attempt that was off the mark.

Excellent basketball game to watch and one that I'll look forward to when the teams go at it in Plattsburgh in 3 weeks on February 9th.
The Lakers were a bit better with their shooting percentages from the field and from long range while the Cardinals were better from the stripe.  Plattsburgh won the battle of the boards by a slight margin 31-27. Both teams had 4 steals, 9 turnovers and a block. The Lakers shared the ball well and had 18 assists to a dozen for the Cardinals. I thought the ability of Oswego to get some easy layups, off some nice passes, was a key to the game. That happened more than I wanted to see it.

All five starters for Owego hit double figures led by Tyler Pierre with 22 points.
Brandon Gartland had 18 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.
Joe Sullivan had 13 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.
Quinn Carey had 13 points, 3 rebounds and a block.
Liam Sanborn just missed a double-double with 11 points and 9 assists. He added 2 boards and 2 steals and of course the winning basket.


Jon Patron led the Cardinals with 28 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists.
Brandon Johnson had 18 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.
Chris Middleton had 14 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assists.
Ian Howard got another double-double with 10 points, 11 rebounds and 2 steals. It was his 4th double-double of the season.
Isaiah Hill had 9 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a block.

Oswego strengthens their hold on first place by upping their record to 13-2 overall and 8-0 in the SUNYAC. They will take on Potsdam State tomorrow afternoon at 4:00 PM.

Plattsburgh State drops to 12-3 overall and 6-2 in the YAC. They will travel down to Cortland for a 4:00 PM contest tomorrow.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2019, 05:09:45 AM
New Paltz State 79  Fredonia 59

The Blue Devils got on the board first and led 6-2 when the Hawks went on a 15-0 run and never trailed. Fredonia cut the lead to single digits and got as close as 5 points at 27-22 with 6:39 left in the half but New Paltz went on another run near the end of the period and went into the break up by a dozen at 43-31.

The Hawks never let the Blue Devils back in the game as the lead continued to grow. The closest the Blue Devils got was 11 points, and the lead was as much as 21 points.

Scott Reisert captured scoring honors as he led New Paltz with 19 points and 7 rebounds.
Tristan Wisseman had 17 points and 6 assists.
Jake Passaretti also had 17 points with 3 assists.
Paddy Parr captured rebounding honors with 10 boards, 4 points, 4 assists and 2 steals.


Tyler Roberts was the high man for the Blue Devils with 12 points 2 rebounds and 2 steals.
Kadeem Riddick had 11 points and a team high 5 rebounds.
Isaiah Ice had 10 points, 3 steals and 2 assists.

New Paltz improves to 8-7 overall and 3-5 in the YAC. They will travel up tp Buffalo State today for a 2:00 PM start that was moved up because of the snow storm.

Fredonia drops to 2-12 and 1-6 in the conference. They will host Oneonta later today also at 2:00 PM instead of 4:00 PM. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2019, 05:42:51 AM
The Oswego State-Potsdam State game scheduled for 4:00 PM today has been postponed and rescheduled for Tuesday January 22nd at 7:30 PM. The women's game will precede the men's game at the usual 5:30 starting time.

It looks like the Brockport-Geneseo game has been rescheduled as well and is now on February 12th but the websites for both schools are not yet posting that fact.

Other Saturday games with the usual 2:00 PM women's game followed by the 4:00 PM men's game may have a different start time because of the approaching snow storm. Some now have the women's game at 12 noon and the men at 2:00 PM They are Fredonia-Oneonta game and the Buffalo State-New Paltz game.

Plattsburgh State at Cortland State is listed at 1:00 PM for the women's game and 3:00 PM for the men.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2019, 02:05:02 PM
Jan. 19    The snowstorm has reduced play today to just 3 games. Also limited my time here so just some quick picks
   

Oneonta State  @  Fredonia State        2:00 PM

The Red Dragons are looking to get back into the conference race and a win today coupled with a loss by New Paltz could give them identical YAC records. Fredonia is looking to escape the basement and build on their recent wins. Oneonta is listed as a 13 point road favorite but the Blue Devils have not lost many by that margin at home. Oneonta wins, Fredonia covers. Red Dragons 81 Blue Devils 69.



New Paltz State  @  Buffalo State        2:00 PM

The Bengals need to catch a break. A loss here could leave them all alone in last place. The Hawks could open a little daylight between them and the rest of the contenders for that final playoff spot. The oddsmakers have Buffalo favored by 5 points. I think they finally do catch a break. Buffalo State 87 New Paltz 83.

   
Plattsburgh State  @  Cortland State        3:00 PM      Featured Game of the Day

Plattsburgh needs a win here to stay with the leaders. Cortland needs a win to stay with the leaders. PLattsburgh doesn't want a long bus ride home with an 0-2 weekend to mull over. These Red Dragons don't want to lose their 3rd game in a row at home. Bound to be another barnburner and the oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 4 point road favorite. I'm sticking with my Cardinals (did you expect anything different?) and see them winning by an 87-84 final score. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2019, 04:00:54 PM
New Paltz defeats Buffalo State 66-64

Oneonta defeats Fredonia 106-63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2019, 04:04:34 PM
Plattsburgh leads Cortland 42-2 at the half.

Jon Patron with 17 points and Brandon Johnson with 12 for the Cardinals.

Ryan Schmadel with 8 for the Red Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2019, 06:13:16 PM
Cortland State 65  Plattsburgh State 63

Another barnburner in Cortland as the Red Dragons come from 14 points down and get a 3 pointer by Zach Lydon with 20 seconds left in the game to go up 65-63. Plattsburgh with a chance to win it or send it to overtime elects to go for the tie but the shot hits the rim and goes out of bounds as the horn sounds to end the game.

Two tough losses in two days for the Cardinals and shuffles them back in the pack. Two games they should have won. The season is only half over yet so their is still a race that can be won. Kudos to Cortland for the comeback.

Brendan Fitzpatrick led a balance Cortland effort with 16 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.
Nicky Bonura had 12 points. 6 rebounds and 5 assists.
Ryan Schmadel had 11 points and 3 rebounds.
Kenny Charles had 10 points, 4 rebounds, 2 steals, 2 blocks and 1 helper.
Zach Lydon had 9 points, 5 rebounds, and 4 blocks., along with that big game winning 3 pointer.
Justin Cooper had a team high 7 rebounds, 6 points, 1 assist and a steal.


Jon Patron captured scoring honors as he tossed in 29 points and completed another double-double with 14 rebounds. He added 4 assists a block and a steal.
Brandon Johnson had 16 points, 4 rebounds, 4 steals and 1 assist.
Chris Middleton had 11 points, 6 rebounds and a block.
Travis Cox had 7 rebounds and 4 points in 19 minutes off the bench.

Cortland outshot the Cardinals in all 3 categories and while neither team lit it up from long range Cortland did make 8x32 from downtown while Plattsburgh only went 3x17. It's a familiar story in the Cardinals' losses.

Plattsburgh did outrebound Cortland by a 44-34 margin, but the Red Dragons won the turnover battle with only 11 giveaways to 15 for the Cardinals.

Cortland improves to 12-4 overall and 6-3 in the YAc. They will host Buffalo State next Friday at 7:30 PM.

Plattsburgh drops to 12-4 overall and is tied with Cortland at 6-3 in the league. They will host Brockport next Friday at 7:30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 19, 2019, 09:09:55 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 20, 2019, 01:04:01 AM
3.28 pts. That's the average margin of defeat for my BENGALS in 7 SUNYAC loses.  The worse of which was vs New Paltz Saturday. Can't remember the last time I saw a teAm, any team, with the ball, in a tie game with 1.3 seconds left in the game.....and lose.  Until today's game!

Give New Paltz credit.  They came up with an inbounds play, after my guys turned the ball over without it being touched in bounds, and the Hawks cashed it in.  This one hurts..really hurts. No time to feel sorry or lick wounds with a trip to Brockport Tuesday.

No magic wand is needed.  No amount of crying helps. Time for my boys to man the f- - k and play like I know that they can play. Fought back from 65-48 deficit Friday night vs Oneonta to get within 2 (72-70) and couldn't close the deal   Down 64-57 vs New Paltz with under 3:30 and tied the game up but couldn't close the deal   Every loss, except Oswego , we've been a basket away from winning or tie game!

Grand mama used to say " if it don't kill ya, it's gonna make you stronger". Well my BENGALS ain't dead so hopefully they will be mentally stronger than they've been all year long.  Love these guys. They deserve better but last I checked ain't no body giving a rats a-s about Buff State but Buff State. It's on us to get us better.  To finish what we start.  Hopefully my guys will realize that Tuesday.  If they do...then watch out.

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 22, 2019, 04:43:44 PM
Hopefully Magic will post his spreads but 4 meaningful games on tap for tonight.

Bears and Oswego match up in the polar vortex at Laker Hall [ppd from Saturday].  Lakers are undefeated and tough at Laker Hall.

Oneonta Red Dragons move up in class to take on a 15-2 Williams team on a two game skid after winning 15 to start the season.

Freddy at Genny in the MacVittie cup [President at both schools], winner has a shot at the top 6, loser probably done.

Buff State and Brockport will tangle, and Bengals Rule
is hoping the Bengals can prevail in a physical and probably very athletic game.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2019, 06:29:33 PM
Jan. 22     7 teams back in action after  the big storm knocked out some games over the weekend.   

     

Oneonta State  @ #8 Williams        7:00 PM

The Red Dragons will have their work cut out for them as they take on the top ranked team in the NESCAC conference. Williams has been ranked #2 or #3 for the first 6 weeks of the poll but dropped to #8 yesterday after two losses last week. It doesn't make a difference where they are ranked they are one of the best teams in Division III. It could be a long night for Oneonta. The oddsmakers don 't give the Red Dragons much hope either as they list them as a 16 point dog. Williams beat Oneonta last year as a visitor by a 75-56 final score. Williams is a stronger team this year.  I'm hoping that Oneonta can keep it closer than the spread but see the Ephs winning this game 82- 65. Hope I'm wrong, though.     



Potsdam State  @  Oswego State        7:30 PM

The game that was supposed to be on Saturday was moved to this Tuesday date. The Bears are fresh off an upset of Cortland and would like to add another upset here. They beat Oswego last year when they invaded Laker Hall so they have that going for them. Oswego is coming off an emotional win against the reigning champs with that last second victory over Plattsburgh on Friday night.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 12 point home favorite in this one. I think they win by a final score of 80-71.



Fredonia State  @  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

The Knights have revenge on their minds as they host the Blue Devils in a rematch of the double overtime loss that Fredonia laid on them 2 weeks ago. Both teams looking for a 2nd conference win and want to avoid the basement of the SUNYAC. The point spread favors the home team Knights by a dozen points. I think they get their revenge by a final score of 74-65. 



Buffalo State  @  Brockport State        7:30 PM

I'm not sure why the basketball gods have treated Buffalo State with such disdain. The Bengals can't catch a break no matter how hard they try. Watching them lose the New Paltz game on Saturday was a headshaker to say the least. Now they travel to Brockport and face a team that has dealt them so many disappointing losses recently that you have to feel for the Orange and Black. THe oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 10 point home favorite and it's hard to argue with them. I have to think the Bengals will cover the spread since they have lost  2 conference games by 2 points, 3 conference games by 3 points, 1 conference game by 4 points and 1 conference  game by 6 points. In fact no one has beaten this team by 10 points all year long. Final score Brockport 90 Buffalo State 83.      
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2019, 06:53:16 PM
A new D3hoops Top 25 poll was released and Plattsburgh State has dropped out of the Top 25 and into the Others Receiving Votes category.  The Cardinals (12-4), were ranked #15 last week with 254 points, but after a pair of close last second losses over the weekend they are now #27 with only 42 points.

Oswego State (13-2), who defeated Plattsburgh in one of those close losses, has returned to the poll in the Others Receiving Votes category. The Lakers dropped out of the poll completely for several weeks but are back at #32 with 18 points.

Rochester is the only team in the East Region that remains in the Top 25, as the Yellowjackets (13-3), are #21 with 117 points. Last week they were #22 with 111 points.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2019, 07:15:59 PM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending January 20th was Oswego State's Liam Sanborn. He had 19 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists against Oneonta on Tuesday and then had 11 points, 9 assists , 2 rebounds and 2 steals against Plattsburgh on Friday night, including the game winner with just a couple of tick left on the clock. I was praying for overtime at that point but Liam would have none of that.


Here's the post from the SUNYAC website:  Congratulations to Liam The shot against Plattsburgh was a heck of a shot. I rewound it 5 times hoping it would lip out! :(



"CORTLAND. N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has selected Oswego sophomore Liam Sanborn (Staten Island, N.Y.) as the Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Sanborn posted 30 points, 12 assists, eight rebounds and three steals last weekend. The sophomore was instrumental in the Lakers' 86-84 upset of nationally-ranked Plattsburgh, recording the game-winning basket with just seconds remaining in the contest. Plattsburgh came into the contest ranked 15th in the country and led by as many as 12 in the early going before the Lakers stormed back for the victory. The Staten Island, N.Y. native ran the clock to less than 10 seconds and beat his primary defender to the lane. With a Cardinal post player stepping up to take away the layup, the sophomore floated a shot off the backboard and in with 3.9 seconds showing on the clock. A 40-foot desperation heave for Plattsburgh missed to the right at the final buzzer. Sanborn had 11 points and nine assists, playing all 40 minutes of the contest, the only Laker to do so."
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2019, 11:56:45 PM
Buffalo State 88 Brockport State 80

The Bengals must have sacrificed one of their assistant coaches to the basketball gods as they finally broke their unlucky streak with a victory over the Golden Eagles. Oswego, Plattsburgh and Cortland are certainly happy with the Bengals' coaching staff right now.

In a back and forth game that saw 4 ties and 12 lead changes Buffalo State saved their best for last. Tied at 70 with 5:44 left to play the Bengals got a steal and a layup from Christopher Jordan. That was followed with another steal by Buff State's Yosh Bernardez on Brockport's next possession. The Bengals called timeout and shortly after play resumed got a jumper from Dom Grayer to increase  the lead to 4 points with 3:27 left. Brockport scored inside, the Bengals answered with a pair from the stripe and after Brockport came up empty, Grayer hit what may have been the biggest shot of the night, when he buried a 3 pointer to put the Bengals up by 7 with 2:14 to play. Another Port turnover and a score by Buff State gave the Orange and Black a 9 point lead. Never say die Brockport, managed to cut the lead to 5 points with a minute left, but when Jordan scored inside for the Bengals with 56 seconds left the Golden Eagles had to foul down the stretch and Buffalo State went 5 of 6 from the line to post the 8 point win.

I'm sure the bus ride back to Buffalo was the best ride home the Bengals have had all year long!!! ;D       

The Bengals were led by freshman Kemron Frederick who came outta nowhere, in his first ever start, to grab scoring honors with 18 points in 19 minutes of court time.
Sheldon Adams added 16 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals.
Kay Grant has a double-double with 11 points and a game high 10 rebounds.
Christopher Jordan had 10 points. 4 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal.
Yosh Bernardez had 7 points, 6 assists. 6 steals and 5 rebounds.
Kareem Homes had 9 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.
Dom Grayer usually among the leading scorers only had 7 points but 5 of them came in crunch time and were huge. He added 2 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

It looked to be a total team effort that got the win for the Bengals as 10 different players broke into the scoring column and 11 players had rebounds.

Brockport's leading scorers were Brandon Kennedy-Gay and Jahidi Wallace who both tallied 14 points, both coming off the bench to do so. Kennedy-Gay added a pair of assists in 16 minutes of court time. Wallace also had 4 rebounds and a block in 18 minute on the floor.
Danny Ashley had 11 points, 8 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal in 24 minutes off the bench. 
Montgomery Stromen had 10 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist in 20 minutes off the bench.
Justin Summers had 9 points, 8 rebounds,4 blocks and a steal.
Devante Hagins just missed a double-double as he had 9 points and grabbed 9 boards.

Brockport got 52 of 80 points scored from their bench.

Buffalo State outshot Brockport from the field and from long range by a small amount and they both made 17 free throws. The Bengals owned a 39-38 edge in rebounds. Both teams were turnover prone due to the pressure defense both teams use. Brockport lost the battle as they had 23 turnovers to 18 for the Bengals. It was the turnovers in the last 7:40 of the game that proved to be the turning point as Brockport gave up the ball 5 times that led to 8 Bengal points which just happens to be the exact margin of victory. The Bengals had 4 turnovers in that span but Brockport was only able to capitalize for a total of 2 points.

Buffalo State improves to 4-11 overall and 2-7 in the SUNYAC. They will return to action on Friday night when they travel to Cortland for a 7:30 PM tip off.

Brockport falls to 10-5 overall and 6-2 in the YAC. They make the long trip to the North Country this weekend and their first stop is Memorial Hall for a rematch with Plattsburgh State on Friday at 7t:30 PM I'm hoping for a contest similar to the one that took place back on December 7th when the Golden Eagles defeated Plattsburgh by a single point. I just want a different winner.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 23, 2019, 12:00:28 AM
Other scores from Tuesday night.


Oswego State 72  Potsdam State 70

Geneseo State 71 Fredonia State 62

Williams 73  Oneonta State 54.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 23, 2019, 01:09:29 PM
So Happy for the Buffalo State Bengals.
Quality win last night against Brockport.
I know one guy that is walking on water today. ;D
Hopefully this gets them going.

After Magicman's Cardinals losing 2 straight last weekend.
The SUNYAC is open for the taking.

Excited to see what teams will show up down the stretch.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 23, 2019, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 23, 2019, 01:09:29 PM
So Happy for the Buffalo State Bengals.
Quality win last night against Brockport.
I know one guy that is walking on water today. ;D
Hopefully this gets them going.

After Magicman's Cardinals losing 2 straight last weekend.
The SUNYAC is open for the taking.

Excited to see what teams will show up down the stretch.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Amen!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on January 24, 2019, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 23, 2019, 01:09:29 PM
After Magicman's Cardinals losing 2 straight last weekend.
The SUNYAC is open for the taking.

Excited to see what teams will show up down the stretch.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I don't think you can say the league is "open for the taking" until someone beats Oswego.  They have a two game lead in the standings now.  At the moment, I would say there is a battle for second place, but the regular season title is Oswego's to lose...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 24, 2019, 11:39:38 AM
spwood- Probably true.

But in the SUNYAC anything can happen.
A lot of tough games down the stretch fro all the top teams.

Just enjoying the madness.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 24, 2019, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: spwood on January 24, 2019, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: All-Time on January 23, 2019, 01:09:29 PM
After Magicman's Cardinals losing 2 straight last weekend.
The SUNYAC is open for the taking.

Excited to see what teams will show up down the stretch.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I don't think you can say the league is "open for the taking" until someone beats Oswego.  They have a two game lead in the standings now.  At the moment, I would say there is a battle for second place, but the regular season title is Oswego's to lose...

I would agree that at THIS point its Oswego's to lose but I wouldn't start ordering Oswego SUNYAC Host t shirts just yet. 5 of their last 7 games are on the road including at Potsdam, Brockport and Plattsburgh.  No one is guaranteed anything yet but as the 2nd half of SUNYAC begins tomorrow, we know that many of these contests will came down to the wire. Hopefully All Time will keep us updated on the standings over the last 2 weeks!  Only in the Yac can a top 20 team lose twice on the road.  That's an indication (I believe ) of how strong this league is. I convinced that the Yac is , at minimum, a 3 bid league!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 24, 2019, 05:11:40 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2019, 05:37:34 AM
Jan. 25  Four conference games on the schedule for today


Geneseo State  @  Potsdam State                 7:30 PM

The Knights finally ended their 6 game losing streak and would like to streak in the other direction. The Bears came oh so close to extending their modest 3 game winning streak when they came up just short at Oswego the other night losing 72-70. The playoffs are in the picture for the Bears for the first time in 8 years and now they have their sights set on a first round home game. It starts with games like this one. They lost by double figures last month at Geneseo, they need to turn the tables tonight or their hopes for a home playoff game could disappear.

The Bears have lost 11 games in a row to the Knights yet the oddsmakers have made them 9 point favorites in this game. Tonight could be the night that Potsdam finally puts an end to that losing streak. Potsdam 83 Geneseo 77.     

   

Buffalo State  @  Cortland State                7:30 PM

The Bengals have a new lease on life. With the win over Brockport on Tuesday, the demons have been exorcised and all is well in the Queen City. At least for the last few days. Tonight another demon raises its head and roars. Will the Bengals be able to slay this dragon and start a streak. Cortland will be formidable, while Oswego lies in wait on Saturday. That would be one helluva trifecta....Port, Cort, and the Lakers, all in one week....the stuff dreams are made of.

Cortland rebounded nicely from the narrow loss to Potsdam by taking down Plattsburgh the very next day. They can't afford another loss if they want the top seed. The oddsmakers have them listed as an 8 point home favorite. The Bengals are talented but young, Cortland is a veteran team and more consistent. I'll go with Cortland to win by a few. Red Dragons 87 Bengals 82. 



Fredonia State  @  Oswego State                 7:30 PM

Three teams with six wins....Brockport, Cortland and Plattsburgh, now chasing Oswego with nine. The six win teams cannot afford another loss or their hope for the top seed will evaporate. The Lakers may have already opened up enough daylight to win the regular season, although the other 3 teams will have something to say about that.

Fredonia is working hard to get better. Improvement is the goal at this stage of the season. They are huge underdogs in this game as the oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 30 point favorite. Oswego won the first meeting in Fredonia by 34 points, and the Blue Devils can expect the same rude treatment when they pile into Max Ziel Gym tonight. Oswego 78 Fredonia 50.


Brockport State  @   Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM  The Featured Game of the Day

There's a lot on the line for these two teams when they tangle tonight in Memorial Hall. Neither team can afford a 4th loss if they still hope to host the conference tournament. Plattsburgh needs to avenge their 1 point loss at Brockport last month should the tiebreaker come in play later.

Both teams come into the game off a losing effort last time out and in the Cardinals' case, they are on a two game losing streak. It's their first 2 game losing streak in over 13 months. The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 5 point home favorite and I expect the usual close game that is always a part of this rivalry. Plattsburgh wins this one 85-81.                                                   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 25, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
They are drinking the cool aid in Potsdam. ;D
Magicman's alma mater is having a great season.
You know that Magic Wand is out in full force for DAAAAA BEARS.
When was the last time they were 5-3 in conference play.
Really think this season is one of the most competitive in years.
Still think the YAC is one of the toughest conferences in the country.

Enjoy the games this weekend.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 01:30:21 PM
Wondering if anyone listened to Jason Leone on Hoopsville last night ... there is a particular reason I am asking. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 25, 2019, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 25, 2019, 12:06:01 PM

When was the last time they were 5-3 in conference play.


Actually after the tough loss at Oswego on Tuesday, Da Bears stand at 5-4.  But they have Oswego, Brockport, Cortland, Plattsburgh and Genny at home during the second half of the season.  Their remaining road games are at teams they have already faced [and came out on the winning end of the score], Buff State, Fredonia, New Paltz, and Oneonta.  SUNYAC is tough, and the weather this winter doesn't make things easier.  I remember Buffalo - Fredonia road trips from Potsdam in mid winter, not for the faint of heart.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 25, 2019, 03:27:01 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 25, 2019, 12:06:01 PM

Really think this season is one of the most competitive in years.
Still think the YAC is one of the toughest conferences in the country.

Enjoy the games this weekend.

I couldn't agree with you more All Time    The YAC is back!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 03:47:49 PM
SUNYAC is tough ... no one will doubt that. Maybe Top 15 ... will have to dive into that. It is a bit like the MAC Commonwealth, which I think is the most competitive conference, though not one of the Top 10 or 15 conferences in the country. The problem is they don't produce a lot of national contenders despite being absolutely the worst gauntlet to go through.

For those wondering, my top five conferences in terms of competitiveness plus producing top quality teams (this season's rankings):

1 - WIAC
2 - CCIW
3 - NESCAC
4 - ODAC
5 - MIAC/UAA

The MIAC and UAA can go back and forth. I think the MIAC has the edge right now due to the fact they have better national powers and an incredible grind.

Along with those six and in no particular order, the NCAC, OAC, NJAC, NEWMAC, ARC, and NWC are some of the others you have to have in this conversation. I am not sure where the SUNYAC fits into that conversation right now.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2019, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 01:30:21 PM
Wondering if anyone listened to Jason Leone on Hoopsville last night ... there is a particular reason I am asking. :)

I listened to Jason last night, the entire interview. What's your reason? I'm off to the Cardinals' games in 10 minutes but will respond later tonight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2019, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 01:30:21 PM
Wondering if anyone listened to Jason Leone on Hoopsville last night ... there is a particular reason I am asking. :)

I listened to Jason last night, the entire interview. What's your reason? I'm off to the Cardinals' games in 10 minutes but will respond later tonight.

He talked about you and the rest of the group here. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2019, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2019, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 01:30:21 PM
Wondering if anyone listened to Jason Leone on Hoopsville last night ... there is a particular reason I am asking. :)

I listened to Jason last night, the entire interview. What's your reason? I'm off to the Cardinals' games in 10 minutes but will respond later tonight.

He talked about you and the rest of the group here. :)

I heard that and I know he reads the boards because he has thanked me for all the posts I do to promote our league. He's having another great year....dammit!  By the way it was a good show.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 26, 2019, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 26, 2019, 12:08:05 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 25, 2019, 05:17:55 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 25, 2019, 01:30:21 PM
Wondering if anyone listened to Jason Leone on Hoopsville last night ... there is a particular reason I am asking. :)

I listened to Jason last night, the entire interview. What's your reason? I'm off to the Cardinals' games in 10 minutes but will respond later tonight.

He talked about you and the rest of the group here. :)

I heard that and I know he reads the boards because he has thanked me for all the posts I do to promote our league. He's having another great year....dammit!  By the way it was a good show.

Thank you. We try to do our best.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2019, 12:51:39 PM
Scores from Friday night

Geneseo    63    Potsdam  84
      
Brockport    82    Plattsburgh State  88
      
Buffalo State  72   Cortland  90


Fredonia  48    Oswego State  87
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 26, 2019, 02:12:06 PM
Jan. 26   Full slate of games today as all 10 teams are in action.
   

Geneseo State  @  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM

The Cardinals are coming off a big high as they beat Brockport last night to avenge an earlier loss to the Golden Eagles. The Knights got handled by Potsdam, so they will be looking to salvage their weekend trip with a win. Plattsburgh leads this series 9-3 over the last 12 games and the oddsmakers have the Cardinals listed as a 16 point favorite in this one. Plattsburgh can't afford another loss if they have any hope for the top seed.  Plattsburgh wins this one by a final of 87-65.


   
Brockport State  @  Potsdam State         4:00 PM  Co Featured Game of the Day

Brockport has a very good team. They will be very good next year as well as they are a young team. The same can be said of the Bears. Potsdam already has several upsets this season (if you wanna call them that) with the wins over Cortland and Oneonta. Then there's the narrow 2 point loss to Oswego on the road this past Tuesday. I wouldn't call Potsdam a big underdog in this one and neither do the oddsmakers as they have made the Golden Eagles a slim 3 point favorite. I'd like to pick my Alma Mater to win this game and hope that they do, but Brockport is really good and I think they come away with a W here. Golden Eagles defensive pressure will be the Bears undoing. Brockport 81  Potsdam 75



Buffalo State  @  Oswego State                4:00 PM

The Bengals got a taste of victory on Tuesday and then went from the frying pan into the fire as they traveled to Cortland and Oswego this weekend. The first part of the weekend didn't work out very well, as they took it on the chin from Cortland. As a Plattsburgh Cardinal supporter I'm sure hoping this day turns out different for them. The Lakers keep marching on and still have that comfortable 3 game lead in the YAC. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 12 point favorite. I think that's too many but it will take a solid effort by the Bengals to pull off the upset over an Oswego team that's playing very good right now. Oswego wins this one 83-74. 


   
New Paltz State  @  Oneonta State                4:00 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Day

This one is a battle for the 6th and final playoff spot. Oneonta, having lost the earlier game to the Hawks, needs a win here in case tiebreakers come into play down the road. With a loss they will also fall 2 games behind the Hawks instead of being tied with them, so a win today is imperative. Both teams coming off 2 conference wins over the same teams last weekend and looking for 3 game conference win streaks. Oneonta has been listed as a 7 point home favorite but I think the game may be a bit closer than that. Oneonta 78 New Paltz 74.



Fredonia State  @  Cortland State                4:00 PM

Cortland has moved into a tie for the 2nd spot with Plattsburgh, but actually owns the tiebreaker over Plattsburgh at the present time. They won't stumble today facing the Blue Devils. The Red Dragons are listed as 23 point favorites. I think they win by a few more.         Cortland 93 Fredonia 68.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 26, 2019, 02:19:30 PM
Anyone recall bigger swing than in Friday's Buff St. at Cortland match? Talk about momentum swings.

Bengals go from 19 down in early moments of the second half to take one point lead eight minutes later ....  and fall by 18!!! Sharpshooter N. Bonura with 33 RDragon points -- 20 by halftime, J. Cooper 31 including slew of late-game FTs. Corts 21x23 from the stripe
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 26, 2019, 07:13:43 PM
Potsdam defeated the Brockport Golden Eagles 78-71 to remain unbeaten at home and move into 4th place in the SUNYAC standings at 7-4. The Bears have beaten all of the teams below them in the standings at least once, and their three remaining home games are against #1 Oswego, #2 Plattsburgh, and #3 Cortland [who the Bears beat at Corey 8 days ago].

Bears had 5 double figure scorers, led by Dante Langley who came off the bench to score 21 pts and grab 8 rebounds.  Nosa Onabor had 18 points and 15 rebounds to go with his 28 points and 7 rebounds the night before vs. Geneseo.

Justin Summers led the Eagles with 20 points and 8 rebounds

Both teams shot poorly, Potsdam at 37 percent, Brockport at 34 percent.  Bears outrebounded Brockport 54-37, and shot 23x25 from the charity stripe. 

Bears now 11-7 on the season, matching their win total from last season with at least 7 games remaining.

Bears host the #2 Plattsburgh Cardinals on Tuesday night at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.  Last meeting was decided on a buzzer beater at Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 26, 2019, 08:06:23 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2019, 03:26:26 AM
Final Scores for Saturday's action:

Geneseo State 64  Plattsburgh State 78

Brockport State    71  Potsdam   78

Buffalo State  72  Oswego State  81

New Paltz  69  Oneonta  52

Fredonia State  56    Cortland  73
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 27, 2019, 06:34:20 AM
Friday night recap.

Plattsburgh State 88  Brockport  82

Another classic battle between these two rivals. Always worth the price of admission to see this pair go at each other. What wasn't worth the price of admission was 3 zebras (actually two, as one was ok) blowing their whistles all night lonnnngg. It is so frustrating to see them interrupt the flow of the game over bad calls and ticky tack fouls that just left you shaking your head wondering what game these guys were watching. Both coaches gave them an earful and both coaches had ample reason to do so. 53 fouls were called in the game which is way too many blown whistles. You can call a foul every 10 seconds if you want to and these guys were certainly giving that scenario a shot. Hope they stay out of our region for the rest of this season.

When the players did get a chance to show their stuff it was a pretty darned good basketball game. Brockport took the early lead behind the hot hand of Antonio Alvarez who scored 11 points in a row for Brockport. He drained a jumper and after Plattsburgh went up 5-4 he  buried 3 bombs on 3 successive trips down the court all from long range. The Cardinals were quickly down 13-5 but came back with an 11-2 run of their own to take a 16-15 lead, fueled by 7 points from Jon Patron. 8 ties and 8 lead changs would complete the rest of the period with neither team getting any daylight from the other. They ended the half deadlocked at 41 and you just knew that was just a preview of what was coming.

This time the Cardinals struck first with an 11-4 burst and managed to go in front by 7 points at 52-45 with 16:49 left to play. It was their biggest lead so far and it didn't last long. The Golden Eagles cut it to 1 but couldn't get the go ahead bucket and Plattsburgh continued to hold the upper hand for the next 10 minutes as the lead shifted between 1 and 7 points. Still ahead by 7 at 68-61 with 11 minutes to play Brockport applied more pressure and the Cardinals didn't respond well at all, as they committed 4 turnovers in a span of
4 minutes and the Golden Eagles scored off 3 of those miscues and tied the game at 72 with 6:36 remaining. Plattsburgh called a time out to regroup and promptly turned the ball over again. This time Brockport came up empty and Plattsburgh retook the lead when Ian Howard was fouled and made 1 of 2 from the line. Brockport then went to the line but missed the front end of a 1&1. PLattsburgh went back to the line and Patron made 1 of 2. Plattsburgh rebounded the missed free throw and after a layup by Patron didn't go down, Chris Middleton grabbed the offensive rebound and got the putback to give Plattsburgh a 4 point lead. Port came up empty again and Brandon Johnson made them pay with a 3 pointer that boosted the lead to 7. Again Brockport failed to score and the Cardinals' Travis Cox was fouled. He made a pair of free throws to give Plattsburgh their largest lead of the night at 81-72 with 3:51 on the clock. The resilient Golden Eagles managed to stay alive when a 3 pointer by Devante Hagins made it a single possession game at 85-82 with 1:10  remaining. Brockport took a timeout to set their defense and sure enough created the needed turnover without having to put the Cardinals on the line. They came down and fired up the 3 ball looking for the equalizer. They missed it but got the offensive rebound, took another 3 pointer, missed that one and got another offensive rebound. This time they turned it over as Middleton stole the ball and was fouled with 42 seconds left. He made both free throws to make it a two possession game again, and that was the ballgame. Brockport missed another 3 point attempt, fouled again and the Cards got another point from the line.

I predicted this game was going to be an 85-81 Cardinal win. I was only a few points off. It would have been 85-82 without the 3 fouls shots in the last few seconds. I have to hang my hat on something this weekend after some surprising results that I didn't see coming, so I'm taking this game and running with it.  ;D

Jon Patron had a big game as he led all scorers with 34 points and all rebounders with 14 boards to post his 10 double-double of the season. He also added 3 assists.
Brandon Johnson had 14 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Chris Middleton had 13 points and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds.
Ian Howard had 10 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks.

Devante Hagins led Brockport with 19 points and 12 rebounds which gave him a double-double of his own. He added 3 blocks, 3 steals, and 2 assists.
Antonio Alvarez had 16 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists.
Davonte Jones had 13 points, 6 assists, 2 steals and 1 rebound in 18 minutes off the bench.
Justin Summers had 12 points and came up 1 rebound short of another double-double as he only had 9 boards.

Plattsburgh outshot Brockport from the field by a small margin and went 8x13 from downtown. THe Golden Eagles had a much lower percentage from long range than the Cards did but they made 11 3's in 26 attempts. Plattsburgh was 32x45 from the line while Brockport was 21x29 in that area. The Cardinals did win the boards as they grabbed 46 rebounds to only 32 for Port. Turnovers were close as Plattsburgh had 21 giveaways to 19 for Brockport. 

Plattsburgh is now 13-4 with that win and 7-3 in the conference. Brockport is 10-6 overall and 6-3 in the SUNYAC>                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2019, 06:57:23 AM
Jon Patron had 2 big games this past weekend and was rewarded with the SUNYAC Player of the Week award. It's the 2nd time Jon received the weekly award this year, having won it back in December. Plattsburgh State players have won the award 4 times this season as Brandon Johnson and Ian Howard have both also been selected as the Player of the Week.

In addition to posting his 11th double-double of the season, Jon has now scored 1728 points and needs just 7 points to break the Plattsburgh State career points record of 1734 currently held by former player and 2 time All American, Anthony Williams. He has already broken the career record for field goals with 658 and counting.

Jon leads the SUNYAC in scoring with 412 points (22.9 ppg) and also in rebounds with 193 (10.7rpg).

Congratulations to Jon for this honor and the many honors yet to come.


Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

JONATHAN PATRON, MBKB, AOW, PLATTSBURGH

Jan 28, 2019
Patron averaged 28 points and 14.5 rebounds per game as the Plattsburgh State Men's basketball team went 2-0 over the weekend. The Cardinals' 88-82 win over Brockport was led by Patron's season high 34 points. He as well grabbed 14 rebounds and added 3 assists. Patron shot exceptionally well in this game posting a 56.3% in field goals, 80% from behind the arc and went 12-18 in free throws.  On Saturday, the senior forward added to his double-double count, the 11th of his season, with 22 points and 15 rebounds in their 78-64 win over Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2019, 06:47:13 PM
Jan. 29    For the 2nd time this year we have a full schedule on a Tuesday night, with all 10 teams in action.

Not much time so just some quick picks today. Snow is coming down pretty good. Hope the teams that are traveling have safe trips. I was headed over to Potsdam to take in that game as I always do but the snowstorm has cancelled that trip. Will be hoping for a good stream from the Bears.



Plattsburgh State  @  Potsdam State        7:30 PM        Co-Featured Game of the Night

The Cardinals need to keep winning in hopes of a first round bye. They still have an outside chance of hosting the Final Four. The Bears need to keep winning in hopes of a first round bye. Yeah that's right, the lowly Potsdam Bears, of years past, could end up in 2nd place (First place seems like a reach at this point, being 4 games back with 7 to play). I'll be happy if my Alma Mater makes the playoffs but the possibility to secure a home playoff game also exists.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 5 point choice here, which has to be the least number of points they've been favored by, against Potsdam, in the last 6 years or longer. That's because the Bears took Plattsburgh right down to the final buzzer in Plattsburgh 3 weeks ago. The Bears could very well win this game as they have, like Plattsburgh, went undefeated so far in conference home games. They are both 6-0 at home. I think the Cardinals will come away with the win tonight and cover the spread. Plattsburgh 86 Potsdam 80.       



Oneonta State  @  Cortland State                7:30 PM  Co-Featured Game of the Night

The Cortland Red Dragons are in the same position as Plattsburgh with identical records. They handled Oneonta by 20 points in their matchup 3 weeks ago when they were the visiting team. Tonight they are home in Corey Gym and the point spread has Cortland favored by 7 points. They won't want to fall behind Plattsburgh and they would probably like to see Oneonta miss the playoffs altogether, after those Red Dragons beat Cortland in the YAC tournament, despite losing to them twice last year during the regular season.

Oneonta is in desperation mode at this point. They are 2 full games behind the 6th and final playoff position and to make matters worse, they have lost twice to New Paltz the team they need to beat to get there. So that's essentially a 3 game deficit they have to make up with 8 games to play. It will be hard enough to do that, another loss may be too much too overcome. I don't see Oneonta getting lucky tonight, although as a Cardinal fan I'll be rooting hard for them to knock off Cortland. Cortland wins this one 82-73       




Buffalo State  @  Geneseo State                7:30 PM

Two teams that would like the season to be starting right now. Both loaded with young players but suffering the growing pains that comes with youth. Next year will be a different story. The oddsmakers have made the Bengals a 4 point road favorite here but the Knights are pretty disciplined and run their plays well. Still the Bengals have won their 2 YAC games on the road and their star crossed season deserves a few breaks. I think they catch one here. Buffalo State 77 Geneseo 73.

   

Fredonia State  @  Brockport State                7:30 PM

The Blue Devils are another team who is playing for next season and Coach Seymore is auditioning the entire cast. 12 different players have started a game and 10 players are getting double digit minutes. Brockport is reeling from a lost weekend that dropped them from 2nd place to 5th place. The Golden Eagles have been hit with more than their share of injuries this year and when they are healthy they are as good as any team in the league. They will be out for blood tonight. It's a bad time to roll into Port. Oddsmakers have them listed as a 22 point favorite. I think they win by more. Brockport 87 Fredonia 61.   


Oswego State  @  New Paltz State                 7:30 PM

The Lakers are on cruise control as they continue to march toward the top seed. There will be some bumps in the road as they have to play the other 5 teams currently in playoff position behind them and 4 of those 5 games are on the road. We all know how brutal road games in the YAC can be. The Hawks have a solid lead in the race for the final playoff spot. I don't think they can move up the ladder any higher, but New Paltz will be gunning for the upset, especially since Brockport is the team directly in front of them. Playing in Hawk Hall will give them an edge, but neither the oddsmakers or this prestidigitator think that the Hawks can turn that advantage into a W. The point spread is a double digit 10 points but I think the Lakers win by more. Oswego State 85-67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
Oneonta with a big lead over Cortland 48-30 at the half.

Kevin Mackin 18 point for Oneonta. Ian Schultz has 11 points and 9 rebounds for Oneonta as well. Joseph Bull with 9 points and 4 boards.

Zach Lydon with 16 points to lead Cortland.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2019, 08:24:49 PM
Oswego leads New Paltz 25-20 at the half.

Brockport up 38-5 on Fredonia with 5 minutes left in the first half. Can't get live stats to work there either.

Buffalo state leading Geneseo 51-36 with 19 minutes to play in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2019, 08:26:28 PM
Plattsburgh 40 Potsdam 31 at the half.

Jon Patron with at least 8 points to break the all time Plattsburgh State scoring record.  No working live stats for this game so I can't get any info.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2019, 09:44:19 PM
Final scores from Tuesday night:

Plattsburgh 77 Potsdam 75   in overtime

Oneonta 85  Cortland 70

Oswego 67 New Paltz 46

Buffalo State 91 Geneseo 69

Brockport 107  Fredonia 52



SUNYAC Standings
1.  Oswego                    12-0
2.  Plattsburgh               9-3
3.  Cortland                   8-4
4.  Brockport                 7-4
5. Potsdam                    7-5
6.  New Paltz                 5-6
7.  Oneonta                   4-7
8.  Buffalo State             3-9
9.  Geneseo                   2-9
10. Fredonia                  1-11
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2019, 10:17:56 PM
The new D3hoops Top 25 was posted last night and Oswego State and Plattsburgh State both sit just outside the Top 25 in the Others Receiving Votes category.

Oswego State is #26 with 47 points.   Last week they were #32 with 18 points.

Plattsburgh State is #27 with 29 points. Last week they were #27 with 42 points.  I think the Lakers and Cards just swapped a few points.

Rochester is #28 with 21 points. Last week they were ranked in the Top 25 at #21 with 117 points. They lost to Brandeis and dropped out.

No other East team is getting points. 
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 31, 2019, 02:26:53 PM
It's getting close to playoff time and my Oneonta Red Dragons just spanked Cortland.
I'm looking into Magicman's crystal ball and it looks like another Championship run for Coach Conover.
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2019, 07:04:10 AM
Feb. 1
 
Only 2 games on tap tonight after two games were casualties of the heavy snowstorms plaguing the western part of the state


Plattsburgh State at  Buffalo State was postponed until Sunday. The women will play at noon and the men will follow at 2 PM.

Potsdam State at Fredonia State was also changed until Sunday, with the games at the same times 12 and 2.

The Saturday games with all ten teams in action will remain as scheduled. 



Oneonta State  @  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

The Red Dragons won the first go around with the Knights and it wasn't pretty, beating Geneseo 83-56. The Red Dragons seem to be on the mend as they have won 3 of their last 4 conference games and are coming off a dominant win at Cortland on Tuesday. The Knights are still struggling and are 1-9 in their last 10 with only a win over last place Fredonia.  Oneonta, with a win and a New Paltz loss can tie their travel partners for the 6th playoff spot. The Hawks will still hold the tiebreaker over Oneonta by virtue of their 2 wins in head to head play, but it will make for great drama down the stretch as they fight for position. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta an 8 point favorite. I think they win by a score of 82-70. 


New Paltz State  @  Brockport State   7:30 PM

The Hawks had Brockport on the ropes 3 weeks ago when they led by 8 points with 3:37 left in the game. The Golden Eagles pulled another one of their great escapes though, and took the lead with a 9-0 run in just 84 seconds. The Hawks still had a chance to win though, as they had a 63-62  lead and the ball with just 11 ticks left. They never got another shot as they turned it over, Brockport scored on a layup to go ahead by a point, the Hawks turned it over again with 5 seconds left and had to foul. Port made 1 of 2 and the clock ran out after the missed free throw. I know a certain coach that would like to have that one back. If New Paltz comes up short in their bid to make the playoffs that would be the game to point to, that cost them the opportunity.

New Paltz needs a win here to stay in front of Oneonta and have a comfort zone. The problem for the Hawks is Brockport is healthier than they were 3 weeks ago when they played without Justin Summers, their number one scorer and at the time their leading rebounder as well. I don't think they will walk out of Tuttle North Gym with a W and neither do the oddsmakers who have made Brockport an 8 point home favorite. I think they win by a few more. Brockport 86 New Paltz 72.         

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2019, 08:09:33 PM
Oneonta leads Geneseo 36-35 at the half.

Oneonta led by 13 points from Andres Rivera.

Kevin Mackin and Joseph Bull with 9 each.  Bull with 7 boards.

Geneseo led by Zack Panebianco with 14 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2019, 08:19:10 PM
New Paltz giving Brockport all they can handle. A one point game 33-32 with Port on top and 2:21 to play. The Golden Eagles score again with a minute left in the half to go into the locker room up 35-32.

Justin Summers and Danny Ashley both with 8 points for Brockport. Summers has 5 rebounds.
Jahidi Wallace with 7 points.

Tristan Wissemann with 8 points to lead the Hawks.
Scott Reisert with 7 points and 3 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2019, 09:12:53 PM
Oneonta defeats Geneseo 89-77.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 01, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
New Paltz pulls off another upset as they defeat host Brockport 69-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2019, 03:44:38 PM
Feb. 2    Full slate of action this afternoon   

New Paltz State  @  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

The Hawks got a big win yesterday, knocking off Brockport. Geneseo's losing streak is now at 4 games and the Knights are just 1-10 in their last 11 outings. Oddsmakers have them as a 3 point home dog. I think they turn the tables on the Hawks and pull off the mild upset. Geneseo wins this one 75-71.



Plattsburgh State  @  Fredonia State     4:00 PM

Cardinals and Blue Devils back in action after waiting out the storm. Plattsburgh is a heavy favorite in this one as the point spread is 25 points. The Cardinals have only won 1 game by 25 points all year as they continually squander double digit leads, but they should take care of business today. Plattsburgh 89  Fredonia 67.   


Oneonta State  @  Brockport State          4:00 PM

Oneonta needs to do what New Paltz did yesterday and that's beat the Golden Eagles in their own barn. That's a tall order, even for fire breathing dragons. Golden Eagles can fly much faster. I don't see Brockport losing back to back games at home. Neither do the experts as they have made Brockport a 4 point favorite. Brockport wins a tight one 80-75.


Potsdam State  @  Buffalo State          4:00 PM

The Bears and the Bengals also back in action after the storm. Potsdam listed as a slim 2 point favorite. I think the Bengals pull a reversal of the game in Potsdam back in January when the Bears won by coming from behind in the last few minutes. Buffalo State 78 Potsdam 75.


   
Cortland State  @  Oswego State           4:00 PM  Featured Game of the Day

These Red Dragons are 6-7 against Oswego in the last 6 years. If they have any hopes of catching the first place Lakers they have to win today's game and hope the other teams, fighting for a top seed, can also waylay Oswego in the next 2 weeks. The oddsmakers don't give Cortland much hope as they have made the Lakers a solid 7 point favorite in this one. I'm picking the upset here because my Cardinals also need some help. Cortland 77 Oswego 74.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2019, 04:57:45 PM
Plattsburgh leads Fredonia at halftime 50-33

For the Cardinals Jon Patron with 13 points and 9 rebounds. Chris Middleton with 10 points and Nick DeAngelis with 8 points.

Colden George with 10 points for the Blue Devils. Isaiah Ice and Mark Morgan with 8 points each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2019, 05:07:35 PM
Oswego 35 Cortland 35 at the half.

Oneonta 48  Brockport 46 at the half.

Potsdam 31 Buffalo State 28 at halftime

Geneseo 49 New Paltz 36  10 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2019, 06:10:33 PM
Final Scores

Plattsburgh 87  Fredonia 70

Cortland 72  Oswego 67

Geneseo 62 New Paltz 58

Buffalo State 75 Potsdam 70 in overtime

Brockport 95  Oneonta  89       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2019, 06:27:40 PM
Here are the updated standings:


Oswego State           12-1   
Plattsburgh State   10-3   
Cortland State       9-4
Brockport State          8-5   
Potsdam State       7-6   
New Paltz State          6-7      
Oneonta State       5-8      
Buffalo State           4-9      
SUNY Geneseo           3-10   
Fredonia State           1-12
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 02, 2019, 07:30:11 PM

Actually the Cortland final was 72-67 ..........Oswego 35-33 at half

RDragons opened late 13 point margin and withstood Laker rally to within four
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 02, 2019, 09:06:13 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 02, 2019, 07:30:11 PM

Actually the Cortland final was 72-67 ..........Oswego 35-33 at half

RDragons opened late 13 point margin and withstood Laker rally to within four

The live stats I pulled up (from Sidearm) for the Cortland game were wrong on both counts, then, both at the half and the final score. Having problems lately with scores on some of those pages. Brockport game had live stats from 2 different services depending on whether you got the link from D3hoops scoreboard (Presto) or right off the Brockport website (Stretch), and they were both screwed up today.

I was just happy that Cortland was on the long end of that score. I was watching that game on and off while I was also watching the Cardinals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 03, 2019, 12:55:03 AM
Will post usual charts after Sunday due to changes  :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2019, 06:02:59 AM
Plattsburgh 87 Fredonia 70

I had Plattsburgh winning 89-67 so I was close on the total and also my prediction that they wouldn't win by 25. The Cardinal coaching staff had a lot to do with that one though as Plattsburgh broke on top quickly by jumping out to a 27-4 lead after 10 minutes of play. The 2nd and 3rd string players got early playing time today, as they saw action in both halves. Plattsburgh had a 24 point lead at 40-16 with 4:38 left in the half. The Blue Devils cut the lead to 17 at the break as they trailed 50-33.

Fredonia got as close as they would get when they opened the 2nd frame outscoring Plattsburgh by an 8-2 margin to cut the lead to 11 points at 52-41 but the Cardinals went back to their bread and butter guy Jon Patron, and he scored 12 points to open the lead back up to 17 at 67-50. Plattsburgh's Nick DeAngelis then scored inside with a layup and then drained one from downtown to make it 72-50 and the Cards coasted to the finish line.

Patron made his case for a 2nd straight Player of the Week award as he posted his 13th double-double of the season as he captured both scoring honors with 31 points and rebounding honors with 15 boards. He had 20 points and 15 boards on Tuesday at Potsdam. He had 3 other games this year where he scored double figures of 27, 23, and 16 points and had 9 rebounds in all 3 of those games or he would have 16 double-doubles. He will have one more game to impress the SUNYAC award committee as the Cardinals play Buffalo State on Sunday at 2:00 PM.

Adam Jaquish also had a double-double, the first one of his Plattsburgh State career as he tied his career high with 11 points and set a new career high with 12 rebounds.

Nick DeAngelis had 13 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Chris Middleton had 10 points and 6 rebounds.

Freshman Taylor Mason had 7 points and 7 rebounds.


Fredonia was led by Bediako Nyasa with 14 points as he was 3 for 6 from long distance.

De'Quan Smith had 13 points, 3 steals, 2 assists and a block.

Colden George had 10 points in 18 minutes off the bench.

Plattsburgh ups their record to 16-4 overall and 10-3 in the SUNYAC. They are in sole possession of 2nd place and will complete their weekend trip to Western New York when they take on Buffalo State on Super Bowl Sunday at 2:00 PM in the Queen City. This is the game originally scheduled for Friday evening.

Fredonia drops to 2-18 overall and 1-12 in the YAC as the rebuilding season continues. They will host Potsdam State later today also at 2:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2019, 07:27:13 AM
Cortland 72 Oswego 67

The Red Dragons avenged an earlier loss to the Lakers and in the process tightened up the race for the regular season title just a little. Oswego State still has a commanding 2 game lead over Plattsburgh and a 3 game lead over Cortland with just 5 games left to play, but four of Oswego's five remaining games are on the road. Plus the Lakers have to play 2nd place Plattsburgh, 4th place Brockport and 5th place Potsdam among those road games.

My crystal ball had Cortland winning this game 77-74 so I was fairly close to the actual score. Oswego had the early lead for the first 10 minutes keeping the Red Dragons at bay with layups by Tyler Pierre or Alan Durutovic. They also drained a few from long distance to keep the lead between 5 and 8 points. Still down 21-14 Cortland went on a mini run pf 12-2 fueled by 7 points from Nicky Bonura to take a 26-23 lead. It was the first lead change of the game and came with 7 minutes left in the period. Five more would follow before the first half ended as the Lakers managed to stay on top by a 35-33 score when the horn blew.

The 2nd half  opened with 5 ties and 4 lead changes over the first 6:15 of play. The Lakers were down 42-41 when they got a pair of  free throws from Brandan Gartland when he made 2 trips to the line and went 1 of 2 both times. The Red Dragons came up empty and once again Tyler Pierre scored inside. After Cortland scored with 2 free throws Pierre got loose again, this time for a dunk. Cortland missed on their end and Pierre piled on with another layup to give Oswego the lead at 49-44 with 12 minutes left.  Justin Cooper and Nicky Bonura then combined for 13 points (9 by Cooper) and Cortland surged in front by a 57-51 score. The Lakers got a 3 pointer from Liam Sanborn but Cortland answered with a layup from Kenny Charles. Oswego missed their next 5 shots and Cortland went 3 for 6 but 2 of those baskets were from long distance and the score was now 67-54 and time was getting short with just 4:00 left in the game. The Lakers got as close as 5 points on 2 occasions but Cortland went 5x7 from the line down the stretch to salt this one away.

Nicky Bonura led Cortland and captured scoring honors with 22 points and 4 rebounds.

Justin Cooper had 15 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

Kenny Charles had 15 points, 1 assist and a block.


Tyler Pierre was the high man for Oswego with 21 points and was the leading rebounder with 15 boards to get another double-double. He added 2 assists and 2 blocks.

Liam Sanborn had 14 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists.

Joe Sullivan had 11 points and 6 rebounds.

Quinn Carey had 9 points and 5 boards.

Cortland outshot the Lakers in all 3 areas by slight margins. Oswego had a sizable difference on the boards with the Lakers grabbing 41 rebounds to 27 for Cortland. Cortland only had 6 turnovers to 10 for Oswego.

Cortland remains in 3rd place with a 9-4 SUNYAC record. They are 15-5 overall. They will be back in action next Friday when they travel North for a rematch with Plattsburgh at 7:30 PM.

Oswego drops to 17-3 overall and 12-1 in the YAC. They will follow their travel partner North to take on Potsdam on Friday night at 7:30 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2019, 08:16:30 AM
Geneseo 62 New Paltz 58

Another close game that came down to the wire. I had the Knights winning this game by 4 points, 75-71. My totals were a little high but the MOV was right on the money.

It took the Knights a long time time to get a lead in this game as the Hawks came out of the gate and jumped in front from the opening whistle. They led throughout the entire first half by as many as 9 points on several occasions and went into halftime up 32-27

Geneseo still trailed for the first 5 minutes of the 2nd stanza but after 25 minutes of being the trailer they finally got a lead, when a 7-0 burst put them in front 36-33, with 15 minutes left to play. Another 10-3 run gave them a 46-36 lead and they never let New Paltz get in front again. The Hawks put steady pressure on the Knights as they cut the lead to 2 points several times but couldn't come up with the equalizer when it counted. The Knights were also very good from the line when they needed to be, as they hit 9 of 10 foul shots down the stretch.

The Knights' Terrance Nichols led all scorers with 23 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist. 
Alex Merhige had a double-double of 13 points and 10 rebounds.
Zack Panebianco had 10 points and 2 assists.

The Hawks got 12 points from Tristan Wissemann, who also had 5 rebounds.
Cory Garcia had 11 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.
Jake Passaretti had 10 points and 3 assists
Scott Reisert had 9 rebounds, 7 points, 3 blocks, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Geneseo improves to 6-14 overall and 3-10 in the YAC. They will travel to Buffalo State on Tuesday to face the Bengals at 7:30 PM.

New Paltz falls to 11-9 overall and 6-7 in the SUNYAC They remain in the 6th and final playoff spot as Oneonta failed to gain any ground with their loss to Brockport on Saturday.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2019, 02:07:41 PM
Feb. 3   Two games on tap today

Potsdam State  @  Fredonia State                2:00 PM[/b]

No one should have to play a game on Super Bowl Sunday. It 's not all that bad for the home teams but it sucks for the guys that have to get on the bus and travel back home for 6 hours. It will really be bad if they have to do that with a loss as well.

Potsdam is holding down the 5th playoff spot and would like to move up the ladder. They would love to have a home playoff game for their fans who haven't experienced a playoff game of any kind for a long time. The oddsmakers have made them a 15 point favorite in this game which seems like a lot for a team that only won the previous matchup in Potsdam by 3 points. I think the Bears will win this game but only by a score of 78-68.



Plattsburgh State  @  Buffalo State        2:00 PM

The Cardinals need to be mindful of the fact that this Buffalo State is not really a team with a 6-13 record. If they don't bring their A game today they could hand Oswego the regular season crown. The Bengals have made today's game their Super Bowl because the Cardinals are the defending champs. It will ease the pain of a disappointing season. And there's always the outside chance they could still make the playoffs, but it will most likely mean they have to run the table. The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 7 point favorite. Plattsburgh could only win by a last second 2 pointer in Plattsburgh last month, but I think the Cardinals win this one 91-85.        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2019, 02:58:43 PM
Plattsburgh leads Buffalo State 47-32 at the half.

Jon Patron has 16 points and 7 rebound for the Cardinals. Chris Middleton has 11 points and 5 rebounds.Taylor Mason has 5 points and 3 rebounds.

Sheldon Adams has 12 points and 2 boards.  Jordan Christopher has 8 points and 7 rebounds. Ryniek Holloway has 5 points, 4 assists and 2 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2019, 03:09:08 PM
Potsdam leads Fredonia 33-29 at the break.

Danny Delsol-Lowry with 8 points and 6 rebounds for the Bears    Serigne Kane with 6 points.

Isaiah Ice and  De'Quan Smith with 5 points each to lead the Blue Devils.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 03, 2019, 03:43:30 PM
Final Scores:

Plattsburgh State 91 Buffalo State 77

Potsdam State 75 Fredonia State 66
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 03, 2019, 08:42:28 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 03, 2019, 09:48:33 PM
Thanks AllStar.  Wow NP & Oneonta have 4 of 5 left at home.  wow. 

As Han Solo said in Star Wars, "This is gonna be close".


-dtb-
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2019, 03:03:30 AM
Plattsburgh's Jon Patron was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the 2nd week in a row. It was the 3rd time he has won the award this season. Jon also set the new standard for career points by a Cardinal as he broke two time All American Anthony Williams' 11 year old record of 1734 points in the Cardinals win at Potsdam last Tuesday. I'm hopeful he may be named to the D3hoops Team of the Week when it's released.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:


"CORTLAND, N.Y. - After a stellar performance last week, Plattsburgh senior Jonathan Patron (Huntington, N.Y.) earns the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week for the second week in a row.

Patron averaged 30.7 points per game, 13.3 rebounds per game, and shot 53.8% in field goals as the Cardinals went 3-0 on the road against Potsdam, Fredonia, and Buffalo State. On Tuesday, Patron had a double-double with 20 points and 15 rebounds in their 77-75 overtime victory against Potsdam. He recorded another double-double on Friday netting 31 points and grabbing 15 rebounds in Plattsburgh's 87-70 win over Fredonia. To cap off the week, Patron matched his career-high of 41 points and had 10 rebounds for his 14th double-double of the season during the team's 91-77 triumph over Buffalo State."

During Plattsburgh's win on Tuesday over Potsdam, Jonathan Patron broke the program's career points record that was held by Anthony Williams (2004-2008). Patron had 1728 points coming in to the game and his 20 point game put him over the previous record of 1734. The Plattsburgh senior continues to lead the SUNYAC in points and rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2019, 04:07:57 AM
The week #9  D3hoops Top 25 poll was released Monday night and Plattsburgh State has re-entered the poll as they check in at #23 with 46 points. Last week they were just outside the Top 25 at #27 in the "Others Receiving Votes" category with 29 points. The Cardinals are on a current 5 game winning streak and this weekend will face 2 of the 3 conference rivals that they lost to on the road 3 weeks ago, Cortland State and Oswego State.

Oswego State was also just outside the Top 25 last week in the #26 spot in the ORV category with 47 points. They suffered their first loss in the conference to Cortland and are now in the 28th spot in the ORV category with 26 points. Their loss was Plattsburgh's gain, I guess.

Rochester also in the ORV category at #27 with 36 points. Last week they were #28 with 21 points.

No other East Region team is listed.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2019, 05:02:25 AM
Jon Patron was named to the D3hoops Team of the Week for the outstanding week he had in the Cardinals' 3-0 week they just finished. It marked the 2nd time this season that Jon garnered the D3hoops weekly award and he did so with even better stats then he had the first time that he won the award for week #3 in early December. He averaged 27 ppg and 13 rpg while shooting 52% from the field in week 3. This past week he averaged 31 ppg and 13 rpg while shooting 54% from the field.

It also marked the 3rd time a Plattsburgh State player got the D3hoops award this season as Brandon Johnson made the TOTW in week #1 back on November 19th 


Here's the write up from the D3 hoops website and the link to the complete TOTW:

https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2018-19/week11


Jonathan Patron
Patron averaged 31 points per game, 13 rebounds per game, and shot 54% from the field in the Plattsburgh State men's basketball 3-0 road game sweep this past week. On Tuesday, Patron had 20 points and 15 rebounds in their 77-75 overtime win over Potsdam. On Saturday, Patron recorded 31 points and 15 rebounds in the Cardinals 87-70 victory over Fredonia. On Sunday, Patron matched his career high of 41 points and had 10 rebounds for his 14th double-double of the season in their 91-77 triumph over Buffalo State.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2019, 06:37:06 AM
Feb. 5   Two games scheduled for today

Geneseo State  @  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The Knights got mauled on their home court by the Bengals just 1 week ago. It looks like they could be in for more of the same. The Bengals need to run the table if they have any hope of grabbing the final playoff spot. Geneseo, is still not eliminated from the playoffs, and would also need to win their remaining games, but their path is much tougher with games against Cortland, Oswego and 2 more against Brockport. They are basically playing for pride at this point and to gain experience for next year. The oddsmaker have made Buffalo State 8 point home favorites in this one. I think the Bengals win it 86-74.



Brockport State  @  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

Brockport needs to take care of business here to keep alive their hopes of a home playoff game. A first round bye is still possible but they would need a lot of things to break in their favor. I don't see that happening. Third or fourth seed is where they should end up but they could lose that position with a loss today or in the next 2 games. The Blue Devils, like Geneseo, are also playing for next year as they have been eliminated from the playoffs, but they would love to be a spoiler and take down one of the upper level teams. It would make their season.  The point spread has Brockport favored by 17 points. They won at home a week ago against the Blue Devils by 57. I don't think it will be a repeat of that proportion but it won't be pretty. Brockport 94 Fredonia 62.        
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 05, 2019, 04:19:53 PM
It's coming down to the wire.
Looks like 4 teams trying to get the final 2 playoff spots.
As always the SUNYAC never disappoints.
The best D3 conference in the country.
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 05, 2019, 08:30:11 PM
I think it's more like 5 or 6 teams shooting for the 3-6 seeds. 

Cortland has a tough remaining schedule, @Plattsburgh, @Potsdam, New Paltz, @Genny, @'port, all but Genny still in the mix.

'port has the easiest remaining schedule, with Freddy and Genny twice, but then end up with Oswego and Cortland

Buff State is one loss away from elimination, and losing to Genny at the half tonight.

New Paltz and Oneonta have favorable remaining schedules, - bottom dwelling Buff State and Fredonia, but also tough & hungry opponents Potsdam, Plattsburgh, & @ Oswego [ONE]/@Cortland [NP]on what looks like senior night for Oswego and Cortland.

Potsdam and Plattsburgh host Oswego and Cortland on senior weekend, and then trek to the Catskills to close out the season.  All those games have meaning for seeds.

No easy out for the Lakers either, as they have 4 of their last 5 on the road, and 4 of 5 against teams fighting for playoff spots.

Going down to the wire. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2019, 09:09:25 PM
Buffalo State 81 Geneseo State 73   Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 05, 2019, 09:20:41 PM
Brockport defeats Fredonia by a final score of 90-61.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2019, 04:15:48 PM
Here are the first rankings for the men this season: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2019, 03:31:14 AM
First Regional Rankings were released. No real surprises here. The top 4 YAC teams grabbed half the spots.


Teams' records vs. Division III opponents are listed first, followed by overall record.

East Region       
1   Oswego State              17-3   17-3
2   Plattsburgh State      17-4   17-4
3   Rochester                      16-4   16-4
4   Nazareth                      16-4   16-5
5   St. Lawrence              14-6   14-6
6   Brockport                      12-8   12-8
7   Cortland                      15-4   15-5
8   Hobart                      13-8   13-8
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2019, 04:01:36 AM
Feb. 8         Four big games on tap for tonight with 7 of these teams fighting for a playoff spot or to get a better seed    

Buffalo State  @  New Paltz State                7:30 PM

The Bengals have 5 wins but only have 3 games left to play. They need to win at least 2 of those remaining games but most likely all 3 to have a shot at the playoffs. The Hawks occupy the 6th and final playoff spot and lead Oneonta by 2 games because of the tiebreaker. They have 6 wins with 5 games left to play and 4 of those games are in the Hawk Center. The Hawks obviously hold the upper hand but things can go south in a hurry, especially in the YAC. A Bengal win here and New Paltz losses in their final 3 games against teams that are in front of them(Cortland, Potsdam, Plattsburgh) could boost Buff States chances and might give them the tiebreaker against the Hawks. And of course Oneonta may have something to say about all of this.

The oddsmakers have an odd spread on this game, considering the Hawks won in Buffalo. I would have thought that New Paltz, being the home team, would be a slight favorite but they have made the Bengals a road favorite by 3 points. Maybe they feel like I do and that the playoff race needs to get tightened up.....or maybe they just looked into my crystal ball, because I have the Bengals winning this one by a 77-74 final score.     


   
Fredonia State  @  Oneonta State             7:30 PM

Not much to say about this one. Oneonta is on life support and cannot afford to falter here. They have the same schedule left as the Hawks and they have a lot of ground to make up and not much time to do it. Personally I don't think they can, but I sure hope they do. Fredonia wil try and gain experience and play for an upset to get something positive for the team. They lost the first game against Oneonta back in January by 43 points. They are listed as 18 point underdogs in this one. I think Oneonta wins this one 89-67. 



Oswego State  @   Potsdam State                    7:30     Co-Featured Game of the Day

The Bears gave the Lakers a scare the last time they met in Oswego losing by a 72-70 score. The game was a 7 point Laker lead  with 30 seconds to play so it wasn't as close as it looked. Potsdam got a bucket, the Lakers missed a few from the line and the Bears got a 3 pointer with a couple of ticks left to close the gap. But the Bears proved they could play with the best the YAC had to offer with this game. Then there were two last second losses to defending champ, Plattsburgh (1 in overtime) and wins over Cortland and Brockport. So a win over the Lakers is not out of the question. Oswego can't overlook the Bears or be thinking about that big game tomorrow against the Cardinals or they'll come out of Jerry Welsh Gym without a W. I, of course, am hoping that's exactly what happens. The Lakers 8 game winning streak is history but they don't want to start a different streak. Their other 2 losses were back to back...can history repeat itself?  Here's hoping!!  The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a solid 6 point favorite in this one, though and I would have to agree. So I'm rooting for my Alma Mater to help out my Cardinals but think the final score will be something like Oswego 75 Potsdam 71 



Cortland State  @  #23 Plattsburgh State     7:30 PM   Co-Featured Game of the Day

Red Dragons vs the Redbirds: Round 2. The Cardinals would like a do over for the game in Cortland back on January 19th when Cortland scored to go up 65-63 with 20 seconds left and Plattsburgh couldn't get the equalizer or game winner like they did a year ago down there. Now the Cardinals have a chance at some payback and be in great shape to secure a first round bye. Cortland coming off a big win at Oswego and looking for more. They still want that regular season title or at least a first round bye. This game will tell the story in all likelihood. Plattsburgh leads this series 7-4 in the last 11 games and are favored in tonight's game by a 5 point margin. I like the Cardinals here. They are undefeated at home this year with a 9-0 record and have won 25 in a row at Memorial Hall since an opening season loss last year to Keene State. I think they keep that streak alive. This one will have more offense than that game last month in Cortland.  Plattsburgh 88 Cortland 79.     

          
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
Feb. 9         All ten teams in action this afternoon with some big games on tap   

Brockport State  @  Geneseo State               4:00 PM

The Golden Eagles get to play their travel partners in back to back games, today at the Knights and Tuesday back in Brockport. They would love to see a few teams above them lose on Friday and Saturday. They finish the season against Oswego and Cortland in the friendly confines of Tuttle North and they would love to have their destiny in their hands for that weekend. They can't overlook Geneseo though as they want to close out this season with a few wins to build a foundation for next season. Oddsmakers have Port listed as a 10 point favorite. I think they win by more than that. Brockport 81 Geneseo 68.   
   
Cortland State  @  Potsdam State               4:00 PM

The Bears won a big one last month at Cortland and they did it by leading the Red Dragons for the final 28 minutes of the game. That was a big step for a team that had been down for such a long time. That seemed to trigger something in the team that has led them to challenge for a home playoff game. Cortland lost last night to Plattsburgh and won't want to lose again tonight or to the Bears for a 2nd time. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a road favorite by 4 points in this one. I tend to agree. Cortland 80 Potsdam 75.   

Buffalo State  @  Oneonta State               4:00 PM

The Bengals dug a hole they couldn't climb out of last night against the Hawks. It eliminated them from the conference tournament. Oneonta is still alive but on life support. They finish with 3 tough games against the league leaders and are still 2 games behind New Paltz because of the tiebreaker. The point spread favors Oneonta by 3 points. I think they win by a few more. Oneonta 83 Buff State 76.      


Fredonia State  @  New Paltz State               4:00 PM

The Hawks can get their 8th conference win if they get the W in this game. That might be enough to put them in the playoffs. Fredonia still trying to play the spoiler role. Hawks are favored by 14 points. I think they win 77-60.

Oswego State  @  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM         Featured Game of the Day

The Lakers can put a stranglehold on the top seed with a win today over the Cardinals. It will give them a 3 game lead with 3 to play and since they would own the tiebreaker over Plattsburgh, they will clinch the regular season crown with a victory. The Cardinals hope they can prevent that from happening. Both teams coming off wins last night that put daylight between them and the rest of the league. Plattsburgh still hoping for the top seed, but needs to secure a first round bye, with Cortland and Brockport still in the mix for that as well. The oddsmakers see this game as a tight one, making the Cardinals a slim 1 point favorite. I expect another battle as well.  Plattsburgh wins this one to avenge their earlier loss in Oswego. Final score Plattsburgh 78 Oswego 74.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 09, 2019, 11:26:15 PM
Good weekend for your guys, magicman!
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2019, 05:02:12 AM
Yes it was AllStar but it may still be too little, too late, to catch the Lakers. I think they win the tiebreaker(which may come down to best road record) should we end up with identical records. Pretty sure the road to the conference title will go though Laker Hall on the shores of Lake Ontario....I may have to take a road trip. :(   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 10, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
Still games to play. 

Oswego Home vs. Oneonta - road vs. Brockport & Geneseo

Plattsburgh - road vs. Oneonta & NP both in playoff hunt

Cortland - Home vs. NP [in the hunt] away at Brockport & Oneonta

Brockport - Geneseo, Oswego, Cortland all at Home

New Paltz - at Cortland, Home vs. Potsdam & Plattsburgh

Potsdam - at New Paltz and Oneonta

Oneonta at Oswego, Home vs. Plattsburgh and Potsdam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 11, 2019, 05:10:43 PM
Tough weekend for my BENGALS.  Not the finish that we had hoped for but the future looks bright.  Hoping that they go out Saturday vs Fredonia on a positive note and can build upon this for next season when everyone returns.  Gonna cheer on our girls team since they still have a chance of getting in.

Love these guys. This just wasn't their year. Still see multiple bids going to the dance especially of Plattsburgh nor Oswego win it outright!

Go Yac

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2019, 02:06:18 AM
D3hoops has posted their latest Top 25 poll for Week #10 and Plattsburgh State has moved up 2 places in the rankings to #21. Their point total increased from 46 to 144. Plattsburgh is now 19-4 with 2 regular season games left. They are currently on a 7 game winning streak and a 27 home game winning streak going back to November 28th, 2018. 


Rochester moved back into the polls this week at #22 with 89 points. Last week they were in the Others Receiving Votes category at #28 with 21 points. They are currently 18-4.


Oswego State is still getting points but dropped from #28 in the ORV category to #36 with only 6 points. They had 26 points last week. They have had 2 straight weeks with a 1-1 record since they were #26 two weeks ago and on the verge of moving into the Top 25.

No other team from the East Region is receiving votes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2019, 02:08:34 AM
The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending February 10th has been awarded to Geneseo junior guard, Terrance Nichols. He had a big game Tuesday in a loss at Buffalo State but then came back in the Knights' only weekend game to hit the game tying basket and winning free throw against Brockport State.       Congratulations to Terrance.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website with a slight correction.

"Feb 11, 2019
CORTLAND, N.Y. - Junior guard Terrance Nichols (New York Mills, N.Y.) earns the State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week honor after his two performances this past weekend.

The Geneseo Knights fell to Buffalo State on Friday Tuesday 81-73, however Nichols was still able to put up 23 points, five rebounds, and four assists. On Saturday, Nichols' clutch performance for Geneseo was able to propel the team over Brockport 77-76 in a thrilling last second victory. Terrance Nichols had 25 points including the game-tying three-pointer with 12 seconds to go and the game-winning free throw with one second left on the game clock. He went 9-19 from three over the weekend while shooting 53.3 percent overall.

Nichols and the Knights travel to Brockport this Tuesday (2/12). Tip-off is at 7:30 p.m."
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2019, 06:13:36 AM
Feb. 12  Three games tonight before the final weekend of action. Note the different starting times because of weather.   

Oneonta State  @  Oswego State        5:00 PM

The Lakers are coming off a loss to Plattsburgh but still hold onto #1 seed and unless they lose two of their last three games will keep
the top spot. Oneonta's playoff chances are on life support and they could use an upset of the Lakers to give them a fighting chance. They have both New Paltz and Potsdam squarely in their sights and hope to overtake one of those teams for the final playoff spot. The Red Dragons have won 4 of their last 5 conference games and seem to be finding their best form but it may be too late. The oddsmakers have made Oswego an 8 point home favorite in this one. The Lakers are 8-3 against Oneonta over the last 5 years but the last time the Red Dragons won in Laker Hall was over 9 years ago on January 12th, 2010. I'd love to see it happen tonight but think the Lakers win this one 75-69.   

New Paltz State  @  Cortland State        6:00 PM

The Hawks could clinch a playoff spot tonight if they win and Oneonta loses. If they lose it may come down to their game against Potsdam on Friday night, since they both have 8 wins and will be underdogs against tough teams in their remaining game. Cortland  wants to clinch a home playoff game at this point and a win tonight will do that. They are listed as 9 point favorites in this game but I think they win it by a few more. Cortland 88 New Paltz 72. 


Geneseo State  @  Brockport State        7:30 PM

Geneseo will feel the pain. That's what upsetting a team you have to play again in 3 days will do. However the Knights have had their success at Brockport, winning there several times in the last 4 years. And that come from behind win the other night may give them confidence that they can have a deja vu moment. The oddsmakers don't think so and have the Golden Eagles favored by 12 points. They are looking to clinch a playoff spot and a home playoff game tonight. A win could put them in the playoffs and coupled with a New Paltz loss would give them a home playoff game. I think Brockport gets it done, winning by a final score of 82-72, and getting  that home playoff game.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 12, 2019, 03:03:16 PM
Oneonta-Oswego postponed until tomorrow

New Paltz-Cortland and Geneseo-Brockport still on for tonight
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2019, 04:57:11 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 12, 2019, 03:03:16 PM
Oneonta-Oswego postponed until tomorrow

New Paltz-Cortland and Geneseo-Brockport still on for tonight

I had a feeling that Oswego game was going to be a casualty of the weather.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 12, 2019, 07:47:44 PM
New Paltz knocks off Cortland, that makes 3 in a row and 7 of the last 9 for the Hawks. Keith Kenney for Coach of the Year?

Big win to have in their back pocket with Potsdam and especially Plattsburgh coming up this weekend.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2019, 09:18:23 PM
Final scores of tonight's games.

New Paltz 67 Cortland 61

Brockport 88 Geneseo 67
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2019, 11:44:35 PM
New Paltz 67 Cortland 61

The Hawks led this game from start to finish except for one possession when the Red Dragons scored to go up 6-5. Tristan Wissemann buried a 3 pointer 15 seconds later to make it 8-6 and the Hawks seized control of this game shortly after. Up 17-16 with 8:22 left to play, New Paltz went on a 15-1 run over the next 3 minutes and 27 seconds, to extend their lead to 15 points. Cortland never got closer than 4 points the rest of the game and that came with 9 seconds left to play. The Hawks led by a dozen at the half, 39-27 and maintained an 8 to 12 point lead for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd period. Cortland chipped away and finally got it within 2 possessions at 46-40 with 9:50 to play, but every time they got with 5 or 6 points the Hawks had an answer and kept the Red Dragons from inching closer. The lead was 65-58 when Cortland got a hoop and harm with 9 seconds left in the game to make it 65-61. It was too little, too late. The immediately fouled on the inbounds and the Hawks Isaiah Bien-Aise made both free throws to close out the game.

Cortland didn't shoot well especially from 3 point range where they were only 4 for 20 (20%). By comparison the Hawks went 9x26 from deep (34.6%) and that's the main reason they came out on top. The Hawks also shared the ball well with 14 assists to 7 for Cortland. New Paltz had 44 rebounds to 32 for Cortland. The Red Dragons only had 11 turnovers to 14 for New Paltz. Cortland was missing 6'9"senior forward/center, Zach Lydon which didn't help their rebounding effort.

Tristan Wissemann had 19 points to lead the Hawks. He also had 6 rebounds and was 3x5 from long range.
Isaiah Bien-Aise had 18 points, 7 rebounds, 3 steals, a block and 1 assist. He was 3x4 from behind the arc.
Scott Reisert led the Hawks with 9 rebounds and added 6 points, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.
Cory Garcia had a game high 7 assists, 9 points and 4 rebounds.
Paddy Parr had 8 rebounds, 4 points and 1 assist.

Justin Cooper was Cortland's main weapon tonight as he captured both scoring honors with 24 points and rebounding honors with 13 boards to complete his double-double. He was 10x14 from the field and 4x4 from the line. He added 2 steals, a block and a helper.
Nicky Bonura had 12 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block.
Brendan Fitzpatrick had 7 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals, an assist and a block.

New Paltz took a giant step toward the SUNYAC playoffs with the win tonight. They could lose their final 2 games this weekend and still get the final playoff spot unless Oneonta wins their final 3 games.

The Hawks improve to 14-9 overall and 9-7 in the SUNYAC. They will host Potsdam on Friday and can sew up the 5th seed with a win and still have an outside chance at gaining the 4th seed and hosting a playoff game if everything falls just right for them. That's a long shot though.

Cortland drops to 16-7 overall and 10-6 in the YAC. They travel to Geneseo for a Friday night game but the 3rd seed will most likely come down to the winner of the Cortland-Brockport game in Brockport on Saturday afternoon.   
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 03:22:43 PM
The second week Regional Rankings have been released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 13, 2019, 03:45:48 PM
Interesting that Rochester jumped Plattsburgh in this week's rankings.  They beat a pair of 14-8 teams (Chicago and Washington U).  I'm still learning the intricacies of the basketball NCAA process.  What's the explanation for Rochester's jump over the Cardinals?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 04:16:13 PM
The biggest reason ... Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents (vRRO). That data, which is in the primary criteria, isn't available in the first week since there are no Regional Rankings for it to be based on. Now there is vRRO data from Week 1. Thus ... that data set now becomes part of the conversation and Rochester has a significant advantage of Plattsburgh in that department (off the top of my head).

And it is results ... they don't just see a team has won more games, they look at what those results are and who they were against (high in the rankings, middle of the rankings, bottom, etc.).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2019, 07:29:47 PM
Oneonta defeats Oswego by a final score 0f 70-55.   Thank you Red Dragons!    Go Brockport!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 13, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 04:16:13 PM
The biggest reason ... Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents (vRRO). That data, which is in the primary criteria, isn't available in the first week since there are no Regional Rankings for it to be based on. Now there is vRRO data from Week 1. Thus ... that data set now becomes part of the conversation and Rochester has a significant advantage of Plattsburgh in that department (off the top of my head).

And it is results ... they don't just see a team has won more games, they look at what those results are and who they were against (high in the rankings, middle of the rankings, bottom, etc.).

Yes but University of Rochester has played most of their schedule against UAA teams out of region, 

Of their 8 games in region, 4 were at home, 3 road games in the Rochester area [5 or 6 miles]. 

Their true in region loss was to a middle of the pack Ithaca [13-10] team, 

They did not play Oswego which is 75 miles from Rochester, but did play Ithaca which is 91 miles. 

Really think that the UAA needs to be it's own region with an auto bid, and everyone else goes into Pool B.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 13, 2019, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 13, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 13, 2019, 04:16:13 PM
The biggest reason ... Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents (vRRO). That data, which is in the primary criteria, isn't available in the first week since there are no Regional Rankings for it to be based on. Now there is vRRO data from Week 1. Thus ... that data set now becomes part of the conversation and Rochester has a significant advantage of Plattsburgh in that department (off the top of my head).

And it is results ... they don't just see a team has won more games, they look at what those results are and who they were against (high in the rankings, middle of the rankings, bottom, etc.).

Yes but University of Rochester has played most of their schedule against UAA teams out of region, 

Of their 8 games in region, 4 were at home, 3 road games in the Rochester area [5 or 6 miles]. 

Their true in region loss was to a middle of the pack Ithaca [13-10] team, 

They did not play Oswego which is 75 miles from Rochester, but did play Ithaca which is 91 miles. 

Really think that the UAA needs to be it's own region with an auto bid, and everyone else goes into Pool B.

Conference games count as in-region, even if the conference opponent is out of region.  Also, every d3 game counts as in-region, so long as 70% of a team's games are played against regional or conference opponents.  Almost every game counts these days.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 13, 2019, 08:35:08 PM
Exactly my point, not a level playing field, U of R games against opponents no one else in the region gets to play still count.

:-(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 14, 2019, 12:33:09 AM
The tiebreakers are very fluid right now...a lot to be decided.
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2019, 03:22:49 AM
So when the first set of regional rankings is released Plattsburgh State is #2 in the East. Two days later they play the 7th ranked team in the region, 15-5 Cortland State and win that game. The next day they play the #1 team in the region 18-3 Oswego State and beat them. So when the next set of regional rankings is released, where are they ranked?.....#1 right?.....Nope #2.  Another team that was #3 jumped over them and went into the top spot. That team, Rochester, also won 2 games. They beat a 13-7 Chicago team that was ranked #8 in the Central region. Two days later they beat an unranked 14-7 Washington U team also from the Central region.   

So lets review this one more time. You are #2....you beat #7 and #1 on consecutive days and you don't move into the #1 spot. Instead #3 who beats a #8 and after a day off beats a team that's unranked, jumps the #2 team and gets the top spot. I wonder when was the last time that happened and where?  ???

I know all about the Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents and I know about the SOS stuff but it just doesn't seem right when things like this occur. 

That's all I'm going to say about that. I'm not even going to say that I smell a....sniff...sniff....sniffff....rat. :o       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 14, 2019, 06:31:32 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 14, 2019, 03:22:49 AM
So when the first set of regional rankings is released Plattsburgh State is #2 in the East. Two days later they play the 7th ranked team in the region, 15-5 Cortland State and win that game. The next day they play the #1 team in the region 18-3 Oswego State and beat them. So when the next set of regional rankings is released, where are they ranked?.....#1 right?.....Nope #2.  Another team that was #3 jumped over them and went into the top spot. That team, Rochester, also won 2 games. They beat a 13-7 Chicago team that was ranked #8 in the Central region. Two days later they beat an unranked 14-7 Washington U team also from the Central region.   

So lets review this one more time. You are #2....you beat #7 and #1 on consecutive days and you don't move into the #1 spot. Instead #3 who beats a #8 and after a day off beats a team that's unranked, jumps the #2 team and gets the top spot. I wonder when was the last time that happened and where?  ???

I know all about the Results versus Regionally Ranked Opponents and I know about the SOS stuff but it just doesn't seem right when things like this occur. 

That's all I'm going to say about that. I'm not even going to say that I smell a....sniff...sniff....sniffff....rat. :o     

You're adding a whole extra criteria to the mix.  It's not really a comparable ranking to last week.  The resumes are quite similar, but it seems Rochester was ahead for them, because I think Plattsburgh would win the secondary criteria, if it had gotten that far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 15, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
Should be a very interesting weekend in the SUNYAC
It all comes down to the last weekend for a few teams.
Can the Red Dragons of Oneonta get it done tonight in Dewar Arena and knock off Magicman's Cardinals?
Just when we all thought Oswego was hands down the regular season champs they have hit a little bump in the road.
They have a tough one tonight against Brockport.
Potsdam against New Paltz, who would have ever thought these 2 teams would be in playoff contention a few years ago.
Those 2 coaches should win CO Coaches of the year.
The SUNYAC never disappoints.
Enjoy the MADNESS

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2019, 06:42:36 PM
Feb. 15    The Last Weekend
       
Eight teams hitting the hardwood tonight. Seven of them with hopes of upward mobility. Lots of factors in play from the top seed to the last seed. Seven teams fighting for six spots. Who will be the odd man out? Who will host the final four? Who will host a first round playoff game. Some of those questions could be answered by 9:30 tonight. Others may have to wait until 6:00 PM tomorrow. So, here we go with some quick picks.    


Cortland State  @  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

Geneseo only won 4 conference games this season but all 4 wins were at home and they beat 3 teams that could be playoff bound including Brockport. So it's no stretch to say that they could come up roses in this game. Especially the day after Valentine's Day. A win here would help make the season for this young team. Cortland needs to win if they have any desires to be the 3 seed as opposed to the 4th seed. I'm not sure if it matters. Also the possibility that New Paltz could slip ahead of these Red Dragons and get a home playoff game making Cortland hit the road for Round 1.

The oddsmakers have made Cortland a solid 10 point favorite in this one. They won the first matchup by 9 points back in early December. This one could be a little closer. Cortland 77 Geneseo 69. 


Oswego State  @  Brockport State        7:30 PM   Featured Game of the Night

Oswego needs to right a ship that's listing more than a little  in their last 4 games. The Lakers only have 5 losses all year but 3 of them have come in the past 13 days and they could lose their 3rd straight game tonight. They beat 4 of the other top teams in the YAC in their first go around but have lost to 3 of those teams on the flip side. Brockport is the remaining team and the Golden Eagles would also like to clinch a first round bye. A win here would do that. Oswego won at home by 10 points in early December and the Lakers are favored by 3 points in this one. I'm rooting for the Golden Eagles, hopeful that my Cardinals can possibly host the playoffs next weekend. Brockport 75 Oswego 72.       


Potsdam State  @  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Bears have come a long way this year and deserve to make the playoffs. The Hawks have come a long way this year and deserve to make the playoffs. I echo All-Time's post about co-COTY and can think of some good reasons why 5 coaches deserve Coach of the Year honors, this season, in the YAC, but Coach Bechtel and Coach Kenney are at the top of that list with the turnarounds the Bears and Hawks have made. I hate to see either of these teams miss out on the playoffs, but Oneonta won't go away quietly in the night.

The oddsmakers have made the Bears a slim 1 point road favorite in this one and I'm puzzled as to why. The Bears won at home by a 73-71 margin. That doesn't give me a lot of hope they can repeat on the road. The Bears are only 2-5 in road conference games although they did win one of those games at Cortland. The Hawks can clinch a playoff spot with a win, regardless of what happens elsewhere. Potsdam can't clinch because of the game they have with Oneonta tomorrow. They wouldn't mind a little help from the Cardinals tonight, though. If all three teams...New Paltz, Potsdam and Oneonta end up in a 3-way tie at 9-9, which is a distinct possibility, Oneonta is the loser because they would only be 1-3 against the other two teams. Potsdam would be 2-2 and New Paltz would be 2-2. Oneonta and New Paltz can both go 2-0 this weekend and both clinch. Potsdam can go 2-0 and clinch along with New Paltz. Got all that?...good. I think the Hawks win this one 73-70 but I sure hope I'm wrong about that.       



Plattsburgh State  @  Oneonta State    7:30 PM

The Cardinals still have hopes of hosting the final four of the SUNYAC Tournament. What didn't seem possible 2 weeks ago when they were 3 games and a tiebreaker (best road record) behind Oswego has now turned into a "down to the wire" contest. Plattsburgh has to win out and hope the Lakers suffer another loss. There will be quite a contingent in Plattsburgh rooting very hard for the Brockport Golden Eagles to help them out tonight against Oswego.

Oneonta needs to win out to secure a playoff game or hope that Potsdam loses both their games this weekend. The Red Dragons can take care of part of that 0-2 Bears weekend by beating Potsdam tomorrow but a win tonight will be a big step in the right direction.

Plattsburgh has won the last 8 games against the Red Dragons and is 10-1 in the last 5 and a half seasons. They won the earlier game in Plattsburgh 84-69. They are favored by 5 points in tonight's game. I think they win by a few more than that.   
Plattsburgh 85 Oneonta 76   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2019, 08:24:06 PM
Oneonta 44 Plattsburgh 38 at the half.

Red Dragons get three 3 pointers in 61 seconds to go from 3 points down to up 6 at the break.

Oneonta is led by Kevin Mackin with 14 points. 4x10 from 3 point land.
Andres Rivera with 9 points and 4 rebounds.
Carson Jacobs with 6 points and 5 rebounds.


Jon Patron with 10 points and 5 boards to lead the Cardinals
Chris Middleton with 9 points and 3 rebounds.
Travis Cox with 6 points and 4 rebounds.
Ian Howard with 5 points and 5 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2019, 08:28:02 PM
Other scores.

Oswego leads brockport 50-36 with 19 minutes to play in the game.

Geneseo leads Cortland 44-31 with 14 minutes to play in the game.

Potsdam leads New Paltz 33-32 with 14:45 left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2019, 09:19:49 PM
Final scores on a crazy day.

Oneonta 80 Plattsburgh 62

Oswego 85 Brockport 65

Potsdam 59 New Paltz 55

Geneseo 64 Cortland 49
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 15, 2019, 09:55:59 PM
Oswego will be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament, Plattsburgh No. 2, and then it's anyone's guess.
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 15, 2019, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 15, 2019, 09:19:49 PM
Final scores on a crazy day.

Oneonta 80 Plattsburgh 62

Oswego 85 Brockport 65

Potsdam 59 New Paltz 55

Geneseo 64 Cortland 49

So Geneseo splits with both Brockport and Cortland? and Oneonta manhandles the top two teams in the YAC?
Crazy!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 16, 2019, 12:00:07 AM
Looks like an interesting night in Oneonta with 4 techs by Plattsburgh; I'll let magic fill us in on the details.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 16, 2019, 12:00:07 AM
Looks like an interesting night in Oneonta with 4 techs by Plattsburgh; I'll let magic fill us in on the details.

ronk,
I don't know why all the technicals occurred. I was watching the game and saw a little scuffle break out between two players, one from each team. I have no idea why there were 4 technicals called on 3 different players. There wasn't much time left 1:27 and Plattsburgh was down 10 points and not likely to win anyway. The refs for this game were terrible, missing calls all over the place and calling ticky tack fouls and not calling obvious fouls. There were bad calls on both sides and Oneonta probably got the worst of it. Their big man, Joe Bull, had 3 fouls called on him in the first 7 minutes of the game and only played 19 minutes, he normally plays 35 to 40 minutes in a close game.

One thing I've never seen before was a player (Oneonta's Kevin Mackin) standing at the foul line taking 8 straight free throws and then replaced by another player (Oneonta's Deegan Harrison)  who took a pair giving them 10 straight free throws. They made 8 of the 10, but as I said, it didn't matter they already had the game won.

Oneonta played great and the most important stat....they had 12 made three pointers....we had 0x12. ::) :o They deserved to win the game.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on February 16, 2019, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 16, 2019, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 16, 2019, 12:00:07 AM
Looks like an interesting night in Oneonta with 4 techs by Plattsburgh; I'll let magic fill us in on the details.

ronk,
I don't know why all the technicals occurred. I was watching the game and saw a little scuffle break out between two players, one from each team. I have no idea why there were 4 technicals called on 3 different players. There wasn't much time left 1:27 and Plattsburgh was down 10 points and not likely to win anyway. The refs for this game were terrible, missing calls all over the place and calling ticky tack fouls and not calling obvious fouls. There were bad calls on both sides and Oneonta probably got the worst of it. Their big man, Joe Bull, had 3 fouls called on him in the first 7 minutes of the game and only played 19 minutes, he normally plays 35 to 40 minutes in a close game.

One thing I've never seen before was a player (Oneonta's Kevin Mackin) standing at the foul line taking 8 straight free throws and then replaced by another player (Oneonta's Deegan Harrison)  who took a pair giving them 10 straight free throws. They made 8 of the 10, but as I said, it didn't matter they already had the game won.

Oneonta played great and the most important stat....they had 12 made three pointers....we had 0x12. ::) :o They deserved to win the game.   

Crazy... I have never heard of that before!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2019, 03:45:37 PM
Many years ago, I remember that the names and numbers in the scorebook of some game didn't match, they had been copied wrong, so all the players were wearing numbers that didn't agree with the scorebook. At the first dead ball after the opening tip, the other coach had noticed that, and called the ref over, and his team shot 10 ft's.  The game was stopped so the book could be corrected.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2019, 04:04:12 PM
Feb. 16      The big finish with no drama for the top seed but lots of stuff everywhere else as everybody hits the court today   

Oswego State  @  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

Lakers playing to make their record look better in case they need an at large bid. Geneseo playing for pride. Knights knocked off Brockport and Cortland in the past week. Can they do it again. Oddsmakers have made Oswego a 13 point favorite. They better bring their game because the Knights would love to beat the top seed and carry that over into next season. Lakers win this one 75-65.


Plattsburgh State  @  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

Plattsburgh needs a win to make their record better, especially now that they may slide to 3rd place in the next set of Regional Rankings. They better bring their game because they left it on the bus yesterday. Hawks need a win here to secure a playoff bid they will be hungrier than the Cardinals. Oddsmakers have Plattsburgh favored by 8 points. I think they win by an 83-72 final score.


Cortland State  @  Brockport State        4:00 PM    Co-Featured Game of the Day

The winner gets the 3 seed the loser gets the 4 seed. No one else can move up any higher than the 5 spot. The oddsmakers have this one almost dead even, as they make  the Red Dragons a 1 point favorite. Both teams struggling down the stretch. I'll go withthe home team to win 76-73




Fredonia State  @  Buffalo State        4:00 PM

Both team would like to end disappointing seasons with a win. Only one can do that. Oddsmakers think the Bengals are big 15 point home favorites. I tend to agree. Blue Devils haven't won on the road all year. Buffalo State 89 Fredonia 74.


Potsdam State  @  Oneonta State        4:00 PM   Co-Featured Game of the Day

The winner is in, the loser may be out depending on who the loser is and what New Paltz does. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 6 point favorite. I think Oneonta wins this one as well to avenge the earlier loss to the Bears. Should be lots of points... Oneonta 89 Potsdam 84

I think Oneonta beats the Bears and claims the 5th seed with a 10-8 record. I also think Plattsburgh helps out the Bears and defeats New Paltz giving both the Hawks and the Bears 9-9 records. Potsdam wins the tiebreaker by virtue of their 2 wins over New Paltz and claims the 6th seed. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 16, 2019, 06:28:18 PM
My Bears, despite a tough day at Dewar, make the SUNYAC playoffs for the first time since 2011, and face Brockport on Tuesday at Tuttle North.  Congrats to Coach Bechtel and his seniors, who have moved from 1-24 in their first year through a coaching change to 13-12 and a playoff game as seniors.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 17, 2019, 12:25:45 AM
Good luck to those in the SUNYAC Tournament!
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 18, 2019, 06:23:51 AM
Magic must be looking forward to the "dance" if Plattsburgh keeps rolling!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2019, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 18, 2019, 06:23:51 AM
Magic must be looking forward to the "dance" if Plattsburgh keeps rolling!

I'm hoping we keep rolling. Had a little blip over the weekend that could have cost us hosting rights but turned out it didn't matter, when Oswego beat Brockport, so we head down there. I don't want to be waiting on an NCAA at large bid, so winning the YAC tournament is the solution to that problem. Tough tournament this week, though, as all 6 teams are capable of winning the title.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 18, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 18, 2019, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 18, 2019, 06:23:51 AM
Magic must be looking forward to the "dance" if Plattsburgh keeps rolling!

I'm hoping we keep rolling. Had a little blip over the weekend that could have cost us hosting rights but turned out it didn't matter, when Oswego beat Brockport, so we head down there. I don't want to be waiting on an NCAA at large bid, so winning the YAC tournament is the solution to that problem. Tough tournament this week, though, as all 6 teams are capable of winning the title.

Plus none of the six can count on an at-large bid so all are playing to make the NCAA tourney...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2019, 02:06:59 AM
Quote from: spwood on February 18, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 18, 2019, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 18, 2019, 06:23:51 AM
Magic must be looking forward to the "dance" if Plattsburgh keeps rolling!

I'm hoping we keep rolling. Had a little blip over the weekend that could have cost us hosting rights but turned out it didn't matter, when Oswego beat Brockport, so we head down there. I don't want to be waiting on an NCAA at large bid, so winning the YAC tournament is the solution to that problem. Tough tournament this week, though, as all 6 teams are capable of winning the title.

Plus none of the six can count on an at-large bid so all are playing to make the NCAA tourney...

If Plattsburgh or Oswego win a game and lose a game in the conference tournament, they would end up with a 21-6 record. That should be good enough to get them an at large bid. That's what happened to Plattsburgh in the 2015-16 season and not only did they get an at large bid but they hosted a first round pod of 4 teams.

The other 4 teams in the YAC tournament will need to win it to go dancing.

It will help us if Rochester beats Emory this coming Saturday to clinch the automatic bid in the UAA conference. That should allow the SUNYAC team (either Plattsburgh or Oswego) to be the first East Region team at the table to get an at large bid. If Rochester does get an automatic bid and someone other than Oswego or Plattsburgh wins the YAC's automatic bid then we would be the first two East Region teams at the table. I think the East Region may get 2 at large bids from Rochester, Oswego and Plattsburgh but will be surprised if all three of those teams get in if they all need at large bids. The Lakers or Cardinals will be the odd man out. I think the YAC gets a total of 2 bids (1 automatic and 1 at large). If a large number of favorites get upset in their conference tournaments and need at large bids to get into the tournament, that will hurt the East Region's chances of getting multiple at large bids. If Rochester needs an at large bid, then the YAC may not get one.     

The Liberty League, E8 and NEAC will only get the automatic bid that each conference gets. Hobart was 21-5 last year and lost out to a 19-7 Brockport for the last at large bid from the region. (and maybe the country)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2019, 02:37:20 AM
Oswego State's senior center, Tyler Pierre, was selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week after posting 3 double-doubles in the final regular season games of his career. This is the final POTW award for 2018-19. Tyler shot 69 % for the week and is #2 in the country in field goal percentage at 70.5 %.  Congratulations to Tyler on a great week, outstanding season and 4 solid years in a Laker uniform.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

"CORTLAND, N.Y. - Averaging a double-double for the home stretch into playoffs, Oswego senior Tyler Pierre (Deer Park, N.Y.) receives the final State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week for the 2018-19 regular season. 

In his final home game of the regular season against No. 5 Oneonta, the center had 14 points and 10 rebounds with a field goal percentage of 63.6. Pierre also had 2 blocks during their loss to Oneonta with the final score of 70-55. On the road, Pierre scored 18 points, 12 rebounds, and 1 block to help his team win over No. 3 Brockport. He went 7-10 from the field to gain a percentage of 70. The final score of the game was 85-69. For his last regular season game, Pierre walked away with 21 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists and 1 steal. He was 8-11 on shooting with a field goal percentage of 72.7 and 5-6 at the free throw line for a percentage of 83.3. Pierre's effort helped his team to get the win over Geneseo with the final score of 69-63.

Tyler Pierre's season's field goal percentage (70.5%), ranks first in the SUNYAC and second in Division III nationally. Pierre and the Oswego Lakers head into the SUNYAC playoffs as the No. 1 seed awaiting the first round victory of either No. 4 Cortland or No. 5 Oneonta.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2019, 02:46:56 AM
The D3hoops Top 25 poll was released Monday night and Plattsburgh State is ranked #24. The Cardinals slipped several spots from their #21 ranking of last week as they went 1-1 over the weekend. Their point total dropped from 144 to 58.

Oswego State continues to hang around in the Others Receiving Votes category as they are #36 with 10 points. Last week they were #36 with 6 points.

Rochester is now ranked at #20 with 167 points. Last week the Yellowjackets were #22 with 89 points.

No other team from the East Region is mentioned.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Oline89 on February 19, 2019, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2019, 02:46:56 AM
The D3hoops Top 25 poll was released Monday night and Plattsburgh State is ranked #24. The Cardinals slipped several spots from their #21 ranking of last week as they went 1-1 over the weekend. Their point total dropped from 144 to 58.

Oswego State continues to hang around in the Others Receiving Votes category as they are #36 with 10 points. Last week they were #36 with 6 points.

Rochester is now ranked at #20 with 167 points. Last week the Yellowjackets were #22 with 89 points.

No other team from the East Region is mentioned.
So Magicman, is the lack of love for the East legitimate?  Or is there just some bias against East teams?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 19, 2019, 01:42:39 PM
In terms of RPI, which is what the NCAA is using to select at large teams, Plattsburgh is 38th and Oswego is 40th. Next best East region team is Skidmore at 67. Rochester is in regardless, if they don't win the UAA they will be a pool C with their .605 RPI which is .010 higher than either Plattsburgh or Oswego.

There are 43 Pool A auto bids and 21 Pool C bids. Of the 43 Pool A bids, 20 are teams with RPI out of the top 64. Those conferences are win and you're in. 

If any of the 23 current pool A teams in the top 43 are upset in their conference tournament, they will probably use a pool C slot. 

If anyone other than Oswego or Plattsburgh [e.g. a suddenly hot Oneonta team] wins the SUNYAC, my guess is the finals loser, if Oswego or Plattsburgh is in, and the semi loser if Oswego or Plattsburgh is out.  Oswego's games are home games, in which a loss has a more profound impact on the RPI than a road or neutral game. If the SUNYAC final is two teams other than Oswego or Plattsburgh, they might both be on the close but no cigar list.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 19, 2019, 04:01:42 PM

Just to be clear, RPI has no bearing whatsoever on the NCAA selection procedures.  It's a combination of SOS, winning percentage, and results vs regionally ranked opponents (along with head to head matchups and common d3 opponents).

Even in the secondary criteria, RPI is not used.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 19, 2019, 04:15:17 PM
What Red Dragon teams will show up tonight in the Cortland vs Oneonta game.
Oneonta has been Hot lately and the Cortland has struggled a little bit.
Coach Conover seems to have Oneonta peaking at the right time again.
Should be a good 1

Will wait to hear what the Magicman has to say.

Can Magicman's Alma Mater go into Brockport and beat the Golden Eagles?

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2019, 07:08:52 PM
Feb. 19   

Potsdam State  @  Brockport State        7:00 PM

The Bears made the SUNYAC playoffs for the first time in 8 years, and this is the first time they have done so since the conference went to the current format of only the top six teams advancing to the YAC tournament. In 2010-11 Potsdam was the 8th and final seed and was promptly dispatched by top seed Oswego State in the first round. The Bears haven't won a playoff game in 14 years going all the way back to the 2004-05 season when they won the title and advanced to the Sweet 16.

Brockport is an annual guest in the tournament and won it all as recently as 2014 when they were the regular season and tournament champions. Injuries have hurt the Golden Eagles this season but they still managed to grab the 3rd seed and know they won't be dancing unless they win the automatic bid. Last year they got an at large bid over over Hobart (21-5) despite the fact that the Statesmen had a better overall record (Port's record was 19-6 at the time the bids were handed out). Brockport had beaten Hobart 89-83 earlier in the year, which was a big reason why the decision was made to give Port that bid.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 7 point home favorite in this game. The teams split the season series with each team winning at home. Port by 15 and the Bears by 7. Potsdam has made some major strides in the past 3 years as Coach Bechtel inherited a 1-24 team that 3 years later has a winning record for the first time in 13 years. I'd like to pick the Bears to win this game but making the playoffs is one thing... advancing is a Bear of a different color. Brockport wins at home by an 81-75 final score. But I sure hope I'm wrong and my Alma Mater pulls off the upset.             


   
Oneonta State  @  Cortland State        7:30 PM

The battle of the Red Dragons chapter 3. The teams split the season series and last year they also met in the first round of the playoffs at Cortland. So I guess this is Deja Vu all over again. It's also a tale of two teams headed in different directions. Cortland has lost 3 games in a row, 4 of their last 5 and yet just prior to those 5 games they had a big win over the top seeded Lakers in Oswego. Hard to believe they lost two of those last 3 games to the 7th place and 9th place teams.

Oneonta is coming on like gangbusters once again. On the outside looking in as late as January 28th when they had a grand total of 3 YAC wins these Red Dragons went on a tear and won 7 of their final 8 conference games to end up with the 5th seed. Now they hope to make their 3rd straight championship game. They are 4-3 against Cortland since Coach Conover took over the program 3 years ago and over the weekend Oneonta got their first win over Plattsburgh since Coach Conover left Plattsburgh to take the Oneonta job. Oneonta has also beaten Oswego so they have that going for them as well. Confidence is at an all time high and even the oddsmakers think they are the hot team. Oneonta has been listed as a 2 point road favorite. After the way they handled my Cardinals last Friday I agree. They certainly seem to be peaking at the right time. Oneonta wins this one  76-73.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2019, 08:38:25 PM
Brockport leads Potsdam 74-62 with 7 minutes left in the game.


Oneonta crushing Cortland 43-26 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2019, 09:06:02 PM
Brockport defeats Potsdam by a final score of 94-88.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 19, 2019, 09:35:59 PM
Oneonta defeats Cortland 84-71.

Semifinals are set....

Friday Feb 22nd

Brockport vs Plattsburgh  at 5:30 PM

Oneonta vs Oswego  at 7:30 PM

Looks like it's a red team vs a green team in both games. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 20, 2019, 12:48:37 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2019, 09:35:59 PM

Looks like it's a red team vs a green team in both games. 

Can confirm! ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/dbUxS2c.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:38:09 PM
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2019, 05:14:21 AM
Quote from: Oline89 on February 19, 2019, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 19, 2019, 02:46:56 AM
The D3hoops Top 25 poll was released Monday night and Plattsburgh State is ranked #24. The Cardinals slipped several spots from their #21 ranking of last week as they went 1-1 over the weekend. Their point total dropped from 144 to 58.

Oswego State continues to hang around in the Others Receiving Votes category as they are #36 with 10 points. Last week they were #36 with 6 points.

Rochester is now ranked at #20 with 167 points. Last week the Yellowjackets were #22 with 89 points.

No other team from the East Region is mentioned.
So Magicman, is the lack of love for the East legitimate?  Or is there just some bias against East teams?

I would say it's legitimate this year. Rochester, Plattsburgh and Oswego are probably the only East Region teams that merit consideration. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2019, 07:22:55 AM
Pool C bids have already taken a hit:

The top team in the WIAC conference UW-Oshkosh lost to the #4 seed. Oshkosh with a 23-3 record will get an at large bid. Would have been surprised to see another WIAC team get a bid if Oshkosh won the tournament.

In the NEWMAC conference top seeded MIT lost to 5th seeded WPI.  MIT with a 22-4 record will get an at large bid. This one also hurts because the NEWMAC was probably not going to get a 2nd team in, if MIT won the tournament.

In the Ohio Athletic Conference the #1 seed Capital (20-7) lost in the semifinals and the #3 seed Marietta (20-6) lost in the quarterfinals. They could get 3 teams in as #2 Mount Union (22-5) is playing #5 Baldwin Wallace (19-8) for the championship.

In the MIAC the top seed St. Thomas (22-4) lost in the semifinals. They will now get one of the at large bids.  #2 seed St John's (22-4) is playing #4 seed Augsburg (19-8) for the championship. If Augsburg wins that game the MIAC will probably get 3 teams in eating up 2 more Pool C bids. Augsburg has beaten the top seed St Thomas twice this year but has lost twice to St. John's. Need the Johnnies to come through again.

In the NESCSAC conference top seed Middlebury (18-7)  lost in the quarterfinals. They are on the bubble. The NESCAC has #2 seed Hamilton (22-3), #3 seed Amherst (21-4), and #4 seed Williams all still alive and at least 2 of those teams will get at large bids. They could get 3 at large bids but if Middlebury is up against Plattsburgh, I would think Plattsburgh wins out by virtue of a better record and a head to head win over Middlebury.

The NCAC has 3 teams still alive. The #1 seed Wooster (22-4), #2 seed Wittenberg (21-5) and the #3 seed Wabash (21-5) are all in the semifinals. This conference will probably get 3 teams into the NCAA tournament.

The Northwest Conference has #1 Whitman (25-1) playing #2 Whitworth (21-5) in the championship game. Both  teams will go to the dance.

The ODAC still has the top 2 seeds alive. Randolph-Macon (24-2) is in the semifinals as is Guilford (19-7). I think they will get a 2nd bid. Lynchburg (20-6) the #3 seed lost in the quarterfinals.

The SCIAC may get 2 bids as well. The top seed Pomona-Pitzer (23-2) will certainly get a bid if they get upset in the tournament. Clarmont-Mudd-Scripps (19-6) and Occidental (21-4) could also get a Pool C if they don't win the automatic entry.

The University Athletic Association will crown their winner on Saturday when Emory hosts Rochester in the regular season finale. The winner of that game will be the regular season champions and win the automatic bid. There is no post season tournament in this conference. The loser of that game, especially if it is Rochester will most likely get an at large bid. Rochester is currently the #1 team in the East Regional Rankings. If either Oswego or Plattsburgh overtakes them in the rankings it will only happen because that team won the SUNYAC tournament. So Rochester will still be the first East team at the table when the bids are being handed out.

The American Southwest Conference still has their top 2 seeds in the semifinals. Texas-Dallas (22-4) and Mary Hardin-Baylor (21-5) are #1 seeds from the East and West division. They could both go dancing.

The top 4 seeds are still alive in the CCIW and #1 Augustana (23-2), #2 North Central (20-5) and #3 Wheaton (19-7) all stand a good chance to get bids.

I think at least a dozen bids go to the teams I've mentioned and possibly as many as 17 of the 20 golden tickets are in this group of teams. If a few more favorites are upset then the bubble will burst for teams like Plattsburgh or Oswego.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2019, 07:24:22 AM
Feb. 22 Semifinal Round at Oswego State   


Plattsburgh State vs Brockport State   5:30 PM

Another battle royal between two teams that take turns beating each other. They have played 16 games over the past 7 seasons and they have an 8-8 record. This is the third time in the last 6 years that the teams will meet for a third game. Brockport won the rubber match in the 2013-14 season to win the YAC Championship, Plattsburgh returned the favor the next year upending the Golden Eagles in the semifinals but lost to the Lakers in the finals.

Once again both teams are trying to make the dance. Plattsburgh may have a shot for an at large bid even if they lose out on their annual goal of winning the SUNYAC's automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. However, the Cardinals could be on the outside looking in, if they lose this game to Brockport. They should be okay if they lose in the title game which would give them a 21-6 record. 20-6 could be a stretch if a number of favorites elsewhere need at large bids, due to upsets in other conference tournaments. Brockport has no such illusions. They need to win today and tomorrow or they can put their dancing shoes back in the closet until next year.

The oddsmakers have made the Cardinals a 4 point favorite, but this game is as even as they come. Both these teams have won the YAC crown as a longshot, and as a favorite in recent memory, so I expect another close game. Both teams have been fighting the injury bug as well and may be a bit shorthanded. I have to go with the Cardinals in this one 84-81.


Oneonta State @ Oswego State   7:30 PM

The Red Dragons are on quite a roll and looking like the team I thought they would be, when I picked them to come in 3rd in the conference this year. I even contemplated picking them to come in second, thinking they would beat out either Oswego or Plattsburgh, my top two choices. Then they proceeded to lose their first 4 YAC games and 6 of their first 7. Looking at the team's record of 1-6 in the conference on January 15th and mired in 9th place led me to think they may miss the playoffs. When they lost to New Paltz on January 26th for the 2nd time I thought they were dead. The Hawks not only owned a big lead but also the tiebreaker which was as good as another whole game in the standings. It would take a helluva run by the Red Dragons to make the playoffs and they had to do it against the top 4 teams and 3 of them were on the road. I wrote them off. Then they took off. The 15 point win at Cortland was an eye opener. Wow, where's that team been all year? They closed with 5 straight wins, including a whipping of the top two seeds, and none of those 5 games were close. And Tuesday night they toyed with Cortland opening up a 20 point lead, letting them close within 4, and then blowing it open again by 18 points. They did that without their leading scorer as Kevin Mackin didn't play at all in that game and neither did big man Carson Jacobs, who gives the Red Dragons solid minutes off the bench. Four of the five starters for Oneonta played 40 minutes each and the 5th starter played 35 minutes. One bench player came in for 5 minutes. It was an exceptional game by Oneonta's starters and I wish I knew who was available for tonight's contest.

Oswego looked to have the SUNYAC's top seed all sewn up with a 12-0 record, a 3 game lead and only 6 games left to play. Looks can be deceiving, though as the Lakers quickly found out. Sitting on a 3 game lead, all of a sudden became a dead heat to the finish line when Oswego lost to Cortland and Plattsburgh in a 7 day span. The Lakers had an ace up their sleeve, though, and that was a better road record than Plattsburgh, so the Cardinals had to finish ahead of Oswego or they would lose the top seed. If the Lakers suffered a 3rd loss when they played Brockport on the road they would still have the #1 seed and the tournament would go through Laker Hall. Four days after the Lakers lost to Plattsburgh, they hosted Oneonta and the Red Dragons won 70-55. Now Plattsburgh and Oswego were tied and a Laker loss to Brockport would turn the tide in Plattsburgh's favor. Only the Cardinals lost to Oneonta and Oswego was back in control. They beat Brockport and clinched the top seed setting up a repeat performance against Oneonta to see which team will advance to the Championship Game tomorrow.

Like Brockport, Oneonta needs to win the tournament and grab the automatic bid to go dancing. They won't be considered for an at large bid. Oswego is in the same boat as Plattsburgh. They need to get to the championship game, where a loss there will leave them at 21-6 and a solid chance at a Pool C bid.   

The oddsmakers like the home team and have made the Lakers a 4 point favorite, despite the victory Oneonta had in Laker Hall just 9 days ago. I'm going with the hot team here and hope they have all their players available for the game. Oneonta wins this 73-70, to advance to their 3rd straight Championship game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 22, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Magicman I love your picks.

Curle vs Conover for the SUNYAC title.

It doesn't get any better than that.

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2019, 06:30:07 PM
Brockport 49 Plattsburgh 40 at the half.

Brockport raining 3 pointers on the Cardinals as the Golden Eagles hit 8 of 12 from long distance. A couple of them got very lucky bounces. Antonio Alvarez with 11 points and a pair of triples. Chris Atkinson with 10 points and a pair of triples. Josh Nelson with 9 points and 3 triples. Big man and leading scorer Justin Summers went down with an injury with 12:12 left to play in the first half.

Plattsburgh has 10 points each from Jon Patron and Brandon Johnson. The Cardinals were down by 15 points but Johnson got hot and drained 3 shots from downtown in the final 1:21 of the half. The last one coming with 1 second on the clock to cut the lead to single digits.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2019, 07:23:29 PM
Brockport 86 Plattsburgh 85  Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 22, 2019, 07:36:57 PM
D3 has the opposite result.

Looks like I read it wrong.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2019, 07:43:02 PM
Brockport won 86-85 watched the game...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2019, 09:22:15 PM
Oneonta 36 Oswego 32 arthe break.

Andres Rivera with 13 to lead Oneonta. Joe Bull and Dylan Trombly with 9 each.

Liam Sanborn with 11 for Oswego. Joe Sullivan with 9 and Brandon Gartland with
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 22, 2019, 09:48:06 PM
Oswego 64 Oneonta 64 heading into double overtime at Laker Hall.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2019, 10:11:18 PM
Oswego defeats Oneonta 73-69 in double overtime.

A pair of great games tonight in Laker Hall.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Basketball23 on February 23, 2019, 03:30:51 AM
Good Luck to Plattsburgh, as they say their prayers to churches Leone and Flockerzi tonight. With the all the upsets Nationally thus far I dont see a scenario with either Rochester or Oswego losing and them getting in.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2019, 11:00:26 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 22, 2019, 07:36:57 PM
D3 has the opposite result.

Looks like I read it wrong.

No, you did not have it wrong. Live Stats on both D3 and SUNYAC sites had Plattsburgh leading this game most of the time. Wasn't the case. Weird. Don't know about D3 immediately having the final result right, but SUNYAC board at game's end did not. Was corrected.

We took note here of Magic's halftime update that indeed had Bport in charge and immediately found video evidence. Watched Pburgh's comeback and Bport's cliffhanger victory.

Congrats to Brockport and Oswego for making the final. And to Oneonta, kudos for turning your season around. Pleasure to see your grit. And the fact you were minus keg cog Mackin was even more impressive.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2019, 11:45:00 AM
Quote from: jdex on February 23, 2019, 11:00:26 AM
No, you did not have it wrong. Live Stats on both D3 and SUNYAC sites had Plattsburgh leading this game most of the time. Wasn't the case. Weird. Don't know about D3 immediately having the final result right, but SUNYAC board at game's end did not. Was corrected.


It's all from the same database -- unfortunately, if the SUNYAC did not have home and away set up correctly for its neutral game, there was little we could do to change it without being informed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 23, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
Yes, Pat, figured it was something like that. Just wanted to let Ronk know he wasn't seeing things. Fortunately, we had options (video)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 23, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: jdex on February 23, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
Yes, Pat, figured it was something like that. Just wanted to let Ronk know he wasn't seeing things. Fortunately, we had options (video)

Thanks, I thought I went into the boxscore originally and verified it; then thought I had a senior moment when it changed.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2019, 04:43:57 PM
Brockport leads Oswego 31-25 at the half.

Jahidi Wallace with 10 points to lead Brockport.  Danny Ashley has 8 points.

Brandon Gartland and Quinn Carey with 6 points each for Oswego.

Didn't get a chance to post my prediction for this game. Brockport should have fresher legs because of the minutes the 5 starters for Oswego played last night. I still think Oswego is going to come back from the 6 point halftime deficit and win this game.
Final score could be something like 67-65 in favor of Oswego.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2019, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2019, 11:45:00 AM
Quote from: jdex on February 23, 2019, 11:00:26 AM
No, you did not have it wrong. Live Stats on both D3 and SUNYAC sites had Plattsburgh leading this game most of the time. Wasn't the case. Weird. Don't know about D3 immediately having the final result right, but SUNYAC board at game's end did not. Was corrected.


It's all from the same database -- unfortunately, if the SUNYAC did not have home and away set up correctly for its neutral game, there was little we could do to change it without being informed.

I didn't know who was at fault but I did send a message to D3hoops the day before the game that the Feb 22nd scoreboard and the team pages listed the game as Plattsburgh at Brockport as if the Golden Eagles were the home team. Knowing that the Cardinals were the #2 seed and Brockport the #3 seed playing on a neutral court, I thought the Cardinals would be on the right side of the D3hoops scoreboard.  I tried my best to get it corrected ahead of time. ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2019, 05:37:27 PM
Oswego State wins the SUNYAC Championship as they defeat Brockport 55-50.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 23, 2019, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2019, 04:43:57 PM
Brockport leads Oswego 31-25 at the half.

Jahidi Wallace with 10 points to lead Brockport.  Danny Ashley has 8 points.

Brandon Gartland and Quinn Carey with 6 points each for Oswego.

Didn't get a chance to post my prediction for this game. Brockport should have fresher legs because of the minutes the 5 starters for Oswego played last night. I still think Oswego is going to come back from the 6 point halftime deficit and win this game.
Final score could be something like 67-65 in favor of Oswego.

yup, Oz wins by 5, congrats to the Lakers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 23, 2019, 06:11:39 PM
Oswego wins the YAC championship to get the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. Rochester didn't do their part as they lost this afternoon, giving the championship of the UAA and the automatic bid to the Emory Eagles.

I expect Oswego State will be #1, Rochester will be #2 and Plattsburgh State will be #3 in the East when the new rankings are finalized on Sunday. Rochester will be at the table first and they will get a Pool C bid to the NCAA tournament. The East region may not get another at large bid so Plattsburgh's season may be done.  Hopefully that's not the case, but it wouldn't surprise me. As I stated earlier there has already been a number of upsets and many of the 20 Pool C bids have been snatched up. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 23, 2019, 06:14:35 PM
Knowing how the NCAA loves to avoid travel costs, how about a pod in Oswego with Morrisville vs. Oswego and Alfred vs. U of R.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Conts Fan on February 23, 2019, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 23, 2019, 06:14:35 PM
Knowing how the NCAA loves to avoid travel costs, how about a pod in Oswego with Morrisville vs. Oswego and Alfred vs. U of R.
Could be Hamilton hosting
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 24, 2019, 08:16:46 AM
Agreed, Clinton would be a very convenient spot for a pod with say Plattsburgh, Skidmore/Hobart, Morrisville.

with 4 NESCAC teams in the field, and this year women's teams have first round priority, those four will be spread around for sure.

Amherst women are a lock, so the Mammoth men will be traveling, even if they win today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2019, 09:14:20 AM
Congratulations to the Oswego State Lakers and Coach Jason Leone on winning the SUNYAC Championship. The Lakers won two tough games that came right down to the wire and did so with a starting five that got very little rest. Of the 450 minutes of court time the team played this weekend...the starters played 430 minutes.

Brockport also deserves credit for the 2 games they played, after losing the team's leading scorer and first team All Conference player, Justin Summers. Losing Justin, a few minutes into the semifinal game on Friday, was a devastating blow, but the Golden Eagles almost pulled off an amazing weekend.

Oneonta makes the Final Four with a helluva push in the final 3 weeks of the regular season and then has to play the SUNYAC tournament without their leading scorer, Kevin Mackin. They beat Cortland and then gave the Lakers all they could handle in the double overtime semifinal game. Their bench was as short or shorter than Oswego's was.

Plattsburgh State put up a valiant effort against Brockport in the semifinals coming back from a 15 point deficit to get the lead late in the game. Brockport made the shot to take the lead (great shot by Jahidi Wallace)  and the Cardinals' attempt at the game winner rims out. Hopefully Plattsburgh, by virtue of their body of work, will continue to play next weekend when the Dance starts.

So four teams that made for an unforgettable SUNYAC tournament with 3 games that were all nail biting, barnburners. You can't ask for more than that.

Congratulations to all the schools in the SUNYAC. We had schools that improved tremendously this year like Potsdam and New Paltz, and we have lots of good, young, players coming back next year that will once again make the YAC one of the better conferences out there.

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 24, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
Man that would not be very nice to the East if only 2 teams get Pool C bids?  Cmon.. the Cards deserve to go if only to keep Magic truly engaged!!! ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 24, 2019, 11:29:21 AM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 24, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
Man that would not be very nice to the East if only 2 teams get Pool C bids?  Cmon.. the Cards deserve to go if only to keep Magic truly engaged!!! ;D

with age,

If two teams from the East get Pool C bids I would be very happy because Plattsburgh should be 1 of them with Rochester the other. It's what will happen if the East only gets 1 bid and that could happen. Then Rochester goes and my Cards stay home.

I am hopeful that we get 2 bids. Don't see any way the East would get 3 bids.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 24, 2019, 12:11:35 PM
Didn't the Cards have a win over Middlebury this season?  Yet everyone seems to think they have almost a lock except of course their own fans... ;)  Dance Cards ...dance is my prediction!  Pretty sure that none of the LL teams are in the picture except for the tournament winner... :-[
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 24, 2019, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 24, 2019, 12:11:35 PM
Didn't the Cards have a win over Middlebury this season?  Yet everyone seems to think they have almost a lock except of course their own fans... ;)  Dance Cards ...dance is my prediction!  Pretty sure that none of the LL teams are in the picture except for the tournament winner... :-[

It's more than just one game.  If they're on the board at the same time, then it might come into play, but I suspect Middlebury will be gone before Plattsburgh come up.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2019, 01:17:09 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2019, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2019, 11:45:00 AM
Quote from: jdex on February 23, 2019, 11:00:26 AM
No, you did not have it wrong. Live Stats on both D3 and SUNYAC sites had Plattsburgh leading this game most of the time. Wasn't the case. Weird. Don't know about D3 immediately having the final result right, but SUNYAC board at game's end did not. Was corrected.


It's all from the same database -- unfortunately, if the SUNYAC did not have home and away set up correctly for its neutral game, there was little we could do to change it without being informed.

I didn't know who was at fault but I did send a message to D3hoops the day before the game that the Feb 22nd scoreboard and the team pages listed the game as Plattsburgh at Brockport as if the Golden Eagles were the home team. Knowing that the Cardinals were the #2 seed and Brockport the #3 seed playing on a neutral court, I thought the Cardinals would be on the right side of the D3hoops scoreboard.  I tried my best to get it corrected ahead of time. ;D

How did you send this? I didn't see it, sorry. But also, I am highly unlikely to overrule the SUNYAC and do something that would change the SUNYAC's website. Schools and conferences don't like that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2019, 01:21:12 PM
Quote from: thebear on February 23, 2019, 06:14:35 PM
Knowing how the NCAA loves to avoid travel costs, how about a pod in Oswego with Morrisville vs. Oswego and Alfred vs. U of R.

The bracketing in this sport does not go this way, actually. Plattsburgh hosted a pod with two East teams, a New England team and an Atlantic team last year. St. John Fisher hosted a pod with two Easts and two Northeasts in 2017, as did U of R. Plattsburgh hosted three New England teams in 2016.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 24, 2019, 05:33:49 PM
Good luck to the SUNYAC teams that make the dance!  Projections seem good for your Cardinals, magicman!
(https://i.imgur.com/Yhu1iiL.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 25, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
Cardinals didn't have to wait long to find out they are dancing!!! Playing in the Williams pod against Gwynedd Mercy.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 25, 2019, 12:57:46 PM
Jon Patron & Co. live to play another game.
Magicman, Those Red Ruby Slippers did the trick again.

Let's Go Cardinals

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2019, 01:28:34 PM
YESSSSSSSSS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 25, 2019, 01:34:41 PM
On the d3hoops.com mock selection show last night, they seemed pretty confident Plattsburgh was going to make it.  I suppose as early as Rochester came off the board, Plattsburgh had a better chance.  They hit on 18 out of the 20 Pool C bids.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on February 25, 2019, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 25, 2019, 01:28:34 PM
YESSSSSSSSS!

CONGRATULATIONS!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on February 25, 2019, 04:33:12 PM
Magicman....congrat to your Cardinals!   Now you must watch out for some Big Bad Ephs...you hear! :).   Seriously, Amherst beat the EPHs three times this season.  If you meet them, speed and defense will help "chop down" the tall timbers, my friend.  My LJs do not wish to meet them again ;D.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 25, 2019, 10:20:23 PM
Magicman.. there is justice ... Cards dance as I predicted!!  Congrats in order!!  I must assume that you are traveling??
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2019, 05:28:45 AM
Pep,

Thanks for the congrats. Had my fingers crossed and was pretty sure we'd get in but didn't want to say anything along those lines and jinx my guys. Good luck to the Saxons. I hope all the East Region teams do well. Remember the NJAC teams have a history of losing in the first round. Last year I watched New Jersey City blow a sizable lead and lose to Union right here in Plattsburgh. Ramapo has lost twice in the first round in recent memory.....to Morrisville State 86-78 in 2013 and to Johnson and Wales 114-106 in 2011. Go get em!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2019, 06:17:57 AM
Quote from: amh63 on February 25, 2019, 04:33:12 PM
Magicman....congrat to your Cardinals!   Now you must watch out for some Big Bad Ephs...you hear! :).   Seriously, Amherst beat the EPHs three times this season.  If you meet them, speed and defense will help "chop down" the tall timbers, my friend.  My LJs do not wish to meet them again ;D.

amh63,
Thank you for the acknowledgement. And to your LJ's as well. I hope we get the chance to meet Amherst on March 15th in the Final Four. We both have to win a few games to do so and the odds are not in our favor, but at least the brackets are lined up so that can be possible. Right now I just want to meet the Ephs in the next round or the team they are matched up with. Nothing is a given at this point of the year. Any team that got an invite or won their conference is a good team or they wouldn't be dancing.

I know the Ephs have good size, but I think we may be the quicker team. I watched Williams play your Amherst team in the NESCAC tournament. I had a feeling if we made the NCAA field we might have to play one of them on the first weekend, if we are fortunate enough to win our first round game. It will be the 3rd time in our last 5 trips to the NCAA tournament, that we've had to meet a NESCAC team in the tournament, after the first or second game

I don't blame you for wanting the Cardinals to get rid of the Ephs for you. ;D I know, as you mentioned, that the LJ's have already beaten Williams 3 times this year. Seems to me that the last time that happened, you met them for a 4th time, exactly where my Cardinals would meet your LJ's if they both keep winning....in the semifinals. And that 4th meeting with Williams, which was March 21st, 2014, proved to be one too many, as the Ephs got their revenge and beat Amherst to advance to the title game. (where the Ephs lost the National Championship to Whitewater on a last second basket).       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 27, 2019, 06:22:54 AM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on February 25, 2019, 10:20:23 PM
Magicman.. there is justice ... Cards dance as I predicted!!  Congrats in order!!  I must assume that you are traveling??

With Age,

As I stated above I didn't want to jinx my guys so I left the predicting to others. :D Good job on your part. ;) How are you and how's  your son doing? Send me a PM with the news. Also a phone number. I'll give you a call and we can catch up a bit. Miss you on the boards. Thanks for the congrats. Travel plans are questionable.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 27, 2019, 11:22:26 PM
Good luck to the Cardinals and Lakers in the NCAA Tournament!

Here's the bracket for the regional Plattsburgh is in:
(https://i.imgur.com/qrpP90W.png)

Oswego:
(https://i.imgur.com/d6jHrK1.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 28, 2019, 12:07:49 AM
Magic,
  just saw Plattsburgh(baseball) on Pardon the Interruption - they had tying run on 2nd when a muffed pickoff attempt let him come all the way home sliding by the plate; throw went by the catcher but rebounded in time to tag the runner just before he stretched for the plate. National coverage!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2019, 06:30:11 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2019, 12:07:49 AM
Magic,
  just saw Plattsburgh(baseball) on Pardon the Interruption - they had tying run on 2nd when a muffed pickoff attempt let him come all the way home sliding by the plate; throw went by the catcher but rebounded in time to tag the runner just before he stretched for the plate. National coverage!

Thanks ronk,

Smitty mentioned it on our player draft board about 15 minutes before you posted here, but I was not sure how the play transpired and the play by play from the box score doesn't explain it like you did.. Now I know.  I missed it as we had the TV turned off. Some consolation....Plattsburgh played a double header against that team and we won the first game 17-4.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: spwood on February 28, 2019, 08:28:46 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2019, 12:07:49 AM
Magic,
  just saw Plattsburgh(baseball) on Pardon the Interruption - they had tying run on 2nd when a muffed pickoff attempt let him come all the way home sliding by the plate; throw went by the catcher but rebounded in time to tag the runner just before he stretched for the plate. National coverage!

It was featured on MLB.com as well.  Missing in this explanation is that the runner completely missed home plate with his slide.  He was trying to get back to the plate when the tag occured...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
Quote from: spwood on February 28, 2019, 08:28:46 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2019, 12:07:49 AM
Magic,
  just saw Plattsburgh(baseball) on Pardon the Interruption - they had tying run on 2nd when a muffed pickoff attempt let him come all the way home sliding by the plate; throw went by the catcher but rebounded in time to tag the runner just before he stretched for the plate. National coverage!

It was featured on MLB.com as well.  Missing in this explanation is that the runner completely missed home plate with his slide.  He was trying to get back to the plate when the tag occured...

spwood.
Thanks for the additional info.  ronk and I are involved in a fantasy draft on another board and it was mentioned there, as well, that the runner slid by home plate without touching it.  ronk's post filled in some of the gaps for me and I was pretty sure of what happened. Your post confirmed it.  Crazy way to lose. One thing though, didn't the ball hit the backstop when it went by the catcher and bounce right back to him and that was why he could tag the runner so quickly?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2019, 12:16:10 PM
The SUNYAC All Conference awards have been released for the 2018-19 season. The following info is from the SUNYAC website

Player of the Year   Jonathan Patron, Plattsburgh

Senior forward Jonathan Patron has been chosen as the Men's Basketball Player of the Year for the second year in a row. Patron averaged a double-double this season with 23.7 points per game and 10.7 rebounds per game. The senior is the conference leader in total points (615) and in total rebounds (277). Notable games throughout the season were his 32 points/20 rebound game against Oswego, 34 points/14 rebound game against Brockport, and his 41 points - matching his career high - and 10 rebound performance against Buffalo State. Patron's offensive prowess enabled him to etch himself into the Plattsburgh record books by breaking the career points record. He was selected to the 2019 SUNYAC Men's Basketball All-Conference First Team for the second year in a row as well.

Rookie of the Year   Danny Ashley, Brockport

A graduate of Uniondale High School, where he earned Nassau County Player of the Year, Brockport freshman guard Danny Ashley averaged 8.1 points per game as well as 3.6 assists per game overall. Ashley in total dished out 100 assists over the course of the Golden Eagles season. Although only starting in 15 of Brockport's total 28 games, Ashley was able to make notable impacts in those games. He notched an 18 point game against Geneseo, a 23 point game against Oneonta, and was able to drop 34 points in Brockport's SUNYAC quarterfinal matchup against Potsdam.

Coach of the Year   Jason Leone, Oswego

In his 8th season as the Oswego men's basketball head coach, Jason Leone led the Lakers to a 22-5 overall record thus far (15-3 in the conference) and a victory in the 2019 SUNYAC Men's Basketball championship. The Lakers were able to hold off Oneonta in a thrilling 73-69 double overtime game in the SUNYAC semifinals and then go on to beat Brockport 55-50 in the championship. Leone led Oswego to their eighth overall SUNYAC championship this year, their second in the last three years. Jason Leone and the Oswego Lakers will look to continue their success in the NCAA tournament this year.

First Team           
Name   School   Year   Hometown
Justin Summers   Brockport   Jr.   Brooklyn, N.Y.
Justin Cooper   Cortland   Sr.   Pine Plains, N.Y.
Tyler Pierre   Oswego   Sr.   Deer Park, N.Y.
Liam Sanborn   Oswego   So.   Staten Island, N.Y.
Jonathan Patron   Plattsburgh   Sr.   Huntington, N.Y.

Second Team           
Name   School   Year   Hometown
Nicky Bonura   Cortland   Sr.   Mount Kisco, N.Y.
Joseph Bull   Oneonta   So.   Bronx, N.Y.
Kevin Mackin   Oneonta   Jr.   Nanuet, N.Y.
Chris Middleton   Plattsburgh   Sr.   New York, N.Y.
Dante Langley   Potsdam   Sr.   Schuylerville, N.Y.

Third Team           
Name   School   Year   Hometown
Devante Hagins   Brockport   So.   Rochester, N.Y.
Dom Grayer   Buffalo State   Jr.   Brooklyn, N.Y.
Tristan Wissemann   New Paltz   Jr.   Shelter Island, N.Y.
Brandan Gartland   Oswego   Jr.   Webster, N.Y.
Brandon Johnson   Plattsburgh   Sr.    Greenburgh, N.Y.

Congratulations to all of the recipients who received All Conference honors. Excellence on and off the court by so many. I will miss all the graduating seniors that I've had the pleasure of watching for the last 4 years. May life be good to you!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 28, 2019, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: magicman on February 28, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
Quote from: spwood on February 28, 2019, 08:28:46 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2019, 12:07:49 AM
Magic,
  just saw Plattsburgh(baseball) on Pardon the Interruption - they had tying run on 2nd when a muffed pickoff attempt let him come all the way home sliding by the plate; throw went by the catcher but rebounded in time to tag the runner just before he stretched for the plate. National coverage!

It was featured on MLB.com as well.  Missing in this explanation is that the runner completely missed home plate with his slide.  He was trying to get back to the plate when the tag occured...

spwood.
Thanks for the additional info.  ronk and I are involved in a fantasy draft on another board and it was mentioned there, as well, that the runner slid by home plate without touching it.  ronk's post filled in some of the gaps for me and I was pretty sure of what happened. Your post confirmed it.  Crazy way to lose. One thing though, didn't the ball hit the backstop when it went by the catcher and bounce right back to him and that was why he could tag the runner so quickly?

Exactly ..... caught my attention as well on the PTI (one of ESPN's best) closing segment. Interesting that some video was available. Wasn't for general consumption that we knew, though Live Stats were. Posted general roundup of DH on baseball board shortly upon conclusion. But as you said the wild finish didn't appear that way on the play-by-play.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2019, 03:13:26 PM
March 1st  NCAA Tournament Time

Plattsburgh State (20-6) vs  Gwynedd Mercy (19-8)    5:30 PM   at Williams

The Cardinals meet the Gwynedd Mercy Griffins, winners of the AEC (Atlantic East Conference), a new Division III conference of 7 colleges located in Pennsylvania, Delaware and Virginia. The conference was formed when 5 schools left the Colonial States Athletic Conference and 2 schools left the Capital Athletic Conference to form the new AEC conference. Since this is a new conference they don't receive an automatic bid but instead go into Pool B where one at large bid is awarded to one of 16 teams in that pool. It consists of the seven schools from this conference, 6 schools from another new conference, the ACAA (American Collegiate Athletic Association), plus 3 other independent schools that have no conference affiliation. For the next few years the Pool B bid most likely will go to the winner of this conference or the winner of the ACAA. The Griffins were the winners of the AEC with a 9-3 conference record and also won their conference tournament. The NCAA awarded the Griffins the Pool B bid this year based on their body of work and criteria involved.

Plattsburgh has never played the Griffins in basketball so this will be a first time matchup. The Cardinals finished as the #2 seed in the  SUNYAC and lost to Brockport on a last second basket in the semifinals of the conference tournament. They ended up as the 3rd ranked team in the East Region behind SUNYAC champion Oswego State and #2 Rochester who was the runner-up in the UAA conference. The Cardinals received their NCAA invitation as a Pool C at large selection, one of only 20 invitations available to the 400 plus Division III schools in the country. It is the 9th time in the past 14 years that the Cardinals have been in the NCAA tournament and 5th time in the last 7 years. Three times they have made it to the Sweet 16.

The Griffins will try and use their quickness to beat Plattsburgh as they often start 4 guards that are no taller than 6"1" and another guard that is 6'4". Sometimes they go slightly taller and start another one of their 3 bigs, that are in their rotation of 10 players, instead of a 4th guard. Their top scorers are 3 guards led by Jr. Rich Dunham a 6'1" guard who averages 16.9 ppg and 4.3 rpg. He is their best 3 point shooter with 45 triples and connects 44.6% of the time from downtown. Sr. Courtney Cubbage another 6'1" guard also averages 16.9 ppg and grabs 5.1 rpg. Sr. Clayton Wolfe, the third guard averaging double digits with 13.9 ppg, is the shortest guy on the team at 5'10", but he is the leading rebounder on the team with 7.0 rpg. He also leads the team in assists with 105. Their best big man is 6'4"  Sr. guard, Jeff Seigafuse  who averages 8.8 ppg and 4.0 rpg. He has started more games, 15, than any other player except the aforementioned 3 guards. Matt Sommers is a 6'1" Sr. guard who is the 5th starter more often than not with 14 starts. He averages 6.5 ppg, 2,4 rpg and is 2nd on the team with 35 made three pointers. The Griffins have a rotation of 10 players that receive double digit minutes. Eight of those are guards and two are forwards. The 5 players 6'4" and taller all get between 11 and 14 minutes a game, except for Seigafuse who gets 22 minutes per game.

The Griffins score 77.7 ppg and give up 72.7 ppg. They shoot 45.2% from the field and 34.4% from long distance (182x529) with 6 players having double digit three pointers. They knock down their free throws at a rate of 71.7%. They average 35.3 rpg to the opponents 33.7.

Plattsburgh should be able to counter the speed of the Griffins. Brandon Johnson, Ian Howard, Nick DeAngelis and Travis Cox are no slouches when it comes to speed. The Griffins will have a hard time with SUNYAC Player of the Year Jon Patron. They should expect a steady diet of Patron down low and If they collapse on him then a kick out to Chris Middleton, Johnson or DeAngelis.  Plattsburgh won't mind a fast paced game either. That suits their fancy. The battle of the boards should be a big plus in Plattsburgh's favor. Patron and Howard are two of the best rebounders in the SUNYAC and even if the Griffins come at the Cardinals with a bigger than usual lineup I don't see them winning the rebounding game. Three point shooting could be a Griffin advantage. If they get hot, and it looks like they have a number of guys that can score from beyond the arc, and Plattsburgh comes up with a game like we did down at Brockport where we were 1x24 from long range then it could be a long day. The 2nd game against Oneonta was another bad outing when the Cardinals were 0x12 from deep. Plattsburgh needs to play this game, much like the game they had last year in the first round, when we defeated Nichols College 103-86. They had a similar type lineup with small quick guards that loved to fire up three pointers. We got out on those guards and defended the three point line quite well, and made our share of trifectas.  We'll need more of that tonight. I expect Plattsburgh to use a rotation of 8 players in this game, as big man Isaiah Hill should be back in action. 

The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh a 7 point favorite in this one. I think the Cardinals are the stronger team here and we've had success against teams like the Griffins. We've also been burned by teams with quick guards that drive and shoot a lot of threes....can you say Brockport? I hope the Cardinals are focused on tonight's game and not thinking about a match up with Williams tomorrow. One game at a time. These teams are all good...we just need to be better. I'll take Plattsburgh to win this one 94-83.                     


   
Salem State  @  Oswego State         7:30 PM

The Lakers are dancing again after not getting a date last March. It marks the 4th time in the last 5 years and 6th time in the last 9  that Oswego is in the NCAA Tournament. Four of those appearances were automatic entries as they were the SUNYAC Champs. Two other entries were Pool C at large bids. The Lakers made the Sweet 16 a few years ago and missed an appearance in the Elite Eight suffering a 1 point loss to Wooster on a disputed call at the buzzer. This year they would like to erase the taste of that loss and the taste of their most recent trip to the NCAA tournament when they dropped a first round game that they should have won to Scranton. The Lakers blew a 19 point 2nd half lead and the game went into overtime. The Lakers came up short and that one hurt.

It's funny how history can repeat itself. Or at least how some things are interconnected. Three years ago when Oswego made the Sweet 16, the team they had to play in the 2nd round to get into the Sweet 16 was none other than Plattsburgh State's opponent tonight, Gwynedd Mercy. That game went to overtime and the Lakers prevailed 78-77. The game took place in Marietta, Ohio and the Lakers probably should have been playing the host school, the Marietta Pioneers, but the underdog Griffins from Gwynedd Mercy upset the Pioneers by a single point, only to lose the next night to Oswego by a single point in overtime. The following weekend the Lakers lost to Wooster by that same single point, which hurt, because it was a lousy call with just a couple of ticks on the clock. It sent Wooster's star player to the foul line where he made both free throws to give the Scots a 66-65 win.

So now the Lakers get to host a pod of 4 teams and their first round game is against Salem State the winner of the automatic bid from the MASCAC conference. In 2016 Plattsburgh State also went to the NCAA tournament and they hosted a pod of 4 teams. Their first round opponent was Fitchburg State from the same conference as Salem State. Plattsburgh was favored and they were expected to win and face Trinity College from the mighty NESCAC conference the next day to see who would make the Sweet 16. Both Trinity and Plattsburgh lost their first round games and watched the other two teams play the next day for the right to advance. So in just a few years we've come full circle...kinda....as the Lakers will take on the MASCAC conference that Plattsburgh played in 2016 and Plattsburgh will take on Gwynedd Mercy the team Oswego beat in 2016. One other historical tidbit....Plattsburgh is playing tonight at Williamstown which is the site of the Oswego-Scranton game of two years ago that found the Lakers on the short end of the score when they had that big lead.

So a few old ghosts can get erased tonight if things go well. Let's all hope that they do.

The Salem State Vikings enters the tournament with an 18-9 overall record that saw them win both the regular season crown and the MASCAC Tournament. They won't be a pushover as they played a tough non-conference schedule and had wins over Mass-Dartmouth, Tufts and Endicott. They also played Top 25 teams such as Williams and MIT, along with 20 win teams like Keene State, winner of the Little East Conference crown and Gordon, runnerup to Nichols in the CCC conference. The Vikings won't be an easy out and are capable of pulling off the upset.

The main man for the Vikings is 6'2" Jr. guard Sean Bryan. As he goes, so goes the Vikings. He's already scored over 1200 points in his college career and he's got 1 more year to go. Averaging 25.4 ppg and 8.0 rpg, he's also their top long distance threat with 63 buckets from behind the arc. He also shares the ball well, averaging a team leading 5.4 assists per game.  Hakeem Animashaun is a 6'7" Jr. forward who leads the team in rebounding with 11.5 per game and averages 21.2 ppg. He has 19 double-doubles this season.     6'4" Sr Bryan Martinez is also a starting forward. He averages 8.6 ppg and 4.2 rpg.  Temitope Bailey another 6'4"  Sr forward has started 29 games this season and is the 3rd leading rebounder on the team with 5.7 rpg and 7.3 ppg.  Alex De La Rosa is the other starting guard who is a 6 foot sophomore that worked his way into a starting role. He began the year as 4th or 5th option off the bench getting 4 to 10 minutes a game but by the end of December was starting and averaging 21 minutes of court time. He averaging 5 points a game.     

The Vikings play at a fast pace and are averaging 87.1 ppg which is the 25th highest total in Division III. They give up 85.0 ppg to their opponents. The shoot 45% from the field, 30.4% from 3 point range and 70.2% from the line. They outrebound their opponents 44.8 to 39.7. They will come to play so the Lakers need to play at a high level right from the start and not dig themselves a hole that they can't get out of.

The Lakers bring a lot of weapons to the table as SUNYAC fans have witnessed this season. 6'6" Sr. forward Tyler Pierre, the SUNYAC tournament's Most Valuable Player and First Team All Conference performer is a force inside whether he's scoring or fighting for a rebound. Averaging nearly a double-double of 13.2 ppg and 8.8 rpg he leads a balanced Oswego team that has 5 players scoring in double digits. 6'0" Sophomore point guard Liam Sanborn averages 12.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg and led the SUNYAC with 5.7 assists per game. He can knock down the three pointer, drive to the hoop to score or find the open man. Many times that open man is 6'3" Jr guard Brandon Gartland, 12.9 ppg and 4.3 rpg with 46 made three pointers. 6'5" Jr. forward Joe Sullivan is another of Sanborn's favorite targets. Sullivan is a workhorse that will beat you a number of ways. He averages 10 ppg and 7.7 rpg. Quinn Carey is a 6'3" Sr guard who averages 11.1 ppg and 2.6 rpg. He is the top 3 point shooter on the team with 86 triples and when he gets hot he can make a deficit disappear in a hurry. He has made at least 3 shots from long distance in 17 games this year and has made 6 or more 4 times. He was struggling last Saturday in the SUNYAC championship game when shot after shot was rimming out. Many guys might have lost confidence but Carey hung with his shot and hit two from downtown right before halftime to narrow the deficit the Lakers were facing from 11 points down to a more manageable 6. He hit another pair in the 2nd half that were big shots as well. Oswego hasn't used much help from their bench with their starters playing 197 minutes out of the 200 in the Brockport game. That could hurt them tonight if the Vikings turn this game into a track meet. Oswego has been playing great defense and somehow I think they will weather the shorthanded bench storm. If they can manage that problem against Brockport and Oneonta as they did last weekend I think they'll be able to bring the defensive intensity and keep this game under control. The Vikings have put up some gaudy numbers in league play but some of the stronger schools they've been up against have shut them down. 

The oddsmakers have made the host Lakers a solid 9 point favorite in this one. I think the defense the Lakers will bring will limit the points that the Vikings put up. I don't think they get that 87 point average. Oswego 82 Salem State 69.


GO CARDINALS   


GO LAKERS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 01, 2019, 03:41:06 PM
Here's how to follow with us tonight:
Live scoreboard: https://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2018-19/ncaa-tournament
Whiparound: https://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/whiparound/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2019, 06:25:03 PM
Plattsburgh trailing Gwynedd Mercy at the half 38-32

Brandon Johnson with 11 points and 3 rebounds to lead the Cardinals. Isaiah Hill with 7.
Cards need to get Jon Patron involved.

Gwynedd Mercy made 8 three pointers the first half. Just what I was afraid might happen. The Griffins are led by Rich Dunham with 14 points. Their 4 guards have each made 2 three pointers.

Need to turn this around quickly at the start of the 2nd period.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2019, 07:36:41 PM
Gwynedd Mercy defeats Plattsburgh State 73-65.

Not a good night shooting the rock for the Cardinals. The Griffins made 14 three pointers, Plattsburgh made 8. They were 11x14 from the line and Plattsburgh was 11x22. That's pretty much your ballgame. The rest of the stats, were basically even.

Still proud of the Cardinals for making the tournament. Always tough when the season comes to an end but a 20 win season and one of only 64 teams to play in the national tournament  means that it was successful year. Good Job Cardinals 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2019, 08:17:46 PM
Oswego leads Salem State 28-26 at the half.

Quinn Carey with 8 points to lead the Lakers.
Brandon Gartland with 6 points.
Tyler Pierre with 6 rebounds and 4 points.


Salem State led by Sean Bryan with 14 points and 5 rebounds.

Lakers turned this game into their tempo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 01, 2019, 10:28:29 PM
Oswego State defeats Salem State 72-59. Good job Lakers

Earlier I said that Oswego was going to win this game 82-69 for a 13 point win. I knew the Laker defense wasn't going to let the Vikings dictate play and their odds of getting their scoring average of 87 points was slim and none. The Lakers make me look like a genius. Thanks guys... a 13 point win right on the money. You were even better than I predicted, going exactly 10 points below each side of my ciphering. Now if only my Cardinals had listened to me. 1 out of 2 ain't bad though. At least the SUNYAC lives for another day.

Tyler Pierre with another double-double of 19 points and 11 rebounds despite fouling out with a questionable call with 5:17 left in the game and the Lakers up by 4 points.

Quinn Carey had another night with 4 three  pointers and finished with 17 points. He added 6 rebounds, 3 steals, a block and 1 assist.

Joe Sullivan had 11 points, 3 rebounds an assist and a steal.

Liam Sanborn had 10 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists a block and a steal.

Brandon Gartland had 9 points, a rebounds, 2 assists ,2 steals and a block

Lakers got some quality minutes from Allen Durutovic at various points of the game but especially when he replaced Joe Sullivan who got banged up and left with an injury with 13 minutes remaining in the game.

After Tyler fouled out, Joe returned to the game and twenty seconds later Liam Sanborn made a nice drive and scored on a layup to put the Lakers up by 6 points. Fifteen seconds after that, Allen was fouled and made a pair of free throws to increase the lead to 8 points. Twenty seconds later Allen then got a steal, which led to another foul by the Vikings that sent Liam to the line. He made both shots to make it a double digit lead and the Vikings could never recover. Allen had  26 minutes in court time tonight to give the starters some much needed breaks. He scored 6 points, had 4 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 assists and a block. The guys were hurting  down the stretch.... bumped and bruised pretty good from a very physical game. I don't think Joe Sullivan comes back in that game if Tyler Pierre finishes. Losing Tyler came at a critical point in the game. Every one of the Lakers on the floor from that moment on played their hearts out.  Hope the ride continues tomorrow against Bald Wally.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 02, 2019, 10:51:35 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2019, 05:18:22 PM
NCAA Tournament Round Two  March 2nd Winner Advances to the Sweet Sixteen

Baldwin-Wallace  @  Oswego State   7:00 PM

The Lakers had to grind out a win last night in a physical game that may have some repercussions in today's contest. Tonight's opponent, the Baldwin-Wallace Yellow Jackets, advanced to Round Two with a 75-61 win over Salisbury. Bald-Wally grabbed the lead midway through the first half and maintained a comfortable margin for the rest of the game. They were up by 15 points with 12:43 left n the game and coasted to the finish line. Their starting unit didn't have to play the minutes that the Lakers did and that may be a factor in this game. Oswego has used a short bench all year and the team has proven it can handle that work load but regular season games, many times, don't carry the same weight, as two pressure packed back to backs in the NCAA Tournament.

The Yellow Jackets were the winners of the tough Ohio Atlhletic Conference after a 5th place regular season finish with an 11-7 league record, 17-8 overall. Like the SUNYAC it is a 10 team league but the top 8 teams make their conference tournament (like ours used to do, and should still do, but that's another story). As the #5 seed they played the #4 seed, Wilmington, and won that game by a 74-71 score and put them up against the top seed, Capital. They defeated Capital 81-67 and met the #2 seed Mount Union in the Championship game . They defeated the Purple Raiders by a score of 79-78 to win the OAC title and automatic bid to the big dance. The #1 seed Capital Crusaders 20-7, and the #3 seed Marietta Pioneers 20-6,  both got Pool C at large bids to the NCAA tournament, while #2 seed Mount Union 22-6 got to stay home . They can't be too happy about that considering they made it to the Championship game of the OAC and the other two didn't. All three OAC teams won their first round games last night. In addition to Baldwin-Wallace, Capital defeated UW-Platteville 78-76  and Marietta beat Maryville (Tenn) 101-77. The Lakers will have a tough game tonight and they will need to maximize their possessions, limit the turnovers and play great defense. Especially defending the 3 point line.

Baldwin-Wallace seems to live by the three and die by the three. They have made 310 three point field goals this year. They have taken 848 three point shots. That's 46.9% of their shots from the field. Many of their losses were in games with poor numbers from long range, and many of their wins had almost as many made three pointers as regular field goals. The Yellow Jackets are led by 6'2" Jr. Guard Jay Battle, who averages 18.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg and 3.1 apg.  He is paired in the backcourt with Mike Quiring, a 5'9" Jr. Guard averaging 10.1 ppg, 2.7 rpg and 3.3 apg. Battle as made 85 three pointers and Quiring has made 43. The other 3 starters are two more guards and  6'6" Jr. Forward Tyler Colombo. Colombo averages 9.5 ppg and 5.3 rpg. The team has a solid 9 man rotation so their starters average between 26 to 31 minutes per game.

The Yellow Jackets average 78.7 ppg and give up 71.1 ppg. They shoot 45.5% from the field, 36.6% from long range and 66.1% from the line. They average 37.6 rpg and the opponents get 35.7 rpg.

The oddsmakers have made the Yellow Jackets a 4 point favorite in this game. I think the Lakers will be hard pressed to pull this one out but I'm hoping they can apply enough defensive pressure to turn the tables. I look for a low scoring, close game with Oswego coming out on top by a 71-68 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2019, 07:44:07 PM
Oswego State leads Baldwin Wallace 37-34 ay the half.

Liam Sanborn with 13 points to lead the Lakers. Brandon Gartland with 10 points. Tyler Pierrre with 6 points and 6 boards.

Jat Battle with 10 points to lead the Yellow Jackets.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2019, 09:03:46 PM
Oswego State 75  Baldwin Wallace 71 in Overtime
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on March 02, 2019, 10:29:53 PM
well done, Lakers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on March 02, 2019, 10:45:36 PM
I think it is pretty crazy the Lakers just play 6 guys and 3 of the starters play all 40 (or 45, in tonights case) minutes. Survive and advance, play your best guys, I like it.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2019, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 02, 2019, 10:45:36 PM
I think it is pretty crazy the Lakers just play 6 guys and 3 of the starters play all 40 (or 45, in tonights case) minutes. Survive and advance, play your best guys, I like it.

This one was a breeze for those guys, Smitty. Last week on Friday night in the SUNYAC semifinals they played a double overtime game against Oneonta and 3 guys played 50 minutes, 1 guy played 45 minutes and the 5th guy "only" played 38 minutes because he was in foul trouble early. The 6th man got 17 minutes. Then on Saturday afternoon they came back and the 5 starters played all but a total of 3 minutes in that game.  Their bench has been pretty short for the last 5 games...all victories.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2019, 02:28:30 PM
Oswego State 75  Baldwin Wallace 71 in Overtime

Another great defensive performance by the Lakers as they advanced to the Sweet Sixteen and keep the SUNYAC Conference alive in the Big Dance. Back to back tough, grind it out games, that produced a W in each case. How you could ask for more? (Well I could wish it was my Cardinals doing the damage but that's just a minor issue.) At least the Lakers pay attention to my predictions as they almost put up the 71-68 score I had them winning by in my earlier post.

Once again. like the double OT game against Oneonta last weekend, the Lakers' starters went from beginning to end in this one as well. I think Coach Leone really has a handful of Energizer Bunnies, dressed like humans, because these guys really do take their licks and just keep coming back. And they were still playing great defense in the extra session allowing only  5 points to the Yellow Jackets. I was really worried at the end of regulation when the scored was tied at 66 and Bald Wally had the ball with 32 seconds left. I could see them scoring with no time left for the Lakers to get their chance. Fortunately the long 3 pointer their star took was off the mark and the game went to OT. Again there was some heavy sweating going on, first when the Yellow Jackets went to the line with a chance to take the lead, with 59 seconds left, but only made 1 of 2 that left the game tied at 70. Needing to score on their next possession I was praying for a 3 so the Yellow Jackets couldn't win at the buzzer but as the shot clock wound down Liam Sanborn dribbled into the lane, put a spin move on his defender and banked a jumper off the glass for the last field goal of the game. That was 3 seconds after the Lakers' play by play announcer said "we need to play smart, use some screens, get somebody open and take an easy shot"....yeah right! I think he beat my Cardinals with a variation of that same shot back on January 18th with 4 seconds left in the game.  He hit that shot with exactly 30 seconds left to play, so now the Lakers had to prevent the 3 pointer, and not foul when the Yellow Jackets were taking a 3 pointer. I actually didn't mind when the Lakers' Tyler Pierre fouled a Yellow Jacket as he attempted a game tying layup with 15 seconds to go. That player was just 1x7 from the line at the time and the Yellow Jackets as a team missed a lot of free throws all night. They missed the first one and made the second one but unless they came up with a steal would have to foul. The biggest inbounds pass of the season was about to take place. General Joe Sullivan took the ball out, ran along the baseline and delivered the inbounds pass to Brandon Gartland who immediately passed it back to Sullivan. Sullivan passed it over to Sanborn but was fouled doing so and went to the line with 12 ticks left. He made both free throws to put Oswego up by 3 points. Baldwin Wallace rushed down court and quickly fired up a three, perhaps a little too quickly. It was off the mark and Sanborn got the rebound and was fouled with 4 seconds remaining. He made the first and that's all he needed to do. The Lakers had advanced to the Sweet Sixteen.

The Lakers played great defense, especially in overtime, as the 2-3 zone was working well against the opponents. The Yellow Jackets shot slightly below their season averages from the field and from long distance. They only made 9 three pointers, which is telling because 6 of their 9 losses came when they made 9 or less triples. They normally shoot 76.6% from the line but on Saturday they were only 10x23 (43.5%) If they shot their average they would have won this game by 4 or more  points. Oswego handled them on the boards 46-31, and 14 of those rebounds were off the offensive glass, which led to 22 second chance points...twice as many as the Yellow Jackets had. Oswego outshot them from the field, 47.5% to 43.3% and from the line as the Lakers made 13x20 (65.0%) from the stripe. None were bigger than the pair Sullivan made with 12 seconds left. Oswego struggled from behind the arc tonight as they only went 4x16, but the inside game with Tyler Pierre, Sullivan and Sanborn was the primary focus of the offense. The Lakers scored 62 points on field goals and 42 of those points came in the paint. Oswego had 10 turnovers and Baldwin Wallace had 5 (You can't win em all).

Liam Sanborn had 20 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.

Brandon Gartland had 20 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks and was 3x5 from downtown.

Tyler Pierre had another double-double of 14 points and 16 rebounds, He added a block and 1 assist.

Joe Sullivan just missed a double-double. He had 12 points, 9 reb. and 2 assists.  He was 4x6 from the field and 4x6 from the stripe.

Allen Durutovic came off the bench to contribute 9 rebounds, 4 points and a steal in 23 minutes on the court.

Quinn Carey added 5 points and a key 3 pointer that broke a 41 all tie and put the Lakers back in front.


Kyle Nader was the top scorer for Baldwin Wallace. He had a double-double of 18 points and 10 rebounds.

Jay Battle had 17 points and 4 rebounds.

Michael Quiring had 13 points and  Luke Schaefer had 11.


The Lakers will now move on to face the Marietta College Pioneers, located in Marietta, Ohio who came out of the same conference that Baldwin Wallace belongs to, the Ohio Athletic Conference. Marietta was the #3 seed in that conference and they were upset by the     #6 seed, John Carroll, in the quarterfinals of their conference tournament.   They advanced to the Sweet Sixteen by defeating the  Maryville (Tenn.) Scots 101-77 in the first round and on Saturday beat Acadia University 88-76.

During the regular season Marietta beat Baldwin Wallace twice. At home 87-68 and on the road 71-65.

Marietta will come into the matchup with Oswego sporting a 22-6 record. They have a loss to non-conference opponent Elmhurst out of the CCIW conference by a score of 76-72 on a neutral court. Their other 5 losses have all been to conference opponents. Twice to Capital along with losses to Mount Union, Wilmington and John Carroll.

It will be another tough game for the Lakers and it wouldn't surprise me to see Marietta as the host of the next round. The four teams who will play in that sectional will be Marietta, Augustana (Ill), Wheaton College (Ill) and Oswego. With 2 colleges in Illinois 1 in Ohio and 1 in NY,  calculations using the NCAA mileage chart show that no matter who hosts the Sectional round two teams will be over 500 miles. Supposedly that means two plane trips no matter who the host is. That is unless the NCAA cuts off a couple of miles because Wheaton to Marietta is 503 miles (or 502 if you're going from Marietta to Wheaton ;D)  Marietta and Oswego ae both well over the mileage to Augustana (603 for Marietta and 824 for Oswego) so that would seem to eliminate Augustana. Wheaton and Augustana are both well over the 500 mile limit to get to Oswego. (701 for Wheaton and 826 for Augustana) so that would seem to eliminate Oswego. Marietta and Oswego are both over 500 miles to Wheaton (502 for Marietta and 702 for Oswego) Now if you put Marietta on a bus because they find a 499 mile route instead of 502 miles then Wheaton will be the host and Oswego gets to fly. Or they can turn that round and put Wheaton (503)  and Oswego (483) on buses to Marietta and fly in Augustana (604).  I'm thinking they go with Marietta. That's the worst situation for Oswego. It means a long bus ride...almost the longest one possible and a game against the host team. I'm going to root for Wheaton or Augustana to be selected but I'm betting that won't happen. If they selected it on merit it would probably be Augustana.

Oswego is listed as a 10 point underdog if Marietta is the host. THey are a 6 point dog if they play on a neutral court.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 03, 2019, 02:52:29 PM
The host for the Sectional has been decided and it is Augustana. I got my wish. The Lakers can be a big time team as they get to fly to Augustana (at least I think they do).  Much better than a 7 hour bus ride and you get to play your opponent on a neutral court.

Here's a link to Augustana's website:

https://athletics.augustana.edu/news/2019/3/3/mens-basketball-carver-to-host-ncaa-division-iii-sectional.aspx




Here's a link to the last time (I think) a SUNYAC school played on Augustana's court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWol056MVcc
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 03, 2019, 10:18:38 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: With Age Comes Wisdom? on March 04, 2019, 08:03:27 AM
The Magicman knows his stuff.  Hope the Lakers can pull off some upsets and keep the only team from the east alive!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: With Age Comes Wisdom? on March 04, 2019, 08:04:40 AM
Also forgot to mention congratulations to Magicman's Cards on another excellent season!! ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 05, 2019, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on March 04, 2019, 08:03:27 AM
The Magicman knows his stuff.  Hope the Lakers can pull off some upsets and keep the only team from the east alive!!

Technically speaking, Hamilton is right in the heart of New York State, so we (meaning me) consider them in the East when it suits our fancy. And at this moment it suits our fancy. ;D Anyway they were in the East Region when they were in the Liberty League. They changed leagues but they didn't move the college. 

Hamilton is a team that's in Northern New York, coached by a man who used to coach Clarkson and Oswego State, both in Northern New York. He  also played basketball in high school in Northern New York and also played in college at DII Lemoyne, in Northern New York. Can't get more East Region than that. ;) 

And I know that you know all of this stuff. ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: With Age Comes Wisdom? on March 07, 2019, 05:13:32 AM
You know how I feel for certain about the CONTS and in particular the only Father/Son duo to score 2000 points in their high school career that I know of...  We (meaning you and me) can make Hamilton an honorary "beast from the east" and who is going to be the wiser? ;D ::)



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2019, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: With Age Comes Wisdom? on March 07, 2019, 05:13:32 AM
You know how I feel for certain about the CONTS and in particular the only Father/Son duo to score 2000 points in their high school career that I know of...  We (meaning you and me) can make Hamilton an honorary "beast from the east" and who is going to be the wiser? ;D ::)

Exactly! 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2019, 05:30:48 PM
Friday March 8th NCAA Sweet Sixteen

Oswego State  vs  Marietta   at  Augustana College in Rock Island, Illinois Game Time  6:30.

The Lakers will have to play one of their best games of the season, tonight, if they want to take another step forward in the NCAA Tournament. The Marietta Pioneers are favored to win this game by 7 points. I'm sure hoping the experts are wrong. Marietta has a deeper bench than Oswego, as they have 12 guys getting double digit minutes. They like to bring in several of their best players off the bench, trying to match them up with the other teams 2nd unit. That strategy won't work well against Oswego, since the Lakers will only use a 6 man rotation, unless injury or foul trouble dictate otherwise. Oswego's defensive effort will be the key to this game. The Lakers held the first two opponents they faced in the tournament, below their season average which falls in line with what Oswego has done all season. 12 times they've held opponents to 60 points or less and 21 times they have kept the opposing total below 70.     

Marietta is averaging 84.8 ppg and allowing 72.4 ppg. so the Lakers will need to reverse those numbers as best they can. Because the Pioneers have such a large rotation no one averages more than 11.7 ppg or 5.6 rpg, but they have a bunch of players that can put up 20 points on any given night. They have had 7 different players be the high scorer in games this season and 9 different players be the leading rebounder.

Marietta is from the OAC which is where the Lakers' opponent, Baldwin Wallace, was from, last Saturday. Hopefully Oswego learned a thing or two about that conference and can take it into this game. I'm obviously looking through a pair of green tinted glasses but feel that Oswego has a game here, that they can win. They need to be hitting a decent percentage of their shots from long range to get that win and Tyler Pierre, along Joe Sullivan, need to stay out of foul trouble. Marietta has a host of quick guards, so I'm hoping that Liam Sanborn is quicker than any of them.  I'll take Oswego to win this one in grind it out fashion....67-64. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2019, 07:15:41 PM
Marietta leads Oswego State 37-35 at the half.

Lakers got 14 points from Liam Sanborn who has made some nice shots off drives to the hoop. He is quicker than their guys. Got my wish on that one.

Quinn Carey with 9 points on 3x6 from long distance. Got my wish on that one also. I'll take 50% from 3 point land. keep it up!

Lakers only had 5 fouls called on them in the first half all on different players so nobody is in foul trouble. 3rd wish granted.

The Pioneers got 11 points from Jason Ellis and 5 points from 3 other guys with 8 players already in the scoring column.

Marietta given a basket on a shot that hit the shot clock before dropping through and the refs never called it. Also Tyler Pierre robbed of a basket by a phantom travel call. Lakers would have the lead but for that.


Need to have one more wish granted. Need the W...Go Lakers!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2019, 10:35:25 PM
Oswego loses to Marietta 78-61.


The Lakers were down 48-42 with 15:14 to play in the game when the Pioneers hit a three pointer, a jumper and another three pointer to open up a 14 point lead. Shortly after that Oswego lost their point guard who fouled out with over 10 minutes left to play. It was too much to recover from and they fell behind by 22 points. They fought back to get within 15 but ran out of time.

The Lakers were led by Quinn Carey with 18 points and 5 rebounds.

Liam Sanborn had 14 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

Brandan Gartland had 12 points and 3 rebounds.

Tyler Pierre had another double-double of 11 points and 10 rebounds.

Joe Sullivan had 5 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal.

A great season for Oswego who made the Sweet Sixteen for the 2nd time in 4 years. Would have been nice to make that next level but finishing with a 24-6 record is a pretty good season and one that most schools would love to have.

Congratulations to the Lakers and Coach Leone on another outstanding year. 8-)     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on March 09, 2019, 03:21:55 AM
Good season for the SUNYAC, magicman!  Fun tossing things in here and there on this board.
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2019, 11:35:13 PM
The D3hoops All Region Teams were announced today.

I'm trying to figure out how Plattsburgh State's Jon Patron, the two time SUNYAC Player of the Year and the D3hoops East Region Player of the Year last year, was not named as the D3hoops East Region Player of the Year this season. Instead that award went to Skidmore's Edvinas Rupkus, who is a very good player, but wasn't even the best player on his own team. That distinction belongs to Noah Meren who led Skidmore in points, with 577 (21.4 ppg), and rebounds with 178 (6.6 rpg).

Rupkus had 473 points (17.5 ppg) and 164 rebounds (6.1 rpg). Meren had 82 assists, 44 steals and 27 blocks. Rupkus had 55 assists, 26 steals and 5 blocks. Meren also played more minutes than Rupkus and had a better shooting percentage from the field.

Patron had 620 points (23.0 ppg), 285 rebounds (10.6 rpg), 61 assists, 26 steals and 11 blocks. Jon had 16 double-doubles and just missed 5 more when he had 8 or 9 rebounds instead of 10. Rupkus had 4 double-doubles and 4 more that were close.

Plattsburgh defeated Skidmore when they met  this year and beat the 2nd place Liberty League team as well. Plattsburgh also had a better strength of schedule than Skidmore. The SUNYAC was the top league in the East Region and it wasn't even close, as they were 8-1 overall against the Liberty League and 9-2 overall against the Empire 8 league. Our 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th place teams defeated some of the top teams in the LL and E8.

Every coach I spoke to this year said that Jon Patron was the beast of the East. Teams constantly double teamed him and triple teamed him when he got the ball inside and he still managed to put up his 20+ points a game almost every night. I'll be shaking my head on this decision for quite a while.

Here's the East Region Teams:

Player of the Year: Edvinas Rupkus, Sr., Skidmore

Coach of the Year: Russell Phillips, Alfred

Rookie of the Year: Latrell Carroll, F, Penn State-Berks

First team
       
Pos.   Player   School   Yr.   Hometown
G   Ryan Clamage   Rochester   Sr.   Lake Forest, Ill.
G    Dom LeMorta   Alfred   Sr.   Scotia, N.Y.
G   Edvinas Rupkus   Skidmore   Sr.   Naujoji Akmene, Lithuania
F   Jonathan Patron   Plattsburgh State   Sr.   Huntington, N.Y.
F    Kevin Dennis   Morrisville State   Jr.   Bronx, N.Y.

Second team
       
Pos.   Player   School   Yr.   Hometown
G   Colin Dougherty   Hobart   Sr.   Lockport, N.Y.
G   Tyler Stenglein   Nazareth   Sr.   Rochester, N.Y.
G   Noah Meren   Skidmore   So.   Providence, R.I.
F   Ryan Henderson   St. John Fisher   Sr.   Cazenovia, N.Y.
C   Tyler Pierre   Oswego State   Sr.   Deer Park, N.Y.

Third team
       
Pos.   Player   School   Yr.   Hometown
G   Jacob Wittig   Rochester   Sr.   Manilus, N.Y.
G   Justin Cooper   Cortland   Sr.   Pine Plains, N.Y.
G   Liam Sanborn   Oswego State   So.   Staten Island, N.Y.
F   Riley Naclerio   St. Lawrence   Sr.   Cohoes, N.Y.
F    Justin Summers   Brockport   Jr.   Brooklyn, N.Y.

Congratulations to all the players on great seasons.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on March 12, 2019, 12:27:10 AM
I was also quite shocked by this selection. I bet Patron will be honored by the NABC as player of the region. He was also announced to the All-Star team today, so it has still been a good week for him all things considered!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2019, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 12, 2019, 12:27:10 AM
I was also quite shocked by this selection. I bet Patron will be honored by the NABC as player of the region. He was also announced to the All-Star team today, so it has still been a good week for him all things considered!

Yeah Smitty, I think so as well. He had another outstanding year and leaves Plattsburgh State as the program's all time leading scorer and only played there 3 and a half seasons. Plus he lost a few games when he was injured toward the end of his freshman year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2019, 06:13:58 AM

It's interesting how the voting works sometimes.  I believe Rupkus is also a two-time conference POY; and team performance doesn't really factor in too much.  If it were me, I'd pick Kevin Dennis over both of them.  I imagine UAA POY Ryan Clamage had something to say about the results as well.  Certainly not a two horse race.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on March 12, 2019, 09:02:02 AM
I do not mind using seniority and career accomplishments as a tiebreaker, but previous season stats and awards are not my favorite way to determine this years awards. So, yes I agree Dennis and Clamage are very worthy of Region POTY, more so than Ed Rupkus based on the play this year. Also, team accomplishments for sure should play a role  in voting, and it to the outside viewer, it appears that it plays some sort of role. It is another  good tiebreaker when two players have pretty equal season stats. I know its not a perfect science, but this one was quite the surprise in my eyes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2019, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2019, 06:13:58 AM

It's interesting how the voting works sometimes.  I believe Rupkus is also a two-time conference POY; and team performance doesn't really factor in too much.  If it were me, I'd pick Kevin Dennis over both of them.  I imagine UAA POY Ryan Clamage had something to say about the results as well.  Certainly not a two horse race.

Pretty sure Kevin Dennis wouldn't put up the numbers he did if he played in the SUNYAC. Morrisville is 3-10 against the SUNYAC since they left to join the NEAC. And yes one of those 3 wins was against Brockport in the NCAA tournament but Brockport's All American, Jon Ivy, never played in that game, as he was injured during the latter part of the regular season. The reason they left the YAC, along with SUNYIT, was to be a big fish in a small pond and make the playoffs. They were 2-30 in the 2 years they were in the conference.

And you're right Ryan it wasn't a two horse race. Jon Patron was so far out in front of the others he looked like Secretariat at the Belmont Stakes leaving Sham and the also rans 31 lengths behind. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 13, 2019, 09:36:36 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 12, 2019, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2019, 06:13:58 AM

It's interesting how the voting works sometimes.  I believe Rupkus is also a two-time conference POY; and team performance doesn't really factor in too much.  If it were me, I'd pick Kevin Dennis over both of them.  I imagine UAA POY Ryan Clamage had something to say about the results as well.  Certainly not a two horse race.

Pretty sure Kevin Dennis wouldn't put up the numbers he did if he played in the SUNYAC. Morrisville is 3-10 against the SUNYAC since they left to join the NEAC. And yes one of those 3 wins was against Brockport in the NCAA tournament but Brockport's All American, Jon Ivy, never played in that game, as he was injured during the latter part of the regular season. The reason they left the YAC, along with SUNYIT, was to be a big fish in a small pond and make the playoffs. They were 2-30 in the 2 years they were in the conference.

And you're right Ryan it wasn't a two horse race. Jon Patron was so far out in front of the others he looked like Secretariat at the Belmont Stakes leaving Sham and the also rans 31 lengths behind. :D

It's true, you have to adjust the stats for the schedule, but he did put up 16 and 12 against R-MC in the tournament, while getting doubled a lot of time.  He's a talented kid, as is Patron... and Rupkus... and Clamage.  Patron's going to benefit when it comes to AA because he's a forward (and there's just less competition there), so that may provide some vindication.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 13, 2019, 01:53:19 PM

Glad to see the coach's backed up our panel as well.  Also glad you're going to war for your guy; that's the right thing to do.


http://nabc.com/nabc_releases/2019/diii_all_district
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2019, 02:54:10 PM
As Ryan said, Patron a very worthy candidate and will almost certainly be an All-America selection.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 27, 2019, 09:53:39 AM
What are the early projections for next season? Plattsburgh loses a ton. Oswego loses two of their top four. Cortland loses their top two. Oneonta returns everyone. Brockport reutrns a lot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 27, 2019, 04:06:26 PM
Greek,

I'd hop on Oneonta or Brockport's bandwagon. Can't count out Oswego as Coach Leone keeps finding talent  And Buffalo State, the best 16 loss team in the country, will return just abut everyone.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 27, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
Returning in 19-20, 'Port has a first teamer in Summers and a Third Team is Hagins, plus Ashley, the ROY in the conference.

Oneonta has Bull and Mackin, a potent inside outside combination.

Oswego has Sanborn, and never count out a team with a gifted lead guard, and Gartland to complement him.

I think everyone else will have to catch up to those three teams.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on April 03, 2019, 08:32:43 AM
Any word is Brockport's Tyler Collins is returning. He only played 8 games last season. He's listed as a senior.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 05, 2019, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on April 03, 2019, 08:32:43 AM
Any word is Brockport's Tyler Collins is returning. He only played 8 games last season. He's listed as a senior.

He will be back.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 25, 2019, 01:55:02 AM
Next year the Men's D3 and D2 championship games will be played in Atlanta on the same weekend as the D1 championship game. Here's the link to the story that was posted on D3hoops' front page: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/04/joint-championships-announced
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on April 27, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
major congrats to New Paltz, men's volleyball Division III national champions for the second time in the last four years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 29, 2019, 03:48:47 AM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on April 27, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
major congrats to New Paltz, men's volleyball Division III national champions for the second time in the last four years.

Thanks for the heads up CB. Would have never known that.

Here's the link to the story in case anyone is interested.

https://nphawks.com/news/2019/4/27/suny-new-paltz-mens-volleyball-crowned-ncaa-national-champions.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on May 13, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
Surprised no one posted the news that Jason Leone's name came up as a finalist at LeMoyne ...

Don't worry ... he's not leaving Oswego. LeMoyne will hire someone else, but it wasn't their first choice.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on June 27, 2019, 11:09:57 AM
Magicman
It's time for you to dust off your high top converse sneakers and get that old warm up suit out of the closet.
Meet the New Head Coach of your Plattsburgh Cardinals MAGICMAN.
Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on June 27, 2019, 12:23:25 PM
I doubt he will replace Curle but I have no doubt that the Magic 1 will have some say so in his replacement!

Best of luck to Tom in his new AD position!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on June 27, 2019, 12:26:48 PM
I bet Plattsburgh wishes now that they made him AD last year. William Peace Is estactic!!

https://gopeacepacers.com/
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on June 27, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
Do they bring Coach Conover back????
The Red Dragons might not like that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on June 28, 2019, 03:55:35 AM
Quote from: All-Time on June 27, 2019, 11:09:57 AM
Magicman
It's time for you to dust off your high top converse sneakers and get that old warm up suit out of the closet.
Meet the New Head Coach of your Plattsburgh Cardinals MAGICMAN.
Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

All-Time,
I wouldn't want to be the coach that has to follow in his footsteps! Large shoes to fill. Besides my last pair of high top converse sneakers lost their soles about 8 years ago and my old warm up suit was thrown away by my ex-wife.


Quote from: Bengalsrule on June 27, 2019, 12:23:25 PM
I doubt he will replace Curle but I have no doubt that the Magic 1 will have some say so in his replacement!

Best of luck to Tom in his new AD position!

Bengalsrule,
I have 2 people in mind for the job and will be happy if either one gets it, but I doubt they'll ask for my input.

Quote from: All-Time on June 27, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
Do they bring Coach Conover back????
The Red Dragons might not like that.

The Red Dragons would not be happy to lose Coach Conover. He has a ton of talent coming back this fall at Oneonta, while Plattsburgh will be in a major rebuilding year. I don't see him making the switch, but what do I know.


Coach Curle called me a while ago to let me know he was leaving and where he was going. Of course I sure hate to see him go but I'm happy for him because he has wanted to be an AD for some time now and moving to North Carolina is right up his alley as he can now play golf year round. ;D

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on June 30, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
So Coach Curle will be in Raleigh near another former Alfred State men's hoop coach, Tom Kaznowsky, who has a small chain of sports bars in the Cary, NC area....The Upper Deck. Raleigh is also new home of Pep Jr. who, ironically, is seeking a high school basketball head coaching position after a successful stint in the AAU circuit with the former Arlington Rockets when he was residing in Falls Church, VA.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on June 30, 2019, 05:15:02 PM
Coach Curle will also be close to Potsdam's National Championship coach Jerry Welsh who lives in the area and teaches basketball coaching at Duke University. Tom played against Jerry during his championship years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on July 01, 2019, 03:18:14 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on June 30, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
So Coach Curle will be in Raleigh near another former Alfred State men's hoop coach, Tom Kaznowsky, who has a small chain of sports bars in the Cary, NC area....The Upper Deck. Raleigh is also new home of Pep Jr. who, ironically, is seeking a high school basketball head coaching position after a successful stint in the AAU circuit with the former Arlington Rockets when he was residing in Falls Church, VA.

Pep,
Sounds like you could be paying Coach Curle a visit at some point in the future since Pep Jr is in the same town. You could renew your acquaintance from Coach Curle's time at Alfred State. You certainly know where to look him up if you're down that way. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on July 01, 2019, 10:46:13 AM
Magicman....seems "we posters" should have a reunion sometime down South....maybe when the D3 title game goes again to Atlanta....next year?  My best man and former basketball watching buddy moved to the Chapel Hill/Durham area from Ct.  Always drop by when my wife and I head to Florida to visit family in Winter Park.  Anyway, will Plattsburgh still try to schedule Nescac schools in Basketball?  Always interesting post between you and my favorite Midd. Posters.  Take care and be good.  Same to AUPep :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on July 01, 2019, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: magicman on July 01, 2019, 03:18:14 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on June 30, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
So Coach Curle will be in Raleigh near another former Alfred State men's hoop coach, Tom Kaznowsky, who has a small chain of sports bars in the Cary, NC area....The Upper Deck. Raleigh is also new home of Pep Jr. who, ironically, is seeking a high school basketball head coaching position after a successful stint in the AAU circuit with the former Arlington Rockets when he was residing in Falls Church, VA.

Pep,
Sounds like you could be paying Coach Curle a visit at some point in the future since Pep Jr is in the same town. You could renew your acquaintance from Coach Curle's time at Alfred State. You certainly know where to look him up if you're down that way. :)

That would be awesome...a blast from the past. Funny, in all his years at Plattsburgh State, never had occasion to see him or his team. But he moves to Raleigh, NC, and the chances of meeting up just increased dramatically.

Still rejoicing at Alfred's nice run to the Dance! Saxons played the best ball Pep had seen since the late 80s squad that Ron Frederes took to the Dance where they topped the Golden Flyers of Nazareth on a half-court buzzer beater, then got intimidated by a tough Potsdam State team in front of a full house on the Bears' court.

A quick look at the AU record book reveals that of 15 basketball coaches, only three have had winning records in Saxonville. Frederes built a pretty solid program and garnered 158 wins, 127 losses in 11 seasons with Roman Catalino going 19-8 during a Frederes one-year sabbatical. The third coach with a winning record is current Coach Russ Phillips, who is a respectable 81-51 after five seasons. With the new found success, Pep is hoping to see AU "up the ante" a bit and work on a more competitive schedule.

A weak non-conference slate does not negate, however, a magical 13-game win streak through the Empire 8 at season end.

On Saxon Warriors!


On Saxon Warriors!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on July 02, 2019, 02:05:02 AM
Quote from: amh63 on July 01, 2019, 10:46:13 AM
Magicman....seems "we posters" should have a reunion sometime down South....maybe when the D3 title game goes again to Atlanta....next year?  My best man and former basketball watching buddy moved to the Chapel Hill/Durham area from Ct.  Always drop by when my wife and I head to Florida to visit family in Winter Park.  Anyway, will Plattsburgh still try to schedule Nescac schools in Basketball?  Always interesting post between you and my favorite Midd. Posters.  Take care and be good.  Same to AUPep :)

amh63,

Hope you are well and enjoying the summer. I wish that we lived in close proximity so a visit every once in a while was possible. Perhaps someday it will happen.

I sure hope that the new Cardinal coach, whoever he turns out to be, will keep Middlebury on the schedule as we've been playing each other for a long time now. The other NESCAC schools we faced were usually in tournament match-ups during the season or NCAA games, like your Amherst Lord Jeffs. (They were the Lord Jeffs not the Mammoths, the last two times we played them. :D) We did play Trinity a couple of times recently during the regular season and I'd like to think that could happen in the future. (Last year we had Wesleyan in a holiday tournament.)

It all depends on the coach. Coach Curle wasn't afraid to play anyone, whether it was on their court or ours. Certain previous coaches we had were more interested in wins and played some teams that were pushovers. I want the next coach to be like Coach Curle and play a good out of conference schedule.

Have a happy Fourth of July!!   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on July 03, 2019, 10:20:16 AM
Magicman
Please give us the inside scoop when you meet with the prospective coaches for the job.
Still think their is nobody more qualified than you.
Very Happy for Curle, he worked very hard along with his assistants in always being at the top of the SUNYAC year after year.
William Peace University is getting a Top Notch Winner in Curle.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on July 04, 2019, 10:51:37 AM
I couldn't agree more. Class act if there ever was 1. William Peace gain is SIUNYACS loss.https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/06/plattsburgh-curle-heads-south

Count me in on Chris Manning for Head Coach sweepstakes!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: middhoops on July 17, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
magicman, sorry to hear of your loss of a golfing buddy.  Coach Curle is a first rate class act and "replacing" him is unrealistic. 
Selfishly, we Middlebury fans just really hope that his successor maintains the tradition of playing your neighbor every year.
And I don't believe no one will ask your advice on this.  No one is more tuned in to the D3 hoops environment in the region than you.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on July 17, 2019, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: middhoops on July 17, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
magicman, sorry to hear of your loss of a golfing buddy.  Coach Curle is a first rate class act and "replacing" him is unrealistic. 
Selfishly, we Middlebury fans just really hope that his successor maintains the tradition of playing your neighbor every year.
And I don't believe no one will ask your advice on this.  No one is more tuned in to the D3 hoops environment in the region than you.

I will do my best to make sure that Middlebury stays on our schedule, regardless of who our new coach is. Something tells me I won't have to do very much lobbying to have that happen, though. The new coach would certainly be missing the boat, to exclude a top D3 program, close to home, from their yearly encounter with the Cardinals. I'm sure whoever gets the job, will be smart enough to realize that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 05, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
Magicman
Any updates on the Plattsburgh Men's basketball search?
With School at month away, I would assume a decision needs to be made soon.
Give us the inside scoop. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 06, 2019, 01:16:16 AM
Quote from: All-Time on August 05, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
Magicman
Any updates on the Plattsburgh Men's basketball search?
With School at month away, I would assume a decision needs to be made soon.
Give us the inside scoop. ;)

My money is on Chris Manning!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 06, 2019, 03:57:15 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on August 06, 2019, 01:16:16 AM
Quote from: All-Time on August 05, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
Magicman
Any updates on the Plattsburgh Men's basketball search?
With School at month away, I would assume a decision needs to be made soon.
Give us the inside scoop. ;)

My money is on Chris Manning!


The search has been narrowed down to a few candidates. That's all I can say at this time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 06, 2019, 01:24:30 PM
The Clock is ticking Gentlemen!!!
The Magicman's lips are sealed  :-X

Let's Go Cardinals, Lets GOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 08, 2019, 03:56:31 AM
Chris Manning
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 13, 2019, 03:56:28 PM
The Anticipation is Killing me Magicman.
Come on already?
Who is coaching the Plattsburgh Cardinals next season  ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 13, 2019, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: All-Time on August 13, 2019, 03:56:28 PM
The Anticipation is Killing me Magicman.
Come on already?
Who is coaching the Plattsburgh Cardinals next season  ???

If it's killing you and you're an Oneonta supporter, what do you think it's doing to me?  Still no word on who it will be. I thought for sure I'd hear something yesterday or today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 14, 2019, 12:40:03 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on August 16, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
Anyone?  Anyone?   :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 16, 2019, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: hopefan on August 16, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
Anyone?  Anyone?   :-\ :-\ :-\

No Anyone here that I know of. He must be on another board. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 18, 2019, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: magicman on August 16, 2019, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: hopefan on August 16, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
Anyone?  Anyone?   :-\ :-\ :-\

No Anyone here that I know of. He must be on another board. :D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 18, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
Classes at Plattsburgh begin 2 weeks from tomorrow. I gotta believe that  a new coach will be announced this week.  A lot of D3 is walk on participation which means an interest meeting as soon as school starts. Someone will have to take the lead on the by August 26th. And since the cards are 1 of if not the preeminent team in Yac, I don't see them handicapping themselves for the sake taking more time for a coaches selection. That's just not, i don't think, the Cards way.  Ladies and gentle men, id like to introduce the newest Cards coach......... Chris... ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 18, 2019, 12:43:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on August 18, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
A lot of D3 is walk on participation which means an interest meeting as soon as school starts.

I don't think that is true in men's basketball. It might be the case if your program is struggling or has had a bad recruiting class, but I'm sure that the vast, vast majority of student-athletes were recruited.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on August 19, 2019, 09:05:57 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 18, 2019, 12:43:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on August 18, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
A lot of D3 is walk on participation which means an interest meeting as soon as school starts.

I don't think that is true in men's basketball. It might be the case if your program is struggling or has had a bad recruiting class, but I'm sure that the vast, vast majority of student-athletes were recruited.

There may still be an interest meeting, though, even if it doesn't result in many/any players.  Not sure what the tradition is at Plattsburgh, but it's probably not a super important thing if they don't have a coach for it.  They waited this long, much more important to get the right person.  It also likely indicates they've got lots of faith in the remaining staff to run things.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 19, 2019, 11:16:36 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 18, 2019, 12:43:20 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on August 18, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
A lot of D3 is walk on participation which means an interest meeting as soon as school starts.

I don't think that is true in men's basketball. It might be the case if your program is struggling or has had a bad recruiting class, but I'm sure that the vast, vast majority of student-athletes were recruited.

I should have referenced  (with my knowledge of what transpires within  SUNYAC teams the past 13 seasons), that in the SUNYAC interest meetings ( for Public Institutions) are not a small thing. Speaking solely on YAC !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 21, 2019, 12:41:34 PM
It's Hump day and still no word on who is coaching the Plattsburgh Cardinals.
If Chris Manning is their guy they should have announced it already.
Why do they always think someone from the outside is better than someone they already have.
I'm starting to think the people in charge can't make a decision.
Things that make you go HUMMMMMMM.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on August 22, 2019, 08:46:22 AM

Or maybe the NY public employment system makes this an excruciating long, but ironcladly legislated process?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on August 22, 2019, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on August 22, 2019, 08:46:22 AM

Or maybe the NY public employment system makes this an excruciating long, but ironcladly legislated process?

That isn't the problem, Ryan. There are other factors holding up this decision, which I'm not at liberty to discuss. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ucaafan on August 24, 2019, 11:14:40 PM
Head Coach position for school was just reposted yesterday on HigherEd jobs. ???
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ucaafan on August 25, 2019, 09:20:25 AM
https://www.higheredjobs.com/clickthru/redirect.cfm?JobCode=177075592
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 26, 2019, 10:33:25 AM
Wow
Has that ever happened before???
It better be a Big name hire after all this.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 26, 2019, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: All-Time on August 26, 2019, 10:33:25 AM
Wow
Has that ever happened before???
It better be a Big name hire after all this.

Its not a good look (IMHO) for the program!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 27, 2019, 10:19:01 AM
I still think they are waiting for the Magicman to reconsider their offer.
There is nobody more qualified than him.
Come on Magicman, I will send you a new Bright Red warm-up suit and a Beautiful pair of Chuck Taylor Black high top converse.
Please, Please, Please take the job!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 27, 2019, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: All-Time on August 27, 2019, 10:19:01 AM
I still think they are waiting for the Magicman to reconsider their offer.
There is nobody more qualified than him.
Come on Magicman, I will send you a new Bright Red warm-up suit and a Beautiful pair of Chuck Taylor Black high top converse.
Please, Please, Please take the job!!!!  ;D

All Time, from the sound of things, it may be a while before the Cards have a coach. Magic can explain!  Not Pretty!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on August 28, 2019, 03:03:35 PM
Certainly not pretty!!!!

I actually think the Magicman is going to become an Oneonta Red Dragon Fan.
I know his heart is with the Potsdam Bears but he is a Big fan of Coach Conover.
We all know How good he will look in that Red warm-up suit I bought him.
I'm just going to change the logo on the back to a BIG RED DRAGON and get rid of that measly little Cardinal that was on it.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on August 29, 2019, 08:31:07 AM
Quote from: All-Time on August 28, 2019, 03:03:35 PM
Certainly not pretty!!!!

I actually think the Magicman is going to become an Oneonta Red Dragon Fan.
I know his heart is with the Potsdam Bears but he is a Big fan of Coach Conover.
We all know How good he will look in that Red warm-up suit I bought him.
I'm just going to change the logo on the back to a BIG RED DRAGON and get rid of that measly little Cardinal that was on it.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Lol  You may be closer to right than you think. My magic guy aint too happy with the current events. I don't imagine Coach Curle is either (Manning took a D2 job in Vermont)!Don't want to speak out of turn but after Plattsburgh passed on making Curle AD last year ( you see how well that worked out for the Cards). And now manning is gone too, it aint looking good for the cards!! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 04, 2019, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on August 29, 2019, 08:31:07 AM

Manning took a D2 job in Vermont.

Chris Manning is now the Assistant Coach for Division II St. Michael's Men's Basketball team. Their 2019-20 roster has been posted.

https://www.smcathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/roster


That's not the only school that wanted to hire him either. Sadly, his alma mater, where he was All-Conference in multiple years and went to the NCAA tournament several times as a player and several more times as an assistant to retired Coach Tom Curle, didn't think he was ready for a head coaching position.  ???  :o  >:(  I know one thing.... Coach Curle sure thought he was ready to lead the Cardinals and is extremely disappointed that Chris is not following in his footsteps at Plattsburgh.

I'm also quite disappointed that Chris wasn't given the chance to coach the Cardinals. It's a double dose for me because I lost my favorite coach when Coach Curle took the AD job at William Peace University and now the guy I thought would be the coach and should be, was not hired. I'm not sure how much time I'll invest into SUNYAC basketball this season.   
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on September 05, 2019, 10:52:26 AM
This is breaking news about the Magicman.
For anyone who has followed the SUNYAC over the years, can't wait to go on the boards to read the Magicman's analysis on the games.
This man is a Legend.
For him to say he doesn't know how much time he will invest in the SUNYAC this season is Breaking News.
This guy knows more about basketball than anyone I have ever spoken to.

Plattsburgh's first mistake was not hiring Coach Curle when he applied for the Athletic Director's job a few years ago.
This man is a class act and a proven winner, He put Plattsburgh on the map as one of the best D3 basketball programs in the country.
For them to not hire him as the Athletic Director is mind boggling.
What the heck were they thinking about????

Now they are in a position where they don't know what to do.
Things that make you go HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 05, 2019, 09:44:52 PM
Breaking News ... I'm taking the Plattsburgh job ... figured, why not?!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 06, 2019, 01:41:25 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 05, 2019, 09:44:52 PM
Breaking News ... I'm taking the Plattsburgh job ... figured, why not?!

Someone must have hacked into Dave McHugh's D3hoops identity, because this is fake news. If D-Mac had taken the job, there would have been a big story on the front page of D3hoops.com. I checked the front page and there was no "breaking news".
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 06, 2019, 02:11:23 PM
Oh magicman - please tell me you didn't take me seriously. LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 06, 2019, 11:38:00 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 06, 2019, 02:11:23 PM
Oh magicman - please tell me you didn't take me seriously. LOL

I didn't, but was hoping my reply made you think I did!  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: nyhoopstalk on September 12, 2019, 10:28:48 AM
Any news on Plattsburgh yet? I'm sure those in the know have a clue on what's going on but being outside of the circle, I find it very interesting that a good job like Plattsburgh is still open with a month left until the season starts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 12, 2019, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: nyhoopstalk on September 12, 2019, 10:28:48 AM
Any news on Plattsburgh yet? I'm sure those in the know have a clue on what's going on but being outside of the circle, I find it very interesting that a good job like Plattsburgh is still open with a month left until the season starts.

Phone interviews with 3 applicants were conducted this past Sunday. I have heard nothing new since then. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 13, 2019, 02:55:11 PM
Down to four finalists. Three are head coaches in DIII another is an assistant in DIII.

Who knows where this goes ... it's been a mess so far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on September 15, 2019, 12:08:15 PM
Pity the school who potentially loses their head coach 3 or weeks before Oct 15.....
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on September 18, 2019, 05:33:41 AM
Quote from: hopefan on September 15, 2019, 12:08:15 PM
Pity the school who potentially loses their head coach 3 or weeks before Oct 15.....

Hope it's Brockport ( it's a Buff State....you wouldn't understand), other than Magic/ All time
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on September 18, 2019, 01:43:20 PM
News Flash:

There might be a coach available that is taking a sabbatical this season, maybe he wants to come up to North Country and Coach the Plattsburgh Cardinals.

Oh Magicman, Come Out, Come Out wherever you are.
Let the Committee Know.

Oh that's right your now an Oneonta Red Dragon fan!!!!!

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 19, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
Pllattsburgh State is holding interviews this week with 4 candidates from which they will choose a head coach for the Men's Basketball Team. All of them are head coaches or have been a head coach. Three of them do not have very good coaching records. In fact combined they have very few winning seasons. The 4th coach is from a college that's a member of the Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference (AMCC) He has an overall record at that school of 84-55 and would be a pretty good fit to coach at Plattsburgh.

He's certainly my choice to coach the Cardinals and I'm hoping that the persons that are doing this hire also feel the same way.
Looking into my crystal ball I believe he will get the job because he's the best applicant with the best qualifications. However my Cardinals were in this position over 2 months ago and that committee failed to make the right choice then, so there's no guarantee the college will make the right choice this time. Hopefully the new committee will have more common sense than the last committee. ::)

I expect the college will have their new coach by Monday, September 23rd or sooner.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on September 19, 2019, 04:09:21 PM
Twitter says Plattsburgh just hired thier basketball coach. I'll let Magicman reveal who it is!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 19, 2019, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on September 19, 2019, 04:09:21 PM
Twitter says Plattsburgh just hired thier basketball coach. I'll let Magicman reveal who it is!

Take what HoopDirt and Adam Nelson say with a grain of salt.

I will say I am quite sure they have hired, but Adam likes to do this to fish out sources who will reveal info whenever they can and at whatever cost.

And I will say more when I can. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on September 20, 2019, 10:17:03 AM
The Stars are aligned again.  ;)

The Magicman is Happy with the selection.
Out of the 4 candidates the COMMITTEE finally selected the right 1.

The COMMITTEE though, doesn't get a pass for not selecting Chris Manning as their head coach.

Really thought I could convince the Magicman to be wearing Oneonta RED with me this season.

Wishing the players on the Plattsburgh Cardinals all the best this season.
Let the Games begin!!!!!


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 20, 2019, 07:49:12 PM
Plattsburgh State has made it official and named Mike Blaine the next head coach for the Men's Basketball program. Congratulations to Coach Blaine and welcome to the Cardinal program. I sincerely hope he will be able to continue the success at Plattsburgh that former coach Tom Curle brought to the Cardinals in his 16 years heading the program.

Coach Blaine has had great success at Medaille College which is a member of the Allegheny Mountain Athletic Conference. He has spent the last 5 years at Medaille and has taken the Mavericks to post season play in 4 of those years including 2 trips to the NCAA tournament. His record there was 84-55. He is also a coach that isn't afraid to schedule non-conference opponents that are quality teams with strong programs.

He was also an assistant coach at several Division I programs before he got the head coaching job at Medaille.

Here is a link to the Plattsburgh State news release that was put up earlier today announcing his hire:

https://gocardinalsports.com/news/2019/9/20/mike-blaine-named-head-mens-basketball-coach-at-plattsburgh-state.aspx

Welcome to Plattsurgh State, Cardinal Country, and the SUNYAC, Coach Blaine!!!     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 24, 2019, 12:42:47 AM
Blaine also played basketball at Johns Hopkins and has been a finalist for a number of jobs the last few off seasons including Moravian a few weeks ago.

He fell into Plattsburgh's lap. He probably should have gone to a few schools far sooner.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on September 24, 2019, 02:30:50 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on September 24, 2019, 12:42:47 AM
Blaine also played basketball at Johns Hopkins and has been a finalist for a number of jobs the last few off seasons including Moravian a few weeks ago.

He fell into Plattsburgh's lap. He probably should have gone to a few schools far sooner.

The fact that Coach Blaine is 6'8" tall and was a center for Johns Hopkins should be extremely beneficial to a young Cardinals' team. Plattsburgh lost 5 senior starters off last year's team that finished in 2nd place in the SUNYAC's  regular season.  Plattsburgh has 6'11" sophomore center, Taylor Mason, returning, and brought in a 6'10" freshman to give the Cardinals a pair of big men that can only benefit from the experience of a head coach that was a DIII center back in his playing days.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: hopefan on September 24, 2019, 09:57:22 AM
A slight leak in the bubble of the announcement of Coach Blaine's hiring is that much of that very strong 5 year w-l record was built up against the relatively weak competition in the AMCC conference... his record out of conference was 15-25... his record against the AMCC's best team, Penn St - Behrend was 3-9...that means his overall record was built up by a 66-21 record vs the rest of the AMCC... and for those not in the know, I'd think the AMCC would be rated a bottom 20% in D3

On the other hand, assuming the kids at the different AMCC schools have a similar level of skills coming into school, it does mean that Coach Blaine certainly competed and won at that level.... however, he'll have to prove himself at the large step up that Sunyac schools present vs his new team at Plattsburgh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on September 24, 2019, 10:09:43 AM
According to Massey, there are 48 D-III conferences listed [not all have AQ's]. 

AMCC as of the end of last year is ranked 38th out of 48, so 21st percentile.

By comparison, SUNYAC is ranked 20th.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on September 25, 2019, 01:04:46 PM
Just Happy the Magicman is BACK on the Boards. :)
Looking forward to reading his Incredible break downs of all the games.

Lets go Cardinals.
Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on October 29, 2019, 01:32:26 PM
Oswego highest of all Others Receiving Votes with 83, 10 shy of #25 St. John Fisher; Oneonta 5 votes and Brockport got 2.

https://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2019-20/preseason
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on October 29, 2019, 01:44:47 PM
The ranking are based on last years records, not accounting for lost players who played major roles in their teams success.
But overall a great group of basketball teams.
It should be a wild year in D3 hoops.

Still waiting for the Magicman to appear on the boards to give us his take on the 2019-2020 season.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 29, 2019, 02:29:24 PM
Quote from: All-Time on October 29, 2019, 01:44:47 PM
The ranking are based on last years records, not accounting for lost players who played major roles in their teams success.


This may be true for some, but the vast majority of voters utilize data we receive for THIS YEAR's squad on each of these teams to make our picks.  Pat is very thorough in reminding voters that people have graduated and coaches have moved on.  I think this is the best preseason poll we've had in a while on this respect.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 29, 2019, 03:18:22 PM
I see Ryan did a good job handling this claim already, but yes -- I actually do feel the voters did a pretty good job taking player losses into account, hence Whitman and Wheaton with some big changes, the defending champ not No. 1, etc.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on October 29, 2019, 03:53:13 PM
Would never question the D3 Experts.
This is the Best basketball web site around.
You guys do an incredible job.
I must have lost my head for a few minutes.  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 29, 2019, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: All-Time on October 29, 2019, 03:53:13 PM
Would never question the D3 Experts.
This is the Best basketball web site around.
You guys do an incredible job.
I must have lost my head for a few minutes.

To be fair, what you said would certainly ring more true in the past.  Pat's done a good job increasing the integrity of the poll.  I often question how high the NESCAC and UAA schools are, seemingly by default, but when I went to do my ballot this year, they ended up pretty high on mine, too.  There were a lot of losses from last season - it just so happens the two national finalists bring a lot back.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPepBand on October 30, 2019, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 29, 2019, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: All-Time on October 29, 2019, 03:53:13 PM
Would never question the D3 Experts.
This is the Best basketball web site around.
You guys do an incredible job.
I must have lost my head for a few minutes.

To be fair, what you said would certainly ring more true in the past.  Pat's done a good job increasing the integrity of the poll.  I often question how high the NESCAC and UAA schools are, seemingly by default, but when I went to do my ballot this year, they ended up pretty high on mine, too.  There were a lot of losses from last season - it just so happens the two national finalists bring a lot back.

The fact that Alfred did not receive any votes, while St. John Fisher, which the Saxons defeated three times last year, is #25, is a good indication that these rankings are NOT based on last year's results. AU graduated LaMorta, Brown and Stopera...Pep thinks this poll is as good as could be expected.

Incidentally, Saxons will meet new opponents this season in Westfield State, U. Mount Union and Kenyon as non-conference opponents. Will be interesting to see how a very young AU team performs this season.

On Saxon Warriors!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 31, 2019, 09:22:12 AM
I still think that Oneonta is the team to beat.  They have nearly everyone back, and have added a weapon in First Team All State Player Mason Flatley, [who I thought would get low D-I offers].  The run the O-Dragons put on the last three weeks of last season was impressive, They beat Oswego by 15 at Oswego and also beat Plattsburgh by 18. 

Oswego loses Leading Scorer Tyson Pierre and ace 3 pt shooter [93] Quinn Carey. 

Also Re: Brockport, 3rd team all conference player Devante Hagins [12pts 8 rebs]  is not listed on the roster at this time, and they also lose Chris Atkinson 9.9 ppg/93 asts who split time at PG and starter Josh Nelson, who started 27 games for the Eagles.

Food for thought
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 31, 2019, 11:06:37 PM
Quote from: thebear on October 31, 2019, 09:22:12 AM
I still think that Oneonta is the team to beat.  They have nearly everyone back, and have added a weapon in First Team All State Player Mason Flatley, [who I thought would get low D-I offers].  The run the O-Dragons put on the last three weeks of last season was impressive, They beat Oswego by 15 at Oswego and also beat Plattsburgh by 18. 

Oswego loses Leading Scorer Tyson Pierre and ace 3 pt shooter [93] Quinn Carey. 

Also Re: Brockport, 3rd team all conference player Devante Hagins [12pts 8 rebs]  is not listed on the roster at this time, and they also lose Chris Atkinson 9.9 ppg/93 asts who split time at PG and starter Josh Nelson, who started 27 games for the Eagles.

Food for thought

Something tells me that once all Yac teams roster are posed, then...and only then , will we get the Magicman's predictions.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 05, 2019, 01:09:56 PM
Quote from: thebear on October 31, 2019, 09:22:12 AM
I still think that Oneonta is the team to beat.  They have nearly everyone back, and have added a weapon in First Team All State Player Mason Flatley, [who I thought would get low D-I offers].  The run the O-Dragons put on the last three weeks of last season was impressive, They beat Oswego by 15 at Oswego and also beat Plattsburgh by 18. 

Oswego loses Leading Scorer Tyson Pierre and ace 3 pt shooter [93] Quinn Carey. 

Also Re: Brockport, 3rd team all conference player Devante Hagins [12pts 8 rebs]  is not listed on the roster at this time, and they also lose Chris Atkinson 9.9 ppg/93 asts who split time at PG and starter Josh Nelson, who started 27 games for the Eagles.

Food for thought

Oswego got two "significant" transfers that I think will change the conversation a bit on how good they will be. That said ... I wait to see games on the court. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 05, 2019, 09:03:41 PM
The D3hops Preseason All-America Team was posted today and the East Region had 2 players chosen for this prestigious honor.

In the SUNYAC Conference, 6'5" senior forward Justin Summers of Brockport State, was named to the 3rd team. Summers is a two time SUNYAC FIrst Team All-Conference selection  during his sophomore and junior seasons. He will be counted on heavily by the Golden Eagles to make a run toward this year's conference crown and a bid to the NCAA tournament.

Also selected to the third team from the NEAC Conference was 6'4" Senior Kevin Dennis of Morrisville State. Dennis is a three time NEAC First Team All-Conference selection and has already scored close to 1600 points at Morrisville, to become their all time leading scorer.

Summers and Dennis were the only 2 players from the East Region to make the D3hoops All-America teams, and as fate would have it, they will both open the 2019-20 season next Tuesday, November 12th when they will face each other, as Brockport travels to Morrisville to take on the Mustangs at 6:00 PM.   

Interestingly, New York State had more than twice as many of the 25 players selected than any other state. Five players from the Empire State made the cut while the next best state (Illinois, Texas, Virginia, Wisconsin)  only had 2 each.


Here's the link to the complete D3hoops All-America Teams:

https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2020
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 08, 2019, 08:37:23 AM
Canton at Potsdam tonight; tomorrow Baruch at New Paltz and Naz at Buff State. Happy Hoops New Year, y'all.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 08, 2019, 04:17:42 PM
My Bears open at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium at 7 PM tonight for their only home game of the fall semester.
Bears return starting PG Danny Delsol-Lowry, Wing Jayquan Thomas and Wing Aaron Armstrong.
Roo's with new coach Shiva Senthil return 7'1" Aussie Andrew Fitch plus PF Joseph Werner, and 6th man Danny Santana.
Go Bears
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on November 08, 2019, 06:52:01 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 08, 2019, 04:17:42 PM
My Bears open at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium at 7 PM tonight for their only home game of the fall semester.
Bears return starting PG Danny Delsol-Lowry, Wing Jayquan Thomas and Wing Aaron Armstrong.
Roo's with new coach Shiva Senthil return 7'1" Aussie Andrew Fitch plus PF Joseph Werner, and 6th man Danny Santana.
Go Bears

Why? Do they like to bond on bus trips?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2019, 06:57:29 PM
Time to kick off the 2019-2020 basketball season and who better to do it than my alma mater Potsdam State. The Bears will host the Kangaroos from SUNY-Canton in a renewal of what has becomes a close rivalry between the two teams. It was made even closer when the Bears managed to swoop the Roo's coach from them a few years ago and now Canton would love nothing better than to hang a loss on their former coach, Jim Bechtel. Coach Bechtel has shown steady improvement since taking over at Potsdam, when he inherited a team that had went 3-46 in the 2 years before his arrival. He went 3-22 his first year, including a loss to Canton, but upped the victory total to 11 his 2nd year and last year went 13-13 and made the SUNYAC playoffs for the first time in 8 years. He has beaten Canton the last 2 seasons but both those games came right down to the wire.

Each team lost a lot of firepower to graduation so it remains to be seen who will have the edge in tonight's contest. They have faced off 6 times in the past 10 years with the Bears holding a 4-2 edge in those games. Potsdam has won the last two seasons so Coach Bechtel has a 2-1 record against his former team. Both of those wins were by a 3 point margin.

The oddsmakers have made the Bears a 10 point favorite in this game but based on past history I think that spread is inflated. Potsdam could lose this game and I wouldn't be surprised, as both they and the Roos will need to find the right chemistry on the court with so many changes in the starting lineups.

I can't pick against my alma mater though and I think the Bears will pull out a W in this game but it will be another close contest. Potsdam wins 76-72.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 08, 2019, 07:16:30 PM
Magicman....see you are back in the saddle again , my friend.
Me, one more football game on Saturday.  Many Fall sports playing for conference titles and then the post season.
Basketball starts soon enough....Amherst adds two assist coaches to support Interim HC Toomey while HC takes a sabbatical season off.  Amherst ranks in high in the preseason polls as well as the women basketball team.
Keep in touch :).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2019, 08:05:01 PM
Potsdam State leads Canton 37-30 at the break.

Bears trailed 17-12 and went on a 14-0 run to grab a 26-17 lead with about 7 minutes to go in the period. Canton closed to within 2 points at 29-27 but another spurt by Potsdam gave them the 7 point edge at halftime.

Jayquan Thomas leads the Bears with 8 points. Brandon Segar jr. and  Dante Viskovich both have 6 points. Segar has 4 boards.


Joseph Werner leads all scorers with 11 points and 7 boards for the Roos and Andrew Fitch is next with 6 points and 5 rebounds.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 08, 2019, 09:13:41 PM
Potsdam State defeats Canton 75-67.

The Bears open the season on a positive note as they grabbed the lead with 8:43 left in the first half and never trailed after that. Canton had opened a 5 point lead at 17-12 on back to back buckets by 7 footer Andrew Fitch but Potsdam fought back as Jayquan Thomas got a hoop and harm, Dante Viskovich buried a three ball, Thomas got a steal that resulted in a layup by Isaiah Joseph and after the Roos came up empty, Viskovich buried another one from downtown and the Bears were suddenly up 23-17 on an 11-0 run, with 7:45 left in the half.
A minute later, junior transfer, 6''6" Brandon Segar Jr. scored his first field goal in a Potsdam uniform with a three pointer to make it 26-17 and the largest lead of the first period. Canton kept it close with a 10-3 run of their own to make it 29-27 but the Bears got the lead back to 7 at the break, 37-30.

Another jumper by Segar Jr. put Potsdam up by 10 for the first double digit lead of the night at 42-32 and again Canton came back to get within 2 points several times with the last occurring at the 13:09 mark at 50-48. Potsdam was still clinging to their slim lead  when once again Jayquan Thomas scored on a layup and went to the line for the 3 point play. Point guard Danny Delsol-Lowry scored 5 straight points, 2 from the line and a 3 pointer, and Segar Jr nailed another threeball to boost the lead back to 11 at 61-50 with 10:18 left to play.  The Bears maintained their double digit lead and it grew to 16 points, 73-57, the largest of the night, when Thomas scored inside again, followed by a jumper from Tyrese Baptiste, with 5:48 remaining. Canton didn't go quietly into the night, however, as they narrowed the lead to 74-67 with a 10-1 run with 2:01 still on the clock. But first they ran out of luck and then time as they came up empty in their final 4 possessions.  The Bears go 1x6 from the line, down the stretch to give the Roos some hope.

Both teams shot 39% from the field. Bears made 6 three pointers, Roos had 7. Both teams had 44 rebounds. Bears had 17 turnovers, Canton had 21. Bears had 13 steals, Canton had 7.

Biggest difference..... Potsdam was 22x36 from the line Canton was 2x4.  Don't think Coach Bechtel could complain about the calls too much tonight! ;D

Bears were led by Jayquan Thomas with 17 points, 3 assists and 5 steals.
Danny Delsol-Lowry had 14 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists.
Brandon Segar Jr. had 11 points, 4 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals.
Tyrese Baptiste had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals, off the bench


Canton was led by Joseph Werner who captured scoring and rebounding honors with a double-double of 23 points and 14 rebounds.
Quran Dubois had 15 points and 6 rebounds.
Andrew Fitch had 10 points, 8 rebounds and 4 blocks.

Potsdam will play their 2nd game of the season on Tuesday Nov. 12th when they travel to Canton to take on another North Country rival, St. Lawrence at 6:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 09, 2019, 07:48:34 AM
Nov. 9  Two Games on Tap Today   


Baruch  @  New Paltz        3:00 PM

The Hawks return their 3 top scorers and 5 players that averaged double digit minutes on the court last season. It was the 2nd year of head coach Keith Kenney's tenure and the team showed considerable improvement over his first year of trying to resurrect the fortunes of New Paltz basketball. The Hawks finished with a 14-11 record and just missed the SUNYAC playoffs which will be their first goal this season. That 14-11 record was the first time the Hawks have had a winning season since 1999 when Coach Kenney was the player leading the Hawks to their best season in Hawk history. Now he'd like to be the coach that leads them to the best season in their history. I wouldn't bet against him.

The first opponent the Hawks will face is Baruch College who is coming off a season in which they were conference champions and went to the NCAA tournament last March. They were one and done at the Dance as they ran into perrenial tournament participant Wooster College but still the Bearcats finished the year with a solid 22-6 mark. That's the good news. The bad news is they lost 4 starters and 5 of their top 9 rotation guys. Lots of new faces to fill in the spaces. And when you have NY City to recruit from then anything can and does happen.

The oddsmakers have made the Hawks a slim 3 point favorite and I can't argue with that, but I am a little surprised since Baruch won last year's matchup by a 76-60 score. I know little about the Bearcats and can only make an educated guess about the outcome of this one. I know the Hawks will play a solid game and look for the best open shot. I'm taking New Paltz to win this one by a 74-70 final score.       





Nazareth  @  Buffalo State    7:00 PM

Another game between 2 teams that have wholesale changes in their lineups. The Bengals had a young team last year and I expected them to bring just about everybody back. Looking at the roster though I see some glaring omissions especially the absence of leading scorer Dom Grayer. I hope for their sake that he may return in the 2nd semester. Four of the top eight guys are gone from last year's lineup but the good news is that the second, third, and fourth leading scorers are back. Seven new faces including 2 community college transfers, 4 freshman and a sophomore round out the 14 player roster. The Bengals had so many tough, close losses last year that if there had been a trophy for hard luck they would have surely walked off with it. Maybe this season things will even out.

THe Nazareth Golden Flyers were another team that had some suuccess last year (18-8, 12-4 E8) but just couldn't get the win at the right time. They were runners up in the Empire 8 regular season to Alfred and and then lost in overtime to St. John Fisher in the E8 tournament to end their campaign. The entire starting 5 graduated, which is 55 ppg, and 24 rpg, they will be lookng to replace.

The oddsmakers have made Nazareth a slight favorite by just 2 points making the game basically a tossup. I tossed a coin...it was a Buffalo nickel... it came up with the Buffalo staring me in the face. I'll take the Bengals from Buffalo State to win this one 79-74.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 09, 2019, 04:12:49 PM
New Paltz leads Baruch 43-41 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 09, 2019, 04:55:51 PM
New Paltz  defeats Baruch 90-79.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 09, 2019, 08:08:27 PM
Buffalo State trails Nazareth 44-32 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 09, 2019, 09:29:28 PM
Buffalo State drops a a 78-69 decision to Nazareth.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2019, 01:33:23 AM
New Paltz 90  Baruch College 79

The Hawks got balanced double figure scoring from 4 players, which included several new faces, starting with Jr. transfer, 6'4" G/F  Richard Altenord, who opened his New Paltz career with 17 points and 5 rebounds. Also getting off to an excellent start, in his first game in a Hawks' uniform, was RJ Meyers-Turner a 5'9" Freshman guard. RJ came off the bench to log 23 minutes of playing time and scored 18 points on 6x11 shooting, which included 3x4 from behind the arc.

It was a pair of veterans that led the way for the Hawks, however, as they filled up the stat sheet to open their season. The leading scorer for New Paltz was one of their top returning players, Jr. guard Jake Passaretti, who dropped in 19 points, had 5 rebounds, 5 assists and 7 steals. Right behind was 6'6" Sophomore forward, Isaiah Bien-Aise, who just missed a double-double with 17 points and 9 rebounds. The Hawks' two leading scorers from last season, 6'5" Sr. forward Scott Reisert and 6'4" Sr. forward Tristan Wissemann scored 6 and 5 points respectively. That should open some eyes around the league when the Hawks can put 90 points on the board in a close game and your one-two punch from last year didn't have to carry the offense.

The first half was closely contested with 11 lead changes. The only time the teams were tied was at 40-40 with 31 seconds left in the period. Baruch hit a free throw to go up by 1 and the Hawks' Richard Altenord hit a 3 pointer with a few seconds left to allow New Paltz to go into the break up 43-41.

The first 5 minutes of the 2nd half produced a tie and 2 more lead changes but Altenord got a steal and a layup for New Paltz with 14:54 on the clock to give the Hawks a 50-49 advantage. They would never trail again.  5 points from  RJ Meyers-Turner and another basket by Altenord put the Hawks up 57-49 to give them some breathing room. The lead would remain between 3 and 9 points over the next 9 minutes but the Bearcats made a push and cut the margin to a single possession at 75-72 with 5:52 left to play. Isaiah Bien-Aise buried a 3 pointer and then followed that with a pair of free throws to build the lead back to 8 points. Some timely baskets down the stretch by Jake Passaretti and a pair of free throws  boosted the lead to 13 points but it was a closer game than that until the 4 minute mark when the Hawks took control.  Nice opening win for the team.

Both teams shot around 45-46 % from the field. Hawks were 13x28 from long distance (46%)  Bearcats were just 7x19 (36%). Hawks went 17x27 from the line (63%) Baruch only 14x30 (46%). Hawks had 37 rebounds to 32 for Baruch. Both teams had 20 turnovers.

Baruch was led by guard Ryan Graziano who captured scoring honors for the game with 21 points.  Adnan Bajrami  had a double-double of 13 points and 11 rebounds. He also had 5 assists.  Sean Donnellan had 12 points and Benjamim Boateng had 11.

New Paltz will return to action when they travel to Farmingdale State on Wednesday November 13th for a 7:00 PM contest. I will be interested in that game as my Cardinals will open the season on Friday the 15th against Farmingdale State as well. I'll get a preview of them on Wednesday. Go Hawks.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 10, 2019, 02:34:36 AM
Finally got the season opener out of the way.  Not the result that i had hoped for but encouraged nonetheless. Especially with Kay Grants " nearly" 20 and 10 (9 rebounds actually). Freshman Aaron Davis didn't disappoint either in his first d3 game. 

I know coach Ansari will dot the I's and cross the T's before crosstown Medialle comes to town   I can't wait

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 10, 2019, 04:32:45 AM
Nazareth 78  Buffalo State 69

  The Bengals hung with the Golden Flyers for most of the first half but with 6 minutes to go Nazareth had opened a 7 point lead at 30-23. Back to back layups by Kay Grant brought Buff State back within 3 but a 10-0 run by Naz in the final 4 minutes of the period left the Bengals in a 12 point hole at the break.

  Buffalo State managed to cut the gap to single digits after several minutes of the 2nd period but over the next 14 minutes they continued to trail by 7 to 11 points. A 3 pointer from Delen Ramovic narrowed the deficit to 73-67 with 2:29 left but the Bengals came up empty on their next 3 trips, allowing Nazareth to widen the final margin to 78-69.

   Buffalo State got a game high 20 points from 6'5" Senior forward Kay Grant, who just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. He will be counted on heavily this year if the Bengals are to have any success in conference play.
   Sheldon Adams the 6'2" Junior guard, who is the Bengals' top returning scorer, had 12 points 7 rebounds and 3 assists but has had better nights shooting the rock. They just weren't falling for him, we've all been there.
   Aaron Davis had a good first night for the Bengals. The 5'10" Freshman guard got to start, was 3x5 from the field, made his only 3 point attempt and went 4x6 from the line. He managed 11 points in 24 minutes of floor time and added 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.
   Delan Ramovic added 11 points and 5 rebounds as the 6'3" Junior guard came off the bench to contribute 22 minutes of floor time. He was 5x10 from the field and should be an intregal part of the Bengals rotation this year.
     Argjend Imeri a 6'4" Freshman guard got to see his first action as a Bengal and came off the bench for 16 minutes on the court. He took 1 shot from the field, a 3 pointer and drained it for his first collegiate points. He added a pair of assists and a rebound.
 
   Nazareth had 4 players hit double figures led by Kevin Underwood with 16 points and 4 rebounds. Jonathan Park had a double-double of 15 points with 11 rebounds and had 3 blocks. Cody Green chipped in with 12 points and a pair of assists. Stephen Gabel had 10 points, 7 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.

Shooting stats were fairly even as both teams shot 39%from the field. Buff State was 6x14 from long distance and Naz was 5x18. The Bengals were 17x23 from the stripe and Naz was 21x33. The Golden Flyers had the edge in both rebounding 45 to 38 and in turnovers as they only had 9 giveaways to 16 for Buffalo State. Three of the 4 double figure scorers for Nazareth came off the bench  as they got 52 bench points to just 22 for the Bengals.

Buffalo State will be back in action on Friday November 15th when they host the Coles Classic and will play Medaille College at 8:00 PM. The night will start with Washington and Jefferson taking on Morrisville State at 6:00 PM in the first game.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 10, 2019, 07:51:10 AM


THat's a pretty good win for Naz, no?  Buff State's no slouch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 10, 2019, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 10, 2019, 07:51:10 AM


THat's a pretty good win for Naz, no?  Buff State's no slouch.

ehhhhh we'll see. Buff State had some solid years, and maybe they'll be on the way up soon, but they were 17-31 the past two seasons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 10, 2019, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 10, 2019, 07:51:10 AM


THat's a pretty good win for Naz, no?  Buff State's no slouch.

Slouch ?  I doubt anyone can say who's good or not in November. I will say that the Bengals played 5 freshman yesterday and 2 1st year sophomores. I know that coach Faj was concerned about chemistry and cut players this year who played ( and started ) last year. I believe that this years team has depth , genuine respect for each other and plenty talent.  I will say this.  It's the first time, that I can remember, the BENGALS played EVERYONE on thier roster in a meaningful game.  Can't say that I've seen that before unless it's a blowout  (and I'm sure we all can agree, this was not a blowout).

   Only time will tell how much of a quality win it was for Naz. I take my hat if to them. Every time we got within range , they would hit a big shot. Give coach Broderick credit.  That former Oswego coach has a scrappy crew

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 11, 2019, 12:32:27 PM
Just happy the Magicman is Back and Better than ever!!!!

The Craziness is about to begin in the SUNYAC.

Buckle up your seat belts and hold on it's going to be a Bumpy Ride.

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2019, 05:22:42 PM
Nov. 12  Three more teams open their season today with 4 games scheduled starting at 6:00 PM.

A foot of snow has hit the North Country and Murphy's Law has once again visited the magicman. My plow truck won't start and I couldn't get it going with a jump. Brand new heavy duty battery just months ago so I don't know what the problem is. Of course it worked fine and started right up several days ago, when I drove into town.  Waiting to see if I can get plowed out or not today. My driveway is only 1000 feet long so without a plow job it ain't getting cleared.

Potsdam State  @  St. Lawrence             6:00 PM

The Bears beat the Saints last year in Potsdam. The Larries will try to turn the tables this year on their home court in Canton. Both teams lost more than 50% of their scoring due to graduation. Tonight's game will see which team can find the winning combination of new faces with returning veterans. The line has the Saints listed as a 2 point favorite and I expect a close game. I'm hoping the Bears can claim their 2nd win over a college from Canton in a 5 day span. Potsdam wins this one 75-73.   

        
Brockport State  @  Morrisville State      6:00 PM

This is the opener for both teams and it features two of the top players in Division III. Justin Summers from Brockport and Kevin Dennis  from MoVille were both selected to the D3hoops.com preseason All-American Third Team.

Morrisville won the regular season and tournament Championship of the NEAC conference last year and went to the NCAA Tournament. They should challenge for the top spot in their conference once again. Dennis isn't the only bright spot for the Mustangs as they return 6 of their top 10 rotation players. Tyrin Miller and Justin Mitchell are a pair of 6'2" Senior guards that both averaged double figures for Morrisville and will force opposing defenses to guard the 3 point line. Together they made over 100 triples last year. Derek Beames, a 6'7" Senior forward who had 15 starts last year will help out Dennis on the boards. He averages 7'5 ppg and 4.4 rpg.   

Brockport returns a number of veterans from last years team that made it to the championship game of the SUNYAC Tournament where they dropped a close decision to Oswego State 55-50. In addition to Summers they return last years' Rookie of the Year in the YAC, Danny Ashley, who averaged 8.1 ppg and 3.5 assists per game.  Graduate student Tyler Collins a 5'10" guard returns for a final season after getting a medical redshirt last year and Jahidi Wallace, a 6'2" Sophomore guard is also back. The pair averaged 12 and 10 ppg. respectively. Sharpshooter Antonio Alvarez, a 6'3" Junior guard, is back and looking to build on his sophomore season, where he got 15 starts after the new year, and had double figures in 10 of those games. Monte Stroman, a 6'4" Senior guard is another veteran who plays double digit minutes, and fills up the stat sheet. Six newcomers are listed on the roster, 1 freshman and 5 junior transfer players. I imagine with 16 players, which includes 11 guards, there will be a deep rotation that will feature a lot of substitution, as the Golden Eagles will come at you non stop. I expect them to be a major force in the conference and one of the favorites to win the top prize.

Last year the Golden Eagles handled the Mustangs in Brockport by a 96-77 final score as Justin Summers had hs way with the 'Stangs. Brockport's ace scored 35 points and grabbed 12 rebounds, but he had help from Devante Hagins who tossed in 21 points and snagged 8 rebounds. Hagins in not on Port's roster this year, which has to be a bit disconcerting for Brockport's Coach Dunne. Dennis had 13 pts and 10 boards to help his team but Justin Mitchell led the Mustangs with 20 points.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a slim 2 point favorite in this contest and I'm not sure why that margin is so small. I don't expect the Mustangs to lose by 19 like last year but still think that Brockport will prevail by a few more than 2. I'm picking Port to win 85-76.

           
   
D'Youville  @  Fredonia State           7:00 PM

The Blue Devils are looking to get off on the right foot and they open with just the team to do that with. Last year D'Youville opened up a 9 point halftime lead and held off the Blue Devils to come away with a 85-77 win. The Spartans lost a lot of players off that team, unfortunately it looks like Fredonia lost even more.

The Blue Devils had 10 guys in their rotation last year that averaged double digit minutes. With a 2-23 record it could be safe to say that Coach Seymore had trouble finding the right combination on the floor. He may be back in that same predicament this year as 7 of the top 8 guys in that rotation are not on this years' roster. Lots of new faces with 3 transfers, 4 freshman and several players returning from 2 years ago that saw limited action when they were on the team. DeQuan Smith, a 6' Senior guard, will lead the team as he averaged 10.4 ppg last year. Tyler Roberts is another 6 foot Senior guard, who had a significant number of starts last season and averaged 4.5 ppg. George Colden, a 6'3" Senior guard, is the only other returning player who had more than 1 start last year, as he got the nod on 7 occasions. All told the Blue Devils lost over 60% of their scoring. They need to find it in a hurry.

D'Youville is in the same boat as the Blue Devils as they lost a number of players, so it's anyone's guess who will come out on top in this game. The point spread has the Spartans winning this one by a 2 point margin. I went with Fredonia last year and they burned me so this year I've considered going with D'Youville....but I won't.... I'm rooting for the Blue Devils so I might as well pick the Blue Devils...but they aren't getting too many chances. Fredonia starts the year off with a bang....Bue Devils 73  Spartans 69           
   
Rochester  @  Geneseo State              7:00 PM

Geneseo would love to win this game. And it's not just because it's their season opener and they'd like to start the season off with a W. They would love to break the long losing streak they have against the Yellowjackets.  Over the past 13 years they are 0-7 and are coming off 3 losses in the past 3 years to the Uof R.

This could be the year the Knights have a shot, as Rochester lost a significant portion of their rotation to graduation. They are coming off a 21-6 season where they made it to the Big Dance, winning a game and losing one before calling it a night. They return just 1 starter from that team and lose their top 3 scorers. A 10 man rotation from last year has only 4 returning players so they will be trying to discover where the scoring will come from. A big freshman class of 9 recruits will give them a decent starting point.

The Knights are coming off a year where they were near the bottom of the standings in the SUNYAC as it became a rebuilding year when two of their top players left the program. They have brought back 7 of their top 9 players from last year and added 6 freshman along with 2 sophomores to the team. Even though they struggled down the stretch during a number of games they were still capable of beating anyone. They managed 2 big upsets in the final few weeks of the season with wins over Brockport and Cortland, the 3rd and 4th place teams in the YAC, as proof that the team was continuing to improve. 6'2" Senior guard Terrance Nichols will lead the Knights with his 15.2 ppg average and 4.1 rpg.  5'10" Senior guard Terence Rogers dishes out 4.5 assists per game, averages 6.1 ppg. and 3.9 rpg. Michael Gannon is also back and the 6'6" Sophomore forward should move forward off a freshman year that saw him average 8.1 ppg and 4.5 rpg.

The oddsmakers have made Rochester a double digit 11 point favorite in this game. I'd love to take the Knights and really hope they can end this losing streak they've been on against the Yellowjackets. However this is the UAA  conference and they recruit so many talented players that it's hard to compete with them, especially when you're coming off a down season. I believe the Knights are capable of winning this game, however, and think they can keep it closer than the 11 point spread.

I'll go with Rochester 79 Geneseo 73, but sure hope I'm wrong and it's the other way around.

         

Plowing the Driveway Update
   
On a bright note I did get plowed out by a a guy who will only charge me about $100 bucks. The price you pay for having a long driveway. Now the next problem is getting my truck fixed.  Need someone that does house calls. I had a guy that would always do that and has been my go to guy for at least a dozen or more years. He was operated on for a brain tumor last Wednesday and it doesn't look good. I'm praying he will respond to the chemo. They sent him to Roswell Park Cancer Center in Buffalo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2019, 06:52:51 PM
Brockport leads Morrisville 39-31 at the half.

Justin Summers and Jahidi Wallace with 8 points each to pace the Golden Eagles.

Kevin Dennis with 9 points and 10 rebounds for the Mustangs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 12, 2019, 06:54:30 PM
Potsdam shooting 60% against SLU after the half.  SLU injuries killing them inside.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2019, 06:59:15 PM
Potsdam State leads SLU 63-49 at the half.

Teams playing with a 20 second clock I think with the points they're putting up. Unexpected ???

Jayquan Thomas and Brandon Segar Jr. with 16 points each to lead the Bears. Tyrese Baptiste already with a double-double with 10 points and 10 boards.

Luke Hicks leads the Saints with 20 points. Brandon Arnold with 9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2019, 07:53:18 PM
Potsdam State defeats St Lawrence 84-74
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2019, 08:00:11 PM
Brockport falls to Morrisville State 73-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2019, 08:06:27 PM
Rochester led Geneseo 36-24 at the half and now the Yellowjackets are in front 43-29 with 15 minutes to play.

D'Youville in front of Fredonia 42-37 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 12, 2019, 08:28:35 PM
I was impressed with Potsdam tonight.  They shot a nice percentage in the first half and their 3 point shooting was the difference.  They're a physical team that plays nice defense, especially in the back court.  I think the game might had been different if Hicks didn't get injured and we had our 6'10" center anchoring the zone as Potsdam got a lot of points in the paint in the first half, but a win is a win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 12, 2019, 09:12:04 PM
Potsdam senior Jayquan Thomas had 21 points to lead all scorers.

Bears got double doubles tonight from newcomers 6-6 junior Brandon Segar Jr. [17 pts 10 rebs] and 6-6 Freshman Tyrese Baptiste [10 pts 14 rebounds]  Bears largest lead was 22 before the Saints mounted a bit of a comeback. 

As noted the Saints started the game with two key players on crutches and their top returnee, Luke Hicks [20 pts] was injured and on the bench for the last 6:54.

A tale of two halves, Bears scored 63 in the first and 21 in the second.  63 is one point short of the Potsdam School record for a half.

Nice win for the Bears at SLU.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 12, 2019, 09:40:39 PM
Only one player in crutches, the 2nd option off the bench for center/forward but 2 other main contributors out with Huntley and Hoffman (starting center) not playing.   I wasn't able to find out what their injuries were but they didn't appear to be seriously injured.   They were walking around fine.  I doubt it's an eligibility issue, probably just a practice tweak.    Hoffman's length would have made a difference I think but Potsdam took advantage of the zone and made a lot of shots, about half of them contested.    Potsdam's guards were also very active on defense and got a lot of layups off of forced turnovers. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 12, 2019, 09:43:17 PM
I've been around Potsdam basketball since 1970 and can count on two fingers the times the Bears have scored 63 in a half against anyone, including during the 60 game win streak.  That was one of the better halves of basketball offense Potsdam has played in recent memory.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 12, 2019, 09:48:21 PM
After the first 10 minutes I though both teams were going to score 100.   Everything went right for Potsdam.   They'll likely not face a zone for an entire game again this season but they made shots and scored in the paint.  I was impressed.  Potsdam went up 12 halfway through the first half and then SLU went on a 13-0 run to take the lead but Potsdam forced some turnovers and never lost the lead after that.   It's nice to see that program back on track again.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 12, 2019, 09:49:34 PM
Geneseo State loses to Rochester 72-61. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bearnation on November 13, 2019, 04:10:49 AM
I was looking at the Potsdam Bears upcoming schedule and had to do a double take on the game next Tuesday 11/19/19.  It says that my bears are playing Albany.  It's been a long time since this two rivals have played.  I'm sure it will not be like the Doc and Jerry battles but it would be fun if the Bears knock off a Division I program
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2019, 05:16:07 AM
Quote from: bearnation on November 13, 2019, 04:10:49 AM
I was looking at the Potsdam Bears upcoming schedule and had to do a double take on the game next Tuesday 11/19/19.  It says that my bears are playing Albany.  It's been a long time since this two rivals have played.  I'm sure it will not be like the Doc and Jerry battles but it would be fun if the Bears knock off a Division I program


bearnation,
In the words of Steven Tyler....Dream On...Dream On. ;D 

Seriously, though. I went down to Albany a couple of years ago to watch Oneonta State play Albany in an exhibtion game. (They played them 2 years in a row when Coach Conover first took over the Red Dragon program in 2016)  I said at the time I would consider it a victory if Oneonta could score in the 50's and hold the Great Danes in the 90's. I believe they did that if memory serves me correctly.  I'm hoping my alma mater can do the same this time around.  At any rate it will be a fun time for the Bears to play in the SEFCU Arena in front of thousands of fans, regardless of the outcome.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 13, 2019, 05:35:54 PM
Weather permitting this Bear plans to be there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2019, 07:03:45 PM
November 13   One game on the schedule for today


New Paltz  @  Farmingdale State

Farmingdale State is the reigning champion of the Skyline Conference and has went to the NCAA tournament twice in the last 3 seasons. They were 20-8 last year with 18 of those wins coming against conference teams. They were only 2-4 in non-conference games but those 4 losses were all quality opponents, Ramapo, New Jersey City, Wesleyan, and Rochester. They all made the NCAA tournament except Wesleyan and those Cardinals posted a 16-9 mark. Farmingdale returns 7 players from a 10 man rotation and were chosen to come in 2nd place in their division of the Skyline which is now a North and South Division this year. The 3 players they lost however were the top 3 scorers on the team and their totals added up to 42 ppg which is exactly half of the 84 ppg the team averaged last year. Those 3 also accounted for 40 % of the team's rebounds. Still the Rams will have 2 starters and several other players back to give New Paltz some problems.

The oddsmakers have made Farmingdale State a 4 point favorite in this game  but I like the way the Hawks opened the season and I think they can win this one. I'll take New Paltz to win 83-80.   



 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2019, 07:53:17 PM
Farmingdale State leads New Paltz 50-43 at halftime.

Tristan Wissemann leads the Hawks with 13 points.  Isaiah Bien-Aise and RJ Meyers-Turner both have 6 points.   Bien-Aise leads the team with 5 rebounds.

The Rams got 15 points from Troy Feeney and  7 points from Anthony Miller Jr. Four other players have 6 points each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 13, 2019, 09:08:06 PM
Farmingdale State 93  New Paltz 90

Hawks could have won this game and had several chances to make the go ahead bucket with just seconds on the clock but came up short  in both instances. They fought back from a 10 point deficit at 61-51 with 14:49  left to play to eventually grab a short lived lead at 66-65 with 11 minutes remaining. The Rams regained the lead on their next possession and remained in front by 1 to 6 points over the next 9 minutes. With 2 minutes to play the Hawks trailed 87-81 but scored 6 straight points to tie the game and had a chance to take the lead with 44 seconds left. However another turnover resulted in a Hawk foul and the Rams went to the line and made 1 of 2. The Rams then got lucky and got the rebound off the missed free throw, resulting in another foul called on New Paltz. Farmingdale made them both and now led 90-87 with 39 seconds to go. The Hawks were fouled on thier possession but only made 1 of 2 at the line. They fouled immediately on the inbound pass and the Rams made another pair of free throws, to extend the lead to 4 points with just 26 seconds to play. Tristan Wissemann scored on a layup for New Paltz and the Hawks called a timeout with 17 ticks left. They quickly fouled the Rams when play resumed and the Rams gave New Paltz a golden opportunity when they missed both free throws. The Hawks had the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead with a three pointer, but came up empty when they missed the layup and a foul was called against them with 7 seconds left. The Rams made the first and missed the second leaving the Hawks with a chance to tie it but their three point attempt was off the mark and the Rams came away with the win.

It was a great game to watch and the Hawks played well. They might have won if the foul calls were a little more even but the Hawks were 9x16 from the line, while Farmingdale was 31x48. Take away the 3 fouls (6 free throws for the Rams) that New Paltz needed to make in the final 45 seconds (because the score was 88-87 with 43 seconds left and there was no need to foul prior to that) and the Rams still had 42 free throws...26 more than the Hawks. 31 fouls were called on New Paltz, only 17 on Farmingdale. The Hawks had 3 players foul out in this game. Those 3 players scored 54 points in their win last Saturday. Tonight they only had 34 between them.

Tristan Wissemann captured scoring honors with 27 points. He added 3 assists 2 steals and 2 rebounds.
Jake Passaretti had 16 points with 4 assists, 2 steals and 2 rebounds.
RJ Meyers-Turner had 12 points and a pair of assists in 21 minutes off the bench.
Scott Reisert had a double-double of 10 points and 10 rebounds.
Isaiah Bien-Aise was the top rebounder in the game and just missed a double-double with 12 rebounds and 8 points.


Troy Feeney led 3 players in double digits for the Rams. He had 26 points and was also their leading rebounder as he completed his double-double with 11 boards. Anthony Miller jr. had 19 points and Hunter Schenkel added 13.

The Hawks shot  39.8% from the field (35x88), 36.7% from 3 point land (11x30) and 56.3% from the line (9x16)

The Rams were 44.6% from the field (29x65),  22.2% from downtown (4x18) and    64.6% from the stripe (31x48)   

THe Hawks lost the rebounding battle 55-47 but mainly because they took 23 more shots than the Rams giving Farmingdale a chance to grab more defensive rebounds. New Paltz only committed 12 turnovers to 18 for the Rams.

New Paltz is now 1-1 and will be off until next Wednesday, November 20th when they travel to Troy, NY to take on the Gators of Sage  College at 7:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 14, 2019, 05:01:33 AM
Fredonia State 91  D'Youville 88  in overtime        Game from Tuesday Night

The Blue Devils come from 10 points down with less than 5 minutes to play against the Spartans but couldn't get the game winner to go in at the buzzer. They went to overtime and D'Youville grabbed the early lead but the Blue Devils got a jumper from Dydy Bryan to tie it up and after each team came up empty in their next few possessions, Adam Braniecki made 3 of 4 from the stripe to give the Blue Devils the lead at 83-80. Fredonia missed their next 2 shots, while the Spartans got a layup and went 1 of 2 from the line in their next 2 trips down the floor to tie the game at 83 with 1:28 to go. De'Quan Smith then hit the biggest shot of the night as he scored inside with 1:12 to play and the Spartans missed a 3 pointer on their end. Braniecki got the rebound, got fouled and made them both to make it a 2 possession game at 87-83 with 50 seconds to go. The Spartans  went to the line, made 1 of 2 and fouled Smith with 28 seconds left. He made them both and stretched the lead to 5 points. The Spartans missed again and fouled Bryan who made 1 of 2 to make it 90-84 with 15 seconds left. At that point the worst thing that can happen did and Fredonia fouled the Spartans as the player drained a shot from long distance....the dreaded 4 point play and after the made free throw it was now 90-88. Once again the Spartans put Bryan on the line with 4 seconds left. Again he made 1 of 2 to guarantee they wouldn't lose on a three pointer. However, I'm guessing there was no one too close to the shooter for the Spartans, who took that final shot, which, luckily for Fredonia, was off the mark, allowing the Blue Devils to gain a measure of revenge over last years' loss to the Spartans.


Blue Devils:
De'Quan Smith was the game's high scorer with 26 points and 6 rebounds.

Dydy Bryan was right behind with 23 points. He was the leading rebounder in the game with 9 rebounds. He added 4 assists and 2 steals in his first game as a Blue Devil.

Moussa Samassa had 14 points and 8 rebounds.

Tyler Roberts had 12 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.

Kreem George came off the bench to add 8 points 4 rebounds, and 4 assists in 24 minutes of court time as he had a successful beginning in his Blue Devil debut.


Spartans:
D'Youville got 23 points from Grant Beyer along with 3 rebounds.

Devon Darrell  had 18 points 4 rebounds and 4 assists.

Juan Miguel Rosales  had 16 points and led the Spartans with 8 rebounds.

Fredonia shot 31x74 from the field (41.9%), 7-22 from the arc (31.8) and 22x29 from the foul line (41.9%)

D'Youville was   26x59 from the field (44.1%),  11x28 from downtown (39.3%) and 25x35 from the line (71.4%)

The Blue Devils won the battle of the boards with a 42-26 margin but had 16 turnovers to 12 for the Spartans.                                     
   

Fredonia will be back in action on Friday, Nov.15th when they take on Vassar College in the  MIKE DALEY MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT being held at Nazareth College. Game time is 6:00 PM. Nazareth will take on Hunter College at 8:00 PM. The winners will play in the championship game on Saturday, Nov.16th at 3:00 PM. The losers will play in the conslolation game at 1:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on November 14, 2019, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: bearnation on November 13, 2019, 04:10:49 AM
I was looking at the Potsdam Bears upcoming schedule and had to do a double take on the game next Tuesday 11/19/19.  It says that my bears are playing Albany.  It's been a long time since this two rivals have played.  I'm sure it will not be like the Doc and Jerry battles but it would be fun if the Bears knock off a Division I program

Only two posts in four years.  Let's get with the program.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 05:31:26 PM
Nov. 15                Seven games for the SUNYAC scheduled for tonight. Four of those teams....Oswego, Plattsburgh, Oneonta and Cortland are hitting the court to open their season.   


Ithaca    vs    Oswego State  at Elmira College        5:30 PM

Both of these teams are looking to do well in their respective conferences. Ithaca, now in their 2nd year as a Liberty League member, after leaving the Empire 8 conference, has hopes of winning a league championship, after making the playoffs and losing to league champion, Skidmore, in the semi-finals to end last season. The Bombers return 8 players who averaged double digit minutes last season including 3 starters. They also get back a potential 4th starter,  6'5" Senior guard Jake Mitchell who only played in 8 games last year but started in 5 of those games. Riley Thompson a six foot Senior guard led Ithaca with 472 points last year and will get help from Sebastian Alderete, a 6'5" Senior guard who had 445 points last season along with 5.4 rpg.

Oswego State returns 3 starters from last year's SUNYAC Champions, who made it to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament and ended the year with a 24-6 record. They return 6'3" Senior guard Brandan Gartland (3rd team all conference) who averaged 13.0 ppg and 4.2 rpg and floor leader Liam Sanborn a 6 foot Junior guard who was a SUNYAC 1st team All Conference performer. Sanborn averaged 12.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg and 6.2 assists per game. The 3rd member of the Lakers' triumvirate is 6'5" Senior forward Joe Sullivan who averaged 10 ppg and 7.4 rpg. Oswego had a short bench last year and return just 4 players who had significant court time but the addition of 2 transfers and 11 underclassmen will hopefully provide the necessary reinforcements to back up the returning veterans.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a 5 point favorite in this game, but I think it might be a bit closer. I'm taking the Lakers to win a close one 78-75.
             
   
Fredonia State  vs  Vassar        6:00 PM         @ Nazareth College ;D

The Blue Devils could match last season's win total with a W in tonight's game but the Brewers return enough firepower that will give Fredonia a tough time to start a win streak. Vassar is playing their first game so maybe that will give the Blue Devils a slight leg up since they've already got those first game jitters out of the way. Still the experts think that Vassar is the better team here and have made them a 6 point favorite. I had the Blue Devils in their opener but I'm going to go with the Brewers in this one. Fredonia hangs in there but comes up a bit short and falls by a 79-75 score.     



Farmingdale State  vs  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM  @ Hartwick College    V LS LS

Lots of changes at Plattsburgh this fall. Coach Tom Curle is now an athletic director at William Peace College down south and Mike Blaine is the new head coach of the Cardinals. And he will certainly have his work cut out for him. The Cardinals lost their entire starting five which included 2 time SUNYAC Player of the Year Jon Patron and All Conference performers, Chris Middleton and Brandon Johnson.

Coach Blaine wasn't hired until the 3rd week of September so he was already behind the other coaches in the YAC. He had to hire an assistant, learn about his players, try to find the right combinations and move his family to a new city. Those were just a few of the obstacles in the way. Now it's time to open the season and the Cardinals will be shorthanded with some players still rehabbing some injuries.

Farmingdale State will pose some problems for Plattsburgh as they have a solid team led by 6'5"  Senior guard/forward Troy Feeney. They like to play an up tempo game and have good size as they start 3 other forwards that are 6'6", 6'5", and 6'4". Their point guard is a 5'7" dynamo Anthony Miller who had 19 the other night against New Paltz. Feeney had 26 points and 11 rebounds as they beat the Hawks 93-90.

Plattsburgh will counter with 6'4" Senior guard Nick DeAngelis who is the Cardinals top returning scorer with 9.0 ppg last year. Adam Jaquish, a 6'7" Senior who averaged 3.8 ppg and 4.3 rpg  will also be counted on as he now becames the Cardinals main inside guy but he may not be available for the first few games. Travis Cox, a 6'1" Junior guard, has shown he has the ability to be a solid starter and Jeremy Eisenman could see extended minutes that will showcase his shooting ability.


The oddsmakers have Plattsburgh listed as a 7 point in this game but I'll be surprised if the Cardinals can come away with a win here. I think the Rams will be a handful and see them coming away with the win. Farmingdale 82 Plattsburgh 74. But I sure hope I'm wrong.       

     

Alvernia  @  Oneonta        7:30 PM

The Red Dragons return everyone and will be in the thick of the SUNYAC race all season. Alvernia loses several of their top players but brings back a solid group of returning lettermen. The Golden Wolves from the MAC Commonwealth Conference were middle of the pack last season and will probably be in a similar spot this season.  The point spread has the Red Dragons favored by 10 points. I think they win by a few more. Oneonta 88 Alvernia 75 .


Running out of time so these will be quick picks


Wilson  @  Geneseo        8:00 PM

The Knights regroup after the loss to Rochester.  Wilson already 0-2 so someone will get their first win of the season tonight. I'll take the Knights to beat the Phoenix. Oddsmakers have Geneseo favored by 4 points. Sounds about right. Geneseo 76   Wilson 70.

   
Medaille  @  Buffalo State        8:00 PM

The Mavericks put up a pretty good fight against Wooster the other night. Buffalo State fell to Nazareth. I think the Bengals will be tested again tonight but this time come away with the win. Oddsmakers have them favored by 5 points, I think they win by a 76-74 final

   
Cortland  @  SUNY-Purchase        8:00 PM

Cortland opens their season on the road and they are favored by 6 points to grab the win. The Panthers already played their opener and lost to Sage by 4. I think Cortland wins this one 80-70.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 06:26:15 PM
Oswego leads Ithaca 48-36 at halftime.

Brandan Gartland with a big first half for the Lakers as he tosses in 16 points on 5x8 shooting. 4 of those field goals were from downtown, including one as the period came to an end.  Jeremiah Sparks has 9 points and 4 rebounds. Joe Sullivan has 7 points and 5 rebounds. Liam Sullivan 4 pts and a assists. Lakers firing on all cylinders.

Ithaca gets 11 points from Skylar Sinon on 5x8 shoting. Sebastian Alderete and Riley Thompson both had 8 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 15, 2019, 07:06:06 PM
Vassar leads Fredonia 37-23 with 15 minutes left in the 2nd Half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 07:08:25 PM
Oswego State defeats Ithaca 85-80.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 07:43:27 PM
Plattsburgh State game tips off in a few minutes. Cardinals will start 3 freshmen.  Not sure if I have ever witnessed that before. I don't think so. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 08:28:19 PM
Plattsburgh State trails Farmingdale State 47-45 at the half.

The Cardinals were down 27-13 at one point and got a huge first half from Travis Cox who scored 19 points. Cards also got a big lift when Nick DeAngelis came off the bench and scored 10 points with 3 boards and a pair of assists

Farmingdale State got 13 points and 4 rebounds from Hunter Schenkel. Tron Feeney added 10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 08:59:11 PM
Cortland trails Purchase 45-37 at the half.


16 points by Eric Edwards to lead Cortland. Ben Walters added 10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 09:48:43 PM
Oneonta loses on a last second 3 pointer to Alvernia 71-70.

Oneonta was up by 5 points at 68-63 with 1:29 left to play. Alvernia hits a jumper, Oneonta misses on their end, Alvernia drains a three and with 22 seconds left and tied at 68 the Red Dragons call a time out. With 13 seconds left Dylan Trombley scores inside on a layup to give Oneonta the lead. Alvernia comes down takes a 3 point shot with 6 seconds to go which is off the mark, however the Golden Wolves get the offensive rebound and throw up an off balance three pointer that goes in with less than a second left to play. Tough way to open the season. Hope the Red Dragons learn from this game and move forward. Thought they were the better team and just didn't get the breaks.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 10:14:05 PM
Buffalo State defeats Medaille 86-76


Cortland State edges Purchase 87-86 on a three pointer by Ryan Schmadel with 3 seconds left to play.


Geneseo State rolls over Wilson the last score I got was 80-47 but live stats and the video were not good.
Update:  Final score was Geneseo 92 Wilson 56.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 10:22:17 PM
Fredonia State defeats Vassar College by a 64-56 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 15, 2019, 10:35:01 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 15, 2019, 07:06:06 PM
Vassar leads Fredonia 37-23 with 15 minutes left in the 2nd Half.

bear,

I think the format of that live stat page might have had you looking at the wrong column. Fredonia was the team that was ahead 37-23 in the 2nd half.  In fact the Blue Devils never trailed the entire game and had a double digit lead 7 minutes into the game. Fredonia is 2-0 and already equaled their win total of last year, a week into this year's season.  8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2019, 03:22:06 AM
What a difference a week makes.  Proud of the way my BENGALS bounced back vs a spunky Medaille squad today. Kay Grant continues to deliver (17 pts and 8 board) and Aaron Davis is showing that last weeks performance was no fluke. This freshman is giving the BENGALS something at pt guard that they haven't seen in a freshman since Norman Simmons.  Aaron's 19 pts ( 6 of 12 shooting) and 6 assists are just what the dr ordered.  Shelton Adams seems to have found his touch after a dismal season opening performance last week.  The most pleasant surprise was Jordan (JC) Christopher.  His double double (14 boards 13 pts) made my day. JC is probably one of the most quiet BENGALS in recent memory, but tonight his actions spoke louder than words.

Having watched a tough Washington Jefferson squad sneak by Morrisville ( who just beat Brockport) in the 1st game of the Coles tournament today, let's me know that we have our work cut out for us tomorrow!  Got a long way to go and a lot of work to do, but after seeing the fight my boys had today......I'm encouraged!

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:58:24 AM
Nov. 16            Six more games on tap on today all in weekend tournaments.  Four teams playing in the championship game and 2 teams trying to come back by winning the consolation matchup. The YAC went 5-2 yesterday. I'm hoping we can go 4-2 or better today.

   
Very busy so only time for some quick picks.
   

Plattsburgh State  vs CCNY  2:00 PM  at Hartwick College   Consolation game of the Hartwick Basketball Tip-Off Tournament

Cardinals impressed me with their comeback and hanging with Farmingdale State yesterday. The freshmen played good and they will get better. I think Plattsburgh can win this game but I don't think it will be as much as the 30 points posted by the oddsmakers. It is my birthday though and I would like a present soooo Let's Go Cards!! The long bus ride home will be better with a win.   Plattsburgh 89   CCNY 70. 

   
Wesley  at  Oneonta State        3:00 PM                    Consolation game of the Oneonta Quality Inn Tournament

Oneonta let one get away yesterday and the players should come back with a vengeance today.  The point spread favors the Red Dragons by 9. I think they win 86-79.   

        
Fredonia  at  Nazareth        3:00 PM                             Championship game of the    Mike Daley Tip-Off Tournament

The Blue Devils have won 2 in a row, but I think they come up short in this one. The point spread in 15 points  and I'm hoping that Fredonia can pull off the upset here. I just can't predict it....Nazareth wins but the Blue Devils beat the spread.
Final score Naz 80 Fredonia 69. Hope I'm wrong.

Geneseo State  at  Gettysburg  4:00 PM                            Championship game of the Gettysburg Tip-off Tournament

The Knights are slight 2 point underdogs in this game so I'll go with the conference team and hope they can beat the Bullets at home. Final score Geneseo 75 Gettysburg 71.



Washington and Jefferson  at  Buffalo State   4:00 PM         Championship game of the Coles Classic Tournament.

The Bengals are looking to win the Coles Classic for the first time in 3 years. They are favored to do so by a 9 point margin. That might be a tall order as the Presidents beat Morrisville State 63-59 yesterday to get into this championship game. And just in case you forgot... Moville State beat Brockport last week, 73-70. The Bengals had 4 guys in double figures yesterday and looked good beating Medaille by 10. I'll ride the Bengals for another day but not sure they cover the 9 points. Buffalo State 81  Wash and Jeff 76.



Oswego State  vs Keystone College  4:00 PM   at Elmira     Championship of the Elmira Tip Off Tournament

The Lakers played a solid first half yesterday to lead by 12 points at the break over Ithaca. The 2nd half was a bit of a letdown and they allowed the Bombers to hang around far longer than they should have. Still, it was the first game and you take the win and improve as the season goes along. Freshman Jeremiah Sparks had a nice debut as he scored 15 points, with 4 boards and a couple of helpers. Another new face, Jordan Brown had 9 points and 8 boards in 17 minutes of court time. Both newcomers started by the way. Sophomore Julien Crittendon, who showed promise last year at times, came off the bench to provide a nice scoring punch at crucial points in the game. The 3 returning starters... Sanborn, Sullivan and Gartland has 9, 11 and 22 points respectively. Sullivan controlled  the boards with a dozen rebounds and Sanborn dished out 8 assists. 

Keystone advanced to the title game by downing the host Elmira Soaring Eagles by a 77-68 final score. The Giants had 4 guys hit double figures, so they have options on offense. At least they did against Elmira. The Lakers may prove to be a bit tougher to score on.

The Lakers assistant coach James Holmes, needs to keep an eye on Coach Leone today. He may have a tendency to walk back to the wrong bench at certain points in the game when he's traversing the sidelines. Might try the Mike Deane trick and put a seat belt on his chair. ;D Today marks the first time Coach Leone and the Lakers have faced off against the Keystone Giants since he left Keystone to take the Oswego job for the 2011-12 season. So you can excuse him if he goes to the wrong bench. The sight of those Keystone jerseys may cause some momentary flashbacks.

The oddsmakers don't think the Oswego coach will be too kind to his former team though, as they have made the Lakers a 21 point favorite. That sounds like a lot and I think the coach will get everyone into the game if the lead get large. I'm taking the Lakers to win but by a few less that the spread. Oswego 88  Keystone 72. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2019, 09:11:59 AM
Happy Birthday MAGICMAN.  Enjoy your day buddy!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 02:59:20 PM
Plattsburgh State leads CCNY 37-31 at halftime.

The Cardinals opened up a 16 point lead at 29-13 with 8:27 to play in the half but 7 turnovers and 3x11 shooting from that point on let the Beavers back into the game. A 16-2 run allowed CCNY to close the gap to a 2 point 31-29 deficit with 2 minutes to go. The Cardinals then closed the half with a 6-2 burst to lead by 6 at the break. 

Travis Cox and Axel Rodriguez had 9 points each for the Cardinals. Nick DeAngelis with 5 points and 5 rebounds.

Athanasios Kamberis is the top scorer for CCNY. Yassine Sakh has 8 points and 6 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 03:38:16 PM
Plattsburgh State  defeats CCNY  79-62   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
Oneota leads Wesley 37-30 at the break.

Joseph Bull with 12 points and 6 rebounds to lead the Red Dragons. Harrison Deegan with 6 points 7 boards and 4 assists. Andres Rivera and Kevin Mackin both with 6 points.

Brian Cameron leads Wesley with 11 points.  Mychal Stefanides has 7 points and 5 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:07:00 PM
Oswego leads Keystone 46-35 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:09:17 PM
Buffalo State leads Washington and Jefferson 39-35 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:12:14 PM
Fredonia trailing Nazareth  69-52 with under 2 minutes left to play.


Geneseo trailing Gettysburg 48-31 with 17 minutes left in the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:16:07 PM
Oneonta falls to Wesley 86-70 as the Red Dragons give up a 10 point 2nd half lead and lose by double digits.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:57:11 PM
Oswego State defeats Keystone  92-81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:58:35 PM
Buffalo State downs Washington and Jefferson 78-71.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:59:33 PM
Gettysburg over Geneseo 78-58.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 06:06:11 PM
Fredonia State falls to Nazareth 71-54.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 16, 2019, 06:53:20 PM
Weekend Results

Friday November 15th         The SUNYAC goes 5-2

Ithaca 80   Oswego State  85

Fredonia State 64   Vassar  56

Farmingdale State 95    Plattsburgh State  84

Alvernia 71   Oneonta  70

Wilson 56  Geneseo 92

Medaille  76  @  Buffalo State  86

Cortland  87    SUNY-Purchase  86



Saturday November 16th              The SUNYAC goes 3-3

Plattsburgh State  79    CCNY  62

Wesley  86  at  Oneonta State  70

Fredonia  54     Nazareth  71

Geneseo State  58    Gettysburg  78

Washington and Jefferson  71    Buffalo State  78

Oswego State 92    Keystone College  81

The SUNYAC goes  8-5 for the weekend
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 16, 2019, 11:43:36 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 16, 2019, 05:58:35 PM
Buffalo State downs Washington and Jefferson 78-71.

Yes we did. Clearly the message sent to the Yac is Sheldon Adams is back ( that rhymes?).  Tourney mvp finished with 31pt on 11/20 shooting.  Shelly stepped up big in first half with 20 pts. as Buff State went into the half up 39-35.  Jordan Christopher finished with nearly his 2nd double double (13 pts and 8 boards). A hobbled Kay Grant chipped in 8 and 6.  However another freshman stepped up big today. Argjend  Ameri chipped in 10 pts off the bench along with adding some stellar defense in a crucial time. 2nd frosh in 2 days to make a significant contribution.

1st time the BENGALS have win the Coles tournament in 3 years. Now all I need us the Bills to win tomorrow  its a great weekend !

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2019, 03:50:04 AM
Weekend Summaries.


Farmingdale State defeats Plattsburgh State 95-84 

The Cardinals trailed the entire game but were never out of it after the big push they made to narrow the gap to 2 points at the break. Finding themselves down 32-16 with 8:17 left in the half didn't bode well for Plattsburgh but a 9-0 run cut it to single digits at 33-25. After the Rams built the lead back to 40-30 the Cardinal ripped off another 8 unanswered points to cut the deficit to 40-38. It was still a 2 point game at the break. Farmingdale opened up an 8 point advantage early in the 2nd period and managed to stay in front by 2 possessions for the first 12 minutes of the period. Plattsburgh finally got within 2 once again, at 73-71 with 8:50 to play and again at 75-73 but couldn't get the turnover or stop they needed to complete the comeback or grab a lead. In the crucial point of the contest the Rams got a hoop and harm, Plattsburgh missed on their end and the Rams scored again after grabbing an offensive rebound. The lead was back to 7 and Plattsburgh could never get it back to a single possession game. Twice they came within 4 points, the last time at 88-84 with 1:33 remaining, after the Cardinals' Cameron Ness hit a pair of free throws. The Rams came down and drained a three ball and the Cards came up empty with their turn. They were forced to foul and the lead grew to 11 when the Cards couldn't get any 3 pointers to fall. Overall it was a good first game for this young team. They didn't panic when they fell way behind, and weren't afraid to be aggressive on the offensive end.

Plattsburgh had 4 players in double figures and several players set career highs. Three freshman broke into the scoring column with their first points in a Cardinal uniform. I was impressed with the freshmen players and think we will have a bright outlook for the next few years as these young men continue to get better.

Junior Travis Cox showed why he will be one of our most valuable assets as he scored a career high 25 points, grabbed 6 boards, had 3 blocks and 2 assists.

Senior Nick DeAngelis is the only returning Cardinal with a number of starts but came off the bench in this game, played 27 minutes and scored 19 points, with 6 rebounds, 3 assists and a block.

Freshman center Cameron Ness had a excellent game in his Cardinal debut. The big man scored 19 points (7x10 from the field) and had 10 rebounds to start his career with a double-double. He is only going to get better.

Senior Jeremy Eisenman has patiently been waiting his turn  and had a career high 11 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists while playing 39 minutes, more than anyone else in the game.

Freshman Axel Rodriguez filled up the stat sheet with 6 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal....with no turnovers as well. that will be a memorable first game for Axel. He will be a force for the Cardinals for the next 4 years.

Freshman Jalen Marshall came off the bench to score his first points as a Cardinal making both shots he took to score 4 points. He added 3 rebounds a steal and 1 assist in 11 minutes on the court. I look forward to seeing him playing at Plattsburgh over the next 4 years.

         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2019, 05:09:00 AM
Weekend Summaries.

Plattsburgh State 79  CCNY 62

The Cardinals evened their record at 1-1 as they took the consolation game of the Hartwick Basketball Tip-Off Tournament and handed Coach Mike Blaine his initial victory as the Plattsburgh State Head Basketball Coach. I'm sure it will be the first of many more to come.

In this game it was the Cardinals that had the double digit lead after 10 minutes of play, as they broke away from the Beavers with a 16-4 run that turned an 11-9 lead into a 27-13 advantage. Yesterday it was Plattsburgh, who was on the short end of a 27-13 score after about 10 minutes of play. And also just like yesterday, when the Cardinals rebounded to close within 2 points of Farmingdale,  the Beavers fired up their offense and outscored Plattsburgh 16-4 over the next 8 minutes, to tighten the game up to a single possession at 31-29. The Cards got a layup from freshmen Jalen Marshall, a pair from the line by Jeremy Eisenman, and a dunk at the buzzer by Nick DeAngelis to take a 6 point lead into the locker room.

The teams traded baskets through the early part of the 2nd period with Plattsburgh holding onto a 3 to 6 point edge. Gradually the lead grew until it once again reached double figures when Axel Rodriguez drained a 3 pointer, to make it 56-45. The Beavers countered with a threeball of their own but DeAngelis drove to the basket for a layup and Rodriguez buried another triple to lead another Cardinal outburst that put Plattsburgh in front 75-53 with only 4:42 to go. CCNY chose not to start the foul parade and the Cards had their first win of tthe season.

Travis Cox was the leading scorer in the game with 19 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists. He was selected to the All-Tournament Team.

Freshman Axel Rodriguez reset his career high with 15 points. He added 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Freshman Cameron Ness had 12 points, 7 rebounds, and 3 assists.

Freshman Erik Salo scored his first points as a Cardinal and just missed a double-double with 10 points and 9 boards.

Nick DeAngelis had 12 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists.

Jeremy Eisenman had 7 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal in a team high 34 minutes.

Sophomore guard Marlon Todd came off the bench and scored his first basket as a Cardinal. He also had 6 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal in 21 minutes on the court.

Plattsburgh (1-1) will return to action on November 19th when they will host St. Lawrence at 7:30 PM. It will be the home opener and the only time the Cardinals will be at home until after the New Year.  Only 11 home games this year.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2019, 01:04:08 PM
Nov. 17      Just a single game scheduled for today

Potsdam State  @  NVU-Lyndon     2:00 PM

The Bears travel East to take on NVU-Lyndon, formerly known as Lyndon State. The NVU part is Northern Vermont University. There is also NVU-Johnson which used to be called Johnson State. Personally, I think they changed the names just so they didn't have to refer to all the Lyndon Johnson matchups whenever the two teams met in a sporting event, which happened a large number of time each year when you factor in all the men's and women's sports they played against each other. I imagine there were countless times the inevitable joke would pop up and it got pretty annoying after a while. At least that sounds like a good reason for the name change. I'm still trying to figure out all the different things we have going on in the SUNYAC. It used to be easy when we were all Potsdam State, Plattsburgh State or Oswego State. Now it's SUNY Potsdam, Plattsburgh State, or The College at Brockport. I continue to use the State moniker on all the schools. I'm old... I can do that. I went to Potsdam State and I now live in Plattsburgh State country. So there will never by a SUNY Plattsburgh or Potsdam in my lifetime.  ;D

Back to the ballgame. The Bears are playing a team that has a certain similarity to the Potsdam teams of a few years ago. Lyndon has a record of 6-43 over the past 2 seasons. They were 2-22 two years ago and doubled their win total last year going 4-21. This year they have already won 2 games beating Massachusetts College 95-88 and downing Norwich 103-97.  They lost to Vermont Tech, a USCAA college by a 106-97 score. Their latest game was a visit to play the DI Bryant University Bulldogs. They lost that game by a 116-67 final score but hung with the big dogs for 16 minutes of the first half and actually had the lead for a good stretch, midway through the period. Bryant ended the half on a 20-7 run and a 31-11 explosion to start the 2nd half put the game away.

Potsdam should win this game and is favored to do so by a 16 point margin. But this team scores a lot of points and takes a lot of 3 pointers. They play an up tempo game and use a lot of substitutions. Probably a modified Grinnell System, but I'm guessing since I haven't seen them play. Just know they are taking a lot of shots and a lot of 3's.

Potsdam needs to take care of the ball and limit their turnovers. Don't let this team hang around. Get up on them early and hold the lead. A first half like the SLU game would be nice.  I'll take the Bears to win this one 105-93.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 17, 2019, 02:51:55 PM
Magic, pretty close on the Bears at halftime, they have scored 56 at the break, NVU-Lyndon has 35 at the break helped by a foul on a three with :03 where all three were made. BTW Low D-I Bryant only led 57 - 41 in an Ex on Friday.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2019, 02:58:56 PM
Potsdam State leads NVU-Lyndon 56-35 at the half.

The Bears do exactly what I asked them to do and jumped out to an early double digit lead. They scored the first 9 points of the game and were up 13-3 only 4 minutes in. The lead varied between 6 -11 points over the next 10 minutes until Potsdam, up by 7 at 32-25, scored 10 straight points to go up 42-25 and coast into the break up by 21. Now they just need to keep the pressure on and not allow the Hornets to get back into the game.

Danny Delsol-Lowry has 16 points to lead the Bears.
Brandon Segar jr has 15 points, 8 rebounds and 3 assists.
Jayquan Thomas has 13 points and 5 rebounds.


Jahleel Gabriel has 8 points and 4 rebounds for the Hornets.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2019, 03:02:31 PM
Quote from: thebear on November 17, 2019, 02:51:55 PM
Magic, pretty close on the Bears at halftime, they have scored 56 at the break, NVU-Lyndon has 35 at the break helped by a foul on a three with :03 where all three were made. BTWLow D-I Bryant only led 57 - 41 in an Ex on Friday.

Bear,

As per my bolded type of your post apparently you're not paying attention to my pregame prognostications where I was all over that DI Bryant game.  ;D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 17, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
Final score Potsdam State 96   NVU-Lyndon 79
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 18, 2019, 11:56:07 AM
The SUNYAC is off and Running.

My Oneonta Red Dragons did not get off to a good start.
I know it's early, but it would have been nice if they came out the gate a little better.

Happy to see that the Plattsburgh Cardinals and the Buffalo State Bengals are off to good starts.
The season is always better when the Magicman and Bengalsrule are Happy campers.

The Magicman as always is on top of his game with his game analysis.
It's as if I'm at the game.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 18, 2019, 05:54:40 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 17, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
Final score Potsdam State 96   NVU-Lyndon 79

Bears travelled to the far reaches of Northern Vt, and came home with a W.  Bears posted a season high 96 points and held NVU-Lyndon [which had been averaging 96 ppg to 79]. Potsdam starters Danny Delsol-Lowry had 25 to lead all scorers.  Newcomers Brandon Segar Jr and Tyrese Baptiste had double doubles with 24 pts, 14 rebs, and 20 points 10 rebounds respectively, leading scorer Jayquan Thomas hit his season average of 19 pts.  Bears have an exhibition game at D-I Albany tomorrow night.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 18, 2019, 06:30:22 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 18, 2019, 11:56:07 AM
The SUNYAC is off and Running.

My Oneonta Red Dragons did not get off to a good start.
I know it's early, but it would have been nice if they came out the gate a little better.

Happy to see that the Plattsburgh Cardinals and the Buffalo State Bengals are off to good starts.
The season is always better when the Magicman and Bengalsrule are Happy campers.

The Magicman as always is on top of his game with his game analysis.
It's as if I'm at the game.

WE all know that Cam will have his dragons breathing serious fire come February!

The YAC is BACK!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 19, 2019, 02:07:10 PM
Tuesday   Nov. 19   

Eight teams in action today with some interesting matchups. Four games will feature a Liberty League team vs a SUNYAC team. The top 4 SUNYAC teams from last year will play the LL's 2nd 3rd 4th and 9th place teams from last year. The numbers in parentheses are the place the team finished last year. Interesting that the first three  LL  vs YAC games listed below are #3 vs #3, #4 vs #4 and #2 vs #2. Also feel that they are all fairly even games and could all go either way.   
   

Hobart (LL #3)  at  Brockport State (YAC #3)    LL  vs  SUNYAC   5:30 PM

Brockport looking for a little payback as they lost a close one to Hobart last year in Geneva by a 79-75 final score. Port let that one get away as they had a 75-68 lead with just 4:30 left to play, but they never scored another point. The Golden Eagles missed their last 8 shots and had 2 turnovers to allow the Statesmen to claim the victory. That one had to hurt, so revenge would be sweet. The teams have met 8 times in the past 10 years with 5 of those games taking place in Hobart's gym. They've split those 8 games but the Statesmen haven't won in their 3 visits to Brockport.

Hobart opened their season with a win over NYU while Port dropped another close game, this time to Morrisville. That loss was almost a carbon copy of the Hobart loss from last year, as once again the Golden Eagles had a 6 point lead with under 5 minutes to play. They were 1x8 from the field with 2 turnovers and lost by 3 points. Hoping some lessons were learned and they can close out their games a little better.

The point spread has Brockport favored by 4 points. Port didn't have Antonio Alvarez, one of their best 3 point shooters in the opening game. I hope he's available tonight.  I'm taking Brockport to win this one 77-74       

   
Fredonia State  at  Waynesburg     PAC  vs SUNYAC   6:00 PM

The Blue Devils are also looking for some revenge as they dropped a 3 point 81-78 decision to Waynesburg last year at home. This year they travel to Pennslyvania and try to turn the tables. Both teams return much from last year so it should be another competitive matchup. The Yellow Jackets are favored by a single point and are looking for their first win as they lost a pair of games to John Carroll and Allegheny College. Both losses were by 20 points. Fredonia looking to eclipse last year's win total with a victory tonight. I'll take the Blue Devils to win a close one 73-70.

   
Geneseo State  at  Alfred         Empire 8 vs SUNYAC       7:00 PM

The Knights defeated Alfred last year and the Saxons had a pretty good team. And the Knights beat them by 16 points. This Alfred team won the Empire 8 conference regular season, then won the conference tournament to go dancing and won a first round game in the tournament. They only had 5 losses and 2 of them were to teams in the YAC, with Brockport being the other team. They did lose considerable firepower from that team but still return 2 starters and 3 solid rotation players from last year. Freshman guard Mike Schmidt is starting and averaging 11 ppg. They will be a handful for the Knights and the Saxons will be hopeful it's their turn tonight on their home court. The Saxons are favored by 9 points in this one but I'll take Geneseo and hope they can make amends for their last outing against Gettysburg.  Geneseo 72 Alfred 69

   
Ithaca (#4)  at  Cortland State (4)             LL vs SUNYAC      7:00 PM

Maybe the Red Dragons can avenge the loss the Cortland football team had to Ithaca over the weekend in Met Life Stadium. The annual Cortaca Jug game was played in front of 45,161 people making it the largest attendance of any DIII football game in history. The Red Dragons lost the game 32-20 but it was 26-20 late in the 4th quarter before Ithaca made it a 2 possesion game with 3 minutes to go. Cortland lost because the best player from ithaca...their quarterback, ran for 3 touchdowns (1 yd, 1yd, and 10 yds) and passed for 2 more (23 yds and 46 yds). Ironic part was the quarterback played at Brockport for the last 3 years and transferred to Ithaca this year hoping to make the NCAA tourney. More irony...Ithaca lost the Liberty League automatic bid to Union who beat them 31-21 and Brockport won the Empire 8 conference and got their automatic bid. Brockport will be dancing and Ithaca will stay home.

Back to hoops though....Cortland won their opening game with a last second 3 pointer by Ryan Schmadel that gave them an 87-86 victory over SUNY-Purchase. Somehow after leading for the first 10 minutes of the game they ended up down by 11 with under 2 minutes in the half. They cut the gap to 8 points at the break but found the deficit twice as large with 13:32 left in the game and trailing by a 16 point margin at 61-45. They fought back to get it to a 2 possession game with 9:34 to go and then finally down to a single trip with 6 minutes to go to tie or take the lead, but couldn't seem to get over that hump. With under a minute left and down by 3, Cortland rebounded a Panther's miss, and Coach Spanbauer took a timeout. They got the ball to Jake DiSanto who made his 3rd shot of the second half. It was his 3rd bucket from long distance, and it tied the score at 84 with 38 seconds to go. Purchase called time out, got fouled with 16 seconds left and sank 2 free throws. That set the stage for Schmadel's game winner and he broke their hearts when it went in.

Ithaca has opened the season 1-1 with a loss to Oswego State and a win over host Elmira in the consolation game of the Elmira Tip Off Tournament over the weekend. Oswego led by as much as 18 points over the Bombers in the first half and settled for a 12 point edge at the break. The largest lead of the 2nd half was 13 points but Ithaca hung in there and stayed within striking distance. The Lakers couldn't seem to put them away and on several occasions the Bombers were as close as 4 points before Oswego would open it back up to create more daylight. Cortland will have their hands full and I think this game could go down to the wire.

The oddsmakers have made Cortland a slim 2 point favorite in this one. I think they're correct and see a final score of 83-81 with the Red Dragons on top.         

   
Williams  at  Oneonta State        NESCAC vs SUNYAC        7:00 PM

Williams will be a tall order for these Red Dragons....literally! The Ephs have a bunch of tall bodies as 13 of their 15 players are 6'3" or taller and most of them are of that..."or taller" variety. 5 guys are 6'5", 4 guys are 6'8", 1 is 6'7 and 1 is 6'11". Their last game against SUNYIT  they started 4 players that were 6'5" and 1 that was 6'8".  When they bring in a sub he's bigger than the guy that was on the floor. The Ephs lost a lot from last year but they always reload, they're a NESCAC school and have no problem getting their share of talent from around the country. Remember Duncan Robinson, who was a promising freshman a few years ago. So promising that he took his talents to Michigan for 2 years and now laces em up for the Miami Heat. They probably don't have another Duncan Robinson, but they have a few freshman who look promising.

Oneonta has lost the last 3 games they've played against Williams after winning the first two times they squared off against them. They would also like to turn their season opening losing streak around as well, since they lost both games of their weekend tournament. Pretty sure that was not the plan when it was drawn up. They let the Alvernia game get away from them after leading by 5 with 1:29 to play and they were right back in the same place the next day when they had a double digit lead that turned into a double digit deficit.
They are too good of a team to continue to play like this.

Having said that, they will be hard pressed to get a W in this game tonight. The oddsmakers have listed the Red Dragons as a 12 point underdog and I can't pick them to win this game either. They were outrebounded by a sizable margin against Wesley and the Ephs will be even harder to keep off the glass. I can see Oneonta beating the spread but have them losing this one 82-73. Sure hope I'm wrong.           


Potsdam State (#8)  at  DI Albany (N.Y.)        7:00 PM

No idea what will happen here. I hope the Bears can score at least 50 points and hold the Great Danes to less than 100. Hoping for something like a final score of  95-59.    I would consider that a victory. 


St. Lawrence (#2)  at  Plattsburgh State (#2)       LL vs  SUNYAC   7:30 PM

The Saints will march into Memorial Hall with a chance to grab just their 2nd win in the last 11 years as Plattsburgh holds a 9-1 record over that stretch. The Saints won at home 2 years ago but have come up empty the last 2 years and with the Cardinals' starting five from last season, lost to graduation, the Saints have hopes of starting a streak. The problem is that the Saints are kind of in a rebuilding mode of their own as they lost 4 of their top 6 guys. Plattsburgh is 1-1 on the season with a loss to a decent team and a win over a not too decent team. The Saints are 0-1, having lost to Potsdam State when the Bears put up 63 points on them last week. Not 63 points in the game.....63 points in the first half, and coasted to a 10 point win. The Saints have a lot of young faces but so do the Cardinals, who started 3 freshman in both of their games over the weekend. SLU only started 1 freshman.

The Cardinals are favored to win this game by 10 points but I think that's a few too many. I think the outcome could go either way depending on who has the better night shooting the rock. I'll be surprised if either team blows out the other. I'll take my Cardinals of course, but think they only win it by an 80-75 final score.   

 


Oswego State (#1)  at  Clarkson (#9)        LL vs SUNYAC        7:30 PM

The only  YAC-Liberty League that doesn't match the place they finished in as the Golden Knights were near the bottom of the LL and the Lakers were on top of the YAC.

Clarkson seems to be on the upswing as they've started out with a pair of wins. Still too early to tell how good the teams are that they defeated but I'm guessing they wouldn't be looked upon as quality wins. Oswego has owned the Knights over the past 4 years and is 5-1 against them in the last 10 years. But 3 years ago the Knights took the Lakers to overtime before losing and 2 years before that they won when the Lakers were 17-10. So yeah, they're a hocky school (meaning Clarkson not the Lakers, even though the Lakers are a hockey school as well) but the guys on the basketball team don't think that way. So Oswego needs to take care of business so they don't get taken care of. 

The point spread for this game has the Lakers favored by 11 points. I think that Oswego should cover that spread.  I think the final score will be something like Oswego  88  Clarkson 76
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2019, 07:52:27 PM
My Bears trail traditional rival [Now D-I] U-Albany 34-26 at the half Bears closed within 27-26 before a 7 point Danes run before halftime.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2019, 08:01:03 PM
Brockport Edges Hobart 75-74

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2019, 08:03:07 PM
Fredonia and Wayneburg tied 28-28 at the half
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 19, 2019, 08:06:06 PM
A bit of a surprise, Clarkson leads Oswego Lakers 26-24 late in the first half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 19, 2019, 09:12:57 PM
What a surprise, another game Downs loses because he stays in the zone.   Play man to man SLU wins this game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2019, 12:26:58 AM
Final Scores for Tuesday night   

SUNYAC went 5-3 overall  3-1 with our matchups against the Liberty League.

Big win by Oneonta in overtime against Williams.

Plattsburgh State 89  St Lawrence 84.               
I had Plattsburgh winning this one 80-75. Had the 5 point margin right on.

Oswego State 80 Clarkson 72                           
Not far off from my 88-76 prediction

Potsdam State 52  DI Albany 78                       
We scored 50 and held them under a 100 which I consider a win  I said 95-59 so holding them to 78 was really good. Heard the great Danes big man was out though so that helped the Bears. Still a good result for Potdsdam.

Oneonta State  74 Williams 69 in Overtime     
I had Williams beating the Red Dragons by a 82-73 final. But it was really a reverse logic plan of mine to get a win for Coach Conover. Twice I picked them to win last week and they burned me both times. So I figured I'd pick them to lose and they would win to burn me again. Works every time and who better to have it work against when it's Williams and the mighty NESCAC. Plus Coach Conover needed a win against the Ephs...he hadn't beaten them in 3 tries. Great job Oneonta, 8-)

Brockport State 75 Hobart 74
Just missed perfection on this one. I had it Port 77 and Hobart 74 I need to find out who missed the chippy.....OK just checked the box score and I'm blaming it on Danny Ashley. He missed all 4 of his free throws. If he goes just 50%  I make the perfect prediction. I'll be having words with him when he visits Plattsburgh on Jan. 11th.                         

Fredonia State  77 Waynesburg  64
Was close here as well. I had Fredonia winning 73-70. My 145 total was only 2 pts off.


Cortland State 74  Ithaca  77
Missed this one as I had Cortland winning by an 83-81 total. Ithaca is Cortland's Daddy thsi week with the two Cortaca wins in football and hoops.

Geneseo State 52 Alfred 58
Another one I missed   and the one I was most afraid of missing. I had the Knights winning 72-69 but Geneseo is showing the same inconsistency as last year. They went huge stretches in this game without scoring much. 5:30 seconds at the start of the 2nd half and they scored 2 points. Then another 5 minutes stretch where they only scored 2 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2019, 09:33:39 AM
Plattsburgh State 89  St Lawrence 84

Great game tonight at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. The fans got their money's worth in an exciting game that wasn't decided until the final few seconds. Both teams played hard and fast with the refs letting them play the first half (only 10 fouls called, 5 per side) before exercising their whistles a bit more in the 2nd period (22 fouls called 13 on the Saints and 9 on the Cards).

SLU quickly went on top and threatened to make the game a one sided affair, but the Cardinals settled down, hit a couple of 3 pointers and after falling behind by an 11-3 count managed to tie the score at 17 with 12:47 to play. After a Saints turnover, Nick DeAngelis did what he does best and drained a three to give Plattsburgh their first lead at 20-17. The rest of the period had the teams trading baskets with no more than a 2 possession lead. The Saints were up 41-38 when DeAngelis got his own rebound and fed Cameron Ness for a layup, that ended the half with the Cards down 41-40.

The 2nd period started out with 2 lead changes and a tie at 46 all with 18 minutes still to play and once again Nick DeAngelis went to the long ball and hit back to back three pointers, 30 seconds apart to give the Cardinals a 6 point lead. The Saints made two trips to the line going 1 of 2 each time but in between those free throws, Cameron Ness was getting free inside and making layups for Plattsburgh.  Seconds later, Marlon Todd, who had just entered the game for Plattsburgh, buried another three and the Cardinals had the first double digit lead of the night at 60-48. Plattsburgh continued to have the edge in play and gradually extended the advantage to to the largest of the night at 16 points, 68-52 with 10:28 on the clock.  Five minutes later the Saints had cut that lead in half and were back in the game. The teams traded 3 pointers, they traded two pointers and finally another 3 ball by Axel Rodriguez put the Cards back up by a comfortable 11 points with just 3:12 left to play. The Lead was still 11 with 1:49 left to go. Time to light up the cigar....not so fast said the Saints. SLU's Andrew Geschickter hit a three pointer, then got a steal and fed Brandon Arnold for an easy layup. The Cards committed another turnover and SLU quickly called a time out down by 6. Five seconds after the inbound pass when play resumed, Geschickter buried another one from downtown and the margin was just 3 points, It took only 46 seconds to cut the lead from 11 down to 3. It may well be the fastest I've ever seen that happen in Plattsburgh. The Cards then came down, missed on their end and the Saints scored again with 25 seconds left, to trail by a single point at 85-84. The Saints had to foul, putting Travis Cox on the line and he made both pressure packed free throws to increase the lead to three. SLU came down and fired up a three that was way off the mark (as I was yelling... foul them... foul them....don't let them shoot a three.) Saints fouled again and Axel Rodriguez made another pair to close out the scoring.

Plattsburgh State may not make the conference playoffs this year, but you will know, that when these guys take the floor, they play hard and don't quit. The 3 freshman who are starting are gaining valuable experience that they wouldn't ordinarily be getting as freshman on a team with a number of veterans. With only 11 players on the roster this year due to some unforseen reasons they are being asked to do things most first year players won't do for a year or two down the road. These young men are coming on strong and Plattsburgh, with its new head coach will be the better for it... sooner not later.

Nick DeAngelis captured scoring honors in tonight's game as he once again came off the bench and provided a big lift at the right moments. He had 20 points on 7x15 shooting and hit 4x9 from downtown. He added 5 rebounds 3 steals and 2 assists.

Jeremy Eisenman is shooting lights out so far this season and once again set a new career high with 18 points shooting 6x14 from the field. He was 5 of 8 from long distance which means he was only 1 for 6 from inside the arc. Jeremy please stay behind the line. He added 5 rebounds 2 steals and 1 helper.

Travis Cox had his time on the floor limited by foul trouble but still managed to score 14 points on 5x11 from the field and 4x4 from the line. He also had 5 rebounds, 3 steals, 1 assists and a block.

The freshman:
Cameron Ness had another double-double tonight of 15 points and a game high 12 rebounds. He was 7x9 from the field. He chipped in with a pair of assists and a steal. He is now averaging 15.3 ppg and 9.7 rebounds per game. And I know it's only 3 games into the season but I'm willing to bet that at the end of the season he'll be fairly close to those numbers. One more thing....18 players played in tonight's game. Cameron was the biggest player on the floor at 6'10" tall. He played 38 minutes and 20 seconds of a 40 minute game. More than anybody else in the contest.

Axel Rodriguez played the 2nd most minutes in the game with 37:16 minutes of court time. The point guard scored 12 points, had 5 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals.

Erik Salo had another solid game tonight with 10 rebounds, 7 points, 4 assists on several nice plays underneath and 3 steals. He reminds me of our recently graduated rebounding phenom Ian Howard....see ball... get ball.  These 3 guys are going to be the backbone  of some excellent Plattsburgh basketball teams down the road.

St. Lawrence also features a young team that will only get better. They had 5 guys in double figures led by Junior Brandon Arnold and Sophomore Luke Hicks with 17 points apiece. Freshman Trent Adamson and Freshman Andrew Geschickter had 14 points each and Adamson just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. These two guys could be fighting it out for Rookie of the Year honors in the Liberty League. I'd give the edge to Adamson right now and think he will be an All Conference performer as soon as next year possibly.
Junior Chris Jeffrey did have a double-double of 10 points and 10 boards.

The Saints could be in the same boat as the Cardinals this year and struggle at times to come up with wins, that should have been theirs. But next year the Saints will be competing for the Liberty League title and they could, with hard work, make a playoff run this year.


Plattsburgh improves to 2-1 and will return to action on Thursday night November 21st, when they travel to the Utica area to take on SUNY POLY at 7:00 PM.   (Why can't they just call it Utica State or Utica Tech or even SUNY UTICA since they got that whole SUNY thing going on. The poor school used to be Utica-Rome, then it was SUNYIT and now it's SUNYPOLY. It's never had a good name and SUNY POLY just sounds so bad...OK rant over)

St. Lawrence is now 0-2 and will play crosstown rival Canton  next Tuesday November 26th at 2:00 PM.                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Wednesday Nov. 20                           Just a single game on tap today

New Paltz State  @  Sage        7:00 PM

The Hawks won this matchup last year 77-72 in New Paltz. This year the game is at Sage. The Gators are 3-1 so far with their best game beng a 77-73 win over SUNY Purchase. Cortland had to drain a 3 pointer at the buzzer last weekend to beat Purchase 87-86. So the logic goes if Purchase can play with Cortland and Sage can beat Purchase then they shoud be able to hang with the Hawks. The guys that make the point spread feel the same way as they have the Hawks as a slim 3 point favorite. This should be a close game that could go either way. I'll stay on the Hawks and pick them to win by an 86-82 final score.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 20, 2019, 03:52:07 PM
Pretty Good night for the SUNYAC.

My Oneonta Red Dragons came through with A BIG WIN last night against Williams.
Don't think they have beaten Williams since the 2014-2015 team won at Williams the first time these teams met.

Need to keep it going against Hartwick.

Let's Go Red Dragons, Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 20, 2019, 04:17:50 PM
Want to let the Red Dragons know that I appreciate their win over Williams last night :D
Better yet, it was a game that allowed Amherst, my school, evaluate the Ephs....Amherst's "biggest" conference rival.  In overtime yet!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2019, 07:39:16 PM
Quote from: All-Time on November 20, 2019, 03:52:07 PM
Pretty Good night for the SUNYAC.

My Oneonta Red Dragons came through with A BIG WIN last night against Williams.
Don't think they have beaten Williams since the 2014-2015 team won at Williams the first time these teams met.

Need to keep it going against Hartwick.

Let's Go Red Dragons, Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Oneonta also beat Williams the following year, 2015-16 in Oneonta by a score of 75-62. The next year the Ephs returned the favor in Willytown by an almost identical score of 74-62 to start a 3 year streak of Williams' wins. So this series has been one of short streaks. Last night the Red Dragons put up their 74 points to, hopefully, start their own streak. The series now stands at 3-3. Interesting fact.... neither team has scored more than 75 points in the 6 games of this series. I think the scores are so similar year after year that it's D3hoops' version of Groundhog Day when these 2 teams meet.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2019, 07:59:22 PM
New Paltz 29 Sage 30 at the break.

Isaiah Bien-Aise hits a 3 pointer just as the buzzer sounds to pull the Hawks within a point at halftime. He leads the Hawks with 11 points and 3 rebounds.  Richard Altenord has 9 points and 2 rebounds. Nick Arthur has 5 points and 5 boards.

The Gators are led by Jalon Borders with 10 points and 3 rebounds.  Stuart Phair has 7 points and 9 rebounds.

Sage with an early 8 point lead and stayed in front most of the period with a 2 or 3 possession lead. The Hawks kept gaining until they took the lead at 26-25 on a pair of free throws by Altenord with 2 minutes left in the period.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: amh63 on November 20, 2019, 08:32:37 PM
Needed to clear up my previous post here. 
It is hard to beat Williams, even in an Ephs rebuilding year.  Big win for the Red Dragons.  Amherst's battles...twice a year...with Williams are just that...battles. 
Magicman knows about Nescac internal conference games.  Am aware of the SUNYAC schools.  Daughter works in Ithaca and her family resides in the village of Groton.  Am sure the the HC of Amherst has noted the Oneonta win.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 20, 2019, 09:48:09 PM
New Paltz defeats Sage 77-74.    

I had the Hawks winning by 4 points 86-82. The teams didn't get that many but the MOV was close. 

The Hawks come from 12 points down with 13 minutes left to finally catch and pass the Gators, 71-69 on a Tristan Wisseman triple with 3:50 to go. The Gators tied the score at 71 but Scott Reisert scored to put the Hawks in front to stay. Jake Passaretti scored on a drive to increase the Hawks' lead to 3 points but the Gators scored inside and the Hawks turned the ball over allowing Sage a golden opportunity with 34 seconds left. The Gators came up empty with 16 seconds on the clock and had to foul. Passaretti made both free throws and set the stage for Sage to try and make a game tying 3 pointer. They got off a clean shot that missed but got the rebound and fired up another 3 that was also off the mark. The Hawks had completed the comeback and improved to 2-1 on the season.

Richard Altenord  led 4 players in double figures with 17 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals.  Jake Passaretti had 16 points, 6 assists and 2 rebounds.   Isaiah Bien-Aise had 13 points and 7 rebounds.  RJ Meyers-Turner had 11 points and 3 rebounds. Nick Arthur came off the bench and filled up the stat sheet with 9 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks in 20 minutes of court time.

Sage was led by Stuart Phair with a double-double of 21 points and 11 rebounds. He captured game honors in both categories.
Jalon Borders added 18 points and 4 rebounds.

The Hawks were outrebounded 44-41 and had more turnovers than Sage, 20 to 15.  New Paltz outshot the Gators in every category though.  New Paltz was 8x21 from long range while Sage only went 5x30. That was the big difference. The Hawks shot 46.4% to 36.8% for Sage from the field.

New Paltz improves to 2-1 and will take the floor again this Saturday when they travel to Throggs Neck, NY to take on SUNY Maritime  at 1:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 01:14:01 AM
I may not be around here much in the next few days as I have to go into the hospital on Thursday for a surgical procedure. Nothing major but I'll be tied up for a few days.

I will be slowing down a bit this year and won't have as many predictions and summaries as I've usually had in the past. I'd like to thank the people who sent me well wishes with PM's and on facebook on my birthday last  Saturday. Also thanks to the many posters who have mentioned on here or sent me kind words concerning the content I post on the SUNYAC board. You know who you are.  8-)     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 21, 2019, 10:16:39 AM
Quote from: magicman on November 21, 2019, 01:14:01 AM
I may not be around here much in the next few days as I have to go into the hospital on Thursday for a surgical procedure. Nothing major but I'll be tied up for a few days.

I will be slowing down a bit this year and won't have as many predictions and summaries as I've usually had in the past. I'd like to thank the people who sent me well wishes with PM's and on facebook on my birthday last  Saturday. Also thanks to the many posters who have mentioned on here or sent me kind words concerning the content I post on the SUNYAC board. You know who you are.  8-)   

Praying that your surgery goes just fine Magic.   I have no doubt that you be back in action when SUNYAC goes full bore !  Take care buddy !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ucaafan on November 21, 2019, 03:27:15 PM
Wish you the best Magicman! You are a valuable resource and contributor to this board!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 07:04:31 PM
Home from surgery 10 minutes ago. Almost forgot my Cardinals are playing tonight.

Surgery went fine. Hope the next few days are as good.


Plattsburgh State at SUNY Poly  7:00 PM

Cardinals haven't played this team in a few years.  The last time we did was the NCAA Tournament in 2010 and they beat us in Plattsburgh 71-65. That one still stings a bit. Hopefully tonight we get a little payback. The point spread favors the Cardonals by a 7 point margin and I anticipate a close game.  I'll take the Cardinals to win it by an 82-74 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 07:47:12 PM
Plattsburgh 26    SUNY-Poly  40

Plattsburgh struggles from the field as they only shoot 9x29 from the field and 1x8 from behind the arc. They have their work cut out for them in the 2nd half. Cards trailed by as much as 17.

Erik Salo with 8 points and 3 rebounds to lead the Cards. Travis Cox also with 8 points and 2 rebounds.

Caleb Cabty with 12 points and 3 rebounds for the Wildcats. Josh Gregory with 9 points and 6 rebounds. Jesse O'Dell with 9 points and 3 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 08:35:24 PM
Oneonta State  at Hartwick  7:30 PM

Didn't realize that the Red Dragons were even playing a game tonight.  Just found out and pulled up the video  to discover that Oneonta is leading at halftime 31-29.  The point spread has the Red Dragons winning by 3 points. I think they win by a few more. Oneonta 77 Hartwick 71.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 08:38:29 PM
Plattsburgh 54 SUNY-Poly 71.

The Cardinals won't win many games when 2 of their best shooters go 0-19.  The team was 19X63 from the field (30.2%) and only 2x17 from long range (11.8%) That says all you need to know about this game.  I hope this is the worst game the Cardinals play all year because I don't want to watch another one like this.

Freshman Eric Salo led PLattsburgh with 17 points and 8 rebounds.

Travis Cox had 12 points and 5 rebounds.

Cameron Ness had 10 points and 5 rebounds.

Poor shot selection and some sloppy passing didn't help when Plattsburgh trailed by double figures and needed to get back into the game. Need to forget about this game and focus on the upcoming Skidmore game.

Cards fall to 2-2 and travel to Saratoga on Monday November 25th to resume their series with Skidmore. Gme time is 7:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 09:09:43 PM
Another game I was unaware of Cortland played Division I Colgate in an exhibition game.

The Red Dragons lost the game 89-50 which isn't too bad. We got 50 and held them under 100.

Eric Edwards let Cortland with 15 points and 6 rebounds. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 09:49:12 PM
Oneonta loses the crosstown battle with Hartwick 82-78.

Red Dragons fall behind 59-50 with under 8 minutes to play. They got within two points at 59-57 but the Hawks always seemed to have an answer and pulled away down the stretch going up by 7 on a big 3 pointer by Kyle Bradshaw with 54 seconds to go.

Bradshaw led the Hawks with 31 points and 9 rebounds as he took top honors for the game in both categories.

Kevin Mackin had 17 points for Oneonta. Harrison Deegan had 16 points, 8 boards, and 6 assists.

Andres Rivera had 14 points and 9 rebounds.

Ian Schultz had 11 points and 5 rebounds.

The Red Draggons fall to 1-3 and will play an exhibition game next Tuesday at Division I Binghamton University at 7:00 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 21, 2019, 10:11:34 PM
Thanks to my friends and fellow D3 fans for the PM's and well wishes concernng my hospital visit today.

Skin cancer in several spots required removal. Hopefully the surgeon got everything and I'll know more when the lab reports come back. Tuckered out from a long day, though.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 22, 2019, 05:38:14 PM
Nov. 22           Just a single game tonight involving SUNYAC teams.

Fredonia        Pitt-Bradford        7:00 PM

The Blue Devils beat Pitt-Bradford last year 79-53. It was one of the two games  that Fredonia had in the win column. THe Panthers only won 4 games last year and have started out 0-2 this year. The point spread has the Blue Devils favored by 11 which may not be enough. Last year Fredonia won 79-53 and the Panthers lost 4 starters to graduation. I think the Blue Devils will post another win, taking this game 83-70. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 07:00:55 AM
Fredonia 83    Pitt-Bradford 89

I didn't get a chance to watch this game so I can only guess at why the Blue Devils were on the short end of the score. The Panthers shot 60.9% from long distance, which translated into 14 made three pointers (14x23). Fredonia had 7 three's in 19 attempts. The zebras certainly kept their whistles in their mouths and not in their pockets. 45 fouls were called in this game so the officials certainly didn't let them play. I looked at 35 other box scores from Friday night and this game had the most fouls called. Pitt-Bradford went to the line 34 times. They were 27x34. The Blue Devils were 18 of 24. Most of the other stats were fairly even but those two areas were the downfall for Fredonia.

There were nine ties and 23 lead changes in the game. After taking a 75-74 lead on a jumper by the Blue Devils' Adam Braniecki,  with 4:44 left to play, Fredonia fell behind 79-75 when the Panthers scored inside, got a turnover and buried a threeball. Fredonia got 2 free throws from Moussa Samassa and a jump shot from Dydy Bryan to knot the score for a final time with 2:54 to play.  The Panthers got another three pointer to go in front to stay on thier next possession. Fredonia had 4 chances to score over the next 2 minutes as they missed a jumper, got the ball back on a turnover, missed another jumper, got the ball back on a steal, missed a 3 pointer, got an offensive rebound and then committed a turnover.  With 34 seconds left and down 3 they fouled and the Panthers made 1 of 2 to make it a two possession lead. Fredonia went to the line and made 1 of 2, had to foul and the Panthers made them both for a 5 point lead. Needing a quick score, the Blue Devils instead committed a turnover and this game was over. Panthers made another pair from the line, Fredonia hit a three pointer, fouled again and the Panthers hit another 2 from the line to close out the scoring.


Fredonia
Dydy bryan led the Blue Devils and captured scoring honors with 21 points and had 5 assists.

Moussa Samassa had 15 points and 6 rebounds.

Adam Braniecki  had 14 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, and 2 blocks.

Chad Biersbach had 13 points and 4 rebounds in 17 minutes off the bench.

De'Quan Smith had 12 points and 4 assists.

Chase Johnson only scored 2 points but led the team with 7 rebounds and had a pair of steals.



Pitt-Bradford
Jeffrey Fry led the Panthers with 19 points and 4 assists.

Justin Kusiappouh had a double-double with 12 points and a game high 10 rebounds.

Deondre Terwilliger and  Daniel Lynch both scored 14 points. Terwilliger had 5 rebounds and Lynch had 6 assists.

Alex Rodriguez had 12 points and  Zach Dahlstrand had 10.


Fredonia is now 3-2 and will be off until December 7th when they begin their SUNYAC conference season with a game against their travel partner at Buffalo State. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 12:57:51 PM
Nov. 23        Three games on the schedule for today all in the early afternoon.   


New Paltz State  at  SUNY-Maritime        1:00 PM

The Hawks won a close game over the Privateers last season, 77-73 and this is the rematch on their court. Maritime is only 1-4 and they have struggled to put points on the board in their last 3 games, all losses, as they failed to hit the 60 point mark. The Hawks have been averaging over 85 ppg. Maritime has been missing one of their starting guards so perhaps if he returns they will show improvement on the offensive end. The oddsmakers have made New Paltz a 14 point favorite here. They could win by more. I think the score will be.... New Paltz 82 Maritime 66.   


Houghton  at  Geneseo State                2:00 PM

Houghton isn't a team that the Knights have much history with as it looks like they only started playing aganst them recently. The series started 2 years ago and both games were Geneseo victories. Last year the Knights won 81-46. The first game, played at Geneseo 2 years ago, came right down to the wire as it was a 2 point game with 30 seconds to go. The Knights held off the Highlanders in that game to win it 85-78. Houghton comes into this game with a 1-3 record, the same mark as Geneseo, yet the point spread favors the Knights by a 15 point margin. I think that may be a bit high. Houghton lone win came against the team that beat Fredonia last night, Pitt-Bradford, and the score of that game was 92-79. I think that Geneseo should win this game and maybe they will score a double digit victory. The Knights haven't been too impressive in the scoring department in their last 2 games, unable to get out of the 50's. Geneseo wins this one though, 76-68. 


Brockport State  at  Medaille                 2:00 PM

Brockport will face a scrappy Medaille team that has already played and beaten the team that handed the Golden Eagles their season opening loss...Morrisville State. Medaille also hung with perennial NCAA participant Wooster losing 110 to 100, stayed with Buffalo State most of the game, only down by 3 points with 3:27 left in the game and Nov. 15th. And then beat Moville 79-77 the next day on Nov. 16th. They pounded Wells College, 99-63 a few days ago. The Mavericks will be a handful and the Golden Eagles better come to play. Medaille has met Brockport 4 times in the past 10 years and their only win came in 2011 in the ECAC tournament at years' end.

The point spread favors the Golden Eagles by a 5 point margin and I think this should be a close game throughout.  I wonder if Brockport's Coach Dunne thought about calling up Plattsburgh State's Coach Blaine now that they are coaches in the same conference. It was Coach Blaine who either brought in or coached all of the current Medaille players as he was the coach there for the last five years. Would have been a good way to break the ice with the new coach.

I'm taking Brockport to win this one by an 82-78 final score.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 01:49:54 PM
New Paltz losing to Maritime by a 43-41 score at the half.

Jake Passaretti and  Tristan Wissemann both have 9 points to lead the Hawks. Wissemann also has a team high 4 boards.

Maritime has 10 points from Brendan McGovern.     Brennan Whelen and Alec Downes both have 6 points.
Whelen was the starting guard that had been missing so they are at full strngth.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 02:46:30 PM
Final Score   New Paltz 80 SUNY-Maritime 94 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 02:54:48 PM
Geneseo all over Houghton by a 48-19 score at the break.

Michael Gannon leads the Knights with 11 points.   Alex Merhige has 9 points and 4 rebounds.

Billy McCrae leads Houghton with 5 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 03:00:34 PM
Brockport State with some good news on the football front as the Golden Eagles come back from a 14-6 deficit to defeat Western new England by a 33-28 final score and advance to the next round of the NCAA football playofffs.

Union College the Liberty League representative also came from behind to defeat Case Western Reserve 24-21.

Nice to have two New York DIII schools still alive in the round of 16.

Back to hoops.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 03:08:55 PM
Brockport State 43  Medaille 33 at the half.

The lead was only 35-31 with 3:35 to go but the Golden Eagles outscored the Mavericks 8-2 to end the period and stretch the margin to double figures for the first time in the game.

Justin Summers with 14 points and 3 rebounds to power the Golden Eagles.  Davonte Jones with 6 points. Jahidi Wallace with 5 points and 4 rebounds. Tyler Collins with 5 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists.


Kirk Hawkins with 10 points for the Mavericks and Kendall McGill with 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 03:50:50 PM
Geneseo defeats Houghton 86-64.

Easy win for the Knights as they jumped out to a 15-2 lead and kept their foot down all game long. The lead reached 22 points at 39-17 with 3:47 to play and they were up 29 points at the break. Not a very competitive contest.

The Knights had 5 players in double figures led by Michael Gannon with 19 points and 4 rebounds.  Alex Merhige has 15 points and 4 rebounds.  Elijah Wingfield, Terrance Nichols and Sean Crowley all scored 10 points.

Geneseo improves to 2-3 and will be off until December 2nd when they host SUNY-Canton at 7:30 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 23, 2019, 05:23:22 PM
Brockport State 96      Medaille 84  Final score

Brockport maintained a comfortable lead throughout most of the second half after closing the first half with a 10 point margin. On several occasions the Mavericks cut the lead to 5 points in the early stages of the 2nd half but Port quickly went back up by double figures. The lead reached 14 points at 83-69 with 3:41 left to play. Medaille got as close as 7 points at 88-81  with 1:17 left but time was runnng out. They had to foul and Port went 7 of 10 from the line to shut the door.

Brockport
Justin Summers captured both scoring honors with 26 points and rebounding honors with 9 boards.
Jahidi Wallace had 15 points and 6 rebounds.
Tyree Grimsley had 13 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals and 2 assists.
Malick Sylla had 11 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists.

Medaille
Kirk Hawkins led the Mavericks with 20 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.
Rodney Graves had 16 points and a team high 6rebounds.
Jonathan Smith had 11 points and 5 rebounds.
Brandon Roach had 10 points and 3 rebounds.

Brockport improves to 2-1 and will be off until December 1st when they host Salisbury University at 1:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2019, 08:01:49 AM
Nov. 25                                      Just a single game today on the schedule.    

Plattsburgh State    at    Skidmore        7:00 PM

These two teams will meet for the 6th time in the last 6 years, with 4 of those games taking place on the Thoroughbreds home court. Plattsburgh owns a 3-2 record against Skidmore winning twice in Plattsburgh and in the initial game in Saratoga back in 2014. Skidmore's two wins were both on their home court. One thing that's different from the past, in today's game ....the Thoroughbreds have never been winless when taking the floor against Plattsburgh. Usually it's the other way around and Skidmore enters the game on a roll or undefeated but they are 0-3 this season and still looking for that elusive first win. Graduation hit both teams quite heavy with Plattsburgh losing even more than the Ponies lost. One player that's not at Skidmore this season, who they didn't lose to graduation, is Junior guard Noah Meren. The leading scorer on last year's team (21.4 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3 assists per game), has taken his talents to Division I Brown University and his loss will have a huge effect on the fortunes of the Thoroughbreds. Meren will sit out this year at Brown and have 2 years of eligibility remaining. Skidmore returns 2 starters and 4 members of their rotation from last year.

Without Meren, I don't think Skidmore will win the Liberty League championship like they did last season, but they will be in the mix for a playoff berth.  I see them finishing somewhere from 3rd to 5th place. The 3 losses they have this year, all came against decent teams. They opened the season with a 66-56 loss to Hartwick (5-1), who beat SUNYAC contender Oneonta last week. They dropped their 2nd game to Stevens Tech, 67-55, who is 4-0 with a win over New Jersey City, a team getting support in the Top 25 poll. On Saturday Skidmore hosted #13 Middlebury (5-0) (who will probably move into the Top 10 when the next Top 25 poll comes out). The Panthers beat the Ponies 73-56, as Middlebury broke open a close game midway through the first half to lead by a dozen points at the break. Skidmore played them on fairly even terms in the 2nd period, losing that half by only 5 points. Middlebury is loaded and will challenge for the NESCAC title this year.

Some of you who read this board on a regular basis may remember a player from 2016-17 and 2017-18 who played for Geneseo by the name of Tommy Eastman. He was an all conference performer his sophomore season and did quite well as a freshman also. He did not return to Geneseo last season and took the year off but has now returned to college and is at Middlebury. He is currently coming off the bench and is the 5th leading scorer on their team. He started for Geneseo, averaging 14 ppg and 10 rpg. He should be starting for Middlebury and may end up as one but they are so loaded with returning players, that he may not see a start until next seaon. Plattsburgh has to play Middlebury on January 2nd over there, where I'm sure we'll see more of Mr. Eastman and will find a tough game waiting for us.

The Cardinals will have their hands full today with Skidmore. We have struggled down there in our last two trips losing by double figures both times. If we play like we did against SUNY-Poly we'll get blown out again. We need to work on our shot selection and find the open man. We have some good shooters but need them taking shots without a guy in their face. The point spread favors Skidmore by just a single point. I don't believe that's enough. The Throughbreds have played tougher competition than the Cardinals have faced and they have more experience. I think that will provide them with an edge that we will struggle to overcome. I can't remember when the last time occured, that I didn't pick my Cardinals to win, but I think we're going to come out on the short end of this one. I sure hope I'm wrong but I can see Skidmore winning this one by a 68-63 final score.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 25, 2019, 08:45:33 AM
Good Morning D3 Hoops board--The Scooterman is alive and well down here in Tampa, Florida and ready for a great season of basketball from my SUNYAC teams. I have been on hiatus from the board but have been paying attention to the SUNYAC's. I see my buddy, Tom Curle, has left P-State for a new position.(Congrats to him) I have watched the first three B-port games and see they will be very competitive again this season. I will be attending their Mauro Panaggio Invitational games in Daytona Beach in a few weeks and looking forward to seeing Coach Dunne, Coach Clarke and Coach Johnston. It is great to be back!!!! Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2019, 09:34:16 AM
Quote from: scooterman on November 25, 2019, 08:45:33 AM
Good Morning D3 Hoops board--The Scooterman is alive and well down here in Tampa, Florida and ready for a great season of basketball from my SUNYAC teams. I have been on hiatus from the board but have been paying attention to the SUNYAC's. I see my buddy, Tom Curle, has left P-State for a new position.(Congrats to him) I have watched the first three B-port games and see they will be very competitive again this season. I will be attending their Mauro Panaggio Invitational games in Daytona Beach in a few weeks and looking forward to seeing Coach Dunne, Coach Clarke and Coach Johnston. It is great to be back!!!! Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Out of the clear blue of the southern sky comes..........Scooterman. I wouldn't say you were on hiatus from the boards, I would say you were lost and presumed missing since it's been approximately 4 years since you were last heard from.

Now if you could only locate your fellow Brockport poster pg-04 who has also been missing for a few years. I thought maybe you took another doo-wop cruise around the world and this time brought pg-04 with you.

Welcome Back Scooterman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 25, 2019, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 25, 2019, 09:34:16 AM
Quote from: scooterman on November 25, 2019, 08:45:33 AM
Good Morning D3 Hoops board--The Scooterman is alive and well down here in Tampa, Florida and ready for a great season of basketball from my SUNYAC teams. I have been on hiatus from the board but have been paying attention to the SUNYAC's. I see my buddy, Tom Curle, has left P-State for a new position.(Congrats to him) I have watched the first three B-port games and see they will be very competitive again this season. I will be attending their Mauro Panaggio Invitational games in Daytona Beach in a few weeks and looking forward to seeing Coach Dunne, Coach Clarke and Coach Johnston. It is great to be back!!!! Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Definitely a better board when folks from around the Yac stay engaged. 

Out of the clear blue of the southern sky comes..........Scooterman. I wouldn't say you were on hiatus from the boards, I would say you were lost and presumed missing since it's been approximately 4 years since you were last heard from.

Now if you could only locate your fellow Brockport poster pg-04 who has also been missing for a few years. I thought maybe you took another doo-wop cruise around the world and this time brought pg-04 with you.

Welcome Back Scooterman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on November 25, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
Does anyone think the Magicman is slowing down?

I think he's Better than Ever.   ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 25, 2019, 07:51:29 PM
Plattsburgh trails Skidmore 32-31 at the half.

Skidmore jumps out to an early 15-6 lead but Plattsburgh, behind Travis Cox and Nick DeAngelis, slowly chips away at the deficit and gets within a single possession at 21-19 with 8 minutes left in the period. The Cards finally get a lead at 29-28 on an Axel Rodriduez layup and the teams fight it out to the end of the period.

Plattsburgh's Travis Cox leads all scorers with 12 points. DeAngelis has 7.

Ryan Murunge leads Skidmore with 10 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 25, 2019, 08:41:24 PM
Magic, you are truly Magic, you called 68-63 and it wound up 64-60, not too shabby.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 07:32:05 AM
Plattsburgh 60  Skidmore 64

Sometimes I hate it when I'm right. Tonight was one of those nights. I didn't think my Cardinals would win this game but after watching them play Skidmore to a first half standstill the possibility of getting a W looked promising. The Cards hung in there when Skidmore threatened to put them away early on and then opened the 2nd half with an 8 to 2 burst that gave them a 5 point lead at 39-34. The Throroughbreds came back and tied the game at 41 with 12:28  left to play. Three lead changes and a tie over the next 6 minutes would lead to the turning point of the contest. Up 49-47, Skidmore got a pair of 3 pointers from Ty Lamport that sandwiched a layup and free throw by Plattsburgh's Travis Cox to give the Ponies a 5 point edge at 55-50. The Cardinals needed a score but came up empty on their end and Skidmore's latest Lithuanian import, 6'3" freshman guard Tautvydas Kupstas buried another threeball to boost the lead to 58-50 with under 5 minutes to play. The Cardinals called timeout but turned the ball over when play resumed. A Nick DeAngelis steal  resulted in another chance but again Plattsburgh misfired and Skidmore scored inside to make the deficit a 10 point margin with 3:34 to go. The Cardinals got back in it with a 7-1 spurt, to make it 61-57 with 52 seconds left. Not wanting to foul the Cardinals hoped for a stop and almost got it when Skidmore missed a layup but the Ponies got the offensive rebound and Plattsbirgh fouled sending Lamport to the line where he missed the front end of a 1&1 with 19 seconds left. Plattsburgh rebounded and went coast to coast but the layup wouldn't go down and the Cards fouled once again. Skidmore made them both to go up by 6 points and Plattsburgh got a 3 pointer from DeAngelis with 9 seconds left to make it 63-60. The Cardinals took a timeout and got a turnover on the inbounds pass by Skidmore but immediately lost it right back and had to foul with just 5 ticks left. Skidmore missed both free throws but a lane violation was called on the 2nd free throw resulting in another chance from the line and this time Skidmore made it to give them a 2 possession, 64-60 lead. Plattsburgh missed at the buzzer to bring down the curtain on this one.

My original prediction of a Skidmore 68-63 victory was pretty close to the final score but I'm never happy when I'm right and my team loses. Plattsburgh had their chances in this game but once again 3 point shooting determined the winner. We didn't  shoot well from long distance, only 3x14 (21.4%). The Thoroughbreds went 8x21 from long distance (38.1%). The other shooting stats were fairly even. Plattsburgh was 25x55 from the field (45.5%) and 7x11 from the line (63.6%). Skidmore was 23x53 (43.4%) from the field and 10x17 (58.8%) from the stripe.

Both teams had 33 rebounds but the Cardinals had more giveaways than Skidmore 17 to 12. The Cardinals had 10 assisted baskets while Skidmore had 14.

Plattsburgh
Travis Cox led all scorers with 28 points on 12x19 shooting from the field. He added 6 rebounds, 5 steals and 2 assists. The 28 points represented a new career high for Travis as he continues to be an offensive force for the Cardinals. He is averaging 19.6 ppg and is shooting over 50% from the field and 79% from th line.

Nick DeAngelis had 14 points, 4 rebounds, 3 steals, a block and 1 assist. He, like Cox, has scored in double figures in all 5 of the Cardinals' games and together they form a potent 1-2 punch. Nick's numbers will only get better as he missed the first month of practice and  is nearly at full strength.

Axel Rodriguez had 6 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 3 steals. 

Cameron Ness had 6 rebounds, 3 points, 2 assists and 2 blocks. The big guy didn't get a lot of touches tonight when the Cardinals were on the offensive end, as Skidmore's size came into play. (6'10' center and 6'8" forward.)

Skidmore
Ryan Murunge had a double-double of 14 points and 11 rebounds to capture honors off the glass. He added 4 blocks, 2 assists and a steal.

Ty Lamport also had 14 points and 3 steals.

Tautvydas Kupstas had 13 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds in 28 minutes off the bench.

Greg Skoric had 9 rebounds, 3 points, and 2 blocks.

Plattsburghs falls to 2-3 and will be off until the weekend of December 6th and 7th when they open conference play at Oneonta on Friday at 7:30 PM and New Paltz on Saturday at 4:00 PM.


     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 08:50:23 AM
The D3hoops Top 25 poll Week #1 has been released and the only teams from the East Region with any votes are Oswego State, the     
University of Rochester and St. John Fisher.  Here's the link:  https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2019-20/week1

Oswego State is 3-0 and is currently getting 60 points in the Others Receiving Votes category. They are in 28th place and despite going undefeated in their first 3 games they slipped from #26 in the preseason poll to #28 and lost 23 points. Two teams now ranked ahead of the Lakers at #26 and #27 are Elmhurst and Carthage. Both those teams are in the strong CCIW conference and are also undefeated. Both teams also defeated preseason #2 and last year's NCAA Champion, UW-Oshkosh, in the past week to give them a signature win. If Oswego keeps winning though, I think they will crack the Top 25 in a few weeks. Nazareth, who has already defeated 2 YAC teams, will try to take down the visiting Lakers tonight and spoil their Top 25 hopes.   

Rochester is 5-0 and is in the 32nd spot with a total of 33 points. Rochester was only getting 5 points in the 41st spot in the previous poll. Rochester has an interesting game tonight against Hobart but seeing that it's in Rochester I expect them to win that game. Hard to get a W when you visit the Palestra.

St. John Fisher was ranked in the preseason poll grabbing the #25 spot with 93 points and ranked ahead of Oswego. They opened up with a loss to Union and got nipped last week by Rochester to fall way down in the Others Receiving Votes category with 7 points. These Cardinals wiil play Buffalo State later today, in the Queen City, The Bengals upset the favored Cardinals last year in Pittsford. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 02:27:34 PM
Nov. 26    Four Teams in action today in non-conference matchups. The Oneonta game against Binghamton is an exhibition game




St. John Fisher  at  Buffalo State        6:00 PM

The Cardinals weren't expecting to be 3-2 after their first 5 games and their ranking in the D3hoops Top 25 preseason poll is now a memory. They also want a little payback for last year's home loss to the Bengals. They returned quite a bit from last years rotation with 4 starters back and 7 of their top 10. Buffalo State has significant losses from the team that upset Fisher last season. The question is do they have enough firepower to pull off another upset? The reason I say upset is because the oddsmakers have made Fisher a 6 point favorite in this one. The Bengals haven't played in 10 days while Fisher is coming off a win over RIT 3 days ago. I think the Bengals can win this game yet I hesitate to pick them. The Cardinals could have beaten Rochester last week as that game went down to the wire. Fisher actually had a 6 point lead at 73-67 with 5 minutes to go but then missed 6 shots in a row and had three turnovers in that stretch. It turned the game around and allowed Rochester to go on a 11-2 run and win 78-75. I think the Cardinals will play better today.

I hope I'm wrong on this one but see the Bengals dropping a close 78-74 decision to the Cardinals.   Go Bengals!       


Potsdam State   at     Clarkson                6:00 PM

The Bears have already knocked off Canton and St. Lawrence. Now they will try to take down their crosstown rival, Clarkson College, to complete their 2nd straight year of sweeping their local rivals. After suffering for a number of years, Potsdam State, under 4th year head coach, Jim Bechtel, has managed to put the Bears in the driver's seat when it comes to local bragging rights. Potsdam, in the 7 years before Coach Bechtel arrived at Potsdam, was 4-15 overall, against Clarkson, Canton and SLU. His first two years the Bears were rebuilding and were only 1-5 against those schools. Now they have won 5 straight and a win tonight would give them the 2 year sweep.

The Bears are undefeated in this young season but their strength of schedule isn't the best. Clarkson is 2-2 with a pair of 8 point losses. One of those losses is to Oswego, in a game that found the Golden Knights ahead at the half. Clarkson hung with the Lakers for the entire game and actually had the lead at 64-62 with 5 minutes to play. Still tied at 69 with 3:34 to go the Lakers finally got some separation and pulled away in the final few minutes. So the Knights won't be going, quietly into the night and the Bears better go into Alumni Gym with their "A" game. The teams do have a common opponent in SUNY-Canton. The Bears won a close battle against the Kangaroos while Clarkson dropped a close game to them. When it comes to this rivalry though, anything can happen.

The point spread favors the Bears by a slim 3 point margin. I don't think the game will be decided by much either. I'm taking my Bears to win but won't be surprised if they lose. Potsdam wins 74-69.     


Oneonta State   at  Binghamton  (Exhibition)           7:00 PM

The Red Dragons get to play a Division I school again in an exhibition game. Always fun to get the opportunity. I hope the guys can put up a respectable showing. They have nothing to lose so go out and play like that! As always if we score 50 and keep them under a 100 I consider that a win. I think we can do that tonight.

The Bearcats have some pretty tall fellows but I think their starting lineup will be a pair of 6'3" guards. A 6 foot guard, a 6'8" forward and a 6'6" forward. They'll bring in a 7 footer to play center off the bench and a pair of 6'4" guards to back up the starters. The rest of their players haven't seen much floor time but may get in if the game gets out of hand. I'm thinking Oneonta can play with this team for a while and if they can hit their threes will keep it respectable. The Red Dragons are due to break out of this slump they've started out the season with. So play loose and do just that..... Oneonta won't win but they only lose to the Bearcats by a 91-63 final score.   


Oswego State  at  Nazareth                        7:30 PM

This will be the 4th time Oswego's Coach Leone has squared off with Nazareth in his tenure as the Lakers head coach and he's looking to even his record against the Golden Flyers to 2-2. The Lakers won last year's battle 70-55 marking Coach Leone's first win after 2 straight losses. Now he'd like to start a streak. Plus ancient history shows that Nazareth has a pretty good lead in this series by a 22-9 margin. The Lakers can finally get their win total to double figures in this series but will have to do it on the Golden Flyers home court.

Nazareth has already won 2 games over SUNYAC opponents, Buffalo State and Fredonia. A win tonight would put them in first place in our conference with a 3-0 record. Nazareth is 4-1 with their only loss coming against Rochester by a 77-56 final score that isn't indicative of how close the game really was. Naz was within 4 points of Rochester with under 6 minutes remaining before the Yellowjackets put the game away.

The Lakers need to play better than they did against Clarkson. They allowed that team to hang around far too long and it could have cost them. Tonight they have the same situation as they travel to another team's house. Nazareth lost a lot from last years' team. Their entire starting lineup is different but all of them are returning rotation players from a year ago, waiting for their turn to shine. They all saw action against Oswego and scored a total of 10 points in that game. They'll score quite a bit more this time around.

The oddsmakers think that Nazareth is still a solid team despite all their losses to graduation and have only made the Lakers the favorite by a single point. So the game is essentially a tossup. I think the game will be close as well but I see the Lakers winning by a handful. Oswego wins this one 77-72.


Update on the SUNYAC's non-conference won-lost record.

The SUNYAC has went 21-16 heading into today's 3 non-conference games. (Remember Oneonta's game doesn't count) That will leave us with 27 more non-conference games after today making a total of 67. We are 3 games short of the 70 games we could have because Potsdam only has a 24 game schedule and Buffalo State is only showing 23 games. Our record is not nearly as good as I hoped it would be. There is still time to make improvements on the record but we will need a run of good luck to do so. I'm hopeful with the games tonight and the other 27 that are left, that we can go 20-10. That would give us a final record of 41-26 or something close to that. It's hard to project when there are a number of holiday tournaments coming up and I have no idea who we will be playing in the 2nd game of those tournaments. The final non-conference game of the season will take place when Plattsburgh State travels over to Middlebury College to face the Panthers. I'm guessing they will still be ranked highly in the Top 25. I mentioned in my Skidmore-Plattsburgh pregame comments that #13 Middlebury would likely move into the Top 10 in the new D3hoops poll due to come out. It was released on Monday night and the Panthers jumped from #13 to #5. I consider that game one of our losses. We need to do well in those holiday tournaments, especially Brockport, Cortland, Oneonta and Oswego, in that early January tournament.           

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 07:46:08 PM
Potsdam State defeats Clarkson 90-75.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 07:47:22 PM
St. John Fisher 89  Buffalo State 83  Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 07:52:24 PM
Oneonta trails Binghamton 53-29 at the half.

Andres Rivera leads the Red Dragons with 13 points.  Kameron Hickey and  Ian Schultz both have 7 points. No Joseph Bull for Oneonta tonight.

Binghamton has balanced scoring as 9 players break into the scoring column.  Sam Sessoms is the leading scorer with 12 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 08:24:38 PM
Oswego 32 Nazareth 34

The Lakers Joe Sullivan grabs an offensive rebound and scores at the buzzer to cut the Nazareth lead to just 2 points as the half ends.
Both teams playing solid defense and the refs are letting them play. Only 4 fouls called on the Lakers in the half but the bad news is 3 of them are on their point guard Liam Sanborn. Lakers trailed for most of the half by as many as 8 points on 2 separate occasions. The Lakers with 9 first half turnovers to only 4 by Nazareth

Brandon Gartland leads Oswego with 11 points. Sullivan has 5 points and 6 rebounds. Julien Crittendon has 6 points. .

Nazareth gets 8 points from Zach Stenglein, 7 points from Isaac Nelson and 6 points from Stephen Gabel.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 08:34:00 PM
Oneonta down by 27 points at one point has come back with a nice run to close the gap to 12 points at 71-59. The Red Dragons getting a big effort from Andres Rivera who now has 22 points. 6-0 run forces the big bad Bearcats to call a timeout.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 26, 2019, 09:47:37 PM
Oneonta 69 Binghamton 90 final score.

The Red Dragons got as close as 10 points, late in the game at 71-61, but Binghamton had a 19-8 run in the final 4 minutes to put this one away. I had Oneonta losing by a 91-63 final score so I wasn't too far off with my prediction. I was real close with the Bearcats' score just didn't figure Andres Rivera was going to go off for 27 points to lead Oneonta. I figured he'd only put about 20 on the board.

I wonder how Oneonta might have done if their other big man, Joe Bull, had been playing. Hope he doesn't miss much time. Nice to see the Red Dragons play a very competitive game against the DI Bearcats and good for the fans as well.

Andres Rivera did have a big night as he led all scorers with 27 points. He added 6 rebounds, 3 steals, 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Kameron Hickey and Ian Schultz both scored 10 points with Schultz grabbing 5 rebounds.

Sean Nolan had 6 points, 5 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 assists.

The Red Dragons got beat off the boards 41-33 but only had 9 turnovers to 13 for the Bearcats.

Oneonta will return to action on December 6th when they begin conference play by hosting the Plattsburgh State Cardinals at 7:30 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 26, 2019, 10:03:03 PM
Potsdam defeats Clarkson at Clarkson tonight by the score of 90-75. 
Potsdam was led by Senior Jaquan Thomas who had 26 points in 25 minutes on 10x14 FG, 1x1 3FG, 5x7 FT. 
Freshman Tyrese Baptiste posted yet another Double Double with 14 points and 16 rebounds.
Senior Danny DelSol-Lowry added 16 for the Bears who go to 4-1. 
Bears went Up-tempo in the first half and led at the Break 55-39. 
Clarkson came back to close within 11 in the second half before Bears pulled away to lead 90-70 with 1:48 left before Clarkson scored the last 5 points.

Chris Hulbert led Clarkson with 22 on 5x7 from the arc and 7x11 from the stripe.
Reese Swedberg had 15 pts 8 rebs for the Knights.

Potsdam now 4-1 [loss to D-I Albany]
Golden Knights now 2-3.


Second year in a row that Bears have wins over all 3 St. Lawrence County teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2019, 03:42:06 AM
Oswego State 77 Nazareth 73

This final score may be as close as I come all year long. My crystal ball had Oswego winning 77-72. That last point scored by Nazareth was a free throw that bounced several times before falling through. It could just as easily bounced out.

This was another good game as neither team could open up a big lead and keep it. The Lakers trailed for much of the first half by as many as 8 points and came back both times to get within a single possession. Down 34-26 with under 3 minutes left in the period, Oswego held the Golden Flyers scoreless and managed 6 points to close within 2 at 34-32.

Nazareth scored first to extend the halftime lead to 4 and after an Oswego miss scored again to go back up by 6 points at 38-32. The Lakers outscored Naz 9-2 over the next 3 minutes of play to grab their first lead since the early stages of the game when they had a 9-7 edge. Naz scored on their next possession to go back in front but that was the last time they had the lead. Oswego scored 7 unanswered points to jump ahead 48-42 and again the Golden Flyers responded to tie the game at 50-50. The teams would trade 3 pointers to tie it up again at 53, but Oswego used an 8-0 run to create some separation from the Flyers and that proved to be the turning point of the game. All 8 points in that run were scored by Freshman guard Jeremiah Sparks. Now up 61-53 with 6 minutes to go, Oswego countered each move that Nazareth made, as the lead hovered between 5 and 9 points. Naz hit a three and got back within a single possession with 17 seconds to go but had to foul and Liam Sanborn made both free throws to build the lead back to 5 points. Once more Nazareth buried a 3 pointer and fouled with 7 seconds to go. Again, Sanborn made both shots to make it 76-72 and Naz got fouled with 2 ticks left. Down by 4 points, Naz made the first and deliberately missed the 2nd hoping for the rebound and a three pointer. Oswego corralled the ball and was fouled a final time to send Julien Crittendon  to the line. He made 1 of 2 and gave me a perfect Oswego score to match my prediction.

Oswego
The Lakers Freshman guard Jeremiah Sparks had a career high 25 points to lead all scorers. He double-doubled his pleasure with a career high 11 rebounds. The 8-0 run that gave the Lakers the lead for good all came from Sparks and were part of 12 straight points he scored in a 3 minute span. He took the Lakers from a 53-53 tie to a 65-56 advantage. From the looks of things I don't think those stats will be his career highs for long.

Liam Sanborn had 18 points along with 5 assists and 2 rebounds. He picked up his 3rd foul in the first half but never got called for another one while playing the entire 2nd half.

Brandan Gartland had 14 points and 6 rebounds.

Julien Crittendon had 9 points, 8 rebounds and 2 assists in 35 minutes off the bench.

Joe Sullivan had a game high 12 rebounds and 7 points.


Nazareth
Sophomore Zach Stenglein led Nazareth with 17 points, 6 assists and 3 rebounds. He is the 2nd of 3 Stenglein brothers to suit up for the Golden Flyers. His older brother Tyler wound up his career last season as one of the top scorers in Nazareth history. His younger brother Zach joined the team this year as a Freshman.

Stephen Gabel had 15 points and 7 rebounds.

Isaac Nelson had 14 points. 3 rebounds and 3 steals.

Cody Green added 13 points and 3 rebounds.


Oswego was 22x50 from the field (44%) and 4x12 from long distance. Nazareth shot 30x71 from the field (42.3%) and 8x27 from behind the arc (29.6%). The Lakers enjoyed a huge edge at the foul line as they were 29x43 (67.4%). Nazareth was just 5x9 from the stripe (55.6%). Oswego led in rebounds 43 to 34 but had 15 turnovers to just 7 for the Flyers.

Oswego improves to 4-0 and will return to action on December 2nd when they travel north to take on St. Lawrence in Canton NY at 7:30 PM.

Nazareth falls to 4-2 and will not be in first place in our conference thanks to the Laker win. :D However they will be in contention in the Empire 8 conference this season despite losing all 5 starters from last year's team. They return to action on December 3rd at 7:00 PM against SUNY-Poly.


       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2019, 03:51:59 AM
Quote from: thebear on November 26, 2019, 10:03:03 PM
Potsdam now 4-1 [loss to D-I Albany]

bear,
That Albany game wasn't an exhibition game? D3hoops not showing it on their team page for the Bears. I guess that's why I could only count 24 games for the Bears. Albany makes 25.

Bears still undefeated according to D3hoops:  https://www.d3hoops.com/teams/SUNY_Potsdam/Men/2019-20/index
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2019, 05:26:38 AM
bear,   please note:

"Bears handle Clarkson 90-75 to complete North Country sweep"
"The victory gives the Bears a sweep of all three North Country rivals for the second year in a row."

This headline and story line from the Potsdam State website is incorrect at the present time. Now maybe someone there has a crystal ball, that is better than mine, and they can foresee 2 wins over my Cardinals (which is entirely possible this year) but the last I knew, Plattsburgh was considered part of the North Country and the Bears have yet to defeat us. In fact, since we are more Northerly than Potsdam and are only 15 miles from our Northern border with Canada, I think we can claim the distinction of being more "North Country" than Potsdam, but I won't quibble over that point.

I think someone in the sports information department at Potsdam needs a quick lesson from an old SID about what constitutes the North Country. I know, that you know, just the person to do that!  ;D  It sounds like...."a sweep of all three North Country rivals" is perhaps a bad case of adding and subtracting. In which case, subtracting Plattsburgh State, the largest of the 5 colleges in the North Country, from the North Country, is a bit of tricky math or perhaps sheer magic.....And I know all about magic!! So please straighten the Bears' SID out and who knows he may be able to use that headline sometime around February 4th at 9:30 PM, but I certainly hope he can't. ;)

So, until Potsdam plays and defeats Plattsburgh twice this season I don't think the phrase "North Country Sweep" is allowed to come into play. As mentioned above, that may happen but until, and if it happens, I think all mention of that phrase should definitely be placed on hold.

As I stated in my pregame prognostication of the Potsdam-Clarkson game...a win over the Golden Knights would give the Bears a 2nd straight year of sweeping their LOCAL RIVALS. That they would gain LOCAL braggin rights. Nowhere was it stated they would gain a "North Country Sweep". I notice that even you, in your wisdom, made this statement in your posted summary of Potsdam's win over the Knights:

Quote from: thebear on November 26, 2019, 10:03:03 PM
Potsdam defeats Clarkson at Clarkson tonight by the score of 90-75. 
Second year in a row that Bears have wins over all 3 St. Lawrence County teams.

Here, you have wisely used the phrase... St. Lawrence County teams, because you know from past experience that to claim a North Country sweep one has to consider the outcome of the Plattsburgh-Potsdam games. 8-) Both the Bears and the Cardinals have laid claim to North Country sweeps on numerous occasions although Potsdam's last one was quite a while ago. Canton wasn't always a participant since they were just a 2 year school until recently and even now aren't always on Plattsburgh State's schedule. In fact this year we don't play them. 

I am aware of your connections to Potsdam over the last 50 plus years and I'm sure you can arrange to have that misnomer of a headline removed from the Bears write-up and replaced with one that isn't "fake news". ;D

After all the last time that a sweep of the North Country teams took place was just last season when Plattsburgh defeated Clarkson, Canton, and St. Lawrence in November ( all three wins in their barns I might add)  then won the home and home series with the Bears to truly SWEEP the NORTH COUNTRY. We also did it in 2017-18 so last season was just a repeat. Now we're trying for a threepeat.



                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2019, 08:42:21 AM
Buffalo State 83 St John Fisher 89.

Close game in the Queen City between these 2 teams that had 8 ties and 14 lead changes. The Bengals trailed early on, caught up after 5 minutes of play and went in front by as many as 9 points over the next 13 minutes. Down 19-18, a 9-1 run gave the Bengals a 28-20 lead with 7:34 left in the half. They lengthened that advantage to a 9 point margin at 34-25 with 5 minutes to go but 3 turnovers and 4 misses  in their next 7 trips down the floor allowed the Cardinals to rip off a 10-0 run and grab the lead at 35-34 with 1:37 remaining. Both teams hit some free throws to end the half with the Bengals trailing by a 38-36 score.

The teams spent the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half trading baskets and leads with no more than a single possession separating them. It was the Cardinals that finally made the penultimate move that put them in the driver's seat. Trailing by a point at 52-51 with 12 minutes to play, Fisher went on a 12-2 run fueled by 7 points from  Brendan Trapper to go in front 63-54 over the next 2 minutes of action. The Bengals were now playing catch up and they never quite could. They came close several times at 67-65, went down by 6  and  drew even closer once again at 74-73 with 4:35 to play. Still ahead by a single point at 78-77 with under 3 minutes to go the Cardinals went to the line and hit a pair to up the lead to 3 points. Needing to stay with Fisher, the Bengals instead committed turnovers on back to back trips down the court and the Cardinals made them pay. A steal and a dunk by Fisher's James Leone was followed by a 2nd steal by Leone resulting in another layup by him. Fisher called a timeout and when play resumed an offensive foul on the Bengals gave the Cardinals another chance to pad the lead and pad it they did. A one point lead was now a nine point lead in the space of 77 seconds and that was the ballgame. With time running out the Bengals threw up some long range shots but couldn't connect and the Cardinals went to the line and made 3 of 4 while Buff Sate got 2 quick layups in the final 30 seconds. The Bengals fought hard but they couldn't get over the hump once they fell behind by 9 points at 63-54. 

Points off turnovers was huge in this game as Fisher scored 22 points off 17 Bengal giveaways. The Cardinals had 10 turnovers that only resulted in 2 points for Buff State. BUffalo State had 46 rebounds to 40 for the Cardinals. Shooting percentages were fairly even as Fisher went 31x66 (47.0) from the field to 31x70 (44..3%) for the Bengals. Fisher was 4x17 from distance and the Bengals were 6x16
Fisher went to the line and hit 23 of 34 attempts (67.6%)  BUffalo State was 15x23 (65.2%).

Bengals
Kay Grant had a big night for Buffalo State as he captured both scoring and rebounding honors for the game with a double-double of 23 points and 14 rebounds.

Sheldon Adams had 20 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.

Zion Guzman-Milton  also had a double-double of 13 points, 10 boards, 2 blocks, a steal and 1 assist.

Aaron Davis had 12 points, 9 assists and 3 rebounds.

Jordan Christopher had 11 points, 5 rebounds an assist and a steal.

St. John Fisher
Brendan Trapper was the high man for the Cardinals with 21 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Dennis Hare had 19 points, 7 rebounds amd 2 assists.

Matt Asenjo had 18 points, 4 assists and 4 steals.

James Leone filled the stat sheet with 14 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 blocks and 2 huge steals in crunch time.

Sammy Robinson had 7 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.

Sean Williams had 7 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists and 1 steal.


Buffalo State falls to 2-2 and  will be off until December 7th when they host Fredonia for a 4:00 PM start.


St. John Fisher improves to 4-2 and will travel to Hobart for a game on December 3rd at 7:00 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on November 27, 2019, 09:31:15 AM
Just wanted to catch up on the SUNYAC Player of the Week awards.

Write-ups are from the SUNYAC web site.

Week #1          Week ending 11-9

Jake Passaretti      New Paltz State Junior Guard

Passaretti put up a game-high 22 points in the Hawks' 90-79 win over Baruch Saturday. He was active defensively as well, recording a game-high seven steals, which ranked second-most ever in a single game in program history. Additionally Passaretti totaled a team-high five assists, adding five rebounds, while shooting an efficient 5-for-14 from the field and 4-for-6 from 3-point range in just 28 minutes of action.



Week #2             Week ending 11-16

Brandon Segar Jr.     Potsdam State Junior Forward

Brandon Segar Jr. helped the Bears to a 2-0 week averaging 20.5 points-per-game and 12.0 rebounds-per-game. In an 84-74 win at St. Lawrence on Tuesday, he recorded his first double-double as a Bear with 17 points and 10 boards. On Sunday in a 96-79 win at NVU-Lyndon, he added another double-double with Potsdam career-highs in points (24) and rebounds (14). He also blocked three shots and totaled five assists.


Week #3               Week ending 11-23

Justin Summers          Brockport State Senior Forward

Justin Summers led Brockport to back-to-back wins last week, averaging 24.5 points and 9.5 rebounds per game while shooting over 50% from the floor. He also did his job on defense with two steals and three blocks during the week. The team picked up its first win of the year, 75-74, against Hobart with Summers posting a 23 and 10 double-double. In the weekend victory against Medaille he finished with 26 points and nine boards, as the Golden Eagles won 96-84. He is currently third in the conference this season, averaging 20.3 points per game with Brockport holding a 2-1 record.     


Congratulations to these 3 young men on their excellent play over the last 3weeks.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 27, 2019, 12:54:12 PM
Tough loss but encouraged. 5 players in double figures ( all starters) and both bigs get a double double.  I would summarize the game but Magicman has already done that.

Now is YAC time with fredonia coming to town Dec 7

Go BENGALS!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2019, 05:05:44 AM
Dec 1        Just a 1 game on the slate today and 2 scheduled for tomorrow as the SUNYAC gears up for Conference play on Friday   

Salisbury    vs    Brockport        1:00 PM   V LS    Carnegie Mellon DoubleTree Green Tree Invitational @ Pittsburgh, Pa.

The Salisbury Seagulls played a game in this tournament on Saturday and lost a close 71-70 decision to the host team CMU. Brockport did not play a Saturday game as this is the only game they will play in this tournament. In fact the Carnegie Mellon team, is only playing that one game in their own tournament, yet the visiting Seagulls play 2 games. Not sure if I've ever seen that before. Maybe someone cancelled out at the last moment.

The Seagulls come into the game with a 3-5 record but they have been in nearly all of their games as 4 losses were between 1 and 8 points. Their most notable win was against Stockton by a 74-62 score. Salisbury lost 4 starters from last year's team but still returned 3 of their top 5 scorers and added newcomer, junior forward Devin Garrett, who is averaging 10 ppg and 6 rpg as a starter.

Brockport  comes into this contest with only 3 games so far this season and sporting a 2-1 record. The Golden Eagles have won 2 in a row after an opening season setback to Morrisville in a game that went down to the wire. Today Port will need to play like they did against Hobart and Medaille if they want to exit Pittsburgh with a W. Once again they will be at a height disadvantage against the taller Seagulls and will need to rely on their speed and points off turnovers to be a difference maker.

The oddsmakers think that Salisbury will win this one but have only made them a 2 point favorite. I see this as a close game also but I'm taking Brockport to be on the right end of a 75-72 final score.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2019, 01:49:48 PM
Brockport 35 Salisbury 29 at the half.


The Golden Eagles are creating a lot of turnovers but also making too many unforced errors of their own. Some lazy passes, dribles off the foot stepping on the end line, that sort of thing. They should be up by a dozen points instead of 6. Their pressure defense has created 16 1st half turnovers but Port is guilty of 13 TO's.

Justin Summers leads the way for Brockport with 8 points. Livestats show him with only 2 rebounds...I thought he had more than that.
Malick Sylla with 7 points and 3 boards. Jahidi Wallace with 6 points and Tyler Collins with 5.

Mike Ward has 5 points to lead the Seagulls. Five other players with 4 each.

Port hanging in there. with 20 rebounds to 22 for Salisbury.

Summers with 2 fouls for Brockport.

Gary Briddell, leading scorer for Salisbury on the season has 2 fouls for them.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 01, 2019, 02:44:49 PM
Brockport defeats Salisbury 75-69.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2019, 04:38:13 AM
Dec. 2                 Just 1 game scheduled for today    

Oswego State  at  St. Lawrence        7:30 PM

The Lakers travel to St. Lawrence to take on the winless but dangerous Saints. Oswego has been an upset victim before against this team, so they need to keep their minds on matters at hand and not be thinking about the upcoming big game against conference rival Brockport State on Friday. Still undefeated at 4-0, Oswego will face a young SLU team that is 0-3 but was in every one of those games. The Saints had 5 players in double figures when I saw them play at Plattsburgh State, so they have numerous people who can score. They can put points on the board in the paint as well as from behind the arc. Against Plattsburgh they scored 50 points in the paint and also made 9 three pointers in 20 attempts. Their 8 man rotation is 3 Freshman, 3 Sophomores and 2 Juniors. They would love nothing better than to get their first win at Oswego's expense.

Oswego holds a 7-3 edge in games played over the last 10 years and has won the last 2 meetings by double figures. Previous to that the other 8 games were decided by margins between 1 and 6 points. The 2 best seasons the Lakers had in 2010-11 (24-5) and 2011-12 (26-4) were  years that St. Lawrence went 11-13 and 14-11. Yet the Saints defeated the Lakers 58-57 and 66-62 in those two seasons proving that records mean nothing when these two teams tangle. Oswego has held the upper hand in recent years winning 6 of the last 7 games which should make the Larries hungrier than ever to get a W.

The experts have made Oswego a 7 point favorite in this game. I think they win by a few more than that. I'll take Oswego to come away with a 90-78 victory.          
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2019, 11:15:38 AM
Brockport 75   Salisbury 69


I had the the Golden Eagles winning by a 75-72 final score and they didn't disappoint me when they came through on their end with 75 points. My thanks go out to Tyler Sullivan and Tyree Grimsly for their cooperation near the end of the game in making that Brockport score happen, especially Tyree. I just needed one of those missed 3 pointers by Salibury, in the last few seconds, to go down and I would have had a perfect prediction.

This was one sloppy game from start to finish. You know when you take the floor against Brockport that the turnover factor is going to come into play. They come at you from start to finish and they will create turnovers, that, more often than not, result in a win. However I haven't seen more turnovers in a game this year and both teams were guilty of the giveaways. And for many of the turnovers that's just what they were....giveaways...early Christmas presents maybe. Far too many were the result of poor decisions and not defensive pressure, as I mentioned in my halftime update. Don't get me wrong there were a lot of nice steals (especially on the part of Brockport) but both teams made a lot of boneheaded mistakes that I'm sure both coaches will cringe at, all over again, when they watch the tape of this game. Salisbury had 29 turnovers and Brockport had 26. Both of those numbers were season highs for Brockport and for their opponents, so far this year. Fortunately the Golden Eagles came away with the win, but there were times in this game when I thought they weren't going to get that W.

An up and down first half found Brockport with an early 5 point lead after the first 8 minutes of play. They were still up 17-13 at the 10 minute mark, but 4 minutes later a 12-2 run put the Seagulls on top by 6 points, at 25-19, with 6 minutes left in the half. The Golden Eagles had probably their best stretch of play at that point, as they outscored Salisbury 16-4 for the remainder of the period to go back in front. They got 6 turnovers while shooting 6x10 from the field and 3x5 from the line. They led 35 to 29 at the half.

Brockport quickly extended the lead to 11 points at 42-31, 90 seconds after the 2nd period started, on a pair of layups by Justin Summers and a 3 point play by Jahidi Wallace. That would be the largest lead of the game. In a game of runs, it was the Seagulls turn as they came right back with a 13-2 streak that tied the game at 44 with 14:36 left to play. It took only 4 minutes and was Brockport's worse stretch of the game as they committed 6 turnovers and went 1x6 from the field. Salisbury hit a trio of three pointers, a jumper, and a layup in that span and it looked like they had the Golden Eagles set up. Brockport responded with a pair of layups by Malick Sylla and a free throw from Tyree Grimsly to jump ahead by 5 points, only to have the Seagulls come roaring back with 7 unanswered points to go up 52-51 with just over 10 minutes to play. Their lead lasted only 14 seconds as that's how long it took Tyler Collins to come down and drain a three to put Port back in front. After a steal by Collins, Sylla did his thing on the next trip down and he buried another threeball and the Golden Eagles never trailed again. With 9:49 to go Brockport had a 57-52 lead that was cut to a 2 point lead when the Seagulls made one from long distance to keep the heat on Brockport. That back and forth lasted for another 3 to 4 minutes until Brockport went up by 2 possessions with 5:41 to play. Up by 3 points, Port got an offensive rebound and putback by Grimsly followed by a jumper by Sylla, after Salisbury came up empty. Once again the Seagulls missed from the field and Grimsly got the defensive rebound and scored another layup on his end. The lead was 68-59 with 4:50 remaining and the Golden Eagles could see the finish line. Salisbury never got closer than 2 possessions after that and now with Port up by 6, I was sure rooting for that meaningless 3 pointer to go in for the Seagulls, with just a few seconds left.   I couldn't be that lucky though.

Brockport shot 45.9 percent (28x61) from the field while  Salisbury shot 38.5 percent (25x65)
Brockport was 4x12 from long range (33%). The Seagulls were only 6x26 (23%)
Brockport was just 15x26 (57.7%) from the line while Salisbury went 13x16 (81.3%)
Both teams had 40 rebounds     

Brockport
Malick Sylla had a game high 18 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist in 21 minutes off the bench. He is now averaging 11 ppg.

Justin Summers had 15 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Jahidi Wallace had 11 points and 5 rebounds.

Tyler Collins had 10 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals.

Tyree Grimsley had a team high 7 rebounds, 7 points, 3 steals and 1 assist in 21 minutes off the bench.

Montgomery Stroman had 4 points, 4 rebounds, 2 steals, and a block in 16 minutes off the bench.



Salisbury
D'Angelo Tull  and Gary Briddell both had 14 points for the Seagulls. Tull also had 6 rebounds,4 assists and 2 steals, while Briddell added 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Brockport is now 3-1 and will be back in action on Friday when they host what should be the Game of the Week in the SUNYAC as Oswego comes to town. Both teams are predicted to do well in conference play this year and the winner of this game will give one of them a leg up. Always tough to win in Brockport but if anyone can do so it's the Lakers. They have won there 3 times in the last 5 years.   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 02, 2019, 12:14:50 PM
Thanks for the reintroduction to D3 board,Magic and Bengal- good to be back--I watched my Eagles play Salisbury St. yesterday and agree with you, Magic, very sloppily played but a W is a W. These early season non-conference games at D1 and D3 that I have been watching have all been sloppy and mistake ridden. Anyway the YAC has been competitive in their non-conference schedule, but need to get more wins when it comes to NCAA at large bids at the end of season. I will be going to Daytona Beach on the 15th and 16th to the Mauro Panaggio Memorial tourney at Mike Panaggio's venue to enjoy my Eagles play. This is big week for them at home against Oswego and Cortland. Two wins would be a great start to the SUNY season! Good Luck, Eagles!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2019, 08:10:30 PM
At Canton, NY; Halftime - SLU 39 Oswego 36.  SLU led 30-20 with 7:30 left, but Lakers crept back with a rebound layup at the buzzer to close within 2.  SLU 0-3, Lakers 4-0.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2019, 08:25:36 PM
Oswego trails St Lawrence  39-36 at halftime.

Lakers not looking sharp and seem to be having a problem with SLU's zone. They have made 6 3 pointers but have taken 22 shots from long range. That's only 27 %. Oswego 7x13 inside the arc.  Saints have made 4  triples but only had 7 attempts. 13x19 field goals inside the arc for 68%.

Julien Crittendon leads the Lakers with 9 points all on 3 from long distance. Joe Sullivan with 8 points and 4 rebounds.  Jeremiah Sparks with 7 points 3 rebounds and 3 assists.

Trent Adamson leads the Saints with 11 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 assists.  Cale Sargent with 10 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assists.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2019, 09:09:04 PM
Oswego and St. Lawrence head to overtime tied at 76. 

Jeremiah Sparks is fouled shooting a 3 pointer and makes all 3 free throws with 18 seconds left to tie the game up. SLU with the last shot but turns it over with 2 seconds on the clock and the Lakers can't get off a final shot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 02, 2019, 09:18:14 PM
St Lawrence defeats Oswego State 83-82 in overtime.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2019, 01:26:41 AM
St. Lawrence 83 Oswego State 82 in overtime.

Oswego has a chance to win it at the buzzer but a floater by Jeremiah Sparks doesn't go down. Lakers' TJ Brescia gets his hand on it and taps it up and in but the buzzer sounds as the ball is on his hand. The refs wave it off and SLU escapes with the win. I had a feeling the outcome might be a St. Lawrence upset when I spotted the new D3hoops Top 25 poll and saw the Lakers had moved from the "Others receiving Votes" category into the #25 spot. That usually is a pretty good jinx on a SUNYAC team's next game when they gain entry into the poll and of course tonight was no exception.   

Still, I thought the Lakers might pull this one off after they got it to overtime, as the Saints have struggled down the stretch of their previous games, which is so common among young teams. Learning how to win in crunch time usually requires a number of lessons. Apparently for the young Saints three lessons were enough as they now are 1-3 with the win tonight.

This was a classic trap game for the Lakers. Playing a non-conference game, on the road, against a team that had already lost to a pair of SUNYAC teams, Potsdam and Plattsburgh, that will struggle to keep up with the Lakers this year in the conference. Oswego had to try and focus on this game when the important game was the upcoming contest against conference rival, Brockport.

The Lakers grabbed the early lead at 17-11 and were still up 20-16 with 11 minutes left in the period. The Saints came charging back with 14 straight points to go up 30-20. They were  led be 8 points and 2 steals from Cale Sargent which included a pair of 3 pointers.
Trent Adamson also had 2 steals and scored the other 6 points in that outburst. Oswego would spend most of the night playing catch-up and the Saints seemed to have an answer every time they got close.

The Lakers were down only by 3 at the half but fell behind once more as the Saints slowly increased their advantage until it was a 9 point margin at 56-47 with 12 minutes remaining. Slowly Oswego started to turn things around. Over the next 9 minutes the Lakers got 11 points from Jeremiah Sparks, 11 points from Brandan Gartland and 4 points from Joe Sullivan to outscore the Saints 26-14 and finally forge into a 73-70 lead, with 2:53 left to play. The Saints got back to back three pointers and retook the lead 76-73 and that set the stage for Sparks 3 foul shots to tie the game with 18 seconds left. There's a ton of pressure to make 3 free throws in a row to gain a tie but the freshman looked like a seasoned pro as he calmly swished all 3 shots to knot the score. I think for the rest of the year, if I was Coach Leone, I'd be inbounding the ball to Mr. Sparks, in the closing seconds, when the foul parade has started. SLU had a chance for the winning shot but as they wound the clock down and got set to drive to the basket they lost the ball and Oswego didn't have enough time to get a shot off. That set the stage for the dramatic overtime that ended with the Saints getting their first win of the season.   

The Lakers didn't shoot particularly well only 30x81 (37%) and even worse from long distance, 11x38 (28.9%). The Saints meanwhile were shooting lights out. They were 35x61 from the field (57.4%) and 10x19 from the arc (52.6%). Oswego did win the rebounding battle 38 to 32 and the turnover stats were in their favor with only 9 giveaways to 16 for the Saints.

Oswego
The Lakers got another huge game from Freshman Jeremiah Sparks who captured scoring honors with a new career high of 27 points. He also got his 2nd straight double-double with 10 rebounds along with 4 assists.

Brandan Gartland had 19 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.

Joe Sullivan also had a double-double with 16 points and a game high 16 rebounds. He added 5 assists 2 steals and a block.


St. Lawrence
Trent Adamson was the hero for St. Lawrence tonight as he led his team with 21 points and scored the final 4 points that gave them the win. The 21 points was a new career high and he doubled his pleasure with a career high and team high 13 rebounds. It marked his first collegiate double-double. He added 3 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks. I spoke to him back on November 19th when he played against  Plattsburgh State and I watched him score 14 points and grab 9 rebounds. I told him I enjoyed his game and that I thought he would be in the mix for Rookie of the Year in the Liberty League. I also mentioned that next year I expected he would make one of the all conference teams. I think he thought I was pulling his leg....I was dead serious. He'll be a star for SLU and the team should be good for the next few years. Their entire rotation will be back next season. With a little luck they could make the Liberty League playoffs in February.

Cale Sargent had 15 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Andrew Geschickter had 15 points, 3 assists, 2 steals and 1 rebound.

Brandon Arnold had 10 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds.

Luke Hicks had 9 points, 5 assists and 4 rebounds.

St Lawrence is now 1-3 and will begin conference play this weekend when they travel south to take on RPI on Friday at 7:30 PM and Union on Saturday at 4:00 PM.


Oswego State falls to 4-1and will travel to Brockport for their conference opener on Friday night at 7:30 PM and Geneseo on Saturday at 4:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2019, 10:00:12 AM
The new D3hoops Top 25 poll was released on Monday night and when I pulled up the front page of the D3 website I knew Oswego had made the Top 25 because I was looking at Big Joe Sullivan's Green and Gold #5 uniform. I wasn't sure the Lakers would make it in because there were 2 teams from the CCIW sitting in front of them in the "Others Receiving Votes" category. That meant 3 teams already in the Top 25 would have to drop out for the Lakers to move in and there was no guarantee that a team behind them wouldn't leap over the Lakers and get in, if 3 spots did open up. In fact that's exactly what happened. Both Elmhurst and Carthage the two CCIW teams moved into 17th place and 21st place. A third team that barely got a mention last week, just a single point, UW-La Crosse from the WIAC conference suddenly was the recipient of 105 points and jumped over at least a dozen teams to land at the #23 spot.

Fortunately, the Lakers slipped into the #25 spot with 64 points, because 4 teams from the previous poll were dropped and the Lakers were the 4th new team to make the Top 25.  Unfortunately, they were barely in the poll when the were upset by St. Lawrence in overtime MOnday night, probably an hour after the poll was posted. ::)

There's a slim chance if they win both games on the weekend they might receive the benefit of the voters who let them hang on with just the one loss. Notice I said, "a slim chance", because I don't think it will happen. There are 3 WIAC teams in the Top 25 right now, #11 UW-Platteville, #13 UW-Oshkosh and #23 UW-La Crosse with another 2 WIAC teams Stevens Point and Eau Claire getting votes. That puts the WIAC behind the CCIW conference as they have 4 teams in the Top 25...#17 Elmhurst,  #19 North Central, #21 Carthage and #24 Augustana. They have a 5th team, Illinois Wesleyan, receiving votes. Both conferences have 9 teams so 10 of the 18 teams in those conferences are in the poll with 7 of them in the Top 25. The NESCAC only has 2 teams in the Top 25, #4 Middlebury, and #14 Amherst, but they have 3 teams sitting in the Others Receiving Votes category. At the top of that list at #26 is Hamilton College with Colby and Tufts further back. Right behind Hamilton at #27 is UW-Stevens Point. The voters are looking for a reason to put both those teams into the Top 25. So they will need two teams to drop out. I think Oswego, even if they win their two weekend games, will drop off the poll and into the Others category. Then the only way they get back in is if they have a long winning streak. Been there and done that a number of times with the SUNYAC schools.

Rochester is the only other team in the East Region receiving votes but the Yellowjackets suffered a loss last week to Hobart and their vote total dropped from 33 down to only 5.

Here is the link to the latest D3hoops Top 25 Poll:

   https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2019-20/week2     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2019, 04:04:56 PM
December 3rd      Just a single game on the schedule today.

SUNY-Canton  at   Geneseo State   5:00 PM

The Knights look to start a winning streak as they host the Kangaroos from SUNY-Canton. They come into the game with a 2-3 record and have been inconsistent so far in the early going. They have 2 wins but the competition is not that stellar, as those teams have a combined record of 2-11. The Knights have struggled to put points on the board in their losses as they've only averaged 57 ppg. They lost to Alfred, two weeks ago scoring just 52 points in the process. Tonight's game will be the first time these schools have played each other so there is no previous history.

Canton has a 4-3 record with wins over 2 teams that come into play here. A week ago the Kangaroos won a 97-87 game against St. Lawrence and last night the Saints upset SUNYAC powerhouse Oswego State. Previous to that Canton defeated Clarkson College 60-52 and that school owns a win over Alfred at Alfred. Those two wins are better than anything that the Knights have put up this year. The 3 losses that the Kangaroos have been saddled with, came from teams that have a combined record of 17-2. One of them is the #4 in the country.

The oddsmakers have made Geneseo a 5 point favorite in this game but I'm not sure the Knights will be the winner here. I hope they are but if I was betting on this game I'd put my money on the Kangaroos. I see them winnng by a final score of 72-66. Hope I'm wrong on this one.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2019, 05:41:19 PM
Canton 29 Geneseo 28 at the half

Joseph Harclerode with 7 points and 5 rebounds to lead Geneseo. Terrance Nichols, Alex Merhige, and Michael Gannon all with 5 points. Merhige with 6 boards.


Canton gets 13 points from Quran Dubois.  George Nehma is next with 6 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 03, 2019, 06:40:33 PM
Geneseo 65 Canton 59   Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 04, 2019, 12:31:45 PM
Geneseo 65 Canton 59

I got this one wrong and glad I did, as I had the Knights losing 72-66. Geneseo hung tough on several different occasions and finally made the big move when needed, to give them the W. I take comfort in the fact that I got what a wanted....a SUNYAC win and that the Knights' final score of 65 points was just 1 away from my predicted 66. Happy the Roos couldn't hit 70. Lots of good interior defense by the Knights to keep the opponents in check.   

The Knights trailed by 1 at the break, grabbed the lead early in the 2nd period and went up by 5 points, 4 minutes into the period. Canton put together an 11-4 run to go back in front 45-43 with 13 minutes to go. The Knights were still trailing by 3 at 51-48, with 8:21 left, when Michael Gannon scored 5 straight points to set in motion the game's defining run. Geneseo scored 13 unanswered points during that stretch, to grab a double digit lead at 61-51 with under 4 minutes left in the game. Canton never recovered and got no closer than 3 points the rest of the way. The Knights hit 3 of 5 from the line, in the final minute, to close the door.

Geneseo shot the ball better than the Kangaroos 41% to 33% and had 44 rebounds to 40 for Canton. The Knights had 14 turnovers to 13 for the Roos.

Geneseo
Michael Gannon led the Knights with a double-double of 18 points and 11 rebounds. He added a pair of assists and a steal. He was 4x8 from long distance with 3 of them coming in the 2nd half.
Alex Merhige had 14 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals.
Joseph Harclerode had 11 points, 6 rebounds and 2 blocks.
Sean Crowley had 10 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a block in 23 minutes off the bench.
Terrance Nichols had 8 points, 3 assists, a steal and a rebound in 32 minutes off the bench.


Canton
Danny Santana was the leading scorer in the game with 19 points. He also had 5 rebounds and 2 steals.
Quran DuBois  had 18 points, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.
Joseph Werner had 10 rebounds, 6 points, 4 steals, 2 assists and 2 blocks.


Geneseo evens their record at 3-3 and will host Cortland on Friday evening at 7:30 to begin conference play. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 05, 2019, 04:12:48 PM
Week #4  The SUNYAC Player of the Week      Week Ending 11-30

Jeremiah Sparks   Oswego State     Freshman Guard    Write-up is from the SUNYAC website.   

"The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) selects Oswego's Jeremiah Sparks (Jordan, N.Y.) as this week's PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week recipient.

Freshman Sparks scored 25 points and added 11 rebounds in leading Oswego to a 77-73 road victory over Nazareth College to help the Lakers remain undefeated at 4-0 on the season. The Jordan, N.Y. native scored 11 straight points in the key second-half run that put Oswego up for good."

Actually Jeremiah made 12 straight points for the Lakers taking his team from 53 to 65 points in a 3 minute stretch that gave them a 9 point lead.  Congratulations on a great game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 06, 2019, 12:58:17 PM
Let's Get Ready To Rumble.

Finally some SUNYAC games on tap tonight.

I have My Oneonta Red Dragons playing against Magicman's Cardinals at Dewar Arena.
Think my Red Dragons take this one at Home.

Anxiously waiting for Magicman's prediction.

Enjoy the games!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 06:48:10 PM
Dec. 6   Four games to start the SUNYAC season all tipping off at 7:30


Not much time to make my picks as I've been working (and still am) on my rundown of the teams for the season which i will post later on.    


Cortland State   at  Geneseo State               7:30 PM

The Red Dragons will showcase 2 new players that I think will prove to be a handful for the Knights. The oddsmakers have Cortland favored by a single point. I think they win by a few more. Cortland wins 75-70.


Oswego State   at    Brockport State               7:30 PM

I believe the Lakers are coming off a loss that had them looking ahead to this game. And now that they have this game they may be sorry for what they wished for. Early season supremecy is on the line in this one. The Golden Eagles will be swarming and the Lakers don't have an exceptionally long bench. Fatigue could play a factor in this one. And so could turnovers. The oddsmakers have Brockport favored by a slim 2 point margin. Brockport tough to beat at home but if anyone can do it... it would be the Lakers. So I'll take Oswego to win by a 77-74 final score. 


Plattsburgh State  at  Oneonta State         7:30 PM

These Red Dragons need to right the ship. Playing against their coach's old team gives them all the incentive they need. Oneonta is just 1-6 against Plattsburgh since Coach Conover took over at Oneonta but that 1 was the last time they met. Now he's looking to start a streak. Both teams come into the game with losing records on the young season. Plattsburgh had to replace all 5 starters and had to get  a new coach....not an easy feat. Oneonta had all 5 starters return and their 1-3 start is disappointing. They'll look to turn things around starting tonight. The point spread favors the Red Dragons by 4 points. I think they win by more, but hope I'm wrong. Oneonta 82 Plattsburgh 74.



Potsdam State  at  New Paltz State                  7:30 PM

These two teams are pretty evenly matched. New Paltz returns a little more than the Bears but Potsdam has some new faces that have provided some good offense. One of those new faces is Brandon Segar, who is averaging 16.3 ppg and 9.3 rpg through 4 ganes in a Potsdam uniform. Segar is a  6'6" junior forward and he didn't play in the Bears last game so his availability is in question for tonight's game. The other new face is 6'6" freshman center Tyrese Baptist. He's averaging a double-double of 11.8 ppg and 10.6 rpg.  The line on the game has Potsdan favored by 4 points and if Segar plays I think the Bears will win 82-78. If the Bears don't have Segar I think the Hawks will win this game by a final score of 78-73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2019, 08:00:10 PM
Can new paltz possibly get their stats to work?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 08:19:55 PM
Allways seems to be a problem there.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 08:28:38 PM
Oneonta 46 Plattsburgh 45 at the break.

The Cardinals came back from an 11 point deficit 40-29 to end the period on a 16-6 run fueled by 9 points from Travis Cox.
Cox with 13 points and 7 rebunds to lead the Cardinals.  Jeremy Eisenman also with 13 points and 4 rebounds as he was 3x4 from downtown. Adam jaquish witth 6 [oints and Nick DeAngilis with 5.

Oenonta gets 13 points,3 boards and 3 assists from Joe Bull. Dylan Trombley has 11 points going 3x3 from long distance.
Kevin Mackin and Harrison Deegam bot have 9 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2019, 08:36:42 PM
Thanks Magic.  Potsdam leads host New Paltz 42-35 at the half.  Cortland leads Geneseo 30-25 after Dragons ran out to a big lead.  Game of the night, tho is Brockport Eagles lead the Oswego Lakers 36-32 at intermission.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 08:42:17 PM
Brockport 36 Oswego 32 at the half.


Colby Moultrie leads Oswego with 11 points going 3x3 from deep. Jeremiah Sparks has 9 points and 4 rebounds. Jordan Brown with 4 points and 8 rebounds.

Jahidi Wallace leads Brockport with 9 points. Malick Sylla has 7 points. Justin Summers with 6 points and 6 boards.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 08:50:13 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 06, 2019, 08:36:42 PM
Thanks Magic.  Potsdam leads host New Paltz 42-35 at the half.  Cortland leads Geneseo 30-25 after Dragons ran out to a big lead.  Game of the night, tho is Brockport Eagles lead the Oswego Lakers 36-32 at intermission.

Cortland getting 14 points and 7 boards from Austin Grunder.


Geneseo led by 7 points from Elijah Wingfield and Joseph Harclerode.




Potsdam now in front 46-37 with 17 minutes to play.

Potsdam getting 12 points from Jayquan Thomas and 9 from Isaiah Joseph.

New Paltz has 11 points from RJ Myers-Turner.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 09:21:58 PM
Final score Oneonta 97 Plattsburgh 76
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 09:26:35 PM
Final score Potsdam 79 New Paltz 60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 09:41:06 PM
Cortland 75 Geneseo 66 Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 06, 2019, 09:42:26 PM
Brockport 68 Oswego 67 Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 06, 2019, 10:10:29 PM
Potsdam New Paltz final was 83-70, refs decided they wanted to see a technical foul shooting contest at the end. Sad just sad.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 03:34:49 PM
Dec. 7               All ten teams in action today with all games tipping off at 4:00 PM   


Oswego State  at  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

The Lakers coming off a tough loss to Brockport last night will look to get back on track after a 2 game losing streak. Their stay in the Top 25 will be over on Monday when the new poll comes out and they can get back to the business of winning basketball games. Geneseo will try hard but come up short. The Knights are 7 point underdogs. I think they lose by a few more. Oswego 82 Geneseo 71.

Cortland State  at  Brockport State        4:00 PM

The Red Dragons are 5 point underdogs in this one and will get a good idea of where they stand in the YAC pecking order when this weekend is over. Brockport looking for the early season league lead. I have to go with the Golden Eagles in this one by a 79-72 final score.


Plattsburgh State  at  New Paltz State   4:00 PM

The Cardinals played a solid first half yesterday against Oneonta. In the second half they couldn't keep up with the Red Dragons as Oneonta shot 59% to Plattsburgh's 30 %. They hope that won't be the case today. The Hawks look to rebound from the loss to Potsdam. Oddsmakers give the Cardinals a slight edge listing them as a 2 point favorite. I'll take my Cardinals in this one by an 83-81 final


Fredonia State  at  Buffalo State        4:00 PM

The Bengals haven't played in 10 days, the Blue Devils haven't played in 14 days. Both teams coming off identical 89-83 losses but the Bengals' was against stiffer competition. Bengals are favored by 11 points in this one. That sounds right. Buffalo State 84 Fredonia 73.


Potsdam State  at  Oneonta State        4:00 PM

The Bears are without one of their new players and he will be missed in today's game. Oneonta looked good yesterday in their win over Plattsburgh State. They may not shoot that well today but should still be able to get the W in this game. The oddsmakers have only favored them by 3 points but I think the Red Dragons will win by a few more than that. Oneonta 81 Potsdam 75. 
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Post by: scooterman on December 07, 2019, 03:58:59 PM
The Eagles squeaked one out last night with the Lakers, but look for an Eagle explosion today against the Dragons. I think the Eagles will come out with fire in their eyes and show consistency today, which they will need to make this a double digit victory. Cortland is always a tough game but second day, afternoon game on the road, will catch up to the Dragons. Good luck, Eagles!!!!
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 04:51:10 PM
Plattsurgh Leads New Paltz 34-26 at the half.

Travis Cox and Adam Jacquish both with 8 points for Plattsburgh. Nick DeAngelis with 6 points. Cox and Jeremy Eisenman with 5 boards each.

Jake Passaretti with 8 points for the Hawks and Rylan Blondo with 5.
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 04:53:54 PM
Brockport leads Cortland 38-33 at the half.

Justin Summers with 13 points and 5 rebounds. for the Golden Eagles.


Austin Grunder with 13 points and 11 rebounds for Cortland.
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 04:58:09 PM
Oswego leads Geneseo 33-30 at the half.

Joe Sullivan with 11 points and 9 rebounds for the Lakers. Caleb Cook with 6 poits.

Aaron Davis with 11 points for Geneseo.
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Buffalo State 39 Fredonia 39 at halftime.

Now early in the 2nd half and the Blue Devils are up 44-41.

Dydy Bryan with 17 [oints to lead Fredonia so far.

Sheldon Adams with 10 points for the Bengals.

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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 05:06:19 PM
Oneonta leads Potsdam 32-24 at the half.

Joe Bull with 12 points and 5 rebounds ot lead Oneonta.


Danny Delsol-Lowry and Tyrese Baptiste both with 8 points for the Bears.

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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 05:53:11 PM
Plattsburgh 81 New Paltz 60 Final score.
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 05:55:26 PM
Brockport  86    Cortland  73 Final score.
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 05:57:43 PM
Oswego State 70 Geneseo State 59  Finak score.
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 05:58:50 PM
Buffalo State 85 Fredonia 74  Final score.
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Post by: thebear on December 07, 2019, 06:01:55 PM
at Oneonta - old fashioned hard nosed struggle, Oneonta 55 Potsdam 53 1:35 left
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Post by: scooterman on December 07, 2019, 06:03:04 PM
Congrats, Eagles!!! The best game of the season from my perspective. You played solid for 40 minutes, great use of the bench for the second game of the weekend. Looking forward to seeing the guys next weekend down here in Daytona. 2-0 in the SUNYAC!!!!!! Great start!!!
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Post by: thebear on December 07, 2019, 06:11:00 PM
Epic game, Potsdam ties with 7 secs at 60-60, Oneonta scores with 1.1 left Potsdam 3 point shot at the buzzer bounces off the rim.  Oneonta 62 Potsdam 60. Potsdam's leading scorer Jayquan Thomas 17 ppg was a DNP this afternoon.
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Post by: magicman on December 07, 2019, 06:16:57 PM
Oneonta 62 Potsdam 60

Undoubtedly the closest and most exciting finish of all the games today.  Oneonta was up 60-57 with a chance to make it a 2 possession game at the line but missed both free throws with 18 seconds to go. Potsdam rebounded the 2nd miss and quickly came down and went to Isaiah Joseph who drained a triple to tie the game with 8 seconds left. Oneonta then rushed to their end and Ian Schultz swished a jumper for the lead with 1.1 second on the clock. Potsdam made a valiant effort to get off a shot at the buzzer and did so from just inside half court. It had a chance but was just off and the Red Dragons escaped with the win. 
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Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
Closing 2019 with a win vs our lake Erie rival Fredonia.  What more could a BENGAL ask for?  Not one of the cleanest games by Buff State standards but a win is a win. Encouraged by the 2nd game in a row where 5 BENGALS are in double figures.  Sheldon Adams not only continues to lead in scoring but added 8 assists and 7 boards. Mark Worthy comes off the bench and hits 4 three pointers, Kay Grant and Jordan Christopher both continue thier solid play and freshman Aaron Davis has another double digit performance.

Long break until next game but these kids go on break with a winning feeling .  Lord knows that having to face Oswego, Cortland and Brockport, on the road,  in your next 3 SUNYAC games, is not the most settling thing for Xmas dinner.  But the BENGALS will cross that bridge when they get there? For now...

Go BENGALS!
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Post by: magicman on December 10, 2019, 06:34:00 PM
December 10th   1 game today which i didn't know about

St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) at  New Paltz State

The Hawks are a slim 2 point favorite in this game and even though their record is not as good as the Bears, I think they have played a tougher schedule. I'll take new Paltz to win this one by a 68-60 final score.
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Post by: magicman on December 10, 2019, 07:26:32 PM
New Paltz defeats St. Joseph's (Bklyn.) 67-61.
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Post by: All-Time on December 11, 2019, 12:23:56 PM
Went to Alumni weekend up at Oneonta on Saturday.
It was Great to see some of the Greats that played at Dewar arena.
Just to name a few, Hooks, Gillette, Coleman, Williams, Kolosky, McElroy, Kelly and Mager.
What was also special was Mackin scoring his 1000th point on Friday night.

Most of the guys above were recruited by Coach Medici who made the trip to see this former players.
It was a wonderful day and Coach Cam was a great host.

I did get to see Magicman's Bears play and I liked what I saw out of this group.
They were Gritty and played with a lot of Swagger.
The future is bright in North Country for the Bears.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by: Bengalsrule on December 11, 2019, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: All-Time on December 11, 2019, 12:23:56 PM
Went to Alumni weekend up at Oneonta on Saturday.
It was Great to see some of the Greats that played at Dewar arena.
Just to name a few, Hooks, Gillette, Coleman, Williams, Kolosky, McElroy, Kelly and Mager.
What was also special was Mackin scoring his 1000th point on Friday night.

Most of the guys above were recruited by Coach Medici who made the trip to see this former players.
It was a wonderful day and Coach Cam was a great host.

I did get to see Magicman's Bears play and I liked what I saw out of this group.
They were Gritty and played with a lot of Swagger.
The future is bright in North Country for the Bears.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The Mager kid was especially tough.
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Post by: magicman on December 11, 2019, 07:00:15 PM
Sounds like All-Time had a good time.

Always great to see the all the players come back for Alumni Weekend. You get to catch up on how they're doing and see what fine young men they turned out to be. Always a highlight of the basketball season.

The Bears are getting better no doubt about it. Coach Bechtel has them going in the right direction. Tough loss to the Red Dragons but encouraging to know they hung with them in Oneonta. Could be trouble when the Red Dragons hit the North Country.

Mager, McElroy and Kelly.....three of my favorite Red Dragons. 8-)   
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Post by: magicman on December 11, 2019, 09:02:31 PM
Cortland's Austin Grunder was named to the D3hoops Team of the Week for the Games of Dec. 2-Dec. 8, 2019. Austin was also chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 12-8.

Here's the write up from the D3hoops front page:

Austin Grunder

Grunder averaged 28 points, 18 rebounds, two assists, and two blocks per game as Cortland split its opening two SUNYAC games. He scored 27 points on 10-of-18 shooting, grabbed 17 rebounds, and blocked two shots in a 75-66 win at Geneseo, Friday. The following afternoon he scored 29 points (10-20 FG, 9-10 FT), pulled down 18 rebounds, handed out four assists, and added three steals in an 86-73 loss at Brockport. Grunder currently leads the nation in rebounding.

Here's the link to the complete Team of the Week:     https://d3hoops.prestosports.com/awards/tow/2019-20/week4


Austin was also chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 12-8. The same write-up was on the SUNYAC website.

Congratulation to Austin on a great beginning to his Cortland career. Hope he continues to lead the nation in rebounding.
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Post by: magicman on December 12, 2019, 06:38:03 PM
The latest D3hoops Top 25 came out on Monday and Oswego with 2 losses since the previous poll has dropped completely off the list. No SUNYAC schools are receiving any votes and the only East Region team mentioned is Rochester, with 15 points, in the #35 spot.

Since Hobart beat Rochester and Brockport beat both Hobart and last week's #25 Oswego State, I'm surprised that Brockport didn't get at least a few votes. Both Brockport and Hobart only have 1 loss like Rochester.   
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Post by: thebear on December 12, 2019, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: magicman on December 12, 2019, 06:38:03 PM
The latest D3hoops Top 25 came out on Monday and Oswego with 2 losses since the previous poll has dropped completely off the list. No SUNYAC schools are receiving any votes and the only East Region team mentioned is Rochester, with 15 points, in the #35 spot.

Since Hobart beat Rochester and Brockport beat both Hobart and last week's #25 Oswego State, I'm surprised that Brockport didn't get at least a few votes. Both Brockport and Hobart only have 1 loss like Rochester.   

Brockport had a bad loss to Morrisville who is 3-4 with losses to bad teams, Oswego lost to a not very good SLU team, Agree that Hobart lost by a point at 'port and should probably be getting votes.
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Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 13, 2019, 02:54:05 PM
The problem is if you start diving into it, it all unravels.

So Hobart loses to Brockport .. and Brokcport beat Rochester ... it creates a ridiculous comparison. Brockport has that loss to Morrisville that sticks out... as a result, their win over Rochester makes me less inclined to vote for Rochester. Since Hobart also lost to Brockport, I'm less inclined to vote for Hobart (even if it is a point) all because I'm certainly not voting for Morrisville.

I removed Oswego because as good as I thought they had been, losing twice in one week isn't good enough right now. Not with so much parity across the country in DIII. And a loss to Brockport.

I may overlook these losses if the teams show later in the season it may have been a one-off type game, but right now, early in the poll, I just decided to cut my losses and move on.

I hope that made sense. I've rewritten this four times and I think I'm starting to confuse myself ... another reason I cut my losses and moved on when I voted.
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Post by: magicman on December 13, 2019, 05:01:52 PM
Dec. 13                    One game scheduled for today as the Bears take on the host school

Potsdam State  at  York (N.Y.)        5:30 PM   Game 1 of the York College Invitational.

The Bears are hoping to get leading scorer Jayquan Thomas back for today's game. Also missing is 2nd leading scorer Brandon Segar Jr. who will probably not be in uniform today.

York College is 3-5 overall but has a couple of wins that are interesting. They defeated SUNY-Maritime 83-70. Maritime defeated New Paltz 94-80 on November 23rd. That result would indicate that York should beat New Paltz by double digits, which is what Potsdam did last weekend, downing the Hawks 83-70.  York also owns a win over Old Westbury just 3 days ago by a 77-70 score. Old Westbury defeated DeSales last week by an 81-76 score. DeSales was the winner of the Oneonta State tip off tournament back on the 15th and 16th of November. DeSales beat Alvernia for the title and Alvernia had beaten Oneonta the day before 71-70. So York beat the team that beat the winner of Oneonta's tournament, who beat the team that beat Oneonta. Have you got that???  ;D    Sure sounds like York should be competitve here against the Bears.

The oddsmakers have made Potsdam a 14 point favorite over the home team Cardinals. I'm hoping that York is the only Cardinal team the Bears get the W against this season. I'll take the Bears in this one but I think it'll be a little closer than the experts prediction. Potsdam 78 York 70.     

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Post by: thebear on December 13, 2019, 06:24:07 PM
Potsdam 31 York [NY] 31 at Halftime.  Bears had several major players in foul trouble, York went on a 13-0 run to lead 28-19 with 3:00 left, Bears staged a comeback to tie on a Dante Viskovich Trey with :07.  No live stats, video only shows scores at timeouts. :-(
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Post by: magicman on December 13, 2019, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: thebear on December 13, 2019, 06:24:07 PM
Potsdam 31 York [NY] 31 at Halftime.  Bears had several major players in foul trouble, York went on a 13-0 run to lead 28-19 with 3:00 left, Bears staged a comeback to tie on a Dante Viskovich Trey with :07.  No live stats, video only shows scores at timeouts. :-(

Sad that schools can't give live stats for the fans of the road team and others who can't make the game. No on screen scoreboard or announcers  is also frustrating. I imagine we'll be lucky if there is a box score available after the game as well. Probably have to wait until the Potsdam SID posts the results on the Potsdam website.
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Post by: magicman on December 13, 2019, 07:35:41 PM
Apparently it's overtime as YorKand Potsdam appear to be tied at 71.

Worst broadcast I've ever seen. Half the time the camera doesn't even show you the action as it doesn't focus on where the ball is. Instead of showing the area around the basket we're left looking at the center court or end court area. Had no idea what the score was the entire 2nd half until there were 19 seconds left in the game.
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Post by: magicman on December 13, 2019, 08:04:10 PM
Looks like Potsdam State defeated York 88-84 in overtime. Hard to tell since Potsdam had two foul shots with 2 seconds on the clock but the camera guy didn't show the basket so it was hard to tell if Potsdam made any of those final 2 free throws. I thought he missed them both but I could be wrong.

The score of this game should have been Potsdam 73   York 71 as the Bears made a basket with just 1 or 2 seconds left in regulation but one of the refs called the Potsdam player, who made the pass to the scoring player, for an offensive foul and the basket wasn't counted. That would have made the score much closer to my 78-70 prediction. I didn't figure there would be an overtime in this one.

Glad to see the Bears pull this one out with both their top two scorers missing the game. Tomorrow they will face either           SUNY-Purchase or Gwynedd Mercy.


Checking out the box score for this game. Refs kept their whistles firmly between their lips as they whisltled the 2 teams for 64 fouls between them.   
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Post by: magicman on December 14, 2019, 05:15:09 AM
Dec. 14                         Just one game on tap for today           

Potsdam  vs  SUNY-Purchase   3:00 PM        @ at York (NY)  Championship game of the York College Invitational.

The Bears fought back from deficits several times yesterday to defeat the host team 88-84 in overtime and advance to play Purchase for the championship. The Panthers defeated Gwynedd Mercy 80-73.

Purchase has already played 1 SUNYAC team this year and that was back on November 15th when they lost to Cortland on a last second 3 pointer 87-86. They have a bad loss to Sage College, another bad loss by 25 points to Neumann College but lately have ripped off 4 wins in a row. Most impressive was a 21 point beatdown of Hamilton College 97-76 just last week.
If that Purchase team shows up I think the Bears are on the short end of the score.

The experts have made Potsdam a 5 point favorite in this game. I think if the Bears were at full strength that might be the case. Missing their top two scorers, however doesn't lead me to believe they'll win this game. I sure hope they do but think they come up short. Purchase wins a close one 76-72.   
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 04:01:11 PM
Potsdam 40 Purchase 31 2:18 left first half.  Bears ran out to a 14-2 lead in the first four minutes, been up and down since then.  Bears without three starters to start the game.
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 04:10:02 PM
Potsdam 44 Purchase 35 Halftime, no live stats, no running score. Go Bears.
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Post by: magicman on December 14, 2019, 04:22:53 PM
I've been watching the game on and off but had no idea who was winning. Finally saw a score as the first half ended that showed home 44 and visitor 35 but I had no idea who was home and who was the visitor. Since the Bears were in white I assumed they were designated as the home team. Looks like they were.

Thanks Bear for the update.

Surprised to see the Bears in front without their starters. Didn't expect to see Baptiste on the bench along with the other two starters I knew were out. Coach Bechtel getting to experiment with lots of different starting combinations these days. Will only benefit the team down the road.  Go Bears.
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 04:51:45 PM
9:49 left, Purchase 61 Potsdam 61.  This is gonna be close.
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
6:11 left Purchase 68 Potsdam 67
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 05:08:21 PM
Potsdam 73 Purchase 72 3:13 left
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 05:22:22 PM
Potsdam 82 Purchase 83 :18 left Purchase ball.
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 05:25:11 PM
Bears just stole the inbounds, jacked a three Potsdam 85- Purchase 83 :06 left.
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
Potsdam fould purchase 85-85 :06 left, Potsdam ball
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 05:27:49 PM
Purchase wins at the buzzer 88-83.
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Post by: magicman on December 14, 2019, 05:36:25 PM
Wasn't there a technical called? Purchase got 2 foul shots and the ball. Scored 5 points in 6 seconds.Of couse the camera angle didn't show us anything.

Or maybe they called a flagrant foul?
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Post by: magicman on December 14, 2019, 05:49:44 PM
Final score was Purchase 88 Potsdam 85.  Strange call at the end. No idea what it was.  Waiting for the box score.
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 06:06:14 PM
me too.
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Post by: thebear on December 14, 2019, 07:02:20 PM
Stats are Up.

Potsdam hits a trey with :10.  Refs call a T on a Potsdam player with :06.  Purchase makes both FT's and the ball.

Makes a trey with :01 final Purchase 88- Potsdam 85

Ugh
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Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 02:17:58 AM
Quote from: thebear on December 14, 2019, 07:02:20 PM
Stats are Up.

Potsdam hits a trey with :10.  Refs call a T on a Potsdam player with :06.  Purchase makes both FT's and the ball.

Makes a trey with :01 final Purchase 88- Potsdam 85

Ugh

I think the Bears got "purchased".  I had the Bears losing a close one but was rooting like hell I was wrong, as the game wound down to the final seconds...... after watching the finish I think they got hosed.   
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Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 10:03:34 AM
Dec. 15                Two games on the schedule today as the Holiday Tournaments continue.    

St. Joseph's (Maine)  vs  Brockport State     2:00 PM   Brockport's  Mauro Panaggio Tournament @ Daytona Beach, FL

The  Monks of St. Joe's are just 2-5 coming into this game and giving up over 90 points a game. They have committed 22 turnovers a game in those 5 losses. The Golden Eagles constant pressure should keep those numbers at that level or higher.

Brockport has put together a solid 5 game winning streak since their opening loss and are favored by 11 points in this game. I think they win by a few more. Brockport 94 St. Joseph's 78.     




Cortland State  vs  Eastern University   7:00 PM   @ Miami Shores, Florida       HOOPMIA D3 HOLIDAY SHOOTOUT

Eastern could pose some problems for Cortland as they start a pair of 6'8" forwards, a 6'4" forward and bring in perhaps their best big man, a 6'6" 5th year player off the bench. Their record is only 4-4 but they have been dealing with some injuries and if healthy would be better than that record suggests.

Cortland has been up and down. A close win over Purchase on a last second 3 pointer was followed by a close loss to rival Ithaca, when the Red Dragons blew a 6 point lead and scored just a single point in the final 5 minutes of that game. Last weekend another close win over Geneseo (Cortland trailed 63-62 with under 2 minutes to play) was followed by a 13 point loss to Brockport. New additions  Austin Grunder, the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week, and Eric Edwards have been bright spots for Cortland. It will be interesting to see how they fare against the big men of Eastern. Grunder is leading the nation in rebounding with 18.3 rpg and he's averaging 23 ppg as well. Edwards' numbers are 18 ppg and 6 rpg.

The oddsmakers have favored Cortland by 4 points in this one. Should be a close one. I'll take Cortland to win 77-72.


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Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 02:53:49 PM
I must be on Bizarro World. Brought up the Brockort-St. Joe's game on live stats. It showed the game was over and Brockport lost 81-80. Had Justin Summers with 0 points and 2 rebounds in 10 minutes off the bench. No Jahidi Wallace in the game at all.   

I couldn't believe my eyes. How could Port lose to this team? Well if Summers only played 10 minutes and didn't score and Wallace didn't play at all. I suppose it's possible but I think Brockport could beat this team even without those two guys. The bench wouldn't be as long but they would still get the W.

I went to the D3hoops scoreboard and there it was Brockport 80 St. Joe's 81. Game over. How is this possible...the game wasn't supposed to start until 2 PM and it's only 2:02 PM?


Finally went to the Brockport website to verify the start time. Yep 2:00 PM start. They had a live stats link there so I clicked on it.  Up popped the stats showing Brockport up 7-3.  I'm looking at stats from a game just starting...yet I have another window open showing the same two teams with the game over and all the same players with point totals and minutes.

In fact here's the box score to show I really am on Bizarro World.

St Joseph's (Maine) 81     Brockport              80
Final   1   2   T
St. Joseph's (Maine)   37   44   81
Brockport                  29   51   80

Box Score

Play by Play   Team Stats  1st Half   2nd Half    Coach's View

Box Score

St. Joseph's (Maine)
PLAYER                    MIN   FGM-A   3PM-A   FTM-A   OREB   DREB   REB   AST   STL   BLK   TO   PF   PTS
STARTERS   
0 - Williams, Dontae - f   27   8-10   0-0   3-4   6   5   11   3   0   1   3   4   19
30 - Michael Ferrie - f   37   2-9   2-6   0-0   0   0   0   2   1   1   1   1   6
3 - Scott, Keonn - g   30   7-14   6-9   0-0   0   1   1   4   2   0   3   2   20
10 - Mahdi, Khaylen - g   19   0-3   0-3   0-0   1   0   1   2   1   0   0   0   0
32 - Billy O'Keefe - g   34   8-17   3-9   3-5   1   8   9   6   4   2   3   4   22
RESERVES   
1 - Styers, Brandon - g   23   2-2   1-1   0-0   0   4   4   1   1   0   0   0   5
4 - Bishop, Drew - g   13   2-6   1-3   0-0   0   1   1   0   0   0   1   0   5
5 - Franklin, Jaylen - g   3   0-0   0-0   2-2   0   0   0   0   1   0   1   2   2
11 - Johnson, Hamilton - g   3   0-0   0-0   0-2   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   2   0
13 - Zac Manoogian - f   9   1-2   0-0   0-0   2   2   4   1   0   0   1   4   2
24 - David Keohan - g   0   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
33 - Patrick Kelly - f   2   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0   0   0   1   0   2   1   0
TM - TEAM               1   0   1            1   0   
TOTALS       30-63   13-31   8-13   11   21   32   20   11   4   16   20   81
       47.6%   41.9%   61.5%   
Brockport
PLAYER                    MIN   FGM-A   3PM-A   FTM-A   OREB   DREB   REB   AST   STL   BLK   TO   PF   PTS
STARTERS   
2 - Robinson, Sammy - g   34   8-16   3-7   7-7   2   4   6   1   2   1   1   2   26
20 - Malick Sylla - g   15   0-1   0-1   0-0   0   1   1   2   1   0   1   0   0
24 - Hare, Dennis - g   25   4-5   0-1   3-4   0   1   1   3   0   0   4   4   11
30 - Asenjo, Matt - g   20   3-7   0-1   2-4   1   3   4   1   1   0   4   3   8
22 - Montgomery Stroman   31   6-8   1-1   1-2   1   4   5   0   2   1   2   1   14
RESERVES   
5 - Williams, Sean   23   2-5   1-2   0-0   1   4   5   2   0   0   2   2   5
10 - Davonte Jones - g   14   0-1   0-1   0-0   0   1   1   1   0   0   4   2   0
11 - Tyler Sullivan - g   10   2-2   0-0   2-2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   6
12 - Brandon Kennedy-Gay - g   18   3-4   1-1   3-3   0   5   5   0   0   0   0   1   10
23 - Justin Summers   10   0-4   0-1   0-0   0   2   2   0   0   1   0   2   0
TM - TEAM               1   0   1            0   0   
TOTALS       28-53   6-16   18-22   6   25   31   10   6   3   18   17   80
       52.8%   37.5%   81.8%   
Game Information
Date/Time:   December 15, 2019
Location:   DME Sports Academy
Technical fouls:   St. Joseph's (Maine)-1 ( Franklin, Jaylen; TEAM) ; Brockport-1 ( Hare, Dennis; TEAM) .
Attendance:   100


Turns out this is the box score for the first game between St John Fisher and Wooster which was won by Wooster 81-80. ;D

Somehow they have the players from both teams in the box score. Just checked the D3hoops scoreboard and they have erased the Brockport score. I've left Bizzaro World and am back home on planet Earth...Thank God. 8-) 




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 03:08:49 PM
Brockport leads St. Joseph's (Maine) 41-34 at the half.

After getting the Bejesus scared outta me with a fake news score, I am happy to report the Golden Eagles are in front by 7 at the break.

Justin Summers has been unstoppable for Brockport. He is well on his way to another double-double as he poured in 17 points and grabbed 6 rebounds. Jahidi Wallace has 11 points and 5 rebounds. Tyler Collins with 5 points and 2 assistrs.

Port was up by as many as 13 on several occasions but St. Joe's has had a barrage of 3 pointers to keep it as close as it is. The Monks have made 8 threes, 4 two point baskets and 2 free throws to get to their 34 points.

St Joe's is led by Griffin Foley with 14 points. He has 3 of the Monks' buckets from long distance. Jack Casale has 11 points and 3 rebounds.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 03:53:19 PM
Brockport 83   St Joseph's (Maine) 73  Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 06:12:59 PM
Brockport State  83  St Joseph's (Maine)  73

Brockport led this game from start to finish and had double digit leads for a good portion of the game. At different points in both halves St. Joe's would bunch together a few three pointers and cut the deficit to single digits. Every time they did Brockport would respond in a matter of seconds usually to re-establish a 10 to 15 point lead again. With less than 3 minutes played in the 2nd half Brockport had increased their 7 point halftime lead to 15 points at 51-36. The Monks got within 7 and Port went back up by 11. St. Joe'scut it to 6, Brockport went ahead by 15.  Still up by 16 at 74-58 with 6:37 to play, Brockport got a little sloppy and the Monks hit a flurry of trifectas to get as close as a two possession game at 79-73 with 2:03 to play. The Golden Eagles shut them out the rest of the way to win by 10 points.

St Joe's hit 15 three pointers (15x31) to keep this game from being a blowout. As I mentioned in my preview the Monks commit a lot of turnovers and Brockport would be able to take advantage of that. And they did..... forcing the Monks into 28 turnovers that resulted in 30 points for the Golden Eagles. Port won the battle of the boards 42-34. Shooting percentages were fairly even as were free throws. Port only attempted 12 shots from downtown and made 6 of them.


Brockport
Justin Summers got his double-double of 26 points and 10 rebounds. I think he had more than 10 boards but he did capture scoring honors for the game and led Brockport in rebounds.

Tyler Collins had 16 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds, a block and a steal.

Jahidi Wallace had 13 points and 7 reounds.

Montgomery Stroman had 12 points off the bench hitting 4 big three pointers in 6 attempts. He also led the team with 4 steals.

Devante Hagins had 5 points and 5 boards in 13 minutes off the bench.

Danny Ashley had 4 points, 3 assists, 3 steals and 2 rebounds.


St Joe's
Jack Casale led the Monks with 18 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

Griffin Foley had 15 points and 2 rebounds.

Nicholas Curtis  had 14 points, 5 assists and 4 rebounds.

Drew Shea had 11 points in 13 minutes off the bench.

Joseph Nuttall won rebounding honors with 12 boards, 7 points, 3 assists and 2 steals.

Brockport State will meet Wooster College in the Championship of the Mauro Panaggio Tournament tomorrow afternoon at 2:00 PM.

St John Fisher lost an 81-80 decision to Wooster College in an earlier game on Sunday. They had a 78-73 lead and the ball with 34 seconds to go and couldn't hang onto the lead.  So those Cardinals (Fisher) will play St Joseph's in the consolation game at 12 noon.
 
Brockport State improves to 6-1 overall (2-0 SUNYAC) It was nice to watch this game and have an announcer, an on screen scoreboard with the time, a decent cameraman and live stats that worked just fine. All the things that York College did not have in their tournament yesterday. Somebody at that school needs to step up and fix things. Why bother to have an online presence if you are going to do it so poorly?   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 08:01:39 PM
Cortland leading Eastern 46-42 with 12:31 to play in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 15, 2019, 08:33:09 PM
Cortland 71 Eastern 62        Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2019, 01:19:23 AM
Cortland State 71    Eastern University 62

Nice win by the Red Dragons to come from 60-56 behind with 4:52 left in the game and only allow the Eagles 2 points the rest of the way. Cortland gets a 3 pointer from Ryan Schmadel to draw within a point and calls a timeout. Eastern misses on their end and Cortland's Austin Grunder gets the rebound. The Red Dragons have a chance to take the lead but this time Schmadel misses from long range. No problem, Grunder grabs his 12th rebound to reset the offense. Just 11 seconds later AJ Lawton drains a threeball and Cortland is in front 62-60. Eastern attempts to match Lawton's shot but again is off the mark. Cortland comes down, Grunder is fouled and he makes 1 of 2, but Schmadel grabs the rebound off the missed free throw and Lawton hits his 2nd bomb in a 60 second span to put the Red Dragons up 66 to 60 with 2:45 to go. The Eagles could never get it back to a 1 possession game after that and Cortland went 5 of 6 from the line to put this one on ice. Cortland ends the game on a 15-2 run.

I had Cortland winning this one by a 77-72 score and wondered how the Red Dragons would do against the height advantage posed by Eastern's big men. I thought they would do well enough to get the W and they sure did.

Cortland's two big guys Austin Grunder and Eric Edwards had 48 points and 22 rebounds between them. Eastern's 2 starting forwards were 6'8", and 6'6" and they brought in 6'8" and 6'4" guys off the bench. Those 4 guys combined to score 38 points and grab 19 rebounds, so Cortland's pair more than held their own.

Eastern shot 50% from the field to 48% for Cortland but the Red Dragons hit the long ball for 44% (11x25) while the Eagles were only 5x16 from distance. Cortland was also better at the line going 12x20 to only 1x5 for Eastern. Cortland won the rebounding war 33 to 26 but had a few more turnpvers than the Eagles 16 to 13.

Cortland
Austin Grunder is in the conversation for SUNYAC Player of the Year. The Red Dragon's new arrival has played in 5 games and has a double-double in every one of them. On Sunday he had 28 points and 15 rebounds, both game highs. He was 10x14 from the field and 3x5 from long distance. He still leads the nation in rebounding with 17.6 rpg. He also moved into  the Top 20 in points with a 24 ppg average. I think he may be high on the list of double-doubles as well, once Cortland plays a few more games. His 5 double-doubles puts him on the first page of the stat leaders where most of those guys have played 8 to 10 games. 

Eric Edwards had 20 points and 7 rebounds. He was 7x16 from the field and also 3x5 from long range.

AJ Lawton had a career high 11 points and was also 3x5 from behind the arc.


Eastern
Victor Pena had 11 points and 5 rebounds.

William Blet had 10 points and 7 rebounds.

Clifton Adams had 10 points and 4 rebounds.


Cortland improves to 3-2 overall (1-1 YAC) and will play in Miami again on Tuesday against Gwynedd Mercy at 6:00 PM. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2019, 01:28:00 AM
Dec. 16                 Just a single game on tap today.

Wooster College vs Brockport St.  2:00 PM    Championship Game   Mauro Panaggio Tournament @ Daytona Beach, FL

This should be a very good game. Wish i was there to see it. Both teams come into this matchup with identical 6-1 records and both are tied for first place in their respective conferences. They have 1 opponent in common...Medaille College and they both defeated the Mavericks by a similar score. Wooster won 110-100 and Port won 96-84. This is the 3rd time these teams have met in the past 14 years with Wooster holding the advantage having won the previous 2 matchups. Wooster will have a slight height advantage in this game as they start a 6'7" forward, a 6'5" forward, a 6'5" guard, a 6'1" guard and a 5'10" guard.

The oddsmakers have made the Scots, currently ranked #26 in the D3hoops Top 25 poll, as a 7 point favorite in this game. They will move into the Top 25 next week if they win this game. They may have already moved into the Top 25 because this week's voting won't include the result of this game, and they won their only game last week. I believe the Golden Eagles have an excellent chance to pull off the mild upset here. They need to keep Justin Summers and Jahidi Wallace out of foul trouble, attack Wooster's big men and get them in foul trouble, especially #0 Dontae Williams and #32 Danyon Hempy. Take good shots, once Port has a lead, and when Wooster turns the ball over, don't give it right back with a lazy or telegraphed pass. And please hit your foul shots...45% is gonna cost you a game. Brockport has 3 players that played the last time these teams met in 2017. Wooster has 2. I'm taking Brockport to win by a 75-73 final score.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2019, 02:55:13 PM
Brockport leads Wooster 45-43 at the half.


Wooster trailing by 7 at 41-34 with 2:45 left in the but half manages to get within 2 points at the break as they drain a 3 pointer at the buzzer.

Brockport doing what I asked as Justin Summers and Jahidi Wallace staying out of foul trouble (1 on each of them) and have Wooster's 2 bigs with 2 fouls each. Port with 6 turnovers to 9 for the Scots. Port shooting 50% in the first period. Wooster has 22 rebounds to 19 for Brockport.

Justin Summers leads Brockport with 16 points,2 rebounds and 2 assists. Jahidi Wallace has 8 points and 2 rebounds.
Davonte Jones has 7 points.


Keonn Scott  leads Wooster with 16 points. Danyon Hempy has 12 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Need to go right at him early and get him on the bench with a 3rd foul.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2019, 04:54:56 PM
Brockport 90  Wooster 94. Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2019, 11:01:30 PM
Brockport 90  #24 Wooster 94

This is one the Golden Eagles let slip away. They were the winners of this game with 4:52 left on the clock as they were up by 8 points at 79-71. Those aren't games you lose. You salt those away by playing solid basketball down the stretch. The Golden Eagles allowed back to back wide open three pointers that cut the lead to 2 and then had a turnover that sent the Scots to the line, where they cut it to a single point. It took Wooster 62 seconds to erase most of that 8 point lead. Two minutes later their big man Danyon Hempy got loose inside and slammed one home that gave them the lead for good at 83-81. Brockport came up empty on their possession and sent Wooster to the line where they hit both free throws to go up by 4 points. Port missed again, Wooster didn't and this one was pretty much over. The Golden Eagles had scored just once in their 8 possessions since they were ahead by 8 points. Brockport tried the foul route but Wooster went 6x8 from the line to close tjhis one out and win their 2nd Mauro Panaggio Tournament in 2 tries. They also won the tournament 2 years ago with a win over the Golden Eagles.

Brockport
Justin Summers had another big game with 24 poings, 6 rebounds and 2 assists.

Jahidi Wallace had 14 points and 4 rebounds.

Tyler Collins  had 13 points, 4 assists and 2 steals.

Davonte Jones had 11 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.

Devante Hagins had 9 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and a block.

Summers and Wallace made the All Tournament Team.


Wooster
Danyon Hempy captured scoring honors with 32 points and was also the top rebounder with 8 boards. He added 4 assists, 4 bolcks and a steal. He was 10x13 from the field, 2x4 from long range and 10x12 from the line. He was also the MVP of the tournament.

Keonn Scott had 26 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal. He was 4x8 from downtown. He also made the All Tournament Team.

Trenton Tipton had 15 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.

Dontae Williams had 10 points and 6 boards.

The stat that hurt the Golden Eagles more than any other was 3 point shooting as they were only 4x22 from long distance. Wooster was 9x19. Port was actually 30x50 on shots inside the arc. Wooster enjoyed their best shooting night of the season as they were 33x60 (55%) from the field. Free throws were almost even as Brockport was 18x24 and Woster was 19x26. Wooster had 36 rebounds to 38 for Port. Turnovers ended up fairly close....15 for Brockport and 16 for Wooster.

Brockport falls to 6-2 overall (2-0 YAC) and will be off until January 3rd when they host Alfred at 5:00 PM.

Wooster is now 7-1 (3-0) and will make the Top 25 if not tonight then probably next week. They are back in action on December 28th when they host Keene State in the E.M. "Mose" Hole/Wooster Kiwanis Classic/Great Lakes Invitational.

Update:  Wooster did make the D3hoops Top 25  this week as it was posted a short while ago. They check in at #24.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 17, 2019, 07:40:36 AM
Just got back last night from the Mauro Panaggio Memorial Tournament in Daytona and watched 4 great D3 games. The largest margin of victory of the 4 games was 10 points. Two games were decided on the final possession and one in the final minute. As Magic said, my Eagles were on the cusp of blowing St Joe's the first day, but the Monks were a fiesty 3-point shooting squad going 15-31. The Eagles were too athletic and brought great intensity to win by 10. The Wooster game was another great effort leading 78-71 with about 5 minutes, but came up empty on many possessions down the stretch. Again Bport's athleticism allows them to play with any team, but when it comes down to half court possession basketball they need to execute more efficiently. They are a fun team to watch and have a lot of pieces to the puzzle. They are a great group of kids with a coaching staff dedicated to getting the most out of their talent. I really enjoyed watching them play live and wish them all safe travels home and a happy holiday season!!! Go Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2019, 11:40:17 AM
Cortland's Austin Grunder was selected for the 2nd straight time as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the Games of Dec. 9-Dec. 15, 2019. Austin was also chosen as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the week ending 12-8.

Here's the write-up from the SUNYAC website:


"The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has picked Cortland's Austin Grunder (Trumansburg, N.Y.) as its PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week for the second-straight week.

Grunder led Cortland with 28 points and 15 rebounds in a 71-62 win over Eastern University Sunday evening to open the HoopMIA D3 Holiday Classic in Miami Shores, Fla. He finished 10-for-14 from the field, including 3-of-5 from 3-point range, and added two assists while playing the entire 40 minutes. Grunder scored 23 of his 28 points in the opening half. He's registered a double-double in each of his first five games, with each of his games consisting of at least 17 points and 15 rebounds."


Congratulations again to Austin who continues to excel on the court.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2019, 11:44:45 AM
Dec. 17                              Just one game scheduled for today.

   
Cortland State  vs  Gwynedd Mercy        6:00 PM   @ Miami, Florida     HoopMIA D3 Holiday Classic

Cortland looks to go 2-0 on their Florida trip as they take on the Griffins of Gwynedd Mercy. The Griffins are 7-2 and recently played in the same tournament that Potsdam State was in at York (NY). I thought Potsdam would end up playing GM in the championship game of that tournament but the Griffins lost to SUNY-Purchase 80-73 and the Bears played Purchase instead. The Griffins defeated Plattsburgh State in the first round of the NCAA tournament last year by a 73-65 score. They return 3 of the 4 players that scored double figures in that game so this will be a tough matchup for Cortland.

Cortland getting much of their offense from 2 players...Austin Grunder and Eric Edwards as they account for 55% of the team's scoring. Will need other sources if either of those two get in foul trouble. The Griffins did a good job shutting down Jon Patron last year in the NCAA game and will look to do the same to Grunder who is off to a great start.

The experts have made Gwynedd Mercy a slim 1 point favorite in this game, which means it's a pick 'em. I'm taking the Red Dragons, and hope they can avenge my Cardinals. Final score Cortland 74  Gwynedd Mercy 72.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2019, 07:02:55 PM
Cortland 36 Gywnedd Mercy 30 at the half.

The Griffins not letting Austin Grunder get many touches and the Red Dragons are hoisting up an awful lot of threes which limit Grunder's touches even more. He took 1 shot the entire first half. Not sure I want my leading scorer just getting 1 shot in the opening 20 minutes. Cortland 11 for 32 from the field...22 of those shots were from downtown and they made just 5. They were 6 for 10 inside the arc. Cortland perfect from the line 9 for 9. The Griffins are 8 for10. Red Dragons led by double digits on several occasions but couldn't keep that margin either time.

Cortland led by Eric Edwards with 13 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. Ben Walters with 10 points, and Ryan Schmadel with 5. Grunder has just 2 points but 5 boards. He needs to have a big 2nd half.

Rich Dunham with 14 points to lead the Griffins. Austin Harriott and Nathaniel Walker both with 6 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 17, 2019, 07:56:52 PM
Cortland defeats Gwynedd Mercy 69-60
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 18, 2019, 02:35:23 AM
Cortland 69  Gwynedd Mercy 60

Cortland led from start to finish in this game but could never quite put the Griffins away. They jumped out to a 14-4 lead and led the entire half. The lead was never less than 4 points and by as many as 11. The Griffins hit a 3 pointer with seconds to go in the first half to cut the lead from 9 to 6 and go into the break down 36-30. 

Gwynedd Mercy came out in the 2nd determined to cut into the Cortland advantage and hit their first two shots to make it a 36-34 game. Back came Cortland, or I should say Ben Walters. After an exchange of baskets Cortland was in front 38-36 when Walters made a layup, then got a steal. Cortland missed on their end but so did the Griffins and this time Walters buried a three. The Griffins came down and hit a jumper and seconds later Walters buried another threeball. The lead was back to 8 points and Cortland once more had some breathing room. The Griffins cut it to 4 points once more but this time Cortland used a 12-2 run and built it back to 14 points with 6 minutes to play. It was all downhill from there and the Red Dragons coasted home.

I mentioned earlier that Cortland needed scoring from other sources in case the Griffins tried to bottle up Austin Grunder. They held Grunder to only 4 points, the first time any team has prevented him from getting a double-double but the Red Dragons got the offensive firepower they needed from Eric Edwards, Ben Walters and Ryan Schmadel.

The Red Dragons in keeping with past history, do like to shoot it from long distance as they fired up 40 shots from behind the arc. However, tonight they only made 10 of those with Walters going 4 x10  and Schmadel hitting 3 of 10.  Jake DiSanto was 2x5 for his 6 points in 8 minutes on the floor. Many times 10x40 from the 3 point line doesn't bode well but the Griffins were even worse, only going 3x21 from distance. Cortland was 22x62 (35.5%) from the field but an almost perfect 15x16 (93.8%) from the line. Gwynedd Mercy was 19x58 (32.8%) from the field and 19x28 (67.9%) from the line.
Cortland had 17 turnovers to just 10 for the Griffins. The Red Dragons made some terrible passes that weren't just stolen, they were picked off allowing the Griffins to score easily, because of where the turnovers took place. The Griffins got 17 points off Cortland turnovers. Grunder and Edwards helped Cortland win the rebounding battle 47 to 36.


Cortland
Eric Edwards had 25 points and 10 boards to get his double-double. He added 2 steals, an assist and a block.

Ben Walters had 18 points, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.

Ryan Schmadel had 11 points, 3 reounds and 2 assists in 18 minutes off the bench.

Austin Gunder only had 4 points  but he owned the boards as usual with a game high 15 rebounds.


Gwynedd Mercy
Rich Dunham was the leading scorer in the game with 26 points, 3 rebounds and 2 steals.

Austin Harriott had 11 points, 7 rebounds and 2 steals.

Nathaniel Walker had 8 points, 6 steals, 2 rebounds and 1 assist.


Cortland improves to 4-2 (1-1 conference) and will be back in action at the Woodcliff Hotel and Spa Tournament hosted by St. John Fisher on December 29th and 30th. The Red Dragons will play Pitt-Bradford on Sunday the 29th at 6:00 PM. Fisher will play SUNY Poly at 8:00 PM. The two winners will play on Monday at 3:00 PM. The 2 losers play at 1:00 PM.

Just a note regarding St John Fisher...They played in Daytona Florida at the  Mauro Pannagio Tournament hosted by Brockport State. They lost to Wooster the first day 81-80 and lost to St. Joseph's (Maine) the 2nd day in the consolation game by a 66-64 score.  Brockport had a win over St. Joe's and a loss to Wooster in that tournament.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 19, 2019, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 19, 2019, 02:33:41 PM
Fisher will play SUNY Poly at 8:00 PM. The two winners will play on Monday at 3:00 PM. The 2 losers play at 1:00 PM.

Just a note regarding St John Fisher...They played in Daytona Florida at the  Mauro Pannagio Tournament hosted by Brockport State. They lost to Wooster the first day 81-80 and lost to St. Joseph's (Maine) the 2nd day in the consolation game by a 66-64 score.  Brockport had a win over St. Joe's and a loss to Wooster in that tournament.     


  Wow.... Must be nice to do 2 tournaments in Florida!


Mr. Rule,
In quoting part of my post I think you must have misread my message. :D St. John Fisher is hosting the Woodcliff Hotel and Spa Tournament....it's at Fisher's gym in Pittsford NY, not Florida. So yes it must be nice to do 2 tournaments in Florida...but Fisher won't know what that is like!!!  ;D   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2019, 12:00:49 PM
Dec. 21                          Just a single game on the schedule for today
   

Randolph  vs  New Paltz State     12:00 PM    Cruzin Classic @ Fort Lauderdale, FL

The Hawks take on a team from the Old Dominion Athletic Conference. Always a tough game even from bottom of the conference teams, which is where Randolph is. They are 4-6 on the year and 1-2 in the ODAC. 3 of those 4 wins have come against 3 teams who have a combined 5-25 record. The teams are meeting for the first time. The oddsmakers have made the Wildcats a 6 point favorite but I'm not convinced they are better than the Hawks, even though the ODAC is almost always rated stonger then the SUNYAC. Last year a young Buffalo State team played two ODAC teams over the holidays, that were similar to this Randolph team and lost both games but they were close ones. Randolph hasn't had a winning record in over 3 years.   

New Platz is coming off a win and looking to start a streak. I'll take the Hawks to score a mild upset here and win by a final score of 77-75.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2019, 12:54:41 PM
Thought I'd watch the New Paltz-Randolph game at noon today. Went to the New Paltz website and they have a link to watch the game and a live stats link as well. Clicked on the watch link and up pops a a screen that says you need to register and it's free. After I registered I went back to the game screen and clicked on the correct game and then I was directed to a page to give them my credit card because it was $8.95 to watch the game......with no commentrary. :P So I said, screw that, I'll watch something else. I then tried to pull up the live stats from the live stats link that was provided. Up pops another screen that says....sorry live stats are unavailable for this game. >:( Usually when there is no live stats there is no link provided to get them. I even double checked by going to the Randolph website hoping I might find something different but it was the same info. Pay 8.95 and no live stats. D3hoops had a live stats link off their scoreboard for today from Presto Sports but when you click on that, up pops the live stats page showing the correct two teams, but a message saying the game hasn't started yet. That, of course, is because there are no live stats coming from the game site, and that message will be displayed for quite a while. 

This isn't the fault of New Paltz....it's Stretch Internet and the Cruzin Classic that are doing this. Pretty cheap of them to do so for the fans of the teams that can't go to Florida for the game. No other holiday tournament that I've watched in Florida over the past week, and I've watched a bunch of them, has charged for the video. Also every one has had video and live stats both.

I'll just wait for the box score on this one...hope they provide one and don't tell me that's unavailable.... and hopefully without a charge for that as well. ::)   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 21, 2019, 05:05:19 PM
New Paltz lost 86-73, box score available on their website
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2019, 03:38:09 AM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on December 21, 2019, 05:05:19 PM
New Paltz lost 86-73, box score available on their website

Yes I got it around 3 PM Saturday afternoon. When I saw the score with no box on D3hoops scoreboard I knew that it wasn't reported to D3hoops so I went to the New Paltz website and they had it fairly early after the game was over. But thanks for the help, always appreciated. Plus K.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2019, 04:22:56 AM
Randolph 86  New Paltz 73

I was hoping the Hawks could win one for the YAC but a rough stretch near the end of the first half did them in. The Hawks were up 24-22 with 6:32 left in the period, when they went cold and Randolph had a 14-2 run to open up a 36-26 lead. It happened over a 4 minute period when the Hawks went 1x7 from the field, had 2 turnovers, missed 2 free throws and committed 4 fouls. They ended up trailing by 12 at the break 46-34.

Needing to cut into that lead the Hawks did, briefly, and got it down 8 points when Scott Riesert hit 2 quick buckets inside. The Wildcats wouldn't bend, though and each time the Hawks got it into single digits they responded to build the lead back up. The Hawks were down 9 at 59-50 with 11 minutes to go when Randolph ripped off another big run of 17-3 to put the lights out for the Hawks. The score was now 76-53 and there was 5:47 left to play.

Isaiah Bien-Aise was the top scorer for the Hawks with 13 points and 8 rebounds.

Tristan Wissemann had 12 points and 8 rebounds.

The Hawks fall to 3-5 (0-2 YAC) and are back in action tomorrow against the Wartburg Knights. Once again the game is at 12 Noon and will probably have a charge to watch the game with no announcer and no live stats.  :(
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 22, 2019, 12:47:16 PM
Dec. 22                     Just one game on the schedule today

   
Wartburg  vs  New Paltz        12:00 PM           Cruzin Classic @ Fort Lauderdale, FL

Forgot about this as I was Christmas shopping. The Hawks face a team that is probably as tough or tougher than the team they played yesterday. Wartburg is from the American Rivers Conference which is also the conference that Nebraska Wesleyan, National Champions from 2 years ago, is a member of. It used to be called the Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. Whatever it's called the team today, Wartburg, will probably hand the Hawks another loss.

The experts have Wartburg favored by 13 points. It could be worse than that. Final score should be something like Wartburg 88 New Paltz 72.   Hope I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 22, 2019, 02:37:08 PM
New Paltz defeats Wartburg 57-56. Jake Passaretti Jump shot with 1:02 left provided the deciding margin. Hawks missed four free throws in the final 1:02, but stymied Wartburg to hang on for the victory.  Tristan Wissemann led the Hawks with 16 pts 8 rebs. Tough shooting night for both teams, as they were both around 30%. NP now 4-5, Wartburg drops to 4-8 on the season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 25, 2019, 06:42:14 AM
Merry Christmas to my friends and all the D3 faithful that are regular visitors to this board. Hope the weather is good where you are, you got what you wanted for Christmas, and you're enjoying the holiday with family and friends. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2019, 06:01:14 AM
Dec. 28                             Just a single game on tap today

N.C. Wesleyan  vs  Oneonta State     2:00 PM   Brooklyn, NY         Holiday Tournament @ at Medgar Evers

Oneonta travels to the Big Apple to play in the first game of the Medgar Evers Holiday Tournament and they will take on a decent North Carolina Wesleyan team. The Battling Bishops play in the USA South conference. This is the conference where the former coach of Plattsburgh State, Tom Curle has relocated to. Coach Curle is the AD at William Peace College.

This isn't the first time Oneonta has played against teams from the USA South conference. In the 2013-14 season the Red Dragons played Averett and Greensboro on a trip to the south over the New Year's holiday and ended up splitting those games, beating Averett and losing to Greensboro.

Last year North Carolina Wesleyan was the top team in their conference during the regular season. They lost in the conference tournament and did not get an at large bid to the NCAA tournament as the conference is comprised of mostly small schools and usually the conference tournament winner is the only team that goes dancing. NC Wesleyan had a solid team last year and actually beat Guilford from the ODAC conference, 70-65. Guilford made it to the Elite Eight last year, losing to eventual NCAA Championn UW-Oshkosh by an 82-79 score, the closest game that Oshkosh had on their way to the championship. NC-Wesleyan also beat Babson last year by double digits. They were 19-7 overall and brought back 3 of their top scorers this year. Their best player has only played in 2 games, the first game of the year and the game right before Christmas break. He scored 18 and 24 points in those games.

The Battling Bishops come into the game with just a 4-4 record but 3 of those 4 losses were without their best player and all four losses were to good teams. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a slim 3 point favorite in this one. If they win this game the Red Dragons will need a solid effort because NC Wesleyan is deep, tall, and they have a bunch of scorers. I'll take Oneonta to win a close one 78-75 but won't be surprised if NC Wesleyan gets the win.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Oneonta State trails North Carolina Wesleyan 41-35 at the half.

The Red Dragons were down by 14 points at 28-14 after the Battling Bishops put together a 14-3 run midway through the period. Oneonta came back to close within 3 points with 6 seconds remaining but NCW got a 3 pointer at the buzzer to make it a 6 point game at the break.

Oneonta is led by Andres Rivera with 10 points and 5 rebounds. Kevin Mackin has 9 points and 2 assists.


NC Wesleyan got 13 points from A.J. Frye. Cameron Martin and Damon McDowell have 7 each.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 28, 2019, 04:47:33 PM
Oneonta 82 North Carolina Wesleyan 77  final score.

The Red Dragons come back from a double digit deficit in the 2nd half that was almost as big as they trailed in the first half. In the first period Oneonta was losing 28-14 and got within 3 points at 38-35.  In the 2nd period they trailed 58-45 before coming all the way back and grabbing the win.   

Live stats stopped working with 10 minutes remaining in the game so have to wait for the box score to give the summary.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2019, 05:20:52 AM
Oneonta 82 North Carolina Wesleyan 77

Nice game from the Red Dragons against a quality opponent. I almost picked North Carolina Wesleyan to win this game based on who they've played, how good they were last year and who they had returning, but I never want to be right and pick a YAC team to lose. I also knew that if the Red Dragons could beat Williams, then they could beat this team. I was beginning to think I was wrong though, halfway through the first period. 

NCW was looking to put Oneonta away in the first half when they broke open a close game with a 21-5 run midway through the period. The Battling Bishops were down 9-7 with 13:25 remaining in the first half. Five minutes and 37 seconds later they were up 28-14 with 7:48 to play in the first half. Oneonta's Kevin Mackin started hitting some threes, Andres Rivera slammed a couple of dunks home, Dylan Trombley nailed another threeball, and the Red Dragons outscored NCW 21 to 13 to end the period and cut the deficit to just 6 points at the half.

The early part of the 2nd stanza was a back and forth that kept Oneonta trailing the Bishops by 5 to 8 points. They got as close as 3 points at 48 to 45 with 15 minutes to play but Wesleyan then opened up some daylight once again with a 10-0 run to put the Bishops ahead by 13 points at 58-45. And once again it was a 3 pointer by Mackin that started the Red Dragon comeback. Slowly over the next 6 minutes Oneonta cut into the lead and trailed by just 3 points at 66-63, after another three from Mackin, his 6th one of the game and a pair of Dylan Trombley free throws. The Bishops missed twice on their end and Oneonta finally caught them at 66, when Trombley nailed one from long distance. Wesleyan took a timeout to regroup, missed again on their possession, but Oneonta missed 4 shots in a row, after 3 straight offensive rebounds, and failed to grab the lead. Finally after another empty possession by Wesleyan, Sean Nolan was fouled and made 1 of 2 to give the Red Dragoons the lead for the first time since early in the game when they were ahead 9-7. Over the next few minutes the teams would trade baskets and the score would be tied twice but Oneonta never trailed again. They went up by 2 possessions with 1:07 left on a jumper by Mackin. After Wesleyan scored to cut the margin to two points a key play was on the inbounds pass by Oneonta. Wesleyan was trying to keep the ball away from Mackin so they could foul someone else but Coach Conover had a great play that freed up Rivera who broke for the basket and was wide open for a long pass and a dunk. The Red Dragons hit some free throws to get to the final score.  It was fairly close to my 78-75 prediction and with 42 seconds to go it was 77-72, so I had a chance at perfection. And that's always fun.

Oneonta
Kevin Mackin was the Red Dragons leading scorer with 23 points, 4 assists and 3 rebounds. He was 6 of 14 from long distance.
Andres Rivera had 16 points, 6 rebounds and 2 steals. And 3 nice dunks that I saw.
Dylan Trombley had 14 points and 3 rebounds in 20 minutes off the bench. He was 3 for 6 from downtown.
Harrison Deegan had 13 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists.
Joseph Bull had 7 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.
Carson Jacobs was the games leading rebounder with 11 boards in 16 minutes of court time off the bench.
Sean Nolan had 9 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals in 25 minutes off the bench.

North Carolina Wesleyan
Damon McDowell was the game's high scorer with 25 points, 5 rebounds and 4 steals.
Aj Frye had 22 points and 4 rebounds.
Cameron Martin had 10 points, 2 rebounds and 2 assusts.

The Red Dragons were outshot by NCW 44.9% to 38.9% from the field. Both teams made 11 three pointers and Oneonta was the winner from the line making 15x27 to just 4x10 for NCW. Oneonta had 48 rebounds to 41 for NCW and also had less turnovers with 14 to 18 for the Bishops.


Oneonta improves to 4-3 overall (2-0 YAC) and will play Medgar Evers on Sunday afternoon at 3:00 PM for the Championship of the Dr. Carol V De Costa Tournament at Medgar Evers. The host school defeated D'Youville 119-113 in overtime.                  
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2019, 07:11:10 AM
Dec. 29          Two games on tap today both in holiday tournaments.
   

Oneonta State  @  Medgar Evers  3:00 PM   Championship of the Dr. Carol V De Costa Tournament at Medga Evers

The Red Dragons just played the toughest team in this tournament, I believe, and now get to take on the host team. The Cougars from Medgar Evers are just 3-7 on the year but come into this contest on a 2 game winning streak. They also have their leading scorer back (29.8 ppg and 11.3 rpg) who has missed 6 of their 10 games. Another one of their top players  (11.2 ppg 12.8 rpg) has missed 4 games so it's hard to tell how good they may be with everybody healthy.

I remember a few years ago in 2011-12 when Oswego State, the year they were 18-0 in the YAC and went 26-4 overall, ventured down to Brooklyn, NY to play Medgar Evers in Cougars Cave. That was the Oswego State team with Laker greats Chad Burridge and Hayden Ward to name a few. Their only losses that year were an opening season loss at St Lawrence 66-62, a loss to Division I Texas Pan-American (who they almost beat) but ultimately fell 59-54 and a 2nd round game in the NCAA tournament, which was a loss to Eastern Connecticut in double overtime, 70-69. Their worst Division III loss of the year....you guessed it Medgar Evers... a team that was 8-6 at the time. The Cougars beat the Lakers 73-68. So you never know what you might be up against when you venture into the city.

Having said that, the Cougars just beat a team in overtime, D'Youville, that Fredonia also beat in overtime earlier this year. They also beat Staten Island who is no longer in Division III but has moved up to Diviision II. Yet they lost to a Hunter College team that is 1-8 and they lost to Hunter by 25 points. So your guess is as good as mine, as to which Cougar team takes the floor later today.

The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a 22 point favorite in this game. I think the Red Dragons should be able to handle this team without too much trouble. They lost to Massachustetts College and Williams beat that school by 30 points. And Oneonta beat Williams so I'll take Oneonta to win this one by a 97-70 final score.       




Cortland State  vs  Pitt-Bradford        6:00 PM       St. John Fisher Tournament @ Rochester, N.Y.

These Red Dragons are also playing a team that hasn't had much success this season. The Pitt-Bradford Panthers are 1-7 coming into this game and have lost 5 of those games by double digits. Their lone win is a victory over Fredonia State that this prestidigitator had forecast as a Blue Devil triumph. (still don't see how Fredonia could lose to these guys)

Cortland is coming off a successful trip to Florida where it went 2-0 in Miami. Cortland will play the winner of the St. John Fisher/SUNY Poly game if they defeat Pitt-Bradford.

I can't see Cortland having a problem winning this game and suspect Austin Grunder along with Eric Edwards will have big games. So do the oddsmakers as they have made the Red Dragons a huge 35 point favorite. They have given the Panthers a 1% chance of winning this game. I'm not sure that Cortland wins by 35 though as Coach Spanbauer will get everyone into the game. I think the final score will be something like Cortland 92 Pitt-Bradford 67. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 29, 2019, 04:30:28 PM
Oneonta leads Medgar Evers 49-41 at the half.

No live stats and lousy stream so will have to wait for a box score to see stats.

Red Dragons were down early 18-10 but came back to take the lead and led by 3 to 7 points for the last 8 minutes of the period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 29, 2019, 07:28:21 PM
Oneonta defeats Medgar Evers 108-83 in the championship of their tournament.  Evers broke out to an early lead by 8 with 13:36 left in the first half, Dragons clawed back to lead 49-41 at Half, then extended their lead to 31 with 5:41 before left in the 2nd Half. Harrison Deegan and Dylan Trombley led 5 Dragons in double figures with 16 points each. Top 8 players for the Dragons played all but 26 minutes so much for emptying the bench with a big lead. Joseph Bull had 14 rebounds and Deegan had 9 assists. Dragons now 5-3, Evers cougars drop to 3-8.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2019, 05:53:37 AM
Oneonta 108 Medgar Evers 83

Just a few more stats to add to the bear's report.

Oneonta's Red Dragons won their game much the same way as Cortland did. They allowed the host team to grab an early lead and then caught fire to catch them and open up some daylight before the half. Down 18-10 after 6 and a half minutes of play, Oneonta used a 19-4 run over the next 6 minutes to go in front 29-22 with 6:21 remaining in the period.
They maintained that lead through the end of the half.

It didn't take them long to put the game away as they opened the 2nd half with another quick start and scored 12 straight points to open up a 20 point lead, 61-41, just 3 minutes into the period. The lead fluctuated between 14 and 24 points over the next 10 minutes and grew to as much as 31 points at 96-65.

Oneonta
Harrison Deegan just missed a triple double as he led the team with 16 points, 10 rebounds and 9 assists. He added a pair of blocks as well.
Dylan Trombley also scored 16 points and just missed a double-double with 9 rebounds. He added 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.
Joseph Bull had a double-dpuble with 13 points and a game high 14 rebounds. He also had 4 assists and a steal.
Andres Rivera had 14 points,4 rebounds 2 steals and a block.
Sean Nolan had 12 points, 5 assists and 2 rebounds.
Kevin Mackin had 9 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists 1 steal and a block.
Frankie Williams had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal in 16 minutes off the bench.
Ian Schultz scored 8 points, had 4 rebounds, an assist, a steal and a block in just 15 minutes of court time.
Freshman Jack Tucek scored his first points as a Red Dragon with 6 points and a rebound in 5 minutes off the bench.
Freshman Mason Flately also got his first points in an Oneonta uniform with 2 points, a rebound and 1 assist.

Oneonta outshot the Cougars 47% to 37% from the field and had 13 three pointers (38%) to just 5 for Medgar Evers (20%).
They outrebounded the Cougars 61 to 47 and had 12 turnovers to 13 for the Cougars.
Oneonta really passed the ball well in this game, constantly looking for the open shooter or the inside cutter as evidenced by their 29 assists and 13 made three pointers.

Medgar Evers
The Cougars were led by their top player, Jon Grimsley, who had 20 points to capture scoring honors for the game. He also had a team high 8 rebounds and 3 assists.
Jafet Thomas had 16 points and 7 rebounds.
Marcus Lewis had 10 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists.

The Cougars were probably as healthy as they have been all year with all of the best players seeing action in the game against Oneonta, which make the win all the more rewarding.


I had Oneonta winning this game by 27 points 97-70. Both teams scored a few more than my prediction, but again my margin of victory was almost perfect.

Oneonta improves to 5-3 overall (2-0 YAC) and is off until Tuesday January 7th when they travel to LaPlume, Pennslyvania to take on Keystone College at 7:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2019, 05:56:38 AM
Cortland 98     Pitt-Bradford 73

As expected the Red Dragons won this one by a wide margin.  I had them winning by 25 points... 92-67. I was fairly close with my prediction and the margin of victory was exactly 25 points.

Pitt-Bradford didn't go quietly into the night, however, and managed to lead this contest for most of the first half. The Panthers even had an 8 point advantage midway through the first period and weren't playing like a 1-7 team. Cortland eventually took over the game and after trailing 22-14 at the halfway point of the stanza went on a 14-5 tear to give them a 28-27 lead. Jake DiSanto hit a three pointer, Austin Grunder had a hoop and harm, Brendan Fitzpatrick buried a three and after Grunder scored on a layup, Ryan Schmadel hit another three. There was 5:42 left in the period, the Red Dragons were heating up and there was enough time to establish a double digit lead by the break. Grunder scored 7 straight points, Schmadel then scored 5 straight with another long bomb followed by a layup. A.J. Lawton ended the half with yet another threeball and Cortland went into the break up 43-33.

Cortland started the 2nd half much like they ended the first half and 5 minutes into the period had doubled their lead to 21 points. It would reach 30 points at 77-47 with 10 minutes to play and the Red Dragons eased to the finish line.

Cortland was missing big man Eric Edwards in this game and obviously he wasn't needed but hope he will be back soon.

Cortland
Austin Grunder had another double-double that gave him scoring and rebounding honors with 26 points and 12 rebounds.
Ben Walters had 23 points with 3 rebounds. He was 4x8 from long range.
Ryan Schmadel had 14 points and 4 rebounds. He was 4x10 from behind the arc.
Brendan Fitzpatrick  had 6 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists.


Pitt-Bradford
Alex Rodriguez led the Panthers with 15 points on 5x10 shooting.
Dylan Meyer had 12 points going 6x7 from the field.
Justin Kusiappouh had 9 points and a team leading 7 rebounds.

Cortland improves to 5-2 overall (1-1 YAC) and will play host St. John Fisher tomorrow for the Championship of the Woodcliff Hotel and Spa Tournament. Fisher defeated SUNY Poly Sunday evening by an 82-68 final score. The game will tip off at 3:00 PM.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2019, 07:51:36 AM
Dec. 30     A single game scheduled for today and it should be a good one.   

Cortland State  at  St. John Fisher  3:00 PM     Championship of the St. John Fisher Tournament @ Rochester, N.Y.

Lots of red today as the Red Dragons and the Redbirds get it on in the championship game of St. John Fisher's annual Woodcliff Hotel and Spa Hoilday Tournament.

The last time Fisher beat Cortland was 13 years and 1 day ago on December 29th, 2006. The score was 82-76 and Cortland was having their worst season in the last 15 years (finished 10-16 overall, 6-10 YAC). Fisher's record then was 24-6. They went dancing that year and made the Sweet 16 winning those first two games in the comfort of their home court. They defeated my Plattsburgh Cardinals in that 2nd game 95-87 but the YAC got a measure of revenge when Brockport beat them the following week to make the Elite Eight. That one was also at Fisher's place.

Cortland got their revenge for that 2006 loss as Fisher has never beaten the Red Dragons since that day. They have played each other for the last 3 seasons and Cortland won last year...80-78, 2 years ago...70-69 and 3 years ago...79-69.
The Red Dragons will have their work cut out for them tonight. Two of those three wins have come on Fisher's court so that's the good news. The bad news is it looks like Cortkand will be without one of their main weapons... big man Eric Edwards who did not play last night in the win over Pitt-Bradford. He wasn't missed against those Panthers but will be tonight against the Cardinals.

Fisher returns 4 of the players that started last year's game against Cortland as well as others in last season's rotation. They were ranked in the D3hoops preseason poll because of what they had coming back, but haven't lived up to that ranking as they enter the game with just a 5-5 record. They dropped their opening game of the season to Union (4-3) and then beat a couple of teams from weaker conferences before losing a close game to Rochester (78-75). They followed that with wins over RIT (80-70) and Buffalo State (89-83) and then lost 3 in a row to a good Hobart team (66-59) a better Wooster team (81-80) and a so-so St Joe's (Maine) team (66-64). Their win last night against SUNY Poly is a game they should win by double figures and they did so 82-68. The point I'm trying to make here is that Fisher has been wildly inconsistent over their first 10 games. Not quite sure what piece of candy you're going to get tonight.

The 1 point loss to Wooster was probably their best game of the season. It was at the Panaggio Tournament, that Brockport hosted in Florida. Wooster went on to beat Brockport the next day in another nailbiter that went right down to the final shot. Yesterday Wooster, currently ranked #24 in the D3hoops Top 25, beat the #14 ranked team, Whitworth. So hanging with Wooster should give one a perspective of the talent that the Cardinals have on their roster.

Cortland starting a nice little winning streak, with 2 solid wins in Florida over the holidays, before last night's win over   Pitt-Bradford. I think they will need all hands on deck to get the W here, though.

The man who sets the point spread isn't even aware of the fact that Eric Edwards will most likely miss this game and already has the Red Dragons listed as a 4 point underdog. I'm not sure Cortland would win this game even with Edwards, but I can't see them doing so without him. But I'm a homer and and want to root like hell for Cortland today so I'll take the Red Dragons to pull off the mild upset, here and win a tight one 75-73.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on December 30, 2019, 11:27:29 AM
Looks like my boys at Oneonta have their Swagger Back.

A lot of teams in the running for the Chip.
Conference play will be as wild as ever in the SUNYAC.
This will separate the Men from the Boys.
Looking forward to seeing which teams will come up BIG.


Wanted to wish all my Guys a Happy Healthy Prosperous New Year.

Enjoy  ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 30, 2019, 02:36:30 PM
A Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year to all the SUNY teams and all the YAC posters!!!! Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2019, 03:52:48 PM
Cortland leads St. John Fisher 52-42 at the half.

Fisher jumped out to an early 5 point lead and stayed in front for the first 7 minutes until Cortland finally caught them at 16-16 on a three pointer by Austin Grunder with 12:24 left in the period. The Cardinals went back in front by 8 points at 31-23 but 8 straight points by the Red Dragons' Jake Disanto followed by a 3 from Ryan Schmadel and another one from Brendan Fitzpatrick gave the Red Dragons their first lead at 37-36.  Cortland then jumped in front by double figures as they ended the final 6 mintues of the half on a 15-6 run.

Austin Grunder leads Cortland with 15 points and 3 rebounds. Jake DiSanto has 11 points and Ryan Schmadel has 9.

Sammy Robinson leads the Cardinals with 12 points and Mark Valeriani has 9.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2019, 04:23:19 PM
Cortland 102       St. John Fisher 78

Details to follow
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2019, 06:58:28 PM
Cortland State 102       St. John Fisher 78

Nice win by the Red Dragons and by a margin of victory I wouldn't have guessed if I had 10 guesses. I had Cortland winning  this game 75-73. I was close on the Fisher score but for the Red Dragons to hit the century mark and more, without their 2nd leading scorer and rebounder, Eric Edwards, against one of their tougher opponents was surprising.
It marked the 2nd straight year Cortland has won the St John Fisher tournament.

Not sure why Fisher played a zone but the 3 point shooters from Cortland were loving it, as they made a season high 16 shots from downtown, at a season best 59.3% (16x27).  Brendan Fitzpatrick (4x5), Ryan Schmadel  (4x7), Ben Walters (4x8) and Jake DiSanto (3x3) led the way with the long range bombing. Fisher went 10x27 from deep and that accounts for 18 of the 26 points they lost by. Cortland was 12x15 (80%) from the line to 4x6 from Fisher and there's the rest of the MOV. The Red Dragons shot 37x59 from the field, another season high of 62.7%. Fisher had one of their best shooting night of the season hitting 32 of 62 shots  for 51.6% but the red hot Dragons made it a wasted effort.

After catching the Cardinals from an 8 point first half deficit and zipping by them to take a 10 point halftime lead, Cortland maintained their advantage from the first period and stretched it to 15 points at 63-48 after 4 minutes of play in the 2nd stanza. Fisher made a slight move to get back into the game, when 2 back to back threes from Sean Williams cut the deficit to single digits at 70-61 with 11:49 to play. The Red Dragons didn't waste any time to apply the finishing touches. A 10-4 burst built the lead back to 15 at 80-65 and Cortland slowly built the lead to the final 26 point margin.


Austin Grunder continues his stellar play and would probably get a Player of the Week award for his back to back games of yesterday and today except they occur in two different weeks if the SUNYAC uses the same accounting method over the holidays as they've been using which is a Monday through Sunday week. He could still win it for this coming week with a good outing on Friday January 4th against Cabrini. I'm thinking Harrison Deegan from Oneonta State may get the award this week for his MVP award at the Medar Evers tournament that those Red Dragons won over the weekend.

Cortland
Austin Grunder was the game's high scorer and rebounder as he had another double-double. He tossed in 25 points and grabbed 10 boards. He added 2 blocks and 1 assist.

Ben Walters had 20 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists. He was 4x8 from downtown and 4x4 from the line.

Endher Gonzalez had 14 points and 8 rebounds, both career highs in a Cortland uniform, I believe.

Brendan Fitzpatrick also had 14 points and only took 5 shots, all from downtown and made 4 of them. He had a game high 7 assists and added 5 rebounds and a block.

Jake DiSanto came off the bench to score 13 points with 2 rebounds and 1 assists in just 11 minutes of court time. Jake was 5x6 from the field, and 3x3 from long distance.

Ryan Schmadel had 12 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal. He was 4-7 from the field which were all shots from behind the arc.

Cortland outshot the host team and won the battle of the boards 33-21, not a lot of rebounds available when you shoot as well as these teams did today. Fisher did win the turnover stat...barely...10-9.

St. John Fisher
Sean Williams led the Cardinals with 18 points 6 assists and 3 rebounds.

Sammy Robinson had 15 points, 2 blocks and was 3x5 from long distance.

Matt Asenjo had 13 points,  a team high 5 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists.

Cortland improves to 6-2 (1-1 YAC) and will be back in action when they host the Cabrini University Cavaliers from the Atlantic East Conference on Saturday January 4th at 2:00 PM.

St. John Fisher falls to 5-6 (0-0 E8) overall and heads into Empire 8 conference play with some problems to solve, as they look to get back on track after 4 losses in their last 5 games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 30, 2019, 07:10:42 PM
Nice to see both Red Dragon teams bring home some hardware over the weekend and today.

Both teams appear to be rounding into conference form as Oneonta has now won 4 in a row and is on a collision course for a big game against their Dragon cousins when they invade Cortland in two weeks on January 14th.

Cortland has is also on a 4 game winning streak. They have found some additional scoring options and have covered the loss of one of their primary players quite nicely so far. Hope they aren't without his services much longer.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2020, 05:09:23 PM
Jan. 3        Just a single game on the schedule today    

Alfred  at  Brockport State        5:00 PM

The Golden Eagles take on the Alfred Saxons for just the 2nd time in the last 40+ years. Last year the teams played on Jan 4th and Brockport won that matchup by an 84-76 final score. That was an Alfred team that won the Empire 8 regular season, the E8 tournament and a first round NCAA tournament game on their way to a 24-5 record (which I believe was the best in school history).

This year's edition of Saxon Warriors isn't quite as talented as they come into tonight's game with a 5-4 record. They lost their top 3 scorers from last season to graduation and their points per game has dropped from 83 down to 70. They already own a victory over the SUNYAC as they defeated Geneseo 58-52 back in November. They also beat Westfield State  in their opening game this year and Westfield State was good enough to defeat #20 Amherst and give them their first loss of the season. So the Golden Eagles will need to take care of business tonight or the Saxon invaders could leave town with  another solid win.

Brockport is coming off a two week layoff after their narrow loss in Florida to #24 Wooster. They need to focus on the game at hand and not be looking ahead to upcoming conference play. They have all their weapons back and are ready to make a run at a SUNYAC title.

The oddsmakers have favored the Golden Eagles to win this game by an 8 point margin. I think they should win by a few more. I'll take Brockport to win 85-73.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2020, 06:11:43 PM
Brockport 34  Alfred 43    halftime


Brockport started the game by scoring the first 11 points. Alfred scored the next 10. The Saxons finally caught the Golden Eagles at 23-23 and then went right on by.

Brockport not playing well at all after the initial 4 minutes of play. They already have 13 turnovers. The offense became a long 3 point attempt (which they went 1x10) or a dribbler trying to penetrate and missing. Officials calling a tight game with 31 fouls in the first half.

Brockport led by  Jahidi Wallace with 9 points and 5 rebounds. Justin Summers with 9 points also.  Tyree Grimsley with 8 points and 3 boards/

Alfred led by Sam Dagon with 11 points and 2 rebounds. Mike Schmidt with 9 points and 4 rebounds. Adam Enders with 7 points and 3 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 03, 2020, 06:54:52 PM
Brockport 87 Alfred 64   Final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 03, 2020, 07:27:07 PM
My Eagles were down by 9, 43-34, in the first half to Alfred. It was definitely a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde first half for the Eagles. They came out with a different attitude in the second going on 27-2 sprint to take a 63-45 lead and never looked back. Devante Hagins was the catalyst in that run. He played like a man posessed!!! All the Eagles contributed to that 2nd half turnaround. Nice win!!! Back to the SUNY's next week!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2020, 12:22:59 AM
Brockport 87    Alfred 64

I almost nailed Brockport's total with my 85-73 prediction. After the horrible first half they played I wasn't sure they would win the game, much less reach the point total I thought they put up. Coach Dunne must have had a few things to say at halftime. Whatever he said, they had to be words of motivation, because his troops played like a different team in the 2nd period. Less turnovers, more assists, less fouls, better shot selection and accuracy.....in other words a different team than the one on the floor in the first half.

After going from an 11 point lead to a 12 point deficit at 39-27, the Golden Eagles were fortunate to only be down by 9 at the break. They came out of the locker room on fire which sparked an 11-2 run to tie the game at 45-45 at the 16:23 mark. They were just getting warmed up. 18 more points would get tacked on to that run making it a 29-2 outburst over the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half and the score was now 63-45. That was the ballgame as Alfred never got closer than 14 points, briefly, and Brockport stretched the lead to as many as 23. Antonio Alvarez started the Golden Eagles 2nd half  output with 5 quick points on a layup and 3 pointer, both scores coming off offensive rebounds by the Eagles after initial misses. Devante Hagins then took over the game with 12 of those 29 points coming on a variety of moves inside. He had drives, bank shots, a tip in out of nowhere, and free throws. He also had several steals, took a charge, grabbed a few boards and was a one man band. Alfred had no answer for him tonight. Five different players contributed to the point total  during that run, but it was clearly Hagins' night to shine.

The Golden Eagles ended up shooting 49% for the game after shooting just 37% in the first half. After making just 1 in 10 attempts from long range in the opening period they were 4 for 9 in the 2nd half. Alfred shot 30% from the field (18x59) and 23.5% from behind the arc (4x17).  The Saxons were 24x27 from the line while Port was 26x38. 52 personal fouls and 2 technicals whistled in the game. 23 turnovers for Alfred and 21 for Brockport. Port had 42 rebounds to 35 for Alfred.


Brockport
Jahidi Wallace captured scoring honors with a game high 17 points. he added 6 rebounds and was a perfect 10x10 from the line.

Devante Hagins in just his 3rd game of the season made his presence felt in so many ways. He had 16 points, a game high 8 rebounds, a game high 5 assists, a team high 3 steals and 3 blocks. 14 of those points came in the 2nd half.

Tyree Grimsley had 12 points and 4 rebounds in 15 minutes of court time off the bench.

Justin Summers had 11 points and tied Hagins with 3 blocks.

Antonio Alvarez had 11 points, 4 rebounds a block and a steal in 17 minutes off the bench. He was 3x6 from long range.

Danny Ashley had 6 points, 6 rebounds, tied Hagins with 5 assists and had a steal.


Alfred
Sam Dagon led the Saxons with 15 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Mike Schmidt had 9 points 5 steals, 4 rebounds and 2 assists.


Brockport improves to 7-2 overall (2-0 SUNYAC) and is off until next Friday, January 10th, when they travel north to take on Potsdam at 7:30 PM.

Alfred is now 5-5 overall and will face Keuka on Monday January 6th at 6:00 PM before heading into conference play next weekend. 
         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2020, 02:23:06 AM
Ben Walters Named to D3hoops.com National Team of the Week

This is for the period that covered games from  December 16th through the 29th.

Here is the write up from the D3hoops front page.

"Ben Walters  Guard Cortland State

Walters averaged 21 points per game in two Cortland wins. He scored 18 points (4-of-10 3-pointers) in a 69-60 win over Gwynedd Mercy at the HoopMIA D3 Holiday Shootout Dec. 17 and he scored 23 points on 8-of-12 shooting (4-of-8 from 3-point range) in a 98-73 win over Pitt Bradford in the opening round of the St. John Fisher Woodcliff Hotel & Spa Tournament."

Here is the write up from the Cortland website:

"Cortland men's basketball junior guard Ben Walters (Lockport/Starpoint) has been named to the D3hoops.com National Team of the Week, presented by Scoutware, for the period covering games from Dec. 16-29. The team recognizes the top five players nationally each week. Walters is one of two backcourt players who were chosen.

Walters averaged 21 points per game in two Cortland wins during the period. He scored 18 points (4-of-10 3-pointers) in a 69-60 win over Gwynedd Mercy at the HoopMIA D3 Holiday Shootout Dec. 17 in Florida and he scored 23 points on 8-of-12 shooting (4-of-8 from 3-point range) in a 98-73 win over Pitt Bradford in the opening round of the St. John Fisher Woodcliff Hotel & Spa Tournament Dec. 29.

The following day, Walters also shot 4-for-8 from 3-point range and scored 20 points in the Red Dragons' 102-78 win over St. John Fisher in the finals of the Woodcliff tournament. That performance, however, was not considered for the D3hoops award.

Through eight games, Walters is averaging 12.3 points per contest. He's shooting 46 percent from the floor overall and 35 percent (18-for-52) from 3-point range, and he's hit 82 percent of his free throws (14-for-17).

Cortland (6-2) will play its final non-league game of the regular season Saturday at 2 p.m. when it hosts Cabrini University of Pennsylvania."


Congratulations to Ben for 3 outstanding games. Ben is the 2nd player from Cortland to make the D3hoops Team of the Week this season as Austin Grunder was selected in Week #4.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2020, 04:55:52 AM
Jan. 4                             Three teams from the conference playing today


Clarkson  at  Plattsburgh State        2:00 PM

The Golden Knights will be looking to get a win in this rivalry for the first time in 11 years. The teams didn't meet in 4 of those years but the Cardinals have won 8 of the 9 games played going back to 2006. Clarkson's last win was a 59-58 victory on November 26th 2008. Overall the series is 27-24 in favor of Plattsburgh. Plattsburgh won last years contest by a score of 105-95.

Clarkson is 3-6 this season and at the present time the only common opponent with the Cardinals is St Lawrence. The Knights beat the Saints 81-78 and Plattsburgh owns an 89-84 win over SLU.

The oddsmakers have made Plattsburgh an 8 point favorite in this game. Clarkson has some talent and hung with Oswego State earlier only losing by an 80-72 score. I think this one will be a close game and see Plattsburgh winning by an 78-73 final score.


Cabrini  at  Cortland State        2:00 PM

The Red Dragons host the Cabrini Caveliers as part of a home and home series. Last year Cortland traveled to Pennslyvania and got a 92-86 win. Cabrini lost 5 players from that team including 3 starters and their top scorer. They are just 3-8 this season but 4 of those losses were to pretty good teams. They sandwiched a win with two 4 game losing streaks and are in need of a victory in a bad way. Cortland better not take them for granted because of their record. They have several decent players, a guard and a forward that can light it up.

Cortland is coming off 4 straight wins including the championship of the St John Fisher tournament eartlier in the week. This is their final non-conference game and they would like to finish that 7 game slate with a 6-1 record. Not sure if they will have big man Eric Edwards back or not as the last game he played in was down in Florida on 12-17. 

The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 14 point favorite. Cortland beat an Eastern team back on December 15th in Florida by a 71-62 margin. Eastern defeated Cabrini back in November 62-57. Add those MOV's together and you get 14 points. Sounds right to me. I think Cortland could win by a few more especially if Edwards plays. I'll take Cortland to win by an 88-71 final. 




   
Oswego State  vs  Montclair State        6:30 PM   at    Bethlehem, Pa.  Moravian College Steel Club Classic

The Lakers are in for a tough game here and will need to be at their best to get the W. Montclair State is currently in first place in the New Jersey Athletic Conference with a 5-0 record. They return 4 players that started last year and a 5th player that was injured and didn't play but is averaging 12.9 ppg this year.

The Lakers have been off for 28 days and could be a little rusty. They will need to be sharp from the opening tip off because Montclair has a deep rotation. They like an up tempo game and it will be tough to come back if they get down early. Many of their games have been track meets with triple figure scores, commonplace.

The point spread favors the Red Hawks by a slim 1 point margin and my head says take Montclair because they're deep, long and athletic, and I'm still thinking about that Laker loss to St. Lawrence. So of course I'm taking the Lakers to win....by an 85-82 final score.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2020, 04:31:27 PM
Final scores

Plattsburgh State  71  Clarkson College 65


Cortland State 102   Cabrini 62
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2020, 07:36:32 PM
Oswego and  Montclair State tied at 38-38  at the half

The Lakers grabbed an early 7 point lead at 12-5 but the Red Hawks caught them at 16 and its been a back and forth battle ever since. Montclair State opened up a 6 point lead on 4 different occasions starting at 26-20, and ending at 36-30. Oswego ended the period on an 8-2 run thanks to a pair of threes from Hunter Cole and Brandon Gartland.

Gartland and Liam Sanborn lead Oswego with 9 points each. Joe Sullivan has 7 points and 5 rebounds.

The Red Hawks got 10 points from Steve Breeman and 8 points from Akbar Hoffman.

As mentioned in my preview the Red Hawks are deep and use a solid 10 man rotation and press you from end to end. To combat that Coach Leone is getting extra help from his bench players and so far so good. At one point he had 4 freshman and a sophmore on the floor at the same time.  I had to go to the roster of the Lakers to check and see if I was right and these guys were the New Kids on the Block.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 04, 2020, 08:22:06 PM
Oswego State defeats Montclair State  84-73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2020, 06:37:14 AM
Plattsburgh State  71   Clarkson 65


Good game on Saturday at Memorial Hall in Plattsburgh. I had the Cardinals winning by a 78-73 score and my MOV was just a point off. Lots of missed opportunities kept the score a bit below my projections.

The Cardinals were the ones playing catch up for the first 12 minutes of the game. They were constantly a possession or two behind but finally caught the Knights and went up 20-19 when Axel Rodriguez got the hoop and harm with 8 minutes left in the half. The Cardinals got back to back buckets from Travis Cox to go ahead 26-22 but the Knights tied the game and went back in front when Plattsburgh had several turnovers resulting in layups for Clarkson. Down 30-28, Plattsburgh got six straight points from Cox on a layup, a jumper and 2 free throws to make it 34-30. Clarkson got a three from Matt Higgins with 26 seconds left but Plattsburgh's Nick DeAngelis answered that with a triple of his own, as the half came to a close and the Cards were up by a 37-33 score.

Travis Cox had a huge first half with 18 points, 4 rebounds and 2 steals. DeAngelis added 10 points as the duo combined for 28 of the Cardinals 37 points.

Plattsburgh wasted little time adding to their lead as big man Cameron Ness scored off a nice feed from DeAngelis and Cox hit another pair of baskets to open up a 10 point lead at 43-33, two minutes into the period. Clarkson would finally get on the board with a free throw for their initial points of the 2nd half, but 6 more points by Plattsburgh extended their lead to 15 points at 49-34. It was a 12-1 run to create separation and over the next 8 minutes the lead wavered between 10 and 15 points. The Knights made a bit of a charge at the 8 minute mark when they reduced the margin to 8 points at 60-52. DeAngelis scored for Plattsburgh, the Knights responded with a three pointer, but DeAngelis calmly swished one from long range at the other end to maintain the double digit margin. It was the same story all afternoon......Cox or DeAngelis knocking down shots whenever the Knights tried to make a move. Still up by 12 at 67-55 with 4:29 to play Clarkson made a final push and once again cut the gap to just 7 points. DeAngelis scored to make it a 9 point lead but Clarkson got a layup and then a threeball to raise the excitement level a few degrees inside Memorial Hall. Now down by just 4 points at 69-65 with 1:36 to play, the Knights got another steal but couldn't get the three point attempt to go down. Plattsburgh missed on their end and Clarkson tried another 3 pointer, missed it, got the rebound and missed another 3. With time running out they had to foul and DeAngelis made both free throws to give the Cardinals the cushion they needed.

Plattsburgh shot 47.3% from the field (26x55), 31.3% from long range (5x16) and 77.8% from the line (14x18)
Clarkson shot 35.1% from the field (27x77, 20% from distance (7x35) and 66.7% from the line (4x6)
Plattsburgh had 46 rebounds to 33 for the Knights but the Cardinals were far more generous giving the ball away, as they had 21 turnovers to just 10 for Clarkson.


Plattsburgh
Travis Cox captured scoring and rebounding honors with a double-double of 26 points with 10 rebounds. He added 4 steals
Nick DeAngelis was right behind him with 25 points and 6 rebounds. He added 2 asists a block and a steal.
Jeremy Eisenman had 9 rebounds and 3 points
Axel Rodriguez had 5 points and 5 rebounds,
Erik Salo had 8 rebounds and 4 points.
Cameron Ness had 6 points, 3 rebounds and 2 steals


Clarkson
Reese Swedberg scored 13 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals
Blake Gearhart had 13 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.
Matt Hoggins had 12 points, 3 reboiunds, an assist and a steal.

Plattsburgh improves to 4-4 overall (1-1 conf.) and will be in action on Tuesday night when they travel to Vermont to take on the Middlebury Panthers. Middlebury is the 4th ranked team in the country, and undefeated at 12-0 They may be ranked even higher by Tuesday as a new poll comes out Monday night. (I'm guessing they will move up to Number Three.)
Of note is that former Geneseo and All-Conference player Tommy Eastman is now playing for Middlebury and has been a solid member of their rotation. 

Clarkson falls to 3-7 (1-2 LL) and will be off until Jan 10th when they return to conference play against Bard College.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2020, 07:55:04 AM
Cortland 102  Cabrini 62

This wasn't much of a game from a fan's point of view unless you enjoy watching a beatdown. I had the Red Dragons winning this game comfortably by an 88-71 score. I knew Cortland was a better team but didn't think they were 40 points better. And still without their 2nd leading scorer, Eric Edwards.

Cabrini hung with the Red dragons for about the first 8 minutes when they were only down 17-13. Then the boom got lowered and the end came quickly. Cortland's Brendan Fitzpatrick hit a three pointer...then Jake DiSanto entered the game and followed suit 35 seconds later, as he buried a three. Twenty four seconds after that, Ben Walters joins the threeball party and drains one. Ryan Schmadel tried to make one 45 seconds later but his wouldn't go down. The next trip down the floor he hoisted another one and it did go down...the first of many. It was now 29-17 and the rout was on. The lead would continue to grow....and grow, until  it was 20 points and then double the Caveliers score at 54-27 at the end of the first half.

The 2nd verse was the same as the first. Cortland made 20 three pointers in 41 attempts and Ryan Schmadel was the main Cabrini antagonist as he was 6x12 from downtown.  Cortland shot 50.7% from the field, 48.8% from long distance and 88.9% from the line. They had 54 rebounds to 33 for the Caveliers and had 9 turnovers to just 6 for Cabrini.

Cortland
Ryan Schmadel had a team high 18 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds. As mentioned above he was 6x12 from long range.
Austin Grunder continued his double-double output as he had 17 points and 23 rebounds.
Ben Walters also had 17 points on 7x12 shooting.
Jake DiSanto had 16 points, going 4x8  from long distance. He added 2 assists a rebound and a steal.
Brendan Fitzpatrick had 10 points, 4 rebounds and a game high 12 assists. Turns out those 12 assists tied the school record for most in a single game.
Endher Gonzalez had 6 points and 8 rebounds
Kareem Lubin had 6 points and 6 rebounds.
AJ Lawton had 6 points on 2x4 shooting from long distance.

Cabrini
Voshon Mack captured scoring honors with 22 points and 5 rebounds
Keith Blassingale had 14 points, 8 assists, 2 rebounds, and 2 steals.


Cortland wins their 5th game in a row. They improve to 7-2 overall (1-1 SUNYAC) and will be back in action on January, 10th when they host Buffalo State at 7:30 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2020, 10:23:51 AM
Oswego State 84  Montclair State 73

The Lakers had the most significant win of the 3 contests on Saturday as they defeated the Red Hawks who are the leaders of the New Jersey Athletic Conference. I picked the Lakers to win this game by an 85-82 final score but was concerned that the Red Hawks might run the Lakers right off the floor. Then I thought about it and decided that Montclair State can't be any tougher or more athletic than Brockport is and if Oswego could almost beat the Golden Eagles in Brockport then I think they can hang with the Red Hawks. But I was holding my breath in a tightly contested first half.

The Lakers grabbed an early 7 point lead at 12-5 but the Red Hawks caught them at 16 and it was a back and forth battle for the rest of the half. Montclair State went ahead by 6 points at 26-20 with 9 minutes to go and I thought the Red Hawks might get some major separation, but 7 minutes later they were only up by a 36-30 score . Oswego ended the half on an 8-2 run thanks to a pair of threes from Hunter Cole and Brandon Gartland and the Lakers went into the break tied at 36.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that Oswego State had four freshmen and a sophomore on the floor.....at the same time.... in the first half...when they were behind!! I'm sending Coach Leone an email to see if he's feeling alright.   

It took 15 seconds into the 2nd half for Oswego to take the lead, when Jordan Brown swished a jumper. It was the only basket Jordan made all day (he only took 2 shots) but it was the winning basket, because the Lakers never trailed the rest of the way. Liam Sanborn followed that act with a three pointer and Joe Sullivan scored inside with a layup followed by another threeball from Brandon Gartland. It was a 10-2 run to set the stage and Oswego never allowed the Red Hawks to get closer than 2 possessions after that. The lead slowly grew until Oswego was up by 15 points, at 64-49, with 9 minutes to play. Still down by 15, at 72-57, the Red Hawks were pressing and trapping which caused the Lakers to committ several turnovers. The Red Hawks went on a 10-2 spurt that brought them within 5 points, at 74-69, with 4:17 to go. Liam Sanborn took control and drained a three to boost the lead to 8 and after the Red Hawks missed on their possession, Jeremiah Sparks made a pair of free throws and the lead was back to 10 once again. The Red Hawks missed 2 more three point shots and the foul parade was called off before it started.

Oswego outshot the Red Hawks in all three categories as they were  29x50 (58%) from the field, 11x18 (61.1%) from behind the arc and 15x24 (62.5%) from the line.

Montclair State was 29x63 (46.0%) from the field, 9x28 (48.0%) from long range and 6x10 (60%) from the stripe.

The Lakers also dominated the glass as they grabbed 38 rebounds to just 23 for the Jersey Boys. The Lakers did lose in the turnover department as they had 18 to just 11 for the Red Hawks.

Oswego
Liam Sanborn was the game's high scorer with 22 points and 4 assists.
Jeremiah Sparks had 18 points and 7 rebounds.
Brandan Gartland had 17 points and 2 rebounds.
Joe Sullivan had a double-double of 11 points and a game high 12 rebounds.
Hunter Cole had a career high 6 rebounds with 3 points and 3 assists in 19 minutes off the bench.

Montclair State
Nate Nahirny had 13 points, 4 rebounds and 2 steals
Akbar Hoffman had 13 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.
Steve Breeman had 10 points and 2 assists.

Oswego State improves to 6-2 overall (1-1 SUNYAC).
They will face the host school in the Moravian College Steel Club Classic.... the Moravian College Greyhounds today at 3:30 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2020, 03:30:12 PM
Jan. 5                            Just a single game today   

Oswego State  at  Moravian        3:30 PM      Moravian College Steel Club Classic

The Lakers try and go 2-0 at the Moravian tournament. Since this tournament is a classic format the two winers of yesterday's games, Oswego and Ithaca are not playing for the championship. So it's possible that both Oswego and Ithca could wind up 2-0. If that happens, the magicman tiebreaker comes into play, and since the Lakers beat Ithaca  back on November 15th, 85-80,  then Oswego is considered the champion. ;D Actually hoping that will happen since I'm rooting for Jake Mitchell and his Ithaca teammates to defeat Montclair State today.

The Greyhounds will present a formidable challenge for the Lakers as they hung with Ithaca yesterday and were only down 81-80 with 1:19 left in the game. They missed a shot to take the lead and ithaca got the rebound and hit a three pointer on their possession to go up by 4 with 48 seconds left. When Moravian came up empty on their possession they had to foul and Ithaca held them off. Moravian also owns a win over William Paterson who plays in the NJAC with Montclair  State. Willie Pat only lost to Montclair State by a 106-105 score in overtime. So the Greyhounds will be more than capable of spoiling the Lakers hopes of going 2-0 over the weekend.

The oddsmakers have made the Lakers a slim 2 point favorite in this one. I think they win by a few more. Oswego 85 Moravian 78.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2020, 04:35:06 PM
Oswego 28 Moravian 25 at halftime.

Scoring is at a premium in this game as both teams missing lot of shots from long and short range. Oswego only 1x11 from 3 point land. Fortunately the Lakers are 11x11 from the free throw line. The Greyhounds came out of the gate quickly and raced out to a 15-6 lead. Lakers spent most of the period playing catch up and finally did at 19-19 with 7 minutes to go. They quickly fell behind again by 5 points but with just 1:18 left in the period got a putback from Jeremiah Sparks. He was  fouled on the play and made the free throw to give the lakers their first lead of the game at 26-25. Brandon Gartland was fouled with 30 seconds left and made both free throws to extend the lead to 28-25 at the break.


Oswego was led by Jeremiah Sparks with 13 points. Brandon Gartland had 11 points.

Moravian was led by Greg Eck with 10 points and CJ Barnes had 8. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 05, 2020, 05:28:09 PM
Oswego 85  Moravian 79 Final score.    Details to follow.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2020, 03:54:59 AM
Oswego State  85  Moravian 79     

Lakers make 22 straight free throws...missed one and then make 15 more in a row to total 37 of 38 (97.4%)

I had Oswego winning this game 85-78 in my preview. I wouldn't have gotten the perfect Oswego part of that prediction without that one missed free throw but I sure wish they had made it. 38 of 38 would have been sweet. 37 of 38 is still probably the best free throw shooting total in a single game in the country this year so far. And I'm talking any game in any league....pros, college, or high school. ;D   

Oswego goes 2-0 down in Pennslyvania ths weekend as they fought back from an early 9 point deficit to collar the Greyhounds with 7 minutes to go in the first period and grab a halftime lead of 28-25. Freshman Jeremiah Sparks (13) and senior Brandon Gartland (11) were the top scorers for Oswego in the opening period, accounting for a combined 24 of the Lakers 28 first half points.

The Lakers were up 36-34 with 16:25 left in the period when Joe Sullivan scored and was fouled for a 3 point play. On Oswego's next possession, Sparks buried a three pointer and then it was a repeat of Big Joe and another 3 point play. In 80 seconds the lead went from 2 points to 11 points and Oswego was looking for more. Up 45-34 a steal by Sparks led to a layup attempt by Jordan Brown who appeared to get fouled but didn't get the call. A technical was called against Oswego and it turned into a 5 point play. The Greyhounds made 2 free throws and then scored a layup on the possession with an And One tacked on. Moravian trailed by just 6 points. No problem...just go back to Joe Sullivan who was fouled inside, made both free throws and then went down to the other end and stole the ball. That resulted in another foul by the Greyhounds, sending Liam Sanborn to the line. He made both his attempts and then he went down to the other end and stole the ball, this time scoring on a layup. Once again, in just 61 seconds this time, the lead went from 6 back to 12 and Sparks added a layup 30 ticks later to make it 53-39 with 13:06 remaining. Moravian wouldn't fold and came back with an 11-0 run to pull within three at 53-50. The Greyhounds got as close as 57-56 with 8:27 to go and had several chances to tie or take the lead but the Lakers held them off... for the moment.

Moravian finally broke through after several Laker turnovers and with the score 62-58 they got back to back 3 pointers and went ahead for the first time in the 2nd half 64-62. Sullivan got another 3 point hoop and harm and Matt O'Connor buried another three for the Greyhounds to regain the lead for Moravian. It would be their final lead. Brandon Gartland hit a pair of free throws for Oswego to tie the game and then freshman Kaleb Cook hit the go ahead jumper with 2:40 left in the game. Still up by 2 points Joe Sullivan  got yet another hoop and harm to give Oswego a 5 point lead at 77-72, with 32 seconds left. When the Greyhounds missed on their end, Sullivan struck inside, again. Oswego closed out the game going 6x6 from the line in the final 28 seconds.

The Lakers shot 22x53 from the field (41.5%), 4x19 from long distance (21.1%), and that eyepopping 37x38 from the line (97.4%).

Moravian shot  27x54 (50%) from the field, 10x23 from downtown (43.5%), and 15x18 (83.3%) from the line.

Oswego had 35 rebounds to 26 for the Greyhounds and 12 turnovers to 14 for the opponents.


Oswego
Jeremiah Sparks took home scoring honors with a career high 32 points in Sunday's game. He had 13 in the first half and 19 in the 2nd. He made all of the Lakers three pointers going 4x7 from behind the arc. He was 10x17 from field and 8x8 from the line. He added a game high 7 rebounds, a game high 3 blocks and 2 steals. I'm thinking a Player of the Week award may be forthcoming, but that's just a guess on my part. Lots of good games this week by YAC players. Jeremiah had two good games.

Joe Sullivan had 22 points, all scored in the 2nd half. He added 5 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals. He was 6x8 from the field, 10x11 from the line and had more 3 point plays anyone I've seen in a game this year.

Brandan Gartland  had 15 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists. He was 11x11 from the line.

Liam Sanborn had 6 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals. He was 4x4 from the line.


Moravian
C.J. Barnes had 29 points 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.

Greg Eck had 23 points, and 3 rebounds.

Matt O'Connor had 17 points and 3 rebounds.


Oswego improves to 7-2 overall (1-1 SUNYAC) and will host Fredonia State on Friday January 10th at 7:00 PM.                
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 06, 2020, 05:12:30 AM
Jan. 6      Just one game scheduled for today   

Geneseo State  at  Hamilton College        1:30 PM

The Knights get back in action after a month off and will be playing their final non-conference game of the season. Unfortunately it's also one of their toughest. The Hamilton Continentals are currently ranked #22 in the D3hoops Top 25 poll. They may drop down a bit in the upcoming poll tomorrow,  as they suffered their 2nd loss of the season, on Friday, against Utica.

Geneseo is coming off losses in their first 2 conference games and with a trip to Northern New York to face Potsdam and Plattsburgh, after the Hamilton game, would like to start the new year out on a positive note. This is the 3rd year in a row they have played the Continentals and the first two weren't pretty. Last year they were hammered early in the first half and suffered a 68-43 loss. The previous year they actually had a 70-61 lead with under 4 minutes to play. They never scored another point and Hamilton ended the game on a 13-0 run and walked away with a 74-70 win.

Hamilton has their sights set on another NCAA bid and a big finish in the NESCAC conference. They have one of the better players in the conference in senior guard Kena Gilmour, who is a D3hoops 2nd team preseason All American. He's a big reason the Continentals are favored to win this game by 18 points. I believe the Knights are better than they were last year and Hamilton is not as good as they were last year so I think it will be a closer game but not necessarily a close game. Hamilton has had a few hiccups and while I don't see the Knights pulling off the upset here, it's a possibility. Geneseo teams are ususally well coached and execute their plays. I think Hamilton wins the game but I also see Geneseo covering that 18 point spread.  Hamilton 84  Geneseo 71.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2020, 12:15:56 AM
This might have been mentioned in the past, so forgive me ... but Buffalo State only has 22 games this season? Only played FIVE so far? Played FOUR of them in November?! And played THREE in the opening week?!

What?!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 03:42:25 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2020, 12:15:56 AM
This might have been mentioned in the past, so forgive me ... but Buffalo State only has 22 games this season? Only played FIVE so far? Played FOUR of them in November?! And played THREE in the opening week?!

What?!

It wasn't mentioned to my knowledge. I spotted it earlier in the season and wondered if it wasn't a mistake and then forgot about it. I kept thinking they were going to do a Florida trip and add 2 games there, but that didn't happnen. I'm guessing they may have had a late cancellation from a team or two, but that's just a guess on my part. My Buffalo State connection has been silent for the past month. I'll have to rattle his chain.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 04:51:14 AM
Geneseo State 64  Hamilton 91

The Continentals put a shellacking on Geneseo Monday afternoon by blowing the game wide open in the early stages of  the 2nd half. Geneseo managed to stay close to the 22nd ranked team in the country (at the time..... now#32 with the new rankings that came out Monday night) throughout the first half and even had a 5 point lead after 5 minutes of play. They were still ahead after 9 minutes but Hamilton was beginning to assert themselves. The Continentals were down 15-14 and went on a 16-7 run to go ahead by 8 points at 30-22. The lead grew to 11 points with 2 minutes to go, but Geneseo closed the half with a 9-3 burst, to get within 5 points at 42 -37. Unfortunately, for the Knights, that was as close as it got.

Hamilton opened the 2nd period with a 23-4 explosion that turned a 5 point lead into 24 point advantage and the game was over. It was a 7 minute stretch that saw the Knights go 2 for 13 from the field with 5 turnovers. Hamilton went 10 f0r 14 with only 3 turnovers. Hamilton continued to pour it on and the lead grew to 29 points at 73-44 with 8:36 left to play. The bench players saw lots of action in the latter stages of this one.

Geneseo
Michael Gannon had 14 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists and a block.
Joseph Harclerode had almost the same stat line, with 14 points, 7 boards and 2 assists. He had a steal instead of a block
Alex Merhige  had 12 points, 5 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Hamilton
Kena Gilmour, led all scorers with 22 points. He added 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Mark Lutz chipped in with 13 points and Eric Anderson dropped in 10 points.
Nick Osarenren had a game high 8 rebounds, along with 8 points, 4 steals and 1 assist.

Hamilton outshot the Knights from the field, had 47 boards to 39 for Geneseo and had 14 turnovers to 20 for the Knights.

Geneseo falls to 3-6 (0-2 SUNYAC) and will return to action on Friday January 10th at 7:30 at Plattsburgh State. I'll be courtside for that one.

Hamilton improves to 10-2 overall and begins conference play this weekend when they host Williams College on Friday and #3 Middlebury College on Saturday.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 05:35:54 AM
Austin Gunder wins the SUNYAC Player of the Week

This was for a 2 week period from 12-23 19 through 1-5-20


This is Austin's 3rd POTW award this season. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.

"CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) selected Cortland's Austin Grunder (Trumansburg, N.Y.) as the PrestoSports Men's Basketball honoree for his performances during December 23-January 5.

Grunder averaged 22.7 points and 15 rebounds per game in three Cortland victories over the past two weeks. He scored 26 points on 11-of-16 shooting and grabbed 12 rebounds in a 98-73 win vs. Pitt Bradford and had 25 points (9-for-15 shooting) and 10 rebounds against St. John Fisher as the Red Dragons won Fisher's Woodcliff Hotel and Spa Tournament. Grunder also recorded 17 points and a career-high 23 rebounds, three shy of tying the school single-game record, in a 102-62 win over visiting Cabrini on Jan. 4 as Cortland scored 100 points in back-to-back games for just the second time in school history and first since the 1963-64 season. Over the three games he shot 57 percent from the floor (27-for-47)."


Congratulations to Austin on another fine set of games. He still leads the country in rebounds per game with 16.4.
He also is #1 in defensive rebounds per game and #6 in offensive rebounds per game. He is also tied for 5th place in double-doubles and all the players tied or ahead of him have played 2, 3, or 4 more games than he has. So he could move up there, as the season progresses. He'll be here in Plattsbirgh on Friday, January 24th. I'm looking forward to meeting him.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2020, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2020, 12:15:56 AM
This might have been mentioned in the past, so forgive me ... but Buffalo State only has 22 games this season? Only played FIVE so far? Played FOUR of them in November?! And played THREE in the opening week?!

What?!

No mistake. 22 games is correct. Lost an opportunity for xmas holiday tourney that was beyond our control  so 22 game is it (so far).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 07:02:00 PM
Jan. 7               Two games on tap today both against non-conference opponents.

   

Oneonta State  at  Keystone    7:00 PM

The Red  Dragons travel to La Plume Pennslvania to take on the Keystone Giants for the 3rd straight year. The Giants have yet to win a game against Oneonta losing 2 years ago at home 97-85 and last year they were beaten in Oneonta by a 91-73 score to open the season. Keystone has already faced a YAC team as they were part of the Elmira Tip Off Tournament this year and had to play Oswego State in the championship game. The Lakers won a 92-81 decision there but the Giants kept the game interesting as the Lakers struggled to put them away. Oswego kind of toyed with them jumping out to a 19-1 lead and then giving most of it back. When Keystone would get within shouting distance, however, Oswego would build the lead back to double digits.

Oneonta is coming off a tournamnet championship at Medgar Evers and are streaking, with 4 straight wins after a sluggish 1-3 start. This team is expected to challenge for the SUNYAC title this year. After getting close in the last few seasons and with most of the same personnel back, the Red Dragons are hoping this might be their year to win it all.

The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a solid 11 point favorite in this one. I think they win by a few more. Oneonta 95 Keystone 79.   




Plattsburgh State  at  Middlebury        7:30 PM

The Cardinals and the Panthers usually put on a good show but I'm afraid this year may be a different story. Plasttsburgh won last year's match-up at home by a 92-83 final, but Middlebury has a 9-4 record over the last 13 years. No matter who wins, it's a quality game for both teams as they are two of the top teams in the area and always worth the price of admission.

However, the Panthers are one of the best teams in the country this year and currently are ranked #3 in the D3hoops Top 25 poll having moved up a notch overnight in the latest vote. They are undefeated at 12-0 and will start NESCAC conference play this coming weekend, on the road, against 2 of their biggest threats to the top spot, Amherst and Hamilton.

The Panthers already own a win over Skidmore College by a 73-56 score. Skidmore beat Plattsburgh 83-75. They also have wins against Stevens Tech (76-66) and Springfield College (74-71. Springfield is ranked #25 and Stevens is getting votes that place them at #31. Middlebury is deep, big, and talented with a host of scorers and 3 point shooters.

Tommy Eastman who was a SUNYAC All Conference selection two years ago when he played for Geneseo is now playing for Middlebury, and he comes in off their bench. He sat out last year and will be able to play this year and next for the Panthers. He comes in to bolster the guard/forward play. He is averaging 8.9 ppg and 5.7 rpg, in 20.7 minutes of court time per game.

Plattsburgh is on a two game winning streak and evened their record at 4-4 with Saturday's win over Clarkson. They lost the entire starting five from last year's game against Middlebury. The Panther lost only 1 starter from that game and Tommy Eastman coming off the bench has better ppg and rpg than the starter that graduated. Plattsburgh has started 3 freshman in most every game but Senior Nick DeAngelis is now back at full strengh and started his first game on Saturday. DeAngelis 16.5 ppg, and Travis Cox 19.8 ppg will lead the Cardinal attack.

The oddsmakers have made the Panthers a big 20 point favortie in this one and I'd like to think they are wrong about that but can't come up with many reasons to do so. Plattsburgh will play hard, though and I think they cover the spread. I see Middlebury winning this one by an 89-75 final score. Hope I'm wrong.     

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 08:21:53 PM
Middlebury 46 Plattsburgh 24 at the half.

Not a good night for the Cardinals as Middlebury races out to a 19-2 lead to open the game. It was 3-2 and then it was 19-2 after a 16-0 Panther run. Plattsburgh came back to get within 10 points at 19-9 but the Panthers continued to pour it on. Another 11-0 run made it 30-9 and the lead has hovered around 20-22 points through the rest of the period.

Plattsburgh is led by Erik Salo with 9 points.

Middlebury has a big half from Jack Farrell with 18 points and 4 rebounds. Tommy Eastman with his first start of the season  has 8 points and 3 rebounds. Max Bosco with 7 points and 3 rebounds.

Hope the Cards can turn it around but the Panthers have so many weapons it will be difficult. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 08:23:31 PM
Oneonta leads Keystone 57-37 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 09:16:54 PM
Oneonta State 101 Keystone 70 Final score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 07, 2020, 09:17:45 PM
Plattsburgh State 60  Middlebury 99  Final score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on January 08, 2020, 01:54:33 AM
Hi magicman - I hope everything is well and you had a great holiday season!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2020, 03:54:11 AM
Middlebury 99  Plattsburgh State 60


The Panthers played like they were one of the top teams in the country. The Cardinals didn't play their best. And that's the name of the that tune.

Middlebury set the stage early when they turned a 3-2 lead into a 19-2 lead and then stretched it to 30-9 shortly after. The Cardinals offense got better but they couldn't stop the Panthers from maintaining a 20 point advantage.

Down by a 46-24 score at the break, the Cardinals needed to heat up in a hurry if there was any hope to be had. They didn't and there wasn't. The Panthers scored the first 7 points of the 2nd stanza and the lead was now 29 points. Several times over the next 10 minutes Plattsurgh would cut the lead to 20 points but it was never less than that and the Panthers slowly marched their way to a 41 point margin near tfhe end of the game when both teams had their reserves in.

The Panthers played solid defense on Plattsurgh's two leading scorers Travis Cox and Nick DeAngelis as they were held to 7 and 5 points respectively.

Plattsburgh
Axel Rodriguez led the team with 15 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.
Eric Salo had 12 points, 4 rebounds and a block.
Matt Bernhard had a career high 7 points and a career high 5 rebounds in 21 minutes off the bench.
Cameron Ness had 8 points, 3 rebounds and a block.
Travis Cox had 7 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists.

MIddlebury
Jack Farrell was the game's high scorer with 25 points, 5 steals, 4 rebounds and 4 assists.
Max Bosco had 15 points and 3 rebounds.
Tommy Eastman, ex-Geneseo player, got his first start of the season and had a double-double of 12 points and a game high 10 rebounds. Think he was saving that D-D just for us because we beat him twice, 2 years ago.

Middlebury led in all phases of the game most notably from long range where they went 16x41. Plattsburgh only had 5 threes in 16 attempts. The Cards were also guilty of 23 turnovers to only 11 for the Panthers. Middlebury took 17 more field goal attempts than Plattsburgh as a result. 36x73 compared to 23x56. The Panthers were also helped by a 39-33 advantage off the glass. Free throws were fairly even...9x13 for Plattsburgh to 11x15 for Middlebury.

Plattsburgh falls back below .500 to 4-5 overall (1-1 SUNYAC) and will try to regroup on Friday night, Jan. 10th, when they host Geneseo State at 7:30 PM.

#3 Middlebury is now 13-0 overall. They will travel to #15 Amherst College on Friday to take on the Mammoths at 7:00 PM in a battle of ranked teams as the NESCAC conference begins league play. That will be a good game to watch and I'm sorry I'll miss it but I will be courtside at the Plattsburgh-Genseso game. May be able to watch a replay of the Middlebury game later on, if one is available.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2020, 04:17:52 AM
Quote from: AllStar on January 08, 2020, 01:54:33 AM
Hi magicman - I hope everything is well and you had a great holiday season!

Hello AllStar,

Glad to hear from you. I'm still kicking. Happy New Year to you and I hope life is good on your end. 

Looks like both our teams have had a bit of a struggle this year but your guys are doing well in league play so far. Hope they can contunue to stay on top there. My guys are hoping to make the playoffs after graduating the entire starting five. I know Keene State lost their top player and 1 other starter as well but you have 4 of your top 6 players back so you should be able to make the league playoffs without a problem. I see you won tonight (Tuesday) against  Plymouth State. Good luck going forward.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 08, 2020, 05:11:45 AM
Oneonta State 101 Keystone State 70

Oneonta put up a few more points and Keystone a few less than my projected 95-79 score but I was in the ballpark. The Red Dragons trailed briefly in the early going and were down 14-10 when they broke out the whooping stick. A 14-0 run in a 5 minute span made it 24-14 and Oneonta didn't let up as they ran off another 15 points while holding the Giants to just 2 baskets. That outburst took only 4 minutes because Oneonta's Dylan Trombley scored 9 poinnts in a hurry and the Red Dragons had a 39-18 lead and never looked back. They led by 20 points at the break and it grew to 36 points at 83-47 with 13:46 remaining to be played.

Oneonta
Andres Rivera led all scores with 16 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Harrison Deegan had 14 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals and a block.
Joseph Bull had 13 points a game high 6 assists and 2 rebounds.
Kevin Mackin had 13 points and was 3x5 from long distance.
Dylan Trombley had 12 points, a game high 9 rebounds, an assist and a steal. He was also 3x5 from long distance.
Sean Nolan had 10 points,4 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.
Ian Schultz had 6 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 blocks.
Frankie Williams had 7 points, 3 steals, 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 19 minutes off the bench.

Keystone
Jeremy Jordan led the Giants with 16 points.
Ray Mills had 12 points
Tone Cockrell had 11 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists.
Michael Leak had a team high 8 rebounds, 5 points and 2 assists.

Oneonta led all the important categories most notably field goal percentage as they were 36x66 (54.5%) to Keystone's 26x64 (40.6%) Oneonta only had 7 giveaways to 16 for the Giants. Rebounding was 42 to 34 in favor of the Red Dragons.

Oneonta improves to 6-3 overall (2-0 SUNYAC) and will be off until Saturday, Jan 11th at 4:00 PM  when they host their travel partner, New Paltz State. They have completed their non-conference schedule where they were 4-3. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 08, 2020, 02:18:45 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 07, 2020, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 07, 2020, 12:15:56 AM
This might have been mentioned in the past, so forgive me ... but Buffalo State only has 22 games this season? Only played FIVE so far? Played FOUR of them in November?! And played THREE in the opening week?!

What?!

No mistake. 22 games is correct. Lost an opportunity for xmas holiday tourney that was beyond our control  so 22 game is it (so far).

Two thoughts:

First, that is still one game short of the max, so why not have that end up being 23?

Second, while tournaments fall apart, I know coaches who are figuring those things out a year in advance. Sure, it doesn't work and you are scrambling in the spring and early summer, but losing a tournament with now an extra week at the start of the season (which they used) should mean the ability to find other games even if they are singles. Did this tournament evaporate in October?

Also... there are always events like the D3hoops.com Classic they could come to. :)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2020, 10:42:58 AM
Jan. 10          Four games scheduled in conference play all at 7:30 PM


Geneseo State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM

The Cardinals and Knights are both coming off bad losses to teams that were nationally ranked. They would like to erase those memories with a win tonight but only one of them can do that. Plattsburgh has won the last 4 games and 8 of the last 10 in this series. The point spread favors Plattsburgh by a 4 point margin and it should be a close game. I think the Cardinals win this one 74-69.   


Buffalo State  at  Cortland State        7:30 PM

The Bengals have been off since December 7th when they beat Fredonia 85-74 in their only conference game to date. They are 3-2 on the season and they will need to get back up to speed in a hurry with Cortland waiting for them in the Dragons' lair. They have yet to play a game on the road with all 5 games taking place in the Sports Arena.

Cortland is coming off 2 wins in Florida, 2 wins to capture the St. John Fisher holiday tournament and a warm up for today's game with a blowout win over Cabrini last Saturday, to stretch their winning  streak to 5 in a row.

The teams have a common opponent in St. John Fisher with the Bengals losing at home 89-83 and Cortland beating Fisher on the road 102-78. If that's any indication, then the Bengals are in trouble.

The oddsmakers think it is, as they have made Cortland a solid 14 point favorite in this one. Cortland has won 4 games in a row and is 8-3 over the last 5 years in this series. The Bengals last win came in the playoffs in February of 2017 and that was at Cortland, so the Bengals know they can win there. But can they do it today against a hot Red Dragon team? I think they come up short and will struggle a bit on the road for the first time, especially off the long layoff. I'm not sure of the status of Cortland's big man, Eric Edwards, who has been out the last 3 games, but I think Cortland wins this one without him as they haven't missed a beat in his absence. Cortland 88 Buffalo State 75

   
Fredonia State  at  Oswego State        7:30 PM

The Blue Devils have struggled again this year. They have 3 wins which is more than they had all of last year, but those 3 wins have come against teams that are a combined 6-30 and one of those teams...Vassar...is 4-6.

The Lakers are streaking again, winning their last 3 contests, after they had dropped a pair of games to Brockport and St Lawrence. It may be a while before the Lakers lose another one. I can see them winning a bakers dozen in a row and while that might not happen, I don't see them losing this game tonight. Neither do the experts as they have made Oswego a huge 28 point favorite here. I can't argue with that. Fredonia has only beaten Oswego once in their last 10 meetings, which came back in February of 2017.
The Lakers may feel a little strange tonight as they are playing at home. All 9 games they have played this year have been on the road. The home crowd, the friendly bounces, the familiar backdrops when shooting, everything points to a big Laker win. Oswego 92 Fredonia 66. 


Brockport State  at  Potsdam State    7:30 PM  The Featured Game of the Night

The last time these two teams faced off was in the playoffs last year at Brockport and the Golden Eagles prevailed by a 94-88 final, but had a double digit lead for most of the 2nd half. It was the first time the Bears had been in the playoffs in 7 years and the Eagles made it a short stay. However 3 weeks before that contest the Bears had the upper hand in a game played in Potsdam, as they upended Brockport by a 78-71 score. That's what the Bears are hoping for tonight...a deja vu moment. That victory last year ended a 16 game losing streak to Brockport that also stretched back to that 2010-11 season.

The Bears come into the game with a 6-3 record and are coming off a controversial 88-85 loss to Purchase back on December 14th. The rust factor may come into play here against the Bears. Brockport played a week ago and beat Alfred 87-64. They are also back to full strength with the return of their 2nd leading scorer and top rebounder from last year, Davante Hagins, who missed the entire first semester. Also back is their top 3 point threat, Antonio Alvarez, who missed their first 6 games. Potsdam has been without transfer Brandon Segar Jr. and his return for tonight's game is questionable.

The oddsmakers have made Brockport a slim 4 point favorite in this game. I think they win by a few more than that, especially if Segar Jr. is absent. I think it will be something like Brockport 82 Potsdam 75.     
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 10, 2020, 06:27:24 PM
I had my annual SUNYAC rundown all ready to go a few weeks ago. I worked on it over a number of days and had all the teams ranked from top to bottom. Listed each team's losses to graduation and if known for other reasons, plus added in the new players, again if known, and tried to come up with a pre-season prediction. I wanted to wait until most of the non-conference game were played in November and was going to post right before the first set of conference games took place.

Then, before I could post my rankings my computer went down and I lost everything I had put together. Needless to say I was not a happy camper. I wasn't about to do it over because it's too much work. So I'm listing my predicted order of finish without most of the usual banter. It's the best I could do because of the circumstances.


1.   Brockport State
Originally I had the Golden Eagles at the top of the this list. Then when the rosters were posted there was a glaring omission as their 2nd leading scorer and top rebounder, was no longer listed on the roster. That was a huge loss and I was prepared to drop them down a notch. Then on December 15th, in their Florida tournament, he magically re-appears. Coach Dunne apparently, was just keeping him on ice until he was needed. The Golden Eagles are talented, deep, and athletic.  So Brockport, with all their weapons in place, is my pick to win the regular season title and gain the top seed in the SUNYAC tournament.

2.   Oswego State
The Lakers won't go away. Year after year it seems they are near or at the top of the standings at the end of the season and have won four SUNYAC tournaments in the 8 years that Coach Leone has been there. They brought in another promising freshman to go with their returning veterans and are off to another fine start.

3.   Cortland State
The Red Dragons are also a team that just keep reloading. Coach Spanbauer finds another outstanding player and this one has been hiding in plain sight, right on the Cortland campus. That player and a new big man might be just the pieces that lift the Red Dragons to the top.

4.   Oneonta State
I thought this might be the Year of the Dragon and it still may turn out that way. These Red Dragons return just about everyone from last year and have the experience in the YAC Final Four to go all the way. They started out a little slow this season but seem to be hitting their stride with a 5 game winning streak and are tied for first place in the conference.

5.   Potsdam State
The Bears are off to their best start in 15 years. You have to go back to the 2004-05 season to find a better record than the 6-3 beginning, that Potsdam has fashioned. Two new big men, a transfer and a freshman have fit right in as Coach Bechtel continues to turn the Bears into a contender.

6.   Plattsburgh State
The Cardinals lost more than anyone else through graduation as their entire starting five  departed. Longtime coach Tom Curle, the winningest coach in the program's history, also left to become athletic director at another college. New head coach, Mike Blaine seems to be the right man for the job, though, and I'm convinced he'll have the Cardinals back near the top of the standings in the near future. Plattsburgh brought in some talented freshman and 3 of them have cracked the starting lineup. They also have some returning rotation players that will give them a chance to grab that last playoff spot.

7.   Buffalo State
Another young team, the Bengals will challenge for the final playoff spot and if they improve as the season progresses may even move up the ladder a bit higher. They lost their top scorer from last year and several other rotation regulars but still have a solid nucleus and a freshman guard that has moved right into the starting lineup.

8.   New Paltz
The Hawks lost 2 starters from last year but return their 3 top scorers from a team that just missed the playoffs by losing a tiebreaker to Potsdam for the 6th seed. They will struggle to finish that high this season. It's entirely possible they could finish in playoff position but last year they had some big upsets against Brockport, Cortland and Oneonta (twice) to get to 9 wins, I just don't see that happening this year.

9.   Geneseo State
The Knights could improve off last years' 9th place finish especially if they can find a way to win tonight against Plattsburgh. While their record is only 3-6 their losses have all come against teams that have a winning record and are a combined 48-16. They return most of the rotation from last year losing only 2 regulars. They have been replaced with 2 freshman who are getting significant playing time. I expect this team to improve as the season progresses and wouldn't be surprised if they do move up in the standings. A playoff spot seems to be a reach, though.

10.   Fredonia
Well, somebody has to be at the bottom and unfortunately it's the Blue Devils once again. The good news is they have already eclipsed last years' total of 2 win's by starting out 3-4 this year. The bad news is 2 of those wins came against 1-12 teams and 1 of their losses was to Pitt-Bradford who is 1-11. I'm hopeful this young team can turn things around but the YAC is tough and I don't see many more victories coming their way.                         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 10, 2020, 11:22:28 PM
I'll Let Magic post his stellar analysis

Genny beat Platty 61-59 on a Gannon FG with :27 left.
Potsdam beat Brockport 86-70 led by new addition Isaiah Brown with 26 pts in his Potsdam debut. 
Jayquan Thomas added 20 second half points. 
Austin Grunder continued his stellar play with 35 points and 16 rebounds as Cortland crushed Buffalo State 107-80.
Despite a strangely quiet Jordan Sparks, Oswego crushed Fredonia 67-44.
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Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 08:13:05 AM
Geneseo 61  Platsburgh 59

Very competitive game in Plattsburgh with the outcome in doubt even as the buzzer went off. Geneseo was down 59-56 with 1:35 to go and after a Plattsburgh turnover, the Knights got a jumper from Michael Gannon to get within a point with 1:20 left. Plattsurgh took a time out to set something up, but when play resumed committed another turnover. The Knights took a time out and Geneseo's Gannon scored again to put the Knights up 60-59 with 27 seconds left. Plattsburgh chose to play on and went for the go ahead score with 12 seconds left but came up empty. Plattsburgh fouled Gannon, who made the first and missed the second. The Cardinals' Travis Cox grabbed the rebound but Geneseo, with fouls to give, used them at the 7 second and 5 second mark. Plattsburgh used their final time out and Nick DeAngelis drove to the hoop but couldn't get his shot to go down. Plattsburgh's Adam Jaquish timed it just right, grabbed the rebound and put it back, all in one move, while in mid air, but the ref waved it off despite the protests of nearly everyone in the building. Unfortunately it's Division III and not DI so there is no video replay to make sure the refs got it right.  (A fellow sitting to my left was recording the action and when he played it back, he stated the ball was out of Jaquish's hands when the lights came on the backboard.)

Plattsburgh had ample ways to win this game without a last gasp attempt, but didn't use good judgement when it mattered. They led nearly the entire 2nd half and a layup by Erik Salo with 8:56 to play gave the Cardinals a 52-45 lead. From that point on Plattsburgh had 15 possessions and only scored on three of them. Six of them ended with a turnover and six others with a missed field goal attempt. You won't win many games in crunch time with those stats.

Plattsburgh
Nick DeAngelis captured scoring honors with 22 points. He added 6 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.
Travis Cox had 12 points, 4 steals, 2 rebounds, 1 block and 1 assist.
Axel Rodriguez also had 12 points, 2 assists and a block.
Erik Salo had 8 points, and a career high 11 rebounds.
Adam Jaquish also had a career high with 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 points and a steal.

Geneseo
Michael Gannon was the high scorer for the Knights with 21 points. He added 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a block. He was huge in crunch time as he scored Geneseo's final 5 points and 12 of their last 16.
Elijah Wingfield had 15 points and 4 rebounds in 23 minutes off the bench.
Joseph Harclerode had a game high 16 rebounds, 4 points, 3 assists and a steal.
Alex Merhige had 7 points, 8 rebounds, 4 steals, 3 assists and a block.


Plattsburgh drops to 4-6 overall (1-2 SUNYAC) and will take on Brockport State on Saturday at 4:00 PM.

Geneseo improves to 4-6 overall (1-2 SUNYAC) and will travel to Potsdam for a Saturday sfternoon game against the Bears at 4:00 PM.
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Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 08:13:42 AM
Potsdam 86 Brockport State 70

I didn't see this one coming. Not sure if anyone did. I could see Potsdam winning at home but not by a 16 point margin. Apparently my alma mater wants to be taken seriously this year.

Not sure where Coach Bechtel had his latest hidden gem hiding but the debut of Isaish Brown certainly made a big splash. Like a poker player with aces up his sleeve, the Bears' coach brought out his best hand, when the big game was in town.

Potsdam got the early lead when they broke out of a 10-10 tie at the 13:21 mark and went on a 14-2 run over the next 3 minutes fueled by 10 points from Danny Delsol-Lowry. Up 24-12 the Bears couldn't hold on to the lead as Brockport, with their deep rotation, got points from 6 different players in an 8 minute span to knot the game up at 34-34. Brockport couldn't get the go ahead score, however and the Bears went back in front, 41-37 at the break.

Potsdam continued to lead by 2 possessions through the early stages of the 2nd period.
The Bears got a big first half from Isaiah Brown with 13 points and Delsol-Lowry with 14 points. Now it was Jayquan Thomas who was heating up. He scored 5 points on Potsdam's first two possessions and Brown continued to score inside. The Golden Eagles were getting big efforts from Justin Summers and Tyler Collins. They were down 46-39 when Collins hit a 3 pointer to bring them within 4. Brown scored on a jumper for Potsdam, and Summers nailed a threeball for Port.  Tyrese Baptiste scored inside for the Bears to make it 50-45 but again Collins drained a three and Summers scored in the paint. The score was tied and Brockport looked to take over.

This is where the Bears would normally continue to play hard but manage to come out on the short end more often than not over the last dozen years or...pre JB (that's pre Jim Bechtel). Tonight the Bears said no way, not in our house and wouldn't let the Golden Eagles get a lead. Brown scored, Thomas scored, and then Brown scored again. The lead was back to a two possession margin. For every Brockport action there was a Potsdam reaction. The lead grew to 7....then it was 9....Thomas scored again and it was 11 at 66-55 with 11:22 left to play.  Summers scored inside and Collins drained another threeball to cut it to a 6 point lead. Brown scored inside and then Thomas did also. In between it was Isaiah Joseph or Aaron Armstrong putting points on the board for the Bears. The lead was now fluctuating between 6 and 10 points. Up 74-68 the Bears got a 3 pointer from Brown and when Port came up empty on 2 straight trips, Thomas hit another three to make it 80-68 with 3:42 to go. Twice more Brockport missed on their end and this time Brown had a huge dunk, that signaled this game was over.

Potsdam
Isaiah Brown was the games' high scorer with 26 points. He made the first shot he took in a Potsdam uniform and scored 13 in each half. He added 7 rebounds and a steal. He is a 6'6" sophomore forward who tranferred from a juco out in Missouri. (Isaiah's from the Queens area) He's certainly off to a fine start. Welcome to Potsdam.

Jayquan Thomas had 20 points and 5 assists. He scored all 20 points in the 2nd half.
Danny Delsol-Lowry had 16 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists and 4 steals.
Isaiah Joseph had 8 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals.
Aaron Armstrong had 6 points,4 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.
Tyrese Baptiste had 4 points, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Brockport
Justin Summers led Brockport with 19 points, 4 rebounds, an assist and a block.
Tyler Collins had 16 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds, and a steal.
Jahidi Wallace had 15 points and 6 rebounds.
Devante Hagins had a game high 12 rebounds, 8 points, 3 steals and 1 assist.

Potsdam shot 51% from the field (35x68), 36% from long distance (9x25) and 70% from the line (7x10) as they beat the Golden Eagles in all 3 areas.

Brockport shot 39.2% from the field (29x74) 23.1% from long range (6x26) and 42.9% from the line (6x14).

Both teams had 43 rebounds and they both had 16 turnovers.

Potsdam improves to 7-3 overall (2-1 SUNYAC) and will host Geneseo on Saturday afternoon at 4:00 PM

Brockport falls to 7-3 overall (2-1 SUNYAC) and will head on over to Plattsburgh to face the Cardinals at 4:00 PM today. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 10:28:22 AM
Cortland State 107  Buffalo State 80

I thought this game might turn into a track meet. I also thought the score would be closer. Buff State hung with Cortland for the first 8 minutes of the game and were only trialing 15-14 when the Red Dragons went on a 14-4 streak that opened up a double digit lead at 29-18 with 9:39 to play. The lead would vary between 7 and 13 points until the Bengals down 42-33 got back to back layups from Argjend Imeri to cut the lead to 5 points with 3:21 left in the half. Austin Grunder hit a 3 pointer for Cortland and Ben Walters scored inside. The lead was back to 10 points and it remained there at the break.

Needing to cut into the lead the Bengals got a 3 ball from Jordan Christopher to start the 2nd half. Cortland missed on their end and Sheldon Adams hit a jumper to cut the lead to 5 points. Austin Grunder scored inside for Cortland and after the Bengals missed it was Grunder's turn to bury a three. Seconds later Ryan Schmadel did the same and after Buff State missed another shot, Grunder was fouled and he made them both. Suddenly the lead was 13 points and Grunder added another triple to make it 65-49 with 16:14 still left to play. The Bengals never got the lead below 11 after that and it continued to grow until it reached 27 points at 105-78. The Bengals simply had no answer for Austin Grunder but then neither has anyone else that he's went up against. Buff State would score and Grunder would answer time and time again.

Cortland
Austin Grunder scored 35 points and had 16 rebounds. He also had 3 assists and 3 steals. Somehow a double-double doesn't seem descriptive enough for stats so large.

Ben Walters had 21 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist. He was 5x8 from long range.

Ryan Schmadel had 20 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. He was 6x13 from long range.

Brendan Fitzpatrick had 10 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists.

Buffalo State
Jordan Christopher had a team high 14 points, and a team high 11 rebounds to get a double-double. He also had a rebound, an assist and a steal.

Kay Grant also had 14 points, 4 rebounds an assist and a steal.
Sheldon Adams had 13 points, 8 rebounds an assists and a steal.
Aaron Davis had 12 points, 5 assists and 1 rebound.
Argjend Imeri had 11 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.

Cortland had an excellent day shooting the ball as they were 39x67 (58.2%) They were 18x37 from long range (48.6%)....that's how you hit the century mark....the 3rd game in a row that the Red Dragons have done so, which is a new school record. 
Buffalo State was 31x74 (41.9%) from the field and 8x30 from long range (26.7%). The Bengals were a perfect 10x10 from the line. Cortland was 11x17 from the line.

The Red Dragons had 38 rebounds to 34 by the Bengals. Cortland had 11 turnovers to 10 for Buffalo State.

Cortland wins their 6th game in a row and improves to 8-2 (2-1 SUNYAC). They will host  Fredonia at 4:00 PM today.

Buffalo State drops to 3-3 overall (1-1 SUNYAC). They will travel up to Oswego to play the Lakers at 4:00 PM today   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Oswego State  67  Fredonia State 44

The Blue Devils came to play and they hung with the Lakers for most of the first half in this contest. They actually had a lead for quite a while and were still up 20-18 with 7:11 left in the first period. Then the Lakers' Caleb Cook hit a triple, and Brandon Gartland hit one also. Joe Sullivan hit a jumper and Liam Sanborn scored inside. Suddenly it was 28-20 and Oswego was on their way. They were up 28-23 at the break.

Fredonia scored immediately, from long distance, to cut the margin down to two points. Oswego struck back with a vengeance as they went on 20-2 run that blew the game wide open. There was 13:25 left to play and the score was now 48-28. Fredonia never got it below 17 points the rest of the way.

Oswego
Liam Sanborn had 15 points, 3 rebounds, an assist and a steal.
Joe Sullivan had a double-double of 14 points and 11 rebounds. He also had 5 steals and 2 assists.
Brandan Gartland had 13 points 4 rebounds and 1 assist.
Jeremiah Sparks had 6 rebounds, 4 points, 1 assist and 1 block.
Kaleb Cook had 7 points, 2 assists, a steal and a rebound.

Fredonia
Dydy Bryan had  14 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.
Tyler Roberts had 13 points, a rebound and a block.
Moussa Samassa had 7 rebounds, 5 points and 3 blocks.

Oswego improves to 8-2 overall (2-1 SUNYAC) and will play Buffalo State today at 4 PM.


Fredonia drops to 3-5 overall (0-2 SUNYAC) and will play Cortland at 4 :00 PM today.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 03:37:05 PM
Jan. 11        All ten teams in action today


Fredonia State  at  Cortland State        4:00 PM

The Red Dragons are favored by 28 points in this one I think they roll on by a score of 86-61.


Geneseo State  at  Potsdam State        4:00 PM

The Bears are hoping for a 2-0 weekend. The oddsmakers favor them by 9 points. I think they win by a few more. Potsdam  77 Geneseo 63.

   
Brockport State  at  Plattsburgh State        4:00 PM

The Golden Eagles will not want to go home 0-2 on the weekend. The Cardinals don't either but Brockport will be too much for Plattsburgh. The point spread has Brockport  favored by 10. I think they win by a few more. Brockport 86 Plattsburgh 71.   

Buffalo State  at  Oswego State        4:00 PM

The Lakers are 13 point favorites in this game. I think that's about right. Oswego 89 Buffalo State 77.    

New Paltz State  at  Oneonta State        4:00 PM

Oneonta looking to take over sole possession of first place with a win here. The oddsmakers have them listed as a 14 point favorite. Oneonta wins 82-69.   
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Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 04:51:34 PM
Halftime scores

Brockport 46 Plattsburgh 35

Cortland leads Fredonia 54-33

Geneseo leads Potsdam 28-27

Oneonta 44 New Paltz 29

Oswego 39 Buffalo State 23    3 minutes left in first half.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 05:44:55 PM
Cortland 96 Fredonia 66    Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 05:51:02 PM
Potsdam State 68 Geneseo State 58 Final score.
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Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 05:52:41 PM
Oneonta State 84  New Paltz State 76  Final score.
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Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 05:57:00 PM
Brockport State 94 Plattsburgh State 72   Final score
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Post by: magicman on January 11, 2020, 05:58:29 PM
Oswego State 86  Buffalo State 66  Final score.
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Post by: AllStar on January 11, 2020, 11:36:03 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 12, 2020, 04:00:22 AM
Toughest Syracuse series I ever remember.  Ran into a Cortland team Friday that A couldn't miss (18/37 from behind the arc) and B broke out some guy named Grunder. Reminds me of a Plattsburgh Patron who can shoot 3's also ( go figure). The kid was a beast !
  Just wasn't our day at Cortland.  Fortunately we all get to play everyone twice in this conference

    Next day at Oswego wasn't much better although halfway through the 2nd half and BENGALS cutting at 19 pt lead down to 10, the unthinkable happened. Senior forward Steve Calvo is running down court and for some reason his knee just goes out.  He let out the most bone shattering yell that I have ever heard on a college campus.  My god.  Some , like me , could feel his pain.  Game stopped for over 10 mins. Oswego crowd was very gracious as he sat up and then was carried to his seat .

Don't remember too much more of the game after that. TBH.

I do know that Brockport is next up in the horizon in 72 hours. Hopefully our depleted ranks will figure out what they are doing wrong and right the ship

I think they will

Go BENGALS 
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Post by: scooterman on January 12, 2020, 10:27:50 AM
Well the dreaded North Country trip is over for my Eagles and coming out of it 1-1 isn't bad, but not exactly what they pictured. I watched the Potsdam game on the website and was disappointed in the defensive intensity of my Eagles. Potsdam shot the ball well and is definitely a very good team, but my Eagles didn't match their intensity on the defensive end of the floor. #23 for Potsdam is a very talented scorer that was the catalyst and thorn in the Eagles side all night. Potsdam matches up very well with the Eagles as far as quickness, transition and rebounding. Hopefully when they come to Bport the tables will be turned!!!

I didn't get to watch the Plattsburgh game but it appears that the Eagles were ready for whatever the Cards threw at them. Nice win to get back on track!!! Go B-port

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 12, 2020, 09:10:16 PM
Geneseo at Potsdam
1-11-2020
Knights went in to Jerry Welsh Gymnasium, having won a last minute win at Plattsburgh on Friday, to face the Potsdam Bears who posted an 86-70  thumping on the heavily favored Brockport Eagles on Friday Night

Bears got off to a very slow start, as Genny's Elijah Wingfield and Joseph Harclerode led the Knights to a 14-2 lead just over 4 minutes into the contest.

10 minutes into the first half, Genny still led by 11, and not looking good for my Bears.

Potsdam, finally got their act together and clawed back to end the first half down by 1, 27-28. Sparkplug for Potsdam was Dante Viskovich who came off the bench to hit 3 bombs from long range  to close the gap.

Second Half, Bears obviously got a serious pep talk from Coach Bechtel and came out with their game faces on.

Bears engineered a 38-35 lead in the first five minutes of 2H
Extended from there to + 10 just under 10:00

Back and forth after that, Genny got a 3pt play with with a foul and a T to keep it close with 3:00 left.
Bears closed it out from there.

Potsdam led by newcomer Isaiah Brown with 21 points and 9 rebounds, top defender Aaron Armstrong had a career high 12,  including three clutch treys. Tyrese Baptiste continues to be a force in the paint with 10 rebs and 5 blocks in 20 minutes.

Genny led by Elijah Wingfield with 18 and Michael Gannon with 14, [all in 2H from behind].

Bears Host Platty on Tuesday night.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 13, 2020, 05:05:09 PM
so after two weekends, the SUNYAC is shaking down like this.

Oneonta leads at 3-0.

Cortland, Oswego, Brockport and Potsdam all at 3-1, Brockport has wins over Cortland and Oswego, Potsdam has a win over Brockport and a loss at Oneonta.

Buff State is a game and a half back at 1-2, and Geneseo and Plattsburgh both 1-3.  New Paltz and Fredonia bringing up the rear at 0-3.

As Han Solo said in Star Wars, this is gonna be close.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2020, 07:15:40 AM
Austin Grunder receives more weekly honors.

Austin was named to the D3hoops Team of the Week for Week #8 on Monday for the 2 huge games he had over the weekend. It marked the second time this season he's made the TOTW having done so back on December 10th for Week #4
Here's the write up for this week's award:

"Austin Grunder
Grunder averaged 30 points and 17 rebounds per game along with three assists and three steals per contest in two home SUNYAC wins. He scored 35 points - the most by a Cortland player in six years - and grabbed 16 rebounds in a 107-80 win over Buffalo State, making 13-of-18 field goals, including 4-of-6 3-pointers. The following afternoon he registered 25 points and 18 rebounds in a 96-66 win over Fredonia."

Here's the link to the complete Team of the Week: https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2019-20/week8



Austin was also selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the 4th time this season.   It marked the 2nd time he has been selected in back to back weeks. He still leads the nation in rebounds per game and is 2nd in the nation in double-doubles. He's near the top in several other categories as well.

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website on his POTW award.

"Posted: Jan 13, 2020   
CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) names Austin Grunder (Trumansburg, N.Y.) its PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week for the fourth time this season.

Grunder averaged 30 points and 17 rebounds per game along with 2.5 assists and 2.5 steals per contest in two home SUNYAC wins for the Red Dragons. He scored 35 points - the most by a Cortland player in six years - and grabbed 16 rebounds in a 107-80 win over Buffalo State Friday night. He made 13-of-18 field goals, including 4-of-6 3-pointers. The following afternoon he registered 25 points and 18 rebounds in a 96-66 win over Fredonia. Grunder currently leads Division III nationally with 16.5 rebounds per game. He has 10 double-doubles in 11 games."
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Post by: magicman on January 14, 2020, 04:05:11 PM
Jan. 14     All ten teams in action on a Tuesday which is the ony time it will happen this year
                       

   

Buffalo State  at  Brockport State        4:00 PM

The Bengals have their work cut out for them when they take on the Golden Eagles in Brockport today. At least they know they can win there, having pulled off that feat last year by an 88-80 score. In fact the last 3 times the Bengals have defeated Brockport they have all occured on Port's home court. That's the good news. The bad news is they are 3-16 over the last 8 years against the Golden Eagles. That equals the number of wins they had in the 2010-11 season when they beat Brockport 3 times.

Brockport wasn't happy with their 1-1 trip to the North Country over the weekend. They are hoping for an Oneonta win tonight so they can reclaim a share of first place in the YAC.

The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a solid 16 point favorite in this one. Based on current form that might not be enough. I think Brockport wins this one by a 94-75 final score.   


Oneonta State  at  Cortland State        4:00 PM  Featured Game of the Day

The first of the annual battles between Red Dragon relatives. The Cortland variety is looking to knock off their Oneonta cousins, who are undefeated in the conference. Last year Oneonta was 2-1 against Cortland and both of those wins came in Cortland.

Both teams are red hot right now, with Oneonta on a 6 game winning streak and Cortland on an even longer, 8 game unbeaten stretch. Cortland has been missing one of their new acquisitions for 5 of those games but hasn't missed a beat.

The point spread favors Cortland by 9 points. I think that's a few too many and was even tempted to pick Oneonta to win this game. They still may, but I'll take Cortkland to come away with the W here by an 82-78 final score.       

Back later with the other games.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 14, 2020, 04:48:44 PM
Cortland 44 Oneonta 38 at the half.

Apparently the Brockport State-Buffalo State game did not tip off at 4:00 PM as the D3hoops schedule said it would. It tips off at 7:30 this evening.

Cortland trailed Oneonta early 10-3 but soon caught those Red Dragons at 12-12 and went right on by to a 21-14 lead. That 18-4 run was fueled by 4 three pointers from 4 different players. The largest lead was 8 points on 3 different occasions by Cortland.

Austin Grunder leads Cortland with 9 points and 13 rebounds. Ben Walters has 8 points and 4 assists. Ryan Schmadel has 8 points as well.

Oneonta is led by 11 points and 5 rebounds from Joe Bull. Harrison Deegan and Dylan Trombley both have 8 points and 4 rebounds.   
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Post by: magicman on January 14, 2020, 07:56:40 PM
Jan. 14 


Fredonia State  at  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

Fredonia looking to get their first conference win. Geneseo looking to move into a playoff position. Knights favored by 13. I think Geneseo wins this one  74-64.




Plattsburgh State  at  Potsdam State        7:30 PM

Potsdam has lost 14 in a row to the Cardinals. Tonight they end that streak. Oddsmakers have them listed as a 13 point favorite.  They should cover. Bears win 86 to   73.




Oswego State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

Lakers keep on rolling as they are favored by 13 as well.  Hawks winless in the conference and will stay that way for at least another day. Oswego 84 New Paltz 70.
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Post by: magicman on January 14, 2020, 08:51:55 PM
Potsdam 48 Plattsburgh 33

Bears firing on all cylinders as they shoot 50% from the field and manage to build a quick double digit lead. Cardinals cut it to single digits on several occasions but Potsdam manages to hit 3 pointers nearly every time to boost the lead back to 15.

Potsdam is led by Isaiah Brown with 10 points and 4 rebounds. Tyrese Baptiste has 9 points and 7 rebounds. Danny Delsol-Lowry has 8 points.

Plattsburgh gets 7 points from Axel Rodriguez, and 5 points each from Matt Bernhard, Travis Cox and Jeremy Eisenman.
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Post by: magicman on January 14, 2020, 08:56:35 PM
Updates:

Oswego leads New Paltz 66-47 with 8:21 to play.


Fredonia leads Geneseo 59-58 with 2:17 to play.

Brockport leads Buffalo State 79-48 with 11:35 left to play.

Oneonta defeats Cortland 89-81.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 15, 2020, 06:38:01 PM
Tuesday's Final Scores:

Oneonta 89  Cortlnd 81

Brockport 100  Buffalo State 81

Oswego State 84  New Paltz 59

Fredonia 64  Geneseo 62

Potsdam 98  Plattsburgh 79


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2020, 10:20:38 AM
Whew. I took a couple of days to recuperate from that Brockport spanking. Silver lining is that after being down by 30 at half we fought back to close within 18. But a loss.....is a loss. I know my beloved BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2020, 10:25:52 AM
Whew. Im glad I finally got the taste out of my mouth of that Brockport game.  I was good to see the boys fight back but they put themselves in to big of a hole to begin with (down 30 at half...loss by 18).  I know the boys are glad to return home for the next 2 games (Vs Plattsburgh and Potsdam)   Hopefully we can get going at home. Cant keep spotting teams an early lead. Gotta stay competitive from the very beginning.  My BENGALS have the talent. Just gotta put if together. This weekend is as good a time as any!


Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 16, 2020, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2020, 10:25:52 AM
Whew. Im glad I finally got the taste out of my mouth of that Brockport game.  I was good to see the boys fight back but they put themselves in to big of a hole to begin with (down 30 at half...loss by 18).  I know the boys are glad to return home for the next 2 games (Vs Plattsburgh and Potsdam)   Hopefully we can get going at home. Cant keep spotting teams an early lead. Gotta stay competitive from the very beginning.  My BENGALS have the talent. Just gotta put if together. This weekend is as good a time as any!

Go BENGALS

I'll root for next weekend if you don't mind. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 16, 2020, 07:59:02 PM
Bengal--I watched the Bport game on internet and felt back for your Buff St boys. They really took it on the chin, and I haven't experienced that type of game from them in many years. I don't know much about your team, but they got to pick it up to compete for playoff spot. Good luck down the road!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 16, 2020, 09:37:02 PM
I don't think Dunne was too happy with his troops after sweeping favorites Oswego and Cortland and then getting smacked at Jerry Welsh Gym.  Sure didn't look happy late in second half.  Think his guys are pedal to the metal from here on out.
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Post by: magicman on January 17, 2020, 10:20:44 AM
Jan. 17          Four games on tap for tonight.

New Paltz State  at  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

The Hawks still looking for their first conference win, while the Knights are looking to get a leg up for the final playoff position. The teams currently in 6th through 10 place will be duking it out for the 6th seed and beating those teams when you meet up with them could be the tiebreaker needed to secure that coveted spot. Geneseo with a win against Plattsburgh was ahead of the game until they lost to Fredonia last weekend. New Paltz has already dropped a game to Plattsburgh so a win here would get them back on even footing.

The teams have split the season series for the last three years, and the spread favors the home team Knights in this one by 6 points. It's hard to win on the road in the YAC, especially the longer trips. I have to go with the home team in this one as well.
Geneseo 68  New Paltz 64. 


     



Plattsburgh State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The winner of this game could be in sole possession of the 6th and final playoff spot at the end of the day. Then all they have to do is hang onto it for the next 5 weeks. For two young teams that are struggling, that's as good a reason as any, to try and get the W in this one.     

Both teams in need of a win as they try to end losing streaks....3 straight losses for Buff State and 4 straight for the Cardinals. The last time the Bengals beat the Cards was in the 'Burgh on January 7th, 2017. Before that it was in Buffalo on January 3rd, 2013. In between it's been all Plattsburgh as the Cardinals have won the last 4 in a row and 12 of the last 14.

The oddsmakers think that's about to change, however, as they have made the Bengals a 4 point favorite in this one. Plattburgh has been shorthanded all year long and even more so for the last few games. I'm hopeful that players who were sick are back in action tonight. I can't pick against my Cardinals even though I think they might struggle here, as this is the toughest trip they make all year. The Bengals will be riled up and pressing from one end to the other, but I'll still take Plattsburgh to win a close one....82-79.     



Oneonta State  at  Brockport State        7:30 PM Featured Game of the Night

Brockport was hoping the other Red Dragons would win that game on Tuesday between the relatives. Cortland already had a loss (compliments of Brockport) and the Golden Eagles wanted Oneonta to pick up one as well. But Coach Conover's crew had something else in mind and got the road win at Cortland, to give them sole possession of first place. They would like more of the same tonight when they are the visitors again. However, Brockport, with a little luck, could be the one in first place all by themselves, when the night is over.

These Red Dragons will have something to say about that, as they are coming into the contest riding a 7 game winning streak and averaging 89 ppg in that stretch. Brockport is on a 2 game winning streak, since a loss to Potsdam temporarily derailed their march to the top of the standings. After their big wins against Oswego and Cortland ended the first semester of play, the Golden Eagles had a slight advantage, but the loss to Potsdam evened things out. A win tonight over another one of the top contenders could give them an edge once more.

Brockport won both games last season, but Oneonta won 2 of 3 games the year before that. Brockport is 13-5 in this series over the last 8 years. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 6 point favorite in this game, but I think it might be closer than that. I see the Golden Eagles winning by a score of 88-85.         


Potsdam State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

The Bears are turning into the surprise team of the year as they keep showcasing new talent . The latest arrival, Isaiah Brown has now scored 68 points in 3 games, (26,21,21) and is averaging 7 boards per game. They also have a freshman big man, Tyrese Baptiste, who is a double-double machine. The Bears are 9-3 and haven't sported a record that lofty, at this point in the season, in 15 years. The fans in Potsdam are getting their mojo back.

Fredonia got a big win the other night as they came from 9 points down to edge Geneseo by a 64-62 final score. It marked the first time in over two years that the Blue Devils weren't in the SUNYAC cellar. Now they just have to find a way to keep from falling back down there. I don't think the Bears are going to do them any favors tonight.

The experts have made Potsdam a solid 14 point favorite in this one. I see them winning by a few more than that. Potsdam 87  Fredonia 68.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2020, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 16, 2020, 09:37:02 PM
I don't think Dunne was too happy with his troops after sweeping favorites Oswego and Geneseo and then getting smacked at Jerry Welsh Gym.  Sure didn't look happy late in second half.  Think his guys are pedal to the metal from here on out.

bear,

I think you meant to say.... after sweeping Oswego and Cortland,.... since Brockport hasn't played Geneseo yet. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 17, 2020, 11:01:04 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 16, 2020, 09:37:02 PM
I don't think Dunne was too happy with his troops after sweeping favorites Oswego and Geneseo and then getting smacked at Jerry Welsh Gym.  Sure didn't look happy late in second half.  Think his guys are pedal to the metal from here on out.

Not a guy I'd be interested in upsetting, that's for sure.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 17, 2020, 03:16:25 PM
Quote from: magicman on January 17, 2020, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: thebear on January 16, 2020, 09:37:02 PM
I don't think Dunne was too happy with his troops after sweeping favorites Oswego and Geneseo and then getting smacked at Jerry Welsh Gym.  Sure didn't look happy late in second half.  Think his guys are pedal to the metal from here on out.

bear,

I think you meant to say.... after sweeping Oswego and Cortland,.... since Brockport hasn't played Geneseo yet.

+k Magic, thanks for the catch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 17, 2020, 04:01:20 PM
I agree with Magic with this being a high scoring affair. The points per game are within 1(83-82) and the defenses both are giving up 75 a game. Whoever can get that last stop will win this contest. It should be a fun game to watch. Too bad I can't be there in person but will be watching on the internet. Stake your claim to 1st place in the SUNY! Good luck Coach Dunne and the Eagles!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 17, 2020, 08:13:49 PM
Halftime Potsdam 41 at Fredonia 29.  Jayquan Thomas leads the Bears with 16 pts in 16 minutes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2020, 08:28:12 PM
Plattsburgh leads Buffalo State 38-32 at the half.

The Bengals jumped out to an early 9-0 lead but the Cardinals shook off the bus legs and a 15-4 run put Plattsburgh in front by a deuce. From that point on it was 10 lead changes and 4 ties until Plattsburgh gained a slight advantage when Jeremy Eisenman hit a pair of free throws and then drained a three pointer in the Cardinals final possession.

Plattsburgh was led by Travis Cox with 9 points and 5 rebounds.  Afam Jaquish has 8 points and Eisenman has 7 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds


The Bengals get 8 points,3 boards and 3 assists from Sheldon Adams.  Jordan Christopher had 5 points and 5 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2020, 08:31:36 PM
Brockport leads Oneonta 38-28 at the break.

Justin Summers with 8 points and 5 rebounds to lead Brockport. Tyree Grimsley with 7 points and 5 rebounds.

Kevin Mackin with 8 points for Oneonta. Andres Rivera with 6 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 17, 2020, 08:34:57 PM
Geneseo 22 New Paltz 16 at the half.


Geneseo gets 5 points from Alex Merhige.

New Paltz gets 4 points from Nick Arthur.

I think they threw away the shot clock in this game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 17, 2020, 09:27:55 PM
Well, I certainly read that game incorrectly. The Eagles by 10 at the half and won by 20 vs Oneonta. They came to play tonight, great defensive effort all night and keeping their transition offense in sync all night. Oneonta is a good squad but didn't show the quickness to get up and down with the Eagles tonight. Enjoy tonight and get ready for NP tomorrow afternoon!!! Congrats Bport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 17, 2020, 09:44:23 PM
Potsdam 78 Fredonia 66 Final Bears to 10-3 overall 10-2 D-III, and take the lead at 5-1 in the SUNYAC with a win over 5-1 Brockport.
Jayquan Thomas with 27, and Isaiah Brown with 22 pts and 11 rebs.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 04:57:42 AM
Friday Final Scores

Brockport State 81 Oneonta State 61

Potsdam State 78  Fredonia State 66

Plattsburgh State 87  Buffalo State 85

Geneseo State 62  New Paltz State 53
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 04:58:43 AM
Plattsburgh State 87  Buffalo State 85

I knew this was going to be a close game, so it doesn't surprise me that it took an overtime period to decide the winner. The Cardinals got a 3 pointer from Travis Cox with 29 seconds left in regulation to tie the game at 72 and the Bengals couldn't get the game winner, with their final possession of the 2nd half.

The Bengals got a 3 pointer from Sheldon Adams to start the overtime period but the Cardinals got back to back layups from Travis Cox and Axel Rodriguez to retake the lead. Rodriguez added a free throw to his layup to make it 77-75. The Bengals' Kay Grant tied the score with a bucket inside, but Plattsburgh went back on top when Erik Salo grabbed an offensive rebound and got the putback. The Cardinals stretched the lead to 2 possessions when the Bengals missed on their end and Adam Jaquish hit two free throws for Plattsburgh. Down 81-77 with 2 minutes to play Buffalo State needed a score, but again, missed a layup inside and Plattsburgh got the rebound, which was then knocked out of play by the Bengals. The inbounds pass went to the Cards' Rodriguez who broke away from his defender and headed straight for the hoop creating a three on two for Plattsburgh. He scored as he collided with Grant, who was clearly positioned inside the restricted area. The ref underneath the basket called an offensive foul as Cardinal Coach Blaine expressed his displeasure with the call. The official at mid court then consulted with the official who made the call, and the ruling was then changed to a blocking foul on Grant, with the basket counting and a free throw coming. Rodriguex missed the free throw but his basket gave the Cardinals a 6 point lead at 83-77 with 1:39 to play. It proved to be too much for the Bengals to overcome as the Cardinals got another basket from Cox and hit just enough free throws down the stretch. Up 87-82 after Plattsburgh's Nick DeAngelis made 1 of 2 from the line with 4 seconds left, the Bengals got a 3 pointer from Sheldon Adams at the buzzer to make it a bit closer.

Plattsburgh shot 50% (33x66) from the field but only 17.4% from long distance (4x23). They were 68% from the line (17x25).  Buffalo State shot 39.2% from the field (31x79), 48.1% from distance (13x27) and 58.8% 10x17) from the line.
The Cardinals had a slight edge in rebounding 45 to 42 and both teams had 18 turnovers. Plattsburgh assisted on 22 baskets while Buffalo State had 20 assists.
 

Plattsurgh
The Cardinals had a big night from Travis Cox who managed a double-double with a team high 27 points and a game high 12 rebounds. He added 2 steals and 1 assist.

Adam Jaquish just missed a double-double with 15 points and 9 rebounds. He added 2 assits and a steal. He was nearly perfect going 4x4 from the field and 7x8 from the line.

Freshman Axel Rodriguez had 12 points,  a career high 4 steals, 3 rebounds and 1 assist.

Freshman Erik Salo also had 12 points, 5 rebounds, a career high 5 assists and a block.

Jeremy Eisenman had 9 points, a career high 5 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal in 17 minutes off the bench.

Nick DeAngelis had a career high 7 assists, 7 rebounds, 6 points, 3 steals and a block.



Buffalo State
Sheldon Adams was the game's high scorer with 30 points and he was close to getting a rare triple-double as he grabbed 9 rebounds, and dished out 8 assists. He also had a pair of steals.

Jordan Christopher had a double-double as he scored 19 points and matched the game high of 12 rebounds that Plattsburgh's  Travis Cox had.

Mark Worthy  came off the bench and had 12 points in 23 minutes of court time.

Freshman Aaron Davis had a career high 10 assists, 3 points, 3 rebounds and a steal.

Kay Grant had 7 points and 7 rebounds.

Jordan Morgan had 6 points and 5 rebounds in 18 minutes off the bench.

Plattsburgh improves to 5-8 overall and 2-4 in the SUNYAC. They will travel down to  Fredonia on Saturday at 4:00 PM to take on the Blue Devils.

Buffalo State drops to 3-6 overall and 1-4 in the SUNYAC. They will host Potsdam State on Saturday at 4:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 06:49:54 AM
Brockport State 81  Oneonta State 61

This game didn't have the drama that I thought it would have as Brockport used a 17-4 run and turned an early 5-0 deficit into a 17-9 lead with 12:53 left in the first period. The Red Dragons fought back and got as close as 30-27 but Port closed the half on an 8-1 burst, to lead at the break by double figures, 38-28.

Oneonta's Kevin Mackin opened the 2nd period with a pair of three pointers, one from distance and one the old fashioned way and suddenly we had a game as the score was just 38-34. Port scored 5 straight points and and then it was Oneonta's turn. It was 43-39 with 17 minutes to play and it looked like the game was heating up. Brockport took a timeout and whatever Coach Dunne told his troops must have sunk in because it quickly turned this game around in a big way. Brockport's Danny Ashley hit a jumper and Antonio Alvarez scored inside. Then Ashley drained a triple and Alvarez followed suit. Montgomery Stroman wanted in and he hit a three pointer, followed by another one from Alvarez. Stroman wasn't done though as he drained another one from long range and then followed that up with a drive inside. Suddenly it was a 21-0 run and this game was over with 11:02 to go. The score was 64-39. The Red Dragons had went 0-12 from the field, 0-2 from the line, and had a pair of turnovers, in the 4 minutes it took to go from 4 points behind to 25 points behind. Brockport's lead peaked at 26 points as they put this one in the win column early.

Brockport
Danny Ashley led the Golden Eagles with 15 points, 6 assists, 4 rebounds and 2 steals.
Montgomery Stroman had 13 points and 7 rebounds in 19 minutes off the bench
Antonio Alvarez had 11 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist in 17 min off the bench
Tyree Grimsley had 9 points, 9 rebounds and a steal in 21 minutes off the bench.
Devante Hagins had 9 points, 9 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.

Oneonta
Kevin Mackin captured scoring honors for the game with 17 points.
Andres Rivera had 14 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.
Joseph Bull had a game high 12 rebounds, 7 points, 4 steals and 1 assist.
Harrison Degan had 9 rebounds, 7 points, 4 assists, a block and a steal.     
Dylan Trombley had 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 points and a block.

Brockport was better in all 3 shooting categories...had 51 rebounds to 41 for Oneonta and only had 12 turnovers to 15 for the Red Dragons.

Brockport improves to 10-3 overall and 5-1 in the SUNYAC. They are tied with Potsdam for first place but the Bears hold the tiebreaker over Brockport by virtue of their win over Port last Friday night. Brockport will now host New Paltz at 4:00 PM today.

Oneonta falls to 8-4 overall and 4-1 in the SUNYAC. They are tied with Oswego for 3rd place at the present time and will travel to face Geneseo later this afternoon at 4:00 PM.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 11:36:30 AM
Jan. 18    All 10 teams in action todaywith tipoff at 4:00 PM in all 5 games   


Oneonta State  at   Geneseo State        4:00 PM

The Red Dragons will be belching fire and brimstone after the loss they absorbed yesterday. They will want to erase that memory as quickly as possible and nothing does that better that winning the next game.

Geneseo is hoping they can spring the upset here and strengthen their chances of getting a playoff spot. Oneonta won both games last year and hold a 6-5 edge in this series in the last 11 games.

The point spread favors the Red Dragons by a 6 point margin. I think they win by more than that. Oneonta 78 Geneseo 60.   


Plattsburgh State  at  Fredonia State       4:00 PM

Plattsburgh ended their 4 game losing streak and would like to start a streak in the other direction. They also need to win this game to keep their position for a playoff spot. Fredonia tasted victory in the YAC, earlier in the week and would like to end the week in the same fashion.

Plattsburgh is 13-1 against the Blue Devils over the past 7 years, but that 1 loss was what ultimately kept Plattsburgh out of the conference playoffs in the 2016-17 season. They don't need a repeat of that and yet could fall victim to the Blue Devils deliberate play.

The oddsmakers have listed Plattsburgh as 3 point favorites in this one. I see it as a close game also but believe the Cardinals can win by a few more. Plattsburgh 76 Fredonia 69.   



New Paltz State  at  Brockport State   4:00 PM

The Hawks are still searching for a conference victory. They won't find one today. Brockport is too deep and too talented to lose to New Paltz and the oddsmakers have made them a 22 point favorite for a reason.

Of course, that same logic was used last season and the Hawks barely lost to Brockport 65-63, last January 11th in the Hawk Center. Brockport didn't have their big gun, Justin Summers, for that game but still scratched out the win. Three weeks later, with Justin Summers back in Port's lineup, New Paltz won, in Brockport, 69-67. So you just never know. Can history repeat itself?...probably not....but I know a certain head coach that will likely be reminding his team of the law of probabilities. 

The Hawks could beat the spread and that would be a small victory in itself. I'm not sure they can do that either. Brockport wins this one 85-62 


Potsdam State  at  Buffalo State        4:00 PM

Potsdam would love to ride back to the North Country in first place. It would be the most enjoyable ride home the team has had, in at least 15 years. The bus will be rockin should that happen, but first there is a little matter of Buffalo State.

The Bears are currently tied with Brockport at 5-1 in the YAC, and if the tournament were held today, the Bears would be the top seed. Today, Brockport gets to play the last place team while the Bears get to play a team that has had their number for the past 10 years. During that time the Bears are 1-19 against the Bengals. That's the bad news....the good news is the 1 victory was last year so the Bears have a recent win and now they have some new talent to try and start a streak of their own against Buff State.

Buffalo State is in danger of falling further behind for the final playoff spot if they lose today and Plattsburgh or Geneseo win. They need to stay in contact with the teams they have to beat out for that position. An 0-2 weekend could put a big hurt on their hopes.

The experts have the Bears listed as a 9 point favorite. I tend to agree with that. Potsdam has never played well in the Sports Arena and hasn't won there in ages, usually scoring between 50 to 65 points, but this Bears' team is ready to end that drought. Potsdam 85  Buffalo State 76.     




Cortland State  at  Oswego State        4:00 PM

Cortland is looking to stay in touch with the leaders and a loss here could drop them 2 and a half games behind. Losing at home to Oneonta on Tuesday after leading for most of the game didn't sit well with the coaching staff. A win here, on the road, against their travel partner, will help soothe things over.

Oswego is 4-1 but really hasn't faced the meat of their YAC schedule yet, having beaten up on the bottom of the standings. The lone loss to Brockport on the road by a single point, tells the rest of the conference that they will be a major player once again. The Lakers have won 6 games in a row and have yet to lose at home all year. Of course that's partly because they've only played 2 games in Laker Hall, so far this season. Cortland and Oswego split their 2 games last year, but Cortland did win in Oswego. In fact, the Red Dragons have won in Oswego 4 times in the last 5 years and are 7-4 against the Lakers in that time.

The oddsmakers have listed Oswego as 4 point favorites in this game which should be a close one. I'm taking Oswego to win by an 82-77 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 04:48:57 PM
Fredonia leads Plattsburgh 38-32 at the half.

The Blue Devils grab an early 11-4 lead but Plattsburgh comes back to go in front 23-19. Fredonia reverses the score once again and takes a 32-25 advantage. Cardinals close to 32-30 but Fredonia ends the half with a perfectly executed 3 pointer at the buzzer to go up by 6.

Fredonia led by 11 points and 2 assists from De'Quan Smith. Moussa Samassa adds 7 points and Chad Biersbach has 6.

Plattsburgh gets 12 points from Axel Rodriguex who hits 4 of 7 from long range. Jeremy Eisenman has 8 points and 3 rebounds.  Travis Cox with 6 points.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 04:52:28 PM
Halftime score.

Oswego over Cortland 33-26

Brandan Gartland leads the Lakers with 11 points. Jeremiah Sparks with 9.

Eric Edwards has 8 points for Cortland and Austin grunder has 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 04:55:46 PM
Potsdam State leads Buffalo State 54-31 at the half.

Danny Delsol-Lowry and Isaiah Brown both have 13 for the Bears. Jayquan Thomas with 11.

Sheldon Adams with 10 and Kay Grant with 8 for the Bengals.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 05:01:09 PM
Brockport 35 New Paltz 33 at the break.

Brockport gets 11 points from Tyler Sullivan. Danny Ashley has 8.

The Hawks looking for another big upset of the Golden Eagles. They are led by Tristan Wissemann who has 10 points. Scott Reisert has 8 points and 5 rebounds.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 18, 2020, 05:05:21 PM
Oneonta leads Geneseo 65-38 with 12:19 to play in the game.

Joseph Bull with 25 points to lead the Red Dragons.

Alex Merhige with 14 for Geneseo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 19, 2020, 06:11:58 AM
Saturday's final scores.

Potsdam 99 Buffalo State 75

Brockport 88  New Paltz 59 

Oneonta 89  Geneseo 54

Oswego 68 Cortland 66

Fredonia 77 Plattsburgh 63
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 19, 2020, 07:42:37 AM
Whew. Momma said it would be days like this.  My beloved BENGALS gave one away Friday night ( congrats Plattsburgh) and Saturday spotted Potsdam a 29 pt lead in the first half.  Undoubtedly my guys are still finding thier way. 

I must say that the Potsdam team I saw yesterday looked very good and athletic. The Isaiah Brown kid is the real deal too.  Size, quickness and athleticism.....Potsdam has it all.

New Paltz is next on the schedule.  Here's to hoping a week of good practice works out the kinks. SUNYAC season is a 3rd of the way done. 2/3rds left.

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 19, 2020, 08:41:01 AM
I agree with you, Bengal. That Potsdam squad is complete with a legit stud in Isaac Brown. They are the team to beat in the YAC. I love my Eagles chances but an injury to Summers has sent them into reorganization mode. They are still a very good squad with talent; but this is a severe blow if Summers is out for an extended period of time.

I see the YAC as a 5 team race. Potsdam, Bport, Oswego, Cortland and Oneonta have the upper hand in this conference regular season title chase. Of course I am pulling for my Eagles but any of these 5 teams could finish with the top seed. It will be fun to watch this season play out. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 19, 2020, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 19, 2020, 08:41:01 AM
I agree with you, Bengal. That Potsdam squad is complete with a legit stud in Isaac Brown. They are the team to beat in the YAC. I love my Eagles chances but an injury to Summers has sent them into reorganization mode. They are still a very good squad with talent; but this is a severe blow if Summers is out for an extended period of time.

I see the YAC as a 5 team race. Potsdam, Bport, Oswego, Cortland and Oneonta have the upper hand in this conference regular season title chase. Of course I am pulling for my Eagles but any of these 5 teams could finish with the top seed. It will be fun to watch this season play out. Go Eagles!!!

I totally agree and any one of these teams can beat any of the others on a given night, Five well coached teams with some stars, and deep benches.  Cortland with three tough SUNYAC losses [Brockport, Oneonta & Oswego] starting to drop back in the standings with 3 losses 2-2&1/2 games back of the four one loss teams. Grunder vs. Sparks yesterday must have been a game to watch, both playing with 4 fouls at the end.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2020, 09:16:55 AM
Potsdam State newcomer Isaiah Brown didn't waste any time grabbing some honors in the SUNYAC as he was named the Player of the Week for the period of January 13th through the 19th.

In just his 2nd week in a Bears' uniform the sophomore transfer continued his torrid pace, as he has now scored over 20 points per game in the 5 games he has played for Potsdam. He is also averaging 9 rebounds per game, 2.2 blocks per game and 2.2 steals per game.

Here is the write up from the SUNYAC website.

"CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has named Potsdam's Isaiah Brown (Queens, N.Y.) the PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Brown helped the Bears to a 3-0 week and a share of first place in the conference standings. He averaged 22.7 points and 9.7 rebounds. He scored 21 points and grabbed five rebounds as Potsdam defeated Plattsburgh for the first time in eight years on Tuesday night. Brown then recorded his first career double-double with 22 points and 11 rebounds as the Bears downed Fredonia. He capped his week with his second double-double on 25 points and 13 rebounds as Potsdam won at Buffalo State for the first time in 13 years."

Congratulations to Isaiah for his great week on the court. I have a feeling it won't be his last POTW award.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 21, 2020, 05:17:40 PM
Just wondering--Where did Isaiah Brown play before Potsdam? He certainly was a tremendous pick up. He will be a dominate player in the YAC for seasons to come.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 21, 2020, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 21, 2020, 05:17:40 PM
Just wondering--Where did Isaiah Brown play before Potsdam? He certainly was a tremendous pick up. He will be a dominate player in the YAC for seasons to come.

According to the internet: Missouri State-West Plains, a junior college.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2020, 06:54:01 PM
Jan. 21        Three games scheduled today     

Penn State Shenango  at  Fredonia State    6:00 PM Re-Scheduled from Jan. 4

The Hawks are playing a USCAA school from a conference similar to our SUNYAC with all state schools. It's not as strong as the YAC but it depends on where you stand within your conference. If you're near the bottom of the SUNYAC playing a team near the top of the Penn State conference, there's a good chance you'll lose.

I know nothing about the Shenango Lions but their record is 4-10 and they're in the lower part of the standings.

Fredonia is playing some of their best basketball of the season and have won 2 of their last 3 games in the YAC. The point spread favors the Blue Devils by 7 points. I think they might win by a few more. Fredonia 75   Penn State Chenango 65


   
New Paltz State  at  Cortland State        7:30 PM

The Hawks are still looking to break into the win column in the SUNYAC and tonight's game will not be an easy spot to do that. New Paltz is just 3-9 against the Red Dragons over the past 6 years but strangely enough all 3 of those victories have come in Cortland so perhaps the Hawks are better off being the visitors tonight.

Cortland is coming off back to back conference losses and cannot afford to slip further behind the leaders if they have any hope of winning the top seed. The Hawks played Brockport even in the first half on Saturday but then got blown out in the 2nd half.

The oddsmakers have made Cortland a solid 21 point favorite in this game. The Hawks have lost 2 of their last 3 games by bigger margins than that. They also have only scored more than 59 points, once in their last 5 games. I see Cortland winning this one by an 85-62 final score and they could win by more than that.   



Oneonta  at  Oswego State                7:30 PM   Featured Game of the Night

The Lakers would like a share of first place. With Potsdam and Brockport idle they can match the 6-1 record that those two have put up and create a 3 way tie for the lead.
These Red Dragons would like a share of first place and can also match that 6-1 record if they come away with the W. The loser falls a full game behind and also suffers in the tiebreaker department, which I'm fairly certain will come into play, down the line this year.

This conference, this year, looks more like a top 5 and a bottom 5 than I can recall in recent years. And any one of the top 5 can get hot and win the conference tournament. Seeding will be important and so will home court.

Oswego is coming into this game with a 7 game winning streak and actually got a mention in the Top 25 this week after falling completely out when they suffered their only 2 losses, back to back, in early December. If they can win a few more a ranking is again a possibility.

Oneonta after losing 3 of their first 4 games, got back to playing like we thought they would and ran off 7 wins in a row. They suffered a setback at Brockport last week, but got back in the win column the next day and is looking to start another streak.

Oswego leads this series with a 10-5 record over the last 6 years, but the Red Dragons have managed to win a game each of the last 4 seasons. Tonight visiting Oneonta is listed as a 7 point underdog and they will need to bring their A game if they want to spring the upset in Laker Hall. Oswego is playing well right now and I think they win this game but Oneonta makes it a closer game than 7 points. Oswego State 77 Oenonta 73.           
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2020, 07:47:58 PM
Final score.

Fredonia State 62  Penn State Shenango 53.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2020, 08:17:22 PM
Oswego 35  Oneonta 33 at the break

Oswego got off to a slow start as Oneonta led 9-4, but the Lakers came back and tied the game at 9-9. Oneonta then put together a nice run fueled by Andres Rivera and Joseph Bull to open up a 10 point 24-14 lead. Then it was Oswego's turn and 9 points from Jeremiah Sparks and 6 points from Brandon Gartland fueled an 18-4 run to make it 32-28 in favor of the Lakers. They traded three pointers and Joe Bull hit a buzzer beating jumper to narrow the lead to just 2 points at halftime.

Joe Sullivan was big early on for the Lakers and leads the team with 11 points and 7 rebounds. Jeremiah Sparks has 9 points, 4 rebounds and 3 assists. Brandon Gartland has 8 points.

Kevin Mackin has 11 points to lead Oneonta and already has hit 3 shots from long range.
Joe Bull has 10 points and 4 rebounds.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2020, 08:27:27 PM
Cortland 38 New Paltz 33 at the half.

The Hawks got the early lead and were finally caught by the Red Dragons at the 14 minute mark at 9-9. Cortland went on a 14-4 run and went in front 23-14 with 10:35 left in the half. They extended the lead to 31-18 before the Hawks came back to close within 5 points at the break.

Cortland led by Austin Grunder with 13 points and 8 rebounds. Jake DiSanto with 12 points and 2 rebounds.

New Paltz led by Isaiah Bien-Aise with 10 points and 3 rebounds. Tristan Wissemann with 8 points.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 21, 2020, 09:00:11 PM
Oneonta 76 Oswego 66 Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 22, 2020, 03:07:25 AM
Cortland 90   New Paltz 79    Final score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 23, 2020, 11:49:02 AM
I have been away from this board for awhile, I have forgotten how the SUNY playoffs work; #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in first round at higher seed; #1 vs #4/#5 winner and #2 vs #3/#6 winner(at higher seed?) What happens if final game doesn't include #1 seed?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 23, 2020, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: scooterman on January 23, 2020, 11:49:02 AM
I have been away from this board for awhile, I have forgotten how the SUNY playoffs work; #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in first round at higher seed; #1 vs #4/#5 winner and #2 vs #3/#6 winner(at higher seed?) What happens if final game doesn't include #1 seed?

The 1 seed hosts both semifinals and the final
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 23, 2020, 12:28:13 PM
Yes 3 plays 6, 4 plays 5. on Tuesday at the higher seed.  If there is an upset and a 6 or 5 seed wins on Tuesday, they reseed for the semi's.
#1 gets the lowest surviving seed, and #2 gets the highest. 

http://sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bracket
 
If #1 loses in the semis on Friday, the championship game is still at #1 site, and the Friday winners will need to mostly provide their own crowd.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on January 23, 2020, 02:00:31 PM
I've been off the grid for a while.

Right Now it looks like My Oneonta Red Dragons will be Playing the Magicman's Potsdam Bears for the SUNYAC Championship.

I know there is still plenty of basketball to go, but this is wishful thinking on my part.

Would love to sit right next to my man at the Championship game.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 23, 2020, 05:17:42 PM
This Bear has been connected to Potsdam basketball for going on 50 years.

Too soon to tell, IMHO.  There are five good teams, all capable of beating anyone on a given day.
All of them are well coached, have one or more "stars" and are solid for the most part 8 or 9 players deep.

Those five teams are a combined 27-8 in conference after their first 7 conference games

Everyone still has 11 conference games to play, long season left to go.

I know that on 2/21 Oneonta plays at Potsdam, and the basketball alums are having their annual weekend in the snowy North Country.

SUNYAC is going to be interesting this year.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 23, 2020, 08:51:27 PM
I am truly enjoying watching the YAC on internet this season. I certainly hope we can get a second team in the NCAA's this season. Our nonconference record doesn't look to shabby, but its a crap shoot. Does anybody know the SUNYAC's NCAA record over the last 5 years? What do the rest of you guys think of our chances? I know alot of season left, but I think we should end up with at least 2 deserving teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 23, 2020, 09:48:07 PM
Here are the Power Rankings that simulate the info the NCAA committee will be looking at
[Regional Rankings from Matt Snyder, but they closely track NCAA committee criteria]:

Brockport 6-1 [Wins over Oneonta, Oswego, Cortland, Lost at Potsdam] - Regional Rank - 2
Potsdam 6-1 [Win over Brockport, Lost at Oneonta] - Regional Rank - 10
Oneonta 6-1 [Wins over Potsdam, at Oswego, Cortland, Lost at Brockport] Regional Rank - 13
Oswego 5-2 [Win over Cortland, Lost at Brockport, Lost to Oneonta] Regional Rank - 5
Cortland 4-3 [Lost vs. Oneonta, at Oswego, at Brockport] Regional Rank - 8

11 games to go, 5 teams bunched at the top.  Big weekend as Oswego and Cortland visit Potsdam and Plattsburgh.

They only way I see two bids for the SUNYAC, is if one of these teams goes on a run and winds up above 40 nationally, and top 4 in the east region, and then has a close loss in the finals of the conference tournament, otherwise, probably a one bid conference this year.

Just my humble opinion

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2020, 06:13:49 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 23, 2020, 11:49:02 AM
I have been away from this board for awhile, I have forgotten how the SUNY playoffs work; #3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5 in first round at higher seed; #1 vs #4/#5 winner and #2 vs #3/#6 winner(at higher seed?) What happens if final game doesn't include #1 seed?

Quote from: thebear on January 23, 2020, 12:28:13 PM
Yes .  If there is an upset and a 6 or 5 seed wins on Tuesday, they reseed for the semi's.
#1 gets the lowest surviving seed, and #2 gets the highest.

http://sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bracket
 
If #1 loses in the semis on Friday, the championship game is still at #1 site, and the Friday winners will need to mostly provide their own crowd.

bear,
Just a slight correction, I think.

You are right, regarding the pairing of the first round seedings....  3 plays 6, 4 plays 5, on Tuesday at the higher seed. #1 and #2 have a first round bye. Then the semifinals and final are played at the #1 seed on Friday and Saturday.   

However I don't believe they reseed after the first round. In the playoffs of the 2017-18 season these were the following seeds...#1 Plattsburgh, #2 Brockport, #3 Cortland, #4 Geneseo, #5 Oswego and #6 Oneonta. In the first round #3 Cortland lost to #6 Oneonta, and #5 Oswego beat #4 Geneseo. If they did reseed after the first round then #1 Plattsburgh would have played the #6 seed, Oneonta. However, they played Oswego, the #5 seed. The #6 seed, Oneonta, ended up playing #2 Brockport. So there was no reseed then. Now maybe you're telling me they changed it, but if you look at the link you posted:

http://sunyacsports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bracket

You will see that semifinal game #3 in the playoffs matches the #2 seed, who had a first round bye, with the winner of game #1 between the #3 seed and the #6 seed. Game #4 matches the #1 seed, who had a bye, against the winner of game #2 between the #4 and #5 seed. The SUNYAC powers that be, assumes the #3 seed will win game 1 and they will play the #2 seed in game 3. While the  #4 or #5 seed will end up playing the top seed. That assumption doesn't work if the #6 seed beats the #3 seed as it did in the 2017-18 season. Plattsburgh did not get to play the lower seed even though they were the top seed.

I remember having a long conversation with Coach Curle at the time about who he would rather play Oneonta or Oswego because I didn't want to play Oswego in the semifinal game and I thought that we were getting Oneonta because they were the 6th seed. It turns out it didn't matter because as Coach Curle said, we've got to beat 2 teams to win the championship, and that year we were fortunate to beat Oswego in the semis and Oneonta in the finals.

They may have reseeded when there were 8 teams making the tournament but since they switched to just the top 6 teams back in the 2012-13 season there have been no reseeding for the semifinals.
 
Just an additional note for scooterman's benefit. In  the 2015-16 season Plattsburgh was the #1 seed going into the tournament and got to host the semis and finals. They lost the semifinal game to Oswego and Cortland won the other semifinal game against Brockport. The championship game was still played in Plattsburgh, even though the Cardinals were eliminated. Cortland played Oswego on Plattsburgh's Memorial Hall court (I hope someday they'll call it Tom Curle Court). I watched the game and it was a great matchup as Cortland won it at the buzzer on a 3 pointer by James Morales.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on January 24, 2020, 09:24:41 AM
SUNYAC basketball does not re-seed after the first round. SUNYAC ice hockey does.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2020, 09:25:52 AM
Quote from: FranElia on January 24, 2020, 09:24:41 AM
SUNYAC basketball does not re-seed after the first round. SUNYAC ice hockey does.

Thanks Fran, for the definitive answer. 8-)  plus K
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2020, 03:49:13 PM
Jan. 24   Four games on tap for today in a big weekend of SUNYAC games.   

Cortland State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM

The Red Dragons bring the top rebounder in the nation, Austin Grunder, into Memorial Hall tonight and I have a feeling he'll continue to grab his average of 16.7 rpg and 22.9 ppg. They lost 2 games last week to Oswego and Oneonta to fall 2 games out of first place and won't want to drop any further behind, especially with another big game looming tomorrow against first place Potsdam.

Stopping Grunder will be hard so Plattsburgh will have to try and limit the other Cortland options and protect the three point line above all. The Red Dragons will hoist more from long distance, than they will from inside the arc and they have the shooters to do it. They make it hard to cover them all, as six players have made 16 or more three pointers. They have already made 173 triples this season and with a 40% success rate. By comparison, Plattsburgh has made only 102 three pointers. Oswego another team that loves the three point shot has 119.   

The Cardinals split last weekend and missed a golden opportunity to take over sole possession of the 6th playoff spot when they lost to Fredonia on Saturday. Now they have to work extremely hard, as Oswego follows the Red Dragons into town tomorrow. I've got no illusions about this weekend as the Cardinals are up against the proverbial wall. I will be extremely happy if we could somehow gain a split of these two games. The Cardinals need to get big games out of Travis Cox,Nick DeAngelis and Axel Rodriguez if they have any hope of pulling off upsets this weekend. Those 3 players combine for 57% of Plattsburgh's scoring and when they aren't getting their averages the drop off in scoring is noticeable. Other players aren't picking them up enough to make a difference.   

The teams have met 15 times in the last 7 years and the Cardinals have a 9-6 record in the series, during that time. Plattsburgh has won 3 of the last 4 and last year both games were decided by a total of just 6 points. The oddsmakers have made the Red Dragons a 12 point favorite in this one. I hope the Cardinals can cover the point spread. I think that Cortland wins this one by an 87-76 final score. Sure hope I'm wrong.         


Buffalo State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Bengals haven't won in a while and are on a 5 game skid. Unfortunately all five games are conference losses and after today's game they will face 4 of the top 5 teams in the YAC, in succession. They have to have a win here.

The same can be said of the Hawks. Winless in the conference and with the top teams headed their way for a 2nd meeting they have to get some wins from the also rans. So far they are 0-2 against teams in the bottom half of the standings. They have 6 games left with those teams and have to make the most of those chances. They also need to  pull off a few upsets of some contenders along the way, if they have any hopes of making the playoffs.

The Bengals are 9-5 over the last 7 years against New Paltz, but the Hawks have won 3 of the last 4, including both games last season. The point spread has New Paltz favored in this game by a slight margin of 2 points, perhaps because of their inspired effort against Brockport in the first half last Saturday. They will need to play well for both halves tonight. I think the Bengals win in a close game by an 81-77 final score.   



Fredonia State  at  Oneonta State        7:30 PM

Oneonta came back down to earth after Brockport snapped their 7 game winning streak last Friday night. After they dusted themselves off, the Red Dragons have come right back to tie for the lead in the YAC once again, by starting another streak with wins over Geneseo and Oswego. It's conceivable that after tomorrow, Oneonta could once again be in first place all by themselves. Of the teams tied at the top, they have an easier schedule than Potsdam, while Brockport only has 1 game this weekend and even with a win could still be a half game behind the Red Dragons.

Fredonia has won 3 of the last 4 games and is now all alone in 6th place and hopes to keep control of the final playoff spot. They will be pressured by Geneseo, Plattsburgh and possibly Buff State to do so. A game tomorrow against New Paltz will be huge for the Blue Devils. Oneonta looks to be a step up and Fredonia will need to play their very best, and then some, if they hope to pull off the upset in this matchup.

The Red Dragons are 12-2 in the last 7 years against Fredonia but the Blue Devils did pull off an upset 2 years ago in Fredonia. The experts don't think that will happen tonight and have made Oneonta a solid 19 point favorite in this one. I don't think that's enough. Last year the Red Dragons won by 43 points in Fredonia and 26 points at home. I think they win tonight's game by an 89-72 final score.       



Oswego State  at  Potsdam State         7:30 PM  Featured Game of the Night

Like Oneonta, the Bears are hoping to be in sole possession of first place after this weekend. They will have a much harder route to get there and even if they take care of business on their end, could still find themselves locked into a battle with the Red Dragons who currently own the tiebreaker over them. The Bears have quietly put together a nice 5 game winning streak, all conference wins, and now face two of the top teams for the first time.

The Bears have missed one of their new weapons who has been out since mid November and may not play again this season. Which is too bad because he was off to a great start. Coach Jim Bechtel uses the old Alfred E Neuman mantra... "What me worry?" Not a chance...he just went out and got another 6'6" athletic player who has stepped right into the spotlight. Isaiah Brown, the reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week is averaging 23 ppg and 9 rebounds per game, after signing on in early January. He was added to a roster that featured returning double digit scorers Jayquan Thomas and Danny Delsol-Lowrey. Coach Bechtel also brought in another exceptional player, 6'6" freshman big man, Tyrese Baptiste. Those three players, plus Brown account for 68 points per game and 27 rebounds per game. The Bears have 4 other players averaging double digit minutes per game. They will be a force to reckon with all season long as Brockport found out two weeks ago when Brown made his Potsdam debut and put 26 points and 7 rebounds up on the scoreboard enroute to an 86-70 win over the Golden Eagles. This weekend we'll see how real the Bears really are with back to back contenders coming to town.

Of interest is the fact that Potsdam lost to Oneonta 62-60, in Oneonta, back on December 7th on a last second shot. Potsdam didn't have their two top scorers in that game or their new addition Isaiah Brown. It's the only blemish on the Bears' conference record to date. I'm sure the rematch in Potsdam, on February 21st, is circled on Potsdam's calendar.

Oswego has suffered 2 tough losses in the YAC to Brockport and Oneonta. The loss to Brockport was by a single point in the final seconds when the Golden Eagles went to the line with 8 seconds to play and made 1 of 2. Oswego couldn't get the game winner on their final shot as Justin Summers got a block on the play and the game ended. Oneonta broke open a tight game on Tuesday night with 9:30 left to play. Up 50-48 The Red Dragons' Dylan Trombley hit 3 shots from downtown to power Oneonta to a 17-6 run that gave them the 76-66 win. It was the latest installment of a rivalry that has the Lakers leading 5-4 since Coach Conover took over the reins of the Oneonta program at the start of the 2016-17 season.

It was always tough to come North and sweep the weekend. it didn't happen too often. In the past it was Plattsburgh that was the main reason for that. This year it's the Bears that will keep opposing coaches working late. Coach Leone will have his troops ready for this battle, he always does when he comes North. The Lakers are 12-2 over the last 7 years against Potsdam but Coach Bechtel got his first win against the Lakers in his 2nd year as the Bears' coach. He broke a Potsdam losing streak to Oswego in 2018 and now will be looking for more. Tonight he may get it.

The oddsmakers have made Potsdam a slight 3 point favorite in this game and I'm going to have to agree with that assessment. I think the Bears may win by a few more. I've seen both teams play a number of times, but Potsdam has put a number of different lineups on the floor so it's hard to get an accurate picture. I know one thing though...this latest combination has been darn good and they've ripped off 5 straight double digit wins. Potsdam 80 Oswego 75.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 24, 2020, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: All-Time on January 23, 2020, 02:00:31 PM
I've been off the grid for a while.

Right Now it looks like My Oneonta Red Dragons will be Playing the Magicman's Potsdam Bears for the SUNYAC Championship.

I know there is still plenty of basketball to go, but this is wishful thinking on my part.

Would love to sit right next to my man at the Championship game.

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You never know...we may just be able to do that! 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2020, 08:40:22 AM
Thanks for all the pertinent information regarding the playoff system. I am looking forward to today's Bport- Geneseo matchup. I see that Geneseo has been down a little from year's past, but I certainly hope my Eagles aren't looking past them. They have that patient style that has always given them problems and keeps the game close. Hopefully, we come to play and pick up another win. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2020, 09:42:54 AM
Friday's final scores:

Oneonta State 81  Fredonia State 40

New Paltz State 83  Buffalo State 64

Potsdam State 77    Oswego State 67

Plattsburgh State 76  Cortland State 72



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 25, 2020, 02:02:03 PM
Jan. 25     Full slate of games today in the SUNYAC

Not a lot of time today so just some quick picks


Brockport State  at  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

Brockport favored by 13 points in this one but may not have their big gun. Justin Summers was absent in the last game and I'm not sure if he's back. Port's a deep team and can win without him. Brockport 80 Geneseo 64.
   
Oswego State  at  Plattsburgh State   4:00 PM

Lakers coming off a loss and won't want to go home with an 0-2 weekend. Plattsburgh coming off a much needed win with the upset over Cortland. Can they pull off another one? My heart says yes, but I know the odds are against it. The experts have Oswego listed as a 12 point favorite. The Cardinals were dogs yesterday by that same spread. I hope lightning strikes twice but the Lakers love to play in Memorial Hall, having won there 4 times in recent years. I think Oswego wins this one 79-69, but I hope I'm wrong. (It worked yesterday so I'll try it again ;D)   


Buffalo State  at  Oneonta State        4:00 PM

I thought the Bengals would go 1-1 on the weekend but the 1 in the win column was supposed to be yesterday's game. Oneonta will be a much tougher challenge. The oddsdmakers have the Red Dragons listed as a 17 point favorite. Hard to argue with that. It could be worse and I think it will be. Oneonta 102 Buffalo State 75.


Cortland State  at  Potsdam State            4:00 PM Featured Game of the Day

These Red Dragons need a win to stay in touch with the YAC leaders, one of which is Potsdam. Losing to Plattsburgh last night wasn't in the plans. Neither was going back home 0-2 on the weekend. The Bears better bring their A game because the Dragons will be breathing fire. Plattsburgh held Cortland below their averages in several key areas. These things tend to equal out so the Bears could be on the wrong side of that. Still I like the Bears in this game, as they are on a 6 game winning streak, all in the conference, and all by double digits. Potsdam listed as a slim 3 point favorite here but I think they win by a few more. Potsdam 85 Cortland 75.


Fredonia State  at  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

New Paltz got the monkey off their back with their first conference win last night. Now they are looking to start a streak. They may be in the right spot at the right time. The Blue Devils came crashing back to earth last night as Oneonta put a whooping on them 81-40. Still Fredonia can move back into playoff position with a win today and tie Plattsburgh for the 6th and final spot. They currently hold the tiebreaker over the Cardinals as well. The point spread for this game favors the home team Hawks by 4 points. I think the Hawks will win this one as well,....by a final score of 76-67.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 26, 2020, 09:56:09 AM
Potsdam completes a weekend sweep by handling both Oswego and Cortland at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium.  Soph Isaiah Brown had 59 points in the two games to go with 22 rebounds, as he led the Bears to two convincing wins; defeating the Lakers on Friday 77-67, and handling the C-Dragons on Saturday afternoon 83-73.

Bears finish the first half of the SUNYAC season at 8-1, tied for the lead with Brockport and Oneonta. 

Bears hold a convincing 86-70 home win over Brockport and lost at Oneonta to the O-Dragons 60-62 on a Ian Schultz jumper with :04 left. 

Bears played that December game in Oneonta without their two leading scorers, Isaiah Brown [25ppg 10 rpg] who joined the team in January, and Jayquan Thomas, [18 ppg 38 assts] who are both playing well these days.

Two Bears recorded milestones this past weekend as the senior backcourt duo of Danny DelSol-Lowry and Jayquan Thomas, both joined the 1,000 point club; Lowry on Friday and Thomas on Saturday.

Second Half of the season starts out with the Bears traveling to the Rochester area to take on Brockport next Friday and Geneseo on Saturday.  Brockport game could have a lot to say about who finishes atop the SUNYAC standings.

The weekend of Valentines day, the Bears have another tough road trip as they travel the I-81 corridor to face Cortland on Friday and Oswego on Saturday.

The weekend of February 21st hosts the final regular season home games for the graduatiing seniors, and a marquee matchup on Friday 2/21 sees the O-Dragons visiting Jerry Welsh Gymnasium. That is basketball alumni weekend at Potsdam.

Nice to see the Bears back in the hunt.  Second semester starts tomorrow so students will be back on campus and hopefully will turnout in force for the four remaining regular season home games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2020, 01:14:49 PM
Jan. 28            Just two games on the schedule for today

Geneseo State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

This is a big game for these two teams and could be a deciding factor in who gets the final playoff berth. Both teams have wins over Plattsburgh and New Platz, but the Blue Devils have a leg up with a win the first time these two met, back on January 14th. Geneseo needs to win tonight to even the tiebreaker or Fredonia, with a season sweep, will effectively add an extra game to their lead over the Knights.

Fredonia has won 4 of their last 6 games and is coming off their best stretch of basketball in 3 years. January of 2017 was the last time the Blue Devils won 4 of 6 games.

Geneseo has dropped 2 in a row to teams in the top spots and now has 3 games coming up against Fredonia, Plattsburgh and Buffalo State that are ones they'd like to win, to stay in the playoff race. They have lost 2 of the last 3 against the Blue Devils, one of them in double overtime and two weeks ago by a 64-62 score.

The experts see another close game and have made Fredonia a slim 2 point favorite on their home court. I'm not sure that the home court will matter here. I'll take Geneseo to win and split the season series. Final score... Geneseo 67  Fredonia 63
   

Brockport State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

Brockport looking to move into a 3 way tie for first in the SUNYAC as they are currently 7-1. a half game behind Potsdam and Oneonta who sport 8-1 records. Buffalo State is searching for answers and with Port, Oswego and Cortland on the horizon I don't think they will find them for a while.

Last Saturday the Bengals fought back from an 18 point deficit, midway through the 2nd half against Oneonta, to tie the game at 70-70 with 3:30 to go. The Red Dragons got a go ahead bucket and the Bengals missed on their end. Oneonta hit 4 free throws down the stretch and Buffalo State missed all 4 shots they took. Oneonta won 76-70 and it was the 7th loss in a row for the Bengals, a team that started the season 3-2.

Brockport is streaking again with 5 straight conference wins and may have to deal with the loss of their best player as Justin Summers has missed the last 2 games, after leaving the Oneonta game with only 12 minutes of playing time. A huge loss for Brockport if he can't return anytime soon. I'm hoping that isn't the case but heard it might be so. The Golden Eagles are talented and deep so if any team can lose a player like Justin and still win in this conference, it's Brockport.

The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 15 point favorite in this one and of course they don't know that the Golden Eagles are missing their star. Brockport hasn't really missed a beat as they have won their last 3 games by double digits without him. The Golden Eagles also love to play in the Sports Arena as they have won in Buffalo for the last 8 years.  Make that 9 years...Brockport 87 Buffalo State 70.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2020, 08:12:38 PM
Geneseo leads Fredonia 31-22 at the break.

Michael Gannon leads Geneseo with 8 points. Alex Merhige has 7.

Tyler Roberts has 5 points to lead Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2020, 08:32:38 PM
Brockport leads Buffalo State 47-28 at the half.

Jahidi Wallace leads Brockport with 10 points. Tyree Grimsley has 9 points and Devante Hagins has 8 points and 4 rebounds.

Argjend Imeri has 7 points for the Bengals. Jordan Christopher with 6 points and 9 boards.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2020, 09:08:43 PM
Geneseo State 58  Fredonia State 48    Final Score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 28, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
Brockport State 91  Buffalo State 68        Final Score
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on January 29, 2020, 11:30:29 AM
Potsdam State's Isaiah Brown has been selected as the SUNYAC Player of the Week for the period of January 20th through the 26th. It is the 2nd straight week he's received that honor.

Since he joined the Bears on January 10th, Potsdam has went undefeated and reeled off 7 conference wins in a row, all by double digits. There's no question he's been a big reason why. Averaging nearly a double-double with 24.9 ppg and 9.6 rpg he has never scored less than 21 points in his 7 games in a Bears' uniform. He also averages 2.2 steals per game and 1.8 blocks per game. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

"Posted: Jan 27, 2020 
CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has named Potsdam's Isaiah Brown (Queens, N.Y.) the PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

Brown averaged 29.5 points in a home sweep of SUNYAC powers Oswego and Cortland. He shot 47% from the floor going 6 for 12 from 3-point range and added a 17 for 21 performance from the free throw line. Brown grabbed 22 rebounds in the two games. On Friday night vs. 11-3 Oswego he scored 24 points, and on Saturday afternoon vs. 10-5 Cortland he scored a career high 35 points as the Bears swept two games to remain atop the SUNYAC standings with an 8-1 conference record at the halfway point of the season. Brown added 4 assists, 5 steals and 2 blocked shots in the two games. Since joining the Potsdam team in January, Brown has scored 20 or more points in all 7 games he has played."

Once again congratulations to Isaiah on a great week. Go Bears!
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 12:32:32 PM
Jan. 31   Four games on the schedule for tonight.
   

Cortland State  at  Fredonia State      5:30 PM

The C Dragons were vying for the conference lead 2 weeks ago. Now they're fighting to just make the playoffs. Fredonia can match Cortland with 5 wins with a victory tonight.
Oddsmakers have Cortland listed as a 12 point favorite in this one. Cortland won by 30 points, the last time they met on January 11th. This one will be closer...Cortland 80 Fredonia 65.   



Plattsburgh State  at  Geneseo State  7:30 PM

The Cardinals need this game if they want to stay in the hunt for a playoff spot. If Geneseo wins they will hold the tiebreaker over Plattsburgh by virtue of their season sweep. So, in a sense, this is an early playoff game for the Cardinals. The question is will they be healthy and have their missing starters back for this one. Geneseo got a big win on Tuesday to keep Fredonia from sweeping the Knights. A win tonight could give the Knights a leg up for that final playoff spot. The experts have made Geneseo a 5 point favorite in this one. I'm taking the Cardinals (no surprise there) to pull off the mild upset and win by a final score of 66-63.     



Potsdam State  at  Brockport State      7:30 PM  Featured Game of the Night

This game may determine the #1 seed in the playoffs, although Oneonta still has plenty to say about that. Potsdam already owns a win over the Golden Eagles, a season sweep would give them a nice advantage. If the Bears win they would basically have a two game lead over Port.

The Bears are on a 7 game winning streak....all of them conference games and all by double digits. The last time Potsdam won 7 games in a row was 2005, and they went to the Elite 8 that year. This year they would just like to get back to the Dance.

Brockport's won 6 in a row,  also all by double figures and they haven't missed a beat, even with their top scorer missing. Their ppg has actually went up slightly since they lost him and they continue to use a 9 and 10 man rotation. The last time the Golden Eagles lost was to Potsdam back on January 10th. They had no excuses that night, they just got outplayed. The Bears may be in for a big dose of payback tonight.

The point spread favors the Golden Eagles by a 5 point margin. It's hard to sweep a good team like Brockport but I think the Bears might be able to do that with a win tonight. The Bears' big new acquisition, Isaiah Brown, played his first game with Potsdam when the Bears met Brockport in the earlier game. He's now had an additional half dozen games to mesh and get more familiar with his teammates. And Brockport is missing their top scorer, who played and had 19 points in that first game. Potsdam won the first game by 16 points....this one will be closer but I still see Potsdam winning...by an 83-79 final score.         


Oswego State  at  Buffalo State      7:30 PM

The Lakers still have hopes of getting the top seed. Currently in 4th place, they get to play 2 of the teams ahead of them at home, the second time around. After this weekend they finish with 4 of their final 5 games in Laker Hall.

The Bengals hope to gain some confidence by knocking off one of the upper tier teams this weekend. Now at the bottom of the standings, it's an unfamiliar place for Buffalo State and one they would like to vacate. With Cortland up next, this weekend won't give them much of an opportunity.

The experts have listed the Lakers as 13 point favorites. They won the previous matchup by 20 in Oswego so that seems to be a fair assessment. I think that Oswego will win this one by an 85-70 final score.
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 04:58:44 PM
I see the D3hoops scoreboard is now showing the Buffalo State-Oswego State game as a 5:30 start instead of a 7:30 start.

Buff State's website is also showing it as 5:30 PM.

D3hoops showing Oswego-Fredonia as 4 PM start on Saturday but Oswego and Fredonia websites both showing that one at 2:00 PM.

Buffalo State-Cortland at 2:00 PM as well on Saturday.   
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 06:12:19 PM
Oswego leads Buffalo State 42-28 at the half.

Joe Sullivan with 11 points and 4 rebounds to lead Oswego. Jamal Achille has 10 points and 2 boards.


Buffalo State gets 8 points and 2 assists from Sheldon Adams. Aaron Davis has 6 points and 5 reounds.
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 07:32:31 PM
Oswego State 84 Buffalo State 69    Final Score.
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 08:22:01 PM
Plattburgh State leads Geneseo 38-23 at the half.

Cards break open a close game with a barage of 3 pointers led by Jeremy Eisenman who hits 3 in a row, followed by another one from Matt Bernhard to go up 18-8. Still up 20-12, Nick DeAngelis gets fouled on a 3 point attempt and makes all 3 free throws. The Cardinals get a steal and DeAngelis burys another deep three. A minute later Eisenmann hits another three and Marlon Todd comes off the bench to drain another one. The score was now 32-14 and Plattsburgh had an 18 point lead. They settle for the 15 point advantage at the break.

Jeremy Eisenman led the Cardinals with 14 points and 3 rebounds.
Nick DeAngelis had 6 points and 2 rebounds.
Matt Bernhard had 5 points


Elijah Wingfield led the Knights with 6 points.
Mike Gannon had 5.     
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 08:25:35 PM
Cortland State 82  Fredonia State 68   Final score.
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 08:34:14 PM
Brockport leads Potsdam 37-32 at the half.

Tyler Collins with 8 points and 4 rebounds to lead Brockport.  Jahidi Wallace with 6 points and 3 rebounds.

Danny Delsol-Lowry with 9 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds to lead Potsdam.  Jayquan Thomas and Aaron Armstrong with 6 points each.
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 09:14:49 PM
Plattsburgh State 68  Geneseo State 59     Final score
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Post by: magicman on January 31, 2020, 09:32:20 PM
Brockport State 77 Potsdam State 74 Final score
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 02:04:09 PM
Feb. 1      All 10 teams in action today. 2 games tip at 2 PM.

Schedule has the top 5 teams all playing someone in the bottom half of the conference. #1 Brockport against #6 Plattsburgh gets the Game of the Day distinction    

Only time for quick picks today.

Cortland State  at  Buffalo State        2:00 PM

The Red Dragons got back on the winning path last night. Should get another one here. Point spread has them favored by 12. I see Cortland winning this one 93-77.

Oswego State  at  Fredonia State        2:00 PM

Website says game starts at 2. D3hoops says it starts at 4. I'll go with the website.
Oswego in the 4th spot hoping to move up. Can't afford a loss here. Fredonia dropped into a tie for 7th with Geneseo after their loss last night. Experts have the Lakers favored by 14 after the Lakers won the first matchup by 23.  I'll take the Lakers by a few more....Oswego 75 Fredonia 59

Potsdam State  at  Geneseo State        4:00 PM

The Bears aren't happy over the finish of last night's game with Brockport. They need to forget about it and concentrate on today's game or the Knights will back door them to death. Bears only won by 10 in Potsdam. Geneseo needs an upset over a top 5 team to catch up to Plattsburgh. The oddsmakers have made the Bears a 12 point favorite in this one. I'm taking Potsdam to win this one by a 74-61 final score.

 
Plattsburgh State  at  Brockport State  4:00 PM  Game of the Day

The Cardinals took care of business last night and are now in sole possession of the 6th playoff spot by a game. Brockport got revenge against Potsdam and is in sole poseession of first place by a half game over Oneonta. The oddsmakers have the Golden Eagles as 20 point favorites to win this one. Hard to argue with that but I think the Cardinals will cover the point spread. Brockport wins this one 86-72 but I sure hope I'm wrong.   

Oneonta State  at  New Paltz State        4:00 PM

These Red Dragons looking to stay right on the heels of Brockport as they get ready for that big showdown next weekend. Oneonta can't look past the Hawks here who would love to pull off an upset to make their season. They only lost by 8 points earlier and think they can play with Oneonta. The point spread favors the Red Dragons by 13 points. I think they win by a few more. Oneonta 88 New Paltz 71
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 02:37:32 PM
Oswego leads Fredonia 47-33 at the half.

Julien Crittendon and Jeremiah Sparks both have 13 points to lead Oswego, and Sparks has 4 rebounds. Joe Sullivan with 11 points and 4 rebounds.

Fredonia gets 8 points from Tyler Roberts and 6 points from De'Quan Smith.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 02:45:03 PM
Cortland with a big lead over Buffalo State at the break as they are up 61-34.

Cortland gets 20 points from Jake DiSanto who is on fire from long distance, hitting 6 of 9 from downtown. Austin Grunder has 14 points and 6 rebounds. Brendan Fitzpatrick with 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 points and a steal.

Kay Grant has 7 points and 7 rebounds to lead the Bengals. Argjend Imeri also has 7 points.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 03:54:07 PM
Oswego State 85   Fredonia State 68   Final score.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
Cortland State 100  Buffalo State 73  Final score.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 04:52:25 PM
Brockport with a big lead 47-26 over Plattsburgh at halftime.

Tyler Collins with 11 points, 4 assists and 2 rebounds. He is 3x3 from long range.
Antonio Alvarez is also 3x3 from distance with 9 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.
Danny Ashley with 9 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists.
Jahidi Wallace with 9 points and 3 rebounds.

Axel Rodriguez has 7 points and 2 steals to lead Plattsburgh.
Travix Cox has 6 points and 3 rebounds.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 04:56:23 PM
Potsdam leads Geneseo 38-24 at the break.

Jayquan Thomas has 16 points to lead the Bears.
Tyrese Baptiste has 8 points and 6 boards.
Aaron Armstrong with 6 points and 6 rebounds.

Michael Gannon and Sean Crowley both have 5 points to lead Geneseo.
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Post by: thebear on February 01, 2020, 05:01:41 PM
Oneonta leads New Paltz at the Half 43-33.  Big news is Joseph Bull started and only played 2 mins in the first half for the O-Dragons.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 05:04:55 PM
Oneonta 43 New Platz 33 at halftime.

Andres Rivera with 10 points and 5 rebounds to lead Oneonta.
Dylan Trombley with 8 points and 2 assists.
Harrison Deegan with 9 assists, 2 points and 2 rebounds.
Carson Jacobs with 7 points and 3 rebounds.
Kevin Mackin with 7 points also.

Tyreik Frazier with 11 points and 3 rebounds to lead New Paltz.
Scott Reisert with 6 points and 3 rebounds.

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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 05:43:42 PM
Brockport State 93   Plattsburgh State 71  Final score.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 05:46:00 PM
Potsdam State 68 Geneseo State 59  Final score.
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Post by: magicman on February 01, 2020, 05:50:41 PM
Oneonta State 77 New Paltz State 71  Final score.
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Post by: Bengalsrule on February 03, 2020, 01:41:04 PM
Things have got to get better for my BENGALS.

Keeping HOPE ALIVE.

GO BENGALS!
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Post by: scooterman on February 03, 2020, 03:45:26 PM
I have been on a 7 day cruise and got back in town last night. Super time and got the good news that my Eagles moved into 1st place in the SUNYAC by themselves. Nice week of basketball and I missed them all.(LOL) They have really stepped their play up since Justin Summers went down. Hope he returns soon but the Eagles just need to keep on going after it. Congrats on your big week!!! Don't sleep on anybody!!!
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2020, 03:39:03 PM
Two big games that mattered last weekend:

Plattsburgh State 68  Geneseo State 59

Good game between two teams fighting for a playoff berth. Plattsburgh behind Jeremy Eisenman's three point barrage shot out to an 18 point first half lead and led by 15 at the half. Geneseo hung tough and chipped away at the lead until they came within 2 points at 43-41 with 13:17 left to play. Plattsburgh used a 9-3 burst to open some daylight but the Knghts came back with a 9-2 run of their own to trail by a single point at 54-53 with 6:48 left. Travis Cox then scored 5 straight points, first on a pair from the line and after Geneseo missed a three on their end, Cox buried a three for the Cardinals. Agan the Knights missed from long range and Axel Rodriguez gave Plattsburgh an 8 point lead by sinking 2 free throws with 5:08 remaining. Geneseo never got closer than 5 points after that.

Jeremy Eisenmann came off the bench to match his career high of 18 points and also had 5 rebounds. He was 7x9 from the field and 4x6 from long distance.
Travis Cox just missed a double-double with 14 points and a game high 9 rebounds. He added 3 assists and a steal.
Nick DeAngelis had 10 points, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 assists.


Michael Gannon led the Knights with 15 points and 5 rebounds.
Elijah Wingfield had 12 points, 2 rebounds, an assist and a steal in 25 minutes off the bench.
Joseph Harclerode had 10 points, and a team high 7 rebounds.

Plattsburgh outshot the Knights in all three areas and had a slight edge in rebounds 32-30. The Knights had 13 turnovers while the Cardinals had 14.

The win gave Plattsburgh a leg up for the 6th and final playoff spot. Both teams lost on Saturday as did Fredonia so Plattsburgh has a 1 game lead over the Knights and Blue Devils with a 4-7 conference record to a 3-8 record for the other two.

This coming Friday's game between Plattsburgh and Fredonia will be huge for both teams.


Brockport 77 Potsdam 74

The battle for first place on Friday night didn't disappoint as these two teams went back and forth down to the last second. Brockprt led for the entire first half by as may as 9 points on several occasions and ended up with a 5 point 37-32 lead at the half.

Potsdam never lost touch with the Golden Eagles and continued to trail, until the Bears, down 43-37 with 16:25 to play, went on an 11-0 run over the next 3 minutes, to jump in front 48-43. Now it was Brockport who became the pursuer and it took them 4 minutes to reclaim the lead at 53-52 with 9:40 remaining. 6 lead changes and 6 ties would follow until the Bears Isaiah Brown went to the line with the score tied at 72-72 and 43 seconds left to play. He made both freebies to put Potsdam in front and on Brockport's possession Jahidi Wallace was fouled and went to the line for a pair. He missed the first, made the 2nd and now the Bears had possession and the lead with 31 ticks left. They just needed to get the ball inbounds and over the timeline. Brockport would have to foul and the Bears with some free throws could put this one in the win column. Brockport pressured the inbounds pass and Potsdam in danger of a 5 second call made a long pass downcout that was picked off by Monty Stroman. Stroman then made a layup 5 seconds later to put the Golden Eagles in the lead 75-74. Potsdam came down dribbled the clock down to 5 seconds and took a 3 point attempt that was no good. Port got the rebound, Potsdam fouled and Tyler Collins tacked on 2 free throws. With 3 seconds left Potsdam inbounded the ball on a long pass to their end and call a quick time out with 2 seconds left. They ran a play that gave Isaiah Brown a 3 point shot from the corner that came up empty, and Brockport had their position at the top of the SUNYAC standings once again. Great ballgame and good effort from both teams.

Brockport
Jahidi Wallace led all scorers with 22 points and he added 8 rebounds.
Tyler Collins had 16 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals.
Danny Ashley had 11 points, 5 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal.
Monty Stroman had 11 points, 6 rebounds, 3 steals and a block.

Potsdam
Isaiah Brown led the Bears with 16 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.
Danny Delsol-Lowry had 14 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals.
Tyrese Baptiste had a double-double with 13 points and a game high 17 rebounds. He added 4 blocks and a steal.
Jayquan Thomas had 13 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.
Aaron Armstrong had 9 points, 8 rebounds and a block.

Shooting stats were fairly even with Port a little better from the field and Potsdam with an edge from the line. Rebounding was also tight with 50 for the Bears and 48 for Port. The Golden Eagles won the turnover battle with just 10 giveaways to 17 for Potsdam. The last of the Bears' turnovers was the one they'd like to have back.

Brockport at 10-1 has a half game lead over Oneonta and will meet up with the Red Dragons on Friday evening, most likely with first place on the line. The Golden Eagles will take on Fredonia first today at 4 PM in a game they are heavily favored.

The Bears travel to Plattsburgh for a game on Tuesday night.

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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2020, 05:11:25 PM
Feb. 4      Four games on the schedule for tonight.
   

Brockport State  at Fredonia State        7:30 PM

The Golden Eagles are back on top and need to be careful of a letdown here. Fredonia has surprised teams in the past. This is Fredonia's first meeting with Brockport this year and if last year is any indication the Blue Devils are in trouble as Brockport won by large margins both times. Port has won the last 7 times they've played but the Blue Devils did have a big upset back in 2015 at home. They are hoping for a repeat of that performance.

The experts have Brockport listed as a 17 point favorite. I think they win by a few more. Brockport 87 Fredonia 66.


Geneseo State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

The Bengals and Knights are also meeting for the first time this season. Both have been struggling and putting one in the win column tonight will be a welcome occasion. Buffalo State is on a 13 game losing streak which is their longest such streak in at least 13 years, but probably even longer than that. Geneseo has dropped their last 2 and 4 of their last 5 but they need a win to keep Plattsburgh in sight.

The oddsmakers have made Geneseo a slight 2 point road favorite to win and I also think it will be a close game. The Knights have more to play for at this point so I'm taking them. Geneseo 67 Buffalo State 64.     


Potsdam State  at  Plattsburgh State   7:30 PM

The Bears haven't swept the Cardinals is a season series in a long time. The 2008-09 season, over a decade ago, was the last time that it happened. This might be the year they do it again.

The Bears are just a game out of first place with a 9-2 SUNYAC record and but for an errant pass, could just as easily be in first place all by themselves. They can still win the top seed in the conference but now they will need some help to do so.

Plattsburgh has the 6th and final seed for now, but keeping it will be a challenge as the teams head into the home stretch. Both teams went 1-1 last weekend beating Geneseo and losing to Brockport. Plattsburgh lost their first game to Potsdam by 19 points and was down by 15 at the half. They will need to do a better job of protecting the paint, as the Bears scored inside early and often, to jump out to an early lead. Then they started draining 3 pointers as they had 7 in the first half.

The oddsmakers have listed the Bears as 12 point favorites. I hope the Cardinals can cover the point spread but I don't think they win this one. Potsdam 88 Plattsburgh 74. Sure hope I'm wrong.   





New Paltz State  at  Oswego State        7:30 PM

The Lakers are sitting in 4th place all alone but haven't conceded anything to the teams in front of them, just yet. They still get to play those three teams again and hope to even the score. Tonight they get the Hawks who are struggling in the conference with a 1-9 record. The point spread favors Oswego by 20 points and it's hard to see the Lakers dropping this game. They won the first time in the Hawk Center by 25 points. I see them winning at home by a similar margin.  Oswego 86  New Paltz 63. 
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Post by: magicman on February 04, 2020, 10:46:05 PM
Tuesday's final scores:

Brockport State 88  Fredonia State 60

Geneseo State 79  Buffalo State 76

New Paltz State 55   Oswego State 80

Potsdam State 89    Plattsburgh State 82
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Post by: magicman on February 05, 2020, 04:22:05 AM
Potsdam State 89    Plattsburgh State 82

Good game at Memorial Hall tonight between the Bears and the Cardinals. The Cardinals scored first but that would be the last time they had the lead. Potsdam quickly shot out to an 11-4 lead and lengthened it to 18-9 with 14:14 left in the half. Cards would come back and close to 20-17 but Potsdam went back up by 10 at 31-21. The Bears lead would grow to a game high 14 points at 37-23 with 4:38 remaining in the period. Plattsburgh was able to get it back to single digits at 44-36 as Adam Jaquish scored inside with a second left in the half.

Potsdam continued to lead by a comfortable margin that hovered between 7 and 13 points for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd period. Plattsburgh, down by 11 at 62-51, used a 10-2 run to cut the margin to 3 points at 64-61 with 9:55 to go. That was as close as they would get. The Bears used an 11-3 run to once again lead by 11 points at 75-64 with 5:31 left. Travis Cox hit a 3 pointer for the Cardinals to get within 5 points but Isaiah Brown answered for Potsdam and the Bears hit their free throws down the stretch to close the game out.       

Potsdam
Isaiah Brown had a game high 37 points and 9 rebounds.
Jayquan Thomas had 15 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block.
Tyrese Baptiste had a double-double of 14 points and a game high 12 rebounds. He added 2 steals and 2 blocks.
Ahamadou Sillah had 11 points and 6 rebounds.
Danny Delsol-Lowry had 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 points.
Aaron Armstrong  had 7 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists and a block.

Plattsburgh
Travis Cox had 28 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, a steal and a block.
Axel Rodriguez had 19 points, 6 assists, 3 rebounds and 3 steals.
Adam Jaquish had 10 points in 14 minutes off the bench.
Matt Bernhard had 7 points in 18 minutes off the bench.

The teams shooting percentages were fairly even, but Potsdam had a big advantage on the boards, 45-34. Turnovers were also about the same with 14 for the Bears and 13 for Plattsburgh.

Potsdam improves to 15-4 overall and 10-2 in the SUNYAC. They are in 3rd place in the standings They will host Buffalo State on Friday night at 7:30 PM.

Plattsburgh drops to 7-12 overall and 4-8 in the SUNYAC. They are now tied with Geneseo for 6th place. They will host Fredonia on Friday at 7:30 PM   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 05, 2020, 05:47:44 PM
I watched the Bport-Fredonia matchup last night. It was a single digit lead by the Eagles for most of the first half with T. Collins knocking down a 3ptr at the buzzer to up the lead to 11 points. The second half the Eagles extended the lead and emptied the bench in the final 3 minutes, going beyond their usual 10 rotation players. Another great team effort for the Eagles. Congrats !!!!!
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Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 06, 2020, 01:52:23 AM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2020, 10:12:47 AM
Feb. 7        Four games on tap for tonight, if the snowstorm doesn't cancel any    

Geneseo State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

The Knights are hoping to keep pace with Plattsburgh and stay ahead of Fredonia for the final playoff spot. They won their last game at Buffalo State on Tuesday night and that gives them 3 road wins, having also won at Plattsburgh and Fredonia.

The Hawks will have to string together some wins if they have any hope of making the playoffs. A loss here and tomorrow against league leader Brockport, could virtually eliminate them from playoff contention.

The teams have split their season series in 3 of the last 5 years, including the last 2 seasons, but the Knights hold a 7-3 edge over that time span. The experts have made the Knights a slim 1 point favorite in this one. I'm taking Geneseo to win by a 68-63 final score.
   

Fredonia State  at  Plattsburgh State        7:30 PM

This game has major implications on the final playoff spot since Fredonia already has a win over the Cardinals. A win tonight would give the Blue Devils a leg up as they would own the tiebreaker over Plattsburgh.

Whoever wins this game could find themselves all alone in 6th place. Or there could be a 3-way tie in which case Fredonia would currently hold the tiebreaker over the other 2 teams.

Plattsburgh is coming off a tough loss to Potsdam while the Blue Devils got blitzed by Brockport. The Blue Devils have lost 3 in a row and 8 of their last 9 games. They need a win here if they want to stay in the playoff race. Plattsburgh is 3-4 in their last 7 games and are looking to go 2-0 this weekend to become the frontrunner for the 6th seed.

The last time Fredonia swept the season series against Plattsburgh was 8 years ago in 2011-12 and Plattsburgh holds a big edge in the won-lost column since then.

The oddsmakers have listed Plattsburgh as the favorites in this game by a 7 point margin. That may be a few too many. I see the Cardinals taking this game by a 72-67 final score.
   

Brockport State  at  Oneonta State      7:30 PM Featured Game of the Night

The big game of the night is for sole possession of first place in the SUNYAC. The big question is... will Oneonta have one of their top weapons...Joe Bull. He left the last game the Red Dragons played, after only 2 minutes of playing time and did not return. I've had a number of people ask me if he's injured but I haven't heard anything so I won't know until gametime what his status is.

Brockport won the first meeting against Oneonta by a 20 point margin. That was the game that Brockport lost Justin Summers. They held the Red Dragons to 61 points in that game and will look to do more of the same tonight. Port is coming off a win over Fredonia on Tuesday and has now won 9 in a row, all by 15 to 29 points, except for the barnburner against Potsdam last Friday. The Golden Eagles are getting some votes in the  D3hoops Top 25 poll and a win tonight will boost them a little higher. Losing a top scorer like Summers would put most teams' playoff aspirations on hold, but the Eagles have barely missed a beat and with their depth have been playing like the well oiled machine that they are.

Oneonta has also been playing well and after an inexplicable 1-3 start to the season, have ripped off 12 wins in the last 13 games, including their last 5 in a row. The only blemish is that loss to Brockport.

Brockport holds a 7-4 edge in the last 5 seasons and has won the last 3 games in this series. The oddsmakers have Brockport favored by just 2 points. I don't know if Oneonta will be shorthanded or not but I would have picked the Golden Eagles anyway. Brockport wins this one 86-81.           


Buffalo State  at  Potsdam State                7:30 PM

The Bears were in my hometown on Tuesday night and I was impressed. I think they will be the playoff team to watch out for. They have a starting 5 that is perhaps the best in the league. They have went toe to toe with Brockport (a win and a loss) and certainly held their own and they only lost in Oneonta on a last second shot without their two leading scorers. When Oneonta goes to Potsdam on February 21st the Red Dragons could be in for a very rough time. Potsdam is 15-4. One of those 4 losses is to Division I University of Albany. The other 3 losses were by a total of 8 points and all came down to the last few seconds. With a bit of luck the Bears could be undefeated in D3 competition and be 18-1. That would have put them in D3hoops Top 10, I believe.

Buffalo State traveled to the North Country on Thursday as they usually do for this, the longest of their weekend trips. Good thing because we're supposed to get a foot to a foot and a half of snow today. I may be watching the Cardinals play Fredonia from my living room instead of courtside.

The Bengals will have to play their best game of the year tonight and it still may not be good enough. Their long losing streak has reached 11 games and Potsdam is favored in this game by 23 points. They won the first meeting by 24 points in Buffalo. I think tonight's score will be... Potsdam 102 Buffalo State 73.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2020, 08:07:20 PM
Fredonia leads Plattsburgh 35-32 at the half.

Live stats not working so no player info to report.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2020, 08:13:15 PM
Buffalo State leads Potsdam State 38-34 at the half.

Same problem here as in the Plattsburgh game. No live stats. Shows the lineups ut not a single stat.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2020, 08:28:23 PM
Lemme try this again:

Fredonia State 35 Plattsburgh State 32 at halftime.

Live stats just came on line with first half results.

Fredonia jumped out to an early 11-4 lead and the Cardinals spent the entire period playing catch up. Fredonia's biggest lead was 22-14.  They almost tied the game several times but the Blue Devils always had an answer to any Plattsburgh comebacks.

De'Quan Smith was high for Fredonia with 10 points.
Chad Biersbach had 9 points and 6 rebounds.


Travis Cox had 7 points and 3 rebounds.
Nick DeAngelis had 7 points and 4 rebounds.
Erik Salo had 6 points and 6 rebounds. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2020, 08:34:13 PM
Looks like it's Brockport 36 Oneonta 35 at the half.

Tyler Collins with 9 points to lead brockport.
Tyree Grimsley with 8 points and 5 rebounds.

Harrison Deegan with 11 points to lead Oneonta.
Andres Rivera with 10 points and 5 rebounds.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 07, 2020, 08:36:03 PM
Geneseo leads new Paltz 46-41 early in the 2nd half.

Again live stats not working.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 12:18:49 AM
Plattsburgh State 71 Fredonia State 65 Final score.

I had the Cardinals winning this one 72-67. My guys didn't let me down. They almost matched my prediction. The Cardinals trailed in this game for over 32 minutes. Down 50-42 with 10:43 to play, Plattsburgh went on a 14-2 tear and finally got their first lead of the night at 54-52 with 6:32 left in the game on back to back buckets by Cameron Ness. Cameron added another basket to make it 56-52 and when Fredonia crept closer he added his fourth basket in a row for Plattsburgh to make it 58-54. He also had 5 rebounds during that stretch. It took the Cardinals a long time to get the lead and once they had it they never let it go. Fredonia scored to get within 2 points but Nick DeAngelis got a hoop and harm to build the lead back to 5. The Cardinals hit 8 of 9 from the line to close out the Blue Devils.   

Plattsburgh
Big game from Freshman Cameron Ness with a double-double of 16 points and 12 rebounds, along with 4 blocks. He was the game's high scorer and leading rebounder as well. The 12 rebounds matched his career high.
Nick DeAngelis with a double-double of 13 points and 11 rebounds. He also had 4 assists.
Travis Cox also had 13 points along with 5 assists, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.
Axel Rodriguez had 11 points, 5 assists and 2 rebounds.
Erik Salo had 8 points, 8 rebounds, an assist, a block and a steal.
Matt Bernhard had 6 points in 13 minutes with 2 huge 3 pointers.
Jeremy Eisenmann had 6 rebounds, 4 points, an assist and a steal.

Fredonia
Dydy Bryan led the team with 14 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals.
De'Quan Smith had 12 points, 5 rebounds, 4 steals and 2 assists.
Tyler Roberts had 11 points and 4 rebounds.
Moussa Samassa had 9 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, a block and a steal.
Chad Biersbach had 9 points and 7 rebounds

Plattsburgh won this game at the line as they went 17-21 (81%) from the stripe. Fredonia only had 6 attempts and made 4 of them (66%)
The other shooting stats were fairly even.
Rebounds were close as the Cards enjoyed a slight 44-42 edge
Turnovers were even as both teams had 12 giveaways.

Plattsburgh improves to 8-12 overall and 5-8 in the SUNYAC. They are tied with Geneseo for the 6th and final playoff spot but presently hold the tiebreaker over the Knights. They will host Buffalo State on Saturday afternoon at 4:00PM.

Fredonia falls to 7-13 overall and 3-10 in the YAC. They will travel over to Potsdam for a Saturday afternoon contest with the Bears.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 12:40:03 AM
Brockport 85 Oneonta 75.

The Golden Eagles come away with sole possession of first place and will be very hard to beat even with another loss. The sweep of Oneonta gives them a leg up on Potsdam and Oswego should either of those teams end up in a tie with Brockport.

Tyler Collins 22 points, Jahidi Wallace 15 points, and Tyree Grimsley with a double-double of 16 points and 11 rebounds were the big guns for the Golden Eagles tonight.


The Red Dragons' Andres Rivera captured scoring and rebounding honors with his double-double of 25 points and 12 rebounds.
Harrison Deegan had 23 points and 5 assists. Kevin Mackin had 11 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 11:21:43 AM
Other Friday scores:

Potsdam State 73  Buffalo State 67

Geneseo State  72  New Paltz State  57

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
Feb. 8        Everyone in action today

Not much time today so just some quick picks.   

Geneseo State  at  Oneonta State     4:00 PM

Knights are road dogs by 13 points. Even without Joe Bull the Red Dragons should win this one. Oneonta 80 Geneseo 69


Brockport State  at  New Paltz State  4:00 PM

The Golden Eagles sittin pretty atop the YAC. Coach Dunne will make sure they don't take the Hawks lightly. Experts made Port 20 point favorites. That may not be enough. Brockport has won 10 in a row and 9 of them by large margins.  Brockport 89 New Paltz 66.


Buffalo State  at  Plattsburgh State     4:00 PM

These teams battled through an overtime period before a winner emerged and it was the Cardinals by an 87-85 final score. I expect another close game that will be decided in the final possessions. The Bengals have got to be the unluckiest team in the country over the last 2 years with the number of close decisions they have dropped. I hope Lady Luck stays away for one more game and then moves in to the Buff State locker room for the rest of the year. Plattsburg hoping to be in sole possession of 6th place at the end of the day. Will have to work hard today after working hard yesterday. The Bengals worked hard as well and almost sprung the upset at Potsdam, where they led by 5 points late in the game. Again no luck as Potsdam rallied for the win.

The oddsmakers have Plattsurgh favored by 6 points. I think it might be a little closer and see a final score of Plattsburgh 79  Buffalo State 76



Oswego State  at  Cortland State     4:00 PM Featured Game of the Day

Another game that is tough to call between the 4th and 5th place teams in the conference. Oswego still has some hope of winning the top seed. Cortland, with 5 losses already, just wants to improve their position if possible. They also would like a little revenge over the Lakers for the close loss they suffered in Oswego 3 weeks ago. Cortland leads 6-5 in the last 11 meetings.

The experts have made Cortland a slim 2 point favorite in this one, but I like the Lakers to sweep the season series. Oswego 75 Cortland 71


Fredonia State  at  Potsdam State     4:00 PM

Fredonia hoping to go home with a 1-1 weekend visit to the North Country after a loss yesterday to Plattsburgh. They'll have to shoot lights out and hope the Bears can't. The experts favor the Bears by 21 points but the Blue Devils are capable of pulling off the upset. Capable, but not probable. Potsdam 86 Fredonia 66. 

   

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 04:42:50 PM
Buffalo State leads Plattsburgh 49-44  at the half.

Teams fight it out early until the Bengals open up a 13 point lead at 49-36 with 2:36 to play. Cardinal end the half on an 8-0 run to get within 5.

Buffalo State gets a big first half from Jordan Christopher with 17 points, 3 rebounds, 2 steals and a block. 
Sheldon Adams with 12 points, 5 assists and 2 rebounds.

Plattsburgh gets a big effort from Erik Salo who has 18 points, 4 rebounds and a block.
Matt Bernhard comes off the bench to hit 2 big treys.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 04:52:20 PM
Cortland 35 Oswego 34 at the half.

The Lakers had the early double digit lead in this one up 19-8 but Cortland came back and took the lead 27-26 on an Eric Edwards layup with 3:37 left in the period. They traded baskets right down to the buzzer as Austin Grunder hit a three pointer as the clock hit 0:00 to give the Red Dragons the halftime lead.

Austin Grunder leads Cortland with 14 points, 7 rebounds and 2 assists.
Ertic Edwards with 6 points.

The Lakers get 13 points and 4 rebounds from Joe Sullivan.
Brandan Gartland with 9 points and Liam Sanborn with 8.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 05:26:17 PM
Oneonta leads Geneseo 54-25 with 11:26 left to play.

Brockport leads New Platz 49-31 in the 2nd half  Around 15 mintes left.  No live stats.

Finally some news from Potsdam. They lead Fredonia 39-30 with 16:19 to go in the gamw. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 08, 2020, 05:30:29 PM
Cortland 82   Oswego 72 Final score.

Big game for Cortland's Austin Grunder. 35 points and 12 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: FranElia on February 09, 2020, 12:34:15 AM
One small correction...Grunder finished with 32 points (not 35)...11 in first half and 21 in second.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: AllStar on February 09, 2020, 02:33:40 AM
Updated chart:
(https://i.imgur.com/9eM9Tod.png)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 09, 2020, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: FranElia on February 09, 2020, 12:34:15 AM
One small correction...Grunder finished with 32 points (not 35)...11 in first half and 21 in second.

Thanks Fran, and I just got new glasses. :D
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2020, 01:05:41 AM
Almost forgot this...The SUNYAC Player of the Week for the period ending February 2nd was Cortland's junior guard, Jake DiSanto. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.


"CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has named Cortland's Jake DiSanto (Victor, N.Y.) the PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week.

DiSanto shot 9-for-13 from 3-point range (10-for-14 overall) and scored a career-high 29 points, and also added four assists, in Cortland's 100-73 victory at Buffalo State Saturday. He scored 20 of his points in the first half to help the Red Dragons build a 61-34 halftime lead. DiSanto's nine 3-pointers were one shy of the Cortland single-game record. The previous night he scored 15 points on 5-of-9 3-point shooting in an 82-68 win at Fredonia. DiSanto finished the week averaging 22 points per game and shooting 14-for-22 (64 percent) from the 3-point arc."

Congratulation to Jake for taking home the weekly award.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2020, 01:37:43 AM
Brockport looking to get a little more love in the D3hoops Top 25 poll. Their winning streak has reached 11 in a row and they have all been by double digits, with 1 exception, (a three  point win over Potsdam). I know they won't make the Top 25 but should gain a few more votes in the Others Recieving Votes category.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 10, 2020, 04:38:10 AM
Quick recap of some Saturday games.

Buffalo State 89 Plattsburgh State 82

Buffalo State got the lead for good with 10:44 to go in the first half and went up by 13 points. Cardinals came back and closed it down to five at the break. Plattsburgh got even closer early in the 2nd period and 2 free throws from the Cards' Erik Salo made it a one possesion game at 54-52 with 18 minutes to go. Bengals still had a 4 point lead when Plattsburgh's Nick DeAngelis drained a 3 pointer to make it 63-62 but Sheldon Adams hit back to back treys to create some separation and after a pair of Cardinal turnovers, Kay Grant made them pay, as he scored inside on 2 straight possesions to put Buff State up by 11 at 73-62. The Cardinals wouldn't go away, though, and cut the lead to 6 points, then 3 points and finally got it down to a single point at 79-78, with 3:32 remaining, on a jumper by Axel Rodriguez. The Cardinals couldn't sustain the momentum however, and failed to score for almost 3 minutes as the Bengals opened up an 8 point lead and had no trouble closing the game out.

Sheldon Adams had a game high 27 points, Jordan Christopher had 23 points and Kay Grant had 20 points to lead the Bengals.

Plattsburgh got a career high 25 points from freshman Erik Salo and 16 points from Travis Cox. Cox had a double-double as he had a game high 10 rebounds. Travis is the hardest working 6'1" guy in the SUNYAC conference.

Buffalo State finally ended their long losing streak and I could see this coming as they played very well the day before at Potsdam. I would have picked them to win except they were playing my Cardinals and I couldn't do that when I thought we had a chance for the W. The Bengals got out of the cellar and while they won't make the playoffs this year they can still spoil the chances of several other teams, especially their next game which is against Geneseo. They can do the Cardinals a big favor if they win that one. Go Bengals!

Plattsburgh at the end of the weekend is still in playoff position and though, tied with Geneseo, does hold the current tiebreaker over the Knights.



Cortland State 82  Oswego State 72

The Lakers had the early lead in this contest and were up by as many as 11 points. Cortland caught them with 3:37 left and took the lead for good on a buzzer beater from downtown, by Austin Grunder. Up 35-34 at the break, the Red Dragons stretched the lead to 10 points early in the 2nd period and never let the Lakers get closer than 5 points the rest of the way.

Austin Grunder captured both scoring and rebounding honors with another double-double of 32 points and 12 rebounds. He continues to be near the top of the NCAA standings in total rebounds and double-doubles. Eric Edwards had 18 points and Bredan Fitzpatrick had 10 points with 8 boards.

Oswego got a big game from Joe Sullivan with 25 points and 5 rebounds. Brandan Gartland had 20 points and Liam Sanborn had 14.

These same two teams could end up tangling again in the first round of the playoffs. as the 4 and 5 seeds. A game that would take place in Oswego is my prediction. I don't see either one moving up to get a first round bye.

Brockport will finish 15-3 if they get beat by both Oswego and Cortland. I don't see them losing to Fredonia or Geneseo. At 15-3 that still doesn't let Cortland or Oswego get  past the Golden Eagles. I actually think Brockport finishes 17-1 or 16-2 and claims the top spot. I also think Potsdam comes in 2nd and gets the other bye.

Other Saturday scores

Oneonta 74 Geneseo 47

Oneonta got 23 points from Kevin Mackin, 14 points from Andres Rivera, and 11 points from Harrison Deegan. Joe Bull still missing from the Oneonta lineup. With 6 games left and 3 of those against Cortland, Oswego and Potsdam, his absence will be felt. I think they end up as the 3 seed or at worst a 4 seed but will still have a home playoff game in the first round.

Geneseo got 12 points from Michael Gannon.  Alex Merhige and Aaron Davis both had 8 points each.

The Knights are in a tight battle with Plattsburgh for the 6th and final playoff spot. The Cardinals might have a slight advantage with 3 of their last 4 games at home while the Knights have to play 3 of their last 4 on the road.

Brockport 81 New Paltz 59

Tyree Grimsley led Brockport with 19 points off the bench. Danny Ashley and Jahidi Wallace both had 15 points. Ashley also had a game high 7 rebounds.

Rj Meyers-Turner was the game's high scorer with 21 points to lead New Paltz.
Scott Reisert added 10 points.


Potsdam State 76  Fredonia 71

Once again the Bears did not play up to their potential and that's several games in the past 10 days where that has happened. They had an 11 point first half lead that led to a 37-28 advantage at the half. The Blue Devils wouldn't go away and stayed within striking distance for the first 7 minutes of the 2nd period. The Bears led by 10 but Fredonia was only 2 points down at 42-40 with 12:45 to go. The Bears went back up by 7 and the Blue Devils closed to a single point at 53-52 with 7:21 left. The next possesion Fredonia grabbed the lead at 54-53. It was the only lead they had and it was only for 16 seconds, but with just 6:29 left in the game it made the Bears fans a bit anxious, I'm sure. Potsdam went back up by 8 points but with just 15 seconds remaining Fredonia was only down 74-71. They had to foul and Potsdam made them both, to come away with the 5 point win.

Jayquan Thomas led the Bears and had scoring honors with 25 points. Isaiah Brown had 13 and Danny Delsol-Lowry had 12. Tyrese Baptiste had a game high 11 rebounds to go with his 8 points.

Dydy Bryan had 16 for Fredonia.  Moussa Samassa and De'Quan Smith both had 13 points. Samassa led Fredonia with 10 rebounds to get his double-double.





               
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 04:34:12 AM
As I mentioned yesterday, Brockport did move up a bit in the D3hoops Top 25 poll. The Golden Eagles were in the #36 spot last week in the Others Receiving Votes category with 6 points. This week they have moved up to #28 in the ORV and have a total of 15 points. RPI has 7 points and Hobart has 4 points. No other teams from the East Region are getting votes. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 05:42:44 AM
Potsdam State's Isaiah Brown has received the SUNYAC Player of the Week award for the 3rd time in the past 4 weeks. Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website.


"CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has named Potsdam's Isaiah Brown (Queens, N.Y.) the PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week for the third time this season.

Brown helped the Bears to a 3-0 week in SUNYAC play, averaging 23.0 ppg. and 7.0 rpg in victories over Plattsburgh, Buffalo State and Fredonia. On Tuesday, the sophomore scored a career-high 37 points on 48.3-percent shooting and grabbed nine rebounds in an 89-82 win at Plattsburgh. Brown scored 19 points and added six boards in a 73-67 home victory against the Bengals. He then chipped in 13 points and six rebounds in a 76-71 home win over the Blue Devils to complete the perfect week."

Congratulations to Isaiah for another excellent week. He now has matched Cortland's Austin Grunder who is also a 3 time winner this season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 05:46:16 AM
Feb. 11             Three games on the schedule for today    


Buffalo State  at  Geneseo State        7:30 PM

The Bengals hoping to start a winning streak and I'm hoping they do as well. First opportunity for the Bengals to put together back to back wins since December 7th. Geneseo wants to stay with Plattsburgh and this is their best chance to do so and perhaps even move ahead of the Cardinals who have two tough opponents on the road this weekend. After this game the Knights end the season on the road against 3 of the league leaders. I think this is their only chance for a 6th conference win.

The experts have made Geneseo a 5 point favorite in this one. I want Buffalo State to win so I'll take them to pull off the mild upset. They are so happy to get the monkey off their back I think they play like they did this past weekend. Buffalo State 77 Geneseo 74. 

   
Fredonia State  at  Brockport State        7:30 PM

The Blue Devils have their work cut out for them if they hope to put one in the win column here. Brockport is firing on all cylinders and has now won 11 in a row. Fredonia is coming off 6 straight losses. the oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a 25 point favorite and why not...they won at Fredonia just a week ago, by a 28 point margin, 88-60. Tonight will be more of the same. Brockport 92 Fredonia 63.   



Cortland State  at  Oneonta State        7:30 PM     Featured Game of the Night

The C Dragons lost the first go around with their cousins but didn't have big man Eric Edwards in that contest. Tonight the O Dragons look to be the team that has a man down, as Joe Bull who scored 17 points and pulled down 13 rebounds in the first match up, hasn't played in the last 3 games. Without him, Oneonta will be hard pressed to keep Austin Grunder and Edwards from controlling the boards, which was a key reason that Oneonta got that win last month.

Both teams are hoping to still gain some ground in the playoff race. Oneonta still seeks the #1 seed or at least a first round bye. They will need help to get by Brockport, but control their own destiny for the #2 seed. Cortland hoping for a home game in the first round of the playoffs, can't afford any more losses. Cortland has won 3 in a row after putting their lost weekend in the North Country behind them. Oneonta won big on Saturday over Geneseo, after a loss to Brockport the day before. 

The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a slim 2 point home favorite. I like Cortland to pick up a win here and even the season series. Cortland 83 Oneonta 80. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 11, 2020, 10:54:23 AM
Magicman
Little disappointed in your prediction tonight.
The Real Red Dragons will prevail tonight at Dewar arena!!!!!!
Let's Go Red Dragons!!!!

Lets GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 08:10:08 PM
You may very well be right All-Time. I only post what the crystal ball spit out. It was a pretty fuzzy crystal ball, though, must be all of the recent snow we've gotten.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 08:13:13 PM
Geneseo lead Buffalo State  43-23 at the half. That one surprises me. Bengals need to come out of the break with a different attitude.

No live stats as the stream isn't on. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 08:29:46 PM
Brockport leads Fredonia 51-29 at the break.

Oneonta leads Cortland 43-38 at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 11:20:17 PM
Brockport up big over Fredonia at the break 51-29.

Fredonia with the first lead at 3-0 and 5-3 but the Golden Eagles took over and soared to a 19-9 lead and increased it to 31-11 with 9:19 to play. 

Montgomery Stroman with 11 points for Port. Jahidi Wallace with 10.

Tyler Roberts with 8 points for Fredonia. Moussa Samassa has 6 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 11:22:20 PM
Tuesday's Final Scores:

Geneseo 78  Buffalo State 62

Brockport State 104  Fredonia 57

Oneonta State 92  Cortland State 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 11, 2020, 11:32:46 PM
All-Time hit the nail on the head with his prediction of Oneonta taking down Cortland despite the absence of Joe Bull. I think it's time for him to take over my job of predicting the outcomes. I fumbled the ball on that one. Also missed the Buffalo State- Geneseo game as the Knights just blew by the Bengals from the start.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 12, 2020, 07:50:37 AM
I watched the Bport-Fredonia game last night on the internet and felt bad for the Blue Devils. The Eagles were down 5-3 early but jumped to 19-9 lead. They never looked back and the Blue Devils never looked up. Fredonia really appeared to not want to be there. Down 51-29 at the half, Fredonia couldn't get anything going against the Eagles defense. Once again it was a total team effort by the Eagles that put this game out of reach. There team chemistry is at an all-time high. They are fun to watch. Keep it up, Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 12, 2020, 10:51:12 AM
Magicman I will leave all the predictions in your hands.
Nobody and I mean Nobody is Better than you.

Still hoping to be sitting next to you at the Championship!!!
But Brockport might be in the way of one of our teams.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 12, 2020, 03:18:14 PM
First Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 12, 2020, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: All-Time on February 12, 2020, 10:51:12 AM
Magicman I will leave all the predictions in your hands.
Nobody and I mean Nobody is Better than you.

Still hoping to be sitting next to you at the Championship!!!
But Brockport might be in the way of one of our teams.

All-Time, as always your words are too kind. Believe me I would love to sit next to you and watch some championship basketball in Potsdam or possibly Oneonta if that is what it takes. (of course, I prefer Plattsburgh most of all) However, like the young fan  who once said .....say it ain't so, Joe....the harsh reality is, the championship will be won on the Golden Eagles home court....and I wish it wasn't so. (Now if that predection doesn't jinx them, nothing will.) ;D 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 13, 2020, 02:52:46 AM
Nice to see Brockport at the top of the East Region rankings. Thought they would be #1 but was afraid RPI, despite the loss to Ithaca the other day, (thanks to Jake Mitchell's game winning basket) might still end up on top. Brockport's SOS is much better than RPI's and should be the difference maker. 4 of the 8 teams are from the SUNYAC so we have an outside chance for another team to move into the 2 or 3 spot. Need the Golden Eagles to stay where they are for a while. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 13, 2020, 09:18:42 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 13, 2020, 02:52:46 AM
Nice to see Brockport at the top of the East Region rankings. Thought they would be #1 but was afraid RPI, despite the loss to Ithaca the other day, (thanks to Jake Mitchell's game winning basket) might still end up on top. Brockport's SOS is much better than RPI's and should be the difference maker. 4 of the 8 teams are from the SUNYAC so we have an outside chance for another team to move into the 2 or 3 spot. Need the Golden Eagles to stay where they are for a while.

Brockport is going to have a killer vRRO, too - they're pretty secure without too many losses.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2020, 02:56:52 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 13, 2020, 09:18:42 AM
Quote from: magicman on February 13, 2020, 02:52:46 AM
Nice to see Brockport at the top of the East Region rankings. Thought they would be #1 but was afraid RPI, despite the loss to Ithaca the other day, (thanks to Jake Mitchell's game winning basket) might still end up on top. Brockport's SOS is much better than RPI's and should be the difference maker. 4 of the 8 teams are from the SUNYAC so we have an outside chance for another team to move into the 2 or 3 spot. Need the Golden Eagles to stay where they are for a while.

Brockport is going to have a killer vRRO, too - they're pretty secure without too many losses.

Yes, currently 5-2 vRRO and they could end up 6-2 if things break right.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2020, 05:25:07 AM
Feb. 14     Four games scheduled for tonight   

Plattsburgh State  at  Oswego State   7:30 PM

The Cardinals are now a half game back of Geneseo for the 6th seed. The Knights are idle tonight but the Cardinals will be hard pressed to get a win in Oswego. The Lakers, coming off a loss to Cortland, will not want to lose at home. Oswego took the first game in this season series by a 63-44 margin in Plattsburgh. The experts have made Oswego a 16 point favorite in this one. I'll be happy if the Cards cover that spread but I'm not sure they will be able to. Oswego 77 Plattsburgh 63. Hope I'm wrong though.





Oneonta State  at  Buffalo State        7:30 PM

I thought the Bengals might be turning things around after a decent weekend in the North Country, but their loss to Geneseo, on Tuesday, was not pretty. They were down by double digits less than 5 minutes after the opening tip and it just got worse from there.

They played Oneonta tough, in Oneonta, the first time around, as they came from 18 points down, at 59-41, with 14 minutes to go, to tie the game at 70-70 with 3:39 to play. The Red Dragons ended the game on a 6-0 run to win 76-70.

Oneonta is just a half game behind Potsdam and still hoping to get the top seed in the playoffs. The double loss to Brockport will make that unlikely as Oneonta would need to win their final 5 games and hope Brockport loses 2 of their final 3 games. Still it's possible and these Red Dragons will be working hard to try and make that happen.

The oddsmakers have made Oneonta an 11 point favorite in this one. I think they win by a few more.
Oneonta 84 Buffalo State 71. 
   


Potsdam State  at  Cortland State        7:30 PM      Featured Game of the Night

Potsdam will try to keep in contact with Brockport and can't afford a loss here. Brockport still holds the tiebreaker over Potsdam at the present time and I'm not sure that Potsdam can turn that around. The Bears still want the first round bye and control their destiny to get that prize.

Cortland is in the 5th spot and would probably need to win out and get some help, to move up, unless Oswego has a complete meltdown. These Red Dragons, coming off a loss to their cousins at Oneonta, would like a reversal of the first game these two played back on January 25th. Potsdam won that one by 10 points, 83-73.

The experts have made Cortland a home favorite here by a slim 3 point margin. And 3 point shooting might determine the winner. Nobody takes more shots from downtown, in the conference, than Cortland. I'm going with my alma mater in this game and will take Potsdam to win a close one.  Potsdam 86 Cortland 82.     


New Paltz State  at  Fredonia State        7:30 PM

These teams are trying to avoid the basement and also to end the season on a positive note. Both teams have had their moments and were close to springing upsets. Fredonia with early wins over Geneseo and Plattsburgh put themselves into the playoff picture. Their recent slump, however, has left them with just a faint hope of finishing in the 6th spot. They would need to win out and hope that several teams above them lose the rest of their games. New Paltz is in the same situation. One of them will be eliminated tonight, for certain.

The point spread has the home team Blue Devils favored by 4 to win this one. I think that Fredonia also wins this game by a few more. Fredonia 80 New Paltz 73. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 14, 2020, 03:45:16 PM
Magic and All-Time--Bport is a great place to watch the finals of the SUNYAC's. I hope your prediction is correct!!! I won't be able to sit with you guys because I will be in sunny Florida enjoying the sunshine, and watching it on internet. I hope I can enjoy a final game with Bport in it!! Have fun guys!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 14, 2020, 03:47:22 PM
BTW- I like Magicman's predictions. Would never try to take that away from him!!!LOL
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2020, 08:11:23 PM
Cortland leads Potsdam 40-31 at halftime.

Austin Grunder scored Cortland's first 14 points and has 18 to lead the Red Dragons Also has 8 rebounds. . Eric Edwards with 9.

Isaiah brown with 9 points and 6 boards to lead the Bears. Tyrese Baptiste with 7 points and 4 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2020, 08:14:39 PM
Fredonia leads New Paltz  46-39 at the break.

No live stats for this game so far.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2020, 08:31:04 PM
Oneonta leads Buffalo State 43-41 at halftime.

Red Dragons playing catch up for most of the first half as they trailed by 10 points on several occasions. Down 32-22 with 7 minutes to play, they wouldn't let the Bengals get away from them and finally came all the way back to take the lead at 40-39 with 1:40 left.   

Kevin Mackin carrying the load as he has 22 points and 4 steals for the Red Dragons at the break. Andres Rivera with 7 points and 4 rebounds.

Sheldon Adams doing the same for the Bengals as he has 20 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals at the half. No one else has more than 4 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2020, 08:46:35 PM
Oswego 39 Plattsburgh 34 at halftime.

The Lakers break free of a 31-31 tie, with 2:40 left, on a 3 pointer by Brandan Gartland and another one by Colby Moultrie on their next possession. Joe Sullivan added a pair of free throws for Oswego and the Cardinals countered with a 3 ball from Matt Bernhard but trail by 5.

Oswego got 15 points and 4 rebounds from Brandan Gartland. Joe Sullivan added 9 points and 5 rebounds.


Matt Bernhard had 12 points for Plattsburgh off the bench and was 3 x3 from long distance. He added 2 rebounds and an assist. Travis Cox added 7 points.

Cardinals only dressed 9 players and may have lost Jeremy Eisenmann who was injured just before halftime. Several Cardinals in foul trouble. Hope they can finish the game with 5 players.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 14, 2020, 09:20:29 PM
Final Scores.

Cortland 93  Potsdam 88

Oneonta 88 Buffalo State 76

Fredonia 97  New Paltz 80

Oswego 75  Plattsburgh 69
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 01:41:00 AM
Oswego 75  Plattsburgh 69

Proud of the way Plattsburgh competed at Oswego tonight. The Cardinals were shorthanded before the game even started as they were only able to dress 9 players. Then they lost a player to injury midway through the first half. Foul trouble also hampered the efforts of 2 Cardinal starters for much of the game. They were still able to hang with the Lakers and on several occasions, when it looked like Oswego was finally going to put them away, someone stepped up and kept the pressure on. This was a 2 point game with under 6 minutes to play, at 61-59, when the Lakers Colby Moultrie hit back to back triples to open up an 8 point advantage. The closest Plattsburgh could get after that was 4 points and the Lakers went  4x5 from the line to claim the win.

Oswego
Oswego was led by Brandan Gartland with a game high 22 points. He added 7 rebounds, 5 assists and 4 steals.
Joe Sullivan had 21 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Colby Moultrie had 14 points in 11 minutes off the bench.
Jamal Achille had 6 points, 9 rebounds and 1 assist in 29 minutes off the bench.
Liam Sanborn had 5 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists and a block.

Plattsburgh
Junior Matt Bernhard had a career high 17 points to lead the Cardinals. He added 5 rebounds and 1 assist in 33 minutes off the bench, which was also the longest amount of court time he had ever logged in a Cardinal game. He nailed 4 straight 3 pointers to help keep Plattsburgh close at different points in the contest.
Travis Cox had 16 points, 6 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists and a steal.
Nick DeAngelis had a double-double of 10 points and a game high 12 rebounds. He added 5 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Cameron Ness had 8 points, 8 rebounds, a steal and a block.
Erik Salo had 9 points and 4 rebounds.

The Lakers imporved to 16-5 overall and 10-4 in the SUNYAC. They continue to hold on to 4th place by 2 games over Cortland who defeated 2nd place Potsdam tonight. The Lakers will face Potsdam in Laker Hall Saturday at 4:00 PM.


Plattsburgh falls to 8-14 overall and 5-10 in the YAC. They are still in 7th place, now a game back of Geneseo for the final playoff spot. They will travel to Cortland for a game on Saturday afternoon at 4 PM

 

   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 04:57:01 AM
Feb. 15      Everyone in action this afternoon at 4:00 PM.  4 games with playoff implications.    


Geneseo State  at  Brockport State        4:00 PM

The Knights would love to pull off the upset here and hold the tiebreaker over Plattsburgh. Don't think that will happen as the Golden Eagles are too deep and talented. The oddsmakers have them listed as 21 point favorites. They won the first go around by 15. They should win this one by an 85- 61 final score.


Plattsburgh State  at  Cortland State   4:00 PM

They say that revenge is a dish best served cold. Well it was very cold Friday and Cortland got their revenge. Today they will be looking for more revenge on top of that serving they got yesterday against Potsdam. The Red Dragons went 0-2 on their visit to the North Country 3 weeks ago. They won't settle for anything less than 2-0 against those teams when they visit Cortland. The Red Dragons are listed as a 16 point favorite over the Cardinals. I hope the Cardinals can cover the point spread. They are banged up and will struggle to stay with the Red Dragons. Cortland 88 Plattsburgh 74, but I sure hope I'm wrong on this one.   



Oneonta State  at  Fredonia State        4:00 PM

Both teams won on Friday and eliminated 2 teams from the playoff race. Now Fredonia needs to win today or they will be eliminated. The Blue Devils have 4 wins and there are 2 teams above them, Plattsburgh and Geneseo. Should they all finish with 6 wins....Fredonia needs to win this game and next Saturday against Buffalo State to do so.....then Fredonia will own the tiebreaker by virtue of a win over Oneonta and get the final playoff spot.

This is the big game for the Blue Devils so they will give it their best shot. The oddsmakers have listed Oneonta as a 12 point favorite. I'm surprised the point spread is so low, as Oneonta won the first meeting 81-40. Oneonta wins this one by a large margin as well.  Oneonta 87 Fredonia 62. 



   
Potsdam State  at  Oswego State        4:00 PM             Featured Game of the Day

Both teams need this game to keep alive their hopes of a first round bye. The schedule is a little more favorable to Potsdam at this point, since Oswego has to play the 3 teams directly ahead of them, among their final 4 games. Potsdam has 3 games remaining and only Oneonta is ahead of them. They also end the season with the last place team.

The Bears dropped a tough one to Cortland last night. They were down by as many as 19 points and came back to trail 85-83 with just over 2 minutes remaining. They had their chances down the stretch but couldn't quite pull off the comeback. Oswego also had a tough game against Plattsburgh but held off the Cardinals to finish on top.   

The experts have the Lakers favored by 3 points here. The Bears 3 conference losses have all been on the road....by 2 points, 3 points, and 5 points. At some point they need to get lucky. Potsdam 80 Oswego 76.


New Paltz State  at  Buffalo State        4:00 PM

Both of these teams have been eliminated from the playoffs and are playing for pride. The Hawks won the first meeting at home. I think it's the Bengals' turn to do the same thing. The point spread favors Buffalo State by 5 points. I think they win by a few more. Buffalo State 87 New Paltz 78.    
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 04:38:39 PM
Plattsburgh 37 Cortland 35 at halftime.

Cardinals Nick DeAngelis leads all scorers with 14 points. He also has 6 rebounds and 3 assists. Travis Cox with 4 points and 3 assists. Cameron Ness with 4 points and 4 boards.

Cortland gets 10 points and 3 rebounds from Ryan Schmadel. Brendan Fitzpatrick with 10 points and 2 assists. Austin Grunder with 3 points and 8 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 04:46:50 PM
Oneonta leads Fredonia 48-31 at the half.

Dylan Trombley with 16 points, 4 assists and 2 rebounds to lead Oneonta. Harrison Deegan with 10 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal. Kevin Mackin with 9 points and 3 rebounds. Andres Rivera with 7 points and 2 boards.

Fredonia gets 9 points and 4 assists from Dydy Bryan. Tyler Roberts also with 9 points and 2 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 04:52:01 PM
Potsdam and Oswego knotted up at 33 at the break.

Isaiah Brown leads the Bears with 16 points and 7 rebounds. Jayquan Thomas with 5 points, 2 assists and 2 rebounds.



Oswego gets 10 points and 4 rebounds from Brandan Gartland. Liam Sanborn with 8 points, 3 assists and 3 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 04:59:11 PM
Brockport leads Geneseo 41-24 at halftime.

Tyler Collins with 10 points and 4 assists to lead Brockport. Justin Summers is back and has 9 points, a block and a steal in just 7 minutes of playing time. Danny Ashley with 9 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds.

Michael Gannon has 11 points and 5 rebounds for Geneseo. Aaron Davis with 5 points and 2 assists.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 05:08:08 PM
Buffalo State leads New Platz 36-30 at halftime.

Sheldon Adams with 12 points to lead the Bengals. Kay Grant with 11 points and 8 rebounds.

Tristan Wissemann with 13 points and 6 rebounds for New Paltz.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 05:35:44 PM
Cortland 88 Plattsburgh 77  Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 05:45:35 PM
Oneonta 90 Fredonia 75 Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 05:51:26 PM
Potsdam State 76 Oswego State 62  Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 05:59:05 PM
Brockport State 88 Geneseo State 57  Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 15, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
Buffalo State 79  New Paltz State 70  Final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2020, 06:36:33 AM
Cortland State 88 Plattsburgh State 77

Plattsurgh played another tough game for the 2nd day in a row and stayed with Cortland for most of the game. They had a 2 point lead at halftime, but I knew it was just a matter of time. It's hard to play shorthanded at home, even worse when it's on the road for a weekend trip. The Cardinals played well this weekend and I would have liked to see them get a win. They worked overtime. Our day will come.

The teams traded baskets early in the 2nd period and the Cardinals went ahead 43-38 which was their largest lead of the game. It didn't last long as Cortland reversed it with an 18-3 run that put them in front 56-46. Using their favorite weapon...the 3 pointer... the Red Dragons made 3 triples in 90 seconds and after Plattsburgh made 1 of 2 from the line Cortland buried another 3ball 30 seconds later to increase the lead to 59-47. Still down by 13 with 8:44 to play, the Cardinals got 3 straight jumpers from Travis Cox on 3 successive possessions, and Matt Bernhard had a 4 point play to narrow the margin to 67-62. Cox hit another jumper and Cortland went to the line and got a pair of free throws from Brendan Fitzpatrick to keep the lead at 5. Bernhard then drained another one from long range to bring Plattsburgh as close as they would get the rest of the way at 69-67.

On Cortlands next possession they were fouled and went to the line for a 1 and 1. They missed the free throw but got the offensive rebound and turned it into a 4 point lead. Then Plattsburgh missed on their end and Cortland went up by 6. An offensive foul on the Cardinals led to another Cortland bucket and this one was over. Cortland stretched the lead to 14 points and won by the 11 point margin.

I said in my preview of Cortland's game against Potsdam on Friday that the Red Dragons take more shots from long distance than anyone in the YAC. They had 31 attempts on Friday and made 11. They took 33 attempts in this game and made 15. Plattsburgh was 11 for 29 from distance. The big hurt was at the foul line as Cortland was 19x23. Plattsburgh only got to the stripe 7 times and made 4. Plattsburgh also had 12 turnovers to just 6 for the Dragons. We won the rebounding battle 37-32. 

Cortland
Ryan Schmadel captured scoring honors with 26 points and also had 5 rebounds. He was 6x11 from deep.
Austin Grunder had his usual double-double of 16 points and a game high 14 rebounds. He was 3x4 from long range.
Brendan Fitzpatrick had 15 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists.
Eric Edwards had 15 points and 7 rebounds.
Jake DiSanto had 11 points and 4 assists.

Plattsburgh
Travis Cox led Plattsburgh with 22 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.
Nick DeAngelis had 18 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Matt Bernhard had 17 points equaling the career high he set yesterday. He also added 4 boards and 2 assists.
Cameron Ness had 6 points, 6 rebounds and 1 assist.
Marlon Todd came off the bench and hit 2 big 3 pointers to total 6 points in 11 minutes of court time.
Erik Salo had 5 points, 6 rebounds and 2 assists.

Cortland improves to 15-7 overall and 9-6 in the YAC. They will play at New Paltz on Tuesday at 7:30 PM

Plattsburgh falls to 8-15 overall and 5-11 in the YAC. Next they will host New Paltz on Friday, February 21st at 7:30.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 16, 2020, 06:42:08 AM
Projected Final Regular Season Standings.

With one week left in the SUNYAC, and teams having from 1 to 3 games left, these are my best guesses as to what the final standings will look like. Current SUNYAC record is in parentheses. Remember these are my predictions, not facts, and if, for instance, Oneonta defeats Potsdam, that changes who the #2 seed would be. Obviously other changes could also occur.


         Team                             Final Record               How They Finish

#1  Brockport State (15-1)             17-1               Defeat Cortland, Defeat Oswego

#2  Potsdam State (13-3)              15-3                Defeat Oneonta, Defeat New Paltz*

#3  Oneonta State (13-2)              15-3                Defeat Oswego, Lose to Potsdam, Defeat Plattsburgh

#4  Cortland State (9-6)                11-7                Defeat New Paltz, Lose to Brockport, Defeat Geneseo

#5  Oswego State (10-5)               11-7                Lose to Oneonta, Defeat Geneseo, Lose to Brockport**

#6  Plattsburgh State (5-11)          6-12                Defeat New Paltz, Lose to Oneonta***

#7  Geneseo State (6-10)              6-12                Lose to Oswego, Lose to Cortland

#8  Buffalo State (3-14)                 4-14    Elim.    Defeat Fredonia
                     
#9 Fredonia State (4-13)               4-14     Elim.    Lose to Buffalo State

#10 New Paltz State (1-14)            1-17     Elim.    Lose to Cortland, Plattsburgh, and Potsdam


*Potsdam wins the tiebreaker over Oneonta. They split the season series  but Potsdam has a win against Brockport which gives the #2 seed to the Bears.

**This is a worst case scenario for Oswego. They could defeat either Oneonta or Brockport and have a better record than Cortland and get the 4 seed. If they end up tied with Cortland, then the Red Dragons win the tiebreaker by virtue of their win over Potsdam.                               

***If Plattsburgh and Genseso end up tied with 6-12 records, the Cardinals have the tiebreaker by virtue of their win over Cortland.

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 17, 2020, 04:14:07 PM
Congrats to SUNY Potsdam soph Isaiah Brown, [Westside Queens, NIA Prep]for his fourth selection as SUNYAC player of the week.

Brown scored 75 points in less than 24 hours as he led the Bears to a road split in the next to last week of conference play. He averaged 37.5 points and 12.5 rebounds per game while shooting 59% from the  floor, 48% from beyond the arc, and 85% from the charity stripe. He came within one point of the all time Potsdam single game scoring record with 42 points in a come from behind 76-62 victory on Saturday afternoon at Oswego, and led a fierce comeback from 19 points down in the second half in a 88-93 loss Friday night at Cortland, scoring 33 points and grabbing 10 rebounds. Brown added 3 blocks during the two games.

In 14 games this season after joining the team in January, Brown is averaging 24.6 points per game and 9.0 rebounds per game as the Bears have posted a 12-2 record since he joined them.

Congratulations, Isaiah.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2020, 05:33:56 AM
The D3hoops Top 25 latest poll came out Monday night and Brockport State finally made it into the Top 25. They have been listed in the Others Receiving Votes for the past 2 weeks but are now at #25 with 53 points.

They are the only team from the East Region with any votes.

Last Saturday on Senior Night at Brockport, the Golden Eagles started senior Justin Summer who has been out since January 17th when he was injured in a game against Oneonta. It wasn't a ceremonial start for an injured player because he played 11 minutes, scored 13 points, grabbed 5 rebounds and had 3 blocks. He didn't play long because they didn't need him and he needs to get back up to speed. No sense in taking chances in a game they were winning by a large margin. I'm guessing he will be available for the playoffs and hopefully the NCAA tournament. So glad to see him back on the court. Brockport went through this a few years ago when SUNYAC Player of the Year and All American John Ivy got hurt. He  missed the playoffs and NCAA tournament, depriving Brockport of a chance at a nice run that year. I'd like to see Brockport have that chance, this year.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2020, 05:40:17 AM
February 18th      Two games scheduled for tonight

Cortland State  at  New Paltz State        7:30 PM

Cortland shouldn't look past the Hawks, as they think about their Friday night matchup with Brockport. New Paltz has nothing to play for but pride and they would love to get a couple of big wins in what has been a down year for them. This is the Hawks last home game and if they can give their fans a W here, it will be very satisfying.

Cortland still has hopes for a home playoff game in the first round. Most likely against Oswego. They would prefer not to play it in Laker Hall, even though they have had considerable success in Oswego in recent years. The experts have made Cortland a 15 point favorite in this one. I think they win win by a few more.
Cortland 90 New Paltz 67.   


Oswego State  at  Oneonta State        7:30      Featured Game of the Night

These Red Dragons have won 4 in a row and are still hoping for a first round bye. They would like the top seed but that's a bit of a stretch at this point. They would need to win out and Brockport would need to lose  their remaining 2 games, since Brockport holds the tiebreaker over Oneonta, by virtue of their season sweep of the Red Dragons. I don't think either of those possibilities will happen .

Oneonta has been playing well despite the loss of big man, Joe Bull, as they are 5-1, with just the loss to Brockport, since his injury. I'm hoping he will be able to return for the playoffs but haven't heard what the prognosis is for that to happen. Never like to see a good team lose one of their top players at any point during the season, but especially when the playoffs start.

Oswego has lost 2 of their last 3 games and is in danger of losing a home playoff game. They need a win here to stay ahead of Cortland for that prize. For the past four years these teams have split the season series. Five years ago Oswego won both games. Oneonta has a leg up on this year's series as they won the first meeting back in January, 76-66, at Oswego. The oddsmakers have made Oneonta a slim 4 point favorite here and I like Oneonta as well. They are 16-2 in their last 18 games with both losses at the hands of Brockport...the #25th ranked team in the country according to the latest D3Hoops Top 25 poll. This time it's the Red Dragons who sweep the season series.... Oneonta 84 Oswego 77
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2020, 08:12:35 AM
Congrats to SUNY Potsdam's Isaiah Brown for making the D-III Hoops team of the week for the week ending 2/15.

He joins Austin Grunder (2 selections) and Ben Walters of SUNY Cortland who were selected earlier this season.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2020, 08:22:09 PM
Oswego leads Oneonta 39-24 atthe half.

The Lakers broke open the game with a barrage of 3 pointers as they went from a 2 point deficit at 20-18 into a 15 point lead at 35-20 with a 17-0 run. Tim Marshall and Brandan Gartland both had a pair of treys and Julien Crittendon had 1 in that stretch.

Jeremiah Sparks has a big first half for Oswego with 11 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals and a block.
Brandan Gartland has 10 points.


Kevin Mackin and Ian Schultz both have 7 points to lead Oneonta. Schultz also had 5 rebounds. 3 blocks and a assist.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 18, 2020, 08:47:05 PM
Cortland leads New Paltz 49-37 at the break.

Ryan Schmadel with 18 points to lead Cortland. He shot 7-10 from the field including 3 of 5 from downtown.
Eric Edwards with 14 points and 5 rebounds. He  was also 7 of 10 from the field and had 5 rebounds.


Tristan Wissemann with 17 points and 5 boards to lead the Hawks.
Scott Reisert with 6 points and 4 rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 18, 2020, 09:13:53 PM
Some major missing pieces in tonight's SUNYAC Action.

Austin Grunder not in the lineup for the Cortland Red Dragons

Liam Sanborn not in the lineup for the Oswego Lakers

Joe Bull not playing for Oneonta Red Dragons

Oswego just beat Oneonta 81-76 at Dewar Arena.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 19, 2020, 11:16:53 AM
Bad Loss for My Oneonta Red Dragons last night!!!
Things are getting very interesting as the regular season comes to a close.
On any given night if you don't BRING IT any of the top teams can fall.

Buckle Up and hold on to your seats, The Playoffs will be Fantastic!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 19, 2020, 01:17:06 PM
Week 2's Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 21, 2020, 05:44:37 AM
Feb. 21           The final weekend of the regular season. Four games on tap for tonight
   

Geneseo State  at  Oswego State        7:30 PM

Oswego with a big win over Oneonta on Tuesday, could clinch the 3rd seed with a win tonight, coupled with a Cortland loss to Brockport. With the Golden Eagles on tap for tomorrow afternoon, the Lakers don't want to be thinking to far ahead and forget to take care of business against the Knights.

Geneseo is still trying to hang on to the 6th and final playoff spot. If they get a win this weekend they can clinch that position and eliminate Plattsburgh. They have two tough games so a win won't come easy, as they face Oswego tonight, with Cortland scheduled for Saturday. They do have more on the line, since those teams are in the playoffs and the Knights may need to win, to get in.

The experts have made the Lakers a 14 point favorite to win this one. I think they win by a few more. Oswego 78 Geneseo 61.     


New Paltz State  at  Plattsburgh State   7:30 PM

This is the game that could determine whether Plattsburgh makes the playoffs or finishes in 7th place. The Cardinals are a game behind Geneseo and need a win here to catch them. They still need help but if they tie with 6-12 records, Plattsburgh wins the tiebreaker. The Cardinals played two solid games last weekend against Cortland and Oswego but couldn't get a win. They were shorthanded and will probably be so again today.

New Paltz playing the spoiler role and would like a win here because tomorrow they have Potsdam and that will be the tougher of the weekend games. The point spread favors Plattsburgh by 8 points. It may be closer than that. The Hawks only lost to Cortland last week by 7 points. Plattsburgh 75 New Paltz 69.     



Brockport State  at  Cortland State        7:30 PM

Brockport has won 13 in a row and is the number one team in the East Region Rankings. They have done that despite losing Justin Summers, their top player, from January 17th until February 11th, a total of 10 games. On Tuesday, Senior Night, he played and scored 13 points in 11 minutes. I'm still not sure if he'll play tonight since Brockport has a stranglehold on the top seed and the coaching staff may want to save him for the playoffs, to give him that extra week to get stonger. They may also decide to give him some minutes to get back up to speed.

Cortland is on a 3 game win streak including a win over #2 Potsdam last weekend. Leading scorer Austin Grunder did not play on Tuesday against New Paltz. They will need his talents against Brockport. The Red Dragons still hoping for the 4th seed so they can host a playoff game. 

Several players involved in this game that missed the first go around, which resulted in an 86-73 Brockport win. Cortland did not have 3 point specialist Ryan Schmadel and Brockport was missing top rebounder Devante Hagins. I expect both to play tonight. The big question marks will be Austin Grunder for Cortland and Justin Summers for Brockport.

Brockport now ranked #25 in the D3Hoops Top 25 Poll. Will need a win if they want to stay ranked. A win will also help them if they get upset in the conference tournament and need an at large bid to go dancing. The oddsmakers have made the Golden Eagles a slim 4 point favorite in this one. I like Brockport as well.
Final score Brockport 87 Cortland 80.       



Oneonta State  at  Potsdam State        7:30         Featured Game of the Night

This game will probably determine who gets a bye and who will host a first round game. Oneonta won the first meeting back in December on a late basket by Ian Schultz to come away with a 62-60 win.

The Bears will have a different lineup in this contest as they were missing their top scorer at the time, Jayquan Thomas. They also have a new addition, Isaiah Brown, who joined the team in January, and he has exploded on the SUNYAC scene. He has already been named as the SUNYAC Player of the Week 4 times in the 6 weeks he's been eligible.

The Red Dragons have been without one of their top players, Joseph Bull, for the last 7 games. I'm still unsure of his status but tonight would be a good time for his return. Cortland was able to slow the Bears momentum down last weekend, with a 93-88 win, so these Red Dragons with a pair of wins over Cortland can certainly pull off another win over the Bears.

The point spread favors Potsdam by a slender 3 point margin. I think it should be more. Potsdam 84 Oneonta 76.         



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 21, 2020, 09:58:28 PM
The Bport-Cortland game was everything you would expect. Both teams played hard to the final buzzer and both had their shining moments. Jahadi Wallace hit a 3 pointer at the buzzer to tie the game and send it into OT.  It was back and forth in OT until the final 21 seconds when foul shots sealed the victory with Tyler Collins and Danny Ansley hitting two each for the 86-80 win for the Eagles. Magic and All-Time, I wish I could join you for the SUNYAC championship at Bport, but I guess I am going to have to suffer down here in sunny Tampa, Florida. I will probably play some golf and then watch the games. Enjoy!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 21, 2020, 11:47:53 PM
Potsdam pulled away in the second half to defeat a game Oneonta Red Dragon squad and clinch the #2 seed in the SUNYAC tournament and a first round bye.

Freshman Tyrese Baptiste had a career night with 28 points, on 12x18 from the floor and added 15 rebounds.

SUNYAC scoring average leader Isaiah Brown added 27 points on 9x15 from the floor and 4x7 from the arc, he also grabbed 9 rebounds and blocked 4 shots.

Kevin Mackin led the Red Dragons, hitting for 23 points on 7x16 from long range. The Dragons were once again without Joseph Bull who was on the bench in street clothes. The Red Dragons were whistled for 25 fouls and had three starters foul out.

Potsdam shot 47% from the floor and 41% from the arc.  Oneonta was held to 36% from the floor and 28% from the arc.

The Bears had 52 rebounds to 41 for Oneonta.

Potsdam moves to 14-3 in the SUNYAC, and 19-5 overall (19-4 in D-III).  Oneonta slips to 13-4 in the SUNYAC and 17-7 overall.  Oneonta can clinch the 3 seed with a win at Plattsburgh tomorrow, or an Oswego loss to Brockport at Laker Hall.  Potsdam wraps up its regular season vs. New Paltz tomorrow in a 4PM tip.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2020, 05:32:55 AM
Friday night results:

Brockport State 86  Cortland State 80 in overtime.

I didn't predict the overtime but did predict Brockport winning 87-80. The Golden Eagles clinched the regular season crown and will host the Final Four next weekend. Cortland will now end up with the 5th seed and most likely will travel to Oswego for a first round playoff game on Tuesday.

Jahidi Wallace with 21 points to lead the Eagles. He added 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.
Justin Summers with 8 points in 11 minutes as he continues his return to action.
Tyler Collins with 19 points, 5 assists and 4 rebounds.
Montgomery Stroman with 13 points and 8 rebounds.
Antonio Alvarez with 11 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals.

Austin Grunder returns to action after missing a game and has a game high 29 points for the Red Dragons. He also has a game high 15 rebounds to get another double-double and in the process sets a Cortland record for rebounds in a season with 347, breaking the old record of 337. He also went over the 500 point mark for the season.
Eric Edwards also had a double-double of 25 points and 12 rebounds.
Brendan Fitzpatrick with 11 points, 9 rebounds and 3 assists.

Brockport will be at Oswego on Saturday afternoon while Cortland will host Geneseo.


Oswego State 64  Geneseo State 42

I had the Lakers winning by a 78-61 score. They got an early lead and stayed in front the rest of the way, winning by 22 points. The win locked them into at least the 4th seed. A win on Saturday over Brockport, coupled with an Oneonta loss to Plattsburgh, would give them the 3rd seed.   

The Lakers were led by Jerimiah Sparks with a game high 15 points and a game high 7 rebounds.
Brandan Gartland had 13 points and Colby Moultrie had 12.

Geneseo got 12 points from Michael Gannon and another 12 from Alex Merhige.

The good news for the Knights is Plattsburgh lost to New Paltz which probably gave Geneseo the 6th and final playoff spot. They will most likely have to travel to Oneonta on Tuesday.

Oswego hosts Brockport on Saturday. Geneseo travels to Cortland.


Potsdam State 91  Oneonta State 83

I had the Bears winning this one 84-76. Both teams scored a few more than that but I had the 8 point margin of victory right on the money.

The Bears win the battle for 2nd place and with it get a first round bye. Oneonta will most likely end up in 3rd place unless they lose to Plattsburgh on Saturday and Oswego wins.

Potsdam led throughout the game but Oneonta was never far back and came within a single possession a number of times. The Bears finally got a double digit lead with 13 minutes left to play and kept a comfortable lead until Oneonta made a late run to cut it to 4 points. The Bears' Aaron Armstrong hit 5 of 6 from the line to close the game out.

Potsdam got a big game from Tyrese Baptiste who had a double-double of 28 points and 15 boards to capture scoring and rebounding honors.
Reigning SUNYAC Player of the Week, Isaiah Brown, had 27 points, 9 rebounds, 4 blocks, 3 assists and a steal.   
Danny Delsol-Lowry had 11 points 4 rebounds and 2 assists.
Aaron Armstrong had 9 points and 9 rebounds.

Kevin Mackin led Oneonta with 23 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. Mackin set a new Oneonta record for 3 pointers in a season with 90, breaking the old mark of 83. He was 7 for 16 from downtown in the game.
Andres Rivera had a double-double of 18 points and 11 rebounds.
Ian Schultz also with a double-double of 13 points and 10 rebounds.
Harrison Deegan with 12 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, a steal and a block.

Potsdam will host New Paltz on Saturday afternoon. Oneonta will travel over to Plattsburgh to take on the Cardinals on the final day of regular season action.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2020, 05:33:18 AM
New Paltz State 73 Plattsburgh State 68

This game didn't turn out the way I would have liked it to, as I thought Plattsburgh would win a close game by a 75-69 final score. I was fairly close on the total but not on the winner. Had I known what I found out, when I walked into Memorial Hall Friday evening, I wouldn't have picked my Cardinals to win. Plattsburgh has been shorthanded all year but lately it has been even worse. Friday night was as bad as it got. Two starters were not able to play at all and a third player, who has missed the last 4 games tried to go, but after several minutes had to call it a day.

The first half was a back and forth affair until the Hawks got a little separation with about 5 minutes to go. They managed to stretch a 4 point lead at 31-27 with 2:46 to play, into a 10 point halftime advantage.

Plattsburgh continued to play catch-up as the lead stayed around the 7-12 point margin. Up 47-40, New Paltz used an 11-2 run to open up a 16 point lead at 58-42 with 9:23 to play. Plattsburgh responded with an 11-2 run of their own to make it 60-53. The Hawks continued to lead by multiple possessions as the teams traded baskets. Finally a hoop and harm, 3 point play by Travis Cox got the Cardinals within a single possession at 71-68 with 46 seconds to go. The Hawks came up empty and Plattsburgh had a chance to tie the game but they came up empty as well. The Cards had to foul and New Paltz made them both to salt this one away.

Have to give the Hawks credit for playing a tough game and making their shots when they needed to. They had an answer for each Cardinal charge. They had a tough year and they earned this one.

Proud of the Cardinals to hang in there and fight back from a 16 point deficit with a chance to tie the game at the end.   

Plattsburgh got a huge game from Travis Cox who had a career best 31 points. He added 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks.
Nick DeAngelis had 11 points and 8 rebounds.
Matt Bernhard had 9 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.
Marlon Todd had 8 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.
Cameron Ness had 7 points and 7 rebounds.

New Paltz was led by Scott Reisert with a double-double of 21 points and a game high 13 rebounds. He added 5 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.
Jake Passaretti had 11 points 3 rebounds and 3 assists.
RJ Meyers-Turner had 10 points, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.
Tristan Wissemann had 9 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists and a steal.

Plattsburgh will take on Oneonta on Saturday in a must win situation if they want to make the playoffs. It would be a tough task for the Cardinals, if they were 100% healthy. With only 7 players available for the game, their chances don't look too good.

New Paltz will travel over to Potsdam to take on the Bears.   
       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2020, 07:08:25 AM
Feb. 22                        Final Gameday of the Regular Season
   

Geneseo State  at  Cortland State        4:00 PM

The Knights would like a win here just in case Plattsburgh pulls off the upset of Oneonta. Cortland is locked in as the 5th seed. The point spread has the Red Dragons favored by 14. I think they win by more.
Cortland 87 Geneseo 63


Oneonta State  at  Plattsburgh State   4:00 PM

Oneonta doesn't want to slip up here and lose the #3 seed in the conference tournament. A loss to Plattsburgh coupled with an Oswego State win over Brockport could do just that. The Red Dragons would rather take care of business and not leave it up to somebody else. Plattsburgh is banged up and couldn't defeat the last place team on Friday. They will be in a tough spot to get a W in this game against the #3 team. Oneonta is listed as an 11 point favorite. I don't think it will be that close, but I sure hope I'm wrong.
Oneonta 86 Plattsburgh 68.


Brockport State  at  Oswego State        4:00 PM       Featured Game of the Day

This could be like the December 6th game between these teams, which came down to the final seconds. Brockport won that one 68-67. Now, the Lakers are the home team and will try and even the season series. The Golden Eagles have already captured the regular season crown, so this game doesn't have that prize riding on the outcome. Both teams are still in the running for an NCAA at large bid, if they lose out on the automatic bid and every win is important. Oswego can still hope for the #3 seed in the YAC, but that's really a longshot. They will probably wind up as the # 4 seed and host Cortland next Tuesday. They have more reason to win this game than the Golden Eagles do because they can't afford many more losses and remain in contention for an NCAA bid. 

The oddsmakers have made Brockport a 4 point favorite here. I like Brockport as well and expect a close game. Brockport 82 Oswego 77     


Buffalo State  at  Fredonia State        4:00 PM

Playing for pride in this game. Bengals won the first meeting back in December. Blue Devils looking to get some revenge. Fredonia favored by 3 points. Fredonia 75 Buffalo State 71


New Paltz State  at  Potsdam State        4:00 PM

The Bears have clinched the #2 seed and the first round bye that goes with it. They need this win to fatten their record and look more attractive should they need an at large bid. This would get them to win #20. If they win a game next weekend and lose in the championship they would be 21-6. Might be good enough for an at large bid. Strength of Schedule could be a problem. And they may not be high enough in the regional rankings, although they should move up a few spots, when the next ones come out.

New Paltz got a win yesterday they won't be so fortunate today. They are listed as 23 point underdogs. They may cover the spread though. Potsdam 89 New Paltz 69.     

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 22, 2020, 07:22:40 PM
Saturday's Final Scores

Buffalo State 92 Fredonia 87

Cortland 64  Geneseo 54

Oneonta 105  Plattsburgh 65

New Paltz 100 Potsdam 96

Brockport 85  Oswego 80 in overtime


Congratulations to the Brockport Golden Eagles on winning the Regular season. Putting up a 17-1 record in the YAC is no easy feat. Losing their All Conference player for 10 games and still going undefeated in that stretch shows the depth of the Brockport team. I wish them much success in the NCAA tournament which they should be a lock for with a 22-3 record and a solid SOS. I'm hopeful we may get another YAC team in the dance as well.


Congratulations to the New Paltz Hawks for sweeping the North Country weekend. The teams at the top of the conference, Brockport, Oneonta, Oswego and Cortland, couldn't pull off what the Hawks did yesterday and today. Making the long trip north and beating both Plattsburgh and Potsdam on their home court is going to make for a real happy bus ride on the way home. It wasn't a good year for New Paltz as they ended up at the bottom of the SUNYAC, but the way they finished will be a highlite the team will always remember. Especially today's win at Potsdam. The Hawks shot 59% in the game and hit the century mark for the first time in over 2 years.

And finally, Congratulations to my Plattsburgh Cardinals. We knew going in it was going to be a tough season. When you lose 5 starters it's never easy the next year. Then we lost our long time coach so the continuity of the program was also challenged.  We were fortunate to get Coach Blaine to lead us into the 20's and I'm sure with his guidance that the Cardinals will find themselves in the thick of the conference race next season.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 23, 2020, 10:50:42 AM
I wasn't able to watch the Bport-Lakers finale, but it must have been a great battle as the Lakers hit a 3 pointer to send it into OT. For the second night in a row, my Eagles were able to pull out an OT win. These two games are great preparation for playoff basketball!!! I think we are in for a great SUNYAC playoff. As has been said all along any of the top 5 can win this. I wish I could see it live but will have to watch on my computer. Good luck, Eagles!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2020, 04:06:41 AM
The new D3Hoops Top 25 came out Monday nights and Brockport moved up 2 spots to #23. Their vote total increased from 53 to an even 100.

RPI also joined the Top 25 at #24 with 58 points. They had 26 points last week.

Hobart got a single vote.

Here's the link to the Top 25:

https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2019-20/week12
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2020, 04:25:21 AM
Eric Edwards from Cortland State has been named the SUNYAC Player of the Week for week ending Feb.23rd. The write up says it was his 3rd win but I believe it was his just 2nd win. He won it for the week ending December 22nd as well.

It marked the 6th time that a Cortland player (Austin Grunnder with 3 of those) won the award. Potsdam won it 5 times (Isaiah brown with 4 weekly awards), New Paltz, Brockport and Oswego each had 1 win.   

Here's the write up from the SUNYAC website:

"CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) has named Cortland's Eric Edwards (Binghamton, N.Y.) the PrestoSports Men's Basketball Athlete of the Week for the third time this season. 


Edwards averaged 22.3 points and 11.7 rebounds per game and registered three double-doubles in a 2-1 week for the Red Dragons. He began the week with 25 points and 10 rebounds in a 78-71 win at New Paltz, followed on Friday with 25 points and 12 rebounds in an overtime loss to league leader Brockport. Edwards closed the week with 17 points and a career-high 13 rebounds, along with three assists, in a 64-54 win over visiting Geneseo Saturday."

Congratulations to Eric for another outstanding week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2020, 05:30:24 AM
Feb. 25                               SUNYAC First Round Playoff Games   


Geneseo State  at  Oneonta State        7:00 PM

The Red Dragons swept the season series against Geneseo wnning both games by lopsided margins...35 points and 27 points. Perhaps the Knights will be able to make this one closer than the others. The experts think they will and list them as 15 point road dogs. I watched Oneonta put up 105 points last Saturday. I think they'll win by at least 20.  Oneonta 78 Geneseo 57.   



Cortland State  at  Oswego State        7:00 PM

The rubber match between these two teams will be a knock down, drag out affair. Two hard nosed teams that love to shoot from long range, play solid defense, and don't quit. Hard to pick the winner here. The oddsmakers give the edge to Oswego by a 3 point margin.

The Lakers will need to limit the Red Dragons' two big men Austin Grunder and Eric Edwards. When Oswego won they held that pair to just 29 points. When the Lakers lost, Grunder and Edwards combined for 50 points (32 & 18).

Cortland gave up 31 points to Jeremiah Sparks in the loss to the Lakers. In the rematch Cortland held Sparks scoreless and they prevailed, but Joe Sullivan and Brandan Gartland had big games for Oswego, just not big enough.

I think the Lakers will get a stronger game from Sparks and will be a bit better from long range than the Red Dragons will be. Fouls could hamper the Cortland bigs. I'll go with Oswego in this one by a 76-72 final score. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: All-Time on February 25, 2020, 12:00:38 PM
If Magicman's crystal ball is correct, my wish of Potsdam vs Oneonta will come true!!!
It's just happening in the Semi-Finals instead of the Championship.

Looks like the Final 4 will be Incredible.

Looking forward to the games.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2020, 02:41:23 PM
The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
Cortland leads Oswego 37-30 at the half.

Jake DiSanto has the hot hand for the Red Dragons as he goes 4 for 5 from downtown and leads all scorers with 14 points. Brendan Fitzpatrick has 7 points and 6 assists. Austin Grunder with 6 points and 5 rebounds.

Jamal Achille leads the Lakers with 8 points and 5 rebounds. Joe Sullivan with 7 points and 4 rebounds.
Brandan Gartland with 6 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2020, 07:46:03 PM
Oneonta 34 Geneseo 25 at halftime.

Kevin Mackin with 11 points to lead Oneonta as he drains 3 of 4 from deep.  Harrison Deegan has 8 points, 4 rebounds and 2 assists. He was 2x2 from long range.  Dylan Trombley with 8 points 2 rebounds and 2 assists. Also 2x3 from distance. Ian Schultz with 5 points and 7 rebounds.


Geneseo is led by Elijah Wingfield with 7 points and 2 rebounds.  Alex Merhige has 6 points, 4 rebounds and 3 blocks.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2020, 08:23:40 PM
Oneonta defeats Geneseo 81-54
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 25, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
Oswego State defeats Cortland by a 74-67 final score.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2020, 07:25:56 AM
Oneonta State 81  Geneseo State 54

I had Oneonta winning by a 78-57 final score so I was pretty close to the actual final.

The Red Dragons didn't waste any time getting a leg up as they jumped out to a quick 10-0 lead. The Knights chipped away at that lead and eventually got within a single possession, at 18-15, with 7:22 left in the first half. A Carson Jacobs layup, and a Harrison Deegan triple bumped the lead back to 8 points, as Oneonta coasted to a 9 point halftime advantage at 34-25.

The Knights were still down 9 when Alex Merhige hit a trey to close the gap to 40-34, with 15:33 left. That's when the Red Dragons went on a 14-2 run to break the game wide open. Suddenly it was 54-36 and it was no longer who would win, but how big the margin would be. The game was never close after that as the Red Dragons claimed the win.

Oneonta
Dylan Trombley captured scoring honors with 19 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists and a block. He was 5x8 from long distance.
Ian Schultz had a double-double of 18 points and a game high 11 rebounds.
Harrison Deegan had 18 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and a block. He was 2x2 from deep.
Kevin Mackin had 16 points with 4 triples.
Andres Rivera had 8 rebounds, 6 points, 4 assists, 2 blocks and a steal.

Geneseo
Michael Gannon had 18 points and 5 rebounds.
Alex Merhige had 13 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 blocks.
Terence Rogers had 8 points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals.

#3 seed Oneonta improved to 19-7 overall and will meet #2 seed Potsdam on Friday evening at 5:30 in Brockport.

Geneseo finished the year with a 9-17 mark. They will return 4 starters for next year and should be contenders once again for a playoff spot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 26, 2020, 07:27:35 AM
Oswego State 74  Cortland State 67

I had the Lakers winning 76-72 so I wasn't far off from the final score. I said the key would be limiting the Cortland duo of Grunder and Edwards to the 29 points they scored, when Oswego beat Cortland, instead of the 50 points the duo scored, when Cortland won the rematch. The Lakers did even better, as they held the 2 big men for Cortland to just 20 points combined.

Oswego got a balanced scoring effort from their starting five, led by a big 2nd half from Liam Sanborn. They managed to turn a 7 point halftime deficit into a 7 point win, as they outscored Cortland 44-30 in the 2nd period. Sanborn had 22 of his game high 26 points in that stanza as he was 8x14 from the field including 4x7 from long distance.

Cortland scored the first basket of the 2nd half to extend their lead to 39-30, the largest of the game for either team. Sanborn then made his first triple to cut the deficit to 6 points. After Cortland scored inside he buried another triple, but Cortland's Ben Walters answered with a three pointer to keep the lead at 8 points, 44-36. Sanborn hit a third straight 3 pointer and after both teams came up empty Sanborn was fouled on a 3 point attempt. He made 2 of 3 from the line to bring the Lakers within 3 points at 44-41. On the Lakers next possession he hit a jumper to close the gap to a single point. Eric Edwards scored inside for Cortland to boost the lead back to 3 points, but Joe Sullivan hit a jumper for Oswego and after Cortland missed on their end, Brandan Gartland drained a threeball and the Lakers were in front 48-46 with 12 minutes left in the game. They never trailed again. Jeremiah Sparks nailed another three pointer after Cortland missed on their possession and Sanborn followed with another jumper to extend the lead to 53-46, the largest Laker lead of the night. Several times the Red Dragons narrowed the lead to a single possession, the last time at 59-56 with 7:24 left to play. Each time Oswego had an answer and after Cortland got within 5 points at 70-65,  Sanborn's jumper with a minute left was the clincher.

Oswego
Liam Sanborn led all scorers with 26 points, 7 rebounds and 3 blocks.
Joe Sullivan had 14 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, a steal and a block.
Jeremiah Sparks had 12 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.
Brandan Gartland had 12 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists.
Jamal Achille had 10 points and 9 rebounds.

Cortland
Brendan Fitzpatrick led the team with 24 points, 7 assists, 2 rebounds and a steal.
Jake DiSanto had 14 points and 2 rebounds.
Austin Grunder had a double-double of 10 points and 10 rebounds.
Eric Edwards had 10 points and 7 rebounds.

The shooting percentages were fairly even in all 3 areas. Both teams had 9 assists and turnovers were close as Cortland had 9 and Oswego 10. Lakers had an edge in the rebounding battle with a 40 to 27 advantage.
Oswego relied heavily on their starting five as they got 188 of the 200 minutes and scored all the points.

The Lakers raise their overall record to 19-8 and will now face #1 seed Brockport on Friday night at 7:30 PM in Brockport.

Cortland ends their season with a 17-9 overall record. They bring back a lot of talent for next year and should be in the mix for the top spot in the conference.   
     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 27, 2020, 09:12:54 PM
SUNYAC Final 4 at Brockport starts at 5:30 tomorrow.

Opener has Oneonta #3 seed vs. Potsdam #2 seed.  Teams split season series, Dragons won in December at Dewar Arena by a 62-60 margin on an Ian Schultz jumper with :04 left; in a game the Bears played without leading scorers Isaiah Brown and Jayquan Thomas.

Bears handled the Dragons at Jerry Welsh Gym last Friday by a 91-83 count, as Freshman center Tyrese Baptiste had a huge game with 28 points and 15 rebounds in 29 minutes, Brown added 27 in that tilt to counter 23 by Dragon senior guard Kevin Mackin. Bears extended to a 13 point second half lead and withstood several Dragon comebacks to prevail.

Nightcap has #4 seed Oswego visiting the East Region #1 Golden Eagles.  They have played two nail biters, 'port triumphed in December at Vlogianitis Gym  68-67 on a Jahidi Wallace FT with :08 left, and the Lakers took them to overtime last Saturday before dropping an 80-85 decision at Laker Hall, with Wallace again leading the way for the Eagles with 6 FT's in the extra session.

These 4 teams have played 4 games this season, total margin 16 points, should be a great evening of playoff basketball.


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2020, 10:55:45 PM
I wonder how the massive amount of snow expected around the Great Lakes could affect things ...
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2020, 06:55:57 AM
Feb. 28                           SUNYAC SEMIFINALS at Brockport State   


#3 Oneonta State  vs  #2 Potsdam State        5:30 PM

The rubber match between two closely matched teams. Each team won on their home court, but Potsdam was a different team the first time they met in Oneonta as they were missing their top two scorers. Oneonta was able to stay close to the Bears in Potsdam despite the new additions to their team and it was just a 2 possession game near the end of that one.

Three point shooting will be on display as the teams combined for 60 attempts from long distance in their last game. Bears will need to keep an eye on Kevin Mackin who is 20x41 from deep in his last three games. Potsdam's Isaiah Brown will counter Mackin as he's been 16x38 from behind the arc, over his last 4 games.

Potsdam, coming off a loss to last place New Paltz, where they allowed 100 points, will need a much better defensive effort to get by the Red Dragons. Oneonta will need to limit the touches Bears' big man, Tyrese Baptiste, gets in the paint. He torched them for 28 points and 15 boards last week.

The oddsmakers think this one is coming down to the wire and have made Oneonta a 1 point favorite. I also believe it will be a close game but have to go with the Bears. Potsdam 86 Oneonta 82.   
   


   
#4 Oswego State  at  #1 Brockport State        7:30 PM

Round three in this rivalry will probably give us another great matchup but it will be hard to beat the last two games these teams have played against each other. The December meeting resulted in a 1 point Brockport win that was only decided when Oswego's final shot got blocked at the buzzer. The game last week took an overtime period to decide, after Oswego hit a game tying 3 pointer, to force the extra session. Brockport won that one as well. Which bring us to that old axiom..."It's hard to beat a team 3 times in a season"....Or is it?

Bob Walsh, who used to coach Division III Rhode Island College in the Little East conference, went 12-1 when he had to play a school his team had already beaten twice. This is what he had to say..."So by my 4th or 5th year, when we had been in that situation a few times, I just gave my guys the numbers. I'd say two things.  1) It's not that hard if you are better than they are, and 2) We don't have to beat them 3 times this week. We only have to beat them once."  Sound advice from a very good coach

Speaking of very good coaches... we have four of the SUNYAC's best on display in the 2 games today.

Oswego has pulled off some upsets in the playoffs since Coach Leone took over the program and beating the top seed, today, is a strong possibility. The Lakers came from behind on Tuesday night to defeat Cortland, and they know they can win in Brockport as they sport a 6-4 record in their last 10 visits.

The Golden Eagles are peaking at the right time. They have won 15 games in a row which is the 5th longest, current, winning streak in all of Division III. They won most of those games without their leading scorer, Justin Summers, who has now returned to the lineup. His minutes have been limited but he's still been able to contirbute. The depth of Brockport has been their biggest plus and their defense never quits.

The oddsmakers have made Brockport an 8 point favorite in this one. I picked Brockport to win the regular season crown and they did, quite handily. I think they take care of business today as well. Brockport 77 Oswego 72.             
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2020, 06:21:28 PM
Potsdam 36 Oneonta 36 at the half.


Jayquan Thomas has 13 points to lead the Bears. Isaiah Brown has 10 points and 3 rebounds. Tyrese Baptiste working on another double-double has 7 points and 8 rebounds. Danny Delsol-Lowry with 6 points and 2 assists.

Harrison Deegan leads Oneonta with 11 points and 4 rebounds.  Kevin Mackin with 9 points and 3 rebounds. Balanced scoring from the Red Dragons as 8 players have scored so far.

Potsdam had the largest lead early on as they led 12-5 and 14-7. Oneonta came back to take their first lead at 20-19. That was followed by 3 more lead changes and 4 ties through the end of the period.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2020, 07:15:44 PM
Potsdam 75 Oneonta 72  Final score.  Great game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 28, 2020, 08:36:58 PM
Brockport leads Oswego 38-23  at the break.

A closely contested game for the first 14 minutes of the half with 4 ties and 3 lead changes. Brockport was up 22-20 with 6:12 to play but opened up a 30-23 lead on back to back drives to the basket by Danny Ashley. Oswego came up empty and Monty Stroman scored on a layup to widen the lead. Seconds later the Lakers turned it over and Justin Summers scored inside. Oswego then had what appeared to be a wide open layup but Summers came out of nowhere to block the shot, which resulted in a fast break dunk by Jahidi Wallace. Oswego missed again on their possession and Wallace got another layin with 3 seconds left.

Brockport got 10 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds from Danny Ashley. Tyler Collins had 6 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists. Justin Summers had 6 points, 3 rebounds and 2 blocks.


Oswego gets 9 points from  Jamal Achille. Joe Sullivan had 5 points and 4 rebounds.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2020, 02:59:07 AM
Brockport State 82  Owego State 67  Final score.



SUNYAC Championship  #2 Potsdam State  at #1 Brockport State Saturday at 4:00 PM
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 29, 2020, 06:26:15 AM
This should be a great SUNYAC final. Two very athletic teams that have split their regular season matchups. Of course, I am hoping for a Bport victory but Potsdam's Issiah Brown is the man. Their big man creates some problems for the Eagles too. Hopefully Coach Dunne and the staff will have them ready to go!!! We don't want to have to count on that at large bid as it is never a guarantee. Good luck, Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on February 29, 2020, 07:51:58 AM
Of course it would be nice to cut down the nets tonight for Brockport. I really don't think a loss hurts in any way though. After winning 16 in a row and winning the sunyac and being 7-1 against regional ranked teams. I'm pretty sure they are a lock to host a pod first round. After that I have no idea. With that said no one wants someone else cutting down the nets in its own gym. 79-71 Port
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2020, 09:41:13 AM
Potsdam State 75  Oneonta State 72

Great game to watch and one that was competitve from start to finish. Neither team could break away as they battled back and forth throughout. The final score was close to my prediction of a 4 point Potsdam win.   

After a 36-36 first half, that had numerous ties and lead changes, the 2nd period continued right where the teams left off. Potsdam scored to go in front, Oneonta countered with a 3 point play. Potsdam scored on a layup inside, Oneonta hit a three pointer, and over the next 15 minutes neither team had more than a one possession lead. There were 10 lead changes and 3 ties during that stretch. The teams were tied at 50-50 when Andres Rivera scored inside to put the Red Dragons back in front. Jayquan Thomas then drained a triple for Potsdam only to have Rivera score with another layup on the next Oneonta trip down the court. It was 54-53 with 10:44 to play and it was the last time the Red Dragons had the lead. Thomas scored inside for the Bears 10 seconds later and after Oneonta came up empty, Tyrese Baptiste scored for Potsdam to make it 57-54.

Potsdam was still ahead 59-58 when the Bears' Isaiah Brown, went to the line for a pair of free throws, with 6:39 left to play. He made them both to put Potsdam up by 3 points and when Oneonta missed on their end, Potsdam's Thomas hit another jumper, that gave the Bears the first 2 possession lead, that either team enjoyed in the period. Over the course of the next few minutes every time Oneonta scored to make it a one possession game, Potsdam had an answer to bring the lead back to 4 or 5 points.

With the Bears up 72-67 after another score by Thomas, Oneonta again came up empty and Potsdam's Danny Delsol-Lowry was fouled. He made both free throws to extend the lead to 7 points with just 24 seconds left. The Red Dragons did not go quietly into the night. Rivera went coast to coast for a layup to cut the lead to 5 and Oneonta took a time out with 19 seconds left. On the ensuing inbounds play Oneonta's Dylan Trombley stole the ball and got it to Kevin Mackin, who buried a three pointer to cut the lead to 2 points at 74-72, with 9 ticks left. Oneonta used their last time out and quickly fouled Aaron Armstrong  when play resumed. Armstrong missed the first one but made the 2nd to make it 75-72 and Potsdam called a time out. Now the question was....would Potsdam foul before Oneonta could take a 3 point shot or let it play out. Potsdam chose to foul with 2 seconds left just after Oneonta crossed halfcourt and the question about making the 1st and missing the 2nd on purpose became a moot point, when the Red Dragons missed the first free throw, which was the front end of a one and one. Potsdam got the rebound and the game was over.

Statiscally the game was pretty even as the shooting percentages were fairly close. Rebounds were dead even at 39 each. Oneonta had 12 turnovers to 10 for Potsdam. Both teams had 29 made field goals with the Red Dragons sinking 9 from long range to 5 for the Bears. Potsdam offset that long distance edge with more  made free throws...12 of 18 for Potsdam, to 5 of 9 for Oneonta. Oneonta had 15 assists and Potsdam had 16. Both teams had 5 blocks. Potsdam had 6 steals, Oneonta had 5. Not much separation between two good teams.

Potsdam
Jayquan Thomas captured scoring honors with 27 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 steals.
Danny Delsol-Lowry had 17 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 steals.
Isaiah Brown had 17 points, 4 rebounds and 1 assist.
Tyrese Baptiste had another double-double of 13 points a game high 14 rebounds, a game high 4 blocks, 2 assists and a steal.
Aaron Armstrong had 9 rebounds, 5 assists, a block and the biggest point of the night, the Bears' final one, that gave them a 3 point lead.


Oneonta
Andres Rivera led Oneonta with a double -double of 16 points and 10 rebounds. He added 3 assists and 3 blocks.
Kevin Mackin had 15 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a block.
Harrison Deegan had 14 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.
Dylan Trombley had 12 points, a game high 6 assists, 4 rebounds and a steal.
Ian Schultz had 8 rebounds 4 points, an assist and a block.
Carson Jacobs had 8 points off the bench in 12 minutes on the court.

Potsdam improves to 20-6 overall and will face Brockport in the SUNYAC Championship game today at 4:00 PM

Oneonta ends their season with a 19-8 record. They will return 4 of their top 7 players for next season and will once again be in contention for the playoffs.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2020, 09:42:15 AM
Brockport State 82  Oswego State 67

This game didn't turn out to be the nailbiter everyone thought it would be as Brockport ran away from the Lakers with a 15 point win. I had the Golden Eagles winning by a 5 point margin but first half shooting woes by the Lakers put them behind the 8 ball and they couldn't recover.

The game was really won in the final 6 minutes of the first half. That's when Brockport, up 22-20, put together a 16-3 run to build a halftime lead of 15 points. They held the Lakers scoreless for the final 4 minutes of the half as they scored 12 unanswered points.

Needing to cut into that lead, coming out of the break, the Lakers instead, slowly fell further behind. Four minutes into the period they trailed by 20 and Port reached their largest lead of the game at 22 points with 13:52 to play. For the next 7 minutes the lead stayed between 19 and 22 points. The Lakers did manage to make a late 11-3 run as a three pointer cut the deficit to 12 points at 79-67 with 1:35 left. That would be the last time Oswego scored. Brockport hit some free throws to make the final score of 82-67.

Brockport shot 61% (36x59) from the field and that's the main reason for the double digit win. Oswego, after a 9x33 first half effort (27.27%), did shoot much better in the 2nd period going 16x28 to raise their overall percentage to 41%. Neither team was strong from long distance as Brockport was only 2x12 and Oswego was 6x20. Oswego got 11 points from the stripe and Brockport got 8. Brockport had a slight edge in rebounds 34-30 and also in turnovers as the Golden Eagles had 10 giveaways to 12 for the Lakers. Brockport shared the ball well and had 20 assists to 13 for Oswego.

Brockport
Tyler Collins had 18 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals.
Danny Ashley had 18 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists.
Justin Summers had 12 points, 4 rebounds and 5 blocks in 20 minutes of court time off the bench.
Tyree Grimsley had 10 points, 1 rebound and 1 assist in 14 minutes off the bench.


Oswego
Jamal Achille had a game high 19 points and 4 rebounds.
Joe Sullivan had 16 points, a game high 7 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.
Jeremiah Sparks had 9 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.

Brockport stretches their winning streak to 16 straight games and is now 23-3 overall. They will meet Potsdam in the SUNYAC Championship later today at 4:00 PM


Oswego falls to 19-8 overall and will wait to see if they can get an at large bid to the NCAA Tournament. The odds of that happening are quite slim as the Lakers were in the #7 spot in the latest Regional Rankings. Only 2 of the 6 teams ahead of them will get automatic bids into the NCAA's. That would still leave at least 3 teams ahead of them for an at large bid and possibly as many as 5 when the next set of rankings is released . (A set that will not be released to the public until after the NCAA field has been determined) Since the East Region will get, at the most, 2 at large bids (and maybe only 1) I don't think the Lakers will be dancing this year. They'll be back next year and fighting for the top spot...they always are.   

     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on February 29, 2020, 12:51:33 PM
#2 Potsdam State   at   #1 Brockport State  4:00 PM    SUNYAC CHAMPIONSHIP

I'm hoping we see a similar game to the one that took place in Brockport back on January 31st. That one was a 77-74 Golden Eagle win that went right down to the wire. I'd like another barnburner for today's game.

Both teams came up big on Friday to get to this game. For Brockport it's the 18th time, out of 21 possible appearances, that they have been to the SUNYAC Final Four, since the turn of the century. That includes a run of 7 straight and 13 of the last 14 years. Potsdam hasn't been there since the 2004-05 season. The Bears have only made the playoffs once, since the current format of just the top 6 teams advancing, was put in play.   

The most recent meeting of these teams in the playoffs was last year in a first round game at Brockport and the Golden Eagles prevailed by a 94-88 score. The last time they met in a SUNYAC Championship game was the 2003-04 season and Potsdam was the winner by an 84-76 score. That was the first of two straight SUNYAC titles for the Bears and the 2004-05 title was their last SUNYAC Championship. Brockport has won 4 SUNYAC titles in the past 21 seasons, with their most recent one coming in the 2013-14 season.

Potsdam wasn't high on my list of teams near the top of the YAC when the season started. I had them in the 5th spot when I made out my rankings back in early January. One hour after I posted my rankings that all changed, when Isaiah Brown took the court for the first time in a Bears' uniform. Brockport just happened to be the team in town that night and Brown took the first shot of the game for Potsdam. It went in and Isaiah hasn't stopped shooting ever since. He put up 26 and 7 that night and Potsdam gave the Golden Eagles their only conference loss of the season 86-70. Potsdam had a star, to add to the solid starters that were already in place. The Bears have went 14-3 since Brown joined the team. With a loss in this game and a 20-7 record they will be on the bubble to get an at large bid. I don't think they get one. They need a win to go dancing. Seniors Jayquan Thomas and Danny Delsol-Lowry both need to have big games tonight, comparable to yesterday's performance. Big man Tyrese Baptiste needs to  stay out of foul trouble. The Bears bench is extremely short. 

Brockport is better than ever and may improve more as the season goes on. That's because Justin Summers is improving with each game. Coming back from an injury and getting up to speed is never easy but yesterday he was moving quite well took a few nasty spills and it didn't seem to bother him. He was a force in the paint as he blocked 5 shots and had to affect a few more. The guard duo of Tyler Collins and Danny Ashley have been able to penetrate and score inside or dish to the bigs. The rest of the starters and top bench players all can score and play defense. The depth of the Golden Eagles has been the best in the conference and it complements the defensive pressure that is a hallmark of Coach Dunne's teams. Defense wins championships and Brockport will bring it. I picked Brockport to finish at the top of the standings when I made out my list. And after seeing Brown in action for Potsdam I quickly revised my list to put Potsdam right below the Golden Eagles. So here we go with the top two teams playing for the Golden Ticket.

The oddsmakers have made Brockport a solid 8 point choice in this game and it's not hard to see the reasons why. They have the comforts of home, will have their fan base cheering them on, have a much deeper rotation than the Bears, have their preseason All American back in the lineup and haven't lost in 16 straight games. What's not to like? I really would like to see Brockport win this game. I like Coach Dunne and would love to see him add another championship to his record. I also went to college at Potsdam State and my alma mater hasn't been this good in a long, long time. I like Coach Bechtel and know how hard he's worked to turn this program around, so I'm rooting for the Bears to win this game. I also would like to see two SUNYAC teams make the NCAA tournament. I don't think that will happen if Brockport wins the automatic bid. I'm pretty sure that the Golden Eagles are already dancing and will get an at large bid. I think they might even host. The only way we get a 2nd team in the NCAA tournament is if Potsdam wins this game. So despite the fact that Brockport has many things in their favor, the Bears are playing for their playoff life. They have more motivation....I hope that's enough. They should have won the last time they were in Brockport on January 31st and they gave that one away. I think they make up for it tonight. Potsdam State 77   Brockport 74.         

       
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 29, 2020, 04:59:53 PM
Brockport 54 Potsdam 34 Halftime
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 29, 2020, 11:33:16 PM
Congrats to Brockport on winning the SUNYAC Championship!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 02, 2020, 09:07:45 AM
SUNYAC Championship

Brockport State102  Potsdam State 75

The best thing to say about this game is "Well Done" to the Brockport Golden Eagles. They were a fine tuned machine just humming along on all cylinders from start to finish.

The Golden Eagles took command of this game from the opening tip, racing out to an 11-2 lead. They continued to lead by 7 to 9 points and were up 20-11, when the Bears got a mini burst from their 2 big men to get within 4 points at 22-18 with 10:25 left in the half. That was as close as they got. Justin Summers and Danny Ashley scored for Brockport to build the lead back to 8 points. Potsdam got back to back layups from Tyrese Baptiste 30 seconds apart to once again whittle the lead to 4 points, but 8 unanswered points from the Golden Eagles made it 34-22 with 7 minutes left in the period and the Bears never got it back to single digits the rest of the game. Still up by 11, at 43-32 with 3:14 left, Brockport ended the half with an 11-2 run and went into the break up by a 54-34 score.

If Potsdam had hopes of cutting into the lead and making a game out of this, those hopes didn't last long as Brockport quickly built the lead to 27 points at 65-38. The Bears would show some semblance of a rally as they cut the lead down to 19 points at the 12:31 mark and several minutes later after the teams exchanged baskets on several possessions, the Bears got within 17 points at 73-56 with 10:42 left to play. It was all Brockport after that as the Golden Eagles stretched their advantage to as many as 33 points.

I knew going into this game that Brockport would probably win it. I wanted 2 teams in the Dance and a Potsdam win was probably the only way that could happen so I chose what I wanted, not what I knew and picked my alma mater to win. But I knew it probably wouldn't happen because the Bears would have to be almost perfect to pull off the upset. It's hard to be perfect against the aggressive defense that the Golden Eagles come at you with. Potsdam didn't shoot well from long range and had 22 turnovers, because of that defense.

Brockport dominated the stats in every category. That's what happens when you beat a team 102-75 and nothing else needs to be said about that.

Congratulations to Brockport and Coach Greg Dunne on an OUTSTANDING SEASON.  I hope you have a nice run in the NCAA Tournament. Carry the torch for the YAC. The basketball gods owe you some good fortune after the way the 2013-14 season ended. I'm hoping we run into Wooster somewhere down the road because we owe them one, for that narrow loss in Florida back in December.

SUNYAC All-Tournament Team
Brockport's Tyler Collins was selected as the MVP of the SUNYAC Tournament.
Brockport's Justin Summers
Brockport's Danny Ashley 
Brockport'sDevante Hagins 
Potsdam's Isaiah Brown
Potsdam's Tyrese Baptiste

Brockport
Tyler Collins captured scoring honors with 23 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals. The Tournament MVP must feel great after he lost most of last year to an injury and decided to come back for another year after receiving a medical redshirt. Good for him. 8-)

Devante Hagins had a double-double of 18 points and 13 rebounds, saving his best for the big game as they were both season highs. He added 4 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks.

Jahidi Wallace had 14 points 5 rebounds and 2 blocks.

Danny Ashley had 13 points, 6 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal.

Montgomery Stroman had 10 points, 3 rebounds, an assist, a steal and a block in 21 minutes.

Justin Summers had 10 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a steal in 15 minutes of court time. I'm happy he was able to come back from a mid-season injury and get to play in the Conference Tournament. He wasn't 100 % but he still played like an All American. 8-)




Potsdam
Isaiah Brown had 20 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block.

Tyrese Baptiste had 19 points, 8 rebounds and a block.

Jayquan Thomas had 14 points, 3 assists and a steal.

Danny Delsol-Lowry had 6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and 1 assist.

Aaron Armstrong had 2 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks.

Brockport improves to 24-3 overall and continues to lengthen their winning streak which now stands at 17 straight. They should move up a few spots in the D3hoops Top 25 poll when it gets released tonight.

Hopefully when the NCAA Selection Show takes place today at 12:30 PM we'll find that Brockport has been selected as a host site. Go Brockport!


Potsdam falls to 20-7 overall but is 20-6 for selection purposes since the loss to D1 Albany won't be factored in. Unfortunately with RPI's loss to Ithaca in the Liberty League Tournament Championship, I think both RPI and Hobart will be ranked above the Bears in the latest set of Regional Rankings, that are used for the at large selections. I think Potsdam's season is over but would sure like to be wrong about that.

The Bears lose 3 starters from this year's team but will have their two big men, Isaiah Brown and Tyrese Baptiste back next year. Waiting in the wings to join them is Brandon Segar Jr. who only played in 4 games this year but was their leading scorer during that period. They will be a threat to finish high in the SUNYAC next year.

Congratulations to the Bears and Coach Jim Bechtel on a great year as Potsdam posted their first 20 win season in 15 years. 2004-05 was the last time Potsdam posted 20 wins. The graduating seniors were 3-22 as freshmen and steadily improved each year as they won 11 games then 14 games leading up to this year's campaign. Go Bears!         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on March 03, 2020, 11:46:17 AM
Phil Seymore out after 7 seasons as head coach at Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 03, 2020, 12:32:47 PM
Classy guy, from the John Beilein and Tim Welsh coaching tree. 

Wish him well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2020, 06:03:39 AM
Brockport State has moved up to #18 in the latest D3hoops Top 25 Poll. Last week the Golden Eagles were #23 with 100 points and this week received 184 points, to jump over 5 teams and move up in the rankings.

RPI dropped out of the Top 25 and is now getting just 28 points in the Others Receiving Votes category.

Ithaca, after beating RPI for the 2nd time in 3 meetings this season, and winning the Liberty League Tournament, along with the automatic NCAA bid, moved into the ORV category with 2 points.

No othere East Region teams were mentioned.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2020, 11:04:19 AM
Glad to see that #18 Brockport (24-3) got to host a 4 team pod in the NCAA Tournament. Like the Golden Eagles, the team they play on Friday night seems to be peaking at the right time. For the 2nd game in a row, Brockport will have to play the Bears, only this time it's the Coast Guard Bears (14-13) from the NEWMAC Conference.

Brockport handled the last Bears team they faced quite easily as Potsdam State fell behind early and never put any pressure on Brockport. I'm hoping that the Golden Eagles can sustain their run and play into next weekend and beyond.   

The Coast Guard Bears have won seven in a row, including 3 conference tournament wins, as they were the last team to make the NEWMAC playoffs. They had to play the 4th seed, Emerson College, to make the semifinals and won that game 80-78. Then they defeated #14th ranked and top seeded Springfield College, 88-82 in the semifinals and finished their run by edging the #2 seed, WPI, 89-86 in overtime, in the championship game, to get the automatic NCAA bid. Two weeks ago WPI was ranked #21 in the D3hoops Top 25 poll, so Coast Guard is no fluke team getting lucky, as they beat some great teams on their way to the Dance. I want the Golden Eagles to put an end to these Bears like they did to the last Bears team they faced.

Also in the pod at Brockport is a first round game between Westfield State (20-7), the regular season and tournament champions of the MASCAC conference, and #21 Middlebury College (20-5), an at large team from the NESCAC conference.

Middlebury was ranked as high as #3 in the country earlier in the season but has slipped in the rankings as they lost some key games in the tough NESCAC conference and then lost a first round playoff game. They lost 3 of their big men at different points of the season but still have a potent lineup and will be a threat to whoever they play.

The Panthers own wins over Tufts University, Springfield College, Stevens Tech, New England College and SUNY-Canton, all teams that will play in the NCAA tournament. I did a quick check and couldn't find anyone else in the tournament that has beaten 5 different teams headed to the Big Dance. Impressive stat by the Panthers.

I wish they were in a different bracket because they are my favorite team outside the SUNYAC conference. Theoretically, on paper anyways, Brockport and Middlebury should both win first round games and meet in Saturday's 2nd round contest. I'm not happy about that, but do hope they both win their first round matchups.   

One interesting fact is that Middlebury has a former All Conference selection from the SUNYAC on the team. Tommy Eastman, who spent 2 years at Geneseo, and was an All Conference selection in his sophomore season, joined the Panthers this year as a junior. Eastman didn't play ball last year but is now starting for Middlebury. He didn't start in the first 12 games as he averaged 20 minutes a game with 8.9 ppg and 5.6 rpg. After the Panthers had some personnel problems Eastman took over as a starter and in the final 13 games of the season averaged 30 minutes a game, 17.6 ppg and 7.0 rpg. Those are All Conference stats in any league.   

Westfield State is not a team to sleep on either. The Owls, champions of the MASCAC, defeated Liberty League regular season champs RPI, 78-52 and 10 days later defeated Amherst 68-67. Just to put that in persepective...Amherst defeated Middlebury 81-69. Bridgewater State, the 4th place team from the MASCAC played Middlebury, in Middlebury, when the Panthers had everybody healthy and barely managed to eke out a victory 85-81. Westfield State defeated Bridgewater State twice, 99-71 and 96-82. So this game should be a competitive contest.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2020, 03:13:53 PM
Time to post my SUNYAC All Conference selections.

SUNYAC Player of the Year      Isaiah Brown

SUNYAC Rookie of the Year     Austin Grunder

SUNYAC Coach of the Year  Coach Greg Dunne for leading Brockport to a SUNYAC Regular Season Title and SUNYAC Tournament Championship. 
   

First Team
Isaiah Brown         So.         Potsdam
Austin Grunder      So.         Cortland
Kevin Mackin         Sr.          Oneonta
Jahidi Wallace       So.          Brockport
Joe Sullivan          Sr.           Oswego


Second Team
Travis Cox            Jr.            Plattsburgh
Tyler Collins         Gr.           Brockport
Justin Summers   Sr.            Brockport
Jayquan Thomas  Sr.            Potsdam
Michael Gannon   So.           Geneseo


Third Team
Eric Edwards       Jr.             Cortland
Andres Rivera     Jr.             Oneonta
Harrison Deegan  Sr.            Oneonta
Jeremiah Sparks  Fr.            Oswego   
Brendan Fitzpatrick  Sr.        Cortland
     

Fourth Team
Danny Ashley          So.        Brockport     
Joe Bull                   Jr          Oneonta
Sheldon Adams        Sr.         Buffalo State
Tyrese Baptiste        Fr.         Potsdam
Danny Delsol-Lowry Sr.         Potsdam

Honorable Mention
Dydy Bryan              Jr.        Fredonia             
Jordan Christopher   Jr.         Buffalo State
Tristan Wissemann   Sr.        New Paltz
Brandan Gartland     Sr        Oswego
Nick DeAngelis         Sr.        Plattsburgh
Liam Sanborn          Jr.         Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2020, 07:17:17 PM
Actual SUNYAC all conference team has been named.

2020 SUNYAC Men's Basketball All-Conference Team   
Team   Player         Yr.         School   
1   Isaiah Brown         So.   Potsdam   Player of the Yr.
1   Jahidi Wallace         So.   Brockport   
1   Kevin Mackin         Sr.      Oneonta   
1   Joe Sullivan         Sr.      Oswego   
1   Austin Grunder         So.   Cortland   Rookie of the Yr.
            
2   Tyler Collins         Gr.      Brockport   
2   Justin Summers         Sr.   Brockport   
2   Eric Edwards         Jr.   Cortland   
2   Andres Rivera         Jr.   Oneonta   
2   Jayquan Thomas      Sr.   Potsdam   
            
            
3   Brendan Fitzpatrick  Sr.   Cortland   
3   Michael Gannon         So.   Geneseo   
3   Harrison Deegan      Sr.      Oneonta   
3   Joseph Bull         Jr.       Oneonta   
3   Jeremiah Sparks      Fr.       Oswego   
3   Danny DelSol-Lowry Sr.   Potsdam   

Coach of the Year: Greg Dunne, Brockport

Well done all, having seen everyone here play, solid choices, and lots of underclassmen to look forward to going forward
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 06, 2020, 10:28:19 AM
Good Luck to my Golden Eagles this weekend!!! One win at a time and keep it rolling!!! One for all and All of One!!! The new season has begun enjoy it---Coach A
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on March 06, 2020, 12:37:57 PM
Quote from: scooterman on March 06, 2020, 10:28:19 AM
Good Luck to my Golden Eagles this weekend!!! One win at a time and keep it rolling!!! One for all and All of One!!! The new season has begun enjoy it---Coach A

Good luck Scooterman!  Hope they make it to Salem!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2020, 04:57:03 PM
Coast Guard at #18 Brockport State  6:30 PM

I'm hoping the Golden Eagles can stretch their winning streak to 6 more games but will be happy if they can get 3 or 4 more games. The oddsmakers have Brockport winning this game by a 10 point margin. I hope they are correct. I think Brockport wins it as well but not sure if they do so by by 10 points.

Coast Guard played some tough teams down the stretch and played very well. They were 2-6 against WPI, Babson and Springfield, 2 teams that were all ranked in the D3hoops Top 25 for most of the year. They beat Springfield and WPI to get to the Dance and several of the 6 losses to those 3 teams were in overtime or by single digits. Their 14-13 record is misleading because they are a much better team than that record would indicate.

Brockport needs to come out with their full court pressure and get these guys to turn the ball over. The Bears will have a slight height advantage so Brockport needs to use their quickness and athleticism to limit their possessions and get an early lead. They don't want to be playing catch up against these guys. The Bears are playing on house money, because they weren't supposed to be here. They have nothing to lose and will probably play like that. They did manage a big comeback in their last game as they were down by 24 points at halftime and came back to win in overtime to win the conference tournament. So there's no quit in them either.

I'm taking the Golden Eagles to win this game and I expect it to be a high scoring affair. Brockport 88 Coast Guard 81.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2020, 07:47:37 PM
Brockport 47 Coast Guard 43 at the half.

The Golden Eagles get a half court bomb from Tyler Collins with less than a second to go in the period to grab the 4 point halftime lead. Actually think it was longer than halfcourt and might have been with a tenth of a second on the clock as he threw it up. It happened after Collins received an inbounds pass and the camera wasn't even on him as he let it fly, so no one watching the video stream even saw the shot. I didn't think he could catch and shoot it before time expired but he did manage to do it and do it quite well. Hopefully the camera got the shot and it shows up on ESPN's Sport Center's Top Ten plays because it certainly deserves to be there.

Brockport held the early lead of 13-9 but the Coast Guard Bears caught them and went ahead 17-15 with 14:12 left to play. Brockport trailed for most of the next 10 minutes. They tied the score on several occasions but couldn't get the lead back until Jahidi Wallace got a 3 point play with 3:54 left in the half. Tyler Collins got a steal and Justin Summers finished with a dunk to put the Golden Eagles up 39-36. Still up 44-43 with time winding down and the Bears with possession, Brockport managed to keep them off the board with their final shot and set the stage for Collins' heroics.   

Brockport got balanced scoring as Jahidi Wallace led the team with 10 points and 7 rebounds. Tyler Collins had 9 points, 6 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals. Justins Summers and Antonio Alvarez both had 7 points while Devante Hagins had 6 points and 6 rebounds.

Coast Guard got 11 points and 4 rebounds from Justin Kane.   Garrett Drummond had 9 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists. Tyler Perez and  Packy Witkowski had 7 points each.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 07, 2020, 05:26:09 AM
What a great game at Brockport tonight. Props to CG they would not go away. Standing room only at Brockport tonight with over 2000 people. Looking at a bunch of box scores from Fri on no other game was even close to that. Both teams were getting up and down the court and getting after it. Crowd will be just as big tonight if not bigger!! Let's go Port !!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2020, 01:54:17 PM
Brockport 92 Coast Guard 86

The final score was fairly close to the 88-81 Brockport win that I predicted.


Quote from: magicman on March 06, 2020, 07:47:37 PM
Brockport 47 Coast Guard 43 at the half.

The Golden Eagles get a half court bomb from Tyler Collins with less than a second to go in the period to grab the 4 point halftime lead. Actually think it was longer than halfcourt and might have been with a tenth of a second on the clock as he threw it up. It happened after Collins received an inbounds pass and the camera wasn't even on him as he let it fly, so no one watching the video stream even saw the shot. I didn't think he could catch and shoot it before time expired but he did manage to do it and do it quite well. Hopefully the camera got the shot and it shows up on ESPN's Sport Center's Top Ten plays because it certainly deserves to be there.

Brockport held the early lead of 13-9 but the Coast Guard Bears caught them and went ahead 17-15 with 14:12 left to play. Brockport trailed for most of the next 10 minutes. They tied the score on several occasions but couldn't get the lead back until Jahidi Wallace got a 3 point play with 3:54 left in the half. Tyler Collins got a steal and Justin Summers finished with a dunk to put the Golden Eagles up 39-36. Still up 44-43 with time winding down and the Bears with possession, Brockport managed to keep them off the board with their final shot and set the stage for Collins' heroics.
   
First half stats:
Brockport got balanced scoring as Jahidi Wallace led the team with 10 points and 7 rebounds. Tyler Collins had 9 points, 6 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals. Justins Summers and Antonio Alvarez both had 7 points while Devante Hagins had 6 points and 6 rebounds.

Coast Guard got 11 points and 4 rebounds from Justin Kane.   Garrett Drummond had 9 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists. Tyler Perez and  Packy Witkowski had 7 points each.   

The Golden Eagles opened up the second half with a 9-4  burst and shot out to a 9 point lead at 56-47 just under 4 minutes into the period. However, Brockport couldn't pull away as the Bears went on a 13-2 run of their own to take the lead at 60-58 with 12:48 left to play. Brockport got a layup from Tyree Grimsley, a three from Tyler Sullivan and another layup from Grimsley to go back in front 65-60. Still down by 5 points, at 71-66, the Bears got a triple from Packy Witkowski to get within 2 points, but that was the last time Coast Guard was that close. Monty Stroman responded with a three ball of his own and when the Bears missed on their end Stroman scored again inside. Once more the Bears came up empty and Jahidi Wallace sunk 2 free throws to open up a 78-69 lead with 5 minutes to go. The Bears never got closer than 2 possessions after that. Brockport extended the lead to 10 points and went 4 of 6 from the line to close out the game.

Shooting stats were fairly close as Brockport was 34x74 (45.9%) from the field and the Bears were 30x70 (42.9%). Coast Guard had a significant edge from long range as they were 11x31 (35.5%) to 6x19 (31.65) for the winners. Brockport was 18x25 (72.0%) from the line to 15x20 (75.0%) for the Bears.

Brockport won the rebounding battle 47-39 and scored 54 points in the paint to just 36 for Coast Guard. The Golden Eagles had 14 turnovers to 16 for the Bears. Brockport got 26 assists to 17 for Coast Guard.

Brockport
Tyler Collins had 16 points, 9 assists, 2 rebounds, 2 steals and a block.
Justin Summers had 15 points, 3 rebounds, 3 blocks, and a steal in 15 minutes of court time.
Jahidi Wallace had a double-double of 14 points, and 10 rebounds. He also had 2 assists
Devante Hagins also had a double-double of 13 points and 14 rebounds. He added 6 assists, 2 blocks and a steal
Montgomery Stroman had 11 points, 2 rebounds, an assist and a steal in 18 minutes off the bench.
Antonio Alvarez had 10 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal.
Danny Ashley had 8 points, 4 assists and 2 rebounds.
Tyree Grimsly had 7 rebounds, 4 points, an assist and a steal.

Coast Guard
Packy Witkowski had 18 points to capture scoring honors. He added 7 rebounds, an assist and a block.
Justin Kane had 17 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist and a steal.
Noah Baldez had 16 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals.
Sean Graytok had 12 points and 2 assists.
Tyler Perez had 9 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals and 2 blocks.


#18 Brockport extends their unbeaten streak to 18 straight games, which is the 2nd longest current unbeaten streak in Division III. Their overall record stands at 25-3. Brockport has not lost at home all year and are 14-0 in Vlogianitis Gymnasium. They will look to continue that streak later today when they take on the Middlebury College Panthers at 4:00 PM.

Sadly, Tyler Collins' big 3 point bomb from half court at the buzzer to end the first half wasn't on ESPN Sports Center last night. They had a number of basketball plays, none of which had the wow factor of Tyler's amazing shot. Maybe it wasn't on because no one sent it to them. They missed the boat on that one. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2020, 02:46:25 PM
Middlebury College at Brockport State       6:30 PM

This one should be another great basketball game between two well coached teams that always finish at or near the top of their conference standings.

Middlebury received an at large bid to the Dance and last night defeated Westfield State by a 78-69 final score to reach the round of 32. They improved their overall record to 21-5. One of their best players should feel right at home in the Brockport gym as he spent his first 2 years of college ball playing a short distance away at Geneseo State. Tommy Eastman sat out last year and transferred to Middlebury this year as a junior. He received Second Team All Conference consideration as a sophomore for Geneseo and has played in the Brockport gym on several occasions. His last appearance here with Geneseo resulted in a double-double of 23 points, 15 rebounds, 3 assists and a steal. Last night as a Middlebury Panther he came close to repeating that effort as he torched Westfield State for 19 points, 15 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 blocks. Eastman apparently feels quite comfortable in the Brockport gym. Since being inserted in the Panthers starting lineup in early January Eastman has been their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder. 

Middlebury has defeated 6 different teams that are in the NCAA tournament, more than any one in the country. They will be a big obstacle for the Golden Eagles to get by. The oddsmakers have made Brockport a  slim 4 point favorite in this one. I think it will also be a tight game with Brockport getting a little separation with a few minutes left. I think the final score will be Brockport 85 Middlebury 79.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on March 07, 2020, 11:01:47 PM
props to Brockport...the Golden Eagles are having one hell of a season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 08, 2020, 12:56:51 AM
The host sites for the men's Sweet 16 have been released: https://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2020/bracket and game times: https://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2019-20/ncaa-tournament?date=2020-03-13 and https://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2019-20/ncaa-tournament?date=2020-03-14
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2020, 01:03:19 AM
Brockport 84 Middlebury 81   Final score

Great game from start to finish. Congratulations to the Golden Eagles for making the Sweet 16.

Since the sectionals this year are a bit unusal, because the Elite Eight round and the national semifinals will be played at Fort Wayne, Indiana, I think it means that 8 schools will host a single game next weekend instead of 4 sites hosting a pair of games. That gives Brockport an excellent chance to host their next game which will be against Tufts. I may be wrong about 8 teams hosting a single game, though, because I don't think they have ever done it quite like this before. They may still send 4 teams to 4 different sites.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 08, 2020, 01:04:00 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2020, 01:03:19 AM
Brockport 84 Middlebury 81   Final score

Great game from start to finish. Congratulations to the Golden Eagles for making the Sweet 16.

Since the sectionals this year are a bit unusal, because the Elite Eight round and the national semifinals will be played at Fort Wayne, Indiana, I think it means that 8 schools will host a single game next weekend instead of 4 sites hosting a pair of games. That gives Brockport an excellent chance to host their next game which will be against Tufts. I may be wrong about 8 teams hosting a single game, though, because I don't think they have ever done it quite like this before. They may still send 4 teams to 4 different sites.   

See the post right before yours.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2020, 01:07:36 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 08, 2020, 01:04:00 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2020, 01:03:19 AM
Brockport 84 Middlebury 81   Final score

Great game from start to finish. Congratulations to the Golden Eagles for making the Sweet 16.

Since the sectionals this year are a bit unusal, because the Elite Eight round and the national semifinals will be played at Fort Wayne, Indiana, I think it means that 8 schools will host a single game next weekend instead of 4 sites hosting a pair of games. That gives Brockport an excellent chance to host their next game which will be against Tufts. I may be wrong about 8 teams hosting a single game, though, because I don't think they have ever done it quite like this before. They may still send 4 teams to 4 different sites.   

See the post right before yours.

Yes I did just now. Eight games at eight different sites and Brockport gets to host one of them. A good choice since their gym will be packed with over 2000 fans. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 08, 2020, 01:18:51 AM
Brockport hosts sweet 16 game sat 4 pm !! What a great week ahead for the players and coaches. Winning 19 in a row. Well deserved !
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 08, 2020, 09:50:20 AM
What a great weekend of basketball at the Port. Now you get one more home game, and a chance to finish undefeated at home with a trip to Elite Eight in Fort Wayne!!!! That Tufts squad looks like a big hurdle but definitely beatable. They really fire the 3 ball from looking at their stats. Lots of bigs according to the roster. Congrats, Eagles on earning your Sweet Sixteen game. I am sure Coach Dunne and the guys will have them ready to "March On." GO B-Port!!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 08, 2020, 11:27:10 AM
Tufts coach Bob Sheldon is from Canton, NY. 

Son of former St. Lawrence basketball coach and athletic director Bob Sheldon (St. Lawrence Hall of Fame dinner is named after him)

Graduated from St. Lawrence in 1977.  Played in many epic battles with Potsdam during his career.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 08, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
It should help Brockport preparing for Tufts will be like preparing for Middlebury in many ways. On the other hand I don't think Tufts has played many if any teams with Brockports athleticism. Middlebury did beat Tufts by double digits this year at Middlebury. Brockport has been destroying teams on the boards and should continue on Sat. Tufts will launch a lot of 3 balls but I love Brockports chances. I have Brockport opening at a 4.5 PT favorite. Congrats Brockport on what has already been a great ride. Love watching this team!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 08, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
Tufts has a lot of size, Luke Rogers 6-8 230# is the NESCAC Player of the year. 

He averages 16 pts & 12 rebs with 70 blocks in 29 games.
They have three 6-6 to 6-7's that come off the bench to spell him and add size in the front court.

Rogers is comparable in size and rebounding range to Austin Grunder, although his game is almost totally in the paint.

Grunder gave the Eagles stiff competition in the last weekend of the regular season, Rogers may be better than Grunder, and may be too much of a load for the smaller Eagles in the paint.

Eric Savage is a 6-3 wing, who is averaging 16 pts and 7 rebounds, and hit a 35 foot trey to send the NESCAC championship game into OT.

Question mark for Tufts will be the status of 6-6 Brennan Morris who started the entire season and did not play during the first NCAA weekend.

Tufts is +7 on the season in rebounding stats. Brockport is +3.9

Tufts has made 248 treys on the season at 36.7%.  They have only given up 188 at a 30.7 3 FG%.
'port has only made 175 treys on the season at 32.7%, and has given up 186 at a 30.0% 3FG%

Classic battle of size and 3 point shooting, against a quick, uber athletic team playing at home in front of 2,000 rabid fans

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 08, 2020, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: bports on March 08, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
It should help Brockport preparing for Tufts will be like preparing for Middlebury in many ways. On the other hand I don't think Tufts has played many if any teams with Brockports athleticism. Middlebury did beat Tufts by double digits this year at Middlebury. Brockport has been destroying teams on the boards and should continue on Sat. Tufts will launch a lot of 3 balls but I love Brockports chances. I have Brockport opening at a 4.5 PT favorite. Congrats Brockport on what has already been a great ride. Love watching this team!!

Brockport is listed as a 3 point favorite. I think they win by a few more than that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 08, 2020, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: bports on March 08, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
On the other hand I don't think Tufts has played many if any teams with Brockports athleticism.

Point to note:  Tufts defeated Jim Calhoun's St. Joseph's Ct team (one of their three losses) on 11/23 by a score of 89-71, by all accounts, St. Joseph's of Ct. is similar to Brockport; an extremely athletic team. Rogers only played 21 minutes for Tufts in that game due to foul trouble, but had 15 points and 9 rebounds.

Tufts strength of schedule is an average Massey of 117, Brockport's strength of schedule is an average Massey of 196.

Brockport's Justin Summers appeared to have a strong game against Middlebury and he will be a matchup problem for Tufts if he continues to play that well.   

Perhaps it was playing in front of his hometown crowd, but Kornaker from Middlebury gave Brockport fits the entire game. Tufts has several players of Kornaker's quality.

Should be a great game to watch.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 08, 2020, 11:20:54 PM
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 09, 2020, 02:56:13 AM
Quote from: thebear on March 08, 2020, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: bports on March 08, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
On the other hand I don't think Tufts has played many if any teams with Brockports athleticism.

Point to note:  Tufts defeated Jim Calhoun's St. Joseph's Ct team (one of their three losses) on 11/23 by a score of 89-71, by all accounts, St. Joseph's of Ct. is similar to Brockport; an extremely athletic team. Rogers only played 21 minutes for Tufts in that game due to foul trouble, but had 15 points and 9 rebounds.

Tufts strength of schedule is an average Massey of 117, Brockport's strength of schedule is an average Massey of 196.

Brockport's Justin Summers appeared to have a strong game against Middlebury and he will be a matchup problem for Tufts if he continues to play that well.   

Perhaps it was playing in front of his hometown crowd, but Kornaker from Middlebury gave Brockport fits the entire game. Tufts has several players of Kornaker's quality.

Should be a great game to watch.

On the other side of that coin is the Tufts loss to New England College. The Pilgrims are coached by Plattsburgh native, Charlie Mason and the tiny school (792 students) made it to the NCAA tournamnet, this year, for only the 2nd time in school history.

NEC plays defense similar to Brockport and they harassed Tufts ino 23 turnovers. They beat the Jumbos 59-56 and Tufts had all their guys, as Morris was in that game. Big man Rogers had a ton of rebounds (16) but only scored 8 points. Even with Rogers cleaning the boards NEC was only outrebounded 38-36. They didn't beat Tufts with the threeball either as they were just 2-13 from deep. They made lot of layups and jumpers and got to the line. Had a ton of steals (16) and forced the Jumbos into 23 turnovers. I'm hoping Brockport will do something similar.

Tufts also lost to Middlebury by double digits when the Panthers were missing 2 of their big men, Cahill and Sobel.

In that game Tufts played against St Joseph's, Jaecee Martin, 14.9 ppg, 7.5 assists per game and 4.5 rpg was missing from St. Joe's. He's a former Division I player (Sacred Heart) who joined the team in mid December and missed their first 7 games. He's the 2nd best player (and maybe the best player) on their team. He was the Defensive Player of the Year in their conference and also First Team All Conference. He would lead the nation in assists per game but was just short of the required number of games to qualify. He had at least 12 assists in a game on 6 different occasions this year. Tufts might not have won that game if he was running the offense for St Joe's that night. 

I like Brockport in this game and the fact that Justin Summers had his best game since returning from his injury is a bonus.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 09, 2020, 10:21:40 AM
That guy is credited with 8.9 assists per game at home, 5.8 on the road.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: SpringSt7 on March 10, 2020, 01:04:46 AM
A couple of thoughts on Tufts, from a primarily NESCAC poster:

-The Jumbos are routinely one of the most difficult teams in the NESCAC to evaluate. They just never quite seem to play up to their talent level. This year's team returned everybody from last year's senior-less rotation. They are built for modern basketball---4 shooters, most of whom are capable of putting the ball on the deck and creating off of the dribble, spacing the floor for a monster in the middle. They won the NESCAC regular season, the NESCAC tournament, and are the last NESCAC team remaining, the first team to do so since 2013.

-And yet, they have yet to really put a scare into anyone yet. The non-conference schedule has been noted, their only really, truly good win is their win over Colby (at home on the second night of a back to back after playing 10th place Bowdoin), when Colby was 18-0 and Sam Jefferson was healthy. They beat Amherst at home when Amherst was missing its two all-league guys, and lost @ Middlebury and Williams to close out the NESCAC schedule.

-Despite Rogers' credentials and monster stat-line, Eric Savage is the guy that makes them go. He could have easily been the NESCAC POY---an award which tends to go to the best player on the best team, especially with Sam Jefferson injured, but it went to Rogers instead, and Savage ended up on the 2nd team (getting 2 1st-teamers is almost unheard of). He is their only senior, their engine, a bit of a do it all guard (17-7-4), and while the 3 point shooting (34%) doesn't pop off the page, those numbers are more of a result of his always being responsible for taking the end of the possession shots, and maybe a couple other shots off of the dribble that wouldn't be considered great shots for a lot of other players.

-While Rogers is a terrific player, he has a unique style to him where you almost don't necessarily need to game plan for him. They don't really just space out and throw it into him in the post and let him make a move. Rather, he is as good as it gets of sealing for position, catching the ball as close to the hoop as possible, and scoring. It won't make a lot of sense to double team him because he is either going to shoot right as he gets the ball in the restricted area, or not get the ball, although he isn't a great passer. He is not an elite athlete (not a stiff by any means either) but he is always in terrific position. Very rarely will he outjump someone for an offensive rebound, but 5 times a game he'll have someone absolutely pinned on a box out for an easy putback. They don't run a lot of plays for him, and as I mentioned, the game is really managed by their gluttony of playmaking guards---sophomores Carson Cohen and Tyler Aronson are the other guards to keep an eye on when the ball is in their hands, although they are a step down from Savage.

-Tufts' biggest issue besides their inconsistency, which can kind of be written off at this point---shouldn't be too hard to get up for a Sweet 16 game, is their frontcourt depth. Rogers has shown to be foul prone at times, although it has been much improved this year (3.5 fouls per game in 19.4 minutes last year). His backup, junior Max Oppenheim, is listed at 6'8 250 but is not exactly the physical presence those numbers would suggest. He has taken 2 shots in the last 3 games. When he is in, the Tufts guards are asked to do a lot more, and that is when they have shown prone to turning it over (13.9 a game). If Rogers can't play 25+ minutes they are in trouble.

-Brennan Morris' health is a big X-Factor in this one. He is their purest shooter as the word has come to mean in modern basketball and has the numbers to back it up---45% on 6 attempts a game. He was wearing sunglasses at the games over the weekend, so the best guess for his injury would be a concussion, but that is really just conjecture. The rest of the Tufts rotation is certainly capable of shooting---one of their strengths is that they don't really feature any minus shooters---but it is still a different dynamic when your one true catch-and-shoot guy is out there versus when he isn't. Freshman wings McLaren (38.5%) and Thoerner (35.4%) would be classified as "only when open" type of guys, and Aronson and Cohen prefer to go off of the dribble. Their chances to win this game are much improved if he plays.

-I don't know a lot about Brockport but I got to see their SUNYAC championship win and most of the 2nd round game against Middlebury. I think they are stronger, more athletic, and deeper. Tufts was lucky to escape after coming from 20 down against Western Conn in the first round, and seems due to run out of magic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2020, 04:21:35 AM
SpringSt7,

Thanks for the report on Tufts. Plus K.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 10, 2020, 10:22:51 AM
Yes, thanks for the report Spring. I think everyone will agree when you get to this point of the season everyone left has some real strong points and are peaking at the right time. Bport has 19 in a row with some really nice wins! They has been tested at the end of the regular season with two OT victories over strong SUNYAC squads on the road. They are deep with their bench producing whatever needed when called upon to do so. To me their real strengths are the cohesiveness, athleticism, and most of all the DEFENSIVE intensity!!!! I hope they bring it all Saturday because it will be the deciding factor!!! Good Luck, Eagles

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2020, 10:53:59 PM
The Brockport-Tufts NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Game Saturday Will Be Played with a Restricted Attendance Policy according to a release from Brockport earlier this evening.

Families of the players, media members and official team party members will be allowed into the game. No public ticket sales. Too bad for all the Brockport and Tufts fans but it was easy to see this coming. Especially when so many schools are shutting down.

With the NBA suspended, it's just a matter of time before Major League Baseball, the NHL and other professional sports are shut down as well. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 12:00:36 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2020, 10:53:59 PM
The Brockport-Tufts NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Game Saturday Will Be Played with a Restricted Attendance Policy according to a release from Brockport earlier this evening.

Families of the players, media members and official team party members will be allowed into the game. No public ticket sales. Too bad for all the Brockport and Tufts fans but it was easy to see this coming. Especially when so many schools are shutting down.

With the NBA suspended, it's just a matter of time before Major League Baseball, the NHL and other professional sports are shut down as well.

I don't know about the last part. The NBA has done it because they had a player who mocked the virus two days ago while then wiping his face and hands on all the microphones and recorders in front of him on the table ... before then testing positive. So they have to test their players and be sure things are okay. I bet they are playing somewhat soon.

The NHL, MLB, and others have already taken steps to restrict access to teams and such. They may raise those a bit more. Maybe play some games without crowds for awhile ... until things calm down. I bet they have players tested and maybe often ... with strict instructions that anyone ill is to stay home.

There just needs to be some smart decisions made ... not ones made in panic mode.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 05:30:33 PM
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Tonight on Hoopsville, we try and make sense of one of the stranger finishes in history for NCAA events. What started with isolated closings of gyms for games ends a week later in all games being called off through the rest of the academic year.

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2020, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2020, 12:00:36 AM
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2020, 10:53:59 PM
The Brockport-Tufts NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament Game Saturday Will Be Played with a Restricted Attendance Policy according to a release from Brockport earlier this evening.

Families of the players, media members and official team party members will be allowed into the game. No public ticket sales. Too bad for all the Brockport and Tufts fans but it was easy to see this coming. Especially when so many schools are shutting down.

With the NBA suspended, it's just a matter of time before Major League Baseball, the NHL and other professional sports are shut down as well.

I don't know about the last part. The NBA has done it because they had a player who mocked the virus two days ago while then wiping his face and hands on all the microphones and recorders in front of him on the table ... before then testing positive. So they have to test their players and be sure things are okay. I bet they are playing somewhat soon.

The NHL, MLB, and others have already taken steps to restrict access to teams and such. They may raise those a bit more. Maybe play some games without crowds for awhile ... until things calm down. I bet they have players tested and maybe often ... with strict instructions that anyone ill is to stay home.

There just needs to be some smart decisions made ... not ones made in panic mode.

The NBA suspended. MLB suspended. NHL suspened. MLS suspended. Pro Tennis Tour suspended.  The NCAA Basketball Men's and Women's Tournament canceled. 38 Conference Tournaments in Division I Hoops (19 Men's and 19 Women's) canceled. All remaining NCAA Winter and Spring Championships canceled. Major DI Conferences canceling or suspending conference championships. There are others to add to this list but I think when I posted that quote on the board yesterday I didn't think "a matter of time" would be less than 24 hours.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: bports on March 12, 2020, 06:56:39 PM
I feel horrible for the kids. This Brockport team really had a good chance of making the final 4. I was so looking forward to sat night. Oh well sunyac champs- sunyac tourney champs- 19 wins in a row to finish the season!! What a great season! Congrats Brockport
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 12, 2020, 06:59:28 PM
Sad to see the DIII season (and all of the other sporting events) end so suddenly but it's obviously the right thing to do. I'm convinced that Brockport would have made a great run to get to the Final Four.

Feel bad for all the players and Coach Dunn as this was their year. Congratulations to them for one of the best seasons in school history. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 13, 2020, 07:10:05 AM
Ditto all the comments made about the COVID-19 and the GREAT SEASON for the Eagles. It is sad that it had to end this way, but at least it is on a win! As we all know, only 1 team would have ended that way in the finals. Many accomplishments for this squad and thanks to seniors for your tremendous leadership. Good luck, Eagles!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2020, 02:08:23 PM
Brockport needs to get the T-shirts printed up:

Brockport Co-National Champions
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 13, 2020, 04:42:27 PM

I'd lose the "co" for everyone.  Every one of these schools should make up National Champion T-shirts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 13, 2020, 08:37:10 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 13, 2020, 04:42:27 PM

I'd lose the "co" for everyone.  Every one of these schools should make up National Champion T-shirts.

I agree with that, Ryan. 8-)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 15, 2020, 01:34:16 AM
Not to steal magicman's thunder, but looking at next year already...since this year is done.



   BROCKPORT      17-1      26-3      14 Summers – Sr      X Wallace      X Collins – Sr      X Hagins***      Stroman – Sr      X Ashley       Grimsley      13 Alveraz   
   Oneonta      14-4      19-8      X Macklin -Sr       X 14 Rivera      X Deegan – Sr       Trombley      17 Bull***      X Schultz – Sr      Jacobs – Sr      19 Nolan   
   Potsdam      14-4      20-7      X Brown         X Thomas – Sr      4 Segar***      X Delsol-Lowry - Sr      X Baptiste      Joseph      X Armstrong – Sr         
   Oswego St      12-6      19-8      X Sullivan – Sr         X  Sparks      X Gartland – Sr       X Sanborn      Crittendon      X Brown      Achille      Moultrie   
   Cortland      11-7      17-9      X Grunder      X Edwards      Schmadel – Sr      X Fitzpatrick – Sr      16 Walters/10 DiSanto      Lawton***      X Preston      X Gonzalez – Sr   
   Geneseo      6-12      9-17                                                   
   Plattsburgh St      5-13      8-17                                                   
   Buffalo St      4-14      6-16                                                   
   Fredonia      4-14      8-17                                                   
   New Paltz      3-15      7-18                                                   
                                                                  
                                                                  

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 15, 2020, 03:51:42 AM
I was reading some posts from the SLIAC board earlier today and then went into town around 9 PM to get groceries. (less people around and much easier to shop) Just now got back on the computer and pulled up the  D3 boards and since I was on the SLIAC board when I left, I was still there when I came back. I refreshed the page and spotted a new post...it was from you and it was a breakdown of all the SLIAC teams and who lost players to graduation and who was coming back. I looked it over and said to myself....I should send the Greek a PM and tell him to do the same thing for the SUNYAC. He must really have a lot of time on his hands.

Decided to check out the SUNYAC board and didn't think there would be any new posts since the season is over but wait....there's a post from the Greek and it's a breakdown of the top teams in the YAC. Talk about reading a person's mind.  You must be gaining some magical powers or did you consult with that famous Oracle?

And you certainly didn't steal my thunder, but you're always welcome to do so. 8-) 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 15, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
I only did the top 5, partially because I'm lazy and also because there seemed to be a HUGE drop-off after Cortland. Could someone really make that much of a significant jump from 6-12 Geneseo to 11-7 Cortland?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 15, 2020, 07:13:04 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 15, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
I only did the top 5, partially because I'm lazy and also because there seemed to be a HUGE drop-off after Cortland. Could someone really make that much of a significant jump from 6-12 Geneseo to 11-7 Cortland?

That's probaly all you needed to do. Maybe some of the bottom teams will get some transfers and/or recruits to help them make a big jump up the standings but that's something to be determined.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 17, 2020, 06:08:21 AM
Brockport finishes the season as #11 in the final D3hoops Top 25 poll. They moved up from #18 with 184 points to the #11 spot with 331 points.

I'm convinced they would have been higher had the season played out. I'm pretty sure they would have won their game against Tufts which would have put them into the Elite Eight, with most likely a matchup against Swarthmore to get to the semis. That would have been an interesting game. Massey had Swarthmore listed as a 3 point favorite which means either team could have won that game.

At any rate they did pretty good for a team that only received 2 points in the Top 25 preseason poll.

Other teams from the East Region to receive votes in the final poll were:

Hobart....The Statesmen finished in the #20 spot with a total of 172 points. They weren't mentioned in the previous poll and also had no votes in the preseason poll.  They might have finished higher as well, if the season played out. Their matchup against Christopher Newport was a game they might have won if contested.

RPI...They got 11 points in the Others Receiving Votes and finished in the #31st spot. They were 29th with 28 points in the previous poll. Won a first round game and lost to Tufts to slide a bit. Also not mentioned in the preseason poll.

Ithaca...The Bombers should have finished ahead of RPI in my opinion. but only got 8 points in the final poll to come in the #33 spot. Ithaca beat RPI 2 out of 3 games in the regular season, most importantly for the Liberty League Crown and automatic bid. They also beat Babson in the first round which I think was a stronger team than New England College the team that RPI beat in the first round. Babson defeated Tufts by 14 points when those teams played. Tufts defeated RPI by 9 points. Ithaca beat Babson by 6 points. Ithaca was the recipient of 2 points in the previous poll and received no points in the preseason poll.

Penn State-Harrisburg....The Lions got 7 points in the final poll to finish in the #34th spot and their upset of host Johns Hopkins in double overtime was regarded as one of the bigger upsets in the tournament. Coming out of the lightly regarded NEAC Conference the Lions final ranking was well deserved. Like Ithaca, the Lions received no previous mention in the D3 polls.

Oswego 83 points, Oneonta 5 points, Rochester 5 points and Brockport 2 points were the only East Region teams mentioned in the preseason poll. Brockport, the team with the least amount of preseason support, on that list, is the only one that was in the final poll.

Congratulations to the 5 East Regions teams that were mentioned in the final poll.

Here's the link to the complete final poll:  https://www.d3hoops.com/top25/men/2019-20/final       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 17, 2020, 05:43:54 PM
SUNYAC was well represented on the D3hoops East All-Region Team.

SUNY Potsdam soph Isaiah Brown was named player of the year.
SUNY Cortland soph (but first year of competition) Austin Grunder was rookie of the year.
First year Hobart coach Stefan Thompson was named coach of the year.

First team         
Pos.    Player    School    Yr.    Hometown
G    Donyae Baylor-Carroll    Penn State-Harrisburg    So.    Harrisburg, Pa.
G    Riley Thompson    Ithaca    Sr.    Newtown, Pa.
F     Patrick Mahoney    RPI    Jr.    Ossining, N.Y.
F    Sammy Robinson    St. John Fisher    Sr.    Cedarhurst, N.Y.
F    Isaiah Brown    SUNY Potsdam    So.    Queens, N.Y.
Second team         
Pos.    Player    School    Yr.    Hometown
G    Tucker Lescoe    Hobart    Sr.    Denver, Pa.
G    Justin Summers    Brockport    Sr.    Brooklyn, N.Y.
G    Jahidi Wallace    Brockport    So.    Troy, N.Y.
F    Austin Grunder    Cortland    So.    Trumansburg, N.Y.
F    Ryan Algier    Rochester    Jr.    Fairport, N.Y.
Third team         
Pos.    Player    School    Yr.    Hometown
G    Kevin Mackin    SUNY Oneonta    Sr.    Nanuet, N.Y.
G    Sebastian Alderete    Ithaca    Sr.    Miami Springs, Fla.
G    Noah Valencia    Gallaudet    Sr.    Riverside, Calif.
F     Jackson Meshanic    Hobart    So.    Columbia, Conn.
F    Kevin Dennis    Morrisville State    Sr.    Bronx, N.Y.

Congrats to all.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 18, 2020, 03:18:11 PM
Congrats to the East region selections to the NABC Division III All-American team.

2020 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM

Patrick Mahoney, RPI, 6-5, Junior, Forward, Ossining, NY

2020 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA SECOND TEAM

Isaiah Brown, SUNY Potsdam, 6-6, Sophomore, Forward, Queens, NY

2020 NABC COACHES' DIVISION III ALL-AMERICA THIRD TEAM

Ryan Algier, Rochester, 6-10, Junior, Forward, Fairport, NY

Also - Selected - East Region native

Zac O'Dell, Swarthmore, 6-7, Senior, Forward, Schenectady, NY
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 25, 2020, 02:48:12 AM
The D3hoops All-America Team has been released and Isaiah Brown, a 6'6" Sophomore forward,
from SUNY-Potsdam, has been named to the Third Team.

Congratulations to Isaiah on this latest award. He was the only player from the East region to receive this honor.

Here is the link to the complete list of All-Americans:

https://www.d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/2020
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on April 06, 2020, 11:37:58 AM
For anyone interested, here's a couple of opportunities to watch historic D-III Championship games

On Monday, April 6 at 7:30 p.m. view the 1981 championship game between SUNY Potsdam and Augustana. This game was played in Rock Island and memorable as freshman (and eventual 2x D-III player of the year) Leroy Witherspoon hit a 35 footer at the buzzer in regulation to send the game into overtime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPFQLX9i2XM&list=PLpnUo0gdp546L5ECN_CD9-79MQBN15VS1&index=2&t=0s

On Monday, April 13 at 7:30 p.m. view the 1986 championship game between SUNY Potsdam and LeMoyne-Owen.

I will post the link as it becomes available.

Coach Jerry Welsh -- who led the Potsdam Bears Men's Basketball Team to both Division III National Championships wins -- will provide a welcome message before the games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on April 06, 2020, 03:27:39 PM
Maybe Potsdam can make a nice run in next season's NCAAs.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 10, 2020, 06:55:20 AM
ESPN's Scott Van Pelt has been honoring seniors the past few weeks and tonight, April 9th, he had on Sports Center the Brockport State Golden Eagles.

ESPN started with the video of Tyler Collins making the half court shot at the buzzer, to end the first half of the NCAA 1st round game against Coast Guard, that Brockport won 92-86.

Then they showed a video of the Golden Eagles celebrating in the locker room but I'm not sure if that celebration they were showing, took place after the win over Coast Guard or if it was the next day after the Golden Eagles defeated Middlebury. It was funny to see Coach Dunne and the other coaches jumping up and down, right in the middle of the team, as they were getting doused by all of the players with their Gatorade bottles. It was such a celebration I'm thinking it was after the 2nd round win over Middlebury that put Brockport into the Sweet 16.

I sure wish the team had the chance to play on.

It was nice to see them get some love by ESPN and the seniors get a mention.



Two days ago ESPN featured the Plattsburgh State Women's Hockey Team who were ranked #1 all year long and were favored to win the National Championship. It would have been the Cardinals 2nd straight title and 6th one in the last 7 years. They also set a record back on November 30th, 2019, of 26 consecutive wins. It's the longest winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey history. They are currently on an 18 game winning streak which is the longest active winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey.

Plattsburgh State also set the record for the longest home winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey as the Cardinals defeated Oswego State, 3-0, on Saturday, Nov. 9, for their 29th consecutive home win. The Cardinals' home winning streak now stands at 40 games and counting, after they went undefeated at home (14-0-0) on the season.

Nice to see the SUNYAC get mentioned on ESPN twice within a few days.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on April 10, 2020, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: magicman on April 10, 2020, 06:55:20 AM
ESPN's Scott Van Pelt has been honoring seniors the past few weeks and tonight, April 9th, he had on Sports Center the Brockport State Golden Eagles.

ESPN started with the video of Tyler Collins making the half court shot at the buzzer, to end the first half of the NCAA 1st round game against Coast Guard, that Brockport won 92-86.

Then they showed a video of the Golden Eagles celebrating in the locker room but I'm not sure if that celebration they were showing, took place after the win over Coast Guard or if it was the next day after the Golden Eagles defeated Middlebury. It was funny to see Coach Dunne and the other coaches jumping up and down, right in the middle of the team, as they were getting doused by all of the players with their Gatorade bottles. It was such a celebration I'm thinking it was after the 2nd round win over Middlebury that put Brockport into the Sweet 16.

I sure wish the team had the chance to play on.

It was nice to see them get some love by ESPN and the seniors get a mention.



Two days ago ESPN featured the Plattsburgh State Women's Hockey Team who were ranked #1 all year long and were favored to win the National Championship. It would have been the Cardinals 2nd straight title and 6th one in the last 7 years. They also set a record back on November 30th, 2019, of 26 consecutive wins. It's the longest winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey history. They are currently on an 18 game winning streak which is the longest active winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey.

Plattsburgh State also set the record for the longest home winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey as the Cardinals defeated Oswego State, 3-0, on Saturday, Nov. 9, for their 29th consecutive home win. The Cardinals' home winning streak now stands at 40 games and counting, after they went undefeated at home (14-0-0) on the season.

Nice to see the SUNYAC get mentioned on ESPN twice within a few days.

Nice to see that you were able to catch that. Was it listed in the programming? Too bad everyone else probably missed it!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 10, 2020, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on April 10, 2020, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: magicman on April 10, 2020, 06:55:20 AM
ESPN's Scott Van Pelt has been honoring seniors the past few weeks and tonight, April 9th, he had on Sports Center the Brockport State Golden Eagles.

ESPN started with the video of Tyler Collins making the half court shot at the buzzer, to end the first half of the NCAA 1st round game against Coast Guard, that Brockport won 92-86.

Then they showed a video of the Golden Eagles celebrating in the locker room but I'm not sure if that celebration they were showing, took place after the win over Coast Guard or if it was the next day after the Golden Eagles defeated Middlebury. It was funny to see Coach Dunne and the other coaches jumping up and down, right in the middle of the team, as they were getting doused by all of the players with their Gatorade bottles. It was such a celebration I'm thinking it was after the 2nd round win over Middlebury that put Brockport into the Sweet 16.

I sure wish the team had the chance to play on.

It was nice to see them get some love by ESPN and the seniors get a mention.



Two days ago ESPN featured the Plattsburgh State Women's Hockey Team who were ranked #1 all year long and were favored to win the National Championship. It would have been the Cardinals 2nd straight title and 6th one in the last 7 years. They also set a record back on November 30th, 2019, of 26 consecutive wins. It's the longest winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey history. They are currently on an 18 game winning streak which is the longest active winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey.

Plattsburgh State also set the record for the longest home winning streak in NCAA Division III women's ice hockey as the Cardinals defeated Oswego State, 3-0, on Saturday, Nov. 9, for their 29th consecutive home win. The Cardinals' home winning streak now stands at 40 games and counting, after they went undefeated at home (14-0-0) on the season.

Nice to see the SUNYAC get mentioned on ESPN twice within a few days.

Nice to see that you were able to catch that. Was it listed in the programming? Too bad everyone else probably missed it!


Greek,
No it wasn't listed. For the past several weeks Scott Van Pelt has been doing a feature each night on Sports Center called Senior Night. He's usually been featuring anywhere from 4 to 6 teams each night and talking about their accomplishments this year annd how they were deprived of a possible State championship in a high school sport or  NCAA bid in a college sport. He always mentions the graduating seniors, sometimes first and last names if there is only a couple or just the first names if there are 4 or more.  He's featured a number of D3 schools as well as high schools, D2 schools and of course D1 schools. I know he featured both Clarkson hockey teams..men's and women's as I caught the show that night. Had the MIT baseball team on a few nights ago also. Friday night was he last night they were going to do that. Not sure why..they should do it until this entire covid-19 is over. it's not like they have all this content they have to get on the air.     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Smitty Oom on April 11, 2020, 11:26:26 AM
Yes it is fun to watch, great idea for a segment. I know I saw Whitman women's basketball team being featured about two weeks ago. I think there was a mens team too, but I cannot remember off the top of my head.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on April 11, 2020, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on April 11, 2020, 11:26:26 AM
Yes it is fun to watch, great idea for a segment. I know I saw Whitman women's basketball team being featured about two weeks ago. I think there was a mens team too, but I cannot remember off the top of my head.


Yes Smitty, there's been a number of teams from Division III in various sports. I don't understand why they are stopping this segment. They should keep doing this for as long as all the pro sports leagues are shut down. I'd rather see that content than some of the junk they are throwing out there as filler time.

Last night (Friday the 10th) was the last night they planned to do Senior Night. I watched it and they did a fast talking segment, mentioning a bunch of high schools from different parts of the country. Crammed in more than usual because it was the last night but there's no reason they can't extend it and mention many more schools.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on April 28, 2020, 03:28:28 PM
Hobart assistant Sean Smiley named head coach at Fredonia.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on July 20, 2020, 07:39:48 PM
Sunyac cancels fall sports. All others sports won't begin games till 2021

https://buffalostateathletics.com/news/2020/7/20/general-buffalo-state-sunyac-suspend-fall-sports-competition.aspx
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on July 21, 2020, 01:00:21 AM
When the Ivy League canceled their fall sports back on July 8th I figured it wouldn't be long before many more colleges followed suit. If the SUNYAC is canceling their sports program and New York is now one of the best states in the country with covid -19 on the decline here, what are other conferences going to do in the 40 states (at last count) that are currently showing big increases in new cases of the virus? I can see another year without college sports.

On another front, the NBC nightly news, tonight, said a vaccine in Britain looked very promising and could be out by the end of the year or early 2021. Supposedly the US has ordered 300 million doses. Possibly a light at the end of the tunnel.

I hope all my D3 friends are safe and in good health. Keep wearing the mask and doing the social distancing thing.       
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on August 10, 2020, 05:04:54 PM
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The off season has hit August and with it has come news of Division III Fall Championships being canceled for the same reason Winter Championships were derailed and Spring Championships pulled earlier this year: COVID 19 Pandemic.

The decision came on the heals of a vast majority of DIII institutions curtailing fall sports and many pushing winter sports starts on their campuses until January at the earliest.

What does this mean for the 2020-21 season of college basketball? Specifically what does it mean for Division III? Will there be a basketball season? Will it be a six-week-or-so-sprint? Or is there a way to adjust things?

On the Mid-Summer edition of the Hoopsville Podcast, we try and get some answers to those questions. We talk to one coach who actually has put together a proposal to start the season in January, with some changes to make it work including crowning a champion in April. And we talk to an administrator who also serves on the DIII Management Council to better under stand the decisions made to cancel championships and if shift a season like basketball is even possible.

Plus, we honor the best of the best in the last decade of Division III women's basketball. Gordon Mann joins us to discuss how the 2nd D3hoops.com Women's All-Decade came together (and hints of work on the men's list).

Guests include:
- Philip Ponder, Oglethorpe men's coach
- Jason Fein, Bates Athletics Director and DIII Management Council member
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor

And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. A few things we take note of that have made headlines since the beginning of July. We also tip our hat to a few of those who have always helped the show be it's best.

You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/3kGZ962

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on October 06, 2020, 04:02:30 PM
https://sunyacsports.com/general/2020-21/releases/20201006elhb0i

Feb 1 start to league play, division only double round robin. Not sure if they're doing any OOC games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 15, 2020, 03:47:12 AM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on October 06, 2020, 04:02:30 PM
https://sunyacsports.com/general/2020-21/releases/20201006elhb0i

Feb 1 start to league play, division only double round robin. Not sure if they're doing any OOC games.


I realize they are splitting into two divisions to cut down on travel, which will limit the regular season schedule to just 8 games. The SUNYAC office also wanted to preserve the eligibility of the student-athletes by playing less than 50 percent of the allowable contests. I assume the allowable contest number is less than 50% of 25 which is the regular season max. So that should mean the SUNYAC schools could play 4 OOC games and still be safely within the NCAA rules.

In the case of Plattsburgh we have Clarkson, Canton, St. Lawrence, and Middlebury all within a short distance and all 4 teams have been on our schedule in the past. I'm hopeful something can be worked out so that we can play those schools.

Other schools in the YAC also have regular OOC schools that they play every year that are close to them. A 12 game regular season schedule should be easy to assemble and give the players, especially the seniors that are graduating, a little more of a season.

I hope that the reduced schedule becomes a reality. This pandemic seems to be gaining strength again as the number of new cases in the US has been increasing recently. We don't know what will happen in the next few months.         
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 15, 2020, 08:41:07 AM

NCAA Tournament games are counting in the 12 game limit, so if teams have plans to win, they may want to save the non-con games.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on October 15, 2020, 10:59:33 AM
 Or going with an individual player allocation strategy of keeping selective players out of selective games(OOC or not) so that you'll have enough for all 6 rounds of the tourney. I'd choose to just go with the full bore option that if we get in to the tourney(with the 12 game limit) then we play every player even if it causes a full season of eligibility.
  No one knows the future in these uncertain times.
  NCAA Div I voted to give eligibility relief to winter-sport athletes regardless of how many games they play during the 2020-21 academic year. It remains to be seen if Div 3 will do the same.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on October 15, 2020, 02:12:19 PM
Quote from: ronk on October 15, 2020, 10:59:33 AM
Or going with an individual player allocation strategy of keeping selective players out of selective games(OOC or not) so that you'll have enough for all 6 rounds of the tourney. I'd choose to just go with the full bore option that if we get in to the tourney(with the 12 game limit) then we play every player even if it causes a full season of eligibility.
  No one knows the future in these uncertain times.
  NCAA Div I voted to give eligibility relief to winter-sport athletes regardless of how many games they play during the 2020-21 academic year. It remains to be seen if Div 3 will do the same.

It's not player games, it's team games.  If you get a DNP, but your team plays, it counts as a game for you.

You've also got guys who won't use the extra year of eligibility, even if they get it.  There are a lot of variables at play.  I think they'll change some of the guidance with regards to eligibility.  It's not fair for a player to get an extra year because his team didn't make the NCAA tournament and another to lose the year by losing in round one.  I don't think they'll let that scenario play out.

We'll know more after this week, when all the relevant NCAA committees are meeting.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 15, 2020, 04:15:20 PM
Ryan is correct per the blanket waiver ... if a student-athlete decides to participate and doesn't play in three games, but the team plays in 13 ... despite the factor the player is at 10 games doesn't matter. The TEAM played 13 and thus the blanket waiver is gone.

This is similar in nature to medical red-shirt rules. The player's games played versus the number of games the team played. A player who plays in 8 games and the team played in 24 will have a different answer on the red-shirt request than a player who played in 8 games but the team played in 29.

As for committee meetings, more are taking place this and next week. We may not get an answer for a little while longer, but I don't expect a lot of changes here.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on October 19, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
SUNYAC SEASON HAS JUST BEEN CANCELLED!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on October 20, 2020, 05:59:34 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on October 19, 2020, 03:14:10 PM
SUNYAC SEASON HAS JUST BEEN CANCELLED!!

I expected this might happen. After the NESCAC conference cancelled all their winter sports programs back on October 8th, I knew there would be other conferences that would do the same thing. The number of virus cases continues to increase daily and until we get a vaccine I don't think we'll see DIII sports anytime soon. At least in the SUNYAC.

I feel bad for all the student-athletes but especially the seniors who have lost so much of their college experience because of this pandemic. It has to be a very difficult time for all the coaches as well.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on October 20, 2020, 02:32:02 PM
The difference in the NESCAC, NCAC and the SUNYAC is the SUNYAC has canceled sports at the schools as well ... NESCAC, NCAC are allowing individual schools to decide if they want to play during the season - there just won't be any conference season or AQ to play for this season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jaybird44 on October 29, 2020, 07:02:48 PM
Hello friends!

It seems that I have been the only member of the only (unofficial) fall sport at WashU, with my 100-mile ultramarathon attempt earlier this month to promote the fight for a cure during Rett Syndrome Awareness Month.  That attempt fell a bit short in miles and fundraising, so I'm going into overtime to try and reach $5,000 in donations.

Rett Gets Rocked 50K for $5K will commence Friday, October 30 at 8 pm Central, and end at 8 am Halloween morning.  Counting donations received (thanks to retired WashU men's basketball coach Mark Edwards and his wife Mary, and to Mike McGrath and his  University of Chicago men's basketball program for their donations!) and those yet to be sent and processed, I am at $4,440.53.  Very, very close to my goal...which will fund a researcher's work for a month.  Wouldn't it be cool if he or she cracked the code for a cure of Rett syndrome, on our dime?!

I reached 86 miles in my "Rett Gets Rocked Virtual Ultra Weekend" October 3-4.  I'm very proud of that result, but there's more work to be done.  Proceeds from the event will be split between Rettsyndrome.org (the only national organization spearheading research and providing resources for affected patients and their families) and the Rett Spectrum Clinic--a collaboration between the WashU School of Medicine and St. Louis Children's Hospital.

Rett syndrome is a rare, non-inherited neurological disorder that is caused by a gene mutation in the brain.  Rett strikes typically when a child is 6-18 months old, and it has the characteristics of ALS, autism, epilepsy, and Parkinson's...all rolled into one sinister disorder.
It takes away the child's ability to move and communicate.  Most of them end up in wheelchairs with active minds, but mired in the physical rubble that Rett creates.  And, the neurological damage prevents verbal communication and arm and hand movement for sign language.

In essence, Rett does to a child what Lucy in the "Peanuts" comic strip does to Charlie Brown when he tries to kick the football that she is holding.  The only difference is that Charlie Brown can get back up to try again.  Those who are afflicted with Rett syndrome don't get another chance to enjoy a vibrant life.

Researchers are working to re-engineer the gene mutation that turns on Rett, so it can be forever turned off.  Four drug therapies are in the FDA review pipeline, with one (trofanitide) one level away from review.  And, iPad tablets with retinal scan technology are giving those with Rett a voice they haven't had since they were toddlers.

The full court press on Rett is paying off.  You can help keep the pressure on Rett, by going to my Rett Racers donation page:  https://rettracer.everydayhero.com/us/rett-gets-rocked-2020

Thanks for your time and consideration, and let's hope that we get back to playing and broadcasting sports much sooner than later!

Jay Murry
Play-By-Play Announcer, Washington University in St. Louis
Event Director, Rett Gets Rocked 50K for $5K
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 16, 2020, 04:45:34 PM
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For much of Division III, there hasn't been any basketball so far this season. Unfortunately for a growing number of schools, there won't be any season. Either because of a school decision or a conference one, more and more coaches are having to tell their teams they won't be playing any intercollegiate games until next season.

Those conversations have to be tough. What can also be difficult is keeping student-athletes engaged or even keep busy as a coach.

In this second of three podcasts surrounding the coronavirus climate in DIII, we chat with a couple of coaches who have programs on the back-burner until next academic year. Emory women's coach Misha Jackson discusses how and why the Atlanta-based institution decided to shutdown winter sports and how it has impacted her team. And Plattsburgh State men's coach Mike Blaine brings his perspective of a shutdown program, but from a conference-wide decision in New York State.

You will also hear how both coaches are working with their players, but also trying to be careful about their time and the stress of everything going on in player's lives.

You can listen to the podcast here: https://bit.ly/37r92A5

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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 11, 2021, 11:50:27 AM
SUNYAC Rosters are Up.

First team AC returnees include Jahidi Wallace at Brockport and conference rookie of the year Austin Grunder at Cortland.
Second team AC returning include Eric Edwards at Cortland and Andres Rivera at Oneonta
Third teamers returning include Michael Gannon at Geneseo, Joseph Bull at Oneonta, and Jeremiah Sparks at Oswego.

Oneonta has D-I (Iona) Transfer Michael Ortale, who had 30 points and 11 rebounds in opener vs. Hartwick. 
Dragons won by 29 without A/C forward Joseph Bull.

Interesting non conference games this weekend include Fredonia at St. John Fisher, Cortland at Rochester (UAA), possible Hobart Oswego matchup on Saturday,
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 11, 2021, 05:08:51 PM
Great to see thebear back.    I watched Brockport last weekend and was left somewhat unimpressed.   Alfred has a veteran team but they handled Brockport.  Brockport did lose a few guys from 2 years ago so we might be seeing the impact of their departures. 

Potsdam gets Segar back healthy but lose Isaiah Brown who originally transferred to DII Queens College but does not appear to be playing this semester.    Segar and Baptiste should still be a lethal combo.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 21, 2021, 05:33:07 PM
Potsdam showed resilience today against cross-town rival Clarkson in a North Country Classic game. 

Bears jumped out to a 14-0 lead and were up 29-6 after 10 minutes, then cruised the rest of the way to a 90-63 win at Jerry Welsh Gymnasium. 

Brandon Segar Jr had 20 points and 11 rebounds in 26 minutes to lead the Bears, who shot 52% from the floor and beyond the arc, making 11 treys.

Soph Colton Huestis had his second straight 18 point outing.

Ryan Miles-Ferguson led the Golden Knights with 13 points, as the Knights shot 30% from the floor and 16% on their 44 three point attempts.

Bears off until their SUNYAC Opener at Plattsburgh on Tuesday 11/30.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 21, 2021, 07:42:14 PM
I noticed that Baptiste was on the bench today, so today's result was a bit surprising given his absence.  It seemed more like a bit of a market correction after Potdam's previous 2 games.  Mesean Johnson is as tough a PG as you'll see this season, and if Segar could clean up some misses under the rim the Bears are going to be scoring a lot of points this year. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on November 24, 2021, 08:23:26 PM
Well, it's not the start we had hoped for at Buff State. But I'm encouraged how these young guys have responded .  12 new players means guys are gonna have to get used to working with each other  I've been surprised with some of the results and encouraged. 1st 4 games were vs quality opponents ( John Carrol, Ohio Northern, Nazareth college and , last night , St John Fisher.  We were competitive in each 1. Just couldn't hold on

Looks like our leading scorer , from last year , Sheldon Adams , is ready for bigger and better things. Averaged over 30 pts in the last 3 games, plus garnered the most recent POW award.  Biggest surprise is new comer Phil Weeks   21 rebound against  Ohio Nothern and 28 boards vs John Carrol . In my 14 years at Buff state , I've never seen that kind of performance. From us or our opponents. His efforts earned him a spot on D3 Team of the week.  If we keep getting that kind production from them, good guard play from Aaron Davis and contributions from a slew of new folks, we should be alright

I guess with Oswego coming up next, we will see real soon, what we are made of .!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 27, 2021, 08:46:27 AM
Brockport did look very average in the Alfred game. They are now on a 3 game win streak and starting to look like a contender in the SUNYAC's. They open up the SUNYAC's with Fredonia on Tuesday night. We shall see!!!Good luck Eagles!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 30, 2021, 10:25:13 PM
Decent upset tonight with New Paltz taking down Oneonta.   Potsdam almost blows a 20 point lead at Plattsburgh but closes it out.   Oswego looking like the cream of the crop thus far. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 01, 2021, 07:26:38 AM
Quote from: stlawus on November 30, 2021, 10:25:13 PM
Decent upset tonight with New Paltz taking down Oneonta.   Potsdam almost blows a 20 point lead at Plattsburgh but closes it out.   Oswego looking like the cream of the crop thus far.

That's a head scratcher for Oneonta.  Unless New Paltz is just way better than I thought.  Maybe the transfers haven't gotten used to the conference midweek travel schedule?  That's not even a long drive, though.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 01, 2021, 08:11:40 AM
New Paltz added a couple of new pieces. Sean St. Lucia is a SUNYAC ready point guard out of the tough Suburban Council around Albany, apparently a triplet and his sister is also an athlete at NP.  Solomon Neuhaus, 6-4 from Plattsburgh, by way of Williston Northampton prep and Gettysburg college, is a wing, who lit it up from three last night.  They also have 7 returnees who saw significant time in 19-20.  Dragons were awful from 3 pt last night. NP led by as much as 13 in the first half.  Oneonta starters played 178 minutes and Joseph Bull is still not showing in a box score.  Get to see both of these clubs this weekend here in the snowy North Country.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 01, 2021, 05:09:12 PM
Brockport beat Fredonia at home by 10. Pretty ugly win, but Bport played shorthanded as some of their players were late coming back from Thanksgiving. They adjusted quite well and some players that haven't gotten much time before got to show their stuff. They travel to Cortland for an always tough contest. Then home for the Oswego Lakers on Saturday afternoon. We will know where the Eagles stand in the SUNYAC's by the end of the weekend!!!! Good luck Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 03, 2021, 09:22:52 PM
Just finished watching Bport dismantle the Red Dragons by an 87-60 score AT Cortland. They played tenacious D and moved the ball well on the offensive end.That was their best all-round  effort since the Hobart win. The Eagles host the Oswego Lakers tomorrow at 4PM. They need to bring that same effort tomorrow to complete the big weekend. The Eagles are showing signs of being a real  squad to contend with in the SUNYAC's!!! Go Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 04, 2021, 11:31:35 AM
Bears nipped the New Paltz Hawks 75-72 in a classic back and forth affair last night in Potsdam that included 14 lead changes.

Potsdam center Tyrese Baptiste returned to the lineup in style with a heroic 22 point 21 rebound effort adding a pair of assists and blocks. 

Freshman Parker Kelly added 14 points including a pair of treys, and a clutch jump shot with 51 seconds left to put the Bears into the lead for the last time. Soph transfer Colton Huestis added 13 points and 6 boards.

Little used PG Isaac Oduro came off the bench after starting Bear's PG MeSean Johnson fouled out early and had 8 points and 2 assists in 11 minutes of action.

New Paltz Soph Rylan Blondo had a double double with 17 points and 14 rebounds, and looks to be a breakout player in the SUNYAC.

Transfer Solomon Neuhaus hit 3 long range treys as part of a 15 point outing, and PG Sean St. Lucia added 11 points and 4 assists despite being in foul trouble.

Hawks post tandem of Isaiah Bien-Aise and Tyriek Frazier combined for 12 points and 13 rebounds.

Bears host Oneonta Red Dragons today at 4, and Hawks cross the North Country to take on the Plattsburgh Cards.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on December 04, 2021, 06:39:25 PM
Pretty bad loss for Potsdam today.  Up 9 with a minute left and Oneonta hits 3 threes in a row to force overtime in which they prevailed. 

Oswego utterly dismantled Brockport.  Brockport is down a bit compared to years past but is still a good squad.  Oswego had no trouble.   The Lakers looking like one of the premier East (now region III I guess) programs like usual. 

Biggest surprise has to be Plattsburgh.  They have been non-competitive in most games they've played. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 05, 2021, 12:35:28 AM
Momma said there would be days like  this.  After getting down 16 points at halftime, versus good Oswego squad, and then scoring point for point versus them in second (half 38 - 38).  I felt that today's game vs Geneseo was the game to get us back on track.  We were soooo close.


With less than 2 seconds left we were up by 2 but as fate would have it, the Knights tie the game at buzzer.  On to overtime, which was nip and tuck. Down by 1  with less than 9 seconds left, Sheldon Adams misses on a jumper but Marquell gets the rebound puts it back up and gets fouled, with .5 seconds left. Needing 1 to tie and 2 to win, we came up empty at the foul line. To be honest, as sad as I was for losing, my heart went out to Marquel. He is easily 1 of the 2 nicest and compassionate players on the team.  Needless to say ....we lost!

We have 2 days to get ready for Div 2 Dyouville  , then Brockport after that. With 7 freshman and 4 sophomores, we've got some good building blocks to work with. With Phil Weeks , who's averaging 16.8 boards a game ( in 6 games) and Sheldon Adams who's averaging 25 points a game, we have a couple of cornerstones to build on. Hopefully Aaron Davis will continue his strong play at the point. I'm also encouraged by how some of the newcomers are coming along . They deserved to win this one but no one is giving out victories because a team " deserves" to win

Most of you know I'm a diehard Bengals fan, and this year is not any different

GO BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 05, 2021, 07:40:05 AM
Oswego did to Brockport what the Eagles did to Cortland the night before. Oswego and Bport are very similar in style of play, but my Eagles were out executed, outhustled and were out classed today. They are a solid squad but still need some work. Oswego is the team to beat in SUNY's right now! It is going to be a very competitive and interesting SUNYAC season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 05, 2021, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: stlawus on December 04, 2021, 06:39:25 PM
Pretty bad loss for Potsdam today.  Up 9 with a minute left and Oneonta hits 3 threes in a row to force overtime in which they prevailed. 


Yes, that was a tough one, up nine with a minute to play.

Actually the three triples were in 23 seconds of clock time. First was at :59 left, then Dragons fouled at :48 and Bears missed both FT's, Dragons got the rebound, next three was at :43.  Dragons then forced a 5 second call on the inbounds, and 7 seconds later hit the third three at :36.

Should be noted that the Bears were without Brandon Segar [16 pts/ 11 rebs/gm] who was injured in the first half of the NP game, and also lost his replacement in the lineup Jeff Williamson in the first half of the Oneonta game due to injury. 

Frankie Williams put on a clinic for the Dragons with 31 points.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 07, 2021, 01:52:01 AM
So this is what a win feels like! Today's  84-75 victory over( Div 2) Dyouville took a long time in coming.  Again Sheldon Adams comes through with 31 points. Newcomer Daron Hughey chipped in with a season best 26 points ( on 11 of 14) shooting. Missing Phil Weeks, who has been on a rebounding tear, was cause for some some concern , but my Bengals toughed it up..

Brockport is 4 days away. A win vs them would be just what the dr. order!

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 11, 2021, 08:02:41 AM
The Eagles traveled to Buff St. last night and came away with a 99-73 victory against the Bengals. Buff played a solid 1st half and only trailed by 8. The Eagles came out smoking in the 2nd half and finished strong for the win. The Bengals had no answer for Wallace as he recorded a double-double with 24 pts and 14 rebounds. Now on to Daytona for the Eagles on Dec 20-21. Looking forward to seeing them live against some good competition. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on December 12, 2021, 07:03:35 PM
Did not see until just now that Potsdam lost to the 396th ranked team in Massey yesterday   :o :o

Box score makes it seem like the Bears just ran into some really bad 3 point shooting luck.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 19, 2021, 10:38:15 AM
Oneonta lost to Occidental 62-68 on the opening night of their two game west coast swing.  Game was tied at 57 with 2:51 left then Occidental went on a 7-0 run and held on for the W.  Dragon regular Dylan Trombley did not appear in the box, and Joseph Bull is still MIA for the Dragons. Oneonta at #40 Chapman at 5PM today. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2021, 10:24:28 PM
Congrats on the win Scooterman!

Don't want to rain in the SUNYAC parade but reliable sources are saying daily testing , among other things, will be the standard 1/1. I'm feeling a repeat of last year coming
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 22, 2021, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: Bengalsrule on December 21, 2021, 10:24:28 PM
Congrats on the win Scooterman!

Don't want to rain in the SUNYAC parade but reliable sources are saying daily testing , among other things, will be the standard 1/1. I'm feeling a repeat of last year coming

Looking at the data, the three largest counties hosting SUNYAC schools [Erie, Monroe, Ulster] have vaccination rates in the mid 70's vs. a statewide average of 82%.  The 7 smaller counties [(Chatauqua,Oswego,St. Lawrence,Clinton,Livingston,Otsego,Cortland] with SUNYAC schools have vaccination rates for the most part in the low to mid 60's. 

While the campuses are for the most part fully vaccinated, that would say the vaccination rates in the overall population are still fairly low. 

For example in my home county of St. Lawrence, we have 108K people, about 12K are college students, who are fully vaccinated, another 1-2K work at the colleges and are likely mostly vaccinated.  The math tells me the vaccination rate in the rest of the community is probably below 60%. 

Omicron is showing signs of infecting even vaccinated and boostered people.

I do feel for the student athletes, who have sacrificed much over the past two academic years.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 30, 2021, 06:52:21 AM
Thank you guys for the Congrats. I am sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. I have had some shoulder surgery issues and wasn't able to attend the games. The Eagles did play two solid teams and came away with 2 W's. Everyone have a Happy New Year and lets get ready SUNYAC competition. It looks to be an interesting year in the SUNY's!!!!! Go Bport!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 30, 2021, 10:46:19 AM
Scooterman; Hope you are on the mend. 

Noticed that freshman PG Akhee Anderson (former NYS Class B HS player of the year) was a DNP for the Lakers yesterday in their win over RPI
.
Starter Jordan Brown 16 mins/gm was also a DNP.

It seems the very talented Jeremiah Sparks morphed into a point forward.

Lakers are second in the country in Scoring defense at 54.7 ppg.  Def have an old school style.

As noted RPI was missing some pieces, but Lakers were also down 2 starters.

Thinking the SUNYAC will go through Laker Hall this year.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 30, 2021, 04:08:37 PM
Oswego putting a thumping on host St. John Fisher at Halftime in Pittsford. 
Lakers - 44 Cards - 25. 
SJF top player Daniel Cook [21.5ppg] held to 3 pts in 17 minutes of action. 
Lakers led by Devin Green with 11 and Julien Crittendon with 10.
Brendan Trapper and Ian Duncan each had 10 for Fisher, which saw only 4 players score.
Oswego's defense is ranked #2 in the country, and seems like the real deal.

Will be a nice win for the 'yac.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 30, 2021, 05:04:06 PM
Final Oswego State 83 St. John Fisher 70. 

Fisher cut a 19 point halftime deficit to 9, then Oswego won the free throw shooting contest.

Fisher got called for a technical at 2:08 and another with 1:00 left down 9, and that was a back breaker.
[game was at Fisher]

Green and Crittendon led the Lakers with 22 each.

Brendan Trapper led Fisher with 20.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 03, 2022, 04:51:37 PM
In a battle of one loss teams, Oswego leads visiting St. Lawrence 38-26 at half time. 

Lakers have a 22-9 rebounding advantage and are +4 in turnovers.

K. Cook leads Oswego with 11 points, Trent Adamson leads Saints with 8 points.

SLU trailing by 12 despite hitting 10x22 from the field to Lakers' 12x31.

Rebounding edge is interesting as SLU has a pair of 6-7's
Laker's starters top out at 6-4 with one 6-5 seeing minutes off the bench.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 04, 2022, 07:22:49 AM
Bear--I totally agree with you at this point of the season. It certainly appears that Laker Hall will be the focus of the SUNY's. With that said, alot of solid SUNY bball to be played!!!! I am really looking forward to it. I hope COVID doesn't ruin it for us!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 05, 2022, 06:45:10 PM
Rough day for my Bengals. Day started with the results from a mandatory Covid test. 6 positive , plus another 3 dismissed for various reasons. Started game with 8 players total   .  The guys hung in their for a half but eventually the #37 ranked Yellow Jackets prevailed

Nothing left but SUNYAC games left   Not sure how long the positive players have to stay out. Hoping it's 5 days instead of 10. Next 3 are at home ( Potsdam, Plattsburgh and Oswego) so here's to hoping home helps!

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 06, 2022, 06:17:02 PM
Damn. Weekend contests vs Potsdam and Plattsburgh postponed. 10 inches of snow today was the culprit. Covid didn't help either.  Games are supposed to be rescheduled

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 09, 2022, 09:48:23 AM
A bit of a surprising outcome this weekend as the Oneonta/New Paltz folks traveled to The Rochester area.

The surprise was that Geneseo came away with a sweep and now sit atop [until tomorrow at least] the SUNYAC at 5-0.
 
Their game on Friday against New Paltz was a classic with a Raymond Grabowski trey at :02 to secure the win 77-75.

A scrappy New Paltz club whacked favored host Brockport on Saturday as they lit it up from the arc with a 16-31 performance enroute to a 90-78 win over the Eagles. 4 Hawks in double figures led by Rylan Blondo who filled the stat sheet with 19 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds & 4 steals.

Oneonta was game, but they were missing Frankie Williams Jr. (16 ppg) and other moving parts and made the trip with a depleted roster.

They hung in there for a while, but were thumped by both Brockport 85-65 and Geneseo 91-68.

Michael Ortale Jr. filled up the stat sheet with 48 points and 15 rebounds, but the Dragons fell to 2-3 in the conference, and are on a 4 game winless skein.

Schedule still evolving, next known game is the Oswego Lakers traveling to Buffalo for a 7:30 tip Monday against the Buffalo State Bengals.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 10, 2022, 05:46:09 PM
Oswego at Buff State game has been moved to Tuesday at 4PM. 

The polar express moving in from the midwest has made travel unsafe between Oswego and Buffalo. 

Snowfall in the Oswego area 3-4 inches per hour.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 11, 2022, 04:56:33 PM
Halftime Oswego 54, Buffalo State 32.  Christian Simmons with 16 off the bench and Ahkee Anderson returns with 12 in the first half for the Lakers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on January 11, 2022, 05:21:06 PM
Looks like Simmons is a new addition to the Lakers.  Division II transfer from Walsh.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 11, 2022, 05:33:44 PM
He has played since first semester, basketball gypsy with stops at Mohawk Valley, Corning Community, Mansfield U in PA, Walsh, and now Oswego.  1,000 pt HS scorer in Rochester, The journey has seen Simmons work his way down from a peak weight of 260 pounds to about 205, make a junior college All American team, and get Division I interest before committing to D-II Walsh for his final season, and then taking the extra year to enroll at Oswego.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on January 13, 2022, 07:52:45 PM
Decent effort from the Bears tonight but Oswego is just too good.   Potsdam got it down to a 7 point deficit just over halfway through the 2nd half but some opportune shots from the Lakers gave them some more cushion.   Baptiste played with foul trouble the whole game which took away any offensive presence for the Bears inside for most of the game.

The season of horrors for Plattsburgh continues with a 30 point loss to Cortland.  Plattsburgh still down some starters.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 14, 2022, 09:27:26 AM
Oswego is an excellent team. 

They are undersized, but rival any d3 team in quickness and athleticism. 

They are also very deep, a signature of excellent teams. 

Jeremiah Sparks is a 6-3 point forward for this team, the offense revolves around him in the half court, his is a mismatch, too long for most D3 point guards, and too quick for taller defenders. 

They have some deadly three point shooters in Crittenden and Green who can destroy a zone, and are very quick to the ball. 

They probably have 8 guys who can light it up on a given night, so they are a nightmare to defend. 

They are plus 57 in turnovers, and have an assist turnover ratio of 1.4:1 while only allowing .6:1.

Add Coach Leone to the mix, and they are a force.

The path to the SUNYAC goes through the Lakers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 15, 2022, 08:46:50 AM
Hey guys--I have been busy and negligent about getting here. My Eagles are on a downward trend not being able to put their offense and defense together for a full game. They absolutely put together a strong game against Oneonta last weekend winning by 20; and forgot to bring the defense against a hot shooting NP team on Saturday. NP was 16-31 from the 3pt line. Last night's performance against Geneseo rivaled with one of the worst 1st halves I have seen from my beloved Eagles in a long time; scoring 16 points in 20 minutes. This is one of the better Geneseo teams I have seen over the past years. I agree with Bear the SUNYAC's go through the Lakers!!! Alot of bball to be played!!! Go Eagles!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 15, 2022, 11:26:01 PM
Buff State seems to be down bad this year for whatever reason, and Fredonia is perenially awful, but what the heck happened to Plattsburgh?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 16, 2022, 08:26:10 AM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on January 15, 2022, 11:26:01 PM
Buff State seems to be down bad this year for whatever reason, and Fredonia is perenially awful, but what the heck happened to Plattsburgh?

Coach Curle retired from NY State - he had 31 years between Plattsburgh, SUNYIT and SUNY Alfred State, and is now the AD at William Peace University in Raleigh, NC

New Coach Mike Blaine had success including 2 NCAA tournament appearances at Medaille in the Buffalo area. He is finding that the SUNYAC is a big step up from the AMCC. He's a Johns Hopkins grad with D-I assistant experience, with stops at Cornell, Army, James Madison, and Radford.

Common thread is SUNYAC players from 19-20 who would be expected to be contributors are just disappearing from rosters.  Has happened at several schools during this season, at all levels of the conference standings.  I've kept the home book for 7 games this season, and have yet to have everyone on the program rosters be active for the game.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 16, 2022, 09:30:34 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on January 15, 2022, 11:26:01 PM
Buff State seems to be down bad this year for whatever reason, and Fredonia is perenially awful, but what the heck happened to Plattsburgh?

Definitely a down year , so far. Started out with 17 players. Lost 3 during holiday and a total of 5 with Covid over 1st weeks of 2022 ( dressed 8 for U of Rochester). Then leading scorer Sheldon Adams was dismissed a day before Oswego game
.

Rough sledding so far although with only 2 players with SUNYAC experience and 9 of the 13 bring freshman or sophomore, growing pains are just that .. Growing pains

Having 3 games in 4 days last week ( Oswego, New Paltz and Oneonta) and 4 games this week ( Plattsburgh Monday, Potsdam Tuesday then same 2 teams at their place Thursday and Friday) will be a tough test. For anyone

Their A on the hole, in my opinion, is head coach Fajri Ansari.  If anyone can turn them around, he can.

I'm a die hard BENGALS fan so I'm gonna hope for the best!

Go BENGALS!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 17, 2022, 12:53:22 PM
Just received word that Bears will play Buffalo State tomorrow, Women at 2 PM, Men at 4PM.  Then on to Fredonia for Wednesday, women tip at 12, men at 2.

Return games are now Fredonia at Potsdam on Saturday women at 2 men at 4, followed by Buffalo State at Potsdam women at 12, men at 2 on Sunday.

Plattsburgh on the reverse schedule. 

The Western NY coast of Lake Erie getting blasted by this winter storm.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on January 17, 2022, 09:59:34 PM
Oswego breaks into the poll this week at #25. They host Geneseo tomorrow and go to Cortland on Saturday.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 18, 2022, 09:19:22 AM
Still mystified why RPI, which lost by 13 on a neutral court to Oswego is ranked ahead of them.

Rensselaer was missing 2 starters, but so was Oswego, including their point guard!

Rensselaer schedule according to Massey is an average of 264, Oswego an average of 219

According to Matt Snyder, Rensselaer Schedule is an average of 216 Oswego is 212

Rensselaer has a 1 pt win over Nazareth, which beat Oswego by 2.

The selection committee is going to have an interesting discussion I'm sure about the significance of that RPI-Oswego outcome.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on January 18, 2022, 09:36:38 AM

I've had Oswego ahead of RPI for a long time, but I think it's largely momentum. RPI started ranked, Oswego didn't. It's an explanation, not an excuse.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 19, 2022, 10:12:39 AM
Oswego had a statement win at Laker Hall last night. 

Geneseo visited the Lakers with a 6-0 SUNYAC record to face Oswego who had won all 7 of their conference games. 

If it was a boxing match they would have stopped it. 

Lakers ran off an 8-0 run between the 17:00 and 14:00 mark of the first half, and extended from there. 

Lakers led at the half 38-22 and extended to a 88-63 final margin.

Julien Crittenden led Lakers, coming off the bench to score 18 points. 

Michael Gannon had game honors with 19 points and 11 rebounds for the Knights.

Lakers have all their players back in the lineup.  They have now won 10 straight.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 20, 2022, 05:14:54 PM
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Hoopsville is live on the air tonight starting at 7:00 PM ET. Might be a guest worth tuning into from this conference. :)

We will have the following guests:

Plus the latest from the NCAA Convention and much more.

It is a jam packed show! Tune in starting at 7:00 PM ET here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2021-22/jan20 - the show will be available on demand and the audio podcast will be available shortly after the show as well.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on January 21, 2022, 09:16:32 AM
Still mystified why RPI, which lost by 13 on a neutral court to Oswego is ranked ahead of them.

Rensselaer was missing 2 starters, but so was Oswego, including their point guard!

Rensselaer schedule according to Massey is an average of 264, Oswego an average of 219

According to Matt Snyder, Rensselaer Schedule is an average of 216 Oswego is 212

Rensselaer has a 1 pt win over Nazareth, which beat Oswego by 2.

The selection committee is going to have an interesting discussion I'm sure about the significance of that RPI-Oswego outcome.
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Luckily, the NCAA selection committee doesn't care about the D3hoops poll.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on January 21, 2022, 05:40:19 PM
Finally a YAC win (vs Plattsburgh.) Hopefully my Bengals can duplicate that feat tomorrow at Plattsburgh
The SUNYAC schedule is gonna be a grind for my Bengals. 5 games , Potsdam, Plattsburgh, then the reverse and make up game vs Cortland (1/25). 5 games in 7 days . Whew. Hope my guys put the work in this weekend

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 23, 2022, 08:49:12 PM
Rare SUNYAC Sunday games due to Covid and Western NY Weather.

Matt Aebersold hits a 3 pointer with :01 left to give Fredonia  76-75 win at Plattsburgh, Newcomer Aaron Collins had another strong performance with 23 points.  Aebersold from Geneva Switzerland was a spot performer this season, but came off the bench to hit 5 of 8 treys in 23 minutes to score 17 points including the winner.

Potsdam found itself in an early deficit, as Buffalo State made 4 treys, a three point play, another trey to take an early 18-7 lead 5 minutes into the game.

Bears clawed back to even at 30-30 with 5 minutes left, then Buffalo State extended to a 40-35 halftime lead. 

Buffalo State maintained a single digit margin until just under 13 minutes left. 

Potsdam went on a 16-1 run until 7:24 left to establish a 62-52 lead. 

Buffalo State closed to within 5 but a 3 pointer by big Tyrese Baptiste with 3 minutes left put the Bears up by 11 and that was the final margin 77-66. 

Potsdam held Buffalo State to 26 points in the second half.

Baptiste had a strong night with 26 points and 8 rebounds on 10/15 FGA for those of you who have him in fantasy.

He also held Buffalo State's 6-8 Philbert Weekes, also among the nation's rebounding leaders (13 rpg) to 4 points and 7 rebounds in 26 minutes.

Amazingly Buff State was 9-19 from the arc, while Potsdam had only Baptiste's long range goal in 13 tries.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 24, 2022, 02:21:45 PM
My Eagles are in a funk. It looks like the SUNYAC's has a lot of parity. Oswego is the best team in the league without much real competition at this point. Geneseo, NP, Oneonta and Brockport are middle tier with Cortland just a notch below. Fredonia, Buffalo St. and Plattsburg St. seem to be at the bottom tier. We are only at mid-season so things can surely change and probably will. Let's go Eagles!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 25, 2022, 05:19:33 PM
I want to apologize to "the Bear" for unintentionally leaving out Potsdam. I would definitely put them in that middle tier with their record. Sorry for the misstep. Let's see how the 2nd half of season plays out. Does Oswego run away with regular season and playoffs or will someone else step forward and put some pressure on them!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2022, 08:13:19 PM
Notable stat from tonight's SUNYAC action.  New Paltz leads Cortland 42-40 at the half.  for those who have him in fantasy, Cortland's Austin Grunder has 25 points at the half.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on January 28, 2022, 09:35:46 PM
Potsdam now finding themselves tied for 4th place in the SUNYAC.  They're stringing wins together and beat a good Geneseo squad tonight without Brandon Segar.   Good test for them tomorrow against Brockport. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 31, 2022, 07:45:44 AM
A very solid weekend of basketball for my Eagles beating Plattsburgh by 30 and a very good Potsdam team by 20. Consistency is the next step for my squad. The Lakers are still in the driver's seat and blasted a good NP squad on Saturday. Let's start gearing up for the stretch run!!! Go Eagles!!!                                                                                                     
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 12, 2022, 11:56:20 AM
hell of a win for New Paltz over Oswego last night. The Hawks have come a long, long way from those 1-win seasons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 12, 2022, 05:48:39 PM
Been  a long season for the RDragons who this afternoon break through for 82-71 win at New Paltz. Another touted performance by A. Grunder with 33 pts, 9 rebs. Has 20 pts in 31-30 trailing first half. Grunder with 36 pts Friday night at Oneonta in 86-72 loss. Falling behind by big margin, Corts with gallant stretch run to close within five in stretch run. OState answers every Cortland approach and pulls away in final minute.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 12, 2022, 11:47:38 PM
Can't say that I expected this but my Bengals have gone 3-1 in the last 4 games. O T loss to Oneonta is the only blemish during this Feb run. 2 of the 3 came vs " potential " playoff teams ( Geneseo and New Paltz)

It was good to see my guys survive a buzzer beating 3 by the blue devils. 3rd OT game and first win. Hope to finish strong. Especially since every player is eligible to return next year
No post season is possibly be. Hopefully pride will be the  #1 impetus for the remains 3 games

I'm proud of these boys

Go BENGALS
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2022, 03:47:39 PM
Week 2 Regional Rankings - which are ranked now: https://d3hoops.com/notables/2022/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Bengalsrule on February 17, 2022, 02:55:56 PM
Well is come down to 2 games left for my beloved BENGALS. Lost a close 1 vs Cortland last Tuesday. Watching Weeks and Grunder ( the 2 best big men in the league) was a pleasure to watch. Grunder has to be 1 of the quicker big men ever ever scene  Hopefully this Friday we can slow him down . Gotta believe that Weekes ab grunder are in the running for Allsunyac  they are the only 2 players listed in the top 5 in scoring and rebounding (conference only stats>

On a side not, now having the Magicman on these boards is different  It just aint the same  Magicman...we miss you  Ge well!!


BENGALS FOR LIFE!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 20, 2022, 07:36:55 AM
Just wondering-- who voted for those ridiculous "Regional Rankings." Oswego St. # 4? They beat the #1 and #2 teams ahead of them and didn't play Utica College. Wow- that is NO RESPECT!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 20, 2022, 01:25:58 PM
Quote from: scooterman on February 20, 2022, 07:36:55 AM
Just wondering-- who voted for those ridiculous "Regional Rankings." Oswego St. # 4? They beat the #1 and #2 teams ahead of them and didn't play Utica College. Wow- that is NO RESPECT!!!

RPI - .826, .541, 3-1
Naz - .870, .506, 4-3
Utica - .864, .498, 4-2
Oswego - .913, .505, 2-1

RPI's SOS is significant enough to put them first.  The other three are pretty similar, although the 4 regionally ranked wins will look better than Oswego's 2.  Additionally, Naz split with Utica and beat Oswego, plus their regionally ranked wins are better overall.  Oswego's two wins aren't significant enough to counter Utica's 4.

Those teams are all very close and likely will be ranked in a different order this week.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 26, 2022, 12:25:06 PM
Well Oneonta is the last team standing in the way of Oswego going to the tourney. I really don't think they will beat them but you never know. I watched the Oneonta-Bport game last night and that was one of the worst officiated games I had seen in a long time. It was very disappointing to see that level of officiating in SUNYAC championships. Both teams played hard and Oneonta came out on top. Congrats and Good Luck to the Dragons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 04, 2022, 07:58:09 PM
With Mount Union/Swarthmore losing and Oswego rolling I see more evidence that Oswego should have hosted this weekend.   I'm sure there will be some "well ACTUALLY" responses by a select few, but Oswego deserved to be hosting.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 04, 2022, 08:04:28 PM
Williams is also in that Mt. Union bracket, and they and Oswego are one spot apart in Massey. 

Yes, I too thought that Oswego deserved a host, a 2 pt loss in November and a one point road loss in a conference rematch are their only blemishes.

Their facility is large and well lit and maintained, would have been a great host site.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 05, 2022, 09:43:08 PM
Oswego cruised again for an easy victory.  Now they get another shot at Marietta in the sweet 16.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 07, 2022, 12:11:33 PM
Congratulations to Coach Jason Leone and the Oswego State Lakers.

Maybe their season will last long enough to grab 4 more wins. With a 27-2 record the Lakers are only 3 points from having an undefeated season with just a 1 point loss and a 2 point loss. The only school with a better record than the Lakers is Randolph-Macon College at 29-1. Oswego's 27 wins are a new record for the college.

Friday night will mark 3 years and 3 days since the last time the Lakers were in the Sweet 16. They came up short that night but will have a chance for a little revenge as they lost to Marietta College in that game and get to play them once again. Marietta also comes into Friday's contest with a 27-2 record. Should be a great game.

Marietta is led by Jason Ellis, Lukas Isaly, Tim Kreeger and Mason Lydic, 4 seniors that played in that game against Oswego 3 years ago when they were freshmen. Ellis, Isaly and Kreeger started in that game and scored 13, 10 and 4 points respectively. Now as seniors they are averaging 17.3, 15.3 and 11.8 ppg respectively. Lydic is also starting and averaging 10.8 ppg. So the Lakers will have their work cut out for them. Ellis (75x182), Isaly (68x162) and Lydic (46x107) are all 3 point shooters and all three guys average over 40% from distance. The Pioneers' rotation goes 11 deep.

Marietta may be ranked #2 in the country but the Lakers can win this game. I hope there are a bunch of Laker fans going to the game to give the team some support.           

What are the odds that you would play the same team in the Sweet 16 that you played the last time you were there?

Good Luck Oswego....go get em


***Slight correction...Jason Ellis and Tim Kreeger  are both 5th year seniors and were sophomore starters, not freshmen, as I mentioned above, the last time Marietta faced Oswego, in March of 2019.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 07, 2022, 08:00:47 PM
The magicman is back!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on March 07, 2022, 08:35:44 PM
Amen - missed his contributions.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 15, 2022, 09:01:04 PM
I'm having a really hard time understanding why Flockerzi was given Region 3 coach of the year over Jason Leone by d3hoops.com.   I am not going to be persuaded by the "SUNYAC was down this year" excuse.  That's weak.

NABC actually knows what they're doing and voted him coach of the year in the region. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 24, 2022, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: stlawus on March 15, 2022, 09:01:04 PM
I'm having a really hard time understanding why Flockerzi was given Region 3 coach of the year over Jason Leone by d3hoops.com.   I am not going to be persuaded by the "SUNYAC was down this year" excuse.  That's weak.

NABC actually knows what they're doing and voted him coach of the year in the region.

Plus K. I agree. Coach Leone would get my vote as the top coach in the region and would have been on my short list as a candidate for National Coach of the Year as Oswego State finished the year with a 27-3 record. 

Rochester had a decent year but I don't recall any coach getting Regional Coach of the Year honors  with an 18-9 won-lost record and a 4th place conference record of 8-6. They had some nice wins but too many losses. Sorry guys at d3hoops....you missed the boat on this one. I realize there are years when a new coach comes along and turns a program around and an 18-9 record might truly merit being worthy of awards, but that's not the case with Rochester this year. Coach Leone's Lakers set a program record for wins and with a little luck could have made the Final Four with an undefeated record. Final ranking is #11 in the country (I had them at #8).   I think that's a special year that deserves the top regional honors.     
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 24, 2022, 01:14:59 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 24, 2022, 11:26:17 AM

Rochester had a decent year but I don't recall any coach getting Regional Coach of the Year honors  with an 18-9 won-lost record and a 4th place conference record of 8-6.


First place isn't required for coach of the year honors -- there are a number of places we go with these, and while one of them is "regional team which lasted the longest in the tournament" or "regional team which was highest in the Top 25 entering the postseason" we also recognize "regional team which outperformed expectations or dealt with adversity," and "regional team which made an unexpected postseason run" etc.

I would encourage you to look at Region 9 this year, for example, for another similar example.

Do not interpret this as us trying to run down Jason Leone's year! We simply can only choose one.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 25, 2022, 02:31:36 PM
Apparently I missed RETURN OF THE KING. Hope magicman sticks around next year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 25, 2022, 02:32:21 PM
How's the league look next year? Oswego St again?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 25, 2022, 05:32:15 PM
This is based on who was honored at the last home game:
Oswego has 13 coming back, including 4 starters, Green and Sparks are studs, plus Leone will never stop adding folks he think can help. 
Oneonta loses starter Sean Nolan, and reserves Kameron Hickey and Taylor Mason, but does Joseph Bull return?
Brockport loses Devante Hagins, Antonio Alvarez, & Brandon Kennedy-Gay, They still have Jahidi Wallace back.
New Paltz should be solid, only lose one senior, who saw little action.
Cortland only loses one starter, and their 6th man, - Austin Grunder is an All-American, suspect he will attract some other players
Potsdam only loses one reserve, Tyrese Baptiste should be back, They played a very young lineup, 2 fr, 2 sophs ,so should be better for the experience.
Geneseo loses their two top scorers in Michael Gannon & Terence Nichols so they could be in a rebuild mode
Buff State returns everyone that was playing at the end of the year, as does Fredonia.
Plattsburgh loses one senior
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 25, 2022, 06:53:24 PM
Is Derice returning for Oneonta? He's listed as a senior and he started. No mention of Ortale. He was a new transfer. 2nd in scoring and 1st on the team in rebounds.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on August 15, 2022, 11:03:34 PM
Oswego picks up a 6'6" G/F Cartier Bowman from D2 Saint Rose.  Leone has got quite a few impact D2 transfers over the past 5 or 6 years, another solid pickup for the Lakers.   Played in all 24 games for Golden Knights and started in 8 while averaging 7 points and 5 rebounds.  Was originally headed to D1 Tarleton State, but Leone worked his magic.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on August 19, 2022, 01:07:22 PM
Potsdam just posted their schedule, open with RPI at the Hilbert tournament in the Buffalo Suburbs on Veteran's Day. Vikings play the Bills in OP that Sunday.  Guess I need to start working on the wife.

Rest of Non conference schedule is pretty much as expected, @ SUNY Poly, SLU, Clarkson, Canton H&A. 


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on August 19, 2022, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: thebear on August 19, 2022, 01:07:22 PM
Potsdam just posted their schedule, open with RPI at the Hilbert tournament in the Buffalo Suburbs on Veteran's Day. Vikings play the Bills in OP that Sunday.  Guess I need to start working on the wife.

Rest of Non conference schedule is pretty much as expected, @ SUNY Poly, SLU, Clarkson, Canton H&A.

SUNY Poly matchup should be a good one, they return most of their lineup including O'Dell.  Looks like Josh Gregory is playing in Europe for the upcoming season.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TIMBOSTEW on September 23, 2022, 04:03:18 PM
I see SUNY New Paltz landed a transfer from NJIT. A big , should give them some more depth and another target for Blando and St. Lucia to feed. They should be in the mix.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 26, 2022, 07:45:35 PM
Oswego's roster is up, starting five are all regulars from last year, added a first team all-state player in Josh Thigpen, and 6-4 swing Joey Rowback who averaged 24ppg last year in JUCO.  Lakers appear to be worthy of the gaudy preseason ranking.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 08, 2022, 09:56:02 PM
Cortland holds off host Ithaca 82-80 in Tuesday opener. Both sides with veteran outfits. RDragons finish first half with 3-point flourish for 44-36 lead. Corts sustain final half upper hand and take 77-65 gap. Bombers close fast requiring Dragon K. Lubin clutch free throws down the stretch to hold the lead. Ithacans good baseline final look just off line. Lubin 20 pts, 11 rebs, 4 assts; AJ Lawton 18 pts; A. Grunder 16 pts, 13 rebs, 3 assts, 2 blks over 40 minutes; R. McEvoy 11 pts. IC's L. Wendell 26 pts(8x16fg), Z. Warech 16 pts, L. Radovich 11 pts. Cortland 42-36 board edge.

New Paltz 92, Merchant Marine 65
Plattsburgh 76, Clarkson 71
Alfred 72, Brockport 69
Rochester 79, Geneseo 62
Allegheny 94, Fredonia 53
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 11, 2022, 08:01:21 PM
Cortland handles debuting Union 87-69 in Friday opening round of Nazareth tourney. RDragons vs. host in Saturday afternoon final. Naz pulls away from Gordon MA 90-72. CSt at 2-0 builds late first half edge to 41-34 at intermission and quickly pulls away. Tis 69-46 through first eight minutes of final period. Margin grows to 27. A. Grunder 30 pts(10x20fg, 2x5 3s, 8x9ft, 11reb, 2assts), 19 in the first half; C. Williams 20 pts(6x9fg, 4x6 3s, 4x4ft, 5reb). Dutchman M. Manley 18 pts(6x11fg, 4x7 3s); B. Noone 13 pts(6x10fg).
Not all on the plus side for Corts who lose starter AJ Lawton to leg injury after just over seven minutes. Considerable game delay while ambulance is summoned

Brockport 92, Keystone PA 78
Mass College of Lib Arts 75, Plattsburgh 72
Trinity TX 83, Fredonia 48 in Rochester tourney 1st round
Oswego 65, Hobart 53 in E. Conn. tourney 1st round
Skidmore 76, New Paltz 72
Oneonta 85, Pratt 34
Widener PA 85, Geneseo 53 in Widener tourney 1st round
RPI 65, Potsdam 53 in Hilbert tourney 1st round
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 11, 2022, 09:08:51 PM
In a low scoring affair, Potsdam leads #23 RPI at the Half 24-20.  Winner meets the hosts tomorrow afternoon.

No stats available
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 11, 2022, 09:15:49 PM
The Bears are playing well.  RPI definitely missing Memmelaar and Mahoney, those guys gave RPI a lot of spacing last year.  If Potsdam keeps up on the boards they'll have a shot.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 12, 2022, 10:19:03 AM
Oswego come from Behind win vs. Hobart at E. Conn tournament.  Very "un-Leone" to see him use only a 7 person rotation this early in the season.

Amazing stat for the Lakers to see only 3 turnovers in 40 minutes.

Akee Anderson led Oswego with 15 points.

Newcomers Cartier Bowman [St. Rose xfer] and Joey Rowback [Juco Xfer] combined for 21 points in 45 minutes.

Oswego never went to the free throw line, and Hobart committed just 6 fouls in the game.

Meshanic brothers (3) combined for 24 points and 24 rebounds in 75 minutes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 12, 2022, 04:07:37 PM
Cortland crushing 79-44 fall Saturday to Nazareth in Naz tourney final. First RDragons loss after two wins; host Flyers 2-0. Corts never in this game. Down double figures early and 41-20 at half. Never gets better. Dragons 18x60fg, 2x18 3s. A. Grunder 9pts, 9rebs; R. McEvoy 9pts pace guests. Flyers 32x64fg, 10x23 3s led by J. Park 25 pts(12x16fg), 15rebs

Oswego 60, E. Conn. 50 in EC tourney final. Lakers A. Anderson 21pts; J. Sparks 15pts, 10rebs; C. Bowman 15rebs
Oneonta 76, Drew NJ 55 in Oneonta tourney final. OSt's J. Bull 10pts, 12rets; G. Wooden 15pts; M. Ortale 14pts; C. Brown 12pts
Morrisville 98, Potsdam 89 in Hilbert tourney consi
Geneseo 53, Stevens NJ 51 in Widener PA tourney consi
Ohio Wesleyan 79, Buffalo St. 63 in John Carroll OH Classic
Texas-Dallas 81, Fredonia 46 in Rochester tourney consi
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 13, 2022, 06:56:13 PM
Wittenberg 75, Buffalo St. 68 in John Carroll OH Classic
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 17, 2022, 12:48:49 PM
Bport Eagles are off to 2-1 start with wins over Keystone and an always tough Hobart College. They look to be a pretty solid group with Wallace and Beckett leading the way. They should be in the mix for the top of SUNY's. Obviously, #5, Oswego is the team to beat.

SUNY's seem to be holding a slight edge in the nonconference tilts with the Liberty League. I can remember the days when the Liberty League was head and shoulders above the SUNY's but not anymore.

Looking forward to successful SUNYAC season. Good Luck to All!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 17, 2022, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: scooterman on November 17, 2022, 12:48:49 PM
SUNY's seem to be holding a slight edge in the nonconference tilts with the Liberty League. I can remember the days when the Liberty League was head and shoulders above the SUNY's but not anymore.


Two more SUNYAC - LL data points will be added in the North Woods this weekend, as the Potsdam Bears visit St. Lawrence on Friday night and cross the Racquette River to visit Clarkson on Saturday afternoon.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 27, 2022, 08:58:16 AM
Bport went down to the city and handled York 95-64 before Thanksgiving and open up with Buff St on Tuesday at Buff.

I was a little surprised the Oswego lost to Naz 80-77 at Naz. I knew Naz had a good squad but thought the Lakers would hand them 1st defeat. Oswego opens up against Fredonia.

Good luck to all the SUNY schools!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 29, 2022, 09:03:11 AM
SUNYAC opens conference play tonight.

In the Eastern Half of the state, travel partners face off with Plattsburgh at Potsdam and the lone remaining undefeated team, Oneonta hosting travel partner New Paltz.

In the central/west, we have Brockport at Buffalo State, Geneseo at Cortland, and Fredonia at Oswego.

double headers with the women, ladies at 5:30 men at 7:30.

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2022, 12:20:52 PM
Game of the night in the SUNYAC appears to be the Brockport Golden Eagles taking a two hour drive along Rt 104 to take on the #12 Oswego Lakers.  These are two of the top teams in the conference and this seems to be unusually early in the season for this matchup.  Jahidi Wallace and Jeremiah Sparks going at it will be fun to watch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 02, 2022, 01:20:42 PM
Bport and Oswego is big early season matchup and should be very competitive. It will be interesting to see how the Lakers defend Beckett for the Eagles. Wallace is the veteran but Beckett has had a great start to the season. I give the Lakers an edge over my beloved Eagles, but games are played for a reason!!! Good Luck, Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 02, 2022, 09:32:41 PM
Scooter is a happy man tonight.  His Eagles went into Laker Hall and beat Oswego 58-47 in a low scoring affair, likely knocking the Lakers out of the National Rankings.

Jahidi Wallace had 21 to lead the Eagles and Mekhi Beckett added 15.  Devin Green led Oswego with 11 points.  Oswego was held to 25% shooting at home.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 02, 2022, 09:49:40 PM
Bear- You are so right. The Eagles played a super defensive game and scored just enough. Thank
god the the foul shots were falling tonight.(17-23) The Lakers are tough whereever you play them, but my Eagles SOARED tonight!!!!

A tough Cortland squad comes to the Eagles' nest tomorrow PM. Got to keep the streak rolling!! Rest up and take the fire out of those Dragons!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 03, 2022, 12:36:16 PM
Spanny's R ed Dragons had to travel to Fredonia and squeaked one out 70-64. Now at the Eagles' Nest against Dunne's Red Hot Eagles at 5PM. Both are 2-0 in conference play can gain an early season advantage for SUNYAC playoff time.

Can my Eagles put together a GREAT weekend of hoops? I give them the edge tonight at home but will be a barnburner. Spanny hates to lose to the other PE school, THE PORT! Good luck, Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 17, 2022, 02:35:26 PM
Cortland with real nice 85-78 win at previously unbeaten Utica this afternoon. K. Lubin with 19 RDragon points to lead five visitors in double figures. Corts lead throughout, though never by much. UC within one late. Lubin nails 3-ball to lead strong CSt finish. Dragons 8-1, Pioneers 6-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 27, 2022, 08:30:46 AM
I attended the Mauro Panaggio Memorial Tourney at DME Academy in Daytona Beach on December 18-19. I got to see my Golden Eagles split two games losing to Illinois College and defeating North Vermont at Lydon. It was a fun trip and nice to spend a little time with the Bport guys. I hope they had a Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year!!! Get ready to take care of business in the SUNY's!!! Good luck!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 27, 2022, 12:32:30 PM
Quote from: jdex on December 17, 2022, 02:35:26 PM
Cortland with real nice 85-78 win at previously unbeaten Utica this afternoon. K. Lubin with 19 RDragon points to lead five visitors in double figures. Corts lead throughout, though never by much. UC within one late. Lubin nails 3-ball to lead strong CSt finish. Dragons 8-1, Pioneers 6-1

Big win, I deed. May go a long way come tournament time. I expect Utica to be up there and regionally ranked too.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on December 31, 2022, 12:00:56 AM
Seems like fatigue got the best of Cortland today.  Juniata isn't a bad team but all things equal Cortland should probably have won that.  Grunder played all 80 minutes this weekend.  That does not seem particularly sustainable heading into the grind of SUNYAC conference play. Cam Williams played 75 minutes and Kareem Lubin would have probably played the same if not for getting in foul trouble today.

Oswego got a really good win @ Utica today in a game that was double digits for most of the contest.  Utica was without one of their best players, but I don't know if it would have mattered much.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 03, 2023, 05:58:12 PM
Cortland bounces back with impressive 87-82 Tuesday beating of Scranton at C-St. Leads by one at intermission and tightropes to the finish line with clutch A. Coston, K. Lubin points. Survives Scranton 58.5 fg assault. RDragons A. Grunder with 29 pts, 14 reb, 5 assts; Lubin 17 pts, Coston 16 pts, 6reb in 27 minutes; C. Williams 14 pts. Pennsy's J. Danzig 31 pts, 5x7 3s, 9 reb, 4 stls; S. Braunstein 13 pts.
   Cortland 10-2, Scranton 9-3 after opening 8-0, then pair of setbacks in Puerto Rico. Corts fall by 30plus at Scranton a year ago.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on January 03, 2023, 06:04:46 PM
It was a very entertaining game. ;)
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on January 06, 2023, 01:49:41 PM
I wonder how good Cortland is. They've had Grunder in the past and have been a middle of the pack SUNYAC team. They've had some good quality wins, so could they actually unseat Oswego St or Brockport, who always seems to be good.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on January 06, 2023, 02:27:05 PM
 Cortland has a frosh big(Coston) who played well against Scranton; he allows Grunder to roam wherever on offense and may be the ingredient missing the previous 2 seasons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 09, 2023, 07:24:52 AM
Cortland-Bport rematch tomorrow afternoon @ Cortland. It should be a good one!!! A 3 point game at the Port. We will see who leads the pack after tomorrow!!! Lets go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 09, 2023, 11:13:31 AM
Quote from: scooterman on January 09, 2023, 07:24:52 AM
Cortland-Bport rematch tomorrow afternoon @ Cortland. It should be a good one!!! A 3 point game at the Port. We will see who leads the pack after tomorrow!!! Lets go Eagles!!!

This should be a good test for both teams. 

Crowded at the Top of the SUNYAC.

Cortland at 7-0,
Oswego at 6-1 [Home Loss to Brockport],
Brockport 5-1 [Home Loss to Cortland],
Oneonta, New Paltz [both had road wins against the other] - 5-1. 

Looking forward to watching


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 10, 2023, 05:51:04 PM
My Eagles turned a close halftime score,42-39, into a blow out in the 2nd half. Final score 86-62! The Eagles haven't played with that defensive intensity since the Oswego game. Cortland couldn't mount any kind of offense in the second half. Beckett caught fire and finished with 27 points and Wallace added 16 points and played well at both ends. This was a great team effort with many contributors at both ends of the floor. Well done, Bport!

Big weekend @NP and Oneonta. Good Luck
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 12, 2023, 10:15:24 AM
A correction to this weekend's games, NP and Oneonta will be at the Port!!! Let's go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on January 14, 2023, 09:08:15 AM
Big test for Oneonta today. The last few years they've always seemed to be on the cusp of breaking into the elite category in the conference. They got the win last night, so topping Brock would be huge. They have yet to play Cort or Oswego.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 15, 2023, 03:10:51 PM
Oneonta remains on "the cusp." They are a very good team and Bull is a horse(get the play on words) but still looking up to the top of the heap. The Eagles were on the ropes but TA hits a twisting layup in final seconds for the victory. Bport moves to 8-1 in conference play and complete a very strong weekend of play. Keep it going. Congrats!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on January 21, 2023, 08:26:39 AM
Bport is on the most dreaded trip of the season to the "North Country." They played a close first half with Plattsburgh but lead by 3, 41-38 getting loose. They used the first 10 minutes of the second half to extend that lead to double digits and coasted from there winning 81-63. They got some good minutes out of a couple of their freshman players which was nice to see. Good start to the weekend.

On to Potsdam and hopefully another victory. Good luck today!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on February 03, 2023, 11:38:52 PM
Oswego has certainly been the class of the YAC for a while now, but I've never seen them slaughter teams like they're doing this season. Ever since they "only" won by 8 at Oneonta a few weeks ago they've scored at least 97 in every game and are winning by 30-60 points. They beat New Paltz by 59 tonight and NP will be a SUNYAC tournament qualifier, not like they're Fredonia or anything.

Could the Lakers possibly be Final Four quality? Definitely maybe, right?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on February 03, 2023, 11:48:20 PM
Lakers are fully capable of making it to the final weekend.  Watch the committee screw them out of hosting the first round.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 04, 2023, 08:25:43 AM
Lakers are very deep, remind me of the Potsdam undefeated team of the 80's; first rate starting five, and little to no dropoff in quality from the bench. 
 
Jeremiah Sparks is a "swiss army knife player"  can dominate, and makes everone around him better, scores, rebounds, passes, great defender.

Oswego classes are in session for a first round pod, and have a facility that seats 3,000 plus. They also have a showplace hockey arena to boot.

The first weekend works for Oswego, but the second doesn't because the students are on break and they will be in the mix to host NCAA hockey.

Rochester did lose last night, so we will see where the NCAA regional rankings come out. 

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: ronk on February 04, 2023, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: thebear on February 04, 2023, 08:25:43 AM
Lakers are very deep, remind me of the Potsdam undefeated team of the 80's; first rate starting five, and little to no dropoff in quality from the bench. 
 
Jeremiah Sparks is a "swiss army knife player"  can dominate, and makes everone around him better, scores, rebounds, passes, great defender.

Oswego classes are in session for a first round pod, and have a facility that seats 3,000 plus. They also have a showplace hockey arena to boot.

The first weekend works for Oswego, but the second doesn't because the students are on break and they will be in the mix to host NCAA hockey.

Rochester did lose last night, so we will see where the NCAA regional rankings come out. 



The discussion on the happy hour segment of the Hoopsville marathon re hosting sounded like one would need to be willing to host both weekends so it might be an argument between Oswego basketball and hockey as to which one would apply for the hosting. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 04, 2023, 03:27:43 PM

I believe it's one application for hosting, but you don't have to be able to host the second weekend to host the first.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on February 11, 2023, 07:41:05 PM
Absolute beat down of Cortland today by Oswego.  That's a statement win if I've ever seen one.  Has a SUNYAC team pulverized as many teams in a season within the last 25 years or so as the Lakers have this year?  I really hope they put in a bid to host, would love to see some midwest teams go in there thinking they're hot s*** and get a pounding.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on February 15, 2023, 07:23:07 AM
In total agreement with you. The Laker team this season has really stepped it up this last quarter of the season. They are beating some very good SUNY teams soundly. I hope they host too even though I would still have to watch on video. My Eagles have to face them Friday night and I am hoping for a repeat performance of the early season game. They better have their AAA game on because the Lakers are for real. Good Luck, Eagles!!!!

BTW--I think the last team to show this type of SUNY domination was the 2001-02 Brockport Golden Eagles that went 28-3 and reached the Elite 8!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on February 15, 2023, 10:01:13 AM
04-05 Potsdam team also reached the Elite 8, 27-4 that year, lost to eventual runner-up U of R in the Sectional Final after defeating unbeaten St. John Fisher in the Sweet 16.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on February 16, 2023, 07:57:19 PM
I wish this site allowed clown emojis because they are an apt description of the top 16 rankings which excluded Oswego.  It's no wonder this region's board doesn't have much activity these days, these teams never get the recognition they deserve.   Can't wait for a 9 loss Rochester to host a first weekend pod featuring Oswego playing them in the first round.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on February 17, 2023, 09:09:52 AM
Yeah, that's rough. St. Thomas TX was missing too.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2023, 12:04:50 PM
Quote from: stlawus on February 16, 2023, 07:57:19 PM
Can't wait for a 9 loss Rochester to host a first weekend pod featuring Oswego playing them in the first round.

I suspect this was facetious, but if not, I don't know why this would happen. Oswego is ranked ahead of Rochester in the same region.

It did seem like there was a floor to the SOS for teams that were included in the Top 16, and Oswego was at the bottom there. Also Oswego has fewer games against regionally ranked opponents than just about everyone included.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on February 17, 2023, 03:33:52 PM
Of course it's a facetious comment but it's pointing out what I feel to be absolute nonsense from the committee. There are other criteria besides SOS and RvR. They can't use the eye test or anything not listed in the criteria, but a peek at Massey and Matt Snyder's efficiency ratings reveals them top 10 in both which should be a clue. Let's just look at some head to head stuff (actual criteria). Oswego is a week removed from beating Cortland (regionally ranked) by 40. They beat New Paltz by 50 who a top 16 team (Williams) beat by 6.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 17, 2023, 04:05:12 PM
In the eyes of the committee, those are both W's. For all we know, Oswego is 17 -- it's not like Oswego is 32.

I know when I am doing my Top 25 ballot, the difference between my No. 10 and No. 17 this season is basically a wash. There are so many really good teams.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 04, 2023, 07:34:00 PM
Great to see Oswego serve the OAC some humble pie today.  John Carroll returns a lot so they'll be back next year, but Oswego showed a lot of poise after their slow start. 

Assuming RMC wins today, it doesn't get any easier for the Lakers next week. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 04, 2023, 11:11:29 PM
Congrats to Coach Jason Leone and the Oswego State Lakers for once again making the Sweet Sixteen. It would be nice if they could pull off a few more wins but they will have to do so, on the road, at the top ranked team in the country.

Win or lose next week, they have already made the SUNYAC proud! Another outstanding year on the court.


Go Lakers
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2023, 07:14:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2023, 11:11:29 PM
Congrats to Coach Jason Leone and the Oswego State Lakers for once again making the Sweet Sixteen. It would be nice if they could pull off a few more wins but they will have to do so, on the road, at the top ranked team in the country.

Win or lose next week, they have already made the SUNYAC proud! Another outstanding year on the court.


Go Lakers

Welcome back!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 06, 2023, 05:28:44 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 05, 2023, 07:14:44 PM
Quote from: magicman on March 04, 2023, 11:11:29 PM
Congrats to Coach Jason Leone and the Oswego State Lakers for once again making the Sweet Sixteen. It would be nice if they could pull off a few more wins but they will have to do so, on the road, at the top ranked team in the country.

Win or lose next week, they have already made the SUNYAC proud! Another outstanding year on the court.


Go Lakers

Welcome back!

Thank you, Pat. I've never really been away as I read the boards all the time. I just don't comment much anymore.   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 06, 2023, 05:59:22 AM
Hey Magic--Ditto your comment. The Lakers are representing the SUNYAC's very well. I wish it could have been my Eagles but am very proud of Coach Leone and the Lakers!!! Keep it going!!!! GO LAKERS!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 10, 2023, 08:47:57 PM
That has to be the biggest win in Oswego history, right?  What a performance.  Playing the #1 team/defending champs on their own court who had a 64 game home win streak, and win rather comfortably.   I don't think RMC gave the Lakers respect until it was too late.  Even the commentating team pre-game was talking about the game like it was already a done deal.  Oswego continuously beat them off the dribble and they looked completely shook.    The Lakers only lose one player from this year's team too.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 10, 2023, 09:16:14 PM
Great game by the Oswego State Lakers to go to #1 Randolph-Macon's court and end  the Yellowjackets 64 game home winning streak.

Lakers took this game over right from the start and had a double digit lead throughout much of the game. Led by as much as 16 points in the 2nd half before the Yellowjackets made a run to close within 3 points. Lakers promptly opened it back up to double digits and hit their free throws down the stretch. Final score was 74-63.

Jeremiah Sparks with 24 points, Ahkee Anderson with 22 and Devin Green with 13 led the way. Jamal Achille was the leading rebounder for Oswego with 8 boards while adding 9 points.

I believe this is the first time the Lakers have made the Elite Eight, after knocking on the door a few times in the last 6 years. They will now face UW-Whitewater who defeated Johns Hopkins in overtime 83-82.

D3hoops is showing the game starting at 7:00 PM Saturday evening.


Go Lakers

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on March 11, 2023, 10:20:03 PM
Oswego State falls to UW-Whitewater 77-74.

Tough loss tonight by the Lakers. Great season for the SUNYAC Champs. I'm sure they will be back next year looking to dance once again.

Congrats to Coach Jason Leone and his team on a nice run in the tournament. 

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on March 12, 2023, 11:37:25 AM
Congrats to Coach Leone and the Oswego Lakers!!! You guys represented the SUNY's with distinction!!! I watched all 3 of your games even though I am a die-hard Port fan. Enjoy the off-season and see you next season!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on March 21, 2023, 09:38:51 AM
Any word on the listed seniors returning next season? Green, Achille, Cook for Oswego St; Wallace, Grady, Cowie for Brockport; Williams, Cabrera, Preston for Cortland; Bull, Derice, Ortale for Oneonta.

Grunder played in the All-star game, so he's done.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: nescac1 on March 21, 2023, 10:56:03 AM
I remember reading that Green was the only senior recognized on senior day for Oswego ... while he is a big loss, they will be loaded again next year. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 21, 2023, 11:11:07 AM
nescac is correct, Green is the lone departure. Achille and Cook return next year. 

I don't think Wallace at Brockport has remaining eligibility.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on March 21, 2023, 11:50:17 AM
Quote from: stlawus on March 21, 2023, 11:11:07 AM

I don't think Wallace at Brockport has remaining eligibility.

From looking up senior day photos the following A/C Players got photos, plaques, and mention in news release:

Oswego - Green - only senior. Achille is listed as a Sr. but has only played 3 yrs.
Brockport - Wallace, Grady, (4) total
Oneonta - Bull, Derice, [Ortale 21-22]
Cortland - Grunder [7 total]
NP - [2 Total]
Geneseo - [2 total]
Potsdam - Segar [3 total]
Plattsburgh - [3 total]
Fredonia - [2 total]
Buffalo State - [2 total]

Some of these folks have a year of eligibility left, but unless they are A/C level players, doubtful they want to spend close to $20K in tuition and living expenses for that last year. 

Cortland has the most (7) and biggest [Grunder] individual holes to fill, although conference ROY Coston should be able to replace some of Grunder's production.



Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TheOsprey on March 21, 2023, 01:07:30 PM
Tobin Anderson to Iona on five year deal.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on March 29, 2023, 11:06:28 AM
Tom Spanbauer stepping down after 28 years as head coach at Cortland. End of quite the era!! Compiled 459-277 record from 1995-2023 with the RDragons after spending one season piloting Alfred U. Was 6-time SUNYAC coach of the year. 'Span's' Cortland outfits were 3-time conference tourney titlists and 6-time NCAA tourney qualifiers. Outstanding collegiate Dragon playing career as well .....2-time captain, 2-time All-Conference and 1,106 point producer. 
     Well done .....a competitor of the first order!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 12, 2023, 07:23:58 PM
Just learned that Potsdam has added a game against D-I U Albany on December 5th.  7 PM tip at the Broadview [formerly SEFCU] Arena.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on October 26, 2023, 02:41:55 PM
Since Jersey42 on the LL site was good enough to compile a non-conference schedule, here's what the SUNYAC non-conference schedule looks like.
Red is for 2022-23 NCAA Teams, Green is for D-I or D-2. (N) is for Neutral site [e.g. tournament] games

Brockport

@ Hobart College
Keystone College
(N) Salisbury University
@ Hunter College
@ Alfred University
Morrisville State College

Buffalo State

@  Nazareth University
(N) SUNY Canton or York (PA)
Utica University
Alfred University
@ Christopher Newport
Mary Washington
Niagara University (D-I)

Cortland

Ithaca
@ Western New England
(N) Bates or Kean
Hamilton
Utica
(N) Stockton
@ Albright or (N) Neumann

Fredonia

Allegheny
Grove City
@ Penn State Behrend
Hilbert
@ Pitt-Bradford
@ Chatham
@ Le Moyne (exhibition)
@ Houghton
@ Mercyhurst (exhibition)

Geneseo

Alfred State College
(N) John Carroll University
(N) Yeshiva University
Houghton University
Keuka College
@ Alfred University
@ St. Lawrence University

New Paltz

@ Skidmore College
@ Merchant Marine
(N) Vassar College
Bard College
John Jay
Misericordia
Hunter

Oneonta

Hartwick
Yeshiva
John Carroll
@ Lehigh (D-I)
Wells
@ Williams
(N) Maritime
@ NYU or (N) SUNY Canton

Oswego

SUNY Poly
RPI or Keuka
Clarkson University
Nazareth University
St. Lawrence University
[N] Case Western Reserve University
[N] Pomona-Pitzer

Plattsburgh

@ Clarkson
@ University of Vermont
@ St. Lawrence
SUNY Cobleskill
@ Vermont State - Lyndon
Middlebury
Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts

Potsdam

St. Lawrence
@ Utica
Skidmore
Clarkson
@ Canton
@ Albany [D-I]
SUNY Poly
@ Hamilton


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 08, 2023, 08:07:02 AM
SUNYAC Rosters are up.

All conference returnees in Red

First Team               
Mekhi Beckett   So.   G/F   Brockport   
Austin Grunder   Sr.   F   Cortland
Joseph Bull   Sr.   F   Oneonta
Devin Green   Sr.   G   Oswego
Jeremiah Sparks   Jr.   Oswego
               
Second Team               
Tony   Arnold   So.   G   Brockport
David Grady III   Sr.   F   Brockport   
Jahidi Wallace   Sr.   F   Brockport   
Rylan Blondo   Jr.   G   New Paltz   
Ahkee Anderson   So.   G   Oswego
               
Third Team               
Kareem Lubin   Jr.   G/F   Cortland   
Cole   Kattan   Jr.   G   Geneseo   
Daniel Derice   Sr.   F   Oneonta   
Jamal Achille   Sr.      Oswego   
Kevin Tabb   So.   G   Plattsburgh
Brandon Segar Jr.   Sr.   F   Potsdam
Ahamadou Sillah   Jr.   F   Potsdam
               
Rookie of the Year               
Aaron   Coston   Fr.    F   Cortland   


Most intriguing adds are:

Oneonta - Javon Flowers-Smith - Xfer from Keystone [PA] #5 nationally [24 ppg] in D3 scoring in 2022-23
                Xavier Hill - Xfer from Corning CC - 20 ppg, 10 rpg

Cortland - Jaylen Warmack - Xfer from Onondaga CC - 23 ppg 139 assists in 2022-23


Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 08, 2023, 08:40:13 AM
Not that Oswego St needs to be any better, but 3rd teamer Jamal Achille is on their roster as a grad student. Also returning as a grad student (again?) is Julian Crittendon , who apparently missed last year, but was the 3rd leading scorer in 21-22 behind Sparks and Green. Lastly, their top reserve, Kaleb Cook, is back as a grad student, along with a couple of transfers.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 09, 2023, 10:57:03 PM
Cortland has Ithaca down a good deal of Thursday opening contest at CSt but big buckets by Bomber spare A. Geschickter provide spark for IC 85-81 overtime victory. Geschickter with 15pts (5x11fg, 3x5 key 3s) in 22' -- one of five Ithacans in double figures. Vet L. Wendell with 21pts (7x19fg, 3x7 3s) in 39', A. Holmes 13pts, T. Wennersten 10 pts, E. Cabral 10pts. Six RDragons in double figures led by holdovers D. Linehan 17pts (6x13fg, 4x8 3s) in 36'; K. Lubin 10 pts. Newcomers J. Warmack with 13 pts, 11rebs, 7assts in 45'; Belgian P. Hajjar 16pts; B. Beaubrun 12pts; reserve N. Button 11pts in 16'. Conference top rookie A. Coston just 2pts, 4rebs in 17'.
  IC trails by 11 late in poor shooting first half before drawing within 34-26 at half. Strong final half 47 point performance. Finally seize slim late lead in what becomes 73-73 regulation windup. Corts front rim final attempt. Outscore hosts 12-8 in OT. Big difference in turnovers -- 23 CSt, 7 IC. Dragons with hefty 50-31 board gap.
  Ithaca spoils head coaching debut of Mo Kearney
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 13, 2023, 11:02:58 AM
It is almost time for Hoops to begin. Couple of huge changes in the SUNYAC coaching ranks, Coach Spanbauer from Cortland and Coach Dunne from my beloved Eagles. Those guys had great careers as players and coaches, and I wish them both the best in their future endeavors. They will be greatly missed, but I am sure neither program will miss a beat.

I know Interim Coach Joe Clarke and am sure he will continue to maintain the excellence of play at the Port. They have alot of returners and looks like they added some much needed inside players.

They open up tomorrow night @ Hobart! Good Luck Coach Clarke and my Eagles!!!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on November 15, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
Obviously they're not in the SUNYAC anymore but those that recall SUNY Poly (fka SUNYIT) will remember the name Kevin Grimmer, he was synonymous not only with their MBB program but all Wildcats athletics. Apparently he passed away on Monday, too young. RIP.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on November 17, 2023, 09:05:34 AM
The Eagles had a seesaw battle with the Hobart Statesman on Tuesday before dropping an 85-72 contest to the Statesman. Hobart closed it out with a string of free throws to gain the victory. They are a very strong team with very good guard play. Congrats to the Statesman.

My Eagles travel to Pennsylvania for a couple of games, starting with Keystone College tonight. Good Luck, Coach Clarke and Bport!!!

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 18, 2023, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on November 15, 2023, 08:40:21 PM
Obviously they're not in the SUNYAC anymore but those that recall SUNY Poly (fka SUNYIT) will remember the name Kevin Grimmer, he was synonymous not only with their MBB program but all Wildcats athletics. Apparently he passed away on Monday, too young. RIP.

Kevin was a Utica native and an 1980-81 NABC All-American at Hamilton College in his playing days.
 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TIMBOSTEW on November 19, 2023, 09:38:31 AM
New Paltz forces 22 turnovers, takes at least 20 more shots and loses to Bard at home by 2. Brutal. They had their shot blocker on the bench at the end of the game and Bard basically picked apart their  defense and shot lights out to win. Tough loss
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2023, 12:38:46 PM
Cortland falls 83-63 Saturday to Western New England in first round of WNE Classic. Young RDragons (0-2) still pursue consistent combination. Stay with hosts most of first half. Trail 40-30 at the break. WNE GBears (3-1) shoot 29x43fg!! Led by reigning Commonwealth CC player of the year J. Harrison's 33pts in 36'. K. Lubin paces CSt with 14pts (6x9fg, 2x4 3s), D. Linehan and A. Coston 13pts apiece.
    Dragons oppose NESCAC's Bates (0-3, 78-53 first round victim of Kean) in Sunday consi.

   Very sorry to hear passing of K. Grimmer ..... classy gentleman
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2023, 03:08:48 PM
Cortland gives new coach Mo Kearney first win with Sunday's 81-67 spilling of Bates in Western NE tourney consi. RDragons' lineup becomes more defined. Down 41-40 at intermission, K. Lubin layin lifts Corts into 52-51 lead at 12:19. Go on 18-5 run and 70-56 gap at 4'. A. Coston plays big role in the surge along with G. Beaubrun. Coston finishes with 21pts(7x12fg, 3x4 3s, 6reb) in 23' while Lubin has 20pts(7x11fg, 2x4 3s, 4x4ft, 11reb) in 28' and K. Arcuri 11pts(4x9fg) over game high 33'. For Bates tis P. Psyhogos 21pts(9x15fg, 7reb) in 27'. Cortland 1-2 and home vs. Hamilton Nov. 27; Bates 0-4
   Lubin selected to all-tourney team
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 27, 2023, 09:11:03 PM
Cortland growth continues with Monday 75-73 homecourt nip of Hamilton with strong second half for second straight win. Guests hold 38-34 halftime edge. Final lead 47-46 at 14:40. RDragons storm to 67-60 lead at 4:40 and hold on just enough with A. Coston, K. Lubin and D. Linehan free throws. Last ditch Continental 3-pointer finds only rim. Lubin with 24 pts (9x15fg, 2x4 3s, 9 reb) in 33'; Coston 15 pts (5x6fg, 7reb, 4asst); K. Arcuri 12pts, 5reb, 5asst); J. Warmack 8pt, 5reb, 4asst). Corts 26x54fg, 17assts. Hamilton 25x56fg, 33-27 reb advantage. G. Keyhani 17pts, 4x10 3s; H. Morgan 14pts(5x15fg);; C. Jenkins 12pts (4x4 3s).
     Cortland 2-2 and opens conference play at home Friday vs. Plattsburgh. Hamilton 2-3
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on December 01, 2023, 12:05:32 PM
I don't think the SUNYAC has an official preseason poll, so for those in the know, what would it look like?
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on December 01, 2023, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on December 01, 2023, 12:05:32 PM
I don't think the SUNYAC has an official preseason poll, so for those in the know, what would it look like?

Based on my reading of the tea leaves and returning rosters, I would venture that
1 Oswego - Loaded team who defeated the #1 ranked team in the Sweet Sixteen.
2. Brockport, lots returning, would like to make their last year in the SUNYAC a success.
3,4,5 Some combination of Cortland, New Paltz, Oneonta, - looking at rosters they seem tightly bunched.
6, A food fight amongst Buffalo State, Fredonia, Geneseo, Potsdam, Plattsburgh for one playoff spot, again 5 teams all closely bunched.
7-10 whoever from above that doesn't get the 6 seed.  All these teams have significant roster changes.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 01, 2023, 10:01:39 PM
As Lou Grant would say, Cortland shows spunk! Battling from 17 point deficit, RDragons outscore Plattsburgh 41-20 over final 17 minutes to register 78-74 conference home win. Third straight CSt 'W' has A. Coston (22pts, 10x14fg, 7reb, 36') bucket providing 64-62 lead at 4:49. Extends to 68-62 on K. Arcuri tipin at 3:20.
   Cardinals within 69-68 at 1:49 on D. Trembley FTs. Coston hoop and J. Warmack, Arcuri FTs finish it. Warmack 22pts, 8x12fg, 7reb, 4assts in 36'. Notches nine Dragon marks in 11-0 liftoff. Burgh even at 19 and holds 44-35 halftime lead by shooting 16x30fg 7x12 3s in opening 20'. Second half comedown -- 11x33fg, 2x12 3s.
   W. Anderson 22pts, 9x17fg, 4x7 3s, 5reb; Trembley 17pts, 8reb; K. Tabb 11pts, 4 of Cards 11stls. Corts 29x53fg, 34-29reb edge. G. Beaubrun, D. Linehan with big late triples.
    Cortland 3-2, 1-0 and Saturday Potsdam hosts; Pburgh 2-4, 0-1 and Saturday at Oswego
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TIMBOSTEW on December 02, 2023, 11:38:33 AM
New Paltz showed grit last night after a poor shooting first half. Came up with the defensive stops at the end to hold off Geneseo at Geneseo. Will have to shoot better to get past Brockport today. If there 3's drop early , they will be tough to beat.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 02, 2023, 06:03:12 PM
Cortland grabs fourth win in a row with Saturday 81-63 toppling of guest Potsdam in conference scrap. RDragons put 11 in scoring column, shooting 30x63fg led by K. Lubin19pts, 7x10fg, 2x4 3s, 14reb in 30'. J. Warmack 14pts, 5assts in 24'; P. Haggar 13pts, 45x7fg, 3x6 3s; A. Coston 11pts, 6reb; K. Arcuri 9pts, 5reb, 3stls. Haggar trey overhauls Pdam final 19-18 lead. Corts in 40-32 haltime control and gradually pull away in second stanza. P. Kelly 18pts, 8x15fg, 8reb in 27' pace Bears whose I. Oduro jr. nets 17 pts, J. Williams 10.
   Cortland 4-2, 2-0; Pdam 1-6, 0-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TIMBOSTEW on December 03, 2023, 08:13:45 AM
New Paltz with a convincing win over Brockport last night. Won 67-55, held Brockport to 20 points in first half, it helped that Brockport missed there first 19 3 point attempts. Rylan Blondo with his usual steady game, 17 points, 11 rebounds. Solomon Neuhaus had 14 points in 11 minutes off the bench. Its good to see him getting minutes after not appearing in first 4 games. He brings a consistency  with his shooting touch. AJ Knight also steady game at the point with 11 points and Tyreik Frazier getting a season high 33 minutes which produced 11 points and 5 blocks. It was nice to see better shot selection and a season low 14 3 point attempts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: scooterman on December 04, 2023, 09:01:21 PM
The SUNYAC-s got off to a good start this weekend with Oswego State winning their first two games handily and are now ranked #4 in this weeks D-3 Hoops Top 25 poll. Congrats to the Lakers!!!

My beloved Golden Eagles had an up and down weekend, beating Oneonta 87-76 on Friday and then shooting 29% the next day and lost to a good New Paltz squad 67-55.

I did notice that their best scorer, Beckett was missing from the box score all weekend. Must have had injury or illness. Hope he gets well soon, those are big shoes to fill. Go Eagles!!!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Caz Bombers on December 09, 2023, 08:23:13 PM
Buffalo State coach Fajri Ansari announced his retirement on Thursday, effective at season's end. The Bengals have really fallen on hard times the last six seasons.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TIMBOSTEW on December 10, 2023, 10:05:22 AM
What a way to start the weekend. New Paltz wins in a slugfest with Misericordia 89-77. Rylan Blondo who scored his 1,000 point , had another all-around performance with 26 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists. AJ Knight on 8-9 shooting and Kobe Bogart who was 7-13 from the field both finished with 18  points . It was a fast paced physical game and New Paltz answered every run by Misericordia. A great game to watch.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: TIMBOSTEW on December 10, 2023, 12:26:30 PM
Day two of the weekend and  it was a tale of two halves.New Paltz survives in OT against a Hunter team that never gave up. Trailing 38-22 at the half , Hunter came out with intensity, they climbed all the way back on a 14-3 run to close it to 41-36. New Paltz starters looked a little tired, no doubt from the battle the night before. Their shots were coming up short and on the defensive side they just seemed a tad slower. Hunter led by Kareem McDonald with 22 points and Casey Meyers14 led Hunter to take an 51-46 lead. Outscoring New Paltz 29-8. New Paltz did have a little fight left in them and tied the score at 64. Hunter had the last shot in regulation but New Paltz forced a tough shot and into overtime they went. New Paltz hit 8-10 foul shots in the added stanza and were led by Rylan Blondo with 17 points, 11 rebounds and 4 assists. AJ Knight and Kobe Bogart Bogart chipped in with 11 points. Showing what a difference a day makes, New Paltz shot 3-17 from 3 on open looks for a dismal 17%. The night before with fresh legs they shot 8-19 for a 42% clip.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 16, 2023, 12:42:14 AM
Congratulations to the Cortland Red Dragons football team on winning the Stag Bowl and the  Division III National Championship 38-37 over North Central College.

 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on December 16, 2023, 12:15:35 PM
The SUNYAC board has not been the same without Magicman's predictions!
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on December 16, 2023, 08:29:50 PM
Cortland four game win string clipped 83-79 Saturday by visiting Utica. RDragons D. Linehan lands 26 pts -- nearly all in the second half on 9x14fg, 8x13 3s, 5reb, 3asst, and 24pts from A. Coston on 8x10fg along with K. Arcuri 11 pts, 6reb but outscored 23-3 by UC bench. Corts take early 10 point lead. Hold their last advantage at 33-32 ....then don't score the first half's final 4:23. Utica up 41-33 at the break and forge largest lead of 46-33. Dragons within three in the closing minutes. CSt 30x61fg, 12x32 3s; UC 31x62fg, 6x12 3s. D. Call 19pts, 10rebs; H. Foley 15 pts; J. Brantley 15pts; L. Bourgault 12pts; L. Teague 11pts for Uticans.
    Cortland 4-3, Utica 6-2
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: magicman on December 21, 2023, 06:26:42 AM
Quote from: stlawus on December 16, 2023, 12:15:35 PM
The SUNYAC board has not been the same without Magicman's predictions!

Thank you for the kind words. I thought maybe you would step in and take my place. You are certainly on top of the D3 hoops scene in the East region. 8-)

Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 24, 2024, 05:52:05 PM
New Paltz upsets Oswego 85-80 in Saturday conference tourney title game at OSt. Hawks get automatic NCAA tourney slot and will join Oswego whose regular season unbeaten play takes Lakers to SUNYAC playoff top seed. NP second seed and thumps Oneonta in Friday semi while Oswego needs second half push to get past pesky Cortland and bid for three-peat crown.
  Oswego up 45-41 at half over NP and 60-46 at 14:45 of second half. K. Bogart two FTs provide 69-68 NP lead at 5:52. Hawks stretch to 76-68 at 2:59 and 79-72 at :52. Lakers within 81-80 as J. Sparks disdains 3-shot for layup at :23. A.J. Knight lands two NP free throws at :11 for 83-80 lead. Sparks misses desparation three and Hawks get closing layup for final.
  Bogart 29 pts, 10x18fg, 2x4 3s, 7reb, 2asst, 2stl, 35'. Sparks 22pts, 9x21fg. NP 31x57fg, 17x22ft; OSt 31x71fg, 9x12ft
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Post by: jdex on February 28, 2024, 12:01:24 PM
Cortland lands sophomores Kendall Arcuri and Aaron Coston on All-SUNYAC first team headed by Player of the Year Jeremiah Sparks of Oswego.

First Team:
Kendall Arcuri, Cort so
Aaron Coston, Cort so
A.J. Knight, NP jr
Xavier Hill, One jr
Jeremiah Sparks, Osw sr

Second Team:
Cole Kattan, Gen sr
Elijah Castillo, One so
Cartier Bowman, Osw sr
Kevin Tabb, Platt jr

Third Team:
Tony Arnold, Bkp jr
Coquan Wester, Bkp fr
Ryan Blondo, NP gr
Jamel Achille, Osw gr
Curtis Huestis, Pot sr

'Tom Spanbauer Defensive POY Award' to Danny Ashley (Bkp).
Rookie of the Year to Caquan Wester (Bkp)
Coaching staff of the Year to Oswego

    NCAA tourney first/second round games Friday/Saturday have conference tourney champ New Paltz (20-7) at John Carroll OH (25-2) and joined by Calvin MI (22-4) vs. Elmhurst ILL (22-5)
    Conference regular season champ Oswego (25-2) hosts Babson MA (15-13) and joined by DeSales PA (24-3) vs. Williams (21-6).




Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on March 05, 2024, 02:50:03 PM
Easy for me to say now but I had a feeling Oswego wouldn't get past the first weekend. Despite their record they didn't look like the every day buzz saw they were last year. Most of that can probably be attributed to having that glacier sized target on their backs after their incredible run last season. Williams is a team that matched up against them as well as any top team in the field with their stifling defense and penchant for making clutch shots. Oswego almost out dueled them in that regard.  Either way, that's a disappointing end to their season especially since they started 4 fifth year players and brought a 6th year off the bench.

They will lose a ton of scoring, rebounding and experience. Their bench is better than a lot of teams and Leone recruits well but I would not be shocked to see them take a step back on the national stage next year. Looking at the rest of the SUNYAC I don't foresee them taking a step back in league play, especially since New Paltz loses several key 5th years as well. I imagine Oswego and Brockport will battle it out as usual but with Morrisville now added to the mix they could certainly have something to say.


edit: of course, forgot that Brockport moved conferences.  Remembered the Morrsiville move right but not the Port
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on April 13, 2024, 10:50:25 AM
Any word if Bowman is coming back? It looks like he could play another year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on April 13, 2024, 12:20:38 PM
Not sure how he could play another year.  This was his 5th year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on April 13, 2024, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: stlawus on April 13, 2024, 12:20:38 PMNot sure how he could play another year.  This was his 5th year.

Oswego doesn't have his freshman year listed on his bio on their site for some reason, but I think you're right.  He played three years at St. Rose and two at Oswego.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Dragons4Ever on May 13, 2024, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: stlawus on March 05, 2024, 02:50:03 PMEasy for me to say now but I had a feeling Oswego wouldn't get past the first weekend. Despite their record they didn't look like the every day buzz saw they were last year. Most of that can probably be attributed to having that glacier sized target on their backs after their incredible run last season. Williams is a team that matched up against them as well as any top team in the field with their stifling defense and penchant for making clutch shots. Oswego almost out dueled them in that regard.  Either way, that's a disappointing end to their season especially since they started 4 fifth year players and brought a 6th year off the bench.

They will lose a ton of scoring, rebounding and experience. Their bench is better than a lot of teams and Leone recruits well but I would not be shocked to see them take a step back on the national stage next year. Looking at the rest of the SUNYAC I don't foresee them taking a step back in league play, especially since New Paltz loses several key 5th years as well. I imagine Oswego and Brockport will battle it out as usual but with Morrisville now added to the mix they could certainly have something to say.


edit: of course, forgot that Brockport moved conferences.  Remembered the Morrsiville move right but not the Port
New to the board, proud Cortland Alumn!I would not count out the Cortland Red Dragons to compete for the chance to win the SUNYAC just yet! They have 2 1st team guys returning in 6'4 guard/forward Kendall Arucri & 6'7 forward Aaron Coston next year along side senior pg Jaylen Warmack who led the SUNYAC in assists. It sucks to have both Brockport & Geneseo leave the league but I also believe Morrisville will be able to compete right away if they can retain majority of their roster. We all know Oswego will reload and Keith has done an incredible job at New Paltz so they will be in the mix. If Kevin Tabb returns to Plattsburgh I think they will also be competitive. All of this makes for an interesting 2024-2025 season, is it November yet? hahaha
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: mhm0417 on November 02, 2024, 11:38:45 AM
Preseason favorites in SUNYAC are obviously Oswego again.  Their new additions are really solid.  Newcomer Morrisville I'm sure will be very competitive. Plattsburgh and looks good, as does Cortland.

Seems like a very unbalanced conference with the bottom teams very bad.  Canton is new this year and will struggle.  Potsdam has arguably the weakest roster they've had in years, with an average team height of about 6'2". Fredonia is weak as well, although building.
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Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 07, 2024, 08:40:42 PM
Season tipoff for seven conference teams comes Friday when five have Fri/Sat tourney dates:
  Cortland vs. RPI before Potsdam faces host Nazareth
  Buffalo St. at Hilbert (Franciscan vs. Lycoming)
  Oswego vs. Muhlenbeg in Rochester where host plays Muskingum OH
  And new SUNYAC affiliate Canton vs. no longer SUNYAC member Brockport at Cleveland OH's Case Western Reserve which meets Penn St.-Altoona

Also Friday:
  Fredonia at U. Buffalo
  Plattsburgh home vs. Skidmore

And the remaining three conference teams debut:
  New Paltz at John Jay and Oneonta at Hartwick on Wednesday. New SUNYAC member Morrisville at Houghton on Thursday   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: mhm0417 on November 08, 2024, 12:30:42 PM
Going to be many blowouts in conference play this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 08, 2024, 09:10:08 PM
Cortland and Potsdam both bow in tight Nazareth tourney first round Friday tussles, RDragons by 55-49 count to RPI before Pdam takes 82-73 tumble to Nazareth. All four teams in season openers.
    Cortland and RPI in defensive struggle but more like some ragged offense, moreso on RDragons' part. Corts come from 10 back to within 31-24 at half and pull even at 46 on A. Coston FTs at 3:17. D. Matchett FTs at 2:06 send RPI up for good. Matchett 12 pts -- all in the second half, pace Engineers. Returning All-SUNYAC pair of K. Arcuri (5x9fg, 3x6 3s, 6reb) and Coston net 14 apiece for Cortland. Arcuri scores first eight Dragon points, but sits final 13 minutes of first half with two fouls. Newcomer J. Davis with 10pts, 7reb for Corts who go 5x7 to RPI 13x24 free throwing.
    Potsdam makes second half surge to rally from 44-32 halftime deficit. N. Cortez drains a bucket with 11:49 left for 49-48 Bear lead. And with four minutes to play Pdam's W. deFreitas deuce forges 67-65 edge. Bears down just 76-73 at 1:11 on another Defreitas hoop. He pours in 24 pts(8x17fg, 3x9 3s, 5x6ft) and M. Sylla 19pts (7x15fg, 4x9 3s).
    Cortland, Potsdam in Saturday consi.

Oswego outscores Muhlenberg 41-21 in the second half for 79-65 Friday win in Rochester tourney start. D. Judd, 6-6 frosh, has 15pts in 21' for Lakers whose soph S. Bradley has 16pts in 27'. Face UR/Muskingum OH winner on Saturday.

Buffalo St. nipped 71-69 at the buzzer by tourney host Hilbert. Steal at 0:03 by N. Moore leads to Q. Briggs deciding hoop. N. Severson 19 pts (6x7 3s) top Bengal scorers, Hilbert's E. Shaheem with 28(9x18fg)

New SUNYACer Canton flattened 98-70 by former SUNYACer Brockport in Cleveland OH where host Case Western Reserve belts Penn St. Altoona 99-72. Consi and final Saturday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 09, 2024, 03:52:20 PM
Cortland rolls over Potsdam 94-83 in Saturday Nazareth tourney consi. RDragons shoot (10x19 3s) to 52-35 intermission lead which grows to 21 with 12:42 left. Still in 19 pt command at 5:08. Bears shave to 9 at 2:35 on M. Sylla goal. Pacing Corts are K. Arcuri 23pts (7x14, 3x8 3s, 6x7ft, 10reb); J. Davis 16reb in 25'; J. Warmack 17pts; A Coston 16pts, 7reb; K. Wilson 11pt (3x6 3s) in initial appearance; G. Beaubrun 10pt. Net 15x38 3s and with 51-35 board gap. For Pdam, Sylla 19pts; W. deFreitas 18pt (8x16fg); N. Cortez 16pt; K. Parker 14pt.
  Teams meet again Dec. 6 in C-land to open league activity
  RPI captures Nazareth tourney crown 60-54, climbing out of 26-21 halftime hole

Oswego downs Muskingum OH 79-67 to capture Rochester tourney title at Palestra. MVP A. Anderson with 17pts (7x13fg, 5asst) and all-tourney S. Bradley 14pts (5x8, 3x5 3s), X. Allen 13pts (4x8fg). Lakers 20x24ft to Muskies 7x14, and 41-24reb advantage. Muskingum reaches final shading Rochester 79-76. UR claims coni over Muhlenberg 82-64.

Buffalo St. 69-63 consi winner over Lycoming in Hilbert tourney. B. Williams 17pts (6x11fg) for Bengals. Hilbert bows 80-75 in final to Franciscan OH.

Canton 93-83 victim of Penn St. Altoona in Cleveland OH Case Western Reserve third place contest. Canton comes from 19 down to take 49-48 halftime lead but falters later. B. Streb in defeat tallies 28 (13x15ft, 7reb). Championship tilt sees Brockport edged 101-99 by CWR in double OT.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on November 13, 2024, 12:31:47 PM
Unfortunate that conference does have to meet up in a noncon matchup. They could've just swapped 1st night's opponents to avoid that.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 13, 2024, 09:49:32 PM
Ithaca outpoints Cortland 65-58 at IC in ragged Wednesday contest. Bombers erase 34-29 deficit and basically outhustle RDragons who shoot just 33 percent from the field and commit 20 turnovers in fast but loosely played matchup. Final score largest lead of the game. CSt last lead at 47-46 with nine minutes left. IC's L. Wendell with 21pts (6x12fg, 2x5 3, 7x10ft, 6reb, 3stl)in 34'; C. Leysath 16pts (8x12fg), 13 reb in 33'. For CSt J. Davis 12pts(6x11fg, 15reb; K. Arcuri 10pts (3x13fg); J. Warmack 10pts, 7assts. Corts 1-2, IC 2-1

Oswego beaten 45-44 by St. Lawrence
Oneonta whips Hartwick 100-87
Fredonia toppled by Hilbert 89-84
Canton loses 53-44 to Clarkson on Tuesday
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 13, 2024, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: jdex on November 13, 2024, 09:49:32 PMIthaca outpoints Cortland 65-58 at IC in ragged Wednesday contest. Bombers erase 34-29 deficit and basically outhustle RDragons who shoot just 33 percent from the field and commit 20 turnovers in fast but loosely played matchup. Final score largest lead of the game. CSt last lead at 47-46 with nine minutes left. IC's L. Wendell with 21pts (6x12fg, 2x5 3, 7x10ft, 6reb, 3stl)in 34'; C. Leysath 16pts (8x12fg), 13 reb in 33'. For CSt J. Davis 12pts(6x11fg, 15reb; K. Arcuri 10pts (3x13fg); J. Warmack 10pts, 7assts. Corts 1-2, IC 2-1

Oswego beaten 45-44 by St. Lawrence
Oneonta whips Hartwick 100-87
Fredonia toppled by Hilbert 89-84
Canton loses 53-44 to Clarkson on Tuesday

Cortland has a great player in Joel Davis.  North Country kid who was the best player in the area his senior year, and looks like he's developed quite a bit already. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on November 14, 2024, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 13, 2024, 12:31:47 PMUnfortunate that conference does have to meet up in a noncon matchup. They could've just swapped 1st night's opponents to avoid that.
That would have made good sense, esp considering the hosts lost the "championship" game. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 17, 2024, 12:58:06 PM
Oneonta wins its tourney Sunday with uphill 86-81 trimming of Westfield St. MA. Intermission has RDragons down 44-35. Finally in 58-58 knot with 8:32 to go. Nip and tuck in stretch run. OSt 35x42ft does the job. L. Zyeir 24pts (7x11fg, 10x12ft, 12reb, 30'), X. Hill 21pts (6x10fg, 9x12ft).
   In Saturday first round Oneonta routs Elmira 80-51 Saturday first round. RDragon dozen with points, Zyeir 14 (7x9fg, 21'), Hill 10 (4x7fg, 19'). Westfield St. turns back Miss. U for Women 83-70.

Morrisville captures its Mustang tourney by 71-67 Sunday tally over Manhattanvlle. Hosts trail 27-26 at half. Y. Fils-Aime 19 pts, 12 reb; J. Moorehead 19 pts, 4x8 3s.
   First round has Mustangs crushing Vermont Lyndon 91-50 in Mustangs....41-21 at half. J. Works 18pts (7x13fg, 20'). M'ville 15 score, 34x67fg. Manhattanville defeats Syracuse ESF Mighty Oaks 88-60.

Plattsburgh nosed at Norwich VT 70-64. Cards by 37-36. Hosts 25x31ft. Burgh's K. Welch off bench for 23pts (7x13fg, 2x3 3s, 7x8ft, 11reb, 3assts, 2stls, 30').

Fredonia edged at Grove City PA 74-70 after leading by 15 in taking 37-30 half lead. Tied at 70 with 0:51 left; GC by two at 0:28. BDevil B. Kulakowski 20pts in 34', M. Garza 16 (4x5 3s) in 32'.

Potsdam drops 87-59 home issue to Utica as UC handsomely expands 36-27 half margin. Winning Pioneers 31x55fg including 21x27fg from starters. Bears M. Sylla 19pts (8x17 fg, 6reb, 5pf, 31'), N. Cortez 17pts (7x12fg, 28')
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 18, 2024, 09:26:59 PM
Totally outplayed for a half, Cortland may have come of age in the second period of Monday night's 67-62 loss to Rochester in RDragons home opener. UR pulled away into 44-27 command through 20 minutes by which time 10 Yellowjackets score. Cortland later pulls momentum switcheroo. J. Davis provides major spark and G. Armbrewster flips home two treys making it 59-58 at 3 minutes. A. Coston two free throws at 2:25 give Dragons 60-59 lead. UR's N. Sock immediately lands straight-on triple and at 0:31 L. Jagodzinski makes fallaway baseline bucket. Coston bucket at 0:15 cuts UR lead to 64-62 and guests' FTs close it out.
    Coston with 23pts (9x14fg, 2x5 3s, 3x3ft, 11reb, 3blk, 35'); Davis 9pts, 9reb. UR's Jagodzinski 17pts (7x14, 9reb); Sock 11pts (3x6 3s, 8reb); C. Oprea 10pts; E. McEachern 6assts.
    Corts 1-3 and idle till Dec. 6 home conference game vs. Potsdam. UR 3-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on November 19, 2024, 08:10:28 PM
Oswego thwarts former conference foe Brockport 78-72 Tuesday at Bport. Lakers back on track after stunning 45-44 loss to St. Lawrence six days earlier. X. Allen leads the way past GEagles with 24pts (10x17fg, 4x7 3s) in 23'. S. Bradley 13pts, Geneseo transfer K. Cole 12pts, A. Foster 10pts. A. Anderson with seven of OSt 21 assists, plus five steals. Lakers hike 35-29 halftime lead to 11. Port within 2 at 5:39 but Allen trey comes seconds later. Lakers 10 up at 3:15.
  Oswego 3-1, Bport 1-4

Plattsburgh tumbles 66-56 at home to St. Lawrence. Scant second half lead for Cards beyond 28-27 halftime deficit. Late Larries runs build hefty differences ...62-48 at one stage. K. Tabb with 15 Pburgh points (4x12fg, 6x6ft, 26').
    Pburgh 1-2, SL 2-1
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on November 20, 2024, 11:35:03 PM
Good effort from Oneonta tonight against Williams.  Down 1 in the last minute and got the short end of the stick on an out of bounds call. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: nescac1 on November 21, 2024, 11:36:21 AM
The out of bounds call that stlawus refers to was the correct one (the initial ref who had a bad angle got it wrong, it was clearly off Oneonta).  Overall, while I'm biased, I'd say the reffing helped Oneonta in this one.  They are a hard team to ref as they constantly drive hard into the teeth of the defense but yesterday they were generating free throws on a lot of those drives when Williams defenders seemed fairly well positioned. Certainly a team strength as they have made more than twice as many free throws as their opponents this season (helps that they convert FTAs at a very high rate as well).  There were also some cryptic non-calls on what sure seemed like travels by Oneonta.   

Xavier Hill is an extremely difficult player to guard inside, he's incredibly strong and relentless down low with great footwork and a soft touch, he's not averaging 24-11 by accident - the kind of stocky low post player you don't see much anymore, but Williams did a good job of swarming and harassing him into a 7-19 shooting night.  Another guy who is hard to ref as he both dishes out and receives a lot of punishment inside.   

Oneonta's weakness is definitely outside shooting, they seemed to brick a lot of jumpers today which allowed the defense to collapse on the interior. They need to guard the three point line better to help compensate; the Ephs has a lot of open looks and went 7-12 despite not being (I expect) a very strong outside shooting team this season. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on January 11, 2025, 11:54:50 PM
I thought Oswego would be down this year but not by much, yet they just lost 2 consecutive SUNYAC games for the first time in several years.  Thought Anderson might have still been hurt but he showed up in both box scores.   If Oswego is losing to Morrisville and Cortland the league is completely wide open.  Cortland, New Paltz, Oneonta, Oswego and potentially Morrsiville could all win the league at this rate.  You can find several comments from me last year saying last season was the time for Oswego to put it all together with it being the last year of their dominant era's core.  They bowed out in the first round and then had to replace a string of 5th years which they are feeling this season.  They brought in a couple grad students but it's just not the same when you had a group of players play with each other over the course of 5 years.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: mhm0417 on January 12, 2025, 10:15:21 AM
Agreed.  It's wide open this year.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 14, 2025, 08:31:42 PM
Cortland continues winning ways with 78-59 Tuesday romp at Buffalo St. where I. Austin torrid hand ignites RDragons to fourth straight conquest. Austin lands 18 points on six 3-pointers during Cortland 21-7 breakout over the first eight minutes. Finishes 21 point night with what else -- a trey in closing moments of 45-25 opening half. Jr. Austin winds up 7x13fg,  7x11 3s in 31' stint.
  Soph J. Davis scores 20 (8x15fg, 4x7 3s), adds 10rebs, 4assts; K. Arcuri 10pts; A. Coston 7pts, 7rebs in hiking league leading record to 5-1, 6-7 overall. Buff St. 2-4, 4-9. Coming off big win over Oswego, resurgent Dragon run parallels returns of Davis and Coston from separate absences.
  Just how far Cortland goes could be determined by upcoming trips to New Paltz (Fri) and Oneonta (Sat).

   New Paltz (4-1, 8-4) given huge scare at Canton. Hawks survive 76-66, shaking free of 65-65 tie at 2:01. NP by 38-32 at half. Tight affair nearly entire final period. Roos 0-5, 0-12

   Plattsburgh (2-3, 5-7) over host Potsdam (2-3, 2-9) by 86-69.
   Morrisville (3-2, 7-5) at Fredonia ppd by travel; Oswego and Oneonta idle
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on January 15, 2025, 01:38:52 AM
I mentioned it in the soccer thread a few months ago but the Canton athletic department is going to have to figure out something quick. Men's hoops are now 0-12 overall through the first two months as a member of the SUNYAC. Even the women's team who had a solid team on paper are underperforming. Canton's vastly improved academic profile over the last several years should allow them to be competitive among SUNYAC peers, but someone is going to have to figure out a solution fast. They've recruited some solid players in years past especially in their NAIA days so I think it's posssible for them to adjust, I just don't know if they will.  Maybe Buff State and Fredonia's recent history might give them a bit of grace but even those teams have gotten a bit better. It's likely going to be the same for spring sports. As an example, though SLU is a top 5/10 lacrosse team they scrimmaged Canton this past fall to the tune of 29-5 and played mostly underclassmen and depth players. The SUNYAC is a pretty good lacrosse league as well, especially with Cortland and Geneseo. Some incredibly talented baseball teams aside from Cortland who are in their own league talent wise.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 17, 2025, 09:59:23 PM
As expected, Cortland and New Paltz with quite the Friday downstate skirmish for first place. NP Hawks prevail 82-76 in top-notch contest. Paltz scores five in double figures and shoots 59% from the field in the second half to outshine RDragon 54 percent effort for the game.
    Corts out to 37-34 halftime edge despite 5x12 free throwing. Hawks put together middle of the second half run for 72-62 lead at 6:33. Dragons within 72-68 at 3:50. A J Knight strikes for three. Cortland back to 75-72 at 1:21 via A. Coston FTs but dashed by S. St.Lucia three. J. Davis trey at 0:12 gets Corts to 78-76. Knight FTs finish Hawks win. Guests draw two crucial second half technicals)
    Knight with 18pts (9x12fts); D. Smith 15pts, 8reb; S. St.Lucia 12pts, 6reb; I. Rivera 11pts; E. St.Lucia 10pts for NP. Dragons Davis nets 25pts (10x16fg, 3x4 3s, 10reb; K. Arcuri 18pts (7x14fg); Coston 11pts (3x4fg, 8reb)
    Cortland (5-2, 6-8) at Oneonta (3-3, 8-5) on Saturday. NP (5-1, 9-4) and greets Morrisville (4-2, 8-5).

    Morrisville tops Oneonta 90-85. X. Hill with 25pts, 11reb for OSt.
    Oswego over Potsdam 71-65
    Plattsburgh stops Canton 79-72
    Fredonia bests Buff St. 83-71
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 18, 2025, 07:41:38 PM
Cortland salvages road split with Saturday 76-66 win at Oneonta. Final margin about as big as it gets in game's entirety. RDragons manage 38-36 intermission edge and hold minimal leads throughout the final period. Fire at 50 percent from the floor for second straight fray. K. Arcuri with 26pts (10x18fg, 2x6 3s, 8reb); I. Austin strong finish for 17pts (5x9fg, 3x6s); A. Coston 14pts (6x11fg, 5reb, 3asst) before exiting with injury with 4' to go; J. Davis 12pts (11reb, 4assts, 5blk) for season's sixth double double. X. Hill 13pts, 8reb; E. Castillo 12pts (6x10fg); D. Knox 12pts (5x10fg) for OSt RDragon
  Corts 6-2, 7-8; Oneonta 3-4, 8-6

New Paltz keeps hold of first place with 68-67 escape of visiting Morrisville. M's in front 33-27 at midway point. Hawks tie at 36 on AJ Knight hoop at 17:44. No more than three points separate the pair until Knight FT at 0:03 makes it 68-64. M'ville with trey at final horn.
  NP 6-1, 10-4; Mville 4-3, 8-6

Plattsburgh at home stuns Oswego 87-84. Ahead 51-30 at half, Cards withstands 19 turnovers and furious Lakers final push that comes within 85-84 on B. Reyes FTs at 0:41. Oswego misses go-ahead attempt at 0:16 and six seconds later F. Infante bucket off K. Tabb rebound hikes lead to three. OSt turnover at 0:03. Burgh FG rate at 59 percent, 9x18 3s, 24x33 FTs. N. Cortez nets 21pts. Off the bench Lakers Reyes 21pts, X. Allen 20.
  Pburgh 4-3, 7-7. OSt 4-3, 8-6

Canton halts winless skein in 86-71 beating of Potsdam. Roos had lost 13 in a row. Connect at 57 percent from the field as K. Goode Jr. 20pts heads entire starting five in double figures. Bear N. Cortez 23pts.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 22, 2025, 12:44:53 PM
First-year conference member Canton makes presence known Tuesday by kayoing first place New Paltz 98-91 in north country shootout. Twas Kangaroos second win of the campaign -- both within four days. Now 2-6, 2-13, Canton pours in FGs at 59 percent clip and 3s at 47 percent (7x15). Six Roos score double digits -- E. Larson 19pts (10reb) in 27', K. Goode Jr. 18pts, B. Streb 17pts, C. Nastasi 14pts (all in the first half), N. Cohen 13pts (4assts), M. Smith 11pts.
   Hosts stretch 49-47 halftime lead to 11 starting final period. NP recovers to forge 69-68 lead. Late 12-2 Canton run produces 86-77 advantage and Roos go up by 11. Game has 10 ties, 19 lead changes. AJ Knight 27 pts (8x18fg, 6x11 3s, 5pf, 33'), D. Smith 22pts (10x16fg, 10reb, 5pf, 35'), S. St.Lucia 16pts pace Hawks (11x34 3s).
   NP 6-2, 2-13.

Oswego keeps leaders in sight with 67-59 putdown of Oneonta. Lakers up 32-25 midway, fall in five point arrears in the second half but rise by seven at 2:18. Fr D. Judd 27pts (  11x18fg, 1x3 3s, 9reb, 3blk) in the win. RDragons minus X. Hill and led by C. LaClair 14pts, T. Harts 13pts.

Potsdam 83-60 victim of solid Hamilton outfit.

Fredonia at Cortland, Buff St. at Morrisville weathered out. Corts big Friday date at M'ville.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 24, 2025, 09:24:07 PM
Cortland turns in strong defensive-minded Friday 65-55 downing of host Morrisville. RDragons on top nearly the entire way but never by more than the final gap. Half ends 32-26. Mville within two in latter stages. Team-oriented CSt performance. A. Coston 14 pts, 5reb, 4assts; K. Arcuri 14pts; orchestrator G. Armbrewster 11pts(5x8fg, 1x2 3s); J. Davis 14rebs, 8pts, 5assts; Austin 9pts. Hold 46-38 board margin, assist 16 of 24 buckets. Mville's K. Sanders 23pts (10x20fg, 1x3 3s, 8reb, 3assts, 3stls).
  Corts 7-2 atop conference, 8-8. Mville 4-4, 8-7. Both idle Saturday

New Paltz stays atop league with Cortland by toppling homestanding Potsdam 80-70.
Hawks require 46-31 second half outbust to overcomer Pdam 39-34 lead thru opening 20 minutes. Bears early in final period push margin to eight. NP S. St.Lucia 3-pt pair before M. Cummings hoop provides 57-56 reversal at 11:17. Never relinquish lead. S. St.Lucia 18pts (6x9fg, 5x6 3s), AJ Knight 19pt. s (8x12fg), D. Smith 14rebs. NP 52fg percent, 11x26 3s. Pdam's M. Sylla 24pts (6x15fg, 4x6 3s, 8x10ft, 8reb, 3assts).
  NP 7-2, 11-5; Pdam 2-6, 2-13

Plattsburgh garners fourth straight win, handing Oneonta fifth straight fall 86-72. Cards extend 36-25 halftime lead with 50 pt. second half. K. Welch 29pts (9x14fg, 9x12ft, 7reb, 30') in victory. K. Long sparks OSt with 21pts (9x15fg, 3x7 3s) in 22 minutes off the bench. No Dragon X. Hill again.
  Pburgh 5-3, 8-7 and home Saturday vs. New Paltz. Oneonta 3-6, 8-8

Canton remains on the high winning wire with 75-61 home licking of Fredonia for Roos' third straight triumph while halting Devils three game win skein. Freds one down at half but up by eight in second frame. Canton knots it at 52 at 8:44, then takes lead for good and builds 19 pt. command. N. Cohen 16pts (6x8fg, 2x3 3s, 9rebs, 22'), M. Smith 15pts in 18'.
  Canton 3-6, 3-13; Freds 3-4, 5-9.

Oswego blasts traveling Buff St. 79-56. Lakers breeze behind D. Judd 16pts (5x9fg, 6reb, 28') and S. Bradley 14pts (5x8fg, 28')
  Oswego 6-3, 10-6. BS 2-6, 4-11
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on January 24, 2025, 09:25:49 PM
Good for Canton to get their 2nd win in a row.  A tremendous road win against New Paltz followed up with a win against Fredonia.  Happy to see the Roos pull it together. 

I'm pretty surprised by Plattsburgh beating Oneonta with ease.  This is a really fun league to watch this year. Most parity in a very a long time.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 25, 2025, 10:15:18 PM
Plattsburgh at home knocks New Paltz from first place perch. Cards' fifth straight win  stings Hawks 83-78 in Saturday matinee. Closing first half run gets 36-33 halftime edge and early second half run builds 47-35 lead that goes to 62-49 at the 10.5' mark. NP slices deficit to five, then trails by 11. At 1:13 AJ Knight trey pulls Hawks to 78-76. Burgh responds with K. Welch FTs and again following L. Seyoum brings NP to 80-78. Welch 19pts, F. Infante 18pts. NP Knight with 17pts, D. Smith 17pts, 11reb. Normal producer S. St.Lucia 0pts (0x6fg, 6assts, 4pf, 27'. Hawks 23x25ft, 21Tovers.
  Pburgh 6-3, 10-7. NP 7-3, 11-6

Oswego over Fredonia 86-72.
Buff St. trips Canton 66-62
Oneonta ends skid with 67-65 shading of Potsdam.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 28, 2025, 09:12:53 PM
Cortland dispatches Buffalo St. 71-53 at home to keep its hold on first place. Opens up 36-19 halftime lead and adds throughout the final period. Registers 18 assists in 26 field goals. A. Coston 20pts (6x12fg, 3x6 3s, 7reb, 5assts, 32'); I. Auston 19 pts (7x12fg, 4x9 3s). Checks BS to 34 percent FG. Z. Johnson 15pts (6x12fg, 3x7 3s) for Bengals whose M. McCurty snares 10reb.
  Corts 8-2, 9-8, at Plattsburgh and Potsdam Fri/Sat. Buffs 3-7, 5-12
.
New Paltz comfortably takes down guest Oswego 73-52 in duel for second place. Hawks outshoot Lakers from the floor by 54% to 39%. NP by 35-19 at intermission. I. Rivera 17 pts (8x10fg) in victory. OSt paced by D. Judd, G. McLane 14pts apiece.
  NPaltz 8-3, 12-6. Oswego 7-4, 11-7

Potsdam halts Plattsburgh five game win streak with wild 77-75 win at the wire. N. Cortez fires in his last of 27 points and sixth trey at the buzzer. Late first half spurt yields Pburgh 45-40 lead at half. Bears up by as many as 11 in the second frame -- building 66-55 margin at 8:26 on P. Kelly FT. Cards finally take the lead 72-71 on K. Welch hoop. Pdam regains the lead but Burgh's E. Ikechukwu layup at 0:04 provides 75-74 lead setting up Cortez heroics! Cortez 8x16fg, 6x7 3s in 37'; Kelly 20pts (6x11fg, 4x6 3s, 36'). Bears 12x24 3s. Pburgh's Welch 14pts, Ikechukwu 13pts, K. Tabb 13pts.
   Pdam 3-7, 3-14. Pburgh 6-4, 9-8

Morrisville clips Fredonia 81-80 despite nearly blowing 81-65 lead with 3:34 left. Freds K. Roberts Jr. plants three at 0:52 for what becomes the final tote. Devils have trey blocked at 0:05 and their last second attempt misfires. Mville on top 40-30 at half and gets 29pts from J. Moorehead (11x19fg, 7x12 3s, 28'). Freds B. Kulakowski 16pts, L. Lovelace 15 pts.
  Mville 5-4, 9-7. Freds 3-6, 5-11

Oneonta over Canton 77-60. No sweat for RDragons. K. Long 23pts (5x9fg, 3x6 3s, 10x10ft) and leads 27x28 FT performance. Roos' B. Streb 19pts, 7reb; E. Larson 11reb.
   Oneonta 5-6, 10-8. Canton 3-8, 3-15
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: stlawus on January 28, 2025, 09:19:24 PM
Wow, buzzer beater in Plattsburgh as Potsdam heaves up a 3 from just over halfcourt that banks in just seconds after Plattsburgh scored the go ahead layup. 
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: thebear on January 28, 2025, 09:23:49 PM
Haven't posted in a while.  Hopefully the video will be up.  Potsdam wins it's 3rd game of the year at Plattsburgh on a 35 foot bank shot by Soph G Nick Cortez as time expired.  Plattsburgh had taken the lead with 4 secs left, and Cortez drove the length of the court and took a heave that banked in for the W. Cortez' buzzer beater capped a 27 point outing including 6x7 from long range.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on January 31, 2025, 09:25:09 PM
Plattsburgh digs out of 21 point first half deficit to stun visiting Cortland 70-68 F riday evening. Down 37-16, Cards still in 43-27 halftime hole. Spunky hosts quickly whittle away in the second period and pull even at 53 on S. Vidrini trey with 8:20 left. Corts move ahead by four. K. Welch bucket boosts Pburgh into 62-59 lead at 4:27. Tis back and forth down the stretch till Welch layup gives Cards final lead at 66-65. K. Tabb FTs at 0:13 make it 70-65.
  Cards all over the boards in decisive 51-35 form and sink 46 percent of second steves compared to RDragons 26 percent and dreadful on 3s -- total reversal from first half when Cortland at 46 percent to Burgh's 34 percent. Free throwing also telling ...Cards 14x18, Corts 8x15. Welch 17pts (8x13fg, 5reb), N. Pondexter Jr. 14pts (6x9fg, 6reb), I. Ezike 9reb. A. Coston 24pts (9x19fg, 4x8 3s, 6reb, 2blk) for Dragons; K. Arcuri 17pts (7x20fg, 8reb, 3 stls).
   Pburgh 7-4, 10-8. C-land 8-3, 9-9

New Paltz shoots down Buffalo St. 62-54. Hawks in 35-31 halftime control. Get 14pts (5x6fg, 4x5 3s, 6reb, 4stls) from E. St.Lucia; AJ Knight 12pts. Buffs M. Parkinson 11pts, B. Williams 10pts.
    NP 9-3, 13-6

Potsdam emerges 76-62 winner over Morrisville. Bears fresh off thrilling game vs. Plattsburgh turn back M-boys behind P. Kelly 21pts (7x10fg, 4x6s 3s, 8 reb); M. Sylla 17pts; N. Cortez 15pts (6x12fg)
   Pdam 4-7, 4-14 and home Saturday looking to sweep series from Cortland

Oneonta edges Fredonia 83-79 in OT. RDragons lead 34-32 at half. Regulation ends 70-all. For OSt. K. Long 23pts (8x14fg, 5x9 3s, 4assts); C. LaClair 18pts (7x12fg, 3x5 3s, 10reb); E. Casstillo 16pts (8x10 FTs). Hit 53 percent from the field, 8x15 3s. Freds M. Jenison 17pts (6x10fg, 5x8 3s), B. Kulakowski 14pts (3x6 3s).
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 01, 2025, 06:13:45 PM
Cortland outlasts Potsdam 59-54 in knockdown-dragout Saturday matinee affair in the north country. Weary RDragons led little and five point final their largest lead. A. Coston took G. Beaubrun rebound and pass for head-on 3-pointer for 55-54 lead at 0:37. J. Davis, who had 18pt, 16reb double-double, and Beaubrun cashed 1-and-1s at 0:13 and 0:02. Coston with 21pts (9x14fg, 2x4 3s, 5reb); K. Arcuri 9pts, 7reb. Corts paltry 3x19 3s, 41fg percent, 12x14ft. Bears boast N. Cortez 20pts (7x15fg, 3x4 3s, 5reb); M. Sylla 15pts, 11rebs
  Cortland 9-3, 10-9. Pdam 4-8, 4-15

New Paltz maintains slight first place lead by beating Fredonia 74-60. Hawks by 13 at half and by as many as 22 later. L. Seyoum 21pts (6x13 3s), D. Smith 16pts (8x12fg), S. St. Lucia 13pts, 5assts; AJ Knight 10pts, 5assts, 4stl. NP 19 assists among 28 buckets, 10x24 3s. Devil K. Roberts 11pts, 11rebs.
  NP 10-3, 14-6. Fredonia 3-8, 5-13 with fifth straight loss.

Morrisville gets past host Plattsburgh 86-80. Drops 51 percent from the floor. Mere 38-36 edge at half but never trails thereafter. Host Cards cut final minute 11 pt. deficit to four. K. Sanders 21pts for Mustangs, J. Works 17pts, Y. Fils-Aime 17pts, 10rebs; A. Grainger 6assts. K. Welch 16pts, 5assts for Pburgh, I. Ezike 13pts, 10 rebs.
  Morrisville 6-5, 10-8. Pburgh 7-5, 10-9

Oswego rips Canton 88-57. Over early with Lakers racing to 45-26 halfway margin. Oswego 55-36 rebound superiority and place 13 players in point column. B. Reyes 17pts (5x11 3s) in 18'; D. Judd 10 pts, 8rebs, 4assts; Y. Allen 10 pts. No Laker sees more than 21' of court time. Roos' N. Cohen 15pts, 5rebs, 4stls.
   Oswego 8-4, 12-7. Canton 3-9, 3-16

Oneonta dumps Buffalo St. 60-54.RDragons by 33-26 at half. Buffs within 36-35 at 13:26 but never a second half leader. C. LaClair 14pts (6x11fg) in the win while T. Harts 10pts, 9rebs; E. Castillo 10pts; K. Long 13pts (4x8fg, 6reb, 5 assts). BS M. Parkinson 15pts (7x13fg), O. Dejesus 13pts (5x10fg, 3x6 3s).
  Oneonta 7-6, 12-8 four straight wins. Buffs 3-9, 5-14.
   
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: mhm0417 on February 03, 2025, 08:53:26 AM
Quote from: stlawus on January 15, 2025, 01:38:52 AMI mentioned it in the soccer thread a few months ago but the Canton athletic department is going to have to figure out something quick. Men's hoops are now 0-12 overall through the first two months as a member of the SUNYAC. Even the women's team who had a solid team on paper are underperforming. Canton's vastly improved academic profile over the last several years should allow them to be competitive among SUNYAC peers, but someone is going to have to figure out a solution fast. They've recruited some solid players in years past especially in their NAIA days so I think it's posssible for them to adjust, I just don't know if they will.  Maybe Buff State and Fredonia's recent history might give them a bit of grace but even those teams have gotten a bit better. It's likely going to be the same for spring sports. As an example, though SLU is a top 5/10 lacrosse team they scrimmaged Canton this past fall to the tune of 29-5 and played mostly underclassmen and depth players. The SUNYAC is a pretty good lacrosse league as well, especially with Cortland and Geneseo. Some incredibly talented baseball teams aside from Cortland who are in their own league talent wise.

Canton seems stuck in the cycle of coaching turnover in several sports.  I'm not sure about hockey or lacrosse but in baseball, softball and men's hoops they are constantly looking for new coaches.  That can't be good for a program especially one located in such a remote area.  It's no coincidence that the best men's hoop team in the area also has the longest-tenured coach.

The Canton baseball and softball teams are in the same situation.  There's very little stability.
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 04, 2025, 09:48:52 PM
Cortland's Isaiah Austin 40 pts lead RDragons past Fredonia 90-66 Tuesday at CSt. Hosts move into conference first place tie with idle New Paltz. Austin scintillating out of the gate making his first five 3-points in the opening five minutes. Lands 7x9 treys by intermission when Dragons hold 47-38 upper hand. Makes two more threes starting the final half and finishes 10x17 beyond the arc. In all goes 12x21 FG, 6x6 FTs, 3assts in 34'. First RDragon with 40 since Dave Maggiacomo 42 in 2006-07 at Fredonia. Cortland record is 61 by Dave Bleau in pre-3 1963-64 at St. Lawrence.
   And Cortland SID extraordinaire Fran Elia adds Austin 10 3s match Maggiacomo (10x12) school record.
  Corts make 53 percent of FGs. A. Coston 15pts (5x11fg, 7reb, 7assts, 4stls); K. Arcuri 11pts (5x10fg, 6reb, 4assts); J. Davis 9 pts (4x6fg), 7reb. Feisty Freds keep Dragons in sight till closing minutes. B. Kulakowski 15pts (5x10fg 5reb in 28'); L. Lovelace 11pts, M. Garza 11pts.
  Cortland 10-3, 11-9. Fredonia 3-9, 5-14

Buffalo St. upsets homestanding Morrisville 82-75. Buffs build 43-36 halftime lead and keep Mustangs at arm's lenghth over the closing period. Mville slices gap to four in homestretch but Bengals stand tall. M. Parkinson 19pts (5x11 3s);; N. Severson 18pts (6x9 fg, 4x6 3s); B. Williams 10pts; Z. Johnson 10pts. BS 14x27 3s. Stangs J. Moorhead 20pts(7x12fg, 3x6 3s); A. Grainger 16pts (7x10fg); J. Works 18pts (7x9fg, 4x5 3s; C. Mccullum 11pts. No. K. Sanders for Morrisville.
    BS 4-9, 6-14. Mville 6-6, 10-9
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: Greek Tragedy on February 06, 2025, 04:29:50 PM
SUNY New Paltz    10-3   
Cortland    10-3   
Oswego State    8-4   
Plattsburgh State 7-5   
SUNY Oneonta    7-6   
Morrisville State 6-6   
SUNY Potsdam    4-8   
Buffalo State    4-9   
Fredonia    3-9   
SUNY-Canton    3-9
Title: Re: MBB: State University of New York Athletic Conference
Post by: jdex on February 07, 2025, 09:26:06 PM
Cortland plays listless ball until turning a flashy finish into 65-54 Friday win over scrappy Morrisville at RDragons Corey confines. Takes sole possession of fist place. Corts trail 48-40 with 8:39 to go before suddenly finding some zip that's been their conference calling card. K. Wilson's lone goal -- a trey, puts Dragons ahead 53-52 at 3:30. A. Coston triple at 1:21 makes it 57-52 and the gap grows. Cortland just 6x23 beyond the arc and 43 percent FG. Mustangs, a mere 2x12 free throwing overall, overcome early eight point deficit to lead 30-29 at half.
  For Corts, Coston 18pts (7x10fg, 5reb, 5assts, 2blks); I. Auston 11pts; J. Davis 11pts(7rebs, 4stls); K. Arcuri 9pts. Cortland without backcourt sparkplug G. Armbruster -- and it shows! A. Grainger 14pts (6x8fg, 3assts); K. Sanders 11pts (5x9fg, 7reb); C. Mccullum 10pts.
  Cortland 11-3, 12-9 and home Feb. 14 vs. Oneonta, 15 vs. New Paltz. Morrisville 6-7, 10-10

Plattsburgh sizeably shocks New Paltz 81-57 AT NP, knocking the Hawks from first place perch. Cards soar to 37-25 halftime advantage and never take their foot off the accelerator. Connect at 60 percent from the field (just 2x5 3s, 13x25ft). Woeful Paltz showing -- 33 percent FG (6x30 3s) and no starter more than E. St.Lucia 6pts. K. Welch 18pts (6x8fg, 5reb, 27') for Pburgh; I. Ezike 15pts (6x9fg, 6reb, 25'); K. Tabb 14pts (6x11fg, 19'); F. Infante 13pts (6x11fg, 29'). NP M. Cumings 10pts; T. Amalfitano 12pts.
  Pburgh 8-5, 11-9. New Paltz 10-4, 14-7

Oswego thwarts Fredonia 66-54 on the loser's floor. Freds by 31-30 at half and only in 47-44 straits at 7:38. Lakers widen to 55-45 and close strong. Pair of normally high-stepping Oswegos show the way. X. Allen 21pts (10x17fg, 11reb, 5stls), A. Anderson 16pts (8x11ft). Devil B. Kulakowski nets 17pts (8x16fg, 11rebs).
  Oswego 9-4, 13-7. Fredonia 3-9, 5-14

Oneonta conquers guest Potsdam 78-62. RDragons pour in 46 second half points to deflate Pdam after Bears in one point lead at half. OSt 29x41 at charity stripe, visitors 9x18 and only 35 percent FG. Winning parade sees K. Long 25pts (5x12fg, 3x8 3s, 12x14ft, 4assts); E. Castillo 22pts (7x14fg, 7x8ft); D. Knox 16pts (5x9fg, 6x10ft, 12reb); C. LaClair 13reb. For Potsdam tis M. Sylla 24pts (7x17fg, 3x7 3s, 12reb, 7x8ft, 5pf, 34'); N. Cortez 15pts (6x13fg, 3stls)
  Oneonta 8-6, 13-8. Potsdam 4-9, 4-16

Buffalo State wins second of the week in 71-70 nip of Canton on C. Ani free throw at 0:01. Big Bengals comeback. Look up at 39-27 Canton halftime lead. Reeling Buffs in 16 pt. arrears in final frame. Cut that to five and go point for point over last 10 minutes till square things at 70 on Ani layup at 0:11. Roos
layup attempt at 0:03 fails and Ani fouled. Misses first bid but makes the winner in final second, his seventh point. M. Parkinson 14pts pace BS, B. Cheng 11pts, Z. Johnson 10pts. Canton's E. Larson 31pts (13x21fg, 17reb, 37').
  Buff St. 5-9, 7-14. Canton 3-10, 3-17
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Post by: jdex on February 08, 2025, 09:41:12 PM
New Paltz regains its balance to trip Potsdam 87-62 on Saturday. Hawks 36-30 at intermission. Stretch to 11 point lead with 11:54 left and widen the difference to as many as 26. L. Seyoum 17pts (5x9fg, 4x8 3s). M. Sylla 19pts for the Bears.
  NP 11-4, 15-7. Pdam 4-10, 4-17

Oneonta stops Plattsburgh 82-78. RDragons by seven at half and 16 with 6:55 remaining. Free throws repel closing Cards approach. K. Long 28pts, 6assts for Oneonta.F. Infante 18pts, 9reb, 6assts; K. Tabb 18pts as five Burghers in double figures.
  Oneonta 9-6, 14-8. Pburgh 8-6, 11-10

Oswego 71, Buffalo St. 62. Lakers turn 29-27 halftime edge into 52-35 bulge. Buffs never nearer than 64-57. X. Allen produces 23pts (7x16fg, 8x9ft, 6reb). Bengal B. Williams 16pts.
  OSt 10-4, 14-7. BS 5-10, 7-15

Fredonia 82, Canton 73. Kangaroos fade from 39-30 halftime lead. Freds rack up 52 second half points, finally taking 59-58 lead for keeps on B. Kulakowski hoop at
 9:11. Kulakowski 18pts, 8rebs; T. Fuller 11rebs. For Canton, N. Cohen 22pts, 11rebs, 4assts; K. Goode Jr. 20pts (12x16ft).
   Freds 4-10, 6-15; Canton 3-11, 3-18
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Post by: jdex on February 10, 2025, 02:56:04 PM
Current top four teams assured of conference playoff slots -- Cortland 11-3, New Paltz 11-4, Oswego 10-4, Oneonta 9-6. First and second places draw opening tourney byes, with the former hosting tourney four team finals .... 

Final two playoff posts currently held by Plattsburgh 8-6, Morrisville 6-7. Mville can take big step at Fredonia in Tuesday's lone league outing. Tourney start matches 6 vs. 3, 4 vs. 5.

Current outsiders, Buffalo St. 5-10, Fredonia 4-10, Potsdam 4-10, Canton 3-11.

Interesting schedules for the leading contenders over the final two weeks -- basically weekends. Defending champ Oswego on three game win streak with four home games (Pburg, Pdam, Corts, Mville). Lakers this season 5-0 on Ziel court but road victims to three of closing quartet.
   Nearly all others finish with at least two away games, Oneonta 3of3:
Cortland (Oneonta, NP, at Oswego, at Canton)
New Paltz (at Mville, at Canton, Oneonta)
Oneonta on six game heater (at Corts, at Mville, at NP)
Plattsburgh (at Oswego, at Canton, BS, Fredonia)
Morrisville (at Freds, NP, Oneonta, at Canton, at Oswego)
Buffalo St. (Freds, at Pburgh, at Pdam)
Fredonia (Mville, at BS, at Pdam, at Pburgh)
Potsdam (at Canton, at Oswego, Freds, BS)

And, no, didn't forget Canton ....climaxing at home with Pdam, Pburgh, Mville, Corts

   
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Post by: jdex on February 11, 2025, 10:45:50 PM
Morrisville squares conference mark at 7-7 with Tuesday's 74-71 win at Fredonia. Break free from 31-31 halftime knot to forge 58-47 lead. Devils rally to tie at 64. Mustangs K. Sanders 16pts, 8rebs; A. Grainger 15pts (7x11fg); J. Moorehead 15pts (6x11fg, 3x7 3s). Devils B. Kulakowski and T. Fuller 17pts, 10rebs apiece.
  Mville 7-7, 10-11. Freds 4-11, 6-16
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Post by: jdex on February 14, 2025, 09:16:01 PM
Cortland and New Paltz withstand Friday night challenges to set up Saturday matinee conference lead showdown at CSt.
    Cortland rallies from halftime hole to win 69-61 tug-o-war over Oneonta at CSt's Corey Gym. Host RDragons come out firing. Land first 5 of 7 shots and enjoy 19-9 lead midway through the first half ..then inexplicably forget about captain A. Coston. He rarely sees the ball while other hands turn cold. Oneonta storms to 34-27 halftime lead on K. Long trey at the buzzer. With Coston flexing his inside muscle with seven early second period points, Cortland gets back in touch with visiting Dragons. J. Davis tipin with 4:55 left puts Corts up 57-55. OSt within 63-59 but misses two FTs in the closing minute. K. Wilson two FTs at 0:36 begin CSt pullaway.
    Coston with nine first half points finishes with 25 (10x16fg, 10reb, 4blks, 4assts); K. Arcuri 18pts, 8rebs; Davis 11pts, 10rebs; Wilson 10pts. K. Long 22pts, 15 by half (7x18fg, 6x13 3s); Z. Lawrence 16pts (7x12fg, 9reb);E. Castillo 12pts (8x8ft) head Oneonta.
    Cortland 12-3, 13-9. Oneona 9-7, 14-9

New Paltz holds off host Morrisville 68-64. Cruising 37-24 at half on 50 percent FG accuracy, NP Hawks stiffen late to fend off Mustangs. Mville mere 5x18ft but 39-31 board edge. Hawks 14x20ft. NP AJ Knight 17pts (6x10fg); S. St.Lucia 11pts; A. Krupinski 10pts. Mville's J. Works 13pts (5x7fg, 2x3 3s); K. Sanders 12pts (6x14fg, 5pf, 22'); J. Moorehead 12pts.
    NP 12-4, 16-7. Morrisville 7-8, 10-12

Plattsburgh deals Oswego 84-72 setback in Laker-land. Sharpshooting Cards 50-38 halftime margin and maintain deadeye rate to windup at 30x55fg, 9x18 3s, 18x22ft. K. Tabb 24pts (8x11fg, 4x4 3s, 5assts) top the effort; I. Ezike 16pts; F. Infante 14pts. D. Judd 21pts, 12rebs pace Oswego; B. Reyes 14pts.
    Pburgh 9-6, 12-10. Oswego 10-5, 14-8

Potsdam clips Canton 91-77 in Canton. Bears by 44-32 after 20 minutes. M. Sylla leads five guests in double figures with 25pts (11x17fg, 2x6 3s, 5rebs). Pdam 35x61fg, 8x18 3s, 13x16ft. Canton handful also in double figures led by N. Cohen 15pts (7x10fg, 6reb).
  Potsdam 5-10, 5-17. Canton 3-12, 3-19

Buffalo St. handles Fredonia 70-63. N. Severson 17pts for Bengals, B. Kulakowski 16pts, 13rebs for Devils
  BS 6-10, 8-15. Freds 4-12, 6-17
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Post by: jdex on February 15, 2025, 05:59:39 PM
New Paltz suffocates Cortland in 54-39 style on RDragons floor. Hawks, who snare league top spot over hosts by a half game, never yield the lead and check Corts to 12 second half points --- that's one-two as in 12!!! Dragons, trailing just 30-27 at intermission, start final period shooting 1x12 and are 2x19 with 5:43 to play. Finish at 29.5 percent and under .500 FTs, 18 turnovers. Paltz no FG ball o' fire at 39 percent, but simply stifling defensively.
  S. St.Lucia 17pts (7x14fg, 3x5 3s, 4 stls) shows the way. Lone Paltzster in double figures. For CSt it's K. Arcuri 13 pts; I. Austin 9pts (3x5fg, 2x3 3s, 15').
    NP 13-4, 17-7. Cortland 12-4, 13-10. NP sweeps season series.

Oswego dumps Potsdam 100-69 with blistering 44x72 shooting eyes. Fifteen Lakers in scoring column, five in double figures led by G. McLane 15pts (7x7fg, 1x1 3s, 6reb). M. Sylla 20pts for the Bears.
  Oswego 11-5, 15-8. Pdam 5-11, 5-18

Morrisville sinks Oneonta 80-74 behind K. Sanders 26pts (11x20fg). E. Castillo 25pts (8x15fg, 7x8ft) for OSt.
  Mville 8-8, 11-12. Oneonta 9-8, 14-10

Canton rises past Plattsburgh 93-88. Kangaroos 33x61 FG, 14x18 3s. N. Cohen 23pts (8x16fg, 6x11 3s); K. Goode Jr. 19pts (7x10fg); B. Streb 18pts (6x11fg); T. Sullivan 14pts (5x6fg, 4x4 3s, 15'). Cards F. Infante 18pts (7x13fg); K. Welch 30pts (10-14fg, 1x1 3s, 9x9ft, 19')
  Canton 4-12, 4-19. Pburgh 9-7, 12-11.
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Post by: jdex on February 21, 2025, 01:05:32 PM
Regular campaign winds up this evening and Saturday afternoon with one playoff berth still TBD along with positioning for next week's start of conference postseason action.

   New Paltz at 13-4, Cortland 12-4, Oswego 11-5, Plattsburgh 9-7, and Oneonta 9-8 are assured to move on ....currently in that order BUT maneuvering is likely to occur.
   Morrisville at 8-8 currently holds the sixth and final playoff slot, trying to hold off 6-10 Buffalo St. Both finish on the road, Mville finishes at Canton and Oswego while the Buffs are at Pburgh and Potsdam. BS swept the Mville season series should that be a determining factor.
   Meanwhile New Paltz certainly holds its first place destiny in its hands at home with one remaining game vs. Oneonta. Cortland has tests at Oswego and Canton. Pburgh in addition to hosting Buff St. also is home Saturday vs. Fredonia.
 
   The first place team's court will be the scene of the Final Four (Feb. 28-March 1). Second place also draws a first round bye. Teams three through six (3-6, 4-5) play Tuesday at the lower seed to qualify for the Final Four.
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Post by: jdex on February 21, 2025, 09:29:16 PM
Oswego takes apart Cortland 79-45 Friday night in Oswego where Lakers settle matters in the opening half. Clamping down on the RDragons with fierce man-to-man defensive tactics, Oswego throughout the period forces its guest into rushing shots into paltry 12 percent (3x25) display in 20 minutes. Lakers up 39-14 at half and coast to the finish. Fourteen OSters see at least five minutes of court time -- 12 score. Frosh D. Judd with 14pts (5x11fg, 8rebs, 28'); G. McLane 13pts (6x12fg); X. Allen 10pts, 8rebs. Have seven of 10 steals by halftime. Dragon K. Arcuri 19pts (9x10ft, 7rebs); J. Davis 8 rebs.
    Oswego currently ties Cortland for second place at 12-5 heading into Saturday regular season finales. Should they end tied, Oswego gets No. 2 nod on basis of splitting series with No. 1 New Paltz while CSt bows twice to NP.
    Idle New Paltz, whose Saturday finale is at home vs. Oneonta, clinches top seed by sweeping Cortland series.
    Oswego 12-5, 16-8. Cortland 12-5, 13-11.

Morrisville assures final conference playoff spot defeating Canton 83-81 in overtime behind K. Sanders 33 points (13x25fg, 34'). Sanders makes tying foul shot at 0:09 but misses the second bid. Mustangs capture the rebound and Sanders lands winning jumper at 0:04. Match tied at 36 at half and at 67 thru regulation. K. Goode Jr. 23 pts (8x13fg, 4x5 3s, 7rebs) for Kangaroos.
    Mville 9-8, 13-11. Canton 4-13, 4-20.

Plattsburgh ekes out 78-77 home overtime win over Buffalo St. N. Infante two free throws as time expires the difference. Buffs Z. Johnson triple at 0:07 briefly puts Bengals in 77-76 lead.
  Pburgh 10-7, 13-11. BS 6-11, 8-16

Potsdam pulls out 95-92 home victory over Fredonia. Bears erase 47-40 halftime deficit and get 20 points apiece from M. Sylla and N. Cortez. Freds B. Kulakowski steals scoring show with 35pts (5x10 3s, 12 rebs).
  Potsdam 6-11, 6-18. Fredonia 4-13, 6-18

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Post by: Caz Bombers on February 21, 2025, 11:13:21 PM
First time in SUNYAC history that New Paltz will host the semis and championship in men's basketball. The women have frequently hosted in recent years but that will be at Cortland next weekend.
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Post by: jdex on February 22, 2025, 06:24:21 PM
New Paltz wraps up regular season conference title with 78-68 Saturday spilling of Oneonta, whose Red Dragons fall to the league tourney sixth seed and play at third seed Cortland RDragons in Tuesday first round.
  First round also sends fifth seed Morrisville to fourth seed Plattsburgh. Mville and Oneonta share fifth place in final standings .....Mville taking higher playoff seed by sweeping Oneonta series.
  New Paltz men for the first time host Final Four next Friday/Saturday. Oswego gets second seed first round bye. Lakers and Cortland tie for second place with tie-breaking measures giving the nod to Oswego.

Cortland on Saturday easily stops Canton 67-52 in the north country. Corts roll up 35-17 halftime bulge, reflective of Canton 17 percent shooting from the field. Dragons the previous night at Oswego experience similar first half woes. Cortland's K. Wilson 16pts (5x9fg, 4x7 3s, 19'); J. Davis 11pts, 16rebs. Roos K. Goode Jr. 14pts (9x12ft); E. Larson 12pts (5x10fg, 5rebs).

Oswego sinks Morrisville 77-67. Lakers storm back from 36-32 halftime deficit. X. Allen and D. Judd 16 points apiece in victory, K. Sanders 26pts (11x16fg, 10 rebs) in defeat.

Plattsburgh rises over Fredonia 116-95. Cards tally 50 in the opening period and add to that later. K. Welch 25pts (11x14fg, 9 rebs).

Potsdam dismisses Buffalo St. 72-55. N. Cortez 26pts (11x16fg, 6rebs) for da Bears.

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Post by: jdex on February 25, 2025, 08:54:31 PM
Cortland and Plattsburgh on Tuesday advance to conference Final Four. Friday semis at New Paltz pit Corts vs. Oswego, then NP vs. Pburgh. Final Saturday

Cortland takes down pesky visitor Oneonta 73-55. CSt in charge most of the way, by double figures early when it shoots well from outside the arc. It's 36-29 at the break. Home side gets out quickly in the second half. OSt pulls within nine but never nearer. K. Arcuri 17pts (6x12fg, 2x5 3s, 5reb); A. Coston 14pts (4x8fg, 2x5 3s, 4x4ft, 8reb, 5assts, 3blks); K. Wilson 10pts; J. Davis 9pts, 10rebs. OSt's K. Long 19pts 7x14fg, 3x6 3s); E. Castillo 16pts (7x15fg); C. LaClair 14rebs.
   Cortland 15-11. Oneonta 14-12

Plattsburgh trips Morrisville 69-66 in tight outing in which host Cards never trail but never able to pull away. Lead by 67-66 when K. Tabb sinks free throw pair at 0:03. Three times-out follow and Mville misses 3-pointer at the horn. Game tied at 28 at half ...Pburgh nine point leader at one point but Mustangs always on comeback beat and often within five. Cards with 14 steals on 16 Mville turnovers, and led by F. Infante 21pts (10x18fg, 7rebs); K. Tabb 13pts (7x8ft, 4stls); J. Smith 12pts, 4stls. K. Sanders 14pts (6x11fg, 5reb, 5stl) paces Mustangs; K. Haskins 10pts (3x5fg, 5reb, 23')
   Pburgh 15-11, Mville 13-13
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Post by: jdex on February 28, 2025, 07:41:18 PM
Cortland kayoes defending conference champ Oswego 74-65 in Final Four Friday semi at New Paltz. RDragons challenge New Paltz in Saturday title game with automatic NCAA tourney shot at stake.
   Top seed host New Paltz advances with 74-72 rallying past fourth seed Plattsburgh.

Humiliated at Oswego by 34 points only a week earlier, Cortland found its shooting eyes to nearly lead from start to finish in playoff rematch. Lakers lone lead at 2-0 before falling into 39-20 halftime arrears. Dragons close the period on 12-0 run with Oswego scoreless over last 4:30.
  CSt in 53-30 command with 10:30 left. Oswego reloads and climbs within 64-61 at 2:23. At 2:02 Dragon K. Wilson connects in the paint and adds free throw. Lakers never nearer than six the rest of the way.
  Free throws huge difference. Corts 20x29 to OSt 5x6. Dragons with 34-22 board gap, 45%fg, 8x27 3s. Oswego 43%fg, 6x19 3s.
  K. Arcuri 18pts (6x9fg, 2x4 3s, 5reb, 3assts) for CSt whose A. Coston 14pts (6x6ft, 6rebs); J. Davis 14pts (6x11fg, 10rebs); G. Beaubrun 11pts (3x5fg, 3x5 3s, 7reb, 11"). For Lakers, G. McLane 21pts (10x11fg, 5pf, 31'); K. Lazo 13pts (4x7fg, 3x4 3s, 17').
  Cortland 16-11, Oswego 17-9

New Paltz notches deciding points from D. Smith with 0:19 left. His layup and accompanying free throw account for contest's final points. Pair tied at 41 entering closing 20 minutes. NP Hawks wipe out 40-31 deficit. Nip and tuck final period.
   AJ Knight 19pts, D. Smith 17pts (7reb), S. St.Lucia 15pts, M. Cummings 15pts (6reb) for NP. K. Tabb 21pts high for Cards, K. Welch 19pts (7x9fg, 4x4 3s, 8reb), F. Infante 11pts, J. Smith 10pts, I. Ezike 8rebs. Pburgh 10x20 3s
 
   
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Post by: jdex on March 01, 2025, 05:39:46 PM
Cortland wears the conference crown with bruising 61-52 conquering of top seed New Paltz at NP in Saturday matinee. Perhaps third seed RDragons best game-long performance of the season in earning NCAA tourney berth. Only one last-year player on the roster, and he saw no action in finale. K. Arcuri and J. Davis on all-tourney team and others deserving, particularly A. Coston and freshman K. Wilson. NP Hawks had swept regular season series.
  Point guard Wilson's 10 points set up Cortland well in the first half. Holds 34-25 edge at the break. Is 12 point margin prior to Hawk AJ Knight buzzer-beating triple. Corts grab 12 point spread starting the last period. NP within 39-36 on Knight bucket at 12:15, but Coston free throw and Arcui deuce and trey make it 45-36 at 9:30. Hawk in pretty sizeable chase mode the rest of the way. Arcuri three gives guests 55-44 lead at four minutes.
  Wilson hits clutch hoop at 1:24, but Hawk S. St.Lucia three brings NP within 57-52. Dragon breakaway sees G. Beaubrun feed G. Armbrewster layup at 0:23.
  Cortland 10x21 in 3s, 22x55fg, 7x10ft. NP 39 percent from the field, 7x22 3s, 3x4ft. Dragons 37-29 board advantage. Refs let 'em play for the most part. Each side with but two fouls in the first half. Not many more later.
  Arcuri with 16pts (5x12fg, 2x5 3s, 12 REBS, 38'; Wilson 14pts (6x11fg, 2x3 3s, 3assts, 24'; Davis 11pts (4x8fg, 3x4 3s, 12rebs, 2blks, 2stls);Coston 9pts, 2blks)
. For NP it's S. St.Lucia 17pts (7x16fg, 2x5 3s, 3stls); Knight 15pts (6x16fg, 3x10 3s); M. Cummings 10pts (4x7fg); D. Smith 11rebs, 6assts.
  While Dragon men win at New Paltz, Cortland women win fair sex title at Cortland!
  Cortland 17-11. New Paltz 19-8
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Post by: mrhoopfan on March 01, 2025, 09:39:03 PM
Only 150 people in attendance for SUNYAC championship at the HOST team's gym is wild
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Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 02, 2025, 03:37:27 PM
Quote from: mrhoopfan on March 01, 2025, 09:39:03 PMOnly 150 people in attendance for SUNYAC championship at the HOST team's gym is wild

I was watching the live stream.  Unless the other side was completely empty, 150 people is way too low.
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Post by: jdex on March 03, 2025, 01:17:37 PM
Cortland returns to NCAA tourney with Friday/Saturday first and second round play at York PA. RDragons draw 24-1 NYU at 4:50 Friday!! York (21-6) plays John Carroll OH (22-5)

NYU Violets of the University AA lost only to Emory GA in mid-January. Mutual foe with Cortland is Rochester. SCSt coach Mo Kearney an NYU ass't coach in '22-23 prior to taking Dragon reins. Kearney former Cortland player and ass't coach. Played on '15 conference title team, the last Cortland SUNYAC men's hoop champs.

Ithaca (18-9) vs. Stockton NJ (19-8) at Worcester Poly MA. Host WPI (24-3) vs. Husson ME (21-7)
Utica at Montclair NJ where Hamilton and Western NE also paired up
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Post by: jdex on March 05, 2025, 11:26:45 PM
Cortland juniors K. Arcuri and A. Coston repeat on All-SUNYAC first team while soph J. Davis on third team.

Oswego freshman D. Judd Player of the Year and first team selection. Senior D. Smith of New Paltz top defender and second team pick. Tap New Paltz top coaching staff.

   First Team: K. Arcuri (Cort jr), A. Coston (Cort jr), K. Sanders (Morrisville sr), AJ Knight (NP sr), D. Judd (Oswego fr)
   Second Team: D. Smith (NP sr), S. St.Lucia (NP gr), K. Long (Oneonta soph), K. Tabb (Plattsburgh sr), K. Welch (Plattsburgh jr)
   Third Team: J. Davis (Cort soph), B. Kulakowski (Fred sr), X. Allen (Oswego sr), A. Anderson (Oswego sr), F. Infante (Plattsburgh sr)
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Post by: jdex on March 07, 2025, 06:58:37 PM
Cortland men and women each score just 14 first half points in respective NCAA tourney openers on Friday ......RDragon men fall 72-36 to NYU at York PA while CSt women rally to defeat Endicott MA 48-46 at Bowdoin ME.

  Cortland men overwhelmed by arguably the nation's best D3 outfit. UVirginia grad student transfer T. How leads winning Violets with 16pts (7x8fg, 1x1 3s, 11reb, 26') -- his season's average, California grad student transfer B. Susko 16pts (6x12fg, 4x7 3s, 6reb). Bigger NYU badly handles Corts inside. A. Coston 12 pts and J. Wommack 9pts (4x8fg, 16'). Wommack the lone departing player. Dragons minus J. Davis. Shoot just 6x25fg in first half, trailing 40-14.
   Cortland 17-12, NYU 25-1

   Cortland women bounce back from 22-14 first half hole. Finally take 37-36 lead on K. Campbell score at 3:55 left. Campbell driving layup at 0:22 makes it 45-41 and B. Tillotson two FTs at 0:08 hike margin to 48-43. Cortland plays Saturday night.
   Corts 25-3, Endicott 22-6
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Post by: jdex on March 20, 2025, 04:50:44 PM
Cortland juniors Kendall Arcuri and Aaaon Coston land more honorss ....Arcuri makes D3 media All-Region 3 first team and coaches (ABCA) All-District 3 second team along with Coston.

RDragons NCAA tourney conqueror NYU in tonight's Final Four semis in Fort Wayne IN. Top ranked Violets (28-1) vs. St. Louis MO's Washington U. (23-6) in match of UAA foes after Trinity CT (28-3) vs. Wesleyan CT (30-1) in duel of NESCAC affiliates.
   Title game Saturday
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